--- Log opened ma heinĂ€ 01 00:00:29 2024 2024-07-01T00:15:41 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2024-07-01T00:22:46 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T00:32:47 < Steffanx> Probably not the same 😜 2024-07-01T00:52:41 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-01T00:57:05 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-01T01:49:55 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-a562-f68c-61fc-fde7.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2024-07-01T01:52:05 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-01T02:05:41 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2024-07-01T02:10:25 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T02:12:33 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T03:06:44 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-01T03:14:02 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T07:07:20 -!- scrts [~scrts2@23.28.144.38] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 2024-07-01T07:07:44 -!- scrts [~scrts2@23.28.144.38] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T07:31:24 < octorian> So one thing on my to-do list now is to attempt to debug MCU behavior during repeated EFT Bursts. Going to attempt to use an STLINK V3 with the B-STLINK-ISOL add-on. Hope this ends up working alright. 2024-07-01T07:32:35 < octorian> I noticed that Segger also makes an SWD isolator add-on, but it seems less capable (doesn't pass through the UART signals) and also costs a lot more.. So I'll try the ST thing first. (even if I do most of my dev work with a J-Link these days) 2024-07-01T08:28:41 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T09:06:10 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T09:06:16 -!- whocares [uid82950@id-82950.ilkley.irccloud.com] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T09:24:57 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-01T09:25:29 < jpa-> octorian: you could also use a cheap usb isolator 2024-07-01T09:50:28 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-87-2-122-210.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T09:50:28 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@host-87-2-122-210.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2024-07-01T09:50:28 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T09:54:22 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T11:01:50 -!- grindhold [~quassel@mail.skarphed.org] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T11:13:58 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T11:14:10 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2024-07-01T11:16:07 -!- whocares [uid82950@id-82950.ilkley.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2024-07-01T11:46:35 < qyx_> Unrouted: 0 \o/ 2024-07-01T11:46:37 < qyx_> DRC passed 2024-07-01T11:55:07 < jpa-> and then you notice you had via size set to smaller than the manufacturer minimum 2024-07-01T11:55:46 < qyx_> oh no, this is a very rough work 2024-07-01T11:57:11 < qyx_> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/Z1rqw/Screenshot_2024-07-01_10-56-25.png 2024-07-01T11:57:18 < qyx_> accepting your bets 2024-07-01T13:00:44 < karlp> fuckin lol. we hav ea 650 entry mime type lookup table. 2024-07-01T13:01:11 < karlp> it's used in precisly one place, to take a filename from our own build (pre-baked js web app) and return the right content type when serving it up. 2024-07-01T13:01:36 < karlp> I'm so glad we are scannting through { ".hgl","application/vnd.hp-hpgl" }, 2024-07-01T13:06:08 < jpa-> qyx_: nice curly traces 2024-07-01T13:07:26 < qyx_> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/dX6BK/Screenshot_2024-07-01_12-06-38.png 2024-07-01T13:08:05 < qyx_> and front https://bin.jvnv.net/file/xby8P/Screenshot_2024-07-01_12-07-47.png 2024-07-01T13:10:04 < karlp> what are the two un-circled pins on the lower external connector? 2024-07-01T13:10:29 < jpa-> i want to see schematic also 2024-07-01T13:10:47 < qyx_> karlp: NC 2024-07-01T13:10:48 < karlp> that "thick busbar" wit hthe slots? are you going to externally mount extra wire there or something? 2024-07-01T13:12:14 < qyx_> that's a common circuit breaker single pole pin-type busbar 2024-07-01T13:12:17 < qyx_> copper 2024-07-01T13:14:59 < qyx_> jpa-: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/TO07Z/bldc-inverter-1k-1.0.0-sch.pdf 2024-07-01T13:16:16 < jpa-> heh, same type ACS711 efuse setup that i have used in a cnc system - it has been very nice, though it is easy to accidentally trip 2024-07-01T13:16:40 < qyx_> glad to hear it works 2024-07-01T13:16:56 < qyx_> I added power cycling capability to release the latch 2024-07-01T13:21:41 < jpa-> do i just not see it or no TVS on VBUS? that could save you from accidental regen braking 2024-07-01T13:22:26 < qyx_> there is one on the input near the connector 2024-07-01T13:22:38 < qyx_> before ACS711 2024-07-01T13:22:43 < qyx_> a bulky one 2024-07-01T13:22:50 < jpa-> true, i guess there is no risk of blowing efuse with regen current levels 2024-07-01T13:23:09 < qyx_> this is designed to run 99% in regen mode 2024-07-01T13:23:22 < qyx_> so there is definitely a power sink able to handle it 2024-07-01T13:23:30 < jpa-> oh 2024-07-01T13:23:31 < qyx_> it is for a small petrol OHV motor generator 2024-07-01T13:23:48 < qyx_> forward mode is used for cranking only 2024-07-01T13:25:07 < jpa-> i would have TVS on +12V also, that limits fault propagation if you burn a mosfet 2024-07-01T13:25:29 < jpa-> with +12V TVS you usually burn one mosfet and one gate driver; without it you burn everything 2024-07-01T13:26:04 < jpa-> (https://jyvĂ€skylĂ€.hacklab.fi/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/moottoriohjain-scaled.jpg ... how i know) 2024-07-01T13:26:06 < qyx_> experience speaking? 2024-07-01T13:46:31 < karlp> holyshit. I just discovered that I'm meant to support receving both _horizontal_ and _vertical_ tab characters on a serial port as part of a fucking request api. 2024-07-01T13:46:41 < karlp> i wonder how many more things they can bolt into the same serial port. 2024-07-01T13:49:04 < ventYl> I wonder what they use vertical tab for 2024-07-01T13:57:05 < karlp> this: https://paste.jvnv.net/view/rmcNA 2024-07-01T13:57:25 < karlp> it's the katamari damacy approach to APIs, just keep bolting everythign on top of itself. 2024-07-01T13:57:59 < karlp> heaven help them if anyone ever starts fuzzing the port. 2024-07-01T13:58:56 < karlp> I now have switch with inner if/else/elseif shit, pages long, where some of the values are checked in hex, and some in decimal. 2024-07-01T13:59:31 < karlp> check fo cmd == 9, elseif check for cmd == 0xa, elseif cmd == 0xb, elseif cmd == 12. 2024-07-01T14:19:05 < jpa-> having 4 different command codes doesn't sound that crazy 2024-07-01T14:19:30 < jpa-> describing them as "vertical tab" instead of just 0x0b is a bit funny 2024-07-01T14:20:05 < karlp> well, there's more..... many more, and it's a mix of binary ones like that, and ascii ones, 2024-07-01T14:20:28 < karlp> and so yeah, I sent the "wrong" thing trying to test one of the "working" commands, and it's hard faulted. 2024-07-01T14:23:32 < qyx_> TIL vertical tab 2024-07-01T14:23:43 -!- qyx_ is now known as qyx 2024-07-01T14:26:02 -!- jbo_ [~jbo@user/tct] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T14:28:17 -!- jbo [~jbo@user/tct] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2024-07-01T14:36:50 < qyx> jpa-: added the tvs, thanks 2024-07-01T14:41:38 < jpa-> :) 2024-07-01T14:41:56 < karlp> qyx: is Vout on the FB of thehlmr36006 really 9.33V? 2024-07-01T14:42:13 < karlp> 12V with 100k+12k doens't seem right? 2024-07-01T14:43:56 < qyx> Vfb = 1 V, so yeah, Vout = 1/12*112 2024-07-01T14:44:26 < qyx> it is 9.33 2024-07-01T14:45:05 < qyx> it is a 12 V nominal, I want to drive the mosfets between 8-10 V 2024-07-01T14:45:47 < karlp> the position of the text wasn't what I was thinking that meant. 2024-07-01T14:47:17 < karlp> so, strlen crashes, what's the eabi args shit? 2024-07-01T14:48:38 < karlp> r3 and r4 are both garbage, but 5,6,7 look plausible valid. 2024-07-01T15:03:27 -!- jbo [~jbo@user/tct] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T15:05:04 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2024-07-01T15:05:44 -!- jbo_ [~jbo@user/tct] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-01T15:15:20 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T15:21:11 -!- jbo_ [~jbo@user/tct] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T15:22:14 -!- jbo [~jbo@user/tct] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-01T15:49:51 -!- LFSveteran [~LFSvetera@keymaker.msrv.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 2024-07-01T15:50:02 -!- LFSveteran [~LFSvetera@keymaker.msrv.nl] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T16:02:36 -!- Linux_Kerio 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2024-07-01T17:07:58 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T17:25:37 < qyx> esp32 libs not on a 0.1" grid 2024-07-01T17:53:21 < qyx> so esp32 basics for noobs are: EN is like NRST, 3V3 is the main power output with some decoupling, GPIO0 is like BOOT0 on stm32 (enter the bootloader when low)? 2024-07-01T18:41:03 < karlp> something like that. 2024-07-01T18:41:11 < karlp> there's a couple of other straps you may or may not care about 2024-07-01T18:48:26 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-01T19:04:28 -!- rob_w [~rob@2001:a61:604f:4b01:4dd7:1e84:ec8c:1fa1] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T19:06:15 < rob_w> would it be totally stupid to use a timer input , both edges and read out the cpu cycle counter on its interrupts to measure some frequency ? 2024-07-01T19:09:13 < karlp> it would seem like ignoring the timer itself, but sure, you can do that. 2024-07-01T19:09:28 < karlp> you're really just doing exti for the interrupt and using the cycle counter as the timer though.... 