--- Log opened ma elo 01 00:00:05 2022 --- Day changed ma elo 01 2022 2022-08-01T00:00:05 < karlp> also ~any/many of the actually official st nucleo boards, 2022-08-01T00:00:20 < qyx> aren't there some smaller ones today? 2022-08-01T00:00:28 < PaulFertser> srk: what for? 2022-08-01T00:00:33 < qyx> stlinkv3-mod can be used too 2022-08-01T00:00:46 < qyx> it costs about 13e and has F7 2022-08-01T00:01:04 < srk> PaulFertser: rambo and 3d printer :) was fighting with marlin and it looks like I'm gonna ditch it completely in favor of klipper 2022-08-01T00:01:16 < PaulFertser> srk: understandable 2022-08-01T00:01:44 < PaulFertser> srk: so not just avr but that was also arduino code ;) 2022-08-01T00:01:53 < srk> yes. and marlin suffers from feature creep 2022-08-01T00:02:04 < srk> don't even mention arduino pins :/ 2022-08-01T00:02:09 < srk> what a joke 2022-08-01T00:02:24 < begriffs> setting ram to 10k made my program work 2022-08-01T00:02:51 < PaulFertser> A joke is that they map them to real pins run-time. For every "digitalWrite". 2022-08-01T00:02:56 < begriffs> thank you so much for the help, I would have been messing with that forever 2022-08-01T00:02:58 < srk> :D:D 2022-08-01T00:03:14 < srk> PaulFertser: like it doesn't resemble arduino code anymore but it's hell of a #define configuration madness 2022-08-01T00:03:31 < karlp> qyx: nucleo32 boards are pretty small IMO 2022-08-01T00:03:53 < srk> they probably hit all of the arduino limits way back and all that's left is the great pin numbering 2022-08-01T00:03:53 < karlp> begriffs: you're welcome :) 2022-08-01T00:03:54 < qyx> karlp: yeah those was what I meant 2022-08-01T00:04:22 < qyx> were 2022-08-01T00:06:58 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-01T00:08:43 < begriffs> rajkosto: Is this a legit F401 board you mentioned? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XBWGF9M Should I be looking for certain manufacturers, or use a certain site to buy boards? 2022-08-01T00:09:28 < rajkosto> they all seem to have the same design 2022-08-01T00:09:31 < rajkosto> none of them are "legit" 2022-08-01T00:10:35 < rajkosto> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001792282319.html most are like this 2022-08-01T00:11:14 < begriffs> Thanks 2022-08-01T00:11:39 < rajkosto> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001621784672.html this seller has the bluepills in the same listing, however note that its likely you will get a clone chip on bluepills nowadays 2022-08-01T00:12:16 < begriffs> Wow, now that I got past the original failure, I tried compiling my tiny FreeRTOS example, and the linker complained the BSS won't even fit in ram. Yeah this board sucks 2022-08-01T00:12:32 < rajkosto> you arent supposed to use a RTOS on a f103 2022-08-01T00:12:51 < rajkosto> begriffs, the difference between the f401 and f411 is the memory sizes, maybe you want the f411 then 2022-08-01T00:14:35 < karlp> begriffs: is there any reason you don't want to just use an st nucleo board? at least for early steps, paying 10 currencies and getting a known quanityt, with a debugger ,vs paying 3 currencies and having no fucking clue what you might get seems a fairly shitty tradeoff... 2022-08-01T00:18:58 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T00:22:40 < begriffs> Fair, although I have a Segger J-Link clone that is working fine for me with OpenOCD. 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you swear that you're not using any swear words? 2022-08-01T19:54:15 < jpa-> never 2022-08-01T19:58:28 < mawk> not even when you hurt yourself? 2022-08-01T19:59:34 < jpa-> when a finn gets hurt, they immediately get back up and make sure no-one saw anything 2022-08-01T19:59:59 < mawk> lol 2022-08-01T20:01:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T20:01:13 < zyp> oh, that's like the time I was looking too hard at my phone while walking and walked straight into a bench 2022-08-01T20:01:17 -!- lagash [lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-01T20:01:26 < englishman> a canadian would have apologized to the bench 2022-08-01T20:01:58 < zyp> my reflex reaction was jumping on top of the bench 2022-08-01T20:02:06 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T20:02:45 < zyp> felt pretty silly, but I just proceeded to jump off the bench on the other side and continue walking 2022-08-01T20:02:59 -!- 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What happened after that mawk? 2022-08-01T21:46:35 -!- drfff [~k\o\w@72.53.234.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-01T21:53:55 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-01T22:05:27 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-01T22:11:12 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T22:50:10 < invzim> any usb pd 3 expeeerts around? 2022-08-01T22:50:42 < invzim> playing with AP33771 sink controller + dc load, seems to work fine unless I have a load present when I connect things up 2022-08-01T22:50:52 < invzim> is there supposed to be a delay after negotiation? 2022-08-01T22:53:45 < zyp> load present how? are you loading it already when vbus is still outputting 5V during negotiation? 2022-08-01T22:55:10 < invzim> ikea askstorm charger -> AP33771 eval board -> DC load 2022-08-01T22:56:04 < invzim> if the load is enabled, when I connect the charger, it doesn't really work - if I connect, let it do it's thing, then enable load it works 2022-08-01T22:56:26 < invzim> (zero experience with PD, have not read the spec..) 2022-08-01T22:58:21 < invzim> the eval board has mosfets that blocks load/output until neg is clear/ok, but maybe it's a little quick 2022-08-01T23:13:35 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T23:13:35 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-01T23:15:09 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-01T23:23:33 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T23:45:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-01T23:46:53 < upgrdman> math pros: what's the correct way to say "the value must be equal to someInteger/someOtherInteger" ... for example, if someInteger == 100, then the value must be 50 or 33.3 or 25 or 20 or ... 2022-08-01T23:47:04 < upgrdman> is that "fractional n" ? 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DMA does that when it is triggered. 2022-08-02T10:24:02 < ds2> The trigger can come from a timer (periodic), external or some other event 2022-08-02T10:27:54 < drzacek> so trigger is something else than setting dma up 2022-08-02T10:29:17 < drzacek> excuse my poor ignorant lack of proper words, I haven't used DMA much yet, the way I learned about it, I need to "set it up", aka CPU needs to configure DMA, source, destination and start it, and from then dma takes over and copies stuff from A to B, and CPU can go on with its life 2022-08-02T10:29:40 < ds2> the trigger source is specified by the DMA setup 2022-08-02T10:29:45 < drzacek> and that "trigger" here, that is something else - where DMA is already configured, but only needs minimal interaction 2022-08-02T10:29:51 < drzacek> ah 2022-08-02T10:30:01 < drzacek> then that makes sense 2022-08-02T10:30:02 < ds2> DMA is flexible, it is a copy on demand engine 2022-08-02T10:30:12 < ds2> the "demand" is the trigger 2022-08-02T10:31:35 < ds2> on other chips like the nRF5x, the DMA engine is much lower power then the CPU so you can have a "cpu free" LED blinker :D 2022-08-02T10:36:57 < drzacek> nordic? 2022-08-02T10:37:34 < ds2> yeah 2022-08-02T11:13:23 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T11:13:23 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-02T11:14:59 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-02T14:32:24 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T14:50:29 -!- milkylainen [~christian@static-212-247-174-226.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T15:01:04 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T15:01:08 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-02T15:10:33 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-02T15:25:28 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T15:25:32 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-02T16:08:13 -!- [_] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T16:32:59 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T16:51:30 -!- [_] is now known as [itchyjunk] 2022-08-02T16:59:30 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T17:01:30 < drzacek> so after reading and watching some tutorials and stuff. I see that there is a way to trigger the configured dma by request, but I dont see a way to do it with HAL driver. 2022-08-02T17:05:31 < jpa-> why use hal driver? 2022-08-02T17:06:30 < bitmask> my c++ template skills are lacking 2022-08-02T17:07:17 < bitmask> why am i writing my own ecs library 2022-08-02T17:07:28 < bitmask> im basically doing what EnTT already does but worse :P 2022-08-02T17:07:48 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-02T17:07:48 < bitmask> his template-fu is impressive 2022-08-02T17:08:02 < drzacek> jpa-, I guess it is easier? the cubemx configurator is great, and if stuff works then why not? 2022-08-02T17:08:11 < drzacek> problem is, not everything always works, and some stuff is simply not there 2022-08-02T17:08:53 < bitmask> i never really got into hal although i dont really see a problem with it i guess. the documentation is just severely lacking so its hard to figure out how to do stuffs 2022-08-02T17:09:21 < bitmask> i do like std periph though 2022-08-02T17:22:15 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T17:23:51 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T17:42:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-02T17:46:27 < jpa-> drzacek: well, if you like it that way, do what you can with it and the rest without? 2022-08-02T17:50:28 < drzacek> jpa-, that's the plan 2022-08-02T18:01:31 < catphish> box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjS0VqX6GhE box in motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U7oU0tP6Qg 2022-08-02T18:05:19 < jpa-> where are the flames? 2022-08-02T18:06:19 < qyx> huh sitting on the right 2022-08-02T18:10:01 < catphish> qyx: where else would you sit?! 2022-08-02T18:10:07 < catphish> in the passenger seat? 2022-08-02T18:10:24 < catphish> should i make a version flipped for non-british audiences? 2022-08-02T18:10:52 < qyx> :> 2022-08-02T18:11:08 < qyx> the video/audio is a bit out of sync for some reason 2022-08-02T18:11:24 < qyx> but otherwise, great 2022-08-02T18:12:05 < catphish> weird, i don't see it 2022-08-02T18:13:56 < qyx> my youtubes probably 2022-08-02T18:14:28 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-02T18:52:49 < srk> manual window openers :D love it 2022-08-02T19:04:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T19:07:36 < PaulFertser> catphish: is it more enjoyable to drive now than it was pre-conversion? 2022-08-02T19:10:39 < catphish> PaulFertser: probably not 2022-08-02T19:11:15 < catphish> actually the gearbox of that car was broken, which made it a pain to drive, so for that sole reason, yes 2022-08-02T19:11:53 < PaulFertser> Now I wonder what was broken in the gearbox in a way that it was still driveable? 2022-08-02T19:12:01 < PaulFertser> But that's a fair point indeed :) 2022-08-02T19:12:24 < catphish> i don't know much about gearboxes, but it was extremely hard to get into 2nd gear 2022-08-02T19:12:46 < PaulFertser> Switching from the first or from the third? 2022-08-02T19:13:08 < catphish> well i remember it being a problem from first, but probably both 2022-08-02T19:15:08 < PaulFertser> That's kinda weird. Upshifting if you do it at the right time doesn't depend on synchro meshes. 2022-08-02T19:15:53 < PaulFertser> Such a nice looking car, and apparently a rather successful conversion project. Congrats man, that is really cool! 2022-08-02T19:17:01 < PaulFertser> It's a shame the road is so tight and the corners are so obscured by the trees that you can't really push it ;) 2022-08-02T19:18:23 < PaulFertser> I thought Tesla was much heavier and so kind of expected your car to beat it on 0--100 km/h. 2022-08-02T19:22:16 < PaulFertser> Talking about upshifting, did it have a blinker? 2022-08-02T19:44:14 < catphish> a blinker? 2022-08-02T19:45:41 < catphish> and i'm not sure this was a syncro problem or not, if it was i'd expect it to drop into gear quite easily on upshift as the revs fall, but that wasn't the case 2022-08-02T19:46:34 < catphish> the original tesla has 2 of these motors and is almost exactly twice the weight, so i'd expect the same acceleration as the tesla (about 5.3 seconds) 2022-08-02T19:48:56 < catphish> i only get about 7 seconds, primarily because the motor has a input power of 220kW, but my batteries only have a peak output power of 120kW, so i'm limiting the peak power quite a bit 2022-08-02T19:49:27 < catphish> that combined with that fact that my inverter / motor setup probably isn't running nearly as efficiently as tesla's 2022-08-02T19:49:59 < catphish> i use a 17khz switching compared to tesla's 10khz, which gives me less current before the inverter overheats 2022-08-02T19:51:31 < catphish> i've tuned it as much as i can, and i'm able to squeeze acceleration of about 6.4 seconds when the battery is fully charged, but trying not to push my luck with reliability 2022-08-02T19:54:29 < PaulFertser> catphish: sport bikes have a special bright white lamp on the dash which starts to blink near the red zone. 2022-08-02T19:55:10 < PaulFertser> I see, that explains it, thanks! 2022-08-02T20:02:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T20:07:01 < englishman> congrats catphish ! it actually works! 2022-08-02T20:27:32 < catphish> englishman: it does work :D 2022-08-02T20:28:21 < catphish> PaulFertser: i think it might have one of those lights actually, i'm not sure 2022-08-02T20:28:44 < catphish> PaulFertser: i've always thought they were a bit silly, like who can't see the massive rev counter dial 2022-08-02T20:30:12 < PaulFertser> catphish: I can't tell first-hand but I guess it's meant to be nicely visible with peripheral vision while you're concentrated on the road ahead. 2022-08-02T20:32:04 < catphish> PaulFertser: that makes sense, it's very rare that i forget to shift, but not unheard of when i'm overtaking and focusing on that 2022-08-02T20:46:13 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-155-146.cgn.sunrise.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T20:57:14 < englishman> gauges typically aren't looked at while racing 2022-08-02T20:57:34 < englishman> you may see on classic cars they are oriented so the needle is straight up when the reading is 'good' 2022-08-02T20:57:38 < englishman> so the dash can be quickly scanned 2022-08-02T20:58:04 < englishman> shift lights let you know your approx 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catphish> englishman: i'd think with racing most people would learn to do it by ear 2022-08-02T22:55:50 < catphish> but i guess a lamp is super accurate 2022-08-02T22:57:20 < zyp> catphish, cool stuff 2022-08-02T22:57:55 < zyp> I need to go visit you some time :) 2022-08-02T23:03:41 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T23:08:19 < catphish> zyp: sure! 2022-08-02T23:08:45 < catphish> i need to visit there tooo 2022-08-02T23:12:31 < Steffanx> So time for the ultimate test of your EV ;) 2022-08-02T23:12:43 < Steffanx> A drive to Norway (and boat trip) 2022-08-02T23:14:14 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-02T23:17:10 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T23:29:25 -!- [_] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-02T23:31:50 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-02T23:48:38 < bitmask> nice, this hard drive got copper sulfate and sulfuric acid on it and it still works --- Day changed ke elo 03 2022 2022-08-03T00:04:38 < bitmask> ugh, About 16 hours to transfer 1.05TB 2022-08-03T00:07:57 < bitmask> now "More than 1 day" 2022-08-03T00:08:14 < bitmask> hopefully the files get bigger 2022-08-03T00:31:18 -!- karlp [karlp@palmtreev6.beeroclock.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-03T00:31:49 -!- englishman [englishman@user/englishman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-03T00:31:55 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-03T00:36:57 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T00:37:55 < Mangy_Dog> https://imgur.com/gallery/TXE55Bo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYeBKm4DAI its done :D 2022-08-03T01:21:28 -!- [_] is now known as [itchyjunk] 2022-08-03T01:28:19 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T01:37:12 -!- karlp [karlp@palmtreev6.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T01:38:33 -!- englishman 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the pc, and let's the user draw line charts, gauges, etc. 2022-08-03T01:55:14 < Mangy_Dog> ooohhhhhh 2022-08-03T01:55:17 < Mangy_Dog> thats very cool 2022-08-03T01:55:24 < Mangy_Dog> though i fear my display setup wont suport that much data 2022-08-03T01:55:32 < Mangy_Dog> it has a very limited draw command count 2022-08-03T01:56:23 < upgrdman> ya i meant instead of custom hardware like you did. i can do it all in software 2022-08-03T01:56:46 < upgrdman> i should just add support for reading the pc's performance counters, etc. 2022-08-03T01:57:00 < Mangy_Dog> youd be better off using a pi and one of these displays sort of thing 2022-08-03T01:58:10 < Mangy_Dog> but you got a nice ui setup too 2022-08-03T02:26:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-03T03:14:12 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-03T04:22:28 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 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Just randomly 2022-08-03T15:26:16 < drzacek> someone was editing them and put in draft mode, forgot to publish? 2022-08-03T15:29:44 < milkylainen> something like that, yes. 2022-08-03T15:29:56 < milkylainen> I suspect the introduction of stm32mp13 editing. 2022-08-03T15:33:01 < milkylainen> another question. Is the stm provided tf-a package capable of signing the fsbl package? Or are those tools just available through the cube programmer? 2022-08-03T16:02:52 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 2022-08-03T16:03:51 < PaulFertser> milkylainen: I suggest you notify borneoa on #openocd , he can pull the right strings. 2022-08-03T16:05:11 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T16:05:56 < milkylainen> PaulFertser: Regarding the wiki I presume? 2022-08-03T16:07:59 < milkylainen> PaulFertser: Done. Gotta run. Tnx. 2022-08-03T16:08:02 < PaulFertser> milkylainen: both 2022-08-03T16:17:53 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-03T16:22:54 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T16:22:54 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-03T16:25:43 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-03T16:25:49 < drzacek> am sorry for another noob question, but - how do I use ADC with DMA to get values from multiple pins? I have 2 potentiometers on two ADC pins, and want to read the analog value on them, and additionally from the internal temp sensor 2022-08-03T16:26:14 < drzacek> I watched 20 tutorials, each of them does it differently, none of which works for me 2022-08-03T16:27:16 < drzacek> when I do Hal_adc_Pollforconversion with single adc pin active, then it works. as soon as I add another, it stops - apparently consequent polling don't get value from new pin as I hoped, but all places in the internets tell me to use dma for that 2022-08-03T16:29:10 < drzacek> https://imgur.com/a/ycv1Sev my cubemx config 2022-08-03T16:31:33 < jpa-> for occassional reading of results, injected group is easiest because it has separate registers for the results 2022-08-03T16:32:31 < jpa-> if you want polling conversion, you can just set the channel before you convert, start conversion, wait, read output 2022-08-03T16:33:09 < jpa-> DMA makes sense if you want to read samples as regular interval and get each one, but a potentiometer doesn't sound like input that you would do that for 2022-08-03T16:39:50 < drzacek> potentiometers are just to simulate the value, but no, I have no requirements for when and how oft or how fast I get the data 2022-08-03T16:40:14 < drzacek> is meant to monitor temp (duh), and battery level etc 2022-08-03T16:40:32 < drzacek> okay, gonna read bout the injected group then 2022-08-03T16:46:20 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T16:46:20 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-03T17:14:16 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T17:22:38 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-03T17:27:13 < drzacek> okay I'm going crazy here. I was wondering why it didn't worked for me like with the examples, and created new project and redid everything again and wohoo, it works. super easy super simple 2022-08-03T17:27:32 < drzacek> so I must have something in my project that is borking ADC somehow 2022-08-03T17:27:40 < drzacek> or dma, or both 2022-08-03T17:27:59 < jpa-> sounds like usual cube experience ;) 2022-08-03T17:28:10 < drzacek> well I had that few times already 2022-08-03T17:28:23 < drzacek> it always turned out to be some dumfuck error made by me 2022-08-03T17:28:31 < drzacek> so I'm not gonna hate on cube just yet 2022-08-03T17:43:54 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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So cant be an extinguisher 2022-08-03T21:37:05 < mawk> it was too hot today 2022-08-03T21:37:09 < mawk> 35°C here 2022-08-03T21:38:56 < catphish> Steffanx: what did i what? 2022-08-03T21:41:42 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-75.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-03T21:51:31 < Steffanx> Run 2022-08-03T21:52:18 < Steffanx> Lol. My brain has meltdown. Like mawk's brain. 2022-08-03T21:54:10 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T21:54:14 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-03T21:56:27 < zyp> karlp, looks like one of those shitty tire patch sprays 2022-08-03T21:58:32 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T22:11:15 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-03T22:13:09 < Steffanx> I'm sure it is. Since further in the video you can read the text on it 2022-08-03T22:16:15 < zyp> I don't think it's a good idea to spray that on a fire 2022-08-03T22:25:43 < englishman> id probably take off the license plate and run away 2022-08-03T22:26:16 < englishman> i would not want to be found near a flaming experimental vehicle on a public roadway 2022-08-03T22:30:32 < catphish> ah yes, run. 2022-08-03T22:34:57 < PaulFertser> I thought it's street-legal? 2022-08-03T22:35:08 < PaulFertser> So not too experimental. 2022-08-03T22:35:15 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T22:35:24 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-03T22:42:08 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T22:45:34 < Steffanx> So today i learned windows only supports 1 ble adapter at once and will give some cryptic error in the device manager on the device you connected last. And when you (re)boot with both attached, then yeah.. its 1 of the 2 that gets used. 2022-08-03T22:46:47 < PaulFertser> lol 2022-08-03T22:47:09 < PaulFertser> So pro 2022-08-03T22:47:11 < PaulFertser> I miss dongs 2022-08-03T22:48:01 < Steffanx> He's pretty alive in the telegram 2022-08-03T22:52:04 < PaulFertser> Still innovating hard? 2022-08-03T22:52:19 < PaulFertser> With the china girl? 2022-08-03T22:54:12 < Steffanx> Yeah China girl is still hot 2022-08-03T22:54:21 < Steffanx> Still complaining about open sores 2022-08-03T22:58:40 < milkylainen> Hmm. What does the stm32mp1x actually hash in the fsbl? 2022-08-03T22:58:50 < milkylainen> Images are utterly confusing. 2022-08-03T23:00:19 < PaulFertser> milkylainen: you better ask borneoa about that one too :) 2022-08-03T23:00:21 < milkylainen> Wiki image indicates that the hash encompasses data + public key (inside the header). But the signature is stored inside the header, so that can't be properly hashed? Or is like "hash to some offset we won't tell you"? 2022-08-03T23:00:32 < catphish> PaulFertser: it's both 2022-08-03T23:00:45 < milkylainen> PaulFertser :) 2022-08-03T23:01:06 < catphish> it's street legal, but that certainly doesn't mean it can't catch fire 2022-08-03T23:01:30 < milkylainen> It's going to get a lot of ot stm32 talk in openocd. :) 2022-08-03T23:01:37 < PaulFertser> catphish: but is it officially allowed to go on the streets like that? Did you have to somehow certify your new brake boosting system etc? 2022-08-03T23:02:26 < PaulFertser> milkylainen: he'll complain if you get too annoying ;) 2022-08-03T23:04:10 < milkylainen> PaulFertser: heh. I'm gonna get kicked. Quite a few things that I think are unclear when doing stm32mp1x secure boot stuff. 2022-08-03T23:08:04 < PaulFertser> milkylainen: secure boot as in guarantee the user the device is running the firmware the user wants there or secure boot in the sense "screw you end-user, you'll be running on your hardware what _I_ want, or nothing"? 2022-08-03T23:12:59 < catphish> PaulFertser: yes it's allowed, there's no certification system here for replacing a component like that 2022-08-03T23:13:35 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-03T23:13:35 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-03T23:13:38 < catphish> PaulFertser: instead, we have annual tests for all cars that test the functionality of all such systems, a test that my car passed last week 2022-08-03T23:14:30 < PaulFertser> catphish: that's interesting, so any internal mod is legit if it can pass the regular test. Guess you lads do not abuse the system or it would have been banned by now. 2022-08-03T23:15:10 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-03T23:16:05 < catphish> PaulFertser: yep, you basically only have to re-certify the car if you either 1) change the chassis or 2) change multiple of the other major compnents (axles, steering, powertrain, suspension) 2022-08-03T23:16:45 < catphish> other than that, our system largely depends on insurance companies to decide what's allowed on the road by what risks they're willing to insure 2022-08-03T23:17:18 < catphish> getting insurance for such DIY rebuilds is not easy 2022-08-03T23:17:35 < PaulFertser> Do they require any blueprints from you? 2022-08-03T23:17:48 < catphish> no, just a general description 2022-08-03T23:18:06 < PaulFertser> And twice the money? 2022-08-03T23:18:24 < catphish> everything is pretty lenient here, but yes, about 2.5x the cost of an unmodified car for insurance 2022-08-03T23:19:25 < PaulFertser> Interesting, thanks for sharing. 2022-08-03T23:28:59 < karlp> catphish: uk is "buy an chassis that has a vin, make any mods you like as long as it passes MOT: fine." but "build your own chassis without a vin, pass same tests: not fine" right? 2022-08-03T23:31:03 < Steffanx> And how much the usual insurance is catphish ? 2022-08-03T23:32:05 < Steffanx> Or does it depends on many factors (like in dutchland, years of experience, years insured without damage and what not) 2022-08-03T23:32:34 < catphish> karlp: yes precisely, as long as you have a chassis with a valid registration and (technically) with original steering and suspention, anything goes, but if you build a chassis, you need an approval 2022-08-03T23:33:27 < catphish> Steffanx: insurance varies hugely with age / experience, for adults with long experience of safe driving, about £250 per year per (normal) car 2022-08-03T23:33:53 < catphish> so yeah, like any insurance, it's based on all the risk factors they can think of 2022-08-03T23:34:03 < catphish> and the crime rate where you keep the car 2022-08-03T23:35:05 < Steffanx> Surprisingly cheap though 2022-08-03T23:37:15 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-03T23:50:15 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-03T23:50:42 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-113-126.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed to elo 04 2022 2022-08-04T00:31:32 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T00:31:36 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-04T01:14:09 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T01:14:15 < Laurence_b> hyperboss isnt happy 2022-08-04T01:14:21 < Laurence_b> I burnt his pcb... 2022-08-04T01:16:30 < Laurence_b> it was a giant invertor controller with huge thick copper pours, but also large smd board to board connectors with tiny pins 2022-08-04T01:16:46 < Laurence_b> I tried to reflow it with a propane torch 2022-08-04T01:17:32 < mawk> lol 2022-08-04T01:17:50 < mawk> are you sure that was the proper reflow procedure Laurence_b ? 2022-08-04T01:18:34 < Laurence_b> we had tried every other bit of kit first 2022-08-04T01:18:45 < Laurence_b> and he turned down my suggestion of a portable BBQ 2022-08-04T01:18:55 < mawk> you need to make the boss sign off first before doing that 2022-08-04T01:18:59 < mawk> lol 2022-08-04T01:19:09 < mawk> maybe a portable bbq would have worked yeah 2022-08-04T01:19:17 < mawk> a big pan full of sand 2022-08-04T01:19:24 < mawk> a paella pan 2022-08-04T01:19:40 < mawk> https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/huge-paella-pan-plate-seafood-rice-traditional-spanish-food-huge-paella-pan-plate-seafood-rice-traditional-124309088.jpg 2022-08-04T01:19:42 < mawk> like this Laurence_b 2022-08-04T01:24:10 < Laurence_b> I think we are going to need one of the phase change reflow systems, this board is nasty 2022-08-04T01:34:48 < karlp> let me know how you go with it, I came close to buying one, decided to just pay for assembly a few times instead. 2022-08-04T01:44:23 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-113-126.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-04T01:50:02 < BrainDamage> you need to preheat the board 2022-08-04T01:50:22 < BrainDamage> this way there's not much differential heating 2022-08-04T01:54:27 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-04T02:08:10 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-04T02:25:27 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-04T02:28:26 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T02:49:00 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T02:49:14 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-04T03:00:02 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-04T03:39:16 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-04T03:43:00 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T04:08:56 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-113-126.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T04:20:17 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-04T04:54:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-04T05:18:17 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-04T05:49:37 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-113-126.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-04T06:12:29 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@c-73-96-109-206.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T06:18:23 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-04T07:11:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T07:42:53 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-04T07:43:30 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T08:52:22 < Steffanx> What's the fun of using proper tools when you can use a propane orch? 2022-08-04T08:52:31 < Steffanx> Torch 2022-08-04T09:02:54 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-04T09:13:02 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T09:29:28 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T10:39:37 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-04T10:40:43 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T10:41:17 -!- ds2 [~ds2@162-194-129-85.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-04T10:41:30 -!- ds2 [~ds2@162-194-129-85.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T11:13:43 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-04T11:14:39 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T11:18:54 < drzacek> hello there. so I got my ADC values working, no dma involved this time. It looks like it is working 2022-08-04T11:19:17 < drzacek> https://paste.debian.net/1249286/ my code how I read it in main(), https://paste.debian.net/1249288/ how I init adc and how I switch channels 2022-08-04T11:20:16 < drzacek> https://i.imgur.com/plzuXKC.png read values - I have 2 potentiometers on first two pins, third is connected to GND, and fourth is the internal temp sensor. 2022-08-04T11:21:08 < drzacek> no matter what I do, the internal temp sensor is not affected - put strong fan over the chip, remove the fan, hold my thumb on it - nothing beside the flicker on last digit, which I see anyways when doing nothing 2022-08-04T11:21:17 < drzacek> does that temp sensor need some special treating? 2022-08-04T11:23:44 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T11:25:17 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-04T11:31:15 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-04T11:40:26 < drzacek> okay, found the info in datasheet, need to sample for at least 5us. divided the clock by 2 and added a whole lot of samples for temp. now it reacts somehow. now I just need to calculate the value from it 2022-08-04T11:46:13 < jpa-> IIRC some people have reported that using longer than the datasheet specified minimum sampling times for internal temperature sensor improves accuracy 2022-08-04T11:50:56 < drzacek> jpa-, at now I am happy that it reports some value at all, before that it was just some random number that didn't changed 2022-08-04T11:51:47 < drzacek> once I get celcius from it and confirm with external sensors, I can think on improving it, but truth told - do I really need super high accuracy on this thing? It's more "is this thing freezing, burning, or is it fine"? thing :D 2022-08-04T12:54:28 < qyx> did you enable it properly? 2022-08-04T12:55:55 < drzacek> define properly? 2022-08-04T12:57:08 < qyx> depending on the family, there are a bit different requirements 2022-08-04T12:57:42 < qyx> oh I haven't seen the code yet 2022-08-04T13:00:54 < qyx> and it is cube, so idk 2022-08-04T13:01:02 < drzacek> qyx, I think I got it working. even put a lighter fire near it for a second and the value went high :D 2022-08-04T13:07:04 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T14:06:37 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@c-73-96-109-206.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-04T14:29:22 < drzacek> I'm looking at the rm doc, and it tells me to calculate the value like this https://imgur.com/a/ZLRBZVR 2022-08-04T14:31:28 < drzacek> but when I try to do calculate it, then I end up with value of ~~ -11C https://paste.debian.net/1249307/ 2022-08-04T14:32:29 < drzacek> when I use the LL macro, then I get 15-16C 2022-08-04T14:32:53 < drzacek> ambient temp here is 31C, and I assume the MCU would be at least few degrees hotter 2022-08-04T14:36:47 < jpa-> how does the calculation in LL macro differ? 2022-08-04T14:39:21 < jpa-> also, what is the actual values you read from ADC and the calibration values you use? 2022-08-04T14:39:53 < jpa-> and is your VDDA 3.0V or something else 2022-08-04T14:41:02 < drzacek> raw ADC value is around 890-900 2022-08-04T14:42:05 < jpa-> a bit low, longer sampling time could be worth a try 2022-08-04T14:42:53 < drzacek> and vref - I assume 3.3V? it's a nucleo board 2022-08-04T14:43:11 < drzacek> https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/nucleo-l452re-p.html#documentation 2022-08-04T14:45:38 < drzacek> I went another clock divire further (4 instead of 2), and switched from 240-something to max number of samples for temp (over 600?), get similar values 2022-08-04T14:46:30 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurence_@cust226-dsl93-89-135.idnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T14:49:50 < drzacek> the "calibrated" value at 30C is 1034 2022-08-04T14:49:55 < drzacek> unless I'm reading them wrong 2022-08-04T14:50:27 < invzim> meh, the stm32cubeprogrammer doesn't support .dfu files and installs some drivers that breks the dfuse util 2022-08-04T14:51:07 < drzacek> but the 130C value is 1378, so basically <400 for 100C span 2022-08-04T14:51:47 < drzacek> I thought it would have around 0 at -40C and around 4095 at 125C 2022-08-04T14:51:51 < Laurence_b> dfuse is just weird 2022-08-04T14:52:12 < Laurence_b> dfutil on lunix does seem to work reliably, but stm32 dfu seems slightly non standard 2022-08-04T14:53:27 < jpa-> drzacek: yeah, 1034 is reasonable value for 30°C at 3.0V supply, if you are using 3.3V Vref, it would be 940 2022-08-04T14:54:02 < drzacek> well the IR gun shows 35C on the surface of the stm32 2022-08-04T15:01:19 < drzacek> so the read ADC value should be higher than that. meanwhile it sits at 890 2022-08-04T15:09:55 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T15:09:59 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-04T15:30:40 < drzacek> I used the measured temp and adc value and used it as my CAL1 data, converted the CAL2 to 3.3V range and, well, it shows 35.5, so kinda what I wanted 2022-08-04T15:30:57 < drzacek> might have to cool it down/heat it up to check if it holds true 2022-08-04T16:08:12 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:b590:72e7:9da4:e2da] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-04T16:16:12 < tct> > Moscow has said a Norwegian consul could no longer stay in Russia after she was filmed declaring “I hate Russians” during an angry outburst at a hotel reception. 2022-08-04T16:16:14 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T16:16:14 < tct> gj zyp 2022-08-04T16:17:00 < zyp> yw 2022-08-04T16:22:27 -!- kraiskil 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tuned algorithm to compute it 2022-08-04T16:26:39 < mawk> where's my Turing prize 2022-08-04T16:30:52 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurence_@cust226-dsl93-89-135.idnet.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-04T16:41:05 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-104.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-04T17:03:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-04T17:10:15 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T17:10:21 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-04T17:15:21 -!- Luggi09498284764 [~lux@ip5b426bc8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T17:35:53 -!- dreamcat4 [uid157427@id-157427.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T17:53:28 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-04T18:00:14 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-04T18:12:39 -!- 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ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-04T23:49:53 -!- kaki [~kaki@87-93-216-109.