--- Log opened Tue Mar 01 00:00:12 2016 --- Day changed Tue Mar 01 2016 2016-03-01T00:00:12 < karlp> heh, atmel newsletter, new parts, no mention of acquisition 2016-03-01T00:00:13 < Laurenceb_> yeah bitbang fails for 1wire 2016-03-01T00:00:19 < Laurenceb_> as you need precise timing 2016-03-01T00:01:04 < aandrew> don't know why bitbang wouldn't work with inline asm unless the protocol timing is so fast that you can't PIO it 2016-03-01T00:01:15 < aandrew> they can bitbang CAN, don't see why 1wire can't be done 2016-03-01T00:01:27 < zyp> problem is API overhead 2016-03-01T00:01:33 < karlp> if you're reaching for inline asm, you're already failing. 2016-03-01T00:01:53 < aandrew> depends on the application but generally I agree 2016-03-01T00:02:07 < aandrew> there are areas where a handful of inline asm is exactly right for the task at hand 2016-03-01T00:02:28 < zyp> yeah, plain optimized C should end up doing exactly the same as optimal asm when all you do is toggling gpios 2016-03-01T00:02:35 < aandrew> looking at all that code in the bug report though... there's a lot of pointer dereferencing going on 2016-03-01T00:02:54 < aandrew> call overhead, pointer overhead... I could see why it's fail 2016-03-01T00:03:06 < aandrew> mind you they're using the HAL so it's alreayd doomed 2016-03-01T00:06:49 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-03-01T00:09:15 < Laurenceb_> when an interrupt comes along your timing is toast 2016-03-01T00:09:33 < Laurenceb_> bitbang 1wire is going to fail 2016-03-01T00:16:39 < aandrew> nonsense 2016-03-01T00:16:47 < aandrew> you speak like you've never done anything like this before 2016-03-01T00:16:54 < aandrew> it's not *trivial* but it is straightforward 2016-03-01T00:17:07 < aandrew> when you transmit a byte or whatever the critical part is you disable interrupts 2016-03-01T00:17:20 < aandrew> if you're communicating over 1wire so much that that is infeasible then that's something else 2016-03-01T00:17:30 < aandrew> but basic bitbanging is not rocket science 2016-03-01T00:17:49 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777e74.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T00:17:51 < aandrew> is it high throughput? hell no. is it the best way forward? hardly ever. but it's absolutely doable and aboslutely reliable 2016-03-01T00:19:05 < aandrew> standard 1wire speed according to https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/126 has nothing faster than 6us 2016-03-01T00:19:14 < zyp> isn't onewire a pulse length protocol? why not timer+dma it? 2016-03-01T00:19:46 < aandrew> overdrive is faster but if all you need to do is use 1wire because some moron spec'd a part you can't switch out, you can do it 2016-03-01T00:19:57 < aandrew> zyp: another possibility, more complex though 2016-03-01T00:20:17 < zyp> meh, that's how we do ws2812, why not 1wire as well? 2016-03-01T00:20:45 < zyp> I mean, reading complicates it a bit, but you could just use input capture + dma for that 2016-03-01T00:22:16 < aandrew> that's actually a neat idea for WS2812 2016-03-01T00:22:24 < zyp> you could do all of it with a single timer, one channel for writing and one channel for reading 2016-03-01T00:22:42 < zyp> with a dma job hooked to each 2016-03-01T00:23:09 < aandrew> I think you'd want two timers although you could get away with one 2016-03-01T00:23:21 < zyp> no, one timer would work plenty 2016-03-01T00:23:35 < aandrew> I know, but it's more complex 2016-03-01T00:23:36 < zyp> two channels hooked together, output channel in open drain mode 2016-03-01T00:23:42 < zyp> no, it's less complex 2016-03-01T00:23:47 < aandrew> because your timer timing is driving or not driving the read dma as well 2016-03-01T00:24:21 < aandrew> you wouldn't want every timer interrupt to do something on the read DMA 2016-03-01T00:24:35 < aandrew> so you have more steps with each timer interrupt ot set up the read DMA, wouldn't you? 2016-03-01T00:24:39 < zyp> sure you would, it's easier that way 2016-03-01T00:25:02 < aandrew> with two timers you just write to both and the timing on the "reader" timer woudl fire a DMA read whenever needed only 2016-03-01T00:25:10 < aandrew> (just thinking out loud, I haven't done this before) 2016-03-01T00:25:11 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-01T00:25:32 < zyp> aandrew, yes, but that makes it more complex because you have to start that timer only when reading 2016-03-01T00:25:36 < zyp> otherwise you end up with the same 2016-03-01T00:25:46 < aandrew> hm? 2016-03-01T00:25:47 < aandrew> no 2016-03-01T00:25:52 < zyp> and timer config gets more complex because you have to reset at falling edge too 2016-03-01T00:25:53 < aandrew> just have long time intervals between the writes 2016-03-01T00:26:52 < zyp> I mean, if you're going to reconfig during the transaction, you could just wait with enabling the read dma channel until you start reading 2016-03-01T00:27:09 < aandrew> right 2016-03-01T00:27:25 < zyp> but my point is that it's less complicated just reading everything, because then you don't have to do anything in the middle of the transaction 2016-03-01T00:27:29 < aandrew> I was thinking of not reconfiguring, just having two data streams (write bits and read bits) and "playing" them to the DMA 2016-03-01T00:27:32 < aandrew> er timers 2016-03-01T00:27:49 < zyp> what's controlling the sequence? 2016-03-01T00:28:15 < aandrew> whatever routine you have that sets up the timer "data" that is DMA'd into them 2016-03-01T00:28:53 < zyp> any read transaction starts with a written command that tells the device to return some data, right? 2016-03-01T00:29:05 < aandrew> well I was thinking more like 2016-03-01T00:29:17 < zyp> so at some point during that, you start reading bits 2016-03-01T00:29:19 < aandrew> setup_write() and setup_read() which wouldn't have to get called until you wanted the entire sequence played 2016-03-01T00:29:44 < aandrew> then you get a dma done event and read out the data from the memory you DMA'd the read data in to 2016-03-01T00:30:07 < zyp> I don't understand what you're talking about anymore 2016-03-01T00:30:20 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-01T00:30:36 < aandrew> isn't the data you write ot the timer just period data? 2016-03-01T00:30:54 < zyp> with the internal timer remap, I think you can actually run output compare and input capture on a single OD pin even 2016-03-01T00:31:00 < zyp> so no external wiring 2016-03-01T00:31:23 < zyp> aandrew, yes 2016-03-01T00:31:48 < aandrew> ok, so let's say you have to write 16 bits and read 16 bits after 2016-03-01T00:32:07 < aandrew> so your write data is the timing data for the 1s and 0s you're sending and the delays between bits 2016-03-01T00:32:52 < aandrew> your read data is a loooooong delay while the writes take place and then a bunch of short pulses for the slave to know when to transmit + short delay + read pin events 2016-03-01T00:32:59 < zyp> in that case I would set up a 33-byte write buffer and a 32-byte read buffer, each with a dma job from a channel on a common timer 2016-03-01T00:33:07 < aandrew> right 2016-03-01T00:33:12 < aandrew> I think your way does end up being simpler 2016-03-01T00:33:19 < aandrew> especially with the ability to chain DMA or timer events 2016-03-01T00:33:33 < zyp> the last byte of the write buffer would be full on, to leave the bus high when done 2016-03-01T00:34:09 < zyp> and the 16 bytes before that would be short period, i.e. that A-delay 2016-03-01T00:34:36 < zyp> and the read buffer corresponding to those positions will then capture when the bus actually goes high 2016-03-01T00:35:09 < zyp> which you compare to the E-delay to determine whether it was 1 or 0 2016-03-01T00:37:04 < zyp> it might even be possible to use the same buffer for read and write, since the read dma job will trigger after the write dma job 2016-03-01T00:37:18 < Laurenceb_> aandrew> when you transmit a byte or whatever the critical part is you disable interrupts 2016-03-01T00:37:23 < Laurenceb_> what could possibly go wrong 2016-03-01T00:37:42 < Laurenceb_> having said all this, one way which could work is a timer isr 2016-03-01T00:37:48 < zyp> Laurenceb_, or you could wrap it in a service ISR 2016-03-01T00:37:51 < Laurenceb_> then a state machine to toggle the io 2016-03-01T00:38:02 < zyp> with a high enough priority that it doesn't get preempted 2016-03-01T00:38:04 < Laurenceb_> ^ 2016-03-01T00:38:05 < aandrew> ... nothing? obviously you have to be careful with what you're doing but again this isn't rocket science 2016-03-01T00:38:25 < Sync_> rocket surgery. 2016-03-01T00:38:35 < Laurenceb_> once you get to a complex system with lots of stuff firing off 2016-03-01T00:38:50 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: if you're getting ot that point and bitbanging 1w you've got a design flaw 2016-03-01T00:38:53 < aandrew> I agree 2016-03-01T00:38:53 < zyp> Laurenceb_, eh, running a state machine from an ISR when you're dealing with microsecond resolution isn't necessarily that smart 2016-03-01T00:38:54 < Laurenceb_> the last thing you need is disabled interrupts and tarduino style busy waits firing off 2016-03-01T00:38:57 < aandrew> but that wasn't the original point :-) 2016-03-01T00:39:22 < Laurenceb_> I've never actually use 1wire lol 2016-03-01T00:39:29 < aandrew> "shouldn't bit bang it" != "can't bit bang it" 2016-03-01T00:39:29 < Laurenceb_> how tight is the timing? 2016-03-01T00:39:31 < aandrew> I *hate* 1w 2016-03-01T00:39:39 < aandrew> I avoid it and openly mock those who use it 2016-03-01T00:39:46 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-01T00:39:57 -!- Martin90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-01T00:40:02 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: it's pretty tight, but nothing a reaosnable MCU can't PIO, although think long and hard before doing that 2016-03-01T00:40:19 < aandrew> I'd mentioned 6us above as being the tightest delay 2016-03-01T00:40:28 < Laurenceb_> well the alternative to a state machine would be a preprocessor and a buffer of io states 2016-03-01T00:40:28 < aandrew> not sure what they accept for tolerance or jitter 2016-03-01T00:40:37 < Laurenceb_> thats pretty tight 2016-03-01T00:40:40 < aandrew> I like zyp's idea with timer DMAs though 2016-03-01T00:40:49 < aandrew> although that's a fucking interrupt storm too 2016-03-01T00:40:55 < Laurenceb_> yeah but it ties up your DMA 2016-03-01T00:41:00 < aandrew> all the setup/resetup 2016-03-01T00:41:13 < Laurenceb_> might be no better option depending on how many interrupts you alrady have 2016-03-01T00:41:20 < aandrew> sure but what are you saving your DMA for? use it 2016-03-01T00:41:41 < aandrew> all that interrupt overhead could be worse than just disabling to do the 500us transfer 2016-03-01T00:41:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-01T00:42:02 < Laurenceb_> well I'm using all DAM channels on my horse monitor atm lol 2016-03-01T00:42:13 < aandrew> horse monitor? 2016-03-01T00:42:16 < Laurenceb_> ran out very quickly 2016-03-01T00:42:33 < Laurenceb_> I'm building a device to monitor horse racing 2016-03-01T00:42:40 < zyp> well, you're doing even weirder stuff 2016-03-01T00:42:48 < zyp> I assume 2016-03-01T00:42:51 < zyp> since you always do that 2016-03-01T00:42:53 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T00:42:58 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: with a backdoor to fix close races? 2016-03-01T00:43:05 < Laurenceb_> I'm shitposting on /pol/ 2016-03-01T00:43:14 < Laurenceb_> but also designing a horse monitor 2016-03-01T00:43:15 < Laurenceb_> so yes 2016-03-01T00:43:40 < Laurenceb_> aandrew: nah just a dead horse detector 2016-03-01T00:43:50 < zyp> so, what are you using the dma channels for anyway? 2016-03-01T00:43:58 < aandrew> if a horse dies in the middle of a race isn't it kind of obvious? 2016-03-01T00:44:44 < Laurenceb_> gps, spi, radio modem 2016-03-01T00:44:57 < aandrew> I'm going to be using a uart on AHB1 and DMA for PPP over cell netowrks 2016-03-01T00:45:04 -!- amstan [~amstan@107-179-152-23.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T00:45:04 -!- amstan [~amstan@107-179-152-23.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-01T00:45:04 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T00:45:09 < Laurenceb_> aandrew: hopefully ECG abnormalities can be spotted 2016-03-01T00:48:04 < aandrew> i'm confused 2016-03-01T00:48:27 < aandrew> you're watchign the horse's ECG during a race? 2016-03-01T00:48:53 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-03-01T00:49:12 < aandrew> interesting, how do you ahve this mounted to the animal so it's stable enough for a race?? 2016-03-01T00:49:32 < aandrew> do you have some kind of halter or something in the animal's chest? 2016-03-01T00:49:36 < aandrew> got pics or somethign? 2016-03-01T00:49:42 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T00:50:05 < Laurenceb_> no pics as hardware isnt ready yet 2016-03-01T00:50:06 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-01T00:50:31 < Laurenceb_> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2MAAAOSw~gRVnyPe/s-l300.jpg 2016-03-01T00:50:51 < Laurenceb_> thats used to connect to a base unit clipped onto the back of the saddle 2016-03-01T00:51:32 < Laurenceb_> we will probably have some extra straps or something too, not sure atm 2016-03-01T01:02:16 < Laurenceb_> thats not as cruel as where I work 2016-03-01T01:02:30 < Laurenceb_> where the manager taught them to call him sir 2016-03-01T01:02:35 < Laurenceb_> "sir YESSIR" 2016-03-01T01:03:59 < aandrew> heh 2016-03-01T01:04:03 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10742699 2016-03-01T01:04:08 < aandrew> all right manager steven 2016-03-01T01:04:10 < Laurenceb_> did I mention I like state machines 2016-03-01T01:04:20 < aandrew> I like state machines as well 2016-03-01T01:04:52 < aandrew> I think state machines was one of my first epiphanies as a budding sw guy 2016-03-01T01:05:07 < Laurenceb_> I probably went a bit ott with nested state machines there 2016-03-01T01:05:20 < Laurenceb_> there is a high level one and lower level spi/dma one 2016-03-01T01:06:13 < aandrew> nice little device, havne't used it before 2016-03-01T01:06:17 < aandrew> looks like it can do 433MHz 2016-03-01T01:06:45 < Laurenceb_> yup, crazy link budget too 2016-03-01T01:06:56 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting 156dB 2016-03-01T01:07:10 < aandrew> yeah I saw that, -126dBm rx sens 2016-03-01T01:07:18 < aandrew> what're you using from it ot the antenna? 2016-03-01T01:08:01 < Laurenceb_> you mean matching network? 2016-03-01T01:08:04 < Laurenceb_> direct tie 2016-03-01T01:09:14 < aandrew> hm 2016-03-01T01:10:57 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting about -136dBm rx 2016-03-01T01:11:18 < Laurenceb_> using AFC and narrowband filter 2016-03-01T01:11:33 < BrainDamage> i think we all know laurenceb is trying to improve bestiality porn performances and not horse racing, the competition is only an excuse because it's an illegal practice in the uk 2016-03-01T01:11:44 < BrainDamage> and the antenna is sticking out the horse's ass 2016-03-01T01:12:15 -!- pid [~pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T01:13:14 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777e74.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-01T01:13:21 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T01:13:22 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-01T01:13:22 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T01:14:34 < aandrew> BrainDamage> and the antenna is sticking out the horse's ass 2016-03-01T01:14:39 < aandrew> didn't need that visual, lol 2016-03-01T01:15:09 < BrainDamage> you're welcome 2016-03-01T01:17:24 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-01T01:28:20 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imysevkcgpaulqyo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-01T01:47:15 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqnwaljwlxbpcouz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T01:55:24 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-01T01:58:23 < Laurenceb_> https://veuwer.com/i/3o13.png 2016-03-01T01:59:49 < kakimir> wgat 2016-03-01T02:00:00 < kakimir> cjc,1! 2016-03-01T02:00:18 < kakimir> hello senzuals 2016-03-01T02:06:17 < kakimir> freelance is the poo 2016-03-01T02:06:33 < kakimir> they barely ever hire anyone 2016-03-01T02:07:07 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T02:09:07 < kakimir> circuut? 2016-03-01T02:11:09 < kakimir> bad 2016-03-01T02:12:07 < kakimir> I have been having non elecrrical tasks for a few days 2016-03-01T02:14:59 < kakimir> its how it was 2016-03-01T02:19:10 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T02:19:23 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T02:19:27 < kakimir> also how it therefore still is 2016-03-01T02:21:55 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccag0LbXIAAgQX2.jpg:large 2016-03-01T02:22:00 < Laurenceb_> in energy we trust 2016-03-01T02:32:02 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T02:32:31 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T02:33:47 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T02:33:47 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T02:34:33 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T02:34:34 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T02:35:14 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T02:35:33 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T02:35:40 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-01T02:46:33 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-03-01T02:55:19 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5GQ9g4Gl/IMG_1392.JPG 2016-03-01T02:55:28 < ReadError> check out my vapist device i grabbed yesterday 2016-03-01T02:57:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:7e00:257b:268b:d7f:565c] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-01T03:07:50 < englishman> dongs, be sure to get your new free bro3 charging cable before your house explodes 2016-03-01T03:10:45 < dongs> is ther a free recall? 2016-03-01T03:10:47 < lorenzo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/740492/cant-find-clit 2016-03-01T03:10:48 < lorenzo> really 2016-03-01T03:10:59 < dongs> stopped reading after ubuntu 2016-03-01T03:11:16 < englishman> https://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/warranty-service-and-recovery/powercord 2016-03-01T03:11:58 < dongs> wait, AC ~cord~? hahaha 2016-03-01T03:12:15 < englishman> ? 2016-03-01T03:12:20 < dongs> i thought i could at least get a free power adapter 2016-03-01T03:12:23 < ReadError> http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/29/technology/judge-apple-feds/index.html 2016-03-01T03:12:25 < dongs> the cord is fucking useless i have a million of htem 2016-03-01T03:12:31 < ReadError> A federal magistrate-judge in New York City has ruled that the U.S. government can't force Apple to hack an iPhone to investigate a drug dealer. 2016-03-01T03:12:31 < englishman> is it just the fucking cord 2016-03-01T03:12:34 < englishman> aw damn 2016-03-01T03:12:35 < dongs> yes 2016-03-01T03:13:31 < dongs> ReadError: nobody gives a fuck about apple or their shitty hardware 2016-03-01T03:13:42 < dongs> they keep fuckiing with the government, they're gonna get erased 2016-03-01T03:13:45 < ReadError> apple has way bigger balls than google 2016-03-01T03:13:50 < dongs> who cares 2016-03-01T03:13:51 < ReadError> google bends over and spreads 2016-03-01T03:15:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-01T03:24:18 < Laurenceb_> a system with 4 digit pin is gunna get hacked 2016-03-01T03:24:41 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ really 2016-03-01T03:24:51 < ReadError> it kills the device after a certain amount of failures 2016-03-01T03:24:55 < BrainDamage> nope 2016-03-01T03:25:03 < BrainDamage> it kills the data, not the encryption key 2016-03-01T03:25:09 < BrainDamage> and that can be prevented 2016-03-01T03:25:16 < BrainDamage> because it's external to the soc 2016-03-01T03:25:34 < BrainDamage> and it even backups th data on apple's cloud 2016-03-01T03:25:39 < Laurenceb_> really I thought it wiped the key 2016-03-01T03:26:15 < BrainDamage> to my knowledge, and i've tried to confirm it over multiple places 2016-03-01T03:26:26 < BrainDamage> they backup the encrypted data on the cloud, and wipe it 2016-03-01T03:26:32 < BrainDamage> the key is left inside the soc 2016-03-01T03:26:40 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-03-01T03:27:12 < BrainDamage> this way if the user manages to recover the phone, he can restore the encrypted data from the backup, unlock the encryption key in the soc 2016-03-01T03:27:20 < BrainDamage> and decrypt the data 2016-03-01T03:28:13 < BrainDamage> what i don't know if there are some extra lockdowns on the key unlock that say, require apple's "ok" to do more attempts 2016-03-01T03:28:28 < BrainDamage> or if you restore the encrypted data, you can just try again 2016-03-01T03:28:41 < ReadError> either way 2016-03-01T03:28:50 < ReadError> i respect the balls on that gayguy 2016-03-01T03:29:40 < BrainDamage> in the case of no further lockdown, one can easily devise multiple schemes where the data is never erased on the main memory 2016-03-01T03:29:49 < BrainDamage> and just do pin bruteforce 2016-03-01T03:30:03 < BrainDamage> until the encryption key is unlocked 2016-03-01T03:30:20 < BrainDamage> ( or even just backup and restore the ciphertext ) 2016-03-01T03:32:50 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/bdMIs8Z 2016-03-01T03:32:54 < ReadError> next kickscammer 2016-03-01T03:35:03 < dongs> isnt that the nixie garbage 2016-03-01T03:35:12 < dongs> useless as fuck 2016-03-01T03:35:18 < dongs> lol @ that camera image on phone 2016-03-01T03:35:29 < dongs> with detail and etc that can never be taken by that piec of shit 2016-03-01T03:43:10 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T03:51:05 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-01T03:51:21 < Laurenceb_> like the CGI cuz they cant actually build it 2016-03-01T03:52:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-01T03:53:02 < lorenzo> lol they got 500k funding by intel for that 2016-03-01T03:53:05 < lorenzo> they used to make cpus 2016-03-01T03:54:11 < Laurenceb_> wtf why 2016-03-01T03:54:18 < dongs> probly they used intel edison or hwatever 2016-03-01T03:54:19 < dongs> or wanted to use 2016-03-01T03:54:34 < lorenzo> https://jobs.lever.co/flynixie/6c795d85-71ac-41c6-bba1-1a10f09bb464 2016-03-01T03:54:38 < lorenzo> "Experience or very good instincts about flight physics and signal processing of sensor data" 2016-03-01T03:54:43 < lorenzo> very good instincts haha 2016-03-01T03:55:08 < lorenzo> > Comfortable writing code for bare metal or for an operating system 2016-03-01T03:55:11 < lorenzo> > Passion for photography 2016-03-01T03:55:12 < lorenzo> okay 2016-03-01T03:55:48 < dongs> they might as well just go straight to freelancer.com 2016-03-01T03:55:53 < dongs> and hire some pakis 2016-03-01T03:56:12 < dongs> errrr 2016-03-01T03:56:16 < dongs> that opening movie on flynixie.com 2016-03-01T03:56:57 < lorenzo> http://www.theinquirer.net/IMG/246/301246/nixie-flying-wearable-drone.jpg 2016-03-01T03:56:59 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-01T03:57:07 < Laurenceb_> why does this exist 2016-03-01T03:57:13 < Laurenceb_> were they high or something 2016-03-01T03:57:28 < lorenzo> Laurenceb_: I think they make these projects so that other people can laugh at them, that's the sole purpose 2016-03-01T03:57:33 < dongs> internet of dongs 2016-03-01T03:57:40 < lorenzo> just like the bluetooth toilet, or the wifi coffee machine 2016-03-01T03:57:47 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-03-01T04:00:28 < dongs> thats what half of htem do 2016-03-01T04:00:36 < lorenzo> https://www.reddit.com/r/shittykickstarters 2016-03-01T04:01:41 < lorenzo> who 2016-03-01T04:02:39 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-01T04:03:34 < lorenzo> is their hair style even legal 2016-03-01T04:05:20 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/PCB-design-using-geber/ 2016-03-01T04:05:59 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Need-RTOS-guru-able-for-9804674/ 2016-03-01T04:06:03 < dongs> why are all tehse pakis bidding 2016-03-01T04:10:11 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.83.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T04:14:45 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-01T04:17:21 < zauslande> Guess they're dropping STM32s on them, since this is a STM32 discussion area. 2016-03-01T04:19:41 < dongs> wat 2016-03-01T04:20:55 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-01T04:22:56 < englishman> but chinese 2016-03-01T04:22:57 < englishman> and not pro 2016-03-01T04:23:12 < englishman> as notpro as oculus 2016-03-01T04:25:45 < dongs> you got something better to do? 2016-03-01T04:27:22 < dongs> layout in dorkcad must be pretty tiring 2016-03-01T04:27:24 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-01T04:27:50 < dongs> ah, spacex stuff. 2016-03-01T04:29:13 < dongs> i think your time will be better spent watching porn 2016-03-01T04:29:16 < dongs> than trying new kikecad 2016-03-01T04:29:36 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T04:29:37 -!- michael_l [phenoboy@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-01T04:29:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/pcb-layout-optimization/ haha 2016-03-01T04:30:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-01T04:35:34 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host77-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-01T04:35:45 < zauslande> preorders are crowdfunding 2016-03-01T04:42:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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[~lorenzo@host77-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T12:28:31 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/AXj88pK.png Laurenceb-class trolling 2016-03-01T12:50:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-176.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-01T12:52:13 < dongs> any simple formula for heat dissipation on pcb 2016-03-01T12:52:21 < dongs> to compare say 2L/4L/6L 2016-03-01T12:52:56 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/pcb_calc_tb oooOoOOOoO 2016-03-01T12:58:53 < PeterM> i use mental graphics hyperlynx 2016-03-01T12:59:02 < dongs> haha, fuck off, thats too rich for me 2016-03-01T12:59:44 < PeterM> yeah, i didnt pay for it, fuck that 2016-03-01T12:59:57 < PeterM> the amount i use it doesnt warrant the cosst 2016-03-01T13:00:54 < dongs> isnt there some rule of thumb stuff 2016-03-01T13:01:03 < dongs> im seeing liek 20C drop in same ambient between 2L and 6L 2016-03-01T13:01:05 < dongs> with same device 2016-03-01T13:01:07 < dongs> somehow I dont believe 2016-03-01T13:01:48 < PeterM> on an infinite board with no other components yeah the extra copepr would do that 2016-03-01T13:02:14 < PeterM> but you're probabyl notmaking it on an infinite board, nor are you not putting anything else on there either 2016-03-01T13:02:23 < dongs> hmm. 2016-03-01T13:02:39 < zyp> dongs, how's the planes on 2L vs 6L? 2016-03-01T13:02:59 < dongs> well duh 2016-03-01T13:03:13 < dongs> but I tried to keep gnd pretty wide under the part and it goes into more gnd right outside of it 2016-03-01T13:03:37 < dongs> thre's a C-like thing of vcc/signal stuff surrounding, but a solid tab going to rest of board after that. 2016-03-01T13:03:45 < dongs> so its probly as good as it can be on 2L tehrmal-wise 2016-03-01T13:03:58 < dongs> 6L is gnd, power layers. 2016-03-01T13:04:04 < zyp> well, I assume top in either case is full of signals, but is bottom a pretty much solid plane? 2016-03-01T13:04:05 < dongs> usaul stuff 2016-03-01T13:04:12 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-01T13:04:40 < zyp> does 6L have multiple ground planes? what's on which layer? 2016-03-01T13:04:41 < dongs> and its a qfn, and its stitched into gnd plane on both board etc. 2016-03-01T13:04:54 < dongs> yeah there's gnd on L2 and L5 2016-03-01T13:05:51 < zyp> I bet it's partly because distance L1-L2 is much shorter on 6L board, so there's less thermal resistance through the vias from the thermal pad 2016-03-01T13:06:03 < dongs> mhm 2016-03-01T13:06:07 < zyp> and then partly because you've got multiple planes 2016-03-01T13:06:22 < Lux> are there any arm socs in sip modules with ram/flas integrated you can actually buy ? 2016-03-01T13:06:40 < dongs> lux, whatever garbage CHIP used from allwhiner 2016-03-01T13:06:47 < Lux> semms like cool stuff, but only for the high volume market 2016-03-01T13:06:52 < dongs> but yeah, there's little SOM things in castellated-via PCBs 2016-03-01T13:06:58 < Lux> no, that's a huge tqfp thing 2016-03-01T13:07:02 < Lux> like the allwinner a10 2016-03-01T13:07:15 < dongs> no, their original shit was a module w/bga 2016-03-01T13:07:18 < dongs> then they switched to qfp. 2016-03-01T13:07:33 < dongs> https://aw-som.com/images/MOD-WIFI-BT-8723AS_sm.jpg 2016-03-01T13:07:33 < Lux> yeah, i got that one lying here 2016-03-01T13:07:34 < dongs> this kinda shit 2016-03-01T13:07:52 < Lux> yeah, that's what i'm looking for 2016-03-01T13:07:56 < dongs> https://aw-som.com/images/a20_sodimm_module.jpg 2016-03-01T13:08:05 < dongs> or this crap in DDR so-dimm form factor :) 2016-03-01T13:08:06 < dongs> etc. 2016-03-01T13:08:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-176.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T13:08:15 < Lux> far too huge :) 2016-03-01T13:08:37 < dongs> http://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Iteadstudio_Ibox_board_top_large.jpg 2016-03-01T13:08:45 < dongs> the A10/A20 core thing. 2016-03-01T13:08:46 < dongs> yea big 2016-03-01T13:09:28 < Lux> http://www.princo.com.tw/www/module/download%20files/Computing%20SiP%20solution%20DM.pdf 2016-03-01T13:09:34 < Lux> that seems pretty neat 2016-03-01T13:09:57 < Lux> dunno if that's still active tough or available to buy 2016-03-01T13:10:16 < karlp> Lux: gumstix sells plenty too, so does http://www.acmesystems.it/ 2016-03-01T13:10:22 < dongs> oyea gumstix 2016-03-01T13:10:24 < Lux> beagle bone black on a chip 2016-03-01T13:10:27 < dongs> their shit is pretty small 2016-03-01T13:10:39 < karlp> there's a wiki page with a list of som makers somewhere, 2016-03-01T13:10:46 < karlp> just depends how much you want to pay 2016-03-01T13:11:03 < karlp> if you're expecting it to be raspi cost, but som with docs, you might be a little dissapointed 2016-03-01T13:11:25 < karlp> http://www.variscite.com/imx6-soms?gclid=CJWP-patn8sCFcSRGwodhkwHmg 2016-03-01T13:11:31 < karlp> http://keith-koep.com/en/products/products-trizeps/trizeps-vii-features/?gclid=CKOJgpitn8sCFZadGwodtLsAfA 2016-03-01T13:11:42 < karlp> like, there's plenty, pick a soc, add "som" and search for it on google. 2016-03-01T13:12:45 < dongs> yea 2016-03-01T13:12:48 < karlp> http://elinux.org/Computer-on-Module for more 2016-03-01T13:13:14 < dongs> why is imx still around 2016-03-01T13:13:16 < dongs> its such aids 2016-03-01T13:13:25 < dongs> freescale should kill it off 2016-03-01T13:13:26 < Lux> why is it such aids ? 2016-03-01T13:13:36 < dongs> its just shit, also super buggy 2016-03-01T13:13:39 < Lux> you mean nxp 2016-03-01T13:13:41 < dongs> there's like 9000 pages of errata 2016-03-01T13:13:50 < Lux> iirc nxp bought freescale 2016-03-01T13:13:57 < dongs> well whoever bought whoever should kill it off 2016-03-01T13:13:58 < dongs> yes 2016-03-01T13:14:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-01T13:14:46 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T13:14:49 < Lux> karlp: yeah, i allready did some searches on that 2016-03-01T13:15:44 < Lux> i'd just like it a size smaller than all those soms available, kinda like the arietta g25, but with a bit more horsepower 2016-03-01T13:16:00 < karlp> smaller, cheaper, faster... 2016-03-01T13:16:13 < karlp> gumstix has two of those... 2016-03-01T13:16:32 < karlp> if you want truly small, you shouldn't be looking at a SoM, because you ðll still need your own carrier board. 2016-03-01T13:16:39 < karlp> you don't get to have two cakes ;) 2016-03-01T13:16:51 < Lux> right :) 2016-03-01T13:16:57 < Lux> annoying requirements 2016-03-01T13:18:06 < dongs> whats this for 2016-03-01T13:18:08 < dongs> shitty quadcopter? 2016-03-01T13:19:00 < Lux> if it ever gets finished 2016-03-01T13:19:21 < Lux> yep, shitty quadcopter 2016-03-01T13:19:31 < dongs> jesus you stiull havent started monetizing that shit? 2016-03-01T13:19:38 < dongs> just set looptime to zero and morons will pile in droves to buy it 2016-03-01T13:19:58 < Lux> cleanflight retards 2016-03-01T13:20:23 < Lux> it's aiming for another market with even dumber customers 2016-03-01T13:20:39 < Lux> if that's even possible :) 2016-03-01T13:22:14 < Lux> btw the origin gps supplier still had a nofly zano drone at their booth at the embedded world 2016 2016-03-01T13:24:17 < Lux> that thing actually looks pretty neat: http://www.variscite.com/products/system-on-module-som/cortex-a9/dart-mx6-cpu-freescale-imx6 2016-03-01T13:24:53 < Lux> same size as the arietta 2016-03-01T13:25:17 < dongs> ya imx is non-starter 2016-03-01T13:25:22 < dongs> i'd rather take some chink chip 2016-03-01T13:25:23 < dongs> or broadcum 2016-03-01T13:25:28 < dongs> lux, wat about RPI cm 2016-03-01T13:25:57 < dongs> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/ still too big? 2016-03-01T13:26:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T13:27:28 < Lux> i wonder if they also make it with the 2836 or 2837 2016-03-01T13:27:32 < dongs> no they dont 2016-03-01T13:27:43 < dongs> cuz those are not PoP 2016-03-01T13:27:52 < dongs> and no space for sdram on that module cuz they're newbs @ routing 2016-03-01T13:28:46 < Sync_> meh, idk, the imx is not too bad 2016-03-01T13:33:59 < Lux> right that PoP stuff 2016-03-01T13:34:15 < Lux> is that really so hard/expensive to manufacture ? 2016-03-01T13:34:42 < dongs> no, its cheaper 2016-03-01T13:34:50 < dongs> but its up to SoC manufacturer to make it or not 2016-03-01T13:35:11 < Lux> but you probably need >10k units or so to get it manufactured right ? 2016-03-01T13:35:19 < dongs> you mean assembly? 2016-03-01T13:35:22 < dongs> no assembly doenst do anything extra 2016-03-01T13:35:27 < Lux> yeah 2016-03-01T13:35:30 < dongs> you plop the chip down, then dram on top of it 2016-03-01T13:35:33 < dongs> and reflow both at once 2016-03-01T13:35:55 < Lux> so putting the ram chip on top is not like super critical ? 2016-03-01T13:35:59 < dongs> no 2016-03-01T13:36:09 < dongs> it will do same thing as reflow on slightly inaccurately placed parts 2016-03-01T13:36:18 < dongs> it'll pull itself into place once the solder is melted 2016-03-01T13:36:26 < Lux> makes sense 2016-03-01T13:38:17 < karlp> instead of rpi compute, rpi zero? 2016-03-01T13:38:33 < dongs> yeah but you cant use it on anything 2016-03-01T13:38:35 < Lux> just a guy told me that PoP stuff is hard to make, that's why i ask 2016-03-01T13:38:40 < karlp> imx shit isn't the end of the world is it really? 2016-03-01T13:38:50 < karlp> imx23 looked kinda shit, but imx6 is fucking everywhere 2016-03-01T13:39:06 < karlp> well supported, even if it has errata, at least you have the sheets and the errata, unlike bcm 2016-03-01T13:39:43 < dongs> hjeh 2016-03-01T13:41:02 < Steffanx> Should have used freelancer.com for routing job 2016-03-01T13:46:53 < dongs> they probably did 2016-03-01T13:46:55 < dongs> thats why its shit 2016-03-01T13:47:02 < dongs> all of rageberry routing is awful 2016-03-01T13:47:51 -!- kuldeep 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We've designed in some DC-DC bricks like that recently, and I also wondered about the structure. 2016-03-01T14:15:22 < dekar__> Though I had assumed they'd have more layers. 2016-03-01T14:44:34 < Sync_> crt: ti has some appnotes sharing the gerbers 2016-03-01T14:49:14 < dongs> lol fucking aquarium air pump 2016-03-01T14:49:16 < dongs> waht ghetto shit 2016-03-01T14:50:20 < dongs> k bbl 2016-03-01T15:23:14 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T15:51:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-01T16:14:14 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T16:16:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T16:19:33 < emeb> so this morning I get an email from some rando asking me why my board designs don't use Rext as detailed in ST's AN2867. 2016-03-01T16:20:02 < emeb> "Someone on the Internet is WRONG!" 2016-03-01T16:20:15 < Steffanx> You linked him to zypsnips? 2016-03-01T16:20:43 < emeb> no - what does zyp have to say about that? 2016-03-01T16:21:07 < karlp> or fdopen remvoe for great glory iirc 2016-03-01T16:21:24 < Steffanx> Crystal-load-wisdom.txt emrb 2016-03-01T16:21:26 < Steffanx> Emeb 2016-03-01T16:21:46 < karlp> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/crystal-load-wisdom.txt 2016-03-01T16:21:59 < emeb> yep. 2016-03-01T16:22:31 < emeb> I've never seen it used. I actually went through the calculations once for one of my xtals and it was such a small value that meh. 2016-03-01T16:23:30 < jpa-> bah.. i opened that to learn the truth behind Rext, and instead i find my own ramblings :F 2016-03-01T16:24:09 < emeb> One of my clients got all excited a few years back because a design I did for him didn't have it and he'd read all the docs and "oh ur doin' it rong". 2016-03-01T16:24:28 < emeb> I pointed out that none of ST's devboards used it. He shut up. 2016-03-01T16:24:47 < Steffanx> Hah jpa- 2016-03-01T16:25:38 < emeb> I could see that it might provide some reduction in power if you're doing an extremely low power design. 2016-03-01T16:25:40 < BrainDamage> if you're in that need of a precision reference you should be using a module anyway 2016-03-01T16:26:22 < emeb> Or if you're using some whacko crystal that breaks into overtone oscillations easily. 2016-03-01T16:29:07 < emeb> OTOH - wrt the loading caps. I've done a couple boards where the 2*Cl - parasitic rule of thumb failed. 2016-03-01T16:29:36 < jpa-> i can see the point of adding pads for Rext, yeah 2016-03-01T16:30:37 < emeb> I've seen this on STM32F405RGT6 parts - if you have an 18pf xtal and put in > ~25pf for the load caps then the oscillator starts very slowly or not at all. This prevents the USB DFU bootloader from starting. 2016-03-01T16:31:04 < emeb> Doesn't seem to happen on other family parts though. 2016-03-01T16:32:07 < englishman> weird, maybe they have an old revision oscillator 2016-03-01T16:32:10 < englishman> nothing in errata? 2016-03-01T16:32:17 < emeb> Not that I've seen. 2016-03-01T16:33:34 < karlp> http://community.silabs.com/t5/Projects/JavaScript-on-the-EFM32/m-p/162259?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRogs6nBZKXonjHpfsX67u0tWKK%2FlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4CTcFiI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFTLPBMbNsz7gOXBg%3D#U162259?utm_source=communitynewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=feb2016 2016-03-01T16:33:38 < karlp> low power javascript :) 2016-03-01T16:35:02 < lorenzo> espruino lol 2016-03-01T16:35:21 < karlp> does the job, what's the lol? 2016-03-01T16:36:40 < lorenzo> javascript is always lol 2016-03-01T16:36:56 < karlp> oh ok then, just so I know .) 2016-03-01T16:36:59 < lorenzo> no idea why people still bother with that 2016-03-01T16:37:02 < emeb> node.js is badass rockstar tech! 2016-03-01T16:38:35 < lorenzo> eh, javascript on the server side 2016-03-01T16:38:43 < lorenzo> as in "we were too dumb to use a real language" 2016-03-01T16:41:40 < karlp> so, what's "real" in your book then? 2016-03-01T16:41:54 < emeb> real men program entirely in assembly. 2016-03-01T16:42:14 < lorenzo> bah, assembly 2016-03-01T16:42:19 < lorenzo> I use a needle and flip bits directly 2016-03-01T16:42:29 < emeb> +256 2016-03-01T16:42:29 < lorenzo> by making little incisions on the disk 2016-03-01T16:45:03 < Laurenceb_> havascript 2016-03-01T16:45:05 < Laurenceb_> nooooooo 2016-03-01T16:46:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T16:48:45 < Laurenceb_> node.js 2016-03-01T16:48:48 < Laurenceb_> whyyyyyyyyyyy 2016-03-01T16:48:55 < Sync_> because pro 2016-03-01T16:48:56 -!- wbraun_ [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-89-145.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-01T16:49:10 < Laurenceb_> still better than ruby on rails 2016-03-01T16:49:25 < emeb> 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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/01/article-1334617-09741E2B000005DC-420_468x286.jpg 2016-03-01T17:45:12 < Sync_> wat happen there 2016-03-01T17:47:26 < ReadError> step up your link game 2016-03-01T17:47:30 < ReadError> unfunny, boring 2016-03-01T17:47:44 < ReadError> probably some UK person nobody has heard of 2016-03-01T17:48:01 < Steffanx> Yankeelander. 2016-03-01T17:48:08 < Laurenceb_> political banner was too long, caught in rotors or something 2016-03-01T17:48:12 < Steffanx> He is well know in europeland 2016-03-01T17:49:50 < Steffanx> That guy has great speeches, mr ReadError 2016-03-01T17:51:07 < ReadError> isnt that super old too? 2016-03-01T17:51:20 < Laurenceb_> yup but super lul 2016-03-01T17:51:38 < Laurenceb_> dunno how he got out so unhurt 2016-03-01T17:51:50 < Laurenceb_> liveleak material 2016-03-01T17:52:52 < aandrew> Laurenceb_> political banner was too long, caught in rotors or something 2016-03-01T17:52:53 < aandrew> 'lol 2016-03-01T17:53:18 < Laurenceb_> he 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< Laurenceb_> freaking ADS1298 makes me rage 2016-03-02T04:18:28 < Laurenceb_> costs best part of $100 yet is a massive pita 2016-03-02T04:22:43 < Laurenceb_> it'd be nice if they had simple advice for wtf to do it leads can fly off at any moment 2016-03-02T04:23:17 < Laurenceb_> all the "right leg drive" common mode shit looks like its inevitably going to fail horribly 2016-03-02T04:23:30 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to have to SPICE the whole system at this rate :S 2016-03-02T04:26:24 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T04:28:33 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.162] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T04:28:58 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-03-02T04:30:52 < dongs> dongs 2016-03-02T04:33:16 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-02T04:35:48 < dongs> no, you = pumper 2016-03-02T04:36:48 < dongs> not much. about to start freelancing 2016-03-02T04:37:08 < dongs> got forwarded a dickstarter url 2016-03-02T04:37:11 < dongs> from my contact at ITE 2016-03-02T04:37:20 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/389985205/bacon-and-cheese-may-the-source-be-with-you 2016-03-02T04:37:52 < dongs> > By delivering true 5Hz ~ 200KHz sound quality that is absolutely perfect for vinyl 2016-03-02T04:39:07 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/415/781/6dabd3b5d124f1677a78d8a9b2f09ac9_original.png?v=1456307052&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=c0bdca94077620eb31c85fcd66c3c5a1 2016-03-02T04:39:47 < aandrew> "wifi can can only play up to CD quality" *snorts* 2016-03-02T04:40:00 < jadew> R2COM, yeah 2016-03-02T04:40:58 < aandrew> I think that's the first kickstarter I've seen that is trying to cater to audiophoolss 2016-03-02T04:42:08 < aandrew> an $800 headphone amp and a $600 transciever 2016-03-02T04:43:24 < jadew> isn't that THD shit? 2016-03-02T04:43:37 < jadew> 0.1% that's what... 30 dB? 2016-03-02T04:44:40 < aandrew> yeah it's orcad 2016-03-02T04:46:44 -!- boB_K7IQ 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tubes tho? 2016-03-02T04:59:32 < jadew> aside from the wank factor 2016-03-02T04:59:42 < jadew> is there a real reason to use them? 2016-03-02T04:59:51 < dongs> no of course not 2016-03-02T04:59:52 < dongs> just wank 2016-03-02T05:40:38 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.162] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-02T05:53:23 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-02T05:56:41 < dongs> 4L V8, haha 2016-03-02T05:56:45 < dongs> are you in a hurry or something 2016-03-02T05:56:53 < dongs> like 5km/l 2016-03-02T05:57:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-02T05:57:58 < dongs> 7.6km/l i was close 2016-03-02T05:58:01 < dongs> and t hats bullshit numbers 2016-03-02T05:58:06 < dongs> so 5 is probably much closer to what it gets 2016-03-02T06:07:37 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T06:13:06 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.167.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 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http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0475c/Chdifaha.html 2016-03-02T07:13:47 < wbraun> “real time division is not available in the libraries for Cortex-M1 or Cortex-M0” 2016-03-02T07:14:09 < wbraun> that seems to imply that software divide is not supported for some reason? 2016-03-02T07:14:33 < dongs> wut 2016-03-02T07:14:46 < dongs> no it just means M0 has no hardware divide instruction 2016-03-02T07:14:51 < dongs> which is known fact 2016-03-02T07:14:57 < wbraun> I understand that 2016-03-02T07:15:13 < wbraun> but that page seems to be talking about a library? 2016-03-02T07:15:13 < dongs> read the rest of the text 2016-03-02T07:15:16 < dongs> yes 2016-03-02T07:15:20 < dongs> there's a dsp/something lib 2016-03-02T07:15:22 < dongs> thats in cmsis 2016-03-02T07:15:25 < dongs> its that one. 2016-03-02T07:15:57 < dongs> arm_math.h probably 2016-03-02T07:16:28 < dongs> anyway the point is they don't have a "fast but OK" version of divide 2016-03-02T07:16:49 < dongs> for M0/M1. 2016-03-02T07:17:06 < dongs> just has regular long style division that "can take up to 96 cycles" 2016-03-02T07:19:55 < wbraun> right now my program is hiting a hard fault when it hits the divide 2016-03-02T07:19:59 < wbraun> so something is wrong 2016-03-02T07:20:13 < wbraun> the aflags are set for M-0 2016-03-02T07:20:56 < wbraun> and lflags 2016-03-02T07:26:52 < dongs> you sure youre not just dividing by zero ro somethign 2016-03-02T07:27:12 < dongs> did you check asm and make sure its not emitting M3 hardware divide? 2016-03-02T07:29:59 < wbraun> I checked I was not dividing by 0 2016-03-02T07:30:13 < wbraun> I have not checked the assembly yet 2016-03-02T07:30:30 < wbraun> I must have an issue with my makefile? 2016-03-02T07:30:37 < dongs> no idea, i just use keil 2016-03-02T07:30:42 < dongs> choose M0, no carsh on divide 2016-03-02T07:34:13 < wbraun> no what on divide? 2016-03-02T07:39:00 < dongs> crash, nigger. 2016-03-02T07:39:05 < dongs> i mean if y ou couldnt figure that out from context 2016-03-02T07:47:21 < dongs> < wbraun> I must have an issue with my makefile? 2016-03-02T07:47:23 < dongs> im guessing: no 2016-03-02T07:56:30 < wbraun> oh, its not an actually “no crash on divide” option. Thats what I thought you were implying. 2016-03-02T07:58:15 < PeterM> crt you made a typo 2016-03-02T07:59:17 < PeterM> * crt gets out the rubber dick - fixt 2016-03-02T08:00:20 < PeterM> nah 2016-03-02T08:00:39 < PeterM> i just know autocorrect 2016-03-02T08:01:35 < PeterM> no, oyu wikk go to SPED 2016-03-02T08:01:50 < PeterM> you will go to SPED* 2016-03-02T08:03:02 < lorenzo> ##stm32 is where you go from div by 0 to dildo in a matter of seconds 2016-03-02T08:04:26 < PeterM> ##LotR is where you go from div by 0 to Bilbo in a matter of seconds - fixt 2016-03-02T08:04:30 < jpa-> wbraun: well, M0 having no divide it has no div-by-0 :) 2016-03-02T08:04:45 < PeterM> no hardware divide* 2016-03-02T08:05:11 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-02T08:05:16 < jpa-> looks like i should have read the backlog 2016-03-02T08:06:16 < PeterM> i think all other Mx have hardware div, aside from fpga M1 2016-03-02T08:07:18 < dongs> M0 doesnt? 2016-03-02T08:08:06 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-M#Instruction_sets 2016-03-02T08:08:08 < PeterM> nope 2016-03-02T08:27:27 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-02T08:38:04 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-02T08:43:30 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.154.208] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T08:54:28 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-02T08:56:11 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T08:56:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.35] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T09:09:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-02T09:13:12 < lorenzo> let's all use stm8 2016-03-02T09:13:34 < PeterM> lets not 2016-03-02T09:13:48 < lorenzo> okay 2016-03-02T09:14:42 < lorenzo> jokes aside, it looks nice for what it costs. its even got DMA 2016-03-02T09:14:52 < PeterM> whats it cost ? 2016-03-02T09:15:22 < lorenzo> $0.8 a dev board 2016-03-02T09:15:45 < PeterM> too much 2016-03-02T09:16:15 < lorenzo> :( 2016-03-02T09:16:24 < lorenzo> I've got two here but I gave up on the IDE 2016-03-02T09:16:26 < PeterM> http://www.icbase.com/PSEN/Product.aspx?X_ProId=119172&utm_source=supplyFrame&utm_medium=buyNow 2016-03-02T09:16:28 < lorenzo> it requires windows 2000, maximum 2016-03-02T09:16:56 < PeterM> http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/technologies/semiconductors/microcontrollers/32-bit/Pages/3038310-STM32F030F4P6.aspx?IM=0 2016-03-02T09:18:11 < lorenzo> PeterM: close, 0.57$ :p 2016-03-02T09:18:19 < lorenzo> not that they're comparable, but 2016-03-02T09:22:06 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T09:25:44 < PeterM> stm8? may asell get our your zif dip socket and oyur z80 2016-03-02T09:34:39 < lorenzo> PeterM: let me hug you for no reason 2016-03-02T09:42:28 < dongs> stm8 is gr8 2016-03-02T09:42:34 < dongs> we can get some tsop20 thing for like 20c 2016-03-02T09:42:50 < dongs> using it as rc receiver and power standby switch for allwhiner A20 2016-03-02T09:42:55 < dongs> cuz that shit doesn't process IR while its in standby 2016-03-02T09:43:15 < dongs> er RC = IR 2016-03-02T09:43:16 < dongs> whatever 2016-03-02T09:43:41 < dongs> lorenzo: what IDE 2016-03-02T09:43:46 < dongs> STVD works on win10 2016-03-02T09:43:55 < dongs> and you can blag free cosmic 32k compiler for it 2016-03-02T09:44:10 < dongs> stvd = free 2016-03-02T09:44:13 < dongs> 32k cosmic = free 2016-03-02T09:44:14 < dongs> done 2016-03-02T09:44:22 < dongs> and if you have a STM8 with > 32k flash youre doing it wrong 2016-03-02T09:46:28 < lorenzo> dongs: just noticed there's a 1yr 32k license, I was using the 8k one lol 2016-03-02T09:46:34 < lorenzo> not that I've managed to fill 8k of code yet 2016-03-02T09:49:14 < dongs> oh 2016-03-02T09:49:22 < dongs> lorenzo: yeah but you can just renew it in a year 2016-03-02T09:49:26 < dongs> i think i did it liek 4 yeras in a row now? 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2016-03-02T10:32:26 < dongs> No, Mighty can currently only be synced using an iOS (iPhone/iPad) or Android device. We want to make is as easy as possible to update your playlists, so we’ve completely done away with cords and computer. All you need is the Mighty mobile app installed on a smartphone and you’re good to go. 2016-03-02T10:32:31 < dongs> haha 2016-03-02T10:32:41 < dongs> so its a mp3 player that you cant actually copy MP3s to from a computer 2016-03-02T10:32:43 < dongs> how practical 2016-03-02T10:32:46 < dongs> fuckign retards 2016-03-02T10:33:12 < PeterM> thats fuckign dumb 2016-03-02T10:34:48 < zyp> jpa-, low on disk space, or does your internet connection suck? 2016-03-02T10:35:01 < jpa-> zyp: both ;) 2016-03-02T10:35:27 < jpa-> also the download page said "please supervise this download progress until the end and then close the window" so i cannot do anything else now 2016-03-02T10:35:49 < zyp> I suspect it's a case of "bundle a huge runtime" 2016-03-02T10:36:19 < zyp> simple app, tens of megabytes of libs 2016-03-02T10:36:37 < dongs> kinda like... python apps 2016-03-02T10:37:17 < zyp> yeah, I've done that myself 2016-03-02T10:37:38 < zyp> wrapped up entire pyqt with py2exe 2016-03-02T10:37:58 < zyp> hmm, that was only 9.35MB though 2016-03-02T10:38:01 < jpa-> looks like it uses node.js 2016-03-02T10:38:08 < zyp> haha 2016-03-02T10:38:10 < dongs> what is 2016-03-02T10:38:12 < dongs> that mp3 player? 2016-03-02T10:38:16 < dongs> or TI shit 2016-03-02T10:38:22 < jpa-> yeah i've done similar, even wrapping whole gstreamer + glib + gtk + etc, i only got to 15 MB 2016-03-02T10:38:26 < jpa-> dongs: ti shit 2016-03-02T10:39:17 < zyp> idk, in general it's better than requiring the user to install dependencies separately 2016-03-02T10:39:47 < jpa-> yeah, on windows atleast 2016-03-02T10:39:50 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-02T10:40:00 < zyp> gets easier when you have a package manager 2016-03-02T10:40:03 < jpa-> and i provide such packages for linux also, in addition to the usual source / .deb etc. 2016-03-02T10:40:26 < jpa-> http://fpaste.dy.fi/zOk/disp heh, found the open source credits; no wonder it is a bit bloat 2016-03-02T10:40:39 < jpa-> i guess they have some general dependencies blob they include with anything 2016-03-02T10:40:40 < lorenzo> bit.ly/1Y0kgyb 2016-03-02T10:40:46 < lorenzo> has a display too 2016-03-02T10:41:18 < zyp> jpa-, haha, wow 2016-03-02T10:41:33 < jpa-> lorenzo: heh, i have one of those, crappiest thing ever :) 2016-03-02T10:42:11 < lorenzo> jpa-: did it catch fire yet? 2016-03-02T10:42:31 < jpa-> no, i actually disassembled it out of curiosity so it lost its battery:P 2016-03-02T10:42:45 < zyp> hey, dongs, I'd like to do another batch of arcin now 2016-03-02T10:43:50 < zyp> same everything as last time 2016-03-02T10:43:50 < PeterM> zyp jpa- i figure if you have all of your libs bundled and have all your apps stand alone, if its something you expect someone to downlaod a lot of not bundlign is a good idea, like if instead of st having a spreadsheet for clock generation they have an app, i would expect the person who is downlaoding hte clockconf app to probably be downlaoding a lot of other st apps sothey may aswell only downlaod the libs opnce, especially if the app is 2016-03-02T10:44:37 < jpa-> yeah, but which one will they download first? :) 2016-03-02T10:46:31 < PeterM> i agree, im sure you could work somethign out though, like an error message thats like "download the libs here *direct link* first" 2016-03-02T10:46:35 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T10:47:45 < zyp> how do you bundle third party libs in a way that they can be shared between your apps, but won't conflict with other apps based on the same libs? 2016-03-02T10:47:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-02T10:49:41 < jpa-> it's easier to just cut down the bloat so that it is not unreasonably huge 2016-03-02T10:53:55 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-02T10:54:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-02T11:00:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:02:15 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad616.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-02T11:04:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.3] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:08:10 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:08:10 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-02T11:08:10 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:10:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-02T11:25:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Build-Custom-Electronic-Device-With/ 2016-03-02T11:25:08 < dongs> yeah okay 2016-03-02T11:25:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:29:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-176.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-02T11:29:57 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Anagrams-Game-using-PIC/ 2016-03-02T11:29:59 < dongs> how about: no 2016-03-02T11:31:47 < dongs> haha that mp3 thing runs assdroid 2016-03-02T11:31:51 < dongs> thats why 512megs ram 2016-03-02T11:31:54 < dongs> fucking useless 2016-03-02T11:33:44 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:34:12 < upgrdman> finally .cn has some decent weather. cold but tolerable. 2016-03-02T11:34:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T11:34:50 < upgrdman> maybe this time i can walk around a bit and get to know the area 2016-03-02T11:34:50 < dongs> did they send y ou there again? 2016-03-02T11:34:53 < upgrdman> ya 2016-03-02T11:34:58 < dongs> where at 2016-03-02T11:35:03 < upgrdman> same, shanghai 2016-03-02T11:35:06 < dongs> ah right 2016-03-02T11:35:19 < dongs> tix so cheap. i should go on a date with chinagirl 2016-03-02T11:35:24 < PeterM> damn, can't even go to hk and go to casinos 2016-03-02T11:35:26 < dongs> i wonder how much local flight from shanghai to sz 2016-03-02T11:35:33 < dongs> probly liek $10 2016-03-02T11:35:34 < upgrdman> sz? 2016-03-02T11:35:38 < dongs> shitzen 2016-03-02T11:35:44 < dongs> i.e wehre all teh fun shit is 2016-03-02T11:35:52 < upgrdman> shenzhen? 2016-03-02T11:35:54 < dongs> ya 2016-03-02T11:37:12 * upgrdman starts flipping those his collection of pdfs on learning chinese 2016-03-02T11:37:18 < dongs> laff 2016-03-02T11:37:19 < dongs> fuck learning it 2016-03-02T11:37:21 < dongs> just give up 2016-03-02T11:37:23 < upgrdman> i am so fucking screwed 2016-03-02T11:37:25 < upgrdman> ya 2016-03-02T11:37:25 < dongs> unless you have some rason to know it 2016-03-02T11:37:31 < dongs> which you don't 2016-03-02T11:37:38 < upgrdman> well i would like to be able to talk to people when im here 2016-03-02T11:37:42 < dongs> japanese is pretty awful but chinese is 10x more so 2016-03-02T11:37:53 < upgrdman> other than my coworkers, since most of them speak english 2016-03-02T11:38:07 < dongs> isnt that what an egg is 2016-03-02T11:38:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-02T11:38:32 < upgrdman> crt, lol. i've never had any problems with the locals. 2016-03-02T11:38:37 < upgrdman> very nice people in general. 2016-03-02T11:38:44 < PeterM> crt whats wrong with that, goes well with beer 2016-03-02T11:38:47 < upgrdman> different culture, but nice people. 2016-03-02T11:40:50 < lorenzo> dongs: that looks like homework 2016-03-02T11:41:00 < lorenzo> I've seen people asking on freelancer to do their Cisco / networking homework 2016-03-02T11:41:08 < lorenzo> I mean there's always some indian who can do that for 5$ 2016-03-02T11:41:11 < dongs> oh sure 2016-03-02T11:41:22 < dongs> ya, pic32 shit is most likely homework i didnt evne clickit 2016-03-02T11:41:24 < dongs> just pasted cuz zano 2016-03-02T11:41:27 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:42:58 < dongs> he's an innovation machine 2016-03-02T11:42:59 < dongs> im sure 2016-03-02T11:47:24 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pipowosvvutmpeks] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:54:10 < dekar_> dongs, I'm not sure if coming over is that good of an idea. A restaurant I went to recently: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/IMG_20160206_172222.jpg 2016-03-02T11:55:27 < dongs> free dog? 2016-03-02T11:55:30 < dekar_> For those who can't read it, it says something along the lines of: "Filipinos, Japanese and dogs aren't allowed in." 2016-03-02T11:55:52 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-02T11:56:57 < zyp> haha 2016-03-02T11:57:08 < dekar_> dongs, I guess you could always pretend to be Korean. Even taxis regularly refuse to transport Japanese. 2016-03-02T11:57:25 < dongs> dekar_: lol nice 2016-03-02T11:57:34 < dongs> oh, right 2016-03-02T11:57:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T11:57:48 < dongs> i can sorta see "japanese" on the left side. 2016-03-02T11:58:18 < dongs> retweeting to chinagirl 2016-03-02T11:59:02 < zyp> dongs, did you see my tweet about arcin? 2016-03-02T11:59:29 < dongs> oh no 2016-03-02T11:59:45 < dongs> < zyp> hey, dongs, I'd like to do another batch of arcin now 2016-03-02T11:59:49 < dongs> didnt get highlighted 2016-03-02T11:59:51 < dongs> cuz dongs wasn't in front 2016-03-02T11:59:54 < zyp> figured 2016-03-02T11:59:55 < dongs> i see it now. 2016-03-02T12:00:04 < dongs> i'll submit pcb tomrorow. 2016-03-02T12:00:11 < zyp> cool 2016-03-02T12:01:21 < zyp> I'm also gonna do another nfc protorun as soon as I get around to fix the design 2016-03-02T12:01:46 < dongs> sure 2016-03-02T12:01:47 < dekar_> The racism is quite bad, the worst I've encountered so far. I've met some military guy who kept going on how much he wants to kill some Japanese. On the other hand he praised me for being German and was proud to tell me the engines of their ships come from our country. They don't seem to understand that Germany and Japan were allies. XD 2016-03-02T12:01:48 < zyp> and probably volume as soon as that's confirmed working 2016-03-02T12:02:54 < dongs> cool 2016-03-02T12:02:59 < zyp> need to get the VNA to pay for itself :p 2016-03-02T12:04:01 < dekar_> But hey, let's all meet in CN. :) 2016-03-02T12:06:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-02T12:10:52 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-02T12:13:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T12:19:28 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbcyjjztfvxhshgb] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T12:24:23 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/GPS-Tracking-Device-With-Cellular/ 2016-03-02T12:24:26 < dongs> haha 2016-03-02T12:31:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-02T12:32:26 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Manufacture-Product-for-9822033/ 2016-03-02T12:33:52 < PeterM> roject Deleted 2016-03-02T12:33:53 < PeterM> The project you are looking for has been deleted by the user. 2016-03-02T12:33:55 < PeterM> ? 2016-03-02T12:37:16 < dongs> haha 2016-03-02T12:37:17 < dongs> that was fast 2016-03-02T12:37:25 < dongs> Project Description 2016-03-02T12:37:26 < dongs> i want to jonb at a post of electronic engineeer manufacturing job 2016-03-02T12:37:26 < dongs> About the employer (0 Reviews) India 2016-03-02T12:37:46 < PeterM> wot 2016-03-02T12:37:56 < PeterM> wow 2016-03-02T12:48:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T12:49:54 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-02T12:54:37 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:11:00 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:11:57 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-02T13:11:58 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-03-02T13:16:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.101] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:27:45 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T13:30:57 < qyx> it happens, 2 of 5 my recent bids were deleted 2016-03-02T13:33:08 < qyx> "The transmitted TCP packet should contain latitude, longitude, speed, altitude and time" 2016-03-02T13:33:11 < qyx> wat 2016-03-02T13:34:05 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:44:04 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-02T13:44:52 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:45:08 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-02T13:53:01 < dongs> qyx, its a gps logger 2016-03-02T13:54:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/High-Altitude-High-Range-Remote.html attn Lt_Lemming 2016-03-02T13:54:16 < dongs> attn Laurenceb ^ 2016-03-02T13:54:18 < dongs> err 2016-03-02T13:54:23 < dongs> ah i ts a repost 2016-03-02T13:54:24 < dongs> lol 2016-03-02T13:54:24 < Lt_Lemming> lol 2016-03-02T13:54:27 * Lt_Lemming applauds 2016-03-02T13:54:32 < Lt_Lemming> well done dongs :-P 2016-03-02T13:54:34 < dongs> they're not gonna get that shit done for $750 2016-03-02T13:54:38 < dongs> Lt_Lemming: sorry ^_^ 2016-03-02T13:54:43 < Lt_Lemming> tis fine 2016-03-02T13:54:59 < Lt_Lemming> baleted 2016-03-02T13:55:20 < Lt_Lemming> I think maybe $750 was a typo? 2016-03-02T13:55:30 < dongs> you mean missing a zero? 2016-03-02T13:55:35 < dongs> or two 2016-03-02T13:56:42 < dongs> The proposal shall be submitted before February 19th 5pm ET. The proposal shall be limited to 10 pages and shall include the following: 2016-03-02T13:56:46 < dongs> they're a little late there. 2016-03-02T13:58:18 -!- amstan [~amstan@24.140.234.123] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:58:19 -!- amstan [~amstan@24.140.234.123] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-02T13:58:19 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T13:58:43 < Lt_Lemming> lol 2016-03-02T13:59:43 < Lt_Lemming> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Graphic-Design/bitcoin-generator-website-software-that/ <--- lol! 2016-03-02T14:00:04 < dongs> haha 2016-03-02T14:00:11 < dongs> all that and for $30 2016-03-02T14:00:29 * Lt_Lemming nods 2016-03-02T14:05:09 < qyx> high ltitude remote deleted too 2016-03-02T14:05:14 < dongs> huh? 2016-03-02T14:05:15 < dongs> already? 2016-03-02T14:05:21 < dongs> ah 2016-03-02T14:05:23 < dongs> it got reposted again tho 2016-03-02T14:05:27 < dongs> he must have edited somethign 2016-03-02T14:06:26 < qyx> it is not in my project feed 2016-03-02T14:06:33 < qyx> which skill does he require? 2016-03-02T14:06:38 < qyx> *s 2016-03-02T14:06:40 < Lt_Lemming> he deleted it 2016-03-02T14:06:52 < qyx> the reposted one 2016-03-02T14:07:05 < Lt_Lemming> oh, missed that 2016-03-02T14:08:17 < dongs> qyx, the usual shit. 2016-03-02T14:08:17 < dongs> High Altitude High Range Remote Control Transmitter and Receiver 2016-03-02T14:08:17 < dongs> Electrical Engineering, Electronics, Engineering, PCB Layout, Telecommunications Engineering 2016-03-02T14:08:20 < dongs> Introduction ZalNearSpace, LLC is inviting individuals and small businesses to submit a proposal in response to the below solicitation. This Request for Proposal (RFP) is open... 2016-03-02T14:08:26 < dongs> it got reposted again AND deleted again 2016-03-02T14:08:27 < dongs> i duno 2016-03-02T14:08:31 < dongs> maybe he found the february thing 2016-03-02T14:08:48 < Lt_Lemming> linky linky? 2016-03-02T14:08:56 < dongs> its gone now 2016-03-02T14:08:59 < dongs> both it and repost 2016-03-02T14:09:35 < Lt_Lemming> maybe he grew a clue! 2016-03-02T14:09:50 < Lt_Lemming> (No Billy, that's just puberty, we'll talk about that later) 2016-03-02T14:11:00 < qyx> hopefully they will fly something into near space on the third attempt 2016-03-02T14:12:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-176.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T14:12:40 < dongs> qyx, they want 24km altitude and 30km range 2016-03-02T14:12:50 < qyx> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Opto-Sensor-Schematics-for-BLDC/ 2016-03-02T14:12:52 < qyx> whats that 2016-03-02T14:13:03 < qyx> I have never seen a BLDC with opto sensors 2016-03-02T14:13:22 < dongs> hah 2016-03-02T14:13:24 < dongs> wlel 2016-03-02T14:13:30 < dongs> i heard on ebikes hall stuff is kinda hard 2016-03-02T14:13:33 < dongs> cuz it gets gummed up with trash 2016-03-02T14:13:38 < dongs> but I dont see how optical wil lsolve that any better 2016-03-02T14:13:48 < dongs> if anything it'll be worse :) 2016-03-02T14:13:58 < dongs> qyx, its basicalyl same shit as hall sensors for positioning? 2016-03-02T14:14:37 < Lt_Lemming> opto would be get in a magnetically noisy environment 2016-03-02T14:14:55 < Lt_Lemming> or in the presence of fouling materials 2016-03-02T14:15:06 < Lt_Lemming> but sifn't just do sensorless? 2016-03-02T14:16:55 < lorenzo> lol it looks like they're always the same 4-5 guys who bid on this crap 2016-03-02T14:17:34 < lorenzo> the pakistani guy with terrorist beard, the russian bear and the other indian who couldn't bother uploading a profile pic 2016-03-02T14:20:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T14:30:22 < dongs> yea there's liek 10 pro irc EEs on there 2016-03-02T14:30:25 < dongs> but all the projects rae garbage 2016-03-02T14:30:44 < dongs> the 3 f un ones i wouldnt mind working on, and I've bid appropriately on all got closed without acceptance of anyone 2016-03-02T14:30:50 < dongs> so they probly hired some paki off-site 2016-03-02T14:33:25 < zyp> haha 2016-03-02T14:34:21 < zyp> I can't see freelancer as anything else than a site for shitty customers to hire shitty developers 2016-03-02T14:34:43 < zyp> can't imagine there's much quality stuff coming out of any projects there 2016-03-02T14:36:07 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-02T14:43:26 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Hardware-debugging-PCB-Design-using/ attn R2PRO 2016-03-02T14:46:11 < englishman> honeypot by orcad anti piracy dept 2016-03-02T14:46:17 < dongs> haha 2016-03-02T14:49:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.136] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T14:51:36 < zyp> heh 2016-03-02T14:56:13 < karlp> dongs: you can toss your FLIR stuff now, getit on your phone instead! http://www.catphones.com/en-gb/news/press-releases/cat-s60-announced-as-worlds-first-smartphone-with-integrated-thermal-camera 2016-03-02T14:57:43 < Sync_> Lt_Lemming: well, the guys are not pro enough to do sensorless FOC 2016-03-02T14:58:08 < Lt_Lemming> ...? 2016-03-02T14:58:12 < Lt_Lemming> oh 2016-03-02T14:58:37 < Lt_Lemming> karlp, it's a FLIR sensor 2016-03-02T14:58:45 < Lux> they could still just clone vesc and be done with it 2016-03-02T14:58:53 * Lt_Lemming nods 2016-03-02T14:59:06 < Lt_Lemming> I have a slightly insane project in mind involving 4 VESC's 2016-03-02T15:02:32 < dongs> karlp: er yeah its a shitty flir lepton 2016-03-02T15:02:49 < dongs> nothanks 2016-03-02T15:02:52 < dongs> thermapp is fuckign amaze 2016-03-02T15:03:23 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/otWqU3v.jpg ttp://i.imgur.com/XS6CUHu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ji1Z3MG.jpg 2016-03-02T15:03:26 < dongs> etc 2016-03-02T15:05:45 < Lt_Lemming> kitty's charging his lazers 2016-03-02T15:07:11 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T15:10:38 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcez5pcp55w fucking cnlohr 2016-03-02T15:36:36 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T15:52:25 < englishman> ha is that the range testing guy 2016-03-02T15:52:28 < englishman> thats pretty neaet 2016-03-02T15:52:33 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-02T15:54:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-02T15:59:17 < zyp> I noticed yesterday that my new phone supports charging other devices over usb 2016-03-02T15:59:47 < zyp> "how to use usb" menu had both "charge from usb" and "charge connected device" 2016-03-02T15:59:56 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T16:00:05 < dongs> OTG thing? 2016-03-02T16:00:10 < zyp> usb-c 2016-03-02T16:00:44 < zyp> I saw this when I had my phone plugged into my car, so I guess that's going to come in handy when the car battery doesn't have enough power left to get me home :p 2016-03-02T16:01:25 < zyp> usb-c is pretty cool actually 2016-03-02T16:01:34 < zyp> so far the connector seems solid as fuck 2016-03-02T16:01:47 < zyp> by far better than micro 2016-03-02T16:01:52 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-02T16:02:43 < zyp> and they do away with all the various bullshit between A, B and AB shit 2016-03-02T16:02:54 < englishman> what phone? 2016-03-02T16:03:02 < zyp> nexus 5x 2016-03-02T16:03:57 < zyp> only disadvantage is that you need a bunch of new cables to get compatibility with old shit 2016-03-02T16:04:19 < zyp> but new shit can use all type-c to type-c cables 2016-03-02T16:04:21 < dongs> I can't use my SDR dongle anymore, needs new cable 2016-03-02T16:04:27 < zyp> wat 2016-03-02T16:04:32 < zyp> haha 2016-03-02T16:04:46 < zyp> nexus 4 didn't even have full OTG support, so I've never used that as host 2016-03-02T16:04:55 < englishman> ^ stupid google 2016-03-02T16:05:00 < zyp> but nexus 5x only came with a type-c to type-c cable 2016-03-02T16:05:16 < zyp> so I needed to buy an A to C cable to charge it in the car 2016-03-02T16:05:32 < englishman> still no sd card tho right 2016-03-02T16:05:49 < zyp> correct 2016-03-02T16:06:03 < zyp> I never missed that on the nexus 4 either 2016-03-02T16:06:27 < dongs> yeah wtf is sdcard good for on a phone 2016-03-02T16:06:37 < dongs> its for making calls and playing desert golf 2016-03-02T16:06:42 < dongs> you dont need sdcard for either activity 2016-03-02T16:06:43 < englishman> 4k camera 2016-03-02T16:06:48 < zyp> maybe if you need to bring more than 32GB of porn on a flight without internet 2016-03-02T16:06:55 < englishman> who wants 16gb on phone thats like :30 of video 2016-03-02T16:06:56 < zyp> or something 2016-03-02T16:06:59 < dongs> shitty 4K camera 2016-03-02T16:07:03 < zyp> haha 2016-03-02T16:08:05 < englishman> even shitty old phone has 16mp camera 2016-03-02T16:08:10 < englishman> thats like 2mb per photo 2016-03-02T16:08:20 < englishman> 16gb means 8gb os 2016-03-02T16:08:36 < dongs> i see the problem 2016-03-02T16:08:36 < englishman> and i have so many selfies phone is full and i have to delete stuff manuakyl 2016-03-02T16:08:41 < dongs> you're trying to use a phone as something it's not 2016-03-02T16:08:47 < englishman> like a scrub with moto razr in 2002 2016-03-02T16:09:21 < englishman> right cameraphone doesnt exist yet 2016-03-02T16:09:58 < artag> what do you want selfies for ? don't you know what you look like already ? 2016-03-02T16:10:47 < zyp> I only use phone cam if I want to snap a quick pic of something and don't have a real cam handy 2016-03-02T16:12:40 < englishman> also if i want to look at gobro video on a screen 2016-03-02T16:12:46 < englishman> take out sd card -> put in phonoe 2016-03-02T16:14:00 < BrainDamage> you can use usb cables or external reader for that 2016-03-02T16:14:12 < englishman> this is tho 2016-03-02T16:14:27 < BrainDamage> wifi then 2016-03-02T16:14:35 < englishman> slow and lores 2016-03-02T16:14:59 < artag> buy a camera with a built-in screen ? 2016-03-02T16:15:46 < englishman> yes cameras without screens are not cheap popular and/or common and i must carry around additional screens besides the one in my pocket 2016-03-02T16:15:49 < englishman> all excuses 2016-03-02T16:16:01 < englishman> to not adding a 10c sd card cage and connecting 7 traces to chip 2016-03-02T16:17:40 < BrainDamage> i prefer sds too because i use my phone as "slow" long term storage i can carry everywhere, and sds allow to swap 2016-03-02T16:17:54 < englishman> yeah this is great 2016-03-02T16:17:58 < englishman> 128gb sd card so cheap 2016-03-02T16:18:10 < artag> that's not the cost. The cost is that if you have an sd card, people will expect them to work on their pc. So you have to pay MS to use a post-FAT filing system 2016-03-02T16:18:37 < artag> the change to PTP etc. is so that you don't have to support NTFS 2016-03-02T16:18:46 < artag> or extended-name FAT 2016-03-02T16:19:12 < dongs> ???????????? 2016-03-02T16:19:26 < englishman> im sure exfat licensing fee is well hiddin in the $600 phone cost 2016-03-02T16:19:47 < BrainDamage> android uses a os abstraction protocol like mtp or ptp to transfer data to pc so that the underlying fs is hidden 2016-03-02T16:20:04 < artag> exactly 2016-03-02T16:20:05 < zyp> my gobro does wifi, streaming vid from the cam worked well enough last I tried IIRC 2016-03-02T16:20:20 < BrainDamage> but there's also the not so small advantage is that when you mount the filesystem, the os isn't lock out .... 2016-03-02T16:20:31 < artag> the phone doesn't cost $600, it costs $150 at the factory gates 2016-03-02T16:20:31 < BrainDamage> which is fucking ridicolous too in 2016-03-02T16:21:05 < englishman> assdroid is all about preventing sd card usage to boost use of google cloud services 2016-03-02T16:21:06 < dongs> MTP is also fucking garbage 2016-03-02T16:21:13 < BrainDamage> yeah 2016-03-02T16:21:17 < zyp> what's really ridiculous is that MTP is the best usb file system protocol invented so far 2016-03-02T16:21:37 < dongs> its insanely bloated too 2016-03-02T16:21:41 < artag> and yet doesn't appear to support 2016-03-02T16:21:43 < dongs> i think it even uses XML 2016-03-02T16:22:03 < BrainDamage> mtp is utter shit, i had a creative zen player like 10 years ago which used it, and the same shortcomings it had back then are still present 2016-03-02T16:22:11 < BrainDamage> so the protocol didn't improve one least bit 2016-03-02T16:22:17 < dongs> thats cuz it hasnt changed in 10 years 2016-03-02T16:22:23 < dongs> try deleting 5000 files from DCIM through MTP 2016-03-02T16:22:27 < dongs> it will take *YEARS* 2016-03-02T16:22:36 < dongs> like it gets slower after each file 2016-03-02T16:22:41 < zyp> it's a shame there's not a decent standard plain filesystem over usb protocol with ubiquitous support 2016-03-02T16:22:51 < dongs> ya zyp, maybe you should write something 2016-03-02T16:23:07 < dongs> i bet some lunix fagots will map it into fuse or some other shit pretty quick 2016-03-02T16:23:34 < zyp> like, the best solution kinda seems to be to do usb networking and run a network fs over that 2016-03-02T16:23:40 < dongs> heh 2016-03-02T16:23:53 < artag> the problem is that expects it to work with windows. And MS don't want to open the door to a popular fs that they don't collect any fees for. So no solution. 2016-03-02T16:24:09 < dongs> artag, youre full of shit 2016-03-02T16:24:12 < BrainDamage> ^ 2016-03-02T16:24:17 < artag> is that not true ? 2016-03-02T16:24:23 < dongs> name one "popular fs" that windows doesn't support 2016-03-02T16:24:27 < dongs> that would resolve this problem we're discussing 2016-03-02T16:24:38 < artag> ntfs ? 2016-03-02T16:24:45 < englishman> haha zyp the flir dose that 2016-03-02T16:24:48 < englishman> ethernet over usb 2016-03-02T16:24:49 < dongs> ? you can mount ntfs on block level from 2 places read-write? 2016-03-02T16:24:59 < zyp> englishman, and smb on top of that, or what? 2016-03-02T16:25:01 < artag> meh, i mean nfs 2016-03-02T16:25:19 < artag> or indeed afs 2016-03-02T16:25:20 < dongs> i forgot what it does, but it just runs WiNCE 2016-03-02T16:25:34 < englishman> zyp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNDIS 2016-03-02T16:25:48 < dongs> and rndis over usb or wahetver. you can ping it and ftp into it 2016-03-02T16:26:03 < zyp> rndis is just MS' usb networking 2016-03-02T16:26:14 < dongs> it does mount a SD card as a drive 2016-03-02T16:26:19 < dongs> when you plug it in 2016-03-02T16:26:23 < zyp> I was just wondering what they do for FS on top 2016-03-02T16:26:25 < dongs> RNDIS is another option that can be enabled 2016-03-02T16:26:35 < dongs> zyp, jsut regular fat/whatever when its not networking mode. 2016-03-02T16:26:57 < englishman> zyp: iirc it was ftp :) 2016-03-02T16:27:01 < zyp> haha 2016-03-02T16:27:16 < zyp> I mean, I guess that works too 2016-03-02T16:30:56 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-02T16:33:17 -!- emeryth is now known as Emeryth 2016-03-02T16:37:22 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad616.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T16:37:33 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@tkoskine.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T16:41:51 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T16:42:27 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-02T16:48:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-02T17:02:29 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-02T17:03:37 < dongs> are there any boost regs that can do 12V from lipo reliably? 2016-03-02T17:06:51 < dongs> looks like I need around 3W, so 5W or something should be enough 2016-03-02T17:09:31 < dongs> hm wat these dicks want me to use USB_C 2016-03-02T17:13:16 < dongs> http://newsroom.intersil.com/2016-02-17-Intersil-Ships-Industrys-First-USB-C-Buck-Boost-Battery-Charger 2016-03-02T17:13:19 < dongs> ooOOooOOoo 2016-03-02T17:14:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T17:15:44 < dongs> thats pretty fucking great, exceptprobably $10 and not buyable 2016-03-02T17:16:49 < englishman> uh price is right in the article 2016-03-02T17:17:08 < Laurenceb> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/High-Altitude-High-Range-Remote.html 2016-03-02T17:17:12 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T17:17:14 < Laurenceb> they need to check my github 2016-03-02T17:17:23 < dongs> englishman: did you think i read that far? 2016-03-02T17:17:36 < dongs> The ISL9237 buck-boost battery charger is available now in a 4mm x 4mm, 32-lead QFN package and priced at $3.50 USD in 1k quantities. 2016-03-02T17:17:39 < dongs> wut 2016-03-02T17:17:42 < englishman> ctrl f $ 2016-03-02T17:17:42 < dongs> well, it surely isnt avilable anywhere that i checked 2016-03-02T17:17:45 < dongs> rite 2016-03-02T17:18:21 < dongs> avnet has it listed @ 1.67 @ 10k 2016-03-02T17:18:44 < dongs> would rather just get from someone not JEWISH 2016-03-02T17:21:27 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T17:26:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-176.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-02T17:37:37 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/linear-technology/LTC4020IUHF%23PBF/LTC4020IUHF%23PBF-ND/4490517 2016-03-02T17:37:41 < dongs> > $12 2016-03-02T17:37:41 < dongs> gtfo 2016-03-02T17:41:46 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/Kauf7CZ 2016-03-02T17:42:24 < dongs> >sundaysport 2016-03-02T17:42:54 < Laurenceb> best newspaper 2016-03-02T17:43:22 < Taxman> dongs: For me, memories come up of those reflex-charger-chips in the 90es... 2016-03-02T17:44:07 < dongs> Taxman: yea im gonna need something a bit more from 2015/16 2016-03-02T17:44:30 < qyx> what the hell 2016-03-02T17:44:35 < qyx> the remote is deleted again 2016-03-02T17:44:42 < dongs> which? 2016-03-02T17:44:46 < qyx> 16:17 < Laurenceb> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/High-Altitude-High-Range-Remote.html 2016-03-02T17:44:50 < dongs> haha 2016-03-02T17:45:07 < Laurenceb> they must have found my github 2016-03-02T17:59:36 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/c8deOCX 2016-03-02T17:59:55 < dongs> please do 2016-03-02T18:00:33 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/0BFmwhz 2016-03-02T18:02:04 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/qa8Dx5I 2016-03-02T18:05:14 < dongs> is that a funny on make america great 2016-03-02T18:05:40 < dongs> i guess it is. 2016-03-02T18:05:49 < gxti_> > implying anything Laurenceb posts is funny 2016-03-02T18:08:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-02T18:10:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-02T18:13:57 -!- Gunirus_ [sid20073@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnupiznnoitejzpm] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:15:32 -!- Gunirus [sid20073@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owpawaaxwwoyhtpb] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-02T18:15:34 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbcyjjztfvxhshgb] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-02T18:15:34 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-02T18:15:34 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:15:43 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-02T18:15:43 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hksgqnrujzqwoqsm] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:15:51 -!- Gunirus_ is now known as Gunirus 2016-03-02T18:16:03 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:24:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:33:55 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:55:24 -!- arturo182 [arturo182@31.211.234.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-02T18:55:25 -!- arturo182|2 [arturo182@31-211-234-181.customers.ownit.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T18:55:26 -!- arturo182|2 is now known as arturo182 2016-03-02T18:55:59 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-02T18:58:58 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-02T18:59:25 < qyx> jpa-: nanopb related, do you like that travis CI? 2016-03-02T19:05:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T19:09:04 < kakimir> I need quality power adapter for my laptop 2016-03-02T19:09:10 < kakimir> 19V and 2A 2016-03-02T19:09:10 < qyx> ebay it 2016-03-02T19:09:24 < qyx> 2A? is it enough? 2016-03-02T19:09:34 < kakimir> current one is 2016-03-02T19:09:56 < kakimir> propably for battery charge 2016-03-02T19:10:33 < kakimir> because the thing itself almost powers itself from smell of electricity 2016-03-02T19:10:33 < zyp> wat? 38W? 2016-03-02T19:10:50 < zyp> wtf kind of laptop only needs 38W? 2016-03-02T19:11:06 < kakimir> makes sense.. max power around 13W or so and 25W for charge 2016-03-02T19:11:45 < zyp> what model? 2016-03-02T19:12:00 < kakimir> ux305ca 2016-03-02T19:14:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T19:14:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.148.113] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T19:15:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-02T19:16:01 < zyp> laptop specs says 45W 2016-03-02T19:16:40 < kakimir> 2.37A supply 2016-03-02T19:17:17 < kakimir> they propably had some 2A supply and then they just.. "let's round it to 2.37A" 2016-03-02T19:17:27 < kakimir> or 2.5A supply 2016-03-02T19:18:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:34d4:8dc0:b047:90a8] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T19:20:35 < kakimir> when I connect my phone for charge and when phone is 100% supply starts periodic noise as phone does periodic sustenance charges 2016-03-02T19:20:56 < kakimir> whii - whii - whii - whii 2016-03-02T19:29:45 < jpa-> qyx: haven't really used it much; most stuff is still in jenkins 2016-03-02T19:29:55 < jpa-> qyx: someone contributed the travis ci stuff for python3 testing 2016-03-02T19:33:50 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T19:36:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T19:42:20 < qyx> I wonder how hard would it be to make automatically compiled arm binaries with travis ci 2016-03-02T19:42:27 < qyx> I should try 2016-03-02T19:43:17 < englishman> dont see why not, i know several projects that do 2016-03-02T19:45:22 < Getty> on travis there is always the good tactic of making a prepared tgz of the env 2016-03-02T19:45:40 < Getty> so you make a travisconf thats only job is to compile and .tgz an environment, that you then upload from the travis somewhere 2016-03-02T19:45:52 < Getty> then you make your project travis fetching this .tgz unpacking it and using it for testing 2016-03-02T19:46:13 < Getty> that way you escape the timeout problem for whatever env you want, they do have identical identical machines 2016-03-02T19:48:36 < qyx> downloading gcc-arm-embedded tgz should be enough I suppose 2016-03-02T19:49:06 < qyx> if it is able to run there properly 2016-03-02T19:49:22 < Getty> well if not, you would have no problem compiling your own and storing this .tgz 2016-03-02T19:51:24 < qyx> yep 2016-03-02T19:53:21 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-2-38.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-02T19:53:31 < Getty> when i was trying to make a postgis travis setup i had todo it cause all the sub libraries have to be also in specific version compiled with other specific versions of libs to be "recent" 2016-03-02T19:53:41 < Getty> it was a horror..... 2016-03-02T20:01:38 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-02T20:05:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:34d4:8dc0:b047:90a8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-02T20:06:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T20:21:24 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T20:22:14 < owl-v-> not flashing :( ---> http://pastebin.com/37d5DFrN 2016-03-02T20:22:22 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-02T20:27:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has left ##stm32 ["Verlassend"] 2016-03-02T20:38:27 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-02T20:42:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-02T20:46:27 < PaulFertser> owl-v-: why are you using .bin instead of .elf? 2016-03-02T20:46:56 < PaulFertser> owl-v-: also, what size is stm32f4_blink.bin ? 2016-03-02T20:58:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T21:09:23 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T21:14:45 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T21:16:24 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T21:20:41 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T21:33:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T21:48:38 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T22:02:21 < Getty> raspberry 3 in hand, no idea how to differ that from the others 8-) 2016-03-02T22:03:14 < Getty> wow and QA from 2 days ago 2016-03-02T22:07:15 < Steffanx> easy Getty 2016-03-02T22:07:23 < Steffanx> the leds are somewhere else 2016-03-02T22:07:27 < Steffanx> is a antenna now 2016-03-02T22:07:45 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T22:07:50 < Steffanx> *an 2016-03-02T22:11:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-02T22:21:47 < Steffanx> Didn't you add support for F0 to the bmp zyp? Or was that l0? 2016-03-02T22:22:20 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T22:23:38 < Steffanx> oh the code is in F1, nevermind 2016-03-02T22:27:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.148.113] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-02T22:38:38 < BrainDamage> laurenceb-grade link: https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/705121840361029633?s=09 2016-03-02T22:41:15 < Steffanx> Thank you 2016-03-02T22:48:42 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T22:50:09 < kakimir> I lost the game 2016-03-02T22:50:35 < Steffanx> What game mr kakimir? 2016-03-02T22:50:56 < kakimir> the game? 2016-03-02T22:51:04 < Steffanx> -_- 2016-03-02T22:51:12 < Steffanx> Why i even bothered 2016-03-02T22:51:23 < kakimir> I remember when I was a teenager and got totally looped by the game 2016-03-02T22:52:01 < kakimir> use the google 2016-03-02T22:55:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T22:59:09 < kakimir> http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10600000/rules-you-lost-the-game-10676805-450-360.jpg 2016-03-02T23:01:03 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T23:01:42 < Steffanx> I don't play 2016-03-02T23:02:14 < kakimir> me neather.. I wonder what was wrong with me when I was young 2016-03-02T23:02:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T23:02:47 < Steffanx> was wrong? :P 2016-03-02T23:03:08 < kakimir> kekekek :] 2016-03-02T23:03:29 < aandrew> wtf is that game shit 2016-03-02T23:03:38 < aandrew> sounds like some teen bullshit 2016-03-02T23:03:55 < kakimir> it is 2016-03-02T23:05:22 < kakimir> also 2005 2016-03-02T23:08:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T23:14:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T23:15:03 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T23:19:30 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-03-02T23:20:12 -!- testtesttest [524834a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.72.52.160] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T23:20:18 -!- testtesttest [524834a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.72.52.160] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-02T23:20:30 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-03-02T23:25:09 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-02T23:25:33 -!- Peter is now known as Guest11014 2016-03-02T23:32:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-02T23:51:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu Mar 03 2016 2016-03-03T00:28:21 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pipowosvvutmpeks] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-03T00:31:08 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad616.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-03T00:43:15 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-24-6.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T00:45:52 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T00:46:06 < Laurenceb_> so c# guy turns up at work and gets desk next to mine 2016-03-03T00:46:12 < Laurenceb_> he's from Iran 2016-03-03T00:46:34 < Laurenceb_> 5 minutes after I first met him "my friend, do you like to swing both ways?" 2016-03-03T00:47:20 < Laurenceb_> "here I'll show you my adultwork account, its good part time job" 2016-03-03T00:47:52 < Laurenceb_> c# guy is part time ladyboy 2016-03-03T00:48:24 < Sync_> o_0 2016-03-03T00:49:04 < Laurenceb_> me: "sorry I'm not into that sort of thing" 2016-03-03T00:49:26 < Laurenceb_> him: "oh ok.... so do you know where to pick up cheapest girls in this city?" 2016-03-03T00:51:50 < Laurenceb_> now I know why they have morality police in Iran 2016-03-03T00:53:16 < Laurenceb_> 'Understanding of Control theory' and 'Working knowledge of i2c' in the same list is amusing 2016-03-03T00:53:17 < Laurenceb_> a bit like 'must be able to bring back the dead' and 'holds driving license' 2016-03-03T00:53:19 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-03T01:02:03 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/nRJjlkw 2016-03-03T01:09:15 < Laurenceb_> this http://jobs.getstartedhq.com/getstarted-job-board/ideas/621019?utm_content=buffer04532&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer 2016-03-03T01:39:09 < jadew> what is adultwork? 2016-03-03T01:39:29 < Laurenceb_> google is your friend 2016-03-03T01:39:31 < Laurenceb_> nsfw 2016-03-03T01:41:03 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@tkoskine.me] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T01:41:10 < jadew> is there anything free on that site? 2016-03-03T01:41:49 < Laurenceb_> lolno 2016-03-03T01:42:01 < Laurenceb_> you pay for access to holes, or sell yours 2016-03-03T01:42:36 < jadew> yeah, doesn't seem like my kind of site 2016-03-03T01:45:47 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T01:46:30 < jadew> well, that's kind of an odd second job for a programmer 2016-03-03T01:46:48 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-24-6.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-03T01:47:17 < jadew> you'd guess that he'd have enough money to buy himself all the pussy/dick he wants, when he wants it 2016-03-03T01:47:50 < jadew> unless he really really likes to suck dick, because I can't imagine a lot of women using these services 2016-03-03T01:48:14 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T01:50:06 < jadew> tbh, I don't know why men use them either, in my expeirence willing partners are easy to come by 2016-03-03T01:52:44 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-03T02:13:12 < Laurenceb_> yeah he seems to like to suck dick going from his account 2016-03-03T02:13:17 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T02:17:21 < Laurenceb_> https://archive.is/8QBXg 2016-03-03T02:22:24 < Laurenceb_> too much channing 2016-03-03T02:32:32 < dongs> sup doges 2016-03-03T02:32:38 < dongs> i see crt is pumping again 2016-03-03T02:38:50 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-24-6.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T02:39:41 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-03T02:44:52 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-03T02:45:53 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T02:47:08 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T02:49:02 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-03T02:49:13 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-24-6.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-03T02:58:17 < Laurenceb_> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/d/da/Caramel_onions.jpg/400px-Caramel_onions.jpg 2016-03-03T02:59:10 < dongs> Laurenceb_: whats the point 2016-03-03T02:59:39 < Laurenceb_> trolling 2016-03-03T03:14:27 < dongs> hm so yeah 2016-03-03T03:14:36 < dongs> still looking for a nice all in one lipo charger/powerpath 2016-03-03T03:20:17 < Lux> those bq parts are no good ? 2016-03-03T03:20:32 < Lux> i used the bq24075 once 2016-03-03T03:22:23 < Lux> it does temperature monitoring and you can disconnect the load from the battery 2016-03-03T03:25:15 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T03:27:15 < dongs> eh thats linear 2016-03-03T03:27:17 < dongs> ive used that too 2016-03-03T03:27:24 < dongs> this time i need something with a but more oomph 2016-03-03T03:27:35 < dongs> its like 10-20Ah cell 2016-03-03T03:27:41 < dongs> so i dont wanna charge it for half a year 2016-03-03T03:27:48 < Lux> so switchmode stuff 2016-03-03T03:27:51 < dongs> ya 2016-03-03T03:30:09 < Lux> what do you need such huge cells for ? 2016-03-03T03:30:13 < Lux> ebike stuff ? 2016-03-03T03:33:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T03:33:26 < Lux> heh, usb friendly and charge currents up to 10A http://www.ti.com/product/bq24618 2016-03-03T03:36:52 < dongs> 2 cell 2016-03-03T03:36:58 < dongs> fale 2016-03-03T03:37:03 < Laurenceb_> why all in one?? 2016-03-03T03:37:13 < Laurenceb_> I just use BQ24080 or whatever then a SEPIC 2016-03-03T03:37:25 < dongs> Laurenceb_: beacuse i want it to work 2016-03-03T03:37:32 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-03-03T03:37:36 < Laurenceb_> works fine for me 2016-03-03T03:38:08 < dongs> Stand-Alone Charge Controller to Support 1 to 6 2016-03-03T03:38:08 < dongs> Li-Ion or Li-Polymer Battery Cells 2016-03-03T03:38:15 < dongs> o wait, i guess 1 cell will work too 2016-03-03T03:40:32 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T03:41:02 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T03:46:01 < dongs> lotsa parts needed for it 2016-03-03T03:51:37 < Laurenceb_> what the hell are you doing 2016-03-03T03:51:53 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ti.com/product/BQ24080 2016-03-03T03:52:04 < Laurenceb_> use it on all my stuff 2016-03-03T03:56:58 < Lux> dongs: that part does 1 cell too 2016-03-03T03:57:02 < Lux> single cell right there 2016-03-03T03:57:08 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-03T04:00:04 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-03T04:00:11 < Lux> i guess you won't find anything >3A with hardly any external components 2016-03-03T04:01:07 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-8-171.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T04:07:23 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.83.173] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:07:34 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-03T04:14:27 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:20:26 -!- _stowa_ [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:23:08 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@85.214.49.83] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-03T04:23:32 -!- yan__ [~user@162.243.0.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:23:33 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:23:47 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.154.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T04:23:47 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T04:23:48 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T04:23:48 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T04:23:48 -!- yan [~user@162.243.0.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T04:24:35 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.154.208] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:25:51 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:34:41 < ColdKeyboard> Hello! I'm trying to light a LED with PWM on STM32F072 Nucleo board. I used CubeMX to generate code and I'm using channel 1 of timer1 2016-03-03T04:34:58 < ColdKeyboard> However whatever period I set or change pulse to, the LED still doesn't light up. :\ 2016-03-03T04:35:25 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:35:46 < ColdKeyboard> Here is the Timer1 init I have -> http://pastie.org/10745684 2016-03-03T04:36:28 < ColdKeyboard> Or just use 4 lemons in series and light the LED that way, then I don't even need a battery 2016-03-03T04:38:14 < owl-v-> PaulFertser: .elf, .bin how are they differ? and compiler output (size) -> http://pastebin.com/8PaSbDpQ 2016-03-03T04:42:08 -!- _stowa_ is now known as _stowa 2016-03-03T04:51:56 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.83.173] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-03T04:52:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:57:01 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-8.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T04:57:06 < timemob> sup dongs 2016-03-03T05:09:23 < timemob> just get Apple watch 2016-03-03T05:14:23 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T05:15:31 < englishman> You can get it in the same colour as your Mercedes, and it will depreciate at the same rate. 2016-03-03T05:15:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:18:06 < timemob> what color is that? "gay"? 2016-03-03T05:18:47 < timemob> or glossy white rage 2016-03-03T05:21:03 < timemob> sounds like you work with a bunch of fags 2016-03-03T05:21:35 < timemob> bbl 2016-03-03T05:21:42 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-8.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-03T05:24:59 -!- ReadError_ [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:25:35 -!- perillamint^fall [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:26:07 -!- Alexer- [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:26:12 -!- karlp_ [~karlp@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:26:28 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:29 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:29 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:29 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:30 -!- Lux [~Luggi09@snowden.it-syndikat.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:30 -!- karlp [~karlp@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:30 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:30 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-idmzxikawqjjidky] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:31 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-03T05:26:31 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:26:32 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-110-85.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:26:41 -!- funnel_ [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:26:54 -!- funnel_ is now known as funnel 2016-03-03T05:27:01 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:27:25 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:28:32 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.27.89.21] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:30:20 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:30:33 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-110-85.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:30:57 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-6-74.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:30:57 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-8.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:31:15 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-dzzeagwqxbujvcnx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:35:23 -!- wbraun_ [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-110-85.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:37:00 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-8.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-03T05:37:32 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-6-74.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-03T05:37:32 -!- wbraun_ is now known as wbraun 2016-03-03T05:42:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-03T05:46:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T05:52:04 -!- Lux [~Luggi09@snowden.it-syndikat.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T06:01:05 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-03T06:35:30 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-03T06:36:57 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T06:40:41 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T06:45:25 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T07:04:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-03T07:06:34 -!- ReadError_ is now known as ReadError 2016-03-03T07:16:40 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-03T07:28:34 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-110-85.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-03T07:28:36 < PaulFertser> owl-v-: elf files have plenty of metadata, bin files are assumed to be raw binary data. Now I'm sure that your ld script is wrong, it apparently maps your .text segment to 10000000 which doesn't correspond to flash on stm32. Also, you shouldn't specify any offset when using elf files. 2016-03-03T07:29:46 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-110-85.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T07:47:23 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-03T07:55:55 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-03T08:05:43 < dongs> zyp, confirm that I'm making like 112 arcin? 2016-03-03T08:08:13 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T08:20:40 < wbraun> I am still having issues getting divide working with a cortex-M0 2016-03-03T08:21:06 < wbraun> looking at the assembly it is branching to __aeabi__idiv 2016-03-03T08:21:14 < wbraun> then it hits a hard fault and hangs 2016-03-03T08:21:17 < dongs> thats integer division 2016-03-03T08:21:22 < dongs> and are you sure youre not dividing by zero? 2016-03-03T08:21:26 < jpa-> wbraun: step instruction-by-instruction to see where it crashes 2016-03-03T08:21:32 < wbraun> yep, set a breakpoint right before it 2016-03-03T08:21:39 < wbraun> and checked the values passed into it 2016-03-03T08:21:53 < jpa-> you can debug inside __aeabi__idiv also, you even have the source 2016-03-03T08:22:08 < wbraun> so thats what I am curious about / think might be wrong 2016-03-03T08:22:16 < wbraun> What / where is that? 2016-03-03T08:22:19 < wbraun> its a GCC thing? 2016-03-03T08:22:32 < dongs> yes 2016-03-03T08:22:34 < wbraun> the internet is telling me something about some gcc standard library? 2016-03-03T08:22:58 < dongs> he just ragequit 2016-03-03T08:23:03 < dongs> after you told him 2016-03-03T08:23:31 < wbraun> so where should I be able to find libgcc.a and how do I include it in my make file? 2016-03-03T08:24:00 < wbraun> Is this something I have to manually extract or can I locate it relative to the path of the gcc version I am using? 2016-03-03T08:24:19 < wbraun> none of the example makefiles for stm32 I can find online seem to include this 2016-03-03T08:24:51 < dongs> its part of gcc 2016-03-03T08:25:06 < jpa-> yeah, comes from libgcc 2016-03-03T08:25:12 < jpa-> usually you don't have debug symbols offhand 2016-03-03T08:25:58 < jpa-> unless it comes from newlib.. 2016-03-03T08:26:08 < dongs> can you reduce this to like 3 liens of code? 2016-03-03T08:26:28 < wbraun> also, why am I not getting any errors at compile time? 2016-03-03T08:26:30 < dongs> int main(void) { int a = 14; int b = 88; int c = a / b; } ? 2016-03-03T08:26:42 < dongs> and see if it still crashes 2016-03-03T08:27:13 < jpa-> maybe volatile int c to make it not get optimized out 2016-03-03T08:27:23 < jpa-> wbraun: errors about what? 2016-03-03T08:27:41 < wbraun> about __aeabi__idiv not being defined or something 2016-03-03T08:27:45 < dongs> er 2016-03-03T08:27:48 < dongs> its defined 2016-03-03T08:27:50 < dongs> its in teh lib. 2016-03-03T08:27:58 < dongs> if it jumps to it and crashes there, clearly its being defined. 2016-03-03T08:29:29 < jpa-> https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/bd3f0a53c07086e978ea4ec00e10a20e4a969c40/libgcc/config/arm/lib1funcs.S#L1112 here is the idiv 2016-03-03T08:29:49 < jpa-> wbraun: if you are using gdb, display /i $pc then use stepi to step until it crashes 2016-03-03T08:31:23 < jpa-> considering it doesn't seem to access memory much, i would think your stack pointer is crappy 2016-03-03T08:32:32 < wbraun> so I typie “display /i $pc” ? 2016-03-03T08:33:29 < wbraun> it hitting the reset handler 2016-03-03T08:33:50 < jpa-> after tracing it up to the crash, you may want to pastebin the log 2016-03-03T08:34:20 < emeb_mac> i hate it when I pause execution in gdb and it's in the default handler with no viable stack trace. 2016-03-03T08:34:32 < emeb_mac> seems to happen 90% of the time. 2016-03-03T08:34:59 < jpa-> yeah, gdb's stack tracing from interrupts seems awfully fragile 2016-03-03T08:35:04 < dongs> opensoresproblems 2016-03-03T08:35:19 < jpa-> i usually just x /16xw $sp and then info address 0x08000xxx 2016-03-03T08:36:06 < emeb_mac> that almost made sense 2016-03-03T08:36:24 * emeb_mac is not a gdb power user 2016-03-03T08:37:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-03T08:37:41 < wbraun> hurm, GCC is showing aeabi_idiv_from_thumb 2016-03-03T08:37:44 < wbraun> which is bad 2016-03-03T08:37:53 < wbraun> Cortex-M0 is not thumb 2016-03-03T08:38:05 < wbraun> or is ti? 2016-03-03T08:38:21 < wbraun> oh wait, it is 2016-03-03T08:39:40 < wbraun> so it looks like it is makign its way to the routine and shitting itself in the middle of it 2016-03-03T08:40:00 < jpa-> so stepi until it shits :) 2016-03-03T08:40:40 < wbraun> http://pastebin.com/JXSBWDN3 2016-03-03T08:44:16 < wbraun> stc2 is a coprocessor instruction? 2016-03-03T08:45:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T08:49:05 < wbraun> so that implies that something is horribly wrong 2016-03-03T08:50:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.227] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T08:50:59 -!- Guest11014 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T08:53:49 < wbraun> so is it pulling the wrong version of aeabi_idiv? 2016-03-03T08:54:02 < wbraun> Also I can not find where aeabi_idiv is defined 2016-03-03T09:02:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T09:09:10 < jpa-> wbraun: which gcc toolchain are you using? 2016-03-03T09:09:50 < jpa-> (also, wtf is bx pc) 2016-03-03T09:10:12 < jpa-> _from_thumb seems like it is including some ancient non-armv7m libgcc 2016-03-03T09:13:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.21] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:16:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T09:18:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:24:20 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T09:25:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:28:22 < wbraun> I am using arm-none-eabi-gcc jpa- 2016-03-03T09:29:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T09:29:27 < jpa-> wbraun: there are plenty of differences between different build options of that; where did you get yours from? 2016-03-03T09:29:37 < jpa-> (i'd recommend launchpad arm gcc embedded) 2016-03-03T09:30:02 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:30:19 < wbraun> A makefile from a friend 2016-03-03T09:30:34 < wbraun> I was using it for a STM32F334, then I modified it for the 051 2016-03-03T09:30:51 < jpa-> so most likely it is a broken build 2016-03-03T09:30:54 < jpa-> lacks multilib or something 2016-03-03T09:31:01 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:31:03 < wbraun> multilib? 2016-03-03T09:31:14 < jpa-> support for multiple cpu archs in single gcc build 2016-03-03T09:31:23 < jpa-> without multilib it will only support one processor type 2016-03-03T09:31:25 < jpa-> https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded try this 2016-03-03T09:31:53 < jpa-> (and no, of course it does not warn if it lacks support for a processor - that wouldn't be the gcc way) 2016-03-03T09:33:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-03T09:34:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:34:33 < wbraun> gah! Stupid mistake 2016-03-03T09:34:49 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T09:34:52 < wbraun> the tools I use for FPGA stuff overwrote my default gcc path 2016-03-03T09:35:12 < wbraun> and it uses some old/weird version of GCC that is out of date 2016-03-03T09:35:20 < wbraun> now I removed that and it seems to work 2016-03-03T09:35:24 < wbraun> thanks jpa-! 2016-03-03T09:35:31 < jpa-> :) 2016-03-03T09:36:31 < wbraun> the shitty FPGA tools cause me trouble even when I am not using FPGAs :P 2016-03-03T09:45:59 < zyp> dongs, confirmed 2016-03-03T10:05:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T10:21:53 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T10:32:25 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T10:38:10 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-03T10:38:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T10:39:29 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T10:42:02 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T10:42:07 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T10:45:39 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-03T10:47:46 < dongs> zyp which ones are more used connectors 2016-03-03T10:47:51 < dongs> theres about 2K of 2P and 300 of 4P left 2016-03-03T10:48:21 < zyp> there's 2x2P on each board, so you'll only use a bit over 200 of those 2016-03-03T10:49:00 < zyp> there's 13x4P, so that's like 1500 total 2016-03-03T10:50:58 < dongs> ah 2016-03-03T10:51:02 < dongs> ok getting a bag 2016-03-03T10:53:18 < dongs> of 4P 2016-03-03T10:54:09 < dongs> qyx: high altitude remote is back https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/High-Altitude-High-Range-Remote-9828345/ 2016-03-03T10:54:35 < dongs> i see why it was kept getting deleted 2016-03-03T10:54:38 < dongs> cuz it included emails in i t 2016-03-03T10:54:41 < dongs> this one doesnt ahve 2016-03-03T10:55:48 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/php/ChristianMingle-Checker/ yess 2016-03-03T10:56:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-03T10:57:03 < zyp> wat 2016-03-03T10:59:05 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T11:19:46 < qyx> heh, usa only 2016-03-03T11:20:33 < PeterM> Fat and single? Christian Mingle. 2016-03-03T11:22:23 < dongs> PeterM: did you see my tweet 2016-03-03T11:22:25 < dongs> wiht keyclones 2016-03-03T11:22:56 < dongs> retweeted again from real account 2016-03-03T11:22:58 < PeterM> yep thanks, jsut working out how many to get 2016-03-03T11:23:17 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T11:23:20 < dongs> kk 2016-03-03T11:23:32 < dongs> wasnt sure cuz shit was dropping out every minute thanks japan advanced internet 2016-03-03T11:24:58 < PeterM> nah no worries 2016-03-03T11:25:19 < dongs> zyp, RBT6 ran out 2016-03-03T11:25:26 < dongs> can I sub with RCT6? 2016-03-03T11:26:00 < dongs> its actually ~cheaper 2016-03-03T11:26:03 < dongs> by .80 2016-03-03T11:26:08 < qyx> lol 2016-03-03T11:26:32 < dongs> supply and demand 2016-03-03T11:29:04 -!- Cyric_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-03T11:30:48 < dongs> im gonna guess you dont mind 2016-03-03T11:31:50 < zyp> sure 2016-03-03T11:31:52 < PeterM> i think he'd pay the $100 or whatever and save a week waiting 2016-03-03T11:32:54 < dongs> lol, your parts list is liek $100 less this tiem zyp 2016-03-03T11:32:58 < dongs> emailing invoice. 2016-03-03T11:33:02 < zyp> nice 2016-03-03T11:35:08 < dongs> wait. 2016-03-03T11:35:10 < dongs> that one had mistake 2016-03-03T11:35:12 < dongs> sending nw one 2016-03-03T11:37:47 < zyp> ok, paid the last one 2016-03-03T11:39:20 < dongs> now you gotta think of waht to do wiht all that extra flash 2016-03-03T11:40:10 < zyp> haha 2016-03-03T11:41:23 < zyp> let's see, B got 128k, C got 256k 2016-03-03T11:41:40 < zyp> I'm probably using <32k 2016-03-03T11:41:45 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-03T11:41:50 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-03T11:42:06 < dongs> add in some buttcoin cracking code 2016-03-03T11:42:06 < zyp> newer firmware got config in a late sector, I think 2016-03-03T11:42:29 < zyp> so less would probably require a firmware change 2016-03-03T11:42:32 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T11:42:32 < zyp> but should fit 2016-03-03T11:42:49 < dongs> less? 2016-03-03T11:42:54 < dongs> RC is *more* right? 2016-03-03T11:42:55 < dongs> so how is that a problem 2016-03-03T11:43:05 < zyp> it's not, I'm just thinking 2016-03-03T11:43:23 < zyp> I could probably fit everyting in R6 2016-03-03T11:43:48 < zyp> oh, they got less memory 2016-03-03T11:44:26 < zyp> hmm, R6/R8 looks pretty different actually 2016-03-03T11:44:40 < zyp> periph differences too 2016-03-03T11:45:26 < zyp> but I know RC works, that's what the first prototypes I assembled myself used 2016-03-03T11:46:19 < zyp> ah, config is in last sector of 128k 2016-03-03T11:50:42 < dongs> eh? 2016-03-03T11:50:43 < dongs> oh oaky 2016-03-03T12:04:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/php/Real-Time-Digital-Signal-Processing/ 2016-03-03T12:04:40 < dongs> haha 2016-03-03T12:04:44 < dongs> If you claim to be an expert in this field. There are some questions I will be asking you on your thought process, so only work with me if you know what is the project about. Stop telling me, you know you know, and you cannot even describe anything about this designing process. Our money is hard earn and we want to create a respect communication here. 2016-03-03T12:04:49 < dongs> looks like someone got burned a few times 2016-03-03T12:05:03 < dongs> I got $1040 in feelancer, I should probly withdraw it before they find out I'm actually a pro 2016-03-03T12:05:12 < dongs> i mean a newb 2016-03-03T12:08:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Programming-stm-controller-cortex/ 2016-03-03T12:16:38 < owl-v-> thanks PaulFertser 2016-03-03T12:20:08 < PaulFertser> owl-v-: so, bad ld script it was? Where did you get it from? 2016-03-03T12:21:18 < jpa-> hmm, should make a bunch of github projects with subtly incorrect ld scripts.. things like dropping a byte or few 2016-03-03T12:28:23 < owl-v-> PaulFertser: I omitted address offset when flashing --> http://pastebin.com/KEjDCQu2 2016-03-03T12:28:56 < owl-v-> PaulFertser: I got it from http://gnuarmeclipse.github.io 2016-03-03T12:29:52 < PaulFertser> owl-v-: ok 2016-03-03T12:48:35 -!- Jegeva [~Jegeva@94-225-160-208.access.telenet.be] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T12:50:00 < Jegeva> hello guys&gals, i have a problem with cpsid/cpsie intruction (memory barrier), i tough that after cpsie the pending interrupts would be managed but apparetnly they are not firing anymore, any idea why ? 2016-03-03T12:52:55 < jpa-> they should be 2016-03-03T12:54:55 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKdzlqQVppMTVHQjQ/view?usp=sharing I wonder if I should go today again 2016-03-03T12:55:01 < kakimir> my arms are sore 2016-03-03T12:58:30 < Jegeva> jpa-: yeah i know, but they dont, at least now i know the understading is good... 2016-03-03T13:13:10 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kwddsvidotlkkgmo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:16:04 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:16:04 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-03T13:16:04 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:16:19 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-03T13:16:44 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:19:41 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:21:06 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-03T13:21:07 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-03-03T13:26:37 < kakimir> ebay diodes.. any good? 2016-03-03T13:26:58 < kakimir> basic THT some few amperes and few hundred volts 2016-03-03T13:27:19 < kakimir> price - nothing 2016-03-03T13:31:05 < kakimir> I mean chinese selling diodes 2016-03-03T13:35:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-84.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:41:31 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Design-BRD-PCB-Board/ 2016-03-03T13:42:29 < lorenzo> what's to design? 2016-03-03T13:42:47 < lorenzo> sometimes I'd bid 5$ and win the stuff just out of curiosity :D 2016-03-03T13:43:42 < dongs> lorenzo: and do what 2016-03-03T13:43:46 < dongs> just troll them? 2016-03-03T13:44:06 < dongs> http://www.zmescience.com/research/technology/mosul-dam-engineers-03022016/ 2016-03-03T13:44:10 < dongs> and nothing of value will be lost amirite? 2016-03-03T13:44:23 < kakimir> do you have obligation to deliver? 2016-03-03T13:44:26 < dongs> no 2016-03-03T13:44:31 < kakimir> sweet 2016-03-03T13:44:36 < lorenzo> I think you just get negative feedback 2016-03-03T13:44:53 < kakimir> freelancer is the pee 2016-03-03T13:44:59 < lorenzo> and I don't see why you'd care since it's an online profile, it's not that someone will come and punch you in the face ;o 2016-03-03T13:45:19 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/linzy1229.html?ref_project_id=9822386 theres chinks like this just trolling 2016-03-03T13:45:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/xRQWUYB.jpg 2016-03-03T13:45:32 < dongs> example of above account 2016-03-03T13:45:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:46:42 < lorenzo> what we've got here is failure to communicate 2016-03-03T13:47:24 -!- karlp_ is now known as karlp 2016-03-03T13:47:55 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-03T13:48:24 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T13:50:50 < Sync_> watt dongs 2016-03-03T13:52:26 < PaulFertser> lorenzo: I think I saw some freelance job offers that required to come and physically punch a nasty freelancer in the face, and then send back photo-proofs. Paid in bitcoins. 2016-03-03T13:52:34 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Manufacturer-Needed-Microcontroller-USB/ 2016-03-03T13:52:37 < dongs> what does this guy want 2016-03-03T13:53:31 < lorenzo> a card skimmer? 2016-03-03T13:53:39 < dongs> 400 is a bit much for one 2016-03-03T13:54:04 < dongs> he freelanced 53 things 2016-03-03T13:54:07 < dongs> on that site 2016-03-03T13:55:15 < lorenzo> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Excel/Excel-Graph-Professional-Easy-Quick/ 2016-03-03T13:56:10 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32395200912.htmlhttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32395200912.html 2016-03-03T13:56:15 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32395200912.html 2016-03-03T13:56:39 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-03T13:56:58 < lorenzo> photoshop troll 2016-03-03T13:59:45 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T14:00:39 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-03T14:00:52 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Linux/Vivante-Etnaviv-GPU-driver-installation/ 2016-03-03T14:01:09 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-03T14:01:56 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T14:02:04 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-layout-design-9825669/ haha 2016-03-03T14:06:54 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T14:12:02 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T14:54:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T14:55:36 < lorenzo> u having fun 2016-03-03T14:55:37 < lorenzo> :D 2016-03-03T15:08:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-03T15:12:07 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-03T15:23:24 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-03T15:42:28 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T15:43:42 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-168-108-211.range86-168.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T15:43:45 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon_Stylites 2016-03-03T15:46:25 < Laurenceb_> still more productive than zano 2016-03-03T15:49:35 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T15:50:09 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T16:08:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T16:41:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-03T16:42:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.213] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T16:50:57 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10746392 2016-03-03T16:51:17 < Laurenceb_> What if he hasn't reached puberty yet? Does he get 72 Xboxes till he comes of age? 2016-03-03T16:51:18 < Laurenceb_> lolling 2016-03-03T16:52:00 < qyx> anyone knows of any pro-crypto channel? 2016-03-03T16:54:56 < zyp> ##nsa 2016-03-03T16:56:01 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-03T16:56:09 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-03T17:03:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-84.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T17:03:17 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T17:04:34 < qyx> meh 2016-03-03T17:06:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:10:04 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-58-156-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:17:03 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-58-156-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-03T17:19:23 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:20:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-03T17:22:35 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@host-58-156-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:23:51 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-03T17:26:51 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@host-58-156-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-03T17:33:32 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:34:36 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:37:52 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-03T17:38:07 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T17:47:01 < Laurenceb_> ADS1298 sucks :-/ 2016-03-03T17:47:25 < Laurenceb_> theoretically an ECG device should be able to work with 2 electrodes, def with 3 2016-03-03T17:48:19 < Laurenceb_> ADS1298 configuration control sucks so much its virtually impossible to do that with a muti electrode config :-/ 2016-03-03T17:51:12 < englishman> just 2? 2016-03-03T17:51:24 < englishman> last time i got ecg there were like 12 sensors 2016-03-03T17:54:00 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats what I've got 2016-03-03T17:54:11 < Laurenceb_> 12 lead cable, but its going to fail pretty epically 2016-03-03T17:54:24 < Laurenceb_> you can measure differential voltage with 2 leads 2016-03-03T17:55:21 < Laurenceb_> but can ADS1298 do that in a reconfigurable way... not really 2016-03-03T17:58:08 < BrainDamage> i tought that medical ecgs were interested in the polarization vector because it rotates and you needed 3 to determine the direction and keep the ampplitude info because of the projection 2016-03-03T17:58:38 < Laurenceb_> sometimes 2016-03-03T18:00:02 < Laurenceb_> I think I can more or less make it work, but its going to get horrible complex 2016-03-03T18:00:05 < englishman> with ecg feedback you could drug horses mid race 2016-03-03T18:00:09 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-03T18:00:13 < englishman> keep their heartrate in line wiht adrenalin doses 2016-03-03T18:00:33 < Laurenceb_> need AC current injection and demodulation for "electrode health" monitoring 2016-03-03T18:01:41 < BrainDamage> do you have to add that stupid common mode feedback too for a horse? 2016-03-03T18:02:39 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-03-03T18:02:52 < Laurenceb_> thats the problem 2016-03-03T18:03:01 < Laurenceb_> if the common mode electrode fails its dead 2016-03-03T18:03:20 < Laurenceb_> luckily I can remap, so if it fails I'll have to remap to another electrode 2016-03-03T18:04:02 < Laurenceb_> then you need to use the "wilson central terminal" thing too as a negative input if you want to use the PGA with a decent gain and keep it stable 2016-03-03T18:04:17 < Laurenceb_> so that needs remapping and stuff on the fly as electrodes fail/come back 2016-03-03T18:04:21 < Laurenceb_> massive pita 2016-03-03T18:05:16 < BrainDamage> qyx: #gnupg perhaps 2016-03-03T18:09:30 -!- rewolff [~wolff@cust-95-128-94-82.breedbanddelft.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T18:13:18 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-03T18:16:45 < Laurenceb_> how do I sign extend a 24 bit singed integer? 2016-03-03T18:17:03 < Laurenceb_> left shift, typecast and divide? 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I see MOVT instruction, but where is MOVW instruction?? -->https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-M 2016-03-03T19:02:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T19:02:41 < owl-v-> like here --> https://community.arm.com/groups/processors/blog/2010/07/27/how-to-load-constants-in-assembly-for-arm-architecture 2016-03-03T19:04:29 < aandrew> yeah there are some interesting tricks with ARM since the opcodes are as wide as the data 2016-03-03T19:07:47 < owl-v-> funny, (MOV, MOVT) are pair :P --> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0552a/BABDBAGE.html 2016-03-03T19:10:51 < Sync_> so Laurenceb_? 2016-03-03T19:10:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T19:20:32 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T19:20:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T19:24:35 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-03T19:33:18 < Laurenceb_> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ef_1457019586 2016-03-03T19:41:33 < Steffanx> must be fake. 2016-03-03T19:46:22 < englishman> Laurenceb_: plz increase post quality 2016-03-03T19:46:30 < englishman> quality is dangerously low atm 2016-03-03T19:46:56 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ has his end of winter depression. 2016-03-03T19:48:51 < lorenzo> https://i.imgur.com/Gh53REy.gifv 2016-03-03T19:48:56 < lorenzo> nigga went BANG 2016-03-03T19:49:35 < lorenzo> look at that groove left in the concrete by the rim 2016-03-03T19:49:46 < lorenzo> must be some serious pressure 2016-03-03T19:49:58 < aandrew> damn 2016-03-03T19:50:02 < aandrew> truck tires are under incredible pressure 2016-03-03T19:50:07 < aandrew> it's not 40psi like passenger cars 2016-03-03T19:50:12 < aandrew> it's upward of 100-150psi 2016-03-03T19:50:28 < Sync_> 6-9 bar 2016-03-03T19:52:36 < Sync_> they are handling a small bomb there :D 2016-03-03T20:02:27 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:9d4f:b1e8:1ba9:1692] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T20:06:39 < aandrew> http://i.imgur.com/QtHFscE.gifv 2016-03-03T20:09:03 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-03T20:09:54 < Sync_> wat 2016-03-03T20:14:45 < englishman> hahaha 2016-03-03T20:17:32 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T20:18:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T20:20:43 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-03T20:29:35 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T20:46:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-03T20:54:21 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T21:05:42 -!- yan__ is now known as yan 2016-03-03T21:22:19 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-110-85.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-03T21:29:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-03T21:33:05 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-60-228.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T21:39:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-03T21:43:31 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T21:49:36 -!- 21WAACPL8 [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T21:51:29 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-60-228.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-03T21:57:49 -!- 21WAACPL8 [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-03T22:02:38 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T22:06:20 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-03-03T22:07:30 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T22:56:33 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-03T22:58:10 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-03-03T23:07:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-03T23:08:37 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKRGYxeGM5VTlkS2M/view?usp=sharing some old fashioned switch box 2016-03-03T23:09:35 < kakimir> took.. 6hours to make 2016-03-03T23:12:34 < kakimir> diodes for operating main solenoid 2016-03-03T23:14:21 < kakimir> receive some coins for it 2016-03-03T23:29:22 < Laurenceb_> got any coins m8 2016-03-03T23:29:57 < kakimir> 30euro cents m8 2016-03-03T23:30:13 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRgYjHNQxc 2016-03-03T23:33:43 < kakimir> describe london Laurenceb_ 2016-03-03T23:33:54 < kakimir> and if worth visit and how long? 2016-03-03T23:34:07 < Laurenceb_> dunno, expensive and boring if you ask me 2016-03-03T23:34:25 < Laurenceb_> loads of overhyped and stupid tourist attractions and stuff 2016-03-03T23:34:41 < kakimir> and tourists 2016-03-03T23:34:44 < Laurenceb_> only worth visiting for conference evens etc 2016-03-03T23:35:04 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-03T23:35:59 < kakimir> it's huge 2016-03-03T23:36:14 < kakimir> and water of thames looks like shit 2016-03-03T23:36:26 < Laurenceb_> haha probably because it is 2016-03-03T23:36:37 < XTL> Still supposedly one of the cleanest rivers around 2016-03-03T23:36:46 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T23:36:48 < XTL> silty perhaps 2016-03-03T23:36:49 < Laurenceb_> although they wait for after high tide to release the raw sewage 2016-03-03T23:37:33 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-03T23:37:59 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-03T23:38:06 < kakimir> so much parks 2016-03-03T23:38:43 < kakimir> and everything is patterned with plants and roads in those 2016-03-03T23:39:04 < kakimir> and there is at least 2 palaces for one park 2016-03-03T23:39:34 < kakimir> and everything is named after royals 2016-03-03T23:42:09 < Laurenceb_> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5177095,-0.0655235,3a,66.8y,207.67h,97.58t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svZrrzEP3dWYH5SBoz8OHxQ!2e0 2016-03-03T23:42:16 < Laurenceb_> there is something more suitable then 2016-03-03T23:45:35 < kakimir> cars are on wrong side of the road! 2016-03-03T23:50:07 < Laurenceb_> typical london residents https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sxeSjfC--Eg/maxresdefault.jpg 2016-03-03T23:51:46 < Laurenceb_> http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/large.jpeg lul 2016-03-03T23:57:42 < Laurenceb_> http://8ch.net/n/res/324912.html --- Day changed Fri Mar 04 2016 2016-03-04T00:09:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-04T00:09:59 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:11:07 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:11:49 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-04T00:12:57 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:14:15 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-04T00:16:53 < artag> Laurenceb_: that one's very plain. there's one like the taj mahal in west london 2016-03-04T00:18:14 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:20:01 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-126.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:21:56 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-03-04T00:24:45 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/KbFwUkB.gifv 2016-03-04T00:25:11 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:25:11 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-04T00:33:14 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T00:38:28 < ColdKeyboard> Could someone take a peek at my code http://pastebin.com/faBEuFD9 2016-03-04T00:38:57 < ColdKeyboard> I'm not sure if I'm attaching TIM1 to the GPIO_A8 correctly here 2016-03-04T00:39:34 < ColdKeyboard> Im using STM32F072 btw 2016-03-04T00:44:46 < ds2> diff pair routing isn't that horrible in eagle 2016-03-04T00:45:36 < karlp> when you read the manual properly and name the nets the way they want them :) 2016-03-04T00:52:30 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone care to give some input? :\ 2016-03-04T01:05:23 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so9DBHCo64Q musicspams 2016-03-04T01:14:14 < Lux> ColdKeyboard: you probably should enable the gpio clock before setting the AF stuff 2016-03-04T01:15:24 < ColdKeyboard> Lux: Thanks. I'll try putting RCC_AHBPeriphClockCmd(RCC_AHBPeriph_GPIOA, ENABLE); on top of the init function 2016-03-04T01:15:54 < ColdKeyboard> Altough I've already called it almost in the top of main :\ 2016-03-04T01:16:05 < Lux> ah ok, then it won't matter 2016-03-04T01:17:08 < ColdKeyboard> Am I missing something during the init or doing something wrong? :\ 2016-03-04T01:18:34 < Lux> idk, maybe you selected the wrong pinsource or whatever 2016-03-04T01:18:48 < Lux> recheck that stuff in the datasheet 2016-03-04T01:19:31 < ColdKeyboard> Ok, will do. 2016-03-04T01:19:34 < Lux> there is a table somewhere on that mapping 2016-03-04T01:19:49 < Lux> probably in the ref manual 2016-03-04T01:19:55 < ColdKeyboard> I'm looking at it on page 41 2016-03-04T01:20:11 < ColdKeyboard> TIM1_CH1 is AF2 2016-03-04T01:20:17 < ColdKeyboard> and pin is PA8 2016-03-04T01:29:58 < Lux> you are missing that: TIM_CtrlPWMOutputs(TIM1, ENABLE); i guess 2016-03-04T01:31:18 < Lux> ColdKeyboard: why didn't you just copy one of the stdperiph lib examples ? 2016-03-04T01:31:32 < Lux> those work usually and are a good start 2016-03-04T01:32:04 < ColdKeyboard> Lux: I totally forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me! I'll look into it right away 2016-03-04T01:33:09 < ColdKeyboard> Lux: You were right, I have forgotten to add TIM_CtrlPWMOutputs(TIM1, ENABLE); 2016-03-04T01:33:19 < ColdKeyboard> Thank you! 2016-03-04T01:36:45 < jadew> so... a project of mine got complimented by other developers today, that felt good 2016-03-04T01:36:49 < karlp> ahh, I love technology. using my beer to check the temp sensor on board is working... 2016-03-04T01:37:09 < karlp> holding the corner of the can on top of the package and watching the temp drop :) 2016-03-04T01:37:15 < karlp> jadew: congrats! 2016-03-04T01:37:26 < jadew> heh, yeah, made my day 2016-03-04T01:37:54 -!- dfgg [~damian@195.154.165.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T01:38:16 < jadew> it's not something that happens often, especially not when it's sincere (I know it was for real because they didn't do it to my face) 2016-03-04T01:38:17 < ColdKeyboard> jadew: Congrats! :) 2016-03-04T01:40:03 < ColdKeyboard> crt: Thanks. Yes they are. But if you are newbie like me they first make you cry and die a little bit inside, then when they start working you feel good :) 2016-03-04T01:41:27 < ColdKeyboard> I like that stm32 has so many timers and so many channels 2016-03-04T01:43:14 < dongs> http://www.iflscience.org/japan-engineers-design-robotic-bear-to-aid-in-assisted-suicide/ 2016-03-04T01:44:26 < dongs> cant tell if troll 2016-03-04T01:47:07 < XTL> Always something people wanted more of 2016-03-04T01:47:09 < jadew> isn't that old news 2016-03-04T01:47:22 < XTL> I guess arm makers decided it was cheap to deliver 2016-03-04T01:47:31 < zyp> «SeppuKuma» 2016-03-04T01:47:40 < XTL> I should look at input capturing sometime 2016-03-04T02:25:00 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T02:42:30 < Lux> dongs: that's a troll 2016-03-04T02:43:25 < dongs> k 2016-03-04T02:43:38 < dongs> which one of you trolls ever developed something in C for esp14/88 2016-03-04T02:43:43 < dongs> is there debugger etc support 2016-03-04T02:43:53 < dongs> or is it just flash and tarduino style 2016-03-04T02:44:22 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-126.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-04T02:45:36 < dongs> http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/esp8266/openocd/ 2016-03-04T02:45:38 < dongs> looks like it has debug 2016-03-04T02:47:43 < dongs> E.g. you can reduce the JTAG speed to improve stability or disable interrupt suppression or watchdog feeding features if they are interfering with your code. 2016-03-04T02:47:46 < dongs> uhh 2016-03-04T02:48:14 < dongs> what kinda shitty hardware design do you have when jtag is interfering with the core running 2016-03-04T02:49:20 < dongs> $1.45 more liek 2016-03-04T02:50:37 < Lux> you can get full modules for like 2$ im small quantities 2016-03-04T02:50:43 < dongs> right 2016-03-04T02:51:11 < Lux> i just wonder how many pins jtag debugging will use, as there aren't many anyway 2016-03-04T02:52:05 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-126.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T02:53:10 < Lux> ah ok, it seems to run via the serial interface 2016-03-04T02:53:28 < dongs> just usual jtag 2016-03-04T02:53:32 < dongs> TMS TDI TCK TDO 2016-03-04T02:53:49 < dongs> seems overlayed wiht other shit 2016-03-04T02:55:11 < Lux> http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/esp8266/gdbstub/ so they have something in the rtos for debugging i guess 2016-03-04T02:55:18 < Lux> that makes me think otherwise 2016-03-04T02:55:31 < dongs> thats the gdbstub 2016-03-04T02:55:35 < Lux> also ther is no stuff about jtag in the datasheet 2016-03-04T02:55:37 < dongs> there's proper hardware jtag 2016-03-04T02:55:42 < Lux> ok 2016-03-04T02:56:10 < dongs> .. at least i hope so, according to pin names 2016-03-04T02:57:07 < dongs> datasheet says: JTAG Interface for debugging 2016-03-04T02:58:45 < dongs> yeah, that blogpost says "without any jtag hardare" so its for poor jews who don't own a jlink or something 2016-03-04T02:58:56 < dongs> and just wanna arduino it up 2016-03-04T02:59:29 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-04T03:00:31 < Lux> ah, now i see it 2016-03-04T03:00:33 < Lux> ctrf-f jtag didn't find anything in the ds so i was confused 2016-03-04T03:01:27 < Lux> http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/esp8266/ 2016-03-04T03:02:12 < Lux> good to know, i'll add something to the blinkie board i'm making 2016-03-04T03:05:39 < Laurenceb_> dongs is using esp?? 2016-03-04T03:05:49 < Laurenceb_> but perman00b :P 2016-03-04T03:07:02 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-04T03:07:12 < dongs> im not even using wifi part of it. 2016-03-04T03:07:29 < dongs> thinking to throw it somewehre where I can use 80mhz $1.45 processor at 2016-03-04T03:11:08 < Laurenceb_> a current eating processor with no flash 2016-03-04T03:11:56 < dongs> the codei need to run on it will fit into 64k iram that it has. 2016-03-04T03:12:41 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-04T03:14:33 * Laurenceb_ is trying to get ADS1298 running 2016-03-04T03:14:39 < Laurenceb_> 1k lines of shit later... 2016-03-04T03:16:51 < dongs> aids1298 2016-03-04T03:18:39 < Laurenceb_> its pretty aids 2016-03-04T03:20:35 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/embedded-systems-engineer/ 2016-03-04T03:20:42 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-126.mit.edu] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-04T03:20:47 < dongs> > 8-10 years of experience 2016-03-04T03:20:52 < dongs> > $750 budget 2016-03-04T03:22:04 < Laurenceb_> stupid mux stuff is mega fail 2016-03-04T03:23:52 < dongs> motherfucker 2016-03-04T03:23:57 < dongs> fucked up this jig AGAIN 2016-03-04T03:24:14 < dongs> first time = wrong size holes for pogo pins 2016-03-04T03:24:18 < Laurenceb_> have to do loads of on the fly remapping 2016-03-04T03:24:22 < dongs> 2nd time = didn't notice first time that gnd/vcc pegs were swapped 2016-03-04T03:24:27 < dongs> .... 2016-03-04T03:28:09 < dongs> not donwloading a png posted by pumper 2016-03-04T03:29:31 < dongs> heh 2016-03-04T03:31:59 < dongs> gonna work around it i guess 2016-03-04T03:33:13 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:9d4f:b1e8:1ba9:1692] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T03:33:51 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-04T03:42:17 < dongs> well at lest jig works after sorta fixing it 2016-03-04T03:47:21 < dongs> 56 boars flashed yay 2016-03-04T03:47:37 < dongs> way better than holding cortex-debug connector for ~5 seconds while flashing over swed 2016-03-04T03:47:42 < dongs> swd, each board indivudally 2016-03-04T03:48:34 < dongs> freelancin 2016-03-04T03:49:51 < dongs> no i get paid to troll on irc 2016-03-04T03:49:54 < dongs> pay-per-line 2016-03-04T03:51:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-168-108-211.range86-168.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T03:51:45 < Getty> dongs: i hope you take a high rate for this, you are a true professional 2016-03-04T03:52:14 < dongs> at trolling? 4sure 2016-03-04T03:52:31 < Getty> a friend of mine btw was making a (fake) sex chat where the user paid per line........ trust me, you dont want these customers ;) 2016-03-04T03:52:31 < dongs> 99th percentile 2016-03-04T04:03:44 < dongs> > keyboard with 10key 2016-03-04T04:03:45 < dongs> not pro enough 2016-03-04T04:09:10 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T04:20:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T04:31:36 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T04:38:45 < dongs> and all boards work 2016-03-04T04:38:46 < dongs> yay 2016-03-04T04:42:10 < lorenzo> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcpUeRiUAAAtI4l.jpg 2016-03-04T04:48:53 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.81.206] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T04:49:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T04:49:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-04T05:01:38 < dongs> Did you know? Donald Trump's favorite sexual move is the "Tronald Dump" where two men blowing each other in the 69 position both begin shitting and whoever throws up first has to eat all the feces. 2016-03-04T05:03:23 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.81.206] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-04T05:24:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-04T05:50:42 < lorenzo> heil trump, DIE NEUE FUHRER 2016-03-04T05:51:14 < lorenzo> http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-EA745_trump_MG_20151208111532.jpg 2016-03-04T05:52:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T05:52:41 < lorenzo> R2COM: I'm more of a Lenin guy 2016-03-04T05:53:04 < lorenzo> good guy vlad 2016-03-04T05:54:36 < dongs> what hte fuck is wrong wiht keeping out muslims 2016-03-04T05:54:45 < dongs> sounds like a solid decision to me 2016-03-04T05:55:34 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-04T05:56:12 < lorenzo> dongs: nah, who do we make fun of then 2016-03-04T05:56:32 < lorenzo> gays are so old fashioned, and so are mexicans 2016-03-04T05:56:33 < dongs> jews 2016-03-04T05:56:41 < dongs> they're always fun to make fun of 2016-03-04T06:21:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:21:36 < upgrdman> reading some code... you know it's going to be good when you see if(((((( foo ... 2016-03-04T06:29:52 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:30:09 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:32:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:34:11 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:35:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:35:37 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:36:46 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:37:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:38:11 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:38:49 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:38:57 -!- karlp [~karlp@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:42:06 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:44:12 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:46:11 -!- karlp [~karlp@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:54:25 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T06:55:47 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T06:58:30 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-04T06:58:42 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T07:00:10 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T07:01:37 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T07:03:27 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-04T07:05:58 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-04T07:07:01 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T07:10:47 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.27.89.21] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-04T07:11:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T07:13:19 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T07:18:33 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T07:32:27 < lorenzo> damn I have to give a presentation in a company with this laptop 2016-03-04T07:32:36 < lorenzo> time to remove all xhamster links in the bookmarks 2016-03-04T07:33:06 < lorenzo> I actually have an account on xhamster, it's just that I can't bother logging in and saving the video in favourites while I'm *busy* with myself 2016-03-04T07:33:07 < upgrdman> or just create a new login account? 2016-03-04T07:39:14 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-04T07:44:28 < nikomo> I got a Nucleo board last week but I haven't had time to touch it yet - I had people keep telling me to just grab libopencm3 and use that, to get started, anyone have differing/supporting opinions? 2016-03-04T07:46:30 < lorenzo> nikomo: libopencm3, system workbench, rowley, keil, mbed 2016-03-04T07:46:40 < lorenzo> figure out what you're more comfortable with and use it 2016-03-04T07:50:59 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T08:00:41 < dongs> which nucleo? 2016-03-04T08:03:43 < nikomo> F411 2016-03-04T08:04:28 < nikomo> I need to finish an AVR thing first, but I reckon I'll have some alone time with the Nucleo later 2016-03-04T08:16:00 < ReadError> systemworkbench is so bad 2016-03-04T08:16:20 < ReadError> shift+del 30 mins after installing 2016-03-04T08:19:19 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T08:20:02 < nikomo> I mainly use my extremely low-end laptop for µc work, so something that's just based on gnu make + gcc is basically ideal, sublime text fits into that nicely 2016-03-04T08:21:20 < jpa-> i like developing on top of chibios (also makefile based) 2016-03-04T08:24:50 < ReadError> I dont like eclipse exactly, but I like the debugging tools 2016-03-04T08:25:32 < dongs> low-end laptop, good luck 2016-03-04T08:25:40 < dongs> maybe next you'll be compiling code on fgtberrypi 2016-03-04T08:26:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-7186e055.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T08:39:56 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-04T08:44:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-7186e055.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-04T08:46:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T08:46:36 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T08:50:53 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T08:53:13 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-04T08:55:26 < ReadError> the debugging stuff is nice in keil too but the text editor kinda sux 2016-03-04T08:55:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T08:57:08 < ReadError> after using the eclipse setup for a while i prefer it 2016-03-04T09:00:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:03:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:08:47 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-144.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:14:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:19:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:23:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:32:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.43] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:34:16 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:34:59 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:35:24 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:37:46 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:37:46 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:41:12 < PeterM> dongs, doing much today? or just bloggin? 2016-03-04T09:41:33 < dongs> bloggin as usual 2016-03-04T09:41:33 < dongs> sup 2016-03-04T09:41:49 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:42:17 < dongs> found out why alticock was placing all new components with silk on BOTTOM layer, not mirrored for designator 2016-03-04T09:42:31 < dongs> somehow i managed to save a 'default' config wiht that under dxp->prefs->pcb->dfeaults or someshit 2016-03-04T09:42:42 < PeterM> fukkin lol 2016-03-04T09:43:05 < dongs> just gonna move to orcad, cant stand this newb shit 2016-03-04T09:43:46 < PeterM> i havent had any real issues with altium lately, its been behavin well for me - except when i moved from 14.something to 16.whatever and i accidentally deleted my libraries - goodthing i back up 2016-03-04T09:44:19 < dongs> did you ekep them in c:\program files or somethin 2016-03-04T09:44:31 < dongs> all my libs are on my work drive, separated and a bunch of projects back them up on save anyway 2016-03-04T09:44:35 < dongs> so i can get stuff back fairly easily 2016-03-04T09:44:41 < PeterM> nah users>docs>altium > ad14>libs 2016-03-04T09:44:45 < dongs> oh that shit 2016-03-04T09:44:47 < dongs> eyuah fuck that 2016-03-04T09:45:03 < dongs> i dont even trust my C: to keep data safe so i dont use anything under \mydocs for anything serious 2016-03-04T09:45:42 < dongs> oih 2016-03-04T09:45:45 < dongs> 16.0.8 just came out 2016-03-04T09:45:51 < dongs> i JUST checked yesterday nad there was nothin 2016-03-04T09:45:58 < dongs> lots of fixes, ncie 2016-03-04T09:47:11 < PeterM> yeah i just regularly back up my shit so, no biggie, was jsut confused until i realized 2016-03-04T09:47:22 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T09:48:25 < dongs> 9638 "Access Violation" crash does not happens while accessing Tool menu on WindowsXP 2016-03-04T09:48:28 < dongs> thanks! 2016-03-04T09:48:32 < dongs> who the fuck still runs this on xp 2016-03-04T09:48:45 < dongs> 9646 Octopart links are now less aggressive in the UI. 2016-03-04T09:49:15 < dongs> 10832 Altium Designer no longer asks for repour confirmation, after modifying a polygon pour (BC:5936) 2016-03-04T09:49:17 < PeterM> https://youtu.be/dPxeCSh4jTQ?t=13 lolled 2016-03-04T09:49:39 < dongs> .,.. 2016-03-04T09:49:40 < dongs> why 2016-03-04T09:49:46 < PeterM> 10832 about fuckign time 2016-03-04T09:50:48 < PeterM> why lolled or why even bother makin a power hacksaw or both? 2016-03-04T09:50:56 < dongs> ya why making hacksaw 2016-03-04T09:50:59 < dongs> isnt there.. proper tools for this 2016-03-04T09:51:09 < PeterM> yeah, no idea why 2016-03-04T09:51:17 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-04T09:51:27 < PeterM> jsut get a fuckin bandsaw 2016-03-04T09:55:33 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-03-04T09:55:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T09:55:47 < PeterM> no, i pay a subscription because im not a jew 2016-03-04T09:56:40 < PeterM> i think when i bought mine it was liek $2600, and the sub was like $800p/a 2016-03-04T09:57:04 < PeterM> now the sub is liek $1800 2016-03-04T09:57:54 < PeterM> if you wanna pirate it like a jew, readerror always shits on about it 2016-03-04T09:58:52 < ReadError> if i actually made money using it, I would buy it 2016-03-04T09:58:53 < PeterM> do you have a big nose to take advantage of all the FREE air? 2016-03-04T09:59:48 < PeterM> and both are good for smellion when the bloke down the road has some snags on the barbie 2016-03-04T10:01:11 < PeterM> tomorrow morning, snags, onion, sauce, more sauce and some shit tools 2016-03-04T10:02:41 < PeterM> good thing is they will take it back if its fucked with pretty much no explanation 2016-03-04T10:02:49 < dongs> < ReadError> if i actually made money using it, I would buy it 2016-03-04T10:02:51 < dongs> lol 2016-03-04T10:02:54 < dongs> says for-profit cloner 2016-03-04T10:04:50 < PeterM> nah cloneerror wastes all his clone cash on oshfaarrrkkk pcbs 2016-03-04T10:06:59 < dongs> oh fucksake 2016-03-04T10:07:07 < dongs> now that I need to test MHL 2016-03-04T10:07:10 < dongs> i dont have a single phone wiht it 2016-03-04T10:07:19 < dongs> fucking G2 is slimport trash 2016-03-04T10:07:31 < dongs> S6 doesnt even ahve any kinda mhl shit they want to use some samdung wifi crap 2016-03-04T10:07:37 < dongs> dixus5 is slimport 2016-03-04T10:07:38 < PeterM> mhl? thats the hdmi in the usbport thingo isnt it? 2016-03-04T10:07:45 < dongs> pertty sure this motorola trash doesnt have it either 2016-03-04T10:07:46 < dongs> checkingf 2016-03-04T10:07:48 < ReadError> PeterM ya osh is pretty expensive 2016-03-04T10:07:48 < dongs> PeterM: yea 2016-03-04T10:08:31 < dongs> k no mhl there either 2016-03-04T10:08:32 < dongs> uhhh 2016-03-04T10:09:01 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-04T10:09:33 < dongs> hm maybe some shitty tablet 2016-03-04T10:09:36 < PeterM> Ok, off to mung on some grub 2016-03-04T10:10:11 < dongs> The AT100, AT200, AT270, AT300 and AT300SE tablets *do not* support Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL). 2016-03-04T10:10:14 < dongs> \nope. 2016-03-04T10:10:27 < dongs> analog shitware? 2016-03-04T10:11:41 < dongs> ~asus shit i haev doenst have it either 2016-03-04T10:11:45 < dongs> ... 2016-03-04T10:13:48 < dongs> thats input 2016-03-04T10:13:54 < dongs> thats wat i need to test 2016-03-04T10:15:09 < dongs> HTC M8 has it, and I gave that away 2016-03-04T10:15:12 < dongs> ffff 2016-03-04T10:22:07 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-04T10:23:29 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T10:26:43 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T10:29:49 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T10:38:31 < dongs> found htc desire. no mhl there either 2016-03-04T10:40:06 < zyp> haha 2016-03-04T10:40:18 < zyp> do people actually use that shit? 2016-03-04T10:40:24 < dongs> hm not on dixus 7 either 2016-03-04T10:40:25 < dongs> omg 2016-03-04T10:40:32 < dongs> zyp, no idea. but i gotta make sure it works 2016-03-04T10:41:03 < zyp> I bought some shitty slimport to hdmi cable some time for my nexus 4 2016-03-04T10:41:07 < dongs> right 2016-03-04T10:41:09 < dongs> thats not evne mhl 2016-03-04T10:41:12 < dongs> thats shit *nobody* uses 2016-03-04T10:41:21 < zyp> I tried it once to check that it worked and never touched it since 2016-03-04T10:41:27 < dongs> what did it do? 2016-03-04T10:41:32 < dongs> just mirror screen to tv? 2016-03-04T10:41:33 < zyp> well, it worked 2016-03-04T10:41:35 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-04T10:41:40 < dongs> vertically? 2016-03-04T10:41:50 < zyp> depends on the orientation 2016-03-04T10:41:59 < zyp> I think it rotated to match phone orientation 2016-03-04T10:42:07 < dongs> hmpf 2016-03-04T10:42:37 < zyp> but it's pretty dumb either way 2016-03-04T10:42:58 < zyp> android can send screen wirelessly to chromecast now, works just as good without any dumb cables 2016-03-04T10:43:20 < dongs> pals xperia M2 no mhl either 2016-03-04T10:43:23 < dongs> argh 2016-03-04T10:43:30 < zyp> haha 2016-03-04T10:43:45 < zyp> I thought mhl were the winner of mhl vs slimport 2016-03-04T10:43:51 < dongs> yea no shit 2016-03-04T10:43:55 < dongs> well, i have all this ancient shit 2016-03-04T10:43:57 < zyp> but apparently you only got slimport devices 2016-03-04T10:44:02 < dongs> it doesnt have any kinda port shit at all 2016-03-04T10:44:10 < dongs> yeah dixus5/7 is the only thing I got with slimport 2016-03-04T10:44:13 < dongs> all otehr trahs is just nothign 2016-03-04T10:44:39 < zyp> hmm, I wonder what nexus 5x has, usb-c renders all the old cables useless anyway 2016-03-04T10:44:49 < dongs> displayport i guess? 