2024-07-01T19:46:43 < rob_w> im not ignoring , i am using it as dig counter on both edges, measuring a variable frequency 2024-07-01T20:26:51 < jpa-> if you are ok with the interrupt latency/jitter level of uncertainty, that is a reasonable way 2024-07-01T20:26:59 < jpa-> more advanced is to use DMA or to chain two timers 2024-07-01T20:27:46 < jpa-> also if you are measuring frequency, counting both edges seems counterproductive; if you measure rising to falling you'll get a weird combination of frequency and duty cycle 2024-07-01T20:32:26 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-6c50-1449-6f38-d543.fixed6.kpn.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T20:41:03 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-01T20:44:23 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T20:46:45 -!- dobson` 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think it's ignoring the timer) 2024-07-01T23:19:10 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-01T23:19:40 -!- flom84 [~flom84@user/flom84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-01T23:19:59 -!- flom84 [~flom84@user/flom84] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T23:20:17 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T23:22:25 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-01T23:38:49 -!- flom84 [~flom84@user/flom84] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-01T23:47:27 < qyx> he probably doesn't know about input capture --- Day changed ti heinĂ€ 02 2024 2024-07-02T00:09:58 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-02T00:11:55 < karlp> work and summer holidays do not combine to fill me with computing energy at night. 2024-07-02T00:19:11 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-02T00:33:49 -!- System_Error 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##stm32 2024-07-02T22:11:05 < jbo> zyp 2024-07-02T22:15:58 < qyx> hm teltonika is unresponsive on their tech support 2024-07-02T22:26:43 < jbo> they are probably getting blasted by SSH connections 2024-07-02T22:29:07 < qyx> what's the thing about ssh 2024-07-02T22:31:20 < qyx> oice 2024-07-02T22:31:29 < qyx> -e 2024-07-02T22:32:05 < qyx> which reminds me of the libxz "bug", how that story ended? 2024-07-02T22:57:37 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-02T23:00:46 < Steffanx> quite boring actually qyx. Just a lot of reviews and stuff 2024-07-02T23:14:07 < BrainDamage> the xz exploit was targeting only specific platforms, and got caught early 2024-07-02T23:14:46 < BrainDamage> there was a lot of buzz that the list of platforms that the bug could be active might be incomplete, but after careful analysis, it turned out that they got all of them right the first time 2024-07-02T23:15:44 < BrainDamage> the exploitability of the new ssh bug is also low 2024-07-02T23:16:15 < BrainDamage> you need a low latency link ( few ms ) and the target arch should be 32 bit or less for best hit rate 2024-07-02T23:16:43 < BrainDamage> it can still work with 64 bit and higher latency, but it's going to be a real stroke of luck if they can trigger it 2024-07-02T23:21:59 < jbo> BrainDamage, the problem is that critical infrastructure tends to have low latency links and luck based exploits tend to be just a matter of endurance/chance, so something will hit eventually. 2024-07-02T23:22:41 < BrainDamage> jbo: I'm not saying it's not a global problem 2024-07-02T23:22:57 < BrainDamage> but individually, you're rather safe, even if they actively try to target you 2024-07-02T23:23:16 < BrainDamage> your shitty connection is protecting you in this case 2024-07-02T23:23:55 < jbo> my shitty connection is two 10G/10G fibers 2024-07-02T23:24:26 < jbo> and my shitty connection is a 19" rack mount Xeon router 2024-07-02T23:24:45 < BrainDamage> I should also emphasize that that exploit wasn't been able to be reproduced on 64 bit 2024-07-02T23:25:02 < BrainDamage> there might be hits, but it's going to take a while 2024-07-02T23:25:14 < BrainDamage> so update your things, and no need to panic 2024-07-02T23:25:26 < jbo> oh not panicing 2024-07-02T23:25:34 < jbo> I updated within 60 minutes of getting the CVE 2024-07-02T23:25:40 < jbo> also nur running lunix :> 2024-07-02T23:25:54 < BrainDamage> and make sure to restart the sshd service, because since the forking mechanism changed, you'd be locked out otherwise 2024-07-02T23:26:35 < jbo> AFAIK the issue is coming from a regression in glibc 2024-07-02T23:26:38 < jbo> not running glibc here 2024-07-02T23:28:28 < BrainDamage> no, that's unrelated 2024-07-02T23:28:52 < BrainDamage> they changed the forking mechanism, and the forked processes talk back to the spawner 2024-07-02T23:29:09 < BrainDamage> so the ipc changed 2024-07-02T23:29:21 < BrainDamage> it happened already in the past with 8.something release 2024-07-02T23:33:38 < jbo> wait 2024-07-02T23:34:17 < jbo> wasn't this related to a glibc regression (fixed in 2006, but now broken again since 2020) regarding signal handling and the exploit is based on raising a SIGALRT which is handled incorrectly? 2024-07-02T23:34:41 < BrainDamage> the EXPLOIT is due to the bug, but the fix changed the forking mechanism 2024-07-02T23:34:49 < jbo> oh, yeah. so we agree 2024-07-02T23:35:09 < BrainDamage> so the result is that the daemon has to be restarted, even if you're not vulnerable 2024-07-02T23:35:20 < jbo> certainly, yes. 2024-07-02T23:35:26 < jbo> done that. 2024-07-02T23:36:21 < BrainDamage> and if you don't restart after updating, you'll be locked out 2024-07-02T23:36:31 < jbo> agreed 2024-07-02T23:41:09 -!- qyx_ [~qyx@84.245.120.19] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-02T23:43:34 -!- qyx [~qyx@84.245.120.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-02T23:46:10 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed ke heinĂ€ 03 2024 2024-07-03T00:42:01 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@2a01:e11:200d:8dd0:8d:a692:81d9:3488] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-03T00:53:06 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2024-07-03T01:59:39 -!- Mangy_Dog [Mangy_Dog@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-03T02:08:09 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-20ce-772c-47a2-91a8.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-03T02:59:45 -!- NEYi 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host closed the connection] 2024-07-03T15:57:10 < ventYl> does stm run some sanity checks on e-mail addresses where they are willing to send kubaIDE download link? 2024-07-03T16:08:58 < ventYl> ah, no they don' 2024-07-03T16:09:14 < ventYl> t. the shit's just broken and it took one page reload before it sent me the link. 2024-07-03T16:10:09 < ventYl> maybe, after 25th reload it will start working 2024-07-03T16:10:40 < ventYl> because posting shit directly on the web would make both hands of the whole STM board rot off 2024-07-03T16:13:29 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-03T16:21:34 < ventYl> wow that's some awful UX there 2024-07-03T17:18:17 < jbo> zyp 2024-07-03T17:19:44 < jbo> I have an FOC question 2024-07-03T17:19:55 -!- fenugrec [~f@192.214.232.39] has quit [Quit: fenugrec] 2024-07-03T17:31:04 < c10ud> I also have a question, do you know of anyone building a foc driver at 12V for driving 48V motors 1kw? 2024-07-03T17:31:12 < c10ud> basically a stepup+motor driver... 2024-07-03T17:36:42 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-03T17:38:59 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-03T17:43:43 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-03T18:40:18 < jpa-> c10ud: it's probably easier to do normal dc-dc to 48V first and then normal FOC after that 2024-07-03T18:40:57 < jbo> +1 2024-07-03T18:41:00 < jpa-> theoretically you could make a boost-mode motor controller instead of the normal buck mode, but boost control loop is lot less stable so it gets annoying 2024-07-03T18:41:38 < jpa-> also if you are fine with 1/4th of the rated speed, you can run the motor at 12V 2024-07-03T18:47:08 < c10ud> yup, that's what i figured 2024-07-03T18:47:51 < c10ud> speed must be nominal, that's the reason of the difficulty.. 2024-07-03T18:48:45 < c10ud> 12V-48V is because of battery powered systems 2024-07-03T18:51:48 < c10ud> I would be interested in buying tho lol 2024-07-03T18:52:42 < jpa-> you can buy 48V FOC controllers and 12V->48V stepup converters easily 2024-07-03T18:54:37 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-03T18:56:16 < qyx_> just use a 48 V battery then? 2024-07-03T19:01:11 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-03T19:10:08 < c10ud> qyx_, i wish I could change all potential clients batteries to 48V 2024-07-03T19:11:19 < c10ud> jpa-, do you know of any reputed industrial-y supplier? 2024-07-03T19:12:07 < jpa-> of which? 2024-07-03T19:12:20 < c10ud> 48v foc driver 2024-07-03T19:13:08 < jpa-> for permanent magnet or for induction motor? 2024-07-03T19:13:23 < c10ud> pmsm 2024-07-03T19:17:42 < jpa-> https://electromen.com/en/products/item/motor-controllers/brushless-dc-motor/EM-347B something like this maybe? 2024-07-03T19:18:05 < jpa-> err 2024-07-03T19:18:11 < jpa-> forgot the foc already :) 2024-07-03T19:19:46 < c10ud> kinda, except well for the foc thing 2024-07-03T19:19:55 < c10ud> startup is open loop, then shall support foc 2024-07-03T19:20:04 < jpa-> no sensors? 2024-07-03T19:20:14 < c10ud> other than that..inertia will be BIG, that is why "industrial-y" 2024-07-03T19:20:43 < jpa-> i can't see why inertia would matter for industrialness 2024-07-03T19:21:24 < c10ud> idk, i've already seen drives exploding 2024-07-03T19:21:38 < jpa-> no braking shunt? 2024-07-03T19:21:40 < c10ud> because big load wasn't going well with simple pid 2024-07-03T19:21:46 < c10ud> no braking shunt 2024-07-03T19:22:16 < jpa-> have you considered maybe it's overvolting on deceleration? 2024-07-03T19:24:10 < c10ud> in this specific machine it would be nice if we could regen the battery 2024-07-03T19:24:23 < c10ud> in other machines we have, the output stage needs to handle it 2024-07-03T19:24:36 < c10ud> and it does 2024-07-03T19:25:20 < jpa-> regen to battery through the step-up will be a bit problematic, but doable 2024-07-03T19:29:23 < jpa-> but yeah, seems like 1+kW FOC drives are a bit harder to find than i expected 2024-07-03T19:29:46 < c10ud> yeah...there are a few things around the net 2024-07-03T19:29:56 < c10ud> but thing is, i wouldn't use an i.e. odrive for a commercial product 2024-07-03T19:30:11 < c10ud> because when the guy is tired we're fucked 2024-07-03T19:31:07 < jpa-> isn't that true of any manufacturer? at some point every product line will be discontinued 2024-07-03T19:31:14 < jpa-> you just have to handle it when it happens 2024-07-03T19:31:23 -!