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[~Robin@dD5776E9E.access.telenet.be] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T11:34:26 < Robint91> how do you use the internal flash to store some settings 2013-07-01T11:34:32 < Robint91> in a easy way 2013-07-01T11:44:02 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T11:46:54 < Thorn> bundled module 'serialport' in qt 5.1.0rc2 works fine. 2013-07-01T11:48:30 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T12:28:40 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T12:55:38 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-01T12:59:46 -!- Count_Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 2013-07-01T13:02:19 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-01T13:06:35 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-01T13:06:51 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-01T13:20:32 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T13:22:24 < Tectu> does gdb has a command to show all variables in scope that can be printed? 2013-07-01T13:24:56 < PaulFertser> Tectu: i lo 2013-07-01T13:25:37 < PaulFertser> Tectu: and "i va" 2013-07-01T13:26:35 < karlp> (info locals and info variables; also info args and help info) 2013-07-01T13:28:14 < Tectu> thanks! 2013-07-01T13:39:33 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-01T13:57:34 < trepidaciousMBR> Is NVIC_SystemReset() the right way to software reset an STM32F4? 2013-07-01T14:05:41 < jpa-> sounds like it 2013-07-01T14:14:10 < trepidaciousMBR> Looks like RCC->CSR really does tell you exactly what reset the board, which is nice :) 2013-07-01T14:16:08 -!- Bird|lappy 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It wasn't just one bit 2013-07-01T14:26:52 < Tectu> but could be that I think of the wrong MCU 2013-07-01T14:28:39 < trepidaciousMBR> Tectu: I had a go with NVIC_SystemReset() and it seemed to work. It looks like that function does set more than one bit, and it has __DSB() before and after. 2013-07-01T14:29:21 < trepidaciousMBR> The weird thing with resets is they all seem to set the "NRST Pin" reset bit, so really I can only tell if the pin was used to reset by checking that it's the ONLY bit set 2013-07-01T14:29:26 < trepidaciousMBR> maybe that's how it's meant to work ;) 2013-07-01T14:30:52 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T14:33:44 < Tectu> you want to know if it was a soft or a hard reset? 2013-07-01T14:33:57 < Tectu> if you ever entered that soft reset function, it was a soft reset, no? :D 2013-07-01T14:34:23 < trepidaciousMBR> Yes, it turns out that it doesn't actually matter :) 2013-07-01T14:34:47 < trepidaciousMBR> If the software reset bit is set, that must be what caused the reset, so pin bit doesn't matter 2013-07-01T14:55:24 < dongs> sup dicks 2013-07-01T15:05:58 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-01T15:13:02 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-01T15:24:26 < trepidaciousMBR> So STM32F4 CCM RAM is guaranteed to be left unaltered during a software reset? I haven't found anything in the docs to confirm this yet, seems to be true though :) 2013-07-01T15:26:31 < trepidaciousMBR> Maybe I should use the RTC BKP registers instead 2013-07-01T15:35:30 < dongs> thats what you should use 2013-07-01T15:36:00 < dongs> im rebooting to bootloader from userland, 2013-07-01T15:36:07 < dongs> by writing some crap at end of sram and rebooting 2013-07-01T15:36:14 < dongs> then checking it in reset vector. 2013-07-01T15:36:20 < dongs> proper way would be doing same with bkp registers. 2013-07-01T15:46:29 < Robint91> I use flash 2013-07-01T15:46:32 < Robint91> YOLO 2013-07-01T15:48:15 < dongs> lol. 2013-07-01T15:50:39 <+Steffanx> Cohen, Robint91? :) 2013-07-01T15:51:01 < Robint91> Steffanx, ? 2013-07-01T15:51:16 < dongs> i think hes implying you might be jewish 2013-07-01T15:51:20 <+Steffanx> Google: yolo dumpert 2013-07-01T15:51:28 < dongs> since cohen is a jewish name 2013-07-01T15:51:43 <+Steffanx> Yes, dongs is a smart guy :) 2013-07-01T16:01:51 < trepidaciousMBR> dongs: Ah cool, I just changed to bkp registers because it seemed neater, good to have that confirmed :) 2013-07-01T16:02:16 < trepidaciousMBR> dongs: Reset with NVIC_SystemReset()? 2013-07-01T16:02:43 < dongs> yeah, sure 2013-07-01T16:02:53 < dongs> i forgot what i did but htat sounds famililar. 2013-07-01T16:02:58 < dongs> then I just jump to rom bootloader. 2013-07-01T16:03:07 < dongs> from reset vector, after checking ram. 2013-07-01T16:06:16 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T16:09:53 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T16:19:42 < Thorn> http://i055.radikal.ru/1307/2a/06f85708e613.jpg 2013-07-01T16:20:25 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-01T16:22:17 < dongs> i dont get it 2013-07-01T16:22:29 < dongs> retweeting anyway. 2013-07-01T16:23:04 < Thorn> why the fuck tcp doesn't support delimited messages out of the box 2013-07-01T16:24:05 -!- l4cr0ss_ [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T16:24:09 < zyp> because it's not designed to? 2013-07-01T16:25:20 < Thorn> it's obviously not impossible http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol#Message-based_multi-streaming 2013-07-01T16:26:24 < zyp> of course not, that's why SCTP exists 2013-07-01T16:26:45 < zyp> SCTP were designed with a different goal in mind than TCP 2013-07-01T16:27:29 < zyp> if you want SCTP, use SCTP 2013-07-01T16:28:03 < dongs> scat transfer protocol? 2013-07-01T16:28:25 < Thorn> it can do everything tcp does and much more. there's e.g. a http over sctp document somewhere. the problem is, weendows doesn't support it 2013-07-01T16:29:14 < dongs> im glad it doesnt, because it sounds fucking useless already 2013-07-01T16:29:19 < dongs> and this is the first time I've heard of it 2013-07-01T16:29:44 < dongs> if windows supported every opensauce piece of shit out there, and did so half-assedly, we'd have just another copy of lunix 2013-07-01T16:30:20 < Thorn> opensauce lol. it's part of SIGTRAN 2013-07-01T16:30:39 < Thorn> so a typical implementation will cost you $100,000 2013-07-01T16:30:46 < dongs> SIGTRAN is the name, derived from signaling transport, of the former Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) working group that produced specifications for a family of protocols that provide reliable datagram service and user layer adaptations for Signaling System 7 (SS7) and ISDN communications protocols. 2013-07-01T16:30:51 < dongs> SS7?? ISDN??? 2013-07-01T16:30:56 < dongs> could oyu find any older shit to talk about? 2013-07-01T16:31:05 < dongs> something maybe from like a couple decades ago? 2013-07-01T16:31:21 < zyp> dongs, SCTP were designed as a modern replacement for telephony backend shit 2013-07-01T16:32:16 < dongs> ugh 2013-07-01T16:32:17 < zyp> which is why it hasn't been relevant enough for desktop computers for windows to add support for it 2013-07-01T16:32:18 < dongs> going to sleep 2013-07-01T16:33:52 < zyp> SCTP seems quite nice though, I've looked at using it at several occations where it would be a better fit than TCP 2013-07-01T16:33:55 <+Steffanx> gn 2013-07-01T16:34:57 < Thorn> if I'm not too mistaken system 7 is what modern exchanges (and all cellular networks) use to talk to each other so it's hardly obsolete lol 2013-07-01T16:36:57 < Thorn> and ISDN survives in h.232 2013-07-01T16:37:09 < Thorn> er h.323 2013-07-01T17:00:43 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T17:05:38 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@94.28.151.18] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-01T17:07:13 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-01T17:13:57 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-01T17:25:22 < karlp> system7 is what all old exchanges talk to each other on. 2013-07-01T17:25:35 < karlp> lots of them are IP based now, 2013-07-01T17:25:49 < karlp> vodaofne iceland had a system7 network about 2 meters long, 2013-07-01T17:25:57 < karlp> the length of the cable from the old legacy system to the new one. 2013-07-01T17:27:00 < Thorn> IP == sigtran? 2013-07-01T17:27:19 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-01T17:27:36 < Thorn> or voip? 2013-07-01T17:28:34 < karlp> voip 2013-07-01T17:28:40 < karlp> fuck sigtran and all that ship 2013-07-01T17:29:23 < karlp> thomson/cirpack stuff, 2013-07-01T17:29:51 < karlp> then ericsson decided they wanted our business again, and came back with proper softwitch stuff again. 2013-07-01T17:32:01 < Thorn> so "carrier grade" services are provided by softswitches? 2013-07-01T17:32:34 < karlp> you bet 2013-07-01T17:33:03 < karlp> carrier grade's a fucking scam anyway. 2013-07-01T17:33:32 < karlp> "we can do five 9s! woo" and then some numbnuts telco jocky pushes the wrong key and turns it off and goes for lunch 2013-07-01T17:34:07 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-01T17:37:51 <+Steffanx> lol karlp is really frustrated about it all? 2013-07-01T17:38:53 < karlp> no, quit that job :) 2013-07-01T17:39:53 < zyp> :p 2013-07-01T17:40:49 < Thorn> well. I don't remember a single large-scale PSTN failure around here. ISPs (and Internet services alike) fail regularly 2013-07-01T17:41:11 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T17:43:50 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.246] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T17:46:57 <+Steffanx> Same here Thorn 2013-07-01T17:47:51 < karlp> that's not because of any ss7 vs ip superiority though 2013-07-01T17:48:25 < karlp> that's just that the team running the pstn side of things doesn't _ever_ touch _anything_ without 4 weeks of simulation and a double check phone call with ericsson/nortel 2013-07-01T17:49:15 < Thorn> more like circuit switched vs. ip (and dedicated hardware vs. software-only solutions). ss7 doesn't carry voice does it 2013-07-01T17:49:16 <+Steffanx> An example of how everyone should do it? 2013-07-01T17:49:30 < zyp> ss7 is just OOB signalling 2013-07-01T17:49:37 < zyp> as far as I'm aware 2013-07-01T17:50:14 < karlp> Thorn: what often happens is that the softswitch will crash, but it doesn't mean it ever stops routing phone calls 2013-07-01T17:50:21 < karlp> just means you couldn't make any _changes_ 2013-07-01T17:50:38 < Thorn> ss7 carries SMS messages etc. afaik but that's about it 2013-07-01T17:50:50 < karlp> and they definitely do lose things like forwarding numbers and stuff and forward after X seconds settings 2013-07-01T17:51:00 < karlp> but that doesn't count as an "outage" so no-one talks about it. 2013-07-01T17:53:01 < Thorn> we have an ISP with VoIP services here whose range of phone numbers is 2240xxx. tech support is 2240112 lol. that's carrier grade service 2013-07-01T17:54:09 < Thorn> they run cisco call manager and use h.323 2013-07-01T17:56:58 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T17:57:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T17:59:27 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-01T17:59:59 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T18:07:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-01T18:13:19 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T18:18:07 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@87.sub-75-196-6.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T18:18:29 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T18:18:43 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-01T19:23:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.234.121] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T19:40:13 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T19:42:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-01T19:43:40 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-01T19:48:28 < trepidaciousMBR> Can you reset the FSMC on an STM32F4? 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2013-07-01T21:38:26 <+Steffanx> He is.. i would hide in the bomb shelter emeb 2013-07-01T21:39:06 * emeb makes note to complain to ICE about lax immigration policies 2013-07-01T21:39:54 <+Steffanx> that too 2013-07-01T21:43:08 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-01T21:48:18 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Quit: Gone..] 2013-07-01T21:48:52 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T21:48:55 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-01T21:49:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T21:49:54 < qyx_> i wonder if TL026 amp would work with 0/5V supply, minimum recommended operation conditions say -3/+3 2013-07-01T21:56:19 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-01T22:00:54 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.246] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T22:00:54 < emeb> Why not use an op-amp that's designed for single supply operation? 2013-07-01T22:01:10 < Robint91> emeb, that isn't a op-amp 2013-07-01T22:01:32 < emeb> oops 2013-07-01T22:01:47 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-01T22:02:02 < emeb> Why not use an vga that's designed for single supply operation? 2013-07-01T22:02:28 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T22:04:19 < Laurenceb_> http://www.discogs.com/Secede-Tryshasla/release/458658 2013-07-01T22:04:27 < Laurenceb_> lolling at 1st comment 2013-07-01T22:05:42 < emeb> harsh! 2013-07-01T22:06:24 <+Steffanx> Laurenceb_, in the US its forbidden to post crap in ##stm32 2013-07-01T22:06:37 < Laurenceb_> sheet 2013-07-01T22:06:59 < emeb> oh noes - I'm in trouble now. 2013-07-01T22:09:22 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-01T22:14:06 < qyx_> emeb: i need something diff -> VGA/AGC -> diff -> audio ADC -> i2s -> stm32 2013-07-01T22:14:30 < emeb> qyx_: so you don't need 50MHz BW? 2013-07-01T22:14:43 < qyx_> i found nothing soutable so far except sn761666, which is obsolete 2013-07-01T22:14:49 < qyx_> no, 100kHz 2013-07-01T22:15:03 < emeb> qyx_: why diff to the ADC? 2013-07-01T22:16:07 < qyx_> actually i don't need diff, but most higher-spec adc's have diff inputs 2013-07-01T22:16:41 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T22:17:32 < emeb> qyx_: have you looked at THAT Corp? 2013-07-01T22:17:33 < emeb> http://www.thatcorp.com/THAT_IC_Selection_Guide.shtml 2013-07-01T22:17:54 < emeb> they have a lot of audio-specific stuff, differential and single. Some VGAs. 2013-07-01T22:18:35 < emeb> what kind of dynamic range and SNR are you looking for? 2013-07-01T22:19:02 < emeb> ie - if you don't need > 90dB SNR then the differential inputs won't help much. 2013-07-01T22:19:25 < emeb> so you could convert single-diff at the last step before the ADC input. 2013-07-01T22:20:28 < qyx_> i think i can go without vga with such dynamic range or lower dynamic range and vga 2013-07-01T22:20:49 < qyx_> i am just thinking of low cost 24 bit sdr frontend 2013-07-01T22:21:17 < emeb> 24-bit equivalent dynamic range? srsly? 2013-07-01T22:22:01 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2013-07-01T22:22:04 < qyx_> meh, not really 2013-07-01T22:22:21 < qyx_> they have something like 106dB 2013-07-01T22:24:34 < emeb> most of the SDR stuff I do is 14-bit inputs. Sometimes we go 16-bit, but that gets more expensive and harder for the RF guys to work with. 2013-07-01T22:24:35 < qyx_> or i should read more carefully first 2013-07-01T22:24:48 * emeb can't point fingers 2013-07-01T22:25:54 < qyx_> i know, but there are that hifi people looking for 24bit audio and therefore lowcost 24bit adcs are available 2013-07-01T22:26:09 < qyx_> WM8786 for example 2013-07-01T22:26:40 < qyx_> and i just want to try if all that VGA/AGC stuff can be avoided with that 2013-07-01T22:26:56 < emeb> ya 2013-07-01T22:27:16 < emeb> what's your signal source? 2013-07-01T22:27:18 < qyx_> so just mmic rf lna -> iq demod -> adc with integrated antialiasing filter 2013-07-01T22:27:31 < emeb> aha. 2013-07-01T22:27:37 < emeb> what for I/Q demod? 2013-07-01T22:27:47 * emeb thinks Tayloe 2013-07-01T22:27:47 < qyx_> adl5387 2013-07-01T22:28:13 < qyx_> which has 200ohm diff out 2013-07-01T22:30:08 < Laurenceb_> sheet 2013-07-01T22:30:10 < Laurenceb_> http://warp.net/records/boards-of-canada/tomorrows-harvest-out-now 2013-07-01T22:33:28 < Laurenceb_> never saw that coming 2013-07-01T22:37:20 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@87.sub-75-196-6.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-01T22:44:32 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T22:48:56 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T22:49:53 < emeb> qyx_: nice mixer. what for an LO? 2013-07-01T22:50:09 < qyx_> adf4351 2013-07-01T22:50:21 < qyx_> the problem is that these two components are the most costy parts 2013-07-01T22:50:30 < emeb> yeah. 2013-07-01T22:50:47 < emeb> and that LO only goes down to 35MHz, so no SWL for you! 2013-07-01T22:51:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.234.121] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-01T22:51:24 < qyx_> that reminds me of another idea 2013-07-01T22:51:38 < qyx_> couldn't be stm32 pll used for that? 2013-07-01T22:52:16 < Laurenceb_> shit this is GOOD 2013-07-01T22:52:32 < emeb> you could use the MCO output, but the frequency resolution / range isn't too great. 2013-07-01T22:52:51 < emeb> and who knows how well it does on phase noise. 2013-07-01T22:53:18 * Laurenceb_ has downloaded latest BOC album 2013-07-01T22:53:32 < qyx_> isn't there some spreading applied on pll outputs to lower emi? 2013-07-01T22:53:34 < emeb> Blue Oyster Cult? That's so '80s 2013-07-01T22:54:07 < emeb> qyx_: some plls do that - usually it's a marketing bullet and I don't recall seeing it on the STM32. 2013-07-01T22:54:10 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-01T22:54:33 < emeb> but it would make the PLL output useless for any communications purposes. 2013-07-01T23:00:36 < qyx_> so if i assume correctly, if i have adc with dynamic range of about 110dB, 21dB lna and ~4dB gain in demod 2013-07-01T23:01:12 < qyx_> and i receive -100dB signal.. would i still have about 35dB range on output of adc? 2013-07-01T23:01:49 < qyx_> or maybe not 2013-07-01T23:02:14 < emeb> Don't forget that at some point you need to reference everything to some actual voltage level. 2013-07-01T23:02:39 < emeb> ie you receive a -100dBm <- signal (the m is important) 2013-07-01T23:02:39 < qyx_> yep, thats some dB's +- 2013-07-01T23:02:42 < qyx_> but just general idea 2013-07-01T23:03:05 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.246] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T23:03:12 < emeb> and you'll need to figure out what the P-P level into the ADC corresponds to 0dBfs 2013-07-01T23:03:31 < emeb> then back that out to figure out what the front-end sensitivity is. 2013-07-01T23:05:46 < qyx_> hm, ok 2013-07-01T23:07:07 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T23:07:33 < iR0b0t1> when the hell did that example project get put up 2013-07-01T23:07:34 < iR0b0t1> :| 2013-07-01T23:09:05 < emeb> qyx_: what kind of lna do you plan on? 2013-07-01T23:09:21 < emeb> noise figure on that may end up limiting your dynamic range. 2013-07-01T23:10:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T23:10:14 < qyx_> uh, didnt account for that 2013-07-01T23:11:53 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-01T23:14:40 < R0b0t1> You making SDR? 2013-07-01T23:14:51 < qyx_> just in theory 2013-07-01T23:15:06 < R0b0t1> Ah. Well, question: Anyone have example of project playing stereo sound? 2013-07-01T23:15:20 < emeb> depends 2013-07-01T23:15:37 < emeb> what kind of output you looking for? 2013-07-01T23:15:38 < R0b0t1> What MHz roughly to just do throughput from comm source, and what MHz to inject prerecorded into that stream? 2013-07-01T23:15:39 < qyx_> there was something on the st web for f4discovery 2013-07-01T23:16:22 < emeb> what do you mean "what MHz"? 2013-07-01T23:16:25 < R0b0t1> I will look, I do think board had headphone jacks 2013-07-01T23:16:32 < R0b0t1> emeb, relative measure of throughput 2013-07-01T23:16:45 < emeb> gah! relative to what? 2013-07-01T23:16:51 < R0b0t1> I know it is not precise, but is good place to start 2013-07-01T23:16:55 < R0b0t1> relative to what someone got working 2013-07-01T23:17:21 < emeb> Do you want to output stereo audio via GPIO + PWM or I2S DAC or what? 2013-07-01T23:17:32 < R0b0t1> run on 25MHz ... choppy output, run on 60MHz, minimum of smooth output, "takes 60MHz" 2013-07-01T23:17:39 < emeb> Ah OK. 2013-07-01T23:17:59 < R0b0t1> MIPS is bad to use because people think it means more than it does 2013-07-01T23:18:00 < emeb> What audio bandwidth you want? CD-quality? AM radio quality? 2013-07-01T23:18:03 < R0b0t1> anyhow, output via DAC and DMA 2013-07-01T23:18:15 < ds2> BAT quality 2013-07-01T23:18:21 < R0b0t1> Start with slightly better than AM quality 2013-07-01T23:18:51 < emeb> OK - 11kHz sample rate through the on-chip 12-bit DACs. That takes hardly anything. 2013-07-01T23:19:03 < emeb> I've done it with 24MHz VL100 parts. 2013-07-01T23:21:22 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-01T23:23:29 < qyx_> emeb: i think adl5523 will do 2013-07-01T23:23:44 < qyx_> nooo, 400MHz minimum 2013-07-01T23:24:35 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-01T23:25:35 < R0b0t1> emeb, cool 2013-07-01T23:25:42 < R0b0t1> What if I want 44kHz 2013-07-01T23:28:50 < R0b0t1> I can estimate but interested to know what else you were doing on VL100 2013-07-01T23:29:19 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-01T23:29:59 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh195149218233.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T23:46:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-01T23:50:57 < emeb> R0b0t1: I did a little audio LFO on the VL100 - 100kHz sample rate, realtime wavetable lookups. 2013-07-01T23:51:23 < emeb> There was plenty of slack in the timing - could have done more in the available cycles. 2013-07-01T23:51:46 < emeb> qyx_: what frequency ranges are you most interested in? 2013-07-01T23:52:58 < Laurenceb_> http://vimeo.com/66835961 2013-07-01T23:53:24 < qyx_> emeb: ism 434/868 2013-07-01T23:54:28 < Laurenceb_> interesting - we use that for HAB 2013-07-01T23:54:58 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-01T23:55:20 < qyx_> i know 2013-07-01T23:55:58 < Laurenceb_> what you building? 2013-07-01T23:57:31 < qyx_> just playing now 2013-07-01T23:58:35 < emeb> Laurenceb_: nice BoC video. I think I've driven through some of those areas - looks like the desert E. of Los Angeles. 2013-07-01T23:58:50 < iR0b0t1> emeb, know you of any devices with 16-bit DAC? 2013-07-01T23:58:59 < iR0b0t1> also, thanks for info 2013-07-01T23:59:37 < emeb> iR0b0t1: 16-bit DAC on-chip? Only the dsPIC has a ~16-bit audio DAC and it's really more like 14 bits when you figure in noise and INL/DNL --- Day changed Tue Jul 02 2013 2013-07-02T00:00:04 < emeb> If you want good quality audio then go for an off-chip audio DAC & I2S interface. 2013-07-02T00:00:14 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-0-209-210.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T00:01:41 < iR0b0t1> Is noise nonremediable? 2013-07-02T00:01:58 < emeb> can't fix it if it's in-band. 2013-07-02T00:02:00 < iR0b0t1> I will look into I2S though 2013-07-02T00:02:04 < iR0b0t1> What do you mean? 2013-07-02T00:02:34 < emeb> if it's audible and at the same frequency range as the material you're interested in then you can't get rid of it. 2013-07-02T00:04:33 < iR0b0t1> Ah 2013-07-02T00:04:42 < iR0b0t1> So that kind of noise is produced by chip itself? 2013-07-02T00:04:52 < emeb> generally yes. 2013-07-02T00:05:03 < iR0b0t1> Just accidental? 2013-07-02T00:05:54 < emeb> digital ICs are pretty noisy. Good quality audio requires less noise than most MCUs will naturally generate on-chip. 2013-07-02T00:06:03 < iR0b0t1> Ah 2013-07-02T00:07:12 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T00:11:12 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-0-209-210.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-02T00:20:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T00:28:36 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I am Franz.] 2013-07-02T00:34:30 < ds2> can't you chill it to reduce noise? 2013-07-02T00:35:28 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-02T00:46:11 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-02T00:47:41 < Thorn> will run at 300MHz too 2013-07-02T00:48:39 < dongs> huh, microsoft kills off technet.. da fuq 2013-07-02T00:51:29 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-02T00:57:53 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.149] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T00:57:54 <+Steffanx> Cant care less 2013-07-02T00:58:28 <+Steffanx> It's on national TV in Japan dongs? 2013-07-02T00:58:36 <+Steffanx> Must be terrible news to wake up with 2013-07-02T01:04:20 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-02T01:07:03 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.149] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T01:12:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-02T01:14:13 -!- Robint91 [~Robin@dD5776E9E.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 2013-07-02T01:14:33 < dongs> your trolling is terrible 2013-07-02T01:18:16 -!- gxti [~gxti@108-65-57-28.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T01:21:56 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-02T01:22:29 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@29.sub-75-233-6.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T01:23:04 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-02T01:32:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@147.kansas-01-03rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T01:32:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@147.kansas-01-03rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-02T01:32:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T01:34:45 <+Steffanx> i blame you dongs 2013-07-02T01:39:19 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-02T01:40:01 < gnomad> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/microsoft-killing-off-technet-subscriptions/ 2013-07-02T01:41:40 < gnomad> so, how many people here running windows are running legit licenses anyways? 2013-07-02T01:50:05 < dongs> < 2013-07-02T01:50:10 < dongs> all my windows licenses are legit. 2013-07-02T01:56:01 -!- mrcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T02:02:16 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-02T02:09:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T02:20:40 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [] 2013-07-02T02:20:57 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T02:30:44 -!- mrnuke [~mrnuke@c-76-30-38-60.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T02:30:58 -!- mrnuke [~mrnuke@c-76-30-38-60.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-02T02:44:01 < dongs> old 2013-07-02T02:44:06 < dongs> oh hello flydong 2013-07-02T02:49:31 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-02T02:54:12 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T02:54:47 < dongs> does gcc have some attribute to flag a variable so oit doesn't get init'd at reset? 2013-07-02T02:55:41 < dongs> well, never mind keil does, gcc can fuck themselves. 2013-07-02T03:04:07 < dongs> hm i guess i will need to use 2013-07-02T03:04:12 < dongs> __attribute__ ((section ("..."))) shit 2013-07-02T03:04:21 < Simon--> bcc versus data or something? 2013-07-02T03:04:25 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-02T03:04:27 < dongs> like... 2013-07-02T03:04:30 < gxti> that's up to your startup code 2013-07-02T03:04:32 < dongs> i have a static var that startup code touches 2013-07-02T03:04:33 < Simon--> does not initializing it do the same as foo = 0 now? 2013-07-02T03:04:37 < gxti> or whoever's startup code you have 2013-07-02T03:04:41 < dongs> but when I bl to _main, it gets put back to compiled value 2013-07-02T03:05:00 < dongs> _main() initializes static vars then branches to main() 2013-07-02T03:05:24 < dongs> of course I *could* just move my other shit into main() instead of startup 2013-07-02T03:05:37 < Simon--> bss 2013-07-02T03:05:46 < dongs> you think? 2013-07-02T03:05:49 < gxti> bss is reset to zero Simon-- 2013-07-02T03:06:21 < Simon--> if you declare and initialize int foo = 0, it will put it there, but if you just declare "int foo", won't it be data? 2013-07-02T03:06:46 < gxti> those are equivalent for static vars (including globals) 2013-07-02T03:07:22 < dongs> oh lemme try nonstatic 2013-07-02T03:07:29 < dongs> actually it shouldnt be static anyway, lets see 2013-07-02T03:07:32 < gxti> static vs not at global makes no difference 2013-07-02T03:07:58 < gxti> if you don't want something reset to zero you have to put it somewhere your startup won't touch 2013-07-02T03:08:12 < dongs> right, so does that mean i have to make a new section for it? 2013-07-02T03:08:16 < dongs> its just one shitty var 2013-07-02T03:08:18 < gxti> probably 2013-07-02T03:08:30 < dongs> argh 2013-07-02T03:09:04 < dongs> well , i have a general idea ho wto do that with keil 2013-07-02T03:09:06 < dongs> what bout gaycc? 2013-07-02T03:09:18 < dongs> /* Uninitialized data section */ 2013-07-02T03:09:18 < dongs> . = ALIGN(4); 2013-07-02T03:09:18 < dongs> .bss : 2013-07-02T03:09:19 < dongs> hmm 2013-07-02T03:09:27 < dongs> gcc linker script seems to imply .bss = uninitiliezd? 2013-07-02T03:09:41 < gxti> bss is zero, we've been over this 2013-07-02T03:09:57 < dongs> /* This is used by the startup in order to initialize the .bss secion */ 2013-07-02T03:09:57 < dongs> _sbss = .; /* define a global symbol at bss start */ 2013-07-02T03:09:59 < dongs> heh 2013-07-02T03:10:08 < dongs> gnu trash contradicts itself just a couple lines below 2013-07-02T03:10:37 < dongs> is there any reason I cant run flash prefetch/pll/etc shit from main()? 2013-07-02T03:10:49 < dongs> why does it have to run from reset vector/systeminit? 2013-07-02T03:10:54 < gxti> doesn't matter 2013-07-02T03:10:59 < dongs> i didnt think so 2013-07-02T03:11:07 < gxti> the cpu doesn't know the difference 2013-07-02T03:11:09 < dongs> right 2013-07-02T03:11:17 < dongs> well, ill just do that then 2013-07-02T03:11:25 < dongs> move pll init to main, and not c area bout vars 2013-07-02T03:11:36 < dongs> i need to support different hardware with either 8 or 12mhz xtal 2013-07-02T03:11:42 < dongs> so i need to hack HSE_VALUE stuff at runtime 2013-07-02T03:12:02 < gxti> i've got a project like that, haven't done it yet 2013-07-02T03:12:04 < dongs> gonna need to do some changes to stdperiphlib to make that dynamic, too :( 2013-07-02T03:12:13 < dongs> at least _rcc that I can se, maybe something in uart 2013-07-02T03:12:15 < dongs> unless it calls r cc 2013-07-02T03:12:33 < gxti> at least it's not chibios, like mine is 2013-07-02T03:12:38 < gxti> macro math out the ass 2013-07-02T03:14:57 < dongs> chibidongs 2013-07-02T03:15:43 < dongs> ok lets see 2013-07-02T03:16:48 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-02T03:16:55 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T03:17:57 < dongs> seems it boots 2013-07-02T03:20:34 < dongs> looks like all good 2013-07-02T03:20:38 < dongs> time to patch stuff for dynamic hse-value 2013-07-02T03:23:24 < dongs> works 2013-07-02T03:23:26 < dongs> uart worsk too 2013-07-02T03:23:29 < dongs> i guess it uses RCC stuff 2013-07-02T03:23:41 < dongs> RCC_GetClocksFreq or wahtever 2013-07-02T03:23:49 < dongs> /* Configure the USART Baud Rate -------------------------------------------*/ 2013-07-02T03:23:49 < dongs> RCC_GetClocksFreq(&RCC_ClocksStatus); 2013-07-02T03:23:50 < dongs> heh yep 2013-07-02T03:34:26 < Simon--> so what did you do then? 2013-07-02T03:36:35 < dongs> i moved clock init stuff out of reset vector 2013-07-02T03:36:39 < dongs> and ran it a bit later in main() 2013-07-02T03:37:03 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T03:39:26 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T03:39:47 < dongs> waiting for chianexpress to show up in 1-2 hours and start assembling failrx board 2013-07-02T03:40:05 < R2COM> which website lets upload very large pics? 2013-07-02T03:40:23 < dongs> imgur is ok, it will just resize them 2013-07-02T03:40:27 < dongs> imagebam will do non-resize 2013-07-02T03:40:30 < dongs> up to 16meg i think 2013-07-02T03:40:39 < R2COM> its 17MB and something 2013-07-02T03:40:49 < dongs> hm crap 2013-07-02T03:40:53 < dongs> iamgebam limited to 10meg now 2013-07-02T03:41:01 < dongs> haha, feature: 2013-07-02T03:41:01 < dongs> Features: 2013-07-02T03:41:02 < dongs> 10 MB File Size Limit NEW 2013-07-02T03:41:07 < dongs> "NEW" feature. 2013-07-02T03:41:31 < dongs> gay+ might be able to upload unlimited 2013-07-02T03:42:06 < dongs> http://postimage.org/ doesnt mention limits 2013-07-02T03:42:15 < dongs> but it would suck to spend 5 mins uploadinf to find out its like 2m egs 2013-07-02T03:42:40 < dongs> try it 2013-07-02T03:42:45 < dongs> doesnt mention aynthing about size limits 2013-07-02T03:43:33 < R2COM> are my boards ADULT content? 2013-07-02T03:43:38 < dongs> yes 2013-07-02T03:43:40 < R2COM> or FAMILY safe? 2013-07-02T03:44:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-02T03:44:13 < R2COM> http://postimage.org/ 2013-07-02T03:44:16 < R2COM> err 2013-07-02T03:44:22 < R2COM> FILE_SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED 2013-07-02T03:44:26 < dongs> aw fucking lame. 2013-07-02T03:44:34 < R2COM> ill remap it 2013-07-02T03:44:38 < R2COM> re-convert 2013-07-02T03:50:37 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T03:50:59 < R2COM> first some small ones 2013-07-02T03:51:00 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263157 2013-07-02T03:51:05 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263158 2013-07-02T03:52:19 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263153 2013-07-02T03:52:24 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263155 2013-07-02T03:52:29 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263156 2013-07-02T03:54:43 < dongs> ha 2013-07-02T03:54:47 < dongs> masked out topsecret stuffs 2013-07-02T03:55:21 < R2COM> its not quite *top* secret 2013-07-02T03:55:50 < R2COM> heh.. i can see a little image of my hand with camera as reflection on last one 2013-07-02T03:57:01 < R2COM> so 2013-07-02T03:57:12 < R2COM> hasl lead free, FR408, ~64mils 2013-07-02T03:57:19 < R2COM> with big 47 mil core 2013-07-02T03:57:21 < R2COM> and 4 layers 2013-07-02T03:59:45 < dongs> leadfree hasl eh 2013-07-02T03:59:53 < dongs> was this made by advanced pizza circuits or osmehin 2013-07-02T04:00:12 < R2COM> yeah similar 2013-07-02T04:00:14 < R2COM> for 1 day 2013-07-02T04:00:37 < R2COM> 4 of each boards, >2400$ 2013-07-02T04:00:44 < dongs> haha 2013-07-02T04:00:49 < dongs> my next day shit is like 600-ish 2013-07-02T04:01:01 < R2COM> on what material? 2013-07-02T04:01:25 < dongs> theer's a few available, i use non-elite standard shit. 2013-07-02T04:01:47 < R2COM> standard stuff might maybe be ok for two first boards, but I would not do last board on them 2013-07-02T04:03:15 < dongs> pfft, china makes 100A motor controllers on standard 4-6 layer FR4 2013-07-02T04:03:25 < R2COM> I know... 2013-07-02T04:03:38 < dongs> and they wrok 2013-07-02T04:03:43 < R2COM> well, its not a matter of how many A 2013-07-02T04:03:44 < dongs> so what makeas this FR408 shit special for 5A 2013-07-02T04:03:48 < R2COM> but how the power is handled 2013-07-02T04:04:04 < dongs> ya? 2013-07-02T04:04:23 < R2COM> I believe its possible to get many A, on cheap material + big heatsink 2013-07-02T04:05:02 < dongs> R2COM is a typical government employee, wasting my tax money on shit that doesnt matter :P 2013-07-02T04:05:21 < R2COM> nah... 2013-07-02T04:05:40 < R2COM> guess what 2013-07-02T04:05:55 < dongs> ya? 2013-07-02T04:06:11 < R2COM> if one would take Boeing 767, and take out *ALL* electronics, and change it to cheapo stuff you mentioned... it *will* fly 2013-07-02T04:06:18 < R2COM> so what now? 2013-07-02T04:06:51 < R2COM> I'v seen screws ,... screw... like standard one, which costs 4$k, ...one could maybe buy similar in local hardware store 2013-07-02T04:06:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-02T04:07:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T04:07:58 < R2COM> but stuff I showed anyhow, is for some tests, its not something what would be installed as a final thing... its a prototype, I might have different variants later of those 2013-07-02T04:08:15 < dongs> https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dmo7YLrfgYs ahahahahaahahahahahahhaha 2013-07-02T04:10:28 < R2COM> on the other hand, I did lots of simple things on expencive materials when I did not need them :P 2013-07-02T04:17:22 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T04:40:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-02T04:50:32 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-02T04:54:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T04:54:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-02T04:54:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T04:57:31 < dongs> wow 2013-07-02T04:57:34 < dongs> DMA on F1/F3 sucks dick 2013-07-02T04:57:41 < dongs> why the fuck they kept same retarded DMA controller on F3 2013-07-02T05:09:40 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T05:13:28 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-02T05:31:51 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-02T05:35:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T06:02:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-02T06:02:32 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T06:38:25 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@29.sub-75-233-6.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-02T07:14:17 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-02T07:48:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-02T07:52:40 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T08:29:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@130.kansas-04-05rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T08:29:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@130.kansas-04-05rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-02T08:29:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T09:00:32 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T09:06:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.231.222] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T09:06:22 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-02T09:06:47 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T09:09:47 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.239.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-02T09:16:18 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T09:23:24 < dongs> for same drawn current, lower thermal resistance of package means more or les sheat 2013-07-02T09:24:56 < jpa-> it means your heat sink will be hotter but the chip inside will be cooler :) 2013-07-02T09:25:12 < dongs> no, im not talking about heatsink/etc 2013-07-02T09:25:19 < dongs> just bare chip, same drawn current 2013-07-02T09:25:22 < jpa-> thermal resistance between what? 2013-07-02T09:25:26 < jpa-> chip to ambient? 2013-07-02T09:25:29 < dongs> thermal resistance of the case 2013-07-02T09:25:30 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-02T09:25:36 < dongs> thetaJA 2013-07-02T09:25:38 < jpa-> ok, well chip will be cooler then 2013-07-02T09:25:43 < dongs> ok, lower = cooler? 2013-07-02T09:26:02 < jpa-> yeah 2013-07-02T09:26:23 < dongs> neat 2013-07-02T09:26:28 < jpa-> just remember that it means the temperature of the junction inside the package, so sometimes the package itself may appear hotter 2013-07-02T09:27:33 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/SPX3819M5-L-3-3%2FTR/1016-1873-1-ND/3586590 so these regs are my new favorite 2013-07-02T09:27:36 < dongs> replacing RT9193 2013-07-02T09:28:36 < R2COM> my favourite is Linear Technology 2013-07-02T09:28:41 < R2COM> oh look at that 0.99$ :P 2013-07-02T09:28:43 < dongs> thats cuz youre not paying 2013-07-02T09:29:03 < emeb_mac> looks like they handle a bit more current than the MCHP ones. 2013-07-02T09:29:08 < emeb_mac> 500ma vs 200ma 2013-07-02T09:29:12 < dongs> right, that too 2013-07-02T09:29:15 < dongs> MCP1803 or wahtever 2013-07-02T09:29:18 < emeb_mac> yep 2013-07-02T09:29:23 < dongs> my "other" recommendation when RT isnt avialable 2013-07-02T09:29:27 < jpa-> not that you really can put that through at any significant voltage drop 2013-07-02T09:29:56 < dongs> emeb_mac: pin compatible as well 2013-07-02T09:30:01 < emeb_mac> w00t 2013-07-02T09:30:04 < R2COM> jebus 2013-07-02T09:30:07 < R2COM> 300vrms 2013-07-02T09:30:08 < R2COM> noice 2013-07-02T09:30:13 < R2COM> noise 2013-07-02T09:30:42 < R2COM> well I guess its ok if you are not feeding some sensitive circuitry...sure who cares 2013-07-02T09:30:42 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-02T09:30:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T09:31:06 < R2COM> and I meant uVrms of course 2013-07-02T09:32:21 < emeb_mac> I've used these recently: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/LP2985-33DBVR/296-18476-1-ND/809911 2013-07-02T09:32:34 < emeb_mac> handles a much larger voltage drop than the MCHP ones. 2013-07-02T09:32:58 < dongs> im sure i had that on my list of stuff < $usd 2013-07-02T09:33:03 < emeb_mac> (for certain values of "much") 2013-07-02T09:33:30 < dongs> hm no i didnt 2013-07-02T09:33:41 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-02T09:33:41 < dongs> it wasnt pin compatioble? 2013-07-02T09:33:42 < emeb_mac> R2COM: and 30uV noise. 2013-07-02T09:33:59 < R2COM> yeah, less current, but yes, I guess this is a good reg 2013-07-02T09:34:03 < dongs> hm, wtf 2013-07-02T09:34:06 < dongs> why wasnt that on my list of hceap shit 2013-07-02T09:35:34 < R2COM> block schematic shows they use bjt for passtransistor 2013-07-02T09:35:41 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-02T09:35:48 < emeb_mac> I use that for a low-noise analog supply running off 12V. 2013-07-02T09:35:53 < zyp> R2COM, does that matter? 2013-07-02T09:36:13 < R2COM> zyp: probably not for end user, i was just wondering myself. 2013-07-02T09:36:24 < emeb_mac> still has only .28V dropout @ full load. 2013-07-02T09:36:46 < R2COM> I did make some ldo's 2013-07-02T09:36:52 < R2COM> test ones 2013-07-02T09:37:10 < dongs> r2com makes ldos out of discreets on expensive fr4 2013-07-02T09:37:17 < R2COM> hah no.. 2013-07-02T09:37:32 < dongs> ok, on cheap fr4? 2013-07-02T09:37:46 < R2COM> it was done on ic level 2013-07-02T09:37:58 < R2COM> with mosfets only 2013-07-02T09:39:55 < dongs> crazy 2013-07-02T09:39:59 < R2COM> so 2013-07-02T09:40:02 < R2COM> 0.62^ 2013-07-02T09:40:04 < R2COM> $ 2013-07-02T09:40:07 < R2COM> 150mA 2013-07-02T09:40:11 < R2COM> and looks nice 2013-07-02T09:40:15 < R2COM> and well its TI.. 2013-07-02T09:40:54 < R2COM> and +3 ceramics 2013-07-02T09:41:06 < R2COM> (or 2 ceramics + 1 tantal if used with longer cables at power input) 2013-07-02T09:43:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T09:46:21 < R2COM> actually I'm going to try this reg for some of my test circuits soon, just curious 2013-07-02T09:55:31 < dongs> maybe ill use sipex for digital stuff and this TI shit for analog 2013-07-02T09:55:39 < dongs> asking my supplier if they have that shit 2013-07-02T09:57:25 < R2COM> the only thing is 2013-07-02T09:57:32 < R2COM> that reg doesnt have reverse battery protection 2013-07-02T09:57:48 < dongs> oh yeah, i remember reading spiex did 2013-07-02T09:57:58 < dongs> wasnt exactly a feature i was after but having it free was nice 2013-07-02T09:58:13 < R2COM> it might be not an issue for applications where supply headroom is a lot 2013-07-02T09:58:20 < R2COM> one can use diode 2013-07-02T09:58:58 < R2COM> or just use shrouded conn. ... 2013-07-02T10:01:11 < R2COM> ok I will play with that shit later 2013-07-02T10:01:12 < R2COM> sleep time 2013-07-02T10:02:13 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T10:04:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-02T10:25:32 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@210.sub-75-233-216.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T10:26:09 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-02T10:35:44 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T10:36:44 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@94.28.151.18] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T10:51:10 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-02T10:51:35 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T10:51:42 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T11:11:34 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@210.sub-75-233-216.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-02T11:14:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.231.222] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-02T11:39:56 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-02T11:41:22 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T11:48:14 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T11:49:06 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T12:49:19 < karlp> huh, "MIPS is bad to use because people think it means more than it does" <- sez the guy asking about what MHz he needs. 2013-07-02T12:50:12 < Tectu> huh 2013-07-02T12:50:19 < Tectu> ask him about DMIPS 2013-07-02T13:05:58 < karlp> anyone know why R2COM's 5A switch board: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263156 had the big stitched vertical bar under the ?connectors? on the right hand side? am I just confused by the mask/lack of mask? 2013-07-02T13:11:07 < Tectu> hmm 2013-07-02T13:11:07 < Tectu> there's definitively no electrical connection 2013-07-02T13:11:07 < Tectu> since it looks like there's mask over it 2013-07-02T13:11:07 < Tectu> but the traces lead to those ICs 2013-07-02T13:11:08 < Tectu> U3 and U4 2013-07-02T13:23:12 < dongs> karlp: its 4L 2013-07-02T13:23:24 < dongs> he's stitching the top layer to the inner gnd or maybe power rail 2013-07-02T13:29:52 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-02T13:32:23 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T13:33:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-02T13:36:42 < karlp> yeah, I couldn't see it connected to the PGND bit, or the V+ bit, so I was wondering why it laid underneath J2,J3,j4,j5 2013-07-02T13:37:01 < dongs> im sure he simulated that trace for hours 2013-07-02T13:37:09 < dongs> and its made that way perfectly 2013-07-02T13:37:19 < dongs> like the number of vias leads to perfection 2013-07-02T13:37:26 < dongs> if there was one less or more, the balance would be upset. 2013-07-02T13:38:06 < karlp> hehe 2013-07-02T13:48:11 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@87.252.130.219] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T13:58:05 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T13:59:09 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh195149218233.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-02T14:05:21 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-02T14:09:07 < karlp> wow, all those LDOs you were talking about have got way higher Iq than the microchip ones 2013-07-02T14:10:11 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T14:10:50 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@87.252.130.219] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-02T14:14:01 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh8092118140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T14:14:09 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T14:24:23 < Tectu> My eyes start bleeding when I read «Microchip» 2013-07-02T14:24:45 < karlp> your loss. 2013-07-02T14:24:53 < karlp> your prejudices will get you nowhere :) 2013-07-02T14:25:07 < Tectu> ever worked with a PIC16F or 18F? :P 2013-07-02T14:25:21 < Tectu> or read the errata of the ENC28J things? 2013-07-02T14:25:33 < karlp> so you're ignoring their entire product line? 2013-07-02T14:25:50 < Tectu> no, I am more kidding - trying to start a conversation to learn what their good products are. 2013-07-02T14:26:18 < karlp> they make some nice cheap LDOs with extremely low queiescant current 2013-07-02T14:26:32 < karlp> they also make some very cheap step up dc/dc with very low Iq too. 2013-07-02T14:26:54 < Tectu> cool 2013-07-02T14:27:21 < Tectu> I just gave the MAX766 a shot yesterday (Yes, not from microchip). 3 to 5V input, -15V output. That thing has like literally NO ripple at all. 2013-07-02T14:27:25 < Tectu> well, I used some expensive caps 2013-07-02T14:27:30 < Tectu> but still 2013-07-02T14:33:29 < dongs> lol -15V 2013-07-02T14:33:37 < dongs> sounds like useless analog faggotry 2013-07-02T14:36:00 < zyp> Tectu, no ripple at which load? 2013-07-02T14:36:34 < Tectu> zyp, just a few mA, I didn't try the full load yet 2013-07-02T14:36:36 < Tectu> I could do that... hmm 2013-07-02T14:36:38 < zyp> … 2013-07-02T14:36:42 < zyp> well, duh 2013-07-02T14:37:09 < dongs> zyp, http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39708 2013-07-02T14:38:07 < zyp> ripple is a function of switching frequency, capacitor size and load, the more load you have, the faster you drain the capacitor between charging pulses 2013-07-02T14:38:54 < zyp> dongs, hah 2013-07-02T14:40:03 < dongs> trolling got real 2013-07-02T14:40:05 < dongs> bbl bath 2013-07-02T14:41:21 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-02T14:46:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@dslb-088-069-159-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T14:46:24 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-02T14:51:03 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-02T14:53:08 < Tectu> zyp, I know 2013-07-02T14:55:20 < zyp> then why does it matter how much ripple you have when it's unloaded? :p 2013-07-02T14:56:07 < Tectu> zyp, when you'd know what unloaded ripples I have seen in my life... 2013-07-02T14:56:11 < Tectu> you wouldn't belive 2013-07-02T14:56:29 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T14:57:07 < dongs> some shit ripples more unloaded. 2013-07-02T14:57:33 < Tectu> how comes? 2013-07-02T14:57:37 < dongs> ask it 2013-07-02T14:57:51 < Tectu> don't go that road... 2013-07-02T15:01:18 < Tectu> etching a stencil... is that common? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JWUJtmgh55M#t=282s 2013-07-02T15:01:35 < dongs> yeah, ghettow ay 2013-07-02T15:01:54 < dongs> 'comparable' 2013-07-02T15:01:55 < dongs> hahaha 2013-07-02T15:05:05 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-02T15:05:21 < Tectu> do you source stencils, dongs' 2013-07-02T15:05:45 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-02T15:12:10 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T15:12:38 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-02T15:15:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T15:18:50 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T15:20:17 < dongs> what is source 2013-07-02T15:23:00 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-02T15:25:19 < jpa-> dongs: "provide" 2013-07-02T15:25:31 < jpa-> "make connection between Tectu and a stencil manufacturer" 2013-07-02T15:25:36 < dongs> no 2013-07-02T15:26:04 < Tectu> hm, is "do you source xxx" not a common english term? 2013-07-02T15:26:22 < jpa-> it's business speak :P 2013-07-02T15:28:13 < Tectu> ah 2013-07-02T15:47:16 < Tectu> I'm doing REALLY hard finding out how to properly connect a crystal to a lattice ice40 FPGA 2013-07-02T15:47:28 < dongs> try reading the manual. 2013-07-02T15:47:33 < dongs> it might not be able to take a crystal too 2013-07-02T15:47:38 < dongs> just square clock/oscillator. 2013-07-02T15:47:49 < dongs> in which case you can generally hook it up wherever, or to some specific pll inputs. 2013-07-02T15:49:14 < Tectu> aah, that's possible? Good to know, because I didn't found any reference to anything related to a crystal at all and on their very cheap dev board they just use some 1% square wave oscillator 2013-07-02T15:49:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-02T15:50:10 < dongs> likely, if it has no special pll blocks, you can just connect crystal to some global clock net (if such exists) then you can use it anywhere. 2013-07-02T15:50:20 < dongs> is itactually fpga or CPLD? 2013-07-02T15:50:27 < dongs> no idea on lattice shit I thought they were all cplds 2013-07-02T15:50:53 < dongs> The whole package in a 2.5x2.5mm BGA – It doesn't seem possible you can fit so much functionality in such a tiny 2.5x2.5mm package. But we did. 2013-07-02T15:51:14 < dongs> wow. 2013-07-02T15:51:21 < dongs> i bet their devkits/tools suck dick. 2013-07-02T15:51:46 <+Steffanx> Aren't all fpga/cpld tools far from perfect? 2013-07-02T15:51:55 < dongs> yes but non-common ones are particularly aids 2013-07-02T15:52:04 < dongs> i had the (mis)fortune of doing shit with actel stuff once 2013-07-02T15:52:06 < dongs> pure fucking aids 2013-07-02T15:52:20 < dongs> its liek a bunch of free/evaluation tools hacked together 2013-07-02T15:52:28 < dongs> none of it worked, y ou had to open like 4 different apps to get shit done 2013-07-02T15:52:34 <+Steffanx> Also the more common ones from xilinx and altera .. 2013-07-02T15:52:59 < Tectu> dongs, it's a real FPGA, no CPLD and it has two pins per side (TQFP) where you may hook up a clock 2013-07-02T15:53:07 < dongs> ok. 2013-07-02T15:53:16 < dongs> so just yeah, hookup a clock there. 2013-07-02T15:53:24 < dongs> probably no circuit for doing crystal in it. 2013-07-02T15:53:26 < Tectu> so no crystal then 2013-07-02T15:53:30 < Tectu> probably? 2013-07-02T15:53:37 < Tectu> wouldn't it be mentioned somewher? 2013-07-02T15:53:37 < dongs> duno read the manual 2013-07-02T15:53:39 < dongs> yes 2013-07-02T15:53:45 < dongs> if it says clock, that means clock. 2013-07-02T15:53:49 < dongs> from oscillator. 2013-07-02T15:53:56 < Tectu> I did and I didn't found anything, that's why I asked and now you gave me the information that it might not at all :) 2013-07-02T15:54:06 < dongs> its likely. 2013-07-02T15:54:14 < Tectu> but they just refreshed everything, their entire website, the toolchain etc. There are new documents available. I'll read through them 2013-07-02T15:54:17 < Thorn> lattice gives you synplify pro and active-hdl for free for use with their devices 2013-07-02T15:54:22 < dongs> pretty sure none (at least ones ive seen/used) xilinx shit has crystal inputs either. 2013-07-02T15:54:27 < dongs> but they all have global clock nets 2013-07-02T15:54:44 < dongs> Thorn: uh yeah sounds familiar, one of those things was in actel shit too 2013-07-02T15:54:52 < dongs> something synplify 2013-07-02T15:55:01 < Tectu> dongs, afaik altera has some crystal input (not 100% sure) 2013-07-02T15:55:14 < dongs> duno 2013-07-02T15:55:51 < Thorn> altera has clock inputs like the others afaik. can't connect a passive xtal directly 2013-07-02T15:56:45 < dongs> thats what I thought too. 2013-07-02T15:57:28 < Tectu> now they make me wait 15 minutes to get some auto generated license file. Thanks. 2013-07-02T15:58:21 < Thorn> iirc mine arrived the next day (and that was the second attempt tttoo) 2013-07-02T15:58:34 < Tectu> If you do not receive a license email within fifteen minutes then please try this process again. 2013-07-02T15:58:42 < Tectu> oh no, I forgot the quotes, NSA will git me 2013-07-02T15:58:43 < Tectu> get* 2013-07-02T15:59:13 < Tectu> Thorn, can you get more than one license? I need two 2013-07-02T15:59:40 < Thorn> dunno, read the EULA lol. 2013-07-02T15:59:53 < Tectu> EULA? what? :D 2013-07-02T16:00:22 < Thorn> or use 2 different email addresses while NSA isn't watching 2013-07-02T16:00:51 < Tectu> impossibru! 2013-07-02T16:04:00 < Tectu> http://imgur.com/a/n0Lcu 2013-07-02T16:04:58 <+Steffanx> but .. not a 3d printer! 2013-07-02T16:05:05 < Thorn> why 2 power supplies, is it a server model? 2013-07-02T16:05:24 < dongs> fuck you. 2013-07-02T16:05:31 < dongs> that is awesome. 2013-07-02T16:07:19 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@95.143.165.210] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T16:07:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar_] by ChanServ 2013-07-02T16:07:29 < Laurenceb> omg 2013-07-02T16:07:39 < Laurenceb> its awesome cuz its not a 3d printer 2013-07-02T16:07:58 < Laurenceb> heh try taking it on a plane 2013-07-02T16:08:01 < dongs> Laurenceb: haha i just said that in another channel 2013-07-02T16:09:04 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T16:10:29 -!- dekar [~dekar@dslb-088-069-159-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-02T16:10:41 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T16:10:47 < Laurenceb> how to make that project lame: put 3d printer head on it 2013-07-02T16:11:19 <+Steffanx> You're almost a captain obvious today, Laurenceb 2013-07-02T16:11:38 < Laurenceb> you mean 3d printing is obviously lame? 2013-07-02T16:11:43 < Laurenceb> whod have thunk it 2013-07-02T16:11:49 < Tectu> wtf... now they gave me a license which is linked to my NIC address and when I launch it it says I have a different one :P 2013-07-02T16:12:14 <+Steffanx> Laurenceb, the hobby bobby 3d printers are over rated, yes 2013-07-02T16:16:57 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T16:21:48 < Tectu> Thorn, did you get lattice license stuff working under linux? 2013-07-02T16:22:01 < Thorn> never tried 2013-07-02T16:23:19 < dongs> hmmm 2013-07-02T16:23:24 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?pv1291=4387&FV=fff40027%2Cfff80166&k=iCE40&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 2013-07-02T16:23:28 < dongs> no stock. 2013-07-02T16:23:58 < Tectu> I went for some iCE40HX4K TQFP-155 2013-07-02T16:24:00 < Tectu> 144* 2013-07-02T16:24:09 < dongs> I only need like 16 IOs 2013-07-02T16:24:20 < dongs> but i wouldnt mind something bigger than coolrunner-II-64 2013-07-02T16:24:22 < dongs> for code. 2013-07-02T16:24:52 < dongs> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/xc2c64a-coolrunnerii-cpld-development-board-p-800.html lol fucking pirates 2013-07-02T16:25:07 < dongs> man, that lattice shit is cheaper htan coolerunner too 2013-07-02T16:25:16 < dongs> wtf 2013-07-02T16:25:32 < dongs> but part I want isnt stocked so... 2013-07-02T16:25:34 < Tectu> yes 2013-07-02T16:25:37 < dongs> and other shit is way to oexpensive 2013-07-02T16:25:40 < Tectu> lattice has no multiplicators and shit 2013-07-02T16:25:44 < Tectu> also just one or two PLL 2013-07-02T16:26:56 < dongs> well, looks like im sticking with coolrunner then 2013-07-02T16:28:03 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T16:28:08 < Tectu> coolrunner is cpld, right? 2013-07-02T16:29:48 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-02T16:29:51 < dongs> but thats all i need 2013-07-02T16:29:57 < dongs> it just does some clock / logic conversion 2013-07-02T16:30:08 < dongs> i wouldnt mind geting some more space for free so I could do some otehr shit on it 2013-07-02T16:30:25 < dongs> but looks like lattice shit is not obtainable 2013-07-02T16:35:08 < Tectu> take a look at mouser 2013-07-02T16:35:13 < Tectu> I had to get mine there as well 2013-07-02T16:36:20 < Tectu> also note that lattice has not only the iCE40 series 2013-07-02T16:36:25 < Tectu> they have quite a lot of different ones 2013-07-02T16:38:14 < dongs> Stock: 2013-07-02T16:38:14 < dongs> 0 2013-07-02T16:38:15 < dongs> On Order: 490 View Delivery Dates 2013-07-02T16:38:18 < dongs> at least mouser has it on order. 2013-07-02T16:38:19 < Tectu> Thorn, they really throw an "Invalid host" error here :< 2013-07-02T16:38:27 < dongs> Estimated Ship Date 2013-07-02T16:38:27 < dongs> 490 9/30/2013 2013-07-02T16:44:35 < Tectu> good. 2013-07-02T16:45:24 < kfoltman> 9/30 :O 2013-07-02T16:47:57 < Tectu> 'murican date 2013-07-02T16:54:33 < dongs> fucking TI 2013-07-02T16:54:58 < dongs> they have a cheap SDI deserializer but it outputs fucking LVDS 2013-07-02T16:55:00 < dongs> what the hell! 2013-07-02T16:56:24 < dongs> also no cable driver, so thats yet another chip 2013-07-02T16:56:25 < dongs> fucking fail 2013-07-02T16:56:26 < kfoltman> Tectu: I know, but sounds like a lot of time from now 2013-07-02T16:56:32 < dongs> and gennum/semtech trash is like $100/chip 2013-07-02T16:58:35 < kfoltman> dongs: is that (LVDS use, I mean) because of data rates? 2013-07-02T16:59:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T17:00:25 < dongs> kfoltman: sure, or them wanting to attach to a real FPGA with lvds drivers 2013-07-02T17:01:20 < kfoltman> dongs: FPGA crossed my mind, especially if you want to translate it to something useful 2013-07-02T17:02:17 < dongs> kfoltman: im currently using cpld, and just forwarding the data to something else. 2013-07-02T17:02:25 < dongs> since my application is DVB-ASI, teh clocks are actually quite low. 2013-07-02T17:02:30 < dongs> i dont need 270mbit of parallel data. 2013-07-02T17:02:34 < dongs> its only like 40mbit. 2013-07-02T17:05:12 -!- rlc [63ed50cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.237.80.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T17:26:02 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-02T17:28:16 < qyx_> ok, need to shift common mode voltage 2013-07-02T17:31:38 < iR0b0t1> Tectu, I will be using lattice stuff soon 2013-07-02T17:32:36 < Tectu> iR0b0t1, what for? 2013-07-02T17:32:47 < iR0b0t1> evolvable hardware 2013-07-02T17:32:54 < iR0b0t1> I specifically chose because no macroblocks 2013-07-02T17:33:01 < iR0b0t1> iCE40 line 2013-07-02T17:34:04 < iR0b0t1> I contacted them about getting configuration bitstream format and they said yes, we'll see if they reply back 2013-07-02T17:36:15 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T17:39:12 < iR0b0t1> dongs, why you need configurable logic? 2013-07-02T17:39:27 < dongs> iR0b0t1: interface translation 2013-07-02T17:40:10 < iR0b0t1> to/from? 2013-07-02T17:40:49 < karlp> secret to sekrit 2013-07-02T17:46:18 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T17:46:18 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-02T17:46:18 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T17:46:27 < kfoltman> iR0b0t1: please put it on wikileaks ;) 2013-07-02T17:47:12 < Tectu> iR0b0t1, afaik the configuration stream is open?! 2013-07-02T17:50:12 < iR0b0t1> It is? 2013-07-02T17:50:15 < iR0b0t1> BOLLOCKS WHERE 2013-07-02T17:50:29 < Tectu> I thought I read about it in the manual 2013-07-02T17:50:43 < Tectu> but don't put anything on my words - I'm an FPGA noob. Might be that I mixed up something 2013-07-02T17:51:39 < iR0b0t1> I found detailed description of SPI interface, but that was it 2013-07-02T17:52:03 < Tectu> yes 2013-07-02T17:52:09 < Tectu> doesn't that also describe the protocol? 2013-07-02T17:52:20 < Tectu> there were flowcharts everywhere 2013-07-02T17:52:23 < Tectu> even pseudo code 2013-07-02T17:53:16 < iR0b0t1> Yeah, that's the protocol to load the configuration data 2013-07-02T17:53:24 < iR0b0t1> not the description of how that data is laid out itself 2013-07-02T17:53:37 < iR0b0t1> kfoltman, if they make me sign NDA, I will honor it, but so far no mention of any such thing 2013-07-02T17:53:44 < dongs> uh 2013-07-02T17:53:58 < dongs> why would you give a shit about configuration bistream 2013-07-02T17:54:05 < dongs> do they have something similar to xsvf player for xilinx? 2013-07-02T17:54:12 < dongs> where you can implement your own flasher on whatever hardware you watn 2013-07-02T17:54:41 < iR0b0t1> I give a shit about config stream because I wish to modify it 2013-07-02T17:55:48 < dongs> why? 2013-07-02T17:56:00 < dongs> its not necessary for proper operation of the device. 2013-07-02T17:56:25 < iR0b0t1> Easiest way to modify config programmatically is through bitstream 2013-07-02T17:56:32 < iR0b0t1> or, well, logical primitives, but I wish to control routing 2013-07-02T17:57:05 < iR0b0t1> Can you DMA to GPIO? 2013-07-02T17:59:00 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh8092118140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2013-07-02T17:59:46 < dongs> on stm32? 2013-07-02T17:59:47 < dongs> yes. 2013-07-02T18:00:12 < mervaka> holy hell 2013-07-02T18:00:17 < mervaka> that scares me :p 2013-07-02T18:00:32 < mervaka> wouldn't you need a timer or something, too? 2013-07-02T18:00:38 < dongs> DMA to gpio is actually mega awesome. 2013-07-02T18:00:47 < dongs> you could use it to get parallel stream into stuff 2013-07-02T18:00:51 < dongs> or out. 2013-07-02T18:01:07 < mervaka> yeah i realise it's awesome for parallel, but how is timing etc done? 2013-07-02T18:01:14 < dongs> i used that to do 16 uarts from a single F103 2013-07-02T18:01:44 < mervaka> :| 2013-07-02T18:01:47 < mervaka> holy hell 2013-07-02T18:01:53 < iR0b0t1> dongs, exactly what I wanted it for 2013-07-02T18:01:54 < iR0b0t1> baller 2013-07-02T18:01:59 < karlp> (they were tx only though weren't they?) 2013-07-02T18:02:03 < dongs> kfoltman: yes 2013-07-02T18:02:04 < dongs> er 2013-07-02T18:02:08 < dongs> karlp: ^ 2013-07-02T18:02:16 < iR0b0t1> >16 uart 2013-07-02T18:02:16 < iR0b0t1> lol 2013-07-02T18:03:31 < iR0b0t1> dongs, synchro method for DMA read ...? 2013-07-02T18:03:51 < dongs> read? 2013-07-02T18:03:56 < dongs> DMA puts the input in sram 2013-07-02T18:04:01 < dongs> you can trigger it off timer, sure 2013-07-02T18:04:09 < dongs> or extenral clock 2013-07-02T18:04:14 < dongs> i.e. regular parallel data + clock 2013-07-02T18:06:54 < iR0b0t1> kewl 2013-07-02T18:10:21 < qyx_> yep, thats nice 2013-07-02T18:10:27 < qyx_> also 16 pwm channels with one dma 2013-07-02T18:10:45 < qyx_> with 512B sram you can do 16x 8bit pwm 2013-07-02T18:15:20 < iR0b0t1> Yeah, wow 2013-07-02T18:15:33 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh8092118140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T18:20:19 < iR0b0t1> I can't find IO characteristics? 2013-07-02T18:20:22 < iR0b0t1> Where are they? 2013-07-02T18:23:22 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T18:23:53 < dongs> io characteristirs of waht 2013-07-02T18:26:58 < Tectu> yes 2013-07-02T18:27:46 < dongs> qyx_: whatcha gonna do with 16 pwm channels??!!! 2013-07-02T18:27:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.219.165] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T18:28:31 < qyx_> some blinky led stuff for example 2013-07-02T18:28:36 < dongs> hm 2013-07-02T18:32:20 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@94.28.151.18] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-02T18:34:46 < iR0b0t1> DMA PWM is for ricers 2013-07-02T18:35:10 < iR0b0t1> if you don't put constraints on BOM/cost every problem is really damn easy 2013-07-02T18:38:29 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T18:42:04 < Tectu> be careful what you say. 2013-07-02T18:42:09 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@28.sub-75-196-17.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T18:42:54 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-02T18:43:37 < iR0b0t1> It wasn't derogatory 2013-07-02T18:43:46 < iR0b0t1> after all, what good are your loops if they aren't funrolled? 2013-07-02T18:44:23 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-02T18:46:37 < Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiVnMazRIII 2013-07-02T18:47:31 < dongs> -O11 2013-07-02T19:06:41 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T19:07:24 < iR0b0t1> dongs: IO characteristics of GPIO 2013-07-02T19:07:31 < iR0b0t1> can't find max sink/source, rise, etc 2013-07-02T19:07:46 < iR0b0t1> not in the sheet I have anyway which is kind of odd, or just under really weird place 2013-07-02T19:10:12 < dongs> its in datasheet. 2013-07-02T19:10:24 < dongs> rise/etc depends on which drive mode you have on it 2013-07-02T19:10:28 < dongs> 2/10/50mhz on F1 etc. 2013-07-02T19:10:45 < dongs> i think max sink/source is pretty low, something around 10mA 2013-07-02T19:10:48 < dongs> i forget. 2013-07-02T19:10:55 < dongs> all this shit is in electrical stuff in datasheet 2013-07-02T19:10:57 < dongs> not reference manual 2013-07-02T19:11:49 < iR0b0t1> okay 2013-07-02T19:11:58 < iR0b0t1> yeah, well, that's the answer I needed then 2013-07-02T19:14:34 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T19:22:17 < Laurenceb> http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/07/02/1539242/neuroscientist-first-ever-human-head-transplant-is-now-possible 2013-07-02T19:22:19 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-02T19:22:32 < emeb> Meh - CooCox still doesn't support the F3 2013-07-02T19:22:34 < Laurenceb> now hackitten can finally be a girrrl 2013-07-02T19:23:03 < dongs> emeb: works for me 2013-07-02T19:23:19 < emeb> dongs: huh? how? 2013-07-02T19:23:31 < dongs> emeb: i added FP regs saving on each task switch. 2013-07-02T19:23:42 < dongs> (for keil) 2013-07-02T19:23:45 < Laurenceb> girls should watch out, hackitten will be stealing your bodies 2013-07-02T19:23:46 < dongs> im sure its just as trivial for gaycc. 2013-07-02T19:23:53 < iR0b0t1> @ head transplant 2013-07-02T19:24:10 < dongs> actually I might have done both 2013-07-02T19:24:13 < dongs> lemme check my dir with it 2013-07-02T19:24:14 < iR0b0t1> not sure how it is editorialized but if we can't even get nerve tissue to regen, dafuq 2013-07-02T19:24:25 < emeb> dongs: nah - I meant that CooCox doesn't have the any STM32F3 parts in it's libraries of "supported chips" 2013-07-02T19:24:31 < iR0b0t1> spinal cord is considered independent organ now 2013-07-02T19:24:38 < dongs> emeb: wtf is thaT? you mean thier IDE or osmehting? 2013-07-02T19:24:42 < dongs> oh, not CoOS? 2013-07-02T19:24:49 < emeb> ie - it automatically creates the project with all the right compiler settings & peripheral libs imported. 2013-07-02T19:24:55 < dongs> o rite i duno 2013-07-02T19:24:58 < dongs> i use a real IDE 2013-07-02T19:25:01 < dongs> not this freetard shit 2013-07-02T19:25:10 < dongs> though coocox is probly hte best of the freetard shit. 2013-07-02T19:25:13 < emeb> you're so pro. 2013-07-02T19:25:15 < dongs> but its still eclipse, so aids. 2013-07-02T19:25:16 < dongs> :( 2013-07-02T19:25:17 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-02T19:25:20 < Laurenceb> chibios owns 2013-07-02T19:26:42 < emeb> ya - eclipse is a pervasive nuisance. Nice thing about CoIDE is that they trimmed it down so it's less annoying. 2013-07-02T19:27:09 < Laurenceb> i can't get eclipse to play nicely on windoze :( 2013-07-02T19:27:14 < emeb> Would be nice if they'd document what's needed to add chip support though. 2013-07-02T19:27:19 < Laurenceb> wanted to get it running with f4discovery 2013-07-02T19:27:36 < emeb> I assume that it's a bunch of XML that you have to add to define the chip requirements & libraries. 2013-07-02T19:29:33 < dongs> emeb: i have one of coocox chicks on skype. 2013-07-02T19:29:35 < dongs> i can try asking. 2013-07-02T19:29:39 < dongs> if you dont figure it out. 2013-07-02T19:29:47 < Laurenceb> grilsss??? 2013-07-02T19:30:16 < Laurenceb> http://files.sharenator.com/there_are_no_girls_on_the_internet-s600x480-43842.jpg 2013-07-02T19:31:13 < Laurenceb> also - http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/025/408/girls4.jpeg 2013-07-02T19:31:18 < Laurenceb> irl lolled 2013-07-02T19:31:27 < kfoltman> "Every girls is a man, and every young girl is an FBI agent", eh? 2013-07-02T19:31:36 < kfoltman> Every *girl 2013-07-02T19:31:49 < Laurenceb> "she's hot... wait a sec" 2013-07-02T19:33:05 < emeb> and actual girls on the internet don't admit it (if they're smart) 2013-07-02T19:33:39 < kfoltman> emeb: it's hard to admit anything when you don't exist ;) 2013-07-02T19:33:44 < emeb> dongs: nah - I know that the party line on F3 support from CooCox is that they'll get around to it when they get around to it. 2013-07-02T19:34:02 < dongs> emeb: right, they're busy developing new arduino shit for their paying custoemrs. 2013-07-02T19:36:14 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-02T19:39:53 < Laurenceb> ooh nice 2013-07-02T19:39:54 < Laurenceb> http://www.roithner-laser.com/pricelist.pdf 2013-07-02T19:39:59 * Laurenceb faps furiously 2013-07-02T19:42:36 < Laurenceb> RLTCO-1064-500W, 2013-07-02T19:42:36 < Laurenceb> 1064 nm 2013-07-02T19:42:36 < Laurenceb> , 500 W cw, water-cooled, 196x125x90 mm 2013-07-02T19:42:36 < Laurenceb> 20.931,62 2013-07-02T19:44:21 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-02T19:46:11 < iR0b0t1> What in the world is it for? 2013-07-02T19:47:46 -!- UweBonnes [~bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T19:53:52 < emeb> 500W @ 1064nm? INVISIBLE DEATH RAY! 2013-07-02T19:55:13 < dongs> its like the death ray from cars2 2013-07-02T19:55:18 < dongs> makes your allinol go poof 2013-07-02T20:04:01 -!- UweBonnes [~bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [Quit: epic+tkirc2] 2013-07-02T20:10:32 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-02T20:20:31 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-02T20:35:24 -!- mattbrejza [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-02T20:35:59 -!- mattbrejza [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T20:50:30 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T20:52:16 < rlc> Is it better to source or sink a led from the microcontroller's pin? 2013-07-02T20:52:28 < dongs> sink 2013-07-02T20:53:02 < jpa-> doesn't matter much, though 2013-07-02T20:53:09 < dongs> sure it does? 2013-07-02T20:53:28 < zyp> not really 2013-07-02T20:53:43 < zyp> the current limits are about the same 2013-07-02T20:55:12 < dongs> i remember some pro EE telling me sink is better, so thats waht I do anyway. 2013-07-02T20:55:22 < dongs> since i myself lack any kinda knowledge of understanding of stuff 2013-07-02T20:55:24 < dongs> ^_^ 2013-07-02T20:55:46 < rlc> if source, I think there will be more noise on the uC vcc pin? 2013-07-02T20:55:49 < zyp> EE from the TTL-days? 2013-07-02T20:56:20 < HTT-Bird> rlc: sink is better for TTL totem poles since they can sink more than they can source 2013-07-02T20:56:41 < HTT-Bird> CMOS outputs *usually* don't give a rat's rump 2013-07-02T20:56:50 < rlc> so everyone vote for sinking? :) 2013-07-02T20:56:51 < zyp> HTT-Bird, good thing we don't do TTL nowadays :p 2013-07-02T20:57:03 < dongs> ur a totem pole 2013-07-02T20:57:09 < dongs> and its 3am, im fuckin outa here. 2013-07-02T20:57:38 < rlc> zyp: you source or sink the led? 2013-07-02T20:58:45 < zyp> depends, usually I source them 2013-07-02T20:58:56 < karlp> source! positive logic all the times! 2013-07-02T20:58:57 < dongs> wow, zyp sucks 2013-07-02T20:59:01 < dongs> 2013-07-02T20:59:34 < karlp> also, you don't get stupid shit like them being on as soon as your device powers up or some shit 2013-07-02T20:59:40 < zyp> anyway, from the f303 datasheet: max current per IO pin is 25mA both sink/source, max current for all IO pins are 75mA both sink/source 2013-07-02T21:00:14 < rlc> karlp: ah, good point! 2013-07-02T21:00:39 < zyp> so there is no real limitation that prevents you from doing either 2013-07-02T21:01:55 < iR0b0t1> So sink and source or if I sink 25 and source 25 it is 50 to thel imit? 2013-07-02T21:02:07 < rlc> dongs: you should be sourcing rather than sinking since you are dongs, not sure why you choose otherwise :P 2013-07-02T21:03:17 < zyp> iR0b0t1, 75+75=150 you mean, and yes 2013-07-02T21:03:18 < iR0b0t1> He ejaculates power into the chip 2013-07-02T21:03:24 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T21:03:39 < iR0b0t1> zyp: No I mean is 75 sink/source limit combined or for each 2013-07-02T21:04:16 < zyp> you could have some pins sinking up to 75mA at the same time other pins are sourcing up to 75mA 2013-07-02T21:04:17 < rlc> my only real concern is that maybe sourcing will add more voltage drooling on the vcc pins 2013-07-02T21:04:30 < zyp> rlc, why would it? 2013-07-02T21:05:22 < iR0b0t1> AFAIK only reason to really choose one or the other with MOSFET is sinking prevents you from ever having a short originating from your device 2013-07-02T21:05:39 < rlc> zyp: because you are pulling currents out of the decoupling caps 2013-07-02T21:06:44 < zyp> rlc, and sinking wouldn't? 2013-07-02T21:07:10 < rlc> but with sinking, you could use another supply voltage or have there own decoupling caps far away 2013-07-02T21:07:36 < rlc> but it's only my opinion 2013-07-02T21:07:42 < zyp> no 2013-07-02T21:08:16 < rlc> no what? 2013-07-02T21:08:26 < zyp> I mean, the other supply point is true 2013-07-02T21:09:13 < zyp> but it's not like your ground is a fixed reference across your board 2013-07-02T21:11:28 < zyp> whether you are pulling vcc closer to gnd or pulling gnd closer to vcc doesn't really matter when you are looking at the difference between gnd and vcc 2013-07-02T21:12:10 < rlc> i see 2013-07-02T21:13:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-02T21:33:22 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I am Franz.] 2013-07-02T21:38:20 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T21:40:25 < iR0b0t1> penis 2013-07-02T21:41:05 <+Steffanx> Wrong window 2013-07-02T21:44:47 < jpa-> waving your penis at the window is not good behaviour, no matter which window 2013-07-02T21:49:56 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@95.143.165.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-02T22:03:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.219.165] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T22:05:36 < rlc> jpa-: isn't dongs always doing it? :P 2013-07-02T22:05:44 < rlc> just that we can't see 2013-07-02T22:06:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@185.6.24.114] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T22:12:36 < iR0b0t1> He closes his blinds and stands at his window fapping 2013-07-02T22:18:45 < rlc> I'm not sure why the stm32f4 discovery has pin 99 connected to 3V when it's vss. Anyone has noticed that? 2013-07-02T22:20:04 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T22:20:36 < zyp> check the errata sheet 2013-07-02T22:21:44 < zyp> pin 99 was PDR_ON which changed functon from the first chip revision to the next 2013-07-02T22:25:43 < rlc> ah 2013-07-02T22:25:52 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T22:25:56 < rlc> how do I know what revision my chip is? 2013-07-02T22:26:49 < zyp> it's marked on it 2013-07-02T22:26:52 < zyp> either A or Z 2013-07-02T22:27:17 < zyp> on my F4 discovery, the chip has an A underneath the 0 in 407 2013-07-02T22:29:10 < rlc> ah! that's where it is. I can see it now. Thanks 2013-07-02T22:42:50 < rlc> when I add a battery on the vbat pin, should I add a cap as well for that pin, or it's not necessary? 2013-07-02T22:44:25 < iR0b0t1> zyp: What did errata mean exactly? 2013-07-02T22:44:31 < iR0b0t1> Pin changed to be VSS? 2013-07-02T22:44:35 < zyp> yep 2013-07-02T22:50:36 < iR0b0t1> Er... why? 2013-07-02T22:55:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@185.6.24.114] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-02T22:58:53 < karlp> because errrata. 2013-07-02T22:59:00 < rlc> iR0b0t1: revision change 2013-07-02T23:00:06 <+Steffanx> Will you ever grow up jpa-? 2013-07-02T23:01:16 < iR0b0t1> But 2013-07-02T23:01:19 < iR0b0t1> why get rid of GPIO 2013-07-02T23:01:20 < iR0b0t1> ._. 2013-07-02T23:01:28 < iR0b0t1> penispenispenispenispenispenispenis 2013-07-02T23:03:02 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-02T23:08:35 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:13:08 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.76.33.142] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:18:27 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:20:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:20:40 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-02T23:25:22 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:26:08 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-02T23:37:30 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@28.sub-75-196-17.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-02T23:37:59 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.229] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:38:31 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-02T23:38:50 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.229] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-02T23:42:45 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:43:49 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-02T23:48:20 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-02T23:54:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.231.222] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-02T23:55:01 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-02T23:57:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Day changed Wed Jul 03 2013 2013-07-03T00:10:02 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.76.33.142] has quit [] 2013-07-03T00:12:03 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-136-68-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T00:16:35 -!- rlc [63ed50cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.237.80.207] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-03T00:18:12 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T00:24:06 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-03T00:26:24 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T00:37:51 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-136-68-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-03T00:38:13 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-136-68-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T00:39:34 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-03T00:41:32 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-136-68-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-03T00:44:53 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-03T00:47:29 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T00:47:48 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-03T00:55:36 < Thorn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q95zRGH7Ihw 2013-07-03T00:56:39 < karlp> proton-m? 2013-07-03T00:56:42 < karlp> yep :) 2013-07-03T00:57:59 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-03T00:58:06 < karlp> wow, that's wild 2013-07-03T01:05:25 < emeb> wonder if they were able to save the payload. 2013-07-03T01:05:38 < Thorn> wat 2013-07-03T01:06:19 < emeb> did the payload blow up with the rocket or did they manage to jettison it before impact? 2013-07-03T01:06:24 < qyx_> that breaking wasn't accidental? 2013-07-03T01:06:29 < Thorn> it broke off 2013-07-03T01:07:56 < karlp> all three glonass sats bit the dirt emeb 2013-07-03T01:08:22 < karlp> in related news, the indians got a nav sat up in the air 2013-07-03T01:08:32 < ds2> long live galileo 2013-07-03T01:08:47 < Sync_> if it is going like galileo they won't have it running in 50 years 2013-07-03T01:08:47 < emeb> sadness. 2013-07-03T01:09:35 < emeb> it's a bummer when you work long/hard on a payload that ends up destroyed because the rocket went bad. 2013-07-03T01:09:43 < Sync_> oh wow shit, that proton sure wanted to go for it 2013-07-03T01:10:09 < Sync_> but well, failures can still happen to the most reliable launch vehicle 2013-07-03T01:12:37 < zyp> reminds me of my adventures in KSP 2013-07-03T01:13:14 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-03T01:16:36 < emeb> Aviation Leak chimes in: http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:04ce340e-4b63-4d23-9695-d49ab661f385&plckPostId=Blog%3A04ce340e-4b63-4d23-9695-d49ab661f385Post%3Ae0820ef8-cc64-4dbd-ae16-29a354a07e89 2013-07-03T01:16:37 <+Steffanx> Also exploding rockets incl. the satellites ? 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stm32f0. for example, SYSCFG->EXTICR[0] = (1<<4); and then attempting to read SYSCFG->EXTICR[0] returns a zero 2013-07-03T02:44:46 < zyp> like every other peripheral, SYSCFG have to be turned on in RCC ;) 2013-07-03T02:44:49 < upgrdman> shit. just realized syscfg has a clock 2013-07-03T02:44:50 < upgrdman> ya 2013-07-03T02:45:10 < upgrdman> i wouldn't have considered syscfg a periph... :) 2013-07-03T02:46:05 < upgrdman> and it only bit me in the ass when i tried to setup an exti on a PBx pin, since PAx pins don't require mod'ing the syscfg regs 2013-07-03T03:25:48 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@113.sub-75-196-36.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T03:26:24 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-03T03:28:40 -!- zippe1 [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T03:46:09 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@113.sub-75-196-36.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-03T03:46:49 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@158.sub-75-196-117.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T03:47:21 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-03T03:48:47 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T03:55:00 -!- mrcan_ [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T03:55:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T03:58:43 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-03T03:58:43 -!- CoolBear [~hightower@ti0069a380-0372.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-03T03:58:52 -!- CoolBear [~hightower@ti0069a380-0372.bb.online.no] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T03:59:28 -!- mrcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-03T04:01:07 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.142.151] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:01:25 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:04:09 -!- jef79m_ [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:05:09 -!- Blok_ [~sa@h-219-80.a357.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:06:44 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T04:10:22 -!- bsdfox\ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:10:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: englishman, jef79m, Blok, TeknoJuce 2013-07-03T04:11:20 -!- jef79m_ is now known as jef79m 2013-07-03T04:11:20 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-03T04:11:50 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T04:12:35 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-03T04:13:19 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:13:19 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffann] by ChanServ 2013-07-03T04:13:19 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:14:22 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-03T04:28:34 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:33:20 < dongs> i have 82nH chip inductor in 0603 and 82nH wirewound in 0402 2013-07-03T04:33:29 < dongs> is tehre gonna be any difference between those w 2013-07-03T04:34:55 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T04:35:06 < dongs> emeb woukd know this 2013-07-03T04:36:51 < dongs> emeb_mac: any idea. chip or wirewound 82nH inductor, are tehy gonna be ~s ame 2013-07-03T04:36:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-03T04:36:55 < dongs> argh. 2013-07-03T04:55:23 < gxti> what does it do? 2013-07-03T04:56:13 < dongs> i duno 2013-07-03T04:56:24 < dongs> its in teh circuit 2013-07-03T04:56:41 < gxti> power? filtering? rf? 2013-07-03T04:56:45 < dongs> rf 2013-07-03T04:57:08 < gxti> probably works "okay" but not to spec then 2013-07-03T04:57:39 < gxti> different parasitics 2013-07-03T05:55:43 < dongs> sweet 2013-07-03T05:55:44 < dongs> got my sample book 2013-07-03T06:01:08 < dongs> k, failrx parts are here 2013-07-03T06:01:10 < dongs> time to see the fail 2013-07-03T06:01:51 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-03T06:02:00 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T06:10:48 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-03T06:31:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-03T06:36:11 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-03T06:38:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T06:40:10 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T06:42:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T06:42:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-03T06:42:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T06:58:26 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@158.sub-75-196-117.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-03T07:01:06 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-03T07:01:54 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T07:03:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T07:10:18 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Brand-New-0-99999-9-6-knob-PRECISION-VARIABLE-DECADE-RESISTOR-DC-RESISTOR-BOX/494788129.html 2013-07-03T07:10:21 < dongs> wtf is this 2013-07-03T07:12:54 < dongs> oven time 2013-07-03T07:12:58 < dongs> damn, it took 1 hour to hand place that shit 2013-07-03T07:12:59 < dongs> rage. 2013-07-03T07:13:25 < emeb_mac> that is an awesomely retro piece of test equipment! 2013-07-03T07:15:34 < dongs> apparently theres a lot of those 2013-07-03T07:15:43 < dongs> http://mcpsh.en.alibaba.com/product/287235867-212407379/DBR_07_RESISTOR_BOX.html 2013-07-03T07:15:44 < dongs> etc 2013-07-03T07:15:48 < dongs> is there any actual use for these? 2013-07-03T07:15:52 < dongs> area tehy super precision or something? 2013-07-03T07:15:57 < emeb_mac> not really 2013-07-03T07:16:07 < emeb_mac> they used to be common in breadboarding 2013-07-03T07:16:17 < dongs> 2.2kg weight, haha 2013-07-03T07:16:19 < emeb_mac> hook that up in place of swapping out fixed resistors 2013-07-03T07:16:20 < dongs> for the last one i linked 2013-07-03T07:16:34 < dongs> emeb_mac: i wonder if a digital version would sell 2013-07-03T07:16:38 < dongs> to MAKE:R faggots 2013-07-03T07:16:40 < dongs> use a digital pot 2013-07-03T07:16:44 < dongs> and a 7seg 2013-07-03T07:16:49 < dongs> and a couple buttons to set R 2013-07-03T07:17:13 < emeb_mac> eh - those things go back long before Makers. 2013-07-03T07:17:22 < emeb_mac> more like 1920s or something. 2013-07-03T07:17:26 < dongs> yea but im talkin about current generation of maker faggots. 2013-07-03T07:17:38 < emeb_mac> hipsters love the retro 2013-07-03T07:17:39 < dongs> who think cutting a video cable on gopro in half is "hacking" 2013-07-03T07:17:46 < dongs> 7seg is retro right 2013-07-03T07:17:54 < dongs> ok, replace 7 sliders with one knob w/pushbutton 2013-07-03T07:17:57 < dongs> use it in encoder mode 2013-07-03T07:18:00 < dongs> push to change digit 2013-07-03T07:18:48 < dongs> rf failboard baking 2013-07-03T07:18:53 < dongs> reflow just hit max temp 2013-07-03T07:21:25 < dongs> beep beep 2013-07-03T07:23:51 < dongs> imgur is failing agian, of course 2013-07-03T07:28:52 -!- Count_Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T07:29:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T07:30:16 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/8WKL8Yx.jpg lets see if its alive 2013-07-03T07:31:20 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-03T07:35:19 < dongs> voltages all good 2013-07-03T07:36:50 < emeb_mac> will it blend? 2013-07-03T07:36:55 < dongs> demod is alive 2013-07-03T07:37:07 < dongs> looks like im good to go, gonna solder up rf in and start on driver 2013-07-03T07:41:18 < emeb_mac> more video stuff? 2013-07-03T07:41:25 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.209.125] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T07:44:38 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T07:45:18 < dongs> ya 2013-07-03T07:45:23 < dongs> R2COM: http://i.imgur.com/8WKL8Yx.jpg 2013-07-03T07:46:41 < R2COM> good 2013-07-03T07:48:35 < R2COM> I am glad you red-out the text on IC, or I'd go ahead and copy design. 2013-07-03T07:51:03 < upgrdman> lol ya 2013-07-03T07:52:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-03T07:55:35 < dongs> i kno rite 2013-07-03T07:56:12 < dongs> its a custom chip anyway, and i have the last 60k 2013-07-03T07:56:36 < emeb_mac> 60k - that's a bunch 2013-07-03T07:56:52 < dongs> yeah. the boxes take up a bit of space. 2013-07-03T08:01:08 < R0b0t1> What does it do? 2013-07-03T08:01:26 < emeb_mac> takes up space 2013-07-03T08:01:31 < R0b0t1> The whole board, at least 2013-07-03T08:01:43 < emeb_mac> and consumes power 2013-07-03T08:03:26 < dongs> ^ 2013-07-03T08:26:23 < jpa-> radiates EMI :) 2013-07-03T08:26:58 < dongs> the voltages came out prety good 2013-07-03T08:27:01 < dongs> only 2.8 is 2.9 2013-07-03T08:27:08 < dongs> rest is spot on 2013-07-03T08:27:23 < dongs> but 2.9 is within spec so its fine 2013-07-03T08:49:54 < jpa-> bah i guess it was a bad idea to mount that socket on the copper side http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/pix/connector.jpg 2013-07-03T08:50:55 < dongs> wtf is taht 2013-07-03T08:51:22 < jpa-> my (ex-)swd connector 2013-07-03T08:52:12 < emeb_mac> pulled up the traces? 2013-07-03T08:53:01 < dongs> is dat some fuckin homebrew pcb 2013-07-03T08:53:26 < jpa-> emeb_mac: indeed 2013-07-03T08:53:29 < jpa-> dongs: indeed 2013-07-03T08:54:04 < dongs> i can get a proper pcb next day if I really want to 2013-07-03T08:54:05 < jpa-> chinapcbs take a month to arrive, so i still do homebrew pcb's for simple things 2013-07-03T08:54:08 < emeb_mac> looks like it pulled the plated-thru holes right out of the board 2013-07-03T08:54:13 < dongs> theres no way i would ever bother home etching/milling 2013-07-03T08:54:18 < jpa-> emeb_mac: no plating through 2013-07-03T08:54:26 < emeb_mac> ah - that explains it 2013-07-03T08:54:30 < jpa-> yes 2013-07-03T08:54:47 < emeb_mac> double sided? 2013-07-03T08:54:54 < jpa-> dongs: but you are in china, here if i want pcb's delivered the next day, it costs 100 EUR per board 2013-07-03T08:55:06 < dongs> im not in china, thgat place sucks 2013-07-03T08:55:07 < jpa-> emeb_mac: second side is solid ground plane 2013-07-03T08:55:11 < jpa-> japan 2013-07-03T08:55:13 < jpa-> whatever 2013-07-03T08:55:16 < jpa-> same country :) 2013-07-03T08:55:22 < dongs> 100 eur for next day is not bad. 2013-07-03T08:55:28 < emeb_mac> jpa-: should have at least put annulus on the other side to solder to. 2013-07-03T08:55:44 < jpa-> emeb_mac: well i don't etch the second side 2013-07-03T08:56:01 < emeb_mac> ah 2013-07-03T08:56:06 < jpa-> bigger pads on this side would have helped some also.. or just a drop of epoxy, for that matter 2013-07-03T08:56:21 < emeb_mac> I've seen cutter bits that will cut an annulus 2013-07-03T08:56:34 < jpa-> hm yeah 2013-07-03T08:56:38 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T08:56:47 < jpa-> that is not a pad idea 2013-07-03T08:57:02 < emeb_mac> little hand-held tool. looks like an awl or screwdriver 2013-07-03T08:57:25 < emeb_mac> center it in the hole, spin a few times. bingo - back-side pad. 2013-07-03T08:58:26 < emeb_mac> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCB-PAD-CUTTER-MANHATTEN-ISLAND-DIAMOND-DRILL-12mm-PCB-GLASS-CERAMICS-/290863655504?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43b8d32a50 2013-07-03T09:01:43 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-03T09:02:23 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-03T09:02:25 < R2COM> fuck that shit 2013-07-03T09:04:09 -!- dongs [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-03T09:05:07 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.232.12] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T09:05:10 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar_] by ChanServ 2013-07-03T09:05:50 < emeb_mac> I don't care for home-made PCBs 2013-07-03T09:05:56 < emeb_mac> nasssty chemicals 2013-07-03T09:07:02 < jpa-> not any nastier than required for painting etc. 2013-07-03T09:08:22 < emeb_mac> don't do that either. :) 2013-07-03T09:08:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.231.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-03T09:23:27 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-03T09:23:45 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T09:25:03 -!- bsdfox\ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-03T09:33:14 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T09:34:12 < Tectu> lol 2013-07-03T09:35:49 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-03T09:43:32 < Tectu> http://hackaday.com/2013/07/02/family-pulls-together-to-build-dads-casket/ 2013-07-03T09:44:01 < emeb_mac> weird 2013-07-03T09:45:23 < Tectu> totally 2013-07-03T09:46:10 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T09:48:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-03T09:50:42 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.209.125] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-03T09:52:57 < dongie> what hte fuck 2013-07-03T09:53:05 < dongie> how is that news 2013-07-03T09:53:05 < dongie> or hackj 2013-07-03T09:54:23 -!- dongs [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T09:56:46 < dongs> chat test 2013-07-03T10:01:19 < Tectu> chat test passed 2013-07-03T10:05:46 < dongs> I think i got PRISM'd 2013-07-03T10:06:29 < Tectu> how comes? 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2013-07-03T13:57:47 < dongs> 1.2..? 2013-07-03T13:58:11 < dongs> acutally i might have used that for 1.2 2013-07-03T13:58:12 < dongs> he 2013-07-03T13:58:22 < dongs> lets see 2013-07-03T13:58:35 < dongs> yep 2013-07-03T13:58:41 < dongs> 100R/4.99R 2013-07-03T13:58:50 < dongs> gets ~1.2xV out 2013-07-03T14:00:26 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:03:14 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:04:25 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-03T14:04:58 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2013-07-03T14:06:53 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:08:29 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2013-07-03T14:10:22 -!- Guest43164 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:17:23 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:30:39 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:33:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T14:43:06 < dongs> woot 2013-07-03T14:43:08 < dongs> i haz tune 2013-07-03T14:43:12 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/hdWMoSH.png 2013-07-03T14:43:59 < zyp> what's that supposed to be? 2013-07-03T14:44:04 <+Steffann> Some waves :) 2013-07-03T14:44:48 < zyp> looks like a FM signal 2013-07-03T14:45:48 < jpa-> or spread spectrum clock signal 2013-07-03T14:45:55 < jpa-> (which is basically FM anyway) 2013-07-03T14:46:43 < dongs> zyp: quadrature crap from tuner 2013-07-03T14:46:47 < dongs> I/Q oir whatever 2013-07-03T14:47:07 <+Steffann> You really use too much crap dongs. 2013-07-03T14:47:42 < Tectu> s/crap/stuff/g 2013-07-03T14:47:53 < dongs> ^ lunix fgt 2013-07-03T14:57:14 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2013-07-03T14:59:25 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.232.12] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-03T14:59:38 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:06:03 -!- Guest43164 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-03T15:06:45 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:22:47 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:25:40 < dongs> http://www.goodluckbuy.com/electronic-diy-kit-smd-components-solder-practice-plate-for-training-w-8-catagories-components.html 2013-07-03T15:25:43 < dongs> buying 2013-07-03T15:36:42 < zyp> for your kids? 2013-07-03T15:39:58 < kfoltman> dongs: I don't know the seller, but I've been looking for something like that for weeks 2013-07-03T15:40:49 < kfoltman> found some elsewhere, but out of stock or weird places 2013-07-03T15:42:09 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-03T15:42:43 < Thorn> what's the point if the assembled board isn't going to do anything 2013-07-03T15:42:45 < dongs> kfoltman: goodluckbuy is fairly legit 2013-07-03T15:42:58 < dongs> plus you can always shitpal dispute if stuff odenst show up 2013-07-03T15:43:11 < dongs> they might also have same shit on ebay 2013-07-03T15:43:22 < kfoltman> Thorn: it's kinda better if you expect to fuck up first 30 times 2013-07-03T15:43:34 < kfoltman> which is pretty much guaranteed in my case 2013-07-03T15:43:48 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/321142363742 ships from USA version 2013-07-03T15:43:55 < Thorn> why not at least some cheap microcontroller breakout with some LEDs 2013-07-03T15:44:09 < Thorn> so you can program it and it will blink if you do it right 2013-07-03T15:44:17 < kfoltman> Thorn: I already have an FPGA board I want to solder, but wanted to practice on something disposable first 2013-07-03T15:45:14 < Thorn> you can get 10x lpc1xx or something for a fairly disposable price 2013-07-03T15:45:16 < kfoltman> dongs: yes, seen that, but I'm in EU... I'll try my luck with good luck then 2013-07-03T15:45:40 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:46:24 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:46:53 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:50:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-03T15:53:43 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:53:49 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-03T15:53:49 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:53:49 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-03T15:53:49 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T15:55:55 < Laurenceb> http://regmedia.co.uk/2013/07/03/snowden.jpg 2013-07-03T15:55:57 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-03T15:56:30 < dongs> too small pic 2013-07-03T15:59:00 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/xu-ji/assembly_chess/blob/master/programs/chess.s 2013-07-03T15:59:02 < Laurenceb> omfg 2013-07-03T15:59:06 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.134] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T16:00:58 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-03T16:06:17 < baird> pffft. The KIM-1 had a 1kB Chess program. http://www.benlo.com/microchess/ .. http://www.benlo.com/microchess/hexdump.gif 2013-07-03T16:14:21 < baird> In 2nd year, I had a assembler programming course that's final assignment was writing a calendar generator for any given year. 2013-07-03T16:16:48 < baird> Aha! Found it! http://kildall.apana.org.au/~cjb/comp203-final-assignment.mac 2013-07-03T16:25:18 < PaulFertser> What cpu was that? 2013-07-03T16:27:11 < baird> DEC VAX ..the one that add quadratic polynomial FPU instructions. :P 2013-07-03T16:27:57 < baird> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vax#Processor_architecture 2013-07-03T16:28:22 < jef79m> baird you went to newcastle uni about 10 years before me. 2013-07-03T16:30:32 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-03T16:35:17 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T16:35:21 < baird> jef79m: I was enrolled briefly during 2001 as well.. 2013-07-03T16:35:34 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T16:36:27 < jef79m> i was there in 97, 98 and sporadically in 99 before giving in to full time employment. 2013-07-03T16:37:02 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.209.125] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 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F4 2013-07-03T17:43:49 < Laurenceb> looks pretty doable from those figures 2013-07-03T17:44:06 < Laurenceb> using Wiener-Khinchin 2013-07-03T17:46:30 < Laurenceb> http://www.iar.com/Global/Resources/Developers_Toolbox/Building_and_debugging/Designing_advanced_DSP_applications_on_the_Kinetis_ARM_Cortex-M4_MCU_part1.pdf 2013-07-03T17:46:43 < Laurenceb> yeah doable on F4 with 1024 point fft 2013-07-03T17:46:46 < dongs> Laurenceb: "DSP" library in cmsis is just obvious shit with zero asm optimizations 2013-07-03T17:46:51 < dongs> if you use a real compiler its ok 2013-07-03T17:46:55 < dongs> if you use gcc its just... that. 2013-07-03T17:47:06 < Laurenceb> well fft is easy 2013-07-03T17:47:10 < Laurenceb> but im lazy 2013-07-03T17:47:10 < dongs> sure 2013-07-03T17:47:21 < Laurenceb> i onse wrote fft in basic on ti83+ 2013-07-03T17:48:13 < jpa-> i guess one could get a small speed boost by using the SIMD instructions 2013-07-03T17:48:24 < Laurenceb> more than a small one :P 2013-07-03T17:48:32 < Laurenceb> and with inlining too 2013-07-03T17:48:56 < Laurenceb> yeah that IAR thing is probably using generic fft routine 2013-07-03T17:49:06 < Laurenceb> and its still easily fast enough for 1Msps 2013-07-03T17:49:53 < Laurenceb> I'm trying to do this http://www.physics.upenn.edu/yodhlab/papers/2011/Handbook_Biomedical_Optics_chpt10.pdf 2013-07-03T17:49:57 < Laurenceb> page 200 2013-07-03T17:50:22 < Laurenceb> in which case the kit on page 201 can be replaced by an F4 :P 2013-07-03T17:51:12 < Laurenceb> resulting in a _slight_ size, power, and cost reduction 2013-07-03T17:57:29 < dongs> hmmm 2013-07-03T17:59:24 <+Steffanx> lol Laurenceb :) 2013-07-03T18:04:36 < Laurenceb> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB/ <- wonder if it actually works 2013-07-03T18:05:05 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-03T18:05:28 <+Steffanx> trial and error 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I would use discovery board top but would prefer complete unit 2013-07-03T22:05:55 < Thorn> design a BMP clone like everybode else in here 2013-07-03T22:06:01 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-03T22:07:01 <+Steffanx> Some still use the original one :) 2013-07-03T22:07:02 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-03T22:07:26 <+Steffanx> Yours works now Thorn? 2013-07-03T22:07:49 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.134] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:08:54 < Thorn> it does (except my attempt at adding lpc17xx support failed and I have no time to keep working on it currently) 2013-07-03T22:09:31 < iR0b0t1> $60 2013-07-03T22:09:32 < iR0b0t1> so tiny 2013-07-03T22:10:27 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-03T22:13:46 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.167] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:14:32 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-38-123.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:15:28 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-03T22:17:48 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.132] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:19:40 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-03T22:21:19 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.132] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:23:52 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-03T22:24:12 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:40:06 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:41:09 < Tectu> iR0b0t1, ask dongs, he's the guy who sources us with all the BMPs 2013-07-03T22:41:30 < iR0b0t1> Oh masterful penis lord dongs 2013-07-03T22:41:46 < iR0b0t1> What is this BMP sourceage which Tectu speaks of 2013-07-03T22:41:49 < iR0b0t1> ? 2013-07-03T22:42:04 < Tectu> well, someone has to build a BMP, no? 2013-07-03T22:42:19 < Tectu> it's either yourself or you let someone else do it for you and ship it to you 2013-07-03T22:43:03 < iR0b0t1> Well, yeah 2013-07-03T22:43:16 < iR0b0t1> http://www.coocox.org/CoLinkGuide/Buy_Colink.htm 2013-07-03T22:43:40 < iR0b0t1> Supports device I need. This is for work, I may just get them to buy completed one from black sphere 2013-07-03T22:44:05 < iR0b0t1> I might patronize the penis lord personally, in my free time. 2013-07-03T22:44:21 < Tectu> feel free, he's a nie man 2013-07-03T22:44:24 < Tectu> nice* 2013-07-03T22:51:13 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@184.sub-75-233-11.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T22:51:50 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-03T22:54:55 < iR0b0t1> Well, considering I have to order it now, should I get BMP or ST-Link V2? 2013-07-03T22:55:04 < iR0b0t1> I doubt I could get PO approved to dongs, haha. 2013-07-03T22:56:29 <+Steffanx> Then don't and get a random one 2013-07-03T22:57:11 <+Steffanx> or dont get it from him. 2013-07-03T22:57:45 <+Steffanx> I bet a random commercial one will work just as well. As long it's supported by the tools you use 2013-07-03T22:59:42 <+Steffanx> I'm not sure which commercial one people use here. ulink? 2013-07-03T23:05:27 < iR0b0t1> Looked up ulink 2013-07-03T23:05:32 < iR0b0t1> I see "request quote buttons" 2013-07-03T23:05:40 < iR0b0t1> I can't talk 'em into spending $2k 2013-07-03T23:05:50 < iR0b0t1> Does openocd support BMP? 2013-07-03T23:06:00 < jpa-> you don't need openocd with BMP 2013-07-03T23:06:05 < iR0b0t1> BMP looks better based on the bit of research I did 2013-07-03T23:06:17 < iR0b0t1> jpa-, explain usage then? I must've missed it 2013-07-03T23:06:20 < iR0b0t1> comes with driver but 2013-07-03T23:06:28 < jpa-> iR0b0t1: it appears directly as a gdb server 2013-07-03T23:06:38 < jpa-> target remote /dev/ttyACM0 2013-07-03T23:06:52 < jpa-> or something like that 2013-07-03T23:07:13 < iR0b0t1> :oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 2013-07-03T23:08:01 < iR0b0t1> ah GNU remote interface 2013-07-03T23:08:02 < iR0b0t1> okay 2013-07-03T23:08:06 < iR0b0t1> that's pretty baller 2013-07-03T23:08:22 < iR0b0t1> openocd starts a GDB interfacel locally, wrapping driver access 2013-07-03T23:08:51 <+Steffanx> ulink clones are cheap iR0b0t1 :) 2013-07-03T23:09:33 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T23:09:40 <+Steffanx> but.. commercial, so i dont know much about the support 2013-07-03T23:24:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T23:27:22 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-03T23:29:38 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.232.12] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T23:29:41 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar_] by ChanServ 2013-07-03T23:33:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.232.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-03T23:33:47 -!- xpg [~pf@2001:16d8:ddaa:1:bd55:dd34:4257:a1f8] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T23:37:57 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Ranewen, os-app92 2013-07-03T23:42:03 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-03T23:42:03 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-38-123.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu Jul 04 2013 2013-07-04T00:00:15 -!- rlc [63ed50cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.237.80.207] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-04T00:04:47 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I am Franz.] 2013-07-04T00:06:57 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-04T00:19:32 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-04T00:20:09 -!- Laurence2 [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T00:28:08 < jpa-> how come we never see LaurenceA or Laurence1? 2013-07-04T00:28:20 -!- xpg [~pf@2001:16d8:ddaa:1:bd55:dd34:4257:a1f8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-04T00:31:29 <+Steffanx> Don't you have more important things to care about jpa-? 2013-07-04T00:32:13 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-04T00:43:04 -!- Laurence2 is now known as Laurenceb_ 2013-07-04T00:45:43 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.132] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 2013-07-04T01:13:24 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@182.sub-75-244-172.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T01:14:38 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest16491 2013-07-04T01:14:46 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-04T01:15:35 -!- Guest16491 [~bjfree@184.sub-75-233-11.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-04T01:17:25 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [] 2013-07-04T01:19:54 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-38-123.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-04T01:27:30 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@182.sub-75-244-172.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-04T01:33:10 -!- caddyshack [~zool@16.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T01:34:24 < caddyshack> hi 2013-07-04T01:34:55 < caddyshack> how can I move a data section into ram? 2013-07-04T01:35:57 < zyp> please clarify 2013-07-04T01:36:28 < caddyshack> lets say I but it into the RAM section, then it wont get programmed into flash and I cannot copy any data 2013-07-04T01:37:00 < caddyshack> if I put the .data section into flash, all references will be flash addresses (but I want ram addresses) 2013-07-04T01:37:19 < zyp> are you writing your own linker script? 2013-07-04T01:37:33 < caddyshack> well, more or less 2013-07-04T01:37:51 < zyp> ok, that's easy enough 2013-07-04T01:37:58 < zyp> you set LMA to flash and VMA to ram 2013-07-04T01:37:59 < caddyshack> I basically took some .ld from the stm32 std library 2013-07-04T01:38:32 < caddyshack> okay, maybe I can paste it 2013-07-04T01:38:33 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/ld_scripts/arm_flash_ram.ld <- here's my linker script, see line 66 2013-07-04T01:38:44 < caddyshack> okay, thanks 2013-07-04T01:39:19 < zyp> the linker script also provides the symbols _data_rom, _data_start and _data_end, which is used by the startup code to copy the initial contents from flash to ram 2013-07-04T01:39:53 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/startup/entry.cpp <- the copy routine is the loop at line 28 2013-07-04T01:40:22 < caddyshack> yes, I used the "startup_stm32f10x_md.s" 2013-07-04T01:40:36 < caddyshack> thanks a lot 2013-07-04T01:40:38 < caddyshack> ! 2013-07-04T01:41:36 < zyp> writing it in assembly is not required, the hardware will set up the stack pointer at reset, so it's ready to execute C code right out of reset 2013-07-04T01:47:50 < caddyshack> now it tells me that the data section overflows by some # bytes 2013-07-04T01:48:38 < caddyshack> ld: "stm32_flash.ld:128: section has both a load address and a load region", "test.elf section `.data' will not fit in region `FLASH'", " region `FLASH' overflowed by -134348680 bytes" 2013-07-04T01:49:21 < caddyshack> btw, here is my linker script and the crt0: http://pastebin.com/Shxw9hqY 2013-07-04T01:50:08 < caddyshack> i modified the line" > RAM AT > FLASH" at the end of the ".data" section 2013-07-04T01:50:56 < caddyshack> and changed "_sidata = .;" to "PROVIDE(_sidata = .);" 2013-07-04T01:54:07 < caddyshack> okay, I had to remove the "AT (_sidata)" 2013-07-04T01:55:17 < caddyshack> no success yet 2013-07-04T02:00:55 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T02:08:28 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@2.94.58.15] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T02:08:28 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@2.94.58.15] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-04T02:08:28 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T02:11:00 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T02:12:43 < caddyshack> okay, in the map file it looks good, in the elf file the load address (flash address) of the data section is not within any section (readelf) and in the disasm _sidata (_rom_data) is 0x50 ? 2013-07-04T02:22:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T02:22:56 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-04T02:28:13 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2013-07-04T02:43:28 -!- ABLomas [~abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-04T02:43:55 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T02:44:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T02:47:49 -!- ABLomas [~abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T02:51:12 < caddyshack> zyp, are you still there? 2013-07-04T02:52:33 < caddyshack> I made some progress, but in the elf file (and derived files) I cannot find the section where the "rom_data" is stored 2013-07-04T02:55:56 < dongs> sup chats 2013-07-04T02:56:14 < caddyshack> alright, I have it 2013-07-04T02:57:28 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-04T02:58:52 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-04T03:03:02 <+dekar_> caddyshack, https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT_Example/blob/master/linker_script/simple.ld 2013-07-04T03:05:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T03:07:10 < caddyshack> dekar_, thank you 2013-07-04T03:07:23 < caddyshack> I finally got it working 2013-07-04T03:07:47 < caddyshack> I forgot to include the data section via "-j .data" 2013-07-04T03:07:55 < caddyshack> ;-) 2013-07-04T03:52:34 < caddyshack> thanks guys! 2013-07-04T03:52:38 -!- caddyshack [~zool@16.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has left ##stm32 ["Ex-Chat"] 2013-07-04T03:59:01 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-04T04:04:43 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-04T04:08:39 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T04:11:43 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T04:44:00 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T04:45:57 < dongs> power supply is here 2013-07-04T05:00:54 < upgrdman> what specs 2013-07-04T05:02:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-04T05:07:53 < dongs> 0-60V 0-30A cv/cc 2013-07-04T05:24:09 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/gygr3Ov.jpg 2013-07-04T05:26:12 < gxti> impressive 2013-07-04T05:31:30 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@236.sub-75-233-4.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T05:32:28 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-04T05:41:22 < upgrdman> it would be awesome if you opened up the case and just found an LM317 and some lead weight. 2013-07-04T05:47:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T06:06:48 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-04T06:13:34 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T06:18:07 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T06:27:53 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@drupal.org/user/72475/view] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-04T06:28:40 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T06:29:43 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@27.sub-75-244-153.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T06:30:22 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest17598 2013-07-04T06:30:29 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-04T06:30:52 -!- Guest17598 [~bjfree@236.sub-75-233-4.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-04T06:52:08 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@27.sub-75-244-153.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-04T06:56:13 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@151.sub-75-233-114.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T06:57:05 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-04T06:58:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-04T06:58:22 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T07:10:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T07:11:49 < R0b0t1> Seems like all cortex thrown into here 2013-07-04T07:12:04 < R0b0t1> so, anyone use lpc? What is that NXP? 2013-07-04T07:14:33 < dongs> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.texas-instruments.msp430.discuss/45376 2013-07-04T07:36:39 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@151.sub-75-233-114.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-04T08:07:26 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T08:09:43 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-04T08:09:44 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-04T08:11:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T08:11:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-04T08:11:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T08:13:19 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 2013-07-04T08:27:38 < emeb_mac> anyone ever used the full-duplex I2S on an F303? 2013-07-04T08:29:21 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.167] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T08:29:57 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T08:34:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T08:58:01 < emeb_mac> Ever hear of Verical? Looks like they have much better prices on STM32 than DK or Mouser. 2013-07-04T08:58:29 < emeb_mac> downside is minimum qtys > 10pcs 2013-07-04T09:00:10 < dongs> yes 2013-07-04T09:00:13 < dongs> ive bought from them 2013-07-04T09:00:22 < dongs> the other downside is per-line order fee 2013-07-04T09:00:26 < dongs> that you see on checkout 2013-07-04T09:00:29 < dongs> what do you need from them? 2013-07-04T09:03:55 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@212.255.238.80] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T09:03:57 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar__] by ChanServ 2013-07-04T09:05:30 < emeb_mac> don't need anything from them 2013-07-04T09:05:49 < emeb_mac> but a client is buying F303 from them. 2013-07-04T09:06:45 < dongs> ah 2013-07-04T09:06:48 < dongs> well, make them pay. 2013-07-04T09:07:04 < dongs> if its only one thing you get its not bad 2013-07-04T09:07:11 < dongs> its something like 10-15$ per line item for handling fee 2013-07-04T09:07:18 < dongs> so if youre ordering like 10 things its kinda gay 2013-07-04T09:07:28 < dongs> but if you only need one specific thing, they have it, and the MOQ is reasonable, then its fine. 2013-07-04T09:07:57 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.232.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-04T09:08:28 < emeb_mac> yeah - I think he's just buying one thing from them, and probably a fair qty (like 100s) 2013-07-04T09:08:59 < dongs> i seems reasonable pric-e-wise 2013-07-04T09:09:03 < emeb_mac> ya 2013-07-04T09:09:17 < emeb_mac> almost as good as that china deal you got last year. 2013-07-04T09:09:36 < dongs> I got a good deal on some obscure gennum shit there 2013-07-04T09:09:54 < dongs> when the only other way would have bene ordering from arrowusa or somethign wiht thier idiotic $90 fedex shipping 2013-07-04T09:10:03 < emeb_mac> meh 2013-07-04T09:10:11 < emeb_mac> shipping is nuts these days 2013-07-04T09:10:54 < emeb_mac> a client wanted to RMA a bad FPGA devboard to Altera. The wanted him to ship it to Taiwan via FedEx for $250. 2013-07-04T09:11:43 < dongs> its all teh fuel surcharge trollin 2013-07-04T09:12:19 < emeb_mac> bullshit trollin 2013-07-04T09:13:39 < emeb_mac> gonna give MDK-ARM free trial a try tomorrow 2013-07-04T09:14:22 < emeb_mac> since CooCox doesn't officially support F303 2013-07-04T09:15:13 < emeb_mac> some dude on the CooCox forum has a hacked up F303 project that I might be able to get working but it seems shaky 2013-07-04T09:18:56 < emeb_mac> (every time I see MDK I think "Murder Death Kill" from Demolition Man. 2013-07-04T09:22:57 < dongs> i think it means microconTROLLer development kit 2013-07-04T09:24:21 < emeb_mac> makes sense. 2013-07-04T09:28:31 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T09:29:41 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.158] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T09:57:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-04T10:01:20 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T10:01:20 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-04T10:01:20 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T10:03:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T10:25:35 < Tectu> dongs, what's a "per-line order fee"? 2013-07-04T10:26:58 < jpa-> just what it says 2013-07-04T10:27:02 < jpa-> every line costs 2013-07-04T10:27:15 < jpa-> i.e. order 10 different items, pay 10x line fee 2013-07-04T10:30:33 < zyp> heh 2013-07-04T10:30:45 < zyp> who does that? 2013-07-04T10:31:47 < zyp> did ryanair start in the distribution business? 2013-07-04T10:34:57 < jpa-> "verical" 2013-07-04T10:35:12 < jpa-> apparently their whole site is flash 2013-07-04T10:36:30 < zyp> sounds like the ryanair way of doing business :p 2013-07-04T10:36:34 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T10:44:34 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T10:47:57 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-04T10:49:58 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-04T10:50:27 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-04T10:54:33 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T10:54:43 < R2COM> holy shit 2013-07-04T10:55:03 < R2COM> stm32f405 with 64tqfp has pin1 as Little or BIG circle? 2013-07-04T10:55:23 < dongs> haha 2013-07-04T10:55:30 < dongs> did you solder it wrong way 2013-07-04T10:55:30 < Tectu> what? 2013-07-04T10:55:37 < R2COM> I solder as BIG circle Pin1 2013-07-04T10:55:41 < dongs> R2COM: pin1 is lower left of text as if you're looking at it 2013-07-04T10:55:53 < R2COM> piece of shit 2013-07-04T10:56:02 < dongs> ya, not very obvious 2013-07-04T10:56:03 < R2COM> which retard makes two circles on chip 2013-07-04T10:56:27 < R2COM> to me it was like big circle... well probably pin 1 of course 2013-07-04T10:57:07 < R2COM> trying to find now one old test board with stm32f4 64pin I did long time ago, I knew it worked 2013-07-04T10:57:31 < zyp> the little circle is the pin1 marker 2013-07-04T10:57:38 < dongs> http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/6/4/3/0/9/a5825501-239-photo%284%29.jpg 2013-07-04T10:57:45 < dongs> here, retard soldered it wrong, too 2013-07-04T10:57:52 < dongs> which resulted in nice explosions on fets 2013-07-04T10:58:02 < R2COM> hell yes 2013-07-04T10:58:05 < R2COM> it is.... 2013-07-04T10:58:25 < R2COM> I didnt get any explosions, just couldnt connect to it with swd 2013-07-04T10:58:30 < dongs> i dont thikn i ever seen a chip wehre pin1 wasn't aligned with text.. 2013-07-04T10:58:30 < R2COM> ok well... 2013-07-04T10:58:54 < dongs> so like if you just look at the chip and you can read the text, then pin1 is lower left of that 2013-07-04T10:59:03 < R2COM> right... 2013-07-04T10:59:40 < zyp> dongs, isn't upper left also common? 2013-07-04T10:59:47 < dongs> zyp: show me a chip that has that? 2013-07-04T10:59:49 < dongs> i've not seen. 2013-07-04T11:00:00 < zyp> at least I think upper left is standard on qfn 2013-07-04T11:00:18 < dongs> hm, cocks 2013-07-04T11:00:22 < dongs> i just pulled a random fpga board 2013-07-04T11:00:24 < dongs> and xilinx is top left ;) 2013-07-04T11:00:38 < zyp> this avr32 in qfp is also upper left 2013-07-04T11:00:51 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/sTW8U.JPG <- xilinx on my F4 board is lower left 2013-07-04T11:01:13 < dongs> thats a qfp 2013-07-04T11:01:15 < dongs> mine is bga 2013-07-04T11:03:14 < dongs> http://imgshopping.naver.net/spec/404/40/11/4044011832_0_1.jpg 2013-07-04T11:05:56 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@212.255.238.80] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T11:06:14 < R2COM> in general circle is pin1 2013-07-04T11:06:44 < R2COM> and since this bigger circl was there, it kinda was automatically in my mind that its pin1 2013-07-04T11:07:20 < zyp> I think of it as a dot, so it makes sense that a smaller dot is pin1 2013-07-04T11:07:51 < zyp> the smaller circle is also deeper than the other 2013-07-04T11:12:05 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:15:04 -!- claude is now known as Claude 2013-07-04T11:37:34 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:43:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@studpool-wlan-74-4.fs.fbi.h-da.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:43:37 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-04T11:45:50 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:47:49 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:47:50 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-04T11:47:50 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-04T11:47:50 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:47:50 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffann] by ChanServ 2013-07-04T11:51:12 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.221.173] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T11:55:10 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T11:58:53 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.221.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-04T12:00:38 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.77.207.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:10:06 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:19:52 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.143] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:20:54 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Thu Jul 04 12:27:29 2013 --- Log opened Thu Jul 04 12:27:36 2013 2013-07-04T12:27:36 -!- jpa-_ [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:27:36 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 76 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 3 voices, 72 normal] 2013-07-04T12:27:45 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.158] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:28:47 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 77 secs 2013-07-04T12:30:26 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-04T12:30:31 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2013-07-04T12:31:13 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T12:32:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: jpa-, dongs, +dekar, Laurenceb 2013-07-04T12:32:36 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-04T12:33:21 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:38:04 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:41:59 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@studpool-wlan-74-4.fs.fbi.h-da.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T12:42:16 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T12:53:42 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-04T13:08:42 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: You can't quit! 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All amateur hunting in NSW has been suspended for two months. The government actually /dismissed/ the 'Game Council' for being corrupt and do-nothing. They can't even find out where the $11 Million/year has gone.. 2013-07-04T14:31:44 < baird> "But who is going to leave food out for the feral cats now..?" 2013-07-04T14:33:41 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-04T14:39:12 < jpa-_> http://i.imgur.com/pIqE68N.jpg 2013-07-04T14:47:03 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-04T14:54:27 <+Steffann> dongs, 1) OOOLD 2) You really thing we need to see that here? 2013-07-04T14:56:38 < jpa-_> http://paste.dy.fi/UaV/plain Steffann sure keeps this channel clean 2013-07-04T14:58:43 < Laurenceb> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F9XDt63TX_Y/UdSPxBO5ZKI/AAAAAAAAWSs/t3ep8PGeYSo/s638/dougtricycle.png 2013-07-04T14:59:15 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2013-07-04T14:59:30 < Laurenceb> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RnVCzEA7Hzs/UdSQPjI7I5I/AAAAAAAAWS0/4sY3ptwKUGE/s623/dougbrick.png 2013-07-04T15:00:25 < Laurenceb> 2 of the greatest inventions? 2013-07-04T15:02:04 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-04T15:04:34 -!- You're now known as jpa- 2013-07-04T15:10:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@dslb-088-068-019-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T15:10:20 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-04T15:12:09 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T15:23:55 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T15:33:48 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T16:20:03 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-04T16:33:42 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@dhcp-176103.eduroam.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T16:40:34 < Thorn> what mosfets are used here http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/6/4/3/0/9/a5825501-239-photo%284%29.jpg 2013-07-04T16:41:16 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-04T16:41:54 < jpa-> maybe http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/SI4599DY-T1-GE3/SI4599DY-T1-GE3CT-ND/2441968 ? 2013-07-04T16:42:08 < gxti> if only there were some sort of marking on them that you could look up 2013-07-04T16:43:03 < jpa-> i like how a few of them are missing corners :) 2013-07-04T16:43:19 < Thorn> it don't see SI on them, only AT or SAT 2013-07-04T16:43:21 < Thorn> thanks 2013-07-04T16:43:44 < jpa-> my bet: too high pwm frequency for the 330 ohm pull-up to keep up 2013-07-04T16:44:03 < qyx_> some unproper soldering 2013-07-04T16:44:05 < Thorn> it looks like dies or bond wires are visible in two of them 2013-07-04T16:44:11 < jpa-> those fets have almost 1nF of input capacitance 2013-07-04T16:44:14 < qyx_> the third driving transistor for example 2013-07-04T16:44:30 < qyx_> have unsoldered one pin 2013-07-04T16:44:56 < jpa-> hah, indeed 2013-07-04T16:45:45 <+Steffanx> unsoldered or "a little more solder could've been used" qyx_? 2013-07-04T16:45:52 < jpa-> not soldered 2013-07-04T16:46:22 < jpa-> also some solder paste between 3. and 4. 2013-07-04T16:46:27 < Thorn> does this guy sell boards he assembles? 2013-07-04T16:46:31 < jpa-> i guess they didn't even bother to wash the board after soldering 2013-07-04T16:47:00 < qyx_> if that was some more important component i wouldn't fly that 2013-07-04T16:48:04 < zyp> jpa-, the problem is that the stm32 is soldered the wrong way around 2013-07-04T16:48:14 < jpa-> also.. 47µF total capacitance for whole board? 2013-07-04T16:48:58 <+Steffanx> + a few times 100nF i guess 2013-07-04T16:48:59 < jpa-> hah, yeah i guess it is.. i wonder why they make those packages with two dots 2013-07-04T16:49:30 < Thorn> >first go at reflow not successful :( As you can see in the picture, several of the fets went bang <-- what, popcorn effect? 2013-07-04T16:49:52 < qyx_> :D 2013-07-04T16:50:08 <+Steffanx> Reflow with what? 2013-07-04T16:50:20 < jpa-> quite lucky to manage that.. he has to have the first stage N-fet half-conducting so that he gets the half bridge N- and P-fet into short-circuit 2013-07-04T16:50:29 < jpa-> with popcorn machine 2013-07-04T16:50:35 < Thorn> well the corners don't axtually look melted by an iron 2013-07-04T16:50:52 < jpa-> yeah they are definitely exploded FETs 2013-07-04T16:50:54 < Thorn> or did they go bang when powered? 2013-07-04T16:50:57 < jpa-> quite typical failure mode 2013-07-04T16:51:14 <+Steffanx> When powered of coures Thorn 2013-07-04T16:51:22 < qyx_> btw when powering up unprogrammed stm32, all pins have pullups 2013-07-04T16:51:27 < jpa-> Thorn: did he realize that the STM32 is wrong way around? 2013-07-04T16:51:33 < zyp> the SMPS chip on my board also looked similar to that when I popped it 2013-07-04T16:51:35 < qyx_> which turns both fets on 2013-07-04T16:51:54 < zyp> jpa-, small circle vs big circle mixup 2013-07-04T16:51:55 < jpa-> qyx_: he only has one driving pin per half bridge.. so it should be quite ok 2013-07-04T16:52:08 < Thorn> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1872199&page=16 2013-07-04T16:53:06 < Laurenceb> hmm 2013-07-04T16:53:20 < Laurenceb> im planning on doing a balloon gimbal 2013-07-04T16:53:29 < Laurenceb> for 2015 faroes eclipse 2013-07-04T16:53:50 <+Steffanx> but 2013-07-04T16:53:58 < jpa-> http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/2/5/9/9/5/a5872601-21-2013-06-21%2009.47.18-2.jpg looks like he is doing better now 2013-07-04T16:54:03 < Laurenceb> back to UK land :P 2013-07-04T16:54:19 < Laurenceb> looks neat 2013-07-04T16:54:29 < Laurenceb> very tidy 2013-07-04T16:54:35 <+Steffanx> looks much better jpa- .. at least he managed to place the chip right now. 2013-07-04T16:54:41 < Laurenceb> lmao 2013-07-04T16:55:03 < jpa-> Steffanx: seems to be the same way around as before 2013-07-04T16:55:06 < jpa-> for some reason.. 2013-07-04T16:55:35 <+Steffanx> I mean, on the other one it seems to be a little 'off'.. rotated or whatever you call it 2013-07-04T16:55:43 < jpa-> ah, yeah 2013-07-04T16:55:56 < jpa-> still a bit off on one side 2013-07-04T16:56:28 < zyp> with a correct reflow procedure, surface tension should align it good 2013-07-04T16:56:48 < jpa-> or misalign it really well :) 2013-07-04T16:59:23 < Thorn> do people actually use these BLS connectors on aircraft? they are hardly vibration proof 2013-07-04T16:59:58 < jpa-> good enough for hobbyist stuff 2013-07-04T17:00:25 < jpa-> i bet if there is enough vibration to disconnect them, the mechanical parts fail way sooner 2013-07-04T17:00:42 < jpa-> they are constructed with normal unlocked bolts anyway 2013-07-04T17:01:04 < jpa-> or nylock at best 2013-07-04T17:07:30 < Laurenceb> "ST has collaborated with HighTec to integrate a C compiler into ST's Eclipse-based SPC5 Studio IDE. When you download SPC5 Studio, you will receive a free 30-day HighTec GNU "C" compiler license" 2013-07-04T17:07:33 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-04T17:08:17 < jpa-> :D 2013-07-04T17:08:23 < Laurenceb> im clearly in the wrong business 2013-07-04T17:09:03 < jpa-> that doesn't say that they'll get any customers 2013-07-04T17:09:18 < jpa-> ST has enough money to throw it at stupid projects 2013-07-04T17:13:43 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/sense_power/FM2098/SC963/SS1534?ecmp=spc56asild_enews_auto_jun2013 2013-07-04T17:13:48 < Laurenceb> i dont get this stuff 2013-07-04T17:13:57 < Laurenceb> your firmware could still be piss poor 2013-07-04T17:14:48 < Thorn> what is "chassis applications" 2013-07-04T17:14:57 < Laurenceb> ECU and stuff 2013-07-04T17:15:35 < Laurenceb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_26262 2013-07-04T17:15:39 < Laurenceb> bullshit/0 2013-07-04T17:16:25 < jpa-> maybe they have some certified reference design? 2013-07-04T17:16:32 <+Steffanx> I defined a division by zero as NaN , Laurenceb 2013-07-04T17:47:23 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@40.sub-75-196-84.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T17:47:59 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-04T18:05:26 < Laurenceb> what the actual fuck 2013-07-04T18:05:44 < Laurenceb> people are emailing me offering to sell random mpu9150 boards 2013-07-04T18:06:17 < jpa-> you got targeted spam? how cool 2013-07-04T18:13:09 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T18:18:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-04T18:18:42 < BrainDamage> nah, if it was targetted spam it'd have been ads of crypto storage guaranteed to be police proof especially made for pics 2013-07-04T18:19:02 < Laurenceb> only for baird 2013-07-04T18:23:50 < baird> would make a nice change from the exgf's death-threads.. 2013-07-04T18:23:54 < baird> *threats 2013-07-04T18:27:50 < BrainDamage> gotta admit that there's some dedication there 2013-07-04T18:28:11 < BrainDamage> she still have a special place for you 2013-07-04T18:32:31 < jpa-> a special place = a hole in the ground in the nearest forest 2013-07-04T18:33:03 < Luggi09> just a short stupid question, if I want to get the adress of the ADC1 Data register is it ok to write ((u32)ADC1+0x40) where 0x40 is the offset for that register ? 2013-07-04T18:33:26 < jpa-> Luggi09: why not just &ADC1->DR? 2013-07-04T18:33:41 < Luggi09> I'm just trying to port a programm from a f1 to a f3 2013-07-04T18:33:43 < jpa-> or (u32)(&ADC1->DR) if you want it as a u32 2013-07-04T18:33:56 < Luggi09> jpa-: that makes more sense :) 2013-07-04T18:35:57 < PaulFertser> jpa-: probably (uint32_t)(ADC1->DR) , without taking address with %? 2013-07-04T18:36:05 < jpa-> PaulFertser: no 2013-07-04T18:36:10 < jpa-> he wants the address 2013-07-04T18:36:17 < jpa-> maybe for assigning it as the DMA destination 2013-07-04T18:36:21 < Luggi09> thanks and is it necessary to do the adc calibration, that wasn't there on the f1 2013-07-04T18:36:23 < PaulFertser> Ah, yes, misread his question. 2013-07-04T18:36:25 < Luggi09> exactly 2013-07-04T18:36:37 < jpa-> Luggi09: haven't found it to have that much of an effect 2013-07-04T18:36:59 < Luggi09> ok, then I'll drop it 2013-07-04T18:37:07 < PaulFertser> Then i'd just use "p/x &ADC1->DR" 2013-07-04T18:37:28 < jpa-> much more readable to do it in code than just to hardcode the address 2013-07-04T18:37:39 < jpa-> it compiles to the same anyway 2013-07-04T18:37:55 < PaulFertser> Got it, he's talking about the code, not debugging. /me is nuts about debugging 2013-07-04T18:38:18 < PaulFertser> u32 is ghetto though, C99 provides us with uintXX_t types already. 2013-07-04T18:38:37 < Luggi09> i just copied that from some example code :P 2013-07-04T18:38:52 < jpa-> yeah, but linus likes it so it must be good 2013-07-04T18:39:56 -!- Claude is now known as claude 2013-07-04T18:52:19 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T18:53:02 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-04T18:55:16 -!- dekar [~dekar@dslb-088-068-019-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T18:59:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T19:04:47 < Laurenceb> http://www.sbit.com.tw/en/productsearch.aspx?_searchtext=SDSDQUA-128G-U46A 2013-07-04T19:11:05 < Luggi09> hmm I can't really get that stuff to work :/ does anyone know how that external trigger stuff works on the f3 for the adc, I only found references to external trigger channels, but not how they connect to the timers 2013-07-04T19:12:23 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T19:16:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-04T19:21:40 < Thorn> "I like this maker movement because it gets kids interested in something real instead of drugs." http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.texas-instruments.msp430.discuss/45399 2013-07-04T19:22:49 < Laurenceb> unless its hydroponics 2013-07-04T19:23:52 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T19:25:11 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T19:26:17 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T19:33:37 < dongs> holy dicks 2013-07-04T19:33:44 < dongs> there is a through-hole displayport connector 2013-07-04T19:33:45 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/photos/Tyco%20Photos/2040451-1.JPG 2013-07-04T19:34:18 < gxti> awesome, now people can use DP with their arduinos 2013-07-04T19:34:51 < dongs> yep 2013-07-04T19:35:27 < dongs> sadly digikey is the only place wiht good prices on dp connectors :( 2013-07-04T19:35:32 < dongs> my local place is double 2013-07-04T19:37:28 < MrMobius> those connectors on the back arent through hole 2013-07-04T19:37:43 < dongs> ? yes they are 2013-07-04T19:38:10 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Molex/47272-0001.JPG 2013-07-04T19:38:22 < dongs> this is what a "non through hole" on the back connectors look like 2013-07-04T19:40:01 < gxti> which is fine too, it's the mounting posts that hold it down not the signal pins, but yes that's obviously a through hole connector. 2013-07-04T19:40:55 < dongs> 670-2430-ND i will just order these and knock out the flange like I did on the last 30 2013-07-04T19:41:02 < dongs> its cheapest. 2013-07-04T19:41:26 < gxti> dat flange 2013-07-04T19:42:48 < dongs> holy shit mouser sucks 2013-07-04T19:42:50 < dongs> they only have 14 of these 2013-07-04T19:43:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.238.80] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T19:43:43 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-04T19:46:49 < dongs> hm i really dont wanna spend $50 on TVS diodes 2013-07-04T19:46:58 < dongs> what the fuck how cna this shit be so espensive 2013-07-04T19:47:11 < dongs> RCLAMP0524PCT-ND 2013-07-04T19:47:28 < dongs> this trash should cost basically nothing 2013-07-04T19:50:20 -!- neuro_sys [~neuro_sys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-04T19:53:40 -!- neuro_sys [~neuro_sys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T20:01:50 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T20:08:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T20:08:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-04T20:08:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T20:16:54 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-04T20:17:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.154.11.165] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T20:31:06 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-04T20:40:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.154.11.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T20:58:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.154.20.133] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:03:39 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-04T21:04:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T21:06:34 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:11:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:16:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:32:29 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-04T21:32:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:35:37 < emeb> Ugh - trying to convert some I2C code from F40x to F30x. Of course the entire API is different. 2013-07-04T21:38:16 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-04T21:41:16 < zyp> improved, they say 2013-07-04T21:46:15 < emeb> I'll have to take their word for it. All I know is that the StdPeriph routines appear to be completely different. 2013-07-04T21:50:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:57:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T21:58:37 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@76.164.192.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:00:22 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@76.164.192.124] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:07:57 < emeb> looks like there are some reasonable examples of how to do it in the eval board support code. 2013-07-04T22:27:50 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@77.67.214.121] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:27:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.154.20.133] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-04T22:37:18 -!- qyx__ [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:37:46 -!- rmob_ [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:38:34 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-04T22:38:36 -!- mervaka_ [~mervaka@mervaka.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:38:54 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:39:13 -!- olasd_ [~olasd@pdpc/supporter/active/olasd] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:39:38 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:39:46 -!- olasd [~olasd@pdpc/supporter/active/olasd] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-04T22:39:50 -!- olasd_ is now known as olasd 2013-07-04T22:40:34 -!- mervaka [~mervaka@mervaka.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:41:05 -!- rmob [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:41:05 -!- qyx_ [~qyx@krtko.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:41:51 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:45:41 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:47:40 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:48:16 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:48:16 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:48:35 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:48:53 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-04T22:51:06 -!- qyx__ is now known as qyx_ 2013-07-04T22:55:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.214.121] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T22:57:48 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@77.67.214.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-04T22:57:48 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T23:09:57 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T23:17:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-04T23:22:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.214.121] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-04T23:42:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-04T23:44:00 < jpa-> stdperiph, the HAL that lacks abstraction yet succeeds in inefficiency 2013-07-04T23:46:10 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.143] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T23:55:05 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-04T23:55:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-04T23:55:29 < Thorn> is it okay to have classes named TokenCollector, TokenEmitter and TokenBase in the same program? 2013-07-04T23:56:17 < Thorn> without it looking like it was written by a EE trying to make a joke --- Day changed Fri Jul 05 2013 2013-07-05T00:03:13 < jpa-> Thorn: as long as you don't have TokenEmitterFactoryCollectionSingleton 2013-07-05T00:04:50 < qyx_> i hate that CamelCase 2013-07-05T00:05:51 < Thorn> ada way ftw Token_Emitter_Factory_Collection_Singleton lol 2013-07-05T00:07:55 < jpa-> then to do something with it you write token_emittery_factory'fabricate(token_emitter_factory_collection(token_emitter_factory_collection_singleton)'first) 2013-07-05T00:08:13 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:19:44 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:22:13 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@dhcp-176103.eduroam.chalmers.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-05T00:26:29 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 2013-07-05T00:36:11 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:36:22 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.143] has quit [Quit: died-while-typing :)] 2013-07-05T00:39:43 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I am Franz.] 2013-07-05T00:43:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-05T00:50:21 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@w193-11-200-145.eduroam.sunet.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:52:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:52:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T00:52:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:55:15 -!- Laurence2 [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T00:55:18 < Laurence2> sup 2013-07-05T00:56:53 < Laurence2> meanwhile in Murica 2013-07-05T00:57:23 < Laurence2> http://i.imgur.com/DvW6GPP.jpg 2013-07-05T00:59:01 -!- Laurence2 is now known as Laurenceb_ 2013-07-05T01:07:33 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@w193-11-200-145.eduroam.sunet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-05T01:10:53 < R0b0t1> ☆☆☆☆☆☆▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ 2013-07-05T01:10:53 < R0b0t1> ☆☆☆☆☆☆▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ 2013-07-05T01:10:53 < R0b0t1> ☆☆☆☆☆☆▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ 2013-07-05T01:10:53 < R0b0t1> ▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ 2013-07-05T01:10:53 < R0b0t1> ▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ 2013-07-05T01:10:54 < R0b0t1> ▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ 2013-07-05T01:11:27 < Laurenceb_> yeehaaa 2013-07-05T01:20:56 < BrainDamage> http://i.imgur.com/11Z6nlI.jpg 2013-07-05T01:22:06 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-05T01:32:06 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-05T01:35:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-05T01:35:19 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T01:39:24 * R0b0t1 thwaps BrainDamage 2013-07-05T02:34:32 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:35:04 < R2COM> so, on a custom board with stm32f4, I can now connect via st-link windows utility 2013-07-05T02:35:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:35:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T02:35:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:35:27 < R2COM> but when connecting through the eclipse I see it says Error in initializing st-liunk device 2013-07-05T02:35:34 < R2COM> (I am programming using discovery board) 2013-07-05T02:35:43 < R2COM> discovery board with jumpers on, connects to itself fine 2013-07-05T02:35:48 < R2COM> wonder what that could be 2013-07-05T02:37:07 < upgrdman> are you using the stlink to program an external board? 2013-07-05T02:37:38 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-05T02:37:38 < upgrdman> if so, does the ext pcb request connect-under-reset? 2013-07-05T02:37:44 < upgrdman> err require 2013-07-05T02:37:50 < R2COM> what do you mean? 2013-07-05T02:38:15 < R2COM> external pcb has just NRST pin pulled up, and connected to NRST of that SWD signals 2013-07-05T02:38:19 < upgrdman> your ext pcb, are the swd pins being reused, and therefore the swd pins will not work unless the mcu is held in the reset state 2013-07-05T02:38:45 < R2COM> well how can they be reused? I broken out SWD pins 2013-07-05T02:38:47 < upgrdman> in order words, are using the swd pins as gpios 2013-07-05T02:38:48 < R2COM> for programming only 2013-07-05T02:38:56 < R2COM> no... 2013-07-05T02:39:05 < upgrdman> you can use them as inputs, output, with the periphs, etc 2013-07-05T02:39:06 < upgrdman> ok 2013-07-05T02:39:11 < R2COM> I broken out 6 pins, as appears in discovery board scehamtics 2013-07-05T02:39:19 < upgrdman> cause i had that problem, and i needed to connect under reset 2013-07-05T02:39:42 < upgrdman> which also required removing one of the jumper resistors on the bottom of the discov pcb 2013-07-05T02:40:01 < R2COM> here is a thing 2013-07-05T02:40:05 < R2COM> I can connect via utility 2013-07-05T02:40:08 < R2COM> and erase chip....etc 2013-07-05T02:40:14 < R2COM> i.e. chip is alive 2013-07-05T02:40:21 < upgrdman> try using official st-link program to see if it can connect to your ext pcb 2013-07-05T02:40:24 < R2COM> and SWD pins are not used 2013-07-05T02:40:25 < upgrdman> oh ok, nm 2013-07-05T02:40:29 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-05T02:40:52 < R2COM> heres what I did now 2013-07-05T02:40:56 < R2COM> I did CHIP ERASE 2013-07-05T02:40:59 < R2COM> using utility 2013-07-05T02:41:06 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-05T02:41:10 < R2COM> and then, connected again through eclipse, now it says its connected 2013-07-05T02:41:21 < upgrdman> hmm 2013-07-05T02:41:47 < upgrdman> perhaps eclipse is writing your firmware to the chip with the security stuff (no read or whatever its called) 2013-07-05T02:42:15 < R2COM> but why its not doing this when discovery board programs itself? 2013-07-05T02:42:33 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:42:41 < upgrdman> good question 2013-07-05T02:42:56 < upgrdman> same chip on your ext pcb as on the discov board? 2013-07-05T02:43:10 < R2COM> well not quite, but still 1MB 2013-07-05T02:43:15 < R2COM> stm32f405 2013-07-05T02:43:34 < R2COM> now I pressed on debug: and see this in disassembly: fffffffc: Unable to retrieve disassembly data from backend. 2013-07-05T02:43:56 < R2COM> and loop with this thing" ffffffcc: movs r0, r0 2013-07-05T02:46:51 < R2COM> and now.. I did not touch anything, just restarted all procedure (connect to st-link, start debug), it seems to be loaded OK.. however 2013-07-05T02:47:14 < R2COM> when I press RUN, I get: 2013-07-05T02:47:14 < R2COM> Note: automatically using hardware breakpoints for read-only addresses. 2013-07-05T02:47:14 < R2COM> warning: Remote failure reply: E31 2013-07-05T02:48:37 < R2COM> one thing related to it is this: http://www.atollic.com/index.php/kb/11-st_specific_debugging/105-kb_debug_stm32_low_power_modes 2013-07-05T02:48:43 < R2COM> not sure now if its really my issue 2013-07-05T02:49:04 < R2COM> because My chip is not in sleep or LP mode or anything, its just being started by debugger (in halt state) 2013-07-05T02:50:10 < dongs> R2COM: how is your F4 doing after resoldering 2013-07-05T02:51:10 < R2COM> its new board, I didnt mess with that one, I wanted clean board 2013-07-05T02:51:35 < R2COM> its connected right apparently, because it seems I can do almost anything with chip now using st-link utility 2013-07-05T02:51:47 < R2COM> just problems debugging it from eclipse using Atollic GDB server 2013-07-05T02:51:59 < R2COM> it connects well too, just cannot start the debug procedure 2013-07-05T02:52:36 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-05T02:52:39 < dongs> better use proper shit 2013-07-05T02:52:44 < dongs> dump that atollic garbage and get jlink 2013-07-05T02:52:51 < dongs> it has its own gdb server 2013-07-05T02:53:06 < dongs> so you just use it with your favorite opensoresaids 2013-07-05T02:53:30 < R2COM> which exactly jlink is nice one? 2013-07-05T02:53:54 < dongs> well they're all OK, if you wanna be cheap just get jlink-edu or something. it has some noncommercial clausae in license if you care about that 2013-07-05T02:54:03 < dongs> if you dont care about any of this shit, just get jlink-ob clones from china 2013-07-05T02:54:08 < dongs> for like $15 2013-07-05T02:54:17 < R2COM> yeah and again mess with problems... 2013-07-05T02:54:26 < dongs> http://www.hotmcu.com/usbminijtag-jlink-jtagswd-debuggeremula%E2%80%8Btor-p-29.html?cPath=3_25 2013-07-05T02:54:26 < R2COM> better get a legit then if decision is made to buy separate tool 2013-07-05T02:54:29 < dongs> nah 2013-07-05T02:54:33 < dongs> they're same 2013-07-05T02:54:35 < dongs> but anyway 2013-07-05T02:54:37 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-05T02:54:41 < dongs> jlinkedu is 65-something bucks 2013-07-05T02:54:43 < dongs> and works 2013-07-05T02:54:50 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:54:51 < dongs> and yeah you can get your pals to pay for proper one later 2013-07-05T02:55:04 < R2COM> its segger right? 2013-07-05T02:55:07 < dongs> right 2013-07-05T02:55:07 < R2COM> or no 2013-07-05T02:55:12 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-05T02:55:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-05T02:55:14 < dongs> segger 2013-07-05T02:55:30 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:55:50 < R2COM> so I see simplest one is like 300$ (the cheapest is one you mentioned) 2013-07-05T02:56:06 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-05T02:56:07 < R2COM> pro is just fastest... and has ethernet...not sure if I need it 2013-07-05T02:56:22 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T02:56:39 < dongs> yeah, there's base model and extra licenses for shit you dont need 2013-07-05T02:56:51 < dongs> if all you gonna do is freetard debugging -edu or cheapest standard will do 2013-07-05T02:57:05 < dongs> then just run jlinkgdbserver -if swd or somethin like that and dick with it from eclipse. 2013-07-05T02:57:27 < R2COM> and in that case I wont have to use gdb server from atollic right? 2013-07-05T02:57:33 < dongs> no, not at all. 2013-07-05T02:57:38 < dongs> only jlinks 2013-07-05T02:58:06 < R2COM> I will order that tomorrow then 2013-07-05T02:58:53 < R2COM> but its still interesting why cant I get it to debug here! I mean, everything aside, its same type of chip 2013-07-05T02:58:57 < R2COM> stm32f405rgt6 2013-07-05T02:59:06 < R2COM> (1MB like chip on discovery) 2013-07-05T02:59:16 < dongs> and -disco debugging works? 2013-07-05T02:59:18 < dongs> using same steps 2013-07-05T02:59:21 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-05T02:59:37 < dongs> and youre using same st-dink off discovery? 