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-04T23:56:26 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Day changed pe elo 05 2022 2022-08-05T00:06:33 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T00:06:47 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T01:00:37 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-05T01:25:26 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-05T01:27:20 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T01:49:07 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T01:49:49 < catphish> kaki: you might be interested in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjS0VqX6GhE 2022-08-05T01:50:04 < catphish> kaki: and maybe also interested in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U7oU0tP6Qg 2022-08-05T01:50:10 < kaki> correct 2022-08-05T02:04:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-05T02:07:19 < kaki> what next? 2022-08-05T02:15:04 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T02:15:04 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T02:46:34 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T02:46:37 < Laurence_b> https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/products/detail/CAB450M12XM3/1697-CAB450M12XM3-ND/10248983?curr=usd&utm_campaign=buynow&utm_medium=aggregator&utm_source=octopart 2022-08-05T02:46:43 < Laurence_b> so expensive :( 2022-08-05T02:50:45 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-05T02:58:46 < karlp> good chatz 2022-08-05T03:00:30 < karlp> look at my super modern javascript, added touch/drag pointer shit support after, whatever many years... https://github.com/karlp/make_album/commit/571f31e98ac477c75bcba56fd1d1f311a989c271 2022-08-05T03:00:34 < karlp> very successful evening... 2022-08-05T03:01:42 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-05T03:07:31 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@c-73-96-109-206.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T03:21:11 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T03:41:03 -!- fluiD [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-05T03:46:01 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-05T04:02:17 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-05T04:07:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-05T04:14:38 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-05T04:17:08 -!- kaki [~kaki@87-93-216-109.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-05T04:19:02 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T04:37:27 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T05:26:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T06:21:34 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-05T06:27:57 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-05T06:41:36 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-05T06:58:47 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-05T07:00:02 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T07:01:05 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T07:20:44 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T08:03:19 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-05T08:09:16 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-05T08:49:48 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-111-151.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T09:14:22 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-111-151.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-05T09:23:36 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-05T09:34:47 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-111-151.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T09:37:25 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T09:39:27 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178-221-111-151.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-05T09:49:49 < drzacek> hello there 2022-08-05T09:51:19 < drzacek> I am considering putting the nucleo board on the preheat station and heat it up to, say, around 100C? all while powered up and runnning, to read the temp sensor ADC value at higher temp (can measure the mcu surface temp with IR gun), to have proper CAL2 value 2022-08-05T09:51:57 < drzacek> but I think this might damage the electronics, no? I know that during soldering it can be heated up to even higher temps, but during run I can only go to 80C? or something? 2022-08-05T09:59:53 < zyp> depends on the specs on your parts 2022-08-05T10:20:10 < jpa-> if you really need that accurate thermal readings, you are better off with external sensor 2022-08-05T10:24:10 < drzacek> guess you're right 2022-08-05T10:24:26 < drzacek> it was just an idea how to get proper second calibration value relatively easy 2022-08-05T10:28:30 < jpa-> what makes the factory calibration improper? 2022-08-05T10:28:56 < jpa-> i know you are having some accuracy errors, but that might be just due to some yet not discovered problem in your code 2022-08-05T10:32:44 < drzacek> could be 2022-08-05T10:33:15 < qyx> factory calib is single point only, so we can only trust in zero gain error 2022-08-05T10:33:19 < drzacek> when I used the __LL Macro, that uses calibration data and takes into account the VRef, I landed with 13C? while we had 20C more in room 2022-08-05T10:33:34 < drzacek> qyx, no, it specifically mentions two points - at 30 and 130 2022-08-05T10:33:42 < qyx> wut, since when? 2022-08-05T10:33:44 < drzacek> but that varies between line 2022-08-05T10:33:45 < jpa-> have you run the ADC calibration after power-up? 2022-08-05T10:34:01 < jpa-> qyx: since many years 2022-08-05T10:34:02 < drzacek> qyx, various STM32L/F/G families and then the major number have different features. some dont have at all 2022-08-05T10:34:15 < drzacek> jpa-, oO 2022-08-05T10:34:21 < qyx> then I am very sorry for my blindness 2022-08-05T10:34:32 < jpa-> (not sure if cube runs ADC calib automatically) 2022-08-05T10:35:33 < qyx> you are right, L451 datasheet indeed says 30 and 130 2022-08-05T10:36:09 < drzacek> I dont htink it does 2022-08-05T10:36:23 < drzacek> I know, I read it :D 2022-08-05T10:37:49 < jpa-> there is also errata 2.5.3 Spurious temperature measurement due to spike noise 2022-08-05T10:37:56 < jpa-> but that would be only occassional 2022-08-05T10:39:09 < jpa-> also errata 2.5.2 that says maximum pause between ADC conversions is 1 ms or the first result will be inaccurate 2022-08-05T10:39:29 < drzacek> ah 2022-08-05T10:39:41 < jpa-> typical ST quality ;) 2022-08-05T10:40:06 < drzacek> so I kinda need to sample,convert,read twice to get one value? 2022-08-05T10:40:24 < drzacek> also conversions on same channel? cause I switch between channels 2022-08-05T10:40:52 < jpa-> same ADC, i think 2022-08-05T10:43:56 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-05T10:49:26 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-05T10:55:48 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T11:00:58 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T11:04:04 < drzacek> meh, measured it at 80, it's not far off. gonna leave it as is then 2022-08-05T11:14:30 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-05T11:14:30 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T11:16:04 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-05T13:04:18 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T13:39:59 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [] 2022-08-05T14:00:16 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T14:05:26 < milkylainen> I'm stuck with a problem for over 1 day now. When I use stm tf-a 2.6-r1, I can't boot a kernel. TF-A loads. BL33 loads. But when BL33 (U-boot) loads a kernel, the machine crashes. If I change TF-A to vanilla 2.7, everything boots. All components are otherwise identical. 2022-08-05T14:07:30 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T14:07:35 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T14:08:56 < milkylainen> Kernel is a 5.19. 2022-08-05T14:25:40 < invzim> anyone here running opencart/woocommerce or similar? I'm currently using j2store for joomla, but it doesn't support DHL 2022-08-05T14:26:26 < invzim> have to move away from FedEx as they have become complete cunt nuts in the last month 2022-08-05T14:27:50 < zyp> I ended up with saleor 2022-08-05T14:28:21 < zyp> but haven't finished the DHL integration for it yet, so I've booked close to a hundred shipments by hand over the past two months 2022-08-05T14:37:20 < invzim> how do you charge shipping, flat-rate? 2022-08-05T14:48:02 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@c-73-96-109-206.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-05T15:19:35 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T15:20:04 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:d63:72b9:72cb:82db] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-05T16:06:44 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T16:06:49 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T16:13:02 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-05T16:33:44 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T16:46:13 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-05T17:18:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-05T17:32:41 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T17:32:46 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T17:38:45 < catphish> jpa-: motor question: if i have an induction motor running at a low speed, with a low voltage, and (for example) 400A of stator current, then as the motor accelerates, why would it produce more torque at a higher speed? the volatge increases with speed, but the current reduces! the absolute slip is identical, so for some reason, higher speed seems to produce more torque for the same slip and current, i don't understand it :( 2022-08-05T17:42:22 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-05T17:44:41 < jpa-> catphish: i think the magnetic field in the rotor is proportional to slip * voltage, and torque is proportional to rotor_field * stator_field 2022-08-05T17:44:45 < catphish> to me this says something isn't optimal about my flux, but i'm not quite sure what 2022-08-05T17:44:52 < jpa-> so if your voltage increases more than current decreases, i think torque increases 2022-08-05T17:47:06 < catphish> i can't get my head around the first part of that, shouldn't the magnetic field in the rotor be pretty consistent? if it was a multiple of voltage then it would be *MUCH* greater at high speed 2022-08-05T17:48:31 < catphish> so, to put some numbers to this, the stator voltage starts at around 25V at 3Hz, and ruses up to 310V at 250Hz 2022-08-05T17:51:12 < catphish> but surely the rotor field isn't getting 10x stronger 2022-08-05T17:54:39 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-05T17:55:10 < catphish> maybe i'm wrong here, but i'd like to think i can ignore voltage, since voltage does nothing but cause a current to flow 2022-08-05T17:56:14 < catphish> but then there must be something else causing the same stator current to produce higher torque as speed increases 2022-08-05T18:00:39 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T18:00:39 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T18:10:05 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-05T18:19:46 < catphish> i have myself a theory, that some fixed amount of power might be used to magnetize the rotor, and that power becomes increasingly negligable as total power increases 2022-08-05T18:26:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-05T18:37:11 < jpa-> catphish: i guess it depends on how you measure slip 2022-08-05T18:37:32 < jpa-> usually it is in Hz but i guess you are using your "constant slip angle" thing? 2022-08-05T18:38:10 < catphish> i'm using a constant slip frequency, the stator frequency is 3Hz greater then the rotational speed of the rotor 2022-08-05T18:38:46 < catphish> unfortunately i can't measure or set slip *angle* 2022-08-05T18:40:33 < catphish> so if you look at the whole system from the rotor's frame of reference, there's always a magnetic field moving around it at 3Hz 2022-08-05T18:40:50 < catphish> and that magnetic field is always the consequence of a 400A current in the stator 2022-08-05T18:51:24 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T18:51:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T18:54:38 < jpa-> catphish: hmm indeed, that seems like it should give constant rotor field 2022-08-05T18:55:40 < jpa-> how do you determine that torque remains same? 2022-08-05T18:58:26 < catphish> jpa-: this is purely "by feel", there is a possibility that i'm simply incorrect ans torque is consistent, but everyone who drives this vehicle seems to believe it has more torque at high speed 2022-08-05T18:59:18 < catphish> perhaps i should look at the actual acceleration curve to be sure 2022-08-05T19:03:46 < PaulFertser> catphish: (sorry for offtopic and layman question) I thought on proper bikes if you go mid-to-high revs any abrupt throttle drop would cause a serious deceleration, and it can be so harsh that it locks the rear. Is it not the case for sports cars? And is it not similar to one pedal drive mode of EVs? 2022-08-05T19:06:14 < catphish> this is all configurable, my car never applies "negative" acceleration regardless of throttle position 2022-08-05T19:06:53 < catphish> i may add some, but i haven't got it right yet, so for now letting go of the throttle just coasts 2022-08-05T19:07:02 < PaulFertser> I understand but is not more natural to make it do plenty of "engine braking" to be similar in handling to sports bikes? 2022-08-05T19:09:46 < catphish> well it's all down to taste really 2022-08-05T19:10:02 < catphish> but engine braking is much less noticeable in modern engines 2022-08-05T19:10:53 < PaulFertser> If you drive an underpowered small cc car with robotic transmission that tends to select high gears as early as possible, yes ;) 2022-08-05T19:10:57 < zyp> modern as in low displacement? 2022-08-05T19:13:03 < zyp> in the egolf, you can switch from coasting to high regen and back just with a pull on the shifter lever, so I found myself using both quite a lot 2022-08-05T19:13:41 < zyp> there's also three regen levels between coasting and max which I never bothered using 2022-08-05T19:14:04 < PaulFertser> Guess that resembles the "jake brake" (on lorries) a bit. 2022-08-05T19:14:35 < zyp> when I got the egolf, I came from driving a manual, which I used to downshift to increase engine braking, so that translated over really well 2022-08-05T19:15:13 < catphish> it would be nice if i could get smooth regenerative breaking working, but right now it's not great at all 2022-08-05T19:15:53 < catphish> jpa-: turns out maybe i was being dumb, graphs of speed show linear (slightly falling) acceleration, not increasing 2022-08-05T19:16:27 < zyp> the ioniq also has like five regen levels, but lacks a quick way to switch between none and max, just has shifter paddles that steps through them one by one 2022-08-05T19:16:59 < zyp> and that's too slow, so I've ended up just leaving it at the second highest level IIRC 2022-08-05T19:18:03 < zyp> I think highest is true one pedal driving (i.e. car slows all the way to a stop if you take the foot of the pedal) 2022-08-05T19:18:13 < zyp> and I don't want that, so second highest it is 2022-08-05T19:20:45 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T19:20:50 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-05T19:41:02 < jpa-> catphish: ok :) 2022-08-05T19:41:11 < jpa-> catphish: human perception can be misleading 2022-08-05T20:13:02 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 2022-08-05T20:24:25 < bulletsquid> I have a stm32h750b-dk and I got chibios running an example LED program just fine. Now I'm trying to get the ethernet port to work, so I've enabled HAL_USE_MAC but now my board doesn't even run the blink thread. So I'm guessing something crashed in the MAC driver, but not sure what nor how to debug this. 2022-08-05T20:53:50 < jpa-> bulletsquid: start up your debugger and see where it is? 2022-08-05T21:02:03 < qyx> is the MAC address set? 2022-08-05T21:02:37 < qyx> I remember somewhere at the back of my brain that in the far past, around 2013-2014 on F107 2022-08-05T21:03:03 < qyx> that if MAC address was not set, simply enabling the MAC driver caused it to cycle on some condition during initialisation 2022-08-05T21:03:14 < qyx> but that's about all I remember 2022-08-05T21:03:22 < qyx> as jpa- says 2022-08-05T21:07:42 < bulletsquid> not sure how to even start the debugger, im not using an IDE or anything and not sure how to connect gdb to the stlink... 2022-08-05T21:07:50 < bulletsquid> qyx: i do not have it set, ill check that and see 2022-08-05T21:09:13 < qyx> what do you use to program it? 2022-08-05T21:09:36 < qyx> in openocd, simply halt the target, step a few times, you will recognise the pattern of PC addresses 2022-08-05T21:09:48 < bulletsquid> openocd 2022-08-05T21:09:52 < qyx> make objdump -S of your main.elf object file 2022-08-05T21:10:04 < qyx> find your address and identify the problematic location 2022-08-05T21:10:06 < qyx> but but 2022-08-05T21:10:15 < qyx> you didn't hear anything, I said nothing 2022-08-05T21:11:19 < bulletsquid> lol understood 2022-08-05T21:18:52 < jpa-> to connect gdb: openocd -f interface/stlink.cfg -f target/stm32h7xx.cfg it should print a port number, usually 3333; then run arm-none-eabi-gdb myfirmware.elf and to connect target extended :3333 2022-08-05T21:25:50 < bulletsquid> jpa-: awesome that worked, thank you :) 2022-08-05T21:25:56 < jpa-> :) 2022-08-05T21:26:08 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM] 2022-08-05T21:27:15 < jpa-> make sure to have -ggdb on gcc compiler line to make it generate debugging info 2022-08-05T21:31:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T21:33:21 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-05T21:42:18 < bulletsquid> what do the addresses mean? 0x08000e1a in chSysHalt (reason=reason@entry=0x800944c "MAC failure") 2022-08-05T21:42:49 < bulletsquid> the mac failure is a bit vague, could be the lack of mac being set or the ethernet port not being found? 2022-08-05T21:51:29 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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If I do it on timer2 and timer4 it works, but I'm not getting anything on timer1. Some pieces of code: https://gist.github.com/quinor/6a2c2ca87f742365d8cd1017a34621db 2022-08-06T07:40:27 < quinor> I don't have a scope to be 100% sure what's happening but I'm trying to control some servos and they don't respond to pins mapped to timer1 (and they do to timer2) 2022-08-06T07:41:20 < quinor> Anyone able to help me debug? I pondered it quite a bit and found nothing :/ 2022-08-06T07:51:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-06T07:53:47 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T07:56:10 < quinor> (now I'm using the "N" inverted outputs. I switched to "regular" outputs and it works fine, but I preferred to use the other pins. Are the "N" outputs special?) 2022-08-06T07:56:40 < quinor> (also yeah posting it here made me solve the problem in 15 mins after spending 3h on it before) 2022-08-06T08:13:33 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-06T08:26:18 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T09:38:15 < jpa-> quinor: i don't know about cube, but when accessing registers directly, TIM1 has MOE (Master Output Enable) bit in BDTR register, which the other timers do not have 2022-08-06T09:38:58 < jpa-> also the inverted outputs have separate enable bits 2022-08-06T10:35:27 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-06T10:36:39 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T11:06:28 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-06T11:11:46 -!- hexo [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-06T11:14:14 -!- hexo [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T11:23:47 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-06T11:49:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T12:11:05 < specing> quinor: blackpoll? 2022-08-06T12:11:09 < specing> quinor: blackpill? 2022-08-06T12:26:39 -!- fdarling [~forest@h96-61-153-1.mtjltn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-06T13:12:07 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-06T13:24:56 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T14:07:58 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T14:08:03 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-06T14:25:07 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T14:39:16 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-85-51.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-06T15:38:22 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-06T16:17:15 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T17:16:34 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5d03:3568:f0c7:bd92] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-06T17:32:10 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T17:32:17 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-06T18:11:25 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 2022-08-06T18:33:32 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-06T18:49:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-06T18:51:09 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T18:51:14 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-06T18:58:22 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-06T19:11:19 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T19:27:57 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T20:45:04 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-06T20:49:27 < invzim> is there a way to (easily) edit paste layer in altium? Application is to have lcsc mount all passives, and get the boards back without having to clean up the unused pads 2022-08-06T21:13:40 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T21:22:20 < zyp> I don't think jlcpcb cares about your paste layer 2022-08-06T21:22:57 < zyp> when I had them assemble a board, it came back without paste on the unassembled pads: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/KGt6O.jpg 2022-08-06T21:33:49 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T21:33:49 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-06T21:46:05 < invzim> hm, I had stuff come back WITH solder on unused pads 2022-08-06T21:46:31 < invzim> recent? Mine was some time back 2022-08-06T21:59:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T22:09:44 < jpa-> it might depend on whether they like your paste layer or if they decide to just remake it from solder mask layer 2022-08-06T22:20:42 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T22:25:28 < Steffanx> What the resolution of your pc monitor display thingy Mangy_Dog? 2022-08-06T22:25:59 < Steffanx> what is* 2022-08-06T22:28:34 < qyx> the one with rotating fans? 2022-08-06T22:29:52 < Steffanx> Sí señor. 2022-08-06T22:35:21 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-06T22:35:21 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T22:36:55 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-06T22:47:44 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-85-51.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T22:51:25 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T22:53:55 < Mangy_Dog> 800 480 2022-08-06T23:14:44 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-06T23:15:38 < Steffanx> And what ftdi/bridgetek did you use? 2022-08-06T23:15:48 < Steffanx> eve3/4 ? 2022-08-06T23:16:00 < Mangy_Dog> ft810 2022-08-06T23:16:21 < Mangy_Dog> cant remember which eve that is :D 2022-08-06T23:16:36 < Steffanx> 2 i think 2022-08-06T23:17:09 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-06T23:17:15 < Mangy_Dog> ahh 2022-08-06T23:17:19 < Mangy_Dog> tricorders on 2 as well then 2022-08-06T23:19:46 < Mangy_Dog> its a really col chip given its running off low end embedded hardware 2022-08-06T23:19:51 < Mangy_Dog> but it is very limited still 2022-08-06T23:20:19 < Mangy_Dog> text is the biggest issue and command limits per draw 2022-08-06T23:33:20 < Steffanx> it doesnt do 2048 commands? 2022-08-06T23:41:25 < Mangy_Dog> its limited to 2022-08-06T23:41:36 < Mangy_Dog> 2048 isnt as many as you think :D 2022-08-06T23:42:02 < Mangy_Dog> esp if you use text you can run out pretty quickly 2022-08-06T23:42:16 < Mangy_Dog> i go over it in my video as its the first time ive actually hit the limit 2022-08-06T23:42:25 < Mangy_Dog> while working on this project 2022-08-06T23:46:22 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has quit [Quit: Client closed] --- Day changed su elo 07 2022 2022-08-07T01:15:55 -!- Laco-LLL [Laco-LLL@is.only.here.for-some.fun] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T01:22:50 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2022-08-07T01:23:08 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-07T01:23:15 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T01:26:08 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T01:33:16 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T01:33:21 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-07T01:53:32 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-07T02:10:33 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2022-08-07T02:10:50 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T02:25:52 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-07T02:26:26 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-07T02:30:05 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T02:34:59 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T02:42:10 < quinor> jpa-: thanks! I didn't see it in cube 2022-08-07T02:42:24 < quinor> but maybe it's automatic 2022-08-07T02:42:50 < quinor> specing: nucleo I pulled from trash for a project appropriately called crapbot 2022-08-07T02:46:56 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T02:47:01 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-07T02:50:38 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-07T04:19:59 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-07T04:32:58 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T04:44:16 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:c13e:75d0:7f7a:b4fa] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-07T05:02:09 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-07T06:00:04 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T09:12:25 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-07T09:13:22 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-07T09:31:28 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T09:37:14 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T10:06:02 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-07T10:19:26 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-07T10:34:36 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T10:34:36 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-07T10:36:10 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-07T11:53:39 < specing> quinor: what was it doing in trash, that's no place for it 2022-08-07T11:55:56 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-07T12:02:16 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T13:17:09 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T15:27:00 -!- nikomo [~quassel@nikomo.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-07T15:55:35 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [] 2022-08-07T15:55:50 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T16:14:22 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:1444:1bf3:49a3:f403] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T16:14:27 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-07T16:55:52 < invzim> need a serial eeprom for next project, just to store a few configuration bytes - anyone got a favorite? 2022-08-07T16:58:49 < zyp> M24128-BFMH6TG 2022-08-07T17:01:29 < specing> invzim: why not in flash? 2022-08-07T17:04:00 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T17:06:55 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T17:16:27 < invzim> because I couldn't be assed to write a nvram/eeprom emulation thingie - user settings.. 2022-08-07T17:17:21 < specing> invzim: but increasing BOM is better?! 2022-08-07T17:17:59 * specing doubts that there isn't already a library to emulate that 2022-08-07T17:18:42 < invzim> zyp: dfn5, hard-core, thanks for part no :) 2022-08-07T17:19:21 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-07T17:20:44 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T17:23:25 < Steffanx> You can easily do cheaper than that.. like 50%. Who needs 128k? 2022-08-07T17:26:02 < zyp> IIRC I assembled orbtrace protos with smaller, but opted to switch to that partly just to get 16-bit addressing 2022-08-07T17:26:49 < zyp> IIRC there were not a huge price difference 2022-08-07T17:27:53 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-07T17:28:25 < invzim> if a part costs .4 usd or .2 usd, qty 1 pr board doesn't really make a difference 2022-08-07T17:28:40 < zyp> something like that 2022-08-07T17:29:44 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-07T17:32:57 < zyp> on the orbtrace, dfn5 isn't all that small, just makes it fit in with the surrounding parts: https://store.zyp.no/media/products/orbtrace_pcb_11acc4b8.jpg 2022-08-07T17:33:16 < zyp> the qfn12 next to it is smaller :) 2022-08-07T17:37:48 < invzim> got plenty of space on this board, so going for something big and easy :) 2022-08-07T17:39:33 < zyp> then just put a so8 footprint and populate with whatever 2022-08-07T17:55:01 < qyx> you are good with no emulation at all 2022-08-07T17:55:16 < qyx> erase block, write config struct in one go, done 2022-08-07T17:55:52 < qyx> you may lose settings if something wrong happens during write, but the same applies to external eeprom 2022-08-07T18:05:08 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T18:07:49 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T18:08:31 < catphish> what the fuck is going on? STM32 in stock, even when searching with a specific chip with CAN! 2022-08-07T18:13:29 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T18:14:48 < qyx> wut 2022-08-07T18:14:50 < qyx> which one 2022-08-07T18:15:01 < catphish> loads of them 2022-08-07T18:15:31 < catphish> i was looking for a small one and found https://uk.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/stm32f334k8t6/mcu-32bit-cortex-m4-72mhz-lqfp/dp/2469571?st=can 2022-08-07T18:15:33 < qyx> in-te-res-ting 2022-08-07T18:15:42 < catphish> but there's plenty more 2022-08-07T18:17:51 < qyx> not many of them in stock in mouser 2022-08-07T18:19:18 < catphish> well last time i looked there were zero, none in stock anywhere, which the sole exception of the F103 jlc stock 2022-08-07T18:19:54 < catphish> today i just want a way to display CAN data on a small LCD 2022-08-07T18:36:22 < qyx> wth f042 in stock? 2022-08-07T18:37:28 < qyx> ok farnell has indeed better stock 2022-08-07T18:46:44 < Steffanx> Ohnooo 2022-08-07T19:18:47 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-07T19:19:19 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T19:24:38 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-07T19:26:12 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T19:31:26 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-07T19:31:54 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T19:47:57 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2022-08-07T19:48:16 -!- anomandaris [~anomandar@a94-132-168-30.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T19:49:45 < anomandaris> Hi all. I'm experimenting with a neo-m8 gnss device and time keeping on a stm32. Currently I'm reading ZDA messages from uart and UBX-NAV-TIMEUTC from I2C (gnss's ddc interface) 2022-08-07T19:50:09 < anomandaris> by converting both data to epoch I see theres a difference of 1s between each 2022-08-07T19:50:35 < anomandaris> is this related to top of second? I can't find on the datasheet if either of the messages are aligned to PPS 2022-08-07T19:50:53 < anomandaris> (i forgot to say I'm reading these messages when a pps signal is triggered) 2022-08-07T19:51:47 < anomandaris> can be this be a programming error, or can be indeed a 1s difference between the messages? 2022-08-07T19:59:53 < jpa-> anomandaris: https://jpa.kapsi.fi/stuff/pix/ublox_timing.png from the manual description it seems that the ZDA messages are sent before the PPS pulse and the time indicated is valid at the rising edge of PPS 2022-08-07T20:00:52 < jpa-> if you read buffered UART data and start a new I2C read at PPS pulse, you'll probably receive different values 2022-08-07T20:03:42 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T20:04:27 < anomandaris> hm. I'm still confused. Doesn't it relate to the type of message? From the image it seems TIM-TP and NAV-PVT have different values 2022-08-07T20:05:27 < anomandaris> btw, as a way of testing I'm currently reading the uart from my computer (usb cable to the gnss) and the I2C on the stm32 itself 2022-08-07T20:07:29 < jpa-> hmm yeah, UBX-TIM-TP description also says "This message contains information on the timing of the next pulse", while ZDA does not say 2022-08-07T20:09:11 < anomandaris> yeah  I was expecting a similar description either on ZDA or TIMEPULSE. That's why I'm thinking it might have something to do with the ddc interface (i2c) or programming mistake 2022-08-07T20:09:30 < anomandaris> but 1s doesn't seem concidence 2022-08-07T20:09:43 < anomandaris> coincidence* 2022-08-07T20:13:30 < anomandaris> hm it seems that if I wait 110ms after the pps signal before reading I2C the timestamps match 2022-08-07T20:14:11 < anomandaris> so perhaps ddc interface is slower and without waiting I'm reading the previous data? 2022-08-07T20:14:20 < jpa-> why not read same message from both interfaces? 2022-08-07T20:15:10 < anomandaris> because I like to complicate things .. Yeah that would probably be better : ) 2022-08-07T20:16:30 < anomandaris> but honestly is because I had a ubx parser ready on the stm32 at the time, so I went with it 2022-08-07T20:20:59 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-07T20:21:53 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T21:21:38 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 2022-08-07T21:54:50 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-07T21:54:54 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-07T22:47:15 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:1444:1bf3:49a3:f403] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-07T23:50:42 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:1444:1bf3:49a3:f403] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-07T23:50:42 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca --- Day changed ma elo 08 2022 2022-08-08T00:19:24 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T00:25:47 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-08T00:51:42 -!- anomandaris [~anomandar@a94-132-168-30.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-08T00:55:34 < kaki> catphish: box finished? 2022-08-08T00:56:37 < kaki> I learned that bolted strips between cells are actually foils of copper that are soldered into one piece from each end 2022-08-08T00:57:00 < kaki> and heat shrink tube is on top of unsoldered part 2022-08-08T00:57:25 < kaki> so the middle part gives flexibility 2022-08-08T01:04:23 < Steffanx> When you will blog about building saunas kaki? 2022-08-08T01:05:04 < kaki> I think I will build ultralight plane 2022-08-08T01:05:27 < Steffanx> Also nice 2022-08-08T01:08:28 < qyx> solar powered glider? 2022-08-08T01:14:35 < kaki> I think 2stroke + electric hybrid 2022-08-08T01:14:40 < kaki> or 4stroke 2022-08-08T01:15:01 < kaki> base power from ICE 2022-08-08T01:15:26 < kaki> STOL performance from electricity 2022-08-08T01:15:50 < specing> remove batteries and you get STOL perf? 2022-08-08T01:16:11 < kaki> no 2022-08-08T01:17:15 < kaki> remove batteries and barelly TOL 2022-08-08T01:18:06 < kaki> just certainly L perf 2022-08-08T01:20:19 < kaki> also it should be under 75kg with some fuel in it 2022-08-08T01:24:42 < specing> tough 2022-08-08T01:25:59 < kaki> base glider I'm looking at is 68kg but by changing spars to carbon fiber honeycomb and nose and vertical section from bolted aluminum tubes to single piece composite structure maybe it could be under 60kg without hybrid power 2022-08-08T01:26:20 < kaki> and ofc replace steel cables with dynema or something kevlar like 2022-08-08T01:29:39 < qyx> isn't dyneema/uhmwpe too stretchy? 2022-08-08T01:30:35 < qyx> kevlar sounds better 2022-08-08T01:31:09 < kaki> idk but you have pretty much weight budget to make it thicker until it doesn't stretch 2022-08-08T01:31:29 < kaki> more than steel 2022-08-08T01:32:43 < kaki> the glider with motor requires 4kw to maintain level flight and 6kw to glimb 300fpm 2022-08-08T01:33:28 < qyx> what is the wing surface? 2022-08-08T01:33:38 < kaki> area or material? 2022-08-08T01:33:51 < qyx> isn't 4 kW too much? I would expect much less 2022-08-08T01:33:59 < qyx> area 2022-08-08T01:34:33 < kaki> it's open cabin configuration and all kinds of wires and struts hanging 2022-08-08T01:36:17 < kaki> qyx: it takes 4kw to maintain 80kmh level flight in 300kg+passengers 2seater sailplane 2022-08-08T01:36:47 < kaki> in this one you get 1 passenger and 45kmh or something with that 4kw 2022-08-08T01:37:40 < kaki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAwpi7VPQTk here is somebody playing with chinese electric motor etc. 2022-08-08T01:37:51 < kaki> 50kw bldc 2022-08-08T01:38:15 < qyx> is it caused by aerodynamic drag? 2022-08-08T01:38:31 < kaki> you mean induced drag? 2022-08-08T01:38:37 < kaki> maybe some part 2022-08-08T01:38:56 < qyx> yes thats probably the right term 2022-08-08T01:39:06 < kaki> = wing 2022-08-08T01:39:45 < kaki> big part must be drag of goofball operating the stick 2022-08-08T01:40:05 < qyx> I wanted a multi-hour capable drone with about 5 m wing span 2022-08-08T01:40:14 < qyx> with photovoltaics on wings 2022-08-08T01:40:20 < qyx> but meh 2022-08-08T01:40:31 < qyx> not enough time 2022-08-08T01:41:13 < BrainDamage> wing surface gives you friction, that's separated from drag 2022-08-08T01:41:43 < BrainDamage> drag is the resistance you have at pushing air out of your way, friction is the loss of momentum that you have from air rubbing at the surfaces 2022-08-08T01:41:58 < BrainDamage> normally friction is negligible, but not for airplanes 2022-08-08T01:41:58 < kaki> and induced drag is part that corresponds to lift generated 2022-08-08T01:42:46 < qyx> and whats aspect ratio? 2022-08-08T01:42:55 < qyx> I didn't get that one 2022-08-08T01:43:28 < kaki> qyx: I need to dig in drawings first 2022-08-08T01:43:50 < qyx> I mean what does aspect ratio mean 2022-08-08T01:44:29 < qyx> I have read some PDFs so far 2022-08-08T01:44:33 < BrainDamage> cross section / length, the higher aspect ratio the more it looks like a thin rod 2022-08-08T01:44:43 < BrainDamage> lower aspect ratio instead make it look like a wall 2022-08-08T01:45:01 < kaki> if you have long wing or short wing 2022-08-08T01:45:28 < qyx> length of the wing? 2022-08-08T01:45:49 < qyx> so a paper like wing has high aspect ratio? 