- sauce [~sauce@free.and.open.sauce.icu] has quit [] 2024-07-03T19:31:43 < jpa-> with odrive it seems like you would have the option of producing them yourself if needed, except that components will also be unavailable at some point 2024-07-03T19:33:32 < c10ud> you either go too big to fail, or too friendly to fuck you in case anything goes wrong e.g. you get the project 2024-07-03T19:34:16 < jpa-> a company doesn't need to fail for it to discontinue a product line 2024-07-03T19:35:17 < c10ud> yea, but you get the idea 2024-07-03T19:35:22 < jpa-> i really don't 2024-07-03T19:38:53 < c10ud> alright, but still not so easy to find with the spec i've asked 2024-07-03T19:39:18 < jpa-> i agree 2024-07-03T19:39:42 < jpa-> odrive is an option worth considering, but i agree that there can be reasons not to choose it 2024-07-03T19:42:09 < c10ud> electromen was interesting though 2024-07-03T19:47:18 -!- sauce [~sauce@free.and.open.sauce.icu] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-03T20:05:28 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-03T20:09:09 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2024-07-03T20:26:13 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-03T20:42:37 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-d072-c4b8-5bf0-6903.fixed6.kpn.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-03T20:54:51 -!- Linux_Kerio 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a regular motor controller is effectively a buck regulator with the motor as the inductor 2024-07-04T11:19:13 < qyx> but in that case a boost converter + classic 3 phase HB is less mosfets 2024-07-04T11:19:42 < zyp> and I'm having issues seeing how you'd practically use the motor as the inductor in a boost converter 2024-07-04T11:20:05 < qyx> ah 2024-07-04T11:20:34 < qyx> you would probably have to use inductors in the controller then 2024-07-04T11:20:38 < qyx> or connect the motor with 6 wires 2024-07-04T11:22:43 < qyx> ok bs 2024-07-04T11:23:04 < qyx> anyway my bldc inverter is shipped 2024-07-04T11:24:08 < zyp> we've got a project at work that I've been peripherally involved in that drives a 24V brushed motor with 48V that's stepped up from 24V, or something like that 2024-07-04T11:25:41 < zyp> I think the stepup is also variable 2024-07-04T11:26:29 < zyp> I'm not sure how sound the control theory in that project is, but it's not my project, so idk 2024-07-04T11:27:55 < zyp> given that it's a brushed motor, there's limits to how wrong it can be 2024-07-04T11:29:08 < qyx> if there is a filtering inductor at the output of a buck driver, you can probably just reuse it as a boost inductor 2024-07-04T11:29:32 < qyx> boost is continuous on the output so not much to filter there 2024-07-04T11:30:35 < qyx> so maybe changing the mosfet topology is the only thing needed 2024-07-04T11:33:30 < jpa-> the BEMF voltage being in series with the coil indeed makes that problematic 2024-07-04T11:34:21 < jpa-> you could have per-phase boost converter with separate inductor on the driver pcb, but that would be silly 2024-07-04T11:34:52 < jpa-> qyx: since when is boost continuous on output? 2024-07-04T11:35:36 < qyx> isn't it? oh the oher way around 2024-07-04T11:35:51 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-cd8a-5dff-127c-f93f.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-04T11:40:00 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-cd8a-5dff-127c-f93f.fixed6.kpn.net] has 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2024-07-04T12:09:34 < jpa-> 125A is probably on the level that you'll direct-wire the high current path instead of trying to run it on PCB 2024-07-04T12:09:48 < jpa-> with crimped & bolted connectors etc. 2024-07-04T12:10:37 < jpa-> but yeah, sync boost is nice and also you can run it with constant duty cycle in which case it is immune to stability issues 2024-07-04T12:11:23 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-04T12:11:25 < jpa-> (as long as you are fine with continuous conduction mode, with the efficiency losses at low load) 2024-07-04T12:14:08 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-04T12:21:37 < jpa-> regarding keeping nominal RPM with lower Vbus, there is also the field weakening option; but it reduces torque and efficiency 2024-07-04T12:28:34 -!- Spirit532 [~Spirit532@user/Spirit532] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Spirit5325))] 2024-07-04T12:28:39 -!- Spirit532 [~Spirit532@user/Spirit532] 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But who can remember the name(s) anyway? 😋 2024-07-05T15:34:49 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-05T15:48:31 < specing> Italy is literaly Mordor 2024-07-05T16:37:25 < karlp> Steffanx: that's ok, they're not doing much other than burning money... 2024-07-05T16:45:32 < karlp> neat, I just segfaulted picocom. 2024-07-05T16:48:51 < karlp> lol, it's been fixed in the weird "no longer a maintainer, here' sa new fork" by... someone else I know from other projects 2024-07-05T16:49:04 < karlp> I sometimes wonder how I keep running into the same people 2024-07-05T16:49:11 < karlp> open source really seems surprisingly small sometimes. 2024-07-05T16:51:15 < karlp> fuckign bug since 2020 in the "no longer maintained" project. 2024-07-05T16:52:10 -!- blathijs [~matthijs@tika.stderr.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.5] 2024-07-05T16:52:51 < karlp> oh god, now there's two "future" ones, and none of them have been picked up by any distros. 2024-07-05T16:52:55 -!- blathijs [~matthijs@tika.stderr.nl] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T17:04:27 -!- Xeroine [~Xeroine@user/xeroine] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-05T17:12:46 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@176-93-32-254.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T17:14:17 -!- Xeroine [~Xeroine@user/xeroine] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T17:16:24 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T17:23:16 < zyp> karlp, I've never used picocom, but if you just need a serial terminal you should try tio 2024-07-05T17:23:23 < Steffanx> The volvjkdikvljpk was quite busy I few years back I remember that now karlp 2024-07-05T17:23:32 < Steffanx> *active 2024-07-05T17:25:02 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-05T17:31:02 < stgl> karlp, you could try minicom, it's not as minimal but it is actively maintained 2024-07-05T17:32:52 < Steffanx> tio supports Karl's favorite scripting language Lua.. cant say no now 2024-07-05T17:33:55 < karlp> tio? 2024-07-05T17:34:23 < karlp> stgl: but minicom is gross, and still thinks I want to talk to a fucking modem. 2024-07-05T17:34:43 < karlp> stgl: i was just trying out a very esoteric feature I didn't even know it had, so I just... didn't use that. 2024-07-05T17:35:46 < karlp> ahh, fedora 41 will move to one of the forks. 2024-07-05T17:38:13 < zyp> just use tio 2024-07-05T17:38:24 < zyp> it's a modern thing that knows modems doesn't exist anymore 2024-07-05T17:41:10 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T17:48:54 * karlp shall try it out. 2024-07-05T17:54:51 < karlp> hrm, mostly works. cant' change baud rate on the fly though. 2024-07-05T18:07:56 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-05T18:30:34 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-05T18:31:03 -!- GenTooMan [~cyberman@2601:547:437f:e5c6:21f:5bff:fefe:a883] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T18:31:48 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T18:42:13 < qyx> I am using screen 2024-07-05T18:42:21 < qyx> I haven't seen anyging simpler 2024-07-05T18:46:51 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2024-07-05T19:14:12 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T20:06:41 < nomorekaki> have you patched your ssh yet? 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NAT is one of them. NAT shouldn't be the only one. 2024-07-05T22:20:21 < BrainDamage> yeah, defense in depth goes a long way 2024-07-05T22:21:11 < BrainDamage> what people mean that something is not security is security in the sense of crypto 2024-07-05T22:21:33 < BrainDamage> as in, not with all the resources in the world they can violate the encryption, that's what they call secure 2024-07-05T22:21:45 < BrainDamage> but it's an unrealistic standard for ...everything else 2024-07-05T22:22:45 < BrainDamage> assume that the attacker has physical access and sufficient time and almost every, if not every, system fails 2024-07-05T22:28:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-76-135-53-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T22:28:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-76-135-53-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2024-07-05T22:28:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-76-135-53-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-05T22:34:05 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 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[~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-1046-606-b250-ff3c.fixed6.kpn.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-06T14:58:38 -!- HelloShitty [~psysc0rpi@bl6-131-96.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-06T15:06:59 -!- drzacek [~quassel@2a01:3d8:4ed:d900:1931:b078:f61c:941d] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-06T15:20:22 < karlp> fucking btrfs. delete 8GB, free up zero space. 2024-07-06T15:21:02 < BrainDamage> it did free it up, but it might take a minute to show up 2024-07-06T15:21:07 < BrainDamage> because it has to GC it 2024-07-06T15:21:32 < BrainDamage> unless it was duplicated data 2024-07-06T15:21:38 < BrainDamage> in which case, it's 0 2024-07-06T15:21:46 < karlp> well, it actually has this time, but yeah, sometimes I delete shit and get nothing. 