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2025-02-01T01:03:01 < qyx> another 200 lines of working code, receive path works now
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2025-02-01T13:45:16 < qyx> any ideas for time profiling a linux app?
2025-02-01T13:47:54 < qyx> oh clock() suffices, it is in microseconds, at least on my system
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2025-02-01T21:54:45 < veverak> other than that valgrind+callgrind is pretty decent, not clock based tho
2025-02-01T21:54:50 < veverak> kcachegrind cna provide visualizations
2025-02-01T21:56:25 < veverak> My Q: I need tips for debugging this, I've got small board with stm32h503 and i2c eeprom connected to it, it's the scenario where we did not even added pullups as the board is quite small and I wanted to rely on the internal pullups of the stm itself
2025-02-01T21:57:00 < veverak> there is only the eeprom as i2c device and the traces between mcu pins and eeprom pins are 13/14mm long, so I hoped this is short enough
2025-02-01T21:57:46 < veverak> however, when I put it on the scope, and do just basic toggling of the gpio pins, I cna see that the CLK (13mm) pin gos correctly from 0V to 3v3, but the SDA goes only from 0V to 1.2V +-
2025-02-01T21:58:05 < veverak> (no i2c configured, just basic GPIO setup for testing)
2025-02-01T21:58:28 < veverak> that's when the pins are configured for open drain with pull up being ON
2025-02-01T21:59:02 < veverak> note that when the pins are in PP mode without pullup, both pins go from 0V to 3v3 just fine
2025-02-01T21:59:49 < veverak> based on what I found in the datasheet, both pins should be in the same I/O category, so I would expect that both would behave the same?
2025-02-01T22:00:26 < veverak> I could understand that maybe it was mistake to rely on the internal pullups, but I am confused as why is there difference between both pins... (note: PB10/PB13)
2025-02-01T22:33:46 < jpa-> qyx: perf is nice
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2025-02-01T22:35:05 < jpa-> veverak: put multimeter in current mode and measure between VCC and SDA, to see how much current is being drawn into somewhere
2025-02-01T22:35:20 < qyx> I mean not how things take but when exactly
2025-02-01T22:35:27 < qyx> *how long
2025-02-01T22:35:31 < jpa-> qyx: ah
2025-02-01T22:35:58 < jpa-> SCL is usually fine to configure in push-pull mode, which already helps with the margins even if you leave SDA with just internal pull-up
2025-02-01T22:36:01 < qyx> one led would suffice
2025-02-01T22:36:56 < veverak> jpa-: unfortunetly for me the one with issues is SDA :/
2025-02-01T22:37:04 < jpa-> yeah
2025-02-01T22:37:16 < veverak> oh crap the wire from mcu pin I use for measurements fell off
2025-02-01T22:37:16 < jpa-> does the i2c device spec leakage current on SDA?
2025-02-01T22:38:08 < veverak> it does
2025-02-01T22:38:13 < veverak> output leakage current should be +- uA
2025-02-01T22:38:17 < veverak> 1 uA
2025-02-01T22:38:32 < veverak> 20:59:09            Jenda | Tesla Henlein! https://az247.cz/tesla-predstavila-novy-model-ss/
2025-02-01T22:38:37 < veverak> fuuuu
2025-02-01T22:38:41 < veverak> https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/EEPROM_ROHM-Semicon-BRCC064GWZ-3E2_C123068.html
2025-02-01T22:38:43 < veverak> this one
2025-02-01T22:38:45 < veverak> ;)
2025-02-01T22:39:38 < jpa-> have to checked that the eeprom chip is getting VCC correctly? otherwise it might be pulling down SDA through the ESD diodes
2025-02-01T22:40:04 < qyx> tesla furt predstavuje nove modely
2025-02-01T22:40:28 < veverak> jpa-: kinda not sure how to do that
2025-02-01T22:41:00 < veverak> jpa-: there is 3v3 on the net connected to the eeprom, that much I know
2025-02-01T22:41:13 < jpa-> veverak: hmm.. true, hard to measure
2025-02-01T22:41:19 < veverak> the board is tiny
2025-02-01T22:41:33 < veverak> however, you got a point
2025-02-01T22:41:42 < jpa-> if you have lots of protos, you could unsolder the chip on one of them
2025-02-01T22:41:47 < veverak> SCL is most propably pure input for the device, but it can output to SDA, the circuitry will be different internally
2025-02-01T22:41:54 < veverak> yeah, was thinking about that
2025-02-01T22:42:06 < veverak> I think that 5 assembled boards can be called "lots"
2025-02-01T22:42:18 < jpa-> typically inputs would also have ESD diodes though
2025-02-01T22:42:19 < veverak> and the batch is already problematic due to different issues
2025-02-01T22:42:31 < jpa-> i'd start with the "measure current from VCC to SDA"
2025-02-01T22:43:13 < jpa-> actually that eeprom should take so little current in standby that even it wouldn't explain pulling SDA down to 1.2V
2025-02-01T22:43:36 < qyx> veverak: I can confirm using I2C eeprom definitely works with internal pullups, I did this multiple times
2025-02-01T22:43:50 < veverak> qyx: oh, thanks :)
2025-02-01T22:43:50 < qyx> with short traces and at 100k, it is okish
2025-02-01T22:44:48 < qyx> where it tends to fail is in strong interference so you have to handle all kinds of error states, those errors are intermittent
2025-02-01T22:44:57 < qyx> but not in the way you describe
2025-02-01T22:45:03 < veverak> I am thinking about removing one eeprom from one device anyway
2025-02-01T22:45:13 < qyx> yeah I would start with that too
2025-02-01T22:45:14 < veverak> the minimum I get is a good solder point to the wire
2025-02-01T22:45:18 < veverak> *net
2025-02-01T22:45:30 < veverak> we got testpoits for plenty of stuff on the board, but not for SDA/SCL :)
2025-02-01T22:45:51 < veverak> https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/651171734883779451.jpg
2025-02-01T22:46:46 < qyx> looks very hacky
2025-02-01T22:47:06 < qyx> what's that?
2025-02-01T22:47:22 < veverak> driver for dc motor + potentiometer/encoder combo
2025-02-01T22:47:30 < qyx> for a servo?
2025-02-01T22:47:32 < veverak> yes
2025-02-01T22:47:55 < veverak> https://hackaday.io/project/194236-servio 
2025-02-01T22:48:18 < veverak> anyway, have to go to sleep, I will try the current thing jpa- mentioned tomorrow, and follow that with removal of eeprom
2025-02-01T22:49:51 < qyx> is it a cubesat
2025-02-01T22:50:15 < veverak> nope, just smart servomotor driver (smart as can communicated over UART)
2025-02-01T22:50:24 < veverak> but I did get to 20kHz control loop which is nice
2025-02-01T22:50:26 < veverak> :)
2025-02-01T22:50:28 < veverak> anyway, gn
2025-02-01T22:50:39 < qyx> I mean the black structure on one of the photos
2025-02-01T22:50:39 < qyx> gn
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2025-02-01T23:43:05 < qyx> and now it is time to unify linux and stm32 protocol codebases
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2025-02-02T00:34:07 < Steffanx> Now is not the time qyx. It's time to sleep 
2025-02-02T00:38:19 < veverak> qyx: the black structure is testjig for the servo controller :)
2025-02-02T00:40:53 < qyx> nah steff, I fixed some bugs, now the thing doesn't work at all
2025-02-02T00:53:14 < qyx> memset(&(self->pbufs[i].buf), 0, 24); is not what I want :>
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2025-02-02T03:35:03 < karlp> qyx: re: profiling, perf?
2025-02-02T03:35:57 < karlp> right, I see jpa said that too :)
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2025-02-02T20:24:08 < Steffanx> To keep the ##stm32 tradition alive: a figure/doll/toy holding a PCB https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1ZPFzuHj/1000023087.jpg
2025-02-02T20:31:16 < jpa-> what are those weird high components? stacked connectors?
2025-02-02T20:31:55 < Steffanx> The black ones? Yes, stacked audio jacks
2025-02-02T20:32:56 < Steffanx> The figure was a gift.. the box said: "Assembly time: 8 hours". That was no lie.
2025-02-02T20:55:10 < ds2> was welding involved?
2025-02-02T21:04:35 < Steffanx> No.. 
2025-02-02T21:09:50 < Steffanx> No soldering either 
2025-02-02T21:32:14 < veverak> nice
2025-02-02T21:32:17 < veverak> Steffanx: got link?
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2025-02-02T22:57:58 < Steffanx> This veverak https://www.mecrobremake.com/products/pathfinder .. not cheap though
2025-02-02T23:02:36 < veverak> its not THAT bad
2025-02-02T23:02:39 < veverak> beats lego
2025-02-02T23:13:24 < Steffanx> Beats Ikea too. Not a single missing part. Out of the 96 unique parts. lol
2025-02-02T23:14:52 < veverak> qyx: jpa-: did not get to ma SDA issuess properly today, but I did confirm that if I take down the eeprom the pullup on SDA can hold it on 3v3 just fine
2025-02-02T23:15:06 < veverak> I will just try few more boards, but os far it seems I cna blame the eeprom
2025-02-02T23:26:55 < qyx> your issues are o ur issues
2025-02-02T23:27:20 < qyx> anyway, found some weighing platform with 4 load cells and a stran gaige digitizer, let's do some tests
2025-02-02T23:28:38 < qyx> numbe rof projects ongoing on the fresly cleared table: 8
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2025-02-03T01:09:09 < qyx> karlp: so I have the weigh scale working, using 1% of dynamic range I am accurate to about 1g/3000g, nobody knows how it behaves with temp changes but whatever, it will be c onstant temp
2025-02-03T01:09:47 < qyx> but it works reasonably only when the weigh is in the middle (or wherever else when I calibrated it)
2025-02-03T01:10:13 < qyx> i guess I need to calibrate all sensors somehow, there are 4 of them, but I don't really know how
2025-02-03T01:10:36 < qyx> when I move the thing to the edge, I am off as much as 5g
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2025-02-03T11:14:12 < jpa-> can we just forbid odd numbers? that would fix one-off errors for good
2025-02-03T11:26:11 < qyx> of-by-two errors would be a bit odd
2025-02-03T11:29:05 < karlp> yeah, most of weighing is mechanical....
2025-02-03T11:29:15 < karlp> there's a reason we use mostly single point shit.
2025-02-03T11:29:29 < karlp> getting four to balance propelry is fucking hard.
2025-02-03T11:33:05 < qyx> probably could be done in some iterative way and a lilbit of math
2025-02-03T11:33:09 < qyx> also
2025-02-03T11:33:10 < qyx> As a result, it was concluded that the ZED-F9P receiver equipped with
2025-02-03T11:33:10 < qyx> a patch antenna is only suitable for precision measurements in conditions with high availability of
2025-02-03T11:33:13 < qyx> open sky. However, the configuration of this receiver with a geodetic-grade antenna significantly
2025-02-03T11:33:16 < qyx> improves the quality of results, beating even professional geodetic equipment
2025-02-03T11:33:46 < qyx> I was recommended a novatel receiver but now idk tbh
2025-02-03T11:34:07 < qyx> https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/21/16/5552
2025-02-03T11:42:16 < karlp> possibly. I know the few platforms we use with multi cells are done purely mech.
2025-02-03T11:42:44 < karlp> they go into a combiner, with trim pots and just appear as a single load cell to the actual measurement unit head.
2025-02-03T11:43:06 < karlp> and the production people just adjust bolts and pots until it "does the right thing"
2025-02-03T11:43:14 < karlp> I have no real opinion on whether that's better or worse.
2025-02-03T11:45:45 < qyx> I like the "adjust until it works" approach
2025-02-03T12:08:45 < karlp> they're reallllly cranking on some of the mounting bolts to get it right too.
2025-02-03T12:08:59  * karlp shrugs.
2025-02-03T12:09:38 < karlp> I imagine more inventive sw and actualyl using 4 adc cahnnels instead of dumb sw and a super fancy single analog channel might work too, 
2025-02-03T12:09:55 < karlp> but... no innovation here. that's the way things are done
2025-02-03T12:11:10 < qyx> yeah I am using 4 channels
2025-02-03T12:12:32 < qyx> now I see it can be done at least, getting 1g/3000g on first try is satisfactory although the guy wants 0.2g/4000g which apparently cannot be achieved even with professional/laboratory grade scales
2025-02-03T12:13:20 < karlp> yeah, that's way higher than most stuff you'll see.
2025-02-03T12:13:42 < karlp> I think it should be well doable, but would require far better sw than most scale implementations seem to be.
2025-02-03T12:14:02 < karlp> 3000-4000divs is "good"
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2025-02-03T12:20:13 < qyx> anyway, ordering some nRF modules to play with BLE
2025-02-03T12:20:24 < qyx> NINA-B112
2025-02-03T12:21:53 < Steffanx> Will you Zephyr qyx?
2025-02-03T12:22:07 < qyx> I hope no
2025-02-03T12:22:20 < Steffanx> Good luck..
2025-02-03T12:22:33 < qyx> it has nRF52832
2025-02-03T12:22:51 < qyx> I need two pwm outputs and maybe a i2c temp sensor
2025-02-03T12:23:11 < Steffanx> Better not read about the Bluetooth qualification process (and the fees involved)
2025-02-03T12:23:31 < Steffanx> Not an issue for non-work projects ofcourse 
2025-02-03T12:23:34 < qyx> I don't care, it is for my personal stuff
2025-02-03T12:23:52 < qyx> I would not use bluetooth for anything serious ever
2025-02-03T12:24:32 < Steffanx> People don't want to control your data loggers with their phone without internets?
2025-02-03T12:25:22 < qyx> they have wifi for that
2025-02-03T12:25:57 < qyx> and ethernet, wo even uses phones
2025-02-03T12:26:19 < Steffanx> The TikTok generation 
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2025-02-03T13:31:30 < karlp> why not esp32?
2025-02-03T13:40:07 < karlp> says the guy who just tried updating esp-idf toa more current version and is now getting errors about includes not found in his own project.
2025-02-03T14:22:56 < qyx> because no reasonable power management
2025-02-03T14:24:24 < qyx> I just replaced display and charging connector on my 2007 sony ericsson, also cleaned it a bit, looks like new
2025-02-03T14:24:29 < qyx> good for another 10 years
2025-02-03T14:25:34 < qyx> I should resupply spare parts though
2025-02-03T14:25:50 < karlp> nrf power manangement is just "lol, trust us" not sure that's any better :)
2025-02-03T14:44:18 < qyx> hm don't get me demotivated!
2025-02-03T14:45:30 < Steffanx> I'm not disappointed by the power consumption. not even when running zephyr.
2025-02-03T14:45:57 < karlp> I mean, it's always going to be lower, not disputing that :)
2025-02-03T14:46:26 < Steffanx> 👯‍♀️ You can do it qyx 👯‍♀️
2025-02-03T14:51:20 < qyx> \\o
2025-02-03T14:51:21 < qyx> o//
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2025-02-03T14:54:47 < Steffanx> From your heart?
2025-02-03T14:59:03 < qyx> don't musk me
2025-02-03T16:01:01 < machinehum> https://github.com/espressif/esp-hosted
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2025-02-03T21:26:57 < Steffanx> Had a good time in belgianland mr machinehum ?
2025-02-03T21:51:52 < machinehum> Steffanx: Too much fun
2025-02-03T21:51:56 < machinehum> My head hurts
2025-02-03T21:52:06 < machinehum> Belgian beer is strong
2025-02-03T21:55:15 < machinehum> https://imgur.com/a/z1RbVkZ
2025-02-03T22:01:02 < Steffanx> and the talks? :P
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2025-02-03T22:06:51 < qyx> 50 cl beer?
2025-02-03T22:07:24 < qyx> I have seen many things but never a 50 cl beer
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2025-02-03T22:12:57 < Steffanx> No? You can get them everywhere here. Even at Aldi.
2025-02-03T22:13:00 < Steffanx> or lidl
2025-02-03T22:13:14 < qyx> idk all beers here are 500 ml
2025-02-03T22:14:03 < Steffanx> lolyou
2025-02-03T22:14:24 < Steffanx> You need a sarcasm emoji qyx
2025-02-03T22:30:26 < qyx> I truly don't understand what costs 400 eur on a 6-cell 18650 battery
2025-02-03T22:31:24 < qyx> is there any "standard" 18650 pack size in a reasonable package, not counting accu power tool batteries?
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2025-02-03T22:40:36 < specing> qyx: brand.
2025-02-03T22:40:55 < specing> qyx: sure, chinese ebike packs ... 36V
2025-02-03T22:42:43 < qyx> you mean those exploding in elevators?
2025-02-03T22:42:59 < specing> not those
2025-02-03T22:43:19 < specing> but if it's a mass production pack using a quality BMS and quality cells then it's good
2025-02-03T22:44:16 < specing> you could maybe check out replacement packs for xiaomi kick scooters, that should be solid stuff
2025-02-03T22:45:12 < specing> it might even have a 5V output straight from BMS
2025-02-03T22:45:45 < specing> https://www.thebattery.shop/cdn/shop/products/284423829491-0_934x700.jpg?v=1644234602
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2025-02-03T22:49:38 < Steffanx> it says CE so must be good
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2025-02-04T01:02:21 < karlp> oooh, hosted-ng supports bluetooth now.
2025-02-04T01:03:42 < karlp> they've extended transports a lot too now
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2025-02-04T08:50:04 < qyx> karlp: re weighs, 4 point is gonna have issues with the base instability, it voids calibration
2025-02-04T08:50:27 < qyx> 3 point should be doable
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2025-02-04T10:05:20 < qyx> STEVAL-MKI209V1K no they couldn't have used 10 pin header nor 14 pin header which are available as debugger cables or STDC cables
2025-02-04T10:05:28 < qyx> they used 12 pin!
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2025-02-04T11:13:44 < qyx> top tool for analog drawing pros https://gridzzly.com/
2025-02-04T11:23:02 < machinehum> Steffanx: talks were good, people were salty about the gpio subsystem changing in Linux lol
2025-02-04T11:23:13 < machinehum> KiCad talk was good
2025-02-04T11:23:46 < machinehum> I didn't have the courage to ask if KiCad 9 would work on FreeBSD for my good friend jbo
2025-02-04T11:39:31 < Steffanx> Where is jbo ?
2025-02-04T11:40:05 < machinehum> Good question
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2025-02-04T12:04:18 < Steffanx> Did you check your basement machinehum ?
2025-02-04T12:06:16 < qyx> nooo
2025-02-04T12:45:21 < jpa-> he's in the US, negotiating with mr. trump
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2025-02-04T13:52:35 < Steffanx> Aha. Absolutely something jbo would be doing. 
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2025-02-04T15:11:12 < karlp> machinehum: has gpio changed again? or are they upset abotu v1 vs v2 of the chardev?
2025-02-04T15:22:46 < mawk> well they can use v1 if they want
2025-02-04T15:22:48 < mawk> it's just deprecated
2025-02-04T15:25:39 < qyx> oh there is already char dev v2?
2025-02-04T15:25:47 < qyx> I feel late
2025-02-04T16:19:34 < machinehum> mawk: Buddy was talking about removing it
2025-02-04T16:31:47 < mawk> it's the same device qyx 
2025-02-04T16:31:51 < mawk> just updated structures for the ioctls
2025-02-04T16:31:56 < mawk> fairly similar
2025-02-04T17:02:22 < Steffanx> Mawk is alive too 🥳🥳
2025-02-04T17:18:41 < Steffanx> Is he?
2025-02-04T17:19:03 < Steffanx> What did the boss say about the ublox saga mawk?
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2025-02-04T19:38:10 < bitmask_> herro
2025-02-04T19:38:54 < Steffanx> moved to asia ml bitmask?
2025-02-04T19:39:19 < bitmask_> :)
2025-02-04T19:39:32 < bitmask_> whats up
2025-02-04T19:45:52 < Steffanx> Tha sky
2025-02-04T19:56:42 < bitmask_> i dont like you anymore
2025-02-04T19:56:59 < bitmask_> don't be one of those people
2025-02-04T20:04:40 < Steffanx> lol you have no idea how often i've answer that in here.
2025-02-04T20:04:50 < Steffanx> answered
2025-02-04T20:05:23 < Steffanx> Since you were a little kid
2025-02-04T20:06:16 < Steffanx> (that cannot be true since i recall you're not much older/younger than i am)
2025-02-04T20:20:36 < bitmask_> yea I was gonna say, arent we around the same age?
2025-02-04T20:21:10 < bitmask_> ugh, its hard to go back and forth between moving mode and working mode, I'm not good at change
2025-02-04T20:22:07 < bitmask_> i was cleaning up and trying to get rid of crap and now my mind is just racing on what I need to do for the move. I gotta chill out and just try to work
2025-02-04T20:22:45 < Steffanx> Yes, chill out ml bitmask_ 
2025-02-04T20:22:56 < bitmask_> I just found out my gf's parents are only paying a couple hundred more a month for their mortgage than we are for our upcoming rent....
2025-02-04T20:23:17 < bitmask_> its not an expensive house but its much better than a 2 bedroom apartment
2025-02-04T20:23:22 < Steffanx> Yeah, it being the other way around is not unusual here...
2025-02-04T20:24:03 < bitmask_> so maybe after this 18 month lease a condo or something will be a better choice
2025-02-04T20:24:38 < bitmask_> theres so many limitations in an apartment
2025-02-04T20:25:00 < bitmask_> I dont even know if I can hang shelves without asking
2025-02-04T20:25:41 < Steffanx> Im sure you can
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2025-02-04T20:28:14 < bitmask_> hmm gotta get rid of these two ikea tables im using for my 3d printer
2025-02-04T20:29:37 < bitmask_> speaking of, when is bambu labs coming out with their new printer
2025-02-04T20:30:03 < bitmask_> ive been waiting for a printer like that since I started printing, I just dont know if its going to be worth the price
2025-02-04T20:30:35 < bitmask_> 4 color feed with 2 individual print heads
2025-02-04T20:30:39 < Steffanx> What kind of fancy printer is being released?
2025-02-04T20:30:42 < Steffanx> hm
2025-02-04T20:30:55 < bitmask_> so you can have 2 different filament types with different settings
2025-02-04T20:31:01 < Steffanx> and link to that?
2025-02-04T20:31:21 < bitmask_> its only whats been leaked, its supposed to be released q1 but doesn't seem likely so far, one sec
2025-02-04T20:32:16 < Steffanx> oh
2025-02-04T20:32:24 < bitmask_> https://www.antonmansson.com/3d-printing-blog/new-bambu-lab-h2d-3d-printer-details-finally-leaked
2025-02-04T20:32:56 < bitmask_> its a lot bigger which i dont care about and actually wish it wasnt
2025-02-04T20:33:05 < bitmask_> because its gonna be a lot more expensive just for that
2025-02-04T20:33:27 < bitmask_> and I just want the dual head, but I guess to have dual head in the old print volume would actually be a lot less
2025-02-04T20:33:34 < bitmask_> well, just x
2025-02-04T20:34:31 < Steffanx> No way theyll price it lower than the X1, so... $2k it will be?
2025-02-04T20:34:52 < bitmask_> 2k Im good with, with the color changer thing
2025-02-04T20:35:03 < bitmask_> but any more and its a bit much...
2025-02-04T20:36:56 < Steffanx> Those current ones can mix filament types too right? It just wastes A LOT of filament
2025-02-04T20:37:24 < bitmask_> as far as I know yes but im not sure how it works with changing temperatures
2025-02-04T20:37:36 < bitmask_> at best its just really slow
2025-02-04T20:37:43 < bitmask_> at worst you just cant do it
2025-02-04T20:39:15 < Steffanx> The nozzle "cleaning" all the time is what wastes time and filament... afaik the printers can do it just fine
2025-02-04T20:39:46 < bitmask_> I dont know if these two materials work like this but just as an example, can you just print full layer supports in pla and thing have perfect next layer in petg to have no support/overhang issues like you usually do? and just snap the supports off
2025-02-04T20:40:43 < bitmask_> I think you still need a waste tower, whatever its called, but its probably a lot less if youre just using two filaments with the two extruders
2025-02-04T20:41:48 < Steffanx> for sure
2025-02-04T20:41:56 < bitmask_> overhang bottoms that are just as good as first layer bottoms just sounds awesome 
2025-02-04T20:43:07 < bitmask_> and ive never done any multi material or even multi color, but printing something in petg with like tpu hinges or something
2025-02-04T20:43:23 < bitmask_> though i dont know what sticks together
2025-02-04T20:43:25 < bitmask_> if anything
2025-02-04T20:44:29 < bitmask_> I paid for a big starship STL set :P thats really all I want to print
2025-02-04T20:45:04 < Steffanx> Just send the stls to jlc3dp :P
2025-02-04T20:45:14 < bitmask_> thats no fun
2025-02-04T20:45:24 < bitmask_> Im curious what it would cost though
2025-02-04T20:45:48 < bitmask_> its the ship, booster, tower, launch mount...
2025-02-04T20:46:31 < bitmask_> 1:96 scale I think
2025-02-04T20:47:13 < bitmask_> oh damn they released a new ship model based on block2
2025-02-04T20:48:23 < bitmask_> just the ship is 550mm
2025-02-04T20:51:27 < bitmask_> booster is 750mm, launch mount is 250mm and the tower is 1.5m
2025-02-04T20:54:25 < Steffanx> That will take some printing..
2025-02-04T20:54:44 < bitmask_> yup. I gotta find a good stainless looking PLA too
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2025-02-04T20:58:09 < BrainDamage> you could chrome plate it
2025-02-04T20:58:19 < BrainDamage> spray paint a conductive layer, then electroplate it
2025-02-04T21:01:09 < Steffanx> i recall ml bitmask_ doing that before. Not sure if it was a huge success
2025-02-04T21:02:37 < qyx> pro tool https://gridzzly.com/
2025-02-04T21:02:59 < qyx> makes my drawings much nicer
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2025-02-04T21:12:38 < bitmask_> it was pretty successful but I wouldnt waste my time mixing my own chemicals if I did it again
2025-02-04T21:23:22 < Steffanx> You should talk with mawk. He likes to mix chemicals
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2025-02-04T22:13:00 < bitmask_> is there any chance silicone mold mix is good after like 5 years unopened?
2025-02-04T22:14:16 < bitmask_> meh, garbage it is
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2025-02-04T22:17:13 < bitmask_> damnit rob, do some work! :/
2025-02-04T22:18:10 < qyx> nooo
2025-02-04T22:19:08 < bitmask_> how do you dispose of ferric chloride
2025-02-04T22:20:55 < karlp> mawk: they fucked it up so that you can't have v1 and v2 though, it really was fucked up
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2025-02-04T23:18:52 < sauce> bitmask_: the short & proper answer is at a hazmat disposal facility
2025-02-04T23:19:48 < sauce> the diy approach is just neutralize with baking soda, decant the liquid, dilute before putting down the drain
2025-02-04T23:19:53 < sauce> and put the precipitate in household waste
2025-02-04T23:20:23 < sauce> but lots of opportunity to fuck up and do environmental / plumbing damage there
2025-02-04T23:21:39 < qyx> with baking soda? will it make Fe2OH3, C02, H20 and some NaCl or something along that?