2013-07-05T02:59:46 < dongs> and you disconnected the onboard mcu, including nreset from it? 2013-07-05T02:59:48 < R2COM> yes, just removed two jumpers 2013-07-05T03:00:02 < R2COM> no... here is what I did: 2013-07-05T03:00:10 < R2COM> those 6 pins listed in discovery board for SWD 2013-07-05T03:00:18 < R2COM> I broken them out to my chip, connected them 2013-07-05T03:00:37 < R2COM> 1.VDD target 2013-07-05T03:00:40 < R2COM> 2. SWCLK 2013-07-05T03:00:42 < R2COM> 3.GND 2013-07-05T03:00:46 < R2COM> 4.SWDIO 2013-07-05T03:00:48 < R2COM> 5.NRST 2013-07-05T03:00:50 < R2COM> 6.SWO 2013-07-05T03:00:57 < R2COM> and on my board, NRST is pulled up as well 2013-07-05T03:00:59 < R2COM> thats it 2013-07-05T03:01:01 < R2COM> nothing else 2013-07-05T03:01:10 < R2COM> its connected in this same sequence to discovery board 2013-07-05T03:02:18 < dongs> yeah but I reember reading something about having to disconnect nrst from header->onboard F4 2013-07-05T03:02:25 < dongs> so not 2 but 3 jumpers 2013-07-05T03:02:32 < R2COM> errrr 2013-07-05T03:02:34 < R2COM> 1 sec 2013-07-05T03:04:28 < R2COM> you mean so that st-link does not use NRST? 2013-07-05T03:05:37 < dongs> no, so that nrst is only connected to your board 2013-07-05T03:06:05 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T03:09:40 < R2COM> ok so you mean SB11 probably then 2013-07-05T03:09:43 < R2COM> its not quite jumper 2013-07-05T03:09:46 < R2COM> its like solder blob thing 2013-07-05T03:10:07 < R2COM> no...its resistor 2013-07-05T03:10:22 < englishman> 0 ohm, it's how they do it 2013-07-05T03:10:35 < R2COM> right 2013-07-05T03:10:49 < R2COM> I'm just looking at board and schematics 2013-07-05T03:11:04 < R2COM> T_NRST connected to stm32f103 on discovery board (the one responsible fgor programming) 2013-07-05T03:11:06 < R2COM> and also, 2013-07-05T03:11:13 < R2COM> to NRST through SB11 2013-07-05T03:11:32 < R2COM> and NRST is connected to 407 device on discovery board 2013-07-05T03:11:52 < R2COM> so I remove SB11, and then turns out that my NRST signal from stm32f103 will be connected only to my board 2013-07-05T03:11:53 < R2COM> lets see 2013-07-05T03:12:17 < R2COM> oh... they even tell this in notes 2013-07-05T03:12:35 < R2COM> that weas really stupid not to notice 2013-07-05T03:12:42 < dongs> ^_^ 2013-07-05T03:15:57 < englishman> hmm it's the same on my f0discovery 2013-07-05T03:16:14 < englishman> thanks dongs for solving a future problem of mine that i haven't actually had yet 2013-07-05T03:16:40 < R2COM> nah 2013-07-05T03:16:42 < R2COM> thank me 2013-07-05T03:16:47 < R2COM> because if I didnt have that problem 2013-07-05T03:16:50 < R2COM> he wouldnt talk about it 2013-07-05T03:17:00 < dongs> it was covered before in this channel 2013-07-05T03:17:07 < dongs> im sure if you check zlog for SB1 2013-07-05T03:17:09 < dongs> er SB11 2013-07-05T03:17:29 < englishman> on f0 it's sb19 and sb22. but also in the manual 2013-07-05T03:18:12 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-05T03:23:26 < R2COM> anyhow 2013-07-05T03:23:30 < R2COM> I still get same error 2013-07-05T03:23:31 < R2COM> warning: Remote failure reply: E31 2013-07-05T03:23:31 < R2COM> Quit (expect signal SIGINT when the program is resumed) 2013-07-05T03:25:23 < dongs> fucken lunix 2013-07-05T03:25:56 < R2COM> wait a second 2013-07-05T03:25:59 < R2COM> I think i did error 2013-07-05T03:26:03 < R2COM> by placing that resistor 2013-07-05T03:26:12 < R2COM> i mean NRST pullup 2013-07-05T03:26:15 < R2COM> on my board 2013-07-05T03:26:30 < R2COM> hmm or no 2013-07-05T03:26:59 < R2COM> discovery board's 407 device has it too pulled up with 100K 2013-07-05T03:27:01 < dongs> nrst pullup doenst matter 2013-07-05T03:27:10 < dongs> value doesnt matter either 2013-07-05T03:27:18 < dongs> i usually use 4.7k on nrst 2013-07-05T03:27:26 < dongs> but technically you dont ned it since tehre's a weak one on-chip 2013-07-05T03:27:32 < dongs> just if you dont want random resets it might be helpful 2013-07-05T03:27:38 < R2COM> so issue now is in something else 2013-07-05T03:27:56 < R2COM> I can connect to it via st-link (to my board), and even start debug, but once I press run, it gives error I showed 2013-07-05T03:28:08 < dongs> did you flash it first? 2013-07-05T03:28:27 < R2COM> what do you mean? 2013-07-05T03:28:30 < R2COM> why? 2013-07-05T03:28:37 < R2COM> I did chip erase with st-link utility 2013-07-05T03:28:40 < dongs> right 2013-07-05T03:28:44 < dongs> then flash your code on it 2013-07-05T03:28:47 < dongs> then start debug. 2013-07-05T03:29:11 < R2COM> yeah but its the debugger who must do it 2013-07-05T03:29:19 < dongs> not with opensauce 2013-07-05T03:29:20 < R2COM> at least thats how I always did with discovery boards 2013-07-05T03:29:23 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-05T03:29:28 < R2COM> lets see 2013-07-05T03:29:33 < R2COM> but it worked with discovery boards 2013-07-05T03:29:35 < dongs> but anyway even in keil its a separate step 2013-07-05T03:29:44 < dongs> debug->download 2013-07-05T03:29:47 < dongs> then start debug 2013-07-05T03:29:51 < dongs> err flash->download 2013-07-05T03:30:16 < R2COM> just did download .hex through the st-link utility 2013-07-05T03:30:32 < R2COM> was successfull...which again tells that chip on my board is alive and can be programmed 2013-07-05T03:31:13 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-05T03:31:21 < R2COM> but then again...try to debug and it throws that fucked up error 2013-07-05T03:31:31 < R2COM> E31 2013-07-05T03:31:32 < R2COM> http://www.atollic.com/index.php/kb/11-st_specific_debugging/105-kb_debug_stm32_low_power_modes 2013-07-05T03:31:50 < R2COM> that link is basically description of it...although not sure how related it is to my issue 2013-07-05T03:32:09 < R2COM> so it looks like something atollic related then, rather than my possible error on board with device 2013-07-05T03:32:33 < R2COM> because device was programmed successfully with st-link util. and discovery board with jumpers and Sb11 off 2013-07-05T03:32:52 < R2COM> technically, it means that all my electrical connections needed to debug are correct I guess 2013-07-05T03:37:24 < R2COM> and that coocox has its own gdb server? 2013-07-05T03:37:47 < dongs> it might, or maybe tehy just support their own shitty ftdi-based jtag thingy 2013-07-05T03:39:54 < R2COM> is it normal that when I connect with ST-link utility to my board, then press on MCU Core, it shows as : HALTED ? 2013-07-05T03:40:51 < dongs> hm duno 2013-07-05T03:40:54 < dongs> never bothered with stdink 2013-07-05T03:44:38 < R2COM> I was even considering wrong PDR_ON connection 2013-07-05T03:44:45 < dongs> the E31 sleep shit sounds like SWD interface getting shutdown due to lowe-power mode 2013-07-05T03:44:57 < dongs> doubt its your problem unless youre disabling SWD in yoru code 2013-07-05T03:44:58 < R2COM> but thats out of question, since I did it as per datasheet (VDD to power, GND to ground) 2013-07-05T03:45:25 < dongs> nah this is talkin about entering low-power mode from inside chip 2013-07-05T03:45:31 < dongs> like sleep or whatever, wehre most peripherals are out 2013-07-05T03:45:34 < dongs> youre not doing that 2013-07-05T03:48:32 < R2COM> hmmm what a shit 2013-07-05T03:48:54 < R2COM> I will order that jlink tomorrow, but I'd like to get that shit to program now as well 2013-07-05T03:51:56 < upgrdman> using what os 2013-07-05T03:52:04 < dongs> the only one that matters dude. 2013-07-05T03:52:14 < R2COM> win7 2013-07-05T03:59:32 < R2COM> I am also thinking maybe external clocks dont quite work 2013-07-05T03:59:36 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/pq1F3pd.jpg what plug type is this 2013-07-05T03:59:46 < R2COM> because if I am correct debugging unit clocked with main clock 2013-07-05T03:59:57 < R2COM> and if main clock not working, would it spit out error like that? 2013-07-05T04:00:19 < R2COM> looks like some high voltage plug 2013-07-05T04:01:36 < R2COM> if its configured with external cyrstal usage 2013-07-05T04:01:37 < R2COM> HSE 2013-07-05T04:01:44 < R2COM> and for some reason its not working, debug wont work right? 2013-07-05T04:02:47 < dongs> oh 2013-07-05T04:02:53 < dongs> i know what you did 2013-07-05T04:02:57 < dongs> did it ever flash correctly once? 2013-07-05T04:03:03 < dongs> whaT HSE_VALUE did y ou setup shit for? 2013-07-05T04:03:07 < R2COM> it always flashes correctly 2013-07-05T04:03:16 < R2COM> the 8MHz 2013-07-05T04:03:35 < R2COM> but it does flash correctly through the st-link utility 2013-07-05T04:06:31 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-05T04:06:49 < emeb> whoo-hoo. I2S full-duplex on an F303 starting to work. 2013-07-05T04:09:37 < dongs> R2COM: sounds like youre fucking up clock setup 2013-07-05T04:10:00 < dongs> ive had SWD completely die when you ex. flash 8mhz HSE code on a board with 25mhz xtal 2013-07-05T04:10:24 < dongs> do you have a reset button? 2013-07-05T04:10:31 < dongs> hold it while connecting w/debug 2013-07-05T04:10:38 < dongs> once its connecting, release it 2013-07-05T04:10:45 < dongs> see if you can jump in at that time. 2013-07-05T04:11:47 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:13:56 < R2COM> theres no reset button 2013-07-05T04:14:19 < R2COM> but I can tie NRST to ground 2013-07-05T04:14:20 < R2COM> with wire 2013-07-05T04:14:41 < R2COM> so you mean, do that while connecting and starting debug operation? 2013-07-05T04:14:53 < dongs> yeah. also i duno if ccraptollic has an option for that 2013-07-05T04:15:00 < dongs> in keil you can choose "hold reset low while connecting" 2013-07-05T04:15:02 < dongs> or osmehtin like that 2013-07-05T04:16:21 < R2COM> also 2013-07-05T04:16:26 < R2COM> my BOOT1,0 are both tied to GND 2013-07-05T04:18:50 < dongs> uh 2013-07-05T04:18:55 < dongs> pretty sure thats wrong 2013-07-05T04:19:06 < R2COM> err what 2013-07-05T04:19:27 < dongs> oh, well, boot0 could have a jumper to vcc 2013-07-05T04:19:29 < R2COM> that config I showed means: get data from glash 2013-07-05T04:19:30 < R2COM> flash 2013-07-05T04:19:31 < dongs> if you ever wanna use bootloader 2013-07-05T04:19:32 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-05T04:19:54 < R2COM> I broken out jumpers on board 2013-07-05T04:20:01 < R2COM> but jumpers now tie boot1,0 to GND 2013-07-05T04:21:09 < dongs> any luck wiht holding reet? 2013-07-05T04:21:11 < dongs> reset 2013-07-05T04:21:44 < R2COM> doing now 2013-07-05T04:23:56 < R2COM> so NRST now is connected to GND 2013-07-05T04:23:59 < R2COM> on my board 2013-07-05T04:24:06 < R2COM> and disconnected from discovery 2013-07-05T04:24:16 < dongs> no 2013-07-05T04:24:17 < dongs> well 2013-07-05T04:24:19 < dongs> doenst matter 2013-07-05T04:24:26 < dongs> but anyway, put it on a switch or jumper or somethin 2013-07-05T04:24:35 < dongs> tie to gnd, start debug, before it times out, pull it 2013-07-05T04:25:03 < R2COM> it cant even connect to it then 2013-07-05T04:25:05 < R2COM> tried now 2013-07-05T04:25:11 < R2COM> even st-link then cannot connect 2013-07-05T04:25:19 < R2COM> when nrst from discovery not connected to my board 2013-07-05T04:25:27 < R2COM> and when my board nrst tied to gnd 2013-07-05T04:25:39 < R2COM> not only debug, but it cant connect 2013-07-05T04:27:13 < dongs> ok connect with n rst up.. then hold it down before starting debug.. 2013-07-05T04:27:16 < jef79m> [10:59.38] I am also thinking maybe external clocks dont quite work 2013-07-05T04:27:16 < jef79m> [10:59.42] http://i.imgur.com/pq1F3pd.jpg what plug type is this 2013-07-05T04:27:26 < jef79m> looks like 15A au plug. 2013-07-05T04:27:34 < jef79m> oops, pasted two lines. 2013-07-05T04:29:18 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.238.80] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:29:37 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-05T04:30:17 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.142.151] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:31:10 < R2COM> didnt work 2013-07-05T04:31:22 < R2COM> debugger just hangs then 2013-07-05T04:33:06 -!- Blok_ [~sa@h-219-80.a357.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:33:57 < R2COM> shit there must be something trivial 2013-07-05T04:34:18 < R2COM> I mean...one thing is it doesnt work at all, another thing is, i can even program it with st-link utility... and connect without problem 2013-07-05T04:34:28 < R2COM> but cannot debug from eclipse + atollic gdb server 2013-07-05T04:34:50 < R2COM> whereas with same tool I can easily connecto debugger to stm32f407 device on discovery board when jumpers and sb11 were in place 2013-07-05T04:35:05 < R2COM> both discovery and my board has 8mhz crystal 2013-07-05T04:35:22 < dongs> u sure disco isnt 25? 2013-07-05T04:35:28 < R2COM> hmmmm 2013-07-05T04:35:45 < R2COM> PH0,PH1 - 8MHz 2013-07-05T04:35:50 < R2COM> thats what it shows on its schematic 2013-07-05T04:37:02 < R2COM> so everything is fucking same 2013-07-05T04:37:15 < R2COM> I feel its kinda error on PC side..but what error.. 2013-07-05T04:37:27 < R2COM> and why it works with stm32f407 device 2013-07-05T04:37:34 < R2COM> can the issue be in linker script? 2013-07-05T04:37:46 < dongs> i think youre fucking up clocking 2013-07-05T04:38:54 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Blok, +dekar, Luggi09, upgrdman, TeknoJuce, @ChanServ 2013-07-05T04:39:21 < R2COM> the opnly thing could be is crystal doesnt oscsillate 2013-07-05T04:39:24 < R2COM> its unlikely 2013-07-05T04:40:13 < dongs> if it didnt, it would just fall back to HSI 2013-07-05T04:40:41 < R2COM> means that clocking cannot be an issue in any case? 2013-07-05T04:40:56 < dongs> if your pll setup is wrong 2013-07-05T04:41:01 < dongs> and youre clocking to 9000mhz 2013-07-05T04:41:12 < dongs> then it is an issue. 2013-07-05T04:41:26 < R2COM> yeah but my pll setup is same as it worked with discovery 2013-07-05T04:45:59 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh8092118140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:46:24 < R2COM> also one more detail 2013-07-05T04:46:37 < R2COM> every two times or so, after those failed attempts, it fails to connect as well 2013-07-05T04:46:47 < R2COM> I have to connect again with st-link utility, and do CHIP ERASE 2013-07-05T04:46:57 < R2COM> only after that it connects ok from Eclipse 2013-07-05T04:47:02 < R2COM> but again doesnt debug.. 2013-07-05T04:47:53 -!- coon1 [coon@gateway/shell/c-base/x-dneelfyiyerubwlr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:48:47 -!- Nutter` [Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:49:20 -!- coon [coon@c-base/crew/coon] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-05T04:49:43 -!- Nutter [Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-05T04:54:44 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:59:39 -!- mattbrejza [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-05T04:59:39 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jul 05 04:59:39 2013 --- Log opened Fri Jul 05 04:59:48 2013 2013-07-05T04:59:48 -!- jpa-_ [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T04:59:48 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 64 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 64 normal] 2013-07-05T04:59:48 !hubbard.freenode.net [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? 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2013-07-05T05:38:12 < R2COM1> none of them are stuffed in board 2013-07-05T05:38:15 < R2COM1> you see? 2013-07-05T05:38:18 < dongs> ?? 2013-07-05T05:38:24 < dongs> you said you had 8mhz 2013-07-05T05:38:28 < R2COM1> I thought 2013-07-05T05:38:34 < dongs> i mean on your board 2013-07-05T05:38:40 < R2COM1> oh mine, sure 2013-07-05T05:38:42 < R2COM1> external 8MHz 2013-07-05T05:38:46 < R2COM1> and 32.768kjhz 2013-07-05T05:38:50 < R2COM1> I do 2013-07-05T05:39:06 < R2COM1> but what I am saying is, discovery board has them in schematicc and in footprints, but those parts not stuffed in 2013-07-05T05:39:34 < R2COM1> my stm32f407 on discovery board (which I was successfully debugginh) worked on intrnal HSI then 2013-07-05T05:39:45 < dongs> right, but also check if there was clockout 2013-07-05T05:39:46 < dongs> for 8mhz 2013-07-05T05:39:50 < dongs> from MCO of stlink 2013-07-05T05:40:03 < dongs> into XIN on f4-disco 2013-07-05T05:40:16 < R2COM1> XIn? 2013-07-05T05:40:22 < dongs> PH0 or wharetever 2013-07-05T05:40:24 < dongs> xtal_in 2013-07-05T05:40:29 < dongs> to use in clock in mode 2013-07-05T05:40:54 < R2COM1> yes 2013-07-05T05:40:56 < R2COM1> there is MCO 2013-07-05T05:41:07 < R2COM1> coming insto stm32f407 2013-07-05T05:41:12 < R2COM1> on discovery board... 2013-07-05T05:41:36 < R2COM1> Now I just need to see what that frequency is 2013-07-05T05:41:58 < dongs> I think MCO might be on F3disco 2013-07-05T05:42:05 < dongs> not on F4 2013-07-05T05:42:36 < R2COM1> but Im looking at schematics of f4 disco 2013-07-05T05:42:38 < R2COM1> and theres same thing 2013-07-05T05:42:49 < dongs> is mco from stlink going to F407? 2013-07-05T05:42:51 < R2COM1> X2 (which is not sutffed in), and PH0 to MCO 2013-07-05T05:42:54 < R2COM1> right 2013-07-05T05:42:58 < dongs> its 8mhz then 2013-07-05T05:43:17 < R2COM1> then its matched to my crystal 2013-07-05T05:43:41 < R2COM1> because my external crystal is 8MHz, it goes into PH0/1 on my board to stm32f405 2013-07-05T05:44:04 < R2COM1> (actually there aways is mismatch due to loading capacitance of crystl etc..but I doubt that would be issue) 2013-07-05T05:44:25 < R2COM1> so its still something else wrong then 2013-07-05T05:45:06 < R2COM1> ah shit 2013-07-05T05:45:11 < R2COM1> totally retarded 2013-07-05T05:45:14 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @ChanServ 2013-07-05T05:45:20 < R2COM1> there is 8MHz on my discovery board 2013-07-05T05:45:46 < R2COM1> (i was looking at f0 disco) 2013-07-05T05:45:47 < R2COM1> so yea 2013-07-05T05:46:04 < R2COM1> there is external 8MHz on my F4 discovery, with which I always had success in debugging 2013-07-05T05:46:13 < R2COM1> and so is there 8MHz on my custom board 2013-07-05T05:46:17 < dongs> Hmn. 2013-07-05T05:46:19 < R2COM1> and code is same 2013-07-05T05:46:22 < R2COM1> with same clocking setup 2013-07-05T05:46:24 < R2COM1> thats it 2013-07-05T05:46:33 < R2COM1> it makes everything matched 2013-07-05T05:46:43 < R2COM1> the only difference is, discovery has stm32f407vgt6 2013-07-05T05:46:50 < R2COM1> and my custom board has stm32f405rgt6 2013-07-05T05:46:55 < R2COM1> but both are 1MB devices 2013-07-05T05:52:24 < dongs> shouldnt matter. 2013-07-05T05:57:26 < R2COM1> right 2013-07-05T05:57:40 < R2COM1> I am trying to think if I fucked up board design 2013-07-05T05:57:53 < R2COM1> but unlikely otherwise it wouldnt be recognized by st-link utility then... 2013-07-05T05:58:14 < dongs> im still thinking opensores fucked you 2013-07-05T05:58:17 < dongs> and not board design 2013-07-05T05:58:39 < R2COM1> even if it worked normally on discovery board? 2013-07-05T05:59:07 < R2COM1> this stm32 programming thingy is only stuff I use from open source 2013-07-05T06:06:30 < Luggi09> hmm I am currently trying to get a circular dma buffer to work with the adc, but somehow I am setting the stdperiphlib stuff wrong.. does anybody know how to do it right ? here is the initialisation: http://bcas.tv/paste/results/1kKTdO81.html 2013-07-05T06:06:55 < Luggi09> when I debug it the adc values get read, but all the buffer values stay zero 2013-07-05T06:08:24 < Luggi09> this is on a f3, I had it working on a f1 fine before 2013-07-05T06:08:49 < dongs> should be pretty similar 2013-07-05T06:09:09 < dongs> did you choose correct dma channel for the peripharl? 2013-07-05T06:09:18 < dongs> your comments say DMA1_CH6 2013-07-05T06:09:20 < dongs> but code does CH1 2013-07-05T06:11:43 < Luggi09> channel 1 should be fine 2013-07-05T06:12:20 < Luggi09> that's just a error copying 2013-07-05T06:12:49 < Luggi09> it's really weird, I must have forgotten one small thing I can't find atm 2013-07-05T06:15:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-05T06:15:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T06:28:41 -!- coon1 is now known as coon 2013-07-05T06:35:30 < upgrdman> test 2013-07-05T06:35:35 < upgrdman> oh good i can talk in here 2013-07-05T06:35:42 < upgrdman> anyone know when services will be back? 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2013-07-05T07:02:28 < emeb_mac> Atollic? 2013-07-05T07:02:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.238.80] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T07:05:19 < dongs> sup blogs 2013-07-05T07:05:29 < dongs> keil is teh best 2013-07-05T07:11:08 < emeb_mac> hangin' out, watching how many of my neighbors are setting off illegal fireworks. 2013-07-05T07:11:20 < R2COM> why illegal 2013-07-05T07:12:15 < emeb_mac> launching mortar-style fireworks over a suburban neighborhood in tinder-dry conditions. Yeah - that's smart. 2013-07-05T07:12:39 < emeb_mac> the only legal stuff here is smoke & sparklers. 2013-07-05T07:12:47 < englishman> murica 2013-07-05T07:13:00 < englishman> land of the free 2013-07-05T07:13:05 < englishman> home of the brave 2013-07-05T07:13:10 < englishman> unless you might hurt someone 2013-07-05T07:13:11 < emeb_mac> home of the idiots 2013-07-05T07:13:12 < R2COM> see this brit is mocking you up 2013-07-05T07:13:29 < englishman> lol worse than brit 2013-07-05T07:13:34 < englishman> colonist 2013-07-05T07:13:43 < gxti> quebec 2013-07-05T07:13:44 < gxti> the worst 2013-07-05T07:13:50 < englishman> augh stalker 2013-07-05T07:14:36 < R2COM> so your grand grand grandpa was a colonial warrior? 2013-07-05T07:15:19 < dongs> more like colon warrior 2013-07-05T07:15:26 < englishman> aww. 2013-07-05T07:15:32 < dekar> is there any decent cortex m micro with embedded bluetooth transceiver? 2013-07-05T07:15:34 < englishman> that was a good one 2013-07-05T07:16:06 < emeb_mac> it's all fun and games until someone's house gets set on fire. 2013-07-05T07:17:01 < R2COM> so dont do fireworks then 2013-07-05T07:17:07 < R2COM> do fistfights instead 2013-07-05T07:17:08 < emeb_mac> I don't. 2013-07-05T07:17:19 < PaulFertser> dekar: nRF51 ? 2013-07-05T07:17:24 < emeb_mac> doesn't stop the idiots down the street. 2013-07-05T07:17:40 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.123] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T07:17:43 < gxti> fists? we have guns for that 2013-07-05T07:17:55 < emeb_mac> 2nd amendment baby 2013-07-05T07:18:35 < baird> Forgotten the references to those two 'rival' villages that fire fireworks all night at each other's churches.. 2013-07-05T07:18:46 < emeb_mac> awesome 2013-07-05T07:19:03 < dekar> PaulFertser, yeah found that as well, but they want me to sign up for the datasheet which is annoying -.- 2013-07-05T07:19:05 < baird> And then I just find it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0B2HRNso 2013-07-05T07:19:36 < R2COM> worth clicking? 2013-07-05T07:19:55 < PaulFertser> dekar: indeed :/ 2013-07-05T07:21:05 < dongs> you arenty gonna get any RF-relatd shit without NDA in 2013 2013-07-05T07:21:12 < dongs> if STM32W is any indication 2013-07-05T07:21:13 < emeb_mac> that's actually pretty awesome 2013-07-05T07:21:31 < baird> R2COM: hell yeah. 2013-07-05T07:21:59 < R2COM> ok! 2013-07-05T07:22:00 < R2COM> hey! 2013-07-05T07:22:03 < R2COM> hjere ios something interesting 2013-07-05T07:22:10 < R2COM> here is what I did 2013-07-05T07:22:44 < R2COM> I decided, just for curiosity, with current new project, load debugger into another discovery board (configured to load stuff on its own chip) 2013-07-05T07:22:46 < R2COM> and guess what 2013-07-05T07:22:48 < R2COM> I get E31 2013-07-05T07:22:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 2013-07-05T07:22:59 < R2COM> something is fucked with my tools 2013-07-05T07:23:14 < R2COM> "tools" 2013-07-05T07:23:17 < R2COM> becayse they were free 2013-07-05T07:23:42 < R2COM> here is a thing, the project with which I was working on discovery board was in my Eclipse folder 2013-07-05T07:23:49 < R2COM> then I basically just copied it 2013-07-05T07:23:51 < R2COM> into another project 2013-07-05T07:23:54 < R2COM> with new name 2013-07-05T07:24:04 < R2COM> then, as you know, I connected my board...and couldnt debug 2013-07-05T07:24:35 < R2COM> but now... I decided to try debug but not with my custom board (with which debugging failed), but again with discovery baord for which I know it worked 2013-07-05T07:24:38 < R2COM> and I got same error E31 2013-07-05T07:24:55 < R2COM> I open the old project (from which current was copied), and try to debug that one with discovery board, and it worked 2013-07-05T07:25:15 < R2COM> I have a feeling maybe Eclipse messed someshit, during my copying of project 2013-07-05T07:25:26 < dongs> lol. 2013-07-05T07:25:29 < dongs> FUCK OPENSAUCE; OPENSAUCE SUX; OPENSAUCE IS DYING; OPENSAUCE IS DEAD TO ME; OPENSAUCE HIT WTC 2013-07-05T07:25:58 < emeb_mac> there's that macro again 2013-07-05T07:26:06 -!- Nutter [~Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [] 2013-07-05T07:26:38 < R2COM> again..I want to stress on the fact that this error got replicated on disovery board too (my custom board is aside now) 2013-07-05T07:26:42 < PaulFertser> Eclipse is silly indeed. OTOH it's possible you hardcoded some path in in the project options yourself. 2013-07-05T07:26:59 < R2COM> PaulFertser: problem is, I dont know yet what exactly is fucked up 2013-07-05T07:27:01 -!- kuldeepdhaka is now known as Guest94784 2013-07-05T07:27:01 -!- Steffann is now known as Guest53363 2013-07-05T07:27:17 < emeb_mac> Eclipse <- there's your problem. 2013-07-05T07:27:18 < PaulFertser> R2COM: but what's giving you that error? 2013-07-05T07:28:06 < R2COM> I had "PROJECT A" in Eclipse, which I was downloading to on-board stm32f407 chip on discovery board, then I created my custom board, and copied PROJECT A to PROJECT B, and had trouble debugging PROJECT B on my custom board, I thought maybe it has something to do with different board/device/clock mismatch 2013-07-05T07:28:19 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: is it that bad? It seems inflexible and hard to extend (no elisp here for you) but other than that... 2013-07-05T07:28:19 < R2COM> but now... I decided to debug PROJECT B, with discovery board...and getting again that error 2013-07-05T07:28:33 < R2COM> emeb_mac: what are you using? 2013-07-05T07:28:48 < PaulFertser> R2COM: what are you using for a gdb server? Does it start correctly? 2013-07-05T07:28:55 < emeb_mac> I've been using either raw GCC + make or CooCox. 2013-07-05T07:28:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T07:28:59 < R2COM> PaulFertser: I am using Atollics GDB server 2013-07-05T07:29:28 < R2COM> emeb_mac: I messed a little with coococks, and can compile there, but still have hard time to debug? 2013-07-05T07:29:28 < emeb_mac> I use arm-none-eabi-gdb along with a BMP clone. Works great. 2013-07-05T07:29:37 < R2COM> not sure what BMP is 2013-07-05T07:29:39 < PaulFertser> R2COM: do you see its output, does it start correctly? 2013-07-05T07:29:47 < emeb_mac> On CooCox I use an F4 Discovery. 2013-07-05T07:30:10 < R2COM> PaulFertser: it connects to the St-link device (I use discovery board as programmer for my custom board), but then when I start debug it gives me: E31 warning 2013-07-05T07:30:15 < emeb_mac> Black Magic Probe: http://www.blacksphere.co.nz/main/blackmagic 2013-07-05T07:30:37 < R2COM> emeb_mac: black magic probe + coocox? 2013-07-05T07:30:45 < PaulFertser> When Eclipse is starting gdb it provides all gdb output in the console "tab" (usually in the bottom tile), and if some error happens talking to gdb, it shows a window with GDB/MI exact error message. 2013-07-05T07:30:56 < emeb_mac> R2COM: No - BMP is used with raw GCC + GDB + make 2013-07-05T07:31:01 < R2COM> PaulFertser: ok one second 2013-07-05T07:31:12 < emeb_mac> R2COM: with CooCox I use an F4 Discovery 2013-07-05T07:31:23 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: i'm using g-a-e + openocd or bmp. 2013-07-05T07:31:26 < R2COM> emeb_mac: why not use then your raw tools with discovery too? 2013-07-05T07:31:43 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: emacs for editing, but for debugging I prefer plain gdb. 2013-07-05T07:31:54 < R2COM> I am on win 7 2013-07-05T07:31:56 < emeb_mac> R2COM: because BMP is better. 2013-07-05T07:32:12 < emeb_mac> BMP has the GDB server built into the hardwaer 2013-07-05T07:32:17 < R2COM> emeb_mac: if its better what I ask is why not using it to program discovery board? 2013-07-05T07:32:40 < R2COM> emeb_mac: but how about Jlink then? it also does that 2013-07-05T07:32:44 < R2COM> as far as i heard today 2013-07-05T07:33:10 < R2COM> PaulFertser: warning: Remote failure reply: E31 2013-07-05T07:33:15 < emeb_mac> R2COM: because ST-Link works fine w/ CooCox. It's not broke, so I don't fix it. 2013-07-05T07:33:37 < emeb_mac> and I don't have any jlink hardware 2013-07-05T07:33:47 < R2COM> emeb_mac: would st-link work fine with coocox if i want to use discovery board to program my custom board? 2013-07-05T07:34:05 < emeb_mac> R2COM: that's what I do - seems OK to me. 2013-07-05T07:34:18 < R2COM> emeb_mac: but I get an errpor message there 2013-07-05T07:34:21 -!- Nutter [Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T07:34:33 < emeb_mac> With Eclipse, right? 2013-07-05T07:34:36 < PaulFertser> R2COM: so that looks like your gdb server returns some error, of course i'm not familiar with attolic so have never seen that. 2013-07-05T07:34:58 < PaulFertser> OpenOCD works just fine with stlink afaict. 2013-07-05T07:35:13 < emeb_mac> I've heard that. Never tried it. 2013-07-05T07:35:19 < PaulFertser> I did. 2013-07-05T07:35:26 < R2COM> ok Im now trying just for interest start up coocox debug too 2013-07-05T07:35:38 < R2COM> it seems that it has support for st-link, but it doesnt say st-liunk/v2 2013-07-05T07:35:51 < emeb_mac> it is v2 2013-07-05T07:36:05 < R2COM> what settings do you have in your configuration foor debugf? 2013-07-05T07:36:15 < R2COM> I got st-link 2013-07-05T07:36:16 < R2COM> SWD 2013-07-05T07:36:17 < R2COM> 1M 2013-07-05T07:36:24 < R2COM> startup: Run in Main 2013-07-05T07:36:34 < R2COM> reset mode: SYSRESETREQ 2013-07-05T07:36:38 < emeb_mac> not at my Win7 machine right now. Don't remember what the settings are. 2013-07-05T07:36:39 < R2COM> cacherom enable 2013-07-05T07:36:47 < R2COM> host Ip address 127.0.0.1 2013-07-05T07:36:47 < R2COM> ? 2013-07-05T07:37:02 < R2COM> you dont remember which port you used either? 2013-07-05T07:37:12 < emeb_mac> Nope - just used the defaults. 2013-07-05T07:37:48 < R2COM> well I got my project compiled successfully 2013-07-05T07:37:52 < R2COM> but once I press Debug 2013-07-05T07:37:55 < R2COM> it saysL: Program Download Failed ! 2013-07-05T07:38:11 < emeb_mac> Is your st-link OK? 2013-07-05T07:38:16 < PaulFertser> This says E31 means the target is running in low-power mode and can't be debugged that easily http://www.atollic.com/index.php/kb/11-st_specific_debugging/105-kb_debug_stm32_low_power_modes 2013-07-05T07:38:18 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-05T07:38:26 < emeb_mac> try using it w/ ST-LINK Utility 2013-07-05T07:38:31 < R2COM> PaulFertser: I saw that already... but I cant figure out why I get it 2013-07-05T07:38:56 < R2COM> emeb_mac: st-link utility works great, but what does it give me? 2013-07-05T07:39:02 < R2COM> I need to be able to debug 2013-07-05T07:39:16 < PaulFertser> With BMP I can tell it to pull down SRST while connecting so that it doesn't matter if the target is flashed with any code. 2013-07-05T07:39:44 < R2COM> PaulFertser: let me explain in more detail what REAL problem is 2013-07-05T07:39:57 < R2COM> real problem is, it happens only with project which got copied inside eclipse 2013-07-05T07:39:59 < R2COM> you see? 2013-07-05T07:40:12 < R2COM> i.e. when I want to do that with older project, with discovery board, I dont get error 2013-07-05T07:40:24 < R2COM> I decided to make another version of project, and copied it, and try to debug 2013-07-05T07:40:28 < R2COM> and get error like that 2013-07-05T07:40:29 < emeb_mac> and CooCox, which won't debug either? 2013-07-05T07:40:30 < PaulFertser> R2COM: it's really curious indeed. 2013-07-05T07:40:33 < R2COM> both projects looks dead similar 2013-07-05T07:41:19 < PaulFertser> I know how to understand what happens if one uses plain gdb and OpenOCD. 2013-07-05T07:41:39 < R2COM> I dont want to deal with openOCD i heard lots of shit about it 2013-07-05T07:41:46 < PaulFertser> I heard lots of good about it. 2013-07-05T07:42:05 < emeb_mac> I've had mixed results with it. 2013-07-05T07:42:18 < emeb_mac> but BMP has been more reliable. 2013-07-05T07:42:19 < PaulFertser> I'm using it many years for different targets. 2013-07-05T07:44:17 -!- Guest94784 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.123] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-05T07:44:29 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.123] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T07:44:45 < R2COM> here 2013-07-05T07:44:47 < R2COM> coocox 2013-07-05T07:44:50 < R2COM> [cc] arm-none-eabi-gcc -mcpu=cortex-m4 -mthumb -g -nostartfiles -Wl,-Map=test3.map -O0 -Wl,--gc-sections -LC:\CooCox\CoIDE\configuration\ProgramData\test3 -Wl,-TC:\CooCox\CoIDE\configuration\ProgramData\test3/arm-gcc-link.ld -g -o test3.elf ..\obj\vectors.o ..\obj\spi.o ..\obj\i2c.o ..\obj\tim.o ..\obj\pwm.o ..\obj\memory.o ..\obj\main.o ..\obj\acc.o ..\obj\gpio.o ..\obj\gyro.o ..\obj\usart.o 2013-07-05T07:44:50 < R2COM> Program Size: 2013-07-05T07:44:50 < R2COM> text data bss dec hex filename 2013-07-05T07:44:50 < R2COM> 0 0 0 0 0 test3.elf 2013-07-05T07:44:50 < R2COM> BUILD SUCCESSFUL 2013-07-05T07:44:51 < R2COM> Total time: 3 seconds 2013-07-05T07:45:02 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-05T07:45:10 < dongs> haha 2013-07-05T07:45:15 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-05T07:45:20 < PaulFertser> Lacking linker script 2013-07-05T07:45:24 < dongs> super optimized code 2013-07-05T07:46:06 < PaulFertser> All sections are prabably garbage-collected. That would be strange 2013-07-05T07:46:45 < PaulFertser> Because proper linker script tells that isr_vectors section should be kept. And should specify entry point (for stdperiph lib it's Reset_Vector), and so all the functions that are called from there should get linked in too. 2013-07-05T07:47:31 < dekar> feel free to steal mine :) https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT_Example 2013-07-05T07:47:50 < R2COM> I have linker script.. just didnt add it there 2013-07-05T07:48:00 < R2COM> I have one I used in eclipse 2013-07-05T07:48:02 < R2COM> anyhow... 2013-07-05T07:48:16 < R2COM> right now I think I should maybe concentrate and figure out what was problem with eclipse 2013-07-05T07:48:25 < R2COM> and why there are debug errors on newly copied project 2013-07-05T07:48:31 < R2COM> turned out, its not my boards fault 2013-07-05T07:48:47 < R2COM> (again, because I can connect to my board with st-link utility and flash it or erase etc..) 2013-07-05T07:49:47 < PaulFertser> It's not clear even if the error happens before "load" command for gdb or after, when you're trying to start debugging. 2013-07-05T07:50:15 < R2COM> here: I connect, st-link connected, then I go to Debug, start it... then I press RUN, and get that E31 shit 2013-07-05T07:51:09 < PaulFertser> R2COM: can you inspect $pc before running? Can you use "step" (or even "step instruction") to see if the first steps are ok? 2013-07-05T07:51:30 < R2COM> pfirst steps are ok 2013-07-05T07:51:37 < R2COM> it then stucks in loop in .bss section 2013-07-05T07:51:44 < R2COM> and goes forever like.. 2013-07-05T07:51:47 < R2COM> then I press Run 2013-07-05T07:51:50 < R2COM> and it gives that error 2013-07-05T07:52:09 < PaulFertser> R2COM: can you try to place a breakpoint on "main" before run? 2013-07-05T07:52:10 < R2COM> I can show 2013-07-05T07:52:22 < R2COM> I did it doesnt reach main 2013-07-05T07:52:29 < R2COM> it gets stuck in staetup.S I guess 2013-07-05T07:52:57 < dekar> coocox prohibits the use of their products for hazardous applications O.o 2013-07-05T07:53:04 < dekar> http://www.coocox.org/terms.htm 2013-07-05T07:53:07 < PaulFertser> Ok, so then you can put the cursor after that .bss loop and press "run here". 2013-07-05T07:53:26 < PaulFertser> startup.S is not that big... 2013-07-05T07:54:27 < PaulFertser> Another idea is to compare the generated map files for the "good" project and the newly copied one. 2013-07-05T07:55:27 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-05T07:55:35 < emeb_mac> dekar: is that just a CYA? so if something fails you can't blame them w/o revealing that you violated the TOU. 2013-07-05T07:56:09 < R2COM> 1: cmp r1, r2 2013-07-05T07:56:09 < R2COM> itt lo 2013-07-05T07:56:09 < R2COM> strlo r0, [r1], #4 2013-07-05T07:56:09 < R2COM> blo 1b 2013-07-05T07:56:17 < R2COM> here is loop in which it gets stuck if i step in 2013-07-05T07:56:21 < R2COM> during very start 2013-07-05T07:57:16 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/tg6GUw65 2013-07-05T07:57:22 < R2COM> the whole startup.S file 2013-07-05T07:57:44 < R2COM> stucks on lines 91-94 2013-07-05T07:59:04 < R2COM> and.... 2013-07-05T07:59:13 < R2COM> I did skip that loop... 2013-07-05T07:59:18 < R2COM> by running to Line # 2013-07-05T07:59:24 < R2COM> and I could jumpo to main 2013-07-05T07:59:26 < R2COM> and now... 2013-07-05T07:59:31 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.142.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-05T07:59:33 < R2COM> when I press PAUSE I get again that E31 erroir 2013-07-05T08:00:19 < R2COM> warning: Remote failure reply: E31 2013-07-05T08:00:19 < R2COM> Quit (expect signal SIGINT when the program is resumed) 2013-07-05T08:01:20 < PaulFertser> R2COM: if it is really reproducible by simply copying a working project to another folder, comparing the generated map files seems to be the best option to understand what's happening. 2013-07-05T08:35:48 -!- dfletcher_ [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T08:35:48 -!- dfletcher_ [~fletch@drupal.org/user/72475/view] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T08:35:56 -!- dfletcher_ is now known as dfletcher 2013-07-05T08:36:31 < R2COM> and regarding the coocox, anyone else is using it here or no 2013-07-05T08:41:08 < R2COM> except emeb 2013-07-05T08:42:10 < emeb_mac> I'm all alone. 2013-07-05T08:42:44 < R2COM> Im now trying to stick my linker script to coocox not sure how 2013-07-05T08:42:54 < R2COM> its window for browsing for it in Configuration is not active 2013-07-05T08:43:26 < emeb_mac> and strangely, I only use it to satisfy some clients who wanted a WinXX IDE. Now they want something else... 2013-07-05T08:45:49 < emeb_mac> Coocox is not particularly configurable. 2013-07-05T08:49:37 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-05T08:55:33 < coon> coocox is strange 2013-07-05T08:55:44 < coon> sometimes it cant find a .vbs file 2013-07-05T08:55:56 < coon> when i want to debug 2013-07-05T08:56:36 < coon> becuase it is deleting the script and regenerating it always i click debug. but it has always the same content 2013-07-05T08:57:27 < coon> i also tried making the file undeletable by restricting in the filesystem so even the administrator is unable to delete the file 2013-07-05T08:58:20 < coon> but coocox is able to delete it anyway. without running with administrator permissions 2013-07-05T09:00:21 < R2COM> and concluding it... free tools are pure faggotry 2013-07-05T09:01:12 < coon> it is the best free IDE you can get i guess 2013-07-05T09:01:44 < coon> it is almost ok but in some points it is strange 2013-07-05T09:01:52 < PaulFertser> R2COM: pure overgeneralisation :( 2013-07-05T09:02:01 < R2COM> so you know how to attach the linker script to it? 2013-07-05T09:02:11 < PaulFertser> Also, coocox is not free, it's just free-of-charge. 2013-07-05T09:02:41 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.238.133] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T09:02:42 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar_] by ChanServ 2013-07-05T09:02:43 < dongs> ? 2013-07-05T09:02:46 < dongs> how is it not "free" 2013-07-05T09:02:55 < PaulFertser> dongs: free as in freedom 2013-07-05T09:03:00 < dongs> is this some opensauce free-as-in-aids shit? 2013-07-05T09:03:01 < dongs> oh right 2013-07-05T09:03:10 < dongs> im sure a total of 0 people give a fuck 2013-07-05T09:03:28 < PaulFertser> dongs: you're surely wrong and you know it 2013-07-05T09:03:45 < emeb_mac> lol "free-as-in-aids" 2013-07-05T09:04:21 < R2COM> actually Keil does provide free stuff no 2013-07-05T09:04:25 < R2COM> for 16KB devices 2013-07-05T09:04:30 < dongs> 32k 2013-07-05T09:04:31 < R2COM> its just it wont let you debug I guess 2013-07-05T09:04:32 < emeb_mac> ya - there's a 32k-limited trial 2013-07-05T09:04:35 < dongs> R2COM: it does 2013-07-05T09:04:39 < dongs> R2COM: its fully featured, debugging and all 2013-07-05T09:04:43 < dongs> just 32k linker limit 2013-07-05T09:04:44 < R2COM> heh 2013-07-05T09:04:48 < dongs> if y our porject is < 32k youre fine. 2013-07-05T09:05:00 < emeb_mac> there's some switches & shit it won't do 2013-07-05T09:05:01 < R2COM> or for example if chip is some low end f0 with 32KB max? 2013-07-05T09:05:05 < dongs> no 2013-07-05T09:05:08 < dongs> werll yeah 2013-07-05T09:05:08 < dongs> or that 2013-07-05T09:05:10 < dongs> but i mean 2013-07-05T09:05:14 < dongs> you can target 1meg F405 2013-07-05T09:05:19 < dongs> you just cant link > 32k worth of objects 2013-07-05T09:05:19 < PaulFertser> dongs: you also know without free software the technology world would be very different now, and i'm not sure you'd like it. 2013-07-05T09:05:40 < R2COM> which technology lol 2013-07-05T09:06:02 < baird> Let's nominate Stallman for the Nobel Peace Prize. :) 2013-07-05T09:06:17 < emeb_mac> well, a lot of those payware toolchains sit on top of free GCC 2013-07-05T09:06:39 < R2COM> I guess itr kinda true but not sure if its true with Keil 2013-07-05T09:06:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.238.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-05T09:06:55 < PaulFertser> Keil is using arm cc afaik. 2013-07-05T09:06:57 < emeb_mac> no - keil is proprietary thru-n-thru 2013-07-05T09:07:20 < emeb_mac> but for most, the compiler is free. you're paying for the purty IDE 2013-07-05T09:07:36 < R2COM> I like IDE 2013-07-05T09:07:47 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: i think keil's tcp/ip implementation was at least borrowing some parts from uIP, the similarities are really considerable. 2013-07-05T09:07:50 < R2COM> I edit files with text editor anyhow though 2013-07-05T09:08:24 < emeb_mac> keil has some great realtime monitoring features that others don't 2013-07-05T09:08:41 < R2COM> like what 2013-07-05T09:08:56 < emeb_mac> and deep knowledge of the peripherals & memory maps of the various MCU architectures. 2013-07-05T09:09:28 < emeb_mac> like dialog box viewers that show you the live register contents - and interpret the meanings. 2013-07-05T09:09:30 < R2COM> so its like you select your trarget cpu, and just go ahead attach linker script and start writing from main.c ? 2013-07-05T09:09:43 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-05T09:13:09 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/KpGmTo4.jpg 2013-07-05T09:13:16 < dongs> oh! 2013-07-05T09:13:19 < dongs> speaking of payware toolchains 2013-07-05T09:13:25 < dongs> R2COM: might wanna consider CrossWorks too 2013-07-05T09:13:29 < dongs> its gcc-based, but no aids 2013-07-05T09:13:33 < dongs> and commercial license is only 1.5k 2013-07-05T09:13:38 < dongs> cheapest keil is 2-3k 2013-07-05T09:13:39 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-05T09:13:48 < dongs> i have the $150 edu version 2013-07-05T09:13:48 * emeb_mac has a personal Crossworks license. 2013-07-05T09:13:52 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-05T09:13:53 < dongs> or that 2013-07-05T09:13:56 < dongs> personal or whatever it is 2013-07-05T09:13:57 < emeb_mac> can't do commercial with it tho 2013-07-05T09:14:03 < emeb_mac> but only $150 2013-07-05T09:14:09 < R2COM> personal is 150$ ? 2013-07-05T09:14:13 < dongs> yes 2013-07-05T09:14:13 < emeb_mac> ya 2013-07-05T09:14:20 < R2COM> you say its good huh? 2013-07-05T09:14:28 < dongs> its good for being a gcc wrapper 2013-07-05T09:14:35 < emeb_mac> haven't used it in years. 2013-07-05T09:14:35 < dongs> and debugging etc works out of the box 2013-07-05T09:14:40 < dongs> without dicking with gdbservers and shit 2013-07-05T09:14:41 < emeb_mac> looked OK back when tho 2013-07-05T09:14:45 < dongs> natively supports jlink/stlink/etc. 2013-07-05T09:15:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-05T09:15:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T09:15:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T09:15:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T09:15:32 < R2COM> the only thing I guess is 2013-07-05T09:15:42 < R2COM> with Keil you get full support etc, with crossworks you wont 2013-07-05T09:15:46 < R2COM> even thought its not free 2013-07-05T09:15:52 < R2COM> I mean simple license 2013-07-05T09:16:06 < emeb_mac> what's Keil cost ? 2013-07-05T09:16:13 < R2COM> isnt it 5$k? 2013-07-05T09:16:24 < emeb_mac> *cough* 2013-07-05T09:16:30 < PaulFertser> dongs: btw, without gcc and other free software you'd have prices for commercial tools even higher, that's basic economics. 2013-07-05T09:17:16 < dongs> cheapest keil w/256k limitation is ~2k-ish 2013-07-05T09:17:26 * emeb_mac is old enough to remember when Sun charged for their compiler. 2013-07-05T09:17:30 < dongs> R2COM: well, you DO get support with crossworks commercial license 2013-07-05T09:17:32 < dongs> not wiht personal, no 2013-07-05T09:17:40 < dongs> personal = forums or fuck off 2013-07-05T09:17:43 < emeb_mac> then gcc came along and the Sun compiler became free. 2013-07-05T09:18:06 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-05T09:18:08 < baird> heh, I remember that. 2013-07-05T09:18:19 < PaulFertser> dongs: yeah, in your world you pay just for lifting arbitrary limitations that have no technical grounds but pure business shit. 2013-07-05T09:19:15 < R2COM> or 2013-07-05T09:19:35 < R2COM> hmm so fot stm32 one needs ARM version for crossowrks right 2013-07-05T09:19:50 < dongs> yea 2013-07-05T09:19:51 < emeb_mac> makes sense 2013-07-05T09:19:56 < dongs> they also have a working trial 2013-07-05T09:20:04 < R2COM> yeah i saw, like 30 days 2013-07-05T09:20:06 < dongs> but it'll take a few hours to get license since tehy manually activate it 2013-07-05T09:20:37 < R2COM> and by ARM they mean really any arm on any chip, doesnt matter ST or anything right? 2013-07-05T09:20:39 < emeb_mac> I bought mine about 7 yrs ago. Wonder if I can update to the latest. 2013-07-05T09:20:39 < R2COM> the onl;y thing is 2013-07-05T09:20:46 < R2COM> developer will have to writ his own linker script? 2013-07-05T09:21:06 < PaulFertser> And your beloved microsoft uses plenty of free software too, bsd-licensed, of course, mentioned in all the "about" "dialogues". 2013-07-05T09:21:23 < emeb_mac> PaulFertser: sssshhhh... 2013-07-05T09:21:39 < PaulFertser> st stdperiph library comes with example linker scripts for several popular linkers already. 2013-07-05T09:21:41 < emeb_mac> dirty little secrets, dirty little lies 2013-07-05T09:21:46 < R2COM> if i install crowworks will there be again lots of faggotry to get the working linker script etc? or its like, choose your device and go program? 2013-07-05T09:21:58 < R2COM> ah 2013-07-05T09:21:59 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-05T09:22:06 < R2COM> but I wont use stdperiph 2013-07-05T09:22:10 < emeb_mac> the latter - at least last time I used it. 2013-07-05T09:22:19 < emeb_mac> eh stdperiph is OK 2013-07-05T09:22:26 < R2COM> nah its not.. 2013-07-05T09:22:39 < emeb_mac> why not? 2013-07-05T09:22:46 < R2COM> I got all my main peripherals working with hand coding + stmref4xxx.h file 2013-07-05T09:22:54 < R2COM> because its shit 2013-07-05T09:22:56 < emeb_mac> I did that a few times 2013-07-05T09:22:57 < R2COM> its a mess 2013-07-05T09:23:05 < R2COM> every time I look into it I have more questions than answers 2013-07-05T09:23:17 < emeb_mac> gets old having to recode everything when you switch architectures 2013-07-05T09:23:34 < R2COM> what you mean gets old? 2013-07-05T09:23:37 < emeb_mac> at least w/ stdperiph the recoding is minimized 2013-07-05T09:24:23 < emeb_mac> I mean when I move code from an STM32F1 to an STM32F0 or F4 all the peripherals are different 2013-07-05T09:24:29 < R2COM> yeah 2013-07-05T09:24:36 < emeb_mac> stdperiph gives a certain amount of abstraction 2013-07-05T09:24:43 < emeb_mac> so it's quicker to adapt 2013-07-05T09:25:08 < R2COM> what I want is, decent IDE, which would just provide normal work without shit like I descroibed today.. and get a working linker script 2013-07-05T09:25:09 < R2COM> thats it 2013-07-05T09:25:20 < R2COM> its not problem for me to look into datasheet to figure out bits 2013-07-05T09:25:20 < emeb_mac> but I'll grant you, stdperiph is a pig when it comes to code space 2013-07-05T09:25:23 < PaulFertser> stdperiph is annoying crap, written by incompetent coders. 2013-07-05T09:25:55 < emeb_mac> I did one product on an F100 - 2k in hand-coded, 10k w/ stdperiph 2013-07-05T09:26:29 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: hm, have you figured out where the main difference came from? 2013-07-05T09:26:58 < emeb_mac> PaulFertser: stdperiph has a lot of asserts built in to check values/ranges 2013-07-05T09:27:06 < emeb_mac> dunno if those get compiled or not 2013-07-05T09:27:08 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: yes, but they get optimised away 2013-07-05T09:27:21 < PaulFertser> Those runtime asserts are so silly it's not even funny. 2013-07-05T09:27:29 < emeb_mac> lots of stupid data structures that boil down to just writing registers 2013-07-05T09:27:34 < PaulFertser> But if you do it right, they get optimised away really. 2013-07-05T09:28:02 < PaulFertser> Yes, but you do not usually have that much of initialisation code. 2013-07-05T09:28:09 < emeb_mac> whatevs - still had a 5x difference in code size w/o it. 2013-07-05T09:28:29 < R2COM> its just I was mainly playing with my discovery board 2013-07-05T09:28:35 < dongs> R2COM> if i install crowworks will there be again lots of faggotry to get the working linker script etc? or its like, choose your device and go program? 2013-07-05T09:28:39 < dongs> nothing to choose 2013-07-05T09:28:41 < dongs> defaults work fine 2013-07-05T09:28:43 < R2COM> and I spent little time fixing eclipse+gnuarm+atollic server 2013-07-05T09:28:48 < dongs> and y ou arent forced to use their stuff or anything 2013-07-05T09:28:52 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: Probably you had printf pulled in by something or the like, not really that library's fault i'd guess. 2013-07-05T09:28:54 < dongs> you can just have local copies of ST files / CMSIS/whatever 2013-07-05T09:28:54 < R2COM> nice 2013-07-05T09:29:38 < emeb_mac> PaulFertser: Dunno. didn't use any of that, so if it pulled it in then it wasn't my choice. 2013-07-05T09:30:34 -!- baird [~cjb@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-05T09:31:22 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: probably it was your oversight still. 8k of code can hardly be explained by those silly initialisation stucts you know. 2013-07-05T09:31:24 < emeb_mac> that said, I'm happy to use stdperiph if it helps me get stuff running faster 2013-07-05T09:32:49 < emeb_mac> PaulFertser: yah - maybe there's a magical compiler switch that'll make it all rainbows & unicorns. :) 2013-07-05T09:33:28 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: ffunction-sections for the compiler and gc-sections for the linker, for starters. 2013-07-05T09:33:51 < emeb_mac> yep - already using those. 2013-07-05T09:34:16 < emeb_mac> don't recall if I had them turned on back then though, so it could be. 2013-07-05T09:35:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T09:36:14 < PaulFertser> Funny thing, you call faggotry what I call "understanding your tools", and I call faggotry dealing with all the proprietary "solutions" (everyone with its own quirks and limitations), and you call that "getting work done". Strange days indeed. 2013-07-05T09:37:18 < emeb_mac> hmm. I didn't call anything faggotry. I'm happy to use FOSS stuff. 2013-07-05T09:37:19 < PaulFertser> "Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high" lol 2013-07-05T09:37:34 < PaulFertser> emeb_mac: i'm talking about the proprietary software proponents here, not you. 2013-07-05T09:37:40 < emeb_mac> :) 2013-07-05T09:37:47 < R2COM> when I buy scope, I want to use a scope, my purpose is not to tear it apart and spend all my time to understand it 2013-07-05T09:37:49 < R2COM> its that simple 2013-07-05T09:38:11 < R2COM> if I want to build scopes, I want to know how some work, I would tear them down, sure... but thats different thing 2013-07-05T09:42:26 < PaulFertser> R2COM: the problem with "professional software tools" is that they work to an extent, but are not usually flexible enough when you need it. Professional scopes usually just work, granted. But for the software tools you first pay a lot, often only to discover later that in some particular scenario you need it doesn't and the seller refuses to fix it. Or asks you to buy some "more professional" license, without any guarantees, again. 2013-07-05T09:44:08 < emeb_mac> ooohhh - you wanted WHEELS with that car? 2013-07-05T09:44:25 < emeb_mac> that'll be extra. :) 2013-07-05T09:44:26 < R2COM> I use professional software tools all the time, yes they have problems but nothing is idea, the main thing is, they let me do things which other software simply cant 2013-07-05T09:44:44 < R2COM> (althought it might not be quite true with microcontroller programming...i was talking about other types of software) 2013-07-05T09:45:51 < R2COM> I have some limited amount of time to play wioth mirocontrollers 2013-07-05T09:45:56 < R2COM> its not my primary thing at all 2013-07-05T09:46:14 < R2COM> and with that very limited amount, i want to program them and make work, not fuck around with IDEs 2013-07-05T09:46:51 < emeb_mac> but you do have time to rewrite the low-level hardware abstraction layers. :) 2013-07-05T09:47:21 < R2COM> well its part of the programming, because I want to know how its done and what my code does 2013-07-05T09:47:30 < emeb_mac> fair enough 2013-07-05T09:47:43 < R2COM> I did that before on PIC32 mainly, that was my primary uC to play with 2013-07-05T09:47:49 < emeb_mac> blech 2013-07-05T09:48:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T09:48:45 < emeb_mac> tried PIC32 stuff - couldn't get excited about it. 2013-07-05T09:49:04 < R2COM> theres nothing exciting about it, its just does its simple job 2013-07-05T09:49:12 < R2COM> if you want to get excited you can go to strip bar 2013-07-05T09:49:16 < emeb_mac> har 2013-07-05T09:49:23 < dongs> lol pic32 2013-07-05T09:49:48 < emeb_mac> I know the guy who was lead engr on the first PIC32 products. He wasn't excited about it either. 2013-07-05T09:49:50 < R2COM> well I know its not cool devices or something 2013-07-05T09:50:06 < R2COM> he was shitty lead engineer then 2013-07-05T09:50:08 < emeb_mac> so he left and writes software now. :P 2013-07-05T09:50:14 < R2COM> that he wasnt optiistic about stuff he does 2013-07-05T09:50:20 < R2COM> well 2013-07-05T09:50:26 < R2COM> or maybe he wasnt as good at it 2013-07-05T09:51:12 < R2COM> also if I'm correct they are using something like 0.35um process... 2013-07-05T09:51:19 < R2COM> nothing state of the art 2013-07-05T09:53:28 < emeb_mac> Took a look at the MIPS ISA. True RISC - all the instructions are extremely simple. 2013-07-05T09:53:48 < emeb_mac> I guess compiler writers love it. 2013-07-05T09:53:50 < R2COM> I did some small programs on it with purely mips assembly long time ago 2013-07-05T09:54:02 < emeb_mac> wow 2013-07-05T09:54:15 < emeb_mac> seemed painful when I contemplated it. 2013-07-05T09:54:25 < R2COM> but those were simple stuff like moving stuff from registers, controlling ports, countring stuff and toggling on/off things 2013-07-05T09:54:56 < R2COM> but later I used their C compiler 2013-07-05T09:55:03 < R2COM> which i guess comes from gccc maybe not sure... 2013-07-05T09:55:19 < R2COM> so yeah, theres nothing exciting about it 2013-07-05T09:56:11 < PaulFertser> The story of MIPS is interesting from another point of view: some professional lawyers fighting some other professional lawyers spent so much money that the real work on improving and spreading the architucture got seriously hurt. 2013-07-05T09:56:38 < emeb_mac> lawyers. *eyeroll* 2013-07-05T09:56:57 < emeb_mac> shakespeare was right 2013-07-05T09:57:12 < PaulFertser> Professional tools and lawyers go hand in hand together, that's how real business works. 2013-07-05T09:57:42 < PaulFertser> The brothers Wright story is another example of professional business. 2013-07-05T09:59:00 < R2COM> heh i still cant add linker script to coocox project 2013-07-05T09:59:01 < R2COM> damnt 2013-07-05T09:59:20 < R2COM> browsing all its menus etc, for an option to give path to it, 2013-07-05T09:59:22 < R2COM> or browse for it 2013-07-05T09:59:41 < emeb_mac> see above: Coocox isn't very configurable 2013-07-05T09:59:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-05T09:59:57 < R2COM> ok I heard that already 2013-07-05T10:00:03 < R2COM> but is there a way to add fucking linker script? 2013-07-05T10:00:05 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T10:00:05 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T10:00:05 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T10:00:09 < R2COM> then how does it compile? 2013-07-05T10:00:34 < emeb_mac> it may pull one in from outside the build area 2013-07-05T10:00:40 < emeb_mac> temporarily 2013-07-05T10:00:46 < PaulFertser> R2COM: -Wl,-TC:\CooCox\CoIDE\configuration\ProgramData\test3/arm-gcc-link.ld 2013-07-05T10:01:04 < PaulFertser> That's from your paste 2013-07-05T10:01:04 < R2COM> PaulFertser: where should I write in this command? just in console? 2013-07-05T10:01:08 < R2COM> yeah 2013-07-05T10:01:10 < R2COM> but 2013-07-05T10:01:11 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-05T10:01:24 < PaulFertser> So it does use a linker script. 2013-07-05T10:01:27 < emeb_mac> maybe add to the linker command options in the project settings? 2013-07-05T10:03:05 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-05T10:03:11 < R2COM> i changed that file with real linker script 2013-07-05T10:03:20 < R2COM> it still compiles text data bss etc to 0 2013-07-05T10:04:24 < R2COM> yeah...it doesnt work, so it still needs some time to work around too..to get it to work 2013-07-05T10:04:30 < PaulFertser> R2COM: test3.map should show you what happens. 2013-07-05T10:09:58 < R2COM> well actually after I changed to legit linker script I used before, it now doesnt work at all 2013-07-05T10:10:06 < R2COM> it for some reason changes it to its own default one 2013-07-05T10:10:12 < R2COM> overrites inside that folder 2013-07-05T10:11:08 < R2COM> so yea it will require some investigation 2013-07-05T10:15:40 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@1.sub-75-233-9.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T10:17:06 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-05T10:29:56 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@149.sub-75-196-112.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T10:30:58 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest35110 2013-07-05T10:31:07 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-05T10:31:07 -!- Guest35110 [~bjfree@1.sub-75-233-9.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-05T10:35:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-05T10:37:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-05T10:45:19 < R2COM> I am just wondering Keil is not using gcc? it uses some sort of its on proprietary compiler or what? 2013-07-05T10:48:12 < dongs> keil compiler is their own armcc. 2013-07-05T10:48:21 < dongs> it produces code lightyears better than anything gcc has ever produced 2013-07-05T10:48:26 < dongs> smaller, faster, etc. 2013-07-05T10:48:50 < R2COM> ok so its specific compiler designed to do good for those processors 2013-07-05T10:49:46 < R2COM> hm and crossworks is gcc wrapper, it just works fine, but well thats why it costs much less then than keil 2013-07-05T10:49:55 < R2COM> okay 2013-07-05T10:52:22 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-05T10:52:46 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T10:52:54 < PaulFertser> dongs: are you a fiction writer by any chance? "Lightyears" sounds so dramatic, must be good for sci-fi. 2013-07-05T10:54:52 < dongs> PaulFertser: i'd say 20% code size reduction is pretty dramatic. 2013-07-05T10:56:19 < PaulFertser> dongs: if you're near the flash boundary already, yes. But otherwise, probably no, many parts come with quite some extra flash you won't be using anyway. 2013-07-05T10:56:25 < zyp> I'd say code size is rather irrelevant 2013-07-05T11:02:11 < R2COM> PaulFertser: so what do you use, plain gcc? 2013-07-05T11:02:20 < R2COM> and openocd 2013-07-05T11:02:28 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-05T11:02:42 < dongs> zyp: code executing from flash, smaller = faster. 2013-07-05T11:04:22 < PaulFertser> R2COM: I use gcc as provided by the gcc-arm-emdedded project (supported by ARM), yes. And I use OpenOCD at work with a "dumb" olimex adapter, and I also have an stlink reflashed with BMP (it works directly with gdb from g-a-e). 2013-07-05T11:04:58 < R2COM> I think I was using so far gnuarm 2013-07-05T11:05:19 < R2COM> with eclipse, for discoey board 2013-07-05T11:06:06 < PaulFertser> At work i'm using linker scripts, startup and system files straight from stdperiph examples for Attolic. 2013-07-05T11:07:34 < dongs> are those licensed for "work" use? 2013-07-05T11:07:44 < dongs> i was under impression atollic shit has some retarded license unless you actually paid for it 2013-07-05T11:08:22 < PaulFertser> The examples have the same "liberal" (i.e. use anyhow you want but only on stm32) licence as the rest of stdperiph. 2013-07-05T11:08:36 < dongs> ah 2013-07-05T11:08:49 < dongs> those things that included with stdperiphlib sample projects? 2013-07-05T11:08:57 < PaulFertser> Yes 2013-07-05T11:09:04 < R2COM> work and OpenOCD 2013-07-05T11:09:10 < dongs> lol, right. 2013-07-05T11:10:06 < zyp> dongs, not really 2013-07-05T11:10:29 < zyp> more inlining = more duplicated code = larger, but also faster since you avoid call overhead 2013-07-05T11:12:22 -!- Matt_soton is now known as mattbrejza 2013-07-05T11:12:57 < dongs> pfft 2013-07-05T11:13:14 < dongs> more inlining of shitty code = more duplicated shitty code = slower than less inlining of nonshitty code 2013-07-05T11:14:13 < zyp> that might very well be true 2013-07-05T11:14:46 < dongs> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8BvDzWWmzk check out my power supply working 2013-07-05T11:14:50 < zyp> but code size is still a pretty useless comparison 2013-07-05T11:16:44 < PaulFertser> R2COM: btw, we can use unlicensed copies of Keil or any other software freely, and my coworkers were doing that for some older ARM7 chips. But somehow they now switched to olimex+openocd+gcc+eclipse for stm32 now, even though none of them is a free software enthusiast. 2013-07-05T11:16:46 < R2COM> I wonder if video with same name thumbnail close on e right is more interesting 2013-07-05T11:20:23 < R2COM> but yea 2013-07-05T11:20:25 < R2COM> cool supply 2013-07-05T11:21:40 -!- neuro_sys_ [~neuro_sys@2605:f700:c0:1::7658:524c] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T11:21:57 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.238.133] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-05T11:22:57 < dongie> fucking feenode is dying 2013-07-05T11:24:12 -!- dongs_ [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T11:24:25 < R2COM> damn late to sleep again 2013-07-05T11:25:16 < R2COM> dong is that for rc stuff 2013-07-05T11:25:30 < R2COM> supply to test rc drivers/motors 2013-07-05T11:28:49 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: dongs, neuro_sys 2013-07-05T11:30:23 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 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2013-07-05T12:40:44 < dongs_> but left side is like.. some kinda solid thing 2013-07-05T12:40:54 < dongs_> and yeah i got solder on the right one 2013-07-05T12:41:04 < dongs_> but still even design looks different 2013-07-05T12:42:36 < zyp> ah, right 2013-07-05T12:42:50 < zyp> what's this? a FET? 2013-07-05T12:43:53 < zyp> the single corner pin is gate 2013-07-05T12:44:01 < zyp> so yeah 2013-07-05T12:45:25 < Guest53363> I like how you have the equipment to make fancy photos to see stuff like this dongs_ :) 2013-07-05T12:45:28 -!- Guest53363 is now known as Steffanx 2013-07-05T12:45:44 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T12:45:44 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T12:45:46 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-05T12:52:25 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-05T12:55:17 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 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the purpose is doing the same with usb I guess 2013-07-05T18:12:53 < zyp> then I don't get the basis for the criticism 2013-07-05T18:12:56 -!- gxti_ is now known as gxti 2013-07-05T18:31:02 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T18:31:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T18:32:09 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@110.sub-75-233-177.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T18:33:08 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-05T18:36:58 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-05T18:47:34 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T18:50:38 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T18:50:38 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-05T18:50:38 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T18:52:05 -!- You're now known as jpa- 2013-07-05T18:53:03 < jpa-> Thorn: carebear & cdc-acm.. it's classic :) 2013-07-05T18:53:34 < dongs> zyp: probably just means hes a fucking faggot. 2013-07-05T18:58:26 < jpa-> well, atleast he is consistent in the point 2013-07-05T18:58:45 < jpa-> in a way, it is much better to use custom device classes instead of emulating a serial port for everything 2013-07-05T18:58:54 < jpa-> but in practice.. a serial port is often fine 2013-07-05T18:59:02 < Thorn> I thought it was HID that set him off lol 2013-07-05T18:59:12 < jpa-> well HID does that too 2013-07-05T18:59:25 < jpa-> though only if you use it for non-HID devices 2013-07-05T18:59:34 < dongs> Better use hid for everything 2013-07-05T18:59:42 < dongs> JTAG over HID 2013-07-05T18:59:45 < dongs> mention this. 2013-07-05T19:01:38 < Thorn> dongs you should visit #libusb sometime. it would be a nuclear blast lol. 2013-07-05T19:02:18 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-05T19:02:30 < Laurenceb> just tried to invert a 100000x100000 matrix 2013-07-05T19:02:35 < dongs> http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/DTA-2131/index.asp I should clone this 2013-07-05T19:02:38 < zyp> oh, right, carebear is Peter Stuge 2013-07-05T19:02:39 < Laurenceb> matlab was going slow... 2013-07-05T19:02:43 < zyp> I forgot about that :p 2013-07-05T19:02:54 < Laurenceb> cuz its running entirely from swap 2013-07-05T19:03:13 < kfoltman> you can always encode your data as 7-bit and use sysex through MIDIStreaming 2013-07-05T19:03:24 < Laurenceb> sy-sex 2013-07-05T19:03:48 < gxti> and then there's the printer bootloader 2013-07-05T19:04:06 < dongs> USB printer? 2013-07-05T19:04:12 < zyp> I've considered writing a HID bootloader 2013-07-05T19:04:52 < gxti> yeah this: http://fourwalledcubicle.com/blog/2013/03/the-new-lufa-bootloader/ 2013-07-05T19:05:04 < gxti> clever in an awful sort of way. also, in b4 "old" 2013-07-05T19:05:55 < dongs> url looks old 2013-07-05T19:05:58 < kfoltman> WTF, someone actually using MIDI for a bootloader? 2013-07-05T19:06:14 < gxti> probably. being correct is sort of irrelevant for bootloaders. 2013-07-05T19:06:17 < dongs> https://github.com/pichenettes/avr-midi-bootloader haha 2013-07-05T19:06:20 < kfoltman> makes perfect sense from "access it from userspace" point of view 2013-07-05T19:06:23 < gxti> more important that it's easy for tards (erm, clients) to use 2013-07-05T19:06:51 < dongs> better question is, can you load new program by pressing keys on piano 2013-07-05T19:07:35 < jpa-> if operating systems didn't make raw USB access so difficult (i.e. need messing around with drivers), we would need less of these hacks 2013-07-05T19:09:02 < kfoltman> dongs: you can't make an off-the-shelf device generate an arbitrary sysex (well, except the off-the-shelf device is a general-purpose computer :P) 2013-07-05T19:09:21 < kfoltman> I mean, I know you're kidding, but ... 2013-07-05T19:09:34 < kfoltman> except *if 2013-07-05T19:09:47 < dongs> kfoltman: yeah but you can just rewrite bootloader to use noteon/off commands.. 2013-07-05T19:09:56 < dongs> then you can play out random shit to program. 2013-07-05T19:10:02 < kfoltman> dongs: +1 2013-07-05T19:10:22 < dongs> sysex has the advantage of having some useful payload tho.. 2013-07-05T19:10:30 < dongs> it would be a lot slower with just notes. 2013-07-05T19:10:33 < kfoltman> you can make it more painful by using velocity part of the bitstream ;) 2013-07-05T19:10:37 < dongs> haha 2013-07-05T19:11:52 < kfoltman> hmm, you can use 6 bits of the command word (4 bits channel + 2 bits for note on/note off/cc/poly pressure), 7 bits of the first arg and 7 bits of the second... that's almost efficient 2013-07-05T19:11:54 < emeb> did I hear someone mention MIDI? 2013-07-05T19:12:05 < jpa-> use only the bottom bits so that you can make it sound like music while flashing the firmware 2013-07-05T19:12:34 < kfoltman> jpa-: 4to5 encoding to dorian scale notes or something ;) 2013-07-05T19:13:01 < kfoltman> might be 4to6 perhaps 2013-07-05T19:13:34 < emeb> lol 2013-07-05T19:13:41 < zyp> why not do usb audio, then just ship the upgrade as a music file :p 2013-07-05T19:13:51 < emeb> sounds like noise 2013-07-05T19:13:56 < Thorn> a korg keyboard instead of panel switches to key in the program? 2013-07-05T19:13:57 < emeb> steganography 2013-07-05T19:14:13 < zyp> emeb, yeah 2013-07-05T19:14:34 < zyp> a challenge might be getting around resampling by the OS 2013-07-05T19:14:47 < zyp> and other sounds might interfere 2013-07-05T19:16:27 < kfoltman> just implement a modem 2013-07-05T19:17:02 < dongs> zyp: erm, of course you don't make it bits == music,, you sample and average + have some FEC 2013-07-05T19:18:08 < jpa-> of course 2013-07-05T19:18:08 < dongs> oh, we're talking USB speaker type shit. 2013-07-05T19:18:10 < dongs> but still 2013-07-05T19:18:18 < jpa-> that is the standard way of making audio based bootloaders, right? 2013-07-05T19:18:21 < dongs> why nto just use cassette tape? 2013-07-05T19:23:41 < dongs> zx spectrum recording method sounds pretty good 2013-07-05T19:24:24 < dongs> 244us for 0, 977us for 1. just pwm 2013-07-05T19:24:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.219.233] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-05T19:25:23 -!- mattbrejza [~mattbrejz@109.74.204.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-05T19:26:05 < zyp> there is one major problem though, there is no flow control, so you can't tell the host to wait while the flash is busy writing 2013-07-05T19:27:04 < emeb> Just put a big buffer on it. 2013-07-05T19:27:10 < dongs> eh, you dont need to stop cpu while writing right? 2013-07-05T19:27:22 < dongs> just continue getting crap into a buffer while another one writes. 2013-07-05T19:27:35 < jpa-> you just need to adapt the bitrate so that it can keep up 2013-07-05T19:27:53 < jpa-> buffers don't help that much 2013-07-05T19:28:00 < jpa-> because there is always less RAM than flash 2013-07-05T19:28:04 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-05T19:28:19 < zyp> well, my code is usually way smaller than ram, so it might be ok anyway 2013-07-05T19:28:25 < zyp> :p 2013-07-05T19:28:36 < akaWolf> )) 2013-07-05T19:28:44 < kfoltman> jpa: just add pauses every now and then ;) 2013-07-05T19:28:51 < kfoltman> like atari or commodore 2013-07-05T19:28:57 < kfoltman> block-based format 2013-07-05T19:29:56 < dongs> use a graphical LCD 2013-07-05T19:30:01 < dongs> and load program into lcd memory 2013-07-05T19:30:04 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@110.sub-75-233-177.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-05T19:30:08 < dongs> then copy it back to flash when received + CRC'd 2013-07-05T19:30:41 < kfoltman> what's wrong with MTP/camera protocol? 2013-07-05T19:30:47 < dongs> no FUCK YOU 2013-07-05T19:30:49 < dongs> mtp fucking SUCKS 2013-07-05T19:30:55 < dongs> rageeeeeeeeeee 2013-07-05T19:30:58 < kfoltman> haha 2013-07-05T19:31:13 < kfoltman> is it a bad protocol really, or just full of bad implementations? 2013-07-05T19:31:37 < dongs> its fucking terrible 2013-07-05T19:32:00 < dongs> no raw filesystem access, so everything is emulated 2013-07-05T19:32:19 < dongs> and yeah, windows implementation of it is aids 2013-07-05T19:32:30 < dongs> no idea about other shit but since it sucks so bad I cant imagine it being much better 2013-07-05T19:32:45 < zyp> yeah, I wish there were defined a decent generic filesystem level protocol for USB 2013-07-05T19:33:24 < dongs> haha,m mtp is a microsoft standard 2013-07-05T19:33:27 < dongs> news2me 2013-07-05T19:33:37 < zyp> mtp is «media library» level, as it is just an expansion of ptp, which deals with picture libraries 2013-07-05T19:33:46 < zyp> and msc is block level 2013-07-05T19:33:50 < zyp> need something between there 2013-07-05T19:33:54 < dongs> right 2013-07-05T19:33:56 < kfoltman> dongs: well, raw filesystem access is bad from concurrent access point of view (I mean, the device needs to access its filesystem too) 2013-07-05T19:34:18 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-05T19:34:24 < kfoltman> well, what zyp says, basically 2013-07-05T19:34:46 < kfoltman> msc was fine for mp3 players and so on 2013-07-05T19:34:58 < kfoltman> for phones, it's a bit less attractive 2013-07-05T19:35:02 < zyp> think nfs vs iscsi 2013-07-05T19:35:06 < kfoltman> yup 2013-07-05T19:35:09 < dongs> Proper MTP support was added to gvfs in version 1.15.2 (2013-01-15)[11] by Philip Langdale.[12][13] This gives GNOME desktop apps like Nautilus, gedit and file-roller the ability to access files on an MTP device. 2013-07-05T19:35:12 < zyp> msc is like iscsi, we need something like nfs 2013-07-05T19:35:13 < dongs> haha 2013-07-05T19:35:16 < dongs> 2013 and lunix just got MTP support? 2013-07-05T19:35:38 < dongs> zyp: but iscsi can be shared 2013-07-05T19:35:40 < dongs> access 2013-07-05T19:36:05 < zyp> not if the filesystem doesn't support concurrent access 2013-07-05T19:36:15 < zyp> same problem as with msc 2013-07-05T19:36:33 < dongs> anyay im really pissed dixus4 only supports mtp 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bad, but i guess you can find the same for 1$ on ebay :) 2013-07-06T01:46:50 <+Steffanx> oh, it's custom 2013-07-06T01:46:50 < Thorn> I got something like that with my Chinese fpga board. it's as cheap as you'd expect 2013-07-06T01:50:00 < Laurenceb_> i guess its just generic 2013-07-06T01:50:17 < Laurenceb_> so theres probably similar stuff elsewhere 2013-07-06T01:50:32 < gxti> it's an impressive price for sparkfun anyway 2013-07-06T01:50:34 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T01:50:39 < Laurenceb_> heh 2013-07-06T01:58:58 <+Steffanx> That for sure gxti 2013-07-06T02:11:37 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T02:38:46 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-06T02:44:32 < qyx_> Steffanx: i got universal tv remotes for 1.27$ 2013-07-06T02:44:41 < qyx_> surprisingly they are working 2013-07-06T02:59:39 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@195.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 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Red light district :P 2013-07-06T14:07:45 <+Steffanx> Smoke some pod.. try some mushrooms and jump out of a window. 2013-07-06T14:08:07 <+Steffanx> No, I dont know what people normally do in Amsterdam 2013-07-06T14:08:29 <+Steffanx> I've never been there as there is nothing in my interest 2013-07-06T14:11:06 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T14:35:18 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T14:37:35 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-06T14:39:35 -!- Laurence2 [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T14:41:44 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-06T14:53:59 <+Steffanx> where is the trip going to zyp? 2013-07-06T14:55:46 < dongs> israel 2013-07-06T15:18:00 < zyp> korea 2013-07-06T15:20:32 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.78.3.226] has quit [] 2013-07-06T15:41:39 <+Steffanx> another holiday? 2013-07-06T15:43:29 < zyp> no, work 2013-07-06T15:43:48 < dongs> best korea? 2013-07-06T15:43:53 < zyp> nah 2013-07-06T15:44:50 < dongs> unfortunate 2013-07-06T15:45:02 < dongs> where at? 2013-07-06T15:45:08 < zyp> seoul 2013-07-06T15:46:05 < dongs> sounds ghetto 2013-07-06T15:46:42 < zyp> dunno, never been there before 2013-07-06T15:47:17 < zyp> I kinda expect it to be like tokyo except I won't understand anything of what anybody is saying 2013-07-06T15:52:50 < dongs> tehres a couple words that sound same as in japanese. 2013-07-06T15:52:55 < dongs> but they're probably not very useful for yotu 2013-07-06T15:53:56 < zyp> heh 2013-07-06T15:53:59 < zyp> which ones? 2013-07-06T15:54:24 < dongs> dont remember off hte top of my head but theres definitely a few 2013-07-06T15:54:58 < zyp> similar by coincidence or common origin? 2013-07-06T15:55:45 < dongs> unsure. 2013-07-06T15:55:47 < dongs> sounds very close 2013-07-06T15:55:53 < dongs> and obviosuly same meaning. 2013-07-06T16:25:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-06T16:27:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T16:30:46 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.134] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T16:40:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T16:53:32 < dongs> hm 2013-07-06T16:53:38 < dongs> i need to find cheap hdmi tvs diode thing 2013-07-06T16:55:10 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/IP4284CZ10-TBR,115/568-8763-1-ND/2810521 way too much 2013-07-06T17:02:58 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ESD7104MUTAG/ESD7104MUTAGOSCT-ND/3487538 2013-07-06T17:03:01 < dongs> fuck yes 2013-07-06T17:03:22 < dongs> and its in stock in JP 2013-07-06T17:03:23 < dongs> nice 2013-07-06T17:07:50 < Laurence2> now what you building? 2013-07-06T17:07:57 -!- Laurence2 is now known as Laurenceb_ 2013-07-06T17:08:11 < dongs> nothing, just getting parts for my jewpad panels 2013-07-06T17:08:16 < Laurenceb_> ah 2013-07-06T17:10:50 < dongs> k 2013-07-06T17:10:55 < dongs> sent japs rfq for this stuff 2013-07-06T17:11:03 < dongs> local digikey clone takes paypal :D 2013-07-06T17:11:12 < dongs> and arrives here next day if its jp stock 2013-07-06T17:11:25 < dongs> or in 2-3 days if they're forwarding fromi HK 2013-07-06T17:17:11 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@122.sub-75-196-112.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T17:18:09 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T17:21:43 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@9.sub-75-233-12.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T17:22:31 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest31528 2013-07-06T17:22:41 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T17:22:57 -!- Guest31528 [~bjfree@122.sub-75-196-112.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T17:28:05 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@9.sub-75-233-12.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T17:31:50 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-06T17:36:48 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@158.sub-75-233-175.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T17:37:40 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T17:40:13 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.221.238] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T17:54:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T18:16:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-06T18:44:17 < emeb_mac> seems to be a chat-free zone. 2013-07-06T18:44:39 < emeb_mac> time to try hooking up a codec... 2013-07-06T18:44:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-06T18:45:11 < dongs> seriosuly 2013-07-06T18:45:18 < dongs> emeb_raeg 2013-07-06T18:53:58 < dongs> any pro_EEs 2013-07-06T18:54:01 < dongs> http://search.alkon.net/cgi-bin/pdf.pl?pdfname=murata/DXW21B.pdf 2013-07-06T18:54:07 < dongs> Dimension pic, 2013-07-06T18:54:12 < dongs> pad view is from top or bottom 2013-07-06T18:57:55 < dongs> and what the fuck does "no polarity" mean 2013-07-06T18:57:59 < dongs> does it mean it works either way? 2013-07-06T19:00:38 < qyx_> i assume it doesnt really matter if it is top or bottom view 2013-07-06T19:00:52 < qyx_> in that particular case 2013-07-06T19:01:06 < dongs> izzit? 2013-07-06T19:01:12 < qyx_> also its 75/75, you can rotate it as you want 2013-07-06T19:01:21 < dongs> hmm okay. 2013-07-06T19:01:22 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T19:01:44 < Thorn> aren't all pad drawings top view? 2013-07-06T19:01:52 < dongs> PFFT 2013-07-06T19:01:58 < dongs> you expect THAT to be true? 2013-07-06T19:02:03 < dongs> i have seen datasheets bot hways. 2013-07-06T19:02:05 < dongs> both 2013-07-06T19:02:10 < dongs> crystal faggots like to do 'bottom view' 2013-07-06T19:02:20 < qyx_> but it would be better if some rf guy look on that 2013-07-06T19:02:42 < qyx_> yep, sometimes it is not even written in datasheet if top or bottom 2013-07-06T19:05:36 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T19:09:57 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T19:12:56 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/fFeEf6C.png 2013-07-06T19:15:33 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-06T19:27:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-06T19:30:54 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@158.sub-75-233-175.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T19:37:20 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@29.sub-75-196-90.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T19:38:04 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T19:43:41 < emeb> dongs: what's that? 2013-07-06T19:44:10 < dongs> take a good look 2013-07-06T19:44:12 < Thorn> swastika 2013-07-06T19:44:16 < dongs> ^ 2013-07-06T19:44:44 < emeb> :P 2013-07-06T19:58:31 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T20:04:09 -!- Laurence2 [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T20:11:38 < Laurence2> absmatrix=genabs(wavelngths') 2013-07-06T20:12:39 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T20:13:16 < jpa-> not just spaces anymore, now without e's also! 2013-07-06T20:18:37 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T20:20:37 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-06T20:20:37 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ is now known as trepidaciousMBR 2013-07-06T20:39:32 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-155-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:03:21 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@213.sub-75-233-17.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:05:05 -!- mush [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:05:08 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@29.sub-75-196-90.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T21:05:29 < emeb> hmmm... 2013-07-06T21:05:45 < emeb> for some reason the I2C bus on my F303 is hanging. 2013-07-06T21:06:37 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as Guest57693 2013-07-06T21:07:02 < emeb> SCL drops and stays there, TXIS never asserts 2013-07-06T21:07:17 -!- mush [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-06T21:07:42 -!- Guest57693 [~bjfree@213.sub-75-233-17.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T21:07:48 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:08:27 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T21:11:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:16:07 <+Steffanx> zyp, you are into this.. does libopencm3 do usb host? 2013-07-06T21:16:14 < zyp> no 2013-07-06T21:16:40 <+Steffanx> hmm, the stm32 periperhal lib is the only lib that does it? And laks sort of? 2013-07-06T21:16:55 < zyp> laks doesn't do host either 2013-07-06T21:17:12 <+Steffanx> So SD it will be 2013-07-06T21:18:18 < zyp> for what? 2013-07-06T21:18:47 <+Steffanx> To play some mp3s 2013-07-06T21:19:31 <+Steffanx> From a USB stick would be nice, but.. not if i have to use the stm32 peripheral lib ( or when it's too much hassle ) 2013-07-06T21:20:34 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-06T21:21:11 < jpa-> nuttx also kind of does it, but i wouldn't expect it to work 2013-07-06T21:21:55 < zyp> getting a block device from a usb stick would require both scsi initiator, msc host and generic host support 2013-07-06T21:22:22 < jpa-> nuttx apparently supports usb sticks on other platforms, though, and i think someone got it to work on stm32f4 also 2013-07-06T21:22:42 < zyp> probably not too much work to get it working in a limited fashion 2013-07-06T21:23:51 <+Steffanx> Not too much work for someone with some more experience with usb, perhaps 2013-07-06T21:24:08 < Laurence2> http://hackaday.com/2013/07/05/macbook-pro-retina-display-with-a-normal-computer/ 2013-07-06T21:24:11 < Laurence2> copycat 2013-07-06T21:24:15 < zyp> as a host, you are in control, as opposed to a device which must satisfy demands from the host 2013-07-06T21:24:22 < jpa-> Steffanx: go and tell CareBear that you don't want to learn about usb ;) 2013-07-06T21:24:40 <+Steffanx> I do, i do, but. 2013-07-06T21:24:49 < zyp> for your purpose, only enumerating one device at a time is probably good enough, which means you can drop hub support 2013-07-06T21:24:53 <+Steffanx> And i dont know a CareBear 2013-07-06T21:25:02 < zyp> and at that point, host is probably easier to do than device 2013-07-06T21:25:02 < jpa-> zyp: yet the device may decide "i'm not going to speak to a crazy host like you" 2013-07-06T21:25:24 < jpa-> so it may be painful to debug 2013-07-06T21:25:40 < zyp> jpa-, the device is bound by spec to do what the host says, as long as the host doesn't get too crazy 2013-07-06T21:27:05 < zyp> hmm, the lowlevel code for host is probably not harder than the lowlevel code for device 2013-07-06T21:27:06 < jpa-> i would expect them to have some quirks.. though maybe not so much for normal usb sticks 2013-07-06T21:27:26 < jpa-> but just think about how crazy usb MSC the stlink has :P 2013-07-06T21:27:49 < zyp> then you just have to grab the descriptors, scan them for a msc interface, which would probably be the only one, and configuring it 2013-07-06T21:28:00 < zyp> then you can start talking SCSI to it 2013-07-06T21:28:42 < zyp> almost got tempted to try it :p 2013-07-06T21:28:54 < zyp> but no time 2013-07-06T21:29:08 <+Steffanx> :P 2013-07-06T21:29:48 <+Steffanx> It all sounds so easy when you say it 2013-07-06T21:30:01 < zyp> that's what I also were thinking 2013-07-06T21:31:22 < jpa-> everything is easy for zyp :) 2013-07-06T21:31:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.221.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-06T21:31:40 <+Steffanx> Yes, that was my point jpa- . 2013-07-06T21:31:43 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-06T21:31:58 < zyp> the trick is to just take complex stuff and break it down into manageable tasks 2013-07-06T21:32:15 < jpa-> and then to fail in each one of them 2013-07-06T21:32:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:32:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-06T21:32:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:32:53 <+Steffanx> You're even more positive than I am jpa- . Stop that. 2013-07-06T21:34:08 < zyp> :p 2013-07-06T21:35:16 < jpa-> though another good method is to break it down into the easy part and into the impossible part 2013-07-06T21:35:50 < jpa-> for example, here the easy part might be "obtain the libopencm3 usb dev driver" and the impossible part "use it to access the usb stick" 2013-07-06T21:41:55 < zyp> hmm, looking at the host chapter in the RM, it looks pretty simple 2013-07-06T21:42:24 < jpa-> zyp: so you'll have it done by monday? 2013-07-06T21:43:04 < zyp> if I weren't going to korea tomorrow I might have attempted :p 2013-07-06T21:43:10 < jpa-> :P 2013-07-06T21:43:37 <+Steffanx> For you long you explect to be in korea? 2013-07-06T21:44:01 < zyp> two weeks 2013-07-06T21:44:02 <+Steffanx> until the project is done? :) 2013-07-06T21:47:55 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:52:31 < zyp> anyway, don't hold your breath waiting for any code from me, I have too much I want to get done :p 2013-07-06T21:53:21 <+Steffanx> You didn't think i was going to uh? 2013-07-06T21:55:01 < zyp> hard to tell, I don't know how you tend to work with projects since you never seem to have any :p 2013-07-06T21:56:28 < zyp> but you seem like the guy that might actually try out laks for a project if it did what you needed :p 2013-07-06T21:57:12 < zyp> might be crazy enough to, perhaps ;) 2013-07-06T21:57:30 <+Steffanx> Yeah, maybe :) 2013-07-06T21:59:23 <+Steffanx> And i have maybe projects, but most of them and in a very early stage :P 2013-07-06T21:59:34 <+Steffanx> Most of the time after i bought some parts :P 2013-07-06T21:59:49 -!- Lionhearted [~Ranewen@78-1-152-150.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T21:59:51 < zyp> heh 2013-07-06T22:00:28 < zyp> I tend to prototype code before doing boards 2013-07-06T22:01:07 < zyp> I've already prototyped and tested the HID code that's going on a couple of F3 boards that still just exists in my head 2013-07-06T22:01:17 <+Steffanx> True, but when you dont have the stuff to do any prototyping.. 2013-07-06T22:01:38 < zyp> discovery boards, waveshare, etc… 2013-07-06T22:02:01 < zyp> you can hardly claim that you can't afford a couple of discovery boards :p 2013-07-06T22:03:31 <+Steffanx> For most things i plan i need more than that 2013-07-06T22:03:38 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-06T22:03:42 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-155-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-06T22:04:09 < zyp> which reminds me that I haven't had time doing anything with the prototype nfc setup I have here 2013-07-06T22:04:52 <+Steffanx> Had no time or made no time? :) 2013-07-06T22:05:55 < zyp> probably a bit of both 2013-07-06T22:07:16 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/AV2YQ.JPG 2013-07-06T22:11:18 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-06T22:13:11 < emeb> cute 2013-07-06T22:13:29 < emeb> zyp: have you gotten i2c working w/ an F303? 2013-07-06T22:13:48 <+Steffanx> The most cute thing is the paper(F4) vs the stm32F3 :) 2013-07-06T22:13:56 <+Steffanx> ( probably pin compatible .. or just unrelated ) 2013-07-06T22:14:13 < emeb> protective layer of paper - keeps solder blobs off the furniture 2013-07-06T22:15:00 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-06T22:15:55 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-06T22:15:56 < zyp> emeb, no, I haven't done I2C on F3 yet 2013-07-06T22:16:18 < emeb> zyp: thx anyway 2013-07-06T22:17:06 < emeb> can't seem to get this thing to even send the address. Using example code from the F303 eval board & no luck yet. 2013-07-06T22:17:27 < emeb> the clocking architecture is somewhat different from the F4 2013-07-06T22:17:27 < zyp> paper is from when I were figuring out the pin mappings on my F4 quadrotor board 2013-07-06T22:17:49 < jpa-> hey, i have a paper looking exactly like that at work 2013-07-06T22:17:57 < jpa-> the same pink & yellow hilight pens also 2013-07-06T22:18:01 < jpa-> though i also have green 2013-07-06T22:18:02 < zyp> it's been sitting on my desk since I did the design a year and a half ago, the backsides are full of unrelated scribblings 2013-07-06T22:18:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T22:19:18 < zyp> nowadays I mostly use it to look up which pins were swdio and swclk when I hook up the BMP like that 2013-07-06T22:20:13 < jpa-> i wonder why i still don't have bmp 2013-07-06T22:22:04 < zyp> because you've found that openocd works good enough for you, perhaps? 2013-07-06T22:22:36 < jpa-> not really.. for some reason it crashes with some "invalid jtag status" message every 20 minutes or so 2013-07-06T22:22:59 < jpa-> i think the problem is that it is so hard to buy bmp's :P 2013-07-06T22:23:12 < jpa-> and everyone's bmp seems to be different so i don't know what to expect 2013-07-06T22:23:30 < zyp> heh 2013-07-06T22:23:47 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.169] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T22:24:20 < zyp> well, I'm pretty happy with this (emeb's) design at least 2013-07-06T22:25:15 < emeb> dongs probably still has some bare boards. 2013-07-06T22:25:20 < zyp> and apart from the connectors the schematic is identical to the original bmpm 2013-07-06T22:25:27 < jpa-> yeah, but i don't feel like building them myself :P 2013-07-06T22:25:44 < emeb> buy one from zyp - he's got like 5 :) 2013-07-06T22:26:52 < jpa-> i bet he loves them so much that he won't sell :( 2013-07-06T22:26:56 < zyp> I built 5 at least 2013-07-06T22:27:04 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-06T22:27:23 < zyp> I borrowed one away to a friend, and then he told another guy how great it was, and now that guy wants to buy one too 2013-07-06T22:29:35 < zyp> emeb, do you have any bmp2/f373breakout left over? 2013-07-06T22:29:51 < emeb> zyp: ya 2013-07-06T22:29:58 < jpa-> i guess i might flash bmp onto a discovery board some time 2013-07-06T22:30:34 < zyp> this guy were in the US, he wanted a bmp2 and two breakouts, can I point him to you? 2013-07-06T22:31:14 < emeb> zyp: I'd rather just give him gerbers so he can buy 'em from OSHpark. 2013-07-06T22:31:29 < emeb> They're pretty cheap that way. 2013-07-06T22:32:10 < zyp> I bet he's not able to assemble them himself 2013-07-06T22:32:19 < emeb> Ah. 2013-07-06T22:32:37 < emeb> Not interested in hand-building boards for strangers. :) 2013-07-06T22:33:17 < zyp> that's why I wondered if you had some assembled boards left over that you didn't need anymore :p 2013-07-06T22:33:50 < emeb> Right. I only built one or two of each and I'm using them still. 2013-07-06T22:34:23 < zyp> ah, I see 2013-07-06T22:34:52 < emeb> So this is strange: the F303 has an option to derive the I2C clock from either HSI or SYSCLK. 2013-07-06T22:35:08 < emeb> there's a bit for each I2C port in RCC_CFGR3 to control that. 2013-07-06T22:35:45 < jpa-> seems strange to have that for I2C, considering that it's pretty slow speed anyway 2013-07-06T22:35:49 < emeb> Looking at the rcc header in StdPeriph, there's a macro for I2C1 : #define RCC_I2C1CLK_SYSCLK RCC_CFGR3_I2C1SW 2013-07-06T22:36:11 < emeb> but for I2C2 it's : #define RCC_I2C2CLK_SYSCLK ((uint32_t)0x10000020) 2013-07-06T22:36:42 < emeb> strange part is that the MSbit is 1 - but that bit is undefined in the register map. 2013-07-06T22:36:50 < zyp> looking at CFGR3 definition, it seems like lots of peripherals have that 2013-07-06T22:36:55 < emeb> and that bit is not set to 1 for I2C1 2013-07-06T22:37:38 < emeb> true 2013-07-06T22:37:44 < zyp> and it's not HSI vs SYSCLK, it's HSI vs PCLK 2013-07-06T22:38:07 < emeb> yes, even though SYSCLK is how the macro is named. 2013-07-06T22:38:34 < emeb> wait 2013-07-06T22:38:36 < emeb> no 2013-07-06T22:38:43 < emeb> I2C has two clocks going in. 2013-07-06T22:38:57 < emeb> PCLK is just used for the register interface to APB1 2013-07-06T22:39:12 < emeb> I2CCLK is a separate source used for the external timing. 2013-07-06T22:39:30 < zyp> yep 2013-07-06T22:39:46 < zyp> PCLK is ABP bus clock 2013-07-06T22:40:05 < zyp> which is derived from HCLK which is derived from SYSCLK 2013-07-06T22:40:32 < emeb> ya, but via dividers, so it's not strictly equal to SYSCLK 2013-07-06T22:40:48 < zyp> therefore «derived from» 2013-07-06T22:40:56 < emeb> :) 2013-07-06T22:41:48 < zyp> anyway, I bet the purpose is running communication independent of CPU clock, possibly inherited from L1 since F3 is newer, and L1 also have that kind of stuff IIRC 2013-07-06T22:42:08 < zyp> so you can clock down or stop the cpu while waiting for comms 2013-07-06T22:42:44 < emeb> makes sense. 2013-07-06T22:43:01 < emeb> esp if you run it from HSI 2013-07-06T22:43:48 < zyp> anyway, default is PCLK, so if you don't touch it, it'll keep the old behavior 2013-07-06T22:44:48 < emeb> huh? 2013-07-06T22:44:55 < emeb> default is HSI 2013-07-06T22:45:40 < zyp> oh, my bad 2013-07-06T22:45:50 < zyp> I looked at the wrong peripheral 2013-07-06T22:46:06 < zyp> default for all the others are PCLK 2013-07-06T22:46:08 < zyp> :p 2013-07-06T22:48:18 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T22:48:24 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-06T22:48:27 < R2COM> what you think of this toolset for stm32 dev. http://www.raisonance.com/Open4-RKitE-ARM__product__stm32.html 2013-07-06T22:49:11 < R2COM> <1$k 2013-07-06T22:49:13 < zyp> hard to tell without trying it 2013-07-06T22:50:00 < R2COM> also looks like that tool works only with their programmer hardware, rlink or whatever 2013-07-06T22:50:11 < R2COM> which is ok, but which means I cant try it right now 2013-07-06T22:50:36 < zyp> well, it claims to have a simulator 2013-07-06T22:51:13 < R2COM> its also built around gcc, but so is crossworks which costs 500$ more 2013-07-06T22:52:06 < zyp> what are you really looking for? 2013-07-06T22:52:55 -!- zetaz [~arno@195.116.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T22:53:03 < R2COM> well I was kinda curious about some relatively decent tool which can be used to program most popular uCs 2013-07-06T22:53:16 < R2COM> I am not looking for superb performance stuff like Keil 2013-07-06T22:53:35 < R2COM> because its not primary thing I do during whole day (microcontroller programming) 2013-07-06T22:53:56 < zyp> so, what's wrong with free tools? 2013-07-06T22:54:14 < R2COM> I am using them currently, but they are giving me shits from time to time 2013-07-06T22:54:25 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T22:54:31 < zyp> what kind? 2013-07-06T22:54:51 < R2COM> for example, I was having one primary project in Eclipse now, and I was programming discovery board 2013-07-06T22:55:00 < R2COM> and now, I decided just copy that project into another one 2013-07-06T22:55:04 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest94334 2013-07-06T22:55:06 < R2COM> I can compile it too 2013-07-06T22:55:07 -!- Guest94334 [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T22:55:13 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T22:55:19 < R2COM> but, when I start debugging it throws: warning: Remote failure reply: E31 2013-07-06T22:55:33 < R2COM> and I cannot step or run... 2013-07-06T22:55:34 < R2COM> or 2013-07-06T22:55:44 < R2COM> sometimes it throws: fffffffc: Unable to retrieve disassembly data from backend. 2013-07-06T22:55:47 < R2COM> in an infinite loop 2013-07-06T22:56:08 < R2COM> I remember I was doing several project, by copying from main template on another laptop PC, it was not the case... 2013-07-06T22:56:12 < R2COM> although same types of tools used 2013-07-06T22:56:18 < R2COM> Eclipse + gnuarm + atollic GDB server 2013-07-06T22:56:31 < R2COM> now I am here on Win7... I assembled same toolset 2013-07-06T22:56:37 < R2COM> and for some reason get this crap 2013-07-06T22:57:25 < R2COM> If I were to pay for one single suite, which instaslls being updated and supported, and not assembling freeshit its kind of more robust 2013-07-06T22:57:38 < zyp> you know what? I'm gonna drop this discussion before it becomes «eclipse is shit, use vim» :) 2013-07-06T22:58:00 < R2COM> I actually do use vim for code editing 2013-07-06T22:58:07 < R2COM> but just to edit files 2013-07-06T22:58:19 < zyp> of course, that's what an editor does 2013-07-06T22:58:20 < R2COM> I mean,..in Eclipse I just have it all kind of "tied" 2013-07-06T22:58:33 < R2COM> in Eclipse I do debugging 2013-07-06T22:58:42 < zyp> I do my debugging in gdb 2013-07-06T22:58:43 < R2COM> so what you say is eclipse not good at it or what? 2013-07-06T22:59:00 < R2COM> yeah well 2013-07-06T22:59:22 < R2COM> yeah I think i did it before 2013-07-06T22:59:28 < zyp> I'll refrain from saying much about eclipse other than that I don't use it, but I don't think highly of it 2013-07-06T22:59:59 < R2COM> one thing is (I assume, might be wrong), during debug in gdb one cannot step through code? 2013-07-06T23:00:48 < R2COM> I mean I can...but its like... I step, then I have to write in command to see if particular variable/address changed or not 2013-07-06T23:00:51 < R2COM> right? 2013-07-06T23:00:55 < zyp> as in looking at the code and having a marker moving through it as the execution progresses? 2013-07-06T23:01:00 < R2COM> its not like, I step, and then immediately see in a window values 2013-07-06T23:01:21 < R2COM> for example, in eclipse, I could step, and right away see my variables, many of them in right window 2013-07-06T23:01:46 < R2COM> with command line gdb debugging, I'll have to type stuff all the time for any particular address of interest 2013-07-06T23:02:07 < zyp> http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/gdb-5.1.1/html_node/gdb_56.html <- this might be what you're looking for 2013-07-06T23:02:44 < R2COM> haha 2013-07-06T23:02:45 < R2COM> well 2013-07-06T23:02:51 < zyp> no? 2013-07-06T23:02:51 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-06T23:02:53 < jpa-> you can always do "layout tui" if you fancy that :) 2013-07-06T23:03:33 < zyp> oh, I knew about gdb-tui, but not that you could change directly 2013-07-06T23:03:36 < zyp> that's neat 2013-07-06T23:03:46 < R2COM> hmm well 2013-07-06T23:04:04 < zyp> jpa-, can I get it to show the assembly too/instead? 2013-07-06T23:04:09 < jpa-> layout asm 2013-07-06T23:04:23 < zyp> awesome 2013-07-06T23:04:29 < jpa-> it would be interesting to know if that works ok with bmp.. it is very very slow with stlink 2013-07-06T23:04:45 < zyp> how slow 2013-07-06T23:04:48 < jpa-> because after every instruction, it reads a bunch of addresses from the processor 2013-07-06T23:04:56 < jpa-> like 1-2 seconds after every 'stepi' 2013-07-06T23:04:59 < zyp> I already have it running with bmp here now, what do you want me to test? 2013-07-06T23:05:06 < PaulFertser> zyp: i'm using plain gdb too and it feels quite comfortable 2013-07-06T23:05:12 < jpa-> stepi a few times and see how fast/slow it is 2013-07-06T23:06:18 < zyp> noticeable delay, but way less than a second 2013-07-06T23:06:49 < R2COM> also what would you finally recommend for debugging hardware tool 2013-07-06T23:06:54 < R2COM> bmp or jlink? 2013-07-06T23:07:09 < jpa-> zyp: might be usable then 2013-07-06T23:07:15 < jpa-> zyp: with stlink it is quite unusable 2013-07-06T23:07:20 < R2COM> I am currently using st-link/v2 from discovery board 2013-07-06T23:07:23 < PaulFertser> jlink of course, it supports tracing and swv and other fancy stuff. 2013-07-06T23:07:28 < jpa-> i guess one might add some caching for flash addresses 2013-07-06T23:07:38 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-06T23:07:40 < jpa-> (if that is what is taking the time) 2013-07-06T23:07:57 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-06T23:08:04 < PaulFertser> dongs never regretted the $$$ he paid for jlinks. 2013-07-06T23:08:07 < zyp> actually, this looks very usable 2013-07-06T23:08:40 < R2COM> well its what like 300$ 2013-07-06T23:09:03 < R2COM> not $$$... $ maybe 2013-07-06T23:09:10 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T23:09:42 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-06T23:09:57 < PaulFertser> There're different versions, all cost ~nothing hardware-wise but you pay for the jlink experience and features and unique firmware. So the $300 one is probably not the coolest. 2013-07-06T23:10:16 < jpa-> zyp: only sad thing is that arrow keys seem to move the hilight line and not browse command history in that mode 2013-07-06T23:10:23 < R2COM> http://www.segger.com/debug-probes.html 2013-07-06T23:10:27 < R2COM> here comparison in table 2013-07-06T23:10:30 < R2COM> and money for each 2013-07-06T23:10:36 < PaulFertser> But last time I asked here if anyone was using tracing or other advanced debugging features ever for anything nobody answered. 2013-07-06T23:10:41 < jpa-> uh, i mean scroll the asm box 2013-07-06T23:10:50 < R2COM> it looks to me that mostly its speed difference 2013-07-06T23:11:04 < R2COM> see that 300$ one has 1MB 2013-07-06T23:11:08 < R2COM> PRO one has 3MB 2013-07-06T23:11:56 < PaulFertser> dongs boasted he had a PRO one 2013-07-06T23:12:02 < zyp> jpa-, yep, I just learned that 2013-07-06T23:12:24 < zyp> jpa-, I'll see if I can make a vidcap of a session? 2013-07-06T23:12:30 < PaulFertser> zyp: what about C-p, does it not work for history too in that mode? 2013-07-06T23:12:50 < zyp> ah, it does 2013-07-06T23:13:06 < jpa-> zyp: well, i kind of believe that it is considerably faster :) 2013-07-06T23:13:15 < jpa-> PaulFertser: oh, nice :) 2013-07-06T23:14:01 < jpa-> also apparently 'fs next' allows to switch focus and then arrow keys work 2013-07-06T23:14:33 < zyp> yeah, that also worked 2013-07-06T23:15:13 < PaulFertser> R2COM: funny thing but i've actually seen that Reisonance (?) IDE because I had some "stm32 circle" demo devices which had an embedded rlink. Looked like an old uVision. 2013-07-06T23:15:36 < PaulFertser> (not that I tried it myself, just seen the students using it) 2013-07-06T23:18:03 < PaulFertser> And btw that old uVision (some of my coworker was using for debugging his ARM7 LPCsomething) felt quite limited comparing to gdb, when I was helping him to debug, he couldn't show me properly results of evaluations of arbitrary expressions (no way to cast types properly, etc), was quite shocking comparing to gdb. 2013-07-06T23:21:02 < PaulFertser> I also do not understand the idea of using different IDEs (and different editors) for different targets. Why should one be using Outlook to write email, uVision to code for ARM, some silabs IDE to code for their chips, Visual Studio to support old AVR projects and Word to write useless papers? How this de-unification can make any sense? 2013-07-06T23:21:53 < jpa-> because outlook is pretty bad for coding :) 2013-07-06T23:22:53 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/HsrVR/gdb_tui.mov 2013-07-06T23:23:38 < PaulFertser> jpa-: i think editing texts has enough similarities to justify using the same editor both for email and coding. 2013-07-06T23:24:08 < R2COM> PaulFertser: you are way off dude. one does uses Word to write papers. what else should he use, vim? 2013-07-06T23:24:11 < jpa-> zyp: nice :) 2013-07-06T23:24:28 < PaulFertser> Outlook is bad for email too, of course. At least for that kind of email that is needed for technical (or any other sane) discussions. 2013-07-06T23:26:18 < R2COM> hmmmm 2013-07-06T23:26:19 < zyp> jpa-, I like how the code window is jumping between lines 28 and 30 in the end 2013-07-06T23:26:23 < PaulFertser> R2COM: I just copy some previous useless paper, edit it a bit (in Emacs or vim, doesn't matter), process through latex, print. It would be strange if I preferred to not use all the familiar key combinations for text manipulation writing anything. 2013-07-06T23:26:37 < zyp> since the instructions corresponding to the lines are interleaved 2013-07-06T23:26:42 < jpa-> zyp: yeah, i wish gdb was better in representing interleaved code 2013-07-06T23:27:00 < zyp> better how? 2013-07-06T23:27:48 < jpa-> like when it jumps to line 30, it would somehow indicate that line 28 is not completely done yet 2013-07-06T23:28:03 < zyp> if you care about source level debugging, you're gonna like the new -Og in gcc 4.8 2013-07-06T23:28:13 < jpa-> especially when using the line-level stuff like step, sometimes it gets quite confusing 2013-07-06T23:28:26 < jpa-> hmm, i probably will like it :) 2013-07-06T23:28:26 < zyp> I tend to only use stepi 2013-07-06T23:30:59 < zyp> hmm, the disassembly in the asm window is wrong 2013-07-06T23:31:01 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-06T23:31:52 < zyp> it doesn't correspond to the output from objdump -d 2013-07-06T23:32:25 < jpa-> how different? 2013-07-06T23:32:39 < jpa-> and your elf is the same that is flashed to target, right? 2013-07-06T23:34:40 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/3hKm8 vs http://paste.jvnv.net/view/oHPuw 2013-07-06T23:34:41 < zyp> yes 2013-07-06T23:34:51 < zyp> and gdb is obviously wrong 2013-07-06T23:35:20 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T23:35:21 < zyp> look at 0x222, it's a while(1); 2013-07-06T23:36:05 < jpa-> hmm, everything is wrong, right? 2013-07-06T23:36:40 < zyp> I can't see anything being right 2013-07-06T23:36:44 < jpa-> yeah 2013-07-06T23:37:04 < jpa-> but it is in thumb mode anyway, so i wonder how it can get it wrong 2013-07-06T23:37:12 < zyp> that's what I also were thinking 2013-07-06T23:37:30 < jpa-> does display /i $pc have the same problem? 2013-07-06T23:37:50 < zyp> (gdb) x/i $pc 2013-07-06T23:37:50 < zyp> => 0x8000222 : adds r0, #254 ; 0xfe 2013-07-06T23:37:51 < zyp> yep 2013-07-06T23:38:50 < jpa-> display /i $pc has always worked for me so this is pretty weird 2013-07-06T23:39:15 < zyp> oh, wait, this bmp might be running the old bugged firmware 2013-07-06T23:39:55 < R2COM> I forgot, what was used to connect to gdb server, st-link utility of some sort? 2013-07-06T23:40:02 < R2COM> in case if one wants to do debugging via gdb 2013-07-06T23:40:05 < R2COM> in windows 2013-07-06T23:40:11 < jpa-> with what hardware? 2013-07-06T23:40:14 < zyp> depends what kind of hardware you have 2013-07-06T23:40:17 < R2COM> I remember I did it..even saved instructions... but damn cant find it 2013-07-06T23:40:20 < jpa-> openocd usually 2013-07-06T23:40:22 < R2COM> I have discovery board 2013-07-06T23:40:27 < zyp> st-util is for discovery 2013-07-06T23:40:32 < jpa-> yeah, openocd should work on windows 2013-07-06T23:40:35 < zyp> openocd can also be used 2013-07-06T23:40:41 < zyp> probably a better choice by now 2013-07-06T23:40:44 < PaulFertser> R2COM: i think i understand your reasoning, and i hope you too understand that some "hardcore" computer use styles are not due to "faggotry" but because we have different priorities, both in technical and ethical fields. 2013-07-06T23:40:51 < R2COM> no...I remember I managed to get console gdb debug running in windows! without openocd 2013-07-06T23:40:54 < jpa-> alternatively you can use the thingy that comes with atollic ide demo version.. but that sucks :) 2013-07-06T23:41:12 < jpa-> R2COM: sure, there are multiple alternatives 2013-07-06T23:41:14 < PaulFertser> There's also texane/stlink 2013-07-06T23:41:18 < jpa-> openocd seems to be the best nowadays 2013-07-06T23:41:28 < R2COM> PaulFertser: I'm not sure what you trying to prove to me really... 2013-07-06T23:42:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.181.149] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-06T23:42:57 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/JOEWg <- better 2013-07-06T23:43:04 < zyp> newer firmware did the trick 2013-07-06T23:43:21 < R2COM> newer firmware for what? 2013-07-06T23:43:22 < PaulFertser> R2COM: i'm trying to show you that free software enthusiasts do love good, nicely engineered and decently working software, and calling them "faggots" because some free software is not adequate for some tasks is, hm, inaccurate. 2013-07-06T23:43:27 < zyp> R2COM, my bmp 2013-07-06T23:50:07 < R2COM> ok heres a question: is there a way to do gdb debugging under windows using the following only: Discovery board (wither for its onboard chip, or external chip), Atollic GDB server ? 2013-07-06T23:50:35 < jpa-> you need gdb also 2013-07-06T23:50:37 < jpa-> but yes 2013-07-06T23:50:55 < R2COM> yes I think I have it, since I did debugging in eclipse before, it was connecting through gdb 2013-07-06T23:51:01 < jpa-> but atollic gdb server kind of sucks; it only works with some specific very old gdb versions 2013-07-06T23:51:08 < R2COM> well... 2013-07-06T23:51:22 < R2COM> right now to be honest, its that thing which gives me shits 2013-07-06T23:51:52 < R2COM> I guess once I get jlink, things will be easier 2013-07-06T23:51:54 < R2COM> or should be. 2013-07-06T23:52:04 < jpa-> why not just use openocd? 2013-07-06T23:52:21 < R2COM> I have a feeling that its a mess 2013-07-06T23:52:28 < jpa-> huh 2013-07-06T23:52:35 < zyp> R2COM, the nice part about bmp is that the gdbserver is running on the bmp itself, it shows up as an ACM device, and gdb can connect directly to serial ports 2013-07-06T23:52:58 < R2COM> zyp: but thats also case with jlink too I guess? 2013-07-06T23:53:02 < zyp> no 2013-07-06T23:53:03 < R2COM> according to their page 2013-07-06T23:53:05 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-06T23:53:21 < zyp> jlink have a standalone gdbserver application that you can run 2013-07-06T23:53:41 < R2COM> ah so it runs on my PC, not on programmer device ok 2013-07-06T23:53:46 < zyp> yes 2013-07-06T23:54:03 < R2COM> zyp: what about openocd is it better stuff or what? 2013-07-06T23:54:15 < zyp> I don't like it 2013-07-06T23:54:22 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-06T23:54:27 < zyp> but that's me 2013-07-06T23:54:36 < jpa-> it's been getting better 2013-07-06T23:54:37 < zyp> it has some important advantages for some users 2013-07-06T23:54:53 < zyp> thread support for certain rtoses, and so on 2013-07-06T23:54:56 < jpa-> chibios thread support is a definite plus for openocd 2013-07-06T23:56:24 < PaulFertser> Also, it supports many different microcontrollers and microprocessors and allows scripting for easy flashing, e.g. you can script SDRAM controller initialisation, upload bootloader in there, and flash firmware using bootloader's SPI and flash drivers. 2013-07-06T23:57:25 < R2COM> so, another possibility then is: BMP + gdb + gcc and all on Win7, should work right? 2013-07-06T23:57:29 < PaulFertser> It also supports having more than one device in a JTAG chain, and you can have a uniform production procedure that would also flash FPGAs on board via SVF files. 2013-07-06T23:58:03 < R2COM> by the way what I have is, GNUARM tools 2013-07-06T23:58:06 < zyp> R2COM, as long as you're comfortable working in the win7 command line 2013-07-06T23:58:07 < R2COM> it includes gcc,gdb --- Day changed Sun Jul 07 2013 2013-07-07T00:00:12 < PaulFertser> zyp: btw, it'd be interesting to know what you do not like about OpenOCD. Nowadays it feels quite handy, doesn't require editing cryptic config files for the most common tasks etc. 2013-07-07T00:03:33 < PaulFertser> R2COM: btw, ARM itself recommends https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded , not GNUARM. 2013-07-07T00:03:53 < R2COM> well actually 2013-07-07T00:04:03 < R2COM> seems that this is what I use, I'm downloading 4.7 now 2013-07-07T00:04:07 < R2COM> I had 4.6 2013-07-07T00:04:24 < R2COM> and its that package which includes gcc,gdb etc if I'm correct 2013-07-07T00:04:31 < PaulFertser> Yes 2013-07-07T00:04:35 < R2COM> all with prefix: arm-none-eabi- 2013-07-07T00:04:49 < PaulFertser> Sounds right 2013-07-07T00:05:15 < R2COM> is there any other gdb server which can be used with gdb, except Atollic's ? 2013-07-07T00:05:25 < PaulFertser> texane/stlink and OpenOCD. 2013-07-07T00:07:40 < PaulFertser> With openocd it's a matter of starting it like this: "openocd -f interface/stlink-v2.cfg -f target/stm32f3x_stlink.cfg" (if your target is an external stm32f3 board e.g.) 2013-07-07T00:08:03 < R2COM> I think I'll stick to gdb 2013-07-07T00:08:13 < PaulFertser> And then gdb can connect to it to port 3333. 2013-07-07T00:08:16 < R2COM> I just need to make choice whether use BMP or JLINK 2013-07-07T00:08:27 < jpa-> R2COM: you still use gdb with openocd 2013-07-07T00:08:36 < R2COM> ah ok 2013-07-07T00:08:39 < PaulFertser> OpenOCD is a gdb server. Which you can try right now with your stlink adapter you already have on your desk. 2013-07-07T00:08:57 < R2COM> yes I got it 2013-07-07T00:09:01 < R2COM> but what I cant figure out now is 2013-07-07T00:09:27 < R2COM> there was a way to connect to target through discovery board, using GDB in console in windows, and using atollic server, and without openocd 2013-07-07T00:09:33 < R2COM> i just cant find out how to do it 2013-07-07T00:09:37 < R2COM> I remember I did that for sure 2013-07-07T00:09:40 < R2COM> loing time ago 2013-07-07T00:09:56 < jpa-> just start the atollic server and connect to it? 2013-07-07T00:09:56 < R2COM> and even wrote down how i did it...but then scrapped it all, and went to eclipse debug 2013-07-07T00:10:01 < R2COM> now im curious how i got it working 2013-07-07T00:10:03 < PaulFertser> R2COM: arm-none-eabi-gdb, then enter "target remote localhost:" and you're connected. 2013-07-07T00:10:21 < R2COM> ah 2013-07-07T00:10:24 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-07T00:10:40 < R2COM> and port was I guess 61234 should be same...as its in config file 2013-07-07T00:12:13 < PaulFertser> Then for nice debugging you need to use "file yourapp.elf", and that should be it, "l" shows current snippet of source code, "n" steps line, "s" is "step into", "fin" to run till the end of the current function, "b" to place a breakpoint, "tb" to place a temporary breakpoint. 2013-07-07T00:14:29 < PaulFertser> You can also "load" to reflash the target with the current elf. 2013-07-07T00:16:19 < PaulFertser> I'm afraid the result won't be different with what you get via Eclipse. It's probably the Attolic tool that's misbehaving here, and since you do not get any diagnostics from it, understanding the problem is too hard. 2013-07-07T00:24:17 < zyp> PaulFertser, I haven't attempted using openocd since 2011, so my opinion may be a bit dated :) 2013-07-07T00:26:56 < R2COM> right 2013-07-07T00:27:32 < R2COM> well or no 2013-07-07T00:27:42 < R2COM> as I said, I have ONE project in eclipse that behaves nicely 2013-07-07T00:27:51 < R2COM> debugs...runs...steps etc in its Eclipse environment 2013-07-07T00:27:54 < R2COM> so that one works 2013-07-07T00:28:10 < R2COM> I had only that ONE main project in which i was poking its peripherals, connecting stuff to my board etc.. 2013-07-07T00:28:20 < R2COM> problem starts once I copy that project to another one 2013-07-07T00:28:40 < R2COM> so yes its server who gives errors...but its kinda related to eclipse too I assume 2013-07-07T00:29:48 < R2COM> reiterating, right now I have project which works/debugs perfectly in eclipse, after I make ideal copy of it, and try to debug that one..thats where I get error messages from atollic server.. 2013-07-07T00:29:59 < R2COM> so.. yeah its server, but its eclipse issue mostly 2013-07-07T00:32:45 < PaulFertser> It depends on how you actually build the firmware too. If it was a hand-edited Makefile (eclipse supports that), then Eclipse wouldn't be able to affect it anyhow. But if it's some eclipse project, who knows, probably it links some wrong object (from the original directory) to it or something like that. I know Eclipse likes hardcoding pathes in its files... 2013-07-07T00:33:59 < R2COM> so if one uses just bare vim to edit files, compile from console using gcc, and debug from console using gdb..those problems can be avoided? 2013-07-07T00:35:12 < PaulFertser> At least I haven't seen anything as strange as you describe, yes. I also use make to call gcc to compile and link the whole project. 2013-07-07T00:35:42 < R2COM> so what are those commands, to build the .hex/elf out of all my sourcefiles? 2013-07-07T00:35:59 < R2COM> I guess i can lookup in how eclipse did it 2013-07-07T00:37:23 < PaulFertser> You can try to ask Eclipse to create a makefile and then hand-edit it as you see fit. 2013-07-07T00:37:39 < R2COM> I have makefile actually 2013-07-07T00:37:50 < PaulFertser> I really have to sleep now, so good night, everybody. 2013-07-07T00:37:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-07T00:40:18 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T00:40:36 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T01:00:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.181.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T01:01:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.128.115] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T01:30:02 -!- Lionhearted [~Ranewen@78-1-152-150.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Going to sleep] 2013-07-07T01:32:35 -!- zetaz [~arno@195.116.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-07T01:37:49 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-07T01:39:25 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T01:39:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.128.115] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T01:43:52 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T02:06:55 < Laurence2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNDXc7a8p4 2013-07-07T02:06:59 < Laurence2> rofl 2013-07-07T02:12:44 < inca> has any heard of http://state-machine.com/ ? 2013-07-07T02:15:07 < gxti> typos, pictures of kids, logo spam. what's not to hate? 2013-07-07T02:15:50 < gxti> "automatic coding of UML statecharts", ah i gets worse 2013-07-07T02:17:05 -!- BjoernC_ [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T02:17:42 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T02:19:50 < zippe> inca: QP is pretty good 2013-07-07T02:20:19 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-07T02:20:49 < Laurence2> Without using QP, I don't believe we could have delivered on our given schedule dates with the same level of quality." 2013-07-07T02:20:51 < zippe> The worst problem you'll encounter tends to be "why do we need a framework, we can just hack something together" 2013-07-07T02:21:41 < zippe> And of course the management-oriented website 2013-07-07T02:21:49 < zippe> But mostly, ignore that crap; read his book if you're curious 2013-07-07T02:23:42 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T02:24:59 < zippe> Mostly I don't use it because it's GPL, rather than LGPL 2013-07-07T02:25:33 < zippe> But if that's not a problem to you, its an approach worth tryin 2013-07-07T02:29:49 < zippe> Otherwise, consider SMC: http://smc.sourceforge.net 2013-07-07T02:30:45 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T02:33:38 < R2COM> I updated the firmware on st-link 2013-07-07T02:33:47 < R2COM> now I start the atollic gdb server 2013-07-07T02:33:52 < R2COM> and during connect it says: Connecting to the ST-Link Debugger... OK 2013-07-07T02:33:53 < R2COM> Waiting for debugger connection... 2013-07-07T02:33:59 < R2COM> and it goes like that.. 2013-07-07T02:35:45 < R2COM> shit I have no idea why its like that 2013-07-07T02:36:45 < R2COM> and once I start debug connection it closes 2013-07-07T02:36:46 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-07T02:36:47 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T02:37:57 < R2COM> so it looks like its connected in a right way, but now cant start debugging 2013-07-07T02:38:12 < R2COM> basically I just updated the atollic server now, and updated firmware on discovery board 2013-07-07T02:40:05 < R2COM> Error in final launch sequence 2013-07-07T02:40:05 < R2COM> Failed to execute MI command: 2013-07-07T02:40:05 < R2COM> -target-select remote localhost:61234 2013-07-07T02:40:05 < R2COM> Error message from debugger back end: 2013-07-07T02:40:05 < R2COM> Remote connection closed 2013-07-07T02:40:05 < R2COM> Remote connection closed 2013-07-07T02:40:17 < R2COM> I even turned off firewall and antivirus, thinking maybe after update thats what was causinig it... 2013-07-07T02:40:23 < R2COM> but same shit 2013-07-07T02:44:52 < R2COM> Connecting to the ST-Link Debugger... OK 2013-07-07T02:44:52 < R2COM> Waiting for debugger connection...Error while waiting for debugger connection, error 37. 2013-07-07T02:44:52 < R2COM> Shutting down... 2013-07-07T02:44:52 < R2COM> Debugger connection lost. 2013-07-07T02:44:52 < R2COM> Shutting down... 2013-07-07T02:44:52 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T02:44:52 -!- BjoernC_ [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-07T02:46:49 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T02:52:28 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T02:52:35 < R2COM> wow now its totallys sucks 2013-07-07T02:52:44 < R2COM> I tried running that server manually 2013-07-07T02:52:49 < R2COM> it starts and waits for connection 2013-07-07T02:53:05 < R2COM> as soon as I do: target remote localhost:61234 , it says error 37 and quits 2013-07-07T02:53:10 < R2COM> closes the connection 2013-07-07T02:53:14 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-07T02:55:33 < R2COM> (gdb) target remote localhost:61234 2013-07-07T02:55:33 < R2COM> Remote debugging using localhost:61234 2013-07-07T02:55:33 < R2COM> Remote connection closed 2013-07-07T02:55:33 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T02:55:48 < R2COM> Connecting to the ST-Link Debugger... OK 2013-07-07T02:55:48 < R2COM> Waiting for debugger connection...Error while waiting for debugger connection, e 2013-07-07T02:55:48 < R2COM> rror 37. 2013-07-07T02:55:48 < R2COM> Shutting down... 2013-07-07T02:55:48 < R2COM> Debugger connection lost. 2013-07-07T02:55:49 < R2COM> Shutting down... 2013-07-07T02:56:14 < R2COM> any idea whats wrong with that shit? 2013-07-07T03:05:56 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T03:06:02 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T03:07:44 < R2COM> wow maybe I shouldnt have made those updates 2013-07-07T03:08:09 < R2COM> anyhow, thats what it all looks like when assembling tools from freeshit 2013-07-07T03:09:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T03:09:45 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T03:11:43 < zyp> that mindset isn't going to help you 2013-07-07T03:12:56 < R2COM> i'd be glad to hear more practical suggestion 2013-07-07T03:13:14 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@133.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T03:14:04 < zyp> well, given the messages, gdb is apparently not able to connect to the gdbserver 2013-07-07T03:14:35 < zyp> or rather, the gdbserver is closing the connection immediately after establishing it 2013-07-07T03:15:07 < zyp> let's get the dumb question out of the way first: are you certain the gdbserver is listening on port 61234? 2013-07-07T03:15:24 < R2COM> thats what its configured to do, so yes 2013-07-07T03:15:44 < zyp> secondly: are you certain that that port is the port gdb is intended to connect to? does it listen on any other ports? 2013-07-07T03:16:18 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/YH8Dcmpu 2013-07-07T03:16:20 < R2COM> its config 2013-07-07T03:16:32 < R2COM> thats how it always worked with these default settings 2013-07-07T03:16:57 < zyp> ok, then it sounds like it refuses something protocol-wise 2013-07-07T03:17:01 < R2COM> I was just simply running its bat file: @echo off 2013-07-07T03:17:01 < R2COM> cmd /K "ST-LINK_gdbserver.exe -c config.txt || echo GDB server exited" 2013-07-07T03:17:12 < R2COM> and now 2013-07-07T03:17:13 < zyp> try «set debug remote 1» in gdb, then try the target-command again 2013-07-07T03:17:27 < zyp> then pastebin the result 2013-07-07T03:17:30 < R2COM> problem is different now, it just says initialization error... 2013-07-07T03:17:35 < R2COM> so it doesnt even start normally 2013-07-07T03:17:46 < zyp> what doesn't start? the gdbserver or gdb? 2013-07-07T03:17:49 < R2COM> Error in Initializing ST-Link device 2013-07-07T03:17:49 < R2COM> GDB server exited 2013-07-07T03:17:56 < R2COM> gdb server doesnt start 2013-07-07T03:18:00 < R2COM> gdb starts ok... 2013-07-07T03:18:10 < zyp> well, ok 2013-07-07T03:18:15 < R2COM> I already reverted firmware back to what I had 2013-07-07T03:18:33 < R2COM> haha.. and now this is new problem, it simply not doesnt connect to st-link 2013-07-07T03:18:53 < gxti> if you don't like "freeshit" then why are you using it? 2013-07-07T03:18:57 < zyp> is that gdbserver even free software? don't you think it's a bit unfair to blame free software when it's not responsible for the problem? :) 2013-07-07T03:18:57 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/TS9jdFQD 2013-07-07T03:19:00 < gxti> presumably work pays for better tools 2013-07-07T03:19:09 < gxti> zyp: i think atollic's is some bastard product from stlink code 2013-07-07T03:19:18 < gxti> i tried to use it once when i was struggling with openocd 2013-07-07T03:19:23 < gxti> never got it working with external gdb 2013-07-07T03:19:35 < R2COM> what you never got working? 2013-07-07T03:19:37 < R2COM> atollic? 2013-07-07T03:19:57 < zyp> I believe texane works on windows, I think a friend of mine were using that 2013-07-07T03:20:06 < gxti> atollic itself worked, using atollic gdbserver with linux gdb did not. but it turned out a lot of my problems were the gdb client even with openocd, so maybe not relevant. 2013-07-07T03:20:09 < R2COM> zyp: yes..that one is kinda not free... but it is actually free! it comes with LITE edition after install ;) 2013-07-07T03:20:30 < R2COM> gxti: then what do you use 2013-07-07T03:21:17 < gxti> i use bmp because i'm not a pro and i'm not doing enough to justify using paid tools 2013-07-07T03:21:44 < R2COM> so with bmp then... 2013-07-07T03:21:45 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-07T03:22:00 < R2COM> then theres chance maybe this problem will get away 2013-07-07T03:22:18 < gxti> you can flash bmp onto stlink hardware but it's hard to go back 2013-07-07T03:22:28 < R2COM> I'll be simply compiling my sources using makefiles, then using arm-none-eabi-gdb to connect to BMP and debug in command line, all in win then 2013-07-07T03:23:22 -!- Laurence2 [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-07T03:23:25 < zyp> http://www.emb4fun.de/archive/stlink/index.html <- here's windows builds of texane/stlink 2013-07-07T03:23:38 < R2COM> how long does it take to retreive bmp via fast delivery? 2013-07-07T03:23:43 < zyp> I believe said friend of mine were using those with success 2013-07-07T03:25:22 < R2COM> port 4242 hm 2013-07-07T03:25:37 < zyp> that's the default for texane 2013-07-07T03:27:50 < R2COM> doing it now already 2013-07-07T03:28:12 < R2COM> KARL - should read back as 0x03, not 60 02 00 00 2013-07-07T03:28:12 < R2COM> Listening at *:4242... 2013-07-07T03:28:12 < R2COM> GDB connected. 2013-07-07T03:28:22 < R2COM> (gdb) target remote localhost:4242 2013-07-07T03:28:22 < R2COM> Remote debugging using localhost:4242 2013-07-07T03:28:22 < R2COM> 0xfffffffe in ?? () 2013-07-07T03:28:22 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T03:28:31 < R2COM> looks like ready to debug then 2013-07-07T03:28:34 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T03:28:51 < R2COM> now its time to go ahead and put all those gdb important commands in my head 2013-07-07T03:29:02 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-07T03:29:05 < zyp> also, 0xfffffffe means lockup 2013-07-07T03:29:19 < R2COM> lockup? 2013-07-07T03:29:23 < zyp> which means the software failed so hard it couldn't even execute the hardfault handler 2013-07-07T03:29:34 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T03:29:43 < gxti> doesn't blank parts do that? 2013-07-07T03:29:52 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T03:29:59 < R2COM> I actualle did full chip erase before 2013-07-07T03:30:00 < gxti> so why was that the first thing you said :p 2013-07-07T03:30:27 < zyp> in case he wondered ;) 2013-07-07T03:30:41 < R2COM> its good I am glad he said it anyhow 2013-07-07T03:30:46 < zyp> usually it's a result of stack pointer not pointing to memory 2013-07-07T03:31:13 < R2COM> so very main things will be: stepi, putting breaks, full run, continue, and also I guess looking up variables and registers 2013-07-07T03:31:41 < R2COM> I guess it all should be in their manuals 2013-07-07T03:31:58 < R2COM> https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded 2013-07-07T03:32:00 < zyp> the latter is print 2013-07-07T03:32:01 < R2COM> that one I am using 2013-07-07T03:32:08 < zyp> or simply «p» 2013-07-07T03:32:16 < zyp> p/x if you want it in hex 2013-07-07T03:32:46 < zyp> «set print pretty on» will make structures and classes nicer to read when you print them, so you might want that in your .gdbinit 2013-07-07T03:33:08 < R2COM> .gdbinit is what? 2013-07-07T03:33:21 < zyp> commands read and executed at gdb startup 2013-07-07T03:33:28 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T03:34:03 < R2COM> in this case 2013-07-07T03:34:15 < R2COM> it looks like I can download flash using that GUI st-link utility from ST 2013-07-07T03:34:22 < R2COM> and then connect as I did now, and start debug, right? 2013-07-07T03:34:27 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/.gdbinit <- which means you can do stuff like this, which will add a few convenient commands, then load a file and connect 2013-07-07T03:34:53 < zyp> I recommend just using extended-remote, then you can flash directly in gdb with the «load» command 2013-07-07T03:35:30 < zyp> then just «run» to restart 2013-07-07T03:35:30 < R2COM> target extended-remote localhost:4242 ? 2013-07-07T03:35:36 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T03:36:07 < R2COM> only thing is, I'm not sure how to make gdb load specifically a needed hex file, load filename.hex ? 2013-07-07T03:36:50 < zyp> ignore the hex, load the elf directly, gdb knows what to do with it 2013-07-07T03:38:35 < R2COM> did that now 2013-07-07T03:38:38 < R2COM> with extended mode 2013-07-07T03:38:40 < R2COM> (gdb) load test3.elf 2013-07-07T03:38:40 < R2COM> Loading section .text, size 0x1674 lma 0x8000000 2013-07-07T03:38:40 < R2COM> Start address 0x8000189, load size 5748 2013-07-07T03:38:40 < R2COM> Transfer rate: 4 KB/sec, 5748 bytes/write. 2013-07-07T03:38:40 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T03:38:56 < zyp> hmm, only text? 2013-07-07T03:39:11 < R2COM> well 2013-07-07T03:39:14 < dongs> R2COM still cant debug? 2013-07-07T03:39:29 < R2COM> dongs: experimenting now with texane for windows server 2013-07-07T03:39:34 < dongs> heh 2013-07-07T03:39:52 < R2COM> zyp: not sure why it says only .text actually 2013-07-07T03:40:00 < zyp> well, it might be correct 2013-07-07T03:40:16 < zyp> either if you merged everything into .text, or other segments are just empty 2013-07-07T03:41:15 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/KMT8hwjn 2013-07-07T03:41:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T03:41:42 < zyp> sure, everything looks good 2013-07-07T03:41:58 < R2COM> I am not sure yet, because when I compile it, heres what I get: 2013-07-07T03:42:00 < R2COM> text data bss dec hex filename 2013-07-07T03:42:00 < R2COM> 5724 0 2560 8284 205c out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T03:42:10 < R2COM> as you see, its not just text 2013-07-07T03:42:13 < zyp> ah, yeah, .data is empty 2013-07-07T03:42:21 < zyp> then it makes sense 2013-07-07T03:42:31 < R2COM> how about .bss? 2013-07-07T03:42:35 < R2COM> its not empty 2013-07-07T03:42:43 < zyp> .bss is zero-initialized ram, so it's not stored in flash 2013-07-07T03:42:48 < R2COM> ah 2013-07-07T03:42:57 < R2COM> okay well...fine then 2013-07-07T03:43:34 < R2COM> 4KB well... maybe kinda ok... not super great but okay 2013-07-07T03:43:37 < zyp> objdump -h will produce a better table of sections in the elf file 2013-07-07T03:43:52 < R2COM> that one I must add in Makefile 2013-07-07T03:43:53 < R2COM> ? 2013-07-07T03:44:04 < zyp> no, just run it like you ran size 2013-07-07T03:44:07 < zyp> oh 2013-07-07T03:44:19 < zyp> well, just run it in the command line 2013-07-07T03:44:33 < zyp> arm-none-eabi-objdump out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T03:44:41 < zyp> arm-none-eabi-objdump -h out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T03:45:18 < dongs> R2COM: pretty sure 32k demo keil supports stlink 2013-07-07T03:45:24 < dongs> you could easily solve all your problems by using a real IDE :) 2013-07-07T03:45:33 < dongs> isntead of fucking around wiht opensauce. 2013-07-07T03:45:46 < gxti> ^ 2013-07-07T03:45:47 < zyp> sounds nice until you hit 32k 2013-07-07T03:46:00 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/G0G9YiZT 2013-07-07T03:46:06 < dongs> zyp, hjes not using stdperiphlib. 2013-07-07T03:46:10 < dongs> so it'll be a while before he hits 32 :) 2013-07-07T03:46:27 < zyp> good point ;) 2013-07-07T03:47:11 < R2COM> I'm using couple USARTS/two SPI's, I2C, and more stuff with higher level to talk with 3 type of i2c sensors, spi flash mem, and main control program actually is not sophisticated, just turning on/off stuff, and watching interrupts on EXTI 2013-07-07T03:47:28 < dongs> sounds like 32k will be plenty 2013-07-07T03:47:40 < dongs> plus hte fact that 32k of keil is like 48k of gcc 2013-07-07T03:48:09 < R2COM> by the way, is it allowed to use in payed stuff? 2013-07-07T03:48:12 < R2COM> keil allows? 2013-07-07T03:48:16 < zyp> on the other hand, 48k is nothing when you consider that F4 has 1M of flash 2013-07-07T03:48:23 < R2COM> right 2013-07-07T03:48:25 < dongs> demo? good quesiton. i havent looked at that. 2013-07-07T03:48:34 < dongs> zyp: you could just use 1m for local storage. 2013-07-07T03:48:40 < dongs> only restriction is 32k link. 2013-07-07T03:49:02 < R2COM> so... 2013-07-07T03:49:03 < zyp> sure 2013-07-07T03:49:12 < R2COM> I am going to play more with it then 2013-07-07T03:49:13 < dongs> duno go read their demo license 2013-07-07T03:49:15 < R2COM> this gdb debugging 2013-07-07T03:49:21 < zyp> either way, not my choice :) 2013-07-07T03:49:36 < R2COM> and later... you say BMP then? (is there any reason to get JLINK but not bmp?) 2013-07-07T03:50:03 < zyp> depends 2013-07-07T03:50:26 < R2COM> I wont need those pizza features of jlink with trace memory etc...or whatever it wa 2013-07-07T03:50:31 < zyp> if you're going to stick with gdb, pick bmp 2013-07-07T03:50:48 < zyp> otherwise get jlink for the support in commercial toolchains 2013-07-07T03:51:39 < R2COM> dongs: by the way http://www.raisonance.com/Open4-RKitE-ARM__product__stm32.html not sure if you saw it 2013-07-07T03:51:55 < R2COM> so that one seems as cheapest commercial tool which supports stuff 2013-07-07T03:52:08 < R2COM> its something like crossworks, (i.e. around gcc) but cheaper by 500$ 2013-07-07T03:52:13 < R2COM> its like 1000$ 2013-07-07T03:52:42 < R2COM> and it works only with its own tool called RLINK 2013-07-07T03:52:44 < dongs> ya never tried that 2013-07-07T03:52:48 < dongs> is it also a eclipse wrapper? 2013-07-07T03:52:54 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T03:52:55 < R2COM> no 2013-07-07T03:52:57 < R2COM> its called RIDE 2013-07-07T03:52:59 < R2COM> its IDE 2013-07-07T03:53:17 < dongs> annoying 2013-07-07T03:53:28 < R2COM> why 2013-07-07T03:53:38 < dongs> not supporting at least common shit like cmsis-dap or jlink and only pushing ther own shitty ftdi debugger is aids 2013-07-07T03:55:17 < R2COM> hm ok 2013-07-07T03:56:27 < R2COM> whats the difference in step and stepi? 2013-07-07T03:56:30 < R2COM> in gdb? 2013-07-07T03:57:05 < zyp> s steps source lines, si steps instructions 2013-07-07T03:57:07 < dongs> instruction step 2013-07-07T03:57:10 < dongs> vs 2013-07-07T03:57:11 < dongs> yea that 2013-07-07T03:57:22 < zyp> (and those are valid abbrevations) 2013-07-07T03:57:53 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T03:57:58 < R2COM> i cant find manual of those main commands 2013-07-07T03:58:00 < R2COM> on that website 2013-07-07T03:58:04 < R2COM> https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded 2013-07-07T03:58:16 < zyp> it's just a package 2013-07-07T03:58:16 < dongs> it wouldnt be there 2013-07-07T03:58:19 < R2COM> or their gdb is just general purpose gdb and I should look there? 2013-07-07T03:58:22 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-07T03:58:23 < zyp> try http://sourceware.org/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb/ 2013-07-07T03:59:51 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-07T03:59:53 < R2COM> looks nice 2013-07-07T04:00:16 < R2COM> ok then how thick is your stencil? 2013-07-07T04:00:19 < R2COM> err sorry 2013-07-07T04:00:34 < dongs> lolwat 2013-07-07T04:00:41 < dongs> mine is 0.13T tho. 2013-07-07T04:07:18 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T04:08:57 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-highlights/us/en/analog-devices-solutions-for-xilinx-fpgas/3178 2013-07-07T04:09:56 < R2COM> what about that 2013-07-07T04:10:08 < R2COM> I will be using one ADI board with xilinx soon 2013-07-07T04:10:09 < R2COM> DAC one 2013-07-07T04:10:13 < R2COM> and another one with ADC 2013-07-07T04:10:19 < R2COM> I made already high speed adapter for it 2013-07-07T04:10:34 < R2COM> (because there was no interconnection solution for boards I want to use) 2013-07-07T04:10:38 < zyp> hmm, seems less expensive than I would expect 2013-07-07T04:11:06 < zyp> unless the boards do less than I think 2013-07-07T04:11:59 < R2COM> board I have is... I think 2.5GSPS DAC 2013-07-07T04:12:03 < R2COM> for...I guess it was 250$ 2013-07-07T04:12:07 < dongs> zyp: i kno rite? 125mhz channel bandwidht?! 2013-07-07T04:12:21 < zyp> nice 2013-07-07T04:12:35 < R2COM> and I used one board with ADC 125MHz, 600MHz full power bw 2013-07-07T04:12:41 < R2COM> it costed like... 350$ 2013-07-07T04:12:51 < R2COM> 4 channels by the way in chip 2013-07-07T04:12:59 < R2COM> not used...will use soon.. 2013-07-07T04:14:00 < dongs> zyp: lol, ADI has a ghettohub account. 2013-07-07T04:14:03 < dongs> http://wiki.analog.com/resources/fpga/xilinx/fmc/ad-fmcomms1-ebz 2013-07-07T04:16:01 < zyp> not really surprising, that's a decent way to publish reference code 2013-07-07T04:17:12 < dongs> i wonder why is that shit so cheap hm 2013-07-07T04:17:17 < dongs> i mean isnt that cheaper than bladerf 2013-07-07T04:17:32 < zyp> imagine how much more sane it would be to maintain your projects if you got stdlib and other shit like that in a proper version controlled repository 2013-07-07T04:17:36 < dongs> i guess t he catch is there's no highspeed PC interface 2013-07-07T04:17:46 < dongs> you just got lunex on the zinq 2013-07-07T04:17:53 < dongs> (which isnt outright terrible, i suppose) 2013-07-07T04:18:25 < dongs> has niggabit ethernet 2013-07-07T04:19:34 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T04:19:51 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-07T04:19:55 < R2COM> Im trying to find 2013-07-07T04:19:58 < R2COM> is there a PAUSE comamnd? 2013-07-07T04:20:00 < R2COM> in gdb 2013-07-07T04:20:27 < dongs> break? or someshit 2013-07-07T04:23:48 < R2COM> also how can I specify file for a break, I do it this way: 2013-07-07T04:23:49 < R2COM> (gdb) break main.c:99 2013-07-07T04:23:49 < R2COM> No symbol table is loaded. Use the "file" command. 2013-07-07T04:23:49 < R2COM> Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) n 2013-07-07T04:23:56 < R2COM> seems its not accepting it 2013-07-07T04:26:24 < R2COM> I'm not quite sure what exactly it means by: No symbol table is loaded. Use the "file" command. ? 2013-07-07T04:28:17 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T04:28:34 < dongs> did you build your trash with -g 2013-07-07T04:28:35 < dongs> or wahtever 2013-07-07T04:28:44 < R2COM> thats what Im checking for now... 2013-07-07T04:28:46 < dongs> so it has some symbols in the elf 2013-07-07T04:29:07 < R2COM> by the way 2013-07-07T04:29:08 < dongs> open dem sores 2013-07-07T04:29:48 < emeb> got F303 I2C working - stupid copypasta error in the gpio setup. 2013-07-07T04:32:17 < R2COM> I actually did it with -g 2013-07-07T04:32:20 < R2COM> here is my makefile 2013-07-07T04:32:57 < R2COM> with -g flags 2013-07-07T04:34:59 < zyp> R2COM, you need to load the elf in gdb with «file foo.elf» 2013-07-07T04:35:16 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-07T04:35:36 < zyp> though, if you passed the name of the elf on the command line, you already have that 2013-07-07T04:35:47 < dongs> «gay quotes» 2013-07-07T04:35:56 < zyp> best quotes 2013-07-07T04:36:37 < R2COM> (gdb) file out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:36:37 < R2COM> A program is being debugged already. 2013-07-07T04:36:37 < R2COM> Are you sure you want to change the file? (y or n) y 2013-07-07T04:36:37 < R2COM> Reading symbols from D:\projects\arm\test3/out/test3.elf...done. 2013-07-07T04:36:37 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:37:01 < zyp> can you now set the breakpoint? 2013-07-07T04:37:03 < R2COM> seems it worked 2013-07-07T04:37:05 < R2COM> (gdb) break main.c:99 2013-07-07T04:37:05 < R2COM> Breakpoint 1 at 0x8000c42: file main.c, line 99. 2013-07-07T04:37:05 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:37:19 < zyp> ok, that was it 2013-07-07T04:37:28 < R2COM> thank you 2013-07-07T04:39:47 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T04:39:48 < R2COM> but now 2013-07-07T04:40:09 < R2COM> i want it to run, and hit that breakpoint 2013-07-07T04:40:12 < R2COM> it doesnt happen 2013-07-07T04:40:24 < zyp> did you try «run»? 2013-07-07T04:40:27 < R2COM> Breakpoint 1 at 0x8000c42: file main.c, line 99. 2013-07-07T04:40:27 < R2COM> (gdb) run 2013-07-07T04:40:27 < R2COM> The program being debugged has been started already. 2013-07-07T04:40:27 < R2COM> Start it from the beginning? (y or n) y 2013-07-07T04:40:27 < R2COM> Starting program: D:\projects\arm\test3/out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:40:28 < R2COM> Note: automatically using hardware breakpoints for read-only addresses. 2013-07-07T04:40:34 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-07T04:40:38 < R2COM> and thats it 2013-07-07T04:40:51 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T04:41:04 < R2COM> cannot enter any command at this stage 2013-07-07T04:41:09 < zyp> ctrl-c to stop it, do a «bt» and «info registers» and pastebin the output 2013-07-07T04:41:12 < R2COM> cursor is flashing 2013-07-07T04:41:27 < zyp> that's normal 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> Starting program: D:\projects\arm\test3/out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> Note: automatically using hardware breakpoints for read-only addresses. 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> 0xfffffffe in ?? () 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> (gdb) stopfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf 2013-07-07T04:41:48 < R2COM> Undefined command: "stopfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf". Try "help". 2013-07-07T04:41:49 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:41:49 < R2COM> Undefined command: "stopfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf". Try "help". 2013-07-07T04:41:49 < zyp> gdb is unresponsive while target is running, you do ctrl-c to force a break 2013-07-07T04:41:50 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:41:50 < R2COM> Undefined command: "stopfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf". Try "help". 2013-07-07T04:41:51 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:41:52 < R2COM> sorry 2013-07-07T04:41:53 < R2COM> arr 2013-07-07T04:42:17 < R2COM> here is bt: 2013-07-07T04:42:18 < R2COM> (gdb) bt 2013-07-07T04:42:18 < R2COM> #0 0xfffffffe in ?? () 2013-07-07T04:42:18 < R2COM> #1 2013-07-07T04:42:18 < R2COM> #2 0x00000000 in ?? () 2013-07-07T04:42:18 < R2COM> #3 0x00000000 in ?? () 2013-07-07T04:42:19 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:42:25 < zyp> well, that's enough 2013-07-07T04:42:34 < R2COM> lockup right 2013-07-07T04:42:37 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T04:42:47 < R2COM> but it must not be 2013-07-07T04:42:53 < R2COM> since I loaded legit program 2013-07-07T04:42:58 < R2COM> with file test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:42:59 < zyp> try this: «x/wx 0x8000000» 2013-07-07T04:43:20 < dongs> i tried using gdb to debug on sam7 once 2013-07-07T04:43:21 < R2COM> (gdb) x/wx 0x8000000 2013-07-07T04:43:22 < R2COM> 0x8000000 : 0x20000600 2013-07-07T04:43:22 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:43:22 < dongs> never fucking again 2013-07-07T04:43:27 < dongs> ocmplete waste of tim 2013-07-07T04:43:32 < dongs> R2COM: well at least your flash is loaded ok. 2013-07-07T04:43:35 < zyp> p/x $sp 2013-07-07T04:43:49 < R2COM> (gdb) p/x $sp 2013-07-07T04:43:50 < R2COM> $1 = 0xffffffd8 2013-07-07T04:43:50 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:44:00 < dongs> more like 0xfffffffuuuuuu 2013-07-07T04:44:01 < zyp> ok, something messed up your stack pointer 2013-07-07T04:44:32 < R2COM> when one does "file test3.elf" , there is no need to do "load test3.elf" right? 2013-07-07T04:44:48 < R2COM> so what I did is, i connected remotely with extended mode 2013-07-07T04:44:55 < R2COM> and did: file test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:45:52 < zyp> you still have to do load to flash it 2013-07-07T04:45:58 < zyp> you can use load without name 2013-07-07T04:46:09 < R2COM> ahhh 2013-07-07T04:46:11 < R2COM> see I didnt do that 2013-07-07T04:46:13 < R2COM> i did: 2013-07-07T04:46:16 < R2COM> file test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:46:18 < R2COM> and thats it 2013-07-07T04:46:30 < R2COM> starting over. 2013-07-07T04:46:38 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/.gdbinit <- in my .gdbinit I have defined a flash-alias that does both when I just type «flash» 2013-07-07T04:46:52 < zyp> and it also takes care of loading the file the first time gdb is started 2013-07-07T04:47:02 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2013-07-07T04:47:47 < R2COM> ah.. 2013-07-07T04:47:48 < R2COM> defines 2013-07-07T04:48:05 < R2COM> what is that attach_swd business for? 2013-07-07T04:48:09 < zyp> bmp 2013-07-07T04:48:35 < zyp> it doesn't auto-attach at startup, so it's used for selecting jtag or swd mode, and so on 2013-07-07T04:49:10 < zyp> so you have to do a scan, and then select which of the discovered targets to attach to 2013-07-07T04:49:35 < zyp> and usually there is only one, which is why I prefer a shorthand 2013-07-07T04:49:45 < R2COM> heres my output 2013-07-07T04:50:00 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/gURK0LYS 2013-07-07T04:50:07 < R2COM> now doing it with that sequence 2013-07-07T04:50:10 < R2COM> and still doesnt work 2013-07-07T04:50:56 < R2COM> see, i pressed ctrl-c, and now again see it in lockup 2013-07-07T04:50:58 < zyp> are you certain that this program should work? 2013-07-07T04:51:11 < R2COM> yes, its the one from that eclipse build before it worked 2013-07-07T04:51:40 < zyp> try «compare-sections» 2013-07-07T04:51:46 < zyp> it'll check the flash contents 2013-07-07T04:51:48 < R2COM> hmm wait look at last line its directory... 2013-07-07T04:51:52 < R2COM> slashes in different sides 2013-07-07T04:52:12 < R2COM> (gdb) compare-sections 2013-07-07T04:52:12 < R2COM> remote target does not support this operation 2013-07-07T04:52:12 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:52:16 < zyp> I don't think that should matter 2013-07-07T04:52:17 < zyp> ok 2013-07-07T04:52:22 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T04:52:48 < zyp> well, I can't imagine that the problem is there 2013-07-07T04:53:06 < zyp> «break main» then «run» again 2013-07-07T04:53:30 < R2COM> it says starting program and goes on... 2013-07-07T04:53:34 < R2COM> now I press ctrl-c rioght? 2013-07-07T04:53:37 < zyp> yes 2013-07-07T04:53:47 < zyp> so it's still in lockup I guess? 2013-07-07T04:53:51 < R2COM> eys 2013-07-07T04:53:55 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-07T04:54:07 < zyp> hmm, wait 2013-07-07T04:54:11 < R2COM> (gdb) break main 2013-07-07T04:54:11 < R2COM> Breakpoint 2 at 0x8000b42: file main.c, line 37. 2013-07-07T04:54:17 < R2COM> and then same thing...in lockup 2013-07-07T04:54:42 < zyp> close gdb and the stlink utility, unplug the board, then plug in and try again 2013-07-07T04:54:54 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T04:55:18 < zyp> I remember some talk about texane not being able to clear a lockup condition correctly, so that might be what's happening 2013-07-07T04:56:24 < R2COM> now I geet something different 2013-07-07T04:56:36 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/YCDULhti 2013-07-07T04:57:04 < R2COM> at the end... 2013-07-07T04:57:10 < zyp> huh 2013-07-07T04:57:13 < R2COM> after I pressed ctrl-c, saw that SIGINT shit 2013-07-07T04:57:18 < zyp> ah 2013-07-07T04:57:36 < zyp> ctrl-c is interrupt, also known as SIGINT 2013-07-07T04:57:40 < R2COM> oh 2013-07-07T04:57:42 < zyp> (interrupt signal) 2013-07-07T04:57:45 < R2COM> i tried RUN again 2013-07-07T04:57:47 < R2COM> here: 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> (gdb) run 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> The program being debugged has been started already. 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> Start it from the beginning? (y or n) y 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> Starting program: D:\projects\arm\test3/out/test3.elf 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> Note: automatically using hardware breakpoints for read-only addresses. 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> main () at main.c:37 2013-07-07T04:58:01 < R2COM> 37 uint8_t d0 = 0x9f; // 11011001, test data0, for SPI2 Write 2013-07-07T04:58:02 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T04:58:06 < R2COM> this time I didnt have to do ctrl-c 2013-07-07T04:58:12 < R2COM> it stopped there automatically 2013-07-07T04:58:20 < R2COM> I guess it worked then 2013-07-07T04:58:28 < zyp> sounds like it 2013-07-07T04:58:38 < R2COM> so what you say is not sue ctrl-c there or what? 2013-07-07T04:58:43 < R2COM> use* 2013-07-07T04:59:12 < zyp> use ctrl-c when you want to force a break 2013-07-07T04:59:39 < zyp> i.e. whenever you want to pause execution 2013-07-07T05:00:05 < R2COM> and how I resume execution after ctrl-c? (because run, would mean from begining) 2013-07-07T05:00:09 < zyp> c 2013-07-07T05:00:13 < R2COM> ah 2013-07-07T05:00:15 < zyp> (continue) 2013-07-07T05:00:37 < R2COM> i hit c now 2013-07-07T05:00:38 < R2COM> and 2013-07-07T05:00:40 < R2COM> oh wow 2013-07-07T05:00:47 < R2COM> then i did ctrl-c again 2013-07-07T05:00:56 < R2COM> and it shows me line of code (some waiting loop) where it stuck 2013-07-07T05:01:00 < R2COM> so sounds right yea? 2013-07-07T05:01:04 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T05:01:12 < R2COM> its stuck in a loop waiting for some usart command, which is ok 2013-07-07T05:01:21 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-07T05:01:30 < R2COM> also I saved that link you showed before for online reg watch 2013-07-07T05:01:35 < R2COM> will have to look at it later 2013-07-07T05:02:13 < R2COM> and now... 2013-07-07T05:02:36 < R2COM> its time to perform my experiment again ( going to ideally copied project, and try to debugf that one, because all this porn started because it failed with Eclipse) 2013-07-07T05:02:38 < R2COM> doing it right now 2013-07-07T05:03:30 < zyp> just keep in mind that you can't run two gdb sessions against the same hardware at the same time 2013-07-07T05:03:39 < R2COM> yes I closed it 2013-07-07T05:03:48 < R2COM> also, i noticed that st-link server has to be closed too 2013-07-07T05:03:55 < zyp> then I can't imagine you should have any problems 2013-07-07T05:03:55 < R2COM> otherwise next connect fails to it.. 2013-07-07T05:04:28 < zyp> yeah, when I were using it, the st-link server closed itself every time gdb disconnected 2013-07-07T05:04:54 < zyp> the simple solution for that is just never closing gdb 2013-07-07T05:05:41 < R2COM> ok so 2013-07-07T05:05:43 < R2COM> hmmmmm 2013-07-07T05:05:46 < R2COM> it worked 2013-07-07T05:05:54 < R2COM> looks like I can debug ideally copied project 2013-07-07T05:06:00 < R2COM> (which is copy of another one) 2013-07-07T05:06:13 < zyp> of course 2013-07-07T05:06:36 < R2COM> well you make it sound obvious but i failed to get it done in eclipse 2013-07-07T05:06:40 < R2COM> still wasnt sure what was wrong 2013-07-07T05:06:50 < R2COM> either atollic's server with eclipse or eclipse or what... 2013-07-07T05:07:01 < R2COM> here... I just have my make file, from command line I compiled 2013-07-07T05:07:08 < R2COM> and gone through procedures you derscribed 2013-07-07T05:07:11 < R2COM> it worked 2013-07-07T05:07:13 < R2COM> only thing is.... 2013-07-07T05:07:22 < R2COM> I am now not having my sweet looking GUI debug :P 2013-07-07T05:07:31 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-07T05:07:38 < zyp> try «layout src» 2013-07-07T05:07:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-07T05:07:46 < R2COM> hmm 1 sec 2013-07-07T05:07:51 < zyp> or even «layout split» 2013-07-07T05:08:09 < R2COM> (gdb) layout src 2013-07-07T05:08:09 < R2COM> Undefined command: "layout". Try "help". 2013-07-07T05:08:09 < R2COM> (gdb) layout split 2013-07-07T05:08:09 < R2COM> Undefined command: "layout". Try "help". 2013-07-07T05:08:09 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-07T05:08:35 < zyp> ouch 2013-07-07T05:09:21 < zyp> sounds like windows-gdb doesn't support it 2013-07-07T05:09:42 < zyp> I suppose the problem is that the ncurses library isn't available for windows 2013-07-07T05:09:59 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T05:10:05 < R2COM1> (8:14:57 PM) R2COM: (gdb) 2013-07-07T05:10:05 < R2COM1> (8:15:24 PM) zyp: ouch 2013-07-07T05:10:07 < R2COM1> got disconect 2013-07-07T05:10:14 < zyp> 04:09:21 < zyp> sounds like windows-gdb doesn't support it 2013-07-07T05:10:14 < zyp> 04:09:42 < zyp> I suppose the problem is that the ncurses library isn't available for windows 2013-07-07T05:10:22 < R2COM1> hmm 2013-07-07T05:10:45 < R2COM1> what to do now, run stuff from VM under linux? :P 2013-07-07T05:10:53 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@60.sub-75-196-113.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T05:11:13 < R2COM1> i watched that movie you posted by the way 2013-07-07T05:11:20 < R2COM1> is it the way its supposed to look after layout split? 2013-07-07T05:11:25 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T05:11:27 < zyp> yeah 2013-07-07T05:11:35 < R2COM1> and you did it in linxu 2013-07-07T05:11:42 < zyp> no, OS X 2013-07-07T05:11:47 < R2COM1> hm 2013-07-07T05:11:59 < zyp> but it would be the same in linux 2013-07-07T05:12:19 < R2COM1> so gdb has that graphical support in linux and mac only then 2013-07-07T05:12:21 < zyp> OS X and linux have pretty much the same command line environment 2013-07-07T05:12:31 < R2COM1> ok 2013-07-07T05:13:06 < zyp> another thing you might want to try is eclipse with the texane gdbserver instead of atollic 2013-07-07T05:13:11 < zyp> maybe that's more successful for you 2013-07-07T05:13:13 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T05:13:15 < R2COM1> ah 2013-07-07T05:13:18 < R2COM1> lets see... 2013-07-07T05:14:46 < R2COM1> so 2013-07-07T05:14:56 < R2COM1> it doesnt print anything in console of eclipse after connect.. 2013-07-07T05:14:58 < R2COM1> heh 2013-07-07T05:15:04 < R2COM1> or 2013-07-07T05:15:13 < R2COM1> I guess i can start texane server manuall not through eclipse 2013-07-07T05:15:49 < R2COM1> hey wow! 2013-07-07T05:15:52 < R2COM1> it worked man 2013-07-07T05:16:06 < R2COM1> err... worked on ORIGINAL project...let me try now on ideally copied one... 2013-07-07T05:17:22 < R2COM1> and...it worked.... 2013-07-07T05:17:25 < R2COM1> haha 2013-07-07T05:17:36 < R2COM1> so heres what I did: 2013-07-07T05:17:53 < R2COM1> 1) start st-util from texan by itself from command line (not from eclipse as I did with atollics) 2013-07-07T05:18:05 < R2COM1> 2) in eclispe just change port to 4242, and start debug 2013-07-07T05:18:18 < R2COM1> then I could step etc...run...pause... on ideally copied project too 2013-07-07T05:18:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T05:20:12 < R2COM1> but I guess...its still worth it buying bmp anyhow.. 