2022-08-08T01:46:06 < kaki> no 2022-08-08T01:46:41 < kaki> if you look from top of the wing it's like aspect ratio of monitor 2022-08-08T01:46:59 < qyx> oh 2022-08-08T01:47:08 < qyx> not from the cross section view 2022-08-08T01:47:09 < BrainDamage> sorry, the one I was talking about is on the overall airplane 2022-08-08T01:47:16 < BrainDamage> the wing aspect ratio is on the wingspan 2022-08-08T01:47:30 < BrainDamage> so higher aspect ratio: larger wings 2022-08-08T01:48:03 < BrainDamage> lift/drag is a often quoted figure for a wingspan 2022-08-08T01:48:26 < BrainDamage> the longer the wings the higher that figure - up to a certain point 2022-08-08T01:49:55 < kaki> qyx: 174sqft 2022-08-08T01:50:06 < kaki> drawings I assume are in fun units 2022-08-08T01:50:09 < BrainDamage> the slower you go the longer the wingspan normally, and viceversa 2022-08-08T01:50:40 < BrainDamage> partially because higher speeds requires higher tensile forces to prevent it falling apart 2022-08-08T01:50:53 < BrainDamage> and part because you get more lift out of stub wings at high speeds 2022-08-08T01:51:16 < kaki> wait what.. drawings say empty weight with parachute 120lbs 2022-08-08T01:51:19 < kaki> 54kg 2022-08-08T01:51:42 < BrainDamage> yeah, us' units are unfortunately common in aeronautics 2022-08-08T01:51:55 < kaki> hobby aircraft especially 2022-08-08T01:52:48 < qyx> so about 17 m2 2022-08-08T01:53:15 < qyx> which is roughly 3500 Wp of photovoltaics 2022-08-08T01:53:37 < qyx> not bad 2022-08-08T01:53:51 < kaki> yeah but 75kg is the limit 2022-08-08T01:53:52 < qyx> assuming ideal conditions 2022-08-08T01:54:39 < qyx> frameless cells epoxied to the wing surface + some coating and wires 2022-08-08T01:55:28 < qyx> limit for ultralight? 2022-08-08T01:56:44 < kaki> yeah.. the low limit 2022-08-08T01:58:33 < kaki> bellow that it's in same class than somebody flying paraglider 2022-08-08T01:59:07 < kaki> no need for registeration of aircraft or ultralight licence 2022-08-08T02:00:51 < kaki> it's just technicalities if your wing structure is held together by ropes and air or aluminum tubes 2022-08-08T02:02:43 < qyx> you need nothing special to fly a paraglide? 2022-08-08T02:02:50 < kaki> correct 2022-08-08T02:03:02 < qyx> except a radio license probably 2022-08-08T02:03:08 < kaki> correct 2022-08-08T02:03:13 < qyx> hm 2022-08-08T02:03:24 < kaki> if you want to use radio 2022-08-08T02:03:47 < qyx> no need to report to ATC? 2022-08-08T02:03:59 < qyx> or ads-b transponder? 2022-08-08T02:04:15 < qyx> sounds wild 2022-08-08T02:04:20 < kaki> it's not a requirement unless flying in RMZ 2022-08-08T02:04:46 < kaki> radio that is 2022-08-08T02:05:12 < qyx> I need to check the law here 2022-08-08T02:06:08 < kaki> laws are pretty much symmetrical internationally but airspaces vary 2022-08-08T02:07:16 < kaki> you might live inside RMZ & TMZ especially if there is big airport within.. 50-100km or something 2022-08-08T02:10:53 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-08T02:11:05 < kaki> airspace classes are also laddered vertically 2022-08-08T02:15:06 < kaki> some areas you might mind your business under certain altitude only in visual meteorological conditions though 2022-08-08T02:17:59 < kaki> because you need to see the other pilots minding their business and steer clear 2022-08-08T02:19:03 -!- haritz [~hrtz@2a02:8010:65b5:0:6009:6384:e3cb:2220] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T02:19:03 -!- haritz [~hrtz@2a02:8010:65b5:0:6009:6384:e3cb:2220] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-08T02:19:03 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T02:49:01 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-08T03:08:26 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:15:12 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@2607:fb90:806a:520:df65:875b:599c:4b38] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:17:56 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-08T03:20:14 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-08T03:20:39 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@2607:fb90:806a:520:df65:875b:599c:4b38] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-08T03:21:20 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:24:35 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@2607:fb90:c65:ce4e:3ffd:a5f9:e1af:1933] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:27:14 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-08T03:31:01 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:32:36 -!- ferdna__ [~ferdna@2607:fb90:1bdc:5fe9:8e21:45b6:382d:a00e] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:32:47 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-08T03:34:58 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@2607:fb90:c65:ce4e:3ffd:a5f9:e1af:1933] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-08T03:37:28 -!- ferdna__ [~ferdna@2607:fb90:1bdc:5fe9:8e21:45b6:382d:a00e] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-08T03:39:58 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:51:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@047-034-172-219.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T03:58:37 < upgrdman> any Ant pros in here? i have an SSHexec task that runs a java program on a remote host. i'd like the ability to force that java program to close on the remote host if i terminate the ant target. is there any way to run an SSHexec task automatically if i terminate an Ant target? 2022-08-08T04:15:21 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-08T04:19:15 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:1444:1bf3:49a3:f403] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-08T04:19:41 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T04:34:09 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-08T04:47:29 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T05:25:25 < upgrdman> whats the linux signal typically use to gracefully close a program? HUP? 2022-08-08T06:09:10 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-08T07:21:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@047-034-172-219.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-08T07:54:52 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T08:24:18 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-08T08:36:57 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T09:16:37 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T09:18:01 < qyx> sigterm? 2022-08-08T09:38:09 -!- rkta__ is now known as rkta 2022-08-08T09:40:11 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T09:40:33 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-08T09:47:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T09:47:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-08T09:47:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T10:25:59 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T10:25:59 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-08T10:27:32 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-08T10:32:36 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-08T10:46:22 < catphish> kaki: box finished https://i.imgur.com/MqKvKZH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UenPwDE.jpg 2022-08-08T10:46:36 < catphish> upgrdman: TERM 2022-08-08T10:48:58 < catphish> SIGINT, SIGTERM, SIGQUIT and SIGHUP can all be handled in whatever way the program deems appropriate, but TERM is the most standard "please exit as soon as it's appropriate" signal 2022-08-08T10:50:50 < Xogium> didn't know about term 2022-08-08T10:50:54 < Xogium> interesting 2022-08-08T10:51:28 < Xogium> sigkill is a bit hardcore 2022-08-08T10:52:13 < catphish> yeah, KILL is kind of an exception, it never reaches the process, it tells the kernel to simply remove the process from the system 2022-08-08T10:53:22 < Xogium> don't do that on pid 1 ^^ 2022-08-08T10:53:47 < catphish> i'm morbidly curious to know what would happen 2022-08-08T10:54:01 < catphish> hold my beer 2022-08-08T10:54:02 < phryk> try it, you know you want to! 2022-08-08T10:54:21 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T10:54:39 < catphish> well, oddly, nothing happend 2022-08-08T10:54:48 < Xogium> hmm, systemd ? 2022-08-08T10:54:53 < catphish> it's still running 2022-08-08T10:55:07 < Xogium> systemd intercepts kill and completely... Ignores it 2022-08-08T10:55:31 < Xogium> same for sigterm, sigsegv 2022-08-08T10:56:10 < Xogium> now granted sigsegv is a bit not cool, but if you're lucky you get a system still functional enough to go through a normal shutdown 2022-08-08T10:56:39 < Xogium> back in the days of sysv, if pid 1 segfaulted or got sigkill or sigterm, it'd die and cause a panic 2022-08-08T10:56:42 < catphish> ah 2022-08-08T10:57:04 < catphish> > The only signals that can be sent to process ID 1, the init process, are those for which init has explicitly installed signal handlers. This is done to assure the system is not brought down accidentally. 2022-08-08T10:57:55 < Xogium> that's smarter than just doing it yollo 2022-08-08T11:01:51 < catphish> linux isn't usually so opinionated, but since init exiting is a kernel panic, i can see why they decided it's never useful 2022-08-08T11:02:57 < Xogium> yeah 2022-08-08T11:05:18 < drzacek> catphish, that's a sweet ride 2022-08-08T11:05:29 < catphish> drzacek: thanks :) 2022-08-08T11:05:52 < drzacek> you guys are trying to exit vim? 2022-08-08T11:05:58 < catphish> haha 2022-08-08T11:06:14 < catphish> nah, nobody's ever worked out how to exit vim 2022-08-08T11:06:23 * drzacek used to do just that - ssh on new session, sudo killall -9 vim 2022-08-08T11:06:34 < catphish> lol 2022-08-08T11:06:35 < drzacek> before I learned how to do it with bashing keyboard 2022-08-08T11:22:59 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T11:33:57 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mobile-access-bcee11-208.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T11:51:36 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 2022-08-08T11:52:09 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T11:58:49 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mobile-access-bcee11-208.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2022-08-08T12:02:19 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 2022-08-08T12:06:30 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:12:43 -!- ds2 [~ds2@162-194-129-85.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-08T12:14:51 -!- ds2 [~ds2@162-194-129-85.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:21:59 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:22:00 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-08T12:22:00 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:26:14 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-08T12:26:27 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:26:27 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-08T12:26:27 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:27:45 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-08T12:27:56 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:27:56 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-08T12:27:56 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:32:04 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-08T12:32:16 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:32:17 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@host-82-57-156-254.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-08T12:32:17 -!- Posterdati [~posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T12:59:36 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mobile-access-bcee11-208.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T13:03:50 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mobile-access-bcee11-208.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-08T13:07:08 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T13:12:04 < jpa-> does anyone know a good installer creation thingy for windows? 2022-08-08T13:12:36 < jpa-> i have used innosetup, nullsoft and wix in the past, all work but i wonder if there is something new/better 2022-08-08T13:18:21 < qyx> innosetup only 2022-08-08T13:18:22 < qyx> I used 2022-08-08T13:53:56 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-08T14:10:14 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2022-08-08T14:10:26 -!- Sadale_ [~Sadale@user/sadale] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T14:13:39 -!- hexo [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-08T14:31:21 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T14:46:14 -!- hexo [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T14:58:16 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:1444:1bf3:49a3:f403] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-08T14:58:21 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-08T15:45:55 < catphish> definitely try NSIS (nullsoft) 2022-08-08T16:56:34 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-08T16:58:57 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - 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Many more details about the insides of the weapons at https://static.rusi.org/RUSI-Silicon-Lifeline-final-web.pdf 2022-08-08T23:29:01 < Posterdati> I mean stm32f429 2022-08-08T23:30:51 < Laurence_b> hah nice 2022-08-08T23:31:12 < Laurence_b> hyperloop traction motor makes an epin hand cranked arc welder 2022-08-08T23:31:37 < Laurence_b> very hard to get good welds tho, need to have two guys spinning the wheel while one welds 2022-08-08T23:32:03 < Laurence_b> can only do tack welds as two guys cant output multiple kw 2022-08-08T23:32:44 < Laurence_b> >there is stm32 storage cuz putin grabbed them all 2022-08-08T23:32:48 < Laurence_b> what a tiem to be alive 2022-08-08T23:33:40 < Laurence_b> hah ublox gps 2022-08-08T23:34:08 < Laurence_b> they clearly found it was unlocked lol, they are good for balloons too 2022-08-08T23:34:55 < Laurence_b> AD9361 2022-08-08T23:35:04 < Laurence_b> russian know what they are doing 2022-08-08T23:36:22 < Posterdati> doesn't seems so, 6 months in a stupid 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He stopped responding to my pm out of the blue 2022-08-09T12:40:35 < mawk> I'm alive Xogium don't worry 2022-08-09T12:40:45 < mawk> I had to go to a cousin's funeral 2022-08-09T12:41:42 < Xogium> mawk: oh dang. I'm real sorry to hear that 2022-08-09T12:42:02 < Xogium> not the I'm alive part ;) 2022-08-09T12:42:08 < Xogium> but funerals are just.. 2022-08-09T12:45:08 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-5.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-09T12:47:26 < Xogium> but yeah I was kinda starting to get a bit worried :/ 2022-08-09T12:50:45 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-09T13:08:23 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T13:19:26 < mawk> he was 16 2022-08-09T13:19:33 < mawk> he hanged himself on the last day of a scout camp 2022-08-09T13:19:49 < mawk> all the other kids are traumatized for life now 2022-08-09T13:19:59 < mawk> police had to come, conduct an autopsy and interrogate all the kids 2022-08-09T13:21:08 < Xogium> holy shit 2022-08-09T13:21:20 < Xogium> that's beyond hardcore 2022-08-09T13:31:52 < catphish_> shit 2022-08-09T13:32:55 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T13:48:36 < Steffanx> Damn mawk 2022-08-09T13:51:54 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T13:55:07 -!- josuah` [~irc@46.23.94.12] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.4.1] 2022-08-09T13:55:22 -!- josuah [~irc@46.23.94.12] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T13:58:19 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:79a0:95ee:2a0:1aa4] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T13:58:26 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-09T13:59:27 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-09T14:22:50 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-09T14:23:14 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T14:38:15 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:79a0:95ee:2a0:1aa4] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-09T14:40:23 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-09T14:42:03 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T14:45:28 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T14:57:45 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:79a0:95ee:2a0:1aa4] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T14:57:45 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-09T16:00:35 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-09T16:03:17 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T16:37:17 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-85-51.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-09T16:49:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-09T17:01:40 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T17:05:09 -!- c10ud_ [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-09T17:07:45 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T17:25:18 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T17:29:26 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-09T17:59:04 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:79a0:95ee:2a0:1aa4] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-09T18:00:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T18:16:50 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-09T18:29:49 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-09T18:30:10 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-5.cgn.sunrise.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T18:54:48 < bitmask> damn im dumb, they make visual studio for mac? 2022-08-09T18:59:46 < Steffanx> Apparently. 2022-08-09T19:01:48 < bitmask> i gotta try it, xcode pisses me off 2022-08-09T19:02:05 < bitmask> its fine i guess but theres something wrong with autocomplete 2022-08-09T19:02:13 < bitmask> it takes 5-10 seconds for results to pop up 2022-08-09T19:13:13 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-09T19:13:47 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T19:24:55 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-5.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-09T19:28:19 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T19:44:06 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-09T19:57:58 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@2620:10d:c090:400::5:c57c] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T20:14:47 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-09T20:20:29 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T20:23:13 -!- Guest14 [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:611c:fffa:8d6b:829] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T20:23:17 -!- Guest14 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-09T20:27:36 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T20:41:27 < bitmask> oh damn visual studio for mac doesnt support c++ 2022-08-09T20:55:29 < Mangy_Dog> wha? 2022-08-09T21:02:42 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T21:06:34 < bitmask> its only for .net and web stuff or something 2022-08-09T21:06:48 < bitmask> you need to use vscode for mac but thats just an editor or something 2022-08-09T21:08:38 -!- brazuca [~Guest14@2804:7f4:3590:6971:611c:fffa:8d6b:829] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-09T21:35:22 < Steffanx> VS code is more than an editor with its extension 2022-08-09T21:41:27 < Steffanx> s 2022-08-09T22:05:04 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-09T22:21:41 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T22:26:09 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T22:26:09 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-09T22:27:41 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-09T22:37:18 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-09T22:55:36 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-09T23:02:20 -!- fdarling [~forest@h96-61-153-1.mtjltn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-09T23:07:44 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-09T23:52:20 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2022-08-09T23:54:37 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-85-51.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed ke elo 10 2022 2022-08-10T00:01:40 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T00:06:13 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T00:09:35 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T00:10:12 < kaki> early kaki 2022-08-10T00:12:39 < Steffanx> Hello kaki. 2022-08-10T00:13:23 < kaki> I saw secret papers that Trump had thrown in toilet bowl 2022-08-10T00:14:24 < kaki> I think paper had "steffanx" writen in it 2022-08-10T00:17:54 < kaki> it all makes sense now 2022-08-10T00:29:20 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-10T00:45:25 < kaki> qyx: I think I will pass the ultrasonic flying mamal visual locator project.. I see there is at least 5 visual ultrasonic detector products 2022-08-10T00:54:29 < Steffanx> Still a nice project to learn new things kaki 2022-08-10T00:55:05 < kaki> maybe learn how to use some ftdi chip and fpga as glue 2022-08-10T00:57:24 < kaki> Steffanx: there is no innovation in doing thing that is already done properly by 5 companies 2022-08-10T00:58:18 < Steffanx> Good luck inventing something new. 2022-08-10T00:58:55 < Steffanx> If only it was a simple as.. ftdi + fpga = done 2022-08-10T01:00:29 < kaki> yeah 2022-08-10T01:00:29 < Steffanx> Will you still go for the leak detector or.. fluke did it, so it's done. 2022-08-10T01:01:00 < kaki> I don't need a leak detector 2022-08-10T01:01:38 < Steffanx> You did need a flying mammal locator? 2022-08-10T01:01:46 < kaki> nope 2022-08-10T01:01:51 < Steffanx> Do* 2022-08-10T01:03:03 < catphish> morning humans 2022-08-10T01:03:04 < catphish> i'm bored 2022-08-10T01:03:19 < Steffanx> Time to drive the car, at night 2022-08-10T01:05:23 < Steffanx> Or sleep and enjoy the new things tomorrow brings. 2022-08-10T01:07:29 < catphish> i have no plans tomorrow 2022-08-10T01:08:47 < kaki> I asked one night catphish 2022-08-10T01:08:53 < kaki> "what next?" 2022-08-10T01:09:05 < catphish> no idea 2022-08-10T01:09:16 < Steffanx> Electronic airplane. 2022-08-10T01:09:28 < Steffanx> Electric. Or whatever 2022-08-10T01:09:37 < Steffanx> Kaki needs help and motivation 2022-08-10T01:10:08 < kaki> hybrid 2022-08-10T01:13:24 < Steffanx> There's no innovation in that 😉 2022-08-10T01:19:08 < kaki> there is some interesting optimization to do or at least look at 2022-08-10T01:19:17 < kaki> look further into* 2022-08-10T01:21:00 < kaki> hard to find high specific power cells 2022-08-10T01:22:14 < kaki> search results are all about specific energy.. but I want all the power per kg 2022-08-10T01:23:14 < Steffanx> It's still, battery, engine, wings. Done. 2022-08-10T01:25:23 < kaki> yes 2022-08-10T01:26:25 < kaki> then enjoy flyings 2022-08-10T01:42:33 < karlp> fucking my own oard, uart0, get one interrupt on rx, then never again. polled mode works fine. 2022-08-10T01:42:52 < karlp> ch582 dev board, uses uart1, get interrupts as expected, 2022-08-10T01:43:09 < karlp> "only" (obviously not) differece is uart0 supports modem signals that I'm not enabling... 2022-08-10T01:43:28 < karlp> ok, time to rewire the dev board, see what uart0 does there... 2022-08-10T01:43:34 < kaki> 4kw/kg constant discharge is highest I have found 2022-08-10T01:44:19 < kaki> 8kw/kg for >10sec 2022-08-10T01:47:47 < karlp> ah, no. fails on dev board too. I've had a bad test recording regimen then ovciously 2022-08-10T01:47:49 < karlp> fucking fucks 2022-08-10T01:59:12 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T01:59:15 < Laurence_b> suppp 2022-08-10T01:59:27 < Laurence_b> hyperboss is failing again 2022-08-10T01:59:50 < Laurence_b> he ""forgot"" to design the bearing air seal for the hyperwheel 2022-08-10T02:00:09 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-10T02:00:11 < Laurence_b> now I have to do it 2022-08-10T02:00:50 < kaki> hyperwheel :o 2022-08-10T02:00:55 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-10T02:01:47 < Laurence_b> I dont understand bearing seals properly 2022-08-10T02:02:09 < Laurence_b> wonder if Bernoulli effect is significant in oil retention 2022-08-10T02:03:25 < kaki> are you designing labyrinth seal? 2022-08-10T02:03:49 < kaki> does it have contact between surfaces or a gap? 2022-08-10T02:05:03 < Laurence_b> hyperboss wants labyrinth seal 2022-08-10T02:05:10 < Laurence_b> I think oil seal might work 2022-08-10T02:05:25 < kaki> what are you sealing 2022-08-10T02:06:07 < kaki> does it have vacuum? 2022-08-10T02:06:16 < kaki> is it in vacuum? 2022-08-10T02:06:22 < kaki> does it have gasses? 2022-08-10T02:07:39 < Laurence_b> vacuum outside, ~0.7bar air inside 2022-08-10T02:09:22 < kaki> permissible rate of leak has been defined? 2022-08-10T02:09:55 < kaki> you have oil there too? you want to separate that and recirculate it? 2022-08-10T02:10:40 < Laurence_b> nothing is defined lol 2022-08-10T02:10:45 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T02:10:52 < Laurence_b> I'm wondering if a once through oil system would work 2022-08-10T02:11:25 < Laurence_b> just a ~2L oil tank with pressurisation to ~1.5bar, fed between two rubber seals 2022-08-10T02:12:17 < karlp> oh ffs, I just had a dirty tree when I was fucking with interrupt dispatching in laks :) 2022-08-10T02:12:21 < karlp> so fucking dumb 2022-08-10T02:14:17 < Laurence_b> dirty tree? 2022-08-10T02:15:50 < karlp> my own git repo from when I was fucking with the different riscv interrupt handling modes. 2022-08-10T02:15:52 < karlp> my own fault. 2022-08-10T02:16:05 < kaki> Laurence_b: are you planning to consume that oil? 2022-08-10T02:17:21 < kaki> creating a seal for keeping air in out of oil? 2022-08-10T02:17:54 < Laurence_b> no, just to stop the air leaking out 2022-08-10T02:18:16 < Laurence_b> oil will tend to leak, but back of envelope suggests it will be very slow 2022-08-10T02:23:09 < kaki> interestings 2022-08-10T02:23:33 < kaki> could it be made even so that it doesn't leak out 2022-08-10T02:24:13 < kaki> it would require maybe certain rotation speed and oil temperature and stuff 2022-08-10T02:24:21 < Laurence_b> hmm looks like bernoulli does retain oil 2022-08-10T02:24:25 < Laurence_b> this is too easy 2022-08-10T02:24:25 < kaki> and circulation 2022-08-10T02:25:10 < kaki> how fast does the axle surface move? 2022-08-10T02:26:17 < kaki> I mean if it goes really fast oil could heat up 2022-08-10T02:28:21 < Laurence_b> about 50m/s 2022-08-10T02:30:27 < Laurence_b> when its stationary the rubber seals should close against the shaft, and surface tension will also retain the oil 2022-08-10T02:30:48 < Laurence_b> at speed there will be a hydrodynamic film, but bernoulli will retain the oil 2022-08-10T02:31:30 < kaki> twice the speed of car engine piston at rev limiter 2022-08-10T02:41:57 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [] 2022-08-10T02:52:48 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-10T03:01:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-10T03:24:46 < karlp> well, bleh, absolutely zero bluyetooth on my own board. 2022-08-10T03:24:49 < karlp> guess that's bed time then. 2022-08-10T03:25:30 < karlp> guess next step is to try using vendor binaries on my board, see if it's something I've fucked up porting to laks... 2022-08-10T03:50:16 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T04:20:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T04:20:56 < upgrdman> windows pros: is there an easy way to copy the first n bytes of a file? i need to copy the first half of a 200GB file to a drive that only has 120GB free :/ explorer won't even let me try :) 2022-08-10T04:31:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T05:17:37 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-10T05:44:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-10T06:20:53 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-10T06:23:00 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T07:43:40 -!- Xogium [~Xogium@LuminaSensum/founder/Xogium] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-10T07:44:02 -!- Xogium [~Xogium@LuminaSensum/founder/Xogium] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T08:02:07 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T08:32:50 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@2620:10d:c090:400::5:c57c] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-10T08:54:10 < kaki> dd 2022-08-10T09:13:17 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-10T09:39:37 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-10T10:26:33 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-10T10:27:06 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T10:38:15 < catphish> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd 2022-08-10T10:43:17 < Steffanx> Early catphish 2022-08-10T10:44:18 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T10:51:41 < catphish> early 2022-08-10T10:53:17 < Steffanx> Very early 2022-08-10T10:53:23 < Steffanx> Or late. Maybe. 2022-08-10T11:33:19 -!- colorado [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-10T11:33:41 -!- colorado [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T11:50:01 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T12:17:27 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-10T12:34:58 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T12:57:34 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106d4e2cb4a7fa7.vn.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-10T12:58:37 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106d4e2cb4a7fa7.vn.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T13:47:44 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T14:40:22 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-10T14:41:19 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T14:41:44 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-10T14:42:00 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T14:45:50 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-10T15:01:57 < qyx> kaki: what oes it mean, no more interested? 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2022-08-10T22:54:12 < kaki> how is catphish with his project void? 2022-08-10T23:01:02 < Steffanx> no innovations. i saw a real windmill though. 2022-08-10T23:37:45 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:8c94:68da:503b:9e7f] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-10T23:45:01 < kaki> is lurencer building the train for HS2? 2022-08-10T23:49:58 < qyx> fellow ircers, is 10base-t1l mature enough? 2022-08-10T23:50:02 < qyx> should I try and fail? --- Day changed to elo 11 2022 2022-08-11T00:05:35 < karlp> I remember being disgusted by the competing connectors still and deciding to ignore it again. 2022-08-11T00:06:02 < qyx> nah M12 2022-08-11T00:07:24 < qyx> but SJA1105 is unavailable and there is no other reasonable alternative with 5x MII/RMII 2022-08-11T00:09:06 < zyp> -t1l is probably great if you actually need the distance 2022-08-11T00:09:44 < zyp> I'm still more interested in -t1s with multidrop 2022-08-11T00:10:10 < qyx> do you know you have to decide which one is the coordinator in t1s? 2022-08-11T00:10:23 * qyx was reading some docs recently 2022-08-11T00:11:06 < zyp> can't it elect one automatically? 2022-08-11T00:11:09 < qyx> also, check ADIN2111 for t1l "multidrop" 2022-08-11T00:11:54 < zyp> hmm, spi mac is a bit meh 2022-08-11T00:12:06 < zyp> although that allows using mcus without builtin mac 2022-08-11T00:12:08 < qyx> it is apparently the new standard 2022-08-11T00:13:59 < karlp> yeah, multidrop, plus Power over DataLine shit sounds way rad, t1s for me, but still connector hell hole. 2022-08-11T00:14:00 < zyp> I suspect that for a bunch of stuff, CAN-FD would still be a better fit 2022-08-11T00:14:09 < karlp> eyah, but then can... 2022-08-11T00:14:27 < karlp> t1s you use plain old IP. ... (and then enjoy the hell hole of embedded ip stacks...) 2022-08-11T00:14:33 < zyp> indeed 2022-08-11T00:14:53 < zyp> I'm tempted to do laks/ip soon 2022-08-11T00:15:25 < karlp> lol. 2022-08-11T00:15:44 < qyx> I'll go with fdcan 2022-08-11T00:15:53 < qyx> I have a protocol ready and working for it 2022-08-11T00:16:01 < qyx> so no Ip stacks this time 2022-08-11T00:16:17 < zyp> I picked up some cheap relay card from aliexpress with ethernet and rs485 and I'm thinking about doing modbus/tcp on it, including relaying to modbus/rtu 2022-08-11T00:30:59 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-11T00:41:16 < karlp> so I bought this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002965789645.html 2022-08-11T00:41:36 < karlp> and the magnet positioning for the shutoff/standby when you place it in the cradle is fucked. 2022-08-11T00:41:57 < karlp> where it rests in the cradle isdetected as "picked up" and you have to slide it weirdly forwards where it won't rest, to turn it off. 2022-08-11T00:42:01 < karlp> so that's awesome... 2022-08-11T00:42:17 < karlp> definitely not the same quality level as aixun :) 2022-08-11T01:20:05 < karlp> https://imgur.com/a/3dCM0tu 2022-08-11T01:22:43 -!- e-snail [~pete@user/e-snail] has quit [Quit: Gateway shutdown] 2022-08-11T01:26:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-11T01:45:05 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:8c94:68da:503b:9e7f] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-11T01:53:18 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T01:53:28 < Laurence_b> lol hyperboss blew the megawatt invertor 2022-08-11T01:53:33 < Laurence_b> its toast 2022-08-11T01:53:52 < Laurence_b> the heatsink is cratered 2022-08-11T01:55:20 < Laurence_b> muh legacy simulink codez 2022-08-11T01:55:52 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:8c94:68da:503b:9e7f] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T01:56:49 < Laurence_b> we were running 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sanity 2022-08-11T12:34:04 < catphish__> it does seem things are getting better 2022-08-11T12:35:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-11T12:35:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T12:38:14 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T12:43:29 < Steffanx> So better buy everything you need, before china invades Taiwan 2022-08-11T12:53:42 < Mangy_Dog> :/ 2022-08-11T13:09:51 -!- kreg [~kreg@iqoqi060.uibk.ac.at] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T14:11:47 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T14:36:36 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:8c94:68da:503b:9e7f] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T14:48:26 < karlp> ahh, it's goign to be a good day, adding goto's to new code... 2022-08-11T15:17:15 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 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or add subclasses to provide defaults, blah blah blah 2022-08-11T18:41:07 < zyp> the fuck are you doing where you don't know if a class has an attribute? 2022-08-11T18:43:14 < karlp> calling an optional method. they're all wxNotebook pages. 2022-08-11T18:43:39 < karlp> I just provided a stub on all pages, all good. 2022-08-11T18:44:03 < karlp> but I reguarly run into with optional shit, and it's annoying adding self.blah = None in the top level __init__ all the time 2022-08-11T18:44:35 < zyp> just stub out the interface in a parent class and inherit and override what you need 2022-08-11T18:45:01 < karlp> eyah, I _could_ make my own intersposer parent class, but fuck that, 2022-08-11T18:45:24 < karlp> it's just somethign that's super easys in lua, and totally not in python 2022-08-11T18:51:16 < srk> you could make __getattribute__ do the same thing as in lua, ie return false when not found 2022-08-11T18:51:37 < zyp> None is more appropriate than False 2022-08-11T18:51:41 < srk> sounds 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the file i need to poke around is 239GB :( 2022-08-11T22:09:05 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@188.126.173.142] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-11T22:09:08 < drzacek> hello there 2022-08-11T22:10:53 < qyx> did you try vim 2022-08-11T22:11:06 < drzacek> what ide for stm8? 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theory all good? 2022-08-12T10:37:44 < PaulFertser> drzacek: check the docs for the particular nucleo board, they usually have schematics 2022-08-12T10:38:21 < PaulFertser> drzacek: on the boards I have there're two jumpers to disconnect SWD lines from the target and a dedicated header to connect to another board. 2022-08-12T10:39:18 < PaulFertser> drzacek: and yes, SWD is still available on some header on the board after you break it off. 2022-08-12T10:40:40 < PaulFertser> drzacek: proper standalone stlink measures target voltage and reports that to programming software, that's sometimes very handy. Not sure whether nucleo stlink can do that before you break it off. 2022-08-12T10:42:18 < PaulFertser> drzacek: talking about clones, j-link clone should be much better than any stlink clone (stlink doesn't support raw JTAG and has some other limitations). Also, keep in mind stlinkv3 is apparently broken by design and somehow doesn't work with any non-ST parts. 2022-08-12T10:50:47 < catphish__> drzacek: yes you can use the nucleo as a programmer *without* breaking it off, there's a jumper than disconnects it from its twin 2022-08-12T10:53:16 < catphish__> for a very long time, the nucleo was the only programmer i had, it's a super convenient way to get started with the platform 2022-08-12T10:55:16 < PaulFertser> jlink clone is no worse in that regard I'd say. 2022-08-12T10:55:30 < PaulFertser> Or even FTDI JTAG with resistor hack. 2022-08-12T10:55:42 < PaulFertser> But nucleos are nice for the price, I agree. 2022-08-12T10:56:57 < Xogium> aren't nucleos having mostly unsoldered pins you gotta solder yourself ? 2022-08-12T10:57:28 < catphish__> no 2022-08-12T10:57:59 < Xogium> huh... Really 2022-08-12T10:58:02 < catphish__> they come with a ton of header pins and sockets 2022-08-12T10:58:09 < catphish__> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcToxdQcNN8rkjGgSHNAJg_3nKE07v3jNysa6Oni30i068T2NVqB5P0&usqp=CAc 2022-08-12T10:58:40 < Xogium> I'll be damned. I thought they didn't for some reason 2022-08-12T10:59:02 < catphish__> in fact all headers are soldered out of the packet :) https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81EKNlvGY1L._SL1500_.jpg 2022-08-12T10:59:43 < Xogium> now if I could of course just find things to connect that don't require actual soldering of course, that would be nice. Adafruit is shipping every damn thing they make with the headers unsoldered, I practically stopped buying from them 2022-08-12T11:00:22 < catphish__> you really should learn to solder, header pins are insanely easy to solder 2022-08-12T11:00:28 < catphish__> like, the easiest possible thing 2022-08-12T11:00:47 < catphish__> and while it is mildly inconvenient, it's a 10 second job 2022-08-12T11:01:26 < Xogium> not when you're blind 2022-08-12T11:01:48 < catphish__> well i can see that being a problem 2022-08-12T11:01:58 < catphish__> the other thing about the nucleo is that the inner set of header sockets is designed to be arduino shield compatible 2022-08-12T11:02:09 < catphish__> i've never tried it with an arduino shield, but might be useful 2022-08-12T11:02:22 < Xogium> yeah there's that 2022-08-12T11:02:48 < Xogium> I also thought about converting all the regular pins to grove, but I didn't find any grove shield for the nucleos 2022-08-12T11:02:55 < PaulFertser> Hey Xogium you still didn't teach that helpful girl to solder? 