2024-07-06T15:22:25 < karlp> harddrive repair has arrived, more backups in process, then eventually I can do the surgery replacing the 500GB ssd root drive witht he 2T one that's been sitting on my desk for a few months 2024-07-06T15:22:34 < karlp> too manythings in the chain of shit to do :) 2024-07-06T15:25:27 < BrainDamage> if you want to gain a truckload of space in btrfs, enable compression and/or deduplicate data 2024-07-06T15:25:37 < BrainDamage> I got ~30% more available space 2024-07-06T15:25:53 < BrainDamage> the penality is that when you'll delete things, you might not gain space back 2024-07-06T15:26:13 < karlp> eh, getting through my cleanu and re-org tasks so that I can install this bigger ssd that's already bought and paid for will make this all go away pretty well. 2024-07-06T15:26:22 < specing> ^ 2024-07-06T15:26:57 < BrainDamage> enabling compression is a 1-line change 2024-07-06T15:27:52 < BrainDamage> when you enable compression, it merely requests it, it won't actually compress it unless it's newly written data, and it's data for which it heuristically thinks it benefits from it 2024-07-06T15:28:20 < BrainDamage> so just set in the mount options compress=zstd 2024-07-06T15:28:36 < BrainDamage> bonus point, the drives will feel faster too, since there's less data to transfer 2024-07-06T15:31:35 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@91.177.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-06T15:31:39 < Laurenceb_> https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1720234790244851.webm 2024-07-06T16:00:25 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-06T16:15:37 < qyx> wat, compressing with zstd on a ssd is faster than raw ssd access? 2024-07-06T16:21:02 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@176-93-32-254.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-06T16:48:03 < jpa-> theoretically yes, but in practice the blocksize variation tends to nullify the benefit 2024-07-06T16:48:37 -!- drzacek [~quassel@2a01:3d8:4ed:d900:1931:b078:f61c:941d] has quit [Quit: quit] 2024-07-06T16:54:07 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@91.177.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2024-07-06T17:05:14 < BrainDamage> it's not theoretically here, benchmarks give me faster speed 2024-07-06T17:05:29 < BrainDamage> on my actual disk data, not synthetic ones 2024-07-06T17:08:18 < qyx> on a nvme? 2024-07-06T17:08:21 < qyx> wild 2024-07-06T17:08:25 < qyx> what cpu? 2024-07-06T17:15:29 < BrainDamage> i7-7700HQ 2024-07-06T17:15:39 < BrainDamage> it's a bit old by now 2024-07-06T17:16:26 < BrainDamage> SSD io is 900MB/s r, 780MB/s w 2024-07-06T17:17:31 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@176-93-32-254.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2024-07-06T17:17:47 < qyx> oh I have that mobile J4105 or what is it 2024-07-06T17:18:47 < BrainDamage> even if it was equal io perf, it'd still be worth for the space gain 2024-07-06T17:22:59 < qyx> J4115, raw nvme read is 1.1 GB/s 2024-07-06T17:23:13 < qyx> I decompress lzop at about 400 MB/s 2024-07-06T17:23:38 < qyx> anyway, I am not using btrfs, so meh 2024-07-06T17:24:30 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2024-07-06T17:29:48 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 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qyx> they parted ways in april or so? 2024-07-06T23:57:45 < qyx> nomorekaki: idk 2024-07-06T23:59:36 < qyx> at least t.b. not ded yet 2024-07-06T23:59:59 < Steffanx> Oh first time I hear this qyx. --- Day changed su heinĂ€ 07 2024 2024-07-07T00:00:20 < Steffanx> But they composers aren't dead so... 2024-07-07T00:29:03 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-1046-606-b250-ff3c.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2024-07-07T00:46:23 -!- drzacek [~quassel@2a01:3d8:4ed:d900:1931:b078:f61c:941d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-07T00:59:04 < Steffanx> -y 2024-07-07T02:05:10 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-07T02:13:05 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@jindivik.force9.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2024-07-07T02:45:51 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-07T03:22:27 -!- Mangy_Dog [Mangy_Dog@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-07T03:35:50 -!- martinmoene__ 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jbo> everything ded 2024-07-08T18:09:05 < qyx> these mosfets are pretty expensive, I need 6 of them, should I buy 6? 2024-07-08T18:09:17 < qyx> jpa- is a pro regarding this kind of things 2024-07-08T18:09:27 < zyp> good luck 2024-07-08T18:23:30 < qyx> not a single one will be killed 2024-07-08T18:32:28 < jbo> I'm looking for an ESD diode suitable for protection of an RF input (LTE / GPS) 2024-07-08T18:32:37 < jbo> module manufacturer recommends PESD0402-140 2024-07-08T18:32:38 < qyx> avx has them 2024-07-08T18:32:45 < jbo> but I'd like something in a larger package (more 0603 type) 2024-07-08T18:32:50 < jbo> any recommendations? 2024-07-08T18:32:58 < qyx> I forgot, mmt 2024-07-08T18:34:08 < qyx> last time I selected LXES15AAA1 2024-07-08T18:34:14 < qyx> but restricted and eol apparently? 2024-07-08T18:34:40 < jbo> looks that way 2024-07-08T18:35:00 < jbo> also 0402-ish package. wouldn't mind a 0603 because $friend wants to assemble himself 2024-07-08T18:36:01 < BrainDamage> bigger packages means higher parasitic capacitance of the package, so they won't be as popular 2024-07-08T18:36:38 < qyx> mine definitely was 0603 2024-07-08T18:36:45 < jbo> BrainDamage, agreed - hence I'm asking here :) 2024-07-08T18:40:04 < jbo> qyx, looks like 0402 to me 2024-07-08T18:43:30 < qyx> I had some avx rf guard or what the thing was 2024-07-08T18:47:32 < jbo> qyx, could you look up the part number if it's not too much effort? 2024-07-08T18:48:42 < qyx> I already checked 3 designs and all of them had LXES.. 2024-07-08T18:48:49 < qyx> idk which one was the avx thing 2024-07-08T18:51:05 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-08T18:51:49 < qyx> just select a manufacturer and search for their RF products 2024-07-08T18:52:26 < qyx> re: the recent talk about boost motor drives, would pros think doing 15 kW with a 96 battery is feasible? 2024-07-08T18:53:13 < qyx> idk if 96 V is not too much to run the motor at slow speed 2024-07-08T19:41:08 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-08T20:04:59 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-08T20:24:11 < jbo> zyp is motor pro 2024-07-08T20:36:42 < BrainDamage> as voltage increases, so will the timing constraints on the duty cycle 2024-07-08T20:39:24 -!- Xeroine [~Xeroine@user/xeroine] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-08T20:43:46 < qyx> I know, I talked with him about it 2024-07-08T20:44:36 < qyx> BrainDamage: I mean wrt. the v/f curve as the f approaches zero, because with a boost stage the minimum voltage would be 96 V 2024-07-08T20:44:52 < zyp> jbo, nah, I'm just parroting things jpa- told me 2024-07-08T20:45:14 < qyx> or I need a buckboost, or a boost in front of a 3ph "buck" bridge, as was suggested 2024-07-08T20:45:56 < jbo> in zyp we trust 2024-07-08T20:46:05 < qyx> amen 2024-07-08T20:47:44 < Steffanx> In jbo I trust 2024-07-08T20:47:58 < jbo> <3 2024-07-08T20:48:00 < Steffanx> Jbo is the greatest 2024-07-08T20:48:00 < jbo> we should meet again 2024-07-08T20:48:05 < jbo> I have grey hairs now 2024-07-08T20:48:25 < Steffanx> Lol me too 😓 2024-07-08T20:50:15 < jbo> I'll show you mine if you show me yours 2024-07-08T20:50:27 -!- digimer [~digimer@198.96.117.124] has left ##stm32 [] 2024-07-08T20:53:12 < Steffanx> Is your place still the most sunny in entire swisserland? 2024-07-08T20:53:24 < jbo> I moved to a different appartment but yep 2024-07-08T20:53:30 < jbo> literally haven't had a worse day since you left 2024-07-08T20:53:42 < jbo> and we had a flooding killing people in the meantime 2024-07-08T20:53:48 < jbo> it was still nicer weather than when you visted lol 2024-07-08T20:54:57 < jbo> actually, I moved to a different appartment twice since you visited 2024-07-08T20:55:47 < Steffanx> I don't even remember when this was.. 2024-07-08T20:56:26 < jbo> 2018 AFAIK 2024-07-08T20:56:31 < jbo> maybe 2017 2024-07-08T20:56:38 < jbo> yeah 2017 2024-07-08T20:59:04 < Steffanx> heh 2024-07-08T21:02:22 < jbo> do you guys think it's a problem if I have the Vcc decoupling caps of a cellular module close to the antenna section? 2024-07-08T21:02:23 < jbo> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/5btFu 2024-07-08T21:21:12 < jpa-> qyx: regarding max Vdc voltage vs. motor speed, you'd want to calculate so that motor inductance (+ filter inductance) doesn't get excessive ripple current at the on-time needed for the motor running voltage 2024-07-08T21:22:44 < jpa-> often highest ripple is not at the near-0 voltage/speed, but rather at some point closer to 50% 2024-07-08T21:23:15 < jpa-> high ripple current will cause motor overheating 2024-07-08T21:33:43 < jbo> I did not know that jpa- is motor pro 2024-07-08T21:33:46 < jbo> is it a finnish thing? 2024-07-08T21:35:52 < Steffanx> a jpa thing 2024-07-08T21:37:18 < jpa-> on internet you can be anything you want to be 2024-07-08T21:44:35 < jbo> I want to be with you 2024-07-08T21:52:11 < jbo> we can make a little jpao- 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about cat 1bis? 2024-07-08T22:09:31 < jbo> yeah that 2024-07-08T22:09:39 < Steffanx> and back to the good old 9600 baud? 2024-07-08T22:09:46 < jbo> no 2024-07-08T22:09:52 < Steffanx> :( 2024-07-08T22:10:11 < zyp> jbo, so eg800q? 2024-07-08T22:10:29 < jbo> zyp, ublox lena r8 2024-07-08T22:10:36 < jbo> gotta swiss when you can swiss 2024-07-08T22:10:44 < jbo> part of the passport terms of service 2024-07-08T22:11:08 < Steffanx> Better ask mawk about the secret codes for LTE testing. 