2025-02-04T23:21:49 < qyx> I should ask my AI friend, I forgot everything about chemistry
2025-02-04T23:22:11 < sauce> and (assuming it's used) copper salts will also precipitate
2025-02-04T23:22:30 < qyx> FeCl3+3NaHCO3→Fe(OH)3+3NaCl+3CO2
2025-02-04T23:22:32 < qyx> close enough
2025-02-04T23:22:52 < sauce> yeah ferric not ferrous
2025-02-04T23:23:36 < qyx> is Fe(OH)3 actually soluble?
2025-02-04T23:24:08 < sauce> not at neutral ph
2025-02-04T23:47:30 < bitmask_> ok, yea I'll bring it somewhere
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2025-02-05T02:24:59 < qyx> hello nightkaki
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2025-02-05T02:28:45 < nomorekaki> https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/equirectangular/loc=152.433,69.412
2025-02-05T03:18:09 < fenugrec> "bring it somewhere" - some of those places cause more harm than good... you say "ferric chloride" and they go "uuh... put it with the paint ?"
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2025-02-05T03:29:11 < qyx> so much wasted gas
2025-02-05T03:29:17 < qyx> wrong window
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2025-02-05T09:21:10 < qyx> any nonzero-sized pile of computer cables will tangle in a finite time
2025-02-05T09:26:46 < jpa-> https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0611320104  Spontaneous knotting of an agitated string
2025-02-05T09:27:26 < jpa-> apparently if your cable is long enough, it won't knot as much
2025-02-05T09:27:59 < jpa-> per length at least ;)
2025-02-05T09:29:04 < qyx> loljpa
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2025-02-05T10:23:12 < jpa-> https://jpa.kapsi.fi/stuff/pix/stm32l451_spi_bootloader_fail.png   meh, why does the rom bootloader decide to randomly leave 8 bytes in middle unflashed
2025-02-05T10:25:44 < qyx> maybe try small delays after 8 byte groups?
2025-02-05T10:26:13 < qyx> what if a new dword is received and programming is not yet finished
2025-02-05T10:27:43 < jpa-> i think it is supposed to take up to 256 bytes into RAM buffer and then you poll after that for the write to finish
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2025-02-05T10:28:27 < jpa-> i can see the poll taking a normal time to finish (same as other pages) and reporting success (0x79)
2025-02-05T10:28:30 < qyx> idk how it works
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2025-02-05T10:28:39 < qyx> hm
2025-02-05T10:33:00 < jpa-> seems pretty random actually
2025-02-05T10:33:12 < jpa-> sometimes i do get error reply from the write commands
2025-02-05T10:36:36 < jpa-> hmm, every failure occurs at offset 0xE0 within a 256 byte page
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2025-02-05T10:39:46 < jpa-> ah, "If the write destination is the flash memory, the master must wait enough time for the sent
2025-02-05T10:39:46 < jpa-> buffer to be written (refer to product datasheet for timing values) before polling for a slave
2025-02-05T10:39:46 < jpa-> response.
2025-02-05T10:40:03 < qyx> I was about to say
2025-02-05T10:40:07 < qyx> but that's pretty dumb
2025-02-05T10:40:48 < jpa-> yeah, seems like they could have just set up the SPI to answer the busy byte by itself
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2025-02-05T10:54:21 < jpa-> ok, i added the delay and now everything is 0xFF
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2025-02-05T11:26:02 < qyx> at least it is more determinisstic now
2025-02-05T11:30:30 < jpa-> now it works for some reason
2025-02-05T11:30:35 < jpa-> let's ship it
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2025-02-05T12:34:54 < mawk> not much yet Steffanx 
2025-02-05T12:35:00 < mawk> stefan tried to call like 5 times
2025-02-05T12:35:03 < mawk> but we didn't pick up 
2025-02-05T12:35:04 < mawk> lol
2025-02-05T12:35:23 < mawk> we're trying to buy a lot of stock in advance
2025-02-05T12:36:28 < qyx> much panic
2025-02-05T12:36:46 < Steffanx> Hah
2025-02-05T12:37:08 < Steffanx> Maybe Stefan give them for cheap
2025-02-05T12:37:41 < Steffanx> Batenburg sometimes has a largish stock of ublox modules 
2025-02-05T12:38:19 < Steffanx> gives*
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2025-02-05T13:24:56 < mawk> well if we have to change the radio it will cost a looooooooooooooooot of money
2025-02-05T13:25:02 < mawk> to re-do the EMC and RED testing
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2025-02-05T16:05:11 < qyx> why bother
2025-02-05T16:16:26 < c10ud_> CAN_IT_LEC: Last error code Interrupt;        
2025-02-05T16:16:26 < c10ud_>                   If enabled, this interrupt source is pending when a message has 
2025-02-05T16:16:26 < c10ud_>                   been transferred (reception or transmission) with error and the 
2025-02-05T16:16:26 < c10ud_>                   error code is hold.
2025-02-05T16:16:41 < c10ud_> this is triggering with 0 as error code, expected?
2025-02-05T16:23:54 < jpa-> gah.. STM32L452RET6 and STM32L452RET6P having different pinouts.. i think this is not the first time i get confused by that
2025-02-05T16:31:03 < c10ud_> msr with ERRI but esr == 0
2025-02-05T16:34:25 < qyx> jpa-: whatcha doing with L4? something legacy?
2025-02-05T16:35:05 < qyx> L451/2, L461/2 is my go-to too for low power designs although I want to move on to U5
2025-02-05T16:42:41 < fenugrec> c10ud_ I dunno, do you have other clues, passive-error mode, REC/TEC incrementing etc
2025-02-05T16:43:46 < c10ud_> i'm trying to understand, this proj is using ancient boilerplate from st 
2025-02-05T16:43:53 < c10ud_> i'm trying to understand if it's clearing regs correctly
2025-02-05T16:49:20 < jpa-> qyx: somewhat yeah
2025-02-05T16:51:01 < qyx> also idk guys, is it that hard everywhere in the world to deal with salesmen?
2025-02-05T16:51:55 < qyx> asked for a quote, they ignore half of the message, fix less than quarter and screw up additional things every single time
2025-02-05T16:53:34 < qyx> and this is only a small one-off project, I wonder how people manage to build factories
2025-02-05T17:02:12 < englishman> if they dont want your money you dont have to give it to them
2025-02-05T17:03:58 < qyx> lol englishman has hilight for "sales"
2025-02-05T17:04:28 < englishman> lol
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2025-02-05T17:37:33 < karlp> bleh, vscode in flatpak won't resolve .local addresses for... unknown reasons.
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2025-02-05T18:09:01 < Steffanx> karlp vs vscode. vscode adds another win.
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2025-02-05T18:49:06 < BrainDamage> karlp: my guess is that you have avahi, and it's somehow trying to access the dbus socket directly
2025-02-05T18:50:08 < BrainDamage> you could try passing --socket=system-bus and see if that fixes it, if it does, you can remove it and add a more fine-grained permission
2025-02-05T18:50:18 < BrainDamage> in flatpak override
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2025-02-05T19:13:49 < karlp> eyah, there's nothing in flatseal that looks remotely relevant.
2025-02-05T19:14:13 < karlp> I found someone with a similar problem and they edited resolved.conf in side their root flatpak, which is... way otu of line for me.
2025-02-05T19:14:31 < karlp> I've currently just splatted the name into a config file to the IP, already spent enough time on it.
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2025-02-05T19:14:50 < karlp> but yeah, more vscode winning :)
2025-02-05T19:15:15 < karlp> did you know you can't select the int/hex for gdb value printing in vscode? that's pretty awesome...
2025-02-05T19:16:00 < ventyl> vscode for embedded running on windows. also in your class since this Friday
2025-02-05T19:16:23 < ventyl> so. much. suffering.
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2025-02-05T19:17:21 < karlp> I miss netbeans...
2025-02-05T19:24:26 < englishman> speaking of .local, and its unrelated, but what does everyone use for local network discovery? say i have 100 networked instruments to set up and i want to detect them all, .local isn’t really good for that, do i have them send broadcast packets then have the host computer listen for them all until they enumerate
2025-02-05T19:28:30 < jpa-> hardcode addresses
2025-02-05T19:29:07 < englishman> bring my own network
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2025-02-05T19:31:22 < ventyl> englishman: can't you send some broadcast of e.g. "minions, i want to hear your voice!" and then simply collect responses?
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2025-02-05T20:08:22 < englishman> true instead of spamming
2025-02-05T20:15:30 < karlp> avahi-browse -rv _your_subtype._tcp?
2025-02-05T20:15:33 < bitmask> whats the correct way to use a laptop that always has access to power? Do you always leave it plugged in and let it run out every month or so? Do you only plug it in when it needs to charge? 
2025-02-05T20:16:34 < karlp> does anyone know how to close a connection hard in esp_http_server component if yu want to just say no?  I'm trying ot refuse put requests for new firmwares that are too large, but it it waits until it's finished receiving the whole thing.
2025-02-05T20:17:11 < karlp> englishman: but yeah, quite a few things (jlink, unifi, et al) just have devices bind a udp port, and they just send out a broadcast to discover them all.
2025-02-05T20:17:18 < karlp> needs custom apps to find them though of course...
2025-02-05T20:29:48 < karlp> ahha, I was trying to do "return httpd_resp_send_err(req, HTTPD_400_BAD_REQUEST, "Image is too big");"
2025-02-05T20:30:03 < karlp> but that "succeeds" in sending the reply, so it doesn't count as a failure for the outer layer.
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2025-02-05T20:42:25 < jpa-> bitmask: if you can set it to charge to 80% and keep it there, that's probably best for battery longevity
2025-02-05T20:42:39 < jpa-> bitmask: i don't think occassionally letting it run out has much benefit at all
2025-02-05T20:42:47 < bitmask> yea thats what I do with my phone but not sure I can with this, maybe theres an app
2025-02-05T20:42:54 < bitmask> i see
2025-02-05T20:43:30 < jpa-> if it is the macbook, i think it does that automatically
2025-02-05T20:44:21 < jpa-> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406957/can-i-tell-my-mac-to-charge-to-80-only   though apparently you can tinker
2025-02-05T20:46:29 < bitmask> Yea I think its supposed to learn but I haven't noticed it limiting it, though my usage has been strange recently so thats probably why. When I move and have a better setup I guess it will learn
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2025-02-05T21:06:33 < englishman> no problem for custom app as long as we document it
2025-02-05T21:06:37 < englishman> thx karl
2025-02-05T21:08:12 < bitmask> ugh, stomach acid meds take too long to work
2025-02-05T21:24:49 < Steffanx> jpa- are you jbo?
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2025-02-05T23:10:48 < bitmask> sooo much to buy...
2025-02-05T23:10:54 < bitmask> someone give me monies
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2025-02-06T00:53:16 < qyx> hello k-line crew
2025-02-06T00:53:21 < qyx> jbo: am here
2025-02-06T01:15:59 < karlp> what, you mean, bringing my earth shattering shakes with me? :)
2025-02-06T01:16:29 < karlp> nah. just watching it with popcorn :)
2025-02-06T01:16:45 < karlp> if it actualyl happens, shits fucked j0, so, fuck all I can do anyway.
2025-02-06T01:17:09 < karlp> englishman: pros: you can do absolutely whatever garbage you want
2025-02-06T01:17:15 < karlp> cons: nothing else will automatically work.
2025-02-06T01:17:47 < karlp> we did upnp + mdns on our old gateway, made it turn up in "network->oterh devices" on windows, and you could jsut double click and open it's admin console.
2025-02-06T01:18:10 < karlp> I'm still dissapointed at how poorly mdns services are integrated into linux/mac browsing shit.
2025-02-06T01:18:21 < karlp> you still virtually need custom apps, even to use standard mdns.
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2025-02-06T01:35:56 < karlp> fucking 20 hours offline status for my playstation game.
2025-02-06T01:35:58 < karlp> wtf is this
2025-02-06T01:36:01 < karlp> where's doge?!!!!
2025-02-06T01:36:16 < karlp> obviously some dei has crept in that needs "maintennace"
2025-02-06T01:36:55 < karlp> 14 hours planned downtime for "backend databse updates" extended by 8 hours.
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2025-02-06T09:13:59 < qyx> karlp: I like the doubleclick to open thing
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2025-02-06T10:12:17 < qyx> warning: useless storage class specifier in empty declaration
2025-02-06T10:13:09 < qyx> actually it is not wrong
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2025-02-06T10:46:42 < machinehum> Has anyone used the nRF54?
2025-02-06T10:52:21 < machinehum> or 53
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2025-02-06T11:42:50 < Steffanx> Only a little, but it's all Zephyr so it's all the same 😝
2025-02-06T12:08:01 < ventyl> 2025 will be a good year if freertos falls into obsolescence
2025-02-06T12:10:28 < Steffanx> I stopped using nrf53 when I learned the interface between the cores it too slow to support the nordic low latency packet mode.
2025-02-06T12:10:54 < Steffanx> Or at least how nordic had it implemented at the time
2025-02-06T12:51:40 < karlp> qyx: yeah, the click once to preview, but not assign a tab vs double click to open a real tab for it is fine
2025-02-06T12:51:42 < karlp> there's good bits.
2025-02-06T12:51:47 < karlp> there's an awful lot of wat thouh.
2025-02-06T12:57:02 < karlp> fuck yeah, rollback image uploads are working on my esp32 project
2025-02-06T12:57:16 < karlp> now "just" a bunch of web js shit to make it nicely useable over the rest apis I made
2025-02-06T13:20:38 < karlp> I wish it could mark static differently to public functions in the outline though...
2025-02-06T13:30:02 < karlp> apparentlythat's been a known problem since 2016 though that they just aren't going to handle :)
2025-02-06T13:37:27 < mawk> what's wrong with it ventyl 
2025-02-06T13:37:31 < mawk> I like it
2025-02-06T13:42:10 < qyx> it is orbanized
2025-02-06T13:42:27 < qyx> my xHead hurts
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2025-02-06T14:11:03 < qyx> it took me 1.5 hour to catch a single character bug
2025-02-06T14:11:09 < qyx> rx->tx queue
2025-02-06T14:37:08 < mawk> at least it was not an invisible character
2025-02-06T14:37:19 < mawk> sometimes I hit altgr+space instead of space and it enters a non-breaking space
2025-02-06T14:37:27 < mawk> and compilers don't like it
2025-02-06T14:38:57 < mawk> ' ' versus 
2025-02-06T14:38:58 < mawk> ' '
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2025-02-06T15:01:40 < Steffanx> Why would you want it to do that anyway mr mawk?
2025-02-06T15:01:51 < Steffanx> How often do you need a nbsp
2025-02-06T15:02:25 < Steffanx> Even in french that's absurd 
2025-02-06T15:04:37 < mawk> it's not on purpose
2025-02-06T15:04:46 < mawk> alt-gr is next to the space key
2025-02-06T15:04:53 < mawk> and you need altgr to input symbols on an azerty keyboard
2025-02-06T15:04:56 < mawk> like [ ] { } etc
2025-02-06T15:05:00 < mawk> so you use it a lot
2025-02-06T15:20:09 < BrainDamage> you can customize your keyb layout to add eg shift to have the non breaking space
2025-02-06T15:20:36 < BrainDamage> you could probably also create a syntax highlighting rule for non breaking spaces
2025-02-06T15:20:50 < BrainDamage> and most importantly, you should forsake azerty, it's an abomination
2025-02-06T15:29:27 < fenugrec> ^
2025-02-06T15:37:11 < karlp> fucking server out of disk space. another thing I really didn't have fucking time for today.
2025-02-06T15:40:32 < ALTracer> how are you taking backups March 31st otherwise?:)
2025-02-06T15:42:34 < fenugrec> I just schedule backups for feb 30th
2025-02-06T15:48:01 < karlp> meh, at some point I downsidedmy linode and added 40gb of block storage to save money.  the _smaller_ linode I downsized too now has 50gb included.
2025-02-06T15:52:01 < qyx> mawk: happens to me too
2025-02-06T15:52:24 < qyx> unknown stray in program \302 or whatis the error
2025-02-06T15:52:37 < karlp> feck, at some point these nginx/whatever scripts didn't get fully migrated.
2025-02-06T15:52:49 < karlp> access logs haven't been rotated and compressed for 2 years :)
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2025-02-06T16:14:36 < mawk> azerty is our national pride BrainDamage 
2025-02-06T16:15:14 < BrainDamage> then you need a new nation and new pride
2025-02-06T16:15:30 < mawk> :(
2025-02-06T16:18:36  * karlp lols
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2025-02-06T17:47:44 < karlp> is there any reason for uploading a new firmware, but not rebooting into it?
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2025-02-06T18:01:04 < qyx> yes prepare surprises for people handling the next short power outage
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2025-02-06T18:07:12 < specing> :D
2025-02-06T18:20:19 < jbo> moin
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2025-02-06T19:10:07 < Steffanx> Gooday Mr jbo 
2025-02-06T19:10:16 < Steffanx> And ml bitmask 
2025-02-06T19:12:58 < qyx> karlp: also yes for protocol updates
2025-02-06T19:13:16 < jbo> why is godaddy being a bitch
2025-02-06T19:13:21 < jbo> they don't want you to SMTP
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2025-02-06T19:52:05 < bitmask> gooday sir
2025-02-06T19:56:56 < jbo> how's the new macbook?
2025-02-06T20:01:50 < karlp> qyx: yeah, I was considering that. you might want to stage it, but still.
2025-02-06T20:02:10 < bitmask> love it
2025-02-06T20:02:38 < Steffanx> is it mutual?
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2025-02-06T20:06:26 < jbo> or consensual?
2025-02-06T20:06:27 < bitmask> of course not
2025-02-06T20:06:37 < bitmask> she is tied up
2025-02-06T20:08:08 < Steffanx> Can she do the dishes?
2025-02-06T20:09:36 < bitmask> she will be able to after I get done with the belt
2025-02-06T20:10:30 < Steffanx> Get back to work ml bitmask 
2025-02-06T20:10:36 < bitmask> haha
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2025-02-07T10:45:07 < qyx> so openwrt ignores my whole firewall setup because I miss the required kernel modules
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2025-02-07T11:29:53 < mawk> nic
2025-02-07T11:29:54 < mawk> e
2025-02-07T11:30:16 < jpa-> the nic e won't show up if you don't have the modules for it
2025-02-07T11:30:46 < mawk> :(
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2025-02-07T11:33:07 < qyx> yeah I had all nft modules disabled
2025-02-07T11:33:27  * qyx commits crime
2025-02-07T11:33:35 < qyx> masquerading on ipv6
2025-02-07T11:33:41 < mawk> whyyy
2025-02-07T11:33:50 < mawk> do NPT if you really have to do it
2025-02-07T11:33:55 < mawk> to translate a /64 to another /64 or whatever
2025-02-07T11:34:06 < mawk> then addreses stay unique but you have your prefix translation as you want
2025-02-07T11:34:14 < qyx> no I have a bridge bridging TUN to my custom serial protocol
2025-02-07T11:34:22 < mawk> and it does it so the header checksum stays the same so it's super quick
2025-02-07T11:34:25 < qyx> I need the addresses to be within /96, including the source
2025-02-07T11:34:54 < qyx> so I am SNAT-ing the source to the address set on the virtual interface
2025-02-07T11:35:08 < mawk> why is that required
2025-02-07T11:35:16 < mawk> you can route anything to any interface
2025-02-07T11:35:30 < qyx> I can't route 128 bits of source address over my proto
2025-02-07T11:36:06 < mawk> ah
2025-02-07T11:36:35 < mawk> you can only do 32 bits?
2025-02-07T11:36:41 < qyx> yes, or 16
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2025-02-07T11:37:09 < qyx> anyway, works except the nat part
2025-02-07T11:37:12 < mawk> I am doing NPT on a /112 on my home network, it doesn't have to be /64
2025-02-07T11:37:13 < qyx> I need new kernel
2025-02-07T11:37:20 < mawk> can't you use out of tree modules?
2025-02-07T11:37:28 < mawk> they're not necessarily builtin modules
2025-02-07T11:38:22 < mawk> on my ubuntu all the nft_ modules are not builtin, they're given as .ko files
2025-02-07T11:43:20 < qyx> let's see if the thing boots
2025-02-07T11:43:27 < qyx> heartbeat is on already
2025-02-07T11:44:00 < qyx> and I hope ssh is accessible.. when the firewall finally works
2025-02-07T11:44:08 < qyx> port 22: Connection refused
2025-02-07T11:50:14 < mawk> well the firewall works
2025-02-07T11:50:17 < mawk> now you're locked out
2025-02-07T11:50:22 < mawk> perfect
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2025-02-07T12:05:07 < qyx> works now
2025-02-07T12:05:10 < qyx> including snat
2025-02-07T12:05:19 < mawk> nice
2025-02-07T12:05:24 < mawk> except that you're going to hell
2025-02-07T12:08:08 < qyx> this is a specific situation when I want to transparently map my protocol ID-space to a /96 subnet accessible from the internet
2025-02-07T12:08:25 < qyx> but the internet should behave as if it was the protocol network master
2025-02-07T12:09:31 < qyx> it is impossible to do the other way unless I map sub-ID-space to a small ipv6 subnetwork
2025-02-07T12:09:52 < qyx> hm, ok, should be actually doable to
2025-02-07T12:10:06 < qyx> yeah npt should work too
2025-02-07T12:10:56 < ALTracer> bless uarts and serial console on openwrt
2025-02-07T12:42:34 < mawk> you're mapping a /96 to a /96
2025-02-07T12:42:40 < mawk> that's exactly what NPT is for
2025-02-07T12:42:53 < mawk> and the neat part is as I said the address translation is fully stateless
2025-02-07T12:43:01 < mawk> and fast because the checksum is kept invariant
2025-02-07T12:43:15 < mawk> so it's not simply swapping the prefix it's also swapping a few bits here and there but it's easy to compute the result in advance
2025-02-07T12:44:01 < mawk> then you can advertise each of the address in the /96 as being "owned" by the router so they respond to NDP and so on, if you need to
2025-02-07T12:44:14 < mawk> but that's only necessary if you have an ugly ISP router that you don't control in front of you
2025-02-07T12:44:29 < mawk> if you have a prefix delegation then you do what you want
2025-02-07T12:45:22 < mawk> for just a couple address you enable ndp_proxy and add addresses one by one with `ip neigh add proxy $addr dev $iface'
2025-02-07T12:45:41 < mawk> if you want to do the whole range unconditionnally like I think you want, then you need a ndp proxy daemon thing
2025-02-07T12:45:52 < mawk> https://github.com/DanielAdolfsson/ndppd
2025-02-07T12:46:03 < mawk> again, only necessary if you don't have a prefix delegation from your ISP
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2025-02-07T13:20:07 < karlp> this is kind cool: https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/chip-free-wireless-tags-are-more-sustainable-and-cut-e-waste/
2025-02-07T13:20:10 < karlp> the paper is nice too,
2025-02-07T13:20:21 < karlp> but the article says it can do ID information as well, and that's  never mentioned in the paper?!
2025-02-07T13:20:55 < karlp> "The wireless tags can be read by low-cost hand-held wireless readers" <<= means "nanovna"
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2025-02-07T13:49:58 < mawk> look at this little beauty I made: https://ideone.com/oeJzvA
2025-02-07T13:50:19 < mawk> `build_bitmask(1, 2, 3)` returns 14
2025-02-07T13:50:27 < mawk> it takes any number of arguments
2025-02-07T13:50:40 < mawk> and it works in C, not C++
2025-02-07T13:51:11 < mawk> I can cook up a different solution involving a macro and not a function, but it will still require GCC extensions so whatever
2025-02-07T13:52:30 -!- hexo [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
2025-02-07T13:54:33 < mawk> macro variant: https://ideone.com/8FCwUA
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2025-02-07T14:18:36 < jpa-> what's wrong with just   #define BM(x) ((uint32_t)1 << (x))     and then   BM(1) | BM(2) | BM(3)
2025-02-07T14:19:20 < mawk> it's not as cool
2025-02-07T14:19:34 < mawk> and slightly more verbose
2025-02-07T14:19:45 < mawk> and then I can't waste company time researching cool GCC extensions
2025-02-07T14:19:56 < mawk> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Constructing-Calls.html
2025-02-07T14:20:00 < jpa-> karlp: and without ID it is really old.. like the metal strip theft alarms
2025-02-07T14:26:18 < karlp> jpa-: not sure I follow?
2025-02-07T14:26:34 < karlp> I mean tthe temperature sensing part of it?
2025-02-07T14:26:45 < karlp> not just "detect 'a tag' without a chip"
2025-02-07T14:27:23 < jpa-> ah
2025-02-07T14:28:36 < qyx> mawk: no worky though
2025-02-07T14:29:03 < jpa-> i think i have seen passive LC resonator based temperature sensors too
2025-02-07T14:29:56 < jpa-> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9471884   i guess there are always new materials to implement the idea
2025-02-07T14:30:18 < mawk> what qyx 
2025-02-07T14:30:57 < mawk> it works perfectly
2025-02-07T14:37:14 < qyx> it works if both networks are ipv6 capable
2025-02-07T14:37:50 < qyx> I can't translate the destination only because source would be outside of the routable range
2025-02-07T14:37:51 < mawk> ah you mean NPT
2025-02-07T14:38:00 < mawk> I thought you were talking about my beautiful variadic function
2025-02-07T14:38:39 < mawk> well you translate back and forth
2025-02-07T14:38:47 < mawk> in input and output
2025-02-07T14:39:02 < mawk> but the source has to be in a /96 as well
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2025-02-07T15:25:06 < jbo> people
2025-02-07T15:25:19 < mawk> what did they do
2025-02-07T15:29:48 < mawk> I have no idea what my colleague was thinking:
2025-02-07T15:29:51 < mawk> time_t temp_time = *(uint32_t *)((char *)((tstScheduleMoment *)&schedulem_moments + i) + offsetof(tstScheduleMoment, schedule_timestamp));
2025-02-07T15:30:12 < mawk> which is exactly the same as temp_time = schedulem_moments[i].schedule_timestamp;
2025-02-07T15:30:30 < jbo> job security?
2025-02-07T15:30:33 < mawk> he felt like deconstructing the array indexing and then the structure property access
2025-02-07T15:30:35 < mawk> maybe
2025-02-07T15:30:42 < mawk> he even left a comment // XXX - TODO: This specific line is used alot, create a function for it?
2025-02-07T15:30:50 < jbo> lol
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2025-02-07T19:53:06 < jpa-> bitmask: mawk is doing evil gcc-specific things to you
2025-02-07T19:53:23 < bitmask> ?
2025-02-07T19:53:33 < bitmask> is this a play on my name?