2016-03-04T10:45:04 < dongs> buy something with FIREFOX OS 2016-03-04T10:45:06 < zyp> maybe 2016-03-04T10:45:08 < dongs> so it's dead on arrival 2016-03-04T10:45:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-04T10:45:30 < zyp> the usb-c connector got four differential lanes, so it could potentially run full displayport 2016-03-04T10:45:46 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T10:45:53 < dongs> zyp, it does, its one of the alternate mode specs 2016-03-04T10:46:11 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-04T10:46:11 < dongs> but all the fucking cunts who put usb-c in desktops use some shitty assmedia usb3 chipset 2016-03-04T10:46:17 < zyp> haha 2016-03-04T10:46:20 < dongs> which doesnt support displayport alternate mode on it. 2016-03-04T10:46:26 < zyp> are there usb-c in desktops yet? 2016-03-04T10:46:29 < dongs> sure 2016-03-04T10:46:31 < dongs> any new board 2016-03-04T10:46:34 < dongs> since like a year ago 2016-03-04T10:46:38 < zyp> huh, cool 2016-03-04T10:46:40 < dongs> z97 or wahtever chipset 2016-03-04T10:47:02 < dongs> or z99 , whatever just came out wiht kikelake a year ago 2016-03-04T10:47:40 < dongs> whats weird is intel southbridge has usb3.1/wahtevcer support so it can be connected to usb-c directly 2016-03-04T10:47:46 < dongs> but idiots still use extenral chip, no idea why 2016-03-04T10:47:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T10:48:07 < dongs> nope 2016-03-04T10:48:10 < dongs> wasting southbridge pcie lanes 2016-03-04T10:48:48 < dongs> lol. 2016-03-04T10:48:52 < zyp> looks like nexus 5x doesn't support any alternate modes 2016-03-04T10:49:03 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.154.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T10:49:10 < zyp> "just use chromecast" 2016-03-04T10:49:16 < dongs> worthless. 2016-03-04T10:49:19 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T10:49:20 < dongs> what happeend to lag? 2016-03-04T10:50:23 < dongs> no i'm in israel 2016-03-04T10:50:38 < dongs> yes. 2016-03-04T10:51:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-04T10:51:16 < dongs> you can pay for my flight there 2016-03-04T10:51:52 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T10:53:11 < dongs> try * 15 2016-03-04T10:53:21 < dongs> and thats if I waste time lookin for cheap tix 2016-03-04T10:54:36 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T10:55:09 < dongs> i didnt know jellybean had the hold logo a few secs and it starts a game ething 2016-03-04T10:55:21 < dongs> i thought it was new with 5.something 2016-03-04T10:55:31 < dongs> beans now all over my screen 2016-03-04T10:55:34 < dongs> flying 2016-03-04T10:59:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-04T11:29:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-144.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-04T12:14:39 < dongs> As we continue to roll out the CircuitMaker Project of the Month competition, we have partnered with our friends at Seeed Fusion PCB for the month of March. Any project in the CircuitMaker workspace which has it’s page finished in the month of March is eligible to win. 2016-03-04T12:14:43 < dongs> more circuitcocok spam 2016-03-04T12:17:45 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-04T12:19:11 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T12:23:35 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T12:31:29 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T12:31:47 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-04T12:31:48 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-03-04T12:51:46 < dongs> dongggggggggggggggs 2016-03-04T12:52:40 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Microcontroller/Hand-soldering-chips-for-hook/ 2016-03-04T12:52:57 < Sync_> wad 2016-03-04T12:56:39 < dongs> god damn 2016-03-04T12:56:42 < dongs> some lunix pro 2016-03-04T12:56:58 < dongs> ran something to change EVERY FILE premission to rwxrwxrwx on / 2016-03-04T12:57:01 < dongs> lol. 2016-03-04T12:57:04 < dongs> good thing its a vm 2016-03-04T12:57:38 < Sync_> wat 2016-03-04T13:06:08 < dongs> found the retard 2016-03-04T13:06:20 < dongs> some php shithead chmod everything to 777 2016-03-04T13:06:31 < dongs> fuck lunix 2016-03-04T13:06:43 < ReadError> if its rhel theres a way to restore perms 2016-03-04T13:06:50 < dongs> thats waht I fucking did 2016-03-04T13:06:53 < ReadError> or any rpm based distro 2016-03-04T13:07:03 < dongs> init=/bin/sh and then waited for 10 minutes for it to fix the shit 2016-03-04T13:07:22 < ReadError> # for p in $(rpm -qa); do rpm --setperms $p; done 2016-03-04T13:07:22 < ReadError> # for p in $(rpm -qa); do rpm --setugids $p; done 2016-03-04T13:07:31 < dongs> that sorta requires being able to login as root 2016-03-04T13:10:33 < jpa-> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Article_Consisting_of_50,000_Cardboard_Boxes_More_or_Less,_Each_Containing_One_Pair_of_Clacker_Balls this is somehow so 100% USA 2016-03-04T13:22:08 < PeterM> jesus fuckign christ what really trhe actual fuck 2016-03-04T13:25:25 < PeterM> been listening to this song a shitload lately, its... funky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4 2016-03-04T13:27:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-144.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T13:30:49 < zyp> PeterM, haha, me too 2016-03-04T13:33:58 < karlp> silly electrofunk all sounds hte same to me after a while :) 2016-03-04T13:34:01 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T13:35:06 < karlp> girlfriend's listening to this stuff all the time now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco4z98nIQY 2016-03-04T13:58:26 < zyp> http://sexologist.tumblr.com/post/140247691084/new-kid-safe-search-engine-blocks-childrens 2016-03-04T13:58:30 < zyp> retweeting 2016-03-04T13:59:29 < jpa-> i was wondering what is a "kid safe engine block".. some kind of toy for mechanics 2016-03-04T14:00:07 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-04T14:00:19 < zyp> :) 2016-03-04T14:07:52 < MightyPork> has anyone tried running Ncurses through USART? Is it even possible? 2016-03-04T14:09:17 < karlp> why wouldn't it be? 2016-03-04T14:09:31 < karlp> I seem to recall seeing someone's demo of it, can't remember 2016-03-04T14:09:40 < karlp> maybe chuckmcmanis? 2016-03-04T14:10:50 < BrainDamage> consider that all terminals in lunix are emulating ancient teletypes from 50 years ago 2016-03-04T14:11:18 < BrainDamage> so yes, it's all a serial protocol 2016-03-04T14:11:37 < MightyPork> just wondering if it's worth trying, having a "TUI" sounds much easier and better than some garbage java front-end 2016-03-04T14:12:05 < MightyPork> also 100% portable :D 2016-03-04T14:15:01 < karlp> also 100% bloat to handle 50 years of terminal quirks and bugs. 2016-03-04T14:15:24 < karlp> a binary api that lets you build multiple UIs is probably going to be nicer down the road :) 2016-03-04T14:16:24 < BrainDamage> the tty protocol is pretty terrible 2016-03-04T14:16:30 < MightyPork> the main benefit for me is no need for client SW 2016-03-04T14:16:36 < 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HTTP server like interface and use browser on the other end 2016-03-04T14:29:50 < karlp> cdc-net and a webserver? 2016-03-04T14:29:58 < karlp> what should go into usb class for that? 2016-03-04T14:31:12 < jpa-> something that does not need messing up the whole machine's networking 2016-03-04T14:31:55 < jpa-> if you dhcp a new dns, everything else breaks; if you don't, you need hardcoded ip and no way to use two devices at once 2016-03-04T14:32:44 < jpa-> browsers should have http://com1/ ;) 2016-03-04T14:33:01 < BrainDamage> mdns would work 2016-03-04T14:33:11 < BrainDamage> howrever not many things support it 2016-03-04T14:33:15 < karlp> if anyone understood mdns 2016-03-04T14:33:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T14:33:22 < karlp> so much promise, so much fail and unimplemented 2016-03-04T14:33:28 < karlp> same with upnp 2016-03-04T14:34:14 < BrainDamage> it doesn't help that windows to my knowledge doesn't provide a stack on its own 2016-03-04T14:34:31 < BrainDamage> you need to explicitly install apple's 2016-03-04T14:34:52 < karlp> yeah, upnp and mdns are same same but not at all 2016-03-04T14:35:09 < karlp> blah, too much fail 2016-03-04T14:47:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-04T14:53:32 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T14:56:28 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-04T15:06:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T15:24:07 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T15:26:14 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-03-04T15:30:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.62] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-04T15:38:35 < trepidacious> upnp is much easier to implement than mdns 2016-03-04T15:38:47 < trepidacious> If you stick to the useful bit (announcing and discovering devices) 2016-03-04T15:40:21 < 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##stm32 2016-03-04T17:16:30 < emeb> nope nope nope nope 2016-03-04T17:17:37 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-04T17:19:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T17:20:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-04T17:22:02 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/908-24100/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuLQf%252bEuFsOrh35k6jkGdFnb2yZY6BNd8U%3d changing from SMA to mmcx 2016-03-04T17:25:02 < emeb> looks like the F7 nucleos are now shipping @ DK 2016-03-04T17:30:35 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T17:30:36 < Laurenceb_> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-small-hands-marco-rubio/index.html 2016-03-04T17:42:59 < dongs> kikemir, you should get 10 of them 2016-03-04T17:44:22 < kakimir> i think I buy 10 ebay ones 2016-03-04T17:44:29 < kakimir> for.. 8eur or so 2016-03-04T17:44:29 -!- Activate_for_moa 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just making up facts 2016-03-04T17:58:48 < zyp> haven't done much stuff where I need to care about leakage 2016-03-04T17:59:28 < dongs> zyp, your parts shipped 2016-03-04T17:59:34 < zyp> cool 2016-03-04T17:59:42 < kakimir> make it all up 2016-03-04T18:00:02 < jpa-> i've done stuff where i care about leakage, but i just haven't cared about it 2016-03-04T18:01:01 < kakimir> when there is high impendance line you need to think about it 2016-03-04T18:02:19 < zyp> nah, just add more SMAs 2016-03-04T18:03:25 < jpa-> you can connect the pcb with the fet to the pcb with the high impedance line with smas, so you can easily throw them both away 2016-03-04T18:07:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.43] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T18:07:34 < kakimir> is there place where you can order copper based PCB? 2016-03-04T18:09:12 < jpa-> as opposed to sma based? 2016-03-04T18:09:15 < kakimir> how do I google this 2016-03-04T18:09:22 < jpa-> mcpcb? 2016-03-04T18:09:56 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Small-DAC-Digital-Analog-Converter-9841678/ 2016-03-04T18:09:59 < dongs> haha 2016-03-04T18:10:00 < dongs> > mfi certified 2016-03-04T18:10:14 < Sync_> gg 2016-03-04T18:10:25 < kakimir> o/ think jpa 2016-03-04T18:10:27 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-37-158-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-04T18:10:38 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T18:10:57 < jpa-> think different, think jpa? 2016-03-04T18:11:22 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Microcontroller/Hand-soldering-chips-for-hook/ i guess neither of those people can read that it says "in seatle" 2016-03-04T18:11:58 < kakimir> :D 2016-03-04T18:12:02 < kakimir> thanks jpa 2016-03-04T18:13:13 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-04T18:23:22 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@static-184.mi.telnet.wide-net.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T18:25:51 < kakimir> http://www.epectec.com/images/EXTREME-copper-circuit-boards.jpg propper copper 2016-03-04T18:25:59 < kakimir> I just wonder 2016-03-04T18:26:36 < kakimir> those must be inserts? 2016-03-04T18:26:55 < kakimir> soldered or glued smohow 2016-03-04T18:27:08 < dongs> no they just deposited 1kg of copper on each pad 2016-03-04T18:27:10 < dongs> over and over 2016-03-04T18:27:29 < kakimir> http://www.epectec.com/images/EXTREME-copper.jpg 2016-03-04T18:28:00 < kakimir> they use additive method to make such boards? 2016-03-04T18:28:22 < kakimir> instead of removal method? 2016-03-04T18:30:54 < Sync_> of course 2016-03-04T18:32:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T18:36:00 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-04T18:36:34 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/001/727/293/ff01399100e79e9e6fd648aa7139048c_original.jpg?v=1394405836&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=76b9d8691b05bc333aac35903e418c41 2016-03-04T18:36:37 < dongs> is that kikecad 2016-03-04T18:37:49 < Sync_> does not look like it 2016-03-04T18:38:00 < dongs> what else has such nasty colorscheme 2016-03-04T18:38:03 < dongs> oh, maybe gEDA 2016-03-04T18:38:20 < dongs> https://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/bike-lights/schematics.png 2016-03-04T18:38:21 < dongs> yes 2016-03-04T18:39:05 < dongs> http://sbc.twibright.com/schematics/cpu.png who the fuck thought dark blue on black is a good c olor 2016-03-04T18:39:08 < dongs> for traaces???? 2016-03-04T18:40:04 < dongs> http://images.twibright.com/tns/1488.html heh 1488 2016-03-04T18:40:26 < kakimir> you need to rest soon dongs uncle 2016-03-04T18:40:42 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T18:43:39 < kakimir> tommorow I have jobs 2016-03-04T18:43:47 < 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to troll just using my CV 2016-03-04T19:20:45 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kuka-Roboter-Welding-Robot-Arm-No-Controller-INV-18660/231650105238 2016-03-04T19:21:15 < Laurenceb_> lol no controller 2016-03-04T19:21:31 < ReadError> "NO CANADIANS." 2016-03-04T19:21:42 < Laurenceb_> well thats taken as given 2016-03-04T19:22:06 < ReadError> i bet lunixcnc could run it 2016-03-04T19:22:30 < Laurenceb_> even my dad hated Trudeau 2016-03-04T19:22:31 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.59.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T19:22:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-04T19:22:37 < Laurenceb_> *hates 2016-03-04T19:22:49 < ReadError> thats so random 2016-03-04T19:23:00 < Laurenceb_> and he is basically Bernie Sanders 2016-03-04T19:23:18 < ReadError> your dad is? 2016-03-04T19:23:25 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-04T19:33:54 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-04T19:34:30 -!- oz4ga 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for reqest on the fcc, it has quite a bit redacted crap, it uses a weird modulation 2016-03-04T20:43:18 < BrainDamage> 2GHz bandwith QPSK 2016-03-04T20:44:30 < BrainDamage> i talked with few friends and our conclusion was that it'd be a backhaul point to point system for "space stuff" 2016-03-04T20:44:42 < BrainDamage> esp due to the 5GHz low bandwith ranging signal 2016-03-04T20:44:56 < BrainDamage> either LEO or their lunatic balloon project 2016-03-04T20:45:24 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-04T20:45:25 < BrainDamage> mostly due to high fade margin due to low bits/symbol and th simplicity of the electronics 2016-03-04T20:49:58 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-04T20:53:48 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-04T20:54:14 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.228.40] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-04T20:54:46 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-04T20:55:16 < Sync_> BrainDamage: that 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documentation on how to implement Custom HID with STM32F0x2_USB-FS-Device_Lib V1.0.0 ? 2016-03-04T23:45:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-147.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-04T23:58:08 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sat Mar 05 2016 2016-03-05T00:09:31 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-05T00:11:12 < trepidacious> karlp: For stuff I've done it's made sense to have my own upnp detection in an application. I guess mDNS is nice for using something.local addresses 2016-03-05T00:11:28 < trepidacious> it's still ridiculously complicated for what it does though 2016-03-05T00:13:44 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-05T00:32:40 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T00:32:50 < MightyPork> hello, trying to debug hard fault 2016-03-05T00:32:54 < MightyPork> any way to recover from it? 2016-03-05T00:33:08 < MightyPork> or at least do something. Tried using USART but it just locks up it seems 2016-03-05T00:37:56 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-03-05T00:48:49 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFuR97YcSLM mathspam 2016-03-05T00:55:31 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T01:21:03 < MightyPork> nvm my question. I uh.. forgot to link a file overriding the newlib stubs & tried to use them. 2016-03-05T01:23:00 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-05T01:32:47 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-9-35.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-05T01:37:21 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-9-35.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T02:08:55 < dongs> sup pros 2016-03-05T02:15:21 < dongs> wheres todays spacex launch video 2016-03-05T02:15:22 < dongs> i dont see it 2016-03-05T02:15:25 < dongs> but tehy're twatting 2016-03-05T02:16:53 < MightyPork> dongs its over 2016-03-05T02:16:57 < MightyPork> went good 2016-03-05T02:17:21 < MightyPork> but 1st stage probably crashed 2016-03-05T02:17:28 < dongs> yoiu mean the landing? 2016-03-05T02:17:31 < MightyPork> yea 2016-03-05T02:17:47 < MightyPork> looked like it's going quite a bit off, then the stream cut off 2016-03-05T02:17:56 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T02:18:05 < MightyPork> satellite is fine 2016-03-05T02:18:20 < dongs> rite 2016-03-05T02:18:53 < dongs> looks like someone twatted it crashed 2016-03-05T02:25:16 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-05T02:37:26 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-05T02:42:41 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:a8d6:c5ea:7159:ec8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T02:43:58 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T03:00:47 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T03:04:01 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-05T03:10:51 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-05T03:17:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T03:20:57 < MightyPork> confirmed that it blew up on landing 2016-03-05T03:32:18 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T03:39:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T03:45:16 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T03:51:29 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T03:59:28 -!- perillamint^fall [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Quit: Quit - Powered by ZNC] 2016-03-05T03:59:44 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T04:02:14 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T04:11:03 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-05T04:13:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-05T04:14:42 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Quit: Quit - Powered by ZNC] 2016-03-05T04:17:00 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T04:17:32 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.47] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-05T04:25:52 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-05T04:26:18 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1457137197342.jpg 2016-03-05T04:26:21 < Laurenceb_> full 8chan 2016-03-05T04:38:22 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czakhleewbksonis] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-05T04:49:53 < Laurenceb_> nasty 2016-03-05T04:50:04 < Laurenceb_> cat food and cats on kitchen worktop 2016-03-05T04:50:37 < Laurenceb_> wonder how many diseases you could catch 2016-03-05T04:50:53 < Laurenceb_> I just realised you can catch prion diseases off pet food 2016-03-05T04:50:54 < Laurenceb_> fun 2016-03-05T05:01:11 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-149-101-61.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T05:24:12 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-05T05:55:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T05:55:12 < upgrdman> anyone here used can? 2016-03-05T05:55:28 < dongs> i have a microchip canbus analyzser thingy. 2016-03-05T05:55:49 < upgrdman> for a quick test, if the mcu is just transmitting a message, you should see a waveform on a oscope, even with nothing listening to the can bus, right? 2016-03-05T05:56:46 < upgrdman> i would expect an error due to a missing ACK or something like that, but you should see canh/canl moving right? 2016-03-05T06:18:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-05T06:33:47 < dongs> i think so 2016-03-05T06:33:58 < dongs> i recall running one of the can shits samples from sterphiph 2016-03-05T06:34:09 < dongs> and there was constant moving but I forgot if that was the sample transmitting or waet 2016-03-05T06:34:18 < dongs> been a few months sine i last dicked with it 2016-03-05T06:34:22 < dongs> but it was pretty stragithforward to setuip 2016-03-05T06:35:01 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.59.248] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-05T06:36:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T06:41:56 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-05T06:43:31 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T07:15:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-05T07:16:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T07:25:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T07:31:50 < kakimir> hello sexuals 2016-03-05T07:32:15 < upgrdman> bukkakimir: what have you been up to recently? 2016-03-05T07:32:27 < kakimir> commuting to jobs 2016-03-05T07:32:29 < kakimir> atm. 2016-03-05T07:36:14 < kakimir> 7:36 here so I'm a bit late 2016-03-05T07:49:48 < kakimir> 80km commuting distance 2016-03-05T07:51:26 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T08:00:03 < ReadError> on the weekend? 2016-03-05T08:17:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.] 2016-03-05T08:18:40 -!- jd [~zauslande@66.53.80.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T08:19:08 -!- jd is now known as Guest38180 2016-03-05T08:19:21 -!- Guest38180 [~zauslande@66.53.80.197] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-05T08:21:20 -!- zauslander [~zauslande@66.53.80.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T08:22:01 -!- zauslander [~zauslande@66.53.80.197] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-05T08:22:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T08:24:36 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-05T08:55:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T08:57:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-05T08:57:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.132] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T09:04:42 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-05T09:05:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T09:22:24 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T09:23:34 < upgrdman> limits.h has defines for like max_int or whatever. is there an equiv for the uint32_t and other types? 2016-03-05T09:25:15 < upgrdman> o nm, they're in stdint.h 2016-03-05T09:42:06 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-05T09:56:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T09:59:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T10:03:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-72ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T10:16:55 < dekar> There's UINT32_MAX etc. 2016-03-05T10:25:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-72ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T10:29:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.248] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-05T10:30:44 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aegtrihqlgiwhljw] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T10:34:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T10:34:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T10:47:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-05T11:11:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T11:18:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T11:18:20 < dongs> MAX_INT 2016-03-05T11:28:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-05T11:39:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T11:40:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T11:41:06 -!- neuro_sys [neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-05T11:41:13 -!- neuro_sys [neurosys@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe56:2d37] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T11:41:36 -!- neuro_sys is now known as Guest73699 2016-03-05T11:43:38 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T11:58:45 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:05:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-05T12:09:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:09:52 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:14:05 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-05T12:19:21 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:20:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:22:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:24:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:25:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T12:30:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T12:38:22 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aegtrihqlgiwhljw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-05T13:18:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T13:28:19 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-05T13:47:51 < mitrax> hey, i assume there's no built-in recovery mechanism to reset the I2C bus if a device is stuck and maintains SDA low? on other mcus i used to set the I2C pins as gpio temporarily and cycle the clock until SDA goes high, i take it's it's no different on STM32? 2016-03-05T13:49:08 < jpa-> yeah, i've done the same 2016-03-05T13:49:37 < jpa-> on STM32 you have the bonus that not only you can get slave to hang, you can also make the STM32 I2C peripheral to hang 2016-03-05T13:49:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-72ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T13:51:13 < mitrax> jpa-: really? bleh 2016-03-05T13:51:25 < mitrax> jpa-: when does that happen? 2016-03-05T13:51:34 < jpa-> errata gives some ideas 2016-03-05T13:51:35 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T13:52:11 < dongs> mitrax: thats wat i do 2016-03-05T13:52:27 < dongs> sent to OD and clock out 2016-03-05T13:54:49 < mitrax> dongs: OD? 2016-03-05T13:55:01 < jpa-> "set to open drain" 2016-03-05T13:55:20 < mitrax> oh ok 2016-03-05T13:57:48 < mitrax> thanks :) 2016-03-05T13:57:58 < dongs> you kinda want to have i2c pins as OD. 2016-03-05T13:58:07 < dongs> even if youre manually dicking them 2016-03-05T13:58:21 < jpa-> otherwise the slave will overdose 2016-03-05T14:13:53 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-72ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T14:13:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-72ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-05T14:19:55 < ReadError> dongs is your vape project vaporizing drugs yet? 2016-03-05T14:21:32 < PeterM> ReadError, is your clone project cloneing cloners yet? 2016-03-05T14:21:58 < ReadError> no but that would be cool 2016-03-05T14:22:35 < ReadError> funny dongs keeps going on with this clone thing, I am not a cloner, he is though 2016-03-05T14:31:34 < PeterM> cloning is fine, provided oyu innovate in oyur cloning 2016-03-05T14:31:56 < ReadError> damn way to high, only 30 mins left at work 2016-03-05T14:34:04 < PeterM> what, is it 4:20 or something 2016-03-05T14:34:19 < ReadError> no 2016-03-05T14:35:11 < PeterM> what time is it there? i used to have multiple clocks set up but i forgot to do it when i installed w10 2016-03-05T14:35:28 < ReadError> 7:33am now 2016-03-05T14:38:21 < PeterM> ahh kk 2016-03-05T14:39:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-05T14:43:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T14:49:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T14:51:08 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-05T14:58:05 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwhdkiboquvyzkgs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T15:03:03 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T15:16:28 -!- Guest73699 is now known as neuro_sys 2016-03-05T15:16:32 -!- neuro_sys [neurosys@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe56:2d37] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-05T15:16:33 -!- neuro_sys [neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T15:18:04 < Lux> i wonder how long it'll take till that thing is avail: http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM132/CL2136/SC1934/PF261818 2016-03-05T15:18:27 < Lux> 2m ir tof for <2$ would be pretty nice 2016-03-05T15:18:37 < PeterM> where would you buy it though? 2016-03-05T15:19:21 < Lux> distributors, like all the other stuff 2016-03-05T15:19:31 < Lux> and yes, it'll be more there 2016-03-05T15:21:02 < PeterM> lux do you live in the US? 2016-03-05T15:21:23 < Lux> you mean export regulations ? 2016-03-05T15:21:28 < PeterM> yerp 2016-03-05T15:21:41 < Lux> you can get around that 2016-03-05T15:21:53 < Lux> it's not like i'm living in a 3rd world country 2016-03-05T15:22:35 < Lux> + why on earth is that shit export regulated ? 2016-03-05T15:23:16 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T15:24:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-05T15:24:39 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T15:26:33 < ReadError> hmm 2016-03-05T15:26:37 < ReadError> it says beyond 2m 2016-03-05T15:26:43 < ReadError> but how far beyond 2016-03-05T15:28:11 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.23] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T15:28:35 < ReadError> http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM132/CL2136/SC1934/PF260441 2016-03-05T15:28:37 < ReadError> this one is avail 2016-03-05T15:38:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T15:44:28 < Lux> ya, but 10cm isn't really useful for anything 2016-03-05T15:45:27 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-72ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T15:45:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-05T15:50:36 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-05T16:12:48 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-179-250-148.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T16:20:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:35c5:6903:f618:9bf4] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T16:22:09 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T16:23:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.68] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T16:31:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T16:39:17 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T16:45:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T16:51:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T17:29:40 -!- Jegeva [~Jegeva@94-225-160-208.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-05T17:30:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T17:33:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T17:36:46 < mitrax> in open drain mode, i'm confused as to what state pulls the pin towards ground, is it 0 or 1? 2016-03-05T17:36:58 < zyp> 0 of course 2016-03-05T17:37:16 < zyp> open drain mode just disables the high side transistor 2016-03-05T17:37:22 < zyp> so nothing happens when you output 1 2016-03-05T17:39:11 < mitrax> thanks 2016-03-05T17:46:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-05T17:47:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T17:54:41 < mitrax> zyp: when a pin is configured as open drain output can i still read its physical state? e.g pin state is set to 1 but the pin is pulled low by another device, will reading the pin report a 0 or do i have to configure it as input? 2016-03-05T17:55:54 < zyp> yes, that's one of the purposes of open drain 2016-03-05T17:56:24 < zyp> and also, even in normal push-pull mode you can always read the input even in output mode 2016-03-05T17:56:32 < zyp> it might not make much sense, but you can 2016-03-05T17:57:24 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE850EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-05T18:02:45 < mitrax> alright :) 2016-03-05T18:04:01 -!- Abhishek_ is now known as Abhishek_|afk 2016-03-05T18:04:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T18:06:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-05T18:09:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-05T18:12:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T18:13:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.132] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T18:35:39 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T18:51:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-05T19:01:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.167.105] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-05T19:10:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-05T19:12:19 < kakimir> work days over 2016-03-05T19:14:48 < kakimir> beer and rc glider wonderings 2016-03-05T19:15:15 < kakimir> I plan to utilize extra-over size prop for slow glider 2016-03-05T19:16:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.100] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T19:16:19 < kakimir> then drive it with limited throttle setting so currents and power stay very low 2016-03-05T19:16:26 < kakimir> and rpm 2016-03-05T19:17:56 < kakimir> under 100W for 1kg glider 2016-03-05T19:19:17 < kakimir> prop calc gave good numbers for 75W axle power 2016-03-05T19:19:46 < kakimir> 0.6kg thrust and 40kmh air speed 2016-03-05T19:20:47 < kakimir> propeller air speed propably 2016-03-05T19:25:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T19:34:35 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-05T19:36:57 < kakimir> I wonder if I could extend bldc motor axle to place big dimension motor inside wider part of fuselage to both for optimal weight distribution and also not having big chunk sticking out in the front 2016-03-05T19:37:13 < kakimir> maybe some rubber hose connection 2016-03-05T19:37:35 < kakimir> to seperate axle - bearing system 2016-03-05T19:53:50 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-05T19:54:32 < kakimir> motor has almost 50mm axle so easiest is to lathe a little prop adapter with sleeve for bearing 2016-03-05T20:10:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-05T20:12:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T20:22:11 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T20:28:22 -!- Abhishek_|afk [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwhdkiboquvyzkgs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-05T20:50:45 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T20:57:35 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T21:33:19 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:a146:ac26:5126:f24f] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T21:33:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-05T21:52:21 < kakimir> sma footprint is over 400% compared to mmcx footprint in area 2016-03-05T21:54:34 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T21:56:53 -!- serserar [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T22:13:59 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-05T22:14:49 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T22:16:07 -!- julius [~julius@78.46.191.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-05T22:16:13 < julius> hi 2016-03-05T22:19:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-05T22:19:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-05T22:22:30 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: sounds fun, going for long flight time? 2016-03-05T22:22:35 < julius> any idea if this board: http://de.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-arduino/32478120209.html works with openocd or stlink? 2016-03-05T22:23:14 < kakimir> hopefully long flight times yes 2016-03-05T22:25:56 < kakimir> it's not that good glider thought 2016-03-05T22:26:24 < kakimir> it's big and slow and doesn't have that good L/D 2016-03-05T22:27:00 < kakimir> but I need to test this big prop concept and then have some composite slow medium slow for it 2016-03-05T22:27:25 < Steffanx> with stlink AND openocd julius.. sure 2016-03-05T22:28:18 < Steffanx> the swd pins are on the 4 pin header 2016-03-05T22:30:20 < Laurenceb_> any plan for autopilot? 2016-03-05T22:30:36 < kakimir> no 2016-03-05T22:30:44 < kakimir> just to enjoy 2016-03-05T22:30:46 < Laurenceb_> :-( 2016-03-05T22:30:56 < Laurenceb_> I like this http://www.atlantiksolar.ethz.ch/ 2016-03-05T22:31:03 < Laurenceb_> but then I discovered how slow it is 2016-03-05T22:31:29 < kakimir> slow is good 2016-03-05T22:31:36 < Laurenceb_> not when its windy 2016-03-05T22:31:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRTfhkiAqPw 2016-03-05T22:32:12 < Laurenceb_> why do people have to use video format 2016-03-05T22:32:35 < Laurenceb_> Video Blogging is Embarrassing: one stupidly long example 2016-03-05T22:34:17 < Steffanx> I at least expected a video of how slow it actually is.. not some useless oop video. 2016-03-05T22:35:13 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: slow is efficient 2016-03-05T22:35:43 < Laurenceb_> until wind speed > flight speed 2016-03-05T22:35:50 < Laurenceb_> then its negatively efficient :P 2016-03-05T22:36:03 < kakimir> efficiency as staying in air 2016-03-05T22:36:05 < kakimir> long long 2016-03-05T22:37:16 < Laurenceb_> not when the project goal is to cross the atlantic 2016-03-05T22:38:20 < kakimir> stay in air robot plane / low orbit winged satellite would be nice 2016-03-05T22:38:30 < kakimir> solar shiet 2016-03-05T22:40:38 < Laurenceb_> the main issue is the batteries 2016-03-05T22:41:03 < kakimir> sure thing 2016-03-05T22:43:40 < kakimir> do you need to heat those? 2016-03-05T22:43:43 < kakimir> or cool? 2016-03-05T22:48:29 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-05T22:55:14 < Laurenceb_> the batteries? 2016-03-05T22:56:28 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-05T22:56:46 < kakimir> how high it would be flying.. 2016-03-05T22:57:09 < kakimir> is 30km possible for slow propeller plane? 2016-03-05T22:59:16 < kakimir> I think altitude is cheaper than batteries 2016-03-05T22:59:16 < Laurenceb_> dunno 2016-03-05T22:59:32 < Laurenceb_> you mean gain altitude and glide? 2016-03-05T22:59:40 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-05T22:59:44 < Laurenceb_> there isnt enough energy available like that 2016-03-05T23:00:00 < Laurenceb_> best li-ion is 1MJ/Kg 2016-03-05T23:00:22 < Laurenceb_> thats like 100km altitude 2016-03-05T23:00:57 < Laurenceb_> battery energy density is much greater than potential energy from altitude 2016-03-05T23:01:14 < kakimir> nice 2016-03-05T23:01:54 < kakimir> 100km altitude? 1kg? 2016-03-05T23:07:49 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-03-05T23:08:06 < Laurenceb_> 100,000m*9.81 = 981000J/Kg 2016-03-05T23:08:16 < Laurenceb_> about the same energy density as li-ion 2016-03-05T23:08:27 < kakimir> true 2016-03-05T23:08:30 < Laurenceb_> so its not worth trying to gain altitude to fly for longer 2016-03-05T23:08:34 < kakimir> just calculated 2016-03-05T23:08:59 < kakimir> okay but when you add 1kg battery to 1kg plane 2016-03-05T23:09:10 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:a146:ac26:5126:f24f] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-05T23:09:49 < kakimir> you need to add 0.5kg to support extra weight 2016-03-05T23:10:01 < kakimir> you have 2.5kg plane 2016-03-05T23:10:50 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-03-05T23:11:04 < kakimir> and battery have only 40km potential energy 2016-03-05T23:11:08 < Laurenceb_> ok maybe in real world cases gaining altitude helps a little 2016-03-05T23:11:16 < kakimir> also plane flies shittier 2016-03-05T23:11:44 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-05T23:11:58 < kakimir> but it's multioptimizing problems anyways 2016-03-05T23:12:08 < kakimir> you cant solve it in casual irc chat 2016-03-05T23:12:58 < kakimir> what is cloud limit height Laurenceb_ ? 2016-03-05T23:13:13 < Laurenceb_> about 12.5km 2016-03-05T23:35:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Mar 06 2016 2016-03-06T00:03:56 < owl-v-> is there any open-source pspice program? 2016-03-06T00:09:38 < artag> ngspice ? 2016-03-06T00:10:46 < artag> i think spice existed as open source before it was cool, didn't it ? 2016-03-06T00:29:59 < Steffanx> Something wrong with closed sores but free spice owl-v-? 2016-03-06T00:30:23 < owl-v-> i just don't want to pay $. that's all 2016-03-06T00:30:54 < owl-v-> Steffanx ^ 2016-03-06T00:33:04 < Sync_> then use ltspice 2016-03-06T00:33:35 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-06T00:38:50 < ColdKeyboard> Where can I find the documentation on how to use STM32F0x2_USB-FS-Device_Lib V1.0.0 custom HID ? 2016-03-06T00:39:13 < ColdKeyboard> I'm trying to send report to USB host via USBD_HID_SendReport(&USB_Device_dev, Send_Buffer, 2); but I guess I'm missing something :\ 2016-03-06T00:44:35 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T00:52:42 < artag> apparently theres also a cuspice (ngspice on CUDA) 2016-03-06T00:56:07 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-06T01:13:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-06T01:14:31 < Fleck> http://www.rogerclark.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/STM32Mini-300x300.jpg << using RTC on this module (f103), when placing finger close to crystals, RTC stops, at least, can I improve this somehow? 2016-03-06T01:17:18 < Fleck> *at least RTC IRQ stops 2016-03-06T01:18:48 < Sync_> don't put your finger on it 2016-03-06T01:19:17 < Fleck> yeah, that's one way :D I don't even touch it, just bring near and it dies 2016-03-06T01:19:31 < Sync_> yes, you capacitively influence it 2016-03-06T01:31:00 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T01:31:56 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-06T01:32:33 < ColdKeyboard> Fleck: If you have scope check the output of you RTC crystal. Maybe solder joints on GND pins are bad. :\ 2016-03-06T01:32:57 < ColdKeyboard> I have the same board but never had those issues with it. Quality of the board is however, very questionable. :) 2016-03-06T01:36:18 < Fleck> yeah, q. is not so good 2016-03-06T01:36:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T01:41:32 < ColdKeyboard> Maybe you could try buldging in regullar 32,768 crystall and properlly ground it and add caps if needed. 2016-03-06T01:45:03 -!- serserar [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-06T01:50:14 < Fleck> I have 4x of those modules, all have the same problem 2016-03-06T02:08:40 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:35c5:6903:f618:9bf4] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-06T02:14:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-06T02:14:58 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T02:26:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T02:26:41 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T02:42:32 -!- Lerg 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2016-03-06T06:28:43 < jadew> turns out new 22" and 23" monitors have a lower height :) 2016-03-06T06:29:30 < jadew> figured that maybe a 24" would fit properly 2016-03-06T06:29:46 < jadew> what's above that gets too wide for my desk 2016-03-06T06:31:28 < jadew> hmm, I can measure it from the pictures 2016-03-06T06:32:06 < dongs> what 2016-03-06T06:32:12 < dongs> dell 24" 4K is height adjustable 2016-03-06T06:32:24 < jadew> dongs, I mean the viewing area's height 2016-03-06T06:32:30 < dongs> the what 2016-03-06T06:32:38 < jadew> I need it to be as close to 300 mm in height as possible 2016-03-06T06:32:57 < jadew> so it aligns nicely with my other two monitors 2016-03-06T06:32:59 < dongs> yes, dell 4K is like 296mm 2016-03-06T06:33:09 < dongs> 298 actually 2016-03-06T06:33:10 < dongs> just measured. 2016-03-06T06:33:27 < jadew> that's great 2016-03-06T06:33:45 < dongs> intel just fucking became dead to me 2016-03-06T06:33:48 < dongs> my next processor is AMD 2016-03-06T06:33:58 < jadew> thanks, I'll check it out 2016-03-06T06:34:09 < dongs> i sent to intel.com to donwload IPDT_Installer_3.0.0.25.W_x86_3.0.0.25.W.MP_x64.exe 2016-03-06T06:34:16 < dongs> 1st red flag = exe wasn't signed 2016-03-06T06:34:24 < dongs> ok, seeing how its from intel.com i dont really care THAT much 2016-03-06T06:34:26 < dongs> ran it 2016-03-06T06:34:31 < jadew> virus 2016-03-06T06:34:40 < dongs> its a self-exetracting .zip that has setup.exe setup64.exe and setup.bat 2016-03-06T06:34:47 < jadew> lol 2016-03-06T06:34:55 < dongs> ok, noticed ,taht , killtasked setup, used unzip.exe to unpack 2016-03-06T06:35:01 < dongs> ran setup64.exe, still unsigned 2016-03-06T06:35:05 < dongs> ok, but intel, so hopefully legit 2016-03-06T06:35:14 < dongs> asks to isntall x64 redist for vs2008 or 2005 or soemshit 2016-03-06T06:35:19 < dongs> pretty sure i already had that, but wahtever. 2016-03-06T06:35:20 < dongs> installed 2016-03-06T06:35:31 < dongs> next shit: installation of intel processor bla bla tool REQUIRES A REBOOT 2016-03-06T06:35:33 < dongs> 2016? 2016-03-06T06:35:34 < dongs> reboot? 2016-03-06T06:35:39 < dongs> fuck right off 2016-03-06T06:35:46 < dongs> so, i went out and forgot i had that dialog on screen 2016-03-06T06:35:55 < dongs> come back, wake up monitor, see some yes/no shit 2016-03-06T06:36:02 < dongs> don't read it, click yes. 2016-03-06T06:36:07 < dongs> it initiates reboot sequence. 2016-03-06T06:36:12 < dongs> yeah so fuck intel. 2016-03-06T06:37:15 < dongs> yah except it closed all my work in progress 2016-03-06T06:37:27 < dongs> and why the fuck a shitty processor utility neeeds a reboot in 2016? 2016-03-06T06:37:33 < dongs> and why is shit off intel.com not signed 2016-03-06T06:37:56 < jadew> it needed a reboot because it installed something in your auto-start list 2016-03-06T06:38:03 < dongs> ur dumb 2016-03-06T06:38:27 < jadew> and the fact that your work got closed is something you have to take up with windows I guess 2016-03-06T06:38:36 < jadew> that doesn't sound right 2016-03-06T06:39:02 < jadew> unless the installer issued some comand that overrides the checks windows performs 2016-03-06T06:39:20 < dongs> im going to open a support case on this 2016-03-06T06:39:22 < dongs> and complain 2016-03-06T06:40:32 < dongs> should I write a post letter to intel corporate office 2016-03-06T06:41:13 < dongs> oh, cute 2016-03-06T06:41:15 < dongs> vmware got closed too 2016-03-06T06:41:17 < dongs> motherfuckers 2016-03-06T06:41:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-06T06:42:30 < dongs> great 2016-03-06T06:42:37 < dongs> in a way that I cant reaettach to running machiens 2016-03-06T06:42:42 < dongs> to shut them down properly 2016-03-06T06:42:42 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T06:42:46 < dongs> really fuck intel 2016-03-06T06:44:38 < jadew> what are the benefits of vmware over hyper-v? 2016-03-06T06:45:51 < dongs> the fact that it works 2016-03-06T06:46:18 < jadew> what didn't work on hyper-v? 2016-03-06T06:46:24 < nikomo> what you should really do, is not contact them and buy amd instead 2016-03-06T07:03:39 < dongs> nikomo: they need to be informed they're making shit 2016-03-06T07:04:03 < nikomo> Implying they don't already know 2016-03-06T07:04:21 < dongs> having unsigned exes up for downloadin 2016 is just unexxcusable 2016-03-06T07:04:40 < dongs> unsigned exes that require a reboot for no reason is just fucking criminal 2016-03-06T07:06:36 < PeterM> yeah mang, how is anyone gonna have xbox hueg uptimes if you gotta reboot to update drivers for mroe reliability so you can get better uptime, it's like have you ever seen a man eat his own head? 2016-03-06T07:44:31 < dongs> http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Gallery.aspx?id=06_03_2016_029_006&type=A&eid=31804 2016-03-06T07:46:08 < dongs> youre quick 2016-03-06T07:47:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the 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2016-03-06T09:07:48 < PeterM> R2COM, Original author(s) TeamSpeak Systems GmbH 2016-03-06T09:07:48 < PeterM> Initial release October 2001; 14 years ago 2016-03-06T09:08:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T09:11:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T09:12:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-06T09:14:41 < nikomo> mumble > all 2016-03-06T09:14:51 < nikomo> (I host a mumble server) 2016-03-06T09:15:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T09:15:08 < nikomo> though I host a mumble server because mumble > all 2016-03-06T09:16:11 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T09:22:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T09:25:57 -!- 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quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-06T14:15:50 < PeterM> Martin90, yes 2016-03-06T14:16:33 < Sync_> eg stm32f103c8t7 2016-03-06T14:17:17 < PeterM> there isnt a hell of a lot of stock for it 2016-03-06T14:17:26 < PeterM> maybe they're anticipating lead times 2016-03-06T14:17:38 < lorenzo> Sync_: eh yeah that's up quite a bit at 1k units 2016-03-06T14:18:21 < Steffanx> ebay sells to many of those cheap arse 103c8 boards? ;) 2016-03-06T14:18:26 < Steffanx> *too 2016-03-06T14:18:40 < PeterM> nah there probably a billion in stock in .cn 2016-03-06T14:19:16 < Sync_> yeah idk wtf happened there lorenzo 2016-03-06T14:19:19 < Steffanx> Can't we send you to get them back? 2016-03-06T14:19:27 < lorenzo> those are c8t6 iirc 2016-03-06T14:19:44 < lorenzo> at least the two I've bought for 1.5$ and never used lol 2016-03-06T14:20:02 < Steffanx> ah yes, t7 2016-03-06T14:20:04 < Steffanx> *t6 2016-03-06T14:22:14 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T14:22:25 < timemob> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-Programming-RFID-Design-Antenna/ attn zyp 2016-03-06T14:22:55 < lorenzo> (7 is industrial temperature range) 2016-03-06T14:26:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b5ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-06T14:32:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-06T14:34:04 < zyp> timemob, haha 2016-03-06T14:35:23 < Steffanx> Do you have an account there so you can see more details timemob? 2016-03-06T14:35:40 < timemob> there aren't that many details 2016-03-06T14:36:09 < timemob> what you see without account is probably all 2016-03-06T14:36:21 < Steffanx> no info like where from, other projects and crap? 2016-03-06T14:37:51 < timemob> ya nobody can see that 2016-03-06T14:38:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T14:38:20 < timemob> you can get their username if you bid 2016-03-06T14:38:29 < timemob> and see their past reviews 2016-03-06T14:38:41 < kakimir> anyone using git to backup projects? 2016-03-06T14:39:16 < timemob> no kikemir. 2016-03-06T14:39:27 < timemob> I use "beaky" to backup projects 2016-03-06T14:39:39 < timemob> it's a git fork 2016-03-06T14:39:45 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-06T14:40:00 < timemob> just dumber 2016-03-06T14:40:09 < kakimir> ext. hard drive is nice but not that frequent 2016-03-06T14:40:45 < kakimir> it doesn't follow the seperate place policy thought 2016-03-06T14:41:11 < kakimir> when my barn burns 2016-03-06T14:41:14 < kakimir> both are gones 2016-03-06T14:41:21 < timemob> backup to the cloud 2016-03-06T14:41:38 < kakimir> where and how exactly? 2016-03-06T14:41:41 < kakimir> recommends 2016-03-06T14:41:46 < timemob> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Design-Arduino-compatible-PCB-for/ 2016-03-06T14:41:57 < timemob> Google drive??? 2016-03-06T14:42:22 < timemob> or just tar and uploaded your shit to rapidgator 2016-03-06T14:42:44 < kakimir> both are too laborous 2016-03-06T14:42:52 < kakimir> process needs to be invisible 2016-03-06T14:43:16 < kakimir> in 2016 2016-03-06T14:43:24 < timemob> backup to /dev/null 2016-03-06T14:43:33 < Sync_> tarschnab 2016-03-06T14:44:29 < kakimir> *smell of breath when drinking excessivelly coffee* 2016-03-06T14:44:42 < PeterM> kakimir, stop being broke and jsut use like backblaze or some shit 2016-03-06T14:45:09 < kakimir> what..? backb.. 2016-03-06T14:45:15 < kakimir> never heard of 2016-03-06T14:46:04 < BrainDamage> crt: why downloading swap when you can just http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ 2016-03-06T14:46:30 < kakimir> why would I pay for something like that 2016-03-06T14:46:39 < kakimir> some propiertary solution 2016-03-06T14:46:55 < timemob> well fucker 2016-03-06T14:46:59 < kakimir> I rather use excisting frameworks 2016-03-06T14:47:07 < timemob> then write your own open solution 2016-03-06T14:47:15 < BrainDamage> autismir, why are you asking for other opinions if you're not interested in them? 2016-03-06T14:47:24 < timemob> and stop assburgering 2016-03-06T14:48:25 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T14:48:35 < timemob> bought z170-pro 2016-03-06T14:48:41 < timemob> for almost half price 2016-03-06T14:49:00 < timemob> cuz "some pins in socket were bent" 2016-03-06T14:51:16 < timemob> donno 2016-03-06T14:51:26 < timemob> will see bent pins and fix them 2016-03-06T14:52:06 < lorenzo> kakimir: I use git 2016-03-06T14:52:09 < timemob> since lga1151 or whatever is like 90% gnd pins, I doubt it's even essential 2016-03-06T14:52:13 < lorenzo> well, use, I know how to clone and commit and push lol 2016-03-06T14:52:18 < zyp> haha 2016-03-06T14:52:42 < timemob> I will check with datasheet to make sure tho 2016-03-06T14:52:52 < kakimir> there seems to be no automatic sync? 2016-03-06T14:53:09 < lorenzo> kakimir: when you're done working you type in a few magic commands and it's synced to the git server 2016-03-06T14:53:21 < timemob> kikemir, Windows has volume shadow copy 2016-03-06T14:53:22 < kakimir> maybe just add it to windows tasks 2016-03-06T14:53:24 < timemob> and backup 2016-03-06T14:53:36 < kakimir> it's utilized already timemob 2016-03-06T14:53:41 < timemob> good. 2016-03-06T14:53:49 < kakimir> I don't trust ssd 2016-03-06T14:54:07 < kakimir> when it fails.. all is gone and nothing will be retrived 2016-03-06T14:54:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-06T14:55:06 < timemob> I should backup my stuff more often 2016-03-06T14:55:32 < kakimir> obiviously 2016-03-06T14:55:37 < timemob> bbl, dongs 2016-03-06T14:55:38 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-06T14:55:40 < lorenzo> I started doing backups on my own when mr. sysadmin in my company told me we use LTO-2 tapes 2016-03-06T14:55:44 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-06T14:56:17 < BrainDamage> i'm not familliar, are they unreliable or what? 2016-03-06T14:56:50 < kakimir> https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/ 2016-03-06T14:56:54 < lorenzo> BrainDamage: they're extremely reliable. the problem is that I've read how the whole thing is set up and it's scary 2016-03-06T14:57:11 < lorenzo> there's this ADIC Scalar tape library which holds 48 tapes (went out of support 5-6 years ago) 2016-03-06T14:57:21 < lorenzo> and a software by IBM (Tivoli Storage Manager) which does the manage-all-the-tapes thing 2016-03-06T14:57:24 < lorenzo> like rotating backups and such 2016-03-06T14:57:29 < kakimir> who still uses tapes.. 2016-03-06T14:58:04 < kakimir> https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/ 2016-03-06T14:58:16 < kakimir> whoops sorry.. 2016-03-06T14:58:16 < lorenzo> BrainDamage: so if anything in the chain fails and there are no spares available (good luck finding them for a decade old library) we're screwed I think 2016-03-06T14:58:43 < BrainDamage> ah 2016-03-06T14:58:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 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std periph too 2016-03-06T15:05:06 < Martin90> even worst things actually :P 2016-03-06T15:05:19 < MightyPork> matter of personal taste I guess. you can also use libopencm3 2016-03-06T15:05:45 < MightyPork> from what ive seen so far, HAL is like the std periph, but mutated to a huge messy monster 2016-03-06T15:06:03 < MightyPork> /** { @ begin user code 99 */ 2016-03-06T15:07:20 < Martin90> what about STMCube™ ? 2016-03-06T15:07:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-06T15:08:37 < MightyPork> but thats just a generator for the hall mess 2016-03-06T15:08:43 < Martin90> they are literally HAL drivers + more 2016-03-06T15:08:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T15:09:30 < Martin90> MightyPork: keep in mind that they are official STMicroelectronics product 2016-03-06T15:09:46 < MightyPork> maybe that is why it sucks so much 2016-03-06T15:10:52 < MightyPork> idk I'm biased 2016-03-06T15:11:08 < MightyPork> it doesn't generate a plain Makefile project, so it's always huge pain to at least get it to build 2016-03-06T15:12:32 < ReadError> Martin90 I like chibios HAL 2016-03-06T15:13:19 < Martin90> MightyPork: after import to SW4STM32 makefiles are there 2016-03-06T15:13:42 < MightyPork> is SW4 any good? 2016-03-06T15:13:56 < MightyPork> been using QtCreator with openocd and it's working nice 2016-03-06T15:14:44 < ReadError> it was complete shit when I tried it 2016-03-06T15:15:05 < Martin90> ReadError: thanks for mentioning chibios 2016-03-06T15:16:24 < Martin90> MightyPork: SW4STM32 hmm I hated it at first but it works and there are build system, debugger etc on the board 2016-03-06T15:16:33 < Martin90> it's based on eclipse 2016-03-06T15:16:49 < MightyPork> yea I've noticed that from the screenshots, rebranded eclipse 2016-03-06T15:17:21 < ReadError> if you use windows 2016-03-06T15:17:25 < ReadError> chibistudio is nice 2016-03-06T15:17:31 < ReadError> shit just works 2016-03-06T15:17:50 < MightyPork> nah dont use windows 2016-03-06T15:18:49 < Martin90> MightyPork: what about that qt creator is it worth using ? 2016-03-06T15:19:51 < MightyPork> it has all I need, just the debugger is a bit pain to set up 2016-03-06T15:20:17 < MightyPork> maybe not if you rtfm and not try to "just figure it out" like me 2016-03-06T15:20:20 < Martin90> have you guys tested SW4STM32 ? 2016-03-06T15:20:45 < Martin90> ReadError: you said you did right ? What was wrong with it ? 2016-03-06T15:21:03 < ReadError> shit just didnt work 2016-03-06T15:21:20 < ReadError> tried something from timecube 2016-03-06T15:21:22 < ReadError> didnt work 2016-03-06T15:21:26 < Martin90> you couldn't vompile, debug or what ? 2016-03-06T15:21:28 < ReadError> tried an included demo or something 2016-03-06T15:21:30 < ReadError> didnt work 2016-03-06T15:21:36 < ReadError> wouldnt compile 2016-03-06T15:21:46 < ReadError> and I didnt want to fuck with fixing or looking in to why 2016-03-06T15:22:18 < Steffanx> fuck them.. register to downloa 2016-03-06T15:22:26 < Steffanx> d 2016-03-06T15:23:32 < Martin90> ReadError: what you end up with ? 2016-03-06T15:23:40 < MightyPork> reason why I'm registered as mr. Notyour Business 2016-03-06T15:23:41 < ReadError> chibistudio 2016-03-06T15:24:12 < Martin90> mhm ok 2016-03-06T15:30:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T15:39:43 < kakimir> kikecad is fukken with me 2016-03-06T15:39:56 < kakimir> it doesn't show my own lib footprints 2016-03-06T15:40:01 < kakimir> just empty libs 2016-03-06T15:40:07 < kakimir> so I can't change SMAs 2016-03-06T15:41:12 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-06T15:50:42 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKc3lHdnpTZEl3OUU/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-06T15:50:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-06T15:53:05 < MightyPork> hmm looked at the SW4 and it's actually nice. But flashing / hw debug does not seem to work 2016-03-06T15:54:04 < Martin90> MightyPork: works for my F446RE 2016-03-06T15:54:20 < MightyPork> yea I imagine it does. something fucked up with the settings 2016-03-06T15:54:31 < Martin90> MightyPork: it works for sure but I believe not out of box - requires some initialization... 2016-03-06T15:55:16 < Martin90> what I don't like about SW is their stupid idea in folders organization 2016-03-06T15:55:52 < Martin90> folders are mapped different in app then they are physically on disk 2016-03-06T16:04:50 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T16:04:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T16:06:20 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T16:32:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T16:32:54 -!- sterna1 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Have you already tried shaking it off manually? 2016-03-06T19:05:05 < kakimir> no.. to short of course is too short 2016-03-06T19:05:46 < kakimir> I wonder how it's done in critical applications 2016-03-06T19:06:06 < kakimir> maybe some select wheels or such are utilised 2016-03-06T19:06:20 < kakimir> dip switches and 2016-03-06T19:06:34 < kakimir> small smd switches 2016-03-06T19:11:23 < kakimir> add holes to board and wire the jumper down 2016-03-06T19:11:38 < kakimir> get avionic certification! 2016-03-06T19:13:59 < Steffanx> ask dongs how his vibrator/dildo does it. 2016-03-06T19:15:30 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-06T19:15:32 < kakimir> i will 2016-03-06T19:22:05 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@host-107-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T19:25:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-06T19:27:24 -!- afr4lk1 [~Z3N0mu1@104.223.1.159] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T19:27:26 -!- afr4lk1 [~Z3N0mu1@104.223.1.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T19:27:35 -!- afr4lk1 [~Z3N0mu1@104.223.1.159] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T19:29:12 < jpa-> kakimir: my ebike has a few dupont connectors (2 pcs 2pin, 1 pc 6 pin) and so far they've survived 1.5 months of vibration 2016-03-06T19:29:58 < kakimir> ridig mount? 2016-03-06T19:30:02 < kakimir> to frame? 2016-03-06T19:30:11 < jpa-> not really, and definitely not all the way to pcb 2016-03-06T19:30:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.173] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T19:30:25 -!- k4N0w1 [~Z3N0mu1@104.223.1.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-06T19:30:32 < kakimir> okay 2016-03-06T19:30:50 < kakimir> I plan to have pcb very tightly mounted to enclosure 2016-03-06T19:30:50 < jpa-> but as usual with vibration, it just depends on what kind of resonances you happen to get 2016-03-06T19:31:08 < jpa-> the more rigid and solid, usually makes it better 2016-03-06T19:34:24 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-74-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T19:36:39 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@host-107-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-06T19:37:06 < kakimir> yes resonations 2016-03-06T19:37:19 < kakimir> I bet jumper needs quite high frequency 2016-03-06T19:37:32 < jpa-> well if only the jumper 2016-03-06T19:38:09 < jpa-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb2QZQ9Z0vA if your pcb starts doing this funny stuff might happen 2016-03-06T19:39:09 < kakimir> that is why I have screw holes in the middle 2016-03-06T19:39:17 < kakimir> not just 1 but 2 2016-03-06T19:39:29 < jpa-> and you just doubled the frequency :) 2016-03-06T19:40:02 < kakimir> you happen to have such test grid jpa? 2016-03-06T19:40:13 < kakimir> would be nice to run some test just out of curiousity 2016-03-06T19:40:18 < kakimir> tests* 2016-03-06T19:40:27 < jpa-> at workplace sure, but no, i won't test your board 2016-03-06T19:41:08 < kakimir> maybe speaker coil and amplifier would do 2016-03-06T19:41:20 < kakimir> connected to computer 2016-03-06T19:41:29 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-74-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-06T19:41:35 < kakimir> play it some.. justin bieber 2016-03-06T19:41:37 < jpa-> yeah, that is pretty much what we have at work 2016-03-06T19:42:00 < jpa-> though 50kW speaker, but that's just what you'd find in an average student car 2016-03-06T19:42:01 < kakimir> does it have any feedback? 2016-03-06T19:42:23 < jpa-> yeah, accelerometer mounted at whatever position is interesting 2016-03-06T19:42:29 < kakimir> 50kw? what are you testing in it? small airplanes? 2016-03-06T19:42:42 < kakimir> actual buildings? 2016-03-06T19:43:06 < jpa-> IIRC 30 kg maximum mass.. swinging that around at 10kHz takes some power 2016-03-06T19:43:29 < kakimir> is there even practical sources for such vibrations existing? 2016-03-06T19:43:59 < kakimir> or is it to study more like impulses 2016-03-06T19:44:40 < jpa-> i guess the point is to test with higher levels than what would be met in reality; and that is just peak power anyway so i guess more like impulses yeah 2016-03-06T19:44:54 < jpa-> for resonances you don't need that much because, well, it would resonate 2016-03-06T19:44:56 < kakimir> well for 30kg 50kw is nothing 2016-03-06T19:45:22 < ReadError> i want to know if kakimir actually makes/uses all the pcb he designs 2016-03-06T19:45:37 < jpa-> ReadError: no-one makes *all* the pcbs one designs 2016-03-06T19:46:05 < kakimir> that's undisclosed information ReadError 2016-03-06T19:46:37 < jpa-> kakimir: yeah, 30kg @ 50kW seems to be like just 10g acceleration or so 2016-03-06T19:49:09 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T19:49:19 < ReadError> damn, final episode of mythbusters, they film an explosion at 50,000 FPS 2016-03-06T19:50:36 < kakimir> still too slow? 2016-03-06T19:50:44 < kakimir> didn't mythbusters end already? 2016-03-06T19:50:49 < kakimir> a time ago 2016-03-06T19:50:51 < ReadError> i guess 10,000 is standard 2016-03-06T19:50:55 < ReadError> no 2016-03-06T19:51:13 < ReadError> series finale was yesterday 2016-03-06T19:53:26 < kakimir> mythbusters just lost the energy at some point 2016-03-06T19:53:58 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T19:53:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T20:00:31 < ReadError> ahaha 2016-03-06T20:00:38 < ReadError> they put buster on a rocketsled 2016-03-06T20:00:45 < ReadError> and ran him into a brick wall 2016-03-06T20:00:58 < ReadError> completely disintegrated him 2016-03-06T20:05:11 < Sync_> rekt 2016-03-06T20:05:31 < Steffanx> series final is in EVER ReadError? 2016-03-06T20:05:39 < ReadError> yea 2016-03-06T20:05:57 < Steffanx> i dont follow mythbusters actively, but do enjoy the show once in a while 2016-03-06T20:06:18 < Steffanx> awh, too bad. We cannot do without those 2 guys on tv 2016-03-06T20:09:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T20:20:18 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Quit: Quit - Powered by ZNC] 2016-03-06T20:22:28 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:23:23 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T20:23:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:23:45 -!- afr4lk1 [~Z3N0mu1@104.223.1.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T20:29:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:31:31 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:31:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T20:37:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:37:04 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T20:42:04 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-06T20:42:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T20:42:38 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:43:59 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T20:55:02 < kakimir> http://www.cleanroom.byu.edu/MOSFET_calc.phtml looking for mosfet calculator 2016-03-06T20:55:07 < kakimir> this is not what I looked for 2016-03-06T21:10:30 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:11:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:12:13 < Steffanx> jpa- im slightly disappointed. first i was yay new essentialscrap, but it was just a cute puzzle 2016-03-06T21:15:34 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T21:15:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:16:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T21:16:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:20:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-06T21:31:43 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:31:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T21:32:27 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T21:37:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:37:21 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T21:42:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T21:42:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T21:44:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.158.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-06T21:50:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T21:50:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:01:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-06T22:02:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:06:00 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:06:00 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T22:18:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:21:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-06T22:25:58 < julius> Steffanx, with stlink you mean that programmer? 2016-03-06T22:26:22 < julius> Steffanx, sorry...you answered me on the 5.3.16 2016-03-06T22:26:26 < julius> its a bit late 2016-03-06T22:27:03 < julius> i was asking of this board coud be used by openocd: http://de.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-arduino/32478120209.html 2016-03-06T22:27:14 < julius> looks like stlink could be a software too 2016-03-06T22:27:48 < Steffanx> ah yes, but that software belong to the stlink programmer 2016-03-06T22:28:13 < Steffanx> You need a programmer or hw that can do swd for you 2016-03-06T22:29:57 < kakimir> what are your experience with 2mm jumper? is it any good? 2016-03-06T22:30:26 < Steffanx> Why go with 2mm when 2.54" is common and ( probably ) everyone has it? 2016-03-06T22:30:34 < kakimir> size 2016-03-06T22:30:51 < Steffanx> then go solder jumper? 2016-03-06T22:32:06 < Steffanx> so the board itself cannot be used by just openocd, you need some too to program it julius 2016-03-06T22:33:27 < kakimir> good reminder Steffanx I need some of those placed on top of pin strip jumpers for some default seting 2016-03-06T22:33:30 < kakimir> setting 2016-03-06T22:36:17 < julius> ok, thank you 2016-03-06T22:36:36 < julius> yes, the stlink is a hardware programmer i ordered...must have forgotten 2016-03-06T22:37:44 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-06T22:44:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:44:35 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T22:51:42 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-149-199-145.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-06T22:53:36 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:53:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T22:54:01 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T22:59:02 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-06T22:59:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T23:03:47 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-20-7.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T23:05:56 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-06T23:06:54 < kakimir> I wonder if I could turn off ctrl - S function 2016-03-06T23:09:39 < ReadError> why 2016-03-06T23:13:39 < kakimir> so I never ping timeout 2016-03-06T23:13:41 < kakimir> never never 2016-03-06T23:14:25 < ReadError> saving makes you time out? 2016-03-06T23:15:02 < kakimir> its stop 2016-03-06T23:15:12 < kakimir> pauses screen 2016-03-06T23:15:23 < kakimir> on it's tracks 2016-03-06T23:15:40 < ReadError> is this some lunix shortcut? 2016-03-06T23:15:52 < ReadError> in windows thats normally reserved for saving stuff... 2016-03-06T23:16:27 < kakimir> it propably is 2016-03-06T23:16:36 < kakimir> ctrl c kills and so on 2016-03-06T23:21:24 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-03-06T23:22:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-06T23:34:17 < artag> can a placement machine fit a solder bump ? You might need to place a zero ohm link to get over a solder massk, or miss the solder mask and get accidental links. I don't know, i haven't tried. 2016-03-06T23:34:29 < artag> kakimir: ^^ 2016-03-06T23:36:57 < artag> ctrl-s is XOFF. It tends to stop things with a serial connection and many other streams, even in windows. Only in terminals though, not the sort of screen where it might mean 'save'. I think that usage comes from some IBM standard (the same one that gave us ^C, ^X, ^V) 2016-03-06T23:37:55 < ReadError> artag paste dispenser on a PnP ? 2016-03-06T23:39:01 < artag> ReadError: maybe, but if there were solder resist it would probably shrink away. I'm not sure if it would get accidentally linked without - it would on a flow solder but probably not on paste. 2016-03-06T23:39:57 < ReadError> what are you trying to do? 2016-03-06T23:40:00 < artag> commercial boards do tend to use 0R for links though. Just leave solder blobs for ens users 2016-03-06T23:40:05 < artag> *end users 2016-03-06T23:40:37 < ReadError> oh just stencil them? 2016-03-06T23:40:44 < artag> I was just responding to kakimir's question about links 2016-03-06T23:45:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-06T23:46:56 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-06T23:57:05 < Laurenceb_> http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Education/article1675356.ece --- Day changed Mon Mar 07 2016 2016-03-07T00:00:47 < kakimir> artag: why would I bother? 2016-03-07T00:02:04 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/mADZPUu 2016-03-07T00:02:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-07T00:03:55 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016 2016-03-07T00:03:57 < Laurenceb_> lol trolled 2016-03-07T00:04:32 < englishman> wikipedia trolling was boring in 2002 2016-03-07T00:04:52 < englishman> thanks for taking this chan back to the 86k days Laurence Potter 2016-03-07T00:07:10 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T00:33:50 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.23] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T00:38:44 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: http://i.imgur.com/5NNQohh.jpg 2016-03-07T00:38:58 < kakimir> my life 2016-03-07T00:39:59 -!- Martin90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T00:41:33 < artag> kakimir: no idea, don't know what you're making 2016-03-07T00:42:39 < kakimir> just use 0603 jumpers 2016-03-07T00:42:52 < kakimir> solder doesn't really jump over in pcbs 2016-03-07T00:43:08 < kakimir> without draging physically 2016-03-07T00:43:23 < kakimir> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3230854/ seems interesting 2016-03-07T00:45:56 < zyp> kakimir, I'm a heavy sleeper too :/ 2016-03-07T00:52:57 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-07T00:55:13 < kakimir> http://imgur.com/gallery/s8kOWXK 2016-03-07T00:55:31 < kakimir> it's really weird when I have jobs I wake up pretty well 2016-03-07T00:55:49 < kakimir> even in early morning hours after just 5hours or so sleep 2016-03-07T01:09:23 < Laurenceb_> http://amazingdiyprojects.com/pdf/edf_microafterburner.pdf 2016-03-07T01:11:32 < kakimir> crap 2016-03-07T01:11:42 < kakimir> it needs more boost! 2016-03-07T01:11:54 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-07T01:12:00 < Laurenceb_> nice design tho 2016-03-07T01:12:13 < Laurenceb_> I'm tempted to copy it for a hot air balloon burner 2016-03-07T01:15:25 < kakimir> swedish guy made that years ago 2016-03-07T01:15:42 < kakimir> that youtube rc star 2016-03-07T01:16:23 < Laurenceb_> http://madlibs.shpg.org/madlibs/1atk2rk?created=true 2016-03-07T01:35:57 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-25-189.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T01:37:28 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-25-189.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T01:37:30 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T01:46:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T02:05:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T02:14:58 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-07T02:15:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T02:23:50 < kakimir> damn imgur 2016-03-07T02:24:21 < kakimir> I blame you Laurenceb_ 2016-03-07T02:26:39 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-07T02:30:27 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-07T02:37:52 < kakimir> jumper unmating force is about 1N 2016-03-07T02:38:13 < kakimir> mating force is about 4N 2016-03-07T02:38:25 < kakimir> this is absolute truth 2016-03-07T02:41:08 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFXOgfzzCn8&app=desktop 2016-03-07T02:41:36 < Laurenceb_> guess what happens there? 2016-03-07T02:41:37 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T02:41:38 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T02:42:50 < Laurenceb_> 8chan /pol/ hq 2016-03-07T02:43:04 < kakimir> hah 2016-03-07T02:43:24 < Laurenceb_> that guy (I'm guessing its a guy) is /pol/ admin 2016-03-07T02:43:24 < kakimir> here you have some public scheme you have to follow in town area 2016-03-07T02:43:30 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-43-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T02:43:56 < Laurenceb_> 1:10 /pol/ shack spotted 2016-03-07T02:44:09 < Laurenceb_> also why is "he" wearing a skirt 2016-03-07T02:44:54 < Sync_> because scotland 2016-03-07T02:54:01 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/dfjsteve/status/705925529388453888 2016-03-07T02:54:04 < Laurenceb_> lol linkedin 2016-03-07T03:07:18 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gevI96XqAKc holy shit 2016-03-07T03:07:49 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ cuck meme is bad on admins life 2016-03-07T03:07:53 < Laurenceb_> *based 2016-03-07T03:08:55 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T03:08:55 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T03:15:11 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-07T03:19:51 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T03:19:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-07T03:22:01 < dongs> Peter_M: your vape boxes are here 2016-03-07T03:22:22 < dongs> and looks amaze 2016-03-07T03:22:26 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T03:23:03 < Peter_M> dongs, orly 2016-03-07T03:23:07 < dongs> yarly 2016-03-07T03:23:16 * Peter_M posts owl picture for over 9000 years ago 2016-03-07T03:23:18 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-14-77.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T03:23:24 < Laurenceb_> making vapour inhalers? 2016-03-07T03:23:35 < Peter_M> nah, just got some 18650 holders 2016-03-07T03:24:06 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/RI8IoGw.jpg 2016-03-07T03:24:24 < Peter_M> aww yiss 2016-03-07T03:24:40 < Peter_M> send me an invoice whenever 2016-03-07T03:24:44 < Laurenceb_> very nice 2016-03-07T03:24:53 < dongs> yep will do after figure out shipping 2016-03-07T03:24:59 < Laurenceb_> 18650 is about 1MJ/Kg, very nice stuff 2016-03-07T03:25:11 < Laurenceb_> well the LG ones are 2016-03-07T03:25:20 < Peter_M> yeah, i got a few 26650 holders before, they are keystone clones, but imho they are equal or better in quality 2016-03-07T03:25:23 < Laurenceb_> Panasonic are probably higher but Tesla grabbed them all 2016-03-07T03:25:53 < Peter_M> good energy density also pretty decent power density 2016-03-07T03:26:28 < Peter_M> is a pitty they dont tesselate being round and all 2016-03-07T03:26:31 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T03:27:15 < Laurenceb_> pity Li-S doesnt really work 2016-03-07T03:28:33 < wbraun> so there is the STM32_HAL_Driver and the StdPeriph_Driver. Whats up with that? Is there a reason to use one over the other? I guess if I want to use MXCube I need to use the HAL_Driver… 2016-03-07T03:34:02 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-07T03:34:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T03:40:33 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-07T03:55:16 < Laurenceb_> http://austinpetersen2016.com/ lul nice site 2016-03-07T03:55:57 < Laurenceb_> at least he can afford an actual site 2016-03-07T03:55:59 < Laurenceb_> https://www.facebook.com/VerminSupreme/ 2016-03-07T03:58:20 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T04:01:34 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-07T04:04:53 < dongs> Peter_M: 7.7kg 2016-03-07T04:14:04 < dongs> Peter_M: sending bill 2016-03-07T04:22:19 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T04:22:48 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-07T04:27:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T04:29:14 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-07T04:35:15 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/WAQIQdY 2016-03-07T04:51:42 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T04:52:47 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-20-7.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-07T04:57:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-07T04:57:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-07T05:16:29 < englishman> wbraun: stdperiphlib is all but discontinued, its not even available for newer chips 2016-03-07T05:16:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-07T05:18:20 < englishman> But that's OK since hal and timecube are awesome, especially if you're a pencilneck conformist who tucks his T-shirt into his pants and doesn't like to DMA to any timer register other than ccr 2016-03-07T05:18:59 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-07T05:57:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-07T06:16:08 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:23:45 -!- wbraun_ [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-75-160.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:26:15 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-14-77.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-07T06:26:15 -!- wbraun_ is now known as wbraun 2016-03-07T06:27:59 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:31:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:31:58 < wbraun> I cant tell if you are being serious englishman. 2016-03-07T06:32:30 < wbraun> It seems that you could just setup the DMA manually if you need a different timer? 2016-03-07T06:32:49 < wbraun> But its typically recommended to ditch the stdperiphlib? 2016-03-07T06:32:51 < englishman> sure, you can program your own timer handlers etc 2016-03-07T06:33:02 < englishman> Then what's the point of a hal 2016-03-07T06:33:16 < englishman> Stdperiphlib is dead 2016-03-07T06:33:53 < englishman> St told me 1.5 years ago they will update stdperiphlib for another year then drop it. 2016-03-07T06:34:42 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-07T06:35:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:39:13 < wbraun> if there are these issues with hal, what are you using instead? 2016-03-07T06:39:57 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T06:40:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-07T06:40:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:41:24 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:41:39 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T06:47:05 < englishman> I'm using hal and timecube. After trying to make chibios work. St hal works fine, but its clearly made by people with tight collars, is all. 2016-03-07T06:49:11 < dongs> http://blogs.perl.org/users/zoffix_znet/2016/01/python-is-the-new-write-only-linenoise-language.html 2016-03-07T06:53:33 < emeb_mac> perl and python in a duel-to-the-death cagematch to see which language is harder to read 2016-03-07T06:54:18 < Sync_> well perl will win 2016-03-07T06:54:33 < englishman> dongs, more reasons why teslas are shit investments and shit cars for anyone who doesn't live in California and work for Google http://syonyk.blogspot.ca/2016/03/is-tesla-building-throwaway-cars.html?m=1 2016-03-07T07:01:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-07T07:02:32 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T07:04:12 < wbraun> I wonder if they will just switch to a lease model 2016-03-07T07:05:00 < wbraun> prehaps when they are also self driving 2016-03-07T07:08:33 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T07:18:02 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-43-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-07T07:19:09 < Sync_> I like how they claim that what the one guy did was industrial espionage 2016-03-07T07:28:49 < jpa-> Steffanx: maybe i'll write another small one this week 2016-03-07T07:31:08 < jpa-> Steffanx: but don't worry, in two months it'll live up to its name and have only diaper-rolling machines etc. 2016-03-07T07:32:31 < dongs> englishman: plz use "no bom" parts for shit that doesn't need ot be placed on pcb 2016-03-07T07:32:43 < dongs> like doge footprints, SJWs, etc 2016-03-07T07:32:55 < dongs> ther'es a checkbox for that shit in footprint/component editor 2016-03-07T07:41:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T08:00:01 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-07T08:01:31 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T08:04:29 < Peter_M> you made dongs get out his sharipe from his pooper to you the doge silk screen because you didnt tick no bom 2016-03-07T08:05:35 < dongs> yea man there's more trahs there tho 2016-03-07T08:05:48 < dongs> since he switched to altidong the design stuff is al lfucked 2016-03-07T08:06:04 < dongs> my xy assembly file is just full of 0402CAP type shit and no way to easily crossreference the value 2016-03-07T08:06:18 < dongs> and I need that to find the dicknplace reel when loadin it 2016-03-07T08:08:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-07T08:11:10 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-107-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T08:39:33 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-107-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-07T08:45:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-07ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T08:46:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T08:47:12 < upgrdman> is there any way to search through the altium "live design content" from within altium instead of going to the web site and downloading zip files? 2016-03-07T08:49:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-07T08:50:35 < upgrdman> we know, but there's plenty of non-plebs in here :) 2016-03-07T08:51:25 < Peter_M> honestly, never looked into it 2016-03-07T08:51:29 < dongs> upgrdman: um, yeah, you just attach it as a vault or wahtever? 2016-03-07T08:51:35 < dongs> its same shit like circuitmaker does 2016-03-07T08:51:43 < dongs> except using it online like that makes all parts access suuuuuuuuuuuuuuper slow 2016-03-07T08:51:48 < dongs> so you're MUCH better off downloading zip files 2016-03-07T08:51:53 < dongs> and copying to your own lib 2016-03-07T08:51:58 < upgrdman> oh really? ok 2016-03-07T08:52:23 < upgrdman> damn, was hoping i could like ctrl-f that collection from within altidongs and just click to import 2016-03-07T09:06:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-07ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T09:13:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T09:18:08 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T09:25:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T09:30:24 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T09:30:27 < dongs> besides, online parts contain way too much noice in them 2016-03-07T09:30:28 < dongs> noise 2016-03-07T09:30:38 < dongs> all teh unnecessary custom fields and shit 2016-03-07T09:30:55 < dongs> and i have my own naming conventio nfor stuff 2016-03-07T09:31:09 < Peter_M> 110% 2016-03-07T09:32:39 < Peter_M> i dont need 30 fields of information for this capacitor, i just need 1812 22uf 50v x7r, and mfg part number 2016-03-07T09:36:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T09:38:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-07T09:44:28 < dongs> god damn is there a way t o block a shitbay seller from appearing in my listings 2016-03-07T09:44:34 < dongs> newegg is racist as fuck and doesnt ship to alaska 2016-03-07T09:44:39 < dongs> so I'd rather not see their trash in any of my listings 2016-03-07T09:45:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.41] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T09:46:22 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.149] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-07T09:48:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T09:50:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T09:51:43 < jpa-> dongs: also they spam :F 2016-03-07T09:52:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T09:53:14 < dongs> what the hell why is 16gb ddr4 for normal desktop shit so hard to find 2016-03-07T09:53:23 < dongs> new shit supports it right 2016-03-07T09:58:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/threed-modelling/Design-Product-9866427/ 2016-03-07T09:58:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T10:00:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Create-PCB-for-manufacturing/ 2016-03-07T10:00:33 < dongs> haha 2016-03-07T10:00:36 < dongs> these guys are STILL trying 2016-03-07T10:04:21 < lorenzo> lol "design me a product" 2016-03-07T10:06:04 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/UtxKWWz.jpg 2016-03-07T10:06:09 < dongs> this is what tehy need "laidout" 2016-03-07T10:06:18 < dongs> teh fuckface doesnte even know how to turn off classes/rooms 2016-03-07T10:06:21 < dongs> for unneded shit 2016-03-07T10:08:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T10:11:17 < dongs> also, lol pirated altium 2016-03-07T10:12:22 < Peter_M> winter 09, wow fucking ancient 2016-03-07T10:14:51 < dongs> ya 2016-03-07T10:14:53 < dongs> tahts all chinks use 2016-03-07T10:14:56 < dongs> my taiwan pal refuses to use 16 also 2016-03-07T10:15:04 < dongs> he has some ancient fucking summer/winter something verison 2016-03-07T10:15:53 < Peter_M> dafuq 2016-03-07T10:17:26 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T10:30:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T11:08:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:9c90:f715:b10c:f0ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-07T11:14:50 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T11:20:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-07T11:28:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/directional-converter/ 2016-03-07T11:28:53 < dongs> what the hell is taht even 2016-03-07T11:29:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T11:29:21 < dongs> is that a brushed dc driver thing that either drives or charges? 2016-03-07T11:29:41 < dongs> ah its solar /w whatever shit 2016-03-07T11:29:54 < dongs> good fucking luck for $750 2016-03-07T11:30:00 < dongs> he can just buy some shit off the shelf 2016-03-07T11:31:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Want-buy-Havij-version-cracked-9867521/ 2016-03-07T11:32:10 < dongs> that was f ast 2016-03-07T11:32:34 < dongs> Project Description 2016-03-07T11:32:34 < dongs> Want to buy Havij 1.17 cracked version soft 2016-03-07T11:32:35 < dongs> i will pay good price , contact me who have the app 2016-03-07T11:32:54 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-03-07T11:33:16 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/need-ellectrical-enginear-urgently.html 2016-03-07T11:33:29 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T11:33:38 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-07T11:33:38 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T11:36:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Building-console/ 2016-03-07T11:36:37 < dongs> what teh fuck do these azns want 2016-03-07T11:36:43 < dongs> $50k budget 2016-03-07T11:36:51 < dongs> they can chat with me for $50k 2016-03-07T11:36:55 < dongs> with such clear goals 2016-03-07T11:40:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-49.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T11:45:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-07T11:57:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.158.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T12:05:31 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T12:30:37 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbqpzpbtnzqunrmv] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T12:34:08 < lorenzo> https://www.freelancer.com/u/LindsayHill.html 2016-03-07T12:34:15 < lorenzo> much promising 2016-03-07T12:34:26 < lorenzo> $18/hr, I don't want to know for what 2016-03-07T12:44:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-49.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-07T13:00:41 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T13:00:42 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-07T13:05:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-49.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T13:15:03 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-07T13:18:44 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T13:26:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-07T13:32:57 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Rhv0We4.jpg made this in rice cooker today 2016-03-07T13:33:27 < qyx> lol 2016-03-07T13:33:48 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T13:33:54 < dongs> qyx, have you been taking all teh fun projects from feelancer 2016-03-07T13:34:01 < dongs> there's literally nothign good last week+ 2016-03-07T13:34:15 < qyx> nothing interesting so far 2016-03-07T13:34:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T13:34:40 < qyx> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/CPlusPlus-Programming/Design-Product-9828080/ 2016-03-07T13:34:47 < qyx> this one probably 2016-03-07T13:34:50 < qyx> except the satellite part 2016-03-07T13:34:53 < dongs> saw that 2016-03-07T13:35:07 < dongs> satellite modem is just that iridium thing 2016-03-07T13:35:11 < qyx> I am curious why those people tag their projects as "product design" 2016-03-07T13:35:21 < dongs> its just standard uart shit 2016-03-07T13:35:32 < dongs> ATDT+LOLDONGS 2016-03-07T13:35:50 < dongs> fuck me 2016-03-07T13:35:52 < dongs> like 30 pakis on that project 2016-03-07T13:35:58 < dongs> what are chanceas any of them will actualyl deliver it 2016-03-07T13:36:03 < kakimir> I need 20A ESC 2016-03-07T13:36:08 < kakimir> 10% ? 2016-03-07T13:36:17 < dongs> kakimir: go http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__43709__Afro_ESC_20Amp_Multi_rotor_Motor_Speed_Controller_SimonK_Firmware_.html 2016-03-07T13:36:19 < kakimir> with good flashing support 2016-03-07T13:36:31 < qyx> https://adaptivemodules.co.uk/images/uploaded/Iridium9602-satellite-module.jpg 2016-03-07T13:36:33 < kakimir> simonk or blheli? 2016-03-07T13:36:34 < qyx> much rugged 2016-03-07T13:36:39 < dongs> no blowheli 2016-03-07T13:36:50 < dongs> fuck 8051 2016-03-07T13:37:53 < dongs> was washing dishes and listening to binaural beats anti-autism soundtrack 2016-03-07T13:38:05 < qyx> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13745 2016-03-07T13:38:08 < qyx> the price 2016-03-07T13:38:20 < kakimir> dongs: have you influenced to simonk firmware? 2016-03-07T13:38:27 < dongs> qyx: yes thats the one 2016-03-07T13:38:45 < dongs> there was some sale last year wehre it wasn't that bad 2016-03-07T13:38:49 < dongs> just that its pretty useless :) 2016-03-07T13:39:20 < qyx> that cap 2016-03-07T13:39:24 < qyx> powerstor aerogel 2016-03-07T13:40:08 < dongs> http://www.ionaudio.com/products/details/rock-block 2016-03-07T13:40:27 < kakimir> dongs: I need something I can limit output voltage with ESC firmware to certain level 2016-03-07T13:41:13 < kakimir> also it need to be operational from very low rpm and produce full torque 2016-03-07T13:41:35 < dongs> autismir, sounds like your requirements require a $300 esc 2016-03-07T13:41:56 < kakimir> very low as some 1000-2000rpm 2016-03-07T13:42:28 < kakimir> whem maximum for motor is 5000-6000 2016-03-07T13:43:04 < dongs> hm did mikrostar get hired for somethign 2016-03-07T13:43:14 < dongs> qyx: hwo about this https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/golfcard-board/ 2016-03-07T13:43:19 < dongs> oh right, budget is garbage 2016-03-07T13:44:20 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/MikroStar.html?ref_project_id=9489654 2016-03-07T13:46:09 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Create-PCB-for-manufacturing/ = https://www.freelancer.com/u/LeoTheFreelancer.html 2016-03-07T13:46:26 < dongs> cehck his first portfolio 2016-03-07T13:47:20 < kakimir> maybe I just limit power with transmitter and hope that the nobody woks with it 2016-03-07T13:47:34 < kakimir> oversize motor has the power to melt everything 2016-03-07T13:47:51 < kakimir> or that transmitter wok itself 2016-03-07T13:48:05 < dongs> shut up before i stick you in a wok 2016-03-07T13:48:12 < dongs> and set gas to slow boil 2016-03-07T13:49:18 < kakimir> my autism is very contagious 2016-03-07T13:53:03 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T13:53:55 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Small-DAC-Digital-Analog-Converter/ these guys are gonna have a problem 2016-03-07T13:54:05 < dongs> 1) i have contacts that are mfi, so thats not a big deal but 2016-03-07T13:54:16 < dongs> 2) apple headphone protocol / whatever is 48kHz max 2016-03-07T13:54:32 < dongs> also, they're missing an extra zero 2016-03-07T13:54:33 < dongs> in that price 2016-03-07T13:54:37 < dongs> er budget 2016-03-07T13:55:34 < dongs> the pic of what tehy want it to look like is literally just a 3.5mm jack-sized dongle 2016-03-07T13:58:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T14:06:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T14:11:27 < kakimir> dongs: arent they all? 2016-03-07T14:11:58 < kakimir> and those who come for serious buy never actually hire any of bidders 2016-03-07T14:12:06 < kakimir> never seen again 2016-03-07T14:17:52 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RG-6-Dual-Burial-Coax-Cable-25ft-Length-28W113-/161858769189 what is this for? 2016-03-07T14:25:07 < artag> satellite dish, I think. twin feed. 2016-03-07T14:26:31 < kakimir> what is that little sad wire in the side of it? 2016-03-07T14:26:42 < kakimir> some power feed? 2016-03-07T14:26:52 < artag> power, maybe ? or switching ? Though I thought they usually did phantom power 2016-03-07T14:28:52 < dongs> dual individual LNB 2016-03-07T14:28:59 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-07T14:29:00 < dongs> the one wiht power for HH motor looks different 2016-03-07T14:29:20 < kakimir> do you have satellite dish dongs? 2016-03-07T14:29:21 < dongs> http://www.discount-low-voltage.com/core/media/media.nl/id.168522/c.1259044/.f?h=aaa823499377e1f0a97e 2016-03-07T14:29:24 < dongs> this kinda shit 2016-03-07T14:29:25 < kakimir> is it typical there? 2016-03-07T14:29:27 < BrainDamage> it's grounding 2016-03-07T14:29:29 < dongs> tho like 4 conductors on proper ones 2016-03-07T14:30:06 < dongs> http://img.hisupplier.com/var/userImages/old/myway/myway$111610265.jpg 2016-03-07T14:30:26 < kakimir> here http://www.hillsantenna.com.au/Products/~~/media/HillsProductManager/Hills/HillsAntenna/HillsAntenna/Antenna/TVAntennas/UHFAntennas/Tru-SpecFringe/Image/TSFimage.png this is the thing 2016-03-07T14:30:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-07T14:30:36 < kakimir> also city area has cable tv 2016-03-07T14:30:55 < BrainDamage> most antenna rotators here btw use diseqc 2016-03-07T14:31:51 < kakimir> and if you are rich bitz you have dish in addition 2016-03-07T14:32:36 < BrainDamage> here cable tv is nonexistant, either terrestrial DVB or sat, and more recently, iptv, but the latter sucks horribly 2016-03-07T14:35:03 < kakimir> even in cities? 2016-03-07T14:36:05 < BrainDamage> even in cities, they are deploying fiber now because so far the only connection you could get is trought shitty adsl 2016-03-07T14:37:06 < BrainDamage> altought sometimes they scam you and get FTTC and give you vdsl and still call it fiber 2016-03-07T14:38:31 < BrainDamage> you got murderous animals, start shipping them to foreign countries to threat them to deploy high speed links 2016-03-07T14:40:44 < artag> you've got a government that's committed to protect you from dreadful things on the internets though, amirite ? 2016-03-07T14:41:53 < artag> I'm pretty sure they'll always fail at that. Perhaps that's why they won't let you have a decent connection 2016-03-07T14:46:48 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/KUUBV8x.gifv 2016-03-07T14:57:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-49.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-07T14:58:23 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbqpzpbtnzqunrmv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-07T15:00:58 < karlp> crt: doncha got that fancy NBN? ;) 2016-03-07T15:02:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T15:19:28 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-07T15:29:55 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T15:30:55 -!- cp- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-07T15:32:42 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-07T15:34:49 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T15:35:06 < kakimir> dongs: is blowheli really the suck? 2016-03-07T15:35:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.158.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-07T15:35:24 < kakimir> if I can't even find any compatibility charts for simonk 2016-03-07T15:35:44 < kakimir> as I seem to have some old ESCs laying around 2016-03-07T15:36:17 < Sync_> there is one in his swaghub 2016-03-07T15:39:23 < kakimir> nice 2016-03-07T15:39:30 < kakimir> even my old shiet is supported 2016-03-07T15:39:59 < kakimir> little bit inbreeded industry that bldc control don't you think?? 2016-03-07T15:40:34 < kakimir> there is like few main branches that are with little or no differences in schematic function 2016-03-07T15:40:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.158.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T15:41:07 < Sync_> why change something when you don't need to 2016-03-07T15:41:23 < kakimir> because you could use LPC 2016-03-07T15:41:34 < kakimir> 32bit computing and faster timers 2016-03-07T15:41:42 < kakimir> faster - more accurate 2016-03-07T15:42:20 < kakimir> but hell.. you just want some power out not to be all fancy 2016-03-07T15:42:51 < kakimir> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13tMlu5ldLNpZXwbe6UhDHJhcgTVuljm8HDiDp9WO9Pk/edit#gid=0 2016-03-07T15:43:05 < kakimir> why there is SLASH BLHeli in header? 2016-03-07T15:43:22 < kakimir> so blowheli is some fork of simonk? 2016-03-07T15:45:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-07T15:46:47 < kakimir> some bldc controller designs look super dirty 2016-03-07T15:47:03 < kakimir> how high amperage lines go around 2016-03-07T15:47:17 < kakimir> how you pull amps from sot23 fets 2016-03-07T15:47:57 < kakimir> and what comes to bypass caps 2016-03-07T15:48:20 < kakimir> you have barelly enought 2016-03-07T15:55:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.17] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T15:56:04 < zyp> pff, I bet you're just annoyed they don't have any SMAs 2016-03-07T15:57:10 < englishman> just what I need, an rc ESC with smas for phase outputs 2016-03-07T16:01:09 < kakimir> zyp: such an old joke 2016-03-07T16:01:16 < kakimir> I'm all into mmcx now 2016-03-07T16:01:37 < kakimir> because SMAs are so inexpensive and practical 2016-03-07T16:01:43 < kakimir> and everywhere 2016-03-07T16:04:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T16:14:42 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-20-7.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T16:35:55 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T16:47:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T16:50:58 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sgjwrxqknpsbcypw] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T17:22:35 < ReadError> kakimir blheli works 2016-03-07T17:22:38 < ReadError> I like SK better 2016-03-07T17:22:46 < ReadError> but all the good new escs are silabs 2016-03-07T17:28:19 < Sync_> well, same crap after all 2016-03-07T17:31:13 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T17:34:35 -!- intart [~intart@190.167.169.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T17:34:45 < qyx> is anyone doing electrical wiring diagrams for houses? 2016-03-07T17:38:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.158.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-07T17:41:41 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/ux5LfV2 2016-03-07T17:48:06 < lorenzo> mah patriarchy 2016-03-07T17:53:10 < Laurenceb_> the trailer looks worse than robot monster 2016-03-07T17:54:16 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuNxz9xbSzY 2016-03-07T17:58:10 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T18:00:57 < Laurenceb_> this movie will nose dive harder than American Airlines Flight 77 2016-03-07T18:02:18 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T18:02:34 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T18:03:51 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-07T18:18:45 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T18:26:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T18:37:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T18:39:18 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T18:47:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T18:47:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T18:48:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T18:53:58 -!- jadew` [~razvan@188.27.89.21] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T18:55:58 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T18:56:09 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-03-07T18:57:22 -!- intart [~intart@190.167.169.229] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-07T19:11:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-07T19:12:34 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T19:20:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T19:20:30 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-07T19:33:19 < jpa-> Tectu: are you plug'n'play compatible? 2016-03-07T19:33:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T19:33:49 < Tectu> yes, backwards compatible to 1.2 2016-03-07T19:34:56 < jpa-> great 2016-03-07T19:45:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T19:50:02 < Steffanx> Sexy 2016-03-07T19:50:24 < Steffanx> Sauna proof? 2016-03-07T19:50:58 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-07T19:51:33 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T19:52:05 < jpa-> Steffanx: that remains to be tested 2016-03-07T19:56:29 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-75-160.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-07T20:00:03 < Steffanx> Did you start with the diaper press yet jpa-? 2016-03-07T20:00:11 < Steffanx> Soon you will be out of time 2016-03-07T20:00:18 < Steffanx> If not already that 2016-03-07T20:00:24 < jpa-> no no, i refuse to admit any changes in time availability 2016-03-07T20:00:59 < Steffanx> Oh you will drop him/her just at grandma's house 2016-03-07T20:01:08 < Steffanx> That works too 2016-03-07T20:02:07 < Steffanx> Me imagines jpa- doing this gymnastic pregnant women do. :D 2016-03-07T20:02:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T20:02:30 < Steffanx> Aand push. 2016-03-07T20:02:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T20:02:47 < jpa-> grandma is way too far away 2016-03-07T20:03:08 < jpa-> but we can hire steffie as babysitter 2016-03-07T20:03:23 < Steffanx> Babymir is closer 2016-03-07T20:05:46 < Steffanx> Can i bring tectu? 2016-03-07T20:06:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.189] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T20:09:36 < jpa-> sure 2016-03-07T20:09:41 < jpa-> if you can catch him 2016-03-07T20:12:25 < BrainDamage> i tought pedomir has been banned to stay 300m in proximity of schools and small kids 2016-03-07T20:13:33 < Steffanx> I dont trust italians. They made my car and it broke. 2016-03-07T20:14:16 < BrainDamage> how is that related? 2016-03-07T20:14:28 < BrainDamage> also, nobody trusts a fiat either here 2016-03-07T20:15:03 < englishman> lol 2016-03-07T20:15:06 < englishman> >buys italian car 2016-03-07T20:15:07 < Steffanx> Hah 2016-03-07T20:15:13 < englishman> >surprised when it breaks 2016-03-07T20:15:35 < Steffanx> German and french ones arent better 2016-03-07T20:16:18 < englishman> is it a fiat punto 2016-03-07T20:16:22 < englishman> i just like the name 2016-03-07T20:16:45 < Steffanx> Related to you being italian and your statement about -mir, braindamage 2016-03-07T20:17:04 < Steffanx> Grande Punto Englishmen 2016-03-07T20:17:09 < englishman> lol 2016-03-07T20:17:28 < englishman> even better name 2016-03-07T20:25:11 -!- serserar [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T20:25:59 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokšt] 2016-03-07T20:42:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-07T21:01:56 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-7-108.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T21:04:53 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T21:05:29 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-07T21:32:52 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T21:34:03 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-7-108.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-07T21:41:49 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-7-108.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T21:42:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-07T21:48:59 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T22:00:34 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T22:00:57 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T22:03:14 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-03-07T22:03:42 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T22:04:23 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T22:04:50 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T22:05:06 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-07T22:12:40 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-07T22:19:13 -!- serserar [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-07T22:28:23 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sgjwrxqknpsbcypw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-07T22:57:50 -!- serserar [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-07T22:58:49 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-7-108.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-07T22:59:59 < kakimir> why do they use silabs? 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2016-03-08T00:17:30 < englishman> hmm, what are you doing with 100% duty cycle? 2016-03-08T00:17:37 < englishman> id think horse telemetry could be packetized 2016-03-08T00:17:41 < Laurenceb_> horse telemetry :P 2016-03-08T00:17:44 < Laurenceb_> yeah it is 2016-03-08T00:17:53 < gxti> i knew it! 2016-03-08T00:17:57 < Laurenceb_> but its >50% at times, so might as well be 100% 2016-03-08T00:18:06 < Laurenceb_> as far as the regs go? 2016-03-08T00:18:16 < Laurenceb_> unless I implement AFA ? 2016-03-08T00:18:19 < englishman> kakimir: brit musics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WjeWsiujmU 2016-03-08T00:18:31 < gxti> instrumenting ambulances isn't exciting enough so now he's strapping IMUs to horses to get his kicks 2016-03-08T00:18:38 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-08T00:18:54 < Laurenceb_> my ambulance paper got rejected by 5 journals :-/ 2016-03-08T00:19:20 < englishman> powering ambulances with em:drive, by harry laurance 2016-03-08T00:19:27 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-08T00:20:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-08T00:20:25 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-08T00:20:39 < Sync_> wot Laurenceb_? 2016-03-08T00:20:47 < Sync_> why were you instrumenting ambulances? 2016-03-08T00:21:16 < Laurenceb_> I'll upload my paper :P 2016-03-08T00:22:15 < BrainDamage> he wanted to find the optimal driving method to murder 100% of the patients 2016-03-08T00:22:30 < BrainDamage> by sustaining 10g acceleration for ~5 min 2016-03-08T00:22:34 < Laurenceb_> http://filebin.ca/2ZTRoJ0isP4E/neonatal_transport.pdf 2016-03-08T00:22:37 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-08T00:23:42 < kakimir> englishman: that's like really old stuff 2016-03-08T00:23:51 < englishman> you know what i hate 2016-03-08T00:23:59 < englishman> when someone givs nonspecific requirements 2016-03-08T00:24:04 < englishman> and after delivery increases specifications 2016-03-08T00:24:24 < englishman> thats on you, shittymir 2016-03-08T00:25:52 < Sync_> haha Laurenceb_ 2016-03-08T00:26:03 < Sync_> basically all the shock that happens is during handling :D 2016-03-08T00:26:15 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T00:27:21 < Laurenceb_> yeah but shock hazard is non-existent 2016-03-08T00:27:29 < kakimir> englishman: I asked Laurenceb_ and I have not still added any requirements. chill 2016-03-08T00:27:44 < Laurenceb_> some of the coauthors were obsessed with shock so I added it to the analysis 2016-03-08T00:27:59 < Sync_> yeah 2016-03-08T00:28:06 < Steffanx> No Gary Niger in the author list, im dissappointed 2016-03-08T00:28:11 < Laurenceb_> difficulty of writing a paper goes up exponentially with the number of authors 2016-03-08T00:28:12 < Laurenceb_> lol 2016-03-08T00:28:24 < Sync_> I once instrumented some instruments during shipping 2016-03-08T00:28:33 < Sync_> special air spring lorry and all 2016-03-08T00:28:45 < Laurenceb_> thats the main reason I can't get it published, too multi-disciplinary 2016-03-08T00:29:04 < Sync_> and at the installation site they loaded it on a pallet jack and pulled it over the cobblestone yard 2016-03-08T00:29:19 -!- jadew` [~razvan@188.27.89.21] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-08T00:29:19 -!- jadew` [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T00:29:24 -!- jadew` is now known as jadew 2016-03-08T00:29:57 < Sync_> it was funny to see in the graph 2016-03-08T00:30:09 < Sync_> everything went well and then it arrived 2016-03-08T00:31:44 < englishman> theres nothing about emdrive in this paper at all 2016-03-08T00:31:48 < englishman> just some baby shaking 2016-03-08T00:31:53 < englishman> no wonder it didnt get accepted 2016-03-08T00:32:19 < Laurenceb_> yeah maybe I should add emdrive to epic win 2016-03-08T00:32:31 < Sync_> well 2016-03-08T00:32:40 < Sync_> you need to expose the babbys to emdrive radiation 2016-03-08T00:34:21 < Sync_> that will solve all of the problems 2016-03-08T00:35:06 < Laurenceb_> ironically it turns out that the mattress and harness is resonant at engine frequency and massively amplify everything 2016-03-08T00:36:33 < Sync_> yep 2016-03-08T00:36:42 < Sync_> needs active dampening 2016-03-08T00:37:02 < Laurenceb_> nah just decent dampers 2016-03-08T00:37:31 < Sync_> pfft 2016-03-08T00:37:34 < Laurenceb_> figure 9a, need to get rid of that peak 2016-03-08T00:37:57 < Sync_> "need" 2016-03-08T00:38:13 < BrainDamage> need 0.5T air suspension optical table 2016-03-08T00:39:26 < Laurenceb_> http://filebin.ca/2ZTRoJ0isP4E/neonatal_transport.pdf 2016-03-08T00:39:33 < englishman> medical grade em drive levitation anti babby shaking ambulance bed 2016-03-08T00:40:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T00:41:34 < Laurenceb_> was 2016-03-08T00:42:30 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T00:43:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T00:44:36 < Laurenceb_> oh yeah he is famous 2016-03-08T00:48:33 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T00:51:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T00:54:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T00:57:29 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T00:58:30 < kakimir> crt: couldn't handle the power? 2016-03-08T00:58:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:02:23 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T01:03:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:09:02 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtqpZ2oF36I jungle beat? 2016-03-08T01:11:45 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T01:15:22 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:15:46 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-20-7.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-08T01:17:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T01:24:14 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-08T01:29:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:42:52 -!- serserar [~quassel@46.136.179.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-08T01:44:39 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:45:40 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:54:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:57:02 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T01:57:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T02:00:16 < Laurenceb_> permn00b c question 2016-03-08T02:00:28 < Laurenceb_> how do I use a macro for string initialisation? 2016-03-08T02:00:53 < Laurenceb_> I need something like Usart3_Send_Str((char*)"ATS01=FREQUENCYr\n"); 2016-03-08T02:01:03 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-101-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T02:01:06 < Laurenceb_> where FREQUENCY is defined elsewhere 2016-03-08T02:04:45 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-08T02:04:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Recruiting-smart-Engineers/ 2016-03-08T02:06:05 < englishman> ive been featured on r/iamverysmart does that make me qualified 2016-03-08T02:07:03 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:07:33 < Laurenceb_> some sort of ## usage? 2016-03-08T02:07:42 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-08T02:07:51 < kakimir> I think I leave freelancers 2016-03-08T02:08:12 < Laurenceb_> come on c gurus, this should be obvious :-S 2016-03-08T02:08:46 < dongs> Laurenceb_: wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut 2016-03-08T02:08:51 < dongs> your question makes no fucking sense 2016-03-08T02:09:09 < dongs> #define GAY_COMMAND "ATDT5551212\r\n" 2016-03-08T02:09:13 < dongs> whats wrong wiht that? 2016-03-08T02:09:42 < Laurenceb_> then you need to add the "AT" part when you define 2016-03-08T02:09:49 < Laurenceb_> hmm ok 2016-03-08T02:09:50 < dongs> printf("cocks" GAY_COMMAND "lol"); works too i think 2016-03-08T02:09:55 < Laurenceb_> oh ok 2016-03-08T02:10:00 < Laurenceb_> simples 2016-03-08T02:10:28 < Laurenceb_> how does it know GAY_COMMAND is a string? 2016-03-08T02:10:45 < Laurenceb_> #define GAY_COMMAND "this_is_a_command" ? 2016-03-08T02:11:12 < Laurenceb_> I guess yeah as otherwise it'd be an integer lol 2016-03-08T02:11:13 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-08T02:11:23 < dongs> Laurenceb_: its just a preprocessor substition 2016-03-08T02:11:23 < Laurenceb_> frequency has to be input as a string 2016-03-08T02:11:26 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-08T02:11:50 < Laurenceb_> so uint8_t string[]="gary""niger"; is valid? 2016-03-08T02:11:57 < dongs> ... why [] ? 2016-03-08T02:12:00 < dongs> and yes 2016-03-08T02:12:12 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-08T02:12:14 < dongs> #define DONGS " JEWS " 2016-03-08T02:12:18 < dongs> printf("LOL" DONGS "wat\n"); 2016-03-08T02:12:18 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-08T02:12:26 < dongs> ouitpout of gcc -E: 2016-03-08T02:12:26 < dongs> printf("LOL" " JEWS " "wat\n"); 2016-03-08T02:12:42 < dongs> and of course output is still just waht you expect, without ""'s 2016-03-08T02:12:45 < Laurenceb_> ok I get the idea lul :P 2016-03-08T02:13:14 < englishman> Laurenceb_: your answer is on page 231 of "the c programming language" by dennis m. ritchie 2016-03-08T02:13:32 < Laurenceb_> hmm another reason I should buy that book 2016-03-08T02:13:41 < Laurenceb_> do you know it by heart lol? 2016-03-08T02:14:16 < englishman> no its above my desk and i floppped it open to the preprocessor section which is near the back 2016-03-08T02:14:19 < englishman> took 2.7 seconds 2016-03-08T02:14:31 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-03-08T02:14:41 < dongs> true pro advice 2016-03-08T02:16:30 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-08T02:17:12 < ReadError> hmm 2016-03-08T02:17:20 < ReadError> my 231 has something different 2016-03-08T02:17:53 < ReadError> 2nd 2016-03-08T02:18:07 * Laurenceb_ gets bored and goes back to watching TV 2016-03-08T02:18:19 < Laurenceb_> there is a reality show to mobile phone sales... 2016-03-08T02:18:26 < Laurenceb_> s/to/for 2016-03-08T02:18:39 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-08T02:18:43 < Laurenceb_> I don't know who that is 2016-03-08T02:19:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:7e00:a02b:a003:82b8:4bf3] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:20:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:24:23 < Sync_> what the actual fuck Laurenceb_ 2016-03-08T02:26:39 < dongs> also UselessB, just add varargs to your uart_print() routine then you can do shit like uart("ATDT%d\r\n", 31337); 2016-03-08T02:27:00 < dongs> i mean this is the obvious answer right?! 2016-03-08T02:27:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:30:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T02:32:58 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:37:26 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T02:40:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T02:41:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:43:37 < dongs> nice 2016-03-08T02:43:41 < dongs> signing chinese SLA 2016-03-08T02:44:11 < dongs> "xxxx shall have no obligation hereunder to provide technical support of any kind for the Licensed Software" 2016-03-08T02:44:26 < dongs> "here's some shitty code, figure it out, asshole!" 2016-03-08T02:44:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T02:45:14 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:45:15 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T02:45:25 < Sync_> kek 2016-03-08T02:45:27 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:45:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:45:38 < Sync_> "you buy it, you deal with it" 2016-03-08T02:46:42 < dongs> nah its free 2016-03-08T02:51:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T02:51:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T02:55:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T02:59:41 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-08T03:00:15 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T03:00:28 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T03:02:51 < Laurenceb_> anyone know of an online calculation for running radio propogation models? 2016-03-08T03:03:01 < Laurenceb_> like rural, semi-urban and so on 2016-03-08T03:06:36 < Laurenceb_> http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~jones/es151/prop_models/propagation.html#egli 2016-03-08T03:06:41 < Laurenceb_> this looks easy enough 2016-03-08T03:09:03 < dongs> Laurenceb_: you too can have a chance http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/google-hires-4chan-founder-chris-poole-moot-1201724308/ 2016-03-08T03:09:15 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-08T03:09:24 < dongs> the bar has been set pretty low 2016-03-08T03:09:32 < dongs> now any retard can get into google 2016-03-08T03:09:41 < Laurenceb_> why the hell would I want to work there? 2016-03-08T03:09:51 < dongs> thats what I asked myself wehn tehy asked me to work there 2016-03-08T03:10:30 < Laurenceb_> they asked you to work there 4 realz? 2016-03-08T03:10:44 < Laurenceb_> wonder how long before they hire hotwheelz 2016-03-08T03:11:01 < dongs> yeah but htey were looking for someone passionate with lunix and python 2016-03-08T03:11:06 < dongs> so I had to politely tell them to fuck right off 2016-03-08T03:11:26 < dongs> the only thing im passionate about is clubbing python users to death 2016-03-08T03:11:35 < Laurenceb_> and that Jason guy or whatever he is called 2016-03-08T03:11:50 < Laurenceb_> holy shit Egli loss is huge 2016-03-08T03:11:52 < dongs> https://atfp.org/ 2016-03-08T03:11:53 < Laurenceb_> this isnt nice 2016-03-08T03:12:21 < dongs> Google launched Google+ as its answer to Facebook in late 2011, but has since scaled back ambitions to make Google+ a social layer for all of the company’s products and services. More recently, Google+ has focused on the creation of communities around topics of interest — something that Poole may be able to help with. 2016-03-08T03:12:26 < dongs> lol 2016-03-08T03:12:27 < Laurenceb_> haha 2016-03-08T03:12:28 < dongs> google+ still exists? 2016-03-08T03:12:30 < Laurenceb_> GoogleChan 2016-03-08T03:12:33 < Laurenceb_> coming soon 2016-03-08T03:12:38 < Laurenceb_> and Google/pol/ 2016-03-08T03:12:48 < dongs> google /b+/ 2016-03-08T03:14:34 < Laurenceb_> Spirit1 range of 80m... this can't be right 2016-03-08T03:14:41 < dongs> ownty 2016-03-08T03:15:33 < Laurenceb_> no better than BT 2016-03-08T03:15:46 < dongs> why the dick does ctrl+h in excel default to REPLACE column for selection? 2016-03-08T03:16:05 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-03-08T03:16:06 < Laurenceb_> http://www.wirelesscommunication.nl/reference/chaptr03/pel/tworay.htm 2016-03-08T03:16:11 < Laurenceb_> I fail somethere lol 2016-03-08T03:16:13 < dongs> especially when it doesnt bother taking the selected values as the value to replace?? 2016-03-08T03:16:36 < Laurenceb_> time to c&p matlab for epic win 2016-03-08T03:16:51 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-08T03:17:59 < Laurenceb_> moar like 1.5km, thats perfect 2016-03-08T03:18:21 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T03:34:59 < upgrdman> is that SFW 2016-03-08T03:35:09 < Laurenceb_> http://www.sws.bom.gov.au/Category/HF%20Systems/Online%20Tools/Prediction%20Tools/VUHF/VUHF.php?CatID=6&SecID=7&SecName=Online%20Tools&SubSecID=1&SubSecName=Prediction%20Tools&LinkName=VUHF 2016-03-08T03:35:10 < Laurenceb_> nice 2016-03-08T03:35:19 < upgrdman> R2COM, k, i'll check it later 2016-03-08T03:35:23 < jadew> upgrdman, but it's worth seeing :P 2016-03-08T03:35:26 < jadew> I'd take the risk 2016-03-08T03:35:50 < Sync_> rekt 2016-03-08T03:35:59 < upgrdman> there's some people near me :) 2016-03-08T03:36:35 < upgrdman> "why is the american engineering looking at pron?" 2016-03-08T03:36:42 < upgrdman> i dont need that :) 2016-03-08T03:37:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T03:37:20 < jadew> Laurenceb, that's awesome 2016-03-08T03:42:56 < Laurenceb_> seems to say about 700m range for 250kbps comms 2016-03-08T03:43:01 < Laurenceb_> I'd be happy with that 2016-03-08T03:43:12 < Laurenceb_> unless there is a hill in the way obviously 2016-03-08T03:46:51 < dongs> or a horse 2016-03-08T03:46:51 < Laurenceb_> uh oh https://archive.is/smqrZ 2016-03-08T03:47:08 < Laurenceb_> Sage journals need to be saged 2016-03-08T03:47:22 < Laurenceb_> the device goes on the top of the saddle 2016-03-08T03:47:54 < Laurenceb_> human-ice interactions 2016-03-08T03:47:56 < Laurenceb_> I lolled 2016-03-08T03:48:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T03:48:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-03-08T03:48:23 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-03-08T03:51:08 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-08T03:51:21 < Laurenceb_> but i prefer 8chan 2016-03-08T03:51:52 < Laurenceb_> thats kind of the idea 2016-03-08T03:57:18 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.68] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T03:58:09 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.68] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-08T03:58:40 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.68] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T03:58:49 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T04:05:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T04:10:42 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uurpuxxuybzlhfbp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T04:26:27 < dongs> https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2016/03/07/announcing-sql-server-on-linux/ lol 2016-03-08T04:28:08 < jadew> neat 2016-03-08T04:29:29 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T04:30:29 < hjf_> hi all. I'm trying to debug a project (micropython) for the STM32F4 Discovery board... but when i hit debug on Eclipse i get stuck at Reset_Handler 2016-03-08T04:30:32 < hjf_> ldr sp, =_estack 2016-03-08T04:30:50 < dongs> thats cuz python is shit 2016-03-08T04:31:11 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.68] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-08T04:36:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:7e00:a02b:a003:82b8:4bf3] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T04:42:04 < owl-v-> lol 2016-03-08T04:43:58 < dongs> sup best korea 2016-03-08T04:46:43 < owl-v-> nah, I'm not a nuclear scientist. 2016-03-08T04:47:42 < owl-v-> perhaps, i could use stm32 to control the nuclear reaction :P 2016-03-08T04:49:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T04:52:29 < owl-v-> 1960s tech... which one is better to use? avr or pic ? 2016-03-08T04:52:52 < dongs> z80 2016-03-08T04:53:48 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/zilog/Z84C0006PEG/269-3892-ND/929204 2016-03-08T04:53:51 < dongs> you can still get them, too 2016-03-08T04:55:17 < dongs> i bet 2016-03-08T04:56:15 < dongs> it has no flash bro 2016-03-08T04:56:19 < dongs> thats why it has A/D bus 2016-03-08T04:56:26 < dongs> you stick ROM and RAM and shit on external bus 2016-03-08T04:56:30 < dongs> address+data 2016-03-08T04:56:56 < owl-v-> I have one 68hc11 but the toolchain is for Windows(which I do not have) Only 2016-03-08T04:57:06 < dongs> sorry to hear that 2016-03-08T04:57:13 < dongs> maybe you should uninstall communist lunix 2016-03-08T04:57:20 < dongs> and download your FREE copy of windows 10 2016-03-08T04:57:28 < dongs> or maybe use lunix to download win10 2016-03-08T04:57:32 < dongs> tho you might have trouble burning it 2016-03-08T04:57:39 < dongs> since lunix deosnt support DVD writers 2016-03-08T04:57:50 < dongs> R2COM: you can still downlaod iso for free 2016-03-08T04:57:55 < dongs> and use it for like 30 days. 2016-03-08T04:58:00 < dongs> then buy a key off ebay for $15 or someshit. 2016-03-08T04:58:04 < dongs> which is wat i did 2016-03-08T04:59:04 < dongs> R2COM: i bought a key off ebay, i dont care where it came from 2016-03-08T05:00:09 < dongs> i couldnt be arsed to plug in my win7 SSD back in 2016-03-08T05:00:12 < dongs> and upgrade to 10 2016-03-08T05:00:15 < dongs> (actually it was win8.1) 2016-03-08T05:00:21 < dongs> and then save the digital entitlement shit 2016-03-08T05:00:33 < dongs> no literally too lazy. 2016-03-08T05:00:38 < dongs> since ii nstalled 10 on a new drive 2016-03-08T05:00:49 < dongs> shrugging. 2016-03-08T05:00:55 < jadew> they work fine 2016-03-08T05:01:07 < dongs> i dont play games OR have steam installed. 2016-03-08T05:01:10 < dongs> and never will 2016-03-08T05:01:17 < dongs> becauase fuck gabe's spyware 2016-03-08T05:01:23 < jadew> you'll never play games? 2016-03-08T05:01:30 < dongs> jadew: no i'll never install steam 2016-03-08T05:01:34 < jadew> ah 2016-03-08T05:01:46 < dongs> jadew: i play a game once a year or something, usually something thats pirated from steam so I dont have to install it 2016-03-08T05:01:53 < jadew> I didn't like the idea either at first, but it's great for the simple fact that it keeps all your games together 2016-03-08T05:02:09 < dongs> i dont need some spyware to keep all my shit together. 2016-03-08T05:02:12 < jadew> I have a bunch of other games that I don't know where they are, where the license is or how to download them ever again 2016-03-08T05:02:23 < dongs> if I did play games they'd be all in d:\games or something but I dont evne have enough of that to care about organizing 2016-03-08T05:02:56 < dongs> currently im playing game of: load dicknplace with fucktarded data 2016-03-08T05:03:10 < dongs> almost beat it tho 2016-03-08T05:03:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T05:03:39 < owl-v-> I don't have linux at the moment. I have a proud American APPLE computer. 2016-03-08T05:04:42 < dongs> < owl-v-> I don't have linux at the moment. I have a proud American APPLE computer. 2016-03-08T05:04:49 < dongs> holy fuck you should kill yourself. 2016-03-08T05:05:03 < jadew> pretty sure they're made in china 2016-03-08T05:05:20 < jadew> or some other asian country 2016-03-08T05:06:15 < jadew> R2COM, yeah, unless governments will start subsidizing the industry hard 2016-03-08T05:06:27 < jadew> because there's no way for other countries to be competitive anymore 2016-03-08T05:07:11 < jadew> R2COM, there's no other way to kickstart such an economy 2016-03-08T05:07:26 < jadew> you can't manufacture at competing prices 2016-03-08T05:07:31 < jadew> so you can't get the industry going 2016-03-08T05:07:45 < jadew> because nobody will want to suffer the initial costs 2016-03-08T05:07:55 < jadew> so if no company wants to do it, the government has to 2016-03-08T05:08:42 < jadew> R2COM, the problem is that if you leave the market free, china & co will maintain monopoly for ever 2016-03-08T05:08:47 < jadew> because you can't compete with them 2016-03-08T05:08:53 < jadew> they already have the infrastructure 2016-03-08T05:09:04 < jadew> so you can't start making shit at the same price they do 2016-03-08T05:09:29 < jadew> R2COM, if it was possible, people would be doing it already 2016-03-08T05:09:34 < jadew> but it's not happening 2016-03-08T05:09:43 < jadew> consider it yourself, would you be able to do it? 2016-03-08T05:09:45 < jadew> I think not 2016-03-08T05:09:53 < jadew> because 1) machines cost money. 2) taxes. 2016-03-08T05:11:04 < jadew> in the manufacturing department it wouldn't matter 2016-03-08T05:11:24 < jadew> because companies go where it's cheaper 2016-03-08T05:11:27 < jadew> same with labor 2016-03-08T05:11:51 < owl-v-> you need to form a corporation 2016-03-08T05:11:54 < jadew> a country competes for investors (companies) with other countries 2016-03-08T05:12:53 < jadew> R2COM, that guy's dying business can create more money in your pocket 2016-03-08T05:12:55 < jadew> that's the thing 2016-03-08T05:13:08 < jadew> if you don't produce any value, then your money is worth shit 2016-03-08T05:14:09 < jadew> most people don't, because most value is in actual production and that's in china 2016-03-08T05:15:27 < jadew> this wouldn't be some some cheap ass let's feed those who don't feel like working 2016-03-08T05:16:04 < jadew> this would be, "ok folks, looks like we're not producing anything, let's make it so it's worth for companies to produce here" 2016-03-08T05:16:17 < jadew> because yes, this is capitalism 2016-03-08T05:16:34 < jadew> if you can't attract companies, they don't use you 2016-03-08T05:16:55 < jadew> how would you see this happening then? 2016-03-08T05:17:34 < jadew> what would compell you to pay $20 for a PCB, when you can pay $3? 2016-03-08T05:17:54 < jadew> R2COM, that's not a solution 2016-03-08T05:18:04 < jadew> that just means that the majority of the production will still happen in china 2016-03-08T05:18:18 < jadew> because 1) why take a loan 2016-03-08T05:18:21 < jadew> and that's a bout it 2016-03-08T05:18:56 < jadew> the point is that you're wasting money on a production line, when you can just rent one in china 2016-03-08T05:19:08 < jadew> and you don't have to deal with managing people 2016-03-08T05:19:29 < jadew> or any maintainance related issues 2016-03-08T05:19:38 < jadew> R2COM, even if you are 2016-03-08T05:19:47 < jadew> the math says "don't do it" 2016-03-08T05:20:23 < jadew> no, it means that you, as a company are going for the best manufacturing option 2016-03-08T05:20:29 < jadew> there's no point in wasting money 2016-03-08T05:20:35 < jadew> if you can get it done just as good and faster in china 2016-03-08T05:20:47 < jadew> the company doesn't die 2016-03-08T05:21:06 < jadew> but it won't use local resources 2016-03-08T05:21:42 < jadew> the problem is that the economy of the country has to suffer 2016-03-08T05:21:47 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T05:21:58 < jadew> that's perfectly normal 2016-03-08T05:22:10 < jadew> and that's the point 2016-03-08T05:22:21 < jadew> companies don't care about the country so they won't do those changes themselves 2016-03-08T05:22:24 < jadew> they don't give a shit 2016-03-08T05:22:34 < jadew> but it's the governments responsibility to keep the economy going 2016-03-08T05:22:38 < jadew> yes 2016-03-08T05:24:13 < dongs> sound advice from R2COM. do less assburgering on irc 2016-03-08T05:24:20 < jadew> people from A should say ok, let's get together and build better assembly lines, right? 2016-03-08T05:24:36 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T05:24:39 < jadew> well, turns out they already did that, they formed governments 2016-03-08T05:25:02 < jadew> that's the purpose of the government 2016-03-08T05:25:25 < jadew> that's how you run a country, you have some money to invest, you invest it in making sure there's more money comming in 2016-03-08T05:25:36 < jadew> yeah, in order to do that you need money 2016-03-08T05:25:46 < owl-v-> for force... 2016-03-08T05:25:52 < jadew> yes, and taxes come from? 2016-03-08T05:25:55 < jadew> companies 2016-03-08T05:26:04 < jadew> which are paying the chinese, not the local population 2016-03-08T05:26:54 < jadew> I'm not talking about USA specifically 2016-03-08T05:27:11 < jadew> I don't know how well the USA is doing, but most countries seem to be in this situation 2016-03-08T05:27:17 < jadew> they stopped producing 2016-03-08T05:27:44 < jadew> and the asian countries have such a good infrastructure, it's close to impossible to start competing with them 2016-03-08T05:28:01 < owl-v-> plz help locals ... 2016-03-08T05:28:05 < jadew> R2COM, come on dude... went over this 2016-03-08T05:28:11 < jadew> you can't start small locally 2016-03-08T05:28:20 < jadew> no you can't 2016-03-08T05:28:34 < jadew> because asia comes with the same product at 1/10 the price 2016-03-08T05:29:52 < jadew> that's because china has an amazing economy 2016-03-08T05:30:05 < jadew> not in small part fueled by the cheap labor 2016-03-08T05:30:43 < jadew> of course not, because they have cheap labor and a head start 2016-03-08T05:30:47 < jadew> they already have the infrastructure 2016-03-08T05:31:09 < jadew> they don't need to spend billions anymore to start $10k project 2016-03-08T05:32:11 < jadew> sure you do, because otherwise it will cost 10 times what it costs to produce in asia 2016-03-08T05:32:45 < jadew> and then we're getting back to basic economy, if it's cheaper there, it's going to be built there 2016-03-08T05:33:21 < jadew> and again, the reason it's cheaper there is because 1) cheap laber and 2) they already have the infrastructure 2016-03-08T05:33:25 < jadew> nobody else has this 2016-03-08T05:33:46 < jadew> anyway, I'm really curious what will happen in the future 2016-03-08T05:33:57 < jadew> well, odds are that the ballance will tip eventually 2016-03-08T05:34:10 < jadew> and everyone else's sallaries will plummet 2016-03-08T05:34:47 < jadew> ? 2016-03-08T05:35:48 < jadew> my point is that when you're not producing value, you can't sustain high sallaries 2016-03-08T05:35:58 < jadew> I'm producing value 2016-03-08T05:36:01 < jadew> I'm not in danger 2016-03-08T05:36:04 < jadew> but most people don't 2016-03-08T05:36:09 < jadew> they push papers 2016-03-08T05:36:11 < jadew> or whatever 2016-03-08T05:37:00 < dongs> Japan is quickly becoming one of the oldest countries in the world — the sales of adult diapers have outpaced the sales of baby diapers since 2011. 2016-03-08T05:38:56 < jadew> R2COM, my income depends on how much I can be paid, that in turn depends on how much everyone else is able to buy 2016-03-08T05:39:07 < jadew> if everyone is poor, I'm poor 2016-03-08T05:39:23 < jadew> if everyone is poor, those companies that produced in china will sist to exist 2016-03-08T05:40:43 < jadew> this is a worldwide issue 2016-03-08T05:41:41 < jadew> R2COM, the point is that if you get to that point, then society has failed 2016-03-08T05:43:20 < jadew> you're advocating that governments shouldn't mess with this. I think it's their responsibility, but I'm not sure if they can make any difference anymore 2016-03-08T05:44:21 < jadew> I'm not complaining 2016-03-08T05:44:30 < jadew> just discussing it 2016-03-08T05:44:40 < jadew> the reality is that in civilized countries people who do nothing earn $2000+/mo, while in asia they work their ass off for $200 2016-03-08T05:44:57 < jadew> even if governments wanted to bring in investors, they wouldn't be able to 2016-03-08T05:45:31 < jadew> I guess that's why we haven't seen any attempts at doing this yet 2016-03-08T05:45:41 < jadew> this can only be don when everyone is poor 2016-03-08T05:45:54 < jadew> (I suppose it could be done in Romania) 2016-03-08T05:46:04 < jadew> but we're too stupid 2016-03-08T05:48:03 < jadew> those are different issues 2016-03-08T05:48:24 < jadew> first, I don't think there's reason for war in civilized countries, they can be conquered economically 2016-03-08T05:48:56 < jadew> second of all, the refugees crisis has yet to come to a conclusion 2016-03-08T05:49:16 < jadew> I'm sure there's something we're not seeing behind it 2016-03-08T05:52:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a55a:4e89:7d34:7dd8] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T05:58:19 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T06:00:51 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T06:01:20 < dongs> flycack, why do you even bother buying shit you cant use 2016-03-08T06:08:09 < Streaker> What do you get for 40$ - one replacement bit ? 2016-03-08T06:08:39 < dongs> maybe just a jewbinstein sticker 2016-03-08T06:10:18 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T06:15:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-08T06:17:11 < dongs> k dicknplace running 2016-03-08T06:17:14 < dongs> now i can freelance for a bit 2016-03-08T06:17:48 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/MCU-programming-use-XMOS-tools/ 2016-03-08T06:17:51 < dongs> HUH 2016-03-08T06:17:52 < dongs> er, huh. some jap 2016-03-08T06:18:05 < dongs> but why the fuck python!? or xmos 2016-03-08T06:18:06 < dongs> LOl 2016-03-08T06:18:23 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uurpuxxuybzlhfbp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-08T06:20:06 < owl-v-> xmos -> audio signal processing 2016-03-08T06:20:54 < dongs> no 2016-03-08T06:20:57 < dongs> xmos = dumb hype 2016-03-08T06:21:08 < dongs> there's zero reason to use anything xmos, ever. 2016-03-08T06:21:45 < owl-v-> or it just need some fast sampling rate.. like propeller from parallax. 2016-03-08T06:22:05 < dongs> .. lol. 2016-03-08T06:27:11 < dongs> shit nobody uses 2016-03-08T06:35:21 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-08T06:38:43 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T06:38:49 -!- 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something and solder joints look like trash 2016-03-08T08:14:08 < dongs> and it almost like the hasl coating has anti-surface-tention properties 2016-03-08T08:14:17 < dongs> instead of acutally helping to center the parts, it fucks them up 2016-03-08T08:14:28 < dongs> pretty awful shit overall. fuck china. 2016-03-08T08:30:10 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T08:30:24 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@27-33-130-166.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-08T08:36:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-08T08:36:39 < dongs> nice 2016-03-08T08:36:46 < dongs> got fixed dicknplace.exe 2016-03-08T08:38:14 < jpa-> does it now place the dicks at double speed? 2016-03-08T08:38:30 < dongs> nah it was a shitty edgecase in loading data that triggered stuff. 2016-03-08T08:39:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-08T08:40:58 -!- sterna 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maybe they're gonna tell me they'll send me my parts in 2 months 2016-03-08T09:12:03 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T09:18:31 < dongs> haha 2016-03-08T09:19:37 < dongs> so i have 3 weeks ago order from avnet 2016-03-08T09:20:01 < dongs> wiht "up to 8 weeks lead time" 2016-03-08T09:20:09 < dongs> and these lazy japs just sent me a quote wiht "4-8 weeks leadtime" 2016-03-08T09:20:21 < dongs> avnet shit will likely arrive way earlier 2016-03-08T09:20:31 < dongs> i should probly just tell them to fuck off. 2016-03-08T09:24:25 < dongs> TuNeD WiTh SmD 2016-03-08T09:25:15 < dongs> the only thing I regret doing is not ordering avnet earlier 2016-03-08T09:25:22 < dongs> looks like I waited 4 days for japs to reply 2016-03-08T09:25:25 < dongs> shoulda known better. 2016-03-08T09:25:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-08T09:28:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.210] has 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2016-03-08T10:12:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T10:17:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-08T10:22:50 < dongs> fuk, i googled shitscale SoM last week for some fgt in here and now all the google ads I see are for that stupid $27 feescale thing from v-whatever company 2016-03-08T10:23:03 < dongs> how the fuck does adsense ever make any money 2016-03-08T10:23:12 < dongs> if they NEVER SHOW ME ANYTHING I ACTUALLY WANT 2016-03-08T10:23:23 < dongs> all the shit that shows up in ads is always AFTER i look at it 2016-03-08T10:25:54 < Emeryth> >ads on the internet 2016-03-08T10:28:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T10:28:56 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T10:30:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-08T10:39:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-08T10:44:44 < dongs> http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-xeon-e31200-v5-greenlow-family-launched-workstation-chips-incompatible-100series-desktop-chipsets/ 2016-03-08T10:44:47 < dongs> lol intel 2016-03-08T10:44:54 < dongs> s. If any one does try fit a Xeon chip inside their Z170 motherboard, then the processor will determine an invalid combination and the platform will simply not boot. 2016-03-08T10:45:18 < dongs> RIP running my old E3-v3 xeon in consumer board 2016-03-08T10:47:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T10:47:43 < zyp> heh 2016-03-08T10:48:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T10:49:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T10:51:22 < dongs> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9848/image_id_1536391_575px.jpeg -> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9848/Copy%20of%20Z170OCF_4.2G_G4400%20CPU_575px.JPG 2016-03-08T10:51:26 < dongs> lol what a waste 2016-03-08T10:51:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-08T10:52:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T10:53:45 < dongs> liquid dick just to overclock a piece of shit 100->127mhz 2016-03-08T10:53:47 < dongs> how useless 2016-03-08T10:54:03 < dongs> 3.3ghz->4191 2016-03-08T10:54:13 < lorenzo> what 2016-03-08T10:54:20 < lorenzo> people still overclock their pentium IIIs? 2016-03-08T10:54:33 < dongs> why the fuck even over clock in 2016 2016-03-08T10:54:39 < dongs> just buy a fucking thing thats rated at 4.2ghz 2016-03-08T10:54:54 < dongs> by the time you spend $$$$ on a fucking water/whatever cooler you can just buy a new processor 2016-03-08T10:54:58 < lorenzo> or write your application better 2016-03-08T10:55:00 < dongs> THAT LOGIC 2016-03-08T10:55:14 < Emeryth> it's about sticking it to the man 2016-03-08T10:55:23 < PeterM> overclocking is only viable when you already have best cpu/vga and need more 2016-03-08T10:55:24 < dongs> ASRock forwarded me images saying that on their Z170 OC Formula, they can successfully adjust the base clock of the Pentium G4400 by 20+%, the Core i3-6300T by 20% and the i5-6600 by over 30%. 2016-03-08T10:55:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T10:55:28 < dongs> haha pentium G4400 2016-03-08T10:55:33 < dongs> isnt that shit liek $30 2016-03-08T10:56:00 < dongs> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117625 2016-03-08T10:56:02 < dongs> close 2016-03-08T10:56:05 < dongs> $65 2016-03-08T10:56:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T10:56:31 < lorenzo> who buys that crap 2016-03-08T10:56:32 < lorenzo> 3MB L3 Cache 2016-03-08T10:56:36 < lorenzo> my laptop from 2011 has more 2016-03-08T10:56:49 < dongs> Cons: seems a bit slow .But its only a dual core Pentium 2016-03-08T10:57:02 < lorenzo> are Celerons still around? 2016-03-08T10:57:05 < dongs> yea sure 2016-03-08T10:57:22 < PeterM> intel celery 2016-03-08T10:57:29 < PeterM> it's mosstly water 2016-03-08T10:57:32 < dongs> i think the cheapass pentium-something is teh new celewrong stuff 2016-03-08T10:57:58 < dongs> http://ark.intel.com/products/91534/Intel-Celeron-Processor-J3060-2M-Cache-up-to-2_48-GHz 2016-03-08T10:58:05 < dongs> never mind, even celeron brand still there 2016-03-08T10:58:11 < lorenzo> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116974&cm_re=intel_celeron-_-19-116-974-_-Product 2016-03-08T10:58:14 < lorenzo> yep 2016-03-08T10:58:21 < dongs> thats haswdll 2016-03-08T10:58:29 < dongs> the shit i linked is actually kikelake 2016-03-08T10:58:36 < lorenzo> - Supports virtualization in hardware - very useful 2016-03-08T10:58:47 < lorenzo> Pros: it is so slow when you first start up your pc 2016-03-08T10:58:48 < lorenzo> Cons: not fast at all 2016-03-08T10:58:49 < lorenzo> hahaha 2016-03-08T10:58:54 < dongs> haha 2016-03-08T10:59:15 < dongs> J3060 sounds like some embedded shit 2016-03-08T10:59:20 < dongs> they'er not even listing what socket its in 2016-03-08T10:59:33 < lorenzo> dongs: must be soldered on board like those newer atoms 2016-03-08T10:59:50 < dongs> http://ark.intel.com/products/90741/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G3900-2M-Cache-2_80-GHz 2016-03-08T10:59:53 < dongs> ah this is the proper one 2016-03-08T11:00:16 < lorenzo> TDP 51 W 2016-03-08T11:00:25 < lorenzo> quite a lot for what it delivers 2016-03-08T11:16:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T11:18:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T11:28:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.158.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T11:37:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T11:38:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T11:45:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.206] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T11:50:45 < karlp> dongs: you getting veriscite ads now as well? :) 2016-03-08T11:55:20 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-08T11:57:06 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-08T11:57:29 < dongs> its literally the only ads i see 2016-03-08T11:57:39 < dongs> talk about marketing failure 2016-03-08T11:58:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T11:59:34 < karlp> totally agree with you on adsense though 2016-03-08T11:59:44 < karlp> I get ads for weeks/months _after_ I found it some other way. 2016-03-08T11:59:49 < karlp> nothing before. 2016-03-08T11:59:55 < dongs> right 2016-03-08T12:00:12 < PeterM> heh, i get ads to buy asian brides, after i already bougth one 2016-03-08T12:00:19 < PeterM> coincidence, i think not 2016-03-08T12:00:35 < dongs> they just want you to buy more 2016-03-08T12:00:36 < dongs> which is OK 2016-03-08T12:01:48 < PeterM> yeah probs 2016-03-08T12:02:38 < dongs> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222045265828 2016-03-08T12:08:07 < dongs> does it? i didnt click that far 2016-03-08T12:09:14 < dongs> SIGN IN TO BREW 2016-03-08T12:09:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a55a:4e89:7d34:7dd8] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-08T12:14:12 -!- stukdev [~quassel@88-149-142-231.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T12:16:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-138.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-08T12:23:43 < dongs> haha 2016-03-08T12:23:48 < dongs> jap replied a couple hours later 2016-03-08T12:23:57 < dongs> after I told him avnet beat him to it 2016-03-08T12:24:56 < dongs> lets see wat he says 2016-03-08T12:25:12 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T12:25:26 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T12:25:31 < dongs> contentless reply 2016-03-08T12:25:32 < dongs> god damn 2016-03-08T12:25:37 < dongs> fuck japs and their retarded polite language. 2016-03-08T12:25:48 < dongs> he hasnt actualyl fucking said anything of value except that he's sorry (which hes not) 2016-03-08T12:26:14 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T12:28:56 < zyp> haha 2016-03-08T12:29:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T12:29:11 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T12:35:09 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-08T12:35:51 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T12:38:12 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-08T12:38:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T12:41:36 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/706185709481119745?ref_src=twsrc^tfw 2016-03-08T12:42:18 < dongs> wat 2016-03-08T12:42:46 < Laurenceb_> he "hacked" Tesla firmware 2016-03-08T12:42:55 < dongs> what is there to hack 2016-03-08T12:42:59 < dongs> tesla shit is nasty PIC garbage 2016-03-08T12:43:07 < dongs> written by newbs 2016-03-08T12:43:08 < Laurenceb_> lul really 2016-03-08T12:43:11 < Laurenceb_> lolling 2016-03-08T12:43:12 < dongs> yes 2016-03-08T12:43:18 < Laurenceb_> epic fail 2016-03-08T12:43:29 < dongs> pal was offered a job there and did a tour 2016-03-08T12:43:35 < dongs> then he noped the fuck out of there 2016-03-08T12:43:43 < dongs> when he saw how it was all staffed by newbs 2016-03-08T12:44:27 < Laurenceb_> thats how they manage to make it use 80W on "standby" 2016-03-08T12:48:06 < Laurenceb_> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8846103&cid=51654699 2016-03-08T12:48:41 < dongs> no worries for Laurenceb_ getting radiated 2016-03-08T12:51:18 < zyp> 80W for what? 2016-03-08T12:51:38 < dongs> sitting in your garage 2016-03-08T13:03:31 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-08T13:15:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-138.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T13:16:37 -!- jon1012 [~jon@194.79.141.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T13:16:37 -!- jon1012 [~jon@194.79.141.178] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-08T13:16:37 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T13:26:38 < kakimir> hello uncles 2016-03-08T13:35:33 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T13:36:56 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T13:40:14 < kakimir> creating 3d model for kikecad 2016-03-08T13:41:13 < dongs> lol. 2016-03-08T13:41:24 < dongs> autismir: http://www.3dcontentcentral.com/ 2016-03-08T13:43:05 < kakimir> why would I use that crap when there is one download wide packs 2016-03-08T13:43:11 < dongs> wot 2016-03-08T13:43:23 < kakimir> btw. having all that 2016-03-08T13:43:59 < kakimir> I have special inductor 2016-03-08T13:44:06 < kakimir> AGP2923 2016-03-08T13:44:17 < kakimir> I need model for it to make 3d look more beefy 2016-03-08T13:44:27 < dongs> bwahah 2016-03-08T13:44:31 < dongs> coilcrap just links 2016-03-08T13:44:33 < dongs> to 3dmodelcentral 2016-03-08T13:44:38 < dongs> http://www.3dcontentcentral.com/Search.aspx?arg=coilcraft%20agp2923 2016-03-08T13:44:40 < dongs> but it is there. 2016-03-08T13:44:41 < dongs> so. 2016-03-08T13:44:45 < dongs> just fucking use it. 2016-03-08T13:44:53 < kakimir> sweet 2016-03-08T13:44:59 < kakimir> thanks uncle dongle 2016-03-08T13:45:14 < dongs> protip: next time just goto coilcraft page 2016-03-08T13:45:17 < dongs> and click "3d model" link. 2016-03-08T13:45:19 < dongs> http://www.coilcraft.com/agp2923.cfm 2016-03-08T13:46:08 < kakimir> login required 2016-03-08T13:46:21 < kakimir> do I need to be some sort of customer? 2016-03-08T13:46:58 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-08T13:47:05 < kakimir> what else is there? 2016-03-08T13:47:07 < kakimir> everything? 2016-03-08T13:48:32 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-08T13:48:51 < kakimir> they would like to collect all my personal information 2016-03-08T13:49:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T13:49:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-138.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-08T13:49:41 < kakimir> even my prone number 2016-03-08T13:50:23 < kakimir> what samples dassault would propably give me? 2016-03-08T13:53:10 < kakimir> can you get that 3d content central to integrate into your altidongs? 2016-03-08T13:55:10 < kakimir> I hope it's not in some shit ass format 2016-03-08T13:55:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T13:55:44 < kakimir> my god 2016-03-08T13:55:58 < kakimir> this page actually creates any format you wish 2016-03-08T13:56:31 < kakimir> kikecad uses web format 2016-03-08T13:56:36 < kakimir> .wrt 2016-03-08T13:57:16 < kakimir> that is how it should be 2016-03-08T13:57:27 < kakimir> when stuff never usually is 2016-03-08T13:58:04 < kakimir> no shitty tools installations needed 2016-03-08T13:58:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T13:59:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:03:20 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-138.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:05:13 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-08T14:05:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T14:07:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:13:53 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@tkoskine.