2022-08-12T11:02:59 < Xogium> probably because there are so many varients of them 2022-08-12T11:03:30 < Xogium> PaulFertser: oh, she left. We got one heck of a disagreement 2022-08-12T11:03:40 < Xogium> she really hurt me 2022-08-12T11:03:58 < PaulFertser> Xogium: otoh, apparently you're now well enough to not need her, so that's some good news too. 2022-08-12T11:04:28 < Xogium> yeah... I suppose as long as my friendship will last ;) 2022-08-12T11:04:52 < Xogium> one of my friends moved to my residency so he lives literally in the building facing me 2022-08-12T11:05:03 < PaulFertser> So he can solder for you 2022-08-12T11:06:01 < PaulFertser> Soldering 2.54 mm headers is really a no-brainer even for someone who does gender studies or something like that. 2022-08-12T11:06:29 < Xogium> besides I'd not say I'm well. I mean, it's more that I just can't handle being taken care of and try to do things on my own still, even if its getting harder 2022-08-12T11:07:56 < Xogium> I'm used to being independent and it is difficult to realize I'm not as good as before let alone letting it go 2022-08-12T11:14:33 < PaulFertser> Tough times 2022-08-12T11:14:40 < Xogium> yeah 2022-08-12T11:14:52 < Xogium> cancer on top of it all... My life is so much fun 2022-08-12T11:28:35 < drzacek> really? st-linkv3 no talking to non-stm stuff? like, not talking to NOT stm (other brands), which it clearly isn't made for, or not talking to "clone" stm32 chips, like gd or whatever they have there as knock-of in the market right now? 2022-08-12T11:29:26 < drzacek> from what I saw on my nucleo here (l452re-p), there's ton of jumper pads I could solder/desolder, depending on what I would like to do, aka if I want the power to come from stlink part or not, the clock lines etc 2022-08-12T11:33:04 < drzacek> but they can be ignored, since the headers are already there 2022-08-12T11:34:33 < drzacek> a different question - is there something like a 2.54mm spaced clip? I have those nice devboards that don't have headers on it, and I would like to keep it this way - once I am done with learning/trying out, the final project can be so much more compact with wires soldered directly to the board, instead of those bulky pin headers 2022-08-12T11:35:18 < drzacek> so a springy crocodile clip that would grab 4/6/10 pins and exposed them to either pin header or screw terminal, or could plug to breadboard, would be cool 2022-08-12T11:35:37 < drzacek> I know there are smaller programming clips for fine pitch, but those aren/t 2.54mm, also pricy 2022-08-12T11:38:14 < PaulFertser> drzacek: I wouldn't be surprised if stlinkv3 could talk to gd32f103 and the likes, but I do not know for sure. What I do know is that they artificially limited it so it's not useful for nrf52, lpc and other cortex-m MCUs. 2022-08-12T11:39:58 < drzacek> right, I think that applies to the v2 too (got a clone v2 somewhere too) 2022-08-12T11:41:07 < drzacek> I think it's because the stm32jtag is propietary and not compatible with the standard, but everyone used the SWD instead anyways, and that - again - is specific to stm? 2022-08-12T11:41:26 < drzacek> but the other question I have - the stlink can't program/debug stm8 microcontrollers, right? 2022-08-12T11:42:44 < jpa-> stlink talks fine to GD32 2022-08-12T11:42:54 < jpa-> ah, v3, not sure 2022-08-12T11:42:58 < jpa-> i guess i'm still on v2 2022-08-12T11:45:57 < zyp> drzacek, https://bin.jvnv.net/file/sn8v1.jpg 2022-08-12T11:46:16 < drzacek> zyp, cant open? 2022-08-12T11:46:42 < zyp> open harder 2022-08-12T11:47:50 < jpa-> all them pixels 2022-08-12T11:48:42 < drzacek> okay, I see it. had to open on my phone, looks like work firewall blocks it 2022-08-12T11:48:50 < drzacek> yeah this looks good 2022-08-12T11:50:18 < zyp> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001409579446.html 2022-08-12T11:56:29 < PaulFertser> drzacek: no, v2 has no limitations, and with newer firmware it even provides direct DAP access. 2022-08-12T11:57:05 < PaulFertser> drzacek: some (many?) stlinks can talk to stm8. 2022-08-12T12:07:14 < drzacek> wait 2022-08-12T12:08:58 * drzacek looks in the forgotted drawer 2022-08-12T12:09:21 < srk> /33 2022-08-12T12:09:55 < drzacek> https://imgur.com/a/DZOKBjZ apparently some do 2022-08-12T12:13:05 < drzacek> but I think those on nucleo board don't? 2022-08-12T12:17:20 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-12T12:17:28 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T12:20:55 < jpa-> drzacek: you can get STM8 nucleo, those at least can 2022-08-12T12:23:09 < jpa-> https://www.st.com/resource/en/schematic_pack/nucleo-8l152r8_sch.pdf looking at the schematics the SWIM pin just needs a few resistors, so i guess you could hack it also 2022-08-12T13:10:21 -!- oz4ga [~tim@hator.sunsite.lv] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 2022-08-12T13:11:26 -!- oz4ga [~tim@hator.sunsite.lv] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T13:22:07 < Xogium> kind of OT but, what can make a computer decide it doesn't like the ram you put in it if it is ddr4 like your other sticks or ram ? 2022-08-12T13:22:15 < Xogium> *of ram 2022-08-12T13:23:00 < Xogium> tried to add some here, pressed on it gently until I heard the tab closing, powered it up and, beeeeeep beep beep. Thank you buzzer 2022-08-12T13:24:06 < Xogium> I love having an actual beeper in my pc case :D 2022-08-12T13:25:35 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T13:26:20 < oz4ga> If it's the same speed, wait states and channel counts like the rest of the ram try to reseat it. I experienced something simmilar monday. The new RAM wasn't properly seated.. I had to pull it out and put it in again 2022-08-12T13:27:55 < Xogium> I see 2022-08-12T13:28:26 < Xogium> yep I inserted it multiple times and it still did this 2022-08-12T13:28:55 < Xogium> I thought that if it was properly seated the tab would close, so a closed tab indicates properly inserted ram 2022-08-12T13:30:35 < oz4ga> then pull the old sticks out and try the new ones alone. If the computer boots using the new ram, the 2 sets aren't compatible after all 2022-08-12T13:30:46 < Xogium> oh, good idea 2022-08-12T13:31:40 < Xogium> this is ram someone gave to me, so it might not be compatible 2022-08-12T13:31:53 < Xogium> the one in my pc is 3000 mhz 2022-08-12T13:32:18 < Xogium> I mean, the one it came with 2022-08-12T13:33:46 < PaulFertser> Xogium: two tabs, not one. 2022-08-12T13:35:11 < Xogium> PaulFertser: huh huh I keep reading that, but somehow my asus prime b450-plus has only one tab 2022-08-12T13:35:45 < Xogium> and yes, that did weird me out 2022-08-12T13:36:46 < drzacek> haven't happened to me yet, and I mixed the ram bars sometimes, but apparently some rams are not mobo/chipset compatible, and sometimes are not compatible with different sticks - might work separately but not together? 2022-08-12T13:37:08 < drzacek> nowadays I try to put exact same models just to be sure tho 2022-08-12T13:37:45 < karlp> Xogium:it has two tabs in the pictures on asus website... 2022-08-12T13:37:52 < drzacek> also, it might be worth noting, that some mobos expect using certain slots, like if you have 2 sticks, then instead slot 1 & 2 it wants slot 1 and 3 2022-08-12T13:37:54 < Xogium> I know 2022-08-12T13:38:11 < Xogium> but try as I might, the left side isn't possible to open 2022-08-12T13:38:27 < Xogium> its not a moving part 2022-08-12T13:38:38 < karlp> well.... this may be related to the ram not being recognised :) 2022-08-12T13:38:59 < karlp> the _pcix/agp whatever slots only have one tab.. 2022-08-12T13:39:23 < Xogium> hmm 2022-08-12T13:39:43 < Xogium> but I'd think that if I added ram in a wrong slot, surely it wouldn't have fitted in to the point the tab even closed ? 2022-08-12T13:39:48 < Xogium> I'm kind of confused 2022-08-12T13:40:04 < karlp> well, I've had one tab close and the other tab not close properly before, and it beeps and doesn't boot 2022-08-12T13:40:13 < Xogium> strange 2022-08-12T13:40:17 < karlp> "push harder" on inserting the ram sticks was all I did ... 2022-08-12T13:40:34 < karlp> if the tabs aren't fully open, it won't insert either. 2022-08-12T13:42:44 < Xogium> yeah that makes sense 2022-08-12T14:02:49 < zyp> I have a motherboard with tabs on only one side of the ram sockets 2022-08-12T14:03:08 < zyp> one side have regular tabs, other side have some small spring loaded stuff 2022-08-12T14:03:43 < zyp> consistent with «the left side isn't possible to open» 2022-08-12T14:05:32 < zyp> they look like this: https://static.tweaktown.com/content/5/2/5262_16_asus_p8z77_v_premium_intel_z77_motherboard_review.jpg 2022-08-12T14:06:46 < karlp> looking at the pics of xog's motherboard, teh two ends do look different: https://www.asus.com/media/global/gallery/bviopiMhqNF9qTdQ_setting_xxx_0_90_end_1000.png 2022-08-12T14:06:54 < karlp> might be the same style, same vendor at least... 2022-08-12T14:07:12 < karlp> still, beeping on post sounds like not seated properly. 2022-08-12T14:07:27 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:f18b:a48e:e2d7:8a1e] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-12T14:07:58 < karlp> just got bitten by python treating 0 as false, after getting used to lua's nil is false, 0 is "truthy" because it's a set value. 2022-08-12T14:08:00 < PaulFertser> Or bad RAM stick 2022-08-12T14:08:11 < karlp> need to remember the "is None" instead of just "if field" 2022-08-12T14:08:40 < zyp> sounds like lua is all sorts of fucked up 2022-08-12T14:09:00 < karlp> oh, I've been confused by it in lua before too, but you get reallllly used to it. 2022-08-12T14:09:11 < zyp> I don't *want* to get used to it 2022-08-12T14:09:17 < zyp> nor the 1-based array indices 2022-08-12T14:10:35 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-12T14:10:50 < PaulFertser> Xogium: on the pictures the other (immovable) tab clearly has a notch where the RAM stick goes while the normal tab is solid. I have no idea how one should be inserting the stick with that "springy weird tab" though. 2022-08-12T14:11:10 < drzacek> Xogium, I am looking at your mobo pics, and it looks like you have 4 slots, and they have different colours. so if you use 2 sticks, you don't want to put them in adjacent slots, only in first and third (or second and fourth, depending on how you count/who you ask) 2022-08-12T14:13:17 < Xogium> right but I wanted to fill all 4 of them 2022-08-12T14:14:10 < drzacek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9fQE6mssvg 2022-08-12T14:14:13 < drzacek> ah, sorry 2022-08-12T14:15:28 < drzacek> so it does have only one tab that opens, the other side is solid 2022-08-12T14:15:57 < Xogium> right. So I'm not mad. Not just yet, at any rate 2022-08-12T14:16:01 < Xogium> :D 2022-08-12T14:16:42 < drzacek> breathe! count to 5! 2022-08-12T14:17:06 < Xogium> :D 2022-08-12T14:17:08 < drzacek> can you identify the ram sticks? make, model, speed? XMP profile? 2022-08-12T14:17:33 < drzacek> also, guys in ##hardware might be of more help 2022-08-12T14:17:48 < Xogium> but I just noticed something using lshw, clock speed of the ram is 2133 mhz. So much for getting a pc built with 3000 mhz ram, heh ? 2022-08-12T14:18:44 < PaulFertser> Xogium: you can do "dmidecode | nc termbin.com 9999" to show exact information about your motherboard as your UEFI sees it. 2022-08-12T14:20:25 < Xogium> PaulFertser: https://termbin.com/4nqu 2022-08-12T14:20:29 < Xogium> have fun :D 2022-08-12T14:24:06 < PaulFertser> I hope that answers the question about model and speed, XMP profile can probably looked up at the manufacturer's web site. 2022-08-12T14:27:03 < Xogium> yeah :) thanks 2022-08-12T14:35:59 < Xogium> hmm I think trying to insert that new ram made my pc angry enough that the bios must have reset the xmp profile or something to try to make it work 2022-08-12T14:36:26 < Xogium> I checked logs from a year ago and it did show 3000 mhz 2022-08-12T14:38:20 < milkylainen> or if your bios can't figure out what would be resonable between the different xmp profiles it would probably go stupid mode. 2022-08-12T14:38:45 < Xogium> yeah 2022-08-12T14:39:11 < milkylainen> eg. jedec standard. 2022-08-12T14:43:00 -!- catphish__ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-12T14:53:11 < oz4ga> boot --bios-mode=stoopid :) 2022-08-12T14:54:05 < Xogium> yeah that 2022-08-12T15:10:44 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-12T15:11:25 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T15:12:48 -!- parties72 [~parties72@185.102.217.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-12T15:13:40 -!- parties72 [~parties72@185.102.217.195] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T15:18:12 -!- parties72_ [~parties72@213.152.165.98] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T15:18:38 -!- parties72 [~parties72@185.102.217.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-12T15:42:36 < drzacek> I think the XMP profile stuff is first gonna be relevant if it boots to bios 2022-08-12T15:42:42 < drzacek> if it just beeps, then xmp doesn't matter 2022-08-12T15:43:16 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-12T15:44:00 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T15:49:00 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-12T15:50:29 < Xogium> makes sense 2022-08-12T15:50:41 < Xogium> but not sure when bios is reached, tbh 2022-08-12T15:51:17 < Xogium> maybe when the fan speed settles down 2022-08-12T15:52:29 < PaulFertser> It's not even BIOS anymore for many years. It's a UEFI implementation. 2022-08-12T16:03:56 < specing> uefi is just stupid 2022-08-12T16:04:06 < PaulFertser> The very first stage (iirc it's called PEI) is uploaded to CPU's cache and runs from there. It then proceeds with memory initialisation and training (fine-tuning each data line). And it's part of full UEFI image. 2022-08-12T16:04:16 < Mangy_Dog> uefi is only as supid as the people who choose waht to break out and config for 2022-08-12T16:04:23 < specing> it went from hogging the first 512 bytes to requiring a certain partition layout and configuration 2022-08-12T16:04:29 < specing> it's a downgrade 2022-08-12T16:04:30 < PaulFertser> specing: yeah, it's bloated shitware. I'd say it's better than BIOS in many regards though. 2022-08-12T16:04:41 < specing> PaulFertser: just use coreboot if you have the option 2022-08-12T16:04:49 < PaulFertser> specing: indeed 2022-08-12T16:05:10 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T16:06:10 < PaulFertser> specing: I'd disagree about the first 512 bytes though. The legacy boot was fragile and most bootloaders need more than 512 bytes so they have to store it somewhere etc etc. Requiring GPT and an EFI System Partition doesn't feel stupid or limiting in any way. 2022-08-12T16:06:41 < specing> PaulFertser: yeah, but it only required those 512 bytes, the rest was up to your setup 2022-08-12T16:07:42 < PaulFertser> specing: so it was a mess when you wanted to have multiple OSes. 2022-08-12T16:08:55 < PaulFertser> And you couldn't choose which bootloader to boot directly from BIOS. With UEFI you can just select between the boot options on a single hard drive. 2022-08-12T16:21:56 < Xogium> okay changed ram sticks and those work. Maybe the other ones are bad 2022-08-12T16:22:02 < Xogium> Mem: 46Gi 3,2Gi 41Gi 11Mi 1,8Gi 43Gi 2022-08-12T16:22:08 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-12T16:23:03 < Xogium> as it turns out, trying to compile wpewebkit with all 16 threads and running a vm at the same time on 32 gb of ram = bad idea 2022-08-12T16:23:40 < specing> PaulFertser: I could choose it in GRUB 2022-08-12T16:23:51 < specing> same as now, except that now GRUB is part of system firmware 2022-08-12T16:23:57 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T16:28:43 < PaulFertser> specing: in legacy boot times if you installed any other OS it would overwrite GRUB. 2022-08-12T16:30:00 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T16:30:15 < specing> s/any other OS/windows/ 2022-08-12T16:30:18 < specing> let's be real 2022-08-12T16:30:40 < specing> it was not "legacy boot" that was the problem, it was windows 2022-08-12T16:33:17 < PaulFertser> specing: windows installer is stupid, no arguing that. But the idea that everybody should be happy with grabbing first 512 bytes and running it in 16-bit real mode doesn't sound like something with proper architecture and flexibility. 2022-08-12T16:33:58 < specing> the earliest it can hand over to grub, the better 2022-08-12T16:35:16 < PaulFertser> specing: how exactly is EFI boot problematic for you? You hate GPT and FAT or what? 2022-08-12T16:35:47 < specing> yes, it's just useless stuff that you have on disks 2022-08-12T16:36:11 < Xogium> well far as I'm concerned, uefi bios or grub or whatever bootloader, they are all not usable when you can't see 2022-08-12T16:36:49 < specing> PaulFertser: I think I have a machine or two that are capable of EFI, but they both work in legacy mode 2022-08-12T16:36:52 < specing> straight to grub 2022-08-12T16:37:26 < PaulFertser> specing: ok 2022-08-12T16:37:27 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:e135:71a4:3365:908] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T16:37:53 < PaulFertser> Xogium: proper UEFI implementations have serial console 2022-08-12T16:38:09 < PaulFertser> GRUB does too. 2022-08-12T16:38:31 < specing> "proper" 2022-08-12T16:38:34 * specing laughs 2022-08-12T16:39:57 < Xogium> PaulFertser: well... I kind of don't have serial 2022-08-12T16:40:04 < drzacek> do you guys confuse efi and uefi? or I do? 2022-08-12T16:40:22 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-12T16:40:29 < PaulFertser> You can enable serial in UEFI on server motherboards to have "serial over LAN" with BMC. And I think some desktop boards support that too. UEFI is a complex shitty standard and no wonder that motherboard vendors can't do the right thing (neither they managed to do anything sane in BIOS times). 2022-08-12T16:41:23 < PaulFertser> Xogium: good motherboard should have serial for serial console I'd say. And then you can connect another computer that would read out what it receives over serial. 2022-08-12T16:42:10 < Xogium> oh, I mean, physically I have serial 2022-08-12T16:42:18 < Xogium> a com port, at any rate 2022-08-12T16:42:29 < Xogium> but it gives nothing until the early linux boot up messages 2022-08-12T16:50:57 < PaulFertser> Xogium: you can easily configure GRUB to give its menu there. 2022-08-12T16:51:38 < Xogium> is it not supposed to pick this up from the hardware ? I'm confused 2022-08-12T16:56:56 < PaulFertser> Xogium: it depends on the distro I guess. E.g. Debian by default generates GRUB config for graphics mode. But it could as well use EFI console or serial ports + computer display directly. 2022-08-12T16:57:32 < Xogium> oh 2022-08-12T16:57:44 < PaulFertser> I think RHEL defaults to EFI console so you get GRUB menu via Serial over LAN on servers. 2022-08-12T16:57:45 < Xogium> I,, dig some more in there 2022-08-12T17:44:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-12T18:37:26 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@206.12.14.83] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T18:53:56 -!- parties72_ [~parties72@213.152.165.98] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-12T18:55:16 -!- parties72 [~parties72@185.102.217.195] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T18:55:39 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@206.12.14.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-12T18:56:02 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@2620:10d:c090:400::5:44a1] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T19:01:34 -!- parties72 [~parties72@185.102.217.195] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-12T20:12:35 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@2620:10d:c090:400::5:44a1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-12T20:24:11 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@2620:10d:c090:400::5:4980] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T20:45:02 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@188.126.170.207] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T20:45:26 < drzacek> okay, so I got a compiler (sdcc), editor (notepad) and stlink with swim pin 2022-08-12T20:45:57 < drzacek> what I don't have is a way to flash it. the "flash loader demonstrator" expect uart bootloader, not the swim/stlink 2022-08-12T20:47:09 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T20:47:22 < drzacek> https://github.com/vdudouyt/stm8flash dont see any releases/binaries here, so looks like I need to compile it from scratch (on win10) 2022-08-12T20:54:38 < karlp> openocd? 2022-08-12T20:55:06 < karlp> openocd -f interface/stlink.cfg -f target/[stm8l152.cfg stm8l.cfg stm8s003.cfg stm8s103.cfg stm8s105.cfg stm8s.cfg] .... 2022-08-12T20:57:50 < drzacek> no way 2022-08-12T20:58:45 < karlp> yes way... 2022-08-12T20:58:57 < Steffanx> The way. 2022-08-12T21:00:21 -!- karlp [karlp@palmtreev6.beeroclock.net] has quit [Quit: one more time.] 2022-08-12T21:04:07 -!- karlp [karlp@palmtreev6.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T21:11:17 < karlp> description of repository, "Makefile project for...." project contains zero makefiles, is a cmake project... 2022-08-12T21:12:17 -!- brazuca20 [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:e135:71a4:3365:908] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T21:13:53 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-12T21:13:56 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:e135:71a4:3365:908] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-12T21:27:00 < drzacek> boo 2022-08-12T21:27:14 < Xogium> boo ? 2022-08-12T21:27:58 < PaulFertser> drzacek: openocd supports stm8 2022-08-12T21:28:12 < drzacek> that's good to know 2022-08-12T21:28:23 < drzacek> gonna be my backup if the stm8flash not gonna work 2022-08-12T21:28:32 < PaulFertser> drzacek: uefi is modern standard that's based on efi afaict. 2022-08-12T21:28:56 < PaulFertser> And executables for it are called "EFI applications". 2022-08-12T21:29:26 < PaulFertser> drzacek: what's wrong with openocd? 2022-08-12T21:29:27 < drzacek> already forgot mentioning that 2022-08-12T21:34:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T21:41:55 -!- turnip420 [~machinehu@2620:10d:c090:400::5:4980] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5] 2022-08-12T21:52:41 < invzim> time to get with the times - will stm32cubeIDE mess up my existing truestudio/j-link? 2022-08-12T21:53:13 < mawk> no, why? 2022-08-12T21:53:17 < mawk> it has its own workspace and all 2022-08-12T21:53:22 < mawk> it won't mess with other eclipses 2022-08-12T21:53:37 < invzim> allreet, I'll give it a whirl then 2022-08-12T21:54:47 -!- brazuca20 is now known as brazuca 2022-08-12T21:55:55 < Xogium> maybe it mess up with the solar or lunar eclipse 2022-08-12T21:56:00 * Xogium hides 2022-08-12T22:00:50 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T22:01:06 < catphish> morning 2022-08-12T22:23:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T22:24:20 < drzacek> okay, after some struggle (and alt-tabbing between cmd and gothic2) I got openocd to install, and I think I can start it 2022-08-12T22:24:59 < drzacek> openocd -f interface/stlink-dap.cfg -f target/st8s103.cfg -> that seems to start the "server" or whatever it is (sorry, noob here) 2022-08-12T22:26:19 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-12T22:26:19 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-12T22:27:53 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-12T22:42:42 < PaulFertser> drzacek: yes, it does. 2022-08-12T22:43:03 < PaulFertser> drzacek: you can add attach to it with gdb and "load" elf from there, and then debug. 2022-08-12T22:43:06 < drzacek> now trying to find out how to use it for flashing 2022-08-12T22:43:18 < drzacek> how do I get elf from ihx 2022-08-12T22:43:20 < PaulFertser> Or you can attach with telnet and try "program /path/to/elf" 2022-08-12T22:43:36 < PaulFertser> drzacek: how did you get ihx? Wasn't it converted from elf? 2022-08-12T22:43:45 < drzacek> sdcc outputs that 2022-08-12T22:44:09 < drzacek> ah, I can tell sdcc to output elf 2022-08-12T22:48:11 < drzacek> http://paste.debian.net/1250204/ need to check tomorrow why it fails 2022-08-12T22:48:17 < drzacek> sleepy today 2022-08-12T22:58:45 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@188.126.170.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-12T23:58:15 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Day changed la elo 13 2022 2022-08-13T00:59:54 < karlp> fucking rust https://paste.jvnv.net/view/hyl28 2022-08-13T01:14:27 < qyx> I was expecting a photo of a rusted summer house roof 2022-08-13T01:24:02 < specing> karlp: you need a larger trunk for all that cargo 2022-08-13T01:35:41 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-13T01:44:34 < karlp> rust... kinda did everything it coudl though, "rustup update" updated it all in place, and their editions shit lets newer stuff target older stuff nicely, but then the tool that has a tickbox for my hardware for "working"... didn't afterall. 2022-08-13T01:45:08 < karlp> so ... rewired, done a bunch of shit, and now vendor code, with vendor bsp _also_ fails on my hardware. it runs, but I get no bluetooth ads. 2022-08-13T01:45:20 < karlp> so.. I knew I had non-ideal antenna, but I wasn't expecting.... _nothing_ 2022-08-13T01:45:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-13T01:45:36 < karlp> this will be fun to try and figure out then I guess. 2022-08-13T01:46:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T01:54:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-13T01:55:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T02:14:16 < karlp> fucking lcsc threw away half my cart when I logged in. thanks 2022-08-13T02:38:16 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2022-08-13T02:39:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T02:44:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-13T02:45:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T02:52:09 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-13T03:14:29 < mawk> Suppose that P is the least degree polynomial with integer coefficients such that P(√11 - √7) = 4(√11 + √7). 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2022-08-13T19:47:20 < qyx> I want to buy some cheapo new stuff 2022-08-13T19:47:22 < qyx> https://eleshop.eu/uni-t-utg932e-function-generator.html 2022-08-13T19:47:41 < qyx> and this cool PSU with LCD https://eleshop.eu/owon-spe3102-power-supply.html 2022-08-13T19:47:49 < qyx> I expect it to be trash, I'll see 2022-08-13T19:48:12 < qyx> they say it is very good for beginners, so it fits 2022-08-13T19:49:49 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-13T19:56:42 < Steffanx> Yeah, i order there once in a while, but then on eleshop.nl since its a dutch shop. 2022-08-13T19:57:34 < qyx> k, so legit 2022-08-13T19:57:48 < Steffanx> yeah 2022-08-13T19:57:50 < qyx> they calculated 13 € shipping 2022-08-13T19:58:22 < qyx> super cheap 2022-08-13T20:02:31 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-13.cgn.sunrise.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T20:31:44 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-13T20:33:06 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T20:38:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@047-034-172-219.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T21:11:46 < karlp> eleshop.eu is totally kegit 2022-08-13T21:14:31 -!- englishman [englishman@user/englishman] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T21:15:08 -!- englishman [englishman@user/englishman] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-13T21:16:00 -!- englishman [englishman@user/englishman] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T21:44:23 -!- polprog [~ath0@user/polprog] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-13T21:46:57 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-13.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-13T21:48:45 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@188.126.173.142] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T21:51:18 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T21:53:42 -!- invzim [~perole@vv.kirurg.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2022-08-13T22:01:36 -!- \dev\ice_ is now known as \dev\ice4 2022-08-13T22:01:39 -!- \dev\ice4 is now known as \dev\ice 2022-08-13T22:01:51 -!- \dev\ice [~eabdb@2a01:4f8:1c1c:2178::1] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-13T22:01:51 -!- \dev\ice [~eabdb@user/device/x-9920846] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T22:05:43 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T22:05:56 < jpa-> yeah, no complaints about eleshop; owon was crap but that's not eleshop's faul 2022-08-13T22:14:05 < drzacek> hello there 2022-08-13T22:14:15 < drzacek> I was able to flash the stm8 with openocd 2022-08-13T22:14:42 < drzacek> apparently it didn't liked the windows-style paths, needed to do C:\\Path\\tofile\\blinky.elf 2022-08-13T22:28:23 < mouseghost> binky.elf 2022-08-13T22:28:24 < oz4ga> qyx: you can get the same function generator from banggood. shipping is less than 2€ to .dk https://www.banggood.com/UNI-T-UTG932E-UTG962E-Function-Arbitrary-Waveform-Generator-Signal-Source-Dual-Channel-200MS-or-s-14bits-Frequency-Meter-30Mhz-60Mhz-p-1708357.html?cur_warehouse=CZ&ID=530531&rmmds=buy 2022-08-13T22:28:45 < mouseghost> oz4ga, wait didnt banggood disappear some time ago? 2022-08-13T22:29:51 < oz4ga> I didn't notice that. There was a DNS bann on them here in Denmark because they apparently sell stuff that can be dangerous according to our laws 2022-08-13T22:31:12 < oz4ga> I don't go there that often, so they could have disappeared temporarily without me noticing it 2022-08-13T22:37:35 < qyx> yeah but I have to do import and customs in that case 2022-08-13T22:42:02 < oz4ga> qyx: no no. they ship from .cz- They handle vat and everything 2022-08-13T22:42:32 < oz4ga> qyx: no import fuss to eu 2022-08-13T22:44:45 < qyx> hmm 2022-08-13T22:47:23 < qyx> oh free shipping to .sk 2022-08-13T22:48:16 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T22:48:40 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-13T22:49:31 < oz4ga> qyx: Even if they ship from China, they handle alle the import fuss. They collect vat. The stuff hopefully shows up at you door or in your parcel shop as any other mail parcel 2022-08-13T22:50:23 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@188.126.173.142] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-13T23:08:13 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-13T23:08:18 < PaulFertser> How does Denmark enforce bans? 2022-08-13T23:26:03 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-13T23:43:01 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-13T23:44:48 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T23:57:16 -!- Ecco [~user@lfbn-idf1-1-1530-116.w90-90.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T23:57:42 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-13T23:59:26 -!- jadew [~rcc@user/rcc] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Day changed su elo 14 2022 2022-08-14T00:03:15 -!- Ecco [~user@lfbn-idf1-1-1530-116.w90-90.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-14T00:03:33 -!- Ecco [~user@lfbn-idf1-1-1530-116.w90-90.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T00:05:39 -!- Ecco [~user@lfbn-idf1-1-1530-116.w90-90.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-14T00:05:45 -!- Ecco_ [~user@lfbn-idf1-1-1530-116.w90-90.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T00:11:20 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T00:16:08 < karlp> that owon is a nice price, given how much a ka3005p costs these days. 2022-08-14T00:28:09 < zyp> karlp, did you get one of the rd60xx supplies? 2022-08-14T00:32:07 -!- jadew [~rcc@5-12-154-218.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T00:52:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-14T01:16:59 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T01:17:23 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-14T01:31:11 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-14T01:43:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@047-034-172-219.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-14T02:23:28 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@arcanum.force9.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2022-08-14T02:43:35 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-14T03:11:58 < karlp> yeah, I've got a 6012p 2022-08-14T03:12:09 < karlp> works fine? I'm not a heavy user honestly. 2022-08-14T03:12:37 < karlp> I've just been setting up a home "lab" slowly, instead of relying on driving into the office for shit. 2022-08-14T03:13:30 < karlp> fairly happy with the UI, the rattly case assembly doesn't seem to actually matter in practice, it kinda just sits on my desk... 2022-08-14T03:14:02 < karlp> but i have a korad 3005p at work, and it's also totally a fine supply. 2022-08-14T03:17:14 -!- mouseghost [~draco@user/mouseghost] has quit [Quit: mew wew] 2022-08-14T03:23:40 < karlp> I paid for the wireless addon, and have tested it to the point of "works" but no heavy reliabilty testing or anything,m I'm not using it on a production line for automation or anything. 2022-08-14T03:24:19 < karlp> I've been using the ka3005p with some low vol automation, via sigrok python bindings, and it's worked super fine, never been an issue. 2022-08-14T03:36:57 < catphish> musics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uLPDWz9t6Y 2022-08-14T04:39:24 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-14T04:48:15 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-14T05:29:40 -!- Luggi09498284764 [~lux@ip5b426bc8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-14T05:30:25 -!- Luggi09498284764 [~lux@ip5b426bc8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T05:52:37 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-14T06:08:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T06:18:38 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T07:37:35 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T07:37:35 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-14T07:39:08 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-14T10:27:37 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T10:42:39 -!- dreamcat4 [uid157427@id-157427.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T10:56:08 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T10:56:08 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-14T10:57:41 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-14T11:06:14 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-14T12:32:51 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@arcanum.force9.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T12:43:07 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T13:34:54 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T13:39:22 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has quit [Quit: Whop whop] 2022-08-14T13:45:16 -!- Steffanx- [uid97872@2a03:5180:f:5::1:7e50] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T14:10:11 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-14T14:20:09 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T16:12:28 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T16:30:14 < karlp> lol, wch bsp for uart1/2/3/4 has four files. the files are identical, with s/UART1/UART2/ throughout... 2022-08-14T16:30:31 < karlp> super neat... I sure hope they're generated from some other source... 2022-08-14T16:30:59 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-14T16:35:26 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T16:35:29 < Laurence_b> https://twitter.com/NeilDotObrien/status/1557236449786957824 2022-08-14T16:35:34 < Laurence_b> >not socially useful 2022-08-14T16:35:39 < Laurence_b> thats where ur wrong 2022-08-14T16:36:08 < karlp> hrm, a joinpaste. gonna bet that's not worth opening... 2022-08-14T17:11:09 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-14T17:12:09 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T17:12:11 < karlp> hrm, I like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004274562210.html 2022-08-14T17:15:55 < englishman> wow, innovation 2022-08-14T17:16:50 < BrainDamage> ohhh https://www.analog.com/en/products/adum3165.html#product-overview 2022-08-14T17:16:52 < BrainDamage> finally 2022-08-14T17:17:03 < BrainDamage> usb 2 chip isolation 2022-08-14T17:17:24 < karlp> there was another one a month or two ago? I think TI just launched one too? 2022-08-14T17:17:31 < karlp> we were talking about I thought. 2022-08-14T17:17:45 < BrainDamage> missed that 2022-08-14T17:17:46 < karlp> ISOUSB211 2022-08-14T17:17:54 < karlp> got mailouts at home and work advertising it. 2022-08-14T17:17:56 < BrainDamage> thanks 2022-08-14T17:18:12 < karlp> even got it's own youtube feature video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYhgvmLdc3I 2022-08-14T17:18:46 < karlp> kinda fun to see two vendors finally launch in the same year though.... 2022-08-14T17:19:31 < englishman> i wonder if it's some recent IP they both purchased. 2022-08-14T17:19:36 < karlp> I wonder if this was a patent licensing thing 2022-08-14T17:19:37 < karlp> yeah... 2022-08-14T17:19:41 < BrainDamage> I was about to say 2022-08-14T17:19:57 < BrainDamage> or if it's a fab spec that was published that allowed them to do it 2022-08-14T17:20:19 < englishman> they are both fab companies though. that's not my first assumption 2022-08-14T17:20:48 < englishman> maybe there is some intricate fab IP then? 2022-08-14T17:21:13 < englishman> i guess both companies are equally beholden to Cadence? 2022-08-14T17:21:15 < karlp> keep getting confused by skyworks turning up when searching for silabs. 2022-08-14T17:21:53 < karlp> yar, best/fastest silabs one is only 150Mbps still. 2022-08-14T17:22:42 < karlp> so.. rf question, I've clearly not got the "right" antenna on this pcb antenna design, ok, but I still expect to get _something_ out? 2022-08-14T17:22:59 < karlp> I get absolutely no signal at all that I can see with my phone 2cm away from it, 2022-08-14T17:23:22 < karlp> and I get ~-40dbm "strong" signal same distance from the devboard that is "similar" 2022-08-14T17:23:43 < qyx> no way to get absolutely no signal 2022-08-14T17:23:52 < karlp> thats what I would have thought 2022-08-14T17:23:56 < karlp> I can't work it out. 2022-08-14T17:23:58 < qyx> even on a bare pin 2022-08-14T17:24:43 < BrainDamage> yeah, thing's shorted or busted 2022-08-14T17:25:22 < BrainDamage> radios are stupidly sensitive, you'll get -60-80dBm dynamic range, that means that anything works as antenna to send a signal 2022-08-14T17:25:26 < BrainDamage> even an ic's pin 2022-08-14T17:26:35 < karlp> yeh, that's why I'm kinda miffed. I can't see anything obviously wrong with it. the vendor library startsup ok, though who knows if it really does any actual checks on things.. 2022-08-14T17:27:07 < karlp> I've copied their clock and power schematic, really not sure what's going on. 2022-08-14T17:27:24 < karlp> building up another board I guess, but.. fucking annoying 2022-08-14T17:27:24 < jpa-> does power usage change when it should transmit? 2022-08-14T17:27:57 < karlp> hrm, I guess I could do that. can compare with the working dev board too, 2022-08-14T17:28:13 < karlp> checking for it being shorted isn't very easy though, as it's a pcb inv-f, so it's connected to ground anyway. 