2013-07-07T05:20:31 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-07T05:21:51 < R2COM> but eclipse to be honest, is pretty buggy by itself 2013-07-07T05:22:07 < R2COM> sometimes I see tons of Bug signs, saying that something couldnt be resolved 2013-07-07T05:22:18 < R2COM> (even though it did resolved, and compiled well..) 2013-07-07T05:22:46 < R2COM> so... on the long run...it might still of course make sense to get some commercial tools 2013-07-07T05:23:35 < zyp> that's up to you 2013-07-07T05:23:46 < zyp> get the tools that suits the way you want to work 2013-07-07T05:23:50 < R2COM> well see, as you figured out, gdb doenst have that feature on windows 2013-07-07T05:24:01 < R2COM> layout split/src 2013-07-07T05:24:10 < zyp> well, to be perfectly honest I haven't used it before either 2013-07-07T05:24:17 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-07T05:24:19 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T05:24:24 < zyp> I weren't really aware of it before jpa- mentioned it earlier today 2013-07-07T05:24:39 < R2COM> you just used commands to read regs. step, breaks, and thats mainly it? 2013-07-07T05:24:44 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T05:25:04 < R2COM> I guess its nots that bad once you get used to it isnt it? 2013-07-07T05:25:15 < zyp> that's right 2013-07-07T05:26:25 < zyp> I've never really liked any debugger GUIs I've used, I like the flexibility of typing what I want to do instead of clicking around in menus 2013-07-07T05:28:06 < R2COM> by the way in your ,gdbinit 2013-07-07T05:28:13 < R2COM> attach_jtag is also needed for bmp? 2013-07-07T05:31:01 < gxti> anything starting with 'mon' is sent directly to the gdbserver, so yes 2013-07-07T05:31:20 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T05:36:30 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-07T05:37:12 < zyp> yep 2013-07-07T05:37:51 < zyp> mon is short for monitor, which is what gdb calls the gdbserver (because it's monitoring execution) 2013-07-07T05:37:59 < R2COM> and itas made to do demo load right away 2013-07-07T05:38:16 < R2COM> what is that mem inacessible... for? 2013-07-07T05:40:59 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@60.sub-75-196-113.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T05:42:00 < zyp> reading addresses outside what is considered memory 2013-07-07T05:42:37 < zyp> I like poking at various stuff directly from the debugger, and I don't want gdb to complain about there being no memory there 2013-07-07T05:48:58 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@60.sub-75-196-113.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T05:49:27 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T06:12:32 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@180.sub-75-233-173.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T06:13:11 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest84243 2013-07-07T06:13:14 -!- Guest84243 [~bjfree@60.sub-75-196-113.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T06:13:19 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T06:14:07 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T06:14:12 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T06:17:47 < dongs> blogs 2013-07-07T06:20:26 < dongs> hmm 2013-07-07T06:20:31 < dongs> NCP1532 2013-07-07T06:23:27 < dongs> wonder if thats cheaper than 2 NCP1521s 2013-07-07T06:24:38 < dongs> hmm and ive got a ton of htem 2013-07-07T06:24:43 < dongs> might have to just use it. 2013-07-07T06:27:54 < dongs> hm evalboard gerber looks pretty crappy 2013-07-07T06:51:00 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@180.sub-75-233-173.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T07:01:28 < emeb_mac> dual 1.0A buck switcher. not bad 2013-07-07T07:02:48 < dongs> and just the voltages i need, too 2013-07-07T07:03:14 < dongs> was gonna use for 1.2 and 3.3 2013-07-07T07:03:29 < emeb_mac> looks good. 2013-07-07T07:03:41 < R2COM> thats one I liked http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/LTC3633EFE%23PBF/LTC3633EFE%23PBF-ND/2225704 2013-07-07T07:03:47 < emeb_mac> too bad it only goes up to 5.5V vin 2013-07-07T07:03:54 < dongs> emeb_mac: not a problem for me. 2013-07-07T07:03:57 < dongs> but yeah. 2013-07-07T07:04:13 < dongs> R2COM always likes dumb shit 2013-07-07T07:04:17 < dongs> R2COM: do they make that in DIP 2013-07-07T07:04:21 < dongs> or maybe CERDIP 2013-07-07T07:04:27 < R2COM> what 2013-07-07T07:04:27 < emeb_mac> I've got some stuff that needs up to 16V vin 2013-07-07T07:04:28 < dongs> and/or rad-hard 2013-07-07T07:04:29 < R2COM> why 2013-07-07T07:04:37 < R2COM> emeb_mac: I showed link 2013-07-07T07:04:42 < R2COM> oh its 15vin 2013-07-07T07:04:56 < emeb_mac> R2COM: also $$$ 2013-07-07T07:04:58 < R2COM> but its a good buck which can work up to 4MHz if needed 2013-07-07T07:05:32 < emeb_mac> Nat'l / TI has a cute little part that handles 16V -> 3.3V and costs < $1 2013-07-07T07:05:50 < R2COM> dual ? 2013-07-07T07:05:54 < R2COM> how many Amps each cahn 2013-07-07T07:06:37 < emeb_mac> nah, not dual 2013-07-07T07:06:58 < R2COM> yeah well there are many companies which do bucks 2013-07-07T07:07:12 < R2COM> I guess my 2nd choiceafter linear would be either analog devices or TI 2013-07-07T07:07:30 < R2COM> forgot if ADi makes them though or it only does ldos 2013-07-07T07:07:42 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@157.sub-75-233-196.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T07:08:13 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T07:08:53 < emeb_mac> http://www.ti.com/product/lmr14203 2013-07-07T07:09:46 < dongs> ij 2013-07-07T07:09:47 < dongs> uh' 2013-07-07T07:10:34 < emeb_mac> SOT6 pkg - two of those is smaller than that LTC part. 2013-07-07T07:11:00 < emeb_mac> but current is only up to a few hundred ma, so not for all apps. 2013-07-07T07:12:50 < dongs> it appears i bought 100+ of those dual NCP shits for some dead project couple years ago 2013-07-07T07:12:55 < dongs> so i might as well use htem 2013-07-07T07:13:30 < emeb_mac> inventory - what a concept 2013-07-07T07:14:53 < R2COM> I have really enormously huge inventory 2013-07-07T07:15:02 < R2COM> its called, digikey 2013-07-07T07:15:11 < emeb_mac> that's cheating 2013-07-07T07:16:03 < R2COM> nowadays logistics works fast, I can have anything delivered fast whenever needed 2013-07-07T07:16:23 < R2COM> ...if nuclear war is not in active progress 2013-07-07T07:25:31 < HTT-Bird> R2COM: ADI has some switchers I think 2013-07-07T07:34:22 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@157.sub-75-233-196.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-07T07:52:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-07T08:11:15 < R2COM> so 2013-07-07T08:11:17 < R2COM> question 2013-07-07T08:11:24 < R2COM> keil has that superb compiler 2013-07-07T08:11:34 < R2COM> is it possible to for example buy just that compiler? 2013-07-07T08:11:38 < R2COM> and nothing else 2013-07-07T08:11:45 < R2COM> no suite, no ide... just that compiler ? 2013-07-07T08:11:56 < R2COM> or similar good/efficient compiler for ARMs from someone else? 2013-07-07T08:16:09 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T08:19:46 < dongs> nope 2013-07-07T08:20:16 < R2COM> so noone else came up with efficient compiler for arms except Keil? 2013-07-07T08:21:56 < dongs> pretty much 2013-07-07T08:22:02 < dongs> I think intel might have something 2013-07-07T08:22:04 < dongs> ICCARM or someshit? 2013-07-07T08:22:12 < dongs> hm no 2013-07-07T08:22:16 < dongs> thats imagecraft crap 2013-07-07T08:38:20 < PaulFertser> dongs: rlink is not ftdi-based, it runs on some older st micro. 2013-07-07T08:38:33 < dongs> surprising. 2013-07-07T08:38:38 < dongs> well it still sucks 2013-07-07T08:38:47 < dongs> not supporting CMSIS-DAP in any modern IDE = business plan fail 2013-07-07T08:39:12 < dongs> the days of having to get a specialized dongle jsut for your target are fucking over 2013-07-07T08:44:13 < PaulFertser> R2COM: btw, if you compile with "-g3" you'll be able to use cpp macros right inside gdb, as in "p/x *TIM1" 2013-07-07T08:44:58 < R2COM> so what exactly would it give me? 2013-07-07T08:44:59 < PaulFertser> R2COM: so it was the attolic non-free shit in the end that was playing tricks on you, heh 2013-07-07T08:45:09 < R2COM> well 2013-07-07T08:45:25 < R2COM> it was free, it came with LITE package of atollic :P 2013-07-07T08:46:45 < PaulFertser> R2COM: gdb will be able to expand all c preprocessor macros, the command i gave would show you all the fields of a struct that has address TIM1 (#define'd), that's from stdperiph lib, it just maps over the timer1 peripheral registers. 2013-07-07T08:47:11 < R2COM> well I'm not using stdperiph 2013-07-07T08:47:19 < R2COM> so all #define'd 2013-07-07T08:47:20 < dongs> TIM1 is not stdperiphlib? 2013-07-07T08:47:21 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T08:47:25 < dongs> isnt that cmsis 2013-07-07T08:47:26 < PaulFertser> Yes, but the ability to auto-expand macros is still useful. 2013-07-07T08:47:45 < PaulFertser> dongs: probably 2013-07-07T08:48:13 < R2COM> so lets say I have #define FOO1 0x000fff, #define FOO2 0xfffc etc... that command p/x *FOO will show printout of both FOO1 and FOO2? 2013-07-07T08:48:41 < PaulFertser> R2COM: no, * there is for dereference, it'll show you the 32-bit value located at FOO (if you had that macro defined). 2013-07-07T08:48:56 < PaulFertser> (show in heX) 2013-07-07T08:49:56 < R2COM> so if I have say, SR (status register) for SPI or whatever, what would be best way of viewing it? 2013-07-07T08:50:10 < R2COM> that way you showed? 2013-07-07T08:50:40 < PaulFertser> With gdb you can even run arbitrary functions with arguments (and btw you can do it from inside Eclipse too if you select gdb in the upper-left list of threads). e.g. "p send_uart('b')" 2013-07-07T08:51:05 < PaulFertser> p/x SPI1->SR 2013-07-07T08:51:46 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-07T08:51:51 < R2COM> so "->" works there too? 2013-07-07T08:51:56 < PaulFertser> Yes, and + and & 2013-07-07T08:52:03 < R2COM> pretty neat 2013-07-07T08:52:17 < R2COM> maybe I should get used to it, and wont need eclipse then 2013-07-07T08:52:56 < PaulFertser> That uVision my coworker was using didn't allow anything like that. Does modern Keil support C-style expressions and macro expanding, dongs? 2013-07-07T08:53:22 < dongs> macro what 2013-07-07T08:53:34 < dongs> you can watch memory/variables, yeah 2013-07-07T08:53:36 < PaulFertser> dongs: using symbols you #defined in expressions 2013-07-07T08:53:37 < dongs> it'll expand structs and shit 2013-07-07T08:53:47 < dongs> no idea, I don't use retarded macro hacks 2013-07-07T08:53:55 < dongs> that is shit code practice anyway. 2013-07-07T08:54:00 < PaulFertser> dongs: how do you define memory locations then? 2013-07-07T08:54:05 < dongs> ? 2013-07-07T08:54:06 < PaulFertser> With const variables, lol? 2013-07-07T08:54:12 < dongs> they're structs in cmsis 2013-07-07T08:54:22 < PaulFertser> Memory location can't be a struct. 2013-07-07T08:54:27 < dongs> ? 2013-07-07T08:54:29 < dongs> sure it can? 2013-07-07T08:54:40 < dongs> (struct faggot *)0x40000000 2013-07-07T08:55:00 < dongs> or am I missing somethign 2013-07-07T08:55:03 < PaulFertser> Yes, the location itself is scalar, and you cast it to a pointer to struct. 2013-07-07T08:55:11 < dongs> uh yeaH? 2013-07-07T08:55:19 < dongs> and? 2013-07-07T08:55:36 < PaulFertser> And now, i'm asking, if you have "#define MYPERIPH 0x40000000" somewhere in your code, can Keil use MYPERIPH in "watch expressions"? 2013-07-07T08:55:53 < dongs> fuck no, and that's a megadum thing to do anyway. 2013-07-07T08:56:05 < dongs> plus you can watch all peripheral registers from debugger gui 2013-07-07T08:56:15 < dongs> if thats your only application for it, thats already taken care of. 2013-07-07T08:56:35 < dongs> i.e. i can go click peripherals->GPIO->GPIOA and it'll show all the stuff with it 2013-07-07T08:56:44 < dongs> clocks, register status, bla bla 2013-07-07T08:56:53 < PaulFertser> dongs: what about evaluating arbitrary expressions? Can you call functions (from your firmware on your target) from inside the debugger? 2013-07-07T08:57:19 < R2COM> PaulFertser: can you show example line of code of calling for example some function right from gdb console? 2013-07-07T08:57:45 < PaulFertser> R2COM: it's the same "p" command, you just type "p yourfunction(arguments)" as you would have used inside the code itself. 2013-07-07T08:58:21 < R2COM> and my function must be defined in code or what? 2013-07-07T08:58:41 < R2COM> for example it must have its body defined in outside of main() or? 2013-07-07T08:58:51 < R2COM> in any file within code worspace or? 2013-07-07T08:59:02 < dongs> PaulFertser: dunno, there's immediate mode command line thing. it probably can. I never looked because I've never had any use for it. 2013-07-07T08:59:29 < PaulFertser> R2COM: yes, just a usual function that is inside your firmware. If it's not called from anything the linker will probably strip it out. But if it's some "toggle_bit" you're using in your code anyway, you can also call it from gdb any time you like. 2013-07-07T08:59:55 < R2COM> thats cool 2013-07-07T09:00:07 < R2COM> its really nice opportunity 2013-07-07T09:00:11 < dongs> open source, creating solutions for non-problems 2013-07-07T09:00:30 < R2COM> well no...I have tons of applications for when I'd want to use function call during debug 2013-07-07T09:00:41 < dongs> i dont. 2013-07-07T09:00:45 < R2COM> I do. 2013-07-07T09:01:23 < R2COM> what if for example you talking to some sensor, and you debugging your code and at same time behavior of sensor 2013-07-07T09:01:28 < R2COM> you dont want to recompile every time 2013-07-07T09:01:30 < R2COM> and run again 2013-07-07T09:01:41 < R2COM> just to run some function, which for example bursts 8-10 commands to sensor 2013-07-07T09:01:48 < PaulFertser> dongs's pro tools are so fast that recompiling and reflashing takes no time at all 2013-07-07T09:02:39 < dongs> R2COM: yeah.. you can just set instruction pointer to restart wahtever code you want to re-run.. and do it again.. 2013-07-07T09:02:52 < dongs> I don't see any reason to run arbitrary functions outside of program running scope 2013-07-07T09:03:03 < R2COM> well, that would work too 2013-07-07T09:03:38 < PaulFertser> And prepare the args and place a breakpoint ta stop when it finishes, all manually. 2013-07-07T09:04:37 < R2COM> heh true too 2013-07-07T09:04:48 < R2COM> fast function shots from gdb are + 2013-07-07T09:06:12 < PaulFertser> R2COM: you can also use "c 5" which means continue, ignore the next 4 hits of this breakpoint you're currently stopped at, stop on the fifth. 2013-07-07T09:06:19 < dongs> i didnt say it wasnt doable, I have no idea if it is or not since like I said, I cant think of any useful purpose for it 2013-07-07T09:06:33 < dongs> uh yeah, conditional breakpoints is basic thing in any debugger 2013-07-07T09:07:02 < PaulFertser> dongs: i remember my coworker was struggling a lot with simply casting something in "watches", probably it was void* to some struct* or something slightly more complicated. 2013-07-07T09:07:33 < dongs> you mean his code was shit and he was doing hacks opensauce dudes usually do, and expecting proper shit to work? 2013-07-07T09:07:36 < dongs> most likely. 2013-07-07T09:07:40 < PaulFertser> While in gdb it all just works, with C-like syntax 2013-07-07T09:07:48 < dongs> > gdb 2013-07-07T09:07:49 < dongs> > just works 2013-07-07T09:07:53 < dongs> im gonna go laugh fora while 2013-07-07T09:08:02 < PaulFertser> dongs: he's not an opensaucude, but a typical proprietary firmware coder. 2013-07-07T09:09:40 < PaulFertser> dongs: granted, he's not as smart as you, but I needed to help him debugging his shit, and somehow uVision didn't allow debugging comfortably. Isn't that what a good debugger is for, debugging shit? 2013-07-07T09:10:26 < R2COM> here what I really would love to play with http://www.coherentlogix.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=61 2013-07-07T09:12:41 < R2COM> anyhow, tomorrow will play more with gdb 2013-07-07T09:13:00 < R2COM> and later, I'm looking into getting bmp shit maybe 2013-07-07T09:13:11 < R2COM> and be independent of GDB server (from texane) 2013-07-07T09:14:05 < PaulFertser> I think OpenOCD works better than texane. 2013-07-07T09:14:17 < R2COM> open ocd has its own server? 2013-07-07T09:14:18 < R2COM> or what 2013-07-07T09:15:11 < PaulFertser> R2COM: OpenOCD is a gdbserver, and OpenOCD knows how to talk to stlink, so for your case it's sort of "texane" replacement. 2013-07-07T09:15:31 < R2COM> yeah but i better get bmp and use that with gdb 2013-07-07T09:15:41 < PaulFertser> openocd -f interface/stlink-v2.cfg -f target/stm32f3x_stlink.cfg 2013-07-07T09:15:56 < PaulFertser> And it listens on 3333 port. 2013-07-07T09:16:14 < R2COM> the last time I decided to mess with it i couldnt get it to work on win7 2013-07-07T09:16:15 < PaulFertser> BMP is a nice device 2013-07-07T09:16:16 < R2COM> also 2013-07-07T09:16:22 < R2COM> I had to remove original st-link drivers 2013-07-07T09:16:25 < R2COM> and use its own drivers 2013-07-07T09:16:29 < PaulFertser> This time it's different 2013-07-07T09:16:32 < R2COM> which is then st-link utility didnt work 2013-07-07T09:16:37 < PaulFertser> It doesn't require any of that shit anymore. 2013-07-07T09:16:43 < PaulFertser> Works with stlink drivers out of the box. 2013-07-07T09:16:44 < R2COM> it still will want me to replace st-link original driver? 2013-07-07T09:16:46 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T09:16:59 < PaulFertser> The last 0.7 version windows build from Freddie Chopin. 2013-07-07T09:17:12 < R2COM> haha 2013-07-07T09:17:14 < PaulFertser> I tried it myself on W7 with stm32f4discovery on a coworker's pc a month ago. 2013-07-07T09:17:22 < R2COM> Im using linker script and stuff from freddie chopin 2013-07-07T09:17:38 < R2COM> is he the guy who did OpenOCD? 2013-07-07T09:17:46 < PaulFertser> He's one of the maintainers. 2013-07-07T09:19:33 < R2COM> also, with that concept of gdb debug 2013-07-07T09:19:48 < R2COM> i guess it would take little time to do the stuff for any other device with supported gcc toolchain 2013-07-07T09:19:59 < R2COM> like for example those Atmel's processors for 400MHz or so 2013-07-07T09:20:02 < R2COM> or TI's 2013-07-07T09:20:12 < R2COM> I guess they provide code needed to compile with gcc 2013-07-07T09:20:26 < R2COM> (so that you dont have for example use that Code Composer i guess) 2013-07-07T09:20:35 < R2COM> but for some of TI's parts I guess you have to... 2013-07-07T09:20:49 < PaulFertser> And btw, OpenOCD never had its own drivers, but for some stuff it used to require libusb-win32 which is an implementation of libusb-0.1 (plus some extensions) API for windows because that professional OS lacked any kind of standard way to talk to USB devices from the userspace until Vista (where WinUSB.sys was finally introduced). 2013-07-07T09:21:17 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T09:22:26 < dongs> PaulFertser is so funny when talking about "professional" opensores trash like "libusb" that would insert a filter driver on top of EVERY usb device on windows, basically rendering the whole box unusable 2013-07-07T09:22:42 < dongs> installing libusb on a machine = oops, time to format + reinstall 2013-07-07T09:23:09 < PaulFertser> dongs: i'm not talking about professional libusb, i'm talking about your professional OS windows which _required_ anyone who wanted to talk to usb devices from userspace to do that shit (until Vista). 2013-07-07T09:24:48 < PaulFertser> R2COM: usually gcc and gdb support appear at the same time, because else it would be hard to implement i guess. 2013-07-07T09:25:52 < R2COM> I guess TI's DSPs cant be used with gcc 2013-07-07T09:25:56 < R2COM> only those with ARMs 2013-07-07T09:26:17 < PaulFertser> blackfins are supported by gcc 2013-07-07T09:26:24 < R2COM> whats blackfin 2013-07-07T09:26:30 < PaulFertser> Analog Devices DSPs 2013-07-07T09:26:35 < PaulFertser> With custom architecture 2013-07-07T09:26:47 < R2COM> what you eman by custom? 2013-07-07T09:27:04 < PaulFertser> Not ARM, not MIPS, not anything like that. 2013-07-07T09:27:05 < R2COM> not configurable by user of course right? 2013-07-07T09:27:08 < R2COM> ahh 2013-07-07T09:27:10 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T09:28:02 < PaulFertser> iirc those TMS* DSP parts are using VLIW architecture, so non-vendor compilers are super-inefficient and hard to write. So it's up to the vendor if he wants to support gcc or not. 2013-07-07T09:28:05 < R2COM> http://www.ti.com/tool/bioslinuxmcsdk 2013-07-07T09:28:35 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-07T09:28:50 < R2COM> I guess it doesnt provide support with those 2013-07-07T09:29:09 < R2COM> anyhow... I saw on Atmel sites lots of chips with >400MHz with ready to download project templates 2013-07-07T09:29:15 < R2COM> with makefiles etc as examples 2013-07-07T09:29:21 < R2COM> to compile with gcc 2013-07-07T09:29:36 < dongs> atmel studio would be a much better choice for any of tha 2013-07-07T09:29:37 < PaulFertser> But even if gcc is not supported the debugging with gdb might still be because vendor compilers often use ELF too. 2013-07-07T09:29:37 < dongs> that. 2013-07-07T09:29:46 < R2COM> the thing is, it didnt had it 2013-07-07T09:29:48 < R2COM> for some reason 2013-07-07T09:29:50 < R2COM> I remember that 2013-07-07T09:30:01 < R2COM> I downloaded Atmel Studio, and those processors were not there 2013-07-07T09:30:03 < dongs> then its obsolete and/or atmel doesnt want anyone using thier trash 2013-07-07T09:30:06 < R2COM> nah 2013-07-07T09:30:09 < dongs> yes. 2013-07-07T09:30:26 < dongs> providing only opensauce trash w/your hardware = you're limiting your audience to basement dwellers 2013-07-07T09:30:29 < R2COM> then maybe..they just didnt implement it thats it..for their ide 2013-07-07T09:30:40 < dongs> who dont acutally buy shit and expect it free 2013-07-07T09:30:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T09:31:02 < R2COM> well they will buy chips 2013-07-07T09:31:07 < R2COM> because chips are not expencive 2013-07-07T09:31:18 < PaulFertser> dongs: ever wondered why you have to use different IDEs for different vendor SoC/uC/CPU parts? Similar but different enough to be annoying? 2013-07-07T09:35:21 < R2COM> for example I dont see SAM9 2013-07-07T09:35:24 < R2COM> in atmel studio 2013-07-07T09:35:28 < R2COM> http://www.atmel.com/devices/SAM9G46.aspx?tab=tools 2013-07-07T09:35:38 < R2COM> but here one can get their package with gcc related shit for compile 2013-07-07T09:35:55 < R2COM> I even built once just for curiosity their stuff right away...didnt plan to use it though 2013-07-07T09:36:29 < R2COM> those are 400MHz chips, for 20$ 2013-07-07T09:36:34 < R2COM> with arm core 2013-07-07T09:37:03 -!- scrts_ [~quassel@46.17.57.19] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T09:38:03 < dongs> SAM9? that shit's deader than *BSD 2013-07-07T09:38:14 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T09:38:19 < dongs> and noone uses it, either 2013-07-07T09:38:23 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T09:38:27 < PaulFertser> dongs: what other $20 400MHz ARM chip can you suggest? 2013-07-07T09:39:00 < PaulFertser> ARM9 with MMU to run "shit" 2013-07-07T09:39:03 -!- mervaka [~mervaka@mervaka.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T09:39:15 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ATSAMA5D33A-CU/ATSAMA5D33A-CU-ND/3911017 ? 2013-07-07T09:39:37 < dongs> ARM9 is fucking dead, who the fuck would use that shit today? 2013-07-07T09:39:52 < dongs> Cortex Ax is where it's at 2013-07-07T09:40:00 < R2COM> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MCIMX233CAG4B/MCIMX233CAG4B-ND/2253551 2013-07-07T09:40:03 < dongs> I remember going to some atmel seminar about at91 trash 5-6 years ago 2013-07-07T09:40:05 < dongs> and it was dead back then 2013-07-07T09:40:08 < dongs> haha imx23 2013-07-07T09:40:09 < PaulFertser> dongs: what alternative can you suggest? For 20$, the same speed? 2013-07-07T09:40:13 < dongs> man that CPU is trash 2013-07-07T09:40:24 < R2COM> here is alternative http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MCIMX233CAG4B/MCIMX233CAG4B-ND/2253551 2013-07-07T09:40:26 < dongs> > Limited quantity available, not recommended for new design. LOL 2013-07-07T09:40:30 < dongs> yeah NO KIDDING 2013-07-07T09:40:37 < dongs> it wasn't recommended for new design even when it came out 2013-07-07T09:40:39 < dongs> PaulFertser: i just linked you shit 2013-07-07T09:40:49 < R2COM> look at my link 2013-07-07T09:40:51 < R2COM> 9$ 2013-07-07T09:40:54 < dongs> yeah, its garbage 2013-07-07T09:40:55 < R2COM> 454MHz' 2013-07-07T09:40:58 < dongs> its freescale i.mx 2013-07-07T09:41:03 < R2COM> why garbage? 2013-07-07T09:41:20 < dongs> http://www.adafruit.com/products/278 2013-07-07T09:41:21 < dongs> because this. 2013-07-07T09:41:30 < emeb_mac> w00t - full-duplex I2S and I2C control channel working on F303. 2013-07-07T09:41:52 < R2COM> what has adafruti to do with imx? 2013-07-07T09:43:05 < R2COM> ok that 15$ 536MHz part good one 2013-07-07T09:43:06 < PaulFertser> I'm using i.MX25 at work, it does its thing nicely. 2013-07-07T09:43:07 < R2COM> A5 2013-07-07T09:43:27 < dongs> < R2COM> why garbage? 2013-07-07T09:43:31 < dongs> its obsolete arm9 core 2013-07-07T09:43:38 < R2COM> ahh 2013-07-07T09:43:40 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-07T09:43:44 < dongs> and its slow 2013-07-07T09:43:47 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: mervaka_, scrts 2013-07-07T09:43:47 < dongs> very slow 2013-07-07T09:43:49 < dongs> and very shit memory bandwidth 2013-07-07T09:43:56 < dongs> plus it runs lunix 2013-07-07T09:44:02 < dongs> which means you're wasting 50% of the cpu just on that. 2013-07-07T09:44:02 < emeb_mac> meh - ancient chumby junk 2013-07-07T09:45:00 < dongs> anyway imx23 is mega old 2013-07-07T09:45:03 < PaulFertser> dongs: i wonder if you use a wifi ap at home, does it waste 50% on "lunix" too? 2013-07-07T09:45:06 < dongs> around same timeframe as sam9 2013-07-07T09:45:25 < dongs> PaulFertser: no, my home network is lunix-free 2013-07-07T09:45:32 < dongs> which is why its also fast 2013-07-07T09:45:33 < PaulFertser> dongs: what's your AP? 2013-07-07T09:45:36 < PaulFertser> Cisco? 2013-07-07T09:45:37 < dongs> I dont have one. 2013-07-07T09:46:17 < PaulFertser> Then it must be wired GigE everywhere, ok, reasonable. 2013-07-07T09:46:28 < dongs> it is. 2013-07-07T09:46:35 < dongs> and outgoing router is http://jp.yamaha.com/products/network/routers/rtx1000/ 2013-07-07T09:46:40 < dongs> which does NOT run lunix in any shape or form. 2013-07-07T09:46:43 < dongs> which is also why it works. 2013-07-07T09:47:14 < dongs> and does >100mbit ipsec VPN 2013-07-07T09:47:15 < dongs> on 2002 hardware 2013-07-07T09:47:43 < PaulFertser> dongs: is professional Juniper equipment also trash? 2013-07-07T09:48:01 < dongs> anythign that claims to be "professional" while running lunix to avoid paying license fees, is trash. yes. 2013-07-07T09:48:49 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T09:49:00 < PaulFertser> dongs: i'm asking you about Juniper, they do not claim they run lunix. 2013-07-07T09:49:16 < dongs> I have no idea, I am not an IT guy 2013-07-07T09:49:47 < PaulFertser> dongs: ask your networking fellows then. 2013-07-07T09:49:49 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T09:49:54 < R2COM> whoa 2013-07-07T09:49:55 < R2COM> http://www.atmel.com/devices/SAMA5D33.aspx?tab=parameters 2013-07-07T09:50:00 < R2COM> jere is that 15$ part 2013-07-07T09:50:02 < R2COM> even has FPU 2013-07-07T09:50:06 < R2COM> 536MHz 2013-07-07T09:50:16 < R2COM> and bunch of everyday use peripherals 2013-07-07T09:50:26 < R2COM> and can talk to DDR2 2013-07-07T09:50:35 < R2COM> (i guess it has hard controller for it hopefully) 2013-07-07T09:50:55 < R2COM> that shit seems to be pretty neat 2013-07-07T09:51:07 < R2COM> I mean..its like, pay 4$ more than you pay for stm32f4 and get that :P 2013-07-07T09:51:07 < PaulFertser> dongs: those stupid Juniper engineers dare to share market with Cisco using JunOS which is FreeBSD-based. 2013-07-07T09:51:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-07T09:52:41 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-07T09:52:46 < R2COM> nbut that s 0.8mm BGA pitch 2013-07-07T09:52:54 < R2COM> mmm doable I guess on 5/5 mil boards 2013-07-07T09:53:00 < R2COM> with 18mil vias 2013-07-07T09:53:52 < R2COM> so what do you think 2013-07-07T09:53:54 < R2COM> cool chip? 2013-07-07T09:54:42 < R2COM> fukll temperature range as well 2013-07-07T09:54:52 < dongs> nothing too special, chinese cortex Ax SoCs have been doing this for years for cheaper 2013-07-07T09:55:02 < R2COM> links for them? 2013-07-07T09:55:10 < dongs> i.e. allwinner/infortmic etc. 2013-07-07T09:55:25 < dongs> Allwinner A10 is like $4-5 or something in qty 2013-07-07T09:55:56 < dongs> but its all filthy lunix shit 2013-07-07T09:55:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T09:56:20 < R2COM> what you mean filthy linux shit? 2013-07-07T09:56:25 < R2COM> dont put linux on it then 2013-07-07T09:56:42 < R2COM> I can run my own program on that atmel chip, i dont have to put any fucking linux 2013-07-07T09:57:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T09:58:06 < dongs> i'd be surprised if theres much support for running shit on the bare metal on that. 2013-07-07T09:58:27 < R2COM> what kind of support you need? 2013-07-07T09:58:37 < R2COM> datasheet register description and thats it 2013-07-07T09:59:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.228.84] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T09:59:07 < R2COM> and maybe some very basic example 2013-07-07T09:59:11 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-07T09:59:11 < R2COM> just with linker script etc 2013-07-07T10:00:12 < dongs> dinker script 2013-07-07T10:00:41 < R2COM> http://www.atmel.com/tools/SAMA5D3SOFTWAREPACKAGE.aspx 2013-07-07T10:00:52 < R2COM> all in that zip file 2013-07-07T10:01:07 < dongs> > gnu software package 2013-07-07T10:01:42 < R2COM> well yeah... 2013-07-07T10:01:58 < R2COM> theres also for EWARM 2013-07-07T10:02:02 < R2COM> or whatever that stuff is 2013-07-07T10:02:07 < R2COM> IAR 2013-07-07T10:02:20 < R2COM> so here is strange thing, see its not in Atmel studio 2013-07-07T10:02:29 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@212.255.232.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T10:02:30 < R2COM> for some reason they dint put it there 2013-07-07T10:02:36 < R2COM> but gave gnu and IAR support 2013-07-07T10:02:40 < dongs> seems ok 2013-07-07T10:02:43 < dongs> i thought that would be lunix trash 2013-07-07T10:02:45 < dongs> looks baremetal 2013-07-07T10:04:08 < R2COM> that Alwinner shit is developed and built by china? 2013-07-07T10:04:26 < dongs> ya, they cobbled together a bunch of (probably stolen) IP and got it fabbed 2013-07-07T10:04:34 < dongs> they dont even have docs for some of hte IP blocks 2013-07-07T10:04:51 < dongs> infotmic is same shit. 2013-07-07T10:05:03 < dongs> they're cheap, that trash is in all the cheapass chinese tablets/crapphones etc 2013-07-07T10:05:20 < R2COM> or missiles maybe 2013-07-07T10:05:24 < R2COM> unlikely ;) 2013-07-07T10:05:50 < R2COM> I dont think its stolen IP 2013-07-07T10:05:58 < R2COM> I mean, if they ahd money to do such huge amount 2013-07-07T10:06:02 < dongs> i would imagine it is 2013-07-07T10:06:02 < R2COM> what a big deal to buy legally IP 2013-07-07T10:06:23 < R2COM> price to buy IP compared to price of fabbing all those huge amounts etc is like nothing probably 2013-07-07T10:06:40 < dongs> then why dont have docs? 2013-07-07T10:06:47 < R2COM> not sure 2013-07-07T10:07:06 < R2COM> but it wont make sense to buy bmw 760 and then try to steal tires for it... 2013-07-07T10:07:28 < dongs> in china anything makes sense 2013-07-07T10:07:40 < dongs> they will do whatever to save $0.01 2013-07-07T10:07:48 < R2COM> heh 2013-07-07T10:07:49 < dongs> if that means using stolen IP, the better. 2013-07-07T10:08:05 < dongs> so when are you making a sama5 board? 2013-07-07T10:08:14 < R2COM> hm not sure 2013-07-07T10:08:34 < R2COM> still looking skimming through its datasheet 2013-07-07T10:08:45 < dongs> we discussed it in here couple months ago 2013-07-07T10:08:49 < dongs> when atmel first spammed it. 2013-07-07T10:08:49 < R2COM> i dont have *need* right now for 500MHz anyhow 2013-07-07T10:09:05 < R2COM> couple months? so its relatively new chip then 2013-07-07T10:09:53 < R2COM> is there dev board already 2013-07-07T10:09:54 < R2COM> dont see it 2013-07-07T10:10:44 < R2COM> http://www.atmel.com/tools/SAMA5D33-EK.aspx 2013-07-07T10:10:49 < dongs> ytes that 2013-07-07T10:11:04 < R2COM> no need to do the board then 2013-07-07T10:11:05 < R2COM> well 2013-07-07T10:11:05 < dongs> its like 500bucks or someshit if i remember correctly 2013-07-07T10:11:07 < R2COM> its 600$ 2013-07-07T10:11:11 < R2COM> heh 2013-07-07T10:11:26 < R2COM> but it has fucktons of things I wouldnt need to test 2013-07-07T10:12:02 < R2COM> bare chip+DDR2+breakouts for SPI/UART like stuff is enough 2013-07-07T10:12:13 < R2COM> + maybe high speed IO breakjout with Samtec connectors 2013-07-07T10:12:26 < R2COM> to interface to Xilinx boards if one wants 2013-07-07T10:12:53 < R2COM> I see that chip also has 1Gb etherbnet 2013-07-07T10:13:25 < dongs> one of them even has 2 2013-07-07T10:13:58 < R2COM> ATSAMA5D35 2013-07-07T10:15:02 < dongs> TI also has some cortex A8 trash 2013-07-07T10:15:03 < dongs> never used 2013-07-07T10:15:07 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/arm/sitara_arm_cortex_a_processor/sitara_arm_cortex_a8/am335x_arm_cortex_a8/products.page?paramCriteria=no&DCMP=AM33x_Announcement&HQS=am335x 2013-07-07T10:15:43 < R2COM> OWERVR SGX Graphics Accelerator subsystem for 3D graphics acceleration to support display and gaming effects 2013-07-07T10:15:47 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T10:15:57 < R2COM> it says OS: Linux 2013-07-07T10:16:17 < dongs> yes, that one probably lunix-only. 2013-07-07T10:16:31 < R2COM> is it like, one cannot write his own program on barematal or what? 2013-07-07T10:16:51 < dongs> well, i suspect all 3d trash for example is binary only 2013-07-07T10:16:54 < dongs> as lunix bins. 2013-07-07T10:17:38 < PaulFertser> dongs: are you using any RTOS ever for your projects? 2013-07-07T10:17:49 < dongs> PaulFertser: used/use CoOS yea 2013-07-07T10:18:00 < dongs> R2COM: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ATSAMA5D35-EK/ATSAMA5D35-EK-ND/3882018?cur=USD 2013-07-07T10:18:03 < dongs> slightly cheaper 2013-07-07T10:18:06 < dongs> w/o useless LCD 2013-07-07T10:18:23 < dongs> but has HDMI out lol 2013-07-07T10:18:34 < R2COM> if someone wants serious RTOS, i guess something like this should be used: http://www.windriver.com/products/vxworks.html 2013-07-07T10:18:57 < R2COM> hm 2013-07-07T10:18:58 < R2COM> hdmi 2013-07-07T10:19:29 < R2COM> but that chip doesnt support hdmi? 2013-07-07T10:20:38 < dongs> it has RGB out from LCD controller 2013-07-07T10:20:40 < dongs> which goes into HDMI tx 2013-07-07T10:20:47 < dongs> 6.2.8 in EK guide pdf 2013-07-07T10:21:24 < dongs> Ya its connected to LCDDAT0..23 2013-07-07T10:21:28 < dongs> sounds like 24bit rgb 2013-07-07T10:21:33 < dongs> and clock/sync etc. 2013-07-07T10:21:37 < dongs> typical input to hdmi transmitter. 2013-07-07T10:22:24 < R2COM> schematics looks like from Allegro :P 2013-07-07T10:23:20 < dongs> or orcad 2013-07-07T10:23:51 < R2COM> right 2013-07-07T10:24:32 < R2COM> so that chip, from Silicomn Image 2013-07-07T10:24:39 < R2COM> is simply RGB-to-HDMI converter then 2013-07-07T10:24:42 < dongs> sure 2013-07-07T10:24:50 < dongs> thats what all HDMI transmitters are 2013-07-07T10:25:27 < R2COM> I wonder how much of proicessor power would be eaten to do those RGBs for HDMI output 2013-07-07T10:25:33 < dongs> ? 2013-07-07T10:25:39 < dongs> its memory mapped most likely 2013-07-07T10:25:40 < dongs> so zero 2013-07-07T10:26:01 < R2COM> yeah but to generate the RGB 2013-07-07T10:26:05 < dongs> ? 2013-07-07T10:26:13 < R2COM> not to transmit, but to generate image 2013-07-07T10:26:15 < dongs> you dont need to g enerate it every second 2013-07-07T10:26:23 < dongs> standard graphics shit? 2013-07-07T10:26:27 < R2COM> yeah 2013-07-07T10:26:49 < dongs> so nothing special 2013-07-07T10:27:24 < R2COM> heh zigbe lol 2013-07-07T10:28:33 < R2COM> what I dont understand is 2013-07-07T10:28:45 < R2COM> why the fuck dont they make those expansion ports with high speed connectors 2013-07-07T10:29:09 < R2COM> so this board is fucking useless for someone who for example needs to transmit data fast there for processing from his fpga board etc 2013-07-07T10:29:39 < dongs> people using lunix dont transmit fast 2013-07-07T10:29:59 < R2COM> say I do matlab stuff on PC, after acquiring data from my boards, but now I want to run stuff faster, and connect some processor to it to do the shit 2013-07-07T10:30:03 < R2COM> this board is useless for me then 2013-07-07T10:36:37 < dongs> it salready useelss cuz its gnu/turd 2013-07-07T10:40:21 < PaulFertser> dongs: i can't believe you're really that narrow-minded. And repeating the same joke over and over again is rarely funny. 2013-07-07T10:40:30 < ABLomas> haha 2013-07-07T10:40:42 < dongs> well, it would be unfunny indeed if I was joking 2013-07-07T10:40:48 < dongs> but I'm not, so it's not supposed to be funny. 2013-07-07T10:41:38 < ABLomas> PaulFertser: it's called "trolling" in todays world 2013-07-07T10:41:53 < dongs> i never trolll 2013-07-07T10:42:18 < PaulFertser> ABLomas: yes, i know, dongs loves it. But he's really a smart guy, and trolling the same people the same way again and again is silly. 2013-07-07T10:42:23 < ABLomas> . 2013-07-07T10:45:12 < dongs> donging on dongs. 2013-07-07T10:46:43 < R2COM> gnudongs 2013-07-07T10:46:45 < R2COM> dongnus 2013-07-07T10:47:28 < dongs> whats the difference for pfm/pwm and pwm only mode 2013-07-07T10:47:29 < dongs> for switcher 2013-07-07T10:47:46 < dongs> pfm is for low loads or someshit? 2013-07-07T10:48:29 < dongs> ah hm, pfm is "more noise 2013-07-07T10:50:20 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T11:07:37 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T11:09:08 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-07T11:11:25 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-07T11:14:44 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T11:23:51 < dongs> hm v oltage calculation on NCP1531 is same as 1521 2013-07-07T11:24:00 < dongs> so i dont need to recalculate my dividers. 2013-07-07T11:24:48 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-07T11:29:20 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T11:30:35 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-07T11:30:56 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T11:40:54 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T11:49:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T11:49:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-07T11:49:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T11:50:10 < coon> is there any way to detect stack overflows? 2013-07-07T11:50:22 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T11:51:14 < coon> or is there a way to extend the ram? 8kb is just tooo less 2013-07-07T12:03:09 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: my exit] 2013-07-07T12:06:54 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T12:19:19 < jpa-> coon: buy a bigger controller 2013-07-07T12:20:18 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-07T12:20:25 < jpa-> coon: but you can put some 0xDEADBEEF value at the bottom of the stack and see if it gets overwritten 2013-07-07T12:21:39 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T12:32:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T12:38:02 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-07T12:39:27 < Tectu> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--v-buoCVtDY/UcjlhAGWHnI/AAAAAAAABiQ/7BrWw_ipB4c/s1600/DSCF5099.jpg 2013-07-07T12:39:33 < Tectu> using hot glue to attach vreg to heatsink 2013-07-07T12:40:20 < zyp> I hear hot glue have great thermal conductivity 2013-07-07T12:41:08 < dongs> rapeberrypi in background. instant cred 2013-07-07T12:41:31 < Tectu> what does 'cred' mean? 2013-07-07T12:42:20 < dongs> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=street%20cred 2013-07-07T12:43:18 < jpa-> hot glue also has integrated smoke signal warning for excessive heat 2013-07-07T12:44:35 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.78.82.132] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T12:44:58 < Tectu> lol 2013-07-07T12:46:15 < dongs> raspberry pialso has a "look at me im a fucking moron" signal warning 2013-07-07T12:58:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-07T13:58:28 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.78.82.132] has quit [] 2013-07-07T14:06:13 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T14:06:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T14:07:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T14:19:08 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@114.sub-75-233-51.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T14:19:11 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T14:19:36 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T14:25:15 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@114.sub-75-233-51.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T14:25:53 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@243.sub-75-244-167.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T14:26:26 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T14:35:41 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-07T14:46:35 -!- debris` [debris@shells.ohai.su] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T14:47:44 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T14:47:59 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:00:18 < PaulFertser> dongs: raspberry "shit" is used in plenty of educational projects and it's quite possible that experience will bring more talented people to the field. 2013-07-07T15:01:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T15:02:08 < inca> PaulFertser: speaking of talent, have you heard of Quantum Leaps? 2013-07-07T15:02:28 < PaulFertser> inca: nope, what's that? 2013-07-07T15:02:54 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@243.sub-75-244-167.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-07T15:04:58 < inca> http://state-machine.com/resources/appnotes.php 2013-07-07T15:05:04 < inca> They are state-machine.com 2013-07-07T15:05:22 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T15:05:35 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:05:53 < inca> I just discovered them. Judging by their documentation, they are highly competent. I learned more in 15 minutes reading their documentation on LWIP than I have screwing around with the LWIP code for a month or so now. 2013-07-07T15:06:06 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:06:27 < inca> It appears they have some graphical UML -> MISRA C code stuff for free 2013-07-07T15:06:58 < dongs> nice 2013-07-07T15:07:01 < inca> I was debating testing it out today vs. actual work 2013-07-07T15:07:02 < dongs> http://state-machine.com/resources/AN_QL_Coding_Standard.pdf 2013-07-07T15:07:06 < dongs> this is pretty much what my code looks like 2013-07-07T15:08:31 < inca> dongs: I bet it smells nice, too. 2013-07-07T15:08:48 < inca> coding standards are good 2013-07-07T15:09:05 < dongs> the only difference I see is my functions { is on new line, like K&R 2013-07-07T15:09:15 < dongs> but { for if/while/etc is on same line. 2013-07-07T15:09:23 < dongs> everything else, spacing/indentation is same. 2013-07-07T15:09:56 < inca> that's good... I might actually be able to read your code if you got hit by a bus and I needed to finish a project... ;) 2013-07-07T15:10:33 < dongs> yeah, unlike Laurenceb code. 2013-07-07T15:10:38 < dongs> noone wants to read that. 2013-07-07T15:11:31 < inca> I found these on a Stellaris forum when someone was trying to get lwip to work, since it requires you to understand more about the domain than any library should it tends to confus integrators more often than educate them. 2013-07-07T15:13:17 < inca> PaulFertser: Let me know what you think of the state-machine.com folks when you get a chance. I feel like their level of documentation empowers integrators to develop expertise within the embedded domain. 2013-07-07T15:14:20 < dongs> ya, and using uint??_t types 2013-07-07T15:14:24 < dongs> instead of making up their own shit 2013-07-07T15:14:27 < dongs> good stuff 2013-07-07T15:15:12 < inca> dongs: I like their dual licensing. GPL2 (app code must be OSS, too) for OSS and commercial for commercial applications 2013-07-07T15:17:55 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T15:18:11 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:20:39 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-07T15:27:29 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:29:14 < Tectu> inca, I have the book as a .PDF as well, if you want 2013-07-07T15:29:27 < Tectu> inca, but it wasn't free, afaik. it's the paid full version 2013-07-07T15:30:27 < dongs> http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/archives/47-05/A-D%2047-05%20RAQ.jpg 2013-07-07T15:30:53 < inca> heh 2013-07-07T15:31:00 < Tectu> that's a tricky jump 2013-07-07T15:32:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.253.79] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:32:32 < zyp> code styles - making sure programmers have something to argue about 2013-07-07T15:34:16 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:34:51 < dongs> pfft 2013-07-07T15:35:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:36:34 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T15:36:44 < jpa-> "No right-edge in comment boxes should be used, because keeping the right-edge of the box aligned is counterproductive" wow, huge productivity gain right there! :) 2013-07-07T15:37:05 < dongs> Ya 2013-07-07T15:37:54 < zyp> comment boxes is a bunch of crap anyway IMO 2013-07-07T15:38:12 < zyp> stands out way too much 2013-07-07T15:40:41 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:41:25 < zyp> I usually use a light color for comments in the editor so they blend nicely into the whitespace when I'm glancing through the actual code 2013-07-07T15:42:02 < zyp> after all, they are meant to be a help when you need them, not a distraction when you don't 2013-07-07T15:43:43 < jpa-> i like comment boxes for dividing files into sections 2013-07-07T15:44:22 < jpa-> like in https://code.google.com/p/nanopb/source/browse/pb_decode.h 2013-07-07T15:44:41 < zyp> I don't like dividing files into sections :) 2013-07-07T15:47:45 <+Steffanx> I dont remember seeing many comments in your code at all. i could be wrong :) 2013-07-07T15:48:01 < zyp> that's also true 2013-07-07T15:48:39 <+Steffanx> in amsterdam yet? 2013-07-07T15:48:49 < zyp> yep, sitting at schiphol now 2013-07-07T15:49:58 < zyp> I decided I'm too lazy to leave the airport, so I'm just gonna waste away the time here :p 2013-07-07T15:50:59 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T15:51:14 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T15:51:40 <+Steffanx> Just say "bomb bomb. and you have a 'nice' five hours 2013-07-07T15:53:34 < inca> fwiw, this was the thread in which I have gotten the most useful information regarding LWIP in terms of actually using it as a library for IP stack. http://e2e.ti.com/support/microcontrollers/stellaris_arm/f/471/t/113984.aspx 2013-07-07T15:59:45 < emeb_mac> last time in schipol I noticed it was pretty smoky. smoking section was a couple of seats immediately adjacent to the "non-smoking" section. :P 2013-07-07T16:02:32 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-07T16:02:59 < zyp> doesn't seem to be a problem where I'm sitting now 2013-07-07T16:04:24 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@sleipnir.jaeckel.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T16:04:24 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@sleipnir.jaeckel.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-07T16:04:24 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T16:05:51 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T16:09:04 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T16:15:56 < dongs> http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/archives/46-06/staying_well_grounded.html 2013-07-07T16:16:54 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-152-150.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T16:18:58 < zyp> interesting 2013-07-07T16:19:57 < BrainDamage> excellent summary 2013-07-07T16:20:11 < dongs> http://www.japaninc.com/tt715_foreign_card_restrictions_at_ATMs 2013-07-07T16:21:11 < dongs> zyp: ^ reasons why jap ATMs close at night 2013-07-07T16:21:20 < dongs> Japan’s banks are awash in mainframes and stone-age IT. Incredibly, most ATMs in Japan are driven by actual mainframes. These monsters require nightly batch runs, which is why there are weekend and evening blackout periods on some ATM networks 2013-07-07T16:21:31 < emeb_mac> I've used that ground-slit approach before - worked pretty well. 2013-07-07T16:22:40 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T16:22:57 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T16:23:43 < zyp> dongs, haha 2013-07-07T16:24:21 < dongs> by "some" I think they mean "all" 2013-07-07T16:24:35 < zyp> I've always used the 7/11 ATMs, pretty sure they don't close at night 2013-07-07T16:39:49 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T16:39:59 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T16:53:24 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T16:53:40 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:07:33 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T17:10:02 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:12:53 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T17:20:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T17:21:11 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:24:08 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:25:41 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T17:25:57 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:27:43 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T17:28:01 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:38:07 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:40:05 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.143.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T17:44:27 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:44:33 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T17:46:49 < qyx_> meh, that nexus7 seems to be just piece of crap :S 2013-07-07T17:47:26 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.77.234.159] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:48:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-189158.eduroam.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T17:52:49 < Tectu> how comes? I thought those nexus things are the holy grale... 2013-07-07T17:53:02 < Tectu> grail* 2013-07-07T17:56:50 < qyx_> i am browsing interwebs and no usb on dock connector, cannot detect charging using dock connector and no external microphone support 2013-07-07T17:56:55 < qyx_> it is just not wired apparently 2013-07-07T17:57:09 < qyx_> despite being listed in specs 2013-07-07T17:58:11 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T17:58:27 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:05:22 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-152-150.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Going to sleep] 2013-07-07T18:12:37 < emeb> zlog 2013-07-07T18:12:52 < emeb> huh - seems that zlog has been dead since 6-29 2013-07-07T18:13:29 < zyp> it probably had enough of all the shit in here :p 2013-07-07T18:14:13 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:14:15 < emeb> :) 2013-07-07T18:15:06 < emeb> what's the other linker cmd to clean out dead code besides -Wl,--gc-sections? 2013-07-07T18:15:34 < zyp> other? 2013-07-07T18:15:50 < zyp> you mean -ffunction-sections ? 2013-07-07T18:15:55 < emeb> yeah 2013-07-07T18:16:04 < zyp> that's not for linker, that's for compiler 2013-07-07T18:16:09 < emeb> good - I'm already using both of those... 2013-07-07T18:16:22 < zyp> -fdata-sections might also be useful 2013-07-07T18:16:38 < zyp> same except for vars instead 2013-07-07T18:16:57 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T18:17:22 < emeb> -fdata-sections made the binary 20bytes larger. 2013-07-07T18:17:30 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@77.67.253.79] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:17:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.253.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T18:17:50 < emeb> but who's counting? :) 2013-07-07T18:18:12 < zyp> well, it might introduce padding between objects 2013-07-07T18:18:20 < zyp> to keep the sections aligned 2013-07-07T18:18:28 < emeb> makes sense 2013-07-07T18:19:17 < zyp> yeah, linker doesn't know what alignment requirements the sections have 2013-07-07T18:20:25 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:29:22 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T18:29:38 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:41:03 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@84.sub-75-233-40.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:41:53 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T18:45:33 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T18:47:45 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T18:59:34 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T19:01:08 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T19:01:23 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T19:10:06 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.233.10] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T19:10:08 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar_] by ChanServ 2013-07-07T19:10:08 -!- luke1 [~luke@cnh8092115140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T19:12:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.228.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-07T19:12:45 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh8092118140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-07T19:15:15 < emeb> syntax for inline assy changed w/ gcc 4.7.3? 2013-07-07T19:15:38 < emeb> when I try "asm(...)" now it complains about implicitly defined func. 2013-07-07T19:16:12 < zyp> huh? 2013-07-07T19:16:37 < zyp> ah, which standard are you compiling with? 2013-07-07T19:16:52 < zyp> if you don't have gnu extensions enabled, you have to use __asm__ 2013-07-07T19:16:56 < emeb> -std=c99 2013-07-07T19:17:06 < zyp> you might want -std=gnu99 2013-07-07T19:18:13 < zyp> «Nu instappen» 2013-07-07T19:18:17 < zyp> that's a nice term 2013-07-07T19:18:28 < emeb> that worked. 2013-07-07T19:19:20 < emeb> funny how that almost makes sense in english 2013-07-07T19:20:02 < zyp> it sounds pretty funny to my norwegian ears too 2013-07-07T19:20:12 < emeb> did a google search on it, ended up on a dutch page and it was like looking at english just spelled differently. 2013-07-07T19:20:40 < zyp> I'm reading it along the lines of «now plugging in» 2013-07-07T19:21:34 < emeb> now in-stepping is how I see it. 2013-07-07T19:21:59 < zyp> ah, in-stuffing were the word I were looking for 2013-07-07T19:22:06 < zyp> «now in-stuffing» 2013-07-07T19:22:37 < emeb> like japanese trains. that's real in-stuffing. 2013-07-07T19:23:09 < zyp> heh 2013-07-07T19:23:40 < emeb> running 2 instances of a Moog 4-pole ladder filter on an F303 @ 48kHz takes about 15% of resources @ 72MHz clock 2013-07-07T19:23:51 < emeb> not bad 2013-07-07T19:52:57 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@77.67.253.79] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-07T19:58:57 < Nutter> How does the ARM reference toolchain that has hw float support stack up against the CodeSourcery "soft-float" toolchain? 2013-07-07T20:00:18 < Nutter> or better question, are there any patches to add hw float support to CodeSourcery's toolchain? 2013-07-07T20:05:25 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T20:13:16 < HTT-Bird> Nutter: I think you just need to rebuild, not even patch 2013-07-07T20:13:25 < HTT-Bird> as GCC already has the HW FP bits in it 2013-07-07T20:16:57 < Nutter> oh, awesome - thanks! 2013-07-07T20:17:14 < Nutter> I assume that's what FULL_MULTILIBS=true will do? 2013-07-07T20:17:54 < Nutter> I guess I'll let you know if it works in a few hours :) 2013-07-07T20:34:20 <+Steffanx> It doesnt sound funny at all zyp :P 2013-07-07T20:41:42 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T20:51:06 -!- luke1 is now known as Luggi09 2013-07-07T20:59:27 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T21:06:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-07T21:08:59 < jpa-> Nutter: why not just use gcc-arm-embedded? 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Which one of the documents is right...? 2013-07-07T22:57:36 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@222.sub-75-196-47.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T22:58:29 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest60223 2013-07-07T22:58:36 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-07T22:58:54 -!- Guest60223 [~bjfree@84.sub-75-233-40.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-07T23:02:35 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T23:03:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.137.238] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T23:03:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.137.238] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-07T23:04:53 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-07T23:11:04 -!- mrcan_ [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-07T23:18:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T23:18:14 < Laurenceb_> yo 2013-07-07T23:18:17 < Laurenceb_> anyone here? 2013-07-07T23:18:23 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-07T23:18:33 < Ranewen> y ? 2013-07-07T23:18:39 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T23:18:44 < Laurenceb_> anyone know how to deshake a video? 2013-07-07T23:18:49 < Laurenceb_> im sturggling :( 2013-07-07T23:19:05 < Laurenceb_> if i pastebin the file can someone help me out pls? 2013-07-07T23:19:41 < Thorn> do you have a planar tracker? 2013-07-07T23:20:05 < Laurenceb_> a wahttt? 2013-07-07T23:20:11 < Laurenceb_> RAGE 2013-07-07T23:20:19 < Ranewen> Laurenceb, my friend "deshaked" some videos for me in aftereffects 2013-07-07T23:20:20 < Laurenceb_> its 86MB, too big 2013-07-07T23:20:28 < Laurenceb_> i dont have aftereffects 2013-07-07T23:20:36 < Laurenceb_> i have transcode, but its not working 2013-07-07T23:20:43 < Laurenceb_> all it does is corrupts the video 2013-07-07T23:20:47 < Thorn> e.g. nukex includes one, only $8070 2013-07-07T23:20:49 < Laurenceb_> *audio 2013-07-07T23:20:52 < Laurenceb_> wow nice 2013-07-07T23:20:56 < Laurenceb_> /jk 2013-07-07T23:21:14 < Laurenceb_> maybe i could code my own in octave 2013-07-07T23:21:21 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: upload to youtube, it can deshake 2013-07-07T23:21:24 < Laurenceb_> or in c would be faste rthan that 2013-07-07T23:21:25 < jpa-> then you can download it back :P 2013-07-07T23:21:26 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2013-07-07T23:21:28 < Laurenceb_> lolz 2013-07-07T23:21:36 < jpa-> and actually it deshakes pretty well 2013-07-07T23:21:54 < Laurenceb_> i tried cinelerra 2013-07-07T23:22:00 < Laurenceb_> segfaults without fail 2013-07-07T23:22:05 < Laurenceb_> every tiem 2013-07-07T23:22:28 < Laurenceb_> transcode fails to deshake and corrupts the audio 2013-07-07T23:22:53 <+Steffanx> virtualdub deshaker? 2013-07-07T23:22:57 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2013-07-07T23:23:00 * Laurenceb_ googles 2013-07-07T23:23:18 < Laurenceb_> ah yeah i tried that, it was some weird windows8 zip format 2013-07-07T23:23:24 <+Steffanx> oh :) 2013-07-07T23:23:27 < Laurenceb_> apparently it will run in wine 2013-07-07T23:23:37 < Laurenceb_> ill try and find a windowsxp build of it 2013-07-07T23:24:34 < Thorn> what about blender, iirc they added planar tracking to it 2013-07-07T23:24:59 < Thorn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEAfzwrd2Sg 2013-07-07T23:25:24 < Thorn> maybe it even has a stabilization mode 2013-07-07T23:27:47 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2013-07-07T23:28:00 < Laurenceb_> ok i found a winxp build that will run on my linux box 2013-07-07T23:28:10 < Laurenceb_> how do i deshake in virtualdub? 2013-07-07T23:28:23 <+Steffanx> isnt it some plugin? 2013-07-07T23:30:58 < Laurenceb_> oh god 2013-07-07T23:31:26 < Laurenceb_> http://www.guthspot.se/video/deshaker.htm 2013-07-07T23:31:28 < Laurenceb_> raging 2013-07-07T23:33:13 < Laurenceb_> well that was easier than expected 2013-07-07T23:33:34 < Laurenceb_> now i just have to navigate the mental gui 2013-07-07T23:33:42 < Laurenceb_> with over 9000 configurations 2013-07-07T23:36:37 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-07T23:36:53 < Laurenceb_> nice its working, thanks for the suggestion 2013-07-07T23:37:00 < Laurenceb_> this may take some time :P 2013-07-07T23:38:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.137.238] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T23:39:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-189158.eduroam.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-07T23:43:57 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-07T23:49:53 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-07T23:50:05 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-07T23:51:03 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Mon Jul 08 2013 2013-07-08T00:01:26 -!- UsualFool [~erlkoenig@p508DBA75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T00:06:17 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T00:06:33 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T00:10:51 < Laurenceb_> wow finally 2013-07-08T00:11:08 < Laurenceb_> got filesize down to 14MB 2013-07-08T00:11:31 < Laurenceb_> took MJPEG from crappy camera, converted to raw, deshake, raw to mpeg4 2013-07-08T00:11:43 < Laurenceb_> and the results are good too :P 2013-07-08T00:21:56 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T00:24:55 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-08T00:41:01 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-08T00:45:44 -!- Lionhearted [~Ranewen@93-138-210-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T00:48:53 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-210-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-08T00:52:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.137.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T00:54:55 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:03:55 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-08T01:10:14 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T01:10:30 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:14:55 < Lionhearted> hey, is anyone interested in helping me out with some clock gating ?7 2013-07-08T01:25:40 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T01:26:27 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:26:57 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:30:01 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-08T01:37:18 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-08T01:37:41 < Lionhearted> sup man 2013-07-08T01:44:02 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T01:44:18 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:46:43 < upgrdman> Lionhearted: i probably cant help much, but whats your question? 2013-07-08T01:47:30 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, im trying to enable port D on f4 discovery board.. 2013-07-08T01:48:32 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, i lost like 3 hours in the datasheet trying to write values to different adresses 2013-07-08T01:48:54 < upgrdman> Lionhearted: lemme find my notes 2013-07-08T01:49:09 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, thx.. 2013-07-08T01:49:36 < upgrdman> i dont use stdperiph lib, but this works fine: http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2012-06-28_STM32F4_Basics:_GPIOs/ 2013-07-08T01:50:09 < upgrdman> bottom of the post has code 2013-07-08T01:51:31 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, i didnt knew that i have to reset the registers first 2013-07-08T01:51:38 < upgrdman> you dont have to 2013-07-08T01:51:48 < upgrdman> but since i didnt check/set every gpio reg 2013-07-08T01:51:58 < upgrdman> i reset to ensure the reg's are in a state im familiar with 2013-07-08T01:52:58 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, so i only need this "Bit 3 GPIODEN: IO port D clock enable" ? 2013-07-08T01:53:00 < upgrdman> overall process to use a gpio: enable it clock in RCC, and set all of the gpio regs as needed (OTYPER, MODER, PUPDR, etc...) 2013-07-08T01:53:00 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@122.sub-75-233-146.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:53:40 < upgrdman> what pin do you want enabled? and how (push-pull? pull up? 50MHz? etc.) 2013-07-08T01:53:45 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest52991 2013-07-08T01:53:52 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-08T01:53:54 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, i have prepared for the final step (output declaration, speed etc. ), but i cant access/modify the registers 2013-07-08T01:54:10 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, because i think my clock is still disabled 2013-07-08T01:54:12 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:54:14 < upgrdman> RCC->AHB1ENR |= RCC_AHB1ENR_GPIODEN; // Enable GPIOD clock 2013-07-08T01:54:23 < upgrdman> that should be all you need to enable the clock 2013-07-08T01:55:08 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T01:55:15 -!- Guest52991 [~bjfree@222.sub-75-196-47.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-08T01:55:39 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:56:36 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-08T01:58:33 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T01:59:34 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-08T01:59:34 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-08T02:00:10 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-08T02:00:22 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, so RCC base adress is 0x4002 3800, for the RCC_AHB1ENR offset adress is 0x30, and to enable port D (which i need) i'd have to set bit 3 to "1", and I basically wrote "0x00100004", instead of "0x0010000" which was default.... but after this i still cant set gpio regs to output or set their speed... 2013-07-08T02:00:47 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T02:01:47 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-08T02:02:25 < upgrdman> if you want to work directly with memory addresses, see here: http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2012-06-09_First_Steps_with_the_STM32F4_in_Linux_%28Part_2%29/ 2013-07-08T02:02:28 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T02:10:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-08T02:13:40 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T02:16:37 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, Bits 2y:2y+1 MODERy[1:0]: Port x configuration bits (y = 0..15), about this 2013-07-08T02:17:23 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, 01 is for general purpose output.. 2013-07-08T02:17:30 < upgrdman> yes 2013-07-08T02:18:11 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, so why do you set 30 to 1 ?? 2013-07-08T02:18:19 < upgrdman> d15 2013-07-08T02:18:26 < upgrdman> two bits per pin 2013-07-08T02:18:33 < upgrdman> so set bit 30 2013-07-08T02:18:40 < upgrdman> and leave bit 31 clear 2013-07-08T02:18:49 < upgrdman> or clear it manually to ensure thats the case 2013-07-08T02:18:52 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, huh :) ? 2013-07-08T02:19:04 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@122.sub-75-233-146.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-08T02:19:23 < upgrdman> 01 2013-07-08T02:19:28 < upgrdman> 0 is the higher number bit 2013-07-08T02:19:31 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, but shouldn't you just 0 to 30 and 1 to 31 ? 2013-07-08T02:19:31 < upgrdman> bit 31 2013-07-08T02:19:40 < upgrdman> no 2013-07-08T02:20:03 < upgrdman> 2y:2y+1 might be backward 2013-07-08T02:20:14 < upgrdman> theres lots of typos in stm docs :) 2013-07-08T02:20:34 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, what is this MODERy[1:0]: ? 2013-07-08T02:20:35 < upgrdman> bottom line, 01 for pin 15 is bit 31 clear, bit 30 set 2013-07-08T02:21:28 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, you got any idea what MODERy[1:0]: is ? 2013-07-08T02:21:39 < upgrdman> yes 2013-07-08T02:21:48 < upgrdman> it means you have two bits to dick with 2013-07-08T02:21:57 < Lionhearted> ah ok 2013-07-08T02:21:57 < upgrdman> see page 148 of rm0090 2013-07-08T02:22:51 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@62.28.130.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-08T02:22:58 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, ehm.. ok so you don't know why the 2y:2y+1 is inversed :) that's sweet... 2013-07-08T02:23:11 < upgrdman> probably a typo 2013-07-08T02:23:33 < upgrdman> i cant go two pages through the ref man without finding typos or poor translations 2013-07-08T02:23:48 < upgrdman> so be cautious and ask questions. :) 2013-07-08T02:23:54 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, but this is like GPIO 2013-07-08T02:24:03 < upgrdman> and? 2013-07-08T02:24:04 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, not even some adc... :D 2013-07-08T02:24:24 < upgrdman> the quality of their docs is consistant 2013-07-08T02:25:35 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, either way thank you so much.... 2013-07-08T02:25:43 < upgrdman> sure 2013-07-08T02:25:47 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, i'd like to peek in your notes more often :D 2013-07-08T02:25:57 < upgrdman> i only got where i am by getting help from others in here 2013-07-08T02:26:23 < upgrdman> Lionhearted: i havnt continued the "series", but i post any notes that i polish on that web site 2013-07-08T02:26:30 < upgrdman> im working on a simple lib for the f0 2013-07-08T02:26:52 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, the real problem that i was having was that my IAR allows writing to memory, but doesn't "accept" what i write in 2013-07-08T02:26:58 < upgrdman> but its too early to share yet 2013-07-08T02:27:14 < upgrdman> weird. i use linux, so havnt playing with a mcu ide 2013-07-08T02:27:43 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, so basically i was writing the exactly the same stuff you wrote, but it seems like the IAR didnt accept it... 2013-07-08T02:27:58 < upgrdman> ok 2013-07-08T02:27:58 < Lionhearted> upgrdman, btw i was using swd, instead of jtag... 2013-07-08T02:28:06 < upgrdman> i just use swd 2013-07-08T02:28:08 < Lionhearted> not that it matters.. 2013-07-08T02:28:30 < upgrdman> cut my disco board in half :o) http://www.farrellf.com/temp/stlink_chopped_pcb.jpg 2013-07-08T02:29:28 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T02:29:40 < dongs> no raspberrypi in background 2013-07-08T02:29:40 < dongs> you fail it 2013-07-08T02:29:44 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T02:29:52 < dongs> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--v-buoCVtDY/UcjlhAGWHnI/AAAAAAAABiQ/7BrWw_ipB4c/s1600/DSCF5099.jpg this is what it should look like 2013-07-08T02:30:07 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-08T02:30:21 < upgrdman> some dildo heatsinked his pi? 2013-07-08T02:34:32 < dongs> no idea 2013-07-08T02:36:42 < upgrdman> lol https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420666_10151424841123915_1529538284_n.jpg must squint moar! 2013-07-08T02:38:23 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.77.234.159] has quit [] 2013-07-08T02:41:09 < Lionhearted> ok... im going to get some sleep, thanks again upgrdman 2013-07-08T02:41:11 -!- Lionhearted [~Ranewen@93-138-210-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Going to sleep] 2013-07-08T02:47:43 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-08T02:59:41 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T03:00:10 < R2COM> hmm for some reason PH1 drives very low amplitude signal 2013-07-08T03:00:20 < R2COM> on f405 part 2013-07-08T03:00:45 < upgrdman> http://lbmakersociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/601473_373540456028694_2121339047_n.jpg this guy's look freaks me out 2013-07-08T03:00:50 < R2COM> on f407 it gives out 300mVpp freq, approximately 8MHz, and output after oscillator on PH0 is 1.5Vpp 2013-07-08T03:01:08 < R2COM> but in my case of f405 chip, PH1 gives out <100Mvpp signal 2013-07-08T03:01:13 < R2COM> actually less 2013-07-08T03:02:07 < R2COM> as a result, on OSC_IN I get around 300mVpp oscillation (8MHz ) but pretty low, and I guess thats why my f405 part doesnt oscillate on HSE 2013-07-08T03:02:20 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T03:03:15 < R2COM> I was wondering if it might have something to do of mode in which f405 part is in? 2013-07-08T03:03:45 < R2COM> (honestly I just copied my discovery board code, and that code was written for normal mode, and there, on discovery board, oscillation on PH0 was fine) 2013-07-08T03:10:04 < dongs> upgrdman: typical 3d printer user 2013-07-08T03:10:11 < dongs> probably a terrorist in the making 2013-07-08T03:10:15 < dongs> going to 3d print his own gun soon 2013-07-08T03:10:15 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-08T03:10:34 < dongs> 3d dicking has no practical use 2013-07-08T03:10:37 < dongs> only terrorism 2013-07-08T03:20:01 < Luggi09> upgrdman: why did you get rid of a pin on the swd header on the cut off discovery programmer ? is that reset ? 2013-07-08T03:20:24 < upgrdman> i didnt get rid of it. it was never there 2013-07-08T03:20:31 < Luggi09> nice job btw, didn't know that you could do that with it still working :) 2013-07-08T03:20:37 < upgrdman> its "reserved" iirc. or something 2013-07-08T03:21:07 < Luggi09> weird, on my f4 discovery it's connected 2013-07-08T03:21:27 < upgrdman> 3v, clk, gnd, io and rst are all you need. well you dont even need 3v if the target is self-powered. 2013-07-08T03:22:07 < upgrdman> hmmm 2013-07-08T03:22:31 < upgrdman> "pin 6 SWO reserved" 2013-07-08T03:23:24 < dongs> swo is for non-newbs 2013-07-08T03:23:28 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-08T03:23:31 < upgrdman> whats it for? 2013-07-08T03:27:36 < Luggi09> good question, found that description in some manual: SWO, a serial wire output, is used to aid trace 2013-07-08T03:27:50 < Luggi09> doesn't really make me smarter tough 2013-07-08T03:38:09 < R2COM> well tahtsa kinda not healthy 2013-07-08T03:38:26 < R2COM> from stm32 OSC_OUT on the pin of crystal i get 160mVpp 2013-07-08T03:38:48 < R2COM> and on another side of crystal, which goes to OSC_IN I get 312mVpp 2013-07-08T03:39:07 < R2COM> before I was using those big metallic crystals, which appear on all boards 2013-07-08T03:39:17 < R2COM> its just this time decided to choose that ABM7 surface mount one 2013-07-08T03:39:37 < R2COM> which seems to have similar specs, with actually less load capacitance 2013-07-08T03:40:04 < R2COM> oscillation has right frequency, but amplitude is kinda low 2013-07-08T03:40:15 < R2COM> and I wonder if this is a reason it does not step in a program 2013-07-08T03:40:28 < R2COM> in other words, in debug, it doesnt step through functions which do something 2013-07-08T03:40:57 < R2COM> however, during a connect, i can read the chip 2013-07-08T03:41:15 < R2COM> hm wait 2013-07-08T03:43:54 < R2COM> I can step up to the main function 2013-07-08T03:51:28 < R2COM> by default stm32f4 (any chip) runs on Internal 8MHz? 2013-07-08T03:54:08 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-08T03:59:24 < R2COM> Im debugging now 2013-07-08T03:59:27 < R2COM> in gdb 2013-07-08T03:59:36 < R2COM> for some reason when I do "c" 2013-07-08T03:59:48 < R2COM> it then goes to some function for example, and then hangs at the "{" 2013-07-08T03:59:52 < R2COM> i.e. beginning of that function 2013-07-08T04:00:09 < R2COM> it happens after the main function which configures the PLL for HSE, I thought the real problem is crystal 2013-07-08T04:00:10 < R2COM> but now 2013-07-08T04:00:25 < R2COM> I noticed that it does the job better if I dont CONTINUE run, but just do steps "s" 2013-07-08T04:00:34 < R2COM> so with "s" Ihave more success 2013-07-08T04:00:42 < R2COM> but then it again hangs on some function 2013-07-08T04:01:10 < R2COM> so I'm not quite sure yet what exactly causes the problem 2013-07-08T04:01:30 < R2COM> here for example how it hangs: 2013-07-08T04:01:32 < R2COM> (gdb) s 2013-07-08T04:01:32 < R2COM> 25 GPIOA->MODER = 0; // clear moder register 2013-07-08T04:01:32 < R2COM> (gdb) s 2013-07-08T04:01:43 < R2COM> and now i cannot enter any command 2013-07-08T04:01:48 < R2COM> and ctrl-c doesnt help 2013-07-08T04:01:57 < R2COM> why would that happen during gdb debug? 2013-07-08T04:04:05 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-08T04:04:54 < R2COM> what are typical causes of gdb being kinda frozen like that? 2013-07-08T04:05:11 < R2COM> when I press ctrl-c, it does nothing, and after some time I again see same lines of code repeated 2013-07-08T04:05:32 < R2COM> and I cannot enter any command or letter anymore 2013-07-08T04:05:37 < R2COM> whats the reason? 2013-07-08T04:07:16 < dongs> typical causes: lunix + trash tools 2013-07-08T04:17:25 < R2COM> here is an interesting thing 2013-07-08T04:17:26 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/sRyHsMWP 2013-07-08T04:17:42 < R2COM> see I have my main function, which worked on discovery board, which basically turns on and configures HSE 2013-07-08T04:17:44 < R2COM> external crystal 2013-07-08T04:17:50 < R2COM> I decided to put some loop after it 2013-07-08T04:18:07 < R2COM> I am running it, and that loop, counting till 1000 completes 2013-07-08T04:18:19 < R2COM> which actually means.... that external HSE oscillation is OK for stm32 2013-07-08T04:18:26 < R2COM> and external crystal and PLL works 2013-07-08T04:18:38 < R2COM> but then see that function, config_gpio_all(); 2013-07-08T04:18:42 < R2COM> thats where it hangs! 2013-07-08T04:18:54 < R2COM> once it enters that function, it hangs right at the "{" 2013-07-08T04:19:05 < R2COM> now that one I dont understand why? 2013-07-08T04:20:30 < R2COM> and not only it hangs there, but breaks there too 2013-07-08T04:20:44 < R2COM> I even again tried it in eclipse, same thing 2013-07-08T04:21:22 < R2COM> right when it stucks on "{", and i press F5 to step, it shows in a window no debug context, and no disassembly 2013-07-08T04:21:39 < R2COM> in bare gdb console, it just hangs.. as I described before 2013-07-08T04:21:55 < R2COM> so...what can local gurus of powerful free tools tell about it? :) 2013-07-08T04:25:23 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-08T04:26:44 < R2COM> i made that loop after HSE/PLL configuration to count till 9000 000, and it works well too...apparently crystal seems to be working then 2013-07-08T04:27:08 < R2COM> but whats the typical reason of gdb being stuck like that at beginning of function? 2013-07-08T04:29:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T04:30:11 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@188.sub-75-196-23.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T04:31:08 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-08T05:05:30 < R2COM> shit 2013-07-08T05:05:35 < R2COM> but that doesnt make any fucking sense 2013-07-08T05:05:43 < R2COM> I even removed port configuration from function 2013-07-08T05:05:54 < R2COM> and made all simple commands follow from beginning of main function 2013-07-08T05:06:38 < R2COM> so heres my code 2013-07-08T05:06:39 < R2COM> http://pastebin.com/dZTS0mJ1 2013-07-08T05:06:53 < R2COM> as you see, just declare some loop variables 2013-07-08T05:07:15 < R2COM> then configure PLL (that function is from project which worked many times on discovery board, it configures PLL run from HSE) 2013-07-08T05:07:36 < R2COM> as you see after PLL config theres big loop, counting till 9000 000... and it counts fine 2013-07-08T05:07:38 < R2COM> then 2013-07-08T05:07:44 < R2COM> I enable the GPIOA port clock 2013-07-08T05:07:52 < R2COM> and again huge loop which counts fine, and does the job 2013-07-08T05:08:10 < R2COM> at this stage, one would say, that external Crystal works...otherwise these loops imply would not run at all 2013-07-08T05:08:23 < R2COM> now after second loop, see that GPIOA->MODER = 0; ? 2013-07-08T05:08:30 < R2COM> thats where debugging fucking hangs 2013-07-08T05:08:35 < R2COM> its just stuck and thats it! 2013-07-08T05:08:44 < R2COM> I cannot even step beyond that point 2013-07-08T05:09:16 < R2COM> what could be cause of such a failure? 2013-07-08T05:09:55 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@188.sub-75-196-23.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-08T05:10:03 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T05:10:50 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@167.sub-75-196-50.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T05:11:29 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-08T05:14:03 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-08T05:17:15 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-08T05:31:34 < R2COM> anyone had similar issues or at least has any clue what could be a reason? 2013-07-08T05:37:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T05:40:27 < upgrdman> dunno 2013-07-08T05:41:06 < upgrdman> you meantioned crystal problems earlier. have you tried config'ing the mcu to just use the HSI + PLL for SYSCLK? 2013-07-08T05:41:18 < upgrdman> or try a diff crystal 2013-07-08T05:46:24 < R2COM> well 2013-07-08T05:46:41 < R2COM> not yet, because I want to see particular problem here 2013-07-08T05:46:45 < R2COM> and because of the following fact: 2013-07-08T05:47:00 < R2COM> I have *infinite* loop which does add one and subtract one from one variable 2013-07-08T05:47:05 < R2COM> in front of this line: GPIOA->MODER = 0; // clear moder register 2013-07-08T05:47:08 < R2COM> ok? 2013-07-08T05:47:15 < R2COM> and that infiniute loop, I can step in 2013-07-08T05:47:18 < R2COM> many times 2013-07-08T05:47:22 < R2COM> I can continue 2013-07-08T05:47:23 < R2COM> stoip 2013-07-08T05:47:27 < R2COM> again step in in gdb 2013-07-08T05:47:38 < R2COM> in other workds...i can step through that infinite loop as I want 2013-07-08T05:47:54 < R2COM> which automatically tells me, that Crystal should work then...otherwise how would the program work at all right? 2013-07-08T05:47:56 < R2COM> but 2013-07-08T05:48:21 < R2COM> When I dont have that loop, (have some limited loop for example), before GPIOA->MODER = 0; // clear moder register, right at that line...debugger hangs! 2013-07-08T05:50:11 < R2COM> before I remove anything from this board, or do modifications, I want to know what potential problems are 2013-07-08T05:50:15 < R2COM> or causes... 2013-07-08T05:50:53 < R2COM> its obvious that if PLL configured with HSE, and if it can run infinite loop (as well as step in through it in gdb), it means that Crystal does the job 2013-07-08T05:51:08 < R2COM> now my question is: Why would debug session stuck at that line? 2013-07-08T05:52:22 < upgrdman> not sure, but a fucked up clock can cause weird things with digital circuits. 2013-07-08T05:59:11 -!- baird-n10 [~baird-n10@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T06:04:01 < R2COM> one question then 2013-07-08T06:04:06 < R2COM> HSI is *always* on right? 2013-07-08T06:04:58 < R2COM> I am now reading RCC->CR in gdb, and both bit 16 and bit17 are 1 2013-07-08T06:05:01 < R2COM> which meands HSE is ON 2013-07-08T06:05:05 < R2COM> and PLL is LOCKED 2013-07-08T06:05:26 < R2COM> I am not sure of any other more detailed way of determining if stm32 is happy about its extenral clock 2013-07-08T06:05:29 < R2COM> it seems to be though 2013-07-08T06:05:35 < R2COM> so external clock is now fine 2013-07-08T06:05:42 < R2COM> and it clocks it 2013-07-08T06:05:53 < R2COM> ....also because I can step through huge loops... wait long time, then do it again 2013-07-08T06:06:23 < R2COM> what I dont know is, why the fuck it hangs on this line: GPIOA->MODER = 0; // clear moder register 2013-07-08T06:12:28 < dongs> on F4 unlike on F1, resetting GPIO including pins used for SWD/JTAG will certainly kill them. 2013-07-08T06:12:53 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T06:13:02 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T06:13:24 < dongs> i.e. making SWDIO pin into Analog In 2013-07-08T06:13:33 < dongs> will most definitely trash your SWD communications :) 2013-07-08T06:13:54 < dongs> which happens to be PA12 2013-07-08T06:14:22 < dongs> R2COM: you should write GPIO init/get/set type thing 2013-07-08T06:14:26 < dongs> instead of dicking wiht registers raw. 2013-07-08T06:14:38 < dongs> one that properly masks pins 2013-07-08T06:15:02 < dongs> I wrote one for F1. 2013-07-08T06:15:07 < dongs> F4 isnt much more complicated. 2013-07-08T06:15:20 < dongs> follows same pattern as stdperiphlib gpio_Init but with less fail 2013-07-08T06:18:24 < R2COM> huh 2013-07-08T06:18:55 < R2COM> PA12 has nothing to do with it dude 2013-07-08T06:19:34 < R2COM> PA12 has nothing to do with anything SWD related 2013-07-08T06:20:51 < dongs> PA13 2013-07-08T06:20:51 < dongs> (JTMS-SWDIO) 2013-07-08T06:20:52 < dongs> I/O FT JTMS-SWDIO/ EVENTOUT 2013-07-08T06:20:57 < dongs> sorry, PA13 2013-07-08T06:21:01 < R2COM> well Im not messing with pa13 2013-07-08T06:21:06 < dongs> .... 2013-07-08T06:21:09 < R2COM> and its broken out to SWD related stuff 2013-07-08T06:21:10 < dongs> GPIOA->MODER = 0; 2013-07-08T06:21:14 < dongs> what the fuck do you think this does? 2013-07-08T06:21:15 < R2COM> mmm 2013-07-08T06:21:23 < R2COM> hold on 2013-07-08T06:28:45 < R2COM> uaaa! 2013-07-08T06:29:07 < R2COM> this solved the issue: GPIOA->MODER |= 0; // clear moder register 2013-07-08T06:29:12 < dongs> .. 2013-07-08T06:29:16 < dongs> thats cuz that doesnt do shit 2013-07-08T06:29:22 < R2COM> errr 2013-07-08T06:29:30 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-08T06:29:33 < dongs> | wit 0 is still 0. 2013-07-08T06:29:36 < dongs> does fuckall. 2013-07-08T06:29:37 < R2COM> true 2013-07-08T06:30:06 < R2COM> one thing was strange, why this didnt fuckup on discovery boards? 2013-07-08T06:30:13 < R2COM> in general 2013-07-08T06:30:18 < R2COM> what I do is, null the whole reg 2013-07-08T06:30:22 < R2COM> and then set whatever I neeed 2013-07-08T06:30:27 < R2COM> its just, that was my old template 2013-07-08T06:30:48 < R2COM> 1) null it, 2) set it the way you want it to be 2013-07-08T06:31:49 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T06:31:59 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-08T06:32:05 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T06:32:13 < R2COM> I guess, in this case 2013-07-08T06:32:24 < R2COM> the best thing to do would be, just let the PORTA in its reset state as is 2013-07-08T06:32:29 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@176.15.9.80] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T06:32:29 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@176.15.9.80] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-08T06:32:29 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T06:32:30 < R2COM> and only SET bits which you DO need to set 2013-07-08T06:32:34 < R2COM> with | 2013-07-08T06:32:45 < dongs> it did fuck up on discovery boards. 2013-07-08T06:33:07 < R2COM> |= 1; for example... so, what I want to tell is, this looks to be best thing to init ports then 2013-07-08T06:33:25 < R2COM> in order to not break up the SWD 2013-07-08T06:33:46 < dongs> are you trolling or what 2013-07-08T06:33:57 < R2COM> why 2013-07-08T06:34:11 < dongs> how you set any peripheral registers in question, in general is 2013-07-08T06:34:15 < R2COM> |= SOME HEX NUM; 2013-07-08T06:34:16 < dongs> 1) mask out the needed bits 2) set them 2013-07-08T06:34:18 < R2COM> if you want... 2013-07-08T06:34:29 < R2COM> right 2013-07-08T06:34:31 < R2COM> thats what I meant 2013-07-08T06:34:58 < dongs> read out reg, mask out just the trash needed, or to apply mode changes, write the modified value. 2013-07-08T06:35:10 < R2COM> yeah that one 2013-07-08T06:38:52 < R2COM> also, one more thing, although not related to this issue but just in case if someone wants.. those ABM7's crystals have less drive strength than the ones typically used on disco boards (metallic ones) 2013-07-08T06:39:03 < R2COM> so its better to use appr 240Ohm resistor in series. 2013-07-08T06:43:10 < R2COM> ok. all sensors are working on board. 2013-07-08T06:46:55 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T06:49:49 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-08T06:52:17 < dongs> wow 2013-07-08T06:52:21 < dongs> samsung made some 22uF 0402 caps 2013-07-08T06:52:35 < R2COM> are they on digikey? 2013-07-08T06:52:40 < dongs> no 2013-07-08T06:52:42 < dongs> wel, i duno 2013-07-08T06:52:50 < dongs> i got a physical spam mail from them 2013-07-08T06:53:22 < zyp> *yawn* 2013-07-08T06:53:39 < R2COM> zyp: I like the way gdb debugs so far 2013-07-08T06:54:00 < zyp> :) 2013-07-08T06:54:49 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/DAaPqlA.jpg 2013-07-08T06:56:17 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@167.sub-75-196-50.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-08T06:57:26 < R2COM> digikey has max 10uF 0402 samsung caps 2013-07-08T06:58:19 < R2COM> which isnt much big deal, others have it too 2013-07-08T07:02:10 < dongs> god damn fucking lunix trash is such a fucking joke 2013-07-08T07:02:22 < dongs> lunixtv trash changed API again from 3.0 to 3.5 kernels 2013-07-08T07:02:26 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T07:02:31 < dongs> and of course there's no fucking migration guide or anything like that 2013-07-08T07:02:37 < dongs> "we just change shit weekly, you figure out whats broke" 2013-07-08T07:02:39 < dongs> fucking niggers 2013-07-08T07:02:42 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T07:04:26 < englishman> dongs: open sores standards, if you don't like it, make your own 2013-07-08T07:04:35 < englishman> also, this does not seem like something that would concern you 2013-07-08T07:04:40 < dongs> yeah thats why there are 20 audio servers for lunix 2013-07-08T07:04:41 < dongs> all broken 2013-07-08T07:04:54 < dongs> or wahtever the fuck they call the shit that should be in the kernel 2013-07-08T07:04:56 < dongs> for doing audio mixing 2013-07-08T07:04:57 < dongs> between apps 2013-07-08T07:05:06 < dongs> i.e. shit windows had working since Win98SE 2013-07-08T07:05:13 < dongs> (if not earlier) 2013-07-08T07:05:16 < englishman> or earlier 2013-07-08T07:05:26 < englishman> if you knew which IRQ your sound card was on 2013-07-08T07:12:41 < R2COM> by the way 2013-07-08T07:12:47 < R2COM> that texane for Windows stuff 2013-07-08T07:12:51 < R2COM> it works, but 2013-07-08T07:12:58 < R2COM> if you want to connect to it second time 2013-07-08T07:13:09 < R2COM> you must connect to chip with ST_util from st. and flash something 2013-07-08T07:13:12 < dongs> by the way 2013-07-08T07:13:13 < R2COM> then disconnect 2013-07-08T07:13:14 < dongs> that lunix stuff 2013-07-08T07:13:17 < dongs> it works, but 2013-07-08T07:13:20 < R2COM> then run texan stuff, and it will connect 2013-07-08T07:13:25 < dongs> 2013-07-08T07:13:43 < R2COM> yeah well.. I am going to buy bmp tomorrow, I wont use texane 2013-07-08T07:13:50 < R2COM> but still use gdb ;) 2013-07-08T07:14:15 < dongs> good luck, buy something that makes sure you will never graduate from opensauce stuff into real debuggers 2013-07-08T07:14:24 < R2COM> well 2013-07-08T07:14:27 < R2COM> for real stuff 2013-07-08T07:14:39 < R2COM> what I have on my target is: crossworks 2013-07-08T07:14:45 < dongs> which doesnt support BMP 2013-07-08T07:15:00 < dongs> at whihc point your'e spending more $ on another debug dongle. 2013-07-08T07:15:02 < R2COM> if one akss money for crossworks, buying jlink not a problem 2013-07-08T07:15:17 < R2COM> so 300$ + 1500$ 2013-07-08T07:15:43 < R2COM> or, 1000$ that Raisonance + their RLINK or whatever its called... not sure if its good chouce though 2013-07-08T07:16:57 < R2COM> is that IAR stuff good? 2013-07-08T07:17:26 < dongs> no 2013-07-08T07:17:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-08T07:17:54 < R2COM> so only Keil: 5000$, next one downgrade is crossworks 1500$ then? 2013-07-08T07:18:18 < dongs> yea 2013-07-08T07:20:43 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-08T07:21:37 < englishman> it's only zeroes 2013-07-08T07:22:59 < dongs> or you canm go for GCC, free as in aids 2013-07-08T07:23:19 -!- baird-n10 [~baird-n10@ppp121-44-203-41.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-08T07:33:34 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-08T07:33:47 < R2COM> so, sensors + spi flash works 2013-07-08T07:35:31 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T07:40:23 < R2COM> bye the way it seems to me one needs HSE only for USB shit or SDIO 2013-07-08T07:40:27 < R2COM> Im not using any of that shit 2013-07-08T07:40:36 < R2COM> I could have design board without pads for HSE at all 2013-07-08T07:40:47 < R2COM> and just use internal HSI 16MHz 2013-07-08T07:40:59 < dongs> sure if you dont give a fuck about precise clocking of anything, HSI is just fine 2013-07-08T07:41:07 < dongs> since hsi willdrift around wiht temperature 2013-07-08T07:41:16 < dongs> but if you dont use anything that needs stable clock then it s fine 2013-07-08T07:41:28 < R2COM> I dont think that your clocks with proEE IRC way of selecting crystal+caps are much more precise, honestly... 2013-07-08T07:42:15 < dongs> yeah but at least they dont change over temperature 2013-07-08T07:42:40 < R2COM> well yea 2013-07-08T07:43:21 < dongs> internal shit is not a crystal, its resonator or rc whatever crap 2013-07-08T07:43:25 < dongs> so its not very accurate 2013-07-08T07:43:29 < dongs> but if you dont care, it works fine 2013-07-08T07:43:36 < dongs> i dont use it on F1 because on F1 you can only go to 64mhz with HSI 2013-07-08T07:43:43 < dongs> or 72+ with HSE 2013-07-08T07:45:18 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-08T07:45:52 < R2COM> I'm measuring my freq by the way with scope, its almost at the edge of 8MHz 2013-07-08T07:46:09 < R2COM> checked for curiosity the discovery board, its like >7.5Mhz 2013-07-08T07:47:07 < R2COM> but..that might be fine anyhow, since one uses PLL 2013-07-08T07:47:32 < dongs> well you can just use MCO 2013-07-08T07:47:49 < R2COM> yes but its better to use pll 2013-07-08T07:48:05 < dongs> nah, im talking about seeing what clock you end up with 2013-07-08T07:48:10 < dongs> you ca n have mco output sysclk/2 or whatever 2013-07-08T07:48:12 < R2COM> ah ok 2013-07-08T07:48:40 < R2COM> but for soldered board 2013-07-08T07:48:43 < R2COM> MCO is PH0 2013-07-08T07:48:45 < R2COM> its busy already 2013-07-08T07:48:57 < R2COM> pin is busy, tied to crystal 2013-07-08T07:50:45 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T07:51:02 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T07:53:04 < dongs> ... 2013-07-08T07:53:56 < dongs> you keep trolling me dude and making me open the fucking datasheet 2013-07-08T07:53:58 < dongs> MCO is PA8 2013-07-08T07:54:20 < dongs> where the fuck do you even see MCO on PH0 2013-07-08T07:57:13 < R2COM> yes true 2013-07-08T08:04:20 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263715 2013-07-08T08:04:31 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263714 2013-07-08T08:04:55 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T08:05:28 < dongs> L3GD and wahts hte other rshit 2013-07-08T08:05:34 < R2COM> LSM303 2013-07-08T08:05:44 < R2COM> and place for pressure sensor from honeywell 2013-07-08T08:08:11 < dongs> I got it. R2COM is actually working for SpaceX 2013-07-08T08:08:38 < R2COM> haha why 2013-07-08T08:09:01 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-08T08:09:20 < R2COM> by the way, that board is not ENIG 2013-07-08T08:09:25 < R2COM> I could have chosen, didnt have to. 2013-07-08T08:09:52 < dongs> one american place has a really neat finish 2013-07-08T08:09:58 < dongs> OHP or somethin liek that 2013-07-08T08:10:12 < R2COM> well... most do have neat finish 2013-07-08T08:10:14 < R2COM> if you pay 2013-07-08T08:10:30 < R2COM> but for designs like this, lead free HASL is just enough 2013-07-08T08:12:11 < R2COM> and TG180 is one option I always require 2013-07-08T08:12:20 < R2COM> but for these boards materials it was default. 2013-07-08T08:12:38 < dongs> "Ormecon® - partial chemical tin for ultra-flat pads." 2013-07-08T08:12:58 < dongs> man, I ninja'd that email from april last year 2013-07-08T08:13:06 < dongs> searched for the guy who sent it to me + "they call" 2013-07-08T08:13:07 < dongs> gmail is awesome 2013-07-08T08:15:24 < dongs> R2COM: you should try that next time 2013-07-08T08:15:29 < dongs> I heard its awesome for handsolder. 2013-07-08T08:19:31 < R2COM> ormecon finish? 2013-07-08T08:20:40 < dongs> ya 2013-07-08T08:21:37 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ubbnIyv.jpg 2013-07-08T08:21:42 < dongs> it looks like this, but that is NOT hasl 2013-07-08T08:21:52 < dongs> its more flat and not shiny 2013-07-08T08:23:01 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T08:23:34 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T08:26:33 < R2COM> nice 2013-07-08T08:42:16 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-08T09:20:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.232.243] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T09:20:29 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-08T09:23:52 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.233.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-08T09:28:27 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T09:48:20 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T09:51:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-08T10:08:31 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-08T10:27:18 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Lyrv877.png 2013-07-08T10:27:22 < dongs> did the dual switcher shitz 2013-07-08T10:27:33 < dongs> purple = vin, blue = gnd 2013-07-08T10:27:56 < dongs> followed datasheet mostly for layout. 2013-07-08T10:28:03 < dongs> FB through vias in the backk. 2013-07-08T10:29:35 < R2COM> you care about small footprints, but then you put test pin which is as big as footprint of chip 2013-07-08T10:29:54 < dongs> i kno rite 2013-07-08T10:30:19 < dongs> would be funnier if I used 0402s with that testpin 2013-07-08T10:30:59 < dongs> not s o sure about SW pin 2013-07-08T10:31:05 < dongs> datasheet doesnt have htem very thick 2013-07-08T10:31:27 < dongs> but itll probly work 2013-07-08T10:35:23 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T10:37:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-08T10:49:48 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T10:55:49 < R2COM> hmm now for some reason after sending byte to SPI1->DR 2013-07-08T10:55:57 < R2COM> I dont see it coming through the RX 2013-07-08T10:56:19 < dongs> why would you 2013-07-08T10:56:26 < dongs> also you should do a read before sending 2013-07-08T10:56:28 < dongs> just incase 2013-07-08T11:01:09 < R2COM> you mean probably send before reading? 2013-07-08T11:01:34 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T11:01:50 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T11:02:36 < dongs> no 2013-07-08T11:07:21 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-08T11:07:56 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-08T11:08:19 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T11:11:40 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-08T11:13:23 < R2COM> ok it had nothing to do with spi 2013-07-08T11:13:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-08T11:13:47 < R2COM> its just memory for some reason after WREN command doesnt show that write enable flag is on 2013-07-08T11:24:08 < R2COM> hmm little bitch worked before .. 2013-07-08T11:40:08 < R0b0t1> R2COM: Read register meaning okay to push more data into DR 2013-07-08T11:40:09 < R0b0t1> I think 2013-07-08T11:46:08 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T11:51:05 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-08T11:56:13 < R2COM> nah i know 2013-07-08T11:56:14 < R2COM> spi works 2013-07-08T11:56:27 < R2COM> its just flash memory doesnt give me back command that is write enable is 1 2013-07-08T11:56:32 < R2COM> after sending WREN to it 2013-07-08T11:56:35 < R2COM> not sure yet why 2013-07-08T11:56:49 < R2COM> it actually worked couple hours ago 2013-07-08T12:00:36 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-210-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T12:05:18 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@27.sub-75-233-49.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T12:06:00 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-08T12:06:35 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T12:11:27 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-08T12:12:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T12:19:45 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T12:21:50 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-08T12:42:46 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-08T12:51:26 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-210-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-08T13:12:16 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-210-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T13:22:46 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-08T13:27:49 < Laurenceb> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-2/ 2013-07-08T13:27:52 < Laurenceb> mad skillz 2013-07-08T13:28:25 < dongs> about fucking time 2013-07-08T13:28:31 < dongs> someone made something without a fucking tarduino on it 2013-07-08T13:28:34 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-08T13:28:44 < dongs> ... 2013-07-08T13:28:46 < Laurenceb> http://spacenear.us/tracker/ 2013-07-08T13:28:47 < dongs> its a pic24 tho 2013-07-08T13:28:48 < dongs> so never mind 2013-07-08T13:28:53 < Laurenceb> its flying atm 2013-07-08T13:29:09 < dongs> wtf is that chip antenna 2013-07-08T13:29:21 < Laurenceb> its a GPS ant 2013-07-08T13:29:34 < dongs> i guess up high you dont need a very good antenna 2013-07-08T13:29:34 < dongs> haha 2013-07-08T13:29:58 < dongs> nice rework 2013-07-08T13:30:35 < Laurenceb> 3.3grams O_o 2013-07-08T13:30:49 < dongs> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263715 put this on it instead 2013-07-08T13:31:10 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-08T13:31:15 < Laurenceb> ugliest pcb ever 2013-07-08T13:31:29 < dongs> 14:04 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263715 2013-07-08T13:31:29 < dongs> 14:04 < R2COM> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263714 2013-07-08T13:31:38 < dongs> its by that blogger 2013-07-08T13:32:02 < dongs> he blacked out company name 2013-07-08T13:32:05 < dongs> but I suspect its SpaceX 2013-07-08T13:32:07 < Laurenceb> lol battery is going flat 2013-07-08T13:32:07 < dongs> he wont admit to it 2013-07-08T13:32:16 < Laurenceb> he needs to lurn 2 power save 2013-07-08T13:32:36 < Laurenceb> Battery: 1.26 V 2013-07-08T13:33:22 < Laurenceb> someone needs to put FBI_PartyVan on the map 2013-07-08T13:35:14 < Laurenceb> does dongs have the haxor skillz? 2013-07-08T13:36:36 < Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/27/lohan_failsafe_update/ <- not sure if troll 2013-07-08T13:52:33 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.12] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T13:59:10 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-08T14:01:16 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@27.sub-75-233-49.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-08T14:08:13 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/vAcO8Ky.png redid last weeks pcb with another tuner chip 2013-07-08T14:14:49 < Laurenceb> whats it do? 2013-07-08T14:15:27 < dongs> boring shit, tv receiver 2013-07-08T14:15:56 < Laurenceb> nice 2013-07-08T14:16:06 < Laurenceb> whats the middle chip? 2013-07-08T14:16:08 < Laurenceb> realtec? 2013-07-08T14:16:12 < dongs> noes 2013-07-08T14:16:26 < dongs> realtek doesnt do japtv 2013-07-08T14:16:30 < Laurenceb> oh 2013-07-08T14:18:28 < dongs> i made another board with FC0013 on it http://i.imgur.com/8WKL8Yx.jpg but the chip sucks, docs suck. so I switched to MxL603 which has better docs/support. 2013-07-08T14:20:50 < Laurenceb> ah, we use FC0013 for balloons 2013-07-08T14:21:05 < dongs> for wat 2013-07-08T14:21:15 < Laurenceb> ground station Rx 2013-07-08T14:21:26 < dongs> telemetry shit? 2013-07-08T14:21:32 < dongs> i htought you used some off the shelf 433mhz crap 2013-07-08T14:21:57 < Laurenceb> nope 2013-07-08T14:22:02 < Laurenceb> off the shelf is crap 2013-07-08T14:22:48 <+Steffanx> is that some custom chip that you have to censor it dongs ? 2013-07-08T14:22:56 < dongs> ya 2013-07-08T14:24:38 <+Steffanx> :) 2013-07-08T14:30:52 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T14:33:02 < dongs> Laurenceb: pics of FC0013 groundstation 2013-07-08T14:33:05 < dongs> sounds like hax0r stuff 2013-07-08T14:33:41 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-08T14:34:22 < Laurenceb> you want to see picturs of my dongle do you? 2013-07-08T14:34:29 < Laurenceb> * Darkside whips out his dongle 2013-07-08T14:34:44 < dongs> haha 2013-07-08T14:35:04 < dongs> wait are you just abusing RTL trash 2013-07-08T14:35:06 < dongs> on the ground? 2013-07-08T14:35:12 < dongs> and doing demod in software? 2013-07-08T14:35:42 < Laurenceb> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/HABAMP_and_DONGLE/ 2013-07-08T14:35:43 < Laurenceb> yes 2013-07-08T14:36:03 < Laurenceb> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/HABAMP_and_DONGLE/HABAMP_and_Dongle_boxed_2.jpg 2013-07-08T14:36:20 < dongs> jesus those fucking images are like 9000megapixel 2013-07-08T14:36:49 < dongs> lolz 2013-07-08T14:36:57 < dongs> well it doesnt look much better than my layout i guess. 2013-07-08T14:37:10 < dongs> except I should probly recalculate that 75ohm line for 2L 2013-07-08T14:37:12 < dongs> like chinks did 2013-07-08T14:37:15 < dongs> theirs looks better 2013-07-08T14:37:42 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/AejTJJe.jpg 2013-07-08T14:37:48 < Laurenceb> more nutty mods 2013-07-08T14:38:05 < dongs> dun see anythin modded 2013-07-08T14:38:11 < dongs> unless y u mean USB 5V 2013-07-08T14:38:21 < Laurenceb> the extra SMA 2013-07-08T14:38:25 < dongs> oh LULZ 2013-07-08T14:38:32 < dongs> oh, thats like direct IF input 2013-07-08T14:38:36 < Laurenceb> yes 2013-07-08T14:38:37 < dongs> for < 30mhz crap 2013-07-08T14:38:49 < Laurenceb> we use it for gps 1pps 2013-07-08T14:38:58 < dongs> ?! 2013-07-08T14:39:01 < Laurenceb> for doing CDMA stuff 2013-07-08T14:39:09 < dongs> right but how do you get gps into < 30mhz 2013-07-08T14:39:14 < Laurenceb> the realtek clock is crappy 2013-07-08T14:39:24 < Laurenceb> its a gps locked carrier 2013-07-08T14:39:25 < dongs> sounds like piracy 2013-07-08T14:39:27 < Laurenceb> at 10mhz 2013-07-08T14:39:39 < Laurenceb> from the ublox timing modules 2013-07-08T14:39:41 < dongs> cause nothing legal can happen with CDMA 2013-07-08T14:39:47 < dongs> ya so? 2013-07-08T14:39:58 < dongs> you feed that into RTL? 2013-07-08T14:40:00 < Laurenceb> then you can sync the sampling 2013-07-08T14:40:02 < Laurenceb> yes 2013-07-08T14:40:12 < dongs> thought IF? 2013-07-08T14:40:15 < dongs> thorugh 2013-07-08T14:40:18 < dongs> THROUGH, nigger. 2013-07-08T14:40:19 < Laurenceb> yes 2013-07-08T14:40:20 < dongs> hm 2013-07-08T14:40:24 < dongs> how the fuck does that work? 2013-07-08T14:40:31 < Laurenceb> with maths 2013-07-08T14:40:36 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T14:40:36 < dongs> so you confiure E4000 to output 10MHz IF? 2013-07-08T14:40:41 < Laurenceb> no 2013-07-08T14:40:46 < Laurenceb> the ublox timing module 2013-07-08T14:40:52 < dongs> then how does it not just shit all over the crap coming from E4000 2013-07-08T14:40:53 < Laurenceb> then you stick it onto the sma port 2013-07-08T14:41:12 < Laurenceb> the Rf data is spread spectrum 2013-07-08T14:41:23 < Laurenceb> at least this is the plan.... 2013-07-08T14:41:53 <+Steffanx> ha 2013-07-08T14:42:22 < dongs> http://synthnl.blogspot.co.at/2011/11/virtual-diy-project-part-4.html 2013-07-08T14:43:50 < Laurenceb> lulwtf 2013-07-08T14:43:52 < kfoltman> dongs: what the fucking fuck?!!?! 2013-07-08T14:44:07 < dongs> i wouldnt mind if my PCB cad rendered shit like that 2013-07-08T14:44:10 < dongs> ^_^ 2013-07-08T14:44:10 < kfoltman> on the other hand, yeah maybe I see a point 2013-07-08T14:44:17 < Laurenceb> what kfoltman said 2013-07-08T14:44:28 < Laurenceb> - first thing he said :P 2013-07-08T14:44:28 < kfoltman> kicad's 3d view isn't THAT bad 2013-07-08T14:44:48 < dongs> uhhhhhhh 2013-07-08T14:44:51 < kfoltman> Laurenceb: well, then, few hundred euros spent on tools and components... 2013-07-08T14:44:53 < dongs> kikecad 3d view is fucking terrible 2013-07-08T14:45:38 < kfoltman> dongs: aesthetically speaking, yes, but I found it faily useful 2013-07-08T14:46:22 < dongs> Laurenceb: http://www.digikey.com/product-highlights/us/en/analog-devices-solutions-for-xilinx-fpgas/3178 seen? 2013-07-08T14:46:37 < dongs> you should stop fuckin around with ghetto dongles, when you can capture 125MHz RF band with that thing 2013-07-08T14:46:45 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T14:47:01 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T14:47:06 < dongs> ugh 2013-07-08T14:47:08 < dongs> lame link 2013-07-08T14:47:13 < dongs> you ahve to click "sdr reference board" 2013-07-08T14:47:15 < dongs> to see proper shit 2013-07-08T14:47:45 < kfoltman> dongs: I wouldn't mind the 3d models from your links being available in kicad though :) 2013-07-08T14:47:48 < kfoltman> *link 2013-07-08T14:48:11 < kfoltman> that, and the lighting and lens blur 2013-07-08T14:48:12 < dongs> www.3dcontentcentral.com 2013-07-08T14:48:20 < dongs> well 2013-07-08T14:48:21 < Laurenceb> wow nice kit 2013-07-08T14:48:25 < dongs> my shit can export VRML 2013-07-08T14:48:25 < Laurenceb> thanx for the link 2013-07-08T14:48:29 < dongs> and im sure povray or some other trash 2013-07-08T14:48:36 < dongs> can add lens flarea and fog to that 2013-07-08T14:48:47 < kfoltman> povray, meh, you want your 3d view take as much time as board fab? :/ 2013-07-08T14:48:49 < dongs> Laurenceb: it seems cheap too 2013-07-08T14:48:55 < dongs> for waht it does 2013-07-08T14:48:56 < dongs> lol. 2013-07-08T14:49:19 < dongs> 400-4000mhz 125mhz wide rxtx for less than what it costs for a bare USRP 2013-07-08T14:49:58 < dongs> and i think it runs luniex 2013-07-08T14:50:02 < dongs> on the xilinx 2013-07-08T14:50:10 < dongs> so its like nerd dream come trrue 2013-07-08T14:58:05 < dongs> hm, i guess ettus is feeling the burn -> https://www.ettus.com/product/details/UB100A-BDL Laurenceb < same shit as AD board, but more opensauce 2013-07-08T14:58:18 < dongs> but of course you dont get lunix on the FPGA 2013-07-08T14:58:26 < Laurenceb> heh 2013-07-08T14:59:00 < dongs> a lot shittier spec, of course 2013-07-08T14:59:18 < Laurenceb> wonder if it support labview 2013-07-08T14:59:57 < dongs> well, since ettus sold out to NI 2013-07-08T14:59:59 < dongs> it better. 2013-07-08T15:04:54 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 2013-07-08T15:05:21 < Tectu> how comes my 300kHz DC/DC converter fires spikes at 100kHz? 2013-07-08T15:05:34 < dongs> cuz you fail @ layout 2013-07-08T15:07:05 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-08T15:08:09 < Tectu> hmm 2013-07-08T15:08:11 < Tectu> how to debug? 2013-07-08T15:09:00 < Laurenceb> kill yourself 2013-07-08T15:10:21 < dongs> install lunix, use kikecad 2013-07-08T15:11:28 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T15:11:37 < kfoltman> Tectu: ##electronics 2013-07-08T15:11:53 < dongs> wat 2013-07-08T15:11:56 < dongs> noone tehre has a clue 2013-07-08T15:14:14 < dongs> Also relevant to 75ohm radio antenna connections.Example track widths with GND plane under track 2013-07-08T15:14:17 < dongs> 2 layer 1.6mm PCB (1.48mm FR4) = 1.29mm (75.0457ohms) 2013-07-08T15:14:19 < dongs> cool 2013-07-08T15:14:20 < dongs> didnt evne have to calculate that trash 2013-07-08T15:14:23 < dongs> google is awesome 2013-07-08T15:18:19 < Laurenceb> wut 2013-07-08T15:18:26 < Laurenceb> google calculator does impedance? 2013-07-08T15:18:44 < Tectu> kill yourself 2013-07-08T15:18:48 < Tectu> seriously? 2013-07-08T15:18:50 < Tectu> that's your suggestion? 2013-07-08T15:18:53 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T15:19:04 < Laurenceb> yes, then the world would be debugged 2013-07-08T15:27:10 < Tectu> You are a bad person. 2013-07-08T15:28:38 <+Steffanx> And you keep feeding trolls 2013-07-08T15:31:15 < Tectu> I don't, I just asked a totally sane question. 2013-07-08T15:32:41 -!- kfoltman [~kfoltman@gate.corvil.net] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2013-07-08T15:34:15 < dongs> ^ you trolled him out 2013-07-08T15:36:14 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Power_Grid_of_Japan.svg 2013-07-08T15:36:17 < dongs> more useful info 2013-07-08T15:36:55 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-08T15:37:26 < Laurenceb> lol frequency changes 2013-07-08T15:39:23 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-08T15:51:10 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T15:56:51 <+Steffanx> Laurenceb and dongs can't you both try to behave for a while? 2013-07-08T15:57:08 <+Steffanx> There is really no point in being such an ass 2013-07-08T15:57:28 <+Steffanx> It's not trolling anymore, it's just being an ass 2013-07-08T15:59:41 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T16:04:15 < Ranewen> is it legal to use st's crappy libraries/header files in my own projects/products ? 2013-07-08T16:06:22 -!- johntramp [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-08T16:06:38 -!- johntramp_ [~john@125-237-7-66.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T16:08:16 <+Steffanx> We had that discussion here a few times. I think it was OK to use it Ranewen. 2013-07-08T16:08:32 < Ranewen> Steffanx, ok thanks :) 2013-07-08T16:08:34 <+Steffanx> Except for some of the linker files, those (can) have a very restrictive license. 2013-07-08T16:08:52 <+Steffanx> Oh, and you have to use it on ST hardware or so, but that is probably not really an issue here 2013-07-08T16:09:42 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T16:09:57 < dongs> wait wat 2013-07-08T16:10:02 < dongs> when was i trolling/being an ass 2013-07-08T16:10:12 < dongs> i was just talking to Laurenceb about shitty DONGles 2013-07-08T16:11:18 <+Steffanx> After that dongs, the replies to a question from Tectu .. ? 2013-07-08T16:11:39 < iR0b0t1> dongs, afaik, you are always in a state of quasi-trolling 2013-07-08T16:11:46 < iR0b0t1> you have a reputation 2013-07-08T16:12:02 < dongs> Steffanx: o that 2013-07-08T16:12:09 < dongs> sometimes i dont evne notice 2013-07-08T16:12:17 -!- talsit 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I removed it. Should I have -O0 or is that the default? 2013-07-08T19:53:53 < emeb> that's fine 2013-07-08T19:55:55 < inca> much better... easier to debug now. Thanks, emeb. 2013-07-08T19:56:55 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-08T20:01:41 < emeb> inca: np 2013-07-08T20:13:40 < scrts_> someone here made a QAM modulator for data transmission... maybe that guy is online? :) 2013-07-08T20:14:22 < emeb> think that was qyx_ 2013-07-08T20:15:02 <+Steffanx> robint91 also did something fancy, but that wasn't QAM iirc. 2013-07-08T20:17:20 <+Steffanx> No, wasn't him. That was PSK31 2013-07-08T20:17:25 < scrts_> qyx_ -> You here? 2013-07-08T20:18:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.218.162] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T20:18:22 < scrts_> hmm, at least he has experience in doing such modulating circuits.. 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;) 2013-07-08T23:19:43 < scrts> qyx_ -> how many SMPS did You achieve? 2013-07-08T23:20:57 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T23:25:41 < iR0b0t1> Most norwegian movies? 2013-07-08T23:28:36 -!- merv^qwebirc [519cbd1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.156.189.30] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-08T23:29:12 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-08T23:31:12 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T23:52:27 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@202.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-08T23:56:15 < Laurenceb_> http://hipstercircuits.com/finally-a-working-4-3-hdmi-compatible-lcd/ 2013-07-08T23:56:16 < Laurenceb_> arg 2013-07-08T23:56:30 < Laurenceb_> they really are hipsters, with unviewable "photos" --- Day changed Tue Jul 09 2013 2013-07-09T00:03:50 < jpa-> how so "unviewable"? 2013-07-09T00:03:52 < jpa-> work fine for me 2013-07-09T00:04:49 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-84-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-09T00:24:53 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-09T00:33:20 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-84-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T00:38:57 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-09T00:44:14 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-09T00:46:52 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@104.sub-75-244-141.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-09T00:59:59 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T01:14:34 -!- Tom_itx [~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T01:15:09 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T01:16:32 -!- Tom_itx [~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-09T01:19:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T01:25:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-09T01:29:33 -!- DanteA [~X@host-118-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-09T01:41:04 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T01:48:57 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-09T01:52:56 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-84-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Going to sleep] 2013-07-09T02:00:57 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T02:10:14 -!- os-app92 [~ftw@202.122.193.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I am Franz.] 2013-07-09T02:12:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T02:12:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-09T02:12:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T02:15:13 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.12] has quit [Quit: sleep time] 2013-07-09T02:22:49 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.78.55.61] has quit [] 2013-07-09T02:26:52 < qyx_> scrts: smps? 2013-07-09T02:31:24 < dongs> sup dicks 2013-07-09T02:32:23 < dongs> < Laurenceb_> http://hipstercircuits.com/finally-a-working-4-3-hdmi-compatible-lcd/ 2013-07-09T02:32:30 < dongs> looks like they took those pics right off instagram 2013-07-09T02:43:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.232.243] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-09T02:44:20 < dongs> haha, eagle files 2013-07-09T02:44:23 < dongs> what a fucking susprise 2013-07-09T02:48:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-09T03:10:56 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T03:24:05 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-09T03:33:47 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@164.sub-75-233-227.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T03:34:28 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-09T04:02:17 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-09T04:05:28 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T04:12:07 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Quit: Life is too short] 2013-07-09T04:13:26 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T04:25:05 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T04:32:05 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T04:33:09 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-09T04:33:57 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T04:56:24 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T05:02:47 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T05:03:24 < R2COM> are there fancy ways of making function being executed in infinite loop and modifying variables through links, be able to represent those values in GDB while debugging? 2013-07-09T05:03:40 < R2COM> say i whave function in loop, its arguments are links to variables, which are changed by that function 2013-07-09T05:03:54 < R2COM> and i want to step into that infinite loop, and see those printouts in gdb 2013-07-09T05:04:03 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T05:05:46 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-09T05:06:01 < dongs> its called memory watch in a real debugger/ide 2013-07-09T05:06:05 < dongs> no idea how you do it with freetard shit 2013-07-09T05:07:02 < R2COM> i kno rite 2013-07-09T05:10:12 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T05:12:51 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-09T05:15:11 < dongs> http://www.solomon-systech.com/en/product/display-ic/mipi-master-bridge-chip/ssd2828/ 2013-07-09T05:16:59 < R2COM1> display adapter shit? 2013-07-09T05:17:01 < dongs> 4x4mm 64pin BGA sounds pretty fucking nasaty 2013-07-09T05:17:33 < R2COM1> will require tight design rules 2013-07-09T05:17:39 < R2COM1> and small vias 2013-07-09T05:17:46 < dongs> ya thinking of hooking up kindle fail HD display to VGA 2013-07-09T05:17:51 < dongs> VGA->8.9" 1920x1200 2013-07-09T05:18:16 < dongs> there's a qfn version 2013-07-09T05:18:18 < dongs> gonna ask my chinks 2013-07-09T05:19:04 < R2COM1> "request datasheet"... pfffff... as if it was some sort of 5GSPS adc... or something.. 2013-07-09T05:19:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T05:19:20 < dongs> mipi shit is all NDA 2013-07-09T05:19:22 < dongs> top sekret 2013-07-09T05:19:45 < R2COM1> top sekret never sells 2013-07-09T05:20:02 < dongs> haha 2013-07-09T05:21:09 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-09T05:24:07 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-09T05:26:53 < R2COM> so my flash mem works now correctly 2013-07-09T05:27:14 < R2COM> i configured pin as AF- NSS, but used it as general purpose 2013-07-09T05:27:24 < R2COM> and memory chip wasnt responding because CS wasnt toggled 2013-07-09T05:27:37 < R2COM> for some reason on SPI2, on disco board, that shit flied in 2013-07-09T05:27:50 < R2COM> here on stm32f405 on my board it didnt, so I just had to correct it 2013-07-09T05:28:40 < dongs> cool] 2013-07-09T05:28:52 < dongs> QFN version ofg SSD2828 is in china for around 8bucks 2013-07-09T05:28:56 < dongs> ill pickup a couple 2013-07-09T05:29:04 < dongs> 8x8QFN 2013-07-09T05:29:10 < dongs> much more manageable 2013-07-09T05:29:17 < R2COM> for sure 2013-07-09T05:29:32 < dongs> and will use some ADI VGA reciever chip 2013-07-09T05:30:03 < R2COM> why not just use hdmi for most stuff, isnt it the "hottest" standard in video nowadays? 2013-07-09T05:30:23 < dongs> the shit I need this for only outputs VGA 2013-07-09T05:30:26 < dongs> 1920x1200 max 2013-07-09T05:33:04 < dongs> http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7604/products/product.html 2013-07-09T05:33:33 < dongs> fucking BGA trash 2013-07-09T05:33:41 < dongs> and I dont need 4 HDMI inputs 2013-07-09T05:35:03 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T05:36:22 < R2COM> thats not much of a big deal bga 2013-07-09T05:36:38 < R2COM> I'm even thinking its doable with 5mil rules 2013-07-09T05:36:41 < dongs> wtf, UXGA != 1920x1200? 2013-07-09T05:36:45 < R2COM> and ~18mil dia for via 2013-07-09T05:36:47 < dongs> seems uxga is 1600x1200 2013-07-09T05:36:54 < dongs> waht the helldoes 1920x? 2013-07-09T05:36:59 < R2COM> center pins mostly are vdd/vss 2013-07-09T05:37:04 < gxti> dongs: wide formats start with W 2013-07-09T05:37:15 < dongs> gxti: yeah? and? 2013-07-09T05:37:28 < dongs> does shit supporting UXGA support WUXGA automatically? 2013-07-09T05:37:41 < gxti> no, just saying uxga is obviously not 1920x1200 2013-07-09T05:38:07 < gxti> looks like it's WUXGA 2013-07-09T05:39:57 < gxti> qxga is the next 4:3 size that's big enough to include 1920 2013-07-09T05:40:08 < dongs> thats bulshit 2013-07-09T05:59:13 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/sB8ayXU.png gonna try a different F connector this time 2013-07-09T05:59:47 < dongs> http://www.shintake.co.jp/parts/imgs/pic/06.gif 2013-07-09T06:00:19 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/NiwX9Bs.jpg they're very well made 2013-07-09T06:00:36 < upgrdman> why f? 2013-07-09T06:00:44 < dongs> thats what the pros use 2013-07-09T06:00:45 < upgrdman> wouldnt sma be a nicer match? 2013-07-09T06:00:47 < dongs> and its 75ohm 2013-07-09T06:00:48 < dongs> no 2013-07-09T06:00:52 < dongs> SMA is 50ohm trash. 2013-07-09T06:01:02 < dongs> plus SMA is fucking expensive. 2013-07-09T06:01:08 < upgrdman> o ok 2013-07-09T06:02:08 < dongs> hte only board mount F connectors on digikey are all fucking hideous 2013-07-09T06:02:11 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-09T06:02:32 < dongs> ARF1715-ND 2013-07-09T06:02:41 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/photos/Amphenol%20Photos/531-40047-3.JPG 2013-07-09T06:02:45 < dongs> heavy + huge 2013-07-09T06:02:58 < upgrdman> yes. very fugley 2013-07-09T06:02:59 < dongs> plus it needs like 100W iron to solder 2013-07-09T06:04:20 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@164.sub-75-233-227.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-09T06:05:53 < R2COM> isnt it a size of sma? 2013-07-09T06:06:11 < R2COM> its soldering pins I mean 2013-07-09T06:06:15 < R2COM> size/ratio 2013-07-09T06:09:18 < R2COM> I solder sma's sweetly with low W iron 2013-07-09T06:09:23 < R2COM> (or relatively moderate temp.) 2013-07-09T06:09:33 < R2COM> just need bigger pads for good mechanical integrity 2013-07-09T06:09:58 < dongs> that F con i linked? 2013-07-09T06:10:02 < dongs> its solid something alu/whatever 2013-07-09T06:10:04 < R2COM> similar 2013-07-09T06:10:39 < R2COM> just need big pads around 4 pins, so that theres more area covered by solder which hugs the pin 2013-07-09T06:10:59 < R2COM> so that no retarded technician can break it 2013-07-09T06:11:45 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-09T06:11:52 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T06:13:26 < dongs> ok 2013-07-09T06:13:30 < dongs> picked up 3 of those solomon chips 2013-07-09T06:13:48 < dongs> and the 1920x1200 9" panel 2013-07-09T06:13:59 < dongs> will put that in a box until i ahve free time 2013-07-09T06:16:21 < R2COM> ah those boxes.... everywhere 2013-07-09T06:18:08 < upgrdman> boxes? 2013-07-09T06:18:51 < R2COM> boxes with different shit, scheduled for assembly for later 2013-07-09T06:19:08 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-09T06:19:24 < dongs> I also have clear bags with project specific components 2013-07-09T06:19:30 < dongs> the plastic bags that digikey sends 2013-07-09T06:19:36 < dongs> got boxes and boxes of those 2013-07-09T06:19:40 < dongs> argh 2013-07-09T06:19:41 < gxti> yep 2013-07-09T06:20:06 < dongs> even when I try to design for stuff I ahve in stock i still end up having to get weird shit 2013-07-09T06:20:08 < R2COM> I like hard boxes, I use those for food 2013-07-09T06:27:00 -!- Activate_to_surv [~spheric@host-166-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T06:27:48 < Activate_to_surv> nice morning -____- 2013-07-09T06:28:02 < R2COM> why 2013-07-09T06:28:46 < Activate_to_surv> tuesday 2013-07-09T06:29:03 < upgrdman> hello Activate_to_surv 2013-07-09T06:29:13 < R2COM> Activate_to_surv: so what you going to do 2013-07-09T06:32:28 < dongs> in soviet russia, its always morning 2013-07-09T06:33:21 < Activate_to_surv> sometimes it'difficult to differ, if users are bots or they are just very polite 2013-07-09T06:34:44 < R2COM> I am a Soviet made bot 2013-07-09T06:34:47 < dongs> we're all bots here 2013-07-09T06:35:22 < Activate_to_surv> always morning, yes. and white nights 2013-07-09T06:35:40 < R2COM> white nights, so spb 2013-07-09T06:35:46 < dongs> spb? 2013-07-09T06:35:59 < Activate_to_surv> an ideal for me at last -____- 2013-07-09T06:36:08 < dongs> so what's your STM32 project 2013-07-09T06:36:16 < Activate_to_surv> *channel 2013-07-09T06:37:09 < Activate_to_surv> i'm just a beginner ) 2013-07-09T06:39:41 < Activate_to_surv> but, if i have enough time, i would like to make something stm32-based 2013-07-09T06:39:59 < dongs> i put STM32 into everything 2013-07-09T06:40:09 < dongs> even when its not needed 2013-07-09T06:40:42 < R2COM> by the way, that Atmel chip with A5 core... kinda looks dominant to stm32, with only 4$ of more pay 2013-07-09T06:40:50 < R2COM> which is not a lot 2013-07-09T06:40:59 < dongs> R2COM: uh huh, but its completely different target 2013-07-09T06:41:00 < R2COM> hell, i put that money on some single quality tantals 2013-07-09T06:41:17 < R2COM> dongs: yeah different target..sow hat? 2013-07-09T06:41:37 < R2COM> who cares whats the target is? 2013-07-09T06:41:48 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-09T06:41:52 < ds2> no good packages from Atmel 2013-07-09T06:41:58 < R2COM> what? 2013-07-09T06:42:06 < R2COM> which packages dude? 2013-07-09T06:42:14 < ds2> fine pitch BGAs 2013-07-09T06:42:15 < ds2> POPs 2013-07-09T06:42:17 < R2COM> so what? 2013-07-09T06:42:31 < ds2> so it is not interesting 2013-07-09T06:42:42 < R2COM> you can pass then 2013-07-09T06:42:59 < Activate_to_surv> i see, you like to argue ) 2013-07-09T06:43:03 < R2COM> I mean, that shit is 536MHz, with hard FPU and with all everyday peripherals 2013-07-09T06:43:04 < ds2> a nice 0.7mm BGA package with POP support on top would be nice to have... A5 inside 2013-07-09T06:43:08 < R2COM> and costs only 15$ 2013-07-09T06:43:12 < ds2> complete with an uncommited M3 2013-07-09T06:43:21 < Activate_to_surv> oh, god 2013-07-09T06:44:10 < R2COM> stm32f405 costs almost 12$ 2013-07-09T06:44:17 < R2COM> with 168MHz 2013-07-09T06:44:22 < dongs> R2COM: $4.5 in qty 2013-07-09T06:44:27 < ds2> prehaps one that comes with an integrated PMIC and takes 2.0-5V input, 1.8V I/O 2013-07-09T06:45:14 < R2COM> yeah 2013-07-09T06:45:18 < ds2> integrated USB 3.0 PHY would be nice 2013-07-09T06:45:18 < R2COM> from alibaba or whatever 2013-07-09T06:45:29 < dongs> no 2013-07-09T06:45:35 < dongs> from reputable suppliers 2013-07-09T06:45:41 < dongs> who teh fuck gets anything from alibaba 2013-07-09T06:45:44 < R2COM> I said or whatever ;) 2013-07-09T06:45:50 < gxti> gps modules lol 2013-07-09T06:46:03 < dongs> how was that 2013-07-09T06:46:08 < gxti> A+ would buy again 2013-07-09T06:46:17 < gxti> but then i kinda lost interest in making lots of these things 2013-07-09T06:46:28 < R2COM> you suck 2013-07-09T06:46:39 < gxti> i smell bad too 2013-07-09T06:49:21 < R2COM> what qty gives 4.5$ price for 405? 2013-07-09T06:57:44 < dongs> max6q isnt badly priced 2013-07-09T06:57:48 < dongs> gxti: how much was neo6-001? 2013-07-09T06:57:59 < dongs> thats what you got right? 2013-07-09T06:58:02 < dongs> or did you go with lea 2013-07-09T06:58:03 < dongs> i forgot 2013-07-09T06:58:56 < gxti> $9.60 @10, for neo6 2013-07-09T06:59:20 < gxti> and they were the -001 2013-07-09T06:59:35 < dongs> yeah, my supplier wants 8 for them, so i guess not bad 2013-07-09T06:59:35 < dongs> hm 2013-07-09T07:00:01 < dongs> yeah 001 2013-07-09T07:06:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-09T07:22:34 < R2COM> gym time 2013-07-09T07:25:59 < Activate_to_surv> shower time 2013-07-09T07:26:20 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T07:28:02 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T07:30:12 < dongs> blog time 2013-07-09T07:50:24 < Activate_to_surv> R2COM, have you gym at work or work at gym? 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2013-07-09T09:17:05 < R2COM> nothing, what could happen to solid metallic bars 2013-07-09T09:17:35 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-84-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T09:17:43 < moarmoar> http://s.pikabu.ru/post_img/2013/06/25/7/1372151650_465411491.jpeg 2013-07-09T09:18:28 < moarmoar> you look impressive 2013-07-09T09:18:32 < dongs> ahaha 2013-07-09T09:19:13 < R2COM> I used to do some self made shit for things like that when I was a kid 2013-07-09T09:20:25 < moarmoar> stm32-based, ofc 2013-07-09T09:20:44 < moarmoar> of who put them anywhere, not you? 2013-07-09T09:21:24 < R2COM> try to construct your sentence again 2013-07-09T09:21:55 < moarmoar> *or who ) 2013-07-09T09:23:10 < moarmoar> you should say "try to construct your sentence in your native language at least" 2013-07-09T09:23:10 < moarmoar> ) 2013-07-09T09:25:50 < R2COM> whats your native language, german? 2013-07-09T09:26:46 < dongs> only russkies use ) online for smiles 2013-07-09T09:26:50 < dongs> )))))))))))))) 2013-07-09T09:27:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T09:28:30 < moarmoar> ) 2013-07-09T09:28:45 < R2COM> :] 2013-07-09T09:44:21 -!- moarmoar_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T09:47:27 -!- moarmoar [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-09T10:03:33 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-234-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-09T10:07:04 -!- DanteA [~X@host-182-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T10:20:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-09T10:20:53 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T10:21:41 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T10:38:26 < coon> omg 2013-07-09T10:38:31 < coon> finally my project works 2013-07-09T10:38:48 < coon> weird things where happen and i didn't find the bug in the source 2013-07-09T10:38:59 < coon> after increasing the stack size it works now 2013-07-09T10:39:47 < coon> and i was searching for the bug in the code like a week or so lol 2013-07-09T10:49:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T10:50:46 -!- DanteA [~X@host-182-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-09T10:53:22 -!- DanteA [~X@host-38-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T11:07:37 < jpa-> dongs: arduino is now in your printer, too! http://paulfurley.com/arduino-isnt-just-for-hackers/ 2013-07-09T11:08:00 < dongs> old 2013-07-09T11:08:06 < jpa-> :( 2013-07-09T11:08:07 < dongs> that fucking guy is a moron 2013-07-09T11:09:24 < jpa-> that's what i wanted to hear :) 2013-07-09T11:09:41 < jpa-> it's always crazy looking when people make custom pcb's and plug them into arduino 2013-07-09T11:09:53 < jpa-> ... this guy plugs 5 arduinos into his custom pcb :D 2013-07-09T11:10:04 < dongs> whats dumber is he could have done all that shit with a single F103RC or VC 2013-07-09T11:10:31 < dongs> I mean his ecuses are like 2013-07-09T11:10:35 < dongs> "the language is simple" 2013-07-09T11:10:38 < dongs> (what, so you cant handle proper C?) 2013-07-09T11:10:44 < dongs> "the supply is always there" 2013-07-09T11:10:52 < dongs> yeah, so is supply of AVRs??? 2013-07-09T11:11:07 < dongs> he's already MAKING a custom PCB (a giant one at that, to fit all that arduino trash on it 2013-07-09T11:11:12 < jpa-> actually historically supply of AVRs has been very bad sometimes 2013-07-09T11:11:22 < dongs> yeah, depends which game console is hacked today 2013-07-09T11:11:38 < dongs> I remmeber wehn ps3 hax came out, entire supply of cheap AVRs was wiped out 2013-07-09T11:12:00 < jpa-> though maybe he assembles those boards manually 2013-07-09T11:12:07 < jpa-> in that case, using the arduino may save some time 2013-07-09T11:12:35 < dongs> Obsolescence – I believe that the Arduino shield “standard” will outlive the footprint/pinout of the ATMega328. Suppose the ATMega328 became available only as surface mount 3 years from now. I feel confident that Arduino (or the community) would create an Arduino-compatible board to accommodate the new chip. Given the vast number of shields available today, I think it’s very unlikely that Arduino would change the shield format without a ver 2013-07-09T11:12:42 < dongs> ???????????????????????????????????????? 2013-07-09T11:12:44 < dongs> what the actual fuck 2013-07-09T11:12:46 < jpa-> yeah, just found that 2013-07-09T11:12:51 < jpa-> actually, it may be true 2013-07-09T11:13:11 < jpa-> if he really really doesn't want to redesign the PCB, it makes sense 2013-07-09T11:14:43 < dongs> For any of your readers interested in IR protocols – we have just launched a Crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo for AnalysIR – IR Decoder & Analyzer (Arduino & Raspberry Pi). 2013-07-09T11:14:46 < dongs> haha 2013-07-09T11:14:52 < dongs> YES decode IR signals on rapeberrypi 2013-07-09T11:15:17 < dongs> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/analysir-ir-analyzer-decoder-with-arduino-raspberry-pi-and-mcu 2013-07-09T11:15:51 < jpa-> why not just add a $5 IR receiver that plugs into USB port? 2013-07-09T11:16:05 < dongs> that part isnt included. 2013-07-09T11:17:18 < dongs> A copy of the latest version of AnalysIR via internet download & Licence Key 2013-07-09T11:17:20 < dongs> license key??? 2013-07-09T11:17:51 < jpa-> sure; if it doesn't work out of the box, the license key makes sure it does not work 2013-07-09T11:35:56 -!- Guest26760 [~MlGEXtMQT@83.136.246.214] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T11:36:29 -!- Guest26760 is now known as Powler 2013-07-09T11:38:52 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T11:39:03 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-84-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Going to sleep] 2013-07-09T11:39:10 -!- Powler [~MlGEXtMQT@83.136.246.214] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-09T11:41:17 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@174.sub-75-233-142.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T11:41:53 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-09T11:44:58 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.31] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T11:45:08 -!- Powler [5388f6d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.246.214] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T11:54:04 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T12:06:48 -!- qyx__ [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:07:18 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-09T12:07:30 -!- rmob [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:07:37 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:10:35 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/zT0qpjX.gif retweet 2013-07-09T12:12:08 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: scrts, gxti, mervaka, TeknoJuce, ABLomas, TheSeven, ntfreak_, BJfreeman, claude, jaeckel, (+17 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2013-07-09T12:13:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Simon--, rigid, BJfreeman, TeknoJuce, CoolBear, PaulFertser, Sync_, claude, Posterdati 2013-07-09T12:13:51 < moarmoar_> tits-powered 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.31] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- mervaka [~mervaka@mervaka.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- gxti [~gxti@ada.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@drupal.org/user/72475/view] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- Blok [~sa@unaffiliated/blok] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:15:39 -!- karlp [~karl@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:18:43 -!- ABLomas [~abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:22:09 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:25:58 -!- karlp [~karl@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-09T12:27:56 -!- karlp [~karl@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T12:48:31 < scrts> qyx__ -> samples per second :) 2013-07-09T12:49:26 < trepidaciousMBR> Best bug ever... having some code in a function that never runs, causes a statically initialised static variable to have a different value, even if it is printed as the first line in my main function. 2013-07-09T12:50:01 < trepidaciousMBR> And the value isn't a value that is ever set in the function that never runs. It changes when I recompile, but is completely consistent if I don't 2013-07-09T12:50:26 < trepidaciousMBR> I don't see how it can be me overwriting the variable, since I print it as first line in my main 2013-07-09T13:05:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-09T13:07:31 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-106-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T13:37:23 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-09T13:42:50 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T13:44:26 -!- mrcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T13:46:21 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-09T13:46:22 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ is now known as trepidaciousMBR 2013-07-09T13:48:00 -!- qyx__ is now known as qyx_ 2013-07-09T13:48:58 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T13:55:23 < jpa-> trepidaciousMBR: maybe your crt0 is misbehaving? 2013-07-09T13:55:48 < jpa-> i would break after the __Init_Data (or whatever) 2013-07-09T13:55:49 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@174.sub-75-233-142.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-09T13:57:16 < dongs> attn Laurenceb http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d6f_1373329121 2013-07-09T13:58:01 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: Thanls, I'll have a look at that 2013-07-09T14:05:09 -!- DanteA [~X@host-38-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-09T14:10:51 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: It's ChibiOS, so just the normal crt0 2013-07-09T14:13:08 < jpa-> ok, bug is probably not in chibios crt0.. can you check the value that goes in flash? (system map helps to figure out the address to look up in objdump) 2013-07-09T14:14:12 < jpa-> does the function that never runs have some static variables? those could change the RAM layout, bringing some linker script issue into sight? 2013-07-09T14:29:38 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-09T14:33:12 < scrts> qyx_ -> still here? :) 2013-07-09T14:37:59 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T14:38:17 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: Good idea - I'll check the map 2013-07-09T14:38:45 < trepidaciousMBR> The function doesn't have static variables though, it's just a chMtxLock/unlock around setting the variable 2013-07-09T14:40:27 < dongs> found R2COM https://youtube.com/watch?v=-nI-RMQps4M 2013-07-09T14:44:09 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: Found the variable, it's in CCM, not sure how to check for initialisation of that variable? 2013-07-09T14:44:32 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T14:47:39 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-09T14:48:41 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T14:50:03 < trepidaciousMBR> obj-dump is a bit of a mess 2013-07-09T14:50:31 < dongs> no, really? 2013-07-09T14:52:13 < trepidaciousMBR> :) 2013-07-09T14:52:34 < jpa-> trepidaciousMBR: you are putting static variables in CCM? all of them or just some? 2013-07-09T14:52:50 < jpa-> custom linker script? 2013-07-09T14:52:52 < trepidaciousMBR> All of them for that file I think 2013-07-09T14:52:53 < trepidaciousMBR> yup 2013-07-09T14:54:05 < jpa-> but chibios crt0 supports only one .data section 2013-07-09T14:54:13 < trepidaciousMBR> Ah 2013-07-09T14:55:22 < dongs> chibios? more like shittyos 2013-07-09T14:55:24 < trepidaciousMBR> So does that mean that none of the static initialization in that file will work? 2013-07-09T14:55:31 < dongs> most likely. 2013-07-09T14:55:34 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-106-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-09T14:55:39 < jpa-> trepidaciousMBR: probably 2013-07-09T14:55:54 < jpa-> you can customize the crt0 a bit if you want to do stuff that way 2013-07-09T14:55:59 < trepidaciousMBR> Doh. It seems like at least some of it is working though, I have some string literals that I think must be getting through 2013-07-09T14:56:06 < jpa-> but i think sooner than later you are going to run into DMA issues with CCM 2013-07-09T14:56:22 < trepidaciousMBR> That's ok, I've been very careful to avoid DMA to/from anything in CCM 2013-07-09T14:56:53 < jpa-> why not have some clear separation like stacks in CCM and everything else in normal ram? 2013-07-09T14:57:29 < trepidaciousMBR> I started from just having large buffers I knew I wouldn't DMA in CCM, but I moved some entire threads there 2013-07-09T14:57:44 < trepidaciousMBR> I probably don't have any DMA to/from stack variables, but I'm not sure 2013-07-09T14:58:40 < trepidaciousMBR> I can certainly try moving that file out of CCM though, to see if it fixes the issue, then I can look again at where I put stuff to make sure I only use CCM for variables that don't need static initialisation 2013-07-09T15:00:23 < dongs> .. cant you just initialize static stuff in your constructor or so 2013-07-09T15:00:33 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T15:00:55 < trepidaciousMBR> I can use explicit initialisation, there's a risk I'd just forget to do it, but yup :) 2013-07-09T15:01:26 < trepidaciousMBR> I'll have to review all my code in CCM and check that it doesn't rely on static initialisation, and everyone who changes it in future will have to know there's a secret trap waiting ;) 2013-07-09T15:01:56 < trepidaciousMBR> If I reduce the amount of random stuff in CCM by getting rid of the wildcards in the linker script, I can make it less dangerous :) 2013-07-09T15:02:54 < trepidaciousMBR> Thanks though jpa, it was driving me mad trying to work out how that could happen, nice to know it's my fault :) 2013-07-09T15:06:31 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-09T15:12:08 < jpa-> trepidaciousMBR: you could also just fix the crt0 if you really want to divide variables between CCM and normal RAM 2013-07-09T15:12:42 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: That sounds like the best way of doing things, I just don't know how to do it ;) 2013-07-09T15:13:54 < jpa-> :P 2013-07-09T15:14:31 < trepidaciousMBR> Yup, removing that file from CCM with no other changes definitely fixes the issue :) 2013-07-09T15:15:10 < trepidaciousMBR> I've added some big warnings to the ld file to say that static initialisers won't work, and I'll do a more selective job of moving things to CCM, just big buffers that don't need initialisation. 2013-07-09T15:15:22 < trepidaciousMBR> Maybe later I'll learn about crt0 so I can fix it :) 2013-07-09T15:15:39 < jpa-> well yeah, doing it just for big buffers sounds ok 2013-07-09T15:15:49 < jpa-> no point introducing bugs for some 4 byte savings 2013-07-09T15:16:53 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.231] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T15:18:23 < Thorn> so ld still can't pack sections into multiple memory areas? 2013-07-09T15:19:01 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: Exactly, and I can still find enough to fill CCM I think 2013-07-09T15:19:52 < jpa-> Thorn: i think ld has been able to do "simple packing" for ages (not the knapsack problem, though) 2013-07-09T15:20:07 < jpa-> Thorn: but in this case, the crt0 trepidaciousMBR is using does not support discontinuous sections 2013-07-09T15:20:42 < Thorn> I've never seen that used in any llinker script example I've come across 2013-07-09T15:20:54 < Thorn> startup code you can't change = AIDS 2013-07-09T15:21:20 < jpa-> can change, can't bother to learn how to change :P 2013-07-09T15:27:50 < Tectu> wtf? there's a DPAK, DPAK-3 and TO-252-3 (DPAK) 2013-07-09T15:28:05 < Tectu> how can one see through this mess? 2013-07-09T15:28:27 < Thorn> what about d2pak 2013-07-09T15:29:30 < Tectu> you mean D²PAK? 2013-07-09T15:30:34 < Tectu> actuall I have D²PAK here, but I seem to want DPAK 2013-07-09T15:30:36 < Tectu> or DPAK-3 ? 2013-07-09T15:57:36 -!- mrcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-09T15:57:56 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@78.173.65.38] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T15:57:57 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@78.173.65.38] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-09T15:57:57 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:00:36 < dongs> jewpak 2013-07-09T16:02:33 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:04:47 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:21:31 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:22:26 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-09T16:22:26 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:22:26 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-09T16:22:26 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:30:51 < Laurenceb> attn dongs: http://paulfurley.com/arduino-isnt-just-for-hackers/ 2013-07-09T16:34:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:40:02 < qyx_> scrts: i didn't try that on stm32, just x86 and output was directly fed to gnuradio 2013-07-09T16:40:13 < scrts> oh... 2013-07-09T16:40:16 < scrts> ok :) 2013-07-09T16:40:22 < qyx_> and only 96ksps 2013-07-09T16:40:25 < scrts> someone did modulation stuff on STM32 here 2013-07-09T16:40:49 < qyx_> i plan to use 192ksps audio adc/dac on stm32 for that 2013-07-09T16:41:25 < jpa-> Laurenceb: ages old by this point 2013-07-09T16:44:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-09T16:48:24 < scrts> qyx_ -> well.. I wonder if I could achieve 2MSPS of QAM16 2013-07-09T16:48:30 < scrts> on STM32F4 2013-07-09T16:48:58 < Laurenceb> "One arduino per blinking led, just like in his master’s thesis" 2013-07-09T16:49:00 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-09T16:54:35 -!- arnon [~arnon@bzq-84-109-214-125.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T16:54:37 < qyx_> scrts: probably yes, i was directly mixing i/q data onto 24kHz carrier, computational overhead is very low in this case when sampling freq is carrier*2^n 2013-07-09T16:54:44 < qyx_> it can be done with lookup tables 2013-07-09T16:54:57 < dongs> Laurenceb: so fucking old + trash 2013-07-09T16:55:14 < qyx_> most of the computation is required for rc/rrc filter 2013-07-09T16:56:00 < scrts> yeah, thought so... 2013-07-09T16:56:18 < scrts> anyway, I wonder if I will be able to do 8MHz bandwidth 2013-07-09T16:58:40 < qyx_> 8MHz on 2msps? 2013-07-09T16:58:55 < qyx_> did i get something wrong? 2013-07-09T16:59:34 < dongs> haha 2013-07-09T16:59:39 < Tectu> I am searching for some 79xx in a TO-252 / DPAK-3. I can only find D²PAK. There are 78xx in TO-252 / DPAK-3 but I don't find any 79xx 2013-07-09T16:59:41 < Tectu> any idea? 2013-07-09T16:59:54 < dongs> 79xx what 2013-07-09T17:00:07 < Tectu> the voltage regulators 2013-07-09T17:00:10 < Tectu> 7905, 7912 2013-07-09T17:00:28 < qyx_> dpak-3? 2013-07-09T17:00:38 < Tectu> 3 terminals 2013-07-09T17:00:43 < Tectu> I accidently bought D²PAK 2013-07-09T17:00:50 < Tectu> which is way bigger 2013-07-09T17:02:40 < qyx_> what about MC79M05BDTG 2013-07-09T17:03:18 < Tectu> how did you find that 2013-07-09T17:03:25 < Tectu> I searched for weeks (kidding) 2013-07-09T17:04:08 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-227-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T17:04:25 < qyx_> don't really know, it appeared somehow 2013-07-09T17:04:28 < dongs> http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/A20/a20_pad_std_v1_1.pdf haha LCD MIPI schematic page 2013-07-09T17:04:29 < dongs> nice 2013-07-09T17:05:27 < Tectu> qyx_, I remember... there's no MC79M12BDTG 2013-07-09T17:05:40 < Tectu> at least not at farnell 2013-07-09T17:05:55 < qyx_> hm, thats true 2013-07-09T17:18:00 < dongs> no wonder that chip was easy to get from china. 2013-07-09T17:18:07 < dongs> if allwhiner uses it in theri reference board. 2013-07-09T17:19:14 < Laurenceb> allweiner 2013-07-09T17:20:47 < iR0b0t1> Laurenceb: Well, lots of masters thesis seem to use arduino 2013-07-09T17:20:49 < iR0b0t1> :< 2013-07-09T17:21:03 < Laurenceb> well mine did use an avr :-s 2013-07-09T17:22:05 < iR0b0t1> did you use it on an Arduino board with the Arduino libraries? 2013-07-09T17:22:08 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-09T17:22:10 < Laurenceb> http://ukhas.org.uk/_media/projects:report_v4.pdf 2013-07-09T17:22:12 < Laurenceb> nope 2013-07-09T17:22:18 < iR0b0t1> you will not die today, then 2013-07-09T17:22:19 < iR0b0t1> :3 2013-07-09T17:22:58 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T17:24:02 < Laurenceb> board on page 14 :P 2013-07-09T17:24:32 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-227-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-09T17:24:33 < iR0b0t1> How funny 2013-07-09T17:24:54 < Laurenceb> stripboard skillz XD 2013-07-09T17:24:58 < iR0b0t1> I recently did programming for aerosol sampler 2013-07-09T17:25:06 < Laurenceb> really? 2013-07-09T17:25:09 < iR0b0t1> Yes 2013-07-09T17:25:09 < Laurenceb> what sort? 2013-07-09T17:25:18 < iR0b0t1> Vortex 2013-07-09T17:25:22 < Laurenceb> ah 2013-07-09T17:25:30 < Laurenceb> yeah i'm no expert in this field :P 2013-07-09T17:25:32 < iR0b0t1> draws air into glass thing with slits in the side 2013-07-09T17:25:36 < Laurenceb> yeah 2013-07-09T17:26:25 < iR0b0t1> and actually the guy right next to me is working on an electrostatic version ... 2013-07-09T17:26:26 < iR0b0t1> ... 2013-07-09T17:26:34 < Laurenceb> hah 2013-07-09T17:26:56 < Laurenceb> you might find my write up useful then XD 2013-07-09T17:27:11 < Laurenceb> you a student? 2013-07-09T17:27:18 < iR0b0t1> yeah 2013-07-09T17:27:25 < iR0b0t1> I am at my internship though 2013-07-09T17:29:30 < Laurenceb> whereabouts? 2013-07-09T17:31:09 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Quit: Life is too short] 2013-07-09T17:31:10 < iR0b0t1> KS 2013-07-09T17:32:22 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-234-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T17:32:24 < Laurenceb> huh? 2013-07-09T17:32:28 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T17:32:43 < iR0b0t1> Kansas, US 2013-07-09T17:32:49 < dongs> 'murica you faggot 2013-07-09T17:32:55 < iR0b0t1> ^ 2013-07-09T17:34:17 < Laurenceb> loldongs 2013-07-09T17:34:29 * Laurenceb is working in Vermont atm 2013-07-09T17:34:40 < Laurenceb> but back to ukland soon 2013-07-09T17:35:26 < Laurenceb> that sampler was done here: http://www.atm.ox.ac.uk/group/eodg/publications_reports.html 2013-07-09T17:36:01 <+Steffanx> gn dongs 2013-07-09T17:36:06 < iR0b0t1> Laurence Blaxter, Aerosol Sampling 2013-07-09T17:36:18 < Laurenceb> thats me 2013-07-09T17:36:22 < Laurenceb> also with this guy 2013-07-09T17:36:24 < Laurenceb> http://www.atm.ox.ac.uk/group/eodg/mphys_reports/2009_Jones.pdf 2013-07-09T17:36:57 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-234-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-09T17:37:10 < Laurenceb> note use of latex 2013-07-09T17:37:47 < Laurenceb> everyone runs solaris in that place XD 2013-07-09T17:38:43 < iR0b0t1> ha 2013-07-09T17:38:50 < Laurenceb> this is particularly epic http://www.atm.ox.ac.uk/group/eodg/mphys_reports/2007_Arakawa.pdf 2013-07-09T17:39:01 < Laurenceb> very useful for covert military ops 2013-07-09T17:39:17 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-09T17:42:21 < Laurenceb> aiui they developed it to the point that it could generate ship path datasets from publicly available sat data 2013-07-09T17:42:56 < Laurenceb> so you could find where bin laden was dumped for example 2013-07-09T17:43:44 < R0b0t1> :o 2013-07-09T17:43:59 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-220-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T17:44:43 -!- arnon [~arnon@bzq-84-109-214-125.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: irc2go] 2013-07-09T17:44:47 < Laurenceb> something interesting that i found with the sampler: 2013-07-09T17:45:04 < Laurenceb> the aerosol deposit is normally an insulator 2013-07-09T17:45:24 < Laurenceb> so it builds up a static charge on the surface, and stops the sampler working 2013-07-09T17:45:55 < Laurenceb> usually everything runs fine at approx the same efficiency for a while, then there is a quite rapid turn off transient 2013-07-09T17:46:16 < Laurenceb> but i did have closed loop voltage control, so that may have effected it 2013-07-09T18:00:13 < iR0b0t1> yeah 2013-07-09T18:00:40 < iR0b0t1> well, we noticed the drop off in collection 2013-07-09T18:02:30 -!- arnon [~arnon@bzq-84-109-214-125.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T18:10:47 -!- 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no pullup/down on reset? 2013-07-09T18:29:41 < jpa-> trepidaciousMBR: almost all, but yeah 2013-07-09T18:30:01 < jpa-> swd/jtag/xtal pins are an exception (as listed in the "default function after reset" column) 2013-07-09T18:30:37 < jpa-> can't remember if boot1 has internal pulldown or not 2013-07-09T18:30:51 < zyp> it doesn't 2013-07-09T18:31:14 < zyp> if it had, I wouldn't have needed to tie it low on my boards, like I tend to 2013-07-09T18:31:38 <+Steffanx> 안녕하세요 2013-07-09T18:32:19 < jpa-> IMO it makes much more sense that they have BOOT1 as a register bit in newer versions of stm32 2013-07-09T18:32:37 < zyp> oh, wait, boot1 2013-07-09T18:32:40 < zyp> I was thinking boot0 2013-07-09T18:32:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-09T18:33:00 < zyp> but, yeah, I think I tie boot1 low aswell 2013-07-09T18:33:20 < jpa-> only matters if you use the bootloader 2013-07-09T18:36:02 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: Thanks, it's just a normal GPIO 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##stm32 2013-07-09T19:22:20 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-84-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T19:25:35 < iR0b0t1> What is the difference between group conversions and injected group conversions? 2013-07-09T19:25:39 < iR0b0t1> For ADC 2013-07-09T19:26:41 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-229-8.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T19:27:25 < iR0b0t1> I guess it has to do with injected (or non) channels 2013-07-09T19:27:36 < iR0b0t1> what is the difference between an injected channel then? 2013-07-09T19:27:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-09T19:34:34 < iR0b0t1> ah, will interrupt current conversion on trigger 2013-07-09T19:39:15 <+Steffanx> iR0b0t1 read an3116 ? 2013-07-09T19:39:50 <+Steffanx> http://www.st.com/web/en/resource/technical/document/application_note/CD00258017.pdf <= that one 2013-07-09T19:41:50 < iR0b0t1> alright 2013-07-09T19:43:01 -!- DanteA [~X@host-166-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit 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it was reuploaded to various faggot image sharing sites 2013-07-09T20:00:25 < dongs> that recompress it 2013-07-09T20:00:44 < dongs> k really gone 2013-07-09T20:04:44 < trepidaciousMBR> jpa-: Yup, we came to that conclusion - we're going to pull CE# and ZZ# high, which should keep it in standby until the MCU comes back, nice for passing data from a user application to a bootloader. 