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-08T14:15:43 < kakimir> can't get it visible 2016-03-08T14:16:34 < kakimir> I need to scale it up 2016-03-08T14:16:47 < kakimir> they have done horrible job 2016-03-08T14:19:50 < kakimir> such a waste of time 2016-03-08T14:23:01 < kakimir> good job crt 2016-03-08T14:23:26 < kakimir> keep it going 2016-03-08T14:25:32 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-152-171.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T14:27:01 < kakimir> for inductor stuff 2016-03-08T14:27:21 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T14:28:03 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:29:37 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:30:18 < Laurenceb> you can use freecad to convert 2016-03-08T14:30:18 -!- DanteA [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T14:30:24 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:30:28 < Laurenceb> but not to wrt cuz wtf is that 2016-03-08T14:30:51 < kakimir> web concertum stuff? 2016-03-08T14:31:47 < kakimir> like the try to be universal formats of stuff 2016-03-08T14:33:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T14:35:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:36:19 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-08T14:37:59 < dongs> did kikemir fix his shitty 3d model yet 2016-03-08T14:39:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T14:43:09 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/7NHDr7i.gif 2016-03-08T14:43:56 < kakimir> let me install some viewers and shiet dongs 2016-03-08T14:44:18 < kakimir> with blender I would be already done 2016-03-08T14:46:39 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.53] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-08T14:49:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:52:10 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/kvGmv3c 2016-03-08T14:52:23 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@148.60.142.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T14:52:24 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@148.60.142.11] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-08T14:53:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T14:56:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:01:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:04:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:08:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:09:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:11:56 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:13:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:14:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:22:13 < MightyPork> can CM4 (F3) do LDREXD ? (the double word variant) 2016-03-08T15:22:19 < MightyPork> kinda confusing dox 2016-03-08T15:23:54 < karlp> which doc are you referring to, and what is the context? 2016-03-08T15:24:15 < MightyPork> some awful page on arm infocenter 2016-03-08T15:24:32 < MightyPork> context is I need to store mutex locked state, and lock timestamp, atomically 2016-03-08T15:25:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:25:53 < karlp> what page? 2016-03-08T15:26:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:26:09 < karlp> I mean, you found the insruction... 2016-03-08T15:26:37 < MightyPork> yea but it sayd thumb2 can do it 2016-03-08T15:26:41 < karlp> and? 2016-03-08T15:26:46 < MightyPork> now I found page that says M can't 2016-03-08T15:26:51 < MightyPork> so I guess thats it 2016-03-08T15:26:54 < karlp> what page? 2016-03-08T15:27:29 < MightyPork> http://www.design-reuse.com/articles/26106/cortex-r-versus-cortex-m.html 2016-03-08T15:27:39 < karlp> that's not a page on arm infocenter 2016-03-08T15:27:48 < MightyPork> yea thats the page you asked me for "what page" 2016-03-08T15:27:54 < MightyPork> I closed the tab... 2016-03-08T15:28:01 < MightyPork> just typed ldrexd in google 2016-03-08T15:28:35 < karlp> locm3 uses ldrex, and if you've got the lock, you can write more write? you just want to have a bigger lock, keep the timestamp at the same time? 2016-03-08T15:29:03 < MightyPork> kind of, yea 2016-03-08T15:29:37 < MightyPork> problem is my timestamp is 32 bit. so I either discard the lowest bit and use it for the lock state, or will need some ugly hack 2016-03-08T15:29:53 < MightyPork> tried a struct with guard mutex, but realized it isn't safe at all 2016-03-08T15:30:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:30:31 < MightyPork> the general idea is to do auto-expiring mutex 2016-03-08T15:30:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:31:09 < karlp> as in, "I want locks, but I fucked up using them, so I want them to unlock automatically so i don't hve to worry about working out where my locks are fucked" ? 2016-03-08T15:31:31 < MightyPork> yep, kind of 2016-03-08T15:31:40 < MightyPork> because watchdog won't catch this sort of thing 2016-03-08T15:31:45 < MightyPork> this would be "self-healing" 2016-03-08T15:31:57 < karlp> yeah, I can see the appeal :) 2016-03-08T15:32:10 < karlp> not needing locks works too... 2016-03-08T15:32:36 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:32:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T15:33:26 < MightyPork> yea well I'm doing some sampling with DMA 2016-03-08T15:33:39 < MightyPork> can't just sit in a busy loop until it completes 2016-03-08T15:34:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:34:25 < MightyPork> so I'm locking the "acquisition subsystem" until it's done 2016-03-08T15:35:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:35:25 < Laurenceb> are you writing this in asm or c? 2016-03-08T15:35:41 < MightyPork> doesn't really make a difference, does it? 2016-03-08T15:35:48 < MightyPork> the LDREX is inline asm anyway 2016-03-08T15:35:52 < Laurenceb> I guess not.. seems overcomplex 2016-03-08T15:35:59 < Laurenceb> cant you interrupt on data ready? 2016-03-08T15:36:04 < MightyPork> I do 2016-03-08T15:36:27 < Laurenceb> so whats the problem, use transfer complete and half transfer complete 2016-03-08T15:36:30 < kakimir> fukken hell they have even normals wron way around 2016-03-08T15:36:30 < MightyPork> I could probably just don't worry about mutex and use a simple boolean 2016-03-08T15:37:25 < MightyPork> Laurenceb: problem is when someone wants to do the DMA and it's already in progress or something 2016-03-08T15:37:44 < Laurenceb> oh you need resource management? 2016-03-08T15:37:56 < MightyPork> of course, thats the idea 2016-03-08T15:38:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:38:04 < Laurenceb> ok I see why its tricky :P 2016-03-08T15:38:08 < MightyPork> it's fairly async already, with event queue and suck 2016-03-08T15:38:14 < MightyPork> *such 2016-03-08T15:38:16 < MightyPork> but suck too 2016-03-08T15:38:21 < Laurenceb> maybe a task queue with callback functions or something? 2016-03-08T15:38:31 < MightyPork> yep thats already there too 2016-03-08T15:38:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:38:44 < Laurenceb> are you using an RTOS? 2016-03-08T15:38:49 < MightyPork> I'm probably doing it all wrong idk 2016-03-08T15:38:52 < MightyPork> no, I'm not 2016-03-08T15:38:58 < Laurenceb> interrupts? 2016-03-08T15:39:00 < zyp> MightyPork, are you sure ldrex does what you want to? 2016-03-08T15:39:07 < MightyPork> yes 2016-03-08T15:39:18 < zyp> which is what? 2016-03-08T15:39:42 < zyp> also, you're correct in that cortex-m only supports ldrexb and ldrexh 2016-03-08T15:39:43 < MightyPork> exclusive read, then exclusive store, check for success 2016-03-08T15:39:53 < MightyPork> pretty sure this part is right 2016-03-08T15:40:05 < MightyPork> I'm probably over-complicating things as usual 2016-03-08T15:40:16 < zyp> yeah, it's a part of an atomic read-modify-write pattern 2016-03-08T15:40:23 < MightyPork> orly 2016-03-08T15:40:27 < zyp> why do you want to do a 32-bit RMW? 2016-03-08T15:40:42 < MightyPork> mutex what else 2016-03-08T15:40:46 < MightyPork> read a bit up 2016-03-08T15:41:07 < MightyPork> I mean I could do it per byte or half word, but it doesn't solve anything in my case 2016-03-08T15:41:11 < zyp> ah, timestamps 2016-03-08T15:41:20 < Laurenceb> I don't know what you want to do lol 2016-03-08T15:41:37 < Laurenceb> so there is a queue of DMA transactions with callbacks? 2016-03-08T15:41:51 < MightyPork> well not really 2016-03-08T15:41:54 < MightyPork> it's a task queue 2016-03-08T15:41:55 < Laurenceb> are the transactions always of set types? 2016-03-08T15:42:05 < Laurenceb> you could predefine them 2016-03-08T15:42:22 < zyp> fuck, now you have me wondering "how would I do an expiring mutex" 2016-03-08T15:42:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:43:04 < MightyPork> I got it all figurted out up to the unlocking 2016-03-08T15:43:07 < Laurenceb> mega lame way 2016-03-08T15:43:09 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32_Launcher/blob/master/i2c_int.c#252 2016-03-08T15:43:11 < MightyPork> then it fell to pieces 2016-03-08T15:43:25 < Laurenceb> just pre define the tasks then use a mask 2016-03-08T15:43:31 < Laurenceb> if there are less than 33 2016-03-08T15:43:41 < zyp> MightyPork, explicit unlock or expiry? 2016-03-08T15:43:49 < englishman> with bitbanding you dont even need to read before write! 2016-03-08T15:44:00 < MightyPork> explicit 2016-03-08T15:44:18 < MightyPork> cuz when someone's reading my mutex struct, I will fuck it up for them 2016-03-08T15:44:28 < zyp> can I see your code? 2016-03-08T15:44:52 < MightyPork> I guess. will have to fetch it from git, changed it a lot now 2016-03-08T15:44:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:45:18 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-08T15:45:30 < zyp> when I think about it, expiring mutex would be a really bad idea really 2016-03-08T15:46:22 < MightyPork> https://gist.github.com/MightyPork/b0182bde4b5da83475ab 2016-03-08T15:47:04 < zyp> if you fuck up your state enough that a mutex gets stuck locked then you'll probably have enough fucked up state after expiring the mutex that it'll fuck up anyway 2016-03-08T15:47:08 < MightyPork> Why I do it - if something somewhere gets borked, and the mutex stays locked, it'll stay in the bad state indefinitely 2016-03-08T15:47:19 < dongs> mightydong, what the fuck are you reinventing the wheel for? 2016-03-08T15:47:33 < zyp> MightyPork, better do a proper watchdog service then 2016-03-08T15:47:44 < Laurenceb> yeah just use chibios / whatever if you need this 2016-03-08T15:47:45 < MightyPork> I do have a watchdog 2016-03-08T15:47:49 < zyp> which checks that all parts of your system works before servicing the hardware watchdog 2016-03-08T15:47:50 < Laurenceb> this seems overkill 2016-03-08T15:48:14 < zyp> not much point in having a watchdog if you service it without checking that everything is ok 2016-03-08T15:48:15 < dongs> hmm. Way too many spaces. overkill: confirmed 2016-03-08T15:48:16 < MightyPork> not sure how I'd check that the parts work though 2016-03-08T15:48:21 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-03-08T15:48:38 < zyp> make a software watchdog that each thread have to report to 2016-03-08T15:48:50 < Laurenceb> sounds like a good idea 2016-03-08T15:49:01 < zyp> if not all modules have report in in time, don't service the hardware watchdog 2016-03-08T15:49:07 < MightyPork> but I have just one thread 2016-03-08T15:49:14 < zyp> wat 2016-03-08T15:49:15 < MightyPork> that handles the events 2016-03-08T15:49:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:49:26 < MightyPork> theres a polling loop that serves all events 2016-03-08T15:49:26 < zyp> why the fuck do you have mutexes in a singlethreaded environment? 2016-03-08T15:49:49 < MightyPork> well its not all that single threaded really 2016-03-08T15:49:53 < MightyPork> cuz interurpts 2016-03-08T15:50:15 < karlp> yar, if your watchdog doesn't catch a locked mutex, your watchdog isn't a watchdog 2016-03-08T15:50:17 < Laurenceb> I'm confused 2016-03-08T15:50:33 < Laurenceb> I write interrupt stuff like this all the time and never have issues 2016-03-08T15:50:41 < Laurenceb> why so complex 2016-03-08T15:50:48 < MightyPork> as I said, I'm overcomplicating things 2016-03-08T15:51:01 < MightyPork> trying to make it realiable 2016-03-08T15:51:07 < Laurenceb> draw all the dataflow on paper 2016-03-08T15:51:25 < Laurenceb> try to avoid crazy spaghetti shit 2016-03-08T15:51:26 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:52:01 < Laurenceb> if you need RTOS grab Chibi/FreeRTOS and use the built in shit, simples 2016-03-08T15:52:37 < MightyPork> might end up with that.. I've already kinda copied the queues from it 2016-03-08T15:52:51 < karlp> that didn't smell bad to you? :) 2016-03-08T15:53:03 < MightyPork> just the idea, not ctrl c ctrl v :P 2016-03-08T15:53:12 < qyx> uh 2016-03-08T15:53:24 < karlp> "let's copy the ideas, but not the code, so we can introduce our own bugs!" 2016-03-08T15:54:39 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T15:55:12 < MightyPork> hmmm okay guess the expiring mutex was doomed to fail from the beginning 2016-03-08T15:55:20 < MightyPork> gonna delete that 2016-03-08T15:56:13 < karlp> got dip switches? https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/2874211408524901621.jpeg 2016-03-08T15:57:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T15:59:10 < Laurenceb> why does that exist 2016-03-08T15:59:45 < karlp> because china happily made it for him. 2016-03-08T16:00:06 < karlp> some "smart aquaponics" thing http://www.kijanigrows.com/ 2016-03-08T16:00:13 < karlp> I was looking at some of the software he'd used, 2016-03-08T16:00:31 < karlp> parsing json with regexps in python.... clever 2016-03-08T16:02:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.28] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T16:02:58 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T16:03:09 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-08T16:06:42 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T16:25:24 < Laurenceb> this is comedy gold http://phg.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/01/08/0309132515623368.full.pdf 2016-03-08T16:25:39 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T16:26:14 < dongs> wow 2016-03-08T16:26:20 < dongs> New!! STM8 free tools with no limits + STM32 free tools up to 32k 2016-03-08T16:26:21 < dongs> Starting March 2016, the popular STM8 compiler becomes free with no technical limitations and also includes a toolchain for the STM32 limited to 32k. 2016-03-08T16:26:24 < dongs> YAY! 2016-03-08T16:26:26 < dongs> Limited to one year, renewable, support included (stm8 only), requires (free) registration. 2016-03-08T16:26:30 < dongs> cosmic stm8 shit is free now 2016-03-08T16:26:37 < Laurenceb> eww dat nastness 2016-03-08T16:26:41 < dongs> works gr8 2016-03-08T16:26:58 < Laurenceb> epistemologies in dynamic social-ecological systems, thereby leading to more just and equitable 2016-03-08T16:26:58 < Laurenceb> science and human-ice interactions 2016-03-08T16:32:12 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T16:36:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-08T16:44:50 < englishman> cool 2016-03-08T16:44:56 < englishman> no excuses for using avr in 2016 anymore 2016-03-08T16:46:18 < englishman> Through a review and synthesis of a 2016-03-08T16:46:18 < englishman> multi-disciplinary and wide-ranging literature 2016-03-08T16:46:18 < englishman> on human-ice relations, this paper proposes a 2016-03-08T16:46:18 < englishman> feminist glaciology framework to analyze 2016-03-08T16:46:18 < englishman> human-glacier dynamics, 2016-03-08T16:46:38 < lorenzo> it must be one of those internal jokes 2016-03-08T16:46:38 < englishman> Laurenceb now identifies as genderqueericebergkin 2016-03-08T16:46:41 < lorenzo> like the signetics write only memory 2016-03-08T16:53:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T16:54:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-03-08T16:55:06 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T17:01:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T17:04:43 < kakimir> dongs: it's really bad idea to use those 3d models 2016-03-08T17:04:55 < dongs> go on 2016-03-08T17:04:56 < dongs> enlighten me 2016-03-08T17:05:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-138.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-08T17:05:26 -!- CRTT [~~@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T17:08:03 < kakimir> it's just a file shitted out of some program and then that site has it's shitty conversions to it 2016-03-08T17:12:31 < kakimir> I have waisted hours 2016-03-08T17:12:59 < dongs> no 2016-03-08T17:13:06 < dongs> you have wasted hours because you are trying to fit that shit into kikecad 2016-03-08T17:13:12 < dongs> it takes literally 5 seconds to stick a 3d model into altium 2016-03-08T17:13:14 < dongs> and it just works 2016-03-08T17:13:20 < dongs> and I dont need to care what software it was created in and shit 2016-03-08T17:13:23 < Sync_> it also just works in kicad 2016-03-08T17:13:36 < Sync_> at least for me 2016-03-08T17:14:50 < kakimir> try that one 2016-03-08T17:14:54 < kakimir> agp2923 2016-03-08T17:15:04 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-08T17:15:04 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T17:15:19 < Laurenceb> found SP1ML antenna http://www.mmc.co.jp/adv/dev/csv_pdf/appnote/antenna_applicationnote_01_en_A.pdf 2016-03-08T17:15:54 < BrainDamage> >high gain >omnidirectional 2016-03-08T17:15:55 < BrainDamage> wat 2016-03-08T17:15:57 < dongs> japs make antennas? 2016-03-08T17:15:58 < kakimir> dongs: what is the format for altium? 2016-03-08T17:16:09 < Sync_> not gonna make an account for a 3d model 2016-03-08T17:16:11 < dongs> kikemir, .stp 2016-03-08T17:17:42 < BrainDamage> today i learned -17dBi is high gain 2016-03-08T17:17:46 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-03-08T17:17:54 < Laurenceb> its pretty tunable 2016-03-08T17:18:11 < Sync_> BrainDamage: negative gain! 2016-03-08T17:18:13 < Sync_> still high! 2016-03-08T17:19:27 < englishman> pretty bad even for chiptenna 2016-03-08T17:19:35 < Sync_> ye 2016-03-08T17:19:35 < kakimir> Sync_: it also works fine even when you have no account? 2016-03-08T17:19:42 < Sync_> I cannot download it 2016-03-08T17:19:52 < kakimir> a sec 2016-03-08T17:20:13 < englishman> ah more like -0.2 2016-03-08T17:20:25 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T17:20:32 < kakimir> I do some illegal redistribution 2016-03-08T17:24:02 < kakimir> at least normals are flipped 2016-03-08T17:24:41 < kakimir> that is why this shit isn't visible 2016-03-08T17:24:49 < Laurenceb> well in rural terrain with 115200kbps throughput with FEC, SP1ML to SP1ML should be 1km range on average 2016-03-08T17:25:01 < kakimir> there is thing called backface culling 2016-03-08T17:25:03 < Laurenceb> with tx at 2m height and rx at 1.5m 2016-03-08T17:25:18 < Laurenceb> I call that pretty good 2016-03-08T17:25:24 < Laurenceb> much better than bluetooth 2016-03-08T17:25:26 < englishman> at what power and freq 2016-03-08T17:25:39 < Laurenceb> 7dBm, 869.85 2016-03-08T17:25:58 < Laurenceb> that ok for use throughout EU I think 2016-03-08T17:26:02 < englishman> gluck 2016-03-08T17:26:09 < BrainDamage> ah you're using at 870MHz band 2016-03-08T17:26:54 < englishman> 5mW 2016-03-08T17:27:27 < qyx> I like your computational capabilities Laurenceb 2016-03-08T17:27:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T17:28:27 < qyx> what about 433MHz, 100kbit/s GMSK BT=0.5, power = 1mW? 2016-03-08T17:28:50 < englishman> if you say the horses are RC vehicles you can use more power 2016-03-08T17:28:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T17:29:20 < qyx> btw 868MHz band aith 7dBm has some annoying duty cycle limits 2016-03-08T17:29:39 < qyx> 10% iirc 2016-03-08T17:37:26 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKQ0hFVWptSFNTZkE/view?usp=sharing dongs, it is so good 2016-03-08T17:37:36 < kakimir> not that it had like materials to it 2016-03-08T17:37:44 < kakimir> it is also inverted 2016-03-08T17:38:18 < kakimir> you site is garbage! 2016-03-08T17:38:27 -!- CRTT [~~@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T17:38:46 < zyp> in norway, Janne is a girls name 2016-03-08T17:38:59 < dongs> jesus christ you autistic fucking fuck 2016-03-08T17:39:40 < kakimir> zyp: pretty much everywhere 2016-03-08T17:40:20 < englishman> lol 2016-03-08T17:40:51 < dongs> kakimir: http://i.imgur.com/MzkHV0e.jpg 2016-03-08T17:40:54 < dongs> you stuipid fuck 2016-03-08T17:40:55 < dongs> there it is 2016-03-08T17:40:56 < dongs> loaded into altium 2016-03-08T17:41:03 < dongs> and working perfectly fine 2016-03-08T17:42:54 < kakimir> okay I need to give it one more try.. stp -> wrt conversion 2016-03-08T17:42:58 < kakimir> if there is a tool 2016-03-08T17:43:15 < dongs> the fuck is wrt 2016-03-08T17:43:16 < dongs> .wrl? 2016-03-08T17:43:22 < dongs> fucking vrml trash? 2016-03-08T17:43:24 < qyx> wtf are you doing 2016-03-08T17:43:26 < dongs> why do people even support that shit in 2016 2016-03-08T17:43:40 < dongs> it lacks basic shit that like any 3d model format should uspport 2016-03-08T17:43:55 < qyx> stp loads even in sketchpu and blender 2016-03-08T17:43:59 < qyx> apparently even in altitrash 2016-03-08T17:44:24 < dongs> ya, wrl 2016-03-08T17:44:25 < kakimir> .stl loads in blender 2016-03-08T17:44:27 < dongs> aids 2016-03-08T17:44:46 < dongs> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/186 2016-03-08T17:44:47 < dongs> lol 2016-03-08T17:45:13 < qyx> aha, stl then 2016-03-08T17:45:29 < dongs> I had to briefly deal wiht wrl 2016-03-08T17:45:33 < dongs> because thats what dicktrace wanted 2016-03-08T17:45:39 < dongs> and wings3d is awful 2016-03-08T17:45:50 < dongs> like it had no boolean ops 2016-03-08T17:45:53 < dongs> "because reasons" 2016-03-08T17:46:06 < dongs> and it had some retarded limitations on faces/triangles 2016-03-08T17:46:25 < dongs> like retarded to the point wehre I just shift-del'd it and used something else 2016-03-08T17:46:49 < kakimir> who uses wings3d 2016-03-08T17:46:53 < BrainDamage> the more time passes the more i think the relationship with cads is like stockholm syndrome 2016-03-08T17:47:17 < kakimir> I tried it and it seems even heavier than blender 2016-03-08T17:47:35 < kakimir> had noticeable delays to it 2016-03-08T17:55:31 < kakimir> sleep ragedong 2016-03-08T17:57:20 < kakimir> so step -> freecad -> kikecad is working 2016-03-08T18:02:13 < Laurenceb> qyx: later, my computer needs feeding 2016-03-08T18:04:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T18:11:31 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T18:11:46 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T18:11:48 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T18:17:57 < Laurenceb> btw 868MHz band aith 7dBm has some annoying duty cycle limits 2016-03-08T18:18:12 < Laurenceb> 869.85 is 100% if below 5mW power 2016-03-08T18:22:53 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-08T18:23:05 < Laurenceb> kakimir: freecad ftw 2016-03-08T18:26:12 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T18:29:52 < Laurenceb> qyx: SP1ML to SP1ML performance? 2016-03-08T18:31:11 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T18:31:34 < qyx> Laurenceb: yep 2016-03-08T18:31:44 < Laurenceb> its gunna be bad 2016-03-08T18:31:54 < Laurenceb> cuz that antenna sucks at 434 2016-03-08T18:32:32 < qyx> probably better than a random china-made coiled wire 2016-03-08T18:33:35 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-08T18:35:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T18:35:39 < Laurenceb> what height are the stations? 2016-03-08T18:36:29 < Laurenceb> ~2m ? 2016-03-08T18:37:31 < englishman> for 1km 2016-03-08T18:37:34 < englishman> over terrain 2016-03-08T18:37:35 < englishman> thru trees? 2016-03-08T18:37:38 < Laurenceb> for 1.5m and 2m I get 400 to 600m depending on terrain type 2016-03-08T18:38:01 < Laurenceb> 869.85 is considerably better due to the antenna performance 2016-03-08T18:38:20 < Laurenceb> thru trees is going to suck, I'm using rural and semi rural 2016-03-08T18:38:49 < englishman> and rolling english countryside 2016-03-08T18:39:28 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-08T18:40:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-08T18:41:54 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/kbO5j78.jpg 2016-03-08T18:41:57 < Laurenceb> lulpwnd 2016-03-08T18:43:18 < dongs> what is CSA 2016-03-08T18:43:31 < dongs> nvm, its right in teh fucking red box 2016-03-08T18:43:35 < dongs> too stoned, bedtime 2016-03-08T18:44:04 < Laurenceb> lol I'm banned from 4chan, hope I'm not on the list 2016-03-08T18:44:23 < Laurenceb> b& 4 life 2016-03-08T18:45:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T18:45:41 < Laurenceb> but thats for posting "faces of kitten death" 2016-03-08T18:45:59 < Laurenceb> the faces of death feline edition 2016-03-08T18:46:49 -!- DanteA_ [~xxx@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-08T18:50:33 < ReadError> Laurenceb that post is 6 years old 2016-03-08T18:50:52 < Laurenceb> prob accurate tho 2016-03-08T19:00:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T19:02:58 < kakimir> Laurenceb: I'm suprised of amount of suck freecad lacks for open sores 2016-03-08T19:03:05 < Laurenceb> exactly 2016-03-08T19:03:09 < Laurenceb> its actually useful 2016-03-08T19:06:50 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T19:08:34 -!- tkoskine 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2JE05 antenna 2016-03-08T19:25:21 < Laurenceb> looks very similar to me 2016-03-08T19:25:42 < Laurenceb> maybe slightly nicer PCB position on the corner like that 2016-03-08T19:27:44 < Laurenceb> http://phg.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/08/28/0309132513500373 2016-03-08T19:27:52 < Laurenceb> this entire journal seems to be troll 2016-03-08T19:27:53 < ReadError> still slow 2016-03-08T19:28:39 < Laurenceb> "will allow geographical research to engage within obesity/fatness more carefully" 2016-03-08T19:29:39 < BrainDamage> i'm more concerned about that open sores is becoming sjwsores 2016-03-08T19:29:40 < BrainDamage> https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md 2016-03-08T19:30:00 < BrainDamage> how is body size discrimination any concern in software development 2016-03-08T19:30:23 < Laurenceb> yeah thats nuts, I'm waiting to get chucked of github soon :P 2016-03-08T19:31:10 < Laurenceb> if I was designing something from scratch I'd seriously consider some sort of foil antenna in the casing 2016-03-08T19:31:46 < Laurenceb> the larger you can make an antenna the better, but it takes a lot of modelling first or you will be fumbling in the dark with your physical prototypes 2016-03-08T19:32:16 < BrainDamage> learn nec2 2016-03-08T19:32:25 < BrainDamage> then wither inside 2016-03-08T19:32:56 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-03-08T19:35:09 * Sync_ uninstalls YCM 2016-03-08T19:37:14 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@veraw241-126.wi-fi.upv.es] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T19:37:43 < BrainDamage> ( the sjw, i don't give a fuck, but it's gonna ineavitably start a fight where it'll be as usual trolls and extremist fighting, and in the result, even less development done ) 2016-03-08T19:38:22 < ReadError> hey 2016-03-08T19:38:28 < ReadError> whats that site that lets you measure images 2016-03-08T19:38:34 < ReadError> like if you have a known 2016-03-08T19:40:11 < Laurenceb> The idea the Trump will somehow end the derp is just herp. You don't out-derp derp with derp, you just double the amount of derp. Derp can neither be herped or derped 2016-03-08T19:42:49 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@m83-185-80-147.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T19:45:54 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@m83-185-80-147.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T20:02:53 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T20:06:07 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@8.213.107.89.in-addr.sungardas.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T20:06:31 -!- Peter is now known as Guest42993 2016-03-08T20:11:14 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T20:11:35 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T20:12:30 -!- Guest42993 [~PeterK2@8.213.107.89.in-addr.sungardas.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T20:23:20 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-08T20:25:49 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T20:25:49 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-08T20:37:50 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T20:42:01 -!- Guest42993 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T20:55:38 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T21:09:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T21:13:48 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T21:39:55 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-25-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T21:44:10 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKRkI5X3lud3dzWXc/view?usp=sharing nobody stops you using your per footprint model how you wish 2016-03-08T21:46:30 -!- DanteA [~xxx@host-25-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-08T21:47:44 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-08T21:48:19 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T21:52:34 < Steffanx> smamir? 2016-03-08T21:56:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-184-51.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T21:58:12 -!- serserar_ [~quassel@veraw241-126.wi-fi.upv.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-08T22:17:42 -!- Guest42993 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-08T22:20:09 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-140-80.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T22:20:13 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T22:34:29 < MightyPork> got a weird issue with flash programming. after flashing a program, it all fails. but after restart, all works ok 2016-03-08T22:35:00 < MightyPork> here's my code: https://gist.github.com/MightyPork/9b3706ccac25effa4420 2016-03-08T22:35:09 < MightyPork> any ideas whats up? 2016-03-08T22:37:42 < MightyPork> must be the stlink messing something up with the config 2016-03-08T23:13:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-08T23:21:28 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T23:21:51 -!- Peter is now known as Guest99300 2016-03-08T23:29:42 < trepidacious> MightyPork: I think I remember having some weird behaviour like that, but it was on changing flash protection level, not just plain flashing 2016-03-08T23:30:10 < trepidacious> In my case it wasn't really that important since you don't often change flash protection, so having to restart isn't a big problem 2016-03-08T23:34:39 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-08T23:35:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-08T23:35:19 < MightyPork> true. won't be using SWD normally. just kinda pain for the development 2016-03-08T23:38:23 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T23:38:44 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T23:39:15 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1457287885107.jpg 2016-03-08T23:39:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-08T23:48:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-08T23:57:08 < MightyPork> lolwut. watchdog breaks stlink upload ?? 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2016-03-09T00:57:22 < Laurenceb_> without using ADC noise 2016-03-09T00:57:43 < Laurenceb_> is rand() big? 2016-03-09T00:58:28 < Laurenceb_> flyback: CANCUCK 2016-03-09T01:01:21 < kakimir> what you are looking is the most inexpensive psuedorandom there is 2016-03-09T01:04:10 < kakimir> and serial number based seed 2016-03-09T01:04:26 < kakimir> or so 2016-03-09T01:05:20 < Laurenceb_> maybe time based 2016-03-09T01:08:26 < kakimir> what time? 2016-03-09T01:08:59 < Laurenceb_> system uptime 2016-03-09T01:10:21 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/tjvPDLe 2016-03-09T01:16:35 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-09T01:16:49 < Laurenceb_> #highaltitude has finally done something pro 2016-03-09T01:16:51 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/assets/flights/14/envelope_prestretch_2.jpg 2016-03-09T01:19:06 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/hab/flight/2016/03/07/ubseds14.html 2016-03-09T01:19:19 < Laurenceb_> seems to be holding pressure too, mad skillz 2016-03-09T01:22:45 < Laurenceb_> finally an end to "space balloons" with GoPro and raspberry pi 2016-03-09T01:26:01 < Laurenceb_> lul I'm faster than slashdot http://science.slashdot.org/story/16/03/08/2018245/reason-excoriates-paper-on-glaciers-gender-and-science 2016-03-09T01:32:24 < FatalNIX> Hey guys 2016-03-09T01:32:39 < FatalNIX> How hard do you think it would be to use my stm32 as a USB device for my computer? 2016-03-09T01:37:41 < FatalNIX> ah 2016-03-09T01:37:49 < FatalNIX> my stm32 has USB OTG with peripheral mode 2016-03-09T01:45:43 -!- Guest99300 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-09T01:50:12 < Laurenceb_> pro tronics and uber pro envelope 2016-03-09T01:50:47 < Laurenceb_> like this but mini http://hibiscus.projet.latmos.ipsl.fr/projet/HIBISCUS/images/test_BP_web.jpg 2016-03-09T01:55:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-09T01:55:50 < Laurenceb_> I bet they could make some nice pocket money selling those envelopes to CNES, JAXA etc 2016-03-09T01:57:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T02:06:33 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T02:15:43 < BrainDamage> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4035 last bit relevant for laurenceb 2016-03-09T02:16:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T02:29:54 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhLanIowzYQ&t=1s unravel the 90's vibe 2016-03-09T02:38:10 < Laurenceb_> my new favourite is Falcon 9 stage 1 to rotovator 2016-03-09T02:38:32 < Sync_> trsi <3 2016-03-09T02:38:34 < Laurenceb_> actually works with PBO fibre 2016-03-09T02:39:14 < Sync_> well, why not? 2016-03-09T02:39:43 < englishman> Laurenceb_: hasn't leobodnar done way cooler shit 2016-03-09T02:39:50 < Laurenceb_> englishman: no 2016-03-09T02:40:00 < Laurenceb_> thats 10 times more awesome than even Leo 2016-03-09T02:40:18 < Laurenceb_> he had lame sandwich cylinder envelope 2016-03-09T02:40:28 < Laurenceb_> and used an order of magnitude more power 2016-03-09T02:41:32 < Laurenceb_> Falcon 9 stage 1 to PBO based MEXER is actually doable 2016-03-09T02:41:57 < Laurenceb_> or MXER 2016-03-09T02:42:04 < Laurenceb_> http://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/pdf/115871main_MXER_TS.pdf 2016-03-09T02:42:23 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-09T02:43:14 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-y07QCc2TI 2016-03-09T02:47:54 < kakimir> okay I need my headphones repaired for that one 2016-03-09T02:48:57 < Laurenceb_> same guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDDnuZAL9ps 2016-03-09T02:49:05 < Laurenceb_> they made a video about my job 2016-03-09T02:49:59 < kakimir> they ridicule you 2016-03-09T02:50:18 < Laurenceb_> the 2D real world footage technique is epic 2016-03-09T02:50:35 < kakimir> reminds me of röyksopp old video 2016-03-09T02:50:52 < kakimir> "remind me" 2016-03-09T02:51:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-09T02:55:37 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBvaHZIrt0o 2016-03-09T02:55:39 < Laurenceb_> lol its the sims 2016-03-09T02:59:33 < aandrew> lol royskopp banned the video in canada 2016-03-09T03:02:55 < kakimir> so 2010 2016-03-09T03:03:04 < kakimir> everything was banned 2016-03-09T03:03:54 < Laurenceb_> ban all the things 2016-03-09T03:04:18 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUep-4v_M9k 2016-03-09T03:06:46 < kakimir> british south park? 2016-03-09T03:08:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-09T03:10:24 < Laurenceb_> lul thats one way to put it 2016-03-09T03:10:41 < Laurenceb_> I met David Firth once, pretty cool guy 2016-03-09T03:10:52 < Laurenceb_> tho a lot of his stuff is lame and generic 2016-03-09T03:11:45 < kakimir> do you know all cool brit people Laurenceb_ ? 2016-03-09T03:12:09 < Laurenceb_> maybe... haven't met Branson yet, but not sure he counts as cool 2016-03-09T03:13:31 < kakimir> how you end up meeting everybody? 2016-03-09T03:14:03 < Laurenceb_> I dunno... not living in a basement _all_ the time :P 2016-03-09T03:16:56 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T03:17:17 < kakimir> I met a dude that makes much more hardcore stuff than this david 2016-03-09T03:19:26 < kakimir> I will show you some day not before bedtime 2016-03-09T03:23:49 < kakimir> seriously it affected my psyche for a time 2016-03-09T03:24:35 < kakimir> deB> 2016-03-09T03:24:50 < Laurenceb_> cya 2016-03-09T03:28:07 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-09T03:30:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T03:30:35 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-09T03:33:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:7e00:162:61ea:a8de:1164] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-09T03:42:33 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-09T03:46:25 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10753052 2016-03-09T03:46:33 < Laurenceb_> spot the major n00b error? 2016-03-09T03:57:32 < Laurenceb_> (buffer overrun at line 15) 2016-03-09T03:57:41 < Laurenceb_> not my code, work perman00b code 2016-03-09T03:57:48 < Laurenceb_> sup 2016-03-09T03:57:57 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10753052 2016-03-09T04:02:05 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-09T04:03:04 -!- wbraun_ [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T04:03:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T04:06:23 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-7-108.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-09T04:06:23 -!- wbraun_ is now known as wbraun 2016-03-09T04:23:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T04:35:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-09T04:48:52 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-09T04:51:49 < dongs> those who collect cash from y ou will certainly give a shit 2016-03-09T04:52:11 < dongs> chek if "spectra logic design" is a patent troll company 2016-03-09T04:53:47 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvpJdNiqZJc duno if old 2016-03-09T04:56:41 < dongs> http://www.oregonlive.com/window-shop/index.ssf/2016/03/coolest_cooler_15_million.html#incart_river_index oopsie 2016-03-09T04:58:08 < englishman> rofl 2016-03-09T05:05:16 < aandrew> hahaha 2016-03-09T05:05:25 < aandrew> coolest cooler my ass 2016-03-09T05:06:14 < aandrew> In order to get a final quote from the factory, Coolest needed to supply it with all the engineering for all of the parts, he explained. And to do this, the company first needed to engineer and design all these parts. This process, plus building up the infrastructure to deliver the products, ended up costing the company "multiple millions" of dollars, he said. 2016-03-09T05:06:19 < aandrew> LOL 2016-03-09T05:06:55 < englishman> and some chinaman is grinning ear to ear 2016-03-09T05:07:15 < dongs> thats cuz they're idiots 2016-03-09T05:07:38 < dongs> http://techreport.com/news/29823/asrock-turns-to-an-external-clock-generator-for-bclk-overclocking 2016-03-09T05:07:42 < dongs> haha 2016-03-09T05:07:45 < dongs> "external base clock generator which provides a wider range of frequencies and more precise clock waveforms." 2016-03-09T05:07:48 < dongs> yaaa man 2016-03-09T05:07:50 < dongs> precise square wavez 2016-03-09T05:07:57 < dongs> much accuracy 2016-03-09T05:08:13 < dongs> fucking gamer trash 2016-03-09T05:09:03 < dongs> solid state inductors 2016-03-09T05:09:12 < dongs> (also sometimes jaspanese) 2016-03-09T05:09:17 < dongs> for even HIGHER quality 2016-03-09T05:09:34 < englishman> how are cpus clocked anyway 2016-03-09T05:09:53 < dongs> 4ghz over twisted pair 2016-03-09T05:09:55 < englishman> 30c 12MHz xtal and some 0402 8pf caps?? 2016-03-09T05:09:59 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-09T05:09:59 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-09T05:10:22 < dongs> o fuck 2016-03-09T05:10:26 < dongs> that asscrack thing comes with killer nic 2016-03-09T05:10:36 < dongs> another shitheap 2016-03-09T05:10:41 < dongs> its some lunix SoC 2016-03-09T05:10:45 < dongs> that they claim makes ping lower 2016-03-09T05:10:51 < englishman> haha 2016-03-09T05:11:19 < dongs> like it is ethernet chip but its running lunix. 2016-03-09T05:11:28 < dongs> wiht all the fail that this would mean 2016-03-09T05:11:49 < englishman> like an oscilloscope that runs windows 2016-03-09T05:12:08 < dongs> nice try trolling bro 2016-03-09T05:12:18 < dongs> nothin wrong wiht scope running windows 2016-03-09T05:12:34 < englishman> as long as it come with mcafee 2016-03-09T05:13:12 < dongs> http://www.killernetworking.com/products/e2400 2016-03-09T05:14:12 < dongs> R2COM probaly has two of those in his gaming rig 2016-03-09T05:14:34 < englishman> according to wikipedia, regular xtals is exactly how cpus are clocked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_generator#/media/File:ICS_952018AF.jpg 2016-03-09T05:14:51 < dongs> ya of course 2016-03-09T05:14:53 < dongs> why would it be anything else 2016-03-09T05:15:09 < englishman> dono, maybe thered be something cool 2016-03-09T05:15:14 < englishman> to generate jiggahurtz 2016-03-09T05:16:05 < dongs> yea reading this gamer trash it sounds like 100mhz or wahtever bclk is whats going into it 2016-03-09T05:16:11 < dongs> and pll takes it to over 9000ghz on-chip 2016-03-09T05:53:44 < englishman> haha https://github.com/CocoaPods/CocoaPods/issues/4989#issuecomment-193772935 2016-03-09T05:53:48 < englishman> using shithub as cdn 2016-03-09T05:54:37 < englishman> 16000 subdirs in project 2016-03-09T05:56:28 < englishman> git on shitbucket 2016-03-09T05:57:01 < englishman> so am i 2016-03-09T05:57:35 < englishman> svn is deader than debian 2016-03-09T05:57:44 < dongs> englishman: what teh fuck lol 2016-03-09T05:57:47 < dongs> also teh fuck is cocoaspecs 2016-03-09T05:57:52 < englishman> some mac shit 2016-03-09T05:57:54 < dongs> that it generates terabyutes of bw 2016-03-09T05:58:12 < dongs> rof, its written in ruby 2016-03-09T05:58:13 < dongs> 100% 2016-03-09T05:58:15 < dongs> page closed 2016-03-09T05:58:27 < dongs> i dont believe a single word that shithub guy is saying 2016-03-09T05:58:33 < dongs> there's no way anything ruby can be used by more than like 2 people 2016-03-09T05:58:39 < dongs> so TBs of bw is coming from somewehre else 2016-03-09T05:58:52 < englishman> ruby is used by over 500 million people in san fran bay area alone 2016-03-09T06:00:43 < dongs> englishman: is that grindr user count? 2016-03-09T06:01:02 < englishman> in bay area alone 2016-03-09T06:02:15 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] 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datasheet 2016-03-09T07:09:35 < dongs> i.e. theory of operation 2016-03-09T07:09:41 < dongs> and they patented some way of doing it. 2016-03-09T07:10:35 < Sync_> a lot of cunts to that 2016-03-09T07:10:36 < dongs> wow 2016-03-09T07:10:41 < dongs> this lego movie bd has hebrew audio 2016-03-09T07:11:25 < Sync_> yes 2016-03-09T07:11:31 < Sync_> but if you are the first :D 2016-03-09T07:11:52 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T07:12:38 < dongs> then you get sued 2016-03-09T07:12:48 < Sync_> then in the US they have a chance of wiggling out 2016-03-09T07:12:53 < Sync_> that is the way nvidia does it 2016-03-09T07:13:04 < dongs> eh? how do you wiggle out of it 2016-03-09T07:13:11 < dongs> I thought in US would specificalyl make you pretty much fucked 2016-03-09T07:13:16 < Sync_> claiming you did not know about it 2016-03-09T07:13:21 < dongs> especialyl if you get sued in texas or whatever place 2016-03-09T07:14:03 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping 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2016-03-09T09:54:56 < PeterM> yeah, it basically disconnects HPD from HDMI_HPD and terminates it/pulls it down 2016-03-09T09:55:25 < dongs> ya but why that weird jfet shit 2016-03-09T09:56:56 < dongs> maybe ill drop it into falstaff sim and dick with it 2016-03-09T09:57:16 < dongs> er falstad 2016-03-09T10:00:54 < PeterM> that fet has real low capacitances, so it wont load down the lines when off 2016-03-09T10:04:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-09T10:06:01 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T10:06:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T10:08:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-09T10:24:55 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T10:25:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-09T10:28:03 -!- boB_K7IQ 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why 2016-03-09T11:14:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@194.79.141.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T11:14:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@194.79.141.178] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-09T11:14:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T11:14:56 < zyp> haha 2016-03-09T11:15:13 < zyp> hmm, why are you using jfet? I forgot what their advantages were 2016-03-09T11:15:17 < dongs> no iodea 2016-03-09T11:15:25 < dongs> im copying this chink schema. my analog pal says to keep it 2016-03-09T11:15:43 < dongs> actualyl that shit i pasted is wrong too 2016-03-09T11:16:02 < PeterM> is not a jfet 2016-03-09T11:16:08 < dongs> isnt it? 2016-03-09T11:16:11 < dongs> thats what nxp calls it 2016-03-09T11:16:17 < dongs> p-cahnnel junction fet 2016-03-09T11:16:17 < PeterM> its a mosfet but source/drain isnt connected to the substrate 2016-03-09T11:16:36 < dongs> eor is junction related to p-ch part 2016-03-09T11:16:52 < dongs> (in that case why repeat it) 2016-03-09T11:16:58 < PeterM> o shit is jfet 2016-03-09T11:17:01 < PeterM> mah bad 2016-03-09T11:17:17 < PeterM> thats what i get for skimming the DS 2016-03-09T11:17:32 < dongs> APPLICATIONS 2016-03-09T11:17:32 < dongs>  Pre-amplifiers in AM car radios. 2016-03-09T11:17:37 < dongs> well, thats awfully specific. 2016-03-09T11:17:43 < zyp> haha 2016-03-09T11:17:58 < dongs> thats what you use a n-jfet for. 2016-03-09T11:18:32 < zyp> hmm, I wonder if the radio in my new car supports AM 2016-03-09T11:18:43 < dongs> i know my new card does 2016-03-09T11:18:44 < dongs> car 2016-03-09T11:18:45 < zyp> and if it does, I wonder why 2016-03-09T11:18:54 < dongs> japs have highway radio on 1620kHz 2016-03-09T11:19:00 < dongs> and NHK is still broadcasting on AM 2016-03-09T11:19:04 < dongs> 2 channels I think 2016-03-09T11:19:24 < zyp> there haven't been AM broadcasts in Norway for as long as I can remember 2016-03-09T11:19:29 < dongs> heh 2016-03-09T11:19:31 < dongs> rly? 2016-03-09T11:19:37 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T11:19:45 < zyp> and the FM network is due to be shut down soon 2016-03-09T11:19:54 < dongs> whats replacing it? 2016-03-09T11:19:56 < dongs> DMB or whatever? 2016-03-09T11:19:58 < PeterM> AM radio has huge range and is often used for emergency 2016-03-09T11:19:59 < dongs> DAB 2016-03-09T11:20:23 < zyp> DAB, yes 2016-03-09T11:20:41 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/pdf/PCNs/NXP/201311006I.pdf 2016-03-09T11:21:09 < zyp> hmm, they're starting to kill off the FM network in january next year, and expect to be done by december 2016-03-09T11:24:28 < dongs> hm, the ipc footprint thing does generate nice looking .step models for SOT/TQFP etc 2016-03-09T11:24:32 < dongs> very nice 2016-03-09T11:26:03 < BrainDamage> jfet are "good" because they are the sweet point between gain and low 1/f noise 2016-03-09T11:26:12 < BrainDamage> but in practice they are shit to use 2016-03-09T11:27:18 < BrainDamage> they are typically used as input stage by shit like electrometers, or opamps, mostly integrated stuff that has hybrid of bjt because the same process can make jfets with minor changes 2016-03-09T11:27:34 < BrainDamage> discrete are really rare 2016-03-09T11:38:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Assist-Senior-Electrical-Engineer-Altium/ 2016-03-09T11:39:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Building-pan-tilt-camera/ 2016-03-09T11:40:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Construct-bespoke-device/ haha 2016-03-09T11:44:16 < dongs> hmm. my sot23/3/5/6 footprints can be 0.2mm shorter 2016-03-09T11:45:15 < PeterM> jsut be careful that the epoxy that overhangs o nthe edge isnt too much 2016-03-09T11:45:34 < PeterM> some mfgs have tighter tolerances than otehrs 2016-03-09T11:45:40 < dongs> nah this is pad to pad width 2016-03-09T11:45:45 < PeterM> ahh 2016-03-09T11:45:47 < dongs> not the plastic part width 2016-03-09T11:46:38 < dongs> ya i tihnk ill keep the IPC generated stuff. 2016-03-09T11:46:41 < dongs> looks lightly better 2016-03-09T11:53:08 < dongs> heh chinagirl went to some recruiter fair thing to look for more poeple to hire and out of 29ppl nobody wanted to work there 2016-03-09T11:59:23 < PeterM> dongs to work in her brokering thing? 2016-03-09T12:01:55 < dongs> PeterM: ya 2016-03-09T12:02:20 < dongs> none of the new graduates were interested in electronic shit 2016-03-09T12:02:51 < PeterM> what are the interested in? chinas growing AV sector? 2016-03-09T12:02:59 < dongs> probly 2016-03-09T12:07:28 < dongs> like college graduates? or wahtever 2016-03-09T12:07:42 < dongs> fuck knows what thier degree was 2016-03-09T12:11:15 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-09T12:12:41 < dongs> alchoholic. 2016-03-09T12:12:44 -!- amstan [~amstan@206-248-177-88.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T12:12:45 -!- amstan [~amstan@206-248-177-88.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-09T12:12:45 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T12:15:21 < dongs> so fucking old 2016-03-09T12:15:25 < dongs> i tweeted this shit like 2 weeks ago 2016-03-09T12:15:46 < dongs> why does girl in purple have like some kitchen sinks behind her 2016-03-09T12:16:00 < dongs> that doesnt look like a kind of office you'd be soldering shit into a computer motherboard in 2016-03-09T12:16:20 < dongs> holy fuck 1.6mil views 2016-03-09T12:18:29 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-09T12:18:41 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T12:29:47 -!- CRTT [~~@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T12:32:54 < CRTT> sup crt 2016-03-09T12:45:33 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T12:47:34 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-09T12:48:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-121.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-09T12:48:57 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-09T13:12:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-121.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T13:17:50 < kakimir> it's school chem lab you fool 2016-03-09T13:19:28 < kakimir> in those deep plastic sinks you wash down your chemical creation 2016-03-09T13:20:05 < lorenzo> meth 2016-03-09T13:20:13 < lorenzo> don't you watch tv these days 2016-03-09T13:20:15 < lorenzo> it's all about meth 2016-03-09T13:21:25 < kakimir> there is even ventilated safety box kinda thing 2016-03-09T13:21:50 < kakimir> that you see in chemlabs 2016-03-09T13:25:37 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T13:31:45 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-09T13:32:06 < kakimir> more than I have already told? 2016-03-09T13:32:41 < kakimir> I hope soon 2016-03-09T13:32:49 < kakimir> in a month 2016-03-09T13:33:57 < kakimir> its not ready, i have to budget it and order takea 3weeks to arrive 2016-03-09T13:34:35 < kakimir> deoends 2016-03-09T13:34:41 < kakimir> depends 2016-03-09T13:35:12 < kakimir> to who 2016-03-09T13:35:20 < kakimir> and how many 2016-03-09T13:36:15 < kakimir> it's a demo 2016-03-09T13:38:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T13:45:10 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-09T13:45:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:09:29 < karlp> is st's website any better/faster/newer for anyone? 2016-03-09T14:09:39 < karlp> I'm not really seeing any changes, but they emailed to tell me about how new and shiny it was 2016-03-09T14:14:10 < Steffanx> Its responsive now. Totally 2016 phone ready 2016-03-09T14:17:28 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:18:41 < zyp> did they shit up the website again? 2016-03-09T14:19:22 < karlp> looks the same to me, but they sent me marketting email bragging baout how cool and new it is 2016-03-09T14:19:28 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:20:30 < zyp> ah, yeah, I got that too 2016-03-09T14:23:38 -!- KreA [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:24:54 < dongs> http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/03/08/shizuoka-police-arrest-american-teacher-suspected-in-flashing-incidents/ 2016-03-09T14:25:19 < Sync_> the fuck 2016-03-09T14:25:24 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:26:03 < dongs> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2273319/ is on tv so far boring as shit 2016-03-09T14:26:38 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:26:47 < dongs> http://img.banggood.com/thumb/large/oaupload/banggood/images/20/BF/d81617fa-9a7f-4db9-9019-12a6c3056124.jpg 2016-03-09T14:26:59 -!- blight_ [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:26:59 -!- blight_ [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-09T14:26:59 -!- blight_ [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:27:01 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:01 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:01 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:01 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:02 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-09T14:27:02 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- dfgg [~damian@195.154.165.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- taruti [taruti@ultra.violetti.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- CheBuzz- [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:27:03 -!- CheBuzz- is now known as CheBuzz 2016-03-09T14:27:04 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-09T14:27:04 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:27:08 < kakimir> do bldc motos have rotation direction or wtf 2016-03-09T14:27:13 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:13 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:27:14 < dongs> lol 2016-03-09T14:27:16 < dongs> no kakimir . 2016-03-09T14:27:22 < dongs> you swap any 2 wires to make it go in reverse. 2016-03-09T14:27:41 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:28:01 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:28:01 -!- dfgg [~damian@195.154.165.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:28:06 -!- taruti [taruti@ultra.violetti.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:28:08 < kakimir> when there is something like "you dont need to recoil your shit with simonk" 2016-03-09T14:28:17 -!- nikomo [~quassel@nikomo.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:28:30 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:28:30 < kakimir> that means that it has.. reverse? 2016-03-09T14:28:45 < dongs> yeah you can commutate backwards 2016-03-09T14:28:49 < dongs> then it will gon in reverse 2016-03-09T14:28:59 < dongs> the 6 steps of commutation 2016-03-09T14:29:19 < kakimir> who would ever do that? 2016-03-09T14:29:26 < dongs> people who want to reverse it 2016-03-09T14:29:39 < FatalNIX> Do you think that the GPIO on the STM32 boards are capable of rising and falling at a rate to give me 1 symbol per microsecond? 2016-03-09T14:29:41 < dongs> http://in.renesas.com/media/applications/key_technology/motor_control/motor_algorithms/child_folder/trap_waveforms.gif 2016-03-09T14:29:58 < dongs> FatalNIX: wahts microsecond, 1/1000second? 2016-03-09T14:29:59 < kakimir> I mean does people recoil their stuff to not swap wires? 2016-03-09T14:30:02 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.59.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:30:03 < kakimir> :D 2016-03-09T14:30:09 < kakimir> recoil = swap? 2016-03-09T14:30:14 < FatalNIX> dongs, that's 1 milisecond 2016-03-09T14:30:30 < FatalNIX> 1 microsecond is 1/1000 of a milisecond 2016-03-09T14:30:40 < FatalNIX> I am clocking the STM32 module at 72 Mhz 2016-03-09T14:30:46 < kakimir> I got autism confusion with word recoil in it 2016-03-09T14:30:50 < dongs> so thats just 1MHz 2016-03-09T14:30:51 < FatalNIX> so that part is no problem, but I was concerned of the wiring on the gpio 2016-03-09T14:30:53 < dongs> yes absolutely. 2016-03-09T14:30:56 < FatalNIX> ok 2016-03-09T14:31:15 < dongs> if yo uwant it "accurate" i suggest using output capture. 2016-03-09T14:31:18 < FatalNIX> I didn't know if I would get some strange not so square wave patterns at that point 2016-03-09T14:31:19 < dongs> er output compare/wahtever 2016-03-09T14:31:20 < dongs> timer shit. 2016-03-09T14:31:24 < dongs> no, its fine. 2016-03-09T14:31:31 < FatalNIX> neat 2016-03-09T14:31:33 < dongs> you can use the stronger drive setup (2/10/50MHz) 2016-03-09T14:31:48 < FatalNIX> I'm making my stm32 module into a Nintendo 64 controller dongle 2016-03-09T14:31:49 < FatalNIX> :D 2016-03-09T14:31:57 < dongs> you stll have a n64? 2016-03-09T14:32:00 < FatalNIX> yes 2016-03-09T14:32:10 < dongs> i smashed mine to pieces like..20 years ago if not more 2016-03-09T14:32:25 < FatalNIX> and I have an xbox controller for my desktop, but the joysticks are breaking, etc, and I was like, well maybe I could use my STM32 to interface it 2016-03-09T14:32:32 < dongs> ok maybe 15. 2016-03-09T14:32:34 < PeterM> kakimir, recoiling is the process of commutating the motor to generate back emf to sense its direction/position, often this commutates teh motor back a pole or two before proceeding forward 2016-03-09T14:32:40 < FatalNIX> I think the way I will do it is not make it act as a USB device though, and instead just spit it over 115200 serial 2016-03-09T14:32:50 < dongs> oh 2016-03-09T14:32:56 < dongs> you are hooking up n64 thing to pc as usb hid. 2016-03-09T14:32:57 < dongs> right. 2016-03-09T14:33:04 < FatalNIX> well 2016-03-09T14:33:28 < FatalNIX> I looked at the USB stuff and I do not understand it much, at least I don't know enough about USB and the manual is pretty vague 2016-03-09T14:33:36 < FatalNIX> so I figure I can just pipe it over serial cable 2016-03-09T14:33:55 < FatalNIX> even at 115200 it should be way fast enough 2016-03-09T14:34:04 < FatalNIX> for a game 2016-03-09T14:34:15 < karlp> clearly you'r enot a serious g3mer 2016-03-09T14:34:21 < FatalNIX> LOL 2016-03-09T14:34:48 < FatalNIX> it would be cool to figure out how to make a USB peripheral with it though 2016-03-09T14:34:55 < dongs> FatalNIX: looks super straightforward to do with stm http://www.pieter-jan.com/node/10 2016-03-09T14:35:08 < FatalNIX> yeah I saw that 2016-03-09T14:35:18 < FatalNIX> that's what got me the idea 2016-03-09T14:35:24 < dongs> except fuck pic 2016-03-09T14:35:30 < FatalNIX> I don't like PIC chips 2016-03-09T14:35:34 < dongs> you can literally just use input capture for this 2016-03-09T14:35:41 < dongs> and it will automatically count the bits and shit 2016-03-09T14:35:43 < FatalNIX> I have to send data too though 2016-03-09T14:35:48 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:35:54 < FatalNIX> in order to get any data you have to send 0b000000011 2016-03-09T14:36:02 < FatalNIX> then it spits out an update packet of 32 bits 2016-03-09T14:36:09 < FatalNIX> least that's what it looked like 2016-03-09T14:36:20 < FatalNIX> but the input capture part? yeah.. 2016-03-09T14:38:08 < FatalNIX> see, so the STM32 has an input capture mode on its' timers 2016-03-09T14:38:19 < dongs> setup DMA to/from timer->CCRx 2016-03-09T14:38:38 < FatalNIX> DMA also sounds fun 2016-03-09T14:38:40 < dongs> make array of periods to match what you wanna send, then clock it out with DMA 2016-03-09T14:38:52 < FatalNIX> I have been reading about DMA in my book but I haven't tested it yet 2016-03-09T14:39:11 < FatalNIX> dongs, that's actually kind of cool 2016-03-09T14:39:23 < FatalNIX> so then DMA just does the work for you? 2016-03-09T14:39:34 < dongs> to clockout that 0b0001 thing or whatever yeah 2016-03-09T14:39:41 < FatalNIX> interesting 2016-03-09T14:39:46 < FatalNIX> that sounds super simple 2016-03-09T14:40:12 < FatalNIX> I'm still contemplating wether or not I will make the STM32 device act as a USB peripheral or not yet 2016-03-09T14:40:15 < dongs> basically your send array will be { 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,1,1 } 2016-03-09T14:40:23 < FatalNIX> or wether I should* 2016-03-09T14:40:25 < dongs> if timer stuffis setup at 4us or wahtever 2016-03-09T14:41:40 < FatalNIX> the signal looks weird though. both a 1 and a zero has a high logic level 2016-03-09T14:41:46 < FatalNIX> it's just where the dip is 2016-03-09T14:42:02 < dongs> its same was ws2812 leds 2016-03-09T14:42:11 < dongs> pulse period modulation or someshit 2016-03-09T14:42:27 < FatalNIX> and input capture is smart enough to handle that without special configuration? 2016-03-09T14:42:45 < dongs> it doesnt care, it's just going to return you values it captures 2016-03-09T14:42:47 < FatalNIX> oh these.. 2016-03-09T14:42:52 < FatalNIX> I have to hook these up for my class 2016-03-09T14:43:02 < dongs> so you will get a stream of shit like small,big,big,small,big,small wahtever and you can sync to your shit and parse it 2016-03-09T14:43:24 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:44:44 < FatalNIX> so looks like itl be simple enough that I can do this all in C 2016-03-09T14:44:52 < FatalNIX> simple enough / fast enough 2016-03-09T14:45:03 < dongs> you definitely onl want to do this in C 2016-03-09T14:45:07 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-09T14:45:11 < dongs> only pic retards waste time wiht asm 2016-03-09T14:45:36 < FatalNIX> well in my class we're using pwm ultrasound modules with assembly 2016-03-09T14:45:52 < FatalNIX> ad to be honest I was always told ARM assembly is nice and I hate it 2016-03-09T14:46:19 < FatalNIX> but I come from a 6502 background where the assembly was much more simple and honestly, less full of "|OH, you can't do that that way" 2016-03-09T14:47:22 < FatalNIX> I actually have a 6502 in the other room I keep around for my little projects 2016-03-09T14:47:30 < FatalNIX> beats the shit out of PIC for what I do 2016-03-09T14:47:31 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-09T14:47:46 < FatalNIX> z80 is nice, I wouldn't mind having a z180 around 2016-03-09T14:48:11 < FatalNIX> z180s are a bit more rare 2016-03-09T14:48:26 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-09T14:48:27 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:48:30 < dongs> fucking VLC garbage what the hell 2016-03-09T14:48:33 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-09T14:48:45 < dongs> its not downmixing 5.1 audio into stereo at all 2016-03-09T14:48:47 < FatalNIX> WDC makes 6502 chips that run at like 200 Mhz 2016-03-09T14:48:48 < dongs> https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=121942 2016-03-09T14:48:49 < dongs> what a joke 2016-03-09T14:49:01 < FatalNIX> and they're CMOS so you can easily make a stepping debugger for them with an arduino or whatever you got 2016-03-09T14:49:46 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.75.35] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-03-09T14:49:49 < FatalNIX> wait what 2016-03-09T14:49:55 < dongs> https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=115203 2016-03-09T14:50:20 < dongs> except it doesnt 2016-03-09T14:50:28 < dongs> If your device has stereo speakers, it will automatically downmix from 5.1 to 2.0 on 5.1 audio tracks. 2016-03-09T14:53:08 < FatalNIX> probably one of those people who think they can tell the difference in quality by ear of a 20 foot snake compared to a 19 foot snake. 2016-03-09T14:55:57 < dongs> nah, just chcked its just blc being a cokc 2016-03-09T14:56:00 < dongs> mpc-hc works fine 2016-03-09T14:56:04 < dongs> downmixing 2016-03-09T14:56:08 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T14:58:34 < dongs> mpc-hc is opensores too 2016-03-09T14:58:49 < dongs> and works. 2016-03-09T14:58:51 < dongs> so shrug 2016-03-09T14:59:15 < dongs> i stopped upgrading vlc also because they broke seeking mpeg2ts 2016-03-09T14:59:26 < dongs> vlc 2.2.x seek in 70gig .ts file = 2 minutes wait 2016-03-09T14:59:32 < dongs> 2.1.5 works instantly 2016-03-09T15:01:35 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-09T15:08:43 < FatalNIX> OH 2016-03-09T15:08:53 < FatalNIX> I see why you're doing timing that way with dma / capture.. 2016-03-09T15:09:12 < FatalNIX> you're basically just saying how long it dips 2016-03-09T15:09:36 < FatalNIX> seems so easy it sounds like cheating :D 2016-03-09T15:37:27 < dongs> ikr 2016-03-09T16:26:09 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKUlpwU0prTllhN2M/view?usp=sharing dongs check my autism today 2016-03-09T16:26:47 < englishman> canadians https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/561041-980ti-darwin-awards-help/ 2016-03-09T16:27:04 < zyp> not enough SMAs 2016-03-09T16:27:52 < kakimir> none 2016-03-09T16:27:56 < zyp> kakimir, are that 2mm pitch headers? 2016-03-09T16:28:58 < zyp> what does that thing do anyway, is it supposed to operate on line voltage? 2016-03-09T16:29:03 < zyp> fuse/transformer suggests that 2016-03-09T16:29:05 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T16:29:37 < zyp> but there doesn't seem to be much separation between line voltage and low voltage stuff 2016-03-09T16:31:26 < kakimir> no way there will be line voltages 2016-03-09T16:31:50 < BrainDamage> are you using MMC as power connector now? 2016-03-09T16:32:01 < zyp> what's the huge transformer for then? 2016-03-09T16:32:48 < kakimir> transformer? where? 2016-03-09T16:33:05 < BrainDamage> the coilcraft package 2016-03-09T16:33:20 < BrainDamage> which is generally for transformers, but i guess it's a coil 2016-03-09T16:33:25 < zyp> is that just a huge fucking single coil? 2016-03-09T16:34:33 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKTkpWV3FJbS1oeFk/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-09T16:35:03 < zyp> looks like a transformer to me 2016-03-09T16:36:17 < BrainDamage> btw why do you need such a gigantic coil, are you switching at 1Hz? 2016-03-09T16:36:30 < BrainDamage> or do you need nV autismriplles? 2016-03-09T16:37:52 < ReadError> so i just noticed something odd 2016-03-09T16:38:14 < ReadError> in altium, for clearances, they use 'InNamedPolygon' 2016-03-09T16:38:26 < ReadError> for connect style, its 'IsNamedPolygon' 2016-03-09T16:39:04 < kakimir> BrainDamage: I think it's to minimize losses 2016-03-09T16:39:11 < kakimir> to have properly copper 2016-03-09T16:42:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-121.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-09T16:42:10 < BrainDamage> you think? so you didn't calculate them? 2016-03-09T16:42:44 < kakimir> I took something from reference desing 2016-03-09T16:42:50 < kakimir> design 2016-03-09T16:43:02 < kakimir> can not lose with that 2016-03-09T16:46:11 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T16:50:07 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T16:50:12 < jadew> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQ87Dqd_460s.jpg 2016-03-09T16:50:51 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T16:51:43 < karlp> jadew: pasted here weeks ago. 2016-03-09T16:51:48 < jadew> ah 2016-03-09T16:52:04 < karlp> directly from teh stock photography site they were found on. 2016-03-09T16:52:34 < kakimir> did that stuff begin here? 2016-03-09T16:52:37 < jadew> hah 2016-03-09T16:53:00 < karlp> ask dongs where he saw it 2016-03-09T16:53:38 < kakimir> I think I saw that first in another channel 2016-03-09T16:53:44 < kakimir> kicad or so 2016-03-09T16:58:38 < karlp> heh, it's been removed: http://www.123rf.com/photo_31257438_man-repairing-a-printed-circuit-board-with-a-forced-air-soldering-iron.html 2016-03-09T16:59:11 < dongs> yeah i started it 2016-03-09T16:59:31 < karlp> no, jpa did: http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/man-soldering-repairing-printed-circuit-board-forced-air-iron-44099087.jpg 2016-03-09T17:00:19 < karlp> dongs then found the source of the iamge on the stock site. 2016-03-09T17:00:44 * karlp procrastinates well... 2016-03-09T17:01:51 < dongs> oh okay 2016-03-09T17:06:37 < kakimir> meme creator dongs 2016-03-09T17:07:48 < kakimir> I wonder what is optimal via size for high current stitching 2016-03-09T17:14:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-09T17:18:19 < jadew> kakimir, figure out the trace width you need for the current 2016-03-09T17:18:36 < jadew> then you'll have to make a tradeoff between number of vias and their diameter 2016-03-09T17:19:08 < jadew> (you'd have to calculate the circumference) 2016-03-09T17:19:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-09T17:30:31 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@dhcp-186238.eduroam.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T17:42:57 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T17:43:23 -!- emeb_mac [uid151121@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-avpffpkucjvahzpg] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T17:45:56 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-09T17:46:07 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:01:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:09:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:09:51 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:10:15 -!- Peter is now known as Guest73055 2016-03-09T18:29:52 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-09T18:30:00 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:30:57 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqjrvklwjkklhywp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:33:32 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-140-80.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-09T18:38:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:89bf:9ea8:4a05:b249] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T18:42:13 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@dhcp-186238.eduroam.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-09T18:48:45 < Laurenceb_> anyone here familiar with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_Overhead_Byte_Stuffing 2016-03-09T18:48:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:89bf:9ea8:4a05:b249] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-09T18:48:59 < Laurenceb_> I'm very confused by the explanation 2016-03-09T18:49:11 < Laurenceb_> like how do they fit the 0-255 range into 1-255 2016-03-09T18:56:40 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-09T19:00:49 -!- emeb_mac [uid151121@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-avpffpkucjvahzpg] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-09T19:10:18 < qyx> they do not 2016-03-09T19:10:43 < qyx> it seems that they simply split the input into parts delimited by zero 2016-03-09T19:11:02 < qyx> and prepend a header of 1 + length to each part 2016-03-09T19:11:09 < Laurenceb_> but they replace zero bytes with a number 2016-03-09T19:11:14 < Laurenceb_> so far so good 2016-03-09T19:11:25 < Laurenceb_> what is there is a data byte equal to tat value? 2016-03-09T19:11:43 < qyx> like the example 11 22 00 33 2016-03-09T19:11:51 < qyx> split into two parts 2016-03-09T19:11:55 < qyx> 11 22 and 33 2016-03-09T19:12:04 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-03-09T19:12:05 < qyx> output 1 + length (which is 2) 2016-03-09T19:12:11 < qyx> 03 11 22 2016-03-09T19:12:17 < Laurenceb_> hmm i need to read it again 2016-03-09T19:12:18 < qyx> and then output the second part 2016-03-09T19:12:35 < qyx> 1 + length (which is 1) 2016-03-09T19:12:39 < qyx> 02 33 2016-03-09T19:12:44 < Laurenceb_> in the wiki article its no creating new packets 2016-03-09T19:12:45 < qyx> and end of packet 00 2016-03-09T19:13:03 < qyx> wat, there are encoding examples 2016-03-09T19:13:19 < Laurenceb_> basically I dont see how you can convert 0-255 range to 1-255 2016-03-09T19:13:20 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_Overhead_Byte_Stuffing#Encoding_examples 2016-03-09T19:13:29 < qyx> then having 03 11 22 02 33 00 2016-03-09T19:13:30 < Laurenceb_> unless you use something like PPP of course 2016-03-09T19:13:42 < qyx> you read the first byte, 03, which gives you the lenngth 2016-03-09T19:13:48 < qyx> copy 2 bytes to output 2016-03-09T19:13:52 < qyx> read next header, 02 2016-03-09T19:13:55 < qyx> copy 1 byte to output 2016-03-09T19:13:59 < qyx> read the next header, 00 2016-03-09T19:14:02 < qyx> oh, end of packet 2016-03-09T19:14:10 < qyx> go on, read the next header xx... 2016-03-09T19:14:20 < Laurenceb_> oh i see, its iterative 2016-03-09T19:14:25 < Laurenceb_> got it now, thanks 2016-03-09T19:14:48 < qyx> similar to hdlc or how is it called 2016-03-09T19:14:52 < qyx> used in ppp stuff 2016-03-09T19:14:54 < Laurenceb_> so the first byte is like a "jump" value to the next zero or end of packet 2016-03-09T19:15:02 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-09T19:15:12 < Laurenceb_> wikipedia explanation sucks lol 2016-03-09T19:17:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-09T19:19:54 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T19:20:48 < emeb> reminds me of hdlc 2016-03-09T19:22:52 < Laurenceb_> due to SP1ML modules being "too transparent", I have to add my own packet layer to make them useful :-/ 2016-03-09T19:24:34 < qyx> mhm 2016-03-09T19:25:02 < qyx> I am considering to do something similar 2016-03-09T19:25:13 < qyx> packet engines tend to be quite restricted 2016-03-09T19:25:46 < qyx> but wat 2016-03-09T19:25:55 < qyx> spirit1 has good packet engine 2016-03-09T19:28:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T19:29:44 < Laurenceb_> yeah but SP1ML hides the packet engine 2016-03-09T19:29:52 < Laurenceb_> it depends what you want to do 2016-03-09T19:30:08 < Laurenceb_> SP1ML works nicely for simple device to device with two devices 2016-03-09T19:32:31 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:c971:6281:4e8f:5204] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T19:36:47 < qyx> uh, at command interface 2016-03-09T19:36:48 < qyx> i see 2016-03-09T19:37:47 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-09T19:37:48 < qyx> hm, isn't the embedded L1 reprogrammable? 2016-03-09T19:38:47 < qyx> also, why the hell L1 2016-03-09T19:38:47 < qyx> meh 2016-03-09T19:39:03 < Laurenceb_> lol it's supposed ot be simple :P 2016-03-09T19:39:21 < Laurenceb_> maybe i should have gone with the spi interface version 2016-03-09T19:39:28 < qyx> too low memory for my great and awesome (tm) unfinished network stack 2016-03-09T19:39:40 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T19:39:58 < qyx> also, L1 is too slow for EC crypto 2016-03-09T19:40:10 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-09T19:40:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.rutronik24.com/product/st/spsgrf-868/6950940.html 2016-03-09T19:40:49 < Laurenceb_> you might like SPSGRF more 2016-03-09T19:40:51 < qyx> otherwise it would be a good node/router/repeater with a cr2032 2016-03-09T19:41:35 < Laurenceb_> yeah my system is ending up being counterproductive 2016-03-09T19:42:13 < Laurenceb_> I'm going for USB host <-> multiple slaved devices 2016-03-09T19:42:36 < Laurenceb_> probably host pings devices then they reply, so basic TDMA is possible 2016-03-09T19:42:57 < Laurenceb_> but I need device discovery and named devices too :S 2016-03-09T19:43:24 < Laurenceb_> SPSGRF might have been simpler then SP1ML :P 2016-03-09T19:44:24 < Laurenceb_> qyx: what sort of bit rates do you need? 2016-03-09T19:46:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.85] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T19:54:42 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-09T19:57:40 -!- Guest73055 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-09T20:03:12 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-0-1-x-200-x-500MM-99-9-Pure-Copper-Cu-Metal-Sheet-Foil-/371515005616 I wonder how pure chinese copper sheet is 2016-03-09T20:03:31 < qyx> pure oxygen and copper free 2016-03-09T20:03:37 < kakimir> and does it have fingerprints burnt to it 2016-03-09T20:19:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-09T20:22:45 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-09T20:27:12 < Laurenceb_> lol maybe I can just use RFC1661 2016-03-09T20:27:22 < Laurenceb_> c&p code time 2016-03-09T20:33:40 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-09T20:33:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:7e00:b160:5573:9dbe:6b6d] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T20:37:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.213] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T20:45:27 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T21:01:05 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T21:09:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-09T21:10:00 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:98ab:22b4:bcde:3a9b] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T21:10:58 -!- Guest73055 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T21:23:34 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:c971:6281:4e8f:5204] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-09T21:57:05 < karlp> Laurenceb_: ppp has been updated a few times, bu tyeah, ppp's nto sucky. 2016-03-09T21:57:10 < karlp> you might also look at hdlc 2016-03-09T21:58:55 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-09T22:00:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T22:02:55 < Laurenceb_> hdlc is bit wise, so somewhat annoying 2016-03-09T22:03:12 < Laurenceb_> the L1 is just making things annoying :-/ 2016-03-09T22:03:29 < Laurenceb_> e.g. entering AT command mode results in an unpredictable delay :S 2016-03-09T22:04:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:7e00:b160:5573:9dbe:6b6d] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-09T22:06:44 -!- Guest73055 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-09T22:09:07 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T22:10:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T22:17:13 < kakimir> is kelvin trace even better 2016-03-09T22:17:14 < kakimir> if 2016-03-09T22:17:37 < kakimir> I trace that pair so that both are aligned in 2 inner layers? 2016-03-09T22:18:08 < Laurenceb_> what?? 2016-03-09T22:18:19 < kakimir> like on top of each other 2016-03-09T22:18:25 < Laurenceb_> kakimir is a random wordsalad generator 2016-03-09T22:19:01 < Laurenceb_> carbon fiber becomes both a surface extension of the self and a third party mediator in homosexual relationships, a surface that facilitates intimacy between men in ways that devalue femininity in both male and female bodies 2016-03-09T22:19:07 < Laurenceb_> I can play this game too 2016-03-09T22:19:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-09T22:36:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-09T22:36:55 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-140-80.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T22:45:04 < Laurenceb_> Does LadyAda’s ego know no bounds? The first co-opting her handle from someone way more important to history than herself. You didn’t see Steve Jobs running around calling himself “Mr.Newton” or “GuyTuring” 2016-03-09T22:47:50 < Steffanx> fix your character set Laurenceb_ 2016-03-09T22:48:11 < Steffanx> or copy paste skills 2016-03-09T22:58:05 < julius> i can read his writing 2016-03-09T22:58:24 < julius> it just makes no sense 2016-03-09T22:59:49 < kakimir> Steffanx: you fix yours! 2016-03-09T23:00:19 < kakimir> julius: he is on his favorite subject - femrads 2016-03-09T23:00:23 < kakimir> or something 2016-03-09T23:10:59 < Steffanx> so what character is ’ kakimir? 2016-03-09T23:15:42 < kakimir> some weird shie 2016-03-09T23:15:59 < kakimir> better fix your charsets 2016-03-09T23:18:40 < Steffanx> screenshot me what you see, i need to know. 2016-03-09T23:19:05 < kakimir> sure thing buddy 2016-03-09T23:20:26 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKVW80aDRhNmxybFE/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-09T23:21:34 < Steffanx> hmm 2016-03-09T23:21:54 < kakimir> just use UTF8 in every turn 2016-03-09T23:22:53 < kakimir> I remember we had wars in IRC like 10years ago that which character sets to use and eventyally I was banned 2016-03-09T23:25:16 < kakimir> nowdays those channels do not even exist anymore I think 2016-03-09T23:25:23 < Steffanx> you must be old 2016-03-09T23:25:43 < kakimir> almost hundred years 2016-03-09T23:25:51 < Steffanx> i figured 2016-03-09T23:30:56 -!- julius [~julius@78.46.191.9] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-03-09T23:31:40 < Steffanx> i do utf8 so not sure what is wrong. I can no longer irc with you kakimir 2016-03-09T23:33:00 < kakimir> I'm sorry 2016-03-09T23:33:10 < kakimir> to hear that 2016-03-09T23:36:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:98ab:22b4:bcde:3a9b] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-09T23:50:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-09T23:50:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-09T23:53:04 < bilboquet_> does anyone have a good reference for the nucleo morpho connector ? 2016-03-09T23:53:49 < bilboquet_> i can't find the reference that I had put aside 2016-03-09T23:55:35 < bilboquet_> i ve to search in shields doc, but i dont know which one. i can't remenber 2016-03-09T23:56:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-09T23:57:26 -!- Guest73055 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-09T23:57:50 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] --- Day changed Thu Mar 10 2016 2016-03-10T00:00:15 < bilboquet_> find ! http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/resource/technical/document/user_manual/DM00241205.pdf 2016-03-10T00:07:54 < bilboquet_> ESQ-119-24-T-D, but not very cheap... 2016-03-10T00:08:24 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqjrvklwjkklhywp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-10T00:09:17 < bilboquet_> and 4UCONN 08413 is difficult to find. 2016-03-10T00:18:09 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-45-181.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T00:35:05 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-dzzeagwqxbujvcnx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T00:38:35 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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I could have sworn I could use the PLL to multiply the clock for the system clock 2016-03-10T01:57:06 < FatalNIX> but apparently I can only use it to divide it 2016-03-10T01:57:17 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-10T01:57:33 < FatalNIX> wait, I bet I can do this differently 2016-03-10T01:57:59 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T01:59:31 < FatalNIX> maybe I can set something.. 2016-03-10T02:01:55 < FatalNIX> if I can figure out what the PCLK is 2016-03-10T02:02:06 < FatalNIX> then maybe I can make it do what I want (or make it com from another PLL) 2016-03-10T02:09:20 < FatalNIX> I love how the reference manual doesn't say anything about PCLK 2016-03-10T02:10:46 < FatalNIX> ok. PCLK is a generic name for APB1 and APB2 2016-03-10T02:12:39 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:38:38 < FatalNIX> ok. Looks like I can get a clean 9600 baud if I use 12Mhz as the system clock 2016-03-10T02:39:41 < FatalNIX> then the number will be 0x4E2 2016-03-10T02:43:58 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:44:33 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:46:10 < FatalNIX> crt: I was so focused on getting 72 Mhz to do 115200 2016-03-10T02:46:33 < FatalNIX> but 9600 baud will give me 200+ 32 bit structs of N64 controller data per second 2016-03-10T02:46:39 < FatalNIX> way more than fast enough 2016-03-10T02:46:58 -!- fujin_ [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxhwpodqhrtaazjw] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:48:01 -!- pidpawel [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:48:02 -!- pidpawel [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-10T02:48:02 -!- pidpawel [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:48:11 -!- _Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:48:17 -!- PaulFertser_ [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:48:32 -!- Simon--_ [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:49:04 -!- zz_ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:04 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:04 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:04 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:05 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:05 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:05 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:05 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:06 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:06 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wvclvfvgewbjzwxn] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:06 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:06 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:06 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T02:49:13 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-03-10T02:49:36 -!- blight_ [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-10T02:49:41 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:49:49 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:49:59 -!- fujin_ is now known as fujin 2016-03-10T02:50:13 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:50:29 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:50:31 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-10T02:52:51 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:55:39 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T02:57:33 -!- Simon--_ is now known as Simon-- 2016-03-10T03:02:03 -!- caspinol [~user@31.193.218.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-10T03:03:41 < dongs> MISCELLANEOUS 2016-03-10T03:03:41 < dongs> Microsoft Certifications Compatible with Windows 7 2016-03-10T03:03:42 < dongs> MTBF 600000 sec 2016-03-10T03:03:47 < dongs> http://www.cnet.com/products/toshiba-mq01abd050-hard-drive-500-gb-sata-3gb-s-mq01abd050/specs/ 2016-03-10T03:03:50 < dongs> go cnet 2016-03-10T03:06:53 < dongs> Bytes per Sector 4096 Hz 2016-03-10T03:22:51 < dongs> en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_feb_2016_x64_dvd_8379634.iso 2016-03-10T03:22:55 < dongs> neat 2016-03-10T03:23:01 < dongs> 1511 is getting more updates rolled up into installer. 2016-03-10T03:24:22 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T03:30:39 < Laurenceb_> ST stands for life.augmented 2016-03-10T03:30:42 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-10T03:32:54 < Sync_> rage.augmented 2016-03-10T03:34:27 < kakimir> what st is french-italian? 2016-03-10T03:34:30 < Laurenceb_> sexy.tranny 2016-03-10T03:34:48 < kakimir> I though it was muricun 2016-03-10T03:36:12 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-10T03:36:39 < Sync_> wat kakimir 2016-03-10T03:36:51 < Sync_> stop smoking dem finlandia kush 2016-03-10T03:38:27 < kakimir> main reason why I use LPC was 2016-03-10T03:39:08 < kakimir> that I thought it was only viable european thing there 2016-03-10T03:39:14 < Sync_> wat 2016-03-10T03:39:22 < Sync_> atmel nxp and st are all yurop 2016-03-10T03:39:31 < Sync_> well atmel not anymore 2016-03-10T03:39:37 < kakimir> so what muricuns do? 2016-03-10T03:39:43 < Sync_> infinishit as well 2016-03-10T03:41:05 < kakimir> muricuns do all the beefy stuff? 2016-03-10T03:41:55 < kakimir> intel, fpgas, gpus, texas 2016-03-10T03:42:45 < englishman> sorry bro 2016-03-10T03:42:49 < englishman> intel = israel 2016-03-10T03:42:54 < Laurenceb_> WHOSE GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL? 2016-03-10T03:42:55 < englishman> amd = irish canadian 2016-03-10T03:43:08 < englishman> xilinx = malaysia 2016-03-10T03:43:10 < kakimir> intel wot? 2016-03-10T03:43:32 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T03:43:56 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel 2016-03-10T03:44:01 < Sync_> well amd still fabs in dresden 2016-03-10T03:56:56 < FatalNIX> sigh. the STM32L476VG pisses me off 2016-03-10T03:57:18 < FatalNIX> same problem I had a month ago, no matter what I do, I can not set MSIRANGE. so dumb. 2016-03-10T03:57:26 < FatalNIX> nothing in the manual talks about it 2016-03-10T03:58:01 < englishman> "Syrian refugees in Canada got housed in same hotel as VancouFur furry convention and the children loved it" 2016-03-10T03:59:54 < FatalNIX> I do not understand.. there is no reason why it should care 2016-03-10T04:01:22 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-10T04:02:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:02:36 < FatalNIX> crt: Maybe I should just to see the shit they'd say lol 2016-03-10T04:03:15 < FatalNIX> crt: All I am trying to do is set the MSI clock to 48 Mhz :( 2016-03-10T04:06:07 < FatalNIX> Not sure. I can set the range of it, but then it shuts off MSIRGSEL, which makes the MSIRANGE in another register, which, I can not edit. 2016-03-10T04:06:24 < FatalNIX> and if I try and force it in the debigger to use my range iut just shuts it back off.. 2016-03-10T04:06:30 < FatalNIX> lol? 2016-03-10T04:06:36 < FatalNIX> I'm reading the reference manual 2016-03-10T04:06:43 < FatalNIX> thing is, it doesn't say there's any dependencies for it 2016-03-10T04:07:18 < FatalNIX> so either the documentation is wrong, or the information is in the wrong place, or I'm missing something stupid silly 2016-03-10T04:07:42 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-10T04:08:01 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-10T04:08:14 < FatalNIX> thing is though, I tried doing this like, a month ago 2016-03-10T04:08:27 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:08:33 < FatalNIX> took me two days playing with it, and it just magically worked one day 2016-03-10T04:08:56 < FatalNIX> pow5? 2016-03-10T04:09:18 -!- fenugrec [~R@24-122-165-84.tr.cgocable.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:09:22 < FatalNIX> lol? 2016-03-10T04:10:12 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:10:33 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-10T04:15:59 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-10T04:16:57 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2016-03-10T04:16:58 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/JF1GI2v 2016-03-10T04:17:26 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:18:23 < FatalNIX> ok. I found 1 clue. MSIRANGE in CSR can only go up to 8 Mhz, I can change it from 4 to 8. but I need 48.. 2016-03-10T04:20:07 < Laurenceb_> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8NLTTuJ2pOI/SWoM9S5JwSI/AAAAAAAABlk/SchEzhwoczo/s400/joke.jpg 2016-03-10T04:20:32 < Laurenceb_> the only explanation 2016-03-10T04:21:42 < Laurenceb_> thats ripped straight from 4chan 2016-03-10T04:23:29 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T04:24:07 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:25:12 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:31:53 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-10T04:38:01 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T04:38:20 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:41:23 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/5FvaQFZ.gifv 2016-03-10T04:43:18 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-10T04:45:04 < FatalNIX> crt: i actually found other people's code 2016-03-10T04:45:04 < FatalNIX> they do the same exact thing I do and mine just says nope 2016-03-10T04:45:04 < FatalNIX> XD 2016-03-10T04:45:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-10T04:47:46 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:52:01 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-10T04:53:28 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-10T04:55:49 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:56:10 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T04:58:35 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/9PsqlWI 2016-03-10T05:05:56 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T05:17:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-10T05:32:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T05:34:38 < upgrdman> are there default bit rates for can bus? like uart has 9600, 115200, etc. 2016-03-10T05:35:13 < upgrdman> best i can find is this, but not sure if this is a "standard" or just some org's desire: http://support.motioneng.com/software-mpi_03_04/docs/CAN/Topics/bit_rate.htm 2016-03-10T05:36:03 < dongs> yes 2016-03-10T05:36:15 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-10T05:36:25 < dongs> its not bitrate but like MHz i think, 1MHz, 2.5, 10? or someshit 2016-03-10T05:37:00 < dongs> err 125k to 1meg 2016-03-10T05:37:26 < dongs> i dont think people use stuff in between, they either use 125k or 1meg mode 2016-03-10T05:48:22 < fenugrec> upgrdman 250 and 500kb/s are common in automotive implementations too 2016-03-10T05:56:15 < upgrdman> R2COM, no 2016-03-10T05:57:06 < upgrdman> but some of them shoved business cards under my hotel room door, lol 2016-03-10T05:57:10 < upgrdman> will post pics later 2016-03-10T05:57:49 < upgrdman> so for CAN, 125k, 250k, 500k, 1m should be plenty of choice for a customer that wants can support? 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(CBSLA.com) — A Florida mom who runs a pro-gun Facebook page was shot by her 4-year-old son Tuesday. 2016-03-10T10:46:36 < ReadError> Jamie Gilt, 31, told deputies that she was on her way to pick up a horse when her son accidentally shot her. 2016-03-10T10:46:39 < ReadError> http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/03/09/florida-mom-who-runs-pro-gun-facebook-page-shot-by-her-4-year-old-son/ 2016-03-10T10:49:18 < qyx> unfortunate 2016-03-10T10:53:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-10T10:53:30 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T10:56:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T11:04:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-10T11:04:53 < PeterM> ReadError, O.o a day in the life of "florida mom", not as interesting as "florida man" though 2016-03-10T11:23:49 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-10T11:27:54 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-10T11:37:14 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-10T11:43:43 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T11:54:56 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T11:55:04 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-10T11:56:32 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.58] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-10T11:58:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.206] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T12:03:47 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host28-15-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T12:19:12 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T12:19:38 < jadew> my new monitor arrived 2016-03-10T12:19:55 < jadew> looks blury on my desired resolution :/ 2016-03-10T12:21:06 < jpa-> why would you run it at anything except native resolution? 2016-03-10T12:21:33 < jadew> because the native resolution makes things too small 2016-03-10T12:21:50 < PeterM> have you ever heard of fuckign scaling? 2016-03-10T12:21:56 < jpa-> ah, windows user 2016-03-10T12:22:04 < PeterM> not even 2016-03-10T12:22:06 < jpa-> i wonder when they'll invent a functional high-dpi mode for windows 2016-03-10T12:22:09 < jadew> PeterM, no ammount of scaling will fix that 2016-03-10T12:22:18 < PeterM> jadew you fucking what? 2016-03-10T12:22:35 < jpa-> works fine on mac, and on linux high-dpi works just as well as linux gui ever does 2016-03-10T12:22:43 < PeterM> im pretty sure the percentage scaling between your desired resoltuion and the native resolution is the amount of scaling that will fix it 2016-03-10T12:22:44 < jadew> jpa-, no it doesn't 2016-03-10T12:22:51 < jadew> on linux is just as shit as it is on windows 2016-03-10T12:23:10 < jadew> PeterM, no, that will only affect things that take DPI into account 2016-03-10T12:23:15 < jadew> most UI elements don't 2016-03-10T12:23:30 < jpa-> what linux toolkit doesn't work just fine with different themes? 2016-03-10T12:24:01 < jadew> jpa-, linux suffers from the same issue I just mentioned, don't know about mac 2016-03-10T12:24:01 < jpa-> also for most purposes even just setting a larger font size will scale everything except icons, and most have atleast 32x32 option for toolbars etc. 2016-03-10T12:24:17 < jadew> if everything UI related is DPI based, then... good job to whoever put that rule in place 2016-03-10T12:24:46 < jadew> jpa-, not all text will scale either 2016-03-10T12:25:09 < jpa-> which is why i said "as well as linux gui ever does" :) 2016-03-10T12:25:16 < jadew> plus, the most important thing: my windows won't scale 2016-03-10T12:25:29 < jadew> I don't want to have a different vertical resolution on each of my monitor 2016-03-10T12:25:31 < jadew> that would be stupid 2016-03-10T12:25:41 < jadew> when I'd move a window from one the other its size would change 2016-03-10T12:26:13 < jadew> *to the other 2016-03-10T12:26:18 < jadew> *monitors 2016-03-10T12:26:51 < jpa-> ah, yeah, it is bad idea to buy high-dpi and normal-dpi monitors to be used together 2016-03-10T12:27:08 < jadew> I can't find a replacement for my old monitor that broke 2016-03-10T12:27:14 < jadew> this is the closest thing I found 2016-03-10T12:27:15 < jpa-> on mac they are not cheap-asses so it went right to 2x dpi, so they can easily scale legacy GUI etc. without making it blurry 2016-03-10T12:27:22 < jadew> in height and effective viewing area 2016-03-10T12:27:40 < jpa-> ah well, return it and get normal dpi monitor if that is what you want 2016-03-10T12:27:51 < jadew> jpa-, I can't find one that fits 2016-03-10T12:28:42 < karlp> FatalNIX: you should be able to happily get 115200 at 12Mhz system clock too, and you should really work out why your clock config doesn't do what you think. 2016-03-10T12:31:10 < zyp> jadew, time to replace the other monitor as well then 2016-03-10T12:31:43 < jadew> zyp, I would have, but they're two and they're 19" 4:3, I don't have room to replace them with wide monitors 2016-03-10T12:31:58 < jadew> I actually considered that 2016-03-10T12:32:21 < zyp> haha, 1280x1024? 2016-03-10T12:32:39 < jadew> crt, no, LCD :) 2016-03-10T12:33:04 < jadew> and 1024x768 - I find the 768 vertical resolution to scale things the best for where I sit at my desk 2016-03-10T12:33:22 < zyp> haha 2016-03-10T12:33:32 < zyp> you're weird as fuck 2016-03-10T12:33:41 < jadew> it's actually a very common resolution 2016-03-10T12:33:53 < zyp> but anyway, how about replacing both with a nice 2546x1440 27" or something? 2016-03-10T12:34:20 < zyp> jadew, anything but native resolution on a lcd panel is weird as fuck 2016-03-10T12:34:44 < dekar_> It's about the software support I think. The scaled 2x applications still look bad on OSX, I can easily spot them whenever I use one. But there are barely any left. 99% of the applications I use support high DPI. And it's not hard to begin with, for my own applications rebuilding them with an updated Qt framework did the trick. 2016-03-10T12:35:01 < jadew> zyp, yeah, but I get super crisp text on the 19" ones and they're not at native resolution either 2016-03-10T12:35:12 < jadew> the older 22" delivered crisp text too 2016-03-10T12:35:14 < zyp> pff 2016-03-10T12:35:23 < zyp> "super crisp" 2016-03-10T12:35:34 < jadew> btw, this is 24" and it has the same vertical size 2016-03-10T12:36:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-51.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-10T12:37:19 < jadew> I don't 2016-03-10T12:37:43 < jadew> anyway, I agree with jpa-, if they went for 2x DPI, everything would have been fine 2016-03-10T12:38:00 < jadew> instead they went for this gay HD shit and stupid aspect ratio 2016-03-10T12:40:16 < dekar_> jadew, it still looks bad with 2x scaling: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/Screen%20Shot%202016-03-10%20at%2018.39.22.png 2016-03-10T12:41:58 < dekar_> Can you give me some examples of applications that don't support high DPI on Windows? 2016-03-10T12:42:40 < dekar_> I'm just curious since on OSX the vendors took care of the problem quite quickly. 2016-03-10T12:42:53 < jadew> almost no application on windows will scale its UI based on DPI settings 2016-03-10T12:42:57 < jadew> it's all pixel based 2016-03-10T12:43:22 < jadew> I have a hard time imagining it would be different on MAC either 2016-03-10T12:43:25 < jadew> *mac 2016-03-10T12:43:51 < jadew> they probably just do text scaling and perhaps icon scaling 2016-03-10T12:44:08 < jadew> but that's 0 when you have multiple monitors 2016-03-10T12:44:28 < jadew> the key is having the same vertical resolution 2016-03-10T12:45:14 < zyp> no, the key is to have a similar ppi number for all monitors 2016-03-10T12:45:49 < jadew> zyp, no because windows will still be in pixels and as I said earlier, you move one window from one monitor to the next and it changes its size 2016-03-10T12:45:53 < dekar_> jadew, on OSX there is a flag set by the application to notify the OS it supports high DPI. But there isn't much to do for the developer, except providing higher DPI images for icons etc. Fonts are usually rendered by the OS anyway, so they automatically render smoother. 2016-03-10T12:46:01 < jadew> on top of it, they won't align properly 2016-03-10T12:46:21 < jadew> so you won't be able to move a window from the bottom of the screen for example to a smaller screen 2016-03-10T12:46:36 < zyp> jadew, well, strictly speaking I guess ppi _is_ resolution, so we agree 2016-03-10T12:46:38 < karlp> dekar_: needs vendors to actually do updates... not hard if they care, impossibru if it's some 5 year old shareware :) 2016-03-10T12:46:58 < jadew> ah, then yeah 2016-03-10T12:47:12 < jadew> but I think it's all about supporting the same ppi natively 2016-03-10T12:47:13 < zyp> jadew, but you're assuming equally tall monitors, physically 2016-03-10T12:47:25 < dekar_> karlp, how much are you using 5 year old shareware anyway? They 5 minutes of pixelation once a month are probably not a big deal, are they? 2016-03-10T12:47:27 < jadew> from what I understand this monitor supports 1440x900 natively (as a lower resolution) 2016-03-10T12:47:36 < dekar_> *The 5 minutes 2016-03-10T12:47:37 < jadew> so my desired 1366x768 gets upscaled to that 2016-03-10T12:47:54 < jadew> zyp, yeah, I needed to be equally tall too 2016-03-10T12:48:06 < jadew> *needed them 2016-03-10T12:48:11 < karlp> me, not much, but I know that there's a mountain of old windows softgware being used that isn't going to get udpated by their vendors just because someone said they should support high dpi. 2016-03-10T12:48:16 < zyp> jadew, I don't 2016-03-10T12:48:17 < ReadError> why the hell are you messing with the res? 2016-03-10T12:48:22 < ReadError> change the scaling 2016-03-10T12:48:28 < dekar_> Tbh, I would prefer to use matching monitors anyway. 2016-03-10T12:48:37 < karlp> ReadError: yeah, we've been there, he doesn't want to, he knows better :) 2016-03-10T12:48:51 < ReadError> wont everything look retarded and fuzzy? 2016-03-10T12:49:05 < zyp> I'm running my secondary monitor in portrait orientation 2016-03-10T12:49:15 < jadew> dekar_, me too, but as I was saying earlier, I don't have room to replace the older monitors with monitors of the same type as the new one 2016-03-10T12:49:23 < zyp> matching monitors are overrated, I like mismatched monitors with different advantages 2016-03-10T12:49:48 < karlp> heh, a friend here did the layout for a local news site. 2016-03-10T12:49:52 < zyp> jadew, so why not replace both with a single monitor? 2016-03-10T12:49:55 < karlp> he had a big portrait monitor, 2016-03-10T12:50:00 < dekar_> karlp, if that kind of software is an issue, just get a dedicated low DPI monitor for that, couldn't you? But I feel like at least most developers wouldn't use old software much anyway. I don't think I use any. 2016-03-10T12:50:15 < karlp> never wondered why not everyone saw the website the same as he did. 2016-03-10T12:50:30 < jadew> zyp, I used only two monitors this week and couldn't get used to it 2016-03-10T12:50:33 < karlp> dekar_: maybe not most developers, but lots of users. 2016-03-10T12:50:38 < jadew> I've been on 3 monitors for too long 2016-03-10T12:51:04 < karlp> dekar_: my family use very old versions of some windows softrware because it's _much_ faster than the newer versions, and doesn't have "features" like "cloud integration with the pay service we want you to use now" and things like htat. 2016-03-10T12:51:24 < dekar_> karlp, most users probably use MS Office and MS Edge, I'd guess both support any DPI you can throw at them. 2016-03-10T12:52:26 < dekar_> karlp, what kind of software is that? I really don't feel like I can relate. But I guess I'm mostly using open source stuff anyway. 2016-03-10T12:54:53 < dekar_> I had bought a Windows 10 tablet a while ago, and I didn't notice any high DPI problems at all. I returned it after a week because of some hardware issues, but that's unrelated. Besides that I usually don't really use Windows. 2016-03-10T12:55:40 < jadew> alright, so it looks like doing GPU scaling reduces the blurr quite a bit 2016-03-10T12:55:54 < jadew> (as opposed to display scaling) 2016-03-10T12:57:07 < jadew> alright, I can live with this 2016-03-10T12:57:22 < jadew> still worse than what I had before, but decent enough 2016-03-10T13:01:23 < karlp> dekar_: acdsee for photo viewing and tagging, new versions are completely different applications really. 2016-03-10T13:01:48 < karlp> mum has a bunch of gross old scientific software too, that's never getting updated properly. 2016-03-10T13:02:00 < dekar_> Can't you just set it to 200% and be done with it really? That's basically the same as on OSX, either applications support it and are looking perfectly fine, or they are probably blurred as in the screenshot I sent. 2016-03-10T13:02:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-51.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T13:03:42 < dekar_> karlp, I guess for an image viewer it's quite bad to have low quality visuals, I see how that could be a problem. Maybe it's time to move on and fine something else? :) 2016-03-10T13:04:30 -!- FransWillem [~quassel@5ED26F32.cm-7-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T13:05:30 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5ED26F32.cm-7-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T13:15:00 -!- _Getty is now known as Getty 2016-03-10T13:15:12 -!- fenugrec [~R@24-122-165-84.tr.cgocable.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T13:24:33 < karlp> dekar_: I did :) just saying it's easier said than done to "just get the newer version from the vendor" 2016-03-10T13:36:42 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-10T13:39:43 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T13:44:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-10T14:02:16 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T14:03:59 -!- kow is now known as k\o\w 2016-03-10T14:09:47 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-10T14:10:08 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T14:17:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-51.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-10T14:22:04 -!- fenugrec [~R@24-122-165-84.tr.cgocable.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-10T14:33:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.31] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T14:35:18 -!- esden [esden@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-10T14:36:34 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-10T14:36:43 -!- esden [esden@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T14:37:56 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T14:54:25 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-10T14:54:31 -!- wbraun_ [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T14:59:03 < jpa-> http://fpaste.dy.fi/vcy/disp http://paste.dy.fi/k6j/plain when i use dma for spi (upper trace), 1-2 first bytes of transfer get lost; any ideas why? 2016-03-10T14:59:41 < qyx> 1-2 randomly? 2016-03-10T15:09:27 < jpa-> always the same with same data but haven't seen logic 2016-03-10T15:10:02 < jpa-> in the image, compare the transactions ending in "2" and "4" 2016-03-10T15:10:29 < jpa-> bytes got dropped compared to the polled version; but in "182 1" there was no problem 2016-03-10T15:13:14 < zyp> which chip? 2016-03-10T15:15:17 < jpa-> stm32f103 2016-03-10T15:15:21 < jpa-> err 2016-03-10T15:15:22 < jpa-> 105 2016-03-10T15:15:47 < jpa-> hmm, i wonder if there might be something else triggering dma requests.. this being F1 dma 2016-03-10T15:16:41 < jpa-> hmm no, i'm not using any of other peripherals that are on that channel 2016-03-10T15:21:57 -!- pidpawel is now known as pid 2016-03-10T15:27:18 < jpa-> hmm yeah, it depends on relative lengths of header and body somehow 2016-03-10T15:27:46 < karlp> istr someone else having some missing starts on dma transfers recently, was it you though? 2016-03-10T15:29:56 < jpa-> not me 2016-03-10T15:30:38 < jpa-> hmm, looks to be caused by the toggling of the SPI_CR2_TXDMAEN while it is still transferring the last byte 2016-03-10T15:30:50 < jpa-> if i only enable that at start and disable at end, then it works 2016-03-10T15:41:21 < dongs> ya you cant do that. i remember on my OSD shit, i had to wait for transfer before killing DMA. doing it while last byte is going would trash it. 2016-03-10T15:42:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-10T15:43:51 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Design-implement-UHF-band-biotelemetry/ Laurenceb gave up on his shitty code and put it on feelancer 2016-03-10T15:45:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/threed-modelling/Produce-detailed-designs-Laptop-Notebook/ 2016-03-10T15:45:33 < dongs> > specialist experienced in Altium to provide detailed designs of a Laptop/Notebook motherboard 2016-03-10T15:45:37 < dongs> > budget: $200 2016-03-10T15:45:39 < dongs> oookay 2016-03-10T15:48:32 < kakimir> dongs: there is kenyan expertice on the job 2016-03-10T15:48:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/PCB-with-USB-other-features/ 2016-03-10T15:48:48 < dongs> > Project and prototype board must be completed in less than 2 weeks, RAPID!!! 2016-03-10T15:48:53 < dongs> > every paki bidding says 30 days 2016-03-10T15:51:03 < dongs> bed 2016-03-10T15:54:08 < kakimir> it would be good to have a such project done 2016-03-10T15:54:29 < kakimir> as a base design for stuff 2016-03-10T15:54:55 < kakimir> 3.) Battery charging circuit for external battery support 2016-03-10T15:54:57 < FatalNIX> ok. Day 2 of figuring out how to change the MSI clock freq :D 2016-03-10T15:55:13 < kakimir> MSI ? 2016-03-10T15:55:27 < FatalNIX> yeah, on the STM32L476 2016-03-10T15:55:42 < FatalNIX> it's the multi speed clock 2016-03-10T15:56:23 < kakimir> sounds fancy 2016-03-10T15:58:25 < kakimir> or something invented by marketing sector 2016-03-10T16:05:17 < FatalNIX> Well, it's a clock that I can set its' frequency with in some register from say 300Khz to 48 Mhz 2016-03-10T16:05:42 < FatalNIX> very useful, because I can configure the system clock multiplexer and others to sort of direct the MSI clock to different parts of the chip 2016-03-10T16:06:48 < kakimir> it is name for clock scaling? 2016-03-10T16:06:57 < FatalNIX> no idea 2016-03-10T16:07:01 < kakimir> or is it something more specific? 2016-03-10T16:07:13 < FatalNIX> what do you mean? 2016-03-10T16:10:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T16:11:01 < FatalNIX> the MSI clock is just an oscilator circuit with a controllable speed 2016-03-10T16:12:20 < FatalNIX> when you start to go communication signals that are a LOT faster, way faster than say 9600 bps timing becomes more important, and most of these communication signals will not cleanly run on a clock rate that is a multiple of 2 2016-03-10T16:12:23 < karlp> kakimir: Lx series has LSI/LSE/HSI/HSE/MSI, 2016-03-10T16:12:29 < karlp> Fx doesn't have the MSI... 2016-03-10T16:12:33 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T16:12:49 < FatalNIX> so I'm trying to get MSI to generate a 24 Mhz clock :) 2016-03-10T16:12:49 < karlp> FatalNIX: stop that bullshit mythi about your clock being a multiple of the uart speed. 2016-03-10T16:13:09 < karlp> people don't ahve gross uarts directly tied to system clocks these days. 2016-03-10T16:13:46 < kakimir> how controllable it is? 2016-03-10T16:13:50 < FatalNIX> karlp: you say that but once I start going past 115200 the signals start getting scrambled, the bits just don't time right 2016-03-10T16:13:54 < karlp> the uart periph has a perfeclt functional fractional divider, you can do pretty much any baud you like from just about any speed you like. 2016-03-10T16:14:06 < karlp> that's because by default yo're only running at 4Mhz from reset on L4, 2016-03-10T16:14:07 < kakimir> and is it connected to any reference or is it free running? 2016-03-10T16:14:42 < karlp> kakimir: MSI is just like HSI 2016-03-10T16:14:57 < karlp> except variable speeds, and less current consumption 2016-03-10T16:15:02 < FatalNIX> even at 8Mhz, the divisor for the UART you set throws it off really far 2016-03-10T16:15:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T16:15:30 < karlp> then you're using dividors wrong, go back and read the ref manual. 2016-03-10T16:15:36 < FatalNIX> I did 2016-03-10T16:15:37 < FatalNIX> :P 2016-03-10T16:15:43 < FatalNIX> I'm only doing what it tells me to do 2016-03-10T16:15:48 < FatalNIX> but you have to nag :) 2016-03-10T16:15:53 < karlp> well, you can't get MSI working, and you havent' worked out fractional dividers either :) 2016-03-10T16:16:16 < FatalNIX> MSI itself works fine, the issue is that I can't set the MSIRGSEL bit 2016-03-10T16:16:21 < FatalNIX> and my professor is also like, WTF? 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2016-03-10T16:57:24 < kakimir> 4 2016-03-10T16:57:33 < zyp> why you need a given layer stackup should answer what you put on each layer 2016-03-10T16:58:02 < kakimir> room 2016-03-10T16:58:09 < zyp> for what? 2016-03-10T16:58:32 < kakimir> to have signal wires traced out of high current block 2016-03-10T16:58:44 < kakimir> and in to high current block 2016-03-10T16:59:36 < zyp> most of the 4L shit I've made use inner layers just for gnd and vcc 2016-03-10T16:59:47 < kakimir> I have GND 2016-03-10T17:00:34 < FatalNIX> phew, I had network problems 2016-03-10T17:00:39 < zyp> got some project at work where I have a 8L design which has three GND layers 2016-03-10T17:02:26 < zyp> I didn't design it, but apparently I'm going to be modifying it 2016-03-10T17:02:37 < kakimir> I think if its possible then you should use one layer at time 2016-03-10T17:02:49 < kakimir> and save 4th layer for total gnd area 2016-03-10T17:02:49 < zyp> in what sense? 2016-03-10T17:02:59 < kakimir> good ground 2016-03-10T17:03:57 < zyp> well, yeah, for pretty much any designs that warrants >2L, you should probably dedicate at least one design to GND 2016-03-10T17:04:23 < zyp> layer* 2016-03-10T17:05:48 < zyp> the stackup for this 8L thing got two sets of signal-gnd-signal on the outer six layers, then power and another gnd on middle two layers 2016-03-10T17:06:35 < zyp> I believe that more complex stackups also usually have signal-gnd-signal groups 2016-03-10T17:06:53 < zyp> since one gnd plane can act as a reference ground for one signal layer on each side 2016-03-10T17:07:22 < zyp> but of course, if you're not doing high speed signals, this is probably not a huge concern to you 2016-03-10T17:07:38 < zyp> power electronics have different rules from high speed signals 2016-03-10T17:13:35 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T17:14:17 < kakimir> just do it 2016-03-10T17:18:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T17:28:00 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T17:37:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-10T17:39:51 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/ZjdbE34.png 2016-03-10T17:40:50 < kakimir> telecom is such a mafia in states 2016-03-10T17:41:17 < kakimir> 80usd subscribtion line 2016-03-10T17:41:23 < kakimir> few megs 2016-03-10T17:42:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T17:43:27 < Laurenceb_> https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/561041-980ti-darwin-awards-help/ 2016-03-10T17:43:29 < tecdroid> isn't much better in germany 2016-03-10T17:44:01 < kakimir> germany - the US of europe 2016-03-10T17:45:21 < Getty> i am always confused.... most germans dont actually know the real details how bad it is outside of the country.... ;) 2016-03-10T17:46:13 < Getty> most germans like forget that they get free slow internet if they contingent goes off 2016-03-10T17:46:18 < Getty> which is....... not happening anywhere else 2016-03-10T17:46:34 < Getty> so i have no freaking idea about what to complain really ;) 2016-03-10T17:46:42 < kakimir> contigent? 2016-03-10T17:46:53 < Getty> yeah or that ;) like the 5GB / 100$ shit 2016-03-10T17:47:14 < Getty> thats always a HIGH SPEED you pay, not for the actual traffic itself 2016-03-10T17:47:16 < kakimir> what 2016-03-10T17:47:30 < kakimir> 5GB internets= 2016-03-10T17:47:40 < Getty> was a sample ;) 2016-03-10T17:47:43 < kakimir> subscription line? 2016-03-10T17:47:53 < Getty> was talking about mobile 2016-03-10T17:48:03 < kakimir> talking about ripoff 2016-03-10T17:48:15 < kakimir> I have unlimited unlimited 3G for 22eur per month 2016-03-10T17:48:19 < kakimir> or so 2016-03-10T17:48:25 < Getty> yeah, and people say germany is also a ripoff on this and that telecommunication sector, while they never really compare 2016-03-10T17:48:39 < kakimir> 3G works as well as 4G in the forrest which means fast 2016-03-10T17:49:03 < kakimir> 3G doesnt work in city because every scum have mobile 2016-03-10T17:49:10 < kakimir> and line is full 2016-03-10T17:49:38 < Getty> we dont have such problems, i know they exist on new year but thats it 2016-03-10T17:49:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-10T17:49:44 < kakimir> practical speed around 0.9MBps 2016-03-10T17:51:18 < kakimir> I need to place phone in the right spot 2016-03-10T17:54:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T17:55:08 < Getty> and now i bought frozen to entertain a kid 2016-03-10T17:55:23 < Getty> and i cant smoke anything, i am getting frustrated ;) 2016-03-10T17:56:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-10T17:57:08 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T17:59:44 < kakimir> smoke crack? 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:D 2016-03-10T18:57:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-184-62.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T18:57:30 < Laurenceb_> its 99% of vacuum 2016-03-10T18:57:39 < Laurenceb_> also why doesnt he just use rails 2016-03-10T18:57:45 < Laurenceb_> that would keep it simple 2016-03-10T18:57:46 < Sync_> general vacuum chamber design is to design for 13bar inside pressure 2016-03-10T18:57:58 < Sync_> because dem efficiencies when you have no air 2016-03-10T18:58:24 < Laurenceb_> rails with +-10kV and interconnects every 50 to 100m to solve the airflow issue 2016-03-10T18:58:54 < Laurenceb_> then the active stability control used on china high speed rail to extend steel rail/ wheel speed limit up to crazy speeds 2016-03-10T18:59:14 < Sync_> well, if the thing crashes or fails somehow how would rescuers get in? :D 2016-03-10T18:59:19 < Getty> i am also confused why the german rail train actually gots forgotten ;) 2016-03-10T18:59:20 < Laurenceb_> explosives 2016-03-10T18:59:35 < Sync_> and then die because they get sucked in 2016-03-10T18:59:38 < Getty> it worked..... and it was never used ;) 2016-03-10T18:59:45 < Laurenceb_> also just use ~off the shelf concrete tube 2016-03-10T19:00:07 < Laurenceb_> have pyrotechnic doors and depressurization systems 2016-03-10T19:00:14 < Sync_> why not steel, it would be vacuum tight from the beginning 2016-03-10T19:00:21 < Lux> isn't the main issue with that stuff to actually build a straight line ? 2016-03-10T19:00:24 < Laurenceb_> expensive to manufacture 2016-03-10T19:00:29 < Sync_> nah 2016-03-10T19:00:32 < Sync_> just use pipeline 2016-03-10T19:00:33 < Lux> even trains can run at >500km/h 2016-03-10T19:00:37 < Laurenceb_> steel would need honeycomb and stuff 2016-03-10T19:00:41 < Sync_> no? 2016-03-10T19:00:52 < Laurenceb_> any pipeline tube would crush instantly 2016-03-10T19:01:02 < Laurenceb_> pipelines are rated to positive pressure 2016-03-10T19:01:10 < Laurenceb_> sewer pipe is negative pressure rated 2016-03-10T19:01:22 < Lux> probably the energy savings you get from a tube is neglible compared to the cost to actually implement such a system 2016-03-10T19:01:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah china high speed rail is very fast 2016-03-10T19:01:57 < englishman> lol america doesnt even build trains why would they build hyperexpensive vacuum tubes 2016-03-10T19:01:58 < Laurenceb_> but pantograph issues limit the speed 2016-03-10T19:02:01 < Lux> they could probably put up solar panels + some storage and still be cheaper 2016-03-10T19:02:05 < Laurenceb_> if he could solve that problem... 2016-03-10T19:02:46 < englishman> hypershoop is em:drive level trolling 2016-03-10T19:02:50 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-10T19:03:05 < Lux> government creating jobs i guess 2016-03-10T19:03:11 < Lux> if they pay for it 2016-03-10T19:03:15 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-10T19:03:21 < Sync_> Laurenceb_: they would not, they just have to be rated high enough 2016-03-10T19:03:36 < Sync_> and there are plenty of pipelines that can take 13bar from the inside 2016-03-10T19:03:42 < Sync_> so they would take vacuum just fine 2016-03-10T19:04:11 < Laurenceb_> hopefully... 2016-03-10T19:04:24 < Sync_> they do 2016-03-10T19:04:32 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-10T19:04:58 < Laurenceb_> not sure I would trust it unless it was rated for such operation 2016-03-10T19:05:08 < Sync_> why not? 2016-03-10T19:05:14 < Sync_> it is the same as if it was pressurized 2016-03-10T19:05:28 < Sync_> introducing hoop stress 2016-03-10T19:05:35 < Laurenceb_> no 2016-03-10T19:05:44 < englishman> yeah ihave to disagree with that 2016-03-10T19:05:45 < Laurenceb_> buckling modes are different 2016-03-10T19:06:41 < Sync_> yes, it is in compression than in tension 2016-03-10T19:06:42 < Laurenceb_> its much more complex to analyse 2016-03-10T19:06:51 < Getty> ok now i got a bluetooth regulator for my heater and it doesnt pair 8-) 2016-03-10T19:06:59 < Getty> modern technology! you betrayed me! 2016-03-10T19:09:48 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T19:10:35 < Sync_> Laurenceb_: it is not 2016-03-10T19:10:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T19:11:09 < Laurenceb_> what is there is a defect in the pipe 2016-03-10T19:11:13 < Sync_> I have designed vacuum chambers and the codes here tell you to design it as a pressure vessel for about 10-15bar overpressure 2016-03-10T19:11:14 < Laurenceb_> will it collapse? 2016-03-10T19:11:27 < Sync_> yes, it would also explode if it had a defect 2016-03-10T19:11:41 < Laurenceb_> with a pressure vessel small defects will pop out 2016-03-10T19:11:47 < Laurenceb_> as it expands 2016-03-10T19:11:47 < Sync_> that is why you xray the pipes and us inspect them every year 2016-03-10T19:11:53 < Laurenceb_> its much less of an issue 2016-03-10T19:12:18 < Laurenceb_> by defect I mean non cylindrical section 2016-03-10T19:12:58 < Sync_> you mean a dent, yes that will cause issues, but you can apply a large enough safety factor 2016-03-10T19:13:10 < Sync_> and or just not denting the tubes 2016-03-10T19:13:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T19:21:35 < kakimir> #kicad(+cnt)] [Act: 4,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15] 2016-03-10T19:21:36 < kakimir> [#kicad] 2016-03-10T19:21:51 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMWc2MFZBdTRTaVk/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-10T19:31:09 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/Fms14sS 2016-03-10T19:36:28 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T19:37:17 -!- wbraun_ [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-10T19:45:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T19:56:04 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-107-138.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-10T19:56:08 < Steffanx> Whoa such short finnish words kakimir 2016-03-10T19:56:11 < Steffanx> ie = ok? 2016-03-10T20:04:35 < kakimir> ei = no 2016-03-10T20:04:46 < kakimir> kyllä = yes 2016-03-10T20:07:01 < ReadError> mmm 2016-03-10T20:07:04 < ReadError> iphone 6s plus 2016-03-10T20:07:07 < ReadError> such nice 2016-03-10T20:07:47 < kakimir> such profits 2016-03-10T20:07:57 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@m77-218-243-22.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T20:08:15 < ReadError> eh sure 2016-03-10T20:08:19 -!- Peter is now known as Guest35990 2016-03-10T20:08:27 < ReadError> but nice 2016-03-10T20:10:49 < kakimir> can you even tell the difference from 5? 2016-03-10T20:11:17 < ReadError> yea well the plus is much bigger 2016-03-10T20:11:22 < ReadError> and its faster 2016-03-10T20:11:40 < ReadError> nicer camera too 2016-03-10T20:15:17 < kakimir> I have great satisfaction with my new netbook 2016-03-10T20:15:36 < kakimir> 7hours of works and youtube playing musics until it suspended itself 2016-03-10T20:16:02 < kakimir> this is the future shiet 2016-03-10T20:16:13 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T20:17:26 < kakimir> but playing musics - amiga soundtrack - as video from youtube is kindof reverted 2016-03-10T20:17:48 < kakimir> it sucks at least in three ways 2016-03-10T20:18:35 < kakimir> youtube interface is the suck 2016-03-10T20:19:15 < kakimir> there is excessive use of networking for such a simple task 2016-03-10T20:19:44 < kakimir> and it consumes power in terminal device 2016-03-10T20:25:03 -!- Guest35990 [~PeterK2@m77-218-243-22.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-10T20:26:33 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T20:26:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-10T20:26:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T20:40:12 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T20:40:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T20:48:01 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-10T20:56:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T20:59:24 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-48-15.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T21:03:48 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T21:07:48 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10755229 2016-03-10T21:17:29 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T21:20:17 -!- MExee [~Mexe@43.231.31.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T21:20:20 < MExee> hi 2016-03-10T21:23:10 < Steffanx> lo 2016-03-10T21:26:43 < MExee> :) 2016-03-10T21:26:46 < MExee> after lone time 2016-03-10T21:26:56 < MExee> we met again, 2016-03-10T21:27:41 < MExee> the nice world of stm32, where we walked through in nice abstraction layers, registers... i missed that world 2016-03-10T21:28:14 < kakimir> I wonder if it's any better to bury some high impendance lines than leave on top layer? 2016-03-10T21:28:36 < kakimir> not in immidite proximity of any high current or voltage traces 2016-03-10T21:29:14 < kakimir> well I have caps 2016-03-10T21:33:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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2016-03-10T22:53:06 < jadew> that's awful 2016-03-10T22:53:52 -!- kow is now known as k\o\w 2016-03-10T22:54:27 < PeterM> just get some cheap korean 27" 1440p IPS displays and be done with it 2016-03-10T22:54:48 < kakimir> just get old premium eizos and be done 2016-03-10T22:55:10 < jadew> kakimir, I might 2016-03-10T22:55:17 < jadew> I can't believe a display can be this bad 2016-03-10T22:55:30 < kakimir> jadew: did your electricity bill turn out smaller now? 2016-03-10T22:56:04 < jadew> not really, we're electrically heating the balcony so any changes wouldn't be noticeable 2016-03-10T22:57:29 < PeterM> kakimir, except those displays are like 2-3x the cost of the ones im thinking of 2016-03-10T22:58:01 < kakimir> are you suggesting some absolute dirt? 2016-03-10T22:58:05 < PeterM> nope 2016-03-10T22:58:18 < kakimir> I don't know if there is today such 2016-03-10T22:58:24 < kakimir> there was like 5years go 2016-03-10T22:58:29 < PeterM> that isnt a real sentence 2016-03-10T22:58:47 < PeterM> also, it probably doesnt have enough smas for you kakimir 2016-03-10T22:59:14 < kakimir> nowdays anything you buy new it's like quite good 2016-03-10T22:59:45 < kakimir> even dirt cheap ones 2016-03-10T23:00:45 < PeterM> http://www.koreanmonitor.com/guide-2015/ 2016-03-10T23:07:21 < kakimir> oh korean monitor is like a thing 2016-03-10T23:09:50 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:15:13 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T23:15:38 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:15:49 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-48-15.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:26:19 < Steffanx> im glad i was able to match my two dell screens ( not the same series, made 2 years after each other ) 2016-03-10T23:26:46 < jadew> I didn't buy my other two monitors at the same time either 2016-03-10T23:26:58 < jadew> they even have different button layout (but they're the same model) 2016-03-10T23:27:04 < jadew> it wasn't that difficult to match them 2016-03-10T23:27:28 < jadew> I think I'm going to get a monitor calibrator 2016-03-10T23:27:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T23:27:52 < Steffanx> Also they became smarter at dell in those years. They added a menu option to disable the power button led. 2016-03-10T23:27:59 < Steffanx> must have feature. 2016-03-10T23:28:06 < jadew> yeah, this one has it too 2016-03-10T23:28:21 < jadew> on the one that broke, I had to put tape over it 2016-03-10T23:28:28 < Steffanx> :D 2016-03-10T23:29:09 < jadew> I finally removed the tape when I tried to repair it and I was finally able to disable the LED 2016-03-10T23:29:19 < jadew> smashed it to bits with a screwdriver 2016-03-10T23:29:22 < jadew> felt good 2016-03-10T23:33:20 < jadew> shouldn't be easy to do such calibration with the phone camera? 2016-03-10T23:33:25 < jadew> all you need is a pixel 2016-03-10T23:33:44 < jadew> same shutter speed/iso setting and no white ballance 2016-03-10T23:33:58 < jadew> you read RGB on one, then make it match on the other 2016-03-10T23:35:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:39:21 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-10T23:39:56 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T23:40:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-10T23:40:54 -!- Guest35990 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-10T23:42:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:43:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:48:46 -!- svens_ [~svens@217-162-210-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-10T23:50:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T23:58:51 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-10T23:59:16 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-10T23:59:31 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] --- Day changed Fri Mar 11 2016 2016-03-11T00:02:54 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v49IB6K28BU Laurenceb_ found. NSFW 2016-03-11T00:04:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-11T00:06:50 < emeb> gah - new ST.com site is so busted 2016-03-11T00:07:16 < emeb> can't download the stm32cubef7 libs because the page for it has no link to the file. 2016-03-11T00:10:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T00:13:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T00:13:56 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T00:15:18 < Laurenceb_> http://engineerjs.com/?sidebar=docs/iir.html 2016-03-11T00:15:24 < lorenzo> emeb: http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/st_prod_software_internet/resource/technical/software/firmware/stm32cubef7.zip 2016-03-11T00:15:57 < emeb> lorenzo: thx - found an old link to the previous website & got it already. 2016-03-11T00:16:03 < lorenzo> np 2016-03-11T00:16:45 < wbraun> I am using stlink programmer with stutil to program a board. I am finding the programming fails about half the time. I have no clue what causes this. 2016-03-11T00:17:12 < wbraun> The only slightly non standard thing I have is that I connected the reset pin directly to VCC 2016-03-11T00:23:15 < englishman> emeb: funny, works for me, version 1.3.0 2016-03-11T00:23:53 < emeb> englishman: go figure 2016-03-11T00:24:07 < emeb> no "Download" button appears on my browser 2016-03-11T00:24:46 -!- karlp [~karlp@89-160-194-205.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T00:25:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-184-62.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-11T00:28:10 < Laurenceb_> http://www.micromodeler.com/dsp/ 2016-03-11T00:28:13 < Laurenceb_> fap fap fap 2016-03-11T00:30:53 < BrainDamage> what happened to methlab? 2016-03-11T00:32:31 < Laurenceb_> no gui 2016-03-11T00:32:32 < Laurenceb_> lol 2016-03-11T00:33:03 < englishman> wbraun: do you alter the pin states of swclk/swdio at any time in your program 2016-03-11T00:33:08 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-48-15.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-11T00:33:27 < englishman> usually connect under reset just simplifies things a lot 2016-03-11T00:37:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-11T00:37:26 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T00:37:34 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T00:37:39 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T00:41:46 < Steffanx> the new website is fucking terrible. I often search on a product page to get some quick idea if some part supported peripheral X. Now that information is gone or an image -_- 2016-03-11T00:48:49 < svens_> What is the preferred way to set the option bytes using SW4STM32? Is there any. I'm using an STM32F042C6 if that's relevant. 2016-03-11T00:49:20 < svens_> I see multiple ways, e.g. do it in code using the flash HAL or hacking something in the linker script? 2016-03-11T00:49:40 < svens_> though I'm pretty new to this, so this could be a bad idea 2016-03-11T00:53:43 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/r3Jtww.jpg 2016-03-11T00:55:31 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-15.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T01:08:05 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-11T01:08:34 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T01:10:25 < kakimir> I think that cat is saying "you're my bitch now" 2016-03-11T01:11:55 < kakimir> anything 30-52volt 2016-03-11T01:12:18 < kakimir> I begin with 100W led module 2016-03-11T01:12:54 < kakimir> then I may create custom led module with MT-G2 leds in it 2016-03-11T01:13:15 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMnZYenVSUWhkZE0/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-11T01:13:50 < kakimir> it's the killer atm. 2016-03-11T01:14:15 < kakimir> this is some shit series just to get started 2016-03-11T01:14:34 < wbraun> nope englishman 2016-03-11T01:14:44 < wbraun> but it seems to be some weird stored state thing 2016-03-11T01:15:08 < wbraun> It failes once, which also corrupts the flash so the program stops running, then the second attempt workds 2016-03-11T01:15:12 < kakimir> I have cnc milled enclosure with optics for that module 2016-03-11T01:16:49 < kakimir> led enclosure will have just a pile of silicone 2016-03-11T01:17:03 < kakimir> driver will have XLR 2016-03-11T01:18:49 < kakimir> and some mini 3pin connector for temp 2016-03-11T01:19:00 < kakimir> and unknown connector for 4wire fan 2016-03-11T01:19:25 < kakimir> well what else 2016-03-11T01:19:42 < kakimir> pwm, tacho, 12V, GND 2016-03-11T01:21:32 < kakimir> I wouldn't run in battery powered application 2016-03-11T01:23:30 < kakimir> I need to build bigger cooling/optics enclosure for the killer led module with MT-G2s 2016-03-11T01:23:59 < kakimir> need to put at least 150W to that led 2016-03-11T01:24:39 < kakimir> my friend milled last one in school workshop 2016-03-11T01:24:47 < kakimir> he isn't in school anymore 2016-03-11T01:25:30 < kakimir> it needs to be a jawdropper.. go big or go home 2016-03-11T01:26:03 < kakimir> it's with sport optics 2016-03-11T01:26:06 < kakimir> spot 2016-03-11T01:26:57 -!- Guest35990 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T01:40:24 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-15.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-11T01:40:30 < zyp> because they'll have to be to hire you? 2016-03-11T01:40:40 < dongs> zing 2016-03-11T01:41:48 < kakimir> there seems to be ip68 fans 2016-03-11T01:42:48 < kakimir> immersion proof would be great 2016-03-11T01:42:59 < dongs> make a boat out of fans 2016-03-11T01:43:43 < kakimir> lets? have you told them? 2016-03-11T01:43:56 < kakimir> and isn't that typical workday? 2016-03-11T01:44:07 < kakimir> you look busy... keep on 2016-03-11T01:45:07 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKel9SOXdQeGhhR0k/view?usp=sharing done for the night 2016-03-11T01:46:01 < kakimir> what is your like.. profession? 2016-03-11T01:46:51 < kakimir> seriously? 2016-03-11T01:46:54 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-15.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T01:48:44 < kakimir> you are very constructive 2016-03-11T01:49:04 < kakimir> and initiative 2016-03-11T01:50:03 < kakimir> you were so bored 2016-03-11T01:50:13 < kakimir> you actually started cleaning stuff 2016-03-11T01:50:36 < kakimir> start coding 2016-03-11T01:56:25 < kakimir> lpcxpresso 2016-03-11T01:56:37 < kakimir> just openocd it 2016-03-11T01:58:40 < kakimir> you tryna wake him up? 2016-03-11T01:58:49 < kakimir> *trynna 2016-03-11T02:00:18 < bvsh> i find that mkd5 sucks real bad as ide 2016-03-11T02:02:45 < bvsh> dunno.. say anything eclipse based or vs.. 2016-03-11T02:02:50 < bvsh> or nicely tuned emacs 2016-03-11T02:09:11 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-11T02:14:05 -!- svens_ [~svens@217-162-210-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-11T02:15:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T02:15:43 < Sync_> holy fuck that trigger jitter 2016-03-11T02:15:46 < Sync_> but yeah wat 2016-03-11T02:21:28 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-11T02:30:16 < ReadError> http://blog.atmel.com/2016/03/03/the-first-avr-device/ 2016-03-11T02:48:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T02:50:29 < Laurenceb_> lies 2016-03-11T02:50:35 < Laurenceb_> wasnt it a uni project? 2016-03-11T02:50:42 < Laurenceb_> so it should be some random FPGA board 2016-03-11T02:51:57 < Laurenceb_> http://8ch.net/pol/src/1457649785199.jpg 2016-03-11T02:54:46 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-11T03:25:53 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-11T03:26:27 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-21-15.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-11T03:28:48 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-11T03:38:17 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T03:42:03 < jadew> so... I hacked together a color calibrator but it doesn't seem to work great 2016-03-11T03:42:26 < jadew> made the RGB intensity to match perfectly, but the old one still looks warmer 2016-03-11T03:53:44 < jadew> which thing? 2016-03-11T03:55:58 < jadew> I made it out of my phone, added some paper over the camera and used an app that allows fine control of the camera 2016-03-11T03:56:09 < jadew> so I had fixed exposure iso and white ballance 2016-03-11T03:56:10 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/9rPRn.png 2016-03-11T03:56:30 < jadew> then I made a little program to fetch the screen from the phone and I'm averaging what's inside that square 2016-03-11T03:57:15 < jadew> R2COM, trying to transfer the color temperature from one monitor to the other 2016-03-11T03:59:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-11T03:59:32 < jadew> haha 2016-03-11T04:00:07 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-11T04:01:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T04:04:34 < dongs> jadew: what teh fuck are you assburgering 2016-03-11T04:04:45 < dongs> why did you buy a monitor with wled backlight in 2016 2016-03-11T04:04:58 < jadew> I didn't know they suck 2016-03-11T04:05:04 < dongs> you cant calibrate out blue hue from shit monitors, thats why you only buy GB-R backlight 2016-03-11T04:05:41 < jadew> dongs, good to know 2016-03-11T04:05:47 < jadew> I'm going to return it 2016-03-11T04:05:50 < dongs> https://pcmonitors.info/articles/the-evolution-of-led-backlights/ 2016-03-11T04:06:01 < jadew> yeah, found that link too 2016-03-11T04:06:09 < dongs> the pic mid-way the page 2016-03-11T04:06:12 < dongs> is waht you want your backlight to be 2016-03-11T04:06:18 < dongs> all 3 primaries in same level 2016-03-11T04:07:08 < jadew> I figured, did you see the picture with the two monitors side-by-side? 2016-03-11T04:07:23 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Microcontroller/PCB-with-bluetooth-GPIO-ports/ 2016-03-11T04:07:26 < dongs> ??????????????????? 2016-03-11T04:07:32 < jadew> if I get closer to it it goes blue: http://dumb.ro/files/display_angle.jpg 2016-03-11T04:07:39 < dongs> < jadew> if I get closer to it it goes blue: http://dumb.ro/files/display_angle.jpg 2016-03-11T04:07:42 < dongs> clicking 2016-03-11T04:07:47 < dongs> ya haha 2016-03-11T04:07:50 < dongs> nice 2016-03-11T04:08:52 < jadew> if I stay at the perfect center (vertically) at about 50-70cm from it, the upper part is redish and the bottom part blueish :/ 2016-03-11T04:09:11 < dongs> what hte hell shit monitor did youbuy 2016-03-11T04:09:13 < dongs> is it not IPS or something? 2016-03-11T04:09:29 < jadew> it's not 2016-03-11T04:09:33 < dongs> ... 2016-03-11T04:09:39 < jadew> it's a philips, not even midrange 2016-03-11T04:09:44 < jadew> (their midrange) 2016-03-11T04:09:51 < jadew> it's amongst the more expensive ones 2016-03-11T04:10:52 < jadew> I guess this is the last philips monitor I'll buy for a while 2016-03-11T04:12:40 < dongs> didnt know philips was eveni n business 2016-03-11T04:12:48 < dongs> of monitors 2016-03-11T04:13:23 < jadew> they are and their older models are still serving me well 2016-03-11T04:13:35 < jadew> there's no term of comparison between them 2016-03-11T04:18:04 < dongs> i have no complaints about my UP2414Q other than displayport disconnect trash 2016-03-11T04:18:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T04:18:20 < dongs> upgrdman bought it and thought the blacks were too gray, but he's a racist fuck 2016-03-11T04:18:55 < upgrdman> it might have been the monitor i got 2016-03-11T04:18:59 < upgrdman> it was a refurb from amazon 2016-03-11T04:19:18 < upgrdman> and the lg monitor i use now looks better, despite dell having lg panels iirc 2016-03-11T04:20:14 < upgrdman> usa price * 2 = aussie price, no? 2016-03-11T04:20:28 < upgrdman> since aussies get ass raped all day long? 2016-03-11T04:20:49 < jadew> it's pricey 2016-03-11T04:21:34 < dongs> UP = proper backlight/color gamut 2016-03-11T04:21:37 < dongs> (from dell) 2016-03-11T04:21:52 < dongs> since its "professional" or whatever 2016-03-11T04:29:05 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/LE8iR8G.jpg fucking microchip 2016-03-11T04:29:42 < dongs> 4L and temperature drop really almost 20C 2016-03-11T04:30:48 < jadew> you got the the therm-app? 2016-03-11T04:31:13 < dongs> sure 2016-03-11T04:31:28 < jadew> dongs, nice, is it better then the flir? 2016-03-11T04:31:52 < dongs> R2COM: here ug http://www.aliexpress.com/item/relojes-hombre-2015-New-Arrivals-Fashion-Men-Famous-Brand-Full-Stainless-Steel-Strap-Mens-Sports-Watches/32492300480.html?spm=2114.40010308.4.8.baD4pG 2016-03-11T04:31:53 < jadew> R2COM, no, you don't have to buy it to review 2016-03-11T04:32:14 < dongs> R2COM: same thing for $10 2016-03-11T04:32:16 < dongs> on aliexpress 2016-03-11T04:32:50 < jadew> I don't get expensive watches 2016-03-11T04:33:21 < jadew> if it's a fashion thing, nobody will notice it 2016-03-11T04:34:42 < jadew> I have a much better watch here 2016-03-11T04:35:04 < jadew> many orders of magnitude more accurate 2016-03-11T04:35:13 < dongs> jadew: thermapp is pretty good, obviously better resolution than flir, and also focusable 2016-03-11T04:35:28 < jadew> dongs, nice 2016-03-11T04:35:46 < dongs> which means I can go from http://i.imgur.com/XS6CUHu.jpg to http://i.imgur.com/ji1Z3MG.jpg to http://i.imgur.com/otWqU3v.jpg 2016-03-11T04:36:09 < dongs> few days ago i saw birds twittering around in my rice field from like 30 meters away in pitch black 2016-03-11T04:36:32 < dongs> flir doesnt d o that 2016-03-11T04:36:52 < jadew> the image looks noise-free 2016-03-11T04:38:21 < dongs> i like it. its same price as E4 flir, but beats E8 which is like $5k 2016-03-11T04:39:03 < dongs> looks like E8 is only 4k now 2016-03-11T04:39:24 < jadew> seek came up with a new camera too 2016-03-11T04:39:27 < jadew> 15 fps 2016-03-11T04:39:31 < dongs> lol, fuck them. 2016-03-11T04:39:41 < jadew> yeah, their sensor sucks 2016-03-11T04:39:52 < jadew> but it's good they're on the market 2016-03-11T04:39:57 < jadew> they'll push prices down 2016-03-11T04:40:53 < upgrdman> how much is the thermapp? 2016-03-11T04:41:06 < upgrdman> and is that gay font changeable? 2016-03-11T04:41:20 < dongs> that GAY FONT is my ANDROID UI FONT 2016-03-11T04:41:26 < dongs> thank you. 2016-03-11T04:41:46 < dongs> and its $950 or $995 or osmethin with free shipping direct from ISRAEL 2016-03-11T04:42:46 < upgrdman> is it also 9fps? 2016-03-11T04:43:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-11T04:43:28 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-11T04:43:32 < dongs> they also have a 30fps one 2016-03-11T04:43:35 < dongs> for liek 1k more 2016-03-11T04:43:36 < dongs> or somethin 2016-03-11T04:43:40 < dongs> jews dont care 2016-03-11T04:43:43 < dongs> about usa export restrictions 2016-03-11T04:44:44 < dongs> looks like its $939 now 2016-03-11T04:45:04 < dongs> i want that 35mm lens but not for $750 2016-03-11T04:45:04 < dongs> lolz 2016-03-11T04:53:41 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-11T04:58:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T05:04:58 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T05:06:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T05:30:29 < emeb_mac> R2COM: awesome! 2016-03-11T05:30:51 < dongs> err isnt that old as fuck 2016-03-11T05:31:02 < ReadMobl> iphone 6s plus shoots 4k 2016-03-11T05:31:26 < dongs> you mean same 4K dixus6 and uh my S6 have been doing for over a year? 2016-03-11T05:31:32 < dongs> glad to hear apple is on top of things 2016-03-11T05:32:01 < dongs> any more breakthroughs from latest steve cock-stroker event? 2016-03-11T05:32:08 < ReadMobl> is yours stuff 64bit brah? 2016-03-11T05:32:51 < dongs> R2COM: yes... 2016-03-11T05:32:55 < ReadMobl> oh 32bit 2016-03-11T05:32:57 < ReadMobl> pffft 2016-03-11T05:32:58 < dongs> er R2COM ^ 2016-03-11T05:33:01 < dongs> erre ReadMobl fucking nigger 2016-03-11T05:33:04 < dongs> yes S6 is 64butt 2016-03-11T05:33:08 < dongs> and so is dixus 6 2016-03-11T05:33:09 < dongs> who cares 2016-03-11T05:40:41 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T05:48:54 < englishman> There are phones that don't take 4k video? 2016-03-11T05:53:36 < ReadMobl> I got an invitr 2016-03-11T06:20:58 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T06:29:24 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.144] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T06:30:05 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.144] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-11T06:35:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T06:37:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T06:38:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:07:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T07:08:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:10:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:11:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T07:12:03 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-11T07:12:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:25:55 < Getty> i am just scared about the moment where amazon pushs them to increase production ;) 2016-03-11T07:27:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T07:28:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:29:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-11T07:29:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:40:38 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-11T07:40:54 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:47:27 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-11T07:49:37 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5ED26F32.cm-7-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-11T07:50:44 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5ED26F32.cm-7-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:52:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-11T07:52:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T07:56:52 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: debris`, taruti, nikomo, Shavik, FatalNIX 2016-03-11T07:58:08 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ygtzozklxvpvmxbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:02:46 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:02:46 -!- taruti [taruti@ultra.violetti.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:08:18 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:08:24 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-szacrlbsyftuwuax] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-11T08:08:29 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:10:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-11T08:21:27 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-11T08:21:55 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:25:11 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:32:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-f8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:38:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:42:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-11T08:43:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:49:53 < upgrdman> a new dell 4k monitor? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=210-AHIQ 2016-03-11T08:49:59 < upgrdman> dongs ^ you know about that one? 2016-03-11T08:51:20 < upgrdman> looks like a cheap stand though. 2016-03-11T08:51:26 < upgrdman> and no usb hub :/ 2016-03-11T08:52:12 < upgrdman> oh wtf, it's a tn panel. why is it more expensive than their ips shits. 2016-03-11T08:52:42 < upgrdman> has 2port usb hub 2016-03-11T08:53:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-f8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-11T08:56:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.210] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T08:56:37 < dongs> clicking 2016-03-11T08:56:43 < dongs> S must mean superShitty 2016-03-11T08:57:01 < dongs> who gives a shit about hub 2016-03-11T08:57:44 < upgrdman> ya i know, but it was just weird. more expensive, tn panel, fewer usb ports. 2016-03-11T08:57:48 < upgrdman> like "why" 2016-03-11T08:58:13 < upgrdman> all i can think of is "ohh glossy, we can charge more for that" or some shit 2016-03-11T08:58:24 < dongs> i'd pay maybe $100 for that thing 2016-03-11T08:58:29 < upgrdman> glossy shell, not panel 2016-03-11T09:02:27 < dongs> ohh 2016-03-11T09:02:28 < dongs> built in speakers 2016-03-11T09:02:40 < upgrdman> lol, gay 2016-03-11T09:02:48 < upgrdman> but ya, that's different i guess 2016-03-11T09:02:49 < dongs> more like great 2016-03-11T09:02:55 < dongs> i have that dell USB soundbar 2016-03-11T09:02:59 < dongs> its great 2016-03-11T09:03:01 < upgrdman> you want shit built-in speakers? 2016-03-11T09:03:06 < upgrdman> o 2016-03-11T09:03:08 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-03-11T09:03:12 < dongs> its same shit basically I guess 2016-03-11T09:03:15 < dongs> except its in the monitor 2016-03-11T09:10:48 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Shavik, taruti, nikomo, FatalNIX 2016-03-11T09:11:43 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T09:12:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T09:13:07 -!- Guest35990 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-11T09:21:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-11T09:21:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: FatalNIX, nikomo, Shavik, taruti 2016-03-11T09:26:55 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T09:27:51 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T09:34:09 < zyp> I bought some fairly cheap philips 20" in 2006 or so 2016-03-11T09:34:34 -!- trr [~pi@60.26.106.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T09:34:37 < zyp> turns out it's a VA panel and looks pretty nice, so I'm still using it as my second monitor 2016-03-11T09:42:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-11T09:47:25 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Shavik, taruti, nikomo, FatalNIX 2016-03-11T09:51:33 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-11T09:54:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: FatalNIX, nikomo, Shavik, taruti 2016-03-11T09:55:45 * trr 2016-03-11T09:56:15 -!- trr [~pi@60.26.106.172] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-11T10:01:39 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T10:03:17 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-11T10:04:03 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-11T10:11:36 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.56.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-11T10:11:59 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.56.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T10:13:12 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-11T10:13:22 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T10:16:07 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-03-11T10:17:39 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T10:17:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-11T10:51:51 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-11T10:57:10 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T11:04:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-109.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T11:19:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-11T11:20:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.75] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T11:23:34 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T11:28:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-11T11:35:56 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T11:53:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-109.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-11T11:54:13 < dongs> is there any 5.8ghz ICs like CC2500 shit 2016-03-11T11:55:21 < jpa-> DW1000? though that's for location systems 2016-03-11T11:55:33 < dongs> ya no 2016-03-11T11:55:42 < dongs> i want something with like ASK or QPSK modulation 2016-03-11T12:00:03 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-11T12:16:05 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T12:16:05 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-11T12:16:05 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T12:32:22 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-25-189.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Quit: ByeBye!] 2016-03-11T12:40:29 < dongs> you werent here when i pasted them 2016-03-11T12:40:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Design-volt-smps-power-supply/ 2016-03-11T12:41:08 < dongs> can i link this guy to some meanwell industrial supply 2016-03-11T12:41:13 < dongs> it should fit into his budget 2016-03-11T12:41:55 < dongs> 1. Total components cost should be less than 100 INR 2016-03-11T12:41:57 < dongs> haha. 2016-03-11T12:42:02 < dongs> 100 Indian Rupee equals 2016-03-11T12:42:02 < dongs> 1.490 US Dollar 2016-03-11T12:43:38 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Technical-Writing/Adding-the-name-author-list/ 2016-03-11T12:51:32 < lorenzo> why would you design something you can get already done and certified for $5? 2016-03-11T12:52:14 < lorenzo> I mean that's the bulk price for a emerson network 5V 1A psu 2016-03-11T12:52:35 < lorenzo> which is way better than what a random guy could design for a hundred bucks 2016-03-11T12:52:38 < lorenzo> bah 2016-03-11T12:52:47 < dongs> 100 bucks? 2016-03-11T12:52:50 < dongs> no his budget is $30 2016-03-11T12:52:59 < dongs> i suspect if some paki does deliver him a "design" 2016-03-11T12:53:04 < dongs> he will kill himself the moment its plugged in 2016-03-11T12:58:23 < dongs> BREAKING: Hostage situation underway at a school in Enghien-les-Bains, a northern Paris suburb; RAID, the French police counter-terrorism unit, is at the scene; suicide blast threat also reported 2016-03-11T12:58:27 < dongs> RIP 2016-03-11T12:58:37 -!- karlp [~karlp@palmtree.beeroclock.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T13:03:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T13:03:50 < englishman> The elite RAID police force has taken into custody an armed “madman” who had threatened to blow himself up in the Paris suburb of Enghien-les-Bains. 2016-03-11T13:03:53 < englishman> Boring 2016-03-11T13:04:48 < dongs> sorry ya wasnt to oexicitng 2016-03-11T13:08:52 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/O/32362255989.html 2016-03-11T13:11:01 < dongs> i bought 3 how about you 2016-03-11T13:11:41 < PeterM> actually, i'd probably buy that 2016-03-11T13:12:18 < PeterM> decent mouse pads are nice, but pretty pricy, thats like 4 mousepads right there 2016-03-11T13:14:36 < dongs> PeterM: got any rec's for 1S switching charger/power management thing? 