2022-08-14T17:30:35 < jpa-> and even if it was direct shorted, chances are it would still transmit enough to detect, even though reception would be impossible 2022-08-14T17:31:00 < karlp> hrm, I wonder if the right most pin there isn't atually soldered down https://nc.beeroclock.net/s/MsFMmweWzjT5wSm 2022-08-14T17:31:28 < jpa-> two rightmost ones look suspect to me 2022-08-14T17:31:30 < karlp> I guess hitting that with some solder/air is first 2022-08-14T17:32:03 < jpa-> also: glad i'm not the only one with dirty boards, zyp's photos are always as if he lives in a clean room 2022-08-14T17:52:16 < karlp> I can't even see the dirt on that board 2022-08-14T17:53:55 < karlp> anyway, this will have ot wait til tonight, sunshine, time to get thekids outside a bit more. 2022-08-14T17:54:50 < qyx> are those vias 0.5 mm? 2022-08-14T17:55:11 < qyx> they are hure as the WCH's pin pitch 2022-08-14T17:55:15 < qyx> huge 2022-08-14T17:56:08 < karlp> vias are 0.3/0.6, wch is 0.4mm pitch 2022-08-14T17:57:11 < karlp> I guess I could change vias to 0.3/0.5 maybe. 2022-08-14T17:59:33 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T18:00:22 < karlp> fucking lol, thinnest solder I have at home is 1mm 2022-08-14T18:00:26 * karlp adds to the shopping list 2022-08-14T18:00:52 < qyx> drag solder it 2022-08-14T18:00:57 < qyx> the QFN I mean 2022-08-14T18:09:43 < karlp> meh, looks better now, still no luck. https://nc.beeroclock.net/s/pTQBnwL5o5DaTXT 2022-08-14T18:10:54 < jpa-> to me it looks unconnected still, but maybe it is just reflection 2022-08-14T18:11:20 < karlp> if I had solder in sma pigtails, could I use the vna on port 2 to jjust listen? or is that when you need the SA, not the VNA? 2022-08-14T18:14:57 -!- Steffanx- [uid97872@2a03:5180:f:5::1:7e50] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2022-08-14T18:17:17 -!- Steffanx- [uid97872@id-97872.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T18:20:15 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-14T18:23:58 < BrainDamage> yes, you can use the port2 to just listen 2022-08-14T18:24:24 < BrainDamage> you don't even need to solderd 2022-08-14T18:24:43 < BrainDamage> just twist the coax ends and make a tiny dipole, then hover it on the circuit 2022-08-14T18:25:29 < specing> spotted vooodoo 2022-08-14T18:28:10 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T18:40:09 -!- polprog [~ath0@user/polprog] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T18:50:41 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-14T18:56:49 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T18:58:06 -!- BrainDamage [~braindama@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T19:05:21 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-14T19:05:47 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T19:15:41 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-14T19:17:52 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-14T19:24:20 < Xogium> how do you guys even manage buying batteries for your projects ? I'm trying to eget my hands on a battery lipo or li-ion but every store I check has specific batteries like phone batteries, laptop batteries... I can't buy a battery from mouser either 2022-08-14T19:24:40 < Xogium> *get my hands 2022-08-14T19:25:05 < Xogium> adafruit has some interesting one that I could make use of... But can't get my hands on them either 2022-08-14T19:25:23 < qyx> I buy at TME ot nkon or gwl.eu 2022-08-14T19:25:27 < BrainDamage> if you don't need something compact, there's standard cell sizes 2022-08-14T19:25:52 < BrainDamage> like 18650 2022-08-14T19:26:18 < Xogium> BrainDamage: would be for pocket size device. Not hand held, but relatively large pocket probably 2022-08-14T19:26:52 < Xogium> doesn't require much power either 2022-08-14T19:27:27 < Xogium> qyx: do they sell protected sells or unprotected only and you are expected to protect them ? 2022-08-14T19:27:46 < BrainDamage> also, if you search for the '1S1P' term used by hobbist, you'll find pouches only 2022-08-14T19:28:02 < BrainDamage> without commercial devices polluting the results 2022-08-14T19:31:02 < Xogium> qyx: ah gwl.eu seems to sell lifepo4 only, not suitable here. The charger management on my board only handles 3.7v 2022-08-14T19:31:12 < Xogium> BrainDamage: good tip 2022-08-14T19:31:37 < Xogium> not to mention big as hell lifepo4 lol 2022-08-14T19:36:46 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T19:36:46 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-14T19:37:02 < jpa-> using a popular mobile phone battery size could be a good strategy also 2022-08-14T19:38:20 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-14T20:36:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-14T21:11:53 < PaulFertser> I'd vote for protected 18650. 2022-08-14T21:14:22 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T21:24:57 -!- Steffanx- [uid97872@id-97872.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2022-08-14T21:32:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-67-161-96-107.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T21:33:03 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-14T21:48:17 < Xogium> PaulFertser: isn't 18650 rather large ? I mean both capacity and physically 2022-08-14T21:50:59 < Xogium> I mean, I've seen 1800 mAh ~3500 mh. My chip on the board has this written: load capacity: 800 mAh 2022-08-14T21:52:01 < Xogium> maybe it doesn't mean what I think it means, because broken chenglish 2022-08-14T21:52:54 < Xogium> and then you gotta worry about polarity and.. Ugh 2022-08-14T21:53:00 < PaulFertser> Xogium: 18650 is cylindrical, 68 mm long, 16 mm in diameter. I'd say quite pocket-friendly. 2022-08-14T21:53:38 < Xogium> ah, I see 2022-08-14T21:53:59 < Xogium> a bit like an AA battery but a bit longer 2022-08-14T21:54:15 < PaulFertser> Thicker too 2022-08-14T22:07:44 < BrainDamage> 16650 is AA sized 2022-08-14T22:08:13 < Xogium> ah yes, I forgot there were 16650 2022-08-14T22:15:50 < catphish> never heard of 16650, lets stick with 18650 :) 2022-08-14T22:16:04 < catphish> 16650 seems like a recipe for dangerous mistakes 2022-08-14T22:20:25 < Xogium> hehe true, I suppose one could easily mix them up 2022-08-14T22:39:13 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-14T22:43:30 < qyx> 14500 is AA 2022-08-14T22:43:43 < qyx> 10440 AAA 2022-08-14T22:43:53 < karlp> yeah, something didn't sound right there, 18650s are way longer than AA, not just fatter. 2022-08-14T22:44:19 < karlp> and yeha, I actualyl reckon 18650s are a bit big sometimes. 2022-08-14T22:58:17 < catphish> ah ok, i didn't 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I was lazy and just set up a process on Linux which broadcast its id, changing it every few seconds. The id looks like "TIME:182530" :) 2022-08-15T21:50:49 < dima> poor man NTP 2022-08-15T22:34:18 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5cda:2e9e:6515:ab68] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-15T23:20:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [] 2022-08-15T23:21:59 -!- kaki [~kaki@37-33-5-131.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-15T23:28:43 < kaki> hello early crew 2022-08-15T23:32:28 < kaki> how do battery manufs come up with C-ratings for their cells? 2022-08-15T23:38:30 < upgrdman> testing? if it gets too hot or the voltage drops too much under load... 2022-08-15T23:38:46 < upgrdman> hobby battery C ratings are mostly made up tho 2022-08-15T23:39:34 < upgrdman> "20C" means that at 20C a fully charged cell will immediately dip to 3.0V, or something ridiculous like that 2022-08-15T23:40:33 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-15T23:41:33 < kaki> so C-ratings are just bs 2022-08-15T23:42:02 < kaki> "it kinda gets there in ideal conditions for 1seconds" 2022-08-15T23:42:03 < upgrdman> at least for hobby brands... yes 2022-08-15T23:42:31 < upgrdman> if the cells is made in a first-world country, they might provide a datasheet with real measurements 2022-08-15T23:44:57 < kaki> discharge grapsh 2022-08-15T23:45:01 < kaki> graphs 2022-08-15T23:46:23 < kaki> maximum current ratings --- Day changed ti elo 16 2022 2022-08-16T00:05:09 < kaki> how would you turn such graphs into single performance metric such as specific power? 2022-08-16T00:08:26 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-16T00:08:41 < kaki> maybe I could use discharge graph that is normalized to weight unit and combine that with series resistance and maximum allowed current 2022-08-16T00:09:00 < BrainDamage> there's normally a plateau region in the discharge curve 2022-08-16T00:09:06 < kaki> yes 2022-08-16T00:09:13 < BrainDamage> you use that value 2022-08-16T00:09:28 < kaki> :o 2022-08-16T00:09:47 < BrainDamage> it's not perfect, but it's pretty close to the real case 2022-08-16T00:10:07 < kaki> that's good idea 2022-08-16T00:10:10 < BrainDamage> because 80% of the discharge condition will be in that plateau region 2022-08-16T00:12:20 < kaki> plateau is even more significant with lifepo4 2022-08-16T00:14:37 < Xogium> speaking of lifepo4 lol I probably am unlucky as hell but I can't even find one that has a bms but no wire leads that I could just stuff in a holder 2022-08-16T00:16:06 < qyx> protected lifepo4? 2022-08-16T00:16:19 < Xogium> I was kinda hoping to stick a jst connector on the holder somehow, but all the smallish lifepo4 I saw have wire leads, or they come in a group like 1s3p but without bms 2022-08-16T00:16:31 < Xogium> I'm not sure using an unprotected lifepo4 cell is a smart idea 2022-08-16T00:17:11 < Xogium> I mean okay it resist to a lot more things than a lipo or li-ion, but, I'd thing you still need a bms of some kind 2022-08-16T00:17:20 < Xogium> *think 2022-08-16T00:18:41 < Xogium> I gave up on using lipo and plan on just trying lifepo4 or if I can't even manage that, good ol' AA batteries for my project 2022-08-16T00:19:20 < Xogium> so I'd use an external charger rather than use the chip onboard, since that one is designed for lipo 2022-08-16T00:19:43 < Xogium> finding a charger isn't the big problem, but finding a suitable lifepo4 sure is 2022-08-16T00:20:25 < Xogium> tbh the 1s3p is overkill :D it does 4.5A 2022-08-16T00:21:03 < Xogium> the 1.5A I saw would work fine, has a bms... But it has actual wire leads like a typical lipo, so I can't use a charger with that 2022-08-16T00:26:24 < machinehum> Something like this 2022-08-16T00:26:26 < machinehum> https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/MEAN-WELL/IRM-03-5?qs=NKmfXavxMazJdFbXlu0eDA%3D%3D 2022-08-16T00:26:38 < machinehum> Are there support components needed... there's nothing in the datasheet 2022-08-16T00:29:50 < upgrdman> UI/UX pros: what is this type of configuration user interface called? https://imgur.com/a/hR9jOxO ... a bunch of mutually exclusive buttons for quickly picking between lots of options, etc. 2022-08-16T00:29:51 < qyx> I used IRM and added nothing except a T 1A fuse 2022-08-16T00:30:12 < Xogium> qyx: irm ? 2022-08-16T00:30:28 < Xogium> sorry lol stands for MRI in my language 2022-08-16T00:30:29 < qyx> that was for machinehum 2022-08-16T00:30:33 < Xogium> ah 2022-08-16T00:30:34 < zyp> upgrdman, radio buttons? 2022-08-16T00:30:35 < Xogium> sorry 2022-08-16T00:30:55 < upgrdman> zyp, ya but i feel like there is a name for that type of overall design. 2022-08-16T00:31:29 < zyp> form with radio buttons? 2022-08-16T00:32:16 < machinehum> qyx: Cool 2022-08-16T00:32:28 < machinehum> That's what I assumed 2022-08-16T00:32:33 < machinehum> Nice little module 2022-08-16T00:34:00 < zyp> it's a bit big though 2022-08-16T00:34:16 < qyx> I used IRM-01 iirc 2022-08-16T00:34:21 < zyp> xp power got one that's 5W in a smaller package: https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/XP-Power/ECE05US05?qs=w%2Fv1CP2dgqorJnvxtshZgw%3D%3D 2022-08-16T00:34:26 < qyx> 25x40 mm, about 15 mm high? 2022-08-16T00:34:49 < zyp> yeah, compared to 25x25 :) 2022-08-16T00:35:37 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-16T00:36:04 < zyp> I used one in this thing: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/UWVtw.jpg 2022-08-16T00:36:47 < qyx> which ADc did you use for CTs? 2022-08-16T00:38:14 < qyx> also did you yolo PE? 2022-08-16T00:38:17 < zyp> atm90e32as 2022-08-16T00:38:45 < zyp> no PE in that setup 2022-08-16T00:39:32 < qyx> oh it is a specilised AFE for energy metering 2022-08-16T00:39:39 < zyp> yes 2022-08-16T00:39:48 < zyp> sitting in an isolated section 2022-08-16T00:39:48 < qyx> I remember that project briefly 2022-08-16T00:40:09 < zyp> yeah, it's the one I designed two revisions of controller board for and fabbed neither 2022-08-16T00:41:07 < qyx> k enough for today, I am struggling finding a suitable strain gauge ADC and I am losing any hope slowly 2022-08-16T00:51:13 < zyp> hx711 :p 2022-08-16T00:52:10 < catphish> kaki: box is nearly balanced https://i.imgur.com/t9NqqIK.png :) 2022-08-16T00:53:06 < catphish> nearly-ish, it's rather slow 2022-08-16T00:53:21 < kaki> have you drifted the box? 2022-08-16T00:54:03 < qyx> zyp: nowai 2022-08-16T00:54:09 < catphish> i haven't, but someone else did, in the workshop carpark before it was actually fully assembled 2022-08-16T00:55:13 < catphish> BMS will keep balancing until it gets to 10mV delta, probably another week to go, then i can properly test its range 2022-08-16T00:58:06 < qyx> zyp: actually its parameters are not that bad 2022-08-16T00:58:22 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T00:58:24 < zyp> bitbanging the protocol is a bit annoying 2022-08-16T01:03:56 < machinehum> zyp: That part is a lot smaller 2022-08-16T01:03:58 < machinehum> Thanks 2022-08-16T01:04:08 < karlp> ecellent ali images again https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1nCTwfIuYBuNkSmRyq6AA3pXaj.jpg 2022-08-16T01:04:31 < karlp> dima: what sort of level of sync were you trying to do though? 2022-08-16T01:05:02 < zyp> machinehum, twice as expensive though 2022-08-16T01:07:02 < kaki> catphish: have you shredded it once? 2022-08-16T01:07:21 < karlp> machinehum: the datasheet explicitly says, "Comply with  EN55032 Class B without any additional components" ? 2022-08-16T01:08:44 < machinehum> derp 2022-08-16T01:09:29 < machinehum> zyp: that's the catch I guess 2022-08-16T01:09:31 < dima> karlp: I have a battery-powered device which sleeps most of the time. When you press a button, it records the current time and display it on the eink screen. It does not have to be precise, just hours and minutes, but the internal clock is drifting by about a minute per week. After a few months the difference becomes significant. 2022-08-16T01:10:10 < karlp> yeah, that level of accuracy is no problem :) 2022-08-16T01:12:01 < karlp> you're using advertising from your linux? or connecting? 2022-08-16T01:12:10 < dima> I guess I could make it work with a couple of seconds tolerance. 2022-08-16T01:12:15 < dima> Just advertising 2022-08-16T01:12:45 < Xogium> one minute per week, ouch 2022-08-16T01:13:00 < Xogium> 44.8 minutes a year 2022-08-16T01:13:31 < dima> Xogium: Which planet are you on? 2022-08-16T01:13:44 < dima> here on Earth we have about 52 weeks per year 2022-08-16T01:13:55 < Xogium> want to know to fun part in my case ? I have this bad a drift... With an external LSE clock with a 32khz crystal 2022-08-16T01:13:59 < karlp> if you're advertising from linux, how are you ensuring that your battery powered device is awake to hear the ads? you're just yoloing and hoping it hears some soemtimes? 2022-08-16T01:14:22 < Xogium> dima: haha sorry, on earth but just extremely tired 2022-08-16T01:15:52 < catphish> kaki: i haven't shredded anything :) 2022-08-16T01:16:15 < dima> karlp: the device wakes up on each button press, or once a day if nobody pressed it. It syncs the time on every wakeup. 2022-08-16T01:16:32 < catphish> kaki: one problem i have is that it hasn't rained in UK since i finished the car, and all the weight is on the driven rear wheels, traction is incredible, i can't spin the wheels 2022-08-16T01:17:24 < catphish> i tried getting more torque out of it, but can't without overheating it, so for now i just make do, you can drive it sideways though :) 2022-08-16T01:17:30 < kaki> dry pavement temperature is big thing 2022-08-16T01:17:40 < Xogium> though in my defense, its past midnight so on tht note, I'm off to bed ^^ see y'all tomorrow 2022-08-16T01:17:51 < kaki> catphish: overheating what? 2022-08-16T01:18:03 < catphish> kaki: i've been testing it on very hot, very dry road surface 2022-08-16T01:18:24 < catphish> kaki: overheating the inverter, i have an 85C temperature limit on the IGBT bodies 2022-08-16T01:18:48 < kaki> what rate the temperature changes? 2022-08-16T01:19:04 < kaki> if you floor it from standstill 2022-08-16T01:19:26 < karlp> dima: so it wakes up and stays awake long enough to hear your linux advertiser? it's just permanently broadcasting? 2022-08-16T01:20:42 < dima> karlp: It takes a couple of second to refresh the eink display, that's enough time to get at least one advertisement packet. Yes, it is permanently broadcasting. 2022-08-16T01:20:50 < catphish> kaki: well that depends on the configuration, with my current configuration, a 36C rise in 6 seconds at full throttle 2022-08-16T01:21:03 < kaki> :o 2022-08-16T01:21:16 < catphish> kaki: but if i try to push more current, that number gets MUCH higher 2022-08-16T01:21:27 < kaki> 36C in 1seconds 2022-08-16T01:22:23 < kaki> how quickly it cools down? 2022-08-16T01:22:39 < kaki> how much temperature rise in cruise? practically 0? 2022-08-16T01:24:15 < catphish> basically none, but the difference in current between cruising and accelerating is pretty extreme, the difference between 50A and 400A 2022-08-16T01:26:15 < catphish> when i push up the voltage a bit, i got a 50C rise in 4 seconds :) 2022-08-16T01:26:53 < catphish> the cooldown speed is similar to the heatup speed 2022-08-16T01:27:59 < catphish> the heatsink is very small :( so this might be down to my coolant flow 2022-08-16T01:30:22 < catphish> kaki: here's one example of when i pushed a bit more current https://i.imgur.com/feUVHxQ.png 2022-08-16T01:30:58 < catphish> i don't know exactly what is causing this temperature rise, probably a simple function of the current flowing through the IGBTs, compared to my coolant flow 2022-08-16T01:31:12 < englishman> is it your own inverter or teslas? 2022-08-16T01:31:25 < englishman> i thought tesla stopped using igbts 2022-08-16T01:32:18 < karlp> dima: heh, glad that works for you. my requirements are a little tighter ;) 2022-08-16T01:32:29 < catphish> it's tesla, and i don't know, but this inverter is quite old so even if they did, they didn't remove them from existing cars 2022-08-16T01:32:53 < catphish> what would you use instead of IGBTs anyway? 2022-08-16T01:32:59 < karlp> GaN :) 2022-08-16T01:33:05 < karlp> get with the decade you. 2022-08-16T01:33:14 < karlp> so SiC... depending on which company english has shares in... 2022-08-16T01:33:30 < englishman> probably how they are able to push 700+ hp from the new ones 2022-08-16T01:33:44 < catphish> i've never even heard of GaN, and didn't know you could use SiC as a switch 2022-08-16T01:33:45 < catphish> cool 2022-08-16T01:33:46 < karlp> (is /me remembering the IGBT roadmaps?) 2022-08-16T01:34:00 * karlp is not a power nerd, just an irc troll sometimes. 2022-08-16T01:34:31 < karlp> but aiu, yeah, GaN and SiC are both because igbts are a hassle for manuf? 2022-08-16T01:34:47 < catphish> i'm pretty sure the problem here is that Tesla switch at 10kHz and i'm running their inverter at 17.6kHz, but i'm assured that running it at 8.8kHz causes unpleasant current transients 2022-08-16T01:35:29 < catphish> so i'm faces with a choice of 17.6kHz and generating nearly twice much heat as originally intended, or 8.8kHz and risk blowing it up 2022-08-16T01:35:55 < catphish> *faced 2022-08-16T01:36:28 < dima> karlp: I played with a DFC77 module before that, but it turned out to be very sensitive to the orientation of the antenna. It would not work for me, but if the signal is stronger in your area it might be worth a try. 2022-08-16T01:36:35 < catphish> i've tuned it to get pretty decent performance with the available temperature rise, but always annoyed i'm not able to get more 2022-08-16T01:39:06 < catphish> there's a pretty extensive account of my endeavour here https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2558 2022-08-16T01:39:30 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-16T01:41:14 < karlp> dima: ah, no. it's wayyyy too imprecise :) 2022-08-16T01:41:57 < karlp> I've currently implemented the DTS/DTP service/profile, but need to do some more on round trip timings to get the network time stable. 2022-08-16T01:42:15 < karlp> I'm targetting more like +-30usecs 2022-08-16T01:43:19 < karlp> well, as good as I can get physicalyl with my power budget is +-30usecs, so I'll probably have to suit myself at ~50 or so usecs, see how it goes. 2022-08-16T01:43:51 < karlp> prettysure I can't see DCF77 from here anyway, even if most of our customers would be fine with it. 2022-08-16T01:44:47 < karlp> i mean, yes, in theory you can sync super accuratly to the dcf77, but only if you're doing the serious analol phase shit. 2022-08-16T01:45:25 < karlp> but still, best possible case for all that is +-6usecs, and that's a prettttty big external dependency 2022-08-16T01:46:17 < karlp> anyway, I just found a mouser saved cart from 2015. 2022-08-16T01:48:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T01:58:47 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5cda:2e9e:6515:ab68] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T02:06:31 < Steffanx> BLE incl. Lunix can do that karlp? 30 us? 2022-08-16T02:06:48 < Steffanx> Now I have go look into how it works 2022-08-16T02:15:04 < karlp> Steffanx: well, I'm going to find out right :) 2022-08-16T02:15:27 < karlp> it's going to be some maths and ntp style network time estimations I presume. 2022-08-16T02:15:51 < karlp> it's why I'd love periodic advertising from bluez. it can. 2022-08-16T02:16:14 < karlp> regular advertising and ~everything in regular ble has built in random delay jittering, 2022-08-16T02:16:52 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:5cda:2e9e:6515:ab68] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-16T02:16:59 < karlp> I was plotting shit today, and it was nicely linear, with some pretty regular spikes, all of the same size, either spike of x, or spike of 2x. looks like retransmission delays. 2022-08-16T02:17:16 * karlp shrugs. too late for that shit, meant to be not working right now 2022-08-16T02:17:30 < karlp> trying to think what else mouser has while I'm over the free 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Or is that feature just reserved for stm32mp13? 2022-08-16T16:32:15 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-16T16:32:17 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T16:45:40 -!- rob_w [~bob@aftr-62-216-201-138.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T16:49:49 -!- rob_w_ [~bob@2001:a61:6121:7501:c142:9975:a6a3:dc2] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T16:51:44 -!- rob_w [~bob@aftr-62-216-201-138.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-16T17:08:11 -!- rob_w_ [~bob@2001:a61:6121:7501:c142:9975:a6a3:dc2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-16T17:20:13 < PaulFertser> Attn, innovators. 2022-08-16T17:20:44 < PaulFertser> GD32F450 drops some UDP packets when internal checksum checking is enabled. Russian article has more details: https://habr.com/ru/post/682172/ 2022-08-16T17:21:09 -!- rob_w_ [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T17:21:22 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn67.95-103-108.t-com.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-16T17:21:42 < karlp> broken hardware checksum ooffloading in network hardware... what a novel concept :) 2022-08-16T17:23:00 < karlp> that's.... quite a writeup 2022-08-16T17:29:23 -!- rob_w_ [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-16T17:33:19 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn67.95-103-108.t-com.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T17:37:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-16T17:38:37 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn67.95-103-108.t-com.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-16T17:40:27 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn67.95-103-108.t-com.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T17:45:32 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T17:54:15 < mawk> > Наверняка кто-то уже пошёл писать комментарий, что мы ничего не смыслим в UDP, там потери пакетов – это норма. Комментарии – это хорошо, комментарии я люблю. 2022-08-16T18:00:18 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-16T18:02:21 < Steffanx> Thanks mawk. 2022-08-16T18:05:10 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T18:10:26 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-16T18:18:14 < tct> Thanks mawk. 2022-08-16T18:18:45 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn67.95-103-108.t-com.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-16T18:18:59 < Steffanx> Privjet tct. 2022-08-16T18:22:47 < tct> how are you, my sweet stroopwafel? 2022-08-16T18:39:06 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-16T18:45:24 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn67.95-103-108.t-com.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-16T19:08:35 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-16T19:15:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined 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##stm32 2022-08-17T10:51:22 < zyp> karlp, are you running the cpu at 32kHz or something? 2022-08-17T10:55:39 < zyp> hmm, I'm mathing wrong, still curious 2022-08-17T11:17:09 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn187.95-103-22.t-com.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-17T11:19:15 < drzacek> 32khz? sounds slow 2022-08-17T11:24:45 < zyp> that's apparently the default clock 2022-08-17T11:24:59 < zyp> but you can't bitbang 1.7 MHz with 32kHz 2022-08-17T11:31:03 < qyx> 500 ns means he has 2 MHz at minium 2022-08-17T11:55:24 < drzacek> what device? 2022-08-17T12:25:45 < karlp> it's rurnning at 60Mhz, so yes, I was surprised. and it must be running at 60Mhz, because I ran timed systick counters from gdb, and got ~61e6 ticks reliably, and the baud rate divisors worked out too, based on 60MHz, so... yes. 2022-08-17T12:26:47 < karlp> zyp: I'll show you the code later, it was not remotely working so I didn't bother committing and pushing. 2022-08-17T12:27:42 < karlp> I got _some_ results, by dropping a GPIO::Pin instance, I'd been using a class member pin.On(), pin.off(), and it got _better_ (stillgarbage) with a raw GPIO.port[0].OUT = (1<<5) raw calls. 2022-08-17T12:28:03 < karlp> I had believed your c++ constexpr magic would have helped there, but perhaps it needed more constexpr sprinkles. 2022-08-17T12:28:24 < karlp> that's a weekend question at earliest now though, rest of the week is kinda blocked out already. 2022-08-17T12:56:11 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-17T12:58:15 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-17T13:05:08 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2022-08-17T13:05:33 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-17T13:40:42 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-17T13:42:01 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@user/sadale] has 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ColdKeyboard> I'm trying to erase 2K of STM32L051K6 (0x800F800UL) but I'm getting back an error from HAL_FLASHEx_Erase that it's failing at address 0x1FF... anyone havea clue where to start looking? 2022-08-17T22:07:55 < ColdKeyboard> *STM32L051K8 2022-08-17T22:10:26 < qyx> I would say 0x1ff is not on a 2K boundary 2022-08-17T22:15:36 < ColdKeyboard> This is the code I use -> https://pastebin.com/JUTTZ1YB 2022-08-17T22:16:00 < ColdKeyboard> I'm using 0x800F800UL for CFG_FLASH_ADDRESS_START 2022-08-17T22:23:08 < qyx> did you unlock the flash beforehand? 2022-08-17T22:24:30 < ColdKeyboard> Yeah I run HAL_FLASH_Unlock(); in the other function that is calling the erase 2022-08-17T22:45:55 < ColdKeyboard> I'm confused, do you have to pass one address to erase and then a different (+-1) to the write function? 2022-08-17T23:29:02 < ColdKeyboard> So for some reason, as soon as it enters HAL_FLASHEx_Erase() it hits 'status = FLASH_WaitForLastOperation(FLASH_TIMEOUT_VALUE);' and returns HAL_FAIL 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october, so yay, progress) 2022-08-18T13:40:12 < karlp> today: "we've shipped your order, here's the invoice" 2022-08-18T13:40:28 < karlp> wat? didn't expect that sort of speedup. I guess some people up th eline cancelled :) 2022-08-18T13:40:31 < englishman> nice 2022-08-18T14:16:10 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-18T15:18:42 < zyp> meanwhile I'm getting «your flight schedule has been updated», and they've moved the departure for a connection so it happens 30 minutes before the arrival 2022-08-18T15:19:19 < zyp> arriving 18:35 and departing 18:05 doesn't work so well 2022-08-18T15:20:47 < Steffanx> Lol. Well done. 2022-08-18T15:21:16 < zyp> I blame tct 2022-08-18T15:26:44 < Steffanx> Yes always blame tct. 2022-08-18T15:27:32 < Steffanx> So better get it fixed mr tct. 2022-08-18T15:27:48 < zyp> I called swiss, they got it fixed 2022-08-18T15:28:31 < Steffanx> Where's the trip going? 2022-08-18T15:28:39 < zyp> home 2022-08-18T15:28:58 < zyp> NRT-ZRH-OSL 2022-08-18T15:29:10 < zyp> except now it'll be going NRT-ZRH-CPH-OSL 2022-08-18T15:51:24 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T16:01:45 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-18T16:05:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-18T17:04:28 < karlp> lol, wsa carefully using 0.0f and float types, was using it to keep a timestamp with fractional seconds, 2022-08-18T17:05:10 < karlp> so far so good, was doign some request tracking and timing, didn't want to keep a 64bit ns or anything for other reasons (i have seconds and fractions separate for reporting) 2022-08-18T17:05:26 < karlp> except, when I set the time to present, all my maths started returning 0... 2022-08-18T17:05:38 < karlp> and then stepped in 64000 chunks... 2022-08-18T17:05:52 < karlp> turns out I had just blown through the 22bits of actual value in the float :) 2022-08-18T17:06:06 < karlp> don't remember having that problem before. 2022-08-18T17:06:43 < karlp> anyway.... now that I'v efixed the _diags_ shit, I can go back to what I wanted the diags _for_ 2022-08-18T17:27:47 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-18T17:40:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T17:47:52 < Steffanx> So hows BLE time syncing going karlp? 2022-08-18T17:58:57 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T18:07:45 < PaulFertser> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/japan-government-launches-competition-to-get-people-drinking-alcohol-drinks-tax-revenue 2022-08-18T18:09:03 < Xogium> what a... Totally crazy idea 2022-08-18T18:14:27 < karlp> Steffanx: eh, looks like it's going to work. 2022-08-18T18:14:52 < karlp> having some maths headaches, but... not too bad, drift is perfectly linear so far... 2022-08-18T18:15:09 < BrainDamage> what's your error tolerances? 2022-08-18T18:15:26 < karlp> "as good as I can get" 2022-08-18T18:15:45 < qyx> heh 2022-08-18T18:15:49 < BrainDamage> copypaste ntp? 2022-08-18T18:16:05 < BrainDamage> ptp requires hw timestamping in the mac layer 2022-08-18T18:16:07 < karlp> that's the general idea, yeah, well, ptp actually, but same concept. 2022-08-18T18:16:15 < Steffanx> and how good is it so far and also tested with some random rf disturbances ? 2022-08-18T18:16:31 < karlp> yeah, I can see the bt retransmissions nicely. 2022-08-18T18:17:02 < karlp> getting to <20ppm should be fine. 2022-08-18T18:18:10 < Steffanx> i want to see your codes, but its probably closed work sores? 2022-08-18T18:18:26 < karlp> the up spikes here are all 1x/2x units, and are the bt retransmissions per my interp: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/7T6pZ.png 2022-08-18T18:18:38 < karlp> slope is the drift from clock diff local vs target, 2022-08-18T18:18:46 < karlp> spikes down off the picture are a different issue... 2022-08-18T18:19:13 < karlp> yeah, this is all work shits, and the foundational magic all the rest is built on, so no, no sores today sorry. 2022-08-18T18:20:52 < Steffanx> Whats the unit of the y axis? 2022-08-18T18:20:57 < karlp> anyway, this afternoon's distraction is testing out low vf red leds 2022-08-18T18:21:04 < karlp> seconds. 2022-08-18T18:21:05 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-18T18:22:42 < Steffanx> Time to lower your connection interval a bit then and turn the spikes into mini spikes :P 2022-08-18T18:24:24 < Steffanx> *increase 2022-08-18T18:29:30 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:dd65:7ff5:b04:6229] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T18:42:01 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn187.95-103-22.t-com.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-18T18:43:14 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@bband-dyn102.95-103-53.t-com.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T19:02:12 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@2601:84:c701:9e00:492f:97a1:d277:ef8b] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T19:02:15 < bitmask> I'm a doofus 2022-08-18T19:02:25 < bitmask> whast pu gyus 2022-08-18T19:04:03 < bitmask> what would you doo hoo hoo 2022-08-18T19:04:11 < bitmask> for a klondike bar 2022-08-18T19:06:04 < Steffanx> Drugs are baaad mkay? 2022-08-18T19:07:57 < bitmask> heh 2022-08-18T19:07:57 < bitmask> so my blood pressure has been crazy high for a while now. I started taking medication and it barely does anything. been on it for months. 2022-08-18T19:08:04 < bitmask> I decided to do some light cardio 30 min a day and after a week my bp is basically normal 2022-08-18T19:08:23 < bitmask> hence why im a doofus 2022-08-18T19:09:38 < specing> drugs are excellent 2022-08-18T19:09:49 < bitmask> though its mostly my stomach and some laziness stopping me in the past, and my stomach has been good the past week or two which is rare but I just did said cardio and now my tum tum hurts 2022-08-18T19:09:49 < bitmask> and I didnt sleep last night 2022-08-18T19:11:26 -!- bitmask_ [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T19:11:27 < bitmask_> or just get kicked off 2022-08-18T19:12:12 < bitmask_> well back to my ECS coding 2022-08-18T19:12:19 -!- hexo [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-18T19:13:04 < Steffanx> Hows bitmask the game progressing? 2022-08-18T19:13:42 < bitmask_> i just started back up after a decent break 2022-08-18T19:14:17 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@2601:84:c701:9e00:492f:97a1:d277:ef8b] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-18T19:14:18 < bitmask_> also before the break I wasted a lot of time researching ECS systems 2022-08-18T19:14:32 < bitmask_> so now I'm just trying to get that implemented 2022-08-18T19:14:59 < bitmask_> what is steffan working on 2022-08-18T19:16:09 < bitmask_> ugh silverfish are so gross 2022-08-18T19:17:28 < Xogium> what's more gross than a silverfish ? A dead silverfish 2022-08-18T19:17:34 < Xogium> okay, that one was way too easy 2022-08-18T19:18:21 < bitmask_> i bought bug spray but Im thinking do I really want dead silverfish hidden around my room or do I want them to climb up the wall so I can smoosh them and throw their carcass in the trash 2022-08-18T19:18:42 < Steffanx> bitmask_ playing around with some ble stuff on nrf52/53 which nowadays uses zephyr and magic. 2022-08-18T19:19:02 < Xogium> Steffanx: zephyr as in the rtos ? 2022-08-18T19:19:10 < Steffanx> Oui Xogium 2022-08-18T19:19:32 < bitmask_> are you using the word magic figuratively or is it something real :P 2022-08-18T19:19:38 < Xogium> Steffanx: what's your opinon / experience on it ? My single limited experience proved that for stm32f7 dev kit, it was, well. Quite the joke 2022-08-18T19:20:08 < Steffanx> The OS doesnt look that bad to me, its just another rtos. The eco/build-system.. yeah needs some getting used to. 2022-08-18T19:20:20 < Xogium> lot of broken stuff, not yet implemented this or that 2022-08-18T19:20:46 < Xogium> ah yes, its a real mess 2022-08-18T19:20:59 < Steffanx> So far it looks rather complete to me, and where its not you can still use the nordic drivers. 2022-08-18T19:21:42 < Steffanx> And on stm32 is was pretty damn easy to get lvgl to work on an stm32f7something discovery. 2022-08-18T19:22:17 < Steffanx> Also getting it, the nrf52, lowish power seems rather easy. When you find the right configs. And that's the most difficult part because things change all the time. 2022-08-18T19:22:43 < Xogium> ah. Granted its been some time I toyed with other rtos than mbed, I should revisit this 2022-08-18T19:23:16 < Xogium> though I can't say mbed is a bad rtos, really. It seems to do a decent job 2022-08-18T19:23:36 < bitmask_> I miss embedded projects but I also don't... its nice not dealing with a bunch of crap physically connected to the laptop 2022-08-18T19:23:45 < Xogium> hehe 2022-08-18T19:24:57 < Steffanx> bitmask_: At the moment its just two usb cables here. 2022-08-18T19:25:06 < Xogium> that moment you forget you have some board connected and lift up the laptop only to watch part horrified as your board starts to move like a pendulum dangling from its connecting cable 2022-08-18T19:25:11 < Xogium> :D 2022-08-18T19:25:15 < Steffanx> nrf52 development kit and power analyzer. 2022-08-18T19:25:36 < Steffanx> Xogium: i dont mind when that happens. :P 2022-08-18T19:25:50 < Xogium> as long as it holds, eh ? 2022-08-18T19:26:07 < Steffanx> Exactly. And when it looks fine it is fine :P 2022-08-18T19:27:16 < Xogium> I once had something nasty happen to a board I just bought and felt quite angry at myself. Board cost me like $140 back in canada. It arrives, I take it out of the packaging, only to realize in the following fraction of seconds that it will fall and there's nothing I can do 2022-08-18T19:27:33 < Xogium> my hand list its grip on it at the worst possible time 2022-08-18T19:27:50 < Xogium> ground 1, board 0 2022-08-18T19:28:15 < Xogium> *lost 2022-08-18T19:29:00 < Steffanx> Shit happens 😅 2022-08-18T19:29:23 < bitmask_> best was when I was testing a simple project with a small motor for a magnetic stir plate and it spun up faster than I expected and I wasn't paying attention and had a loose magnet just stuck to the spinning bar. it shot off and flew right into my laptop screen 2022-08-18T19:29:32 < Xogium> it was a drop nasty enough that the board was damaged real bad. Kernel panics, memory errors, kernel lockups, cpu error, kernel oops, bootloader freeze, you name it, the poor thing probably had it 2022-08-18T19:29:32 < bitmask_> i know steffan remembers that one 2022-08-18T19:30:54 < Xogium> ouch, magnet on a screen... Sounds very bad indeed 2022-08-18T19:31:14 < bitmask_> yea, that was an expensive replacement 2022-08-18T19:31:31 < Xogium> I bet 2022-08-18T19:32:06 < Xogium> I figure if the screen breaks on a laptop you can't replace just that ? 