2025-02-07T19:54:36 < jpa-> yes
2025-02-07T19:54:50 < bitmask> bastard
2025-02-07T19:55:16 < bitmask> leave me alone
2025-02-07T19:55:23 < specing> lo
2025-02-07T20:11:00 < bitmask> ugh, my game engine is lacking... trying to implement compute shaders is showing me how limited I made some things
2025-02-07T20:11:53 < bitmask> Ive never been good at building up functionality from the ground up. I end up trying to hide too much functionality into one thing and then when I need to add something new I have to rewrite a lot
2025-02-07T20:21:40 < Steffanx> Luckily you've been training some AIs, so they can help you fix it now, ml bitmask
2025-02-07T20:21:56 < bitmask> psh, AI still sucks
2025-02-07T20:22:17 < bitmask> luckily
2025-02-07T20:22:30 < bitmask> I'm not irrelevant yet
2025-02-07T20:22:49 < ds2> have faith in yourself... don't hide anything :D
2025-02-07T20:22:49 < Steffanx> Nah. They can generate some python codes faster than i could type it. Usable, incl. some libs i had to google otherwise :P
2025-02-07T20:23:17 < Steffanx> Not that i WANT to do that, but as a POC it wasnt too bad
2025-02-07T20:23:23 < bitmask> sure, they can be helpful, but its nowhere near being able to one shot an entire app
2025-02-07T20:23:50 < bitmask> AI is black?
2025-02-07T20:23:53 < Steffanx> yes it can. depending on the size of the app.
2025-02-07T20:24:08 < Steffanx> even free chatgpt can do it
2025-02-07T20:26:12 < Steffanx> but when i want AI to do something useful for me they suck. Like the time when i wanted it to give me the outline of something I scanned and the coordinates of the holes. Chatgpt failed to even find the holes, claude more or less found the holes, but failed on the outline. Drawing anything of it in an SVG wasn't a huge success either.
2025-02-07T20:26:30 < Steffanx> i was disappointed once again in my life
2025-02-07T20:26:44 < bitmask> heh
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2025-02-07T20:48:14 < bitmask> its pretty cool that in TextEdit, if you write an equation it answers it for you now
2025-02-07T20:57:46 < Steffanx> You should do something like that entirely with macros mr mawk. come on... 
2025-02-07T20:58:10 < Steffanx> Download Zephyr. Include kernel.nl and do: 
2025-02-07T20:58:16 < Steffanx> #define BITSHIFT(x)	(1 << x)
2025-02-07T20:58:16 < Steffanx> #define MAWK_MASK(...) FOR_EACH(BITSHIFT, (|) , __VA_ARGS__ )
2025-02-07T20:58:42 < Steffanx> even vscode is smart enough to expand that to (1 << 1) | (1 << 2) | (1 << 4)
2025-02-07T20:59:47 < Steffanx> *h
2025-02-07T20:59:52 < Steffanx> not sure how i made that into .nl lol
2025-02-07T21:00:05 < bitmask> haha
2025-02-07T21:00:06 < Steffanx> True nationalism
2025-02-07T21:12:25 < Steffanx> It's ugly as hell though 
2025-02-07T21:36:59 < bitmask> you know they always say that coders look like the code they write
2025-02-07T21:38:38 < qyx> very true, I have seen some metrosexual programmers spending 90% of time making their code look more beautiful than fuctional
2025-02-07T21:55:58 < jpa-> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/blob/main/include/zephyr/sys/util_loops.h   it's beautiful!
2025-02-07T22:01:40 < qyx> the hell is that
2025-02-07T22:44:09 < Steffanx>  jpa- looked at the origin of my mawk_mask code
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2025-02-07T22:46:57 < Steffanx> to turn MAWK_MASK(1,2,3) into (1 << 1) | (1 << 2) | (1 << 4) .. i mean who doesnt want that?!
2025-02-07T22:48:20 < Steffanx> *1,2,4
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2025-02-08T00:38:39 < qyx> time for some nasal decongestant, vitamins and nsaid
2025-02-08T00:39:03 < qyx> before being capable of doing some work
2025-02-08T00:47:57 < Steffanx> What about some proper sleep?
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2025-02-08T02:24:26 < qyx_> TUN pros, why are my packets routed back to the device
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2025-02-08T03:00:16 < qyx> I can't make netcat behave with ipv6 on openwrt :S
2025-02-08T03:05:58 < lemmi> there are several netcat flavours. don't know how many openwrt has packaged
2025-02-08T03:08:49 < qyx> half a million
2025-02-08T03:08:58 < qyx> 3 netcats, one ncat and stuff, socat
2025-02-08T03:09:01 < qyx> anyway socat works
2025-02-08T03:09:15 < qyx> such a mess
2025-02-08T03:12:43 < qyx> omg sleep 0.1, invalid number
2025-02-08T03:12:48 < qyx> half-dun tools
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2025-02-08T03:21:43 < lemmi> well that's busybox for you
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2025-02-08T11:03:56 < Steffanx> Can't BusyBox be configured to support it?
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2025-02-08T11:06:43 < qyx> I hope I can completely avoid busybox
2025-02-08T11:06:54 < qyx> I am not limited by storage
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2025-02-08T11:50:18 < jpa-> toybox?
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2025-02-08T11:55:40 < Steffanx> What's in your toy box jpa- ?
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2025-02-08T11:57:21 < BrainDamage> it took me a second you weren't talking about my server (it's named toybox)
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2025-02-08T14:16:40 < qyx> how am I supposed to parse ipv6 addr in c on lunix, sounds hard
2025-02-08T14:54:29 < Steffanx> Something inet_pton won't do the job?
2025-02-08T14:58:57 < qyx> oh indeed, thanks
2025-02-08T14:59:03 < qyx> couldn't find it
2025-02-08T14:59:11 < qyx> maybe i should have used my AI friend
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2025-02-08T15:36:02 < Steffanx> yes, you could have typed exactly that in chatgpt
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2025-02-08T15:51:29 < qyx> 7
2025-02-08T15:51:32 < qyx> lol really
2025-02-08T15:51:34 < qyx> works
2025-02-08T15:52:52 < ALTracer> Thanks for jvnv paste whoever the hoster is
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2025-02-08T16:00:54 < Steffanx> Mr z y p from this channel it is ALTracer 
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2025-02-08T18:41:13 < jbo> lies
2025-02-08T18:50:38 < Steffanx> I'm sorry jbo 
2025-02-08T18:50:44 < jbo> you're welcome
2025-02-08T19:21:41 < Steffanx> How can lies be welcome Mr jbo?
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2025-02-08T20:57:56 < ALTracer> why is it indexed by search engines? Is there a robots.txt?
2025-02-08T21:02:45 < ALTracer> he does run some mailserver together with traefik on it...
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2025-02-08T21:07:51 < ALTracer> no, gunicorn, and mx records are for googlemail, ignore me
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2025-02-08T22:15:09 < qyx> my AI friend recommends me to talk to regulatory experts
2025-02-08T22:15:22 < qyx> so, liebe regulatory experts, do I need to do RED for a GNSS receiver?
2025-02-08T22:16:47 < qyx> Equipment which intentionally emits or receives radio waves for the purpose of radio communication or radiodetermination makes systematic use of radio spectrum. In order to ensure an efficient use of radio spectrum so as to avoid harmful interference, all such equipment should fall within the scope of this Directive
2025-02-08T22:16:52 < qyx> oh, there is that *or*
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2025-02-08T22:31:39 < mawk> that doesn't work for any number of arguments Steffanx 
2025-02-08T22:31:44 < mawk> the for each thing
2025-02-08T22:31:49 < mawk> if you look at the source code you will see why
2025-02-08T22:31:52 < mawk> very ugly
2025-02-08T22:32:05 < mawk> my solution works for any amount of argument
2025-02-08T22:32:11 < mawk> and I also gave a macro-only version
2025-02-08T22:32:30 < Steffanx> That wasnt a macro only solution really. Also.. your macro was ugly in the first place
2025-02-08T22:33:08 < Steffanx> Also doing > 64 parameters to such function... 
2025-02-08T22:33:20 < mawk> yes it was
2025-02-08T22:33:23 < mawk> I gave 2 solutions
2025-02-08T22:33:29 < mawk> one with functions one with a single macro
2025-02-08T22:34:42 < Steffanx> Sure it was a macro, not as pretty as mine.
2025-02-08T22:35:40 < mawk> wrong
2025-02-08T22:35:48 < mawk> your macro is using the thing from zephyr
2025-02-08T22:35:54 < mawk> which is anything but pretty
2025-02-08T22:36:08 < mawk> mine is simply putting its arguments in an array and iterating over it
2025-02-08T22:36:11 < mawk> as simple as it gets
2025-02-08T22:37:19 < Steffanx> Mine is outputing the final expression directly and even vscode gets it.
2025-02-08T22:37:29 < Steffanx> "directly"
2025-02-08T22:37:41 < mawk> so what
2025-02-08T22:37:52 < mawk> it's still extremely ugly when you look how it works
2025-02-08T22:38:09 < mawk> you have to consider the macro in its totality
2025-02-08T22:38:29 < mawk> your macro necessitates a 1000 lines file that makes you blind when you try to read it
2025-02-08T22:38:31 < mawk> mine is self-contained
2025-02-08T22:39:38 < Steffanx> Anyway, the entire thing is ugly. Using parameters to generate such bitmask. So every solution is ugly.
2025-02-08T22:40:07 < mawk> no it's not
2025-02-08T22:40:11 < mawk> doing it by hand is uglier
2025-02-08T22:40:30 < mawk> bitmask(x, y, z) versus ((1 << x) | (1 << y) | (1 << z))
2025-02-08T22:40:38 < Steffanx> ugly.
2025-02-08T22:40:39 < mawk> it's clearly uglier on the right
2025-02-08T22:40:50 < mawk> especially when it's more than 3
2025-02-08T22:43:07 < Steffanx> Im sure we'll never agree on this so...
2025-02-08T22:45:20 < Steffanx> Pros would write 0xE directly :P
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2025-02-08T22:54:11 < ALTracer> wtf is Z_FOR_EACH, I want to unsee it
2025-02-08T22:57:08 < ALTracer> in what world a `va_list` is considered beautiful? For bitmasks even. 
2025-02-08T22:58:22 < Steffanx> It's in the part of the world where consider French to be a beautiful language :P
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2025-02-08T22:58:51 < ALTracer> mawk: I would like to see the macro variant 8FCwUA assembly for a few calls in firmware, so godbolt snippet; does it do that thing in runtime or GCC is smart enough to constant-propagate
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2025-02-08T22:59:16 < ALTracer> s'il vous plait
2025-02-08T23:01:38 < Steffanx> GCC is smart enough
2025-02-08T23:02:46 < Steffanx> With the macro variant atleast
2025-02-08T23:04:46 < mawk> you're looking at the wrong snippet ALTracer 
2025-02-08T23:04:57 < mawk> the va_list is for the function-only variant 
2025-02-08T23:05:00 < mawk> without a macro
2025-02-08T23:11:29 < mawk> va_list is how you do multiple arguments in C, so if you don't want to use macros you have to use that
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2025-02-09T02:14:46 < jbo> why does my stuff not work
2025-02-09T02:22:15 < qyx> https://orlybooks.com/books/trying-stuff-until-it-works
2025-02-09T02:23:30 < jbo> :D
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2025-02-09T03:38:33 < qyx> Steffanx: is there any significat thing I can't do without bt sig certification?
2025-02-09T03:38:38 < qyx> I already consulted my AI friend
2025-02-09T03:39:15 < qyx> he said various things I understand but it is not very sure about IP infringement
2025-02-09T03:39:31 < qyx> (of course I can't say it is BT compatible)
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2025-02-09T12:22:15 < Steffanx> I can understand GPTs uncertainty. I am uncertain as well
2025-02-09T12:22:39 < Steffanx> Especially about the use of the technology, patents and shit
2025-02-09T12:22:55 < Steffanx> @ mr qyx 
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2025-02-09T13:17:08 < qyx> and that's the reason ethernet si superior to anything else
2025-02-09T13:27:51 < Steffanx> Or you just ignore it and go with it :P
2025-02-09T13:28:08 < Steffanx> Doesn't half of the world do that?
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2025-02-09T15:27:18 < englishman> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/denitdao/o-rly-collection/refs/heads/main/public/book_covers/holy-c.jpg
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2025-02-09T15:36:07 < Steffanx> I expected other cover
2025-02-09T15:57:55 < Steffanx> another*
2025-02-09T16:03:04 < qyx> hm, ST lists buildroot & openwrt support (MP2)
2025-02-09T16:03:16 < qyx> maybe I could try one more time
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2025-02-09T17:04:37 < Steffanx> You sure?
2025-02-09T17:05:53 < qyx> not that much
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2025-02-09T19:14:59 < bitmask> how am I using half a tb already
2025-02-09T19:15:17 < bitmask> I havent even installed windows yet
2025-02-09T19:15:33 < bitmask> going with 2TB was a good choice
2025-02-09T19:23:11 < jbo> how much of it is pr0n, bitmask ?
2025-02-09T19:24:19 < bitmask> who saves porn? gotta watch something new every time!
2025-02-09T19:26:16 < Steffanx> Windows on your Mac bitmask ?
2025-02-09T19:26:21 < bitmask> yea
2025-02-09T19:26:26 < bitmask> using parallels
2025-02-09T19:26:30 < Steffanx> Meh
2025-02-09T19:26:55 < bitmask> meh to you
2025-02-09T19:27:31 < jbo> meh to both of you!
2025-02-09T19:27:53 < bitmask> meh to all of you!
2025-02-09T19:28:32 < Steffanx> For the price of that extra storage you couldve bought an entire proper nuc/laptop for just windows
2025-02-09T19:29:51 < bitmask> lame
2025-02-09T19:30:06 < bitmask> I don't use windows much
2025-02-09T19:30:06 < jbo> fanboy
2025-02-09T19:30:31 < bitmask> not at all, it just doesn't matter what you use, but having both options is helpful
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2025-02-09T19:36:22 < Steffanx> Is FreeBSD fanoyism a thing jbo ? :P
2025-02-09T19:36:25 < Steffanx> Yes its.
2025-02-09T19:36:30 < Steffanx> it is.
2025-02-09T19:36:45 < jbo> nope
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2025-02-09T20:06:07 < Steffanx> For some reason I was going to run two usb stacks (with two devices) on a single STM32H7. The more I look into it, the more I get the idea most stacks don't support running two in parellel. Especially not when both use the same device class.
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2025-02-09T20:06:31 < Steffanx> most = perhaps none (?)
2025-02-09T20:06:56 < qyx> welcome to the world of lame libs and micropython
2025-02-09T20:07:19 < qyx> multi instance is the basic of any library code design
2025-02-09T20:07:43 < Steffanx> The one that comes closest seems to be the cube.
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2025-02-09T22:35:38 < karlp> anotherevening trying to get nextcloud running again, another round of frustration.
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2025-02-09T23:33:32 < qyx> I just found a "coffee" on my nerdcave stairs
2025-02-09T23:34:14 < jbo> all the shit is broken
2025-02-09T23:34:15 < qyx> I must have forgotten it there, idk how long ago but it tastes good
2025-02-09T23:34:18 < jbo> fucking hell
2025-02-09T23:34:27 < qyx> a bit cold though
2025-02-09T23:34:49 < qyx> what is jbo dennovating?
2025-02-09T23:34:59 < jbo> freebsd ports
2025-02-09T23:35:06 < Steffanx> Lol is your memory broken qyx?
2025-02-09T23:35:12 < jbo> fixed nextprn, now fixing vtk9
2025-02-09T23:36:08 < qyx> I can feel your pain using os/distro which doesn't work
2025-02-09T23:36:17 < jbo> it works absolutely beautifully
2025-02-09T23:36:20 < jbo> it's almost always upstream crap
2025-02-09T23:36:36 < jbo> lunix is hacked together af
2025-02-09T23:37:07 < jbo> upstream shit: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=284688
2025-02-09T23:37:27 < jbo> curl is also fucked
2025-02-09T23:37:28 < jbo> also upstream
2025-02-09T23:38:54 < jbo> https://github.com/curl/curl/discussions/16259
2025-02-09T23:39:41  * qyx checks the current year
2025-02-09T23:40:38 < jbo> vtk9 is broken because of netcdf
2025-02-09T23:40:42 < jbo> also upstream -__-
2025-02-09T23:41:52 < Steffanx> Things break sometimes, shit happens 
2025-02-09T23:42:01 < jbo> debian deals with the same shit, it's not FreeBSD: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1095478
2025-02-09T23:42:18 < jbo> nextpnr broken everywhere too, fedora dealing with same shit: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/nextpnr/blob/rawhide/f/0002-fedora-fix-compile-error-in-gui-quadtree.h.patch
2025-02-09T23:42:33 < jbo> the difference is that I am just the guy who takes care of the shit in FreeBSD land. so I see all the broken shit.
2025-02-09T23:43:02  * qyx checks the current year again
2025-02-09T23:43:28 < Steffanx> Did your forget which year it is already? I'm getting worried Mr qyx
2025-02-09T23:43:57 < qyx> what the hell are all those bugtrackers from the new stone age
2025-02-09T23:44:16 < jbo> bugzilla - just works
2025-02-09T23:44:24 < qyx> bugzilla was obsolete around 2005
2025-02-09T23:44:30 < Steffanx> Not enough JavaScript?
2025-02-09T23:44:32  * jbo keeps fixing shit
2025-02-09T23:44:53 < jbo> gone for three weeks and all the shit is broken
2025-02-09T23:45:40 < Steffanx> Stop using bleeding edge crap
2025-02-09T23:45:57 < jbo> how is official upstream release bleeding edge
2025-02-09T23:46:21 < jbo> at least we just got kicad 9: https://www.freshports.org/cad/kicad
2025-02-09T23:46:28 < jbo> after 8 was unable to be used with llvm
2025-02-09T23:46:34 < qyx> kiad9 is bleeding edge
2025-02-09T23:46:40 < jbo> but of course it doesn't work because vtk9 is broken
2025-02-09T23:52:24 < jbo> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271878#c10
2025-02-09T23:52:31 < jbo> > We are aware, the code base is a clusterfuck and it's a huge task to fix. It's the result of 2 decades of code piling up.
2025-02-09T23:52:42 < jbo> kicad 9 fixed it \o/
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2025-02-10T16:32:23 < qyx> I have a super pro level idea, 3xAA battery compartment allowing the user to use whatever cell fits, whichever chemistry and even heterogenous
2025-02-10T16:32:38 < qyx> not even caring about the polarity
2025-02-10T16:33:15 < jbo> kickstarter 3M$
2025-02-10T16:33:31 < qyx> for that I probably need a 6x4 power mosfet matrix or so
2025-02-10T16:33:52 < qyx> which would allow me to use one li-ion + 2 primary lisocl2 for example
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2025-02-10T16:47:22 < machinehum> qyx: Build it
2025-02-10T16:47:45 < jbo> renderings and infographics gets your more money tho
2025-02-10T16:49:29 < machinehum> Anyone have a T14 Gen1 screen they want to sell me
2025-02-10T16:50:29 < jbo> what form of payment do you have in mind?
2025-02-10T16:51:00 < machinehum> Dick pics for your obviously
2025-02-10T16:51:09 < machinehum> you
2025-02-10T16:51:18 < jbo> no used underwear - no deal
2025-02-10T16:52:57 < machinehum> You sure?
2025-02-10T16:53:54 < machinehum> wtf does the busybox verson of sed not have a -i option
2025-02-10T16:55:34 < machinehum> yoooooo
2025-02-10T16:55:40 < jbo> is it POSIX sed instead of GNU sed?
2025-02-10T16:56:02 < machinehum> dunno
2025-02-10T16:56:22 < jpa-> qyx: but will it over-discharge the li-ion batteries?
2025-02-10T16:56:27 < qyx> most probably a busybox se-
2025-02-10T16:56:48 < qyx> jpa-: I hope not
2025-02-10T16:57:00 < qyx> it would work automagically
2025-02-10T16:57:32 < jpa-> such magic
2025-02-10T16:57:35 < machinehum> A project I'm using depended on sed and was blowing up, just dropped in the full version of sed and things started working
2025-02-10T16:57:36 < jpa-> almost like technology
2025-02-10T16:57:50 < jbo> with a dip switch to select the battery config/chemistry that nobody ever forgets to set correctly
2025-02-10T16:58:15 < jpa-> my mouse seems to have two AA cells that are connected through ideal diodes to the supply
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2025-02-10T17:42:26 < bitmask> heyo
2025-02-10T17:42:38 < jbo> not today bitmask, not today
2025-02-10T17:42:44 < bitmask> ouch
2025-02-10T17:43:00 < bitmask> its gonna be okay
2025-02-10T17:50:24 < ventyl> hm, the more complicated stuff I deal with, the more coroutines seem to be a best approach to deal with them
2025-02-10T17:51:56 < jbo> +1
2025-02-10T18:13:41 < qyx> -1, not compatible with my brian
2025-02-10T18:13:57 < qyx> it is on the cmake level for me
2025-02-10T18:37:39 < machinehum> Pulled an absolute rookie maneuver
2025-02-10T18:37:57 < machinehum> Snagged an old cheap thinkpad, AMD 8 core for cheap on ebay
2025-02-10T18:38:15 < Steffanx> Why so grumpy Mr jbo?
2025-02-10T18:38:19 < machinehum> 1366x768
2025-02-10T18:38:26 < Steffanx> Ml bitmask is such friendly guy
2025-02-10T18:39:36 < Steffanx> What does one use such shitty Thinkpad for machinehum ?
2025-02-10T18:43:55 < qyx> to downgrade his m4 screen
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2025-02-10T18:48:29 < Steffanx> Does machinehum have such machine?
2025-02-10T18:48:37 < machinehum> I have an m2
2025-02-10T18:48:51 < machinehum> But I cracked the screen, and don't have money to replace it
2025-02-10T18:49:02 < machinehum> Also I'm sick of it I want proper lunux
2025-02-10T18:49:12 < machinehum> To compile my little lunux
2025-02-10T18:51:33 < Steffanx> That apple hw Lunix isn't proper enough?
2025-02-10T18:54:43 < jbo> not grumpy
2025-02-10T18:57:48 < Steffanx> Salty?
2025-02-10T19:01:41 < jbo> hopefully
2025-02-10T19:09:19 < qyx> Steffanx: sorry machinehum != bitmask
2025-02-10T19:09:44 < qyx> I am mildly dumb and confused
2025-02-10T19:10:09 < jbo> at least it's just mildly. I feel outright retarded
2025-02-10T19:13:42 < qyx> that's unfortunate
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2025-02-10T19:14:43 < Steffanx> At least your are OUR retard jbo
2025-02-10T19:17:07 < jbo> <3
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2025-02-10T22:15:09 < qyx> hm is there any part similar to a LED waveguide but doing button fingerguide?
2025-02-10T22:15:23 < qyx> being waterproof is the catch
2025-02-10T22:16:18 < qyx> hm yeah actually there are plastic keyboards with tactile dome buttons
2025-02-10T22:19:43 < qyx> https://s.alicdn.com/@sc04/kf/H8a2b16c6eb2a4b28b1e1e3e97704cb80L.jpg_720x720q50.jpg
2025-02-10T22:19:46 < qyx> this
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2025-02-10T22:59:00 < bitmask> grrr I don't know how to do this
2025-02-10T22:59:12 < jbo> bitmask, not today
2025-02-10T22:59:16 < bitmask> haha
2025-02-10T22:59:20 < bitmask> you got me
2025-02-10T22:59:30 < jbo> it's what I'm here for
2025-02-10T22:59:32 < Steffanx> Get a room you two
2025-02-10T22:59:33 < ventyl> is that some kind of a joke I should know?
2025-02-10T22:59:53 < bitmask> ventyl its a joke no one should know
2025-02-10T23:00:00 < bitmask> 'some kind of joke'*
2025-02-10T23:00:03 < ventyl> imhotep is invisible
2025-02-10T23:00:22 < bitmask> isn't that the guy from the mummy?
2025-02-10T23:00:43 < ventyl> imhotep is a guy from a math puzzle
2025-02-10T23:00:48 < Steffanx> When will you visit jbo for some real sexy time, bitmask ?
2025-02-10T23:01:06 < bitmask> who says it hasn't already happened?
2025-02-10T23:01:43 < Steffanx> Oh. I know what happened
2025-02-10T23:01:48 < jbo> in progress
2025-02-10T23:02:08 < Steffanx> Maybe it was the other way around 
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2025-02-11T00:01:04 < qyx> jpa-: regarding your mouse and ideal mouses
2025-02-11T00:01:22 < qyx> trying to find a suitable mosfet for AA reverse voltage protection
2025-02-11T00:01:27 < qyx> so far I am at SiA517DJ
2025-02-11T00:01:57 < qyx> looks marginally doable
2025-02-11T00:10:09 < qyx> SiA436DJ is better, switches at about 0.95 V
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2025-02-11T01:22:40 < bitmask> i broke my engine
2025-02-11T01:23:06 < bitmask> I didn't like it and started making changes and now I'm back to the point of not knowing when it will run again
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2025-02-11T03:34:15 < fenugrec> thank goodness for git revert
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2025-02-11T11:44:34 < qyx> so at $customer they asked if I know any good metal & sheet metal shop because all they tried did something wrong
2025-02-11T11:44:58 < qyx> so I gave them a recommendation for the one I am usually using, they always did everything correctly so far
2025-02-11T11:45:49 < qyx> today.. $customer's goods were delivered, all screwed up, bad bending, holes on the wrong side, etd.
2025-02-11T11:47:04 < Steffanx> lol whops
2025-02-11T11:49:21 < qyx> I should outsource to zyp
2025-02-11T11:49:36 < qyx> unrelated, where is he gone
2025-02-11T11:49:47 < karlp> travelling back from holidays I suspect
2025-02-11T11:50:07 < karlp> https://store.zyp.no/page/vacation-closure
2025-02-11T11:50:20 < karlp> TIL that puts adds a newline.
2025-02-11T11:50:50 < qyx> oh vacation
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2025-02-11T12:35:21 < jpa-> qyx: maybe they have bad drawings?
2025-02-11T12:49:10 < machinehum> I wonder if zyp also uses shopify
2025-02-11T12:49:13 < machinehum> Or made his own
2025-02-11T12:49:39 < jpa-> i think it is custom
2025-02-11T12:49:51 < machinehum> Cray
2025-02-11T12:49:53 < Steffanx> Made his own. He used some GraphQL magic
2025-02-11T12:50:27 < Steffanx> And i recall Angular
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2025-02-11T13:37:03 < qyx> I can see it is html!
2025-02-11T13:37:24 < qyx> jpa-: yeah I haven't seen them, I'll check
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2025-02-11T14:30:53 < zyp> sup sup
2025-02-11T14:31:08 < zyp> machinehum, I run saleor on the backend, with a custom frontend
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2025-02-11T17:05:54 < nohit> has anyone done DALI ?
2025-02-11T17:06:10 < qyx> nodali
2025-02-11T17:06:11 < nohit> can i use uart for it ?