2016-03-11T13:14:56 < dongs> or should i just shutup and look at ti.com/chargers or someshit 2016-03-11T13:15:07 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/power-management/battery-charger-ic-products.page im here but theres over 9000 choices 2016-03-11T13:17:37 < dongs> only 16 parts <= 24Vin, powerpath 2016-03-11T13:23:29 < zyp> do people still use mouse pads? 2016-03-11T13:27:05 * karlp does. 2016-03-11T13:27:14 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T13:27:23 < karlp> and if the computer shops around here are any indiciation, so do all the g4mers 2016-03-11T13:27:51 < jpa-> yeah, to play games you need a mouse pad with two gel-filled tits on it 2016-03-11T13:29:42 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T13:31:03 -!- dfgg [~damian@195.154.165.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-11T13:31:25 -!- dfgg [~damian@195.154.165.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T13:31:46 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-11T13:36:35 < zyp> why would anybody want that? 2016-03-11T13:43:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-11T13:54:17 < zyp> why? 2016-03-11T13:55:11 < zyp> do you use a proper pdf browser with TOC support? 2016-03-11T13:55:54 < zyp> do you use the TOC? 2016-03-11T13:56:04 < karlp> helps if you get pdfs that have proper indices :) 2016-03-11T13:56:09 < karlp> thankfully ST does. 2016-03-11T13:56:24 < zyp> well, paper don't :p 2016-03-11T13:56:57 < zyp> and then there's word search 2016-03-11T13:57:50 < zyp> I was going to mention revisions and shit too 2016-03-11T13:58:04 < zyp> some chips have RMs with double digit revision numbers now 2016-03-11T13:58:30 < zyp> sounds like a lot of work to keep paper copies updated 2016-03-11T13:58:42 < zyp> especially if you work on multiple stm32 families 2016-03-11T13:59:27 < zyp> I've made boards with f1, f3, f4 and l0 so far, and used devboards for a few more 2016-03-11T14:00:09 < englishman> st docs are great, all have clickable headers in sidebar 2016-03-11T14:00:29 < zyp> englishman, that's what I refer to as TOC 2016-03-11T14:00:48 < englishman> yes that 2016-03-11T14:01:28 < englishman> Document Map is a shitty name 2016-03-11T14:01:34 < zyp> I'm sure that if I had hardcopies of all ST docs I've used, it'd consume a few shelves by now 2016-03-11T14:02:20 < englishman> and yeah f103 rm is like rev 16 2016-03-11T14:02:40 < englishman> thats a lot of trees to murder 2016-03-11T14:02:48 < zyp> I think f4 RM was rev 8 last I checked 2016-03-11T14:03:36 < zyp> it's been a while since last I checked :) 2016-03-11T14:03:51 < zyp> what's new? does it cover f469 now as well? 2016-03-11T14:04:08 < englishman> itd be neat if timecube offered centralized documentation with updating 2016-03-11T14:05:10 < zyp> yeah, RM0090 is what I refer to as the f4 RM 2016-03-11T14:06:40 < zyp> last I checked it covered f405/f407, f427/f429 and crypto versions of those 2016-03-11T14:06:57 < zyp> but that was before f469 was announced, I think 2016-03-11T14:16:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T14:19:50 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T14:25:57 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-11T14:28:33 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T14:30:58 < qyx> dongs: how's your multi-usb-output charger? 2016-03-11T14:37:14 < PeterM> he said its good i asked him about it a week or two ago 2016-03-11T14:37:57 < zyp> I bought a couple of the Anker 60W 6-port chargers last year, they're nice 2016-03-11T14:38:16 < zyp> if you want a consumer solution 2016-03-11T14:58:19 < qyx> I want to charge 2-3 usb devices from a 42-60V source 2016-03-11T14:58:46 < englishman> yep just plug the shit right in 2016-03-11T14:58:51 < englishman> new usb 3.1 megajuice mode 2016-03-11T14:58:55 < englishman> no prob 2016-03-11T14:59:01 < qyx> considered that 2016-03-11T14:59:15 < qyx> but the warranty probably doesn't cover this 2016-03-11T14:59:35 < BrainDamage> keeping this trend we'll end up with usb 10 with devices plugging directly to mains 2016-03-11T15:03:53 < BrainDamage> mostly isolation annoyances, space is already premium on a phone 2016-03-11T15:04:01 < BrainDamage> try adding isolation for mains interface 2016-03-11T15:14:16 < zyp> haha 2016-03-11T15:16:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-11T15:26:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-11T15:29:42 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T15:33:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-197.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T15:40:59 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T15:41:26 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T15:41:45 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T15:43:26 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T15:43:46 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T15:50:51 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.56.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-11T15:57:04 < kakimir> I wonder if I could make current critical parts without thermal reliefs and then install them in more laborous way 2016-03-11T15:57:10 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T15:57:27 < kakimir> and if it changes anything 2016-03-11T15:58:01 < zyp> why? 2016-03-11T16:03:37 < PeterM> kakimir, you only need to put thermal reliefs on tiny parts anyway, and tiny parts arent goign to be doign crazy current so im not seeing your point 2016-03-11T16:04:19 < kakimir> tyny parts whatever 2016-03-11T16:04:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-197.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-11T16:04:37 < kakimir> I'm talking about parts that handle the current 2016-03-11T16:05:28 < PeterM> any part that handles any big amount of current isn't prone to tombstoning so dont worry about thermals 2016-03-11T16:06:03 < kakimir> qg? 2016-03-11T16:06:10 < PeterM> gate charge 2016-03-11T16:06:41 < kakimir> are you talking about fets or what? 2016-03-11T16:07:02 < kakimir> I have fets picked up already 2016-03-11T16:07:06 < kakimir> with ok gate charge 2016-03-11T16:09:25 < kakimir> i wont 2016-03-11T16:09:36 < PeterM> they're all SMAs 2016-03-11T16:09:43 < kakimir> almost true 2016-03-11T16:11:04 < BrainDamage> sma are power connectors too :J 2016-03-11T16:12:58 < BrainDamage> i could use an unleaded glass crt as cheap xray source 2016-03-11T16:13:26 < PeterM> or you could just kindly ask upgrdman 2016-03-11T16:15:15 < PeterM> no, his work does medical xrays or osmething 2016-03-11T16:18:16 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-11T16:18:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T16:20:09 < kakimir> but are you saying that 2016-03-11T16:20:27 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/EuJL4Bf.jpg# 2016-03-11T16:20:29 < kakimir> thermal reliefin is just to avoid tombstoning? 2016-03-11T16:20:52 < zyp> no 2016-03-11T16:21:27 < BrainDamage> his main problems are not strictly engineering related 2016-03-11T16:21:38 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-03-11T16:21:49 < kakimir> BrainDamage: mental issues? 2016-03-11T16:22:38 < kakimir> and make soldering with iron possible 2016-03-11T16:22:51 < kakimir> of single components 2016-03-11T16:23:25 < kakimir> I have had soldering iron to tombstone 2016-03-11T16:23:51 < kakimir> in tite 4layr board with lot of stitching 2016-03-11T16:24:07 < kakimir> or was it.. aluminum board 2016-03-11T16:24:25 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-11T16:24:31 < kakimir> I think I need acetone+oxygen burner 2016-03-11T16:24:45 < kakimir> do it like some pipework 2016-03-11T16:25:41 < kakimir> I think I should 2016-03-11T16:25:52 < kakimir> my guru hates me for using chinese vrap 2016-03-11T16:25:54 < kakimir> crap 2016-03-11T16:26:14 < kakimir> tells always of superiority of jbc 2016-03-11T16:27:42 < zyp> crt, proper equipment is half the job 2016-03-11T16:27:45 < zyp> regardless of brands 2016-03-11T16:28:01 < zyp> jbc makes really nice stuff though 2016-03-11T16:28:21 < zyp> I don't have enough experience with metcal to say 2016-03-11T16:28:43 < zyp> but my 80W weller is still decent for larger stuff 2016-03-11T16:29:16 < zyp> I'm still looking forward to the day I can justify the price of the jbc nano rework station 2016-03-11T16:29:30 < PeterM> imho metcals handpeices feel better and build quality feels better, heating is about the same for small/medium joins, jbc has more raw h=power for big jons and has wider temperature range 2016-03-11T16:29:39 < zyp> had one at previous employer, was nice as fuck 2016-03-11T16:30:07 < PeterM> imho the jbc t/c210 stuff is as small as i would go 2016-03-11T16:30:54 < PeterM> i am very familia with both of them crt, i have done my own controllers for them 2016-03-11T16:31:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T16:31:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-11T16:31:38 < PeterM> i assume you're refering to sparkybg? 2016-03-11T16:31:41 < PeterM> no that isnt me 2016-03-11T16:31:57 < PeterM> i messaged him to ask soem questions, nerver replied 2016-03-11T16:32:17 < PeterM> imho his station is over complicated 2016-03-11T16:32:21 < PeterM> also pic32 2016-03-11T16:32:26 < PeterM> nope 2016-03-11T16:32:39 < PeterM> metcal tips are liek $10 each, jbc are like $30 minimum 2016-03-11T16:33:58 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/FbyHQ8W.jpg 2016-03-11T16:34:03 < kakimir> I think I leave inner layers without thermal relief 2016-03-11T16:34:31 < kakimir> crt: how many hours of work have you done today? 2016-03-11T16:34:44 < kakimir> of which work? 2016-03-11T16:34:49 < PeterM> i much prefer metcal tip-grip distance on their standard irons 2016-03-11T16:34:59 < zyp> PeterM, shorter or longer? 2016-03-11T16:35:04 < PeterM> jbs t/c240 tip to grip sucks 2016-03-11T16:35:07 < PeterM> shorter 2016-03-11T16:35:15 < zyp> fair 2016-03-11T16:35:26 < zyp> the short distance is one of the things I like about the nano stuff 2016-03-11T16:35:33 < kakimir> such a tool - crt 2016-03-11T16:35:36 < PeterM> the jbc t/c210 is pretty good, but only tiny tips 2016-03-11T16:35:59 < zyp> also, do you replace tips often enough for cost to matter much? 2016-03-11T16:36:22 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T16:36:42 < BrainDamage> how can you live with conical tips 2016-03-11T16:36:44 < PeterM> i dont think i've ruined any tips (aside from intentionally), so i'd ahve to say no 2016-03-11T16:37:11 < zyp> I can see $60 is much if you replace a tip every month, but if they last years then the cost is pretty irrelevant 2016-03-11T16:37:12 < BrainDamage> chisel and semi conical for me 2016-03-11T16:37:13 < Steffanx> Welcome back crt 2016-03-11T16:37:18 < PeterM> BUT to buy the jbc equivilent of my metcal ones it was about 2-3x the price 2016-03-11T16:37:41 < PeterM> bent conical and chisel is very good 2016-03-11T16:38:09 < PeterM> bent conicals are extremely good for removing solder bridges 2016-03-11T16:38:09 < zyp> Steffanx, sup? 2016-03-11T16:39:20 < Steffanx> Not much zyp 2016-03-11T16:40:01 < englishman> thermaldonics has been great 2016-03-11T16:40:04 < englishman> way cheaper than metcalz 2016-03-11T16:40:16 < PeterM> build quality on JBC handles is something i dont like, after an hour or so of soldering they are almost untouchable, never had an issue wiht that and my metcal though 2016-03-11T16:40:35 < kakimir> crt: recommend some low temp solder? 2016-03-11T16:42:10 < kakimir> nice 2016-03-11T16:42:18 < PeterM> crt why u no eutectic? 2016-03-11T16:42:26 < kakimir> I have only 50 50 with 1.5copper 2016-03-11T16:42:45 < PeterM> ahh 2016-03-11T16:43:12 < PeterM> i dont think ive found a common one 2016-03-11T16:43:32 < PeterM> there are some, just not every day use opnes 2016-03-11T16:44:02 < BrainDamage> non lead depends on the actual alloy 2016-03-11T16:44:05 < PeterM> eutectic leaded solder is good though, no plastic region means as oon as its cooled a bit its good to go 2016-03-11T16:44:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-11T16:44:43 < BrainDamage> everyone is, except when they're forced not to 2016-03-11T16:45:19 < BrainDamage> i've had all sort of wacky stuff mixing various alloys 2016-03-11T16:45:33 < BrainDamage> once i got amalgamation on my tip 2016-03-11T16:45:45 < BrainDamage> i could bend it like it was rubber 2016-03-11T16:45:58 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKYWV5ZUNtVUFGd3M/view?usp=sharing I'm not that sure of things 2016-03-11T16:46:11 -!- kow is now known as k\o\w 2016-03-11T16:46:29 < k\o\w> /j #foulab 2016-03-11T16:46:34 < k\o\w> hurrr 2016-03-11T16:47:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T16:47:41 < k\o\w> I'd love a cheap alternative to that fr300 2016-03-11T16:48:11 < k\o\w> ZD985? 2016-03-11T16:49:07 < k\o\w> I guess I wasn't planning to impulse buy anything else this week... 2016-03-11T16:49:28 < zyp> is a desoldering station really any useful if you don't do much PTH work? 2016-03-11T16:49:51 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-11T16:50:02 < k\o\w> I'm trying to switch to doing as much SMD as possible but I will probably always run into through hole rework 2016-03-11T16:50:34 < zyp> I used to be all about those manual solder suction pumps and couldn't understand the point of using solder wick 2016-03-11T16:50:58 < zyp> for removing leftover solder on smt stuff, wick tends to work better 2016-03-11T16:53:22 < zyp> not messy enough :) 2016-03-11T16:53:54 < PeterM> you can see the average of my bench i nthe backgroudn of the pic i linked earlier 2016-03-11T16:54:06 < PeterM> i dont want to show much more than that 2016-03-11T16:54:49 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T16:54:50 < kakimir> crt: what kind of regulator that is? 2016-03-11T16:55:30 < kakimir> what are the modules powered? 2016-03-11T16:55:41 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/f/rRYHp.JPG <- here's the last pic I have of my home lab before I moved 2016-03-11T16:55:42 < kakimir> looks chinese 2016-03-11T16:55:50 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria 2016-03-11T16:56:27 < PeterM> weaboo fgt 2016-03-11T16:57:06 < zyp> label printer is nice, but I kinda wish I got one that could print wider labels 2016-03-11T16:57:28 < zyp> yep 2016-03-11T16:57:47 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKQjhpb1dldnhpdW8/view?usp=sharing my pileup 2016-03-11T16:58:21 < zyp> haha 2016-03-11T16:59:11 < kakimir> it is 2016-03-11T16:59:16 < jpa-> is the elephant trying to eat your smas? 2016-03-11T16:59:20 < k\o\w> PeterM, I love a good messy desk https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipO09_yxJr-dfqa_wzbusMCMWk0NGZ4mmGiuVAc 2016-03-11T16:59:30 < kakimir> I dont want to vommit on my circuit 2016-03-11T16:59:37 < kakimir> thats the issue 2016-03-11T16:59:59 < PeterM> 404. That’s an error. 2016-03-11T17:00:03 < kakimir> k\o\w: 404 2016-03-11T17:00:15 < k\o\w> https://goo.gl/photos/72bx3qC8GvcL7yAAA 2016-03-11T17:00:22 < k\o\w> google photos is sucks 2016-03-11T17:00:29 < jpa-> http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/pix/P1010615.JPG my desk as of now 2016-03-11T17:01:53 < MightyPork> hi, anyone got time to check if something I'm writing makes sense? (designing a little binary protocol) 2016-03-11T17:01:59 < MightyPork> here's my "spec" : https://github.com/MightyPork/sbmp 2016-03-11T17:02:06 < MightyPork> I'm concerned about the arbitration bit 2016-03-11T17:02:08 < MightyPork> will it work 2016-03-11T17:02:11 < PeterM> mine is probably as bad as zyp + kow combined 2016-03-11T17:02:41 < zyp> MightyPork, looking 2016-03-11T17:02:47 < MightyPork> thanks 2016-03-11T17:03:26 < jpa-> MightyPork: hmm.. so only 2 devices or multiple devices? 2016-03-11T17:03:36 < MightyPork> currently only two 2016-03-11T17:04:03 < zyp> MightyPork, mixing binary framing and ascii prints doesn't make sense 2016-03-11T17:04:08 < MightyPork> one must be "master", but it's not pre-assigned 2016-03-11T17:04:13 < zyp> as yourself if you really want to do that 2016-03-11T17:04:29 < lorenzo> I don't want to be that guy but aren't there plenty of protocols already for point to point/multipoint comms 2016-03-11T17:04:29 < MightyPork> it's not meant as a part of the protocol 2016-03-11T17:04:37 < jpa-> MightyPork: you will want to include explicit payload size, because otherwise ignoring unknown messages becomes difficult 2016-03-11T17:04:38 < MightyPork> if you have just one usart, it can be useful 2016-03-11T17:04:50 < MightyPork> oh, good point 2016-03-11T17:05:01 < zyp> yeah, I were going to mention payload size 2016-03-11T17:05:04 < jpa-> protobuf might be of interest also, though that is higher level 2016-03-11T17:05:16 < fenugrec> MightyPork why not some kind of single-wire CAN instead 2016-03-11T17:05:21 < zyp> also checksum to verify correct reception 2016-03-11T17:05:30 < fenugrec> instead of inventing yet another proto 2016-03-11T17:05:36 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T17:05:40 < zyp> fenugrec, CAN is a bit level protocol, this is a byte level framing layer 2016-03-11T17:05:51 < MightyPork> yep this is for USART 2016-03-11T17:06:01 < zyp> MightyPork, start/stop bytes without escape codes looks a bit weird 2016-03-11T17:06:07 < fenugrec> CAN specifies 8byte frames... 2016-03-11T17:06:08 < jpa-> it works, though 2016-03-11T17:06:14 < lorenzo> why stateful? 2016-03-11T17:06:16 < jpa-> well, stop is useless 2016-03-11T17:06:21 < fenugrec> but yes, the UART argument works 2016-03-11T17:06:23 < zyp> if you go out of sync, you won't know if 0x01 is the middle of a message or the start of a new one 2016-03-11T17:06:34 < zyp> and yes, stop is useless too 2016-03-11T17:06:38 < jpa-> but start + checksum will let one to recover sync eventually 2016-03-11T17:06:53 < jpa-> especially if start is made two bytes or similar 2016-03-11T17:06:54 < MightyPork> okay so if I drop stop and add cksum that's better 2016-03-11T17:07:03 < zyp> yes 2016-03-11T17:07:40 < jpa-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Level_Data_Link_Control this may be worth a look as a pre-existing "standard" 2016-03-11T17:08:00 < zyp> I suggest you split it into a framing layer and a frame ID layer 2016-03-11T17:08:19 < zyp> that way you can run the frame ID layer on top of a framed protocol if you later want to 2016-03-11T17:08:27 < zyp> (e.g. USB) 2016-03-11T17:08:36 < MightyPork> interesting, that's quite similar to what I'm doing. just more complex 2016-03-11T17:08:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T17:09:09 < englishman> http://worlddroneprix.live/video?id=4 2016-03-11T17:09:18 < MightyPork> zyp not sure I understand what you mean by the layers 2016-03-11T17:09:45 < BrainDamage> have the packetization not tied to the transport protocol 2016-03-11T17:09:59 < zyp> MightyPork, the framing layer would only be responsible for turning bytes into frames and vice versa 2016-03-11T17:10:15 < zyp> i.e. start byte, length, checksum 2016-03-11T17:10:32 < zyp> that wraps around a frame with the given length 2016-03-11T17:10:44 < MightyPork> won't that lose the continuity thing though? 2016-03-11T17:10:53 < zyp> continuity? 2016-03-11T17:11:08 < MightyPork> the session ID ties response to a request 2016-03-11T17:11:09 < Laurenceb_> heh this sounds similar to my SP1ML issues 2016-03-11T17:11:20 < zyp> MightyPork, that's not part of the framing 2016-03-11T17:11:26 < Laurenceb_> I'll stick my code up at some point.. probably a few days 2016-03-11T17:11:46 < zyp> MightyPork, you build the session ID layer on top of that 2016-03-11T17:12:24 < MightyPork> ah I see. so and payload is basically 2016-03-11T17:12:33 < zyp> MightyPork, think about how TCP is layered on top of IP, TCP takes care of session IDs, IP gets the packets where they need to go 2016-03-11T17:12:51 < zyp> and if you want to run that over a serial line, you use SLIP or PPP under IP as a framing layer 2016-03-11T17:13:31 < MightyPork> makes sense 2016-03-11T17:14:01 < zyp> USB is rather common nowadays, and USB already includes framing, so if you want to run your protocol over USB, you don't need an extra framing layer 2016-03-11T17:14:21 < zyp> so having that as a separate layer rather than an integral part of the protocol makes it more portable 2016-03-11T17:14:26 < MightyPork> oh right. I drop my checksum, length, SOF and rest is the same 2016-03-11T17:14:35 < zyp> yep 2016-03-11T17:17:50 < zyp> and regarding debug, if you want to do that over the same link, I suggest dedicating a payload type to debug messages 2016-03-11T17:23:18 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-11T17:24:23 < MightyPork> that was mostly a side note - "you can do this if you have to" 2016-03-11T17:24:40 < MightyPork> what I'm concerned about is the master/slave arbitration mostly 2016-03-11T17:24:42 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T17:25:00 < MightyPork> it looks pretty clumsy and unreliable 2016-03-11T17:25:47 < MightyPork> I need a way to avoid both sides using the same "session ID", that's what it's all about 2016-03-11T17:27:57 < fenugrec> does anyone know of a switchmode IC similar to TL494 (i.e. with error amp inputs & feedback loop routed to pins), that can go higher than 300kHz ? 2016-03-11T17:28:50 < fenugrec> that isn't a 10$ LT** IC P-) 2016-03-11T17:31:05 < lorenzo> LT pricing is something to watch out for 2016-03-11T17:31:15 < lorenzo> I got used to one of their DACs that I had sampled 2016-03-11T17:31:27 < lorenzo> too late when I realized the 1k price was $10.20 per unit 2016-03-11T17:31:28 < lorenzo> :D 2016-03-11T17:31:28 < fenugrec> crt sounds about right. I want to test a SEPIC topology with some extra stuff in the FB loop 2016-03-11T17:31:38 < fenugrec> hahah 2016-03-11T17:32:23 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T17:36:30 < fenugrec> crt I'm new to SEPICs, but from what I gather I need complementary outputs for the 2 switches, and the generic buck/boost/sepic controllers don't give me access to their error amp, they use their internal 1.2V or so bandgap ref 2016-03-11T17:37:07 < fenugrec> TL494 seemed like just the ticket, being basically just building blocks, but I'd like to go a bit higher than 300kHz 2016-03-11T17:39:36 < fenugrec> crt right. I was confusing buck-boost converters, but I need non-inverting output, so SEPIC 2016-03-11T17:40:29 < fenugrec> and this app note with "inverse SEPIC" that uses 2 switches. Anyway. Power density ? 2016-03-11T17:42:02 < fenugrec> I : 8 - 28; O : 3.3 - 24; Iout = 150mA, efficiency : anything under <1W losses will be fine. My alternate plan is a stepped boost (7/14/21/28Vo) + linear stage. 2016-03-11T17:42:24 < fenugrec> 24 @ 0.15 = 3.6W, not huge 2016-03-11T17:45:54 < fenugrec> input is 1, or 2 (series), 12V SLA batteries (I guess the real lower limit is more like ~ 11V). Output is a "programmable "programming" voltage" requirement 2016-03-11T17:46:30 < Getty> "oh no, we cut the cubes wrong! now we must throw it all away!" "nah! be cool, we just sell it as iphone product" http://www.amazon.de/Bluetooth-Lautsprecher-Pechon-Mini-LED-Licht-Freisprechen/dp/B017BFD8AA/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&qid=1457711130&sr=8-33&keywords=led+bluetooth+speaker 2016-03-11T17:46:58 < fenugrec> yes 2016-03-11T17:48:02 < fenugrec> crt it's a "thing" for reflashing automotive ECUs. 2016-03-11T17:50:21 < fenugrec> crt of course I could split it in a simple fixed boost to 28V + buck for final target, but I wanted to try a single-IC solution. Hence, I thought of TL494s 2016-03-11T17:51:22 < fenugrec> crt so, do you think I'm way off with a SEPIC ? 2016-03-11T17:53:08 < fenugrec> yeah probably. Or some weird trigger to make sure only "authorized devices" are used, etc 2016-03-11T17:53:29 < fenugrec> pretty sure nothing there will ever draw 150mA, but meh, it's the spec I'd like to meet. 2016-03-11T17:54:23 < fenugrec> ethyl ? 2016-03-11T17:55:45 < fenugrec> Note, with SEPIC I'd probably be using coupled inductors, and from there it's only a sort step for a transformer-based topo 2016-03-11T17:55:51 < fenugrec> *short 2016-03-11T17:56:44 -!- Guest35990 [~PeterK2@m77-218-228-192.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T17:57:35 < fenugrec> what ? parts-count wise... IC + switch + transfo + D 2016-03-11T17:57:45 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T18:00:06 < fenugrec> crt SAE J2534 passthru device. I'm implementing a J2534 device. The user / mfg software implements the protocol, and may require the device to route Vprog to whatever pin. 2016-03-11T18:00:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T18:00:53 < fenugrec> PS, I *am* writing some code to reflash a certain type of ECU, but the typical use case is using manufacturer-provided software. 2016-03-11T18:00:55 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has quit [Quit: NO WINE, NO WIFE, NO CARRIER] 2016-03-11T18:00:56 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-11T18:01:03 < fenugrec> It uses the ECU's Vbat 2016-03-11T18:01:14 < fenugrec> hence 12/24V in. Some vehicles might have 24V busses. 2016-03-11T18:01:25 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T18:03:04 < fenugrec> not sure how common 24V is TBH, but maybe light trucks ? I dunno. For the sake of discussion - suppose I limit myself to 11-16V input... I still want to be able to generate 24V 2016-03-11T18:03:35 < fenugrec> so I *still* need to produce an output higher or lower than Vbat. 2016-03-11T18:05:04 < fenugrec> (fwiw, I *am* writing code to reflash a certain type of ECU by duplicating some of the mfg's reprogramming sequence. Not quite done though) 2016-03-11T18:05:05 -!- Guest35990 [~PeterK2@m77-218-228-192.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-11T18:08:52 < fenugrec> crt I'm not making this shit up. "VPP Specification - the diagnostic tester shall generate the VPP flash strobe voltage [...] Nominal value 20V , current Idc min 100mA, stabilization time max 1ms". SAE J2610, I think some Chrysler ECUs have this. 2016-03-11T18:09:23 < fenugrec> actually I just looked that up, I had no idea of the 100mA figure there. I would've bet it was way lower 2016-03-11T18:11:14 < fenugrec> crt so, "silly" requirements notwithstanding, I'm interested to hear what you would do 2016-03-11T18:13:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-11T18:19:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.215] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T18:31:07 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T18:32:01 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-11T18:38:29 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T18:38:52 -!- Peter is now known as Guest9171 2016-03-11T19:02:19 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T19:11:51 < kakimir> I wonder if there is like a single part that could switch high side pmos off when min.15% 25khz 3v3 volt PWM stops 2016-03-11T19:12:32 < kakimir> so when fan pwm goes, fan actually goes too 2016-03-11T19:13:18 < jadew> why single part? 2016-03-11T19:13:32 < kakimir> idk. 2016-03-11T19:13:33 < fenugrec> bleh, TL494 isn't quite what I need either 2016-03-11T19:15:04 < jadew> kakimir, you can do it with a comparator and a low pass filter 2016-03-11T19:15:49 < jadew> unless you want it to be settable/exact 2016-03-11T19:16:51 < kakimir> hmm comparator :/ 2016-03-11T19:17:00 < kakimir> that is true 2016-03-11T19:17:52 < kakimir> I thought something like diode resistor cap signal nmos pmos resistor 2016-03-11T19:17:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:6894:a857:3497:c2d8] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T19:18:07 < kakimir> but it works only when duty 0% 2016-03-11T19:23:50 < jadew> with a nmos driving a pmos, you can use positive feedback from the pmos to the nmos gate to fully turn it on 2016-03-11T19:24:16 < jadew> it would be like a comparator, but with poorer specs 2016-03-11T19:24:46 < jadew> I don't think it will occupy less space tho 2016-03-11T19:24:57 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-11T19:24:58 < kakimir> interesting 2016-03-11T19:25:04 < jadew> so LPF => NMOS => PMOS => positive feedback to the NMOS 2016-03-11T19:25:12 < jadew> so once it's triggered, it stays on 2016-03-11T19:25:29 < jadew> pretty sure this sort of circuit has a name, but I don't know it 2016-03-11T19:25:31 < kakimir> that needs fine tuning 2016-03-11T19:25:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-11T19:25:51 < jadew> yeah, but in the same way comparator will need fine tuning 2016-03-11T19:26:00 < jadew> it's just an alternative 2016-03-11T19:28:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T19:28:58 < kakimir> like Schmitt trigger but 2016-03-11T19:29:33 < jadew> well, a schmitt trigger goes the other way too :P 2016-03-11T19:29:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-11T19:29:40 < jadew> this is just... trigger 2016-03-11T19:30:05 < kakimir> it has to go both ways 2016-03-11T19:30:26 < jadew> ah, you want it to reset itself? 2016-03-11T19:30:54 < kakimir> sure.. fan may go on and off all the time 2016-03-11T19:31:37 < jadew> ah, I thought you want to make sure the duty cycle doesn't go above 15% 2016-03-11T19:31:49 < kakimir> 15% is the min 2016-03-11T19:32:07 < jadew> you want the fan off at less than 15% and on above that 2016-03-11T19:32:15 < jadew> then yeah, schmitt trigger 2016-03-11T19:32:17 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-11T19:32:19 < jadew> and LPF 2016-03-11T19:32:26 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-11T19:32:29 < jadew> or you can do it with a MCU and compute the duty cycle 2016-03-11T19:32:34 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-11T19:32:40 < jadew> or if you have control over the thing generating the PWM, do it there :P 2016-03-11T19:32:41 < kakimir> I think I need to change mcu 2016-03-11T19:32:59 < kakimir> ppl started moaning it needs can and ethernet 2016-03-11T19:33:13 < kakimir> and I'm all out of io 2016-03-11T19:33:28 < jadew> what is it? 2016-03-11T19:34:21 < kakimir> the most generic high power led driver 2016-03-11T19:34:54 < jadew> got it 2016-03-11T19:35:30 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKel9SOXdQeGhhR0k/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-11T19:36:02 < kakimir> plenty of room for bigger mcu and ethernet magnetics? 2016-03-11T19:36:03 < jadew> you forgot some parts :P 2016-03-11T19:36:33 < jadew> looks very neat 2016-03-11T19:36:44 < kakimir> it has to have more connectivity! 2016-03-11T19:46:41 < kakimir> I also want to control buck and monitor it's current 2016-03-11T19:46:47 < kakimir> which I have no pins for atm 2016-03-11T19:47:24 < kakimir> it just turns off at UVLO or when 5volt line from driver turns off 2016-03-11T19:48:24 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-11T19:49:53 < Laurenceb_> researchers used online and telephone surveys to ask 1,040 Quebec residents, aged 16 to 64, about their sexual desires and behaviours. Nearly half the respondents reported a desire to experience at least one paraphilic behaviour and around a third of them had engaged in a paraphilic behaviour at least once 2016-03-11T19:50:03 < Laurenceb_> canuck 2016-03-11T19:50:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T19:50:25 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-11T19:53:09 < englishman> more like 2016-03-11T19:53:21 < englishman> everywhere else is just so repressed 2016-03-11T19:53:44 < kakimir> being cannuck is being the best? 2016-03-11T19:54:02 < englishman> i rhyme in the morning, before i get dressed 2016-03-11T19:54:20 < englishman> to be in a country with sexual freedom i am blessed 2016-03-11T19:55:44 < kakimir> I need some very small ethernet transformer 2016-03-11T19:55:56 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T19:57:01 < kakimir> I still have waterproofed ethernets connector frame somewhere 2016-03-11T19:57:05 < kakimir> or splashproofed 2016-03-11T19:57:18 < kakimir> it cost honey at local store 2016-03-11T20:00:10 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777237.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:00:45 < Laurenceb_> britain http://imgur.com/QXsgR1f 2016-03-11T20:01:42 < kakimir> is there any gain using 10M ethernet instead of 100M 2016-03-11T20:02:06 < jadew> Laurenceb_, that's not her, is it? 2016-03-11T20:02:17 < Steffanx> kakimir, please dont ask questions like that. 2016-03-11T20:02:28 < Steffanx> *beakimir 2016-03-11T20:02:35 < Laurenceb_> jadew: yes 2016-03-11T20:03:13 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: is 100 greater than 10? 2016-03-11T20:03:24 < Laurenceb_> what is 2 plus 2? 2016-03-11T20:04:28 < kakimir> I mean in parts and software and communication 2016-03-11T20:04:51 < kakimir> when no high speed is required 2016-03-11T20:05:00 < jadew> probably cheaper 2016-03-11T20:05:07 < jadew> and may consume less power 2016-03-11T20:05:13 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-11T20:05:41 < kakimir> how about noise immunity and distance? 2016-03-11T20:06:22 < jadew> 100 Mbps ethernet should be able to negociate lower speeds 2016-03-11T20:06:41 < kakimir> is 10M future proof? 2016-03-11T20:06:46 < jadew> of course 2016-03-11T20:07:16 < jadew> pretty sure you won't find an IC that does 100 but doesn't do 10 2016-03-11T20:07:23 < Steffanx> Go en28j60 2016-03-11T20:07:25 < Steffanx> *enc 2016-03-11T20:09:38 < kakimir> looks big dummy 2016-03-11T20:09:46 < kakimir> huge 2016-03-11T20:10:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:16:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-11T20:21:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:22:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T20:28:07 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:31:24 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-11T20:34:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:43:44 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:50:45 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-11T20:53:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-11T20:54:27 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:57:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T20:58:10 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ygtzozklxvpvmxbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:00:52 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:03:45 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-maqienjeecjiskdj] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:10:27 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-maqienjeecjiskdj] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:11:33 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ysjaekyivslkxgmu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:13:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-11T21:14:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:14:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:16:21 < kakimir> any recommends for level upping from absolute low end mcu to ethernet one that is still low end? 2016-03-11T21:16:35 < kakimir> absolute low end = lpc1111 2016-03-11T21:17:07 < kakimir> and 33pin pack to 48pin or so 2016-03-11T21:17:26 < lorenzo> kakimir: lpc1768 has Ethernet iirc 2016-03-11T21:18:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:18:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-11T21:18:49 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:18:57 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-11T21:19:12 < kakimir> I would like to try to avoid it 2016-03-11T21:19:18 < kakimir> it's cheap 2016-03-11T21:19:19 < kakimir> but 2016-03-11T21:19:22 < kakimir> it's drit 2016-03-11T21:19:23 < kakimir> dirt 2016-03-11T21:19:27 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-03-11T21:19:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:19:56 < Lux> you can use all the joy of mbed then :P 2016-03-11T21:20:26 < kakimir> oh 2016-03-11T21:20:55 < Lux> iirc mbed os should also be out soon 2016-03-11T21:20:58 < kakimir> some dillo have bought actually pin compatible chip to my shelf 2016-03-11T21:21:11 < kakimir> lpc1764 2016-03-11T21:21:14 < Lux> stuff arm is busily working on 2016-03-11T21:21:28 < kakimir> and not only one but a pile 2016-03-11T21:22:17 < kakimir> using heavy drugs would be more inexpensive than being this hamster filling shelves with smas 2016-03-11T21:22:27 < kakimir> and lpcs 2016-03-11T21:23:52 < Lux> aren't smas like 10c a piece ? 2016-03-11T21:24:32 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-11T21:31:08 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/NXP/LPC1764FBD100551/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhX%2fDYY38vlUG7TRQ1y6G3bx4Jdbl1ve1tnglUp1xxsvA%3d%3d 2016-03-11T21:31:24 < kakimir> lpc1111 is like.. 1eur 2016-03-11T21:31:58 < kakimir> oh.. 1.8eur 2016-03-11T21:36:01 < kakimir> some 64pin would do just great 2016-03-11T21:39:01 < lorenzo> Lux: smas? 2016-03-11T21:39:27 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ysjaekyivslkxgmu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:40:08 < Lux> sma pcb connectors 2016-03-11T21:42:23 < lorenzo> ahh 2016-03-11T21:42:30 < kakimir> hard to have ethernet mcu without too much of stuff 2016-03-11T21:42:35 < kakimir> and pins 2016-03-11T21:42:41 < kakimir> and price 2016-03-11T21:42:51 < lorenzo> kakimir: there's wiznet w7500 2016-03-11T21:43:22 < lorenzo> 2.08$ 1ku 2016-03-11T21:43:35 < lorenzo> m0 2016-03-11T21:44:33 < kakimir> no thanks 2016-03-11T21:46:08 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/tHE4gmn 2016-03-11T21:46:12 < Laurenceb_> how EU formed 2016-03-11T21:46:59 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ahkffjhbnqinjyny] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T21:49:21 < kakimir> how you like EU Laurenceb_ ? 2016-03-11T21:50:04 < Laurenceb_> probably voting for leave 2016-03-11T21:50:06 < Laurenceb_> just to troll 2016-03-11T21:50:46 < kakimir> it's like it would matter 2016-03-11T21:51:05 < kakimir> uk economy is doomed 2016-03-11T21:55:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T21:55:54 < MightyPork> got a new version of my USART data protocol - https://github.com/MightyPork/sbmp 2016-03-11T21:56:07 < MightyPork> you can look if you spot anything obviously stupid ;-) 2016-03-11T21:56:09 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:57:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-11T21:59:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T22:00:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-11T22:00:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T22:03:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T22:05:13 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/gRhmEsh 2016-03-11T22:08:50 < kakimir> MightyPork: why should the protocol be used? 2016-03-11T22:10:39 < MightyPork> well *I* will use it 2016-03-11T22:11:00 < MightyPork> but when it's fully fleshed out and some lib for it exists, I think it could be fairly useful 2016-03-11T22:21:20 < Mikk36> How do I go about figuring out why my STM32F103RB is hanging if it just stops executing the code and if I halt the execution with a debugger after it stops "working", it halts at this? 2016-03-11T22:21:21 < Mikk36> https://github.com/mbedmicro/mbed/blob/master/libraries/mbed/common/ticker_api.c#L70 2016-03-11T22:21:25 < Mikk36> https://github.com/mbedmicro/mbed/blob/master/libraries/mbed/common/ticker_api.c#L70 2016-03-11T22:21:35 < Mikk36> err 2016-03-11T22:21:39 < Mikk36> https://gist.github.com/Mikk36/ae77de175a4d2d3679b6 2016-03-11T22:22:11 < Mikk36> This gist is put to the log of debugger when I hit the "Stop debugger" button 2016-03-11T22:37:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T22:37:54 < MightyPork> ugh mbed 2016-03-11T22:40:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T22:51:48 < Mikk36> Well, it seemed the easiest for me to grasp with little to no C/C++ experience 2016-03-11T22:52:44 < Mikk36> What I can't figure out though is that sometimes it works for hours/days, sometimes it stops executing in a minute 2016-03-11T22:53:46 < Mikk36> Same thing now, got the previous hang in a few minutes, after a reset command it's been running for over 30 minutes now 2016-03-11T22:56:47 < kakimir> MightyPork: you should look at canbus? 2016-03-11T22:58:10 < MightyPork> is canbus something else than CAN? Because I am building a layer on top of USART 2016-03-11T22:58:22 < MightyPork> kakimir: ^ 2016-03-11T22:58:45 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T22:59:27 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ahkffjhbnqinjyny] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-11T22:59:44 < kakimir> can = canbus 2016-03-11T23:00:31 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-unyivhjcdudsajtl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T23:00:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T23:08:44 < kakimir> how quickly software can be cloned if the chip is not tampering proof? 2016-03-11T23:08:52 < kakimir> or easily 2016-03-11T23:09:42 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/NXP-Semiconductors/LPC1758FBD80551 found 80pin ethernet chip 2016-03-11T23:13:29 < kakimir> I think it's absolute maximum number of pins.. 2016-03-11T23:17:41 < jpa-> kakimir: "tampering proof" is not a boolean value.. and if it was, the answer would be "as quickly as you can connect a programmer"? 2016-03-11T23:21:53 < kakimir> i mean if you put software in some cortex chip 2016-03-11T23:21:58 < kakimir> lock it down 2016-03-11T23:22:21 < kakimir> does it make difference to chinese to get that software out? 2016-03-11T23:22:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-11T23:22:56 < jpa-> eh 2016-03-11T23:23:09 < jpa-> "some cortex chip" does not afford a specific answer 2016-03-11T23:23:14 < jpa-> neither does "lock it down" 2016-03-11T23:23:45 < jpa-> and least of all does "to chinese", as if they are a single bunch of people with the same skill level 2016-03-11T23:25:07 < jpa-> but why would any chinese dude want to clone your software anyway, when they can just write better? 2016-03-11T23:25:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-11T23:26:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-11T23:27:58 < kakimir> true 2016-03-11T23:28:18 < kakimir> if it's single piece of software why not 2016-03-11T23:36:43 < emeb> anyone here have experience with ILI9341 LCD controllers? 2016-03-11T23:37:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-11T23:40:22 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/DhS0wPN 2016-03-11T23:45:11 < Steffanx> Tectu The Display Man, your halp is required. 2016-03-11T23:46:12 < Tectu> emeb, I do 2016-03-11T23:48:15 < emeb> Tectu: thought you would. :) 2016-03-11T23:48:57 < emeb> Tectu: question - is there a 64k limit on the number of SPI bytes that can be sent to the ILI9341 for a given CS assertion? 2016-03-11T23:49:25 < emeb> Seems like if I send more than that it just ignores them 2016-03-11T23:50:46 < Tectu> emeb, I can't remember anything like that about the ILI9341. Never had an issue like that with that chip. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist 2016-03-11T23:51:15 < Tectu> emeb, the uGFX driver doesn't handle that case and as that driver is pretty well tested and nobody ever reported an issue like that I don't think that it exists 2016-03-11T23:52:28 < emeb> Tectu: thanks. Looking at some of the other drivers out there I don't see that either. But my hardware says otherwise. 2016-03-11T23:53:09 < Tectu> emeb, did you check revision specific erratas or something? Also, are you 100% sure that the issue is not on the microcontroller side? 2016-03-11T23:53:52 < emeb> Tectu: haven't checked revisions yet, and not 100% sure it's not a bug in my code. Just exploring... --- Day changed Sat Mar 12 2016 2016-03-12T00:01:43 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T00:14:18 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-12T00:27:14 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-unyivhjcdudsajtl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-12T00:29:26 < emeb> Tectu: found a bug - all good now. 2016-03-12T00:29:36 * emeb keeps on derpin' 2016-03-12T00:30:09 < Tectu> emeb, great! :) 2016-03-12T00:30:26 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T00:32:26 < emeb> Tectu: I'm putting this together for a client who wants a 320x240 LCD on an STM32F746. I've got simple stuff working, but I suspect he's going to want a full blown gfx lib. 2016-03-12T00:33:04 < Tectu> emeb, may I recommend µGFX at this point? 2016-03-12T00:33:07 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-yeysrsjgpkejysfs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T00:33:18 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-12T00:33:20 < emeb> Tectu: Yes - I'm wondering if uGFX would be a good option for him. He's knows graphics but at a pretty high level. 2016-03-12T00:34:23 < Tectu> emeb, ugfx.org/features.html 2016-03-12T00:34:57 < Tectu> emeb, note that this is just a small excpert. ugfx has a ton of features, all of which are completely optional to make sure that the resulting code is small and fast 2016-03-12T00:35:23 < emeb> Tectu: good - I assume it's possible to strip it down to just the graphic stuff. 2016-03-12T00:35:59 < Tectu> emeb, no reason to strip it down. Everything is disabled by default :) 2016-03-12T00:36:14 < Tectu> emeb, there are different modules. one of which handles just the graphic part 2016-03-12T00:36:38 < Tectu> emeb, http://wiki.ugfx.org/index.php/Architecture 2016-03-12T00:36:43 < emeb> Tectu: cool. I'll take a look and see if I can make sense of it. 2016-03-12T00:36:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-12T00:37:00 < Tectu> emeb, this is the graphics module (called GDISP): http://wiki.ugfx.org/index.php/GDISP 2016-03-12T00:37:43 < emeb> Tectu: the big issue is that this display would require ~153kB of RAM for a full backing store and that would be a show stopper. 2016-03-12T00:37:59 < emeb> so some sort of direct rendering would be a big help 2016-03-12T00:38:24 < emeb> (or at least smaller buffers) 2016-03-12T00:38:28 < Tectu> emeb, uGFX doesn't requier a framebuffer: http://wiki.ugfx.org/index.php/Display_Driver_Model 2016-03-12T00:38:46 < Tectu> emeb, read that article. uGFX supports three different types of 'display drivers' 2016-03-12T00:38:58 < emeb> Tectu: cool - looking now 2016-03-12T00:40:17 < Tectu> emeb, the GDISP module provides an optional feature called 'pixmap'. Those are dynamic framebuffers. You can make a small framebuffer of any size to render some more intensive things into it and then just burst-write it to the display. That way you get the performance of a frame-buffer system while not requireing the entire memory for a real frame buffer 2016-03-12T00:40:35 < Tectu> emeb, http://wiki.ugfx.org/index.php/Pixmaps 2016-03-12T00:40:47 < emeb> Tectu: that makes sense - it was what I was considering. 2016-03-12T00:43:18 < Tectu> emeb, list of already-supported-stuff: ugfx.org/platforms.html 2016-03-12T00:43:38 < Tectu> emeb, but of course it's very easy to add new drivers. The interface is quit easy yet flexible 2016-03-12T00:44:09 < emeb> I see the one I'm using is already there 2016-03-12T00:44:44 < Tectu> ILI9341 is quite common 2016-03-12T00:45:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T00:45:29 < emeb> Tectu: thx - I'll point the client at your site and see what he thinks. 2016-03-12T00:45:54 < Tectu> emeb, thanks for referring. Very appreciated 2016-03-12T00:46:11 < Tectu> emeb, happy to answer any questions 2016-03-12T00:46:28 < emeb> Tectu: much appreciated 2016-03-12T00:47:25 < Tectu> emeb, note that you can directly connect a bare display panel to the STM32F746 without the need of any dedicated display controller like the ILI9431. 2016-03-12T00:47:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T00:47:49 < Tectu> emeb, that way you can take advantage of the hardware acceleration offered by the LTDC/DMA2D peripherals in the MCU. 2016-03-12T00:48:18 < emeb> Tectu: Indeed - the platform we're using only has SPI and a few GPIO though, so we're stuck with the bottleneck. 2016-03-12T00:48:43 < Tectu> emeb, you might consider using a different display controller if performance is a concern. 2016-03-12T00:53:08 < kakimir> anyone recommend ethernet mcu under 100pins? 2016-03-12T00:53:55 < Tectu> kakimir, I think there are some STM32F2 models for that 2016-03-12T00:54:05 < Tectu> F207 if I remember does that 2016-03-12T00:54:10 < Tectu> not sure, really. 2016-03-12T00:54:43 < kakimir> could you technically utilize multiple of spi peripherals to act as RMII ? 2016-03-12T00:54:50 < kakimir> : 2016-03-12T00:54:55 < kakimir> :| 2016-03-12T00:54:59 < Tectu> o.O 2016-03-12T00:55:20 < ds2> aren't there small F107's? 2016-03-12T00:56:15 < kakimir> sweet 2016-03-12T00:56:17 < kakimir> there is 2016-03-12T00:56:56 < kakimir> 64pin 2016-03-12T01:00:57 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM32F107RBT6/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhWlUF2EGqvyKnPOgy%2fqn%252bnPIv13ZWidP5OXDO9oVVUfw%3d%3d 2016-03-12T01:01:00 < kakimir> there it is 2016-03-12T01:01:28 < kakimir> inexpensive, small, ethernet enabled M3 2016-03-12T01:02:01 < Tectu> yeah, the F207 seems more expensive 2016-03-12T01:03:31 < kakimir> why can't it be this simple to have a part needed 2016-03-12T01:04:29 < kakimir> with nxp you pay overprice for rather old chip series and get more stuff and pins you need 2016-03-12T01:04:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:6894:a857:3497:c2d8] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-12T01:07:14 < BrainDamage> why are you using nxp then 2016-03-12T01:08:36 < kakimir> not like I am using anything 2016-03-12T01:09:50 < kakimir> more receint series looks better and also the absolute low end 2016-03-12T01:12:31 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-12T01:13:19 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T01:14:39 < kakimir> but with this chip I throw my vendor loyality out of window 2016-03-12T01:15:15 < kakimir> at least partially 2016-03-12T01:31:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T01:33:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-12T01:37:00 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 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[~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T03:43:14 < Laurenceb_> kakimir is a mong http://cdn.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-N.gif 2016-03-12T03:43:25 < Laurenceb_> everything is explained 2016-03-12T03:45:22 < dongs> is there any real difference in charging for li-ion and li-po 2016-03-12T03:47:38 < PeterM> li-po is li-ion, so no difference 2016-03-12T03:48:03 < dongs> still trying to find cheap switching chinacharger 2016-03-12T03:48:13 < dongs> anyone besides TI make popular charger management stuff? 2016-03-12T03:48:16 < PeterM> singe or multicell? 2016-03-12T03:48:19 < dongs> single cell 2016-03-12T03:48:25 < dongs> but like 50Wh 2016-03-12T03:48:30 < PeterM> sec 2016-03-12T03:48:35 < dongs> so needs to be switching and charge at like 1A at least would be nice 2016-03-12T03:48:50 < dongs> the dildo is pretty big, 24h charge time is lame 2016-03-12T03:49:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-12T03:50:07 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-12T03:54:32 < Laurenceb_> lul drama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTEbEEwoJg 2016-03-12T03:55:31 < PeterM> mp2617 2016-03-12T03:55:35 < PeterM> dingle 2016-03-12T03:56:26 < PeterM> dongs even 2016-03-12T03:56:46 < dongs> o lets see 2016-03-12T03:56:49 < dongs> sounds like MPS 2016-03-12T03:57:27 < PeterM> it is 2016-03-12T03:57:49 < dongs> aww, fuck. input voltage is a bit lame, but I'll ahve to do with 12V brick i guess 2016-03-12T03:58:08 < dongs> looks good otherwise 2016-03-12T03:58:15 < PeterM> china has them cheap too iirc 2016-03-12T03:58:18 < dongs> right 2016-03-12T03:58:20 < dongs> it seems so 2016-03-12T03:58:40 < dongs> why the shit is it more efficient at 5Vin 2016-03-12T03:59:04 < PeterM> pretty much always with any dcdc the closer vin to vout hte more efficient 2016-03-12T03:59:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T03:59:38 < Laurenceb_> sup http://imgur.com/G6A6lho 2016-03-12T03:59:45 < PeterM> in the case of buck, the peak currents arent as high or something 2016-03-12T04:00:33 < PeterM> dongs whats wrong with 12v charger for dildo, should reduce 24 hour charge to like 3.5 or somehting 2016-03-12T04:00:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T04:03:33 < dongs> ya 2016-03-12T04:03:38 < dongs> well i was gonna use 19V laptop brick 2016-03-12T04:03:41 < dongs> like 90W shit or whatever 2016-03-12T04:03:43 < dongs> but yeah this will do 2016-03-12T04:04:10 < dongs> just that you can buy those 19V laptop shits anywehre 2016-03-12T04:04:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-12T04:04:35 < PeterM> sif you cant buy 12v pwoer bricks everywhere too 2016-03-12T04:04:41 < PeterM> but yes, agree 2016-03-12T04:05:16 < dongs> how does sys load work? is that regulated 5V regardless of input? 2016-03-12T04:06:27 < dongs> hm the other typical circuit has that shorted to bat 2016-03-12T04:07:53 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.116] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T04:08:24 < dongs> * Tiny Package Features Small Size. 2016-03-12T04:08:29 < PeterM> syws is regulated to 4.2v, or batt voltage 2016-03-12T04:08:43 < PeterM> it is pretty small tbh 2016-03-12T04:08:58 < PeterM> for integrated fets etc 2016-03-12T04:09:18 < dongs> if its just vbat why does sysfb even exist to be able to set it? 2016-03-12T04:09:42 < PeterM> because when you disconnect the batt from sys you need way to measure sys 2016-03-12T04:09:53 < dongs> battery is permanently attached here tho 2016-03-12T04:10:09 < PeterM> i thoguht there was internal fet 2016-03-12T04:10:27 < dongs> there is, the usual power path pair of fets thats external in all other TI shit i looked at 2016-03-12T04:10:38 < dongs> they're inside on this one which is great 2016-03-12T04:11:05 < PeterM> also hwos the 1.5meggahurt switching freq 2016-03-12T04:11:12 < dongs> anyway, ok so my sys voltage is basically the battery charging voltage or the battery voltage when its not charging 2016-03-12T04:11:16 < dongs> yeah thats great 2016-03-12T04:12:33 < dongs> looks like i can just leave sysfb floating 2016-03-12T04:12:36 < dongs> and save 2 resistors 2016-03-12T04:12:41 < PeterM> noice 2016-03-12T04:12:58 < dongs> SYS DC-DC regulator output to power the system load and charge the battery. 2016-03-12T04:13:05 < dongs> yeah so basically it'll be either charge voltage or battery volrage. 2016-03-12T04:13:14 < dongs> which will be somewhere <= 4.2V or wahtnot 2016-03-12T04:13:14 < dongs> kk 2016-03-12T04:13:21 < dongs> looks good enough 2016-03-12T04:17:13 -!- akuma [~akuma@2a02:2028:73f:6901:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T04:19:50 < dongs> http://12.192.228.62/DesktopModules/DocumentManage/API/Document/GetDocument?id=1115 2016-03-12T04:19:56 < dongs> they still use a giant inductor 2016-03-12T04:20:04 < dongs> but yeah i guess, for 3A 2016-03-12T04:20:10 < dongs> at least its onyl 1.2UH 2016-03-12T04:22:43 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.116] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-12T04:23:52 < dongs> oh wtf 2016-03-12T04:23:54 < PeterM> depending on your design perameters you'll probably want 4a saturation minimum 2016-03-12T04:24:05 < dongs> MPS has MP2617A / MP2617B on site 2016-03-12T04:24:10 < dongs> wiht *lower* input voltage 2016-03-12T04:24:11 < PeterM> yer 2016-03-12T04:24:18 < PeterM> 14v is fine though 2016-03-12T04:24:27 < PeterM> because thats what DS says 2016-03-12T04:24:27 < dongs> ya 2016-03-12T04:24:33 < dongs> oh never mind the non-A/B is also there too 2016-03-12T04:24:39 < dongs> i thought A/B was newer or somethign 2016-03-12T04:24:52 < dongs> didnt scroll down into parametrics enough 2016-03-12T04:25:39 < dongs> ya the WORST inductor they used is 4.8A 2016-03-12T04:25:52 < dongs> ill just clone somethin up from sunlord with similar specs 2016-03-12T04:26:20 < PeterM> hmm... dongs in datashet under applications, *smart phone, * e-book, * GPS, *Portable Media Player, * Tablet PC, * Portable Hand Held solution - is portable hand held solution code for dildo 2016-03-12T04:26:31 < dongs> haha 2016-03-12T04:26:37 < dongs> portable final solution 2016-03-12T04:26:47 < PeterM> portable last measure 2016-03-12T04:27:05 < Sync_> oh speaking of which dongs, do you have a chian cloner fab that does high power inductors? 2016-03-12T04:27:25 < dongs> sync, duno about "high power" but the sunlord stuff have a bunch of differnt stuffs 2016-03-12T04:27:30 < PeterM> shitlord electronics 2016-03-12T04:27:35 < Sync_> 3kW PFC inductors 2016-03-12T04:27:39 < Sync_> is what I need 2016-03-12T04:27:40 < dongs> ya no sorry 2016-03-12T04:27:42 < PeterM> iirc i loked and no high power stuff 2016-03-12T04:27:51 < PeterM> max is like 6A or something 2016-03-12T04:28:14 < dongs> http://www.sunlordinc.com/detail.aspx?cid=90261 2016-03-12T04:28:17 < PeterM> sync you want like 20a 100mH inductors or something? 2016-03-12T04:28:25 < dongs> 10A 3225 bead inductor 2016-03-12T04:28:49 < PeterM> whats the inductance? similar to that os a 3225 pcb trace... 2016-03-12T04:29:11 < dongs> heha yeah its just a filtering shit bead 2016-03-12T04:29:44 < Sync_> PeterM: more like 60A 2016-03-12T04:30:11 < PeterM> and probably more like 3.3mH or something 2016-03-12T04:30:22 < Sync_> nah 2016-03-12T04:30:28 < Sync_> like 88µH 2016-03-12T04:30:48 < PeterM> ahh, thats pretty achieveable then wiht some xbox hueg sendust cores 2016-03-12T04:30:53 < Sync_> too bad dongs, but thanks 2016-03-12T04:30:56 < Sync_> yes 2016-03-12T04:30:58 < Sync_> it is 2016-03-12T04:31:13 < Sync_> but I'd prefer a solution I can buy 2016-03-12T04:31:13 < Sync_> :D 2016-03-12T04:31:15 < dongs> http://www.sunlordinc.com/PDFCatalog.aspx#8 lol what the hell 2016-03-12T04:31:19 < dongs> why do they have PCB in the list there 2016-03-12T04:32:34 < PeterM> Sync_, how many do you need? 2016-03-12T04:32:48 < Sync_> like 10 2016-03-12T04:33:02 < PeterM> ahh, jsut buy some cores here http://www.aliexpress.com/store/407105 and wind em yourself 2016-03-12T04:33:19 < PeterM> they will wind em for you too but only for like 250+ 2016-03-12T04:33:19 < dongs> SWPA4020S1R2NT nice clone of the WORST thing 2016-03-12T04:33:41 < Sync_> fucc that PeterM 2016-03-12T04:33:44 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/p6JkHu.png 2016-03-12T04:33:53 < Sync_> no round cores 2016-03-12T04:34:04 < PeterM> hahaha 2016-03-12T04:34:23 < Sync_> I'm not hating my life that much 2016-03-12T04:34:26 < PeterM> you want some pot cores 2016-03-12T04:34:49 < Sync_> and I'm really careful when it comes to china magnetics 2016-03-12T04:36:10 < Sync_> http://de.aliexpress.com/item/5kw-iron-silica-alumina-inductance-inverter-filter-inductor-pfc-inductor-coil/1574484772.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6,searchweb201602_2_505_506_503_504_10034_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201603_1&btsid=c1be577d-cc8a-466d-9caf-da68710a8d4e 2016-03-12T04:36:15 < Sync_> huh 2016-03-12T04:36:51 < dongs> spule 2016-03-12T04:37:09 < PeterM> whats that weight, like 0.8kg? 2016-03-12T04:37:24 < Sync_> it says 200g 2016-03-12T04:37:45 < PeterM> pssh, bare core would weigh almost that much 2016-03-12T04:37:50 < Sync_> I have no idea if they are bullshitting tho 2016-03-12T04:38:00 < Sync_> because the PM core I have is much larger than that 2016-03-12T04:38:10 < Sync_> but it is only N27 shiet 2016-03-12T04:38:16 < Sync_> and no sendust round core 2016-03-12T04:38:37 < PeterM> send em message 2016-03-12T04:39:07 < PeterM> be like can you give me dataheets for the core and tell me how many turns of what wire 2016-03-12T04:39:48 < Sync_> yeah 2016-03-12T04:41:16 < Sync_> yeah no fucking idea 2016-03-12T04:41:29 < Sync_> I'll get it working with my current core and then look for some ready stuff 2016-03-12T04:42:00 < PeterM> http://www.sendust.com/CS1625026.htm park your car in the middle of that core 2016-03-12T04:43:24 < Sync_> that is a pretty serious core 2016-03-12T04:43:39 < Sync_> I love how they scanned the catalog 2016-03-12T04:43:45 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-12T04:43:49 < dongs> for clonecores? 2016-03-12T04:44:15 < PeterM> i chuckle but you know what?? atleast the scanned the catalogue instead of nto givin any data 2016-03-12T04:44:35 < dongs> ARNOLD has a girly name in chiense 2016-03-12T04:44:52 < dongs> o thats not a name 2016-03-12T04:45:07 < Sync_> the problem is that you need to measure every fucking core :/ 2016-03-12T04:45:24 < dongs> sync, how is that a problem? you wanna play but you dont wanna do anything 2016-03-12T04:45:26 < dongs> lazy cunt 2016-03-12T04:45:28 < Sync_> got bitten at $jerb with shitty chinacores 2016-03-12T04:46:00 < Sync_> nah, I just want to make it easy for people to replicate it 2016-03-12T04:47:13 < PeterM> 3kw pfc core... hmmm what is it you're making? 2016-03-12T04:50:50 < Sync_> a 3kw pfc 2016-03-12T04:50:55 < Sync_> obv 2016-03-12T04:52:12 < PeterM> no fucking shit 2016-03-12T04:53:26 < PeterM> if i say i need a 1200mm x 1800mm steel frame capable of holding 3ton and someoen asks whats ti for i dont say " holding 3 ton" i say "for a trailer for me car" 2016-03-12T04:55:58 < dongs> TIL magnet in chinese and jap is same character 2016-03-12T04:55:58 < Sync_> I'm making a supply module for our servodrive 2016-03-12T04:56:06 < dongs> i wonder who stole from who!! 2016-03-12T04:56:34 < dongs> sync is developing new KUK robot arms 2016-03-12T04:56:35 < emeb_mac> china stole 2016-03-12T04:56:42 < emeb_mac> the steal everything 2016-03-12T04:57:02 < emeb_mac> poor intellectual property protections 2016-03-12T04:57:21 < PeterM> Sync_, ahh still that 2016-03-12T04:57:49 < Sync_> "still" 2016-03-12T04:58:05 < Sync_> well, it's not like it is going to go away really quick 2016-03-12T04:59:14 < PeterM> yeah, i understand that but it's not like the first time i heard you mention it was jsut yesterday 2016-03-12T05:00:08 < Sync_> it wasn't just yesterday 2016-03-12T05:00:19 < Sync_> I have not mentioned it here for a while 2016-03-12T05:00:30 < PeterM> i know, that is my point 2016-03-12T05:01:26 < PeterM> also, i mean no offense, i was jsut surprised you are still working on it, given it has been quite a while 2016-03-12T05:02:07 < Sync_> well, it is challenging on a few levels 2016-03-12T05:03:37 < Sync_> and the overall systems engineering requires a lot of shit 2016-03-12T05:03:46 < Sync_> tha is why I'm now designing a pfc 2016-03-12T05:05:30 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T05:07:08 < Sync_> and it is not like I work on it daily 2016-03-12T05:08:23 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/yTPeDYo.jpg 2016-03-12T05:34:16 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-12T05:35:11 < dongs> omg fuck chinks still using protel99 for stuff 2016-03-12T05:35:30 < dongs> when you import that trash to altidong all the pours and shit literally just become lines of stuff 2016-03-12T05:35:37 < dongs> so you cant edit it or anything just have ot redo all 2016-03-12T06:16:42 < englishman> haha, b&h photo online store is closed for the sabbath 2016-03-12T06:18:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T06:21:42 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-12T06:22:32 < dongs> ya typical jewish activity 2016-03-12T06:27:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T06:30:47 < englishman> is this typical jap soda https://goo.gl/photos/HU2rrPHrNGotUBtU8 2016-03-12T06:30:51 < englishman> there was a marble in it 2016-03-12T06:30:54 < englishman> pretty cool design 2016-03-12T06:32:08 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T06:32:32 < dongs> thats lamune or watever 2016-03-12T06:32:39 < dongs> thats just how they sell that shit duno why 2016-03-12T06:32:58 < PeterM> englishman, i thought this was typical japanese soda https://i.warosu.org/data/ck/img/0045/04/1369350292435.jpg 2016-03-12T06:33:09 < englishman> oh nice 2016-03-12T06:33:24 < PeterM> iirc it isnt japanese but murican 2016-03-12T06:39:34 < dongs> loo 2016-03-12T06:40:01 < dongs> you can tell by the freedom units on the bottle 2016-03-12T06:40:05 < dongs> nobody in japan would use FL.Oz 2016-03-12T06:59:26 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-12T07:06:52 < englishman> are you allowed to type your own irc chats on the sabbath, or do you have a goyim do it for you 2016-03-12T07:11:12 < PeterM> yeah, the copper wires mark the boundary of his house so he can freely use the internet to commune wiht others on the 7th day. 2016-03-12T07:12:33 < englishman> but surely typing is manual labour 2016-03-12T07:13:10 < englishman> maybe he has japspeak-recognition and turns it on before dusk 2016-03-12T07:13:59 < PeterM> cmon rolling your face isnt manual labour, whattre ya talking about 2016-03-12T07:15:13 < PeterM> http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-28-2015/MTW9aP.gif dongs typing 2016-03-12T07:26:55 < dongs> https://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDarnZQIF5fDsRjGg/giphy.gif i thought you'd link this 2016-03-12T07:32:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-12T07:44:35 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/03ZMWS5.jpg 2016-03-12T07:47:33 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-236.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T08:20:31 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T08:36:05 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by 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livejasmin 2016-03-12T10:14:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4febe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T10:14:52 < dongs> non-bugging pour repour shit in 16.0.8 is surely great 2016-03-12T10:15:39 < dongs> i wish i knew how to get rid of the fucking pcb drc violations panel that comes up every fucking time i run drc 2016-03-12T10:15:49 < dongs> I already have the fucking html report why the fuck do I ened that paneL!? 2016-03-12T10:18:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.215] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T10:20:27 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T10:28:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4febe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T10:32:26 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T10:43:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T10:45:21 < dongs> ugh 2016-03-12T10:45:30 < dongs> they still ahvent fixed that hole/slot shit 2016-03-12T10:45:44 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T10:49:37 < jpa-> http://hackaday.com/2016/03/11/microchips-publishes-usb-mass-storage-loader/ such amazing technology, PICs have usb bootloader now.. wait no, it needs separate PIC for just running the bootloader 2016-03-12T10:50:25 < dongs> uh 2016-03-12T10:50:28 < dongs> didnt mbed do that shit 2016-03-12T10:50:32 < dongs> for literally years 2016-03-12T10:50:41 < dongs> THANKS, MICROSHIT! 2016-03-12T10:50:59 < jpa-> for example yeah, and mbed can also do it on one processor 2016-03-12T10:51:06 < dongs> right 2016-03-12T11:12:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T11:15:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-12T11:23:17 < Mr_Sheesh> same on Atmel's AVR bootloaders 2016-03-12T11:24:06 < PeterM> Fat Pizza's Pizzas, they're big and they're cheesy, hello? 2016-03-12T11:25:59 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T11:29:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.99] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T11:30:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-12T11:42:16 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T11:54:39 -!- akuma [~akuma@2a02:2028:802:fa01:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T11:56:43 < dongs> such trash 2016-03-12T11:59:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T12:16:24 < Steffanx> R2COM is her pimp? 2016-03-12T12:22:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-12T12:23:27 < dongs> whats a simple 3D cad that can open/write .step that I can actually use 2016-03-12T12:23:50 < dongs> < 50meg download and must be usable by poeple who have no idea 2016-03-12T12:24:07 < dongs> sketchup probly doesnt import/export step in free version eh 2016-03-12T12:24:56 < dongs> Open Source Ecology Summary: STEP->STL (FreeCAD) ->DAE (Blender) -> Sketchup . 2016-03-12T12:24:59 < dongs> lmao. 2016-03-12T12:25:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T12:27:20 < Steffanx> Welcome back crt 2016-03-12T12:27:28 < Steffanx> hows it pumpin' 2016-03-12T12:28:41 < Steffanx> yes that too 2016-03-12T12:31:05 < Steffanx> you better pay $80 then dongs. 2016-03-12T12:33:33 < dongs> for closed-sores sketchup? 2016-03-12T12:33:57 < Steffanx> closed sores plugin for sketchup. if free does plugins 2016-03-12T12:34:22 < dongs> chttp://www.sketchup.com/education/grants/higher-ed 2016-03-12T12:34:24 < dongs> http://www.sketchup.com/education/grants/higher-ed 2016-03-12T12:35:05 < dongs> do people even fucking make useful product information pages anymore? 2016-03-12T12:35:37 < dongs> lol its $700 2016-03-12T12:35:39 < dongs> fuck that.; 2016-03-12T12:35:53 < dongs> theres not a single page on that site that lists what formats it can open/export 2016-03-12T12:36:20 < Steffanx> buy trail. 2016-03-12T12:36:32 < dongs> nono 2016-03-12T12:36:34 < dongs> all i want to se is 2016-03-12T12:36:39 < dongs> a list of shit they can import/export 2016-03-12T12:36:44 < dongs> where's the fucking SPECIFICATIONS page 2016-03-12T12:36:51 < dongs> their entire site is a fucking joke 2016-03-12T12:37:01 < dongs> "go to our youtube channel to learn" 2016-03-12T12:37:03 < dongs> learn what? 2016-03-12T12:37:08 < dongs> how to waste hours watching dumb videos???????????????? 2016-03-12T12:37:25 < Steffanx> Raging saturday? 2016-03-12T12:39:16 < dongs> http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000153 2016-03-12T12:39:59 < Steffanx> no luck. 2016-03-12T12:42:22 < dongs> just the fact that I had to spend 5 minutes to find this info 2016-03-12T12:42:29 < dongs> disqualifies this app from ever being useful 2016-03-12T12:42:41 < dongs> if you dont have this kinda shit on front page of whatever the fuck you're trying to sell, fuck off 2016-03-12T12:44:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T12:51:28 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-12T12:53:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T12:55:05 < upgrdman> so im tempted to buy a new jacket or sweater. is there any awesome shit i should know about? like a jacket/backpack combo or someshit? 2016-03-12T12:55:18 < dongs> in china? 2016-03-12T12:55:22 < dongs> can you even get anything real t here 2016-03-12T12:55:28 < dongs> it'd be liek a clone jacket 2016-03-12T12:55:45 < upgrdman> no i was gonna buy when im back in the first world 2016-03-12T12:57:04 < upgrdman> actually in the area im at, theres a lot of legit shops, but funny thing is that few in china will pay for quality, so if i want quality it often costs MORE then in the usa 2016-03-12T12:57:24 < dongs> yeah, no doubt 2016-03-12T12:57:51 < upgrdman> like i was tempted to buy a 4k monitor here, but its all tn panels unless i want to overpay for some ips monitor 2016-03-12T12:58:35 < dongs> lol TN 4K 2016-03-12T12:58:42 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-03-12T13:06:24 < PeterM> crt 2016-03-12T13:06:25 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/fMOli7b.jpg 2016-03-12T13:08:09 < PeterM> jesus fuck crt that video is old 2016-03-12T13:08:23 < PeterM> i'll fite u irl m8, maccas carpark punchy, 10 mins 2016-03-12T13:08:29 < PeterM> nah jks 2016-03-12T13:21:08 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T13:23:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-12T13:31:55 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T14:00:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T14:02:09 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 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kakimir> it's called chrome 2016-03-12T14:37:26 < PeterM> ... 2016-03-12T14:37:32 < Steffanx> or do you mean that bugmenot stuff? 2016-03-12T14:37:33 < ReadError> you mean like the shared logins? 2016-03-12T14:37:36 < ReadError> ya that 2016-03-12T14:37:36 < PeterM> i dont mean YOUR account details 2016-03-12T14:37:42 < PeterM> Steffanx, thats the one 2016-03-12T14:37:51 < PeterM> kakimir, ReadError you're both fuckign idiots 2016-03-12T14:37:55 < Steffanx> too bad that doesnt work very well anymore 2016-03-12T14:38:12 < Steffanx> in my experience 99.9/100 no longer works 2016-03-12T14:38:26 < kakimir> are we talking of wallet of some kind? 2016-03-12T14:38:33 < ReadError> I know about bugmenot 2016-03-12T14:38:47 < ReadError> but your phrasing didnt really specify that 2016-03-12T14:39:04 < Steffanx> "that shouldnt require logins" <= yes it did 2016-03-12T14:39:28 < PeterM> ^ 2016-03-12T14:42:44 < kakimir> you mean it fills some generic account and password and logs in? 2016-03-12T14:42:51 < ReadError> its shared shit 2016-03-12T14:42:58 < ReadError> but most the time it doesnt work 2016-03-12T14:43:35 < dongs> http://zeptobars.com/en/read/GD32F103CBT6-mcm-serial-flash-Giga-Devices sup CLONERS 2016-03-12T14:43:38 < kakimir> sounds very 2003 2016-03-12T14:43:41 < dongs> spoiler: it executes from sram 2016-03-12T14:44:03 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777237.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T14:44:42 < PeterM> dongs bout fuckin time 2016-03-12T14:44:45 < ReadError> dongs from irc 2016-03-12T14:44:45 < dongs> ^_- 2016-03-12T14:47:23 < dongs> so, for > 128k devices, they must have soem smart pre-caching shit? 2016-03-12T14:47:28 < dongs> that sticks flash stuff into ram on-demand? 2016-03-12T14:47:50 < dongs> or I geuss I just need to send him some 3meg chips 2016-03-12T14:49:15 < kakimir> is that some stm32 clone something? 2016-03-12T14:49:24 < dongs> yes 2016-03-12T14:49:32 < kakimir> by naming scheme I would assume 2016-03-12T14:49:46 < kakimir> how much a piece? 2016-03-12T14:49:52 < dongs> cvheaper than stm32, obviosuly 2016-03-12T14:50:02 < dongs> or else would be pointless. 2016-03-12T14:51:23 < kakimir> but how much? 2016-03-12T14:51:33 < dongs> you cant afford it 2016-03-12T14:51:55 < kakimir> that might be true 2016-03-12T14:52:44 < dongs> R2COM: comment on chinaiclayout plz 2016-03-12T14:52:52 < dongs> looks like wasted space to me 2016-03-12T14:53:16 < dongs> also: which part is the cortex core? 2016-03-12T14:53:18 < dongs> isnt that shit really tiny 2016-03-12T14:53:22 < kakimir> dongs: is that sram mirror invisible to user? 2016-03-12T14:53:27 < dongs> correct 2016-03-12T14:53:53 < dongs> i guess thats how they claim "0 wait states" when executing from "flash" lol 2016-03-12T14:56:11 < Steffanx> R2COM is busy with his jasmine stuff i guess :P 2016-03-12T14:56:25 < Steffanx> -e 2016-03-12T14:57:41 < PeterM> R2COM, busy with live jizzmin 2016-03-12T14:58:51 < Tectu> stop porn 2016-03-12T14:59:39 < Steffanx> Stop the internet. 2016-03-12T15:00:28 < kakimir> is that china chip faster than original one? 2016-03-12T15:05:20 < kakimir> is this true? 2016-03-12T15:08:10 < qyx> anyone actually tried to break a nucleo board in two parts? 2016-03-12T15:08:19 < qyx> I mean removing the stlink part 2016-03-12T15:08:54 < kakimir> most propably has 2016-03-12T15:10:09 < qyx> pls 2016-03-12T15:11:48 < kakimir> I cut the programmer parts out of my lpcxpresso boards until I found you really don't have to 2016-03-12T15:11:55 < kakimir> or should 2016-03-12T15:16:19 < lorenzo> qyx: nah 2016-03-12T15:19:44 < kakimir> sun is heating god damn 2016-03-12T15:19:55 < kakimir> it's too hot in house 2016-03-12T15:20:19 < kakimir> propably over 22celsius! 2016-03-12T15:21:23 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T15:21:48 < Tectu> snow cone 2016-03-12T15:23:24 < kakimir> I excite my body with lots of coffee 2016-03-12T15:24:21 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined 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Thanks for the chips go to dongs from irc. 2016-03-12T15:27:58 < Tectu> everybody loves dongs 2016-03-12T15:28:01 < dongs> ok who else gonna paste that line 2016-03-12T15:28:09 < dongs> PeterM: lol @ busy 2016-03-12T15:28:46 < dongs> isnt livejizzmin all fat american cunts that cant even be trolled 2016-03-12T15:28:59 < dongs> i remember in 2001-something we used to troll some camsite that used IRC as chat protocol 2016-03-12T15:29:08 < dongs> who was all staffed by some retarded flips 2016-03-12T15:29:38 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T15:29:46 < dongs> their flash client ratelimited spam but if you spammed via irc it was nonstop lulz 2016-03-12T15:30:49 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@tkoskine.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T15:31:39 < dongs> i wonder if RC boats are OK to do on ocean? or are they for like clean water only 2016-03-12T15:33:08 -!- tkoskine [~tkoskine@tkoskine.me] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T15:33:24 < ReadError> salt water is fine 2016-03-12T15:33:38 < ReadError> just clean out the cooling tubes after 2016-03-12T15:33:53 < ReadError> thats how it keeps the esc/motor cooled 2016-03-12T15:34:00 < dongs> rite 2016-03-12T15:34:03 < dongs> hm 2016-03-12T15:34:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T15:34:14 < dongs> i guess there's stuff so it doesnt just flood inside? 2016-03-12T15:34:25 < ReadError> its like a coil 2016-03-12T15:34:27 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-12T15:34:37 < ReadError> think of watercooled pc 2016-03-12T15:34:44 < dongs> heh 2016-03-12T15:34:45 < ReadError> goes in 1 hole, out another 2016-03-12T15:36:57 < lorenzo> mh 2016-03-12T15:41:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-12T15:42:35 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-12T15:53:23 < dongs> oh 2016-03-12T15:53:43 < dongs> large-flash size GD manual just says "no wait time within first 256K" 2016-03-12T15:53:57 < dongs> so bigger ones have 256k sram cache, and other stuff is fetched on -demand above. 2016-03-12T16:01:48 < ReadError> dongs when is your vaperape device coming out 2016-03-12T16:03:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T16:04:27 < ReadError> loading mine up now 2016-03-12T16:04:52 < ReadError> gonna get super blitz'd then fire up altidumb and finish something 2016-03-12T16:12:18 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T16:18:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/s5204W9.jpg 2016-03-12T16:19:31 < ReadError> put it in my mouth and pull the trigger to use? 2016-03-12T16:26:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T16:30:19 -!- akuma [~akuma@2a02:2028:802:fa01:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-12T16:32:50 < kakimir> I wonder what you need for the full set of MII pins in 64pin micro 2016-03-12T16:33:09 < kakimir> or even in F107 series but I don't know 2016-03-12T16:33:34 < kakimir> it's like 20pins total for ethernets 2016-03-12T16:33:39 < kakimir> or close 2016-03-12T16:34:50 < kakimir> 18 2016-03-12T16:36:21 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T16:41:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T16:52:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-12T16:53:21 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/raCQQ195/IMG_1396.PNG 2016-03-12T16:53:28 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hZ8GJ6O2/IMG_1397.PNG 2016-03-12T16:53:32 < ReadError> le sigh 2016-03-12T16:57:48 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:01:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:04:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:12:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:16:39 < Steffanx> After trump your most favourite yankees uh, ReadError? 2016-03-12T17:17:09 < ReadError> yea i have bought the 49.99 ingame credits very often 2016-03-12T17:18:33 < ReadError> i just find it hard to believe that 21k people played it, let alone wrote reviews 2016-03-12T17:25:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:27:47 < englishman> dongs: nice, zeptobars came thru 2016-03-12T17:28:24 < Sync_> yep 2016-03-12T17:29:26 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:29:26 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:29:28 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:29:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:29:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:30:05 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:30:05 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:30:05 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-12T17:31:02 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:31:07 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:31:31 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:31:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:33:00 < Sync_> hm 2016-03-12T17:33:09 < Sync_> the flash says philly 2016-03-12T17:34:10 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:802:fa01:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:35:04 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:35:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.151] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:36:38 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:37:04 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:45:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:48:01 < kakimir> but what a piece of turd this 107Vx is.. they have stuffed all alternative functions in same pins with ethernets 2016-03-12T17:49:49 < kakimir> I try to figure if I get number of ADCs I used to have.. i2c connectivity seems to be lost 2016-03-12T17:52:53 < kakimir> no there is remap for it 2016-03-12T17:55:21 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lH2vuaN384 2016-03-12T17:55:26 < Laurenceb_> what /pol/ faps to 2016-03-12T17:55:41 < qyx> wat lost 2016-03-12T17:55:57 < qyx> I used 64pin F107 with ethernet and i2c 2016-03-12T17:56:08 < Laurenceb_> ooh thats niceish 2016-03-12T17:56:12 < Laurenceb_> small 2016-03-12T17:56:16 < kakimir> yes there is remap for i2c because of ethernets 2016-03-12T17:56:59 < qyx> ok, 2 day hobby project ongoing 2016-03-12T17:57:07 < qyx> 3 cup anemomenter with 411RE nucleo 2016-03-12T17:57:14 < qyx> -n 2016-03-12T17:57:20 < dongs> freelancin? 2016-03-12T17:57:33 < qyx> i need to find the right equation to convert rpm to wind speed without calibration 2016-03-12T17:58:04 < kakimir> hmm :] 2016-03-12T17:58:08 < qyx> no, checking if wind generator is feasible 2016-03-12T17:58:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T17:58:31 < dongs> qyx, take this job isntead https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Build-Network-stack-bootstrap-code/ 2016-03-12T17:59:21 < qyx> Python programming required to setup Apache on controller 2016-03-12T17:59:23 < qyx> I don't get it 2016-03-12T17:59:35 < dongs> oh, never mind that 2016-03-12T17:59:40 < dongs> check how much that is in $ / hour 2016-03-12T17:59:51 < qyx> yep, 5e/hr 2016-03-12T17:59:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-12T18:07:22 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-12T18:08:09 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:09:59 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.23] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:11:41 -!- perillamint^fall [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:12:19 -!- KreA [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-12T18:12:19 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-12T18:12:19 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxhwpodqhrtaazjw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-12T18:12:35 < kakimir> minimum wage here.. is more 2016-03-12T18:12:39 < kakimir> I think 2016-03-12T18:16:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T18:16:58 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjlkspciumupqnsa] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:23:05 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Microchip/KSZ8091RNAIA-TR/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduixafWWbmQBHAONfUc%2fMKaHR3Zk8tsuQGzsYn8VskSKqA%3d%3d check this piece 2016-03-12T18:23:16 < lorenzo> 5 eur / hour ?! 2016-03-12T18:23:31 < dongs> 5? 2016-03-12T18:23:32 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.23] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-12T18:23:38 < dongs> 3 usd = 2.6eur 2016-03-12T18:23:47 < lorenzo> ah, so not even a big mac and a can of coke here 2016-03-12T18:23:47 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-12T18:23:48 < qyx> 400 inr 2016-03-12T18:23:50 < kakimir> industrial temperature range, small size, 24pin, inexpensives 2016-03-12T18:23:56 < dongs> did he raise it? 2016-03-12T18:24:04 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:24:11 < qyx> I don't know, I saw 100-400 2016-03-12T18:24:13 < dongs> o okay maybe i just saw average bid 2016-03-12T18:24:14 < dongs> lulz 2016-03-12T18:24:21 < dongs> which was $3 at the main listing 2016-03-12T18:24:25 < lorenzo> ah yeah average bid is 2.4 eur/hr 2016-03-12T18:24:26 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-12T18:24:35 < qyx> yes 2016-03-12T18:24:37 < lorenzo> can buy chewing gums or half a pack of cigarettes 2016-03-12T18:24:38 < lorenzo> :> 2016-03-12T18:25:02 < dongs> looks like you're ready to paki for an hour 2016-03-12T18:25:19 < lorenzo> Python programming required to setup Apache on controller. 2016-03-12T18:25:19 < lorenzo> .. what 2016-03-12T18:25:26 < lorenzo> qyx: me neither lol 2016-03-12T18:26:41 < lorenzo> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/card-code-for-atmaga/ 2016-03-12T18:26:59 < dongs> it was all good 2016-03-12T18:27:01 < dongs> until .excel form 2016-03-12T18:27:09 < lorenzo> "data will store as .excel form " 2016-03-12T18:27:10 < lorenzo> eh yeah :D 2016-03-12T18:27:25 < lorenzo> how do you see projects on there? 2016-03-12T18:27:33 < lorenzo> looks like you need an account or something 2016-03-12T18:27:44 < dongs> ya man 2016-03-12T18:27:51 < dongs> feelancer is my new money making place 2016-03-12T18:28:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:36:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-12T18:36:57 < artag> really ? I thouhgt it was your new source of endless amusement now zano's gone 2016-03-12T18:37:13 < artag> are there actually things worth doing there ? 2016-03-12T18:37:32 < dongs> does i tlook like it from teh shit i have been pasting? 2016-03-12T18:37:39 < artag> nope 2016-03-12T18:37:41 < dongs> :) 2016-03-12T18:37:58 < englishman> zanos legacy lives on 2016-03-12T18:38:48 < Laurenceb_> https://vimeo.com/110040719 2016-03-12T18:39:06 < Laurenceb_> hivemind confirmed 2016-03-12T18:40:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T18:42:10 < artag> woo, creepy. it's like looking at someone talking to their reflection 2016-03-12T18:44:26 < artag> one of them needs a big H symbol on her forehead (red dwarf reference) 2016-03-12T18:49:32 < bvernoux> dongs, woo freelancer is amazing 20 to 30USD for a ful development ;) 2016-03-12T18:49:48 < dongs> ya 2016-03-12T18:49:53 < bvernoux> If there is serious guy which want to work for such small money I will give tons of projects 2016-03-12T18:50:04 < dongs> go for it 2016-03-12T18:50:11 < dongs> there's a ton of clueless pakis there 2016-03-12T18:50:17 < dongs> the problem is that they will just create useless shit 2016-03-12T18:50:18 < dongs> :) 2016-03-12T18:50:23 < bvernoux> yes it is the problem 2016-03-12T18:50:39 < dongs> like this one guy who keeps reposting 6 layer mobile phone layout project 2016-03-12T18:50:41 < bvernoux> anyway what do you want to ask for 20 to 30USD ... 2016-03-12T18:50:44 < dongs> for $250 budget 2016-03-12T18:50:58 < dongs> and at some point he posted the previous guys "design" 2016-03-12T18:51:04 < dongs> he used 1206 caps for all bypass caps 2016-03-12T18:51:10 < dongs> around like 800pin bga 2016-03-12T18:51:18 < bvernoux> glurps ;) 2016-03-12T18:51:24 < bvernoux> a total fail ;) 2016-03-12T18:52:06 < bvernoux> if some guys are ready to work on open source code on STM32 I can give free boards 2016-03-12T18:52:45 < dongs> people who are capable of working dont want free boards. 2016-03-12T18:52:51 < dongs> they can do them themselves. 2016-03-12T18:52:57 < dongs> free hardware *never* works. 2016-03-12T18:53:16 < dongs> https://twitter.com/reece_crowther?lang=en hey look reece crowther deleted all his t wats 2016-03-12T18:53:52 < bvernoux> yes I know but it is work for community 2016-03-12T18:57:51 < dongs> http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/TC54 why the fuck would one use this? 2016-03-12T19:01:49 < dongs> why the hell are half of TI battery gauge shits include 'SHA1 authentication" 2016-03-12T19:01:51 < dongs> lol @ battery piraacy 2016-03-12T19:02:19 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T19:07:33 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T19:09:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T19:14:22 < Tectu> bvernoux, how's that hydra thing? 2016-03-12T19:14:50 < bvernoux> Tectu, fine Balda have helped a lot by adding new features 2016-03-12T19:15:06 < Tectu> awesome! 2016-03-12T19:15:16 < bvernoux> Tectu, we are not far to totally replace a BusPirate with much more things 2016-03-12T19:15:34 < Tectu> sounds nice :) 2016-03-12T19:15:42 < bvernoux> main things missing was BBIO and now it exist thanks to Balda 2016-03-12T19:16:12 < bvernoux> with the power of STM32F4 there is lot of room to add tons of new mode/features ... 2016-03-12T19:16:13 < Tectu> glad to hear that your project is proceeding 2016-03-12T19:17:30 < bvernoux> main problem today is STm32F4 are too expensive 2016-03-12T19:17:59 < Tectu> err... did they become more expensive in the past two years? 2016-03-12T19:18:12 < Tectu> or are you just not having any other problems anymore? :P 2016-03-12T19:18:15 < bvernoux> in order to produce very cheap HW to have more people interested a bit like on RPI revolution 2016-03-12T19:18:24 < bvernoux> we are very far of that with STM32 embedded projects ... 2016-03-12T19:19:04 < Tectu> better slap bluetooth and a touchscreen on it. will sell itself. 2016-03-12T19:19:05 < bvernoux> Tectu, it is just crazy to ask 15USD for a poor STM32F405RGT 2016-03-12T19:19:13 < bvernoux> even today 2016-03-12T19:19:13 < Tectu> also engrave the word 'arduino' somewhere 2016-03-12T19:19:29 < bvernoux> yes it is the problem 2016-03-12T19:19:39 < bvernoux> today you shall write arduino or RPI to sell products ... 2016-03-12T19:20:08 < Tectu> µGFX become a lot more popular once it was able to run on arduino :P 2016-03-12T19:20:12 < jpa-> IIRC dongs sources stm32f4 under $10 :P 2016-03-12T19:20:25 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-12T19:20:30 < bvernoux> jpa-, by 500 or 1kunits or more ? 2016-03-12T19:20:51 < Tectu> jpa- genuine ones? 2016-03-12T19:21:02 < bvernoux> yes from official reseller ;) 2016-03-12T19:21:03 < bvernoux> ? 2016-03-12T19:21:15 < bvernoux> GD32 are very agressive 2016-03-12T19:21:21 < bvernoux> STM32F1 clone 2016-03-12T19:21:26 < bvernoux> and now STM32F2 clone 2016-03-12T19:21:40 < bvernoux> and soon STM32F4 ... I think 2016-03-12T19:21:45 < lorenzo> worth even thinking about using it? 2016-03-12T19:21:47 < jpa-> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/stmicroelectronics/STM32F411RET6/497-14909-ND/4935722 some of them are relatively cheap anyway 2016-03-12T19:21:59 < bvernoux> 411 suxx 2016-03-12T19:22:02 < bvernoux> I want 405 ;) 2016-03-12T19:22:20 < jpa-> what's special about 405? 2016-03-12T19:22:30 < bvernoux> 2 time faster more Flash more RAM ... 2016-03-12T19:23:00 < jpa-> though isn't STM32F405RGT just $10? 2016-03-12T19:23:23 < Tectu> 405 is a 407 w/o ethernet, right? 2016-03-12T19:23:27 < bvernoux> even 10USD is insane 2016-03-12T19:23:41 < jpa-> eh 2016-03-12T19:23:48 < bvernoux> compared to what there is on market with CorteA multi core 2016-03-12T19:23:59 < Tectu> there's not only a lot of development but also logistics and all other sorts of stuff behind making something like an STM32 microcontroller available to you, bvernoux 2016-03-12T19:24:14 < bvernoux> what we have on embedded side just an old CortexM4 or M7 ultra expensive 2016-03-12T19:24:31 < bvernoux> when on mobile/tablet they have 5 to 10USD chipset !! 2016-03-12T19:24:37 < bvernoux> with 4 x A53 2016-03-12T19:24:40 < jpa-> they have bigger volumes for mobile/tablet 2016-03-12T19:24:43 < Tectu> yep 2016-03-12T19:24:51 < jpa-> try to buy that chipset for $10 in your quantities 2016-03-12T19:25:06 < jpa-> you can get your STM32F405 much cheaper also once you get to >100k quantities 2016-03-12T19:25:07 < Tectu> most likely you won't even be able to purchase one - forget about the price 2016-03-12T19:25:15 < bvernoux> the problem is we are soo far behind with our MCU :( 2016-03-12T19:25:27 < Tectu> jpa-, do you have some real-world numbers for STM32 in >100k quantities? (just curious) 2016-03-12T19:25:29 < bvernoux> i want faster MCU with more features 2016-03-12T19:25:33 < jpa-> Tectu: nope 2016-03-12T19:26:07 < bvernoux> jpa-, 100kunits ;) 2016-03-12T19:26:19 < bvernoux> jsut fo fun check LPC4370 price 2016-03-12T19:26:22 < Tectu> bvernoux, you can't compare a microcontroller with a SoC used in tablets 2016-03-12T19:26:22 < bvernoux> vs STM32F4 2016-03-12T19:26:25 < jpa-> Tectu: but STM32F405RGT6 is just $7.50 at 1k, so probably drops even further 2016-03-12T19:26:31 < bvernoux> 4 times cheaper 10x better 2016-03-12T19:26:40 < bvernoux> except I prefer STM32 peripherals 2016-03-12T19:26:44 < Tectu> jpa-, yeah. I was just always wondering how low one can drop the price 2016-03-12T19:26:47 < jpa-> so not actually better :) 2016-03-12T19:26:55 < Tectu> bvernoux, you can't compare that. 2016-03-12T19:27:11 < jpa-> bvernoux: it seems to be the same price on digikey, where can you get it for $2.50? 2016-03-12T19:27:34 < bvernoux> Tectu, I cannot compare LPC4370 vs STM32F4 or even F7 ? 2016-03-12T19:28:12 < Tectu> bvernoux, ah sorry, I thought you were still comparing an STM32 with a tablet SoC 2016-03-12T19:28:14 < bvernoux> anyway LPC4370 have not changed since more than 3years !! 2016-03-12T19:28:29 < jpa-> bvernoux: where can you get LPC4370 for $2.50? 2016-03-12T19:28:36 < bvernoux> it is why I'm disappointed by embedded world which is slow ... 2016-03-12T19:28:51 < jpa-> why would a chip change after it is published? 2016-03-12T19:29:20 < Tectu> bvernoux, trust me, nobody is holding back there. It's not like ST could make a 10x faster and 4x cheaper STM32 and just don't because they don't feel like it. 2016-03-12T19:30:55 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokšt] 2016-03-12T19:31:44 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-12T19:35:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-12T19:35:40 < bvernoux> jpa-, I speak about new chip version multicore ;) 2016-03-12T19:35:51 < jpa-> ? 2016-03-12T19:35:54 < jpa-> show me a link 2016-03-12T19:35:57 < bvernoux> jpa-, I will be happy with dual core M7 @400MHz 28nm ;) 2016-03-12T19:36:26 < bvernoux> jpa-, LPC4370 is an example with 3 core even if it is a bit old and will need a refresh 2016-03-12T19:36:49 < bvernoux> anyway risc-v seems amazing for the future 2016-03-12T19:36:52 < jpa-> and costs as much as stm32f4 anyway, with worse adc etc. 2016-03-12T19:37:10 < bvernoux> jpa-, worse adc ? it has 80MHz 12bits ADC 2016-03-12T19:37:21 < bvernoux> it kill them all 2016-03-12T19:37:28 < bvernoux> and HS USB !! 2016-03-12T19:37:48 < jpa-> bvernoux: LPC4370? show me a link to 80MHz 12 bits ADC 2016-03-12T19:37:51 < bvernoux> 1 HS USB and another one HS with ULPI 2016-03-12T19:37:58 < jpa-> the datasheet says 10-bit 400kSps 2016-03-12T19:38:13 < bvernoux> pff 2016-03-12T19:38:21 < jpa-> ah there 2016-03-12T19:38:22 < bvernoux> check LPC4370 2016-03-12T19:38:23 < jpa-> interesting 2016-03-12T19:38:34 < jpa-> hadn't noticed that one before 2016-03-12T19:38:40 < bvernoux> One 6-channel, 12-bit high-speed ADC (ADCHS) with DMA support and a data 2016-03-12T19:38:40 < bvernoux> conversion rate of 80 MSamples/s 2016-03-12T19:38:44 < bvernoux> http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/LPC4370.pdf 2016-03-12T19:38:53 < bvernoux> I use it in airspy so I know it 2016-03-12T19:38:53 < lorenzo> oh I have a lpc4370 :D 2016-03-12T19:38:58 < lorenzo> never found a use for it 2016-03-12T19:39:13 < bvernoux> even if it runs at 20MHz because the problem is USB HS is too slow ;) 2016-03-12T19:39:18 < Tectu> I think I have an LPC4370 dev-board somewhere lying in a board 2016-03-12T19:39:20 < lorenzo> the development environment was horrendous back then 2016-03-12T19:39:29 < lorenzo> their lpcxpresso crap 2016-03-12T19:39:39 < lorenzo> with 32KB code limit, not sure if they pulled that or not 2016-03-12T19:39:39 < Tectu> oh, now I remember why I haven't used it ^ 2016-03-12T19:39:45 < bvernoux> yes lpcxpresso is crap it is why i use GCC ARM bare metal 2016-03-12T19:39:57 < lorenzo> the only LPC chip I still have in use is a LPC11U35 2016-03-12T19:39:59 < bvernoux> and lpcxpresso only to debug things with JTAG for special things 2016-03-12T19:40:02 < jpa-> why'd you use any vendor dev enveronment anyway? 2016-03-12T19:40:26 < lorenzo> jpa-: I like having some examples and a little bit of guidance when starting out with a new micro 2016-03-12T19:40:40 < lorenzo> 3-4 years ago the doc out there for LPC chips was terrible 2016-03-12T19:40:48 < lorenzo> maybe that changed, maybe not 2016-03-12T19:41:20 < bvernoux> anyway it is not for hobby project 2016-03-12T19:41:28 < bvernoux> with BGA FET100 or FET256 only 2016-03-12T19:41:37 < bvernoux> not for arduino guys ;) 2016-03-12T19:41:47 < Tectu> when I remember correctly you are an arduino guy. 2016-03-12T19:41:53 < lorenzo> don't be so elitist 2016-03-12T19:42:05 < bvernoux> arduino is very good to learn things 2016-03-12T19:42:05 < Tectu> elitist - new word to look up in the dictionary - brb 2016-03-12T19:42:19 < lorenzo> hobbyists help push down the prices a lot 2016-03-12T19:42:20 < bvernoux> then when you want to do serious things you shall move to something serious ... 2016-03-12T19:42:40 < bvernoux> excep if the needs are very limited ... like blinking led ... 2016-03-12T19:42:49 < englishman> then why is avr same price as f0, f1 etc 2016-03-12T19:42:54 < jpa-> hmm, 1mm bga; doesn't seem too bad 2016-03-12T19:42:55 < englishman> shouldnt it be 15c by now 2016-03-12T19:43:03 < jpa-> i might actually use that LPC4370 sometime 2016-03-12T19:43:17 < lorenzo> englishman: because atmel I guess 2016-03-12T19:43:17 < bvernoux> yes avr have crazy price for 8bits things with max 32MHz for 4KB SRAM ;) 2016-03-12T19:43:33 < lorenzo> AVR pricing is crazy, especially if you go into the larger parts (2560) 2016-03-12T19:43:44 < bvernoux> jpa-, problem is to find some stock somewhere and wait 16weeks lead time ;) 2016-03-12T19:43:45 < jpa-> soon they'll discontinue AVR and have just PIC 2016-03-12T19:44:02 < jpa-> bvernoux: ah, crap 2016-03-12T19:44:06 < jpa-> that kind of chip 2016-03-12T19:44:15 < lorenzo> the only thing I don't like about the hobbyist / maker community is how they throw useless things into useless things lol 2016-03-12T19:44:22 < bvernoux> jpa-, it is the main problem only low quantity during 3 years 2016-03-12T19:44:34 < lorenzo> like: need to blink a led? have a full featured SoC with tcp/ip and 802.11 and everything do the job 2016-03-12T19:44:56 < bvernoux> lorenzo, yes it is what I hate too 2016-03-12T19:45:12 < jpa-> lorenzo: why not? 2016-03-12T19:45:15 < englishman> esp8266 is a full featured soc now? 2016-03-12T19:45:28 < lorenzo> englishman: half featured? :p 2016-03-12T19:45:35 < bvernoux> lorenzo, even if I have lot of respect for projects like ChameleonMini which use this crappy 8bits AVR 2016-03-12T19:45:43 < jpa-> lorenzo: you use a supercomputer to talk shit on internet, while a serial terminal would work just as well 2016-03-12T19:45:52 < bvernoux> lorenzo, it will have been so great with an STM32 even a F411 ;) 2016-03-12T19:46:05 < bvernoux> but so limited with this AVR stuff 2016-03-12T19:46:07 < lorenzo> bvernoux: eh the opposite is quite interesting, people squeezing as much as thei can out of an AVR 2016-03-12T19:46:16 < lorenzo> such as VGA 2016-03-12T19:46:18 < jpa-> nah, that is useless 2016-03-12T19:46:26 < jpa-> interesting maybe, but useless 2016-03-12T19:46:29 < bvernoux> lorenzo, yes it is just crazy ;) a bit like old day on Amiga with Blitter ;) 2016-03-12T19:46:31 < lorenzo> useless, of course 2016-03-12T19:46:51 < lorenzo> jpa-: but it's the makers community. I don't think "useful" is the point. some people enjoy the process of .. making 2016-03-12T19:47:02 < bvernoux> lorenzo, but yes at end useless as you cannot upgrade anything because it is too limit everywhere ... 2016-03-12T19:47:46 < bvernoux> lorenzo, check risc-v project they have amazing MCU with multicore and power consumption is just amazing 2016-03-12T19:48:08 < bvernoux> lorenzo, it is open source ASIC ;) 2016-03-12T19:48:34 < bvernoux> lorenzo, fully synthesizable for FPGA for test or ASIC for final step ;) 2016-03-12T19:48:52 < lorenzo> bvernoux: wonder if it fits in my poor man's cyclone IV 2016-03-12T19:49:17 < bvernoux> lorenzo, I doubt but it shall work on Xilinx Zynq7020 like the one on Parallella ;) 2016-03-12T19:49:29 < bvernoux> I have a sleeping parallella it will be fun to test that 2016-03-12T19:49:48 < bvernoux> even if it is limited to something like 40 or 50MHz max 2016-03-12T19:51:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T19:52:39 < lorenzo> btw, not really stm32 related but who cares :D 2016-03-12T19:53:00 < englishman> b& 2016-03-12T19:53:02 < lorenzo> if you had to start a small production run (~20/30 units) of a single board computer, industrial grade 2016-03-12T19:53:12 < lorenzo> iMX233 or AT91? 2016-03-12T19:53:42 < lorenzo> needs to sample and scale ADC readings, talk tcp/ip, print stuff 2016-03-12T19:53:50 < lorenzo> as in, print on paper 2016-03-12T19:53:52 < bvernoux> lorenzo, iMX are better in all cases 2016-03-12T19:55:03 < lorenzo> why? 2016-03-12T19:55:39 < lorenzo> one thing I've noticed is that on at91 you're pretty much forced to a custom kernel with external modules, otherwise e.g. there's no built-in support for ADC 2016-03-12T19:56:50 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-172-37.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-12T19:56:50 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T19:57:38 < karlp> lorenzo: clifford got a cut down version of risc-V working on the lattice icestick, so yeah, I guess it would work on something like a cheap cyclone iv 2016-03-12T19:58:14 < bvernoux> the BOOM is amazing too 2016-03-12T19:58:16 < bvernoux> 2-wide BOOM with 16KiB L1 caches 1.2mm2 in TSMC 45nm. Can clock at 1.5GHz for two-wide. 2016-03-12T19:58:22 < bvernoux> DUal Core @ 1.5GHz ;) 2016-03-12T19:58:37 < bvernoux> with just 1.2mm2 !! 2016-03-12T19:58:53 < englishman> esp8266 2016-03-12T19:59:13 < bvernoux> and it was produced by ST ;) 2016-03-12T19:59:24 < bvernoux> so it is linked to STM32 in fact ;) 2016-03-12T19:59:27 < bvernoux> for future 2016-03-12T20:00:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.154] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:07:49 < FatalNIX> Okay. I think I know how to handle this. there's only one thing that I'm not quite sure about when it comes to input capture in my project so far; the clock rate of the device I am talking to is the same, but not in sync with the clock of the timer on my stm32. is there an easy way to handle this? The start of a signal is specified by the signal dropping low 2016-03-12T20:08:12 < FatalNIX> I was curious if there was a way to magically have it sync to that first falling edge 2016-03-12T20:11:24 < englishman> EXTI that starts a timer? 2016-03-12T20:11:50 < englishman> what are you even doing 2016-03-12T20:12:58 < englishman> receiving synchronous pwm? 2016-03-12T20:13:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T20:14:18 < FatalNIX> I'm reading an input signal, that consists of bits that last for 4 micro seconds, with a resolution of 1 microsecond, a 1 is 1 microsecond low, and a 0 is 3. That part is easy! at least from all my reading. The issue though... 2016-03-12T20:14:35 < FatalNIX> the issue is that the remote device has its own clock, so it's not aligned, or not in phase rather 2016-03-12T20:15:12 < FatalNIX> so I could supersample it at like, 250 nanosecond intervals.. but I still need to think of how to actually start the timer count at that first falling edge 2016-03-12T20:15:18 < FatalNIX> so that itl be aligned 2016-03-12T20:17:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-12T20:20:52 < jpa-> it will drift anyway 2016-03-12T20:21:02 < jpa-> if you supersample, why do you need it aligned? 2016-03-12T20:21:15 < jpa-> you could also consider using e.g. SPI that you clock from the external circuit 2016-03-12T20:22:13 < FatalNIX> this is a video game controller :P 2016-03-12T20:22:41 < englishman> doesnt input capture do exactly this, just set timer for resolution, and on rising edge you have teh pulse length in a register to read during interrupt 2016-03-12T20:22:47 < FatalNIX> jpa-: if I don't align it then my numbers on the timer counter registers will be not what I want them to be 2016-03-12T20:23:34 < FatalNIX> englishman: that is 2016-03-12T20:23:41 < FatalNIX> that is exactly how it works * 2016-03-12T20:24:14 < FatalNIX> but I'd like to start counting at the falling edge, and I didn't see anything in my book or in the ref that particularly mentioned that 2016-03-12T20:24:17 < FatalNIX> but maybe I am blind 2016-03-12T20:24:29 < jpa-> the count will always be aligned to the STM32 internal clock 2016-03-12T20:24:37 < jpa-> because there are no other clock edges that it could count on 2016-03-12T20:25:06 < FatalNIX> for all I know the signal could delay its transmission for several microseconds 2016-03-12T20:25:23 < FatalNIX> and I would think it'd be nice to just wait for that signal to go low to start the timer 2016-03-12T20:25:33 < englishman> you dont need to start the timer at falling edge, it can run all the time 2016-03-12T20:25:36 < jpa-> and if you supersample e.g. 4x, then just map anything less than 8 ticks to '1' and anything more to '0' bit 2016-03-12T20:25:45 < englishman> ^ that 2016-03-12T20:26:00 < englishman> if pulse < 4 bit = 0 else blah blah 2016-03-12T20:26:15 < FatalNIX> hmm 2016-03-12T20:27:11 < jpa-> but at microsecond times you'll probably want to use DMA to copy out the pulse lengths 2016-03-12T20:27:30 < englishman> looking at arduino dudes with n64 they do this in asm heh 2016-03-12T20:27:49 < FatalNIX> heh 2016-03-12T20:28:03 < FatalNIX> jpa-: yeah, I do intend to use DMA 2016-03-12T20:28:12 < FatalNIX> both ways actually 2016-03-12T20:28:28 < FatalNIX> so I can just have DMA read my times to send output as well 2016-03-12T20:28:28 < FatalNIX> :) 2016-03-12T20:28:40 < FatalNIX> which, there's only one thing you send to the controller but 2016-03-12T20:29:02 < englishman> dont you need to send rumblepak data 2016-03-12T20:29:26 < FatalNIX> I don't even know where my tremorpak is.. 2016-03-12T20:29:37 < FatalNIX> but yeah that's a good point. I don't -have- to 2016-03-12T20:29:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.23] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:29:47 < FatalNIX> 0x01 is the "give me button / joystick data" packet 2016-03-12T20:29:56 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:30:11 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-12T20:30:12 < FatalNIX> I should definately look into handling memory card and rumble 2016-03-12T20:30:50 < FatalNIX> the good thing is the the gamecube controller is exactly the same in many ways, so close that I could even use a button on my stm32 to switch between gc and n64 mode : 2016-03-12T20:30:53 < FatalNIX> P 2016-03-12T20:31:14 < FatalNIX> but this is an n64 only project atm 2016-03-12T20:32:23 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T20:34:08 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-12T20:37:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-12T20:38:10 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:39:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:42:21 < FatalNIX> jpa-: I kind of wonder sometimes why these controllers weren't syncronous. it would have made it easier for them to communicate 2016-03-12T20:44:01 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:44:12 < FatalNIX> async uses less power but 2016-03-12T20:44:26 < FatalNIX> or at least has the potential to 2016-03-12T20:46:34 < FatalNIX> I also found out why i can't set the MSI clock to higher frequencies (unrelated). when I set the MSIRGSEL bit in RCC_CR it causes an exception of sorts that triggers the NMI.. wat 2016-03-12T20:46:50 < jpa-> seems like you could also use the UART to receive the N64 controller protocol 2016-03-12T20:47:16 < jpa-> setting it to e.g. 4 Mbps clock rate 2016-03-12T20:47:30 < FatalNIX> I thought about doing that 2016-03-12T20:47:47 < FatalNIX> but the packet sizes are so huge.. 2016-03-12T20:47:59 < jpa-> so? 2016-03-12T20:48:19 < jpa-> takes less ram than doing it via timer capture 2016-03-12T20:48:21 < FatalNIX> at 4microseccond intervals it's basically 32N1, but I don't think the signals are the same as they typically are in TTL serial protocols 2016-03-12T20:48:58 < jpa-> nah, you'd set it fast enough so that each bit is one byte in uart, and the initial falling edge is always start of byte 2016-03-12T20:49:21 < FatalNIX> right 2016-03-12T20:50:15 < FatalNIX> i wonder what sort of baud rate that would give me.. 2016-03-12T20:50:57 < FatalNIX> I'm going to be using USART2 to send data to my laptop 2016-03-12T20:51:22 < FatalNIX> since I read over how to make the stm32 a USB peripheral and I have no idea how the heck that works XD 2016-03-12T20:51:36 < FatalNIX> the ref gets really in depth in the USB OTG chapter 2016-03-12T20:52:18 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T20:52:55 < FatalNIX> keep in mind I'm not using mbed or anything, I'm doing everything pretty much manually 2016-03-12T20:55:31 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-12T20:57:05 < FatalNIX> well wait a minute.. I might be fine with input capture sync if I just make it so that instead of watching for a falling edge i look for a rising edge. 2016-03-12T20:57:51 < FatalNIX> the start bit will always be a 0 anyways or whatever 2016-03-12T20:58:26 < FatalNIX> so I can completely ignore the startbit and all would be fine. 2016-03-12T21:00:01 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixcxavsugrkpwuvy] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T21:00:42 < qyx> 19:14 < FatalNIX> I'm reading an input signal, that consists of bits that last for 4 micro seconds, with a resolution of 1 microsecond, a 1 is 1 microsecond low, and a 0 is 3. That part is easy! at least from all my reading. The issue though... 2016-03-12T21:00:51 < qyx> thats the same as 1wire 2016-03-12T21:00:53 < qyx> kind of 2016-03-12T21:01:43 < FatalNIX> orly? 2016-03-12T21:01:55 < qyx> I would use the USART as jpa- said 2016-03-12T21:02:41 < FatalNIX> I'm not sure how well that would work out, especially since the packets you send are not as long as the ones you receive 2016-03-12T21:02:53 < qyx> doesn't really matter 2016-03-12T21:02:55 < FatalNIX> in terms of bits before stop bits, etc 2016-03-12T21:03:27 < qyx> if the bit is 4us wide, make the USART byte 4us wide 2016-03-12T21:03:32 < qyx> 2mbit/s would do 2016-03-12T21:03:47 < FatalNIX> I wouldn't want to supersample that? 2016-03-12T21:04:06 < jpa-> the STM32 UART already does 8x or 16x oversampling 2016-03-12T21:04:09 < qyx> you will receive eg. 10000000, 11000000, 11100000, that would be 1 2016-03-12T21:04:11 < FatalNIX> the bits coming back could be like 1/3 of a microsecond off of the clock of the stm32 2016-03-12T21:04:14 < FatalNIX> ok 2016-03-12T21:04:14 < qyx> and the rest could be 0 2016-03-12T21:04:58 < FatalNIX> so I would just have to disable start and stop bits 2016-03-12T21:05:05 < jpa-> with STM32 clock being at some 0.013 microseconds, it is not possible to be 0.3 microseconds away from it 2016-03-12T21:05:07 < FatalNIX> and send my own start and stop bits in the transmission 2016-03-12T21:05:08 < qyx> but meh, I am actually seeing that n64 for the first time 2016-03-12T21:05:44 < FatalNIX> the controller could be better, but I had one lying around and the connector makes it easy to jab wires into 2016-03-12T21:05:47 < FatalNIX> :D 2016-03-12T21:07:31 < FatalNIX> so let's see, 8 bits, no start bit, no stop bits, in four microseconds, that would be.. a 2 Mhz clock for the UART right? or am I doing that math wrong.. should i make it faster. 2016-03-12T21:07:45 < jpa-> not sure if you can disable start and stop bits 2016-03-12T21:08:00 < jpa-> not sure how well transmission would work with uart 2016-03-12T21:08:16 < FatalNIX> well let's see, the stop bit would be a high logic level, soo.. 2016-03-12T21:08:23 < FatalNIX> yeah the start bit could screw it up 2016-03-12T21:09:37 < FatalNIX> I could always try both methods XD 2016-03-12T21:10:43 < FatalNIX> but I think what I will do is us input capture right now at 250 nanosecond intervals or something and then just dump the results to a serial port to see what kind of data I got 2016-03-12T21:10:52 < FatalNIX> since I don't have an osciloscope 2016-03-12T21:14:58 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T21:29:08 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T21:29:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T21:35:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-12T21:57:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-12T21:58:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T22:00:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T22:08:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-12T22:09:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T22:13:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T22:25:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-12T22:35:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-12T22:38:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T22:50:30 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/YBgk4yo.webm 2016-03-12T23:01:14 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-224-241.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T23:03:52 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-140-80.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-12T23:21:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-12T23:31:48 < qyx> wtf, are they serious that protocol buffers compiler communicates with its plugins using protocol buffers? 2016-03-12T23:37:48 < Steffanx> They are serious. 2016-03-12T23:42:55 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-224-241.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-12T23:43:22 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-224-241.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T23:45:00 < jpa-> qyx: sure, it's actually pretty nice :) 2016-03-12T23:45:41 < jpa-> the C++ protobuf library also supports loading a protobuf-encoded description of your protobuf-encoding in runtime 2016-03-12T23:45:43 < karlp> FatalNIX: hey, you're problems with setting MSI range to 48Mhz... 2016-03-12T23:45:51 < karlp> you were properly enabling voltage range 1 first right? 2016-03-12T23:49:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T23:54:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-12T23:54:52 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-12T23:57:39 < FatalNIX> karlp, the ref didn't say anything about that.. 2016-03-12T23:57:45 < FatalNIX> that is a great point 2016-03-12T23:58:56 < FatalNIX> oh it does say it, it just doesn't say it in the section it is supposed to.. --- Day changed Sun Mar 13 2016 2016-03-13T00:01:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-13T00:02:43 < FatalNIX> karlp, that explains why an exception raises 2016-03-13T00:06:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T00:12:08 < karlp> however, it is set to range 1 by default :) 2016-03-13T00:12:21 < karlp> anyway, I'm doign this "right now" so I'll see if anything untoward ahppens for me. 2016-03-13T00:14:02 < Laurenceb_> lulwut http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35795128 2016-03-13T00:14:12 < Laurenceb_> so why does she have the video on her phone 2016-03-13T00:14:35 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-13T00:14:43 < FatalNIX> what do you have for a board karlp ? 2016-03-13T00:14:49 < FatalNIX> I have an L476VG 2016-03-13T00:14:56 < FatalNIX> disco 2016-03-13T00:15:36 < karlp> me too. 2016-03-13T00:16:08 < qyx> finally compiled the .proto file 2016-03-13T00:16:12 < FatalNIX> I also noticed that if I want to crank it up to 48 Mhz that I can't set the MSIRANGE in RCC_CR to B0 2016-03-13T00:16:14 < FatalNIX> B* 2016-03-13T00:16:22 < qyx> one whole hour 2016-03-13T00:16:23 < FatalNIX> I can change it to say 6 2016-03-13T00:16:27 < FatalNIX> or anything else 2016-03-13T00:18:51 < FatalNIX> karlp, I did configure the flash latency now t o no effect 2016-03-13T00:22:20 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T00:43:24 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T00:47:09 < karlp> FatalNIX: well, I get a lockup as well, which I wasn't expecting :) 2016-03-13T00:54:52 < karlp> nice, even managed to crash gdb stepping around it. 2016-03-13T00:56:20 < qyx> jpa-: mac_messages.proto:14:38: Option "(nanopb)" unknown. 2016-03-13T00:56:23 < qyx> wat 2016-03-13T00:56:59 < qyx> i copied it from your tutorial 2016-03-13T00:58:59 < lorenzo> is it normal for alibaba suppliers to completely stop answering if a deal doesn't convince them? 2016-03-13T00:59:25 < lorenzo> as in, most of the people I'm dealing with are like: you either accept their price at first time, or they won't even write back to you if you ask for a discount :/ 2016-03-13T00:59:32 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-13T01:01:34 < karlp> lorenzo: well, you're on an online shop that has prices set? 2016-03-13T01:01:45 < karlp> why waste time replying to people who saw the price but don't want to pay it? :) 2016-03-13T01:01:52 < FatalNIX> karlp, that sucks, I was hoping you wouldn't lol! 2016-03-13T01:02:07 * karlp too :) 2016-03-13T01:02:19 < karlp> yeah, 200kzh-> 8mhz work fine. 2016-03-13T01:03:01 < lorenzo> karlp: hm not necessairly, some have a price range according to how many units you buy 2016-03-13T01:03:15 < karlp> hrm 24mhz too 2016-03-13T01:03:29 < lorenzo> but apparently there's no margin for paying a bit less :D 2016-03-13T01:05:57 < karlp> FatalNIX: 32mhz works for me, 48 doesn't. 2016-03-13T01:06:14 < karlp> there's errata saying all sorts of things like, "option byte loading doesn't work if msi is > 8mhz" though :) 2016-03-13T01:06:16 < FatalNIX> I see, can you get 24? 2016-03-13T01:06:49 < karlp> If the MSI clock is stopped when it is running at high frequency (24 MHz or above), the 2016-03-13T01:06:52 < karlp> MSIRDY (MSI ready) flag can stay at value 1 instead of 0. 2016-03-13T01:06:56 < karlp> yeah, I can get 32Mhz and 24Mhz. 2016-03-13T01:07:01 < karlp> but 48 locks up 2016-03-13T01:07:01 < FatalNIX> huh 2016-03-13T01:07:06 < FatalNIX> Can I see your code? 2016-03-13T01:07:12 < FatalNIX> for the MSI setup 2016-03-13T01:07:35 < FatalNIX> my problem is that if I write a 1 to MSIRGSEL it just shuts it back off 2016-03-13T01:07:42 < Laurenceb_> http://img.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/popcorn-blank.gif 2016-03-13T01:07:43 < FatalNIX> preventing me from getting higher than like 8 Mhz 2016-03-13T01:07:51 < Laurenceb_> The Horizon programme will be transmitted in the UK at 20:00 on Wed 23 March. It is called Project Greenglow the search for gravity control. 2016-03-13T01:07:54 < karlp> yeah, also, you _must_ write the MSIRGSEL bit _after_ writing changes to the MSIRANGE 2016-03-13T01:07:56 < Laurenceb_> emdrive confirmed 2016-03-13T01:08:00 < karlp> you're only looking at RCC_CR right FatalNIX ? 2016-03-13T01:08:30 < karlp> https://www.zerobin.net/?dbc5d9b305f92508#6drKk7hI7zYZTmG8ju1wDPCtLt4wJUsX2GxQU7aavIM= 2016-03-13T01:08:44 < FatalNIX> yeah 2016-03-13T01:10:32 < karlp> I don't see anything in the errata or the ref man tha tsays why 48 locks up for me. 2016-03-13T01:10:38 < karlp> I always thought you were doing somethign wrong :) 2016-03-13T01:14:24 < karlp> still don't get trace output either. no idea what's going on there either. 2016-03-13T01:14:52 < FatalNIX> karlp, that is so weird.. 2016-03-13T01:14:58 < FatalNIX> it doesn't set the MSIRGSEL bit for me 2016-03-13T01:16:37 < karlp> "it" ? 2016-03-13T01:16:42 < karlp> that's a bit you set... 2016-03-13T01:16:48 < karlp> what's your code? 2016-03-13T01:22:27 < karlp> oh, you have falsh wait state set up too right? 2016-03-13T01:23:10 < FatalNIX> that that may be incorrect hold on 2016-03-13T01:23:16 < FatalNIX> I gotta fix that from 48 to 24 Mhz 2016-03-13T01:30:24 < FatalNIX> karlp, https://www.zerobin.net/?095fc22e595ec43d#q3uma2UVdZyK8JSGoM++C32nm+QzlzbsFbCM9FlhoL0= 2016-03-13T01:30:45 < FatalNIX> should work for 24 Mhz 2016-03-13T01:31:01 < FatalNIX> also comment for FLASH crap is wrong but 2016-03-13T01:31:07 < karlp> ok, 48 works for me after setting 2 waitestates 2016-03-13T01:31:15 < karlp> so yeah, you must have been doing somethign wrong :) 2016-03-13T01:31:20 < FatalNIX> it's still not working 2016-03-13T01:31:37 < FatalNIX> that is literally my main() 2016-03-13T01:31:41 < karlp> the manual says 2 ws for 48, why are you setting only 1? 2016-03-13T01:31:49 < FatalNIX> except I have a for(;;); underneath 2016-03-13T01:31:56 < FatalNIX> I'm doing 24 2016-03-13T01:31:59 < FatalNIX> the comment is wrong 2016-03-13T01:32:03 < FatalNIX> I'm setting 1 for 24 2016-03-13T01:32:21 < FatalNIX> MSIRANGE = 0x9 which is 24Mhz 2016-03-13T01:32:27 < FatalNIX> 48 is 0xB 2016-03-13T01:33:25 < FatalNIX> and in the debugger if I try to click MSIRGSEL option, it just removes the check a second later.. 2016-03-13T01:33:56 < karlp> what debugger are you clicking in? 2016-03-13T01:34:10 < FatalNIX> I'm using Keil on this machine right here 2016-03-13T01:34:18 < FatalNIX> I've got some other machines with gdb but they're off 2016-03-13T01:35:20 < FatalNIX> when I step through the box doesn't even ever check 2016-03-13T01:39:07 < FatalNIX> karlp, I wonder if my code runs fine on your board 2016-03-13T01:39:17 < FatalNIX> I've been having weird issue with mine for a while on different things 2016-03-13T01:39:21 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:802:fa01:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-13T01:45:35 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777237.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T01:45:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T01:45:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T01:45:52 < karlp> FatalNIX: send me an elf and I'll give it a go... 2016-03-13T01:46:00 < karlp> but you'd better describe what you want me to be looking at... 2016-03-13T01:46:27 < FatalNIX> lol! 2016-03-13T01:46:38 < FatalNIX> well the code doesn't do anything yet.. 2016-03-13T01:47:26 < karlp> so, blink leds or something 2016-03-13T01:48:30 < FatalNIX> that doesn't help me figure out why msirgsel won't get set 2016-03-13T01:48:31 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-13T01:48:57 < karlp> make sure voltage range is set, make sure flash wait states are set, set msi range.... profit.. 2016-03-13T01:49:14 < karlp> once I followed those steps from the ref man, it works for all ranges as described. 2016-03-13T01:49:28 < FatalNIX> where do you set the voltage range? I couldn't find it anywhere in the reference manual 2016-03-13T01:49:34 < karlp> PWR. 2016-03-13T01:49:42 < karlp> but it defaults to range 1 anyway, so you _should_ be ok. 2016-03-13T01:50:13 < FatalNIX> hmm 2016-03-13T01:51:36 < FatalNIX> yeah VOS is 01 2016-03-13T01:52:18 < FatalNIX> in the debugger it shows 2016-03-13T01:53:14 < FatalNIX> I copied and modified your code just to make sure I wasn't doing something stupid, and so this is literally my entire file: https://www.zerobin.net/?fde31486f571e648#smbn4E1Bva9sPqvAIbX1VNjKO5gChe+pW9U+it8wqog= 2016-03-13T01:53:23 < FatalNIX> doesn't seem to work 2016-03-13T01:53:44 < FatalNIX> as I step through, the MSIRANGE does change and everything.. 2016-03-13T01:53:53 < FatalNIX> but alas MSIRGSEL remains disabled 2016-03-13T01:54:51 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-13T01:55:08 < karlp> also, you can merge them when you have the wait state ssetup properly :) 2016-03-13T01:55:41 < FatalNIX> that is what I was originally doing 2016-03-13T01:58:31 < karlp> well, 24 and 32mhz had worked for me when I wrote it separately, but still with flash wait states at 0, which was wrong. 2016-03-13T01:58:36 < karlp> do you want my elf? 2016-03-13T01:58:50 < karlp> I'm working on other things, so you can't have the source easily right now, 2016-03-13T01:58:57 < karlp> in an hour or so it will be ready though. 2016-03-13T02:00:53 < FatalNIX> karlp, apparently I'm an ass 2016-03-13T02:01:14 < FatalNIX> it looks like a 0 but I glued my eyes to the screen 2016-03-13T02:01:19 < FatalNIX> and the CR shows as 0x9B 2016-03-13T02:01:27 < FatalNIX> but MSIRGSEL is blank in the debugger gui 2016-03-13T02:01:34 < FatalNIX> so yes, MSIRGSEL is enabled. WTF. 2016-03-13T02:01:38 < FatalNIX> debugger bugs. 2016-03-13T02:04:14 < karlp> shoulda used gdb 2016-03-13T02:05:00 < karlp> still don't know why my trace output doesn't work though :| 2016-03-13T02:11:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T02:11:33 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T02:11:40 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T02:13:32 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T02:14:12 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T02:20:58 < Laurenceb_> c n00b question, uint8_t Get_From_Buffer(void * data, buff_type* buffer) 2016-03-13T02:21:03 < Laurenceb_> why does this fail? 2016-03-13T02:21:22 < Laurenceb_> error: invalid use of void expression 2016-03-13T02:21:40 < yan> Laurenceb_: what's 'buff_type'? 2016-03-13T02:22:13 < Laurenceb_> a structure 2016-03-13T02:22:26 < Laurenceb_> I think the error is with the first argument 2016-03-13T02:22:49 < yan> paste the code somewhere? void* is okay in param list 2016-03-13T02:25:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-13T02:27:36 < Laurenceb_> ah fixed it nvm 2016-03-13T02:27:41 < Laurenceb_> error on another line lol 2016-03-13T02:31:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-153-83.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T02:39:33 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-13T02:47:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T02:53:59 < Laurenceb_> I'm confused by this now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable-length_array 2016-03-13T02:54:17 < Laurenceb_> I'm using -std=gnu99, but getting an error 2016-03-13T02:54:32 < Laurenceb_> error: variable-sized object may not be initialized 2016-03-13T02:57:33 < fenugrec> paste 2016-03-13T03:00:48 < Laurenceb_> oh solved it, C99 doesnt allow initialisation 2016-03-13T03:00:53 < Laurenceb_> you have to use memset 2016-03-13T03:04:29 < lorenzo> I just = {0}; 2016-03-13T03:04:30 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T03:05:12 < lorenzo> ah, variable length, nvm 2016-03-13T03:05:44 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T03:06:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@84.217.184.185] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-13T03:17:51 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-13T03:24:21 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T03:40:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-13T03:57:52 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-13T03:59:21 -!- TheSeven 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2016-03-13T09:52:47 < dongs> cute 2016-03-13T09:52:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T09:53:31 < PeterM> i think i linked about a month ago 256gb micro sd card for like $80 or something 2016-03-13T09:53:46 < ReadError> altho 2016-03-13T09:53:47 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-128GB-Flash-MUF-128CB-AM/dp/B017DH3NXI/ 2016-03-13T09:53:51 < ReadError> this is an excellent idea 2016-03-13T09:53:55 < ReadError> I can dig it 2016-03-13T09:54:09 < dongs> crt: cortex-m if thats what you want. 2016-03-13T09:54:21 < dongs> or just use F0 version 2016-03-13T09:54:25 < dongs> for free. 2016-03-13T09:54:26 < PeterM> ReadError, i wonder if it supprots USB OTG 2016-03-13T09:54:32 < dongs> c-m is around 3k 2016-03-13T09:54:34 < ReadError> ya it does PeterM 2016-03-13T09:54:38 < ReadError> thats what its made for 2016-03-13T09:54:44 < ReadError> not the OTG plug though 2016-03-13T09:54:45 < dongs> you dont need pro 2016-03-13T09:54:50 < dongs> pro is only need if you want to use thier middlware 2016-03-13T09:54:52 < PeterM> oh, i thoguht it was just for plugging into computers that aren't ancient 2016-03-13T09:54:52 < dongs> usb/filesystem etc 2016-03-13T09:55:15 < ReadError> PeterM does both 2016-03-13T09:55:24 < dongs> http://www.newark.com/keil/mdk-arm-cm/mdk-arm-cortex-m-node-locked/dp/46W2361 2016-03-13T09:55:27 < dongs> jsut use lwip 2016-03-13T09:55:29 < dongs> like all newbs 2016-03-13T09:55:31 < dongs> at least you'll get uspport 2016-03-13T09:55:40 < dongs> i only used keil usb stack and because iw as too lazy to use ST's 2016-03-13T09:56:00 < dongs> and this was back on keil4 because in v5 the new middleware/packs shit is such aids, i would never use it 2016-03-13T09:56:33 < dongs> i dont even know if you can use v5 usb stack without pulling in a bunch of thier middleware shit 2016-03-13T09:56:40 < dongs> rtos, hal, wahtever 2016-03-13T09:58:36 < dongs> im pretty sure youre pumping, so I probably wasted my time anyway 2016-03-13T10:00:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-13T10:04:08 < dongs> you dont need to trial it. i just told you the only thing it adds is middleware. which is aids. 2016-03-13T10:08:08 < dongs> no, there's mdk hal too 2016-03-13T10:08:25 < dongs> http://www.keil.com/rl-arm/rl_benefits.asp 2016-03-13T10:09:04 < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/mdk5/middleware/ thee's a shitty fucking video 2016-03-13T10:09:07 < dongs> instead of a pic 2016-03-13T10:09:09 < dongs> that i can link 2016-03-13T10:09:23 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUKP9ZazgGY 2016-03-13T10:09:36 < dongs> 'software packs' 2016-03-13T10:09:40 < dongs> with drivers = hal 2016-03-13T10:11:39 < dongs> i ahvent looked wat 'software packs' are using as its base 2016-03-13T10:13:38 < dongs> hopefully just cmsis+registers 2016-03-13T10:13:45 < dongs> and abstracted into wahtever keil hal 2016-03-13T10:13:56 < dongs> instead of cmsis -> stdperuiph/hal -> keil hal -> lol 2016-03-13T10:16:22 < dongs> yep..... 2016-03-13T10:16:27 < dongs> it just wraps stdperiphlib.. 2016-03-13T10:16:33 < dongs> at least on F1 2016-03-13T10:16:41 < dongs> ah, wait no 2016-03-13T10:16:45 < dongs> the RTE stuff is its own 2016-03-13T10:17:00 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/Hi4nXL24.html 2016-03-13T10:17:39 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/ZKMpGg41.html i2Cc 2016-03-13T10:19:09 < dongs> pretty basic stuff on keil original hal 2016-03-13T10:19:11 < dongs> not even EXTI etc. 2016-03-13T10:19:23 < dongs> basically just enough to support their shit 2016-03-13T10:19:30 < dongs> filesystem/tcpip/usbfs 2016-03-13T10:20:08 < dongs> i wouldnt use it. 2016-03-13T10:21:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T10:23:22 < dongs> it is 2016-03-13T10:23:25 < dongs> i just told you its in F1 pack 2016-03-13T10:23:32 < dongs> im downloading F4 to see but i think its there too. 2016-03-13T10:23:37 < dongs> it just uses wahtever st provdies 2016-03-13T10:23:49 < dongs> and has their own shit on top thats just enough to support RTE/middleware 2016-03-13T10:24:19 < dongs> 80% on F4 pack, will know soon 2016-03-13T10:26:50 < dongs> STM32F4xx_HAL_Driver 2016-03-13T10:26:53 < dongs> its there. 2016-03-13T10:26:58 < dongs> F4 pack uses st hal 2016-03-13T10:28:15 < dongs> wat the fuck 2016-03-13T10:28:22 < dongs> F4 pack doenstr enve HAVE keil drivers 2016-03-13T10:28:27 < dongs> its just hal 2016-03-13T10:28:35 < dongs> oh never mind 2016-03-13T10:28:37 < dongs> CMSIS\Driver 2016-03-13T10:28:45 < dongs> same thing 2016-03-13T10:28:50 < dongs> i2c/spi/usart/gpio 2016-03-13T10:28:56 < dongs> not even gpio. 2016-03-13T10:33:28 < dongs> dont you mean another blunt you fufkcing stoner 2016-03-13T10:33:57 < dongs> coffee isnt? 2016-03-13T10:37:22 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-13T10:37:28 -!- bradfirj_ [~bradfirj@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::c9:c001] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T10:38:54 -!- bradfirj 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-!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T13:52:36 < kakimir> Steffanx: no but it's a lot faster 2016-03-13T13:54:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T13:56:04 < kakimir> it's my drug 2016-03-13T13:56:20 < kakimir> after 4days I go in a bad condition 2016-03-13T13:57:25 < kakimir> can't stand mania for that long 2016-03-13T13:58:22 < Steffanx> pebkac. 2016-03-13T14:01:33 < Steffanx> must or die? 2016-03-13T14:03:29 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T14:03:50 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-13T14:03:51 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-03-13T14:04:02 < dongs> this rework im doing right now makes me want to grab the iron like those 123rf model 2016-03-13T14:04:18 < kakimir> you can be without buying almost all of the things you buy 2016-03-13T14:04:27 < kakimir> but computer monitor is not one of them 2016-03-13T14:09:30 < dongs> if youre some autistic lunix shithead oyu only need a 80x25 vt100 terminal 2016-03-13T14:12:13 < kakimir> hmm rc plane weather 2016-03-13T14:12:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-13T14:12:39 < kakimir> too late it's only 2hours of light left 2016-03-13T14:12:48 < dongs> time to get stoned 2016-03-13T14:23:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.255] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T14:26:04 < Steffanx> you should move.. 2 hours of light left ?! 2016-03-13T14:26:42 < kakimir> in ethernets do I have to touch those excess pairs really? 2016-03-13T14:26:55 < kakimir> if I want 4pin connector not 6pin 2016-03-13T14:27:33 < dongs> i have 10/100 board with pin1/2/3/6? or wahtever on 4 pin header. 2016-03-13T14:27:47 < Steffanx> why on earth you want to do ethernet on something non-standard? 2016-03-13T14:27:49 < Steffanx> dont do that please. 2016-03-13T14:28:35 < dongs> Steffanx: if the jack is somewehre else on enclsoure, or if you're doing PoE and have a module for that or smth 2016-03-13T14:28:46 < kakimir> dongs: you have excess pairs shorted and connected to shared ground bypass capacitor via 75ohm resistors? 2016-03-13T14:29:12 < dongs> i mean, autismir probably doenst have a legit reason 2016-03-13T14:29:15 < dongs> but there's lots of htem 2016-03-13T14:29:22 < dongs> kakimir: i hope y ou buy an expensive poe switch and burn it with that setup 2016-03-13T14:29:48 < kakimir> it would be shitty switch 2016-03-13T14:30:20 < dongs> ok then I hope you just die 2016-03-13T14:31:48 < kakimir> sorry dong uncle 2016-03-13T14:32:43 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKeTVfRE14MnRPMmc/view?usp=sharing 2016-03-13T14:32:55 < kakimir> this ruins my 4wire connector plan 2016-03-13T14:33:55 < Steffanx> but why you want this kakimir? 2016-03-13T14:34:05 < Steffanx> dont want a nice rj45 connector on your pcb? 2016-03-13T14:34:07 < Steffanx> sma? 2016-03-13T14:34:16 < kakimir> no way there is rj45 on board 2016-03-13T14:34:33 < kakimir> it would be like 15% of the board area 2016-03-13T14:34:57 < kakimir> just for 15cm cable to case side connector 2016-03-13T14:35:21 < Sync_> just put an rj45 on there. 2016-03-13T14:35:33 < Sync_> use a magjack and you save the magnetic space 2016-03-13T14:36:20 < kakimir> the case has like... 4cm of space 2016-03-13T14:36:31 < kakimir> in height 2016-03-13T14:36:40 < kakimir> bend that shiet there 2016-03-13T14:42:48 < kakimir> not going to happen 2016-03-13T14:43:03 < kakimir> but jst-ph 4 or 6 2016-03-13T14:43:21 < kakimir> with loose twisted pairs out of it 2016-03-13T14:43:25 < kakimir> no probs 2016-03-13T14:45:15 < dongs> autismir 2016-03-13T14:45:36 < dongs> or beakymir i duno 2016-03-13T14:45:37 < dongs> cant decide 2016-03-13T14:49:38 < kakimir> I need small magnetics dongs but inexpensive 2016-03-13T14:50:47 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/HALO-Electronics/TG110-E055N5LF/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv0IfuNuy2LUfZdSvNuW2Vy8gJtcPGFdGQ%3d is this ok price? 2016-03-13T14:51:05 < dongs> lol. 2016-03-13T14:51:10 < dongs> this is neither small nor inexpensive 2016-03-13T14:51:16 < dongs> that looks like standard magnetics footprint 2016-03-13T14:51:38 < kakimir> it's like so16 or so 2016-03-13T14:51:46 < kakimir> or soic16 2016-03-13T14:52:52 < kakimir> or just close to those sizes 2016-03-13T14:53:56 < Sync_> that's like not even cheap at all 2016-03-13T14:53:59 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHDg_K-3gas 2016-03-13T14:54:09 < dongs> someoen needs to sneak some tarantulas into her room 2016-03-13T14:55:01 < kakimir> Sync_: it isn't 2016-03-13T14:56:00 < dongs> +1'd the top comment Girl, if she became president he would nuke your country again. 2016-03-13T14:59:07 < kakimir> yes the package is size of soic16.. you say there is really smaller ones? 2016-03-13T14:59:24 < dongs> yes, the ones inside the fucking magjackl 2016-03-13T15:00:32 < zyp> for 10/100 without poe, just use that hanrun shit 2016-03-13T15:03:33 < kakimir> there is just that excess connector around it dongs 2016-03-13T15:03:49 < kakimir> that is totally without purpose inside that case 2016-03-13T15:05:29 -!- taruti [taruti@ultra.violetti.org] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-13T15:05:31 < kakimir> I wonder what these different pinout schemes are for in transformers 2016-03-13T15:05:40 < kakimir> looks like those are just mirrors of each other 2016-03-13T15:06:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-13T15:06:28 < kakimir> why not just rotate the chip... 180degrees? 2016-03-13T15:06:43 < kakimir> "chip" 2016-03-13T15:06:49 < kakimir> package* 2016-03-13T15:08:07 < kakimir> that would be a little dirty? 2016-03-13T15:10:22 < kakimir> maybe dickplacing chip with 180degree rotation to layout would be awkward 2016-03-13T15:12:38 < kakimir> zyp: HR601680? looks suitable. Thanks! 2016-03-13T15:13:11 < dongs> HR601680 2016-03-13T15:15:47 < kakimir> seems to be the soic16 format 2016-03-13T15:16:14 < zyp> uh, no 2016-03-13T15:16:28 < zyp> I was talking about the hanrun magjack 2016-03-13T15:16:50 < dongs> he wants to assburger 2016-03-13T15:16:59 < zyp> hr91105a I guess 2016-03-13T15:18:01 < kakimir> do you have magjacks inside cases just to have rj45 wall mounted into case? 2016-03-13T15:18:13 < kakimir> of course if you have to route it longer distances out 2016-03-13T15:18:27 < kakimir> would be cool 2016-03-13T15:19:01 < zyp> huh? 2016-03-13T15:19:07 < zyp> wtf are you asking? 2016-03-13T15:19:24 < kakimir> it's merely a question 2016-03-13T15:19:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T15:19:44 < zyp> but what is the question? 2016-03-13T15:20:03 < kakimir> *barelly 2016-03-13T15:20:57 < zyp> are you not going to use a pcb-mount rj45-jack? 2016-03-13T15:21:26 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-13T15:21:26 < kakimir> true 2016-03-13T15:23:05 < zyp> uh, then what are you going to use? 2016-03-13T15:23:51 < dongs> he wants a "4 pin JST-SH" to the RJ45 somewehre else 2016-03-13T15:24:40 < dongs> I did this in a design but thats because customer was providing a PoE module and the RJ45 was actually a captive connector that plugged the device in 2016-03-13T15:24:56 < dongs> so my shit was just connecting ethernet pairs to poe shit. 2016-03-13T15:25:10 < zyp> if I had to mount the connector in a weird way, I would probably put it on a sub-pcb somewhere, and then you could still use whatever magjack 2016-03-13T15:25:19 < dongs> ^ that 2016-03-13T15:26:32 < dongs> and run FPC cable or some wire loom shit 2016-03-13T15:28:33 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T15:28:53 < ReadError> if you need 4 pins 2016-03-13T15:28:57 < ReadError> use a fuckin RJ11 2016-03-13T15:30:24 < zyp> haha, wat 2016-03-13T15:30:54 < zyp> that sounds dumb in all ways I can imagine you meant it 2016-03-13T15:32:49 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T15:34:28 < kakimir> the original question was if https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKeTVfRE14MnRPMmc/view?usp=sharing this was okay and if it would matter to leave those 2 pairs out 2016-03-13T15:34:57 < kakimir> answer: just use magjack mr. autism 2016-03-13T15:35:05 < kakimir> :] 2016-03-13T15:35:50 < ReadError> zyp whys that 2016-03-13T15:35:59 < kakimir> but I do it like it says in this sheet 2016-03-13T15:36:03 < FatalNIX> OH NO! 2016-03-13T15:36:08 < FatalNIX> I have a socket ReadError 2016-03-13T15:37:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-13T15:39:19 < kakimir> hmm.. have cut under mcu and place bypasses in the cuts 2016-03-13T15:39:56 < kakimir> makes no sense.. bypasses are not that high I should do that 2016-03-13T15:40:17 < dongs> ... 2016-03-13T15:41:48 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/cadyYGX.jpg 2016-03-13T15:48:30 < kakimir> :] I try not to crack for that pic 2016-03-13T15:53:29 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T15:55:03 < Laurenceb_> typical /pol/ gathering http://8ch.net/pol/src/1457738728527.webm 2016-03-13T15:57:19 < Sync_> the fuck is habbening there 2016-03-13T15:58:32 < dongs> Sync_: kakimir thinking of cutting slots in PCB to put bypass capacitors in them under the TQFP 2016-03-13T15:58:43 < Sync_> noice 2016-03-13T15:59:01 < Sync_> obv pro 2016-03-13T15:59:01 < Laurenceb_> lulwhy 2016-03-13T15:59:10 < dongs> to save space obicvosuly 2016-03-13T15:59:24 < kakimir> pcb house wont agree with my plan 2016-03-13T16:01:33 < BrainDamage> maybe one day you'll be recognized as visionary 2016-03-13T16:02:04 < BrainDamage> or more realistically, you could realize planar design exists for a reason 2016-03-13T16:03:18 < kakimir> it's not my idea to embed components 2016-03-13T16:03:28 < kakimir> they actually do that 2016-03-13T16:06:10 < dongs> lol astonerberg is working for ioactive now 2016-03-13T16:06:22 < dongs> the same place that hired that scammer chris 2016-03-13T16:07:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T16:10:17 < Laurenceb_> chris chan? 2016-03-13T16:10:50 < dongs> yes you STUPID FUCKING KIKE 2016-03-13T16:11:30 < Laurenceb_> http://www.reaxxion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/OnNb4n81.jpg 2016-03-13T16:14:17 < Tectu> who's chris chan? 2016-03-13T16:15:41 < artag> bloke who does kung fu movies ? 2016-03-13T16:16:26 < Laurenceb_> thats chris chan 2016-03-13T16:16:47 < Laurenceb_> sonichu.com/ <- chris chan wiki 2016-03-13T16:17:51 < dongs> With the help of Andrew Zonenberg, a researcher with security firm IOActive, here's how ABC News described the process: 2016-03-13T16:17:54 < dongs> haha 2016-03-13T16:17:57 < dongs> researcher 2016-03-13T16:17:59 < dongs> more like fucking irc poser 2016-03-13T16:18:09 < dongs> i wonder how much cock did he suck to get that "job" 2016-03-13T16:18:14 < Laurenceb_> lol @ 26 February 2016-03-13T16:18:40 < FatalNIX> getting a job in research is pretty simple and easy 2016-03-13T16:18:50 < zyp> ReadError, because I can't see any way to justify using rj11 with a nonstandard pinout 2016-03-13T16:19:12 < ReadError> hows that any different than using a rj45? 2016-03-13T16:19:21 < ReadError> besides less pins 2016-03-13T16:19:46 < FatalNIX> RJ11?! how many possible configurations could you have?! lol 2016-03-13T16:20:03 < FatalNIX> I'm sure there's a standard for every pssible configuration of an rj11 2016-03-13T16:20:08 < FatalNIX> thought possible 2016-03-13T16:20:58 < FatalNIX> RJ11 is kind of dump though 2016-03-13T16:21:16 < zyp> ReadError, ethernet have a standardized pinout for rj45 2016-03-13T16:21:25 < zyp> that's the difference 2016-03-13T16:21:32 < FatalNIX> the only thing I see RJ11 used for these days is HAM radio head detatchments 2016-03-13T16:21:34 < ReadError> zyp hes not using that though 2016-03-13T16:21:40 < ReadError> he needs a 4 wire connector 2016-03-13T16:22:00 < FatalNIX> rj45 has TONS of standard pinouts 2016-03-13T16:22:01 < BrainDamage> here rj11 is used for pots phone links 2016-03-13T16:22:03 < FatalNIX> for different purposes 2016-03-13T16:22:15 < zyp> ReadError, exactly, so why use that kind of connector at all? 2016-03-13T16:22:19 < FatalNIX> ethernet is only one of them :0 2016-03-13T16:22:29 < ReadError> idk 2016-03-13T16:22:56 < FatalNIX> what you need is a centronics connector 2016-03-13T16:22:57 < FatalNIX> :) 2016-03-13T16:23:24 < FatalNIX> https://www.c2g.com/uk/static/content/images/resources/connector-guides/450/060_36pin_centronics_m_iso.jpg 2016-03-13T16:24:52 < FatalNIX> but no RJ11 has been used for a lot of non standard things 2016-03-13T16:25:27 < FatalNIX> besides the fact that rj11 is a poor choice for something reasonably sturdy, they are not too bad 2016-03-13T16:25:43 < lorenzo> anyone with a baidu account? need to get a file :/ 2016-03-13T16:25:50 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T16:26:08 < qyx> isn't RJ11/12/45/etc actually the wiring standard? 2016-03-13T16:26:12 < qyx> and not the connector itself? 2016-03-13T16:26:38 < lorenzo> I think CATx is the wiring standard 2016-03-13T16:26:41 < lorenzo> tia/eia something 2016-03-13T16:26:49 < FatalNIX> well RJ stands for registered jack iirc 2016-03-13T16:26:54 < FatalNIX> so maybe 2016-03-13T16:27:03 < FatalNIX> but I just call it the rj11 connector lol 2016-03-13T16:27:46 < FatalNIX> YEP! 2016-03-13T16:28:05 < FatalNIX> it's actually called a 6P4C connector 2016-03-13T16:28:46 < FatalNIX> 6 something 4 conductor I'm assuming.. 2016-03-13T16:28:58 < qyx> 6 positions, 4 conductors 2016-03-13T16:28:58 < lorenzo> poles? 2016-03-13T16:29:00 < lorenzo> ah 2016-03-13T16:29:20 < FatalNIX> maybe 2016-03-13T16:30:18 < FatalNIX> huh 2016-03-13T16:30:38 < FatalNIX> cat5 ethernet uses an 8P8C 2016-03-13T16:31:22 < FatalNIX> and to classify them with an actual connector type you can suffix "modular connector", which apparently comes from old novel netware setups or some shit 2016-03-13T16:34:38 < FatalNIX> interesting. Cat7 (STP) is GG45, wherever the hell that name came from 2016-03-13T16:41:11 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T16:42:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-198.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T16:43:54 < FatalNIX> yeah 2016-03-13T16:44:07 < FatalNIX> just an odd name 2016-03-13T17:01:49 < lorenzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytS2HtUiER0 2016-03-13T17:05:54 -!- theAdib [~theadib@dslb-084-059-006-050.084.059.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T17:08:25 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixcxavsugrkpwuvy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-13T17:10:03 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T17:10:14 < qyx> when doing embedded stuff, are you using some kind of "list library"? 2016-03-13T17:10:38 < qyx> something that allows static preallocation of a maximum number of items in a list 2016-03-13T17:10:57 < qyx> and then somehow enables you to search and retrieve items 2016-03-13T17:11:16 < dongs> qyx, i generally steal list stuff from glib1.x 2016-03-13T17:11:23 < dongs> they have nice and simple single/double/etc linked lists 2016-03-13T17:11:29 < dongs> and you can write your own allocators (or use preallocated) 2016-03-13T17:13:38 < dongs> BREAKING: For no apparent reason, at least 10 gunmen, armed with machine guns, open fire at a beach resort near a hotel in the coastal city Grand-Bassam of Ivory Coast; multiple deaths, described as 'executions', have been reported 2016-03-13T17:13:42 < dongs> whats ivory coast? niggers? 2016-03-13T17:14:11 < dongs> there's your reason 2016-03-13T17:17:49 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T17:19:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T17:20:52 < qyx> I havw found this http://sglib.sourceforge.net/ 2016-03-13T17:21:13 < dongs> hah no 2016-03-13T17:21:16 < dongs> too many caps 2016-03-13T17:21:19 < dongs> sounds like its #defines 2016-03-13T17:21:20 < dongs> fuck that 2016-03-13T17:21:37 < dongs> First, Sglib is using particular naming conventions. All variables defined inside macros begins and ends with _ (underscore). As it is unusual to use such names in normal code this reduces the risk of conflicts 2016-03-13T17:21:41 < dongs> oh god 2016-03-13T17:21:44 < dongs> fuck no 2016-03-13T17:21:46 < dongs> dont want undebuggable multi-line macro trash 2016-03-13T17:22:42 < dongs> haha 2016-03-13T17:22:44 < dongs> link goes to freshmeat 2016-03-13T17:22:49 < dongs> which is now freecode hwich is now dead 2016-03-13T17:26:45 < qyx> wat, marian vittek, bratislava 2016-03-13T17:26:48 < qyx> whos that 2016-03-13T17:26:49 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T17:27:02 < qyx> https://github.com/stefanct/sglib/blob/master/sglib.h 2016-03-13T17:27:29 < lorenzo> if (comparator(((a)[_m_]), ((a)[_l_])) < 0) _m_ = _l_;\ 2016-03-13T17:27:31 < lorenzo> why 2016-03-13T17:27:54 < lorenzo> all macro 2016-03-13T17:28:06 < dongs> haha, no, just fucking no. 2016-03-13T17:29:10 < qyx> Another Useless Architecture (AUA) is a RISC microprocessor architecture 2016-03-13T17:29:11 < qyx> lol 2016-03-13T17:32:10 < Laurenceb_> http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3316/3273/original.jpg?w=800&h 2016-03-13T17:32:39 < dongs> lol'd 2016-03-13T17:35:06 < qyx> what the hell seriously, 50 line macros 2016-03-13T17:52:26 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T17:53:20 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T17:55:46 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T18:07:54 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T18:09:07 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-13T18:11:00 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-13T18:13:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T18:30:15 < Steffanx> Information on GargantuaSauce (account GargantuaSauce); Last seen : Jan 14 22:45:50 2016 (8w 2d 17h ago) 2016-03-13T18:30:19 < Steffanx> WHAT DID YOU do TO HIM? 2016-03-13T18:30:43 < Steffanx> I miss my daily dose of uncommon english words. 2016-03-13T18:36:37 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-13T18:36:49 < Laurenceb_> some people from my school are in Syria 2016-03-13T18:36:56 < Laurenceb_> hopefully they get blown up 2016-03-13T18:41:38 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T18:44:13 < englishman> i think thé bridge to PEI blew up severing the food supply coming from the mainland 2016-03-13T18:54:55 < Getty> I must say, i am a bit surprised to see epson on the glasses market http://www.amazon.de/Epson-intelligente-Multimedia-Brille-Polysilizium-TFT-Aktivmatrix-LCD-Display/dp/B00LWWTSSU/ref=sr_1_15 ;) 2016-03-13T18:56:15 < dongs> epson did some 3d glasses ages ago 2016-03-13T18:56:21 < dongs> before anyone even was doing it 2016-03-13T18:56:23 < artag> why? they've always been big in LCDs. Or was that seiko-epson ? 2016-03-13T18:57:10 < Sync_> well they are a .jp megacorp 2016-03-13T18:57:14 < Sync_> so they do everything™ 2016-03-13T18:57:17 < Sync_> by design 2016-03-13T18:58:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-13T19:05:52 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-13T19:07:19 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T19:14:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-13T19:20:22 -!- piezo [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T19:20:22 -!- piezoid is now known as Guest20376 2016-03-13T19:20:22 -!- piezo is now known as piezoid 2016-03-13T19:20:32 -!- Guest20376 [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-13T19:27:25 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T19:27:45 -!- piezo [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T19:27:45 -!- piezo is now known as piezoid 2016-03-13T19:31:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T19:32:44 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-13T19:38:35 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T19:39:40 < dekar> dongs, "PS. Thanks for the chips go to dongs from irc." :D 2016-03-13T19:40:29 < dekar> That's quite cool, thanks for helping to make that happen. http://zeptobars.com/en/read/GD32F103CBT6-mcm-serial-flash-Giga-Devices 2016-03-13T19:50:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:5d59:b843:7310:941e] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T19:54:46 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-13T19:56:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-13T20:10:10 < kakimir> please blow up. sincerely, your classmate laurence 2016-03-13T20:14:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T20:15:36 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-13T20:30:55 < Steffanx> *old classmate. Harry is no longer studying. 2016-03-13T20:31:02 < Steffanx> Full grown wizzard now 2016-03-13T20:36:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T20:44:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-13T20:45:20 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T20:50:27 < karlp> qyx: you can always include bsd's queue.h in your code. for lists and queues and fifos and shitz 2016-03-13T20:54:39 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-13T20:58:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T20:58:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T20:58:55 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T20:59:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:5d59:b843:7310:941e] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-13T21:00:07 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T21:00:28 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T21:01:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T21:02:37 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-13T21:04:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T21:05:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-13T21:05:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T21:17:32 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-13T21:23:27 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T21:28:16 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-13T21:34:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T21:43:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T21:43:52 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8HO6hba9ZE 2016-03-13T21:45:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-13T21:46:04 < Steffanx> kakimir on drugs? 2016-03-13T21:46:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T21:46:27 < kakimir> I'm on internet 2016-03-13T21:49:13 < Steffanx> internet is the new drugs? 2016-03-13T21:50:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T21:52:05 < kakimir> https://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/m00/780540115.jpg it was around millenia I think 2016-03-13T21:54:06 < Steffanx> lol finnishland 2016-03-13T21:54:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T21:56:54 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-13T21:57:21 < kakimir> team fortress was good before it was source based game 2016-03-13T21:58:00 < kakimir> enemy territory mod called team fortress 2016-03-13T22:00:27 < Steffanx> The best enemy territory mod is still: TrueCombat:Elite. 2016-03-13T22:00:28 < kakimir> *enemy territory fortress 2016-03-13T22:01:04 < kakimir> it was nice and then it wasn't anymore 2016-03-13T22:01:21 < Steffanx> Yep, same with that game. Played it for over 10 years. :O 2016-03-13T22:01:22 < kakimir> everybody left 2016-03-13T22:03:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-19-176-217.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T22:05:31 < kakimir> I think I tried TC:E one day 2016-03-13T22:05:51 < kakimir> and it wasn't that good looking I remembered it 2016-03-13T22:11:31 < Steffanx> it had the best graphics one could get from the engine kakimir 2016-03-13T22:12:55 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/9VZtfN8.jpg 2016-03-13T22:14:28 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex4g6n8uFuw 2016-03-13T22:14:59 < Steffanx> its much CS alike, but different 2016-03-13T22:16:25 < Steffanx> and currently played by 5 people over the entire world. LOL D: 2016-03-13T22:17:16 < kakimir> those are most likely bots 2016-03-13T22:17:26 < Steffanx> nope, real players 2016-03-13T22:20:47 < Laurenceb_> how can i find where my bss is being used? 2016-03-13T22:21:07 < Laurenceb_> is there any utility which will break it down by source file? 2016-03-13T22:21:10 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-13T22:22:22 < Laurenceb_> objdump and look at symbol table? 2016-03-13T22:22:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-19-176-217.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T22:26:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-198.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-13T22:29:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-19-176-217.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T22:31:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-19-176-217.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-13T22:31:12 < Laurenceb_> this doesnt make any sense :-/ 2016-03-13T22:31:36 < Laurenceb_> objdump is saying data+bss is ~7k, which is what I expected 2016-03-13T22:31:45 < Sync_> oh wat Steffanx 2016-03-13T22:31:52 < Laurenceb_> arm-none-eabi-size main.elf 2016-03-13T22:31:52 < Laurenceb_> text data bss dec hex filename 2016-03-13T22:31:52 < Laurenceb_> 55696 2564 13052 71312 11690 main.elf 2016-03-13T22:31:56 < Sync_> TC:E was awesome when it was around 2016-03-13T22:32:17 < Laurenceb_> 20001d04 <_susrstack>: <- wtf 2016-03-13T22:39:54 < kakimir> I played it with 800mhz machine 2016-03-13T22:40:18 < kakimir> obiviously with little bit beefier AGP card 2016-03-13T22:49:46 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-251-139.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T22:52:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-13T22:52:12 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-224-241.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T22:53:09 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T22:53:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T22:54:13 < Steffanx> it is still aroundish Sync_ :P 2016-03-13T22:55:12 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-251-139.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-13T22:58:47 < Steffanx> but yeah, for many it did a few years ago 2016-03-13T23:13:17 < kakimir> how much fun is 0.8mm BGA? 2016-03-13T23:13:27 < kakimir> 100pin 2016-03-13T23:13:32 < kakimir> 10x10mm 2016-03-13T23:14:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-13T23:16:11 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T23:18:44 < kakimir> should I connect PHY interrupt output to some specific pin? 2016-03-13T23:21:19 < kakimir> just any interrupt enabled GPIO? 2016-03-13T23:21:22 < kakimir> I think 2016-03-13T23:24:40 < kakimir> doing ethernet block for design is propably one of the most easiest tasks 2016-03-13T23:26:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-13T23:27:26 < kakimir> rmii is just cute 2016-03-13T23:27:55 < ds2> rgmii 2016-03-13T23:28:19 < Steffanx> i dont think stm32 does that. 2016-03-13T23:29:11 < kakimir> there is no purpose to have such 2016-03-13T23:30:01 < kakimir> I think I'm going to receive my paycheck at midnight 2016-03-13T23:30:03 < Steffanx> no purpuse? 