2022-08-18T19:32:36 < bitmask_> its a macbook pro, I replaced just the screen 2022-08-18T19:33:06 < bitmask_> i mean it comes as an assembly so its fairly plug and play once you take the case apart 2022-08-18T19:33:24 < bitmask_> oh actually I think for this one it was the whole top clamshell part 2022-08-18T19:33:54 < Xogium> ah 2022-08-18T19:33:55 < bitmask_> i dont quite remember if it included the aluminum case backing or not 2022-08-18T19:34:01 < bitmask_> but everything else 2022-08-18T19:34:08 < Xogium> ouch 2022-08-18T19:34:16 < Xogium> yeah it still is not nice 2022-08-18T19:34:31 < bitmask_> nope, it cost like 400 or 500 2022-08-18T19:35:01 < Xogium> like all those people that build a pc for the first time and don't know a thing. They drop a screw and figure its not a problem, they can retrieve it later 2022-08-18T19:35:05 < Xogium> ... or not 2022-08-18T19:35:22 < milkylainen> hax. 2022-08-18T19:35:57 < milkylainen> Xogium: stm32mp1sign is done. 2022-08-18T19:36:24 < Xogium> or if you apply too much force when putting in ram, or don't put it exactly straight in. If you're unlucky enough you bend one pin in the socket just enough that it shorts 2022-08-18T19:37:04 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T19:37:04 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-18T19:37:29 < Xogium> milkylainen: woohoo ! Where's it ? What did you add since this morning ? I figure cleanups, mainliy 2022-08-18T19:37:35 < Xogium> *mainly 2022-08-18T19:38:37 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-18T19:39:11 < milkylainen> cleanups indeed. 2022-08-18T19:41:44 < Xogium> awesome 2022-08-18T19:41:53 < Xogium> no more need for cube programmer, yay 2022-08-18T19:43:18 < milkylainen> Well. Atleast not for signing. 2022-08-18T19:43:21 < milkylainen> :) 2022-08-18T19:44:59 < Xogium> yeah there's that 2022-08-18T19:45:34 < Xogium> the tsv layouts are useful but I've never managed to flip the DIP switch at the back of my board to access the DFU 2022-08-18T19:52:50 < karlp> Steffanx: nah, don't care about the conn interval spikes, I can easily discard them as outside bounds. 2022-08-18T20:17:23 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-18T20:44:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-18T20:44:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T20:48:08 < englishman> mawk: je partage donc avec toi cette tranche de vie québécoise. xogium tu pourrais l'aimer aussi lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvM1aqmjzxo 2022-08-18T20:51:06 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T20:51:23 < Xogium> englishman: ahahah this is funny 2022-08-18T21:03:54 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T21:57:41 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-18T22:07:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T22:14:21 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T22:35:39 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T22:49:37 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-18T22:49:54 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T23:18:56 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-18T23:19:24 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-18T23:24:50 < ColdKeyboard> Am I crazy or STMs HAL is mixing 7 and 8 bit addressing in their functions? 2022-08-18T23:25:09 < zyp> for i2c? 2022-08-18T23:25:20 < ColdKeyboard> I'm confused when they are expecting 7 vs when 8 bit address... I know this might be because you can use 7/10 bit addresses but it's confusing 2022-08-18T23:25:23 < ColdKeyboard> zyp yeha 2022-08-18T23:25:27 < ColdKeyboard> *yeah 2022-08-18T23:27:37 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone knows if the docs outline which function expects 7 vs 8 bit address? 2022-08-18T23:43:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-18T23:59:08 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed pe elo 19 2022 2022-08-19T00:09:21 < qyx> isn't the 8 bit address right aligned? 2022-08-19T00:09:37 < qyx> so being the same as the "7 bit" one? 2022-08-19T00:14:11 < Mangy_Dog> https://twitter.com/MD_Builds/status/1560374141739474951 2022-08-19T00:15:26 < zyp> qyx, 8-bit addresses typically have the r/w bit as the LSB 2022-08-19T00:18:47 < qyx> really? 2022-08-19T00:19:44 < qyx> I can't remember when did I shift bits for the last time 2022-08-19T00:19:57 < qyx> must have been on 68hc11 2022-08-19T00:26:34 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-19T00:28:02 < ColdKeyboard> Yeah, bits 7-1 are address and then LSB is Read/Write bit 2022-08-19T00:29:12 < ColdKeyboard> I'm confused since STM in some functions expects 8-bit address and then in some 7 bit address... so I guess I'll just have to trial and error until I figure out which one uses which address length. 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2022-08-19T12:38:00 < PaulFertser> Probably they also tried negative values, so it's not just 0, or else it would be a really strange way to express the issue. 2022-08-19T12:44:16 < karlp> having a "I tried to write -10, and it didn't do what write 65526" is a classic one too? 2022-08-19T13:17:55 < zyp> all that should be handled gracefully 2022-08-19T13:19:05 < zyp> just got another email from customer, turns out he didn't write it over actual modbus, but through the testing page in the webui 2022-08-19T13:20:27 < zyp> value there is already bounded to 0..65535, but what I forgot to check when receiving the json is whether it's actually an integer 2022-08-19T13:21:26 < zyp> he's writing stuff like 0.1 2022-08-19T13:23:15 < zyp> so that's making it into the register storage, and causes a crash later when something tries using the register value and can't handle floats 2022-08-19T13:31:11 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-19T13:31:35 < PaulFertser> Gotta love those dynamic languages 2022-08-19T13:41:30 < karlp> how did you write that into the data store, as a float smashed over two registers? how did the register store accept a float? 2022-08-19T13:41:43 < karlp> iot's been a long time since I've looked at pymodbus internals sorry. 2022-08-19T14:10:51 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-19T14:12:21 -!- milkylainen [~christian@static-212-247-174-226.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: fix] 2022-08-19T15:05:40 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T15:30:58 < zyp> I don't have a traditional store, I've got a custom slave context implementing setValues() and getValues() that gets mapped to properties with setters and getters to translate them directly to/from internal representation 2022-08-19T15:31:36 < zyp> and the webui calls straight into that 2022-08-19T15:32:05 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/wQNf1 2022-08-19T15:43:27 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-19T15:57:55 < karlp> right, ok then :) yeah, I've normally used ModbusSparseDataBlock or ModbusSequentialDataBlock 2022-08-19T16:08:18 < zyp> IIRC I looked at doing that first 2022-08-19T16:17:56 < zyp> two line fix, and a bunch of hassle working out how I got bitbake to build an update image 2022-08-19T16:35:53 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T17:03:52 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T17:16:28 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-19T17:27:27 -!- josuah [~irc@46.23.94.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-19T17:28:17 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-19T17:32:51 -!- josuah [~irc@46.23.94.12] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T17:34:08 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T17:56:19 < Steffanx> Daamn, jpa-. Are you out protesting on the streets yet? What your Prime Minister did is UNFORGIVABLE. 2022-08-19T17:59:07 < sauce> imagine having fun 2022-08-19T18:07:58 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-42-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T18:10:45 < Steffanx> Yeah. And you too kaki :P 2022-08-19T18:11:07 < kaki> yes hello 2022-08-19T18:11:25 < Steffanx> or perhaps "neither can you" 2022-08-19T18:12:50 < karlp> they'r eonly upset because she was in a group of more than 6 people, which is just un-finnish. 2022-08-19T18:16:56 < kaki> what you talkinabout 2022-08-19T18:17:22 < kaki> ah 2022-08-19T18:17:29 < kaki> PM? 2022-08-19T18:17:42 < PaulFertser> But could cocaine really have been involved? 2022-08-19T18:18:52 < Steffanx> Yeah why not. You and me can use it as well right? 2022-08-19T18:19:18 < kaki> PM = partying minister 2022-08-19T18:20:02 < englishman> haha 2022-08-19T18:20:29 < qyx> she is not that old, is she? 2022-08-19T18:20:42 < kaki> around 30 iirc 2022-08-19T18:20:53 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: I trust Eric Clapton's judgement, so no, I wouldn't and can't. 2022-08-19T18:20:59 < qyx> better than johnson or trump partying 2022-08-19T18:23:01 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: and one should certainly refrain from mixing it with alcohol or other drugs. 2022-08-19T18:25:22 < Steffanx> Im sure you can. Wouldn't i dont know. 2022-08-19T18:26:26 < Steffanx> And i dont know about Eric Clapton's judgement. 2022-08-19T18:26:43 < kaki> news link url 2022-08-19T18:28:40 < qyx> what news? about your elina? 2022-08-19T18:28:44 < qyx> marina, sorry 2022-08-19T18:28:57 < Steffanx> Almost. 2022-08-19T18:29:06 < Steffanx> Marin 2022-08-19T18:29:07 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_(song) 2022-08-19T18:29:55 < PaulFertser> Can't believe you do not know that. 2022-08-19T18:30:37 < Steffanx> Im totally not into this kind of music. 2022-08-19T18:35:53 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-19T18:39:37 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T18:40:09 < karlp> I think the drugs accusations are just opponents trying to score cheap points and turn it into a big deal. 2022-08-19T18:42:17 < specing> yes 2022-08-19T18:42:31 < kaki> maybe 2022-08-19T18:42:33 < specing> not just any opponents, but the opponents doing drugs themselves 2022-08-19T18:42:54 < kaki> :o 2022-08-19T18:42:59 < specing> yes 2022-08-19T18:43:13 < specing> caffeine/nicotine/alcohol are drugs, they just aren't illegal 2022-08-19T18:43:17 < specing> and most people are junkies 2022-08-19T18:43:35 < specing> and the lack any sort of self-reflection capability 2022-08-19T18:45:26 < PaulFertser> Originally junkie meant just opiate addict, so it's a bit more specific. 2022-08-19T18:46:41 < PaulFertser> See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkie_%28novel%29 2022-08-19T18:50:54 < specing> they* 2022-08-19T19:26:11 < Steffanx> You should have a talk with mawk, specing 2022-08-19T19:37:23 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-19T19:38:01 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T19:41:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T19:41:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Excess Flood] 2022-08-19T19:41:30 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T19:45:48 < mawk> specing: addiction is the pursuit of a behavior despite overwhelming negative consequences 2022-08-19T19:45:55 < mawk> caffeine doesn't really qualify 2022-08-19T19:45:59 < mawk> it's habit-forming, but few people are addicted 2022-08-19T19:46:01 < mawk> alcohol and tobacco, sure 2022-08-19T19:46:07 < mawk> there are overwhelming negative consequences for both 2022-08-19T20:20:36 -!- alan_o [~alan@172-7-159-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-19T20:26:46 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-19T20:30:52 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T20:35:47 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T20:57:55 -!- alan_o [~alan@172-7-159-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T21:23:26 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-19T21:27:46 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-19T21:40:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T21:52:08 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T22:04:50 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-86-195-181.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T22:05:11 -!- toluene [~toluene@user/toulene] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T22:42:14 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T23:11:24 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-19T23:24:11 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T23:45:30 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-19T23:48:52 < kaki> box 2022-08-19T23:50:47 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-86-195-181.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-19T23:58:07 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-19T23:59:00 < kaki> show the newest box 2022-08-19T23:59:07 < catphish_> i saw 2 tesla roadsters today, they're awesome 2022-08-19T23:59:18 < catphish_> my box no longer changes 2022-08-19T23:59:44 < kaki> you get more current? 2022-08-19T23:59:59 < kaki> doesn't inverter give 100% power 100% time? --- Day changed la elo 20 2022 2022-08-20T00:00:21 < kaki> sorry* torque 2022-08-20T00:00:37 < kaki> nominal torque of the motor 2022-08-20T00:00:59 < kaki> or did tesla design it to just give short bursts of torque? 2022-08-20T00:03:11 < kaki> 3seconds you are already at 100kph 2022-08-20T00:11:45 < catphish_> i played with my current, i have a bit more, it's ultimately limited by the current rating of the battery 2022-08-20T00:12:21 < kaki> what does the math say about torque? 2022-08-20T00:13:01 < catphish_> torque is pretty consistent across the rev range 2022-08-20T00:13:50 < kaki> yes 2022-08-20T00:13:55 < kaki> but how much you have 2022-08-20T00:15:18 < catphish_> i haven't calculated it 2022-08-20T00:16:25 < catphish_> but essentially, at full throttle, it always pushes 400-450A through the motor 2022-08-20T00:26:48 < kaki> you daily your box now? 2022-08-20T00:28:31 < catphish_> i don't drive daily, so the concept is moot 2022-08-20T00:28:51 < catphish_> i do drive it to the shops though, so i guess yes, temporarily 2022-08-20T00:29:19 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-20T00:34:32 < qyx> how does your wife like it 2022-08-20T00:39:47 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-20T00:42:45 -!- fluiD [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-20T00:55:52 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T01:04:19 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-20T01:07:08 < catphish_> she couldn't care less :) 2022-08-20T01:49:39 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T02:21:38 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T02:36:13 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-20T02:59:23 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T02:59:26 < Laurence_b> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimax#/media/File:Belte.png 2022-08-20T02:59:33 < Laurence_b> I solved EU energy issues 2022-08-20T03:00:22 < Laurence_b> build this across Oresund  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032122002003 2022-08-20T03:10:19 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-20T03:16:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-20T03:25:36 -!- Laurence_b [~Laurenceb@80.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-20T03:44:33 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T04:31:05 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-20T04:32:53 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-20T04:33:19 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-20T04:37:02 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T04:45:01 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T05:05:49 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-20T05:22:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T05:34:51 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T05:40:48 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-20T05:52:52 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-20T07:21:11 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-20T07:21:35 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T07:37:15 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-20T07:38:00 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T08:25:55 -!- oakyy [~oaky@h-155-4-161-203.A518.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T08:26:00 -!- oaky_ [~oaky@h-155-4-161-203.A518.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-20T08:41:36 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Got it working with a busy loop for delay, and now want to try FreeRTOS. What parameters do I use to fill out FreeRTOSConfig.h? 2022-08-21T03:53:32 < begriffs> The RTOS version of my program turns the LED on, but never turns it off again, like my blink() task never gets called. https://github.com/begriffs/stm32/blob/main/blink.c 2022-08-21T04:37:53 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-21T05:07:20 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-21T05:14:09 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T05:49:56 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-21T05:50:31 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. 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There's a lot of background knowledge I need to fill in to understand these options. Also to understand rcc_clock_scale like you're doing in your project 2022-08-21T17:26:42 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@031011131183.dynamic-3-poz-k-1-1-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-21T18:32:23 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@178-175-131-101.static.as43289.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-21T18:45:40 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-112.cgn.sunrise.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T19:16:45 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178.220.107.244] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T19:37:01 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-21T19:37:01 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T19:38:38 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-21T19:52:14 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-42-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T20:28:52 < kaki> hello ##cicada32 2022-08-21T20:32:17 < PaulFertser> How's your mopeding? 2022-08-21T20:33:58 < kaki> good 2022-08-21T20:34:14 < kaki> first day this year without gear 2022-08-21T20:34:19 < kaki> just a thin shirt 2022-08-21T20:34:46 < kaki> yesterday 2022-08-21T20:35:05 < kaki> in august - incredible 2022-08-21T20:40:44 < kaki> very hot day yesterday 28C 2022-08-21T20:45:49 < kaki> 5hour boat trip, boat camping, night sauna, swimming 2022-08-21T20:47:55 < Steffanx-> You like scraping your bones over the road kaki ? 2022-08-21T20:48:07 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-112.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-21T20:49:30 < kaki> I was the only rider without gear 2022-08-21T20:52:23 < kaki> soon it gets colder so I can get using full gear and really push it 2022-08-21T20:59:07 < Steffanx-> Lets hope it gets colder. I dont like current temperatures at all. 2022-08-21T20:59:33 < Steffanx-> Ok, current temperature is ok, but last week coming week.. meh 2022-08-21T21:00:07 < kaki> I like the temperatures but I'm a bit concerned what the temperatures and the changes in rainfall etc. mean 2022-08-21T21:03:26 < Steffanx-> Yeah its a little dry lately :P 2022-08-21T21:04:23 < kaki> and I heard cicadas heckin loud cicadas last night it was like landing to tropic 2022-08-21T21:04:49 < kaki> I have never heard cicadas in funlands 2022-08-21T21:05:35 < kaki> in abroad it's just the background noise of the night 2022-08-21T21:05:51 < Steffanx-> All i heard was crickets, but yeah.. 2022-08-21T21:06:25 < kaki> crickets are on ground and sing 247 or so 2022-08-21T21:06:41 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-21T21:07:06 < kaki> also crickets have this rhythm and changing notes 2022-08-21T21:10:50 < Steffanx-> I dont know about finnish crickets, but here you mainly here them in the evening, around sunset. 2022-08-21T21:12:13 < Steffanx-> *hear 2022-08-21T21:18:34 < kaki> maybe it was crickets 2022-08-21T21:18:37 < kaki> in trees 2022-08-21T21:33:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-21T21:47:44 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T22:36:55 < Steffanx-> maybe 2022-08-21T22:39:11 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@c-73-214-106-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-21T22:51:54 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-21T23:53:40 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] --- Day changed ma elo 22 2022 2022-08-22T00:06:39 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T00:24:41 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T00:28:47 < octorian> Is there any good way (from code) to detect whether the Vdda pin on an STM32L0 is correctly connected? My current "checkout firmware" for a PCB samples it with the ADC, and on boards where its good I get 3.3V, and on a board where its bad I get 2.5V (but the board otherwise works fine, since the main functionality doesn't depend on an accurate ADC) 2022-08-22T00:31:56 < PaulFertser> How do you get it bad while the other pins are good? 2022-08-22T00:33:45 < octorian> Missing component on the PCB 2022-08-22T00:34:40 < octorian> Its only bad in case of assembly error. But I'd still like to have a quick way of noticing that error beyond visual inspection. 2022-08-22T00:41:40 < PaulFertser> It's interesting it starts without Vdda, I thought it's mandatory for PLL and probably some other parts to work. 2022-08-22T00:46:15 < octorian> Yeah, it starts without Vdda. Kinda surprised me too. 2022-08-22T00:47:44 < octorian> The part is an STM32L072KZT6. And the only reason Vdda would be missing is an assembly error. Still, one of my boards has this error (the ferrite bead connecting it to Vdd is missing), so it was worth poking. 2022-08-22T00:50:25 -!- toluene [~toluene@user/toulene] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-22T01:01:44 < zyp> Vdda requirements varies from family to family 2022-08-22T01:03:03 < zyp> L072 datasheet states Vdda must be connected to Vdd 2022-08-22T01:04:10 < zyp> and further according to datasheet it does also supply the PLL 2022-08-22T01:04:56 < zyp> as well as «RC», which I assume is the internal oscillators like HSI 2022-08-22T01:05:53 < zyp> so presumably the only reason it still works is because it is actually at the 2.5V you measure, through some leakage path that's supplying enough current to drive the peripherals 2022-08-22T01:06:16 < octorian> Some leakage path is an entirely plausible explanation. 2022-08-22T01:06:44 < zyp> the datasheet later clarifies: It is recommended to power VDD and VDDA from the same source. A maximum difference of 300 mV between VDD and VDDA can be tolerated during power-up and device operation. 2022-08-22T01:11:02 < octorian> Vdd is 3.3V. The possible leakage paths include the USB pins, the SWD pins, and the UART pins. 2022-08-22T01:12:10 < octorian> Just to be clear, this is a "broken" configuration. I'm kinda surprised that the board worked too. 2022-08-22T01:13:14 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@178.220.107.244] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-22T02:43:04 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [] 2022-08-22T02:50:55 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T03:32:57 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-22T04:19:25 < unrznbl[m]1> Anybody fiddle with nuttx on stm32l432? I was playing around with making a Usb hid device (not fido2) out of a solo keys hacker edition device :) any other starting points suggested for a usb hid device firmware? 2022-08-22T04:19:51 < unrznbl[m]1> https://solokeys.com/products/solo-hacker 2022-08-22T04:31:39 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-22T04:35:40 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T06:04:55 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-22T06:09:39 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-22T09:01:00 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T09:38:01 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T09:48:27 -!- oakyy [~oaky@h-155-4-161-203.A518.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T09:48:31 -!- oaky_ [~oaky@h-155-4-161-203.A518.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T09:49:54 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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But I don't see the public half included into the fip? 2022-08-22T17:33:25 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T17:38:40 < milkylainen> Ah. I see. the aes256 hash of the public key is stored in the trusted key storage registers. :) 2022-08-22T17:38:45 < milkylainen> So nevermind. :D 2022-08-22T17:39:19 < milkylainen> So STM TF-A picks out the storage register for the hash of the ROTPK and compares it to OTP? 2022-08-22T17:42:27 < milkylainen> :) 2022-08-22T17:43:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-22T17:50:05 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~quassel@user/jak-o-shadows/x-5091859] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-22T18:08:37 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~quassel@user/jak-o-shadows/x-5091859] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T18:27:00 -!- fenugrec [~f@97.107.220.18] has quit [Quit: fenugrec] 2022-08-22T18:33:43 < qyx> aes256 has of the pk? 2022-08-22T18:33:46 < qyx> *hash 2022-08-22T18:48:13 < milkylainen> qyx: Or maybe just the public EC point. 2022-08-22T18:48:49 < milkylainen> qyx: I haven't really checked if they hash the pk and then extract it. Because the key given is just a EC private key. 2022-08-22T18:49:40 < milkylainen> Either way. Public half is considered somewhere and stored somewhere. :) 2022-08-22T18:50:23 < milkylainen> If I'd take a guess... It would be the sha256 hash of the EC point, the public part of the EC-key. 2022-08-22T19:19:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T19:24:02 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T19:25:31 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106d4e2cb4a7fa7.vn.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T19:36:27 < qyx> my curiousness was about the term "aes256 hash", you probably meant sha256 2022-08-22T20:34:33 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T20:36:34 < catphish_> is there a word for an algorithm that attempts to keep an output below a specified level by reducing an input? somewhat like a PID, but only working to keep input at or below a value 2022-08-22T20:46:26 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T20:50:27 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T20:53:40 < machinehum> What do you mean by reducing an input? 2022-08-22T20:54:12 < machinehum> How would an algorythm effect it's input 2022-08-22T20:54:44 < machinehum> https://www.leapfive.com/en/?page_id=4173 2022-08-22T21:30:51 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-22T21:33:46 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T21:38:29 < qyx> catphish_: a specifically tuned pid should not overshoot 2022-08-22T21:39:20 < catphish_> machinehum: you're right, i suppose i just mean manipulate the input 2022-08-22T21:40:47 < catphish_> machinehum: i see what you mean now, i'm using totally the wrong phrase, i just mean set an output, in this case an output that has a positive result on the input 2022-08-22T21:41:37 -!- fenugrec [~f@97.107.220.18] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T21:42:49 < machinehum> Like feedback? 2022-08-22T21:42:56 < catphish_> let me be more specific, an algorithm that takes a vehicle throttle input, and a battery current sensor, and outputs a modified throttle value that is reduced to keep the current within an allowed limit 2022-08-22T21:43:42 < qyx> uh a single if? 2022-08-22T21:43:51 < machinehum> Your throttle and battery current would combine to create one input 2022-08-22T21:44:36 < machinehum> Or you could have a dual input 2022-08-22T21:45:02 < machinehum> I don't know if there's a specific term for something like this 2022-08-22T21:45:10 < catphish_> a single input oscillates horribly 2022-08-22T21:45:24 < catphish_> is you want to make it even simpler: INPUT: current OUTPUT: throttle maximum 2022-08-22T21:45:41 < machinehum> Oh... 2022-08-22T21:46:20 < catphish_> the goal is to keep current less than 450A by backing off the throttle 2022-08-22T21:46:23 < machinehum> You're clamping your throttle 2022-08-22T21:46:23 < catphish_> without oscillating 2022-08-22T21:46:26 < catphish_> yeah 2022-08-22T21:46:59 < catphish_> i guess this is the same algorithm you'd use in a combustion engine to limit RPM 2022-08-22T21:47:09 < machinehum> It's like a governor 2022-08-22T21:47:10 < catphish_> as you approach the RPM limit, you reduce the throttle limit 2022-08-22T21:47:12 < catphish_> yes 2022-08-22T21:47:26 < machinehum> Seems reasonable... no idea what you would call that 2022-08-22T21:47:36 < catphish_> governer is a good word actually 2022-08-22T21:47:46 < catphish_> and gives some ideas about how it might work 2022-08-22T21:51:47 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-22T21:51:47 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T21:53:21 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-22T22:00:40 < zyp> catphish_, limiter? 2022-08-22T22:04:34 < zyp> IIRC in a traditional gasoline engine you typically pull ignition timing when you're approaching max rpm to limit how much power the car can make 2022-08-22T22:04:48 < zyp> and stop injecting fuel if that's not enough 2022-08-22T22:05:04 < zyp> or if you want more noise you can keep injecting but stop igniting it 2022-08-22T22:07:19 < catphish_> the question though is how much to retard 2022-08-22T22:07:37 < catphish_> and at what rate, to avoid oscillating 2022-08-22T22:07:55 < catphish_> of course traditional gas engine rev limiters *do* oscillate 2022-08-22T22:08:15 < catphish_> hence the phrase "bounce off the limiter" 2022-08-22T22:08:24 < catphish_> but i want to avoid this 2022-08-22T22:08:54 < catphish_> i want to set the throttle to stay as close to the limit as possible 2022-08-22T22:10:04 < catphish_> this is what happens when you do it badly https://openinverter.org/forum/download/file.php?id=17237&mode=view 2022-08-22T22:11:13 < catphish_> in this chart the blue line is the battery current that's supposed to be limited to 450, and the green/grey line at the bottom is throttle, which oscillates wildly 2022-08-22T22:12:35 < BrainDamage> I guess that the motor acting as a generator can make your system oscillate 2022-08-22T22:14:50 < catphish_> no, it's much simpler than that, the throttle gets reduced, so current gets reduced, and so current gets increased 2022-08-22T22:15:12 < catphish_> *the throttle gets reduced, so current gets reduced, and so throttle gets gets increased, so current increases again 2022-08-22T22:15:31 < catphish_> just a simple time delayed feedback causing oscillation 2022-08-22T22:16:46 < BrainDamage> wouldn't the delay there be on the order of milliseconds? the oscillation there seems to be in the of many seconds, unless that'sthe horizontal axis is samples 2022-08-22T22:17:28 < BrainDamage> if the delay is in the order of milliseconds, all you have to do is lowpass until the control loop bw is smaller than the resonance 2022-08-22T22:17:40 < BrainDamage> and I doubt ms delay in response will be noticeable 2022-08-22T22:39:12 < catphish_> the scale at the bottom is in us, the oscillations are around 10-20ms 2022-08-22T22:39:59 < BrainDamage> then, wouldn't a simple lowpass on the control loop prevent that? 2022-08-22T22:40:16 < zyp> catphish_, do you even have to make a closed loop controller for this? can't you just use a fixed throttle gain curve depending on the battery level? 2022-08-22T22:40:30 < catphish_> a low pass on the output will be my first solution to fix it i think, yes 2022-08-22T22:41:28 < catphish_> there's already a gain based on the battery level, it works fine, and in fact i don't advocate a closed loop solution at all 2022-08-22T22:41:31 < BrainDamage> I mean, I remember literally studying in control theory that if you can lowpass a delayed system to stabilize it, you should absolutely do because it's the formal way to fix it 2022-08-22T22:41:39 < catphish_> zyp: basically i agree with you entirely 2022-08-22T22:41:49 < catphish_> BrainDamage: thanks 2022-08-22T22:42:14 < zyp> BrainDamage, isn't the I term in a PID just a lowpass filter? 2022-08-22T22:42:28 < catphish_> zyp: no 2022-08-22T22:42:32 < BrainDamage> the I in a PID is a lowpass 2022-08-22T22:42:35 < BrainDamage> but the D isn't 2022-08-22T22:43:03 < catphish_> I isn't really a filter at all, it's an offset 2022-08-22T22:43:18 < BrainDamage> however "pratical" PIDs are more complex 2022-08-22T22:43:34 < catphish_> i guess the input is low passed to generate I, but that's not its purpose 2022-08-22T22:43:47 < catphish_> zyp: see the final paragraph here: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=44323#p44323 :) 2022-08-22T22:44:42 < zyp> :) 2022-08-22T22:45:48 < catphish_> the actual problem is this: openinverter only has a 2-point V/Hz curve 2022-08-22T22:46:31 < zyp> why not fix that rather than working around it? 2022-08-22T22:46:45 < catphish_> well the workaround is already there 2022-08-22T22:47:03 < zyp> why not fix that rather than fix the workaround? 2022-08-22T22:47:32 < catphish_> well i agree with you 2022-08-22T22:48:19 < catphish_> this post describes my problem if you're interested, which you are :) https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=44255#p44255 2022-08-22T22:52:21 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-22T22:52:55 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T22:56:35 < catphish_> oops, laptop battery died 2022-08-22T23:04:19 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-22T23:05:10 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T23:25:35 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-22T23:30:23 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-22T23:35:12 -!- Ad0 [~Ad0@93.124.245.194] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-22T23:49:07 < Steffanx-> So did the chats. 2022-08-22T23:50:03 < catphish_> that's okay then --- Day changed ti elo 23 2022 2022-08-23T00:12:41 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has quit [Quit: Whop whop] 2022-08-23T00:56:13 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-23T01:03:33 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T01:04:56 < karlp> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6WQqRDrCo or osmething.... 2022-08-23T01:22:30 < karlp> lol, we're getting predicted another .75 to 1 % rates rise. 2022-08-23T01:22:34 < karlp> this is getting a bit silly. 2022-08-23T01:24:22 < catphish_> 1% interest rate rise? 2022-08-23T01:30:18 < karlp> yeah, another one. 2022-08-23T01:34:43 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-23T01:36:34 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T01:37:16 < machinehum> catphish_: What do you do with this openinverter ? 2022-08-23T01:37:48 < zyp> it's inverting open source, turning it closed 2022-08-23T01:38:48 < zyp> real answer: check the last vids here: https://www.youtube.com/user/netmaster10000/videos 2022-08-23T01:39:12 < catphish_> machinehum: i use it to run the motor in my electric car 2022-08-23T01:39:58 < catphish_> open sores car 2022-08-23T01:41:12 < machinehum> neat 2022-08-23T01:55:09 < karlp> jupyter is a _little_ nicer than working on the python repl directly, gotta admit. 2022-08-23T01:55:56 < qyx> is that the plotly+dash+jupyter thing? 2022-08-23T01:56:04 < qyx> or jupyter can be used alone? 2022-08-23T02:00:46 < zyp> depends what you're doing, but yeah 2022-08-23T02:01:07 < zyp> if you're mathing in python and going back and revising stuff, it's way better 2022-08-23T02:02:23 < zyp> karlp, I just went digging to see where you'd merged my riscv reset handler… turned out you just stuck it in your main.cpp 2022-08-23T02:02:42 < zyp> means I'll have to go merge it myself one day now :) 2022-08-23T02:03:45 < zyp> I just booted a hello world on the riscv in the orbtrace 2022-08-23T02:06:55 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-23T02:11:50 < englishman> yes karl i hope they raise another 1%, canada's rates are set on sep 7 but i don't think they will adjust that much :/ 2022-08-23T02:17:02 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T02:26:49 < karlp> yeah, I really wasn't sure yet where the right place for that was. 2022-08-23T02:27:03 < karlp> was still stuck on figuring out the "real" rv boot law.. 2022-08-23T02:27:31 < karlp> got buried in pfic (nvic clone) vs what GD shits have done and backed away for a bit... 2022-08-23T02:28:19 < karlp> qyx: matplotlib in jupyterlab. just a fancy way of doing interactive python really,shareable, editable, re-orderable, and can stick markdown wherevere I feel like, 2022-08-23T02:28:34 < karlp> becomes a nice "here's where the maths comes from" source document. 2022-08-23T02:29:15 < karlp> have some guidance on how to handle wch's "mode 3" interrupts too, but needs more c++ template skills and jinja than I feel like figuring out right now. want to get my own hardware working first. 2022-08-23T02:29:31 < karlp> but, just picked up a wch-link standalone in the mail, so... that will help right? :) 2022-08-23T02:30:58 < aandrew> I can't seem to get my hands on wch-anything 2022-08-23T02:31:24 < karlp> gotta order things months ago :) 2022-08-23T02:32:23 < karlp> I got some sutff today that I ordered on: jun 23. 2022-08-23T02:35:30 < karlp> heh, "5V" on this wch link is 4.6. classssic 2022-08-23T02:40:09 < zyp> well, if you're asking orbtrace for 5V you'll also get whatever your usb port puts out minus losses through the power path 2022-08-23T02:42:47 < zyp> although when the devices went through the testsuite, they were all pretty spot on: https://paste.jvnv.net/view/678sU :) 2022-08-23T02:44:27 < catphish_> karlp: 1% interest doesn't seem like a big deal when inflation is threatening 20% 2022-08-23T02:45:33 < catphish_> i guess these interest and inflation levels are something we haven't seen for a long time, but a long way from being historically unusual afaikl 2022-08-23T02:56:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-23T02:56:31 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-23T02:58:17 < machinehum> I forgot how easy these little AVR units are to use 2022-08-23T03:09:11 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T03:30:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T03:41:07 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-23T03:47:50 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:dd65:7ff5:b04:6229] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-23T04:00:15 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-23T04:04:34 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T04:12:49 -!- snappy [~snappy@user/snappy] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T04:18:33 < snappy> Hi new to stm32/embedded development but pretty capable in C and somewhat in C++. I have a nucleo (stm32l) board, what tools would i need to start getting led blinking on it for a mac? 2022-08-23T04:43:02 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2022-08-23T05:15:45 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-23T05:33:50 -!