2025-02-11T17:07:06 < qyx> being a 15 second google expert I would say it is manchester encoded
2025-02-11T17:07:21 < qyx> and indeed using uart frames
2025-02-11T17:07:31 < qyx> but I am not sure stm32 uart supports manchester encoding
2025-02-11T17:08:00 < qyx> if not, you could simulate it transmitting 20 bits over SPI but idk how would you receive it
2025-02-11T17:14:17 < nohit> i need to design a test adapter board that has DALI (also provides DALI bus proves) and and RS-485, with some additional relays and i/o, and connect to a PC with usb-serial
2025-02-11T17:14:58 < nohit> hanvent done either of those before
2025-02-11T17:15:40 < nohit> i wonder if i can power the whole thing from the usb port or should i have additional power input
2025-02-11T17:16:03 < nohit> it would be handier with only usb port
2025-02-11T17:16:20 < nohit> *power
2025-02-11T17:20:17 < nohit> any advice much appreciated
2025-02-11T17:24:46 < qyx> also related to $work https://xkcd.com/3048/
2025-02-11T17:25:31 < qyx> nohit: usb power should be enough, it depends on your exact use case
2025-02-11T17:29:35 < Steffanx> Does qyx have an obsession for bridges now? Or is more looking at bridges than he used to?
2025-02-11T17:30:43 < jbo> qyx, is polybridge #1 worldwide
2025-02-11T17:31:21 < qyx> steff probably missed what qyx is doing since 2019
2025-02-11T17:31:53 < Steffanx> No, i have not
2025-02-11T17:32:24 < jbo> maybe you did
2025-02-11T17:32:46 < Steffanx> I worked for a company doing license plate recognition a decade ago. And even years after working there i looked at license plates differently. They were more visible. I wonder if you have that with bridges now. :P
2025-02-11T17:33:08 < Steffanx> They are there, you "see" them every day, but suddenly you actually notice them.
2025-02-11T17:33:20 < qyx> oh yeah
2025-02-11T17:33:37 < qyx> I did wireless networking 2004-2009, I was seeing antennas everywhere
2025-02-11T17:34:00 < Steffanx> Explains why jbo seens dongs everywhere. 
2025-02-11T17:36:40 < jbo> lol
2025-02-11T17:40:16 < Steffanx> <3
2025-02-11T17:41:31 < jbo> jpa- <3
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2025-02-11T17:42:25 < Steffanx> jpa- is back alive?
2025-02-11T18:06:02 < karlp> fecking out of ram on esp32 damn dynamic careless shit programming :|
2025-02-11T18:13:08 < qyx> reallocating like crazy?
2025-02-11T18:14:03 < qyx> I refused a "linux admin" job today (huh what), now the HR girl is asking "thanks, what do you do then?"
2025-02-11T18:14:12 < qyx> what should I respond?
2025-02-11T18:17:36 < karlp> no, just everythign going "we'll jsut have 4k for this buffer here..." and I'm trying to use dual mode bt as well, which is significantly heavier apaprently anyway.
2025-02-11T18:18:00 < karlp> going to go see what can easily be turned off or made static :|
2025-02-11T18:18:07 < karlp> so much for getting cool functions working.
2025-02-11T18:18:12 < karlp> gotta unwrrap all the prior shits
2025-02-11T18:20:08 < qyx> canonical hiring, what the hell are they thinking I am
2025-02-11T18:20:12 < qyx> which esp32 karlp 
2025-02-11T18:21:26 < karlp> classic.
2025-02-11T18:59:40 < qyx> hm I wanted to do a bluetooth proxy with that
2025-02-11T19:00:00 < karlp> meaning what?
2025-02-11T19:00:04 < qyx> but they are saying hey, beware, here be dragons, do not enable anything else otherwise intermittend failures occur
2025-02-11T19:00:18 < qyx> because of meory management issues
2025-02-11T19:00:23 < karlp> no, what'ðs a bt proxy
2025-02-11T19:00:53 < qyx> esphome thing, extending bt range using wifi/ethernet
2025-02-11T19:01:01 < qyx> basically a bt "ap" connected over wifi/eth
2025-02-11T19:01:39 < qyx> sorry yeah I should have mentioned esphome bt proxy
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2025-02-11T20:27:56 < fenugrec> is the builtin analog vref of e.g. 32F07x more better than using an uncalibrated VDDA rail from a plain regulator like lm317, xc6206 etc ? seems like it's just the same type of bandgap ref with similar ppm/C drift but the internal vref would benefit from being fed from an already-regulated rail. In other words: the internal vref + cal constant allows to estimate the actual VDDA; am I better off
2025-02-11T20:27:58 < fenugrec> using that calculation, or just use VDD=VDDA=3.3v and move on
2025-02-11T20:28:33 < jpa-> doesn't the datasheet spec?
2025-02-11T20:29:09 < jpa-> but it also depends on what you measure, if you are measuring ratiometric sensors (like NTC resistors or something) that is fed from VDDA, the error will cancel out
2025-02-11T20:30:51 < jpa-> LM317 is such a crap regulator though that it varies a lot by load
2025-02-11T20:31:29 < jpa-> on some devices the internal reference also has factory calibration info available
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2025-02-11T20:41:58 < fenugrec> yea f070 has factory cal constant
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2025-02-11T20:44:22 < qyx> lm317? what year is it?
2025-02-11T20:44:52 < fenugrec> hey, old stock. Not going to throw them out just because they're not fashioniable
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2025-02-12T09:38:09 < qyx> TIL Aachen is in germany
2025-02-12T09:38:30 < qyx> I have always though it is in stefland
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2025-02-12T10:14:54 < jpa-> qyx: almost, it's at the border
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2025-02-12T10:42:46 < qyx> hm jlcnc is pretty expensive, a local shop has similar prices
2025-02-12T10:43:21 < qyx> and I don't have to pay shipping
2025-02-12T10:52:59 < qyx> oh and they don't manufacture weapons, can a conveyor belt roller adapter be considered a weapon?
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2025-02-12T11:35:40 < Steffanx> Isn't everything you worked on dangerous qyx?
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2025-02-12T16:16:01 < jbo> hello
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2025-02-12T16:27:51 < Steffanx> Hello
2025-02-12T16:33:35 < jbo> hello welcome?
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2025-02-12T16:40:42 < qyx> Steffanx: heh
2025-02-12T16:41:14 < Steffanx> I have room, jbo
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2025-02-12T16:51:39 < jbo> :)
2025-02-12T16:54:18 < Steffanx> Not today bitmask 
2025-02-12T16:55:43 < bitmask> not you too
2025-02-12T16:56:53 < jbo> we are one
2025-02-12T16:59:57 < qyx> you are two
2025-02-12T17:00:14 < qyx> so I ordered those two kawaii inclination sensors for 150e
2025-02-12T17:01:42 < jbo> are you inclined to return them?
2025-02-12T17:14:18 < qyx> I am inclined to believe they are not going to send them today
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2025-02-12T17:37:46 < jbo> https://blog.codeberg.org/we-stay-strong-against-hate-and-hatred.html
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2025-02-12T17:44:34 < qyx> oh yeah I received some ni**er balls emails from them today
2025-02-12T17:44:36 < qyx> was wondering
2025-02-12T17:45:00 < jbo> jup
2025-02-12T17:45:05 < qyx> an hour ago a Apology from Codeberg e.V. in response to notification spam was received
2025-02-12T17:45:26 < Steffanx> Quality dongs-grade troll 😋
2025-02-12T17:45:31 < specing> same
2025-02-12T17:47:24 < BrainDamage> same here wrt spam, not sure if I'm more annoyed by the spam, or even additional spam by the pointless apology
2025-02-12T17:48:46 < qyx> but you are living on the interwebs a couple of decades and you are not butthurt
2025-02-12T17:49:16 < qyx> I can imagine a 20y old developer feels some sadness and needs apology
2025-02-12T17:50:18 < BrainDamage> it's probably more about brand image than real apology
2025-02-12T17:50:59 < qyx> and about 20x longer than needed
2025-02-12T17:51:22 < Steffanx> I didn't even know what codeberg was lol
2025-02-12T17:51:42 < qyx> I registered when the forgejo drama was ongoing
2025-02-12T17:51:56 < jbo> same
2025-02-12T17:52:33 < BrainDamage> I don't even remember why, I think it was for some bug reportss
2025-02-12T18:07:35 < qyx> hm can I cap a glass tube with.. something?
2025-02-12T18:07:37 < qyx> a flame maybe?
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2025-02-12T19:57:40 < karlp> fucking burnt by flatpak again
2025-02-12T19:57:48 < karlp> have a cmake shit that runs a lua script.
2025-02-12T19:57:57 < karlp> cant' find lua when building in vscode.
2025-02-12T19:58:07 < karlp> open up the "terminal"
2025-02-12T19:58:32 < karlp> and tthe fucking $PAHT is this fucking "/app/bin:/app/bin:/app/bin:/usr/bin:/home/karlp/.var/app/com.visualstudio.code/data/node_modules/bin" bullshit
2025-02-12T19:59:02 < karlp> amnd thjat /usr/bin is _not_ my actual one...
2025-02-12T20:01:13 < jbo> karlp, are you using the FindLua script?
2025-02-12T20:01:18 < jbo> i.e. find_package(Lua)
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2025-02-12T21:03:26 < karlp> no, and it wouldn't matter, there's no lua in the virtual runtime 
2025-02-12T21:03:46 < karlp> don't even and say "you're holding cmake wrong"
2025-02-12T21:08:08 < jbo> how are you getting the lua binary? find_program()?
2025-02-12T21:08:22 < karlp> it _is not a fucking cmake problem_
2025-02-12T21:08:38 < karlp> if you run the terminal inisde vscode it DOES NOT HAVE LUA at all.
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2025-02-12T21:16:10 < jbo> aah
2025-02-12T21:16:11 < jbo> sorry
2025-02-12T21:28:52 < Steffanx> you`re forgiven jbo 
2025-02-12T21:29:06 < jbo> thank you
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2025-02-12T21:56:45 < karlp> (find_package(Lua) doesn't work to find the binary anyway, and it fails finding the installed libs too, but that's beside the point really)
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2025-02-12T23:10:24 < qyx> 19:03 < karlp> don't even and say "you're holding cmake wrong"
2025-02-12T23:10:26 < qyx> lold
2025-02-12T23:32:04 < karlp> in other news, esp32 porting is awesome.
2025-02-12T23:32:48 < karlp> I just ported work app from esp32 to esp32s3, on a different board, and just changed the pin numbers.  no af remap, no what pins are allowed, just wired in shit and said "plz put the uart there now thanks"
2025-02-12T23:43:04 < Steffanx> We have got ourself an esp32 fanboi now?
2025-02-12T23:44:15 < qyx> ohno
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2025-02-13T03:18:23 < bitmask> vacations go by too fast
2025-02-13T03:18:35 < bitmask> vacation isnt the right word
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2025-02-13T11:10:24 < karlp> Steffanx: I like a lot of it, it has warts like anything else, 
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2025-02-13T11:30:27 < ventyl> are they migrating to RISC-V their entire lineup?
2025-02-13T11:38:00 < karlp> pretty sure that's been on the record from them for a year or two now, formally.
2025-02-13T11:45:11 < ventyl> that's a good thing actually
2025-02-13T11:45:46 < karlp> pretty transparent for me really, 
2025-02-13T11:46:11 < karlp> xtensa vs rsciv makes ~zero difference to my usse of it.
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2025-02-13T15:10:03 < karlp> man "man string_copying" is fun.  quite more strongly opinionated and useful than a classic man page :)
2025-02-13T15:10:34 < karlp> "vacation isnt the right word es, and have a long history of misuse"
2025-02-13T15:10:43 < karlp> "The return value is useless"
2025-02-13T15:11:16 < karlp> "This function is not provided by any library; see EXAMPLES for a reference implementation."
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2025-02-13T15:54:06 < karlp> hrm, my local branch is at +90 commits form master.
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2025-02-13T16:24:18 < jbo> moin
2025-02-13T16:24:30 < karlp> hrm, btle pros, if I have a characteristic, which has the client config bits, like, "is notify enabled" or not, isn't that sometehing that needs to be _per connection_ not shared for the characteristic?
2025-02-13T16:27:35 < karlp> I can't see how the esp-idf shits let you keep that separately per conneciton
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2025-02-13T16:36:34 < drew> hello all. I am working with the stm32573I-DK development kit and it looks like HAL_Delay() is not working. I think it's because the clocks aren't set up correctly. I see that CubeMX generates main.c with SystemClock_Config() in it in some of the examples, but I can not get CubeMX to generate main.c with that function, so I think I have it disabled somewhere
2025-02-13T16:36:59 < drew> What category would I enable to get that function generated? I enabled RCC but it seems like that wasn't it
2025-02-13T16:37:05 < specing> karlp: happens to the best of us
2025-02-13T16:37:47 < drew> or rather, I see it on the Secure side but not the NonSecure side, actually
2025-02-13T16:38:17 < drew> maybe I'm looking at the wrong stuff
2025-02-13T17:01:56 < zyp> karlp, hmm, I'm not sure I've even worked with a device allowing more than connection at a time
2025-02-13T17:02:05 < zyp> (not counting controllers)
2025-02-13T17:09:19 < jpa-> karlp: it seems at least the callbacks get the "conn_handle" which you could use to distinguish
2025-02-13T17:11:41 < jpa-> karlp: is the esp-idf you are using the nimble based stuff or is there some legacy thing?
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2025-02-13T17:54:08 < karlp> no, using bluedroid, as I need dualstack.
2025-02-13T17:54:18 < karlp> zyp: get with the modern era then ;)
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2025-02-13T18:45:13  * qyx singing twinkle twinkle little star all day
2025-02-13T19:18:21 < Steffanx> The joy
2025-02-13T19:31:59 < qyx> yesterday I found a metal version, I played it for the kids
2025-02-13T19:32:06 < qyx> you won't like it though
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2025-02-13T20:53:11 < Steffanx> im sure of it qyx :D
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2025-02-13T22:04:50 < fenugrec> is it a version with nyango star on drums
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2025-02-13T23:10:17 < qyx> no leo moracchiolli
2025-02-13T23:11:24 < qyx> does nyango star has it too?
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2025-02-13T23:40:43 < upgrdman> TIL what the typical european c++ developer looks like     https://youtu.be/7zfROx6KWAI?si=WGePUL5EepaJGCSl&t=37
2025-02-13T23:42:07 < qyx> looks normal
2025-02-13T23:42:14 < qyx> oh ok
2025-02-13T23:42:17 < qyx> clicked play
2025-02-13T23:42:23 < upgrdman> lol
2025-02-13T23:45:36 < Steffanx> Lol time no see Mr upgrdman 
2025-02-13T23:45:53 < Steffanx> And then you make a return with such wonderful video. Thanks
2025-02-13T23:46:11 < Steffanx> Blaxter has gone missing too .. 
2025-02-13T23:46:34 < upgrdman> feels good to be back
2025-02-13T23:48:40 < upgrdman> unrelated, i bough samsung's s25 ultra. damn, smartphone cameras have gotten really good. even at night.
2025-02-13T23:48:58 < Steffanx> Have you take a picture of the moon yet?
2025-02-13T23:49:08 < upgrdman> lol, not yet
2025-02-13T23:49:56 < upgrdman> but i went on a night hike at ~9pm. i could zoom to 50x and the photo was amazingly good. at 100x it got pixelated, but stil decent.
2025-02-13T23:50:16 < upgrdman> and 200MP photos in daytime are amazeballs
2025-02-13T23:51:37 < upgrdman> note 5 duos was good. note 10 plus was great. s25 ultra makes me think i'll never buy a DSLR/mirrorless
2025-02-13T23:54:59 < Steffanx> Next: phone camera?? I just AI my holiday pics
2025-02-13T23:57:34 < upgrdman> lol
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2025-02-14T00:12:35 < ventyl> ;9~
2025-02-14T00:18:29 < jbo> hello
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2025-02-14T01:08:11 < upgrdman> Steffanx, another one for you to enjoy: https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1i9legn/tropical_bird_giving_a_colonoscopy/
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2025-02-14T02:36:23 < jbo> why does my shit not work
2025-02-14T02:41:02 < upgrdman> because you fucked it up
2025-02-14T02:49:59 < jbo> how do I unfuck?
2025-02-14T02:59:19 < upgrdman> learn how to use GDB?
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2025-02-14T11:49:39 < karlp> jbo: you probbaly used the wrong style of cmake ;)
2025-02-14T11:51:10 < drew> does anyone here use vscode with clang-tidy for their stm project? I can't configure it for linting properly because the build directory changes based on the target, so idk what to put for Build Path
2025-02-14T11:53:57 < jpa-> you mean with stm32cube or something? or what is changing the build path?
2025-02-14T12:01:06 < drew> we are generating code using cubemx and CMakeLists.txt looks like this: https://bpa.st/OQ6Q and mx-generated looks like this: https://bpa.st/FJGA
2025-02-14T12:02:56 < drew> so if I am working on Secure/Core/Src/main.c, for example, clang-tidy needs to look in the Secure dir for definitions and stuff, but if I'm working on NonSecure/Core/Src/main.c, it needs to look in NonSecure
2025-02-14T12:03:12 < drew> but I don't think clang-tidy is smart enough to figure that out from the cmake files
2025-02-14T12:04:04 < drew> so I have ./build/Secure/build/compile_commands.json and ./build/NonSecure/build/compile_commands.json and there's no way to tell clang-tidy which to use when linting files
2025-02-14T12:04:27 < drew> my explanation is a bit bad but hopefully I got my problem across
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2025-02-14T15:29:25 < ventyl> so. i went to teach students how to IoT
2025-02-14T15:29:35 < ventyl> not using ardweeno, because that sucks
2025-02-14T15:29:41 < ventyl> I went rp2040
2025-02-14T15:30:02 < ventyl> after 2 hours and 20 minutes, roughly one out of 20 was able to build and flash blinky into pico
2025-02-14T15:30:16 < ventyl> that one guy was the only one using mac, others were using windows
2025-02-14T15:30:53 < ventyl> and that was causing fucking tons of problems at every corner, some of which even contradict rules of how universe is supposed to work
2025-02-14T15:36:11 < jpa-> sounds pretty typical
2025-02-14T15:39:04 < ventyl> i've been aware of some kind of split brain bug in M$ filesystem that sometimes fucks it up if doing a lot of cmake
2025-02-14T15:39:37 < ventyl> but OneDrive puts this to entirely new level with almost 50% chance things will go brrr
2025-02-14T15:46:31 < Steffanx> You're doing it wrong 
2025-02-14T15:47:12 < Steffanx> Does this mean the development environment of RPI sucks arse?
2025-02-14T15:47:24 < Steffanx> *rp2040
2025-02-14T15:47:35 < ventyl> no, this was not a problem with pico-sdk && arm-none-eabi
2025-02-14T15:47:50 < ventyl> both work on my windows install which is sans of OneDrive 'n' shit
2025-02-14T15:49:50 < Steffanx> How's onedrive related to this? Or were they running shit from a onedrive drive?
2025-02-14T15:52:29 < mawk> that's your karmic retribution for not using stm32 ventyl 
2025-02-14T15:55:04 < ventyl> Steffanx: apparently, doing git submodule update --init --recursive created a spree of fopen() calls which made OneDrive daemon to puke, if ran on OneDrive-synced directory
2025-02-14T15:55:18 < ventyl> so git failed with "RPC failed" errors
2025-02-14T15:56:59 < mawk> even if you mark the directory as available offline ventyl ?
2025-02-14T15:57:00 < mawk> try that
2025-02-14T15:57:06 < mawk> it's in the right click menu
2025-02-14T15:58:26 < ventyl> I am rather inclined to tell them to install something like Virtual Box, ubuntu and do all shit inside VM
2025-02-14T15:58:41 < Steffanx> Heh
2025-02-14T15:59:19 < ventyl> mawk: IDK, it took me fair amount of time to realize that OneDrive is actually a problem
2025-02-14T15:59:37 < ventyl> and while I am not using it myself I don't know usual damage control procedures
2025-02-14T16:19:09 < drew> any tips for getting HAL_Delay() to work? In main() there's just a while with HAL_UART_Transmit(...) HAL_Delay(1000); but I get stuck there
2025-02-14T16:19:34 < drew> I see a lot of forum posts about setting the systick priority lower to ensure it doesn't get hung up, but this is in main(), so it shouldn't be getting blocked
2025-02-14T16:19:45 < drew> I tried setting the priority to 0 anyway just in case
2025-02-14T16:20:03 < drew> this is the stm32h573 if that is important
2025-02-14T16:21:15 < nohit> it should work out of the box
2025-02-14T16:21:42 < nohit> do you have the default clock setup in cubemx ? can you share a screenshot from that ?
2025-02-14T16:23:08 < nohit> and are you sure you get stuck in HAL_Delay(), did you check that with debugger ?
2025-02-14T16:23:41 < drew> not with a debugger, but if I remove HAL_Delay() and have just while(1) {HAL_UART_Transmit(...)} it prints over and over
2025-02-14T16:23:49 < nohit> ok
2025-02-14T16:24:18 < nohit> that's weird
2025-02-14T16:24:39 < nohit> i havent ever had an issue with HAL_Delay
2025-02-14T16:25:11 < drew> https://i.imgur.com/6D9FY8r.png this is RCC
2025-02-14T16:25:27 < ventyl> drew: by default, kuba configures HAL_Delay to use SysTick, are you hooking systick yourself?
2025-02-14T16:25:29 < drew> This is the clock config: https://i.imgur.com/GNjsGKp.png
2025-02-14T16:25:55 < ventyl> and/or altering its configuration
2025-02-14T16:26:15 < drew> I haven't done anything manual to systick. I see that the handler calls inc_systick or something which just increments an int in the stm32h5xx_hal.c
2025-02-14T16:27:03 < drew> really the only thing i've done is load the board config for this devkit, turn off most peripherals except for usar1/vcom, and then add those two lines to the while(1){} loop in main
2025-02-14T16:28:36 < drew> I can try to push this to a public repo to share if that would help
2025-02-14T16:29:43 < nohit> and timebase source in SYS is SysTick ?
2025-02-14T16:30:23 < ventyl> drew: my question goes specifically to modifications in source code done by you
2025-02-14T16:31:32 < drew> nohit: yes: https://i.imgur.com/YE75SRX.png
2025-02-14T16:32:06 < drew> ventyl: I'm at the very beginning of setting this board up, so there aren't really any changes. I am getting started and just trying to get serial out (and a delay function) working
2025-02-14T16:32:21 < drew> I can generate a diff that I am using on main.c
2025-02-14T16:32:38 < drew> I am thinking that the problem is more likely with my .ioc file
2025-02-14T16:32:42 < ventyl> could you, by an accident, disable SysTick interrupt?
2025-02-14T16:33:29 < ventyl> the only time I've had issue with HAL_Delay was when I messed with SysTick timer configuration while HAL was using it. As I really wanted to use SysTick, I reconfigured HAL to use different timer and everything is fine now.
2025-02-14T16:33:45 < nohit> maybe you can debug it to see what's going on, if youre using vscode+cmake, install cortex-debug extension, or just generate CubeIDE project and use that
2025-02-14T16:33:49 < ventyl> as a side-quest I also changed most of peripherals to use LL instead of HAL, so HAL_Delay is not even called now
2025-02-14T16:34:02 < drew> ventyl: sure, it's very possible
2025-02-14T16:35:14 < drew> I can try setting up cortex-debug
2025-02-14T16:36:18 < drew> when I tested earlier by just printing HAL_GetTick() over and over, it stayed at 0, and I could increase it manually with incTick, so I am thinking that there's some disconnect with pins or something where the interrupt is not actually being read from a pin
2025-02-14T16:37:39 < drew> ok it looks like I need to install the IDE to get the ST-LINK gdb
2025-02-14T16:37:54 < nohit> you can use openocd
2025-02-14T16:38:45 < nohit> here's basic launch.json that goes to .vscode/ https://bpa.st/WK3A
2025-02-14T16:38:46 < Steffanx> Does any interrupt work drew? Sometimes the cube does not configure the vector table correctly 
2025-02-14T16:39:20 < Steffanx> Especially fun when you fuck up something with the boot0 pin
2025-02-14T16:39:42 < drew> Steffanx: I can print out to UART/VCOM so there must be an interrupt working there, right?
2025-02-14T16:39:43 < nohit> yes the newer models can have bugs in cube -> hal generation
2025-02-14T16:39:58 < drew> or is there a simple example I could try?
2025-02-14T16:40:13 < Steffanx> Depends on the function you use drew. It might be the polling one
2025-02-14T16:42:29 < Steffanx> Print SCB->VTOR
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2025-02-14T17:05:39 < drew> ok I downloaded the IDE and set up debugging and I can see that when I call HAL_Delay, it gets to while ((HAL_GetTick() - tickstart) < wait){} and GetTick() just always returns 0 because nothing is incrementing the tick
2025-02-14T17:06:13 < drew> so then it's locked in that loop because nothing is incrementing the tick count
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2025-02-14T17:14:00 < drew> Steffanx: I printed SCB->VTOR and got 134217728
2025-02-14T17:21:43 < drew> which is 0x08000000, which is right, I think
2025-02-14T17:21:45 < ventyl> drew: SysTick_Handler should update the count, try placing a breakpoint there
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2025-02-14T17:25:00 < ventyl> there are two possible outcomes: 1) SysTick isn't called, then you have a problem in interrupt setup (bad vector table address, bad interrupt address, disabled interrupts) 2) SysTick_Handler is called, but it doesn't update tick counter, then kuba generated something wrong
2025-02-14T17:26:21 < drew> ventyl: I put a breakpoint and it never seems to get there
2025-02-14T17:26:29 < drew> so I am thinking outcome 1
2025-02-14T17:27:34 < ventyl> check if systick initialization is actually called
2025-02-14T17:27:57 < drew> I printed out SCB->VTOR and got 0x08000000 so I think the vector table address is good. How do I check for disabled interrupts or bad addresses?
2025-02-14T17:28:12 < drew> ventyl: that I know is called. I stepped through everything earlier and saw it walk through that func
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2025-02-14T17:29:56 < ventyl> drew: from the distance of the width of an average galaxy, the 0x0800000 address looks reasonable. vector table is the first thing in firmware and that address looks like a reasonable address where FLASH is mapped
2025-02-14T17:30:32 < ventyl> drew: you may check the linker script to see where FLASH region base address starts, it should be the same address.
2025-02-14T17:30:51 < ventyl> error here is unlikely, if it was misconfigured, you'd most probably got HardFault or something
2025-02-14T17:32:03 < ventyl> another possibility is that actual function wasn't picked up by the linker. for this try to dump the vector table in debugger and check if entry for SysTick contains an address that matches the address of SysTick_Handler
2025-02-14T17:34:13 < drew> this is the linker script for the 'nonsecure' project: https://bpa.st/RFNQ and this is the 'secure' project: https://bpa.st/SVDQ
2025-02-14T17:34:49 < drew> they say 0x8000000 is the actual start in a comment after each address, which are 0x8100000 and 0xc0000000
2025-02-14T17:34:55 < machinehum> How much beer is a lot of beer?
2025-02-14T17:35:02 < machinehum> My friend texted me like 
2025-02-14T17:35:13 < machinehum> "wooo we drank 2.5L of beer!"
2025-02-14T17:35:24 < machinehum> I'm like .... uhhh what per person?
2025-02-14T17:35:41 < ventyl> in what country?