2016-03-13T23:30:05 < Steffanx> ose 2016-03-13T23:30:22 < kakimir> then I nite ride to snack place 2016-03-13T23:31:22 < kakimir> ose? 2016-03-13T23:31:29 < kakimir> purpose* 2016-03-13T23:32:16 < Steffanx> You spend the few bucks you have on snacks kakimir? Such waste 2016-03-13T23:32:28 < kakimir> such waster 2016-03-13T23:32:45 < kakimir> at least I don't by cigarettes anymore 2016-03-13T23:33:04 < Steffanx> quit smoking? 2016-03-13T23:33:27 < kakimir> just buying 2016-03-13T23:33:41 < kakimir> I bum smoke 2016-03-13T23:34:41 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-13T23:35:17 < Steffanx> from your neighbours 5km away? 2016-03-13T23:35:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T23:35:30 < kakimir> actually 10km 2016-03-13T23:35:40 < kakimir> I don't really visit every day 2016-03-13T23:36:22 < kakimir> also kids hanging out outside store 2016-03-13T23:36:36 < kakimir> like I knew them 2016-03-13T23:37:04 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T23:38:33 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-13T23:38:53 < kakimir> sometimes I do 2016-03-13T23:38:55 < Steffanx> time to start subohming 2016-03-13T23:41:24 < kakimir> I don't know if I really should 2016-03-13T23:41:57 < kakimir> you start to live that thing on your mouth 2016-03-13T23:44:15 < kakimir> or with subohm propably not 2016-03-13T23:46:41 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T23:50:47 < kakimir> is CRS_WKUP for and just for some WOL event? 2016-03-13T23:52:36 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-13T23:52:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-13T23:58:25 < kakimir> no.. I don't go snack place 2016-03-13T23:58:44 < kakimir> I need to save to pcbs --- Day changed Mon Mar 14 2016 2016-03-14T00:01:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T00:01:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T00:16:55 -!- theAdib_ [~theadib@dslb-084-059-006-050.084.059.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T00:19:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-14T00:20:10 -!- theAdib [~theadib@dslb-084-059-006-050.084.059.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-14T00:23:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T00:25:23 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-14T00:55:24 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:803:9601:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-14T01:03:47 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T01:03:54 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-14T01:05:03 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T01:09:46 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine 2016-03-14T01:21:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T01:24:39 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T01:27:28 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T01:27:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T01:31:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T01:31:27 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-03-14T01:32:36 < dongs> fucking garbage assdroid media player cant play 2048x encode, freezes at random 2016-03-14T01:35:00 < boB_K7IQ> Well the android isn't REALLY a real computer is the way that I look at it 2016-03-14T01:35:40 < boB_K7IQ> Their stupidified for the majority 2016-03-14T01:35:44 < boB_K7IQ> they're 2016-03-14T01:43:25 < Laurenceb_> holy shit http://science.slashdot.org/story/16/03/13/2152215/nasa-begins-planning-the-first-human-mission-to-cislunar-space 2016-03-14T01:43:42 < Laurenceb_> I expected lulz but slashdot exceeded expectations 2016-03-14T01:43:46 < dongs> it doesnt fucking matter 2016-03-14T01:44:14 < dongs> the fuck is cislunar 2016-03-14T01:44:30 < Laurenceb_> check your privilege 2016-03-14T01:44:50 < Laurenceb_> http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/s4s/images/0/0a/Die-cis-scum.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140316044801 2016-03-14T01:51:48 < Laurenceb_> right back to work 2016-03-14T01:52:03 < Laurenceb_> I need a scrolling display for my equine project 2016-03-14T01:52:08 < Laurenceb_> the equine 2016-03-14T01:52:15 < Laurenceb_> one unit of horse 2016-03-14T01:53:01 < Laurenceb_> wondering if I should use python or something... 2016-03-14T01:53:06 < Laurenceb_> inb4 labview 2016-03-14T01:53:19 < BrainDamage> i'd use python only to trigger dongs 2016-03-14T01:53:51 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-14T01:57:05 < Laurenceb_> does py2exe actually work? 2016-03-14T01:57:21 < dongs> if by "work" you mean "makes a 30meg .exe with all python garabge inside included" then yes 2016-03-14T01:57:29 < Laurenceb_> heh ok 2016-03-14T01:57:34 -!- Guest9171 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T01:57:37 < englishman> heard r2com description today, 'slavaboo' 2016-03-14T01:57:39 < Laurenceb_> yeah i need a simple exe I can email to users 2016-03-14T01:58:24 < dongs> newfinancialreport.pdf.exe 2016-03-14T01:59:26 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-14T01:59:38 < Laurenceb_> maybe I could get away with matplotlib 2016-03-14T02:03:47 -!- theAdib_ [~theadib@dslb-084-059-006-050.084.059.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T02:05:30 < Laurenceb_> https://gist.github.com/electronut/d5e5f68c610821e311b0 2016-03-14T02:05:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T02:05:39 < Laurenceb_> When the sensor data changes, I'll wait 10 seconds. Then it changes. 2016-03-14T02:05:41 < Laurenceb_> so pro 2016-03-14T02:06:21 < englishman> 0.1Hz horse telemetry 2016-03-14T02:08:55 < Laurenceb_> holy shit http://imgur.com/ruOoeut 2016-03-14T02:08:58 < Laurenceb_> epic dramaz 2016-03-14T02:09:05 < lorenzo> god I hate 1-wire 2016-03-14T02:09:41 < Laurenceb_> lul 1-wire is more fail than i2c 2016-03-14T02:09:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T02:10:00 < englishman> it says 1wire but they forgot ground 2016-03-14T02:11:09 < Laurenceb_> wire 7 inside job 2016-03-14T02:11:52 < dongs> Another boondoggle in the making. A waste of taxpayer dollars. Open your eyes and see the millions being burned away. And all for the wasteland that is Mars. 2016-03-14T02:12:49 < Laurenceb_> nice troll 2016-03-14T02:14:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T02:16:25 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-14T02:16:25 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T02:25:47 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-14T02:38:00 < dongs> why you gotta pump 2016-03-14T02:39:24 < dongs> im not your pal 2016-03-14T02:42:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T02:45:31 < Laurenceb_> this looks slightly more pro http://scipy-cookbook.readthedocs.org/items/Matplotlib_ScrollingPlot.html 2016-03-14T02:51:38 < dongs> except for "py" in uyrl 2016-03-14T02:58:11 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T02:58:38 -!- Shavik 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yea no idea 2016-03-14T03:25:37 < dongs> stupid americans should welcome anyone who wants to clean america up from muslims 2016-03-14T03:29:56 < dongs> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TMZX80I/ 2016-03-14T03:34:46 < dongs> TPS63020 looks great 2016-03-14T03:35:31 < dongs> gonna power up my dildo 2016-03-14T03:40:52 < PeterM> dongs check out the isl91110 2016-03-14T03:41:24 < PeterM> it's cheaper than tps and smalelr than TPS, if your process can handle it 2016-03-14T03:42:46 < dongs> 0.4 pitch dsbga? well, only if im bored 2016-03-14T03:42:47 < dongs> and not that bored. 2016-03-14T03:43:01 < PeterM> because off ball layout iirc it can be done on 6/6 2016-03-14T03:43:06 < dongs> ya 2016-03-14T03:43:10 < dongs> saw that 2016-03-14T03:43:14 < PeterM> its just placement 2016-03-14T03:43:40 < dongs> you dont need anything special to route it 2016-03-14T03:43:46 < PeterM> mmhm 2016-03-14T03:43:49 < dongs> the only signals you ened to breakout are on outer balls 2016-03-14T03:44:27 < dongs> rusure ISL91110 2016-03-14T03:44:30 < dongs> is cheaper than TPS 2016-03-14T03:44:35 < dongs> its like 93c in samples 2016-03-14T03:44:40 < dongs> i dont even see china having ISL stuff 2016-03-14T03:45:46 < PeterM> i was going but USA prices not .cn, .us its quite a bit cheaper from distributors 2016-03-14T03:45:59 < PeterM> but yer, .cn probably has tps cheaper 2016-03-14T03:46:02 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/cx53K4J 2016-03-14T03:46:09 < Laurenceb_> I don't know wtf is going on 2016-03-14T03:46:21 -!- intart [~intart@190.167.169.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T03:47:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=wxpython 2016-03-14T03:47:49 < Laurenceb_> www.wxpython.org/ This site may be hacked. 2016-03-14T03:47:54 < Laurenceb_> luling 2016-03-14T03:48:06 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/T0e5ne0.jpg 2016-03-14T03:48:29 < dongs> fuck 2016-03-14T03:48:31 < dongs> isl is cheaper 2016-03-14T03:48:35 < dongs> and is available 2016-03-14T03:49:11 < dongs> i liek it cuz i dont need resistors to set 3.3V 2016-03-14T03:55:24 < dongs> PeterM: oh did your keyclone shit showe up? 2016-03-14T03:55:39 < dongs> i forgot when that was uspposed to arrive 2016-03-14T03:56:10 < PeterM> uhh, let me check 2016-03-14T03:56:32 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-14T03:56:59 < PeterM> maybe, let me check 2016-03-14T03:58:02 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T03:59:49 < PeterM> nah, not yet, probably tomorrow or wedneday 2016-03-14T04:04:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-153-83.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-14T04:04:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T04:04:07 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T04:05:07 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T04:06:42 -!- MrMobius 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tape that stuff is, compared to the regular shipping tape it is quite thick 2016-03-14T04:14:56 < Sync_> and why is it ... yellow 2016-03-14T04:15:15 < dongs> i think some of it might be provided free by some local courier 2016-03-14T04:15:23 < dongs> chinagirl usually uses insane amounts of SF-branded tape 2016-03-14T04:15:38 < dongs> maybe t he rule is , if you ship by that courier you gotta use their tape 2016-03-14T04:17:03 < PeterM> i think also, cardboard can rip[/tear but tape is much harder to 2016-03-14T04:18:56 < Sync_> we ship a lot of stuff internationally, and never had the parcel fail 2016-03-14T04:19:12 < Sync_> but we are using high quality double layer cartons 2016-03-14T04:19:58 < PeterM> and probably arent going through the high quality package throwers that populate the chinese package distribution networks 2016-03-14T04:20:40 < dongs> yeah i order yellow padded envelopes from china ebay 2016-03-14T04:20:46 < dongs> and they come in a box thats crushed in every possible corner 2016-03-14T04:20:48 -!- intart [~intart@190.167.169.229] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-14T04:21:00 < dongs> "big box? oh, we gotta kick that shit around first" 2016-03-14T04:23:05 < Sync_> probably because it is a shitty chian box 2016-03-14T04:23:25 < Sync_> PeterM: well they are going through international quality package throwers 2016-03-14T04:29:55 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T04:30:24 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T04:44:55 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-14T04:51:18 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-14T04:56:35 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T04:58:21 < dongs> R2COM: yea, use windows 10 2016-03-14T04:59:49 < dongs> win10 is just absolutely great 2016-03-14T05:02:04 < dongs> R2COM: gvim trashed two ~30gb files for me 2016-03-14T05:02:26 < dongs> tried opening them, I know in old version I could just ctrl+c it while it was opening to load it readonly 2016-03-14T05:02:32 < dongs> i just wanted to take a look at start of file 2016-03-14T05:02:47 < dongs> i guess they're using 32bit fileopen or wahtever and it just truncated the shit to zero 2016-03-14T05:02:51 < dongs> gg 2016-03-14T05:05:33 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fBmrYzQUU4 japan 2016-03-14T05:06:24 < talsit> can confirm, we do this routine 3 times a day in the office 2016-03-14T05:07:22 < talsit> ad? it's not an ad, it's what people do, just for excersice 2016-03-14T05:08:48 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zLQ85la9pHo 2016-03-14T05:13:02 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T05:13:28 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/Bozjp0E attn dongs 2016-03-14T05:14:46 < Laurenceb_> they accidentally the first and second laws 2016-03-14T05:15:42 < dongs> wat 2016-03-14T05:45:03 -!- Laurenceb_ 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2016-03-14T06:35:14 < lcd> k 2016-03-14T06:35:20 < lcd> that's not very nice 2016-03-14T06:35:36 < lcd> windows 10 mate 2016-03-14T06:35:53 < PeterM> window 10 freebie version has pretty bad microsoft privacy phone home shit 2016-03-14T06:36:03 < dongs> R2COM: nothing goes wrong, but who the fuck upgrades OS 2016-03-14T06:36:07 < lcd> freebie version? 2016-03-14T06:36:13 < dongs> i even do clean reinstall of shit every year or sro 2016-03-14T06:36:28 < dongs> why? just keep the new fuckign ssd 2016-03-14T06:36:32 < dongs> its probably better than your odl shit anyway. 2016-03-14T06:36:40 < dongs> and all your garbage gamez and shit are on a spinning rust drive anyway 2016-03-14T06:36:45 < dongs> so you can just run those as usual 2016-03-14T06:36:45 < lcd> lol 2016-03-14T06:38:06 < lcd> ok 2016-03-14T06:39:06 < lcd> PeterM, by freebie version do you mean unactivated copy?? 2016-03-14T06:39:32 < PeterM> no, i mean the copy of w10 oyu get for free when you upgrade windows 7/8/8.1 2016-03-14T06:39:41 < lcd> so its cucked? 2016-03-14T06:39:51 < PeterM> yeah mang, it's full of shit 2016-03-14T06:39:52 < lcd> and different from one you buy??? 2016-03-14T06:40:07 < lcd> i'll keep that in mind, never used an upgrade copy however 2016-03-14T06:40:15 < PeterM> it is a bit different yes, the retail version has less data colelction 2016-03-14T06:40:24 < lcd> how about OEM copy 2016-03-14T06:40:24 < PeterM> R2COM, depends 2016-03-14T06:40:32 < PeterM> OEM no 2016-03-14T06:40:54 < PeterM> the type of pirate windows 7 2016-03-14T06:41:18 < PeterM> if you have oem bios emulation activated pirate windows 7 it will work, or may work, but if oyu have KMS pirated windows 7 it wont 2016-03-14T06:42:40 < PeterM> no that may come up but you may not be able to activate 2016-03-14T06:43:08 < lcd> mm 2016-03-14T06:43:25 < dongs> the one youret eligible to free upgrade 2016-03-14T06:43:34 < dongs> and/or the key for which you can buy off ebay 2016-03-14T06:44:23 < PeterM> downlaod win10 N LTSB enterprise from MSDN, download picokms from MDL. if you wanna buy, you can't really buy enterprise n edition :( 2016-03-14T06:45:19 < PeterM> which ever is cheaper 2016-03-14T06:45:48 < dongs> i got pro because io need rdp 2016-03-14T06:46:18 < PeterM> iirc it doesnt pass VTd 2016-03-14T06:46:20 < lcd> remote dong protocol 2016-03-14T06:46:25 < PeterM> MSTSC 2016-03-14T06:46:42 < lcd> grit. 2016-03-14T06:47:52 < lcd> fuck yeah 2016-03-14T06:48:10 < lcd> it's pumped 2 the max 2016-03-14T06:50:23 < lcd> i beg your pardon 2016-03-14T06:50:46 < lcd> well do it 2016-03-14T06:51:17 < lcd> R2COM, 2016-03-14T06:51:42 < lcd> cause. think idiot. 2016-03-14T06:54:24 < lcd> {" 2016-03-14T06:55:20 < PeterM> retail versions you can more your installs 2016-03-14T06:55:27 < PeterM> move 2016-03-14T06:55:37 < PeterM> oem versions oyu cant 2016-03-14T06:55:39 < lcd> PeterM, you're australian look out he may bite 2016-03-14T06:57:00 < PeterM> if you choose buy, then yes, it will probably be 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2016-03-14T09:00:01 < dongs> ... 2016-03-14T09:00:05 < dongs> they're free you fucktardf 2016-03-14T09:00:08 < dongs> it says right in that link 2016-03-14T09:00:19 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:01:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.22] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:02:31 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:03:23 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:04:49 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T09:06:54 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-14T09:07:06 < dongs> < dongs> http://www.st.com/web/en/press/p3802 2016-03-14T09:07:14 < dongs> too stoned 2016-03-14T09:07:27 < PeterM> nah he conveniently dc as you linked it 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2016-03-14T09:15:29 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2016-03-14T09:16:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: alan5, rigid 2016-03-14T09:16:08 -!- rewolff [~wolff@cust-95-128-94-82.breedbanddelft.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:16:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: varesa, artag, Emeryth 2016-03-14T09:17:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: a_morale 2016-03-14T09:17:37 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T09:19:24 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Prototype-PCB/ 2016-03-14T09:19:26 < dongs> haha 2016-03-14T09:19:37 < dongs> he wants somethign that takes a mipi-csi camera input for $250 2016-03-14T09:20:10 < PeterM> just link him $250 chinasmartphone 2016-03-14T09:22:26 < ReadError> To be considered for the project you must find a datasheet for a VB6955CM camera module, review the following datasheet ([url removed, login to view]), find a 5" touchscreen w/datasheet from adafruit, mouser, or digi-key, and select a processor that you will uses and allow you to send picture and video data to the touchscreen. Once you've done this provide me an estimate on how long it'd take 2016-03-14T09:22:26 < ReadError> you to create a schemtic with these componets. I will then chat with you to confirm you've found the datasheet and your choice of processor and touchscreen. 2016-03-14T09:22:26 < ReadError> I've already done everything I'm asking you to do to be considered for the project. This test is to ensure you have the skills I am looking for. 2016-03-14T09:22:28 < ReadError> looooool 2016-03-14T09:24:29 < qyx> uhm 2016-03-14T09:25:20 < ReadError> this site is retarded 2016-03-14T09:25:47 < ReadError> 30-250$ and people expect way too much 2016-03-14T09:25:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T09:27:17 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:27:29 < ReadError> you never see anyone from USA bidding on these things 2016-03-14T09:28:08 < PeterM> yeah, for 30-250 i wouldnt even do a tarduino shield unless it was super basic 2016-03-14T09:28:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:30:45 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:31:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T09:32:03 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T09:32:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:32:59 < dongs> the problem is 2016-03-14T09:33:13 < dongs> anything that will have csi input (like rageberry) is already out of his budget for "prototype pcb" 2016-03-14T09:33:19 < dongs> unless he uses rageberry zero or something 2016-03-14T09:33:29 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:33:34 < dongs> not to mention that you cant actually get datasheets + shit to make that board yourself 2016-03-14T09:34:26 < dongs> oh SAMAD5 has mipi 2016-03-14T09:34:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T09:34:28 < dongs> well okay 2016-03-14T09:34:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:35:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-14T09:35:33 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T09:36:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:38:16 < Fleck> ;p 2016-03-14T09:41:49 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:54:01 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T09:56:03 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T10:01:34 < PeterM> http://imgur.com/a/5nycX dongs 2016-03-14T10:07:26 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-14T10:07:28 < PeterM> the single one is a bit distorted i think this may be because it was on the edge of the tray an hte box may have been hit, but it is still fine for sodlering and as seen the battery fits fine still too 2016-03-14T10:12:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@153.109.1.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T10:22:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-14T10:29:21 < dongs> PeterM: looks good 2016-03-14T10:34:46 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@153.109.1.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-14T10:35:45 < dongs> wiat 2016-03-14T10:35:54 < dongs> why does tha $250 thing have Verilog/VHDL in requirements lol 2016-03-14T10:36:32 < Lemming> ...? 2016-03-14T10:36:43 < dongs> < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Prototype-PCB/ 2016-03-14T10:37:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/KiCad-PCB-component-footprint-design/ ohh found job for kikimir 2016-03-14T10:44:53 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@153.109.1.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T10:59:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T10:59:53 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T11:05:00 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T11:05:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@153.109.1.95] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-14T11:15:32 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-14T11:16:12 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T11:21:07 < karlp> Laurenceb's horsey git repo includes the mercurial repo too? 2016-03-14T11:22:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-62.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T11:24:14 < karlp> Laurenceb: I use kst2 for scrolling live plotting, so at least I don't have to code anything for it. 2016-03-14T11:26:28 < karlp> oh yeah, this is great, thanks peterm: http://imgur.com/T0e5ne0 2016-03-14T11:28:50 < dongs> ror 2016-03-14T11:35:08 < PeterM> kek 2016-03-14T11:40:11 < dongs> http://www.designingwithleds.com/simplify-simplify-tis-ac-led-driver-eliminates-magnetics/ 2016-03-14T11:40:15 < dongs> retweeting 2016-03-14T11:42:41 < PeterM> nice, so as ac voltage cycles your leds look like absolute shit, jsust what we wanted! 2016-03-14T11:43:28 < Lemming> "These diodes allow the switches to close without discharging the capacitors, which allows continuous current flow in the LEDs. Thus the switches aren’t cutting out the LEDs, but rather switching out which bank is seeing the rectified voltage, and which bank is running off its storage capacitor." 2016-03-14T11:43:37 < Lemming> helps when you read the whole article PeterM :-P 2016-03-14T11:45:48 < PeterM> i see that, and i see the capacitor only being charged to Vfw of the led, and there beign no current regulation out of the capacitor into the led 2016-03-14T11:49:19 < zyp> so dimming the led will be through current regulation, not PWM 2016-03-14T11:49:33 < zyp> which people argue tends to change the color temperature of the light 2016-03-14T11:51:19 < karlp> people are pretty used to dimming changing colour temp anyway, why is that a problem? 2016-03-14T11:51:39 < karlp> it's onyl with leds that people even got to start thinking they could have expectations on colour temp... 2016-03-14T11:53:51 < zyp> not saying it's a problem, I'm just making an observation 2016-03-14T11:54:49 < jpa-> as far as i can tell, TPS92411 will make the leds flicker at 100Hz 2016-03-14T11:56:03 < Lemming> jpa-, doesn't look like they ever go to 0V though 2016-03-14T11:56:37 < zyp> Lemming, no, just ripple, which is a function of current draw vs cap size 2016-03-14T11:57:06 < Lemming> sure, but they're going to pulse at 100Hz, not flicker on/off at 100Hz 2016-03-14T11:58:09 < jpa-> but led current will drop a lot when the cap voltage drops e.g. just 0.5V; so seems either you'll have huge ripple or huge caps 2016-03-14T11:58:13 < PeterM> i wonder if you save any money wiht the extra caps + sot 23s + diodes 2016-03-14T11:58:32 < Lemming> PeterM, I think it's more about saving board space as compared to large magnetics 2016-03-14T11:58:57 < zyp> with those huge caps? 2016-03-14T11:59:08 < PeterM> at 23c @ 1ku jsut for the tps i think chinese magnetics are gonna win this one 2016-03-14T11:59:45 < PeterM> you have a minimum fixture size already Lemming, the thing has to be atleast big enough to fit in an edison socket or a bayonett socket 2016-03-14T12:00:07 < PeterM> and led lgihts can easily already have magnetics that fit in those 2016-03-14T12:00:55 < jpa-> nah, there are plenty of led applications that don't use legacy sockets 2016-03-14T12:01:13 < PeterM> sure but those still have boatlaods of room for the magnetics 2016-03-14T12:01:54 < PeterM> i mean, if you have room for dissipating whatever heat, you have enough room for the powersupply 2016-03-14T12:03:06 < PeterM> at the minimum power requirements for no heatsink you would jsut use a capacitive dropper, and for anything bigger you need a heatsink so that is your main design constraight size wise, so you use normal magnetics 2016-03-14T12:04:57 < jpa-> yeah, doesn't seem like the magnetics would be a big problem 2016-03-14T12:05:08 < jpa-> especially as you can use a single inductor for a long chain of leds 2016-03-14T12:06:32 < ReadError> way old 2016-03-14T12:06:39 < PeterM> attn dongs dongs: https://i.imgur.com/tKzJ41R.gifv -fixt 2016-03-14T12:09:09 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T12:17:37 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:502:7801:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T12:41:50 < ReadError> http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/cats-watching-people-eat-naomiuno-8.jpg 2016-03-14T12:41:54 < ReadError> lol the little cutouts 2016-03-14T12:43:40 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T12:43:40 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-14T12:43:40 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T12:43:46 < ReadError> http://www.boredpanda.com/japanese-grumpy-cat-angry-koyuki-scottish-fold/ 2016-03-14T12:50:06 < ReadError> http://gfycat.com/FrayedAromaticBrontosaurus 2016-03-14T12:53:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-62.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-14T12:57:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T13:09:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T13:16:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-62.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T13:23:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-62.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-14T13:29:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-62.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T13:49:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-14T13:51:24 < englishman> should i upgrade to windows 7 2016-03-14T13:51:37 < jpa-> from gnu hurd? definitely. 2016-03-14T13:51:47 < englishman> it is latest newest operating system shipped from america to greatest slavbekistan 2016-03-14T13:52:42 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hf6ke1-i3E 2016-03-14T13:52:59 < qyx> any good source of lifepo4 accus? 2016-03-14T13:53:09 < englishman> accus? 2016-03-14T13:54:06 < jpa-> what size? 2016-03-14T13:54:20 < jpa-> ebike shops have some 2016-03-14T13:56:19 < PeterM> ReadError, i think the two wheeled ute/truck thing was shot twice because i see same shaped tire tracks on the road 2016-03-14T13:57:18 < englishman> PeterM, without clicking i can tell you every shot in that video was made 900 times 2016-03-14T13:57:48 < PeterM> englishman, sure it was practiced that many times but it would have onyl been shot once or twice opn location 2016-03-14T13:57:56 < PeterM> closing public roads costs money 2016-03-14T14:00:03 < PeterM> also, yeah, qyx, what size (physical and capacity) 2016-03-14T14:00:58 < qyx> I literraly searched the whole interwebs and I am not able to choose 2016-03-14T14:01:07 < qyx> 16 cells of under 10Ah 2016-03-14T14:01:23 < qyx> for a 48V power bank 2016-03-14T14:01:44 < qyx> I would go li-po if the charging wasn't as it is 2016-03-14T14:01:47 < PeterM> in that case, google "Headway lifepo4" 2016-03-14T14:01:57 < englishman> cant argue with that, the whole point of ken block is to spend extra money 2016-03-14T14:02:04 < jpa-> http://www.tme.eu/en/details/accu-3.2v-10ah/rechargeable-batteries/ 2016-03-14T14:02:13 < qyx> http://www.ev-power.eu/WINA-30Ah-100Ah/WINA-LiFePO4-Power-3-2V-8Ah-aluminium-case.html 2016-03-14T14:02:18 < qyx> I was considering those 2016-03-14T14:02:22 < qyx> but out of stock 2016-03-14T14:02:44 < PeterM> qyx did oyu google? 2016-03-14T14:02:50 < PeterM> what i suggested 2016-03-14T14:03:23 < PeterM> they arent terribly high c discharge though 2016-03-14T14:04:17 < qyx> I see them now 2016-03-14T14:04:35 < qyx> 3C discharge is enough 2016-03-14T14:05:04 < PeterM> are these suitable for your application as far as size and price goes? 2016-03-14T14:05:59 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:502:7801:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T14:06:22 < qyx> 10Ah cell for $19 is good, yep 2016-03-14T14:08:30 < dongs> where? 2016-03-14T14:08:55 < dongs> oh fucking lifepo 2016-03-14T14:09:18 < dongs> wat kinda joke place is tme.eu 2016-03-14T14:09:26 < dongs> ive only seen it mentione on freelancer 2016-03-14T14:09:42 < englishman> uh why no Wh ratings anywhere on that site 2016-03-14T14:10:08 < englishman> just weird 2016-03-14T14:10:17 < englishman> they give nominal voltage and Ah 2016-03-14T14:10:26 < dongs> wut 2016-03-14T14:10:37 < dongs> you have voltage and Ah isnt that enough!? 2016-03-14T14:10:58 < kakimir> supsup 2016-03-14T14:11:11 < englishman> just weird 2016-03-14T14:11:13 < kakimir> you can limit discharge current by resistor 2016-03-14T14:11:21 < englishman> since most care about neither 2016-03-14T14:11:25 < englishman> just Wh + price 2016-03-14T14:12:17 < Sync_> hm, I need to get me some new lifepos, the ones in my motorcycle start to get shitty 2016-03-14T14:13:08 < PeterM> Sync_, what are you running them in your bike? jsut starter or actual traction 2016-03-14T14:13:28 < kakimir> is there excisting like complete battery management systems that are inexpensive and good? 2016-03-14T14:14:11 < kakimir> cell balancing, charging, discharge safe cutout 2016-03-14T14:14:22 < PeterM> no 2016-03-14T14:14:30 < dongs> speaking of safe cutout 2016-03-14T14:14:46 < Sync_> just so that the ignition will work before the engine runs PeterM 2016-03-14T14:14:51 < Sync_> I have no starter motor in the bike 2016-03-14T14:16:45 < dongs> what should I do for my dildo 2016-03-14T14:17:00 < dongs> i have that TPS buckboost on it 2016-03-14T14:17:07 < dongs> should I put a pfet or something in front of it to really disconnect? 2016-03-14T14:17:20 < dongs> yeah the 56Wh dildo 2016-03-14T14:17:31 < Sync_> dongs: bistable relay 2016-03-14T14:17:39 < dongs> ive bene pasting power management shit in here last few weeks 2016-03-14T14:17:45 < Sync_> (yeah, a pfet is good) 2016-03-14T14:20:20 < PeterM> Sync_, ahh ok 2016-03-14T14:20:47 < Sync_> so I have 2000mAh or whatever A123 cells in there 2016-03-14T14:20:58 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-14T14:21:16 < PeterM> jsut diode-or or jsut in paralulz 2016-03-14T14:21:27 < Sync_> no, just 2000mAh 2016-03-14T14:21:27 < Sync_> :D 2016-03-14T14:21:39 < Sync_> don't need much to get it running 2016-03-14T14:21:49 < Sync_> probably illegal as the headlight sucks them off in no time, but eh 2016-03-14T14:22:14 < kakimir> dongs: how you hope to switch that thing? 2016-03-14T14:22:16 < PeterM> no, i mean with the dynamo - are they connected in paralel with it or is it diode ord 2016-03-14T14:22:24 < englishman> kickstarter https://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/31225/1457148283296885.jpg 2016-03-14T14:22:50 < PeterM> ie, do oyu have any charge regulation or jsut not charged at all 2016-03-14T14:23:26 < Sync_> I just have them connected instead of the lead brick 2016-03-14T14:23:33 < PeterM> ahh 2016-03-14T14:23:36 < englishman> crt: news to me, pretty funny stuff 2016-03-14T14:23:38 < Sync_> because #yolo 2016-03-14T14:23:51 < PeterM> yeah the a123 cells were robust AF 2016-03-14T14:23:54 < englishman> https://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/31225/1457148378444182.jpg 2016-03-14T14:24:05 < Sync_> and I mean, the worst that can happen is that I loose like 30€ or something? 2016-03-14T14:24:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T14:24:32 < englishman> just these 2016-03-14T14:25:15 < PeterM> what am i lookign at 2016-03-14T14:25:48 < PeterM> explain to me what it is liek you were explaining to one of your normie co-workers 2016-03-14T14:26:37 < kakimir> I think my friend is going to start up electronics company 2016-03-14T14:26:49 < kakimir> the thing is he knows nothing about electronics 2016-03-14T14:27:09 < Sync_> PeterM: I have a 4s stack that works out pretty well, the alternator is weak in the bike so it actually almost never overcharges the cells 2016-03-14T14:27:40 < kakimir> he just knows electronics is dirt cheap and doesn't even have to work longer than a short moment 2016-03-14T14:28:00 < englishman> PeterM: the videogame shit? 2016-03-14T14:28:23 < PeterM> Sync_, yeah, thats fair, even if it was strong, those a123 cells can take a beating just fine, they aren't portable bombs like some other li+ chemistries from other manufacturers 2016-03-14T14:28:46 < PeterM> englishman, if thats what you linked, yeah, what is it 2016-03-14T14:28:57 < englishman> it was a kickstarter to make a retro video game console 2016-03-14T14:29:08 < englishman> firstpic was some 'prototype' 2016-03-14T14:29:16 < englishman> which is clearly cardboard and sharpie with some stuff glued on 2016-03-14T14:29:42 < kakimir> crt: no he is someone straight out of school 2016-03-14T14:29:47 < englishman> second one was a 'working prototype' which is some random junk electronis (identified as a pci video capture card) stuffed in a transparent box 2016-03-14T14:30:06 < englishman> i onl posted two 2016-03-14T14:30:17 < englishman> pic? 2016-03-14T14:31:07 < PeterM> ahh, ok, sufficient explanation, so basically some more dickstarter fraud crap 2016-03-14T14:31:12 < kakimir> what is TAMPER-RTC pin? 2016-03-14T14:31:46 < englishman> PeterM: yes but acual fraud not just fraud/ineptitude 2016-03-14T14:31:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T14:32:01 < lorenzo> kakimir: rtc clock calibration out 2016-03-14T14:32:33 < lorenzo> see app note CD00207941.pdf 2016-03-14T14:33:02 < PeterM> englishman, fair enough 2016-03-14T14:33:13 < kakimir> CD00207941.pdf 2016-03-14T14:35:58 < kakimir> some simple sensor required by authorities to every new building 2016-03-14T14:37:08 < kakimir> go ahead 2016-03-14T14:38:02 < kakimir> sorry 2016-03-14T14:38:33 < kakimir> I'm not that interested 2016-03-14T14:38:34 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T14:40:32 < kakimir> googling shit instead of drawing schematic 2016-03-14T14:41:07 < kakimir> besides the device itself wasn't the point 2016-03-14T14:42:37 < kakimir> but that someone without any knowledge of some field goes into bank and walks out having his accounts filled with money 2016-03-14T14:44:43 < kakimir> and because he has some money of his own and some incomes and papers that clearly say that 2+2=5 great profits! 2016-03-14T14:44:58 < kakimir> he get's the loans 2016-03-14T14:45:25 < ReadError> you dont make any sense 2016-03-14T14:46:19 < ReadError> freelance my dickstarter 2016-03-14T14:46:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/CAD-CAM/PCB-layout-design-CADD-design/ 2016-03-14T14:47:01 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/OrZ3mR5.png 2016-03-14T14:47:08 < dongs> this is the attached pcb they want wo rked on 2016-03-14T14:47:16 < ReadError> fuckin india? 2016-03-14T14:47:34 < jpa-> kakimir: so he offered his own money / appartment / similar as security to the loan? totally makes sense to give the loan 2016-03-14T14:47:57 < jpa-> kakimir: how would a bank judge electronics knowhow anyway? 2016-03-14T14:48:06 < kakimir> no way 2016-03-14T14:48:13 < kakimir> it's not their job 2016-03-14T14:48:57 < kakimir> it's purelly looking at papers if the customer is a bum and if not then number of money he wishes is his 2016-03-14T14:49:12 < jpa-> do you understand how secured loans work? 2016-03-14T14:49:31 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-14T14:49:38 < jpa-> so, pretty low risk to the bank 2016-03-14T14:49:54 < kakimir> :] 2016-03-14T14:50:14 < ReadError> 60.Minutes.2016.03.13.Encryption.720p.HDTV.x264-CROOKS 2016-03-14T14:50:20 < ReadError> dis.gon.be.gewd 2016-03-14T14:50:35 < Sync_> w.t.f. 2016-03-14T14:57:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-14T14:59:35 < kakimir> jpa-: I'm just jelly as I can't really do that 2016-03-14T15:00:07 < jpa-> because you have no property? 2016-03-14T15:00:13 < kakimir> true 2016-03-14T15:01:01 < kakimir> of course secures by finnvera but that is expensive money then 2016-03-14T15:01:56 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Implement-router-into-Smart-Bin/ 2016-03-14T15:01:59 < dongs> smart bin? wat 2016-03-14T15:03:43 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T15:04:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.26] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T15:04:39 < trepidacious> How bad is it if the HSYNC and VSYNC inputs to DCMI aren't really synchronous to PIXCLK? 2016-03-14T15:06:09 < trepidacious> I'm hoping that the worst is that I might get unpredictable behaviour on transitions, but just in terms of maybe seeing a transition on a later PIXCLK edge. What I'm really hoping is that it won't cause some undefined behaviour of the DCMI peripheral... 2016-03-14T15:06:44 < dongs> why do you care? 2016-03-14T15:06:51 < dongs> isnt there dcmi timing in reference manual and/or datasheet 2016-03-14T15:06:57 < trepidacious> It seems like it can't be any worse than reading a GPIO that might have an edge when you are reading it 2016-03-14T15:07:11 < dongs> page 160 datasheet 2016-03-14T15:08:03 < trepidacious> dongs: I'll just have a look... 2016-03-14T15:09:35 < dongs> section 5.3.27 of the 405 datasheet 2016-03-14T15:09:45 < trepidacious> Yup, I don't think my image sensor meets those... the hysnc and vsync signals aren't really synchronous with pixclk 2016-03-14T15:10:00 < trepidacious> I'm on 437 so it's 6.3.27 for me, found the signal diagram... 2016-03-14T15:10:01 < dongs> what are they synchronous with then 2016-03-14T15:10:03 < dongs> i dont get it 2016-03-14T15:11:48 < trepidacious> dongs: They are basically an undefined (maybe constant?) delay after the pixclk 2016-03-14T15:12:26 < trepidacious> So image data is set up on falling edge for reading on rising - that's all good. Then the hsync and vsync are kind of more or less aligned to the data, but with some undefined delay in ns 2016-03-14T15:12:47 < trepidacious> so the syncs actually transition about half way through the high period of the pixclk 2016-03-14T15:13:23 < trepidacious> Actually I think there's half a chance they do still meet the datasheet requirements, I didn't realise it was happy with just 0.5 and 1ns... 2016-03-14T15:13:48 < kakimir> dongs: smart bin already done 2016-03-14T15:14:40 < kakimir> https://www.smartbin.com/ 2016-03-14T15:15:26 < trepidacious> dongs: You're meant to read sync codes to work out when the actual image data starts in each line. As long as the DCMI doesn't fall over I think it should be fine, but there might be edges of the sync lines near pixclk edges, on the sensor I've got I think it's probably ok, but I don't know whether another sensor will have a different delay... 2016-03-14T15:16:12 < kakimir> https://www.enevo.com/ 2016-03-14T15:19:35 < trepidacious> dongs: Looking at 8.3 in the reference manual, it seems like the input to the DCMI will look exactly like a GPIO input, and presumably GPIO isn't bothered by looking at synchronous signals... 2016-03-14T15:19:47 < dongs> https://motherboard.vice.com/read/crowdfunded-coleco-chameleon-game-console-is-a-mess 2016-03-14T15:19:51 < dongs> lo 2016-03-14T15:20:36 < dongs> trepidacious: well, you can try and find out. i don't really see any real reason why it would need to be syncronous, is "setup time" the DS refers to the rise time of signal or the timing related to clk? 2016-03-14T15:21:09 < trepidacious> dongs: I think it's probably the timing relative to clock, to be sure that you will read the new state not the old one, but I could be wrong :) 2016-03-14T15:22:02 < trepidacious> dongs: I'll give it a go, I think it will probably work, just maybe jitter around by a pixel, then I need to paste it back together with the sync codes :) 2016-03-14T15:26:21 < dongs> https://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/31225/1457148283296885.jpg this must have been freelancer'd 2016-03-14T15:28:29 < kakimir> s there evidence that freelancerings actually work? 2016-03-14T15:28:34 < dongs> yes 2016-03-14T15:28:40 < dongs> i have $$$ in my freelancer. 2016-03-14T15:28:59 < kakimir> what projects did you complete? 2016-03-14T15:29:06 < dongs> all the ones I was accepted to do 2016-03-14T15:29:42 < kakimir> give an example 2016-03-14T15:30:03 < dongs> PCBA during china holiday, some small altidong dicking around 2016-03-14T15:31:30 < dongs> some paki wanted to hire me for $97/hour for unspecified project but I told him I dont work withotu specifications. 2016-03-14T15:31:33 < dongs> k bbl bath time 2016-03-14T15:32:43 < kakimir> do you go to bath house?= 2016-03-14T15:51:49 < kakimir> hmm stm32 has mains based rtc option 2016-03-14T16:01:07 < dongs> https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/19/100963334_03e26aea4a.jpg 2016-03-14T16:01:11 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ii7PiFE.jpg 2016-03-14T16:01:34 < dongs> today's topic is: balls 2016-03-14T16:03:29 < kakimir> my right ball hurt 2016-03-14T16:03:31 < kakimir> all nite 2016-03-14T16:03:38 < dongs> good news 2016-03-14T16:03:45 < kakimir> could not sleep properly 2016-03-14T16:03:47 < dongs> you are in terminal stages of aids 2016-03-14T16:05:25 < kakimir> can kikes even get aids? 2016-03-14T16:12:11 < dongs> ask beaky 2016-03-14T16:19:18 < dongs> so yeah kikemir 2016-03-14T16:19:24 < dongs> how would i be turning on that pfet 2016-03-14T16:19:26 < dongs> at the dildo battery 2016-03-14T16:19:28 < dongs> enlighten me 2016-03-14T16:19:53 < kakimir> does it have other means for power switching atm? 2016-03-14T16:19:53 < dongs> i was thinking a pushbutton and once MCU wakes up, keep holding it 2016-03-14T16:20:13 < kakimir> I was thinking something like that too 2016-03-14T16:20:18 < dongs> well, now it just turns off DCDC converter 2016-03-14T16:20:27 < dongs> by making pin gpio out, float 2016-03-14T16:20:45 < dongs> but its smaller battery 2016-03-14T16:20:48 < dongs> and its directly connected. 2016-03-14T16:21:20 < kakimir> pushbutton switches pmos on and mcu powers up and starts driving nmos that keeps pmos gate low 2016-03-14T16:21:35 < dongs> yeah. 2016-03-14T16:21:49 < englishman> didnt you already do this bistable thing for other dildo 2016-03-14T16:21:56 < kakimir> we don't want to pass pmos with power button because of polarity protection nature of the circuit 2016-03-14T16:22:01 < dongs> no that was much more complicated 2016-03-14T16:22:12 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T16:22:13 < dongs> and there was no power switch 2016-03-14T16:22:19 < dongs> and it doesnt work with stm32 2016-03-14T16:22:22 < dongs> because of ESD diodes 2016-03-14T16:23:04 < kakimir> also you can implement some crude inrush protection with that pmos 2016-03-14T16:23:23 < kakimir> by doing little RC time circuit to it 2016-03-14T16:24:20 < dongs> im referncing some beefy opensores battery management with kawaii name http://bunniefoo.com/novena/pvt1_release/senoko-dvt.PDF 2016-03-14T16:26:58 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T16:30:50 < kakimir> hmm double pmos 2016-03-14T16:31:39 < kakimir> they wish to control current in both directions 2016-03-14T16:32:39 < kakimir> why 2016-03-14T16:33:12 < kakimir> what is seneko dtv? 2016-03-14T16:33:19 < kakimir> *dvt 2016-03-14T16:33:36 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T16:40:17 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-14T16:40:25 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T16:43:45 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-14T16:44:01 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T16:52:29 < kakimir> dongs: when you come back you must tell about http://bunniefoo.com/novena/pvt1_release/senoko_dvt1_sm.jpg 2016-03-14T16:52:42 < dongs> what about it 2016-03-14T16:53:54 < kakimir> what is it 2016-03-14T16:54:01 < dongs> waht the fuck does it look like bro 2016-03-14T16:54:09 < dongs> its a RC lipo battery management thing 2016-03-14T16:55:06 < kakimir> does it abuse some sata connector there? 2016-03-14T16:55:17 < dongs> thats exactly waht it does yes 2016-03-14T16:55:21 < dongs> sata = power out 2016-03-14T16:55:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T16:55:40 < dongs> you can check pinout in that pdf 2016-03-14T16:55:46 < dongs> hopefully if you connect a HDD to it, it will instantly fry it 2016-03-14T16:57:01 < kakimir> is there any info page for this? 2016-03-14T16:57:17 < dongs> which part? 2016-03-14T16:57:31 < kakimir> this board 2016-03-14T16:57:53 < dongs> not any more htan waht I've already pasted 2016-03-14T16:57:59 < dongs> there's a page that shows how to use stm32flash to program it 2016-03-14T16:58:16 < kakimir> they provide binary and all? 2016-03-14T16:58:25 < dongs> its opensores 2016-03-14T16:59:07 < kakimir> is this in your dildo? 2016-03-14T16:59:27 < zyp> no, it's in your mom's dildo 2016-03-14T16:59:36 < dongs> zing'd by zyp 2016-03-14T17:01:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:12:20 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:13:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-14T17:14:08 < kakimir> stm32 seem to have sucky manuals 2016-03-14T17:16:09 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T17:16:44 < kakimir> to find how to use some pin I have to go for some demo board pdf 2016-03-14T17:18:53 < kakimir> and yet I don't know 2016-03-14T17:19:50 < kakimir> so there is these basic scheme of documents: datasheet, reference manual, application notes + demo board pdfs? 2016-03-14T17:20:06 < jpa-> who reads those last two 2016-03-14T17:20:11 < jpa-> refman + datasheet is enough 2016-03-14T17:20:50 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:21:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-14T17:23:10 < kakimir> okay how tamper pin really works? 2016-03-14T17:23:32 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:24:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-62.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T17:24:33 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-14T17:24:46 < jpa-> kakimir: it gives you interrupt and also clears out some part of RTC ram 2016-03-14T17:26:36 < kakimir> that is the level it's being described in the sheets too 2016-03-14T17:27:10 < kakimir> you have to make assumptions 2016-03-14T17:27:15 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-14T17:27:35 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:28:03 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T17:28:20 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:28:22 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T17:29:27 < zyp> dongs, what was that new usb connector I should change to? 2016-03-14T17:29:30 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:29:30 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-14T17:29:52 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:29:58 < dongs> sec 2016-03-14T17:30:31 < jpa-> usb 3 micro-b of course 2016-03-14T17:30:38 < dongs> noticed 2016-03-14T17:31:02 < zyp> super sekrit 2016-03-14T17:31:13 < dongs> cloners in teh channel 2016-03-14T17:31:15 < dongs> need to watch otu 2016-03-14T17:31:17 < zyp> haha 2016-03-14T17:31:25 < zyp> isn't it already in the channel logs though? 2016-03-14T17:31:39 < dongs> no 2016-03-14T17:31:39 < jpa-> it's already cloned 2016-03-14T17:33:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:33:45 < kakimir> it doesn't tell if tamper pin supply anything 2016-03-14T17:34:05 < kakimir> or does it supply anything ever when low power states 2016-03-14T17:34:14 < jpa-> ? 2016-03-14T17:34:34 < kakimir> it says it's functional even without VDD supply 2016-03-14T17:34:46 < mitrax> kakimir: you need something on VBAT 2016-03-14T17:34:47 < kakimir> and erases BK blocks 2016-03-14T17:34:48 < zyp> it's in the backup domain 2016-03-14T17:34:54 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:34:58 < zyp> so it's supplied by Vbat when Vdd is unavailable 2016-03-14T17:35:16 < kakimir> but is the pin supplied? 2016-03-14T17:35:23 < mitrax> it's an input 2016-03-14T17:35:46 < kakimir> does it have pullup when VBAT powered? 2016-03-14T17:37:14 < mitrax> yes, but they're only enabled when sampling for the state iirc 2016-03-14T17:37:24 < jpa-> i would say no 2016-03-14T17:38:18 < kakimir> this is what I mean 2016-03-14T17:38:52 < zyp> did you read the RM? 2016-03-14T17:39:03 < zyp> I would expect it to be explained there 2016-03-14T17:39:18 < jpa-> doesn't actually explain it there, but no mentions about any pull-up 2016-03-14T17:39:58 < jpa-> though i guess if you configure it to enable pull-up, that would stay normally 2016-03-14T17:40:04 < jpa-> easy enough to check and be sure, if it matters 2016-03-14T17:40:24 < mitrax> "The TAMPER inputs are pre-charged through the I/O internal pull-up resistance before its 2016-03-14T17:40:24 < mitrax> state is sampled, unless disabled by setting TAMPPUDIS to 1,The duration of the precharge 2016-03-14T17:40:24 < mitrax> is determined by the TAMPPRCH bits, allowing for larger capacitances on the tamper inputs." 2016-03-14T17:40:51 < jpa-> hm, is that rtcv2? i was reading F1 refman 2016-03-14T17:41:24 < kakimir> okay there is pullup for some sampling period 2016-03-14T17:41:25 < mitrax> oh this if for F4, didn't pay attention to what chip kakimir is actually using 2016-03-14T17:41:33 < kakimir> F107 2016-03-14T17:41:57 < jpa-> on F1, my best bet would be that there is whatever you have configured for the io pin before sleep 2016-03-14T17:42:15 < jpa-> but check to be sure 2016-03-14T17:42:35 < kakimir> I dont think it could be constant because you could drain battery with it 2016-03-14T17:42:49 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-14T17:42:54 < jpa-> of course you can drain battery if you do silly things? 2016-03-14T17:43:20 < kakimir> in demo board there is external pull up 4k7 2016-03-14T17:43:48 < jpa-> i'd put that anyway if there are any significant wires attached 2016-03-14T17:44:45 < jpa-> are you trying to stop people from stealing your smas? 2016-03-14T17:45:07 < kakimir> I plan to have simple.. :) 2016-03-14T17:45:20 < kakimir> simple wire / spring type of switch 2016-03-14T17:45:21 < mitrax> ahaahah 2016-03-14T17:51:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T17:52:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-14T18:02:04 < kakimir> shorts to case lid 2016-03-14T18:02:18 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T18:02:26 < kakimir> not that I need to have it but when there is such pin then why not 2016-03-14T18:03:05 < dongs> http://cpc.farnell.com/pimoroni/pim113/display-o-tron-hat-for-raspberry/dp/SC1397309 2016-03-14T18:03:08 < dongs> buying 10 2016-03-14T18:04:24 < qyx> lol 2016-03-14T18:05:00 < dongs> such rainbow, haha 2016-03-14T18:07:56 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:16:56 < kakimir> hmm what is the meaning of these boot pins.. main flash memmory, system memmory, embedded sram? 2016-03-14T18:17:22 < kakimir> what do I need this thing for? 2016-03-14T18:18:21 < kakimir> what I have seen in LPCs is just device select for isp boot 2016-03-14T18:20:49 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-14T18:21:08 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:28:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.154] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:30:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:42:36 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:42:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:42:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T18:52:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-14T18:54:58 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-14T19:05:30 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T19:07:13 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T19:20:35 < kakimir> why there is need for boot memory switch guys? ..okay system memmory means ISP 2016-03-14T19:21:04 < kakimir> but SRAM boot? how you are supposed to boot from SRAM in the first place? 2016-03-14T19:21:41 < kakimir> without having like debugger to dump that code there 2016-03-14T19:23:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T19:26:02 < kakimir> I don't see how it would load it itself there without booting from flash first and then reseting 2016-03-14T19:26:18 < kakimir> with external device asserting those pins 2016-03-14T19:29:09 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmxzcyZN9Nk very nice plane building 2016-03-14T19:36:33 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7qJjj2RNvE 1000m take-off and able to land on grass field 2016-03-14T19:37:15 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T19:44:50 < Laurenceb_> Nothing will make me vote for Trump other than a gun to my head, there are plenty of serious candidates with sound ideas and platforms out there like McAfee and Vermin Supreme 2016-03-14T19:46:50 < kakimir> laurence m8 do you really need to pull boot pins also up like in demoboard there is switch between GND and +3v3 2016-03-14T19:47:27 < kakimir> stub of document fails to describe pin default states throughtly 2016-03-14T19:49:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T19:49:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T19:50:02 < Laurenceb_> well boot1 doesnt need a pull up/down 2016-03-14T19:50:05 < Laurenceb_> boot0 does 2016-03-14T19:50:23 < kakimir> whatahell 2016-03-14T19:50:40 < kakimir> why 2016-03-14T19:52:10 < Laurenceb_> cuz of the logic table in the datasheet n00b 2016-03-14T19:52:13 < Laurenceb_> http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf 2016-03-14T19:52:17 < Laurenceb_> das racist ^ 2016-03-14T19:52:58 < Laurenceb_> so short lol 2016-03-14T19:54:04 < Laurenceb_> diagram 1 is so pro 2016-03-14T19:55:02 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3l7fgvrEKM musicspams 2016-03-14T19:56:29 < Laurenceb_> Michelle Obama needs to learn to latex 2016-03-14T19:56:43 < Laurenceb_> no bibliography, all references as footnotes wtf 2016-03-14T19:57:04 < kakimir> tl;dr 2016-03-14T19:57:21 < kakimir> front page made me exhausted 2016-03-14T20:01:39 < Steffanx> Where are the other 48 pages Laurenceb_? 2016-03-14T20:02:39 < Steffanx> Also Typewriter > LaTeX 2016-03-14T20:03:30 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-14T20:04:44 < Laurenceb_> someone got lazy scanning 2016-03-14T20:12:36 < Laurenceb_> I should find some more theses from famous people for trolling purposes 2016-03-14T20:12:51 < Laurenceb_> The purpose of this study is to examine various attitudes of Black Princeton alumni in their present state and as they are perceived by the alumni to have changed over time 2016-03-14T20:12:55 < Laurenceb_> how do i grammar 2016-03-14T20:15:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T20:24:25 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T20:25:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T20:32:00 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T20:32:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-14T20:33:08 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T20:36:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T20:44:06 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T20:44:07 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T20:44:09 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-03-14T21:02:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-14T21:09:13 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-14T21:24:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T21:25:27 < Laurenceb_> http://wdlabs.wd.com/products/wd-pidrive-314gb/ 2016-03-14T21:25:28 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-03-14T21:28:11 < ReadError> where is r2com 2016-03-14T21:28:12 < ReadError> http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/russia-warns-donald-trump-of-assassination-plot/ 2016-03-14T21:28:16 < ReadError> i need to axe him about this 2016-03-14T21:28:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-14T21:32:23 < lorenzo> Laurenceb_: can't believe they actually put effort in designing such things 2016-03-14T21:32:39 < lorenzo> I honestly hope for WD it's just a batch of 500GB drives gone wrong, cut to 314 GB :D 2016-03-14T21:36:17 < lorenzo> I think raspberry PI can't even boot from a proper drive, just sd 2016-03-14T21:38:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-14T21:39:44 < kakimir> good guy russia 2016-03-14T21:40:28 < kakimir> who paid who 2016-03-14T21:48:13 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T21:49:49 < artag> I don't think WDLABS == WD 2016-03-14T21:50:19 < artag> oh, wait, they are. how odd 2016-03-14T21:57:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.32.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-14T22:16:00 < Steffanx> even at wd.com artag ;) 2016-03-14T22:28:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T22:33:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T22:40:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-234.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-14T22:45:33 < kakimir> can I start kelvin trace from any edge of pad 2016-03-14T22:45:38 < kakimir> ? 2016-03-14T22:46:39 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7DrufbZks pretty fancy stuff for "just" an stm32F7. 2016-03-14T22:46:50 < kakimir> if I need to trace the high current path lets say 2016-03-14T22:47:17 < kakimir> under the component. can I then choose the opposing edge for kelvin trace? 2016-03-14T22:49:45 < kakimir> stm32 has beef for those waterfalls? 2016-03-14T22:50:41 < Steffanx> no the AD9958 probably does that 2016-03-14T22:50:51 < Steffanx> oh no nevermind 2016-03-14T22:51:18 < Steffanx> i read dsp instead of DDS :P 2016-03-14T22:51:37 < kakimir> "art processor" 2016-03-14T22:52:13 < Steffanx> blame st for the name 2016-03-14T22:53:05 < Steffanx> my russian sucks, but it seem the f7 is doing it all. ( And looking at the otehr videos they even started with an F103 2016-03-14T22:53:05 < kakimir> it's like dedicated DMA 2016-03-14T22:54:00 < kakimir> that can copy paste bitmaps in memmory 2016-03-14T23:02:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-14T23:03:02 < Sync_> seksi Steffanx 2016-03-14T23:05:19 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-14T23:27:46 < Laurenceb_> holy shit thats pro 2016-03-14T23:29:29 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-14T23:46:04 < Laurenceb_> how do I solve circular dependencies? 2016-03-14T23:46:12 < karlp> how do I save cycle? http://bcas.tv/paste/results/TileZB89.html 2016-03-14T23:46:26 < karlp> Laurenceb_: normally, pull your file into smaller pieces so they can both include linearly 2016-03-14T23:47:13 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-03-14T23:47:45 < karlp> in that paste, things went from 1643 cycles to 121 cycles for implicit doubles vs hard float singles, then down to 31 cycles after -O0 was changed to -Os :) 2016-03-14T23:47:46 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10759918 2016-03-14T23:47:54 < Laurenceb_> I literally dont know whats going on 2016-03-14T23:49:18 < Laurenceb_> ah ok, moving some header includes to top of c files rather than header files fixes it 2016-03-14T23:52:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-234.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-14T23:59:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] --- Day changed Tue Mar 15 2016 2016-03-15T00:06:29 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-15T00:30:37 < Steffanx> Welcome back crt. 2016-03-15T00:30:56 < Steffanx> Fine fine. How's Gary? 2016-03-15T00:31:50 < Steffanx> How can Mr. Aussia not know Gary. 2016-03-15T00:32:16 < Steffanx> Gary the goat. 2016-03-15T00:33:30 -!- Thaolia- [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-15T00:38:56 < Steffanx> ofcourse. 2016-03-15T00:40:26 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T00:45:35 < Steffanx> No such adventures today. Except for stumbling upon some fancy stm32f7 project. 2016-03-15T00:50:57 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7DrufbZks crt, for your eyes only. 2016-03-15T00:52:49 < Steffanx> its russian, so no sound required 2016-03-15T00:55:49 < kakimir> recommend movies? 2016-03-15T00:58:15 < Laurenceb_> https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8878395&cid=51696459 2016-03-15T01:00:57 < kakimir> very cool Laurenceb_ 2016-03-15T01:01:07 < kakimir> there is optimizing process certainly 2016-03-15T01:02:32 < kakimir> my recoms.: Scary MoVie 2016-03-15T01:06:28 < kakimir> one before was shiet iirc. 2016-03-15T01:09:56 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-15T01:10:21 < kakimir> 4 2016-03-15T01:12:34 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T01:22:47 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/EMoph5S 2016-03-15T01:22:48 < Laurenceb_> https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/get/bucket:12.21/p/coub/simple/cw_timeline_pic/b380b96b10e/89ec3f99dc3d911d97060/big_1409271844_1382471972_image.jpg 2016-03-15T01:24:14 < kakimir> how soon it is some sort of war after trump has been elected? 2016-03-15T01:25:12 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/cH3Nn59.jpg 2016-03-15T01:25:54 < Laurenceb_> 4chan confirmed 2016-03-15T01:27:57 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/qnvevA3 2016-03-15T01:28:11 < Laurenceb_> epic dramaz 2016-03-15T01:30:43 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/lE40qOk 2016-03-15T01:33:18 < Laurenceb_> rare snek http://imgur.com/VFhOi5i 2016-03-15T01:33:24 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-15T01:38:07 -!- ac|work [~ardu@87.252.238.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T01:40:01 < Sync_> amaze coils 2016-03-15T01:40:07 < Sync_> it must work 2016-03-15T01:41:15 < Sync_> noice 2016-03-15T01:46:37 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-15T01:47:03 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used qt? 2016-03-15T01:47:27 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying this but its failing epically I'm trying this http://www.qcustomplot.com/index.php/tutorials/settingup 2016-03-15T01:53:28 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T01:53:45 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/Xac5Imk.png 2016-03-15T01:54:11 < Laurenceb_> like wtf 2016-03-15T01:54:20 < Laurenceb_> example projects should at least compile 2016-03-15T02:04:58 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-15T02:05:00 < Laurenceb_> aha I was trying to build the wrong thing 2016-03-15T02:05:03 < Laurenceb_> stupid gui 2016-03-15T02:06:53 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFZsH62ewYo how to utilize piezos 2016-03-15T02:07:01 < kakimir> used in camera lenses 2016-03-15T02:16:29 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:502:7801:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T02:20:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T02:21:52 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lviiimmlnpjiagcm] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T02:22:17 < Laurenceb_> yay I made a gui 2016-03-15T02:22:24 < Laurenceb_> this is nicer than python 2016-03-15T02:26:10 < MightyPork> hi, if anyone remember that USART protocol thing I was inventing, now I have a reference implementation! 2016-03-15T02:26:16 < MightyPork> -> https://github.com/MightyPork/sbmp 2016-03-15T02:27:25 < MightyPork> basically CRC'd packets over USART or anything similar, with Sessions (so reply is tied to request) 2016-03-15T02:44:27 < emeb> got a couple of those cheap-ass ST-LINK V2 USB dongles from Aliexpress. Only took 'em 2 mo to get here by slow boat. Seems to work OK though. 2016-03-15T02:45:33 < emeb> http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/7290760026.html 2016-03-15T02:48:05 < MightyPork> got one like that from ebay, just with metal casing. Arrived in like 2 weeks, also works well 2016-03-15T02:53:10 < PeterM> emeb, i think if those stlink dongles had a microusb socket on them they'd be 10x better 2016-03-15T02:54:31 < emeb> PeterM: yeah, and if the JTAG / SWD side was more standard that would help too. 2016-03-15T02:55:53 < PeterM> mmm, i kinda agree - but if your board isn't tiny and you use a desktop its a bit of a pain in the ass to get the stlink close to the board, much moreso then changign the pinout on your designed board 2016-03-15T02:56:14 < PeterM> though, not followign a standard is a bit of a pain i the ass as it is 2016-03-15T02:56:45 < emeb> It's not hard to fake out the right pin arrangement using some DuPont cables, but still... 2016-03-15T02:57:21 < emeb> And you can get USB extension cords too, but overall it's not an ideal arrangement. 2016-03-15T02:58:04 < lorenzo> why bother with a $2.5 programmer when the genuine st-link v2 is like $9? 2016-03-15T02:58:23 -!- Degreez [~AndChat10@h31-8-197-255.dyn.bashtel.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T02:59:14 -!- Degreez [~AndChat10@h31-8-197-255.dyn.bashtel.ru] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-15T02:59:43 < lorenzo> ah no, you're right, it's $19. meh 2016-03-15T02:59:57 < lorenzo> thought I paid it less :/ 2016-03-15T03:02:28 < emeb> It's not too $$ to just get a Nucleo board 2016-03-15T03:02:47 < emeb> Plus, shipping delays from Ali are horrible, so don't go this way if you're in a hurry. 2016-03-15T03:04:19 < lorenzo> emeb: eh, when I started out with stm32 I bought a nucleo, a discovery and st-link from mouser 2016-03-15T03:04:26 < lorenzo> just to realize all I needed was the nucleo :D 2016-03-15T03:05:49 < emeb> lorenzo: yeah - they don't make that really clear. 2016-03-15T03:06:44 < lorenzo> I just didn't expect a $9 board to have a debugger onboard, maybe more powerful than the main microcontroller itself 2016-03-15T03:07:03 < emeb> nucleos and discovery boards are a good value. 2016-03-15T03:07:25 < emeb> it's one of the best ideas that ST has had - selling those so cheap. 2016-03-15T03:08:44 < lorenzo> yeah, along with proper documentation, emeb 2016-03-15T03:09:09 < lorenzo> I've tried different ARM eval boards, MSP432, Tiva C, LPC 1768 2016-03-15T03:09:21 < lorenzo> but they're all sitting in the drawer :/ 2016-03-15T03:09:36 < emeb> ST's dox aren't 100%, but once you understand how they divide the info up between data sheet and reference manual they do OK. 2016-03-15T03:09:36 < lorenzo> the software is either too clunky/buggy (TI) or too crippled (NXP) 2016-03-15T03:10:31 < emeb> I tried to do some stuff with the low-end NXP LPC parts and was stymied due to the tools and docs. 2016-03-15T03:10:35 < emeb> ST has spoiled me. 2016-03-15T03:11:20 < PeterM> whilst STs docs are written by interns, everyone elses docs are written by either the marketing department os apes (or both) 2016-03-15T03:12:13 < emeb> heh - so true. 2016-03-15T03:12:34 < lorenzo> I appreciate Atmel too for that, they're one of the few vendors which doesn't try to sell you something at each paragraph of a application note / reference / whatever 2016-03-15T03:12:43 < emeb> I've got a buddy who works in apps eng at MCHP and has horror stories about the way their docs are written. 2016-03-15T03:12:54 < Sync_> #yolo? 2016-03-15T03:15:02 < Laurenceb_> qt is quite nice 2016-03-15T03:15:14 < Laurenceb_> I like the timer and connect stuff 2016-03-15T03:15:23 < Laurenceb_> nicer than python 2016-03-15T03:16:32 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdhtMvKWIAADjWt.jpg:large 2016-03-15T03:17:21 < dongs> Laurenceb_ found 2016-03-15T03:22:00 < PeterM> nah thats too funny to be Laurenceb_ 2016-03-15T03:22:22 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.169.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T03:29:20 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-15T03:54:57 < Laurenceb_> dongs clearly prefers python to qt 2016-03-15T03:55:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-15T03:55:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-15T03:56:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T03:58:17 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T04:02:17 < Laurenceb_> The furry map shows germany has more furries per square mile than any nation on the planet, thats troubling. 2016-03-15T04:02:23 < Laurenceb_> status: checking 2016-03-15T04:04:24 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-15T04:10:33 < Laurenceb_> virtual qint64 readData(char * data, qint64 maxSize) 2016-03-15T04:10:43 < Laurenceb_> 64 bits... what could possibly go wrong 2016-03-15T04:11:11 < Lemming> http://i.imgur.com/ReSFPot.jpg <--- LAWL! 2016-03-15T04:12:20 < dongs> how do those p eople get verified twitter account 2016-03-15T04:12:53 < Laurenceb_> attn crt: http://i.imgur.com/glEHn6F.jpg 2016-03-15T04:13:02 < dongs> unfunny 2016-03-15T04:14:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T04:25:03 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.169.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-15T04:28:39 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/MBOTHqJ.jpg trump plane 2016-03-15T04:28:39 < dongs> windowsupdate is downloading shit at 60k/sec 2016-03-15T04:29:16 < englishman> maybe your isp throttles torrents 2016-03-15T04:29:40 < ReadError> get the offline bundle 2016-03-15T04:29:48 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T04:33:31 < PeterM> dongle use wsus 2016-03-15T04:34:15 < ReadError> i just dont update 2016-03-15T04:34:15 < Laurenceb_> I use linux cuz my real name is Linus 2016-03-15T04:34:17 < ReadError> its easier 2016-03-15T04:36:22 < Laurenceb_> it just twerks 2016-03-15T04:36:23 < ReadError> win7 for lyfe 2016-03-15T04:36:25 < Laurenceb_> assOS 2016-03-15T04:47:43 < ReadError> oi it works fine 2016-03-15T05:00:04 < dongs> PeterM: wsus on win10? comeon, im way too lazy 2016-03-15T05:08:25 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lviiimmlnpjiagcm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-15T05:14:52 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T05:33:51 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T05:43:46 < ReadError> R2COM 2016-03-15T05:43:50 < ReadError> http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/russia-warns-donald-trump-of-assassination-plot/ 2016-03-15T05:44:20 < ReadError> what have you heard from your comrades ? 2016-03-15T06:02:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T06:02:29 < Laurenceb_> lol the comments 2016-03-15T06:02:31 < Laurenceb_> https://www.illuminatiofficial.org/join-the-illuminati/join/ 2016-03-15T06:02:42 < Laurenceb_> that got spam linked 2016-03-15T06:02:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T06:08:17 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-15T07:15:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-15T07:19:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T07:40:22 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-15T07:41:57 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-15T07:42:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T07:44:20 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T08:04:08 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T08:05:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-56ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T08:08:35 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:544:7a01:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T08:11:37 < dongs> zyp i dont believe i have your new address for junk 2016-03-15T08:11:41 < dongs> plz /notice asap 2016-03-15T08:14:11 < jpa-> Zyp's Junk c/o Zyp's pants, 0001 Oslo Norway 2016-03-15T08:14:57 < dongs> hm 2016-03-15T08:14:57 < dongs> no 2016-03-15T08:14:59 < dongs> i should have it 2016-03-15T08:15:21 < dongs> ya is ent shit in january 2016-03-15T08:15:24 < dongs> that was alreadynew 2016-03-15T08:16:41 < dongs> guys, I am trying to design a quantum non-demolition detector on microstrip for gravitational waves 2016-03-15T08:16:44 < dongs> I came up with a design, basically you have bars with different lengths coupled via a strip perpendicular to the bars and tangent to a ring resonator where it injects a signal into the ring 2016-03-15T08:16:59 < dongs> emdrive troll detected 2016-03-15T08:17:08 < dongs> time to freelance 2016-03-15T08:17:39 < englishman> its like adding a yagi to the large hadron collider 2016-03-15T08:19:11 < dongs> Yagi the bear? 2016-03-15T08:19:25 < englishman> the extremely directional bear 2016-03-15T08:20:02 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Blueetooth-remote-SCH-PCB-design/ 2016-03-15T08:20:06 < dongs> this is pretty easy 2016-03-15T08:20:07 < dongs> but not for $250 2016-03-15T08:20:16 < dongs> its mebbe a couple hours of actual "work" 2016-03-15T08:20:28 < dongs> and like 5 hours of jerking off on irc 2016-03-15T08:20:39 < englishman> 250aud = 50usd 2016-03-15T08:20:45 < dongs> oh lol 2016-03-15T08:20:48 < dongs> AUD< urrite 2016-03-15T08:20:50 < dongs> forget it. 2016-03-15T08:21:12 < jpa-> AUDS 2016-03-15T08:21:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Design-CMOS-ADC/ 2016-03-15T08:21:19 < dongs> haha 2016-03-15T08:21:37 < englishman> also you forgot the bluetooth tax 2016-03-15T08:22:42 < dongs> 2000 rmb = $300 2016-03-15T08:22:54 < dongs> r2com probably wouldnt even get out of bed for $300 to double click cadence.exe 2016-03-15T08:23:30 < englishman> why doesnt beakymir bid on more of these 2016-03-15T08:23:57 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Illustration/Need-custom-photo-realistic-image/ retroVGS found 2016-03-15T08:24:38 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Order-Electronic-component-ship-them/ 2016-03-15T08:24:44 < dongs> thats ez 2016-03-15T08:24:44 < englishman> for $7/hr it might cost more than cardboard + used connectors 2016-03-15T08:25:45 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@72.35.133.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T08:26:00 < PeterM> the extremely directional bear 2016-03-15T08:26:07 < PeterM> yagi bear, more directional than your average bear 2016-03-15T08:26:25 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Design-electronics-PCB/ 2016-03-15T08:26:30 < dongs> All electronic files will be delivered in an open, editable format to the client. 2016-03-15T08:26:33 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@72.35.133.5] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-15T08:26:37 < dongs> I'm not sure if I want an open, editable format. 2016-03-15T08:27:33 < PeterM> all formats are poen and editable, they have hxd rite? 2016-03-15T08:27:40 < jpa-> how about edible format? 2016-03-15T08:27:52 < qyx> seems you are freelancing a bit 2016-03-15T08:28:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Redesign-our-PCB-add-Bluetooth/ attn PeterM 2016-03-15T08:28:08 < dongs> job 4 u 2016-03-15T08:29:06 < PeterM> nah fuckthat 2016-03-15T08:29:14 < dongs> qyx: can you download dannysfiles.rar from that last one? 2016-03-15T08:29:21 < dongs> its 404'd for me 2016-03-15T08:31:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-56ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-15T08:31:56 < qyx> dongs: no 2016-03-15T08:32:03 < dongs> i think its a link to 'files' tab 2016-03-15T08:32:07 < dongs> which is private per project 2016-03-15T08:32:17 < dongs> fucken newbs 2016-03-15T08:32:18 < qyx> thgey provably failed with the ' 2016-03-15T08:32:28 < qyx> probably even 2016-03-15T08:32:49 < qyx> or that 2016-03-15T08:35:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-15T08:36:07 < PeterM> dongs http://www.engineeringjobs.com.au/engineering-industry-salary-information 2016-03-15T08:38:12 < dongs> obviosuly the cant afford that 2016-03-15T08:38:37 < englishman> so like $50k usd 2016-03-15T08:38:44 < englishman> why even bother with 6 years school 2016-03-15T08:38:58 < PeterM> that is graduating salary 2016-03-15T08:39:03 < englishman> a dude washing cars at a chrysler dealership makes that 2016-03-15T08:40:21 < PeterM> avg salary is around 95k usd 2016-03-15T08:40:43 < PeterM> if the exchange rate hadnt tanked over the last few years it would be much closer 2016-03-15T08:45:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T08:52:22 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-15T08:55:16 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@72.35.133.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T08:55:44 < ReadError> why so many injuns on freelancer 2016-03-15T08:58:27 < ds2> hmmmm 0ohm resistors seems to the trash heap of resistors 2016-03-15T09:01:04 < ds2> they are a horrible pit of dispair 2016-03-15T09:01:26 < ds2> problem with 0 ohm is they are not truely 0 ohm 2016-03-15T09:01:28 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/I3f2ljr.jpg englishman aandrew 2016-03-15T09:01:36 < ds2> and that 5% spec doesn't apply (5% of 0 is well 0) 2016-03-15T09:01:58 < ds2> a 0ohm is really a 0-0.050 ohm resistor per some specs 2016-03-15T09:02:14 < ds2> except it carries a 0.5A max rating (0603/0402) 2016-03-15T09:02:30 < PeterM> i thought 0 ohm resistors were +/- 5% of 2nd lowest resistor value in that series by manufacturer 2016-03-15T09:02:31 < ds2> so go to up spec... 2016-03-15T09:02:37 < ds2> got to 2016-03-15T09:03:10 < ds2> what would you use to provide an option for selecting power sources or measuring current? 2016-03-15T09:03:42 < ds2> only saving thing is they make 20A rated 0603 sized shunts 2016-03-15T09:03:56 < ds2> problem is they cost as much as a 0.01ohm 1% 0603 resistor 2016-03-15T09:04:10 < PeterM> ds2 2 pin 0.1" header 2016-03-15T09:04:24 < ds2> If I had room for 0.1.... 2016-03-15T09:04:40 < PeterM> in that case you dont 2016-03-15T09:13:28 < dongs> > pump 2016-03-15T09:13:30 < dongs> yeah i bet. 2016-03-15T09:13:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.251] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T09:18:46 < ds2> what is the end point of the pumping? incandescent? drops >1V? 2016-03-15T09:21:11 < ReadError> crt is a pumper 2016-03-15T09:21:20 < ReadError> tell him how to pump crt 2016-03-15T09:24:16 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TFdomgFjvg 2016-03-15T09:24:19 < ReadError> take you back? 2016-03-15T09:25:49 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T09:25:53 < ReadError> Jeffery Henry3 weeks ago 2016-03-15T09:25:53 < ReadError> l0de's mom wears a hijab 2016-03-15T09:25:54 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-15T09:45:43 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T10:04:54 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-15T10:10:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-15T10:13:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T10:14:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-15T10:14:38 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T10:14:58 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T10:18:43 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T10:20:03 < PaulFertser> Is MQTT the best protocol to get data from remote sensors (that are supposed to wake up once in a while, turn on GSM module, use its integrated IP stack to send/receive something and then went to sleep again)? 2016-03-15T10:20:10 < PaulFertser> karlp: ^ 2016-03-15T10:21:44 < jpa-> it works 2016-03-15T10:22:04 < jpa-> whether it is the best is pretty hard to answer without specific criteria 2016-03-15T10:22:14 < PeterM> ^ 2016-03-15T10:22:45 < jpa-> for one, authenticated mqtt requires multiple round-trips.. so if you aim for very low power consumption you may need something else that can do with 1 UDP upload and 1 UDP ACK 2016-03-15T10:23:04 < PeterM> depending on how much data and regularity SMS can be surprisingly workable 2016-03-15T10:25:01 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:544:7a01:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T10:26:24 < PaulFertser> jpa-: the device is a custom gps+accel tracker, and it's supposed to be able to buffer some data for a while waiting for GSM coverage to appear and also its wakeup rate should be controllable by the central management. 2016-03-15T10:27:13 < PeterM> for that case, MQTT seems liek a good candidate 2016-03-15T10:27:13 < PaulFertser> Very low power consumption is not critical, but the device can't be always-on, that's for sure. 2016-03-15T10:30:38 < jpa-> MQTT is somewhat annoying in that it does not have nice way to timestamp stuff on the server side 2016-03-15T10:33:54 < PaulFertser> Hm, seems kinda silly. But I plan to run a custom app to put all the data into an sqlite database on server itself anyway, so I can do timestamping there. 2016-03-15T10:34:15 < PaulFertser> But does it seem like MQTT is fully appropriate otherwise? 2016-03-15T10:34:33 < jpa-> well, what benefit will mqtt offer over just a simple tcp server? 2016-03-15T10:35:28 < jpa-> if you do timestamping etc. on the receiver side, you lose the mqtt proxy etc. ability to make more funnier infrastructure 2016-03-15T10:35:43 < jpa-> (assuming you rely on stuff being delivered relatively fast) 2016-03-15T10:44:10 < PaulFertser> Well, I was thinking about simple tcp server and actually PoC is implemented that way. But I wanted to evaluate other possibilities too. 2016-03-15T10:50:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-15T10:51:02 < jpa-> before adding extra layers you should consider what extra benefit you want :) 2016-03-15T10:57:07 < PaulFertser> Usually I want to write less code and just use something that's already known to work nicely. 2016-03-15T10:57:59 < PaulFertser> I wonder what the microcontroller guy (who implements firmware for said tracker) says if I say he must use MQTT :) 2016-03-15T10:58:46 < PaulFertser> Currently he wants to use some ad-hoc binary protocol instead. 2016-03-15T11:02:57 < jpa-> i'm biased, but i would say to use json or protobuf so that you can extend it later 2016-03-15T11:03:29 < jpa-> mqtt mostly solves aggregation and many-sources-many-consumers -situations 2016-03-15T11:06:18 < PaulFertser> Thanks to your nanopb using protobuf was a pleasant experience (if it was not for the ignorant assholes that designed a higher level protocol on top of protobuf that I was required to implement) 2016-03-15T11:07:02 < jpa-> classic 2016-03-15T11:07:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T11:07:18 < jpa-> at the end you have tens of layers that do nothing useful :) 2016-03-15T11:08:28 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T11:08:37 < PaulFertser> crt: wrap your penis in GSM specs. There's lots of useless layers there, just what you need. 2016-03-15T11:17:26 < PaulFertser> I'm actually amazed there're people (hello, Harald) who enjoy digging all those insane telephony-inspired awfully-documented layers. 2016-03-15T11:18:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T11:43:50 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T11:44:44 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-15T11:44:44 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2016-03-15T11:45:03 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-15T11:45:49 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T11:58:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.128] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T12:05:34 < karlp> jpa-: what do you mean about authenticated mqtt requires multiple round trips? 2016-03-15T12:07:46 < karlp> but yeah, if you're going to connect, publish, disconnect go to sleep, you're losing a lot of the benefits of mqtt 2016-03-15T12:08:01 < karlp> might as well just use http post at thaat point. 2016-03-15T12:08:11 < karlp> coap might even bemore useful. 2016-03-15T12:08:21 < jpa-> hmm yeah, needs roundtrips always in fact 2016-03-15T12:08:29 < dongs> zyp: ^ blogged 2016-03-15T12:08:37 < jpa-> somehow i was remembering that connect wasn't necessary except for auth, but seems i was wrong 2016-03-15T12:09:17 < jpa-> and that is after already getting the tcp connection up 2016-03-15T12:09:53 < dongs> windowsupdate at 98% 2016-03-15T12:09:58 < jpa-> so if it is cheap-ass 2.5G with 500ms latency, that can easily mean 2+ seconds extra of keeping the modem on 2016-03-15T12:10:03 < dongs> shit's been crawling since this morning 2016-03-15T12:10:37 < karlp> I'm not really interested in supporting or even planning that sort of environment. 2016-03-15T12:10:58 < karlp> there's some decent data on battery usage for mqtt vs http vs something I've forgotten from some google io presentation 2016-03-15T12:11:09 < karlp> if you want to do raw embedded with gsm, have fun, you're on your own. 2016-03-15T12:14:09 < zyp> dongs, nice 2016-03-15T12:20:13 < PaulFertser> Thanks everybody for the suggestions! 2016-03-15T12:21:39 < jpa-> karlp: if i were to use mqtt, would i then get free karlp support? ;) 2016-03-15T12:33:27 < dongs> yes\ 2016-03-15T12:33:56 < karlp> http://stephendnicholas.com/posts/power-profiling-mqtt-vs-https is what I was thinking of at least. 2016-03-15T12:34:07 < karlp> jpa-: some, sure... :) 2016-03-15T12:34:11 < karlp> #mqtt is nice too. 2016-03-15T12:34:19 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-15T12:34:34 < karlp> re the timestamping, you're right, but that's an application problem anyway :) 2016-03-15T12:35:04 < karlp> we timestamp on the producer of the message, because we use mqtt's queueing to do offline buffering, so timestamping on a remote database writing subscriber is not helpful. 2016-03-15T12:35:21 < jpa-> in one of my hacks, i "solved" it by having a server post the timestamp to a topic every few seconds, so the client can synchronize its clock :P 2016-03-15T12:35:36 < karlp> yeah, you woulnd't be the first to do a pseudo ntp over mqtt :) 2016-03-15T12:35:41 < karlp> we just use ntp :) 2016-03-15T12:36:36 < karlp> but we're not using mqtt on the "deep" embedded portions, just for IPC on our gateway, and for gateway<->cloud communications. 2016-03-15T12:37:17 < karlp> it's been super awesome to have pub/sub on the gatway, think up a new use for the data? just subscribe and go! 2016-03-15T12:37:46 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-15T12:37:49 < jpa-> that's the best part 2016-03-15T12:37:57 < karlp> want to send the data to third party X,Y,Z? no need to write plugins or make it all fit into one framework, just make a new simple tiny service that just does that. 2016-03-15T12:38:03 < artag> have I wandered into #mqtt ? :) 2016-03-15T12:38:25 < karlp> no, #mqtt is window 3, this is window 4 ;) 2016-03-15T12:38:29 < artag> you should, it's good 2016-03-15T12:38:45 < karlp> artag: I don't see you in #mqtt? ;) 2016-03-15T12:40:04 < artag> I was, think I fell off last time I rebooted 2016-03-15T12:43:48 < dongs> a restart has been scheduled 2016-03-15T12:48:17 < trepidacious> dongs: So the weird asynchronous sync signal thing seems to work. 2016-03-15T12:50:20 < dongs> coo 2016-03-15T12:55:13 < dongs> time to reboot 2016-03-15T13:08:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T13:08:28 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T13:35:13 < dongs> ? 2016-03-15T13:35:18 < dongs> i was back 2 minutes later 2016-03-15T13:35:38 < dongs> old 2016-03-15T13:39:29 -!- krakapwa [~krakapwa@xvm-190-204.dc0.ghst.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-15T13:41:17 -!- krakapwa [~krakapwa@xvm-190-204.dc0.ghst.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T13:47:07 -!- krakapwa [~krakapwa@xvm-190-204.dc0.ghst.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-15T13:48:36 < kakimir> that link describes serious issues of free time 2016-03-15T13:48:53 < kakimir> hello 2016-03-15T13:49:04 < kakimir> and bbl coffee time> 2016-03-15T14:02:53 < MightyPork> any tips what to look for if my malloc() never fails? 2016-03-15T14:02:58 < MightyPork> gcc w/ newlib 2016-03-15T14:05:18 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T14:18:24 < dongs> shit 2016-03-15T14:20:17 < zyp> MightyPork, is it supposed to fail? 2016-03-15T14:20:38 < MightyPork> fail as in return NULL, not by a hardfault 2016-03-15T14:21:10 < zyp> newlib malloc allocates memory from sbrk, if sbrk never fails, malloc will never fail either 2016-03-15T14:22:29 < MightyPork> hmm cool. so time to scavenge better sbrk from somewhere 2016-03-15T14:24:11 < MightyPork> amazing, store sbrk from the syscalls file in a SW4 project and it's working 2016-03-15T14:24:14 < MightyPork> *stole 2016-03-15T14:24:34 < zyp> congratulations on getting failing working 2016-03-15T14:25:43 < MightyPork> ... now it froze again, but at least it's not a hardfault, just my own spaghetti 2016-03-15T14:37:44 < dongs> why does youir shitty compiler even need sbrk 2016-03-15T14:37:53 < dongs> i use keil and I never had to write retarded stubz for shit 2016-03-15T14:38:59 < Tectu> cuz they do it for you 2016-03-15T14:47:57 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T14:51:17 < dongs> not sure how thats a problem 2016-03-15T14:54:10 < MightyPork> think the main problem is newlib sux, but there's nothing good to replace it afaik 2016-03-15T14:59:55 < dongs> opensource, shareware code 2016-03-15T15:00:00 < dongs> what the fucking fuck is a shareware coded 2016-03-15T15:03:23 < dongs> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35808627 2016-03-15T15:03:25 < dongs> RIP englishman 2016-03-15T15:03:36 < dongs> "An Uber driver who is accused of killing six people in the US state of Michigan has told police that the Uber app took over his "mind and body", setting off his shooting spree." 2016-03-15T15:05:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/expert-needed/ 2016-03-15T15:05:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-65.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T15:08:03 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 1.0.1"] 2016-03-15T15:11:36 -!- bilboquet_ [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 2016-03-15T15:21:13 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-15T15:21:21 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T15:30:36 < qyx> regarding the lifepo4 cells, I have written to some ATP china factory, according to alibaba they are doing low quantity orders too 2016-03-15T15:32:38 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-15T15:33:16 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ffhcbkrvfyndrcnj] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T15:38:18 -!- Gunirus [sid20073@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnupiznnoitejzpm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-15T15:39:46 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T15:57:53 < englishman> ATMEL is a high-performance, 16-bit microcontroller, cryptographic accelerator based on the secure AVR. Single clock cycle. The cryptographic accelerator fast encryption and authentication functions. 2016-03-15T15:58:56 < dongs> cool indiegogo bro 2016-03-15T15:59:00 < dongs> but how do you cloud with that? 2016-03-15T15:59:12 < englishman> i dono, ask the world's sexiest computer hacker 2016-03-15T16:03:38 < qyx> thats wh 2016-03-15T16:03:40 < qyx> o 2016-03-15T16:16:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-15T16:24:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-65.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-15T16:25:59 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T16:26:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-15T16:28:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-65.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T16:33:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-65.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-15T16:42:58 < kakimir> guys does 107 need VBAT supplied whenever VDD is present? 2016-03-15T16:43:03 < dongs> no 2016-03-15T16:43:07 < kakimir> there seems to be a switch 2016-03-15T16:43:07 < dongs> none of stm32 does 2016-03-15T16:43:09 -!- hjf_ [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-15T16:43:12 < dongs> tehre is. 2016-03-15T16:43:16 < kakimir> nice 2016-03-15T16:43:33 < kakimir> something sensible happening 2016-03-15T16:43:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.64] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T16:44:51 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T16:54:20 < kakimir> http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/080/417/223/1250579270766_hz_myalibaba_web6_16454.jpg anyone know this connector type? 2016-03-15T16:54:29 < kakimir> is it some jst too? 2016-03-15T16:56:39 < dongs> its the china "xh1.25" 2016-03-15T16:57:05 < dongs> clone of molex 53047 2016-03-15T16:58:05 < kakimir> molex picoblade? 2016-03-15T16:59:03 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-15T16:59:20 < dongs> i think so 2016-03-15T16:59:42 < dongs> china has them cloend good 2016-03-15T16:59:54 < kakimir> you surelly know your connectors 2016-03-15T17:03:48 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T17:04:21 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:07:34 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:12:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-15T17:12:38 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-15T17:14:22 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-15T17:19:14 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:24:54 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:27:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:30:01 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-15T17:35:51 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-03-15T17:36:01 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:37:07 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T17:37:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T18:15:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.109.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T18:21:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T18:52:04 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@port-53878.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:03:29 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-15T19:03:37 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T19:04:21 < karlp> heh, something for r2commie _and_ dongs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzEHItrTMHM 2016-03-15T19:04:26 < karlp> only 50k jpy! 2016-03-15T19:09:07 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:10:01 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-15T19:11:16 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:16:15 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-15T19:16:57 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:17:54 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-15T19:19:23 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:28:02 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-15T19:29:38 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:29:40 < zyp> haha 2016-03-15T19:31:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:35:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-15T19:40:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T19:40:44 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-15T19:42:59 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-15T19:47:52 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:18:25 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ffhcbkrvfyndrcnj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-15T20:24:31 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:24:46 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-15T20:25:01 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:32:41 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:48:29 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:52:08 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:53:21 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T20:58:12 < lorenzo> do you know if low end STM32s have something like HCS08 automatic compare? 2016-03-15T20:58:50 < lorenzo> that is, an interrupt which fires when the free-running ADC samples a value above or below a certain threshold 2016-03-15T20:59:24 < Steffanx> l0/l1 ? 2016-03-15T20:59:51 < lorenzo> even f0/f1 2016-03-15T21:04:59 < Sync_> you can have adc windowing 2016-03-15T21:05:12 < Sync_> err watchdog 2016-03-15T21:05:44 < lorenzo> ah, analog watchdog? 2016-03-15T21:06:33 < lorenzo> yep, that seems to be the magic keyword :-) 2016-03-15T21:06:43 < lorenzo> it's there in stm32f10xxx, thanks Sync_ 2016-03-15T21:07:22 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-15T21:09:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.109.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-15T21:27:59 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-15T21:33:34 < Steffanx> but you dont want super fancy low poweR? 2016-03-15T21:37:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-15T21:40:05 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T21:44:27 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T21:45:00 < ohsix> PaulFertser: specification anthroplogists ;D (re: layers/agglomeration in gsm) 2016-03-15T22:03:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-139.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T22:12:09 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T22:12:30 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T22:14:10 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T22:37:19 < Laurenceb_> calling windoze programmers 2016-03-15T22:37:33 < Laurenceb_> is there a way to detect usb-serial devices and connect to the right comm port? 2016-03-15T22:37:47 < Laurenceb_> say I want to connect to a cp2102 device 2016-03-15T22:37:59 < Laurenceb_> this is possible on linux using the device id 2016-03-15T22:38:07 < ohsix> not really, or windows would already do it and give you the same com port number 2016-03-15T22:38:39 < ohsix> i don't think windows uses bus topology to 'name' devices that have an invalid serial or the like 2016-03-15T22:39:14 < Laurenceb_> I know a similar system is possible in labview 2016-03-15T22:39:27 < Laurenceb_> so you can always connect to the correct comm port 2016-03-15T22:40:40 < Steffanx> prefered language? 2016-03-15T22:40:48 < Steffanx> i believe .net has some stuff for it. 2016-03-15T22:40:48 < Laurenceb_> qt / c++ / c 2016-03-15T22:40:51 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-15T22:41:13 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying to write a qt gui, but .net examples would be informative 2016-03-15T22:41:17 < ohsix> you can do it if you know you're looking for a particular adapter or assume pid/vid 2016-03-15T22:41:24 < Laurenceb_> ah ok 2016-03-15T22:41:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah I could have a loadable file with the pid/vid combos 2016-03-15T22:41:58 < ohsix> you usually can't tho cuz they're faked or worse 2016-03-15T22:42:18 < Laurenceb_> well its cp2102 so it should be legit 2016-03-15T22:42:27 < Laurenceb_> I'm using the ST usb eval kit dongle 2016-03-15T22:43:07 < Laurenceb_> for SP1ML 2016-03-15T22:43:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-15T22:45:03 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yzahkmicwuesebry] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T22:45:46 < Steffanx> cant QtSerialPort do this btw Laurenceb_? 2016-03-15T22:46:47 < mitrax> Laurencb_: look at the setupapi i.e SetupDiEnumDeviceInterfaces() / SetupDiGetDeviceInterfaceDetail() and the like 2016-03-15T22:46:47 < Steffanx> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qserialportinfo.html productid, vendor id.. not sure if that's usb stuff, but i would be surprised if it isn't 2016-03-15T22:48:45 < mitrax> LaurenceB: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Projects/SEP/0607/network/Code/WPS/cpp/middleman/EnumSerial.cpp 2016-03-15T22:49:30 < Steffanx> so many solutions, go pick the one that works for oyu Laurenceb_ :D 2016-03-15T22:49:37 < Laurenceb_> ok thanks 2016-03-15T22:49:54 < Laurenceb_> but I only see a way that works if i first open the port 2016-03-15T22:50:18 < mitrax> LaurenceB: EnumPortsWdm() in the middle of the file you don't need to open the port 2016-03-15T22:50:44 < mitrax> LaurenceB: the other functions are legacy stuff for NT4.0 / win9x 2016-03-15T22:50:50 < ohsix> you could just assume there's only one like most horrible people do \m/ or have a dropdown for people to guess, like less horrible people do, but still very bad 2016-03-15T22:50:52 < Steffanx> or availablePorts from qtserialport :P 2016-03-15T22:51:12 < Steffanx> but i never tried that so not sure if it always works. 2016-03-15T22:52:32 < ohsix> chrome has a serial api that can be used from extensions, if you haven't started yet and you want portability or whatever you might do with one of those 2016-03-15T22:52:59 < Steffanx> chrome extension, yay 2016-03-15T22:53:24 < ohsix> oh wait they killed 32bit version on linux, but qt still works there :p 2016-03-15T22:53:46 < Thorn> Laurenceb_: my code from 3 years ago (qt 5.2), you could add filtering etc. http://paste.ofcode.org/3a6VpGiTnJwRJUbYzDW5d2Y 2016-03-15T22:53:47 < Steffanx> but Laurenceb_ wanted windows 2016-03-15T22:53:52 < Laurenceb_> thanks 2016-03-15T22:53:55 < Laurenceb_> ok I think i got it 2016-03-15T22:54:01 < Laurenceb_> it can be done in qt 2016-03-15T22:54:07 < Laurenceb_> 1) find available ports 2016-03-15T22:54:12 < ohsix> Steffanx: yea i forgot 2016-03-15T22:54:16 < Steffanx> Such open sores. 2016-03-15T22:54:22 < Laurenceb_> 2) loop through getting the info (don't need to open) 2016-03-15T22:54:37 < Laurenceb_> 3) check for hasProductIdentifier 2016-03-15T22:54:49 < Laurenceb_> 4) if it has then check all details to match 2016-03-15T22:54:54 < Laurenceb_> 5) connect :P 2016-03-15T22:55:19 < Laurenceb_> that should be cross platform too 2016-03-15T22:55:34 < Steffanx> PROgrammer. 2016-03-15T22:55:39 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-15T22:55:42 < ohsix> different information is available on each tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrget 2016-03-15T22:55:54 < ohsix> one of the reasons qt is great, practically shitty stuff you find out later 2016-03-15T22:56:18 < ohsix> you can probably do vid/pid matching lots of places, but not 'all details' 2016-03-15T22:57:12 < Thorn> (and QSerialPortInfo::vendorIdentifier() / productIdentifier() are usb vid/pid iirc) 2016-03-15T22:57:37 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-15T22:57:47 < Laurenceb_> thanks for the code Thorn 2016-03-15T22:57:58 < Laurenceb_> I still hate c++ :-/ 2016-03-15T22:58:07 < ohsix> hurr can't configure timeouts 2016-03-15T22:58:28 < Laurenceb_> this stuff makes my head hurt, microcontrollers ftw 2016-03-15T22:58:41 < Laurenceb_> so lines 44 to 46 connect to... something? 2016-03-15T22:58:58 < Laurenceb_> also, is any of this stuff configured in the .ui file? 2016-03-15T22:59:21 < ohsix> once you get usb you're dealing with this type of stuff no matter what it is, might not have to read msdn tho 2016-03-15T22:59:45 < Laurenceb_> are onAccepted and onRejected members of the PortSelectDialog class? 2016-03-15T22:59:46 < Steffanx> Better do some Qt basics Laurenceb_ 2016-03-15T22:59:50 < Laurenceb_> lol too many questions 2016-03-15T22:59:54 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-15T23:00:02 < Laurenceb_> need this finished in 2 weeks lol 2016-03-15T23:00:04 < Laurenceb_> :-S 2016-03-15T23:00:13 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T23:00:21 < Thorn> that's strictly gui stuff. I wasn't using .ui files then 2016-03-15T23:00:28 < Laurenceb_> ah ok 2016-03-15T23:00:35 < Thorn> I can post complete .cc and .h if you want 2016-03-15T23:00:36 < Laurenceb_> so I can avoid ui files completely? 2016-03-15T23:00:41 < Thorn> sure 2016-03-15T23:00:49 < Laurenceb_> oh that simplifies it :D 2016-03-15T23:00:54 < Thorn> I found the qt designer a major pita 2016-03-15T23:01:19 < Steffanx> Time to go drag'n'drop .net programming 2016-03-15T23:01:26 < Laurenceb_> yeah me too.. well I never did any qt before last night lol 2016-03-15T23:02:14 < Laurenceb_> Thorn: yeah the Port connect stuff would be very helpful if you could post it, thanks 2016-03-15T23:02:33 < Laurenceb_> I'm copypastered a scrolling graph demo, and it makes sense so far.. 2016-03-15T23:03:12 < Laurenceb_> but there is virtually no interprocess communication in the demo, signals and connect are the things that are confusing me at the moment 2016-03-15T23:03:58 < Laurenceb_> c++ just seems overdesigned to me :P 2016-03-15T23:04:11 < Laurenceb_> never tried to do anything complex in c++ before 2016-03-15T23:04:28 < ohsix> https://github.com/qtproject/qtserialport/blob/dev/src/serialport/qserialportinfo_win.cpp 2016-03-15T23:04:29 < Thorn> https://gist.github.com/pthorn/63ae8e3bfcf788a956f9 2016-03-15T23:05:14 < ohsix> heh @ special case for ftdi 2016-03-15T23:05:46 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-15T23:05:47 < Laurenceb_> thanks 2016-03-15T23:06:08 < Laurenceb_> heh luckily I avoid ftdi like the plague 2016-03-15T23:06:26 < Laurenceb_> do you always need a wrapper to build c functions into c++ projects? 2016-03-15T23:06:39 < Laurenceb_> or is that for when you build c++ into c project? 2016-03-15T23:06:42 < ohsix> yea but the compiler will do that for you 2016-03-15T23:07:06 < Laurenceb_> right 2016-03-15T23:07:14 < ohsix> er do you mean for interoperation or for calling c/c++ code; the headers will have extern "C" or whatever in them 2016-03-15T23:07:34 < Laurenceb_> yeah I remember now.. its been a while lol 2016-03-15T23:08:19 < Laurenceb_> hopefully I can copypaster microcontroller network and packetisation code 2016-03-15T23:09:37 < Laurenceb_> I'm still confused about how QT signals allow interprocess communication 2016-03-15T23:09:57 < Laurenceb_> maybe I'll read Thorns code before asking tho lol 2016-03-15T23:10:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T23:11:12 < ohsix> normally i'm pretty down on qt, but this serial port code is kind of ok 2016-03-15T23:11:36 < ohsix> it's a thing that doesn't need to be wrapped 50 times though, an exceptional situation ;D 2016-03-15T23:12:06 < Laurenceb_> ok so line 70, that is then connected to some code that reads the data? 2016-03-15T23:12:36 < Laurenceb_> oh lower down the page lol 2016-03-15T23:15:09 < ohsix> checking out the linux/'unix' code, if it's built without udev on linux it will have nothing but the device path in the information, if it's on freebsd/qnx it will have nothing but the device path 2016-03-15T23:15:15 < ohsix> everything else is from udev 2016-03-15T23:15:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-15T23:19:16 < Laurenceb_> ok so the emit openDevice(ports.at(checked_id).portName()); 2016-03-15T23:19:22 < Laurenceb_> that connects to something ? 2016-03-15T23:21:03 < Laurenceb_> oh port is a private variable in serialport.h, so that emit doesnt actually have to be used? 2016-03-15T23:21:19 < Laurenceb_> as the port is connected there 2016-03-15T23:22:53 < Thorn> it is connected to SerialPort::open() through some reconnection logic 2016-03-15T23:23:00 < Laurenceb_> isnt this effectively doing interprocess comms using a global struct? 2016-03-15T23:23:35 < Laurenceb_> or doesnt that matter due to the way qt handles stuff behind the scenes? 2016-03-15T23:23:47 < Thorn> or rather port->setName(); port->open(); 2016-03-15T23:24:16 < Thorn> why interprocess? it's all in the same process (even the same thread) 2016-03-15T23:24:29 < Laurenceb_> hmm ok 2016-03-15T23:24:37 < Thorn> you can use signals/slots across threads though 2016-03-15T23:24:51 < Laurenceb_> ok so say I had a GUI redraw running on a timer at 15hz or whatever 2016-03-15T23:25:11 < Laurenceb_> that could just read from the buffer? 2016-03-15T23:26:11 < Laurenceb_> if I made buffer public in serialport.h ? 2016-03-15T23:30:15 < Thorn> your buffer read shouldn't be preempted by a write. it's like async javascript. there's an event loop behind the scenes 2016-03-15T23:30:32 < Thorn> that's how I understand it 2016-03-15T23:32:21 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-15T23:32:25 < Laurenceb_> thanks for the help 2016-03-15T23:34:19 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ always turns into such a nice guy when he needs help. 2016-03-15T23:34:35 < Steffanx> Can't you always be in need of help Laurenceb_ ? :P 2016-03-15T23:36:43 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-15T23:38:06 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-15T23:50:38 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aeb1e.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-15T23:52:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-15T23:54:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Wed Mar 16 2016 2016-03-16T00:03:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-139.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-16T00:24:30 < aandrew> does anyone have an Altium library part for mouse bites (for panelization) -- I think this is probably the easiest way to place them where needed 2016-03-16T00:25:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T00:29:16 < aandrew> they are? maybe I just don't know how to drive it then. 2016-03-16T00:29:17 < aandrew> I know how to create a panel and I can make the v-cuts and whatnot by drawing lines on the panel board design 2016-03-16T00:29:45 < aandrew> pumpin? 2016-03-16T00:29:51 < aandrew> lol ok 2016-03-16T00:29:55 < ohsix> stealing gas 2016-03-16T00:30:33 < aandrew> haha. sounds like songs 2016-03-16T00:30:47 < aandrew> dongs this fucking autocorrect piece of shit phone 2016-03-16T00:31:08 < ohsix> you don't want to be pumping, or be a pumper 2016-03-16T00:31:17 < aandrew> I'm competent but don't know some of the edge cases 2016-03-16T00:32:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T00:33:08 < kakimir> how to find cable for headphones? 2016-03-16T00:33:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T00:33:33 < kakimir> I liked original rubbery one 2016-03-16T00:33:53 < kakimir> smooth texture to it 2016-03-16T00:35:13 < kakimir> also I need a plug 2016-03-16T00:35:26 < kakimir> right angle 2016-03-16T00:35:40 < kakimir> good one 2016-03-16T00:36:05 < kakimir> I see that wgen i get home 2016-03-16T00:36:26 < ohsix> crt: poking dead horses 2016-03-16T00:37:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-16T00:39:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T00:40:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T00:41:09 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@port-53878.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-16T00:42:59 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-16T00:48:25 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yzahkmicwuesebry] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-16T00:54:48 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-16T00:57:14 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: look for mogami 2016-03-16T00:57:21 < Laurenceb_> they make nice signal cables 2016-03-16T01:04:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T01:05:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T01:07:24 < ohsix> huh i thought canare was spelled differentl 2016-03-16T01:07:35 < ohsix> i have a few meters of sillyconed from them, it's nice 2016-03-16T01:08:15 < Laurenceb_> I use mogami ultraflex for work stuff 2016-03-16T01:08:39 < ohsix> i don't know if i'd buy it if i didn't already have it; don't really need that kind of cable for anything, but it is nice 2016-03-16T01:08:55 < ohsix> like if you're doing gigs and moving equipment it's essential tho 2016-03-16T01:08:59 < Sync_> looks hipster 2016-03-16T01:09:23 < ohsix> resisting sharp bend angles makes them easy to pack 2016-03-16T01:09:31 < ohsix> also makes them last longer and shiz 2016-03-16T01:12:22 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-03-16T01:12:35 < Laurenceb_> i dont do audiophool 2016-03-16T01:17:15 < ohsix> maybe they only think they do and aren't measuring it 2016-03-16T01:17:35 < ohsix> that link goes to an 'error communicating with the network' page right now 2016-03-16T01:19:37 < kakimir> what you think about neutrik connectors? 2016-03-16T01:21:38 < kakimir> are you like musician too? 2016-03-16T01:21:58 < kakimir> or audio enthusiast? 2016-03-16T01:21:58 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T01:22:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T01:29:00 < kakimir> openoffice 2016-03-16T01:29:13 < mitrax> excel 2016-03-16T01:30:02 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HPY-3-5mm-Male-to-Male-90-Degree-Angle-Audio-Jack-AUX-Connector-Plug-Cable-2M-/161995391595 I think my reference headphones need some quality 2016-03-16T01:30:07 < karlp> libreoffice it seems, was openoffice, just whatever came on my desktop 2016-03-16T01:31:02 < ohsix> gnumeric / google docs :< 2016-03-16T01:31:20 < ohsix> they all do the same stuff, it's just a matter of who you might have to share files with 2016-03-16T01:31:27 < kakimir> why would you use other formats than office 97 2016-03-16T01:32:03 < Getty> lol 2016-03-16T01:32:32 < kakimir> pps or so 2016-03-16T01:32:58 < kakimir> *.xls or so 2016-03-16T01:33:14 < kakimir> not libre 2016-03-16T01:33:54 < kakimir> just change the default formats all to 97 office 2016-03-16T01:34:10 < kakimir> .doc .xls .ppt 2016-03-16T01:35:01 < kakimir> I'm not recommending.. it works 2016-03-16T01:35:44 < ohsix> there's always 'sc' 2016-03-16T01:36:22 < ohsix> you have some cells and you have some other cells whos value is based on some other cells; only when you get into extremely marginal junk or interchange problems does it begin to matter 2016-03-16T01:36:44 < ohsix> or if you expect to do ole/structured storage embedding (pictures in spreadsheet cells) 2016-03-16T01:37:08 < ohsix> for the actual grunt of the spreadsheet-ing they all do the same thing if it's called a spreadsheet ;D 2016-03-16T01:38:58 < kakimir> it freezes hard 2016-03-16T01:39:05 < kakimir> but so does ms office 2016-03-16T01:39:16 < kakimir> when you throw thousands of points in 2016-03-16T01:39:32 < kakimir> it's doing stupid things hard way that is why 2016-03-16T01:40:45 < ohsix> isn't it all kind of direct manipulation of a stylus and feed or whatever, it's not like a raster print where you can do computational geometry junk to speed it up 2016-03-16T01:41:37 < ohsix> will have to make a note to look at what the api is 2016-03-16T01:41:47 < ohsix> shruggin', it's going to be oldschool 2016-03-16T01:42:20 < ohsix> it might by some preprocessor but i don't know what the apis look like that the applications have to use 2016-03-16T01:43:37 < kakimir> I wonder if it's possible to make a motor that has floating rotor 2016-03-16T01:43:44 < kakimir> without mechanical contact 2016-03-16T01:43:51 < ohsix> looks like hpgl 2016-03-16T01:43:51 < artag> yes, see air bearings 2016-03-16T01:44:17 < kakimir> horrible of course 2016-03-16T01:44:23 < ohsix> ben kraznow posted a video recently on piezo motors where the work object is the rotor 2016-03-16T01:44:23 < kakimir> dont get your hopes up 2016-03-16T01:44:45 < kakimir> ohsix: it's based on mechanical contact 2016-03-16T01:45:06 < kakimir> I think of something floating in vacuum 2016-03-16T01:45:10 < ohsix> right 2016-03-16T01:45:25 < kakimir> have 2stators? 2016-03-16T01:45:26 < artag> also magnetic-bearing fans 2016-03-16T01:45:39 < kakimir> to control rotation in other axis 2016-03-16T01:45:53 < ohsix> there's fluid contact in the bearings in harddrives but they are essentially 'no mechanical contact', it's just very viscous ;D 2016-03-16T01:45:58 < kakimir> and position 2016-03-16T01:46:17 < ohsix> R2COM: HPGL is like pen up pen down, select pen, draw a circle 2016-03-16T01:46:24 < kakimir> ohsix: is there pins? 2016-03-16T01:46:26 < kakimir> or balls? 2016-03-16T01:47:35 < ohsix> kakimir: neither, the oil is 'pumped around' and provides even pressure around the entire bearing to support whatever is connected to it 2016-03-16T01:47:57 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T01:48:18 < ohsix> erh hm i thought i could cite a patent from when i was looking at this last, can't find it so nevermind 2016-03-16T01:49:47 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T01:50:31 < ohsix> there was a cone type fluid dynamic bearing that didn't need a thrust bearing to keep it in place 2016-03-16T01:50:42 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-16T01:51:25 < ohsix> ahh cone was the magic word, http://www.google.com/patents/US6664687 also when they seize they seize hard :] fdb failure took out some seagates i had 2016-03-16T01:52:20 < kakimir> I just ordered chinese copper foil 2016-03-16T01:52:50 < kakimir> ? 2016-03-16T01:53:01 < ohsix> ya they both seized within 24 power on hours of eachother 2016-03-16T01:53:26 < kakimir> crt: then sorry as seller refunds 2016-03-16T01:53:30 < kakimir> *Ass 2016-03-16T01:54:56 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/371515005616 maybe it is that expensive 2016-03-16T01:55:03 < kakimir> it's the cheapest I found 2016-03-16T01:55:20 < kakimir> I think that amount will weight like 20grams 2016-03-16T01:55:50 < kakimir> it's good price for copper 2016-03-16T01:56:28 < ohsix> oh hurr you weren't responding to me i am dumb 2016-03-16T01:57:03 < ohsix> wouldn't copper coated aluminum work harden/fail during sheeting if they rolled it up 2016-03-16T01:57:34 < kakimir> why would they do that 2016-03-16T01:57:57 < ohsix> i don't think they would 2016-03-16T02:00:27 < kakimir> wow that foil weights a tonne 2016-03-16T02:00:36 < kakimir> 89grams 2016-03-16T02:00:49 < kakimir> can it be or did I fail 2016-03-16T02:05:29 < ohsix> yes, but so does plplot and other plotting programs 2016-03-16T02:05:35 < Sync_> use R 2016-03-16T02:05:40 < Sync_> for maximum aidscancer 2016-03-16T02:06:29 < ohsix> R's gui stuff or matlab would 2016-03-16T02:06:37 < ohsix> wolfram/mathematica can 2016-03-16T02:07:05 < artag> gnuplot will do that, though the zooming is a bit oldfashioned 2016-03-16T02:07:49 < artag> it doesn't do calculatuions at all afair, excpet perhaps for scaling 2016-03-16T02:08:35 < artag> it doesn't do live plots though. i think pyplot does 2016-03-16T02:08:35 < ohsix> plplot does interactive graphs 2016-03-16T02:09:41 < artag> R2COM: i mean gnuplot's implementation of zooming is outdated. something like + to zoom in, no panning, zoom right out. No nice drag-scrolling or wheelmouse stuff 2016-03-16T02:11:15 < artag> i've never found anything as good as the stuff I used at $previousjob but that was very proprietary 2016-03-16T02:12:01 < artag> it was written inhouse for a specific application and sold as part of a system for k$ 2016-03-16T02:12:03 < ohsix> the only time i've actually needed to zoom things was on an actual calculator 2016-03-16T02:12:13 < ohsix> for reporting i usually already know all of the parameters 2016-03-16T02:12:47 < artag> but i'd really like to be able to write a stream of data out of some software and zoom around it like a live oscilloscope 2016-03-16T02:13:10 < artag> I hope sigrok will do that one day but it's not there yet 2016-03-16T02:13:34 < artag> there really ought to be some javascript libs that do it 2016-03-16T02:20:07 < artag> http://www.cosworth.com/products/racing-electronics/software/toolbox/ 2016-03-16T02:20:28 < artag> it does seem to be for sale without an electronics system but no mention of price 2016-03-16T02:22:12 < ohsix> what's sigrok do, afair pulseview or whatever would let you manually trigger; but you'd still be able to get the data realtime if you had a device that was free running and could display it how you like 2016-03-16T02:22:39 < ohsix> or do you mean you hope they have a useful ui some day 2016-03-16T02:23:03 < artag> yeah, pulseview is a bit limited with analog data 2016-03-16T02:23:21 < Laurenceb_> Consejos para ser Cuckold 2016-03-16T02:23:46 < ohsix> yea it is 2016-03-16T02:24:04 < artag> it's really only just starting to be added, and the digital stuff isn't as smooth as saleae 2016-03-16T02:24:22 < ohsix> considering how many cheap scopes and clones and open source, aaaand the people that use the devices and their interaction familiarity; why there isn't some ok to decent software scopes 2016-03-16T02:24:46 < ohsix> someone needs to make a thing that has a few optical encoders and buttons on it i guess, so you can interact with it properly :p 2016-03-16T02:24:48 < artag> because every man and his dog does some crap windows program 2016-03-16T02:24:59 < artag> erinvienting over and over again 2016-03-16T02:25:04 < artag> reinventing 2016-03-16T02:25:10 < ohsix> yup 2016-03-16T02:25:25 < ohsix> i'm surprised people can even sell usb 'scopes' and stuff given what the software is 2016-03-16T02:25:55 < artag> that's why sigrok has promise, it ought to let people concentrate on the differencs rather than the common stuff 2016-03-16T02:26:14 < artag> but people are idiots and do closed-source instead 2016-03-16T02:26:38 < ohsix> it's still really useful without anything resembling test equimpent; like comedi was 2016-03-16T02:27:03 < ohsix> you might have to write a program to use the data but at least you can get it from a handful of sources without als owriting that part 2016-03-16T02:27:20 < artag> most of the usb scope hardware is rubbish too, only usb3 has anything near the bandwidth so there's nothing really mature 2016-03-16T02:27:29 < artag> picoscope are probably the best 2016-03-16T02:27:43 < ohsix> 30MB/s is nothing to sniff at 2016-03-16T02:27:49 < ohsix> but yea 2016-03-16T02:28:09 < artag> their software is free so if it can import csv is might be worth a try 2016-03-16T02:28:35 < kakimir> Laurenceb found https://imgur.com/5eyQSGu 2016-03-16T02:29:22 < ohsix> the usb things that are most oscilloscope like all have triggering and stuff in the module and you just interact with it, it's a scope; the salae things and data acquisition parts might have a buffer but you need to move it to see if it is relevant 2016-03-16T02:31:09 < kakimir> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdhtMvKWIAADjWt?format=pjpg&name=large 2016-03-16T02:31:33 < artag> yes, but if it's all inside the usb scope you have to shuffle it out to display it so it's still slow and jumpy 2016-03-16T02:32:17 < artag> at least the saleae has the acquistion in memory, provided it can actually acquire fast enough for you 2016-03-16T02:33:52 < artag> increasing usb speeds increase the bandwidth of streaming capture and the offload speed of static capture so eventually they'll both be good (but still 10 times slower than the USB you're debugging .. :( 2016-03-16T02:44:34 < Laurenceb_> the emperor protects 2016-03-16T02:45:56 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T02:46:51 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T02:48:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T02:59:03 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-16T03:01:22 < Laurenceb_> http://8ch.net/n/res/339479.html 2016-03-16T03:01:24 < Laurenceb_> dramaz 2016-03-16T03:02:04 < Laurenceb_> https://medium.com/@Thetruthwillcomeout/i-was-sexually-assaulted-by-the-owner-of-8chan-here-is-my-story-9b7efb2b3460#.aiy0ft7vv 2016-03-16T03:02:58 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/T0e5ne0.jpg 2016-03-16T03:15:27 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-16T03:18:08 -!- hjf [~hjf@unaffiliated/hjf] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-16T03:30:49 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T03:32:29 < ohsix> shotgun mouthwash? 2016-03-16T03:32:36 < ohsix> man i don't have the speed i used to 2016-03-16T03:36:40 < Laurenceb_> i think im gonna do it 2016-03-16T03:36:47 < Laurenceb_> was expecting school shooting 2016-03-16T03:42:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-16T03:42:22 < kakimir> Laurenceb such a fan 2016-03-16T03:42:30 < kakimir> always anticipating 2016-03-16T03:48:35 < kakimir> and cheering 2016-03-16T03:54:15 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/3IN2a7l 2016-03-16T03:54:37 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-16T03:55:56 -!- TheSeven 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ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-16T04:51:23 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuG_CeEZV6w 2016-03-16T04:55:06 < PeterM> hey Laurenceb_ have you done antying wiht averagign the positional data recieved by multiple GPSs to give more accurate positional data? 2016-03-16T04:55:30 < Laurenceb_> not with a vengeance 2016-03-16T04:55:44 < Laurenceb_> only as part of an IMU 2016-03-16T04:55:54 < Laurenceb_> what sort of averaging do you want? 2016-03-16T04:57:03 < Laurenceb_> oh multiple receivers? no 2016-03-16T04:57:16 < Laurenceb_> although SBAS/EGNOS sort of does that 2016-03-16T04:58:13 < ohsix> how would that make it more accurate? 2016-03-16T04:58:15 < PeterM> will gogole 2016-03-16T04:58:25 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: differential gps 2016-03-16T04:58:29 < ohsix> you're looking for correlated errors and i don't think there would be any just from '2 gps' 2016-03-16T04:58:34 < ohsix> right 2016-03-16T04:58:50 < PeterM> io dont mean jsut two, i mean liek 5, i central and 4 in alike a squatre or something 2016-03-16T04:59:10 < ohsix> there's also nondeterministic noise added unless you're the military and you get the chipping codes for teh hard stuff ;D 2016-03-16T04:59:10 < Laurenceb_> what the hell 2016-03-16T04:59:20 < Laurenceb_> i dont think 5 or so really helps 2016-03-16T04:59:46 < ohsix> one moving at a rate you know pretty well will work better than 5 just averaged together 2016-03-16T04:59:53 < Laurenceb_> two receivers, one fixed 2016-03-16T04:59:59 < Laurenceb_> is all you need 2016-03-16T05:00:33 < PeterM> yeah im lookign for absolute accuracy, and all recievers fixed to the same thing 2016-03-16T05:00:48 < PeterM> so i can't have one move and one stay stationary 2016-03-16T05:01:02 < ohsix> you'd probably want to look for information that isn't related to gps, fm/gsm stuff 2016-03-16T05:01:09 < Laurenceb_> more than two receivers is not really going to help 2016-03-16T05:01:21 < PeterM> you say that 2016-03-16T05:01:47 < PeterM> http://2012.sensorapps.org/sites/default/files/uploads/1569519559.pdf https://www.syz.com/gps/gpsaveraging.html http://digitalcommons.mtu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1413&context=etds 2016-03-16T05:02:18 < Laurenceb_> interesting 2016-03-16T05:02:31 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: you can do bit edge detection on the L2 channel 2016-03-16T05:02:57 < Laurenceb_> at least this baby does http://www.sstl.co.uk/Products/Subsystems/Navigation/SGR-05P-Space-GPS-Receiver 2016-03-16T05:03:31 < Laurenceb_> unless you are a mil spec / whatever customer and they put mil code on it iirc 2016-03-16T05:10:59 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T05:12:13 < Laurenceb_> then there is swift nav https://www.swiftnav.com/ 2016-03-16T05:13:56 < PeterM> we do RTK but the cost of accessing basestations are expensive 2016-03-16T05:14:28 < Laurenceb_> yeah that seems to be the idea of swift nav 2016-03-16T05:14:43 < Laurenceb_> speaking of which they are lurking in the 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ruler 2016-03-16T08:00:35 < ohsix> last thing i felt with my eyes scratched my cornea 2016-03-16T08:02:43 < ohsix> because both numbers are completely arbitrary 2016-03-16T08:04:02 < ReadError> banned tectu? wat 2016-03-16T08:04:07 < ReadError> he was here earlier 2016-03-16T08:10:18 < PeterM> R2COM, check if this makes a difference to you http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/choose-whether-to-smooth-edges-of-screen-fonts-in-windows-10.html 2016-03-16T08:10:47 < PeterM> also this http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/turn-off-or-on-clear-type-text-in-windows-10.html 2016-03-16T08:26:56 < dongs> i see autism6 decided to park in here. 2016-03-16T08:27:08 < dongs> R2COM: if you want different scaling on different monitors one will be fuzzy. 2016-03-16T08:37:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-139.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T08:42:01 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:508:d901:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-16T08:42:26 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has 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https://ideas.lego.com/projects/98263 2016-03-16T09:32:37 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T09:36:54 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.228.40] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T09:38:37 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-16T09:44:17 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.228.40] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-16T09:48:44 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T09:49:36 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T10:00:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/expert-needed/ 11 breadboard experts found 2016-03-16T10:02:18 < PeterM> ^ 2016-03-16T10:04:38 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T10:11:20 < dongs> youre not a breadboard expert? 2016-03-16T10:12:33 < dongs> me neither 2016-03-16T10:12:36 < dongs> :( 2016-03-16T10:13:05 < dongs> PHD in breadboarding 2016-03-16T10:13:08 < dongs> or in pumping? 2016-03-16T10:13:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/PCB-design-for-generator/ 2016-03-16T10:13:40 < dongs> current bid: $20 2016-03-16T10:14:20 < dongs> budget: $180 2016-03-16T10:15:51 < dongs> lack of quality freelancin' lately. 2016-03-16T10:16:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/PCB-schematics-design-layout-basic/ or these clowns 2016-03-16T10:16:34 < dongs> they want everything done in 20x30mm pcb with ESP14/88 including test firmware for it, and delivery of assembled proto 2016-03-16T10:16:38 < dongs> for 2500 sgd which is like $1800 2016-03-16T10:17:09 < dongs> no 2016-03-16T10:17:14 < dongs> its been prety quiet lately 2016-03-16T10:17:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-board-design-9955588/ 2016-03-16T10:20:41 < dongs> Paul 2016-03-16T10:20:41 < dongs> Thinker, Tinkerer, Inventor. 2016-03-16T10:20:42 < dongs> JinaduLabs 2016-03-16T10:20:47 < dongs> like like jihadlabs 2016-03-16T10:20:54 < dongs> Paul sounds like Ivan 2016-03-16T10:21:00 < dongs> Surulere , Nigeria - 9 am 2016-03-16T10:23:45 < ohsix> ooh nigeria, he could be a prince, there are a lot of them 2016-03-16T10:28:41 < ohsix> http://hackaday.com/2016/03/15/sdram-logic-analyzer-uses-an-avr-and-a-dirty-trick/ 2016-03-16T10:29:42 < jpa-> heh, nice trick 2016-03-16T10:30:33 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-16T10:30:45 < ohsix> interesting thing is he uses sdram pins as feedback 2016-03-16T10:34:07 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T10:35:54 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-16T10:39:20 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T10:41:51 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T10:45:57 < ReadError> https://www.keil.com/pack/doc/CMSIS/DSP/html/group___p_i_d.html 2016-03-16T10:46:00 < ReadError> interesting 2016-03-16T10:46:22 < dongs> what? its been in cmsis math lib for years 2016-03-16T10:48:24 < ReadError> new to me 2016-03-16T10:48:25 < ReadError> http://blog.atx.name/chibios-powered-reflow-oven-with-web-interface/ 2016-03-16T10:48:29 < ReadError> pretty neat 2016-03-16T10:49:27 < dongs> pretty useless 2016-03-16T10:49:39 < ReadError> well the reflow bit yea 2016-03-16T10:49:48 < ReadError> but the ethernet/pid stuff im interested in 2016-03-16T10:50:57 < dongs> SPI ethernet on STM32, for ~reasons~ 2016-03-16T10:51:00 < dongs> sounds like a waste of time 2016-03-16T10:53:48 < ReadError> yea well look at the MCU hes using 2016-03-16T10:53:54 < dongs> so fucking what 2016-03-16T10:54:13 < dongs> 107 in 64pin has ethernet 2016-03-16T10:54:34 < dongs> probly m0 shit too, i never cared to check 2016-03-16T10:54:43 < dongs> a M0 nobody uses = more $ than M3 that everyone does 2016-03-16T10:55:09 < dongs> just use rageberrypi 2016-03-16T10:55:11 < dongs> $35 2016-03-16T10:55:13 < dongs> isntead of $60 2016-03-16T10:55:14 < dongs> done 2016-03-16T10:55:28 < ReadError> $2.12 a pop on the f03 2016-03-16T10:55:31 < dongs> innovation report closed 2016-03-16T10:55:38 < dongs> dear stonererror. nobody gives a fuck. 2016-03-16T10:55:45 < ReadError> idk, I mostly was just looking for a temp pid loop for something 2016-03-16T10:55:50 < lorenzo> > for around 4$ a piece 2016-03-16T10:55:51 < dongs> yeah because thats HARD 2016-03-16T10:55:51 < lorenzo> > They should be able to switch up to 380VAC at 25A 2016-03-16T10:55:52 < lorenzo> ... yeah 2016-03-16T10:56:10 < ReadError> dear dongs, stfu 2016-03-16T10:57:38 < dongs> just saying, you keep stifling innovation 2016-03-16T10:57:46 < PeterM> just buy a fuckin ebay main pid temp controller for like $10 2016-03-16T10:58:24 < dongs> you mean the kind chinaovens use 2016-03-16T10:58:47 < PeterM> i dunno, i just mean the generic inductrial ones used for evertyhing 2016-03-16T10:59:02 < jpa-> those are nice, they hide the small differences on display so that it appears super-stable :P 2016-03-16T10:59:51 < lorenzo> http://www.ebay.it/itm/271586525591 2016-03-16T10:59:53 < lorenzo> ha 2016-03-16T11:00:01 < PeterM> doesnt matter, theres enough inertia i nthe system that unles you're using it to control temp and the two options are a thermite valve and a liquid helium valve you're probably not goign to have an issues 2016-03-16T11:00:35 < dongs> now thats real innovation. support china and done. 2016-03-16T11:00:48 < dongs> does that evne include the fucking SSR? 2016-03-16T11:00:49 < dongs> lol 2016-03-16T11:01:01 < PeterM> no heatsink for ssr though 2016-03-16T11:01:09 < lorenzo> dongs: yeah 2016-03-16T11:02:16 < PeterM> yeah man, overcompensated loops 10/10 2016-03-16T11:04:34 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Building-POS-interception-device/ 2016-03-16T11:04:37 < dongs> haha 2016-03-16T11:08:26 < PeterM> >ardiuno 2016-03-16T11:08:32 < dongs> wehre?> 2016-03-16T11:08:42 < dongs> ah skills required 2016-03-16T11:08:44 < dongs> ya, right 2016-03-16T11:09:53 < PeterM> wait... there is a thing where you just watch live streams of korean girls eat food... wut 2016-03-16T11:10:09 < PeterM> dafuw 2016-03-16T11:10:11 < PeterM> q 2016-03-16T11:10:49 < PeterM> nah it's like there are things way higher on my prefrences for live streams 2016-03-16T11:12:07 < dongs> pretty sure you can get livestreams of pooping 2016-03-16T11:12:39 < PeterM> yeah, thats not that high on the list of prefrences for livestreams 2016-03-16T11:15:17 < PeterM> like top of the list would be people livestreaming dash cams 2016-03-16T11:15:43 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T11:15:52 < PeterM> or like... a day in the life or R2COM live stream 2016-03-16T11:16:17 < dongs> isnt that just fapping while playing counterstrike 2016-03-16T11:16:22 < dongs> like 18 hours a day 2016-03-16T11:16:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T11:17:42 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-16T11:17:51 < PeterM> nah, theres like 2 hours of drinks alcohol form a plastic bottle, 2 hours of squatting 3 hours of excessive smoking and terrible dancing, a hour or so of playing in abandoned buildings etc 2016-03-16T11:18:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T11:20:45 < ReadError> PeterM ive used those 2016-03-16T11:20:52 < ReadError> they are a real PITA to program 2016-03-16T11:21:08 < ReadError> plus have data over time is useful 2016-03-16T11:21:09 < dongs> pushing buttons is hard if youre a dumb cloner 2016-03-16T11:21:50 < ReadError> I need multiple readings from different places to be accounted for 2016-03-16T11:22:00 < ReadError> so yea its just not going to work 2016-03-16T11:25:35 < ReadError> maybe ill throw one of those ESP shits on for funsies 2016-03-16T11:27:20 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] 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with a USB mic 2016-03-16T11:54:19 < dongs> amirite? 2016-03-16T11:54:29 < PeterM> pretty fukken spot on 2016-03-16T11:54:44 < dongs> i'm gonna bid 150k indian rupees and deliver that. 2016-03-16T11:55:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/Generation-Components-Footprints-EAGLE/ 2016-03-16T11:55:29 < dongs> i'd do it for 3k for altium 2016-03-16T11:55:35 < dongs> but not in eagle 2016-03-16T11:55:46 < dongs> why the fuck would you need same shit in altium AND eagle 2016-03-16T11:56:52 < PeterM> actually probably not even a rageberry, probably one of those openwrt ar9331 thigns could do it 2016-03-16T11:59:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-16T12:01:44 < Taxman> dongs: A lot of developers use eagle and altium. i had yesterday a customer talk who wants work done in eagle. 2016-03-16T12:05:54 < dongs> PeterM: i think he wants it to have ethernet port, tho i guess you can overdeliver and just make it have wifi. 2016-03-16T12:06:50 < dongs> haha 2016-03-16T12:06:56 < dongs> some dick bid 1mil rupees 2016-03-16T12:06:58 < dongs> on that IOT thing 2016-03-16T12:08:55 < PeterM> dongs ar9331 has ethernet, i think it even has built in phy, just need magjack 2016-03-16T12:09:10 < dongs> nice 2016-03-16T12:09:17 < dongs> is that one of those internet of dicks opensores wifi shits? 2016-03-16T12:09:38 < dongs> 1st url = openhacks, must be 2016-03-16T12:13:51 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Social-Networking/Find-Supplier-9958413/ 2016-03-16T12:13:54 < dongs> how does this even work 2016-03-16T12:15:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T12:15:42 < dongs> chinaman, sup 2016-03-16T12:23:30 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-16T12:23:48 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T12:25:54 < upgrdman> just chinaing 2016-03-16T12:26:18 < 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Leaving] 2016-03-16T12:37:53 < ReadError> We are writing to let you know that with effect from 27 January 2016, the Slashdot Media business, which provides online services through various web sites including Slashdot.org and SourceForge.net (the "Slashdot Media Services") has been purchased by SourceForge Media LLC of 1660 Logan Avenue, San Diego, California, 92113, USA ("we" or "us"). 2016-03-16T12:37:59 < ReadError> didnt know.. 2016-03-16T12:40:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.144] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T12:45:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T12:47:07 < upgrdman> was wondering why i couldnt plug shit into my bro4's usb port. a fucking dessicant bag thinggy in my backpack broke open and two of the dessicant balls were jammed up my my usb and minidp ports. lol 2016-03-16T12:48:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-16T12:48:55 -!- kuldeep 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https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/floating-for-youtube-exte/egncdnniomonjgpjbapalkckojhkfddk?hl=en-US kewl 2016-03-16T13:23:46 < ReadError> damn this is cool as hell actually 2016-03-16T13:23:55 < ReadError> can pop it out and always on top it 2016-03-16T13:24:19 < Thorn> why is stm32f103 so expensive. I remember it being twice as cheap a couple years ago 2016-03-16T13:24:31 < Thorn> not 8+ euro 2016-03-16T13:24:37 < upgrdman> a while ago i was asking for "quality" rainbow wire in here. i have not found silicone, but i found some that is much nicer than the ebay.cn dupont shit. BPS ZW-MF-20, ZW-MM-20, ZW-FF-20. like twice as flexible as the stiff dick dupont shit. 2016-03-16T13:24:37 < upgrdman> i forgot who wanted me to tell them of what i found 2016-03-16T13:24:38 < upgrdman> maybe it was gargantua 2016-03-16T13:24:45 < ReadError> Thorn huh? 2016-03-16T13:24:47 < ReadError> like 2$ 2016-03-16T13:24:49 < ReadError> on ali 2016-03-16T13:24:58 < dongs> upgrdman: i have silicone ribbon wire now 2016-03-16T13:25:10 < dongs> not rainbow tho but shrug 2016-03-16T13:25:40 < Thorn> http://eu.mouser.com/_/?Keyword=STM32F103VCT6 2016-03-16T13:25:53 < dongs> Thorn: that part is liek $3 max 2016-03-16T13:26:03 < upgrdman> orly 2016-03-16T13:26:03 < upgrdman> hmmm, price? 2016-03-16T13:26:41 < dongs> upgrdman: donno, chinagirl'd 2016-03-16T13:26:44 < dongs> got a spool of it 2016-03-16T13:26:50 < dongs> englishman will soon ahve some 2016-03-16T13:26:56 < dongs> he;ll post amazevideoreview 2016-03-16T13:27:08 < Sync_> kek 2016-03-16T13:27:09 < upgrdman> how many conductors 2016-03-16T13:27:20 < dongs> i got 6 but there was more choices 2016-03-16T13:27:28 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-16T13:27:35 < dongs> its 1.27mm pitch or whatever 2016-03-16T13:27:40 < upgrdman> ya 2016-03-16T13:33:16 < dongs> thorn, why do you need VC 2016-03-16T13:42:32 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-16T13:43:00 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T13:43:35 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-16T13:44:19 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T13:50:14 < dongs> i know what it is 2016-03-16T13:51:13 -!- lorenzo_ [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T13:51:23 < Thorn> dongs: just looking at current prices for stuff that I have ordered before so that I can compare 2016-03-16T13:51:38 < dongs> oic 2016-03-16T13:51:48 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host28-15-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T14:02:33 -!- lorenzo_ is now known as lorenzo 2016-03-16T14:07:38 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-57.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T14:09:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.144] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T14:37:33 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T14:54:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-16T15:12:29 < englishman> too busy looping ddosking 2016-03-16T15:16:48 -!- s1ck [~s1ck@109.235.226.188] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T15:17:06 < s1ck> Hi! does anyone have experience with virgin stm32f0 ICs? i'm trying to build a minimal circuit but I can not attach swd or use the usart bootloader 2016-03-16T15:17:42 < s1ck> i bought a bunch of them from ebay and i have to build up a minimal circuit because I broke my eval board 2016-03-16T15:19:27 < zyp> should work fine 2016-03-16T15:22:18 < s1ck> i attached vss, vdd, gnd and i' pulling boot0 high. the uart lines (pa9, pa10 on stm32f051) are pulled high correctly, so it's doing something. also it draws a little current 2016-03-16T15:22:21 < s1ck> and no smoke 2016-03-16T15:22:31 < s1ck> but i can not talk to the bootloader 2016-03-16T15:22:35 < s1ck> nor can i attach swd 2016-03-16T15:22:51 < dongs> you broke something 2016-03-16T15:23:12 < dongs> does nrst have a pullup? 2016-03-16T15:23:17 < dongs> it doesnt realyl need one but just in case 2016-03-16T15:23:28 < s1ck> ok let me try that 2016-03-16T15:24:19 < zyp> does it have avss/avdd? did you hook up those? 2016-03-16T15:24:37 < zyp> chip won't work if you leave out avdd, even if you don't use adc 2016-03-16T15:24:59 < s1ck> dongs, nothing 2016-03-16T15:25:04 < s1ck> zyp, yup i did that 2016-03-16T15:25:08 < zyp> ok, good 2016-03-16T15:25:21 < zyp> are you sure you got tx and rx right? 2016-03-16T15:25:52 < dongs> ya uh, try swapping them 2016-03-16T15:26:00 < s1ck> i tried that as well 2016-03-16T15:26:07 < s1ck> no luck 2016-03-16T15:26:13 < dongs> what are you using for bootloader 2016-03-16T15:26:17 < dongs> stm32 flash demo tool thing? 2016-03-16T15:26:22 < dongs> or some lunix junk 2016-03-16T15:26:54 < s1ck> yes, i tried the demo win app and the stm32flash tool on linux 2016-03-16T15:27:06 < s1ck> i verified that they send the signature with a LA 2016-03-16T15:27:11 < s1ck> that looks fine 2016-03-16T15:27:15 < dongs> does chip reply anything? 2016-03-16T15:27:19 < s1ck> nothing 2016-03-16T15:27:30 < zyp> I assume you've tested multiple chips? 2016-03-16T15:27:46 < s1ck> just one. do you think its faulty? 2016-03-16T15:27:59 < dongs> is it possible you could have burned it? 2016-03-16T15:28:01 < zyp> well, it sounds like you're doing everything right 2016-03-16T15:28:07 < Thorn> I went out to buy groceries and found a dc/dc board with a 34063 in the hallway 2016-03-16T15:28:28 < s1ck> i had some trouble soldering it but it should be good, i did worse on other stuff lol 2016-03-16T15:28:47 < zyp> they're kinda hard to break without applying excessive/reverse voltage, so I wouldn't bet on it being broken, but it's good to rule out 2016-03-16T15:29:13 < s1ck> ok i'll try another one. could it be that its a fake and thus crappy? 2016-03-16T15:29:23 < zyp> (and one broken with excessive voltage, they tend to fail short, so you'll notice the excessive current draw as soon as you apply power) 2016-03-16T15:29:27 < zyp> once* 2016-03-16T15:29:45 < s1ck> nah no smoke and current looks fine, ~20ma 2016-03-16T15:30:06 < zyp> I don't have any experience with fake chips 2016-03-16T15:30:20 < zyp> but if it's fake, it could be anything with a stm32 label :p 2016-03-16T15:31:46 < s1ck> hm 2016-03-16T15:33:38 < PaulFertser> s1ck: some stm32 require power to analog domain as well. 2016-03-16T15:34:03 < PaulFertser> Ah, was already mentioned. 2016-03-16T15:34:10 < dongs> covered 2016-03-16T15:35:32 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/uy9lbdj.png how does a pro route this 2016-03-16T15:36:24 < s1ck> crt, it was cheap but not that crazy cheap, like 1.5 $ each for a pack of 5 2016-03-16T15:36:37 < dongs> reasonable 2016-03-16T15:36:41 < dongs> anyway, hm 2016-03-16T15:36:48 < dongs> and how are you hooking up swd? 2016-03-16T15:36:59 < dongs> is anything else connected or is this thing on a breakout board of some sorts 2016-03-16T15:37:30 < s1ck> pa13, pa14, nrst to st link and connect under reset 2016-03-16T15:37:41 < s1ck> this is the pure ic and nothing else 2016-03-16T15:38:12 < s1ck> i didnt decouple the power but the psu is good, should that matter? 2016-03-16T15:38:35 < dongs> probly not 2016-03-16T15:38:44 < s1ck> thats what i thought 2016-03-16T15:39:16 < s1ck> lol ok 2016-03-16T15:42:31 < Thorn> isn't there an internal linear regulator in most cortex-m ICs? 2016-03-16T15:42:46 < Thorn> the core needs 1.8 or 1.2V or something like that 2016-03-16T15:43:08 < Thorn> if so, maybe it needs external caps to run 2016-03-16T15:43:58 < zyp> Thorn, depends on the chip 2016-03-16T15:44:18 < zyp> I think only f2/f4/f7 has that of the stm32s 2016-03-16T15:44:22 < kakimir> dongs: when you know let me know 2016-03-16T15:45:25 < s1ck> hm 2016-03-16T15:52:24 < dongs> this is s1ck's proj: http://www.jsykora.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/DSC_0194_web.jpg 2016-03-16T15:52:46 < s1ck> lol 2016-03-16T15:53:00 < dongs> how far off am i 2016-03-16T15:53:03 < s1ck> crt, basically I just soldered the ic to a breakout board and added the power connections. that didnt work, so i added a pullup to boot0 2016-03-16T15:53:25 < dongs> is it one of those TQFP>DIP breakout things? 2016-03-16T15:53:30 < s1ck> yup 2016-03-16T15:53:35 < dongs> ok. those definitely work 2016-03-16T15:53:40 < dongs> i've stuck a regular stm32 on there 2016-03-16T15:53:44 < dongs> even without caps and shit. 2016-03-16T15:54:12 < s1ck> hm 2016-03-16T15:54:33 < dongs> http://www.waveshare.com/stm32-qfp48.htm this is what you should get tho 2016-03-16T15:54:58 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T15:55:11 < s1ck> yeah sure im not gonna spend 60 bucks on that 2016-03-16T15:55:24 < s1ck> if a little soldering and 1$ can do the same 2016-03-16T15:57:38 < s1ck> i mean for bga and other difficult shit, sure. i have a few of those 2016-03-16T15:58:51 < Sync_> for production that's not bad 2016-03-16T16:00:06 < zyp> wat 2016-03-16T16:00:37 < englishman> dongs: autoroute.exe 2016-03-16T16:00:40 < zyp> pre-programming chips like that is zano-level bad 2016-03-16T16:00:49 < englishman> or flip connector???????? 2016-03-16T16:00:50 < s1ck> lol 2016-03-16T16:01:15 < s1ck> that would be a fun job 2016-03-16T16:01:21 < dongs> autoroute.exe looked totally awful 2016-03-16T16:01:22 < dongs> i got it tho 2016-03-16T16:01:22 < dongs> np 2016-03-16T16:01:29 < englishman> i wonder who got that pic programmer 2016-03-16T16:01:38 < dongs> whoever did paid way too much for it 2016-03-16T16:01:44 < dongs> it was like 4k gbp? 2016-03-16T16:01:53 < englishman> but wasnt it like 15k new 2016-03-16T16:02:07 < dongs> tesla model x is $90k new 2016-03-16T16:02:10 < dongs> doens't mean its not shit 2016-03-16T16:02:25 < englishman> tesla model x will ve 4kgbp in 5 years 2016-03-16T16:02:31 < dongs> also true 2016-03-16T16:02:45 < englishman> after people find the battery packs are $60k and you can only buy parts from tesla and get shit serviced at tesla 2016-03-16T16:03:05 < zyp> heh 2016-03-16T16:03:11 < englishman> and you car is remotely disabled after warranty runs out 2016-03-16T16:04:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-16T16:04:49 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T16:08:10 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T16:08:55 < Sync_> I'm waiting for someone in germony suing tesla for not providing external garages access to their shit 2016-03-16T16:09:55 < dongs> does anyone in germany even carea bout tesla 2016-03-16T16:11:51 < Sync_> yes dongs 2016-03-16T16:13:09 < zyp> Sync_, tesla doesn't? pretty sure they do in norway 2016-03-16T16:13:27 < Sync_> they do, but they are cunts about it 2016-03-16T17:03:29 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:508:d901:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T17:19:53 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-16T17:22:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-16T17:26:27 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T17:28:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-57.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-16T17:29:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.153] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T17:34:27 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T17:41:57 < karlp> went to buy a car today, had called back to check it was still available, drove all the way out there, took it for a test drive, went in, agreed to the price the owner wanted, _then_ the guy at the next desk goes, "oh yeah, that's sold already, there's a guy coming at 5pm to get it" 2016-03-16T17:42:08 < karlp> fucking cuntastical 2016-03-16T17:42:17 < karlp> that's the second time exactly that has happened. 2016-03-16T17:42:55 < karlp> also had outbid on a private sale, and going inside to get the keys for a car fro a test drive that had also been sold just before we got there, but not had the price tag taken down yet. 2016-03-16T17:43:01 < karlp> fucking cars 2016-03-16T17:43:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T17:45:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-16T17:47:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-16T17:52:16 < karlp> altium has a viewer, but it's meant to be licensed as well? 2016-03-16T17:52:57 < dongs> altidong viewer? 2016-03-16T17:53:18 < dongs> REGISTER FOR YOUR FREE 6-MONTH VIEWER LICENSE 2016-03-16T17:53:19 < dongs> lol 2016-03-16T17:53:34 < karlp> yeah, wtf with that 2016-03-16T17:53:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:05:59 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@96.89.49.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:06:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-16T18:07:39 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-16T18:09:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:13:12 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xtlluwwvhihgvmap] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:14:01 < Laurenceb> stupid work shit 2016-03-16T18:14:09 < Laurenceb> "why is gui not ready" 2016-03-16T18:14:17 < Laurenceb> because hard 2016-03-16T18:14:26 < Laurenceb> "but pc has fast processor" 2016-03-16T18:16:52 < Laurenceb> "why not use excel macros??" 2016-03-16T18:17:27 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/Vce9Rbd.jpg 2016-03-16T18:18:16 < Sync_> sounds good 2016-03-16T18:18:25 < dongs> BREAKING: North Korea sentences 21-year-old American student Otto Warmbier to 15 years of labor for stealing a propoganda sign from a hotel; White House expected to announce undetermined level of concern 2016-03-16T18:19:18 < Laurenceb> owned 2016-03-16T18:19:23 < dongs> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35818581 2016-03-16T18:20:01 < Sync_> he'll probably get free after some corn turns up 2016-03-16T18:23:31 < Laurenceb> uh oh https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298214364_Admixture_in_the_Americas_Regional_and_National_Differences 2016-03-16T18:23:45 < Laurenceb> is dat some flamebait 2016-03-16T18:25:29 < karlp> oh, so even if i get altium viewer, itð's windows only?! 2016-03-16T18:25:35 < Laurenceb> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63720513/Images/Funny/pico.jpg 2016-03-16T18:25:44 < dongs> karlp: what teh fuick did you expect it to be ? 2016-03-16T18:25:53 < dongs> altium is written in delphi 2016-03-16T18:26:00 < dongs> some ancient version too 2016-03-16T18:26:08 < dongs> and closely tied to directx etc. 2016-03-16T18:26:09 < Laurenceb> delphi?! lulwut 2016-03-16T18:26:17 < dongs> ya bro 2016-03-16T18:26:21 < dongs> dxp.pas 2016-03-16T18:27:31 < karlp> oh yeah, I forgot altium is just old protel with fancy pants on. 2016-03-16T18:31:13 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-16T18:41:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.109.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:45:07 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:50:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:956f:594b:f662:a55b] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T18:53:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:956f:594b:f662:a55b] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-16T18:56:10 < karlp> heh, download summer09 atlium viewer installer from alitum themselves. 2016-03-16T18:56:19 < karlp> setup doesn't complete, "setup was interrutped before finishing" 2016-03-16T18:56:21 < karlp> ummm... no? 2016-03-16T18:59:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-16T19:03:58 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T19:09:09 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/JrJLgzj 2016-03-16T19:13:02 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T19:39:19 < karlp> well, it works enough to see what these files were, that's ok then I guess. 2016-03-16T19:48:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.85] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T19:52:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T20:01:49 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-16T20:22:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T20:22:33 < kakimir> dongs: https://4portus.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/polarity-of-battery-connectors.jpg aren't those picoblades in the right? 2016-03-16T20:24:13 < kakimir> perfect it has chargeable backup battery then 2016-03-16T20:24:41 < kakimir> just make sure not to charge over 3.6volt or whatever mcus preffer to have max 2016-03-16T20:25:28 < kakimir> unless utilize some backup battery circuit with charger and ldo 2016-03-16T20:26:44 < kakimir> do you know any nice one that can charge 4.0V-4.2V from 5v and LDO with comparator cutoff? 2016-03-16T20:27:18 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T20:27:27 < kakimir> all in some tiny package 2016-03-16T20:30:50 < englishman> yes theres a shitload of these chipz 2016-03-16T20:31:00 < englishman> charging + battery management + buckboost 2016-03-16T20:31:18 < englishman> or ldo 2016-03-16T20:31:39 < Laurenceb> hmm how do i excel 2016-03-16T20:31:46 < Laurenceb> or libreoffice even... 2016-03-16T20:31:55 < kakimir> I dont want that cuckboost part 2016-03-16T20:31:57 < englishman> 1) download libreoffice 2016-03-16T20:31:58 < Laurenceb> i need to edit an equation in a greyed out cell 2016-03-16T20:32:01 < englishman> 2) insert head into oven 2016-03-16T20:32:01 < kakimir> no need for such 2016-03-16T20:32:02 < Laurenceb> ah libcuck 2016-03-16T20:32:17 < Laurenceb> need to turn off the greying out part 2016-03-16T20:34:12 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@96.89.49.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-16T20:48:31 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-16T20:51:20 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T20:59:13 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T21:02:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T21:03:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:1930:38c4:733a:e83] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T21:06:31 < kakimir> I need solution to charge litium cell from 5volt rail and power vbat via extra low current LDO with comparator /w reference based shutdown 2016-03-16T21:06:44 < kakimir> also would not charge faulty cell 2016-03-16T21:07:40 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-16T21:09:25 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T21:09:25 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-16T21:12:12 < kakimir> in one IC 2016-03-16T21:12:17 < kakimir> do you know any such? 2016-03-16T21:28:24 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T21:30:59 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T21:49:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@9.99.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-16T21:52:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T21:59:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T22:03:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-16T22:09:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T22:10:54 < PeterM> if its jsut a cell for timekeeping (say 30mah) you could probably jsut use a zener and a resistor 2016-03-16T22:12:12 < kakimir> I could 2016-03-16T22:12:38 < kakimir> maybe if resistor is big enought there is no need to concider faulty battery 2016-03-16T22:12:48 < kakimir> just stuff that current in there 2016-03-16T22:13:05 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-16T22:13:25 < PeterM> pretty much 2016-03-16T22:13:46 < kakimir> but when you count those plus comparator and ldo 2016-03-16T22:13:56 < qyx> why you not just search the webs 2016-03-16T22:14:10 < qyx> there are single IC chargers for ~0.30 2016-03-16T22:14:12 < kakimir> I get only something I dont want 2016-03-16T22:14:38 < kakimir> something like switching backup power with cuckboost 2016-03-16T22:14:40 < kakimir> bloat 2016-03-16T22:14:59 < qyx> mcp73831 for example 2016-03-16T22:15:22 < qyx> max1551 2016-03-16T22:15:47 < kakimir> does it do that ldo stuff and cutoff? 