- fluiD [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T06:46:03 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-23T06:54:55 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T07:19:36 < snappy> i'm so lost, i don't even know where to start; i downloaded the mac stm32 programmer and doesn't really do much or detect an stm32 even though it detects st link 2022-08-23T07:27:10 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T07:59:31 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-23T08:48:17 < benishor> snappy: try using stm32cube ide 2022-08-23T08:48:24 < benishor> it has an embedded programmer 2022-08-23T08:48:47 < benishor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyZS2p1tW-g&ab_channel=Digi-Key 2022-08-23T08:48:59 < benishor> good luck 2022-08-23T08:49:45 < snappy> Thanks. I actually figured out that the jumpers on the nucleo board wasn't set correctly. There's a demo program for my L073RZ available from stm32 (no source though). I ahve it programmed, but i don't think it's actually running - because you're meant to be able to press the B1 button and it's meant to change the frequency of LD2 LED blinking 2022-08-23T08:50:03 < benishor> also, make sure your device gets usb enumerated 2022-08-23T08:50:22 < benishor> ah, you fixed it by changing jumpers, good 2022-08-23T08:50:31 < benishor> try the basic blinky program, that's the hello world of embedded 2022-08-23T08:51:02 < snappy> I don't have any example source code for the nucleo though, or is there examples in the IDE? 2022-08-23T08:51:25 < benishor> check the video tutorial I linked above 2022-08-23T08:52:15 < benishor> at about 4:50 things start 2022-08-23T08:53:03 < snappy> thanks will do 2022-08-23T08:54:41 < benishor> the purpose of HAL is to abstract away specifics of uc families and let you write portable code (as much as possible) 2022-08-23T09:33:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T09:33:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-23T09:33:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T09:34:27 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T09:53:25 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-23T09:56:04 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T10:06:11 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-23T10:15:47 -!- emeryth [emeryth@boston-packets.hackerspace.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-23T10:40:27 -!- emeryth [emeryth@boston-packets.hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T10:56:25 -!- oakyy [~oaky@h-155-4-161-203.A518.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T11:57:38 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-23T11:58:37 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T12:09:23 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-23T12:57:35 < karlp> portable lol. 2022-08-23T12:57:39 < karlp> portable to what? 2022-08-23T12:58:23 < zyp> gd32 2022-08-23T12:58:36 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-42-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-23T13:04:06 -!- mannerism [~tic@107.191.100.185] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-23T13:04:35 < Mangy_Dog> https://youtu.be/HWayGn0bsl8 2022-08-23T13:08:43 -!- mannerism [~tic@107.191.100.185] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T13:11:27 < karlp> zyp:lol 2022-08-23T13:32:05 < Steffanx-> Until dongs rages again about differences between gd32 and stm32 registers. 2022-08-23T13:37:14 < Mangy_Dog> oh so its not a die level clone? 2022-08-23T13:37:19 < PaulFertser> oh, btw, I was told recently that hk32f103 has different handling for GPIO inputs, it's like it doesn't have Schmitt triggers or something, that affects buttons and mechanical encoders. 2022-08-23T13:37:22 < Mangy_Dog> i thought it was for some reason 2022-08-23T13:37:45 < PaulFertser> gd32 is absolutely not. There're die shots available. Totally different. 2022-08-23T13:38:12 < PaulFertser> https://blog.zapb.de/one-exploit-to-rule-them-all/ see this 2022-08-23T13:41:39 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T13:45:53 < karlp> you thought it was because you were stuck in this wild "clone" land idea, 2022-08-23T13:46:05 < karlp> they have compatible registers, but that's about it. 2022-08-23T13:46:41 < karlp> a die level clone would never have been allowed to operate commercially. 2022-08-23T13:46:51 < karlp> gigadevices is an indepdent arm licensee 2022-08-23T13:48:04 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-23T13:51:11 < jpa-> i do wonder why digikey etc. do not carry GD32 even though they have other gigadevices products 2022-08-23T13:54:35 < karlp> I imagine because digikey et al don't do much outbound sales calls, and GD just doesn't care enough? 2022-08-23T13:54:45 < karlp> also, lol, SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP 2022-08-23T14:00:28 -!- tct is now known as jbo 2022-08-23T14:00:33 < jpa-> i would imagine there would be sourcing demand for GD32 in these times 2022-08-23T14:05:26 < qyx> idk, TME is listed as official GD distributor 2022-08-23T14:05:35 < qyx> and they usually don't stock anything 2022-08-23T14:05:43 < qyx> when I asked, MOQ was 1500 2022-08-23T14:09:10 < karlp> that doesn't sound like GD is hurting for customers... 2022-08-23T14:28:37 < englishman> maybe they saw digikeys new interface and said no thanks. 2022-08-23T15:50:23 -!- mouseghost [~draco@user/mouseghost] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T15:52:02 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-23T15:52:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T15:52:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-213-26-199-10.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-23T15:52:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T16:12:42 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T16:26:06 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-23T16:36:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T16:42:45 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T17:16:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-23T17:45:45 < catphish> i'm suddenly very interested in GD32VF103! 2022-08-23T17:46:26 < catphish> F103 registers and a RISC-V core? that sounds kinda fun 2022-08-23T17:47:59 < catphish> i can't think why that would be better than ARM, but it sounds cool 2022-08-23T18:12:10 -!- mouseghost [~draco@user/mouseghost] has quit [Quit: mew wew] 2022-08-23T18:45:19 -!- oakyy [~oaky@h-155-4-161-203.A518.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-23T18:50:58 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T19:33:59 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T19:41:57 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-23T20:21:14 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T20:37:41 < Ecco_> Hi guys :) 2022-08-23T20:38:25 < Ecco_> Dumb GCC question: when linking code with -flto, GCC doesn't automatically remove unused code. I still have to do -ffunction-sections and -Wl,--gc-sections. 2022-08-23T20:38:30 < Ecco_> Is that normal? If so, why? 2022-08-23T20:38:42 -!- Ecco_ is now known as Ecco 2022-08-23T20:51:22 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T20:58:27 < machinehum> catphish: It has zephyr support 2022-08-23T20:58:38 < machinehum> Apparently 2022-08-23T21:08:35 < machinehum> Is it a drop in for the F103? 2022-08-23T21:28:00 < bitmask> i dont know why i cant find it, but does anywhere know where to find the full resolution version of this james webb image? https://images.everyeye.it/img-notizie/il-telescopio-webb-allineato-foto-sconvolge-scienziati-v7-584301.jpg 2022-08-23T21:47:45 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T21:49:29 < catphish_> machinehum: i that one isn't a drop in replacement for the F103 because it won't run the same code, but they do the same chip with an ARM core that is i believe 2022-08-23T21:54:27 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T22:03:53 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T22:11:47 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-23T22:24:53 < machinehum> But electrically? 2022-08-23T22:25:50 < machinehum> Does anyone have as simple cct for a charge pump? I wanna turn 5V into something over 10V, no real current/ripple/voltage requirements 2022-08-23T22:26:12 < specing> cct? 2022-08-23T22:29:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T22:29:46 < catphish_> machinehum: i'd assume that they are electrically and API register compatible with STM32, but not certain 2022-08-23T22:35:00 < machinehum> specing: Circuit 2022-08-23T22:35:06 < machinehum> http://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/images/DC-to-DC-boost-converter-circuit.png 2022-08-23T22:35:13 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has quit [Quit: Whop whop] 2022-08-23T22:35:15 < machinehum> Something like that will work I think 2022-08-23T22:35:32 < machinehum> However the choke needs to be a baby 2022-08-23T22:37:38 < specing> machinehum: maybe a rs232 driver? 2022-08-23T22:38:04 < machinehum> That's an interesting thought 2022-08-23T22:40:50 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-23T22:50:44 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-23T22:58:17 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-23T23:11:11 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T23:16:17 < bitmask> is 2 units of cardio spread over two days the same result as 1 day of twice as much and a day off? 2022-08-23T23:16:34 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-42-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T23:16:55 < kaki> hello evening crew 2022-08-23T23:17:09 < bitmask> kaki you joined right after my dumb question so im asking again 2022-08-23T23:17:11 < bitmask> is 2 units of cardio spread over two days the same result as 1 day of twice as much and a day off? 2022-08-23T23:17:40 < kaki> its better 2022-08-23T23:17:53 < bitmask> ... which? 2022-08-23T23:17:59 < kaki> 2 days 2022-08-23T23:18:17 < kaki> you get the "machine started" 2022-08-23T23:18:18 < bitmask> whys that, i dont doubt you, im just curious 2022-08-23T23:18:21 < kaki> both days 2022-08-23T23:18:26 < bitmask> i see 2022-08-23T23:18:39 < bitmask> and twice as much cool down too 2022-08-23T23:18:39 < kaki> instead of idle on another day 2022-08-23T23:19:15 < kaki> thing is I don't think metabolism returns after the cardio 2022-08-23T23:19:36 < kaki> to idle state 2022-08-23T23:19:37 < bitmask> i dont care about metabolism, maybe i should have clarified. its all for heart health 2022-08-23T23:19:51 < kaki> yeah 2022-08-23T23:20:03 < kaki> hmm 2022-08-23T23:20:37 < kaki> daily is bestest 2022-08-23T23:20:57 < bitmask> i mean as long as they are close i dont care, i just miss days and then try to do twice as much the next day to make up for the missed, so its fine 2022-08-23T23:22:36 < kaki> I think the public health campaings talking about doing small excersise or taking a walk every day has something about it 2022-08-23T23:22:57 < kaki> they don't say every other day or once a week do a marathon 2022-08-23T23:23:01 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-23T23:23:02 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-23T23:23:28 < bitmask> i use this little lower half of an elliptical 30 min a day 2022-08-23T23:23:45 < bitmask> blood pressure went from crazy high to normal in a week, i was getting no exercise 2022-08-23T23:24:37 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-23T23:25:50 < bitmask> i wish i had room for a rowing machine 2022-08-23T23:26:14 < bitmask> i need to choose an upper body exercise 2022-08-23T23:26:36 < bitmask> my elbows suck so pushups are tough but im gonna try to build them up anyway, just start slow 2022-08-23T23:29:34 < kaki> rowing machine damn 2022-08-23T23:29:40 < bitmask> ? 2022-08-23T23:29:56 < kaki> that requires some space 2022-08-23T23:30:07 < bitmask> oh, yea 2022-08-23T23:30:22 < kaki> and when you storage it - you need storage for it 2022-08-23T23:30:25 < lemmi> most can be stood up if not in use 2022-08-23T23:30:30 < kaki> :o 2022-08-23T23:30:35 < bitmask> my dad had one when I was a kid, i just cant think of an easier full body semi exercise 2022-08-23T23:36:51 < kaki> well it doesn't do stomach area only back muscles 2022-08-23T23:37:14 < bitmask> legs too, I would think it would work abs a bit 2022-08-23T23:37:40 < bitmask> maybe not hmm 2022-08-23T23:38:02 < kaki> actually maybe 2022-08-23T23:38:06 < bitmask> they need some way to reverse the tension so when you pull all the way back you have to lean forward like a crunch :) 2022-08-23T23:38:23 < kaki> it's tilted upwards 2022-08-23T23:38:25 < kaki> the rail 2022-08-23T23:38:45 < kaki> maybe 2022-08-23T23:38:51 < lemmi> kaki: it's not nothing for stomach. you need it quite a bit on the forward movement 2022-08-23T23:39:24 < bitmask> doesnt it basically pull you forward? 2022-08-23T23:39:32 < lemmi> mine doesn't 2022-08-23T23:39:59 < kaki> pull is pretty weak 2022-08-23T23:40:00 < bitmask> i mean the fact that the line is tensioned its gotta pull you 2022-08-23T23:40:12 < bitmask> i guess you still need to put in effort 2022-08-23T23:40:13 < lemmi> it's just enough to not leave the line hanging 2022-08-23T23:40:18 < bitmask> its been so long since ive used one 2022-08-23T23:40:23 < lemmi> and you need to get upright again 2022-08-23T23:40:23 < kaki> it just takes the slack from chain 2022-08-23T23:40:44 < kaki> actually rails seem to be level in google image search 2022-08-23T23:40:51 < kaki> so no abs really 2022-08-23T23:42:13 < lemmi> and you need kind of tension your complete upper body to not waste the energy from your legs 2022-08-23T23:42:34 < lemmi> no, it's not the same as a dedicated workout, but still not nothing 2022-08-23T23:44:20 < bitmask> i have an idea, you push your legs straight and then continue going down so your torso is basically parallel to the floor, then theres a lap bar (or more a chest bar) that has a set tension and is part of the seat your butt rides on and so to get back up you are doing a sit up with extra force applied by the bar and then you return and repeat 2022-08-23T23:44:23 < bitmask> :) 2022-08-23T23:45:45 < bitmask> you could make it a strap that goes around your chest with a tensioned chord that attaches to the back so that in addition to the sit up, returning requires extra force too 2022-08-23T23:46:30 < bitmask> i mean just attaching it to the seat is enough 2022-08-23T23:48:48 < kaki> actually yeah if you tilt back and don't pull up by pulling the bar 2022-08-23T23:49:00 < bitmask> yea 2022-08-23T23:49:15 < kaki> then abs are used 2022-08-23T23:49:39 < kaki> maybe that's how it's actually done 2022-08-23T23:52:05 < kaki> youtube guy doesn't lean back though 2022-08-23T23:52:31 < kaki> I wonder if there is enough chain to do that by just adjusting technique --- Day changed ke elo 24 2022 2022-08-24T00:00:59 < catphish_> i finally started going gym this week after not going for nearly a year! 2022-08-24T00:01:41 -!- jbo [~tct@user/tct] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-24T00:02:01 -!- tct [~tct@user/tct] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T00:04:45 < bitmask> shit im gonna make my own :P 2022-08-24T00:04:45 < bitmask> https://www.rowingmachine-guide.com/uploads/2/9/8/1/2981004/5687779.jpg?234 2022-08-24T00:14:59 < Steffanx-> Why not going to a gym bitmask. Usually not that expensive 2022-08-24T00:15:34 < bitmask> i wasnt being serious, i dont have the room. i may but i feel like if i have to go somewhere id never go 2022-08-24T00:17:59 < Steffanx-> Make your gf force you :P 2022-08-24T00:18:04 < bitmask> heh 2022-08-24T00:18:20 < kaki> bitmask: don't buy new 2022-08-24T00:18:26 < Steffanx-> Not being serious, my arse. You're really tempted to make it now 2022-08-24T00:18:38 < emeryth> wtf is this? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004539387853.html 2022-08-24T00:18:44 < kaki> you bet there is a tonne of excercise machines that people want to get rid of 2022-08-24T00:18:49 < bitmask> Steffanx- if thats true its only because id like a project to work on :) 2022-08-24T00:19:01 < bitmask> kaki good point 2022-08-24T00:19:09 < bitmask> wait until a couple months after new years 2022-08-24T00:19:14 < bitmask> get something like brand new :P 2022-08-24T00:23:37 < bitmask> alright back to work, gotta finish up the base ECS system 2022-08-24T00:23:53 < bitmask> i havent tested it at all so its probably just gonna explode 2022-08-24T00:30:19 < kaki> electronicspeed controller? 2022-08-24T00:31:39 < bitmask> entity component system, purely software but it will find a way to explode 2022-08-24T00:44:32 < karlp> emeryth: two wildly different products trying to grab markets with all the keywords at once? 2022-08-24T00:54:27 < kaki> bitmask: wat? 2022-08-24T00:55:07 < bitmask> its a way of storing data, common in game engines 2022-08-24T00:55:18 < bitmask> instead of OOP 2022-08-24T00:55:24 < bitmask> its data oriented design 2022-08-24T00:56:11 < bitmask> structs of arrays instead of arrays of structs if possible to avoid cache misses 2022-08-24T00:56:27 < bitmask> composition over inheritance and all that 2022-08-24T00:57:54 < kaki> mem access optimization? 2022-08-24T00:58:37 < bitmask> yes 2022-08-24T01:00:39 < bitmask> basically you create an entity which is just an integer identifier. then you add components to it which are just basic structs like Position = { int x; int y; } or Velocity = { float dx; float dy; } then a system would be like: for every entity that has both a Position and a Velocity, Position += velocity * dT; 2022-08-24T01:01:47 < bitmask> since they are stored in contiguous memory (kind of, thats the tricky part for multiple component systems) you get a boost 2022-08-24T01:04:49 < bitmask> ECS vs OOP is a hot topic, a lot of people think it's awful. its not really necessary unless you're working on a AAA title but I still wanted to implement it 2022-08-24T01:05:30 < bitmask> i mean if its necessary for AAA titles then it should be the better option, no? 2022-08-24T01:07:33 < Steffanx-> Bitmask the Game will be an AAA title. 2022-08-24T01:07:39 < bitmask> haha YES 2022-08-24T01:11:20 < Steffanx-> The game about a soulless ginger going on an adventure to find a soul in a soulless world? 2022-08-24T01:13:28 < bitmask> masterpiece 2022-08-24T01:14:48 < Steffanx-> And since he's from the USA 2022-08-24T01:15:02 < Steffanx-> He must bring his ar15 2022-08-24T01:15:14 < bitmask> well thats a given jeremy piven 2022-08-24T01:16:23 < Steffanx-> Who's Jeremy? 2022-08-24T01:17:57 < bitmask> its just an actor, i felt like rhyming 2022-08-24T01:18:28 < Steffanx-> Oh dear 2022-08-24T01:18:30 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T01:47:55 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T01:52:46 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-24T01:57:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip174-74-155-19.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2022-08-24T02:14:48 < bitmask> first test of the ecs, lets see how many hundreds of errors there are :) 2022-08-24T02:22:15 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-24T02:41:33 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T02:46:03 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2022-08-24T02:59:56 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T03:00:10 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: tct, catphish_, akaWolf, milkylainen, splud, machinehum, Jak_o_Shadows, catphish, alan_o, boB_K7IQ, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2022-08-24T03:00:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: qyx, Jak_o_Shadows, boB_K7IQ 2022-08-24T03:00:33 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@c-73-189-129-115.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T03:01:01 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@c-73-189-129-115.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-24T03:01:01 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T03:01:22 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-24T03:01:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: akaWolf, alan_o 2022-08-24T03:01:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fenugrec 2022-08-24T03:01:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: machinehum 2022-08-24T03:01:40 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T03:03:46 -!- Netsplit over, joins: begriffs, tct 2022-08-24T03:05:18 -!- milkylainen [~christian@static-212-247-174-226.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T03:30:05 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-24T03:30:22 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T03:32:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-24T03:51:43 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-24T04:06:18 < bitmask> damn i need to read a book on template programming 2022-08-24T04:29:17 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-24T04:38:24 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-24T04:38:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T04:41:29 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T04:45:35 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Excess Flood] 2022-08-24T04:56:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-24T05:02:10 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T05:03:14 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-24T05:06:17 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T05:43:12 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-24T06:42:00 -!- fluiD [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-24T06:42:20 -!- fluiD [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T07:50:37 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T08:00:47 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-24T08:13:59 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T08:16:54 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T08:51:42 -!- nw0- [~nw0@66.42.86.20] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in] 2022-08-24T10:33:18 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-24T11:30:50 -!- kaki [~kaki@176-93-42-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-24T11:37:11 < jpa-> zyp: i've been using orbtrace as my main debugging tool for a few weeks now 2022-08-24T11:37:15 < jpa-> overall it works very well 2022-08-24T11:37:33 < jpa-> weirdly i have some boards where it consistently fails to connect http://paste.dy.fi/ea3/plain 2022-08-24T11:37:43 < jpa-> whereas stlink connects ok on those boards 2022-08-24T11:38:50 < jpa-> i can get scope traces or logic analyzer traces if it seems they would be useful 2022-08-24T12:06:05 < zyp> is this with 1.0 or 1.1? 2022-08-24T12:11:47 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-24T12:17:08 < jpa-> such difficult questions :D 2022-08-24T12:17:28 < zyp> 1.1 was the update that added SWO capability 2022-08-24T12:18:12 < jpa-> then 1.1 2022-08-24T12:18:43 < jpa-> application.bit downloaded 2022-07-25 49b5f55ff8701b54 2022-08-24T12:18:49 < zyp> you can double check with lsusb -vd 1209:3443 | grep Version 2022-08-24T12:19:03 < jpa-> iInterface 9 Version: v1.1.0-0-ge5eaea2 2022-08-24T12:19:35 < zyp> okay, yeah, then your problem isn't something that's already fixed 2022-08-24T12:21:14 < jpa-> also funny that the target boards should be identical as far as CPU & debug interface goes, but one has problems and other one does not 2022-08-24T12:22:55 < jpa-> errr 2022-08-24T12:23:18 < jpa-> looks like someone has assembled a capacitor in place of resistor that leads to Vsense on the debug connector 2022-08-24T12:23:35 < jpa-> so orbtrace gets the correct Vsense for just a few milliseconds until the capacitor charges up 2022-08-24T12:24:03 < jpa-> and stlink obviously doesn't care :) 2022-08-24T12:24:06 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T12:24:16 < zyp> haha 2022-08-24T12:25:53 < jpa-> (i added the resistor there after blowing up one regulator by backfeeding it from a chinese stlink that just gives +3.3V on the Vsense pin) 2022-08-24T12:26:06 < karlp> jpa-: could that be related to the problems I had with swd clock requirements? it was some boards not working others woudl, and stlink worked on all of them. 2022-08-24T12:26:14 < karlp> mubes patched it, but not sure what gateware it went into. 2022-08-24T12:26:22 < zyp> karlp, that was what I was thinking, but that got fixed in 1.1 2022-08-24T12:26:26 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T12:26:35 < karlp> ok, soundsd _very_ related though 2022-08-24T12:26:41 < karlp> I wasn't sure whatversion it got into. 2022-08-24T12:26:53 < zyp> there's only been one update so far 2022-08-24T12:27:55 < jpa-> ok, soldered in the resistor and now it works perfectly well 2022-08-24T12:34:47 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T12:35:44 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T12:36:33 < rajkosto> cant believe the rpi4 has 3.3v pin right next to 5v pin and any small immediate short even via multimeter probe slip kills it permanently 2022-08-24T12:37:40 < rajkosto> same as accidentally shorting 3.3v to ground 2022-08-24T12:39:53 < karlp> stick with the first design, never change, never admit it might be wrong... 2022-08-24T12:40:19 < rajkosto> i got one yesterday and i dont know if it was DoA or the charger killed it or me metering the pins killed it 2022-08-24T12:40:31 < rajkosto> i guess the warranty will take care of it 2022-08-24T12:49:50 < jpa-> i wish i could get warranty for messing stuff up 2022-08-24T13:00:30 < Xogium> rajkosto: any board with the so-called rpi compatible pinout will have this problem; its not just the rpi 4, far from it 2022-08-24T13:00:48 < rajkosto> jpa-, i dont know if i did 2022-08-24T13:01:13 < rajkosto> they can add diodes to the power pins or something 2022-08-24T13:01:25 < rajkosto> or some zeners 2022-08-24T13:01:38 < Xogium> true, but most won't 2022-08-24T13:06:32 < specing> rajkosto: it's a consumer device, you aren't supposed to be measuring anything 2022-08-24T13:13:16 < rajkosto> i had one with a fan running on 3.3v and after like 3 months the back-emf from it killed the pmic too i think 2022-08-24T13:15:47 < jpa-> rajkosto: diodes in power pins have significant voltage drop that causes its own problems 2022-08-24T13:16:11 < jpa-> one can add more advanced protection chips but that would probably cost at least 0.50 USD per unit 2022-08-24T13:17:03 < rajkosto> cant you just put a 5.3v zener on the input and 3.5v zener on the 3.3v 2022-08-24T13:19:02 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-24T13:19:08 < jpa-> doesn't do much for shorting-to-ground scenario 2022-08-24T13:19:27 < jpa-> and depending on current, it may just be a way to burn out the zener 2022-08-24T13:20:05 < jpa-> IIRC rpi recommends 2A power supply, so that would be a 7 watt 3.5V zener diode 2022-08-24T13:21:40 < jpa-> which don't exist, and 10W 3.9V zener is already 35 USD each :) 2022-08-24T13:22:18 < rajkosto> shorting 3.3v to gnd kills it anyway 2022-08-24T13:22:25 < rajkosto> which a zener would do anyway 2022-08-24T13:22:43 < jpa-> zener's don't short to ground 2022-08-24T13:23:53 < rajkosto> dont they dump the excess voltage across them 2022-08-24T13:24:56 < jpa-> they pass more current at higher voltages, but only until the voltage drops below the threshold 2022-08-24T13:55:00 < zyp> there's TVS diodes with foldback behavior 2022-08-24T13:55:18 < rajkosto> i was just about to ship it back when i decided to test it one more time 2022-08-24T13:55:21 < rajkosto> and... its working completely 2022-08-24T13:57:42 -!- duude__- [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T13:58:28 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-24T13:59:17 -!- duude__- is now known as duude__ 2022-08-24T14:14:03 < karlp> Steffanx-: sync news: drift corrected to under 1ppm, absolute offset corrected.... not at all. ~2ms jitter there. having a coffee and evaluating options :) 2022-08-24T14:16:09 < qyx> I like your progress, I am about to be there in a few weeks 2022-08-24T14:16:38 < qyx> (I did it once, so hopefully..) 2022-08-24T14:25:46 < karlp> I am kinda deadended on offset correction. thinking of evaluating how much work it would be to just add periodic advertising to bluez. 2022-08-24T14:25:58 < karlp> pretty unexecited about doing raw hci all by myself. 2022-08-24T14:26:47 < karlp> I have a nice maths error in my drift correction though. abotu every 3-4 hours it loses a whole second :) 2022-08-24T14:28:18 < qyx> 32 bit microsecond counter overflow? 2022-08-24T14:28:49 < qyx> that would be 1.5 hour 2022-08-24T14:31:44 < karlp> lol, imagine the luxury of having a microsecond timer ;) 2022-08-24T14:33:23 < karlp> no, I'm pretty sure it's in the conversions between 32khz remainders and the 1/64k tick resoltuion required by the "device time service" spec and me just getting soemthing wrong. 2022-08-24T14:33:59 < karlp> I suspect it's whenver one of the remainders ends at zero or something, and it only gets _seen_ eveyr couple of hours. 2022-08-24T14:34:08 < karlp> anyway. 2022-08-24T14:53:17 < Steffanx-> What's on the otherside btw karlp? What mcu? Or is there no ble mcu involved? 2022-08-24T15:00:53 < karlp> silabs bgm220/efr32bg22 and "linux" generic at present. 2022-08-24T15:25:11 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-24T16:08:41 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-24T16:15:04 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T16:16:14 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:e422:f9b0:283d:3a24] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T16:33:52 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-24T16:48:38 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T16:49:15 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T17:02:16 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T17:02:16 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-24T17:03:50 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-24T17:30:46 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T17:35:22 < josuah> eww, ARM's code identation is SnaKE_CASe 2022-08-24T17:36:02 < karlp> what? 2022-08-24T17:36:17 < karlp> indentation is case what? with an example that isn't what the word is? 2022-08-24T17:36:18 < josuah> ah, not code identation, naming convention 2022-08-24T17:36:47 < josuah> grabbing an example 2022-08-24T17:37:17 < josuah> https://github.com/ARM-software/CMSIS_5/blob/develop/CMSIS/Core/Include/core_cm0plus.h 2022-08-24T17:38:07 * karlp isn't sure what the rage is for... 2022-08-24T17:38:10 < josuah> xPSR_T_Msk - _reserved1 - IPSR_Type - __Vendor_SysTickConfig - __CM0PLUS_CMSIS_VERSION_MAIN - SysTick - SysTick_IRQn 2022-08-24T17:39:44 < josuah> it might just be me, but it feels like it jumps between snake_case an CamelCase and UPPER_CASE upon rules beyond my understanding 2022-08-24T17:40:04 < karlp> it's not like you're ever going to be allowed to submit edits to the file anyway... 2022-08-24T17:40:04 < josuah> no rage really, just confusion 2022-08-24T17:40:15 < josuah> hahah I guess not :) 2022-08-24T17:40:54 < karlp> it looks like for the most part REG_NAMES, SysTick get's special treatment, and then n/x prefixes/substitutions are lower, and Msk/Pos bit shifts are standalone. 2022-08-24T17:41:01 < karlp> is it "neat and perfect" no... 2022-08-24T17:41:17 < jpa-> https://github.com/ARM-software/CMSIS_5/pulls seems like something does go through 2022-08-24T17:42:03 < karlp> jpa-: pretty sure none of them would dare change the case of core defines though :) 2022-08-24T17:42:06 < karlp> which is what I meant. 2022-08-24T17:42:42 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-24T17:42:51 < karlp> I'd be curious how many of those prs are from actualyl external people too :) 2022-08-24T17:44:49 < karlp> first handful all appear to be arm employees at least, and what looks like maybe someone internning. 2022-08-24T17:45:24 < karlp> yup, can't really see anyone but arm people getting merges in :) 2022-08-24T17:47:33 < jpa-> :) 2022-08-24T17:48:04 < josuah> I need to look at the placement of _, not the case, that can be arbitrary, but once chosen for a word, stays the same everywhere (like #define SysTick_UPPER_CASE...) 2022-08-24T17:48:42 < josuah> do you use these headers, or just take them as example or reference? 2022-08-24T17:48:58 < josuah> I suppose ARM folks use them for ARM projects 2022-08-24T17:49:10 < josuah> ah, this project uses it as well: https://github.com/majbthrd/pico-debug/ 2022-08-24T17:51:09 < karlp> I don't, some of my projects use libopencm3, which was founded when cmsis was unversioned, and not licensed for reuse. some projects use laks, which redefines only what it needs. 2022-08-24T17:51:15 < josuah> one advantage is that in almost any project, if you see a casing like that, you know it is from CMSIS :D 2022-08-24T17:51:34 < karlp> I have often used cmcis_5 as a git submodule before for things that expected to be able to use cmsis headers, btu I never have to touch it myself :) 2022-08-24T17:53:09 < josuah> there is this IP vendor trying to take over the RISC-V world like ARM did with CMSIS: https://doc.nucleisys.com/nmsis/introduction/introduction.html "NMSIS" 2022-08-24T17:53:39 < josuah> and it copied the same coding style ^_^ https://github.com/Nuclei-Software/NMSIS/blob/master/NMSIS/Core/Include/core_feature_eclic.h 2022-08-24T17:53:59 < karlp> they just got a bunch more funding too.. 2022-08-24T17:54:08 < karlp> they have the core in gd32v for instance. 2022-08-24T17:54:30 < karlp> and yeah, for better or worse, "compat" makes the transitions easy for some people. 2022-08-24T17:54:40 < josuah> that makes sense 2022-08-24T17:54:49 < josuah> bumblebee is a big acheivement already! 2022-08-24T17:55:54 < josuah> haha, they even named their account "Nuclei-Software" akin to ARM-software https://github.com/Nuclei-Software 2022-08-24T17:56:32 < karlp> ok, that's overthinking it. 2022-08-24T17:57:16 < josuah> hmm, you are right 2022-08-24T17:57:59 < karlp> but you do get gems like this, https://github.com/openwch/ch32v307/blob/main/EVT/EXAM/SRC/Core/core_riscv.h#L109 2022-08-24T17:59:48 < josuah> making everything to get the migration smoother 2022-08-24T18:00:07 < englishman> nice of that company to have all that documentation in english 2022-08-24T18:01:06 < englishman> looks like wuhan will be the next taiwan 2022-08-24T18:01:27 < karlp> josuah: nuclei even says explicitly it's based on CMSIS: https://doc.nucleisys.com/nmsis/introduction/introduction.html#license 2022-08-24T18:02:12 < fenugrec> how are stm32 stocks these days, haven't checked in months 2022-08-24T18:02:49 < josuah> englishman: add it a ChinaSMC to replace TSMC and we are pretty close 2022-08-24T18:04:46 < englishman> you mean SMIC 2022-08-24T18:11:19 < josuah> I did not know about it 2022-08-24T18:11:54 < josuah> > Notable customers include Qualcomm, Broadcom, and Texas Instruments. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_Manufacturing_International_Corporation 2022-08-24T18:12:56 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-24T18:17:30 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T18:19:47 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-24T18:21:16 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-24T18:25:50 < josuah> and at the other end of the spectrum: https://efabless.com/ 2022-08-24T18:42:44 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:e422:f9b0:283d:3a24] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-24T19:03:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-24T19:10:46 < bitmask> hmm is there anyway to do lines 13-17 in the struct method as above those lines? http://coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/2bb4947780c13f62 2022-08-24T19:10:57 < bitmask> its the only thing i could figure out that works 2022-08-24T19:11:28 < bitmask> and why does it only seem to work with the added template U = T lines 2022-08-24T19:45:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-25T11:44:11 < jpa-> meh, how am i supposed to test stuff on windows when this crap crashes even before i get my files transferred to the test machine 2022-08-25T11:44:39 < zyp> that's the true test 2022-08-25T11:46:07 < PaulFertser> Does "GPIO_InitStructure.GPIO_Speed" anyhow affects the way GPIO inputs are working? I thought they're setting drive strength / slew rate so change only the way GPIO outputs signals. Right? 2022-08-25T11:48:53 < jpa-> PaulFertser: correct 2022-08-25T11:49:11 < PaulFertser> Thank you, I needed that sanity check :) 2022-08-25T11:49:18 < jpa-> IIRC on some models the register bits are setup so that you can't even set the output speed if the pin is configured as input 2022-08-25T12:07:07 < PaulFertser> A customer told me they need that change on buttons and mechanical encoder inputs to make HK32F103 behave. I've just sent an "I doubt that" mail back, thank you :) 2022-08-25T12:08:56 < karlp> well, maybe they made it switch in extra capacitance on the inputs? :) 2022-08-25T12:09:04 < karlp> HardKORE models! 2022-08-25T12:15:32 < jpa-> on STM32F103, the MODE bits are: 0: input mode, 1: output 10MHz, 2: Output 2MHz, 3: Output 50MHz 2022-08-25T12:15:50 < jpa-> so there isn't even a way to set input with specific speed 2022-08-25T12:21:39 < PaulFertser> Hah, I should have checked it. The project was based on std periph library so that is kinda hidden. 2022-08-25T13:06:55 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T13:52:17 < milkylainen> Anyone bothered digging into TF-A TBB CoT? 2022-08-25T14:30:02 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:e422:f9b0:283d:3a24] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T15:02:35 -!- MangyDog [~Mange@82-69-39-176.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T15:03:08 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-25T15:03:18 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T15:04:58 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-25T15:05:11 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-25T15:20:42 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T16:06:07 < josuah> If you are curious about chip-making-machine makers, also related to yesterday's "TSMC for China": https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iSVHp6CAyQ8 2022-08-25T16:11:05 < englishman> what's even more amazing is how that works 2022-08-25T16:11:34 < englishman> they fire a 100 kW CO2 laser into a tin plasma which emits about 200 W of coherent ~12 nm light 2022-08-25T16:11:39 < englishman> in a vacuum 2022-08-25T16:12:32 < englishman> if the shape of the plasma is off the back-reflections from the CO2 laser are enough to destroy the machine 2022-08-25T16:23:59 < aandrew> that is amazing 2022-08-25T16:58:31 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-25T17:00:49 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T17:01:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T17:02:05 < rajkosto> i need a 4S battery BMS that has separate CHARGE and LOAD pads so i can just connect a super powerful DC source to Charge and it will limit the current to the battery (and turn it off when its done), all the while LOAD still takes from CHARGE or BATTERY if charge is disconnected 2022-08-25T17:02:31 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-25T17:02:52 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T17:12:01 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-25T17:12:07 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T17:13:47 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-25T17:15:12 < catphish> sounds like what you need is a current limited power supply 2022-08-25T17:15:30 < catphish> that should do everything you're describing 2022-08-25T17:17:04 < catphish> you're mostly describing a current limited power supply, perhaps you can get ICs that have this plus cell management though 2022-08-25T17:18:15 < catphish> though if you want to charge the batteries up fully (rather than just float them) then things get more complicated 2022-08-25T17:20:48 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-25T17:22:28 < catphish> today's fun, testing this USB stick https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09ZXGZ8M6 2022-08-25T17:23:42 < catphish> got it on a "write a review and you can have it for free" deal, it claims to be waterproof, i will not be testing that claim, it also claims to be USB 3.0, but i'm not really sure how to verify that, what even is USB 3.0? 