2025-02-14T17:35:46 < drew> at 4-5% that's like 5 standard drinks
2025-02-14T17:35:57 < machinehum> Yeah exactly
2025-02-14T17:36:11 < machinehum> ventyl: They're in Georgia
2025-02-14T17:36:20 < ventyl> drew: well, that seems fishy. 'nonsecure' linker scripts marks FLASH starting at 0x0810000
2025-02-14T17:36:40 < machinehum> Where most adult men drink 3-4L of wine at a party
2025-02-14T17:37:16 < machinehum> I got a problem if I drink more than 4L of beer I get into pants pissing territory
2025-02-14T17:37:33 < ventyl> machinehum: Georgia as Gruzia, or Georgia as Georgia, US?
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2025-02-14T17:39:46 < machinehum> Gruzia
2025-02-14T17:39:57 < machinehum> Zero reason to go to Georgia, US
2025-02-14T17:39:58 < drew> it would be very unlikely that they're packaging a chip-specific linker script with first party support with the wrong address for flash, though, right?
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2025-02-14T17:40:22 < ventyl> drew: that script is most-probably generated, so errors are possible
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2025-02-14T17:41:26 < ventyl> machinehum: oh, that's like 5 bottles. one could do twice that amount with proper "training"
2025-02-14T17:41:39 < ventyl> I'd probably be dead mid second bottle
2025-02-14T17:42:19 < machinehum> I would be a sloppy mess but would likely be able to make it to 3
2025-02-14T17:42:34 < machinehum> 4, if I had enough poutine
2025-02-14T17:42:52 < Steffanx> Too bad .ch doesn't poutine
2025-02-14T17:43:05 < machinehum> .ch doesn't even have the cheese to make it
2025-02-14T17:43:07 < machinehum> We tried once
2025-02-14T17:43:17 < drew> I found this in the stm32h5xx doc: https://i.imgur.com/lSsltVz.png which makes it look like the 0x8000000 value is ok
2025-02-14T17:43:31 < ventyl> there was an era I were able to do something like 4.5l + 0.5l of Fernet, not die, wake up the next day and repeat the procedure. and avoid death again.
2025-02-14T17:44:49 < machinehum> I can currently drink 3-4L of beer, wake up the next morning at 5AM and do a 2000m day touring/mountain biking
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2025-02-14T17:45:08 < ventyl> drew: there's another question here. you have two linker scripts but only one of them is being used. is the right linker script being used WRT to TrustZone activation?
2025-02-14T17:45:41 < ventyl> machinehum: I am not jealous, not drinking 3-4l of beer makes me save a shitload of money
2025-02-14T17:46:24 < drew> yes, I can see that each linker script is placed accordingly and being used when building the appropriate project
2025-02-14T17:46:38 < drew> are there other prints I can try to check the addresses of the interrupts I'm looking for?
2025-02-14T17:47:14 < drew> or how do I double check that I haven't disabled something stupid in cubemx ? or is there somewhere in the source I can check
2025-02-14T17:47:18 < ventyl> you could dump the RAM at the SCB->VTOR and check if n-th item contains the address of SysTick_Handler
2025-02-14T17:47:38 < machinehum> "Being good at drinking isn't anything to brag about, sobriety and healthy living is."
2025-02-14T17:47:40 < machinehum> -jbo
2025-02-14T17:47:55 < ventyl> I don't live healthy
2025-02-14T17:48:01 < ventyl> I just don't drinkg alcohol
2025-02-14T17:48:25 < machinehum> lol it's one or the other, choose one, not both
2025-02-14T17:48:45 < ventyl> drew: as you are enabling TZ, were you successful with TZ disabled entirely?
2025-02-14T17:50:09 < jbo> bru
2025-02-14T17:50:32 < drew> is there a button in cubeide for dumping the ram? it should get stuck in that loop pretty quickly and then I can just read everything
2025-02-14T17:50:59 < drew> I'll try a project with TZ disabled also to check if that's the problem
2025-02-14T17:51:03 < ventyl> dumping random memory area is usually pretty hard to do in any debugger
2025-02-14T17:51:12 < machinehum> jbo: Good point, time for a bru
2025-02-14T17:51:40 < nohit> maybe set a breakpoint to HAL_Init() and step inside it, the systick is configured inside it
2025-02-14T17:51:49 < ventyl> drew: I'd start there as TrustZone adds yet another layer of complexity one has to be familiar with, that could cloak itself as a bug in kuba
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2025-02-14T18:05:19 < karlp> rad, my phone now hoas a "broadcast as auracast"
2025-02-14T18:05:24 < karlp> I love it.
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2025-02-14T18:11:55 < ventyl> I guess it is better than random applications switching their language into Catalan language
2025-02-14T18:12:10 < ventyl> and ignoring my preference of not Catalan
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2025-02-14T18:27:40 < drew> the trustzone disabled project won't print and stm32cubeide can't build it
2025-02-14T18:27:58 < drew> I'm going insane all I want to do is sleep() lol
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2025-02-14T18:30:49 < ventyl> OK, honestly, I haven't tried Cube with H5 yet. I have one Nucleo on my table, but no luck to check it yet
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2025-02-14T18:43:32 < drew> ok I was able to get a version of the project working with trustzone off
2025-02-14T18:44:36 < drew> opened cubemx, loaded the development board, pinout > clear pinout, turned usart1 and rcc on, added HAL_UART_Transmit(...) and HAL_Delay(1000), and it's working
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2025-02-14T18:58:05 < ventyl> fossilize it somewhere so you have an etalon you can observe
2025-02-14T18:58:20 < ventyl> the thing with trustzone is, that it overlays two system definitions over each other
2025-02-14T18:58:52 < ventyl> you have secure and non-secure set of registers and there (probably) is some switch which says which interrupt is served by which side of secure boundary
2025-02-14T18:59:33 < ventyl> I wouldn't be much surprised if this switch was configured wrong and your interrupt actually landed in the part which does not have SysTick configured to do meaningful work
2025-02-14T19:04:13 < drew> I can see that SystemClock_Config() is called in the main.c of the secure side but not the non-secure side. Should I have to initialize it twice? it looked like the handoff of the non-secure side suggested that the lcock would be accessible from the non-secure side
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2025-02-14T19:05:48 < ventyl> that's way out of my knowledge base right now
2025-02-14T19:06:18 < drew> alright, I will take a break from this for now
2025-02-14T19:06:23 < drew> thanks for all the help so far
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2025-02-14T19:21:36 < karlp> ventyl: it's not replaced the word broadcast with the word auracast, it's just now got auracast support, and it appears well integrated.
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2025-02-14T19:32:45 < ventyl> drew: I'd suggest reading Cortex-M33 programming manual. It contains some description of TrustZone and how it works. You may find some clues there.
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2025-02-14T21:47:41 < qyx> anyone ever used https://hp3dprint.eu/3d-materials-finishes-pricing/ ?
2025-02-14T22:08:42 < jpa-> i like hp mjf pa12, but haven't used that provider
2025-02-14T22:09:34 < qyx> which one did you use?
2025-02-14T22:10:35 < jpa-> 3dstep and jlcpcb
2025-02-14T22:11:23 < jpa-> jlcpcb is good enough for me considering how cheap it is
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2025-02-15T01:31:32 < qyx> BrainDamage: how to identify wire coating material, some sort of emission spectroscopy?
2025-02-15T01:32:20 < qyx> jpa-: I'll check 3dstep, thanks
2025-02-15T01:57:34 < mawk> qyx: using a lighter and your nose
2025-02-15T01:57:43 < mawk> plastics have their own scent when they burn
2025-02-15T02:04:03 < qyx> metal coating mawk 
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2025-02-15T09:41:20 < BrainDamage> if you can scrape off some portion, you can do things like chemical potential, hardness, resistivity, density and a few other params, but spectroscopy is likely the most accurate single test
2025-02-15T09:41:58 < BrainDamage> there's also mass spectrometry, but that requires expensive stuff
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2025-02-15T11:21:06 < qyx> I could ask guys from the analytics lab at uni
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2025-02-15T12:23:20 < BrainDamage> then gas chromatography / mass spectroscopy will yield to a pretty accurate result
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2025-02-15T15:29:29 < karlp> there's a cool pdf flowchart of identifying plastics somewhere...
2025-02-15T15:30:06 < karlp> https://www.stanmech.com/articles/plastics-identification-flow-chart
2025-02-15T15:30:29 < karlp> oh, misunderstood, the coating is metaal, not a coating of the metal.
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2025-02-15T17:01:36 < fenugrec> or just borrow an XRF from a geology lab
2025-02-15T17:03:39 < Steffanx> Dont you have a spare one fenugrec ?
2025-02-15T17:04:50 < fenugrec> sadly, no
2025-02-15T17:06:43 < fenugrec> I wonder how much the handheld ones cost. Probably 10-20k easy
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2025-02-16T08:18:57 < qyx> You don't have permission to access "http://www.arrow.com/" on this server.
2025-02-16T08:19:00 < qyx> why?
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2025-02-16T10:42:49 < Steffanx> Worksonmymachine.pro
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2025-02-17T03:13:08 < qyx> what approach would you use for semaphore-wait on many interrupt flags? not count the obvious and silly one of making one semaphore per flag
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2025-02-17T07:00:10 < zyp> qyx, I'd try something fancy with coroutines :D
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2025-02-17T08:25:11 < jpa-> qyx: i would do condition variables
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2025-02-17T09:39:11 < qyx> I have neither in freertos
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2025-02-17T09:41:45 < jpa-> qyx: do you need multiple waiters or just one?
2025-02-17T09:42:31 < qyx> hm, just one
2025-02-17T09:42:51 < jpa-> xEventGroupSetBits() in freertos seems like it might be relevant but i haven't used it
2025-02-17T09:43:56 < jpa-> but for one waiter task notifications will work too
2025-02-17T09:44:18 < jpa-> https://www.freertos.org/Documentation/02-Kernel/02-Kernel-features/03-Direct-to-task-notifications/04-As-event-group
2025-02-17T09:44:46 < qyx> also I can see another issue there
2025-02-17T09:45:23 < qyx> let's say I have RXNE interrupt, so I signal the task somehow but before the interrupt ends and the task has any chance to run, the interrupt fires again
2025-02-17T09:45:32 < qyx> so I have to clear all flags directly in the interrupt
2025-02-17T09:45:40 < qyx> (RXNE is usually cleared by reading the DR)
2025-02-17T09:46:55 < jpa-> well, typically you'd have a FIFO for such received data etc; i don't see a point of setting a flag and then reading the data in a thread
2025-02-17T09:47:06 < jpa-> because that is just adding extra overhead on top of the existing interrupt mechanism
2025-02-17T09:47:42 < jpa-> especially as ARM has pre-emptive interrupts, there is little point deferring interrupt processing to a task unless you need to yield during the processing
2025-02-17T09:48:58 < qyx> ok, let's consider TC instead
2025-02-17T09:49:30 < jpa-> you'd set TCIE when you start the transfer and clear it in the interrupt handler
2025-02-17T09:50:02 < qyx> and if I want the task to wait until complete?
2025-02-17T09:50:21 < qyx> I mean I understand what you are saying
2025-02-17T09:50:32 < qyx> but with your approach I can't do stupid shortcuts
2025-02-17T09:50:43 < jpa-> you'd send a task notification to wake the task when the TCIE interrupt fires
2025-02-17T09:51:09 < jpa-> stupid shortcuts are cool, but which of them do you want to do? a longjump to a task from an interrupt handler? ;)
2025-02-17T09:52:11 < qyx> no I wanted to quickly make my i2c code use interrupts instead of busywait on TXIS/NACKF :P
2025-02-17T09:52:23 < ventyl> qyx: you definitely want to do the time-critical peripheral processing in the interrupt and only the rest, which is not time-critical in thread
2025-02-17T09:52:47 < qyx> that's not time critical, it is a quick hack
2025-02-17T09:52:58 < jpa-> well, nothing is stopping you from disabling the interrupt enables every time in the interrupt handler, posting a task notification and then re-enabling interrupts
2025-02-17T09:53:53 < jpa-> then you can just read the interrupt flags from the register and don't need separate notification bits
2025-02-17T09:55:43 < jpa-> void myFunnyIrq() { nvicDisableInterrupt(funny_irqn); xTaskNotifyFromISR(g_i2c_task); }    void busyWaitFlag(uint32_t flag) {  while (!(I2C->ISR & flag)) xTaskNotifyWait(); }
2025-02-17T09:56:15 < jpa-> and if you want it to work, remember to call nvicEnableInterrupt() after the peripheral interrupt is handled
2025-02-17T09:57:18 < jpa-> (might even make sense to only enable the specific interrupt flag before the loop in busyWaitFlag())
2025-02-17T10:01:16 < qyx> yeah works
2025-02-17T10:01:25 < qyx> enabling the specific interrupt in the peripheral CR config
2025-02-17T10:02:04 < jpa-> yeah, that should avoid the problem of some other interrupt flag deadlocking things
2025-02-17T10:03:28 < qyx> it is clearly ill but additionally it allows me to implement timeouts
2025-02-17T10:15:05 < qyx> so even this lame approach lowered the cpu usage to 30%
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2025-02-17T14:53:40 < zyp> > because that is just adding extra overhead on top of the existing interrupt mechanism
2025-02-17T14:53:54 < zyp> this is why I want to do fancy coro stuff
2025-02-17T14:55:07  * qyx has SAI MCLK running
2025-02-17T14:55:14 < zyp> task suspends awaiting an interrupt, ISR resumes coro directly, coro does whatever it needs to do in ISR context and suspends again, ether to await another interrupt or to get scheduled back in task context
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2025-02-17T14:56:16 < qyx> sounds like some nasty SP manipulation
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2025-02-17T14:56:52 < zyp> coroutines are stackless
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2025-02-17T15:03:49 < qyx> but the interrupt needs to do $stuff to resume a coroutine
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2025-02-17T15:04:30 < qyx> idk I know nothing about coroutines
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2025-02-17T16:53:25 < jbo> hi
2025-02-17T16:53:29 < jbo> I'm looking for a 4 channel thermocouple meter/logger. any recommendations?
2025-02-17T16:53:39 < jbo> I'm currently looking at sefram 9816b
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2025-02-17T17:09:53 < englishman> https://www.picotech.com/data-logger/tc-08/thermocouple-data-logger
2025-02-17T17:10:55 < englishman> sefram looks fine
2025-02-17T17:11:27 < englishman> no price on the website, are you sure you can buy it
2025-02-17T17:11:50 < jbo> I want one that also has a display
2025-02-17T17:12:13 < jbo> I can get SEFRAM9816B for 325.- USD
2025-02-17T17:12:35 < englishman> good price
2025-02-17T17:12:48 < jbo> the 9814 would be 280.- USD
2025-02-17T17:13:00 < jbo> I don't care much for the bluetooth in the 9816B but it can do more thermocouple types
2025-02-17T17:13:24 < englishman> buy once cry once
2025-02-17T17:13:30 < jbo> :D
2025-02-17T17:14:51 < jbo> sefram sort of seems to be B&K precision
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2025-02-17T17:54:32 < Steffanx> Jadew has something. Or must have something by now
2025-02-17T18:07:24 < jbo> ordered a sefram 9816b. customer expenses.
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2025-02-17T18:17:45 < zyp> IIRC we had TC-08 at former work
2025-02-17T18:17:59 < qyx> jbo: ni cdaq
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2025-02-17T18:49:39 < qyx> pros, hjalp
2025-02-17T18:50:02 < qyx> I have done nearly everything to check, I enabled SAI interrupt, added sai_isr handler
2025-02-17T18:50:14 < qyx> VTOR is ok, vector in the table is ok
2025-02-17T18:50:28 < qyx> IPSR points to the correct exception number
2025-02-17T18:51:04 < qyx> evarything seems to be ok and despite all this, the code ends in while () blocking_handler, which is totally unrelated
2025-02-17T18:51:05 < jpa-> yeah, in ex workplace we also use ni usb daqs for thermocouples; but then you are stuck with the ni software
2025-02-17T18:51:34 < qyx> there is python framework for that too, also c# or what exactly was it
2025-02-17T18:51:51 < qyx> what esle should I check?
2025-02-17T18:52:09 < zyp> qyx, what's IPSR when you get to blocking handler?
2025-02-17T18:52:12 < qyx> pc             0x801c272           0x801c272 <blocking_handler>
2025-02-17T18:52:12 < qyx> xpsr           0x4100005c          1090519132
2025-02-17T18:52:23 < qyx> (stm32g491, SAI)
2025-02-17T18:52:42 < qyx> they say position=76 which is 92*4 offset
2025-02-17T18:53:00 < qyx> RM says the same
2025-02-17T18:53:04 < zyp> x/wx 0x170
2025-02-17T18:53:27 < qyx> (gdb) p/x *(0x8010100 + 0x170)
2025-02-17T18:53:27 < qyx> $15 = 0x8010369
2025-02-17T18:53:48 < qyx> (gdb) x/wx 0x8010100 + 0x170
2025-02-17T18:53:48 < qyx> 0x8010270 <vector_table+368>:   0x08010369
2025-02-17T18:54:08 < qyx> (gdb) p/x &sai_isr
2025-02-17T18:54:09 < qyx> $16 = 0x8010368
2025-02-17T18:54:12 < qyx> but, instead
2025-02-17T18:54:21 < qyx> (gdb) p/x &blocking_handler
2025-02-17T18:54:22 < qyx> $17 = 0x801c272
2025-02-17T18:55:37 < zyp> enable DWT exception tracing and check WTF is going on
2025-02-17T18:55:45 < qyx> (gdb) p/x SCB_VTOR
2025-02-17T18:55:46 < qyx> $18 = 0x8010100
2025-02-17T18:56:20 < qyx> everything other works, just SAI is problematic
2025-02-17T18:56:27 < jpa-> just to confirm, no fault bits are set in SCB->CFSR? (not that it would be that PSR value then..)
2025-02-17T18:56:59 < zyp> also, disassemble sai_isr
2025-02-17T18:57:07 < qyx> (gdb) p/x SCB_CFSR
2025-02-17T18:57:07 < qyx> $19 = 0x0
2025-02-17T18:57:10 < zyp> check that it's not just a jump to blocking handler
2025-02-17T18:57:35 < jpa-> could also breapoint at sai_isr
2025-02-17T18:57:41 < zyp> yup
2025-02-17T18:58:17 < qyx> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/iBiiY
2025-02-17T18:58:26 < jpa-> i usually end in weird functions when i forget to return from a non-void function :)
2025-02-17T18:58:27 < qyx> I replaced the call with while(1)
2025-02-17T18:58:41 < qyx> breakpoint is not hit, I tried that
2025-02-17T18:59:09 < qyx> it all looks like as if a different vector was executed, but IPSR contains the correct one
2025-02-17T18:59:11 < zyp> hmm, I wonder
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2025-02-17T19:00:07 < jpa-> does "disas sai_isr" in gdb give same code? just to verify you are not flashing wrong file or something :)
2025-02-17T19:00:08 < zyp> I have a suspicion of what's going wrong, let me check with docs
2025-02-17T19:00:30 < jpa-> hmm, i wonder what the vector table alignment requirement is
2025-02-17T19:00:34 < zyp> exactly
2025-02-17T19:00:59 < zyp> > For more interrupts, adjust the alignment by rounding up to the next power of two. For example, if you require 21 interrupts, the alignment must be on a 64-word boundary because the required table size is 37 words, and the next power of two is 64.
2025-02-17T19:01:39 < zyp> so if there's more than 64 vectors in the chip, you're violating the alignment requirement
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2025-02-17T19:01:50 < jpa-> 0x170 is clearly more than 0x100 :)
2025-02-17T19:01:57 < zyp> :)
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2025-02-17T19:26:49 < ventyl> vector table alignment?
2025-02-17T19:34:30 < jpa-> NVIC doesn't use an adder for forming the vector address, it just takes first N bits from nvic->vtor and combines that with the vector number
2025-02-17T19:34:55 < jpa-> so if your vector table is not aligned to the correct multiple, it fetches wrong vector
2025-02-17T19:36:44 < qyx> this is fuking ridicukous
2025-02-17T19:36:56 < qyx> so it is executing 0x70 instead
2025-02-17T19:37:20 < qyx> making some food atm but I'll check later
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2025-02-17T19:50:04 < ventyl> ok, that doesn't feel unfamiliar, that's also how MPU works, so MPU regions also have to be MPU region size-aligned
2025-02-17T20:04:46 < qyx> never ever encountered this in my whole life
2025-02-17T20:04:57 < qyx> usually the vector table is at its default position
2025-02-17T20:05:25 < qyx> and the only reason to move it further away is when you boot from a bootloader
2025-02-17T20:06:06 < qyx> but the bootloader size is is usually aligned at 8k, 16k or so
2025-02-17T20:06:49 < qyx> but qyx must invent sketchy things all the time
2025-02-17T20:12:43 < Steffanx> It is known
2025-02-17T20:17:59 < jpa-> rp2xxx dma also wants ring buffers aligned, otherwise you'll get fun random writes all over the ram
2025-02-17T20:18:00 < ventyl> I wonder if drew had the same problem
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2025-02-17T20:36:52 < qyx> Steffanx: what, sketchy things?
2025-02-17T20:37:55 < Steffanx> Yes 😝
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2025-02-18T02:49:19 < qyx> regarding the VTOR offset, I wrote the bootloader sanely enough to not actually care so hopefully I don't need to change anything
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2025-02-18T03:03:00 < qyx> zyp: I owe you a beer
2025-02-18T03:03:03 < qyx> at least
2025-02-18T03:03:21 < qyx> to jpa- too
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2025-02-18T04:14:51 < qyx> finally got the SAI working
2025-02-18T04:14:57 < qyx> now I need to configure the codec
2025-02-18T04:15:25 < qyx> but it is pi o'clock
2025-02-18T04:15:30 < qyx> time to sleep
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2025-02-18T12:20:35 < karlp> meh, esp hardcodes usb-if assigned vendor ids into the device information service: https://github.com/espressif/esp-idf/blob/master/components/esp_hid/src/ble_hidd.c#L228
2025-02-18T12:25:43 < qyx> speaking of ble, I need bluetooth2 edr modules
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2025-02-18T13:44:39 < karlp> that's not speaking of ble ;)
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2025-02-18T14:08:06 < ventyl> bleah
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2025-02-18T20:23:22 < Steffanx> Welcome.
2025-02-18T20:32:57 < zyp> thanks
2025-02-18T20:45:18 < jbo> y2
2025-02-18T20:50:14 < Steffanx> thanks
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2025-02-18T21:03:07 < jbo> I figured out why shit wasn't working as well as it could
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2025-02-18T21:05:29 < Steffanx> You forgot to be nice?
2025-02-18T21:07:15 < jbo> nah
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2025-02-18T22:39:19 < Steffanx> Which STM32 expert can explain to me what the difference is between table 122 and 123 in RM0433? https://www.st.com/resource/en/reference_manual/rm0433-stm32h742-stm32h743753-and-stm32h750-value-line-advanced-armbased-32bit-mcus-stmicroelectronics.pdf page 694
2025-02-18T22:39:25 < Steffanx> Except for the table number.
2025-02-18T22:41:56 < qyx> will you post a picture for the poor internet souls?
2025-02-18T22:42:49 < qyx> I don't have RM0433 downloaded, I need to bring it home on floppies
2025-02-18T22:44:21 < Steffanx> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YOPdXX22/image.png
2025-02-18T22:44:31 < Steffanx> Cant make it all fit without you not being able to read it :P
2025-02-18T22:45:30 < Steffanx> It seems ST is wasting some of your valuable bits and bytes qyx
2025-02-18T22:49:32 < qyx> can't see anything in particular, there's also only one table in other RMs
2025-02-18T22:50:19 < Steffanx> me neither and i just concluded ST managed to duplicate a table somehow
2025-02-18T22:50:23 < Steffanx> Such quality review
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2025-02-19T12:52:45 < karlp> cool new error: error: iteration 512 invokes undefined behavior [-Werror=aggressive-loop-optimizations]
2025-02-19T12:52:50 < karlp> never seen that one before :)
2025-02-19T13:12:39 < ventyl> GCC has variable range check now, so it is possible that in iteration 512 something different happens that yields in UB?
2025-02-19T13:13:06 < ventyl> s/now/since version 10/
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2025-02-19T13:24:15 < karlp> yeah, it's correct, we'd overflowed a range, there was a static assert on size checks that had already failed, but gcc kept going for wathever reason.
2025-02-19T13:24:28 < karlp> fixing the size checks that fixed the static assert stopped it going out of range.
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2025-02-19T14:58:44 < karlp> also, creating hid report descriptors is gross as fuck.
2025-02-19T14:58:51 < karlp> there's parsers, 
2025-02-19T14:58:56 < karlp> not much in the way of validators,
2025-02-19T14:59:09 < karlp> and there's waratah, which is a .net app, that runs the _help_ under mono, but not the app itself.
2025-02-19T15:04:41 < karlp> and dts. exe which is deprecated, windows only.
2025-02-19T15:04:43 < karlp> it's awesome.
2025-02-19T15:10:58 < jpa-> hey, there is always chatgpt
2025-02-19T15:11:49 < ventyl> i have fucking too many headers
2025-02-19T15:16:16 < fenugrec> karlp I know, it's as if USB-IF just gave up and sait "get bent, MS and apple are gonna what headers are valid anyway"
2025-02-19T15:16:29 < fenugrec> gonna *decide
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2025-02-19T16:04:52 < jbo> how's life?
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2025-02-19T16:11:54 < zyp> fenugrec, well, that's how it is
2025-02-19T16:12:34 < zyp> doesn't matter how much spec compliant your descriptors are if the hosts don't read it correctly
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2025-02-19T16:41:51 < jpa-> but it matters how incompliant they are even if some single version of windows happens to tolerate it
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2025-02-19T17:30:41 < Steffanx> Life is great. Life is wonderful jbo
2025-02-19T17:31:06 < jbo> I am happy to hear that!
2025-02-19T17:31:16 < Steffanx> We have jpa- !
2025-02-19T17:31:21 < jbo> <3
2025-02-19T17:31:21 < Steffanx> So.. 
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2025-02-19T17:42:20 < qyx> html BOM <4
2025-02-19T17:42:36 < qyx> I feel like I just discovered america
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2025-02-19T17:42:59 < jbo> the interactive html bom addon?
2025-02-19T17:43:05 < jbo> that's the only addon I use in kikecad
2025-02-19T17:43:16 < qyx> yeah
2025-02-19T17:45:53 < jbo> yeah that is nice for jbopcb assembly
2025-02-19T17:46:04 < Steffanx> Jlc fabrication addon is great too
2025-02-19T17:46:15 < Steffanx> And the layout duplicator addon
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2025-02-19T18:41:07 < jbo> after 10 minutes of wondering why stuff is slow, I figured out that my CPU frequency was locked to 1.5 GHz .__.
2025-02-19T18:53:39 < Steffanx> Why would you do such thing?
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2025-02-19T23:30:08 < karlp> oven advertised for sale here, ad mentions it has an app for "even more control" then a footnote taht the app isn't avbilable in the icelandic play store or apple store.
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2025-02-20T00:01:57 < Steffanx> I can control it for you karlp. No worries.
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2025-02-20T00:07:53 < karlp> it's ok, I don't think I'm paying the miele premium anyway :)
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2025-02-20T00:15:51 < Steffanx> What's the reason it's not in the icelandic app stores? Some privacy regulations?