2016-03-16T22:15:57 < qyx> what ldo stuff 2016-03-16T22:17:01 < kakimir> maximum voltage for vbat is 3.6volts or so 2016-03-16T22:17:18 < kakimir> also keeping lipo at 4.2volts constant doesn't sound good 2016-03-16T22:17:19 < qyx> so use an ldo 2016-03-16T22:17:31 < qyx> the charging ic takes care of that 2016-03-16T22:17:50 < qyx> it disconnects the power source when the charging cycle is finished 2016-03-16T22:18:15 < qyx> and reconnects again with hysteresis 2016-03-16T22:18:20 < kakimir> yes it keeps lipo at 4.2volts but it's not that ideal voltage for long life for battery 2016-03-16T22:18:48 < qyx> so dont use a lipo 2016-03-16T22:18:58 < kakimir> I definitelly would 2016-03-16T22:18:59 < qyx> you cannot (shouldn't) charge a lipo with zener and a resistor 2016-03-16T22:19:08 < kakimir> okay got it 2016-03-16T22:19:09 < qyx> or use a small lifepo 2016-03-16T22:19:17 < qyx> thats 3.6max 2016-03-16T22:19:21 < qyx> and use that zener with it 2016-03-16T22:19:29 < kakimir> small lipo isn't that unsafe 2016-03-16T22:19:34 < kakimir> let it blow if it wants to 2016-03-16T22:19:43 < qyx> meh 2016-03-16T22:20:00 < kakimir> that charger ic is CC source 2016-03-16T22:20:17 < kakimir> I dont need CC source 2016-03-16T22:21:36 < qyx> it is CCCV source with proper shutdown 2016-03-16T22:22:15 < kakimir> maybe hysteresis is required 2016-03-16T22:23:54 < qyx> use NiMH then 2016-03-16T22:23:56 < qyx> :S 2016-03-16T22:24:13 < kakimir> that is discusting idea 2016-03-16T22:24:43 < kakimir> *g 2016-03-16T22:25:20 < kakimir> I try to avoid such assembly where is charger, lipo, comparator /w reference and nanopower ldo 2016-03-16T22:25:40 < kakimir> but it seems to be how it goes 2016-03-16T22:29:18 < qyx> wtf, just do it as the others do 2016-03-16T22:29:20 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T22:29:59 < kakimir> others are CUCKS 2016-03-16T22:30:22 < qyx> cr2032 2016-03-16T22:34:00 < kakimir> you can get small lipo cell almost for the price of that 2016-03-16T22:37:24 < ohsix> i did some back of the envelope calculations for a thing with a cortex m0 and cr2032, wasn't hard to get 2 years 2016-03-16T22:38:33 < qyx> kakimir just wants to be innovative 2016-03-16T22:40:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-16T22:40:16 < kakimir> 2years? 2016-03-16T22:40:31 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-16T22:40:38 < kakimir> give me ten 2016-03-16T22:40:45 < ohsix> low duty cycle, if it was as deterministic as a clock it would probably last a lot longer 2016-03-16T22:40:55 < ohsix> get stm32cube it has a power calculator in it 2016-03-16T22:41:23 < ohsix> if it's just a clock you'd just have the 32khz clock source or whatever and it'd probably last a long ass time 2016-03-16T22:42:30 < ohsix> you can still turn on main/faster clock and do some quick work and last for ages tho 2016-03-16T22:44:45 < kakimir> can you power up stm32 from that vbat pin? 2016-03-16T22:45:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T22:45:54 < ohsix> dunno 2016-03-16T22:46:10 < ohsix> i'm still looking at datasheets for most things, and it hasn't been across a lot of parts 2016-03-16T22:46:11 < qyx> no 2016-03-16T22:46:21 < qyx> see the reference manual 2016-03-16T22:46:28 < qyx> it has drawings for this 2016-03-16T22:48:32 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T22:49:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T22:55:12 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T22:55:30 < karlp> the "getting startted with hardware" doc has this all too. 2016-03-16T22:55:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:1930:38c4:733a:e83] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-16T22:55:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T22:56:51 < kakimir> when you have lipo 2016-03-16T22:57:14 < kakimir> you can use it for the lifetile of the device 2016-03-16T22:57:55 < ohsix> price also goes way up for extra parts, power consumption too 2016-03-16T22:58:01 < ohsix> self discharge is higher 2016-03-16T22:58:16 < kakimir> be it once a year powered 2016-03-16T22:58:25 < kakimir> for 10years 2016-03-16T22:58:42 < kakimir> 10cycles for lipo 2016-03-16T22:58:52 < ohsix> only time you might do lipo instead of cr2032 for some 25mA cell or whatever, is when you might need several times the discharge current of the cr2032 2016-03-16T22:59:27 < kakimir> like actually powering something 2016-03-16T22:59:34 < kakimir> periodically 2016-03-16T23:00:04 < ohsix> if you have current / duty cycle in mind already, stick it into cube and you're done 2016-03-16T23:00:04 < qyx> be cool and use zinc air 2016-03-16T23:00:15 < qyx> for one month of full awesomeness 2016-03-16T23:00:21 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T23:00:22 < ohsix> it can use other battery chemistries 2016-03-16T23:00:24 < kakimir> I dont cube 2016-03-16T23:01:02 < ohsix> my condolences, had you you'd be done 2016-03-16T23:03:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:04:31 < kakimir> I dont know 2016-03-16T23:04:50 < kakimir> download install take a look 2016-03-16T23:05:03 < kakimir> easily a 30min 2016-03-16T23:05:31 < ohsix> sure, but then you can ask it how long it will work for your existing thing with the lipo too, and with different capacity cells 2016-03-16T23:05:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T23:06:13 < ohsix> hypothetically if you could run something for 10 years on a cr2032, you couldn't with a similarly rated lipo; the self discharge and stuff will be way higher 2016-03-16T23:06:36 < kakimir> calc.exe does pretty good 2016-03-16T23:07:00 -!- varesa [~varesa@ec2-52-49-18-111.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-16T23:07:23 < kakimir> there is periodical powerup 2016-03-16T23:07:33 < kakimir> and charge 2016-03-16T23:07:53 < ohsix> http://www.emcu.it/STM32Cube/Cube3.png 2016-03-16T23:08:45 < ohsix> stm32cube is just a dumb gui for the xml files that come with the cmsis kit for the processor 2016-03-16T23:09:16 < Steffanx> dump.. 2016-03-16T23:09:26 < Steffanx> you want to command line tool together something? 2016-03-16T23:09:39 < Steffanx> *dumb 2016-03-16T23:09:48 < ohsix> i would, maybe not for this but for the other stuff in the xml files 2016-03-16T23:10:03 < ohsix> stopped short of just writing it 2016-03-16T23:10:10 < kakimir> I dont see the need 2016-03-16T23:10:11 < Steffanx> I feel truly sorry for you. 2016-03-16T23:10:20 < ohsix> to do the linker scripts if you're not just using someone elses you need to look at the xml D: 2016-03-16T23:10:29 < ohsix> you just need 2 values out of it 2016-03-16T23:10:52 -!- varesa [~varesa@ec2-52-49-18-111.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:11:12 < ohsix> it's better than no interchange format, except keil is the only one really doing anything with it 2016-03-16T23:11:57 < ohsix> svdconv can generate headers at least 2016-03-16T23:12:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T23:12:57 < ohsix> in theory all you need is the svd xml file for any type of arm ip and nothing else to at least get going with cmsis and sw from other integrators 2016-03-16T23:13:59 < ohsix> oh heyyy this is new https://github.com/postspectacular/cmsis-svd-srcgen 2016-03-16T23:14:24 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-16T23:14:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:14:32 < Steffanx> Java 7+ 2016-03-16T23:14:44 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-16T23:14:49 < ohsix> at least i don't have to write it 2016-03-16T23:15:22 < ohsix> you could rip the xsl' they use and do most of the stuff with xsltproc or something 2016-03-16T23:15:31 < ohsix> almost everything xml gets you close to java 2016-03-16T23:17:32 < ohsix> it was 'inspired' by a python thing that does the same 2016-03-16T23:18:27 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-16T23:22:03 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-yeysrsjgpkejysfs] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-16T23:26:53 < ohsix> considering how small the xsl that does it actually is i feel kind of dum for not having done so, but i still don't know xsl ;D 2016-03-16T23:27:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.109.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-16T23:27:32 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-mwndmjlgsitacdfp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:36:23 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-16T23:38:25 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-mwndmjlgsitacdfp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-16T23:39:59 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:45:01 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-mqkwdehuufempkyh] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:46:59 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-16T23:48:16 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-16T23:48:17 < kakimir> maybe having a 3volt ldo would do ass battery protection 2016-03-16T23:48:20 < kakimir> ad 2016-03-16T23:48:25 < kakimir> asss 2016-03-16T23:48:50 < kakimir> wait no 2016-03-16T23:59:00 < kakimir> I wonder if there is such ldo that could turn itself off when input voltage is not met 2016-03-16T23:59:15 < ohsix> you mean drop out? 2016-03-16T23:59:51 < kakimir> I actually mean output voltage --- Day changed Thu Mar 17 2016 2016-03-17T00:00:14 < ohsix> what happens when a regulator drops out might be considered turning itself off 2016-03-17T00:01:03 < kakimir> drop out? 2016-03-17T00:01:30 < kakimir> regulators I have seen keep operating but output voltage is not met 2016-03-17T00:02:19 < kakimir> it's just Vin - Vdo 2016-03-17T00:03:11 < kakimir> but I wonder if there is such that output voltage goes to 0v when not enought input voltage 2016-03-17T00:04:59 < ohsix> do you need it to go to 0v or just less than 1.8v or whatever the thing it's connected to will operate at 2016-03-17T00:05:07 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-17T00:09:55 < ohsix> you might be able to find one that does that, but you can also use a zener/comparator to shut off the ipnut or something 2016-03-17T00:10:18 < ohsix> something that is related to charge control might have those kind of features 2016-03-17T00:16:12 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-17T00:17:43 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T00:23:01 < Steffanx> Welcome back. 2016-03-17T00:29:52 < Steffanx> Wonderful. And you over there on the otherside of the globe? 2016-03-17T00:30:26 < Steffanx> and then some pumping? 2016-03-17T00:30:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T00:32:09 < Steffanx> ok ok 2016-03-17T00:34:37 < Steffanx> Im not into adventures, more a fps guy. 2016-03-17T00:37:50 < Steffanx> day job is over. It's getting close to 00.00 here. 2016-03-17T00:44:21 < englishman> 7pm and the sun is still up 2016-03-17T00:44:23 < englishman> <3 dst 2016-03-17T00:50:35 < Steffanx> So why keiling crt? 2016-03-17T00:50:41 < Steffanx> because .. dongs? 2016-03-17T00:53:59 < Getty> awesome.... if i do anything connectwise (connect target, or connect st-link itself) with the st-link (which is connected to my linux computer) then the keyboard of my windows computer "restarts" and "reconnects".... ... thats fishy 2016-03-17T01:01:11 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:04:58 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:06:54 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-17T01:12:44 < Getty> lol i love doing QA, its like, always the first 2-3 devices are the ones making errors and you are for some time not sure if there is an error with your env or if its really the devices, drives me crazy 2016-03-17T01:13:04 < Getty> in this case it seems that like all the SD cards are fucked...... \o/ ah love winning the lottery 2016-03-17T01:13:47 -!- lorenzo_ [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:14:01 -!- lorenzo_ is now known as lorenzo 2016-03-17T01:18:26 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xtlluwwvhihgvmap] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-17T01:18:53 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:27:15 < Laurenceb_> sigh 2016-03-17T01:27:31 < Laurenceb_> apparently I need to consider user experience and USPs 2016-03-17T01:27:52 < Getty> haha 2016-03-17T01:28:00 < Getty> user experience is overrated! stone age was fine! 2016-03-17T01:28:32 < Getty> crt: i think your set of solutions is very limited ;-) 2016-03-17T01:28:57 < lorenzo> https://normandoors.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/keyboard.jpg 2016-03-17T01:28:59 < lorenzo> who said user experience 2016-03-17T01:30:37 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:508:d901:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-17T01:31:01 < Laurenceb_> apparently my ADS1298 driver code is useless 2016-03-17T01:31:20 < Laurenceb_> as no simple bullet point USP or user experience 2016-03-17T01:31:39 < Laurenceb_> so I have to work on GUI with nice fonts etc 2016-03-17T01:31:41 < Laurenceb_> :-S 2016-03-17T01:32:01 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:32:14 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:34:36 < Laurenceb_> ah cool, but can it ENHANCE ? 2016-03-17T01:34:59 < dongs> kakimir: no thats jst-xh or something 2016-03-17T01:35:15 < dongs> err neer mind didnt scroll right 2016-03-17T01:35:17 < Laurenceb_> lol someone just got fired 2016-03-17T01:35:18 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/710125441529487360 2016-03-17T01:36:49 < Getty> ah... a new reply for stupid questions: http://i.imgur.com/GIyh0q5.gif 2016-03-17T01:37:26 < Laurenceb_> is dat youtube comments section? 2016-03-17T01:37:55 < Getty> thats the "ELI5: How youtube comments are made?" 2016-03-17T01:39:28 < Laurenceb_> holy shit this is funny 2016-03-17T01:39:53 < Laurenceb_> Elon Musk bought congress by enlisting the help of evil and rabid John McCain 2016-03-17T01:40:08 < Laurenceb_> yup ULA employee just got fired 2016-03-17T01:40:39 < dongs> http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/03/15/160315111941769159.jpg 2016-03-17T01:41:12 < Laurenceb_> whyyy why would you run linux on an autopilot 2016-03-17T01:41:28 < Laurenceb_> I mean I run linux on my pc and I think thats mad 2016-03-17T01:43:29 < kakimir> dongs: jst-gh? 2016-03-17T01:49:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T01:50:56 < kakimir> calculations say that my circuit without leakage of charger, lipo or mlccs would power up rtc for 2000days 2016-03-17T01:51:04 < kakimir> with 100mAh lipo 2016-03-17T01:51:41 < kakimir> and then.. you recharge it 2016-03-17T01:54:14 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T01:54:47 < kakimir> shiet 2016-03-17T01:55:15 < kakimir> the charger leaks more than the thing itself consumes + lipo dischargers 2016-03-17T01:56:09 < kakimir> it leaks mad 2016-03-17T01:56:14 < kakimir> -5.5µA 2016-03-17T01:56:17 < kakimir> typical 2016-03-17T01:58:50 < kakimir> but there is positive values like 0.25µA for Vdd floating 2016-03-17T01:59:14 < kakimir> 0.15µA for Vdd< Vstop 2016-03-17T02:01:05 < kakimir> meaning shutdown 2016-03-17T02:02:48 < kakimir> maybe negative means that transistor actually leaks current to battery 2016-03-17T02:04:13 < kakimir> okay I get 1000days now everything but mlccs calculated 2016-03-17T02:04:39 < kakimir> 10days for 1mAh 2016-03-17T02:05:11 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T02:05:28 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-17T02:05:30 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T02:06:05 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-17T02:07:42 < lorenzo> http://hforsten.com/img/diy-bga/3reflow_oven.jpg 2016-03-17T02:07:44 < kakimir> I don't know how much small cells leak 2016-03-17T02:07:46 < lorenzo> so it's a trend now 2016-03-17T02:07:55 < lorenzo> cheap oven, cheap ssr, cheap pid controller 2016-03-17T02:07:55 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T02:08:06 < kakimir> ghetto is real 2016-03-17T02:08:51 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T02:09:53 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZgiK6FiO0 2016-03-17T02:10:04 < kakimir> musicspams 2016-03-17T02:11:56 < englishman> lorenzo: the one i got isnt even pid 2016-03-17T02:12:02 < englishman> since, i mean, the thermal mass inside doesnt change often 2016-03-17T02:12:20 < englishman> so it just learns how to best pwm the elements to keep it on the desired curve 2016-03-17T02:12:33 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5ED26F32.cm-7-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T02:12:38 < englishman> works super grate 2016-03-17T02:13:17 < lorenzo> englishman: I think for most of these applications a window comparator with a large enough hysteresis window is fine 2016-03-17T02:13:27 < lorenzo> aka: an if 2016-03-17T02:13:38 < englishman> yeah pretty much 2016-03-17T02:13:40 < englishman> no need for pid 2016-03-17T02:13:50 < englishman> i was going to control furnace the same way 2016-03-17T02:14:00 < englishman> wood burning 2016-03-17T02:16:58 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-17T02:16:58 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T02:22:44 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-17T02:22:57 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T02:23:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/headset/ 2016-03-17T02:23:21 < dongs> good luck, jews 2016-03-17T02:24:13 < englishman> arent there single chip solutions to this 2016-03-17T02:24:29 < dongs> yes, that uhh CSR or wahtever thing. 2016-03-17T02:24:35 < dongs> but not for $250 inclusive prototype 2016-03-17T02:24:43 < kakimir> dongs: mossad ear piece? 2016-03-17T02:24:59 < englishman> buy $15 headset on amazon, take apart, submit as prototype 2016-03-17T02:25:43 < englishman> not bad weekend job for someoen 14-17 who wants money to buy pokemons 2016-03-17T02:26:33 < dongs> o shit good idea 2016-03-17T02:28:21 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-17T02:32:53 < ohsix> this and fonts? 2016-03-17T02:36:58 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T02:37:28 < kakimir> because they fucked up 2016-03-17T02:37:58 < kakimir> are you running some legacy software? 2016-03-17T02:39:02 < kakimir> they did funny thing they based those software around certain dpi or so 2016-03-17T02:39:53 < kakimir> and bitmap fonts 2016-03-17T02:40:38 < kakimir> so scalling ruins it no matter what 2016-03-17T02:41:00 < ohsix> bitmap uber alles 2016-03-17T02:41:26 < kakimir> dongs: search with "dpi" in start menu 2016-03-17T02:42:19 < kakimir> then scale application size from 125 or 150% back to 100% 2016-03-17T02:42:52 < ohsix> can you edit the font fallback/substitution stuff on windows like you can with fontconfig? 2016-03-17T02:44:21 < ohsix> i think they just stopped trying to be clever for not directwrite or direct2d applications 2016-03-17T02:44:34 < kakimir> can you config anything in win10? 2016-03-17T02:44:39 < kakimir> change some colors 2016-03-17T02:44:44 < kakimir> that's about it 2016-03-17T02:45:05 < kakimir> you cant even add your own apps to start meny 2016-03-17T02:45:33 < kakimir> you are in propiertary control zone 2016-03-17T02:46:12 < kakimir> you cant add your own shortcuts to startmenu 2016-03-17T02:46:17 < kakimir> only faggot tiles 2016-03-17T02:46:50 < kakimir> you know him? 2016-03-17T02:48:22 < ohsix> erh heh 2016-03-17T02:48:40 < ohsix> looks like it's the same crap as anything in the past since 95 to add something to the 'start menu' https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh127425(v=vs.85).aspx 2016-03-17T02:49:30 < kakimir> I have 125% 2016-03-17T02:49:54 < kakimir> because.. 100% in this 13" screen 2016-03-17T02:50:08 < kakimir> impossible 2016-03-17T02:50:41 < kakimir> I have 10 2016-03-17T02:51:30 < kakimir> it seems everything butt 125% also kinda ruins fonts and stuff 2016-03-17T02:52:07 < kakimir> maybe it requires some windows reboot magic to load some different dpi fonts and stuff 2016-03-17T02:52:38 < kakimir> if it's just kind of crappy preview 2016-03-17T02:52:40 < fenugrec> has anyone seen a cheap pcb like this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/.../2019022425.html but with an F072 ? like a f072disco, only even cheaper ? 2016-03-17T02:55:43 < kakimir> that is how gay windows is.. every change requires reboot 2016-03-17T02:56:13 < kakimir> it cant reconfigure on fly 2016-03-17T02:56:48 < ohsix> you can but why bother knowing how for $randomshit 2016-03-17T02:57:03 < kakimir> there is no way to 100% b usable for me 2016-03-17T02:57:10 < kakimir> and 150% is granny mode 2016-03-17T02:58:27 < ohsix> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/215584-j-display-demos-first-17-3-inch-8k-panel hurr watts per frame 2016-03-17T03:00:45 < kakimir> it's getting ridicoulous 2016-03-17T03:02:57 < kakimir> I just got to 1080p minimum on all my displays 2016-03-17T03:04:33 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has quit [Quit: x] 2016-03-17T03:05:22 < kakimir> if it's the old api 2016-03-17T03:05:31 < kakimir> it blurs the shiet 2016-03-17T03:06:07 < kakimir> 100% should show old apps as they were in windows xp 2016-03-17T03:06:09 < kakimir> or so 2016-03-17T03:06:46 < kakimir> everything should work 2016-03-17T03:07:51 < ohsix> it's a ratio 2016-03-17T03:08:10 < ohsix> it doesn't even imply some things will be scaled (like a bitmap which might be not point filtered) 2016-03-17T03:10:18 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T03:15:16 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-17T03:15:42 < kakimir> everything looks quite okay in every setting 2016-03-17T03:16:02 < kakimir> blur becomes obivious with old api at 150% 2016-03-17T03:28:56 < dongs> fuck you di.fm 2016-03-17T03:29:14 < dongs> when I click on something that doesnt say VOCAL in it I dont want to hear any dudes singing 2016-03-17T03:29:17 < dongs> period 2016-03-17T03:29:41 < ohsix> music outside of the vocal genre will have vocals in it sometimes brooooooooo 2016-03-17T03:32:06 < jadew> tried to repair my old LCD again... I failed 2016-03-17T03:32:32 < jadew> I think it's the CCFLs and I don't know where to buy new ones 2016-03-17T03:33:29 < jadew> one of the voltage sense resistors is heating up quite a bit (3 MOhm resistor) 2016-03-17T03:33:46 < jadew> so I assume that the CCFL it's measuring from isn't turning on 2016-03-17T03:33:56 < jadew> so the voltage remains very high 2016-03-17T03:34:25 < jadew> crt, I don't feel like waiting a month 2016-03-17T03:34:53 < jadew> I'll just buy 3 new ones and hope for the best 2016-03-17T03:35:18 < jadew> looks like Philips and Dell (the mid-range monitors) have shitty panels - not sure if I mentioned that before 2016-03-17T03:36:04 < jadew> R2COM, they have mid-range monitors too 2016-03-17T03:36:29 < jadew> at ~$300-$400 2016-03-17T03:36:48 < jadew> that would be mid-range no? 2016-03-17T03:37:00 < jadew> what's pleb? 2016-03-17T03:37:20 < ohsix> that is mid range 2016-03-17T03:37:49 < jadew> crt, nice 2016-03-17T03:38:11 < jadew> I don't know if I'll be able to go larger than 24" 2016-03-17T03:38:54 < jadew> that's nice 2016-03-17T03:39:06 < Laurenceb_> oh dear http://d3hp9ud7yvwzy0.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/devices.png 2016-03-17T03:39:09 < jadew> last thing I got from work was a t-shirt 2016-03-17T03:39:12 < Laurenceb_> main qt page 2016-03-17T03:39:13 < jadew> 7 years ago or so 2016-03-17T03:40:07 < Laurenceb_> will be if i can steal the source code :P 2016-03-17T03:40:14 < Laurenceb_> unless its a pure mock up 2016-03-17T03:40:41 < ohsix> pure cock up 2016-03-17T03:40:46 < ohsix> gents 2016-03-17T03:42:40 < dongs> autism6: while you were assburgering, keil released free mdk for cortex-m0/m0+ 2016-03-17T03:42:45 < dongs> so you have no excuse to ever use gcc 2016-03-17T03:42:54 < ohsix> you told me that already 2016-03-17T03:43:20 < dongs> just reinforcing 2016-03-17T03:43:39 < ohsix> i didn't set up that computer yet either 2016-03-17T03:44:07 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-17T03:44:27 < jadew> dongs, is gcc that bad compared to keil's compiler? 2016-03-17T03:44:52 < ohsix> no 2016-03-17T03:45:01 < Laurenceb_> gcc is about as good now 2016-03-17T03:45:01 < ohsix> requires a lot less setup/effor tho 2016-03-17T03:45:13 < Laurenceb_> it was better than IAR last year when I tested 2016-03-17T03:45:34 < ohsix> me being lazy is more of a problem of keil or not 2016-03-17T03:45:38 < Laurenceb_> barely better 2016-03-17T03:45:42 < Laurenceb_> there isnt much in it 2016-03-17T03:45:59 < Laurenceb_> about 4 years ago GCC was a long way off almost all the commercial compilers 2016-03-17T03:46:09 < ohsix> [citation needed] 2016-03-17T03:46:19 < ohsix> mostly because gcc hasn't changed all that radically in 4 years 2016-03-17T03:46:19 < dongs> jadew: gcc still doesn't emit rev16 2016-03-17T03:46:25 < Laurenceb_> now its competitive, but ARM compiler is probably the best by a little margin 2016-03-17T03:46:25 < dongs> and its optimizer still sucks compared to keil 2016-03-17T03:46:44 < Laurenceb_> use inline asm 2016-03-17T03:46:50 < Laurenceb_> for rev16 2016-03-17T03:46:53 < dongs> ... 2016-03-17T03:47:01 < dongs> you dont use inline asm in keil, for exactly that reason 2016-03-17T03:47:05 < dongs> that you dont NEED TO 2016-03-17T03:47:10 < dongs> its smarter than you think you are. 2016-03-17T03:47:24 < ohsix> what does keil use rev16 for 2016-03-17T03:48:07 < dongs> uint8_t ff[2]; uint16_t foo = ff[0] << 8 | ff[1] type stuff. 2016-03-17T03:48:10 < ohsix> it's a bit hard to talk about this stuff in terms of 'better', gcc could be making a better decision that leaves no use for rev16, keil could be doing something simpler that just preferse changing words around 2016-03-17T03:48:13 < ohsix> right 2016-03-17T03:49:40 < Laurenceb_> http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj_1M6GzcbLAhWBYw8KHcHxDV4QFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fraisonance.com%2Ftzr%2Fscripts%2Fdownloader2.php%3Ffilename%3DT020%2Fmedia%2F07%2Fc9%2F1kmm1akx6gr%26mime%3Dapplication%2Fpdf%26originalname%3DAN0052-ARM-C-Benchmark.pdf&usg=AFQjCNG1O24-SYzJyTl0nKmwyQqlABc18A&cad=rja 2016-03-17T03:49:45 < Laurenceb_> shit google 2016-03-17T03:50:35 < Laurenceb_> GCC is competitive in 2013, its improved since then 2016-03-17T03:50:44 < Laurenceb_> as long as you avoid printf aids 2016-03-17T03:50:47 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T03:51:01 < fenugrec> gcc still has a bug in C11 atomics on M0 IIRC 2016-03-17T03:53:24 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-17T03:53:27 < dongs> luckily nobody should be using that shit on embedded 2016-03-17T03:53:59 < fenugrec> some RTOS might use atomics. 2016-03-17T03:54:14 < ohsix> they have the runtime support for anything c++ on those targets? 2016-03-17T03:54:23 < ohsix> that's a big chunk of libstdc++ 2016-03-17T03:54:25 < fenugrec> esp. on M0, no bit banding, no strex/ldrex 2016-03-17T03:54:32 < fenugrec> atomics != c++ 2016-03-17T03:54:33 < dongs> oh youre not talking std::atomic trash? 2016-03-17T03:54:36 < ohsix> or equiv from newlib 2016-03-17T03:54:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T03:54:45 < ohsix> oh you said c11, i misread 2016-03-17T03:54:55 < fenugrec> no no no. basic atomic variables, test_and_set, etc 2016-03-17T03:55:01 < ohsix> right 2016-03-17T03:55:10 < ohsix> there's a memory model in c11 too isn't there 2016-03-17T03:55:15 < dongs> crazy fucktards do use c++11 and std 2016-03-17T03:55:28 < dongs> liek assholeware 2016-03-17T03:55:31 < fenugrec> c++11 && std on embedded ? nobody does that 2016-03-17T03:55:36 < fenugrec> well not on baremetal 2016-03-17T03:55:40 < fenugrec> I hope? 2016-03-17T03:55:55 < ohsix> they do -fno-rtti and shit too olol 2016-03-17T03:55:58 < dongs> on LPC7168 2016-03-17T03:56:05 < dongs> or 1768 whatever 2016-03-17T03:56:06 < ohsix> there's probably people doing it where it doesn't matter 2016-03-17T03:56:15 < ohsix> if you had a meg or two of flash 2016-03-17T03:56:41 < fenugrec> anyway, last time I checked, gcc emitted a ldr.b + str.b for atomic_test_and_set, with no interupt disable : ( 2016-03-17T03:57:02 < ohsix> weird 2016-03-17T03:57:09 < ohsix> doesn't anything armv6+ have test and set 2016-03-17T03:57:18 < fenugrec> not M0 ! 2016-03-17T03:57:21 < fenugrec> M0+ maybe ? 2016-03-17T03:57:25 < jadew> most of the std:: stuff shouldn't eat too much space (flash or RAM) 2016-03-17T03:57:28 < dongs> fenugrec: err, isnt there a single instruction for this? or is that not on m0 2016-03-17T03:57:31 < ohsix> gcc being unreadable makes it hard to just answer these questions 2016-03-17T03:57:33 < dongs> ldrsomethignw 2016-03-17T03:57:38 < dongs> cmsis has intrinsics for it 2016-03-17T03:57:44 < fenugrec> dongs , yeah no, probably > M0 2016-03-17T03:57:45 < dongs> if thats what you want,m you should use that stuff 2016-03-17T03:57:46 < jadew> I never used it, but most things have a very low fingerprint 2016-03-17T03:57:49 < dongs> instead of hoping compiler to doi t 2016-03-17T03:57:53 < jadew> *small 2016-03-17T03:58:42 < ohsix> there's a ldrex/strex thing that can work with multicore junk 2016-03-17T03:59:13 < dongs> fenugrec: https://github.com/Smoothieware/Smoothieware/blob/edge/src/libs/ConfigCache.cpp c++11 on embedded 2016-03-17T03:59:20 < ohsix> i thought there was a literal test and set instruction in v6+, still looking 2016-03-17T03:59:48 < fenugrec> ohsix if you find one, please tell me - I thought I had checked pretty thoroughly, but maybe I missed it somehow ! 2016-03-17T04:00:04 < ohsix> dongs: hurr auto is neat ;D 2016-03-17T04:00:08 < dongs> not at all 2016-03-17T04:00:14 < dongs> it breeds laziness 2016-03-17T04:00:19 < dongs> and leads to shit code 2016-03-17T04:00:23 < dongs> like 90% of assholeware 2016-03-17T04:00:31 < dongs> its like in C++ for zero reasons 2016-03-17T04:00:37 < ohsix> but it also doesn't matter / generate lots of code, which is rare for c++ 2016-03-17T04:00:40 < jadew> nah, there are reasons 2016-03-17T04:00:51 < dongs> no legit re asons 2016-03-17T04:00:56 < ohsix> it's the same type of thing oyu might get with __typeof(foo) bar 2016-03-17T04:01:06 < jadew> when you have lots of nested template parameters only to finaly say ::iterator 2016-03-17T04:01:11 < fenugrec> (borderline spamming here), but - who sells cheap-as-dirt F072 boards ? cheaper than F072 disco ? 2016-03-17T04:01:29 < dongs> er, how ch eap do you want it? 2016-03-17T04:01:33 < dongs> disco is pretty cheap 2016-03-17T04:01:35 < ohsix> you do! :D i don't know if there are any ebay clonws or anything in the wild 2016-03-17T04:01:39 < dongs> is there a small 072 nucleo? 2016-03-17T04:01:51 < fenugrec> dongs nucleo is roughly same price as disco, 10-15$ 2016-03-17T04:01:54 < dongs> http://www.st-japan.co.jp/web/catalog/tools/FM116/CL1620/SC959/SS1532/LN1847/PF260003 2016-03-17T04:02:00 < jadew> std::list< std::pair >::iterator 2016-03-17T04:02:05 < jadew> yeah, I'd rather type auto 2016-03-17T04:02:10 < fenugrec> I was hoping for a cheapass 3-4-5-ish board with no SWD maybe 2016-03-17T04:02:27 < fenugrec> do stm32's even get cloned or are they cheap enough as-is ? 2016-03-17T04:02:45 < ohsix> the f103 clone i have is from the maple or something, 3.50$ usd on ebay 2016-03-17T04:02:59 < ohsix> just breaks out the lqfp with a button and some other stuff to a dip package 2016-03-17T04:03:02 < fenugrec> ohsix yep seen that one, good candidate, but I want F072 on there ! 2016-03-17T04:03:21 < ohsix> right 2016-03-17T04:03:22 < dongs> buy it 2016-03-17T04:03:23 < dongs> buy 072 2016-03-17T04:03:25 < dongs> solder. 2016-03-17T04:03:32 < dongs> it might be / is pin compatible 2016-03-17T04:03:34 < ohsix> you could swap, the pinout is probably almost the same 2016-03-17T04:03:35 < fenugrec> + make PCB + order PCB + etc 2016-03-17T04:03:40 < fenugrec> oooh now that's cocky 2016-03-17T04:03:43 < ohsix> ask the people that sell th em if they'll put f072's on it 2016-03-17T04:04:16 < fenugrec> also a reasonable idea. So ok, there isn't already something obvious available 2016-03-17T04:04:49 < ohsix> https://github.com/ivmai/libatomic_ops/blob/master/src/atomic_ops/sysdeps/gcc/arm.h 2016-03-17T04:04:59 < ohsix> not that i've seen 2016-03-17T04:05:09 < ohsix> cheaptown is basically the f103, it's in everything 2016-03-17T04:05:27 < ohsix> stm8 parts are like a dollar on a little dip board on ebay tho, if you can manage with one of those 2016-03-17T04:05:27 < fenugrec> yeah too bad it doesn't do USB + CAN 2016-03-17T04:05:53 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-17T04:06:03 < dongs> does 072 usb+can at same time? 2016-03-17T04:06:15 < ohsix> usb/can overlaps on the same pins on a lot of parts doesn't it 2016-03-17T04:06:25 < dongs> cuz f1 doesnt. 2016-03-17T04:06:40 < dongs> no, it has alternative function but the periperals share ram 2016-03-17T04:06:40 < fenugrec> F072 does. You split the PMA buffer as you wish, F1 is "pick one" 2016-03-17T04:06:44 < dongs> ok 2016-03-17T04:07:05 < ohsix> cube sux but it also has a parametric search thing that will tell you exactly wat parts you could use, might get lucky and there will be a clone of that one 2016-03-17T04:07:15 < fenugrec> good call on the pinout, it's identical except 2-3 pins 2016-03-17T04:07:50 < ohsix> what's the usb on the f072, device, host full/high speed? 2016-03-17T04:08:00 < fenugrec> slightly different VDDA pin though, I'll have to check this. F072 USB = device FS only 2016-03-17T04:09:22 < ohsix> f042, f103, f302/303/373 all have can/usb 2016-03-17T04:09:39 < fenugrec> F042 = less mem, F103 = non simultaneous, F3 = more $ possibly ? 2016-03-17T04:09:48 < ohsix> $ definitely 2016-03-17T04:10:08 < dongs> HUGE DISCOUNT ON PFIZER 2016-03-17T04:11:11 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T04:11:30 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:11:43 < ohsix> once you get to the nucleo boards they're all pretty much 22-25$USD 2016-03-17T04:12:17 < fenug_> I guess >50 wireless connections isn't enough to have a reliable IRC connection... http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=439b0af 2016-03-17T04:14:16 < ohsix> still xp huh 2016-03-17T04:14:21 < dongs> another fucking tune ruined by vocals 2016-03-17T04:14:24 < dongs> FUCK DI.FM; DI.FM SUX; DI.FM IS DYING; DI.FM IS DEAD TO ME; DI.FM HIT WTC 2016-03-17T04:14:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:14:55 < ohsix> man i was an idiot and held out way way way too long on xp, all the stuff i thought i'd lose or whatever by going to 7 didn't matter; and everything i 'learned' and was retarded on xp was obsoleeet 2016-03-17T04:15:16 < upgrdman> how do i mirror a symbol in altium (not rotate) 2016-03-17T04:15:28 < ohsix> flip? 2016-03-17T04:15:42 < jadew> try X or Y 2016-03-17T04:16:00 < ohsix> yea that 2016-03-17T04:16:11 < ohsix> i don't know altium but ij ust checked a key combo ref 2016-03-17T04:16:25 < dongs> upgrdman: drag it and x/y yeah. 2016-03-17T04:16:35 < upgrdman> ahh i had to drag first. 2016-03-17T04:16:38 < upgrdman> thx 2016-03-17T04:16:53 < ohsix> why drag first, to select it without opening any context stuff? 2016-03-17T04:16:55 < dongs> what version of altium is chan running 2016-03-17T04:17:03 < englishman> 16.0.8 2016-03-17T04:17:03 < dongs> china, rather 2016-03-17T04:17:10 < englishman> summer 07 2016-03-17T04:17:17 < dongs> more like protel99 2016-03-17T04:17:21 < upgrdman> im on 16.0.8 2016-03-17T04:17:22 < dongs> speakingf .08 i should move that iso 2016-03-17T04:17:34 < englishman> 16.0.8 is great 2016-03-17T04:17:40 < upgrdman> but im using a legit version 2016-03-17T04:17:47 < englishman> so am i 2016-03-17T04:17:51 < upgrdman> not sure why china dvd is 2016-03-17T04:18:01 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T04:18:05 < dongs> china dvd? 2016-03-17T04:18:15 < ohsix> does it go by year? 2016-03-17T04:18:20 < ohsix> i've got 15 2016-03-17T04:18:20 < upgrdman> street vendors of torrented shit 2016-03-17T04:18:31 < ohsix> more like CRAXED BY RUBOARD 2016-03-17T04:19:01 < ohsix> did they stop using firefox 4 for the ui 2016-03-17T04:19:19 < ohsix> in 16 2016-03-17T04:19:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: fenug_, emeb, XTL, rene-dev, nikomo, dekar 2016-03-17T04:23:44 < dongs> englishman: did you check of 072 can USB DFU wiht 24mhz xtal? 2016-03-17T04:23:59 < englishman> memory sez yes 2016-03-17T04:24:09 < englishman> but i dont trust my memory, i trust the datasheet 2016-03-17T04:24:25 < dongs> top side of that shit finally heading to oven 2016-03-17T04:24:31 < dongs> and sending today wiht rest of doges 2016-03-17T04:24:44 < englishman> oh shit i thought it got sent monday :'( 2016-03-17T04:24:53 < dongs> no thats just doges + pcb 2016-03-17T04:24:55 < englishman> ok 2016-03-17T04:25:00 < dongs> and I forgot dogefc stencil, will send that too 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:14 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:25:17 < ohsix> if you don't know about the firefox altium thing, put about:mozilla in the location bar 2016-03-17T04:25:19 < dongs> i was assburgering like crazy 2016-03-17T04:25:38 < ohsix> doing wat 2016-03-17T04:25:43 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-03-17T04:25:52 < dongs> chatting with autism6 2016-03-17T04:25:52 < ohsix> did you do fpv rc car yet, or diy taiko no tatsujin controller 2016-03-17T04:25:59 < englishman> too much innovation cant keep track 2016-03-17T04:26:46 < ohsix> heh about:memory actually works 2016-03-17T04:27:22 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T04:28:40 < fenug_> ohsix : that link on GH you posted erlier (atomic_ops/...arm.h), I'm not sure where M0 fits in there, but I opened the stm32 M0 prog manual (PM0215) and there's no ldrex/strex. Which seems to be the basis for most of the stuff in that header 2016-03-17T04:29:09 < ohsix> fenug_: that's just what i cross reference when looking at this thing, didn't look at m0, got sidetracked 2016-03-17T04:29:17 < ohsix> there's also the memory barrier thing and swp 2016-03-17T04:29:28 < fenug_> ohsix oh ok. I thought you saw something specific 2016-03-17T04:29:42 -!- fenug_ is now known as fenugrec 2016-03-17T04:29:46 < ohsix> from what i remember of chatter about libatomic_ops is that atomicops didn't work on v6 due to no instructions to do it, it is sort of faked in an optimistic way that sometimes breaks 2016-03-17T04:30:05 < fenugrec> (sweet netsplit, guess 50 connections isn't enough http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=439b0af ) 2016-03-17T04:31:01 < fenugrec> well it's ugly, but doing a (save + disable, X, restore) interrupts should be pretty bulletproof ? 2016-03-17T04:31:16 < ohsix> m0 does have dmb 2016-03-17T04:31:17 < fenugrec> so yeah, faked, but I don't see why it should break 2016-03-17T04:33:50 < dongs> i need to innovate this LIS3MDL thing 2016-03-17T04:34:24 < dongs> upgrdman: http://i.imgur.com/mVRp7uC.gifv 2016-03-17T04:34:36 < upgrdman> is that sfw 2016-03-17T04:34:48 < dongs> sure 2016-03-17T04:35:12 < upgrdman> lol nice 2016-03-17T04:38:24 < jadew> I thought Thailand was poor 2016-03-17T04:38:43 < jadew> isn't that a mercedes? 2016-03-17T04:40:25 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T04:40:26 < jadew> anyway, in a normal world that train would have traveled at a much lower speed or there were barriers in place 2016-03-17T04:40:49 < jadew> someone should go to jail 2016-03-17T04:41:27 < jadew> whoever planned that route 2016-03-17T04:48:10 < Laurenceb_> what the heck 2016-03-17T04:48:19 < Laurenceb_> qt is trying to build for assdroid 2016-03-17T04:48:38 < Laurenceb_> how do i build target 2016-03-17T04:50:05 < upgrdman> what's a refdes for a relay? 2016-03-17T04:50:16 < upgrdman> cant be r :/ 2016-03-17T04:50:26 < ohsix> dongs: wat 3dml for 2016-03-17T04:54:34 < englishman> upgrdman: k, ry, rla 2016-03-17T04:54:37 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-17T04:54:49 < upgrdman> thx 2016-03-17T04:55:20 < ohsix> alriiiiiiiiiight 2016-03-17T04:57:41 < ohsix> heh some armv6's had a memory barrier thing in cp15 2016-03-17T04:58:27 < dongs> englishman: err what that combo do? 2016-03-17T04:58:57 < englishman> refdes'es in descending order of coolness 2016-03-17T04:59:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T05:00:21 < dongs> er what screen is that in? 2016-03-17T05:00:26 < dongs> io dont remember ever using r for anything 2016-03-17T05:00:29 < dongs> isnt that reports menu? 2016-03-17T05:01:01 < englishman> bro 2016-03-17T05:01:07 < englishman> its not hotkeys 2016-03-17T05:01:12 < englishman> its reference designators 2016-03-17T05:01:20 < englishman> drink moar tea 2016-03-17T05:01:46 < dongs> i guess i missed some context chats during split 2016-03-17T05:02:04 < dongs> < upgrdman> what's a refdes for a relay? 2016-03-17T05:02:06 < dongs> nvm 2016-03-17T05:02:09 < dongs> too stoned 2016-03-17T05:02:10 < ohsix> me 2 wtf are you talking about lewl 2016-03-17T05:02:20 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-17T05:05:18 < ohsix> http://www.aaton.com/cantar-x3/overview heh 2016-03-17T05:05:23 < ohsix> guess the price 2016-03-17T05:06:08 < dongs> tree fiddy 2016-03-17T05:06:08 < ReadError> 15,000 euro 2016-03-17T05:06:11 < dongs> is there a stm32 inside? 2016-03-17T05:06:16 < ohsix> probably 2016-03-17T05:06:29 < ohsix> ReadError: that's not a guess :[ also right on the nose 2016-03-17T05:06:53 < englishman> www.aaton.com took too long to respond. 2016-03-17T05:06:54 < ohsix> looks really weird, it's got angled ports and stuff all around the edges and stuff too 2016-03-17T05:07:06 < englishman> 15k eur doesnt buy a webhost 2016-03-17T05:07:47 < ohsix> dongs: i still wanna do something stupid with the 10 adc multiplexer whatevers in the f103 2016-03-17T05:08:36 < ohsix> aaton has a bunch of pcb pictures and stuff on their twitter but none of the processing board 2016-03-17T05:09:36 < ohsix> they don't look supercool like the nagras, they look like tryhards 2016-03-17T05:10:45 < upgrdman> what people 2016-03-17T05:10:48 < dongs> yeah they just walked it off 2016-03-17T05:10:51 < upgrdman> you mean the puree left over? 2016-03-17T05:12:03 < dongs> you should try it 2016-03-17T05:12:04 < ohsix> EVADE THE MAIN SHITS 2016-03-17T05:12:08 < ohsix> main screen turn on 2016-03-17T05:12:51 < ohsix> er at least the driver in that car is totally creamed 2016-03-17T05:15:28 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/KTftb1n.png 2016-03-17T05:15:29 < Laurenceb_> whyyyy 2016-03-17T05:15:52 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T05:16:11 < Laurenceb_> smelly dumb, assdroid scum 2016-03-17T05:18:54 < Laurenceb_> dunno, all those errors are assdroid related 2016-03-17T05:18:57 < ohsix> gl isn't gles ply 2016-03-17T05:19:27 < Laurenceb_> why is it running android headers 2016-03-17T05:19:38 < Laurenceb_> crt: thats a standard example 2016-03-17T05:19:44 < Laurenceb_> should compile out of the box 2016-03-17T05:19:51 < dongs> try windows 2016-03-17T05:20:55 < dongs> failing that post on freelancer.com 2016-03-17T05:21:25 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should post on freelancer for someone to write a GUI 2016-03-17T05:21:36 < Laurenceb_> as currently I'm failing epically 2016-03-17T05:21:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Smart-steering-wheel-with-digital/ 2016-03-17T05:22:43 < ohsix> what's the deal with freelancer 2016-03-17T05:22:52 < ohsix> is it funny or something, or are you looking for stuff 2016-03-17T05:22:56 < Laurenceb_> its latest source of trolling 2016-03-17T05:23:04 < Laurenceb_> after zano dieded 2016-03-17T05:23:04 < dongs> new zano 2016-03-17T05:24:16 < ohsix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2095825325/career-in-animation?ref=nav_search 2016-03-17T05:24:38 < ohsix> all sorts of animu projects that never get a single pledge 2016-03-17T05:26:10 < ohsix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/582516229/chris-chan-reborn 2016-03-17T05:26:49 < dongs> I mean, who can forget titles such as: 2016-03-17T05:26:50 < dongs> "A-U-T-I-S-M" ? 2016-03-17T05:27:01 < ohsix> yes 2016-03-17T05:27:05 < Laurenceb_> heh chris-chan 2016-03-17T05:27:07 < ohsix> check ED if you don't know who he is 2016-03-17T05:27:49 < Laurenceb_> yeah but atm I'm failing more than chris-chan 2016-03-17T05:29:11 < dongs> just need better autotune 2016-03-17T05:29:33 < ohsix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/faithintoart/anime-inspired-gospel-tracts 2016-03-17T05:30:15 < dongs> My name is Jessica Thomas, a Christian freelance illustrator and graphic designer. 2016-03-17T05:30:26 < dongs> is Christian part essential? 2016-03-17T05:30:28 < ohsix> it's weird how little jesuys stuff there actually is on kickstarter 2016-03-17T05:30:34 < ohsix> yes 2016-03-17T05:30:40 < ohsix> that's the whole thing 2016-03-17T05:31:25 < ohsix> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/451/979/eb063dc9f6c4efda6e2cf8bcffa8accf_original.jpg?v=1426553781&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=0999a7ab72cf9d18ab42b62e3885c416 2016-03-17T05:31:41 < ohsix> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/451/983/32bf1d930cd86cb6b3fb65662eda89b2_original.jpg?v=1426553814&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=7fb016a7a6dfeae242242b73efd5ec38 2016-03-17T05:32:25 < ohsix> that one was funded ~900$ 2016-03-17T05:32:29 < ohsix> SPEARS: The Gospel According to Britney 2016-03-17T05:33:01 < ohsix> most of the jesus stuff on kickstarter is by african americans 2016-03-17T05:33:39 < ohsix> haha wow there are some just asking for 20$ 2016-03-17T05:34:24 < ohsix> i was going to say, there's another report for that, but i think that was it 2016-03-17T05:34:38 < ohsix> shit 2016-03-17T05:34:46 < ohsix> i'm autopilot typing ##stm32 now 2016-03-17T05:35:36 < ReadError> are you enjoying ##stm32 ohsix? 2016-03-17T05:35:40 < ReadError> is it more your speed 2016-03-17T05:37:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.63.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T05:37:25 < dongs> only beat by win32 2016-03-17T05:37:56 < ohsix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1574553886/positive-plus-1-hiv-and-aids-dating-app 2016-03-17T05:38:18 < ohsix> zero pledged of 43k, 39 hours left 2016-03-17T05:38:45 < dongs> is "getting aids" one of reward tiers 2016-03-17T05:39:30 < ohsix> i'm only looking for titles 2016-03-17T05:39:49 < ohsix> Thank you for visiting the Pray for Japan documentary film Kickstarter page! Together we can not only honor the incredible real-life heroes of the Tohoku Tragedy, but build a movement that assures their efforts will never go forgotten. 2016-03-17T05:40:53 < ohsix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1151070463/preserving-holy-sites-in-the-middle-east 2016-03-17T05:40:59 < ohsix> k that was fun 2016-03-17T05:43:48 < dongs> what the shit 2016-03-17T05:47:55 < dongs> R2COM: its the channel 2016-03-17T05:47:59 < dongs> its making you assburger 2016-03-17T05:48:49 < dongs> in cadence.exe? 2016-03-17T05:49:14 < dongs> did you see gd32 pix 2016-03-17T05:50:03 < dongs> R2COM: http://zeptobars.com/en/read/GD32F103CBT6-mcm-serial-flash-Giga-Devices 2016-03-17T05:50:32 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-17T05:50:36 < dongs> giev your professional spacex eomployee opinion 2016-03-17T05:50:37 < ohsix> those were the samples he sent them 2016-03-17T05:50:44 < ohsix> also separate flash die 2016-03-17T05:50:46 < dongs> 9on hinalayout 2016-03-17T05:50:48 < dongs> errre 2016-03-17T05:50:51 < dongs> a nt fuckibnv type 2016-03-17T05:50:55 < dongs> with IR in fton fo keyboardf 2016-03-17T05:50:57 < ohsix> hiv 2016-03-17T05:52:02 < dongs> where's the cortex core? 2016-03-17T05:52:37 < dongs> i thought depending on license you dont get that kidna sores 2016-03-17T05:52:59 < dongs> you can scroll down you knoiw 2016-03-17T05:53:09 < dongs> to the lower layers pic 2016-03-17T05:57:00 < dongs> whats that? 2016-03-17T06:01:20 < dongs> china more pro than you 2016-03-17T06:04:55 < dongs> whats new at spacex 2016-03-17T06:05:00 < dongs> what kinda shit are you laying out now 2016-03-17T06:05:10 < dongs> still weird adc shit or whaever it was? 2016-03-17T06:05:59 < dongs> hardware analog lpf? 2016-03-17T06:06:15 < dongs> (because r+c is too big) 2016-03-17T06:07:44 < ohsix> one of you needs a longer nick 2016-03-17T06:08:12 < dongs> R2COM: yeah. and its soo shitty that you can even use it on lunix, beacuse its so shit the underlyiung OS doesnt matter at that point 2016-03-17T06:08:51 < dongs> awful 2016-03-17T06:09:24 < Laurenceb_> R2COM works at spacex?! 2016-03-17T06:09:37 < upgrdman> how do i edit the text in a altidongs schematic title block 2016-03-17T06:09:46 < upgrdman> like title/number/rev/drawn by 2016-03-17T06:09:53 < dongs> upgrdman: i just put a string there 2016-03-17T06:10:10 < upgrdman> dongs, sure. how 2016-03-17T06:10:14 < upgrdman> cant double click it 2016-03-17T06:10:23 < dongs> you dont. 2016-03-17T06:10:25 < upgrdman> and i only new give a fuck enough to do it properly 2016-03-17T06:10:26 < dongs> i mean. just. put. a .string there.' 2016-03-17T06:10:31 < dongs> p->s or wahtever 2016-03-17T06:10:32 < upgrdman> o 2016-03-17T06:10:34 < upgrdman> ok 2016-03-17T06:10:47 < dongs> R2PRO seems to be on top of thin gs 2016-03-17T06:11:13 < dongs> document options-?parameters is probly that 2016-03-17T06:12:15 < ohsix> heh vnc would be a nice cheat for per seat licenses 2016-03-17T06:12:16 < upgrdman> ya i edited doc ops > params, but the title block didnt update 2016-03-17T06:14:42 < dongs> ... 2016-03-17T06:14:47 < dongs> dont you have some better shit to do 2016-03-17T06:14:51 < dongs> who cares 2016-03-17T06:14:52 < dongs> its all shit 2016-03-17T06:14:56 < ohsix> wasn't there something like spacecad or something that would do pcbs 2016-03-17T06:15:11 < dongs> spacexcad 2016-03-17T06:15:13 < dongs> fork of kikecad 2016-03-17T06:15:35 < englishman> all you need is sharpie and construction paper 2016-03-17T06:16:00 < englishman> add an RPN calculator if you wanna be super pro 2016-03-17T06:16:43 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-17T06:16:45 < ohsix> me2 2016-03-17T06:16:47 < ohsix> so pro 2016-03-17T06:16:55 < englishman> cool i have fx-300ms 2016-03-17T06:17:02 < englishman> rpn is awful fuck hp 2016-03-17T06:17:06 < dongs> i havce calc.exe 2016-03-17T06:18:01 < ohsix> calc.exe can't touch a real calculator broooo 2016-03-17T06:18:10 < ohsix> even in sci mode it's basically a 4 operator calculator 2016-03-17T06:20:00 < englishman> calc.exe is alright for binary 2016-03-17T06:20:03 < englishman> and hex 2016-03-17T06:20:52 < Laurenceb_> anyone got any ideas how to install libgles2 on ubuntu 10.04lts? 2016-03-17T06:20:57 < dongs> what no its awful for that 2016-03-17T06:21:01 < Laurenceb_> can't ask on #ubuntu as they are autists 2016-03-17T06:21:09 < dongs> i made my own calc app for that kinda shit + simple calculations 2016-03-17T06:21:17 < dongs> calc.exe is just ok for doing shit like 7+5 and stuff 2016-03-17T06:21:21 < dongs> without trying ot think about ti 2016-03-17T06:21:21 < dongs> it 2016-03-17T06:21:42 < dongs> R2COM: needs permission 2016-03-17T06:22:16 < englishman> got link to dongscalc.exe 2016-03-17T06:22:41 < dongs> http://pbx.mine.nu/wincalc.exe i think 2016-03-17T06:23:00 < talsit> R2COM: enable history on that 2016-03-17T06:23:01 < englishman> wincalc.exe is not commonly downloaded and could be dangerous. 2016-03-17T06:23:12 < ohsix> you can get a thing from ti that literally is a first party emulation of their cas calculator 2016-03-17T06:23:30 < englishman> oh cool 2016-03-17T06:23:47 < dongs> englishman: it does 0b, 0x, 00 2016-03-17T06:23:51 < englishman> yes 2016-03-17T06:24:03 < dongs> and usual binary ops like &/^/| etc 2016-03-17T06:24:07 < dongs> handy 4 stuff 2016-03-17T06:24:12 < englishman> why octal 2016-03-17T06:24:24 < dongs> no reason 2016-03-17T06:24:28 < ohsix> hmmmmm ti seems to have gotten rid of the app 2016-03-17T06:24:33 < dongs> should probly remove next time i care to look at sores 2016-03-17T06:25:08 < englishman> 1/0 returns angry red dot and error 2016-03-17T06:25:15 < englishman> passes carltest 2016-03-17T06:25:42 < englishman> also no x so i cant accidentally close it 2016-03-17T06:25:55 < dongs> yeah i broke that part 2016-03-17T06:26:01 < dongs> i think onyl closes on esc inside text window 2016-03-17T06:26:03 < ohsix> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hp.primecalculator nm it was HP 2016-03-17T06:26:06 < dongs> i ignore WM_CLOSE or someshit 2016-03-17T06:26:13 < ohsix> this is super legit, even though it's just emulating the handheld CAS one 2016-03-17T06:26:14 < upgrdman> R2COM, here's a photo of those business cards that get shoved under my hotel room door: http://www.farrellf.com/temp/business_cards_cn.jpg 2016-03-17T06:26:25 < ohsix> i have the apk if anyone wants it 2016-03-17T06:26:43 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-17T06:26:49 < ohsix> the standalone calculator is like 160 2016-03-17T06:27:03 < dongs> 39 out of 42 reworked boards work 2016-03-17T06:27:03 < dongs> yay 2016-03-17T06:27:11 < ohsix> yea it just emulates the irl calculator 2016-03-17T06:27:34 < ohsix> http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/accessories-88342--1/hp-prime-graphing-calculator-p-g8x92aa-aba--1 2016-03-17T06:27:50 < ohsix> the touch screen stuff works 2016-03-17T06:28:10 < ohsix> the keypad/display has a vertical split on tablet, it's a little tough to use on a small phone, but anything near 5" should be ok 2016-03-17T06:32:00 < ohsix> http://i.imgur.com/WKNzued.png running on tablutt 2016-03-17T06:32:14 < ohsix> i don't use it much but it is the real deal 2016-03-17T06:36:03 < upgrdman> i didnt want some russian engineer trying to call them 2016-03-17T06:36:26 < ohsix> R2COM: most hp calculators do both, it's configurable 2016-03-17T06:36:41 < upgrdman> dont waste their time ;) 2016-03-17T06:36:41 < ohsix> sometime recently they made news about dumping rpn entirely though, might have been with that calculator 2016-03-17T06:37:56 < ohsix> looool casio is making a luxury wank basic calculator called the s100, 27000 yen 2016-03-17T06:38:20 < ohsix> 250$ 4 function calculator 2016-03-17T06:39:25 < ohsix> http://inventorspot.com/files/images/490x368xcasio-S100-04.jpg.pagespeed.ic.p-vI7N-BYz.jpg trump hyoooge 2016-03-17T06:40:07 < ohsix> apparently for the money you get laptop like keys that stay square when you press them 2016-03-17T06:54:00 < ohsix> o/ 2016-03-17T06:54:25 < ohsix> i thought hp made some news with rpn recently, i think it was cancelling some calculator they've made for 30 years or something; the prime still does rpn 2016-03-17T06:56:20 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host31-51-19-107.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T06:56:26 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/GwGEbww.gifv 2016-03-17T06:57:14 < upgrdman> wtf do most of the altium symbols only have one possible footprint 2016-03-17T06:57:25 < upgrdman> like a cap, and there's only one footprint in the drop down lis 2016-03-17T06:57:56 < ohsix> if they had more what would they be 2016-03-17T06:58:06 < ohsix> jadew: hehehe i saw video of that german performance art 2016-03-17T06:58:42 < upgrdman> ohsix, smd 0402/0603/0805/etc, pth with various pin spacing... 2016-03-17T06:58:53 < ohsix> jadew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOB9avcSqpg 2016-03-17T06:59:14 < ohsix> upgrdman: oh 2016-03-17T06:59:29 < ohsix> don't you just use a regular 0402 pad and just call it C or R or Lsomething 2016-03-17T06:59:43 < jadew> lol ohsix 2016-03-17T07:00:12 < ohsix> the whole video was like 40 minutes, there's more weird stuff 2016-03-17T07:01:15 < upgrdman> dongs, is there some trick to get a proper list of footprints for altium resistors, capacitors, etc? 2016-03-17T07:01:31 < jadew> I wonder how the discussion sounds like when they're talking about the role with the actor 2016-03-17T07:02:37 < ohsix> heh easyeda stole the steam icon for the pcb autorouter 2016-03-17T07:02:38 < jadew> "- So... you have to wear a strap on and bang a metal dick on a pipe. What do you think? - Sounds like we have a deal!" 2016-03-17T07:05:08 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-17T07:08:05 < ohsix> fraps per second 2016-03-17T07:08:34 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z84STbSvI54 2016-03-17T07:10:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T07:15:03 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/dRQQJw6.gif 2016-03-17T07:17:22 < englishman> gif almost as old as romania itself 2016-03-17T07:21:55 < jadew> I don't browse imgur much, didn't know it's so great 2016-03-17T07:37:08 < ohsix> did you expect a meter instead 2016-03-17T07:39:49 < ohsix> anyone offhand know anything about das automobilez; like carburation and random mechanical poop 2016-03-17T07:55:41 -!- amstan_ [~alex@2601:647:4400:14e9:4ba1:2f24:2c87:d330] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-17T08:09:45 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-17T08:20:52 < dongs> upgrdman: define "list"? 2016-03-17T08:26:31 < upgrdman> nm figured it out 2016-03-17T08:26:39 < dongs> do tell 2016-03-17T08:26:42 < upgrdman> well 2016-03-17T08:26:57 < dongs> altium has no "default" footprints for anything 2016-03-17T08:27:02 < dongs> you should maintain local libraries with that stuff 2016-03-17T08:27:10 < dongs> and you can link them into projects etc 2016-03-17T08:27:15 < upgrdman> like if i add a capacitor to a schematic, there's only like 1 footprint possible 2016-03-17T08:27:36 < upgrdman> but i went to tools > assprint manager, and added footprints 2016-03-17T08:27:43 < upgrdman> which is stupid as fuck, but fine. 2016-03-17T08:27:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-f8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T08:28:15 < upgrdman> any idea why altium doesnt make the default symbols usable? 2016-03-17T08:28:30 < upgrdman> like why offer them if they're like that 2016-03-17T08:34:18 < dongs> what is default symbols? 2016-03-17T08:34:21 < dongs> it doesnt come wiht any 2016-03-17T08:34:41 < dongs> if you got a subscription you can pull the shit off the live.altium.com shit if you trust it to be bug-free 2016-03-17T08:44:49 < dongs> err 2016-03-17T08:44:54 < dongs> wait, upgrdman waht the fuck are you trying to do? 2016-03-17T08:45:11 < dongs> if you have a .pcbdoc / .schdoc with symbols and shit and no attached lib, you need to go to like tools->make sch/footprint library 2016-03-17T08:45:14 < dongs> or design->something 2016-03-17T08:45:16 < upgrdman> like make a schematic 2016-03-17T08:45:20 < upgrdman> place a capacitor 2016-03-17T08:45:30 < upgrdman> look at that cap's possible footprints... one 2016-03-17T08:45:35 < dongs> err. 2016-03-17T08:45:36 < dongs> i made that cap 2016-03-17T08:45:45 < dongs> so I know it has one footprint. 2016-03-17T08:45:53 < upgrdman> WHY the fuck should you have to "make" a passive 2016-03-17T08:46:02 < dongs> i have CAP0402 which is attached to SMT1005 footprint 2016-03-17T08:46:11 < upgrdman> lol 2016-03-17T08:46:13 < dongs> upgrdman: because I like consistency in my designs 2016-03-17T08:46:16 < upgrdman> ok 2016-03-17T08:46:31 < upgrdman> fair enough. but why doesnt altium :/ 2016-03-17T08:48:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-f8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-17T08:48:55 < dongs> donno 2016-03-17T08:49:10 < dongs> also default symbols (and shit in vault) has way too many retarded properties etc 2016-03-17T08:49:25 < dongs> all the libs I make are clean and organized just how I need them to be 2016-03-17T08:49:50 < dongs> upgrdman: did yo know? if you use "Value" property on say caps/resistors it doesn't get transferred to PCB layout? 2016-03-17T08:50:06 < dongs> so when you go make a picknplace or BOM from PCB, you can't get it to show the value 2016-03-17T08:50:27 < dongs> so if you use 'default' symbols with liek 90909 properties attached, they're acutally fucking useless once on pcb 2016-03-17T08:51:22 < dongs> ok i need to resolve a bunch of fail bbl 2016-03-17T08:55:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T08:57:44 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:82f:d501:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T08:59:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.19] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T08:59:53 < ohsix> i'm hot on the trail of whether avrfreak is dead or not 2016-03-17T09:01:34 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-17T09:01:54 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T09:05:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-17T09:24:00 < PeterM> [13:50] what's a refdes for a relay? i use SW, like for mechanical switches, because you know... 2016-03-17T09:27:36 < upgrdman> fair enough 2016-03-17T09:35:57 < zyp> I seem to recall K being used 2016-03-17T09:36:29 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-17T09:36:34 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_designator <- even wikipedia says K 2016-03-17T09:38:05 < PeterM> also [17:45] WHY the fuck should you have to "make" a passive - uhh because different passives can come in many different types, like inductors, coupled inductorss, transformers with multiple taps, resistors with multiple taps, resistors with kelvin connections, resistor networks, resistor packs, non inductive resistors, 2016-03-17T09:38:56 < ohsix> you might want the pads to go a certain distance under them for whatever reason 2016-03-17T09:39:03 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T09:39:21 < PeterM> ohsix, that was only in refrence to shematic symbol 2016-03-17T09:39:31 < PeterM> schematic evn 2016-03-17T09:40:03 < PeterM> for footprints theres even more reason to make your own 2016-03-17T09:40:11 < upgrdman> PeterM, i know there are specials ones, but come on. a simple fucking resistor. 2016-03-17T09:40:32 < upgrdman> anyway, whatever. i'm making a component. 2016-03-17T09:41:01 < upgrdman> if you have a x mm pin, how big should the hole be? 1.2x ? 2016-03-17T09:41:10 < ohsix> low inductance resistors/capacitors have the contacts on the long side :p 2016-03-17T09:43:14 < PeterM> upgrdman, depends on mfg specced tolerance and absolute pin size too, but 1.2x hole then pad 1.33x hole size 2016-03-17T09:43:53 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-17T09:44:29 < ohsix> doesn't altium have parametric stuff in the part builder, so you can make a footprint like that really easily 2016-03-17T09:44:46 < ohsix> a full 'library' might have like 400 parts or something 2016-03-17T09:46:38 < PeterM> i seperate up my librarys, like a lib for transistor footprints, a lib for ics, a lib for passives, otherwise you get fuckin huge libs because of all the 3d models and shit 2016-03-17T09:46:48 < PeterM> and also makes finding shit much easier 2016-03-17T09:47:33 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-17T09:49:21 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T10:09:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.19] has quit [] 2016-03-17T10:09:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.19] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T10:15:33 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-17T10:28:09 -!- s1ck [~s1ck@109.235.226.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-17T10:34:47 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T10:40:03 -!- s1ck [~s1ck@109.235.226.188] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T10:48:06 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-17T10:57:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-17T10:57:41 < qyx> a china girl offered me those lifepo cells for more than this tme.eu local seller 2016-03-17T11:00:03 < PeterM> qyx highly likely 2016-03-17T11:00:57 < PeterM> i can get them from a local seller for like $27aud ($18eur~) 2016-03-17T11:03:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T11:03:36 < PeterM> what did the chinagirl say hse could get them for? 2016-03-17T11:06:36 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-17T11:07:56 < upgrdman> what are those things called that contain a resistor and capacitor in series? i've seen them on the outputs of relays before. 2016-03-17T11:08:15 < upgrdman> im guessing to reduce sparking 2016-03-17T11:10:13 < PeterM> a snubber? 2016-03-17T11:10:16 < ohsix> i dunno one with resistor and cap, could be starter cap if it were an ac motor 2016-03-17T11:11:34 < PeterM> you either can put an r-c snubber accross the primary to reduce the inductive spike without the diode, or you can pout a snubber across the contacts to improve their lifespan http://i.imgur.com/bZ46FSi.png 2016-03-17T11:12:16 < PeterM> the first series resistor is probably not needed (it was only there for a certain HV application) 2016-03-17T11:16:42 < qyx> PeterM: $19 FOB for 10Ah cylindrical 2016-03-17T11:17:12 < qyx> $25 for 20Ah pouch cells 2016-03-17T11:17:16 < upgrdman> ya snubber 2016-03-17T11:17:25 < qyx> which is actually quite good 2016-03-17T11:17:47 < qyx> but still, 8Ah are for $12.50 on ev-power.eu 2016-03-17T11:17:53 < PeterM> imho thats pretty poor, as i said, i can buy them from a local seller and i live in bumbfuck nowhere australia for less 2016-03-17T11:17:59 < upgrdman> so how does that help switch contact? guessing the cap provides a decaying current when the contacts open, reducing arcing? 2016-03-17T11:18:51 < PeterM> upgrdman, yeah the cap provides a nice curtailed current draw as the contacts open, and the resistor stops the cap form welding the contacts closed 2016-03-17T11:19:06 < upgrdman> neat 2016-03-17T11:19:09 < upgrdman> thx 2016-03-17T11:19:26 < PeterM> also good for if you've got inductive loads 2016-03-17T11:22:09 < upgrdman> on a SPDT relay, is one snubber between common and one end fine, or is one needed for NC and one for NO ? 2016-03-17T11:22:35 < PeterM> just between c and hte other contact you're using 2016-03-17T11:22:50 < upgrdman> im using both NC and NO 2016-03-17T11:23:05 < PeterM> well then you need two 2016-03-17T11:23:08 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-17T11:26:03 < upgrdman> logical refdes? s? 2016-03-17T11:27:22 < PeterM> for relay, K, SW or even J 2016-03-17T11:29:36 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-17T11:31:03 < upgrdman> for snubber 2016-03-17T11:31:19 < upgrdman> also, htf do i do diagonal line in altidongs again 2016-03-17T11:31:27 < upgrdman> like ctrl or alt or some shit iirc 2016-03-17T11:32:28 < upgrdman> oh, space. nm 2016-03-17T11:43:47 < dongs> sup 2016-03-17T11:46:28 < dongs> what the fuck is this arccore shit from ST 2016-03-17T11:46:29 < mitrax> upgrdman: hey, completely unrelated, are you still happy with your surface pro 4? no quirks? 2016-03-17T11:47:03 < dongs> lol, POWERPC 2016-03-17T11:47:34 < upgrdman> mitrax, very happy with it. especially now that i use it when i travel 2016-03-17T11:47:46 < upgrdman> but there are quirks, especially with the cocking station 2016-03-17T11:47:54 < dongs> i have no problems with bro3 except the fucking single USB port 2016-03-17T11:47:56 < upgrdman> its much better than before, but not perfect 2016-03-17T11:48:01 < dongs> i would have updated to 4, but that was the showstopper 2016-03-17T11:48:11 < dongs> so i got a 4K toshiba 12" instead 2016-03-17T11:48:18 < mitrax> upgrdman: what kind of quirks? Displayport problems? 2016-03-17T11:48:25 < dongs> no, they fixed that luckily 2016-03-17T11:48:43 < mitrax> dongs: what model is that? 2016-03-17T11:48:44 < dongs> i think they release some bios update to fix the usb cockups too 2016-03-17T11:48:52 < upgrdman> well it cant reliably drive two 4K monitors, despite what the ms event supposedly demoed and promised 2016-03-17T11:49:07 < ohsix> i wonder why certain types of hardware / business segments stick with something like ppc or mips; is the automotive stuff because the processors are certified for something? 2016-03-17T11:49:07 < dongs> upgrdman: err, that wasnt gonna be possible over single DP anyway. 2016-03-17T11:49:20 < upgrdman> even ms tech support was like "popular consensus is dual 4k is unrealistic" 2016-03-17T11:49:23 < dongs> upgrdman: thats 40mbps of traffic 2016-03-17T11:49:26 < dongs> er gbps 2016-03-17T11:49:29 < dongs> 20gb/monitor 2016-03-17T11:49:33 < dongs> just doesnt happen 2016-03-17T11:49:37 < upgrdman> dongs, i know. but ms lied :) 2016-03-17T11:49:40 < ohsix> did they run off consensus after they released it and said it would do it 2016-03-17T11:49:41 < dongs> pffffft 2016-03-17T11:49:51 < upgrdman> it's fine, im not sure i would use dual 4k very often, but still kinda pissed. 2016-03-17T11:49:53 < ohsix> is that 20gb at 60hz or 30hz? 2016-03-17T11:50:08 < dongs> mitrax: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/radius-12/P25W-C2300-4K 2016-03-17T11:50:12 < upgrdman> anyway, got to go. be back tomorrow. 2016-03-17T11:50:24 < dongs> ohsix: 60. 2016-03-17T11:50:26 < dongs> 10gb @ 30. 2016-03-17T11:50:27 < dongs> so.. 2016-03-17T11:50:27 < mitrax> upgrdman: thx, bye 2016-03-17T11:50:30 < ohsix> i don't think anything does it yet, but dp can do subbuffer updates, worst case would be full frame but best case could be tiny 2016-03-17T11:50:37 < dongs> you probly could do 2 at 30hz. 2016-03-17T11:50:48 < ohsix> that's not super horrible 2016-03-17T11:50:54 < dongs> its awful 2016-03-17T11:51:04 < dongs> 30hz realyl fucks with you 2016-03-17T11:51:07 < dongs> the mouse feels laggy and shit 2016-03-17T11:51:16 < ohsix> compared to not working or what 2016-03-17T11:51:24 < mitrax> dongs: how sturdy is that? 2016-03-17T11:51:30 < ohsix> sure, you might decide not to use 2 in that case 2016-03-17T11:51:32 < upgrdman> ya 30hz is no good. but i could tolerate dual 4k30 for work. never for home use though. 2016-03-17T11:51:34 < dongs> mitrax: its a laptop. 2016-03-17T11:51:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-17T11:51:50 < dongs> with keyboard attached. 2016-03-17T11:51:55 < mitrax> dongs: i mean compared to the surface 2016-03-17T11:52:20 < dongs> i donno i dont feel like trying to bend both 2016-03-17T11:52:22 < ohsix> most things i do on my monitor which is 60hz are at way lower rates, 24/30/whatever 2016-03-17T11:52:40 < mitrax> ahaha 2016-03-17T11:52:48 < mitrax> ok i'm asking cause it's for a female friend who breaks everything... 2016-03-17T11:52:53 < dongs> the screen is definitely thin 2016-03-17T11:52:55 < mitrax> or well tends to 2016-03-17T11:53:00 < dongs> like 4mm or something 2016-03-17T11:53:04 < ohsix> so no clue on why some market segments still use powerpc, even guesses? 2016-03-17T11:53:09 < dongs> so opening/closing by edge, it does sorta flex. 2016-03-17T11:53:32 < mitrax> okay, won't be suited for her then 2016-03-17T11:53:34 < dongs> mitrax: chances are female friend doesnt need a 4K 12" screen either 2016-03-17T11:53:40 < dongs> just get a $300 netbook beater 2016-03-17T11:53:42 < dongs> 1280x800 2016-03-17T11:53:48 < dongs> enough to watch jewtube and scroll twitter 2016-03-17T11:54:05 < ohsix> i think mips is still used on routers and stuff cuz at that scale the arm licensing costs is large compared to chip cost 2016-03-17T11:54:29 < ohsix> no clue about powerpc tho 2016-03-17T11:55:00 < mitrax> well she has a pro 2 and wants to upgrade... but the pro 2 had issues with the keyboard & BT mouse regularly stopping for like 30 sec 2016-03-17T11:55:21 < ohsix> that's by design, you're supposed to go make tea 2016-03-17T11:55:24 < dongs> i havent had keyboard issues with bro3 2016-03-17T11:55:47 < dongs> the mouse utterly sucks tho 2016-03-17T11:55:54 < dongs> but thats probably true for any modern touchpad 2016-03-17T11:56:04 < dongs> i dont know how the fuck they do it, but they're all universally awful 2016-03-17T11:56:13 < ohsix> the big plate to click ones? 2016-03-17T11:56:16 < dongs> yes 2016-03-17T11:56:23 < dongs> on surface mouse tho 2016-03-17T11:56:25 < ohsix> it's so gestures aren't dumb 2016-03-17T11:56:29 < ohsix> rite 2016-03-17T11:56:32 < dongs> evne the CLICKY areas are still registering movement 2016-03-17T11:56:40 < dongs> so when you try to click on shit, it fucking moves the cursor from under it 2016-03-17T11:56:41 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T11:56:41 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-17T11:56:41 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T11:56:53 < dongs> gestu-whats? 2016-03-17T11:56:56 < ohsix> i like the touchpads that are massive and all move for click, but i haven't used them for a long time 2016-03-17T11:56:59 < dongs> i want shit to work 2016-03-17T11:57:13 < dongs> moving cursor + clicking = basic function of a touchpad 2016-03-17T11:57:15 < jpa-> dongs: on linux you can configure clicky areas not to cause movements :) 2016-03-17T11:57:17 < dongs> if it fails that, it can fuck off 2016-03-17T11:57:21 < dongs> jpa-: sorry to hear that 2016-03-17T11:57:30 < dongs> but I dont feel like recompiling kernel and editing X11.conf 2016-03-17T11:57:34 < dongs> for that to take effect 2016-03-17T11:57:36 < ohsix> you don't do that 2016-03-17T11:57:46 < jpa-> it's Xorg.conf nowadays and it's not where you would expect it to be 2016-03-17T11:57:56 < ohsix> you use xinput set-prop, but some program will probably do it for you already 2016-03-17T11:58:05 < jpa-> instead now you have bazillion files under /usr/share/Xorg and never know which overrides what 2016-03-17T11:58:59 < ohsix> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/kbzJpI55.html look at all that fancy stuff 2016-03-17T11:59:30 < dongs> Did you know that PayPal won't refund you if your money is stolen while buying a domain? 2016-03-17T11:59:34 < dongs> Escrow.com keeps your funds safe until the domain is in your account. 2016-03-17T11:59:36 < dongs> Register for free to access secure payments for your business. 2016-03-17T11:59:43 < dongs> how often does your money get stolen while buying a domain? 2016-03-17T11:59:53 < ohsix> ~all the synaptics touchpads do the same stuff, the driver and the ihv decides if there are scroll regions on the side and stuff 2016-03-17T12:00:42 < ohsix> now the OS / applications can listen for gestures and the driver doesn't have to try and make them up from touch points into movements or button presses 2016-03-17T12:01:11 < ohsix> dongs: that's probably saying something about paypals policy than any chance it might get stolen 2016-03-17T12:03:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-17T12:04:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T12:06:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-17T12:20:49 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:82f:d501:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T12:40:25 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:82f:d501:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T12:52:57 < karlp> anyone know a good site for package marking logos? or know what mark is like a cross made up of two infiniti symbols rotated? sort of like a 4 blade propeller? 2016-03-17T12:53:23 < dongs> could it be: parallax? (lol) 2016-03-17T12:53:48 < dongs> http://www.elnec.com/support/ic-logos/?method=logo 2016-03-17T12:54:12 < dongs> http://www.elnec.com/en/support/ic-logos/manufacturer-description/?manuf=Siemens+Microelectronics%2C+Inc. 2016-03-17T12:54:15 < dongs> this? 2016-03-17T12:54:26 < dongs> http://www.elnec.com/en/support/ic-logos/manufacturer-description/?manuf=Silicon+Laboratories 2016-03-17T12:54:29 < dongs> or this? silabs? 2016-03-17T12:55:17 < mitrax> could it be http://www.elnec.com/en/support/ic-logos/manufacturer-description/?manuf=General+Semiconductor ? 2016-03-17T12:56:03 < karlp> not parallax, just a smbj12a part, 2016-03-17T12:56:03 -!- jon__ [~jon@linkcareserv-141-178.fib.nerim.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T12:56:14 < karlp> package marking codes match diodes inc and vishay so far... 2016-03-17T12:56:19 * mitrax bookmarks that site 2016-03-17T12:56:29 < karlp> general semiconductor looks pretty spot on 2016-03-17T12:56:44 < karlp> excellent, great site, thanks dongs 2016-03-17T12:57:28 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T12:57:36 -!- akuma1 [~akuma@2a02:2028:82f:d501:222:15ff:fe53:b3c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-17T12:59:05 < dongs> ya vishay and IRF and onsemi all clone eacher other 2016-03-17T12:59:09 < dongs> same markings on diodes and shit 2016-03-17T12:59:14 < dongs> diodes, inc too 2016-03-17T12:59:37 < karlp> heh, general semi isn't on digikey, just as well, was never going to find it there :) 2016-03-17T13:00:04 < karlp> oh, it's a vishay brand. 2016-03-17T13:01:36 < PeterM> the semiconductor industry is very incestuous, like iceland? 2016-03-17T13:01:42 < PeterM> no wait... 2016-03-17T13:02:31 < PeterM> no, io think that may actaully be correct 2016-03-17T13:03:19 < karlp> so, those diodes have two lines of markings, "LE" which is listed in the datahseet as being the SMBJ12A vs SMBJ11A and so on, 2016-03-17T13:03:33 < karlp> is the number underneath then likely to be just manufucuture week or something? 2016-03-17T13:03:52 < PeterM> depenbds 2016-03-17T13:04:09 < PeterM> often you get current-votlage /10 2016-03-17T13:04:18 < PeterM> so 16 would be 1a 60v 2016-03-17T13:04:26 < PeterM> or 110 is 1a 100v 2016-03-17T13:04:46 < PeterM> 36 3amp 60v 2016-03-17T13:04:51 < PeterM> you get the idea 2016-03-17T13:05:14 < karlp> I'm trying to check whether these aprts were actually chaned between rev 200 and rev 300 from a partner, they're LE/36A/logo on one part, and LE/38A/logo on the next, 2016-03-17T13:05:32 < karlp> and there's no part number distinction in the vishay datasheet for current voltage rating differences that I can see, 2016-03-17T13:06:28 < PeterM> yeah, 80v rated diodes are pretty rare 2016-03-17T13:06:38 < PeterM> so id say datecode 2016-03-17T13:07:19 < karlp> yeahy, makes sense. the newer one has higher numbers for themall, and there's no indiciation form vishay on anything else, the "LE" is their listed marking code for smbj12a 2016-03-17T13:08:08 < karlp> ahh,: www.vishay.com/docs/88912/diodesgroupbodymarking.pdf 2016-03-17T13:08:12 -!- jon__ is now known as jon1012 2016-03-17T13:08:12 < karlp> separate doc :) 2016-03-17T13:08:36 < ohsix> re:powerpc in automotive junk,ya there's iso 26262 and asil ratings / certifications for them 2016-03-17T13:09:29 < karlp> yeahm, date code and factory designator 2016-03-17T13:41:30 < qyx> wtf, I cannot find a single high voltage schottky here 2016-03-17T13:45:58 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@89.190.50.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T13:46:10 < Sync_> murder a atx supply 2016-03-17T13:47:49 < qyx> I have, those are only 40V 2016-03-17T13:48:22 < Sync_> huh a lot of the things I have taken apart use a forward converter and have schottkys in the primary side 2016-03-17T13:49:17 < qyx> mhm, might be the case too 2016-03-17T13:49:37 < qyx> I just found a bag of some trash from a disassembled atx supplies 2016-03-17T13:50:00 < qyx> maybe I didn't consider them useful at that time 2016-03-17T13:52:47 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T14:00:57 < trepidacious> I need some l33t asm to take a uint16_t array of 12 bit values and make it into a uint8_t array with the top 8 bits of each 12 bit value... 2016-03-17T14:01:08 < trepidacious> I bet there's some amazing instruction that will basically just do that :) 2016-03-17T14:01:26 < dongs> why dont you just set your adc alignment that way 2016-03-17T14:01:57 < trepidacious> dongs: It's the image sensor again, it would be awesome if it had a proper 8 bit mode, but it doesn't... 2016-03-17T14:01:57 < dongs> or i am thinking dac, never mind 2016-03-17T14:02:05 < dongs> oh right 2016-03-17T14:02:17 < dongs> why d id you connect the low 4 bits 2016-03-17T14:02:20 < dongs> if you only need the top 8? 2016-03-17T14:02:24 < dongs> just reconnect it :) 2016-03-17T14:02:42 < dongs> data3->dcmi0, data4->dcmi1 etc 2016-03-17T14:03:07 < trepidacious> Heh yeah - I want 12 bit when I'm doing data reduction myself so I can do it quite quickly, but 8 bit when I want to stream full images to the super-slow ethernet :( 2016-03-17T14:03:28 < trepidacious> Also it would break the stupid sync codes, you need all the bits to see when the real image starts 2016-03-17T14:03:29 < jpa-> why do you need l33t asm? how much do you have to speed it up? 2016-03-17T14:03:47 < dongs> you just need a >>4 isnt it? 2016-03-17T14:03:51 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-17T14:04:10 < jpa-> you can do it in 32 bit blocks if you want, that will approx. double the speed 2016-03-17T14:04:11 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T14:04:20 < dongs> ragequit 2016-03-17T14:04:27 < jpa-> you were too sane 2016-03-17T14:04:38 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T14:05:04 < trepidacious> Back again - anything I try to paste into when running parallels crashes :( 2016-03-17T14:05:33 < trepidacious> I need to be about maybe 20-30% faster than my naive c: *dst = *src >> 4; dst++; src++; 2016-03-17T14:05:52 < trepidacious> I've got that written out 16 times, then looped 40 times to do 640 pixels in a line 2016-03-17T14:06:16 < trepidacious> It's a bit faster than just 640 times in a loop 2016-03-17T14:06:28 < jpa-> you can do it in 32 bit blocks if you want, that will approx. double the speed 2016-03-17T14:06:42 < trepidacious> jpa-: I was wondering about that... 2016-03-17T14:06:49 < trepidacious> jpa-: 32 bits in and out? 2016-03-17T14:07:03 < jpa-> yeah, load 2 words in and write 1 word out 2016-03-17T14:10:49 < jpa-> there isn't really anything like SSE shuffle in the cortex-m dsp instructions either 2016-03-17T14:11:09 < jpa-> the bitfield extract & insert instructions are the closest equivalent, and most c compilers use those automatically 2016-03-17T14:11:33 < dongs> have you looked at asm it generates? 2016-03-17T14:11:37 < dongs> maybe you need: keil 2016-03-17T14:11:38 < trepidacious> Not yet... 2016-03-17T14:11:47 < dongs> for REAL PRO 2016-03-17T14:11:51 < dongs> also: possibly a cpld 2016-03-17T14:11:59 < trepidacious> heh yeah, overkill :) 2016-03-17T14:12:09 < dongs> actually.. 2016-03-17T14:12:22 < dongs> something like 74hc157 2016-03-17T14:12:24 < dongs> but with more bits 2016-03-17T14:12:28 < dongs> A/B switch 2016-03-17T14:12:39 < trepidacious> If I'm ok with the bytes in the wrong order, I wonder whether it can be faster by shifting the 32 bit values and masking them, then ORing them together to make one 32 bit output. 2016-03-17T14:13:24 < trepidacious> It would do something like making the bytes alternate 2016-03-17T14:13:54 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T14:14:02 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/scds010k/scds010k.pdf 2016-03-17T14:14:04 < dongs> you can thank me later. 2016-03-17T14:14:39 < jpa-> trepidacious: you can do that and then fix the order with REV16 instructions 2016-03-17T14:14:47 < dongs> (which gcc cannot emit) 2016-03-17T14:15:10 < trepidacious> I'll have a look at that, but I don't mind fixing the order in software at the receiving end 2016-03-17T14:15:26 < dongs> but this will fix it with 0% cpu overhead 2016-03-17T14:15:46 < jpa-> but yeah, i guess if you want it fastest you might want to use gcc inline assembler to write your inner loop! 2016-03-17T14:16:06 < trepidacious> looks cool, but I'll only use it if it comes in a 0.1" DIP package that looks exactly like the pinout on page 1. 2016-03-17T14:17:10 < trepidacious> jpa-: I'll leave that one for after trying everything I can in c ;) 2016-03-17T14:17:31 < jpa-> rev16 has an instrinsic also i think 2016-03-17T14:19:24 < trepidacious> Dammit, now I have to think about endianness :( 2016-03-17T14:20:31 < jpa-> it's little :) 2016-03-17T14:20:57 < trepidacious> I think that means I can't use 32 bits and a simple shift? 2016-03-17T14:21:29 < jpa-> should work just fine, if your uint16 is also little-endian 2016-03-17T14:21:38 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T14:22:20 < jpa-> also remember to pun all the types and strict all the aliases 2016-03-17T14:24:24 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-17T14:25:04 < trepidacious> Ah yeah of course 2016-03-17T14:26:11 < zyp> this is just shifting 12-bit values packed in 16-bit uints? 2016-03-17T14:28:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T14:29:28 -!- jon1012 [~jon@linkcareserv-141-178.fib.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T14:29:35 < trepidacious> I keep thinking << uses the order as stored, but I guess for uint32_t it must be mangled to respect the endianness... 2016-03-17T14:29:38 < trepidacious> zyp: Yup 2016-03-17T14:29:58 < trepidacious> zyp: Well shifting them to lose the bottom 4 bits and end up with 8 bits 2016-03-17T14:30:55 < zyp> what has endianness to do with anything? 2016-03-17T14:31:16 < zyp> oh, right, so you need to pick ut every other byte as well 2016-03-17T14:31:26 < trepidacious> zyp: Not much, it just tells me which way round the two 16 bit pixels in a 32 bit pixel end up 2016-03-17T14:31:39 < trepidacious> zyp: I was thinking it mattered for the shift as well, but it doesn't 2016-03-17T14:53:20 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T14:53:44 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T14:54:59 < trepidacious> *dst = ((s1 >> 4) & 0x00FF00FF) | ((s2 << 4) & 0xFF00FF00) 2016-03-17T14:55:34 < trepidacious> Then I get pixels in order 0, 2, 1, 3 :) 2016-03-17T14:56:12 < trepidacious> Seems to be a bit faster, not twice but enough, maybe 20% 2016-03-17T14:56:17 < trepidacious> Thanks for help :) 2016-03-17T14:58:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-17T15:03:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.165] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T15:04:41 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T15:09:29 < dongs> sup 2016-03-17T15:09:46 < zyp> soup 2016-03-17T15:09:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-17T15:09:52 < dongs> blogg' 2016-03-17T15:10:32 < dongs> need to innovate stuff 2016-03-17T15:11:10 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/variable-High-Voltage-generator/ 2016-03-17T15:12:17 < dongs> hah 2016-03-17T15:12:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Elevator-Controller-board/ 2016-03-17T15:12:19 < mitrax> i'm making my first bootloader for F4, i want the application to be able to have its own vector table when i hand control to it, can the vector table of the application be located anywhere in flash? 2016-03-17T15:12:32 < dongs> mitrax: of course, thats what SCB_VTOR is for 2016-03-17T15:12:39 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-17T15:12:48 < dongs> you just make your app vector table start at the app offset like 0x4000 or wahtever 2016-03-17T15:12:54 < mitrax> okay thx 2016-03-17T15:13:02 < dongs> and before jumping to it (or in startup code of the app, set vector table address there. 2016-03-17T15:13:04 < jpa-> https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/ebike-controller/blob/master/src/bootloader.c#L204 2016-03-17T15:13:22 < dongs> jpa-: you know there's a cmsis intrinsic for the last 2 lines right?> 2016-03-17T15:13:22 < zyp> quick, everybody show your bootloaders! 2016-03-17T15:13:28 < mitrax> ahah 2016-03-17T15:13:53 < jpa-> dongs: possibly, but then some keil user might steal my codes 2016-03-17T15:14:08 < jpa-> what, people didn't want to see my bootloader? :( 2016-03-17T15:14:24 < zyp> here's my take: http://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/bootloader.cpp#n19 2016-03-17T15:14:37 < zyp> jpa-, yes, but you were faster than me :p 2016-03-17T15:15:22 < zyp> jpa-, why msr msp? would sp ever alias psp at that point? 2016-03-17T15:15:37 < zyp> and if it did, would it even work 2016-03-17T15:15:39 < zyp> ? 2016-03-17T15:15:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.211] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T15:15:51 < jpa-> so mov sp, %0 instead? 2016-03-17T15:15:56 < jpa-> yeah, i guess that would be the same 2016-03-17T15:16:24 < zyp> well, you made the load implicit 2016-03-17T15:16:31 < zyp> I just use ldr right to sp 2016-03-17T15:16:33 < jpa-> true 2016-03-17T15:16:45 < zyp> you could go weird and force %0 to be sp 2016-03-17T15:17:05 < zyp> but I'm not sure how the register allocator would like that 2016-03-17T15:17:38 < jpa-> it would probably go berserk and load sp at the start of the func or something 2016-03-17T15:18:18 < zyp> :) 2016-03-17T15:19:06 < zyp> that said, I'm not sure if sp is a valid target for ldr in v6-M 2016-03-17T15:19:29 < zyp> so I might need to rewrite it to support M0+ 2016-03-17T15:19:39 < jpa-> does M0 even have SCB->VTOR? or M0+ has? 2016-03-17T15:19:43 < zyp> M0+ has 2016-03-17T15:19:48 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-17T15:19:53 < dongs> m0 haz none 2016-03-17T15:19:54 < zyp> that's why I prefer l0 over f0 2016-03-17T15:26:18 < mitrax> 48kb bootloader ... *cough*, ok go, laugh! 2016-03-17T15:27:58 < zyp> wtf did you put in it? 2016-03-17T15:28:30 < mitrax> update from usb key or sdcard 2016-03-17T15:28:43 < zyp> ah, host mode 2016-03-17T15:28:46 < mitrax> yup 2016-03-17T15:30:26 < mitrax> oh well not that bad i guess considering i have 2MB flash 2016-03-17T15:31:00 < zyp> F42x? 2016-03-17T15:31:14 < mitrax> yeah 2016-03-17T15:31:22 < zyp> did you get rev 3 silicon? :) 2016-03-17T15:31:23 < mitrax> the rev3 dong got me 2016-03-17T15:31:26 < zyp> hehe 2016-03-17T15:32:16 < dongs> isnt the fisrt sectors huge on F4 anyway 2016-03-17T15:32:28 < dongs> was it 16 or 32k minimum? 2016-03-17T15:33:02 < zyp> yeah, I don't remember the specifics 2016-03-17T15:33:23 < zyp> hmm, 16k sounds right 2016-03-17T15:33:43 < jpa-> 16k i think yeah 2016-03-17T15:33:51 < jpa-> perfect size for bloatloader 2016-03-17T15:34:58 < qyx> much flashes today, I used 32k 2016-03-17T15:37:17 < trepidacious> I have no shame, and a 128K bootloader :) 2016-03-17T15:37:26 < trepidacious> It does network and USB mass storage though 2016-03-17T15:38:28 < rewolff> 16k on mine..... 405. 2016-03-17T15:39:04 < rewolff> (that's the first sector size). 2016-03-17T15:41:24 < qyx> an L1 GPIO should be able to sing/source about 20mA, right? 2016-03-17T15:41:34 < qyx> peak will be probably higher 2016-03-17T15:45:58 < dongs> datasheet has details. 2016-03-17T15:45:59 < dongs> probably. 2016-03-17T15:47:20 < englishman> http://passivewifi.cs.washington.edu/files/passive_wifi.pdf 2016-03-17T15:47:21 < englishman> haha 2016-03-17T15:47:24 < englishman> zero power internet of dicks 2016-03-17T15:47:36 < englishman> 1mbps wireless with 14.5uW 2016-03-17T15:48:03 < jpa-> was that the one that requires very much hacked up router at other end? 2016-03-17T15:48:21 < englishman> requires some carrier transmission 2016-03-17T15:48:39 < Sync_> wow innovation 2016-03-17T15:49:24 < trepidacious> jpa-: You were saying earlier something about type punning to make stuff faster? I lost my log when client crashed, I was goign to google it :) 2016-03-17T15:51:09 < jpa-> nah, it is a way to make undefined behaviour 2016-03-17T15:51:14 < jpa-> but you managed it on your own 2016-03-17T15:53:03 < dongs> whats the tldr on that thing 2016-03-17T15:53:22 < dongs> IdiOT nodes powered by accesspoint? 2016-03-17T15:53:27 < dongs> or just lowpower transmission 2016-03-17T15:53:48 < englishman> not powered by ap but reflecting and modulating carrier sent from ap 2016-03-17T15:54:04 < zyp> load modulation 2016-03-17T15:54:14 < zyp> it's pretty common for low power RF 2016-03-17T15:54:20 < zyp> RFID/NFC uses that 2016-03-17T15:55:15 < zyp> and the automated road toll system we have here in norway is using that too 2016-03-17T15:55:28 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T15:56:33 < englishman> yeah, these guys are getting 11mbps tho, which i guess is the innovation 2016-03-17T15:57:09 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T15:58:46 < Lux> still needs new hardware 2016-03-17T15:59:01 < Lux> so pretty useless at least for the years to come 2016-03-17T16:00:33 -!- _massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-17T16:08:43 < dongs> huh, paypal u.s. changed their 'money sent' email quite a lot 2016-03-17T16:13:11 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T16:14:18 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T16:17:52 < zyp> changed their website a lot too 2016-03-17T16:18:28 < dongs> i never notice cuz i have some deeplink for login that goes directly to a simple login page 2016-03-17T16:18:51 < dongs> main site happened liek a year ago tho 2016-03-17T16:18:56 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T16:18:59 < dongs> YOUR PROFILE IS 20% COMPLETE 2016-03-17T16:19:07 < dongs> the fuck is this, fakemoney or a social network? 2016-03-17T16:19:13 < zyp> haha 2016-03-17T16:19:14 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-03-17T16:19:29 < zyp> yeah, fuck that 2016-03-17T16:19:39 < dongs> apparently theres a knob somewehre in settings 2016-03-17T16:19:42 < dongs> to turn that off 2016-03-17T16:19:45 < zyp> I filled out everything to get it to go away 2016-03-17T16:19:55 < zyp> and it kept saying "YOUR PROFILE IS 100% COMPLETE" 2016-03-17T16:19:57 < zyp> thanks asshole 2016-03-17T16:19:58 < dongs> haha 2016-03-17T16:20:20 < kow_> they put that crap in a few years ago and gave everyone free burgers to go use it 2016-03-17T16:20:37 < dongs> free assburgers? 2016-03-17T16:20:51 < kow_> but all the restaurants that tried it out stopped taking it after the promo 2016-03-17T16:21:23 < kow_> is it really that hard to launch a payment processor with marginally lower rates than the competition 2016-03-17T16:22:10 < dongs> looks like mine is at 60 2016-03-17T16:22:18 < zyp> I've considered setting up an order page and using stripe to collect payment instead 2016-03-17T16:22:20 < dongs> maybe i should specify my sexual preferences 2016-03-17T16:22:50 < dongs> zyp: if you go to profile 2016-03-17T16:22:54 < dongs> bototm left has 'classic site' 2016-03-17T16:22:57 < dongs> checking if itsticks 2016-03-17T16:22:59 < zyp> but paypal has the one advantage that I can keep received money in the currency I received it in, i.e. USD 2016-03-17T16:23:34 < zyp> so that when I get paid in USD and buy shit in USD, I don't have to pay fees to go USD -> NOK -> USD 2016-03-17T16:23:36 < dongs> lol, nope. classic site just goes to old-style history 2016-03-17T16:23:48 < Sync_> trolled 2016-03-17T16:24:15 < zyp> if I wanted to do that with stripe, I'd need an US bank account 2016-03-17T16:24:23 < englishman> i dont even have the old site link any more :( since like a few months ago 2016-03-17T16:24:37 < dongs> its in my u.s. fakepal from 2007 2016-03-17T16:24:48 < dongs> click the profile wrench and scroll down 2016-03-17T16:24:51 < dongs> from main page. 2016-03-17T16:25:16 < dongs> WHY CAN'T PAYPAL SIMPLY LET USERS THE CHOICE TO HAVE CLASSIC VIEW, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT PAYPAL FORCES THIS UTTER GARBAGE, CLUTTER FILLED NEW INTERFACE ON CUSTOMERS.. THE LOGICAL CHOICE IS TO GIVE THE OPTION TO REVERT BACK TO CLASSIC VEIW WHICH IS EASY TO USE.. UTTER DISRESPECTFUL OF PAYPAL AND IT'S ROBOT EXECUTIVE MANAGERS. 2016-03-17T16:25:16 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T16:25:17 < zyp> dongs, meh, I stopped giving a fuck 2016-03-17T16:25:26 < dongs> someone is unhappy 2016-03-17T16:26:14 < zyp> old site used to give me a captcha when I spammed "request a payment" a bunch of times in a row, new site doesn't 2016-03-17T16:26:24 < dongs> hm i never got that 2016-03-17T16:26:29 < dongs> oh, request 2016-03-17T16:26:31 < kow_> new site gave me aids 2016-03-17T16:26:41 < zyp> yeah, to generate simple invoices 2016-03-17T16:26:44 < dongs> i dont think i do that, i used their built in invoicin shit a few times 2016-03-17T16:27:01 < zyp> the pro invoice shit looked like too much work 2016-03-17T16:27:32 < zyp> and I don't trust people to get it right if I tell them to just send me money without an invoice 2016-03-17T16:28:45 < kow_> I was asked to resubmit my invoice yesterday with a proper "header and stuff" 2016-03-17T16:29:23 < kow_> apparently just listing the jobs & hours on a spreadsheet is not right, I should have more typical invoicey things on there 2016-03-17T16:29:48 < zyp> accounting rules are annoying :p 2016-03-17T16:29:59 < kow_> I added the word "INVOICE" to it in size 100 font and they accepted it 2016-03-17T16:30:06 < dongs> do you have a company logo? if not just put dickbut on there 2016-03-17T16:30:15 < zyp> haha 2016-03-17T16:30:29 < zyp> "Dickbutt Enterprises" 2016-03-17T16:30:37 < kow_> next time I'll try phoning in my invoice 2016-03-17T16:30:47 < dongs> dickbutt heavy industries 2016-03-17T16:31:13 < englishman> experiencing massive growth 2016-03-17T16:31:21 < dongs> http://tma.eve-kill.net/Dickbutt?a=corp_detail&crp_id=350703 what 2016-03-17T16:53:52 < trepidacious> Anyone know about how fast STM32F4 ethernet should go? I seem to get about 600KByte/s, I keep thinking it should be faster 2016-03-17T16:54:11 < dongs> zano-speeds 2016-03-17T16:55:13 < zyp> trepidacious, I would expect the MAC to be able to saturate the link 2016-03-17T16:55:48 < zyp> so you probably have a bottleneck at a higher layer 2016-03-17T16:56:10 < trepidacious> zyp: Yup probably, I guess there're a lot of layers 2016-03-17T16:56:31 < zyp> I assume you're talking about TCP? 2016-03-17T16:56:34 < trepidacious> lwip, tcp/ip 2016-03-17T16:56:36 < trepidacious> yup 2016-03-17T16:57:58 < zyp> I would guess it's either inefficient flow control that makes the sender send less than what you can actually receive, or that you're cpu limited 2016-03-17T16:58:52 < trepidacious> zyp: Yup probably CPU, also it seems like there are probably multiple points where data is copied from buffer to buffer 2016-03-17T16:58:53 < mitrax> trepidacios: have you disabled nagle algorithm and any shit suceptible to slow down things? (though naggle shouldn't be a problem if you send large amount of data, no experience with it with lwip though) 2016-03-17T17:00:10 < dongs> dongle algorithm 2016-03-17T17:00:35 < dongs> arent you sreaming video? 2016-03-17T17:00:39 < dongs> you should use RTMP or osmeshit 2016-03-17T17:00:43 < dongs> udp or watever 2016-03-17T17:00:46 < dongs> rtsp? 2016-03-17T17:00:48 < dongs> soemshit like that 2016-03-17T17:00:49 < mitrax> yeah for video tcp is a bad idea 2016-03-17T17:03:28 < kakimir> sup guys have you invented a lot today? 2016-03-17T17:03:36 < trepidacious> Yeah maybe I should try UDP, I'll have a look at the nagle thing as well 2016-03-17T17:04:45 < mitrax> trepidacious: have a look at this http://lwip.wikia.com/wiki/Tuning_TCP if you didn't already 2016-03-17T17:05:11 < kakimir> have anyone come up with any smaller ethernet mcu than 80pin 107Vx? 2016-03-17T17:06:18 < mitrax> there's also LWIP_CHECKSUM_ON_COPY that might improve things, and LWIP_DEBUG that should not be defined 2016-03-17T17:06:34 < trepidacious> mitrax: I think I had a look through that page a little while ago, I'll review it though 2016-03-17T17:07:28 < trepidacious> Should LWIP_CHECKSUM_ON_COPY be on or off? 2016-03-17T17:07:45 < mitrax> on 2016-03-17T17:08:36 < trepidacious> Ah it's off at the moment... 2016-03-17T17:09:00 < mitrax> it might not make a big difference but it's one of the thing listed there http://lwip.wikia.com/wiki/Maximizing_throughput 2016-03-17T17:13:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-17T17:15:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T17:15:48 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T17:24:34 < trepidacious> It seems like it might make a few % difference, I made the TCP_MSS bigger as well and got about 5% 2016-03-17T17:24:48 < trepidacious> I think it was already pretty optimised in terms of LWIP settings, I'll have a look at that other page as well 2016-03-17T17:27:47 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FcWC3qY.jpg 2016-03-17T17:28:10 < Rob235> boo 2016-03-17T17:29:44 < zyp> dongs, hey, those common small smt connectors, what are those? 2016-03-17T17:29:58 < zyp> the ones used on some quadrotor boards, among other shit 2016-03-17T17:30:04 < PaulFertser> trepidacious: you can get ghetto (but still pretty useful) profiling with OpenOCD in no time, just use "profile 30 ethernet-perf.gprof" and then use gprof to see what functions are in there taking most of the time. 2016-03-17T17:30:38 < dongs> zyp, the one on the left here? http://abusemark.com/store/images/naze32metal.jpg 2016-03-17T17:30:59 < zyp> yeah, I guess 2016-03-17T17:30:59 < dongs> or the shit on openpilot 2016-03-17T17:31:16 < englishman> they all use different gay shit 2016-03-17T17:31:18 < dongs> mine is 1.25mm pitch shit, openpilot is jst-something, checking 2016-03-17T17:31:20 < zyp> idk, I just want some cheap small shit 2016-03-17T17:31:24 < englishman> jst-sh is kinda standard 2016-03-17T17:31:28 < dongs> ya -sh 2016-03-17T17:31:28 < englishman> Japan Standard Terminal 2016-03-17T17:31:28 < dongs> that 2016-03-17T17:31:51 < englishman> *Solderless 2016-03-17T17:32:35 < dongs> the shit on mine is MultiComp 1251R-04-SM1 but its a clone of some molex part 2016-03-17T17:32:46 < englishman> zyp: stuff like jst-gh is same pitch but locking 2016-03-17T17:33:03 < englishman> literally over9000 choices and all of them are used by china 2016-03-17T17:33:31 < dongs> china calls them "wafer connector" 2016-03-17T17:33:41 < dongs> i had a proj where guy specified "china xh1.25" 2016-03-17T17:33:44 < zyp> guy is asking me "can you add some IO on the nfc reader for an optional keypad?" 2016-03-17T17:34:01 < zyp> so I'd like some cheap small shit for that 2016-03-17T17:34:06 < dongs> zyp, how many pins? 2016-03-17T17:34:10 < zyp> 8-10 2016-03-17T17:34:10 < dongs> im gonna be using uh.. 2016-03-17T17:34:18 < dongs> and i have some cables premade for that 2016-03-17T17:34:20 < dongs> sec 2016-03-17T17:34:48 < zyp> 3x4 keypad needs 7, and I'm not adding an IO connector without ground 2016-03-17T17:35:21 < zyp> and I might as well add 3.3V out as well while I'm at it 2016-03-17T17:35:24 < dongs> hm wehre the fuck is this design 2016-03-17T17:35:55 < dongs> ah i did use JST-SH 8 pin 2016-03-17T17:36:30 < zyp> I assume it costs ~nothing? 2016-03-17T17:36:47 < dongs> ya it was cheap and i have 500 1:1 wire harnesses around 10-15cm long 2016-03-17T17:37:24 < dongs> 1mm pitch 2016-03-17T17:37:27 < dongs> so its pretty compact 2016-03-17T17:37:44 < zyp> right angle or what? 2016-03-17T17:37:48 < dongs> ya 2016-03-17T17:37:59 < zyp> ok 2016-03-17T17:38:08 < dongs> SM10B-SRSS-TB 2016-03-17T17:38:10 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/f/XQc3j.png <- guess I'm gonna move the button from the edge and fit it there then 2016-03-17T17:38:38 < dongs> or switch to 0402 or smth 2016-03-17T17:39:03 < zyp> haha 2016-03-17T17:39:06 < dongs> its 13mm 2016-03-17T17:39:10 < dongs> for the 8 pin. 2016-03-17T17:39:16 < dongs> max length 2016-03-17T17:39:26 < zyp> SM10B is 10-pin 2016-03-17T17:39:48 < dongs> er yeah im a dick. i meant SM08B 2016-03-17T17:39:57 < dongs> but i mean, 10pin is also available etc. 2016-03-17T17:40:22 < zyp> yeah, I think I want vcc out as well 2016-03-17T17:40:31 < zyp> in case of future bullshit 2016-03-17T17:41:31 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T17:42:27 < dongs> anyway those work/cehap wire harness can be made easily 2016-03-17T17:42:55 < dongs> personalyl i'd get rid of that retarded programming socket from the top part 2016-03-17T17:43:01 < dongs> and stick it under the chip or something on the back 2016-03-17T17:43:06 < dongs> and put the connector there 2016-03-17T17:43:19 < dongs> so its like usb | jst | rf junk 2016-03-17T17:43:51 < zyp> yeah, except fuck routing that, way more free gpio on left/top side of chip anyway 2016-03-17T17:43:56 < dongs> you can also switch to englishman button 2016-03-17T17:43:58 < zyp> so routing to where the button is is easy 2016-03-17T17:44:05 < dongs> LY-A03-08A 2016-03-17T17:44:05 < zyp> which? 2016-03-17T17:44:09 < dongs> its super tiny 2016-03-17T17:44:11 < dongs> and clicky 2016-03-17T17:44:16 < zyp> what about price? 2016-03-17T17:44:23 < dongs> like $0.01 or osmeshit 2016-03-17T17:44:26 < zyp> haha, ok 2016-03-17T17:44:31 < dongs> http://de.aliexpress.com/store/product/tactile-smd-switch-LY-A03-08/702761_1699591229.html?storeId=702761 2016-03-17T17:44:34 < dongs> this kidna shit 2016-03-17T17:44:38 < dongs> god damn IT STILL COMES UP IN GERMAN FOR ME FUCK 2016-03-17T17:45:01 < zyp> you're too nazi to not be german 2016-03-17T17:47:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-17T17:47:25 < englishman> oh nice, its clicky 2016-03-17T17:47:29 < dongs> ya 2016-03-17T17:47:30 < dongs> very 2016-03-17T17:47:36 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/BVKltjS 2016-03-17T17:48:10 < dongs> mikroschalter 2016-03-17T17:48:51 < dongs> zyp, theres liek 5 connections on that thing 2016-03-17T17:48:59 < dongs> dont tell me youre THAT lazy to route it 2016-03-17T17:52:17 < dongs> bedtime 2016-03-17T17:54:06 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FLZnE0r.png last freelancer link for today 2016-03-17T17:59:13 < karlp> jpa-: does your write backup() work? it only erases sector 6? 2016-03-17T18:04:42 < zyp> dongs, no, I meant the connector which will have nine :p 2016-03-17T18:05:59 < karlp> kow_: we've currently had ~4 new payment processing type networks setup here. no clue what the motivation is. my banks app lets me transfer money to anyone by account details, the new apps add the massive innovation of..... transferring to anyone with a phone number. 2016-03-17T18:09:25 < zyp> we have that shit here too, it's kinda convenient 2016-03-17T18:10:16 < zyp> you can request payment from people who owe you, and you get instant confirmation when somebody pays you 2016-03-17T18:10:38 < zyp> and I believe they recently got support for easily splitting bills too 2016-03-17T18:11:00 < zyp> like, you pay, then you just enter the bill and request what the others owe you from them 2016-03-17T18:11:07 < zyp> but I haven't tested that feature 2016-03-17T18:11:21 < karlp> yeah, that's the same stuff they're doing here, 2016-03-17T18:11:28 < karlp> but there's like three, one from each of the banks, 2016-03-17T18:11:50 < karlp> then another company decided to offer, "pay with this other app, and not pay it back for 30 days"! 2016-03-17T18:11:55 < zyp> here there's two as far as I'm aware, and one of those is from .dk 2016-03-17T18:11:57 < karlp> so... just like a credit card, only with more fees. 2016-03-17T18:12:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T18:12:22 < karlp> finally found someone who worked there, they admitted it's mostly just targetting people who can't get a ccard, which I didn't think was anyone on this rock. 2016-03-17T18:12:40 < zyp> haha 2016-03-17T18:12:52 < karlp> I can't see the appeal of installing an app to be able to send a bill to someone who's phone number I have. 2016-03-17T18:13:03 < karlp> all the people here know their account numbers anyway. 2016-03-17T18:15:20 < zyp> well, I have the phone numbers for most of my friends, I don't have the account numbers for all of them 2016-03-17T18:15:48 < karlp> you'd get them if you needed it though. 2016-03-17T18:15:57 < zyp> and the instant confirmation thing is nice if you're selling shit to random people that you don't necessarily trust 2016-03-17T18:16:24 < karlp> sure, for billing and selling maybe, but as a general, "everybody should have this app! life is so much better!" I just don't get it. 2016-03-17T18:17:05 < karlp> I'd imagine at least one of the ones here is the danish one whitelabelled too.. 2016-03-17T18:17:16 < zyp> probably 2016-03-17T18:17:22 < zyp> hmm, apparently there's a third one here too 2016-03-17T18:17:30 < karlp> holy shit the fees are insane too. 2016-03-17T18:17:48 < zyp> oh, there's no fees here 2016-03-17T18:18:41 < zyp> there used to be 1 NOK/transaction on «vipps» and then danish bank's mobilepay came with no fees, so vipps dropped the fees as well 2016-03-17T18:19:16 < zyp> third option is mcash, but it seems like that one is targeted at paying in stores 2016-03-17T18:19:21 < zyp> with some QR bullshit 2016-03-17T18:27:08 < Sync_> karlp: come to germoney 2016-03-17T18:27:21 < Sync_> where CCs are relatively uncommon 2016-03-17T18:28:34 < englishman> this was so weird 2016-03-17T18:28:38 < englishman> i thought it was a modern place 2016-03-17T18:28:45 < englishman> and it is in many ways 2016-03-17T18:28:54 < englishman> but cash really 2016-03-17T18:29:55 < englishman> the only reason i have cash here at all is for the milkman, cuz theres still places out on his route with spotty coverage for a 4G POS 2016-03-17T18:31:07 < karlp> Sync_: maybe in germany I'd see a use for the app, not here though 2016-03-17T18:31:43 < karlp> anyway, how does one get an XY file for pick and place out of alitum? the reports->BOM doesn't let me select the 2016-03-17T18:32:08 < karlp> the reports->componenent cross references doesn't let me select the "designator x, designator y" fields, maybe because I'm in viewer only 2016-03-17T18:32:19 < Sync_> englishman: why would I carry a plastic card when I can have paper MONIES in muh pocket? 2016-03-17T18:32:31 < englishman> its all the damn coins 2016-03-17T18:32:33 < karlp> sorry, centerx/centery 2016-03-17T18:32:45 < englishman> anyway plastic is old now too, everything is in phone 2016-03-17T18:32:53 < Sync_> naw bruh 2016-03-17T18:33:05 < englishman> karlp: reports->bom lets you do it in pcb mode not sch mode 2016-03-17T18:33:26 < Sync_> I'd actually be suprised if that gets popular here 2016-03-17T18:33:26 < englishman> theres also file -> assembly outputs -> dicknplace 2016-03-17T18:33:36 < Sync_> I mean even the nfc pay shit is basically useless 2016-03-17T18:33:38 < englishman> yeah it takes a great cultural shift 2016-03-17T18:33:44 < Sync_> as nodody has the POS 2016-03-17T18:33:46 < englishman> really? its all thats used here at all 2016-03-17T18:33:47 < Sync_> and nobody uses them 2016-03-17T18:33:51 < englishman> ^ exactly 2016-03-17T18:34:05 < englishman> its well set up here, everyone has a pos and its replaced every 2-3 years 2016-03-17T18:34:07 < englishman> so always latest tech 2016-03-17T18:34:27 < Sync_> well, the transactions are also limited to 20€ per transaction 2016-03-17T18:34:45 < Sync_> so it is even more useless 2016-03-17T18:34:48 < englishman> yikes 2016-03-17T18:34:51 < englishman> its like $100 2016-03-17T18:34:59 < englishman> and after that its just chip+pin 2016-03-17T18:35:48 < karlp> englishman: yeah, reports->bom doesn't let me select any of the extra fields in the all columns, 2016-03-17T18:35:53 < karlp> I presume that's a viewer limitiation 2016-03-17T18:36:07 < karlp> the assembly outputs in this version doesn't ahve the dicknplace option either. 2016-03-17T18:36:09 < Sync_> idk, I rather have paper money, the cards provice too much attack surface imho 2016-03-17T18:36:23 < Sync_> ~provide even 2016-03-17T18:36:37 < karlp> cards for the win man, interested free for a month, itemised statement, no transaction fees, no need to carry the cash around 2016-03-17T18:37:16 < englishman> karlp: drag and drop from the stuff on the left 2016-03-17T18:37:21 < englishman> to add to sort list 2016-03-17T18:37:35 < englishman> from bottom to Grouped Columns in top left 2016-03-17T18:37:37 < englishman> iirc 2016-03-17T18:38:02 < englishman> cant use cash online either 2016-03-17T18:39:37 < Sync_> but I can wire money online 2016-03-17T18:39:58 < Sync_> (or go to my bank with the wire form) 2016-03-17T18:40:40 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-17T18:41:45 < karlp> englishman: yeah, no draggy, must be this viewer. 2016-03-17T18:41:54 < karlp> I could maybe try getting the "viewer" license for a current version. 2016-03-17T18:42:00 < karlp> not a deal breaker. 2016-03-17T18:42:16 < karlp> wiring money has zero protection for you, fuck that 2016-03-17T18:42:53 < Sync_> yup, but that's how it is 2016-03-17T18:43:16 < karlp> I'm not saying credit card processors are better, they'rðe a fucking global scam, 2016-03-17T18:43:39 < karlp> I was just saying I didn't understand why I would want a phone app, that is only transfering from a registerd debig/credit card anyway, 2016-03-17T18:44:00 < Sync_> yeah, I would not want a phone app either 2016-03-17T18:44:14 < Sync_> englishman: most of the POS here work with ELV 2016-03-17T18:44:32 < Sync_> which is doing direct debit from my acct 2016-03-17T18:45:29 < karlp> that's the same as any old debit card right? 2016-03-17T18:45:46 < karlp> only, you can't use it online, because it's got no card number on it or something useless? 2016-03-17T18:45:54 < karlp> anyway, at least it's not danbank .) 2016-03-17T18:46:14 < karlp> englishman: confirmed, no options beyond those predefined by the "owner" of the files ahead of time:Þ https://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Altium+Designer+Viewer+-+Generating+Output 2016-03-17T18:46:22 < Sync_> yes, it is a debit card 2016-03-17T18:46:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:cc52:8c3b:51d4:c656] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T18:54:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-17T18:55:04 < englishman> karlp: heh didnt know you were in some free thing 2016-03-17T18:55:50 < jpa-> karlp: sector 6 is 128kB long 2016-03-17T18:57:49 < englishman> zypvna is a great purchase http://i.imgur.com/F73whWm.jpg 2016-03-17T18:58:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.109.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:00:40 < englishman> 915.5MHz antenna tunage slightly off http://i.imgur.com/lv9YxMu.jpg 2016-03-17T19:04:02 < Laurenceb_> any ideas how much a horse ECG GUI would cost me on freelancer? 2016-03-17T19:04:17 < Laurenceb_> or is there 0 chance of anyone making anything useful for me on there? 2016-03-17T19:08:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.101] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:12:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:12:59 < Sync_> Laurenceb_: the latter probably 2016-03-17T19:13:18 < Laurenceb_> heh I wondered if that was the case :D 2016-03-17T19:13:37 < Laurenceb_> back to fighting Qt 2016-03-17T19:18:51 < kakimir> now i have everything needed to tap in my smas 2016-03-17T19:19:08 < kakimir> got some t pieces today 2016-03-17T19:19:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:22:38 < kakimir> fuk terminatin resistors 2016-03-17T19:22:59 < kakimir> just directy to scope an that is that 2016-03-17T19:23:31 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@89.190.50.140] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-17T19:23:50 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/napcuFF.png 2016-03-17T19:23:53 < Laurenceb_> what the heck 2016-03-17T19:23:57 < karlp> jpa-: ahh, that explains it :) 2016-03-17T19:24:30 < karlp> englishman: yar, local work has eagle pr0, some design partner that reworked the board for some of the EMC certs redid it all in altium. 2016-03-17T19:24:43 < karlp> but they're now trying to rape us on manufacturing a little :) 2016-03-17T19:25:49 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:31:04 < karlp> heh http://www.linear.com/product/LTC2873 2016-03-17T19:36:36 < Sync_> that's actually pretty cool 2016-03-17T19:37:07 < Laurenceb_> this just gets more perplexing, qt is convinced it should compile for android 2016-03-17T19:37:30 < Sync_> probably because you told it to 2016-03-17T19:37:59 < Laurenceb_> probably yes 2016-03-17T19:38:12 < Laurenceb_> too much retarded gui config 2016-03-17T19:41:20 < karlp> Sync_: yeah, fully integrated charge pumps for rs232 too, 2016-03-17T19:41:27 < karlp> bargain as well, only $4.45 in 1k! 2016-03-17T19:41:52 < Sync_> well, that is not so nice, but overall, why not 2016-03-17T19:42:13 < Sync_> for when you cannot decide what shit to use 2016-03-17T19:47:02 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:47:40 < englishman> only LT can find a way to charge $5 for a max232 2016-03-17T19:47:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T19:49:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T19:50:22 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-17T19:51:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:53:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:56:37 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-17T19:57:17 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T19:59:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T19:59:16 -!- Rob235__ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T20:01:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T20:02:09 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-17T20:02:54 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T20:04:24 -!- Rob235__ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-17T20:05:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-17T20:07:39 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-17T20:10:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T20:11:06 < Steffanx> Rob235 .. 2016-03-17T20:11:14 < Rob235> ? 2016-03-17T20:12:28 < Steffanx> done doing the timeout thing? 2016-03-17T20:12:57 < Rob235> timeout for what? I'm taking a break from the project so haven't been thinking about it recently 2016-03-17T20:13:02 < Rob235> ready to get back into it 2016-03-17T20:13:21 < Steffanx> you were ping timeouting for like 20 minutes. 2016-03-17T20:13:29 < Rob235> oh haha 2016-03-17T20:13:57 < Rob235> lets hope so, i'll quit if I notice it again 2016-03-17T20:16:00 < Laurenceb_> lol http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35828747 2016-03-17T20:16:16 < Steffanx> whats new? 2016-03-17T20:34:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T20:41:48 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-17T20:47:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:a4fa:a140:830:c364] has quit [Quit: There's nothing dirtier then a giant ball of oil] 2016-03-17T20:53:46 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-17T20:54:04 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T20:55:53 < Steffanx> Dongs why did your most favourite waveshare went arduino compatible? 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2016-03-17T22:00:23 < kakimir> my pro gears is broken cables and plugs 2016-03-17T22:01:16 < kakimir> I would describe the sound.. niteclub toilet-ish 2016-03-17T22:03:08 < kakimir> after equalization it's niteclub toilet-ish with door open 2016-03-17T22:03:42 < kakimir> not bad actually 2016-03-17T22:05:14 < kakimir> best 3eur headphones actually 2016-03-17T22:05:48 < kakimir> sound doesn't break at any point 2016-03-17T22:06:30 < kakimir> what is usually given 2016-03-17T22:08:57 < kakimir> last time I had 3eur headphones it was 15years ago I guess 2016-03-17T22:20:40 < kakimir> texas is bad with ethernet enabled basic mcus 2016-03-17T22:20:53 < kakimir> they are propably all wireless 2016-03-17T22:21:29 < kakimir> *32bit 2016-03-17T22:27:20 < kakimir> they have tiva of course but that it not basic range 2016-03-17T22:39:48 < kakimir> http://www.atmel.com/devices/ATSAME70J19.aspx 64pin M7 beef running 300mhz 2016-03-17T22:40:41 < kakimir> 7-8usd0% @ 1k 2016-03-17T22:41:05 < kakimir> perfect for zano 2016-03-17T22:43:00 < kakimir> does it double the price to double the core speed? 2016-03-17T22:48:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-17T22:49:59 < Steffanx> it even does 1O mbit ethernet. 2016-03-17T22:51:28 < Laurenceb_> found crt https://www.facebook.com/cuckshed/ 2016-03-17T22:53:02 < Steffanx> Mirroring Laurenceb_? 2016-03-17T22:53:26 < Steffanx> *refecting, whatever the right word is 2016-03-17T22:53:51 < Steffanx> *reflecting 2016-03-17T22:57:05 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T22:57:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-17T22:58:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:02:30 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:04:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:04:49 < kakimir> cucks I found 64pin micro with 10/100ethernets 2016-03-17T23:05:00 < kakimir> and around 4usd price too 2016-03-17T23:05:30 < kakimir> 5-6actually 2016-03-17T23:06:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:07:43 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:08:17 < kakimir> XMC4400 series 2016-03-17T23:08:33 < kakimir> infineon 2016-03-17T23:10:55 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/aX55039.jpg 2016-03-17T23:11:58 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:12:51 < karlp> englishman: it's not just a max232 though, it's the max232 and the rs485, with switcable onboard termination resistors too! 2016-03-17T23:13:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:13:56 < karlp> yeah, icelandair isn't nearly as lux as it was. pretty much nickel and diming like anyone else now. 2016-03-17T23:15:49 < zyp> eh 2016-03-17T23:16:43 < zyp> on what level? 2016-03-17T23:16:52 < zyp> do you have to pay for any checked luggage at all? 2016-03-17T23:17:22 < zyp> I mean, do you have to pay extra to bring a single piece of checked luggage? 2016-03-17T23:18:09 < kakimir> they sold headphones for to keep and with 3.5mm connector 2016-03-17T23:18:51 < karlp> zyp: well, yeah, they're still "nicer" than WOW air, or ryanair, but not nearly what they were in the very recent past 2016-03-17T23:19:13 < zyp> I hate when airlines won't let you bring any checked luggage for free, because the result is a ton of assholes that's too cheap for that and brings way too much carryon instead 2016-03-17T23:19:17 < karlp> yeah, smallest Tiva with ethernet mac is 128qfp. 212 bga for mac+phy 2016-03-17T23:19:27 < zyp> which results in fucking nazi carryon police 2016-03-17T23:19:32 < kakimir> usually you pay that 3eur for some dirt that is being repacked for next customer and doesn't have standard plug 2016-03-17T23:19:37 < zyp> it's just an inconvenience for everyone 2016-03-17T23:19:42 < karlp> yeah, wow does no checked luggage, and a single 5kg hand luggage bag, single piece being nazi 2016-03-17T23:19:48 < karlp> totally agree, 2016-03-17T23:19:52 < karlp> completely fucked. 2016-03-17T23:20:16 < zyp> Norwegian (the airline) is like that, and I avoid them as long as it's reasonable 2016-03-17T23:20:28 < englishman> zyp: delta does a semi checked shit where they take your bag at the ramp and stow it 2016-03-17T23:20:38 < englishman> which is just as dumb but they pass less airport fee for throwing 2016-03-17T23:20:42 < englishman> pay less 2016-03-17T23:21:09 < zyp> also, why the fuck are you caring about shitty headsets? 2016-03-17T23:21:19 < englishman> kakimir is leaving the country? 2016-03-17T23:21:22 < englishman> by choice? 2016-03-17T23:21:35 < zyp> the only headset I'm wearing on a flight is a proper noise cancelling one 2016-03-17T23:22:17 < zyp> and I got an airline adapter with it when I bought it, in case I want to listen to inflight audio channels 2016-03-17T23:24:47 < kakimir> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cdr8ApUWIAA9eAS.jpg 2016-03-17T23:25:08 < zyp> I don't need a book for that 2016-03-17T23:25:35 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:28:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.109.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-17T23:29:14 < kakimir> englishman: none.exe 2016-03-17T23:29:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:32:32 -!- Rob235__ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:32:33 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:34:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:35:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:38:03 -!- Rob235__ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:38:35 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:41:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:41:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:3073:e4ca:991f:b84] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:42:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:cc52:8c3b:51d4:c656] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-17T23:46:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:48:33 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:48:57 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:51:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:53:46 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:56:03 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-17T23:56:43 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-17T23:58:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Day changed Fri Mar 18 2016 2016-03-18T00:00:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T00:01:19 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T00:02:41 < karlp> am I right in thinking that there's no external ADC cahnnels free on the headers of the l4 disco? 2016-03-18T00:03:33 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-18T00:04:43 < Rob235> oh shit is this still going on? sorry 2016-03-18T00:04:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-18T00:08:24 < oz4ga> g'day 2016-03-18T00:08:45 < PeterM> gday crt 2016-03-18T00:09:32 < PeterM> fuckin rainin here 2016-03-18T00:09:54 < PeterM> its like "woo, no outside work today" "fuck, more outside work tomorrow" 2016-03-18T00:10:15 < oz4ga> VB :) 2016-03-18T00:10:57 < PeterM> you can get it thumpin' 2016-03-18T00:11:26 < PeterM> you can et it dumpin' 2016-03-18T00:11:31 < PeterM> matter of fact 2016-03-18T00:11:48 < PeterM> i've got on in the fridge 2016-03-18T00:12:10 < PeterM> it's too early to start now, even though it is friday 2016-03-18T00:12:27 < PeterM> oz4ga, where abouts are you from 2016-03-18T00:12:37 < PeterM> i assume aussie livign abroad? 2016-03-18T00:13:17 < PeterM> woah, nope 2016-03-18T00:27:33 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-03-18T00:32:11 < karlp> hrm, no idea why adc readings on l4 don't work. get a nice clean temperature reading from internal, the 5 adc pins available on the l4 disco headers are all connected to the joystick switches, but if I don't push the switch, it should be ok to read analog there. 2016-03-18T00:36:22 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T00:36:22 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-18T00:38:41 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-18T00:38:45 < karlp> yeah I know, so a pot on pa1,5,2,3 should all just work ok. 2016-03-18T00:38:50 < karlp> I wonder what's gone awry. 2016-03-18T00:41:52 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-18T00:45:02 < karlp> hrm, maybe I need to run the calibration. 2016-03-18T00:46:34 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T00:47:31 < Laurenceb_> calling c++ gurus http://pastebin.com/ZseTnNrv 2016-03-18T00:47:53 < zyp> yeah? 2016-03-18T00:47:57 < Laurenceb_> graph.h:50: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'class Graph 2016-03-18T00:48:18 < Laurenceb_> top of paste is line 49 2016-03-18T00:48:24 < Thorn> >class Graph : public Graph 2016-03-18T00:48:28 < zyp> well, duh 2016-03-18T00:48:32 < Thorn> incest detected 2016-03-18T00:48:33 < zyp> a class can't inherit itself 2016-03-18T00:48:37 < Thorn> or autofellatio 2016-03-18T00:48:52 < Laurenceb_> hmm i see 2016-03-18T01:00:48 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121.200.15.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T01:04:59 * karlp is running cubemx 2016-03-18T01:05:05 < karlp> even had a linux installer that worked. 2016-03-18T01:06:21 < karlp> this homo right here sexypants. 2016-03-18T01:09:33 < jadew> since I discovered VMs, I removed my linux HDD 2016-03-18T01:09:45 < jadew> I now only need a tiny window to run make in 2016-03-18T01:09:52 < jadew> and I can do all the editting from windows 2016-03-18T01:10:23 < Laurenceb_> I suck at c++ 2016-03-18T01:10:35 < Laurenceb_> graph.cpp:147: error: no matching function for call to 'QObject::connect(QTimer*, const char*, Graph* const, const char*)' 2016-03-18T01:10:54 < jadew> that's not your fault, that's probably Qt 2016-03-18T01:10:58 < Laurenceb_> QObject::connect(&dataTimer, SIGNAL(timeout()), this, SLOT(realtimeDataSlot())); 2016-03-18T01:11:02 < jadew> because the error has Qt in it 2016-03-18T01:11:05 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-18T01:12:52 < Laurenceb_> maybe 'this' is causing it 2016-03-18T01:13:35 < Thorn> first arg should be const 2016-03-18T01:14:02 < jadew> Thorn, it shouldn't matter 2016-03-18T01:14:16 < jadew> if the argument is not const but the function expects const, it's fine 2016-03-18T01:14:48 < jadew> Laurenceb_, you'll probably have more luck in #qt 2016-03-18T01:14:55 < Thorn> Graph doesn't inherit QObject 2016-03-18T01:14:58 < karlp> huh, cubemx clock solver implies I can run usb on MSI+pll, but not HSI+pll... 2016-03-18T01:14:59 < karlp> odd. 2016-03-18T01:16:16 < jadew> Thorn, of course, Graph inherits from Graph :P 2016-03-18T01:16:32 < Thorn> that's right 2016-03-18T01:17:30 < jadew> I like cubemx because it shows you the pins 2016-03-18T01:18:05 < jadew> it's a good tool when you're doing pin planning 2016-03-18T01:18:32 < ohsix> power calc 2 2016-03-18T01:18:38 < Laurenceb_> yay it compiles 2016-03-18T01:18:48 < Laurenceb_> doesnt actually fire up the graph tho lol 2016-03-18T01:19:54 < Laurenceb_> I fail hard 2016-03-18T01:20:18 < karlp> heh cubemx even knows how to download periph libraries 2016-03-18T01:20:31 < karlp> didnt' find a way to tell it where to find the 200meg file I'd already downloaded, but ok, whatever works. 2016-03-18T01:21:06 * jadew wants to upgrade to gigabit 2016-03-18T01:21:26 < jadew> if only I would wake up in the morning... 2016-03-18T01:21:37 < jadew> crt, what's it like? 2016-03-18T01:21:43 < jadew> price/speed 2016-03-18T01:22:13 < jadew> some might consider that fun 2016-03-18T01:22:34 < jadew> but yeah, I think I heard that before 2016-03-18T01:22:46 < jadew> how much do you pay? 2016-03-18T01:24:45 < jadew> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5176733249 2016-03-18T01:25:11 < jadew> yeah, that's a bad deal 2016-03-18T01:25:21 < jadew> I pay ~$7 for this connection 2016-03-18T01:25:34 < jadew> can get 300 Mbps @ $10 2016-03-18T01:25:51 < jadew> or 1 Gbps @ ~14 2016-03-18T01:26:12 < jadew> heh 2016-03-18T01:26:18 < jadew> lol 2016-03-18T01:26:42 < jadew> well, could be worse 2016-03-18T01:27:07 < Thorn> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5176736010 $4.50/month 2016-03-18T01:27:18 < jadew> I remember one time when the main office of the company I work for had shittier internet than I had on my phone 2016-03-18T01:27:57 < jadew> Thorn, nice! 2016-03-18T01:27:59 < jadew> that's super cheap 2016-03-18T01:28:43 < jadew> maybe I won't sleep at all tonight so I can go tomorrow morning and upgrade my connection 2016-03-18T01:29:09 < karlp> wow, this cube generated code is aids but. 2016-03-18T01:30:12 < jadew> it's what chicks use these days to induce vomitting 2016-03-18T01:30:24 < jadew> two fingers are a thing of the past 2016-03-18T01:31:12 < karlp> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5176736010 and ~80usd/month, though the speed and ping you'd get from about 30usd/month, I'm just paying for more data. 2016-03-18T01:31:53 < karlp> oop,s that's thorns 2016-03-18T01:31:55 < karlp> this is mine http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5176743545 2016-03-18T01:32:54 < karlp> ping 1ms for me is kinda spurious though, I live in the capital, and it's fibre. 2016-03-18T01:33:14 < karlp> it's 40ms or so to the UK, so that's starting latency for anything that's not in iceland... 2016-03-18T01:34:24 < jadew> Pinging google.co.uk [62.231.75.246] with 32 bytes of data: 2016-03-18T01:34:24 < jadew> Reply from 62.231.75.246: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=59 2016-03-18T01:35:19 < karlp> crt: hey, bright side, you can get to australian net banks easily :) 2016-03-18T01:36:15 < karlp> huh, 2016-03-18T01:36:25 < karlp> was just going to get pings to NAB, turns out ib.nab.com.au is now on akamai 2016-03-18T01:36:33 < karlp> might be not as sucky as before from 400ms away :) 2016-03-18T01:36:53 < karlp> hehe, nab only pays for akamai in the uk though 2016-03-18T01:37:03 < karlp> smh.com.au is being hosted on akamai in .is ;) 2016-03-18T01:37:12 < karlp> born in .is, grew up in the sunshine state. 2016-03-18T01:39:46 < jadew> http://www.improveaudio.com/index.htm 2016-03-18T01:40:47 < karlp> ahh, there we go, commsec.com.au is 380ms away :) 2016-03-18T01:40:58 < karlp> not many web designers plan things for that sort of latency :) 2016-03-18T01:41:16 < jadew> karlp, I get a timeout 2016-03-18T01:41:37 < karlp> on ping, yeah, it drop sthem, mtr or traceroute will show you 2016-03-18T01:41:55 < jadew> doing a traceroute now 2016-03-18T01:42:00 < jadew> but it goes slow 2016-03-18T01:43:00 < jadew> looks like it goes out through london 2016-03-18T01:43:27 < jadew> and I have a 38ms delay to that gateway, so the google ping was not into an uk server 2016-03-18T01:44:08 < jadew> also, 380 ms latency is not bad if the connection is good 2016-03-18T01:44:30 < karlp> ever used a "modern" web site with taht latency? 2016-03-18T01:44:33 < karlp> it's not good at all. 2016-03-18T01:44:37 < jadew> after the first connection the browser makes, the other connections will be left hanging 2016-03-18T01:44:43 < jadew> (but initiated) 2016-03-18T01:45:01 < jadew> that if the server accepts only one connection at a time 2016-03-18T01:45:16 < jadew> if it accepts more, most of them will go through pretty fast 2016-03-18T01:45:34 < Laurenceb_> www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0752f85 2016-03-18T01:45:34 < karlp> I think youð're talking from assumptions, not experience. 2016-03-18T01:46:39 < jadew> karlp, the only thing I'm not sure on is how long it takes for the data to go through after a new connection has been made available by the server 2016-03-18T01:47:00 < jadew> the connections do hang, while the one connection that made it through is being served 2016-03-18T01:47:17 < jadew> when that's done, the server will accept the next one and it will serve that one too 2016-03-18T01:47:28 < jadew> the point is that part of the TCP handshake is done 2016-03-18T01:47:50 < jadew> and if the server can send both the accept + data in the same packet, the initial latency is greatly reduced 2016-03-18T01:49:00 < karlp> I think you'r enot truly aware of just how much shit gets fucked in the head when it's confronted with great latencies. 2016-03-18T01:49:35 < karlp> half of the UDP blasting tech came up because peter jackson coulnd't utilise bandwidth sending files from nz to la. 2016-03-18T01:49:46 < karlp> "you've got a 10megabit link, what's the problem?" 2016-03-18T01:49:51 < karlp> "shit don't work y0" 2016-03-18T01:50:01 < jadew> UDP is different 2016-03-18T01:50:08 < karlp> you're misunderstanding. 2016-03-18T01:50:18 < karlp> I'm saying they started using UDP ideas _beause_ tcp wasn't working 2016-03-18T01:50:34 < karlp> and you were also saying, "it's no problem" to y web issues. (whcih are tcp) 2016-03-18T01:50:59 < jadew> I didn't say it's not a problem, it's just that it may not be as big as you think 2016-03-18T01:51:15 < karlp> or as I said, I think you're making assumptions that, while reasonable, are not born out by my absolute fucking truth of doign it and having it suck. 2016-03-18T01:51:25 < karlp> I dind't bring this up as a hypothetical, 2016-03-18T01:51:34 < jadew> if once data starts going through, it goes fast, then most of the initial latency is "spent" at the same time by multiple connections 2016-03-18T01:51:53 < jadew> they don't have to incur the initial lantecy _after_ the previous connection was closed 2016-03-18T01:52:26 < karlp> http://mygifgif.tumblr.com/post/127253801959 2016-03-18T01:52:56 < jadew> don't make me build something to test this 2016-03-18T01:53:35 < jadew> there's no reason why this wouldn't be true 2016-03-18T01:54:17 < jadew> when the browser tries to connect to a server to download media, it does it in bluk (multiple connections) 2016-03-18T01:54:26 < jadew> if the server accepts only one connection/ip 2016-03-18T01:54:30 < jadew> it doesn't reject the others 2016-03-18T01:54:48 < jadew> it keeps them hanging until it can do another accept() 2016-03-18T01:55:12 < jadew> so the initial connection packet (with 300 ms of latency) has already been sent and received 2016-03-18T01:55:23 < jadew> it would simply stay in the queue on the server 2016-03-18T01:55:58 < karlp> you're forgetting that a "modern" web page, as I said, likes to make ltos of requests to update parts of the page, ajax all the thigns. 2016-03-18T01:56:09 < karlp> every one of those still gets a 380ms hit. 2016-03-18T01:56:11 < jadew> well, that's different 2016-03-18T01:56:15 < jadew> and yeah 2016-03-18T01:56:22 < karlp> no, it's absoltuely the entire thing I said in the beginning. 2016-03-18T01:56:40 < jadew> I assumed you mean tons of images and a shitload of other files 2016-03-18T01:56:46 < jadew> which is pretty "modern" 2016-03-18T01:57:04 < karlp> what? static files and bulk connections is like 90s web. 2016-03-18T01:57:13 < karlp> and yes, sure, in that case, you get a slow start, then you're fine. 2016-03-18T01:57:47 < jadew> then we agree :) 2016-03-18T01:57:52 < karlp> I guess :) 2016-03-18T01:58:18 < karlp> so, anyone had any experience with the l4 and adc? I can read nice temperature readings and internal temp sensor, but must be missing something from reading external cahnnels. 2016-03-18T01:58:28 < karlp> cubemx shitz are not providing illumination 2016-03-18T02:11:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T02:13:15 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-18T02:28:50 < karlp> ah fuck yes. 2016-03-18T02:29:40 < karlp> GPIO_ASCR wasn't set to actually connect the analog to analog 2016-03-18T02:29:50 < karlp> works now, yay. 2016-03-18T02:32:57 < karlp> no, never found it in cube either, 2016-03-18T02:33:08 < karlp> just decided to scan all the gpio stuff to see if there were any input modes I'd missed 2016-03-18T02:33:17 < karlp> looking at cube was just a waste of time. 2016-03-18T02:38:20 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T02:40:35 -!- PeterM [01906114@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.144.97.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T02:40:58 < Laurenceb_> I suck at c++ continued 2016-03-18T02:41:04 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/xsxjaFEQ 2016-03-18T02:41:04 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T02:41:13 < Laurenceb_> window.cpp:9: error: no matching function for call to 'Window::statusBar(QWidget*&)' 2016-03-18T02:41:30 < Laurenceb_> window.cpp:9: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct QStatusBar' 2016-03-18T02:41:38 < Laurenceb_> if I get rid of parent 2016-03-18T02:42:24 < PeterM> ahhh, so lovely being in the country, where when the wind blows you hear it howl through the trees, and the crack of electricity as powerlines smash together and you get a blackout for who knows how long 2016-03-18T02:43:33 < Laurenceb_> qt makes me rage 2016-03-18T02:46:00 < Sync_> that is how it works 2016-03-18T02:46:01 < Laurenceb_> how do i statusbar 2016-03-18T02:46:20 < Laurenceb_> and why the fuck do i need mainwindow to use statusbar 2016-03-18T02:46:53 < Sync_> can I sell you pro qt engineering tiem? 2016-03-18T02:47:10 < Laurenceb_> it seems easyish to make things work using ui, as everything sort of makes sense 2016-03-18T02:47:18 < Laurenceb_> but the ui design tool makes me rage 2016-03-18T02:47:25 < Laurenceb_> nope I'm not playing sorry :P 2016-03-18T02:48:51 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T02:48:56 < Sync_> well, then rage along 2016-03-18T02:49:00 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T02:49:42 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bogotobogo.com/Qt/Qt5_QStatusBar.php 2016-03-18T02:49:51 < Laurenceb_> if only I could do that with no ui I'd be happy 2016-03-18T02:50:07 -!- PeterM [01906114@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.144.97.20] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 2016-03-18T02:50:31 -!- Peter_M [01906114@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.144.97.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T02:53:39 < Laurenceb_> window.cpp:9: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct QStatusBar' 2016-03-18T02:53:48 < Laurenceb_> I don't even know what that means 2016-03-18T02:54:48 -!- Peter_M [01906114@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.144.97.20] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-18T03:05:26 < upgrdman> how do i swap between mils and mm's in altidongs? 2016-03-18T03:19:08 < dongs> q 2016-03-18T03:28:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/General-electronics-technican/ 2016-03-18T03:28:53 < dongs> > Applicants must be in the Hong Kong, Shenzhen, or at most Dongguan or Guangzhou regions 2016-03-18T03:28:58 < dongs> > guy from Morocco bids 2016-03-18T03:29:05 < dongs> do they even read 2016-03-18T03:32:58 < upgrdman> dongs: is there an easy way to draw a coil symbol, or is it just circles that you have to tweak? 2016-03-18T03:33:31 < upgrdman> dongs, re: link, lol, why is it in english then? 2016-03-18T03:33:59 < dongs> just use arcs or somethin 2016-03-18T03:43:43 < dongs> Did you know? There is a species of octopus called the argonaut. The male stores up sperm in his penis/tentacle and when he finds a mate, he tears it off and gives it to her so that she can, quite literally, go fuck herself. 2016-03-18T03:45:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/project-9965031/ 2016-03-18T03:45:42 < dongs> cool proj, but $8/hr? ya right. 2016-03-18T03:48:08 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-18T03:48:08 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T03:48:09 < dongs> fuck yes 2016-03-18T03:48:19 < dongs> my box of shit arrived ahead of schedule 2016-03-18T03:48:30 < kakimir> dongtacle 2016-03-18T03:49:00 < kakimir> i bettrt slrrp> 2016-03-18T03:49:31 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.171.31] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T03:50:13 < upgrdman> damn. why the fuck are there no calipers here :/ 2016-03-18T03:50:20 < dongs> hobbyking.com 2016-03-18T03:50:26 < dongs> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__4304__HobbyKing_8482_Digital_Vernier_Calipers_150mm.html 2016-03-18T03:50:27 < upgrdman> what's the size of typical perf board holes and anus ring? 2016-03-18T03:50:29 < dongs> go 2016-03-18T03:52:04 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-18T03:53:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T03:55:11 < ohsix> i bought one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orange-80mm-Mini-Plastic-Sliding-Vernier-Caliper-Gauge-Measure-Tool-Ruler-CS5G-/351680123482?hash=item51e1c4d25a: 2016-03-18T03:56:48 < dongs> upgrdman: jameco says 0.08" 2016-03-18T03:57:03 < dongs> fucking freedom units 2016-03-18T03:57:10 < upgrdman> k thx bro 2016-03-18T03:57:28 < upgrdman> i'd be fucking googling this shit, but fuck the net is slow here 2016-03-18T03:58:05 < dongs> isnt google banned in china anyway 2016-03-18T03:58:17 < dongs> more like baidu'ing 2016-03-18T03:59:10 < upgrdman> vpn ftw 2016-03-18T03:59:30 < upgrdman> but ya, i forgot to install vpn shitz on my phone, so on my phone i have to bing it or yahoo it. 100% gay 2016-03-18T04:00:07 < ohsix> what's goign on 2016-03-18T04:00:21 < ohsix> nm, had to read less than i expected 2016-03-18T04:00:42 < upgrdman> im chinagrdman for a lil while 2016-03-18T04:00:46 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-18T04:00:51 < upgrdman> working aborad 2016-03-18T04:00:55 < ohsix> cool 2016-03-18T04:16:10 < upgrdman> dongs, how do i set pcb size. i just want a rectangle, x*y mm 2016-03-18T04:16:20 < dongs> make a rectangle on keepout layer 2016-03-18T04:16:22 < dongs> click one line 2016-03-18T04:16:23 < dongs> tab 2016-03-18T04:16:24 < dongs> dsd 2016-03-18T04:17:20 < ohsix> are you near any of the big electronic trading market centers upgrdman 2016-03-18T04:17:38 < ohsix> i like to think everything i get on ebay is from one building :[ 2016-03-18T04:18:09 < upgrdman> no 2016-03-18T04:18:11 < upgrdman> shanghai 2016-03-18T04:18:19 < upgrdman> im not in shenzhen 2016-03-18T04:18:19 < ohsix> werd 2016-03-18T04:21:16 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.171.31] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T04:21:21 < upgrdman> dongs, current board size is too small 2016-03-18T04:21:37 < dongs> upgrdman: yeah so, like i said 2016-03-18T04:21:41 < dongs> make a new sized outline 2016-03-18T04:21:43 < dongs> select it all 2016-03-18T04:21:45 < dongs> and dsd 2016-03-18T04:21:57 < upgrdman> oh ok, so overhang is fine. cool 2016-03-18T04:23:49 < ohsix> zomg mcmaster carr doesn't have blind plugs 2016-03-18T04:24:45 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.231] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T04:25:04 < ohsix> i think that's the first random part i've looked for that they haven't 2016-03-18T04:27:35 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.231] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-18T04:30:39 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-03-18T05:04:00 < upgrdman> dongs, when routing, if i try to change trace width with shift-w, nothing changes. any ideas? 2016-03-18T05:05:17 < dongs> do you have width rule thats overriding it? 2016-03-18T05:05:21 < dongs> dr->width 2016-03-18T05:07:30 < upgrdman> lol yes 2016-03-18T05:07:35 < upgrdman> mix = max = 10mil. wtf 2016-03-18T05:08:03 < dongs> yeah. 2016-03-18T05:08:05 < dongs> thats dfeault rule. 2016-03-18T05:08:32 < dongs> also if you used tab instead of shiftw you'd notice it said about rule overriding it 2016-03-18T05:12:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-18T05:15:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T05:15:26 < Laurenceb_> oh my god 2016-03-18T05:15:27 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/f27c5XF.jpg 2016-03-18T05:15:33 < Laurenceb_> its finally been exposed 2016-03-18T05:16:20 < Laurenceb_> but I'm so sick of these conspiracy theories 2016-03-18T05:16:58 < ohsix> real old 2016-03-18T05:17:13 < ohsix> when dongs posted it it was old and that was like a month ago 2016-03-18T05:22:10 < upgrdman> dongs, can i force a trace to not bend? 2016-03-18T05:22:38 < upgrdman> like a pad is not aligned to the grid, and i want a straight trace from it to a grid-aligned trace 2016-03-18T05:23:03 < dongs> hold ctrl i guess 2016-03-18T05:23:13 < dongs> then once youre on the right spot, let go and click. 2016-03-18T05:23:25 < dongs> takes a bit of dicking, sometimes it jumps anyway if you move after release ctrl 2016-03-18T05:23:32 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T05:32:45 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-18T05:41:30 < ohsix> what does altiums impedance routing look like 2016-03-18T05:42:55 < ohsix> yea what's it do 2016-03-18T05:43:03 < dongs> it routes 2016-03-18T05:43:14 < ohsix> with just right angles? 2016-03-18T05:44:34 < ohsix> i saw some coolpro very slick curved traces on some stuff and i think that section came out of some fem package 2016-03-18T05:45:16 < ohsix> don't see pictures of it but it looks like it will adjust trace widths and do squiggly lines 2016-03-18T05:46:44 < ohsix> http://www.mbedded.ninja/ wut 2016-03-18T06:09:48 < upgrdman> dongs, on my pcb, the silkscreen shits look green, but there is no green layer. yellow is Top Overlay. is this normal? 2016-03-18T06:10:42 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T06:14:30 < ohsix> isn't display layer color diff from actual layer/silkscreen/mask color 2016-03-18T06:15:34 < dongs> upgrdman: hit L and see, green sounds like one of mech layers 2016-03-18T06:15:45 < dongs> they probably edited the bottom layer list 2016-03-18T06:15:58 < dongs> click the LS button in bottom left of pcb 2016-03-18T06:38:21 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T06:42:43 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-18T06:52:36 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T06:53:06 -!- obnauticus [~obnauticu@unaffiliated/obnauticus] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T06:53:13 < Laurenceb_> ok my c++ failing are showing again 2016-03-18T06:53:14 < Laurenceb_> https://gist.github.com/Laurenceb/70bca44a7fcab8758233 2016-03-18T06:53:25 < Laurenceb_> so I have this copypasta serial port code 2016-03-18T06:53:50 < Laurenceb_> dont know how to call it 2016-03-18T06:54:09 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T06:54:15 < Laurenceb_> usually setLayout(Layout); is needed 2016-03-18T06:54:24 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@75.69.135.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T06:54:46 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T06:55:05 < dongs> holy shit that looks just as awful as I expected 2016-03-18T06:55:19 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-18T06:55:33 < Laurenceb_> I don't get how layout is inside the function 2016-03-18T06:55:58 < Laurenceb_> doesnt that just stick it on stack same as plane old c ? so it no longer exists after function call 2016-03-18T06:56:09 -!- LeelooMinai_ [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T06:56:16 -!- perillamint^fall [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T06:56:16 < dongs> its new'd? 2016-03-18T06:56:19 < dongs> so its a llocated 2016-03-18T06:56:21 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184.175.46.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T06:56:31 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-18T06:56:36 < Laurenceb_> but it doesnt seem to be applied 2016-03-18T06:56:46 < dongs> that i have no fuckin idea 2016-03-18T06:56:56 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-18T06:56:58 < Laurenceb_> PortSelectDialog* ports = new PortSelectDialog; 2016-03-18T06:57:00 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@75.69.135.239] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T06:57:05 < Laurenceb_> does that seem reasonable ^ ? 2016-03-18T06:57:12 < dongs> does it need ()? 2016-03-18T06:57:20 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-03-18T06:57:39 -!- Bright [~brightclo@gayest.horse] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T06:58:24 < Laurenceb_> still draws nothing 2016-03-18T06:58:35 -!- perillamint [~perillami@121.128.220.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T06:59:17 -!- obnauticus [~obnauticu@192.241.240.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T07:04:56 -!- Bright [~brightclo@gayest.horse] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T07:05:27 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T07:08:19 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T07:08:26 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T07:19:17 < Laurenceb_> aha made it sort of work 2016-03-18T07:19:44 < Laurenceb_> just added PortSelectDialog directly to the tabbed dialog 2016-03-18T07:20:04 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@75.69.135.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T07:20:06 < Laurenceb_> but it can't detect any serial ports.. I have several on this machin 2016-03-18T07:21:00 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T07:28:38 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T07:32:21 < upgrdman> dongs, if i modify the footprint of something in my schematic, how do i tell the pcb to recheck the footprint? compile pcb project, and import changes from schematic didnt seem to do it 2016-03-18T07:33:51 < dongs> you dont, goto pcb library, right click that new footprint and 'update pcb' 2016-03-18T07:34:14 < dongs> new = its same name but you changed some junk right? 2016-03-18T07:34:33 < upgrdman> i just moves a silk line 2016-03-18T07:34:36 < upgrdman> moved* 2016-03-18T07:34:37 < dongs> right. 2016-03-18T07:34:42 < dongs> so rightclick>update. 2016-03-18T07:34:51 < dongs> from pcblibrary 2016-03-18T07:35:33 < upgrdman> beautiful. thx 2016-03-18T07:39:09 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T07:43:54 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-18T07:47:55 < dongs> there's also footprint manager or smth where you can do bulk updates 2016-03-18T07:48:05 < dongs> but if its just one thing its easier to do it that way 2016-03-18T08:04:19 < Laurenceb_> wow it works 2016-03-18T08:04:33 < Laurenceb_> this is way smarted than I expected, it sanity checks found devices 2016-03-18T08:07:11 < Laurenceb_> "Description: " "TTL232R-3V3" 2016-03-18T08:07:23 < Laurenceb_> "Manufacturer: " "FTDI" 2016-03-18T08:07:34 < Laurenceb_> had to stick in some legit FTDI for it to work 2016-03-18T08:08:42 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T08:13:03 < emeb_mac> where do you find "legit" FTDI? 2016-03-18T08:13:34 < ds2> at the legit FTDI store where they only sell legit FTDI 2016-03-18T08:13:39 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-18T08:13:58 < emeb_mac> It's just so simple! 2016-03-18T08:14:17 < ds2> you only getfake ones if you goto the fake FTDI store 2016-03-18T08:14:44 < emeb_mac> the prices are lower, but the lines are longer 2016-03-18T08:14:51 < ds2> where all the sales people wear trench coats, dark glasses, and fedoras and the entire store is dimly lite 2016-03-18T08:15:35 < emeb_mac> and the products are liable to stop working when FTDI updates their drivers 2016-03-18T08:16:20 < ds2> listen to the wise old man sitting at the fork of the road to the 2 stores... one store always tells the truth and the other store always lies. 2016-03-18T08:18:51 < ohsix> the qtserialport code actually checks for ftdi devices 2016-03-18T08:18:52 < lorenzo> legit ftdi 2016-03-18T08:18:54 < lorenzo> is that even a thing 2016-03-18T08:24:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-192.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T08:24:17 < jpa-> ohsix: what does it do for them? 2016-03-18T08:32:10 < ohsix> nothing that looked interesting, i pasted a link the other day when they were just starting, let me find it 2016-03-18T08:33:03 < ohsix> https://github.com/qtproject/qtserialport/blob/dev/src/serialport/qserialportinfo_win.cpp#L251 2016-03-18T08:35:38 < ohsix> other devices probably got skipped for some other reason 2016-03-18T08:35:49 < jpa-> so just getting some ids 2016-03-18T08:40:08 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T08:40:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-192.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-18T08:42:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T08:44:54 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T08:47:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-18T08:54:05 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T08:56:59 < upgrdman> dongs, i get DRC errors for a device because it things the device takes up space by its bounding box, but the device is a big L shaped piece of shit. how do i fix this? 2016-03-18T08:57:19 < upgrdman> e.g. it things the device overlaps others, but it does not because it's L shaped 2016-03-18T08:57:25 < dongs> you can draw 3d model on top of footprint or turn off collisions 2016-03-18T08:57:52 < dongs> if you put 2 boxes on top of footprint in 3d mode to match the space it uses up, it will pass drc. 2016-03-18T08:58:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T08:58:06 < upgrdman> ahh wonderful 2016-03-18T08:58:28 < upgrdman> boxes go on mech1 layer, right? 2016-03-18T08:58:39 < dongs> i stick them on 13 but there's no specific rule really. 2016-03-18T09:04:02 < ohsix> calculator nerd stuff: http://www.rskey.org/~mwsebastian/miscprj/forensics.htm 2016-03-18T09:15:15 < dongs> uhh shouldnt result be 9 2016-03-18T09:18:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T09:22:32 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T09:22:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T09:30:06 < ohsix> it would if it was infinite precision and sin/cos was perfect 2016-03-18T09:30:19 < ohsix> but that stuff is usually done with a table and interpolation or recursion 2016-03-18T09:30:26 < ohsix> and bcd 2016-03-18T09:30:54 < ohsix> basically just asking the 3 tables and arctan/sin/cos tables what's in them 2016-03-18T09:31:55 < ohsix> takes a pretty long time to get an answer on the fx115es plus 2016-03-18T09:32:23 < ohsix> i wonder if it doesn't do recursion for a limited time instead of limited number 2016-03-18T09:37:56 < ohsix> kind of feeling the math nerd bug contemplating how many ways you can calculate sine 2016-03-18T09:38:42 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T09:40:12 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-18T09:41:17 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T09:42:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T09:43:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.155] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T09:51:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:813e:6c11:a185:36c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T10:35:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T10:37:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:813e:6c11:a185:36c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-18T10:53:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T10:54:31 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T10:58:50 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T11:04:29 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-18T11:04:29 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T11:05:44 -!- s1ck [~s1ck@109.235.226.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-18T11:38:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.17] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T11:54:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-18T12:08:21 -!- Alexer- [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T12:13:11 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T12:15:17 < dongs> http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/bfs/5490043257.html totally legit 2016-03-18T12:20:38 < PeterM> aww shit wanting to buy money 2016-03-18T12:22:08 < dongs> dongs 2016-03-18T12:22:21 < PeterM> why the shit are leadless micro packages so uncommon/much more expensive 2016-03-18T12:22:39 < dongs> what teh fuck are those? 2016-03-18T12:22:41 < dongs> LFCSP or wahtever? 2016-03-18T12:23:00 < PeterM> leadless is anything without a lead, so dnf/qfn, bga, whatever 2016-03-18T12:23:15 < zyp> uncommon? 2016-03-18T12:23:47 < PeterM> compared to leaded, yeah 2016-03-18T12:24:17 < dongs> did you drop a flux capacitor 2016-03-18T12:24:21 < zyp> how is it uncommon? 2016-03-18T12:24:42 < jpa-> bga and qfn are pretty common and seems about similar price to me 2016-03-18T12:24:49 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-18T12:25:08 < dongs> I"m sure STM in bga would have been totally common if ST didn't fuck up and make it like 0.4mm pitch 2016-03-18T12:25:30 < dongs> I would use 7x7 bga at 0.8mm pitch over 48qfp ~anyday~ 2016-03-18T12:25:30 < zyp> well, I use qfp because that keeps board complexity lower 2016-03-18T12:25:40 < PeterM> dongs how much does your chinagirl want for a stm32f103c8t6 vs same spec stm32f103 in dfn/qfn? 2016-03-18T12:25:47 < jpa-> tqfp is also easier to probe 2016-03-18T12:25:57 < zyp> when area isn't a premium, qfp is easier to work with 2016-03-18T12:26:08 < zyp> so it gets bought more, and therefore becomes cheaper 2016-03-18T12:26:21 < dongs> PeterM: i bout some 5x5bgas of F103 they were spendy-ish. problem wiht qfn stm32 is that nobodyt uses them. so the demand is low, price is high 2016-03-18T12:26:24 < zyp> cheaper and more available 2016-03-18T12:26:33 < dongs> yea wat zyp said. 2016-03-18T12:26:37 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T12:26:49 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T12:27:31 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/tool/lm_partlibrary_altium ! 