2013-07-09T20:06:02 < trepidaciousMBR> iR0b0t1: One thing that was relevant to me about injected conversions is that the results go to separate registers, and there are (I think) 4 of them, so you can trigger a series of up to 4 conversions on the same or different channels, then get them all later 2013-07-09T20:06:25 < trepidaciousMBR> iR0b0t1: It was handy because I couldn't use DMA, I think someone in this channel recommended it :) 2013-07-09T20:10:09 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-09T20:30:24 -!- os-app92 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hexadecimal notation (which itself is rather impractical) 2013-07-10T02:43:21 < coon> ah, i just copied it from another source 2013-07-10T02:44:42 -!- Sync_ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-10T02:44:49 -!- Sync_ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T02:45:49 < coon> yep works. thanks. for some reason the microsoft visual c++ compiler has no problem with that 2013-07-10T02:46:43 < mtbg> it's the c library what makes the difference 2013-07-10T03:14:34 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@12.sub-75-196-14.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-10T03:20:30 -!- a_morale [~smuxi@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-10T03:28:24 < gxti> psh, floating point hex is perfectly valid 2013-07-10T03:31:26 < dongs> haha 2013-07-10T03:31:28 < dongs> what the fuck 2013-07-10T03:36:56 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-10T04:02:41 -!- Vutral 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apparently STLINK/V2 supports it as of version 3.0 of the STLink software 2013-07-10T05:23:02 < dongs> is taht recent? 2013-07-10T05:23:09 < inca> jan 11th of this year 2013-07-10T05:23:09 < dongs> (not that I realyl care, stlink is really slow 2013-07-10T05:24:17 < inca> stlink is slow, but even a 25 MHz SWV is better than a maxed out UART 2013-07-10T05:25:24 < inca> dongs: I was considering getting a ulink2 or pro... go big or go home, right? except I won't need it after this job so that kind of sucks 2013-07-10T05:27:08 < dongs> inca: well, ulink2 is cool because latest firmware you can switch it to cmsis-dap mode which means it'll be supported by pretty much any modern tools 2013-07-10T05:27:28 < dongs> otherwise its kinda limited to keil only, which is a bummer. 2013-07-10T05:27:36 < dongs> jlink would be a better investment for cross-platform 2013-07-10T05:29:14 < inca> is it possible to debug with keil mdk-lite for externally compiled binaries? 2013-07-10T05:29:22 -!- akaWolf 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I might try it and see if it doesn't puke on > 32 kb elfs. 2013-07-10T05:30:14 < dongs> it wont 2013-07-10T05:30:19 < dongs> since gcc does the linking 2013-07-10T05:30:21 < inca> I have used the axf's and elf's interchangable 2013-07-10T05:30:27 < dongs> i could never get it work so... 2013-07-10T05:30:33 < dongs> (gcc in keil) 2013-07-10T05:30:37 < inca> I never got GCC to work in keil either 2013-07-10T05:30:44 < dongs> but last i tried i used some aids shit from codesorcery 2013-07-10T05:30:49 < inca> but I can get external gcc to work with makefile... 2013-07-10T05:30:50 < dongs> maybe g-a-e is better 2013-07-10T05:31:04 < inca> g-a-e is getting more solid by the release. they are getting pretty good 2013-07-10T05:31:41 < inca> q2 is out, and it works. can't remember my benchmarks, but it didn't break anything I needed so I am happy. 2013-07-10T05:37:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-10T05:39:05 < inca> dongs: do you only get to use SWV with KEIL or do you have other configurations that work with SWV? 2013-07-10T05:39:37 < inca> I guess I mean OpenOCD 2013-07-10T05:39:58 < dongs> no, just keil 2013-07-10T05:40:08 < dongs> i used their logic analyzer shit with it 2013-07-10T05:40:19 < dongs> didnt use it for semihosting or wahtever 2013-07-10T05:40:21 < dongs> where you printf over that shit 2013-07-10T05:40:32 < inca> neat... yeah, semihosting is slow. SWV looks faster for printf's 2013-07-10T05:41:29 < inca> I guess I will have to check out the ARM docs on SWV to see how I can tickle it... the semihosting stuff is pretty easy, so maybe the SWV is as straightforward. 2013-07-10T05:43:28 < dongs> http://www.keil.com/download/files/labst.pdf there was something similar i used to set it up 2013-07-10T05:43:33 < dongs> last few pages talk about setup 2013-07-10T05:44:54 < inca> thanks! 2013-07-10T05:47:05 < dongs> I got a nice legit ulink2me from zyp 2013-07-10T05:47:10 < dongs> that he got with some keil evalboard 2013-07-10T05:47:17 < dongs> all same feature of ulink2 i think 2013-07-10T05:47:20 < dongs> just tiny form factor 2013-07-10T05:47:33 < dongs> http://www.keil.com/ulinkme/ 2013-07-10T05:51:13 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-10T05:54:01 < inca> the board is a USB connector? 2013-07-10T05:54:53 < dongs> huh? 2013-07-10T05:55:09 < dongs> no theres microusb shit under that cable 2013-07-10T05:55:11 < dongs> you can sorta see it 2013-07-10T05:55:14 < dongs> pointing up 2013-07-10T05:55:17 < inca> ah, gotcha 2013-07-10T05:56:17 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T05:56:42 < inca> looks like OpenOCD may support ulink... http://openocd.sourceforge.net/doc/doxygen/html/ulink_8c_source.html 2013-07-10T05:57:19 < dongs> shocking 2013-07-10T05:57:26 < dongs> not sure why would anyone want to ouse that tho 2013-07-10T05:57:33 < dongs> #define ULINK_FIRMWARE_FILE PKGLIBDIR "/OpenULINK/ulink_firmware.hex" 2013-07-10T05:57:37 < dongs> sounds like once you flash that 2013-07-10T05:57:41 < dongs> youre $300 debug probe is toast 2013-07-10T05:57:48 < dongs> turns it into openanusulink 2013-07-10T05:57:53 < dongs> with 0 features of original 2013-07-10T05:58:02 < dongs> probly onlyt wqorks on lunix too 2013-07-10T05:59:04 < inca> heh... 2013-07-10T06:00:21 < mtbg> it loads the fw to RAM 2013-07-10T06:00:33 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@3.sub-75-233-68.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:00:47 < mtbg> the ulink is seemingly cypress fx2-based 2013-07-10T06:01:27 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-10T06:03:09 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-10T06:03:16 < inca> wmat of #openocd said that SWV is experimental part of SWD in OpenOCD. So far, semihosting has worked rather well, so perhaps I will give SWV a try with OpenOCD. Too bad I can't use OpenOCD and ST-Link software at the same time 2013-07-10T06:04:40 < inca> Ah, I take it back. No SWV support in OpenOCD. 2013-07-10T06:05:19 < dongs> < mtbg> the ulink is seemingly cypress fx2-based 2013-07-10T06:05:22 < dongs> it most definitely not 2013-07-10T06:05:26 < inca> and OpenULINK apparently only supports original ULINK 2013-07-10T06:05:28 < dongs> I have a ulink2 and its some NXP chip 2013-07-10T06:05:34 < dongs> single chip 2013-07-10T06:05:35 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-10T06:05:38 < inca> dongs: only the original is 2013-07-10T06:07:27 < dongs> terrible it must have been slow 2013-07-10T06:07:36 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:10:33 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-10T06:10:41 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:12:07 < inca> slow debugging sucks 2013-07-10T06:12:15 * inca stares intently at Eclipse 2013-07-10T06:13:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:13:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-10T06:13:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:13:31 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@214.sub-75-244-170.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:14:47 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest91041 2013-07-10T06:14:55 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-10T06:15:46 -!- Guest91041 [~bjfree@3.sub-75-233-68.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-10T06:30:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:34:09 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-22-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T06:38:30 < R0b0t1> inca, the trick is to stare harder. 2013-07-10T06:42:39 -!- mtbg [~mtbg@cdw55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-10T07:24:26 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/esfQIge.jpg got my new irc station setup 2013-07-10T07:26:43 < dongs> attn zyp http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-gpm-mission-announces-anime-contest-winners/#.UdzicPk3DOH 2013-07-10T07:38:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T07:38:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-10T07:38:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T07:47:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-10T07:47:49 < inca> ITM_SendChar(), ftw! 2013-07-10T07:49:03 < dongs> thats all? 2013-07-10T07:49:13 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@214.sub-75-244-170.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-10T07:49:13 < dongs> http://forum.energymicro.com/topic/71-swo-printf-in-keil/ 2013-07-10T07:49:14 < dongs> nice 2013-07-10T07:50:21 < inca> yes... in CM3.h for me. It just works... now I need to bug the OSS guys to put it into OpenOCD and Blackmagic Probe 2013-07-10T07:50:42 < dongs> is it fast? 2013-07-10T07:51:00 < dongs> i rmemeber char printing wiht semihosting was BALLS SLOW 2013-07-10T07:51:30 < inca> on STLINK/V2 it is running at 2 MHz and invasively taking 1 clock cycle per character... 2013-07-10T07:52:13 < inca> semihosting is more for ... I don't know what. Sharing really slow peripherals. 2013-07-10T07:52:23 < inca> Like a mouse or something. 2013-07-10T07:52:28 < inca> On the faster ARMs 2013-07-10T07:53:11 < inca> SWV is for data. It has two modes apparently... 1 Mbit (?) UART and 100 Mbit Machester something something 2013-07-10T07:53:30 < inca> So yes, this is fast. 2013-07-10T07:54:12 < inca> blows my 112kbps RS232 crap out of the water, especially without all the weird streams crap around the chput stuff for printf 2013-07-10T07:54:48 < dongs> excellent. 2013-07-10T07:54:58 < inca> now I just need to get that data piped to a legit terminal for some ANSI color codes and I can debug my FNET IP stack in style 2013-07-10T07:55:09 < dongs> lawl 2013-07-10T07:55:50 < inca> seriously... this guy nearly put an ncurses terminal output for his TCP/IP stack trace debug stuff... it's... impressive 2013-07-10T07:57:16 < dongs> yea i can see the use 2013-07-10T08:04:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:12:41 -!- arnon [~arnon@bzq-84-109-214-125.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:14:28 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-22-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-10T08:19:17 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-133-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:25:13 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:25:48 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-133-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-10T08:32:06 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-49-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:32:44 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-49-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-10T08:33:41 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-201-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:39:57 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:43:31 < dongs> i want a decimal to troll converter. input: 22, output: 0x277e. 2013-07-10T08:43:38 < dongs> any good suggestions? 2013-07-10T08:44:10 < dongs> 72 = 0xf4628 2013-07-10T08:44:11 < dongs> etc. 2013-07-10T08:44:25 < emeb_mac> huh? 2013-07-10T08:44:48 < dongs> 40 = 0x18a88 2013-07-10T08:45:03 < jef79m> so binary as base 10 to hex? 2013-07-10T08:45:04 < dongs> 31 = 0x2b67 2013-07-10T08:45:07 < talsit> dongs: where do you buy your solder paste? 2013-07-10T08:45:26 < dongs> talsit: used to from zeph in u.s. but now I found a local place that sells SMIC stuff which is way better. 2013-07-10T08:45:34 < dongs> jef79m: guess so 2013-07-10T08:46:29 < talsit> dongs: can you give me the details of that local place? i've found that factories only want to sell me 1kg or 5kg, but i haven't found any shops that sell it 2013-07-10T08:47:19 < dongs> lemme check 2013-07-10T08:47:35 < dongs> it wasnt cheap tho, just fyi 2013-07-10T08:47:39 < dongs> cheaper than 12pack of zeph tho 2013-07-10T08:47:46 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T08:48:14 < talsit> how much is not cheap? 2013-07-10T08:48:28 < talsit> i mean, i've only been able to find 1kg tubs of anything else locally 2013-07-10T08:48:54 < dongs> http://www.matsuo21.com/?page_id=17 2013-07-10T08:49:01 < dongs> this is the trash place i got it from 2013-07-10T08:49:04 < dongs> syringe version 2013-07-10T08:49:11 < dongs> FLF01-BZ-D 2013-07-10T08:49:14 < dongs> 150gram 2013-07-10T08:49:18 < dongs> it was uh.. 16000 or so shipped. 2013-07-10T08:49:31 < talsit> ouch 2013-07-10T08:49:33 < dongs> but it is totally awesome. 2013-07-10T08:49:36 < talsit> yeah, that is expensive 2013-07-10T08:49:42 < dongs> well, 12pack of zeph is $260 shipped 2013-07-10T08:49:56 < dongs> ZLSP-12PK 2013-07-10T08:49:56 < dongs> Twelve 10cc Syringes With 12 Grams of Paste. 2013-07-10T08:50:06 < dongs> so you get 144 grams of paste 2013-07-10T08:50:10 < dongs> spread across 12 syringes 2013-07-10T08:50:26 < talsit> is the SMIC stuff lead-free? 2013-07-10T08:50:29 < dongs> of course 2013-07-10T08:50:33 < dongs> i only do leadfree. 2013-07-10T08:50:39 < dongs> i dunno where leaded trash is. 2013-07-10T08:51:19 < talsit> i went to buy some lead-free wire the other day, and the guy was double and triple checking i didn't actually want the "normal" stuff - the leaded 2013-07-10T08:51:46 < dongs> stop shopping around places that only sell dip parts 2013-07-10T08:52:29 < talsit> not many choices in osaka that i know of 2013-07-10T08:53:52 < dongs> anyway 2013-07-10T08:53:55 < dongs> good paste is not cheap 2013-07-10T08:53:57 < dongs> thats just how it is 2013-07-10T08:54:04 < dongs> you can buy $2.99 dealextreme special 2013-07-10T08:54:08 < dongs> and it'll perform as such. 2013-07-10T08:54:25 < talsit> exactly why i don't want that 2013-07-10T08:54:45 < dongs> i still hve a couple zeph sticks left if you want them - but I dont use it anymore. 2013-07-10T08:54:51 < dongs> you definitely need a stencil with this stuff though. 2013-07-10T08:55:20 < talsit> have you tried any of the other SMIC stuff? 2013-07-10T08:55:36 < talsit> trying to find out what the difference between BZ, LH, AZ, HR, CW, SD... 2013-07-10T08:55:53 < dongs> no, but most variations is just type of flux and ball size 2013-07-10T08:56:06 < dongs> i think this stuff is the finest, i've had it pasting DFN3x3 type shit with tiny pads and it worked ok 2013-07-10T08:56:49 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-10T08:59:37 < dongs> or you can read datasheets and see what the difference is 2013-07-10T08:59:46 < dongs> i just asked htem gimme the finest shit for bga/small pads that doesnt ball up 2013-07-10T08:59:52 < dongs> they gave me that. 2013-07-10T08:59:55 < dongs> works for me. 2013-07-10T09:00:15 < ds2> wonder if anyone has tried wire solder on BGAs 2013-07-10T09:00:26 < dongs> wat 2013-07-10T09:00:35 < ds2> wire solder to tin the pads 2013-07-10T09:00:39 < ds2> then paste flux 2013-07-10T09:00:45 < ds2> follow by BGA and then reflow 2013-07-10T09:02:36 < dongs> sounds as retarded as it does, i suspect. 2013-07-10T09:02:52 < dongs> i mean if youre doing BGA, you probably dont wanna do ghetto shit. 2013-07-10T09:04:44 < ds2> more of a rework thing 2013-07-10T09:04:51 < ds2> say reflow with hot air to replace just one chip 2013-07-10T09:06:06 < dongs> china already does this? 2013-07-10T09:07:19 < emeb_mac> what's wrong with single-chip stencil + paste solder? 2013-07-10T09:07:55 < emeb_mac> DX sells pre-made single-chip stencils for various footprints - metal, cheap 2013-07-10T09:08:26 < dongs> jpa-: int a = 22; int z = (a & 1) + (a & 2) * 5 + (a & 4) * 25 + (a & 8) * 125 + (a & 16) * 625; 2013-07-10T09:08:29 < dongs> err 2013-07-10T09:08:31 < dongs> jef79m: ^ 2013-07-10T09:17:42 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-10T09:23:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:28:12 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:28:51 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.213.109] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:31:09 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-10T09:32:23 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:32:35 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:32:58 -!- arnon [~arnon@bzq-84-109-214-125.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-10T09:34:37 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-10T09:37:08 < R2COM> anyone used those chinese 300$ reflow ovens? 2013-07-10T09:37:16 < R2COM> did they get better nowadays? 2013-07-10T09:37:29 < R2COM> I heard before that there were issues of smell with them 2013-07-10T09:39:29 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:40:15 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:40:33 < dongs> trash 2013-07-10T09:40:43 < R2COM> why 2013-07-10T09:40:48 < R2COM> what bad effects are there 2013-07-10T09:40:56 < R2COM> "trash" is not descriptive 2013-07-10T09:41:15 < R2COM> does it smell? 2013-07-10T09:41:21 < R2COM> does it heat non-uniformly? 2013-07-10T09:41:25 < R2COM> does it break soon? 2013-07-10T09:41:27 < R2COM> what is wrong 2013-07-10T09:41:44 < R2COM> does it overheat? 2013-07-10T09:41:46 < R2COM> or what? 2013-07-10T09:43:22 < dongs> example 2013-07-10T09:43:25 < dongs> T962 2013-07-10T09:43:28 < dongs> typical $300 china oven 2013-07-10T09:43:29 -!- arnon [~arnon@bzq-79-176-163-4.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:43:31 < dongs> 1) catches on fire 2013-07-10T09:43:37 < dongs> 2) heat area about 5x5 cm in teh center 2013-07-10T09:43:42 < dongs> 3) very shitty/nonuniform heating 2013-07-10T09:43:45 < dongs> 4) forget it for leadfree 2013-07-10T09:44:49 < talsit> what would you recommend instead? 2013-07-10T09:45:43 < dongs> nothing that you can afford 2013-07-10T09:45:50 < dongs> decent china ovens start at around $2-2.5k 2013-07-10T09:46:02 < dongs> my current setup is F4N, before that I was on T200N 2013-07-10T09:47:03 < R2COM> looking at it 2013-07-10T09:47:22 < R2COM> doesnt look that impressive, I think I'v seen better ones for 1600-2000 2013-07-10T09:47:52 < R2COM> that 300$ one I was thinking is it worth it at all or not for home toying around 2013-07-10T09:48:12 < dongs> which one is it? 2013-07-10T09:48:14 < dongs> if t962, no 2013-07-10T09:48:25 < R2COM> yeah I guess that one 2013-07-10T09:48:30 < R2COM> I dont think there are others 2013-07-10T09:48:33 < R2COM> at least I didnt see 2013-07-10T09:49:23 < R2COM> that f4n's details written in such a chinglish.. 2013-07-10T09:50:27 < R2COM> so is its area truly 390x250 mm? 2013-07-10T09:50:35 < R2COM> I mean *effective* heating area 2013-07-10T09:52:20 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-10T09:52:26 < dongs> its got proper convection 2013-07-10T09:52:31 < dongs> not like the fucking T962 2013-07-10T09:52:36 < dongs> where it just heats up and fans after the fact 2013-07-10T09:52:37 < R2COM> wtf they talking about "nitrogen" protection 2013-07-10T09:52:40 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-10T09:52:55 < dongs> N2 in the reflow , pushed out oxygen to shit doesnt oxidize 2013-07-10T09:53:01 < dongs> solder looks better 2013-07-10T09:53:02 < dongs> and stuff. 2013-07-10T09:53:06 < dongs> probly solders better too. 2013-07-10T09:53:20 < R2COM> where it takes nitrogen from 2013-07-10T09:54:10 < dongs> a tank? 2013-07-10T09:54:11 -!- DanteA [~X@host-102-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: Honour I have.] 2013-07-10T09:54:35 < R2COM> ok so you fill in the tanks then regularly 2013-07-10T09:54:37 < emeb_mac> then you get in deep trouble when someone substitutes propane tank... 2013-07-10T09:55:03 < R2COM> emeb_mac: thats why you never let "someone" in your lab. 2013-07-10T09:55:19 < emeb_mac> yep - they're full of mischief 2013-07-10T09:56:47 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:58:24 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.213.109] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-10T09:58:42 -!- DanteA [~X@host-252-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T09:58:49 < R2COM> my manufacturer put Non-Pb mark on my PCBs... sillies.. little do they know how much I love leaded solder 2013-07-10T09:59:46 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-10T10:05:37 -!- moarmoar_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-10T10:07:51 -!- moarmoar [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T10:08:30 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-10T10:11:37 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T10:13:05 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T10:15:56 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T10:16:40 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-10T10:30:30 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-10T10:31:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-10T10:33:41 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.213.109] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T10:42:34 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-10T10:42:43 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T10:43:53 < jef79m> Dongs. 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I think they didn't release it yet. Same with the reference manual for the stm32f4x9 2013-07-10T13:58:42 < trepidaciousMBR> I was wondering how to find out when they will actually make the newer STM32F4's available 2013-07-10T13:58:53 < trepidaciousMBR> ST don't really seem to like communicating anything with anyone :) 2013-07-10T13:59:18 <+Steffanx> I guess you have to check digikey, mouser etc. regularly 2013-07-10T13:59:44 <+Steffanx> Or have inside info like ntfreak :) 2013-07-10T14:12:37 < ntfreak> newer ones are available to some - tends to be vlarge custies. They have a nice discovery kit coming aswell. 2013-07-10T14:20:18 < ntfreak> last i have been told is full prod sept - not releasing rev1.0 silicon, release will be rev1.2 2013-07-10T14:21:55 <+Steffanx> Whoa, sept. :( 2013-07-10T14:22:05 <+Steffanx> oh, no that is actually pretty soon :P 2013-07-10T14:22:26 < ntfreak> but this is ST we are talking about :) 2013-07-10T14:23:05 < ntfreak> didn't mention the year :) 2013-07-10T14:23:19 <+Steffanx> If it were Atmel I would've been sure it is not 2013 2013-07-10T14:23:33 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T14:23:41 <+Steffanx> ST gets the benefit of the doubt 2013-07-10T14:43:56 < dongs> ntfreak spreading NDA info again 2013-07-10T14:45:07 <+Steffanx> That's not your problems is it dongs? :) 2013-07-10T14:49:19 < ntfreak> thats not under nda 2013-07-10T14:49:37 < Laurenceb> new discovery? 2013-07-10T14:49:42 < Laurenceb> with 180mhz F4? 2013-07-10T14:50:01 < Laurenceb> http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/hobbyking-introduces-simonk-timecop-designed-afroesc 2013-07-10T14:50:03 < Laurenceb> haha 2013-07-10T14:50:05 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-10T14:50:11 < dongs> lol dongs 2013-07-10T14:50:22 < Laurenceb> you get royalties? 2013-07-10T14:50:43 < Laurenceb> lol the logo 2013-07-10T14:52:04 < Laurenceb> very neat FETs 2013-07-10T14:52:31 < Laurenceb> "Not so sure abou the brand name, but the specs look OK." 2013-07-10T14:52:50 < dongs> totally legit 2013-07-10T14:53:15 < Laurenceb> "Royalties paid on each unit sold to SimonK and Hamasaki for their design work, without which the Afro ESC would never have been born" 2013-07-10T14:53:25 < Laurenceb> doesnt sound like Dongs 2013-07-10T14:54:47 < Laurenceb> what stm is on there? 2013-07-10T14:55:18 < Laurenceb> "AFRO'S....???? I want ESC's THAT WORK!!!!! " 2013-07-10T14:56:12 < dongs> i want people to learn english 2013-07-10T14:56:18 < dongs> afro's what? 2013-07-10T14:56:28 < dongs> dumb niggers. 2013-07-10T14:57:10 <+Steffanx> Where you read that Laurenceb? Probably a dutch guy going english. 2013-07-10T14:57:23 < Laurenceb> on hobbyking 2013-07-10T14:57:39 < Laurenceb> "I fully agree with Stefan, it's really idiotic to have only 0.5Amp BEC in this ESC, generally even 2Amp BEC is also considered inadequate and people prefer at least 3Amp." 2013-07-10T14:57:44 <+Steffanx> Oh, no dutch 2013-07-10T14:57:45 < Laurenceb> wtf are people running 2013-07-10T14:57:50 <+Steffanx> *y 2013-07-10T14:58:39 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T14:59:36 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-10T14:59:52 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T15:04:42 < Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MeIKla-TIkM 2013-07-10T15:04:46 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-10T15:07:20 <+Steffanx> Where's the fun? 2013-07-10T15:08:14 < Laurenceb> the logos 2013-07-10T15:10:01 < mervaka> eeeeeeere 2013-07-10T15:10:16 < mervaka> can someone help me get the logic analyser running? <3 2013-07-10T15:11:06 < mervaka> i'm getting communication error when i set the core clock to 10MHz in trace dialog, and HW buffer overrun when 72MHz 2013-07-10T15:12:20 < mervaka> not sure exactly which clock the documentation means when it refers to a "core clock" 2013-07-10T15:12:33 -!- Chetic [~Chetic@212.112.62.121] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T15:12:41 < mervaka> would that be sysclk? 2013-07-10T15:19:41 < dongs> sysclk 2013-07-10T15:19:44 < dongs> works for me at 72 2013-07-10T15:20:59 < dongs> 11:43 < dongs> http://www.keil.com/download/files/labst.pdf there was something similar i used to set it up 2013-07-10T15:21:08 < dongs> last few pages talk about the trace dialog 2013-07-10T15:23:46 -!- DanteA [~X@host-20-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-10T15:25:33 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.213.109] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-10T15:27:34 -!- 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arnonh> did any one managed to do OpenOCD -> FT232H ->SWD -> STM32F1 2013-07-10T18:14:18 < iR0b0t1> if openocd supports swd you should be able to use any serial interface 2013-07-10T18:14:35 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T18:15:56 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T18:16:15 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-10T18:17:01 < arnonh> in the newer versions(0.7) the say thay do but i could not understand if its only avalible thru stlink or thru any interface 2013-07-10T18:17:11 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-10T18:17:18 < Laurenceb> why would anyone use FTDI crap 2013-07-10T18:17:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-10T18:17:27 < Laurenceb> grab a discovery board 2013-07-10T18:17:57 < iR0b0t1> He may be trying to program something already in a system 2013-07-10T18:18:31 < iR0b0t1> But yeah, if you're 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Eventually side-effects of this cost-cutting will surface and be blamed on you. 2013-07-10T18:35:34 < iR0b0t1> Just to get proper tools. One-time investment. 2013-07-10T18:35:55 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-10T18:35:55 < iR0b0t1> So many hyphen-words, I wonder what happened to my vocabulary recently. 2013-07-10T18:36:06 <+Steffanx> Who says it isn't a student project iR0b0t1? 2013-07-10T18:36:12 < Laurenceb> side effects is 2 words 2013-07-10T18:37:11 <+Steffanx> /nick i-R0b0t :) 2013-07-10T18:37:12 < iR0b0t1> Then he could buy an stlink for himself and just happen to use it for his project :d 2013-07-10T18:37:16 < arnonh> its kind of student project but i think i will shellout the price of the dicovery board myself to have another toy 2013-07-10T18:37:24 < iR0b0t1> Ah, good man! 2013-07-10T18:37:56 <+Steffanx> which one arnonh? 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2013-07-11T01:56:06 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T01:56:16 < someone_r> is a little bit twisted and cross also 2 vias... 2013-07-11T01:56:25 < R2COM> so 2013-07-11T01:56:27 < R2COM> ? 2013-07-11T01:56:30 < someone_r> is that really bad? 2013-07-11T01:56:38 < R2COM> depends on what type of vias they are 2013-07-11T01:56:39 < someone_r> i mean is gonna create problem? 2013-07-11T01:56:42 < someone_r> small 2013-07-11T01:56:44 < R2COM> whats the impedanbce? 2013-07-11T01:56:45 < someone_r> also the tracks 2013-07-11T01:56:50 < someone_r> 5 mils 2013-07-11T01:56:53 < R2COM> whats the *target* impedance 2013-07-11T01:56:58 < R2COM> 50 Ohm? 2013-07-11T01:56:59 < someone_r> 50 ohm 2013-07-11T01:57:02 < someone_r> yes 2013-07-11T01:57:24 < R2COM> well 2013-07-11T01:57:33 < R2COM> whats the drill size? 2013-07-11T01:57:46 < someone_r> 8 mil 2013-07-11T01:58:00 < R2COM> and material type? 2013-07-11T01:58:02 < someone_r> acually 5 2013-07-11T01:58:08 < R2COM> 4 layer pcb? with reference plane? (GND) ? 2013-07-11T01:58:12 < someone_r> no 2013-07-11T01:58:16 < someone_r> 2 layer 2013-07-11T01:58:24 < R2COM> bottom is untouched uncut ground plane? 2013-07-11T01:58:28 < someone_r> no 2013-07-11T01:58:33 < someone_r> there are some lines 2013-07-11T01:58:35 < someone_r> :S 2013-07-11T01:58:51 < someone_r> is because i had to shrink everything... 2013-07-11T01:58:54 < R2COM> well then its fucked up, but since range is not big you might be ok 2013-07-11T01:59:10 < R2COM> but I count it as shit layout actually 2013-07-11T01:59:10 < someone_r> the total board is 3 cm 2013-07-11T01:59:27 < R2COM> using 2 layer is totally fine, but you must make sure theres good ground udnerneath the trace 2013-07-11T01:59:39 < R2COM> *at least* underneath the trace 2013-07-11T02:00:00 < R2COM> its 64 mil thickness board I assume 2013-07-11T02:00:03 < R2COM> and fr4? 2013-07-11T02:00:14 < someone_r> so the output of the transceiver goes to some inductors and then to the antenna 2013-07-11T02:00:25 < someone_r> is the first part wich is very long and thin track 2013-07-11T02:00:47 < someone_r> 0.5 cm in thicknes 2013-07-11T02:00:50 < R2COM> actually to get target 50Ohm it must not be thin 2013-07-11T02:00:55 < R2COM> it must be around 120 mils 2013-07-11T02:01:00 < someone_r> i cant 2013-07-11T02:01:03 < someone_r> 120??? 2013-07-11T02:01:09 < someone_r> i hav e 5 MILS 2013-07-11T02:01:21 < R2COM> with er=4.4,(typical fr4) + 50Ohm , yes around 120 mil 2013-07-11T02:01:38 < someone_r> i cant sorry 2013-07-11T02:01:43 < someone_r> no space 2013-07-11T02:01:50 < R2COM> means, you have to redesign then 2013-07-11T02:01:53 < someone_r> so how bad is that 2013-07-11T02:01:54 < someone_r> ? 2013-07-11T02:01:57 < R2COM> well 2013-07-11T02:02:11 < R2COM> as I said it might work..if your stuff is really narrow bandwdidth thing.. you might get lucky 2013-07-11T02:02:28 < someone_r> i have to tranmist a 2.4 ghz 2013-07-11T02:02:39 < R2COM> 2.4Ghz is not bandwdidth I suppose 2013-07-11T02:02:43 < someone_r> no 2013-07-11T02:02:46 < someone_r> :D 2013-07-11T02:02:55 < someone_r> is nrmal wireless 2013-07-11T02:02:57 < R2COM> well..if real bandwidth is very narrow you might be ok 2013-07-11T02:03:24 < R2COM> if board is so small..whats the deal get 4 layer board 2013-07-11T02:03:41 < someone_r> with a ground plane in between? 2013-07-11T02:03:52 < someone_r> there are 100 vias in such small board 2013-07-11T02:03:55 < R2COM> with typical 4 layer stackup, of around 8 mils between 1st and 2nd layers, then your top trace can be 12mils to get 50Ohm, its much better match 2013-07-11T02:04:13 < R2COM> signal/ground/power/signal 2013-07-11T02:04:31 < R2COM> in that case, with 12mil you get closer to 50Ohm 2013-07-11T02:04:41 < R2COM> also untouched and uncut ground plane 2013-07-11T02:04:46 < someone_r> 12 or 120? 2013-07-11T02:05:02 < R2COM> with 4 layer stackup and small distance between 1st and 2nd layers its 12 mil to get to 50Ohm 2013-07-11T02:05:19 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-11T02:05:42 < someone_r> so but if i redesign it 2013-07-11T02:06:02 < someone_r> and i get the antenna very close to components and chip 2013-07-11T02:06:31 < someone_r> less than 0.5 cm can i use 5 mils tracks? 2013-07-11T02:06:38 <+Steffanx> Not to offend R2COM , but sometimes it's good to check what people say someone_r :) 2013-07-11T02:07:25 < someone_r> (i will place a ground plane in the bottom of the antenna) 2013-07-11T02:07:31 < R2COM> sure check it, load any impedance program and input permittivity value, Thickness of prepreg, and copper plating thickness, and track width and see what you get 2013-07-11T02:07:41 <+Steffanx> Actually, it's always go to check instead of blind trust 2013-07-11T02:07:45 <+Steffanx> *good to 2013-07-11T02:07:51 < someone_r> yes yes 2013-07-11T02:08:01 < qyx_> ground plane under the antenna? 2013-07-11T02:08:12 < R2COM> thank you captain obvious :) 2013-07-11T02:08:39 <+Steffanx> I don't say you are wrong R2COM, but it wouldn't be the first time someone does the wrong stuff because someone as slightly of or someone misunderstood 2013-07-11T02:08:48 <+Steffanx> *was 2013-07-11T02:09:28 < R2COM> http://www.mantaro.com/resources/impedance_calculator.htm#differential_microstrip2_impedance 2013-07-11T02:09:28 < someone_r> no no i mean i know that... anyway thanks for the warning 2013-07-11T02:09:35 < R2COM> go to the table called: Microstrip Impedance Calculator: 2013-07-11T02:09:56 < R2COM> and input the params mentioned before 2013-07-11T02:10:14 < R2COM> this thing was 1st hit on google 2013-07-11T02:10:23 < R2COM> I'm pretty sure there are many similar 2013-07-11T02:10:33 < R2COM> just search for impedance calculator 2013-07-11T02:12:07 < someone_r> so just for be clear 2013-07-11T02:12:27 < someone_r> FROM the output of the chip 2013-07-11T02:12:40 < R2COM> so? 2013-07-11T02:12:55 < someone_r> i have to make all the TRACKs of 50 ohm impedence? 2013-07-11T02:13:14 < R2COM> well, look up chips datasheet make sure its output is really 50 ohm, then yes 2013-07-11T02:13:55 < dongs> someone_r: all the RF tracks 2013-07-11T02:14:01 < dongs> if you have some filters and shit in them 2013-07-11T02:14:15 < someone_r> so what happen if i just connect the 50ohm chip output with the 50 ohm antenna by using a 5 mils track 2013-07-11T02:14:16 < dongs> track from antenna -> filter -> RF chip 2013-07-11T02:14:31 < dongs> 5 mils on 2L is nowhere near 50ohm. 2013-07-11T02:14:41 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-11T02:14:43 < zyp> someone_r, if you have an impedance mismatch, you get a loss there 2013-07-11T02:14:51 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-11T02:15:07 < zyp> but as you mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter much if the trace is very short 2013-07-11T02:15:33 < someone_r> exacly... this is the point that i do not understand 2013-07-11T02:15:38 < zyp> if the chip is right next to the antenna, it's probably irrelevant 2013-07-11T02:16:20 < zyp> the longer the trace with impedance mismatch is, the larger loss you have 2013-07-11T02:16:31 < zyp> so a very small trace will probably be too short to care about 2013-07-11T02:16:36 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-11T02:16:49 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T02:16:50 < someone_r> so longer is the track with mismath... 2013-07-11T02:17:11 < someone_r> i thought that the reflection would be only at the interface 2013-07-11T02:17:20 < someone_r> Reflection=loss 2013-07-11T02:17:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/8WKL8Yx.jpg I made this with totally wrong trace width for 75Ohm that it should have been 2013-07-11T02:17:27 -!- BjoernC_ [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T02:17:28 < dongs> but it still "works" 2013-07-11T02:18:03 < someone_r> and then no matter how long was the mismatch! 2013-07-11T02:18:29 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-11T02:19:07 <+Steffanx> wasn't that for a much lower freq dongs? 2013-07-11T02:19:28 < R2COM> shitty design might sometimes work on a higher freq too actually 2013-07-11T02:20:05 < R2COM> they might not work in case if one designs receiver for very weak and at the same time wideband signals 2013-07-11T02:23:43 < R2COM> so..assembled more of my recent same stm32 based boards, works nice 2013-07-11T02:24:01 < R2COM> one thing sucks with texane is, you need to disconnect before new code download 2013-07-11T02:24:09 < R2COM> at least with its windows implementation 2013-07-11T02:24:20 < someone_r> Thank you guys 2013-07-11T02:24:22 < R2COM> I'll get a decent dongle soon 2013-07-11T02:24:36 < someone_r> really... 2013-07-11T02:24:45 < someone_r> i really appreciate your help 2013-07-11T02:25:00 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T02:25:58 < talsit> dongs: what does that board do? 2013-07-11T02:26:41 -!- betovar [~betovar@72.16.218.22] has quit [] 2013-07-11T02:28:17 <+Steffanx> iirc he said it was a tv receiver 2013-07-11T02:32:57 < dongs> talsit: receive isdb + ac data 2013-07-11T02:54:14 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T03:12:57 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925199704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:12:57 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925199704.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-11T03:12:57 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:17:59 -!- BjoernC_ [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T03:18:26 -!- BjoernC_ [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:20:15 -!- rmob [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: NO WINE, NO WIFE, NO CARRIER] 2013-07-11T03:20:15 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has quit [Quit: NO WINE, NO WIFE, NO CARRIER] 2013-07-11T03:20:49 -!- rmob [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:21:19 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:22:12 -!- zippe1 [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-11T03:30:13 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-109.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:30:29 < timemob> http://www.imgur.com/nSgXjxY.png 2013-07-11T03:31:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T03:35:19 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:43:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:43:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-11T03:43:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:52:47 -!- BjoernC_ [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T03:55:54 -!- CoolBear [~hightower@ti0069a380-0372.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-11T03:56:01 -!- CoolBear [~hightower@ti0069a380-0372.bb.online.no] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T03:57:53 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T03:58:36 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-11T04:00:48 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T04:02:07 < R2COM> fuckit 2013-07-11T04:02:18 < R2COM> i was expecting some pcb related pi 2013-07-11T04:02:19 < R2COM> pic 2013-07-11T04:04:19 -!- t1memob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-109.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T04:04:19 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-109.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-11T04:05:47 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T04:08:34 < t1memob> Lol 2013-07-11T04:27:21 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-108.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T04:31:23 -!- t1memob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-109.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-11T04:32:50 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@12.sub-75-233-210.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T04:33:30 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-11T04:43:32 < upgrdman> is it ok to use multiple pins for the same AF? like use two pins for I2C1_SDA, so two devices can connect to different pins but both use I2C1? 2013-07-11T04:43:55 < zyp> in general: no 2013-07-11T04:44:45 < zyp> I'm not really sure what would happen if you tried though, so you might as well, so we can learn from it ;) 2013-07-11T04:51:04 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T04:56:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:00:35 < R2COM> i think it should be possible, if one re-configures ports? 2013-07-11T05:06:25 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-240-187.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-11T05:10:23 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:11:06 < timemob> Lol. 2013-07-11T05:11:17 < timemob> Try it and see. 2013-07-11T05:12:38 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-11T05:20:13 -!- someone_r [someone_r@pool-108-28-201-106.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:24:26 < R2COM1> haha 2013-07-11T05:24:43 < R2COM1> as always theres tons of difference between cheap chinese MY84 multimeter and Fluke 2013-07-11T05:24:47 < zyp> of course, if you only use one at a time it's fine 2013-07-11T05:25:16 < zyp> and since you're master you re of course in control of when each will be used 2013-07-11T05:27:01 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@12.sub-75-233-210.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-11T05:29:33 -!- t1memob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-108.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:32:38 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-108.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-11T05:33:50 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:35:39 -!- mrcan__ [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:37:09 -!- dongs_ [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:38:51 -!- luke1 [~luke@cnh8092115140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:38:53 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-11T05:39:10 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:40:55 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-11T05:40:57 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:40:57 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffann] by ChanServ 2013-07-11T05:43:50 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Count_Niedar, stephendwyer, Tectu, Luggi09, mrcan_, dongs 2013-07-11T05:45:23 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T05:48:37 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-11T05:48:37 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-11T05:50:25 < t1memob> I think he means actually connecting to different set of AF pins and setting their AF to same peripheral 2013-07-11T05:50:36 < t1memob> To avoid routing shit 2013-07-11T05:50:59 < t1memob> Probably because he still uses single layer boards in 2013 2013-07-11T05:51:17 < upgrdman> lol, nsfw http://i.imgur.com/rBHEkRx.jpg 2013-07-11T05:51:33 < upgrdman> t1memob: yes :) 2013-07-11T06:05:15 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-11T06:09:27 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T06:09:27 -!- stephendwyer [stephendwy@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T06:09:35 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-11T06:09:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T06:12:57 < gxti_> don't post that crap here 2013-07-11T06:13:45 < t1memob> Ya unfunny and mega old 2013-07-11T06:13:50 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-11T06:16:24 -!- t1memob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-108.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-11T06:20:25 < upgrdman> anyone use diptrace? 2013-07-11T06:20:44 < upgrdman> 1 or 2 change layers, but how do i chance what layer a footprint gets put into 2013-07-11T06:21:03 < upgrdman> change what layer* 2013-07-11T06:28:28 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T06:28:32 < R2COM> I think dongs is using it 2013-07-11T06:28:43 < R2COM> he uses 5$k ide + shitty PCB soft 2013-07-11T06:29:09 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-11T06:40:27 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-100-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T06:43:53 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T06:49:52 -!- someone_r [someone_r@pool-108-28-201-106.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 2013-07-11T06:50:54 < dongs_> upgrdman: ? 2013-07-11T06:51:03 < dongs_> right click/change side? 2013-07-11T06:51:11 < dongs_> duhh 2013-07-11T06:51:13 < upgrdman> no hotkey? 2013-07-11T06:51:19 < dongs_> wut... 2013-07-11T06:51:28 < dongs_> select a bunch of shit and click once 2013-07-11T06:51:30 < dongs_> to change all 2013-07-11T06:51:33 < dongs_> wtf is the point of hotkey 2013-07-11T06:52:12 < upgrdman> seems kind of weird to not be able to change sides with a hotkey 2013-07-11T06:52:14 < upgrdman> but ok 2013-07-11T06:53:04 < dongs_> .. how often do you change sides on shit? 2013-07-11T06:53:51 < upgrdman> not often, but still :) 2013-07-11T06:54:12 < upgrdman> i also miss hotkeys that dont require meta keys :/ 2013-07-11T06:54:18 < upgrdman> geda ftw *ducks* 2013-07-11T06:54:41 < dongs_> ya, tehre's a reason you stopped using it 2013-07-11T06:54:44 < dongs_> because it FUCKING SUCKS. 2013-07-11T06:56:43 < upgrdman> for a ground fill, so i just use a filled rect? 2013-07-11T06:59:21 < dongs_> no, thats what you use in geda 2013-07-11T06:59:22 < dongs_> jesus christ 2013-07-11T06:59:29 < dongs_> use the fucking pour thing 2013-07-11T06:59:36 < dongs_> and it'll clear out whatever's in the way. 2013-07-11T06:59:45 < dongs_> .. filled rect haha 2013-07-11T06:59:50 < dongs_> i bet in geda you gotta make your own pours 2013-07-11T06:59:54 < dongs_> by editing some shit in notepad 2013-07-11T07:00:38 < upgrdman> no, just draw rect or freehand. done 2013-07-11T07:00:47 < upgrdman> noticed the pour tool. thanks. 2013-07-11T07:06:46 < R2COM> I assign such shit to hotkeys all the time 2013-07-11T07:06:53 < R2COM> less mouse movements, more work 2013-07-11T07:08:06 < upgrdman> does dicktrace support hotkeys without meta keys? 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2013-07-11T09:46:50 -!- DanteA [~X@host-146-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T10:02:14 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.213.109] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T10:02:48 -!- moarmoar_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T10:05:35 -!- moarmoar [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-11T10:06:47 < zyp> since monday 2013-07-11T10:06:57 < zyp> well, not best korea 2013-07-11T10:07:00 < zyp> but korea at least 2013-07-11T10:13:29 < dongs> funtimes. 2013-07-11T10:14:20 -!- DanteA [~X@host-146-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-11T10:16:03 < dongs> im thinking about the MIPI lcdtrash, and maybe checaper buy chinese LVDS driver board, then turn LVDS->parallel RGB and use RGB->MIPI converter chip 2013-07-11T10:16:10 < dongs> then I only need to make a small breakout for that trash 2013-07-11T10:16:33 < dongs> those are dirtcheap on ebay and have VGA/DVI etc in 2013-07-11T10:19:37 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-11T10:19:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T10:20:13 -!- DanteA [~X@host-82-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T10:27:31 < talsit> dongs, how much did you say a 150gr tub of that solder paste cost you? 2013-07-11T10:29:31 < dongs> around 16k? 2013-07-11T10:29:32 < dongs> or something 2013-07-11T10:30:00 < talsit> i've just been quoted 3300jpy, including delivery and cash-on-delivery charge 2013-07-11T10:32:08 < dongs> for 150gram? 2013-07-11T10:32:14 < talsit> yep 2013-07-11T10:32:24 < dongs> pics or it didnt happen 2013-07-11T10:33:49 < dongs> of FLF01-BZ-D? 2013-07-11T10:34:57 < talsit> dongs: pm 2013-07-11T10:35:20 < dongs> I wonder what hte difference D and L 2013-07-11T10:35:27 < talsit> dunno 2013-07-11T10:35:33 < talsit> but for that price, i'm gonna try it 2013-07-11T10:35:34 < dongs> ragecalling them 2013-07-11T10:35:49 < talsit> can you wait a bit until i place my order? 2013-07-11T10:35:57 < dongs> haah 2013-07-11T10:36:01 < dongs> no i wont mention you 2013-07-11T10:36:04 < dongs> ill just ask the diff L and D 2013-07-11T10:40:38 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T10:44:24 < coon> whats the best way to make a delay in microseconds? 2013-07-11T10:44:34 < coon> or measuring time in microseconds? 2013-07-11T10:44:49 < coon> i already tried this using TIM5 but the counter just doesent count: http://www.stm32circle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1337 2013-07-11T10:46:38 < dongs> lol @ topic id 1337 2013-07-11T10:46:48 < coon> :) 2013-07-11T10:47:57 < DanteA> Delay - circle 2013-07-11T10:48:14 < DanteA> Measure - timer 2013-07-11T10:48:47 < DanteA> Cycle* 2013-07-11T10:48:57 < coon> yeah but timer does not work 2013-07-11T10:49:05 < dongs> talsit: yeah, 10k to put it into a fucking plastic tube. 2013-07-11T10:49:25 < DanteA> Do it work 2013-07-11T10:49:30 < coon> how? 2013-07-11T10:49:42 < dongs> talsit: but youre getting it in some shitty jar 2013-07-11T10:50:02 < talsit> shitty? 2013-07-11T10:50:07 < talsit> as in, from the toilet? 2013-07-11T10:53:22 < dongs> http://www.matsuo21.com/wp-content/uploads/flf01-tm88z.jpg as in the green shit there. 2013-07-11T10:53:26 -!- DanteA [~X@host-82-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T10:53:53 < dongs> but thats pretty fucking cunty 2013-07-11T10:54:01 < talsit> yeah, that's perfect for me 2013-07-11T10:54:09 < dongs> because i could just get a 100 yen shop syringe and stick that shit in there. 2013-07-11T10:54:22 < talsit> maybe the stuff he's giving me is towards the end of its shelf life 2013-07-11T10:54:23 < dongs> this is how japs fuck their own folks over. 2013-07-11T10:54:33 < dongs> and fucking foreigners get bullshit special treatment 2013-07-11T10:54:39 < dongs> faggots. 2013-07-11T10:54:43 < dongs> :D 2013-07-11T10:54:48 < talsit> really? this is the first time for me 2013-07-11T10:54:49 < dongs> nah 2013-07-11T10:54:58 < dongs> cunt said it was 5k for half a kilo jar 2013-07-11T10:55:09 < dongs> I said, so does it take 10k for you to suqueezes it into a fucking tube? 2013-07-11T10:55:11 < dongs> "yes, sorry" 2013-07-11T10:55:33 < dongs> i could fly to osaka for 5k 2013-07-11T10:55:34 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@131.sub-75-233-84.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T10:55:39 < dongs> and fucking squeeze that shit into a tube for free 2013-07-11T10:55:42 < dongs> and carry it back 2013-07-11T10:55:43 < talsit> but why would you want to? 2013-07-11T10:55:54 < dongs> and its still cheaper 2013-07-11T10:55:56 < dongs> than paying them to do it 2013-07-11T10:56:05 < dongs> um, i squeeze the shit out into stencil printer from a tube? 2013-07-11T10:56:06 < dongs> i duno 2013-07-11T10:56:07 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-11T11:02:31 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.219] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:06:59 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@131.sub-75-233-84.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-11T11:08:15 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-11T11:09:41 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@100.sub-75-233-35.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:09:53 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T11:10:11 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-11T11:17:28 -!- DanteA [~X@host-210-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:19:23 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:23:39 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:27:11 < zyp> can't you just scoop some from the jar instead? 2013-07-11T11:27:30 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:27:46 < dongs> zyp, jar isnt airtight, so it will dry faster there 2013-07-11T11:27:53 < dongs> plus i'd need to mix it before scooping 2013-07-11T11:27:56 < dongs> so thats extra crap 2013-07-11T11:28:07 < dongs> with syringe there isnt much waste 2013-07-11T11:28:30 < zyp> fair point, I guess 2013-07-11T11:29:04 < R2COM> what 2013-07-11T11:29:07 < R2COM> paste? 2013-07-11T11:29:17 < R2COM> i have chiipquik jar 2013-07-11T11:29:21 < R2COM> its pretty tight closed 2013-07-11T11:30:04 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@100.sub-75-233-35.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-11T11:30:06 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@234.sub-75-196-7.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:30:42 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-11T11:44:17 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@55.sub-75-233-9.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T11:44:55 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest49515 2013-07-11T11:45:02 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-11T11:46:12 -!- Guest49515 [~bjfree@234.sub-75-196-7.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-11T11:50:11 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-11T11:50:27 <+Steffann> dont you make so many pcbs that the jar is empty before it even gets a chance to dry out dongs? 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They are going to review whether or not I can download a tool from them that they did not make? 2013-07-11T13:49:37 < dongs> what trash are you downloading 2013-07-11T13:49:53 < inca> SPC5-STUDIO 2013-07-11T13:50:31 < inca> their registration process didn't even work, so I had to use bugmenot 2013-07-11T13:53:20 < inca> there is a way to repurpose that for STM32 2013-07-11T13:53:41 < inca> F4, specifically 2013-07-11T13:53:42 < inca> http://forum.chibios.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=974 2013-07-11T13:55:39 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-11T13:59:08 < dongs> or could just use keil :) 2013-07-11T14:01:34 < inca> finally... a download link 2013-07-11T14:02:23 < inca> I would use keil without blinking if I were going to do this again, but the client balks at it... 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Really, be original. 2013-07-11T15:11:35 <+Steffann> *becoming 2013-07-11T15:12:12 -!- luke1 [~luke@cnh8092115140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-11T15:18:29 < dongs> ha 2013-07-11T15:18:36 < dongs> some guy submitted a breakout for LPDDR2 PoP package 2013-07-11T15:18:45 < dongs> its like 216-bga 2013-07-11T15:18:48 < dongs> but just 2 rows of pads 2013-07-11T15:18:51 < dongs> around perimeter 2013-07-11T15:26:24 -!- luke1 [~luke@cnh8092115140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T15:29:58 < dongs> http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt75/Christina-Touch/LCD%20LVDS%20or%20TTL%20cables/programmer/DSC_0259.jpg?t=1289876322 2013-07-11T15:30:56 < dongs> I guess its USB to I2C or something 2013-07-11T15:31:00 <+Steffann> uh what am i looking at? 2013-07-11T15:31:01 < dongs> and that crap is reflashable via DDC pins? 2013-07-11T15:31:03 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-11T15:31:06 < dongs> i duno either 2013-07-11T15:31:23 <+Steffann> i would say some ubs displayish thing, but .. 2013-07-11T15:31:27 < dongs> haha 2013-07-11T15:31:43 <+Steffann> looking at the url .. 2013-07-11T15:31:56 <+Steffann> programmer :S 2013-07-11T15:32:36 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/370825885452 anyway finally bought this trash 2013-07-11T15:32:50 < dongs> got DVI just for you. 2013-07-11T15:41:17 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/10/review_ciseco_pi_lite_for_raspberry_pi/ haha 2013-07-11T15:44:54 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.213.109] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-11T15:45:04 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:06:08 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T16:06:50 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:10:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-11T16:10:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:10:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-11T16:10:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:19:10 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:23:58 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:32:40 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T16:32:59 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-11T16:33:59 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:34:51 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-11T16:34:51 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:34:51 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-11T16:34:51 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T16:40:08 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T17:04:56 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@212.sub-75-196-111.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T17:06:14 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-11T17:19:26 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-168-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T17:24:00 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-11T17:24:07 < Laurenceb> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4329 2013-07-11T17:24:11 < Laurenceb> wtf o clock 2013-07-11T17:30:45 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-11T17:33:15 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T17:39:15 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T17:39:56 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2013-07-11T17:43:18 < dongs> aids 2013-07-11T17:43:32 < dongs> < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/10/review_ciseco_pi_lite_for_raspberry_pi/ haha 2013-07-11T17:43:35 < dongs> ^ attn Laurenceb 2013-07-11T17:43:47 <+Steffanx> Really can you stfu dongs? 2013-07-11T17:43:57 < dongs> wut? :( 2013-07-11T17:44:15 <+Steffanx> The is no @#$% need to say that again just to get him raging 2013-07-11T17:44:17 < dongs> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gaffer-camera.png wtff 2013-07-11T17:50:10 -!- mtbg [~mtbg@bzb131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T17:50:24 < mtbg> hi 2013-07-11T17:52:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T17:54:59 < dongs> sup 2013-07-11T17:55:02 < dongs> bloiggin 2013-07-11T18:01:08 < Laurenceb> more like boring 2013-07-11T18:07:28 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:16:04 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-11T18:16:12 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-249-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:17:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:17:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-11T18:18:00 < iR0b0t1> penis. 2013-07-11T18:18:32 < Laurenceb> i know you are 2013-07-11T18:24:09 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-11T18:24:10 -!- iR0b0t1 was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [Gone..] 2013-07-11T18:24:13 -!- R0b0t1 was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [Gone..] 2013-07-11T18:24:14 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:24:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-11T18:33:00 < dongs> blooks like zero lameness tolerance policy is in effect.. 2013-07-11T18:40:00 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-11T18:40:14 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-59-179.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:41:20 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:42:42 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T18:48:30 -!- l4cr0ss_ [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:48:39 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T18:49:13 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-11T18:58:09 -!- mrcan__ [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-11T19:10:14 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T19:15:51 < Laurenceb> http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/343087,new-samsung-galaxy-s4-active-and-galaxy-s4-zoom-coming.aspx 2013-07-11T19:15:53 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-11T19:16:59 < Ranewen> it must be japaneese 2013-07-11T19:20:26 < dongs> aidds 2013-07-11T19:33:46 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T19:34:31 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T19:35:46 -!- mtbg [~mtbg@bzb131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-11T19:35:47 -!- mtbg_ [~mtbg@aesi220.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T19:41:56 -!- DanteA [~X@host-210-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: Honour I have.] 2013-07-11T19:45:07 < emeb> Is that smartphone/camera combo in your pocket or... 2013-07-11T19:45:43 < Ranewen> nokia had 41megapixel phone like 2-3 years ago 2013-07-11T19:45:47 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T19:45:51 < Ranewen> so its not so innovating 2013-07-11T19:46:04 < emeb> and still no one cared. 2013-07-11T19:51:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.235.120] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T19:55:12 -!- DanteA [~X@host-210-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:02:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-11T20:03:02 -!- DanteA [~X@host-210-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T20:08:51 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:11:39 -!- l4cr0ss_ [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T20:13:53 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:14:36 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-11T20:14:36 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ is now known as trepidaciousMBR 2013-07-11T20:14:37 < Laurenceb> http://www.adafruit.com/products/736 2013-07-11T20:15:00 < Laurenceb> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1195 2013-07-11T20:15:49 < Ranewen> Laurenceb, is it 2A in 1 wire, or 6 ? 2013-07-11T20:16:05 < Laurenceb> dunno 2013-07-11T20:16:20 < Laurenceb> wonder if you could run usb through there 2013-07-11T20:16:22 <+Steffanx> "Each of the wire sets" 2013-07-11T20:16:31 < Ranewen> wire sets = 2013-07-11T20:16:38 <+Steffanx> All wires together 2013-07-11T20:16:43 < Ranewen> ah 2013-07-11T20:16:47 < Laurenceb> no 2013-07-11T20:16:47 < Ranewen> then i dont want to buy it 2013-07-11T20:16:53 < Laurenceb> 2 wires 2013-07-11T20:16:58 < Laurenceb> input + output 2013-07-11T20:17:09 < Ranewen> why not write 1A per wire ? 2013-07-11T20:17:12 < Laurenceb> " There are twelve color coded wire sets" 2013-07-11T20:17:28 < Ranewen> why not use the keep is simple principle ? 2013-07-11T20:17:35 < Ranewen> i dont want to buy it ... 2013-07-11T20:17:46 < Laurenceb> if you could run usb through there id be interested 2013-07-11T20:17:51 < Laurenceb> wonder if it would work 2013-07-11T20:17:56 <+Steffanx> Give i a try Laurenceb. 2013-07-11T20:18:02 < Laurenceb> i might 2013-07-11T20:18:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:18:11 < Laurenceb> for PTP to a gimbal camera 2013-07-11T20:18:19 <+Steffanx> I've seen people do USB with weird wires/traces 2013-07-11T20:18:24 <+Steffanx> *over 2013-07-11T20:18:25 < Laurenceb> me 2 2013-07-11T20:18:30 < Ranewen> btw.. i manadged to blink my stm32f4 disco board :) HURAY 2013-07-11T20:18:56 <+Steffanx> You can probably get a cheaper one from ebay though 2013-07-11T20:19:16 <+Steffanx> Hmm, not :S 2013-07-11T20:21:00 <+Steffanx> or perhaps with a better search term. "Mini Slip Ring" seems to get better results 2013-07-11T20:36:29 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:40:47 < emeb> I had a summer job in a physics lab once - they were running GPIB through a giant slip ring onto a spinning turntable loaded with HP rackmount equipment and a dewar full of liquid helium. That was cool. 2013-07-11T20:41:08 < emeb> (see what I did there?) 2013-07-11T20:42:04 -!- Lionhearted [~Ranewen@93-138-59-179.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:44:00 <+Steffanx> Sounds nice emeb, not sure what you did there :) 2013-07-11T20:45:09 < emeb> liquid helium / that was cool. <- lame, unintentional. 2013-07-11T20:45:16 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-138-59-179.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-11T20:45:40 < emeb> (or possibly subconsious punnery) 2013-07-11T20:46:56 <+Steffanx> :P 2013-07-11T20:48:19 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T20:52:45 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-11T20:52:54 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-11T20:57:12 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-11T20:57:26 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T21:09:55 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T21:10:08 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-11T21:11:00 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-11T21:12:10 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-240-187.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-11T21:13:44 < stephendwyer> Hi all, anyone know what happens to the state of GPIO pins when an stm32F1 goes into Standby or Stop mode? Can you keep the GPIO in an output mode? 2013-07-11T21:16:27 < Lionhearted> stephendwyer, i stumbled on it several times 2013-07-11T21:16:36 < Lionhearted> when i was reading the datasheet.s 2013-07-11T21:16:40 < stephendwyer> hmm ok 2013-07-11T21:16:50 < stephendwyer> i skimmed kind of fast but didn't see anything jump out at me 2013-07-11T21:16:54 < stephendwyer> i will read more carefully 2013-07-11T21:17:00 < Lionhearted> so you can see how it acts... 2013-07-11T21:17:01 < stephendwyer> it was in the datasheet not an app note? 2013-07-11T21:17:13 < Lionhearted> i was reading for f4 2013-07-11T21:17:22 < Lionhearted> brb have to install linux 2013-07-11T21:18:40 < stephendwyer> k i have to run anyways, eat something 2013-07-11T21:18:44 < emeb> lol "(11:17:22 AM) Lionhearted: brb have to install linux" 2013-07-11T21:19:10 < Lionhearted> not install configure 2013-07-11T21:19:14 < Lionhearted> pre install 2013-07-11T21:19:40 < emeb> did seem a bit incongruous / optimistic 2013-07-11T21:20:13 < Lionhearted> dont make fun of people who dont know shit 2013-07-11T21:20:29 < Lionhearted> just kidding... 2013-07-11T21:20:31 < emeb> not doing that. 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gxti_> interbutt 2013-07-12T04:19:47 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-12T04:21:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T04:38:22 < dongs> attn Laurenceb http://geekboy.it/projects/arduino-makes-underwear-fun 2013-07-12T04:50:01 < inca> why does eclipse suck so well 2013-07-12T04:52:07 < emeb_mac> it both sucks and blows. 2013-07-12T05:06:11 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T05:06:29 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-12T05:06:33 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@191.sub-75-233-211.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T05:07:11 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-12T05:21:19 < dongs> anyone remember/know GPS signal width around 1.5ghz? 2013-07-12T05:21:25 < dongs> is it like 2-4 mhz or soemtrhing? 2013-07-12T05:22:11 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T05:22:24 < zyp> probably less 2013-07-12T05:22:51 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-12T05:22:59 < zyp> it's spread spectrum, so maybe not 2013-07-12T05:23:20 < dongs> im looking at bandpass filter 2013-07-12T05:23:24 < dongs> some are 2 some are 4mhz 2013-07-12T05:23:32 < dongs> for gps crap 2013-07-12T05:23:45 < dongs> the 4mhz ones are nrnd 2013-07-12T05:24:28 < zyp> ah, well, if it's intended for gps then it's probably good 2013-07-12T05:27:45 < dongs> http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/saw/sf14_gps_e.pdf 2013-07-12T05:29:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T05:48:40 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-240-187.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-12T06:08:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-12T06:08:42 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:11:31 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:13:21 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-12T06:14:44 < upgrdman> the photo in that pdf looks like some scrubbed chinese rebrand :/ 2013-07-12T06:15:05 < upgrdman> poorly done too, like with a dremel or someshit 2013-07-12T06:25:31 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-12T06:27:05 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:28:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-12T06:32:16 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-159-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:35:28 < R2COM> http://imageshack.us/a/img839/2240/cwi3.png 2013-07-12T06:35:33 < R2COM> http://imageshack.us/a/img545/3968/lc2a.png 2013-07-12T06:35:39 < R2COM> http://imageshack.us/a/img189/5871/89m6.jpg 2013-07-12T06:35:44 < R2COM> http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4052/8l2y.jpg 2013-07-12T06:35:51 < R2COM> http://imageshack.us/a/img547/4621/u0ot.jpg 2013-07-12T06:36:16 < emeb_mac> cool 2013-07-12T06:37:11 < emeb_mac> what is it? 2013-07-12T06:37:31 < R2COM> basically it is a rugged breakout for stm32f407 2013-07-12T06:37:42 < R2COM> most digital IOs for output 2013-07-12T06:37:45 < R2COM> with TIM3/4 2013-07-12T06:37:46 < R2COM> TIM1 2013-07-12T06:37:58 < R2COM> +accelerometer, 2/4/8/16g selecatable 2013-07-12T06:38:00 < emeb_mac> cpld? 2013-07-12T06:38:04 < R2COM> + gyroscope 2013-07-12T06:38:10 < R2COM> 32MB onboard SPI flash 2013-07-12T06:38:18 < emeb_mac> pressure sensor? 2013-07-12T06:38:23 < R2COM> CPLD to multiplex between 2 8-bit IO channels 2013-07-12T06:38:32 < R2COM> broken out SLAVE SPI3 2013-07-12T06:38:39 < R2COM> +0-150PSI pressure senspor 2013-07-12T06:38:45 < R2COM> 1 control led 2013-07-12T06:38:47 < R2COM> 1 control button 2013-07-12T06:38:58 < R2COM> 3 USART channels broken out as well 2013-07-12T06:39:08 < R2COM> all stuff broken out is buffered additionally 2013-07-12T06:39:24 < R2COM> + level converter to make 5V logic from output of Multiplexor CPLD 2013-07-12T06:39:36 < R2COM> and all components within industrial temp. range 2013-07-12T06:39:49 < emeb_mac> why the extra vias around the traces along the bottom? 2013-07-12T06:40:17 < R2COM> I am going to experiment with analog inputs with such big length of trace 2013-07-12T06:40:32 < R2COM> so decided to separate them, because there are lots of toggling traces with digital singals around 2013-07-12T06:40:49 < emeb_mac> ya 2013-07-12T06:40:54 < R2COM> well... + additional matching done on board 2013-07-12T06:41:02 < R2COM> for higher speed over Ribbon 100Ohm cable 2013-07-12T06:41:04 < emeb_mac> how many layers? 2013-07-12T06:41:07 < R2COM> 4 2013-07-12T06:41:29 < R2COM> I tested it already, all sensors and memory works 2013-07-12T06:41:56 < emeb_mac> nice 2013-07-12T06:42:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:43:00 < R2COM> 2.43 x 6.9" 2013-07-12T06:43:14 < R2COM> not that big, and kind of light weight actually, even with all those connectors 2013-07-12T06:44:19 < R2COM> it is some sort of tool/development board... see lots of jumpers for buffer on/off as well. 2013-07-12T06:44:33 < emeb_mac> 3A LDO - where's all the current going? 2013-07-12T06:44:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-12T06:44:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:44:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-12T06:45:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T06:46:14 < emeb_mac> whoops - fatfingered the IRC client. 2013-07-12T06:46:14 < R2COM> I approximated the very worst theoretical scenarion with fast IO on long ribbon cables main consumption should add up to maybe 1.9A or so 2013-07-12T06:46:55 < R2COM> so I selected this LDO... 1.9-2A is absolutely super max theoretical...in fact its not going to be like that practically 2013-07-12T06:47:06 < emeb_mac> Ah. 2013-07-12T06:47:14 < emeb_mac> and even those high levels are transient 2013-07-12T06:47:59 < R2COM> well no...they are what being composed of vcc current of buffers 2013-07-12T06:48:04 < R2COM> each buffer 24mA 2013-07-12T06:48:06 < R2COM> 4 channels 2013-07-12T06:48:33 < R2COM> + voltage converted and its different ports also about same 2013-07-12T06:48:35 < emeb_mac> got it. 2013-07-12T06:48:53 < R2COM> but again the supply rating was derated by about 50% for sure.. which is ok 2013-07-12T06:49:12 < R2COM> there are two LDOs 2013-07-12T06:49:16 < R2COM> one for 1.8v cpld 2013-07-12T06:49:19 < emeb_mac> sounds pretty robust 2013-07-12T06:49:25 < R2COM> but that consumption is very small for cpld 2013-07-12T06:50:46 < R2COM> well and PCB material: FR408 2013-07-12T06:51:02 < R2COM> which was not quite needed actually, but well thats what I chosen 2013-07-12T06:52:57 < emeb_mac> so what's the application? 2013-07-12T06:54:59 < R2COM> it will be used in several tests like some inertial measurements, and control of external things like magnets, motor drivers, switches 2013-07-12T06:55:40 < R2COM> mainly will be used as a tool, to aid in some mechanical experiments 2013-07-12T06:56:34 < dongs> R2COM: who did you pay to pcba that 2013-07-12T06:56:37 < dongs> obviosuly that wasnt you 2013-07-12T06:56:51 < R2COM> pay for what? 2013-07-12T06:56:55 < R2COM> who payed for pcb? 2013-07-12T06:56:59 < dongs> assembly. 2013-07-12T06:57:09 < R2COM> I did assembly just hour ago finished 2013-07-12T06:57:28 < dongs> stencil?> 2013-07-12T06:57:32 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-12T06:57:46 < R2COM> stencil was not the coolest one, just regular 5 mil polymer 2013-07-12T06:58:27 < R2COM> it was a bit thick... I usually use 3 mil stencil 2013-07-12T06:58:31 < R2COM> this 5 mil stencil was too big 2013-07-12T06:58:37 < R2COM> too much paste for fine pitch components 2013-07-12T06:58:52 < R2COM> which results in shorts, which are not that hard to remove...but still 2013-07-12T06:59:03 < R2COM> 3 mil stencil thickness is ideal 2013-07-12T07:00:09 < dongs> k im gonna grab some of these neo6m shits 2013-07-12T07:05:15 < emeb_mac> neo6m? 2013-07-12T07:05:49 < zyp> ublox 2013-07-12T07:10:57 < emeb_mac> zyp: what did you use on your copter board? 2013-07-12T07:11:12 < zyp> that antenova module 2013-07-12T07:11:17 < zyp> the one based on ublox 2013-07-12T07:11:31 < R2COM> by the way 2013-07-12T07:11:39 < R2COM> all that amateur shit for RC remote 2013-07-12T07:11:48 < R2COM> its all relatively close range right? 2013-07-12T07:12:00 < R2COM> I mean you cant control it for say... 20 miles apart 2013-07-12T07:12:02 < R2COM> or something? 2013-07-12T07:12:05 < zyp> right 2013-07-12T07:12:09 < R2COM> all those fancy looking remotes? 2013-07-12T07:12:40 < R2COM> I am not quite sure for legal limitations for power 2013-07-12T07:12:44 < R2COM> on different frequencies 2013-07-12T07:12:49 < R2COM> its actually in fcc table 2013-07-12T07:13:17 < R2COM> well on 20 miles you wont see anything anyhow...unless you got telemetry with good video 2013-07-12T07:13:32 < R2COM> which will make system more expencive because you have to transmit more data fast 2013-07-12T07:13:46 < zyp> people make special long range stuff for that 2013-07-12T07:14:08 < R2COM> are there any nice packages for telemetry for long range for sale? 2013-07-12T07:14:14 < R2COM> what I saw was kinda light so far... 2013-07-12T07:14:25 < R2COM> (unless very professional equipment for military etc...) 2013-07-12T07:14:59 < zyp> everything I've seen looks like shit 2013-07-12T07:15:26 < zyp> I mean, video-stuff 2013-07-12T07:17:33 < dongs> zyp, there are some new single-chip DVB-T/ISDB modulators now 2013-07-12T07:17:45 < englishman> R2COM: record is 111km there-and-back 222km total 2013-07-12T07:17:48 < dongs> can do some HD video for rc trash 2013-07-12T07:30:49 < coon> is there a way doing 32 bit time mesurements? 2013-07-12T07:31:12 < coon> there are only 16 bit timers :( 2013-07-12T07:32:33 < dongs> ? 2013-07-12T07:33:07 < zyp> you can chain multiple timers 2013-07-12T07:33:16 < zyp> and newer stm32s also have 32-bit timers 2013-07-12T07:33:20 < dongs> or you can just toggle something in overflow 2013-07-12T07:33:25 < dongs> for higher bits 2013-07-12T07:33:29 < dongs> not sure what you mean by "measure" 2013-07-12T07:33:44 < zyp> dongs, that's what chaining does, except in hardware 2013-07-12T07:34:10 < dongs> for 165bit tuners. 2013-07-12T07:34:12 < dongs> er 2013-07-12T07:34:13 < dongs> timers 2013-07-12T07:34:15 < dongs> is that the masterslave shit? 2013-07-12T07:34:31 < zyp> no 2013-07-12T07:34:37 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-12T07:34:50 < zyp> master/slave is for controlling start/stop of one timer from output compare of another 2013-07-12T07:36:39 < dongs> o rite 2013-07-12T07:36:43 < dongs> i used that in osdongs 2013-07-12T07:36:57 < dongs> didnt use chaining for anything yet. 2013-07-12T07:37:45 < R2COM> now its gym time 2013-07-12T07:39:41 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@191.sub-75-233-211.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-12T07:43:17 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-159-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-12T07:51:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-12T08:00:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T08:03:54 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-12T08:05:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-12T08:05:14 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T08:08:27 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-67-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T08:15:37 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Quit: Life is too short] 2013-07-12T08:17:17 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T08:20:28 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T08:22:45 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-12T08:22:55 < dongs> R2COM would be excited. I just ordered some 0402 caps for like $7/reel 2013-07-12T08:25:18 < dongs> and some 0.01uF 2013-07-12T08:25:25 < dongs> samsung awesome quality. 2013-07-12T08:26:31 < emeb_mac> wonder if I can hand solder 0402 2013-07-12T08:26:45 < emeb_mac> 0603 is no prob. 2013-07-12T08:28:02 < dongs> um i dont remember last time i tried 2013-07-12T08:28:11 < dongs> with proper tweezers i dont thikn it'd be an issue 2013-07-12T08:28:19 < emeb_mac> yeah 2013-07-12T08:28:29 < emeb_mac> I've got very fine point tweezers 2013-07-12T08:28:36 < emeb_mac> needle-sharp 2013-07-12T08:30:58 < moarmoar_> dongs, you are offered a job in RUSNANO 2013-07-12T08:34:16 < dongs> does the job involve holding dicks 2013-07-12T08:34:24 < dongs> because i'd hate to give up my current one thats mostly that 2013-07-12T08:35:46 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/C82q09c.jpg cool oval holes bro 2013-07-12T08:39:23 < emeb_mac> for a USB connector. 2013-07-12T08:41:56 < emeb_mac> wish OSHpark did oval / slot thru-holes. 2013-07-12T08:42:05 < emeb_mac> got a couple designs that could use that. 2013-07-12T08:43:22 < jef79m> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4Rupla11M 2013-07-12T08:43:32 < jef79m> wrong channel, but whatever. 2013-07-12T08:44:15 < zyp> that footprint looks familiar 2013-07-12T08:44:29 < zyp> except mine has round holes 2013-07-12T08:47:47 < emeb_mac> ditto 2013-07-12T09:04:27 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-12T09:05:12 < coon> dongs: i want to measure the elapsed time to make some kind of asynchronoues delay 2013-07-12T09:05:26 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T09:05:39 < coon> but 65565 microseconds are just too few 2013-07-12T09:06:05 < coon> i will just read more about this overflow stuff 2013-07-12T09:06:10 < zyp> and you need it in microsecond resolution? 2013-07-12T09:06:42 < coon> i think 500 - 800 microseconds would also be fine 2013-07-12T09:06:56 < zyp> then just set the prescaler accordingly? 2013-07-12T09:07:00 < coon> i am playing a midi file 2013-07-12T09:07:21 < coon> it is no fixed delay 2013-07-12T09:07:40 < coon> is changing timer parameters expensive? 2013-07-12T09:07:54 < zyp> no 2013-07-12T09:08:03 < coon> hm, maybe i try that 2013-07-12T09:30:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T09:41:22 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T09:54:35 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T09:55:23 < R2COM1> what 2013-07-12T09:55:38 < R2COM1> haha... 2013-07-12T09:55:43 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-12T09:56:05 < R2COM> and about 0402, well yeah reel doesnt cost that much for such caps 2013-07-12T09:56:20 < R2COM> usually rf caps are more costly, I use ones from johanson electronics 2013-07-12T09:57:05 < R2COM> I really like them a lot, because most of the time when I design some high speed circuit, and simulate it with their precise models provided for Agilent's sim, and then build circuit, it has almost same response in freq. domain 2013-07-12T09:57:38 < R2COM> and when I used some cheapshit... like "million for few $" ... I had to fuck around in order to get a precise response almost as in simulation 2013-07-12T09:58:00 < R2COM> and most of the time no models provided either... 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LIVE. AGAINNNNNN! (An Evil Dead reference, peons :P :) 2013-07-12T12:43:30 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T12:58:29 -!- claude is now known as Claude 2013-07-12T13:07:11 < akaWolf> baird: cool film ) 2013-07-12T13:11:32 < baird> I had a housemate ~15 years ago whose name was "Bruce Campbell"-- he had no idea of the film at the time, but that gap in his life experience was quickly filled. :) 2013-07-12T13:12:17 < baird> ...then he was like, "I'm buying a chainsaw!" :D 2013-07-12T13:17:47 -!- jon__ [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T13:18:14 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-12T13:18:14 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-12T13:18:15 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T13:28:29 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T13:29:25 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-12T13:29:55 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T13:43:04 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T13:50:27 < akaWolf> baird: and shotgun, yeah ) 2013-07-12T13:55:54 < dongs> sup chatspace 2013-07-12T13:56:24 < dongs> < R2COM> usually rf caps are more costly, I use ones from johanson electronics 2013-07-12T13:56:31 < dongs> I bought a 0.5pF johanson cap once 2013-07-12T13:56:35 < dongs> it was liek $2 for 0603 cap 2013-07-12T13:56:37 < dongs> ridiculous trash 2013-07-12T14:25:52 < dongs> http://gnagsta.com/files/2012/03/364-floppy-disk-gangsta-way-of-storing-dem-filez.jpg 2013-07-12T14:29:13 < Laurenceb> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uyeayelpbvugafe/IMG_20130712_113207.jpg 2013-07-12T14:29:33 < dongs> dropbox?????????????? 2013-07-12T14:29:44 < dongs> haha fail on faila 2013-07-12T14:30:47 < Blok> Is there a way to disable the stm32 indy watchdog timer once enabled? Not the smartest thing to do, but still. 2013-07-12T14:31:55 < Laurenceb> http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/ 2013-07-12T14:31:57 < dongs> probabl by reet only? 2013-07-12T14:31:58 < dongs> reset 2013-07-12T14:33:36 < Blok> I want to run my program and be protected by the indy watchdog and then sleep for ~300 s without a timeout causing reset. What is the proper way? 2013-07-12T14:35:00 < dongs> low-power sleep? 2013-07-12T14:35:09 < dongs> then read watchdog part in RM, maybe it gets disable during sleep 2013-07-12T14:38:51 < Blok> it is running in deep sleep 2013-07-12T14:39:25 < Blok> I can wake up every 10 s just to reload the counter, but that will impact battery life quite a bit 2013-07-12T14:39:39 < Blok> probably by 1% or so :) 2013-07-12T14:39:45 < zyp> then don't use the watchdog. 2013-07-12T14:40:50 < zyp> the watchdog can't be stopped once started without reset 2013-07-12T14:41:24 < zyp> the usual way to solve it is to «reset to sleep» 2013-07-12T14:41:35 < dongs> hm good idea. 2013-07-12T14:41:49 < Blok> zyp: yup, sounds good, thanks 2013-07-12T14:41:50 < zyp> set a flag that indicates that you want to sleep, then check it in reset handler before enabling watchdog 2013-07-12T14:41:55 < dongs> set a flag in bkp ram, reboot, check it on reset and goto sleep 2013-07-12T14:41:59 < dongs> without enabling wd 2013-07-12T14:42:07 < dongs> aye 2013-07-12T14:42:11 < dongs> zyp is always full of awesome. 2013-07-12T14:42:15 < Blok> :) 2013-07-12T14:42:47 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/pMu0PjP.jpg 2013-07-12T14:42:52 -!- karlp_ is now known as karlp 2013-07-12T14:43:10 < zyp> hmm? 2013-07-12T14:43:30 < dongs> emmc + sdcard breakout for it 2013-07-12T14:43:59 < zyp> and avr smartcard? :p 2013-07-12T14:44:04 < dongs> well sure 2013-07-12T14:44:05 < Thorn> why the serpentine 2013-07-12T14:44:21 < Thorn> is it that fast 2013-07-12T14:44:45 < dongs> emmc is like over 9000mhz 2013-07-12T14:47:34 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T14:51:27 < Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/12/spears_launch/ 2013-07-12T14:52:36 < dongs> lol more uslees lohan trash 2013-07-12T14:52:47 < dongs> Laurenceb: why arent those clowns employing you to unfail them 2013-07-12T14:52:51 < dongs> rapeberry pi??? 2013-07-12T14:53:07 < Laurenceb> its just fail central over 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same timer? 2013-07-12T17:13:56 < zyp> of course 2013-07-12T17:15:05 < talsit> hmm... will have to use TIM3 then 2013-07-12T17:15:20 < talsit> TIM1 shares those CH1 & CH2 pins with USART1 on the stm32f0 2013-07-12T17:15:43 < talsit> though i could move usart1 to portb 2013-07-12T17:16:02 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T17:16:56 < talsit> zyp: thanks 2013-07-12T17:29:47 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-116-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T17:37:36 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-12T17:37:37 < dongs> talsit: status of receiving paste 2013-07-12T17:38:49 < talsit> is that a question or a statement? 2013-07-12T17:39:24 < iR0b0t1> It's actually a phrase 2013-07-12T17:39:30 < iR0b0t1> you might interpret it as an implied question, however 2013-07-12T17:40:02 < talsit> CoD sometime next week 2013-07-12T17:40:26 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a94-133-36-163.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-12T17:42:36 -!- _BJFreeman 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2013-07-13T02:35:03 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T02:46:57 < BrainDamage> dongs_: retweeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sOdP8b1bIY 2013-07-13T02:51:05 < emeb> Oops - someone in the production dept. is going to get a talking-to. 2013-07-13T02:52:40 < dongs_> haha 2013-07-13T02:52:43 -!- dongs_ is now known as dongs 2013-07-13T02:55:34 < dongs> wow why havnet i heard of this 2013-07-13T02:55:51 < emeb> ? 2013-07-13T02:57:24 < dongs> the gookair flight crash 2013-07-13T02:57:35 < emeb> you been living in a cave? 2013-07-13T02:57:41 < dongs> apparentlty 2013-07-13T02:59:03 < emeb> lasers... yeah, that's the ticket. lasers made him do it. 2013-07-13T03:00:44 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:05:57 < HTT-Bird> dongs: you mean Asiana 214? 2013-07-13T03:06:41 < dongs> yea 2013-07-13T03:06:47 < dongs> first time hearing about it 2013-07-13T03:06:54 < dongs> furiosuly reading well-researched wikipedo article 2013-07-13T03:07:46 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-13T03:10:16 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@30.sub-75-196-10.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:10:21 < dongs> Two of the inflatable chutes expanded into the cabin rather than out onto the tarmac. The first chute, which blocked the forward right exit, nearly suffocated a flight attendant and was deflated by a pilot with a crash ax from the cockpit. 2013-07-13T03:10:24 < dongs> lol 2013-07-13T03:10:41 < baird> Wasn't shot down by the Russians this time. 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2013-07-13T03:28:42 < R2COM> I thought its SWD-only it seems like its not 2013-07-13T03:29:17 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@14.sub-75-233-139.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T03:30:16 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-13T03:32:14 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@245.sub-75-233-52.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:32:28 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:33:09 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T03:39:34 < R2COM> ok driver installed 2013-07-13T03:39:48 < R2COM> now it looks like I have to do: target extended-remote COM14? 2013-07-13T03:43:56 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@153.sub-75-196-18.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:44:22 < R2COM> because COM14 appears as BlackMagic gdb server 2013-07-13T03:44:22 < R2COM> its telling me that no such file or directory 2013-07-13T03:44:23 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:44:52 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest71470 2013-07-13T03:44:57 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T03:46:09 -!- Guest71470 [~bjfree@245.sub-75-233-52.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T03:46:55 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:48:08 < R2COM> hmm strange it seems like it cannot find BMP 2013-07-13T03:48:27 < R2COM> although I installed its windows drivers 2013-07-13T03:48:43 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-13T03:49:14 < dongs> what is "it" 2013-07-13T03:49:22 < dongs> also since hwen does BMP come with signed 64bit drivers? 2013-07-13T03:49:54 < R2COM> "it" is gdb 2013-07-13T03:49:58 < R2COM> I am using win7 2013-07-13T03:50:10 < R2COM> it doesnt need *signed* driver, during innstall you can say "install anyway" 2013-07-13T03:50:11 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@153.sub-75-196-18.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T03:50:37 < gxti> bmp is just usb cdc, except maybe the bootloader 2013-07-13T03:50:53 < R2COM> (gdb) target extended COM13 2013-07-13T03:50:54 < R2COM> COM13: No such file or directory. 2013-07-13T03:50:54 < R2COM> (gdb) target extended COM14 2013-07-13T03:50:54 < R2COM> COM14: No such file or directory. 2013-07-13T03:50:54 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-13T03:50:57 < gxti> i really hope windows doesn't need a signature just to say some pid should use an existing driver 2013-07-13T03:51:04 < R2COM> COM14 shown in my devices list as BMP gdb server 2013-07-13T03:51:12 < R2COM> and COM13 shown as UART 2013-07-13T03:51:15 < dongs> R2COM: 13??????? 2013-07-13T03:51:20 < dongs> change it to something less retarded 2013-07-13T03:51:21 < R2COM> I cannot connect to COM14 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < R2COM> why change? 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < gxti> i think my COM numbers are up to 70 something lol, testing crapton of usb devices 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < dongs> beacuse nobody fucking uses COM13 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < R2COM> its assigned automatically 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < dongs> then change it to COM2 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < dongs> or 3 2013-07-13T03:52:01 < gxti> stopped using microcrap and started using ftdi, they have a registry thing to not remember old devices 2013-07-13T03:52:04 < gxti> someday i gotta go clean them out 2013-07-13T03:52:10 < dongs> ?????????????????????????????????????? 2013-07-13T03:52:52 < R2COM> what ever 2013-07-13T03:52:58 < R2COM> changing to COM1 didnt help either 2013-07-13T03:52:59 < R2COM> same shit 2013-07-13T03:53:07 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-13T03:53:41 < R2COM> drivers seemed to install without problem 2013-07-13T03:53:51 < R2COM> its just this shit cannot be recognized by gdb 2013-07-13T03:54:11 < R2COM> for now I connected just that dongle, without target board 2013-07-13T03:54:16 < gxti> i haven't tried bmp on windows so i'm afriad i don't have much advice 2013-07-13T03:54:16 < R2COM> is it fine by the way? 2013-07-13T03:54:44 < R2COM> uhhhhh 2013-07-13T03:55:06 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@208.sub-75-244-133.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T03:55:09 < R2COM> on linux you just do this: target extended-remote /dev/ttyACM0 ? 2013-07-13T03:55:14 < gxti> yep 2013-07-13T03:55:26 < R2COM> I'm using at this wikin now https://pixhawk.ethz.ch/px4/dev/jtag/black_magic_probe 2013-07-13T03:55:38 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T03:55:42 < R2COM> it says: target extended NAME_OF_SERIAL_PORT_GOES_HERE 2013-07-13T03:55:51 < R2COM> thats what I do as you see, and shit doesnt get recognized 2013-07-13T03:56:37 < R2COM> and the original homepage of bmp doesnt have any fucking example for proper connection 2013-07-13T03:56:48 < R2COM> so I'm not sure if its my error now or something wrong anywhere else 2013-07-13T03:56:57 < gxti> maybe try some serial terminal software 2013-07-13T03:57:07 < R2COM> why that? 2013-07-13T03:57:13 < R2COM> you supposed to connect from gdb... 2013-07-13T03:57:19 < gxti> troubleshooting 2013-07-13T03:57:35 < R2COM> troubleshooting of what? 2013-07-13T03:57:35 < gxti> when you attach it'll barf some stuff in your terminal, then you know at least the bmp is fine and gdb is not 2013-07-13T03:57:56 < R2COM> gbd is definitely fine, because I used it with texane server it connects and programs stm32f4 devices 2013-07-13T03:58:07 < R2COM> theres no problem with my gdb 2013-07-13T03:58:12 < gxti> that's tcp, not serial 2013-07-13T03:58:35 < R2COM> well I changed port to COM1, with which I used other stuff too before, it also works fine 2013-07-13T03:59:01 < R2COM> oh 2013-07-13T03:59:05 < gxti> also note that the bmp has TWO serial ports, one is just a dumb uart you can connect to your board 2013-07-13T03:59:07 < R2COM> I pressed tiny button on bmp 2013-07-13T03:59:09 < R2COM> and now tried 2013-07-13T03:59:11 < R2COM> seems it connected 2013-07-13T03:59:27 < R2COM> (gdb) target extended COM1 2013-07-13T03:59:27 < R2COM> Remote debugging using COM1 2013-07-13T03:59:27 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-13T03:59:34 < R2COM> hmmmm 2013-07-13T03:59:39 < emeb> attach_swd 2013-07-13T03:59:46 < gxti> button is for bootloader, did you have it pressed when you plugged it in or something? 2013-07-13T03:59:55 < R2COM> no it wasnt pressed 2013-07-13T04:00:06 < emeb> is the red led lit? 2013-07-13T04:00:09 < R2COM> its just I pressed it once 2013-07-13T04:00:15 < R2COM> and after that tried connecting from gdb again 2013-07-13T04:00:17 < R2COM> and it connected 2013-07-13T04:00:17 < emeb> that tells you when it's in bootloader mode 2013-07-13T04:00:22 < R2COM> I have only yellow and green ON 2013-07-13T04:00:27 < emeb> sounds right 2013-07-13T04:00:42 < R2COM> Ill try again 2013-07-13T04:00:45 < R2COM> disconnect and again 2013-07-13T04:01:23 < R2COM> hmm yea worked 2013-07-13T04:01:40 < R2COM> (gdb) target extended COM1 2013-07-13T04:01:40 < R2COM> Remote debugging using COM1 2013-07-13T04:01:40 < R2COM> (gdb) attach_swd 2013-07-13T04:01:40 < R2COM> Undefined command: "attach_swd". Try "help". 2013-07-13T04:01:40 < R2COM> (gdb) 2013-07-13T04:01:53 < R2COM> undefined command? 2013-07-13T04:02:43 < gxti> just look at wiki, last section shows how to attach 2013-07-13T04:03:13 < emeb> sorry - that's a macro in my .gdbinit 2013-07-13T04:03:34 < emeb> you want:mon swdp_scan 2013-07-13T04:03:42 < emeb> attach 1 2013-07-13T04:04:01 < R2COM> well ok 2013-07-13T04:04:06 < R2COM> now I need to add target board... 2013-07-13T04:04:20 < R2COM> problem is... my connectors for SWD are standard 0.1" lol 2013-07-13T04:04:54 < emeb> yeah 2013-07-13T04:05:03 < R2COM> and standard pins just dont fit in there 2013-07-13T04:05:13 < emeb> I hacked up a converter cable from the 2mm header to the 0.1" socket. 2013-07-13T04:05:21 < R2COM> you cut it? 2013-07-13T04:05:26 < R2COM> or made small breakout bopard 2013-07-13T04:05:41 < emeb> I bought some spare cables from an online outfit and cut one of those. 2013-07-13T04:06:15 < emeb> dongs probably has a link for those little cables - he pointed me to them originally. 2013-07-13T04:06:45 < R2COM> i cant find it on website which sells bmp 2013-07-13T04:06:59 < zyp> emeb, you mean 1.27mm? 2013-07-13T04:07:03 < emeb> they may sell them, but they probably charge. 2013-07-13T04:07:06 < emeb> zyp: yeah. 2013-07-13T04:07:08 < emeb> 50mil 2013-07-13T04:07:30 < talsit> which of the stm32 family would have the most USART/UART? 2013-07-13T04:07:31 < zyp> let me check, I think I originally pointed dongs to them 2013-07-13T04:07:33 < talsit> F3? 2013-07-13T04:08:06 < zyp> talsit, any Fxx7 I'd think 2013-07-13T04:08:23 < R2COM> or maybe I should just cut this grey cable which came with BMP 2013-07-13T04:08:26 < R2COM> I have it 2013-07-13T04:08:58 < emeb> go for it - you can always buy more if you need 'em 2013-07-13T04:09:04 < R2COM> yeah 2013-07-13T04:09:10 < zyp> http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=4517 2013-07-13T04:09:20 < emeb> ^ this 2013-07-13T04:09:36 < R2COM> thanks 2013-07-13T04:09:45 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-13T04:10:03 < R2COM> on some future board I maybe will just do similar F- connector for that cable 2013-07-13T04:10:09 < R2COM> will actually economy space too 2013-07-13T04:10:19 < R2COM> if I'll like this dongle... 2013-07-13T04:10:27 < talsit> zyp: i'll look into them, but the f303 looks like it has 5 in a 48pin package :) 2013-07-13T04:10:39 < zyp> heh, ok 2013-07-13T04:10:49 < talsit> R2COM: what about tag-connect? 2013-07-13T04:10:56 < R2COM> what? 2013-07-13T04:11:20 < talsit> the tag-connect has a very small footprint 2013-07-13T04:11:47 < R2COM> i dont care, this one is already small enough for me 2013-07-13T04:11:48 < talsit> maybe i just came late to the conversation 2013-07-13T04:11:49 < emeb> R2COM: those little 50mil 10-pin headers are nice - easy to use and you can get them with keys to prevent misconnections. 2013-07-13T04:11:56 < zyp> I was thinking about buying a tag connect cable, but I don't like being raped on shipping 2013-07-13T04:12:18 < dongs> my irc ee pro pal uses tag conect on everything 2013-07-13T04:12:18 < zyp> and I second emeb 2013-07-13T04:12:28 < dongs> he has a breakout board with various jtag/shits all terminating into a tag connect 2013-07-13T04:12:30 < R2COM> zyp: ask your Earl to pay for it xD 2013-07-13T04:12:31 < emeb> I put them on my little F3 breakouts: http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/stm32f373breakout/f3_breakout_v04_sm.jpg 2013-07-13T04:12:50 < gxti> i think digibutt and friends have them but not all of them, so maybe not with your favorite connector on the end 2013-07-13T04:12:56 < talsit> emeb: that's a nice board, is it yours? 2013-07-13T04:13:02 < emeb> talsit: yep 2013-07-13T04:13:19 < zyp> gxti, yeah, they don't have the cortex variant, and I don't want to ghetto it up either 2013-07-13T04:13:25 < R2COM> http://imageshack.us/a/img189/5871/89m6.jpg 2013-07-13T04:13:29 < R2COM> heres my SWD breakout 2013-07-13T04:13:33 < R2COM> bottome left 2013-07-13T04:13:37 < R2COM> 6 pin..more than needed 2013-07-13T04:13:40 < dongs> pfft, mine is way nicer http://abusemark.com/store/images/stm32_dev.jpg 2013-07-13T04:13:43 < R2COM> basically as appeared on discovery board 2013-07-13T04:14:32 < emeb> dongs: your's has some sort of mems gizmo on it too? 2013-07-13T04:14:38 < emeb> or is that a loader MCU? 2013-07-13T04:14:57 < emeb> ah - usb/serial 2013-07-13T04:15:00 < dongs> nah just usbserial 2013-07-13T04:15:03 < gxti> i think it's some kind of doll 2013-07-13T04:15:10 < gxti> :p 2013-07-13T04:15:16 < emeb> no, that's dongs. 2013-07-13T04:15:27 < emeb> on the internet no one knows you're a plastic figurine. 2013-07-13T04:15:42 < R2COM> right 2013-07-13T04:15:47 < R2COM> I dont exist at all for example 2013-07-13T04:15:57 < R2COM> at least on earth 2013-07-13T04:16:01 < dongs> I keep forgetting, which needs gate pulldown is it NPN or nfet 2013-07-13T04:16:01 < dongs> nfet right? 2013-07-13T04:16:03 < emeb> ghost in the machine? 2013-07-13T04:16:12 < R2COM> yea 2013-07-13T04:16:28 < R2COM> on earth yea.. 2013-07-13T04:16:30 < gxti> dongs: which is driven by voltage vs current? 2013-07-13T04:16:41 < emeb> dongs: depends on what's driving it 2013-07-13T04:17:05 < gxti> something driven by voltage might need a pulldown, something driven by current just needs to have no current flowing to stay off. 2013-07-13T04:17:17 < BrainDamage> if we want to be super picky 2013-07-13T04:17:20 < dongs> eh i duno its just gpio pin going to npn 2013-07-13T04:17:22 < BrainDamage> bjt are voltage devices too 2013-07-13T04:17:35 < dongs> via like 100R 2013-07-13T04:17:36 < BrainDamage> just both base & collector follow the sam exp 2013-07-13T04:17:44 < dongs> i think i setup the shit so i can uses npn or nfet 2013-07-13T04:17:46 < BrainDamage> so it simplifies and becomes linear in current 2013-07-13T04:17:52 < dongs> so ill NC the 10k pulldown for npn 2013-07-13T04:18:03 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-13T04:19:51 < R2COM> when i disconnect and quit gdb while bmp is plugged, red is flashing, thats what it should be? 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aiming for overkill, don't we? 2013-07-13T04:24:26 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T04:24:27 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T04:24:38 < gxti> apparently. 2013-07-13T04:24:58 < R2COM> for those who ask such basic questions...it doesnt seem to be overkill... 2013-07-13T04:25:12 < R2COM> apperently... 2013-07-13T04:26:28 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T04:26:28 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T04:28:09 < BrainDamage> unrelated: http://i.imgur.com/3qxEAxy.jpg 2013-07-13T04:28:29 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T04:28:30 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T04:29:02 < gxti> anyone used any fun camera modules lately? thinking about making a dash cam or something 2013-07-13T04:29:18 < dongs> i used wahteverf trash came with my wavesahre F2 kit 2013-07-13T04:29:31 < dongs> and it had a sample of piping it to fsmc attached lcd 2013-07-13T04:29:36 < dongs> thats as far as i went 2013-07-13T04:29:53 < gxti> probably not stm32 doing encoding or storage (on sata, lol) but maybe for the camera part 2013-07-13T04:29:54 < dongs> it was some OVxxx sensor 2013-07-13T04:30:05 < dongs> why doint you just buy a $40 chinese dashcam 2013-07-13T04:30:13 < dongs> seems to be less effort./$ 2013-07-13T04:30:25 < gxti> because i'm bored 2013-07-13T04:30:36 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T04:30:37 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T04:30:41 < gxti> and then i'd have ugly chinese trash on my dashboard 2013-07-13T04:30:47 < R2COM> isnt GoPRo shit considered hot nowadays or what? 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2013-07-13T04:58:53 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T04:58:54 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T05:00:27 < gxti> i turned joins/quits off for this channel months ago. 2013-07-13T05:00:55 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T05:00:55 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T05:02:24 < dongs> talsit: i have 2013-07-13T05:02:32 < dongs> but manually picking stuff 2013-07-13T05:02:36 < dongs> not using their shtity predefined stuff 2013-07-13T05:02:56 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T05:02:57 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-13T05:03:31 < talsit> what predefined stuff? i'm just choosing peripherals 2013-07-13T05:03:51 < dongs> right 2013-07-13T05:03:55 < talsit> just wanted to know why PWM-Generation needs 2 pins on some timers 2013-07-13T05:03:55 < dongs> but on the left you can click groups of them 2013-07-13T05:04:02 < dongs> .. thats t he part thats trash 2013-07-13T05:04:07 < dongs> i just manually assign stuff to pins. 2013-07-13T05:04:27 < talsit> it helps to find out if the MCU i want can do all the things i need 2013-07-13T05:04:37 < dongs> datasheet helps with that. 2013-07-13T05:04:57 -!- Tectu [tectu@irc.ipv6.kunsmann.eu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T05:05:23 < talsit> yep, and so does this tool, but, the PWM question, do you know why? 2013-07-13T05:05:49 < dongs> no fucking idea 2013-07-13T05:05:55 < talsit> eg: TIM9, if you choose PWM-Generation, it uses CH1 AND CH2 2013-07-13T05:06:02 < dongs> i said, peripheral selection on that shit is buggy 2013-07-13T05:07:04 < talsit> ok, np 2013-07-13T05:07:49 < talsit> wow, the f2 series is expensive 2013-07-13T05:15:21 * HTT-Bird duct tapes Tectu's internet 2013-07-13T05:15:43 < upgrdman_> whats neat about the f2? 2013-07-13T05:16:19 < talsit> upgrdman_: dunno, just checking different STM32Fx to see which fits my purpose 2013-07-13T05:17:28 < talsit> i can probably get away with a F051, 48pin 2013-07-13T05:18:56 < talsit> even the 32pin one, looks like it 2013-07-13T05:19:18 < upgrdman_> DAMN ... $21 stm32 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM32F417IGT6/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtOXy69nW9rMxbhSXvu2kNRzjXqL343NHk%3d 2013-07-13T05:19:41 < talsit> that is the one with the crypto engine, right? 2013-07-13T05:20:11 < talsit> i need 2pwm, 3encoders, 1usart, osc & swd 2013-07-13T05:21:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T05:21:34 < upgrdman_> for encoders, why not extis? 2013-07-13T05:21:51 < dongs> ... 2013-07-13T05:21:56 < dongs> because its fucking free with timers 2013-07-13T05:22:06 < dongs> and no cpu overhead 2013-07-13T05:22:22 < talsit> yeah, it's on timers 2013-07-13T05:22:34 < upgrdman_> sure, but he's looking at $ 2013-07-13T05:23:06 < dongs> if hes worried about $ he can just buy F103's from waveshare for $2.xx/ea 2013-07-13T05:24:01 < dongs> F103 LQFP48 will be cheaper than any oddball non-standard size F0 especially in small qty 2013-07-13T05:24:09 < dongs> because everyone uses F103 and noone uses F05 stuff 2013-07-13T05:24:23 < dongs> F0 is only "cheap" if you buy 10k at a time 2013-07-13T05:24:55 < upgrdman_> wonder what kind of break 10k or 100k gets 2013-07-13T05:25:32 < talsit> the f051 fits my bill, and it's $3 on mouser 2013-07-13T05:25:46 < talsit> and i wasn't looking at $$$, i was just surprised at F2's cost, that's all 2013-07-13T05:28:22 < upgrdman_> f050 < $2 on mouser for 10+. not bad... hmmm 2013-07-13T05:29:41 < talsit> and i have F051 i can test with 2013-07-13T05:29:52 < talsit> i just need 3.3v ball-bearing encoders :S 2013-07-13T05:30:11 < upgrdman_> bb encoders? 2013-07-13T05:30:36 < talsit> rotary encoders mounted on ballbearings 2013-07-13T05:31:18 < upgrdman_> wouldnt it usually be the other way around? stationary encoder, rotating thinggy 2013-07-13T05:32:03 < talsit> yeah, that, just one that the shaft is as frictionless as possible 2013-07-13T05:32:09 < talsit> but everything i've seen is 5v 2013-07-13T05:32:15 < upgrdman_> ohh. ok 2013-07-13T05:32:16 < talsit> it "works" at 3.3v, but... 2013-07-13T05:32:26 < upgrdman_> ? optical? 2013-07-13T05:32:33 < upgrdman_> hall-effect? 2013-07-13T05:33:07 < talsit> i like optical 2013-07-13T05:33:26 < upgrdman_> and it wants 5v? IR LEDs doesn't make much 2013-07-13T05:33:48 < talsit> i know, but that's what the datasheet says 2013-07-13T05:33:53 < upgrdman_> ok 2013-07-13T05:34:00 < talsit> i mean, i use them at 3.3v, but i prefer to get native 3.3v ones 2013-07-13T05:37:24 < upgrdman_> rm says interrupt priority is settable for more isrs... but how? 2013-07-13T05:46:20 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T05:58:36 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-94-36-243-164.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T06:02:22 < R2COM> so it seems to me that stm32 is kind of leader based on price-performance criteria among similar class controllers huh 2013-07-13T06:07:30 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-13T06:07:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T06:14:39 < emeb_mac> it certainly seems to have more goodies / $ than most 2013-07-13T06:21:02 < dongs> then people go and still use oddball trash like nuvoton or nxp 2013-07-13T06:21:14 < dongs> i remembver this nuvoton trash i dicked with had like nothing useful on it 2013-07-13T06:21:14 < HTT-Bird> NXP has some advantages in package availability 2013-07-13T06:21:24 < dongs> not even DMA 2013-07-13T06:21:27 < HTT-Bird> the STM32s do have a better peripheral set though 2013-07-13T06:21:34 < dongs> HTT-Bird: like what 2013-07-13T06:21:39 < HTT-Bird> HOWEVER: neither of them do particularly well for low power 2013-07-13T06:21:47 < dongs> i think more standard pin compatible packages is better 2013-07-13T06:21:52 < dongs> than more choices that noone wants 2013-07-13T06:21:56 < HTT-Bird> dongs: I don't think you can get any of the STM32s in something besides QFN or QFP 2013-07-13T06:22:07 < dongs> you can certainly get them in QFN 2013-07-13T06:22:12 < HTT-Bird> nor do they have low pin count packages 2013-07-13T06:22:22 < dongs> there's M0 with 32qfn or so. 2013-07-13T06:22:27 < HTT-Bird> for jobs where you don't need a bunch of I/O 2013-07-13T06:22:32 < dongs> sure 2013-07-13T06:22:32 < HTT-Bird> *nods* 2013-07-13T06:22:37 < dongs> or there's 64wlcsp 2013-07-13T06:22:39 < dongs> enjoy soldering that. 2013-07-13T06:22:42 < HTT-Bird> haha 2013-07-13T06:23:00 < dongs> finally loaded that stm32 devboard into dicknplace too 2013-07-13T06:23:05 < dongs> now i dont have to fucking hand-assemble that trash 2013-07-13T06:23:17 < HTT-Bird> my real frustration is that neither the STM32L nor the NXPs have really good low-power numbers on the table 2013-07-13T06:47:09 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-13T06:49:03 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T06:49:18 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T07:07:20 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-13T07:27:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T07:27:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-13T07:27:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T07:44:44 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T08:03:42 < gnomad> are you looking at marketing numbers or measured numbers? 2013-07-13T08:20:43 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@98.230.217.221] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T08:23:13 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-13T08:35:14 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.147] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T08:39:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-13T08:56:03 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-13T09:26:07 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T09:30:12 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@143.sub-75-233-251.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T09:30:44 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T09:37:56 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-13T09:39:43 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-190-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T09:42:36 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@143.sub-75-233-251.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-13T09:55:59 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-13T10:05:45 < jpa-> HTT-Bird: if you just lower the clock frequency, you'll get stm32l down to pretty low current 2013-07-13T10:06:02 < jpa-> IMO the problem is more about poor software support for dynamic clock scaling 2013-07-13T10:35:23 < dongs> chatzone 2013-07-13T11:00:37 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T11:02:18 < talsit> hmm... QFN & LQFP have the same pitch 2013-07-13T11:02:34 < talsit> looks like i'm gonna go qfn 2013-07-13T11:04:16 < dongs> dumb. 2013-07-13T11:04:26 < dongs> qfn is shit to work wiht + route 2013-07-13T11:05:36 < talsit> meh, it's not that bad 2013-07-13T11:06:02 < talsit> i would rather take that extra bit of pain for the convenience 2013-07-13T11:06:12 < talsit> i don't want/need 48pins 2013-07-13T11:06:22 < talsit> the F0 comes in LQFP48 or QFN32 2013-07-13T11:06:31 < talsit> i'll see 2013-07-13T11:10:37 < dongs> is ther any reason youre not just using F103C8 or CB? 2013-07-13T11:12:02 < talsit> the 48pin package only has 4 timers 2013-07-13T11:12:05 < talsit> i would like 5 2013-07-13T11:12:18 < dongs> and F0 has 5? 2013-07-13T11:12:36 < talsit> 7 2013-07-13T11:12:44 < talsit> even in 32pin package 2013-07-13T11:13:12 < talsit> i'm looking at 3 encoder inputs and 2 pwm outputs + 1 usart & 2 buttons 2013-07-13T11:13:43 < talsit> i think i can go the 48pin LQFP 2013-07-13T11:13:53 < dongs> ... 2013-07-13T11:13:53 < talsit> my connectors will be the biggest thing 2013-07-13T11:14:07 < dongs> TIM2-4 = encoder inputs, TIm1 = 4 PWM outputs 2013-07-13T11:14:16 < dongs> what the fuck do you need 7 timers for? 2013-07-13T11:14:23 < talsit> i don't, i need 5 2013-07-13T11:14:39 < dongs> i just listed only 4 that you need. 2013-07-13T11:15:26 < dongs> plus you can probably use unused ch3/4 from each encoder timer to do other crap 2013-07-13T11:15:34 < dongs> but if you cant, youve got 3-4 pwm outputs onTIM1. 2013-07-13T11:15:36 < talsit> i can't really use TIM1 if i'mu using USART1 too 2013-07-13T11:15:41 < dongs> ? 2013-07-13T11:15:43 < dongs> says who 2013-07-13T11:15:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.132.150] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T11:16:15 -!- DanteA [~X@host-175-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T11:16:20 < talsit> i need to leave usart on PA8/9 for bootloading 2013-07-13T11:16:37 < dongs> yes and? 2013-07-13T11:16:44 < dongs> that leaves 3 TIM1 channels 2013-07-13T11:16:51 < dongs> or 4 even, i am too lazy to look at datasheet 2013-07-13T11:16:51 < talsit> are you still talking about f0 or f1? 2013-07-13T11:16:55 < dongs> f1 2013-07-13T11:17:01 < talsit> i was looking at f0 2013-07-13T11:17:05 < talsit> lemme look at f1 2013-07-13T11:17:05 < dongs> f0 makes no sense in any application unless you're making 10k of something 2013-07-13T11:17:14 < talsit> why not? 2013-07-13T11:17:26 < talsit> (serious question, i don't really know the differences) 2013-07-13T11:17:38 < dongs> because. f103. costs. same. as. f0. unless. youre. buying. 10k. of. f0. 2013-07-13T11:17:49 < dongs> i only repeated that like 10 times today. 2013-07-13T11:18:01 < talsit> but i don't care about ~$3 2013-07-13T11:18:07 < dongs> on F1, you get TIM1_CH1 + CH4 while keeping usart at PA8/9 2013-07-13T11:18:16 < talsit> my connectors for this project are going to come to about $150 per box! 2013-07-13T11:18:17 < dongs> then why are you using a inferior part 2013-07-13T11:18:37 < dongs> F0 = Cortex M0, no divide instruction, etc. 2013-07-13T11:18:41 < jpa-> f0 missing division instruction is quite annoying 2013-07-13T11:18:51 < talsit> ok, that's a good reason 2013-07-13T11:18:52 < jpa-> L1 is nice, F1 is okish 2013-07-13T11:19:38 < jpa-> also, unless your encoder speed is very very fast, doing it with EXTI is quite ok also 2013-07-13T11:22:24 < talsit> crap, i'm looking at the f105/107 datasheet, no wonder things aren't making sense 2013-07-13T11:25:16 < talsit> looks like a lot of the TIM1 is missing from the 48 pin package 2013-07-13T11:25:34 < talsit> for what this is doing, it doesn't need to divide 2013-07-13T11:25:54 < talsit> just read 3 encoders, combine them into a single packet, send them over serial 2013-07-13T11:28:32 < talsit> oh, and blink 2 LED's 2013-07-13T11:30:25 < dongs> i just did some encoder to uart crap couple weeks ago and got paid something like 5k for it 2013-07-13T11:30:46 < talsit> 5000 yen? 2013-07-13T11:30:51 < dongs> no, usd 2013-07-13T11:30:56 < talsit> that's good then 2013-07-13T11:31:06 < dongs> 5k yen is fucking nothing i wouldnt be blogging about that. 2013-07-13T11:31:17 < talsit> hey, you're in japan, who knows 2013-07-13T11:32:33 < talsit> what industry was it for? 2013-07-13T11:33:10 < dongs> i duno it was some weird shit. sony magnetic(?) position encoder and they wanted output to go to some custom WinCE trash 2013-07-13T11:33:18 < dongs> something to do with metal melting 2013-07-13T11:33:27 < dongs> industrial crap 2013-07-13T11:40:17 < dongs> http://www.qsprecision.com/catalog/i18.html 2013-07-13T11:40:19 < dongs> this sensor 2013-07-13T11:41:26 < talsit> 5microns, nice 2013-07-13T11:41:45 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@98.230.217.221] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-13T11:42:43 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T11:47:31 < dongs> high precision blogging 2013-07-13T11:50:27 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T11:52:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T11:53:46 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 2013-07-13T12:16:33 < talsit> why is SWDIO called SWDAT on the F0? 2013-07-13T12:17:23 < dongs> because its same thing 2013-07-13T12:17:44 < talsit> so why the name change? 2013-07-13T12:20:41 <+Steffanx> For L1 they also use SWDAT 2013-07-13T12:22:08 <+Steffanx> I guess ST doesn't like to use the 'official' ARM pin/signal names anymore 2013-07-13T12:22:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.132.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-13T12:22:36 < jpa-> Steffanx: it reads SWDIO in my STM32L151 datasheet 2013-07-13T12:24:34 <+Steffanx> STM32L15xx6/8/B ? 2013-07-13T12:26:24 <+Steffanx> Doc ID 17659 Rev 8 says SWDAT, mr jpa- 2013-07-13T12:29:39 < talsit> awesome, bournes has new encoders out, 3.3v native! 2013-07-13T12:30:08 <+Steffanx> New and available? 2013-07-13T12:30:38 < talsit> yep and yep 2013-07-13T12:30:48 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T12:31:21 < talsit> and smaller 2013-07-13T12:31:34 < talsit> and a lot better IP rating, and half price 2013-07-13T12:31:42 < talsit> my god, this is like xmas! 2013-07-13T12:33:20 <+Steffanx> jpa- so which rev. of the datasheet you have? 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Where? 2013-07-13T13:44:00 < dongs> Internal Server Error - Read 2013-07-13T13:44:01 < dongs> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. 2013-07-13T13:44:04 < dongs> search is busted 2013-07-13T13:44:09 <+Steffanx> Ohm, yeah 2013-07-13T13:44:22 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=-863&y=-73&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=dongs 2013-07-13T13:44:45 < dongs> i was searching for dongs and boom, down 2013-07-13T13:47:07 < dongs> still down 2013-07-13T13:47:15 < dongs> this is dumb i cant continue working 2013-07-13T13:47:35 <+Steffanx> it's weekend.. enjoy it 2013-07-13T13:59:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T14:47:12 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-13T14:51:55 <+Steffanx> Whoa, digikey has some serious problems i guess, dongs 2013-07-13T14:52:37 < effractur> lol 2013-07-13T14:57:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.128.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T15:00:45 <+Steffanx> oh, effractur is still here :P 2013-07-13T15:06:30 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T15:08:26 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-13T15:08:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T15:19:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-13T15:22:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T15:24:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-89-249.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-13T15:28:39 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T15:29:13 < Laurenceb_> back in UK land 2013-07-13T15:29:21 < Laurenceb_> what a shithole 2013-07-13T15:30:41 < Laurenceb_> theres even arduinos falling out of the sky 2013-07-13T15:34:04 < effractur> i think if you created a easy to use ide a lot of people would switch 2013-07-13T15:53:33 -!- DanteA [~X@host-175-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-13T15:53:39 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.237] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T15:54:22 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T15:57:01 -!- zetaz [~arno@188.194.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T16:02:46 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-13T16:08:04 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-76-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T16:14:48 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-190-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-13T16:36:43 -!- flop [~kvirc@CPE00222de26418-CM00222de26415.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T16:36:44 -!- flop|2 [~kvirc@CPE00222de26418-CM00222de26415.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T16:39:00 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-242-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T16:54:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-13T17:06:04 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@187.sub-75-196-120.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T17:06:41 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T17:07:14 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-242-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T17:10:16 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-13T17:13:50 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T17:24:54 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-144-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T17:42:30 -!- flop [~kvirc@CPE00222de26418-CM00222de26415.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-13T17:42:30 -!- flop|2 [~kvirc@CPE00222de26418-CM00222de26415.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-13T17:42:54 -!- [1]arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T17:46:01 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-13T17:46:02 -!- [1]arnonh is now known as arnonh 2013-07-13T17:51:38 < Activate_for_mor> 2013-07-13T18:01:55 < Vutral> hm 2013-07-13T18:02:00 < effractur> are there anywhere online some good docs about dma /dma width stm32f4? 2013-07-13T18:02:05 < Vutral> someone ever configured both can peripherials 2013-07-13T18:03:10 < Vutral> the stm32f4 manual impleis you can configure both peripherials 2013-07-13T18:03:12 < Vutral> somehow useful ^^ 2013-07-13T18:13:24 < Posterdati> ùhi 2013-07-13T18:16:43 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T18:17:20 < Posterdati> please I need help to implement an sd-card driver for stm32f107... Thank you for any help 2013-07-13T18:17:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T18:18:36 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-76-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-13T18:20:48 < Posterdati> stm32f107 hasn't got the SDIO peripherals, only SPI... 2013-07-13T18:24:06 -!- [1]arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T18:24:10 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.131] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T18:26:58 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-13T18:26:58 -!- [1]arnonh is now known as arnonh 2013-07-13T18:29:27 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T18:29:42 < jpa-> Posterdati: just take the driver that comes with fatfs 2013-07-13T18:29:54 < jpa-> and add the spi recv/send functions for STM32 2013-07-13T18:30:22 < Posterdati> jpa-: where I can found that? 2013-07-13T18:30:40 < jpa-> can't remember, looks somewhat like this https://svn.kapsi.fi/jpa/paatti/mmc.c 2013-07-13T18:30:51 < arnonh> does any one know any non american(the shipping is too expencive) and perfably chinis reputable electronics store 2013-07-13T18:32:46 < Posterdati> rs 2013-07-13T18:35:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.249.112] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T18:52:36 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-13T18:57:10 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-76-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T18:57:23 < arnonh> rs components are vary expencive 2013-07-13T18:57:26 < arnonh> here 2013-07-13T19:07:50 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T19:12:30 <+Steffanx> arnonh, ebay :P 2013-07-13T19:13:53 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T19:18:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T19:24:12 < arnonh> thanks (sorry for my bad spelling i just noticed now) 2013-07-13T19:25:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T19:43:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:00:07 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-144-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-13T20:00:38 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T20:01:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T20:05:18 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:08:39 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.131] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:15:02 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-13T20:24:45 < Tectu> the table which shows which peripheral is which AF is in the datasheet, not the reference manual, right? 2013-07-13T20:25:03 < zyp> yesp 2013-07-13T20:25:45 < Tectu> some more scrolling then :) 2013-07-13T20:26:10 < zyp> get a pdf reader with TOC support 2013-07-13T20:26:48 < zyp> for linux that would probably be evince 2013-07-13T20:27:07 < Tectu> what's TOC? 2013-07-13T20:27:11 < Tectu> actually I am using evince since a few days 2013-07-13T20:27:18 < zyp> table of contents 2013-07-13T20:27:21 < Tectu> aah 2013-07-13T20:27:22 < zyp> all ST pdfs have it 2013-07-13T20:27:31 < Tectu> good point... 2013-07-13T20:46:10 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-13T20:47:46 < gxti> for some reason evince doesn't always render the TOC if the file is read-only like when your browser opens it 2013-07-13T20:47:52 < gxti> so try saving it somewhere then opening it 2013-07-13T20:48:18 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@187.sub-75-196-120.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T20:48:35 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@81.174.155.46] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:51:00 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.126] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:51:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:51:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-13T20:51:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:51:58 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@4.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:55:32 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-13T20:55:51 -!- mugi [~bjfree@63.sub-75-196-70.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:56:44 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@4.sub-75-244-182.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T20:58:14 -!- mugi [~bjfree@63.sub-75-196-70.myvzw.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-13T20:58:41 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@63.sub-75-196-70.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T20:59:49 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T21:04:14 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@63.sub-75-196-70.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T21:04:49 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest45936 2013-07-13T21:04:54 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T21:06:38 -!- Guest45936 [~bjfree@63.sub-75-196-70.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T21:10:18 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@63.sub-75-196-70.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-13T21:14:02 -!- zetaz [~arno@188.194.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-13T21:16:53 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-13T21:17:48 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@42.sub-75-233-103.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T21:18:21 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-13T21:34:36 -!- Nutter [~Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [] 2013-07-13T21:35:43 -!- Nutter [~Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T22:21:24 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@81.174.155.46] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-13T22:43:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-235-208.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T22:54:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-13T22:59:34 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T23:03:01 -!- Avi [~Avi@c122-107-128-37.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T23:04:57 < Avi> so im using an stm32f4 discovery board with keil uvision arm-mdk, tried to make a blank template, followed the getting started pdf, and i get this compile error .\project.axf: Error: L6218E: Undefined symbol SystemInit (referred from startup_stm32f40xx.o). (i did not write that file, its part of keil i presume) 2013-07-13T23:05:28 < Avi> and now i am stuck 2013-07-13T23:07:25 <+Steffanx> Add the file to your project that defines SystemInit :) 2013-07-13T23:07:43 <+Steffanx> It's in some file provided by the stm32 peripheral lib iirc 2013-07-13T23:08:19 <+Steffanx> oh lol you know you could've googled it Avi? :) 2013-07-13T23:08:23 <+Steffanx> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12889732/undefined-symbol-systeminitreferred-from-startup-stm32f2xx-o-while-building-us <= 2013-07-13T23:08:58 < Avi> i did paste the message into google, i came to 1 forum thread wiuth no onclusion 2013-07-13T23:09:22 < Avi> hm 2013-07-13T23:09:25 < Avi> *looks* 2013-07-13T23:10:02 <+Steffanx> You have to select the right file for the f4 of course 2013-07-13T23:10:39 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T23:14:34 < Avi> so maybe i need to add these 2013-07-13T23:14:37 < Avi> ./Libraries/CMSIS/ST/STM32F4xx/Include/system_stm32f4xx.h 2013-07-13T23:14:38 < Avi> ./Libraries/CMSIS/ST/STM32F4xx/Source/Templates/system_stm32f4xx.c 2013-07-13T23:20:01 < Avi> now i got 31 errors, guess it wasnt that 2013-07-13T23:23:04 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-13T23:25:30 <+Steffanx> what kind of errors? 2013-07-13T23:29:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.249.112] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-13T23:34:50 < Avi> more undefindes 2013-07-13T23:39:18 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-13T23:43:31 < karlp> someone tell R2COM about this when he gets back: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q115831 (stupid windows com ports) 2013-07-13T23:44:06 < karlp> \\.\COM13 because moah \s! 2013-07-13T23:45:33 < Thorn> $(GDB) -ex "target extended-remote \\\\.\\$(BMP_PORT)" 2013-07-13T23:46:37 < gxti> windoze 2013-07-13T23:47:25 <+Steffanx> Hi gxti 2013-07-13T23:48:10 < gxti> why hello there mr Steffanx 2013-07-13T23:59:28 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Day changed Sun Jul 14 2013 2013-07-14T00:17:19 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-76-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-14T00:26:32 < effractur> hi is there a breakout thingy for in ealge? 2013-07-14T00:26:38 < effractur> eagle* 2013-07-14T00:26:47 < effractur> for the stm32f4 discovery 2013-07-14T00:27:13 < jpa-> isn't stm32f4 a breakout in itself? 2013-07-14T00:27:19 < jpa-> *stm32f4 discovery 2013-07-14T00:27:44 < effractur> it is but i want to make like a shield thingy 2013-07-14T00:27:52 < Avi> same 2013-07-14T00:28:03 < jpa-> oh well, two pin headers 2013-07-14T00:28:06 < Avi> but i would probably just get out my rulr and do it myself 2013-07-14T00:28:11 < effractur> yes but the spacing etc 2013-07-14T00:28:22 < effractur> i don't want to messup etc 2013-07-14T00:28:39 < jpa-> yet you would trust a random file from the internet :) 2013-07-14T00:28:43 < Avi> well use the dps with the mechanical layout then 2013-07-14T00:28:46 < Avi> err 2013-07-14T00:28:47 < Avi> pdf 2013-07-14T00:29:11 < effractur> mm alright then i will have to do it with the pdfs from stm 2013-07-14T00:29:17 < jpa-> simplest way to check any footprint: print the board out, place part over the paper 2013-07-14T00:29:30 < Avi> UM1472 down the bottom 2013-07-14T00:29:53 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T00:40:27 <+Steffanx> You suddenly showed up, so.. i said hi, gxti 2013-07-14T00:42:47 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T00:44:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T00:44:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-14T00:44:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T00:44:31 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T00:44:33 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-14T00:44:40 -!- Avi [~Avi@c122-107-128-37.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-14T00:46:01 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-235-208.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-14T00:46:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T00:47:33 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-235-208.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T00:55:49 -!- luke1 [~luke@cnh8092115140.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-14T01:04:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-14T01:09:27 < effractur> mm no ealge files for the drv8832 2013-07-14T01:12:24 <+Steffanx> Just read some tutorial on how to do it, it's easy 2013-07-14T01:15:22 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-14T01:19:22 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T01:32:53 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-14T01:36:21 < gnomad> you know, there really needs to be a library of *verified* eagle components... 2013-07-14T01:37:00 < effractur> Steffanx: y it is quite easy 2013-07-14T01:43:10 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-14T01:48:51 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T01:54:21 < jpa-> gnomad: too bad that the world is so full of parts.. 90% of my component errors have been in parts that i have entered myself, anyway 2013-07-14T01:57:00 < gxti> i have yet to screw up a footprint i made myself 2013-07-14T01:57:56 < gxti> although i've chosen the wrong one entirely on two occasions 2013-07-14T01:58:39 < gxti> and once designed the board right, then bought the wrong part even though the BOM was marked correctly. no more 1am ordering. 2013-07-14T02:06:52 < jpa-> yes.. mistakes i can remember: choosing wrong footprint; choosing right footprint with wrong pin numbering (wtf, inverted sot-23 numbers); choosing package with wrong pitch; choosing package with wrong width (SOT/SOP/SO/SOW wtf); making pads too short 2013-07-14T02:07:28 < gxti> stupid wide SOICs! 2013-07-14T02:07:33 < jpa-> indeed 2013-07-14T02:07:53 < gxti> was easy to ghettorig though, just soldered some wire from the wide pad to the not-wide ic :p 2013-07-14T02:08:57 < jpa-> in my case, i bend the leads of the wide ic to fit the not-wide pads :) 2013-07-14T02:09:04 < jpa-> *bent 2013-07-14T02:09:10 < gxti> turn it into a j-lead? :p 2013-07-14T02:10:09 < jpa-> almost :P 2013-07-14T02:12:13 < zyp> I just picked a random SOT-223 vreg footprint once, figuring that they were probably the same for all 2013-07-14T02:12:38 < zyp> they were not, and it didn't fit the most common pattern 2013-07-14T02:13:16 < zyp> which is why dongs were raging about that when he built one of my lpc boards 2013-07-14T02:15:31 < jpa-> on one very trivial board for work, which had like 4 parts, i managed to have two of them backwards 2013-07-14T02:15:59 < jpa-> but i blame kicad for making it too easy to pick wrong packages; and dongs will approve my blame :P 2013-07-14T02:16:17 < gxti> the other footprint screwup from the soic one was due to kicad 2013-07-14T02:16:43 < gxti> but also because that was literally the first board i designed and i didn't know what 'sop' or 'ssop' or 'tssop' were 2013-07-14T02:16:55 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-14T02:17:11 < Laurenceb_> i just screwed up a batch of boards with wrong sot-223 reg 2013-07-14T02:17:23 < Laurenceb_> going to have to be fixed by hard 2013-07-14T02:17:26 < Laurenceb_> *hand 2013-07-14T02:20:43 < Vutral> lol 2013-07-14T02:20:58 < Laurenceb_> i mean look at the instagram crap 2013-07-14T02:21:04 < Vutral> if no pins are configured for can 2013-07-14T02:21:09 < Laurenceb_> i cant see wtf is going on 2013-07-14T02:21:53 < Laurenceb_> oops wrong window 2013-07-14T02:22:00 < Laurenceb_> just raging elsewhere 2013-07-14T02:22:28 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T02:34:02 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@42.sub-75-233-103.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-14T02:42:40 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.126] has quit [Quit: /quit /quit /quit /quit ......] 2013-07-14T02:54:50 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T02:57:10 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T02:58:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-14T02:59:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T02:59:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-14T03:07:54 -!- Gargantuasauce_ [~Gargantua@115.23.228.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-14T03:11:34 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T03:24:13 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-14T03:30:59 < dongs> attn Laurenceb https://twitter.com/TooRacist/status/355917074389946368/photo/1 2013-07-14T03:39:09 < talsit> if i'm using PA14 normally for SWCLK, for development, programming & debugging 2013-07-14T03:39:25 < talsit> can i also use it for the bootloader in USART2 config? 2013-07-14T03:40:39 < dongs> ? 2013-07-14T03:40:44 < dongs> F1? 2013-07-14T03:40:49 < dongs> bootloader only works on USART1 2013-07-14T03:40:59 < dongs> ther'es a bootloader appnote 2013-07-14T03:41:03 < dongs> that coversrr all possible combinations 2013-07-14T03:41:17 < dongs> AN2606 2013-07-14T03:42:27 < talsit> f0 2013-07-14T03:42:40 < gxti> talsit: it's usually unwise to put anything on swd port if you can help it 2013-07-14T03:43:13 < gxti> assuming you turn swd off upon entering bootloader then back on when exiting, what do you think happens when you try to attach debugger then reset? 2013-07-14T03:43:53 < talsit> yeah, i also realise that i'm going to need the same usart for bootloading and for running, so that idea is out anyway 2013-07-14T03:44:10 < talsit> i guess i'm doing encoders in EXTI! 2013-07-14T03:44:46 < talsit> f0 & f1 share USART1 on TIM1 on PA9/10 2013-07-14T03:44:55 < talsit> which is the bootloader ones 2013-07-14T03:45:37 < talsit> lets have a look at f2 2013-07-14T03:47:16 < talsit> i really dislike using a 64pin package for only 17 pins (+11 housekeeping) 2013-07-14T03:51:20 < dongs> talsit: ? you dont need to use TIM1 for encoders. 2013-07-14T03:51:30 < dongs> TIM1 on F1 leaves you with 2 PWM i/o with uart on. 2013-07-14T03:51:35 < dongs> CH1 and CH4 2013-07-14T03:51:44 < dongs> and CH1/2 of 2,3,4 are free for encoders. 2013-07-14T04:34:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T04:36:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T04:40:55 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T04:42:13 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-14T04:45:51 -!- talsit1 [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T04:48:09 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-14T04:48:17 -!- talsit1 is now known as talsit 2013-07-14T04:51:15 < talsit> dongs: i missed encoder on TIM4 2013-07-14T04:52:19 < talsit> on the f1 2013-07-14T04:53:32 < talsit> yeah i may have to F1 it 2013-07-14T04:56:14 < dongs> pretty sdure all general purpose timers will do encoder 2013-07-14T04:58:25 < talsit> i can't use any 48pin for it though 2013-07-14T04:58:40 < talsit> if i have the requirement of USART1 on PA9/10, 2013-07-14T04:58:40 < dongs> > 2013-07-14T04:58:47 < dongs> waht 2013-07-14T04:58:53 < talsit> which is usually where TIM1's encoder interface is on 2013-07-14T04:59:12 < dongs> dude, TIM2/3/4 will give you 3 encoders 2013-07-14T04:59:16 < talsit> then i need another 3 general timers 2013-07-14T04:59:19 < dongs> and TIM1_CH1/4 will give you 2 pwm outputs. 2013-07-14T04:59:24 < talsit> exactly, on F1, 64pin 2013-07-14T04:59:29 < dongs> no, F1 48pin 2013-07-14T04:59:40 < talsit> which f1? 2013-07-14T04:59:46 < dongs> F103Cx.... 2013-07-14T05:02:07 < zyp> found a book for Laurenceb: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1884760074/ 2013-07-14T05:02:31 < zyp> http://www.amazon.com/lm/R1LXSLA3J5Y95W <- more on this list 2013-07-14T05:03:03 < talsit> dongs, so i can use 1 timer for independant PWM on 2 outputs? 2013-07-14T05:03:33 < dongs> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000W8OX6C/ seems related, zyp 2013-07-14T05:03:49 < dongs> talsit: define "independent"? it'll need to be same timebase/period, but duty can be different of course. 2013-07-14T05:04:20 < dongs> i.e. you run TIM1 at 1MHz and you have like 1000us period, then you can vary duty onCH1/4 from 0 to 1000us or wahever.individually. 2013-07-14T05:04:44 < talsit> yep, 2 PWM'd LED's 2013-07-14T05:04:49 < dongs> pfft 2013-07-14T05:05:35 < talsit> cool, i didn't know that 2013-07-14T05:07:24 < dongs> on F1 w/usart you can have 2+4+4+4 total PWM channels 2013-07-14T05:07:56 < dongs> 2 more if you dump usart and use native usb bootloader 2013-07-14T05:08:12 < dongs> maybe, i forget 2013-07-14T05:08:33 < dongs> no 2013-07-14T05:08:35 < dongs> +1 with usb 2013-07-14T05:08:42 < dongs> you lose TIM1_CH4 when USB is connected 2013-07-14T05:08:46 < talsit> nah, i want USART, mainly because i'm already bringing out USART on a connector 2013-07-14T05:10:58 < dongs> anyway if its just PWM leds, you can easily just use ch3/4 of encoder-reading shit 2013-07-14T05:11:01 < dongs> for oc out 2013-07-14T05:11:15 < dongs> so you can have like 8 fucking leds pwm'ing. 2013-07-14T05:11:19 < dongs> on that setup. 2013-07-14T05:11:38 < talsit> yep, the pwm isn't my concern, the encoder is, i wouldn't want to miss steps 2013-07-14T05:11:41 < dongs> you could blink while you blink. 2013-07-14T05:13:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-14T05:13:50 < talsit> so, looks like i'll be now using a stm32f103! 2013-07-14T05:15:35 < dongs> hte only sensible choice 2013-07-14T05:17:08 < talsit> can i use TIM1_CH1N as an input to encoder? or only CH1? 2013-07-14T05:17:26 < dongs> you wont be using TIM1 for encoder. 2013-07-14T05:17:38 < dongs> i just told you only ch1/4 are available because they'er sitting between usart 2013-07-14T05:17:49 < talsit> but could I? as in, i'd like to know more about the architecture 2013-07-14T05:17:52 < dongs> no 2013-07-14T05:18:00 < talsit> cool 2013-07-14T05:19:02 < dongs> N is just inverted output of Ch +deadtime 2013-07-14T05:19:05 < dongs> it has no input capability at all 2013-07-14T05:19:09 < dongs> look at RM FIgure 52 or so 2013-07-14T05:19:36 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T05:20:36 < dongs> also explains why encoder only works on CH1/2 2013-07-14T05:22:26 < talsit> ah... and explains why CHxN are outputs only, cool 2013-07-14T05:23:26 < talsit> so i can use the CH1N as PWM out? 2013-07-14T05:24:03 < dongs> if you dont mind it being opposite phase of CH1 sure 2013-07-14T05:24:15 < talsit> ah... PA8 can do TIM1_CH1 2013-07-14T05:24:51 < talsit> damm, i was looking for it in the wrong datasheet 2013-07-14T05:25:09 < dongs> you seem to have this problem a lot 2013-07-14T05:26:02 < talsit> well, i had this thing that i thought all F1's are the same 2013-07-14T05:26:04 < talsit> but no 2013-07-14T05:26:10 < talsit> hey, still new to this 2013-07-14T05:28:41 < talsit> why do i need a license to export the stm32f103c4t6a from the usa? 2013-07-14T05:30:12 < talsit> 700yen for the f103cb 2013-07-14T05:30:53 < dongs> no idea. 2013-07-14T05:30:54 < dongs> http://www.wvshare.com/product/STM32F103C8T6.html 2013-07-14T05:30:58 < dongs> C8 or CB 2013-07-14T05:31:53 < dongs> they can ship by SF Express, 20 bucks and it'll be there in 2 days. 2013-07-14T05:31:53 < talsit> cool 2013-07-14T05:31:59 < talsit> thx 2013-07-14T05:32:12 < talsit> and it's cool that the f1 has 1kb flash page size 2013-07-14T05:32:39 < talsit> i was thinking of using the last page as config 2013-07-14T05:32:59 < talsit> or maybe in sram and using a super-cap 2013-07-14T05:33:06 < talsit> that may be best actually 2013-07-14T05:33:35 < talsit> wait, i have to check if it has sram in battery backup domain thingy 2013-07-14T05:33:51 < dongs> it does 2013-07-14T05:33:52 < zyp> no, only a few bytes of backup sram 2013-07-14T05:34:00 < zyp> uh 2013-07-14T05:34:02 < dongs> ^ yea that 2013-07-14T05:34:07 < dongs> bkp ram 2013-07-14T05:34:21 < dongs> just use flash, its fine 2013-07-14T05:34:22 < zyp> no as in «main sram is not preserved on vbat» 2013-07-14T05:34:38 < dongs> yea. 2013-07-14T05:34:52 < zyp> I would not use backup sram for config 2013-07-14T05:34:53 < talsit> yeah, i think i'll only need about 8-10 bytes for backup 2013-07-14T05:35:28 < talsit> i actually want my config to be forgotten after an hour or two of no power 2013-07-14T05:36:36 < talsit> does the f1 have a battery-backed sram region like the stm32f4? 2013-07-14T05:37:04 < dongs> thats what we just told you 2013-07-14T05:38:30 < talsit> he said main sram 2013-07-14T05:39:22 < talsit> all this is good to know, cheers 2013-07-14T05:39:28 < dongs> < zyp> no as in «main sram is not preserved on vbat» 2013-07-14T05:39:35 < dongs> ^ 2013-07-14T05:39:40 < dongs> ^ 2013-07-14T05:40:05 < talsit> yeah, i know main sram won't be, i was then asking about a separate region 2013-07-14T05:40:57 < talsit> there doesn't seem to be a separate region 2013-07-14T05:41:03 < talsit> question answered 2013-07-14T05:45:32 < dongs> there is 2013-07-14T05:45:37 < dongs> its BKP registers. 2013-07-14T05:45:58 < zyp> talsit, you have 16 bytes or so 2013-07-14T05:46:12 < zyp> I think it's documented in the RTC chapter of the RM 2013-07-14T05:46:15 < dongs> 20-byte data registers (in medium-density and low-density devices) or 84-byte data 2013-07-14T05:46:18 < dongs> registers (in high-density, XL-density and connectivity line devices) 2013-07-14T05:46:21 < dongs> 20 2013-07-14T05:46:27 < zyp> oh 2013-07-14T05:46:35 < talsit> ah... i was looking for SRAM like in f4 2013-07-14T05:46:42 < talsit> no, it's a separate chapter in RM 2013-07-14T05:47:21 < zyp> what is the point of a config when you want it forgotten? :p 2013-07-14T05:47:41 < zyp> that sounds more like a semi-persistent state than config 2013-07-14T05:47:53 < zyp> which is just what bkp registers are for 2013-07-14T05:47:59 < talsit> yep, exactly 2013-07-14T05:48:32 < talsit> i need people to recalibrate if they disconnect the device 2013-07-14T05:48:33 < dongs> my chip1stop shit got delivered today 2013-07-14T05:48:35 < dongs> good times 2013-07-14T05:48:58 < talsit> but if they power-cycle and the power goes down for 1-2 mins, then i don't 2013-07-14T05:49:19 < talsit> but it's good to know! 2013-07-14T05:50:19 < dongs> good to dong 2013-07-14T05:50:21 < zyp> ah, then bkp registers is certainly a better solution than flash 2013-07-14T05:51:22 < zyp> dongs, been to seoul before? would you happen to know anything fun to do here? 2013-07-14T05:51:36 < zyp> I have the weekend off and I don't know what the fuck to do today 2013-07-14T05:51:41 < dongs> one of my jews is there. i doubt trhere's anything intresting. define "Fun" 2013-07-14T05:52:11 < zyp> something worth spending some time on 2013-07-14T05:52:35 < dongs> well, i mean, category 2013-07-14T05:52:43 < dongs> electronics? hookers? food? dicks? tec. 2013-07-14T05:52:44 < dongs> etc 2013-07-14T05:53:24 < zyp> I'll pass on hookers and dicks (and hookers with dicks) 2013-07-14T05:53:41 < dongs> thats the only good part :( 2013-07-14T05:54:43 < zyp> what about electronics? 2013-07-14T05:54:51 < dongs> did you already go to the seoul auto show shit? 2013-07-14T05:54:56 < dongs> i think that was yesterday might still be on today 2013-07-14T05:54:56 < zyp> no? 2013-07-14T05:55:01 < dongs> cars + chicks 2013-07-14T05:55:02 < dongs> duno if youre into that 2013-07-14T05:55:23 < dongs> shit that was last week i geuss 2013-07-14T05:55:44 < zyp> heh 2013-07-14T05:56:47 < zyp> I heard yongsan was the place to go for electronics 2013-07-14T05:57:13 < zyp> went there yesterday, but didn't find anything but people wanting to sell me shitty laptops 2013-07-14T05:57:20 < dongs> haha 2013-07-14T05:58:09 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FHxasn1.png pretty obvious why people go to that one 2013-07-14T05:58:28 < zyp> heh 2013-07-14T05:59:33 < gxti> anyone got custom anodized faceplates done before? 2013-07-14T05:59:48 < dongs> sure, local place here does htem but its not cheap 2013-07-14T06:00:22 < dongs> had custom milling + anodized + stencil text 2013-07-14T06:00:56 < gxti> i'm probably too cheap to really even look into this 2013-07-14T06:01:17 < dongs> why not get vinyl stickers 2013-07-14T06:01:25 < dongs> it should be way cheaper 2013-07-14T06:01:28 < gxti> still gotta drill the panel 2013-07-14T06:01:29 < dongs> like vinyl front panel stuff 2013-07-14T06:01:31 < dongs> yes 2013-07-14T06:01:37 < dongs> but thats cheaper :) 2013-07-14T06:01:53 < dongs> there's the usual opensauce crap frontpanels.com or so 2013-07-14T06:01:59 < dongs> something that all opensauce fags use 2013-07-14T06:02:02 < dongs> amybe you can afford it 2013-07-14T06:02:06 < talsit> dongs, i found japanese CNC super expensive 2013-07-14T06:02:12 < dongs> frontpanelexpress 2013-07-14T06:02:13 < talsit> getting mine done in UK 2013-07-14T06:02:14 < dongs> ^ that 2013-07-14T06:02:24 < dongs> talsit: for what? takachi does a decent job at reasonable price. 2013-07-14T06:02:28 < dongs> for cases/frontpanels. 2013-07-14T06:02:45 < talsit> enclosure, 145x65x30mm 2013-07-14T06:02:48 < dongs> uh 2013-07-14T06:02:50 < gxti> FPE costs too much, regrettably. maybe i can do it in plastic. 2013-07-14T06:03:01 < talsit> aluminium, anodised 2013-07-14T06:03:20 < dongs> yeah, around 15-20bucks from takachi probably 2013-07-14T06:03:23 < gxti> with ponoko or some other lollaser thing 2013-07-14T06:03:37 < talsit> i send off about 15 quote requests, and of the 7-8 i got back, they were at least 3-4 times the price of the uk place 2013-07-14T06:05:07 < dongs> protip for making cheap enclosures: design your PCB to fit into existing non-custom enclosure size. 2013-07-14T06:05:13 < gxti> i also tried emachineshop but their software is broken and can't get a quote 2013-07-14T06:05:17 < gxti> probably too expensive anyway 2013-07-14T06:05:34 < talsit> i hated emachineshops' software, it's just plain stupid 2013-07-14T06:05:43 < talsit> making this: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s19/sh/fba2d7ed-9ed9-4f04-b4fa-2e2fc778a86d/65a47b7678c70b7b0a5567f9336847c2 2013-07-14T06:06:30 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-14T06:06:40 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T06:07:36 < dongs> too much custom shit 2013-07-14T06:07:40 < gxti> presently i'm using a hammond extruded one, quite nice but costs too much 2013-07-14T06:07:42 < dongs> you shoulda made all i/o on a single panel 2013-07-14T06:07:49 < gxti> wish i could get the exact same thing in plastic 2013-07-14T06:08:45 < dongs> I forget who i sampled cases from in UK 2013-07-14T06:08:54 < dongs> but the quality was shit 2013-07-14T06:10:02 < dongs> talsit: what were you quoted to mill that mess? because that looks expensive as fuck 2013-07-14T06:10:16 < talsit> where? in the uk or here? 2013-07-14T06:10:19 < dongs> anywhere 2013-07-14T06:10:27 < dongs> it looks expensive to do anywhere because of all material waste 2013-07-14T06:10:46 < talsit> for 1-off, here, from 90,000 yen 2013-07-14T06:10:57 < dongs> yeah, thats about what I'd make you pay for that shit. 2013-07-14T06:10:58 < talsit> for 10-off, here, from 900,000 yen 2013-07-14T06:11:06 < gxti> looool 2013-07-14T06:11:14 < dongs> i was thinking 100k or so for a one off 2013-07-14T06:11:32 < talsit> in the uk, 1-off, 40,000 yen, 10-off 100,000 yen (equiv) 2013-07-14T06:12:26 < talsit> movie people love their custom-looking shit 2013-07-14T06:12:42 < talsit> anything that comes in a standard enclosure, they won't buy 2013-07-14T06:12:48 < talsit> elitist 2013-07-14T06:14:06 < talsit> cool, the f0 & f1 have very very similar footprint 2013-07-14T06:14:11 < dongs> put LCD + i/o + those color coded side shits into front panel pcb, use a narrow case w/front panel, connect io pcb to main w/angled board to board or fpc 2013-07-14T06:14:24 < dongs> then you onyl need to custom do front panel 2013-07-14T06:14:39 < dongs> your case cost goes from 40k to 4k (max) 2013-07-14T06:14:53 < talsit> maybe for v4 2013-07-14T06:14:57 < talsit> err... v2 2013-07-14T06:20:53 < dongs> zyp: jj club for hooking chicks 2013-07-14T06:21:05 < dongs> zyp: electornic shit = waste of time to shop, online only 2013-07-14T06:21:58 < dongs> zyp: http://i.imgur.com/LGL76X2.png here u go 2013-07-14T06:22:16 < dongs> also coex in gangnam if you want a new apple laptop 2013-07-14T06:22:26 < zyp> heh 2013-07-14T06:22:31 < dongs> (or are a faggot) 2013-07-14T06:22:32 < zyp> actually staying at coex 2013-07-14T06:22:35 < zyp> :p 2013-07-14T06:23:28 < zyp> I mean, the connected hotel 2013-07-14T06:23:34 < dongs> right 2013-07-14T06:23:42 < zyp> so I've already walked around the mall, didn't find anything interesting except food 2013-07-14T06:23:53 < dongs> lotte world? 2013-07-14T06:23:58 < gxti> lol, plastic hammond box with end panels is 1/4 the cost. just annoyed that i'm not going to be able to find something where i can use the same pcb for either. 2013-07-14T06:37:00 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-235-208.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T06:44:09 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T06:46:23 < talsit> unused pins? floating, ground or vcc? 2013-07-14T06:47:36 < gxti> input pullup 2013-07-14T06:47:40 < gxti> or down 2013-07-14T06:47:53 < talsit> but, physically? 2013-07-14T06:48:39 < talsit> leave them floating, right? 2013-07-14T06:48:54 < gxti> tie to ground is more immune to ESD but i wouldn't do it for a prototype 2013-07-14T06:49:00 < gxti> i've always just left floating 2013-07-14T06:49:38 < talsit> cool, cheers 2013-07-14T06:50:36 < gxti> and you can still set it to drive low in software when you're done 2013-07-14T06:51:00 < talsit> cool 2013-07-14T06:56:39 < dongs> i just set unused shit as AIN 2013-07-14T06:58:45 < zippe> Aren't the analog in's limited to 3v3? 2013-07-14T06:59:03 < zippe> Better to set them to digital in, pulled down. 2013-07-14T06:59:12 < zippe> That's the lowest-current configuration. 2013-07-14T07:00:10 < dongs> well, they're unused anyway. 2013-07-14T07:00:10 < dongs> there was some appnote or someshit 2013-07-14T07:00:22 < dongs> to reduce current consumption + noise+wahtever 2013-07-14T07:00:23 < dongs> set to ain 2013-07-14T07:02:27 < dongs> /* Configure all unused GPIO port pins in Analog Input mode (floating input trigger OFF), this will reduce the power consumption and increase the device immunity against EMI/EMC *************************************************/ 2013-07-14T07:02:35 < dongs> this was copypasted across ab unch of ST samples 2013-07-14T07:02:54 < dongs> i think there was a link somewhere explaining why too, I remember reading it but too lazy to find now 2013-07-14T07:04:20 < gxti> that would be optimal *if* the pin was externally grounded 2013-07-14T07:04:43 < gxti> but still ok anyway 2013-07-14T07:17:20 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@115.sub-75-233-101.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T07:17:55 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-14T07:29:00 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T07:48:30 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@115.sub-75-233-101.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-14T08:58:56 -!- luke1 [~luke@cnh809211622.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T08:59:09 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T09:16:16 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T09:27:50 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-14T09:38:37 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-78-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T09:51:41 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-78-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-14T09:53:48 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-133-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T10:05:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@24.49.207.140] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T10:23:06 < dongs> who chatted 2013-07-14T10:23:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-14T10:25:38 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T10:29:05 -!- emeb [~ericb@24.49.207.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-14T10:34:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.187.13] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T10:54:42 < dongs> i just made a kickass set of power supply leads 2013-07-14T10:54:55 < dongs> with 4mm bullets on one end and alligators on another 2013-07-14T10:54:59 < talsit> photos! 2013-07-14T10:55:00 < dongs> about 2 or 3 meters long 2013-07-14T10:55:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.187.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-14T10:55:11 < dongs> i guess 2 2013-07-14T10:55:12 < talsit> silicone cable? 2013-07-14T10:55:33 < dongs> ya 2013-07-14T10:55:59 < talsit> i made a whole bunch of those too 2013-07-14T10:56:22 < talsit> with aligator, the ic test clips, etc 2013-07-14T10:56:36 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/NpigxVR.jpg 2013-07-14T10:56:36 < talsit> i made some leads for my multimeter with pogo-pin type things on the end 2013-07-14T10:56:38 < talsit> very handy 2013-07-14T10:56:53 < talsit> haha... hobbyking 2013-07-14T10:57:10 < dongs> i kno rite 2013-07-14T10:57:24 < talsit> it's awesome 2013-07-14T10:57:29 < talsit> i made mine 18awg 2013-07-14T10:57:35 < dongs> my other set is 14 2013-07-14T10:59:34 < baird> i haz chromebook.. (one of the samsung arm jobs) 2013-07-14T10:59:40 < dongs> trash 2013-07-14T10:59:48 < dongs> did they get win8 running on chromebook pixel yet 2013-07-14T11:00:01 < baird> Got Ubuntu running on this one.. 2013-07-14T11:00:01 < dongs> http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-install-windows-8-on-your-google-chromebook-pixel.350111/ 2013-07-14T11:00:05 < dongs> now i might have to get one 2013-07-14T11:00:07 < dongs> oh fuck 2013-07-14T11:01:31 < izzy_> > (Full disclosure: I am a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer) 2013-07-14T11:01:31 < izzy_> That poor, poor man... 2013-07-14T11:01:34 < baird> A Pixel is $750? lol 2013-07-14T11:02:32 < baird> Each, no, $1300-$1500. "Buy a real netbook, son." 2013-07-14T11:02:48 < dongs> baird: it also has a 2560xsomeeshit lcd. 2013-07-14T11:03:31 < dongs> 12.85" display with a 3:2 aspect ratio 2013-07-14T11:03:31 < dongs> 2560 x 1700, at 239 PPI 2013-07-14T11:04:23 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-SCREEN-FOR-GOOGLE-CHROMEBOOK-PIXEL-12-9-WQXGA-/171072641905?pt=US_Laptop_Screens_LCD_Panels&hash=item27d4b95b71 2013-07-14T11:04:27 < dongs> wooh 2013-07-14T11:04:38 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-14T11:06:08 < baird> 1.5kg weight, too. 2013-07-14T11:07:43 < upgrdman> some should make a arduino shield that plugs into that lcd /sarcasm 2013-07-14T11:09:01 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-14T11:14:31 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T11:16:11 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T11:16:40 < dongs> what hte fuck, digikey has NO displayport mini connectors. 