2025-02-20T00:24:52 < karlp> more likely just the manufacturer didn't get around to it?
2025-02-20T00:25:00 < karlp> we don't have any special regs
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2025-02-20T13:07:21 < karlp> ffs, I must have a soldering issue on an LGA pad on my esp32 board.
2025-02-20T13:07:39 < karlp> worked at home, couldn' for the life of me figure out what was wrong on a "same" baord at work (jlc assembly) 
2025-02-20T13:07:48 < karlp> switched to some different pins and it works all of a sudden.
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2025-02-20T17:27:48 < drew> I'm back with more timer problems, but they are hopefully different this time. I setup threadx with a single looping thread on both cores of the device, but only one core seems to be able to schedule its threads. I used the stm32IDE debugger and I see that the other thread is just stuck at __tx_wait_here waiting for PendSV to take place
2025-02-20T17:28:02 < drew> which I think is the SysTick interrupt, right?
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2025-02-20T17:57:29 < fenugrec> drew pendSV != systick
2025-02-20T17:57:41 < fenugrec> different vectors. That said, can't really help you with the rest of your issues
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2025-02-20T17:58:29 < qyx> I am probably not mistaken much if I say you could be the first one in the history of ##stm32 to use threadx
2025-02-20T18:01:08 < drew> really? lol
2025-02-20T18:01:20 < drew> threads are good though
2025-02-20T18:01:22 < drew> I think
2025-02-20T18:01:59 < qyx> *threadX*
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2025-02-20T18:09:44 < drew> is there a better way to do threads in rtos
2025-02-20T18:36:40 < fenugrec> threadx is (was ?) microsof, freertos is amazon... nothing is sacred
2025-02-20T18:59:36 < Steffanx> Was.
2025-02-20T19:00:22 < Steffanx> It's open soresed and something Eclipse Foundation now
2025-02-20T19:00:50 < qyx> ms not satisfied?
2025-02-20T19:02:54 < fenugrec> Steffanx hm, I thought MS still retained ownership or something. Not really following though
2025-02-20T19:03:25 < Steffanx> It's even MIT now
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2025-02-20T19:42:05 < zyp> karlp, geographic play store restrictions are so silly
2025-02-20T19:42:37 < zyp> and easy to get around, so all it really does is add hassle
2025-02-20T19:48:14 < zyp> every time I go to Japan I run into needing some Japan-only apps
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2025-02-20T19:49:32 < zyp> so I dig up the apk from some shitty third party mirror and install it, and it's all good until it requires an update to work
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2025-02-20T22:24:45 < karlp> zyp: yeah, I had the same thing with apps in newzealand.
2025-02-20T22:24:48 < karlp> so tedious though
2025-02-20T22:38:28 < zyp> used to be same shit with android auto in norway before too
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2025-02-20T22:42:23 < karlp> well, I reallllly need to sit down and figure out the last piece of docker on qnap juggling to get nextcloud up again, but... fuck me, I just wear out on tech at work these days.
2025-02-20T22:42:42 < karlp> but I did have my "keyboard" typing to both an ipad and android today.
2025-02-20T22:42:45 < karlp> so "progress"
2025-02-20T22:43:05 < karlp> I'm just exposing more big potholes in the system design I've inherited though
2025-02-20T22:43:27 < karlp> and I found the apple accessory guidelines that say we explicitly can't do what we're doing
2025-02-20T22:43:43 < karlp> (if we wanted to be an apple accessory that is, but still helpful to know what they expect and like)
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2025-02-20T22:53:29 < Ecco> Hi guys :)
2025-02-20T22:55:11 < Ecco> fenugrec: I actually bought fenugreek the other day and thought of your nickname :)
2025-02-20T22:57:00 < fenugrec> I am honoured
2025-02-20T22:57:17 < Ecco> First time I actually tried this spice. It's pretty good!
2025-02-20T23:00:06 < Ecco> Ok, so, I have a dumb geeky question regarding solar cells. I only have a very rough understanding of those.
2025-02-20T23:00:36 < Ecco> I understand their current/voltage curve, and why you need to have a dynamic system that will try and find the optimal load to extract as much power from those.
2025-02-20T23:00:53 < Ecco> But that's pretty much it. Now, I've read they also behave like a diode?
2025-02-20T23:01:13 < Ecco> My question is as follows: how would two solar cells behave if they're in series or parallel?
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2025-02-20T23:02:15 < zyp> if they're in series, they'll be at the same current in their respective curves, if they're parallel they'll be at the same voltage
2025-02-20T23:02:16 < Ecco> Another (dumb) question: is a larger cell equiavelent to two smaller cells in parallel?
2025-02-20T23:03:03 < Ecco> zyp: Indeed, by definition. But if they're not lit evenly, then that means that none of them is operating at its maximum power point, is that correct?
2025-02-20T23:03:16 < zyp> potentially, yes
2025-02-20T23:03:20 < Ecco> Also, does it really matter?
2025-02-20T23:03:31 < zyp> yes, it's why «optimizers» are a thing
2025-02-20T23:04:08 < Ecco> what's that?
2025-02-20T23:04:17 < zyp> optimizers are per-panel DC/DC regulators with MPPT, so you can run a single big inverter for the whole array and still get per-panel MPPT
2025-02-20T23:04:26 < Ecco> gotcha
2025-02-20T23:04:51 < Ecco> I'm interested in very small solar panel to power an MCU
2025-02-20T23:05:02 < Ecco> There are a few nifty MPPT ICs that are designed for this
2025-02-20T23:05:21 < Ecco> So there's no inverter involved whatsoever
2025-02-20T23:05:45 < zyp> does this involve a battery?
2025-02-20T23:05:48 < Ecco> Yes
2025-02-20T23:06:14 < Ecco> At the moment I'm looking at something I assume is rather common: Panel <-> MPPT IC <-> Battery
2025-02-20T23:06:23 < Ecco> Some MPPT ICs also have a regulator to power the MCU
2025-02-20T23:06:34 < zyp> MPPT doesn't make much sense if you don't got anywhere to put the excess energy
2025-02-20T23:06:35 < Ecco> or I assume you can just power from the battery too
2025-02-20T23:06:46 < Ecco> indeed
2025-02-20T23:07:30 < Ecco> but ok, let's assume I have two cells
2025-02-20T23:07:32 < Ecco> same cell
2025-02-20T23:07:36 < Ecco> but different light
2025-02-20T23:07:53 < zyp> what's your power budget gonna look like? what's the mcu gonna do?
2025-02-20T23:07:55 < Ecco> they'll be operating on two different U/I curves because the light is different
2025-02-20T23:08:01 < Ecco> sleep, mostly :)
2025-02-20T23:08:05 < Ecco> I did the power budget math
2025-02-20T23:08:09 < Ecco> It *should* work
2025-02-20T23:08:12 < Ecco> I took some margin
2025-02-20T23:08:13 < zyp> are you sure solar is even worthwhile?
2025-02-20T23:08:16 < Ecco> I need to prototype
2025-02-20T23:08:20 < Ecco> that's a good question
2025-02-20T23:08:23 < Ecco> I think it might be
2025-02-20T23:08:29 < Ecco> I definitely need to test it
2025-02-20T23:08:46 < Ecco> Theroetical calculations are one thing, but… well, you know :)
2025-02-20T23:09:08 < Ecco> But you do make a good point: it's really not clear that it's worthwhile
2025-02-20T23:09:21 < Ecco> It's fun to learn though
2025-02-20T23:09:45 < zyp> yeah, I'm not talking about feasibility, just whether there's any actual benefits
2025-02-20T23:09:55 < Ecco> Maybe there is not
2025-02-20T23:10:12 < Ecco> My understanding is that solar only makes sense if the power consumption is very low
2025-02-20T23:10:24 < Ecco> and at this point you may as well just put a big primary battery and call it a day
2025-02-20T23:10:27 < Ecco> well, a decade :)
2025-02-20T23:10:34 < zyp> exactly
2025-02-20T23:10:41 < Ecco> yeah
2025-02-20T23:11:31 < Ecco> The way I currently see it is "well, I really don't know if it's gonna be worth it, but I'll most likely learn something in the process anyway"
2025-02-20T23:12:16 < zyp> I figure solar makes more sense if you're doing something like a remote outdoor sensor shit with a radio that consumes enough power that you can't run for years on a suitably sized primary cell battery
2025-02-20T23:12:36 < Ecco> Yeah, that would most likely be a case where it would shine (haha)
2025-02-20T23:13:19 < Ecco> So if we consider two cells in series, but each under different lighting conditions. If I put them on a resistive load R, how do I determine the overall current?
2025-02-20T23:13:47 < zyp> but if you're doing anything with a power budget averaging less than 100uA or something, it's probably not worth it
2025-02-20T23:14:50 < Ecco> ok, let's spill the beans: I'm considering a BLE wearable 
2025-02-20T23:15:26 < Ecco> Hopefully yeah, the power budget would be (quite) below that
2025-02-20T23:15:40 < Ecco> but also, at the same time, not having to worry about charge is kind of cool
2025-02-20T23:15:44 < zyp> BLE itself is single digit microamps territory
2025-02-20T23:16:08 < Ecco> yeah, right, but if we're being very conservative about this, hopefully on average we can save power?
2025-02-20T23:17:00 < zyp> I mean, your power budget probably depends more on what else you hook up to the BLE chip than the BLE comms itself
2025-02-20T23:17:00 < Ecco> sorry, I misread what you wrote
2025-02-20T23:17:06 < Ecco> yes
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2025-02-20T23:17:30 < Ecco> Honestly I haven't done a very detailed power budget yet
2025-02-20T23:17:41 < Ecco> but I'm quite positive it will be way below 100µA on average
2025-02-20T23:17:51 < Ecco> Probably more like 10µA than 100
2025-02-20T23:17:59 < Ecco> Now again, that's theoretical
2025-02-20T23:18:08 < zyp> yeah
2025-02-20T23:18:17 < Ecco> (and it's especially hard to estimate the duty cycle of "run vs sleep")
2025-02-20T23:18:33 < Ecco> The problem with solar and wearables
2025-02-20T23:18:41 < Ecco> is that you really only get power when you're outdoor
2025-02-20T23:18:48 < Ecco> You *think* there's light indoors
2025-02-20T23:19:04 < zyp> I'm planning to make some bthome sensors, with a rough power budget of «five years on a CR2450»
2025-02-20T23:19:11 < zyp> which IIRC comes out to 17uA average
2025-02-20T23:19:17 < Ecco> but our eyes are really fucking good at dealing with a super wide dynamic range of lighting conditions (camera aren't quite there yet, which is why you need multiple exposure for "HDR" photos)
2025-02-20T23:19:59 < Ecco> Yeah, so kind of similar I guess
2025-02-20T23:20:28 < Ecco> I think I bought a thermometer recently that looked kind of like what you're describing
2025-02-20T23:20:31 < Ecco> large-ish coin cell
2025-02-20T23:20:37 < Ecco> supposedly really long battery life
2025-02-20T23:20:45 < Ecco> it had a really cool e-ink like 7-segment display
2025-02-20T23:20:57 < Ecco> that was neat (really good contrast and super wide viewing angle)
2025-02-20T23:21:05 < zyp> there's plenty of iot shit like that already
2025-02-20T23:21:16 < Ecco> I did return it though, because I realized I don't really need the screen
2025-02-20T23:21:43 < Ecco> I mean, I just needed a sensor to log the temperature. If I want to *look* at the temp, I'd just use my phone anyway.
2025-02-20T23:21:48 < zyp> I have a bunch of xiaomi/aqara temp/humidity zigbee sensors that I'm unhappy with and want to replace
2025-02-20T23:22:02 < Ecco> I got a couple BLE temp sensors
2025-02-20T23:22:07 < Ecco> I'm very happy with them
2025-02-20T23:22:11 < Ecco> use a AA battery (cheap)
2025-02-20T23:22:38 < Ecco> SwitchBot (the brand)
2025-02-20T23:23:18 < Ecco> Been using those for several months now, reported battery level is 93%
2025-02-20T23:23:34 < Ecco> I am very unhappy with my home assistant's bluetooth dongle tho, but that's another story :-D
2025-02-20T23:23:52 < Ecco> But yeah, for an indoors application, I believe solar is dead in the water
2025-02-20T23:24:13 < zyp> I like the simplicity of the bthome protocol and I've been running a prototype for two months now
2025-02-20T23:24:14 < Ecco> Now if it's a wearable with *some* outdoors time? I think it could be looked into
2025-02-20T23:24:31 < zyp> just wrote a bthome firmware for some generic sensor hardware I borrowed from work
2025-02-20T23:25:19 < zyp> works well enough that it seems worthwhile to replace all the zigbee sensors
2025-02-20T23:25:44 < Ecco> interesting!
2025-02-20T23:25:50 < Ecco> I never quite looked into it
2025-02-20T23:25:59 < Ecco> The ones I bought were really cheap tho
2025-02-20T23:26:09 < zyp> bthome doesn't require pairing or any two way comms, so there's nothing to fuck up
2025-02-20T23:26:12 < Ecco> and came with nice enclosures (small and waterproof)
2025-02-20T23:26:28 < Ecco> Is it based only on  BLE advertisements?
2025-02-20T23:26:33 < zyp> yep
2025-02-20T23:26:36 < Ecco> (like that SwitchBot thing I got I guess)
2025-02-20T23:26:37 < Ecco> yeah
2025-02-20T23:26:39 < Ecco> makes sense
2025-02-20T23:26:56 < Ecco> Unless you're looking for a very specific kind of sensor, I would recommend this brand
2025-02-20T23:27:13 < Ecco> (quicker than rolling your own, and possibly better b/c of the mass-produced enclosure)
2025-02-20T23:30:23 < zyp> this thing? https://www.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-indoor-outdoor-thermo-hygrometer
2025-02-20T23:30:37 < zyp> > You'll find 2 AAA batteries inside the SwitchBot Outdoor Meter, which can be used for approximately 1 year (Panasonic batteries are recommended).
2025-02-20T23:30:51 < zyp> I want better than that :)
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2025-02-20T23:31:50 < zyp> the hardware I'm prototyping on already have an injection molded enclosure, and I've considered just using that
2025-02-20T23:31:57 < zyp> but that's less fun :)
2025-02-20T23:32:18 < zyp> and I'm thinking about making a multisensor while I'm at it
2025-02-20T23:32:43 < zyp> for low volume stuff, it doesn't matter much if I throw in a few more sensor chips on the same board
2025-02-20T23:33:39 < zyp> e.g. some sort of magnetometer so it can be used as a door/window sensor
2025-02-20T23:33:55 < zyp> or potentially a ToF sensor
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2025-02-20T23:34:43 < zyp> maybe PIR and other stuff as well, haven't settled on a feature set yet
2025-02-20T23:36:10 < nomorekaki> early crew
2025-02-20T23:38:33 < Ecco> what's ToF?
2025-02-20T23:38:43 < Ecco> Yeah, I think it's that one I'm using
2025-02-20T23:38:47 < Ecco> (the one you linked to)
2025-02-20T23:39:23 < zyp> https://www.st.com/en/imaging-and-photonics-solutions/time-of-flight-sensors.html
2025-02-20T23:39:28 < karlp> fucking spamhaus again
2025-02-20T23:39:42 < karlp> sent an email to someone, got a reply, replied to that -> spamhouse is now blocking m e.
2025-02-20T23:40:43 < zyp> Ecco, the sensor in your phone that turns off the display when you hold the phone to your ear is a ToF sensor
2025-02-20T23:41:15 < Ecco> oh, ok. Interesting!
2025-02-20T23:41:22 < Ecco> ok, wait
2025-02-20T23:41:29 < Ecco> that's actually *super* interesting
2025-02-20T23:41:33 < Ecco> I thought they used the camera
2025-02-20T23:41:58 < Ecco> are those ToF sensors ultra-low power?
2025-02-20T23:42:13 < Ecco> I assume they are if you're thiking of using one in a BLE sensor
2025-02-20T23:42:27 < Ecco> Do you have to use them very infrequently to save power?
2025-02-20T23:42:54 < jbo> I believe the one I used recently was very low power
2025-02-20T23:42:57 < jbo> which is absolutely not a metric
2025-02-20T23:43:06 < Ecco> :-D
2025-02-20T23:43:10 < Ecco> Hi jbo :)
2025-02-20T23:43:25 < jbo> hey :)
2025-02-20T23:44:00 < Ecco> ok, let me rephrase: how much power would those draw if I wanted to use them as an wake-up signal for an MCU? Would that even be feasible?
2025-02-20T23:44:56 < jbo> well the ones I know typically have a digital interface (like I2C)
2025-02-20T23:45:04 < Ecco> Oh boy, I just realized they put the "light" in FlightSense in bold :-D What a lame pun :-D
2025-02-20T23:45:26 < jbo> I think you can get proximity sensors with an interrupt/detection pin
2025-02-20T23:45:26 < Ecco> I looked at a MEMS accelerometer to do something similiar
2025-02-20T23:45:32 < jbo> those are typically not capable of measuring distance
2025-02-20T23:45:34 < Ecco> it had a dedicated interrupt pin indeed
2025-02-20T23:45:38 < jbo> the ones I used are actually measuring distance
2025-02-20T23:45:42 < Ecco> oh, gotcha
2025-02-20T23:45:50 < Ecco> well, the mems accelerometer I looked at had both
2025-02-20T23:46:00 < Ecco> you can get raw ax,ay,az
2025-02-20T23:46:18 < Ecco> and/or configure conditions that trigger an interrupt pin
2025-02-20T23:58:24 < qyx> but that's not measuring distance
2025-02-20T23:59:31 < Ecco> right, it's not. But I was wondering if ToF sensors could do both (measure through a digital interface *and* expose an interrupt pin that would be triggered under certain conditions)
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2025-02-21T00:00:28 < qyx> most of any i2c/smbus devices have an interrupt pin and some configurable interrupts
2025-02-21T00:00:47 < qyx> and yes, there are accels drawing less than 1 uA while monitoring activity
2025-02-21T00:01:04 < qyx> and can wakeup the mcu on tilting, free fall, tapping
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2025-02-21T00:03:45 < zyp> mcu wakeup isn't all that interesting, it'll be waking up every second or so to advertise on BLE anyway
2025-02-21T00:04:13 < zyp> polling i2c every few seconds isn't that expensive
2025-02-21T00:04:34 < Ecco> Hmm, interesting
2025-02-21T00:05:03 < Ecco> I found a cool video on YouTube about modelling solar cells: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV_z1ptufa4
2025-02-21T00:06:36 < Ecco> There's also part 2 where he does an LTSpice model and simulation :)
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2025-02-21T00:13:26 < jbo> any thermocouple pros around?
2025-02-21T00:13:42 < jbo> I have a thermocouple and a thermocouple connector. both of the same/matching type. Need to solder the wires to the connector.
2025-02-21T00:13:46 < jbo> is there anything special to know about?
2025-02-21T00:13:57 < jbo> does the type of solder matter etc? it's different metals after all
2025-02-21T00:17:04 < nomorekaki> thermocouple wires are crimped usually
2025-02-21T00:18:13 < jbo> just took the connector apart. it has screw terminals actually
2025-02-21T00:19:23 < nomorekaki> y
2025-02-21T00:19:49 < qyx> remember your cjc
2025-02-21T00:20:17 < nomorekaki> you crimp the thermocouple wires into fork type of crimps
2025-02-21T00:20:19 < qyx> it should be at the point where you convert to same metal
2025-02-21T00:21:08 < jbo> the connector itself has different metals
2025-02-21T00:21:22 < nomorekaki> usually thermocouples come precrimped?
2025-02-21T00:21:30 < jbo> mine has loose wires
2025-02-21T00:21:51 < jbo> so had to get the connectors too. and they have apparently screw terminals
2025-02-21T00:22:14 < nomorekaki> basically the end point of connectors is the cjc
2025-02-21T00:22:29 < nomorekaki> temp
2025-02-21T00:23:22 < nomorekaki> if you have chain and last female connector you throw copper wires in thats the point of cjc
2025-02-21T00:23:29 < qyx> yeah
2025-02-21T00:23:58 < nomorekaki> practically it's on the pcb in proximity of that connector
2025-02-21T00:24:11 < qyx> oh so you are asking about connecting tc wires to a tc connector, yes, screw them
2025-02-21T00:24:16 < nomorekaki> because you use some maxim chip to convert or something
2025-02-21T00:24:56 < nomorekaki> https://www.dwyeromega.com/en-us/resources/thermocouple-installations-faq
2025-02-21T00:26:36 < jbo> aye
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2025-02-21T01:01:39 < zyp> nomorekaki, that's fun stuff
2025-02-21T01:01:55 < nomorekaki> what is fun?
2025-02-21T01:01:59 < zyp> cjc
2025-02-21T01:02:19 < zyp> I find calling it compensation a bit of a misnomer
2025-02-21T01:02:48 < zyp> you're not really compensating, you're getting a reference
2025-02-21T01:04:05 < zyp> as in, thermocouples are effectively measuring the relative temperature difference between two points
2025-02-21T01:04:27 < zyp> so to get an absolute measurement, you need an absolute reference
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2025-02-21T01:13:29 < qyx> how can octopart even create an altium account on behalf of me
2025-02-21T01:13:44 < qyx> I don't want anything altium, how dare they
2025-02-21T01:13:59 < qyx> I didn't give them my gdpr to do me altium favors
2025-02-21T01:32:25 < nomorekaki> zyp: to be through thermocouple is measuring in all of it's junctions not just the sensing tip
2025-02-21T01:32:55 < zyp> yep
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2025-02-21T02:28:46 < qyx> what an idea to call a chip PCapØ1Ax-0301
2025-02-21T02:41:56 < qyx> looks very pro, comes from steff-land
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2025-02-21T16:03:38 < karlp> fucking pulseview appimage respects the SIGROKDEOCDERDIR env var, but... adds it in the middle o fteh list
2025-02-21T16:03:48 < karlp> so you can't actually use an updated version of anything built in.
2025-02-21T16:08:31 < BrainDamage> I have a dumb question, why do you keep using flatpaks? is your base os immutable or what?
2025-02-21T16:09:23 < mawk> it's easy to use
2025-02-21T16:10:16 < BrainDamage> they are not, they have ton of quirks
2025-02-21T16:11:23 < BrainDamage> they run sandboxed, and there's cases where the definition is not proper, which can be fixed client side, and when the sandbox architecture itself is lacking in permission capabilities
2025-02-21T16:13:08 < fenugrec> I think karl enjoys pain
2025-02-21T16:13:43 < fenugrec> karlpain
2025-02-21T16:17:42 < specing> karlp: why do you use its appimage? Isn't it available in your distro's repos?
2025-02-21T16:17:53 < specing> at least it's available in mine..
2025-02-21T16:18:20 < mawk> could be that the latest version isn't in repo yet
2025-02-21T16:19:46 < fenugrec> that is true, sigrok is far behind on official 'releases', you want the nightlies or build from source
2025-02-21T16:20:07 < fenugrec> distro packages are thus years behind
2025-02-21T16:49:08 < karlp> I used to run flatpaks for somet hings because it's what fedora was defaulting to
2025-02-21T16:49:16 < karlp> I've given up that experiment.
2025-02-21T16:50:06 < karlp> pulseview I'd run as an appimage for years on an off, when I need it, because building it from scratch is fucking gross, and the distro packages have been worthless for a long time.
2025-02-21T16:50:28 < karlp> and at least at some point in the past, it worked to have a custom decoder dir with the appimage
2025-02-21T16:51:37 < karlp> my decoder I submitted to them in 2021 has sat there as a PR, no comments, no activity too .)
2025-02-21T16:53:11 < karlp> I think what's actually happening is that itðs crashing on a shitty python app version fuckup on the internal decoders, and then failing to continue to my specified ones.
2025-02-21T16:56:29 < karlp> and the release appimage has this problem: https://github.com/wuxx/nanoDLA/issues/24
2025-02-21T16:56:32 < karlp> I love computers
2025-02-21T16:56:46 < karlp> been like that for two years now.
2025-02-21T16:56:59 < karlp> sigrok crew really burnt all their community  bridges didn't they.
2025-02-21T17:01:51 < jbo> who wants to say hello?
2025-02-21T17:02:18 < jbo> what happened at sigrok?
2025-02-21T17:05:30 < fenugrec> main sigrok dev essentially disappeared, and he was doing a (excessively) large portion of the 'boring' maintenance work that results in merged PRs and punctual releases
2025-02-21T17:06:18 < Steffanx> I heard jbo needs more projects to maintain 
2025-02-21T17:06:23 < Steffanx> Or was it jpa-?
2025-02-21T17:06:37 < jbo> aah, I see.
2025-02-21T17:07:00 < jbo> yeah I think most people (especially junior devs) don't realize that writing software is way easier than maintaining & distributing it.
2025-02-21T17:07:11 < jbo> and nobody appreciates that :<
2025-02-21T17:07:14 < fenugrec> there was never really a robust contributing structure; slightly excessive demands for PR quality meant even trivial useful fixes were delayed; contribs run out of patience and so do devs. Tried helping out a bit a while back but couldn't really invest meaningful time
2025-02-21T17:07:43 < Steffanx> Who's the guy that disappeared? Uwe?
2025-02-21T17:08:18 < jbo> thank you for having tried, fenugrec 
2025-02-21T17:09:11 < fenugrec> sigrok poses special challenges due to trying to support a stupid variety of hardware, on vastly different OSes - shit that should be 'solved' like USB handling turns out to be a constant fight with win vs macos vs linux. Also contribs would shoot a PR 'here's initial support for my fancy LA / other', as a subset of an existing driver, but sometimes that breaks previously-working shit and it's hard
2025-02-21T17:09:13 < fenugrec> to coerce people to keep up with the project and test if changes affect their own hardware
2025-02-21T17:10:01 < jbo> I know that pain...
2025-02-21T17:10:09 < jbo> at some point you just had enough of it and then Steffanx gets mad at you
2025-02-21T17:10:25 < Steffanx> Lolwut?
2025-02-21T17:10:29 < jbo> :D
2025-02-21T17:13:42 < fenugrec> the 'FX2-LA' device in particular has been a constant source of weird bug reports and aggravation for years. If I was the maintainer I probably would've ditched that long ago
2025-02-21T17:13:49 < fenugrec> *family of devices
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2025-02-21T18:09:51 < zyp> the one PR I've submitted to sigrok only took four and a half years to get merged
2025-02-21T18:10:02 < jbo> timezones
2025-02-21T18:10:50 < zyp> arguably my fault since I never bothered jumping through the hoops I got asked to
2025-02-21T18:14:09 < englishman> fx2-la is probably the most popular logic analuzer tho
2025-02-21T19:04:34 < jbo> where's nomo when you need him
2025-02-21T19:06:52 < jpa-> karlp: guess why i have  /home/jenkins_slave  on my system :)
2025-02-21T19:08:47 < jbo> aren't they called "agents" in jenkins terminology?