2016-03-18T12:27:43 < PeterM> btu is the demand low bacause the price is high? 2016-03-18T12:27:57 < dongs> well, in case of stm demand is low beacuse its 0.4mm pitch trash 2016-03-18T12:28:05 < dongs> nobody is go nna put a $1 part on a HDI board 2016-03-18T12:28:29 < dongs> need to do change.org 2016-03-18T12:28:37 < dongs> force stm to expand pitch to 0.8mm 2016-03-18T12:28:55 < dongs> Fwd: Re: CC: President Obama 2016-03-18T12:30:24 < dongs> holy shit 2016-03-18T12:30:28 < dongs> that altidong lib is export controlled 2016-03-18T12:30:41 < zyp> PeterM, no, it's because it's harder to work with 2016-03-18T12:30:41 < dongs> I certify that the following is true: 2016-03-18T12:30:48 < dongs> (a) I understand that this Software/Tool/Document is subject to export controls under the U.S. Commerce Department’s Export Administration Regulations ("EAR"). 2016-03-18T12:30:51 < dongs> (b) I am NOT located in Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan or Syria. I understand these are prohibited destination countries under the EAR or U.S. sanctions regulations. 2016-03-18T12:34:21 < PeterM> zyp DNF isn't really harder to work wiht than qfp, i understand bga but not dfn 2016-03-18T12:36:05 < jpa-> PeterM: how do you probe DFN/QFN? 2016-03-18T12:36:16 < PeterM> with your probes 2016-03-18T12:36:25 < PeterM> unless you have huge as fuck shit probes 2016-03-18T12:36:48 < jpa-> i mean clipping probes, no-one holds the probe to pin while doing work 2016-03-18T12:37:18 < PeterM> you dont have thin pgogo probes? 2016-03-18T12:37:55 < jpa-> i'm just interested on your setup, i haven't seen an useful QFN probe setup so far 2016-03-18T12:38:17 < jpa-> whereas tqfp you can either use cheap-ass pieces of pcb or fancy micrograbbers, both of which work fine 2016-03-18T12:39:00 < zyp> qfn with bottom pad tends to be harder to route since you can't fit vias under the chip 2016-03-18T12:39:23 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T12:39:50 < jpa-> also qfn seems less reliable in manufacturing, though one could probably blame crappy manufacturing processes 2016-03-18T12:40:33 < jpa-> so far i haven't seen any soldering trouble with tqfp, but two work projects have had some 1-5% fails due to QFN shortcircuits with wrong paste amount 2016-03-18T12:41:53 < zyp> yeah, qfn is very sensitive to footprint and paste amount 2016-03-18T12:44:11 < PeterM> i can certainly understand the no vias under chip thing, i dunno why st needs metal slug in bottom qfn 2016-03-18T12:49:21 < dongs> or atmel 2016-03-18T12:49:24 < dongs> or anyone else using qfn 2016-03-18T12:51:54 < PeterM> i understand it for power devices but not micros and digital stuff 2016-03-18T12:52:15 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-18T12:53:04 < dongs> its probably wahtever packaging fab they use 2016-03-18T12:53:13 < dongs> they dont get a choice 2016-03-18T12:53:23 < dongs> same shit like invensense 2016-03-18T12:53:33 < dongs> they evne put a note in datasheet, that center pad must NOT be soldered to 2016-03-18T12:53:44 < dongs> obvious answer would be: dont fucking put it there, rite??? 2016-03-18T12:54:15 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T13:00:01 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T13:03:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-18T13:04:26 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T13:11:52 < dongs> PEN DRAIN IO 2016-03-18T13:11:57 < dongs> ^ actually in datasheet. 2016-03-18T13:13:42 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T13:15:28 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T13:21:04 < qyx> mhm, actually I like qfn more than tqfp 2016-03-18T13:21:16 < qyx> for hand soldering 2016-03-18T13:21:27 < qyx> it is harder to do solder bridges 2016-03-18T13:21:47 < PeterM> yeah, and its super easy to hot air too 2016-03-18T13:22:01 < qyx> I just use footprints with longer pads 2016-03-18T13:23:41 < PeterM> yeah oyu can do that, but its even easier with hot air 2016-03-18T13:25:39 < jpa-> those QFN's where the pad is not visible at the chip edge are painful, though 2016-03-18T13:27:07 < PeterM> yeah, hence why i hot air, they're super easywith hot air 2016-03-18T13:27:46 < jpa-> how do you align them? 2016-03-18T13:28:02 < zyp> don't they self align? 2016-03-18T13:28:07 < zyp> also chip outline in silk 2016-03-18T13:29:10 < qyx> they do with proper amount of flux 2016-03-18T13:29:53 < qyx> er, but I do hotair without soldering paste 2016-03-18T13:32:01 < PeterM> they self align jsut fine, tion the pads, flux the board, put the qfn down, hot air it, tap it once or twice to make sure all the pads grab and oyu're done 2016-03-18T13:32:18 < dongs> wot 2016-03-18T13:32:21 < dongs> @ qyx 2016-03-18T13:32:30 < dongs> hotair without paste = do you use nasty chinahasl 2016-03-18T13:32:51 < dongs> man i got a chianboard few weeks ago 2016-03-18T13:33:00 < dongs> holy fuck the hasl coating ias nasty on them 2016-03-18T13:33:24 < dongs> its like bumpy as shit and whatever solder it is, its like anti-reacting with my solder paste and making it total shit 2016-03-18T13:33:55 < zyp> haha 2016-03-18T13:34:10 < dongs> awful, awful stuff. i have no idea how MAKE:Rs do it 2016-03-18T13:34:19 < dongs> not touching any chinapcb ever again 2016-03-18T13:34:22 < qyx> dongs: no, HAL + lead solder, I presolder the pads before 2016-03-18T13:34:46 < qyx> apply flux and use hot air 2016-03-18T13:35:00 < PeterM> yeah i tin the pads too 2016-03-18T13:36:53 < jpa-> they self align if you are initially close enough, but with 0.5mm pitch and crappy silks that is not so easy 2016-03-18T13:41:15 < PeterM> i usually dont have an issue with it for qfn, but for bga it is a hassle, so i put allignment mark in copper 2016-03-18T13:42:15 < jpa-> i hate those no-edge-pad qfns, impossible to check for proper soldering 2016-03-18T13:42:19 < jpa-> (without xray) 2016-03-18T13:45:13 < PeterM> for botrototype you can jtag + probe the opposite end 2016-03-18T13:46:05 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-18T13:46:54 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T13:54:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-85.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T13:54:18 < tecdroid> TecLador[IMP] 2016-03-18T13:54:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-85.customers.d1-online.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-18T13:55:50 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T13:57:30 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T14:03:39 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T14:06:46 < dongs> another pumper 2016-03-18T14:07:52 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T14:08:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.81] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T14:13:50 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-18T14:19:29 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T14:26:09 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T14:30:25 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T14:33:24 < dongs> My name is Merrilee. 2016-03-18T14:33:24 < dongs> I am thinking that you might be interested in my agnaa dot com since 2016-03-18T14:33:24 < dongs> you do own a related domain name. 2016-03-18T14:33:26 < dongs> Appreciate if you would let me know and thank you for your time, 2016-03-18T14:33:39 < dongs> pretty sure GNAA has nothing to do with agnaa 2016-03-18T14:33:42 < zyp> haha 2016-03-18T14:48:31 < zyp> advanced gnaa 2016-03-18T14:52:58 -!- Mikk36 [~Mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-18T14:57:12 < dongs> see what you did, pumper? 2016-03-18T14:57:15 < dongs> made him ragequit 2016-03-18T15:01:59 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T15:02:54 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T15:10:04 < kakimir> why doesn't my lpcexpresso have cmsis core for lpc15 2016-03-18T15:10:06 < kakimir> ? 2016-03-18T15:10:14 < kakimir> is it same core with some other series? 2016-03-18T15:12:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T15:12:28 < kakimir> I initialize project and pick up cmsis_core_latest.zip 2016-03-18T15:12:34 < kakimir> then I have import windoe 2016-03-18T15:12:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-85.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T15:12:52 < kakimir> it does have everything else but lpc15xx core 2016-03-18T15:15:55 < kakimir> cmsis core is referred in lpcxpresso as "legacy" 2016-03-18T15:16:11 < kakimir> when as their LPCopen is not 2016-03-18T15:17:25 < kakimir> you are very wise crt 2016-03-18T15:22:12 < dongs> incoming freelancer links 2016-03-18T15:24:10 < kakimir> fukken freelancers my email is ruined 2016-03-18T15:25:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T15:27:31 < kakimir> it should seperate only viable and interesting projects 2016-03-18T15:27:35 < kakimir> to my email feed 2016-03-18T15:27:50 < kakimir> instead it spams all the shit 2016-03-18T15:28:03 < mitrax> everytime i subscribe somewhere i create an alias for it 2016-03-18T15:28:11 < jpa-> put it into separate folder, and if you have a smart email client like gmail you can probably even teach it to sort it somewhat 2016-03-18T15:28:44 < jpa-> like match on SMA 2016-03-18T15:28:59 < dongs> wow 2016-03-18T15:29:05 < dongs> NOTHING useful to link on feelancer. 2016-03-18T15:29:11 < dongs> like not even any funny junk 2016-03-18T15:31:30 < dongs> i wish this fucker would go away https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Mobile-Phone/Application-access-the-change-9978728/ 2016-03-18T15:31:36 < dongs> every fuckign day he posts this trash 2016-03-18T15:31:41 < dongs> and it gets deleted or soemthing wahtever 2016-03-18T15:32:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Social-Networking/Find-Supplier-9975695/ this gu is back 2016-03-18T15:37:02 < kakimir> mitrax: nice idea 2016-03-18T15:37:39 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T15:37:46 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T15:38:15 < mitrax> kakimir: that way not only i know who's selling the email address but then you can just kill the alias if i get spam on it 2016-03-18T15:38:23 < mitrax> err you can / i can 2016-03-18T15:38:36 -!- barthess 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enough to remove it, yeah 2016-03-18T15:43:39 < kakimir> and leaves with kike@gmail.com 2016-03-18T15:44:02 < kakimir> and spam hard to gmail filters 2016-03-18T15:44:16 < kakimir> I rarely see anything come thru those filters 2016-03-18T15:44:31 < jpa-> who would send you email anyway 2016-03-18T15:44:48 < karlp> mitrax: I used to use separate aliaeas for everyone, but what do you do if the company sells your email anyway? 2016-03-18T15:45:53 < kakimir> jpa-: you have a point 2016-03-18T15:46:39 < mitrax> karlp: how do you mean? say you create an alias email_for_site_foo@yourmaildomain.com if you get spam on it you just delete the alias, the point is not to give out the real address 2016-03-18T15:47:12 < zyp> too much work 2016-03-18T15:47:34 < mitrax> bah it takes 5 sec 2016-03-18T15:47:44 < zyp> just use gmail, their filter sorts correctly for >99% of incoming mail 2016-03-18T15:47:45 < jpa-> i use @anything.mail.domain.com, spammers don't know to remove that.. and i have set it up so that all new aliases get through spam filter without check, until i block them 2016-03-18T15:48:00 < jpa-> that way by using aliases, i also make sure that nothing useful gets lost in spam 2016-03-18T15:48:11 < mitrax> hell i don't want to use gmail 2016-03-18T15:48:29 < kakimir> I added alias for my formal email address 2016-03-18T15:48:43 < kakimir> I had to buy it basically to get firstname surname 2016-03-18T15:49:45 < kakimir> 30euros for 2 email aliases and 2 web page aliases 2016-03-18T15:49:50 < kakimir> forever* 2016-03-18T15:50:44 < kakimir> can it be that there is no cmsis for certain mcu series? 2016-03-18T15:50:47 < kakimir> this smells 2016-03-18T15:51:10 < kakimir> usually there is a dialog to choose cmsis driver for project 2016-03-18T15:51:35 < kakimir> but when I selected lpc15 there was only dialog for DSPLIB 2016-03-18T15:51:36 < mitrax> this is the internet where technically everybody can host his own shit and have control over it... but no, everybody put their shit on google 2016-03-18T15:52:05 < kakimir> does all stm32 have cmsis? 2016-03-18T15:52:26 < kakimir> not only the chip you dont care about 2016-03-18T15:54:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-18T16:01:28 < kakimir> how can this happen 2016-03-18T16:01:37 < kakimir> this suck 2016-03-18T16:04:15 < ReadError> uhhh 2016-03-18T16:04:16 < ReadError> update it? 2016-03-18T16:05:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-85.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T16:07:37 < kakimir> let's try such 2016-03-18T16:10:26 < kakimir> can you even replace cmsis with anything other thing? 2016-03-18T16:10:36 < kakimir> lib 2016-03-18T16:16:42 < karlp> mitrax: no, I mean the problem is when a company that you need to do business with has lost or sold your email. 2016-03-18T16:16:49 < karlp> you can't jsut toss the emali address. 2016-03-18T16:17:01 < karlp> so, yes, you know the company is imperfect, but... what else can you do? 2016-03-18T16:17:13 < karlp> you just have more email aliases to track and logins to rememebr. 2016-03-18T16:17:30 < karlp> I used to do it, but now I've just moved everything to one email, and let spam filters deal with it. 2016-03-18T16:18:16 < karlp> also, I dind't want to spend my life editing email filters and turning on and off aliases 2016-03-18T16:18:16 < mitrax> karlp: i don't have any login to remember, i have one email and multiple aliases, and sure i can toss an alias if i get spam on it, but as i said i only do it when i subscribe to online stuff 2016-03-18T16:18:32 < artag> if you've used tagged email addresses, you should be able to filter out everything to that address that doesn't come from the company you gave it to 2016-03-18T16:18:37 < karlp> yeah, I mean when you need that alias to login to that online service. 2016-03-18T16:19:08 < mitrax> karlp: oh well it's pretty obvious, i use the service name 2016-03-18T16:20:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has 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something i jsut use the search function 2016-03-18T16:39:39 < Thorn> blame php coders who google "email validation regex" and use the first stackoverflow answer that comes up 2016-03-18T16:40:07 < dongs> yea 2016-03-18T16:41:32 < PeterM> oh oyur emailaddress is bgdwiepp,0,0); DROP DATABASE 2016-03-18T16:43:24 < Sync_> properly checking for RFC compliant mails is hard™ 2016-03-18T16:46:14 < dongs> some figure skating liev ins on at some eurotrash place 2016-03-18T16:47:06 < dongs> in Debrecen, Hungary. 2016-03-18T16:51:09 < kakimir> it was as I said 2016-03-18T16:52:42 < kakimir> cm3 cmsis core has been bundled into lpcopen 2016-03-18T16:55:52 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T16:57:20 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T16:57:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-18T16:58:05 -!- barthess 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180degrees compared to another one you need to cross wires 2016-03-18T18:30:31 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T18:32:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.17] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T18:35:45 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T18:39:30 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.25.73.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T18:39:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T18:49:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-18T18:54:35 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/PJryRq7.jpg 2016-03-18T18:58:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T19:01:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T19:03:51 < kakimir> I wonder if there is some hot snot gun that outputs literally burning hot glue 2016-03-18T19:04:19 < kakimir> that melts into things and is really liquid 2016-03-18T19:04:46 < englishman> here you go innovimir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZOQjOgPiY 2016-03-18T19:05:19 < kakimir> 3d cucking 2016-03-18T19:08:15 < kakimir> hmm haedphone fix done 2016-03-18T19:08:23 < kakimir> I need to change right and left 2016-03-18T19:08:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-192.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-18T19:09:11 < kakimir> I wont solder anything anymore 2016-03-18T19:09:21 < kakimir> just flip headphones 2016-03-18T19:15:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-18T19:28:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T19:55:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T20:02:49 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-18T20:10:36 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed 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Fritzl tech 2016-03-18T21:08:06 < kakimir> I made these headphones effectivelly k701->k702 2016-03-18T21:14:57 < Laurenceb_> eek sexist http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/16/11246488/ula-brett-tobey-tory-bruno-sexist-comments-blue-origin-aerojet-rocketdyne 2016-03-18T21:15:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-03-18T21:19:43 < ohsix> jadew: you're supposed to keep the elfs/healers in the back 2016-03-18T21:25:14 < jadew> ohsix, haha 2016-03-18T21:26:12 < ohsix> which might also be sexist but it's the genre yay 2016-03-18T21:27:58 < Laurenceb_> elf is sexist because 2016-03-18T21:30:54 < Steffanx> Aren't you i need of help Laurenceb_? You are nicer when you are in need of help. 2016-03-18T21:34:02 < Steffanx> *friendlier. 2016-03-18T21:34:16 < Steffanx> Qt thing done yet? 2016-03-18T21:36:34 < kakimir> Laurenceb - triggered 2016-03-18T21:53:30 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-18T22:00:08 < Laurenceb_> not a chance 2016-03-18T22:00:12 < Laurenceb_> still raging at Qt 2016-03-18T22:07:42 -!- la [779da513@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.165.19] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T22:08:24 < la> http://oortr.com/ZjllYz 2016-03-18T22:08:28 -!- la [779da513@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.165.19] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-18T22:08:55 < ohsix> can't wait to click 2016-03-18T22:13:50 -!- LeelooMinai_ is now known as LeelooMinai 2016-03-18T22:14:44 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-18T22:17:30 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.171.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T22:23:47 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maximum area possible for such connector I wont even touch 2016-03-18T23:25:34 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T23:25:34 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-18T23:25:34 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-03-18T23:25:37 < kakimir> looks enought solid for someone doing some config tricks with temporally connection to it 2016-03-18T23:25:39 -!- Sync_ [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T23:25:48 -!- Sync [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T23:26:18 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T23:26:18 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-18T23:26:18 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Mar 18 23:26:18 2016 --- Log opened Fri Mar 18 23:26:26 2016 2016-03-18T23:26:26 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T23:26:26 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 125 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 124 normal] 2016-03-18T23:27:05 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T23:27:53 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 93 secs 2016-03-18T23:30:55 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T23:37:55 < Laurenceb_> lol Qt forum adverts for jobs at GCHQ 2016-03-18T23:38:11 < Laurenceb_> they must be writing a G.U.I. to track I.P. addresses 2016-03-18T23:38:57 < Laurenceb_> or maybe they got really ambitious and are planning to browse I.R.C. 2016-03-18T23:39:52 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ all done with Qt 2016-03-18T23:50:52 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-18T23:51:39 < kakimir> I'm sorry to hurt your feelings but I change to infineon mcu in this project 2016-03-18T23:51:55 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by 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smallest ethernet mcu around that 5usd/1k 2016-03-19T00:12:20 < kakimir> 64pin 2016-03-19T00:12:42 < Lux> but their software sucks really bad imo 2016-03-19T00:16:21 < kakimir> what software? 2016-03-19T00:16:30 < Lux> dave 2016-03-19T00:16:34 < Lux> there isn't much else 2016-03-19T00:16:35 < kakimir> I didn't know you need their software 2016-03-19T00:16:51 < Lux> there is no stdlib like for stm32 2016-03-19T00:16:58 < Lux> at least no where as extensive 2016-03-19T00:18:24 < Lux> sure, if you want to do register level coding you don't need it ;) 2016-03-19T00:20:36 < Laurenceb_> how do I check if two c++ lists are identical? 2016-03-19T00:25:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-19T00:27:13 < Steffanx> Qlist => a == b :) 2016-03-19T00:29:22 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-19T00:30:40 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-03-19T00:31:02 < Laurenceb_> /opt/Qt/5.5/gcc/include/QtCore/qlist.h:816: error: no match for 'operator==' in 'i->QList::Node::t [with T = QSerialPortInfo]() == li->QList::Node::t [with T = QSerialPortInfo]()' 2016-03-19T00:31:24 < Laurenceb_> I'm comparing types: 2016-03-19T00:31:26 < Laurenceb_> QList serialPortInfoList_ = QSerialPortInfo::availablePorts(); 2016-03-19T00:31:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-19T00:32:24 < Steffanx> i guess there is no == operator for QSerialPortInfo 2016-03-19T00:32:39 < Laurenceb_> ok I sort of understand 2016-03-19T00:32:52 < Laurenceb_> so what if I just compare port names as a string list? 2016-03-19T00:33:45 < Steffanx> why you wnat to compare those lists? 2016-03-19T00:34:10 < Laurenceb_> do see if anything important has changed with the port ocnfig 2016-03-19T00:34:15 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.170.99] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T00:34:18 < Laurenceb_> like a device being removed or added 2016-03-19T00:34:43 < kakimir> Lux: but sure there must be some 2016-03-19T00:35:07 < Laurenceb_> need to have a loop that goes through a populates a big string with all the port info? 2016-03-19T00:37:51 < Steffanx> uh what? 2016-03-19T00:39:12 < kakimir> stoned 2016-03-19T00:39:44 < Lux> kakimir: there is XMC™ Lib 2016-03-19T00:39:58 < Lux> seems more complete now than the last time i looked at it 2016-03-19T00:40:03 < Laurenceb_> yay it works :D 2016-03-19T00:40:37 < Laurenceb_> foreach(const QSerialPortInfo &serialPortInfo, serialPortInfoList) { portstring.append(serialPortInfo.portName()); } 2016-03-19T00:41:27 < Laurenceb_> I should probably put a sort in there, but if the order of the ports changes something has probably changed with the available devices 2016-03-19T00:41:58 < kakimir> Lux: http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/microcontroller/32-bit-industrial-microcontroller-based-on-arm-registered-cortex-registered-m/xmc-development-tools-software-tools-and-partner/software-downloads/channel.html?channel=db3a30433b47825b013b4b9e224a0de6 there is this CMSIS pack 2016-03-19T00:42:09 < kakimir> CMSIS PACK XMC4000 2016-03-19T00:42:24 < Steffanx> lol building a string and comparing that Laurenceb_? 2016-03-19T00:42:26 < Laurenceb_> infineon arm, interesting 2016-03-19T00:42:31 < Laurenceb_> Steffanx: yup 2016-03-19T00:42:39 < Steffanx> Pro++ 2016-03-19T00:42:43 < kakimir> infineon = ex siemens 2016-03-19T00:42:44 < Lux> kakimir: ah ok you use keil 2016-03-19T00:42:54 < Laurenceb_> just stick all the port names on a string 2016-03-19T00:42:56 < kakimir> I dont 2016-03-19T00:43:25 < Lux> but cmsis pack is for keil 2016-03-19T00:43:28 < kakimir> you can import stuff from that pack to multiple different tools 2016-03-19T00:46:21 < Lux> i didn't get that 2016-03-19T00:46:25 < Lux> looks useable 2016-03-19T00:46:41 < Laurenceb_> why is it better than F4? 2016-03-19T00:46:49 < Lux> the peripherals are better 2016-03-19T00:46:54 < Laurenceb_> looks worse in every aspect to me, apart from the delta sigma thing 2016-03-19T00:47:02 < Laurenceb_> like which ones?! 2016-03-19T00:47:14 < Lux> otherwise a downside is no bootloader rom like stm32 2016-03-19T00:47:30 < Lux> you can do more with the serial stuff etc 2016-03-19T00:47:31 < kakimir> ethernet on 64pin pack 2016-03-19T00:47:49 < kakimir> and does F4 run 200Mhz? 2016-03-19T00:48:18 < Steffanx> Almost. 2016-03-19T00:48:22 < Lux> 180 2016-03-19T00:48:31 < Steffanx> but i bet i can do 200 2016-03-19T00:48:55 < kakimir> there is high propability 2016-03-19T00:49:02 < kakimir> how about mem figures 2016-03-19T00:49:07 < kakimir> 80 and 512 2016-03-19T00:49:11 < kakimir> kB 2016-03-19T00:49:14 < Laurenceb_> I don't see any advantages 2016-03-19T00:49:58 < kakimir> wait 2016-03-19T00:50:18 < kakimir> I already have 64pin stm32 2016-03-19T00:50:23 < kakimir> with ethernet 2016-03-19T00:50:36 < kakimir> Iäm seriously stoned 2016-03-19T00:50:41 < Lux> heh 2016-03-19T00:51:28 < Laurenceb_> i was going to say 2016-03-19T00:51:43 < kakimir> It's in my schematic already 2016-03-19T00:52:02 < kakimir> and I started looking for something ele 2016-03-19T00:53:05 < kakimir> I had this idea in my head it was 80pin 2016-03-19T00:57:38 < kakimir> I have this thing I can do layout and schematics for 4-5days and then I become stoned 2016-03-19T00:57:58 < kakimir> just drifting 2016-03-19T01:13:03 < Steffanx> fresh air time kakimir 2016-03-19T01:13:27 < kakimir> especially when there is lot of changes on the fly and task is challenging and there is this sensation of urgency 2016-03-19T01:19:04 < kakimir> nobody pays me to have that 2016-03-19T01:31:52 < kakimir> #stm32-therapy 2016-03-19T01:32:25 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/445/651005136421-537802.pdf I wonder if that can take any force at all 2016-03-19T01:34:20 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-pcs-Mini-USB-Type-B-Female-5-Pin-DIP-2-pin-Vertical-Leg-PCB-Socket-Connector-/141787599373 ultimate winner by price 2016-03-19T01:34:42 < dongs> WORST 2016-03-19T01:35:42 < kakimir> würsth! 2016-03-19T01:36:27 < kakimir> I can imagine how that becomes loose instantly when any force of even vibration is applied 2016-03-19T01:37:16 < dongs> you won't get to that point 2016-03-19T01:37:53 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFw6JW_A5XU cat hates tigers 2016-03-19T01:38:05 < kakimir> dongs: what are you implying? 2016-03-19T01:38:48 < dongs> you are concerned about things that will have no immediate or long-term effect on you. 2016-03-19T01:38:52 < dongs> another words, assburgering 2016-03-19T01:39:43 < kakimir> hhmmm 2016-03-19T01:40:07 < kakimir> at least I'm in constructive thinking mode 2016-03-19T01:40:15 < kakimir> not totally stoned assburgering 2016-03-19T01:47:27 < ohsix> this guy 2016-03-19T02:01:20 < kakimir> dongs: how is your day? 2016-03-19T02:04:32 < kakimir> is there any cool way to device without reference to measure it's own supply voltage? 2016-03-19T02:04:45 < kakimir> device = some stm32 2016-03-19T02:06:28 < kakimir> have some RC with zener and measure time when it levels out? 2016-03-19T02:19:09 < jadew> I finished writing a header file that completely screws up visual assist 2016-03-19T02:19:32 < jadew> whenever I open it and try to write something everything stops working properly, I can't type , 2016-03-19T02:19:42 < jadew> auto correct overwrites shit 2016-03-19T02:19:48 < jadew> the file saves, but it doesn't 2016-03-19T02:20:19 < jadew> had to write it with out pretty colors 2016-03-19T02:30:17 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T03:05:07 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.170.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-19T03:06:42 < kakimir> I have on ADC channel to waste 2016-03-19T03:06:44 < kakimir> left 2016-03-19T03:07:14 -!- 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clock for ethernets 2016-03-19T03:48:55 < kakimir> hmm or what 2016-03-19T03:49:12 < kakimir> PPS would say 1 per second 2016-03-19T03:51:10 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-19T03:52:31 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T03:53:04 < kakimir> almost had whoopsie ther 2016-03-19T03:54:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-19T03:55:27 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.169.0] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T03:58:31 < dongs> http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/02/18/Japan-police-arrest-Tokyo-businessman-for-North-Korea-trade/1961455817228/ RIP 2016-03-19T03:59:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T04:05:01 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used Qserialport? 2016-03-19T04:05:15 < Laurenceb_> its confusing me, not sure how to handle disconnection (error 9) 2016-03-19T04:05:26 < Laurenceb_> atm I'm not doing anything, which seems to work ok 2016-03-19T04:05:56 < Laurenceb_> but if the device disconnects, I get an error 9 on disconnect, then when I try to connect from GUI it gives error 9 then connectes ok 2016-03-19T04:05:59 < Laurenceb_> weird 2016-03-19T04:08:32 < kakimir> you can google anything about stm32 and you find pages full of mumble 2016-03-19T04:08:59 < ohsix> what's mumble 2016-03-19T04:11:12 < kakimir> idunno 2016-03-19T04:11:21 < kakimir> sleep> 2016-03-19T04:22:50 < dongs> http://www.sunnyqi.com/upLoad/product/month_1308/AZ1045-04FRTG.pdf haha 2016-03-19T04:22:55 < dongs> amazing microelectronic corp 2016-03-19T04:23:15 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T04:24:25 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-19T04:29:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-19T04:33:05 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T04:34:20 < dongs> hmm, that part is cheaper than RCLAMP0524P.TCT 2016-03-19T04:38:12 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/need-someone-write-grant-proposal/ 2016-03-19T04:38:16 < dongs> ... 2016-03-19T04:38:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/Phone-like-PCB-design-for/ Laurenceb_ BEEP 2016-03-19T04:39:50 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-19T04:39:55 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2016-03-19T04:39:59 < dongs> lol 2016-03-19T04:40:04 < Laurenceb_> no LTE on mine tho lol 2016-03-19T04:40:23 < dongs> ur getting outsourced 2016-03-19T04:40:24 < Laurenceb_> lol the budget 2016-03-19T04:40:27 < Laurenceb_> nope 2016-03-19T04:40:39 < dongs> ya the budget is hilarious 2016-03-19T04:40:47 < Laurenceb_> my budget is 2 orders of mag larger 2016-03-19T04:43:11 < dongs> its like 2016-03-19T04:43:16 < dongs> RF, FCC, LTE 2016-03-19T04:43:20 < dongs> > 750 budget 2016-03-19T04:43:23 < dongs> fuuuuck off. 2016-03-19T04:44:51 < Laurenceb_> this stuff takes a lot of money to develop 2016-03-19T04:44:53 < Laurenceb_> http://www.monicahealthcare.com/products/labour-and-delivery/monica-novii-wireless-patch-system 2016-03-19T04:45:01 < Laurenceb_> this cost ~ UKP25M 2016-03-19T04:45:23 < Laurenceb_> http://www.monicahealthcare.com/Monica_Healthcare/media/Monica/Products/wet-pod-800x800.png?ext=.png 2016-03-19T04:45:35 < Laurenceb_> still not ready - check out the electrode bleed 2016-03-19T04:45:55 < Laurenceb_> http://www.monicahealthcare.com/Monica_Healthcare/media/Monica/Products/novii_corometrics_products_redarrow.jpg?ext=.jpg 2016-03-19T04:46:09 < Laurenceb_> that thing is the foreground is nothing to do with their product 2016-03-19T04:46:17 < Laurenceb_> background is a rendering 2016-03-19T04:47:51 < Laurenceb_> that thing always makes me lol 2016-03-19T04:48:25 < Laurenceb_> someone thought it'd be a good idea to use ~200µm thick PET and screen printed "conductive" ink for the "PCB" 2016-03-19T04:49:05 < Laurenceb_> its a complete disaster and cuts the skin before cracking 2016-03-19T04:50:35 < Laurenceb_> of course the subcontractors who came up with the retarded design got all their money in advance 2016-03-19T04:50:41 < Laurenceb_> trolld hard 2016-03-19T04:50:48 < dongs> kinda like wat youre doing now right?? 2016-03-19T04:50:49 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-19T04:51:09 < dongs> any progress on the AiDS1892? 2016-03-19T04:51:19 < Laurenceb_> yup, only my designs dont suck 2016-03-19T04:51:21 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.29] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-19T04:51:29 < dongs> 1298 2016-03-19T04:51:45 < Laurenceb_> AiDS1298 driver is written 2016-03-19T04:52:12 < Laurenceb_> havent fully tested it, working on G.U.I. to track the ip address 2016-03-19T04:52:28 < dongs> oh that QT garbage? 2016-03-19T04:52:32 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-19T04:55:18 -!- MrMobius [~MrMobius@50.153.169.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-19T04:56:11 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T04:59:04 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/K3SLTF8 2016-03-19T04:59:32 < dongs> lunix gui 2016-03-19T05:01:13 < Laurenceb_> glitches are from the screenshot 2016-03-19T05:05:09 < Laurenceb_> my c++ sucks still 2016-03-19T05:05:44 < Laurenceb_> I've got my serial driver pretty much sorted, it writes to a Qt buffer 2016-03-19T05:05:59 < Laurenceb_> dunno how to access the buffer from the graph... 2016-03-19T05:09:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T05:09:53 < Laurenceb_> oh maybe that whole idea is retarded 2016-03-19T05:10:11 < Laurenceb_> maybe I need character get and add functions in the serial driver class? 2016-03-19T05:10:29 < upgrdman> i wish i saw something half as eventful on the subway as this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z84STbSvI54 2016-03-19T05:13:53 < Laurenceb_> or just a global pointer lol 2016-03-19T05:14:05 < Laurenceb_> QByteArray* Buffer; Buffer=&(the_port->buffer); 2016-03-19T05:14:56 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-19T05:15:12 < Laurenceb_> inb4 c++ guru rage 2016-03-19T05:15:23 < Laurenceb_> i dont care biatch 2016-03-19T05:20:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8200:1190:813e:6c11:a185:36c2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T05:22:38 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-19T05:23:15 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-19T05:25:48 < Laurenceb_> I guess the pro way would be some sort of inheritance via main window 2016-03-19T05:39:07 < Laurenceb_> heh I find it too pretentious 2016-03-19T05:39:33 < Laurenceb_> hmf I cant find any "bytes in tx buffer" function for Qserialport :-/ 2016-03-19T05:42:01 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.qt.io/topic/59692/qserialport-hardwarecontrol-do-i-get-this-rigth/5 2016-03-19T05:42:16 < Laurenceb_> I could do that and slit it into tiny writes.. even single byte 2016-03-19T05:42:26 < Laurenceb_> but thats going to be really slow due to OS overhead 2016-03-19T05:48:58 < dongs> QTY:18944 PCS; D/C:NEW 2016-03-19T05:49:02 < dongs> looks legit 2016-03-19T05:50:53 < ohsix> http://i.imgur.com/E1MXGmu.gifv 2016-03-19T05:57:38 < ohsix> hey uh there's a press release from st about lunix in electronic design 2016-03-19T05:58:05 < ohsix> 'stmicroelectronics is extending opportunities to design free of charge with its stm32 mcus for linux system users, including professional engineers, academics, and hobbyists' 2016-03-19T05:58:37 < ohsix> cube and stuff already ran on linux, i guess they have an installer or some supported thing now 2016-03-19T06:15:27 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-19T06:16:50 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2016-03-19T06:23:45 < ohsix> presentations are extra slow, usually, too; you can listen at more than 1.5 speed and still hear everything 2016-03-19T06:24:06 < ReadError> does it make the pitch retarded? 2016-03-19T06:24:16 < ohsix> my watch later list is so bloated with presentations, i don't spend much time on the big computer 2016-03-19T06:24:17 < ohsix> nope 2016-03-19T06:42:42 < ohsix> Pokémon Company artist and designer killed in accident 2016-03-19T06:42:43 < ohsix> :< 2016-03-19T06:42:52 < ohsix> only 42, no pokemans fan but that sux 2016-03-19T06:45:29 < Laurenceb_> what http://9to5mac.com/2016/03/18/os-x-versus-linux-developers/ 2016-03-19T06:45:37 < Laurenceb_> who uses those languages 2016-03-19T06:45:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-19T06:51:23 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: dat 'primary os' qualification 2016-03-19T06:51:24 < ohsix> hahaha 2016-03-19T06:51:58 < ohsix> also if you don't break up win10/8 it's more than all of them 2016-03-19T06:52:58 < ohsix> ther'es a lot of wank in that wanted/dreaded list, of the stackoverflow only variety 2016-03-19T06:53:46 < ohsix> http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#developer-profile-programmers-engineers-and-developers 10% ninjas 2016-03-19T06:57:07 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if anything useful has ever been written in ruby 2016-03-19T06:58:28 < Laurenceb_> grr theres nothing for it 2016-03-19T06:58:58 < Laurenceb_> unless I'm going to let my code turn into global ridden bugfest I'll have to do inheritance via the main window 2016-03-19T06:59:14 < Laurenceb_> presumably this is how gui stuff is usually done.. 2016-03-19T06:59:42 < ohsix> there are singletons which are usually globals but less bad 2016-03-19T06:59:57 < Laurenceb_> ah yeah 2016-03-19T07:00:10 < ohsix> you either have them at global scope or some defined scope and it returns the same value for a given key (key might just be the instance name) 2016-03-19T07:10:41 < Laurenceb_> ok 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< PeterM> sodler even 2016-03-19T15:57:38 < PeterM> soyou dont fuck the battery 2016-03-19T15:58:08 < kakimir> how you spot weld stuff like that? 2016-03-19T15:58:44 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-19T15:58:45 < kakimir> have big electrode to cover the surrounding area? 2016-03-19T15:59:32 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T16:00:02 < kakimir> I wonder about spot welding of 18650 tabs 2016-03-19T16:00:12 < kakimir> when you have the positive terminal 2016-03-19T16:00:17 < kakimir> it's not that big 2016-03-19T16:00:36 < kakimir> you spot weld with 2 electrodes at once? 2016-03-19T16:02:04 < kakimir> molex webpage is such a crap 2016-03-19T16:02:36 < kakimir> no thumbnails.. everything looks awkward.. documents do not open 2016-03-19T16:05:07 < kakimir> what is weird you need to have adblock dissabled to download any documents.. not totally uncommon but I don't really trust services 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ReadError> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LRdgDMPKg9k/VtnswmCwCDI/AAAAAAAAaz8/fpApIP59m1EvJvFGy_4d2S3H2oPy09C5A/w660-h866-no/pqK85Zg.jpg 2016-03-19T17:46:29 < ReadError> hahhaa 2016-03-19T17:47:34 < Lux> is that a real thing ? or just some fake cover 2016-03-19T17:48:05 < mitrax> come on that's a joke :) 2016-03-19T17:48:06 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T17:48:08 < Lux> seems real: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29437996-copying-and-pasting-from-stack-overflow 2016-03-19T17:48:30 < Lux> or nope 2016-03-19T17:48:39 < Lux> would have been cool tough :) 2016-03-19T17:48:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.24] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T18:19:50 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-19T18:21:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T18:21:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit 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2016-03-19T19:06:21 < ohsix> the movies weren't as fun as some of them 2016-03-19T19:11:34 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-19T19:11:53 < ohsix> http://meta.serverfault.com/questions/5990/serverfault-mods-on-a-higher-horse-than-stackoverflow-closing-questions 2016-03-19T19:12:04 < ohsix> so pro 2016-03-19T19:12:27 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T19:13:23 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used the cp2102? 2016-03-19T19:13:39 < Laurenceb_> from the datasheet it seems to have eeprom for config data? 2016-03-19T19:13:55 < Laurenceb_> wondering if anyone has used it - I want to set custom manufacturer etc data 2016-03-19T19:16:42 < Laurenceb_> oh there is a windozer tool 2016-03-19T19:16:47 < Laurenceb_> I fail at reading 2016-03-19T19:16:50 < Laurenceb_> thats very pro 2016-03-19T19:16:54 < Laurenceb_> FTDI pwnd 2016-03-19T19:18:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.24] has quit [Ping 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Like them. 2016-03-19T19:21:51 < ReadError> sites that dont let you use the back button should be illegal 2016-03-19T19:22:46 < Laurenceb_> wow it can do tons of shit 2016-03-19T19:23:08 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T19:23:10 < Laurenceb_> epic 2016-03-19T19:23:18 < Laurenceb_> thanks for the link 2016-03-19T19:23:28 < mitrax> np 2016-03-19T19:24:02 < Laurenceb_> in 2102/2109 datasheet is says 2102 has eeprom and 2109 otp 2016-03-19T19:24:24 < mitrax> ah ok 2016-03-19T19:33:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.68] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T19:44:10 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T19:50:51 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-19T19:51:01 < Steffanx> since when ftdi does not have such tool Laurenceb_? 2016-03-19T19:51:01 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T19:51:42 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-19T19:55:22 < Steffanx> I was just wondering about the "pwnd" part. Pwnd because of what fanciness? 2016-03-19T19:56:32 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKVlJEYXV0eDdHWFU/view?usp=sharing my autism is getting on 2016-03-19T19:56:48 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@151.34.250.31] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T19:57:14 < kakimir> now I need to also create groups 2016-03-19T19:58:35 < Steffanx> You autism lets those GND0&1 be drawn over each other? 2016-03-19T19:59:30 < kakimir> good point 2016-03-19T19:59:31 < Steffanx> Also is that kickad being semi-buggy? Many of those test pins have a gap between the pin and the wire. 2016-03-19T19:59:35 < ohsix> http://wavepot.com/ 2016-03-19T20:00:19 < kakimir> Steffanx: it's the fukken rendering engine of this shiet 2016-03-19T20:00:26 < kakimir> it's what you get 2016-03-19T20:00:42 < kakimir> and what you take 2016-03-19T20:01:06 < Steffanx> That's actually not too bad ohsix. 2016-03-19T20:01:29 < Steffanx> Or is "whaa fuck Javascript" the only correct response to this? 2016-03-19T20:02:26 < ohsix> nah it's neat 2016-03-19T20:02:39 < ohsix> looking for music books, finding random links 2016-03-19T20:02:46 < Steffanx> music books? 2016-03-19T20:03:25 < ohsix> yea, some mit press books that i didn't have any luck finding a few years ago 2016-03-19T20:03:50 < Steffanx> but .. what kind of music books 2016-03-19T20:03:57 < ohsix> o 2016-03-19T20:04:20 < Steffanx> Something even the russian genesis library does not have? Must be very obscure then. 2016-03-19T20:04:25 < ohsix> all sorts and none in particular, mostly related to programming; gonna get music-music books next time i'm at the library, sheet music or whatever 2016-03-19T20:04:41 < ohsix> well, they have some https://mitpress.mit.edu/disciplines/computer-science-and-intelligent-systems/computer-music 2016-03-19T20:06:38 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ftsTVwTfs crazy japanise not afraid of death 2016-03-19T20:07:02 < kakimir> also money 2016-03-19T20:07:32 < ohsix> it's not too pressing or anything, just idly looking for crap 2016-03-19T20:08:04 < Steffanx> Not sure what i should expect from music books. Except sheet music etc. 2016-03-19T20:10:22 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-19T20:10:45 < ohsix> 'music with computers' still has an experimental side to it, rather than just doing music _with_ a computer 2016-03-19T20:14:33 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-19T20:21:26 < Steffanx> https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagnostic/index.html?hl=nl#url=http://www.linuxforums.org/ lol. 2016-03-19T20:23:53 < kakimir> should I really switch power to 12volt fan with sot23 fet 2016-03-19T20:25:41 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T20:26:37 < kakimir> in case of 3amps of current there is 0.6W of heat produced 2016-03-19T20:27:36 < kakimir> totally unlikely 3amps but the buck outputs 3amps 2016-03-19T20:27:37 < Getty> seeing this is kinda scary: http://i.imgur.com/E56AnfJ.webm i dont know why..... 2016-03-19T20:28:13 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T20:28:18 < kakimir> AI writing love letters 2016-03-19T20:28:58 < Getty> or signing contracts ;) 2016-03-19T20:29:26 < kakimir> could you do business interactions without ever face2face? 2016-03-19T20:29:31 < kakimir> anyone 2016-03-19T20:29:53 < mitrax> what do you mean by business interaction? 2016-03-19T20:30:13 < kakimir> doing deals 2016-03-19T20:30:23 < Getty> well i think the outside elements should be also relevant 2016-03-19T20:30:41 < Getty> like in germany the contract is mostly really just signing and there are (not in the areas i ever worked with) any kind of bigger security 2016-03-19T20:30:53 < kakimir> nether here 2016-03-19T20:31:10 < Getty> on the other hand, german contracts are invalid if its like a bad one, so its like impossible to sneak in a destructive contract to someone cause he blindly signed it 2016-03-19T20:31:22 < kakimir> of course 2016-03-19T20:31:22 < Getty> its like, the "we own your soul" contract scam doesnt work in germany 2016-03-19T20:31:37 < Getty> and we talk about a wide wide wide range of bad contracts 2016-03-19T20:32:14 < Getty> so i dont know if the signing stuff will ever be solved bigger 2016-03-19T20:32:36 < Getty> its anyway too funny these days... if "one person" signs a contract that is relevant for company that owns billions and has hundred thousands of employees 2016-03-19T20:33:43 < kakimir> he or she has mandate 2016-03-19T20:33:59 < Getty> yeah sure, thats like the result of the tradition of business being made 1:1 2016-03-19T20:35:25 < Getty> its like also misused with people signing contracts for the company and then protecting themself behind the company 2016-03-19T20:36:10 < Getty> "yeah sure i signed this contract where we buy workers time for 15 cent / hour, and i had no idea that it is about bad working environment, how should i know???? thats not my job" 2016-03-19T20:36:35 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Diodes-Incorporated/DMP3028LFDE-7/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMshyDBzk1%2fWiyGodRNn0Lc8hmYV4yQS1AY%3d interesting pack 2016-03-19T20:36:50 < kakimir> seems like an alternative to sot23 2016-03-19T20:37:00 < kakimir> handles at least a watt of power 2016-03-19T20:38:00 < ohsix> https://youtu.be/4IOJz_hoIKM?t=260 2016-03-19T20:38:39 < kakimir> thermal resistance a half 2016-03-19T20:39:06 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-19T20:40:18 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2a00:801:301:6cde:d952:78f6:8b57:933a] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T20:59:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@167.220.99.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-19T21:27:51 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BgiTXEiNcI matthias really pandering now, to youtube, with fire 2016-03-19T21:29:40 < jpa-> doesn't look dangerous enough 2016-03-19T21:30:12 < ReadError> ohsix lolll 2016-03-19T21:30:16 < ReadError> broad city 2016-03-19T21:30:19 < ReadError> gif vs jif 2016-03-19T21:30:31 < ohsix> that whole scene was funny 2016-03-19T21:30:46 < ohsix> there was a person in a wheel chair falling down the stairs for like a whole minute 2016-03-19T21:31:02 < ReadError> haha 2016-03-19T21:31:07 < ReadError> had to rewind 2016-03-19T21:31:11 < ReadError> didnt notice 2016-03-19T21:31:13 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-19T21:31:23 < ohsix> didn't you wonder why it was framed like that and it went on so long ;D 2016-03-19T21:32:23 < ohsix> playing https://georgebatch.itch.io/hot-date 2016-03-19T21:32:36 < ReadError> banging a jockey 2016-03-19T21:32:38 < ReadError> so gross 2016-03-19T21:32:57 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@151.34.250.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-19T21:37:31 < ohsix> what do you call a big pile of kittens? a meowntin 2016-03-19T21:41:34 < ohsix> i've been able to watch the last few things on east coast time and get to bed earlier, that's kind of kewl 2016-03-19T21:46:06 < ohsix> hrm is there any place online that takes library of congress infoz and let you browse all books in a given subject area, or within dewey classification or anything like that 2016-03-19T21:46:42 < ohsix> being in a physical library and having everything organized into at most one spot is pretty kewl 2016-03-19T22:03:20 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T22:09:12 < ohsix> heh, figured out why all the school libraries are different than public libraries, they use library of congress' classification system 2016-03-19T22:10:21 < kakimir> win10 menu search stoped working all the sudden 2016-03-19T22:10:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@167.220.105.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T22:10:38 < kakimir> and menu freezes and lags on and off 2016-03-19T22:14:48 < ohsix> Subclass TX Home economics - TX1100-1105 Mobile home living 2016-03-19T22:25:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-19T22:28:00 < ohsix> hm heh 2016-03-19T22:28:10 < ohsix> i could start a priv8 library and join the lending network stuff 2016-03-19T22:28:35 < ohsix> i have some books that are lame but are one of the only copies left 2016-03-19T22:28:41 < ohsix> s/one/some 2016-03-19T22:31:52 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk interesting 2016-03-19T22:36:32 < Steffanx> pretty cool. 2016-03-19T22:37:33 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T22:37:36 < Steffanx> even putin is included :D 2016-03-19T22:38:45 < lorenzo> heil putin 2016-03-19T22:39:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T22:39:21 < Steffanx> Go wash your mouth with water and soap lorenzo 2016-03-19T22:39:39 < lorenzo> :( 2016-03-19T22:40:03 < lorenzo> no soap in the gulag 2016-03-19T22:42:10 < XTL> Need to throw another one in the oven, then 2016-03-19T23:30:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-19T23:31:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-19T23:38:08 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-19T23:38:42 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@151.34.250.31] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Mar 20 2016 2016-03-20T00:07:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-20T00:16:18 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-20T00:57:10 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T00:58:22 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T00:59:06 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-20T01:02:20 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T01:15:01 < kakimir> how to be a pro? 2016-03-20T01:16:31 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T01:20:49 < kakimir> can ltspice hand out frequency? 2016-03-20T01:25:27 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-20T01:28:08 < kakimir> it seems to be pretty important you have external supplys as 0V in ltspice 2016-03-20T01:28:21 < kakimir> else your net is in wrong initial state 2016-03-20T01:33:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-20T01:34:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T01:40:06 < kakimir> man... is blheli coded in asm? 2016-03-20T01:42:45 < kakimir> mental 2016-03-20T01:43:08 < kakimir> https://github.com/bitdump/BLHeli/blob/master/SiLabs/BLHeli.asm 2016-03-20T01:44:35 < englishman> yes, so is simonk 2016-03-20T01:48:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@167.220.105.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-20T01:50:53 < Lux> i think wii esc is the only atmega esc code written in c https://github.com/vishnubob/wii-esc 2016-03-20T01:52:20 < kakimir> I try to find parameters to limit power setting 2016-03-20T01:52:24 < kakimir> power output 2016-03-20T01:52:45 < Lux> you mean the pwm value ? 2016-03-20T01:56:48 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-20T02:09:23 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@151.34.250.31] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-20T02:09:23 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T02:10:21 < kakimir> or what ever the concept is in this architecture 2016-03-20T02:11:03 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T02:12:06 < jadew> what's that? 2016-03-20T02:12:50 < kakimir> I wonder if I could do dirty trick with dithering table 2016-03-20T02:14:07 < jadew> what does it do? 2016-03-20T02:15:24 < jadew> you're making a flying machine? 2016-03-20T02:19:26 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-20T02:19:49 < kakimir> or I abuse some governod mode to output limited pwm 2016-03-20T02:19:56 < kakimir> *governor 2016-03-20T02:20:08 < kakimir> jadew: oversize prop in slow glider 2016-03-20T02:20:14 < kakimir> seriously oversize 2016-03-20T02:20:36 < jadew> and what are you trying to do? 2016-03-20T02:20:43 < kakimir> efficiency 2016-03-20T02:20:52 < jadew> what's not working? 2016-03-20T02:21:52 < kakimir> user error in power limits would cause overcurrent 2016-03-20T02:22:45 < kakimir> power required to spin the propeller changes from 200w to 2kw in logaritmic fashion just by doupling the rpm 2016-03-20T02:23:23 < kakimir> and I want to have that sweet spot just before power starts to dramatically rise 2016-03-20T02:23:49 < jadew> if it's logarithmic it's always going to have a dramatic rise :) 2016-03-20T02:23:59 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-20T02:24:13 < jadew> just that on a lower scale, I guess you have to figure out what's the sweet spot and aim for it 2016-03-20T02:24:30 < kakimir> I have 150watts max 2016-03-20T02:24:38 < Sync> dongs: is there some jappu electronics auction site besides ebay? 2016-03-20T02:24:45 < jadew> Sync, yahoo 2016-03-20T02:26:15 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T02:26:21 < jadew> http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/ 2016-03-20T02:26:40 < jadew> but it's crypted 2016-03-20T02:26:54 < jadew> the entire page is written in gibberish 2016-03-20T02:28:22 < jadew> jadew, thanks 2016-03-20T02:28:24 < jadew> np! 2016-03-20T02:29:00 < ohsix> dongs: luuuuul i found adapter for labtop 2016-03-20T02:29:04 < ohsix> it's 120w tho ;D 2016-03-20T02:29:11 < ohsix> that will definitely do the business 2016-03-20T02:29:16 < jadew> one of those universal ones? 2016-03-20T02:29:21 < ohsix> nope, real hp one 2016-03-20T02:29:25 < jadew> ah, nice 2016-03-20T02:29:29 < jadew> the universal ones suck 2016-03-20T02:29:33 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-20T02:29:38 < jadew> they have huge ripple under load 2016-03-20T02:29:39 < ohsix> i was gonna get one of those eventually 2016-03-20T02:30:06 < ohsix> the laptop i have free needs the 65w adapter, the laptop i use all the time and have 2 of are both 35w 2016-03-20T02:30:56 < ohsix> lerl the laptop side of the cord is almost cm thick 2016-03-20T02:31:04 < kakimir> is .jp the last market for yahoo? 2016-03-20T02:31:26 < kakimir> how is that company still hanging there? 2016-03-20T02:31:52 < jadew> kakimir, apparently 2016-03-20T02:32:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T02:32:20 < jadew> yahoo appeals only to the old generation and Japan has a lot of that :P 2016-03-20T02:32:31 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKY05BdzRKVnhoREk/view?usp=sharing the 4wire fan power switch 2016-03-20T02:34:03 < kakimir> no need to consume mcu pins for that 2016-03-20T02:36:46 < Sync> oh, great jadew, i'll check that out 2016-03-20T02:36:59 < jadew> np 2016-03-20T02:37:09 < jadew> they have lots of TE if that's what you're after 2016-03-20T02:37:20 < kakimir> jadew: I wonder do they use android and such or are they still into flip phones 2016-03-20T02:37:45 < jadew> heh, pretty sure they have a lot of current tech 2016-03-20T02:37:55 < jadew> don't they dongs? 2016-03-20T02:38:03 < kakimir> http://cdn.ndtv.com/tech/images/gadgets/galaxy-golden-big.jpg 2016-03-20T02:38:14 < jadew> see, android 2016-03-20T02:38:21 < kakimir> + flip phone 2016-03-20T02:38:38 < jadew> notice the size of the keys 2016-03-20T02:38:44 < jadew> it's clearly targetted at the elderly 2016-03-20T02:38:49 < kakimir> I want that 2016-03-20T02:38:59 < jadew> the elders who want to get on yahoo 2016-03-20T02:39:05 < kakimir> keypad was so good 2016-03-20T02:39:14 < Sync> jadew: currently looking for a high powered electronic load 2016-03-20T02:39:26 < jadew> Sync, how high power? 2016-03-20T02:40:00 < kakimir> as my guru says - touchscreen is keyboard of time of shortage 2016-03-20T02:40:39 < Sync> like 1000W or more 2016-03-20T02:40:41 < ohsix> also dunno if it is just an hp thing or what, but it's kind of nice all these adapters are the ~same with the same connectors 2016-03-20T02:40:45 < Sync> at at least 300V 2016-03-20T02:40:49 < jadew> Sync, got it 2016-03-20T02:41:26 < jadew> I have a 300W, 150V mayno, I remember they had higher power models too, but they get expensive 2016-03-20T02:41:36 < jadew> maynuo 2016-03-20T02:42:30 < Sync> yep 2016-03-20T02:42:40 < Sync> trying to cheapskate there 2016-03-20T02:43:05 < ohsix> lawl wat, this laptop is basically new; they upgraded stuff, but there's a weird wave in the keyboard, high on the left 2016-03-20T02:43:58 < jadew> ohsix, like a defect? 2016-03-20T02:44:23 < ohsix> not really sure, can look later; it could also be sunken on the right into some feature 2016-03-20T02:44:30 < ohsix> but i never noticed it before 2016-03-20T02:44:44 < Sync> oh lul jadew, you are right, they got lots of cheap TE shit 2016-03-20T02:45:20 < jadew> Sync, I know, I've been looking to buy stuff from them for a while, but shipping is an issue 2016-03-20T02:45:32 < kakimir> once they figure out to do some ip67 flip android I'm propably buying 2016-03-20T02:45:35 < jadew> I don't think many of them ship internationally 2016-03-20T02:46:00 * ohsix wait for lockup 2016-03-20T02:46:10 < Sync> well, we're WW2 bros 2016-03-20T02:46:45 < jadew> you nuked them? 2016-03-20T02:47:05 < jadew> or you're not from the US? 2016-03-20T02:47:25 < Sync> I'm from germoney 2016-03-20T02:47:51 < jadew> ah 2016-03-20T02:48:15 < jadew> well, then plan for VAT :/ 2016-03-20T02:48:44 < jadew> when trying to buy from there I found a company that was taking care of everything 2016-03-20T02:48:51 < jadew> shipping + import taxes and all that 2016-03-20T02:49:16 < jadew> so you might want to look into that 2016-03-20T02:49:24 < jadew> some offer even bidding on your behalf 2016-03-20T02:49:41 < jadew> so you don't even have deal with the seller 2016-03-20T02:49:49 < jadew> not sure on how legit they are tho 2016-03-20T02:49:58 < Sync> okay, well, I don't mind dealing with them myself 2016-03-20T02:50:13 < Sync> and yeah I know how importing stuff works, unfortunately :D 2016-03-20T02:51:47 < kakimir> maybe tx governor is enought.. I can set maximum rpm and signal input sets rpm required from 0 to maximum rpm 2016-03-20T02:52:15 < ohsix> rick perry? 2016-03-20T02:52:32 < ohsix> nm 2016-03-20T02:53:25 < kakimir> I dont get the joke as reuopean 2016-03-20T02:53:47 < kakimir> :o 2016-03-20T02:54:13 < kakimir> I mean G.W.Bush 2016-03-20T02:56:54 < Sync> wot. 2016-03-20T02:56:59 < Sync> either that shit is super cheap there jadew 2016-03-20T02:57:06 < Sync> or the prices are somehow not right 2016-03-20T02:57:15 < jadew> Sync, it's an auction 2016-03-20T02:57:29 < jadew> they will eventually get higher, but yeah, stuff is cheap over there 2016-03-20T02:58:43 < Sync> nah there is a guyman that sells a kikusui load for 760€ or something 2016-03-20T02:58:50 < Sync> which is over 4k on ebay 2016-03-20T03:00:47 < dongs> Sync: no, there's auctions.yahoo for jp shit which is what everyone uses locally. 2016-03-20T03:01:54 < PeterM> [05:38] https://youtu.be/4IOJz_hoIKM?t=260 the eggs gave me howtobasic flashbacks 2016-03-20T03:02:43 < dongs> ARM tutorial 2016-03-20T03:04:25 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-20T03:04:28 < ohsix> labtop is not crashing 2016-03-20T03:04:42 < ohsix> PeterM: yea haha it was a boring video but that insert made up for it a little 2016-03-20T03:04:50 < ohsix> dongs: it looks like it was the ac adapter 2016-03-20T03:07:37 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-20T03:16:20 < kakimir> protected identity of howtobasic 2016-03-20T03:16:55 < PeterM> iirc howtobasic is aussie 2016-03-20T03:19:16 < ohsix> i looked a bit to see if it was a clip or something from a howtobasic 2016-03-20T03:19:26 < ohsix> didn't seem like it 2016-03-20T03:21:19 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLNaaFw51O0 2016-03-20T03:21:24 < ReadError> ARM tutorial 2016-03-20T03:21:52 < PeterM> i havent clicked that link but i already know what it is 2016-03-20T03:22:23 < ohsix> looks like a major player on youtube 2016-03-20T03:22:26 < ohsix> and lots of tiny hammers 2016-03-20T03:25:49 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-20T03:25:52 < ohsix> lab computer still alive 2016-03-20T03:25:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T03:34:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@h104n9-g-ho-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-20T03:42:55 < ohsix> darn there's some other problem, black screens in the bios and lockups with vertical li nes 2016-03-20T03:45:23 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2a00:801:301:6cde:d952:78f6:8b57:933a] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-20T03:46:17 < kakimir> I had a laught when I figured that what howtobasic's job is 2016-03-20T03:49:49 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-20T03:51:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T03:57:13 < dongs> hm crap. imported dxf to altidong and its all as regions 2016-03-20T03:57:20 < dongs> was kinda hoping i could get pads on top layer for free 2016-03-20T03:58:46 * Laurenceb_ is wondering how hard a 3D animated horse would be in Qt 2016-03-20T03:59:28 < dongs> Laurenceb_: this was probably drawn in qt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3rpmctmC_M 2016-03-20T04:17:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/PCB-MANUFACTURING-FOR-WATER-VENDING/ ??? 2016-03-20T04:20:54 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.244] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T04:21:38 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/9Qn45YV 2016-03-20T04:29:40 < dongs> queer lives matter 2016-03-20T04:30:27 < ohsix> o man i cut wood so hard 2016-03-20T04:30:38 < ohsix> all that cardio this afternoon, felt like a lumberjack 4real 2016-03-20T04:37:30 -!- cwillu [~cwillu@204-83-117-123.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T04:51:41 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.244] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-20T05:16:15 < ohsix> found keyboard bump problem, someone has been in here before, didn't put keyboard back on right 2016-03-20T05:16:53 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-20T05:23:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-20T05:24:10 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T05:30:07 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-20T05:32:18 < ohsix> hehehe amd turion 2016-03-20T05:32:24 < ohsix> and the heatsink stuff looks blown out the side 2016-03-20T05:59:21 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-20T06:02:06 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-20T06:03:35 < ohsix> it actually seems faster than my intel one of same vintage ... but it doesn't yet keep running for long 2016-03-20T06:18:09 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI9w_WcI19g h3h 2016-03-20T06:18:34 < ohsix> side channel attacks from piezoelectric and vrm noise 2016-03-20T06:25:35 < dongs> does that use STM32 2016-03-20T06:27:08 < ohsix> haven't got to that part 2016-03-20T06:27:11 < ohsix> it could, but i doubt it 2016-03-20T06:27:34 < ohsix> early in the presentation he shows how well a classifier can work given just the sound of each key, and it works pretty good; heh 2016-03-20T06:27:51 < dongs> i don't think you got my hint 2016-03-20T06:27:53 < ohsix> another one is from a book about intercepting egyptian cables at an embassy from a telephone link in the room 2016-03-20T06:28:01 < ohsix> i'm working on the lab computer 2016-03-20T06:28:10 < ohsix> haha 2016-03-20T06:28:12 < ohsix> he uses an avr 2016-03-20T06:28:25 < ohsix> as a thing to attack 2016-03-20T06:29:53 < ohsix> ReadError: you might dig that presentation re: attacking security bits in micros 2016-03-20T06:31:03 < ReadError> where 2016-03-20T06:32:01 < ohsix> 21:18 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI9w_WcI19g h3h 2016-03-20T06:32:40 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/pmhP6JH.png 2016-03-20T06:32:51 < ReadError> these are a few of my favvvorrrrrriiiteeee things 2016-03-20T06:33:28 < ohsix> heh looking good so farrr, need to find a way to try and crash it 2016-03-20T06:33:32 < ohsix> shadertoy.com rite 2016-03-20T06:33:59 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0af023.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-20T06:34:18 < ReadError> hehe 2016-03-20T06:34:22 < ReadError> he has an openbsd shirt on 2016-03-20T06:34:54 < ohsix> nobody is perfect :\ 2016-03-20T06:35:06 < ohsix> if he's talking about this stuff he might be one of the people that aren't full of shit 2016-03-20T06:37:02 < ohsix> darn, gpu might be nuked, it almost lasted through one play of sela sue on acko.net D: 2016-03-20T06:37:44 < ReadError> reball it 2016-03-20T06:37:49 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T06:38:23 < ohsix> there's only a bergquist style silpat on it 2016-03-20T06:39:17 < ohsix> sux no lab computer 2016-03-20T06:39:46 < ohsix> if i had a heat gun rework thing do you think it would make any difference to heat it up and maybe hope it reseats or whatever? 2016-03-20T06:46:42 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T06:50:04 < ohsix> he does use an stm32f4 2016-03-20T06:50:09 < ohsix> @ 32 minutes 2016-03-20T06:50:34 < ohsix> to sample a microphone that does >20khz 2016-03-20T06:50:37 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/x3ZgJBx.png 2016-03-20T06:50:47 < ReadError> i didnt even notice the guy jerking it at the dmv 2016-03-20T06:50:51 < ReadError> the first time 2016-03-20T06:50:57 < ReadError> but i was high/tired 2016-03-20T06:51:00 < ohsix> jaja 2016-03-20T06:51:17 < ohsix> that's a hard thing to miss 2016-03-20T06:51:25 < ohsix> crt: readerror scooped me on it 2016-03-20T06:51:34 < ReadError> crt ontopic convo? 2016-03-20T06:51:40 < ReadError> like that exist here 2016-03-20T06:51:42 < ohsix> i was still watching it 2016-03-20T06:52:14 < ReadError> all crt talks about is pumpin 2016-03-20T06:52:17 < ReadError> pp4l 2016-03-20T06:53:26 < ohsix> why is the wm-61a one of a handful of condenser mics that do >20khz 2016-03-20T06:53:48 < ohsix> do people working on the cheap take advantage of them rolling off 2016-03-20T06:53:57 < ohsix> crt: well, you'd need a filter 2016-03-20T06:54:41 < ohsix> http://www.laptoprepair101.com/wp-images/motherboard-NVIDIA-problem/fix-failed-laptop-nvidia-chip-05.jpg heheh 2016-03-20T06:56:02 < ohsix> but in this case it wouldn't be a total waste of money to get a heat gun 2016-03-20T06:56:06 < ReadError> wtf 2016-03-20T06:56:08 < ohsix> at least give it once over 2016-03-20T06:56:10 < ReadError> i dont remember any of this ep 2016-03-20T06:56:13 < ohsix> bin it if it does it again 2016-03-20T06:56:33 < ohsix> or sell it as parts on ebay 2016-03-20T06:57:14 < ohsix> i wish amd was a bit smarter with their thermal shit 2016-03-20T06:57:14 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T06:57:41 < ohsix> on notebooks they all suck, but nvidia and intel parts have internal clock throttling and it still works reasonably fast even when it is happening 2016-03-20T06:57:55 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T06:58:53 < PeterM> generally it isn't the over heating, it is just hte thermnal cycling 2016-03-20T06:59:35 < PeterM> it will still happen wiht good thermal management, just take longer 2016-03-20T06:59:56 < ohsix> PeterM: yea 2016-03-20T07:00:20 < ohsix> i wonder if it shows up on xray 2016-03-20T07:00:53 < PeterM> its not a void or a bridge, its jsut a crack, i dont think any xray ive seen has good enough resolution for that 2016-03-20T07:01:28 < ohsix> it's a crack at the ball/pad interface right? 2016-03-20T07:02:10 < ohsix> i guess the same density material even with a gap somewhere in th emiddle aren't going to look that different 2016-03-20T07:02:28 < ohsix> i haven't actually had anything personally fail this way D: 2016-03-20T07:03:32 < ohsix> why would they understand, they can do the service multiple times for the same person in the best case, and at least once for someone that's close to throwing it out 2016-03-20T07:04:28 < ohsix> they're mostly fixing xbux that have shit that makes changing consoles really hard and stuff 2016-03-20T07:04:43 < PeterM> the crack can be anywhere, ball/pad, ball/ic/ ball/ball 2016-03-20T07:04:50 < ohsix> and for people that unloaded on dedicated gpu laptops 2016-03-20T07:05:46 < ohsix> the ones that come with the cpu are pretty ok now 2016-03-20T07:06:09 < ohsix> i still use a gm45 and it's basically slow on everything but it composes the desktop ok 2016-03-20T07:06:26 < ohsix> gm45 is ancient too 2016-03-20T07:06:35 < ohsix> ReadError: https://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/radioexp/ mentioned in presentation 2016-03-20T07:07:06 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-20T07:07:16 < ohsix> there are tons of places i could put one of these under a table 2016-03-20T07:08:00 < ReadError> oh wow they actually got hillary to do the show lol 2016-03-20T07:08:23 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-20T07:08:26 < ohsix> tacked on but gr8 2016-03-20T07:08:39 < ReadError> ohsix i think i saw something similar 2016-03-20T07:08:45 < ReadError> using an acc or gyro or something 2016-03-20T07:08:53 < ohsix> by tacked on i mean the bike messenger thing is the whole reason to get her into that office 2016-03-20T07:08:53 < ReadError> they could tell which keys are pressed 2016-03-20T07:08:59 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-20T07:09:08 < ohsix> i saw another that used an accelerometer as a microphone 2016-03-20T07:09:47 < ohsix> http://arxiv.org/abs/1503.07919 HEHEH passing air gaps bidirectionally with heat, 1-8 bits per hour 2016-03-20T07:10:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-20T07:14:04 < ohsix> yea it was almost like new, i just got done doing wat refurb i could, cleaning up and shit 2016-03-20T07:14:11 < ohsix> might try new silpat if i can get it cheap 2016-03-20T07:14:31 < ohsix> the fact that it just has a space gap filler type pad makes me think it's NOT the gpu but that's the only thing left that i can throw a thing on 2016-03-20T07:14:36 < ReadError> 40cm max range] 2016-03-20T07:14:42 < ReadError> still nuts 2016-03-20T07:23:01 < PeterM> no 2016-03-20T07:23:04 < ohsix> you're in it???? 2016-03-20T07:28:09 < ohsix> i think the last thing i'll try is a thicker silpat, probably not as good as the right sized one but will definitely have good contact all the time 2016-03-20T07:32:20 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-20T07:34:04 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-20T07:36:06 < dongs> < crt> is there a good altidong channel on freenode? 2016-03-20T07:36:09 < dongs> try #stonertronics 2016-03-20T07:39:24 < ReadError> i just axe here 2016-03-20T07:40:23 < ReadError> https://pdfgrep.org/ 2016-03-20T07:40:25 < ReadError> oh wow 2016-03-20T07:41:02 < dongs> ReadError: dumb stoner. you can just type shit into windows searchbox 2016-03-20T07:41:07 < dongs> and it searches Pdfs. 2016-03-20T07:41:26 < ReadError> not the same 2016-03-20T07:42:20 < PeterM> because most PDFs have like a graph in the middle of a fuckign sentence or pictures inthe middle of words or weird AF spaces everywhere or other retarded formtatting because fuck people who want to actually copy text from them 2016-03-20T07:42:52 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-20T07:43:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8500:7bc:8de:5802:f4ad:56] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T07:43:14 < dongs> PeterM: and then there's PDFs made with opensores trash like ghostscript 2016-03-20T07:43:31 < dongs> when you copypaste those and you just get random binary noise 2016-03-20T07:43:32 < dongs> instead of ascii 2016-03-20T07:44:01 < PeterM> yeah fucking bullshit 2016-03-20T07:44:30 < PeterM> too bad if you want to copy past the 4ft long part number and theres a table dispersed throug hout it, i guess im not buying your part 2016-03-20T07:47:26 < ohsix> he doesn't even pump his own gas 2016-03-20T07:53:39 < ReadError> good call 2016-03-20T08:04:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8500:7bc:8de:5802:f4ad:56] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-20T08:05:00 < ohsix> wow, lowtax is the asian one 2016-03-20T08:05:17 < ohsix> watching old junk, he had his wife on the stream a week or something ago 2016-03-20T08:20:17 < ReadError> ohsix dicked around with that openkm thing 2016-03-20T08:20:25 < ReadError> has some nice features 2016-03-20T08:31:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-20T08:35:26 < PeterM> expected https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNwiTG9qLIY 2016-03-20T08:37:27 -!- la [779da9fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.169.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T08:37:29 < la> http://oortr.com/ZjllYz 2016-03-20T08:37:32 -!- la [779da9fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.169.250] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-20T08:47:38 < dongs> innovators never sleep 2016-03-20T08:48:07 < PeterM> the city dump has 2 days of free dumpiung so i need to get rid of some of these bottles 2016-03-20T08:52:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.132] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T09:07:22 < PeterM> crt best recent aussie song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWed7I5x54s 2016-03-20T09:16:40 < dongs> retarded fucking CUI RCA 3d model 2016-03-20T09:16:46 < dongs> their own shit doesnt fit the fucking footprint 2016-03-20T09:16:53 < dongs> also footprint made for eagle lusers 2016-03-20T09:16:55 < dongs> so the holes arent slots 2016-03-20T09:20:48 < dongs> dibcom used it 2016-03-20T09:22:22 < dongs> no, they got bought by parrot 2016-03-20T09:27:35 < dongs> i thought it waws altium 2016-03-20T09:28:19 < dongs> oll. 2016-03-20T09:29:37 < dongs> sorry to hear that 2016-03-20T09:35:02 < dongs> get stoned 2016-03-20T09:35:26 < dongs> hmm, make schematic for TPS63020DSJR 2016-03-20T09:35:30 < dongs> or ISL91110IINZ-T 2016-03-20T09:35:47 < dongs> oh hm i dont need either one on this board 2016-03-20T09:35:51 < dongs> i need the boost 2016-03-20T09:35:58 < dongs> MP2617GL-Z 2016-03-20T09:36:27 < dongs> er, no thats not it either 2016-03-20T09:36:34 < dongs> hrm did i not find a boost chip i needed? fuck 2016-03-20T09:37:00 < dongs> ya god damn i didnt find a proper boost IC yet 2016-03-20T09:37:14 < dongs> 5V>12V for panel backlight 2016-03-20T09:37:20 < dongs> its kinda dum cuz panel has another boost inside of it 2016-03-20T09:37:57 < PeterM> dongs how muich current boost? 2016-03-20T09:38:09 < dongs> < 500mA @ 12 V 2016-03-20T09:38:20 < dongs> but if im gonna get one i might as well have something bigger 2016-03-20T09:38:52 < dongs> hm i coulda sworn i had something picked but its not on chinagirl list 2016-03-20T09:39:08 < dongs> too stoned to remember, of course 2016-03-20T09:39:26 < PeterM> mp32113 isnt bad, but its probably over kill 2016-03-20T09:39:35 < PeterM> mp3213* 2016-03-20T09:40:19 < dongs> fuck, i hate comp loops 2016-03-20T09:41:17 < dongs> does china have QFN version of that? 2016-03-20T09:41:31 < dongs> looks like not even 2016-03-20T09:42:30 < dongs> but has msop. hm 2016-03-20T09:42:55 < PeterM> i have used tps55330 but that is HUGER current (5a) and mroe expensive 2016-03-20T09:43:13 < PeterM> so probably not good 2016-03-20T09:43:25 < PeterM> also requires comp 2016-03-20T09:43:58 < dongs> that one aint even in china 2016-03-20T09:44:06 < dongs> mps is probably ok, but so many parts arg 2016-03-20T09:44:38 < PeterM> it is in china, check for full part number , tps55330rter 2016-03-20T09:44:43 < dongs> i did 2016-03-20T09:44:46 < PeterM> o? 2016-03-20T09:45:06 < dongs> ya basically nothign 2016-03-20T09:45:09 < PeterM> mmhm 2016-03-20T09:45:15 < dongs> a place or two might have it but its like 2 vs 1000 for mps 2016-03-20T09:45:24 < dongs> on available volume 2016-03-20T09:45:48 < PeterM> ahh 2016-03-20T09:45:51 < PeterM> ic ic 2016-03-20T09:46:47 < dongs> but yeah, hm, it'll work. down to 2.5 input, etc. 2016-03-20T09:47:15 < dongs> time to add to my mouser innovation cart 2016-03-20T09:47:42 < dongs> jesus $3 at mouser 2016-03-20T09:47:43 < dongs> what a joke 2016-03-20T09:47:47 < dongs> probly liek $.30 in chian right 2016-03-20T09:48:19 < dongs> qfn version cehaper at mouser, hm 2016-03-20T09:48:24 < dongs> but definitely not available 2016-03-20T09:48:53 < PeterM> yeah something liek that 2016-03-20T09:58:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-20T10:10:43 < ReadError> https://www.led-tech.de/images/products/resized/LT-2316-1408549809.jpg 2016-03-20T10:10:49 < ReadError> does this make sense to anyone? 2016-03-20T10:12:08 < ReadError> http://www.chemnitz-schmidt.de/Bilder/Minibuck.jpg 2016-03-20T10:12:20 < dongs> poti 2016-03-20T10:12:27 < dongs> fukken germans 2016-03-20T10:12:34 < ReadError> yes this is all very german 2016-03-20T10:12:46 < ReadError> KSQ is a buck 2016-03-20T10:13:07 < ReadError> but I dont understand what A/K have to do w/ PWM control 2016-03-20T10:14:06 < dongs> anode/cathoede? 2016-03-20T10:15:55 < ReadError> yea a=anode 2016-03-20T10:16:03 < ReadError> but wtf does that have to do w/ pwm 2016-03-20T10:16:38 < PeterM> ReadError, the "dimmer" is jsut a pwm generator 2016-03-20T10:17:27 < ReadError> hmm but it looks like the PWM input takes the same voltage as the buck input 2016-03-20T10:17:33 < ReadError> is that normal ? 2016-03-20T10:17:38 < PeterM> i dont see why not 2016-03-20T10:17:51 < PeterM> unless its liek 60v or 220vac 2016-03-20T10:18:00 < ReadError> 36v max 2016-03-20T10:18:12 < ReadError> no other pwm ive used has been that high so it just seems odd 2016-03-20T10:18:21 < PeterM> nah its fine 2016-03-20T10:18:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T10:18:39 < PeterM> never used liek a tl494 ro anything? 2016-03-20T10:18:46 < ReadError> nope 2016-03-20T10:18:52 < PeterM> also link the part associated with ksq? 2016-03-20T10:19:13 < ReadError> There is now a new generation of small BUCK driver, the Mini-Bucks: With LT-2315 and LT-2316 we provide the new 350mA / 700mA BUCK driver generation in mini format (12.5 x 12 , 5 mm) in front. Thanks to a completely new technical design, the Bucks are now used to 36V, much smaller and not least also become cheaper. 2016-03-20T10:19:27 < ReadError> I cant find fuckall for the 2315/2316 on Linear 2016-03-20T10:21:38 < PeterM> so... what are you tryingto acheive? 2016-03-20T10:21:54 < ReadError> just helping a guy w/ a little pcb 2016-03-20T10:22:14 < PeterM> helping him use said pcb or helping design 2016-03-20T10:22:17 < ReadError> but just have these little german pictures to go by 2016-03-20T10:22:37 < ReadError> hes using these modules 2016-03-20T10:22:42 < ReadError> and gave me a dxf 2016-03-20T10:23:29 < PeterM> i did quick gogoel of ksq buck and saw like 10euro, eyes popped out of head 2016-03-20T10:23:43 < ReadError> yea and theres like no good info 2016-03-20T10:23:49 < ReadError> just german pictures 2016-03-20T10:24:22 < dongs> why you stoning? 2016-03-20T10:24:49 < ReadError> https://www.led-tech.de/en/LED-Controlling/Constant-Current-Power-Supply/Mini-BUCK-Constant-Current-Power-Supply--700mA,-36V--LT-2316_118_119.html 2016-03-20T10:24:58 < PeterM> ReadError, it looks like a standard buck converter and the pwm signal is going to the enable pin 2016-03-20T10:25:05 < ReadError> ohhh 2016-03-20T10:25:11 < PeterM> either enable pin or the FB pin 2016-03-20T10:25:12 < ReadError> and EN is pulled to input VCC 2016-03-20T10:25:21 < ReadError> ok so that makes more sense 2016-03-20T10:25:33 < dongs> oh lol 2016-03-20T10:25:39 < dongs> PeterM: does that even work? 2016-03-20T10:25:42 < PeterM> sense? cents? nmroe liek fuckign 9 euro a pop it seems 2016-03-20T10:25:45 < PeterM> dongs yes 2016-03-20T10:25:52 < dongs> thats pretty hax 2016-03-20T10:25:53 < ReadError> crt its 'lt-2316' 2016-03-20T10:25:57 < dongs> to toggle EN 2016-03-20T10:26:04 < ReadError> good luck finding shit on it though 2016-03-20T10:26:21 < PeterM> i dunno what it is but it has xbox huge inductor 2016-03-20T10:26:36 < dongs> looks like WORST inductor 2016-03-20T10:26:48 < PeterM> 330 so 33uh 2016-03-20T10:27:02 < PeterM> that things running at like 250khz max 2016-03-20T10:27:20 < PeterM> and its a led 2016-03-20T10:27:26 < dongs> Stromverhalten 2016-03-20T10:27:37 < ReadError> thats what I am assuming 2016-03-20T10:27:38 < PeterM> fucking run that shit at like 1.5mhz and undersize the inductor, led aint gon care bout ripple 2016-03-20T10:27:46 < ReadError> but I cant find anything from linear 2016-03-20T10:27:46 < dongs> no you dumbfuck 2016-03-20T10:27:48 < dongs> LT = led-tech 2016-03-20T10:27:51 < dongs> its just thier internal part# 2016-03-20T10:27:53 < ReadError> oh what 2016-03-20T10:27:54 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-20T10:27:54 < PeterM> ^ 2016-03-20T10:27:57 < ReadError> dumb 2016-03-20T10:28:05 < ReadError> LT-* is linear ;( 2016-03-20T10:28:17 < dongs> also readstoner, i can't imagine a single application for this 2016-03-20T10:28:19 < dongs> that isn't cloning 2016-03-20T10:28:21 < PeterM> do you honestly think they'd tell you the ic o nit if they're chargin 9euro a pop for it? 2016-03-20T10:28:32 < dongs> ic is probablyt 0.09EUR 2016-03-20T10:28:36 < ReadError> dongs yes, cloning something that uses 10$ modules lol 2016-03-20T10:28:40 < PeterM> indeed dongs 2016-03-20T10:28:52 < dongs> PeterM: how fast can you dick EN pin this way 2016-03-20T10:28:58 < dongs> that sounds pretty neat to try sometime when im lazy 2016-03-20T10:29:16 < ReadError> ok now things make more sense 2016-03-20T10:29:26 < ReadError> thanks PeterM 2016-03-20T10:29:50 < PeterM> depends on the chip, but pretty much anything has no issues with less than 1khz 2016-03-20T10:30:14 < ReadError> i wasnt thinking about it on that level 2016-03-20T10:30:57 < ReadError> ohhh 2016-03-20T10:30:59 < PeterM> crt no the swithcing frequency is underlying, even 1khz pwm of the enable line wont be audable because switcher is running at like 250khz in the backgorund 2016-03-20T10:31:23 < ReadError> https://www.led-tech.de/images/products/resized/LT-2316-1408549809.jpg 2016-03-20T10:31:25 < ReadError> so that dimmer 2016-03-20T10:31:30 < ReadError> is made to drive a smaller LED 2016-03-20T10:31:43 < ReadError> or some other LED 2016-03-20T10:31:44 < PeterM> probs 2016-03-20T10:32:00 < ReadError> ok that explains the A/K thing then 2016-03-20T10:32:21 < ReadError> crt no idea 2016-03-20T10:32:43 < ReadError> nope 2016-03-20T10:32:52 < dongs> they link to a fucking forum 2016-03-20T10:32:54 < dongs> from product page 2016-03-20T10:33:00 < dongs> instantly disqualified 2016-03-20T10:33:07 < ReadError> They say: "The Driver can also be used with our PWM dimmer. The minus pad of the dimmer has to be connected to the PWM pad of the driver. You also need to connect a 2K-10K resistor (1/4W) to the output channel of the dimmer". 2016-03-20T10:33:07 < ReadError> They also show the wiring on one picture: https://www.led-tech.de/images/products/resized/LT-2316-1408549809.jpg. Since the light controller I am using also controls the colors with a PWM GND and a common plus, I just tried it this way with a 8.2k resistor and it worked well. 2016-03-20T10:33:29 < PeterM> if the en pin method is too slow, you can pwm the FB pin with your fb resistors in place, and when the PWM signal is high the FB pin sets the swithcing duty cycle to minimum 2016-03-20T10:34:51 < PeterM> then you jsut opto it 2016-03-20T10:35:42 < PeterM> if you're selling $1 of parts for $14 you can afford a 10c opto 2016-03-20T10:37:03 < PeterM> jesus fuck 2016-03-20T10:37:30 < dongs> what voltage do yo udo FB pin with then? 2016-03-20T10:37:37 < dongs> it has to be above the FB voltage from datasheet? 2016-03-20T10:38:02 < PeterM> thats almsot as bad as people who put soft starters o nmotors along 100m of cable, triacs swichin 100s of volts in uS, may as well be a fuckin am radio 2016-03-20T10:39:14 < PeterM> yeah above the feedback refrence voltage, but ofcourse below the max allowable on the pin 2016-03-20T10:40:07 < PeterM> also you want your PWM to oly pull the signal high, not pull the signal low too, so pch fet 2016-03-20T10:40:48 < PeterM> if you pull the signal low it will mung the overcurrent protect on most switchers 2016-03-20T10:44:13 < dongs> ah, thats too much work. but still prety cool 2016-03-20T10:44:48 < PeterM> if you cant find a dimmable boost led driver or w/e for a project you cna jsut use a nromal current limited boost and pwm the enable 2016-03-20T10:45:05 < PeterM> or if they're too spensive works too 2016-03-20T10:48:11 < PeterM> because if you drive string of 25leds you would need a 60v supply... 2016-03-20T10:50:02 < ReadError> this guy is using 18x of those bucks :x 2016-03-20T10:50:53 < ReadError> yea, 3 bucks per LED 2016-03-20T10:50:56 < ReadError> RGB LEDs 2016-03-20T10:51:20 < PeterM> wow... 2016-03-20T10:52:07 < PeterM> someons got money to burn, thats like a weekends worth of booze and a lifetiems worth of liver damage 2016-03-20T10:52:32 < PeterM> 18x modules, each module is 9 euro each 2016-03-20T10:53:21 < dongs> lol 2016-03-20T10:53:24 < dongs> i was just gonna say 2016-03-20T10:54:12 < PeterM> i've seen stupider too but doing like $200 on something that hsouuld be $20 is kinda ughk 2016-03-20T10:58:59 < dongs> what the fucking fuck 2016-03-20T10:59:02 < dongs> why is that $9k 2016-03-20T10:59:07 < dongs> is it car-sized 2016-03-20T10:59:46 < dongs> ah its motorized pantilt 2016-03-20T11:08:39 -!- la [779f5c74@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.159.92.116] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T11:08:42 < la> http://oortr.com/ZjllYz 2016-03-20T11:08:43 -!- la [779f5c74@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.159.92.116] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-20T11:08:49 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-20T11:08:52 < ReadError> wtf 2016-03-20T11:08:56 < ReadError> yes i will click that link 2016-03-20T11:16:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T11:18:40 < dongs> altidong fixed sch->pcb ECO speed 2016-03-20T11:18:42 < dongs> but 2016-03-20T11:18:46 < dongs> pb>ech is just as bad 2016-03-20T11:28:54 < dongs> time to head to sauna 2016-03-20T11:29:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T11:31:22 < upgrdman> i've got an spi lcd, but it also uses a command/data pin to mark if a byte is a register number or register value. any idea if this could somehow be hacked together with spi dma? on an f0 if it makes a difference. i don't think its possible, but maybe? 2016-03-20T11:31:53 < upgrdman> like sync a gpio dma with an spi dma 2016-03-20T11:52:32 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 2016-03-20T11:54:56 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T11:55:16 < XTL> How often do you need the commands 2016-03-20T11:55:55 < XTL> And do they have to be that fast. Maybe you can earmark the messages to the screen if you have a whole queue and set the register before starting a dma transfer 2016-03-20T11:55:55 < jpa-> yeah, seems like you could just put in the command at start of write and then stream the data non-stop 2016-03-20T11:56:27 < XTL> I would expect you don't need (or can't) send too much to a screen at once anyway 2016-03-20T11:56:33 < upgrdman> thats what im doing now 2016-03-20T11:56:47 < upgrdman> just wasnt sure if there was a better way 2016-03-20T11:57:14 < jpa-> you can sync SPI TX DMA and GPIO DMA pretty easily though, just run them off the same timer, and set the timer period to match the SPI speed 2016-03-20T11:57:31 < upgrdman> hmm k 2016-03-20T11:57:32 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T11:57:33 < jpa-> best way is always the simplest way that fulfills requirements; which requirements are you not meeting? 2016-03-20T11:58:15 < upgrdman> meets my needs. just deel dorty mixing polling and dma for the command and data parts 2016-03-20T11:58:27 < upgrdman> err feel dirty 2016-03-20T11:58:27 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T11:59:54 < jpa-> well, you can make it interrupt driven; you can't wait for SPI transfer complete with just DMA anyway 2016-03-20T11:59:55 < ReadError> are you in CHINA upgrdman? 2016-03-20T12:00:09 < upgrdman> yes 2016-03-20T12:00:15 < ReadError> how disgusting is it 2016-03-20T12:00:32 < upgrdman> mildly 2016-03-20T12:01:18 < PeterM> where in .cn? saying im in china is liek saying im in the USA - you could be in the bay area, or you could be in fucking detroit 2016-03-20T12:01:31 < upgrdman> shanghai 2016-03-20T12:05:11 < PeterM> oh, yeah, defs mildly disgusting 2016-03-20T12:05:40 < upgrdman> well it depends 2016-03-20T12:05:59 < upgrdman> even in sh, there are very nice areas, and very shitty areas 2016-03-20T12:06:08 < PeterM> indeed 2016-03-20T12:06:12 < PeterM> hence the mildly 2016-03-20T12:06:16 < upgrdman> like jiuting is bordlerline dosgusting 2016-03-20T12:06:32 < upgrdman> xujiahui is fairly nice 2016-03-20T12:06:34 < upgrdman> etc 2016-03-20T12:07:38 < upgrdman> i mainly hate having to use public transit 2016-03-20T12:08:09 < upgrdman> after living in so cal... fuck pub'ic transit 2016-03-20T12:08:48 < upgrdman> tree huggers can go fuck themselves. i'll drive, i dont care if it pollutes. 2016-03-20T12:09:36 < upgrdman> crt, dont. it sucks after the first week of "oh this is different, neat" 2016-03-20T12:10:04 < upgrdman> well enough 2016-03-20T12:10:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T12:12:05 < upgrdman> crt, although youmight want to try this http://www.farrellf.com/temp/business_cards_cn.jpg 2016-03-20T12:12:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-20T12:12:22 < upgrdman> or not, if you value your health 2016-03-20T12:12:46 < upgrdman> dunno 2016-03-20T12:14:04 < upgrdman> yes 2016-03-20T12:14:30 < upgrdman> ? uh yes 2016-03-20T12:15:11 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T12:26:18 < PeterM> crt isn't that just a russian dolls? 2016-03-20T12:26:48 < PeterM> yer 2016-03-20T12:50:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-20T12:55:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T12:57:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-20T13:03:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T13:03:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-20T13:22:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T13:33:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-20T13:35:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T13:43:37 < Steffanx> dongs is asleep crt 2016-03-20T13:44:30 < Steffanx> hows it pumping? 2016-03-20T13:44:55 < Steffanx> Excellent. 2016-03-20T13:46:00 < Steffanx> No i dont browse freelancer 2016-03-20T13:46:10 < Steffanx> No i dont browse kickstarter 2016-03-20T13:46:14 < Steffanx> No i dont browse kimgur 2016-03-20T13:48:53 < Steffanx> No the new st website is terrible 2016-03-20T13:49:53 < Steffanx> yeah, pro game. even the ai isnt that bad. 2016-03-20T13:54:35 < Steffanx> 12:54 2016-03-20T13:56:21 < Steffanx> almost monday? 2016-03-20T14:13:42 < Steffanx> poor you. 2016-03-20T14:13:56 < dongs> got stoned 2016-03-20T14:14:08 < Steffanx> he woke up :) 2016-03-20T14:20:15 < Steffanx> She? 2016-03-20T14:20:29 < dongs> http://www.monolithicpower.com/DesktopModules/DocumentManage/API/Document/GetDocument?id=2610 hah 2016-03-20T14:20:33 < dongs> thats cute 2016-03-20T14:22:12 < Steffanx> oh, Im not really familiar with those. Need to watch more gary movies and dave for that 2016-03-20T14:29:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T14:30:04 < Steffanx> Sadly even a second is already "too much" 2016-03-20T14:31:48 < Steffanx> I imagine you have the same voice/acent. 2016-03-20T14:31:58 < mitrax> are you talking about eeblog? 2016-03-20T14:32:03 < mitrax> (too lazy to scrollback) 2016-03-20T14:32:37 < Steffanx> what else mitrax 2016-03-20T14:32:56 < mitrax> i hate the guy's voice 2016-03-20T14:33:00 < mitrax> i guess everybody does 2016-03-20T14:35:43 < dongs> eevfag 2016-03-20T14:35:46 < dongs> selloutblog 2016-03-20T14:35:55 < dongs> actually, there's not even anything "ee" on tehre. 2016-03-20T14:36:09 < dongs> i learned more stoning aroudn this channel than I'd ever learn from watching that fucks garbage 2016-03-20T14:36:36 < dongs> his current schedule is like 2016-03-20T14:36:38 < dongs> teardown of dumb shit 2016-03-20T14:36:39 < Steffanx> i learned how to troll, but im not sure im proud of that. 2016-03-20T14:36:39 < zyp> well, duh, that's why we're here, no? 2016-03-20T14:36:41 < dongs> retareded mailbag 2016-03-20T14:36:49 < dongs> rant about something / vietnamese 2016-03-20T14:36:53 < dongs> repeat 2016-03-20T14:39:53 < Steffanx> Could try some pumping vlogging. 2016-03-20T14:40:48 < Steffanx> ( i still dont know what definition of "pumper" is the right one :P ) 2016-03-20T14:42:20 < dongs> do they have any single slot gfx980s 2016-03-20T14:43:48 < dongs> http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-980-TI-KINGPIN_Single-Slot.jpg lol 2016-03-20T14:44:00 < dongs> crt, thats not single slot 2016-03-20T14:44:08 < dongs> to use it in that configuration you have to do some retarded watercooling shit 2016-03-20T14:44:33 < dongs> i dunno, a fucking fan??? 2016-03-20T14:45:36 < Steffanx> lol ebay. .. bought some random ebay electronics crap. The sellers emailaddress: service@catsuits-latex.com 2016-03-20T14:45:36 < Steffanx> yay. 2016-03-20T14:45:45 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-03-20T14:46:06 < mitrax> electronics crap? dildos? 2016-03-20T14:46:21 < dongs> thanks for the order, Steffanx 2016-03-20T14:46:45 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-03-20T14:46:46 < Steffanx> How can i not buy jumper wires for $0.99 even when they turn out to be semi-crappy. 2016-03-20T14:47:12 < Steffanx> Yes, female to female 2016-03-20T14:47:58 < Steffanx> one can never have enough of those. 2016-03-20T14:54:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-20T14:59:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.225] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T15:14:03 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T15:28:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T15:56:29 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-20T16:03:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T16:06:07 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-20T16:14:30 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-20T16:15:54 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T16:20:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T16:25:13 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-20T16:28:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-20T16:35:03 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-20T16:40:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T16:46:27 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T16:46:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:94bc:6f25:adc8:733a] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T17:02:40 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T17:04:16 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T17:04:36 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-20T17:16:39 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T17:25:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-20T17:29:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.151] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T17:47:03 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd9YTD1VAAEp0_G.jpg:large 2016-03-20T17:51:42 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-20T18:00:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-20T18:01:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T18:04:49 < kakimir> what does *-q1 mean in ti parts other than automotive? 2016-03-20T18:05:00 < Steffanx> Why blur the faces of the dancers and not all the other people around her? 2016-03-20T18:05:21 < Steffanx> Dancers were to ugly? 2016-03-20T18:06:37 < mitrax> gaaah i'm trying to redirect newlib's printf() output by overriding _write() and puts(), if i printf("blah %d\n", 1); printf("foo"); printf("bar\n"); i get "blah 1bar" the second call output is lost wtf (nor _write() or puts() get called for it) 2016-03-20T18:07:42 < dongs> bro 2016-03-20T18:07:46 < dongs> stop printf debugging 2016-03-20T18:07:51 < mitrax> that's not for debugging 2016-03-20T18:08:37 < mitrax> the board has an LCD, i want the boot loader to output stuff to a console when it does an upgrade 2016-03-20T18:08:48 < PaulFertser> mitrax: that's probably because you override puts(). You should only override _write(). 2016-03-20T18:09:07 < PaulFertser> mitrax: printf will call puts if it has only a single argument. 2016-03-20T18:09:21 < PaulFertser> But to avoid any possible confusion, just override _write, and nothing more. 2016-03-20T18:10:07 < mitrax> PaulFertser: ok well i removed my puts() implementation, same thing 2016-03-20T18:10:45 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-20T18:11:55 < PaulFertser> mitrax: so you expect you get foobar but foo is last altogether? 2016-03-20T18:12:08 < dongs> what d oes your _write do? 2016-03-20T18:12:16 < dongs> dump stuff to uart? 2016-03-20T18:12:23 < dongs> do you wait until previous shit has been sent? 2016-03-20T18:12:25 < PaulFertser> mitrax: you're not supposed to see _write called until you print a newline (the stdout is line-buffered by default). 2016-03-20T18:12:44 < dongs> fflush(lolout) 2016-03-20T18:12:49 < mitrax> dongs: no write to memory for the LCD 2016-03-20T18:12:58 < dongs> ffs 2016-03-20T18:13:05 < dongs> why dont you just make a fucking lcd_write() 2016-03-20T18:13:09 < mitrax> PaulFertser: yes foo is lost 2016-03-20T18:13:11 < dongs> why hte fuck woudl you even use printf for this 2016-03-20T18:14:16 < mitrax> dongs: i have one... i just want to redirect printf() as well 2016-03-20T18:16:06 < mitrax> PaulFertser: if i disable buffering with setvbuf(stdout, NULL, _IONBF, 0); it's even weirder, i only get the first line, _write() is called only once 2016-03-20T18:16:42 < mitrax> dongs: i will skip that shit if it's not working properly, i just want the convenience of printf() formatting without sprintf() to a temporary buff 2016-03-20T18:16:48 < filt3r> mitrax, i have seen the same issue before, but i've never found a fix for it though 2016-03-20T18:17:03 < dongs> mitrax: .. use varargs 2016-03-20T18:17:16 < dongs> make lcd_print("faggot %s", foo) etc. 2016-03-20T18:17:17 < filt3r> the workaround was to always add a newline in every printf . . . 2016-03-20T18:17:18 < PaulFertser> mitrax: are you returning len from _write? 2016-03-20T18:18:23 < mitrax> PaulFertser: uh oh .... there's my culprit *cough* 2016-03-20T18:18:27 * mitrax hides 2016-03-20T18:18:46 < mitrax> PaulFerster: works perfectly now, thanks :) 2016-03-20T18:19:09 < PaulFertser> mitrax: :) 2016-03-20T18:20:10 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T18:24:50 < dongs> BREAKING: U.S. Central Command announces boots-on-the-ground detachment of the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit for ground operations in Iraq; military says mission is to support efforts against Islamic State 2016-03-20T18:25:33 < kakimir> iraq war is back? 2016-03-20T18:26:48 < Steffanx> irc beaking news? 2016-03-20T18:27:16 < Steffanx> source ? 2016-03-20T18:27:50 < dongs> internet 2016-03-20T18:27:55 < Steffanx> -_- 2016-03-20T18:28:29 < dongs> https://www.dvidshub.net/news/192967/26th-marine-expeditionary-unit-forces-ground-iraq#.Vu7Prqd96DM 2016-03-20T18:29:46 < Steffanx> :) 2016-03-20T18:31:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-20T18:32:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T18:52:35 < kakimir> 0.10 Isolate 1 = Electrical isolation of PHY from RMII 2016-03-20T18:52:38 < kakimir> what is this 2016-03-20T19:17:28 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T19:22:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-20T19:30:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.251] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T19:43:36 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T19:58:27 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-20T20:02:31 < Laurenceb_> holy shit this is legit 2016-03-20T20:02:32 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/wJ05AnI 2016-03-20T20:08:30 < Steffanx> Now you'll never know how those people are. Your life will never be complete. 2016-03-20T20:09:12 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T20:09:24 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: if you do a search on those exact words (within quotes) for muslims you get 267000 hits, "jews[...]" 30100, for "christians[...]" 8720, "buddhists[...]" 1340, so it's kinda consistent with the suggestions 2016-03-20T20:09:54 < mitrax> Laurenceb: now i thought the suggestions were based on existing search queries, not actual results, so i don't know 2016-03-20T20:12:07 < Steffanx> Also change it to "christianity is" or "islam is" and your life will be complete again. 2016-03-20T20:16:44 < Steffanx> You should care about more important things Laurenceb_ 2016-03-20T20:17:02 < Steffanx> Like putting a list in an string and do string compare to check if a list changed. 2016-03-20T20:24:58 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T20:25:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-20T20:27:04 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-77-190.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T20:28:16 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-231.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-20T20:30:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-20T20:31:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.151] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T20:34:20 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-173-112.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T20:34:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-77-190.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-20T20:43:14 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-20T20:50:08 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T21:05:02 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T21:05:25 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T21:31:02 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-20T21:54:47 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-20T21:54:47 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T22:08:01 < ohsix> weather went monsoon inside 5 minutes 2016-03-20T22:11:52 < kakimir> cold and dark continues 2016-03-20T22:15:33 < lorenzo> http://www.amazon.com/Putin-Riding-Bear-Action-Figure/dp/B00X61MVE8 2016-03-20T22:24:55 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T22:31:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-20T22:34:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T22:36:26 < ohsix> heyyy jeffrey jones was in a movie after the pedo junk, '10.0 earthquake' from 2014 2016-03-20T22:37:12 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T22:42:33 < ohsix> dongs: why does windows never remember credentials when i tell it to 2016-03-20T22:43:26 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-20T22:48:05 < ohsix> Persistence: Enterprise 2016-03-20T22:48:10 < ohsix> i guess that explains why it doesn't work 2016-03-20T22:57:25 < Steffanx> windows or your browser forgets it ohsix? 2016-03-20T22:57:25 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-173-112.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-20T23:05:22 < ohsix> windows 2016-03-20T23:05:46 < ohsix> they are stored in the thing that's supposed to store them, just doesn't work 2016-03-20T23:17:19 < Laurenceb_> http://www.google.com/patents/US20150260168 2016-03-20T23:20:11 < ohsix> dongs: alvin and the chipmunks is out 2016-03-20T23:24:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-20T23:27:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:94bc:6f25:adc8:733a] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-20T23:28:13 < kakimir> nice display driver beta 2016-03-20T23:28:54 < kakimir> faults to black screen when pc is suspended 2016-03-20T23:29:00 < kakimir> kikelake is not ready 2016-03-20T23:31:10 < kakimir> is there irc channels for blheli/simonk? 2016-03-20T23:32:41 < ohsix> any with simon on it 2016-03-20T23:33:34 < ReadError> kakimir wat do you want to know 2016-03-20T23:34:45 < kakimir> if I wanted to scale power output range by modifying the code 2016-03-20T23:35:02 < kakimir> limit switch on time to say 2016-03-20T23:35:57 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T23:36:27 < ReadError> huh 2016-03-20T23:37:35 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Quit: mint->ubuntu ja sysv->upstart -päivitys apt-getillä; saletisti toimii] 2016-03-20T23:38:27 < kakimir> effectivelly limit current 2016-03-20T23:41:29 < kakimir> ? 2016-03-20T23:45:05 < ReadError> most the escs dont have current shunts 2016-03-20T23:45:13 < ReadError> not SK/BLheli ones anyways 2016-03-20T23:46:01 < kakimir> you don't need a shunt 2016-03-20T23:46:29 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-173-112.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T23:47:17 < ReadError> measuring Rds(on) ? 2016-03-20T23:47:17 < kakimir> if you are not maximizing the motor 2016-03-20T23:47:28 < kakimir> yes there is resistance 2016-03-20T23:47:42 < kakimir> and based on that you can calculate crude values 2016-03-20T23:48:26 < kakimir> ideally you would have that maximum pwm per rotation speed or so 2016-03-20T23:49:04 < ohsix> read the code 2016-03-20T23:49:12 < ReadError> ya and thats not in the code 2016-03-20T23:49:49 < kakimir> the ideal case is not 2016-03-20T23:50:05 < kakimir> but there is different low speed area with power multiplier 2016-03-20T23:50:19 < kakimir> you could have not 1 but 2 crude values 2016-03-20T23:50:42 < ReadError> then add the code 2016-03-20T23:51:10 < ohsix> two crude doodz 2016-03-20T23:51:11 < kakimir> hey.. I forgot there is need to compensate for battery voltage too!! 2016-03-20T23:51:29 < kakimir> battery voltage vs. backemf 2016-03-20T23:51:36 < ReadError> kakimir get a ESC32 2016-03-20T23:51:44 < ReadError> stm32 esc 2016-03-20T23:51:49 < ReadError> china clones are cheap 2016-03-20T23:52:00 < kakimir> looks kood 2016-03-20T23:52:24 < kakimir> looks future 2016-03-20T23:53:35 < kakimir> it has some c code for it? 2016-03-20T23:53:49 < ReadError> yes 2016-03-20T23:54:01 < kakimir> ohsix: it's like 20k lines of asm 2016-03-20T23:55:15 < kakimir> wow esc32 has current limit 2016-03-20T23:55:39 < ReadError> yes 2016-03-20T23:56:23 < ohsix> the parts you care about are only going to be a small part 2016-03-20T23:57:09 < ohsix> there's junk to see if it stopped commutating and a speed governor and some other crap, with the qualification that i don't remember if this describes simonk or blheli cuz it's been a while 2016-03-20T23:57:26 < ohsix> a couple of ways to indirectly limit current 2016-03-20T23:58:00 < ohsix> it's just to protect the mosfets, short high current excursions are going to be fine if they're short and shit 2016-03-20T23:58:01 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-20T23:58:09 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-20T23:58:16 < kakimir> mosfets can handle stuff 2016-03-20T23:59:01 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-20T23:59:37 < ohsix> stuff 2016-03-20T23:59:43 < ohsix> which parts explode then --- Day changed Mon Mar 21 2016 2016-03-21T00:00:14 < kakimir> propably the lame ass battery I plan to use 2016-03-21T00:00:56 < kakimir> nothing should explode if you can limit output power 2016-03-21T00:02:31 -!- Peter [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:02:54 -!- Peter is now known as Guest21731 2016-03-21T00:03:07 < kakimir> even when fet currents go momentarily above some figure it means pretty much nothing as long the average current stays low 2016-03-21T00:03:41 < ohsix> what would you do if you had a current sense, limit the rpm? 2016-03-21T00:04:25 < kakimir> indirectly - yes 2016-03-21T00:04:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-21T00:04:58 < kakimir> by limiting switching times / pwm the rpm comes down doesnt it? 2016-03-21T00:05:02 < ohsix> why wouldn't you just limit the rpm from the outset 2016-03-21T00:05:28 < ReadError> run closed loop 2016-03-21T00:05:48 < ReadError> governed 2016-03-21T00:06:39 < kakimir> ReadError: what if some mechanical issue causes extra load to motor? 2016-03-21T00:07:02 < kakimir> esc turns fets full on to keep rpm 2016-03-21T00:08:22 < kakimir> something gives 2016-03-21T00:08:41 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-154-148.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:08:48 < ohsix> http://predb.me/?search=votetedcruz2016 2016-03-21T00:09:01 < ohsix> there's no part on, there's just the switching rate and the pulse width 2016-03-21T00:09:09 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-21T00:09:36 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-173-112.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-21T00:09:50 < ohsix> the motor will stop commutating right if there's an 'extra load' 2016-03-21T00:10:22 < ohsix> might not be fast enough to avoid damage but you wouldn't be that close to exploding in the first place 2016-03-21T00:10:35 < Sync> rpm are not limited by current 2016-03-21T00:10:43 < Sync> they are limited by the frequency 2016-03-21T00:11:35 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:11:36 < ohsix> just gotta make sure your startup sequence doesn't nuke the fetz if it really is stalled 2016-03-21T00:11:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T00:13:15 < kakimir> in case of propeller rpm is limited by power you input to motor 2016-03-21T00:15:11 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:16:01 < kakimir> ohsix: motor will not stop commutating as long there is enought power to keep it moving. and there is nothing to stop overloading condition 2016-03-21T00:16:16 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-21T00:16:29 < kakimir> it doesn't just give up and stall 2016-03-21T00:16:33 -!- albru124 is now known as albru123 2016-03-21T00:17:02 < kakimir> something must overcome the torque of motor first 2016-03-21T00:17:38 < kakimir> like grass and dirt 2016-03-21T00:19:30 < jadew> I ordered this: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=860-BBCG 2016-03-21T00:20:13 < jadew> if it's shit too, I'll get an LG and if that's shit too I don't know what I'll do 2016-03-21T00:22:39 < jadew> dongs has a 4k monitor, I plan to buy 2 more for that money 2016-03-21T00:25:01 < ohsix> oog 2016-03-21T00:25:06 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.13] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-21T00:25:10 < ohsix> have you also heard how often they don't come on right after blanking 2016-03-21T00:25:22 < jadew> heh 2016-03-21T00:25:46 < jadew> I'm scared it may only be hype 2016-03-21T00:26:00 < ohsix> it's all about the lg 8k monitors now 2016-03-21T00:26:15 < jadew> it seem to me that Dell is the Apple of monitors 2016-03-21T00:26:24 < ReadError> i would never buy a dell 4k monitor 2016-03-21T00:26:30 < ReadError> after hearing about all the retarded issues 2016-03-21T00:26:35 < ReadError> ASUS 4 LYFE 2016-03-21T00:26:36 < ohsix> they make nice stuff 2016-03-21T00:26:41 < jadew> what issues? 2016-03-21T00:26:44 < ohsix> but you pay for it 2016-03-21T00:26:52 < ReadError> jadew like, turning them off 2016-03-21T00:27:04 < ReadError> disconnects them and re-arranges all your windows 2016-03-21T00:27:19 < jadew> heh 2016-03-21T00:27:49 < jadew> hope I won't have a lot of issues with it, if it sucks I have another option, but it's a bit bigger than I'd like and it will be hard to fit 3 on my desk 2016-03-21T00:28:17 < jadew> http://www.lg.com/de/monitore/lg-24MB67PY-B 2016-03-21T00:28:41 < ohsix> snaked up 2016-03-21T00:29:20 < ohsix> kakimir: they aren't using emf to sync to the motor? 2016-03-21T00:29:21 < jadew> I figured that since LG is one of the major players in panel manufacturing, their business line should be pretty good 2016-03-21T00:30:48 < ohsix> isn't samsung still like the 70% beast 2016-03-21T00:31:08 < kakimir> ohsix: you don't sync the motor.. you sync the esc to motor 2016-03-21T00:31:21 < ohsix> how do you do that 2016-03-21T00:33:16 < kakimir> you have some variables and shiet you calculate the motor angle from zero points you know and then interpolate the rest you know? 2016-03-21T00:33:20 < ohsix> oic the samsung thing was only oled and for a small time 2016-03-21T00:33:34 < ohsix> kakimir: how do you know the zero points 2016-03-21T00:33:36 < kakimir> there is some loop iterating the rotor angle 2016-03-21T00:33:39 -!- emeb [~ericb@75-167-12-112.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:33:45 < kakimir> ohsix: you measure them fool 2016-03-21T00:33:45 < ReadError> kakimir you can run a sensor'd motor 2016-03-21T00:33:54 < ReadError> most are sensorless though 2016-03-21T00:34:00 < ohsix> is one of the ways to measure them emf? 2016-03-21T00:34:23 < kakimir> that definitelly is the way in aerial devices 2016-03-21T00:35:00 < ohsix> so if the motor becomes unsynchronized from the emf the motor was tracking, what happens 2016-03-21T00:35:17 < ohsix> s/motor was tracking/esc was tracking/ 2016-03-21T00:35:46 < kakimir> it calibrates itself all the time 2016-03-21T00:36:44 < kakimir> if it stalls it shuts down 2016-03-21T00:36:52 < ohsix> how does it know it stalled 2016-03-21T00:37:06 < kakimir> some timeout 2016-03-21T00:38:21 < kakimir> no pulses measured for amount of time 2016-03-21T00:38:23 < kakimir> stalled 2016-03-21T00:38:40 < ohsix> k 2016-03-21T00:40:10 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:51:47 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T00:55:43 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [] 2016-03-21T01:08:00 < ohsix> hahaha digital homicide is sewing jim sterling for 10m$ 2016-03-21T01:08:47 < jadew> haven't heard of any of them 2016-03-21T01:08:49 < jadew> who are they? 2016-03-21T01:17:49 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/zmoiF.jpg 2016-03-21T01:18:29 < jadew> lol 2016-03-21T01:19:13 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-21T01:19:34 < jadew> you have to wonder what happened 2016-03-21T01:27:03 < kakimir> when dongs have translation jobs 2016-03-21T01:31:43 < ohsix> gigabutts achieved 2016-03-21T01:32:23 < ohsix> jadew: it's like one dude that's been spamming steam with reall ybad stuff, basically all jim sterling plays; so he's talked shit about them at length, and there was a recorded phone conversation where they were reading off a script and threatening him and stuff 2016-03-21T01:32:30 < ohsix> dunning kruger maybe 2016-03-21T01:33:54 < ohsix> ogh they have a .ninja domain name 2016-03-21T01:34:40 < ohsix> https://www.gofundme.com/47uexn9c jaja 2016-03-21T01:35:04 < ohsix> nevermind 2016-03-21T01:35:12 < ohsix> they can't pay a lawyer if this doesn't success 2016-03-21T01:35:56 < ohsix> they participate in a bunch of the early access scams, giving out keys and stuff 2016-03-21T01:36:42 < ohsix> http://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=Digital%20Homicide%20Studios 2016-03-21T01:37:01 < ohsix> they recently posted the same game to green light twice, one had a different title card and the camera position was different 2016-03-21T01:44:00 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-03-21T01:47:36 < kakimir> does tamper active time stamping work when powered from vbat? 2016-03-21T01:48:00 < jadew> ohsix, sounds like a scandal I'd like to follow 2016-03-21T01:48:13 < kakimir> is it even real thing or just some piece of software they reffer to 2016-03-21T01:48:17 < jadew> the feminist movement has gotten kinda stale lately 2016-03-21T01:50:32 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-21T01:51:26 < jadew> I wonder for how long it's going to keep going, the silliness of it all is amazing 2016-03-21T01:53:45 < kakimir> pls carry on 2016-03-21T01:53:48 < jadew> I don't think even 3% of women agree with what the current wave has to say 2016-03-21T01:54:13 < jadew> cuz... you know... rationality 2016-03-21T01:55:26 < kakimir> it's terror of few 2016-03-21T01:55:37 < kakimir> *a terror of a few 2016-03-21T01:55:55 < jadew> yeah, but they're so vocal they make actual damage 2016-03-21T01:55:56 < mitrax> kakimir: most definitely 2016-03-21T01:57:00 < jadew> http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/jun/11/nobel-laureate-sir-tim-hunt-resigns-trouble-with-girls-comments 2016-03-21T01:59:58 < mitrax> then before that there was mozilla CEO 2016-03-21T02:00:06 < kakimir> I need some tamper circuit that is proven to work with vbat 2016-03-21T02:00:22 < jadew> and the guy who landed that probe on the commet 2016-03-21T02:00:51 < jadew> (for the first time in the history of the world)( 2016-03-21T02:01:00 < jadew> they ruined his great day... 2016-03-21T02:01:23 < mitrax> didn't know about that one, what happened? 2016-03-21T02:01:51 < jadew> the guy was wearing a shirt with some chicks on it when he was giving the interview 2016-03-21T02:02:02 < jadew> a shirt he received a gift from a female colegue 2016-03-21T02:02:10 < jadew> *collegue 2016-03-21T02:03:08 < jadew> https://www.rt.com/news/208003-taylor-rosetta-comet-shirtstorm/ 2016-03-21T02:03:34 < mitrax> what the fuck 2016-03-21T02:05:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:05:41 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:05:57 < mitrax> sad world 2016-03-21T02:09:05 < ohsix> jadew: it was boring/dead, the lawsuit thing is digital homicide trolling for attention again 2016-03-21T02:09:34 < ohsix> if they're making any money at all it's in a direct feedback loop with jim sterling talking about the games 2016-03-21T02:09:44 < jadew> ohsix, yeah, found an article about it, I don't think they'd have much of a case anyway 2016-03-21T02:10:16 < ohsix> it's a total waste of time, but the phone interview or whatever it was is funny 2016-03-21T02:10:27 < jadew> heh, I was wondering the other day how much money can those game producers make from < $1 titles 2016-03-21T02:10:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:10:45 < ohsix> i'm risking sounding like i care about it more than i do, time to do something else ;D 2016-03-21T02:11:17 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-21T02:11:24 < jadew> I'm looking for a bit of a distraction, then I'll get back to work 2016-03-21T02:12:11 < ohsix> radiolab 2016-03-21T02:12:47 < jadew> what's that? 2016-03-21T02:13:47 < ohsix> a podcast, it's pretty good 2016-03-21T02:18:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:18:58 < FatalNIX> on stm32, what's the difference beetween TIM_CH1N and TIM1_CH1 ? 2016-03-21T02:19:46 < ReadError> N is opposite/invereted 2016-03-21T02:20:06 < FatalNIX> huh 2016-03-21T02:20:12 < FatalNIX> I think i know what that means.. 2016-03-21T02:20:35 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKdDJ4dVdvd1FFbTA/view?usp=sharing I leave all external pullups out 2016-03-21T02:22:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@75-167-12-112.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T02:24:12 < FatalNIX> so an inverted timer channel, does that mean that the timing pulses are just active low or something 2016-03-21T02:24:13 < FatalNIX> ? 2016-03-21T02:24:25 < FatalNIX> which shouldn't make a difference at all.. 2016-03-21T02:25:04 < kakimir> difference to what? 2016-03-21T02:25:10 < kakimir> it makes difference to many things 2016-03-21T02:25:48 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:26:23 < FatalNIX> well I'm looking at the alternative fuctions list for this disco, and for this lab I just gotta PWM the led on the board. The only timer AF available is on he secondary led and it is TIM1_CH1N 2016-03-21T02:27:28 < FatalNIX> for class 2016-03-21T02:28:00 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-21T02:28:47 < FatalNIX> wait what 2016-03-21T02:28:53 < FatalNIX> the guy has dong and wang in his name 2016-03-21T02:30:57 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-152-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:36:38 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.25.73.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T02:40:41 < jadew> it's monday here, we'll see how it goes 2016-03-21T02:40:51 < jadew> I'm supposed to get the 1 Gbps connection today 2016-03-21T02:41:15 < ohsix> people say they monkey around 2016-03-21T02:59:43 < kakimir> junction temperature 210celsius 2016-03-21T02:59:47 < kakimir> is this normal? 2016-03-21T02:59:55 < jadew> for what? 2016-03-21T03:00:06 < jadew> it sounds hot for many things 2016-03-21T03:01:14 < kakimir> http://www.ti.com/product/TPS62000-HT some niche buck regulator 2016-03-21T03:01:28 < kakimir> extra low everything but temperature 2016-03-21T03:01:44 < kakimir> and almost a hundred per one chip 2016-03-21T03:02:36 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-21T03:03:25 < kakimir> there is normal one that costs nothing 2016-03-21T03:04:05 < jadew> lol kakimir, that's not the junction temperature 2016-03-21T03:04:07 < kakimir> http://www.findchips.com/search/TPS62000SHKK 2016-03-21T03:04:08 < jadew> it's the temperature rating 2016-03-21T03:04:30 < jadew> it means it can work at that temperature 2016-03-21T03:05:38 < kakimir> I need to aske for samples 2016-03-21T03:06:18 < kakimir> sorry it's ambient but hey what is the difference? 2016-03-21T03:06:41 < kakimir> it's not going to magically cool itself inside 2016-03-21T03:06:45 < jadew> kakimir, it's not the temperature it's generating 2016-03-21T03:06:53 < jadew> it's the temperature it can work at 2016-03-21T03:07:02 < jadew> as in, it will still do its job 2016-03-21T03:08:56 < kakimir> so.. the junction temperature is then higher 2016-03-21T03:09:23 < ohsix> wait wat 2016-03-21T03:09:30 < ohsix> mosfets don't work unless they're running at 210c? 2016-03-21T03:10:34 < kakimir> no that chip will run at -55 too 2016-03-21T03:10:59 < ohsix> do they have filaments 2016-03-21T03:11:07 < ohsix> need dat heat for thermionic emissions 2016-03-21T03:13:46 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-21T03:13:59 < kakimir> I wonder how they solder stuff 2016-03-21T03:14:30 < kakimir> just rohs it and it takes 400celsius to melt that solder 2016-03-21T03:17:26 < aandrew> dongs: what were those protected output drivers you liked to use? 2016-03-21T03:19:19 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.220] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T03:22:04 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ck@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T03:22:54 < ColdKeyboard> I'm using Timer 2 to generate PWM output on channels 1-4 2016-03-21T03:22:59 < ColdKeyboard> This is my init code http://pastie.org/10768076 2016-03-21T03:23:22 < ColdKeyboard> Channel 1 is working fine when I set compare value, but channels 2, 3 and 4 don't work :\ 2016-03-21T03:24:53 < ColdKeyboard> Any ideas or suggestions how to fix it or what am I doing wrong? 2016-03-21T03:25:40 < ColdKeyboard> Also I see in docs that I can use PA and PB for TIM2 channels, not sure if I can chose or I have to pick certain port in certain modes 2016-03-21T03:32:09 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T03:35:31 < dongs> aandrew: which context 2016-03-21T03:35:47 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-21T03:40:36 < aandrew> dongs: some mosfet that you are in love with for power outputs. has internal protection so it doesn't shit itself 2016-03-21T03:41:23 < dongs> you mean general pfet shit? irlml6301 or someshit like that 2016-03-21T03:48:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T03:48:50 < kakimir> it is about the same price to butt low Iq LDO 5->3v3 in design than butt some low Iq buck in there 2016-03-21T03:49:00 < kakimir> also the cap is the same 2016-03-21T03:49:31 < kakimir> just add some 1µH inductor and it's dones 2016-03-21T03:50:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T03:51:46 < dongs> cool pro blog bro 2016-03-21T03:55:34 < kakimir> crt = creature 2016-03-21T03:59:43 < kakimir> do you 2016-03-21T04:03:34 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.220] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-21T04:03:38 < kakimir> I have done it for this project I'm working on 2016-03-21T04:03:52 < dongs> assburgers 2016-03-21T04:04:14 < kakimir> true 2016-03-21T04:04:36 < kakimir> guys I just found the best lullaby 2016-03-21T04:04:44 < kakimir> sound of big diesel engines 2016-03-21T04:05:16 < kakimir> humming 2016-03-21T04:09:21 < kakimir> I'm the definition of autism 2016-03-21T04:11:08 < kakimir> the original autism boy 2016-03-21T04:18:34 < dongs> any NT cmd pros? I need to pass lol.txt as argument, but only use lol + add my own extension for output 2016-03-21T04:19:04 < ColdKeyboard> http://pastie.org/10768076 2016-03-21T04:19:21 < ColdKeyboard> Why is this init working for channel 1 but not for others (2, 3 and 4) ? 2016-03-21T04:22:28 < dongs> looks ok to me 2016-03-21T04:22:31 < dongs> i guess 2016-03-21T04:23:16 < ColdKeyboard> I'm settin compare values with 2016-03-21T04:23:24 < ColdKeyboard> TIM_SetCompare1(TIM2, value); //works fine 2016-03-21T04:23:39 < ColdKeyboard> TIM_SetCompare2(TIM2, value); //doesn't work 2016-03-21T04:24:03 < ColdKeyboard> So I'm not sure where did I screw up :\ 2016-03-21T04:24:06 < dongs> do you have some proper IDE to inspect TIMx->CCR 2016-03-21T04:24:10 < dongs> or in general TIM2 registers 2016-03-21T04:24:12 < dongs> to see if it sworking 2016-03-21T04:24:39 < ColdKeyboard> I'm using eclipse with OpenOCD 2016-03-21T04:27:27 < dongs> see if you also need to set ARR 2016-03-21T04:28:44 < ColdKeyboard> Hmmm... seems like, among other things, I messed up with recieving data from USB 2016-03-21T04:29:01 < ColdKeyboard> :\ 2016-03-21T04:30:45 < FatalNIX> WTF? 2016-03-21T04:30:48 < dongs> shit game is shit 2016-03-21T04:31:05 < FatalNIX> I've never had that happen before, my STM32L476 disco won't let me set the alternative function of a pin.. 2016-03-21T04:31:07 < FatalNIX> er 2016-03-21T04:31:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-21T04:31:13 < FatalNIX> won't let me put it into alternative function mode 2016-03-21T04:31:23 < FatalNIX> it just says nope and sets it to output 2016-03-21T04:31:40 < jadew> R2COM, haha :P 2016-03-21T04:31:41 < FatalNIX> anyone ever have an issue like that? 2016-03-21T04:31:53 < jadew> you saw that, eh? :P 2016-03-21T04:32:28 < jadew> it's my go-to activity when I need to releave some stress 2016-03-21T04:32:30 < ColdKeyboard> Worms is the best game if you want to make enemies :) 2016-03-21T04:32:44 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-21T04:32:51 < jadew> I change my nickname a lot 2016-03-21T04:33:10 < jadew> everyone gangs up on me 2016-03-21T04:33:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T04:33:49 < jadew> R2COM, btw, those 1800 hours are in reloaded, not armageddon 2016-03-21T04:35:05 < jadew> 1800 / 24 = 75 2016-03-21T04:35:11 < jadew> yeah... that's a lot 2016-03-21T04:35:38 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-21T04:35:40 < ohsix> er 2016-03-21T04:36:28 < jadew> ah, look at that you have 767 hours in that arma 3 2016-03-21T04:36:35 < FatalNIX> Does anyone see anything wrong here?: http://pastie.org/private/mzuoy205zekiryeqkdyzq 2016-03-21T04:36:47 < jadew> and you're looking at me funny :P 2016-03-21T04:36:52 < FatalNIX> like I said, no matter what I do I can't set PE8 as an Alternative Function 2016-03-21T04:36:55 < jadew> well, I don't play other games 2016-03-21T04:37:21 < jadew> you have a dick in your comments section 2016-03-21T04:37:37 < jadew> dick and balls 2016-03-21T04:38:03 < jadew> yeah, it proves you did good 2016-03-21T04:40:02 < ohsix> #multiwii i'm glad they're popular so people other than me are watching them :D 2016-03-21T04:40:05 < ohsix> oops 2016-03-21T04:44:13 < FatalNIX> I blame keil's compiler. 2016-03-21T04:44:16 < FatalNIX> I fixed it 2016-03-21T04:50:17 -!- rcc` [~razvan@188.25.73.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T04:50:25 < FatalNIX> keil has always been busted :P 2016-03-21T04:50:32 < FatalNIX> I found a bug in its' debugger the other day XD 2016-03-21T04:50:35 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.25.73.185] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-03-21T04:50:37 < FatalNIX> but that's okay, it works 2016-03-21T04:50:41 -!- rcc` is now known as rcc 2016-03-21T04:50:54 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-21T04:51:37 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T04:53:45 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.25.73.185] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-21T04:53:45 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/rcc] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T04:57:28 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/rcc] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-03-21T05:08:10 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T05:14:24 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T05:26:09 < ColdKeyboard> I'm sending data over USB. Report size is 2 bytes. Whenever the 1st byte is 0x05, it's like device didn't even recieve it. 0-4 works fine, but 0x05 just dissapears :\ 2016-03-21T05:26:23 < ColdKeyboard> Is it some USB protocol stuff that I'm missing or something else? 2016-03-21T05:28:27 < dekar> ColdKeyboard, I think the first byte is the endpoint and you have to declare those in the USB descriptors to the host. Are you using Windows? I think Windows actually checks those and drops everything that doesn't comply silently. 2016-03-21T05:30:15 < ColdKeyboard> I'm using some STM custom HID example. And it worked just fine except that 0x05 never gets from host to the device :\ 2016-03-21T05:30:41 < ColdKeyboard> Yes I'm using windows. I guess I'll have to increase the report size to 3 bytes and set 1st byte always to 0x00 :\ 2016-03-21T05:32:45 < dekar> ColdKeyboard, you should also have a look at their descriptors for that. From what I remember they declare the first bunch of endpoints to be single bytes controlling LEDs. 2016-03-21T05:34:18 < ColdKeyboard> I will. Thank's dekar 2016-03-21T05:40:01 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T05:40:31 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T05:41:19 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T05:43:45 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T05:52:05 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T05:55:34 < jadew> I just used goto 2016-03-21T05:56:31 < emeb_mac> you'll burn for that 2016-03-21T05:56:42 < jadew> I feel like I've grown 2016-03-21T05:56:58 < jadew> haven't used it in maybe... 15 years 2016-03-21T05:57:32 < jadew> but it makes so much sense here and I can think of a couple other similar situations where it would make the code much much cleaner 2016-03-21T05:57:36 < emeb_mac> won't you feel stupid when you die and find out that Edsger Dijkstra is guarding the pearly gates. 2016-03-21T05:57:52 < jadew> emeb_mac, heh 2016-03-21T05:57:59 < jadew> we're not in the 60's tho 2016-03-21T05:58:30 < emeb_mac> I often use goto to to cleanly skip over code in error conditions 2016-03-21T05:58:49 < jadew> I just used to continue over 2 loops 2016-03-21T05:58:59 < Laurenceb_> jadew: get in the chamber 2016-03-21T05:59:06 < jadew> seems so much nicer than having a flag 2016-03-21T05:59:18 < ohsix> single exit point > prohibition against goto 2016-03-21T05:59:34 < jadew> ohsix, if you agree to that :) 2016-03-21T05:59:52 < Laurenceb_> gasgasgasgasgas 2016-03-21T05:59:53 < emeb_mac> it's not just single exit point 2016-03-21T06:00:05 < jadew> but once you start using continue, break, early return, etc you can't go and blame this use of goto 2016-03-21T06:00:05 < emeb_mac> it's good for setup / teardown too 2016-03-21T06:00:07 < ohsix> the reasons people say not to use goto basically don't exist anymore 2016-03-21T06:00:18 < emeb_mac> yeah 2016-03-21T06:00:20 < jadew> ah 2016-03-21T06:00:26 < jadew> sorry, I misread 2016-03-21T06:00:31 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb: you use UKHASnet? 2016-03-21T06:00:38 < jadew> yeah, the reason doesn't exist anymore 2016-03-21T06:00:46 < ohsix> they'd teach goto and people would just put goto foo: all over instead of using other structures 2016-03-21T06:01:24 < Laurenceb_> emeb_mac: lol no 2016-03-21T06:01:34 < jadew> ohsix, most likely 2016-03-21T06:01:35 < Laurenceb_> it seems like massive perman00b 2016-03-21T06:01:40 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: heh 2016-03-21T06:01:44 < Laurenceb_> although maybe it has been improved 2016-03-21T06:01:52 < Laurenceb_> but I still dont see the point 2016-03-21T06:01:57 < ohsix> i'd just move teaching goto to be part or shortly after switch() case: olol 2016-03-21T06:02:05 < ohsix> also CS is different 2016-03-21T06:02:07 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: given that they have examples for arduino and stm8, yeah 2016-03-21T06:02:22 < Laurenceb_> if they really want to do packet from balloon to balloon it'd need massive work on the physical layer 2016-03-21T06:02:26 < ohsix> people don't necessarily learn how the machines work or any assembly language that might get people into a goto framing 2016-03-21T06:03:34 < ohsix> In their quasi-standard book on the C programming language, Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan warn that goto is "infinitely abusable", but also suggest that it could be used for end-of-function error handlers and for multi-level breaks from loops.[10] 2016-03-21T06:03:35 < ohsix> heheh 2016-03-21T06:04:16 < jadew> ohsix, yeah, that's how I used to use it when I was writing C 2016-03-21T06:04:26 < jadew> for error handling & cleanup 2016-03-21T06:04:38 < ohsix> gcc has custom scope exit things now, so that is kind of arguable 2016-03-21T06:04:54 < jadew> I don't know if gcc was around back then 2016-03-21T06:05:09 < jadew> if it was, it wans't on my OS 2016-03-21T06:05:19 < jadew> DOS 2016-03-21T06:05:23 < ohsix> well, it wouldn't be relevant if it was, and __attribute__((cleanup)) is only recently in wide-ish use 2016-03-21T06:06:25 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/cYBJhqS 2016-03-21T06:07:24 < jadew> she looks like she'd be capable of that 2016-03-21T06:07:48 < ohsix> christ, hooking up gigabutt was totally useless, gvfs-smb only writes 1MB/s 2016-03-21T06:08:53 < jadew> heh 2016-03-21T06:09:06 < jadew> today I'm getting gigabit internet \o/ 2016-03-21T06:09:27 < jadew> my e-dick will grow by an order of magnitude 2016-03-21T06:10:07 < jadew> I'll post the link with its size when that happens 2016-03-21T06:12:48 < dongs> time to burn my anniemay collection 2016-03-21T06:12:50 < dongs> "Animation Software Used by Studio Ghibli to Be Released as Open Source, Developer Says" 2016-03-21T06:13:50 < dongs> < ohsix> gcc has custom scope exit things now, so that is kind of arguable 2016-03-21T06:13:51 < dongs> waht 2016-03-21T06:13:57 < dongs> atexit or wahtever exzxited for a while 2016-03-21T06:14:18 < jadew> dongs, isn't that for the global scope? 2016-03-21T06:14:22 < dongs> shrugging 2016-03-21T06:14:24 < dongs> i dont use gcc 2016-03-21T06:14:35 < Laurenceb_> emeb_mac: ukhas net is not used for the tracker 2016-03-21T06:14:41 < Laurenceb_> that tells you all you need to know 2016-03-21T06:15:00 < Laurenceb_> tracker uses fldigi plug in and an aprs gateway 2016-03-21T06:15:27 < ohsix> looks like windows is doing this 2016-03-21T06:15:50 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: yep - still not ready for primetime 2016-03-21T06:16:20 < ohsix> dongs: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Common-Variable-Attributes.html#index-g_t_0040code_007bcleanup_007d-variable-attribute-3483 2016-03-21T06:27:15 < ohsix> heh hm 2016-03-21T06:27:23 < ohsix> read speeds from windows are great, but not writes 2016-03-21T06:27:35 < ohsix> sure would like to write at 50MB/s too 2016-03-21T06:31:37 < ohsix> wtf, something disabled write caching; all better 2016-03-21T06:32:26 < jadew> heh 2016-03-21T06:41:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T06:43:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T06:43:58 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T06:44:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T06:45:54 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T06:46:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-21T06:46:49 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T06:48:37 < dongs> https://www.scambook.com/search/reports/p/ 2016-03-21T06:49:31 < ohsix> k it wasn't the write caching, it only worked well for a few minutes 2016-03-21T06:49:42 < ohsix> gg something auto tuning 2016-03-21T06:50:14 < jadew> Jim omg? 2016-03-21T06:51:05 < ohsix> looks legit 2016-03-21T06:56:23 < ohsix> how are you supposed to get visibility into this stuff on windows 2016-03-21T06:57:48 < jadew> ohsix, into the network issue? 2016-03-21T06:58:23 < jadew> you can look at the event viewer for errors, if you don't find anything there, wireshark 2016-03-21T06:58:23 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T06:59:34 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T07:07:19 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T07:07:35 < ohsix> just performance numbers, find out what is limiting it 2016-03-21T07:08:14 < ohsix> the internet just has a random list of shit to enable or disable to fix it, like nobody actually figured out what it is 2016-03-21T07:09:06 < jadew> well, event viewer and then wireshark, but you'll need to a good example too 2016-03-21T07:09:10 < jadew> so you can compare 2016-03-21T07:09:49 < jadew> is it possible that samba is using a different/older protocol? 2016-03-21T07:10:11 < jadew> one that windows supports for legacy reasons? 2016-03-21T07:10:29 < ohsix> that wouldn't explain why i got 50MB/s shortly after i reenabled the write cache 2016-03-21T07:10:46 < ohsix> it's going to be something self adjusting that got reset by whatever that ended up doing 2016-03-21T07:11:37 < jadew> it's doing it again? 2016-03-21T07:11:46 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-21T07:11:52 < jadew> it's your disk 2016-03-21T07:12:17 < jadew> if you stop for a while (with cache enabled) and then start again 2016-03-21T07:12:28 < ohsix> it's not, io from the host is completely the same no matter what the network is doing 2016-03-21T07:12:37 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-21T07:12:44 < jadew> but if the cache is getting filled 2016-03-21T07:12:53 < jadew> it will end up waiting for the disk again 2016-03-21T07:13:11 < ohsix> ic what you're saying, not the disk cache, but the 'disk cache' 2016-03-21T07:13:24 < ohsix> but the speed on the host isn't changing 2016-03-21T07:13:50 < ohsix> i know samba does some weird stuff behind the scenes and has its own heap and stuff but i already embiggened that ages ago when connections were outright failing 2016-03-21T07:14:52 < ohsix> just seems dumb there aren't tools to administrate this stuff and rule things out 2016-03-21T07:15:05 < jadew> you can check the performance monitor 2016-03-21T07:15:13 < ohsix> i've been watching it the whole time 2016-03-21T07:15:24 < jadew> also you can enable kernel times in the task manager 2016-03-21T07:15:25 < ohsix> short of adding smb specific counters that don't look like they'll be directly relevant 2016-03-21T07:15:33 < jadew> and see how long the wait times are 2016-03-21T07:15:55 < jadew> if the CPU spends a lot of time on the hardware... it's proably the hardware 2016-03-21T07:16:10 < jadew> would be interesting to check the wait times on the linux machine too 2016-03-21T07:16:35 < ohsix> yea pretty much just looking for samba visibility though, i've tried across several drives and both directions and stuff 2016-03-21T07:17:28 < ohsix> fair enough if it doesn't exist 2016-03-21T07:17:40 < jadew> wait, it's not visible anymore now? 2016-03-21T07:18:07 < ohsix> no, the problem is visible, i'm trying to find a tool that is for administering samba that will give me information about performance qualifications 2016-03-21T07:18:31 < ohsix> rather than a/b every random thing people have said has helped on the internet 2016-03-21T07:18:55 < ohsix> across other protocols it's fine 2016-03-21T07:19:02 < jadew> well, did you check the kernel times? 2016-03-21T07:19:10 < jadew> the writing happens on the windows machine, right? 2016-03-21T07:19:22 < ohsix> yes 2016-03-21T07:19:48 < jadew> so check the kernel times from the task manager and if they're high, it means the bottleneck is with the hardware (most likely the drive) 2016-03-21T07:19:50 < ohsix> response times for the volumes i've tested with are low 2016-03-21T07:20:02 < jadew> if they're not high, then it's something else 2016-03-21T07:20:54 < jadew> at least you'd know in which direction to look 2016-03-21T07:21:00 < ohsix> it's working at the moment, will let it go until it breaks again 2016-03-21T07:21:21 < ohsix> another thing is i don't want to do a bunch of stupid shit that i'll have to keep a list of and undo 2016-03-21T07:21:30 < jadew> I know 2016-03-21T07:22:02 < ohsix> haha waaat 2016-03-21T07:22:11 < jadew> what happened? 2016-03-21T07:22:18 < ohsix> sec verifying 2016-03-21T07:22:37 < ohsix> if youtube is playing it is slow 2016-03-21T07:22:39 < ohsix> recovers quick 2016-03-21T07:22:54 < ohsix> now i don't think the receive side scaling thing is 'random' 2016-03-21T07:23:15 < ohsix> it's adjusting for the GBP of youtube, rtt*whatever; and the lan is eating shit cuz it's so fast/close 2016-03-21T07:24:08 < jadew> is it writing to the same drive? 2016-03-21T07:24:08 < ohsix> it sure makes youtub as fast as it can be tho 2016-03-21T07:24:11 < ohsix> nope 2016-03-21T07:24:20 < jadew> interesting 2016-03-21T07:24:34 < jadew> so... not an issue then? 2016-03-21T07:24:45 < jadew> what windows version? 2016-03-21T07:24:59 < jadew> if it's actually a feature you can probably turn it off 2016-03-21T07:26:38 < ohsix> k 2016-03-21T07:26:43 < ohsix> it was receive side scaling 2016-03-21T07:27:02 < ohsix> the internet has a larger effect than i like on network traffic, but it's much better 2016-03-21T07:27:13 < ohsix> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled 2016-03-21T07:27:54 < ohsix> AND the disk cache stuff was a red herring 2016-03-21T07:27:59 < ohsix> i just happened to pause youtube for something else 2016-03-21T07:28:01 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-21T07:28:29 < ohsix> actually the diff with youtube or not now could be down to crappy switch, looks good 2016-03-21T07:29:17 < ohsix> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff556942(v=vs.85).aspx it doesn't seem like this should mess with anything like that D: 2016-03-21T07:31:49 < ohsix> hm there are a bunch of default probes that use wmi in the performance monitor 2016-03-21T07:33:50 < dongs> hey autism6, what does this have to do with stm32? 2016-03-21T07:34:00 < ohsix> performance -> reports -> system is pretty cool; i kn ew about some of this stuff but never remember to look at it 2016-03-21T07:34:07 < ohsix> there's a list of files causing most disk ios in there 2016-03-21T07:34:37 < ohsix> i'm not around people who use windows, sorry; just thought someone might know 2016-03-21T07:34:56 < ohsix> and someone replied so i just followed up while i dicked with it 2016-03-21T07:35:26 < ohsix> dongs: gigabutt usb2 adapter is def worth it if you only have 100 2016-03-21T07:36:09 < ohsix> get 9MB/s ish or something over 100mb, 50MB/s over 1000mb, usb2 will probably do 22MB/s 2016-03-21T07:39:08 < ohsix> winders is apparentlly checking smart status via wmi all the time by default now 2016-03-21T07:39:24 < ohsix> you can add another data collector for different parameters 2016-03-21T07:41:24 < Lemming> https://goo.gl/photos/3Q8VZiR3RnwTKqDK7 <--- tehehe 2016-03-21T07:43:25 < jadew> I'm off to bed, night 2016-03-21T07:43:30 < ohsix> cya, thanks 2016-03-21T07:44:19 < ohsix> yeaaa word now it's going gr8, everything is going fast enough over the network t hat the things that should be using lots of cpu are 2016-03-21T07:47:12 < ohsix> nngh linux needs something like wmi; this is the first ti'me i've noticed how much they use it for local stuff, but it's all accessible over the network/on the domain, you could know about health and disk status and stuff all over your operation 2016-03-21T08:02:03 < ohsix> ic 2016-03-21T08:03:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-21T08:09:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.51] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:12:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:18:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-21T08:29:23 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/ki69Mms 2016-03-21T08:29:55 < aandrew> is there a better way to do that? trying to light an LED from a signal going low where that signal's high voltage might be as low as 1.5V 2016-03-21T08:31:22 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:31:45 < jpa-> aandrew: do you have to worry about power consumption? 2016-03-21T08:31:47 < ohsix> is the voltage relevant? 2016-03-21T08:31:52 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:32:10 < ohsix> that's how you'd do it but i dunno why you'd need to pull down 3v3 and vbus to do it 2016-03-21T08:32:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:32:27 < jpa-> if power consumption does not matter, you can put: V+ - (resistor) - (led) - ground and then put the transistor in parallel with the led 2016-03-21T08:32:46 < aandrew> jpa-: not really; if VBUS isn't there then I only ever see 330uA across the 10k pullup 2016-03-21T08:33:04 < aandrew> ohsix: only that if it was a high enough voltage I could get away without needing the second fet 2016-03-21T08:33:29 < aandrew> jpa-: ah, yes that'd work (short out the LED) 2016-03-21T08:33:32 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-21T08:34:10 < jpa-> and if it is difficult to find FET with low enough Vgs_th, you can always use some NPN transistor 2016-03-21T08:34:33 < aandrew> nah the Vgs isn't a problem at all 2016-03-21T08:34:38 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-21T08:34:49 < aandrew> first version of this just used a p-chan and the LEDs woudl never go out because the fet was never off :-) 2016-03-21T08:42:51 < ohsix> hur after all that setup, other computer is roughly twice as fast 2016-03-21T08:43:54 < ohsix> need to massively automate this crap and stop f'in around 2016-03-21T08:44:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4eebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:56:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.51] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T08:56:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.51] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T08:59:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4eebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:18:36 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:19:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-21T09:20:52 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T09:33:30 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T09:36:18 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:39:27 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:41:50 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T09:44:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:47:37 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:49:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T09:52:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T10:00:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T10:12:35 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-132.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T10:25:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-21T10:27:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-21T10:28:32 < Steffanx> One pumps there too? 2016-03-21T10:50:25 < PeterM> i sent about 20 pumps to the graveyard over the weekend, price of copper isn't worth takign htem to a recycler. 2016-03-21T10:50:46 < zyp> so what's all this pumping you're talking about? 2016-03-21T10:52:05 < PeterM> i have no idea what he means, i can only assume it is something sexual in nature 2016-03-21T10:57:11 < dongs> pumping = retarded trolling without a pause 2016-03-21T10:58:11 < PeterM> is the meaning of trolling in that sentence like real trolling, or more "blogging" 2016-03-21T11:08:25 -!- Chris_M|2 is now known as Chris_M 2016-03-21T11:12:46 < dongs> so fucking pissed today, time to check out free lancer 2016-03-21T11:12:59 < zyp> haha 2016-03-21T11:13:23 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/product-development-design/ 2016-03-21T11:13:27 < dongs> dickstarter in reverse 2016-03-21T11:14:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Project-for-Digital-CMOS-VLSI/ 2016-03-21T11:14:06 < dongs> ok 2016-03-21T11:14:42 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Mobile-Phone/Expert-Kernel-mobile-programming/ god damn when will this fuckerface give up 2016-03-21T11:14:58 < dongs> i saw his CAPACITATIVE FARED KERNEL shit for like 3 weeks straight 2016-03-21T11:15:15 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/expert-needed-for-advice-tuning/ oh look proj4zyp 2016-03-21T11:15:40 < dongs> you even have a VNA 2016-03-21T11:15:52 < zyp> haha, true 2016-03-21T11:16:00 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Finish-developing-innovated-cannabis/ 2016-03-21T11:16:03 < dongs> loool 2016-03-21T11:16:06 < dongs> > innovated cannabis product 2016-03-21T11:17:55 < PeterM> more like innervated cannabis project 2016-03-21T11:18:09 < dongs> all cannabis projcs to peterm 2016-03-21T11:19:05 < dongs> made footprint for that ISL part 2016-03-21T11:19:11 < dongs> thats how much I got done today. 2016-03-21T11:19:19 < dongs> between yelling at chinks over hte phone 2016-03-21T11:19:22 < dongs> and assburgering 2016-03-21T11:25:16 < dongs> this fuckface supplier is like "yes we had shit ready on march 4th." so shit gets paid. they dont even bother checking that they were paid until i fucking bump their email like 5 times. "oh, yes we got paid, we will prepare asap" (waht happen to it being prepared on 4th, cunts. this morning they shit out "we sent it by EMS because by DHL it was too expensive and EMS is same speed anyway". 2016-03-21T11:25:41 < dongs> never mind that they were paid for DHL and not for "arrive a month later" shit 2016-03-21T11:25:44 < dongs> fucking kikes 2016-03-21T11:26:17 < zyp> haha 2016-03-21T11:26:19 < dongs> except i have DHL delivered in 24 hours from pickup to arriving 2016-03-21T11:26:27 < dongs> and faggot china EMS hasnt even fucking left china yet (duh) 2016-03-21T11:26:37 < zyp> I get pissed off when they do the opposite 2016-03-21T11:26:44 < zyp> because I hate dealing with DHL fuckups 2016-03-21T11:27:24 < zyp> I think I specified fedex when I bought ebike shit 2016-03-21T11:27:48 < dongs> and then another cunt shipped shit last week (also like a week late despite "being ready" and begging to get paid non-stop until getting paid, then went into silence for a week) 2016-03-21T11:27:58 < dongs> so it fucking arrives to customer 2016-03-21T11:28:00 < dongs> half the shit is missing 2016-03-21T11:28:06 < dongs> "OH SORRY MY WORKER FORGOT IT IN THE WAREHOUSE" 2016-03-21T11:28:12 < zyp> they spent over a week assembling the fucking battery, and shipped it with DHL 2016-03-21T11:28:57 < dongs> dumb fucking chinks, chinagirl is like the only chink who actually gets shit done properly 2016-03-21T11:29:01 < dongs> the rest are slimy lying fucks 2016-03-21T11:29:17 < dongs> with *ALWAYS* excuses 2016-03-21T11:32:31 < PeterM> yes, i have one too, except mine has a penis and has more questionable packaging methods 2016-03-21T11:33:30 < dongs> i have one wiht a penis too, hes also a slimy fuck 2016-03-21T11:33:36 < dongs> overcharges on shipping and shit 2016-03-21T11:33:47 < dongs> BUT i can order him to go to HK and pick shit up for me from time to time so its okay 2016-03-21T11:34:11 < dongs> but stopped using him for regular shit cuz he started checking digikey and just trying to sell me shit @ 100 qty prices 2016-03-21T11:34:49 < zyp> haha 2016-03-21T11:34:54 < PeterM> lol 2016-03-21T11:36:25 < PeterM> mine isn't bad, prices are good, but bascially only does components, nothing mechanical (swithces, battery holders, cases, etc) 2016-03-21T11:38:56 < PeterM> dongs i dunno if oyur china girl does this but does she suggest parts others are using that are equivilent spec but are cheaper in .cn? 2016-03-21T11:39:09 < dongs> only if I push around 2016-03-21T11:40:19 < dongs> i think some people at hteir office know possible substitutes but a lot of my shit is just specific so it cant be replaced 2016-03-21T11:40:29 < dongs> but like few days ago I got suggested some cehapass spi eeprom 2016-03-21T11:40:31 < dongs> from AMAZINGTECH 2016-03-21T11:40:36 < dongs> instead of yanno some winbond or other legit shit 2016-03-21T11:41:38 < PeterM> or likethe only thing atmel can make decently 2016-03-21T11:46:29 < dongs> now NXP will make sure they don't do that, either 2016-03-21T11:46:36 < dongs> so eh 2016-03-21T11:46:42 < dongs> that MODE pin is buried in 0.4mm ballz 2016-03-21T11:46:48 < dongs> im just gonna stick it to ground for FORCED PWM operation 2016-03-21T11:46:51 < dongs> amirite? haha 2016-03-21T11:47:11 < PeterM> pretty much 2016-03-21T11:48:01 < PeterM> but it is only one ball deep so you can still route it out 2016-03-21T11:48:59 < PeterM> iirc it offers more efficiency but output is noisier af 2016-03-21T11:49:24 < dongs> PFM mdoe y ou mean? 2016-03-21T11:49:33 < PeterM> yer 2016-03-21T11:49:53 < PeterM> you probably dont care about it in your baggins though 2016-03-21T11:50:00 < dongs> nope 2016-03-21T11:50:07 < dongs> vapers dont give a fuck 2016-03-21T11:50:10 < dongs> or dildo users 2016-03-21T11:50:11 < dongs> i mean 2016-03-21T11:50:19 -!- Abhishek__ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yguspqpohvflveus] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T11:51:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T11:54:46 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-21T12:00:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T12:12:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-21T12:13:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T12:29:13 < dongs> go pump off 2016-03-21T12:30:09 < dongs> wasting time 2016-03-21T12:31:45 < PeterM> dongs /www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_z8wuue4rQ 2016-03-21T12:31:57 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_z8wuue4rQ 2016-03-21T12:32:03 < PeterM> minus the leading slash 2016-03-21T12:34:52 < PeterM> nah 2016-03-21T12:39:33 < dongs> fuck 2016-03-21T12:39:39 < dongs> ever tried to g et a bugger off a lCD panel? 2016-03-21T12:39:56 < dongs> it just keeps fucking rolling around 2016-03-21T12:39:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T12:39:59 < dongs> and i cant grab it 2016-03-21T12:52:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T13:21:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-21T13:22:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T13:24:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T13:25:42 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T13:28:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.241] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T13:57:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T14:01:20 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-132.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T14:02:34 < ColdKeyboard> STM32 usb cusom hid example has tons of custom descriptors for LEDs and buttons. But the maximum report size seems to be limited to 2 bytes. How do I increase the limit? 2016-03-21T14:02:54 < ColdKeyboard> Add new descriptor, change existing or something else? 2016-03-21T14:04:39 < zyp> report size is only limited by endpoint size 2016-03-21T14:05:04 < zyp> and endpoint size is limited to max 64 bytes on FS USB 2016-03-21T14:06:50 < ColdKeyboard> http://pastie.org/10768549 2016-03-21T14:06:59 < ColdKeyboard> This is the custom report that I have 2016-03-21T14:07:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.114] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T14:08:14 < zyp> ah, output reports are sent over the control endpoint, so those aren't even limited by endpoint size 2016-03-21T14:08:33 < zyp> well, at least if you don't make a dedicated out endpoint for it 2016-03-21T14:09:08 < ColdKeyboard> Since I can only send 2 bytes, when I send 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 the device recieves data. But when I try to send 0x05 it's like the command is dropped 2016-03-21T14:09:41 < ColdKeyboard> Now I would like to increase the report size to 14bytes, so the first bytes is always 0x00 and then the rest is data that I will use 2016-03-21T14:09:57 < ColdKeyboard> But since I'm noob when it comes to USB, I have no clue what should I change :\ 2016-03-21T14:10:21 < ColdKeyboard> http://pastie.org/10768552 2016-03-21T14:10:57 < zyp> uh, report 5 is pretty messed up 2016-03-21T14:11:06 < ColdKeyboard> This is the custom HID configuration descriptor. I changed changing HID_OUT_PACKET, /* wMaxPacketSize: 2 Bytes max */ to values like 0x0D or something like that but it doesn't work :\ 2016-03-21T14:11:07 < zyp> you're mixing output and feature elements 2016-03-21T14:11:50 < zyp> ah, HID_OUT_PACKET is indeed what you have to change 2016-03-21T14:12:33 < ColdKeyboard> I changed that value to 10, 15, 16 but after compiling, the software doesn't see the device anymore. It's connected but I can't communicate with it :\ 2016-03-21T14:12:35 < zyp> and remember to make sure that the hardware endpoint config matches the descriptor 2016-03-21T14:12:56 < dongs> zyp,m what do you think of http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/MFRC522.pdf 2016-03-21T14:13:00 < dongs> is it y/n/mare vs that ST part? 2016-03-21T14:13:09 < dongs> or is it shit cuz its only mifare or whatever 2016-03-21T14:13:15 < zyp> for what purpose? 