2022-08-25T17:25:19 < BrainDamage> do you use lunix? 2022-08-25T17:25:25 < catphish> yes 2022-08-25T17:25:25 < Xogium> usb 3... You don't know usb 3 ? Or you are making fun of... 2022-08-25T17:25:34 < BrainDamage> lsusb.py 2022-08-25T17:25:49 < BrainDamage> that will tell you the negotiated protocol 2022-08-25T17:25:49 < Xogium> I ask because my tts doesn't really... I mean it speaks on a so matter of fact tone lol 2022-08-25T17:26:26 < BrainDamage> whenever it transfers data at actual usb 3.0 speeds, is a separate matter 2022-08-25T17:26:37 < catphish> Xogium: no i really don't know much about USB 3, i know it adds superspeed as an option, but that's about all i know 2022-08-25T17:26:57 < Xogium> ah okay 2022-08-25T17:33:08 < catphish> what's not clear to me, does USB 3 *always* have SuperSpeed pins? or is is perfectly acceptable for a device to be USB 3.0 while only having D+ and D- and running at "high speed"? 2022-08-25T17:33:42 < Xogium> I think it has super speed, otherwise it isn't usb 3 speed 2022-08-25T17:33:42 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T17:34:03 < Xogium> but not 1000% sure of that 2022-08-25T17:37:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-25T17:48:12 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T17:55:05 < zyp> karlp, the difference between the 210 and the 115 was smaller than I expected: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/XMdTt.jpg 2022-08-25T17:59:04 < Steffanx-> Is there something like a ws2812 whatever led that doesn't have a quiescent current of 0.5 mA? 2022-08-25T18:01:22 < karlp> huh, ok. 2022-08-25T18:01:27 < karlp> that is less than I thought too. 2022-08-25T18:01:37 < karlp> so, did you get the dual aixun then? or what? 2022-08-25T18:05:22 < qyx> Steffanx-: I am interested too 2022-08-25T18:06:03 < qyx> I arduined up this thing https://bin.jvnv.net/file/G1Udh/Screenshot_2022-08-25_17-05-45.png 2022-08-25T18:06:21 < qyx> I will drive PB7 with PWM out of phase to lit both LEDs 2022-08-25T18:06:39 < qyx> set it to analol/input to turn them off 2022-08-25T18:06:50 < qyx> or up/down/pwm to lit only one 2022-08-25T18:07:02 < zyp> karlp, no, t3b but with both handles 2022-08-25T18:07:17 < karlp> lsusb.py you say? "standard" lsusb -t also shows all the ports and their speeds. 2022-08-25T18:08:07 < Xogium> I usually just check dmesg ;) 2022-08-25T18:08:14 < karlp> yeah, the c210 I've got certainly looks like it will be able to do whatever I'll ever need. I had a look at the jbc cartridge ctalog, there's a _smaller_ range for c210 than c245, but still mroe than enough, and the small c210 stuff is more than small enough for me. 2022-08-25T18:08:52 < zyp> the 115 cartridges are way shorter than the 210 ones, but that's pretty moot when most of the difference is inside the handle 2022-08-25T18:20:44 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/qiC0u.jpg 2022-08-25T18:23:02 < karlp> I wasn't really a fan of that miniscule conical tip it shipped with, and surprisingly, or not, ~no-one on ali sells anythjing else other than the set of three that aixun offer... 2022-08-25T18:23:10 < karlp> or at least, not anyone I found 2022-08-25T18:45:05 < catphish> linux's random number generator is surprisingly slow 2022-08-25T18:48:06 < catphish> not problematically slow, just slower than i'd have expected a modern CPU to be able to make numbers, on my system 59.6 MB/s 2022-08-25T18:49:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T19:12:20 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T19:34:41 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-25T19:44:10 < jpa-> catphish: it used to be a lot slower 2022-08-25T19:47:45 < karlp> sync update: switching to btmon to get "hardware" timings, with filtering for outliers, I can get offset down to a stddev of only ~60usecs, instead of the 2ms I had earlier. 2022-08-25T19:48:11 < karlp> so that's... probably good enough for me. 2022-08-25T19:56:33 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T20:16:50 < milkylainen> hax. 2022-08-25T20:49:31 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-25T20:55:38 -!- Spirit532 [~Spirit532@user/Spirit532] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Spirit5327))] 2022-08-25T20:55:44 -!- Spirit532 [~Spirit532@user/Spirit532] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T21:01:52 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T21:12:24 -!- fluiD [~fluiD@66.186.216.91] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-25T21:20:39 < Steffanx-> Where? 2022-08-25T21:23:20 -!- raindancer [~raindance@m90-132-217-232.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T21:36:55 -!- dima [~dima@kappa.ac93.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T22:04:43 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T22:05:53 -!- steve__ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T22:07:57 -!- steve_ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-25T22:10:02 -!- steve__ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-25T22:10:19 -!- steve__ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T22:12:18 < qyx> Steffanx-: did you find? 2022-08-25T22:12:41 < Steffanx-> Nope.. 2022-08-25T22:13:15 < Steffanx-> Assuming your mean thr addressable led that doesn't have a quiescent current of 0.5 mA 2022-08-25T22:13:21 < Steffanx-> The* 2022-08-25T22:19:50 < qyx> yeah 2022-08-25T22:23:14 -!- kaki [~kaki@178-55-92-88.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T22:24:12 < Steffanx-> kaki knows 2022-08-25T22:24:25 < kaki> shut it down 2022-08-25T22:27:25 < Steffanx-> Yes. 2022-08-25T22:28:31 < qyx> Steffanx-: IS31BL3228A/B 2022-08-25T22:28:51 < qyx> I like it 2022-08-25T22:30:41 < qyx> or KTD2026/KTD2027, but one more wire 2022-08-25T22:48:51 < Steffanx-> But the rgb led is missing.. 2022-08-25T22:49:02 < Steffanx-> An all in one solution would be nice 2022-08-25T23:13:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T23:14:16 < upgrdman> weird. looking at some AMD threadripper specs... a 32-core cpu has the same TDP as a 64-core cpu. so this desktop cpu will throttle down if you actually use the cores?! 2022-08-25T23:14:43 < upgrdman> i know laptop cpus throttle heavily, that makes sense, but desktop too? 2022-08-25T23:23:03 < kaki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYkb5kbM3o music steff 2022-08-25T23:28:15 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-25T23:32:15 < PaulFertser> I can tell you about server Xeons I saw, they have TDP of 205 W but they tell the system they can be boosted to ~400 W for short periods of time. 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NVIC_PriorityGroupConfig( NVIC_PriorityGroup_4 ); 2022-08-26T01:34:34 < begriffs> I think I have to run this little incantation to make FreeRTOS work on my stm32f4. 2022-08-26T01:34:59 -!- yukam [~yukam@user/yukam] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T01:40:29 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T01:48:38 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@2604:3d08:937f:cf00::b0a] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T01:48:54 < machinehum> Fucking azoteq people don't have a lunux app to flash their dumb chips 2022-08-26T01:49:18 < machinehum> I reached out like "why isn't this working" included screencaps of their chip being retarded 2022-08-26T01:49:44 < machinehum> They're like... 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I did rcc_clock_setup_pll(&rcc_hse_8mhz_3v3[RCC_CLOCK_3V3_84MHZ] ); and now openocd won't flash anything else. It says Error: Failed to enable the FPB 2022-08-26T06:07:04 -!- steve__ [~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T06:14:31 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-26T06:15:26 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T06:21:24 < begriffs> (Figured it out, had to hold down reset, start the opencd flashing, then release reset. Then the program doesn't get a chance to run. 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ZZZzzz…] 2022-08-26T09:17:57 < PaulFertser> begriffs: fwiw you can connect SRST line from debug adapter to the target and use "reset_config connect_assert_srst" so that OpenOCD would automatically manipulate it the way you need to reflash from any state. 2022-08-26T09:18:14 < PaulFertser> begriffs: another option is to switch BOOT0 pin, in bootloader mode SWD is accessible too. 2022-08-26T10:13:56 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@2a05:3580:df03:1a00:21e:8cff:fe18:61] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T10:20:32 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T11:42:25 -!- ou5x is now known as oz4ga 2022-08-26T11:47:58 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T12:09:19 -!- rajkohaxor [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T12:11:46 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T12:32:11 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T12:35:27 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T12:38:00 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T12:38:01 -!- rajkohaxor [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T12:41:46 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T12:59:48 -!- rajkohaxor [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T13:03:06 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T13:32:15 -!- rajkohaxor [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-26T13:46:08 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T13:53:46 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-26T14:06:26 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T14:22:48 < catphish> USB stick test results... https://paste.debian.net/1251748/ 2022-08-26T14:23:37 < catphish> i guess it comes with a free random number generator 2022-08-26T14:23:41 < zyp> ha 2022-08-26T14:32:06 < catphish> on the plus side, it turns out is is USB 3, and the read speeds are actually quite good at 112MB/s 2022-08-26T14:32:11 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [] 2022-08-26T14:34:41 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T14:35:45 < PaulFertser> catphish: when you look in dmesg after inserting you can see right away if it's high speed or super-speed. 2022-08-26T14:36:13 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T14:42:29 < jpa-> which doesn't tell anything about how fast the access actually is 2022-08-26T14:43:07 -!- perole [~perole@vv.kirurg.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T14:43:55 -!- perole is now known as invzim 2022-08-26T14:50:34 < PaulFertser> Indeed, but it gives the upper bound. 2022-08-26T14:50:56 < PaulFertser> So it tells at least something. 2022-08-26T14:52:04 < PaulFertser> Also it might be essential to diagnose tricky issues with USB hubs or adapters and cases where just one orientation works etc. 2022-08-26T14:55:23 < catphish> PaulFertser: yeah i think the first time i inserted it, i didn't insert it all the way, and it came up as high speed, but now it's super speed 2022-08-26T15:10:07 < invzim> balls, my cubeIde updated my jlink, and now it complains about it being a clone 2022-08-26T15:37:45 < Steffanx-> Lol 2022-08-26T15:37:51 < Steffanx-> And is it a clone? 2022-08-26T15:41:03 < invzim> not sure, it has chinese letters on the plastic case :) 2022-08-26T15:42:02 < catphish> i wrote an appropriate review of my USB memory stick :) 2022-08-26T15:42:46 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-176-176.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T15:44:03 < Steffanx-> There is a tool out there which you can run to patch the dll's invzim , but ... its chinese as well and do you trust it? ;) 2022-08-26T15:46:36 < invzim> Figure what I have is equivalent to j-link plus, and christ 600 eur for that one.. 2022-08-26T15:47:00 < invzim> if it was 300, I would buy it in a second 2022-08-26T15:49:49 < zyp> orbtrace is only 150 :) 2022-08-26T15:54:09 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-26T15:57:14 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T16:38:56 -!- catphish_ [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-26T16:40:05 < karlp> so 600 euro means 2 seconds right? 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2022-08-26T20:26:46 < Ecco> (hi, btw :D) 2022-08-26T20:28:03 < jpa-> on which STM32? F0 vs. H7 is quite a difference 2022-08-26T20:28:12 < jpa-> and what resolution 2022-08-26T20:30:05 < Ecco> QVGA, probably something on the beefier end, F7 or better 2022-08-26T20:34:14 < jpa-> MJPEG would work pretty well performance-wise and require some 300-1000 kB/s bitrate depending on quality you want 2022-08-26T20:38:29 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T20:38:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T20:45:16 < Ecco> Intersting. Will look into this :) 2022-08-26T20:45:21 < Ecco> Another completely unrelated question 2022-08-26T20:45:34 < Ecco> Is it possible to tell the linker to avoid a specific area? 2022-08-26T20:45:38 < Ecco> As in 2022-08-26T20:45:44 < Ecco> I have a flash chip 2022-08-26T20:46:00 < Ecco> and I'd like to *not* write any of my code in a given sector in the middle of the chip 2022-08-26T20:46:25 < Ecco> I don't want to manually spread my code in either "half" of the flash 2022-08-26T20:46:34 < Ecco> I'd like the linker to just skip the sector 2022-08-26T20:46:39 < Ecco> Is that possible? 2022-08-26T20:56:03 < invzim> PaulFertser: out-of-the-box no fuzz or config in Windows with cubeIDE I presume 2022-08-26T21:01:02 < invzim> Ecco: kindof, but not for 'free'. With the .ld file, you can specify that you want 'flash' to start at a specific address and be of a certain size 2022-08-26T21:01:56 < invzim> you can specify different areas, but it's a bit of a pain to get code to reside in different areas 2022-08-26T21:20:33 < Ecco> yeah 2022-08-26T21:20:37 < Ecco> That's my problem really 2022-08-26T21:20:42 < Ecco> I can define two regions 2022-08-26T21:20:49 < Ecco> but then ld will not let one overflow into the other 2022-08-26T21:21:07 < Ecco> I could, alternatively, force a one-sector-long symbol at the right address 2022-08-26T21:21:20 < Ecco> but I haven't figured out how to do this and still have all the other symbols use the remaining space 2022-08-26T21:26:48 < aandrew> invzim: nice. 2022-08-26T21:27:23 < aandrew> PaulFertser: I've been having more and more luck with openocd and the ft2232/4323 devices I've been putting onboard 2022-08-26T21:27:44 < PaulFertser> aandrew: glad to hear! 2022-08-26T21:28:35 < aandrew> one thing that has not been going so well is setting the FT2232 to "let go" of the lines so I can use an external debugger 2022-08-26T21:28:59 < aandrew> it *should* be as simple as ftdi initial_layout 0xffff 0x0000 but it doesn't seem to actually turn all lines into inputs 2022-08-26T21:29:18 < PaulFertser> Probably not in MPSSE mode. 2022-08-26T21:32:07 < aandrew> should be, if I use 0xfff8 0xfffb with no other changes it works fine, unless openocd is noticing the initial_layout is actually not going to work and doing something funny 2022-08-26T22:27:04 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@2604:3d08:937f:cf00::b0a] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T22:29:46 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@2604:3d08:937f:cf00::b0a] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-26T22:58:59 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2022-08-26T23:02:51 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-26T23:03:57 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@2604:3d08:937f:cf00::8f59] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T23:11:18 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-26T23:48:22 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:cd26:f3b6:f91:f5a4] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed la elo 27 2022 2022-08-27T00:30:54 < upgrdman> anyone know of a VNC server that will provide very high quality? just VNC'ing between two device on same network, so even if it uses 1Gbps, that's fine 2022-08-27T00:31:21 < upgrdman> i feel like with modern hardward, VNC should be able to do 4k60 over wifi with ~no latency 2022-08-27T01:12:59 < kaki> how many frames of latency encode/decode requires? 2022-08-27T01:13:20 < kaki> depends on encoder settings maybe 2022-08-27T01:14:36 < kaki> hmm actually just <1 2022-08-27T01:32:58 < upgrdman> my smartphone does 4k30 mjpeg with what feels like 1 or 2 frames of latency. 2022-08-27T02:03:18 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-27T02:11:37 < aandrew> I would have thought x2vnc or something would work fine. 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Is there any other real feature QR codes have that Data Matrix just can't offer? 2022-08-27T19:59:46 < qyx> Interests me too 2022-08-27T20:24:08 < jpa-> qr code feels easier to recognize, though i'm not sure that matters much 2022-08-27T20:28:26 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-27T20:34:04 < qyx> by a human? 2022-08-27T20:34:51 < BrainDamage> QR codes have entered the mainstream knowledge 2022-08-27T20:35:41 < qyx> but but not ISO/IEC 2022-08-27T20:35:57 < qyx> oh 2022-08-27T20:35:58 < qyx> they are 2022-08-27T20:35:59 < qyx> sorry 2022-08-27T20:40:24 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@212.102.35.212] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-27T20:53:57 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-110-139.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-27T21:09:51 -!- begriffs [~begriffs@user/begriffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-27T21:46:13 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The unused I/O 2022-08-29T16:10:12 < drzacek> pins should be configured as analog input by software; they should also be connected to a 2022-08-29T16:10:12 < drzacek> fixed logic level 0 or 1 by an external or internal pull-up or pull-down or configured as output 2022-08-29T16:10:12 < drzacek> mode using software." 2022-08-29T16:11:02 < drzacek> I'm kinda recalling asking about unused gpios here some time ago, was told "leave them floating, put them into analog input" 2022-08-29T16:11:17 < drzacek> now this kinda contradicts it - so which one is it? unused gpio on GND? 2022-08-29T16:12:19 < zyp> either 2022-08-29T16:13:42 < drzacek> "should not be left floating" kinda sounds like there is no choice? 2022-08-29T16:13:49 < zyp> the issue is that floating signals on digital input buffers picks up noise, and you can solve them either by turning them off (analog mode) or ensuring the signal doesn't float 2022-08-29T16:14:44 < zyp> the line you copied contradicts itself, a pin can't be configured to analog input and output at the same time 2022-08-29T16:15:05 < zyp> so read the «they should also» as «they should alternatively» 2022-08-29T16:15:30 < drzacek> true, somehow missed that it contradicts itself 2022-08-29T16:16:34 < drzacek> okay, so it comes down to "is connecting this to ground more hassle than remembering to put it into analog input in software?" 2022-08-29T16:17:10 < zyp> yeah 2022-08-29T16:17:26 < zyp> and it's not really a big issue, I tend to not care about it 2022-08-29T16:17:42 < drzacek> ok thx 2022-08-29T16:24:58 < drzacek> the jtag debug pins (njrst etc) dont need any special treating when I use swd, right? at least I don't see anything 2022-08-29T17:02:51 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-29T17:05:27 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T17:33:53 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-110-139.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T17:51:59 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-29T18:22:56 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-29T18:30:55 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-29T18:42:03 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2022-08-29T19:03:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T19:17:01 -!- Kerr [~quassel@2601:602:ce80:df10::949] has quit [Quit: Bye.] 2022-08-29T19:23:36 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-236.cgn.sunrise.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T19:47:29 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-236.cgn.sunrise.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-29T20:02:44 -!- rajkohaxor [~rajkosto@93-87-110-139.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T20:03:00 -!- rajkohaxor [~rajkosto@93-87-110-139.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-29T20:03:02 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T20:05:36 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-110-139.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-29T20:09:10 -!- Kerr [~quassel@2601:602:ce80:df10::949] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T20:43:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T20:45:31 < octorian> So my device connects via USB and has a bootloader. It can be started in bootloader mode, or normal mode. Both present different devices via USB. Does it make sense to use a different USB device serial in bootloader mode vs normal mode, or should I just keep them the same? 2022-08-29T20:49:22 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-29T20:53:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T20:57:02 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@user/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T20:57:41 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T21:22:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2022-08-29T21:22:44 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@192.158.238.13] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T21:25:56 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-29T21:30:03 -!- Prudence42_ [~Prudence@138.199.57.38] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T21:30:46 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@192.158.238.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-29T21:55:48 -!- Prudence42_ [~Prudence@138.199.57.38] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-29T22:31:14 < zyp> octorian, same serial, but use a different PID 2022-08-29T22:33:00 < octorian> I could see the rationale for that. 2022-08-29T22:33:30 < octorian> Does this mean every product, in general, should have two PIDs assigned to it? (normal mode, update mode) 2022-08-29T22:34:16 < zyp> if you have a USB bootloader that presents a different configuration than USB in normal mode, you should absolutely have different PIDs for the two 2022-08-29T22:35:22 < zyp> the host OS might cache the configuration 2022-08-29T22:35:55 < octorian> I guess what I'm wondering, is whether it makes sense to have one "bootloader PID" that I use across multiple products, or give each product a unique PID for its bootloader update mode. 2022-08-29T22:36:08 < octorian> Not sure it makes a difference to the host OS either way. 2022-08-29T22:37:18 < zyp> ah, that's less of an issue 2022-08-29T22:37:31 < octorian> Might as well go ahead and get another VID from MCS then. 2022-08-29T22:38:03 < zyp> if the bootloader presents identically across all the products it's used on, using the same PID might be fine, but I'd still use different ones 2022-08-29T22:38:19 < zyp> simply because you can then tie an update image to a PID 2022-08-29T22:38:38 < octorian> Oh right, that's a good point. 2022-08-29T22:42:53 < octorian> I don't think UF2 does anything with the VID/PID (that's what I'm using here), though I know DFU can. 2022-08-29T22:43:17 < zyp> ah, yeah 2022-08-29T22:43:55 < qyx> is it worth it messing with UF2? 2022-08-29T22:44:15 < octorian> The main concern there is whether doing this would cause problems with "beta" users that have bootloaders with the old VID/PID. And they shouldn't. (they can update the bootloader, but that's an extra annoying step) 2022-08-29T22:44:25 < zyp> qyx, it seems neat enough 2022-08-29T22:44:32 < octorian> qyx, absolutely. It makes firmware updates so darn easy for an end user. 2022-08-29T22:44:53 < octorian> DFU requires special utilities, but UF2 is literally "drag and drop to mass storage device" 2022-08-29T22:47:28 < zyp> I'd say it depends a bit on the audience 2022-08-29T22:47:56 < octorian> I use DFU to update the bootloader itself (since its built into to MCU), then UF2 for the app code. 2022-08-29T22:50:25 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T22:52:05 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216193138.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-29T22:55:52 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-200-27.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T22:59:31 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@10.121.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-29T23:01:08 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-87-200-27.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-29T23:10:33 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-86-126-63.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T23:11:59 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@178-175-131-100.static.as43289.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T23:12:52 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@93-86-126-63.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Client Quit] 2022-08-29T23:14:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T23:22:18 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@178-175-131-100.static.as43289.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-29T23:23:42 < kaki> hello early 2022-08-29T23:25:43 < kaki> hydraulic pros here? 2022-08-29T23:26:38 < zyp> don't think I qualify, but whatever 2022-08-29T23:29:28 < qyx> is your deere broken 2022-08-29T23:30:44 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-29T23:37:23 -!- Kerr [~quassel@2601:602:ce80:df10::949] has quit [Quit: Bye.] 2022-08-29T23:57:39 < kaki> I need axle seal for gerotor motor 2022-08-29T23:57:50 < kaki> there are like dozens of types of seals 2022-08-29T23:58:43 < zyp> don't club them 2022-08-29T23:58:54 -!- brazuca [~brazuca@2804:7f4:3590:6971:3045:4501:957f:c55d] has quit [Quit: Client closed] --- Day changed ti elo 30 2022 2022-08-30T00:01:32 < kaki> it's weird size so I have to source it myself 2022-08-30T00:02:31 < kaki> I replaced the motor but maybe I can make the old one good too 2022-08-30T00:05:16 < qyx> is that the geroller motor thing 2022-08-30T00:05:29 < qyx> so full pressure on the seal? 2022-08-30T00:08:11 < kaki> maybe 50% 2022-08-30T00:08:39 < kaki> one had 2 small holes across bearing right under seal 2022-08-30T00:08:56 < kaki> I assume those 2 small holes are for the 2 ports the motor has 2022-08-30T00:09:15 < kaki> *routed to 2022-08-30T00:09:19 < zyp> motor only has two ports? 2022-08-30T00:09:25 < kaki> yes 2022-08-30T00:10:47 < zyp> the stuff I've worked with got a third drain port, unpressurized return of lubricating oil 2022-08-30T00:10:59 < zyp> but I guess they're quite a bit bigger than what you've got :) 2022-08-30T00:13:52 < kaki> these have just a seal to take the 50% pressure 2022-08-30T00:14:19 < kaki> some similar size units already have 3rd port 2022-08-30T00:17:38 < qyx> TIL kicad ";" highlights the net under the cursor 2022-08-30T00:38:33 < upgrdman> hahaha, this is great. it's like a 3D graphics artist with childish imagination dreaming up shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPzoNhOHE4 2022-08-30T00:39:14 < kaki> interesting 2022-08-30T00:39:26 < kaki> there is high pressure as in "10bar" 2022-08-30T00:39:41 < kaki> and there is high pressure as in "200bar" 2022-08-30T00:40:09 < kaki> upgrdman: :o 2022-08-30T00:41:17 < kaki> cars just make a way for the ufo when it flies under bridges :o 2022-08-30T00:42:25 < upgrdman> kaki, and check this out... a truck inspired by the apple trash can ?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KH8qafcsiM&t=13s 2022-08-30T00:44:17 < kaki> 50" low profile rims 2022-08-30T00:46:02 < karlp> zyp: you can also use strings in your bootloadeer instead of a pid for every product having it's own bootloader. 2022-08-30T00:46:23 < karlp> that seems kinda wasteful too me, _if_ you really do have the same bootloader. 2022-08-30T00:47:43 < kaki> upgrdman: first one is innovatin, second one is modeling vehicles in blender / maya 2022-08-30T00:53:22 < kaki> industry standard seal type BASL has average pressure rating of just couple kilos 2022-08-30T00:54:34 < kaki> BAHD has average pressure rating of 100bar 2022-08-30T00:54:54 < kaki> both look like an axle seal 2022-08-30T00:56:14 < kaki> how interestings that the "bread and butter" type of seal cannot take virtually any pressure 2022-08-30T01:00:59 -!- Mangy_Dog [~Mange@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-30T01:08:59 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-30T01:14:10 < kaki> interesting there is 2port gerotor motors with symmetric ports and 2port gerotor motors with one pressure and one return 2022-08-30T01:15:00 < kaki> difference is pretty much that another one blows a seal if you load it in another direction 2022-08-30T01:17:21 < zyp> so it can only rotate in one direction? 2022-08-30T01:18:38 < zyp> the stuff I worked on had one high pressure and one low pressure port (in addition to the drain) 2022-08-30T01:19:33 < zyp> internal manifolds serving electronically controlled valves on each cylinder, so high and low pressure ports had the same roles regardless of rotation direction 2022-08-30T01:19:54 < kaki> I dont need high pressure seal for this one 2022-08-30T01:20:10 < zyp> but flow direction would depend on whether it's running as a pump or as a motor 2022-08-30T01:20:20 < kaki> distributor has catch ring right under bearing and seal 2022-08-30T01:20:27 < kaki> it's connected to return 2022-08-30T01:20:28 < zyp> motor consumes HP and produces LP, pump consumes LP and produces HP 2022-08-30T01:21:11 < kaki> maybe I can still expect 10bars 2022-08-30T01:22:23 < zyp> the test setup we were using ran two HPUs so it could feed both HP and LP and return went through overpressure relief valves from each of those back to the return 2022-08-30T01:25:24 < zyp> PRVs are kinda like diodes in that they start conducting at a given pressure differential, and they're also like diodes in that the pressure drop across it increases with flow (think I/V curve) 2022-08-30T01:25:29 -!- catphish [~charlie@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T01:26:30 < zyp> so they didn't do a very good job at keeping the pressures stable when the flow rates were varying 2022-08-30T01:33:22 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T01:38:52 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@91.240.243.12] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T01:41:26 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@91.240.243.12] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-30T01:53:05 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@143.244.42.102] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T02:02:55 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@143.244.42.102] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-30T02:09:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2022-08-30T03:08:31 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2022-08-30T03:27:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-24-19-1-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T03:45:27 -!- CatCow [~wtf_over@98.246.223.133] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T04:26:21 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T04:53:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-30T05:02:22 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T05:02:22 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-30T05:02:53 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-30T05:03:58 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-30T05:40:39 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T05:43:17 -!- [itchyjunk] [~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2022-08-30T07:10:30 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@c-69-141-221-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I want it to work like this: registry.foreach([](X &x, Y &y, Z &z) { blah blah blah }); 2022-08-30T17:02:37 < bitmask> I can do it for one component but cant figure out how to do it for more than one 2022-08-30T17:02:58 < bitmask> im just learning how to use templates and lambdas 2022-08-30T17:03:13 < bitmask> and parameter packs 2022-08-30T17:03:47 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@194.39.127.39] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T17:03:50 < bitmask> how do you even set up the lambdas parameter list 2022-08-30T17:03:56 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-30T17:04:40 < bitmask> just to correct myself, i meant not 2022-08-30T17:04:59 < bitmask> or did i? 2022-08-30T17:05:11 < bitmask> yes 2022-08-30T17:05:14 < bitmask> yes i did 2022-08-30T17:05:28 < bitmask> my brain hasnt turned on yet today 2022-08-30T17:06:35 < Steffanx-> Sleep well sir 2022-08-30T17:07:14 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@2001:470:69fc:105::3124] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-30T17:07:14 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@user/helmholtz] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T17:14:11 < rajkosto> variadic templates are pretty easy with c++17 pack expansion operators 2022-08-30T17:19:43 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@user/helmholtz] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 2022-08-30T17:21:02 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@2001:470:69fc:105::3124] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T17:28:49 < bitmask> how do you do it with lambdas? 2022-08-30T17:29:26 < bitmask> that wont work because for eaxmple if I do: registry.foreach([dT](position &pos, velocity &vel){ pos.x += vel.x*dT; pos.y += vel.y*dT; }); 2022-08-30T17:29:38 < bitmask> oops ignore the first statement 2022-08-30T17:29:53 < bitmask> like thats an example of what i wanna do, how do I set the value of pos and vel 2022-08-30T17:30:08 < bitmask> when the types are a parameter pack 2022-08-30T17:30:23 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@2001:470:69fc:105::3124] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 2022-08-30T17:31:06 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@2001:470:69fc:105::3124] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T17:31:25 < bitmask> recursively fill it out as a tuple? 2022-08-30T17:31:33 < bitmask> and then pass that in? 2022-08-30T17:34:40 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@2001:470:69fc:105::3124] has quit [Changing host] 2022-08-30T17:34:40 -!- Helmholtz [~leibnizma@user/helmholtz] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T17:44:33 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@194.39.127.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2022-08-30T17:44:42 -!- Prudence42_ [~Prudence@209.216.92.201] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T17:50:45 < rajkosto> you can take a std function reference of a given type in your variadic template 2022-08-30T17:50:54 < rajkosto> then those lambdas will match 2022-08-30T17:52:55 < rajkosto> you can do it with raw parameter types too but i cant be bothered 2022-08-30T18:03:46 < drzacek> hello there 2022-08-30T18:04:02 < drzacek> https://www.st.com/resource/en/application_note/an4555-getting-started-with-stm32l4-series-and-stm32l4-series-hardware-development-stmicroelectronics.pdf why is there an resistor on hse crystal (page 49)? 2022-08-30T18:16:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@152.44.147.180] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T18:26:29 < bitmask> ok specific question finally... how can I use std::make_tuple in a variadic template function such that for each type in the parameter pack I want to call and store in the tuple: registry.getComponent(someEntity) 2022-08-30T18:29:23 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@130-062-074-080.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2022-08-30T18:29:35 < bitmask> you cant just do: std::make_tuple(registry.getComponent(someEntity)) right? 2022-08-30T18:36:35 -!- specing_ [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T18:36:35 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by specing_))] 2022-08-30T18:38:09 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2022-08-30T18:48:21 < rajkosto> why not 2022-08-30T18:48:28 < rajkosto> add a , ... 2022-08-30T18:48:48 < rajkosto> and expand everything that needs expanding 2022-08-30T18:55:43 < bitmask> that was easier than i thought 2022-08-30T18:55:49 < bitmask> didnt know it worked that way 2022-08-30T19:15:25 -!- Prudence42_ [~Prudence@209.216.92.201] has quit [K-Lined] 2022-08-30T19:18:00 < rajkosto> std tuple is pretty slow to compile btw, you can hand roll your own types to reduce compile times 2022-08-30T19:18:14 < rajkosto> why do you need to pass a tuple ? you can just call lambdas and forward stuff without them 2022-08-30T19:29:41 -!- rajkosto [~rajkosto@109-93-187-158.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2022-08-30T20:00:21 < bulletsquid> Hi, I'm using lwip with stm32 and I need to deserialize a packet. However, i dont see anywhere where I can check how big the packet received was so I don't know how big the uint8 * buffer is... 2022-08-30T20:00:47 < bulletsquid> its UDP btw 2022-08-30T20:05:59 -!- kraiskil [~kraiskil@mob-194-230-148-79.cgn.sunrise.net] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T20:11:38 < bulletsquid> nvm, just check the udp header duh 2022-08-30T20:18:58 < bitmask> booya, ECS foreach works with arbitrary number of components 2022-08-30T20:19:20 < bitmask> i'll try to improve it later because im sure im not doing it a great way 2022-08-30T20:20:51 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2022-08-30T20:30:48 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T20:36:36 < bitmask> https://github.com/RJFeddeler/NoobECS 2022-08-30T20:38:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@47.180.47.55] has joined ##stm32 2022-08-30T20:52:28 -!- Prudence42 [~Prudence@45.86.211.17] has joined ##stm32 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