2013-07-14T11:16:45 < dongs> in stock that is 2013-07-14T11:20:06 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T11:29:26 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-14T11:48:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-14T11:52:58 < dongs> fuck man.. 2013-07-14T11:53:02 < dongs> http://www.bossconn.com/product/common/upload/2011/7/17/171911U.jpg 2013-07-14T11:53:09 < dongs> half-dip half-smt?? 2013-07-14T11:53:15 < dongs> what hte hell 2013-07-14T11:53:43 < zyp> hah 2013-07-14T11:53:58 < dongs> apparently thats 'standard' too. 2013-07-14T11:54:07 < zyp> probably to annoy both the pth-haters and the smt-haters 2013-07-14T11:54:09 < dongs> ive seen this same arrangement from like 3 makers already 2013-07-14T11:54:12 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-14T12:10:56 < jpa-> well, it is better than multi-row SMT atleast :P 2013-07-14T12:41:55 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@186.sub-75-233-143.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T12:42:30 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-14T13:15:45 < Gargantuasauce> speaking of smt-hating 2013-07-14T13:15:55 < Gargantuasauce> is it possible to hand-solder SOJ or would I be stuck with reflow 2013-07-14T13:17:26 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T13:17:33 < talsit> which is the SOJ? 2013-07-14T13:17:51 < Gargantuasauce> like soic with leads that bend the other way 2013-07-14T13:18:01 < talsit> ah... 2013-07-14T13:18:12 < talsit> aren't they made for sockets? 2013-07-14T13:18:21 < talsit> or am i thinking of something different? 2013-07-14T13:19:06 < jpa-> Gargantuasauce: sure, it is quite easy 2013-07-14T13:19:24 < jpa-> Gargantuasauce: just make the pads long enough that you can heat them with iron 2013-07-14T13:19:44 < Gargantuasauce> ok thanks 2013-07-14T13:27:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T13:30:22 < Tectu> soic with leads bend the other way? isn't that PLCC? 2013-07-14T13:30:34 < Tectu> and then I'd say what talsit said 2013-07-14T13:30:48 < Tectu> actually, people seem to solder them: http://store.curiousinventor.com/media/images/guides/smt/plcc_tacking.jpg?1248413493 2013-07-14T13:33:13 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-14T13:35:03 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@186.sub-75-233-143.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-14T13:47:46 -!- [1]arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-109-67-188-161.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T13:49:19 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-14T13:49:20 -!- [1]arnonh is now known as arnonh 2013-07-14T14:08:43 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-133-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-14T14:20:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.161.135] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T14:47:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.161.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T14:49:54 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T14:57:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.227.8] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T14:58:16 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T15:10:32 < talsit> oh... WIN, the stm32f discovery boards all have an f103 on them... 2013-07-14T15:10:35 < talsit> win+wi 2013-07-14T15:10:36 < talsit> n 2013-07-14T15:14:02 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-235-208.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T15:14:06 < karlp> not just the stm32f diso boards, 2013-07-14T15:19:03 < talsit> the takachi catalogue is a lot of fun! 2013-07-14T15:26:51 < arnonh> they have absolutely everything 2013-07-14T15:28:48 < talsit> i just wish it was in english 2013-07-14T15:28:56 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T15:29:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-14T15:31:33 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T15:44:44 < arnonh> way i found this in chinglish 2013-07-14T15:44:46 < arnonh> http://www.takachi-el.co.jp/data/actibook/2012english/_SWF_Window.html 2013-07-14T15:45:02 < arnonh> or maby japglish 2013-07-14T15:47:26 < talsit> yep, i have that, in paper version 2013-07-14T15:47:54 < talsit> but yeah, not in english 2013-07-14T16:01:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.227.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T16:09:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.232.180] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T16:10:05 -!- CoolBear is now known as CoolBeer 2013-07-14T16:15:21 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-14T16:15:28 < dongs> lol 2013-07-14T16:15:48 < dongs> ya i ahve their deadtree version 2013-07-14T16:15:54 < dongs> its pretty thick 2013-07-14T16:17:08 -!- zetaz [~arno@187.119.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T16:29:40 < Vutral> hmpfs 2013-07-14T16:29:46 < Vutral> arm emulator ? 2013-07-14T16:30:44 < Vutral> cant we fork simulavr to simulstm32 2013-07-14T16:31:45 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/QW5om4h.jpg 2013-07-14T16:33:00 < dongs> pic32, no shit 2013-07-14T16:33:04 < dongs> who overengineerd that nonsense 2013-07-14T16:33:14 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-14T16:33:55 < dongs> http://www.panelook.com/LP129QE1-SPA1_LG%20Display_12.9_LCM_overview_16925.html attn 2013-07-14T16:37:35 < Laurenceb_> yeah potential awesomeness wrecked by pic32 and NDA 2013-07-14T16:37:45 < dongs> wtf is that tho? 2013-07-14T16:37:52 < dongs> and that AIC3xxx shit is headphone codec??? 2013-07-14T16:38:12 < Laurenceb_> DC to 1.9GHz SDR Rx 2013-07-14T16:38:35 < Laurenceb_> with "11 discrete hardware filters" 2013-07-14T16:39:10 < Tectu> link? 2013-07-14T16:39:46 < Laurenceb_> http://www.funcubedongle.com/?page_id=1073 2013-07-14T16:40:31 < dongs> lol, what fucking retards. 2013-07-14T16:40:37 < dongs> but it guess its all NDA and closed sores 2013-07-14T16:40:38 < dongs> so who cares 2013-07-14T16:40:38 < dongs> right 2013-07-14T16:40:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-14T16:41:05 < Tectu> shouldn't that exactly be your thing of interest then? 2013-07-14T16:41:21 < Laurenceb_> i need something the GPS time sync 2013-07-14T16:41:28 < Laurenceb_> on the rx data stream 2013-07-14T16:41:33 < Laurenceb_> so thats useless :( 2013-07-14T16:42:16 < Vutral> fdeed 2013-07-14T16:42:17 < Vutral> deeded 2013-07-14T16:42:27 < Vutral> heartr tmonitor and dialysis shtuting down 2013-07-14T16:42:41 < Vutral> detected you have no license for the extended mode pic compiler ^^ 2013-07-14T16:43:18 < Laurenceb_> well as i dont have their firmware i cant add any new features, even if i had a compiler 2013-07-14T16:43:21 < Laurenceb_> so fail 2013-07-14T16:43:56 -!- emeb [~ericb@24.49.207.140] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T16:44:43 < Vutral> qwll 2013-07-14T16:44:51 < Vutral> working at microchip must be nice 2013-07-14T16:44:57 < Vutral> i bet they let you try every shit ^^ 2013-07-14T16:45:26 < Vutral> well if you seen their errata collection 2013-07-14T16:45:33 < Vutral> they do mostly research :D 2013-07-14T16:47:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T16:49:16 < Laurenceb_> i want an SDR with time synced data 2013-07-14T16:51:07 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T17:03:46 < Vutral> i want a LSDR 2013-07-14T17:03:50 < Vutral> ^^ 2013-07-14T17:04:15 < Vutral> lol 2013-07-14T17:04:20 < Vutral> i think when i sell a sdr 2013-07-14T17:04:23 < Vutral> i will call it snowden 2013-07-14T17:05:13 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb_: so you can put several in parallel to correlate data? 2013-07-14T17:05:25 < Laurenceb_> thats the idea 2013-07-14T17:05:47 < Vutral> boring 2013-07-14T17:05:49 < Vutral> ^^ 2013-07-14T17:05:50 < BrainDamage> can't you inject a clocking signal in the IF stage? 2013-07-14T17:06:01 < Vutral> he puit them in parallel on a indepennt powersupply 2013-07-14T17:06:06 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@2001:638:602:1183:223:8bff:fe86:1627] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-14T17:06:07 < Vutral> following TEMPEST rules 2013-07-14T17:06:11 < Vutral> ^^ 2013-07-14T17:06:12 < Laurenceb_> BrainDamage: yeah 2013-07-14T17:06:19 < Vutral> reinjecting interference is fatal ^^ 2013-07-14T17:06:26 < Laurenceb_> second option is gps 1PPS into the IF 2013-07-14T17:08:56 < Vutral> ggps to imprecise 2013-07-14T17:09:08 < Laurenceb_> then correlate the receivers to give transmitter position 2013-07-14T17:09:08 < Vutral> hydrogen maser or so ^^ 2013-07-14T17:09:11 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2013-07-14T17:09:17 < Vutral> we take over the world 2013-07-14T17:09:20 < Vutral> from this channel 2013-07-14T17:09:24 < Laurenceb_> you clearly dont have a clue 2013-07-14T17:09:37 < Vutral> and you have no hydrogen msater :p 2013-07-14T17:09:54 < Vutral> gps got awful picosecond jitter 2013-07-14T17:10:04 < Vutral> and without the p1 and p2 codes well... 2013-07-14T17:11:38 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2013-07-14T17:12:12 < Vutral> anyway gps is only as long accurate as you are synched with it 2013-07-14T17:12:14 < Laurenceb_> picosecond?!?!?! thats like <1mm position error 2013-07-14T17:12:50 < BrainDamage> Vutral: I suggest you stop suggesting while people have still a tiny bit of respect for you :p 2013-07-14T17:13:02 < Vutral> lol 2013-07-14T17:13:06 < BrainDamage> also, you don't use gps alone, you lock a local oscillator to it ... 2013-07-14T17:13:10 < Laurenceb_> what BrainDamage said 2013-07-14T17:13:22 < Vutral> the people here arrent really helpful 2013-07-14T17:13:26 < Vutral> when i got a question 2013-07-14T17:13:31 < Laurenceb_> for ballooning you can live with microsecond timing error 2013-07-14T17:13:34 < Laurenceb_> (~300m) 2013-07-14T17:13:56 < Vutral> like asking about stm32 and bxcan af pin mapping 2013-07-14T17:14:04 < Vutral> i guess you can use dual can but only one pair of pins 2013-07-14T17:14:12 < Vutral> but its written nowhere in the manual ^^ 2013-07-14T17:14:14 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-14T17:14:28 < Vutral> both can use af 9 2013-07-14T17:18:57 < Vutral> see 2013-07-14T17:19:00 < Vutral> now they are quiet again BrainDamage 2013-07-14T17:29:03 -!- Ranewen_ [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T17:29:03 -!- Ranewen_ [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-14T17:30:10 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-14T17:34:24 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-98-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T17:36:13 < Laurenceb_> talking of fail... 2013-07-14T17:36:14 < Laurenceb_> https://www.thecraag.com/photos/index.php?album=lohan-hab-chase/ 2013-07-14T17:36:41 < Laurenceb_> looks like a meeting of the fail academy 2013-07-14T17:36:54 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T17:37:34 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-14T17:39:48 -!- cehteh [~cehteh@pipapo.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T17:40:20 < cehteh> ohai :) 2013-07-14T17:41:04 < jpa-> hello :) 2013-07-14T17:42:56 < cehteh> is it possible to write to flash by dma .. and doing that while the cpu reads/executes code from the other bank? as far i see its not right? 2013-07-14T17:43:20 < jpa-> which stm32 family are you using? it depends a lot on that 2013-07-14T17:43:26 < cehteh> f1 2013-07-14T17:43:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@24.49.207.140] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-14T17:44:07 < cehteh> dongs naze :) 2013-07-14T17:46:44 < dongs> theres different F1's , its F103CB. 2013-07-14T17:47:08 < karlp> dongs: this little tiny quad copter you poited out is heaps of fun! 2013-07-14T17:47:24 < jpa-> cehteh: atleast you can program it using interrupts 2013-07-14T17:48:16 < karlp> I'm proving to be a terrible pilot though 2013-07-14T17:48:29 < jpa-> karlp: which is it? 2013-07-14T17:48:38 < dongs> karlp:which, the neuro thing? or the bee $24.99 thing 2013-07-14T17:49:20 < cehteh> jpa-: i am more interested to know if the 2 banks have each their own flash controler so that one can read and execute code while the other gets written without blocking 2013-07-14T17:49:37 < cehteh> doesnt seem to be like this 2013-07-14T17:49:38 < karlp> this one: http://www.myrcmart.com/hj-toys-v997-mini-pet-4ch-24ghz-6axis-rtf-quadcopter-ladybird-p-4855.html 2013-07-14T17:49:49 < dongs> right the bee thing. 2013-07-14T17:49:49 < dongs> cool 2013-07-14T17:51:12 < cehteh> eflite came up with a 18 gramm quad recently 2013-07-14T17:51:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T17:51:44 < dongs> im sure its not $24.99 2013-07-14T17:52:05 < cehteh> likely not, and spektrum 2013-07-14T17:52:18 < dongs> right 2013-07-14T17:52:21 < dongs> so they can just get fucked. 2013-07-14T17:58:03 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:04:27 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:06:14 < dongs> looks liek thats a standard pinout for Mini-DP 2013-07-14T18:06:23 < dongs> every device i see with it has that mix of DIP and SMT 2013-07-14T18:06:25 < dongs> fucking weird 2013-07-14T18:06:38 < dongs> i wonder if its because they had no other way to make 20 pins fit into that kinda space 2013-07-14T18:07:13 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:07:41 < dongs> zyp: http://i.imgur.com/FPGE8Er.jpg 2013-07-14T18:08:12 <+Steffanx> symetry ftw? 2013-07-14T18:08:18 <+Steffanx> +m 2013-07-14T18:08:45 < dongs> well the only ftw so far is that every manufacturer seems to agree on a footprint 2013-07-14T18:09:33 <+Steffanx> oh, is that the point you tried to make with that image :) 2013-07-14T18:10:10 < dongs> < dongs> http://www.bossconn.com/product/common/upload/2011/7/17/171911U.jpg 2013-07-14T18:13:10 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@78.173.90.7] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:13:10 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@78.173.90.7] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-14T18:13:10 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:13:58 < jpa-> karlp: thanks for the link, i ordered the bigger one as a gift now :P 2013-07-14T18:14:33 <+Steffanx> Which bigger on jpa-? 2013-07-14T18:14:41 < jpa-> the bee 2013-07-14T18:15:48 <+Steffanx> You're not going to put effort into a gift for your nephew anymore uh? :) 2013-07-14T18:16:23 < jpa-> nah, that one is for the parrot :P 2013-07-14T18:16:54 <+Steffanx> Ah, so you can play with it as well. Good excuse to buy such a gadget :) 2013-07-14T18:17:02 < jpa-> yes ;) 2013-07-14T18:19:20 -!- mrmcan is now known as mrcan 2013-07-14T18:20:29 < dongs> i wonder how the fuck i can do a testrig for these lcd adapter boards without trashing the panel's FPC connector 2013-07-14T18:20:43 < dongs> ive already inserted it liek ~50 times and the copper is clearly wearing out 2013-07-14T18:21:16 < dongs> i cant switch to a new panel every 100 boards 2013-07-14T18:21:33 -!- [1]arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:21:39 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@149.sub-75-233-210.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:21:48 < jpa-> don't lock it? 2013-07-14T18:22:01 < jpa-> or buy some copper sulphate and resurface it :P 2013-07-14T18:22:06 < jpa-> or gold something 2013-07-14T18:22:16 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-14T18:22:16 < dongs> locking doesnt matter 2013-07-14T18:22:28 < dongs> it fits in fairly tightly 2013-07-14T18:22:33 < dongs> so even if I dont lock it still wears out 2013-07-14T18:22:57 -!- [2]arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:23:55 < jpa-> gold plating kits are apparently quite easily available 2013-07-14T18:24:04 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-109-67-188-161.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-14T18:24:05 -!- [2]arnonh is now known as arnonh 2013-07-14T18:24:54 < dongs> to plate back contacts? hmpgf 2013-07-14T18:25:22 < jpa-> yeah, let it sit around in the solution over the night and it'll have nice thick gold coating 2013-07-14T18:25:28 < jpa-> then after it wears out, repeat 2013-07-14T18:25:30 < karlp> sounds like a fucking hassle 2013-07-14T18:25:49 -!- [1]arnonh [~arnonh@109.67.188.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-14T18:26:30 -!- phantoxeD [destroy@a89-152-21-223.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T18:31:55 -!- phantoxeD [destroy@a89-152-21-223.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-14T18:35:58 < zippe> dongs: micro pogo pins 2013-07-14T18:36:10 < zippe> Or for that matter, normal pogos and test pads 2013-07-14T18:36:22 < dongs> uh 2013-07-14T18:36:26 < dongs> its 0.3mm pitch connector 2013-07-14T18:36:42 < zippe> Welcome to DFM 2013-07-14T18:37:17 < jpa-> can you buy FPC cable with that pitch? maybe it would last better than the panel itself, or be cheaper 2013-07-14T18:37:26 < jpa-> then you of course need a female-female adapter board 2013-07-14T18:37:29 < dongs> right, but i'd still need to hook it up to a panel 2013-07-14T18:37:29 < dongs> right 2013-07-14T18:37:37 < zippe> You make a cheap interposer 2013-07-14T18:37:51 < zippe> Then you replace the interposer as it wears out 2013-07-14T18:38:10 < dongs> yeah. i did that for smartcards when testing a device taht needed a card in it. 2013-07-14T18:38:25 < dongs> made a pcb that plugged into device and was liek a long smartcard with a socket on the back. 2013-07-14T18:41:43 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-14T18:42:54 < Laurenceb_> itead do FPC 2013-07-14T18:42:58 < Laurenceb_> for only $80 2013-07-14T18:43:18 < dongs> lol itead. 2013-07-14T18:43:32 < dongs> Laurenceb_: i doubt they do anything near 0.3mm tolerance 2013-07-14T18:43:44 < dongs> i think the traces on the panel fpc cable are like 5-6 mil 2013-07-14T18:43:46 < Laurenceb_> they quote 2mil 2013-07-14T18:47:15 < dongs> they also quote they can drill 2013-07-14T18:48:07 < Laurenceb_> going to order some for wok projects 2013-07-14T18:48:14 < dongs> lemme know how it looks like. 2013-07-14T18:48:36 < dongs> http://kr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Hirose-Connector/FH26-27S-03SHW05/?qs=0N%252bVULUZFj9MP1J8pf8tNg== 2013-07-14T18:48:39 < dongs> its like this connector 2013-07-14T18:49:34 < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/185/e58302093-33162.pdf page 4 2013-07-14T18:49:38 < dongs> fpc dimensions 2013-07-14T18:50:23 < zippe> Molex do jumpers around that size; you might be able to use something OTS 2013-07-14T18:50:37 < dongs> jumpers? 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for example, if you try to "int32 = int32 / uint32" wouldnt the uint32 get auto-cast to a signed number? 2013-07-14T23:14:22 < Thorn> I think it's the other way round, i.e. int/uint -> uint 2013-07-14T23:14:57 < Thorn> that's for c++ though, could conceivably be different for C 2013-07-14T23:15:22 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T23:16:03 < Thorn> (the assignment will cast the uint to int of course) 2013-07-14T23:16:32 < BrainDamage> int and uint are the same number 2013-07-14T23:16:41 < BrainDamage> it's how you read it that changes 2013-07-14T23:16:53 < BrainDamage> but internally the same calculations are done 2013-07-14T23:17:09 < upgrdman> cause i had to cast the uint32 to an int32 for the math to come out right 2013-07-14T23:17:20 < upgrdman> guess my assumption was wrong 2013-07-14T23:17:57 < Thorn> not always, e.g. >> is different 2013-07-14T23:18:05 < upgrdman> ok 2013-07-14T23:18:07 < Thorn> logical / arithmetic shift 2013-07-14T23:18:23 < upgrdman> well i should just cast whenever i expect casting to be done for me anyway, just to be clear 2013-07-14T23:19:26 < Thorn> your code would be unreadable then lol. 2013-07-14T23:19:41 < upgrdman> well my variables are usually the right type 2013-07-14T23:19:43 < Ranewen> which ide to use on linux, and can i do debug on it ? 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2013-07-14T23:23:04 < upgrdman> err cant go neg 2013-07-14T23:23:10 < Ranewen> i kind of have something to do first 2013-07-14T23:23:22 < Ranewen> but i will bring the topic back when i return 2013-07-14T23:23:33 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: because the other values it interacts with might 2013-07-14T23:23:42 < upgrdman> k 2013-07-14T23:23:44 < BrainDamage> and humans are really bad on foresight 2013-07-14T23:23:52 < upgrdman> yes, as i demo'd :) 2013-07-14T23:24:28 < Thorn> unsigned x = -1; // default value 2013-07-14T23:24:52 < BrainDamage> it's really easy to forget about it, and then have a cast that suddendly fills up your variable with huge numbers 2013-07-14T23:25:46 < upgrdman> k 2013-07-14T23:27:19 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-14T23:38:09 < upgrdman> man it's annoying when a bug in some other program makes you think the bug is in your code. whening cat'ing a TTY with gnome-terminal, \r moves the cursor to beginning of the line, and \n moves the cursor down one line, as expected. well for a week there was a bug where \r was interpreted as a \r\n ... >:( at least the fixed it quickly 2013-07-14T23:39:29 < Tectu> dongie, you're into that HDMI/DVI stuff, right? 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2013-07-15T01:31:57 <+Steffanx> Is it worth the time? :) 2013-07-15T01:32:44 < gxti> $3 vs $10, and the latter is metal so i still have to figure out how to make pretty end panels for it 2013-07-15T01:33:15 < gxti> could use plastic end panels but then why bother with the metal box? 2013-07-15T01:33:33 < qyx_> hammond? 2013-07-15T01:33:52 < gxti> both yeah 2013-07-15T01:35:31 < qyx_> i have some laser-cut panels for them 2013-07-15T01:35:32 < qyx_> http://i.imgur.com/WTinJSj.jpg 2013-07-15T01:35:48 < gxti> sure, and how much did that cost? 2013-07-15T01:36:02 < qyx_> 0.6e for 1 panel 2013-07-15T01:36:02 < gxti> also lol, that's pretty much exactly what mine would look like 2013-07-15T01:36:27 < qyx_> incl material 2013-07-15T01:36:30 < gxti> needs more LEDs though 2013-07-15T01:36:37 < qyx_> leds are on the other side 2013-07-15T01:36:40 < qyx_> mmt 2013-07-15T01:36:42 < gxti> and an antenna :P 2013-07-15T01:36:58 < gxti> what qty for that cost? 2013-07-15T01:37:22 < qyx_> http://i.imgur.com/sE9KxIV.jpg 2013-07-15T01:37:26 < qyx_> but leds are not populated yet 2013-07-15T01:37:37 < qyx_> 60 pieces, 0.4-0.6e each 2013-07-15T01:37:44 < qyx_> depends on cut length 2013-07-15T01:39:31 < gxti> ah right, i forgot to check how much cheaper the boxes with plastic end panels are since i'd be throwing them away anyway -- $2.46 in singles. wtf. 2013-07-15T01:39:51 < talsit> if my program never sleeps or stops, the state of BOOT0 doesn't matter after that inital boot, right? 2013-07-15T01:40:20 < gxti> talsit: RM will say precisely when it's sampled, but the answer is no it doesn't matter 2013-07-15T01:40:49 < talsit> thanks 2013-07-15T01:40:54 < qyx_> 2.64$? 2013-07-15T01:41:03 < gxti> alum end panels: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/1455C801/HM969-ND/460159 2013-07-15T01:41:09 < gxti> plastic end panels: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/1455C802/HM970-ND/460161 2013-07-15T01:41:38 < gxti> only other difference is the latter has black screws 2013-07-15T01:41:52 < qyx_> where do you see 2.64$? 2013-07-15T01:42:00 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T01:42:00 < gxti> "how much cheaper" not absolute cost 2013-07-15T01:42:04 < qyx_> ah 2013-07-15T01:42:23 < gxti> $2.64 for some slabs of metal with a countersunk hole doesn't make much sense to me but i'm not a machinist 2013-07-15T01:43:12 < gxti> i want to try to make the PCB also fit this, about the same size: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&KeyWords=1593LBK&cur=USD 2013-07-15T01:43:43 <+Steffanx> Who laser cuts that so cheap for you qyx_? 2013-07-15T01:43:47 < qyx_> the alluminum ones look way better 2013-07-15T01:44:00 < qyx_> Steffanx: one local company 2013-07-15T01:44:13 < gxti> sure, and they cost 3x as much. i guess i should be marketing my shit as a luxury item anyway ;) 2013-07-15T01:44:37 <+Steffanx> it isn't a luxury item? 2013-07-15T01:45:10 < qyx_> you know 2013-07-15T01:45:14 < qyx_> usually the cover seels 2013-07-15T01:45:17 < qyx_> sells 2013-07-15T01:45:37 <+Steffanx> only when it's called iXXXXXX 2013-07-15T01:46:24 < qyx_> gxti should call it iTime 2013-07-15T01:46:26 < gxti> probably what i'll do is keep the metal box and use ponoko to get laser cut plastic end panels with nice legends for now, and once i know there's enough interest to warrant some custom metal end panels i'll do that 2013-07-15T01:47:12 < upgrdman> what device are you making? 2013-07-15T01:48:06 < gxti> stm32 ntp server: http://partiallystapled.com/~gxti/circuits/2013/05/28-laurel5_front.jpg 2013-07-15T01:49:51 <+Steffanx> oh, i though qyx_ was the one working on that 2013-07-15T01:49:56 <+Steffanx> Bad memory :( 2013-07-15T01:49:59 <+Steffanx> *thought 2013-07-15T01:50:14 < qyx_> no 2013-07-15T01:50:20 < qyx_> btw nice purple mask 2013-07-15T01:50:35 <+Steffanx> oshpark? 2013-07-15T01:50:40 < gxti> of course 2013-07-15T01:52:07 < upgrdman> neat. so gps > time > stm32 > eth ? 2013-07-15T01:52:31 < gxti> yep. 2013-07-15T01:53:32 < upgrdman> blue header is what, swd? 2013-07-15T01:54:06 < gxti> external GPS actually, in case people want to use their own 2013-07-15T01:54:10 < upgrdman> o 2013-07-15T01:54:48 < qyx_> hm, maybe i should checl seeed pricing for lower priority and quality things 2013-07-15T01:54:50 < gxti> probably not gonna populate it in the final version 2013-07-15T01:55:05 < qyx_> that oshpark is about the same cost as my local supplier 2013-07-15T01:55:11 < qyx_> also design rules are nearly the same 2013-07-15T01:55:20 < gxti> nor the swd (straight header on the right) nor the power headers at the bottom 2013-07-15T01:55:52 <+Steffanx> Also for just 3 tiny 5x5cm board qyx_? 2013-07-15T01:56:01 <+Steffanx> *boards 2013-07-15T01:56:17 < gxti> the goal is to make once pcb that can be used in many configurations, e.g. i could put two or three in a 1U rackmount with a 5V supply 2013-07-15T01:56:42 < qyx_> Steffanx: yep, pool service, 100x100mm for 30e, 5 days 2013-07-15T01:57:04 < qyx_> 0.15mm width/clearance, 0.3mm minimum drill 2013-07-15T01:58:10 < jef79m> gxti: Does that have Poe? 2013-07-15T01:58:46 < gxti> jef79m: no but the input can be 7-36V so it can easily be used with either fake or real poe via a external splitter 2013-07-15T01:59:05 < gxti> well, real poe with a splitter that steps down from 48V anyway 2013-07-15T01:59:07 < jef79m> Right. Neat. 2013-07-15T02:01:19 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T02:04:04 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T02:05:09 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-15T02:08:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-15T02:14:28 -!- phantoxeD [destroy@a89-152-21-223.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-15T02:15:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-235-208.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-15T02:27:10 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@234.sub-75-196-0.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-15T02:35:40 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-177-162.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T02:41:48 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T02:44:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-15T02:45:01 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-15T02:45:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T02:45:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-15T02:45:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T02:57:24 < dongs> < gxti> stm32 ntp server: http://partiallystapled.com/~gxti/circuits/2013/05/28-laurel5_front.jpg 2013-07-15T02:57:31 < dongs> isnt this like 5th revision and you still made mistakes? :( 2013-07-15T02:58:03 < gxti> dongs: that part was new and i shoveled it in at the last second, not surprising 2013-07-15T02:58:19 < gxti> i already fixed it just haven't taken a picture yet 2013-07-15T02:58:24 < dongs> < qyx_> hm, maybe i should checl seeed pricing for lower priority and quality things 2013-07-15T02:58:31 < dongs> no such thing as quality with seed 2013-07-15T02:58:35 < dongs> only lower priority 2013-07-15T02:59:13 < dongs> i got 10 of those neo modules on the way 2013-07-15T03:00:05 < dongs> fucking trash, today is jap holiday, i wont see my shit until wednesday because of it. 2013-07-15T03:00:16 < dongs> sitting in fucking osaka 2013-07-15T03:00:16 * dongs blames talsit 2013-07-15T03:02:34 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-177-162.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-15T03:05:15 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T03:05:21 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T03:09:01 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-15T03:20:09 < upgrdman> are you japanese? 2013-07-15T03:20:56 < baird> oui 2013-07-15T03:41:21 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T03:44:58 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-15T03:45:00 < zyp> http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=hw/intc/armv7m_nvic.c;h=178344b5a3d6a1a634c974fd6f0d43f24c6ef588;hb=HEAD#l215 2013-07-15T03:45:03 < zyp> makes sense 2013-07-15T03:45:22 < zyp> that's why SLEEPONEXIT weren't working when I were testing stuff in qemu 2013-07-15T03:47:16 < zyp> I spent my flight to korea writing a better scheduler 2013-07-15T03:47:39 < dongs> ha 2013-07-15T03:47:52 < zyp> it doesn't fully work though, so I have something to do on my flight back too :p 2013-07-15T03:48:57 < zyp> I just made an idle thread executing wfi in a loop to make up for the lack of SLEEPONEXIT 2013-07-15T03:55:10 < dongs> btw, zyp, http://www.panelook.com/LP129QE1-SPA1_LG%20Display_12.9_LCM_overview_16925.html 2013-07-15T03:58:10 < zyp> nice 2013-07-15T03:58:15 < zyp> what's the price nowadays? 2013-07-15T03:59:03 < dongs> seems about 85 bucks 2013-07-15T03:59:24 < dongs> i grabbed one off shitbay 2013-07-15T03:59:28 < dongs> there's a datasheet 2013-07-15T03:59:36 < dongs> connector is slightly less idiotic ipex w/40pin 2013-07-15T03:59:40 < dongs> still needs like 8channel led driver 2013-07-15T04:02:44 < zyp> I forget, how many channels were the chip you used? 6? 2013-07-15T04:03:08 < zyp> ah, and ipad lcd has 12 chains, so you hooked two in parallel 2013-07-15T04:03:13 < zyp> right? 2013-07-15T04:04:41 < dongs> 6 2013-07-15T04:04:43 < dongs> yueah 2013-07-15T04:04:49 < dongs> this one has 8 chains i guess 2013-07-15T04:05:14 < dongs> led voltage is 42V 2013-07-15T04:05:15 < dongs> on this one 2013-07-15T04:05:30 < dongs> draws 1.2A @ 3.3V max 2013-07-15T04:05:33 < dongs> with all pixels white 2013-07-15T04:05:34 < dongs> lols. 2013-07-15T04:08:09 < dongs> should see some chromebook dixel teardown and see if can read what bl driver they used 2013-07-15T04:08:44 < talsit> dongs: wtvr 2013-07-15T04:09:14 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T04:10:07 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-15T04:10:14 < dongs> http://i.techrepublic.com.com/gallery/6408994-850-563.jpg 2013-07-15T04:10:17 < dongs> haha "large size" 2013-07-15T04:10:18 < dongs> what hte fuck 2013-07-15T04:10:28 < dongs> maybe large if youre viewing it on your fucking iFaggot Mini 2013-07-15T04:17:17 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-15T04:17:29 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-15T04:25:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-15T04:47:53 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T05:14:46 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T05:23:28 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T05:29:42 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@97.sub-75-233-251.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T05:30:09 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-15T05:30:19 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-15T05:34:10 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@131.sub-75-244-132.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T05:34:53 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest73243 2013-07-15T05:35:03 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-15T05:35:15 -!- Guest73243 [~bjfree@97.sub-75-233-251.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-15T05:48:29 -!- luke1 is now known as Luggi09 2013-07-15T06:05:33 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-15T06:05:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T06:10:30 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T06:19:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-15T06:23:05 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-31-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T06:27:35 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-31-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-15T06:40:01 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-198-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T06:45:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T06:58:14 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@131.sub-75-244-132.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-15T07:01:56 < dongs> time to setup this assembly that I realyl hate. 2013-07-15T07:03:17 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=0&y=0&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=63813-2400 2013-07-15T07:03:21 < dongs> haha 2013-07-15T07:04:00 * dongs orders 10000 2013-07-15T07:04:05 < dongs> er 1000. 2013-07-15T07:10:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-15T07:10:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T07:11:28 -!- bgamari [~bgamari@pool-74-106-116-107.spfdma.east.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T07:12:34 < bgamari> for some reason the ADC seems to split current out on the analog pins on sampling 2013-07-15T07:12:39 < bgamari> wtf 2013-07-15T07:14:26 < bgamari> it pulls the node up 200mV 2013-07-15T07:16:37 < upgrdman> never noticed that. i use the f0 mainly. what's your setup? 2013-07-15T07:28:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T07:52:16 < bgamari> upgrdman, I'm trigging an injected ADC sample with a timer 2013-07-15T07:52:35 < bgamari> upgrdman, I just tried a clean board (just the MCU and supporting logic) 2013-07-15T07:52:48 < bgamari> it's reproducible there as well 2013-07-15T07:53:34 < dongs> hacker. 2013-07-15T07:53:57 < bgamari> upgrdman, the pins being sampled from are pulled up a few hundred mV at the same frequency as my sample rate 2013-07-15T07:54:28 < bgamari> s/split/spit/ above 2013-07-15T07:56:36 < bgamari> moreover, if I stop the triggering timer and manually trigger a sample I also see the pull-up 2013-07-15T07:56:55 < bgamari> it's almost like something is holding the analog matrix high 2013-07-15T07:59:08 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-198-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-15T08:04:46 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-15T08:15:05 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:16:39 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-162-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:18:57 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:19:15 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.183.99] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:21:20 -!- claude [sbnc@h1682708.stratoserver.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-15T08:36:38 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:37:22 -!- claude [sbnc@h1682708.stratoserver.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:43:01 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T08:51:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-15T09:01:41 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-15T09:03:47 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T09:05:28 -!- gxti [~gxti@ada.partiallystapled.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-15T09:06:22 < bgamari> alright, enough of this insanity for one night 2013-07-15T09:06:51 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-15T09:06:54 < bgamari> if anyone knows why the STM32L1's ADC injects current onto the input pin it's sampling I'd love to know 2013-07-15T09:07:39 < bgamari> I've reproduced it on all three boards I've tried 2013-07-15T09:07:55 < bgamari> two of them are unpopulated, so I highly doubt the silicon is damaged 2013-07-15T09:08:06 < zyp> how are you driving it? 2013-07-15T09:08:44 < zyp> the pin, I mean 2013-07-15T09:08:53 < dongs> im in ur pin driving it 2013-07-15T09:09:14 -!- gxti [~gxti@72.37.225.164] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T09:15:41 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T09:16:07 < bgamari> zyp, well 2013-07-15T09:16:18 < bgamari> zyp, on two of the boards I'm not driving it at all 2013-07-15T09:16:31 < bgamari> on the other board the pins are driven by opamps 2013-07-15T09:17:47 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-15T09:18:39 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-183-220-139.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T09:22:33 < dongs> watching fucking dicknplace fail because the morons cant figure out how to do proper machine vision 2013-07-15T09:22:37 < dongs> fucking rage 2013-07-15T09:22:45 < dongs> how god damn hard is it to find a fucking shiny dot surrounded by black 2013-07-15T09:22:51 < dongs> must be hard in VB6 th o 2013-07-15T09:23:38 < bgamari> zyp, ideas? 2013-07-15T09:24:01 < zyp> wait, hang on 2013-07-15T09:24:22 < zyp> you're driving an adc pin from an opamp 2013-07-15T09:25:01 < zyp> and the sampling still affects the output enough to cause a visible effect? 2013-07-15T09:25:19 < zyp> do you have any resistors between the opamp output and the adc pin? 2013-07-15T09:25:44 < bgamari> zyp, nope 2013-07-15T09:26:06 < zyp> and you are measuring this how? 2013-07-15T09:26:20 < bgamari> so, I should clarify 2013-07-15T09:26:35 < bgamari> two of the pins are driven by an op-amp 2013-07-15T09:26:45 < bgamari> another is driven by a voltage divider 2013-07-15T09:26:50 < bgamari> oscilloscope 2013-07-15T09:27:13 < bgamari> the latter is where I'm seeing the several hundred mV pulls 2013-07-15T09:27:24 < dongs> measure with blogoscope 2013-07-15T09:27:33 < bgamari> it's still visible in the op-amp driven pins, but smaller 2013-07-15T09:27:34 < zyp> bgamari, ah, so the opamp pins are fine? 2013-07-15T09:27:43 < zyp> how much smaller? 2013-07-15T09:29:23 < zyp> which sample time are you using? 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I never used 2013-07-15T17:50:23 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.32] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T17:50:39 < zyp> maybe I get a good price for it if I advertise it as «rpi display adapter board» 2013-07-15T17:50:46 < dongs> it seems i wasted $30 2013-07-15T17:50:46 < dongs> since chinks are sending me trash that wont work with > 1080p 2013-07-15T17:50:46 < dongs> but THAT board will 2013-07-15T17:50:50 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-177-162.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-15T17:50:54 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/110977522562 2013-07-15T17:50:54 < dongs> this 2013-07-15T17:51:41 < zyp> well, 1152 is not that much more than 1080 2013-07-15T17:53:00 < dongs> i specifically want to output 1920x1200 from it tho 2013-07-15T17:53:12 < dongs> but the trash chip on the other chinese shit is max 1920x1080 2013-07-15T17:53:16 < dongs> or 1600x12000 2013-07-15T17:53:22 < dongs> even though niggers advertised it as x1200 2013-07-15T17:55:58 < effractur> about that does some off you know a cheap thingy for 1024x768 2013-07-15T17:56:48 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.155] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-15T17:57:06 < dongs> hm? 2013-07-15T17:57:16 < dongs> ebay is full of shit that'll drive any cheap trash lcd for ~20shipped. 2013-07-15T17:57:23 < dongs> based on all kinda weird chinese LCD controllers. 2013-07-15T17:57:37 < dongs> its finidng quality highrez stuff thats a problem 2013-07-15T17:58:36 < effractur> mm k 2013-07-15T17:59:47 < dongs> just seahrc for like 2013-07-15T17:59:53 < dongs> lcd lvds controller 2013-07-15T18:03:59 -!- zetaz [~arno@254.195.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-15T18:08:03 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-15T18:11:00 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-177-162.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T18:13:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T18:15:29 -!- Inteliada 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2013-07-15T18:34:58 < Inteliada> kapitulieren! 2013-07-15T18:35:06 < akaWolf> dongs: my bug ) 2013-07-15T18:35:48 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T18:37:28 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T18:39:57 < akaWolf> до 2013-07-15T18:40:35 <+Steffanx> да 2013-07-15T18:40:41 < dongs> -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T18:40:41 < dongs> haha ragequitter. 2013-07-15T18:40:52 <+Steffanx> Not really 2013-07-15T18:41:08 <+Steffanx> It's time to sleep in jappyland remember? 2013-07-15T18:41:20 < dongs> izzit 2013-07-15T18:41:35 < karlp> I see nice proper cyrillic, must be your osom windows pc dongs. 2013-07-15T18:41:42 <+Steffanx> irssi it is karlp 2013-07-15T18:41:42 < karlp> unfortunatley, I can 2013-07-15T18:41:55 < dongs> i dont see shit 2013-07-15T18:42:12 <+Steffanx> " irssi v0.8.14 - running on Linux i686" 2013-07-15T18:42:34 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Laurenceb_> makes sense 2013-07-15T21:59:36 < gxti> i haven't done it directly because i needed a mux, but just like that using a discrete inverter 2013-07-15T21:59:46 < Laurenceb_> kind of like my circuit, only using the internal hse driver 2013-07-15T21:59:56 < Laurenceb_> isnt there an internal resistor on stm32? 2013-07-15T22:00:05 < gxti> maybe, doesn't hurt though 2013-07-15T22:00:05 < Laurenceb_> i remember from the app note 2013-07-15T22:00:09 < Laurenceb_> heh 2013-07-15T22:00:14 < Laurenceb_> cool ill try this 2013-07-15T22:00:21 < Laurenceb_> i dont understand how it works tho 2013-07-15T22:00:31 < gxti> the oscillator block is just an unbuffered inverter 2013-07-15T22:00:38 < Laurenceb_> i mean i understand the theory... 2013-07-15T22:00:52 < Laurenceb_> but does HSE with an xtal use full 3v3 drive voltage? 2013-07-15T22:01:22 < Laurenceb_> i mean i dont see how you can improve the swing 2013-07-15T22:01:39 < Laurenceb_> with an external not gate, you use a gate with a narrow schmitt triggering range 2013-07-15T22:01:52 < Laurenceb_> using the stm32 driver, you are stuck with what you get 2013-07-15T22:02:16 < gxti> there's more amplification internally 2013-07-15T22:02:20 < Laurenceb_> guess i need to read the docs on xtal drive levels.. i think there is an app note 2013-07-15T22:02:30 < gxti> it doesn't spit out the logic-level result on the xtal pins 2013-07-15T22:02:37 < Laurenceb_> then why doesnt external clk with 1vpp work? 2013-07-15T22:02:42 < Laurenceb_> right 2013-07-15T22:02:50 < gxti> you need to center the signal around the crossover point 2013-07-15T22:02:57 < Laurenceb_> so with clkin it turns all the oscillator circuit off? 2013-07-15T22:03:00 < gxti> using xout via a resistor does it automatically 2013-07-15T22:03:06 < Laurenceb_> and just uses logic level input? 2013-07-15T22:03:11 < Laurenceb_> yeah i know the theory 2013-07-15T22:03:21 < Laurenceb_> im confused by how the logic thresholds differ 2013-07-15T22:03:37 < Laurenceb_> between crystal oscilltor and external clock input modes 2013-07-15T22:03:44 < gxti> the threshold is at some arbitrary voltage. if you center your input waveform around that (unspecified) voltage then that will also work. 2013-07-15T22:03:47 < Laurenceb_> or if they differ at all... 2013-07-15T22:04:10 < Laurenceb_> so crystal oscillator mode has a narrower threshold than logic level input? 2013-07-15T22:04:21 < gxti> no, logic level input makes it irrelevant because it has full swing 2013-07-15T22:04:35 < gxti> it definitely crosses the threshold because it goes from 0v to 3.3v 2013-07-15T22:04:42 < gxti> with a fast edge 2013-07-15T22:05:06 < gxti> a 1vpp sine wave with minimum = 0v does not even cross the threshold, so you have to recenter it 2013-07-15T22:05:07 < Laurenceb_> oh nvm you arent really following 2013-07-15T22:05:15 < Laurenceb_> yeah i understand all this 2013-07-15T22:05:53 < Laurenceb_> my question is, how do i magically obtain a narrower threshold value on the clk input by switching to crystal mode? 2013-07-15T22:06:09 < Laurenceb_> in there a seperate input block that is turned on or something? 2013-07-15T22:06:13 < gxti> not that i'm aware of 2013-07-15T22:06:20 < Laurenceb_> in which case: is the xtal driven at <3v3 ? 2013-07-15T22:06:23 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2013-07-15T22:06:34 < gxti> the OUTPUT block is turned on obviously 2013-07-15T22:06:39 < Laurenceb_> ill read the crystals app note 2013-07-15T22:06:43 < Laurenceb_> and try to work it out 2013-07-15T22:06:57 < gxti> i don't understand what you don't understand 2013-07-15T22:07:23 < Laurenceb_> normally the threshold region is 2v peak to peak 2013-07-15T22:07:37 < Laurenceb_> so <2v peak to peak could never do anything useful 2013-07-15T22:08:19 < gxti> well it might be different, or it might just be a matter of conservative specifications 2013-07-15T22:10:12 < Laurenceb_> im thinking its using different levels in crystal mode 2013-07-15T22:10:17 < Laurenceb_> or it wouldnt work 2013-07-15T22:10:43 < Laurenceb_> i tried a potential divider centered on vcc/2, with capacitor to the tcxo, and it didnt work 2013-07-15T22:10:54 < gxti> originally i built this up with a schmitt IC that, if it actually had the hysteresis it said it did, would not work. but it did. 2013-07-15T22:11:17 < Laurenceb_> i see 2013-07-15T22:11:18 < gxti> the threshold is not vcc/2 2013-07-15T22:11:27 < Laurenceb_> i didnt the same thing, but chose parts wisely 2013-07-15T22:11:42 < Laurenceb_> yeah i think it tried a trimpot and sweeping right through 2013-07-15T22:11:47 < Laurenceb_> but still no luck 2013-07-15T22:11:48 < gxti> i meant to switch to an unbuffered inverter but apparently i bought the wrong thing so i guess i'll try again 2013-07-15T22:12:08 * Laurenceb_ grabs crystal app note 2013-07-15T22:15:35 -!- upgrdman [429f3cfe@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T22:16:01 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-183-220-139.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-15T22:17:56 < upgrdman> want to drive an h-bridge with my stm32. usually you pull the gate of pmos's high, for safety, so they default to "off". problem is the vdd i want to provide the h-bridge is 6-7V. if i pull-up to that, won't the pin get damaged? 2013-07-15T22:18:16 < upgrdman> something like a 50k or 100k pull-up. not much current, but im still concerned 2013-07-15T22:18:27 < gxti> if you can't pull it up, how do you plan on turning it off at all? 2013-07-15T22:19:24 < upgrdman> well i was going to have the pin be open-drain 2013-07-15T22:19:43 < Thorn> you want a npn to drive that pnp. 2013-07-15T22:19:46 < gxti> ESD diodes will conduct at vcc + 0.3 2013-07-15T22:19:53 < gxti> so the pin will be clamped to say 3.6V 2013-07-15T22:19:57 < upgrdman> mmmm 2013-07-15T22:20:00 < gxti> open drain or not 2013-07-15T22:20:03 < upgrdman> ok. 2013-07-15T22:20:46 < Thorn> for 5v tolerant pins they won't conduct until >5V but it's still probably <6V 2013-07-15T22:20:47 < jpa-> upgrdman: you cannot switch the p-fet off anyway if you cannot get it up to the 7V.. so you need that N-fet to drive the gate 2013-07-15T22:21:04 < jpa-> ah 2013-07-15T22:21:14 < jpa-> whatever Thorn said 2013-07-15T22:21:25 < upgrdman> jpa-: well the plan was for the pull-up to let the pin "float" back up to 7v... but ya. will add a nmos or npn 2013-07-15T22:21:31 < jpa-> i sometimes use 74HCT series to do level conversion.. or the 40xx 2013-07-15T22:21:47 < gxti> lazy solution is to just use hbridge driver 2013-07-15T22:22:02 < jpa-> those are quite nice and also drive much faster than some pull-up stuff 2013-07-15T22:22:07 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-15T22:22:19 < gxti> and often have bootstrap supplies that let you use nmos for everything 2013-07-15T22:22:38 < Thorn> make sure to have an external pulldown on the npn base (gate) 2013-07-15T22:22:56 < upgrdman> ya 2013-07-15T22:23:23 < upgrdman> damn. i dont think i have any smd nmos/npns. might have to use an extra pair of half-bridges just for the nmos :/ 2013-07-15T22:23:39 < Thorn> some fail photos have been recently posted here from someone who forgot about that 2013-07-15T22:23:43 < jpa-> why would you use NPN for that and not a N-fet? 2013-07-15T22:24:15 < upgrdman> jpa-: well either should work, and im a hobbyist, not a pro, so i use what's laying around or avail quick 2013-07-15T22:24:21 < jpa-> yeah 2013-07-15T22:25:56 < Thorn> even I have like 2 kinds of npns and also n-channel fets in sot-23. makes sense to buy that stuff in qtys of 100+ 2013-07-15T22:32:59 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T22:37:26 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-15T22:57:16 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T23:14:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.205.148] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-15T23:18:15 < karlp> any ideas on how to test if a mouse button stopped working because some driver screwed up, or because the button died? 2013-07-15T23:18:18 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-183-220-139.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-15T23:19:41 < jpa-> connect it to another computer? 2013-07-15T23:21:28 < Thorn> usb analyzer lol 2013-07-15T23:22:17 < Thorn> or a hid client program, or wireshark 2013-07-15T23:22:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-15T23:26:17 -!- upgrdman [429f3cfe@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-15T23:35:58 < Laurenceb_> has anyone scoped the crystal pins on stm32 whilst its running? 2013-07-15T23:36:04 < Laurenceb_> i dont have a scope handy 2013-07-15T23:36:15 < Thorn> I have a long time ago 2013-07-15T23:36:17 < jpa-> i don't have a probe that wouldn't disturb the crystal 2013-07-15T23:36:32 < Laurenceb_> good point.. 2013-07-15T23:36:39 < Laurenceb_> Thorn: what voltages did you see? 2013-07-15T23:36:52 < Thorn> my shitty rigol probes worked in the 1:10 mode 2013-07-15T23:37:15 < Thorn> I may be mistaken but I think something over 1V 2013-07-15T23:37:29 < Laurenceb_> interesting 2013-07-15T23:37:46 < Laurenceb_> that would explain how tcxo clipped sine works 2013-07-15T23:38:01 < Laurenceb_> ill have a look at work 2morrow 2013-07-15T23:40:04 < Laurenceb_> its using shoddy connection inside the mouse, squeezed it together a bit better, good again 2013-07-15T23:53:35 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.47] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Tue Jul 16 2013 2013-07-16T00:00:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T00:00:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-16T00:00:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T00:01:22 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-183-220-139.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 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2013-07-16T02:16:53 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-16T02:22:08 < dongs> hm 2013-07-16T02:22:13 < dongs> i wonder what I should do with unused dp lanes 2013-07-16T02:22:19 < dongs> nc or gnd? 2013-07-16T02:23:57 < zyp> source or sink? 2013-07-16T02:25:45 < dongs> source 2013-07-16T02:25:51 < dongs> like, dp connector 2013-07-16T02:25:56 < dongs> screen onl uses 2 lanes. 2013-07-16T02:26:11 < zyp> oh, then you're on the sink side :p 2013-07-16T02:26:23 < zyp> I mean, receiver 2013-07-16T02:26:24 < dongs> sink = scren, no? 2013-07-16T02:26:26 < dongs> oh 2013-07-16T02:26:30 < dongs> in general 2013-07-16T02:26:41 < zyp> sink = screen, yes 2013-07-16T02:27:02 < zyp> the screen would sink two lanes, so you are wondering about how to sink the other two 2013-07-16T02:27:30 < zyp> grounding them would be stupid, either leave them nc or terminate with a resistor across 2013-07-16T02:27:57 < zyp> unless some spec says they should be grounded 2013-07-16T02:28:09 < dongs> yeah i should probly read dp spec 2013-07-16T02:28:12 < dongs> i pirated it few months ago 2013-07-16T02:28:47 < dongs> nothing interesting for "unused" 2013-07-16T02:28:47 < dongs> hm 2013-07-16T02:30:06 < dongs> probly dont matter then 2013-07-16T02:32:37 < Laurenceb_> http://journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Citation/1977/02000/SUCCESSFUL_CLINICAL_REPLANTATION_OF_AN_AMPUTATED.23.aspx 2013-07-16T02:33:15 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-16T02:35:08 < dongs> amputated penis? 2013-07-16T02:35:18 < dongs> i called it 2013-07-16T02:35:20 < dongs> didnt even click the link. 2013-07-16T02:35:22 < dongs> im good. 2013-07-16T02:36:30 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-16T02:52:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-16T03:13:47 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 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zyp> you might be interested in the waveshare Open407V-D board/kit 2013-07-16T05:20:41 < zyp> (but at that point you might as well just drop the discovery and get one of the other waveshare boards) 2013-07-16T05:20:55 < inca> hmmm 2013-07-16T05:21:01 < inca> I'll look into them 2013-07-16T05:21:04 < inca> thanks, zyp 2013-07-16T05:22:08 < zyp> no problem 2013-07-16T05:25:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T05:25:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-16T05:25:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T05:47:15 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T05:47:31 < R2COM> debugging now with bmp and gdb in console 2013-07-16T05:47:51 < R2COM> wonder why p/x GPIOE->IDR tells me that it cant access memory address at 0x.... ? 2013-07-16T05:47:56 < zyp> how's it working out for you? 2013-07-16T05:48:01 < R2COM> I compiled everything with -g3 switch 2013-07-16T05:48:21 < zyp> set mem inaccessible-by-default off 2013-07-16T05:48:26 < R2COM> it worked out fine in terms of connecting, and being able to flash on 10KB speed 2013-07-16T05:48:29 < R2COM> ok sec 2013-07-16T05:49:05 < zyp> register areas aren't defined in the memory map, so gdb regards it as inaccessible by default 2013-07-16T05:49:17 < R2COM> ah ok it worked 2013-07-16T05:49:29 < zyp> I suggest adding that to .gdbinit 2013-07-16T05:49:31 < zyp> as I have 2013-07-16T05:49:43 < R2COM> well its nice, and less hassle rather than Windows Texane sevver + st-link 2013-07-16T05:49:43 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/.gdbinit 2013-07-16T05:49:57 < zyp> the attach_swd and attach_jtag shorthands are also nice 2013-07-16T05:49:59 < R2COM> and its faster bye about 2.5x the download speed 2013-07-16T05:50:12 < R2COM> only thing is, I'm running in windows 2013-07-16T05:50:19 < R2COM> so not sure if it still has to be in .gdbinit 2013-07-16T05:50:32 < zyp> you can still have a .gdbinit, I would assume 2013-07-16T05:51:21 < R2COM> i just soldered my costom breakout to come from BMP's socket to my standard 0.1" socket 2013-07-16T05:51:31 < R2COM> but other than that it worked. so I guess its fine then 2013-07-16T05:51:36 < R2COM> also 2013-07-16T05:51:47 < R2COM> one more good thing is, I dont have to re-plug in order to run program again 2013-07-16T05:52:19 < R2COM> with texane+st-link on win7 for some reason, in order to run program again... I *had to* download any working flash to it with st-link utility! and then start debug and run again 2013-07-16T05:52:22 < R2COM> otherwise it hanged 2013-07-16T05:52:42 < R2COM> so bmp is much more convenient tool 2013-07-16T05:53:05 < R2COM> because of that and because of internal server and less hassle for me to start up the thing 2013-07-16T05:53:06 < zyp> yeah, that's why I like it 2013-07-16T05:53:43 < R2COM> if I'm correct it doesnt care what kind of microcontroller chip it is right? 2013-07-16T05:53:49 < R2COM> as far as its cortex m0,1,3,4 ? 2013-07-16T05:54:28 < zyp> depends 2013-07-16T05:54:34 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-16T05:54:54 < zyp> for debugging there is generic support for the cortex-m cpu cores 2013-07-16T05:55:05 < zyp> but flashing is vendor specific 2013-07-16T05:55:17 < zyp> so only some chips can be flashed 2013-07-16T05:55:30 < R2COM> but all series of stm32's can? 2013-07-16T05:55:43 < zyp> yes, I believe so 2013-07-16T05:55:47 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-16T05:56:26 < zyp> I contributed the changes necessary for L1, F0 and F3, and F1, F2 and F4 were supported already 2013-07-16T05:56:32 < zyp> so yeah, they should all be supported 2013-07-16T05:56:56 < R2COM> cool 2013-07-16T05:57:16 < zyp> and should you want to work with an unsupported chip, you could of course contribute yourself 2013-07-16T05:57:25 < inca> zyp: I am not seeing any of the typical micrel or TI ethernet PHYs here: http://www.wvshare.com/column/Ethernet_Device.htm 2013-07-16T05:57:33 < zyp> the flashing code is usually not too hard to write 2013-07-16T05:57:43 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-16T05:58:10 < zyp> inca, scroll down to dp83848 2013-07-16T05:58:17 < zyp> that's what was included with my kit 2013-07-16T05:58:22 < inca> there it is 2013-07-16T06:04:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-16T06:04:44 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T06:19:57 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T06:20:48 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T06:22:08 < talsit> setting the BKPSRAMEN bit of AHB1ENR of RCC, does that reset all the SRAM contents? 2013-07-16T06:23:01 < talsit> i'm having issues keeping the contents of BKPSRAM there across power cycles, and i have VBAT connected, and the RTC works fine 2013-07-16T06:34:59 < inca> zyp: waveshare's ordering is a little rough 2013-07-16T06:36:55 * inca waits for an email to pay with paypal... or perhaps he should just send the money with Order ID 2013-07-16T06:37:09 < R2COM> why does gdb sometimes spits out this from bmp: remote 'g' packet reply too long 00000000000000.... etc.. ? 2013-07-16T06:44:26 < R2COM> after re-run it works fine 2013-07-16T06:46:55 < R2COM> also, i cant find .gdbinit in my windows install folder of that gdb thing 2013-07-16T06:49:54 < R2COM> and some off-topic shit http://i.imgur.com/gIgJ3CN.jpg 2013-07-16T06:52:36 < zyp> you can have a project-specific .gdbinit in your project dir 2013-07-16T06:53:25 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-16T06:54:04 < R2COM> do I have to dick it into a makefile in some proper way? 2013-07-16T06:54:16 < zyp> no 2013-07-16T06:55:37 < R2COM> also 2013-07-16T06:55:42 < R2COM> why you use that demo.elf ? 2013-07-16T06:55:48 < R2COM> arent all .elf files different? 2013-07-16T06:55:55 < R2COM> whats the purpose of having that template name? 2013-07-16T06:56:05 < R2COM> or you use same .elf name for every project? 2013-07-16T06:56:28 < zyp> no reason, it's just because it's in the laks_demo project 2013-07-16T06:56:46 < R2COM> and now I'm thinking that...actually it might make sense to use same names! 2013-07-16T06:56:57 < R2COM> who cares they are still located in different project's folders 2013-07-16T06:57:01 < R2COM> but less typing 2013-07-16T06:57:08 < R2COM> so something like program.elf 2013-07-16T06:57:12 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/suzumebachi/tree/.gdbinit <- I still tend to use different names for different projects 2013-07-16T06:57:18 < R2COM> and put it into every Makefile 2013-07-16T06:57:21 < zyp> but yeah, I've considered what you're suggesting too 2013-07-16T07:03:32 < R2COM> in your init script, you do file... but you do not do load initially 2013-07-16T07:03:37 < R2COM> you just defined it 2013-07-16T07:03:43 < R2COM> with flash macro 2013-07-16T07:04:07 < R2COM> so, actually, "load" is not quite necessary for debug right 2013-07-16T07:04:19 < R2COM> its only for flashing 2013-07-16T07:04:23 < zyp> correct 2013-07-16T07:04:39 < zyp> and you certainly don't want to flash every time you start gdb 2013-07-16T07:19:24 < dongs> sup bloggers 2013-07-16T07:25:21 < R2COM> interesting 2013-07-16T07:25:27 < R2COM> PE5 is configured as input 2013-07-16T07:25:34 < R2COM> and pulled internally DOWN 2013-07-16T07:25:38 < R2COM> but its 3.3v 2013-07-16T07:25:46 < R2COM> on a pin 2013-07-16T07:26:03 < R2COM> and debug register reads it as 1 as well 2013-07-16T07:26:12 < R2COM> and nothing is actively driven to it 2013-07-16T07:27:07 < R2COM> after re-run yeah its ok 2013-07-16T07:31:45 < R2COM> no its not 2013-07-16T07:31:49 < R2COM> its still 1 2013-07-16T07:32:00 < R2COM> and no signal driven to that pin 2013-07-16T07:32:10 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T07:32:53 < R2COM> the only thing is PE6 is configured as output, and hos no push up/down (but has on board pullup 10K) 2013-07-16T07:33:02 < R2COM> so PE6=1, ehich is fine 2013-07-16T07:33:10 < R2COM> and PE5 configured as input 2013-07-16T07:33:16 < R2COM> and has only internall pulldown 2013-07-16T07:33:24 < R2COM> its supposed to be 0v if nothing drives pin 2013-07-16T07:33:26 < R2COM> but its 3.3v 2013-07-16T07:39:07 < zyp> and you're certain your board doesn't have a short? 2013-07-16T07:46:22 < R2COM> im having buffer driving the pin PE5 2013-07-16T07:46:26 < R2COM> so im'm checking things 2013-07-16T07:46:52 < R2COM> buffer was driving it with 0 though 2013-07-16T07:47:10 < R2COM> I was also wondering by the way what type of pulldowns are those on-chip pulldowns on f4 2013-07-16T07:49:49 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T07:54:48 < R2COM> now it seemed to work 2013-07-16T07:55:25 < R2COM> i did different setup: Pulldown 10K---->BUffer----->PE pins. 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2013-07-16T08:25:59 < dongs> why cant I just turn shit on 2013-07-16T08:26:16 < dongs> looks like some RC delay 2013-07-16T08:27:08 < zyp> looks like inrush limiting 2013-07-16T08:27:46 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.188.118] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T08:27:47 < zyp> i.e. current limiting when all the capacitors want to charge right after power on 2013-07-16T08:27:49 < dongs> actaully need to bother with that? 2013-07-16T08:28:20 < zyp> dunno 2013-07-16T08:28:46 < zyp> otherwise you might risk exceeding a current limit somewhere 2013-07-16T08:30:23 < dongs> fucking mtp garbage. 2013-07-16T08:30:27 < dongs> this is like 2nd time i move a file 2013-07-16T08:30:31 < dongs> it "succeeds" 2013-07-16T08:30:34 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T08:30:36 < dongs> then disappears from filesystem 2013-07-16T08:30:40 < dongs> and is gone from mtp device too. 2013-07-16T08:31:32 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/Web%20Export/Supplier%20Content/Tyco_8004/PDF/Tyco_LCD_appnote.pdf?redirected=1 2013-07-16T08:32:23 < dongs> niggers just selling fuses 2013-07-16T08:36:01 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-183-220-139.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T08:44:38 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-16T08:46:25 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T08:47:19 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T09:05:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-16T09:11:49 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-16T09:34:01 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T09:44:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T09:47:02 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T09:52:52 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-16T10:11:32 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:11:53 -!- Intelaida_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:12:21 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-16T10:21:18 -!- DanteA [~X@host-59-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:32:49 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T10:33:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:36:23 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.198] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:42:32 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:43:21 -!- DanteA [~X@host-59-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-16T10:52:16 -!- DanteA [~X@host-59-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T10:59:17 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-16T11:35:23 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@88.sub-75-233-45.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T11:35:58 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-16T11:37:04 -!- DanteA [~X@host-59-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-16T11:37:43 -!- DanteA [~X@host-59-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T11:39:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T11:41:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T12:01:22 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T12:11:57 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T12:13:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T12:27:16 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-16T12:32:54 < Laurenceb> http://spacenear.us/tracker/ 2013-07-16T12:33:00 < Laurenceb> so freaking pro 2013-07-16T12:34:08 <+Steffanx> Why this other one is stuck at 23:59 Laurenceb ? 2013-07-16T12:34:36 < Laurenceb> cuz its not pro 2013-07-16T12:34:50 < Laurenceb> LeoBodnar pwned everything 2013-07-16T12:35:15 < Laurenceb> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-2/Pages/3.html 2013-07-16T12:35:23 < Laurenceb> its like a lesson in how to do it properly 2013-07-16T12:36:03 <+Steffanx> but i like the graphs of the other mobile compatible tracker more :( 2013-07-16T12:36:21 <+Steffanx> The one at habhub.something 2013-07-16T12:36:29 < Laurenceb> http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/ 2013-07-16T12:36:38 < dongs> the problem is pic24 2013-07-16T12:36:42 < dongs> that shit can eat dick 2013-07-16T12:36:44 < dongs> forever and ever 2013-07-16T12:36:58 < Laurenceb> lol mobile tracker hung 2013-07-16T12:37:03 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T12:37:23 < Laurenceb> ifaglet users got pwned 2013-07-16T12:37:54 <+Steffanx> dongs you know what you are like? You are like these sound boards. Press a button and you start to play your standard rants. 2013-07-16T12:38:05 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-16T12:40:08 < Laurenceb> it does get tedious 2013-07-16T12:40:36 <+Steffanx> Uh? Can you repeat that Laurenceb? 2013-07-16T12:40:50 <+Steffanx> What did they do to you in the US? Brain washed? 2013-07-16T12:42:37 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@88.sub-75-233-45.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-16T12:44:42 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T12:45:19 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-16T12:45:19 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-16T13:00:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T13:04:44 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-16T13:05:52 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T13:08:05 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-16T13:09:59 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T13:20:12 < Laurenceb> " this is probably a stupid question.... has anyone tried flying a condom?" 2013-07-16T13:20:20 < Laurenceb> in b4 "no girls on the internet" 2013-07-16T13:22:29 < karlp> anything will fly if you fill it with helium. 2013-07-16T13:22:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T13:24:18 < Laurenceb> oops the uberballoon popped 2013-07-16T13:24:22 < Laurenceb> failballoon now 2013-07-16T13:24:37 < baird> Must've gone to a really lame college if you never had condom balloon decorations at a student party... 2013-07-16T13:32:18 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-16T13:44:38 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T13:44:39 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-16T13:52:15 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-16T13:52:28 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T14:09:43 <+Steffanx> it's not failballoon, its uberballoon, Laurenceb :P 2013-07-16T14:10:16 -!- DanteA [~X@host-59-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-16T14:12:09 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-16T14:12:16 < Laurenceb> must be a thunderstorm 2013-07-16T14:12:25 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T14:19:31 < dongs> 16Vin, 3.3V/3A out 2013-07-16T14:19:34 < dongs> simpleswitcher? 2013-07-16T14:22:50 < dongs> hm, fuck, those all need giant coils 2013-07-16T14:23:01 < dongs> 52Hz switching freq heh 2013-07-16T14:23:06 < Laurenceb> tesla would be proud 2013-07-16T14:23:12 < dongs> kHz rather. 2013-07-16T14:27:55 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/RT7257BHZSP/1028-1092-1-ND/3078095 2013-07-16T14:27:55 < dongs> fuck yes. 2013-07-16T14:46:40 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-87-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T14:53:51 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T14:54:23 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 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2013-07-16T15:32:34 < dongs> too many components + diode 2013-07-16T15:32:39 < dongs> i fucking hate diodes. 2013-07-16T15:33:10 < englishman> hmm your richtech one doesn't need one 2013-07-16T15:33:14 < englishman> smaller components too 2013-07-16T15:33:21 < englishman> and way cheaper 2013-07-16T15:46:36 < Thorn> http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/07/americans-finally-have-access-american-propaganda/67167/ 2013-07-16T15:47:36 < dongs> funny level: laurenceb 2013-07-16T15:47:48 < dongs> (and dropping) 2013-07-16T16:02:04 < dongs> hmm, fuck 2013-07-16T16:02:21 < dongs> if im not using VBUS from USB, but my main board isn't powered 2013-07-16T16:02:34 < dongs> but I have resistor divider (10/20k) going to gpio as vbus_sense 2013-07-16T16:02:40 < dongs> whats that gonna do to unpowered stm? smokey? 2013-07-16T16:03:00 < dongs> 10/20 gives me like 3.33V from 5V usb 2013-07-16T16:04:55 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T16:07:04 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T16:08:41 < dongs> looks like Richtek has a bunch of switchers with same pinout/package 2013-07-16T16:08:49 < dongs> and i even have a part made for it already. 2013-07-16T16:08:52 < dongs> problem: solved. 2013-07-16T16:09:03 < dongs> looks like i used RT8250 for something before 2013-07-16T16:09:08 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T16:19:18 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-16T16:22:57 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-198-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-16T16:24:34 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@93-141-87-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-16T16:48:05 < akaWolf> .цш35 2013-07-16T16:49:21 <+Steffanx> Are you sure akaWolf? 2013-07-16T16:50:01 < Thorn> wtf is /ow35 2013-07-16T16:52:20 < akaWolf> Steffanx: not sure ) 2013-07-16T16:52:29 < akaWolf> Thorn: nothing ) 2013-07-16T16:54:45 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.188.118] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-16T16:55:23 < akaWolf> it's just a command for change window in irssi in wrong codepage ) 2013-07-16T17:02:37 < dongs> sucks to have 35 windows 2013-07-16T17:02:43 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-6-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T17:05:24 < akaWolf> dongs: 45* ) 2013-07-16T17:12:53 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-16T17:21:30 < Thorn> more wisdom from Linus http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137392506516022&w=2 2013-07-16T17:22:32 < Laurenceb> HTTP Error Status: 502 Bad Gateway 2013-07-16T17:24:07 <+Steffanx> linus and wisdom Thorn? 2013-07-16T17:24:12 <+Steffanx> All i read from that guy is raging 2013-07-16T17:24:19 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/DbBh6A67.html 2013-07-16T17:24:26 < dongs> more tldr trash from lunix toreballs 2013-07-16T17:27:03 < Laurenceb> way too long 2013-07-16T17:27:15 < Laurenceb> why does he care 2013-07-16T17:27:23 < Laurenceb> id just tell her to piss off 2013-07-16T17:28:38 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-6-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-16T17:30:17 < Laurenceb> " I'm sitting in my home office wearign a bathrobe" 2013-07-16T17:30:20 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-16T17:30:39 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-16T17:34:57 < dongs> yea hes a fucking faggot 2013-07-16T17:35:00 < dongs> "her" 2013-07-16T17:35:01 < dongs> pfft. 2013-07-16T17:38:28 < Laurenceb> wait.. 2013-07-16T17:39:47 < Laurenceb> http://software.intel.com/sites/default/files/m/b/8/1/sarah-beach-square-big.jpg 2013-07-16T17:39:56 < Laurenceb> hmm not sure if dickgirl 2013-07-16T17:41:25 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T17:41:53 < Thorn> you just envy her. she's paid by intel to bitch at linus torvalds 2013-07-16T17:42:16 < dongs> 100% dickgirl 2013-07-16T17:42:23 < dongs> looks manly 2013-07-16T17:42:37 < dongs> why is that dumb pic on intel.com anyway. 2013-07-16T17:43:17 < Laurenceb> cuz if they didnt let her run her blog off their servers... 2013-07-16T17:43:17 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T17:43:24 < Laurenceb> itd be sexist 2013-07-16T17:43:26 < Laurenceb> durrr 2013-07-16T17:43:27 < dongs> ha ha 2013-07-16T17:43:31 < dongs> so fucking gay. 2013-07-16T17:44:12 < dongs> insanity. realtek audio driver is 128mges 2013-07-16T17:45:07 < Laurenceb> http://www.nwhm.org/blog/celebrating-computing-women-part-vi/ 2013-07-16T17:45:09 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-16T17:45:21 < Laurenceb> its a traaapppp 2013-07-16T17:45:25 < zyp> dongs, it better be driving good 2013-07-16T17:45:52 < dongs> zyp: talkin about my vusb shit? 2013-07-16T17:46:07 < zyp> talking about audio driver 2013-07-16T17:46:10 < zyp> what vusb shit? 2013-07-16T17:47:15 < dongs> o that 2013-07-16T17:47:19 < dongs> haha 2013-07-16T17:47:36 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/qoBieJ81.html zyp this shit 2013-07-16T17:47:45 < dongs> vbus through divider into gpio 2013-07-16T17:47:52 < dongs> when stm is unpowered (possibly) 2013-07-16T17:48:14 < Thorn> I had that question before 2013-07-16T17:48:27 < dongs> do yu have pics of smoked board? ) 2013-07-16T17:48:35 < Thorn> there're some source/sink specs in the datasheet 2013-07-16T17:49:02 < dongs> i remember this conversation was in the channel at least a couple times 2013-07-16T17:49:05 < dongs> i just dont remember what was the result 2013-07-16T17:49:08 < Thorn> you're now using Russian smilies dongs? 2013-07-16T17:49:12 < dongs> something about unpowered is OK but within some limits 2013-07-16T17:49:18 < dongs> yeah missed a : 2013-07-16T17:50:33 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-89-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T17:51:14 < zyp> current will be injected through the tvs diodes into vcc, and all the load there will make the upper resistor in the divider drop a lot 2013-07-16T17:52:22 < zyp> 5V/10k is like 500µA, so it would inject less than that 2013-07-16T17:53:04 < zyp> so unlikely to be a problem really 2013-07-16T17:53:34 < dongs> should I make divider bigger? 2013-07-16T17:53:37 < dongs> like 100k/200k or osmeshit? 2013-07-16T17:54:30 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-16T17:55:29 < zyp> you could, but it's probably not necessary 2013-07-16T17:55:51 < dongs> OK. 2013-07-16T17:57:13 < zyp> otherwise you could run vbus through a pfet with gate pulled up to vbus 2013-07-16T17:58:07 < zyp> then just drive gate low when board is powered with an nfet driven by vcc or something 2013-07-16T17:58:47 < zyp> but that's kinda overkill 2013-07-16T17:58:52 < dongs> heh, if it doesnt matter directly im not ognna bother 2013-07-16T17:58:53 < dongs> right 2013-07-16T17:59:22 < zyp> you're just going 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2013-07-17T01:19:59 < karlp> or.... just don't. 2013-07-17T01:20:25 < karlp> machine parseable text, or go all the ay to graphical. qt/gnome whatever 2013-07-17T01:20:49 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T01:21:57 < ddrown> upgrdman: you'd have to track terminal size and use ANSI to place your characters vertically (or use the ncurses library) 2013-07-17T01:22:13 < ddrown> or is that vt100 sequences 2013-07-17T01:26:16 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-17T01:29:45 < zyp> just flip your monitor over, problem solved 2013-07-17T01:34:37 -!- cehteh [~cehteh@pipapo.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-17T01:40:38 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: gxti, jef79m, izzy_, ntfreak_, Tectu, esden, Posterdati, dongie, englishman, shiftplusone, (+6 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2013-07-17T01:40:57 -!- Netsplit *.net 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2013-07-17T01:54:16 < R2COM> I'm debugging with bmp 2013-07-17T01:54:34 < R2COM> notice this strange stuff... so trouble I described above, happened, until i decided to FLASH... and then start over 2013-07-17T01:54:41 < R2COM> once i started over everything worked as it has to 2013-07-17T01:55:15 < R2COM> so it turns out, until i flashed the stm32, it didnt work quite right... (portD bit was not setting to 1) 2013-07-17T01:55:20 < R2COM> in debug... 2013-07-17T01:55:24 < R2COM> although it *has* to 2013-07-17T01:55:42 < R2COM> after flash, starting same debug procedure (and not changing source code at all!!!) it works 2013-07-17T01:57:55 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-17T01:58:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:02:39 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:03:05 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-17T02:05:58 < R2COM> yep, confirmed 2013-07-17T02:06:02 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:06:26 < R2COM> when you FLASH before doing debug with bmp, it gives less anomaly 2013-07-17T02:06:27 < R2COM> works as expected, i mean the port settings of stm32 2013-07-17T02:10:42 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T02:15:06 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-17T02:24:46 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:39:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:39:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-17T02:39:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:40:26 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-17T02:41:50 < karlp> so, what's goign to win, blue tooth LE, or 802.15.4? 2013-07-17T02:47:31 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T02:48:52 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T02:51:48 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T03:03:31 <+Steffanx> bt 2013-07-17T03:03:32 < dongs> 802.waht 2013-07-17T03:05:26 < inca_> R2COM: sounds like your reset vector might be iffy under non-debug conditions 2013-07-17T03:09:38 < karlp> I gave up on BT as it was too much power and too expensive and too complicated, 2013-07-17T03:09:44 < karlp> but now BT LE is turning up everywhere, 2013-07-17T03:09:52 < karlp> and 802.15.4 just keeps limping along 2013-07-17T03:11:58 < ds2> BT saves on having yet another radio around 2013-07-17T03:16:20 < karlp> well, I never had the BT radio around at all, 2013-07-17T03:16:35 < ds2> no phone? 2013-07-17T03:16:42 < karlp> not bt le, 2013-07-17T03:16:50 < karlp> bt l3 is name only compatible with bt 2013-07-17T03:17:39 < karlp> also, when you have no radios on a project, which one do you add? BT <= 3? no way. 2013-07-17T03:18:36 < ds2> what phone do you have? 2013-07-17T03:18:55 < ds2> a lot of phones are LE able but bastard mfgs won't release firmware to enable it 2013-07-17T03:19:17 < karlp> and therefore it doesn't mean shit what the hardware does 2013-07-17T03:19:49 < ds2> u could get an iPhone ;) 2013-07-17T03:20:26 < karlp> harhar 2013-07-17T03:20:54 < upgrdman> le=? 2013-07-17T03:23:05 < karlp> bluetooth lowenergy, 2013-07-17T03:23:11 < karlp> aka bluetooth 4.0 2013-07-17T03:23:32 < karlp> aka, we liked the word blue, and we liked 2.4gig, but we hated everything else 2013-07-17T03:26:17 < zyp> heh 2013-07-17T03:46:21 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T03:49:25 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke] 2013-07-17T03:55:23 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T04:01:41 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@12.sub-75-233-133.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T04:02:19 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-17T04:05:22 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-17T04:07:59 -!- nighty- [~nighty@static-68-179-124-161.ptr.terago.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T04:12:25 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T04:12:50 < R2COM> why sometimes bmp doesnt want to continue infinitely on something like: for(;;) ; ? 2013-07-17T04:13:17 < R2COM> for example I am stepping into the infinite loop, but its not saying: Continuing.. 2013-07-17T04:13:29 < R2COM> that loop is for example on line 168 2013-07-17T04:13:31 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-17T04:13:41 < R2COM> i have breakpoint on line 167, then press "c" 2013-07-17T04:13:51 < R2COM> but it again prints out that its going to step into line 168 with that loop 2013-07-17T04:15:05 < zyp> probably because you're debugging optimized code? 2013-07-17T04:15:33 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-17T04:15:37 < R2COM> no optimization turned off 2013-07-17T04:16:15 < R2COM> -O0 2013-07-17T04:16:39 < zyp> anyway, do I get you right 2013-07-17T04:16:46 < zyp> you have a breakpoint on the loop? 2013-07-17T04:17:08 < zyp> then it's pretty obvious that you would always break for each iteration 2013-07-17T04:17:32 < R2COM> no I have for example: "while(1) ;" on line 168, and breakpoint is on line 167 2013-07-17T04:17:38 < R2COM> so i stopped for example already on line 167 2013-07-17T04:17:41 < R2COM> and ready to proceed 2013-07-17T04:17:44 < R2COM> i press "c" 2013-07-17T04:17:57 < R2COM> and it again stops showing line 168 (as if its going to step in there right now..) 2013-07-17T04:18:07 < zyp> again, keep in mind that you're debugging assembly, not source 2013-07-17T04:18:08 < R2COM> so, its like I have a feeling it never steps into it 2013-07-17T04:18:19 < zyp> line 167 and 168 might be the same instruction in assembly 2013-07-17T04:18:53 < R2COM> by the way 2013-07-17T04:19:06 < R2COM> how do i look up that assembly correlated to source code in gdb? 2013-07-17T04:19:14 < zyp> disassemble 2013-07-17T04:21:01 < R2COM> it gives dump 2013-07-17T04:21:02 < R2COM> but 2013-07-17T04:21:22 < R2COM> most left column is line number of source text? 2013-07-17T04:21:40 < zyp> huh? 2013-07-17T04:22:12 < R2COM> I mean, I'd like to see the correlation to source as well 2013-07-17T04:22:15 < R2COM> of that disassembly 2013-07-17T04:22:42 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T04:23:43 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-17T04:23:46 < R2COM> disassemble /m 2013-07-17T04:24:32 < R2COM> 167 2013-07-17T04:24:32 < R2COM> 168 for(;;) ; 2013-07-17T04:24:32 < R2COM> => 0x08000dc4 <+468>: b.n 0x8000dc4 2013-07-17T04:24:32 < R2COM> End of assembler dump. 2013-07-17T04:25:27 < zyp> ah, yeah, that would be line numbers 2013-07-17T04:25:48 < zyp> so, source line 167 is empty, and 168 is endless loop 2013-07-17T04:25:58 < R2COM> thats true 2013-07-17T04:25:58 < R2COM> but 2013-07-17T04:26:06 < zyp> and that instruction you're at is a jump to itself 2013-07-17T04:26:07 < R2COM> why doesnt debugger say: Continuing 2013-07-17T04:26:27 < zyp> and if you have a breakpoint on that instruction, you'll break there every time it's jumping to itself 2013-07-17T04:26:33 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-17T04:27:04 < R2COM> i was figuring out way to run something in some closed loop 2013-07-17T04:27:07 < R2COM> while debugging 2013-07-17T04:27:15 < R2COM> and from time to time stop, and stare at some registers 2013-07-17T04:27:34 < R2COM> and then continue executing endless loop 2013-07-17T04:33:53 < R2COM> so one way to do it is add some dummy adding,subtracting in infinite loop 2013-07-17T04:34:00 < dongs> lol @ opensores debugging. 2013-07-17T04:34:02 < dongs> waste of fucking time. 2013-07-17T04:34:39 < dongs> so finally i can't login to msn 2013-07-17T04:34:42 < qyx_> lets debug some closed source 2013-07-17T04:35:10 < qyx_> msn? 2013-07-17T04:35:15 < R2COM> the whole thing was, that its not convenient for me that it breaks every time on Inifnite loop 2013-07-17T04:35:43 < R2COM> if i want to step into infinite loop, means i want to be there, while sometimes manually stopping debug and looking what changes on peripherals etc etc... 2013-07-17T04:38:33 < dongs> hm changed pass got back on 2013-07-17T04:39:54 < R2COM> I can guess your pass 2013-07-17T04:39:59 < R2COM> its: fuckingfaggots 2013-07-17T04:40:36 < dongs> close. 2013-07-17T04:40:51 < upgrdman> opensoresfaggots? 2013-07-17T04:51:25 < qyx_> i thought msg is dead for at least 10 years 2013-07-17T04:51:28 < qyx_> msn 2013-07-17T04:53:05 < R2COM> one more interesting thing: 2013-07-17T04:53:14 < R2COM> void TIM2_IRQHandler() 2013-07-17T04:53:14 < R2COM> { 2013-07-17T04:53:14 < R2COM> TIM2->CR1 &= !TIM_CR1_CEN; // Disable TIM2 2013-07-17T04:53:14 < R2COM> } 2013-07-17T04:53:23 < R2COM> when that interrupt related to TIM2 happens 2013-07-17T04:53:23 < dongs> ... 2013-07-17T04:53:43 < R2COM> and it jumps to its handler where i turn off the TIM2 2013-07-17T04:53:54 < R2COM> it starts breaking on the last line of interrupt handler 2013-07-17T04:54:14 < R2COM> i.e. does not escape the interrupt handler shown above to proceed with main program 2013-07-17T05:27:16 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.142.243] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T05:30:22 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T05:31:46 -!- Nutter` is now known as Nutter 2013-07-17T05:32:57 < R2COM> hmm ok it worked, i messed up some flags 2013-07-17T05:33:26 < upgrdman> shouldnt that be &= ~ 2013-07-17T05:33:36 < upgrdman> i think ! evals to 0 or 1, no? 2013-07-17T05:35:18 < upgrdman> not stm32, but: many of the newest high-end stuff uses very low logic levels (1.8v, etc...) can they even drive a logic-level fet? seems like many want 2V+ 2013-07-17T05:43:07 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T05:44:47 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-17T05:44:50 < R2COM> and also 2013-07-17T05:45:02 < R2COM> when working through BMP 2013-07-17T05:45:08 < R2COM> and stopping for example 2013-07-17T05:45:17 < R2COM> if some timer is running, its kind of independent right? 2013-07-17T05:45:39 < R2COM> I mean i can stop debugger stepping, by ctrl+c, but a timer if turned on before should run, right? 2013-07-17T05:46:31 < dongs> timers stop. there's bits you can set to control if they s top or not. 2013-07-17T05:46:52 < R2COM> I am not talking about that 2013-07-17T05:47:05 < R2COM> I am talkgin about scenario in which for example timer in its peripherals set to RUN 2013-07-17T05:47:09 < R2COM> and i started it 2013-07-17T05:47:37 < R2COM> it runs...and goes on... then, meanwhile, i continue stepping through my code through debugger, and stop debugger...should timer run or not? 2013-07-17T05:50:03 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@12.sub-75-233-133.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-17T05:55:09 -!- bairdy [~cjb@119.15.73.218] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T05:56:32 -!- bairdy [~cjb@119.15.73.218] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-17T06:03:16 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-17T06:03:26 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T06:07:40 < R2COM> and answer is yes. 2013-07-17T06:07:41 < R2COM> they run 2013-07-17T06:08:38 < zyp> that's actually optional 2013-07-17T06:08:40 < dongs> fucking garbage java. 2013-07-17T06:08:47 < zyp> read the debug support chapter in the refernece manual 2013-07-17T06:08:52 < dongs> < dongs> timers stop. there's bits you can set to control if they s top or not. 2013-07-17T06:08:53 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-17T06:09:04 < dongs> default was run? 2013-07-17T06:09:08 < dongs> i thought defautl was stop 2013-07-17T06:09:15 < dongs> and you could fuck wiht debug bits to make them keep running 2013-07-17T06:09:18 < zyp> default is run 2013-07-17T06:09:23 < zyp> except for systick 2013-07-17T06:09:53 < R2COM> looking 2013-07-17T06:09:59 < R2COM> but according to their block diagram 2013-07-17T06:10:05 < R2COM> as long as APB2 is clocked 2013-07-17T06:10:16 < R2COM> it should run actually, because thats there TIM2 for example grams clock from 2013-07-17T06:10:23 < R2COM> APB1 2013-07-17T06:10:32 < R2COM> grabs* 2013-07-17T06:10:39 < zyp> they can still be halted for debug, read debug support chapter in reference manual 2013-07-17T06:12:11 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-17T06:16:16 < dongs> ohh. 2013-07-17T06:16:19 < dongs> my kindlefail panel is here. 2013-07-17T06:16:52 < dongs> well-packed lols. 2013-07-17T06:17:36 < R2COM> so yea, DBGMCU_APB1_FZ reset value ix 0x0 2013-07-17T06:17:53 < R2COM> and DBG_TIMx_STOP=0, so TIMx are fed still with clock by default 2013-07-17T06:18:03 < zyp> dongs, doing some eink stuff? 2013-07-17T06:18:14 < dongs> zyp: no, the 1920x1200 8.9" shit 2013-07-17T06:18:47 < zyp> ah, kindle fire? 2013-07-17T06:18:56 < zyp> do they have that kind of resolution? 2013-07-17T06:19:34 < R2COM> some chapter also describes debug protocol for SW 2013-07-17T06:19:47 < R2COM> so turns out that anyone can use it, and write his own debugger programmer? 2013-07-17T06:19:51 < R2COM> (or debug server ) 2013-07-17T06:20:42 < R2COM> looks like yes 2013-07-17T06:20:47 < R2COM> although I dont need it 2013-07-17T06:23:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T06:23:56 < R2COM> and by the way, DBG_TIMx_STOP can be for TIM2,3,4,5,6,7,12,13,14 only according to what is written 2013-07-17T06:26:33 < dongs> yes 2013-07-17T06:26:39 < dongs> because TIM1 if used for PWM and stopped 2013-07-17T06:26:41 < dongs> could get ugly 2013-07-17T06:26:46 < dongs> er pwm -> motor control 2013-07-17T06:27:00 < dongs> same reason why 8 isnt in that list 2013-07-17T06:27:04 < dongs> attn R2COM http://i.imgur.com/IuzFzvD.jpg 2013-07-17T06:27:41 < R2COM> what should I do with this 2013-07-17T06:27:50 < dongs> click on the url 2013-07-17T06:27:54 < R2COM> I did 2013-07-17T06:27:55 < dongs> then comment somethin about shitty caps 2013-07-17T06:28:01 < gxti> it is candy, you must eat it 2013-07-17T06:28:54 < R2COM> not sure dude, but caps of around 10nF are fine for most applications for which such value is needed 2013-07-17T06:30:31 < R2COM> also I'd be curious to know about your way of evaluating what cap is shitty and what not :) 2013-07-17T06:30:54 < dongs> my way is usually yelling to chinaman to go pickup a reel of caps 2013-07-17T06:31:01 < dongs> then receiving them. 2013-07-17T06:31:04 < talsit> my impression is: does it exist: it's shitty; does it not exist: it's shitty 2013-07-17T06:31:47 < R2COM> for decopling your slow speed shit, most likely any chinacap will do just fine... 2013-07-17T06:32:14 < dongs> excellent 2013-07-17T06:32:18 < dongs> gonna load these shits up. 2013-07-17T06:32:32 < gxti> i guess dongs is too slow for rf expert R2COM 2013-07-17T06:32:40 < gxti> ghz or gtfo 2013-07-17T06:33:03 < R2COM> very smart.. 2013-07-17T06:33:18 < R2COM> proceed that way. 2013-07-17T06:33:48 < R2COM> what i tried to say is, parasitics of caps for big value capos used for decoupling of something what has relatively low freq isnt big deal 2013-07-17T06:34:13 < R2COM> but if someone builds filter working on high freq, and uses something like few pF cap, then parasitics can change response completely 2013-07-17T06:34:45 < R2COM> two caps of same value but different parasitics can totally give different result (between usable and non usable) 2013-07-17T06:35:15 < R2COM> but when you use 100/10 etc nF cap, to decouple some microcontroller...you wont even notice anything.. 2013-07-17T06:35:18 < dongs> did you hear about these 0.5pF johannson caps I bought before? 2013-07-17T06:35:28 < dongs> they were liek $2/cap 2013-07-17T06:35:30 < dongs> for 0603 2013-07-17T06:35:37 < dongs> well not that bad but close 2013-07-17T06:35:56 < R2COM> I do use johanson mainly for stuff where it matters 2013-07-17T06:36:21 < dongs> i wonder how much of a difference just a cut in the trace would do vs a $2 0.5pf cap 2013-07-17T06:36:47 < gxti> in 0603 that seems mind-bogglingly useless 2013-07-17T06:37:23 < R2COM> gxti: go tell johansonn, teach them to do a design job in a right way. 2013-07-17T06:38:59 < qyx_> you like 0201 sand? 2013-07-17T06:39:37 < R2COM> its doable I cant recall I did it or no but I think yes 2013-07-17T06:39:44 < R2COM> I mainly do either 0402 or 0603 2013-07-17T06:39:51 < gxti> qyx_: too big 2013-07-17T06:39:54 < gxti> ;p 2013-07-17T06:40:03 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/5MqWSkV.png check out me simulating pro circuits 2013-07-17T06:40:49 < R2COM> its from tarduino community? 2013-07-17T06:40:51 < gxti> bigger packages have more inductance so with such a tiny capacitance and such a "large" part the result would be quite complex, not useless but interesting 2013-07-17T06:40:54 < dongs> no i just made that 2013-07-17T06:41:13 < gxti> i presume the tolerance was at least better than average as well 2013-07-17T06:44:01 < R2COM> and by the way 2013-07-17T06:44:05 < R2COM> they are not 2$ per cap 2013-07-17T06:44:08 < R2COM> much cheaper 2013-07-17T06:44:52 < qyx_> last time someone here linked that brushless gimbal something 2013-07-17T06:44:55 < qyx_> with really bad soldering 2013-07-17T06:45:09 < dongs> welcome to china 2013-07-17T06:45:11 < qyx_> i am trying to find it but no luck 2013-07-17T06:45:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-17T06:45:57 < qyx_> there was stm32 on it 2013-07-17T06:46:00 < dongs> oh 2013-07-17T06:46:14 < qyx_> ah, evvgc, got it 2013-07-17T06:46:15 < dongs> i think i pasted taht 2013-07-17T06:46:16 < dongs> right 2013-07-17T06:46:19 < R2COM> so I see stm32 popular in the world huh 2013-07-17T06:46:22 < R2COM> not sure about US 2013-07-17T06:46:41 < dongs> so any comments about my pro lamp switch circuit 2013-07-17T06:47:02 < dongs> i plan to use it with 3.3V arduino 2013-07-17T06:47:30 < qyx_> why dont you use single nfet switching ground? 2013-07-17T06:47:54 < dongs> beacuse i have to switch high side 2013-07-17T06:48:24 < qyx_> then it's ok 2013-07-17T06:48:25 < dongs> shit has common ground wiht something else that's already powered by 3.3V 2013-07-17T06:48:56 < R2COM> :) 2013-07-17T06:49:14 < dongs> so switching ground on that would be kinda pointless. 2013-07-17T06:50:11 < qyx_> no usb termination on that board :S 2013-07-17T06:50:23 < dongs> heh 2013-07-17T06:50:30 < dongs> that board is just giant fail on fail 2013-07-17T06:50:35 < dongs> from components selection to what it does. 2013-07-17T06:51:25 < qyx_> the idea behind that is quite cool 2013-07-17T06:51:49 < qyx_> but implementation without any feedback worries me a bit 2013-07-17T06:52:00 < dongs> nah that works 2013-07-17T06:52:06 < dongs> feedback = gyro+acc on camera 2013-07-17T06:52:27 < dongs> i was talking more about hbridge design being a fail 2013-07-17T06:52:40 < dongs> plus the rest of the shit like usb and nblah. 2013-07-17T06:53:41 < qyx_> omg altium schematic 2013-07-17T06:53:57 < dongs> in soviet russia they only use altium 2013-07-17T06:54:01 < dongs> thats where all the altium hacks are coming from 2013-07-17T06:54:15 < dongs> every pro irc EE there has latest version of altium installed. 2013-07-17T06:54:29 < dongs> with some "medicine" shit. no idea what the fuck that means. probably lost in translation. 2013-07-17T06:54:57 < qyx_> hope there is some pdf version of it 2013-07-17T06:55:03 < dongs> there is 2013-07-17T06:55:05 < dongs> in rcg thread 2013-07-17T06:55:19 < dongs> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/thumbgallery.php?t=1872199&do=threadgallery 2013-07-17T06:56:10 < dongs> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25545455 2013-07-17T06:56:35 < qyx_> oh, thx 2013-07-17T06:56:52 < dongs> fuck, so much fail there 2013-07-17T06:56:55 < dongs> hurts2see 2013-07-17T06:57:18 < qyx_> 300R pullup on 12V, nice 2013-07-17T06:59:32 < dongs> and sourcing leds. 2013-07-17T06:59:34 < dongs> such faggotry. 2013-07-17T07:01:34 < talsit> anyone use the BKPSRAM on the stm32f4? 2013-07-17T07:02:50 < dongs> i did on F1, dont see how it could be different much on F4 2013-07-17T07:02:58 < R2COM> gym time 2013-07-17T07:03:39 < talsit> i find that the contents of it are lost after powercycles, but not after reboots 2013-07-17T07:03:52 < qyx_> do you have vbat connected? 2013-07-17T07:03:57 < talsit> the BKPxR registers are saved 2013-07-17T07:04:04 < talsit> yep, and RTC works fine 2013-07-17T07:05:36 < dongs> VBUTT 2013-07-17T07:06:59 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-89-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: ] 2013-07-17T07:07:07 < talsit> any particular gotchas that i may have overlooked for things that happen on powercycles? 2013-07-17T07:07:43 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-100-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T07:11:31 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-17T07:16:27 < dongs> gxti: NEO6's look legit 2013-07-17T07:17:22 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/JlYBZL2.jpg 2013-07-17T07:17:33 < talsit> where did you source those? 2013-07-17T07:17:40 < talsit> i need some lea6h 2013-07-17T07:17:45 < dongs> i got some of that 2013-07-17T07:17:48 < dongs> if you want 000 2013-07-17T07:17:58 < talsit> 000? 2013-07-17T07:18:16 < dongs> actually I got LEA-6S-000 2013-07-17T07:18:20 < dongs> so nvrmind 2013-07-17T07:18:25 < dongs> 000 = old firmware 2013-07-17T07:18:47 < talsit> yeah, no, i want H 2013-07-17T07:18:59 < talsit> and where did you source them anyway? 2013-07-17T07:19:05 < dongs> china. 2013-07-17T07:19:14 < talsit> ok 2013-07-17T07:21:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T07:30:49 -!- Bird|lappy [~Bird|ub3r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-17T07:30:58 < dongs> i just added htem to my current order of shit 2013-07-17T07:31:01 < dongs> wasnt a deal or anything 2013-07-17T07:31:08 < dongs> 6H/6S is proably gonna be spendy tho 2013-07-17T07:31:11 < dongs> 40-50ish 2013-07-17T07:31:36 < talsit> last ones i bought were $23/each 2013-07-17T07:31:39 < talsit> AUD 2013-07-17T07:31:45 < talsit> i bout 20 2013-07-17T07:31:57 < talsit> anyway, udon time 2013-07-17T07:31:58 < talsit> brb 2013-07-17T07:32:00 < dongs> lol. 2013-07-17T07:32:01 < talsit> err... bbl 2013-07-17T07:33:40 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T07:45:35 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.188.118] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T07:56:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T08:03:22 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:10:19 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-100-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-17T08:19:24 -!- KennyMcCormic|2 [~Kenny@95.139.191.83] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:20:10 < talsit> that was some mighty udon! 2013-07-17T08:20:22 < talsit> now, back to this BKPSRAM issue :( 2013-07-17T08:21:06 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:21:46 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.188.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T08:22:48 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.230] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:24:46 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T08:28:29 < talsit> if i do this: RCC->AHB1ENR |= RCC_AHB1ENR_BKPSRAMEN; does that reset the contents of my BKPSRAM? 2013-07-17T08:29:06 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-18-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:31:06 < dongs> RCC_APB1PeriphClockCmd(RCC_APB1Periph_PWR | RCC_APB1Periph_BKP, ENABLE); 2013-07-17T08:31:10 < dongs> i only do this when writing to bkp 2013-07-17T08:31:13 < dongs> reading them I just d o 2013-07-17T08:31:18 < dongs> return *((uint16_t *)BKP_BASE + 0x04) | *((uint16_t *)BKP_BASE + 0x08)<<16; 2013-07-17T08:32:51 < dongs> i duno if writing to them resets entire contents. 2013-07-17T08:32:52 < dongs> does it? 2013-07-17T08:33:13 < dongs> but reading should be just reading it out of memory address space. 2013-07-17T08:35:35 < dongs> also note this is F1, i guess they moved bkp to ahb? 2013-07-17T08:35:37 < dongs> in f4 2013-07-17T08:36:58 < talsit> yeah, i was about to say that 2013-07-17T08:37:38 < talsit> i do the enable, and i see the contents of that address space all random values 2013-07-17T08:37:43 < talsit> i memset to 0 2013-07-17T08:37:50 < talsit> they all readback 0 2013-07-17T08:38:17 < talsit> reset (either through debugger or with the reset button), and they read back as expected 2013-07-17T08:38:45 < talsit> but if i power cycle, as in, pull the power out, but with VBAT connected, then read again, it's all random again 2013-07-17T08:39:09 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:42:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:43:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T08:44:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:54:46 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-17T08:55:57 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-17T08:57:18 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-157-242.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T08:57:58 < R2COM> how far did technology move while I was absent 2013-07-17T08:58:43 < talsit> 4 steps back 2013-07-17T08:59:42 < dongs> talsit keeps pushing the progress backwards 2013-07-17T09:00:08 < talsit> just today and yesterday 2013-07-17T09:01:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-17T09:02:10 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-157-242.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-17T09:02:18 < R2COM> sooo 2013-07-17T09:02:22 < R2COM> time to update ISE 2013-07-17T09:02:35 < R2COM> 14.6 from 13.4 big step 2013-07-17T09:04:59 < dongs> shit's on 14 now? 2013-07-17T09:05:07 < dongs> i stopped upgrading after tehy removed waveform editor from 11 2013-07-17T09:05:14 < dongs> that was the only way I could test my shit 2013-07-17T09:05:16 < dongs> and they got r id of it 2013-07-17T09:05:18 < dongs> sutpid fucks 2013-07-17T09:05:43 < R2COM> waveform editor? 2013-07-17T09:05:56 < R2COM> is it Isim? 2013-07-17T09:06:23 < dongs> no, they specifically removed it it was in changelog 2013-07-17T09:06:31 < dongs> now you're supposed to "write" testcases in "hdl" 2013-07-17T09:06:32 < R2COM> they give their Simulator too - Isim. but I dont use it. it sucks on huge design. 2013-07-17T09:06:39 < R2COM> well 2013-07-17T09:06:44 < R2COM> I always write testbench in hdl 2013-07-17T09:06:48 < dongs> considering how I dont KNOW hdl 2013-07-17T09:06:52 < dongs> writing a testcase in taht would be fucking hard. 2013-07-17T09:07:22 < R2COM> actually its not, its harder to get a qwuality HDL for hardware.. in testbenches one can do anything as far as it works and does the stimulus job 2013-07-17T09:08:05 < R2COM> I'v wrote file IO and other shit too long time ago already, so most of the time its just remake 2013-07-17T09:08:37 < R2COM> and for some devices by the way, one can download stimuli hdl..some companies do provide it, for example Cypress for some of tgheir memories 2013-07-17T09:10:15 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T09:20:45 < R2COM> and by the way, if project is not too complex you can shoot commands toggling/forcing signals right in the console as well... so no need then for hdl testbench 2013-07-17T09:22:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T09:23:41 < dongs> ? 2013-07-17T09:24:04 < dongs> for example my most advanced hdl was like serial->parallel converter 2013-07-17T09:24:15 < dongs> so i could just toggle bits on a waveform 2013-07-17T09:24:19 < dongs> to generate some serial clock+data 2013-07-17T09:29:07 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-17T09:35:21 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T09:36:47 -!- Intelaida_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-17T09:37:15 -!- DanteA [~X@host-150-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T09:38:41 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T09:40:57 < talsit> barthess solved my issue, i was missing: PWR->CSR |= PWR_CSR_BRE; 2013-07-17T09:41:41 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T09:42:15 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-17T09:42:38 < barthess> talsit: congrats 2013-07-17T09:52:42 < R2COM> for NVIC higher priority = lower number right? 2013-07-17T09:52:52 < R2COM> I'm looking at standard CMSIS headers here 2013-07-17T09:53:08 < R2COM> and at the NVIC_SetPriority function 2013-07-17T09:53:19 < R2COM> looks like if you pass as priority argument of 1 2013-07-17T09:53:29 < R2COM> it becomes 0x10 2013-07-17T09:53:55 < R2COM> (1 << (8-(4) ) ) & 0xff 2013-07-17T09:54:17 < R2COM> 4 is defined as __NVIC_PRIO_BITS in core_cm4.h file 2013-07-17T09:54:30 < R2COM> so 0x10 is 16 2013-07-17T09:56:48 -!- Chetic [~Chetic@212.112.62.121] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-17T10:01:05 < R2COM> NVIC->IP[(uint32_t)(IRQn)] = ((priority << (8 - __NVIC_PRIO_BITS)) & 0xff); } /* set Priority for device specific Interrupts */ 2013-07-17T10:01:16 -!- DanteA [~X@host-150-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T10:01:18 < R2COM> __NVIC_PRIO_BITS = 4 2013-07-17T10:01:27 < R2COM> so argument 1 will make 16 2013-07-17T10:01:36 < R2COM> argument 2 will do 20 2013-07-17T10:02:10 < R2COM> so higher argument will get higher number---> lowest priority 2013-07-17T10:02:25 < R2COM> not even sure why they decided to code this function like that... --- Log closed Wed Jul 17 10:09:03 2013 --- Log opened Wed Jul 17 10:09:10 2013 2013-07-17T10:09:10 -!- jpa-_ [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T10:09:10 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 72 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 70 normal] 2013-07-17T10:09:52 -!- olasd_ [~olasd@pdpc/supporter/active/olasd] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T10:10:23 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 79 secs 2013-07-17T10:14:10 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: jpa-, olasd 2013-07-17T10:32:30 -!- olasd_ is now known as olasd 2013-07-17T10:32:41 -!- KennyMcCormic|2 [~Kenny@95.139.191.83] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-17T10:32:54 -!- jaeckel_ is now known as jaeckel 2013-07-17T10:33:03 -!- DanteA [~X@host-150-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T10:33:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T10:55:59 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T11:04:16 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-18-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T11:05:30 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-17T11:27:01 < dongs> According to a new report published by Ipsos, between 2008 and 2012 piracy of movies and TV shows collapsed in Norway, along with music seeing a massive drop to less than one fifth of the original level. 2013-07-17T11:27:05 < dongs> zyp stopped pirating movies? 2013-07-17T11:31:54 < R2COM> I watch movies in theaters 2013-07-17T11:31:59 < R2COM> and get games on Steam 2013-07-17T11:33:09 < dongs> if I played games I would nevr use steam 2013-07-17T11:33:15 < dongs> because if I buy a game, I want to own it 2013-07-17T11:33:17 < dongs> not rent it from fat gabe 2013-07-17T11:33:25 < dongs> I don't need/want to connect to internet to play something 2013-07-17T11:33:56 < zyp> not sure about movies/shows, but lots of people at least went from pirating music to spotify 2013-07-17T11:34:35 < R2COM> if you own a game for years it gets obsolete anyhow, or unapdated etc... looses its point 2013-07-17T11:34:44 < R2COM> on steam everything is updated automatically and supported 2013-07-17T11:34:46 < zyp> I guess netflix and stuff like that might be responsible for a similar effect for movies 2013-07-17T11:35:20 < dongs> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967864 lunix in 2013 2013-07-17T11:36:45 < zyp> good enough that people have time complaining about bullshit? 2013-07-17T11:37:46 < dongs> bullshit? 2013-07-17T11:37:53 < dongs> i dont wanna see temperature in fagenheight 2013-07-17T11:38:00 < zyp> well, fair point 2013-07-17T11:38:12 < R2COM> its easy, if its 450, means its time to reflow :P 2013-07-17T11:39:26 -!- DanteA [~X@host-150-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T11:39:42 < zyp> and if it's -40 it doesn't matter 2013-07-17T11:43:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T11:47:06 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T11:47:14 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T11:47:56 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-17T11:49:22 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T11:51:04 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T11:51:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-17T11:57:48 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T12:00:47 -!- DanteA [~X@host-22-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T12:07:17 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-18-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T12:14:25 < zyp> I'm a bit amazed about a board I've got here, it has three different kinds of microusb connectors 2013-07-17T12:14:37 < zyp> and an addon board sitting on top of it has a fourth kind 2013-07-17T12:17:43 < dongs> heh 2013-07-17T12:17:48 < dongs> like that jap board i pasted few weeks ago 2013-07-17T12:17:53 < dongs> with 2 different microusb footprints 2013-07-17T12:17:56 < dongs> neither actually conected 2013-07-17T12:18:02 < dongs> just gnd and vcc 2013-07-17T12:18:10 < dongs> zyp: i got the kindle fail 8.9 screen. 2013-07-17T12:18:12 < dongs> its fuckin small. 2013-07-17T12:18:17 <+Steffanx> that board was nice :) 2013-07-17T12:18:30 < zyp> I think most of these are used for uarts 2013-07-17T12:18:57 <+Steffanx> usb connectors for uart?! 2013-07-17T12:19:03 < dongs> sounds legit 2013-07-17T12:19:16 < zyp> Steffanx, yep 2013-07-17T12:19:30 <+Steffanx> or does usb has some secret uart-compatible mode 2013-07-17T12:19:49 < dongs> well, better than making a "FTDI" connector. 2013-07-17T12:19:50 <+Steffanx> (not cdc) 2013-07-17T12:22:07 < zyp> one of these connectors are a weird kind, it has more pads sitting deeper in the connector 2013-07-17T12:22:26 < dongs> one of those usb-doubles-as-composite-video shit? 2013-07-17T12:22:36 < dongs> didnt know they had that for microusb 2013-07-17T12:22:57 < zyp> it might be the 11-pin MHL stuff 2013-07-17T12:23:00 < dongs> or that 2013-07-17T12:23:12 < dongs> btw, minidp really is standard w/taht fucked up half-dip-half-smt shit 2013-07-17T12:23:24 < dongs> not_using it. just gonna use regular dp plugs. 2013-07-17T12:23:39 < zyp> heh 2013-07-17T12:25:50 -!- DanteA [~X@host-22-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T12:40:25 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T12:52:28 < jpa-_> i don't know which one is more annoying.. using a USB connector for something that is not USB, or using a non-standard connector for USB 2013-07-17T12:53:38 < zyp> pretty sure my vote is on the latter 2013-07-17T12:54:14 < zyp> one major advantage of usb is that fitting cables are abundant 2013-07-17T13:00:22 < jpa-_> i have had a pair of headphones with a micro-usb connector.. which was used for microusb and audio.. but with totally nonstandard pinout so that it gave smoke when i connected it to USB with a standard microusb cable 2013-07-17T13:00:35 < jpa-_> they shipped a weird multi-ended cable with it 2013-07-17T13:02:54 < dongs> heh 2013-07-17T13:13:33 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T13:30:19 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2013-07-17T13:35:43 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T13:51:37 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T13:53:00 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T14:12:45 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T14:13:26 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T14:13:26 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ is now known as trepidaciousMBR 2013-07-17T14:14:23 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.17] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T14:17:01 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T14:18:06 -!- DanteA [~X@host-165-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T14:39:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-17T14:56:42 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 2013-07-17T15:13:16 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T15:14:38 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T15:37:47 < Thorn> microusb is itself non-standard if you ask me. 2013-07-17T15:38:47 <+Steffanx> So i wont ask you Thorn :) 2013-07-17T15:43:01 < qyx_> looking on that stm32 bldc gimbal.. i am tempted to put lc filters on 3phase hbridge outputs 2013-07-17T15:43:10 < qyx_> but i doubt it is worth the cost and complexity :S 2013-07-17T15:45:50 < dongs> qyx, for what 2013-07-17T15:46:27 < qyx_> to filter out pwm freq 2013-07-17T15:46:37 < dongs> why would you need to filter it? 2013-07-17T15:46:41 < dongs> just pwm at like 40kHz 2013-07-17T15:46:45 < dongs> problem solved 2013-07-17T15:47:25 < qyx_> no, theres also other problem 2013-07-17T15:48:04 < Laurenceb> lolwot 2013-07-17T15:48:10 < qyx_> wot lol 2013-07-17T15:48:28 < Laurenceb> you dont seem to understand basic physics 2013-07-17T15:48:34 < dongs> you're the second irc EE who mentioned someshit about LC on motor outputs 2013-07-17T15:48:42 < dongs> and I know the 1st one was trolling 2013-07-17T15:48:44 < qyx_> probably, ok, bad idea then 2013-07-17T15:48:44 < dongs> are YOU? 2013-07-17T15:49:10 < dongs> the problem with evvgc design is that 2013-07-17T15:49:20 < dongs> stm32 doesnt' source enough current to drive fet gates effectively 2013-07-17T15:49:37 < Laurenceb> depends on the fet 2013-07-17T15:49:40 < karlp> fets are voltage controlled, not current controlled amirite? 2013-07-17T15:49:41 < Laurenceb> small fets are fine 2013-07-17T15:49:43 < dongs> lowside gates going directly to fet is fucking fail 2013-07-17T15:49:48 < Laurenceb> heh 2013-07-17T15:50:06 < Laurenceb> http://spacenear.us/tracker/ <-insane 2013-07-17T15:50:09 < dongs> er lowside with gpio going directly to gate 2013-07-17T15:50:11 < Laurenceb> thing is still flying 2013-07-17T15:50:56 < karlp> that page is nasty.... 2013-07-17T15:51:01 < karlp> bad bad js 2013-07-17T15:51:12 < Laurenceb> heh 2013-07-17T15:51:34 < qyx_> Laurenceb: then how would you explain me that sync 3 phase inverters outputting sine wave have outputs filtered 2013-07-17T15:51:38 < qyx_> which seems logical to me 2013-07-17T15:51:43 < Laurenceb> that guy has world amateur balloon duration record 2013-07-17T15:51:45 < qyx_> as i wat to have pure sine 2013-07-17T15:53:24 < karlp> Laurenceb: what's different? tooheavy to get high enough to pop, so just hanging around until it leaks enough to sink? 2013-07-17T15:53:48 < qyx_> part of problem is emi which isn't ptoblem here 2013-07-17T15:54:50 < trepidaciousMBR> Presumably the motor itself has an inductance? 2013-07-17T15:55:00 < Laurenceb> karlp: yeah - its superpressure 2013-07-17T15:55:10 < Laurenceb> having some issues with clouds and moisture atm 2013-07-17T15:55:26 < qyx_> yes, it has, but that forms only 1st order filter 2013-07-17T15:55:34 < karlp> explain superpressure to me like I'm a moron. 2013-07-17T15:55:44 < karlp> not a HAB nerd 2013-07-17T15:56:06 < Laurenceb> the gas pressurizes and increases in density 2013-07-17T15:56:11 < Laurenceb> cancelling its bouyancy 2013-07-17T15:57:22 < dongs> he meant boyancy 2013-07-17T15:57:52 < Laurenceb> boyfancy 2013-07-17T15:57:53 <+Steffanx> I wonder if the power management can be improved Laurenceb. To make the battery last longer as that seems to be the problem now 2013-07-17T15:58:00 < trepidaciousMBR> buoyancy 2013-07-17T15:58:16 < Laurenceb> also, take the berry out of raspberrypi 2013-07-17T15:58:45 < zyp> karlp, a normal balloon expands until pressure on inside and outside are equalized, a superpressure balloon restricts expanding making inside pressure higher than outside 2013-07-17T15:59:40 < karlp> zyp: thanks, Laurenceb: that's how you explain superpressure for morons. 2013-07-17T15:59:46 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-17T15:59:52 <+Steffanx> How 'super' is super in this case btw? 2013-07-17T16:00:01 < zyp> > 1:1 2013-07-17T16:06:10 < dongs> anyoen ever timed how long sinf() takes on F4+FPU? 2013-07-17T16:07:43 < zyp> Steffanx, the maximal pressure differential will be somewhere between 1:1 and air density / gas density 2013-07-17T16:09:10 < zyp> because at the latter, you have no buoyancy, so you won't get more lift, and therefore the air pressure won't get lower 2013-07-17T16:11:03 < zyp> (and then when you factor in payload weight, buoyancy gets even lower) 2013-07-17T16:11:51 -!- dongs [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-17T16:12:28 -!- dongs [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T16:15:45 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T16:15:47 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-18-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-17T16:17:55 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-17T16:49:59 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-160-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T16:51:16 < karlp> zyp: what's the purpose of superpressure though? 2013-07-17T16:51:41 < zyp> you limit how high it can go 2013-07-17T16:52:22 < zyp> remember that buoyancy equals the weight of the displaced air 2013-07-17T16:52:58 < zyp> limiting how much volume the balloon can displace limits how little pressure it can still generate lift in 2013-07-17T16:53:43 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-17T16:58:54 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-157-242.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:03:11 < karlp> right, thanks. 2013-07-17T17:05:05 < Laurenceb> http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/2d028a45cca5ee334e756b3523d56cbb 2013-07-17T17:05:11 < Laurenceb> this thing keeps on going 2013-07-17T17:06:46 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-160-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T17:13:29 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-182-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:17:17 < karlp> well, what's going to stop it now? slowly leaking helium out of through the baloon it self? 2013-07-17T17:17:19 < karlp> and battery life? 2013-07-17T17:17:41 < Ranewen> Laurenceb, very nice gj 2013-07-17T17:17:52 < karlp> is that page meant to have anything on it? 2013-07-17T17:18:11 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-182-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-17T17:20:07 < gxti> now i read up on buoyancy, i feel smurt 2013-07-17T17:24:38 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-60-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:25:32 < Laurenceb> karlp: theres probably some helium loss through diffusion 2013-07-17T17:25:40 < Laurenceb> doesnt look like its leaking 2013-07-17T17:26:14 < Laurenceb> battery will be flat at some point soon.... world duration record for amateur balloons is 84hours set in 1969 2013-07-17T17:26:15 < karlp> if diffusion is what you mean by it jsut going through the skin itself like in a normal balloon, then yeah, that's what I meant, 2013-07-17T17:26:21 < Laurenceb> yeah 2013-07-17T17:26:41 < Laurenceb> another 16hours... 2013-07-17T17:26:49 < karlp> so was this by design or an accident? 2013-07-17T17:26:55 < Laurenceb> by design 2013-07-17T17:27:05 < Laurenceb> be epic to set a new world record 2013-07-17T17:27:21 < Laurenceb> but pro guys with high altitude superpressure have flown for two years 2013-07-17T17:27:36 < Laurenceb> amateur ballooning sucks in comparison 2013-07-17T17:27:45 < karlp> what do you mean by "pro" in this case? 2013-07-17T17:27:57 < karlp> national weather institutes? 2013-07-17T17:28:27 < Laurenceb> yes 2013-07-17T17:28:44 < Laurenceb> CNES and JAXA are the best at ballooning 2013-07-17T17:28:45 <+Steffanx> with unlimited resources .. :( 2013-07-17T17:28:57 < Laurenceb> JAXA also hold altitude record at 56Km 2013-07-17T17:29:14 < karlp> those acronyms are _meaningless_ to people not in your space man. 2013-07-17T17:29:18 < Laurenceb> amateur altitude is 44.7Km, also set in UK :P 2013-07-17T17:29:33 < Laurenceb> letmegooglethatforyou 2013-07-17T17:29:41 < Laurenceb> http://www.jaxa.jp/index_e.html 2013-07-17T17:30:01 < karlp> ucla's center for near eastern studies? 2013-07-17T17:30:21 < Laurenceb> http://www.cnes.fr/web/CNES-en/7114-home-cnes.php 2013-07-17T17:45:05 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-60-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: ] 2013-07-17T17:45:19 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-60-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:49:12 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:49:50 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@207.sub-75-196-87.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:50:39 -!- DanteA [~X@host-165-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-17T17:50:48 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-17T17:53:02 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T17:58:42 -!- DanteA [~X@host-168-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T18:06:16 -!- DanteA [~X@host-168-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T18:07:47 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T18:41:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T18:43:58 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T18:44:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-17T18:44:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T18:44:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-17T18:44:01 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T18:56:23 <+Steffanx> PaulFertser around? You talked about this semihosting using the bmp not? 2013-07-17T18:56:53 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@drupal.org/user/72475/view] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-17T19:00:19 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: yes 2013-07-17T19:00:22 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: yes 2013-07-17T19:00:29 <+Steffanx> :P 2013-07-17T19:00:45 <+Steffanx> Uhm, 2013-07-17T19:01:23 <+Steffanx> It works great for me, but only with the standard newlib. Any idea how to make it work for newlib-nano ? 2013-07-17T19:03:45 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: hm, i think i was using newlib-nano actually when testing. 2013-07-17T19:04:07 < PaulFertser> LINKER_FLAGS=-nostartfiles --specs=nano.specs --specs=rdimon.specs -Xlinker --build-id=none -Xlinker --gc-sections -lc -lrdimon -lm -Xlinker -o$(PROJECT_NAME).elf -Xlinker -M -Xlinker -Map=$(PROJECT_NAME).map 2013-07-17T19:04:28 < Ranewen> bb ##stm 2013-07-17T19:04:32 -!- Ranewen [~Ranewen@78-1-157-242.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2013-07-17T19:04:39 <+Steffanx> Im not sure how it works, so perhaps i miss something. I write to stdout .. 2013-07-17T19:05:13 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: you might be missing initialise_monitor_handles(); call 2013-07-17T19:05:27 <+Steffanx> Nope. :) 2013-07-17T19:05:30 -!- upgrdman [42a6d414@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T19:06:00 <+Steffanx> Nah, ill try some more things :) 2013-07-17T19:06:17 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: http://paste.debian.net/16581/ 2013-07-17T19:06:24 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: full makefile and main.c 2013-07-17T19:07:40 <+Steffanx> Thanks, will compare it to mine 2013-07-17T19:12:29 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-17T19:25:09 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@207.sub-75-196-87.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-17T19:31:01 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-17T19:31:07 < karlp> PaulFertser: what's the --build-id=none for? 2013-07-17T19:36:54 < PaulFertser> karlp: tbh, I really do not remember, it was needed, that's for sure. 2013-07-17T19:36:58 -!- You're now known as jpa- 2013-07-17T19:42:22 < karlp> what about the -S for your orphan syntax check rule? 2013-07-17T19:42:29 < karlp> I can't find -S in the man pages? 2013-07-17T19:42:54 < PaulFertser> karlp: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2010-10/msg00332.html apparently, since i was trying to use a linker script verbatim from ST, it had no section for build-id which was emitted by default, so linking was failing. 2013-07-17T19:43:59 < PaulFertser> karlp: the check-syntax rule is used for flymode in Emacs, to highlight warnings and errors, gcc -S means "-S Stop after the stage of compilation proper; do not assemble." 2013-07-17T19:44:04 < PaulFertser> flymake mode 2013-07-17T19:44:29 < karlp> oh, doh, there it is, foudn it in the man pages finally 2013-07-17T19:44:32 < PaulFertser> :) 2013-07-17T19:50:14 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@72.sub-75-233-39.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T19:51:03 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-17T19:55:59 <+Steffanx> meh 2013-07-17T20:12:43 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T20:14:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.175.123] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T20:14:34 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T20:17:52 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-17T20:27:00 -!- cehteh_ is now known as cehteh 2013-07-17T20:40:37 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T21:27:09 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-17T21:28:23 -!- Guest85393 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.80] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T21:31:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-17T21:38:51 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T21:42:58 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T21:56:12 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@72.sub-75-233-39.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-17T22:02:02 -!- Guest85393 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.217.80] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-17T22:03:43 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T22:08:54 <+Steffanx> meh, i guess it's a combination of chibios and newlib-nano that makes things non-functional. 2013-07-17T22:09:07 <+Steffanx> Without newlib-nano is works as it should 2013-07-17T22:09:11 < jpa-> what semihosting functions do you need? 2013-07-17T22:09:31 <+Steffanx> I was just playing around with printf etc., 2013-07-17T22:09:39 <+Steffanx> Nothing special. 2013-07-17T22:10:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.175.123] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-17T22:10:30 <+Steffanx> printing stuff is much faster than settings a breakpoints to view some variable :) 2013-07-17T22:10:52 <+Steffanx> And I was trying to get around the standard serial interface 2013-07-17T22:11:09 <+Steffanx> but perhaps i should just wire up serial interface 2013-07-17T22:12:20 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T22:13:48 <+Steffanx> As i'm not sure what's going on and why things would break with newlib-nano. 2013-07-17T22:17:35 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-241-69.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T22:19:50 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@72.sub-75-233-39.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T22:20:37 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-17T22:26:35 <+Steffanx> jpa- ever tried it? 2013-07-17T22:29:40 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T22:30:37 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-17T22:33:02 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-241-69.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-17T22:59:30 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 2013-07-17T22:59:53 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T23:00:11 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-17T23:06:58 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T23:26:06 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-17T23:26:52 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-17T23:39:15 -!- upgrdman [42a6d414@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-17T23:40:54 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-17T23:48:26 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu Jul 18 2013 2013-07-18T00:03:52 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@72.sub-75-233-39.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-18T00:08:25 -!- alexn [~alexn@2a02:810d:15c0:84e:bda6:d67e:b4cc:1ad] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T00:09:18 -!- alexn [~alexn@2a02:810d:15c0:84e:bda6:d67e:b4cc:1ad] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-18T00:24:35 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-18T00:26:37 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T00:39:48 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-18T00:49:34 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-18T00:51:55 <+Steffanx> hmpf, the bmp should have a uart interface.. but do i really have to download the schematics to figure out which pins are used? 2013-07-18T00:52:18 <+Steffanx> and i guess the schematics are made using geda? 2013-07-18T00:52:37 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-18T00:53:51 < jpa-> Steffanx: i have just done custom print function when i've needed semihosting 2013-07-18T00:57:12 <+Steffanx> hm 2013-07-18T01:00:16 <+Steffanx> this jpa- https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/nanopb-benchmark/blob/master/platform/platform-arm.h ? 2013-07-18T01:02:21 < jpa-> yeah 2013-07-18T01:02:57 < jpa-> i guess it should be easy enough to bind it to e.g. chibios chprintf() 2013-07-18T01:03:12 < jpa-> just implement a new BaseSequentialStream or whatever 2013-07-18T01:04:42 <+Steffanx> Yeah, inca seems to have kind of tried something similar. And someone else too, but didn't release much code 2013-07-18T01:05:23 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T01:06:01 <+Steffanx> ill give it a try myself too. 2013-07-18T01:06:51 <+Steffanx> Thanks. 2013-07-18T01:09:25 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-18T01:16:29 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T01:18:10 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-18T01:43:19 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T01:45:16 -!- dongs_ [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T01:47:32 -!- dongs [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-18T01:47:55 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-18T01:48:45 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T01:56:05 -!- 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2013-07-18T03:14:26 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-18T03:15:14 < talsit> dongs, got my paste 2013-07-18T03:15:29 < dongs> cool 2013-07-18T03:15:59 < talsit> yes, it's refrigerated 2013-07-18T03:24:03 < talsit> there's no way i'm going to be able to suck this into a syringe 2013-07-18T03:24:13 < talsit> i'm going to have to spoon it out 2013-07-18T03:24:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-18T03:26:15 < talsit> i also got more than 150gr! 2013-07-18T03:26:18 < talsit> about 175 2013-07-18T03:26:42 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T03:42:00 < dongs> lucky 2013-07-18T03:47:25 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-196-76.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T03:48:26 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-18T04:27:26 < upgrdman> i wrote a simple printf that doesnt do floats, and it seems like it has a really small ram footprint. what makes printf bloated? the float stuff, or ? 2013-07-18T04:27:45 < dongs> gnu printf is trash. 2013-07-18T04:28:01 < dongs> keil printf WITH floats takes up less space than some random custom float-less half-broken GNU printfd. 2013-07-18T04:31:28 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-18T04:47:17 < talsit> dongs: this paste is ... nice 2013-07-18T04:48:04 < talsit> its flux doesn't really melt much before the solder melts 2013-07-18T04:48:14 < talsit> which is good, it doesn't run everywhere 2013-07-18T04:48:41 < dongs> i duno i never watch shit melt since i have a proper oven 2013-07-18T04:48:49 < dongs> but what I know is it doesnt ball up and it solders very nicely 2013-07-18T04:48:57 < talsit> i was trying it out with my hot air first 2013-07-18T04:49:16 < talsit> and so far, i like it 2013-07-18T04:49:35 < talsit> i loaded 4cc into a syringe, and am keeping the rest in the fridge 2013-07-18T04:49:38 < talsit> behind the beers 2013-07-18T04:50:05 < dongs> yeah im surer. 2013-07-18T04:50:10 < dongs> opensores + beer goes hand in hand 2013-07-18T04:50:24 < dongs> i dont think i ever chatted to any opensaucer who wasnt an alchoholic 2013-07-18T04:50:59 < talsit> then you need to actually start talking to people instead of your own butthole 2013-07-18T04:54:03 < zyp> dongs, what's your definition of «an alcoholic»? 2013-07-18T04:54:24 < dongs> zyp: i've never drank anything beer/wine/etc related. 2013-07-18T04:54:32 < dongs> anyone who has, is my definition of alchoholic. 2013-07-18T04:54:46 < talsit> oh, that's fine then, since you are wrong 2013-07-18T04:55:33 < zyp> well, the assertion he makes may be right, considering pretty much everyone has at some point drank alcohol 2013-07-18T04:55:58 < talsit> yeah, but drinking at some point doesn't make you an addict 2013-07-18T04:56:05 < talsit> by definition 2013-07-18T04:56:06 < dongs> i havent 2013-07-18T04:56:10 < dongs> and i dont plan to 2013-07-18T04:56:17 < zyp> talsit, that's also correct 2013-07-18T04:56:40 < zyp> I'm certainly not addicted, even though I happen to drink once in a while 2013-07-18T04:57:11 < zyp> and I don't think drinking habits correlates well with views on opensource either 2013-07-18T04:58:38 < dongs> sure they do 2013-07-18T04:59:17 < dongs> *every* opensauce dude drinks. 2013-07-18T04:59:53 < talsit> i know a few that don't 2013-07-18T04:59:56 < talsit> and have never 2013-07-18T04:59:57 < zyp> then I'll claim that «*every* closedsauce dude drinks» 2013-07-18T05:00:54 < dongs> nope 2013-07-18T05:02:03 < talsit> they are both equalily valid claims 2013-07-18T05:02:08 < talsit> equal, in that they are wrong 2013-07-18T05:02:37 < dongs> if you drink, you don't qualify to take part in the discussion/decision if they're wrong or not. 2013-07-18T05:03:25 < talsit> if you're dongs, you don't qualify to take part in the discussion/decision if they're wrong or not. 2013-07-18T05:04:35 < talsit> i think that should be the channel topic 2013-07-18T05:18:23 < BrainDamage> you can drink alcohol even accidentally considering that fermented sugar becomes that 2013-07-18T05:19:23 < talsit> oh, and also, soy sauce has about 2% alcohol :p 2013-07-18T05:19:36 < talsit> so... by dongs' definition, he's an alcoholic 2013-07-18T05:27:34 < talsit> oooo... mouser arrived 2013-07-18T05:47:02 < upgrdman> one of these days im going to have to upgrade to double sided pcbs. but today is not that day! http://farrellf.com/temp/segway_pcb.png 2013-07-18T05:50:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T05:59:55 < talsit> crap, am missing a couple of locknuts in the order :( 2013-07-18T06:01:59 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-18T06:02:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T06:13:20 < qyx_> dongs have never drunk anything? me neither :S 2013-07-18T06:18:39 -!- 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dongs> attn Laurenceb http://www.morebendbox.com/images/07162013/riskforthroatcancer/riskforthroatcancer.jpg 2013-07-18T12:05:47 < zyp> got my scheduler-stuff working with qemu 2013-07-18T12:06:29 < dongs> waht are you emulating in qemu 2013-07-18T12:06:33 < dongs> M4? 2013-07-18T12:07:11 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/gbYqs <- main thread printing every second, foo-thread printing every 0.5 seconds, the cpu sleeps in between, so little actual cpu-time is consumed (user) 2013-07-18T12:07:23 < zyp> M3 2013-07-18T12:07:28 < zyp> no M4 support yet 2013-07-18T12:07:45 < dongs> gonna opensores the patch? 2013-07-18T12:08:04 < zyp> I haven't patched anything, this is vanilla qemu 2013-07-18T12:08:20 < zyp> I'm just fixing my own code and testing it in qemu 2013-07-18T12:08:43 < dongs> oh 2013-07-18T12:08:50 < dongs> but i thought you said there was some unimplemented shit 2013-07-18T12:09:01 < zyp> yeah, SLEEPONEXIT 2013-07-18T12:09:33 < zyp> I'm working around it by having a third thread executing wfi in a loop, so when no other threads are executing, that thread is putting the cpu to sleep 2013-07-18T12:09:46 < zyp> i.e. a plain old idle-thread 2013-07-18T12:10:06 < dongs> uh sure, but why bother if its only a problem wiht qemu? :) 2013-07-18T12:10:27 < zyp> because I didn't bring any hardware to korea, and I wanted to test my code :p 2013-07-18T12:10:46 < dongs> pfft 2013-07-18T12:11:11 < zyp> though, I might fix it and send in a patch 2013-07-18T12:12:02 < jpa-> being able to automatically run tests in qemu would be great 2013-07-18T12:12:05 < zyp> maybe I'll spend the flight home on learning the structure of qemu code, might come in handy later 2013-07-18T12:12:19 < zyp> yeah, that's what I'm also thinking 2013-07-18T12:12:40 < dongs> bellard's code is pretty nice to read 2013-07-18T12:12:55 < zyp> who's that? 2013-07-18T12:13:04 < jpa-> i would really need some sane way to run tests on N+1 different compilers and platforms.. like big-endian and 8-bit and whatever 2013-07-18T12:13:21 < dongs> zyp: fabrice bellard. the qemu guy 2013-07-18T12:13:25 < zyp> ah 2013-07-18T12:13:28 < dongs> dunmo if he still does most of the code or if its some other faggots 2013-07-18T12:13:57 < dongs> http://bellard.org/lte/ haha. 2013-07-18T12:15:53 < dongs> he did that ofdm/dvbt modulator stuff years ago 2013-07-18T12:15:54 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T12:15:59 < dongs> then sold it all to dektec + others 2013-07-18T12:19:04 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-18T12:20:01 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T12:28:04 -!- ouah [~ouah@unaffiliated/ouah] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T12:40:43 -!- ouah [~ouah@unaffiliated/ouah] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-18T13:01:46 -!- dfletcher_ [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T13:03:00 < R2COM> was about to go to sleep, decided to play for a bit with my stm32, and now its almost morning 2013-07-18T13:04:38 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-18T13:04:56 < R2COM> so, I like that bmp so far 2013-07-18T13:05:15 < R2COM> only one thing noticed: before debugging I need to "flash" for proper operation 2013-07-18T13:05:22 < R2COM> first time, after connect 2013-07-18T13:05:32 < R2COM> after that, i can re-run many times 2013-07-18T13:05:37 < jpa-> maybe you need the magic zyp .gdbinit macros 2013-07-18T13:06:02 < R2COM> I am using simple macros where I do similar stuff 2013-07-18T13:06:11 < R2COM> but that macros doesnt flash it before debug 2013-07-18T13:06:19 < baird> uguu~~ http://au.element14.com/renesas/gr-sakura-full/rx63n-32-bit-mcu-dev-board/dp/2311256 2013-07-18T13:06:23 < R2COM> so i have to manually flash it (or add it there) 2013-07-18T13:07:09 < R2COM> its strange but for some reason i am starting recognizing arduino boards 2013-07-18T13:07:10 < R2COM> is it that? 2013-07-18T13:08:02 < R2COM> interesting 2013-07-18T13:08:02 < baird> Seems to be the same MCU as the $1 boards I scored before.. But with More Arduino! 2013-07-18T13:08:08 < baird> And pinku! 2013-07-18T13:08:10 < R2COM> pink board 2013-07-18T13:08:16 < R2COM> maybe I should make my boards pink 2013-07-18T13:08:17 < R2COM> darn 2013-07-18T13:08:24 < R2COM> it would be more fun 2013-07-18T13:08:47 < R2COM> + one can attract more chicks with it for sure 2013-07-18T13:08:49 < baird> A real kawaii~ name, too. 2013-07-18T13:09:20 < R2COM> my current boards are kinda green now 2013-07-18T13:09:21 < baird> If there was ever something to turn dongs to the Tarunioverse, this would be it! 2013-07-18T13:09:22 < R2COM> weird green 2013-07-18T13:10:09 < R2COM> heres color and board i recently made imageshack.us/a/img812/4052/8l2y.jpgI a 2013-07-18T13:10:44 < R2COM> not that much of a green 2013-07-18T13:10:53 < baird> I'm so ordering one when they're available. 2013-07-18T13:11:44 < R2COM> nice 2013-07-18T13:11:56 < R2COM> maybe I should make boards like that and sell to people like you 2013-07-18T13:12:00 < R2COM> make some beer money 2013-07-18T13:13:51 < baird> Whore-up some artist from DeviantArt and get them to do a Anime mascot, too. 2013-07-18T13:15:12 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-18T13:15:58 < PaulFertser> For me BMP never required extra flashing. I wonder what exactly he means by "improper operation". 2013-07-18T13:22:52 < baird> wut .. http://sakuraboard.net/index.html 2013-07-18T13:23:03 < Laurenceb> nargin 2013-07-18T13:23:10 < Laurenceb> oops 2013-07-18T13:23:14 < Laurenceb> not my terminal 2013-07-18T13:24:47 < trepidaciousMBR> Ed Balls! 2013-07-18T13:31:15 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-25-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T13:46:49 < dongs> hello dongs 2013-07-18T13:52:31 < Thorn> I get it now. it was an allegory. dongs is a virgin. 2013-07-18T14:03:23 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-18T14:13:36 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.19] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T14:13:57 < Laurenceb> haha 2013-07-18T14:14:01 < Laurenceb> we know that already 2013-07-18T14:14:13 < dongs> baird: mega old 2013-07-18T14:14:19 < dongs> baird: thats wehre im getting pink pcbs 2013-07-18T14:15:02 < Laurenceb> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/You‎ 2013-07-18T14:16:34 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-18T14:21:55 < dongs> It's about letting the CPU in your computer do what it is there for, instead of just waiting patiently for the next keyboard interrupt so that it can use all 3 gigahertz of power to put a byte into a buffer and then go back to sleep. 2013-07-18T14:22:00 < dongs> ahahaha 2013-07-18T14:22:19 < dongs> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3980497&cid=44303229 2013-07-18T14:22:21 < dongs> awesome rant 2013-07-18T14:32:58 < Thorn> >pink pcbs 2013-07-18T14:33:14 < Thorn> never seen solder mask available. probably only in japan 2013-07-18T14:34:35 < dongs> its available 2013-07-18T14:34:47 < dongs> i can order a m^2 panel in pink for around $450 2013-07-18T14:34:55 < dongs> (2l +enig) 2013-07-18T14:37:03 < Thorn> solder mask: [ ] green [ ] red [ ] white [ ] black [ ] kawaii 2013-07-18T14:37:21 < dongs> haha 2013-07-18T14:42:02 < Laurenceb> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25948865@N03/9253753909/ 2013-07-18T14:51:48 < Laurenceb> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-6/ 2013-07-18T15:03:36 < Laurenceb> epic fail -> http://i.imgur.com/4qBbGwe.jpg 2013-07-18T15:04:17 < Laurenceb> epic win -> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-2/Pages/2.html 2013-07-18T15:22:24 < dongs> haha habduino 2013-07-18T15:22:26 < dongs> fucking trash 2013-07-18T15:25:45 < Laurenceb> one of those boards has more capabilities than the other... 2013-07-18T15:26:40 < Laurenceb> its also over 10 times lighter 2013-07-18T15:28:00 < dongs> of course. 2013-07-18T15:28:04 < dongs> imagine what could happen with a stm32 on there 2013-07-18T15:29:25 < Laurenceb> http://img.addfunny.com/funnypictures/humor/23/reversecowgirl.jpg 2013-07-18T15:33:56 -!- DanteA [~X@217.66.158.74] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T15:41:33 <+Steffanx> PaulFertser, i guess he means he has to 'load' before he can 'run' again :) 2013-07-18T15:42:10 <+Steffanx> ( but maybe i am wrong, i didnt understand him the first time he said that either ) 2013-07-18T15:42:37 <+Steffanx> Anyway, i gave up on newlib-nano, semihosting + chibios os. 2013-07-18T15:44:22 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: yes, but it's unclear what happens if he doesn't load before trying run :) 2013-07-18T15:44:57 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: that's unfortunate :/ I can probably try to help if you're missing any details on how semihosting is supposed to be working. Basically, your printf should end up in _write from rdimon lib. 2013-07-18T15:45:05 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.51] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T15:45:34 <+Steffanx> Yes, for newlib it seems to end up there, but not for newlib-nano. 2013-07-18T15:45:50 < PaulFertser> If it's the same printf... 2013-07-18T15:46:27 <+Steffanx> It's not the same. 2013-07-18T15:49:23 < PaulFertser> I mean if in both cases that's printf from newlib* and not from chibios. 2013-07-18T15:49:43 <+Steffanx> Yes. :) 2013-07-18T15:55:05 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T15:58:56 <+Steffanx> It seems to be nicer to use the default print from chibios anyway and write a streamwriter for it. 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2013-07-18T19:59:19 < Laurenceb> http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html 2013-07-18T19:59:26 < Laurenceb> there you go 2013-07-18T20:01:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.154.21.38] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T20:02:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.154.21.38] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-18T20:08:48 < PaulFertser> Some real horrible cuts there :/ 2013-07-18T20:11:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.207.101] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T20:13:14 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T20:15:32 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.229] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T20:16:43 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-18T20:23:50 <+Steffanx> toys :D 2013-07-18T20:25:18 -!- FmOut [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T20:25:30 -!- FmOut [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-18T20:34:16 -!- Inteliada [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] 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Or perhaps have some doc about it? 2013-07-18T21:29:46 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-18T21:35:25 <+Steffanx> ARM docs it is :) 2013-07-18T21:40:28 -!- Tom_itx [~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T21:40:39 -!- Tom_itx [~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-18T21:54:04 -!- Inteliada [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-18T21:56:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.236.0] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T22:19:02 < Posterdati> hi 2013-07-18T22:19:16 < Posterdati> is there any st evaluation board for stm32f107 + sdcard??? 2013-07-18T22:20:32 <+Steffanx> Why it has to be from st? 2013-07-18T22:21:30 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T22:21:47 <+Steffanx> http://www.st.com/web/catalog/tools/FM116/SC959/SS1532/PF217965 .. stm32f107 + uSD 2013-07-18T22:22:04 <+Steffanx> ( and more ) 2013-07-18T22:22:26 < Posterdati> Steffanx: whatever, not only st 2013-07-18T22:23:12 <+Steffanx> olimex? 2013-07-18T22:23:12 <+Steffanx> https://www.olimex.com/Products/ARM/ST/STM32-P107/ 2013-07-18T22:23:37 < Posterdati> Steffanx: I've got the p107, but no spi1 or spi2 on external connector 2013-07-18T22:23:49 <+Steffanx> You didnt ask for that :P 2013-07-18T22:24:04 < Posterdati> I need spi1 or spi2 for an adxl345 and spi3 for sdcard :) 2013-07-18T22:24:23 < Posterdati> stm3210c is too expensive 2013-07-18T22:24:53 <+Steffanx> You need another SD card? 2013-07-18T22:25:25 <+Steffanx> oh nvermind 2013-07-18T22:25:45 < Posterdati> no 2013-07-18T22:25:59 < Posterdati> spi3 -> SDCARD, SPI1 or 2 on adxl345 2013-07-18T22:30:34 < Posterdati> Steffanx: do you know any good solution? 2013-07-18T22:32:40 <+Steffanx> Get a H107 and wire it up yourself? :) 2013-07-18T22:33:12 <+Steffanx> Dongs favourite waveshare ( wvshare.com ) has some nice boards too 2013-07-18T22:46:10 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@212.sub-75-196-63.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-18T22:50:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T23:01:21 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T23:04:29 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T23:16:52 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T23:18:13 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-18T23:30:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T23:36:58 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-18T23:41:12 -!- _kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.163] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-18T23:44:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.236.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-18T23:54:19 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-18T23:54:36 < Posterdati> Steffanx: I've got the h107 too, but no sdcard adapter 2013-07-18T23:59:44 < jpa-> just make your own pcb --- Day changed Fri Jul 19 2013 2013-07-19T00:05:09 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T00:07:49 < Posterdati> jpa-: no time for that yet 2013-07-19T00:10:14 < talsit> Posterdati: i'm late for the convo, but how about this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TQUTDnv8nVI/Twmw5bUNrkI/AAAAAAAAAMk/5cUCxRxwjuQ/s320/Cheap-DIY-SD-card-breadboard-socket.jpg 2013-07-19T00:11:16 < Posterdati> talsit: ah, nice I've got that adapter :) 2013-07-19T00:11:34 < talsit> good 2013-07-19T00:13:21 < Posterdati> so I can use that on stm32-h107 2013-07-19T00:14:30 < Posterdati> talsit: tx 2013-07-19T00:18:12 < Laurenceb_> haha 2013-07-19T00:18:19 < Laurenceb_> ive done that before 2013-07-19T00:18:38 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-19T00:19:52 < talsit> it's handy 2013-07-19T00:20:53 < Laurenceb_> i doubt SD cards were specifically designed with that in mind 2013-07-19T00:24:35 -!- alexn [~alexn@2a02:810d:15c0:84e:7da0:5487:9faa:ea9f] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T00:26:21 -!- alexn [~alexn@2a02:810d:15c0:84e:7da0:5487:9faa:ea9f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T00:32:57 < jpa-> well, 0.1 inch is 0.1 inch 2013-07-19T00:33:48 < talsit> that's what she said 2013-07-19T00:35:08 < jpa-> she should use metric 2013-07-19T00:36:02 < Laurenceb_> truly epic lolz 2013-07-19T00:36:17 < talsit> point 2013-07-19T00:36:26 < Laurenceb_> my friend just got permabanned from nottinghack for irl trolling RMS 2013-07-19T00:37:52 < Laurenceb_> http://nottinghack.org.uk/ <- this place 2013-07-19T00:40:21 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-19T00:51:45 -!- serserar [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-19T00:56:15 <+Steffanx> Good for him Laurenceb_. Good for him. 2013-07-19T01:04:12 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T01:11:25 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh809211622.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T01:18:30 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T01:20:16 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T01:28:33 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh195149223149.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T01:38:33 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T01:41:13 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T02:00:39 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@254.sub-75-244-167.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T02:01:30 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-19T02:11:03 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T02:14:06 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.179] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T02:16:52 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T02:30:25 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-19T02:45:31 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T02:57:08 <+Steffanx> jpa 2013-07-19T02:57:18 <+Steffanx> nevermind 2013-07-19T02:58:17 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T02:58:17 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-19T02:58:17 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T03:12:29 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-19T03:13:33 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T03:14:18 < johntramp> hi, somehow I have managed to brick an stm32f4 disco board and now st-flash tells me 2013-07-19T12:10:39 WARN src/stlink-common.c: unknown chip id! 0xe0042000 2013-07-19T03:17:08 < johntramp> https://github.com/texane/stlink/issues/107 looks like others have done the same 2013-07-19T03:17:26 < johntramp> too bad I don't have a windows install, is there any other way to fix it? 2013-07-19T03:19:29 < dongs> do yourself (and f4disco) a favor and install windows 8 pro 2013-07-19T03:30:30 < johntramp> nope 2013-07-19T03:31:56 < johntramp> ah, a newer build of stlink has fixed it :) 2013-07-19T03:35:50 < dongs> sucks to be you. 2013-07-19T03:36:01 < dongs> you're probably like one of tehse guys: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3980497&cid=44303229 2013-07-19T03:39:23 < dongs> or rather, the useless mile-long-command-line-typers hes talking about 2013-07-19T03:39:30 < dongs> meanwhile I'll be 100x more productive than you in windows. 2013-07-19T03:40:35 < zyp> I tried being productive on this windows laptop guys provided me with last week 2013-07-19T03:40:59 < dongs> you jsut failed cuz it was in korean 2013-07-19T03:41:14 < dongs> and/or because youre trolling ^^ 2013-07-19T03:41:16 < zyp> of course, for some dumb reason I'm not even allowed to install drivers on it, so I couldn't install the fucking driver for the think I were going to work on 2013-07-19T03:41:35 < dongs> heh 2013-07-19T03:41:35 < zyp> no, it was swedish 2013-07-19T03:41:45 < dongs> even worse. 2013-07-19T03:41:50 < zyp> true 2013-07-19T03:42:11 < dongs> at least korean version you can use same shortcut keys 2013-07-19T03:42:27 < dongs> since they do gookshit(&F) or wahtever for &File etc. 2013-07-19T03:42:37 < dongs> but all localized shit uses whatever local naming 2013-07-19T03:42:40 < zyp> korean keymap is a bit confusing 2013-07-19T03:43:13 < zyp> (I'm used to a norwegian one, after all) 2013-07-19T03:43:49 < johntramp> dongs: how is windows more productive? 2013-07-19T03:43:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T03:44:12 < dongs> zyp: is it same silly trash as japanese one 2013-07-19T03:44:19 < dongs> with [ ] in wrong places etc? 2013-07-19T03:44:23 < dongs> or just shift-numbers thats diff 2013-07-19T03:44:35 < zyp> hmm, dunno 2013-07-19T03:45:01 < zyp> [] are on shift-numbers in norwegian, so they are in wrong places to me anyway 2013-07-19T03:46:22 < zyp> in norwegian we have the extra letters æøå taking up the three keys next to l and p 2013-07-19T03:46:45 < dongs> terrible 2013-07-19T03:46:54 < dongs> i think all the non-english faggots should just learn regular keyboard 2013-07-19T03:47:13 < zyp> it's kinda hard to type norwegian without those letters 2013-07-19T03:51:40 < dongs> gåy 2013-07-19T03:54:16 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T03:56:43 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@254.sub-75-244-167.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-19T03:57:25 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T04:00:19 < englishman> dongs why do you prefer windows 8 over windows 7 2013-07-19T04:00:28 < englishman> imo windows 8 is much more useless 2013-07-19T04:00:35 < dongs> 8 is great 2013-07-19T04:01:02 < englishman> it's so hard to tell if you're trolling sometimes 2013-07-19T04:02:09 < zyp> dongs is always trolling, it just happens to be true too, once in a while 2013-07-19T04:03:33 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-19T04:06:13 < dongs> nope 2013-07-19T04:07:04 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T04:15:12 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T04:32:44 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T04:44:05 -!- HMS [~HMS@cpe-74-67-165-159.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T04:45:40 < gxti> dongs is always trolling, he just happens to actually believe it once in a while 2013-07-19T04:47:08 < qyx_> it's something like me and stupid questions, sometimes i believe in their relevance 2013-07-19T04:56:51 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-19T05:00:32 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-19T05:03:01 < dongs> tunerboard in teh oven 2013-07-19T05:03:03 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T05:03:17 < dongs> ntfreak: are 479 or whatever parts w/sdram + LCD + gfx accelerator availabvle yet 2013-07-19T05:09:39 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T05:18:13 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-19T05:18:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/MREIIMJ.jpg woot 2013-07-19T05:20:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-19T05:20:00 < zyp> neat 2013-07-19T05:20:29 < zyp> why the censoring of the chips? custom shit? 2013-07-19T05:20:43 < zyp> not just some ADC and FX2? 2013-07-19T05:20:44 < dongs> ya usb is custom and center is toshiba demod 2013-07-19T05:20:51 < zyp> ah 2013-07-19T05:21:21 < dongs> both fairly non-interesting to general users 2013-07-19T05:21:24 < dongs> ok time to see if tuner talks 2013-07-19T05:21:46 < dongs> also used the new F connector 2013-07-19T05:21:48 < dongs> from local jap place 2013-07-19T05:21:58 < dongs> thats much lighter and cooler looking than giant trash digikey sells 2013-07-19T05:34:31 < englishman> why 12MHz is your favourite for stm? 2013-07-19T05:35:20 < dongs> cuz: available in 3225 2013-07-19T05:35:23 < dongs> also: thas not stm 2013-07-19T05:35:51 < englishman> the one with 16 or 12 or both 2013-07-19T05:35:59 < dongs> both 2013-07-19T05:44:34 -!