2024-07-08T22:12:11 < zyp> I worked on a project that were gonna use eg800q, but then the client ran away 2024-07-08T22:16:57 < jbo> those pesky clients 2024-07-08T22:19:06 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-08T22:22:19 < zyp> not really sure what happened with that, but the theory is that he gave the go ahead too early and then the funding fell through, so he ran away from the bill for the time spent so far 2024-07-08T22:22:51 < zyp> a shame, was a fun project 2024-07-08T22:23:04 < jbo> sorry to hear that :( 2024-07-08T22:23:38 < zyp> first work project I managed to talk a greenpak into too :p 2024-07-08T22:27:04 < jbo> seems to have worked out well :p 2024-07-08T22:27:48 < zyp> nah, it would have been great 2024-07-08T22:28:37 < zyp> I was in the middle of prototyping/specifying the greenpak logic when the project got canned 2024-07-08T22:48:08 < qyx> today I spent 10 minutes of my precious life searching for a particulat song sung by a mongolian singer 2024-07-08T22:48:19 < qyx> now it is time to move on with some projects 2024-07-08T22:48:20 < jbo> better invoice the client for that 2024-07-08T22:49:50 < qyx> jpa-: translated for those less gifted - does it mean that I start 0 Hz on a nonzero voltage, which is usually 1/2 the nominal? 2024-07-08T23:16:40 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-08T23:40:49 -!- alan_o [~alan_o@172-7-159-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 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just 1 volt or so, and time_on is low also, so ripple current is low 2024-07-09T10:23:20 < jpa-> qyx: but when you get to some 30-50% of max speed the average (rms) phase voltage is about half of supply and time_on is half of PWM period and ripple current is at its maximum 2024-07-09T10:24:20 < jpa-> at that point ripple current is about time_on * Vsupply/2 / Lphase 2024-07-09T10:27:54 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-09T11:17:18 -!- Mangy_Dog [Mangy_Dog@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T11:59:00 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T12:26:53 -!- Spirit532 [~Spirit532@user/Spirit532] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2024-07-09T12:28:50 -!- Spirit532 [~Spirit532@user/Spirit532] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T12:34:19 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2024-07-09T12:51:36 < karlp> qyx: was the mongolian song this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDzN_GwJfG0 2024-07-09T13:31:06 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2024-07-09T13:50:59 -!- ilgrim [~ilgrim@xinu.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-09T14:13:18 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T14:16:11 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T14:51:57 < karlp> huh, TIL that %#x only prefixes 0x if the value is non zero. 2024-07-09T14:52:20 < karlp> what fucking trash. 2024-07-09T14:53:55 < qyx> jpa-: oh 2024-07-09T14:54:44 < qyx> karlp: no :> it was some kind of trance with Uyanga Bold vocals apparently 2024-07-09T15:09:08 < zyp> karlp, huh, python gets it right though 2024-07-09T15:20:09 < qyx> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/5XFbA/Screenshot_2024-07-09_14-19-49.png 2024-07-09T15:20:13 < qyx> Unrouted: 429 2024-07-09T15:23:23 < mawk> I always do 0x%X anyway 2024-07-09T15:23:39 < zyp> 0x-3 2024-07-09T15:23:39 < mawk> %#X uses 0X instead of 0x which is incredibly ugly 2024-07-09T15:24:01 < zyp> well. duh 2024-07-09T15:24:08 < mawk> alpha males use unsigned numbers zyp 2024-07-09T15:24:18 < zyp> write lowercase x if you want lower case x 2024-07-09T15:24:29 < mawk> I don't want lowercase 2024-07-09T15:24:36 < mawk> I want uppercase digits with lowercase x 2024-07-09T15:24:42 < zyp> oh 2024-07-09T15:24:43 < qyx> lowercase is the only correct way 2024-07-09T15:24:43 < zyp> fuck off 2024-07-09T15:24:48 < mawk> lol 2024-07-09T15:24:49 < qyx> 0x123a 2024-07-09T15:24:54 < mawk> 0x123A 2024-07-09T15:25:02 < qyx> no, go away 2024-07-09T15:25:06 < mawk> it's beautiful 2024-07-09T15:26:58 < qyx> hm I knew I am missing something, TME order hasn't arrived yet as it was supposed to 2024-07-09T15:29:12 < qyx> unrelated, that lolwon SPE3102 is incredibly loud when used as a high power charger 2024-07-09T15:29:30 < qyx> for normal stuff <100 mA it has the fan off 2024-07-09T15:29:44 < qyx> but 14 V 5 A is like a mig29 overhead 2024-07-09T15:30:16 < qyx> let's try more amps 2024-07-09T15:31:30 < qyx> pushing 110 W noq 2024-07-09T15:57:07 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T16:56:31 < ColdKeyboard> Before I ask, I just want to state that I have not lost my calendar and I know what year it is... 2024-07-09T16:56:43 * karlp grabs popkorn 2024-07-09T16:56:47 < karlp> this already sounds good :) 2024-07-09T16:56:59 < ColdKeyboard> Now anyone have a suggestion for IC to use for MP3/FLAC player? 2024-07-09T16:57:05 * BrainDamage lubs the slide ruler 2024-07-09T16:57:18 < ColdKeyboard> For some reason I have an itch to build my own "mp3" player 2024-07-09T16:57:41 < BrainDamage> wouldn't it be easier to just grab a general pourpose cpu module? 2024-07-09T16:57:50 < ColdKeyboard> I use MP3 more as a "form-factor" but I mean portable audio player (ie iPod or the '00 player) 2024-07-09T16:58:07 < ColdKeyboard> BrainDamage I don't know, that's why I'm asking if anyone has experience/suggestions :) 2024-07-09T16:58:33 < BrainDamage> you have the huge benefit that you can use a normal os and normal libs 2024-07-09T16:58:43 < BrainDamage> which also means codec flexibility 2024-07-09T16:59:03 < ColdKeyboard> I like that! 2024-07-09T16:59:28 < qyx> with linux you can't go lower than 0.4 W at idle 2024-07-09T16:59:34 < qyx> generally 2024-07-09T16:59:51 < ColdKeyboard> And for the amplifier, I assume there is some off-the-shelf IC that is designed for headphone application? 2024-07-09T17:00:03 < qyx> even underperforming imx6 or sama5d27 can't go lower 2024-07-09T17:00:19 < BrainDamage> for the amp, there's thousands of ics 2024-07-09T17:00:29 < qyx> if I wanted a toy project to burn some free time, I would go with U5 2024-07-09T17:00:33 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-09T17:03:01 < ColdKeyboard> That sounds like what I had in mind. Have MCU/CPU do the FS, DSP and DAC, and then have the headphone amp IC and that's pretty much it. Add battery and charger, few buttons and I should be good to go. Maybe a screen too. 2024-07-09T17:05:08 < qyx> but since I have another 7 toy projects burning my free time, I have none anymore 2024-07-09T17:05:28 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T17:10:07 -!- rob_w [~bob@2001:a61:603a:7001:387f:45e7:48e9:ff9b] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-09T17:41:14 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2024-07-09T17:44:21 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T18:02:22 -!- vampirefrog [~vampirefr@2a02:2f09:d201:bb00:2d8:61ff:fe17:8a57] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-09T18:23:16 < jbo> I hope everybody is feeling lovely today 2024-07-09T18:23:24 < jbo> for I have come to bring you joy 2024-07-09T18:23:55 < qyx> bring me money instead 2024-07-09T18:23:59 < qyx> joy is boring 2024-07-09T18:24:46 < jbo> awww... the one thing I don't have (anymore) :( 2024-07-09T18:25:41 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2024-07-09T18:45:29 -!- MGF_Fabio [~MGF_Fabio@host-217-58-46-226.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-09T19:06:09 < Steffanx> Money is overrated. 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2024-07-10T12:23:40 < karlp> if I had to guess, a broadcom wifi/bluetooth module? 2024-07-10T12:50:36 -!- krjst [~krjst@2604:a880:800:c1::16b:8001] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-10T12:52:24 -!- krjst [~krjst@2604:a880:800:c1::16b:8001] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T12:58:16 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-10T14:15:51 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-10T14:16:18 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T14:27:02 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T14:57:37 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T15:12:30 < qyx> Unrouted: 32, progress is slow 2024-07-10T15:48:42 < Steffanx> Thanks for the update though :P 2024-07-10T15:57:39 < qyx> also expecting my bldc inverter PCBs 2024-07-10T15:57:45 < qyx> and some sun blinds esp32 controllers 2024-07-10T16:23:23 < mawk> it's BLTC 2024-07-10T16:26:13 < zyp> trapezoidal? 2024-07-10T16:28:36 < qyx> unrouted 3! 2024-07-10T16:29:04 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-10T16:29:10 < qyx> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/9Rh0z/Screenshot_2024-07-10_15-28-54.png 2024-07-10T16:31:45 < qyx> canable arrived too apparently, waiting in a locker box and baking at a nice 36 °C 2024-07-10T16:32:56 -!- josuah [~josuah@46.23.94.12] has quit [Quit: josuah] 2024-07-10T16:43:19 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-10T16:48:11 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T16:49:01 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T17:06:32 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2024-07-10T17:09:07 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T18:10:09 < jbo> is there any harm in routing I2C SDA/SCL lines close to a 24 MHz crystal? 2024-07-10T18:10:28 < jbo> my brain says "no" but my brain also says "always doubt everything" 2024-07-10T18:29:29 < qyx> if close is 10 mm then no harm 2024-07-10T18:32:26 < jbo> it's more like 2mm 2024-07-10T18:36:38 -!- drzacek [~quassel@2a01:3d8:3a9:3900:2779:5f90:54b5:5fe] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T18:41:29 < BrainDamage> do you have a ground pour inbetween? 2024-07-10T18:42:27 < jbo> nope 2024-07-10T18:43:17 < jbo> on a 4L board, do people generally carve out a section of the ground plane below the crystal or not? and why? 2024-07-10T18:45:20 < BrainDamage> normally you carve sections of the ground plane to isolate current return paths 2024-07-10T18:45:59 < jbo> indeed - would you do that below a crystal? 2024-07-10T18:46:09 < BrainDamage> eg you have sensitive analogue rf, and you want to avoid for digital currents to flow through that, so you create an island, and connect to 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jbo> aye, that makes sense 2024-07-10T18:50:38 < jbo> thank you Sir! 2024-07-10T18:50:56 < jbo> yeah the entire I2C bus length on board is 100mm 2024-07-10T18:52:00 < jbo> I wonder if I need two sets of pull-ups for that 2024-07-10T18:52:09 < jbo> in the past, I did boards with 200mm I2C and I placed two sets of pull-ups 2024-07-10T18:58:50 < qyx> what for? 2024-07-10T19:15:11 < qyx> Unrouted: 0! 