2025-02-21T19:09:06 < jbo> slave is a very, very bad no-no word as we all know
2025-02-21T19:09:19 < jpa-> probably, but that's what is hardcoded in official pulseview builds
2025-02-21T19:09:30 < jbo> haha
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2025-02-21T19:51:30 < Steffanx> Welcome 
2025-02-21T20:11:21 < jpa-> i use pulseview almost every workday, in recent years my main contribution has been complaining about too much complaining
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2025-02-21T21:10:13 < ventyl> pulseview is cool
2025-02-21T21:10:38 < ventyl> i found it years ago working at $automotive. we were using it to visualize kernel scheduler task activity "traces"
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2025-02-21T21:57:13 < fenugrec> man I hate fedex. Looks like now they keep my crap as hostage until I pay their extorsion fee online ?
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2025-02-21T23:16:43 < Steffanx> is there any shipper not doing that fenugrec ?
2025-02-21T23:17:14 < Steffanx> I could join you hate them, but then I would have to hate them all
2025-02-21T23:23:02 < qyx> this world full of hate
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2025-02-21T23:38:11 < fenugrec> Steffanx it was the first time a shipper would hold off from even attempting a delivery, IME
2025-02-21T23:39:22 < qyx> fedex kept asking for eur for my shipments but jlc said don't pay them, we already paid for that service
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2025-02-21T23:39:29 < fenugrec> UPS knocks on the door, waits 3 seconds then disappears. But sometimes UPS also just drives past and declares "recipient not present", so hardly better. USPS + canpost (when not on strike) are the most sane these days
2025-02-21T23:42:59 < fenugrec> I fully expect the idiots in charge in the US will proceed to gut USPS next. I think they're butchering NIST now
2025-02-21T23:43:05 < Shaun> fedex are trying to collect import duty from me, for a package that was EU-to-EU.  It's been sent to collections, but they picked a collections company in the wrong country too.
2025-02-21T23:43:22 < fenugrec> heh that's impressive
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2025-02-22T00:35:23 < ventyl> did anyone here mess with winusb descriptors, by any chance?
2025-02-22T00:39:33 < fenugrec> only very superficially. There was some magic GUIDs that I didn't touch
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2025-02-22T01:13:15 < ventyl> nah, I went into all corners of the internet, read pretty much every explanation, implemented the shit according to M$ documentation and yet still, windows won't install winusb driver for the device
2025-02-22T01:13:54 < ventyl> it seems, that for the basic case, it should be as simple as MSFT100* descriptor and then compat_ID descriptor with WINUSB string
2025-02-22T01:13:59 < ventyl> nope, that doesn't work
2025-02-22T01:15:52 < fenugrec> do you still have traces of previous attempts or is this a VM that you can cleanly revert
2025-02-22T01:17:05 < ventyl> I have some 64k spare Product IDs I can trash
2025-02-22T01:18:03 < fenugrec> ok. maybe win11 is better in this regard but I know XP could get 'confused' when messing with .inf and VID:PID garbage
2025-02-22T01:18:48 < ventyl> well, I want to avoid .inf completely
2025-02-22T01:19:12 < ventyl> I did, and after much struggle succeeded, to install WinUSB for a USB device via .inf file
2025-02-22T01:20:23 < ventyl> in theory you don't need that .inf file as you can inject the same information from the device itself via some m$-specific descriptors winshit will ask for
2025-02-22T01:20:47 < fenugrec> you're probably past this point, but in case here's some winusb descriptors that 'should' work https://github.com/candle-usb/candleLight_fw/blob/master/src/usbd_gs_can.c#L126
2025-02-22T01:22:57 < ventyl> yes, that's what I implement
2025-02-22T01:23:24 < ventyl> all three of them
2025-02-22T01:23:33 < fenugrec> you have that 'property name' UUID in USBD_MS_EXT_PROP_FEATURE_DESC too ?
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2025-02-22T01:25:18 < ventyl> yes, it should not be needed for just getting the driver installed and attached, but you need if if you want to do any serious work as you need that DeviceInterfaceGUID to enumerate the device and open it from within userspace, IIRC
2025-02-22T01:25:45 < ventyl> maybe there's some workaround around it, but m$ doc sucks just enough I am not willing to search for it
2025-02-22T01:27:41 < ventyl> windows kinda accepts them
2025-02-22T01:28:23 < ventyl> I see that CompatibleIds for the device lists USB\MS_COMP_WINUSB
2025-02-22T01:29:27 < ventyl> and is missing, if I comment out code sending compat ID descriptor
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2025-02-22T01:44:10 < ventyl> fenugrec: What the device returns looks like this: https://digital-nomad.sk/ms_os_desc.txt
2025-02-22T01:52:58 < fenugrec> ventyl hm I notice some differences ofc but not sure which ones matter
2025-02-22T01:53:31 < fenugrec> i.e. my USBD_GS_CAN_VENDOR_CODE seems to have a few extra subsections
2025-02-22T01:54:37 < ventyl> this is a simple one-interface device
2025-02-22T01:54:58 < ventyl> ok, one last thing I have to check: in what windows version this whole clusterfuck works out of box
2025-02-22T01:55:42 < qyx> I remember usb already being problematic in win98
2025-02-22T01:55:45 < fenugrec> last resort, ask stmGPT
2025-02-22T01:55:51 < ventyl> I did that yesterday
2025-02-22T01:56:23 < ventyl> it started hallucinating straight away (like, MS OS 2.0 descriptors can limit compatibility with Windows 1.0) so I closed it
2025-02-22T01:56:32 < ventyl> https://community.silabs.com/s/article/manually-install-winusb-driver-on-windows-7?language=en_US
2025-02-22T01:56:46 < ventyl> "Win7 ships with the correct 'winusb.sys' file, but is missing an updated '.inf' file that associates the driver with "usb\ms_comp_winusb" devices."
2025-02-22T01:57:00 < fenugrec> or, copy any known-working descriptor, and start trimming / changing until you break stuff? I assume you went down that path already. Dunno, just trying to provide moral support, USB sucks and I understand your pain
2025-02-22T01:57:27 < ventyl> the VM I am testing this with is a Win 7 VM
2025-02-22T01:57:42 < fenugrec> yea I wouldn't trust an LLM for finer details like raw descriptors
2025-02-22T01:59:25 < ventyl> so, I wasted like... 5 hours, trying to fix something that isn't broken
2025-02-22T01:59:37 < ventyl> just because of testing against outdated VM
2025-02-22T02:01:50 < fenugrec> Nice
2025-02-22T02:03:25 < ventyl> naaa it fuckin' works now
2025-02-22T02:05:28 < ventyl> fenugrec: thanks
2025-02-22T02:10:06 < fenugrec> VM USB passthru is... not always great. virtualbox was a constant source of aggravation. 
2025-02-22T02:11:01 < ventyl> + tinyusb contains a bug which essentially prevents it for vendor devices :>
2025-02-22T02:11:16 < fenugrec> which ?
2025-02-22T02:12:12 < ventyl> VM passthrough works in a way that device is first recognized by the kernel, then noticed by the hypervisor
2025-02-22T02:12:33 < ventyl> when it decides it wants to redirect it, it resets the configuration and then starts forwarding packets into VM
2025-02-22T02:12:51 < ventyl> config reset isn't implemented correctly for class vendor in tinyusb
2025-02-22T02:13:05 < ventyl> I'll create a PR which fixes it
2025-02-22T02:13:20 < fenugrec> good to know, and thanks
2025-02-22T02:15:05 < ventyl> there are other ways how to trigger this behavior, but VM passthrough is the easiest
2025-02-22T02:15:36 < ventyl> also, I'll probably create a PR against libusb as during debugging of this issue, I have extended xusb so it is able to parse these descriptors
2025-02-22T02:15:39 < ventyl> at least somehow
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2025-02-22T03:18:29 < fenugrec> Is there a way to run Cube online yet ? want to play with the power calculator without downloading whole thing
2025-02-22T03:19:27 < ventyl> heh, I still had one subtle bug there
2025-02-22T03:52:48 < qyx> [] INFO: ncn26010: rxbuf = 0x10, 0x00, 0x01, 0x01, 0xbc, 0x01, 0x89, 0xa1
2025-02-22T03:52:54 < qyx> at least the chip works \o/
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2025-02-22T05:50:16 < qyx> I really hate off-board i2c, even if only over 100 mm ffc cable
2025-02-22T05:50:53 < qyx> now why the ethernet reports link up, autoneg ok when the cable is disconnected
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2025-02-22T20:36:48 < ventyl> vacating us already?
2025-02-22T20:37:52 < bitmask> only 12 miles away
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2025-02-22T21:25:24 < qyx> dolan the duck?
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2025-02-23T02:02:08 < bitmask> holy shit moving sucks... especially when you're moving to the third floor
2025-02-23T02:02:15 < jbo> hah
2025-02-23T02:02:21 < jbo> I was moving to the 6th floor once
2025-02-23T02:02:29 < jbo> and elevators around here are... small
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2025-02-23T02:14:41 < specing> Living on first floor must be optimal. Least amount to carry plus you're safe from floods and heated from all sides.
2025-02-23T02:15:07 < jbo> that's what I am doing nowdays
2025-02-23T02:15:21 < jbo> moved from 6th floor to 1st floor in the same building :>
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2025-02-23T02:19:57 < bitmask> jbo having an elevator at all changes everything
2025-02-23T02:20:03 < bitmask> might as well be on the first floor
2025-02-23T02:20:16 < bitmask> I had to carry up stairs
2025-02-23T02:27:09 < jbo> yeah the large stuff didn't fit either
2025-02-23T02:27:10 < jbo> but oh well
2025-02-23T02:27:20 < jbo> no elevator sounds like a PITA for everything else (which is the majority of stuff)
2025-02-23T02:30:00 < jbo> luckily the macbook is made from light-weight aluminum - amirite?
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2025-02-23T05:12:12 < qyx> argh lolwon lab supply was causing collisions on my PoDL single pair ethernet
2025-02-23T05:12:17 < qyx> one day wasted
2025-02-23T05:12:24 < qyx> unbelievable
2025-02-23T05:13:47 < qyx> an unrelated question is why this is causing tx buffer starvation, it looks like if a frame cannot be sent in time because of multiple collisons or whatever, it is kept in the buffer
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2025-02-23T05:20:46 < qyx> I can't saturate the link though over a 16 MHz SPI
2025-02-23T05:20:53 < qyx> I dhould do DMA
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2025-02-23T10:27:51 < qyx> oh I found an AC short on the bus
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2025-02-23T12:43:15 < Steffanx> Why would you do such thing qyx?
2025-02-23T12:44:18 < qyx> because I can't solder chokes properly
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2025-02-23T15:55:38 < karlp> how was the supply causing problems?
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2025-02-23T16:07:42 < qyx> karlp: diff mode noise of the supply was above the collision detection threshold so it was stopping transmission on detected peaks
2025-02-23T16:08:11 < qyx> and were doing backoff and repeated transmissions
2025-02-23T16:10:34 < qyx> and how - it is PoDL, I was inserting the power using a T with diff mode power choke which was not attenuating the psu noise enough
2025-02-23T16:20:30 < qyx> or it is better to say, the choke is there to attenuate ethernet frequencies and pass lower ones, incl. psu low freq noise
2025-02-23T16:20:44 < qyx> I should probably filter it more before injecting
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2025-02-24T12:13:09 < machinehum> Tiem to see how well buildroot works with systemd
2025-02-24T12:14:58 < machinehum> time
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2025-02-24T15:25:13 < karlp> feckin, wrote a sigrok decoder with f strings.
2025-02-24T15:25:42 < karlp> works on packaged distro sigrok-cli, but not in binaries, because they define only python 3.2..3.5, and f-strings ar eafter that.
2025-02-24T15:27:27 < karlp> I cna stack my decoder with the CLI too, but not in pulseview. lame.
2025-02-24T15:30:38 < jpa-> lol
2025-02-24T15:30:45 < jpa-> time to build your own
2025-02-24T15:31:09 < karlp> bit annoyed, uart decoded has support for _packets_ with specified delimiter bytes
2025-02-24T15:31:21 < karlp> but it doesn't produce them as python otuputs, only annotations.
2025-02-24T15:31:40 < karlp> easy to patch in, one liner, but... not awesome for building my own decoders on really...
2025-02-24T15:33:34 < karlp> feckin, now it's tyep hints :)
2025-02-24T15:37:10 < karlp> ok, cute. got a workable cobs decoder now.
2025-02-24T15:47:22 < jbo> moin
2025-02-24T16:00:34 < machinehum> |o|
2025-02-24T16:02:07 < specing> py 3.5? that's 8+ years old now
2025-02-24T16:13:26 < ventyl> I bet you would find people going grumpy if you wanted rip python 2.x off their hands
2025-02-24T16:14:27 < jbo> can aisler really not do "combined orders"?
2025-02-24T16:14:44 < jbo> gotta pay shipping & do the invoice thing for each of them individually?
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2025-02-24T16:43:14 < ventyl> germans :)
2025-02-24T16:43:23 < ventyl> they are doing it like this for 15 years
2025-02-24T16:50:21 < jbo> alright, I guess I'll just be grumpy about it then
2025-02-24T16:52:23 < ventyl> mock them. either they will change it, or invade you.
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2025-02-24T17:02:01 < jbo> hah
2025-02-24T17:16:02 < qyx> jbo: they have zero shipping
2025-02-24T17:21:47 < jbo> DHL with no tracking
2025-02-24T17:21:54 < jbo> so you're even more f*cked than usual
2025-02-24T17:22:59 < ventyl> DHL with no tracking usually translates to "cheapest local service" once the parcel crosses german borders
2025-02-24T17:23:18 < ventyl> locally it often involves partial/full loss of receipient information
2025-02-24T17:24:01 < jbo> ah, that's great then. swiss post rocks
2025-02-24T17:24:15 < jbo> they never lost a single package in my life
2025-02-24T17:24:44 < jbo> once they even refunded me for a $1'600.- order because they insisted that they lost the package and I told them three times that they delivered it and that I got the stuff on time in good condition.
2025-02-24T17:25:07 < jbo> they didn't believe me so they gave me $1'600.-   -__-
2025-02-24T17:27:59 < ventyl> honestly I think that germany is falling apart as a country
2025-02-24T17:28:18 < ventyl> just by talking to germans
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2025-02-24T17:40:10 < qyx> jbo: lol
2025-02-24T17:40:49 < qyx> but otherwise I agree, I never had any issue with local post IF and only if I don't consider their employees
2025-02-24T17:41:44 < qyx> if I have to interact with their people, blood pressure instantly rises
2025-02-24T17:42:02 < jbo> I have that with most people, doesn't matter their employer
2025-02-24T17:50:30 < karlp> qyx: yes they do. they put them in different parcels because they don't always "combine automaticall"
2025-02-24T17:50:38 < karlp> which means I pay multiple times to _receive_ them here.
2025-02-24T17:50:43 < karlp> aisler can get fucked for that sort of bullshit
2025-02-24T17:50:54 < karlp> "we don't need a cart, we'll do it magically" --> doesn't do it at all
2025-02-24T17:51:50 < jbo> I see I'm not the only one who's grumpy about it
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2025-02-24T17:52:18 < jbo> but thank you for making sure that caps no longer fall off plastic bottles accidentally, EU.
2025-02-24T17:55:49 < qyx> thats a very bad narrative, those things are indeed important but you have to respect priorities of your problems to solve
2025-02-24T17:56:29 < qyx> we were living in an illusion we already have everything more important sorted out
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2025-02-24T17:57:33 < qyx> which was apparently wrong because we are now failing at food production, energetic sustainability, etc.
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2025-02-24T18:43:23 < zyp> qyx, the bottle caps seems more like a solution in search of a problem than a problem that actually needed to be solved
2025-02-24T18:47:22 < qyx> idk I would never separate the two
2025-02-24T18:49:56 < zyp> exactly, so what is the problem being solved?
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2025-02-24T18:55:30 < karlp> that like 97% of bottles were getting returned, but the caps ended up separate...
2025-02-24T18:55:48 < karlp> i really odn't get why people are so upset about tethered caps .
2025-02-24T18:56:32 < karlp> some background here perhaps if you'r ereally bored: https://www.bottlebill.org/images/PDF/Dutch%20study%20on%20caps_Doppenrapport_EN_2017_DEF_small.pdf
2025-02-24T19:03:29 < qyx> zyp: I have a ocpd but that doesn't mean everyone else does, my parents in law werent returning caps, to start with
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2025-02-24T19:35:01 < BrainDamage> I think people are midly annoyed how the new tethered caps often turn by gravity into the stream, and turn into a diffuser
2025-02-24T20:02:30 < qyx> there is always a solution https://www.fclane.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_teaser/public/product_images/k8/MGC002.jpg?itok=kY45s7if
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2025-02-24T20:53:56 < zyp> qyx, what the fuck were they doing with them then?
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2025-02-24T21:59:38 < veverak> zyp: I guess you are the same guy that is on 1BitSquared discord right? :(
2025-02-24T21:59:40 < veverak> *:)
2025-02-24T22:00:28 < zyp> oh, yes
2025-02-24T22:00:42 < zyp> I thought I'd seen the name before :)
2025-02-24T22:01:16 < veverak> same :)
2025-02-24T22:09:23 < Steffanx> and both you've been here for a pretty long time :P
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2025-02-24T22:33:11 < veverak> yeah, but I don't think I am very active here
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2025-02-24T22:45:49 < jbo> lets resurrect IRC
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2025-02-24T23:30:00 < karlp> hang on, who's veverak?
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2025-02-24T23:45:19 < qyx> zyp: there are things on this earth I don't understand
2025-02-24T23:45:27 < qyx> not even mentioning electronics
2025-02-24T23:45:46 < zyp> :)
2025-02-24T23:46:26 < qyx> anyway, t1s works
2025-02-24T23:46:43 < qyx> I got it working yesterday with ncn26010 on both sides
2025-02-24T23:47:05 < zyp> both? as in only two?
2025-02-24T23:47:17 < qyx> I don't have more devices yet
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2025-02-24T23:56:21 < qyx> now I need to make a 100base-tx converter
2025-02-24T23:58:10 < veverak> karlp: me!
2025-02-24T23:58:20 < jbo> who's veverak?
2025-02-24T23:58:30 < veverak> ok this is getting repetitve
2025-02-24T23:58:42 < jbo> it's not like I'm kidding
2025-02-24T23:58:50 < zyp> be nice
2025-02-24T23:59:05 < veverak> just guy that does stm32 as a hobby :P
2025-02-24T23:59:10 < jbo> welcome!
2025-02-24T23:59:19 < veverak> to be fair I will switch to role of embedded tech lead soon
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2025-02-25T00:00:35 < qyx> are you guys in .cz doing any r&d in embedded?
2025-02-25T00:01:18 < veverak> eeeh, what R&D means?
2025-02-25T00:01:24 < veverak> like, what do you imagine counts as R&D?
2025-02-25T00:01:26 < qyx> because over here nothing works, nothing is being developed
2025-02-25T00:02:14 < qyx> I would say "designing and maintaining a product" counts
2025-02-25T00:02:23 < veverak> yes :)
2025-02-25T00:03:14 < qyx> anyway, any idea on RMII back-to-back connection?
2025-02-25T00:05:57 < zyp> CRS_DV and TX_EN doesn't exactly match, IIRC
2025-02-25T00:06:14 < qyx> yeah that's my concern too
2025-02-25T00:06:16 < zyp> and you probably want speed adaption too
2025-02-25T00:06:31 < qyx> so I want a 1 port switch with rmii
2025-02-25T00:06:36 < qyx> instead of doing back to back
2025-02-25T00:06:57 < zyp> exactly, look if any of the switch chips with some MII ports can use those towards a PHY
2025-02-25T00:07:15 < zyp> I believe I've seen some that are configurable
2025-02-25T00:09:50 < qyx> I have seen one manufactured by TI and I can't find it now
2025-02-25T00:10:11 < qyx> it was sgmii, rgmii, rmii, mii, whatever-mii
2025-02-25T00:15:13 < zyp> you could use KSZ8863RLL
2025-02-25T00:15:36 < zyp> according to microchip parametrics, that one has the lowest list price of the ones they make
2025-02-25T00:15:48 < zyp> > The KSZ8863RLL RMII can interface with RMII PHY and RMII MAC devices.
2025-02-25T00:16:37 < zyp> it doesn't seem to care about CRS_DV and TX_EN differences
2025-02-25T00:19:37 < qyx> yeah reading about ksz8863
2025-02-25T00:19:40 < qyx> fount it too
2025-02-25T00:20:17 < qyx> table 3-7 is the thing I am looking for
2025-02-25T00:20:22 < zyp> I'd consider grabbing one of the -T1 switch chips though
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2025-02-25T00:20:46 < zyp> make a combined 10BASE-T1S, 100BASE-T1 and 1GBASE-T switch
2025-02-25T00:22:15 < zyp> maybe -T1L as well while you're at it :)
2025-02-25T00:22:49 < qyx> iirc there was no free docs for T1 switches
2025-02-25T00:23:19 < zyp> doesn't microchip have a bunch?
2025-02-25T00:23:32 < qyx> yes but loginwall
2025-02-25T00:24:17 < qyx> I need 1. 8 port 100base-T1 + 2x FO (sgmii) + 2x gigabit
2025-02-25T00:24:24 < qyx> 2. T1S -> 4x T1L
2025-02-25T00:24:38 < qyx> 3. a development thing with one of each type, ideally
2025-02-25T00:24:40 < qyx> as you say
2025-02-25T00:25:08 < qyx> oh and 4. a tee, 2x T1L -> 1x T1S
2025-02-25T00:26:49 < zyp> what does 4 do that 2 doesn't?
2025-02-25T00:27:29 < qyx> switching is the same but different product
2025-02-25T00:27:48 < qyx> 2. is backplane to 4 sensor strings, subrack unit
2025-02-25T00:28:17 < qyx> 4. is sensor string drop-tee for connecting individual sensors over t1s locally
2025-02-25T00:29:43 < qyx> I am leaning towards implementing 2 and 4 with SPI mac+phy chips and software switching
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2025-02-25T00:38:36 < qyx> LAN9371 is an exact fit, 3x 100base-t1, 1x 100base-tx and 2x RMII/RGMII/MII
2025-02-25T00:38:43 < qyx> for T1S and T1L
2025-02-25T00:40:03 < zyp> so, if you make number 3, I would like one or two
2025-02-25T00:40:17 < zyp> seems a useful thing to have
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2025-02-25T00:45:01 < qyx> what's the reason you want gigabit?
2025-02-25T00:45:29 < zyp> not important if there's only one of those
2025-02-25T00:47:27 < qyx> there is also LAN9381 which has 3 MAC ports
2025-02-25T00:48:55 < zyp> while you're at it, maybe throw in a usb-ethernet adapter? :)
2025-02-25T00:50:12 < qyx> lol
2025-02-25T00:50:46 < zyp> no, I'm serious, makes total sense for a development thing
2025-02-25T00:51:17 < qyx> do you have anything to recommend?
2025-02-25T00:51:47 < qyx> let's check microchip
2025-02-25T00:51:55 < zyp> for usb-ethernet? no, but something with *MII would be good
2025-02-25T00:52:30 < zyp> LAN7801 maybe?
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2025-02-25T01:02:18 < qyx> I am considering using usb-eth bridge with an actual phy to provide galvanic isolation of the usb part
2025-02-25T01:03:48 < zyp> I was thinking the usb port would double as power source for the switch
2025-02-25T01:04:20 < zyp> and with all the other ports being isolated, I don't see a need for the USB port to be
2025-02-25T01:05:34 < qyx> T1S and T1L are not by default
2025-02-25T01:20:50 < qyx> ok going with two SJA1105 connected together which gives mi 8 arbitrary MAC ports
2025-02-25T01:21:27 < qyx> 1 for usb (lan7801), one for 1000base-t1, one for FO, 2x T1, 2x T1L, 1x T1S
2025-02-25T01:23:06 < qyx> or something like that, there will be "slow" and "fast" half
2025-02-25T01:25:19 < zyp> aren't they cap isolated?
2025-02-25T01:26:20 < qyx> yes but no, small caps, also PoDL
2025-02-25T01:26:59 < qyx> Note that RGMII v1.3 [6] requires an external delay of between 1.5 ns and 2 ns on TXC and RXC.
2025-02-25T01:27:02 < qyx> uh
2025-02-25T01:27:13 < qyx> The maximum interconnect delay is limited to 1 ns. Therefore, the maximum supported trace length is
2025-02-25T01:27:16 < qyx> approximately 15 cm.
2025-02-25T01:29:25 < zyp> interconnect delay?
2025-02-25T01:31:01 < qyx> idk, sja1105 says that in the ds, rgmii mode
2025-02-25T01:31:19 < zyp> I don't get it
2025-02-25T01:31:21 < qyx> for v1.3 only, it implements v2.0 too, idk what that means
2025-02-25T01:31:45 < zyp> RGMII is source synchronous, so TX and RX sides are pretty much independent
2025-02-25T01:32:07 < qyx> yes they are saying that too two sentences before that
2025-02-25T01:32:16 < qyx> idk why is there such limitation
2025-02-25T01:32:31 < zyp> and most RGMII hardware I've poked at supports handling the clock skew in-chip
2025-02-25T01:33:04 < qyx> I hope the thing can work out of box with zero configuration
2025-02-25T01:33:37 < qyx> but I'll definitely put a stm32 there and connect all config interfaces
2025-02-25T01:33:55 < zyp> hmm, are there any -T1* SFPs yet?
2025-02-25T01:34:17 < zyp> would be convenient if shit was just SFPs you could put into an off the shelf switch
2025-02-25T01:34:29 < qyx> I did't check yet
2025-02-25T01:34:44 < qyx> but T1 and SFPs are two different worlds
2025-02-25T01:35:04 < qyx> just we happen to mix them
2025-02-25T01:39:03 < zyp> https://www.technica-engineering.com/sfp-module-1000base-t1-hmtd-2/
2025-02-25T01:39:14 < zyp> does 100/1000-T1
2025-02-25T01:41:33 < zyp> by the way, what's the connector situation like now?
2025-02-25T01:44:45 < qyx> bad
2025-02-25T01:45:10 < qyx> I am designing for 3-pin M8 for T1S, 3-pin M12 for T1L
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2025-02-25T13:34:58  * karlp vomits
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2025-02-25T13:56:22 < mawk> why are you vomiting karlp 
2025-02-25T14:02:26 < ventyl> b4df00d
2025-02-25T14:03:09 < ventyl> fucking kwin on wayland has half of the functionality that works for decades on X broken
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2025-02-25T17:13:36 < karlp> using different sizes of m shits
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2025-02-25T19:10:20 < qyx> zyp: what do you think about dissecting usb-ss into hs/hs parts and hubbing the hs lane only to get usb on the mcu?