- HMS [~HMS@cpe-74-67-165-159.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [] 2013-07-19T05:51:16 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T05:52:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T05:57:45 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T05:58:28 < R2COM> Hello Pro irc EE's! 2013-07-19T06:06:22 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T06:09:04 < dongs> sup R2COM 2013-07-19T06:09:10 < dongs> you missed my pro/EE board 2013-07-19T06:09:14 < dongs> < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/MREIIMJ.jpg woot 2013-07-19T06:23:11 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/iC3Iaha.png yay, tune success 2013-07-19T06:24:25 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T06:28:23 < R2COM> nice :) 2013-07-19T06:31:08 -!- l4cr0ss [~l4cr0ss@unaffiliated/l4cr0ss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T06:34:09 < upgrdman> jeez. i didnt know tek'd guis were that ugly 2013-07-19T06:35:07 < upgrdman> reminds me of owon 2013-07-19T06:36:10 < R2COM> doesnt look ugly to me 2013-07-19T06:37:02 < dongs> lol, owon. what teh fuck do you know 2013-07-19T06:37:12 < dongs> youre still etching single layer trash in 2013 2013-07-19T06:37:13 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-19T06:38:04 < R2COM> at least put a conductive foil underneath and ground it ;) 2013-07-19T06:38:27 < upgrdman> i havnt done anything yet that seems to need it 2013-07-19T06:38:34 < upgrdman> im not doing rf... so... 2013-07-19T06:38:41 < R2COM> who knows, maybe he spends all his money on expencive hookers, and cant afford fabbing pcbs 2013-07-19T06:38:59 < upgrdman> no, it's that everything i tend to do i one off's 2013-07-19T06:39:13 < upgrdman> and its nice to go hour-long turn around times 2013-07-19T06:39:22 < dongs> my shit is oneoffs too 2013-07-19T06:39:45 < upgrdman> dongs: if i was doing rf, i'd have pcbs fabbed. even for one offs 2013-07-19T06:40:12 < R2COM> I'm pretty sure you fuck around more than hour with that etching ;) 2013-07-19T06:40:18 < upgrdman> im going low freq shit, almost all digital. my analog shit isn't critical, and its just 12bit adc stuff 2013-07-19T06:40:52 < R2COM> I heard there are milling machines on sale for such simple stuff 2013-07-19T06:40:54 < dongs> i dont mind waiting a couple days for PCBs. 2013-07-19T06:41:03 < dongs> plus they're free anyway 2013-07-19T06:41:27 < upgrdman> R2COM: not really. print transp = 1 min. cut pcb = ~3 mins tops. expose for 3 mins. develop for <2 mins. etch for < 20 mins. tin < 5 mins. sand < 3 mins... done 2013-07-19T06:41:52 < upgrdman> the only annoying part is the dust from cutting / sanding 2013-07-19T06:41:57 < upgrdman> but i can deal with it 2013-07-19T06:41:58 < R2COM> haha 2013-07-19T06:42:10 < R2COM> + time to clean up 2013-07-19T06:42:16 < upgrdman> dongs: emp paying for your pcbs? 2013-07-19T06:42:36 < upgrdman> R2COM: <5 mins to rise shit off. < 2 mins to spong down my counter.... 2013-07-19T06:43:36 < dongs> upgrdman: no i just wait until theres pcb order and panel my shit with it.. 2013-07-19T06:43:47 < dongs> which is pretty much daily for 2L stuff so.. 2013-07-19T06:43:49 < upgrdman> you work for pcb house? 2013-07-19T06:44:23 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T06:44:46 < dongs> one of scambiz things im doing, yes 2013-07-19T06:44:52 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-19T06:45:17 < upgrdman> well i dont have any connection to that sort of biz, so i cant just shove my shit onto someone elses panel for $0 2013-07-19T06:45:41 < R2COM> https://www.lpkfusa.com/protomat/index.htm 2013-07-19T06:45:45 < upgrdman> if i could get free pcbs, i would 2013-07-19T06:45:50 < upgrdman> im lazy too :) 2013-07-19T06:45:51 < R2COM> http://compare.ebay.com/like/111010279353?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar 2013-07-19T06:46:37 < upgrdman> $500 cnc.... intriguing 2013-07-19T06:47:20 < dongs> thats $500 less you can spend on PCBs 2013-07-19T06:47:42 < R2COM> well if he plans to make fucktons of similar simple pcbs 2013-07-19T06:47:44 < R2COM> then it buys 2013-07-19T06:48:00 < R2COM> and saves time (which is more than 1 hour I'm still pretty sure ;) ) 2013-07-19T06:48:12 < upgrdman> i'd like a cnc, but the noise might be a problem. i try to be a good neighbour, and live in a condo complex 2013-07-19T06:48:21 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-19T06:48:27 < dongs> im sure your neighbors love your etching toxic fumes 2013-07-19T06:48:29 < R2COM> dont you make a noise when cutting pcbs? 2013-07-19T06:48:33 < upgrdman> anyway, how would a cnc benefit me other than holes for pth stuff 2013-07-19T06:48:43 < R2COM> simple 2013-07-19T06:48:43 < upgrdman> R2COM: not for very long. 2013-07-19T06:48:50 < R2COM> it will do job faster than you :) 2013-07-19T06:49:03 < upgrdman> im not in a rush ... one hour is plenty fast 2013-07-19T06:49:16 < upgrdman> i just dont want to wait 2+ weeks for china shit on a boat 2013-07-19T06:49:33 < R2COM> fromchina 1 layers are awfully cheap I'm sure 2013-07-19T06:50:06 < upgrdman> well if im going to have a pcb house do it, im not fuckign with 1L. 2013-07-19T06:50:09 < R2COM> making design in advance...what saves time ;) not messing eith etching trash 2013-07-19T06:50:19 < upgrdman> 2L is better of course, i just cant do it at home with the same ease as 1L 2013-07-19T06:55:54 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T06:58:02 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-19T06:58:12 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T07:03:25 < zyp> 2L is not much harder than 1L 2013-07-19T07:03:46 < zyp> I mean, it's just two 1L designs :p 2013-07-19T07:04:11 < dongs> just etch on like 0.8mm single-sided FR4 2013-07-19T07:04:14 < dongs> then glue them together 2013-07-19T07:04:20 < zyp> hah 2013-07-19T07:04:38 < dongs> it'll be better than trying to align bottom side 2013-07-19T07:04:48 < dongs> unless you have some very precize mounting shit 2013-07-19T07:04:53 < dongs> or drill some kinda pilot holes or osmething 2013-07-19T07:04:55 < zyp> I've done 2L designs before, it's pretty easy 2013-07-19T07:04:58 < dongs> to align CNC to inverse side 2013-07-19T07:05:24 < dongs> cool, im getting TS out from demod 2013-07-19T07:05:27 < dongs> looks like everything's working 2013-07-19T07:05:29 < zyp> or rather, I had access to a double-sided UV box 2013-07-19T07:06:00 < dongs> the tuner chip is getting *really* toasty thoi 2013-07-19T07:06:02 < dongs> hmm 2013-07-19T07:06:26 < dongs> wonder if tehre's a reason it has external 1.8VCC option 2013-07-19T07:06:27 < zyp> then you just print both sides on same sheet, fold it over so the layers align, then put the board between 2013-07-19T07:06:32 < zyp> works nicely 2013-07-19T07:06:55 < dongs> acutally burned my finger on it holding it down > 3 seconds. 2013-07-19T07:07:02 < zyp> internal 1.8V regulator? 2013-07-19T07:07:04 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-19T07:07:08 < zyp> from 3.3 or 5? 2013-07-19T07:07:10 < dongs> 3.3 2013-07-19T07:07:29 < zyp> linear, I assume, so it wastes half the power it consumes 2013-07-19T07:07:32 < R2COM> gym time 2013-07-19T07:07:37 < zyp> that's the reason it has external 1.8V option 2013-07-19T07:07:49 < dongs> Operating Temperature T 0 25 85 oC 2013-07-19T07:07:50 < dongs> Junction Temperature Tj - - 125 oC 2013-07-19T07:08:00 < dongs> ya linear 2013-07-19T07:08:06 < dongs> but i'd just use a linear 1.8V anyway 2013-07-19T07:08:12 < dongs> since its for analog shite I guess 2013-07-19T07:08:17 < zyp> then no point 2013-07-19T07:08:27 < dongs> just let it heat? :) 2013-07-19T07:08:51 < zyp> well, ok, you'd move half the power dissipation to the internal reg 2013-07-19T07:08:51 < dongs> time to boot up generator and see if 8mhz works too 2013-07-19T07:09:50 < dongs> its obvious if they allow the option it must be spec'd to be like this. 2013-07-19T07:10:18 < dongs> Low power consumption with 3.3V and 1.8V 2013-07-19T07:10:18 < dongs> dual-supply operation—403mW (digital 2013-07-19T07:10:19 < dongs> terrestrial) 2013-07-19T07:10:19 < dongs> . On-chip voltage regulator enables single 2013-07-19T07:10:20 < dongs> supply 3.3V operation 2013-07-19T07:11:52 < upgrdman> what dmm's do you guys use 2013-07-19T07:11:53 < dongs> on 4L it s hould be a bit better anyway 2013-07-19T07:12:01 < dongs> since its gonna have a nice nearby groundplane 2013-07-19T07:12:05 < upgrdman> i need to buy a non-toy one (>$100) 2013-07-19T07:12:08 < upgrdman> well, want to 2013-07-19T07:12:11 < dongs> i still use my fluke 73 2013-07-19T07:12:15 < dongs> works great 2013-07-19T07:12:19 < dongs> i think there's osmething newer in that series 2013-07-19T07:12:50 < zyp> dongs, it's probably not more hot than the chip on this board I've got here 2013-07-19T07:13:45 < dongs> wtf 2013-07-19T07:14:12 < dongs> ripple on DC/DC actually looks pretty low 2013-07-19T07:14:13 < dongs> surprising 2013-07-19T07:14:14 < zyp> this board pulls over 2A @ 4V 2013-07-19T07:15:43 < zyp> and I assume most of it is consumed by the SoC, because it gets pretty hot 2013-07-19T07:16:08 < dongs> 4V is input I guess? 2013-07-19T07:16:15 < dongs> for sure it goes to like < 1V for vcore? 2013-07-19T07:16:54 < zyp> sure 2013-07-19T07:17:37 < zyp> I'm just going by the number reported by the power supply, hooked to a regulator designed to be powered by a lipo 2013-07-19T07:17:45 < dongs> right 2013-07-19T07:18:44 < zyp> I had some problems the other day, shit was just crashing randomly 2013-07-19T07:19:15 < zyp> then I noticed somebody had touched the power supply and upped it to 4.7V 2013-07-19T07:19:30 < dongs> heh nice 2013-07-19T07:19:32 < zyp> set it back down to 4.0 again, and everything started working fine 2013-07-19T07:19:46 < dongs> is this some phone trash? 2013-07-19T07:19:50 < zyp> yep 2013-07-19T07:19:59 < dongs> get me mipi specs 2013-07-19T07:20:03 < dongs> since youre doin that shit :) 2013-07-19T07:20:30 < zyp> don't have anything to do with that stuff 2013-07-19T07:20:45 < dongs> tuner reports signal level -54dBm 2013-07-19T07:28:09 < dongs> seems I can still receive teevee down to -78dBm 2013-07-19T07:28:18 < dongs> -78 from modulator, which ends up being -82 at tuner 2013-07-19T07:29:21 < zyp> is that good? 2013-07-19T07:31:36 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@186.sub-75-233-160.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T07:31:40 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-19T07:31:59 < dongs> ok for 2L trashboard with mismatched parts, anyway. 2013-07-19T07:32:09 < dongs> bount -81~83 is good 2013-07-19T07:32:11 < dongs> about 2013-07-19T07:32:11 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-19T07:36:08 < dongs> need to try receiving this NOTTV shit 2013-07-19T07:37:44 < dongs> seems to be tuning over entire advertised range which is cool 2013-07-19T07:37:47 < dongs> 44-1ghz 2013-07-19T07:41:10 < dongs> time to declare victory and move this shit to 4L 2013-07-19T07:42:06 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-220-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T07:44:05 < dongs> http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/binary/pdf/corporate/technology/rd/technical_journal/bn/vol14_3/vol14_3_051en.pdf 2013-07-19T07:44:57 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@186.sub-75-233-160.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-19T07:57:05 < dongs> WHICH FOOD WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLICK ON 2013-07-19T08:01:18 < zyp> when it comes to food, I prefer eating it 2013-07-19T08:02:01 < dongs> cant find any info about the acutal frequencyt map of this shit 2013-07-19T08:02:08 < dongs> its from 207.5..222mhz, 33 segments 2013-07-19T08:02:12 < dongs> but no info about subdivision or anything 2013-07-19T08:02:34 < dongs> its not 33 channels of unkoseg, i know that much 2013-07-19T08:02:42 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T08:03:23 < zyp> heh 2013-07-19T08:09:47 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-19T08:14:19 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.173] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T08:15:59 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T08:16:08 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-220-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T08:17:22 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T08:19:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-19T08:21:22 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T08:21:51 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-22-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T08:22:52 < dongs> lol i didnt know mediaflow was dead 2013-07-19T08:22:57 < dongs> or rather mediaFLO 2013-07-19T08:23:02 < dongs> qualcomm got trolled 2013-07-19T08:23:17 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T08:27:32 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-22-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T08:27:55 < zyp> heh 2013-07-19T08:30:34 < dongs> hm seems like 2 companiesa re allocated a pair of 13segment shits and then "unallocated" ~7 segments of unkoseg 2013-07-19T08:30:40 < dongs> still nothing about actual frequency map 2013-07-19T08:34:20 < zyp> are they using the same 1seg-stuff here in korea? I saw a bunch of people on the subway watching tv with those silly antennas sticking out of their phones 2013-07-19T08:34:32 < dongs> no thats T-DMB there 2013-07-19T08:34:35 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-98-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T08:34:45 < zyp> too-dumb? 2013-07-19T08:34:49 < dongs> y 2013-07-19T08:35:00 < dongs> also has satellite DMB 2013-07-19T08:35:05 < dongs> half the satellite was owned by japs 2013-07-19T08:35:10 < dongs> but the service never succeeded here 2013-07-19T08:35:16 < dongs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MobaHo! 2013-07-19T08:35:23 < dongs> ^ faillllll 2013-07-19T08:35:36 < dongs> The company had expected to attract a million subscribers by 2008, but had only reached about a hundred thousand. They ceased operations on March 31, 2009. 2013-07-19T08:35:46 < dongs> nobody fucking wants useless blocky mobile tv 2013-07-19T08:35:50 < zyp> heh 2013-07-19T08:38:13 < dongs> i actually had one of toshiba pcmcia mobaho receivers 2013-07-19T08:38:16 < dongs> it was insanely overengineered 2013-07-19T08:38:20 < dongs> with a ton of custom silicon 2013-07-19T08:38:25 < dongs> im sure they lost a shitload of money on it 2013-07-19T08:38:40 < dongs> plus all ghz+ rf to receive sat signals 2013-07-19T08:38:43 < dongs> without extenral antnna 2013-07-19T08:40:33 < zyp> 2.6 GHz according to that article 2013-07-19T08:40:37 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-19T08:43:26 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-98-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T08:45:10 < dongs> uh oh 2013-07-19T08:45:11 < dongs> nice smoke 2013-07-19T08:45:40 < zyp> what did you break now? 2013-07-19T08:46:00 < dongs> testing jewpad adapters 2013-07-19T08:46:02 < dongs> turned on backlight 2013-07-19T08:46:32 < dongs> oh fuck 2013-07-19T08:46:34 < dongs> the panel is gone 2013-07-19T08:46:34 < dongs> lame. 2013-07-19T08:47:54 < dongs> really need to get some kinda adapter to test this shit 2013-07-19T08:47:59 < dongs> panel FPC wears out 2013-07-19T09:17:08 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-19T09:22:40 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@217.66.159.0] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T09:30:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-19T09:39:40 -!- DanteA [~X@host-47-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T09:45:31 -!- Intelaida_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T09:47:59 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-19T09:48:45 -!- DanteA [~X@host-47-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-19T09:50:23 -!- DanteA [~X@host-239-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T09:54:53 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T09:57:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T10:04:05 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@217.66.159.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T10:07:52 < dongs> ahaha rofl 2013-07-19T10:07:55 < dongs> http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/18/4343382/technical-illusions-valve-augmented-reality-glasses-jeri-ellsworth-rick-johnson 2013-07-19T10:08:03 < dongs> Former Valve hardware engineer Jeri Ellsworth and programmer Rick Johnson spent over a year working on the project at Valve 2013-07-19T10:08:06 < dongs> no fucking wonder it didnt get done 2013-07-19T10:08:13 < dongs> jerry ellisworthless was part of it!!! 2013-07-19T10:08:24 < dongs> attn baird 2013-07-19T10:21:47 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T10:31:03 < qyx_> ok, first seeed order, i am curious what the quality will be 2013-07-19T10:32:12 < dongs> garbage 2013-07-19T10:32:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T10:37:06 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-19T10:42:38 < zyp> qyx_, depends on the complexity and what you expect 2013-07-19T10:45:25 < qyx_> it was on their drc margins, i expect at least working pcb 2013-07-19T10:48:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T10:49:11 < dongs> haha. 2013-07-19T10:49:34 < dongs> i expect you'll have shorts all over pours->traces 2013-07-19T10:49:40 < dongs> and holes drilled by 13 year old girls 2013-07-19T10:49:43 < dongs> manually 2013-07-19T10:50:01 < dongs> so none of htem will be in right place 2013-07-19T10:50:48 < PaulFertser> The seeedstudios pcbs i saw were ok, drills slightly off but not too much, and all at a uniform offset, so it's not hand-drilled for sure! 2013-07-19T10:51:52 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/E08pl.JPG <- dongpcb is not perfectly drilled either 2013-07-19T10:51:56 < zyp> :p 2013-07-19T10:52:22 < dongs> ya, its only off by like 0.01mm instead of 0.5mm 2013-07-19T10:52:24 < PaulFertser> Probably the same offset I saw on seed 2013-07-19T10:52:28 < zyp> or rather, drills looks good, but layer seems to be off a bit 2013-07-19T10:52:29 < zyp> :p 2013-07-19T10:54:15 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/bIChx.jpg <- I'd say this seeed board is slightly worse 2013-07-19T10:54:55 < zyp> esp. when considerin that both pads and drills are larger IIRC 2013-07-19T10:55:02 < PaulFertser> Just measured, the it's about 0.2mm off here. 2013-07-19T11:06:33 < dongs> haha 2013-07-19T11:06:34 < dongs> it works 2013-07-19T11:06:38 < dongs> i guess reading spec helps 2013-07-19T11:06:41 < dongs> doesnt look like shit is encrypted 2013-07-19T11:06:42 < dongs> lols 2013-07-19T11:06:53 < dongs> also looks empty 2013-07-19T11:06:58 < dongs> all i get is colorbars 2013-07-19T11:07:47 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/gKNVzn54.html 2013-07-19T11:10:38 < dongs> ah there's crypto shit 2013-07-19T11:11:04 < dongs> NOTTV1 2013-07-19T11:12:32 < dongs> Descriptor: Digital Copy Control Descriptor Control: Copy is forbidden Copy Control Type: 1 APS Control Data: 0 2013-07-19T11:12:35 < dongs> haha 2013-07-19T11:13:41 < dongs> zyp's favorite program http://bcas.tv/paste/results/LkAHnh21.html 2013-07-19T11:21:23 < zyp> heh 2013-07-19T11:31:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T11:33:26 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T11:34:42 < jpa-> johntramp: 0xe0042000 means no chip.. so either you have disconnected the two SWD jumpers, or you are going to halt/powerdown right after boot 2013-07-19T11:34:43 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T11:35:14 < jpa-> johntramp: if it is the latter problem, you need to connect under reset 2013-07-19T11:35:17 -!- DanteA [~X@host-239-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-19T11:35:26 < jpa-> johntramp: openocd might be able to do that out-of-the-box, but i haven't tried 2013-07-19T11:35:59 < jpa-> johntramp: with st-flash, you can try holding down the reset button until the first few texts pop into the screen.. if you hold too long, it will say "cannot run flash loader program" 2013-07-19T11:37:21 < jpa-> johntramp: ah 2013-07-19T11:37:28 < jpa-> johntramp: just now saw that you got it fixed :D 2013-07-19T11:46:51 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T11:58:03 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-131-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T12:21:47 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-19T12:39:46 <+Steffanx> PaulFertser, the bmp source you say "How do we use gdb's gettimeofday?" i was wondering what the problem is here. 2013-07-19T12:39:55 <+Steffanx> (in the semihost handling ) 2013-07-19T12:40:25 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T12:40:52 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: iirc gdb protocol assumes there's some memory location to where the timedate struct should be written. And arm's semihosting doesn't assume a memory location. So translating between them is a bit complicated. 2013-07-19T12:41:46 <+Steffanx> Ah, i see 2013-07-19T12:44:09 <+Steffanx> Wonderful. Not that it's really required, but it's a fancy feature :) 2013-07-19T12:44:50 <+Steffanx> Anyway, it works now even with newlib-nano :) 2013-07-19T12:45:11 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: wow, what was the trick? 2013-07-19T12:45:36 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T12:45:40 <+Steffanx> Actually, maybe a little obvious. For newlib-nano i had to include some syscalls :P 2013-07-19T12:45:53 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: what do you mean? 2013-07-19T12:45:56 <+Steffanx> Actually only _sbrk_r 2013-07-19T12:46:27 < PaulFertser> Isn't it included in librdimon already? 2013-07-19T12:47:12 <+Steffanx> Not sure, but it doesn't work in combination with chibios 2013-07-19T12:48:32 <+Steffanx> So now chibios allocates the memory it works. 2013-07-19T12:52:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T12:54:24 <+Steffanx> Anyway, im not sure why it's not required for newlib, but is for newlib-nano, but i guess i miss something obvious again 2013-07-19T13:04:00 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T13:10:09 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T13:19:16 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T13:24:27 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@155.sub-75-196-71.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T13:25:02 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-19T13:29:39 < akaWolf> ^) 2013-07-19T13:30:18 <+Steffanx> i agree akaWolf 2013-07-19T13:31:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T13:32:35 < akaWolf> Steffanx: is something wrong? ) 2013-07-19T13:32:56 <+Steffanx> No, no, but you said "^)" :) 2013-07-19T13:35:43 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@2001:0:4137:9e76:1c63:1a8:9f80:22cd] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T13:38:31 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-19T13:38:31 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-19T13:43:13 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T13:45:49 -!- englishman [~englishma@2001:0:4137:9e76:1c63:1a8:9f80:22cd] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-19T13:45:49 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-19T13:49:09 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T13:50:26 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@155.sub-75-196-71.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-19T13:53:38 < baird> Rick Johnson has bigger tits than Jeri.. 2013-07-19T13:54:04 <+Steffanx> Thanks for the info baird 2013-07-19T13:55:00 < baird> \o/ 2013-07-19T14:02:39 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-19T14:02:49 < dongs> < `nico> how do you get fired from a company where you don't report to anyone and your peers review your performance? 2013-07-19T14:03:00 < dongs> ^ re: ellisworthless 2013-07-19T14:03:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T14:07:19 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T14:07:58 < baird> ..and there's no set projects for anyone, where people can drift from one to the next at will. 2013-07-19T14:08:34 < dongs> so point is one can only get fired from that kinda work only if they're utterly worthless. 2013-07-19T14:08:37 < dongs> .. kinda like jeri. 2013-07-19T14:08:38 < dongs> amirite?? 2013-07-19T14:09:28 <+Steffanx> Really what is the point of this dongs? Just your daily rant or .. ? Be a man and talk about your icons when they're here :) 2013-07-19T14:09:51 < dongs> Steffanx: truth isnt ranting 2013-07-19T14:10:10 <+Steffanx> Your truth isn't my truth. 2013-07-19T14:10:22 <+Steffanx> I mean: Your truth doesn't make it the truth 2013-07-19T14:11:47 < baird> Gee, and I suppose your truth is the channel truth after you get ban-happy.. 2013-07-19T14:13:51 <+Steffanx> Blablabla baird. It's just don't see the point of pointing things about all these people out all the time. Except for 'being funny' 2013-07-19T14:14:31 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.6] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T14:14:49 <+Steffanx> I guess I haven't been on /b/ enough to understand all this. 2013-07-19T14:17:05 < baird> So why are you whinging? Are you going to threaten us? 2013-07-19T14:17:31 <+Steffanx> You would like that uh? 2013-07-19T14:17:31 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T14:17:33 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-131-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-19T14:19:22 < dongs> haha 2013-07-19T14:19:23 <+Steffanx> Why should i threaten you? I am just wondering WHAT the point of all this is. 2013-07-19T14:21:17 < dongs> mostly dongs, i think 2013-07-19T14:21:41 <+Steffanx> Mostly you. I guess it's a try to push on the right button of your sound board. 2013-07-19T14:21:46 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T14:22:18 <+Steffanx> He succeeded though :P 2013-07-19T14:23:21 <+Steffanx> Go play with this baird: http://www.primeserver.nl/meuk/NrgSoundBoard/ . It's dutch, but who cares? 2013-07-19T14:25:57 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-19T14:29:32 < dongs> any of you pros know what this connector is? http://i.imgur.com/tR7hMgd.jpg 2013-07-19T14:31:42 < jpa-> pluggable terminal block, but exact type.. 2013-07-19T14:31:56 * baird can't into flash because Netbsd ;_; 2013-07-19T14:33:21 < jpa-> dongs: maybe http://fi.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1827703/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsDddcp1dBDJOrXMrFmZFLlqEoljlgRy2k%3d but check the pitch 2013-07-19T14:33:34 < dongs> yeah man i was JUST looking at that 2013-07-19T14:34:40 < dongs> phoenix mstb series 2013-07-19T14:34:41 < dongs> or soemthing 2013-07-19T14:34:41 < dongs> ok 2013-07-19T14:36:40 <+Steffanx> Pretty expensive for a 2 pin connector :S 2013-07-19T14:37:32 < jpa-> if screws are not needed, there are cheaper alternatives 2013-07-19T14:37:46 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T14:37:48 < dongs> not my money 2013-07-19T14:37:55 < dongs> someone actualyl wants that on a pcb 2013-07-19T14:37:57 < jpa-> i guess two screws at the sides make it a high-end product ;) 2013-07-19T14:37:58 < dongs> their problem. 2013-07-19T14:38:00 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-19T14:38:44 <+Steffanx> It's always nice to spend other peoples money 2013-07-19T14:46:13 < Laurenceb> too hot :( 2013-07-19T14:46:23 < Laurenceb> 34C in my office 2013-07-19T14:49:12 < baird> Pantless Friday 2013-07-19T14:49:20 < dongs> haha 2013-07-19T14:51:48 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T14:52:01 < Laurenceb> my chair feels like its burning hot.. 2013-07-19T15:13:22 < Laurenceb> more like pointless friday 2013-07-19T15:13:32 < Laurenceb> but thats always the case 2013-07-19T15:22:00 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-19T15:22:15 < Laurenceb> my imap server has a bad SSL signature 2013-07-19T15:22:19 < Laurenceb> WTF 2013-07-19T15:25:08 < dongs> lunix??? 2013-07-19T15:26:58 < Laurenceb> microshaft server aiui 2013-07-19T15:27:07 < Laurenceb> work server 2013-07-19T15:27:31 < Laurenceb> im getting haxored by nsa 2013-07-19T15:33:00 < Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/19/steve_bong_national_curriculum/ 2013-07-19T15:33:02 < Laurenceb> i lolled 2013-07-19T15:51:10 < Laurenceb> http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=46398 2013-07-19T16:00:02 < Laurenceb> http://www.spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av040/status.html 2013-07-19T16:01:37 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@15.135.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T16:08:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T16:12:10 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-19T16:17:39 < dongs> ALLOW THAT SOFTWARE TO BE STORED 2013-07-19T16:36:57 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T16:40:08 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-131-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T16:44:31 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-131-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T17:02:22 < Laurenceb> http://www.braxtonhigby.com/Electrodes.html 2013-07-19T17:02:26 < Laurenceb> lolception 2013-07-19T17:02:36 < Laurenceb> fail at every level 2013-07-19T17:05:59 < dongs> Laurenceb: oh, is that your scambiz? 2013-07-19T17:06:04 < dongs> sounds like kinda shit you'd be doing 2013-07-19T17:06:05 < Laurenceb> those werent the electrodes i was looking for... 2013-07-19T17:06:18 < Laurenceb> or the pro html... 2013-07-19T17:06:21 < dongs> haha 2013-07-19T17:08:06 <+Steffanx> the html isn't that bad Laurenceb. 2013-07-19T17:08:11 <+Steffanx> but it looks generated 2013-07-19T17:12:38 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@15.135.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T17:16:08 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-19T17:19:30 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-56-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T17:33:22 < Laurenceb> arggg 2013-07-19T17:33:29 < Laurenceb> fucking ST 2013-07-19T17:33:40 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-19T17:33:41 < Laurenceb> more users reporting locked up accelerometers 2013-07-19T17:34:31 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T17:34:57 <+Steffanx> you used that one in your logger? 2013-07-19T17:35:41 < Laurenceb> theres 16 in my vehicle logger 2013-07-19T17:35:52 < Laurenceb> some of them lock up due to STs fail VHDL 2013-07-19T17:36:02 < Laurenceb> they cant write a fifo buffer 2013-07-19T17:36:30 < dongs> i would guess 2013-07-19T17:36:35 < dongs> tehy're locking up due to lack of spaces 2013-07-19T17:36:37 < dongs> in your code 2013-07-19T17:37:09 < Laurenceb> at this rate im going to have to take all the hardware back 2013-07-19T17:37:15 < Laurenceb> and replace with freesacale accels 2013-07-19T17:38:10 < dongs> feescale 2013-07-19T17:38:15 < dongs> feescale should be way hceaper too 2013-07-19T17:38:23 < dongs> they're ~80c in qty 2013-07-19T17:38:28 < dongs> what does ST want for thier warez? 2013-07-19T17:39:21 < Laurenceb> dunno 2013-07-19T17:39:27 < Laurenceb> but ST cant write a FIFO 2013-07-19T17:39:44 < Laurenceb> so i have to haxor it to work using galaxy s4 driver codez 2013-07-19T17:39:52 < Laurenceb> which still fails sometimes 2013-07-19T17:40:31 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-56-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T17:40:37 < dongs> stolen opensauce code doesnt work, what a surprise 2013-07-19T17:46:22 < Laurenceb> nope - ST hardware doesnt 2013-07-19T17:46:33 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-19T17:46:34 < Laurenceb> there fifo is more like first in random out 2013-07-19T17:47:12 < Laurenceb> galaxy code fixes ordering, but sometimes the st accel hardware just locks up 2013-07-19T17:47:23 <+Steffanx> Maybe you shouldn't have used this in the final product in the first place? :) 2013-07-19T17:47:37 < Laurenceb> i needed small gyro+accel 2013-07-19T17:47:45 < Laurenceb> at the time it was the only ic that would do it 2013-07-19T17:47:52 <+Steffanx> Yeah, but you knew about the issues.. 2013-07-19T17:47:57 <+Steffanx> oh, ok 2013-07-19T17:48:27 < Laurenceb> but yeah i might replace the hardware with something that works 2013-07-19T17:48:56 <+Steffanx> And you are SURE it's not your fault? 2013-07-19T17:49:24 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-20-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T17:49:32 < Laurenceb> YES 2013-07-19T17:50:20 < Laurenceb> to be fair, error is about once every 1K hours 2013-07-19T17:52:31 < jpa-> is it the LSM303DLHC crap? 2013-07-19T17:54:24 < Laurenceb> no 2013-07-19T17:54:49 < Laurenceb> LSM330DLC 2013-07-19T17:54:55 < jpa-> so st has more failometers also :) 2013-07-19T17:56:54 <+Steffanx> The same 'code' is probably used for them? 2013-07-19T17:57:07 <+Steffanx> or does the 303 have other issues jpa-? 2013-07-19T17:58:13 < jpa-> well.. atleast it is poorly documented if nothing else 2013-07-19T17:58:29 < Laurenceb> i dont think it has fifo 2013-07-19T17:58:41 < jpa-> i haven't encoutered the lockup issue, but it has all kinds of fun stuff 2013-07-19T17:58:57 < Laurenceb> im using it on some boards 2013-07-19T17:59:02 < Laurenceb> works ok 2013-07-19T18:00:51 < jpa-> i couldn't get the interrupts working correctly 2013-07-19T18:01:15 < jpa-> when an interrupt occurred on the magnetometer side, it pulled SCL low for some reason, which stops I2C 2013-07-19T18:04:07 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@15.135.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:04:37 < zyp> almost sounds like you have interrupt line shorted to scl :p 2013-07-19T18:04:56 < jpa-> never found out 2013-07-19T18:05:04 -!- pluto97 [~bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:05:06 < jpa-> i no longer have the hardware so i guess i'll never find out 2013-07-19T18:11:17 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:11:51 < Laurenceb> sounds like a short to me 2013-07-19T18:11:55 < Laurenceb> i got that working fine 2013-07-19T18:12:28 < Laurenceb> think i may have found the issue... 2013-07-19T18:12:40 < Laurenceb> faulty cable connector 2013-07-19T18:12:55 < Laurenceb> it might have been getting noise on the i2c 2013-07-19T18:18:45 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-19T18:19:10 < Laurenceb> ill release new firmware to power cycle the sensors.. 2013-07-19T18:19:59 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-249-29.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:22:27 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:24:35 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@119.sub-75-196-113.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:25:34 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-19T18:28:35 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-19T18:29:08 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@15.135.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-19T18:33:25 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:35:17 < Tectu> guys, what's the correct term for the stdperiph library? 2013-07-19T18:35:33 < Tectu> a correct term I might place on a website and people will know what's meant 2013-07-19T18:35:40 < Tectu> also that nobody is going to sue me 2013-07-19T18:36:04 -!- DanteA [~X@host-111-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T18:37:36 < Thorn> SPL (Standard Peripherals Library) 2013-07-19T18:37:48 < jpa-> "STM32 Standard Peripherals Library" is used in some places 2013-07-19T18:37:48 < Thorn> if I'm not too mistaken 2013-07-19T18:37:57 < jpa-> haven't seen it called "SPL" anywhere 2013-07-19T18:38:35 < jpa-> sometimes it has "peripherals" and sometimes just "peripheral" 2013-07-19T18:40:21 < Tectu> so it's not just me - there's no official term? 2013-07-19T18:40:44 < jpa-> well what i said is used in the stdperiph packages as they come from ST 2013-07-19T18:42:11 < Tectu> good 2013-07-19T18:42:12 < Tectu> thank you 2013-07-19T18:43:10 * jpa- the zip file opener 2013-07-19T18:43:40 < Tectu> find . -name '*.zip' -exec unzip -o {} \; 2013-07-19T18:44:55 -!- pluto97 [~bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [Quit: Hmmm. 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2013-07-19T21:29:33 < PaulFertser> By closing it if the licence prohibits that. 2013-07-19T21:29:45 < PaulFertser> Or by misattributing it. 2013-07-19T21:31:02 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T21:44:31 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@34.sub-75-244-128.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-19T21:45:41 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@247.sub-75-233-180.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T21:46:33 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-19T21:55:46 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-19T22:07:19 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T22:07:39 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-19T22:08:03 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T22:09:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.172.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T22:20:34 < someone_r> hi 2013-07-19T22:20:57 < someone_r> so i just switched from COide to Eclipse... as IDE 2013-07-19T22:21:32 < someone_r> now i would like to flash the code into my discovery board...how i can do that? 2013-07-19T22:21:54 < someone_r> i was thinking openOCD but it works on jtag... 2013-07-19T22:22:02 < someone_r> i a a little confused 2013-07-19T22:22:09 < someone_r> am 2013-07-19T22:26:04 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T22:28:55 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-19T22:28:55 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-19T22:29:48 < jpa-> someone_r: openocd works also with swd 2013-07-19T22:30:53 <+Steffanx> What is the reason to switch someone_r? 2013-07-19T22:31:04 <+Steffanx> isnt coide also eclipse + some addons? 2013-07-19T22:33:16 < someone_r> well i am not so good in software so i have a lot of confusion 2013-07-19T22:33:54 < someone_r> basically untill now i tried cooide and it works preatty good.. i just connect the discovery board by usb 2013-07-19T22:33:58 < someone_r> and flash the new code 2013-07-19T22:34:18 < someone_r> now i want to modify a large project from crazie flie 2013-07-19T22:34:55 < someone_r> but i am not sure how i have to open their project files.. so i see that they use elclipse... s 2013-07-19T22:35:09 < someone_r> so i will use it too for making stuff easier... 2013-07-19T22:35:25 < someone_r> or at least this is what i believe... 2013-07-19T22:35:56 < someone_r> but again also in eclipse i cannot find a project file to be imported... 2013-07-19T22:36:10 < someone_r> so i am really confused 2013-07-19T22:38:45 <+Steffanx> You cannot just import a folder into coide? 2013-07-19T22:41:05 < someone_r> is this work? O_o 2013-07-19T22:41:16 < someone_r> can i do that? 2013-07-19T22:42:07 <+Steffanx> not sure 2013-07-19T22:42:22 <+Steffanx> but i would be surprised if they removed that functionality 2013-07-19T22:43:13 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-19T22:43:15 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-19T22:43:57 < someone_r> BUILD FAILED 2013-07-19T22:43:57 < someone_r> Output filename conflict: startup_stm32f10x_hd.o would be produced from C:\CooCox\CoIDE\workspace\Crazyflie\lib\CMSIS\Core\CM3\startup\gcc\startup_stm32f10x_hd.s and startup_stm32f10x_hd.s 2013-07-19T22:43:57 < someone_r> Total time: 0 seconds 2013-07-19T22:44:27 < someone_r> i tried to import all the files into a new project 2013-07-19T22:44:35 < someone_r> but it does not build it 2013-07-19T22:46:11 -!- emeb [~ericb@71-220-233-98.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-19T22:53:58 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T22:56:46 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T23:01:01 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T23:08:25 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-19T23:12:35 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-19T23:13:06 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T23:26:18 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T23:27:02 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-235-201.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T23:37:19 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-19T23:40:16 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-19T23:43:40 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-19T23:44:31 < zyp> *yawn* 2013-07-19T23:44:43 < jpa-> hello zyp 2013-07-19T23:44:59 < zyp> there should be laws against flights leaving this early 2013-07-19T23:46:00 < jpa-> did you have hotel atleast? 2013-07-19T23:46:30 < zyp> sure 2013-07-19T23:47:14 < jpa-> i hate flights leaving at 6 AM.. i'm often too cheap to have a hotel for the short night so i just sleep very badly at the airport 2013-07-19T23:47:53 < jpa-> with ryanair flights costing about 30e, it seems like such a waste to pay 100e for a hotel :P 2013-07-19T23:48:07 < zyp> this is leaving at 9, but i also need to get to the airport 2013-07-19T23:48:26 < jpa-> it takes so long to get to the airport? 2013-07-19T23:49:02 < zyp> 60-90 minutes they say 2013-07-19T23:49:51 < jpa-> huh, it's far? 2013-07-19T23:50:43 < zyp> yes, incheon airport is a bit outside seoul 2013-07-19T23:59:53 <+Steffanx> ryanair.. you like to die jpa-? --- Day changed Sat Jul 20 2013 2013-07-20T00:00:38 <+Steffanx> and you must be a tiny boy. Or just have very short legs 2013-07-20T00:00:47 < jpa-> Steffanx: well i'm somewhat suicidal, but statistically i don't think ryanair is that dangerous 2013-07-20T00:00:47 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T00:01:10 < zyp> just shitty 2013-07-20T00:01:24 < jpa-> yeah, wouldn't use for long flights 2013-07-20T00:01:31 < jpa-> but i only travel in europe anyway 2013-07-20T00:01:33 <+Steffanx> Yeah, no space for your legs at all. Im happy my ryanair flight was only ~1.5 hours 2013-07-20T00:01:44 < zyp> I flew with them once, never again 2013-07-20T00:02:00 <+Steffanx> im cheap so i will :) 2013-07-20T00:02:20 < zyp> twice if you count the return flight 2013-07-20T00:03:06 <+Steffanx> The pilot actually did a nice landing in the finnish cross wind 2013-07-20T00:04:40 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@247.sub-75-233-180.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-20T00:06:32 <+Steffanx> zyp has to go to amsterdam again? 2013-07-20T00:06:54 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T00:07:01 < zyp> yep 2013-07-20T00:07:50 < Laurenceb_> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/FM147/CL1794/SC961/SS1533/PF258513?ecmp=pf258513_fp_mcunl_jul2013 2013-07-20T00:07:52 < Laurenceb_> lolling 2013-07-20T00:08:23 < jpa-> why? 2013-07-20T00:08:54 < Laurenceb_> simulink is fail 2013-07-20T00:09:11 < jpa-> so is IAR 2013-07-20T00:11:35 < Laurenceb_> wut 2013-07-20T00:11:43 < Laurenceb_> it produces decent code 2013-07-20T00:13:26 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-20T00:14:04 <+Steffanx> and is windows ony; 2013-07-20T00:14:06 <+Steffanx> only 2013-07-20T00:18:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.160.12] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T00:23:39 < Laurenceb_> still better than arduino 2013-07-20T00:27:42 <+Steffanx> it does work with gcc Laurenceb_? 2013-07-20T00:27:59 <+Steffanx> oh atollic is gcc of course 2013-07-20T00:28:24 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T00:28:29 <+Steffanx> or isnt it 2013-07-20T00:32:54 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-20T00:48:45 < someone_r> hey is still me... with a question on programming the STM32 2013-07-20T00:49:00 < someone_r> i can build the code by using eclipse... 2013-07-20T00:49:13 < someone_r> not i have the discovery board that is attached by USB 2013-07-20T00:49:21 < someone_r> and i want to flash the code inside 2013-07-20T00:49:26 < someone_r> how can i do it? 2013-07-20T00:49:59 < BrainDamage> use a flashing tool 2013-07-20T00:50:14 < BrainDamage> ie a program that interfaces with the stlink programmer chip 2013-07-20T00:50:20 < BrainDamage> and sends it your binary file 2013-07-20T00:50:33 < BrainDamage> the program can either be invoked from eclipse or independently 2013-07-20T00:50:34 < someone_r> like openocd? 2013-07-20T00:50:41 < BrainDamage> openocd is one 2013-07-20T00:50:48 < BrainDamage> alternatively there's texane's utility 2013-07-20T00:51:03 < someone_r> but openoncd is able to flash in the USB? 2013-07-20T00:51:26 < BrainDamage> you want to flash trough usb, or trough the programming chip on the discovery board? 2013-07-20T00:51:29 < BrainDamage> there's quite a difference 2013-07-20T00:51:40 < BrainDamage> to flash using usb directly, you want a dfu uploader 2013-07-20T00:52:02 < someone_r> my really final goal is to flash a discrete stm32 2013-07-20T00:52:29 < someone_r> until now i was programmin it using the discovery board 2013-07-20T00:52:37 < someone_r> removing the jumpers 2013-07-20T00:53:06 < someone_r> i was doing all this by using coide...there is a nice button FLASH 2013-07-20T00:53:31 < someone_r> you press it and it flash your code inside the discovery board(wich is attached by usb)... 2013-07-20T00:53:42 < BrainDamage> you still didn't answer my question 2013-07-20T00:53:44 < someone_r> now i went to eclipse... 2013-07-20T00:53:51 < someone_r> and i want to do the same 2013-07-20T00:54:05 < BrainDamage> I am guessing you want to use the stlink chip 2013-07-20T00:54:05 < someone_r> programming chip 2013-07-20T00:54:10 < someone_r> yes 2013-07-20T00:54:18 < someone_r> is that easier right? 2013-07-20T00:54:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.160.12] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-20T00:54:24 < BrainDamage> yes 2013-07-20T00:54:26 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-20T00:54:30 < someone_r> good than yes... 2013-07-20T00:54:37 < Thorn> if you're on windows you can use the official st-link utility, it has a nice button 2013-07-20T00:54:52 < BrainDamage> http://www.chibios.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=chibios:guides:stlink_eclipse 2013-07-20T00:55:04 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-20T00:55:08 < BrainDamage> this is how to configure eclipse to use the tool from texane 2013-07-20T00:55:29 < BrainDamage> that in turn interfaces with the stlink chip on the discovery board 2013-07-20T00:55:42 < someone_r> it is a little more complicated... i am using windows... but eclipse is running on a Linux virtual machine 2013-07-20T00:55:44 < someone_r> :S 2013-07-20T00:56:13 < BrainDamage> read the link 2013-07-20T00:56:18 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-20T00:57:33 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-20T00:58:11 < BrainDamage> in linux it's almost identical except you'll have to either compile st-link or include it from a distro package 2013-07-20T00:58:36 < BrainDamage> ( and perhaps set up usb permissions with a udev rule, included in the stlink repository ) 2013-07-20T01:05:35 < someone_r> cool thank you! 2013-07-20T01:05:46 < someone_r> very usefull 2013-07-20T01:05:52 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-20T01:06:05 < someone_r> so basically when build my project with eclipse 2013-07-20T01:06:16 < someone_r> it create also HEX file and BIN file.. 2013-07-20T01:06:35 < someone_r> i can choose one of them and flash it by using ST LINK 2013-07-20T01:06:44 < someone_r> direclty right? 2013-07-20T01:13:33 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T01:20:47 <+Steffanx> i used eclipse for a while.. i just press run to flash ( and debug ) 2013-07-20T01:21:26 <+Steffanx> everything is in that tutorial BrainDamage linked to 2013-07-20T01:25:54 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-20T01:42:51 -!- FmOut [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1359959821/open-source-programmable-hand-held-console 2013-07-20T05:05:40 < dongs> fucker stole my idea 2013-07-20T05:09:04 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T05:13:32 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kwang/mini-itx-motherboard-for-the-raspberry-pi-fairywre 2013-07-20T05:13:36 < dongs> what. 2013-07-20T05:19:33 < upgrdman> so many idiots 2013-07-20T05:19:44 < dongs> attn baird http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/shota/tailly-the-tail-that-wags-when-you-get-excited 2013-07-20T05:19:56 < upgrdman> lets buy a $35 pc, then spend hundrends on accessories 2013-07-20T05:20:28 < Thorn> what, that game console is going to run on an f4 without any external ram? 2013-07-20T05:20:59 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-20T05:23:20 < dongs> they didnt steal that part. 2013-07-20T05:23:35 < dongs> i was gonna use F429 or wahtever w/sdram and have hdmi out. 2013-07-20T05:24:49 < Thorn> why the hell does that furry need £60,000 for a production run of 3000 2013-07-20T05:25:02 < dongs> heh 2013-07-20T06:15:56 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T06:16:04 < R2COM> It's not easy to be greasy! 2013-07-20T06:18:01 < R2COM> http://i.imgur.com/qySmKti.png 2013-07-20T06:18:04 < R2COM> http://i.imgur.com/OUeQTx8.png 2013-07-20T06:18:12 < R2COM> http://i.imgur.com/iLQ6fhI.jpg 2013-07-20T06:18:20 < R2COM> http://i.imgur.com/N9i5aD4.jpg 2013-07-20T06:19:01 < R2COM> fab couldnt do oval cutouts for USB body connectors, so I made a bigger holes and added lots of solder for mechanical iintegrity 2013-07-20T06:19:10 < R2COM> its ft232-SPI breakout 2013-07-20T06:32:46 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T06:38:13 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-20T06:39:46 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.8] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T06:49:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T06:55:32 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of the world? 2013-07-20T16:27:19 < zyp> certainly not neither where I am or where I came from 2013-07-20T16:29:28 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/?h=qemu <- finished up some fun stuff on the plane though 2013-07-20T16:30:13 < zyp> looked a bit through qemu source too, but I were missing a dep, so I couldn't build it 2013-07-20T16:30:27 < zyp> so I didn't bother attempting anything with it yet 2013-07-20T16:32:43 <+Steffanx> and what part of the world is zyp in? 2013-07-20T16:32:47 < dongs> israel 2013-07-20T16:33:01 < zyp> the wrong, obviously 2013-07-20T16:33:17 <+Steffanx> and does that part have a name? 2013-07-20T16:33:25 < Laurenceb_> north korea 2013-07-20T16:33:26 < zyp> everybody is speaking french to be, and that certainly can't be a good thing 2013-07-20T16:33:33 < zyp> me* 2013-07-20T16:33:35 < Laurenceb_> canada? 2013-07-20T16:35:02 <+Steffanx> An airplane goes that way around? 2013-07-20T16:35:09 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-20T16:35:46 < Laurenceb_> tail first? 2013-07-20T16:36:42 <+Steffanx> That's how you would do it, but that wasn't the way around i meant. 2013-07-20T16:37:09 < zyp> wtf 2013-07-20T16:37:14 < zyp> I'm talking about france 2013-07-20T16:37:29 < zyp> I'm stuck here for some hours 2013-07-20T16:37:46 < zyp> before I invade your country again 2013-07-20T16:38:06 <+Steffanx> You go from korea, to france, to the netherlands to norway? Wonderful journey :) 2013-07-20T16:38:18 < zyp> yeah 2013-07-20T16:38:20 < dongs> it just gets gayer as trip progresses 2013-07-20T16:38:29 < zyp> apparently the seoul-amsterdam flight was full 2013-07-20T16:38:29 < Laurenceb_> haha 2013-07-20T16:38:56 < zyp> dongs, nah, I think I'm at the peak now 2013-07-20T16:39:09 < Laurenceb_> oui 2013-07-20T16:39:32 < Laurenceb_> baguette? 2013-07-20T16:39:34 <+Steffanx> Je ne parle pas français. 2013-07-20T16:39:55 <+Steffanx> c'est UNE baquette. Laurenceb_ :P 2013-07-20T16:39:58 <+Steffanx> So far my french 2013-07-20T16:40:09 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-20T16:40:19 < zyp> I'm thinking that the next time somebody talks to me in french I'll reply in norwegian 2013-07-20T16:41:25 <+Steffanx> Just say "je ne parle pas français" in your best french 2013-07-20T16:41:26 < Laurenceb_> whenever i travel to London theres French everywhere 2013-07-20T16:41:32 < Laurenceb_> tax exiles i gues 2013-07-20T16:41:51 < zyp> Steffanx, I'm in a too grumpy mood for that :p 2013-07-20T16:51:07 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/test.py?h=qemu <- oh, I also made some fun stuff to control qemu 2013-07-20T16:52:53 < zyp> «control» 2013-07-20T17:00:49 <+Steffanx> semihosting is really hot these days :D 2013-07-20T17:03:03 < zyp> well, if you're testing in qemu anyway, why not 2013-07-20T17:10:05 < jpa-> zyp: so systick works reasonably well in qemu stellaris emulation? 2013-07-20T17:10:35 < zyp> yep 2013-07-20T17:10:43 < jpa-> good 2013-07-20T17:10:49 < jpa-> i might be able to get rid of my hack :) 2013-07-20T17:10:49 < zyp> you can run that code and see for yourself 2013-07-20T17:11:11 < jpa-> run someone else's code?!? crazy talk :) 2013-07-20T17:11:24 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/b5nZ9 <- spoiler: it'll look like this 2013-07-20T17:11:41 < zyp> (if you run it with time) 2013-07-20T17:12:03 <+Steffanx> remilia :P 2013-07-20T17:13:39 < zyp> ya, that's my laptop 2013-07-20T17:13:48 <+Steffanx> What is the advantage of that over the standard qemu view? 2013-07-20T17:14:07 < zyp> I'm timestamping every line 2013-07-20T17:18:31 < dongs> retweet https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L0Zeblbk6pU/UTEWs6JVM7I/AAAAAAAABhE/tldmxd5lDAY/s640/IMG_1581%255B1%255D.JPG 2013-07-20T17:26:34 < dongs> k finally got debounce working properly 2013-07-20T17:28:22 < karlp> heh, zyp I'm currently poking a python script for timestamping the serial output too. 2013-07-20T17:29:49 < inca> dongs: not enough stamps 2013-07-20T17:40:34 < dongs> zyp: finally fucking pulling up DP_EN. got fucking tired of shit resetting the board heh 2013-07-20T17:41:10 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-20T17:41:26 < zyp> :p 2013-07-20T17:41:28 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T17:47:31 < dongs> hm 2013-07-20T17:47:36 < dongs> brightness isnt actually changing 2013-07-20T17:47:36 < dongs> weird 2013-07-20T17:47:42 < dongs> it only works once on reset 2013-07-20T17:48:04 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-249-29.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T17:48:05 -!- capacitor [7bf38bbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.187] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-20T17:48:10 < dongs> i think i have to turn something off to change brightness first 2013-07-20T17:49:20 < zyp> I saw some similar weird behavior 2013-07-20T17:50:49 < dongs> oh 2013-07-20T17:50:53 < dongs> i can configure chip for PWM too 2013-07-20T17:51:07 < dongs> pwm brightness. 2013-07-20T17:51:30 < dongs> it also gets kinda hot. duno if thats normal 2013-07-20T17:59:00 < dongs> why hte fuck isnt brightness setting changing shit 2013-07-20T18:01:21 < zyp> try going lower on scale 2013-07-20T18:01:34 < dongs> i cycled through 0..ff 2013-07-20T18:01:38 < dongs> at runtime 2013-07-20T18:01:40 < dongs> if i set it once it works 2013-07-20T18:01:41 < dongs> at pwoer up 2013-07-20T18:01:46 < dongs> after that it doesnt 2013-07-20T18:25:01 < zyp> dongs, found this for you: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/435742530/udoo-android-linux-arduino-in-a-tiny-single-board 2013-07-20T18:25:07 < zyp> or has it been trolled already? 2013-07-20T18:25:24 < dongs> odl 2013-07-20T18:25:26 < dongs> old 2013-07-20T18:25:56 < zyp> haven't seen it before 2013-07-20T18:25:56 < dongs> The power of 4 Raspberry PI + Arduino DUE functionality = UDOO 2013-07-20T18:26:07 < dongs> i found some amazing dickstarter shit today 2013-07-20T18:26:10 < zyp> somebody just asked for my opinion of it 2013-07-20T18:26:12 < dongs> < dongs> attn baird 2013-07-20T18:26:13 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/shota/tailly-the-tail-that-wags-when-you-get-excited 2013-07-20T18:26:19 < zyp> hah 2013-07-20T18:26:19 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kwang/mini-itx-motherboard-for-the-raspberry-pi-fairywre 2013-07-20T18:26:26 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1359959821/open-source-programmable-hand-held-console 2013-07-20T18:27:28 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T18:28:45 < zyp> heh, F4 2013-07-20T18:28:54 < dongs> yes 2013-07-20T18:28:58 < dongs> and no external ram at all 2013-07-20T18:29:03 < dongs> and running .NetMF 2013-07-20T18:29:08 < dongs> sounds like recipe for fail 2013-07-20T18:30:21 <+Steffanx> At least they didn't ask for 100.000 or more $ 2013-07-20T18:30:28 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-249-29.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-20T18:31:29 < dongs> da fuq 2013-07-20T18:31:49 < dongs> BL_CTL = 0 after that I cant set it back to 1 2013-07-20T18:31:54 < dongs> to turn on panel 2013-07-20T18:33:22 < zyp> heh 2013-07-20T18:36:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@adsl-67-126-149-205.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T18:36:39 < dongs> hm 2013-07-20T18:36:50 < zyp> good morning, emeb 2013-07-20T18:37:31 < emeb> morning, zyp 2013-07-20T18:42:20 < dongs> During NORMAL mode the user controls the chip using the external PWM input or with Control 2013-07-20T18:42:23 < dongs> Registers through I2C. The registers can be written in any sequence and any number of bits can be 2013-07-20T18:42:27 < dongs> altered in a register in one write. 2013-07-20T18:42:29 < dongs> so it should fucking work 2013-07-20T18:42:31 < dongs> also temperature readout is zero 2013-07-20T18:42:33 < dongs> hm 2013-07-20T18:43:01 < zyp> are you feeding it pwm then? 2013-07-20T18:43:09 < dongs> no 2013-07-20T18:43:14 < zyp> did you check that you are using a sane pwm freq? 2013-07-20T18:43:16 < zyp> uh 2013-07-20T18:43:26 < zyp> then don't use a mode that relies on external pwm? 2013-07-20T18:43:28 < dongs> "or with control registers" 2013-07-20T18:43:29 < dongs> i dont 2013-07-20T18:43:38 < dongs> BL_CTL is 10 2013-07-20T18:43:38 < zyp> ok 2013-07-20T18:43:52 < dongs> er BRT_MODE 2013-07-20T18:43:52 < dongs> BRT_MODE[1:0] = 10, BL_CTL = 1 2013-07-20T18:43:57 < dongs> thats to turn shit on 2013-07-20T18:44:02 < dongs> but if I set BL_CTL to 0 2013-07-20T18:44:06 < dongs> it nver comes back on again 2013-07-20T18:44:09 < dongs> even if i togle it back to 1 2013-07-20T18:44:18 < dongs> EVEN if I cycle external EN pin... ? 2013-07-20T18:44:20 < zyp> that's weird 2013-07-20T18:44:29 < dongs> interesting 2013-07-20T18:44:33 < dongs> FAULT goes high 2013-07-20T18:44:41 < dongs> after I put BL to 0 2013-07-20T18:44:42 < dongs> then back to 1 2013-07-20T18:45:12 < dongs> hm 2013-07-20T18:45:14 < dongs> it came back on 2013-07-20T18:45:57 < dongs> damn this is really fucky shit 2013-07-20T18:51:30 -!- BrainDamage1 [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-20T18:52:15 < emeb> gotta figure out how to handle FP exceptions. 2013-07-20T18:52:31 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T18:52:45 < emeb> apparently some code I released is locking up. 2013-07-20T18:53:02 < zyp> can't you turn them off? 2013-07-20T18:53:10 < zyp> i.e. make the FPU just return NaN 2013-07-20T18:53:22 < dongs> Not a Blogger 2013-07-20T18:54:14 < dongs> wtfufuuuuuuuuuu 2013-07-20T18:55:08 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-20T18:55:11 < emeb> zyp: I'll check. 2013-07-20T18:55:25 < zyp> pretty sure there's an option to do that 2013-07-20T18:56:04 < emeb> it's in an IIR filter that's overdriving. Might be nice to reset the state of the filter too. 2013-07-20T18:56:15 < zyp> true 2013-07-20T18:56:16 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@235.sub-75-196-125.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T18:56:36 < zyp> NaN should carry through though, so you can just check for NaN on the output 2013-07-20T18:56:55 < emeb> good idea 2013-07-20T18:57:14 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-20T18:57:25 < zyp> hmm, I can't find the option though 2013-07-20T18:59:18 < emeb> I'll check too. 2013-07-20T18:59:22 < emeb> gotta go now. ty. 2013-07-20T18:59:34 -!- emeb [~ericb@adsl-67-126-149-205.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-20T19:03:59 < dongs> huh, plot thickens 2013-07-20T19:04:09 < dongs> I *can* read temperature value but only when BL_CTL is 0. 2013-07-20T19:08:27 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T19:14:03 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.18] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T19:17:01 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-20T19:20:59 < dongs> whatever. give up for now. 2013-07-20T19:21:01 < dongs> shit makes no sense 2013-07-20T19:21:02 < dongs> bbl 2013-07-20T19:21:19 < zyp> I have some code for it at home 2013-07-20T19:21:36 < dongs> i have ALL the code 2013-07-20T19:21:42 < dongs> but its not working in a way that make sense 2013-07-20T19:21:51 < dongs> unless im missing something fundamental 2013-07-20T19:22:14 < dongs> shit like 'temperature returns 0 when backlight is on' kinda shit is just WEIRD 2013-07-20T19:23:08 < zyp> brb, invading Steffanx 2013-07-20T19:23:11 < dongs> ^_^ 2013-07-20T19:23:13 < dongs> sleeptiem 2013-07-20T19:40:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.198.32] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T19:42:13 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@128.140.128.112] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T20:08:42 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@128.140.128.112] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 2013-07-20T20:11:57 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@235.sub-75-196-125.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-20T20:14:50 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@235.sub-75-196-125.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T20:15:41 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-20T20:16:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T20:32:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.198.32] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-20T20:59:28 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2013-07-20T20:59:50 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-20T21:11:21 < zyp> Steffanx, where's the welcome party? 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Looks like the new basic. 2013-07-21T02:16:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T02:18:39 < Laurenceb__> Photo-wise, I've managed to collect slightly over 120 gigabytes. That's just photos, comix, hentai, and animated .gif images. I've also collected slightly over 100 megabytes worth of sex stories, mostly in notepad files. How? I've been collecting this shit from age 15 2013-07-21T02:18:43 < Laurenceb__> meanwhile on irc 2013-07-21T02:20:05 < Thorn> meh 2013-07-21T02:20:13 < Thorn> how about 6 terabytes 2013-07-21T02:20:26 < BJfreeman> got the sex life of an electron 2013-07-21T02:24:17 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@190.sub-75-244-160.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-21T02:35:40 -!- DLPeterson [~AndChat16@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T02:51:20 -!- FmOut [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-21T02:56:49 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-21T03:05:10 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T03:06:01 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-21T03:07:17 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T03:07:40 -!- DLPeterson [~AndChat16@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2013-07-21T03:07:56 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T03:22:10 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/wtmQMxr.jpg attn Laurenceb 2013-07-21T03:29:28 < dongs> dix 2013-07-21T03:30:54 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-07-21T03:38:30 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-21T03:38:59 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T03:55:47 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:02:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-21T04:07:37 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:11:37 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:11:40 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-21T04:11:40 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:17:50 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@41.sub-75-196-19.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:18:30 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-21T04:18:50 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/wV0pe5V.png lol 2013-07-21T04:30:52 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:30:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:30:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-21T04:30:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:33:56 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.177] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:33:58 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-21T04:33:58 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-21T04:36:40 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-21T04:47:48 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T04:48:42 < h36sa> I'm having trouble getting a STM32F103 to get into the bootloader 2013-07-21T04:48:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-21T04:49:16 < h36sa> BOOT1 is tied to ground, BOOT0 I have a jumper on to tie to Vcc and it has a 100k pulldown 2013-07-21T04:50:40 < h36sa> I'm wondering if there is anything else I need to do? I'm using the black magic probe dfu firmware and I can flash it through jtag then upload any firmware through a script that comes with it (over the usb link, so not overwriting the bootloader I believe), but then I can't get back into bootloader mode 2013-07-21T04:50:56 < h36sa> this is the top portion of an STM8S-Discovery if it makes any difference 2013-07-21T05:02:38 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T05:06:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T05:08:24 < dongs> ? 2013-07-21T05:08:38 < dongs> h36sa: what "bootloader" are you expecting to get into with that BOOTx config? 2013-07-21T05:09:27 < dongs> f103 only has uart bootloader 2013-07-21T05:10:00 < dongs> in rom 2013-07-21T05:11:13 < h36sa> dongs, I believe I've flashed the blackmagic_dfu bootloader. Well, I know I've flashed it I'm not not sure if I'm flashing it to the boot sectors or if I need to enable to bootloader somehow 2013-07-21T05:11:21 < h36sa> 0x08000000? 2013-07-21T05:11:31 < dongs> if you flash it, then you just boot chip from flash as normal 2013-07-21T05:11:36 < dongs> i.e. BOOT0 NOT to vcc. 2013-07-21T05:12:07 < dongs> usually bootlaoder will check if there's some code @ whatever t he 'code' address is (80003000 or so) and if it s there, it'll jump 2013-07-21T05:12:11 < dongs> or else it'll spin in bootloader mode. 2013-07-21T05:12:27 < dongs> or there might be a gpio to pull up or down to stay in bootloader mode. 2013-07-21T05:12:30 < dongs> check the source. 2013-07-21T05:12:39 < dongs> but BOOTx pins arent for that. 2013-07-21T05:13:32 < h36sa> dongs, hmm that seems contradictory to what I've read but I'm sure you've got more experience 2013-07-21T05:14:59 < dongs> what do you expect to happen? 2013-07-21T05:15:11 < dongs> if you tie BOOT0 to VCC, on F103, that goes into ROM bootloader on UART. 2013-07-21T05:16:00 < h36sa> I see, so I'm not reprogramming that ROM 2013-07-21T05:16:07 < dongs> you cant. 2013-07-21T05:16:14 < dongs> you're writing to user flash (0x800000-whatever) 2013-07-21T05:16:19 < dongs> executing always starts from that 2013-07-21T05:16:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-21T05:17:05 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-21T05:17:12 < dongs> if you put bootloader there, it'll run (when chip normally loads) and either jump to user code at whatever address after it 2013-07-21T05:17:26 < dongs> or keep in booloader mode if there's no code or if some I/O is up or down. 2013-07-21T05:17:33 < h36sa> I see 2013-07-21T05:17:46 < h36sa> ok I think I need to do some more reading. 2013-07-21T05:22:15 -!- dfletcher_ [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T05:24:19 < dongs> i found 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mirrored so the internet experts mirrored it back 2013-07-21T10:28:36 < Thorn> http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8089/7qjm.jpg 2013-07-21T10:29:19 < Thorn> mirrored telemetry http://imageshack.us/a/img203/3834/wse8.jpg 2013-07-21T10:30:08 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-108-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-21T10:30:20 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: and like that, he's gone] 2013-07-21T10:32:03 < dongs> Thorn: whats the tl;dr 2013-07-21T10:32:08 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T10:33:12 < Thorn> angular velocity sensors in the first stage installed upside down. 2013-07-21T10:33:26 < dongs> where's actual news saying that 2013-07-21T10:33:36 < dongs> dont see anything on google news 2013-07-21T10:33:45 < jpa-> the news is already weeks old 2013-07-21T10:33:50 < dongs> found 2013-07-21T10:34:05 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has joined ##stm32 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Each of those sensors had an arrow that was suppose to point toward the top of the vehicle, however multiple sensors on the failed rocket were pointing downward instead. 2013-07-21T10:34:26 < ABLomas> hahaha 2013-07-21T10:34:31 < ABLomas> seriously... 2013-07-21T10:34:40 < dongs> in soviet russia, amirite? 2013-07-21T10:35:13 < Thorn> plus the liftoff was 0.4 seconds earlier and they still don't know why (some internet experts were quick to ask if there was any payload at all lol) 2013-07-21T10:35:32 < dongs> haha 2013-07-21T10:36:28 < dongs> Altogether there have been 388 Proton rocket booster launches since 1965, and only 23 of them were unsuccessful. 2013-07-21T10:36:54 < dongs> thats almost 6% failure rate, no? 2013-07-21T10:36:54 < PaulFertser> Also, http://www.roscosmos.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=20216 says to install the sensors improperly some "forceful impact" was needed, and the marks on the failed sensors are identical to those investigators got trying to install them upside down in the lab. 2013-07-21T10:37:10 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-21T10:37:32 < dongs> translating to english using PRISM 2013-07-21T10:37:52 < Thorn> it wasn't forceful enough apparently. the pin designed to prevent that was shorter than the screw clearance 2013-07-21T10:38:18 < Thorn> so you could still place the nuts and start tightening them 2013-07-21T10:38:46 < PaulFertser> Thorn: but it should have been apparent to those installing that it doesn't really fit the place, no? 2013-07-21T10:39:24 < dongs> they were in a hurry to get in line for more vodka 2013-07-21T10:39:27 < dongs> they dont care if shit didnt fit 2013-07-21T10:39:35 < ABLomas> http://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_glonass49.html 2013-07-21T10:39:35 < Thorn> you can't see them, the work is apparently done by feel (see the right picture here http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8089/7qjm.jpg ) 2013-07-21T10:40:00 < Thorn> probably in the doggy position too 2013-07-21T10:40:15 < gnomad> most of the proton failures were early in development. it has been a fairly stable platform in recent years. 2013-07-21T10:40:18 < PaulFertser> Thorn: how would one tighten the screws then? 2013-07-21T10:40:40 < ABLomas> PaulFertser: if you try hard enough.... ;-) 2013-07-21T10:43:31 < dongs> On July 2, Proton's commercial operator, the International Launch Services, ILS, announced a formation of its own Failure Review Oversight Board, FROB. 2013-07-21T10:43:34 < dongs> haha frob 2013-07-21T10:46:01 < PaulFertser> Haha dongs 2013-07-21T11:06:04 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@94.230.89.22] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T11:09:05 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-21T11:10:09 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-21T11:11:56 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T11:13:29 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-21T11:14:08 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T11:25:21 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/product/tca8424?DCMP=int_i2c_tca8424_en&HQS=int-i2c-tca8424-bs-en 2013-07-21T11:25:24 < dongs> wut 2013-07-21T11:26:59 < jpa-> i wonder why they don't just use USB internally also 2013-07-21T11:27:11 < dongs> ya im not really seeing the benefit of i2c here 2013-07-21T11:35:11 -!- FmOut [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T12:39:03 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2013-07-21T12:39:38 -!- shiftplusone [~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T12:41:25 -!- DanteA [~X@host-244-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T12:50:50 < R0b0t1> HID over I2C? 2013-07-21T12:51:25 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@78.173.200.89] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T12:51:25 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@78.173.200.89] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-21T12:51:25 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-21T12:54:09 -!- mrcan_ [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-21T13:07:28 -!- DanteA [~X@host-244-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-21T13:13:30 < baird> There was almost one less Gen-Y in the world this afternoon... A hardware store had nsw self-checkout counters, apparently in-house designed, and not having used it before, I instinctively attempted to use it like an ATM (because it somewhat resembled one..) ... After a few failed attempts at getting it working, a ~18yo staffer came over and showed me how to use it. 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with C++ app creation in MS Visual Express 2012? 2013-07-21T23:18:21 < R2COM> for some reason I simply cannot create C++ win32 project 2013-07-21T23:18:35 < R2COM> it says immediately that "project creation failed" 2013-07-21T23:19:13 < R2COM> msdn and other internet forums have tons of issues like that and responses from Microsoft officials are just douchbag responses like "try to clean your temp folder/reinstall try again, apply all updates" 2013-07-21T23:19:19 < R2COM> tried all that, still the shit doesnt work 2013-07-21T23:19:42 < R2COM> then i see their responses like "send us logs" and after that all replies stol in threads... 2013-07-21T23:19:47 < R2COM> seems like some unsolved shit 2013-07-21T23:20:27 < R2COM> it works just fine on a machine with winXP, but doesnt on win764 with all latest updates 2013-07-21T23:23:25 < jpa-> R2COM: did you remove the temp folders under AppData also? 2013-07-21T23:23:41 < jpa-> and do you have visual c++ express? 2013-07-21T23:23:51 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-21T23:23:53 < R2COM> 2012 2013-07-21T23:23:54 < jpa-> because the express versions of c++ and c# are two separate downloads 2013-07-21T23:24:04 < R2COM> no its not 2013-07-21T23:24:12 < R2COM> I have MS Express 2012 for desktop 2013-07-21T23:24:13 < jpa-> ah, they are combined in 2012? 2013-07-21T23:24:14 < R2COM> it includes both 2013-07-21T23:24:22 < jpa-> haven't tried 2012 yet :P 2013-07-21T23:24:37 < R2COM> I notice online same issues in 2010 too 2013-07-21T23:24:41 < R2COM> and in fact... 2013-07-21T23:24:53 < R2COM> I had 2010 installed too same issue! (for visual C++) 2013-07-21T23:24:59 < R2COM> then I removed it completely 2013-07-21T23:25:07 < R2COM> installed 2012, updated windows and what not! 2013-07-21T23:25:23 < jpa-> reinstall windows :) 2013-07-21T23:25:32 < R2COM> yearight 2013-07-21T23:25:53 < R2COM> AppData located in which folder? 2013-07-21T23:26:48 < jpa-> C:\Users\foobar\AppData\Local\Microsoft\something IIRC 2013-07-21T23:27:17 < R2COM> heh i dont see AppData folder ther 2013-07-21T23:30:03 < R2COM> I searched through like 12 similar threads on msdn and other places, none of workarounds worked 2013-07-21T23:30:15 < R2COM> and I noticed none of the threads had a workaround on which most people would agree 2013-07-21T23:30:34 < R2COM> and MS people's responses (last ones) were to send them logs... no solutions posted later 2013-07-21T23:30:40 < R2COM> seems like unsolved dead issue 2013-07-21T23:30:46 < R2COM> fucking douchebags 2013-07-21T23:32:03 < jpa-> open sores crap clearly 2013-07-21T23:32:14 < R2COM> well its not... 2013-07-21T23:37:23 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-21T23:38:43 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-21T23:50:02 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@65.sub-75-196-127.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-21T23:58:51 < Laurenceb__> woooooosh --- Day changed Mon Jul 22 2013 2013-07-22T00:05:43 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-22T00:12:18 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:20:46 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.4] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:21:12 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@65.sub-75-196-127.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:22:03 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-22T00:22:07 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-22T00:22:54 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:27:05 -!- englishman [~englishma@2001:0:4137:9e76:2087:1bb5:9f80:22cd] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-22T00:27:06 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-22T00:27:56 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:29:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:30:24 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-22T00:32:06 < upgrdman> anyone know if its a bad idea to have leads for current and voltage hooked up to a DMM at the same time? i want to use my dmm to measure voltage or current on a power supply, and it'd be nice to just twist the dial to pick one of the other 2013-07-22T00:35:59 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:37:46 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-22T00:39:17 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T00:39:54 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T00:42:15 < gxti> it's fine 2013-07-22T00:47:16 < emeb1> - 2013-07-22T00:47:33 < emeb1> +6 2013-07-22T00:47:44 < emeb1> whoops - catlike typing detected. 2013-07-22T00:47:48 < upgrdman> lol 2013-07-22T00:48:03 < emeb1> the cat really was walking on the kbd... 2013-07-22T00:48:56 < jpa-> upgrdman: fine, unless you have one of those funny meters which beep if you have probes in wrong holes :P 2013-07-22T00:49:10 < upgrdman> no, cheapy $40 bkp meter 2013-07-22T00:49:37 < upgrdman> its going to be repurposed as a psu meter, after i decide on what nice (200 - 500$) meter to buy 2013-07-22T00:49:56 < upgrdman> i like the agilents, except their continuity mode is fucking slow. 2013-07-22T00:50:12 < upgrdman> i cant believe they would release a meter with that shitty of a cont mode 2013-07-22T00:50:30 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-22T00:52:04 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-22T00:53:56 -!- emeb1 [~ericb@72.223.85.184] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-22T00:55:28 < gxti> i doubt that would bother me 2013-07-22T00:56:48 < jpa-> it is very annoying if cont mode is slow 2013-07-22T00:56:54 < jpa-> only if you need it, of course 2013-07-22T00:58:02 < upgrdman> i use cont mode a lot 2013-07-22T00:58:16 < upgrdman> its a shame. i like the look of agilent meters 2013-07-22T00:58:21 < upgrdman> flukes are ugly 2013-07-22T00:58:32 < upgrdman> bkp's are meh 2013-07-22T00:58:50 < upgrdman> and most others arent readily available 2013-07-22T01:00:05 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@65.sub-75-196-127.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T01:00:29 < upgrdman> extehc is also fugly 2013-07-22T01:00:34 < upgrdman> extech 2013-07-22T01:02:07 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-233-152.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T01:02:34 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-233-152.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T01:02:56 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-233-152.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T01:03:28 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-22T01:23:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T01:38:23 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-22T01:40:22 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T01:52:03 < Rickta59> anyone done some cortex-m0+ asm interested in commenting on some code to make it better? 2013-07-22T01:52:55 < zyp> hard to say if I have anything to comment before actually seeing the code 2013-07-22T01:53:20 < zyp> but if you post it, I'll take a look at least 2013-07-22T01:54:07 < Rickta59> thanks zyp http://pastebin.com/dreLtGWM 2013-07-22T01:54:34 < zyp> what's the reason for writing this in asm? 2013-07-22T01:54:41 < Rickta59> timing constraints 2013-07-22T01:54:50 < Rickta59> and i didn't want to use any timers 2013-07-22T01:55:06 < Rickta59> and mainly to learn how to do some arm asm 2013-07-22T01:55:19 < Rickta59> it works as is 2013-07-22T01:55:22 < zyp> ah, right, ws2811 2013-07-22T01:56:04 < Rickta59> and i wanted to try out the lpc810 and its single cycle gpio thing 2013-07-22T01:57:08 < zyp> are you sure about the timings though? are you certain you won't get any wait-states or anything messing up your calculations? 2013-07-22T01:57:31 < Rickta59> in the main code, it sets the wait states to 0 2013-07-22T01:57:40 < Rickta59> and i'm running with the default 12MHz clock 2013-07-22T01:57:52 < Rickta59> and i'll disable interrupts while it is running 2013-07-22T01:58:22 < zyp> and you have no dma or other stuff that can cause bus contention? 2013-07-22T01:58:33 < Rickta59> yeah the chip only has 4 k of flash 2013-07-22T01:58:39 < Rickta59> so i won't be doing much 2013-07-22T01:58:59 < Rickta59> probably just some animated leds 2013-07-22T01:59:08 < Rickta59> haven't decided what to do with it yet 2013-07-22T02:03:54 < zyp> code looks sane enough to me, it just seems pointless to do it in a blocking loop, when you could use a 10kHz systick or something 2013-07-22T02:04:34 < Rickta59> the short pulse is only 500ns 2013-07-22T02:04:48 < Rickta59> sorry i have the wrong thing in the comments 2013-07-22T02:04:52 < Rickta59> not us ns 2013-07-22T02:04:57 < zyp> oh 2013-07-22T02:05:38 < Rickta59> just doing and interrupt is going to be more instructions to get in an out 2013-07-22T02:05:41 < Rickta59> an 2013-07-22T02:05:41 < zyp> so everything is ns? 2013-07-22T02:05:53 < Rickta59> yeah sorry 2013-07-22T02:06:01 < zyp> ok, then it makes more sense 2013-07-22T02:07:01 < Rickta59> is there a better way to deal with the multiple nops 2013-07-22T02:07:33 < zyp> well, you could do loops 2013-07-22T02:08:18 < Rickta59> k 2013-07-22T02:11:06 < Rickta59> thanks for looking 2013-07-22T02:11:19 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.7] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T02:11:53 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-22T02:13:17 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-233-152.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T02:13:46 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-22T02:20:34 -!- shiftplusone_ is now known as ShiftPlusOne 2013-07-22T02:27:54 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.102] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T02:31:28 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-233-152.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T02:32:00 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-22T02:32:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-22T02:36:10 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T02:39:57 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-22T02:54:57 < h36sa> anyone using versaloon or black magic probe on an stm32? I can get both compiled and flashed onto the stm32f103 on my stm8s discovery but the userland doesn't seem to work properly 2013-07-22T02:55:20 < h36sa> or are there other somewhat universal jtag implementations I should look at that will work on these boards? 2013-07-22T02:58:23 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-22T02:58:55 < dongs> sup trolls 2013-07-22T02:59:17 < dongs> h36sa: i prefer using tools that work, that being jlink/ulink 2013-07-22T03:07:19 < h36sa> me too :) guess I'll just have to make a purchase 2013-07-22T03:08:54 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T03:09:01 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-22T03:16:13 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T03:20:25 < BrainDamage> several users of this channel use black magic 2013-07-22T03:20:51 < BrainDamage> I am not one of them tough 2013-07-22T03:21:49 < dongs> BrainDamage is hardcore, he manually bitbangs SWD over dip switches 2013-07-22T03:22:07 < BrainDamage> morse keypad man 2013-07-22T03:22:14 < BrainDamage> for speed 2013-07-22T03:22:55 < zyp> h36sa, what userland? 2013-07-22T03:23:11 < zyp> I've never used versaloon, but I'm quite familiar with bmp 2013-07-22T03:24:12 < karlp> h36sa: what's the big motivation to not just use the stlink on the stm8s discovery boards as is? what particular features are you looking for? 2013-07-22T03:25:08 < dongs> karlp: 8s discovery only does swim 2013-07-22T03:25:26 < dongs> you could hax load stlink w/jtag firmware but that takes effort 2013-07-22T03:25:47 < dongs> plus he wiped it already anyway 2013-07-22T03:25:49 < dongs> so hes fucked. 2013-07-22T03:25:52 < dongs> regardless. 2013-07-22T03:28:12 < karlp> h36sa: so... did you buy a stm8s disco cos you thought you'd be a l33t hax0r and put versaloon/bmp on it, when you could have bought any of the other stm32 disco boards with a working functional stlink on it instead? 2013-07-22T03:28:43 < dongs> he probly couldnt afford F1disco 2013-07-22T03:29:17 < dongs> the joys of being opensorcerer 2013-07-22T03:31:51 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.102] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T03:32:08 -!- FmOut_ [~quassel@153.135.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-22T03:46:01 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-22T03:49:56 < upgrdman> f0disco is ubercheap and has stlinkv2 2013-07-22T03:58:32 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-22T04:03:14 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T04:05:26 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T04:18:36 < h36sa> zyp, I was using openocd. no problem connecting to the target at /dev/ttyACM0 but running jtag_scan or swdp_scan would both give errors and a scope showed nothing on any of the jtag or swd pins on the board 2013-07-22T04:19:31 < zyp> with versaloon, you mean? 2013-07-22T04:19:42 < zyp> because bmp requires no such thing 2013-07-22T04:19:59 < h36sa> with bmp 2013-07-22T04:20:03 < zyp> wat 2013-07-22T04:20:16 < h36sa> err nm 2013-07-22T04:20:20 < h36sa> I'm confusing myself 2013-07-22T04:20:25 < h36sa> well.. confusing everyone :) 2013-07-22T04:20:36 < h36sa> with bmp I would just run gdb and connect to the serial port 2013-07-22T04:20:48 < zyp> ah, yeah 2013-07-22T04:21:24 < zyp> did you build the correct variant? 2013-07-22T04:21:41 < h36sa> karlp, I've got a couple of the stm8s discovery boards that I hadn't touched in two years so I figued I'd try to do something with them 2013-07-22T04:21:59 < h36sa> zyp, yeah. I verified all of the pins in the source code too. my target is swlink 2013-07-22T04:22:00 < zyp> I've got no experience with the third party variants, only devices following native schematic 2013-07-22T04:23:42 < qyx_> farnell web is down nearly *every single day* at 01:00 utc 2013-07-22T04:24:02 < zyp> scheduled? 2013-07-22T04:24:14 < qyx_> medieval times vrrr 2013-07-22T04:24:38 < h36sa> zyp, overall you're happy with bmp though? 2013-07-22T04:24:52 < zyp> yes, that's my preferred tool 2013-07-22T04:26:32 < zyp> works on any OS with ACM drivers, and is no hassle to set up, is pretty reliable, and the source is pretty hackable 2013-07-22T04:29:14 < qyx_> it reminds me that i should get bmp to replace my old crappy ftdi thing 2013-07-22T04:30:24 < zyp> (and I prefer emeb's bmp2 design that you'll find in the contrib folder, since it has a nice assortment of connectors) 2013-07-22T04:32:33 < zyp> so I can use it like this http://bin.jvnv.net/f/vV9Bt.JPG or like this http://bin.jvnv.net/f/FkIel.JPG or like this http://bin.jvnv.net/f/AV2YQ.JPG 2013-07-22T04:38:00 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@83.sub-75-233-152.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-22T04:39:11 < h36sa> yeah that does look handy 2013-07-22T04:47:48 < qyx_> haha, you use the same way of doing af selection using marker pens 2013-07-22T04:47:54 < h36sa> zyp, where did you get yours? 2013-07-22T04:48:17 < zyp> assembled myself 2013-07-22T04:48:28 < qyx_> although now i prefer that mircoxplorer thing 2013-07-22T04:48:35 < qyx_> *micro 2013-07-22T04:54:40 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T04:55:41 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T04:56:28 < thetooth> whats doing? 2013-07-22T05:26:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T05:47:48 < inca> any clue what this means? "invalid operands to binary * (have 'void *' and 'int')" 2013-07-22T05:48:18 < zyp> it means you can't multiply a pointer with an int 2013-07-22T05:48:27 < zyp> (of course you can't) 2013-07-22T05:48:51 * inca facepalms 2013-07-22T05:48:53 < inca> thanks 2013-07-22T05:51:04 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-22T05:57:40 -!- DLPeterson_ [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T06:10:53 < inca> is there a way to sanely become better at operating Eclipse? 2013-07-22T06:11:41 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-22T06:14:34 < talsit> what are you doing now? 2013-07-22T06:19:08 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-22T06:19:15 < R2COM> there is a way 2013-07-22T06:19:28 < R2COM> --> Removing Eclipse 2013-07-22T06:19:30 < R2COM> is what I did 2013-07-22T06:19:43 < R2COM> I'm debugging in gdb console now, with bmp 2013-07-22T06:19:57 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-22T06:20:24 < R2COM> it wasn not quite convenient at beginning, but Now I can dick in most important commands very quickly and debugging is efficient 2013-07-22T06:23:35 < zyp> I believe that's what they call the learning curve 2013-07-22T06:25:07 < R2COM> I always actually used IDE for microcontroller debug/design, but since ST didnt provide one natively as for example Microchip, thats why Initially decided to use Eclipse... but Eclipse is way way way too buggy 2013-07-22T06:26:32 < R2COM> by the way, all commercial debuggers are with GUI? 2013-07-22T06:26:51 < R2COM> what I mean is, is there something like...even more efficient/fast/better tool like gdb but commercial? 2013-07-22T06:27:12 < R2COM> or they are all sold in package with integrated IDE? 2013-07-22T06:28:16 < R2COM> although, gdb seems to work pretty nicely so far as I see 2013-07-22T06:39:39 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T06:40:10 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T06:45:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T06:52:38 -!- DLPeterson_ [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-22T06:54:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-22T06:54:25 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T06:57:11 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-22T07:07:33 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-22T07:07:42 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T07:09:35 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@2001:0:4137:9e76:490:1bb5:9f80:22cd] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T07:13:05 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: englishman, emeb_mac 2013-07-22T07:13:05 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-22T07:15:33 -!- talsit1 [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T07:15:41 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-22T07:18:12 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T07:18:30 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: thetooth, talsit 2013-07-22T07:20:14 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2013-07-22T07:22:20 -!- Guest61476 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T07:26:37 -!- Netsplit over, joins: thetooth 2013-07-22T07:51:37 < inca> hmm... I need moar RAM 2013-07-22T07:52:15 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T07:52:16 < zyp> then buy more, RAM is cheap 2013-07-22T07:54:44 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.7] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!] 2013-07-22T07:55:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-22T07:56:35 < inca> zyp: except when it involves board spins. =) 2013-07-22T07:57:00 -!- Guest61476 [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-22T07:57:06 < inca> FNET is up on ChibiOS for STM32F107 2013-07-22T07:57:40 < inca> FNET tcp/ip stack is much easier to understand than LWIP, but it appears to use more RAM 2013-07-22T07:58:09 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-51-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-22T07:59:41 < inca> night! 2013-07-22T08:06:07 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-157-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 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scheduler, not and entire operating system/self replicating java based stack machine on to itself, using an stm32f407 btw 2013-07-22T09:13:35 < jpa-> they are both nice 2013-07-22T09:13:47 < jpa-> chibios has hardware drivers for STM32, which can really speed up development 2013-07-22T09:14:04 < jpa-> freertos has just the scheduler and threading primitives, nothing more 2013-07-22T09:14:20 < dongs> thetooth: i've had pretty good luck with CoOS 2013-07-22T09:14:22 -!- DanteA [~X@host-251-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T09:14:25 < dongs> for rtos that just does tasks and stays out of hte way. 2013-07-22T09:14:40 < dongs> without HAL/other trash 2013-07-22T09:15:28 < DanteA> Hal - not the trash 2013-07-22T09:16:04 < thetooth> dongs: might try it out, since i'm using coide anyway because codesourcy is broken for me ;_; 2013-07-22T09:16:14 < dongs> right 2013-07-22T09:16:42 < thetooth> btw were you on #/g/tech some time ago? 2013-07-22T09:17:28 < dongs> i hope not, i doubt i'd ever join to such a gay looking channel 2013-07-22T09:17:46 < dongs> ^_^ 2013-07-22T09:18:13 < thetooth> you're not the dong im looking for then =W= 2013-07-22T09:18:20 < dongs> most likely. 2013-07-22T09:18:25 < dongs> there's a bunch of posers who try to be me 2013-07-22T09:18:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T09:18:34 < dongs> but theres only one true dongs. 2013-07-22T09:19:06 < jpa-> the rest are strap-ons? 2013-07-22T09:19:45 < thetooth> im only in this channel because every image of exploded MCU or failed component is linked to some log of you in this channel 2013-07-22T09:19:55 < dongs> haha 2013-07-22T09:20:24 < thetooth> google "stm32" and goto images, half the resaults are you brah 2013-07-22T09:21:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/WVVNQ.jpg 2013-07-22T09:21:26 < dongs> haha 2013-07-22T09:21:59 < thetooth> thats the one 2013-07-22T09:22:46 < Inteliada> Hulk soldering 2013-07-22T09:24:07 < PaulFertser> thetooth: i've used freertos both on atmega and stm32, it has everything useful you might expect from a microcontroller RTOS scheduler, including mutexes with priority inversion, queues etc. 2013-07-22T09:24:32 < PaulFertser> And lgpl-like licence. 2013-07-22T09:24:33 < dongs> the only problem with freertos is syntax 2013-07-22T09:24:43 < dongs> code written with that shit looks like total fucking ass 2013-07-22T09:24:54 < dongs> xFuckQueue WHAT 2013-07-22T09:24:59 < dongs> vTaskGetOutOfHere 2013-07-22T09:25:03 < PaulFertser> dongs: you've forgotten to mention it's opensauce 2013-07-22T09:25:26 < PaulFertser> I'd say ST's periph library is waay more ugly. 2013-07-22T09:26:19 < PaulFertser> Declare a struct, do not forget to initialise it with some obscure function, then fill some fields, then call a function to actually do anything... meh 2013-07-22T09:26:38 < PaulFertser> Too many ways to screw this up. 2013-07-22T09:28:01 < PaulFertser> E.g. we've spent quite some time fighting obscure bug with CAN initialisation (which apparently depended on the length of the function and optimisation options) that was there because the previous dev have just forgotten to init the struct and so AF_PP mode did nothing because the "speed" field ended up being zero. 2013-07-22T09:28:33 < dongs> niec 2013-07-22T09:28:38 < dongs> yeah i wrote my own GPIO function 2013-07-22T09:28:46 < dongs> the one in stdperiph was just fucking aids 2013-07-22T09:28:53 < dongs> plus 2 loops to initialize it 2013-07-22T09:28:55 < dongs> whath te fuck 2013-07-22T09:29:41 < PaulFertser> While FreeRTOS was clearly written by some competent people who happened to choose a visually unpleasant naming scheme, ST's library was clearly written by a bunch of fucks. 2013-07-22T09:29:52 < dongs> heh 2013-07-22T09:31:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-22T09:31:25 < dongs> the best thing to come out of ST is CPAL 2013-07-22T09:31:28 < dongs> by far 2013-07-22T09:31:51 < thetooth> PaulFertser: while testing the dev board i have here i couldn't get i2c working, not because i missed any of the i2c speed paramaters, but i didn't specify the GPIO speed, so it defaults to never finishing an interrupt after its triggered 2013-07-22T09:31:55 < thetooth> top lel 2013-07-22T09:32:12 < dongs> thetooth: see you shoulda used cpal 2013-07-22T09:32:41 < PaulFertser> thetooth: yes, same issue, an automatic variable can get 0 in the speed field of the struct and then you end up with passing improper value to gpio_init. 2013-07-22T09:33:41 < PaulFertser> What's ironic is that ST provides "asserts" to prevent things like that but nobody is apparently enabling them because they're 1. runtime, require messing with printfs etc 2. do not properly handle bitmasks where they should, emitting false positives. 2013-07-22T09:35:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-22T09:38:08 < dongs> lol 2013-07-22T09:38:09 < dongs> asserts 2013-07-22T09:38:11 < dongs> yeah annoynig shit 2013-07-22T09:42:27 -!- talsit1 is now known as talsit 2013-07-22T09:56:15 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T10:10:06 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T10:13:01 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-22T10:26:10 < thetooth> dongs: got CoOS working 2013-07-22T10:26:16 < dongs> yeah its not hard 2013-07-22T10:26:53 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-22T10:27:02 < thetooth> mfw it crashs, mfw its because i gave my main thread a 128 byte stack and imediatly allocated 4k 2013-07-22T10:27:05 < thetooth> ( ⊙‿⊙) 2013-07-22T10:27:32 < thetooth> should prolly read docs before mindlessly calling api functions 2013-07-22T10:30:06 -!- Intelaida 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anyone used the Encoder Interface of TIM2 on STM32F103? 2013-07-22T11:31:03 < talsit> i can get it to work fine with TIM3 & TIM4, but on TIM2, it doesn't respond 2013-07-22T11:33:50 < zyp> how so? 2013-07-22T11:35:37 < zyp> I've used it on TIM2 on F3 if that counts 2013-07-22T11:35:44 < zyp> worked without any problems 2013-07-22T11:37:25 < dongs> i dont see how it would be different on any timX 2013-07-22T11:37:37 < dongs> if it works on one youre probably just fucking something up on another. 2013-07-22T11:38:22 < talsit> yeah... that's what i'm thinking... but i configure them all the same 2013-07-22T11:38:43 < zyp> did you hook them up correctly? 2013-07-22T11:38:52 < zyp> not any remap problem? 2013-07-22T11:39:30 < talsit> physically or in registers? 2013-07-22T11:39:38 < talsit> i'm not doing any remaps 2013-07-22T11:39:39 < jpa-> which pins are you using physically? 2013-07-22T11:39:59 < jpa-> hmm.. 2013-07-22T11:40:08 < jpa-> though in input mode, remaps should not mess up that easily 2013-07-22T11:41:05 < talsit> TIM2_CH1/CH2: PA15/PB03 (38/39) 2013-07-22T11:41:31 < jpa-> talsit: looks like remap to my 2013-07-22T11:41:36 < jpa-> it is in the remap column 2013-07-22T11:41:48 < talsit> D'OH 2013-07-22T11:41:53 < talsit> :( 2013-07-22T11:42:42 < talsit> me=fail 2013-07-22T11:42:44 < jpa-> you should be :), it's only a single bit to fix it :) 2013-07-22T11:42:45 < talsit> thanks 2013-07-22T11:44:50 < dongs> remap on F1 sucks anyway 2013-07-22T11:44:52 < dongs> why didnt you use normal pins? 2013-07-22T11:45:03 < talsit> BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME TO CONFIGURE IT THAT WAY 2013-07-22T11:45:22 < talsit> TIM1 CH1 & CH4 to LED 2013-07-22T11:45:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-22T11:45:26 < dongs> ya 2013-07-22T11:45:29 < talsit> USART1 on standard pins 2013-07-22T11:45:31 < dongs> yes. 2013-07-22T11:45:34 < talsit> then TIM2,3,4 on available 2013-07-22T11:45:35 < zyp> remap on F1 works fine, as long as you keep to the defined groups 2013-07-22T11:45:36 < dongs> all others are nonremap 2013-07-22T11:45:38 < dongs> yes. 2013-07-22T11:45:48 < dongs> TIM2,3,4 1-4 are all non-remap pins. 2013-07-22T11:45:56 < zyp> the reason it sucks are because they are grouped, but as long as the groups work for you, that's not really a problem 2013-07-22T11:47:06 < talsit> PA00 for wakeup button (where the "original" TIM2_CH1 is) 2013-07-22T11:47:49 < zyp> what are you designing? 2013-07-22T11:48:03 < talsit> rotary encoder aggregator 2013-07-22T11:48:14 < talsit> 3 encoders in, RS232 out 2013-07-22T11:48:37 < zyp> ah 2013-07-22T11:55:44 -!- Joakel [5388f6d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.246.214] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T11:58:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T12:08:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-22T12:09:50 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T12:12:46 < Intelaida> talsit, where are you goint to use it? 2013-07-22T12:15:08 < talsit> jpa-: found ot that I have to disable JTAG first, since PB3 defaults to JTDO 2013-07-22T12:15:27 < talsit> as in, "jpg- found out that..." so HE found out 2013-07-22T12:15:46 < talsit> Intelaida: for camera systems, lens encoders, aperture, zoom, focus 2013-07-22T12:16:46 < Intelaida> it requires a great deal of sensitivity ) 2013-07-22T12:16:50 < Intelaida> good luck 2013-07-22T12:17:58 < talsit> not all that much 2013-07-22T12:26:13 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T13:04:02 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T13:05:26 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-22T13:05:30 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T13:53:45 -!- BJfreeman 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this shit is supposed to be top secret 2013-07-22T15:04:13 <+Steffanx> signed an NDA for it? 2013-07-22T15:09:37 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-22T15:31:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-22T15:34:16 <+Steffanx> zyp perhaps ever tried this (experimental) itm/swo stuff using magictpa and the bmp? 2013-07-22T15:42:11 < zyp> not really 2013-07-22T15:42:59 <+Steffanx> too bad 2013-07-22T15:47:41 < zyp> haven't really had any use for it 2013-07-22T15:53:41 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T16:13:02 -!- gxti [~gxti@72.37.225.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-22T16:13:06 < Laurenceb__> http://fl23200u.form2go.com/uk-isp-filtering-select.html 2013-07-22T16:13:50 -!- gxti [~gxti@ada.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T16:14:49 < dongs> i wana see Laurenceb__ submission 2013-07-22T16:19:26 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.181] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T16:19:53 < Intelaida> Her Majesty's wants to know every pervert in her kindom by face 2013-07-22T16:40:17 < dongs> http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-sued-porn-addiction-man-says-macbook-cost-his-marriage-kids-1345831 2013-07-22T16:40:21 < dongs> attn Laurenceb__ 2013-07-22T16:40:53 < zyp> pretty old news 2013-07-22T16:41:06 < dongs> sorry 2013-07-22T16:41:09 < dongs> i dont check apple news often 2013-07-22T16:41:24 < zyp> I think I read it on the reg last week 2013-07-22T16:41:49 < dongs> ya i usually read reg on the shitter and/or before slep 2013-07-22T16:41:51 < dongs> sometime i forget tho 2013-07-22T16:41:59 < dongs> and miss a couple days worth ofg news and it scrolls off 2013-07-22T16:55:39 < Intelaida> must be hard not to shit and sleep a couple of days 2013-07-22T16:56:12 < dongs> i know, things are pretty bad 2013-07-22T16:59:24 < Laurenceb__> i used to operate on a 48hour cycle 2013-07-22T16:59:33 < Laurenceb__> but i wasnt that crazy 2013-07-22T17:00:05 < Laurenceb__> stay up 30 hours, sleep 18hours 2013-07-22T17:00:30 < Intelaida> sometimes it`s really useful to practice deprivation 2013-07-22T17:00:42 < Intelaida> of sleep, for example 2013-07-22T17:00:54 < Laurenceb__> lol 2013-07-22T17:00:54 <+Steffanx> you should try this 28 hours days thing Laurenceb__ 2013-07-22T17:01:09 < Laurenceb__> i tried 40hours.. that just got weird 2013-07-22T17:01:20 < Laurenceb__> when it doesnt sync to the daylight 2013-07-22T17:01:42 <+Steffanx> 6 times 28 hours fits better in one week :) 2013-07-22T17:04:37 < Intelaida> Laurenceb__, did you curtain windows with anything? 2013-07-22T17:04:44 < Intelaida> if you have them 2013-07-22T17:07:57 < Laurenceb__> didnt have any in my troll dungeon :P 2013-07-22T17:10:28 < zyp> I've been awake for 28 hours or so now 2013-07-22T17:11:06 <+Steffanx> 'awake' 2013-07-22T17:11:32 < zyp> yes 2013-07-22T17:12:04 < zyp> as in I woke up and got out of bed at 12 or so yesterday 2013-07-22T17:12:22 < zyp> and for some reason I haven't went to bed again yet 2013-07-22T17:15:13 < Activate_for_mor> zyp, but feel the differ between being awake and working 2013-07-22T17:15:22 < zyp> true 2013-07-22T17:15:26 < zyp> I skipped work today 2013-07-22T17:15:34 < Activate_for_mor> for the same time ) 2013-07-22T17:15:37 < dongs> oh good 2013-07-22T17:15:44 < dongs> then you can paste your bl driver code 2013-07-22T17:15:52 < dongs> or try changing brightness over i2c :) 2013-07-22T17:17:56 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-22T17:18:38 < zyp> oh, the firmware just implements control commands for doing i2c reads/writes 2013-07-22T17:18:54 < dongs> haha. you never got anywhere past that? ok 2013-07-22T17:19:58 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/Ktq19 <- I have this that I tested with, but I forget what those registers were for 2013-07-22T17:20:12 < zyp> and the rest I tested in interactive mode 2013-07-22T17:20:41 < zyp> because that's faster than reflashing every time I want to try another i2c command 2013-07-22T17:21:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:21:20 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 2013-07-22T17:22:37 < Activate_for_mor> adventure time ^^ 2013-07-22T17:24:53 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:29:00 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-230-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-22T17:30:40 -!- rigid_ [~rigid@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-22T17:30:40 -!- rigid_ [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:30:45 -!- rigid_ is now known as rigid 2013-07-22T17:32:42 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-22T17:35:52 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-108-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:40:37 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-108-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-22T17:42:38 -!- claude is now known as Claude 2013-07-22T17:42:38 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:46:12 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-96-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:52:26 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-96-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-22T17:54:41 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 2013-07-22T17:55:49 -!- Avi [~Avi@c122-107-128-37.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:55:58 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-35-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T17:57:05 < Avi> on the stm32 discovery board, are any of the broken out ports able to be set all 16 pins as output without damaging anything, it does not appear there are any ports totally free 2013-07-22T17:58:02 < zyp> did you check the table in the discovery board user manual? 2013-07-22T17:58:41 < Avi> you mean i have 16 datasheets and im still missing one? lol 2013-07-22T17:58:56 < Avi> *googles* 2013-07-22T17:59:02 < zyp> UM1472 2013-07-22T18:02:06 < zyp> and no, no ports are totally free 2013-07-22T18:02:35 < zyp> what are you intending to do? 2013-07-22T18:05:16 < Avi> well this is what i worked out from the schematic http://pastebin.com/Y9CeUmi7 2013-07-22T18:05:43 < Avi> resistors can br driven, not sure of any of the active stuff is as output by default 2013-07-22T18:07:24 < Avi> a shame they didnt break out the spi pin on this LCD 2013-07-22T18:10:53 < zyp> can't you hook it up to the FSMC? 2013-07-22T18:12:41 < zyp> http://www.wvshare.com/product/Open407V-D-Standard.htm <- the waveshare breakout board for F4 is using FSMC to drive an LCD connector, so I assume those pins are free 2013-07-22T18:12:53 < zyp> breakout for F4discovery I mean 2013-07-22T18:13:11 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T18:14:15 < zyp> if you use FSMC you don't even have to think about timing and strobing, hardware will do all that for you, you just write the data you want to write to some memory addr mapped by the FSMC to the LCD 2013-07-22T18:14:32 < zyp> so it's just plain silly to not use it if you can. 2013-07-22T18:15:44 < zyp> (otherwise, waveshare also have other F4 boards where no pins are reserved) 2013-07-22T18:18:36 < zyp> dongs, so, I heard you wanted a new phone: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 2013-07-22T18:19:43 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-22T18:19:50 <+Steffanx> 32 million .. wuut 2013-07-22T18:20:08 < dongs> 32 million? 2013-07-22T18:20:11 < dongs> get the fucking hell out 2013-07-22T18:20:29 < Avi> lol http://www.wvshare.com/product/STM32-QFP144.htm 2013-07-22T18:20:37 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T18:20:44 < dongs> yea? 2013-07-22T18:20:49 < dongs> that socket anywehre else is like $300 2013-07-22T18:21:03 < dongs> i have their 48lqfp version 2013-07-22T18:21:23 < englishman> hey guys what's the difference between TIM_OCMode_PWM1 and TIM_OCMode_PWM2 2013-07-22T18:21:54 < zyp> dongs, I like the cpu spec 2013-07-22T18:21:55 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-22T18:21:56 < zyp> «Fastest multi-core CPU» 2013-07-22T18:22:08 < zyp> I wonder what that's supposed to be 2013-07-22T18:22:16 < zyp> quad A15? 2013-07-22T18:22:19 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@69.158.137.45] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T18:22:19 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@69.158.137.45] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-22T18:22:19 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T18:23:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-22T18:25:38 <+Steffanx> What i miss in the entire story is WHY a commercial company like canonical wants US to invest in their company. 2013-07-22T18:28:11 < dongs> connect to any monitor and this Ubuntu phone transforms into an Ubuntu PC, with a fully integrated desktop OS and shared access to all files. 2013-07-22T18:28:15 < dongs> this is what I dont fucking want. 2013-07-22T18:28:51 <+Steffanx> You want a windows phone that does the same! 2013-07-22T18:29:52 -!- Claude is now known as claude 2013-07-22T18:33:09 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-22T18:33:15 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-22T18:38:48 < Laurenceb__> 4.5in 1,280 x 720 HD sapphire crystal display 2013-07-22T18:38:52 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T18:38:54 < Laurenceb__> wtf 2013-07-22T18:39:05 < Laurenceb__> no way 2013-07-22T18:40:24 < Laurenceb__> http://www.goodfellow.com/catalogue/GFCat4J.php?ewd_token=7JNhFkzzLliCI0mteynAzOwW04C4dG&n=jp1FHNaiEcE6hUaDplZ54DjXvxku3b 2013-07-22T18:40:27 < Laurenceb__> was i was saying 2013-07-22T18:42:15 < Laurenceb__> http://www.photonic.saint-gobain.com/uploadedFiles/SGphotonic/Documents/Sapphire-Sheets.pdf 2013-07-22T18:42:25 < Laurenceb__> ok maybe its feasible, but itd cost a fortune 2013-07-22T18:42:47 < Laurenceb__> theres a feason fagphone doesnt use it 2013-07-22T18:54:10 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-22T18:59:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T19:35:49 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T19:44:05 -!- Joakel [5388f6d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.246.214] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-22T19:53:59 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@43.sub-75-233-135.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T19:54:34 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-22T20:00:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.202.119] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T20:09:18 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.19] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-22T20:10:20 -!- DanteA [~X@host-67-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 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this $600 – FOR ONE DAY ONLY thing 2013-07-23T00:41:52 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T00:42:03 < emeb> if they sell all of the $600 options they'll have 1/10 the goal. Then they need to sell 35k more of the $830 options to hit the goal. 2013-07-23T00:42:38 <+Steffanx> Most of the listed funders are $600s 2013-07-23T00:42:47 < emeb> so the question is - are there 35,000 crazy people out there. 2013-07-23T00:43:15 <+Steffanx> Yes, but not sure if they are crazy enough :P 2013-07-23T00:43:19 < emeb> s/crazy people/early adopters/ 2013-07-23T00:46:23 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T01:06:09 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-23T01:14:00 < Laurenceb__> hmm rat eseems to be increasing 2013-07-23T01:14:05 < Laurenceb__> $1.75M now 2013-07-23T01:24:08 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T01:31:21 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-23T01:32:20 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T01:55:48 -!- thetooth_ [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T01:56:26 -!- gxti_ [~gxti@ada.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T02:00:40 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Posterdati, thetooth, gxti 2013-07-23T02:02:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Posterdati 2013-07-23T02:04:05 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.25] has quit [Quit: sleeeeep] 2013-07-23T02:04:51 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-23T02:05:00 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-23T02:08:13 < Laurenceb__> $2M 2013-07-23T02:08:39 < emeb> heh 2013-07-23T02:10:01 < Laurenceb__> US is coming home from work 2013-07-23T02:17:20 < qyx_> must be kidding 2013-07-23T02:17:24 < qyx_> 40000 in 5 minutes 2013-07-23T02:18:55 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-23T02:21:43 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T02:25:47 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-23T02:34:19 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T02:38:03 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@43.sub-75-233-135.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-23T02:50:25 < dongs> how is that jewbunto phone 2013-07-23T02:50:39 < dongs> haha 2013-07-23T02:50:41 < dongs> 2.2mil 2013-07-23T02:50:45 < dongs> there surely is a lot of dumb niggerse 2013-07-23T02:53:25 < englishman> lol http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fund-ubuntu-edge-future-supporter 2013-07-23T02:54:43 < englishman> it's not the only one 2013-07-23T02:54:53 < englishman> and the other are copypasta 2013-07-23T03:04:11 < dongs> here's how its gonna work assuming they do get 32mil 2013-07-23T03:04:14 < dongs> they will make the shit 2013-07-23T03:04:19 < dongs> people will buy it 2013-07-23T03:04:24 < dongs> and install assdroid or winRT on it 2013-07-23T03:04:33 < dongs> just like all the garbage dell sells w/lunix pr einstalled 2013-07-23T03:04:36 < dongs> just to get shit out cheap 2013-07-23T03:04:42 < dongs> people buy it and install pirated windows. 2013-07-23T03:04:55 < dongs> wiat, that shit has ONLY LTE? 2013-07-23T03:04:55 < dongs> haha 2013-07-23T03:05:03 < dongs> so its basically worthless everywhere 2013-07-23T03:09:38 < emeb> don't even have to do that - it dual-boots android, so only the true-believers will ever boot to ubuntu. 2013-07-23T03:12:35 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T03:20:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-23T03:26:24 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T03:28:03 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-23T03:28:23 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T03:28:52 < inca> does anyone know how to go back to STLink from BMP? 2013-07-23T03:31:07 < ds2> place order on D/K? 2013-07-23T03:31:20 < gxti_> somebody has to have ripped it by now :p 2013-07-23T03:31:27 < gxti_> due to "i am a key wawawa" 2013-07-23T03:32:17 < inca> I think the russians did. I wonder if I can trick the windows stlink app into upgrading 2013-07-23T03:32:42 < inca> why can't I use the builtin boot rom to reflash stlink firmware? 2013-07-23T03:37:01 < inca> oh right, the F103 doesn't have a builtin boot rom 2013-07-23T03:37:27 < bsdfox_> inca, you probably can if you set the pid/vid and serial number to something valid 2013-07-23T03:37:53 < bsdfox_> inca, doesn't it? BOOT0 and BOOT1 exist 2013-07-23T03:39:14 < inca> I can't remember. It's either the F4 or the F103 which does not have a hard boot rom backup 2013-07-23T03:39:48 < inca> I think it's the F103. You can put the backup at the first flash memory address and normally start beyond that 2013-07-23T03:40:23 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T03:40:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T03:40:34 < inca> if you startup under reset, you get the backup bootloader. But if you erase both, you are SOL until JTAG/SWD rescue. 2013-07-23T03:40:41 < inca> or something like that 2013-07-23T03:41:27 < inca> now what am I doing here... wiring up the F103 on the F4 disco board for SWD rescue... here's to hoping the Russians did good work 2013-07-23T03:43:45 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.166] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T03:46:46 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T03:51:36 -!- thetooth_ [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-23T03:51:59 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T04:00:59 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-23T04:03:24 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T04:14:10 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.137.45] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T04:14:54 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T04:31:59 < dongs> < inca> I think it's the F103. 2013-07-23T04:32:00 < dongs> um 2013-07-23T04:32:03 < dongs> F103 has uart bootloader always. 2013-07-23T04:32:06 < dongs> in ROM 2013-07-23T04:35:29 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T04:38:27 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-23T04:40:41 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-23T04:42:47 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T04:52:23 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T05:07:24 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-249-29.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T05:26:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-23T05:26:22 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T05:26:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-23T05:28:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T05:32:49 < emeb> wow: http://www.taylorkillian.com/2013/01/retrieving-st-linkv2-firmware-from.html 2013-07-23T05:33:23 < emeb> all that crap just to protect the st-link firmware. 2013-07-23T05:35:13 < dongs> useless 2013-07-23T05:35:17 < dongs> i did that long time ago 2013-07-23T05:35:25 < dongs> except i didnt blog about it like a faggot 2013-07-23T05:35:31 < dongs> and without st's bootloader its stiluluselessl 2013-07-23T05:36:19 < emeb> so how did you extract it? same way? 2013-07-23T05:36:58 < dongs> pretty much, i knew it was aes, marked out aes functions, put breakpoint there to get key, then exttracted resource and decrypted 2013-07-23T05:37:26 < emeb> score another for the decompiler 2013-07-23T05:39:50 < dongs> argh 2013-07-23T05:39:57 < dongs> 4L panel has open slot 2013-07-23T05:40:47 < dongs> need to get my shit doen 2013-07-23T05:41:12 < emeb> train is leaving the station - get on board. 2013-07-23T05:43:34 < dongs> 200mW @ 1.8V 2013-07-23T05:43:52 < dongs> 110mA? 2013-07-23T05:43:56 < dongs> hmm 2013-07-23T05:48:10 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-23T05:52:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T05:52:36 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T06:00:58 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T06:07:06 < dongs> fuck yeah 2013-07-23T06:07:10 < dongs> my chinese lcd trash is he re 2013-07-23T06:23:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-23T06:26:20 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T06:34:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T06:43:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T06:51:25 < dongs> hm 2013-07-23T06:51:34 < dongs> wonder if I should bother doing native USB 2013-07-23T06:51:39 < dongs> or just use usbuart again 2013-07-23T06:51:50 < dongs> less parts is good :( 2013-07-23T06:52:04 < dongs> and vcp isnt too hard. 2013-07-23T06:53:03 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-23T06:53:14 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T06:56:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-23T06:59:14 < dongs> emeb_mac: i forgot why did you do all that transistor fuckery for USB_DP pullup 2013-07-23T07:00:38 < emeb_mac> dongs: that's so that the USB pullup is on by default (so that the bootloader works) and can be disabled only when that GPIO line is an output and pulled right. 2013-07-23T07:00:54 < dongs> hmm 2013-07-23T07:00:57 < dongs> so on F103 i shouldnt care 2013-07-23T07:01:01 < dongs> since it has no USB bootloader 2013-07-23T07:01:12 < dongs> and I can just dick it directly to gpio 2013-07-23T07:01:36 < dongs> y/n/m 2013-07-23T07:01:52 < emeb_mac> dongs: right - if you're in total control of the interface you can run it more simply 2013-07-23T07:02:40 < dongs> ok. 2013-07-23T07:04:01 < dongs> dont need vbus sen either since its alwywas running off usb 2013-07-23T07:04:26 < emeb_mac> yeah - that bus sense is pretty useless most of the time. 2013-07-23T07:05:04 < dongs> yeah it is. i can only think of it being useful if shit is powered extenrally by 5V 2013-07-23T07:05:08 < dongs> and USB interface is off 2013-07-23T07:05:11 < emeb_mac> yup 2013-07-23T07:05:12 < dongs> and you have EXTI or something on vbs coming in 2013-07-23T07:05:16 < dongs> to activate it. 2013-07-23T07:05:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T07:07:59 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T07:18:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T07:49:59 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@drupal.org/user/72475/view] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T07:50:54 -!- Inteliada [~spheric@host-199-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T07:51:09 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-35-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T07:55:03 -!- Inteliada [~spheric@host-199-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T07:58:28 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T08:02:58 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-179-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:07:21 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-179-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T08:10:43 < dongs> http://blog.freenode.net/2013/07/server-hosting-and-trust/ lol drama 2013-07-23T08:11:30 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-23T08:12:38 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:13:54 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:19:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-23T08:25:45 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:26:35 -!- ntfreak_ [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T08:28:38 < emeb_mac> what about this? http://www.hotmcu.com/hyministm32v-dev-board-32-tft-lcd-module-p-5.html?cPath=1_20 2013-07-23T08:29:29 < dongs> works 2013-07-23T08:29:34 < dongs> friend bought this same thing from wayengineer 2013-07-23T08:29:42 < dongs> put it on a snowmachine as dash 2013-07-23T08:29:49 < dongs> used the included pirated ucOS + gui 2013-07-23T08:29:57 < dongs> took abount an evening to draw a bunch of graphs/dials/etc 2013-07-23T08:30:31 < zyp> does it draw that slow? :p 2013-07-23T08:30:39 < dongs> its not bad 2013-07-23T08:30:44 < dongs> i ran the UC/GUI or whatever demo 2013-07-23T08:30:46 < dongs> decent 2013-07-23T08:30:54 < dongs> i mean its not doublebuffer or anything but shrug 2013-07-23T08:31:00 < dongs> probably better than CHIBIOS/GFX 2013-07-23T08:31:01 < jpa-> woosh 2013-07-23T08:31:11 < dongs> pfft 2013-07-23T08:33:07 < emeb_mac> pretty cheap 2013-07-23T08:34:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:35:17 < emeb_mac> probably pick up one of their knockoff j-link pods too. 2013-07-23T08:35:28 < dongs> yeah the jlinkob thing? 2013-07-23T08:35:30 < dongs> works great. 2013-07-23T08:36:30 < emeb_mac> ya - the bare-board one? 2013-07-23T08:36:42 < dongs> right 2013-07-23T08:36:43 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@93.sub-75-233-40.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:36:44 < dongs> yellow board 2013-07-23T08:36:50 < dongs> i had a couple, sent one off to friend 2013-07-23T08:37:01 < dongs> they're better than black clones cause tehy cant be blacklisted/killed 2013-07-23T08:37:11 < emeb_mac> one of my clients wants me to use Keil so I'll give it a try 2013-07-23T08:37:29 < Intelaida> let the workday begin. 2013-07-23T08:37:36 < emeb_mac> see if I can squeeze the code into 32k and get by with the free version 2013-07-23T08:38:37 < emeb_mac> oh look - cheap allwinner: http://www.hotmcu.com/marsboard-a10-dev-board-p-59.html?cPath=33 2013-07-23T08:38:49 < dongs> ya 2013-07-23T08:39:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T08:39:41 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-23T08:40:14 < emeb_mac> lol - SMD power connector. 2013-07-23T08:40:23 < emeb_mac> rip that sucker off in about 2 minutes 2013-07-23T08:46:31 < scrts> emeb_mac -> brutal hands? 2013-07-23T08:46:31 < scrts> :) 2013-07-23T08:47:42 < emeb_mac> scrts: nah - I try to be pretty gentle with most stuff. Sometimes though... Thru-hole connectors with sturdy lugs are best. 2013-07-23T08:48:05 < scrts> indeed 2013-07-23T08:49:43 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:51:53 < emeb_mac> heh - got one of these for giggles too: http://www.hotmcu.com/freescale-frdmkl25z-kinetis-l-series-development-platform-p-41.html?cPath=1_29 2013-07-23T08:52:16 < dongs> tarduijno compatible 2013-07-23T08:52:22 < emeb_mac> arduino-compatible I/O. that's not a feature, that's a bug 2013-07-23T08:52:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T08:58:15 < scrts> freescale gave these devkits for free :) 2013-07-23T08:59:49 < emeb_mac> of course they did. 2013-07-23T09:00:53 < dongs> putting a cap through square clock output will just center it right 2013-07-23T09:08:37 < dongs> hm no 2013-07-23T09:08:58 < dongs> centered on scope while i was touching it through a cap but became still 0V-blah when i soldered the cap in 2013-07-23T09:15:34 < emeb_mac> huh? 2013-07-23T09:15:59 < dongs> yanno 2013-07-23T09:16:03 < dongs> instead of 0-3.3V 2013-07-23T09:16:10 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T09:16:10 < dongs> it'll be like 3.3V p-p centered at 0 2013-07-23T09:16:25 < emeb_mac> +/- 1.65V 2013-07-23T09:16:34 < dongs> er that 2013-07-23T09:16:37 < emeb_mac> what frequency is the clock? 2013-07-23T09:16:40 < dongs> 16M 2013-07-23T09:16:53 < emeb_mac> what is it driving into? 2013-07-23T09:17:02 < dongs> doing this affected receiver sentivitity a lot, so ijust went back to directly connecting a crystal to it 2013-07-23T09:17:07 < dongs> and will remove clockout shit for production 2013-07-23T09:17:20 < dongs> 16M xtal is cheaper than dealing wiht fail 2013-07-23T09:17:29 < dongs> espeially since chip has built in configurable load caps 2013-07-23T09:17:34 < dongs> so its just a xtal, no caps needed. 2013-07-23T09:17:38 < emeb_mac> ah 2013-07-23T09:18:04 < emeb_mac> so you were trying to drive an external 16MHz clock signal into the xtal input pin. 2013-07-23T09:18:09 < dongs> right 2013-07-23T09:18:11 < dongs> which was in spec 2013-07-23T09:18:22 < dongs> i mean, it was one of possible clocking modes 2013-07-23T09:18:34 < dongs> but C/N dropped from ~63dB to ~43dB when i did that 2013-07-23T09:18:40 < emeb_mac> yech 2013-07-23T09:18:53 < dongs> rather than figure out why, Ill just not do that :D 2013-07-23T09:18:56 < emeb_mac> you shouldn't need to dc-block it though. 2013-07-23T09:19:01 < dongs> i tried both ways 2013-07-23T09:19:03 < dongs> 0R and 0.1uF 2013-07-23T09:19:22 < emeb_mac> did you try reducing the amplitude? 2013-07-23T09:19:34 < dongs> no 2013-07-23T09:19:37 < dongs> (nto sure how? 2013-07-23T09:19:39 < emeb_mac> 3.3V swing might overdrive the input. 2013-07-23T09:19:41 < dongs> its just square output from another chip 2013-07-23T09:19:42 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-23T09:19:49 < dongs> i think spec said somethin about 500mV p-p 2013-07-23T09:20:03 < dongs> it doesnt matter, ill just use a xtal 2013-07-23T09:20:16 < emeb_mac> easy. 2013-07-23T09:21:30 < emeb_mac> to get 500mVpp from 3.3V, and centered @ VDD/2 you'd need a bunch of passive parts. 2013-07-23T09:21:36 < dongs> yeah fuck that 2013-07-23T09:22:07 < emeb_mac> a cap and 4 resistors. xtal is probably a better deal. 2013-07-23T09:22:13 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T09:22:22 < dongs> especially since its same 16m cap another shit needs. 2013-07-23T09:22:34 < emeb_mac> buy in bulk 2013-07-23T09:22:57 < dongs> i could use clockout to drive stm32 tho 2013-07-23T09:23:05 < dongs> except i need to configure it first 2013-07-23T09:23:37 < emeb_mac> so stm starts on internal osc, then configures rf chip then switches to external xtal input. 2013-07-23T09:23:42 < emeb_mac> complicated 2013-07-23T09:23:42 < dongs> right 2013-07-23T09:23:47 < dongs> but thats a lot of work 2013-07-23T09:24:04 < dongs> suppose not impossible. 2013-07-23T09:24:53 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T09:26:36 < dongs> STM32 works ok off reguar squre clcok right? 2013-07-23T09:27:11 < R2COM> it should 2013-07-23T09:27:14 < scrts> it does 2013-07-23T09:27:29 < R2COM> I guess it should once VOH/VOL parameters mentioned in reference manual are met 2013-07-23T09:28:17 < R2COM> theres chapter in external clocks in ref. manual, telling about minimum output HI and maximum output LO for ext. clocks. 2013-07-23T09:28:25 < scrts> we use stm32f2 with 27MHz oscillator 2013-07-23T09:28:28 < scrts> square wave 2013-07-23T09:28:38 < dongs> 27,m eh 2013-07-23T09:28:42 < dongs> isnt that out of speC? 2013-07-23T09:28:45 < dongs> i thought it could be max 25 2013-07-23T09:28:52 < scrts> oh, probably 25 2013-07-23T09:29:08 < dongs> i've got 27m clock on here too but i dont think that'd divide nicely for usb 2013-07-23T09:29:23 < scrts> well, we use it for video stuff 2013-07-23T09:29:29 < scrts> camera interface 2013-07-23T09:29:32 < scrts> and no USB 2013-07-23T09:29:53 < emeb_mac> ahhhh... scrts in two windows 2013-07-23T09:31:20 < dongs> what else is he in 2013-07-23T09:31:25 < dongs> #dsp-without-dongs? 2013-07-23T09:31:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T09:32:53 < scrts> yeah 2013-07-23T09:33:12 < scrts> and #electronics-without-dongs, #arm-without-dongs, etc... 2013-07-23T09:33:14 < scrts> :) 2013-07-23T09:35:03 < dongs> those channelsa re all aids anyway 2013-07-23T09:35:09 < dongs> #electronics is full of lunix faggots 2013-07-23T09:35:54 < emeb_mac> #datasheets-with-kittens 2013-07-23T09:38:09 * dongs mutters something about ovens 2013-07-23T09:39:06 < emeb_mac> http://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/ILI9325.pdf <- kittens, pp 99-100 2013-07-23T09:40:56 < dongs> haha 2013-07-23T09:43:43 < jpa-> i wonder why every ilitek chip has totally different register set 2013-07-23T09:43:53 < dongs> depends whose IP they stole 2013-07-23T09:43:55 < dongs> for that particular one 2013-07-23T09:44:00 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.232] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T09:44:04 < emeb_mac> looooool 2013-07-23T09:44:11 < jpa-> e.g. ILI9325 and ILI9327 are 100% incompatible 2013-07-23T09:44:19 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@93.sub-75-233-40.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-23T09:44:41 < emeb_mac> only 2 bits different 2013-07-23T09:45:28 < jpa-> only 1? 2013-07-23T09:46:11 < dongs> haha 2013-07-23T09:46:55 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T09:47:06 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T10:04:45 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-23T10:04:59 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T10:04:59 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-23T10:18:05 -!- DanteA [~X@host-85-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T10:22:20 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-102-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T10:28:20 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T10:33:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-23T10:35:30 < baird> But... we need dongs to keep flyback out.. 2013-07-23T10:37:52 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T10:39:25 < baird> He's the hero that IRC deserves.. :P 2013-07-23T10:45:35 < Inteliada> he flushed and embarrassed 2013-07-23T10:47:57 -!- DanteA [~X@host-85-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T11:00:55 < Thorn> http://www.technologyreview.com/view/517336/physicists-detect-radio-waves-with-light/ 2013-07-23T11:03:15 < dongs> cool 2013-07-23T11:03:42 -!- CRF_Peter [~Peter@81-237-198-30-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-23T11:04:11 < Thorn> looks like a new kind of antenna 2013-07-23T11:04:45 -!- DanteA [~X@host-78-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T11:07:48 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T11:08:36 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T11:11:12 < Inteliada> and why it seems so trivial ) 2013-07-23T11:11:50 < baird> I thought the gravity-wave people already had something like that.. 2013-07-23T11:16:43 < Inteliada> knowledge is recollection, baird 2013-07-23T11:31:19 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-23T11:52:11 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T11:55:13 < dongs> damn this 0.6V fb voltage regs are nice 2013-07-23T11:55:27 < dongs> I can make pretty much any standard voltage using 220k + ?? 2013-07-23T11:55:56 < dongs> 1M+220k = 3.3, 220k+220k = 1.2, 442k+220k = 1.8 2013-07-23T11:56:05 < dongs> savin that bom cost 2013-07-23T11:56:58 < scrts> 442k doesn't seem like standard :) 2013-07-23T11:57:02 < dongs> it is 2013-07-23T11:57:09 < scrts> 220 220 and 2? 2013-07-23T11:57:32 < dongs> 442 is E48 or wahtever 2013-07-23T11:57:57 < dongs> and im using it in other places 2013-07-23T11:58:04 < dongs> that asks ">450k pullup" 2013-07-23T11:58:14 < dongs> er <= 450k 2013-07-23T12:17:56 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T12:18:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T13:07:02 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T13:15:08 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T13:28:05 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T13:28:28 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T13:28:29 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ is now known as trepidaciousMBR 2013-07-23T13:39:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T13:57:59 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-23T13:59:20 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: PaulFertser, stephendwyer, ossifrage, Laurenceb 2013-07-23T13:59:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Laurenceb 2013-07-23T13:59:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ossifrage 2013-07-23T14:01:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: stephendwyer 2013-07-23T14:04:24 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T14:20:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-23T14:22:29 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T14:24:50 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-23T14:28:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T14:29:21 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T14:34:55 < zyp> dongs, want a laugh? https://github.com/rxrz/exfat-nofuse/issues/5 2013-07-23T14:43:21 < baird> ReactOS got into the shit from someone trying that.. 2013-07-23T14:47:32 < dongs> zyp: lol drama 2013-07-23T14:48:19 < qyx_> any idea why i get this? 2013-07-23T14:48:21 < qyx_> http://openpaste.org/FD815814 2013-07-23T14:48:32 < dongs> 500 server error? 2013-07-23T14:48:35 < dongs> stop using shit paste sites 2013-07-23T14:48:37 < dongs> bcas.tv/paste 2013-07-23T14:48:41 < qyx_> refresh :S 2013-07-23T14:48:58 < zyp> «Device Security Bit Set» 2013-07-23T14:49:01 < dongs> looks like a mile-long command line 2013-07-23T14:49:08 < zyp> protected flash, I guess 2013-07-23T14:49:11 < qyx_> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/bzo5kF43.html 2013-07-23T14:49:13 < qyx_> only for you, dongs 2013-07-23T14:49:19 < qyx_> btw that site is ugly 2013-07-23T14:49:37 < zyp> (I also got 500 first, had to refresh) 2013-07-23T14:49:49 < dongs> which site 2013-07-23T14:49:52 < dongs> bcas.tv? 2013-07-23T14:49:56 < zyp> no 2013-07-23T14:49:59 < dongs> thats beacusae it doesnt load over 9000kilobytes of javascript 2013-07-23T14:50:02 < qyx_> zyp: if i do stm32f2x unlock 0, it unprotects ok 2013-07-23T14:50:33 < zyp> anyway, this looks like openocd, and I don't know openocd, so I've got nothing to suggest 2013-07-23T14:50:33 < qyx_> but then it doesn't work either 2013-07-23T14:51:13 < qyx_> meh, my old nice ftdi dongle is broken and now i have only stlinks here :S 2013-07-23T14:52:20 < PaulFertser> qyx_: can you share the error on some other pastebin and probably continue at #openocd? 2013-07-23T14:52:53 < qyx_> k 2013-07-23T14:55:16 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T15:01:17 <+Steffanx> lol @ issue zyp :D 2013-07-23T15:02:45 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T15:05:30 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-23T15:10:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-23T15:18:15 < qyx_> wat "I'm a big girl." 2013-07-23T15:24:07 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-23T15:27:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T15:33:37 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-23T15:37:14 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T15:39:11 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T15:39:11 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-23T15:39:11 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T15:41:17 < Laurenceb> http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Triune-Systems/TS52001-MQFNR/?qs=EumP11lMQtMVhVxbsj2Ldw== 2013-07-23T15:44:03 <+Steffanx> Even configurable using i2c :D 2013-07-23T15:44:18 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.232] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T15:45:26 < Laurenceb> and has eeprom so it can't be killed 2013-07-23T15:47:04 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T15:47:10 < Laurenceb> http://www.thejpster.org.uk/gallery/raspberryjam/2013-07/atrium_2.jpg 2013-07-23T15:47:14 < Laurenceb> typical rpi user 2013-07-23T15:51:06 <+Steffanx> Typical boy from the UK uh Laurenceb? 2013-07-23T15:56:13 < Laurenceb> http://www.b3tards.com/u/037e58b9e054b3c8dd7b/keepcalmporn.gif 2013-07-23T15:57:29 < zyp> project idea: battery backed ramdisk with pcie or sata interface, for nonvolatile cache/buffer purposes 2013-07-23T15:57:34 < zyp> how to implement? 2013-07-23T15:57:36 < zyp> :p 2013-07-23T15:59:05 < Laurenceb> http://www.b3ta.com/board/10985157 2013-07-23T15:59:08 < Laurenceb> lolling hard 2013-07-23T15:59:57 < karlp> zyp: for what benefit over disks/ssds? 2013-07-23T16:00:15 < Laurenceb> http://s4.b3ta.com/host/creative/67887/1374521794/KateandWilliamnewbaby.gif 2013-07-23T16:02:32 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T16:02:34 < zyp> karlp, the purpose I have in mind is the ZFS ZIL 2013-07-23T16:03:28 < zyp> which is rather small, write only and high volume to the point where SSD wear is a concern 2013-07-23T16:04:03 < zyp> mostly write only, apart from error recovery, I mean 2013-07-23T16:17:35 < dongs> lol zfs 2013-07-23T16:18:57 < zyp> what about it? 2013-07-23T16:21:19 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-23T16:21:30 < zyp> I'm assembling a new server and got 27TB of hard drives I'll be putting into it, I'm considering running zfs 2013-07-23T16:21:35 < zyp> any reason I shouldn't? 2013-07-23T16:21:46 < dongs> ya try ntfs 2013-07-23T16:21:54 < zyp> how about no? 2013-07-23T16:21:54 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-23T16:22:34 < talsit> i second that no 2013-07-23T16:22:54 <+Steffanx> exfat zyp . The code is GPL now :) 2013-07-23T16:23:28 < talsit> another no 2013-07-23T16:34:00 -!- Blok [~sa@unaffiliated/blok] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-23T16:35:21 < Inteliada> Laurenceb, make me unsee this right now 2013-07-23T16:38:15 < Laurenceb> lolz 2013-07-23T16:42:47 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-23T16:53:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T16:58:15 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-102-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T16:59:32 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-230-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T17:00:46 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T17:07:13 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T17:07:45 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T17:07:47 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-23T17:08:24 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T17:09:08 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-23T17:09:37 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBrBNW6F8xQ 2013-07-23T17:09:42 < Laurenceb> meanwhile on youtube 2013-07-23T17:11:21 <+Steffanx> [11:40:08] it does get tedious 2013-07-23T17:24:35 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-230-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-23T17:37:22 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-23T17:39:05 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T17:40:00 < Thorn> at 0:22 there's a sound as if someone racks the slide. too bad there was no shot afterwards 2013-07-23T17:41:03 < piezoid> hi 2013-07-23T17:41:06 < piezoid> what is the recommended method to clamp analog in voltage ? 2013-07-23T17:42:02 < piezoid> i'm doing a generic interface for audio filter loop with symetric power ramp 2013-07-23T18:05:07 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-23T18:10:30 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T18:10:40 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T18:11:39 < dongs> oblivion was pretty good 2013-07-23T18:11:54 < dongs> was kinda worth it to stop routing a board to watch it 2013-07-23T18:12:27 <+Steffanx> me googles 2013-07-23T18:12:47 * Laurenceb goggles 2013-07-23T18:13:28 <+Steffanx> 7.1 me *buys* movie. 2013-07-23T18:13:49 <+Steffanx> but tom cruise .. 2013-07-23T18:14:04 < dongs> more than one tom cruise even. 2013-07-23T18:14:15 <+Steffanx> *spoiler alert* ? 2013-07-23T18:14:26 < dongs> yessir 2013-07-23T18:18:53 < Intelaida> http://demworld.ru/var/albums/kino/1160.jpg?m=1357063050 2013-07-23T18:18:56 < Intelaida> familiar faces? ) 2013-07-23T18:19:15 < dongs> no. 2013-07-23T18:19:23 < dongs> your relatives? 2013-07-23T18:19:50 <+Steffanx> The middle one looks familiar, but im not sure why 2013-07-23T18:20:04 < dongs> one of them sorta looks like ballmer 2013-07-23T18:20:06 < Intelaida> we all are relatives. 2013-07-23T18:20:28 < dongs> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/08/ballmerpunch.jpg 2013-07-23T18:20:30 < dongs> y/n/m 2013-07-23T18:20:55 < Intelaida> Ballmer is pleased 2013-07-23T18:21:51 < Intelaida> +Steffanx, noone is alive now, but they were great actors ) 2013-07-23T18:22:38 <+Steffanx> So names Intelaida? 2013-07-23T18:23:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-23T18:24:45 < Intelaida> Yuriy Nuculin, Evgeniy Morgunov, Grigory Vitsin 2013-07-23T18:25:03 < Intelaida> you recognized the first one 2013-07-23T18:26:13 < Intelaida> ballmer is good too. 2013-07-23T18:26:16 <+Steffanx> oh, russians 2013-07-23T18:27:11 < dongs> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062759/ i think ive seen that at some point 2013-07-23T18:28:22 < Intelaida> oh 2013-07-23T18:28:37 < dongs> what does that have to do with stm32 tho 2013-07-23T18:29:04 <+Steffanx> like that ever happens.. 2013-07-23T18:29:17 <+Steffanx> I gave up on that. Just like everyone here. 2013-07-23T18:29:17 < dongs> right 2013-07-23T18:35:16 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-23T18:37:18 < Intelaida> ok, "worth it to stop routing a board to [noun] it" -- the correct form of expression. Will use. 2013-07-23T18:38:34 < dongs> Intelaida: quick q, are you a pumper 2013-07-23T18:38:50 < dongs> just_wondering 2013-07-23T18:43:08 < Intelaida> better to answer "no" just in case, i think 2013-07-23T18:53:06 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-23T19:23:35 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-23T19:23:41 < Laurenceb> floating point scanf is failing 2013-07-23T19:23:49 < Laurenceb> on my chibios project... 2013-07-23T19:23:56 < Laurenceb> this worked fine last time i tried 2013-07-23T19:24:03 < Laurenceb> anyone know wtf is going on? 2013-07-23T19:27:33 < dongs> lunix 2013-07-23T19:27:47 < Laurenceb> oh 2013-07-23T19:27:51 < Laurenceb> wrong toolchain 2013-07-23T19:27:56 < Laurenceb> thats whut 2013-07-23T19:32:19 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T19:33:59 < qyx_> meh, seeedstudio internal server error 2013-07-23T19:35:19 < Laurenceb> whats an example of an fpu instruction on cortex m4f? 2013-07-23T19:35:32 < Laurenceb> something is highly bad here 2013-07-23T19:35:39 < Laurenceb> code justy goes mad at bootup 2013-07-23T19:35:48 < Laurenceb> wondering if tis screwed up floating point 2013-07-23T19:42:18 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T19:42:23 < Laurenceb> epic rage 2013-07-23T19:42:31 < Laurenceb> how is such a level of fuckup possible 2013-07-23T19:42:47 < Laurenceb> i havent the faintest clue wtf is happening 2013-07-23T19:44:50 < dongs> do you ever? 2013-07-23T19:45:25 < Laurenceb> Nan city 2013-07-23T19:45:37 < dongs> < Laurenceb> Nun city 2013-07-23T19:47:04 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.35.192.18] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-23T19:54:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@72.223.85.184] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T19:55:34 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T20:05:01 -!- DanteA [~X@host-78-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-23T20:08:16 < Laurenceb> very odd 2013-07-23T20:08:34 < Laurenceb> i suspect issues with make not picking up header changes 2013-07-23T20:08:43 < Laurenceb> code is utterly unstable now 2013-07-23T20:08:53 < Laurenceb> yet according to git its unchanged 2013-07-23T20:09:43 < emeb> sounds fun. :P 2013-07-23T20:09:59 < Laurenceb> epic wtf time 2013-07-23T20:10:10 < Laurenceb> this was supposed to be a 5 minute job 2013-07-23T20:10:16 < Laurenceb> going to take at least a week like this 2013-07-23T20:10:24 < Laurenceb> just to work out wtf is happening 2013-07-23T20:11:30 < qyx_> this reminds me few days ago when i wasn't able to blink a led on f103 2013-07-23T20:12:10 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro/blob/master/threads/EKF_Pressure.c 2013-07-23T20:12:14 < Laurenceb> issue is somewhere in here 2013-07-23T20:12:31 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro/blob/master/threads/EKF_Pressure.c#L314 2013-07-23T20:12:40 < Laurenceb> target suddenly has insane values all the time 2013-07-23T20:16:21 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T20:17:24 < Laurenceb> hmm 2013-07-23T20:17:32 < Laurenceb> behaviour matches with logf failing 2013-07-23T20:17:39 < Laurenceb> i think i have some library issue 2013-07-23T20:17:50 < Laurenceb> logf seems to return 1.. wtf 2013-07-23T20:18:23 < Laurenceb> well this would at least explain how it broke when i moved PCs 2013-07-23T20:18:48 <+Steffanx> We should do some brain measuring when you code Laurenceb.. just to see what's going on in there when you write code.. 2013-07-23T20:36:12 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-23T20:39:13 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-23T20:50:03 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T20:51:26 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-23T20:55:56 < Laurenceb> http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/09/01/71_1314909873877.html 2013-07-23T20:55:58 < Laurenceb> W 2013-07-23T20:55:59 < Laurenceb> T 2013-07-23T20:56:01 < Laurenceb> F 2013-07-23T21:00:29 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T21:01:30 < someone_r> hey guys i have a problem 2013-07-23T21:01:44 < someone_r> is it possible that i bricked the STM32? 2013-07-23T21:02:02 < zyp> hard to say without you providing any details 2013-07-23T21:02:14 < someone_r> im programming it by using the STM32 discovery 2013-07-23T21:02:21 < zyp> but if you are asking whether it's possible to brick an stm32, then the answer is certainly 2013-07-23T21:02:22 < someone_r> and the ST LINK 2013-07-23T21:02:32 < emeb> what did you do? 2013-07-23T21:02:32 < someone_r> utility 2013-07-23T21:02:59 < someone_r> well i flashed a new core 2013-07-23T21:03:06 < someone_r> a new firmware 2013-07-23T21:03:26 < jpa-> someone_r: did you 1) interrupt the flashing or 2) play with power saving modes? 2013-07-23T21:03:28 < someone_r> now when i try to flash a new Firmware it say "the core is held in reset" 2013-07-23T21:03:46 < jpa-> someone_r: which discovery board? 2013-07-23T21:03:59 < someone_r> stm32vldiscovery 2013-07-23T21:04:07 < someone_r> we did not interrupt the flash... 2013-07-23T21:04:31 < jpa-> i assume you have removed power and tried again already? 2013-07-23T21:04:39 < someone_r> several time 2013-07-23T21:04:51 < someone_r> i also checked boot 0 wich is down 2013-07-23T21:04:58 < jpa-> measure the reset pin voltage? 2013-07-23T21:05:05 < someone_r> and to force manually the NRST high 2013-07-23T21:05:09 < jpa-> no 2013-07-23T21:05:27 < jpa-> don't do that :D 2013-07-23T21:05:35 < someone_r> what? 2013-07-23T21:05:51 < someone_r> force the pin high? 2013-07-23T21:05:53 < jpa-> the core can pull it low itself.. forcing it high might damage something (but usually does not) 2013-07-23T21:06:03 < someone_r> well i was using a 50k resistor 2013-07-23T21:06:05 < jpa-> ah, ok 2013-07-23T21:06:13 < jpa-> well did it go high? 2013-07-23T21:06:25 < someone_r> good question 2013-07-23T21:06:28 < someone_r> i assumed so 2013-07-23T21:06:33 < jpa-> time to measure the voltage 2013-07-23T21:06:35 < someone_r> let me check again 2013-07-23T21:07:02 < jpa-> zyp: is it possible to brick stm32 without physical damage? :) 2013-07-23T21:07:47 < zyp> protection modes? 2013-07-23T21:08:04 < jpa-> i think all those can be reset 2013-07-23T21:08:49 < zyp> really? 2013-07-23T21:09:05 < zyp> so there is no way to prevent anybody from reprogramming a device? 2013-07-23T21:09:21 < jpa-> well you could burn the pins physically maybe.. 2013-07-23T21:09:35 < zyp> that doesn't count :p 2013-07-23T21:10:33 < jpa-> "Memory read protection Level 2 is an irreversible operation." 2013-07-23T21:10:37 < jpa-> oh, you are right 2013-07-23T21:11:22 <+Steffanx> what about this hack or isn't that relevant anymore? 2013-07-23T21:11:44 <+Steffanx> the hack that was linked to for a while in the topic 2013-07-23T21:12:04 < jpa-> the bootloader hack thingy? 2013-07-23T21:12:51 <+Steffanx> it such a long time ago, i dont even remember 2013-07-23T21:13:55 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@93.sub-75-233-40.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T21:14:29 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-23T21:17:43 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-23T21:17:58 < someone_r> well so let me understand 2013-07-23T21:18:20 < someone_r> if i programm it using SWDIO and SWCLK 2013-07-23T21:19:16 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-23T21:19:20 < someone_r> am i able to repogram the ROM of the stm32 where the bootloader is write? 2013-07-23T21:19:28 < someone_r> no right? 2013-07-23T21:19:43 < jpa-> no 2013-07-23T21:20:10 < someone_r> good... so this means if i am not able to touch that part of the memory 2013-07-23T21:20:23 < someone_r> i cannot brick the device 2013-07-23T21:20:27 < someone_r> right? 2013-07-23T21:22:40 < jpa-> you can put it into a full protection mode which stops you from ever reprogramming the device 2013-07-23T21:22:44 < Laurenceb> hmf 2013-07-23T21:22:45 < jpa-> but that is not easy to do by accident 2013-07-23T21:22:46 < Laurenceb> logf is working 2013-07-23T21:22:50 < Laurenceb> wtf could cause this 2013-07-23T21:22:58 < Laurenceb> i rebuild and its clusterfucked 2013-07-23T21:22:59 < jpa-> Laurenceb: maybe you didn't break it this time? 2013-07-23T21:23:14 < jpa-> Laurenceb: step through it and see what is different? 2013-07-23T21:23:25 < Laurenceb> hmm 2013-07-23T21:23:33 < Laurenceb> ill use git to return to an earlier version 2013-07-23T21:24:18 < jpa-> or just debug it 2013-07-23T21:24:32 < Laurenceb> thats kind of hard 2013-07-23T21:24:39 < someone_r> anyway something is helding NRST low 2013-07-23T21:24:41 < Laurenceb> as its all realtime control loops 2013-07-23T21:24:54 < jpa-> someone_r: check the supply voltages 2013-07-23T21:24:59 < Laurenceb> how do i try a previous virsion using git? 2013-07-23T21:25:01 < jpa-> someone_r: analog supply etc. 2013-07-23T21:25:03 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T21:25:06 < jpa-> Laurenceb: git checkout 2013-07-23T21:25:19 < Laurenceb> then can i go back to my current version? 2013-07-23T21:25:27 < jpa-> Laurenceb: surely you can just make a test case for logf(), if that is what is broken? 2013-07-23T21:26:18 < Laurenceb> i dont know 2013-07-23T21:26:24 < Laurenceb> i dont think so 2013-07-23T21:26:36 < Laurenceb> its estimated linear actuator position is diverging to infinity 2013-07-23T21:26:51 < jpa-> how do you even know it is logf() that is wrong? 2013-07-23T21:27:38 < Laurenceb> hmf 2013-07-23T21:27:48 < Laurenceb> ill try some more debugging 2013-07-23T21:28:00 < R2COM> anyone worked with ftdi on windows app level? 2013-07-23T21:29:53 <+Steffanx> in C# and this wonderful dll *not* they have, yes 2013-07-23T21:30:19 < Laurenceb> http://pastebin.com/bc36aUFw 2013-07-23T21:30:20 < R2COM> I am starting it now 2013-07-23T21:30:24 < R2COM> with C# 2013-07-23T21:30:32 < R2COM> using their DLL 2013-07-23T21:30:42 < R2COM> what you mean, which DLL you are using? 2013-07-23T21:30:55 <+Steffanx> Now i have to dig in my memory again.. uhm 2013-07-23T21:31:29 <+Steffanx> i think i used the .NET code they provided 2013-07-23T21:31:41 <+Steffanx> They have some .NET interface for the dll. 2013-07-23T21:31:43 < R2COM> and one thing which is strange is, all their App level PDF description doc. and DLL source have to do with FT2232H or 4232H 2013-07-23T21:31:51 < R2COM> not sure if I should use same stuff with my FT232H 2013-07-23T21:32:18 < R2COM> for example I tried some function, which gets number of devices 2013-07-23T21:32:20 < R2COM> it returns 0 2013-07-23T21:32:21 < Laurenceb> http://pastebin.com/bc36aUFw <- logf is broken surely? 2013-07-23T21:32:26 < R2COM> although I have FT232H connected 2013-07-23T21:32:28 <+Steffanx> i used FT232R(L) 2013-07-23T21:32:33 < Laurenceb> it should have returned negative 2013-07-23T21:32:40 < R2COM> then I read: (This function must be used, if more than one FT2232H dual/FT4232H quad hi-speed devices will be connected to a system. ) 2013-07-23T21:33:04 < R2COM> so I am not sure if it returns 0 because none of those devices connected or not 2013-07-23T21:33:19 < R2COM> because FT232H and FT2232H/FT4232H are different kind of things 2013-07-23T21:36:48 <+Steffanx> Sorry, don't know. Only used it in combination with the 232R 2013-07-23T21:38:15 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T21:38:23 <+Steffanx> I only remember bad things when it comes to that 2013-07-23T21:38:25 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T21:39:08 <+Steffanx> There was one setup, actually more a location, where the 232R stopped functioning randomly. And only a system reboot fixed that issue. 2013-07-23T21:42:06 < Laurenceb> hmm 2013-07-23T21:42:14 < Laurenceb> yeah logf is screwed 2013-07-23T21:42:35 < Laurenceb> logf(0.29)=3.4e-6 2013-07-23T21:44:19 < Laurenceb> MARG = -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=fpv4-sp-d16 -fsingle-precision-constant 2013-07-23T21:44:22 < Laurenceb> looks sane? 2013-07-23T21:44:24 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.179] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T21:45:59 < jpa-> Laurenceb: uh.. -fsingle-precision-constant? 2013-07-23T21:47:02 < jpa-> but might work anyway 2013-07-23T21:47:19 < jpa-> Laurenceb: just step through the logf and see where it goes wrong? 