2024-07-10T19:17:03 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-10T19:59:57 -!- englishman [englishman@user/englishman] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-10T20:00:16 -!- englishman [englishman@user/englishman] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T20:12:37 -!- kow__ [~k\o\w@2607:fea8:1d00:89f0:3834:2878:3342:283f] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-10T20:16:31 -!- drkow [~k\o\w@2607:fea8:1d00:89f0:3834:2878:3342:283f] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2024-07-10T20:27:41 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-10T20:56:12 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the morning: I have a class managing a connection, it has a FSM, one of its states is Online 2024-07-11T10:57:23 < qyx> should be the socket/client/whatever part of the connection manager class or is it better to encapsulate it directly in the Online FSM state class? 2024-07-11T10:58:03 < qyx> (the thing is able to communicate only when in the Online state) 2024-07-11T11:02:23 -!- Mangy_Dog [Mangy_Dog@user/mangy-dog/x-7397214] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-11T11:07:10 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2024-07-11T11:17:30 < ventYl> single responsibility principle 2024-07-11T11:17:48 < ventYl> socket is socket, connection manager is connection manager 2024-07-11T11:20:27 < zyp> wtf is a «FSM state class»? 2024-07-11T11:20:51 < qyx> states in a FSM are implemented as classes 2024-07-11T11:24:10 < zyp> okay, hard to have any opinion without knowing how your stuff fits together 2024-07-11T11:39:00 -!- Linux_Kerio 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assumption that only one state will ever need the socket is a bit weird IMO 2024-07-11T14:26:22 < karlp> the state is "using network" :) 2024-07-11T14:26:50 < qyx> what, have you never seen FSM OOP patterns 2024-07-11T14:28:03 < qyx> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_pattern#Structure 2024-07-11T14:28:58 < qyx> there is a state "interface" with all states implementing it, it has eg. onLeave, onEnter, onTimeout, onInterval, etc. 2024-07-11T14:30:53 < qyx> and as karlp says, network access is only allowed in a single one state, when it is entered, a connection is made 2024-07-11T14:31:08 < qyx> if there is an error, state changes to wait_reconnect or whatever 2024-07-11T14:31:39 < qyx> if it succeeds, the FSM stays in that connected state until the state timeouts or something request a transition to offline 2024-07-11T14:31:43 < qyx> on that case it disconnects 2024-07-11T14:33:00 < qyx> ok but yeah the state would need a reference to *something*, eg. the data model, message buffer or 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DSL-like ohy too 2024-07-12T13:04:58 < qyx> *phy 2024-07-12T13:05:47 < zyp> why are you even interested in this? 2024-07-12T13:06:06 < qyx> I am not, just wikiing around 2024-07-12T13:06:46 < qyx> got there from teslas cybertruck which ventYl mentioned 2024-07-12T13:06:47 < zyp> how's your SPE stuff working out? 2024-07-12T13:07:05 < qyx> nah some boards done but still no firmware 2024-07-12T13:07:17 < zyp> right 2024-07-12T13:07:23 < qyx> I am doing some home improvement esp32 now 2024-07-12T13:25:35 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-12T14:10:44 < ventYl> zyp: it seems that etherloop is possibly going to be the next cargo culted thing in the automotive 2024-07-12T14:11:13 < ventYl> not that gaining this status would mean anything significant for the rest of the world 2024-07-12T14:15:54 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-12T14:35:02 < karlp> what's the appeal of etherloop for automotive? 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allowed with an expiration of one week 2024-07-12T15:17:19 < qyx> I think I failed at this point 2024-07-12T15:22:48 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-12T15:27:38 < Steffanx> So just give the box another label and its all fine 2024-07-12T15:28:00 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-12T15:33:09 < qyx> I got some fatty poscaps \o/ 2024-07-12T15:36:39 < qyx> ok mouser is very funny, in the past I reported a few times that parts were missing in the shipment 2024-07-12T15:37:05 < qyx> over the time they started 1. packing all the stuff in a big bag before putting in the box 2024-07-12T15:37:23 < qyx> 2. glueing the box at some additional places 2024-07-12T15:38:11 < qyx> 3. clipping zip bags at the top to prevent accidental opening 2024-07-12T15:38:28 < qyx> 4. now they added a ductape over the clip on the zipbag 2024-07-12T15:39:17 < qyx> so apparently parts falling through openings in the box were a thing in the past 2024-07-12T15:56:42 < Steffanx> Must be some special qyx treatment 2024-07-12T16:05:59 < jpa-> next they'll ship you a welded shut metal box 2024-07-12T16:43:47 < zyp> heh, I'm writing unit tests for a client project, saw they got some utf8 encode/decode functions, figured they'd be easy to test 2024-07-12T16:44:41 < zyp> turns out they're getting the endianness wrong, so multibyte characters goes in the opposite order of regular utf8 2024-07-12T16:45:19 < zyp> I was thinking «oh well, maybe they've only ever passed ASCII through it» 2024-07-12T16:45:48 < zyp> «wait, why does this firmware need to do string encoding/decoding at all?» 2024-07-12T16:46:40 < zyp> turns out that they're using it as a varint scheme, every field in a binary structure is serialized as a unicode character 2024-07-12T16:48:49 < zyp> kinda looks like they've reinvented protobuf 2024-07-12T16:58:39 < mawk> nice 2024-07-12T16:58:42 < mawk> in C zyp ? 2024-07-12T16:58:50 < mawk> what do you use for unit testing C 2024-07-12T17:32:17 < karlp> we have some old legacy record formats here that are using ascii as weird encodings of digitis too. 2024-07-12T17:32:58 < karlp> aw awful faff around making unreadable "text" formats that you still need a computer to decode, instead of just binary on the wire and using a computer to decode. 2024-07-12T17:33:41 < karlp> 0.100 kg p01 YgA02SV 2024-07-12T17:34:01 < karlp> like that shit, all the trailing letter soup there is "encoded" bullshit 2024-07-12T17:35:37 < qyx> can I haz some smoke https://bin.jvnv.net/file/CUJhd 2024-07-12T17:35:45 < qyx> let's check if the mcu is alive 2024-07-12T17:41:01 < srk> cool busbar 2024-07-12T17:45:46 < qyx> no smoke, 13 mA at 12 V is pretty much though 2024-07-12T17:45:49 < qyx> mcu alive 2024-07-12T17:48:13 < qyx> no sorry 7.1 mA, lolwon is just being wrong 2024-07-12T17:57:36 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-12T18:15:28 < c10ud> finally some innovation 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means? :o 2024-07-13T23:18:24 < Steffanx> Yes, Mangy_Dog . I never knew it meant Welcome To Finland. 2024-07-13T23:20:45 < Mangy_Dog> uh uh 2024-07-13T23:36:29 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-13T23:47:54 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@2a02:1210:4e1a:b000:2216:b9ff:fe73:eb23] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] --- Day changed su heinĂ€ 14 2024 2024-07-14T00:13:19 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-14T00:29:40 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-14T00:29:48 < Laurenceb_> kek I wonder who lives here 2024-07-14T00:29:50 < Laurenceb_> https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1671306,-73.7569558,3a,75y,147.88h,89.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAve2fLgeWStRxrEnr5iJlA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu 2024-07-14T00:29:52 < Laurenceb_> nice rides 2024-07-14T00:38:01 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.70.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2024-07-14T00:38:59 -!- IanW_ 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Don't want to actually go to /pol/ but am curious enough to interrupt my wanking for a few minutes and open this thread 2024-07-14T19:21:37 < Laurenceb_> kek 4chan 2024-07-14T20:42:25 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-14T20:46:20 -!- jbo [~jbo@user/tct] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-14T20:46:45 -!- jbo [~jbo@user/tct] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-14T20:54:17 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-14T21:00:42 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2024-07-14T21:37:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-14T21:37:33 < Laurenceb_> >emdrive satellite suffered "power failure" 2024-07-14T21:37:39 < Laurenceb_> imagine my shock 2024-07-14T21:51:20 < Laurenceb_> mech end question: how can I fit a v large deep groove ball bearing unit into alu housing? 2024-07-14T21:51:27 < Laurenceb_> approx 250mm ID 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connection] 2024-07-15T12:42:44 -!- jmcgnh [~jmcgnh@wikipedia/jmcgnh] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T13:33:43 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T13:40:19 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-15T13:47:22 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@xcpe-62-167-161-85.cgn.res.adslplus.ch] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T16:00:54 < benishor> https://github.com/benishor/interview-test-points 2024-07-15T16:00:59 < benishor> how would you rate the two coders? 2024-07-15T16:17:37 < zyp> why do you ask, seven years after the fact? :) 2024-07-15T16:21:07 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T16:21:10 < Laurenceb_> fuck yeah https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1705773/?ref_=ls_t_9 2024-07-15T16:23:00 < benishor> zyp: reran into it and I was curious what others think :-) 2024-07-15T16:25:21 < zyp> both seems like typical throwaway code from reasonably proficient C++ programmers 2024-07-15T16:25:45 < benishor> which one would you hire though? 