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2025-02-25T19:37:49 < zyp> there's hubs doing that, e.g. HS hub and SS directly passthrough to a single port, other ports are usb2 only
2025-02-25T19:38:20 < zyp> but I'm not sure how legal that is, and how well it works in practice
2025-02-25T19:38:45 < zyp> it probably confuses the host wrt. power topology
2025-02-25T19:39:23 < zyp> unless there's descriptors to specifically tell the host
2025-02-25T19:39:42 < zyp> I haven't worked enough with usb3 to know how their descriptors work
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2025-02-25T19:40:29 < qyx> I could try that for that lan7801
2025-02-25T19:40:50 < zyp> oh, right, you're thinking about the switch
2025-02-25T19:41:29 < qyx> yes, SS directly to the ethernet bridge and use FS/HS with a hub to provide usb to the mcu
2025-02-25T19:42:32 < zyp> sounds overkill with a hub chip, slap a second USB port on it instead
2025-02-25T19:42:37 < zyp> or hook the mcu to ethernet
2025-02-25T19:42:45 < zyp> (or both)
2025-02-25T19:43:58 < qyx> I may as well keep it unconnected, the inly function of the mcu so far is to configure switches and PHYs
2025-02-25T19:49:07 < zyp> I wonder how much gateware a simple switch would consume
2025-02-25T19:53:00 < qyx> idk but sja1105 is overly complicated
2025-02-25T19:53:17 < qyx> microchips too
2025-02-25T19:53:53 < qyx> inyeresting that microchip does have t1s phy, but no t1l
2025-02-25T19:54:01 < qyx> TI has t1l but no t1s
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2025-02-26T00:13:21 < qyx> microchip has one too Ethernet ICs 100/1000BASE-T1 RGMII/SGMII PHY 
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2025-02-26T00:51:29 < zyp> they do?
2025-02-26T00:51:38 < zyp> last I checked only broadcom did, and it only did SGMII
2025-02-26T00:54:11 < zyp> ah, LAN8870
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2025-02-26T00:57:15 < zyp> that's perfect, I want to do some FPGA stuff that's capable of interfacing both with other FPGA stuff on a realtime gigabit bus, as well as microcontrollers that only has a 100M MAC
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2025-02-26T01:14:14 < qyx> isn't sgmii ieasier for fpga?
2025-02-26T01:14:33 < qyx> or it eats expensive serdes pairs?
2025-02-26T01:25:56 < qyx> I catn't find any usb2 to mii/rmii bridge
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2025-02-26T04:01:37 < qyx> the game is back: unrouted 190
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2025-02-26T10:26:02 < qyx> "today we are delivering a parcel for you. we prefer contactless payment. amount to pay: 0 eur."
2025-02-26T10:26:23 < mawk> I had to pay a 0€ bill once
2025-02-26T10:26:35 < mawk> they were threatening to send to collections and bill me late fees
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2025-02-26T10:41:33 < qyx> why on earth kikecad remembers the screen where windows were last time
2025-02-26T10:42:15 < Steffanx> Because someone decided to add that feature 
2025-02-26T10:42:25 < qyx> thats retarded
2025-02-26T10:42:34 < Steffanx> Ok
2025-02-26T10:43:15 < Steffanx> I'm glad to see you took over dongs place on IRC 😝
2025-02-26T10:43:27 < qyx> the usual behaviour is to open new windows on the screen containing the cursor
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2025-02-26T10:43:53 < qyx> and it is the right one
2025-02-26T10:44:47 < qyx> so now I dragged the schematic window to my main screen to continue there and it keeps opening all dialogs on the rightmost screen
2025-02-26T10:48:52 < Steffanx> Time for a bug report 
2025-02-26T10:52:03 < qyx> also I am unable to come up with a method to draw a 45° wire in new eeschema
2025-02-26T10:52:28 < qyx> besides enabling "45° mode" in preferences which draws everything at a 45° angle
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2025-02-26T10:56:15 < ds2> heh
2025-02-26T10:56:48 < ds2> any 30/60 deg mode too?
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2025-02-26T17:30:31 < jbo> hello
2025-02-26T17:34:49 < Steffanx> Welcome.
2025-02-26T17:38:51 < jbo> thank you
2025-02-26T18:46:05 < karlp> ffs, i just keep ahving these wtf moments.
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2025-02-26T19:05:08 < Steffanx> Why Mr karlp?
2025-02-26T19:18:15 < qyx> more lava than usual?
2025-02-26T19:19:35 < karlp> no, just some of this bullshit code I hav eto look at sometimes .)
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2025-02-26T20:40:38 < karlp> in good news, I think If inally figured out why I was struggling so hard to get nextcloud docker to work.
2025-02-26T20:41:02 < karlp> I kept thinking I could treat it like podman, where you just ignore what users/groups teh container thinks it has anduse :z and it gets new namespaces
2025-02-26T20:41:10 < karlp> but that's not what :z for docker does at all.
2025-02-26T20:41:23 < karlp> and docker is root, so the container processes reallllly want to run as those users.
2025-02-26T20:46:20 < qyx> the first and foremost problem is docker
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2025-02-27T12:00:21 < Steffanx> Welcome mawk. 
2025-02-27T12:00:32 < Steffanx> How's ubloxing?
2025-02-27T12:02:06 < mawk> we're just going to buy a lot of stock and stop thinking about it
2025-02-27T12:02:13 < mawk> then it's a problem for later
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2025-02-27T13:30:23 < karlp> tag connect spotted: https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/steval-25r200sa.html
2025-02-27T13:40:39 < qyx> mawk: is it still available?
2025-02-27T13:40:47 < qyx> considering that too
2025-02-27T13:42:59 < ventyl> ololol
2025-02-27T13:43:53 < ventyl> CEO of Tiobe published an open letter to automotive industry that they should abandon MISRA as it actually does not improve code quality
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2025-02-27T13:59:30 < karlp> hahah
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2025-02-27T14:23:45 < ventyl> it didn't take long and the chairman of MISRA Working Group arrived feeling offended :>
2025-02-27T14:27:17 < karlp> where is this?
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2025-02-27T14:33:29 < ventyl> https://www.tiobe.com/news/item/a-letter-to-the-european-automotive-industry-on-misra/
2025-02-27T14:33:49 < ventyl> they posted it as a motherfucking press release :>
2025-02-27T14:35:09 < ventyl> also here https://www.linkedin.com/posts/paul-jansen-299429_dear-european-automotive-industry-after-activity-7300810858081705984-ptiC/
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2025-02-27T14:53:05 < karlp> hrm, had hoped for more concrete, but stil good thanks
2025-02-27T15:04:39 < mawk> qyx: yeah there's a lot of stock in resellers still
2025-02-27T15:04:44 < mawk> ublox didn't close shop yet
2025-02-27T15:04:47 < mawk> they just announced
2025-02-27T15:05:08 < BrainDamage> wait until the scalpers get wind of this
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2025-02-27T15:16:20 < karlp> it's only lte they're killing, 
2025-02-27T15:16:26 < karlp> not sure scalpers are going ot be real interested.
2025-02-27T15:17:18 < mawk> they say they're killing all cellular
2025-02-27T15:17:25 < mawk> lte, nb-iot, gsm
2025-02-27T15:17:31 < mawk> unless they changed their mind since
2025-02-27T15:17:44 < mawk> they want to focus on position
2025-02-27T15:18:38 < Steffanx> And wifi/ble.
2025-02-27T15:18:58 < mawk> yeah
2025-02-27T15:19:03 < mawk> but nobody cared about that
2025-02-27T15:19:08 < mawk> you don't use ublox for that
2025-02-27T15:19:13 < mawk> they just repackage ESP32 stuff
2025-02-27T15:19:25 < zyp> and nrf
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2025-02-27T15:55:26 < ventyl> karlp: I guess that MISRA WG will scramble to come up with lots of why everyone should actually go full MISRA that will work exactly the opposite way
2025-02-27T15:58:53 < fenugrec> guy is complaining about misra not being able to keep up with 'this fast moving industry'... I don't know if I would associate the word 'fast' with the automotive-software world
2025-02-27T16:00:56 < ventyl> their project are moving and faster pace than the guys working at it
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2025-02-27T16:01:44 < ventyl> about a year ago, a few folks from ElektroBit were complaining that some 6 months ago they set rustc version into stone and they are not able to do cargo update anymore as their compiler version is too old :>
2025-02-27T16:01:49 < fenugrec> what is that guy proposing anyway as an alternative ? his own company's software ?
2025-02-27T16:01:56 < ventyl> automotive industry is going to suffer a lot
2025-02-27T16:02:24 < specing> they should've used Ada instead
2025-02-27T16:03:57 < ventyl> fenugrec: openly, nothing. obviously. yet, the "depression-driven attitude" is one: "dude, just use anything, it'll give you qualitatively better results"
2025-02-27T16:04:19 < ventyl> and that's true, MISRA compliance is mostly fucking useless these days
2025-02-27T16:05:43 < fenugrec> I wouldn't know, but there's enough traps in C that you want some hard rules about certain things (definitely any UB), but last I checked misra had some 'interesting' rules about some other things that I'm not sure I agree on
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2025-02-27T16:07:30 < ventyl> well, *some* misra rules are actually useful. yet it turns out that these are usually not unique to misra
2025-02-27T16:08:03 < ventyl> then there are rules which are a fresh smell of '80s, edlin and tasking compiler v. 1.0
2025-02-27T16:08:07 < zyp> «a broken clock is right twice a day»
2025-02-27T16:08:41 < ventyl> my favorite one is } else { /* fucking MISRA */ } 
2025-02-27T16:09:33 < ventyl> which is outdate for some... decade+ since any reasonable compiler became capable of reporting misleading indentation in nested if - if - else constructs
2025-02-27T16:11:34 < specing> does MISRA say anything about 'if' following an if / else if  block without a blank line in between?
2025-02-27T16:11:57 < specing> or does gcc have an option to warn about these?
2025-02-27T16:12:43 < ventyl> no. they say that you should not have if without else. if you follow this rule, you'll end up one-else-too-many if you ignore blocks and employ misleading formatting.
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2025-02-27T16:13:22 < ventyl> and GCC can now (for quite some time) warn you that some else will actually bind to different if than indentation suggests
2025-02-27T16:20:10 < fenugrec> true, but those are warning levels that may change from version to next, and gcc AFAIK makes no guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of those 'bonus' checks
2025-02-27T16:21:10 < fenugrec> and I wonder if vendor C compilers (eg renesas 'shc') even report that type of thing at all
2025-02-27T16:31:19 < ventyl> well, it is pretty hard to do that anyway if you use blocks... and if you have if-else-if-else trees, you *will* use them, won't you?
2025-02-27T16:31:40 < ventyl> so to me a rule that enforces you to use blocks in compound if condition makes more sense
2025-02-27T16:31:49 < ventyl> another one is "function shall only have one exit point"
2025-02-27T16:32:09 < ventyl> one may guess that the logic is that it has to do something with code quality.
2025-02-27T16:32:12 < specing> ventyl: gotos galore?
2025-02-27T16:32:17 < specing> goto exit:
2025-02-27T16:32:23 < ventyl> well, no. goto is still allowed, so you can jump around like a frenzy monkey
2025-02-27T16:32:29 < specing> ahahahahaha!
2025-02-27T16:32:53 < ventyl> the true reason for this rule to exist is that an early version of MISRA checker was too simple and it wasn't able to analyze code where function had multiple return statements.
2025-02-27T16:33:07 < ventyl> now, some 30+ years later, we still have this rule
2025-02-27T16:33:18 < ventyl> now, this is a legacy fetish. stronger than scat porn fetish.
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2025-02-27T21:20:18 < hsv> if (...) { ... } else if (...) { ... } ..., without a closing else { ... }, is often a bug regardless of indentation.
2025-02-27T21:37:52 < antto> huh o_O
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2025-02-27T21:56:09 < zyp> bullshit
2025-02-27T22:00:51 < antto> reminds me of one guy, barterquack, (okay, he was actually named quarterback), who said that code should be broken into small functions otherwise it's bad or something
2025-02-27T22:01:24 < antto> long functions and/or deeper { } nested blocks was somehow bad in his head
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2025-02-27T22:24:04 < Steffanx> lol antto. That guy most certainly did not work on C&C Generals.. i was browsing the released code earlier this evening. "StartNewGame" is over a 1000 lines, has quite a few nested if-elses and more your guy would not approve for sure.
2025-02-27T22:26:46 < antto> i think maybe he came from the automotive-grade software/firmware or something
2025-02-27T22:30:34 < Steffanx> The code is pure quality here and there. Like some debug helpers all over the place being literally: if(blah) { blah = blah}
2025-02-27T22:30:37 < Steffanx> ;
2025-02-27T22:30:42 < Steffanx> somewhere
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2025-02-27T22:34:41 < Steffanx> and i think jpa- worked on the code as well. He left his name all over the code base, but didnt want us to know so he used "jba" instead. 
2025-02-27T22:35:08 < Steffanx> "// Totally hacky set of conditions to make col. burton's monkey ass not slide down the cliffs backwards.  This could use some improvement at some point.  jba. 31DEC2002"
2025-02-27T22:39:46 < qyx> lolstef
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2025-02-27T22:58:31 < qyx> Steffanx: does "nedareo" ring a bell for you?
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2025-02-27T23:14:14 < Steffanx> Not at all qyx
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2025-02-27T23:39:26 < ventyl> antto: I've been working on a codebase developed by someone who stated that calling a function is so *expensive* that it was best to have all code of the module in one long function.
2025-02-27T23:40:22 < ventyl> so it was mostly a bunch of 4-5k SLOC long functions. he was immune to all kinds of arguments, including but not limited to benchmarking of actual short vs. long code.
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2025-02-28T00:01:09 < nomorekaki> how is innovate
2025-02-28T00:09:28 < Steffanx> Can you eat that, nomorekaki ?
2025-02-28T00:10:32 < nomorekaki> are you hungry again steff?
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2025-02-28T00:21:18 < nomorekaki> im not certain if innovate excists
2025-02-28T00:28:54 < jbo> nomorekaki
2025-02-28T00:28:57 < jbo> I have been waiting for you
2025-02-28T00:29:41 < nomorekaki> I'm scared now
2025-02-28T00:30:19 < jbo> hang on, stay put
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2025-02-28T00:30:37 < antto> wait till you see the big forks and spoons
2025-02-28T00:31:30 < jbo> nomorekaki, I have a couple of these: https://media.distrelec.com/Web/Downloads/_t/ds/RND_410-00122_eng_tds.pdf
2025-02-28T00:31:47 < jbo> and the corresponding type-T connectors that we talked about last time that happen to have screw terminals inside of them
2025-02-28T00:32:13 < jbo> so on the picture of the datasheet you can see that there is a piece of heatshrink tubing where the wires/cable changes
2025-02-28T00:32:26 < jbo> the "large" wires are too large to fit into the connector housing.
2025-02-28T00:32:40 < nomorekaki> and you want to cut it now
2025-02-28T00:32:40 < jbo> I was wondering if I can just cut that off and use the "small wires" or whether there is some magic happening there
2025-02-28T00:32:57 < jbo> decided to wait and ask you first :p
2025-02-28T00:34:06 < nomorekaki> how large are the wires?
2025-02-28T00:34:23 < nomorekaki> is it just the entry hole that is the problems?
2025-02-28T00:34:27 < jbo> yes
2025-02-28T00:34:35 < nomorekaki> just make it bigger
2025-02-28T00:34:39 < jbo> one of them would barely fit, but both don't
2025-02-28T00:35:01 < BrainDamage> where the metal change, is where the cold junction is is
2025-02-28T00:35:17 < BrainDamage> the only thing is that you should crimp and avoid solder
2025-02-28T00:35:39 < jbo> why can I not just cut away the "splice" that is visible on the picture? 
2025-02-28T00:35:49 < BrainDamage> you can
2025-02-28T00:35:50 < jbo> from what I can tell, the two larger wires are still not the same metals
2025-02-28T00:36:24 < nomorekaki> it's probably something that is easier to manipulate than the thin wires
2025-02-28T00:36:43 < BrainDamage> just remember that where you cut and do the change is where you should put the cold junction compensation
2025-02-28T00:36:44 < BrainDamage> that's it
2025-02-28T00:36:53 < jbo> so there is no harm done if I just cut that and use the thin wires?
2025-02-28T00:37:07 < BrainDamage> other than they may break, no
2025-02-28T00:37:11 < jbo> BrainDamage, I mean... that is where the thermocouple connector would go - and the comensation happens in the meter, no?
2025-02-28T00:37:38 < BrainDamage> yes, if they were closer they'd be better
2025-02-28T00:38:21 < jbo> so just to be painfully clear: I can cut off the large wires and everything will work 100% the same, right?
2025-02-28T00:38:36 < jbo> I assume nomorekaki has a good reason for suggesting to just making a bigger hole in the thermocouple connector
2025-02-28T00:39:08 < nomorekaki> I mean they have done that stuff for a reason
2025-02-28T00:39:34 < jbo> yeah, and my question is: is it just for convenience or does it influence the temperature measurement
2025-02-28T00:40:09 < BrainDamage> how expensive is that probe?
2025-02-28T00:40:17 < jbo> 20.-
2025-02-28T00:40:33 < BrainDamage> cut it and just try
2025-02-28T00:40:46 < nomorekaki> do whatever you feel jbo
2025-02-28T00:40:47 < BrainDamage> to my knowledge, it shouldn't impact it
2025-02-28T00:41:04 < jbo> alright
2025-02-28T00:41:06 < jbo> thank you both! :)
2025-02-28T00:41:17 < Steffanx> Welcome 
2025-02-28T00:41:22 < jbo> -__-
2025-02-28T00:42:03 < Steffanx> I was her for moral support 
2025-02-28T00:42:06 < Steffanx> Here
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2025-02-28T00:43:38 < nomorekaki> damn
2025-02-28T00:44:14 < nomorekaki> steff is trans
2025-02-28T00:44:44 < Steffanx> Absolutely.
2025-02-28T00:45:24 < nomorekaki> #lgbtq32
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2025-02-28T01:47:48 < nomorekaki> night crew kaki and qyx
2025-02-28T01:48:51 < nomorekaki> sitting across the digital campfire
2025-02-28T01:52:27 < zyp> sup sup
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2025-02-28T01:56:17 < nomorekaki> always forget zyp
2025-02-28T01:57:49 < nomorekaki> been innovating like crazy zyp?
2025-02-28T01:58:38 < zyp> nah, was helping somebody reverse engineer the protocol of the encoders on some robot servos
2025-02-28T02:00:03 < nomorekaki> robotic arm revolution
2025-02-28T02:00:15 < nomorekaki> did you fix linuxcnc?
2025-02-28T02:00:48 < zyp> fix?
2025-02-28T02:02:19 < nomorekaki> performance latency problem you had with robotic arm
2025-02-28T02:03:03 < zyp> not sure what you're referring to
2025-02-28T02:03:39 < zyp> haven't had time to play with robot arm in a while
2025-02-28T02:03:53 < zyp> for like a year, actually
2025-02-28T02:04:40 < zyp> it's still waiting for me to have time to tune up the FoC controllers for each of the motors
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2025-02-28T03:16:54 < qyx> nomorekaki: qyx is sleeping today, no innovation happening
2025-02-28T03:17:13 < nomorekaki> only thing better than innovating
2025-02-28T03:17:27 < nomorekaki> tasty sleeps
2025-02-28T03:20:19 < fenugrec> the other day I spent hours 'innovating' a 2-transistor latching circuit before realizing I was reinventing a D flipflop+reset
2025-02-28T03:21:55 < nomorekaki> first circuit I made was a latch
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2025-02-28T14:23:00 < machinehum> Does anyone have a serial mux they like
2025-02-28T14:23:30 < machinehum> Just wanna have serial come from place 1 OR place 2 to place 3
2025-02-28T14:23:35 < machinehum> Not at the same time
2025-02-28T14:24:05 < machinehum> My dumbass used an OR gate on the tx, but turns out usart sits high
2025-02-28T14:28:23 < ventyl> today I've seen Windows trying to run arm-none-eabi-gcc.exe via JRE
2025-02-28T14:28:29 < ventyl> ...and I thought I've seen everything
2025-02-28T14:53:22 < Steffanx> Pebkac :)
2025-02-28T14:55:17 < Steffanx> Won't pretty much any cheap ass digital or analog 2:1 mux do the job machine?
2025-02-28T14:59:41 < ventyl> Steffanx: definitely, but I can't imagine how's that even remotely possible
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2025-02-28T15:09:44 < karlp> fucking spamhaus fucking with me again.
2025-02-28T15:10:00 < karlp> complaining about helo on v6, but their own helocheck@abuseat.org doesn't work on v6
2025-02-28T15:27:06 < machinehum> Steffanx: coo
2025-02-28T15:27:35 < machinehum> Just wondering if there's a favorite
2025-02-28T15:29:05 < zyp> machinehum, just switch the OR chip with a pin compatible AND chip?
2025-02-28T15:30:10 < zyp> if you're sure the signals won't collide, that's easier than having an explicit control signal
2025-02-28T15:30:43 < machinehum> zyp: Yeah that's what I'm going to do
2025-02-28T15:30:54 < machinehum> Sadly on 50x boards
2025-02-28T15:31:18 < BrainDamage> you'll need 1 extra wire, or a not gate compared to a mux
2025-02-28T15:31:18 < zyp> is it a sot23-5?
2025-02-28T15:31:45 < zyp> BrainDamage, huh?
2025-02-28T15:31:52 < BrainDamage> oh, you meant the and not as a mux, but to combine the signals?
2025-02-28T15:32:03 < BrainDamage> if yes, nvm what I said
2025-02-28T15:32:03 < zyp> yes
2025-02-28T15:32:24 < zyp> use OR to merge signals that idle low and AND to merge signal that idle high
2025-02-28T15:32:52 < zyp> and they typically come in pin compatible packages, so straightforward to change
2025-02-28T15:32:52 < machinehum> Already have the parts
2025-02-28T15:33:13 < machinehum> Need to add a pullup as well
2025-02-28T15:33:37 < zyp> that's more annoying :)
2025-02-28T15:34:10 < machinehum> Yeah just a 1/8w bojang'd to the bottom of the board
2025-02-28T15:34:43 < machinehum> I think avahi sucks
2025-02-28T15:37:47 < BrainDamage> it's better than ... not having it, but it's not very reliable, due to the own nature of mdns
2025-02-28T15:43:43 < machinehum> https://pastebin.com/raw/wXkcta50 It kept getting stuck in this Host name conflict
2025-02-28T15:43:53 < machinehum> I looked around, people were like "Yeah it's an issues
2025-02-28T15:43:57 < machinehum> issue*"
2025-02-28T15:44:39 < zyp> is it conflicting with itself?
2025-02-28T15:45:06 < machinehum> Yeah I checked, there wasn't another mdns resolver running
2025-02-28T15:45:20 < machinehum> Also I disabled ipv6 and isolated it to wlan0... so
2025-02-28T15:47:06 < machinehum> https://github.com/avahi/avahi/issues/117
2025-02-28T15:47:57 < machinehum> I'm not motivated to solve it because I replaced it with systemd-resolved and everything now works perfectly, just curious if anyone else has seen this
2025-02-28T15:49:38 < BrainDamage> not that specific issue, but I've had programs that somehow managed to conflict with avahi despite not being mdns responders themselves ( or even listening to the same port )
2025-02-28T15:52:06 < machinehum> Interesting
2025-02-28T15:53:28 < machinehum> Anyways my thing works now and all the scientists can connect to my sensor servers
2025-02-28T15:53:32 < machinehum> Horay
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2025-02-28T20:49:12 < jbo> aisler is so much slower than eurocircuits 
2025-02-28T20:56:09 < jpa-> i tried to come up with something that is even slower than aisler, but i don't think there is any
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2025-02-28T21:22:11 < Steffanx> Does Aisler at least give you 10 pcbs when you order 10?
2025-02-28T21:22:22 < Steffanx> And not 7 and 3 weeks later the remaining 3?
2025-02-28T21:22:44 < jbo> they seem to only give you the option to get 9 or 12
2025-02-28T21:22:53 < jbo> seems to be a multiple of three
2025-02-28T21:23:06 < jbo> which is funny because three is often not enough and six is too many
2025-02-28T21:23:21 < Steffanx> ok, but do you get 9 or 7 and 2 a few weeks later.
2025-02-28T21:23:40 < jbo> so far I had no problems with the quantity
2025-02-28T21:23:42 < Steffanx> that seems to happen lately with eurocircuits lately.
2025-02-28T21:23:48 < jbo> what I did find funny is that they ship you PCBs that failed their own tests
2025-02-28T21:23:58 < jbo> (as part of the ordered quantity)
2025-02-28T21:24:09 < jbo> I had zero problems in my life with eurocircuits
2025-02-28T21:24:16 < jbo> but that's just me
2025-02-28T21:25:01 < Steffanx> or when you order pcbs with peel-off mask and a few days after shipping they suddenly realize they forgot the mask.
2025-02-28T21:25:23 < Steffanx> quality work.\
2025-02-28T21:26:03 < jbo> wat
2025-02-28T21:26:56 < Steffanx> yes exactly.
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2025-02-28T21:27:37 < Steffanx> Except for that, all is fine i guess
2025-02-28T21:28:44 < jbo> did they handle the situation properly/professionally?
2025-02-28T21:30:09 < Steffanx> Im not sure how it ended
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2025-02-28T21:46:09 < qyx> jbo: aisler did that to me too
2025-02-28T21:46:21 < qyx> shipped 3 prototypes with gnd shorted to vdd
2025-02-28T21:46:32 < qyx> they even mentioned it in the report
2025-02-28T21:46:59 < qyx> because there was some kicad pour difference between v7 and pre-v7
2025-02-28T21:47:35 < qyx> and I was sending them kicad board directly because they were guaranteeing correct import etx.
2025-02-28T21:47:43 < qyx> because why not
2025-02-28T21:48:02 < qyx> also, yes, slow
2025-02-28T21:57:46 < jbo> same here
2025-02-28T21:59:12 < jbo> as in: with me it wasn't a kicad issue.
2025-02-28T21:59:24 < jbo> ordered 9 boards, three of them didn't pass their electrical tests after fabbing
2025-02-28T21:59:30 < jbo> they still shipped them, so I had 6.
2025-02-28T21:59:36 < jbo> and three borked ones
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2025-02-28T22:10:55 < Steffanx> jbo: Yes, thats crap. They should do a better. 
2025-02-28T22:10:58 < Steffanx> job
2025-02-28T22:15:24 < mawk> zgeg
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2025-02-28T23:11:57 < Steffanx> Yes mawk 
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2025-02-28T23:37:35 < qyx> you are a zgeg mawk
2025-02-28T23:38:29 < jbo> qyx, $customer says bq25756 does not work. they gave me a board. works out of the box without any issues on my end.
2025-02-28T23:39:06 < jbo> they say that ovp is kicking in at 16V. checked the resistors, checked the math, should be 24V. and guess what... it works in the expected range when I test it.
2025-02-28T23:44:08 < zyp> conclusion: $customer does not work
2025-02-28T23:46:26 < jbo> lol
2025-02-28T23:52:39 < qyx> jbo: the known one? or another one?
2025-02-28T23:52:48 < qyx> cohld be the power source noisy?
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2025-02-28T23:54:04 < jbo> qyx, the known one
2025-02-28T23:54:23 < jbo> qyx, idk it's a cheap chinese bullshit lab supply because nobody listens to me when I argue to buy once but buy well
2025-02-28T23:54:48 < jbo> qyx, if the powersupply would just be noisy, you wouldn't expect UVP to kick in at 16V tho
2025-02-28T23:55:54 < jbo> surely it wouldn't be so noisy that at 16V nominal PSU setting it would go >24V
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