2013-07-23T21:47:31 < Laurenceb> erm 2013-07-23T21:47:34 < jpa-> nothing to fear, it doesn't even have those scary space characters http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/newlib/libm/math/e_log.c?rev=1.2&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=src 2013-07-23T21:47:34 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T21:47:41 < Laurenceb> can i step through it 2013-07-23T21:47:42 < Laurenceb> oh 2013-07-23T21:47:48 < Laurenceb> i thought it was an asm lib.. 2013-07-23T21:48:00 < jpa-> you can step through asm code also... 2013-07-23T21:48:07 < Laurenceb> heh 2013-07-23T21:48:28 < Laurenceb> well something seems to have been broken by me upgrading toolchain 2013-07-23T21:48:38 < Laurenceb> - something in logf 2013-07-23T21:48:42 < jpa-> better see if it even takes the float argument correctly 2013-07-23T21:48:49 < jpa-> maybe you link to wrong version of newlib 2013-07-23T21:48:53 < Laurenceb> hmm 2013-07-23T21:49:09 < Laurenceb> this is a chibios project 2013-07-23T21:49:26 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro/blob/master/Makefile 2013-07-23T21:50:27 < jpa-> what toolchain? 2013-07-23T21:51:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T21:51:56 < Laurenceb> codesourcery 2013-07-23T21:52:25 < jpa-> does it even have hard float support? 2013-07-23T21:52:30 < jpa-> i mean, hard float abi 2013-07-23T21:52:48 < jpa-> it didn't really do multilib when i last used it.. 2013-07-23T21:53:21 < jpa-> what does arm-none-eabi-gcc --print-multi-lib 2013-07-23T21:53:24 < jpa-> say? 2013-07-23T21:54:30 < Laurenceb> thumb;@mthumb 2013-07-23T21:54:30 < Laurenceb> armv6-m;@mthumb@march=armv6-m 2013-07-23T21:54:30 < Laurenceb> thumb2;@mthumb@march=armv7@mfix-cortex-m3-ldrd 2013-07-23T21:55:05 < jpa-> you might want something with armv7-r/thumb/fpu;@mthumb@march=armv7-r@mfloat-abi=hard@mfpu=vfpv3-d16 2013-07-23T21:55:10 < Laurenceb> wait 2013-07-23T21:55:21 < Laurenceb> i think i had the arm gcc build before 2013-07-23T21:55:23 < Laurenceb> arggg 2013-07-23T21:55:26 < Laurenceb> to many compilers 2013-07-23T21:55:31 < Laurenceb> that may explain it 2013-07-23T21:55:37 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-23T21:55:54 <+Steffanx> Time to remove the shitload of different compilers you have Laurenceb? 2013-07-23T21:56:12 < jpa-> actually the line i pasted is wrong one 2013-07-23T21:56:16 <+Steffanx> Not the first time you have issues with that. 2013-07-23T21:56:20 < jpa-> armv7e-m/fpu;@mthumb@march=armv7e-m@mfloat-abi=hard@mfpu=fpv4-sp-d16 2013-07-23T21:56:21 < jpa-> this 2013-07-23T22:00:04 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-23T22:03:12 < Laurenceb> yessssss 2013-07-23T22:03:15 < Laurenceb> fixed it 2013-07-23T22:03:18 < Laurenceb> thanks for the help 2013-07-23T22:06:06 < emeb> yay - unexplained library incompatibilities w/o warnings or errors. 2013-07-23T22:06:22 < emeb> command line option roulette 2013-07-23T22:06:23 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T22:06:37 < R2COM> Steffanx: did you use this FTD2XX_NET ? 2013-07-23T22:06:44 <+Steffanx> Yes 2013-07-23T22:06:58 < R2COM> strange I dont see SPI related read/write commands in that file 2013-07-23T22:07:01 < R2COM> just Read/Write 2013-07-23T22:08:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T22:11:06 <+Steffanx> R2COM have AN_180 ? 2013-07-23T22:11:23 <+Steffanx> it seems to be in there... the code is vb.net but that's easy to port to C# 2013-07-23T22:11:23 < R2COM> AN_178 actually I guess 2013-07-23T22:11:28 < R2COM> hmm 2013-07-23T22:12:10 < R2COM> looking 2013-07-23T22:12:14 <+Steffanx> 180, FT232H MPSSE Example - USB Current 2013-07-23T22:12:14 <+Steffanx> Meter using the SPI Interface 2013-07-23T22:12:17 < R2COM> its using FTD2XX_NET to talk with FT232H? 2013-07-23T22:12:18 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-23T22:15:23 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T22:18:24 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T22:20:28 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T22:20:49 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-23T22:34:39 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T22:37:56 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-23T22:54:10 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-23T23:04:34 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.179] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 2013-07-23T23:08:53 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-23T23:09:26 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T23:16:27 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T23:18:26 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-23T23:19:00 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T23:19:55 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-23T23:21:25 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T23:30:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-23T23:36:41 < someone_r> so guys i tried to check all the power levels and they are fine... however i still have a 0.5 volt on NRST pin wich keep this pin LOW and thus i cannot flash a new firmware inside (core is held in reset)... 2013-07-23T23:37:44 < someone_r> now i have a small capacitor 100nF on NRST pin to ground.. it could be that ESD has damaged it and shortcircuited it? 2013-07-23T23:38:09 < someone_r> actually the equivalent resistance from the NRST pin to the GROUND is 7 kohm 2013-07-23T23:38:30 < someone_r> or is more likely that the STM is damaged? 2013-07-23T23:40:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-23T23:44:55 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-23T23:50:23 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-23T23:56:33 < someone_r> it was the capacitor --- Day changed Wed Jul 24 2013 2013-07-24T00:20:41 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-249-29.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T00:31:23 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-24T00:34:32 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T00:35:19 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T00:36:42 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T00:38:03 -!- Someone_relo [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T00:38:29 -!- Someone_relo [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-24T00:39:13 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T00:44:24 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-24T00:52:58 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T00:52:59 < Laurenceb__> sup 2013-07-24T01:20:10 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T01:21:33 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T01:27:54 < Tectu> how was the NE[1:4] pin set again for the FSMC bank1? You can hook up four different memories to that bank and I forgot how to actually define which one got which chip select >.> 2013-07-24T01:30:39 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T01:45:09 -!- piezoid [~piezo@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T01:55:01 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-24T02:00:09 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-24T02:04:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T02:12:00 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-24T02:15:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T02:18:50 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T02:24:06 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-24T02:29:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T02:32:54 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T02:36:19 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-24T02:37:29 < emeb> bloggin' 2013-07-24T02:37:32 < dongs> ya 2013-07-24T02:37:40 < zyp> dicking around with ntfs 2013-07-24T02:37:44 < emeb> blech 2013-07-24T02:37:45 < zyp> except not, I mean zfs 2013-07-24T02:38:07 < dongs> ya I knew you didnt mean ntfs when you started with "dicking" 2013-07-24T02:38:15 < dongs> cuz I have ~120tb on NTFS and I've had zero issues. 2013-07-24T02:38:47 < dongs> dicking = always associated with opening hte sores. 2013-07-24T02:38:49 < zyp> I don't have issues either, I'm just checking that this shit works, so I put some data on it and yanked a disk 2013-07-24T02:39:04 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/Igy6Y <- currently rebuilding 2013-07-24T02:39:06 < dongs> lol software raid 2013-07-24T02:39:12 < dongs> enjoy your aids 2013-07-24T02:39:13 < zyp> or «resilvering» as they call it 2013-07-24T02:39:26 < zyp> why? 2013-07-24T02:39:44 < dongs> no reason. just sayin'. 2013-07-24T02:41:38 < zyp> I kinda like the fact that the raid stuff is filesystem aware 2013-07-24T02:41:57 < zyp> so it doesn't waste time rebuilding terabytes of unused disk 2013-07-24T02:42:55 < karlp> how many disks do you hav eto get that 1.12T? 2013-07-24T02:43:12 < karlp> and how big is this meant to be when it's finished? 2013-07-24T02:43:26 < zyp> 1.12T is only the used part 2013-07-24T02:43:29 < karlp> everyone spending months rebuilding arrrays sounds like a massive pain. 2013-07-24T02:43:41 < karlp> 2TB disks are cheap, 2013-07-24T02:43:47 < zyp> this is 8x3TB 2013-07-24T02:44:00 < dongs> lol. 2013-07-24T02:44:09 < dongs> and what raid level is this? 2013-07-24T02:44:51 < zyp> z2, comparable to raid6 2013-07-24T02:45:10 < dongs> so you can have 2 disks shit itself and it'll still rebuild? 2013-07-24T02:45:14 < zyp> yes 2013-07-24T02:46:25 -!- talsit 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2013-07-24T02:53:53 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-24T02:54:23 < zyp> also, buying an extra spare drive along with the drives I were going to use proved useful, as one of the drives were DoA 2013-07-24T02:54:43 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T02:54:46 < dongs> kwalitee 2013-07-24T02:54:59 < dongs> how the fuck do you sell a 3tb drive dead 2013-07-24T02:55:26 < zyp> doesn't that happen fairly often? 2013-07-24T02:55:52 < dongs> well, my 120tb is mostly 2tb drives and I don't ever remember getting a DOA 2013-07-24T02:55:58 < dongs> i bought them in batches of like 24 or so 2013-07-24T02:56:08 < dongs> since thats how much I can stick in enclosure + sas expander 2013-07-24T02:56:55 < R2COM> and I run my win7 and programs on WD750GB 2013-07-24T02:56:58 < R2COM> caviar green 2013-07-24T02:57:06 < R2COM> and one of them black edition 2013-07-24T02:57:09 < zyp> ew 2013-07-24T02:57:13 < R2COM> what ew 2013-07-24T02:57:17 < zyp> wd green 2013-07-24T02:57:23 < R2COM> its reliable 2013-07-24T02:57:45 < zyp> yeah, you can rely on them being shitty 2013-07-24T02:57:58 < zyp> because I've never encountered one that weren't 2013-07-24T02:57:59 < R2COM> green considered mid performance so its not fast 2013-07-24T02:58:03 < R2COM> black edition is fastest 2013-07-24T02:58:37 < R2COM> WD black edition <1TB is good choice I assume 2013-07-24T02:58:43 < R2COM> for reliability&speed 2013-07-24T02:59:02 < dongs> hows that jewbuntu phone doing 2013-07-24T02:59:15 < dongs> haha 3.6mil 2013-07-24T02:59:56 < zyp> talked to a couple of pals about it, then they threw away some money :p 2013-07-24T02:59:59 < karlp> if you only have one drive offline for months at a time, and it only comes on to be an rsync target, you don't notice the failure rates of cheap drives 2013-07-24T03:00:00 < dongs> lets pay $860 now for shit that may or may not come out next year, using obsolete hardware 2013-07-24T03:00:14 < karlp> if you insist on running raid and keeping all the drives all the same all the time, you see failures. 2013-07-24T03:00:31 < karlp> the only people I know who regularly see drive failures are the people who built redundant harddrive arrays..... 2013-07-24T03:01:41 < zyp> karlp, you mean the only people you know who regularly see drive failures are the ones with many drives, and therefore statistically inclined to regularly see drive failures? :p 2013-07-24T03:02:54 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T03:03:32 < karlp> sure, 2013-07-24T03:03:41 < gxti_> i have a raid5 of greens, it performs like the shitheap it is but nothing failed yet 2013-07-24T03:03:47 < karlp> but they're building these big arrays so they can.... be safe... or something.... 2013-07-24T03:04:02 < karlp> I guess I appreciate someone being a pirate bay super seed..... 2013-07-24T03:04:57 < gxti_> maybe if you stopped... using a whole lot of ellipses... after every few words.... you might figure it out 2013-07-24T03:05:10 < dongs> i thought they were called dots 2013-07-24T03:05:13 < zyp> karlp, drives will fail, being in arrays or not 2013-07-24T03:05:14 < karlp> d...o...u...b...t...f...u...l........ 2013-07-24T03:05:22 < dongs> k 4L panel deadline today looks like I have to finish this shit up 2013-07-24T03:05:28 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T03:05:41 < karlp> zyp: yeah, but if I've got ~3Tb of data, do I really need to keep 4 drives online and running all the time staying madly in sync? 2013-07-24T03:05:45 < zyp> karlp, and parity redundancy is cheaper than storing two full copies 2013-07-24T03:05:50 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T03:05:54 * karlp shrugs 2013-07-24T03:06:06 < gxti_> parity is usually not a good idea anymore 2013-07-24T03:06:12 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T03:06:17 < karlp> I'm just justifying my own lazier/simpler/more manual system to myself 2013-07-24T03:06:20 < zyp> :p 2013-07-24T03:06:27 < gxti_> if you work out the math with the capacities drives have, and the error rates of the drives, you're pretty much setting up for failure 2013-07-24T03:06:28 -!- Rickta59_ is now known as Rickta59 2013-07-24T03:06:34 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-24T03:06:39 < dongs> ya your opinion kinda became invalid when you said "rsync" 2013-07-24T03:07:05 < zyp> gxti_, and that's where zfs is supposed to step in 2013-07-24T03:07:15 < zyp> hence why I run zfs 2013-07-24T03:07:20 < karlp> dongs: I did say it was manual :) 2013-07-24T03:07:44 < karlp> when I've imported new photos or so, I turn on the spare drive and run the backup thing. 2013-07-24T03:08:08 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T03:08:11 < zyp> karlp, nothing says I can't power off the raid 2013-07-24T03:08:19 < gxti_> raid and backups aren't the same thing karlp 2013-07-24T03:08:27 < zyp> in fact, my raid5 has been powered off since last year 2013-07-24T03:09:07 < karlp> gxti_: I get that, but a lot of the people I hear about (w00 check out that anecdote) ar eonly using raid type systems to _be_ the backup. 2013-07-24T03:09:21 < karlp> I'm just doing backups instead. 2013-07-24T03:09:41 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T03:12:55 < zyp> the main motivation for building a new fileserver now was the fact that the 2TB drive in my workstation filled up, and I don't want to delete shit on it, so I need somewhere to move it to 2013-07-24T03:13:17 < zyp> and I don't really trust the old raid 2013-07-24T03:13:52 < R2COM> I want 2TB SRAM chip 2013-07-24T03:14:18 < R2COM> :) 2013-07-24T03:14:52 < R2COM> and do fft like a pro 2013-07-24T03:16:51 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-24T03:18:27 < dongs> so if I wanna run STM32 off another clock do i just stick it into XTAL_IN_P? 2013-07-24T03:18:34 < zyp> yep 2013-07-24T03:18:46 < dongs> dont need cap/resistor/wahtever in it? 2013-07-24T03:19:48 < R2COM> if line which runs towards that input from whatever is long, I would put series resistor at the source to relatively match it, and decrease reflections 2013-07-24T03:21:04 < zyp> according to datasheet you don't need any magic 2013-07-24T03:21:42 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@93.sub-75-233-40.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-24T03:21:47 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/9O5w0zH.png 2013-07-24T03:21:53 < zyp> osc_in has a schmitt trigger, so any relatively sane waveform should work 2013-07-24T03:21:54 < dongs> this is what my source clock looks ike 2013-07-24T03:22:11 < zyp> yeah, that should be fine 2013-07-24T03:22:18 < dongs> including vpp? 2013-07-24T03:22:24 < zyp> yep 2013-07-24T03:22:27 < dongs> which appnote has the clocking shit 2013-07-24T03:22:30 < dongs> i thought i had it 2013-07-24T03:22:41 < zyp> datasheet 2013-07-24T03:22:43 < dongs> oh 2013-07-24T03:23:02 < zyp> operating conditions -> external clock source 2013-07-24T03:23:03 < dongs> 16MHz can do USB still? 2013-07-24T03:23:19 < zyp> what family is this? 2013-07-24T03:23:24 < dongs> F103 2013-07-24T03:23:25 < dongs> OSC_IN input pin high level voltage 0.7VDD VDD 2013-07-24T03:23:29 < dongs> VDD = 3.3 2013-07-24T03:23:41 < zyp> hang on, let me check 2013-07-24T03:23:41 < dongs> doesnt that mean lowest high is 2.3V? 2013-07-24T03:24:37 < dongs> i dont think it'll wokr 2013-07-24T03:24:51 < zyp> oh, sorry, I looked a bit fast so I read 0.7V :p 2013-07-24T03:24:53 < dongs> and the shit outputting 1.2V clock's core runs at 1.2V thats probly why the clock is that 2013-07-24T03:25:10 < dongs> ok, fuckit, 12mhz xtals are cheap 2013-07-24T03:25:19 < dongs> just im gonna have 4 of them in this board, yuck. 2013-07-24T03:25:54 < zyp> sounds weird that it would require that high voltage, I don't think it runs that high with a crystal 2013-07-24T03:25:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-24T03:26:12 < dongs> pretty sure crystal is a lot lower 2013-07-24T03:26:18 < dongs> wasnt crystal somehing like 500mV 2013-07-24T03:26:20 < dongs> when it oscillates? 2013-07-24T03:26:21 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T03:27:57 < gxti_> sure, maybe 1V tops 2013-07-24T03:27:59 < zyp> anyway, F1 usb clock is generated from sysclock, so as long as you can generate 72 MHz sysclock, usb will work fine 2013-07-24T03:28:14 < dongs> and looks like i cant with 16m 2013-07-24T03:28:17 < dongs> 72/16 = 4.5 2013-07-24T03:28:24 < dongs> you cant have fractional prescalers on hse 2013-07-24T03:28:43 < zyp> 16 / 2 * 9 = 72 2013-07-24T03:28:49 < dongs> why /2? 2013-07-24T03:28:52 < dongs> only HSI is /2? 2013-07-24T03:28:56 < gxti_> pll has a max input freq anyway 2013-07-24T03:29:04 < dongs> max for Fxx is like 25mhz 2013-07-24T03:29:09 < dongs> so thats fine 2013-07-24T03:29:42 < zyp> dongs, PLLXTPRE divides HSE by 2 2013-07-24T03:30:02 < dongs> mkay. 2013-07-24T03:30:03 < dongs> well 2013-07-24T03:30:16 < dongs> still, with 1.2V clock I guess it wont work. 2013-07-24T03:30:19 < dongs> so better not even try. 2013-07-24T03:30:38 < gxti_> it's possible but probably not worth it 2013-07-24T03:30:42 < zyp> otherwise you could do 16 * 3 and USBPRE = /1 instead of /1.5 :p 2013-07-24T03:31:01 < dongs> heh 2013-07-24T03:31:12 < gxti_> F1 PLL1 has max input of 12mhz btw 2013-07-24T03:31:20 < gxti_> the HSE max is much higher but you have to divide to use pll 2013-07-24T03:31:32 < dongs> oh ok. 2013-07-24T03:31:58 < gxti_> and pll2/pll3 are even worse, 3-5mhz only 2013-07-24T03:34:26 < zyp> gxti_, so with PLLXTPRE you're still fine 2013-07-24T03:36:16 < zyp> ah, HSE crystal and HSE external source have seperate modes, controlled by HSEBYP bit 2013-07-24T03:36:48 < zyp> so I assume that with HSEBYP set, it won't amplify the input 2013-07-24T03:36:50 < gxti_> yes, we already had a lovely chat about this exact subject last week. if i had a function gen handy i'd see how sensitive it is in the two modes. 2013-07-24T03:36:54 < dongs> if I got about 8cm of usb traces, should I put resistors near socket or near mcu 2013-07-24T03:37:21 < zyp> near mcu I would assume 2013-07-24T03:37:39 < gxti_> there's no reason it would need to be near the socket because the socket is just metal, so mcu makes more sense. 2013-07-24T03:37:54 < zyp> probably 8cm doesn't matter, since usb is specced to 500cm 2013-07-24T03:37:55 < gxti_> probably makes little practical difference 2013-07-24T04:06:22 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T04:10:58 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T04:20:24 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T04:32:47 -!- DLPeterson 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how I did that error 2013-07-24T07:20:47 < R2COM> how was swimmin dongs? 2013-07-24T07:20:57 < R2COM> any cute japanese girls in a pool? 2013-07-24T07:22:46 < dongs> sup dongs 2013-07-24T07:23:19 < dongs> R2COM: i got a private beach, noone there but me + random relatives kids that dragged along 2013-07-24T07:23:36 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T07:25:27 < R2COM> second part must be annoying I guess 2013-07-24T07:28:55 < baird> I'm guessing that's /paying/ to enter a beach. Eww. 2013-07-24T07:30:43 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCpmsEz34FI 2013-07-24T07:30:50 < dongs> baird: wut 2013-07-24T07:30:54 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T07:30:56 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.173] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T07:30:59 < dongs> as in my fucking beach 2013-07-24T07:34:52 < emeb_mac> seems like an odd number of props would be harder to balance out forces. 2013-07-24T07:43:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T07:47:31 < dongs> 4L finished, just in time for paneling 2013-07-24T07:52:33 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T07:53:15 < emeb_mac> by the skin of his teeth 2013-07-24T07:54:38 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T07:58:19 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T08:00:34 < R2COM> http://i.imgur.com/opN8OJC.jpg 2013-07-24T08:00:39 < R2COM> xD 2013-07-24T08:00:54 < dongs> hey 2013-07-24T08:00:58 < dongs> thats hte connector i need 2013-07-24T08:01:00 < dongs> that green one 2013-07-24T08:01:02 < dongs> but angle version 2013-07-24T08:01:04 < dongs> got a part#? 2013-07-24T08:01:07 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-24T08:01:12 < dongs> is that 5.08mm pitch? 2013-07-24T08:01:18 < R2COM> I believe yes 2013-07-24T08:01:21 < R2COM> 1 sec 2013-07-24T08:01:30 < R2COM> 200mil 2013-07-24T08:01:48 < dongs> right 2013-07-24T08:01:49 < dongs> 5.08 2013-07-24T08:01:51 < R2COM> A98307-ND 2013-07-24T08:02:09 < dongs> is there a rightangle versioN/ 2013-07-24T08:02:37 < dongs> clickin datasheet. 2013-07-24T08:02:37 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T08:02:38 < englishman> R2COM: looks nice :) a lot nicer than your render :P 2013-07-24T08:02:56 < dongs> jebus 2013-07-24T08:02:57 < dongs> that PDF 2013-07-24T08:03:04 < dongs> is like 27megs 2013-07-24T08:04:08 < R2COM> thats cool connector 2013-07-24T08:04:13 < R2COM> but I failed a little with planning 2013-07-24T08:04:20 < R2COM> I wanted to use it on those switch channels too 2013-07-24T08:04:27 < R2COM> but its plug version is right angled 2013-07-24T08:04:29 < R2COM> it wouldnt fit 2013-07-24T08:04:31 < dongs> Right-Angle Header 2013-07-24T08:04:31 < dongs> w/Locking Screw Flange, 2013-07-24T08:04:31 < dongs> 5.08 mm Centerline, 2013-07-24T08:04:32 < dongs> Color – Green 2013-07-24T08:04:33 < dongs> there it is 2013-07-24T08:04:45 < dongs> 796866-2 2013-07-24T08:04:58 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?pv1075=3&k=796866-2&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 2013-07-24T08:05:05 < dongs> A98302-ND 2013-07-24T08:05:16 < R2COM> thats surface mount 2013-07-24T08:05:18 < R2COM> I guess 2013-07-24T08:05:21 < dongs> huh no its not 2013-07-24T08:05:27 < dongs> look at the pic 2013-07-24T08:05:34 < dongs> i8ts just right angle version of your shit excatly 2013-07-24T08:05:40 < R2COM> yes 2013-07-24T08:05:55 < dongs> infact its probably exactly samea and they just paid some chinese 2013-07-24T08:05:58 < dongs> to bend the pins 2013-07-24T08:06:01 < dongs> 90 degrees 2013-07-24T08:06:04 < dongs> because the case looks same 2013-07-24T08:08:46 < R2COM> I had to design one for 500mA, I designed it for 5A the switch 2013-07-24T08:09:00 < R2COM> tested so far just with 1A, and its not even warm (the board) 2013-07-24T08:10:35 < R2COM> right anbgle of this conn will take like 1.5x more space 2013-07-24T08:10:40 < R2COM> on pcb 2013-07-24T08:10:53 < dongs> haha 2013-07-24T08:10:59 < dongs> one of 4L boards in the panel is ALL FUCKING DIP 2013-07-24T08:11:09 < dongs> why the fuck did they make it 4 2013-07-24T08:11:12 < dongs> just lazied out routing I bet 2013-07-24T08:12:38 < dongs> oh no 2013-07-24T08:12:40 < dongs> there's a soic8 smt 2013-07-24T08:12:45 < dongs> couple of htem 2013-07-24T08:12:56 < dongs> the rest is all fucking dip, even resistors 2013-07-24T08:15:04 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-24T08:16:15 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-146-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-24T08:16:29 < R2COM> being late for gym 2013-07-24T08:16:34 < R2COM> but its never late 2013-07-24T08:18:49 < jpa-> hm, back at work, vacation is over :/ 2013-07-24T08:18:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T08:21:46 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T08:24:25 < dongs> R2COM: wait, wtf 2013-07-24T08:24:31 < dongs> thaT LTxxx shit is a highside gate driver already 2013-07-24T08:24:34 < dongs> what else are you driving with it? 2013-07-24T08:24:39 < dongs> another gate driver? 2013-07-24T08:25:36 < dongs> the DFN-10 or so lookin shit 2013-07-24T08:31:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T08:31:57 < dongs> o right he went to gym 2013-07-24T08:35:23 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-139-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T08:40:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-24T08:46:18 < zyp> dongs, sounds like you've encountered a dipshit 2013-07-24T08:46:23 < dongs> heh 2013-07-24T08:47:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-24T08:49:21 < englishman> what's a good, cheap source for stm32f103 that's not ebay 2013-07-24T08:51:44 < zyp> waveshare 2013-07-24T08:55:58 < englishman> ooh, not bad 2013-07-24T08:56:30 < emeb_mac> do they actually sell bare parts? 2013-07-24T08:56:46 < emeb_mac> everything I've looked at so far comes up "unknown" 2013-07-24T08:56:53 < emeb_mac> (for prices) 2013-07-24T08:57:04 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:03:06 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:04:27 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-24T09:04:29 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T09:04:29 -!- ossifrage [~ossifrage@c-71-224-59-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T09:04:55 -!- ossifrage [~ossifrage@c-71-224-59-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:05:46 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:08:49 < englishman> thanks zyp 2013-07-24T09:11:33 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-24T09:24:27 < dongs> emeb_mac: f103cb they do 2013-07-24T09:24:34 < dongs> and other common ones 2013-07-24T09:24:56 < emeb_mac> ya - I found a few with pricing, but most say "Call" 2013-07-24T09:25:12 < dongs> they reply in 30 seconds onskype etc 2013-07-24T09:25:26 < dongs> http://irclo.gr/i/121621/VayWkm0.jpg 2013-07-24T09:26:12 < emeb_mac> ceiling cat is watching you masticate 2013-07-24T09:28:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:29:34 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-24T09:29:35 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:33:13 < arnonh> how did he get there ?????? 2013-07-24T09:33:26 < dongs> lunix 2013-07-24T09:33:33 < emeb_mac> bloggin' 2013-07-24T09:36:51 -!- Ijna [~X@host-143-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:41:31 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:41:31 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T09:41:31 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:42:37 < dongs> haha 2013-07-24T09:42:40 < dongs> intel NUC for sale at mouser 2013-07-24T09:43:08 < emeb_mac> NUC? 2013-07-24T09:44:06 < dongs> http://jp.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Intel/BOXDC53427HYE/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspCjQQiuQ1fAYsWQQVzyn7VgOyJRB7n2o%3d 2013-07-24T09:44:13 < dongs> their small form factor destop pc.. 2013-07-24T09:44:16 < dongs> not sure why its on mouser.. 2013-07-24T09:44:27 < dongs> its more of a consumer / barebones shit 2013-07-24T09:44:30 < dongs> that belongs at like bestbuy 2013-07-24T09:46:58 < gnomad> $100 cheaper at newegg... 2013-07-24T09:47:06 < dongs> right. 2013-07-24T09:49:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:52:20 < zyp> I've considered getting one 2013-07-24T09:54:07 < dongs> im getting one for wifecop 2013-07-24T09:54:13 < dongs> not the nuc tho 2013-07-24T09:54:15 < dongs> gigabyte brix 2013-07-24T09:54:18 < dongs> cheaper, same shit 2013-07-24T09:54:49 < dongs> shat brix 2013-07-24T09:55:19 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T09:56:38 -!- Ijna [~X@host-143-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T09:59:37 < emeb_mac> heh - the power brick is bigger than the computer 2013-07-24T09:59:47 < R2COM> dongs: I'm driving 20A mosfets with that LTC driver. 2013-07-24T10:00:23 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-24T10:00:57 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T10:02:12 < R2COM> thats a very good and robust mosfet driver, its avionics grade part 2013-07-24T10:02:27 < R2COM> can take a huge transient hits without being damaged 2013-07-24T10:02:37 < dongs> R2COM: im talking about the other crap thats on driver outputs 2013-07-24T10:02:42 < dongs> why isnt it going directly to gates 2013-07-24T10:03:07 < dongs> emeb_mac: yeah 2013-07-24T10:03:17 < R2COM> all that stuff is different type of protection from different possible bad situations which might occur with various loads 2013-07-24T10:03:32 < R2COM> capacitive load, inductive, instant inductive load, reverse residue currents etc 2013-07-24T10:03:50 < R2COM> gate protection of mosfets 2013-07-24T10:04:14 < dongs> sounds like more spaceX shit 2013-07-24T10:04:18 < R2COM> mosfet source reverse residue current protection etc 2013-07-24T10:04:44 < R2COM> + additional decouplers with tantals at each channel 2013-07-24T10:05:00 < R2COM> and in-rush control as well 2013-07-24T10:05:16 < emeb_mac> looks like newegg sells 3 versions - I5, I3 and Celeron. $400/$290/$170 2013-07-24T10:05:41 < dongs> yea 2013-07-24T10:05:47 < dongs> brix is cheaper still tho 2013-07-24T10:06:01 < dongs> or it was last i checked 2013-07-24T10:06:01 < dongs> duno 2013-07-24T10:06:04 < dongs> maybe intel shit is onsale 2013-07-24T10:06:21 < dongs> hm no brix has no celeron 2013-07-24T10:06:28 < dongs> i t hink ill get celewrong shit 2013-07-24T10:06:34 < dongs> should be better than atom 2013-07-24T10:06:51 < R2COM> whats the hottest processor nowadays? 2013-07-24T10:07:02 < dongs> they all run around ~50-60C w/stock cooler. 2013-07-24T10:07:21 < R2COM> I'm still very happy with my AMD 6 cylinder machine 2013-07-24T10:07:27 < R2COM> err 2013-07-24T10:07:29 < R2COM> 6 core I mean 2013-07-24T10:07:42 < dongs> haha amd 2013-07-24T10:07:59 < R2COM> its doing pretty cool, I'm loading it with all possible and impossible shit 2013-07-24T10:08:03 < emeb_mac> surprised celeron is still a thing 2013-07-24T10:08:10 -!- DanteA [~X@host-143-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T10:08:10 < R2COM> at same time can browse websites, etc 2013-07-24T10:08:24 < dongs> simulate rockets on 5 cores, browse porn wiht the 6th 2013-07-24T10:08:29 < R2COM> I run emag simulation of circuits, while doing pcb layout etc 2013-07-24T10:08:41 < R2COM> i dont even feel like its lagging 2013-07-24T10:09:02 < R2COM> 8 GB DDR3 + 6 core 3.2GHz PhenomII black edition processor 2013-07-24T10:09:11 < R2COM> win7 64 2013-07-24T10:09:29 < R2COM> I am working with Intel machines too 2013-07-24T10:09:32 < R2COM> doing same stuff 2013-07-24T10:09:39 < R2COM> surprisingly...dont feel any difference :) 2013-07-24T10:10:06 < R2COM> the only one who will feel it, the performance evaluator who runs his benchmarks doing some stupid thing which I dont do...or which my apps dont do 2013-07-24T10:10:17 < R2COM> thats why... I dont feel like Intel would give me something what this machine doesnt 2013-07-24T10:11:09 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T10:11:10 < R2COM> paying to Intel when you dont have to is like paying for Jaguar...just because its Jaguar :) 2013-07-24T10:13:32 < zyp> 09:07:02 < dongs> they all run around ~50-60C w/stock cooler. 2013-07-24T10:13:34 < zyp> laughed 2013-07-24T10:15:17 < zyp> R2COM, well, duh, all intel processors aren't faster than all amd processors 2013-07-24T10:15:47 < R2COM> I was talking about ones which are more expencive. 2013-07-24T10:15:48 < zyp> it's just that the fastest intel beats the fastest amd pretty well 2013-07-24T10:15:49 < R2COM> ...obviously 2013-07-24T10:16:09 < R2COM> it beats for sure, but not on all applications user can feel it 2013-07-24T10:16:14 < R2COM> is what I was trying to tell. 2013-07-24T10:17:40 < zyp> what I'm reading is that you believe that your machine is fast enough, so you're not interested in paying more for it being faster 2013-07-24T10:18:57 < R2COM> I'm not interested as long as my job I am doing here gets done faster too 2013-07-24T10:19:24 < dongs> ircing needs octocore 2013-07-24T10:19:26 < dongs> minimum 2013-07-24T10:19:33 < R2COM> users and applications are different 2013-07-24T10:19:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-24T10:19:56 < R2COM> who knows maybe someone works with some crypotographic stuff...and for him it would turn out that intel boosts his productivity much more...or something like that. 2013-07-24T10:20:47 < R2COM> dongs: actually amd has 8 core processor ;) 2013-07-24T10:20:56 < dongs> isnt black edition the cheapest trash 2013-07-24T10:20:59 < R2COM> I think intel too 2013-07-24T10:21:01 < dongs> for gaymers who cant afford real intel stuff 2013-07-24T10:21:15 < zyp> dongs, did you hear about the new motorola 8 core phone? 2013-07-24T10:21:16 < R2COM> black edition unlocked considered most expencive 2013-07-24T10:21:29 < dongs> whats it made out of? 2013-07-24T10:21:31 < dongs> i mean what soc? 2013-07-24T10:21:42 < R2COM> its made out of sand ;) 2013-07-24T10:21:47 < dongs> heh 2013-07-24T10:22:06 < zyp> dongs, some qualcomm dualcore shit, and then they count gpu cores and some other shit to market it as 8 core 2013-07-24T10:22:12 < dongs> oh 2013-07-24T10:22:14 < dongs> lol faggots. 2013-07-24T10:22:26 < dongs> jewbunto edge is gonna rape it 2013-07-24T10:22:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-24T10:22:34 < zyp> people were laughing about it in another channel yesterday, hang on I'll find url 2013-07-24T10:23:08 < dongs> found 2013-07-24T10:23:12 < dongs> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/07/motorolas-8-core-x8-chip-gives-us-a-lesson-in-marketing-speak/ 2013-07-24T10:23:12 < zyp> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/07/motorolas-8-core-x8-chip-gives-us-a-lesson-in-marketing-speak/ 2013-07-24T10:23:15 < dongs> ya 2013-07-24T10:23:15 < zyp> :p 2013-07-24T10:23:35 < dongs> looks like assdroid tho 2013-07-24T10:23:37 < dongs> so its fail by design 2013-07-24T10:23:49 < dongs> my HTC had a PHONE button in teh fucking center 2013-07-24T10:23:50 < dongs> not APPS 2013-07-24T10:23:59 < dongs> i pickup a phone, chnaces are i want to use it to make a fucking call 2013-07-24T10:24:05 < dongs> not to dick around with angry birds 2013-07-24T10:25:33 < zyp> heh 2013-07-24T10:26:11 < R2COM> dongs: try this phone http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/97/31/63503541845522/0/hack-your-old-phone-line-into-emergency-power-supply-for-your-cell-phone.w654.jpg 2013-07-24T10:26:17 < zyp> if I were only interested in making calls, I wouldn't buy a smartphone 2013-07-24T10:29:46 < zyp> what I like about having a smartphone is the fact that I can look up shit anywhere 2013-07-24T10:30:37 < jpa-> isn't looking up shit even more efficient if the OS on the smartphone is shit itself? :) 2013-07-24T10:30:42 < zyp> especially maps and directions when I'm walking around and getting lost in places like seoul :p 2013-07-24T10:30:43 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-24T10:31:42 < jpa-> i have just a dumb phone but it shows maps just fine 2013-07-24T10:32:39 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T10:35:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T10:36:33 < zyp> sure sure, even a piece of paper can «show maps» 2013-07-24T10:39:48 -!- DanteA [~X@host-143-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T10:46:14 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-139-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T10:55:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T10:58:52 < dongs> whats the status on chats 2013-07-24T10:59:25 < zyp> status: too little 2013-07-24T10:59:32 < dongs> thats what im sayin. 2013-07-24T10:59:46 < jpa-> chats not possible: chatter failure 2013-07-24T10:59:59 < zyp> anyone doing any interesting new projects? 2013-07-24T11:00:08 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:00:19 < dongs> im doing some boring quad displayport>lcd shit. 2013-07-24T11:00:27 < dongs> for boring 2 lane panels 2013-07-24T11:00:46 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-24T11:00:47 < dongs> it does have stm32 on it. 2013-07-24T11:01:02 < dongs> oh 2013-07-24T11:01:05 < zyp> did mobility displayport fail? 2013-07-24T11:01:09 < dongs> i received my chinese lvds drivers 2013-07-24T11:01:11 < dongs> mobility? 2013-07-24T11:01:15 < zyp> mydp 2013-07-24T11:01:23 < zyp> the shit nexus 4 has instead of MHL 2013-07-24T11:01:27 < dongs> Mobility DisplayPort, also known as MyDP or SlimPort, has been released in June 2012. It uses a micro-USB connector and passive cables to support 2013-07-24T11:01:31 < dongs> really? 2013-07-24T11:01:35 < zyp> yes 2013-07-24T11:02:01 < dongs> haha 2013-07-24T11:02:04 < zyp> mydp is 1-lane dp muxed on a usb port, just like MHL is 1-lane HDMI 2013-07-24T11:02:16 < dongs> 1 lane,, so it can do like 720piss max? 2013-07-24T11:02:26 < zyp> I think it's 1080p max 2013-07-24T11:03:17 < zyp> I just haven't seen or heard about anything else using it since 2013-07-24T11:03:25 < dongs> so it only works to output useless videos to tv? 2013-07-24T11:03:28 < dongs> can you display GUI? 2013-07-24T11:03:30 < dongs> no right? 2013-07-24T11:03:36 < dongs> oh looks like you can 2013-07-24T11:03:38 < dongs> it just mirrors. 2013-07-24T11:03:57 < zyp> that would be all up to the software I guess 2013-07-24T11:04:32 < zyp> I assume it's similar to MHL in that regard 2013-07-24T11:05:48 < zyp> was looking at phone accessories at yodobashi last time I were in japan, but I didn't see anything mydp, only mhl 2013-07-24T11:06:01 < zyp> not that I'm really interested, I'm just curious 2013-07-24T11:06:11 < dongs> you wont find anything nonjap in the phoen stores 2013-07-24T11:06:19 < dongs> good luck getting a case for a phone that isnt sold in jp 2013-07-24T11:06:21 < dongs> for example 2013-07-24T11:06:33 < dongs> last phone case I bought in jp was for htc desire 2013-07-24T11:06:37 < dongs> since shitbank had same thing on sale 2013-07-24T11:06:43 < zyp> they had a bunch of s3 accessories, at least 2013-07-24T11:06:59 < zyp> so I dunno 2013-07-24T11:08:23 < dongs> prettty sure someone sellse s3 2013-07-24T11:08:24 < dongs> carrier 2013-07-24T11:09:05 < zyp> ah, of course 2013-07-24T11:09:11 < zyp> I read «made in jp» 2013-07-24T11:09:25 < zyp> :p 2013-07-24T11:10:33 < zyp> so, I guess nexus 4 aren't officially sold there? 2013-07-24T11:11:35 < zyp> I actually saw the original nexus 4 qi charger in a small shop in akihabara, I guess it was imported 2013-07-24T11:11:54 < dongs> no, jewgle store doesnt evne allow to buy htem from here 2013-07-24T11:11:57 < zyp> considerably more expensive than the panasonic chargepad though 2013-07-24T11:12:01 < dongs> i had to get my pal to use u.s. store 2013-07-24T11:12:01 < dongs> yeahn 2013-07-24T11:12:06 < dongs> i was gonna get the nexus charge shit 2013-07-24T11:12:08 < dongs> but it was lik $60 2013-07-24T11:12:10 < dongs> so wtf 2013-07-24T11:12:56 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:13:06 < zyp> I was gonna have a pal pick up one for me when he went to us for christmas, but it weren't in stock yet 2013-07-24T11:14:14 < zyp> so I got it from a norwegian store instead, which turned out way more expensive with tax and everything 2013-07-24T11:14:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:14:56 < zyp> not that it would matter much if I bought something else instead, everything is expensive in norway :p 2013-07-24T11:22:27 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:24:01 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:24:50 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:27:35 -!- CoolBear_ [~hightower@ti0069a380-0372.bb.online.no] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:28:27 -!- rmob [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:28:39 -!- dongs_ [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:28:52 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:28:52 < dongs_> fucking garbage 2013-07-24T11:28:53 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T11:28:53 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:28:59 -!- dongie_ [~no@bcas.tv] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:29:54 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:29:54 -!- CoolBear [~hightower@ti0069a380-0372.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:29:55 -!- dongs [~dongs@218.219.212.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:29:55 -!- dongie [~no@67.228.87.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:29:57 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:29:57 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:29:57 -!- rmob_ [~rmob@178-26-78-228-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:30:00 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:30:18 -!- dongs_ is now known as dongs 2013-07-24T11:30:24 -!- dongie_ is now known as dongie 2013-07-24T11:40:08 -!- Robint91 [~Robin@dD5776E9E.access.telenet.be] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:40:11 < Robint91> hi all 2013-07-24T11:40:28 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:40:29 < Robint91> what is the standby current I can expect from a STM32F100C8 2013-07-24T11:40:37 < Robint91> I'm measuring around 100uA 2013-07-24T11:40:48 < Robint91> with some extra mems sensors 2013-07-24T11:41:08 < Robint91> I go into STOPMode with the regulator in lowpower mode 2013-07-24T11:44:54 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:45:09 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@69.158.137.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:49:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:50:48 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-24T11:54:26 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T11:56:19 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T11:57:57 -!- talsit is now known as tlst_sulk 2013-07-24T12:00:55 -!- tlst_sulk is now known as talsit 2013-07-24T12:01:13 -!- DanteA [~X@host-207-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T12:06:12 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T12:15:57 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T12:24:25 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-139-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T12:32:31 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.173] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 2013-07-24T12:33:40 < gnomad> does the datasheet have anything to say on this topic? 2013-07-24T12:39:02 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T12:40:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-24T12:45:35 < zyp> it should 2013-07-24T12:48:23 < Robint91> gnomad, zyp they tell around 25uA for the CPU 2013-07-24T12:48:28 < Robint91> and 50uA for the flash 2013-07-24T12:48:46 < Robint91> so in total around 75uA at 25°C 2013-07-24T12:49:05 < Robint91> now the current has settled around 91uA 2013-07-24T12:49:17 < Robint91> but half an hour ago it was around 150uA 2013-07-24T12:50:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T12:57:55 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-139-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T13:02:42 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:05:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T13:07:22 < dongs> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/7/23/12/enhanced-buzz-3308-1374596991-4.jpg 2013-07-24T13:07:43 < Laurenceb> http://www.b3tards.com/u/f0395281a36db298c9bb/chumpiguana.jpg 2013-07-24T13:13:06 < zyp> Robint91, sounds pretty reasonable, no? 2013-07-24T13:13:22 < Robint91> zyp, yeah, but I don't understand that drift 2013-07-24T13:13:27 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-203-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:13:40 < Robint91> zyp, now touching 76uA 2013-07-24T13:13:43 < Robint91> on the meter 2013-07-24T13:13:49 < zyp> can you trust your meter? 2013-07-24T13:14:06 < Robint91> a agilent 34450a 2013-07-24T13:14:08 < Robint91> yes 2013-07-24T13:14:20 < Robint91> I trust that thing 2013-07-24T13:15:02 < zyp> ok, then I guess there are some temp-dependent leaks or something like that 2013-07-24T13:15:17 < zyp> or maybe some weird capacitances that's being charged 2013-07-24T13:16:10 < Robint91> zyp, my guess also but It is still strange 2013-07-24T13:18:11 -!- Holau [5388f6d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.246.214] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:26:15 < Robint91> zyp, it is now sub 70uA 2013-07-24T13:35:21 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@b071.apm.etc.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-24T13:36:38 -!- Blok [~Blok@unaffiliated/blok] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:40:14 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T13:42:46 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:42:51 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925199935.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:42:51 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925199935.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T13:42:51 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T13:51:18 < gnomad> is the cpu waking from sleep at all? that could easily explain the difference. 2013-07-24T13:54:09 < jpa-> Robint91: do you have some IO pins floating? 2013-07-24T13:54:34 < jpa-> Robint91: if a input pin does not have pull-up/pull-down, it'll float midway and leak some current through the input FET totem pole 2013-07-24T13:54:43 < Robint91> gnomad, it is sleeping all the time 2013-07-24T13:55:02 < Robint91> jpa-, mhh I have a few pins in floating 2013-07-24T14:00:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T14:00:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T14:00:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T14:17:53 -!- CoolBear_ is now known as CoolBear 2013-07-24T14:22:03 -!- DanteA [~X@host-207-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T14:23:01 < dongs> http://farm1.staticflickr.com/65/208110144_3fb012e6fb_o.jpg 2013-07-24T14:23:06 < dongs> totem pole 2013-07-24T14:24:11 < karlp> no: http://www.grantdixonphotography.com.au/lib_images/TAS_TotemPole2.jpg 2013-07-24T14:25:23 < dongs> thats a nice dong 2013-07-24T14:30:02 < karlp> different one nearby: http://farm1.staticflickr.com/162/426711907_82a545e6f8_z.jpg?zz=1 2013-07-24T14:30:28 <+Steffanx> There is some contest about when that thing will fall isn't it karlp? 2013-07-24T14:32:15 < karlp> not those two, they're pretty stable, 2013-07-24T14:32:20 < karlp> there's others though 2013-07-24T14:32:33 < karlp> this one for instance http://palmtree.beeroclock.net/~karlp/Totem%20pole%20-%20Wollemi%20NP_resize.jpg 2013-07-24T14:32:54 * karlp shrugs, rock stacks all over the world, they fall, they form.... 2013-07-24T14:33:48 <+Steffanx> That last one is nice 2013-07-24T14:34:22 <+Steffanx> ( but something in me says it's faked, damn internet ) 2013-07-24T14:35:06 < karlp> I've been up this one: http://www.cloudbaseimaging.com/Weddings/Pre-Wedding-Float-Trip/i-HpkXFMC/0/M/IMG_6765-M.jpg 2013-07-24T14:35:21 < karlp> it's a bit bigger though 2013-07-24T14:35:28 < Laurenceb> ive got a totem pole 2013-07-24T14:35:31 < Laurenceb> in my pants 2013-07-24T14:35:59 < baird> I'll be hiking through the Wollemi sometime this year.. 2013-07-24T14:36:11 < karlp> enjoying the serenity? 2013-07-24T14:36:31 < karlp> looking for exotic pines to sell to nurseries? 2013-07-24T14:36:52 <+Steffanx> 11:40:08] it does get tediou 2013-07-24T14:36:56 <+Steffanx> s 2013-07-24T14:37:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@s83-191-130-156.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T14:45:49 < dongs> probably looking for dongs 2013-07-24T14:47:30 < baird> \_ correct. I was trying to google up the "Cock Rock" that the Leyland Brothers found. 2013-07-24T14:48:12 < baird> Found only female wet t-shirts instead .. (on prime-time Australia 1970s TV..) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D8QZPr403M 2013-07-24T14:48:48 <+Steffanx> Welcome in 1900 2013-07-24T14:50:49 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-24T14:53:02 < dongs> attn Laurenceb http://www.sementanks.com/ 2013-07-24T14:54:12 < Robint91> ಠ_ಠ 2013-07-24T14:54:18 < Robint91> Steffanx, ^ 2013-07-24T14:55:36 < Laurenceb> trolled 2013-07-24T14:56:20 <+Steffanx> Sorry, I gave up on it Robint91. 2013-07-24T14:56:29 < Robint91> Steffanx, okay 2013-07-24T14:56:34 < Robint91> Steffanx, I understand 2013-07-24T14:57:02 <+Steffanx> It's useless to do anything about it, people already found other channels to get help. 2013-07-24T14:57:56 < Robint91> jpa-, do you know other companies that make epaper like screens? 2013-07-24T15:07:33 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-24T15:08:25 < dongs> the origin of :3 2013-07-24T15:08:26 < dongs> :O c=====3 2013-07-24T15:08:26 < dongs> :(====3 2013-07-24T15:08:26 < dongs> :(===3 2013-07-24T15:08:26 < dongs> :(=3 2013-07-24T15:08:28 < dongs> :3 2013-07-24T15:09:14 < Robint91> -_- 2013-07-24T15:09:19 -!- Robint91 [~Robin@dD5776E9E.access.telenet.be] has left ##stm32 ["Ik ga weg"] 2013-07-24T15:09:23 < dongs> what. 2013-07-24T15:09:36 < dongs> ok, im going to slep. looks like im not making any freinds today. 2013-07-24T15:09:44 <+Steffanx> dongs isn't that 'joke' from the period where you were still president of GNAA?! 2013-07-24T15:10:02 <+Steffanx> In other words: OOOOOLD 2013-07-24T15:10:08 < dongs> it very likely is 2013-07-24T15:16:17 -!- Holau [5388f6d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.246.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-24T15:18:00 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T15:27:23 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-24T15:28:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T15:45:54 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-24T15:46:09 < Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/24/war_on_smut_claire_perry_hacked/ 2013-07-24T15:46:11 < Laurenceb> hahah 2013-07-24T15:46:27 < Laurenceb> goatsed 2013-07-24T16:03:46 < Laurenceb> http://hackaday.com/2013/07/24/easy-lcd-control-for-arduino-mega/ 2013-07-24T16:04:01 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:05:53 < baird> wut.. the Mega has something like 88 GPIO. 2013-07-24T16:07:26 < Laurenceb> 88 you say? 2013-07-24T16:08:41 < baird> I'm assuming that's a MEga2560 in the pic. 2013-07-24T16:09:14 < baird> Okay, 54 gpio, 14 analogue, 4 uarts. 2013-07-24T16:10:25 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T16:16:53 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:19:36 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:23:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T16:26:03 < dongs> There’s a couple of things that make this happen. First off, he’s included level converter chips to managed the 3.3V/5V issues. 2013-07-24T16:26:07 < dongs> ha haha 2013-07-24T16:33:13 <+Steffanx> sleep walking dongs? 2013-07-24T16:44:00 -!- G33KatWork [~andy@server.galauner.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:47:06 < dongs> no 2013-07-24T16:47:09 < dongs> i didnt actually go to slepe :) 2013-07-24T16:48:06 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@19.sub-75-233-205.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:48:39 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-24T16:52:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@169.kansas-06-08rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:52:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@169.kansas-06-08rs.mo.dial-access.att.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T16:52:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T16:55:36 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-24T16:59:43 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-24T17:01:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:07:21 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.179] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:10:22 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@26.sub-75-196-121.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:11:36 -!- BJfreeman is now known as Guest24794 2013-07-24T17:11:43 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-24T17:12:27 -!- Guest24794 [~bjfree@19.sub-75-233-205.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-24T17:15:56 < Laurenceb> http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/taylor-swift-meet-greet-competition-2083777 2013-07-24T17:18:54 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-203-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-24T17:19:09 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T17:20:13 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:21:11 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@26.sub-75-196-121.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-24T17:22:34 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-24T17:26:15 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:35:53 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T17:37:00 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:38:15 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-24T17:38:33 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-24T17:38:34 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ is now known as trepidaciousMBR 2013-07-24T17:40:51 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-170-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T17:59:13 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-24T18:04:19 -!- Inteliada_ [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T18:04:47 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T18:08:19 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-24T18:25:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-24T18:35:18 < Tectu> is 0x08000000 the start address of the flash or just the address the bootloader goes looking for code? 2013-07-24T18:36:04 < arnonh> its the start address of the flash 2013-07-24T18:37:58 < Tectu> thanks 2013-07-24T18:38:24 < arnonh> but there is some alilasing to 0x0000000 depending no the boot pins 2013-07-24T18:52:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:01:29 -!- DanteA [~X@217.66.152.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:12:28 -!- DanteA [~X@217.66.152.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 2013-07-24T19:24:46 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:27:41 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:27:41 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T19:27:41 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:27:41 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-24T19:27:41 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:32:06 < emeb> lol - ubuntu-edge indiegogo. > 4.8M now. after the $600 option sold out they started adding more, slightly higher ones. 2013-07-24T19:37:27 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@207.sub-75-196-72.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T19:38:08 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-24T19:39:17 < zyp> they reached 10% pretty fast, but it's been going relatively slow since, I believe 2013-07-24T19:39:31 < zyp> wonder if they'll meet the goal 2013-07-24T19:46:50 < emeb> I'd guess they will, but it will be close. 2013-07-24T19:47:45 < emeb> requires that there are ~40k early adopter mentality folks out there with ~$700 burning a hole in their pockets. 2013-07-24T19:51:35 <+Steffanx> emeb hasn't? 2013-07-24T19:53:23 * emeb is not really an early adopter 2013-07-24T19:54:26 <+Steffanx> wut .. indigogo will receive ~1.2 million for it as wel. Whoa, why i didn't start indigogo? 2013-07-24T19:54:51 <+Steffanx> They can get even more when they don't reach there goal, lol. 2013-07-24T19:56:24 <+Steffanx> unless they made some deal. 2013-07-24T19:56:28 < emeb> wait - they collect $$ if the project doesn't make the goal? 2013-07-24T19:56:59 < emeb> I thought that everything just refunds if the goal isn't reached. 2013-07-24T19:57:21 <+Steffanx> yes, 9% according they their faq 2013-07-24T19:58:05 <+Steffanx> 9% when goal is not reached, 4% if it is reached 2013-07-24T19:58:17 <+Steffanx> *their faq 2013-07-24T20:01:33 < emeb> heh 2013-07-24T20:02:04 < emeb> so, if you're a "funder", if the goal isn't reached you pay 9%. Caveat Emptor. 2013-07-24T20:03:59 < emeb> ah - "Flexible" vs "Fixed". 2013-07-24T20:04:13 < emeb> Flexible will go ahead even if the goal isn't reached. 2013-07-24T20:04:26 < emeb> Fixed doesn't collect if the goal isn't reached. 2013-07-24T20:04:38 < emeb> So what kind is ubuntu-edge? 2013-07-24T20:04:52 < emeb> Fixed. 2013-07-24T20:05:06 < emeb> so no 9% charge if they don't raise 32M 2013-07-24T20:05:11 <+Steffanx> oh :) 2013-07-24T20:07:26 <+Steffanx> i didnt read the entire faq :) 2013-07-24T20:08:01 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T20:09:15 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T20:19:01 < thetooth> http://thetooth.name/images/IMG_8404s.jpg 2013-07-24T20:19:03 < thetooth> (⌐■‿■) 2013-07-24T20:19:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-24T20:19:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T20:21:38 < arnonh> whats to red card ? 2013-07-24T20:21:59 <+Steffanx> open bench logic analyzer ( or whatever the official name is ) 2013-07-24T20:22:15 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T20:23:13 < thetooth> yeah 2013-07-24T20:23:52 < thetooth> making a carputer, just got i2c and other stuff working 2013-07-24T20:24:04 < thetooth> now to order an LCD... 2013-07-24T20:26:02 < arnonh> how is waveshare as a supplier? 2013-07-24T20:26:14 <+Steffanx> people here seem to like it 2013-07-24T20:27:14 <+Steffanx> but i bet dongs has stocks in this company 2013-07-24T20:27:24 < thetooth> arnonh: pretty good, i like there port boards, as you can see they come with the chip and thats about it, the way its meant to be 2013-07-24T20:27:24 <+Steffanx> *shares whatever the correct term is 2013-07-24T20:30:22 < arnonh> thay seem to have nice prices and cheap shipping 2013-07-24T20:43:13 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T20:44:39 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-24T20:44:53 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-24T20:45:44 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@95.93.146.224] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T21:20:23 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-24T21:28:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T21:28:51 < scrts> thetooth -> carputer on stm32? 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:) 2013-07-24T22:53:54 < gxti_> i'm thinking about making one as well, it would probably be a mixture of both stm32 and something fancier. 2013-07-24T22:56:21 < thetooth> scrts: its plenty powerful, plus this is for a datalogger type product, not a PMP :3 2013-07-24T22:58:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-24T23:01:13 < thetooth> btw, has anyone tried DMAing a dual port SRAM with a display on the other end? might be cool, might be race condition 2013-07-24T23:03:34 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T23:05:10 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-24T23:23:52 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-24T23:24:53 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T23:26:58 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T23:37:01 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-24T23:48:31 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-242-065.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-24T23:56:17 < zyp> karlp, I kinda hate bash completion 2013-07-24T23:57:09 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-24T23:57:25 < karlp> this is the first time I recall ever having a problem with it. 2013-07-24T23:57:30 < karlp> no, I lie, 2013-07-24T23:57:38 < karlp> I had something with ssh and git completion things 2013-07-24T23:57:44 < karlp> which was equally confusing. 2013-07-24T23:57:46 * karlp shrugs 2013-07-24T23:57:46 < zyp> I frequently dig along a path to search for something and then go back to change the command I wantto run 2013-07-24T23:58:27 < zyp> or use it to list the contents of various directories to find the directory I want to cd to 2013-07-24T23:58:54 < zyp> which is kind of impossible when tab completion on cd will only give you other directories 2013-07-24T23:59:44 < karlp> if I'm going that far, I normally am doing vi, not cd, so I don't have that problem :) --- Day changed Thu Jul 25 2013 2013-07-25T00:00:55 < zyp> doesn't help if I'm intending to change to a directory and what to list the contents first :p 2013-07-25T00:01:01 < zyp> want* 2013-07-25T00:02:27 < zyp> a guy at work also had a fun problem once 2013-07-25T00:02:56 < zyp> with some git completion stuff, I think it was push 2013-07-25T00:03:36 < zyp> so it was trying to fetch a list of remote branches, which required login, that was configured to password for that remote 2013-07-25T00:04:01 < zyp> so invoking completion triggered a question for a password :p 2013-07-25T00:05:30 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T00:06:02 < Tectu> the .elf contains all the debugging information I need in GDB, right? How do I get all these information when compiling "a normal linux binary" ? 2013-07-25T00:06:35 < Tectu> I'm opening the executable in GDB but I seem to lack all these information 2013-07-25T00:06:38 < zyp> an elf _can_ continue debugging information. 2013-07-25T00:06:43 < Tectu> hmm 2013-07-25T00:06:54 < zyp> you need to tell the compiler to put it in, by default it's usually off 2013-07-25T00:07:23 < zyp> -g is the flag you're interested it (with variants of it specifying different formats of it) 2013-07-25T00:07:29 < karlp> yeah, the git completion has more bugs in it, I'll give it that. 2013-07-25T00:07:31 < zyp> I think -ggdb3 is the shit nowadays 2013-07-25T00:07:34 < Tectu> zyp, I'll take a look at that 2013-07-25T00:07:34 < karlp> but it's rpetty awesome sometimes. 2013-07-25T00:07:48 < karlp> -ggdb3 gives you all macros properly. 2013-07-25T00:08:08 < karlp> at the expense of somewhat bigger .elfs, if you give a shit 2013-07-25T00:08:51 < zyp> karlp, I can see how completing non-file arguments can be neat, (or non-local files) 2013-07-25T00:09:01 < Tectu> zyp, karlp, that was definitely what I was searching for. thanks! 2013-07-25T00:09:22 < karlp> I can scp localfile anyhost_in_known_hosts:/usr/blah/get_tabcompletion here 2013-07-25T00:09:26 < karlp> which is neat, yes. 2013-07-25T00:09:36 < karlp> kinda crap if you're not using ssh keys though :) 2013-07-25T00:09:56 < zyp> but filtering paths for certain types of files/dirs is more of an annoyance than a useful feature to me 2013-07-25T00:10:12 < karlp> yeah, ok, thinking about it, I've had that too, 2013-07-25T00:10:26 < karlp> where tar wouldn't complete somethign that wasn't tar.gz or tar or tar.bz2 2013-07-25T00:10:37 < karlp> and unzip blah.jar wasn't working, and stuff like that. 2013-07-25T00:10:41 * karlp shrugs 2013-07-25T00:10:47 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T00:11:59 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.171] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T00:12:49 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-25T00:14:18 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-25T00:15:44 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T00:18:31 < emeb> so is that completion stuff built into bash or does it communicate with other apps to do it? 2013-07-25T00:19:16 < emeb> I've notice that when I'm doing cvs add it knows how to complete only files that aren't already in cvs 2013-07-25T00:19:56 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T00:32:07 < zyp> it uses some script to look up stuff 2013-07-25T00:33:06 < emeb> so presumably there's a bunch of external code in /usr/share/bash/... somewhere that tells it what to do and can be easily augmented for various situations... 2013-07-25T00:34:42 < zyp> something like that 2013-07-25T00:34:55 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@95.93.146.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-25T00:43:57 -!- iR0b0t1 [4ad10c1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.209.12.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-25T00:47:00 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25T00:48:52 -!- alexn [~alexn@178-27-146-227-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25T00:59:01 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-242-065.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25T01:19:04 < karlp> when in doubt, add more shell scripts... 2013-07-25T01:26:43 < emeb> :P 2013-07-25T01:32:53 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T01:36:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-25T01:46:48 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [] 2013-07-25T01:51:03 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T01:53:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T01:54:33 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T01:54:47 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T02:00:18 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:04:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T02:09:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:11:40 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25T02:12:18 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:13:20 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:17:39 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-25T02:18:36 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:22:21 < Tectu> is there some offsetoff() in newlib? 2013-07-25T02:22:43 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25T02:31:08 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:31:59 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T02:57:29 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@207.sub-75-196-72.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25T03:00:44 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-25T03:02:54 < talsit> hey, question regarding STM32F4, standby & PA00-WKUP 2013-07-25T03:03:10 < dongs> sup chatspace 2013-07-25T03:03:30 < talsit> when i enter standby, if i enable EWUP in PWR->CSR, PA00 is pulled down by the MCU 2013-07-25T03:03:33 < talsit> is that expected 2013-07-25T03:03:56 < talsit> i've tried looking for something that explains that in the docs, but can't find anything 2013-07-25T03:05:52 < ossifrage> Grr, I'm working on a STM32F2 board and for some unexplained reason I'm getting all the transmitted usart data back on the receiver 2013-07-25T03:06:18 < ossifrage> It's not a simple short between rx/tx 2013-07-25T03:06:39 < talsit> ossifrage: isn't there a loopback mode? 2013-07-25T03:06:55 < ossifrage> and if I disconnect the rx pin from my USB to serial adapter the 'loopback' goes away 2013-07-25T03:07:32 < ossifrage> talsit, that could be, but it wouldn't explain why the problem goes away if is disconnect the RX pin 2013-07-25T03:08:12 < talsit> fair enough 2013-07-25T03:08:35 < ossifrage> my only guess it is something with the AF config 2013-07-25T03:29:52 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@207.sub-75-196-72.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T03:30:53 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-25T03:55:43 < talsit> ok, PA0-WKUP is pull-down in EWUP mode :( 2013-07-25T04:03:25 < dongs> lol. 2013-07-25T04:03:51 < dongs> another pcb time? 2013-07-25T04:24:03 < inca_> lwip is so broken 2013-07-25T04:24:35 < inca_> tcp_listen_with_backlog() gets called twice from tcp_listen() and it pukes. 2013-07-25T04:27:19 < inca_> ah 2013-07-25T04:27:35 < inca_> not quite... tcp_bind calls tcp_listen_with_backlog 2013-07-25T04:29:11 * inca_ facepalm 2013-07-25T04:29:47 < inca_> they ASSERT that the pcb->state == CLOSED before they check if it is already "LISTEN" and return out. 2013-07-25T04:29:56 < inca_> a bug in core lwip. how charming. 2013-07-25T04:32:04 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T04:34:36 < dongs> isnt lwip opensores 2013-07-25T04:34:37 < dongs> thats why? 2013-07-25T04:36:09 < inca_> dongs: no, I would say that is a correlation at best, not casaul. There is some very nice open source code out there, it just appears that embedded developers always seem to get the short end of the stick. 2013-07-25T04:36:20 < inca_> causal 2013-07-25T04:49:13 < inca_> dongs: what tcp/ip stack do you use? 2013-07-25T04:51:06 < dongs> i dont need one yet, but if I do, I'll probaly just use RTX/TCP shit from keil :) 2013-07-25T04:51:12 < dongs> i presume it would work better than opensauce stuff. 2013-07-25T04:51:26 < dongs> their USB stack proved to be 100% less headache than opensores version 2013-07-25T04:55:44 < inca_> the MCU stuff in general seems like a waste of time compared to the A-class ARM processors 2013-07-25T04:57:23 < dongs> if you need to run lunix you might as well just run lunix 2013-07-25T04:57:35 < dongs> and deal with all the relevant a ids 2013-07-25T04:58:03 < inca_> nobody needs to run lunix, it's just that linux is really the only thing which just works in a sane amount of development time 2013-07-25T04:59:29 < inca_> all right, so RAW api does not work for TCP... great! 2013-07-25T05:02:16 < inca_> what would cause lwip device to not return a ping, aside from the usual lack of #defines to enable ICMP? 2013-07-25T05:21:23 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-25T05:26:41 < dongs> glad I didnt paypal jewbunto edge 2013-07-25T05:26:51 < dongs> they saw the money start dropping as soon as the cheap version sold out 2013-07-25T05:26:56 < dongs> so they added more cheaper stuff 2013-07-25T05:33:33 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T05:36:18 < emeb> yep 2013-07-25T05:36:28 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T05:36:58 < jef79m> man, over 2000 have pledged $20 for nothing?? 2013-07-25T05:37:08 < emeb> yeah - wtf? 2013-07-25T05:37:23 < emeb> "warm feeling" 2013-07-25T05:37:37 < talsit> how do you do a software reset on stm32f4? 2013-07-25T05:47:35 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-25T06:09:49 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.231] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T06:13:13 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-25T06:30:43 < emeb> dongs: why does keil generate such huge binaries? 2013-07-25T06:32:35 < R2COM> he will say "because your code is trash" 2013-07-25T06:33:50 < emeb> :) 2013-07-25T06:34:17 < emeb> trying to use the keil free version to compile some code for an F303. 2013-07-25T06:34:27 < emeb> GCC compiles down to ~15k 2013-07-25T06:34:42 < emeb> Keil refuses because it says image size is 39k. 2013-07-25T06:34:49 < inca_> emeb: did you enable lto and all that in keil? 2013-07-25T06:34:52 < emeb> (limit is 32k) 2013-07-25T06:35:01 < inca_> emeb: also, keil wants you to blow that limit ;) 2013-07-25T06:35:10 < emeb> well duh. 2013-07-25T06:35:32 < inca_> but they do have some good size optimizations that are worth trying... though the options are esoteric 2013-07-25T06:37:02 < emeb> looking for "lto and all that" 2013-07-25T06:37:20 < emeb> so far just enabled the C/C++ optimizer to -O3 2013-07-25T06:38:52 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@207.sub-75-196-72.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: had a good time] 2013-07-25T06:39:02 < inca_> -O3 will make it bigger, I think 2013-07-25T06:39:25 < inca_> not sure if their compiler supports this, but -Os might be what you are looking for on that level 2013-07-25T06:39:46 < inca_> it's been a while since I hacked around with it 2013-07-25T06:40:20 < inca_> I always wanted to see if gcc's linker could link the keil object files... thereby getting around the 32 kb limit 2013-07-25T06:40:40 < inca_> the instructions to get gcc to work in keil are prohibitively complicated 2013-07-25T06:40:50 < inca_> eclipse is easier 2013-07-25T06:40:55 * inca_ shivers 2013-07-25T06:40:57 < emeb> optimizations are selected from a dropdown - no -Os (that's a GCC option) 2013-07-25T06:41:00 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2013-07-25T06:41:22 < dongs> sup 2013-07-25T06:41:25 < emeb> no lto on the linker tab and -lto unrecognized 2013-07-25T06:41:53 < inca> I remember it's an actual checkbox in one of the first three tabs on the left 2013-07-25T06:41:53 < dongs> um 2013-07-25T06:41:55 < emeb> dongs: trying out keil (free version) - refuses to generate a binary cuz it's bigger than the limit 2013-07-25T06:42:05 < dongs> my keil *debug* builds are generally smaller than gcc "optimized" builds. 2013-07-25T06:42:25 < dongs> so not sure whats going on there 2013-07-25T06:42:31 < R2COM> theres little secret, maybe you did not pay for that emeb? 2013-07-25T06:42:36 < R2COM> and thats why its like that 2013-07-25T06:43:04 < emeb> R2COM: starting to suspect that the free version bloats code to prevent you using it for anything more than toys. 2013-07-25T06:43:14 < dongs> huh no 2013-07-25T06:43:23 < dongs> really tho, just build with O2 i guess 2013-07-25T06:43:28 < dongs> but 32k is plenty for a lot of shit 2013-07-25T06:43:30 < dongs> you must be doing something wrong 2013-07-25T06:43:31 < emeb> dongs: tried that 2013-07-25T06:43:38 < dongs> oh 2013-07-25T06:43:39 < dongs> and use microlib 2013-07-25T06:43:42 < dongs> checked that? 2013-07-25T06:43:45 < emeb> ya prolly. total n00b 2013-07-25T06:43:59 < dongs> that should take out a lot of shit 2013-07-25T06:44:42 < emeb> microlib made almost no difference - still 39k 2013-07-25T06:44:56 < inca> emeb: Link-Time Code Generation? 2013-07-25T06:46:54 < emeb> inca: not seeing anything like that 2013-07-25T06:47:04 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-25T06:47:27 < inca> it's definitely there. it was the single biggest difference in code sizes that I saw when using keil 2013-07-25T06:47:44 < inca> dongs: where is the LTO checkbox? 2013-07-25T06:49:44 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T06:49:46 < dongs> 1st page 2013-07-25T06:49:49 < dongs> right next to microlib 2013-07-25T06:50:03 < dongs> cross-module optimization 2013-07-25T06:50:26 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-25T06:50:28 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.67.231] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 2013-07-25T06:50:35 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T06:50:49 < emeb> ya - tried that. made no difference. 2013-07-25T06:51:46 < dongs> i can only conclude emeb code sucks 2013-07-25T06:52:07 < emeb> :) 2013-07-25T06:52:19 < emeb> oddly enough, GCC gets it down to 15k 2013-07-25T06:52:28 < dongs> um, no way. 2013-07-25T06:52:35 < emeb> yes way 2013-07-25T06:52:37 < dongs> then you're definitely doing something wrong. 2013-07-25T06:53:07 < emeb> no doubt. 2013-07-25T06:54:39 < emeb> err - correction. GCC compiles to 10k. 2013-07-25T06:56:30 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T06:56:34 < dongs> super cool story bro 2013-07-25T06:59:06 < emeb> ah well - maybe I'll zip up this project and send to my pal who's got the full version. 2013-07-25T06:59:12 < emeb> see if he can make sense of it. 2013-07-25T06:59:53 < R2COM> just send it to dongs :) 2013-07-25T07:00:04 < dongs> im not his pal 2013-07-25T07:10:44 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T07:13:41 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T07:22:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25T07:26:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T07:28:09 < dongs> plus he wouldnt give me his sores anyway. 2013-07-25T07:31:43 < emeb_mac> what? sure I would. 2013-07-25T07:31:50 < emeb_mac> nothing special about it. 2013-07-25T07:32:19 < emeb_mac> just some test code to get I2S running on an F303. 2013-07-25T07:32:30 < dongs> there's no fucking way it builds to 39k then 2013-07-25T07:32:38 < dongs> ive got a f3disco 2013-07-25T07:32:40 < dongs> go ahead. 2013-07-25T07:32:51 < emeb_mac> where to dump the zipfile? 2013-07-25T07:33:04 < dongs> dont you use dropcocks or some other cloudy trash? 2013-07-25T07:33:09 < dongs> or MICROSOFT LIVE DRIVE 2013-07-25T07:34:00 < emeb_mac> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/f303_keil.zip 2013-07-25T07:35:13 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T07:39:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-25T07:49:45 -!- DanteA [~X@host-124-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T07:56:52 -!- Count_Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T07:59:17 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-25T08:22:00 < jpa-> bah.. difficult to decide, whether to use stupid USB COM port emulation or vendor specific class 2013-07-25T08:22:29 < jpa-> from all purely technical standpoints, vendor specific class would be better.. but i'm afraid that will mean a hassle with drivers 2013-07-25T08:23:02 < emeb_mac> drivers are always a hassle 2013-07-25T08:23:20 < jpa-> that is true also 2013-07-25T08:23:49 < jpa-> especially as many of our target systems are not connected to internet, so even having ST's VCP drivers in windows update doesn't really help 2013-07-25T08:24:01 < dongs> oh 2013-07-25T08:24:03 < dongs> lets look 2013-07-25T08:24:29 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-25T08:25:04 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T08:25:05 * emeb_mac holds bref 2013-07-25T08:25:59 < dongs> Program Size: Code=7686 RO-data=446 RW-data=72 ZI-data=1712 2013-07-25T08:26:01 < dongs> ??? 2013-07-25T08:26:06 < dongs> where the fuck do you get 39k 2013-07-25T08:27:25 < emeb_mac> when I compile it says the binary is 39k 2013-07-25T08:27:34 < emeb_mac> and refuses to build further 2013-07-25T08:27:39 < dongs> text data bss dec hex filename 2013-07-25T08:27:40 < dongs> 8132 72 1712 9916 26bc f303_keil.axf 2013-07-25T08:27:41 < emeb_mac> (due to size limit) 2013-07-25T08:28:08 < dongs> how big was the gcc-generated shite? 2013-07-25T08:28:17 < emeb_mac> so presumably it bases the go/nogo decision on the size prior to optimization. 2013-07-25T08:28:28 < emeb_mac> gcc generated 10kB 2013-07-25T08:28:47 < dongs> Program Size: Code=22216 RO-data=16828 RW-data=92 ZI-data=1708 2013-07-25T08:28:50 < dongs> this is -O0 2013-07-25T08:28:51 < dongs> no LTO 2013-07-25T08:28:58 < dongs> still nowhere near 32k 2013-07-25T08:29:03 < emeb_mac> weird 2013-07-25T08:29:04 < dongs> what shitty version of keil are you using? 2013-07-25T08:29:08 < dongs> did you dowenload latest?? 2013-07-25T08:29:11 < dongs> 4.5x or wahtever 2013-07-25T08:29:19 < dongs> er 4.7x seems latest 2013-07-25T08:29:21 < emeb_mac> grabbed it a couple weeks ago 2013-07-25T08:29:26 < dongs> right 2013-07-25T08:29:27 < dongs> should be recent 2013-07-25T08:29:33 < dongs> i have no idea?? 2013-07-25T08:29:40 < dongs> i did nothing to your proj 2013-07-25T08:29:45 < dongs> default settings were O3 and LTO 2013-07-25T08:29:48 < dongs> that was the 9k stuff 2013-07-25T08:29:50 < dongs> then I turend both off 2013-07-25T08:29:53 < emeb_mac> thanks for checking 2013-07-25T08:29:53 < dongs> O0 and no lto 2013-07-25T08:30:19 < emeb_mac> sounds like the free version deliberately bloats the code 2013-07-25T08:30:29 < dongs> not likely 2013-07-25T08:30:35 < dongs> why would tehy ruin theirt own compiler 2013-07-25T08:30:41 < emeb_mac> or doesn't allow the optimizations 2013-07-25T08:30:52 < dongs> does -O0 and -O3 look like it genrates different code? 2013-07-25T08:30:55 < dongs> have you looedd? 2013-07-25T08:30:56 < dongs> looked 2013-07-25T08:31:00 -!- Count_Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25T08:31:18 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T08:31:55 < emeb_mac> ya 2013-07-25T08:32:10 < emeb_mac> -O0 was about 44k, -O3 was 39k 2013-07-25T08:32:13 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T08:32:17 < dongs> hurf 2013-07-25T08:32:29 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T08:32:52 -!- Lt_Lemming [Lt_Lemming@203.219.229.140] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T08:33:00 < Lt_Lemming> orsum 2013-07-25T08:33:20 < Lt_Lemming> working on a new board using an STM32F103 and wondering if someone could help me answer some questions? 2013-07-25T08:34:11 < dongs> try asking them 2013-07-25T08:34:29 -!- DanteA [~X@host-124-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-25T08:34:42 < talsit> this is my current stm32f103 board: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyhb23epo7iot2u/2013-07-22%2019.15.21.jpg 2013-07-25T08:34:46 < emeb_mac> dongs: turning on lto made no difference for me - I bet that they don't do lto until after checking the bin size vs limits. 2013-07-25T08:34:57 < dongs> yes 2013-07-25T08:35:00 < dongs> linker does ltoo 2013-07-25T08:35:01 < dongs> obviousyt 2013-07-25T08:35:05 < talsit> dongs, btw, i'm liking the 103, except that the AF/remaping stuff is annoying 2013-07-25T08:35:16 < dongs> talsit: you shouldnt have used any remap shit at all 2013-07-25T08:35:19 < dongs> you fucked up pinout. 2013-07-25T08:35:23 < talsit> how? 2013-07-25T08:35:27 < dongs> i dont know 2013-07-25T08:35:37 < dongs> 99% of cases remap is unncesasry on F103 2013-07-25T08:36:13 < talsit> how do you get PA0-WKUP & TIM2_CH1 at the same time? 2013-07-25T08:37:06 < dongs> you dont, but at least one that looks remappable to useless jTAG pin 2013-07-25T08:40:45 < Lt_Lemming> with the serial bootloader that is included on the chips, does that emulate a serial port over USB or is it just USART via another set of pins? 2013-07-25T08:41:48 < dongs> usart on pa9/10 2013-07-25T08:41:50 < dongs> on F103. 2013-07-25T08:41:54 < Lt_Lemming> kk 2013-07-25T08:41:57 < Lt_Lemming> thanks 2013-07-25T08:41:58 < dongs> if you want usb bootloader tyou ahve to write it yourself. 2013-07-25T08:42:16 < Lt_Lemming> planning on using the maple bootloader 2013-07-25T08:42:29 < jpa-> on stm32f4, you do have an usb bootloader, though 2013-07-25T08:42:31 < Lt_Lemming> just wasn't sure about how to get it on there 2013-07-25T08:42:57 < Lt_Lemming> yeah, using the F103 because I don't need quite that much power, F103 is probably overkill already 2013-07-25T08:43:12 < Lt_Lemming> http://i.imgur.com/JyvtWC0.jpg <--- the board I am working on 2013-07-25T08:46:11 < dongs> cool routing and not eagle, impresive. 2013-07-25T08:46:20 < Lt_Lemming> thanks 2013-07-25T08:46:25 < dongs> though i'd probably drive all those leds with one driver and a 3:8 decoder or seomthin.. 2013-07-25T08:47:19 < Lt_Lemming> those drivers are pretty damn awesome, especially because they do current limitng 2013-07-25T08:47:43 -!- DanteA [~X@host-60-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T08:48:05 < dongs> is that hte tlc59wahtever thing? 2013-07-25T08:48:25 < Lt_Lemming> TLC5947 2013-07-25T08:49:22 < dongs> right. i think i used that for something 2013-07-25T08:49:23 < dongs> but still 2013-07-25T08:49:32 < Lt_Lemming> 24 channels, 12 bits, 30mA per channel, 30MHz data rate for single chip, 15MHz when chained, basically acts like a giant shift register 2013-07-25T08:49:41 < dongs> single driver and 1/4 duty drive or something and y ou can get rid of 2 drivers 2013-07-25T08:50:05 < Lt_Lemming> meh, it's done 2013-07-25T08:50:08 < dongs> rightr 2013-07-25T08:50:20 < Lt_Lemming> and I have a whole stack of those chips spare from another project 2013-07-25T08:50:35 < dongs> at least its not a tarduino 2013-07-25T08:50:42 < dongs> and not eagle, so youre winning already. 2013-07-25T08:50:50 < Lt_Lemming> heh 2013-07-25T08:50:57 < Lt_Lemming> trying to get away from AVR's 2013-07-25T08:50:59 < dongs> at this point it doesnt even have to work 2013-07-25T08:51:03 < dongs> youre already ahead. 2013-07-25T08:51:06 < Lt_Lemming> mainly because ARM chips are often cheaper! 2013-07-25T08:51:19 < dongs> they are 2013-07-25T08:51:25 < dongs> not often, always 2013-07-25T08:52:27 < Lt_Lemming> depends a lot on the chip you are looking at 2013-07-25T08:52:30 < Lt_Lemming> and where you are looking 2013-07-25T08:54:57 < dongs> I buy my DIP avrs from sparkfun like a fucking boss 2013-07-25T08:55:32 < Lt_Lemming> lol 2013-07-25T08:57:01 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T08:57:26 < emeb_mac> pay extra for the ones with the arduino bootloader pre-flashed. 2013-07-25T08:58:31 < dongs> that waas my point 2013-07-25T09:00:06 < dongs> pcbaing all fucking day today with a 1hr swimming break 2013-07-25T09:00:08 < dongs> fml 2013-07-25T09:02:24 < emeb_mac> could be worse 2013-07-25T09:03:07 < Lt_Lemming> could be swimming all fucking day with a 1hr pcbaing break 2013-07-25T09:03:10 < dongs> ya first world problems here 2013-07-25T09:03:17 < Lt_Lemming> fairly certain you'd be more tired after that :-P 2013-07-25T09:03:37 < emeb_mac> but well exercised. pruney too. 2013-07-25T09:04:29 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200760.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T09:04:30 < dongs> oh emeb 2013-07-25T09:04:36 < dongs> that cmsis dsp trash you included 2013-07-25T09:04:39 < dongs> does your sample code use it? 2013-07-25T09:04:48 < dongs> (i didnt evne look at it) 2013-07-25T09:04:58 < dongs> ST bundles prebuilt ARM libs for that stuff 2013-07-25T09:05:04 < dongs> built I presume with hax0r optimizations 2013-07-25T09:05:06 < dongs> that you should link to 2013-07-25T09:05:09 < dongs> instead of including dsp sores yourself 2013-07-25T09:06:15 < emeb_mac> dongs: I'll try that 2013-07-25T09:06:32 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-25T09:06:35 < dongs> and i shouldtn say ST includes it 2013-07-25T09:06:36 < emeb_mac> there's also some const table data I don't need that can be discarded. 2013-07-25T09:06:39 < dongs> since its in cmsis 2013-07-25T09:06:44 < dongs> its ARms stuff i guess 2013-07-25T09:06:48 < emeb_mac> ya 2013-07-25T09:11:04 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-236-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T09:15:43 -!- Inteliada [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-25T09:23:53 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200055.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T09:23:53 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200055.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-25T09:23:53 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T09:27:25 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200760.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-25T09:29:02 -!- intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T09:29:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T09:41:30 -!- DanteA [~X@host-60-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T09:43:40 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-236-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-25T10:00:14 -!- DanteA [~X@host-188-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T10:06:44 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T10:06:44 -!- jon1012 [~jon@pha75-14-88-162-134-157.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-25T10:06:44 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T10:11:17 -!- DanteA [~X@host-188-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25T10:13:06 -!- tp [~tp@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T10:15:57 < R2COM> emeb_mac: maybe you should then ask Keil representatives about that 2013-07-25T10:16:03 < R2COM> or post it on their forum 2013-07-25T10:16:48 < emeb_mac> R2COM: ya maybe. 2013-07-25T10:17:23 < emeb_mac> they'll prolly just say "don't do that" 2013-07-25T10:17:40 < R2COM> dongs: you should get a PhD. and everyone here on this chan will call you Dr.Dongs 2013-07-25T10:18:53 < dongs> or you ca n just call me dr dongs anyway. 2013-07-25T10:19:09 < R2COM> that works 2013-07-25T10:19:30 -!- DanteA [~X@host-252-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T10:22:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-25T10:38:15 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-25T10:42:25 < tp> hi all, nice TNT_Example .... 2013-07-25T10:42:50 < tp> I went thru a few before getting a blinky going on a STMF4 2013-07-25T10:45:43 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T11:04:47 < dongs> http://www.coocox.org/blog/?p=403 2013-07-25T11:04:59 -!- ttmrichter [~ttmrichte@31.25.101.133] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:05:10 < dongs> mind: blown 2013-07-25T11:11:19 < talsit> when are you going to come out of the closet and say you actually like all the arduino/rpi/oss stuff? 2013-07-25T11:12:42 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T11:15:15 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:17:24 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:18:31 -!- whatnick [~Administr@219.90.129.230] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:18:42 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25T11:20:24 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:29:24 < whatnick> Hi all 2013-07-25T11:29:55 < dongs> sup bloggers 2013-07-25T11:39:15 < whatnick> working on some stm32 code which is relocated to 8006000 and cant get my build to run :( what are obvious gotchas ? 2013-07-25T11:39:46 < whatnick> using gnu toolchain (with CS linker files) 2013-07-25T11:39:47 < zyp> how did you do the relocation? 2013-07-25T11:40:08 < talsit> do you have anything to jump to 8006000? 2013-07-25T11:40:24 < whatnick> rom (rx) : ORIGIN = 0x08006000, LENGTH = 128K - 0x6000 2013-07-25T11:40:34 < whatnick> yep there is a bootloader that jumps there 2013-07-25T11:40:57 < whatnick> I have a working previous version of the firmware .. 2013-07-25T11:41:01 < dongs> did you move your vectors to there? 2013-07-25T11:41:12 < dongs> in relocated code 2013-07-25T11:41:58 < whatnick> #define VECT_TAB_OFFSET 0x6000 2013-07-25T11:43:07 < whatnick> have an F10x md board .. 2013-07-25T11:43:13 < dongs> should be working 2013-07-25T11:43:20 < dongs> this is from system_f103.c or wahtever? 2013-07-25T11:43:34 < dongs> is it actually getting set in SCB->VTOR? 2013-07-25T11:43:44 < whatnick> system_stm32f10x.c 2013-07-25T11:44:05 < whatnick> have this board -> http://www.onetalent-gnss.com/ideas/wireless/rappen10logwi and vendors source 2013-07-25T11:44:21 < whatnick> checking setting 2013-07-25T11:44:49 < dongs> F102? 2013-07-25T11:44:50 < dongs> ew. 2013-07-25T11:45:00 < whatnick> SCB->VTOR = FLASH_BASE | VECT_TAB_OFFSET; 2013-07-25T11:45:14 < dongs> i suspect its working then 2013-07-25T11:45:25 < dongs> blink some leds and try debugging 2013-07-25T11:45:30 < dongs> check to make sure BL actually jumps to there 2013-07-25T11:45:58 < dongs> fire up a led from bootloader and try killing it early on in startup in user app 2013-07-25T11:47:03 < whatnick> I have been breaking it with my code and reflashing previous firmware at 8006000 and prev firmware runs ... so jump is taking place .. 2013-07-25T11:47:18 < dongs> ok 2013-07-25T11:47:31 < whatnick> may be I will write a push button code and start from scratch .. meh 2013-07-25T11:48:01 < whatnick> should have been simple recompile and run but is not ... 2013-07-25T11:49:54 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25T11:50:18 < whatnick> put back some debug LED code if (LED_CLK1) RCC_APB1PeriphClockCmd(LED_CLK1, ENABLE); 2013-07-25T11:50:18 < whatnick> if (LED_CLK2) RCC_APB2PeriphClockCmd(LED_CLK2, ENABLE); 2013-07-25T11:50:19 < whatnick> GPIO_InitStructure.GPIO_Pin = LED1_PIN | LED2_PIN; 2013-07-25T11:50:19 < whatnick> GPIO_InitStructure.GPIO_Mode = GPIO_Mode_Out_PP; 2013-07-25T11:50:19 < whatnick> GPIO_Init(LED_GPIO, &GPIO_InitStructure); 2013-07-25T11:50:34 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:51:46 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T11:54:27 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-25T11:59:50 < baird> Postie Trip III: The Search for Croc (..well it is going to Western Australia) starts this Monday. 2013-07-25T12:07:05 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-172-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T12:07:11 < whatnick> How would i debug the jumping application ? 2013-07-25T12:07:26 < whatnick> I am used to OpenOCD + GDB via eclipse 2013-07-25T12:11:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T12:29:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T12:30:32 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-25T12:31:53 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@104.67.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T12:36:49 < tp> whatnick: maybe you can use jtag or swd and gdb to debug it ? 2013-07-25T12:37:13 < whatnick> running swd + openocd and gdb 2013-07-25T12:37:45 < whatnick> flashing debug version is fine .. need to figure out how to step into it past the bootloader 2013-07-25T12:37:56 < whatnick> code is located at 6000 offset 2013-07-25T12:41:52 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T12:51:32 < dongs> eh 2013-07-25T12:51:39 < dongs> gxti_: apparently ther'es NEO6T 2013-07-25T12:52:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T12:55:26 < dongs> https://youtube.com/watch?v=HJvraxv5pTI 2013-07-25T12:55:28 < dongs> this is how you make money 2013-07-25T13:00:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T13:00:16 < Tectu> I wonder if you're actually allowed to do this kind of advertisement on youtube 2013-07-25T13:00:23 < dongs> ? 2013-07-25T13:01:45 < dongs> haha 2013-07-25T13:01:49 < dongs> he charges 300bucks 2013-07-25T13:01:52 < dongs> to set that shit up 2013-07-25T13:34:58 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.221.200] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T14:03:55 -!- tp [~tp@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Up up and away!] 2013-07-25T14:06:08 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-25T14:06:36 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-172-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: ] 2013-07-25T14:07:00 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-172-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T14:14:37 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T14:17:12 -!- tp [~tp@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T14:25:18 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T14:34:28 < Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/25/skyballs/ 2013-07-25T14:36:12 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/133-8701-311/J652-ND/396595 why the fuck is this $8 2013-07-25T14:38:00 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T14:38:32 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25T14:39:20 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T14:43:26 < Laurenceb> cuz gold 2013-07-25T14:56:29 < dongs> jewgold?? 2013-07-25T15:00:00 -!- tp [~tp@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Up up and away!] 2013-07-25T15:06:47 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-25T15:15:12 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-25T15:17:56 < qyx_> dongs: why mcx? 2013-07-25T15:20:18 < dongs> qyx, low profile 2013-07-25T15:20:32 < dongs> i could use those board mount F connectors.. 2013-07-25T15:20:34 < dongs> but .. 2013-07-25T15:22:09 < dongs> like 2013-07-25T15:22:11 < dongs> inline stuff 2013-07-25T15:23:22 < dongs> http://www.shintake.co.jp/parts/imgs/out/105-01.gif 2013-07-25T15:23:23 < dongs> H 2013-07-25T15:23:24 < dongs> hM 2013-07-25T15:23:32 < Laurenceb> µFL FTW 2013-07-25T15:23:37 < dongs> haha get out 2013-07-25T15:23:50 < dongs> µFL more like µ-fail 2013-07-25T15:24:16 < dongs> anyway that side shit wont work 2013-07-25T15:24:22 < dongs> i only have 2mm clearance on teh bottom of pcb 2013-07-25T15:26:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T15:26:26 < qyx_> dongs: search 73415-1104 on farnell 2013-07-25T15:26:40 < qyx_> i can't find it anywhere else :S 2013-07-25T15:26:52 < dongs> what the acutal fuck 2013-07-25T15:26:55 < dongs> SMT mcx? 2013-07-25T15:27:00 < qyx_> yep 2013-07-25T15:27:02 < dongs> you're setting yourself up for major fail 2013-07-25T15:27:02 < qyx_> seems so 2013-07-25T15:27:20 < dongs> there's no way reflow will heat it enough 2013-07-25T15:27:27 < dongs> the edges will never properly flow 2013-07-25T15:27:40 < qyx_> ok :S 2013-07-25T15:27:46 < dongs> just use throughhole mcx 2013-07-25T15:27:52 < dongs> all footprints are same 2013-07-25T15:27:57 < dongs> 200mil spacing/100mil to center 2013-07-25T15:42:22 * jpa- wonders whether to use bulk or interrupt endpoint in a custom usb protocol 2013-07-25T15:43:18 < jpa-> nice thing about interrupt is that it is already packetized, so i don't need to add extra packet headers 2013-07-25T15:44:26 < jpa-> this is to implement an API to control a device.. like "start measurement X" or "get result Y".. i think i'll use protobuf for the higher level protocol 2013-07-25T15:50:30 < dongs> silly 2013-07-25T15:50:31 < dongs> use HID 2013-07-25T15:51:44 < jpa-> it does not interface with a human 2013-07-25T15:51:57 < jpa-> and besides, HID is just interrupt transfers with crap 2013-07-25T15:52:02 < jpa-> i don't need the part with crap 2013-07-25T15:52:41 < dongs> enjoy writing drivers for it then 2013-07-25T15:52:45 < dongs> or only supporting worthless operating systems 2013-07-25T15:53:02 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-25T15:53:11 < Laurenceb> into BDSM or something 2013-07-25T15:53:19 < jpa-> dongs: libusb should work 2013-07-25T15:53:19 < Laurenceb> why not use an existing protocol 2013-07-25T15:53:24 < dongs> rofl, libusb 2013-07-25T15:53:28 < jpa-> dongs: if it doesn't, i'll just use ACM 2013-07-25T15:53:30 < dongs> jpa, libusb does NOT work on windows. 2013-07-25T15:53:38 < jpa-> we'll see.. it should 2013-07-25T15:53:44 < Laurenceb> noone used windoze 2013-07-25T15:53:52 < dongs> ^ dream on 2013-07-25T15:54:06 < jpa-> HID doesn't work on mac 2013-07-25T15:54:28 < Laurenceb> rofl 2013-07-25T15:56:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-181230.eduroam.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T16:02:05 < zyp> 14:54:06 < jpa-> HID doesn't work on mac 2013-07-25T16:02:08 < zyp> what part of it? 2013-07-25T16:02:32 < zyp> 14:43:18 < jpa-> nice thing about interrupt is that it is already packetized, so i don't need to add extra packet headers 2013-07-25T16:02:35 < zyp> so is bulk 2013-07-25T16:03:46 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-25T16:03:52 < Laurenceb> yeah wtf 2013-07-25T16:03:54 < dongs> i wasnt sure what the fuck he meant by that either 2013-07-25T16:12:52 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@213.sub-75-196-75.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T16:13:40 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-25T16:14:53 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T16:18:14 < jpa-> zyp: hmm yeah.. i was thinking too much about ACM:/ 2013-07-25T16:20:07 < zyp> yes, ACM is ignoring transfer boundaries 2013-07-25T16:21:21 < zyp> libusb on windows works fine, provided the winusb driver gets loaded for the device you want to use 2013-07-25T16:22:08 < zyp> and on windows 8 there should be some mechanism where you can add some descriptors to tell windows that you are a «winusb device» 2013-07-25T16:24:09 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2013-07-25T16:24:14 < Laurenceb> http://www.maxim.com/funny/chinas-first-and-hopefully-last-wankathon 2013-07-25T16:30:37 < dongs> > December 4, 2012 2013-07-25T16:31:00 <+Steffanx> You like to watch wanking men Laurenceb .. 2013-07-25T16:31:10 < dongs> who doesnt 2013-07-25T16:36:02 <+Steffanx> Only when japanese. 2013-07-25T16:36:25 < jpa-> i was thinking about using libwdi for the driver installation 2013-07-25T16:36:54 < dongs> ? 2013-07-25T16:37:04 < jpa-> zyp: anyway, any tips about choosing between interrupt vs. bulk? 2013-07-25T16:37:15 < dongs> just depends what youre sending 2013-07-25T16:37:26 < zyp> ^ 2013-07-25T16:38:15 < jpa-> well some of the stuff is realtime measurement data, so i guess interrupt would make sense 2013-07-25T16:38:30 < jpa-> but is there some downside to interrupt transfers, besides the limited packet size? 2013-07-25T16:38:59 < zyp> interrupt for low-bandwidth low-latency stuff, isochronous for fixed bandwidth low-latency stuff, bulk for best-effort delivery 2013-07-25T16:39:02 < dongs> how would "interrupt" make sense 2013-07-25T16:39:11 < dongs> your device cant "interrupt" the host anyway 2013-07-25T16:39:20 < dongs> so it'll be polling just same as you would be w/bulk 2013-07-25T16:39:24 < jpa-> dongs: well the guaranteed bandwidth & low latency part 2013-07-25T16:39:30 < zyp> realtime measurement data sounds like isochronous 2013-07-25T16:39:51 < jpa-> zyp: but i don't want to lose any samples 2013-07-25T16:40:06 < jpa-> (and the datarate will be only about 20kB/s, so there should be no need to lose samples either..) 2013-07-25T16:40:16 < zyp> ok, then bulk 2013-07-25T16:40:50 < jpa-> why? 2013-07-25T16:41:46 < zyp> because unless latency is a concern, a bulk pipe with buffering and flow control is the most reliable transport 2013-07-25T16:43:28 < jpa-> hmm.. low latency would be nice 2013-07-25T16:45:02 < zyp> low latency is usually the opposite of flow control 2013-07-25T16:45:23 < zyp> because low latency means «in case shit happens, drop packets to keep up» 2013-07-25T16:45:44 < jpa-> well interrupt transfers go ahead bulk in priority, right? 2013-07-25T16:45:49 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-25T16:46:12 < zyp> I'm not sure about all the semantics around interrupt transfers 2013-07-25T16:47:02 < zyp> so I don't know what happens if an interrupt transfer fails 2013-07-25T16:47:54 < jpa-> usb in a nutshell says that it will retry on next period 2013-07-25T16:48:13 < zyp> right, that's what I suspected 2013-07-25T16:48:27 < zyp> because an interrupt pipe only gets one transfer opportunity per frame 2013-07-25T16:48:49 < jpa-> does that also mean max 1 packet per frame? 2013-07-25T16:48:51 < zyp> that's why it's low bandwidth 2013-07-25T16:48:53 < zyp> yes 2013-07-25T16:49:04 < jpa-> ok, well then that kind of solves the issue 2013-07-25T16:52:22 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-25T16:52:23 < Laurenceb> WWDG_IRQHandler () at lib/CMSIS_CM3/startup/gcc/startup_stm32f10x_md.s:108 2013-07-25T16:52:24 < Laurenceb> #1 2013-07-25T16:52:24 < Laurenceb> #2 0x080107e4 in memcmp () 2013-07-25T16:52:35 < Laurenceb> why is memcmp causing that?! 2013-07-25T16:52:39 < jpa-> Laurenceb: you enabled window watchdog? 2013-07-25T16:52:43 < Laurenceb> nope 2013-07-25T16:52:50 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T16:54:02 < Laurenceb> oh i see it 2013-07-25T16:54:09 < Laurenceb> its an unhandles interrupt 2013-07-25T16:54:32 < Laurenceb> how do i find out which interrupt triggered? 2013-07-25T16:54:35 < jpa-> crappy open sores debugger 2013-07-25T16:54:43 < jpa-> check the active exception register thingy 2013-07-25T16:55:09 < Laurenceb> which one? 2013-07-25T16:55:14 < Laurenceb> link reg? 2013-07-25T16:55:23 < jpa-> nah 2013-07-25T16:55:43 < jpa-> ICSR 2013-07-25T16:56:05 < Laurenceb> cpsr 0xa1000003 2013-07-25T16:56:09 < Laurenceb> that one? 2013-07-25T16:57:13 < karlp> dude, the vecstate thing from zippe that you have in one of your own repos... 2013-07-25T16:57:36 < Laurenceb> oh 2013-07-25T16:57:42 < jpa-> scb icsr 2013-07-25T16:58:48 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-25T16:58:50 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T16:58:55 < Laurenceb> ill try and get the vecstate thingy runnign 2013-07-25T16:59:25 < Laurenceb> prob some kind of memory error... 2013-07-25T17:01:03 < karlp> source vecstate.blah, vecstate, it's pretty easy touse... 2013-07-25T17:03:00 < Laurenceb> how do i include one gdb macro file from another? 2013-07-25T17:04:33 < Laurenceb> using source? 2013-07-25T17:07:10 < dongs> hum 2013-07-25T17:07:13 < Laurenceb> HardFault: forced due to escalated or disabled configurable fault (see below) 2013-07-25T17:07:13 < Laurenceb> BusFault: (precise) accessing 0xffffbfd4 2013-07-25T17:07:15 < Laurenceb> aha 2013-07-25T17:07:44 < Laurenceb> memcpy was fed trash 2013-07-25T17:07:48 < Laurenceb> presumably... 2013-07-25T17:08:14 < Laurenceb> yup it was :P 2013-07-25T17:08:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T17:10:33 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T17:25:49 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-172-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-25T17:28:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-25T17:33:26 -!- Inteliada [~spheric@host-249-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T17:37:57 -!- Inteliada [~spheric@host-249-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-25T17:41:58 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25T17:42:23 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-11-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T17:43:46 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIqQB6EQaMk 2013-07-25T17:43:47 < Laurenceb> oops 2013-07-25T17:44:28 < dongs> haha 2013-07-25T17:44:36 < dongs> how the fuck do you drive at 2x speed limit on a train 2013-07-25T17:45:34 < Laurenceb> gta: train city 2013-07-25T17:46:38 < dongs> Laurenceb: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DWQMOUmb3Ng its like this 2013-07-25T17:50:28 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkHs7Wl_BNY 2013-07-25T17:50:32 < Laurenceb> why was that related 2013-07-25T17:50:50 < dongs> its based on your browsing history 2013-07-25T17:51:24 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-25T17:56:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25T18:06:46 -!- DanteA [~X@host-252-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-25T18:08:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:15:11 < dongs> damn 2013-07-25T18:15:16 < dongs> this board I used all the pins, even jtag :( 2013-07-25T18:15:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T18:15:34 < dongs> except PC13/14/15 2013-07-25T18:15:36 < dongs> since they're fucking useless. 2013-07-25T18:15:47 < dongs> they should allow jtag remap to those 2013-07-25T18:17:02 < karlp> helpful for rtc people.... (those are the LSE inputs right?) 2013-07-25T18:17:13 -!- DanteA [~X@host-188-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:17:48 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-25T18:18:07 < dongs> oh FUCK 2013-07-25T18:18:19 < dongs> i might have to use that pin after all 2013-07-25T18:18:23 < dongs> for USB 3.3V pullup.. 2013-07-25T18:18:27 < dongs> i hope it works for that lol. 2013-07-25T18:18:33 < karlp> they're also the ones that are "limited drive current" 2013-07-25T18:18:41 < karlp> only a couple of milliamps or something 2013-07-25T18:18:54 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-25T18:19:20 < dongs> fuck i found more nonrouted shit 2013-07-25T18:21:39 < dongs> I can do EXTI on those right? in gpio mode 2013-07-25T18:25:56 < dongs> k one pin left free heh 2013-07-25T18:31:05 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25T18:31:18 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:34:20 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-25T18:34:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@vutral.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:34:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@vutral.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-25T18:34:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:37:48 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:41:10 < emeb> dongs: when I commented out a big const array that f303 code compiles fine in Keil. code size < 8kB 2013-07-25T18:41:27 < dongs> huh why does it remove it here? 2013-07-25T18:41:53 < emeb> looks like it does 2 passes with cross-module optimization. 2013-07-25T18:41:57 < dongs> oh, its ' unused ' right? and linker drops it, but not in freetard version since its > 32k during link 2013-07-25T18:42:01 < dongs> it does 2013-07-25T18:42:05 < emeb> my guess is the 1st pass is too large. 2013-07-25T18:42:15 < emeb> so it skips the 2nd pass 2013-07-25T18:42:32 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@104.67.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25T18:43:20 < emeb> anyway - was able to setup ST-Link flashing and it appears to work. 2013-07-25T18:43:29 < emeb> thx for help. 2013-07-25T18:43:43 < dongs> nice 2013-07-25T18:45:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:46:33 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:46:35 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25T18:47:02 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200055.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:47:08 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200055.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-25T18:47:08 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T18:49:09 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/T56P9YU.gif 2013-07-25T18:53:46 < dongs> hey Laurenceb do you have any stm32 animated gifs 2013-07-25T18:54:16 < Laurenceb> nope 2013-07-25T18:54:24 < emeb> off topic 2013-07-25T18:54:30 < Laurenceb> maybe run some of µGFX 2013-07-25T18:54:33 < emeb> is our topic 2013-07-25T19:00:27 <+Steffanx> Laurenceb is obsessed with the british royals, beh. 2013-07-25T19:00:57 < dongs> wait wat 2013-07-25T19:02:05 <+Steffanx> Yeah, it seems he is. He was happy the baby was born because the news about it would stop.. but he seems to continue his bullcrap. 2013-07-25T19:02:19 <+Steffanx> so i call it an obsession. 2013-07-25T19:08:14 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T19:15:46 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T19:42:26 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T19:42:54 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-25T19:43:57 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T19:59:22 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-25T19:59:37 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T20:04:33 < emeb> Heh. Just had someone ask for gerbers for my ancient stm32f100 breakout board. 2013-07-25T20:04:44 < emeb> That design is so old-n-busted... 2013-07-25T20:11:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-181230.eduroam.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T20:12:08 < thetooth> anyone used stm32plus? 2013-07-25T20:17:34 <+Steffanx> never heard of it 2013-07-25T20:19:17 < thetooth> its p.much C++ STL + device drivers(in C++ style classes ofc) + abstraction of built into perhiperals 2013-07-25T20:19:44 <+Steffanx> The download it terrible slow here 2013-07-25T20:20:04 < thetooth> only what i've found is it seems to depend on GCC's C lib so it pretty much broken lol 2013-07-25T20:26:30 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25T20:34:21 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-25T20:43:07 -!- trepidaciousMBR_ [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 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drivers for TFT displays.. yet another heap of small wrappers around registers 2013-07-25T21:16:57 < qyx_> Thorn: ubuntu, pls 2013-07-25T21:19:15 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-25T21:20:10 <+Steffanx> Yet another thing you should not mention here qyx_? :P 2013-07-25T21:21:11 <+Steffanx> oh no linux was already on the last anyway. 2013-07-25T21:37:00 < zyp> wtf 2013-07-25T21:37:01 < zyp> GpioF > pf; 2013-07-25T21:37:03 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T21:37:27 < zyp> that looks like a pretty weird way to configure ports 2013-07-25T21:38:26 < zyp> seems like a java guy, every example application is wrapped in a class 2013-07-25T21:39:13 < jpa-> i found all these interrupt classes a bit curious.. https://github.com/cjheath/stm32plus/tree/master/stm32plus/src/dma/f4/interrupts 2013-07-25T21:40:04 < jpa-> but... huge amount of code there.. looks to be 100000 lines even if one excludes the stdperiph etc. stuff coming from elsewhere 2013-07-25T21:40:16 < zyp> heh 2013-07-25T21:40:27 < zyp> looks rather verbose 2013-07-25T21:44:16 < thetooth> how many of your work on electronics/intergration professionally? 2013-07-25T21:44:20 < thetooth> you* 2013-07-25T21:45:39 < zyp> what qualifies as «work on electronics»? 2013-07-25T21:46:36 < thetooth> i guess an engineer of some discription? if you do assembly or something thats cool too 2013-07-25T21:48:02 < zyp> I work with embedded stuff, mostly software, might get to do some hardware design in the future 2013-07-25T21:48:31 < thetooth> nice 2013-07-25T21:49:14 < zyp> so far I've mostly been doing lowlevel smartphone software 2013-07-25T21:49:17 < zyp> i.e. drivers 2013-07-25T21:51:27 < thetooth> i'm p.much DIY, though the sort of stuff im working on now is part of a buisness venture, no idea how it'll pan out but how badly can you fuck up with other peoples money, right? 2013-07-25T21:51:49 < zyp> heh :) 2013-07-25T21:54:39 -!- Rickta59_ is 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the reason that got me diving into font compression in the first place :P 2013-07-25T22:04:36 < thetooth> ah, i suppose at anything bigger you should be using vector based fonts though, so small and can draw pretty fast, plus you could do things like off screen caching from ether on the fly or loading a bitmap from flash 2013-07-25T22:04:58 < jpa-> pretty heavy to render, though 2013-07-25T22:05:47 < thetooth> yeah 2013-07-25T22:07:05 < jpa-> besides, bitmap fonts can compress pretty well 2013-07-25T22:12:07 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Read error: No buffer space available] 2013-07-25T22:13:00 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T22:13:05 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-25T22:17:03 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-25T22:17:57 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: CheBuzz, ABLomas, Niedar, h36sa, mansfeld 2013-07-25T22:18:25 -!- 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SPI clock supposed to be half of that i.e. 21MHz right? 2013-07-26T03:00:58 < R2COM> dongs: why useless..? whats the best solution then? if it was useless company would run out of business by making tons of useless ASICs :) 2013-07-26T03:01:24 < dongs> yeah 21 sounds right 2013-07-26T03:01:27 < dongs> also sounds about the max for SPI 2013-07-26T03:01:49 < dongs> or was it 42max? i forget. 2013-07-26T03:02:05 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-26T03:02:08 < R2COM> 21Mbps 2013-07-26T03:02:11 < R2COM> for SPI2/3 2013-07-26T03:02:24 < R2COM> so, 42MHz max then 2013-07-26T03:05:10 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-26T03:07:37 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T03:07:39 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-26T03:07:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T03:11:31 < R2COM> that a little bit doesnt make sense 2013-07-26T03:11:39 < R2COM> even if BR= 011 2013-07-26T03:12:07 < R2COM> I mean 2013-07-26T03:12:08 < R2COM> 010 2013-07-26T03:12:23 < R2COM> I remember I observed like 5Mhz clock or something when used SPI as master 2013-07-26T03:24:22 < dongs> spi clock only matters in master mode 2013-07-26T03:24:24 < dongs> obviosuly 2013-07-26T03:31:12 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-26T03:41:05 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T03:41:54 < R2COM> and even on master clock 2013-07-26T03:41:56 < R2COM> anyhow 2013-07-26T03:41:59 < R2COM> it was wrong 2013-07-26T03:42:00 < R2COM> here: 2013-07-26T03:42:06 < R2COM> BR=010 2013-07-26T03:42:27 < R2COM> and I see on a SCK 10.5MHz on scope 2013-07-26T03:42:30 < R2COM> which now makes sense 2013-07-26T03:42:45 < R2COM> Baudrate=21Mbps---> Clock=Half of that 2013-07-26T03:44:13 < R2COM> its just description was kind of strange too on reference manual 2013-07-26T03:44:21 < R2COM> 010: fPCLK/8110: fPCLK/128 2013-07-26T03:44:27 < R2COM> why the fuck that 2013-07-26T03:45:56 < dongs> Wuhat. 2013-07-26T03:46:04 < dongs> why would baudrate be half of clock? 2013-07-26T03:46:40 < R2COM> well thats what it is 2013-07-26T03:48:35 < R2COM> here is settings: SPI1 -> CR1 |= (SPI_CR1_SPE | 2013-07-26T03:48:35 < R2COM> SPI_CR1_CPOL | 2013-07-26T03:48:35 < R2COM> SPI_CR1_CPHA | 2013-07-26T03:48:35 < R2COM> SPI_CR1_MSTR | 2013-07-26T03:48:35 < R2COM> SPI_CR1_BR_1 | SPI_CR1_SSM | SPI_CR1_SSI); 2013-07-26T03:48:44 < R2COM> so SPI is working, no problems with it 2013-07-26T03:49:00 < R2COM> what I say is: with these settings I measure 10.5MHz clock period on SCK 2013-07-26T03:49:05 < R2COM> (SPI1 is master) 2013-07-26T03:52:19 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T03:53:26 < gxti_> dongs: yes NEO-6T is a thing, now where to get them for a reasonable price for less than a reel qty... 2013-07-26T03:56:44 < dongs> http://www.coocox.org/Embedded_Pi/images/EPi2.png 2013-07-26T03:56:46 < dongs> lold 2013-07-26T04:00:04 < dongs> gxti_: ill poke my chinaman 2013-07-26T04:00:56 < dongs> I wonder if 000 on neo means same fail firmware as lea 2013-07-26T04:01:02 < dongs> http://www.onetalent-gnss.com/_/rsrc/1366579887476/ideas/usb-hw-receivers/rappen10/rap10_v16%20-%20new.JPG?height=300&width=400 2013-07-26T04:01:08 < dongs> these scammers have 6T-0000 2013-07-26T04:01:15 < dongs> but datecode looks 1240 2013-07-26T04:01:18 < dongs> so fairly new 2013-07-26T04:04:50 < R2COM> and with BR=001 its 21MHz 2013-07-26T04:04:51 < R2COM> SCK 2013-07-26T04:05:38 < R2COM> and given that I dont get what they fucking mean with this: 001: fPCLK/4101: fPCLK/64 2013-07-26T04:24:55 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2013-07-26T04:29:52 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T04:46:30 < R2COM> ok 2013-07-26T04:46:55 < R2COM> C# App -----> FT232H----->STM32F4/SPI3 slave works 2013-07-26T04:51:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T04:58:22 < dongs> http://irclo.gr/i/122052/N2Ch99h.jpg retweet 2013-07-26T04:58:56 < dongs> http://irclo.gr/i/121997/Yuh8Ik9.gif 2013-07-26T05:14:41 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T05:17:37 < whatnick> Hey dongs 2013-07-26T05:19:04 < dongs> sup 2013-07-26T05:19:13 < whatnick> still having trouble with the Neo-6P thingie ... could I coax/hire someone to help out 2013-07-26T05:19:28 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-26T05:19:29 < whatnick> have the rappen board above ... 2013-07-26T05:20:23 < whatnick> works as advertised with stock firmware and I have da source . Never managed to recompile and reload . 2013-07-26T05:23:05 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T05:24:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-26T05:41:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T05:42:27 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-26T05:51:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T05:53:30 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:01:22 < dongs> sup twitterers 2013-07-26T06:01:28 < dongs> ah 2013-07-26T06:01:41 < dongs> how can it not work? 2013-07-26T06:01:45 < dongs> youre probably just fucking someting up 2013-07-26T06:20:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-26T06:34:27 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-26T06:36:01 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:36:28 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-26T06:36:44 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:37:43 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:41:30 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-26T06:41:36 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:42:24 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-26T06:42:39 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:43:54 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-26T06:44:17 < emeb_mac> quiet here 2013-07-26T06:44:55 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:46:58 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:47:03 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-26T06:47:34 < dongs> ya 2013-07-26T06:47:36 < dongs> no blogging 2013-07-26T06:49:20 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-26T06:49:25 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-26T06:49:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:50:04 < emeb_mac> tried to compile/test that f303 code on Coocox which doesn't officially support f3xx parts yet. Fail. 2013-07-26T06:54:17 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:54:46 < dongs> heh 2013-07-26T06:55:17 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-26T06:56:45 < R2COM> so 2013-07-26T06:57:13 < R2COM> it turns out that the most efficient way to transfer raw of bytes as slave via SPI in stm32f4 is using DMA? 2013-07-26T06:57:33 < R2COM> (unless main program ended and you dont have to do anything else rather than hang around in for( ;; ) ) 2013-07-26T06:59:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T06:59:51 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-26T07:00:07 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T07:01:54 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T07:05:39 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-26T07:13:23 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T07:15:08 < emeb_mac> what's the alternative? some other interface (fscmc, dcmi, usb) or what? 2013-07-26T07:15:52 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-26T07:26:26 < R2COM> no 2013-07-26T07:26:31 < R2COM> I mean if one wants to use SPI 2013-07-26T07:28:18 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.223.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-26T07:32:16 < emeb_mac> seems like DMA would pretty much always win 2013-07-26T07:32:45 < emeb_mac> if the interface stays constant 2013-07-26T07:34:31 < R2COM> or as I mentioned if program is done, just do it in loops contunuously checking TXE 2013-07-26T07:34:55 < R2COM> check TXE,write to DR,check TXE write to DR... while Master is constantly toggling SCK for stm32 2013-07-26T07:40:37 < upgrdman> yay! i overclocked my ti83+. stock was 5.8MHz, and i got it to 10.1MHz stable 2013-07-26T07:44:39 < emeb_mac> so you can add 1+1 twice as fast? 2013-07-26T07:44:53 < upgrdman> well yes, but its really useful for graphs. 2013-07-26T07:45:09 < upgrdman> graphing a couple functions gets slow 2013-07-26T07:45:16 < upgrdman> now its less slow 2013-07-26T07:45:50 < upgrdman> and i have a ti 89 titanium in the mail toward me now, to satisfy my desire to upgrade anyway :o) 2013-07-26T07:47:41 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.82] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:02:27 < jpa-> R2COM: all ways that can work the SPI slave at full speed are bound to be equally efficient in terms of bandwidth 2013-07-26T08:02:43 < jpa-> R2COM: of course, DMA lets you do other stuff, so it is definitely more efficient in terms of CPU time 2013-07-26T08:12:05 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-11-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-26T08:25:43 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:29:57 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:31:37 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-120-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:31:56 < R2COM> Activate_for_mor: report status for stm32 project 2013-07-26T08:32:56 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200393.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:32:56 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-2925200393.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-26T08:32:56 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:33:37 < Activate_for_mor> it's already watching you 2013-07-26T08:37:50 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-120-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-26T08:38:03 < dongs> haha 2013-07-26T08:38:08 < dongs> in soviet russia, stm32 watches you 2013-07-26T08:41:11 < whatnick> Yep fucking something up is probabaly right 2013-07-26T08:46:48 -!- DanteA [~X@host-93-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:49:13 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:49:26 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-26T08:49:40 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:51:25 -!- DanteA [~X@host-93-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-26T08:51:40 < dongs> who provided the post-bootloader firmwarE? 2013-07-26T08:52:11 < dongs> i mean do they have the sores for exactly same shit thats running on the board now, buildable? 2013-07-26T08:52:17 < dongs> or do they just give some sample code and tell you to fucking use it 2013-07-26T08:54:39 -!- DanteA [~X@host-93-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T08:57:22 < PaulFertser> dongs: btw, there's a "soviet russia" cortex-m3 microcontroller, developed and procuded by "milandr", similar in functionality to f103, but quirkier and less fancy. 2013-07-26T08:57:52 < dongs> ha 2013-07-26T08:58:17 < dongs> http://milandr.ru/en/index.php?mact=Products,cntnt01,details,0&cntnt01productid=13&cntnt01returnid=142 2013-07-26T08:58:21 < dongs> this? 2013-07-26T08:58:40 < dongs> has DAC :D 2013-07-26T08:59:38 < PaulFertser> dongs: yep 2013-07-26T08:59:47 < dongs> actually looks more like F2 2013-07-26T08:59:51 < dongs> feature-wise 2013-07-26T08:59:54 < dongs> cuz USB OTG 2013-07-26T08:59:56 < dongs> and DAC 2013-07-26T09:00:04 < dongs> neat 2013-07-26T09:00:20 < PaulFertser> Hm, right usb otg... 2013-07-26T09:00:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-26T09:00:48 < PaulFertser> What's nice about them is that one can buy military-grade parts in metal housing. 2013-07-26T09:01:13 < PaulFertser> milandr claims they bought full verilog sources for m3 2013-07-26T09:01:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T09:03:24 < PaulFertser> But not ethernet mac, and currently the military folks like to have gigE for whatever reason. 2013-07-26T09:03:35 < dongs> heh 2013-07-26T09:04:17 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@c-71-198-192-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-26T09:04:18 < scrts> hmmm, russian company? 2013-07-26T09:04:23 < PaulFertser> That thing sells for ~16$ for the plastic packaging version. 2013-07-26T09:04:28 < PaulFertser> scrts: yes 2013-07-26T09:04:53 < qyx_> actually that might be cool 2013-07-26T09:04:56 < qyx_> cia-backdoor free 2013-07-26T09:05:18 < PaulFertser> qyx_: do you really believe stm32 might have some backdoors hidden? 2013-07-26T09:05:41 < qyx_> i do really believe most of the hardware have 2013-07-26T09:05:58 < scrts> backdoors like what? 2013-07-26T09:05:59 < qyx_> because it would be dumb not to have 2013-07-26T09:06:10 < PaulFertser> qyx_: yes, what they might be like? 2013-07-26T09:06:24 < dongs> there;s backdoors in F3xx bootloader 2013-07-26T09:06:43 < dongs> or at least stuff doing undocumented shit 2013-07-26T09:06:53 < qyx_> for example the ability to dump contents of locked mcus without low hw access 2013-07-26T09:06:55 < scrts> like You connect UART and it prints all the authors of the chip? 2013-07-26T09:06:55 < dongs> i saw it when i was disassembling it looking for USB bootloader 2013-07-26T09:07:11 -!- Inrelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T09:07:23 < qyx_> i don't say that is true but i assume so 2013-07-26T09:07:36 < dongs> qyx, i dunno if they would make it THAT easy. 2013-07-26T09:09:42 < PaulFertser> qyx_: reading contents of locked consumer-grade mcus is not a problem for cia regardless of any possible backdoors i'd say. 2013-07-26T09:10:25 < qyx_> it is not as it is just matter of changing some fuse bits 2013-07-26T09:11:56 < qyx_> i also think that such things like tpm chips simply wouldn't be allowed to be sold if there wasn't any way to break them 2013-07-26T09:12:12 < qyx_> but these are just my opinions anyway 2013-07-26T09:13:01 < dongs> PRISM'd 2013-07-26T09:14:18 < R2COM> its pretty easy to find "backdoors" 2013-07-26T09:14:51 < scrts> maybe someone knows how many Msamples/s it is possible to achieve on F4 DAC? 2013-07-26T09:15:00 < dongs> DAC? 2013-07-26T09:15:06 < dongs> just barely enough for audio, I htink 2013-07-26T09:15:15 < dongs> I was checking the other day, not fast enough for video :( 2013-07-26T09:15:28 < dongs> the problem is it might be fast enoug hto do small changes 2013-07-26T09:15:34 < dongs> but 0->3.3V change is hard 2013-07-26T09:15:42 < scrts> did You enable -Os for compilator? 2013-07-26T09:15:53 < dongs> scrts: lolwat 2013-07-26T09:16:17 < scrts> well, it was the DAC itself slow, or the whole performance? 2013-07-26T09:16:29 < scrts> I've found some forum topics regarding signal filtering 2013-07-26T09:16:41 < scrts> e.g. https://my.st.com/public/STe2ecommunities/mcu/Lists/cortex_mx_stm32/Flat.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fpublic%2FSTe2ecommunities%2Fmcu%2FLists%2Fcortex_mx_stm32%2FSTM32F4%20Low%20FIR%20filter%20performance%20using%20the%20DSP%20library&FolderCTID=0x01200200770978C69A1141439FE559EB459D7580009C4E14902C3CDE46A77F0FFD06506F5B¤tviews=294 2013-07-26T09:17:10 < dongs> scrts: i was just going by datasheet spec 2013-07-26T09:17:22 < scrts> mhmm 2013-07-26T09:17:26 -!- DanteA [~X@host-93-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-26T09:19:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@d83-183-118-166.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T09:19:10 < R2COM> plus. if you dont want your hardware to be raped after some failure, design it in such a way that it burns when necessary :) 2013-07-26T09:19:27 < qyx_> it's written in datasheet, something like 100kHz bandwidth for full scale changes 2013-07-26T09:19:34 < dongs> qyx_: right 2013-07-26T09:23:00 < R2COM> and 2013-07-26T09:23:15 < R2COM> for qyx... it would be *dumb* to have backdoors in such highly produced chip :) 2013-07-26T09:23:33 < R2COM> because most of the fabs/facilities would be able to figure it out, and embarass ST :) 2013-07-26T09:23:42 < R2COM> and they would loose all clients 2013-07-26T09:23:49 < R2COM> they would not take such a silly risk 2013-07-26T09:24:42 < dongs> actually all Cortex chips themselves are a giant backdoor. The core is emulated by a bigger core thats hidden and it can be controlled by the government to tell it what to do. 2013-07-26T09:24:45 < dongs> amirite?? 2013-07-26T09:25:12 < R2COM> probably no 2013-07-26T09:26:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T09:27:37 < R2COM> "chip" is too little device to be able to hide there something what cant be figured out 2013-07-26T09:27:55 < R2COM> huge complex system...there is maybe some way to implement some "hidden" functionalities 2013-07-26T09:28:51 < R2COM> but not a tiny chip, which someone can 3D scan, and figure out from layout schematics, and from schematics logic, and from logic functionality 2013-07-26T09:29:03 < jpa-> scrts: on F1 DAC, it is possible to get reasonable sine wave at 100kHz.. officially it goes only up to 1MSps, but seems to work up to 2MSps 2013-07-26T09:32:02 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-26T09:32:18 -!- DanteA [~X@host-36-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T09:46:04 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T09:46:56 < scrts> hm, then I probably will try with external DAC :> 2013-07-26T09:47:34 < jpa-> scrts: what do you want to do? 2013-07-26T09:47:42 < scrts> QAM16 modulator 2013-07-26T09:47:58 < jpa-> for what symbol rate? 2013-07-26T09:48:50 < scrts> hope to get at least 2MSymb/s 2013-07-26T09:48:52 -!- zyp_ is now known as zyp 2013-07-26T09:49:15 < jpa-> ah, yeah, external DAC definitely then 2013-07-26T09:49:33 < scrts> I wonder if STM32F4 is powerful enough for that 2013-07-26T09:50:01 < jpa-> for QAM16, even a R2R dac might be enough 2013-07-26T09:50:37 < jpa-> modulation shouldn't be that heavy, right? just lookup DAC values from a table? 2013-07-26T09:51:40 < qyx_> yep 2013-07-26T09:51:45 -!- DanteA [~X@host-36-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-26T09:52:18 < scrts> well, I need to modulate encoded video stream 2013-07-26T09:52:43 < jpa-> do you need to encode the video stream also, or does it just come in from somewhere? 2013-07-26T09:52:56 < scrts> it will come from encoder 2013-07-26T09:53:02 < scrts> to camera interface 2013-07-26T09:53:13 < scrts> or from FPGA 2013-07-26T09:53:45 < scrts> I just want to use a very small FPGA, which wouldn't fit QAM modulator inside 2013-07-26T09:54:00 < jpa-> uh.. why would a QAM modulator take that much FPGA area? 2013-07-26T09:54:12 < jpa-> am i really misunderstanding something here, isn't it just a lookup table? 2013-07-26T09:54:34 < scrts> according to this calculator: http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/bitrates.htm QAM16 @ 2Mbaud/s would let me put up to 7,37Mbit/s of encoded video stream 2013-07-26T09:55:02 < scrts> jpa- -> You have to form symbols, do reed solomon, etc 2013-07-26T09:55:15 < scrts> that's particularly for DVB-C 2013-07-26T09:55:23 < jpa-> ah, so you want reed solomon also 2013-07-26T09:56:24 < jpa-> but are you sure it just won't fit on FPGA? 2013-07-26T09:56:25 < scrts> yeah, many levels... http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300429/01.02.01_60/en_300429v010201p.pdf page 8 2013-07-26T09:57:00 < scrts> well, if I take a really small FPGA or even CPLD - it won't 2013-07-26T09:57:19 < scrts> FPGA is only needed for camera interface of STM32 2013-07-26T09:57:26 < scrts> to form a correct sequence 2013-07-26T09:57:56 < scrts> we use STM32 for DVB-IP streaming from satellite (DVB-S2) 2013-07-26T09:58:00 < jpa-> ok; but i doubt anyone will be able to say whether STM32F4 is fast enough for that bunch of error correction codes.. you'll have to test it 2013-07-26T09:58:09 < scrts> yep, I understand it :) 2013-07-26T09:58:47 < emeb_mac> scrts: what are you doing for pulse shaping? 2013-07-26T09:59:19 < scrts> You mean for QAM modulator? 2013-07-26T09:59:23 < emeb_mac> ya 2013-07-26T09:59:29 < jpa-> i'm just thinking that reed solomon doesn't necessary need that much area on an FPGA.. it might even be easier to do on it than STM32F¤ 2013-07-26T10:00:01 < emeb_mac> RS encoder is pretty simple hardware. 2013-07-26T10:00:08 < scrts> yep 2013-07-26T10:00:20 < emeb_mac> just a bunch of registers + xor gates 2013-07-26T10:00:24 < scrts> emeb_mac -> well I am now developing 32 channels QAM256 modulator 2013-07-26T10:00:29 < scrts> but it's MAXIM hardware 2013-07-26T10:00:39 < scrts> I don't have to do any filtering, it's on the ASIC of MAXIM 2013-07-26T10:00:44 < scrts> I only have to form symbols 2013-07-26T10:01:28 < emeb_mac> sure, but if you're using an ARM + DAC to do modulation then how will you do the nyquist filtering? 2013-07-26T10:01:39 < scrts> I do sync1 inversion and randomization, then RS, then convolutional interleaver and finally byte to m-tuple conversion 2013-07-26T10:01:59 < scrts> emeb_mac -> didn't think about it yet 2013-07-26T10:02:10 < scrts> maybe there are DAC's already doing this? 2013-07-26T10:02:14 < scrts> AD TxDAC maybe? 2013-07-26T10:02:14 < emeb_mac> doubt it 2013-07-26T10:02:32 < jpa-> emeb_mac: how is it usually done? 2013-07-26T10:02:34 < scrts> then I would have to do filtering on STM32... 2013-07-26T10:02:51 < emeb_mac> usually a raised-root-cosine pulse-shaping FIR filter 2013-07-26T10:02:52 < scrts> probably putting a FIR filter 2013-07-26T10:02:58 < scrts> yeah 2013-07-26T10:03:35 < emeb_mac> it could be a challenge to get sufficient taps & oversampling done in software for the data rate you mentioned. 2013-07-26T10:04:43 < jpa-> true 2013-07-26T10:05:02 < jpa-> for 2Msymb/s, you probably want to have the pulse-shaped output at atleast 8Msymb/s? 2013-07-26T10:05:25 < emeb_mac> maybe 2013-07-26T10:05:49 < emeb_mac> even 2x oversampling can work well, but the filter still needs a fair number of taps. 2013-07-26T10:05:52 < qyx_> couldn't it be done in hw on dac output if cutoff freq is constant? 2013-07-26T10:06:08 < emeb_mac> you mean an analog pulse-shaper? 2013-07-26T10:06:14 < qyx_> uhm 2013-07-26T10:06:17 < emeb_mac> maybe, but that's pretty tweaky. 2013-07-26T10:06:38 < emeb_mac> it would definitely impact your BER on the receive side. 2013-07-26T10:07:11 < emeb_mac> trouble is that pulse shaping needs to be linear phase 2013-07-26T10:07:23 < emeb_mac> linear phase analog filters are _hard_ 2013-07-26T10:08:20 -!- Inrelaida_ [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T10:08:33 -!- Inrelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-26T10:08:46 < emeb_mac> OTOH, you could do a fairly good mod + pulse-shaper in a cheap FPGA 2013-07-26T10:09:16 < emeb_mac> a $12 Xilinx Spartan 3 could likely do it for those rates. 2013-07-26T10:09:25 -!- intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-26T10:09:28 < jpa-> yeah.. and IMO it is easier to do constant-rate stuff like this on a FPGA anyway 2013-07-26T10:09:56 < jpa-> software would need all kinds of FIFO and buffer stuff if you want to do something else on the processor also 2013-07-26T10:10:06 < emeb_mac> yep 2013-07-26T10:12:30 < scrts> well out STM32F2 works nicely with external SRAM :) 2013-07-26T10:12:39 < scrts> *our 2013-07-26T10:12:46 < dongs> qam256 for waht 2013-07-26T10:12:50 < dongs> and at waht rates? 2013-07-26T10:13:51 < scrts> currently encoded video on 32CH @ QAM256 -> 1,6Gbps video stream 2013-07-26T10:14:03 < dongs> huh, going through stm32? 2013-07-26T10:14:13 < scrts> no, FPGA plus MAX5862 :) 2013-07-26T10:17:04 < jpa-> lol, so what does the STM32F2 have to do with that? :D 2013-07-26T10:17:21 < dongs> maybe its a fancy reset supervisor 2013-07-26T10:18:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-26T10:19:56 < scrts> jpa- -> I've mentioned only QAM16 @ 2MSymb/s on STM32, not QAM256 :) 2013-07-26T10:22:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T10:24:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-26T10:28:44 < jpa-> scrts: i was just wondering about the line 10:12:30 < scrts> well out STM32F2 works nicely with external SRAM :) 2013-07-26T10:30:20 < scrts> it has SRAM interface 2013-07-26T10:30:25 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/652945597/red-pitaya-open-instruments-for-everyone 2013-07-26T10:31:54 < jpa-> dongs: wanna bet 1) how long will it take to deliver 2) how many dongs will the software suck? 2013-07-26T10:34:10 < Tectu> "how many dongs will the software suck" 2013-07-26T10:34:10 < qyx_> i don't like the art behind this board 2013-07-26T10:34:27 < jpa-> Tectu: isn't "dongs" the obvious unit of measurement for suckiness? 2013-07-26T10:34:38 < Tectu> jpa-, I didn't see it until now, yes :) 2013-07-26T10:35:13 < Tectu> why exactly does it have SATA ports? 2013-07-26T10:35:30 < Tectu> "Daisy chain connectors" 2013-07-26T10:35:42 < dongs> isnt that shit just xilinx zync + some aids 2013-07-26T10:36:25 < jpa-> i wonder what kind of input stuff it has.. ie. does it even have an amplifier 2013-07-26T10:36:44 < Tectu> jpa-, it looks like this: SMA <--> SoC 2013-07-26T10:37:30 < jpa-> aha.. more information now than when i last checked 2013-07-26T10:37:34 < jpa-> only 1 gain level 2013-07-26T10:38:02 < jpa-> 2mV resolution on input.. somewhat limited 2013-07-26T10:39:08 < R2COM> another banana tool 2013-07-26T10:39:23 < R2COM> "research institutions" 2013-07-26T10:39:23 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-26T10:39:36 < Tectu> R2COM, you're in that business, right? 2013-07-26T10:39:43 < R2COM> sure..they will forget about their $$$ equipment and use that shiot 2013-07-26T10:39:48 < Tectu> R2COM, I bet all those tools would cost up to 500k easily? 2013-07-26T10:39:49 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-26T10:40:02 < R2COM> more actually 2013-07-26T10:40:16 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T10:40:20 < R2COM> its funny to use that trash when you have high grade equipment available 2013-07-26T10:40:26 < R2COM> hamtards might use it 2013-07-26T10:40:30 < Tectu> Well, I have to say that these things can be nice for arduino people at home indeed, to be honest. But nothing for professional business for sure 2013-07-26T10:40:49 < R2COM> arduino people lol ok 2013-07-26T10:41:24 < R2COM> he claims he has RF measurement there 2013-07-26T10:41:27 < R2COM> + digital stuff 2013-07-26T10:41:30 < R2COM> on such tiny board? 2013-07-26T10:41:35 < R2COM> I'd love to see layout 2013-07-26T10:41:43 < R2COM> and how he did the separation between digital analog domains 2013-07-26T10:42:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T10:42:49 < jpa-> not every research institution has an equally large budget :P 2013-07-26T10:42:51 < R2COM> I dont see typical RF separation techniques on that board even now on surface 2013-07-26T10:43:12 < R2COM> so I have huge doubt its done in a right way inside as well 2013-07-26T10:43:20 < jpa-> yeah.. i wonder how much noise he really has on that 14bit ADC 2013-07-26T10:43:38 < jpa-> with 8bit ADC you can do pretty much everything wrong and still have insignificant noise :P 2013-07-26T10:44:12 < zyp> hmm, why 100 Mb/s ethernet? doesn't zynq have a GbE MAC? 2013-07-26T10:44:26 < R2COM> anyhow 2013-07-26T10:44:28 < R2COM> trash 2013-07-26T10:44:40 < jpa-> trash because it is for hobbyists? :) 2013-07-26T10:44:51 < R2COM> trash because of those things I mentioned 2013-07-26T10:45:33 < jpa-> only reason i see is that you have doubts about RF separation.. which is a fine concern but it could also be that they'll address that 2013-07-26T10:45:59 < R2COM> I dont also see ground land underneath of crystal too, and some other faults too 2013-07-26T10:46:05 < zyp> hmm, all zynq devices even have two GbE MACs 2013-07-26T10:46:22 < R2COM> connectors 2013-07-26T10:46:24 < R2COM> on top right 2013-07-26T10:46:27 < R2COM> and bottom left 2013-07-26T10:46:29 < R2COM> top left sorry 2013-07-26T10:46:38 < R2COM> and no ground on top between top most left pin 2013-07-26T10:46:41 < R2COM> and RF path pin 2013-07-26T10:46:46 < R2COM> no ground no via fence 2013-07-26T10:46:47 < zyp> so why the fuck do somebody make a device capable of sending/receiving lots of data, and only put 100 Mb/s of ethernet on it? 2013-07-26T10:46:59 < R2COM> or maybe its not intended to be used at same time 2013-07-26T10:47:12 < R2COM> in any way 2013-07-26T10:47:13 < dongs> zyp: or USB 2.0 2013-07-26T10:47:16 < R2COM> its phony looking rf board 2013-07-26T10:47:29 < zyp> dongs, zynq doesn't have usb3 2013-07-26T10:47:33 < zyp> so that much is ok 2013-07-26T10:47:41 < zyp> I mean, that much I'll forgive 2013-07-26T10:47:56 < jpa-> R2COM: could also be that it is not yet the final layout 2013-07-26T10:48:16 < R2COM> dont think so 2013-07-26T10:48:25 < R2COM> I usually prototype all stuff with this features 2013-07-26T10:48:39 < R2COM> and 2013-07-26T10:48:40 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.181.197] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T10:48:41 < R2COM> most people do 2013-07-26T10:48:44 < jpa-> you never measure whether your techniques are actually effective? 2013-07-26T10:48:47 < R2COM> who want it to get done in a right way 2013-07-26T10:49:09 < R2COM> its not actually my techniques 2013-07-26T10:49:15 < jpa-> there is a lot of cargo culting going on in EMC world :) 2013-07-26T10:49:15 < R2COM> its a typical way of doing such boards 2013-07-26T10:49:32 < jpa-> like the split ground plane stuff.. and then a lot of people split it wrong 2013-07-26T10:49:48 < R2COM> thats their problem 2013-07-26T10:49:57 < R2COM> I do split it right in different ways depending on design 2013-07-26T10:50:32 < R2COM> you can simulate how you split it, if you have model for a bead 2013-07-26T10:50:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-2-218.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T10:50:56 < R2COM> models are available even for cheap simulators like spice 2013-07-26T10:51:13 < dongs> haha 2013-07-26T10:51:21 < R2COM> ? 2013-07-26T10:52:18 -!- Laurenceb__ [~Laurence@host86-179-80-156.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-26T10:52:26 < R2COM> nothing funny actually, i'v been simulating different beads from Wurth on LTspice 2013-07-26T10:52:42 < R2COM> and built stuff and tested on bench 2013-07-26T10:52:47 < R2COM> it works 2013-07-26T10:52:50 < jpa-> R2COM: i might think that an equally valid route is to make a prototype, measure its performance and add extra separation in areas with problems, and then measure the next prototype? 2013-07-26T10:53:05 < dongs> OSCILLOSCOPE: 2 channels @ 125 MS/s 14 bit digital with external or signal based triggering capability 2013-07-26T10:53:09 < dongs> isnt this mega trash 2013-07-26T10:53:25 < dongs> like rigol 5020 or wahtever has better shit? 2013-07-26T10:53:26 < R2COM> jpa-: maybe but why not just get it done as right as possible insterad of re-prototyping and loosing money 2013-07-26T10:53:33 < dongs> er DS1052 t hing 2013-07-26T10:53:42 < jpa-> dongs: as a scope, sure; but it does continuous realtime capture 2013-07-26T10:53:49 < dongs> Real-time Sample Rate 2013-07-26T10:53:50 < dongs> 1 GSa/s.each channel..500 MSa/s.dual channels. 2013-07-26T10:53:57 < dongs> thats DS1052 2013-07-26T10:53:59 < dongs> jpa-: um yea so 2013-07-26T10:54:24 < R2COM> I'd rather use Rigol than this trash 2013-07-26T10:54:34 < R2COM> Rigol is kinda ok...at least for microcontroller stuff :) 2013-07-26T10:54:37 < jpa-> rigol won't work as SDR 2013-07-26T10:54:41 < R2COM> or some small analog circuits 2013-07-26T10:54:52 < R2COM> SDR? 2013-07-26T10:54:54 < jpa-> that device is supposed to be multi-purpose 2013-07-26T10:55:01 < R2COM> oh 2013-07-26T10:55:02 < R2COM> fuck that shit 2013-07-26T10:55:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T10:55:10 < R2COM> those who are serious about SDR built their own 2013-07-26T10:55:11 < dongs> cross-platform: sucks on every platform it runs on 2013-07-26T10:55:21 < dongs> this is usually how I see it 2013-07-26T10:55:31 < dongs> this is why I have a scope, and a logic analyzer 2013-07-26T10:55:36 < dongs> combining hte two usually results in aids. 2013-07-26T10:55:48 < R2COM> if one wants to do SDR, he can get dev boards with ADC-only from ADI, and get Xilinx FPGAs boards 2013-07-26T10:55:55 < R2COM> and get them connected via custom connector 2013-07-26T10:55:58 < R2COM> or their connectors 2013-07-26T10:56:07 < R2COM> and build analog RF front end breakouts with SMA cables 2013-07-26T10:56:33 < R2COM> maybe more expencive than this 300$ shit, but at least you know how things are done 2013-07-26T10:56:40 < R2COM> + all aprts are reusable for other projects 2013-07-26T10:56:43 < dongs> R2COM: I got my chiense 2.4ghz 12dBi omni 2013-07-26T10:56:47 < dongs> it came with N connector 2013-07-26T10:56:48 < R2COM> so you effectively do not loose money actually... 2013-07-26T10:56:54 < dongs> so I got a N -> SMA cable on it. 2013-07-26T10:57:12 < dongs> need to take it outside and see how it works 2013-07-26T10:57:19 < dongs> gonna mount it on top of hte building. 2013-07-26T10:57:42 < R2COM> be careful not to disrupt japanese military communications :P 2013-07-26T10:58:59 < R2COM> " It is also very appropriate for PhD or other research projects. " lol 2013-07-26T10:59:15 < dongs> if you dont wanna learn anything right? 2013-07-26T10:59:24 < R2COM> yea 2013-07-26T10:59:45 < jpa-> or if your PhD is not about electronics but you just need to measure some stuff on low budget :P 2013-07-26T10:59:54 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T11:00:10 < R2COM> they should also add "you can also use it in F22 to control its AESA" :P 2013-07-26T11:00:35 < jpa-> hey, that sounds a great idea! :) 2013-07-26T11:01:02 * jpa- waits for first nuclear missile controlled by arduino 2013-07-26T11:01:40 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-2-218.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-26T11:01:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T11:03:18 < R2COM> on the other hand 2013-07-26T11:03:28 < R2COM> if one needs spme Spectrum ANalyzer for below 1.5GHz or so 2013-07-26T11:03:35 < R2COM> I guess Rigol has something for 3$k 2013-07-26T11:03:52 < R2COM> not sure how good that is...but I guess good enough for some non-high fidelity things 2013-07-26T11:03:57 < R2COM> lets see 2013-07-26T11:04:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T11:04:17 < R2COM> http://www.rigolna.com/products/spectrum-analyzers/ 2013-07-26T11:04:57 < R2COM> http://www.rigolna.com/products/spectrum-analyzers/dsa1000/dsa1030/ 2013-07-26T11:05:05 < R2COM> covers mostly used bands 2013-07-26T11:05:10 < R2COM> so 4000$ 2013-07-26T11:05:41 < R2COM> -138dbM 2013-07-26T11:06:34 < R2COM> similar stuff from agilent will cost way way more 2013-07-26T11:08:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T11:09:00 < dongs> i bought some old agilent/HP shit 2013-07-26T11:09:10 < dongs> E4402B 2013-07-26T11:09:28 < dongs> it comes with upgrades on floppy disks 2013-07-26T11:09:48 < R2COM> from specialized retailers of old equipment? 2013-07-26T11:09:52 < dongs> yaeh 2013-07-26T11:09:52 < R2COM> or some fag on ebay 2013-07-26T11:10:05 < dongs> nah it was from some lab in u.s. that was closing down and my pal hooked me up w/paypal on it 2013-07-26T11:10:21 < R2COM> oh well 2013-07-26T11:10:23 < R2COM> its a good SA 2013-07-26T11:10:27 < dongs> it works 2013-07-26T11:10:38 < dongs> i was mostly using it to check for satellite feeds hEH 2013-07-26T11:10:42 < R2COM> well its a cool tool 2013-07-26T11:10:56 < R2COM> I use it for lots of stuff 2013-07-26T11:11:11 < dongs> and how much RF garbage my shit spews out 2013-07-26T11:11:43 < R2COM> http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/5943/Agilent_E4402B.php?gclid=CJ_pwIbbzLgCFctcMgodSmYA4g 2013-07-26T11:11:54 < R2COM> so its like 9$k from first random link 2013-07-26T11:12:12 < dongs> yea i paid about half that 2013-07-26T11:12:28 < R2COM> yeah its possible to find those too, it was just first link from google 2013-07-26T11:18:04 < scrts> dongs -> bought it for Yourself just to play or have a company? :) 2013-07-26T11:18:16 < dongs> I'm my own troll company 2013-07-26T11:18:25 < scrts> :) 2013-07-26T11:19:37 < R2COM> scrts: so you can buy one for yourself too 2013-07-26T11:19:46 < R2COM> or get a decent hooker instead 2013-07-26T11:20:09 < dongs> R2COM would go for opensores hooker 2013-07-26T11:20:11 < dongs> free as in beer 2013-07-26T11:20:20 < R2COM> no why I am not opensores guy 2013-07-26T11:28:03 < R2COM> its time now to get some rest 2013-07-26T11:28:10 < dongs> with a hooker 2013-07-26T11:28:37 < R2COM> no not now 2013-07-26T11:30:42 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T11:31:55 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T11:34:57 < Lt_Lemming> on a GPIO pin on an STM32F103 does it have internal pullup or pulldown resistors? 2013-07-26T11:35:07 < Lt_Lemming> reading the datasheet but not able to find a clear answer 2013-07-26T11:35:26 < dongs> it does in input mode, i believe? 2013-07-26T11:35:37 < dongs> IPD/IPU stuff when configuring it. 2013-07-26T11:36:26 < Lt_Lemming> kk 2013-07-26T11:36:58 < Lt_Lemming> so i can do something like "set pin input, write pin high" and it will pull the pin to Vdd unless I ground it externally? 2013-07-26T11:37:23 < dongs> no you configure it as IPU and it'll be input, high if nothing is trying to drive it. 2013-07-26T11:37:28 < dongs> as opposed to input, floating 2013-07-26T11:40:32 < Lt_Lemming> the input in this is a quadrature rotary encoder 2013-07-26T11:40:48 < dongs> then you just dont care, connect it to TIMx_CH1/2 and set it to encoder mode. 2013-07-26T11:41:06 < Lt_Lemming> kk 2013-07-26T11:55:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T12:04:31 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-218-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T12:05:43 < Tectu> looking for a new solder station... they really got USB now 2013-07-26T12:07:06 < Lt_Lemming> tectu 2013-07-26T12:07:14 < Tectu> Lt_Lemming 2013-07-26T12:07:16 < Lt_Lemming> you should see some of the crazy stuff the weller ones do now 2013-07-26T12:07:31 < Tectu> yes, I look at that right now 2013-07-26T12:07:44 < Tectu> looking at the WD 1M station 2013-07-26T12:07:45 < Lt_Lemming> the iron handles are prorgrammable, so if you move a handle between stations it takes it's settings with it.... 2013-07-26T12:07:48 < Lt_Lemming> ah ok 2013-07-26T12:08:22 < Tectu> yes, the «Stop + Go Iron safty Rest» you mean? 2013-07-26T12:08:28 < Tectu> I am still trying to figure out wtf that thing is 2013-07-26T12:08:38 < Lt_Lemming> oh not seen that one 2013-07-26T12:08:46 < Lt_Lemming> just remember seeing one of their videos about it 2013-07-26T12:08:49 < Lt_Lemming> mildly insane 2013-07-26T12:09:26 < Tectu> link? 2013-07-26T12:11:16 < Lt_Lemming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbIPIh4kK_U 2013-07-26T12:13:05 < Tectu> dat rendering... 2013-07-26T12:14:04 < Lt_Lemming> indeed 2013-07-26T12:15:11 < Tectu> shit 2013-07-26T12:15:14 < Tectu> that is a bit insane 2013-07-26T12:15:18 * Lt_Lemming nods 2013-07-26T12:15:23 < Tectu> that's a good example for 'overdoing' 2013-07-26T12:15:30 < Lt_Lemming> epically cool, but oh wow are they epensive 2013-07-26T12:15:42 < Lt_Lemming> it's like $600 for the base level station without a handle 2013-07-26T12:15:51 < Tectu> in 5 years you can say "back my days we didn't have eeproms inside the soldering iron" and everyone will go like "wooooooot?" 2013-07-26T12:15:59 < Lt_Lemming> heh 2013-07-26T12:16:18 < Lt_Lemming> it's funny how often at the local hackerspace I have to tell people to buy soldering stations 2013-07-26T12:16:32 < Lt_Lemming> cause they rock up for soldering days with these crusty old wall plug irons 2013-07-26T12:16:36 < Tectu> dude that video must have costs millions... 2013-07-26T12:16:38 < Lt_Lemming> and wonder why it doesn't work that well 2013-07-26T12:16:58 < Tectu> well, a 80$ solder station does the job then 2013-07-26T12:17:03 < Lt_Lemming> yeah 2013-07-26T12:17:12 < Lt_Lemming> but these are like $20 hardware store ones 2013-07-26T12:17:43 < Lt_Lemming> we had one guy rock up with, I shit you not, a plumbing soldering iron with a tip about as round as your thumb 2013-07-26T12:17:54 < Lt_Lemming> facepalmed rather hard at that one 2013-07-26T12:18:24 < Tectu> heh 2013-07-26T12:18:32 < Tectu> a friend of mine just showed me some OKI station 2013-07-26T12:19:07 < Tectu> he said they are industrial grade ones... "They pump heat without an end, when you need it. You can solder 0402 SMD or a ball bearing with the same station/iron" 2013-07-26T12:19:23 < Lt_Lemming> inductive one? 2013-07-26T12:19:28 < Tectu> dunno 2013-07-26T12:19:46 < Lt_Lemming> OKI make a range of them, so probably 2013-07-26T12:19:50 < Lt_Lemming> they are pretty nuts 2013-07-26T12:20:25 < Tectu> good or bad nuts? 2013-07-26T12:20:29 < Lt_Lemming> good 2013-07-26T12:20:47 < Lt_Lemming> they basically self regulate the tip because of the way they work 2013-07-26T12:20:53 < Lt_Lemming> so they have NO response time 2013-07-26T12:21:12 < Lt_Lemming> as soon as the tip gets even a ° colder than it's meant to be it's already heating again 2013-07-26T12:21:56 < Tectu> ooh 2013-07-26T12:21:58 < Tectu> that sounds nice :) 2013-07-26T12:22:03 < Lt_Lemming> also the tip of the iron *is* the heater 2013-07-26T12:22:55 < Tectu> Lt_Lemming, not sure if I need this... http://ch.farnell.com/weller/wd-1-uk/wd-1-control-unit-230v-uk/dp/1256917 2013-07-26T12:23:01 < Tectu> we have them at work too, they work pretty well 2013-07-26T12:23:14 < Tectu> but 250$ the bare station 2013-07-26T12:23:21 < Lt_Lemming> how much soldering are you planning on doing outside of work? 2013-07-26T12:23:47 < Tectu> enought ;-) 2013-07-26T12:24:30 < Lt_Lemming> I have http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATTEN-AT-8586-Soldering-Station-Hot-Air-Gun-Solder-Iron-2-1-/110804900780?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc7c9bac and http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATTEN-AT100D-Advanced-Digital-Soldering-Station-100W-/110802551246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc58c1ce 2013-07-26T12:24:42 < Lt_Lemming> never found anthing I can't do quite happily with them 2013-07-26T12:24:48 < Lt_Lemming> and they use standard Hakko tips 2013-07-26T12:25:48 < Tectu> http://ch.farnell.com/weller/wsp80/loetkolben-wsp-80-80w/dp/1256930 2013-07-26T12:25:56 < Tectu> that handle looks nice 2013-07-26T12:26:04 < Tectu> I made bad experiences with those cheap china stuff 2013-07-26T12:26:24 < Tectu> I sometimes solder 9 hours a day at home :D 2013-07-26T12:26:38 < Tectu> and once you got used to high quality shit, you don't want to miss it 2013-07-26T12:27:16 < Lt_Lemming> atten is better than a lot of the Hakko knockoffs 2013-07-26T12:27:59 < Lt_Lemming> bbiab 2013-07-26T12:28:41 < Tectu> Lt_Lemming, tp just showed his: http://www.thermaltronics.com/tmt-5000s.php 2013-07-26T12:30:27 < Lt_Lemming> that's the one I was trying to think of! 2013-07-26T12:30:35 < Lt_Lemming> yeah, there is a place here in brisbane that sells them 2013-07-26T12:30:43 < Lt_Lemming> been wanting to get one for a while 2013-07-26T12:32:50 < Lt_Lemming> they are very nice, and they sell a really cool desoldering tool using the same tech as well, but it uses a compressor and a venturi to make the vacuum 2013-07-26T12:33:47 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-26T12:34:16 < Tectu> yeah, tectu it's a metcal/oki clone 2013-07-26T12:34:31 < Tectu> hah, the OKI one is the one my friend showed me. the one about the ball bearings 2013-07-26T12:34:50 < Tectu> "but" ? 2013-07-26T12:37:43 -!- DanteA [~X@host-100-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T12:39:06 < Lt_Lemming> meaning it doesn't have a vacuum pump in it 2013-07-26T12:39:19 < Lt_Lemming> which is one of the sources of failure in a lot of desoldering tools 2013-07-26T12:39:29 < Lt_Lemming> as it's sucking in some pretty nasty fumes 2013-07-26T12:41:11 < Laurenceb> how do i remove a ref from git? 2013-07-26T12:46:00 < Tectu> Lt_Lemming, I wonder if I want the WDH 20 or the WPS 80 from weller. 2013-07-26T12:46:07 < Tectu> WSP* 2013-07-26T12:46:27 < Lt_Lemming> thermaltronics! 2013-07-26T12:46:29 < Tectu> wait... now I screwed up, let me try again: 2013-07-26T12:46:41 < Tectu> Lt_Lemming, I wonder if I want the WMP or the WSP 80 from weller 2013-07-26T12:47:42 < Lt_Lemming> thermaltronics! 2013-07-26T13:07:00 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T13:13:26 < dongs> http://cdn.magazinecloner.com/9c1a77e5-f95a-481a-bbec-461f041c6e95/77ed6195-4af9-4e6e-a6e6-df6fa7ccae18/high/0000.jpg 2013-07-26T13:16:14 < Laurenceb> status: ordering subscriptions for all mosques 2013-07-26T13:18:51 < Lt_Lemming> rofl 2013-07-26T13:19:39 < Laurenceb> ... and police headquarters 2013-07-26T13:26:41 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-26T13:26:51 -!