2024-07-15T16:26:34 < zyp> neither does any sort of input validation, so neither is «production» code, but for a throwaway thing operating on known good input that's fine 2024-07-15T16:27:51 < jpa-> yeah, both seem ok enough, i wouldn't make the choice based on the code 2024-07-15T16:27:57 < zyp> I like the structure in solution B better, haven't looked deep enough into which does the math better 2024-07-15T16:28:32 < c10ud> ..but for a quick hack do you *really* need a complete vector3d impl? 2024-07-15T16:28:40 < c10ud> i second jpa- 2024-07-15T16:28:43 < zyp> same 2024-07-15T16:29:17 < c10ud> i would hire the one wring the solution in less than 20 lines tho 2024-07-15T16:29:17 < c10ud> lol 2024-07-15T16:29:25 < benishor> thanks for the input guys 2024-07-15T16:30:45 < zyp> c10ud, if I were given this task, and C++ weren't a requirement, I'd probably do this with python and numpy 2024-07-15T16:31:08 < zyp> which could end up around 20 lines :) 2024-07-15T16:32:14 < c10ud> i often start hacking up specialized pythonic scripts 2024-07-15T16:32:26 < c10ud> but then i find myself rewriting the thing in vbnet 2024-07-15T16:32:29 < c10ud> guess i'm old 2024-07-15T16:32:39 < zyp> with C++ as a requirement, I'm not sure whether the code I wrote would be better or worse than either of these :) 2024-07-15T16:32:45 < machinehum> vbnet 2024-07-15T16:32:57 < c10ud> 10yrs ago i wouldnt even think of such madness 2024-07-15T16:33:02 < benishor> vb, now that's a name I haven't heard in years 2024-07-15T16:33:28 < benishor> my first paid programming job was in vb 2024-07-15T16:33:42 < machinehum> Did msft shut all that down 2024-07-15T16:34:04 < benishor> I have no clue, haven't used any of it for 20+ years 2024-07-15T16:34:06 < c10ud> but then i enjoy launching a simple form with a graph or something with data, simply putting buttons and shit around, without ctrl+c'ing to hell or worrying about deps 2024-07-15T16:36:55 < machinehum> What do you use to compile this vb 2024-07-15T16:37:21 < c10ud> msft own studio (!) 2024-07-15T16:37:25 < c10ud> vs19 or 22 2024-07-15T16:40:31 < Laurenceb_> woah https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167577X07011391?via%3Dihub 2024-07-15T16:40:37 < Laurenceb_> new composite material 2024-07-15T16:41:24 < benishor> hahah, making stinging nettle cordage is on my bushcraft-to-do list 2024-07-15T16:53:39 -!- t4nk_freenode [~Go@user/t4nk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T16:54:34 -!- t4nk_fn [~Go@user/t4nk] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2024-07-15T16:54:59 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2024-07-15T16:55:04 -!- t4nk_freenode is now known as t4nk_fn 2024-07-15T16:56:14 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@89.173.155.197] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T17:09:17 -!- ilgrim [~ilgrim@xinu.me] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-15T17:09:35 -!- ilgrim [~ilgrim@xinu.me] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T17:47:13 -!- Laurenceb_ 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struct datapoint { }; would therefore be the temperature value with a timestamp, but what do I call a colleciton of datapoints over time? 2024-07-15T18:11:53 < BrainDamage> ensemble for multiple stuff tested in parallel, and span for in time 2024-07-15T18:12:10 < jbo> are those common terms? 2024-07-15T18:12:40 < BrainDamage> they come from statistics / physics 2024-07-15T18:12:44 < jbo> perfect 2024-07-15T18:12:48 < jbo> thank you :) 2024-07-15T18:13:20 < BrainDamage> ie esemble average is when you have multiple tests done in parallel and you average them at the same time 2024-07-15T18:13:47 < BrainDamage> span is usually written as time span, to be unambigous 2024-07-15T18:14:23 -!- sauce [~sauce@free.and.open.sauce.icu] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-15T18:14:34 -!- sauce [~sauce@free.and.open.sauce.icu] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T18:38:30 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@206.213.63.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2024-07-15T18:41:34 < mawk> ensemble = together 2024-07-15T18:51:53 -!- catphish [~quassel@user/catphish] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T19:04:14 < jbo> oui, je parles francais aussi! 2024-07-15T19:04:20 < jbo> c'est normal en suisse! 2024-07-15T19:04:42 < jbo> although my writing is horrible 2024-07-15T19:05:39 < Steffanx> Je ne parle pas français! 2024-07-15T19:06:02 < jbo> tu es mon cheri quand meme 2024-07-15T19:10:31 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-15T19:10:41 < qyx> ja ne parle swiss 2024-07-15T19:10:57 < qyx> only bisschen 2024-07-15T19:11:38 < jbo> good enough - you're allowed to immigrate 2024-07-15T19:11:56 < jbo> here's your customary fondue set and 250'000.- USD in gold 2024-07-15T19:12:14 < BrainDamage> why do the gold bars have a swastika stamp? 2024-07-15T19:12:25 < jbo> so people don't dare stealing them 2024-07-15T19:12:33 < qyx> already stolen? 2024-07-15T19:12:42 < jbo> nah, different gold 2024-07-15T19:13:54 < jbo> also, what gold? 2024-07-15T19:25:49 < Steffanx> Jew gold with swastikas? Wut.. 2024-07-15T19:26:00 < Steffanx> Dutch Jew gold* 2024-07-15T19:26:43 < BrainDamage> because it was rebranded to make it look legitimately owned 2024-07-15T19:34:07 < jbo> you seem to know a lot about fake stolen nazi gold, BrainDamage 2024-07-15T19:34:10 < jbo> I wonder why 2024-07-15T19:56:32 -!- drfff [~k\o\w@2607:fea8:1d00:89f0:7c35:a344:beb3:42b6] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T20:12:37 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T20:16:04 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T21:16:53 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2024-07-15T21:34:58 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2024-07-15T21:38:23 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@109.251.216.38] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T21:39:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@208.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-15T21:39:16 < Laurenceb_> 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rs485? 2024-07-18T14:18:37 < karlp> nope. I just rememeber seeing the hardware descriptions in openwrt, and thinkign it looked interesting, but we were doing our own hardware.... 2024-07-18T14:19:08 < karlp> you having problems with them? or just curious? 2024-07-18T14:21:44 -!- SystemError [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-18T14:25:05 -!- phryk [~totallyno@user/phryk] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-18T14:25:29 -!- phryk [~totallyno@user/phryk] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-18T14:26:19 -!- SystemError [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-18T14:48:42 -!- t4nk_freenode is now known as t4nk_fn 2024-07-18T14:55:04 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-18T14:58:04 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-18T15:12:13 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has quit [Server closed connection] 2024-07-18T15:12:40 -!- splud [~noneya.bi@user/splud] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-18T15:26:14 -!- NEYi 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modem, any device connected to the usb-c) 2024-07-22T19:32:00 < qyx> when I power it with a usb-c otg-fs, hub works and all devices are enumerated 2024-07-22T19:32:25 < qyx> now, when I power it with a lab supply and connect otg-fs during runtime, nothing happens 2024-07-22T19:32:39 < qyx> when I reboot or boot the thing with both supplies connected, usb hub works 2024-07-22T19:33:14 < qyx> tl;dr if the otg is attached during boot -> ok 2024-07-22T19:35:51 < qyx> usb-c sockets https://bin.jvnv.net/file/vFXbE/Screenshot_2024-07-22_18-34-33.png 2024-07-22T19:36:09 < qyx> usb hub https://bin.jvnv.net/file/W3YrT/Screenshot_2024-07-22_18-35-15.png 2024-07-22T19:37:08 < qyx> one more test, powering from a usb-c otg-fs port using *power only* 2024-07-22T19:38:52 < qyx> works 2024-07-22T19:42:56 < qyx> so this tps259531 is probably the only component left which may cause the issue https://bin.jvnv.net/file/LzeUR/Screenshot_2024-07-22_18-42-17.png 2024-07-22T19:49:24 < qyx> powering directly from VBUS_LP -> no worky 2024-07-22T20:01:46 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T20:04:12 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2024-07-22T20:07:03 < qyx> probably a VBUS_DET problem, mismatched ports 2024-07-22T20:21:39 -!- zxrom [~zxrom@mm-57-36-212-37.vitebsk.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T20:29:57 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2024-07-22T20:54:25 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T21:00:43 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2024-07-22T21:01:01 -!- vampirefrog [~vampirefr@2a02:2f09:d207:3100:2d8:61ff:fe17:8a57] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T21:04:55 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T21:10:24 -!- zxrom [~zxrom@mm-57-36-212-37.vitebsk.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has left ##stm32 [Leaving] 2024-07-22T21:16:22 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T22:09:52 < jbo-> time to shake some babies 2024-07-22T22:59:03 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2024-07-22T23:03:16 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.182] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-22T23:29:29 < machinehum> qyx: Did you figure it out? 2024-07-22T23:40:31 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@87-93-228-27.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed ti heinĂ€ 23 2024 2024-07-23T00:05:53 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.182] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-23T00:08:01 -!- jbo- is now known as jbo 2024-07-23T00:39:40 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-23T00:54:36 < qyx> machinehum: not yet, I was about to check the devicetree, my guess is I accidentally configured some role switch or whatever for the wrong port/gpio 2024-07-23T00:55:06 < qyx> because when I assert VBUS_DET for the OTG port (usb1), host port (usb2) enumerates 2024-07-23T01:07:06 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2024-07-23T01:19:19 -!- Linux_Kerio 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started the .xz compression shit because it's an archive that I will probably never need again, but wanted to store on teh nas, 2024-07-25T01:48:23 < karlp> so I'm like, fuck it, tarball, it will be faster to store as one big file anyway, and it'll keep the symlinks inside. 2024-07-25T01:48:40 < karlp> then promptly later have run into other shit I'd prefer to backup _as is_ with symlinks, 2024-07-25T01:48:42 * karlp shrugs 2024-07-25T01:48:51 < karlp> I'm doing some data cleanup, it's all geenrally good. 2024-07-25T01:57:28 < karlp> man, this is lame. so it works _perfectly_ with the mfsymlinks option. 2024-07-25T01:57:39 < karlp> I just would like it to mount that way nicely when I clickyclick it. 2024-07-25T01:59:46 < karlp> hrm, allegedly newenough "posix extensions" in smbv3 would work, but... *shrugs* just trying to backup shit 2024-07-25T02:04:50 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@87-93-228-27.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-25T02:08:41 -!- upgrdman 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2024-07-29T15:23:12 < nohit> like symetrical from the midpoint 2024-07-29T15:27:05 < jpa-> why are you assuming that? 2024-07-29T15:30:24 < nohit> well, V_IL and V_IH are symmetrical too. and i need those threshold voltages for calculations 2024-07-29T15:30:31 < nohit> do you have a better idea ? 2024-07-29T16:19:09 -!- NEYi_ [~NEYi@195.234.78.182] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-29T16:38:09 < ventYl> on multi-core CPUs, are there multiple SysTicks? 2024-07-29T16:38:20 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-29T16:40:34 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-29T17:03:47 < jpa-> nohit: the accurate switching point is not specified, it will vary from part to part and with temperature 2024-07-29T17:04:03 < jpa-> nohit: for debouncing you don't really need that, but if you need more accurate than that you need to use a comparator 2024-07-29T17:19:16 < nohit> Sure 2024-07-29T18:14:08 -!- Linux_Kerio 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catphish> i'm interested in building a zigbee thing, the stm32wb looks nice, but i know nothing about zigbee. does this require proprietary firmware to be inclued, or can it be used like a normal periphral? 2024-07-30T00:23:45 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-30T00:51:49 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2024-07-30T01:07:35 -!- IanW [~IceChat9@31.94.16.134] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2024-07-30T01:50:41 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-5ce3-cecd-2d59-7293.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2024-07-30T02:30:15 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-30T02:30:42 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-30T02:48:53 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-30T03:32:19 -!- vampirefrog [~vampirefr@2a02:2f09:d207:3100:2d8:61ff:fe17:8a57] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 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Interface to the application running on the CPU2 is provided via mailbox message system." 2024-07-30T09:26:53 < catphish> I guess you do indeed have to install a proprietary firmware, but it's somewhat separate 2024-07-30T09:35:57 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-74c9-f7af-6294-3a14.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-30T09:36:15 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-30T09:36:29 < ventYl> AFAIK that's rather usual setup. that BLOB will even be some kind of signed, so any usual DIY software can't interact with peripheral as it wants 2024-07-30T09:36:36 < ventYl> as per FCC requirements 2024-07-30T09:44:53 < catphish> that makes sense i guess if they're selling fully certified module versions 2024-07-30T09:46:18 < ventYl> I don't know what exact arrangement are you working with. If it is still stand-alone zigbee radio which only interfaces with CPU, then blob probably isn't signed as radio should make sure FCC rules are satisfied 2024-07-30T09:46:40 < ventYl> if stuff is SDR-ish, then it most probably claims the whole core 2024-07-30T09:48:51 < catphish> i'm looking at the STM32WB50 2024-07-30T09:49:07 < catphish> seemed like a conveniently cost effective all-in-one unit 2024-07-30T09:50:03 < catphish> i'm not really sure i understand what FCC rules could exist for an ultra low power 2.4GHz radio though 2024-07-30T09:50:56 < catphish> but anyway, the documentation implies that the MCU has a whole second ARM core dedicated to the radio 2024-07-30T09:51:29 < ventYl> yeah, that's the case 2024-07-30T09:52:02 < ventYl> I guess that the point is to keep power and channel width within limits 2024-07-30T09:53:46 < catphish> in any case, this looks like a useful part, i'll have to find the API docs and figure out how one passes data to the second core 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2024-07-30T22:24:38 < catphish> i don't think the "blob" firmware thing is a big problem for me, as long as there's documentation about how to install it and use it, which is weirdly totally missing from the STM32WB reference manual 2024-07-30T22:29:36 < catphish> it's obviously possible that stm32 isn't the right tool for the job, but it's always the one i check first :) 2024-07-30T22:30:02 < catphish> lughtbulbs can do this, but it can't be that complicated / expensive, right :) 2024-07-30T22:32:40 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-30T22:39:09 < catphish> people also seem to like nRF52840 2024-07-30T22:41:48 < catphish> and nRF52820 is <$2 so probably worth even more of a look 2024-07-30T22:42:46 < catphish> i fear any/all of these chips are going to require an insanely complicated SDK setup though 2024-07-30T22:44:58 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-4113-f8fd-4b5e-693a.fixed6.kpn.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2024-07-30T22:57:11 < Steffanx> The nrf radio is open catphish .. they even wrote a new ble stack for it 2024-07-30T22:57:32 < Steffanx> So gcc and registers it is. 2024-07-30T23:01:20 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@2a02-a45a-96ba-1-60b5-a198-8e85-a476.fixed6.kpn.net] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-30T23:01:58 < catphish> Steffanx: oh that's cool 2024-07-30T23:02:38 < catphish> of course i probably lack the skill to write my own radio stack, but open is nice, and hopefully i can make it work the way i want it to work 2024-07-30T23:03:47 < catphish> ooo cheap devevelopment kit too 2024-07-30T23:06:10 < catphish> i'm not familiar with nordic, but they seem to be "not dicks" (TM) at first glance 2024-07-30T23:15:29 < Steffanx> Otherwise it's probably picking an esp32, some tarduino libs and call it a day 2024-07-30T23:17:19 < catphish> can esp32 talk zigbee? 2024-07-30T23:17:41 < Steffanx> Some can 2024-07-30T23:18:32 < catphish> that could work, i have some esp32 dev boards 2024-07-30T23:23:52 < catphish> C5, C6 and H2 it seems 2024-07-30T23:24:31 < catphish> Steffanx: i suspect that's the direction i will go first then, thanks! 2024-07-30T23:24:59 < qyx> keep in mind esp32 can't sleep properly 2024-07-30T23:31:24 < catphish> how so? 2024-07-30T23:32:57 < qyx> idk 2024-07-30T23:33:03 < qyx> it is a known feature 2024-07-30T23:33:41 < catphish> fortunately my use case is mains powered, so apart from a bit of wasted power, i'm not too bothered 2024-07-30T23:33:57 < qyx> just compare eg. two ublox modules, esp32 based and nrf based 2024-07-30T23:36:06 < qyx> may I ask you for a kind reminder which connectors did you use besides those TE's 2/3 pin ones? 2024-07-30T23:36:17 < qyx> surloks? 2024-07-30T23:42:53 < catphish> high voltage? 2024-07-30T23:43:02 < catphish> or signal? 2024-07-30T23:54:45 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello089173155197.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2024-07-30T23:57:25 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] --- 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2024-07-31T21:09:08 -!- alan_o [~alan_o@2600:1700:1902:210f:2d15:d719:cc04:13e7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-31T21:09:26 -!- alan_o [~alan_o@2600:1700:1902:210f:9c69:cb8b:acfc:332d] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-31T21:21:41 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2024-07-31T21:22:08 < jpa-> Steffanx: i heard that the dutch government will fine you 100 000 EUR if you ever cum again, is that true? 2024-07-31T21:29:24 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2024-07-31T21:30:17 < Steffanx> Uhm, what weird websites are you visiting jpa- ? 2024-07-31T21:30:51 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2024-07-31T21:31:28 < jpa-> finnish public service media company 2024-07-31T21:31:28 < Steffanx> Dont believe everything jbo tells you 2024-07-31T21:31:48 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2024-07-31T21:33:58 < Steffanx> Google doesnt know about such thing, neither do i 2024-07-31T21:34:31 -!- flom84 [~flom84@user/flom84] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2024-07-31T21:35:20 < jpa-> https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a61230684/what-happened-to-jonathan-meijer-from-the-man-with-1000-kids/ apparently this one 2024-07-31T21:35:23 < Steffanx> Are you sure your sources a trustworthy? 2024-07-31T21:35:39 < jpa-> looks like pretty old stuff actually 2024-07-31T21:37:55 < Steffanx> Ah good old Jonathan 2024-07-31T21:38:50 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2024-07-31T21:39:19 < jpa-> your buddy? 2024-07-31T21:40:50 < Steffanx> No, but i recall seeing him in some talkshow 2024-07-31T21:47:13 < ventYl> dutchmen have that sexual consent app, don't they? 2024-07-31T21:47:45 < jpa-> i can see why that is needed 2024-07-31T21:48:11 < ventYl> nicht klicken nicht ficken 2024-07-31T21:48:30 < Steffanx> That looks like german 2024-07-31T22:12:24 < qyx> all the same.. thing 2024-07-31T22:31:33 -!- martinmoene_ 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