- Steffanx changed the topic of ##stm32 to: /b/ wannabees | Don't expect too much. 2013-07-26T13:27:13 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-26T13:49:52 < Laurenceb> http://www.activateconference.com/about.html 2013-07-26T13:56:24 < dongs> you mean /b/rothers 2013-07-26T13:57:32 < Lt_Lemming> http://i.imgur.com/uADihc7.jpg <--- getting there slowly but surely 2013-07-26T13:58:04 < dongs> youre missing 1.5k pullup on usb 2013-07-26T13:58:40 < Lt_Lemming> yeah, haven't done that yet, was just trying to work out spacing for the STM 2013-07-26T13:59:30 < dongs> after youre done, run your board through an autorouter like this http://www.toporouter.com/scr/scr8.jpg 2013-07-26T13:59:54 < dongs> http://www.adafruit.com/adablog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/tinypov-bottom.jpg 2013-07-26T13:59:56 < Laurenceb> heh topo 2013-07-26T14:00:44 < Laurenceb> tinyperv 2013-07-26T14:04:14 < dongs> Laurenceb: paste some of your stm32 projects 2013-07-26T14:05:10 < Laurenceb> ....ok 2013-07-26T14:07:23 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/5u2bs20,aMlIfbQ 2013-07-26T14:09:16 < Lt_Lemming> heh, my first name is the same as yours Laurenceb, but spelt the right way :-P 2013-07-26T14:09:33 < dongs> isnt that old 2013-07-26T14:10:10 < Laurenceb> havent made many interesting boards recoently 2013-07-26T14:10:27 < Laurenceb> been working on code/PhD/F4discovery haxor stuff 2013-07-26T14:12:03 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/7pjVLkZ,l29qsKX 2013-07-26T14:12:09 < Laurenceb> exciting stuff there.. or not 2013-07-26T14:14:58 < Laurenceb> i need to do a new autopilot board at some point... 2013-07-26T14:15:34 < Lt_Lemming> Laurenceb, seen the PX4? 2013-07-26T14:15:54 < Laurenceb> yeah 2013-07-26T14:16:19 < Laurenceb> id like an "all in" board 2013-07-26T14:16:23 < Laurenceb> thats also small 2013-07-26T14:16:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ljtFAxM.png 2013-07-26T14:16:29 < dongs> how do I esd protected 2013-07-26T14:16:36 < Laurenceb> with a ublox max7 thats even easier than ever 2013-07-26T14:18:34 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/NFdr57G <- first attempt at the concept in 2010 - the F1 is rather underpowered and theres better sensors now 2013-07-26T14:19:34 < Laurenceb> with and F3 and newer sensors and gps, i think it could be make much smaller 2013-07-26T14:19:47 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/TTU2NLZ.jpg 2013-07-26T14:19:49 < dongs> my current aids without GPS 2013-07-26T14:20:05 < Laurenceb> yeah thats a standard mounting layout 2013-07-26T14:20:07 < dongs> f303 2013-07-26T14:20:16 < Laurenceb> should be possible to fit everything on that size pcb 2013-07-26T14:20:28 < Laurenceb> i.e. add GPS and RF 2013-07-26T14:20:32 < Laurenceb> maybe an SMPS 2013-07-26T14:20:43 <+Steffanx> And go Laurenceb style routing 2013-07-26T14:20:48 < Laurenceb> heh 2013-07-26T14:21:25 < Laurenceb> also if you go for 6mil/6mil you can fit a lot more on 2013-07-26T14:21:35 < Laurenceb> ive always done 10/10 2013-07-26T14:21:39 < dongs> lol 10/10 2013-07-26T14:21:40 < dongs> giant. 2013-07-26T14:22:01 <+Steffanx> Like ths wonderful board you once made Laurenceb? Wit the shitload of wires all over the board? 2013-07-26T14:22:07 <+Steffanx> *with 2013-07-26T14:22:20 < Lt_Lemming> yeah, I tend to use 8mil traces with 6 - 10 mil spacing 2013-07-26T14:22:44 < Lt_Lemming> this one is a bit wider, but just because I'm being lazy 2013-07-26T14:22:51 < Lt_Lemming> and I don't need to compact it down much 2013-07-26T14:24:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/zwytKcP.png hm i hope i can fit this. 2013-07-26T14:28:45 < Laurenceb> wazzat? 2013-07-26T14:30:56 -!- englishman is now known as englishman_away 2013-07-26T14:34:50 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-26T14:41:47 < dongs> some stuff 2013-07-26T14:44:10 < zyp> same as previous split-plane board, looks like 2013-07-26T14:44:25 < dongs> nah that was 3 revisions ago 2013-07-26T14:44:31 < dongs> different tuner chip now 2013-07-26T14:44:36 < dongs> on last 2 2013-07-26T14:46:06 < Laurenceb> dvbt tuner? 2013-07-26T14:46:18 < dongs> dvbt->japtv 2013-07-26T14:46:23 < Laurenceb> ah 2013-07-26T15:02:13 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T15:07:07 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-26T15:07:18 -!- DanteA [~X@host-100-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-26T15:15:23 < Laurenceb> http://leobodnar.com/files/RB/index2.html 2013-07-26T15:16:02 <+Steffanx> yeah that guy has a nice job 2013-07-26T15:16:18 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-26T15:16:41 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T15:21:33 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@95.139.181.197] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-26T15:23:03 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-26T15:28:39 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T16:03:55 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-218-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-26T16:06:45 -!- whatnick1 [~Administr@219-90-129-230.ip.adam.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T16:08:46 -!- whatnick [~Administr@219.90.129.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-26T16:12:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-26T16:27:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T16:27:51 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T16:49:48 < dongs> cool 2013-07-26T16:49:50 < dongs> fit it all in 2013-07-26T17:01:38 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-26T17:01:40 -!- Steffanx changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | This channel is publicly logged ( is it? ) | GCC example project: https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT_Example (Blinky lights, linkerscript, startup code and working malloc) | Join us building the ##stm32 toolchain: https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT (now with multilib) | We have a wiki http://stm32.izua.ro 2013-07-26T17:01:40 -!- Steffanx changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | This channel is publicly logged ( is it? ) | GCC example project: https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT_Example (Blinky lights, linkerscript, startup code and working malloc) | Join us building the ##stm32 toolchain: https://github.com/EliasOenal/TNT (now with multilib) | We have a wiki http://stm32.izua.ro 2013-07-26T17:01:53 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-26T17:02:48 < Posterdati> hi 2013-07-26T17:03:35 < Posterdati> which are the arguments to IS_RCC_AHB_PERIPH() macro? RCC_AHBPeriph_X ??? 2013-07-26T17:07:21 < Laurenceb> http://sysadminday.com/ 2013-07-26T17:07:23 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-26T17:14:17 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-200-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T17:24:00 < Laurenceb> http://www.030303.nl/gfx/oz.jpg 2013-07-26T17:31:24 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-26T17:31:33 < R0b0t1> Posterdati: Check the library source 2013-07-26T17:31:43 < R0b0t1> (that will be the easiest way to find out) 2013-07-26T17:31:51 < R0b0t1> hope you know how to use multi-file grep 2013-07-26T17:33:06 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-200-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-26T17:33:08 < karlp> ack 2013-07-26T17:36:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T17:46:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-26T17:54:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] 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are going to the effort of writing your own library, may wish to do it yourself 2013-07-26T17:58:37 < R0b0t1> you could piggyback off of some lower level defines 2013-07-26T17:59:17 < dongs> yeah 2013-07-26T18:00:36 < Laurenceb> feel like tom cruise in rain man here... 2013-07-26T18:01:00 <+Steffanx> perhaps say it to him instead of us Laurenceb.. 2013-07-26T18:01:12 <+Steffanx> We really can't help you here. 2013-07-26T18:01:14 < dongs> yea like he said, if youre wasting time to rewrite it.. just do it properly. 2013-07-26T18:01:15 < Posterdati> R0b0t1: mmmh I'm quite interested, but no time, if I have to I should rewrite all 2013-07-26T18:01:17 < dongs> or use zyp's stuff. 2013-07-26T18:01:29 <+Steffanx> or give me his phone number 2013-07-26T18:01:48 <+Steffanx> So i can do it for you. 2013-07-26T18:04:34 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-26T18:09:09 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 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Laurenceb> arg so confusing 2013-07-26T19:09:48 < Laurenceb> what do i need to provide for scanf to work? 2013-07-26T19:10:41 < Laurenceb> actually - sscanf 2013-07-26T19:10:57 < karlp> getc and malloc probably. 2013-07-26T19:11:09 < Laurenceb> hmm ok 2013-07-26T19:11:10 < Laurenceb> wtf then 2013-07-26T19:11:13 < Laurenceb> this used to work 2013-07-26T19:12:33 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T19:22:10 < Laurenceb> arg wtf 2013-07-26T19:22:22 < Laurenceb> im going to have to rewrite it 2013-07-26T19:22:28 < Laurenceb> yet the code used to run fine 2013-07-26T19:22:31 < Laurenceb> so weird 2013-07-26T19:22:48 < Laurenceb> i have malloc support 2013-07-26T19:24:23 < karlp> sure you're using the same toolchain as before? 2013-07-26T19:24:27 < karlp> old one included something else? 2013-07-26T19:24:40 < Laurenceb> im confused 2013-07-26T19:24:49 < Laurenceb> im sure i was using GEA before 2013-07-26T19:25:26 < zyp> are you using nano.specs now? 2013-07-26T19:25:26 < Laurenceb> the float pointers are not getting anything put into them by sscanf 2013-07-26T19:25:39 < zyp> because nano.specs disables float stuff 2013-07-26T19:25:45 < Laurenceb> zyp: how do i konw if i am using that? 2013-07-26T19:25:55 <+Steffanx> check your makefile ? 2013-07-26T19:25:58 < zyp> do you link with --specs=nano.specs? 2013-07-26T19:26:20 < Laurenceb> nope 2013-07-26T19:26:21 -!- DanteA [~X@host-167-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T19:26:34 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro 2013-07-26T19:26:37 < Laurenceb> project is there 2013-07-26T19:26:46 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro/blob/master/main.c#L142 2013-07-26T19:26:50 < Laurenceb> is the line where it fails 2013-07-26T19:28:22 < Laurenceb> if sscanf fails, with strtod work? 2013-07-26T19:31:44 < Laurenceb> hmm 2013-07-26T19:31:48 < Laurenceb> maybe it never worked 2013-07-26T19:31:55 < Laurenceb> and i never realised this before 2013-07-26T19:32:00 < Laurenceb> seems unlikely tho 2013-07-26T19:32:09 < Laurenceb> its def broken atm 2013-07-26T19:46:48 -!- DanteA [~X@host-167-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-26T19:55:19 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-108.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T19:55:38 < timemob> http://www.imgur.com/m486mo2.jpeg 2013-07-26T19:56:49 < timemob> Sup 2013-07-26T19:57:30 < gxti_> sup weeaboo 2013-07-26T19:57:36 < Laurenceb> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/porn-shot-in-cornell-engineering-library-students-study-in-background_n_1933687.html 2013-07-26T19:57:45 < timemob> 6t not available 2013-07-26T19:57:55 < timemob> What a surprise 2013-07-26T19:58:55 < gxti_> that's why i'm using the cheap ones 2013-07-26T19:58:59 -!- gxti_ is now known as gxti 2013-07-26T20:00:38 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-26T20:03:09 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 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<+Steffanx> i think you are right.. i didn't even metion the text 2013-07-26T23:09:04 <+Steffanx> *see 2013-07-26T23:09:25 -!- zeropointo [d89dd0a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.157.208.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-26T23:10:11 <+Steffanx> Too bad. 2013-07-26T23:15:21 < Thorn> it also seems the cable to the ruler is not just power but also data and the prorcessing is done on the PC. double fail 2013-07-26T23:29:21 -!- TeknoJuce01 [~TeknoJuce@bas1-london15-1168017428.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: The g33k's are in the house OMGosh! 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2013-07-27T03:32:30 < gxti> did you start the HSE? 2013-07-27T03:33:32 < someone_r> RCC_HSEConfig(RCC_HSE_ON); 2013-07-27T03:34:43 < someone_r> is this, right? 2013-07-27T03:34:59 < gxti> i don't know, i've never tried to use the HSE without it being the main sysclk. 2013-07-27T03:35:41 < gxti> it looks like you may also be able to select XT1 directly for MCO and bypass the HSE entirely 2013-07-27T03:35:59 < someone_r> ok how? 2013-07-27T03:36:22 < karlp> anyone seen any of these f401 for sale anywhere? 2013-07-27T03:36:32 < gxti> it's one of the options for MCO output, in the f102 reference manual anyway 2013-07-27T03:37:18 < gxti> other than that i'd say look at how stdperiph initializes HSE, or maybe just try selecting HSE for SYSCLK and see if that makes HSE MCO work. 2013-07-27T03:40:56 < someone_r> ok thanks 2013-07-27T03:41:02 < someone_r> i will look into that 2013-07-27T04:11:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-27T04:40:10 < dongs> sup blogosphere 2013-07-27T04:47:29 < dongs> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.dvb/34467 laughin out loud. 2013-07-27T04:49:11 < gxti> old 2013-07-27T04:49:16 < dongs> quite 2013-07-27T04:51:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:08:05 -!- izzy_ [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:11:30 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-27T05:13:55 < emeb_mac> hmmm... looks like the ubuntu-edge indiegogo has stalled out around 6M 2013-07-27T05:19:59 < dongs> haha 2013-07-27T05:22:14 -!- izzy_ [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-27T05:23:00 < dongs> death to opensores 2013-07-27T05:24:22 < englishman> thats still more than i made last week 2013-07-27T05:25:24 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:26:25 < dongs> but you didnt lie about shitty lunix vaporware product wiht obsolete hardware 2013-07-27T05:27:16 < englishman> no but i could have 2013-07-27T05:30:29 -!- izzy_ [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:32:05 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-27T05:37:38 -!- izzy_ [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-27T05:38:10 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:40:55 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@76.164.192.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-27T05:44:31 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@76.164.192.124] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:46:42 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-27T05:48:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-27T05:53:46 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-27T05:55:42 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T05:56:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-27T05:59:06 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-27T05:59:26 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:07:34 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2013-07-27T06:07:44 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:10:07 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:15:36 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-27T06:16:42 -!- izzy_ [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:17:44 -!- izzy84075 [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-27T06:21:02 -!- izzy_ [~quassel@50.46.18.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-27T06:44:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:47:36 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:48:05 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-27T06:48:15 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T06:48:15 < R2COM> hello primitive Earth creatures 2013-07-27T06:48:37 * ttmrichter is not primitive; is slightly ahead of the times. 2013-07-27T06:48:58 < R2COM> you look same to me as others 2013-07-27T06:49:52 < dongs> trolling on trolls 2013-07-27T06:50:25 < ttmrichter> R2COM: Still slightly ahead of the times. By a few hours at least. 2013-07-27T06:51:24 < karlp> R2COM: did you find out about yoru spi bit defintiions not making sense? 2013-07-27T06:51:44 < R2COM> hmm? 2013-07-27T06:51:59 < R2COM> I forgot already about that 2013-07-27T06:52:07 < R2COM> what exactly didnt make sense 2013-07-27T06:52:17 < R2COM> ah well 2013-07-27T06:52:19 < R2COM> speed 2013-07-27T06:52:32 < R2COM> well I just correlated the definitions to known SCK speed 2013-07-27T06:52:43 < R2COM> and thats it, it works for me 2013-07-27T06:52:58 < R2COM> but yeah... those bit defines, not sure why they wroite it that way 2013-07-27T06:52:59 < karlp> never mind, it wa sjus tsomething I'd had before, 2013-07-27T06:53:03 < karlp> it's two columns, 2013-07-27T06:53:06 < R2COM> right 2013-07-27T06:53:09 < karlp> it just doesn't look like the rest of the datasheets 2013-07-27T06:53:13 < R2COM> so I'm not sure why they did it 2013-07-27T06:53:30 < karlp> I got confused by it a while ago, and I remember someone else getting confused as well. 2013-07-27T06:53:43 < R2COM> but at least I know my SCK speed for each definition, which is what one should care all about 2013-07-27T06:53:49 < karlp> you were gone when I was reading the backlog over a coffee..... many hours ago 2013-07-27T06:54:12 < R2COM> 010 I guess was giving 21MHz 2013-07-27T06:54:16 < R2COM> no 2013-07-27T06:54:18 < R2COM> 10.5MHz 2013-07-27T06:54:24 < R2COM> and 001 was giving 21MHz 2013-07-27T06:54:34 < R2COM> sck Period 2013-07-27T06:55:12 < R2COM> so I know my masters SCK period... and not sure if I *need* to go ahead and figure out ST's fucked up notation 2013-07-27T06:56:11 < R2COM> I saw someone on STs forums saying something that that number is divder for APB2/1 2013-07-27T06:56:15 < R2COM> but its not the case... 2013-07-27T07:08:56 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-85-184.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T07:44:07 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-27T08:04:39 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] 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correct on received traffic, except for NBNS Name query NB WORKGROUP. 2013-07-27T17:52:39 < inca> UDP broadcast 2013-07-27T17:56:03 < inca> not even my gratuitous ARP is seen due to lack of checksum 2013-07-27T17:56:24 -!- DanteA [~X@host-158-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T17:58:19 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.170] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T18:00:08 < inca> reference manual, here we come 2013-07-27T18:01:46 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-27T18:08:40 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T18:15:57 < Posterdati> hi 2013-07-27T18:16:10 < Posterdati> is anyone using ext2 on an embedded platform? 2013-07-27T18:26:01 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-27T18:28:09 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T18:30:42 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit 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important 2013-07-27T18:39:39 < Posterdati> no, I'dlike to write a file with numerical data in it 2013-07-27T18:39:52 < Posterdati> read from an accelerometer 2013-07-27T18:40:10 < inca_> that sounds like something you may not need a filesystem for... 2013-07-27T18:40:31 < Posterdati> yes I could write data in sd blocks 2013-07-27T18:41:16 < Posterdati> but it is hard to get data from sd in that way 2013-07-27T18:41:18 < gxti> FAT isn't really free until the patents expire, not sure exactly when that happens 2013-07-27T18:41:30 < Posterdati> gxti: exactly 2013-07-27T18:41:31 < inca_> FAT has been around since forever 2013-07-27T18:41:54 < gxti> patents live forever on software timescales 2013-07-27T18:42:16 < inca_> maybe you pay licensing for FAT16 or 32, but the original FAT is way too old for patents. 2013-07-27T18:42:36 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.170] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T18:42:46 < gxti> actually they concern long filename support, so you can be patent free as long as you love 8.3 filenames 2013-07-27T18:44:28 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-27T18:44:40 * inca_ read wikipedia on FAT 2013-07-27T18:44:49 < inca_> seriously 2013-07-27T18:44:52 < inca_> what a joke 2013-07-27T18:45:07 < inca_> I will implement and patent a filesystem called FATTY 2013-07-27T18:45:35 < inca_> I will add one character of allowable length to filenames per year per new improvement patent 2013-07-27T18:46:09 < inca_> the novelty of my patent trolling will be part of the patented intellectual property 2013-07-27T18:46:28 < inca_> all other patent trolls using similar methods will be forced to pay me royalties 2013-07-27T18:46:32 < ttmrichter> There's already a patent on patent trolling. 2013-07-27T18:46:51 < inca_> ttmrichter: yes, but mine is unique 2013-07-27T18:47:17 < inca_> and it's attached to something which might actually be patentable in the first place, giving me partial credit toward more legitimacy 2013-07-27T18:47:28 * inca_ rolls his eyes 2013-07-27T18:47:48 < qyx_> 17:41 < Posterdati> but it is hard to get data from sd in that way 2013-07-27T18:47:50 < qyx_> why 2013-07-27T18:48:02 < qyx_> dd 2013-07-27T18:48:04 < Posterdati> you have to read it block by block 2013-07-27T18:48:16 < Posterdati> on windows systems 2013-07-27T18:48:28 < Posterdati> there's no dd 2013-07-27T18:48:28 < qyx_> :S 2013-07-27T18:48:37 < gxti> google windows dd 2013-07-27T18:48:38 -!- englishguy [~englishgu@166.62.212.71] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2013-07-27T18:49:12 < Posterdati> I cannot base a product on other people software 2013-07-27T18:49:42 < gxti> mmmhmm. 2013-07-27T18:49:53 < gxti> good luck with that. 2013-07-27T18:50:06 < qyx_> what, why not 2013-07-27T18:50:55 < qyx_> you write a documentation for your product in a format that requires other people software to read 2013-07-27T18:51:06 < qyx_> and your firmware requires other people compiler to compile 2013-07-27T18:51:29 < qyx_> why is it problem if it requires other people software to read data 2013-07-27T18:52:13 < qyx_> actually even using fat it would require other people os to read it 2013-07-27T18:53:27 < gxti> better just add a thermal printer to your product so people can read the results directly, although you'll have to rely on the paper supplier 2013-07-27T18:58:53 < ttmrichter> Just make sure there's no I/O in the product and it can then be self-contained. :) 2013-07-27T19:00:29 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.220.48] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T19:10:15 < Laurenceb_> anyone know where i could buy something like this?> 2013-07-27T19:10:16 < Laurenceb_> http://www.h2wtech.com/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?prodid=36 2013-07-27T19:10:30 < Laurenceb_> theres some on ebay.. but this is for work project 2013-07-27T19:10:53 < Laurenceb_> - anywhere in europe 2013-07-27T19:23:37 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-27T19:24:12 -!- dfletcher_ 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yeah that's an external reference, you'd only connect one pin for that one 2013-07-27T23:46:55 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-27T23:47:15 < Lt_Lemming> that is a common package to get crystals in 2013-07-27T23:47:23 < Lt_Lemming> one of the boards I just finished working on uses on 2013-07-27T23:47:43 < Lt_Lemming> uses one* 2013-07-27T23:48:00 < someone_r> ok 2013-07-27T23:48:25 < someone_r> so i have to try 2013-07-27T23:55:01 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-27T23:56:03 < someone_r> thanks 2013-07-27T23:58:36 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.17] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-27T23:58:57 -!- englishguy [~englishgu@207.96.194.87] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Jul 28 2013 2013-07-28T00:01:25 -!- englishguy [~englishgu@207.96.194.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T00:01:34 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T00:03:27 -!- l4cr0ss 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#avr and start asking arduino questions 2013-07-28T02:39:21 < Lt_Lemming> watch them lose their shit :-P 2013-07-28T02:42:47 < Laurenceb_> hehe 2013-07-28T02:44:08 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.221.184] has quit [Quit: sleep] 2013-07-28T02:57:35 < dongs> pretty sure im still +q'd from #avr 2013-07-28T02:57:41 < dongs> since years ago 2013-07-28T03:01:02 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T03:01:07 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-28T03:02:27 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T03:10:16 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T03:15:05 < Thorn> http://i.imgur.com/y7awF8c.png 2013-07-28T03:28:54 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-28T03:40:49 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined 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2013-07-28T09:47:15 < PaulFertser> zippe: interesting, thanks! 2013-07-28T09:47:30 < zippe> Hmm, wait, no, that was something else; it's actually DTRT and gone into ~/toolchain 2013-07-28T09:48:17 < zippe> And woot, now the code fits 2013-07-28T09:51:09 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T09:52:30 < R2COM> what was that command in gdb to shoot the functions with arguments? 2013-07-28T09:54:16 < PaulFertser> R2COM: p 2013-07-28T09:55:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.35.66] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T09:55:45 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar] by ChanServ 2013-07-28T09:59:17 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.32.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T10:00:37 < R2COM> p func(x1,x2) 2013-07-28T10:00:38 < R2COM> ? 2013-07-28T10:01:03 < R2COM> I tried it, couple times gdb was a bit mad on that and requested me to quit it :) 2013-07-28T10:03:52 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 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(y or n) 2013-07-28T10:14:55 < R2COM> immediate dong's response regarding gdb is expected within no more than 5 minutes. 2013-07-28T10:22:45 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T10:25:52 < jpa-> R2COM: maybe your stack pointer is funny? 2013-07-28T10:26:04 < jpa-> gdb uses the current stack for function execution 2013-07-28T10:27:49 < R2COM> meh 2013-07-28T10:28:05 < R2COM> if thats the case then fuck that shit 2013-07-28T10:28:39 < R2COM> its easier then to get it done without this function rather than "worry about stack pointer, in order for manual function call work" its like 2x more job for something I wanted to get done quick :) 2013-07-28T10:28:56 < R2COM> ok fuckit 2013-07-28T10:29:21 < R2COM> next question: shouldnt something like this be considered like "reading SPI->DR register?" if (SPI3->DR == 0x1) 2013-07-28T10:29:33 < dongs> yeah. 2013-07-28T10:29:50 < dongs> SPI3->DR; is also reading it. 2013-07-28T10:29:56 < dongs> if you dont want the data. 2013-07-28T10:40:51 < zippe> (assuming "SPI" is marked volatile) 2013-07-28T10:41:06 < zippe> It's common to cast it to void to make it clear to the reader that you meant to do that. 2013-07-28T10:41:14 < zippe> e.g. (void)SPI->DR; 2013-07-28T10:46:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-28T10:47:59 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T10:48:18 -!- dfletcher [~fletch@108-196-222-251.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T10:51:15 < Lt_Lemming> kinda do like SPI 2013-07-28T10:51:21 < Lt_Lemming> it's a nice bus 2013-07-28T10:52:01 < R2COM> its way more reliable transfer with FTDI to PC rather than UART 2013-07-28T10:52:10 < R2COM> whose buffers/timeouts are harder to control 2013-07-28T10:52:25 < Lt_Lemming> yeah, but more talking about for use on boards 2013-07-28T10:52:28 < R2COM> whereas in SPI, the master gets data from even fast slave only when himself decides to clock the bus 2013-07-28T10:52:38 < R2COM> sure... 2013-07-28T10:57:54 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@80.179.9.115] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:02:22 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@80.179.9.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T11:10:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:15:28 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T11:21:59 < dongs> zippe: it is in cmsis headers 2013-07-28T11:24:39 < zippe> Assuming you use them 2013-07-28T11:28:45 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:36:30 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:36:49 < dongs> well, only filthy opensaucrerers don't. 2013-07-28T11:38:19 -!- a [~androirc@2.55.126.249] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:39:52 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-28T11:43:24 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T11:43:37 < zippe> Or anyone that cares about their sanity 2013-07-28T11:43:39 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:44:14 -!- a [~androirc@2.55.126.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T11:45:09 < dongs> CMSIS is from arm, its legit? 2013-07-28T11:45:14 < dongs> you must be confusing it with stdperiphlib 2013-07-28T11:46:53 -!- a [~androirc@2.55.113.223] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:52:03 -!- a [~androirc@2.55.113.223] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-28T11:52:18 -!- a [~androirc@2.55.113.223] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:55:54 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T11:58:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-28T12:01:43 < jpa-> dongs: the ST peripherals are definitely not included in the headers made by ARM 2013-07-28T12:01:50 < jpa-> but IMO the stdperiph headers are quite fine 2013-07-28T12:02:52 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-28T12:03:31 < dongs> yeah the only dudes who have way too much time on their hands ( = opensores ) will spend time rewriting those 2013-07-28T12:03:42 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 2013-07-28T12:03:42 < a> Is there any logging still working on this channel ? 2013-07-28T12:03:48 < dongs> sure 2013-07-28T12:03:54 < jpa-> a: seems to be broken 2013-07-28T12:03:57 < dongs> well 2013-07-28T12:03:58 < jpa-> zlog is gone 2013-07-28T12:03:59 < dongs> maybe not 2013-07-28T12:04:01 < dongs> yeah i see. 2013-07-28T12:04:19 < jpa-> i wonder what kind of license CMSIS-SVD has.. it would be quite nice for generating custom versions of the headers 2013-07-28T12:05:02 -!- a [~androirc@2.55.113.223] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 2013-07-28T12:05:13 < dongs> ^ surely a spy 2013-07-28T12:05:22 < dongs> a LIVING PRISM 2013-07-28T12:07:54 -!- arnonh [~androirc@2.55.113.223] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T12:08:28 < Thorn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoopa_hs/sets/72157627714453063/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoopa_hs/ 2013-07-28T12:08:41 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T12:09:35 < jpa-> arnonh: http://xob.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stm32/ 2013-07-28T12:10:24 < arnonh> Thanks 2013-07-28T12:11:10 < dongs> Thorn: whaaaaaaaaat 2013-07-28T12:11:44 < dongs> wwwwwwwwhat the fuck is going on there 2013-07-28T12:13:32 < Thorn> it's an anutomatic macro photography setup that shoots insects when they're in focus or something like that 2013-07-28T12:14:09 < jpa-> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoopa_hs/sets/72157633009565260/ nice pictures 2013-07-28T12:16:20 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T12:17:29 < Thorn> apparently everything is coded in hdl, no CPUs 2013-07-28T12:19:43 -!- arnonh [~androirc@2.55.113.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T12:19:52 -!- arnonh_ [~androirc@2.55.135.101] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T12:24:03 -!- arnonh_ is now known as arnonh 2013-07-28T12:25:21 < R2COM1> i dont see myself in those logs 2013-07-28T12:25:25 < R2COM1> i dont troll enough here? 2013-07-28T12:25:47 < dongs> youre not importatnt enough 2013-07-28T12:25:51 < dongs> or he probably has you on ignore 2013-07-28T12:26:29 -!- arnonh [~androirc@2.55.135.101] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 2013-07-28T12:44:00 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.15] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T12:44:57 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-28T13:05:14 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T13:10:22 < jpa-> zyp: btw, you were once thinking about the eink & rfid stuff.. apparently digikey has some flexible eink displays and because they are segmented instead of TFT, the drive current is on the microampere level http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=-824&y=-73&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=e-ink 2013-07-28T13:24:28 -!- TeknoJuce [TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T13:26:04 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-28T13:26:14 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T13:36:10 < Tectu> quite inexpensive 2013-07-28T13:36:49 < Tectu> jpa-, I wonder where they put the controller there: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/SC009221/1272-1000-ND/3740381 2013-07-28T13:37:28 < zyp> lowest part of the circle, I assume 2013-07-28T13:37:43 -!- karlp [~karl@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-28T13:37:51 -!- karlp [~karl@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T13:37:55 < dongs> e-dink 2013-07-28T13:38:09 < jpa-> Tectu: what controller? 2013-07-28T13:38:27 < jpa-> i don't think there is any controller there 2013-07-28T13:38:50 < Tectu> jpa-, Interface I²C, SPI 2013-07-28T13:38:51 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-28T13:38:54 < zyp> ah, right, according to pdf it's not 2013-07-28T13:39:13 < jpa-> Tectu: never trust distributor data 2013-07-28T13:39:18 < Tectu> :< 2013-07-28T13:39:34 < jpa-> i doubt i2c requires 50 lines :) 2013-07-28T13:40:05 < Tectu> well, I remember that you said you need like four voltages 2013-07-28T13:40:08 < Tectu> then one ground for each 2013-07-28T13:40:11 < Tectu> then some global grounds 2013-07-28T13:40:20 < Tectu> SPI (4) + I²C (2) 2013-07-28T13:40:28 < Tectu> hmm, still too many lanes :D 2013-07-28T13:40:41 < jpa-> ah well, but anyway it is very different for segmented displays :) 2013-07-28T13:40:48 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T13:40:50 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T13:40:53 < jpa-> i bet you could probably run those off the 3.3V GPIO directly 2013-07-28T13:41:00 < jpa-> or some shift register 2013-07-28T13:41:45 < zyp> pdf says at least 5V 2013-07-28T13:41:52 < zyp> http://www.eink.com/sell_sheets/segmented_evaluation_guide.pdf <- this one 2013-07-28T13:41:55 < jpa-> yeah 2013-07-28T13:42:07 < jpa-> higher voltage => better contrast 2013-07-28T13:44:48 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-28T14:02:28 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-175.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T14:12:01 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-175.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-28T14:13:04 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T14:19:01 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T15:13:14 -!- Erik__ [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T15:15:01 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T15:18:38 -!- Erik__ [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T15:26:31 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-86-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T15:30:07 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T15:31:25 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T15:32:32 < zyp> jpa-, http://vimeo.com/52836044 <- looks like it has already been done 2013-07-28T15:40:25 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T15:40:38 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T16:06:14 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-86-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T16:13:02 -!- zetaz [~arno@42.6.83.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T16:22:23 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T16:23:17 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T16:27:05 < dongs> https://vine.co/v/hmgJbHKUBJi attn Laurenceb_ 2013-07-28T16:39:38 < Laurenceb_> have molex changed their product numbering or something? 2013-07-28T16:39:49 < Laurenceb_> im trying to find 53263-0610 2013-07-28T16:39:51 -!- zetaz [~arno@42.6.83.79.rev.sfr.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-28T16:40:44 < Laurenceb_> epic lulz 2013-07-28T16:40:58 < Laurenceb_> http://janetduncan.com/wp-content/uploads/folk-art-dolls1.jpg 2013-07-28T16:41:10 < Laurenceb_> google image results for 53263-0610 2013-07-28T16:42:52 < Laurenceb_> looks like im getting trolololoed 2013-07-28T16:46:39 < dongs> youre doing it wrong for sure 2013-07-28T16:46:57 < Laurenceb_> http://astrosyn.com/shopimages/technicaldatasheets/MY11HS3-2%20Technical%20Datasheet.pdf 2013-07-28T16:47:02 < Laurenceb_> need the connector off that 2013-07-28T16:47:10 < Laurenceb_> guess i could tear down a motor... 2013-07-28T16:47:39 < dongs> its some random 2.54mm pitch trash 2013-07-28T16:48:31 * Laurenceb_ starts looking through molex range... 2013-07-28T16:48:48 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-81-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T16:59:48 -!- DanteA [~X@host-237-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:04:10 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T17:04:23 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:07:04 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T17:07:18 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:07:26 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@188.134.9.161] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-28T17:07:26 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:08:29 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-28T17:08:39 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T17:08:56 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:12:09 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:13:02 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T17:14:30 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:18:28 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T17:21:57 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T17:28:36 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-28T17:29:13 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:29:57 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-81-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T17:35:38 -!- claude is now known as Claude 2013-07-28T17:45:06 -!- DanteA [~X@host-237-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T17:46:37 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T17:51:41 < Laurenceb_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NlhIuJ-y8k&feature=player_embedded 2013-07-28T17:58:01 -!- thetooth [~thetooth@27-33-38-113.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-07-28T17:59:13 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T18:05:19 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.15] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T18:10:04 -!- effractur [~Erik@ip5454c44d.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T18:47:31 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T18:50:14 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T18:51:21 < Laurenceb_> anyone know what a flat flex Berg connector is? 2013-07-28T18:52:15 < Laurenceb_> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/65801-010LF/609-2166-ND/1002481 2013-07-28T18:52:17 < Laurenceb_> that? 2013-07-28T18:52:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T18:52:27 -!- espiral [~maze@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T18:53:15 < Laurenceb_> so it mates with a 0.1" pin header? 2013-07-28T18:59:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T19:00:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:01:55 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@144.sub-75-244-149.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:02:31 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-28T19:10:48 <+Steffanx> Thorn, you know what makes this stuff from that fotoopa even more impressive ( imho at least ) 2013-07-28T19:10:55 <+Steffanx> The fact that he is 70 years old 2013-07-28T19:11:21 <+Steffanx> And that he as a wife limiting his budget :P 2013-07-28T19:11:45 < Thorn> I read on eevblog that he was retired. didn't know he was *that* retired 2013-07-28T19:11:56 < Thorn> if you know what I mean 2013-07-28T19:12:30 <+Steffanx> I don't know when people retire in soviet russia, but here they retire ~65 nowadays :) 2013-07-28T19:12:55 < Thorn> otoh there's a guy about the same age who wrote some of the best russian language verilog / cpu design tutorials I've seen 2013-07-28T19:13:41 <+Steffanx> Too bad it's in russian 2013-07-28T19:13:55 < Thorn> and retirement age is 60 m /55 f 2013-07-28T19:15:42 <+Steffanx> It's nice to see his 3d photos 2013-07-28T19:15:54 <+Steffanx> It gives me a head ache after a while though 2013-07-28T19:17:17 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:18:19 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T19:20:01 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:21:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T19:26:34 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:26:35 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.230] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:30:17 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:42:03 < arnonh> they are amazing even without being 3D 2013-07-28T19:44:52 <+Steffanx> of course 2013-07-28T19:45:08 <+Steffanx> You can see them in 3d? Some people can't do it :) 2013-07-28T19:46:01 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T19:47:35 < arnonh> it hurts too much :-) 2013-07-28T19:53:14 < Thorn> causes of UAV losses: engine problems 37%, control failures 25%, operator errors 17%, communications problems 11%, other 10% 2013-07-28T20:00:02 <+Steffanx> 63.6% of all statistics are made up Thorn? :P 2013-07-28T20:01:05 < Thorn> 42 2013-07-28T20:18:42 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T20:20:15 < Laurenceb_> http://24.media.tumblr.com/4249a493e73bac1d5642b8acf1d8791a/tumblr_mkzyj43SO61rk27a8o2_500.gif 2013-07-28T20:21:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T20:21:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-28T20:22:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T20:22:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@75-128-35-99.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-28T20:22:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T20:23:31 -!- DanteA [~X@host-121-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T20:24:43 <+Steffanx> [11:40:08] it does get tedious 2013-07-28T20:25:10 <+Steffanx> [15:06:39] primary school is that way -> 2013-07-28T20:37:33 < emeb_mac> you have to wonder how utterly bored someone has to be to invest the time in creating an animation like that. 2013-07-28T20:37:50 < gxti> i.e. a student 2013-07-28T20:37:58 < Laurenceb_> its "Art" 2013-07-28T20:38:09 < emeb_mac> *nod* 2013-07-28T20:38:30 < emeb_mac> how much human progress can be attributed to someone who is bored just screwing around? 2013-07-28T20:38:46 < zyp> heh 2013-07-28T20:39:21 <+Steffanx> i dont think you want to know emeb_mac 2013-07-28T20:39:40 < emeb_mac> Steffanx: I think I can guess. 2013-07-28T20:40:10 < gxti> ten. ten progresses. 2013-07-28T20:40:19 < Laurenceb_> ubuntu edge funding is dropping off 2013-07-28T20:40:23 < zyp> ten whole progresses?! 2013-07-28T20:40:31 < emeb_mac> *shocked* 2013-07-28T20:41:03 < Laurenceb_> bet they get $10M 2013-07-28T20:41:12 <+Steffanx> You care/ 2013-07-28T20:41:14 <+Steffanx> ? 2013-07-28T20:41:18 < gxti> he cares enough to keep checking 2013-07-28T20:42:02 < zyp> wish I had motivation to make some progresses, feels like I've just been wasting time lately 2013-07-28T20:42:26 <+Steffanx> Go go zyp. Go go zyp 2013-07-28T20:42:40 -!- DanteA [~X@host-121-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-28T20:42:53 < gxti> here's what i've accomplished so far today: http://partiallystapled.com/~gxti/circuits/2013/07/28-minitest.png 2013-07-28T20:42:56 < gxti> beat that zyp 2013-07-28T20:43:01 * Laurenceb_ is making a high speed linear actuator 2013-07-28T20:43:24 < zyp> gxti, hardcore 2013-07-28T20:43:31 <+Steffanx> At least you made a 3d render gxti 2013-07-28T20:43:43 < gxti> yeah i had to push the '3' key really hard to make that 2013-07-28T20:45:43 < emeb_mac> what sw is that? 2013-07-28T20:45:59 < gxti> altium 2013-07-28T20:46:05 < emeb_mac> thotso 2013-07-28T20:46:40 < emeb_mac> like how you tweaked the colors to look like OSHpark 2013-07-28T20:48:27 < emeb_mac> here's something about the same I did a while back: http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/pmod_adapter/index.html 2013-07-28T20:50:32 <+Steffanx> also in oshpark style 2013-07-28T20:50:46 < emeb_mac> heh 2013-07-28T20:51:07 < emeb_mac> oshpark rules all now that BatchPCB has been assimilated. 2013-07-28T20:51:21 < emeb_mac> if you ignore seeedstudio I guess... 2013-07-28T20:51:29 < gxti> yeah, dirt cheap chinapcbs 2013-07-28T20:51:54 < Laurenceb_> itead does flexi 2013-07-28T20:52:10 < arnonh> i live happily with the chinapcb 2013-07-28T20:52:13 < emeb_mac> buddy of mine sent in a design to oshpark last sunday. got the shipping notice on friday. 2013-07-28T20:52:46 < emeb_mac> should have the boards in hand tomorrow. 8 day turnaround - not bad. 2013-07-28T20:52:59 < arnonh> thay are the only one's that have normal shiping prices here 2013-07-28T20:54:08 < arnonh> *shipping to here 2013-07-28T20:54:35 < emeb_mac> cool flexi 2013-07-28T20:55:08 < emeb_mac> 10pcs 5x5cm for $65 2013-07-28T20:55:22 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2013-07-28T20:55:35 < Laurenceb_> going to use them for my next project 2013-07-28T21:05:27 -!- Sync__ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-28T21:06:18 -!- Sync_ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:10:33 -!- vpopov [~happylife@dyn-82-151.fttbee.kis.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:11:13 < Laurenceb_> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/world-dwarf-games 2013-07-28T21:11:19 < Laurenceb_> this just sounds wrong 2013-07-28T21:11:41 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:12:18 < Laurenceb_> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/9-arduino-compatible-starter-kit-anyone-can-learn-electronics 2013-07-28T21:12:20 < Laurenceb_> lolling 2013-07-28T21:14:30 -!- Sync_ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T21:15:20 -!- Sync_ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:27:54 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@109.48.126.100] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:29:30 -!- Claude is now known as claude 2013-07-28T21:30:50 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:33:24 -!- vpopov [~happylife@dyn-82-151.fttbee.kis.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-28T21:38:13 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@109.48.126.100] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-28T21:39:32 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a94-133-230-253.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:43:06 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-28T21:51:35 < Tectu> Laurenceb, are you there? 2013-07-28T21:51:36 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, ^ 2013-07-28T21:52:53 -!- PT_Dreamer__ [~quassel@109.48.126.100] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T21:53:03 < Laurenceb_> yes 2013-07-28T21:53:48 < Tectu> what happened there in the UK? They forbid porn? 2013-07-28T21:53:58 < Laurenceb_> yup 2013-07-28T21:54:22 < Tectu> how/why 2013-07-28T21:54:29 < Tectu> is it just the illegal stuff or completely? 2013-07-28T21:54:35 < Tectu> and just internet or what? 2013-07-28T21:54:53 < Laurenceb_> you need to prove you are over 18 etc 2013-07-28T21:54:59 < Laurenceb_> for internet 2013-07-28T21:54:59 < zippe> It's more than just 'porn', it's "anything the govt doesn't want you to see" 2013-07-28T21:55:10 < zippe> Plus now they keep records of everything 2013-07-28T21:55:11 < Laurenceb_> and sign up to a list... 2013-07-28T21:55:20 < Laurenceb_> then they will "turn off your filter" 2013-07-28T21:55:22 < zippe> searchable, subpoena-able records 2013-07-28T21:55:44 < Laurenceb_> i dont care 2013-07-28T21:55:44 < Tectu> what the hel... 2013-07-28T21:55:46 < Tectu> why? 2013-07-28T21:55:49 < Tectu> why do you do such things? 2013-07-28T21:55:51 < Laurenceb_> i just VPN into NHS network 2013-07-28T21:56:01 < Laurenceb_> there i can do anything 2013-07-28T21:56:13 < zippe> Because it's a way to control people 2013-07-28T21:56:16 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a94-133-230-253.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T21:56:28 < Tectu> I thought british people were smart... 2013-07-28T21:56:36 < Laurenceb_> they are 2013-07-28T21:56:42 < Laurenceb_> smart enough to use VPN :P 2013-07-28T21:56:48 < Tectu> when was that time the entire world decided to become dumb? 2013-07-28T21:57:10 < Laurenceb_> since forever? 2013-07-28T21:57:11 -!- PT_Dreamer__ [~quassel@109.48.126.100] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T21:57:21 < zippe> People in large groups have always been dumb 2013-07-28T21:57:25 < zippe> see also "creation science" 2013-07-28T21:57:42 < Tectu> so it's really the goverment that prevents you from watching porn? 2013-07-28T21:58:00 < Laurenceb_> well they forces the ISPs to sign up 2013-07-28T21:58:07 < Laurenceb_> to avoid going via parliament 2013-07-28T21:58:30 < Tectu> is it an etical thing or like the anti-egoshooter thing in germany because it helps spree killers? 2013-07-28T21:58:48 < Tectu> or is it just the payed stuff or also those free porn websites? 2013-07-28T21:59:02 < Laurenceb_> its to avoid corrupting children 2013-07-28T21:59:23 < Laurenceb_> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/27/0051224/uk-isp-filter-will-censor-more-than-porn 2013-07-28T21:59:28 < zippe> The government acting as the agent of various religions and individuals that stand to profit 2013-07-28T21:59:36 < Laurenceb_> " esoteric material " 2013-07-28T21:59:37 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-28T21:59:48 < Tectu> Laurenceb, "to avoid corrupting children" shouldn't that be the job of parents? 2013-07-28T21:59:50 < Laurenceb_> thats everything i do then 2013-07-28T21:59:52 < Laurenceb_> yup 2013-07-28T21:59:58 < Tectu> so why that way then? 2013-07-28T21:59:59 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a94-133-230-253.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T22:00:27 < Tectu> I really don't like that... 2013-07-28T22:00:33 < Tectu> I mean it's not that I care that I cannot watch porn 2013-07-28T22:00:39 < Tectu> it's more like the wrong way to handle a problem 2013-07-28T22:00:46 < Tectu> get the damn parents doing their fucking job right 2013-07-28T22:00:46 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2013-07-28T22:01:00 < zippe> "for the childrens" is just an excuse … they pick it because it's hard to argue against in a soudbite 2013-07-28T22:01:22 < Tectu> I now, I don't have children and I don't want to offend anyone in here who has, but seriously, it cannot be that hard... just be a little interested into your child and things will turn out well 2013-07-28T22:01:39 < Tectu> zippe, you're from the UK too, when I might ask? 2013-07-28T22:01:45 < Tectu> also, what's the real thing behind it then? 2013-07-28T22:01:57 < Tectu> I mean if it's to ban the heavy duty illegal stuff - you won't reach it that way as well 2013-07-28T22:02:01 < Tectu> (imo) 2013-07-28T22:02:40 < Laurenceb_> fun fact: most government networks have no filtering at all 2013-07-28T22:02:49 < Laurenceb_> you just need a way to VPN into one 2013-07-28T22:03:16 < zippe> tectu: not from the UK, no 2013-07-28T22:03:29 < zippe> the real reason is simply control 2013-07-28T22:03:43 < zippe> anything pro-ignorance is pro-religion, pro-exploitation 2013-07-28T22:04:15 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, why should anyone want/let you VPN into a goverment network? 2013-07-28T22:04:18 < Tectu> zippe, that's just wrong. 2013-07-28T22:04:29 < Tectu> zippe, it's not a nice thing to do 2013-07-28T22:04:37 < zippe> in the guise of blocking pron, you can block any and all information about sexuality, abortion, euthenasia, etc. 2013-07-28T22:04:45 < Tectu> if you keep your people happy, then there's no reason for them to freak out - that's about it. 2013-07-28T22:04:55 < zippe> tectu: the world is a bad place, run by bad people. Your point? 2013-07-28T22:04:58 < Tectu> if you start controlling them, taking away their freedom, they will start bith around. 2013-07-28T22:05:11 < Tectu> zippe, yes, yet no reason to make it worse 2013-07-28T22:05:22 < Tectu> especially in countries that didn't do that bad like the UK until now (imo again) 2013-07-28T22:05:31 < zippe> "worse" is subjective 2013-07-28T22:06:02 < Tectu> if you start attacking your folks freedom, it is getting worse from a sane, modern and democratic point of view. 2013-07-28T22:06:22 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: because they are incompetent 2013-07-28T22:06:37 < Laurenceb_> i was just giving one ironic example of a workaround 2013-07-28T22:07:01 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, this would be another? http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5b2XE_460s_v4.jpg 2013-07-28T22:07:16 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-28T22:07:44 < Tectu> I would never have met my girlfriend and have a happy relation ship if there wouldn't be pron 2013-07-28T22:07:46 < Tectu> porn* 2013-07-28T22:07:57 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a94-133-230-253.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-28T22:08:03 < Tectu> but that's probably nothing for here 2013-07-28T22:08:45 <+Steffanx> *gfx Tectu 2013-07-28T22:08:48 < Laurenceb_> wut 2013-07-28T22:08:59 < Tectu> Steffanx, stfu 2013-07-28T22:09:00 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: your gf is a pron star? 2013-07-28T22:09:03 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, no 2013-07-28T22:09:12 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, it was not meant that way 2013-07-28T22:09:16 < Tectu> I should just stfu 2013-07-28T22:09:18 < Laurenceb_> lolz 2013-07-28T22:09:23 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@109.48.126.100] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T22:10:02 < Tectu> anyway, thanks for the heads up 2013-07-28T22:10:17 < Tectu> (heads up is a correct term here, no?) 2013-07-28T22:15:33 < Laurenceb_> Tectu lives at bunny ranch? 2013-07-28T22:16:26 < Tectu> no 2013-07-28T22:33:39 -!- DanteA [~X@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T22:33:39 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-28T22:34:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T22:40:09 -!- DanteA [~X@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-28T22:47:16 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@109.48.126.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-28T23:01:35 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:13:32 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-28T23:15:30 -!- alexn [~alexn@2a02:810d:15c0:84e:d934:5224:f873:3900] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:19:11 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:21:16 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-28T23:22:10 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-28T23:26:45 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-28T23:26:48 -!- alexn [~alexn@2a02:810d:15c0:84e:d934:5224:f873:3900] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-28T23:27:00 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:36:50 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-28T23:40:43 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:46:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.208.30] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:47:09 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-28T23:50:56 < Laurenceb_> oops 2013-07-28T23:51:15 < Laurenceb_> ubuntu edge rate of increase is now too low to meet the 32M 2013-07-28T23:52:06 < mervaka> surprised? 2013-07-28T23:52:27 < mervaka> news coverage that i read told everyone it's a crap investment 2013-07-28T23:57:48 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-28T23:59:09 < upgrdman> ubuntu is a publicly traded corp? --- Day changed Mon Jul 29 2013 2013-07-29T00:03:37 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:05:25 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-29T00:06:06 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T00:07:10 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:08:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.208.30] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T00:10:52 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-29T00:15:47 < gxti> no 2013-07-29T00:22:40 -!- HTT-Bird [~Birdz0r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-29T00:34:07 -!- HTT-Bird [~Birdz0r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:34:16 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T00:37:26 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:37:49 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T00:38:02 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:41:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.135.1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:47:27 < emeb_mac> interesting teardown / exploit of Google Chromecast: http://wiki.gtvhacker.com/index.php/Google_Chromecast 2013-07-29T00:47:47 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:48:39 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T00:52:15 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-29T00:58:29 < Laurenceb_> ha, rooted! 2013-07-29T01:06:37 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.230] has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 2013-07-29T01:07:05 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@77.67.159.30] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T01:10:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.135.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T01:13:50 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T01:20:32 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidaciousMBR] 2013-07-29T01:22:08 < emeb_mac> that didn't take long. 2013-07-29T01:27:53 < gxti> doesn't look very devious, if you can boot unsigned kernels just by plugging in a usb stick 2013-07-29T01:28:51 < zyp> interesting that it acts as host and not device 2013-07-29T01:28:53 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T01:29:12 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T01:29:45 < gxti> well yeah, usb otg 2013-07-29T01:30:43 < zyp> maybe the SoC is designed for media players and similar stuff, which has host ports for loading media, and therefore ships with a host mode bootloader 2013-07-29T01:31:56 < gxti> i'm pretty sure the bootloader was deliberately put there by google so you could run your own stuff 2013-07-29T01:32:24 < gxti> maybe the "exploit" is that once you do that it's not supposed to be trusted, and the exploit tricks it into running normally? i don't know 2013-07-29T01:32:38 < zyp> why host mode and not plain fastboot then? 2013-07-29T01:32:55 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@77.67.159.30] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T01:33:14 < gxti> because usb is the only port on the thing that an average luser could use to load software? i don't know what you're asking 2013-07-29T01:33:20 < zyp> the hardware is obviously not designed for host mode, since that usb port is the only power _input_ 2013-07-29T01:33:41 < zyp> so I don't believe your theory :) 2013-07-29T01:34:30 < gxti> i don't know what you find so hard to believe about a google device allowing custom software, chromebooks work the same way although they have a hard switch to have to flip that wipes the device before booting your crapware 2013-07-29T01:35:22 < zyp> I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that if it were designed to be open, it doesn't make sense to use anything other than fastboot 2013-07-29T01:35:51 < gxti> i'm not familiar with fastboot 2013-07-29T01:36:01 < zyp> it's the standard android usb bootloader stuff 2013-07-29T01:36:44 < gxti> who knows, maybe it does both. looks like fastboot requires installing shit on your pc so maybe the h4x0rz figure flash drive is easier. 2013-07-29T01:36:51 < zyp> unless you buy an android phone from a vendor that insists on doing their own weird shit, that's what your phone will have 2013-07-29T01:37:09 < emeb_mac> ie samsung kies? 2013-07-29T01:37:20 < zyp> I'm not familiar with samsung 2013-07-29T01:38:07 < emeb_mac> my dad has a gII - there this huge support software stack installed on his win7 system with background tasks etc to talk to the phone. 2013-07-29T01:38:55 < emeb_mac> don't know what all it does, but it seems overblown. 2013-07-29T01:39:12 < gxti> also zyp looks like it can draw power from HDMI if it's adequate 2013-07-29T01:39:38 < zyp> really? I thought HDMI didn't provide power 2013-07-29T01:39:49 < gxti> The power adapter is an optional requirement. In fact, most modern TV's with HDMI 1.4 or higher spec are supported. The Chromecast can draw power from the HDMI port it's plugged into. If your TV doesn't support that, there's also a USB cable and power adapter included in the box. I have a 2012 LG LED and a 2013 Lenovo 27" Monitor with HDMI input and the ports power it with no cable. 2013-07-29T01:40:37 < emeb_mac> weird 2013-07-29T01:41:10 < gxti> not sure why it was originally part of the spec, doubt they foresaw "hdmi sticks" but maybe for active cables 2013-07-29T01:41:24 < zyp> I mean, I think HDMI is like DP, in providing a small amount of power for electronics in active cables, but no usable amount for stuff like this 2013-07-29T01:43:06 < zyp> wikipedia says max 50mA 2013-07-29T01:44:37 < emeb_mac> not much 2013-07-29T01:47:08 < zyp> either way it's irrelevant to my point 2013-07-29T01:48:11 < emeb_mac> my old vizio TV has a usb A port on the back. No explanation of what it's for. wonder if it provides power? 2013-07-29T01:48:51 < gxti> zyp: i don't think they had "easy to hack" as a design goal, just that "impenetrable signed-code security" was not on the feature list 2013-07-29T01:49:18 < zyp> gxti, that much I can agree with :) 2013-07-29T01:49:24 < zyp> emeb_mac, does it play media from usb sticks? 2013-07-29T01:49:39 < emeb_mac> zyp: not that I know of. 2013-07-29T01:49:44 < zyp> if not, that feature is just not enabled in your software ;) 2013-07-29T01:49:45 < emeb_mac> No menu items for such. 2013-07-29T01:50:07 < zyp> my tv is the same, I bought one of the cheapest models 2013-07-29T01:50:09 < emeb_mac> there's some text in the manual about "used only for factory purpose" 2013-07-29T01:50:21 < emeb_mac> ya - same here. 2013-07-29T01:50:27 < emeb_mac> engineers - cheapskates. 2013-07-29T01:50:37 < gxti> not cheap enough -- i don't have one at all 2013-07-29T01:50:40 < zyp> yeah, it probably also has some bootloader stuff 2013-07-29T01:50:57 < zyp> that's why I suspect they used that kind of SoC 2013-07-29T01:50:57 < emeb_mac> gxti: that probably frees up a lot of time 2013-07-29T01:51:10 < gxti> ha, right 2013-07-29T01:51:23 < gxti> no i find other, not-at-all-more-productive ways to waste time 2013-07-29T01:51:43 < emeb_mac> web surfing 2013-07-29T01:51:52 < zyp> I use the usb port on my tv to drive an ssr from vbus, that way I can turn on my speakers when the tv turns on :) 2013-07-29T01:52:08 < emeb_mac> ooh - good idea. 2013-07-29T01:52:55 < emeb_mac> a good amp + speakers would be nice - took me a couple months to get used to the tinny sound. 2013-07-29T01:53:07 < zyp> I just got a couple of active speakers 2013-07-29T01:53:55 < emeb_mac> I was appalled last week - my parents have a huge samsung TV that sounds even worse than my vizio. 2013-07-29T01:54:04 < emeb_mac> no response below about 500Hz 2013-07-29T01:54:26 < gxti> flat panel, flat speakers, flat sound 2013-07-29T01:54:39 < emeb_mac> I guess everyone is supposed to buy "sound bars" now. 2013-07-29T01:54:46 < zyp> or surround systems 2013-07-29T01:54:53 < emeb_mac> in addition to the >$1k TV 2013-07-29T01:55:23 < zyp> my tv was <$1k actually 2013-07-29T01:55:30 < zyp> including norwegian taxes 2013-07-29T01:55:51 < emeb_mac> mine was < $500, but it's only 720 and 32" 2013-07-29T01:56:02 < emeb_mac> and about 5 yrs old now. 2013-07-29T01:56:15 < upgrdman> i dont recall ever having a tv with good audio 2013-07-29T01:56:26 < zyp> ah, mine is two years old, 50" 2013-07-29T01:56:47 < zyp> only ever used it as a computer monitor :p 2013-07-29T01:56:58 < emeb_mac> does it have a tuner? 2013-07-29T01:57:28 < zyp> yeah, but I never hooked it up 2013-07-29T01:57:43 < emeb_mac> ATSC broadcast here in the US is pretty good, if you live in an area with service. 2013-07-29T01:57:51 < zyp> cable outlet is on the other side of the room, and I'm not interested in norwegian tv anyway 2013-07-29T01:58:04 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T01:58:26 < zyp> I don't like the idea of having to watch something when it airs 2013-07-29T01:58:38 < emeb_mac> there's that. 2013-07-29T01:59:00 < emeb_mac> surprised that HD recorders that aren't subcription based haven't become more widely available. 2013-07-29T01:59:22 < zyp> nah, it's outdated tech anyway 2013-07-29T01:59:41 < emeb_mac> ya - everyone just streams from the web I guess. 2013-07-29T01:59:47 < zyp> why would I have to record a copy myself when I can just download/stream a copy? 2013-07-29T01:59:57 < gxti> it's really difficult to do anything content related due to all the people who want a piece of the pie 2013-07-29T02:00:32 < gxti> just because it's technically simple (record shit from the open-air broadcast) doesn't mean you won't start getting phone calls from lawyers 2013-07-29T02:00:44 < emeb_mac> no doubt 2013-07-29T02:01:07 < emeb_mac> it's great that we have so much sand in the gears of progress... 2013-07-29T02:01:40 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@a95-93-146-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T02:01:51 < gxti> i can't entirely rule out that they might be doing something useful for society, but i'm sure it's much less than what they're getting paid for. 2013-07-29T02:02:21 < emeb_mac> :) 2013-07-29T02:03:52 < zyp> actually, on paper my tv doesn't have a tuner anymore 2013-07-29T02:04:23 < zyp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRK#Financing <- because of that 2013-07-29T02:05:04 < emeb_mac> ah - your tv is a monitor. 2013-07-29T02:05:13 < emeb_mac> only 2013-07-29T02:05:28 < zyp> well, that's what I use it for 2013-07-29T02:06:04 < emeb_mac> taxing receivers. socialism. :) 2013-07-29T02:06:31 < emeb_mac> (for some reason "socialism" is derogatory in the US) 2013-07-29T02:07:05 < zyp> when NRK started nagging me about the licence fee I took it to a shop to «have the tuner removed», which in practice is implemented by unsoldering the antenna connector :p 2013-07-29T02:07:48 < emeb_mac> they give you a document that you can use as proof against the tax? 2013-07-29T02:08:00 < zyp> yes 2013-07-29T02:08:06 < emeb_mac> cool 2013-07-29T02:08:49 < Lt_Lemming> our TV doesn't have anything other than HDMI and Composite video plugged into it 2013-07-29T02:08:59 < Lt_Lemming> no cable/antenna 2013-07-29T02:09:03 < Lt_Lemming> not worth it here 2013-07-29T02:09:21 < Lt_Lemming> free to air is shit, cable is FAR too expensive here and all the decent channels are addons 2013-07-29T02:09:23 < emeb_mac> do they tax for audio rx too? 2013-07-29T02:09:53 < zyp> I wouldn't really mind paying for NRK, they make the best online news in norway, it's just that the way they go about it is so silly 2013-07-29T02:10:22 < emeb_mac> which is...? 2013-07-29T02:11:15 < zyp> owning a device capable of receiving tv broadcasts means you should pay the annual fee, regardless of you using it or not 2013-07-29T02:11:35 < zyp> and that's all 2013-07-29T02:11:44 < zyp> radio and internet services are not affected 2013-07-29T02:12:02 < Lt_Lemming> here there is nothing like that 2013-07-29T02:12:48 < zyp> and they even stream the tv channels on internet for free, so nothing prevents me from legally connecting my no longer tv to a computer, and streaming those same channels that I would have to pay to be able to receive over the air 2013-07-29T02:14:27 < zyp> they even have on-demand archives of older broadcasts online, which means that if I wanted to watch something that aired earlier now, for free 2013-07-29T02:15:13 < zyp> I could* 2013-07-29T02:16:17 < emeb_mac> so basically, their fee collection process hasn't caught up with the 21st cen. 2013-07-29T02:16:28 < zyp> yeah 2013-07-29T02:16:38 < zyp> I just checked, the law regulating this is from 1980 2013-07-29T02:18:11 < emeb_mac> Ancien! :) 2013-07-29T02:18:28 < emeb_mac> +t 2013-07-29T02:21:26 < zyp> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lovdata.no%2Ffor%2Fsf%2Fku%2Fxu-19801023-8798.html <- enjoy :p 2013-07-29T02:23:49 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-29T02:24:25 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 2013-07-29T02:26:37 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T02:49:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.repraper.com/ 2013-07-29T02:49:25 < Laurenceb_> this sounds a bit rapey 2013-07-29T02:50:50 < emeb_mac> shoulda maybe spelled it with one more "p" 2013-07-29T02:51:42 < Laurenceb_> almost sounds like they are saying something about their prices 2013-07-29T02:56:49 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-29T03:21:58 -!- BJfreeman [~bjfree@144.sub-75-244-149.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T03:58:01 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T05:12:40 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-29T05:12:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T05:13:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T05:15:13 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T05:43:36 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T05:45:51 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T05:57:54 -!- Avi [~Avi@c122-107-128-37.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T05:57:55 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T05:58:44 < Avi> i must set the usart rx pin in alternate function pull push mode?! O_O? why? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IZZF35T7y3MJ:https://my.st.com/public/STe2ecommunities/mcu/Lists/cortex_mx_stm32/AllItems.aspx%3FRootFolder%3D%252Fpublic%252FSTe2ecommunities%252Fmcu%252FLists%252Fcortex_mx_stm32%252FUART%2520initialisation+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=safari 2013-07-29T06:02:12 < qyx_> no, see the basic io port diagram somewhere in reference manual 2013-07-29T06:02:49 < R2COM> or just try it out without that mode and see if it works :) 2013-07-29T06:08:43 < Avi> well, i got tjhe pin set as inpur node and no AF number set (is setting an AF and in input mode even valid?) 2013-07-29T06:09:05 < Avi> *the pin set as input mode 2013-07-29T06:12:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-29T06:14:16 -!- HTT-Bird [~Birdz0r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T06:15:16 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-89-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:19:27 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T06:24:28 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-29T06:27:31 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-238-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:28:22 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T06:28:36 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:29:45 -!- HTT-Bird [~Birdz0r@unaffiliated/htt-bird] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:34:01 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:37:24 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T06:37:40 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:37:45 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T06:45:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-29T06:45:32 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:48:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:50:07 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:52:43 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:53:24 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-29T06:55:21 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T06:57:25 < dongs> supp 2013-07-29T06:57:53 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T06:58:40 < qyx_> 40C forecast for today 2013-07-29T07:00:10 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-29T07:05:21 < ttmrichter> qyx_: Wow! You're beating my forecast by 2 degrees. :-o 2013-07-29T07:05:41 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T07:13:57 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T07:42:14 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-89-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-29T07:43:45 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-161-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T07:47:13 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-161-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-29T07:47:33 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T07:55:50 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T07:55:52 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v Steffanx] by ChanServ 2013-07-29T07:58:14 -!- Avi [~Avi@c122-107-128-37.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-29T07:59:49 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T08:05:04 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-57-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T08:16:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-29T08:16:49 < emeb_mac> 40C? In Central Europe? Nah - no climate change here. 2013-07-29T08:23:19 < dongs> who killed the chats 2013-07-29T08:23:23 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T08:23:24 < qyx_> they say we may beat the 40.3 record today 2013-07-29T08:27:42 < R2COM> I dont give a damn to weather 2013-07-29T08:28:06 < R2COM> you are like old people 2013-07-29T08:32:47 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/IDT71P73604S200BQ/IDT71P73604S200BQ-ND/2011722 2013-07-29T08:33:42 < qyx_> induction sram? 2013-07-29T08:34:11 < dongs> yeaman. 2013-07-29T08:34:25 < R2COM> actually dont those rc 3 phase motors have 2013-07-29T08:34:26 < R2COM> hmmm 2013-07-29T08:34:30 < R2COM> speaker in them or what 2013-07-29T08:34:34 < R2COM> I remember hearing sounds from it 2013-07-29T08:34:35 < R2COM> lol 2013-07-29T08:34:54 < qyx_> speaker? huh 2013-07-29T08:35:02 < jpa-> motors make sound without speakers, also :) 2013-07-29T08:35:05 < R2COM> I dont know 2013-07-29T08:35:11 < R2COM> so 2013-07-29T08:35:17 < R2COM> something like that 2013-07-29T08:35:27 < R2COM> I heard some primitive sounds there 2013-07-29T08:35:41 < R2COM> like pi pi pi pi pi...beeeee 2013-07-29T08:35:45 < qyx_> if you connect it to normal amplifier it would play sound 2013-07-29T08:36:10 < qyx_> as it is the same coil and magnet like speaker is 2013-07-29T08:40:07 -!- DanteA [~X@host-79-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T08:40:28 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T08:45:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T08:46:24 -!- claude is now known as Claude 2013-07-29T08:54:16 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T08:55:26 < baird> 'disk drive music', etc. 2013-07-29T08:57:20 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.67.230] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T09:13:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T09:16:53 -!- Claude is now known as claude 2013-07-29T09:23:37 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh809211419.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2013-07-29T09:28:21 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-29T09:36:51 < emeb_mac> disk drive "music" 2013-07-29T09:37:33 < R2COM> trolls are bored :P 2013-07-29T09:38:02 < emeb_mac> *yawn* 2013-07-29T09:39:31 < emeb_mac> I picked up one of those three-phase inductive motors a long time ago. 2013-07-29T09:39:51 < emeb_mac> built a driver for it with some simple 7400 logic. 2013-07-29T09:40:06 -!- Luggi09 [~luke@cnh809211419.pppoe.surfer.cnh.at] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T09:40:07 < emeb_mac> problem is that the driver is open-loop. 2013-07-29T09:40:48 < emeb_mac> for closed-loop control you need some rotor position sensing. I guess modern stuff uses back-EMF. 2013-07-29T09:41:20 < R2COM> wait 2013-07-29T09:41:23 < R2COM> what you mean driver? 2013-07-29T09:41:49 < R2COM> that motor is 3 sine wave motor, you need a .. hmm 6 chan control for it 2013-07-29T09:41:53 < R2COM> 3 for highside 2013-07-29T09:41:56 < R2COM> and 3 for low side 2013-07-29T09:41:59 < R2COM> and 6 power mosfets 2013-07-29T09:42:03 < emeb_mac> right 2013-07-29T09:42:04 < R2COM> (and possibly driver for mosfets) 2013-07-29T09:42:12 < emeb_mac> and some logic to sequence the phases. 2013-07-29T09:42:18 < R2COM> well stm32 has one 2013-07-29T09:42:22 < emeb_mac> sure 2013-07-29T09:42:26 < R2COM> ah 2013-07-29T09:42:27 < R2COM> you mean 2013-07-29T09:42:28 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T09:42:30 < emeb_mac> but I did this 30 years ago. 2013-07-29T09:42:30 < R2COM> no feedback? 2013-07-29T09:42:52 < R2COM> I did it like... 90 years ago 2013-07-29T09:42:54 < emeb_mac> right - had to be very careful about how fast I ramped i upt. 2013-07-29T09:43:03 < R2COM> :D 2013-07-29T09:43:16 < emeb_mac> can't top that. 2013-07-29T09:43:27 < R2COM> what I think is 2013-07-29T09:43:32 < R2COM> most those amateur tards stuff 2013-07-29T09:43:36 < R2COM> using simple 6-step PWM for it 2013-07-29T09:43:44 < R2COM> what makes sine waves not so smooth 2013-07-29T09:43:50 < R2COM> which leads to lost efficiency 2013-07-29T09:44:07 < R2COM> I guess with a nice controller (with many steps, finer values) waves are smoother 2013-07-29T09:44:20 < R2COM> it should help, and if I am correct even save power 2013-07-29T09:44:32 < emeb_mac> you could do it PWM I suppose 2013-07-29T09:44:40 < R2COM> I know its PWM anyhow 2013-07-29T09:44:58 < R2COM> I mean pwm timed in such a way that waves are way smoother measured at motor phase 2013-07-29T09:45:07 < emeb_mac> yep 2013-07-29T09:45:25 < R2COM> but that requires more resources, and more storage areas for LUT tables 2013-07-29T09:45:36 < R2COM> maybe thats why they dont do it...to save $$ on cheap uC's 2013-07-29T09:45:44 < emeb_mac> I have another 3-phase motor from a laser scanner - hex mirror driver. 2013-07-29T09:46:00 < emeb_mac> that has hall-effect feedback built in. Much easier to control 2013-07-29T09:46:00 < R2COM> I think I wrote once emulation program 2013-07-29T09:46:02 < R2COM> in C 2013-07-29T09:46:06 < R2COM> for PC 2013-07-29T09:46:16 < R2COM> user enters different parameters for speed/freq 2013-07-29T09:46:23 < R2COM> and it spits out proper stimulus in .txt format 2013-07-29T09:46:28 < R2COM> which is loaded in LTspice 2013-07-29T09:46:36 < R2COM> and there I could observe my waveforms 2013-07-29T09:46:38 < emeb_mac> cool 2013-07-29T09:46:46 < R2COM> but damn i cant find it... 2013-07-29T09:46:47 < emeb_mac> well - bedtime. 2013-07-29T09:46:52 < emeb_mac> gn 2013-07-29T09:46:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-29T09:46:55 < R2COM> i postponed it since it was just fun thing.. 2013-07-29T09:52:40 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T09:54:29 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.46.148] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T09:54:32 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar_] by ChanServ 2013-07-29T09:58:40 -!- dekar [~dekar@212.255.35.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T10:15:32 < dongs> http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4017/4517719623_44c2ef61b3_o.jpg "guys" 2013-07-29T10:19:57 < scrts> :)) 2013-07-29T10:21:33 < R2COM> let me see what that picture is 2013-07-29T10:21:41 < R2COM> I assume it will be picture of some faggots 2013-07-29T10:21:50 < R2COM> doing something stupid 2013-07-29T10:21:54 < R2COM> now let me click and see 2013-07-29T10:22:04 < R2COM> oh 2013-07-29T10:22:10 < R2COM> haha 2013-07-29T10:22:27 < R2COM> whast that 2013-07-29T10:22:29 < R2COM> epoxy? 2013-07-29T10:28:42 < dongs> i duno but chip sounds cool 2013-07-29T10:33:30 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T10:34:54 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T10:46:50 -!- DanteA [~X@host-79-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T10:50:38 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T10:51:04 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-57-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-29T11:04:39 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T11:10:51 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T11:16:45 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107.221.62.129] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T11:20:27 -!- DanteA [~X@host-15-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T11:30:20 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-29T11:36:30 -!- R2COM1 [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T11:40:05 -!- R2COM [~blackops@c-98-230-217-221.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-29T11:40:40 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107.221.62.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T11:42:40 < R2COM1> wheres blogging 2013-07-29T11:42:47 -!- R2COM1 is now known as R2COM 2013-07-29T11:52:47 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@87.69.235.119] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T11:53:57 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T11:56:53 -!- TeknoJuce [~TeknoJuce@xbmc/staff/TeknoJuce] has quit [Quit: The g33k's are in the house OMGosh! 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https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/ 2013-07-29T13:14:22 < dongs> haha 2013-07-29T13:14:31 < dongs> Laurenceb: saw that yesterday 2013-07-29T13:14:33 < dongs> looks like some chink site 2013-07-29T13:16:06 < Laurenceb> " This effectively turns Linux into Windows" 2013-07-29T13:16:34 < Laurenceb> self trolled 2013-07-29T13:18:30 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-249-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T13:19:23 -!- DanteA [~X@host-15-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-29T13:25:12 < dongs> haha 2013-07-29T13:28:06 <+Steffanx> hoho 2013-07-29T13:28:48 < Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU 2013-07-29T13:31:00 <+Steffanx> I'm glad i never watched Austin Powers 2013-07-29T13:31:17 < Laurenceb> Dr Evil is pretty funny 2013-07-29T13:31:31 < Laurenceb> Austin Powers is lame 2013-07-29T13:31:32 <+Steffanx> He is as funny as you are. 2013-07-29T13:32:07 < Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w27meg0YfEU 2013-07-29T13:40:26 < dongs> fuck jerry springer 2013-07-29T13:40:29 < dongs> and fuck austin powers 2013-07-29T13:40:34 < dongs> typical unfunny american trash 2013-07-29T13:40:56 < Laurenceb> lulwut 2013-07-29T13:41:01 < Laurenceb> funniest shit ever 2013-07-29T13:42:59 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-29T13:44:46 < dongs> YA IF UR A FAG 2013-07-29T13:45:41 < zyp> agreed 2013-07-29T13:54:14 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-249-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-29T13:55:55 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T13:56:59 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@60.sub-75-233-207.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T13:57:41 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-29T14:07:41 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 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this error with openocd & stlinkv2 Error: jtag status contains invalid mode value - communication failure 2013-07-29T15:10:18 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T15:11:19 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T15:30:54 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-29T15:43:00 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T15:44:54 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T15:47:33 -!- G33KatWork [~andy@server.galauner.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T15:47:49 -!- G33KatWork [~andy@server.galauner.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T15:59:54 < Laurenceb> http://www.b3ta.com/board/10986795 2013-07-29T16:01:23 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-29T16:03:03 <+Steffanx> [15:06:39] primary school is that way -> 2013-07-29T16:03:26 <+Steffanx> Man, i love that quote. I still don't understand how Laurenceb was able to say that. 2013-07-29T16:03:38 <+Steffanx> The same applies to: [11:40:08] it does get tedious 2013-07-29T16:05:42 < baird> bai bai.. leaving for several months.. 2013-07-29T16:05:44 -!- baird [~cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2013-07-29T16:10:25 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T16:12:35 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-29T16:14:19 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T16:15:56 -!- Lt_Lemming [Lt_Lemming@203.219.229.140] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-29T16:17:07 -!- Lt_Lemming [Lt_Lemming@203.219.229.140] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T16:20:43 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T16:22:12 < Thorn> Warning: You requested a partition from 1049kB to 3001GB. 2013-07-29T16:22:12 < Thorn> The closest location we can manage is 1049kB to 3001GB. 2013-07-29T16:22:12 < Thorn> Is this still acceptable to you? 2013-07-29T16:22:22 < Thorn> loonix 2013-07-29T16:23:06 < zyp> heh 2013-07-29T16:23:17 < Laurenceb> get your ass to mars 2013-07-29T16:23:28 < zyp> I assume those are different numbers that both round to 3001GB 2013-07-29T16:23:42 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-29T16:23:59 < Thorn> very likely so. still when adding a disk to a raid you need partition sizes to match 2013-07-29T16:24:29 < Thorn> and god only knows how exactly it will round them 2013-07-29T16:24:55 < zyp> why do you partition disks for a raid? 2013-07-29T16:25:51 < Thorn> in case 2 years later I buy a drive of a slightly different size 2013-07-29T16:36:14 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T16:40:39 < Thorn> /usr/bin/hdparm --please-destroy-my-drive –yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing 2013-07-29T16:40:51 < Thorn> (all real flags) 2013-07-29T16:41:17 < zyp> :) 2013-07-29T16:41:41 < zyp> which file system are you running? 2013-07-29T16:45:37 < Thorn> raid5 -> luks -> lvm -> ext4 2013-07-29T16:45:49 < dongs> enjoy your fucking fail 2013-07-29T16:46:41 < zyp> I used to run xfs on lvm on top of hw-raid5 2013-07-29T16:47:02 < zyp> currently trying out zfs, which seems to be a way more neat solution 2013-07-29T16:52:02 < Thorn> btw if you don't specify a drive to parted as an argument it seems to default to /dev/sda. very nice safety feature 2013-07-29T16:52:12 < zyp> heh 2013-07-29T16:52:27 < zyp> I always used fdisk 2013-07-29T16:53:38 < Thorn> the ubuntu installer creates GPT tables which fdisk doesn't understand 2013-07-29T16:54:05 < zyp> yeah, I haven't had to deal with partitioning in linux since GPT became the shit 2013-07-29T17:00:52 < Tectu> 18 ohms between Vcc and GND... what can be wrong there? (I am populating a board, before I added the STM32F407 it was fine, now I have 18 ohms 2013-07-29T17:00:53 < Tectu> ) 2013-07-29T17:01:56 < Laurenceb> it might not be real 2013-07-29T17:02:04 < Laurenceb> what does your multimeter output? 2013-07-29T17:02:34 < Tectu> what are you trying to ask? 2013-07-29T17:03:13 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-57-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T17:03:19 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-29T17:03:19 < Thorn> what voltage your dmm uses to measure resistance 2013-07-29T17:03:43 < Thorn> anyway my f4discovery is 3.3k (with my dmm) 2013-07-29T17:03:54 < Tectu> 7.4V 2013-07-29T17:03:56 < Tectu> (Do not ask why) 2013-07-29T17:04:11 < Tectu> on my E407 I just measured > 1Mohm 2013-07-29T17:05:54 < Thorn> 7.4V to an f4 == death by electrocution 2013-07-29T17:06:17 < Tectu> well, I plugged in the board before to check the powersupply, all the lanes were fine (including the +3.3V. Now I soldered the STM32F407ZGT and now I don't have anything fine anymore 2013-07-29T17:06:33 < Tectu> Thorn, damn, you're right 2013-07-29T17:06:37 < Tectu> Thorn, anyway, it was broken before 2013-07-29T17:06:57 < Tectu> Thorn, well, 7.4V is just the voltage of the battery in the multimeter. I don't know if that's also the measuring voltage? 2013-07-29T17:07:11 < Thorn> highly unlikely 2013-07-29T17:07:33 < Tectu> it's an Agilent U1253A 2013-07-29T17:09:56 < Tectu> Thorn, looks like I got a short cut between my VCAP and VCC -.-' 2013-07-29T17:10:45 < Tectu> I hope that it has an over voltage protection there :D 2013-07-29T17:10:46 < Tectu> afk 2013-07-29T17:10:55 < dongs> raped. 2013-07-29T17:14:30 < Laurenceb> repraped 2013-07-29T17:17:59 < Thorn> Vcap is at 1.2V? 2013-07-29T17:18:25 < Thorn> yes just measured, 1.25V 2013-07-29T17:25:03 < Tectu> Thorn, I fixed the solder brige, now I have 220R between VCAP and VCC 2013-07-29T17:25:09 < Tectu> yet 0.18R between VCC and GND 2013-07-29T17:25:21 < Tectu> not sure if the chip is broken now and causes the shortcut or not 2013-07-29T17:25:25 < Thorn> still too small 2013-07-29T17:26:16 < Tectu> the 220R? 2013-07-29T17:27:21 < Thorn> oh, between Vcap and Vcc 2013-07-29T17:27:36 < Thorn> still I have 5...6k on the discovery 2013-07-29T17:27:52 < dongs> once you trashed vcap, youre done 2013-07-29T17:27:54 < dongs> replcae the chip 2013-07-29T17:27:59 < dongs> it'll jsut heat up now 2013-07-29T17:28:04 < dongs> and Burrrnrnrnnn 2013-07-29T17:29:18 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-57-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-29T17:29:22 < ttmrichter> The F4 discovery is cheap enough you should be able to have fun exploding it and then just replacing it. :) 2013-07-29T17:30:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T17:30:32 < Thorn> apparently wd caviar green + lunix / osx = death within 6 months due to huge load cycle count (OS caching is so good that the drive parks every few seconds) 2013-07-29T17:32:33 -!- DanteA [~X@host-70-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T17:34:00 < dongs> latest rumor is lunix is becoming "worse than windows" 2013-07-29T17:34:01 < dongs> https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/ 2013-07-29T17:36:29 -!- talsit1 [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T17:36:52 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-29T17:37:04 -!- talsit1 is now known as talsit 2013-07-29T17:38:13 -!- Nutter [Nutter@199.195.151.246] has quit [] 2013-07-29T17:39:20 < Tectu> dongs, okay, I just took of the chip. easy job with that expensive equipement here 2013-07-29T17:39:33 < emeb_mac> Thorn: I'd be surprised by that - on my main linux box with Fedora the ext3 cache syncing is usually set to a few seconds so the disk gets fairly regular activity. 2013-07-29T17:42:57 < Thorn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdparm/+bug/969165 2013-07-29T17:43:40 -!- DanteA [~X@host-70-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-29T17:43:55 < Tectu> Thorn, dongs, I'll try another chip tomorrow, leaving soon. Thanks for the help! 2013-07-29T17:44:19 < Thorn> I'll fry another chip tomorrow 2013-07-29T17:44:52 < Tectu> try* 2013-07-29T17:44:56 < Tectu> aah... what did you do... 2013-07-29T17:45:01 < zyp> :p 2013-07-29T17:45:11 <+Steffanx> lol 2013-07-29T17:46:21 -!- Nutter [~Nutter@199-195-151-246.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T17:47:08 < emeb_mac> Thorn: looks pretty solvable. 2013-07-29T17:48:28 < Thorn> thorn@golden:~$ sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdc 2013-07-29T17:48:28 < Thorn> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error 2013-07-29T17:48:28 < Thorn> APM_level = not supported 2013-07-29T17:50:11 < Thorn> will try idle3-tools though 2013-07-29T17:50:34 < emeb_mac> have you confirmed a high load count with the smartdrive utility? 2013-07-29T17:51:12 < Thorn> Power_On_Hours 86; Start_Stop_Count 3; Load_Cycle_Count 83 2013-07-29T17:51:28 < Thorn> so much better than others (15+ cycles/hours) but still a lot 2013-07-29T17:51:35 < Thorn> *hour 2013-07-29T17:52:35 < emeb_mac> looks like about 1 load cycle/hour. not horrible. 2013-07-29T17:54:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-29T18:02:52 -!- DanteA [~X@host-107-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T18:29:40 -!- Inteliada [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T18:34:28 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-29T18:36:16 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T18:55:49 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-29T19:03:29 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T19:08:49 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-29T19:09:44 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T19:14:36 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T19:16:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T19:18:13 -!- DanteA [~X@host-107-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-29T19:29:37 < Laurenceb> http://xianguo.com/article/2104424FB1DC2D9945E97B777F425C78 2013-07-29T19:29:41 < Laurenceb> lol second photo 2013-07-29T19:29:47 < Laurenceb> "oh shit" 2013-07-29T19:33:12 <+Steffanx> My chinese is a bit rusty, can you translate Laurenceb? 2013-07-29T19:33:41 < Laurenceb> galaxy s4 destroyed his house 2013-07-29T19:34:55 <+Steffanx> Google translate, translates it to pretty understandable text. 2013-07-29T19:35:14 <+Steffanx> Anyway, i wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the whole story ( or at least parts aren't true ) 2013-07-29T19:36:38 <+Steffanx> but again, I'm not objective anymore.. thanks internet 2013-07-29T19:53:54 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T19:56:56 < dongs> i'm gonna guess here 2013-07-29T19:57:03 < dongs> yeah that. 2013-07-29T19:57:59 <+Steffanx> what mr dongs? 2013-07-29T20:07:31 < dongs> the article title 2013-07-29T20:07:39 < emeb> prolly used an aftermarket charger, like those poor Chinese folks who got electrocuted by their iPhones. 2013-07-29T20:07:43 < dongs> i could make out symbols for "galaxy", "fire", " death " 2013-07-29T20:08:06 < dongs> oh, and room/house 2013-07-29T20:08:32 < dongs> er, galay->samsung rather 2013-07-29T20:09:35 <+Steffanx> Fire is doable even for me. but death.. not really 2013-07-29T20:09:43 <+Steffanx> 死 :S 2013-07-29T20:10:01 < zyp> heh, samsung is actually written «three stars»? 2013-07-29T20:10:06 < zyp> didn't know that 2013-07-29T20:10:06 < emeb> google translate says no one died in that incident, but mentions others where there have been fatalities 2013-07-29T20:11:13 <+Steffanx> From now one you will call it a three start galaxy S4 zyp? :) 2013-07-29T20:11:16 <+Steffanx> *stars 2013-07-29T20:11:28 <+Steffanx> *on 2013-07-29T20:11:44 <+Steffanx> i should read what i type before i press enter. 2013-07-29T20:14:13 < zyp> good idea 2013-07-29T20:14:56 < emeb> it / on - either makes sense 2013-07-29T20:15:56 <+Steffanx> but "from now one" not emeb :) 2013-07-29T20:16:22 < emeb> true 2013-07-29T20:24:32 -!- claude_ [~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-043-191-012.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T20:28:37 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/PFzB2s6.png check this out 2013-07-29T20:30:05 <+Steffanx> what am i looking at? 2013-07-29T20:30:12 < dongs> a dong 2013-07-29T20:30:19 <+Steffanx> japan @ night? 2013-07-29T20:31:12 < dongs> 428kHz wide mobile tv signal 2013-07-29T20:32:22 <+Steffanx> oh, this is the output of that receiver you made? 2013-07-29T20:32:58 < dongs> no actually i was trying to see if I can record some mobile stuff with rtl-sdr shit as IQ and play it back to my receiver to test it, which worked 2013-07-29T20:33:12 < dongs> and then I thought hm i should try modulating just the mobile stuff and see what it looks like in rtlsdr 2013-07-29T20:33:16 < dongs> so thats where im at 2013-07-29T20:33:44 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.76.60.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T20:33:52 < dongs> on aug1 they're broadcasting earthquake warning signal at noon 2013-07-29T20:33:54 < dongs> test broadcast 2013-07-29T20:34:15 < Gargantuasauce> guess I should spam this here too. http://xn--d-bga.su/gob.png Gob's program. OISC edition. 2013-07-29T20:35:04 < dongs> so with this setup i should be able to record it and play it back later to test that warning reception crap. 2013-07-29T20:48:49 < emeb> SDR# is fairly good for free stuff. 2013-07-29T20:52:27 <+Steffanx> Someone had to mention it.. the fact that it's free / open source :P 2013-07-29T20:54:12 < dongs> pfft 2013-07-29T20:54:17 < dongs> hm its kinda late. 2013-07-29T20:57:05 <+Steffanx> sleep well 2013-07-29T20:57:14 <+Steffanx> no waifu cop that forced you to go to bed? 2013-07-29T20:57:14 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.167] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T20:57:42 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-29T21:00:04 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-29T21:11:28 -!- rlc [63ed50cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.237.80.207] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T21:13:25 < rlc> hi. has anyone encountered a mismatch in the datasheet and the actual SPI clock frequency regarding the SPI prescaler value? 2013-07-29T21:16:05 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-29T21:17:40 < zyp> rlc, how so? 2013-07-29T21:18:22 < zyp> are you sure you're not just confused about what the peripheral clock frequency is? 2013-07-29T21:24:53 < rlc> I think I'm not sure how to set the baud rate 2013-07-29T21:24:56 < rlc> 000: fPCLK/2100: fPCLK/32 2013-07-29T21:25:32 < rlc> what does that line above mean exactly? division between 2100 and 32? 2013-07-29T21:25:38 -!- Inteliada [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2013-07-29T21:27:21 < rlc> there does not seem to be much info about spi baud rate in datasheet 2013-07-29T21:27:33 < rlc> on how to set it 2013-07-29T21:29:47 < Thorn> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/man-gets-ransomware-porn-pop-up-turns-self-in-on-child-porn-charges/ 2013-07-29T21:30:42 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-29T21:36:56 < emeb> hmm - DSC. Never heard of that: http://linuxgizmos.com/board-runs-arm-linux-on-freescale-vybrid-processor/ 2013-07-29T21:41:47 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.167] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 2013-07-29T21:42:24 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-29T21:43:11 < Laurenceb_> hahaha 2013-07-29T21:43:29 < Laurenceb_> DSC also known as "we soldered the fucker" 2013-07-29T21:43:36 < emeb> ya 2013-07-29T21:43:53 < emeb> saved $0.50 on connectors 2013-07-29T21:44:49 < Laurenceb_> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 2013-07-29T21:44:55 < Laurenceb_> hah - funding dried up 2013-07-29T21:45:21 < emeb> indiegogo should provide a plot of pledges vs time. 2013-07-29T21:46:31 < zyp> rlc, huh? it says 000: fPCLK/2, 100: fPCLK/32 2013-07-29T21:47:00 < emeb> "spannered in pilton" - just love british slang. 2013-07-29T21:48:13 < zyp> oh, vybrid 2013-07-29T21:48:25 < zyp> those with A5+M4 looks fun 2013-07-29T21:48:52 < emeb> ya 2013-07-29T21:48:53 < emeb> cheap too 2013-07-29T21:50:35 < rlc> zyp: ha! the comma and space was missing in-between. 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2013-07-30T12:25:27 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 2013-07-30T12:25:37 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@117.237.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T12:26:47 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T12:36:29 < ttmrichter> Why? 2013-07-30T12:36:34 < ttmrichter> Isn't that what twits are for? 2013-07-30T12:36:49 < Laurenceb> but when a twit gets trolled.... 2013-07-30T13:18:54 -!- mrmcan [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T13:20:53 -!- mrcan_ [~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-30T13:26:42 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-30T13:33:19 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/web/catalog/sense_power/FM89/SC1449/PF259125?icmp=pf259125_pron_lsm303c_jul2013 2013-07-30T13:36:11 < dongs> < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/web/catalog/sense_power/FM89/SC1449/PF259125?icmp=pf259125_pron_lsm303c_jul2013 2013-07-30T13:36:15 < dongs> no wonder Laurenceb is interested 2013-07-30T13:36:21 < Laurenceb> haha 2013-07-30T13:36:24 < Laurenceb> pron 2013-07-30T13:36:46 < Thorn> Laurenceb can find pron even on st.com 2013-07-30T13:37:24 < dongs> another fucking boring part with muxed ADC 2013-07-30T13:37:32 < Laurenceb> but 16bit 2013-07-30T13:37:34 < Laurenceb> and fifo 2013-07-30T13:37:42 < Laurenceb> wonder if the fifo actually works this time 2013-07-30T13:37:43 < dongs> BMA280 is the only accel beisdes invensense shit that has one ADC per axis 2013-07-30T13:38:06 < dongs> 16 bit of noise 2013-07-30T13:38:23 < Laurenceb> yeah its overkill 2013-07-30T13:38:30 < Laurenceb> 14bit is slightly useful 2013-07-30T13:39:00 < Thorn> why do you need a fifo? 2013-07-30T13:39:10 < dongs> probvbly cuz he uses i2gay 2013-07-30T13:39:17 < dongs> instead spiwin 2013-07-30T13:39:18 < Laurenceb> lol 2013-07-30T13:39:37 < Laurenceb> yeah that 2013-07-30T13:46:09 < Laurenceb> http://www.shouldiremoveit.com/Smartstim-2-sessions-47526-program.aspx 2013-07-30T13:46:12 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-30T13:46:31 < Laurenceb> "Which countries install it?" 2013-07-30T13:50:43 < dongs> does that site have a stuxnet page 2013-07-30T13:50:49 < dongs> which countries install it? : iran 2013-07-30T13:52:14 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T13:54:04 < Laurenceb> Smartstim-2-sessions==BDSM chair controller 2013-07-30T13:58:24 < dongs> oh 2013-07-30T14:01:13 < dongs> I've literally never recieved an answer to any question I've asked in this channel. For a bunch of people supposedly into electronics, ya'll don't know shit. 2013-07-30T14:01:16 < dongs> -!- dgmx [~my@c-98-246-204-234.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Fuck you boss!] 2013-07-30T14:01:30 < dongs> another satisfied custoemr 2013-07-30T14:01:42 < dongs> is there any undesired effect of exposing the drain of a pnp mosfet to voltage while the gate is grounded yet no voltage at the source? 2013-07-30T14:01:45 < dongs> that was his question 2013-07-30T14:01:56 < dongs> none of pro IRC EEs would know this kinda trash anyway 2013-07-30T14:02:08 < Laurenceb> arg wtf 2013-07-30T14:02:15 < Laurenceb> more datalogger issues 2013-07-30T14:02:24 < Laurenceb> this is truly wtf 2013-07-30T14:02:38 < Laurenceb> datalogger is running, but EXTI interrupt wont trigger 2013-07-30T14:24:11 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.178] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T14:26:55 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@194.176.111.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-30T14:36:55 < Laurenceb> how do i find the location of a library in eagle? 2013-07-30T14:36:55 < Laurenceb> i cant find the library on the file system 2013-07-30T14:36:55 < Laurenceb> but it is there in eagle 2013-07-30T14:37:11 * Laurenceb epic rage 2013-07-30T14:37:16 < Laurenceb> stupid cadsoft crap 2013-07-30T14:40:15 < dongs> ahhahahahahah 2013-07-30T14:40:34 < Laurenceb> raging epically here 2013-07-30T14:40:43 < Laurenceb> i just want to edit a part 2013-07-30T14:40:44 <+Steffanx> epic failing from Laurenceb 2013-07-30T14:40:50 < Laurenceb> no 2013-07-30T14:40:52 < Laurenceb> from eagle 2013-07-30T14:41:25 < englishman> both really. 2013-07-30T14:41:34 <+Steffanx> So it's in the control panel and it doesn't show you a path? 2013-07-30T14:41:35 < Laurenceb> well yeah 2013-07-30T14:41:45 < Laurenceb> i could write it all down on a piece of paper... 2013-07-30T14:41:58 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: wut? 2013-07-30T14:42:35 <+Steffanx> Here it shows the paths of my libs in the control panel. 2013-07-30T14:42:55 <+Steffanx> http://share.naffets.nl/a-20130730-134221.png 2013-07-30T14:43:26 < Laurenceb> oh 2013-07-30T14:43:28 <+Steffanx> or isn't it even shown in the control panel? 2013-07-30T14:43:34 <+Steffanx> *the lib 2013-07-30T14:43:42 < dongs> haha mac faggorye 2013-07-30T14:43:45 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-30T14:44:36 <+Steffanx> W00t. I pressed the 'mac' button on dongs's sound board. 2013-07-30T14:48:10 < dongs> ur a soundboard 2013-07-30T14:48:31 <+Steffanx> No, you. No you! 2013-07-30T14:49:20 <+Steffanx> ( i guess little kid style is the way to go here nowadays ) 2013-07-30T14:50:07 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-30T14:51:22 < zyp> getting paid to dick around with altium today 2013-07-30T14:51:51 <+Steffanx> You must be a happy guy 2013-07-30T14:52:15 < zyp> maybe I will be when I learn how altium works 2013-07-30T14:52:33 < zyp> currently a bit lost about how to do anything 2013-07-30T14:53:22 <+Steffanx> Ask you boss for a course/class? 2013-07-30T14:53:41 < zyp> sounds like a waste of time 2013-07-30T14:53:46 <+Steffanx> perhaps. 2013-07-30T14:53:52 <+Steffanx> or just continue doing it in his time of course 2013-07-30T14:53:57 < zyp> I find the best way to learn something is to actually use it 2013-07-30T14:54:25 <+Steffanx> but sometimes it is nice to get some help. Sometimes. 2013-07-30T14:54:35 <+Steffanx> but i guess you have collegues for that 2013-07-30T14:54:42 <+Steffanx> *colleagues 2013-07-30T15:17:49 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-30T15:20:46 < dongs> what are y ou trying to do 2013-07-30T15:22:01 < dongs> the most awesome thing about altium is you can do everything from keyboard 2013-07-30T15:22:08 < dongs> and only use mouse for actually moving shit around 2013-07-30T15:22:11 < dongs> but all operations = keyboard 2013-07-30T15:22:43 < dongs> this shit is startingto really pisss me off in dicktrace 2013-07-30T15:22:43 < zyp> that's how I like it 2013-07-30T15:23:14 < zyp> I kinda miss the command line from eagle 2013-07-30T15:23:15 < dongs> change track width = right click, bla bla bla blal bla enter shit 2013-07-30T15:23:19 < dongs> pfft, command line 2013-07-30T15:23:21 < dongs> thats for faggots. 2013-07-30T15:24:00 <+Steffanx> you can do pretty much everything in the command thing from eagle as well, can't you zyp? 2013-07-30T15:24:07 < zyp> yep 2013-07-30T15:24:17 <+Steffanx> oh nevermind 2013-07-30T15:24:20 <+Steffanx> i read it wrong 2013-07-30T15:29:42 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-168-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T15:34:30 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T15:36:31 < dongs> man i really need to find a cheap substitute for http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/VLF3010AT-2R2M1R0/445-3215-1-ND/1132856 2013-07-30T15:36:48 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T15:37:55 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-30T15:39:10 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T15:40:06 < englishman> 60c isn't cheap? for wound and shielded 2013-07-30T15:40:42 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-30T15:41:22 < dongs> no, there's a ton of cheaper shit 2013-07-30T15:42:13 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-30T15:43:55 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ELL-VGG2R2N/PCD2299CT-ND/1938508 maybe ill do these 2013-07-30T15:44:02 < dongs> still spendy 2013-07-30T15:45:05 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T15:48:45 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-30T15:53:47 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T15:56:25 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-30T16:00:50 <+Steffanx> and found them Laurenceb? 2013-07-30T16:06:35 < Laurenceb> yup 2013-07-30T16:06:45 < Laurenceb> hmf 1 hour wasted so far 2013-07-30T16:06:56 * Laurenceb is making hirose plug adaptor board 2013-07-30T16:07:05 < Laurenceb> total waste of time 2013-07-30T16:07:09 < Laurenceb> i need minions 2013-07-30T16:14:56 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-30T16:33:36 <+Steffanx> so it was Laurenceb's fail. 2013-07-30T16:52:35 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/5iSZyi7.png 2013-07-30T16:52:38 < Laurenceb> fail central 2013-07-30T16:53:25 * Laurenceb orders a panel 2013-07-30T17:06:08 <+Steffanx> wut.. 2013-07-30T17:06:47 <+Steffanx> WHAT is that mr Laurenceb? 2013-07-30T17:06:54 < Laurenceb> an adaptor 2013-07-30T17:07:02 < Laurenceb> for hirose connectors 2013-07-30T17:07:35 < Laurenceb> so perman00bs can solder the cables to them 2013-07-30T17:08:53 <+Steffanx> wonderful design 2013-07-30T17:09:58 <+Steffanx> why 4 pads and only 3 labels? 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Visit the forum and chat to like-minded people. 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quite useful for solar powered flashlights 2013-07-30T22:34:08 < BrainDamage> every bit of energy the cell which improves efficienty reduce transmissivity 2013-07-30T22:34:25 < BrainDamage> it's either transparent or efficient 2013-07-30T22:34:26 < BrainDamage> not both 2013-07-30T22:35:45 < BrainDamage> the efficiency is basically, pin - plost in the region before the spatial charge layer - plost in the region after the spatial charge layer 2013-07-30T22:35:55 < BrainDamage> * quantum conversion efficiency 2013-07-30T22:36:19 < BrainDamage> the regions before and after are already normally pretty thin to keep efficiency high 2013-07-30T22:36:42 < BrainDamage> which means the bulk of energy is absorbed by the panel itself 2013-07-30T22:36:49 < BrainDamage> anything not absorbed, goes trough 2013-07-30T22:37:09 < BrainDamage> if you want it transparent, a simple energy balance means the panel has to absorb less 2013-07-30T22:37:25 < BrainDamage> therefore reducing even further 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Failed to interrupt." 2013-07-31T01:51:26 < h36sa> I have no control until I unplug the bmp and replug it 2013-07-31T01:51:46 < h36sa> zyp, right but I know he uses bmp so I figured he may have some insight 2013-07-31T01:52:45 < zyp> you might have better luck with other bmp users 2013-07-31T01:53:06 < emeb> heh 2013-07-31T01:53:24 < emeb> zyp's right - I've not been doing much with it lately. 2013-07-31T01:53:44 < zyp> I mean, other as in somebody that uses eclipse 2013-07-31T01:53:57 < h36sa> :) do you know any? 2013-07-31T01:54:07 < emeb> eclipse just sits on top of regular gdb, no? 2013-07-31T01:54:20 < zyp> because I'm not sure there are any other bmp2 users than emeb and me, and we don't use eclipse :p 2013-07-31T01:54:54 < zyp> emeb, I think it talks gdbserver protocol directly, but I'm not sure 2013-07-31T01:55:06 < zyp> I might be wrong 2013-07-31T01:55:37 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: 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amusing. 2013-07-31T02:49:42 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T02:50:05 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T02:52:42 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T03:01:29 -!- DaKu is now known as daku 2013-07-31T03:55:19 < dongs> guise retweeting the most amazing hypeberrypi shit ever https://youtube.com/watch?v=e3rfUEVLfYc 2013-07-31T03:56:12 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T03:57:12 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2013-07-31T04:04:06 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T04:14:52 -!- dancios [~ds@host144-89-206-9.limes.com.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T04:23:12 -!- dancios [~ds@89.206.9.144] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T04:24:18 < dancios> qyx_: company get production samples for early develping 2013-07-31T04:24:48 < talsit> samples of which? 2013-07-31T04:26:04 < dancios> stm32f439 we need 8mb of ram 2013-07-31T04:26:27 < talsit> oh nice 2013-07-31T04:26:33 < talsit> wait, 8mb? 2013-07-31T04:26:39 < talsit> that's not internal, right? 2013-07-31T04:26:48 < dancios> porting from str9 to stm32f4 with external module 2013-07-31T04:35:48 < dancios> str9 with 2mb flash was not enough :( sa the obvious move was to change it easily only drivers to rewrite (app-middleware-drivers) and most of the code is common only more dma/adc/dac so porting is quite easy in freertos environment additional memory will be an option if not move for linux :> 2013-07-31T04:37:12 < dongs> lol, lunxi 2013-07-31T04:37:16 < dongs> moving to lunix is never an option 2013-07-31T04:37:20 < dongs> unless your time is worthless. 2013-07-31T04:38:54 < dancios> for some project we have freertos in gpio/adc/dac/irq level and linux as the rest and it works quite well 10mbit uart for communiction with linux :> 2013-07-31T04:39:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T04:42:31 -!- dancios_ [~ds@host144-89-206-9.limes.com.pl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T04:43:59 < dancios_> i think that the fucture is the communication cpu with fpga :> 2013-07-31T04:44:12 < inca> dancios_: SoC 2013-07-31T04:44:28 -!- dancios [~ds@89.206.9.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-31T04:44:54 < dongs> lunix on chip 2013-07-31T04:45:06 < dongs> it was kinda neat to see atmel sama5 stuff had baremetal examples 2013-07-31T04:45:16 < dongs> instead of just FUCKING LUNIX 2013-07-31T04:46:28 < dancios_> m5/7 i saw a slide somewhre that is mix m series with r :> i'm waiting for it for some time :>> but for me it should be with a lot of dma for integrated fpga 2013-07-31T04:48:37 < dancios_> i saw there is a cortex-a9 with fpga and you mode periherals in c instead of HDL ;> im interested how those 440k cells with cpu will work in real life :D 2013-07-31T04:50:05 < dongs> you mean xilinx zync shit? 2013-07-31T04:50:10 < dongs> its already being used in a bunch of projects 2013-07-31T04:50:17 < dongs> sadly, most (all?) are lunix 2013-07-31T04:50:33 < inca> dongs: the altera ones look better this time around 2013-07-31T04:51:14 < dongs> oh do they have something too? 2013-07-31T04:53:06 -!- dancios_ [~ds@host144-89-206-9.limes.com.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-31T04:53:23 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-231-106.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T04:53:23 < dongs> which one is it? 2013-07-31T04:53:28 < dongs> their site is fucking uselesslesly disorganized 2013-07-31T04:53:45 < dongs> there seems to be arria V / cyclone V / arria V HPS 2013-07-31T04:53:47 < dongs> ??? 2013-07-31T04:56:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T05:13:06 -!- ttmrichter [~ttmrichte@31.25.101.133] has left ##stm32 ["Leave"] 2013-07-31T05:26:06 < dongs> ha just got spam about psoc4 2013-07-31T05:26:08 < dongs> from cypress. 2013-07-31T05:30:19 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T05:34:57 < cehteh> someone should port linux to the naze32 .. just to troll dongs 2013-07-31T06:13:36 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T06:15:28 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-07-31T06:15:28 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-31T06:43:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2013-07-31T06:43:15 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T06:44:51 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-224-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T07:28:06 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-224-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T07:49:41 < Tectu> emeb_mac, ping 2013-07-31T07:49:50 < emeb_mac> pong 2013-07-31T07:50:25 < Tectu> emeb_mac, When I designed my PCB, I took your schematic of the BMP as a reference. However, I cannot find your page anymore. Do you have any link? 2013-07-31T07:50:45 < Tectu> I need the software etc. 2013-07-31T07:50:55 < emeb_mac> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/bmp2/index.html 2013-07-31T07:51:38 < Tectu> thanks! 2013-07-31T07:52:04 < emeb_mac> software is here: https://github.com/gsmcmullin 2013-07-31T07:57:38 < Tectu> let's have a look 2013-07-31T07:59:07 < Tectu> is there a lot of hacking required? 2013-07-31T08:09:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2013-07-31T08:11:46 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T08:12:07 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:14:04 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T08:14:19 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:16:47 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:17:41 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:20:44 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:21:17 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.14] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:21:18 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:24:13 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@194.176.111.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:24:52 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@192.241.165.4] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:25:16 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:26:11 -!- englishman [~englishma@96.127.221.50] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2013-07-31T08:26:12 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2013-07-31T08:26:53 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:28:55 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:32:41 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:32:52 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:33:52 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:33:55 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:34:12 -!- dancios [~ds@host144-89-206-9.limes.com.pl] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:34:33 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:36:36 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:37:10 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:38:13 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:38:57 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:39:50 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:41:23 -!- inca___ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:41:32 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:43:58 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:44:35 -!- inca__ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-31T08:48:29 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T08:49:39 < emeb_mac> Tectu: I haven't had to do any tweaks to the BMP source 2013-07-31T08:49:53 < Tectu> emeb_mac, cool 2013-07-31T08:50:06 < Tectu> now I only need a UART bridge... *grml* 2013-07-31T08:50:12 < emeb_mac> zyp has found a few things to change, but I think that he's pushed them back to mainline. 2013-07-31T08:50:15 < Tectu> what tool did you use to flash your BMP? 2013-07-31T08:50:33 < emeb_mac> First time I used my original BMPM 2013-07-31T08:50:41 < Tectu> lol 2013-07-31T08:50:46 < emeb_mac> once you get the bootloader in though it can flash itself 2013-07-31T08:50:56 < Tectu> well, I have PA9 and PA10 here 2013-07-31T08:51:00 < Tectu> so UART should work, no? 2013-07-31T08:51:09 < emeb_mac> I think so. 2013-07-31T08:51:09 < Tectu> I Hope the STM32F102 has an UART bootloader too? :S 2013-07-31T08:52:03 < emeb_mac> should 2013-07-31T08:55:47 < jpa-> everything does 2013-07-31T08:56:05 < jpa-> the UART bootloader is the one thing you can always rely on :P 2013-07-31T08:56:16 < emeb_mac> that's a fairly expansive statement. :) 2013-07-31T08:57:16 < jpa-> never failed me :) 2013-07-31T08:57:45 < emeb_mac> you use ST's bootloader utility? 2013-07-31T08:57:51 < jpa-> stm32flash 2013-07-31T08:59:23 < Tectu> jpa-, just fired stm32flash up :) 2013-07-31T09:00:32 < Tectu> what happens if you have BOOT0 logic 0 and BOOT1 not connected? 2013-07-31T09:03:10 < emeb_mac> depends. how is BOOT1 floating? 2013-07-31T09:04:21 < Tectu> you mean as in voltage level? 2013-07-31T09:04:27 < Tectu> the pin is REALLY floating 2013-07-31T09:04:30 < Tectu> it's no pull up/down 2013-07-31T09:04:36 < Tectu> just pure NC 2013-07-31T09:04:55 < emeb_mac> right, so you need to pull it somehow, otherwise you'll get unknown behavior 2013-07-31T09:05:19 < Tectu> damn 2013-07-31T09:05:23 < Tectu> afk ^^ 2013-07-31T09:10:47 < jpa-> isn't "boot0 = logic 0" always "boot from main flash"? 2013-07-31T09:11:00 < jpa-> only if boot0 = 1 and boot1 is floating you get random behaviour 2013-07-31T09:11:30 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: known, depends on interference :) 2013-07-31T09:11:58 < akaWolf> jpa-: yeah 2013-07-31T09:12:03 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-31T09:12:37 < emeb_mac> jpa-: but if Tectu wants to use the bootloader then he needs to define BOOT1 2013-07-31T09:13:05 < jpa-> yes, i can agree on that.. or atleast he may have to try a few times otherwise 2013-07-31T09:13:42 < emeb_mac> akaWolf: I use ST-Link on windows, but for linux development BMP is better - direct GDB support, no separate server required. 2013-07-31T09:14:25 < jpa-> 2013-07-31T09:14:58 < emeb_mac> bringing a PM back to main chl 2013-07-31T09:15:10 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: ah, ok ) 2013-07-31T09:15:23 < Tectu> jpa-, I am not sure what "main flash" means. I mean when I want to use the bootloader, then I want Boot1 0 and Boot0 1 2013-07-31T09:15:32 < emeb_mac> haven't messed with J-Link, but I've got one on order. 2013-07-31T09:16:06 < emeb_mac> Tectu: right. if BOOT0 = 0 and BOOT1 = 0 then it does something else 2013-07-31T09:16:19 < emeb_mac> errr... 2013-07-31T09:16:30 < jpa-> Tectu: yes, but you said boot0 = 0 :) 2013-07-31T09:16:38 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: ok, when it's better -- develop the stm32-based device on Linux? 2013-07-31T09:16:38 < emeb_mac> BOOT0 = 1 and BOOT1 = 1 2013-07-31T09:16:52 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: rather then Win 2013-07-31T09:17:18 < emeb_mac> akaWolf: 'cause I like just using arm-gcc + make + gdb 2013-07-31T09:17:22 < Tectu> jpa-, when I have SWD, does the BOOT1 pin matter? 2013-07-31T09:18:03 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: I think, it's not problem on Windows too 2013-07-31T09:18:10 < dongs> "lunix" "development" 2013-07-31T09:18:13 < dongs> fun times ahead. 2013-07-31T09:18:13 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: without any IDE? 2013-07-31T09:18:35 < emeb_mac> akaWolf: On Win7 I use CooCox + ST-Link 2013-07-31T09:18:50 < emeb_mac> dongs: some of us love to masochise. 2013-07-31T09:19:03 < akaWolf> emeb_mac: not I ) 2013-07-31T09:19:36 < jpa-> Tectu: whenever boot0 = 0, the boot1 does not matter 2013-07-31T09:20:08 < dongs> yea thats why they finally moved boot1 into option bytes 2013-07-31T09:20:09 < dongs> on F3 2013-07-31T09:20:15 < dongs> was a waste of perfectly good pin 2013-07-31T09:20:32 < dongs> actualyl the only use for it on F1 was for stealing ROP'd code 2013-07-31T09:21:33 < jpa-> huh, option bytes; i would have expected just a normal register instead of flash 2013-07-31T09:21:57 < dongs> well, other chip specific trash is in option bytes 2013-07-31T09:22:03 < dongs> why would boot stuff be different 2013-07-31T09:23:07 < jpa-> well if you want to boot from sram for some crazy reason, maybe you don't want to reprogram flash just to do that 2013-07-31T09:23:50 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@212.255.247.167] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T09:23:53 -!- mode/##stm32 [+v dekar__] by ChanServ 2013-07-31T09:24:05 < jpa-> but i still haven't figured out why someone wants to boot from sram 2013-07-31T09:24:16 < dongs> to steal IP 2013-07-31T09:24:44 < jpa-> anyway, if you have a method to write stuff into SRAM, you should also have a way to write stuff to PC & SP so you can simulate boot 2013-07-31T09:28:08 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@212.255.254.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-31T09:28:26 < akaWolf> jpa-: and full set of another registers 2013-07-31T09:28:52 < akaWolf> jpa-: maybe it's just a little more expensive... 2013-07-31T09:29:20 < jpa-> well all other registers can be reset using the various reset bits 2013-07-31T09:29:30 < akaWolf> yes 2013-07-31T09:30:16 < dongs> option bytes is just a block of flash tho 2013-07-31T09:31:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T09:56:11 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T10:03:08 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-235-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T10:04:05 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T10:04:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2013-07-31T10:17:42 -!- DanteA [~X@host-15-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T10:44:44 < Lt_Lemming> "and a 32 bit ARM-based Turbo Core V2 MCU clocked at 72 MHz." <--- gee I wonder which Microcontroller that is based around? :-P 2013-07-31T10:44:48 < Lt_Lemming> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Roccat-Optical-Kone-Pure-Pro-Optic-Gaming-Mouse,23680.html 2013-07-31T10:48:12 < dongs> 576k of "onboard memory"? 2013-07-31T10:48:13 < dongs> the fuck for 2013-07-31T10:48:23 < dongs> i wish I could get a contract designing "gaymer" hardware 2013-07-31T10:48:28 < dongs> I could just throw a bunch of irrelevant shit on pcb 2013-07-31T10:48:31 < dongs> not evne bother connecting it 2013-07-31T10:48:35 < dongs> then sell it for $100/ea 2013-07-31T10:48:40 < dongs> with $10 bom cost 2013-07-31T10:48:43 < dongs> actually thats pretty shitty 2013-07-31T10:48:54 < dongs> it should be $1k w/ $10 bom 2013-07-31T10:50:35 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T10:52:08 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T10:54:55 < Lt_Lemming> heh 2013-07-31T10:59:36 < Tectu> can anyone help on this? (openocd) http://pastebin.com/3FKvG5LL 2013-07-31T10:59:49 < dongs> aids 2013-07-31T11:00:06 < dongs> arent you supposed to use "texane" 2013-07-31T11:00:08 < dongs> instead of openocd 2013-07-31T11:00:10 < dongs> for stlink shit? 2013-07-31T11:00:15 < dongs> no idea, as i dont use lunix. 2013-07-31T11:00:48 < Tectu> dongs, openocd handles stlink just fine. I try to talk to a custom board 2013-07-31T11:02:30 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T11:04:23 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T11:07:18 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T11:27:46 -!- DanteA [~X@host-15-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-31T11:30:17 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-166-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T11:31:36 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1883701526/matchboxarm?ref=category 2013-07-31T11:31:38 < dongs> o hai look at this shit 2013-07-31T11:32:13 < Lt_Lemming> 15GBP... that's kinda expensive... 2013-07-31T11:32:24 < dongs> considering my breakouts of same function sell for $10, yeah 2013-07-31T11:33:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Jc9v4.jpg 2013-07-31T11:33:32 < dongs> made this shit like last year 2013-07-31T11:33:48 < dongs> Submitted: 10 months ago 2013-07-31T11:34:11 -!- DanteA [~X@host-143-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T11:34:22 < Lt_Lemming> what's the other chip? 2013-07-31T11:34:27 < dongs> just usb.serial 2013-07-31T11:34:31 < dongs> cuz im too lazy 4 bootloader 2013-07-31T11:34:43 < Lt_Lemming> lol 2013-07-31T11:35:51 < Tectu> when will people stop doing this crap. 2013-07-31T11:41:27 < Lt_Lemming> when people stop funding it 2013-07-31T11:49:35 < Lt_Lemming> I seriously wish there was an unmoderated forum attached to each project, or at least one not moderated by the project owners 2013-07-31T11:54:48 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-31T11:56:04 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T11:56:44 -!- daku is now known as DaKu 2013-07-31T11:58:04 < arnonh> dongs: where are you selling your breakouts? 2013-07-31T12:06:13 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-31T12:07:52 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T12:08:16 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T12:22:13 < dongs> arnonh: http://abusemark.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=40 2013-07-31T12:34:43 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-31T12:41:42 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T12:43:36 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T12:57:37 -!- PT_Dreamer_ [~quassel@109.48.4.220] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T12:58:03 -!- PT_Dreamer [~quassel@117.237.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-31T13:18:03 < qyx_> 7000 goal? 2013-07-31T13:18:45 < dongs> HEH 2013-07-31T13:19:28 < Laurenceb> over 9000 2013-07-31T13:24:16 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 2013-07-31T13:24:55 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@94.28.133.144] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T13:25:46 < qyx_> Tectu: check the connections, i tried oocd 0.8.0 with custom f1 board over swd few days ago and it just worked 2013-07-31T13:26:40 < qyx_> btw you can add udev rule for stlink to avoid using sudo 2013-07-31T13:28:13 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T13:29:10 < qyx_> Tectu: what is your target? 2013-07-31T14:06:47 < Laurenceb> bagdad 2013-07-31T14:16:35 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:19:05 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:20:25 -!- inca___ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:21:36 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.14] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:21:58 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:22:13 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:24:22 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:25:40 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:27:06 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:27:27 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T14:27:47 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:29:35 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:33:08 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:34:59 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T14:35:34 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:35:40 < Tectu> qyx_, stm32f102cb 2013-07-31T14:44:57 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-173-88-167-240.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T14:50:23 < dongs> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/windycitysdr/distribute-and-manufacture-software-defined-radio/comments + http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2013-07/msg00070.html = lol drama 2013-07-31T14:50:27 < dongs> attn zyp etc 2013-07-31T14:53:15 < jpa-> lol patents 2013-07-31T14:53:29 < dongs> also https://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/1510390 2013-07-31T14:53:31 -!- Intelaida [4d48784e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.72.120.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-31T14:53:40 < jpa-> "i saw the device you made but it had no patent so i patented it kthxbye" 2013-07-31T14:56:34 < Tectu> jpa-, when using the F4 usb bootloader with dfu-util, is it possible to run the code without changing boot pins / power cycle? 2013-07-31T14:57:14 < jpa-> maybbe 2013-07-31T14:57:43 < Tectu> any tipps? 2013-07-31T14:57:56 < jpa-> http://dfu-util.gnumonks.org/dfuse.html it's called "leave" 2013-07-31T14:59:27 * Laurenceb thought Christina Simikoski was dressed as a nazi at first sight 2013-07-31T15:00:19 < Laurenceb> "I would like to cancel my backing, I don't feel comfortable supporting this any more" 2013-07-31T15:00:21 < Laurenceb> lulwtf 2013-07-31T15:01:08 < dongs> you ahve to read it from the bottom 2013-07-31T15:01:09 < dongs> for the drama 2013-07-31T15:01:26 < Tectu> jpa-, does this seem to be right? The second last line distracts me. http://pastebin.com/058VJJcK 2013-07-31T15:01:32 < zyp> tl;dr 2013-07-31T15:01:44 < Laurenceb> haha its Mr Ettus? 2013-07-31T15:02:12 < jpa-> Tectu: i don't know; does it work? 2013-07-31T15:02:29 < dongs> Laurenceb: mr. ettus joins in to troll too 2013-07-31T15:02:41 < Tectu> jpa-, after booting the code, I see my LED flashing up one time, then nothing - and since no debugger, not sure what fails (It should just toggle the LED in a while) 2013-07-31T15:02:48 < Laurenceb> http://www.agile-sdr-solutions.com/ASRP1 2013-07-31T15:02:50 < Laurenceb> niceeee 2013-07-31T15:02:54 < Tectu> who's mr ettus? 2013-07-31T15:02:58 < Laurenceb> but bet its has n00b rf 2013-07-31T15:03:05 < dongs> Please remove all of the text which you have copied from the Ettus Research web site. You've already copied our design, please don't copy our terms and conditions as well. 2013-07-31T15:03:08 < dongs> LOL 2013-07-31T15:03:12 < jpa-> Tectu: then i guess your flashing is ok and your code fails in other ways 2013-07-31T15:03:16 < jpa-> Tectu: hook up a debugger 2013-07-31T15:03:26 < Tectu> jpa-, currently I cant :D 2013-07-31T15:03:32 < jpa-> why? 2013-07-31T15:03:38 < Laurenceb> https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/139/139.F3d.902.97-2493.html 2013-07-31T15:03:48 < Tectu> jpa-, because I can currently not flash the bmp. 2013-07-31T15:03:49 < Laurenceb> hehehehe "O'Shield" 2013-07-31T15:03:59 < Laurenceb> Nomnative determinism strikes again 2013-07-31T15:04:24 < jpa-> Tectu: well wire up another debugger? 2013-07-31T15:04:45 < Tectu> jpa-, I currently cant 2013-07-31T15:05:17 < jpa-> why? 2013-07-31T15:05:43 < Tectu> jpa, but what means the "cant detach" in the dfu-util output? 2013-07-31T15:06:06 < jpa-> check the source and see 2013-07-31T15:07:34 < Tectu> :D 2013-07-31T15:07:42 < jpa-> what? 2013-07-31T15:07:47 < jpa-> it's a perfectly valid way 2013-07-31T15:08:06 < jpa-> https://gitorious.org/dfu-util/dfu-util/blobs/master/src/main.c#line733 there it is, happens after the flashing is done, can't ruin the flashing 2013-07-31T15:10:39 < Tectu> jpa-, as far as I understand, I couldn't flash if the crystal wouldn't be working, right? 2013-07-31T15:11:28 < jpa-> correct 2013-07-31T15:11:41 < jpa-> simplest explanation: your code is crashing 2013-07-31T15:12:01 < jpa-> if you really can't hook up 3 wires, add a debug handler 2013-07-31T15:13:21 < jpa-> https://svn.kapsi.fi/jpa/paatti/interrupt_vectors.c or similar 2013-07-31T15:14:07 < jpa-> otherwise it is just a case of "i'm looking for my keys here, because it's so dark where i lost them" 2013-07-31T15:17:52 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T15:25:59 -!- englishman [~englishma@192.241.165.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T15:27:59 -!- englishman [~englishma@192.241.165.4] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T15:35:34 <+Steffanx> Sounds like you have experience jpa- 2013-07-31T15:38:59 < jpa-> nah, i've never seen a bug before 2013-07-31T15:40:52 <+Steffanx> i mean with the keys 2013-07-31T15:41:54 < jpa-> it's a well known joke that fits the situation :) 2013-07-31T15:43:09 <+Steffanx> :) but i never heard of it before 2013-07-31T15:48:03 -!- ttmrichter [~ttmrichte@31.25.101.133] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T15:58:06 < Laurenceb> lolling 2013-07-31T15:58:11 < Laurenceb> Guy Story : KC5GOI 2013-07-31T16:01:26 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-235-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-31T16:08:46 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-177-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T16:23:09 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-177-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-07-31T16:26:29 -!- R0b0t1 [~dev@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T16:29:05 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-204-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T16:29:15 < Lt_Lemming> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jdzev/i_am_a_corporatecommercial_pilot_ama/cbdxbew <--- well worth the read 2013-07-31T16:30:22 -!- ttmrichter [~ttmrichte@31.25.101.133] has left ##stm32 ["Leave"] 2013-07-31T16:33:17 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-204-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-31T16:34:18 < Tectu> can you break an STM32 if you connect Vdd bevore GND? 2013-07-31T16:35:07 < Gargantuasauce> you'll be sinking current through every io that is grounded 2013-07-31T16:36:44 < Gargantuasauce> so maybe 2013-07-31T16:36:53 < Gargantuasauce> ....wait I am getting the protection diodes backwards 2013-07-31T16:36:57 < Gargantuasauce> I revise my answer to maybe< 2013-07-31T16:40:53 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-205-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T17:02:17 < zyp> Tectu, unclear question, impossible to answer 2013-07-31T17:03:02 < zyp> if you have nothing else connected, you don't have a circuit that current can pass through until both vcc and gnd are connected 2013-07-31T17:04:09 < zyp> however, think of it like this: since no current will pass from vcc to gnd, there would be no voltage difference, so the internal gnd will be at 3.3V 2013-07-31T17:04:45 < zyp> and if you then have other pins at 0V, the chip will see pins at -3.3V relative to internal gnd 2013-07-31T17:05:18 < zyp> if they sink a current, that current will come through the protection diodes from the internal gnd 2013-07-31T17:05:33 < zyp> so what Gargantuasauce says is correct 2013-07-31T17:06:03 < Gargantuasauce> i swear officer, it won't happen again 2013-07-31T17:06:21 < zyp> if you have a strong enough ground connection through the protection diodes, you'll even power the chip that way 2013-07-31T17:06:54 < zyp> and if you have a too strong connection, you'll break the protection diodes or other current paths that weren't designed to power the entire chip 2013-07-31T17:07:28 < zyp> so you probably don't want to do that. 2013-07-31T17:08:09 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T17:08:13 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 2013-07-31T17:08:13 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T17:19:22 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/web/en/press/t3450 2013-07-31T17:26:16 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T17:31:27 < dongs> zyp: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mossmann/hackrf-an-open-source-sdr-platform 2013-07-31T17:33:06 < Laurenceb> wtf 2013-07-31T17:33:17 < Laurenceb> i dont see how thats possible 2013-07-31T17:33:31 < zyp> «The hardware designs are produced in KiCad» 2013-07-31T17:33:36 < dongs> oh 2013-07-31T17:33:38 < zyp> kicad makes everything possible! 2013-07-31T17:33:38 < Laurenceb> without it being lame 2013-07-31T17:33:39 < dongs> fuggetit. 2013-07-31T17:34:08 < Laurenceb> bet it has loads of mad side-lobes and stuff 2013-07-31T17:34:55 < zyp> «The device takes full advantage of USB 2.0» 2013-07-31T17:35:29 < zyp> looks like shit compared to bladerf 2013-07-31T17:35:41 < Laurenceb> "switchable image reject filters" 2013-07-31T17:35:43 < Laurenceb> WTF 2013-07-31T17:35:51 < Laurenceb> do these guys actually know what they are doing 2013-07-31T17:35:55 < Laurenceb> no way 2013-07-31T17:36:12 < Laurenceb> looks like they might know how to do pro RF 2013-07-31T17:36:19 < zyp> oh, lpc43xx 2013-07-31T17:36:27 < dongs> Laurenceb: look at the schematics/sores 2013-07-31T17:36:30 < dongs> its all opensores newbs 2013-07-31T17:36:32 < zyp> hmm, hackrf… 2013-07-31T17:36:32 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/mossmann/hackrf/blob/master/doc/hardware/jawbreaker-schematic.pdf 2013-07-31T17:36:35 < Laurenceb> page 3 2013-07-31T17:36:37 < zyp> I've heard that before 2013-07-31T17:36:57 < Laurenceb> https://estore.rfmd.com/RFMD_Onlinestore/Products/RFMD+Parts/PID-P_RFFC5072.aspx?DC=25 2013-07-31T17:37:04 < Laurenceb> wtf are they using that for ?! 2013-07-31T17:37:33 < zyp> ah 2013-07-31T17:37:36 < zyp> «We have had help from many volunteers including Benjamin Vernoux, …» 2013-07-31T17:37:40 < zyp> that's titanmkd 2013-07-31T17:38:03 < dongs> Wat 2013-07-31T17:38:21 < dongs> haha 2013-07-31T17:38:22 < dongs> it is 2013-07-31T17:38:40 < Laurenceb> arg wtf 2013-07-31T17:38:45 < Laurenceb> too complex 2013-07-31T17:38:53 < Laurenceb> i cant work out wtf its doing 2013-07-31T17:39:07 * Laurenceb is trying to understand page 3 2013-07-31T17:39:20 < Laurenceb> some kind of 2 stage conversion? 2013-07-31T17:40:23 < Laurenceb> hmm looks like the RFMD thing converts to an IF, then it uses the maxim direct conversion mixer to convert to zero IF 2013-07-31T17:40:51 < Laurenceb> i dont see the point 2013-07-31T17:41:36 < Laurenceb> http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/5452 2013-07-31T17:41:53 < Laurenceb> so the IF is around 2.4GHz?! 2013-07-31T17:45:20 < dongs> kicad sounds like an awesome tool to do multighz RF designs in 2013-07-31T17:51:24 < dongs> http://pbx.mine.nu/artwork/dance.jpg oldie but goodie 2013-07-31T17:51:28 < dongs> attn Laurenceb 2013-07-31T17:54:26 * Laurenceb posts on twitter 2013-07-31T17:54:37 < dongs> link to yo twitter 2013-07-31T17:54:47 < Laurenceb> jk 2013-07-31T17:54:58 < Gargantuasauce> there is a lot of good engrish here 2013-07-31T17:55:07 < dongs> best korea? 2013-07-31T17:55:09 < dongs> im sure 2013-07-31T17:55:10 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/Lord0Lulz‎ 2013-07-31T17:55:21 < dongs> Account suspended 2013-07-31T17:55:21 < Gargantuasauce> but the best is the t-shirts 2013-07-31T17:55:24 < dongs> did you get banned for posting cp 2013-07-31T17:56:04 < Laurenceb> awww 2013-07-31T17:56:17 < Laurenceb> lord0lulz was on bbc news last night 2013-07-31T17:56:51 < Gargantuasauce> i like how people being morons on twitter is a Thing now 2013-07-31T17:56:57 < Gargantuasauce> that is somehow a big deal 2013-07-31T17:57:07 < Laurenceb> i know 2013-07-31T17:57:16 < Laurenceb> i was pmsl last nigh watching bbc news 2013-07-31T17:57:18 -!- zippe [~Adium@173.11.99.161] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T17:57:26 < Laurenceb> they were live troll baiting in the newsroom 2013-07-31T17:57:52 < Laurenceb> bbc : "whats so funny, whats the joke?" 2013-07-31T17:58:02 < Laurenceb> troll: "you ARE the joke" 2013-07-31T17:58:09 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T17:58:19 < Laurenceb> i lolled 2013-07-31T17:58:57 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-205-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T17:59:10 < dongs> In DVB-T system, CP is inserted for carrier synchronization instead of AC, but CP cannot carry any information. 2013-07-31T17:59:18 < Laurenceb> hahaha 2013-07-31T18:09:09 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T18:11:16 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-141-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T18:28:36 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2013-07-31T18:31:51 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-31T18:36:20 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T18:39:40 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T18:40:19 -!- alexn [~alexn@93.104.205.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-31T18:41:18 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T18:42:17 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.15] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T18:43:48 -!- talsit [~talsit@FL1-119-241-75-105.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T18:44:46 -!- MrM0bius [~Joey@91.192.66.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T18:50:16 -!- BjoernC [~BjoernC@dyndsl-031-150-166-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-31T19:00:31 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T19:02:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T19:06:09 -!- ds2 [noinf@netblock-66-245-251-24.dslextreme.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T19:15:50 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T19:16:59 < gxti> CP has no entropy? 2013-07-31T19:20:47 < jpa-> not everything with entropy can carry information 2013-07-31T19:21:27 < jpa-> maybe the CP packet is just too tight for any payload 2013-07-31T19:26:21 < gxti> i guess i still have a lot to learn about CP 2013-07-31T19:27:55 < jpa-> well it's like with most protocols - you don't really get a real feel for it until you do it yourself in a real world situation 2013-07-31T19:28:05 < Lt_Lemming> hmmm, probably should start on this STM32 based RFID controller 2013-07-31T19:28:51 < zyp> what rfid controller? 2013-07-31T19:29:10 < Lt_Lemming> zyp, designed to use an TTL serial RFID module 2013-07-31T19:29:28 < Lt_Lemming> basically upgrading a similar board I have that is AVR based 2013-07-31T19:29:30 < zyp> oh, that's boring 2013-07-31T19:29:45 < jpa-> :) 2013-07-31T19:29:48 < Lt_Lemming> but want to be able to do encryption over the network etc 2013-07-31T19:30:02 < Lt_Lemming> stop people sniffing the RFID codes off the network 2013-07-31T19:31:47 < jpa-> why not just slap a carambola board together with the module, pipe over ssh and call it a day? 2013-07-31T19:32:10 < zyp> that sounds even more boring :) 2013-07-31T19:32:18 < Lt_Lemming> because this board is tiny, 40 x 65 mm, and has everything other than the RFID controller onboard 2013-07-31T19:32:39 < Lt_Lemming> the only reason I didn't put the RFID onboard is there are sooo many options that it's too hard to put them all on one board 2013-07-31T19:32:52 < jpa-> carambola is 35x45 mm :P 2013-07-31T19:33:09 < zyp> Lt_Lemming, is it really? 2013-07-31T19:33:17 < Lt_Lemming> link jpa-? 2013-07-31T19:33:25 < jpa-> Lt_Lemming: http://shop.8devices.com/wifi4things/carambola 2013-07-31T19:33:34 < Lt_Lemming> zyp, I know of at least 6 different protocols off the top of my head 2013-07-31T19:33:54 < zyp> yes, and I bet TRF7970A speaks all of them 2013-07-31T19:33:56 < jpa-> zyp: a boring task done quickly is better than boring task with a lot of work :) 2013-07-31T19:34:01 < zyp> as long as you're talking 13.56MHz :) 2013-07-31T19:34:09 < Lt_Lemming> no, I'm not 2013-07-31T19:34:20 < Lt_Lemming> the local space uses 125KHz 2013-07-31T19:34:41 < zyp> ok, I'll just shut the fuck up and do something useful instead 2013-07-31T19:35:07 < Lt_Lemming> jpa-, that would probably add up a lot larger once you add the MOSFET and psu to make it plug and play 2013-07-31T19:35:54 < jpa-> Lt_Lemming: by stacking them, i don't think so; but whatever 2013-07-31T19:37:55 < zyp> jpa-, what do you think would be a decent way to control SPI over USB? 2013-07-31T19:38:16 < Lt_Lemming> FT232 chips can do SPI 2013-07-31T19:38:27 < Lt_Lemming> there are a number of USB - serial chips that can do similar 2013-07-31T19:38:33 < zyp> no, I mean protocol 2013-07-31T19:39:22 < zyp> preferably I'd like to use control commands, so I can implement it for «free» 2013-07-31T19:39:31 < jpa-> zyp: bulk transfer out, bulk transfer in, control endpoint for chip-select? 2013-07-31T19:40:15 < jpa-> hmm.. control is a bit crappy for bidirectional, right? 2013-07-31T19:40:24 < zyp> yes, that's why I wonder 2013-07-31T19:40:39 < zyp> for I2C I have separate read and write commands, so that's all nice 2013-07-31T19:41:07 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:290:f5ff:fecd:201e] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T19:41:31 < jpa-> if you can set a maximum packet size (64 bytes?), it's not a big problem.. just keep the previous result in a buffer and overwrite if no-one bothered to read it 2013-07-31T19:41:45 < zyp> that's what I'm considering 2013-07-31T19:42:18 < jpa-> sounds good to me if it's only for low-bandwidth stuff 2013-07-31T19:43:14 < zyp> well, I just want to talk to the NFC chip without having to recompile the code every time I want to test something :) 2013-07-31T19:43:44 < arnonh> i would look at the buspirate and versalon 2013-07-31T19:43:51 < arnonh> about the spi 2013-07-31T19:43:52 < DanteA> О 2013-07-31T19:44:00 < zyp> that also sounds irrelevant 2013-07-31T19:44:18 < zyp> doesn't buspirate implement their own shell over virtual serial? 2013-07-31T19:44:25 < zyp> that's way too much work 2013-07-31T19:44:32 < jpa-> zyp: if this was chibios, i would just make a command for the shell :) 2013-07-31T19:44:47 < jpa-> it's very nice for debugging stuff 2013-07-31T19:45:17 < zyp> I like making control requests, then I can easily call them from python scripts 2013-07-31T19:45:25 < zyp> or python interactive 2013-07-31T19:46:38 < arnonh> they also have some thing similar 2013-07-31T19:46:42 < arnonh> http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/SPI 2013-07-31T19:50:13 -!- DanteA [~X@host-143-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T19:56:24 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:6a5d:43ff:fe0b:6b25] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T19:56:28 < englishman> butt pirate 2013-07-31T20:00:13 -!- piezo [~piezo@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:01:04 -!- piezoid [~piezo@2a01:e34:ee89:5a0:6a5d:43ff:fe0b:6b25] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T20:04:19 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:04:57 -!- trepidaciousMBR [~trepidaci@176.62.208.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T20:05:25 -!- piezo [~piezo@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-07-31T20:05:58 -!- DanteA [~X@host-143-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:07:44 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/E9aSs <- I guess this should do the trick 2013-07-31T20:07:55 < zyp> ah, forgot chip select 2013-07-31T20:08:31 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/dSTtL <- there 2013-07-31T20:13:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.225.23] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:40:59 -!- bsdfox [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:43:07 < jpa-> zyp: laks never keeps amazing me.. i looked into making a simple usb class driver with nuttx this week and it seems it'll be atleast 1000 lines no matter how i do it 2013-07-31T20:43:19 < jpa-> *never stops 2013-07-31T20:43:25 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T20:43:42 -!- bsdfox_ [~Bob@unaffiliated/bsdfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T20:43:50 < zyp> well, it's currently quite limited 2013-07-31T20:44:11 < jpa-> that uint32_t* cast is a bit funny looking though 2013-07-31T20:44:16 < zyp> but yeah, I'm lazy, so I prefer designing stuff to be simple 2013-07-31T20:44:19 < zyp> I know 2013-07-31T20:44:35 < zyp> it's on the list of stuff I want to fix when I clean up the API 2013-07-31T20:44:42 < zippe> jpa-: greg does love his boilerplate code, doesn't he? 2013-07-31T20:44:50 < jpa-> zippe: yep :) 2013-07-31T20:44:57 < zippe> jpa-: I had to really restrain myself with the FTDI driver 2013-07-31T20:45:05 < jpa-> zippe: and pompous apis 2013-07-31T20:45:09 < zippe> jpa-: and the composite driver stuff … argh 2013-07-31T20:45:44 < zippe> jpa-: On the flipside… he writes a metric assload of code 2013-07-31T20:46:07 < zippe> If I could just talk him out of those goddamn counting semaphores 2013-07-31T20:46:23 < zyp> hmm 2013-07-31T20:46:46 < zyp> did SPI_DR always check bus transaction size? 2013-07-31T20:46:58 < jpa-> zippe: what's wrong with the semaphores? 2013-07-31T20:47:55 < jpa-> though i've never understood how the heck does nuttx do priority inheritance for semaphores.. it's not like there is any record of who is "holding" a semaphore 2013-07-31T20:48:15 < zyp> I've always used 32-bit definitions for all registers, on F3 I get 16-bit transfers from SPI when I write DR like that 2013-07-31T20:49:28 < zyp> I'm a bit confused here, because the data size field is set to 8 bits 2013-07-31T20:49:57 < zyp> and I'm pretty certain F4 doesn't have this behavior 2013-07-31T20:50:09 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-141-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: ] 2013-07-31T20:50:17 < jpa-> does it work if you write it as uint8_t? 2013-07-31T20:50:21 < zyp> yes 2013-07-31T20:50:39 < jpa-> definitely funny 2013-07-31T20:51:27 < zyp> if I write 0x1234 into the register, it goes onto the bus as 0x3412 2013-07-31T20:53:04 < zyp> ah, it's documented 2013-07-31T20:53:05 < jpa-> and the same code works on F4? (i.e. the compiler isn't doing anything crazy?) 2013-07-31T20:53:08 < jpa-> ah 2013-07-31T20:53:22 < zyp> «When the data frame size fits into one byte (less than or equal to 8 bits), data packing is used automatically when any read or write 16-bit access is performed on the SPIx_DR register.» 2013-07-31T20:53:53 < zyp> I tested from gdb, ruling out the compiler 2013-07-31T20:54:21 < jpa-> so 32bit access also counts as 16bit access? 2013-07-31T20:55:16 < zyp> yes, register is only 16 bit wide 2013-07-31T20:55:26 -!- h36sa [~h36sa@107-221-62-129.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:55:52 < zyp> I'm not sure how the bus is implemented, but I assume it has something like byte enable lanes, so the upper ones would just be ignored 2013-07-31T20:56:10 < jpa-> true 2013-07-31T20:56:53 < zyp> seems like there is a TXFIFO and a RXFIFO now, which F4 and older didn't have 2013-07-31T20:57:06 < zyp> so I guess the packing was added along with that 2013-07-31T20:57:21 < jpa-> it seems that STM32 keeps adding FIFOs to anything 2013-07-31T20:58:25 < jpa-> the DMA got a FIFO in STM32F40x, the FMC got a FIFO in STM32F42x, the SPI got a FIFO in STM32F3.. 2013-07-31T20:59:18 -!- Gargantuasauce_ [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T20:59:36 -!- Gargantuasauce [~Gargantua@115.23.228.113] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T20:59:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@77.67.225.23] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2013-07-31T21:00:25 -!- _BJFreeman [~bjfree@251.sub-75-196-67.myvzw.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T21:01:16 -!- _BJFreeman is now known as BJfreeman 2013-07-31T21:09:51 < zyp> wtf, this chip is also silly 2013-07-31T21:10:20 < zyp> CPHA = 1 for writes, CPHA = 0 for reads 2013-07-31T21:21:21 -!- Intelaida [bc8609a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.134.9.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-07-31T21:26:47 -!- someone_r [~Someone@129-2-129-147.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [] 2013-07-31T21:45:47 < Lt_Lemming> jpa-, that carambola module does look pretty interesting 2013-07-31T21:45:59 < Lt_Lemming> I've just had bad experiences with atheros based stuff before 2013-07-31T21:46:12 < Lt_Lemming> mostly pc hardware, but a few modems/routers as well 2013-07-31T21:46:15 < Lt_Lemming> so a bit hesitant 2013-07-31T21:51:05 -!- KennyMcCormic [~Kenny@94.28.133.144] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2013-07-31T21:51:46 < jpa-> Lt_Lemming: well, i doubt it's that bad that it wouldn't work 2013-07-31T21:52:04 < Lt_Lemming> more a stability issue, or lack thereof 2013-07-31T21:55:31 < jpa-> well i bet the other users of the carambola board would have spotted such issues already 2013-07-31T21:55:57 < Lt_Lemming> yeah I plan to check it out, but just wary of it 2013-07-31T21:56:40 < Lt_Lemming> wireless would be nice, but this thing is designed for emplaced purposes (doors and machines) so ethernet is not that much an issue 2013-07-31T21:56:59 < Lt_Lemming> and around big machines, wireless probably isn't that great an idea 2013-07-31T22:04:50 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-31T22:05:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip72-223-90-58.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T22:10:26 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-31T22:16:00 -!- Activate_for_mor [~spheric@host-33-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T22:17:03 -!- arnonh [~arnonh@bzq-79-177-160-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T22:17:51 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@ip-46-232-150-138.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T22:19:18 -!- zetaz [~arno@82.192.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T22:21:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-136-118-2.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T22:29:01 -!- gnomad [~gnomad@c-71-203-29-67.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: to sleep, perchance to dream] 2013-07-31T22:41:06 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-07-31T22:59:09 -!- Toneloc [~Toneloc@109.76.30.216] has joined ##stm32 2013-07-31T23:09:05 < Laurenceb_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/umkk0gzvrgllady/photo%20%281%29.JPG 2013-07-31T23:12:31 -!- MrMobius [~Joey@91.192.66.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-31T23:18:01 <+Steffanx> Laurenceb_ tries to push the rpi button of the sound board? 2013-07-31T23:18:16 < Thorn> batteries not included 2013-07-31T23:18:26 <+Steffanx> Go make fun of it in #highaltitude and get banned. 2013-07-31T23:19:03 < Laurenceb_> lol Steffanx 2013-07-31T23:19:14 < zyp> looks heavy 2013-07-31T23:19:40 < Laurenceb_> looks epic fail heavy 2013-07-31T23:20:02 <+Steffanx> Which one is this Laurenceb_? PIEx? 2013-07-31T23:20:12 <+Steffanx> or wahtever it's called 2013-07-31T23:20:25 < Laurenceb_> dunno read the scrollback :P 2013-07-31T23:21:09 -!- DanteA [~X@host-143-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-31T23:21:10 <+Steffanx> Can you show us photos of your first one? 2013-07-31T23:21:38 <+Steffanx> http://vimeo.com/15190485 that one 2013-07-31T23:21:40 < Laurenceb_> http://whenrainhurts.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/p8140039.jpg 2013-07-31T23:22:09 <+Steffanx> No, not you first kid.. your first balloon 2013-07-31T23:22:19 < Laurenceb_> lolling 2013-07-31T23:23:26 < Laurenceb_> http://ukhas.org.uk/_media/projects:mihab:p4290016.jpg?w=500 2013-07-31T23:23:28 <+Steffanx> Im waiting 2013-07-31T23:23:53 <+Steffanx> Good boy. You even dare to post that here. 2013-07-31T23:23:57 < Laurenceb_> lol 2013-07-31T23:24:06 <+Steffanx> Unless that's not yours 2013-07-31T23:24:13 < Laurenceb_> no its mine 2013-07-31T23:24:18 -!- zetaz [~arno@82.192.82.79.rev.sfr.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2013-07-31T23:24:26 < Laurenceb_> included camera, cutdown and sms link 2013-07-31T23:24:29 <+Steffanx> See.. yours is NOTHING better. 2013-07-31T23:24:46 < Laurenceb_> its massively better 2013-07-31T23:25:07 <+Steffanx> By the looks of it.. not way. 2013-07-31T23:25:16 < Laurenceb_> many more features 2013-07-31T23:26:09 <+Steffanx> duct tape, Crappy soldering, http://share.naffets.nl/wut-20130731-222553.jpg 2013-07-31T23:26:58 <+Steffanx> My 2 cents 2013-07-31T23:26:59 < Laurenceb_> but not off the shelf modules 2013-07-31T23:27:58 <+Steffanx> Whoa, you are wonderful. 2013-07-31T23:29:04 <+Steffanx> For me there isn't really a difference between your hacked together project and that other hacked together project (without duct tape for now) 2013-07-31T23:29:24 <+Steffanx> Why I even argue about this. 2013-07-31T23:50:47 < BrainDamage> internet, etc 2013-07-31T23:56:06 -!- Niedar [~nnscript@ip68-110-154-15.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Log closed Thu Aug 01 00:00:40 2013