2016-03-21T14:13:21 < dongs> rfid purpose 2016-03-21T14:13:24 < ColdKeyboard> Mmmmm, I guess I have to find that too 2016-03-21T14:13:55 < zyp> that thing apparently does 14443A only, so it's useless if you need to do anything else 2016-03-21T14:14:36 < zyp> but most shit is 14443A 2016-03-21T14:15:21 < ColdKeyboard> zyp I changed HID_OUT_PACKET to 0x0F, /* wMaxPacketSize: 15 Bytes max */ 2016-03-21T14:15:42 < ColdKeyboard> Where do I find hardware endpoint? And is there just one or many? 2016-03-21T14:15:58 < zyp> idk, I don't know ST USB stack 2016-03-21T14:16:39 < ColdKeyboard> I don't mean literally where but a hint to what I'm looking for? :) 2016-03-21T14:18:19 < zyp> for all i know, it might be read from that descriptor, so there might not even be a second point to set it 2016-03-21T14:19:46 < ColdKeyboard> "An unknown item was found in the report descriptor." 2016-03-21T14:19:49 < ColdKeyboard> Dammit :( 2016-03-21T14:20:41 < ColdKeyboard> Ah well, I'll go bang my head aginst the wall a bit more. Then start reading USB in a nutshell... 2016-03-21T14:20:46 < ColdKeyboard> Thank you very much zyp! 2016-03-21T14:20:48 < zyp> dongs, looks like it does mifare classic as well 2016-03-21T14:21:00 < zyp> that's probably the only advantage it got 2016-03-21T14:21:08 < zyp> apart from price, I guess 2016-03-21T14:21:26 < dongs> ok. iduno what they wanna use the shit for 2016-03-21T14:21:33 < zyp> ColdKeyboard, yes, I told you your hid descriptor was messed up 2016-03-21T14:21:35 < dongs> its for that lcd panel thing wiht rfid antenna around it 2016-03-21T14:21:51 < zyp> ah 2016-03-21T14:22:10 < zyp> I think ST95HF does pretty much everything except mifare classic 2016-03-21T14:22:36 < zyp> because mifare classic uses some retarded lowlevel crypto shit that needs lowlevel hardware support 2016-03-21T14:23:03 < ColdKeyboard> dongs I've used that chip on one of the dev board I got. It worked fine for me with the mifare cards I got. Altough I didn't use it for very long. 2016-03-21T14:23:04 -!- Teeed [~teeed@na1noc.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T14:23:15 < ColdKeyboard> crt You need it or you have some better suggestion? :) 2016-03-21T14:25:22 < ColdKeyboard> Try looking at http://bookzz.org/ :) 2016-03-21T14:26:41 < ColdKeyboard> Btw is there an easy way to calculate the array lenght than counting byte-by-byte in IDE? 2016-03-21T14:26:58 < zyp> sizeof(array)? :) 2016-03-21T14:27:10 < ColdKeyboard> I need to define how long is my descriptor in bytes. And since I changed it, a lot I would need to recount it :\ 2016-03-21T14:27:31 < zyp> yeah, use sizeof() 2016-03-21T14:27:31 < lorenzo> count the commas 2016-03-21T14:27:32 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-21T14:27:52 < dongs> use C++11 and zyp's templates 2016-03-21T14:27:57 < Thorn> count hex digits, divide by 2 2016-03-21T14:28:04 < dongs> he did some crazy shit where hje just writes "OMG USB" and it just works. 2016-03-21T14:28:28 < zyp> I still need to use sizeof :p 2016-03-21T14:28:33 < dongs> oh? 2016-03-21T14:28:36 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/main.cpp#n174 <- there 2016-03-21T14:28:58 < dongs> ea the shite above 2016-03-21T14:28:59 < dongs> 164+ 2016-03-21T14:29:00 < zyp> desc_t is some simple size + void pointer struct 2016-03-21T14:29:10 < dongs> thats th e magic shit 2016-03-21T14:29:27 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-21T14:29:55 < zyp> it's a lot more readable (and editable) than a messy byte-array 2016-03-21T14:30:01 < dongs> .. 2016-03-21T14:30:05 < dongs> is that entire code for arcin 2016-03-21T14:30:34 < zyp> for stable branch, yes, excluding bootloader 2016-03-21T14:30:59 < zyp> got this other branch with configuration shit and a bunch of optional features 2016-03-21T14:32:08 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/arcin?h=conf <- this shit 2016-03-21T14:33:03 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-21T14:33:15 < dongs> oh, leds. 2016-03-21T14:35:18 < zyp> crt, HID IO adapter 2016-03-21T14:36:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-132.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T14:39:29 < zyp> I made it to solve a need 2016-03-21T14:39:47 < zyp> and then I figured other people had the same need, so now I've sold half a thousand of those 2016-03-21T14:40:55 < zyp> hmm, I've lost count of whether the last batch were the sixth or seventh 2016-03-21T14:47:07 < zyp> hmm, seventh if I'm counting right 2016-03-21T14:47:44 < zyp> crt, home use, mostly 2016-03-21T14:49:13 < zyp> http://imgur.com/a/bDY6k <- like this shit, that's a friend of mine 2016-03-21T14:52:12 < zyp> there's arcin boards in all the button controllers there, except the x-arcade thing 2016-03-21T14:53:23 < dongs> over 9000 NOKs 2016-03-21T14:53:38 < zyp> I sell them for $50/ea shipped 2016-03-21T14:54:14 < dongs> haha, i have burnin on the 0.96" oled 2016-03-21T14:54:27 < dongs> those bi-color shits 2016-03-21T14:54:42 < zyp> that covers production, fees, bad yield, shipping and everything with enough left over to make it worth my time 2016-03-21T14:54:43 < dongs> i had left one running for weeks displaying ~same shit and now im showing something else on it and i can see dark outline of previous shit 2016-03-21T14:54:47 < zyp> dongs, haha 2016-03-21T14:55:57 < zyp> I should make sure that won't happen with the shit I'll be making 2016-03-21T14:56:17 < dongs> indeed, if thats the shit you plan on using 2016-03-21T14:56:21 < dongs> oled sux: confirmed 2016-03-21T14:56:27 < zyp> I was thinking about doing RGB 2016-03-21T14:56:38 < dongs> just do one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/200971182733 2016-03-21T14:56:39 < zyp> but I guess it'll have the same issues 2016-03-21T14:56:44 < dongs> rgb what? 2016-03-21T14:56:49 < dongs> oh, you mean color oled 2016-03-21T14:57:07 < zyp> yes 2016-03-21T14:57:14 < zyp> that ssd1331 thing 2016-03-21T14:57:22 < zyp> I bought the waveshare board 2016-03-21T14:57:27 < zyp> to dick around with 2016-03-21T14:58:00 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/f/nTVo8.JPG 2016-03-21T14:58:14 < mitrax> dongs: have you tried those? 2016-03-21T14:58:19 < zyp> also 0.96" 2016-03-21T14:58:34 < dongs> mitrax: the round thing? no but its just a round tft 2016-03-21T14:58:34 < jpa-> will we have zypGFX soon? 2016-03-21T14:58:43 < dongs> c++11gfx 2016-03-21T14:58:49 < zyp> haha 2016-03-21T14:59:11 < zyp> I'll probably make some simple display list API for that 2016-03-21T15:00:06 < jpa-> please do :) 2016-03-21T15:00:12 < zyp> I talked to Tectu about using ugfx, but the only parts of ugfx that would be useful is stuff that I could write from scratch just as fast 2016-03-21T15:00:42 < zyp> the entire widget thing is too heavy, not suited for small screens 2016-03-21T15:00:56 < jpa-> and mostly relevant for touchscreens only anyway 2016-03-21T15:01:07 < zyp> that too 2016-03-21T15:01:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T15:02:41 < jpa-> but how will you render blurry antialised æ 2016-03-21T15:02:59 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T15:03:22 < zyp> I was thinking about a hierarchical structure of components, so that when something needs to be redrawn, I only need to redraw the stuff under that point 2016-03-21T15:04:32 < jpa-> makes sense 2016-03-21T15:04:55 < jpa-> https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/dso-quad-logic/tree/master/gui "quick, everyone show your displaylist renderers" 2016-03-21T15:05:06 < zyp> then again, the display is small and fast, and I'm not going to be doing any fancy animations 2016-03-21T15:05:27 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-154-148.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T15:05:42 < zyp> so redrawing everything is okay too 2016-03-21T15:05:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-154-148.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-21T15:07:19 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T15:07:25 < zyp> ah, you're doing line drawing 2016-03-21T15:07:52 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sk0SMg1PI retweet 2016-03-21T15:07:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T15:08:25 < zyp> useful when your display needs the data in sequential order and you don't have enough memory for a framebuffer 2016-03-21T15:08:34 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T15:10:06 < zyp> but I'm not going to care about that, ssd1331 can do windowed writes, so I'm just gonna build on draw_rect() or whatever 2016-03-21T15:10:22 < zyp> that's how my text printing works 2016-03-21T15:11:49 < mitrax> i have yet to find a name for my shit that doesn't end with "gfx" 2016-03-21T15:12:00 < dongs> dongs 2016-03-21T15:12:38 < mitrax> ahah 2016-03-21T15:13:56 < dongs> found kikemir's pastime 2016-03-21T15:13:56 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/KpjGT 2016-03-21T15:15:04 < dongs> in finland, yes. 2016-03-21T15:15:09 < jpa-> zyp: the display there can do windowed writes also, but doing it line-by-line lets me avoid tearing & flicker 2016-03-21T15:15:12 < dongs> fucking weebs 2016-03-21T15:15:32 < dongs> jpa, tell me more. how does that "help" 2016-03-21T15:17:54 < zyp> I'd probably use a framebuffer if I cared about that 2016-03-21T15:17:58 < jpa-> dongs: well, the TFT controller will be refreshing the panel line-by-line; usually one can read out e.g. when it is done refreshing line 1; then you can run "behind it" to draw the next display frame and avoid showing any half updates on the screen 2016-03-21T15:18:02 < zyp> assuming I could fit it :) 2016-03-21T15:18:41 < jpa-> whereas if you just draw random areas to screen then you'll always show some partial updates sometimes 2016-03-21T15:19:08 < jpa-> (which doesn't matter much if you still only draw each area only once; but if you do something like "clear background, draw text" it becomes flickery) 2016-03-21T15:22:00 < dongs> hm. 2016-03-21T15:22:11 < dongs> really you can know when lcd finished updating? 2016-03-21T15:22:34 < zyp> ssd1331 documents some signal for that, but it's not broken out on breakout board 2016-03-21T15:22:37 < dongs> i dont remember seeing somethin like that but I didnt look really 2016-03-21T15:22:38 < dongs> ah 2016-03-21T15:24:02 < zyp> datasheet says that a slow mcu should start writing right after a refresh cycle has started so it'll be running behind it, while a fast mcu should start writing right before a refresh cycle start and run in front of it 2016-03-21T15:30:26 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/STM-microcontroller-based-circuit-design/ 2016-03-21T15:30:30 < dongs> > 407 2016-03-21T15:30:30 < dongs> > small as possible 2016-03-21T15:30:45 < mitrax> geez ST.com is slooow 2016-03-21T15:32:31 < zyp> 407 is available in qfp64, no? 2016-03-21T15:32:40 < zyp> or do you have to do 405 to get that small? 2016-03-21T15:33:05 < Sync> yeah dongs should have used kinetis aids 2016-03-21T15:34:18 < jpa-> zyp: many of those have both signal and a command, and the command can be used to poll vsync even if signal is not connected 2016-03-21T15:35:36 < zyp> the ssd1331 breakout I got can't even read anything 2016-03-21T15:35:40 < dongs> zyp, should be ok in 64qfp 2016-03-21T15:35:52 < dongs> ohh, i guess maybe he could use one of those dumbBGA 0.5mm pitch versions of 407 2016-03-21T15:36:10 < zyp> haha 2016-03-21T15:36:12 < dongs> 10x10... 2016-03-21T15:36:15 < dongs> and no 2016-03-21T15:36:15 < zyp> wlcsp90? 2016-03-21T15:36:21 < dongs> looks like 407 is lqfp100 minimnum 2016-03-21T15:36:26 < zyp> right 2016-03-21T15:36:33 < dongs> there's 176ufbga 2016-03-21T15:36:37 < dongs> but it s10x10 2016-03-21T15:36:48 < dongs> and not even stock 2016-03-21T15:37:09 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T15:37:44 < dongs> 0.65mm pitch for 176 2016-03-21T15:37:52 < dongs> barely routable 2 outer balls 2016-03-21T15:37:57 < dongs> beyond that fuck off 2016-03-21T15:39:30 -!- Abhishek__ is now known as Abhishek_ 2016-03-21T15:42:36 < dongs> could take that proj just for hte lulz for cheap, get accepted, actually make like 6layer bga board with microvias 2016-03-21T15:42:42 < dongs> and then demand paymenet cuz done 2016-03-21T15:42:55 < dongs> then watch that fuck from srilanka try to get it fabbed 2016-03-21T15:43:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T15:44:00 < zyp> I'm modifying some 8L workstuff now 2016-03-21T15:44:18 < zyp> a bit amusing how they've got eight layers, and five of them are mostly/all polygons 2016-03-21T15:44:23 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-21T15:44:26 < dongs> typical 2016-03-21T15:44:44 < dongs> bonus points: do 6L in kikecad 2016-03-21T15:44:48 < dongs> so he cant even change iet later. 2016-03-21T15:45:41 < zyp> there's three routing layers here, plus some DDR3 shit in fourth routing layer that they couldn't fit in the others 2016-03-21T15:46:04 < dongs> chinaddr routing is only 2 layers + pwr 2016-03-21T15:46:22 < dongs> top/bottom only 2016-03-21T15:47:04 < zyp> also three ground planes 2016-03-21T15:47:43 < dongs> my altidong propal told me today he doesnt use grid ever 2016-03-21T15:47:52 < dongs> i zoomed in ona couple of his designs and everything is like randomly offset 2016-03-21T15:47:54 < zyp> haha 2016-03-21T15:48:16 < dongs> might as well just use eagle 2016-03-21T15:48:21 < zyp> not enough OCD 2016-03-21T15:48:27 < dongs> yeah definitely 2016-03-21T15:48:35 < dongs> i spend a shitload of time mkaing all the Rs and stuff aligned 2016-03-21T15:48:53 < zyp> kinda glad I'm not touching the DDR3 part on this board 2016-03-21T15:49:22 < zyp> just redoing everything around the SoC+memory part 2016-03-21T15:49:42 < dongs> wats wrong wiht it? 2016-03-21T15:50:44 < zyp> previous design was a prototype based on a reference design, with board to board connectors for power supply and shit 2016-03-21T15:51:17 < zyp> and now they want me to redesign to fit application form factor 2016-03-21T15:51:30 < zyp> which includes a huge hole in the middle of the board 2016-03-21T15:51:59 < qyx> /win 9 2016-03-21T15:52:06 < qyx> er 2016-03-21T15:52:18 < dongs> alt-9 dude 2016-03-21T15:52:33 < zyp> or esc-9 2016-03-21T15:52:34 < dongs> or esc-9 if youre on some filthy lunix 2016-03-21T15:52:35 < dongs> y 2016-03-21T15:52:53 < zyp> idk, I'm on windows now, still use esc 2016-03-21T15:53:04 < dongs> too many keypresses 2016-03-21T15:53:13 < qyx> tablet, no alt 2016-03-21T15:53:18 < dongs> then esc 2016-03-21T15:53:21 < dongs> also, sorry to hear that 2016-03-21T15:53:34 < qyx> mhm, esc 2016-03-21T15:53:49 < qyx> works 2016-03-21T15:54:05 < dongs> its retarded how unusable microsoft touch keyboard shit is on windows/tablet/wahteer 2016-03-21T15:54:44 < dongs> they aded right click key to every fucking kjeyboard but forgot it in their soft keyboard. 2016-03-21T15:54:56 < dongs> arrow keys = if thery're there, its hidden in some shit that i havent found yet 2016-03-21T15:55:21 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T16:01:41 < dongs> yeah, i'm going to sleepl. 2016-03-21T16:03:02 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-21T16:10:17 * Laurenceb_ needs some GUI advice 2016-03-21T16:10:41 < Laurenceb_> I need some buttons to control which ADS1298 channels are enabled 2016-03-21T16:11:01 < Laurenceb_> the plot lines are colour coded... how do i do the colour coding for the buttons? 2016-03-21T16:14:00 < mitrax> have a small colored circle next to the button label on the left? 2016-03-21T16:15:19 < mitrax> unless you want a gui that looks like a fag flag ... and then color the whole buttons 2016-03-21T16:15:35 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-03-21T16:15:47 < Laurenceb_> I also need to indicate which channels are already enabled 2016-03-21T16:16:28 < mitrax> the buttons could stay pressed, like a toggle thing 2016-03-21T16:17:08 < Laurenceb_> could use checkbox 2016-03-21T16:17:09 < mitrax> depressed / pressed down 2016-03-21T16:17:13 < Laurenceb_> ah yeah 2016-03-21T16:17:27 < Laurenceb_> dunno how obvious that is tho 2016-03-21T16:17:35 < mitrax> pretty obvious imo 2016-03-21T16:17:55 < mitrax> checkboxes will look ugly with a color code of some sort next to them 2016-03-21T16:17:57 < Laurenceb_> heh not for perman00bs 2016-03-21T16:17:59 < zyp> dongs, heard you like FTDIs https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Serial-Cards-Adapters/~ICUSB23216F 2016-03-21T16:18:01 < Laurenceb_> yeah I know 2016-03-21T16:18:08 < Laurenceb_> this sucks :-S 2016-03-21T16:18:12 < dongs> not obvious to mrhands 2016-03-21T16:18:17 < dongs> zyp: nice price 2016-03-21T16:18:29 < dongs> fucking startech more like scamtech 2016-03-21T16:18:32 < dongs> all their shit is always overpriced 2016-03-21T16:18:59 < zyp> it says FT232RL, I wonder if they actually got 16 of those and a 16-port hub 2016-03-21T16:19:06 < mitrax> Laurenceb: well once you click them, if they stay pressed it's self explanatory i think, now sure there are some retards but that's pretty common in many GUI, e.g every text processor with bold / italic / underlined buttons 2016-03-21T16:19:13 < dongs> zyp: yes, but not 16 port hub 2016-03-21T16:19:21 < dongs> more like 3 7-port 2016-03-21T16:19:26 < Laurenceb_> ooh I know 2016-03-21T16:19:31 < zyp> well, sure 2016-03-21T16:19:34 < Laurenceb_> button with drop down menu and ticks 2016-03-21T16:19:35 < dongs> pretty sure > 7 port doesnt exist 2016-03-21T16:19:41 < Laurenceb_> that would be pretty and usable 2016-03-21T16:21:05 < mitrax> Laurenceb: depends how many channels you have, a drop down if you have many buttons, but the drawback is tyou don't see which channel are activated without clicking there (well you do by looking at the graph but then you don't have the channel => color mapping always visible) 2016-03-21T16:21:12 < mitrax> err many buttons/ many channels 2016-03-21T16:21:34 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats a point.. 2016-03-21T16:21:38 < Laurenceb_> theres 8 channel 2016-03-21T16:22:53 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: i'd have the buttons always visible then, then you don't need a legend on your graph, plus they can be small just oCHAN1 / oCHAN2 / etc. 2016-03-21T16:23:18 < Laurenceb_> yeah I guess 2016-03-21T16:23:30 < Laurenceb_> I'll have to see if i can make it look pretty 2016-03-21T16:23:50 < mitrax> Laurenceb: with a dropdown it won't be immediately obvious as to how you enable / disable them 2016-03-21T16:23:54 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-21T16:24:12 < Laurenceb_> I guess as everything is enabled by default it should be more explanatory 2016-03-21T16:27:39 -!- Teeed [~teeed@na1noc.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T16:28:15 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/QRhrkN.png 2016-03-21T16:28:27 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-03-21T16:30:19 < dongs> FedEx International Priority $0.00 2016-03-21T16:30:19 < dongs> UPS Worldwide Express Saver $50.00 2016-03-21T16:30:20 < dongs> DHL International Express $0.00 2016-03-21T16:30:23 < dongs> nice new choice on mouser 2016-03-21T16:31:34 < dongs> ordered. 2016-03-21T16:31:36 < dongs> yay. 2016-03-21T16:32:15 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T16:34:34 < kakimir> what have you done dongs? 2016-03-21T16:53:10 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T16:57:05 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T17:19:37 < Lux> any ideas how i can view an orcad pcb file with some free tools? 2016-03-21T17:19:42 < Lux> or in altium 2016-03-21T17:22:08 < zyp> orcad doesn't have a free viewer? 2016-03-21T17:25:26 < kakimir> https://sourceforge.net/projects/edif2kicad/ 2016-03-21T17:25:38 < kakimir> google: orcad to kicad 2016-03-21T17:30:23 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T17:32:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.75] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T17:35:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T17:38:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T17:44:13 < kakimir> can you contact persons in github? 2016-03-21T17:44:44 < kakimir> if you register account 2016-03-21T17:45:09 < jpa-> you can make issues / pull reqs on projects, and see if the user has public email address visible 2016-03-21T17:46:06 < kakimir> what is the pull request? 2016-03-21T17:46:18 < lorenzo> kakimir: clone the repo and look for email in commit log 2016-03-21T17:46:39 < jpa-> (though git commit addresses get such a lot of spam that it might not be going through) 2016-03-21T17:51:32 < PaulFertser> kakimir: btw, github "pull request" is not the same as "pull request" as described by the official Git docs, beware. 2016-03-21T17:53:35 < kakimir> I don't know what pull request is 2016-03-21T17:55:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.169] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T17:57:13 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-21T18:08:24 < rewolff> Pull request is "git talk" for "dear maintainer, I've got a patch you might want to include in your source" 2016-03-21T18:09:17 < kakimir> hah 2016-03-21T18:24:07 < c10ud^> yo 2016-03-21T18:24:17 < c10ud^> do you have chinagirl for 32" touch panels? 2016-03-21T18:24:25 < c10ud^> just panel, no lcd 2016-03-21T18:24:55 < kakimir> dongs is sleepin 2016-03-21T18:25:09 < c10ud^> i see 2016-03-21T18:25:56 < kakimir> he comes back in around 8hours 2016-03-21T18:26:16 < c10ud^> kthx 2016-03-21T18:26:56 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:27:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-132.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T18:28:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:29:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:34:57 -!- sooda [sooda@nac2.kyla.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-21T18:36:22 -!- sooda [sooda@nac2.kyla.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:44:18 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-21T18:49:55 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:50:20 < owl-v-> soon~~ apple keynote!! 2016-03-21T18:52:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:54:37 < mitrax> *yawn* 2016-03-21T18:56:16 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dkbdtfpvghxkmjjr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T18:59:03 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T19:01:14 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T19:06:25 < kakimir> I wonder if there is some programs that would create flow charts out of assembly code 2016-03-21T19:11:02 < Laurenceb_> lul http://nypost.com/2015/08/18/kkk-member-built-death-ray-machine-to-kill-muslims-and-obama-prosecutors-say/ 2016-03-21T19:11:14 < Sync> noice 2016-03-21T19:11:55 < kakimir> such genious 2016-03-21T19:12:30 < kakimir> do secret service has sensors for xrays and radiations? 2016-03-21T19:13:05 < kakimir> I think they have now 2016-03-21T19:14:08 < kakimir> http://www.assemblyflowchart.com/ 2016-03-21T19:14:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T19:15:12 < kakimir> anyone happen to have paid version? 2016-03-21T19:17:50 < kakimir> c8051 assemb,y 2016-03-21T19:17:57 < kakimir> looks nice 2016-03-21T19:18:10 < kakimir> it's very simple 2016-03-21T19:25:21 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35860814 2016-03-21T19:25:28 < Laurenceb_> the next zano 2016-03-21T19:37:35 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T19:59:18 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-21T20:14:11 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-21T20:17:58 < Steffanx> Is "To Zano" already in the oxford or cambridge dictionary Laurenceb_? 2016-03-21T20:18:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T20:18:58 < Laurenceb_> not yet but it should be 2016-03-21T20:21:15 < Rob235> anyone familiar with the reprap prusa i3? 2016-03-21T20:21:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T20:29:38 < XTL> Not yet 2016-03-21T20:29:59 < XTL> I looked at one a bit since our hackerspace got one 2016-03-21T20:30:30 < Rob235> thinking about getting one as my first printer 2016-03-21T20:34:27 < XTL> Might be a very nice choice from what I hear 2016-03-21T20:36:00 < Rob235> I keep hearing good things too. Just have to decide which kit to get. I'm not paying $600 for the original when I can get a kit for $350 + some added headache I'm sure 2016-03-21T20:37:14 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@80.252.213.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T20:38:47 < Steffanx> Obama care isnt free either. 2016-03-21T20:39:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-21T20:40:19 < Steffanx> but you already pay for that, so you should make use of it D: 2016-03-21T20:42:54 < Rob235> I used it today and got some free morphine 2016-03-21T20:43:18 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-21T20:43:41 < Steffanx> yay? 2016-03-21T20:43:43 < Rob235> my scrotum was swollen and very painful for 12 hours 2016-03-21T20:43:48 < Rob235> wasn't fun 2016-03-21T20:44:02 < Steffanx> Thanks for the information. 2016-03-21T20:44:08 < Rob235> any time 2016-03-21T20:44:44 < Steffanx> Are you the new flyback? 2016-03-21T20:45:03 < Rob235> I could be 2016-03-21T20:45:12 < Rob235> Although I get the feeling that I don't want to be 2016-03-21T20:45:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T20:47:00 < Rob235> and what happened to the old flyback? 2016-03-21T20:47:23 < Steffanx> is still alive and here. 2016-03-21T20:47:57 < Rob235> I figured that out when his name turned purple 2016-03-21T20:48:40 < Rob235> you are dark green if you were curious :) 2016-03-21T20:48:48 < Thorn> http://www.axidraw.com/ 2016-03-21T20:48:50 < Steffanx> You are blueish. 2016-03-21T20:49:05 < Steffanx> i have a printer Thorn.. 2016-03-21T20:49:10 < Steffanx> and word 2016-03-21T20:51:44 < Rob235> it's still pretty cool 2016-03-21T20:52:04 < Thorn> can your printer forge signatures? 2016-03-21T20:55:17 < Steffanx> meh 2016-03-21T20:57:02 < Steffanx> im not into that kind of business 2016-03-21T21:01:41 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-03-21T21:01:53 < Laurenceb_> Rob235 is chris-chan? 2016-03-21T21:02:12 -!- ColdKeybo[a]rd [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T21:02:18 < Rob235> ? 2016-03-21T21:02:30 < Rob235> WHO AM I??? 2016-03-21T21:03:24 < Steffanx> someone who has a condition Laurenceb_ is obsessed with 2016-03-21T21:03:25 < Laurenceb_> http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cestnepas.jpg 2016-03-21T21:04:00 < Rob235> oh.. no 2016-03-21T21:04:00 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ck@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [] 2016-03-21T21:04:03 < Rob235> I'm skinny, not fat 2016-03-21T21:04:45 < Laurenceb_> http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Chrischan_cosplay.jpg 2016-03-21T21:04:47 < Laurenceb_> found you 2016-03-21T21:05:01 < Rob235> yup thats me 2016-03-21T21:05:38 < Laurenceb_> http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/907/348/82f.jpg 2016-03-21T21:06:01 -!- ColdKeybo[a]rd is now known as ColdKeyboard 2016-03-21T21:06:09 < Rob235> stop giving me erections man 2016-03-21T21:06:57 < ColdKeyboard> Does anyone have experience with STM32 USB HID? 2016-03-21T21:07:18 < Steffanx> Not me. 2016-03-21T21:07:38 < ColdKeyboard> I'm trying to increase the report size from 2 bytes to 13, but whatever I do it makes no change or it crashes (Windows reports descriptors error) :\ 2016-03-21T21:12:36 < Steffanx> st sores? 2016-03-21T21:13:29 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have a suggestion how I can see usb device info? Like descriptors, report size and etc? 2016-03-21T21:16:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-21T21:17:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-21T21:18:11 < fenugrec> ColdKeyboard lsusb ? 2016-03-21T21:18:30 < fenugrec> ColdKeyboard and usbpcap 2016-03-21T21:18:42 < ColdKeyboard> Great, thanks! 2016-03-21T21:20:00 < Steffanx> there is the hid descriptor tool too you know? To "create, edit and validate HID Report Descriptors" 2016-03-21T21:20:07 < Steffanx> http://www.usb.org/developers/hidpage#HID Descriptor Tool 2016-03-21T21:20:54 < ColdKeyboard> Steffanx I've downloaded that tool but for some reason I cannot import existing descriptor. I have to re-create it again manually 2016-03-21T21:21:20 < ColdKeyboard> Altough, at the moment I'm more interested in checking out if my changes to the firmware config make any diferences in the device report size and descriptors :\ 2016-03-21T21:21:43 < ColdKeyboard> So far, from windows device manager I've just saw that either it works with 2 bytes or reports descriptors error and that's it :\ 2016-03-21T21:21:54 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-21T21:24:51 -!- saph0 [~hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T21:27:19 < ohsix> vagina bones 2016-03-21T21:29:09 < Steffanx> Pinky finger muscle. 2016-03-21T21:29:37 < ohsix> dunno why i read some of the crap in my rss feed; people are noticing localization changes and calling it censorship 2016-03-21T21:29:51 < ohsix> (bravely second removed the vagina bones from the succubus monster) 2016-03-21T21:31:11 < Steffanx> I didnt even know what Bravely Second is, until now. 2016-03-21T21:31:43 < ohsix> people think nintendo are doing it because of their favorite past time, but they've been removing religious symbols and reworking junk like that for the west all the way back to the NES without any outside influence 2016-03-21T21:32:49 < Steffanx> Always those jappies 2016-03-21T21:33:22 < ohsix> if they didn't have all their provocative vagina bones in the monsters we'd have nothing to rage about 2016-03-21T21:34:16 < ohsix> dongs: aside from hq2x filter on day of the tentacle remastered, they have 16:9 views ascross scrolling scenes (which will ruin a few, oh well) 2016-03-21T21:34:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T21:37:39 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@80.252.213.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-21T21:38:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-21T21:54:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T21:54:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-21T21:58:52 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T22:00:08 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T22:01:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.25.248.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T22:01:08 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.25.248.124] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-21T22:01:08 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T22:15:40 < ohsix> how do you turn a duck into a soul singer 2016-03-21T22:17:06 < ohsix> put it in the microwave until its' bill withers 2016-03-21T22:21:25 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dkbdtfpvghxkmjjr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-21T22:26:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-134.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T22:30:01 < kakimir> need very inexpensice mcu? http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Silicon-Labs/EFM8BB10F2G-A-QFN20/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu9ReDVvI6ax9sqO0qrXlDW4ZuhKcnb2c%252bQvyUXU1UbuQ%3d%3d 2016-03-21T22:35:31 < jadew> nice 2016-03-21T22:36:19 < kakimir> that's propably the best bang for buck there is 2016-03-21T22:41:02 < kakimir> get others in that price range you have barelly no IO, no ADC, one timer 2016-03-21T22:48:24 < Taxman> 8051... 2016-03-21T22:48:58 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-21T22:49:09 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T22:49:15 < kakimir> there is nothing wrong with it 2016-03-21T22:49:42 < kakimir> for some applications cortex is just too much beef 2016-03-21T22:50:19 < Taxman> pipelined architecture... is it then 3 times faster than MCS51? 2016-03-21T22:50:50 < ohsix> if you're arguing for 8051 you could probably argue a little harder for the pic and spend 20c or something 2016-03-21T22:51:08 < Taxman> AFAIK a 12 MHZ 80C32 had around 1 MIPS, it was /12 2016-03-21T22:51:12 < ohsix> that's half the cost YO 2016-03-21T22:51:47 < Steffanx> using a 8051 wouldnt even come up in my mind :P 2016-03-21T22:52:13 < kakimir> why would you want pic? 2016-03-21T22:52:45 < ohsix> because it's half the price 2016-03-21T22:52:53 < ohsix> zomg arms are BEEF and chicken and pork 2016-03-21T22:54:20 < Steffanx> i'd rather go with http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Cypress-Semiconductor/CY8C4013SXI-400/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu0f%252bT2bkVfusN9biAWhxH6mZjB2CkkXWo%3d or something. Only 20c more expensive 2016-03-21T22:54:43 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T22:54:50 < ohsix> there's an arm thing in an 8 pin thing from freescale or something that's 50c 2016-03-21T22:55:07 < ohsix> or that 2016-03-21T22:55:12 < ohsix> has psoc stuff too, huh 2016-03-21T22:55:15 < ohsix> no adc is weird 2016-03-21T22:55:18 < Steffanx> i just searched for cortex-m0 and ordered on price. 2016-03-21T22:55:23 < ohsix> werd 2016-03-21T22:56:47 < kakimir> lpc1110 is left far behind compared to that 8051 2016-03-21T22:56:48 < Steffanx> funny it does have a dac and comparator. 2016-03-21T22:56:52 < ohsix> arm in something that small is one of those leaps people look back on 10 years ago about how amaze it was 2016-03-21T22:57:09 < ohsix> werd, you can probably get by with that 2016-03-21T22:57:32 < Steffanx> werd is the new weird? 2016-03-21T22:57:53 < ohsix> werd is the stifled agreement of 'word' 2016-03-21T22:58:05 < ohsix> it doesn't date the person saying it quite as much amirite 2016-03-21T23:00:34 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T23:00:47 < ohsix> cheapest stocked part at digikey of all their microcontrollers is the pic10f200t, 35c usd 2016-03-21T23:01:17 < Taxman> and cheapest ARM cortex-M0? 2016-03-21T23:01:24 < ohsix> spansion/silicon labs have one part each that is cheaper, but non stocked 2016-03-21T23:01:40 < ohsix> sec 2016-03-21T23:02:20 < ohsix> yea that cy8c but it's non stock, .35280c usd 2016-03-21T23:02:44 < ohsix> eegh these all have nuts moq 2016-03-21T23:02:59 < ohsix> there's an atmel atsamd09 at .446c stocked 2016-03-21T23:04:57 < ohsix> what's the cheapest you can get 10 of 2016-03-21T23:05:15 < ohsix> i think that takes just about everything over a dollar 2016-03-21T23:10:29 < jadew> http://sacd.larc.nasa.gov/branches/space-mission-analysis-branch-smab/smab-projects/havoc/ 2016-03-21T23:12:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-21T23:14:04 < jadew> they're planning to land in mid-air 2016-03-21T23:14:07 < jadew> and stay there 2016-03-21T23:18:06 < ohsix> it's farther away than mars 2016-03-21T23:18:41 < ohsix> guess it doesn't matter if we're not going to any of them \m/ ;D 2016-03-21T23:18:50 < ohsix> good old nasa 2016-03-21T23:18:58 < jadew> ohsix, it's actually closer 2016-03-21T23:19:12 < ohsix> google lied to me 2016-03-21T23:19:23 < jadew> and the conditions at that altitude are much closer to what we have on earth 2016-03-21T23:19:29 < jadew> (radiation protection and gravity) 2016-03-21T23:19:30 < ohsix> is there an orbit that gets it closer or something 2016-03-21T23:19:33 < jadew> so they can stay there longer 2016-03-21T23:20:14 < ohsix> ah the article on distance to venus that google was using was about the orbit 2016-03-21T23:20:55 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-21T23:21:13 < ohsix> er wat lewl, google results are picking farthest distance out of the thing instead of closest, that's dumb 2016-03-21T23:21:23 < jadew> heh 2016-03-21T23:22:13 < jadew> the distance from Earth to Venus is 0.28AU 2016-03-21T23:22:31 < jadew> and from Earth to Mars 0.52AU 2016-03-21T23:22:35 < ohsix> closest approach to planet for mars ever was 56m km 2016-03-21T23:22:40 < jadew> source: http://theplanets.org/distances-between-planets/ 2016-03-21T23:23:10 < englishman> Taxman: looks like some feescale 16SOP w/8kb flash 2016-03-21T23:23:17 < ohsix> closest venus to mars 38m km 2016-03-21T23:23:23 < ohsix> yea google fucked me real good 2016-03-21T23:23:29 < ohsix> all i did was 'distance from earth to x' 2016-03-21T23:23:39 < ohsix> the results are not comparable or even the ones you'd want 2016-03-21T23:23:51 < jadew> yeah, it seems it might be up to 50% cheaper to get there too 2016-03-21T23:24:05 < jadew> not sure why 2016-03-21T23:24:12 < englishman> isnt orbiting the same as landing midair 2016-03-21T23:24:24 < jadew> englishman, no, they don't want to orbit 2016-03-21T23:24:25 < ohsix> not if you're in the atmosphere 2016-03-21T23:24:31 < jadew> orbitting means you have escape velocity 2016-03-21T23:24:37 < ohsix> you have drag and can take advantage of buyoancy 2016-03-21T23:24:38 < jadew> they just want to... float 2016-03-21T23:25:09 < ohsix> jadew: i wonder if going towards the sun adds up to enough gravity to have a noticable cost 2016-03-21T23:25:15 < englishman> orbiting, buoyancy, floating, so many mom jokes 2016-03-21T23:25:22 < jadew> ohsix, that's what I was thinking too 2016-03-21T23:25:28 < jadew> since Mars is in the other direction 2016-03-21T23:26:23 < jadew> but I guess that we already have escape velocity from the Sun 2016-03-21T23:26:27 < jadew> because we are on Earth 2016-03-21T23:26:53 < jadew> and when a rocket launches it inherits the speed of the Earth relative to the Sun 2016-03-21T23:27:17 < jadew> so in either direction it would have to go, it would probably have to accelerate about the same 2016-03-21T23:27:30 < jadew> but maybe not 2016-03-21T23:27:56 < jadew> I suppose that if you managed to reduce the speed relative to the sun, you would then start falling towards the center of the solar system 2016-03-21T23:28:05 < jadew> so they're probably using that too 2016-03-21T23:28:42 < jadew> anyway, going to cut my internet connection 2016-03-21T23:29:06 < ohsix> all i know about periapsis and all that celestial mechanics fun is from failing at simplerockets 2016-03-21T23:29:07 < jadew> I got 1 Gbps but my router can't handle it and my CAT5 cable is carrying power to the router too 2016-03-21T23:29:42 < jadew> so I have make some changes before I can do anything with this connection 2016-03-21T23:30:07 < jadew> heh, didn't play it 2016-03-21T23:30:09 < jadew> looks fun 2016-03-21T23:30:19 < jadew> anyway, ttyl 2016-03-21T23:30:32 < ohsix> it's easymode kerbal space program, before it existed 2016-03-21T23:32:27 < ohsix> hm re: that smb thing, you have to disable a bunch of stuff, it'll reapply shit every boot if you don't 2016-03-21T23:35:22 < Laurenceb_> lolling hard 2016-03-21T23:35:23 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatwoods_monster 2016-03-21T23:39:36 < ColdKeyboard> I've managed to change the darn descriptor size from 2 bytes to 16 and it seems to be working. For now at least :) 2016-03-21T23:39:40 < ColdKeyboard> Wohooo! :) 2016-03-21T23:41:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.139] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-21T23:43:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-134.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-21T23:56:49 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Day changed Tue Mar 22 2016 2016-03-22T00:09:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T00:12:39 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T00:13:45 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T00:14:19 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXhJ3hHK9hQ 2016-03-22T00:15:16 < ohsix> never stopped 2016-03-22T00:16:38 < Sync> pfft. goddamn lcds 2016-03-22T00:18:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T00:21:11 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T00:21:29 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T00:22:51 < ohsix> fack it wasn't rss; just another coincidence 2016-03-22T00:23:40 < Sync> yeah crt 2016-03-22T00:33:27 -!- Jegeva [~Jegeva@94-225-160-208.access.telenet.be] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T00:35:21 < Jegeva> hello guys & gals,i have the following problem, while reading a buffer written in an interrupt, after multiple successfull passes, i get a hardfault, (precise+adress), this happens on an ldrb r2, [r2, r3] 2016-03-22T00:36:11 < Jegeva> (gcc generated code), where it uses the ldr to fetch a byte in a loaded word register (ie ldr r2,r2,0 when it dies) 2016-03-22T00:36:42 < Jegeva> i don't understand why it botches after a while and not directly if the generated code is at fault 2016-03-22T00:42:17 -!- varesa [~varesa@ec2-52-49-18-111.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-03-22T00:46:44 < rewolff2> Due to pipelining, and write caching the CPU might be a few instructions beyond the bad one. Annoying/ confusing at first. 2016-03-22T00:46:44 -!- Guest21731 [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T00:47:36 < Jegeva> hum and even the instruction pointed in the sp of the hardfault handler is not pointing to the correct one ? 2016-03-22T00:47:54 < ohsix> which core is it, there's usually a dumb thing that tells you how many instructions you might need to pad out, i don't think that even happens on cortex parts 2016-03-22T00:48:19 < Jegeva> stm32f407vg, the one on the f4disco 2016-03-22T00:49:00 < ohsix> most of the stuff i know is from arm7tdmi :[ 2016-03-22T00:59:22 < ohsix> it was in the nintendo ds 2016-03-22T01:00:00 < ohsix> something like that 2016-03-22T01:00:04 < ohsix> main one was an arm9 2016-03-22T01:02:41 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T01:02:47 < jadew> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5187129660 2016-03-22T01:03:04 < ohsix> jadew: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2675785 2016-03-22T01:03:05 < jadew> I can probably improve that with a better router/cable 2016-03-22T01:03:16 < ohsix> won't be able to verify until tomorrow but still, lewl 2016-03-22T01:03:45 < jadew> interesting 2016-03-22T01:03:50 < ohsix> hundreds of arm chair tech support guys on the internet never figured out what the problem actually was 2016-03-22T01:04:13 < ohsix> i feel a little embarassed looking for information on windows problems, all the garbage there is D: 2016-03-22T01:06:09 < jadew> what blew up? 2016-03-22T01:06:09 < Thorn> that speedtest server is probably in your ISP's network, so it's not affected by any traffic caps/shaping/etc 2016-03-22T01:06:30 < jadew> lol 2016-03-22T01:06:47 < ohsix> the bulk of any shaping that might be goign on is at the bridge that gets you onto the network 2016-03-22T01:06:53 < jadew> Thorn, could be 2016-03-22T01:06:58 < ohsix> the cpe 2016-03-22T01:07:16 < jadew> ohsix, what's the cpe? 2016-03-22T01:07:26 < ohsix> customer presence equipment, the modem :< 2016-03-22T01:07:37 < jadew> ah, I see 2016-03-22T01:08:19 < ohsix> doing it at the isp would be amazingly castrophically expensive, and it'd just be to inject inefficiency in the network 2016-03-22T01:09:10 < ohsix> is it too much to say it is both amazingly and catastrophically expensive 2016-03-22T01:09:28 < Thorn> speedtest shows 100Mbps for me and my plan is capped to 50MBps 2016-03-22T01:09:48 < jadew> Thorn, probably the cap isn't working that great :) 2016-03-22T01:09:57 < jadew> it's probably getting spikes 2016-03-22T01:10:02 < Thorn> only explanation is my isp is running its own speedtest server 2016-03-22T01:10:22 < jadew> it should mention the server in there 2016-03-22T01:11:56 < jadew> I picked a server manually (from the other side of the country) and this is the result: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5187146757 2016-03-22T01:12:05 < jadew> checking with other countries now 2016-03-22T01:13:04 < jadew> heh, I'd suck myself off if I could. 2016-03-22T01:13:31 < jadew> this is with a server from Sofia: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5187148976 2016-03-22T01:14:38 < jadew> Bucharest/Ro 2016-03-22T01:14:56 < jadew> I'm getting similar results with Prague 2016-03-22T01:15:05 < jadew> Prague: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5187151947 2016-03-22T01:15:08 < jadew> that's 3 countries away 2016-03-22T01:15:38 < ohsix> Thorn: that's not the only explanation heh 2016-03-22T01:15:46 < jadew> I think it's safe to say it's a good connection 2016-03-22T01:16:25 < ohsix> comcast has a 'speed boost' thing where the bridge will let tcp connections go fast for a certain amount of time 2016-03-22T01:16:50 < ohsix> if they've configured that to be larger than the speed test samples they're just jackasses, but it also means any transfer of similar size will go zoom 2016-03-22T01:17:33 < jadew> dublin: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5187155978 2016-03-22T01:17:42 < jadew> (on the other side of europe) 2016-03-22T01:18:22 < mitrax> jadew: i'm sure pretty much everybody agrees that you have a kickass connection :p 2016-03-22T01:18:43 < jadew> hehe 2016-03-22T01:18:49 < jadew> just testing it 2016-03-22T01:19:01 < jadew> I still haven't finished setting everything up 2016-03-22T01:22:11 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T01:23:29 < ohsix> ooh 2016-03-22T01:24:20 < ohsix> docsis uses dscp 2016-03-22T01:29:00 < ohsix> http://www.cable-europe.eu/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-manager/75_PKT-SP-MM-I06-110629.PDF also some dynamic policy junk that actually asks the cmts for stuff in real time 2016-03-22T01:31:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T01:31:09 < ohsix> reading this stuff is a pain in the butt 2016-03-22T01:40:00 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T01:58:59 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T01:59:40 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:05:22 < Laurenceb_> I suck a c++ 2016-03-22T02:05:39 < Laurenceb_> class connectionManager(PortSelectDialog* used_port_): public QObject { Q_OBJECT 2016-03-22T02:05:47 < Laurenceb_> why is this an error? 2016-03-22T02:06:06 < Laurenceb_> expected ')' before '*' 2016-03-22T02:06:29 < mitrax> you're mixing up the class declaration and the constructor declaration 2016-03-22T02:06:33 < ohsix> can't even read that, can you have an argument for class foo() ? 2016-03-22T02:07:14 < Laurenceb_> oh ok 2016-03-22T02:07:16 < mitrax> class connectionManager : public QObject {... connectionManager(PortSelectDialog* used_port_): ... <= constructor here 2016-03-22T02:07:24 < Laurenceb_> I see 2016-03-22T02:07:44 < ohsix> i can never be too sure since i don't know any c++11 funny stuff ;D 2016-03-22T02:14:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:15:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T02:15:53 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-22T02:19:08 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:19:21 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.25.248.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:26:24 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T02:28:40 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:31:56 < mitrax> bed time 2016-03-22T02:36:06 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.25.248.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:37:11 < Laurenceb_> QQueue queue_; 2016-03-22T02:37:14 -!- varesa_ [~varesa@ec2-52-49-18-111.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:37:25 < Laurenceb_> field has incomplete type 2016-03-22T02:37:34 < Laurenceb_> I don't understand :-S 2016-03-22T02:39:04 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.25.248.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-22T02:39:50 < dongs> queerqueue 2016-03-22T02:40:58 -!- varesa_ is now known as varesa 2016-03-22T02:42:34 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/freelance-electronic-engineer-for-short/ attn Laurenceb_ 2016-03-22T02:42:37 < dongs> youre qualified 2016-03-22T02:43:51 < kakimir> dongs: someone missed you in the afternoon 2016-03-22T02:43:58 < kakimir> *evening 2016-03-22T02:44:09 < dongs> you mean autism6? probably. no problem tho. 2016-03-22T02:45:03 < kakimir> asked about chinagirl and threeways 2016-03-22T02:45:26 < Laurenceb_> what the hell price 2016-03-22T02:45:39 < Laurenceb_> seriously.. 2016-03-22T02:45:50 < dongs> i hope its a typo and they meant per hour 2016-03-22T02:45:53 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-22T02:46:43 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-22T02:58:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:58:48 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.25.248.124] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-22T02:58:48 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T02:59:54 -!- saph0 [~hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-22T03:00:26 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T03:02:43 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T03:02:50 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-22T03:06:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T03:08:01 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN6e8k5LNqc fresh musicspams 2016-03-22T03:10:27 < upgrdman> is there a gcc command line options to always treat "inline" as if it was "__attribute__((always_inline))" 2016-03-22T03:10:52 < upgrdman> e.g. make inline a "demand", instead of just "advise" 2016-03-22T03:11:12 < upgrdman> R2COM, forces an inline function to be inlined, even if the compiler thinks it would be best not to 2016-03-22T03:11:23 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T03:11:25 < upgrdman> e.g. no overhead from stackframes, etc. 2016-03-22T03:11:31 < dongs> do you REALLY think youre better than a compiler 2016-03-22T03:11:36 < upgrdman> yes 2016-03-22T03:11:38 < upgrdman> yes i do 2016-03-22T03:11:45 < dongs> well, with gcc, maybe thats true. 2016-03-22T03:11:56 < upgrdman> espcially when my code runs fuckloads faster if i force inlining for some shit 2016-03-22T03:12:12 < upgrdman> like lcd dixel drawing functions, etc. 2016-03-22T03:12:30 < dongs> pretty sure ivan was using mplab 2016-03-22T03:12:33 < dongs> the PRO pic compiler 2016-03-22T03:13:27 < dongs> trying to draw a footprint 2016-03-22T03:14:31 < dongs> more like freelanceb 2016-03-22T03:14:48 < dongs> R2PRO, can you put a notch into a pad in ORCPRO 2016-03-22T03:15:16 < dongs> no sec imguring 2016-03-22T03:15:21 < dongs> like a edge cut off 2016-03-22T03:15:34 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/1cYX0ic.png 2016-03-22T03:15:47 < dongs> lol 2016-03-22T03:15:58 < dongs> as far as I know, you cant in altidong wihtout drawing a custom pad shape 2016-03-22T03:16:03 < dongs> and then attaching a small pad to it 2016-03-22T03:16:47 < dongs> ya me neither im just gonna leave it rectangular 2016-03-22T03:21:39 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAs70DjL_Bc got this as ad on kikemir's muzak 2016-03-22T03:22:42 < dongs> hah, digikey started stocking those panasonic thin board to board shits that ipad etc uses 2016-03-22T03:23:03 < dongs> http://www.digikey.jp/ja/product-highlight/p/panasonic-electric-works/s35-series-narrow-pitch-connectors 2016-03-22T03:23:56 < dongs> http://imgur.com/D8434KX 2016-03-22T03:24:30 < kakimir> R2COM: nice bass 2016-03-22T03:24:51 < dongs> kikemir, how long would it take to make that footprint in kikecad 2016-03-22T03:25:13 < dongs> also your song sucks dick 2016-03-22T03:25:20 < dongs> why would i wanna listen to some dude singing, im not gay 2016-03-22T03:25:53 < kakimir> it did suck 2016-03-22T03:27:14 < kakimir> I don't know... 15minutes? 2016-03-22T03:28:38 < dongs> yeah totally 2016-03-22T03:28:53 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T03:29:09 < dongs> is taht gamer shit?> 2016-03-22T03:29:16 < kakimir> what commercials? 2016-03-22T03:30:07 < dongs> YouTube Red is not currently available in Japan. 2016-03-22T03:30:08 < dongs> Learn more 2016-03-22T03:30:13 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T03:30:31 < kakimir> root the phone and adblock it 2016-03-22T03:30:48 < kakimir> run adblock proxy 2016-03-22T03:30:52 < kakimir> in phone 2016-03-22T03:31:00 < dongs> why would i even give a shit 2016-03-22T03:31:53 < kakimir> are you serious 2016-03-22T03:34:18 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used signals and slots in Qt? 2016-03-22T03:34:23 < Laurenceb_> I dont get it :-/ 2016-03-22T03:34:33 < Laurenceb_> connectionmanager.cpp:49: error: undefined reference to `connectionManager::setDeviceDescriptor(QByteArray*)' 2016-03-22T03:34:43 < Laurenceb_> thats a signal 2016-03-22T03:34:51 < Laurenceb_> wtf it isnt a function in the class 2016-03-22T03:36:01 < dongs> use the MOC 2016-03-22T03:36:57 < kakimir> the ultimate ui library 2016-03-22T03:37:44 < dongs> really trollenceb shoulda just used wxwidgets 2016-03-22T03:39:03 < kakimir> tk 2016-03-22T03:39:09 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-22T03:39:19 < dongs> ah yes tcl/tk 2016-03-22T03:39:29 < Laurenceb_> wx and tk are actually worse that Qt 2016-03-22T03:39:32 < dongs> no that would be actual trolling 2016-03-22T03:39:35 < FatalNIX> shoulda just used a real GUI 2016-03-22T03:39:37 < FatalNIX> like curses 2016-03-22T03:39:39 < FatalNIX> :) 2016-03-22T03:39:41 < Laurenceb_> like how BBB is worse than Rpi 2016-03-22T03:39:50 < Laurenceb_> even tho Rpi sucks donkey cock 2016-03-22T03:39:55 < FatalNIX> Laurenceb_, I use my BBB for my ipv6 router 2016-03-22T03:39:57 < FatalNIX> it works amazingly 2016-03-22T03:40:19 < FatalNIX> to be honest, the pi is worse than a bbb in my opinion, hardware is much more delicate. but meh 2016-03-22T03:40:46 < Laurenceb_> BBB PMIC and RTC is horribly broken due to incompetence 2016-03-22T03:40:54 < FatalNIX> R2COM, Real programmers use butterflies 2016-03-22T03:41:00 < Laurenceb_> it uses a full 65mA more than it needs to due to n00bness 2016-03-22T03:41:03 < FatalNIX> Laurenceb_, use an external crystal :P 2016-03-22T03:41:21 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T03:41:51 < dongs> R2COM: hes developing that shit on lunix 2016-03-22T03:41:53 < FatalNIX> Laurenceb_, beaglebones don't crash when you take their picture :P 2016-03-22T03:41:55 < dongs> instafail 2016-03-22T03:42:14 < FatalNIX> lolol 2016-03-22T03:44:22 < kakimir> rpi crashes when you touch it 2016-03-22T03:44:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T03:47:37 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T03:48:07 < englishman> rpi is shit without touching it 2016-03-22T03:48:55 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T03:54:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:00:27 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:00:41 < dongs> but its a great media player!111oneoen 2016-03-22T04:00:58 < dongs> .. if your media is pirated SD garbage from shittorrents 2016-03-22T04:01:19 < dongs> ethernet/usb on that shit is too fucking slow to even play anything useful 2016-03-22T04:01:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T04:05:43 < Sync> lxi ftw 2016-03-22T04:05:51 < Sync> or gpib 2016-03-22T04:06:03 < Sync> lxi 2016-03-22T04:06:06 < upgrdman> speaking of usb 2016-03-22T04:06:17 < upgrdman> another know of any bottom-entry usb ports? 2016-03-22T04:06:23 < Sync> LAN eXtensions for Instrumentation u neb 2016-03-22T04:06:35 < upgrdman> so i can make a pcb into part of a case, and you plug the cable into the back side of the pcb 2016-03-22T04:06:36 < Sync> lxi ;) 2016-03-22T04:06:44 < Sync> that's what it is called 2016-03-22T04:06:58 < Sync> but seriously, gpib is not bad, just old 2016-03-22T04:07:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-22T04:07:34 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-22T04:07:50 < Sync> well, lxi is basically gpib/scpi over ethernet 2016-03-22T04:08:41 < Sync> yes 2016-03-22T04:08:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:11:21 < Sync> no, because lazy 2016-03-22T04:11:29 < Sync> the time lost due to usb shits fucking around 2016-03-22T04:14:00 < FatalNIX> man 2016-03-22T04:14:50 < FatalNIX> how come I can build my own processor architecture, and yet I can't wire up a button to an stm32 2016-03-22T04:17:12 < FatalNIX> crt, wut 2016-03-22T04:20:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.29] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-22T04:22:44 < Laurenceb_> oh dear 2016-03-22T04:22:51 < Laurenceb_> "undefined reference to vtable" 2016-03-22T04:23:37 < Laurenceb_> lol troll 2016-03-22T04:23:53 < Laurenceb_> u mad bro 2016-03-22T04:24:25 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T04:25:17 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-22T04:31:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.135] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:33:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:34:00 < englishman> whats your favourite media player with cec and shit dongs 2016-03-22T04:34:36 < englishman> i use my tv like 3 times a year 2016-03-22T04:39:13 < dongs> theres nothing good, now that xmbc is available, china just says "lol", makes a shitty assdroid box and points whining users to a forum 2016-03-22T04:39:33 < Laurenceb_> nope I can't make this shit work 2016-03-22T04:39:50 < Laurenceb_> signals: 2016-03-22T04:39:50 < Laurenceb_> void setDTR(bool); 2016-03-22T04:40:10 < dongs> moc stuff in qt is pretty lame 2016-03-22T04:40:24 < Laurenceb_> connectionmanager.cpp:19: error: undefined reference to `connectionManager::setDTR(bool)' 2016-03-22T04:40:29 < Laurenceb_> whyyyyy 2016-03-22T04:40:47 < Laurenceb_> its a "signal" not a function 2016-03-22T04:41:09 < dongs> R2COM: he asked about hardware shit you dingleberry 2016-03-22T04:42:04 < dongs> 384kHz/96bit 2016-03-22T04:42:35 < dongs> haha, ordering some cut pinheaders from chinagirl 2016-03-22T04:42:52 < dongs> "do you want ones cut by people, its fast, but edges are kinda shit, or ones that cut by machine, takes longer, but looks better" 2016-03-22T04:43:16 < dongs> lol @ chinks cutting headers being faster than machine doing same 2016-03-22T04:44:48 < dongs> why the shit are you even using fuxit 2016-03-22T04:44:54 < dongs> it doesnt even support PDF forms 2016-03-22T04:44:56 < dongs> or anything useful 2016-03-22T04:45:47 < dongs> duno brah 2016-03-22T04:45:51 < dongs> i have acrobat pro 2016-03-22T04:45:53 < dongs> its great 2016-03-22T04:45:54 < dongs> NOT DC 2016-03-22T04:47:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T04:48:12 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:49:36 < Laurenceb_> WTF 2016-03-22T04:49:51 < Laurenceb_> have to click build -> clean build->qmake 2016-03-22T04:49:57 < Laurenceb_> WTF qtcreator 2016-03-22T04:51:42 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:52:23 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T04:53:59 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T04:54:23 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T04:55:44 < Laurenceb_> the projectfile could not be parsed 2016-03-22T04:55:48 < Laurenceb_> PROject 2016-03-22T04:55:55 < ohsix> one handed boxing wut 2016-03-22T05:05:36 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-22T05:10:00 < ohsix> one handed boxing????? 2016-03-22T05:11:26 < ohsix> adafr00t liveglurges way too much 2016-03-22T05:20:43 < dongs> Laurenceb_: yeah, i think clean build re-runs preprocessor/moc shit 2016-03-22T05:20:52 < dongs> it probably doesnt do it for every build if you dont cahnge unrelated shit 2016-03-22T05:21:04 < dongs> sounds like a pretty pro fail tho 2016-03-22T05:21:08 < Laurenceb_> had to kill -9 2016-03-22T05:21:28 < dongs> lunix -9 2016-03-22T05:22:46 < ohsix> Jegeva: did you figure out what happened? 2016-03-22T05:23:53 < ohsix> looks like cortex has some of the same 'issues' for some types of exceptions 2016-03-22T05:26:29 < ohsix> looks like it's only a one more instruction type of thing though, for async exceptions the processor can execute another instruction between having triggered exception and handling it 2016-03-22T05:28:17 < ohsix> dongs: is there a place you can send a pdf and get back a book 2016-03-22T05:28:19 < ohsix> without bullshit 2016-03-22T05:29:14 < ohsix> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/On_demand_book_printer_1.jpg (at the internet archive, neat) 2016-03-22T05:35:22 < ohsix> buh tried random one with an 800 page limit (thing i wanted to print is 1200) for 2 copies it's 110gbp, nut bad 2016-03-22T05:37:48 < ohsix> sucks if you want to publish a lot of them i guess, but if you want one copy for yourself, having similar price to a retail book is kewl (at least, not loads more) 2016-03-22T05:39:32 < dongs> http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1458487818295.webm attn vapists 2016-03-22T05:40:47 < ohsix> i saw some crooked looking dude park a big suv illegally and he was vapin some junk 2016-03-22T05:40:54 < dongs> http://www.redox-os.org/book/book/introduction/why_redox.html 2016-03-22T05:41:05 < ohsix> having fancy tools isn't unlike being a high tech pedophile 2016-03-22T05:41:10 < ohsix> still gross 2016-03-22T05:41:29 < ohsix> jared from subway 2016-03-22T05:42:13 < ohsix> Legacy until infinity: Old syscalls stay around forever, drivers for long-unbuyable hardware stay in the kernel as a mandatory part. While they can be disabled, running them in kernel space is essentially unnecessary, and is, by far, the biggest source of system crashes, security issues, and unexpected bugs. 2016-03-22T05:42:14 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-22T05:42:33 < ohsix> if they're old drivers they're not going to bind to any hw you don't 2016-03-22T05:42:37 < ohsix> does not follow D: 2016-03-22T05:43:15 < ohsix> ah should have read a bit farther so i'd have known to close the tab 2016-03-22T05:44:05 < ohsix> so that's basically a wiki for wish fulfillment and nothing exists yet 2016-03-22T05:44:09 < dongs> oh its written in rust 2016-03-22T05:44:11 < dongs> fucking lol 2016-03-22T05:44:23 < ohsix> because C is bad you need this other thing 2016-03-22T05:44:25 < ohsix> don't you see 2016-03-22T05:44:36 < ohsix> if C wasn't bad it wouldn't be such an easy point to make! 2016-03-22T05:44:49 < ohsix> a point that doesn't actually support your position, but an easy point! 2016-03-22T05:45:03 < dongs> In constrast to Linux, which has a code base with 100% unsafe code, due to the nature of C. 2016-03-22T05:45:18 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-22T05:45:22 < lorenzo> is that for real 2016-03-22T05:45:26 < dongs> yes 2016-03-22T05:45:41 < ohsix> it's mostly about linux 2016-03-22T05:45:44 < ohsix> since bsd is great 2016-03-22T05:45:46 < dongs> https://github.com/redox-os/redox 2016-03-22T05:45:56 < ohsix> has all the same problems but linux is bad out loud, bad linux 2016-03-22T05:46:52 < ohsix> the biggest argument for !C is literally because it isn't C, the languages are not well studied for security like C has been 2016-03-22T05:48:26 < ohsix> not c sure sounds a lot like nazi 2016-03-22T05:48:42 < ohsix> someone could call anyone that suggests C is bad a not c 2016-03-22T05:49:03 < ohsix> maybe they'll cringe hard enough at a bad pun to stop what they're doing 2016-03-22T05:49:23 < lorenzo> that thing screams "I'm a precious snowflake who can't understand C, so the rest of the world is wrong" 2016-03-22T05:51:08 < ohsix> don't let them move the burden of proof :D 2016-03-22T05:51:35 < ohsix> there will be an orgy of activity from all the people that agree with them 2016-03-22T05:51:36 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T05:51:43 < ohsix> and then it will be 25 million lines of code 2016-03-22T05:52:14 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T05:53:10 < ohsix> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/world/europe/boaty-mcboatface-what-you-get-when-you-let-the-internet-decide.html 2016-03-22T05:57:33 < dongs> pub unsafe fn new(mut pci: PciConfig) -> Box { 2016-03-22T05:57:40 < dongs> such retarded syntax wow 2016-03-22T05:57:47 < dongs> all tehse newfag langauges are just terrible 2016-03-22T05:57:57 < ohsix> the best part about linux sucking is that if they had a point it would be so easy to make it with some examples 2016-03-22T05:58:06 < ohsix> dongs: unsafe???????????????????????????????????????????????????/ 2016-03-22T05:59:26 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-22T06:00:01 < dongs> huh. silabs gave away their evalboard . weird. 2016-03-22T06:00:09 < dongs> i totally expected to pay $$$ for it 2016-03-22T06:00:39 < lorenzo> I've never found a use for their 8051 stuff, got some of their toolsticks 2016-03-22T06:00:59 < dongs> their digital tv stuff. 2016-03-22T06:01:46 < dongs> none 2016-03-22T06:16:06 < ohsix> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/unsafe.html does this work for anyone, getting connection reset 2016-03-22T06:16:43 < dongs> works fine for me, youre banned 2016-03-22T06:17:13 < ohsix> It’s important to be able to explicitly delineate code that may have bugs that cause big problems. If a Rust program segfaults, you can be sure the cause is related to something marked unsafe. 2016-03-22T06:17:23 < ohsix> nah it is their tls config 2016-03-22T06:17:44 < ohsix> In addition, the following are all undefined behaviors in Rust, and must be avoided, even when writing unsafe code: 2016-03-22T06:17:54 < ohsix> they have the same crutch C does 2016-03-22T06:18:23 < ohsix> like literally 2016-03-22T06:18:50 < ohsix> they designate it undefined and say just not to do it, and the undefined behaviours overlap with c 2016-03-22T06:19:54 < lorenzo> ohsix: yeah, but there's the unsafe keyword 2016-03-22T06:20:00 < lorenzo> :p 2016-03-22T06:20:09 < ohsix> and mut! 2016-03-22T06:20:33 < ohsix> kind of like kernel tainting, you can shun people if they're doing something hinky 2016-03-22T06:22:43 < ohsix> the guy behind boaty mcboatface is 'Mr. Hand' 2016-03-22T06:48:42 < ohsix> it is rust, perfectly fine 2016-03-22T06:49:16 < ohsix> are they m0? there's recent free developments there (pun intended) 2016-03-22T06:54:39 < ohsix> heh @ eevblag teardown of adjustable load thing; has the stm32f103c8t6 in it 2016-03-22T06:54:51 < ohsix> officially the best part??????????????? 2016-03-22T06:55:11 < ohsix> is it the cheapest one or what, why does everyone seem to use it 2016-03-22T06:59:10 < ohsix> it's in everything, i'm just wondering what other real reasons there might be that it is so popular 2016-03-22T07:00:07 < ohsix> hmm 2016-03-22T07:00:16 < ohsix> might be cheapest at 72mhz 2016-03-22T07:01:16 < ohsix> cheapest tqfp, 72mhz, f1 2016-03-22T07:03:14 < ohsix> it is the cheapest of: 72mhz, highest mem/flash capacity, f1 series 2016-03-22T07:05:42 < ohsix> +lqfp 2016-03-22T07:13:31 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-22T07:16:31 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkm8Hteeh6M 2016-03-22T07:17:16 < ohsix> is that a parody? 2016-03-22T07:17:25 < ohsix> if it was it might actually be pretty good 2016-03-22T07:18:48 < ohsix> they got that breitbart boosterism 2016-03-22T07:20:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T07:23:27 < ohsix> eevblog is full on the patreon and end of video links train 2016-03-22T07:23:44 < ohsix> no more black screen and smoke 2016-03-22T07:32:21 < dongs> http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/eevblog hes dying anyway 2016-03-22T07:35:26 < ohsix> yea i think he's got more than one revenue stream so he can cash in some cred on youtube 2016-03-22T07:35:35 < ohsix> +now 2016-03-22T07:36:03 < ohsix> just having related videos in the info box is no goooood 2016-03-22T07:36:16 < ohsix> those annotations don't work on mobile either 2016-03-22T07:36:22 < ohsix> can't actually click 2016-03-22T07:38:20 < dongs> hmm USPS has free GXG stickers 2016-03-22T07:38:32 < dongs> wonder if they have free packing tape 2016-03-22T07:38:35 < dongs> with USPS logo o nit 2016-03-22T07:38:55 < dongs> aww, tape costs money 2016-03-22T07:38:57 < dongs> $6.58 2016-03-22T07:40:33 < ohsix> gxg? 2016-03-22T07:40:48 < dongs> global express thing, that uses fedex 2016-03-22T07:41:31 < dongs> yes 2016-03-22T07:42:31 < dongs> Firefox 45.0.1 waht the hell 2016-03-22T07:42:40 < dongs> do tehy just increment that number whenever they feel like it 2016-03-22T07:44:23 < ohsix> are you too new to understand major/minor/rev numbers 2016-03-22T07:44:54 < ohsix> crt: don't use eevblog in the name and make it obvious parody 2016-03-22T07:45:06 < dongs> daveblog 2016-03-22T07:45:17 < ohsix> doing minimal cuts of his videos could be funny 2016-03-22T07:45:34 < ohsix> you could leave some ums and uhs in 2016-03-22T07:46:00 < ohsix> heheheh 2016-03-22T07:52:04 < dongs> i think you're overestimating his usefulness. 2016-03-22T07:52:10 < ohsix> maybe 2016-03-22T07:52:20 < ohsix> i got over it in like 10 videos 2016-03-22T07:52:26 < dongs> his shit has been zero-content for a while now 2016-03-22T07:52:33 < ohsix> when ee pal linked to it that was the first thing i said 2016-03-22T07:52:37 < dongs> waste of time + plz click my patreon is all he does now 2016-03-22T07:52:51 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-22T07:53:01 < ohsix> crt: do you watch it? 2016-03-22T07:55:18 < lorenzo> first videos were interesting 2016-03-22T07:55:38 < lorenzo> now he just takes things apart and goes like "here's a fpga. here's an Atmel thing. here's some bodginess" 2016-03-22T07:55:56 < lorenzo> :( 2016-03-22T07:56:10 < dongs> gxti: explain this hiding pins/stacking and 1,2,3,4 on pin name thin in altidong 2016-03-22T07:56:46 < ohsix> when did he start doing the turn it on take it apart thing 2016-03-22T07:56:59 < ohsix> it takes some work to think it is something else ;D 2016-03-22T07:57:20 < ohsix> taking stuff apart is how i learned tons of stuff 2016-03-22T07:57:53 < ohsix> watching presentation, they mentioned this http://www.smallmemory.com/book.html 2016-03-22T07:57:57 < ohsix> looks handy 2016-03-22T07:59:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-22T07:59:38 < lorenzo> "large amounts of human ingenuity were spent trying to simulate supernova explosions with nothing more than a future Nobel prize winner and a vast array of valves." 2016-03-22T07:59:38 < lorenzo> ha 2016-03-22T07:59:46 < lorenzo> ohsix: looks interesting, thanks 2016-03-22T08:20:39 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T08:23:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T08:29:24 < ohsix> anyone know offhand if sizeof on a function will return anything like what you might see in the full eventual linker map 2016-03-22T08:35:16 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T08:35:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T08:42:23 < jpa-> ohsix: no, i don't think it would; though it doesn't seem to return the size of a function pointer either, which would have been what i would have expected 2016-03-22T08:44:08 < jpa-> apparently on gcc it just returns 1; http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6988227/output-of-using-sizeof-on-a-function 2016-03-22T08:44:19 < ohsix> yea i see someone saying that is what is specified 2016-03-22T08:44:24 < upgrdman> jesus fuck. why cant laptops be waterproof so i can dip my bro4 into a bucket of water when rendering. shit this is getting hot. 2016-03-22T08:44:40 < ohsix> i just went and tested it all and stuff, remembered some related things i had to do 2016-03-22T08:45:05 < ohsix> i just used function address plus 4k to copy the stuff i needed ;D 2016-03-22T08:45:13 < ohsix> and made it naked 2016-03-22T08:46:00 < ohsix> i was thinking about some stuff i could use with the info but i can just get it fromthe map or the object file 2016-03-22T08:47:07 < ohsix> basically tracking code size changes over time, gcc versions; if sizeof worked it might assert that some don't go over specific size so tests fail 2016-03-22T08:49:49 < upgrdman> wtf blender. why are your cloth simulations retarded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuDJlKqi3Ew << lolwut 2016-03-22T08:51:24 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-22T08:51:58 < ohsix> not enough faces to collide with? or more specifically, edges 2016-03-22T08:52:11 < upgrdman> maybe 2016-03-22T08:52:16 < ohsix> numerical precision problems could cause fall through there 2016-03-22T08:52:22 < upgrdman> i might have overlooked some approximation settings. 2016-03-22T08:52:29 < upgrdman> it was my first try at a physics sim 2016-03-22T08:52:34 < ohsix> if you bake or do it offline it will usually use a better solver 2016-03-22T08:52:46 < upgrdman> i baked it 2016-03-22T08:52:53 < ohsix> er oh uh, 'it', i haven't used blender much, this is from other 3d packages 2016-03-22T08:53:01 < upgrdman> ya 2016-03-22T08:53:17 < ohsix> blender is on my bucket list :( 2016-03-22T08:53:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-22T08:54:01 < ohsix> it is one of those things where i need some literal instruction for a bit ;] 2016-03-22T08:54:13 < upgrdman> side note: bro4 gets fucking toasty after rendering for like 3 minutes 2016-03-22T08:54:22 < upgrdman> im tempted to get a big ass heatsink 2016-03-22T08:54:30 < upgrdman> and like double-stick tape it to the back 2016-03-22T08:55:06 < ohsix> huhuhu 2016-03-22T08:55:16 < ohsix> cool it does it at all in a usable way 2016-03-22T08:58:14 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@151.34.114.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:01:38 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@151.34.114.48] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-22T09:09:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T09:18:26 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:19:17 < dongs> damn, gxti has been dead 2016-03-22T09:19:58 < ohsix> what is that 2016-03-22T09:21:35 < PeterM> a user 2016-03-22T09:21:55 < dongs> maybe you know 2016-03-22T09:22:08 < dongs> any way to group a bunch of pins together on a symbol 2016-03-22T09:22:23 < dongs> like that ISL thing has A1,A2,A3,A4 to VIN or somethin 2016-03-22T09:22:28 < dongs> im to lazy to connect all 4 with wires 2016-03-22T09:22:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:22:49 < dongs> he posted somehin about stacking and hiding the other pins 2016-03-22T09:22:53 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T09:22:57 < dongs> but hiding only lets you connect to specific net, that sounds really hacky 2016-03-22T09:23:30 < PeterM> i do osmething even more hacky, if the footprint if only used for one componet, i name the pins with the nets 2016-03-22T09:23:42 < dongs> haha, sigh 2016-03-22T09:23:57 < dongs> switching to eagle now 2016-03-22T09:24:20 < ohsix> you have them related so you don't get drc fails if you connect to one of 5 or something? 2016-03-22T09:24:28 < PeterM> im sure there is a way to do it, like place all pins ontop of each other and then hide the designator + name 2016-03-22T09:24:40 < dongs> thats what he said to do yes 2016-03-22T09:24:43 < dongs> but i dont see hwo that works 2016-03-22T09:24:52 < dongs> is that gonna generate a 'link' thing at t he edge of a pin when you wire it? 2016-03-22T09:24:59 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-22T09:25:01 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:25:12 < dongs> hokay. 2016-03-22T09:25:35 < dongs> done. 2016-03-22T09:25:36 < dongs> trying. 2016-03-22T09:26:34 < ohsix> is it people pooping while twerking 2016-03-22T09:29:43 < ohsix> dongs: have you used te free trial files with ruboard stuff? 2016-03-22T09:30:14 < dongs> no idea 2016-03-22T09:30:27 < dongs> PeterM: works 2016-03-22T09:31:48 < PeterM> might do that for ICs, but for discrete i'll still stick to net names, eg on a fet footprint there can be liek 5 drain pins, 3 source pins and a gate, they're all just G, D or S no D1, D2, D3 shit 2016-03-22T09:32:12 < ohsix> yea why not just name them all VIN 2016-03-22T09:32:30 < PeterM> ... 2016-03-22T09:32:37 < ohsix> ???????????????????????????? 2016-03-22T09:33:42 < c10ud^> yo dongs, do you have chinagirl for 32" touch panels? (not lcd screens, just the touch) 2016-03-22T09:34:04 < PeterM> c10ud^, wut 2016-03-22T09:34:21 < ohsix> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Pin,+Pair+and+Part+Swapping heh neat 2016-03-22T09:34:24 < PeterM> do yu ahve like a part number or some shit 2016-03-22T09:34:37 < dongs> 32" touch sounds difficult to transport 2016-03-22T09:34:57 < c10ud^> PN: "resistive touch panel that can be applied on a led screen" 2016-03-22T09:35:09 < c10ud^> yeah, it is 2016-03-22T09:35:48 < ohsix> are pin swaps something else entirely? it lets you pick where things go for routing decisions if you can have them come out on different sets of pins 2016-03-22T09:36:04 < PeterM> ohsix, differnt thing entirely 2016-03-22T09:36:11 < c10ud^> 32" with specs I need and touch: 3K eur -- 32" with specs I need and no touch: < 1k eur, that's why I ask hehe 2016-03-22T09:36:11 < dongs> I just fired all my LCD/etc people 2016-03-22T09:36:14 < dongs> for fucking up an order 2016-03-22T09:36:23 < dongs> so i need to find some new ones 2016-03-22T09:37:21 < c10ud^> I'm waiting for some responses, but I don't know if I can trust randoms in alibaba 2016-03-22T09:37:57 < c10ud^> I would have preferred some kind-of-reputable company 2016-03-22T09:38:22 < PeterM> ohsix, you use that feature for say, on an opamp you set your inputs and outputs as groups and jsut route to the most convenient group, or in a micro you route to the most convenient port, or in an fpga choose your peripheral 2016-03-22T09:38:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T09:40:01 < PeterM> i also use it on things like resistor packs so its easier to route 2016-03-22T09:42:00 < dongs> PeterM: how much setup is needed on a rpack for that? 2016-03-22T09:42:05 < dongs> i just do it manually usually by dicking nets around 2016-03-22T09:45:32 < PeterM> unfortunately a fair bit, but if im using resistor packs i need the space, so its worth it 2016-03-22T09:46:07 < dongs> that /ADOH/ page is worthless tho 2016-03-22T09:46:24 < PeterM> it is 2016-03-22T09:47:12 < PeterM> i had an issue the other day with an error from my components, i had created a componet and when i would place it it would be placed as a child component of a sheet that didnt exist 2016-03-22T09:47:33 < PeterM> but the thing is, it was jsut a normal component made like any other component 2016-03-22T09:48:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:50:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T09:50:58 < dongs> duno wat i did 2016-03-22T09:51:04 < dongs> edited pin groups 2016-03-22T09:51:23 < dongs> put "same" pins on rpack into same group number. 2016-03-22T09:51:26 < dongs> is that all it takes? 2016-03-22T09:52:04 < dongs> hm nope 2016-03-22T09:52:04 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T09:52:43 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:53:05 < dongs> only works if I make rpack as separate subparts?? 2016-03-22T09:53:54 < dongs> fuck this, already spent more time on it than it would take to dick the nets around by looking at sch/pcb and manually moving labels 2016-03-22T09:55:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T09:57:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-22T09:58:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T10:01:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T10:05:33 < dongs> so fucking sick of alt-tab shit 'alphabetically sorted' thing when you have more htan 5 windows open 2016-03-22T10:05:37 < dongs> checking if that shit is fixable in win10 too 2016-03-22T10:06:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T10:07:11 < dongs> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AltTabSettings = 1 2016-03-22T10:07:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T10:07:15 < dongs> k 2016-03-22T10:07:17 < dongs> see if works 2016-03-22T10:07:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T10:08:29 < dongs> no longer works in 10 2016-03-22T10:08:32 < dongs> raped. 2016-03-22T10:09:54 < dongs> crt, win10 has something even worse 2016-03-22T10:10:01 < dongs> win-tab does some macfag-like shit 2016-03-22T10:10:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-22T10:12:00 < lorenzo> wtf in bruxelles 2016-03-22T10:13:51 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T10:14:17 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T10:15:51 < ohsix> dongs: in the past there were window messages so you could write your own thing to do that 2016-03-22T10:18:28 < dongs> fucking GOLD 2016-03-22T10:18:44 < dongs> dotnetfx35sp1.exe (~300megs) requires "installing dot net 3.5" 2016-03-22T10:19:10 < dongs> for some rfucked reason windowsupdate at my place has beenm going at 3k/sec 2016-03-22T10:19:12 < dongs> last weeks 2016-03-22T10:19:25 < PeterM> your glorious nippon internets will vut through the downlaod in the blink of an eye 2016-03-22T10:19:34 < PeterM> WUT 2016-03-22T10:22:13 < zyp> so just go to jp then? 2016-03-22T10:22:46 < zyp> sure, it's called vacation 2016-03-22T10:23:16 < zyp> their what? 2016-03-22T10:23:55 < zyp> never happened me 2016-03-22T10:27:11 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T10:27:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.56.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-22T10:29:08 < PeterM> crt id be mroe worried about mothra 2016-03-22T10:42:06 < ohsix> heh wut, watching a 'penn and teller fool us' clip, i figured out something they didn't :[ 2016-03-22T10:42:21 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCFXV6o7cro the guy views all the cards and flips them with his right hand 2016-03-22T10:43:00 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@89.190.50.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T10:43:25 < ohsix> he does it just after they pick cards 2016-03-22T10:43:40 < ohsix> he's got an opportunity to view them all without it looking suspicious 2016-03-22T10:44:02 < dongs> im watching fucking trash download 300megs at 8kilobit/sec because reasons and this is while im running a 350meg package that alreadyt FUCKING INCLUDES ALL TEH SAME SHIT 2016-03-22T10:44:13 < dongs> yes, kiloBIT 2016-03-22T10:45:55 < ohsix> git gud 2016-03-22T10:47:02 -!- Emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-22T10:47:23 < ohsix> rusure you don't have youtube playing, that messes with windows 2016-03-22T10:48:50 < ohsix> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa first i'm hearing of this 2016-03-22T10:48:55 < ohsix> panel is back bebe 2016-03-22T10:50:07 < dongs> its downloading from hk2sch130020919.wns.windows.com. 2016-03-22T10:50:10 < dongs> and that site is dead as FUCK 2016-03-22T10:50:39 < ohsix> filter it @ fw so it kills it and tries another one 2016-03-22T10:56:16 < dongs>

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Ref A: 2ADC71D474044C43A1266C063890970A Ref B: 792812C4ED65A07C737AF907E415DB21 Ref C: Tue Mar 22 01:56:05 2016 PST 2016-03-22T10:56:20 < dongs> wat 2016-03-22T11:24:13 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-22T11:24:13 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T11:32:15 < dongs> SHENZHEN IS MURDER 2016-03-22T11:33:55 < dongs> does pioneer use genuine FTDI 2016-03-22T11:35:41 < ohsix> wut 2016-03-22T11:38:43 < dongs> not xmos for less jitter? 2016-03-22T11:39:45 < dongs> disqualified 2016-03-22T11:39:52 < dongs> only xmos is the best 2016-03-22T11:41:09 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-22T11:42:21 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T11:49:26 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/lgiTgh1.jpg 2016-03-22T11:55:09 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T11:55:43 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T11:56:08 < PeterM> fine, cleaned up most of the mob that would bash the shit out of the trees on the farm a few months back so the mob is probably only 5-6 instead of 30 2016-03-22T11:56:36 < PeterM> not at all practical for kangaroos, so no. 2016-03-22T11:57:45 < PeterM> nah just a 223 2016-03-22T11:57:50 < BrainDamage> obv the solution is to start farming alligators to get rid of them 2016-03-22T11:58:07 < BrainDamage> then farm something else to get rid of the alligators 2016-03-22T11:59:43 < BrainDamage> then gators is even better because straya is so scared about imported species 2016-03-22T11:59:54 < BrainDamage> as if something from outside can be worse than local endemic 2016-03-22T12:00:52 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T12:05:59 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T12:07:56 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-22T12:08:33 < ohsix> dongs: who makes these http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODc2WDEyNTU=/z/kt8AAOSw3xJVbGu2/$_1.JPG 2016-03-22T12:08:45 < ohsix> there's a number on the back 091118 2016-03-22T12:08:52 < ohsix> and 25, which is the number of key 2016-03-22T12:08:53 < ohsix> s 2016-03-22T12:09:05 < ohsix> some chinese i can't read, will get picture tomorrow 2016-03-22T12:09:49 < ohsix> doesn't take much force lifting it by the keys for it to break, and apparently someone did that, drano or someone who owned it before him 2016-03-22T12:10:24 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T12:16:40 -!- Emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T12:23:29 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T13:00:12 < dongs> BREAKING: Two explosions heard at Brussels International Airport; smoke rising from building; thousands being evacuated 2016-03-22T13:00:34 < dongs> BREAKING: New explosion occurs at Metro station in Brussels, near European Union HQ 2016-03-22T13:02:15 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-154-148.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T13:02:17 < jpa-> what is it breaking? 2016-03-22T13:02:19 < zyp> "BREAKING" 2016-03-22T13:02:25 < zyp> that news is hours old by now 2016-03-22T13:02:31 < jpa-> yep 2016-03-22T13:02:32 < dongs> sorry, my retweeter is late 2016-03-22T13:03:07 < jpa-> our goverment already tweeted "when thinking about brussels, remember racism that is happening every day!" 2016-03-22T13:04:36 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-154-148.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T13:06:21 < dongs> https://twitter.com/saeed_ahmed saeed ahmed did brussels 2016-03-22T13:06:48 < zyp> anybody here happen to have experience with dashcams? 2016-03-22T13:07:08 < jpa-> i've seen dashcam videos 2016-03-22T13:07:10 < dongs> i heard upgrdchinaman likes watching them 2016-03-22T13:07:12 < zyp> wondering what's good shit 2016-03-22T13:07:26 < jpa-> i wouldn't recommend getting one, they cause planes to fall and trucks to crash 2016-03-22T13:07:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T13:07:42 < zyp> jpa-, yeah, that's my motive 2016-03-22T13:07:43 < PeterM> zyp look at the youtube channel techmoan 2016-03-22T13:08:18 < PeterM> he has a few guides and many detailed reviews 2016-03-22T13:08:47 < zyp> I don't have time to sit through youtube reviews 2016-03-22T13:08:56 < zyp> but thanks for the suggestion 2016-03-22T13:09:16 < zyp> patience might be more approriate than time 2016-03-22T13:10:41 < zyp> BlackVue DR650GW seems to be popular here 2016-03-22T13:11:56 < PeterM> yes, its pretty good, and the vico marcus 3 is also pretty good 2016-03-22T13:14:06 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T13:19:49 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T13:34:47 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/283/436/de62a8155eb798772c600c13c95f5609_original.png?v=1454313551&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=4a380094a43795a54387179c4bc70b66 2016-03-22T13:36:17 < PeterM> i dun geddit 2016-03-22T13:47:24 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-22T13:48:30 < zyp> another kickstarter scam? 2016-03-22T13:48:53 < dongs> has to be 2016-03-22T13:48:56 < dongs> with so many blogs 2016-03-22T13:49:13 < zyp> the more logos you can find on a kickstarter page, the more likely it is to be a scam 2016-03-22T13:53:28 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T13:56:07 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-22T13:56:07 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-03-22T14:06:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-22T14:09:47 < rcc> when did the brusselles thing happend? 2016-03-22T14:09:58 < rcc> *brussels 2016-03-22T14:12:34 < rcc> dongs seems to always be up to date with the news 2016-03-22T14:13:21 < rewolff2> I was up at 7:45. 2016-03-22T14:13:32 < rcc> he can probably fit like... 10 news channels on his 4k display 2016-03-22T14:13:35 < rewolff2> Airport happened around 8:00, metro station around 9:00. 2016-03-22T14:13:48 < rcc> rewolff2, UTC? 2016-03-22T14:13:59 < rewolff2> No local time her. 2016-03-22T14:14:04 < rewolff2> *here. 2016-03-22T14:14:10 < rcc> where's here? :) 2016-03-22T14:14:12 < rewolff2> let me think... UTC +1. 2016-03-22T14:14:18 < rcc> got it 2016-03-22T14:14:24 < rcc> so quite early 2016-03-22T14:14:30 < rcc> I'm UTC+2 2016-03-22T14:14:30 < rewolff2> Here is 70km north of brussels. 2016-03-22T14:14:38 < rcc> damn 2016-03-22T14:15:11 < rewolff2> I'm not worrying. It's another country. :-) 2016-03-22T14:15:18 < rcc> haha 2016-03-22T14:15:28 < rcc> it's pretty bad 2016-03-22T14:16:12 < rewolff2> Yesterday we "celebrated" the 17 millionth dutch person..... 2016-03-22T14:16:36 < BrainDamage> even if i happened in my town i wouldn't worry 2016-03-22T14:16:38 < rewolff2> So if this happens every day, I have a chance of 1: one million of dying...... 2016-03-22T14:16:42 < rcc> I think there's going to be retaliation soon, but I don't know what form it will take 2016-03-22T14:17:04 < rcc> good reasoning rewolff2 2016-03-22T14:17:07 -!- rcc is now known as jadew 2016-03-22T14:17:29 < jadew> my new monitor arrived 2016-03-22T14:17:45 < jadew> much better than the 24" philips I returned 2016-03-22T14:18:11 < rewolff2> (there is a 1: 10^5 chance of dying on a plane flight (IIRC).... They like to claim 1: 10^8 per km, but as you generally travel 1000km or more in a plane.....) 2016-03-22T14:18:12 < jadew> but still shit compared to my ~10 years old displays 2016-03-22T14:18:43 < jadew> 1:10^5 is rather high 2016-03-22T14:19:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.145] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T14:19:33 < Sync> jadew: what screen did you get? 2016-03-22T14:19:58 < rewolff2> Fly twice a month, 24 times per year, 10^2 per four years, 10^3/40 years. So you get a 1% chance of dying in a plane crash in 40 years of regular flying. 2016-03-22T14:19:59 < jadew> Sync, Dell U2414H 2016-03-22T14:20:24 < jadew> it's easier to look at, but the screen is bright even when it only displays black 2016-03-22T14:20:40 < jadew> (even at the lowest brightness setting) 2016-03-22T14:20:45 < jadew> my old displays don't do that 2016-03-22T14:21:13 < Sync> yeah ips panels in them are not great 2016-03-22T14:21:15 < jadew> with the light off, if there's black on the screen they almost look like they're off 2016-03-22T14:25:44 < zyp> some panels cheat and turn down the backlight brightness when you display dark shit 2016-03-22T14:25:48 < zyp> "dynamic contrast"" 2016-03-22T14:26:19 < jadew> not these 2016-03-22T14:26:30 < jadew> they're too old for anything fancy like that 2016-03-22T14:27:09 < jadew> on the other hand on the new display I was able to almost match the color temperature to what I had on my old ones 2016-03-22T14:27:25 < jadew> (it has a paper mode) 2016-03-22T14:27:37 < jadew> so it's very easy on the eyes 2016-03-22T14:28:35 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-22T14:29:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T14:38:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.17] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T14:39:18 < englishman> how many roos got run over at f1 this year? 2016-03-22T14:40:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T14:48:44 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T14:50:51 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Quit: ] 2016-03-22T14:53:18 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T15:01:48 < gxti> dongs: pin stacking? the stupid trick to make a schmatic part that wires pins together? 2016-03-22T15:24:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T15:36:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T15:38:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T15:39:49 < Laurenceb_> https://developers.slashdot.org/story/16/03/22/0631212/one-million-school-children-to-get-free-bbc-microbit-computers 2016-03-22T15:40:05 < Laurenceb_> in Northern Ireland they are a year slower 2016-03-22T15:43:39 < Laurenceb_> yeah but not stm32 2016-03-22T15:44:06 < Laurenceb_> nxp I think 2016-03-22T15:44:29 < Laurenceb_> Looks like those Christians or Buddhists struck again in Brussels 2016-03-22T15:44:32 < BrainDamage> wait until they make tarduino libs for it 2016-03-22T15:44:41 < Laurenceb_> or maybe it was atheists 2016-03-22T15:44:43 < BrainDamage> then it's 1 generation ruined 2016-03-22T15:45:14 < Laurenceb_> fedora bombs 2016-03-22T15:46:06 -!- kow [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T15:46:07 < Laurenceb_> actually... the photo shows a failmega 2016-03-22T15:46:10 < Laurenceb_> I'm confused 2016-03-22T15:46:28 < Laurenceb_> "The BBC Micro Bit prototype will be finished by autumn. " lol maybe they haven't decided yet 2016-03-22T15:49:03 < Laurenceb_> manufacturing and distribution partners on the project include Barclays, Freescale, Microsoft, Nordic Semiconductor, Samsung, element14, ScienceScope and Technology Will Save Us. 2016-03-22T15:49:10 < Laurenceb_> maybe freescale then 2016-03-22T15:49:17 < Laurenceb_> lulwut @ last one 2016-03-22T15:54:00 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T15:54:10 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T15:54:31 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T16:02:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-22T16:12:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T16:13:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T16:14:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-22T16:16:27 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T16:18:25 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T16:19:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T16:22:23 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T16:23:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T16:26:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-22T16:42:13 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-22T16:51:07 < artag> it's a nordic chip with a freescale debug controller 2016-03-22T16:52:33 < artag> sciencescope and twsu are probably the most sane on the project. they actually know something about schools. Microsoft are why it's so late 2016-03-22T16:58:00 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-22T17:02:34 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:10:41 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T17:10:58 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:13:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:34:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:35:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-22T17:35:51 < Laurenceb> 3/22/2016 2016-03-22T17:35:51 < Laurenceb> 3+2+2+2+1+6 = 16 = 1 + 6 = 7 2016-03-22T17:35:51 < Laurenceb> the jews did this 2016-03-22T17:36:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T17:36:29 < Laurenceb> evidence is beyond doubt 2016-03-22T17:37:58 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@ip-86-49-106-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:40:12 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:43:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T17:45:33 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:46:30 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T17:46:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T17:48:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T17:50:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:51:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T17:53:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T17:57:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T18:01:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T18:02:30 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@ip-86-49-106-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T18:03:39 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T18:09:39 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T18:13:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-22T18:13:54 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T18:24:31 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-22T18:32:50 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T18:37:49 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T18:52:02 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T18:58:43 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/svj7aDz 2016-03-22T18:58:47 < Laurenceb> too soon? 2016-03-22T18:59:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T18:59:45 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/csehZAm.jpg 2016-03-22T19:02:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T19:05:06 < qyx> ok, driving a 1:2 mosfet gate transformer directly using a GPIO pin is apparently a stupid idea 2016-03-22T19:05:42 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T19:05:52 < Sync> no shit qyx 2016-03-22T19:06:19 < Laurenceb> if you stick a resistor in there it should be fine 2016-03-22T19:06:21 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T19:06:28 < qyx> it is not 2016-03-22T19:06:43 < qyx> not enough current to properly charge the gate 2016-03-22T19:06:52 < Laurenceb> using pwm or something? 2016-03-22T19:06:56 < qyx> yes 2016-03-22T19:06:59 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-03-22T19:07:15 < rewolff2> In general people use a chip called "gate driver" to drive a gate. 2016-03-22T19:07:27 < qyx> in general yes 2016-03-22T19:07:40 < Laurenceb> I've never needed one 2016-03-22T19:07:40 < qyx> I am trying to get rid of the secondary side supply 2016-03-22T19:07:52 < Laurenceb> but I've never done very high power 2016-03-22T19:08:06 < rewolff2> Those tend to be able to supply 200 (old ones like ir21xx) to 1.0A (LM5109?) to even more nowadays. (I remember coming across a 2A one, but don't remember the name). 2016-03-22T19:08:23 < qyx> yes, but no isolation 2016-03-22T19:08:33 < rewolff2> *200 -> 200mA. 2016-03-22T19:08:47 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T19:08:51 < qyx> if you want isolated drive, you have use fancy optocouplers or iCouplers or whatever 2016-03-22T19:08:57 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T19:09:17 < qyx> and in that case you also need a dc-dc isolated supply for the gate driver 2016-03-22T19:09:31 < qyx> another approach is to use low-side gate driver and 1:1 gate transformer 2016-03-22T19:12:20 < qyx> I tried to abuse ethernet transformer for that, but no worky 2016-03-22T19:12:25 < qyx> not enough primary inductance 2016-03-22T19:12:46 < qyx> toroid core with trifilar winding works much better 2016-03-22T19:14:12 < Sync> or a commercial GDT 2016-03-22T19:14:25 < Sync> the problem is it limits you to 50% on time 2016-03-22T19:14:32 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-22T19:14:50 < qyx> I need exactly 50% 2016-03-22T19:14:53 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T19:18:41 < Laurenceb> wow this is cheap http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-new-ICU-CCU-Patient-Monitor-6-parameter-Vital-Sign-ECG-NIBP-RESP-TEMP-SPO2-PR/111405401324?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3Dd02971b827bc449c928e8f43ed788b9d%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D321813066803 2016-03-22T19:18:49 < Laurenceb> stupid url is stupid 2016-03-22T19:23:07 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T19:23:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-22T19:24:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.237] has joined ##stm32 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Laurenceb> lol schematic on the packet is wrong 2016-03-22T21:47:00 < Steffanx> blogging. 2016-03-22T21:47:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T21:48:08 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T21:49:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T21:49:15 < gxti> i'm using a gate driver that peaks 6 amps i think... 2016-03-22T21:49:21 < gxti> pretty weird use case though 2016-03-22T21:54:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T21:56:27 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T21:56:31 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/lwGmSbK.webm 2016-03-22T21:58:19 -!- Jegeva [~Jegeva@94-225-160-208.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T21:58:19 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-22T21:58:37 -!- Jegeva [~Jegeva@94-225-160-208.access.telenet.be] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T21:59:43 < PeterM> qyx often you can get away wiht using a non isolated driver, power it from that side and just isolate the driver signals with some optos - depending on the application you may needs some compensation 2016-03-22T22:04:19 < PeterM> you can also use a totempole with bjts or fets to buffer your micros pin 2016-03-22T22:07:55 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T22:10:03 < PeterM> bss84 + bss138 are quite fast and should be sufficient 2016-03-22T22:12:29 < qyx> PeterM: the problem is that 315V capable gate driver ICs are quite slow 2016-03-22T22:12:35 < qyx> things like ir2101 2016-03-22T22:12:58 < qyx> or more like 10 years old 2016-03-22T22:14:17 < qyx> I am just donging around like kakimir 2016-03-22T22:14:49 < PeterM> really, i thoguht last time i looked there were 3a/3a ones 2016-03-22T22:15:11 < qyx> http://www.datasheetarchive.com/files/international-rectifier/docs/wcd0000c/wcd00c2d.gif 2016-03-22T22:15:15 < qyx> I will try this one 2016-03-22T22:17:39 < PeterM> what kind of rise/fall times are you looking for on your fet? 2016-03-22T22:19:02 < qyx> it depends if I will do hard switching or zvs 2016-03-22T22:19:09 < qyx> ~150kHz 2016-03-22T22:19:33 < qyx> I have never done sich converter before, so probably trial&error approach 2016-03-22T22:20:31 < PeterM> fair nuff. http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irs21867spbf.pdf are pretty cheap if you can deal with the propogation delay http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irs21867spbf.pdf 2016-03-22T22:21:23 < gxti> i'm doing a 28mhz switcher. it's to make RF hence the high frequency. stm32 inside but not sure which yet... really just doing i2c crap 2016-03-22T22:21:44 < gxti> GaN fet. kind of nutty, no idea if it'll work 2016-03-22T22:22:22 < PeterM> gxti, not gonna find a gate drivers suitable for that imho. 2016-03-22T22:22:31 < PeterM> yeah gan fets low gate charge 2016-03-22T22:22:42 < gxti> lm5134, and two other candidates 2016-03-22T22:22:46 < gxti> not many though 2016-03-22T22:22:58 < gxti> and again i'm still not sure if it'll work. only one way to find out. 2016-03-22T22:23:17 < qyx> not on stock at farnell :S 2016-03-22T22:24:03 < PeterM> low side? you doign a 28mhz boost converter or? 2016-03-22T22:27:50 < gxti> class E rf amplifier (more of a generator really) 2016-03-22T22:28:52 < gxti> http://partiallystapled.com/~gxti/radio/2016/03/21-ebeacon.png 2016-03-22T22:29:59 < gxti> it simulates well, the gate driver is probably the biggest risk 2016-03-22T22:30:55 < gxti> oh derp, c9 and c10 should be in parallel. thanks ##stm32 for helping 2016-03-22T22:35:25 < Laurenceb> is there a way to manually set DTR in linux? 2016-03-22T22:37:13 < gxti> don't know of a tool offhand. pyserial is pretty easy to use... 2016-03-22T22:39:16 < Laurenceb> annoying 2016-03-22T22:39:28 < gxti> serial ports are usually annoying yes 2016-03-22T22:43:15 -!- goebish [~goebish@ns369919.ip-91-121-205.eu] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-22T22:43:37 -!- goebish [~goebish@ns369919.ip-91-121-205.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T22:46:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T22:52:48 < kakimir> hah youtubes has ad every 10minutes 2016-03-22T22:57:18 < Laurenceb> woo STEVAL modes work 2016-03-22T22:57:29 < Laurenceb> using DTR and RTS to enter and exit command mode 2016-03-22T22:57:43 < Laurenceb> perman00b TDMA should be possible 2016-03-22T23:00:46 < Laurenceb> bbl 2016-03-22T23:08:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T23:10:52 < ohsix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/olo3d/olo-the-first-ever-smartphone-3d-printer 2016-03-22T23:19:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-22T23:21:17 < mitrax> oh yeah ... great, assuming the shit even works as advertised you can't use your phone answer calls etc when it's printing ... and it takes 4 hours to print that lame ball wireframe 2016-03-22T23:21:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.107.89] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-22T23:22:52 < BrainDamage> i only glanced trough it, is it using the phone screen for stereolitography? 2016-03-22T23:22:59 < mitrax> yep 2016-03-22T23:24:04 < BrainDamage> how do they compensate for different screen characteristics? each screen has different divergence, contrast, etc 2016-03-22T23:24:23 < BrainDamage> and not all of those are going to be programmatically availble to the os 2016-03-22T23:24:44 < BrainDamage> they'd need a giant db of phones in oder to be reliable across different devices 2016-03-22T23:25:20 < BrainDamage> otherwise you'd have a small whitelist of phones where it's ok, and meh to terrible at rest 2016-03-22T23:26:01 < mitrax> it'll probably be terrible with any phone 2016-03-22T23:26:56 -!- Jegeva [~Jegeva@94-225-160-208.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-22T23:26:57 < mitrax> plus i can already here the complaints from users whose phone got ruined because the resin leaked into the mic or speaker holes 2016-03-22T23:29:20 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-22T23:29:41 < ohsix> you just need an lcd you can put a picture on, people have cellphones, old ones, would get ones to have an slt printer 2016-03-22T23:29:58 < PaulFertser> Funny how Patents come before Engineering on their timeline, Firmware and Testing ends before Electronics, Certification starts long before Engineering ends etc. Total BS. 2016-03-22T23:30:00 < ohsix> it looks like they have a gasket for speakers and stuff, and probably a sticker to put on the phone 2016-03-22T23:30:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-50ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-22T23:30:36 < mitrax> ohsix: a sticker that you put and remove each time? some people will forget, doesn't sound practical at all 2016-03-22T23:30:52 < ohsix> they've got other problems to worry about 2016-03-22T23:31:18 < ohsix> i didn't look too close at the images either, there could be a membrane on the top half that holds the goo entirely 2016-03-22T23:31:36 < ohsix> the bit that sits on t he phone rather 2016-03-22T23:31:40 < ohsix> bb 2016-03-22T23:31:41 < ohsix> l --- Day changed Wed Mar 23 2016 2016-03-23T00:00:04 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T00:01:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:e83e:f246:d829:f9a0] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T00:03:15 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T00:06:03 < kakimir> Laurenceb: http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/full/142687.jpg 2016-03-23T00:11:14 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-23T00:18:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T00:25:07 < Laurenceb_> sup 2016-03-23T00:25:21 < Laurenceb_> SP1ML command line interface is a little sucky 2016-03-23T00:25:39 < Laurenceb_> it will accept hex inputs in place of numerical and visa versa 2016-03-23T00:25:52 < Laurenceb_> yet the settings dont actually work if you do that 2016-03-23T00:26:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T00:26:12 < Laurenceb_> also no way to send broadcast or multicast, but it can be configured to receive 2016-03-23T00:26:13 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-03-23T00:26:55 < Laurenceb_> otherwise this thing pwns - 5km free space range at 200kbps 2016-03-23T00:27:18 < Laurenceb_> well in theory, I plan to test that at some point 2016-03-23T00:27:53 < BrainDamage> what mode is it? lora? 2016-03-23T00:28:20 < Laurenceb_> 2FSK 2016-03-23T00:28:41 < Laurenceb_> original and best 2016-03-23T00:28:59 < mitrax> 5km for only +11dbm? no way 2016-03-23T00:30:53 < Laurenceb_> HAB record is about 1000km for +10dBm 2016-03-23T00:31:28 < BrainDamage> the speed is sliiiiightly slower 2016-03-23T00:32:02 < mitrax> what kind of antenna are we talking about? 2016-03-23T00:32:51 < mitrax> is that for your rocket thing? 2016-03-23T00:32:51 < Laurenceb_> ceramic chip 2016-03-23T00:33:02 < Laurenceb_> mitrax: no this is a work project 2016-03-23T00:33:13 < Laurenceb_> telemetry from racehorses 2016-03-23T00:33:19 < mitrax> oh 2016-03-23T00:33:36 < Laurenceb_> I'm just thinking it'd be good for UAV stuff 2016-03-23T00:33:43 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-23T00:33:46 < Laurenceb_> maybe as a taulabs add on 2016-03-23T00:33:53 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T00:36:16 < mitrax> i'd be interested to know what range you get... cause 5km at 200kbps that sounds unrealistic to me 2016-03-23T00:36:36 < mitrax> i mean with 11dbm in a ceramic antenna 2016-03-23T00:36:55 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-03-23T00:37:25 < Laurenceb_> well ground to ground my propagation sim gives 450m to 850m range 2016-03-23T00:37:33 < Laurenceb_> this is ground to air range 2016-03-23T00:39:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-23T00:40:02 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-23T00:40:13 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T00:47:28 < mitrax> propagation is one thing... i wouldn't take that range for granted for actual decoding of a possibly degraded signal due to noise and shit 2016-03-23T00:49:33 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-23T00:49:50 < Laurenceb_> the integrated front end filter/matching looks interesting 2016-03-23T00:50:15 < Laurenceb_> I've decapped one of the modules to take a look - looks like chip on glass flip chip BGA 2016-03-23T00:55:20 < mitrax> gaaaah of course they HAD to include nazi references in the last starwars 2016-03-23T00:55:31 < mitrax> boring 2016-03-23T01:11:07 < kakimir> I think driving bldc looks really trivial 2016-03-23T01:11:18 < kakimir> I need someone to depress me, GO 2016-03-23T01:12:01 < kakimir> TI has that integration thing for backemf 2016-03-23T01:12:43 < kakimir> I don't remember clearly name of that technology 2016-03-23T01:13:46 < kakimir> you pump texas? 2016-03-23T01:13:55 < kakimir> for a job 2016-03-23T01:14:30 < kakimir> infiltrate to competitor channels and pump some brand 2016-03-23T01:14:38 < kakimir> like I do 2016-03-23T01:14:51 < kakimir> not as a job though 2016-03-23T01:20:07 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szgVUfyX8JM this video is about that solution 2016-03-23T01:24:26 < kakimir> true 2016-03-23T01:24:35 < kakimir> every manufacturer has reference design 2016-03-23T01:24:37 < kakimir> and code 2016-03-23T01:24:44 < kakimir> just throw it together 2016-03-23T01:24:53 < kakimir> happy drivings 2016-03-23T01:25:53 < kakimir> this texas thing is superior to some solutions 2016-03-23T01:26:13 * ds2 shakes fist at the damn programmers who think variables should reflect the usage 2016-03-23T01:26:38 < kakimir> ds2: preffer random naming? 2016-03-23T01:26:42 < ds2> yes 2016-03-23T01:26:52 < kakimir> kebab1 kebab2 2016-03-23T01:27:00 < ds2> just blew 30 minutes cuz someone decided to use a misleading name 2016-03-23T01:27:09 < ds2> random would have avoided that all together 2016-03-23T01:27:26 < kakimir> you are trying to say not to use misleading names 2016-03-23T01:27:32 < kakimir> and be a dick 2016-03-23T01:27:39 < kakimir> *not be 2016-03-23T01:27:40 < ds2> I am saying not to use descriptive names. 2016-03-23T01:28:05 < ds2> random ones would sort itself out with a simple search instead of sending someone down the wrong path 2016-03-23T01:28:19 < kakimir> descriptive names are the best.. write 50charracted name to describe function of variable 2016-03-23T01:28:52 < kakimir> I actually done that 2016-03-23T01:29:34 < kakimir> emh.. not 50char but you get the idea 2016-03-23T01:31:00 < kakimir> poetry using underline as punctuation 2016-03-23T01:34:30 < kakimir> I wonder how heavy licensing that instaspin technology have 2016-03-23T01:34:42 < kakimir> if you do it on let's say stm32 2016-03-23T01:36:01 < ohsix> just don't call it instaspin 2016-03-23T01:36:13 < ohsix> it's just a trade name for something they want to obscure ;D 2016-03-23T01:38:10 < kakimir> and their piece o softare is licenced 2016-03-23T01:38:16 < Laurenceb_> how do I files https://github.com/nickgillian/grt/blob/master/gui/GRT/qcustomplot.cpp 2016-03-23T01:38:20 < ohsix> ReadError: harbor fr8 has some ok bench vises 2016-03-23T01:38:26 < Laurenceb_> 22k lines O_o 2016-03-23T01:38:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T01:38:28 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yguspqpohvflveus] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-23T01:38:53 < ReadError> ohsix i would never buy tools from HF 2016-03-23T01:38:56 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: have you yet wound any limitation to QT? 2016-03-23T01:38:59 < ReadError> I like quality 2016-03-23T01:39:00 < kakimir> Qt 2016-03-23T01:39:07 < ohsix> ReadError: they're chunks of steel bro 2016-03-23T01:39:09 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: nope 2016-03-23T01:39:31 < Laurenceb_> it works nicely but the learning curve is steep and documentation is a bit lame in places 2016-03-23T01:39:59 < ohsix> http://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-half-inch-table-swivel-vise-97160.html there's a vacuum one and a drill press like one that's useful for holding pcbs 2016-03-23T01:40:29 < zyp> Qt is probably the nicest gui framework around 2016-03-23T01:40:45 < zyp> at least I haven't used any I like better 2016-03-23T01:41:13 < ohsix> ReadError: heh there are some in here that could turn a drill press into a little mill 2016-03-23T01:41:17 < Laurenceb_> it def better than wxwidgets in python 2016-03-23T01:41:51 < ohsix> probably suck but if you only have space for a drill press :p 2016-03-23T01:41:52 < Laurenceb_> not if you lie about what you use it for 2016-03-23T01:41:56 < zyp> the moc-shit for C++ feels kinda outdated compared to libsigc++ or whatever that thing they use in gtkmm was called 2016-03-23T01:42:27 < zyp> but the python bindings are nice 2016-03-23T01:42:36 < zyp> I mean, hell, even the java bindings are usable 2016-03-23T01:42:54 < zyp> (used those in java course in uni) 2016-03-23T01:43:24 < Laurenceb_> eek java 2016-03-23T01:43:53 < ohsix> qt has lots of marketing material to read R2COM2 2016-03-23T01:44:30 < ohsix> they'll usually provide their best case for 'good about fucking qt' 2016-03-23T01:44:42 < Laurenceb_> well with Qt I can make a gui without raging and smashing my pc 2016-03-23T01:44:44 < Laurenceb_> win for me 2016-03-23T01:44:57 < ohsix> qt is a rage enabler 2016-03-23T01:46:07 < Laurenceb_> but I can't work out what the reverse of setText is :-/ 2016-03-23T01:46:26 < zyp> .text? 2016-03-23T01:46:30 < Laurenceb_> maybe setText("") lol 2016-03-23T01:46:42 < zyp> reverse in what sense? 2016-03-23T01:46:46 < Laurenceb_> I want to make a text annotation temporarily invisible 2016-03-23T01:46:48 < ohsix> undo text putting 2016-03-23T01:46:52 < Laurenceb_> reverse was the wrong term 2016-03-23T01:47:00 < Laurenceb_> lol sorry 2016-03-23T01:47:00 < zyp> Laurenceb_, on what object? 2016-03-23T01:47:10 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: if there are setters the reverse is usually a getter 2016-03-23T01:47:16 < Laurenceb_> textLabeltop->setText(txt_top.left(txt_top.size()-1)); 2016-03-23T01:47:19 < zyp> ohsix, that's what I also thought 2016-03-23T01:47:37 < zyp> Laurenceb_, what class? QLabel? 2016-03-23T01:47:53 < Laurenceb_> so thats how I set some text, what do I do to make it dissapear, but keep a reference so I can add more text easily in future 2016-03-23T01:47:58 < zyp> from documentation it also has a clear() methdo 2016-03-23T01:48:15 < Laurenceb_> QCPItemText *textLabelbottom; 2016-03-23T01:48:20 < zyp> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qlabel.html#clear 2016-03-23T01:48:23 < Laurenceb_> ah, thanks 2016-03-23T01:48:44 < zyp> hmm, QCP is third party stuff 2016-03-23T01:49:11 < Laurenceb_> yeah I'm not sure if it reuses other stuff :-S time to search through the source 2016-03-23T01:49:21 < zyp> QCPItemText doesn't seem to have clear() 2016-03-23T01:49:53 < zyp> so I guess setText("") is fair enough 2016-03-23T01:49:59 < zyp> if it does what you need it to 2016-03-23T01:50:05 < Laurenceb_> line 20045 https://github.com/nickgillian/grt/blob/master/gui/GRT/qcustomplot.cpp 2016-03-23T01:50:13 < Laurenceb_> lets find out 2016-03-23T01:50:56 < zyp> >20k lines source file, fuck yeah! 2016-03-23T01:51:02 < zyp> (fuck the author) 2016-03-23T01:53:52 < Laurenceb_> aiui its so its easy to use - c&p then just one file to include 2016-03-23T01:54:11 < Laurenceb_> seems to work but there are so many other bugs in my code... 2016-03-23T01:54:17 < Laurenceb_> I'll stop spamming lol 2016-03-23T01:55:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T01:56:45 < Laurenceb_> unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful 2016-03-23T01:59:00 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-23T02:04:02 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/DZcYr36 accurate 2016-03-23T02:07:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-23T02:23:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T02:23:35 < dongs> gxti: yes 2016-03-23T02:23:41 < Laurenceb_> oh shit 2016-03-23T02:23:52 < Laurenceb_> I missed emdrive documentart on bbc 2016-03-23T02:24:00 < dongs> < zyp> the more logos you can find on a kickstarter page, the more likely it is to be a scam 2016-03-23T02:24:03 < dongs> pretty much 2016-03-23T02:24:08 < Laurenceb_> status: checking blogz for torrent 2016-03-23T02:25:36 < dongs> gxti: got it to work tho. basically what you said i think, i took one pin and left it visible, then stacked, 2,3,4 on top with designator and comment hidden. tho I guess to get 1,2,3,4 to show up in designator I'll need to hide all "real" ones and put a dummy one wiht 1,2,3,4 there but not sure how thats gonna work w/footprint 2016-03-23T02:29:09 < dongs> oh, 1,2,3 is just a text label. 2016-03-23T02:29:11 < dongs> 'kay 2016-03-23T02:29:13 < dongs> lolz. 2016-03-23T02:29:23 < dongs> NOT EVEN 2016-03-23T02:29:27 < dongs> such pro soft 2016-03-23T02:29:30 < dongs> im sure orcad can do way better. 2016-03-23T02:35:54 < dongs> language code for Flemish is "dum" 2016-03-23T02:36:21 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzyhbkwybagxubrx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T02:40:41 < gxti> dongs: yes. is dumb. 2016-03-23T02:41:03 < gxti> i'd rather leave one visible than put a text label because the text label doesn't flow when you rotate the part 2016-03-23T02:45:48 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-23T02:46:03 < dongs> but if you make one visible, it has to be just one of those designators 2016-03-23T02:46:08 < dongs> you cantg name it 1,2,3,4 2016-03-23T02:46:11 < dongs> cuz it wont amtch wiht pads. 2016-03-23T02:47:28 < kakimir> if I calculate seperatelly ohmic losses for bldc 2016-03-23T02:47:52 < kakimir> do I need to do any efficiency based correction to power in addition to that 2016-03-23T02:48:36 < kakimir> or is the ohmic loss actually the inefficiency 2016-03-23T02:48:39 < kakimir> isn't it 2016-03-23T02:48:43 < dongs> subohmic losses 2016-03-23T02:48:45 < dongs> vape nation 2016-03-23T02:48:53 < kakimir> vape your motors 2016-03-23T02:49:29 < kakimir> sure 2016-03-23T02:49:37 < kakimir> just vaporize it 2016-03-23T02:49:40 < kakimir> and then 2016-03-23T02:49:51 < kakimir> inhale the vapes 2016-03-23T02:50:45 < ReadError> so high 2016-03-23T02:50:56 < ReadError> lil GHB in the mix too 2016-03-23T02:51:07 < ReadError> gotta get that HGH pumpin 2016-03-23T02:51:30 < kakimir> enought GHB in the mix 2016-03-23T02:52:02 < ReadError> wat 2016-03-23T03:04:55 < kakimir> what is G? 2016-03-23T03:11:20 < kakimir> I wonder if 80g brushless in slowflyier will thake close to 40W of ohmic heat 2016-03-23T03:11:40 < kakimir> inside the slowflyer fuselage without forced ventilation but just some holes 2016-03-23T03:12:05 < kakimir> maybe streamline those holes so it actually suck 2016-03-23T03:19:14 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-23T03:21:35 < ColdKeyboard> What's the best way to store 16byte array on chip that will be preserved during power off? 2016-03-23T03:23:30 < kakimir> like backup block? 2016-03-23T03:23:35 < kakimir> vbat powered? 2016-03-23T03:24:10 < kakimir> just write it to flash if you can? 2016-03-23T03:24:10 < ColdKeyboard> No, I need it to be backed up completely. Like in flash or something like that 2016-03-23T03:24:29 < kakimir> what is the issue then? 2016-03-23T03:24:35 < ColdKeyboard> How often and how fast can I write at flash? 2016-03-23T03:25:46 < kakimir> well it's bad idea to keep updated value in flash 2016-03-23T03:25:57 < kakimir> *values 2016-03-23T03:26:29 < ohsix> find more stuff to store so you don't waste an entire erase block on it 2016-03-23T03:26:33 < ohsix> round robin 2016-03-23T03:26:41 < ohsix> otherwise find a smarter ftl thing that tries to do a bit more 2016-03-23T03:28:22 < ColdKeyboard> Would it be a terrible idea to use something like this unsigned char *data_ptr = (unsigned char*)0x1000000; 2016-03-23T03:28:40 < ColdKeyboard> And then just update data_ptr[0-16] values? 2016-03-23T03:29:08 < ColdKeyboard> Or is it just allowed for reading flash addresses? 2016-03-23T03:29:09 < ohsix> you can write a monotonic count across a few erase pages and scan for the highest next time you load it, then go to the next when you store it; find out what the flash is rated for, it'll be like 100k writes, take how often you must do it, see how many years that is 2016-03-23T03:29:15 < ohsix> find out how many years it has to be reliable for 2016-03-23T03:30:14 < ohsix> it's probabl ynot forever, and you can find out what it is if you use one sector, then just use n sectors 2016-03-23T03:31:30 < ColdKeyboard> Thanks for the idea! I'll try to figure out how to implement it now. 2016-03-23T03:32:12 < kakimir> wait what is the motor voltage that does the jubs 2016-03-23T03:32:24 < kakimir> is it equeals to backemf? 2016-03-23T03:32:52 < kakimir> when you try to calclucate powers 2016-03-23T03:32:56 < ohsix> the part you have might also have eeprom and it has different tradeoffs 2016-03-23T03:33:56 < ohsix> also consider low power modes that preserve a few words of sram, you can compare that battery life to the endurance of the flash, battery might win 2016-03-23T03:37:12 < ColdKeyboard> ohsix I'm using STM32F072RB so it doesn't have any EEPROM. I guess I can implement it in flash and then have a separate function that will store values in "eeprom" just when I want to or when user specificaly say "Ok, save this values because I'm about to shut down this device, or these are the values I would like to have a backup of" :) 2016-03-23T03:37:49 < ohsix> werd 2016-03-23T03:38:25 < ohsix> looks like st has a thing you can use http://www.st.com/web/en/resource/technical/document/application_note/CD00165693.pdf 2016-03-23T03:38:31 < ohsix> probably not the only appnote about it, just first i saw 2016-03-23T03:40:27 < ohsix> you can store the number of sectors erased as you rewrite them as some sort of wear indicator if you want to know when it's about to reach the specified write cycles or something 2016-03-23T03:41:35 < ohsix> the l0 cores have some pretty low power power states 2016-03-23T03:41:52 < ohsix> ah nm 2016-03-23T03:42:15 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@95.233.72.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-23T03:43:28 < ColdKeyboard> It's not a criticall to have that option but I would consider it a feature if device would remmember PWM values after the power is turned off/on. :) 2016-03-23T03:43:45 < ColdKeyboard> Also, what is the easiest/best way to access the 96-bit UID of the chip? 2016-03-23T03:43:59 < ohsix> don't you just read it? 2016-03-23T03:44:11 < ColdKeyboard> I see that he base address is location at 0x1FFF F7AC 2016-03-23T03:47:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-23T03:48:07 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T03:49:04 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T03:49:04 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-23T03:49:04 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T03:54:13 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-23T03:57:39 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T04:08:08 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.117] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-23T04:24:17 < kakimir> I wonder if 42% total efficiency for electric propelling is good for slow 1kg glider 2016-03-23T04:24:47 < kakimir> 58% wasted energy 2016-03-23T04:27:40 < kakimir> I need to oversize more the prop 2016-03-23T04:27:44 < kakimir> make it size of the plane 2016-03-23T04:33:41 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-23T04:34:00 < kakimir> prop I had lost efficiency just in the velocity range of the glider 2016-03-23T04:35:13 < kakimir> it has like edge right up at maximum speed 2016-03-23T04:35:20 < kakimir> of the glider 2016-03-23T04:36:03 < ColdKeyboard> How do I read the 96bit UID? I tried something like this but it doesn't work. MCU freezes after trying to read the data 2016-03-23T04:36:07 < ColdKeyboard> #define STM32_UUID ((uint32_t *)0x1FFF7A10) 2016-03-23T04:36:15 < ColdKeyboard> uint32_t idPart1 = STM32_UUID[0]; 2016-03-23T04:36:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T04:41:40 < englishman> close but no cigar 2016-03-23T04:43:10 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: sounds quite poor 2016-03-23T04:43:47 < Laurenceb_> hmm that reminds me, I was going to write a paper on container freight via supermassive airship 2016-03-23T04:44:02 < Laurenceb_> I was getting >85% prop efficiency in sims for that project 2016-03-23T04:46:09 * Laurenceb_ is too depressed by the whole scientific publishing thing to bother any more 2016-03-23T04:47:10 < ColdKeyboard> Can someone help me with reading devices unique ID? :\ 2016-03-23T04:47:37 < Laurenceb_> you do 18 months of cat herding trying to organise co-authors only for the journal to reject it 2016-03-23T04:49:45 < Laurenceb_> what could possibly go wrong http://imgur.com/IRdghID 2016-03-23T04:49:54 < englishman> ColdKeyboard: whered you get that address from? 2016-03-23T04:50:07 < englishman> my 072 datasheet has different 2016-03-23T04:50:22 < ColdKeyboard> Datasheet page 933 2016-03-23T04:50:33 < englishman> im there 2016-03-23T04:50:33 < ColdKeyboard> Base address: 0x1FFF F7AC 2016-03-23T04:50:41 < englishman> right 2016-03-23T04:51:22 < englishman> copypaste fail? 2016-03-23T04:51:24 * ColdKeyboard facepalms... 2016-03-23T04:51:29 < englishman> canadians 2016-03-23T04:51:46 < englishman> also its a unique id not a UUID 2016-03-23T04:52:05 < ColdKeyboard> Thanks 2016-03-23T04:52:16 < ColdKeyboard> It's 4AM and I need to go to sleep badly :) 2016-03-23T04:52:29 < englishman> oh i thought you were canadian 2016-03-23T04:52:46 < englishman> maybe that was FrozenKeyboard 2016-03-23T04:53:01 < englishman> no excuses, then 2016-03-23T04:53:08 < ColdKeyboard> I'm moving to Canada in 10 days :) 2016-03-23T04:53:13 < englishman> sorry to hear that 2016-03-23T04:53:28 < englishman> have you already found a good moose rifle 2016-03-23T04:53:42 < ColdKeyboard> I'm not sorry. I'm moving from Serbia :) 2016-03-23T04:54:09 < ColdKeyboard> Nah, I'll just show him my code, he will cry himself to death :) 2016-03-23T04:54:13 < englishman> oh neato 2016-03-23T04:54:21 < englishman> bring some plum wine 2016-03-23T04:55:57 < ColdKeyboard> I will. I'm not sure if "rakija" gets under the wine category but then again I don't know how would I categorise it... :) 2016-03-23T04:56:21 < englishman> plum brandy, im not picky 2016-03-23T04:59:38 < ColdKeyboard> I know a guy who makes "rakija" from banannas, pears, peaches, plums... They all have a quite nice taste. :) 2016-03-23T05:00:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-23T05:03:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T05:04:26 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-23T05:09:15 < englishman> where you headed to? 2016-03-23T05:15:33 < Laurenceb_> ColdKeyboard http://imgur.com/DZcYr36 2016-03-23T05:15:56 < ColdKeyboard> englishman Toronto 2016-03-23T05:16:28 < englishman> cool, the t-dot is great, i guess you already have work ready 2016-03-23T05:16:55 < englishman> Laurenceb_: thats accurate except replace the bloc with an empty square 2016-03-23T05:17:03 < Laurenceb_> I have a cousin in Toronto, he works in fire department 2016-03-23T05:17:11 < ColdKeyboard> englishman, I have few interviews arranged. Hope one of them will land a job. :) 2016-03-23T05:17:30 < Laurenceb_> so if he saves you, you have to pay me 2016-03-23T05:17:39 < ColdKeyboard> Laurenceb_ I'm not yet there so I don't get that image. Also I have aversion towards politics :) 2016-03-23T05:18:07 < englishman> for sure you will, if you can speak and write 10 words in english and know the difference between raspberry pi 1 and 2 2016-03-23T05:18:18 < Laurenceb_> only part time, rest of the time he does some sort of weird massage shit 2016-03-23T05:18:20 < Laurenceb_> no homo 2016-03-23T05:19:55 < ColdKeyboard> englishman, I'll let you know how it goes. If those are the requirements then my grandmom can apply for a job. :) 2016-03-23T05:20:36 < englishman> be prepared for density and high prices :) 2016-03-23T05:21:54 < ColdKeyboard> I will :) 2016-03-23T05:23:07 < Laurenceb_> at least Canadian food is better than US 2016-03-23T05:23:13 < englishman> omfg yes 2016-03-23T05:23:20 < Laurenceb_> US is kind of like UK with really shit food 2016-03-23T05:23:34 < Laurenceb_> and mains water thats piped direct from local river with 0 treatment 2016-03-23T05:24:05 < Laurenceb_> first time I went to US I was like "I heard the water is bad.. but surely its drinkable" 2016-03-23T05:24:08 < englishman> plz blog about serbian adventures in canada 2016-03-23T05:24:15 < Laurenceb_> then I spat out the pond water 2016-03-23T05:24:26 < Laurenceb_> never been to aus, plane is too expensive 2016-03-23T05:25:18 < Sync> go there by boat 2016-03-23T05:25:22 < Laurenceb_> if you live in UK and only ever eat at mcdonald and buy food from ASDA thats like living in USA 2016-03-23T05:25:36 < Laurenceb_> which isnt surprising as ASDA==Walmart 2016-03-23T05:27:46 < Laurenceb_> vomit in a plastic bag bulldozed into a warehouse with no prize labels == trying to buy food in USA 2016-03-23T05:27:57 < ColdKeyboard> McDonalds is generally crap but I was pleasantlly surprised when I tried coffe in Wiena's McDonalds 2016-03-23T05:28:32 < ColdKeyboard> It wasn't like someone scooped some drit and put some hot water over it :) 2016-03-23T05:29:38 < ColdKeyboard> However McDonalds coffe in Serbia is like someone grounded dry dog poop into your coffe and poured hot water over it :) 2016-03-23T05:30:05 < Sync> all about the demographic you cater for 2016-03-23T05:31:51 < ColdKeyboard> That's true 2016-03-23T05:32:08 < ColdKeyboard> Harsh, but true. :) 2016-03-23T05:34:12 < englishman> fun fact: im the same distance from toronto as prague is from belgrade 2016-03-23T05:34:19 < englishman> and thats considered a short commute 2016-03-23T05:34:45 < Laurenceb_> hyperloop time 2016-03-23T05:34:56 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/o5ODvs6 <- green party is popular /s 2016-03-23T05:36:18 < ColdKeyboard> You reminded me. Is Trump going to win in US or is it just a show programme for the mentaly retarded? 2016-03-23T05:37:17 < englishman> he will, everything between now and nov 8 is a formality 2016-03-23T05:37:36 < Laurenceb_> Republican party will try to rewrite rules on the fly so he can't win 2016-03-23T05:37:39 < englishman> actually, both statements are true 2016-03-23T05:37:40 < Laurenceb_> epic lulz will result 2016-03-23T05:37:46 < aandrew> yeah I've been ot of the loop for a week 2016-03-23T05:37:48 < aandrew> what's happened 2016-03-23T05:37:57 < Laurenceb_> Trump winning Arizona 2016-03-23T05:38:03 < englishman> trump is awesome, ie situation unchanged 2016-03-23T05:38:15 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-23T05:38:28 < Laurenceb_> 3:38am O_o 2016-03-23T05:38:32 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-03-23T05:42:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-23T05:56:11 < ohsix> u 2016-03-23T05:56:45 < ohsix> actually trump presidency is being ranked as existential threat to the world, along with global warming and islamic terrorism 2016-03-23T05:57:14 < dongs> trump is #1 2016-03-23T05:58:30 < dongs> whats funnier is people getting really defensive about it too 2016-03-23T05:58:44 < dongs> like they would probably kill someone with american guns taht they own 2016-03-23T05:58:50 < ohsix> who did moderates compare hitler to back in the day 2016-03-23T05:58:51 < dongs> if they disagreed about thier president choice 2016-03-23T05:59:06 < ohsix> was there a proto hitler or did people not get a taste of facism until then 2016-03-23T06:00:07 < ohsix> you wouldn't want to trivialize 'threats' 2016-03-23T06:00:30 < ohsix> it's like being trolled, if you react to people who are being provocative to be provocative, you're going to look like a retard 2016-03-23T06:01:04 < ohsix> . 2016-03-23T06:01:31 < ohsix> he obviously doesn't 2016-03-23T06:01:52 < ohsix> he can say 'back in my day we'd beat them up' then wait for someone else to do it, and claim he had nothing to do with it 2016-03-23T06:02:31 < ohsix> a useless truism 2016-03-23T06:03:08 < ohsix> think of things as if they had 'so then' at the end of the statements 2016-03-23T06:03:15 < ohsix> 'everything is show so then x' 2016-03-23T06:03:38 < ohsix> that way you can make a point about something instead of just saying a bunch of stuff that people can't really disagree with 2016-03-23T06:04:14 < ohsix> who decides what is proper 2016-03-23T06:04:29 < dongs> sup assburgers 2016-03-23T06:04:33 < ohsix> do they have a name 2016-03-23T06:04:35 < dongs> R2COM2: dont you have some LoL streams to watch 2016-03-23T06:04:38 < dongs> or was it arma2 2016-03-23T06:04:51 < ohsix> dongs: fixed keybed, would still like to find out who makes them 2016-03-23T06:04:58 < ohsix> R2COM2: ok so like a few million people? 2016-03-23T06:05:03 < ohsix> how do they coordinate and organize 2016-03-23T06:05:59 < ohsix> dongs: markings on the back that aren't chinese '25 -N_V3" "091118" ru cert numbers, 'E190089' 'CFR-1 94V-0' 2016-03-23T06:06:04 < ohsix> i think that's flammability stuff 2016-03-23T06:06:30 < ohsix> the pcb stock is single sided and has a KH stamp on it every 3 inches 2016-03-23T06:07:19 < ohsix> what about the people that aren't willing to punch some black people 2016-03-23T06:07:30 < ohsix> what's the proportion of those, maybe 30 million? 2016-03-23T06:07:40 < ohsix> any black people they can swing at and get away with it 2016-03-23T06:08:03 < ohsix> interesting 2016-03-23T06:08:08 < ohsix> so less than 300 million people 2016-03-23T06:08:51 < ohsix> what is a sheeple, 300 million sounds like the population of a country 2016-03-23T06:09:56 < ohsix> if you can't figure out who they are how are sheeple supposed to 2016-03-23T06:10:20 < ohsix> who is they 2016-03-23T06:10:33 < ohsix> and is that different than a social democracy 2016-03-23T06:10:40 < ohsix> aren't they dead? 2016-03-23T06:10:57 < ohsix> thomas jefferson is alive? 2016-03-23T06:11:23 < dongs> which STM32 does trump use 2016-03-23T06:11:27 < dongs> and does he use cube or not. 2016-03-23T06:11:37 < dongs> asking all the real questions. 2016-03-23T06:11:43 < dongs> / importnat 2016-03-23T06:12:07 < ohsix> secret jews???????? 2016-03-23T06:12:50 < ohsix> are you a religious person, cuz you are carrying all the hallmarks of the christian variety 2016-03-23T06:13:26 < ohsix> does he have an allegory like the tower of babel 2016-03-23T06:13:45 < ohsix> rusure 2016-03-23T06:14:00 < ohsix> isn't there something like a world tree 2016-03-23T06:15:24 < ohsix> japanese games really rip off other mythologies, cuz they're not christian they don't have to be censored during localization 2016-03-23T06:16:16 < ohsix> dongs: which midi controller do you have 2016-03-23T06:16:30 < ohsix> i'm thinking of getting a 49 boring one and another thing with knobs 2016-03-23T06:20:39 < ohsix> nektar makes neat looking instruments 2016-03-23T06:21:55 < dongs> layout some ICs and put autism6 on ignore 2016-03-23T06:22:02 < dongs> let's talk pro orcad features instead. 2016-03-23T06:23:30 < ohsix> SHEEPLE 2016-03-23T06:25:17 < ohsix> watching a presentation where a dude shows how printf is turing complete, cuz it can read/write and have conditionals 2016-03-23T06:25:35 < ohsix> https://github.com/HexHive/printbf 2016-03-23T06:29:10 < ohsix> the dude probably picked brainfuck just so people couldn't literally start using it directly 2016-03-23T06:29:29 < dongs> c2c3 or wahtever shit is boring as fuck 2016-03-23T06:29:41 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-23T06:29:49 < dongs> then stop pasting it. 2016-03-23T06:29:57 < ohsix> gotta watch them on 2x speed and i still have a bunch in a watch later list 2016-03-23T06:30:22 < ohsix> you got to skip the 52 minute presentation, you're welcome 2016-03-23T06:30:40 < ohsix> had it on while i was working 2016-03-23T06:31:23 < ohsix> subvert program 2016-03-23T06:31:41 < ohsix> sleeple 2016-03-23T06:32:42 < ohsix> what should i do about it 2016-03-23T06:33:28 < ohsix> but doesn't that help the unknowable controllers that run the thing 2016-03-23T06:33:59 < ohsix> assume you've given me information that i really need to be concerned about, doesn't that just make you a dick if you have no idea about how to deal with the concept? 2016-03-23T06:34:01 < ohsix> control of what 2016-03-23T06:34:29 < ohsix> if i could control the banking system i wouldn't want to, i'd have someone else do it 2016-03-23T06:34:41 < ohsix> if it doesn't hurt you then it must not be a big deal? 2016-03-23T06:34:54 < ohsix> there is a global banking system, doesn't that make you some sort of lateral sheeperson? 2016-03-23T06:35:08 < ohsix> your country participates in the world bank 2016-03-23T06:35:24 < ohsix> if i were mobile what would it mean, and what do i need to adapt to 2016-03-23T06:35:31 < ohsix> things aren't changing so it doesn't sound like i need to adapt 2016-03-23T06:35:36 < ohsix> what are the things? 2016-03-23T06:36:13 < ohsix> name one thing, one event, one reason for that event 2016-03-23T06:36:17 < englishman> found a hat for dongs http://s2.freebeacon.com/up/2016/03/trumpmarcyarmulke.jpg 2016-03-23T06:36:22 < ohsix> which types of events do you understand 2016-03-23T06:37:01 < ohsix> i think i talked to some people who understood a thing, and they were able to tell me all the things as they understood them, i had my best chance at that point to understand the things 2016-03-23T06:37:15 < ohsix> you keep using 'it', which part of the election? it hasn't happened yet 2016-03-23T06:37:26 < ohsix> there have been some things they call debates, and some primaries and caucuses 2016-03-23T06:37:41 < dongs> cactuses 2016-03-23T06:37:43 < ohsix> the whole process certainly includes having a president at all? 2016-03-23T06:38:06 < ohsix> and then it is going to involve the constitution and the multiple branches of government, what a mess 2016-03-23T06:38:27 < ohsix> are stupid people supposed to vote? what are they supposed to do if it's all a show 2016-03-23T06:38:51 < ohsix> this is like one of those thought experiments 2016-03-23T06:39:18 < ohsix> explain how you could know the universe wasn't created 5 minutes ago with everyone already having the knowledge they have 2016-03-23T06:39:49 < ohsix> could you prove the universe wasn't created 5 minutes ago? 2016-03-23T06:40:12 < ohsix> it could be one really elaborate fiction 2016-03-23T06:40:25 < ohsix> you think you k now that, b ut you could have been created with those thoughts 2016-03-23T06:40:55 < ohsix> think of what you would do if you couldn't prove the world wasn't created 5 minutes ago 2016-03-23T06:40:58 < ohsix> (because you can't) 2016-03-23T06:41:06 < ohsix> how would that advise you, knowing that you could or not 2016-03-23T06:41:46 < ohsix> more than you would be if you didn't know it was actually 10 minutes ago? 2016-03-23T06:41:58 < ohsix> the point is that you can't 2016-03-23T06:42:54 < ohsix> you'll have to do a bit more than assert that it is irrelevant or hypothetical 2016-03-23T06:43:02 < ohsix> the world could have been created 5 minutes ago 2016-03-23T06:43:20 < ohsix> then you are sheeple 2016-03-23T06:44:55 < ohsix> is anyone keeping score, can they call it when someone says 'no you are' 2016-03-23T06:45:20 < ohsix> if you can imply conspiracy such that you have, you do have a problem with the concept of a universe created 5 minutes ago 2016-03-23T06:45:27 < ohsix> Q ED 2016-03-23T06:45:29 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@72.35.133.5] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-23T06:47:37 < dongs> R2COM2: i love you 2016-03-23T06:47:51 < dongs> thanks for getting autism6 out of here 2016-03-23T07:21:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T07:45:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Microcontroller/Display-analog-inputs/ 2016-03-23T07:46:21 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Java/need-guy-with-knowledge-binary/ 2016-03-23T07:52:02 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/php/Mobile-application-can-read-raw/ 2016-03-23T07:52:04 < dongs> ahahahaahhaahahhaah 2016-03-23T07:52:20 < dongs> 300 Chilean Peso equals 2016-03-23T07:52:21 < dongs> 0.4454 US Dollar 2016-03-23T07:53:18 < dongs> wonder if al lthose dumb pakis bidding 2016-03-23T08:15:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-23T08:21:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T08:22:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T08:24:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/firmware-software-from-gerbers-bom/ 2016-03-23T08:24:42 < dongs> haha 2016-03-23T08:24:47 < dongs> > it was designed by a freelancer on here but i didnt pay him so i cant get the files from him cheers 2016-03-23T08:27:26 < jpa-> totally legit 2016-03-23T08:28:51 < PeterM> gxti, i misread your thing thismorning, but i read it again thisafternoon - yeah, i think the lm5134 will be able to drive a reasonable GaN fet at those speeds no worries, i've used a ISL55110 to drive a IRF510 at 13.56mhz and there was no issues, the lm5134 is a much much mroe powerful driver with better specs in almost every way,. and your GaN fets will give tiny gate charge and capacitances compared to the IRF510 2016-03-23T08:29:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T08:30:19 < PeterM> on a side note if you are concerned abotu cooking GaNfets when stuffing around with it, the IRF510 might be suitable for prototyping - just suggesting because i know GaN fets haev super sensitive gates. 2016-03-23T08:30:52 < upgrdman> how are the more sensitive? 2016-03-23T08:31:07 < upgrdman> s/the/they 2016-03-23T08:31:14 < dongs> why would you pwm a fet at 13.56 mhz isnt that RFID shit 2016-03-23T08:31:18 < PeterM> oh, nad if you can, get a fet with a kelvin source connectionso you can put your pilot fet on the seperate source connection 2016-03-23T08:31:18 < dongs> were you making a RFID jammer 2016-03-23T08:32:23 < PeterM> upgrdman, the gates have a much smalelr dielectric and lower breakdown, they only tolerate to like 5v instead of 20v, and with such high pseed gate drive, parasitic inductances etc can cause rinigng which will cook a fet in short order 2016-03-23T08:32:44 < dongs> o. 2016-03-23T08:32:44 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-23T08:32:46 < PeterM> dongs no, 13.56 is ISM band, so you can do what you want on in 2016-03-23T08:33:43 < PeterM> i was fuckign around trying to use parasitices for the magnetics on a boost converter 2016-03-23T08:35:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Project-Management/Looking-for-Local-Chinese-Electrical/ upgrdman job 4 u 2016-03-23T08:35:32 < upgrdman> lol 2016-03-23T08:35:57 < dongs> take it as side job while chilling in china 2016-03-23T08:36:16 < upgrdman> ya, cause freelancer is such a good lead 2016-03-23T08:36:38 < dongs> perfect CV filler 2016-03-23T08:37:01 < PeterM> anyone have an account with MPS? i wanna get the datasheet for a MP6534 2016-03-23T08:37:09 < PeterM> but oyu gotta have an accoount 2016-03-23T08:37:37 < dongs> i can axe my taiwanpal 2016-03-23T08:38:24 < dongs> "call factory" 2016-03-23T08:38:30 < dongs> that sounds like something that isnt even released yet 2016-03-23T08:38:31 < PeterM> cherers 2016-03-23T08:38:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T08:38:44 < PeterM> ive seen it in a product 2016-03-23T08:38:50 < dongs> huhuhuhu 2016-03-23T08:39:31 < PeterM> and i want to clone that product, i want to see datasheet to see if use it or TI part 2016-03-23T08:39:49 < dongs> rite 2016-03-23T08:40:02 < dongs> twpal asked, will see reply 2016-03-23T08:41:29 < jpa-> who broke github 2016-03-23T08:41:57 < dongs> works for me 2016-03-23T08:41:59 < dongs> whats broken 2016-03-23T08:42:16 < jpa-> doesn't load for me 2016-03-23T08:42:24 < jpa-> maybe i've stolen too many codes for today 2016-03-23T08:42:44 < dongs> I see MPS Japan has a track record of replying my emails super propmptly 2016-03-23T08:42:49 < dongs> i ahve like 3 since 2010 2016-03-23T08:42:52 < dongs> not a single one answered 2016-03-23T08:43:49 < dongs> PeterM: the fuck is it with MPS being almost completely off google 2016-03-23T08:44:03 < dongs> like all teh hits for thier part numbers are datasheet caches @ mouser or someshit 2016-03-23T08:44:08 < dongs> like not a single hit of the acutal seite 2016-03-23T08:47:17 < dongs> nice 2016-03-23T08:47:21 < dongs> PeterM: twpal delivered 2016-03-23T08:51:06 < dongs> that looks like a pretty cute part for an cloneESC 2016-03-23T08:53:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-23T08:55:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-23T09:02:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-23T09:08:21 < PeterM> yeah, i found it inside a brushless chainsaw 2016-03-23T09:08:33 < dongs> nice 2016-03-23T09:11:14 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@72.35.133.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T09:17:16 < PeterM> gah, i dont think its suitable for what i want - i'd have to add too many externals for it to work and that would ame it biogger and more expensive than what iwanted 2016-03-23T09:17:28 < ohsix> what's up 2016-03-23T09:19:21 < dongs> PeterM: like wat? doesnt it already do pretty much everything 2016-03-23T09:19:28 < dongs> or do you wanna vape in 3 phases 2016-03-23T09:20:14 < ohsix> so many watts 2016-03-23T09:20:22 < ohsix> get out your resistor calculators 2016-03-23T09:21:56 < ohsix> it's a bummer the vapor pressure isn't lower on the fluids, dicking around with carbs lately; they do amaze things with gas, very dense vapors 2016-03-23T09:22:06 < ohsix> with just some venturi's 2016-03-23T09:24:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T09:27:35 -!- PeterM_obile [~bgdwiepp@1.129.97.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T09:28:24 < PeterM_obile> Dongs the pwm input is a single input for high and low, and it doesn't have tristate, that's on a separate pin 2016-03-23T09:29:10 < dongs> right 2016-03-23T09:29:30 < dongs> is that a problem tho? 2016-03-23T09:30:09 < PeterM_obile> It is a bit, it means there is a delay when you want to float the phase 2016-03-23T09:30:13 < dongs> i think me and simon did something for a driver that was like that 2016-03-23T09:31:32 < ohsix> haha the guy that almost cut his finger off with a knife on tosh.0 took down the video 2016-03-23T09:31:38 < PeterM_obile> On most that have single pin pwm you can float the pwm and it will auto tristate in maybe 20ns, but with the extra pin there is a extra delay for the enable pin of like 200ns 2016-03-23T09:33:52 < dongs> where do you evne see that timing 2016-03-23T09:33:56 < PeterM_obile> Also, the drive strength leaves a bit to be desired - however the equivalent ti part is rubbish drive strength too 2016-03-23T09:34:07 < dongs> TI has somethinb with a built in buck? 2016-03-23T09:34:26 < dongs> I know ti has shitty drivers but last i looked they were all pretty shitty 2016-03-23T09:34:31 < PeterM_obile> Yeah, but it is in like htssop-1000 pavkage 2016-03-23T09:34:33 < dongs> or huge 2016-03-23T09:34:37 < dongs> yeah, that. 2016-03-23T09:35:03 < PeterM_obile> Drv8302 would be nice if you trimmed the fat and put it in a qfn 2016-03-23T09:35:26 < dongs> lul, literally 1000htssop 2016-03-23T09:35:42 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T09:36:09 < dongs> ah, the tI thing is just separate hihg/low. 2016-03-23T09:36:31 < dongs> wheer ytou get this 200ns timing from? 2016-03-23T09:36:45 < PeterM_obile> The thing is like as big as the combined area of the 6+ fets it would be driving 2016-03-23T09:37:02 < PeterM_obile> Link ds again (notice mobile now) 2016-03-23T09:38:57 < dongs> deadtime is adjustable 2016-03-23T09:39:06 < dongs> i dont really see how separate enable pin would cause 200ns delay on stuff 2016-03-23T09:39:38 < dongs> is that Ton? 2016-03-23T09:39:53 < dongs> er no thats buck regulator. 2016-03-23T09:40:35 < PeterM_obile> Nah I think i looked at the fig. For the buck instead. 2016-03-23T09:40:41 < PeterM_obile> My bad 2016-03-23T09:41:05 < PeterM_obile> There is no information in the ENA/ENB/ENC timings 2016-03-23T09:41:11 < dongs> correct 2016-03-23T09:43:03 < PeterM_obile> I do think there will be some delay though - more than propagation delay 2016-03-23T09:44:31 < PeterM_obile> Which it doesn't even tell you :( 2016-03-23T09:51:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:e83e:f246:d829:f9a0] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-23T10:01:03 < ohsix> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Cheapest-scotch-whisky-wholesale-from-China_1749617973.html?spm=a2700.7724856.35.1.uHm0Rf&s=p alibaba is great 2016-03-23T10:01:35 < ohsix> hahah aged 12 years, yea riiiiiiight 2016-03-23T10:01:49 < XTL> Melkein herättää uteliaisuutta :-D 2016-03-23T10:02:12 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-23T10:02:25 < XTL> Tarviis enää labran jolle tuota voi syöttää 2016-03-23T10:03:05 < 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##stm32 2016-03-23T10:25:01 < dongs> http://www.amazingic.com/english/03_news/01_list.php AMAZING news 2016-03-23T10:25:01 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T10:25:10 < dongs> emeb should fix his shit 2016-03-23T10:25:54 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Apple-cable-soldering/ 2016-03-23T10:29:01 < zyp> amaze 2016-03-23T10:31:45 < ohsix> http://i.imgur.com/m9EebaF.gif horse 2016-03-23T10:31:50 < ohsix> makin' gifz 2016-03-23T10:32:06 < PeterM_obile> Amazing ics, how bout potato chips http://www.potatosemi.com/ ? 2016-03-23T10:32:28 < dongs> haha 2016-03-23T10:32:43 < dongs> too bad they dont have anything useful 2016-03-23T10:33:50 < PeterM_obile> But dongs, 1.125ghz hex inverters! 2016-03-23T10:33:58 < PeterM_obile> And nand gates 2016-03-23T10:34:04 < zyp> haha 2016-03-23T10:34:10 < dongs> oh fuck just noticed that 2016-03-23T10:34:29 < dongs> what teh fuck is even the target audience for this 2016-03-23T10:34:31 < dongs> SpaceX? 2016-03-23T10:35:20 < PeterM_obile> Got a system based on 74 series and want it to go faster but don't want to learn vhdl? No problem! Potatosemi! 2016-03-23T10:35:34 < PeterM_obile> *shrugs* 2016-03-23T10:36:15 < PeterM_obile> I can think of uses of ghz clockbuffers though 2016-03-23T10:37:15 < dongs> http://hackaday.com/2013/03/21/nandputer-is-mostly-wiring/ 2016-03-23T10:37:21 < dongs> redo this in ghz. 2016-03-23T10:37:29 < zyp> haha 2016-03-23T10:38:11 < ohsix> wouldn't work maaaan 2016-03-23T10:39:19 < PeterM_obile> Bloody hell, even just moving from dip shit to smt would shrink that by massive amounts 2016-03-23T10:39:31 < dongs> but then it wouldnt be on hackaday 2016-03-23T10:39:41 < dongs> hackaday hates professionally made PCBs 2016-03-23T10:41:49 < PeterM_obile> Sc-75 is the next size down from sc-70 right? 2016-03-23T10:42:16 < ohsix> does hackaday ever express preference wrt pcbs 2016-03-23T10:43:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-23T10:45:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T10:48:39 < Thorn> are there any <$100 lab psus on aliexpress that won't catch fire or kill my project with a transient? 2016-03-23T10:49:13 < zyp> idk about aliexpress, but the $100 or whatever tenma thing is not bad 2016-03-23T10:50:02 < zyp> 72-10480 2016-03-23T10:50:04 < Thorn> I've been reading about tenma, apparently it's a farnell brand 2016-03-23T10:50:17 < zyp> that might be, I bought mine from farnell 2016-03-23T10:50:41 < zyp> http://no.farnell.com/tenma/72-10480/power-supply-1ch-30v-3a-adjustable/dp/2251946 2016-03-23T10:50:45 < PeterM_obile> If your ok with smps aliexpress search for gophert/gopher 2016-03-23T10:50:53 < ohsix> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hot-selling-disposable-midi-size-adult_60377464832.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.lJyJa5&s=p heh 2016-03-23T10:52:41 < ReadError> whats dongulating 2016-03-23T10:53:24 < PeterM_obile> ohsix: I'm not going to click that because I get the feeling my suggested items would change 2016-03-23T10:53:49 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb9YtTLT1E 2016-03-23T10:53:49 < PeterM_obile> ReadError: are you aboutm 2016-03-23T10:53:56 < ReadError> bottom vision coming soion ;) 2016-03-23T10:53:58 < ReadError> soon 2016-03-23T10:54:06 < ReadError> im about dat life 2016-03-23T11:01:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-23T11:02:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T11:03:41 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T11:04:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T11:06:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-23T11:08:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T11:18:40 < Thorn> that tenma psu looks nice 2016-03-23T11:18:46 < Thorn> >10mV / 1mA resolution 2016-03-23T11:20:36 < zyp> yeah, I bought some chinese shit from ebay first 2016-03-23T11:20:37 < Thorn> too bad farnel seems to have stopped shipping directly and local resellers have like 70% markup 2016-03-23T11:20:44 < zyp> which didn't work 2016-03-23T11:20:52 < zyp> and then I found the tenma 2016-03-23T11:20:58 < zyp> at the same price 2016-03-23T11:21:05 < zyp> "man, why did I bother with that ebay shit" 2016-03-23T11:21:25 < zyp> ebay seller didn't want to give me a refund, so he sent another instead 2016-03-23T11:21:40 < zyp> so now I've got three benchtop supplies, of which one doesn't work 2016-03-23T11:21:55 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-23T11:21:56 < jpa-> Thorn: tme.eu has pretty nice selection on power supplies also 2016-03-23T11:22:07 < jpa-> (and they ship directly) 2016-03-23T11:22:16 < zyp> I've thought about crossreferencing signals between them with the scope to see if I can figure out what's wrong 2016-03-23T11:22:20 < ReadError> zyp I have the same one 2016-03-23T11:22:26 < zyp> it turns on, but voltage regulation is stuck at 0V 2016-03-23T11:22:26 < ReadError> but here its called 'Korad' 2016-03-23T11:22:29 < ReadError> great little PSU 2016-03-23T11:22:51 < zyp> a bit heavy though 2016-03-23T11:23:05 < zyp> the ebay ones are all SMPS, so they're like a third of the weight 2016-03-23T11:37:57 < Thorn> found a detailed review in russian https://geektimes.ru/post/258398/ 2016-03-23T11:40:34 < Thorn> oh so it's a dac? 2016-03-23T11:42:53 < Thorn> it's actually mentioned in the article too 2016-03-23T11:48:56 < PeterM_obile> They're fine for linear, ripple currents etc are small 2016-03-23T11:49:54 < PeterM_obile> Though probably not much cheaper than trash teir jap caps 2016-03-23T12:02:16 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T12:02:16 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-23T12:02:16 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T12:08:24 -!- Peter_M_obile [~bgdwiepp@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T12:08:50 -!- Peter_M_obile [~bgdwiepp@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-23T12:11:33 -!- PeterM_obile [~bgdwiepp@1.129.97.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-23T12:15:36 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/24inch-100g-pink-ombre-braiding-hair-kinky-twist-hair-two-tone-kanekalon-jumbo-braid-synthetic-braiding/32595665478.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1,searchweb201602_1_10036_10035_10034_507_10032_10020_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_401_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=8c19aa60-31f3-46fe-8449-d1f26afbb631 2016-03-23T12:15:42 < ReadError> doin some shopping on ali 2016-03-23T12:19:25 < ReadError> thats a lot of cunts 2016-03-23T12:21:54 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/15W-Zoomable-LED-Flashlights-Torches-Rechargeable-Ultra-Bright-Fishing-LED-Lamp-Blue-Purple-LED-Light/32627023185.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1,searchweb201602_1_10036_10035_10034_507_10032_10020_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_401_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=46b7038b-2ba2-4385-a886-53d0fb8bd000 2016-03-23T12:21:58 < ReadError> wtf is the purpose of this 2016-03-23T12:25:00 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/20pcs-lot-free-shipping-diy-box-mod-component-plastic-material-2-18650-battery-sled-dual-18650/32557975437.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1,searchweb201602_1_10036_10035_10034_507_10032_10020_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_401_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=e4bfdcb0-87ad-4c4b-af3c-63380dd3d8d0 2016-03-23T12:25:02 < ReadError> i need these 2016-03-23T12:25:10 < ReadError> but wtf is sweden post 2016-03-23T12:25:16 < ReadError> 15-50 days lol 2016-03-23T12:33:49 < PeterM> ReadError, something something i have a few on hand 2016-03-23T12:34:14 < ReadError> yea didnt dongs get them for you? 2016-03-23T12:35:04 < PeterM> yessir 2016-03-23T12:35:36 < PeterM> nah 2016-03-23T12:35:51 < PeterM> only for shit that my china guy cant get 2016-03-23T12:37:47 < ReadError> PeterM yea I want to find some that ship epacket 2016-03-23T12:37:54 < ReadError> otherwise I may just taoboa 2016-03-23T12:38:47 < PeterM> how many you need? 2016-03-23T12:41:13 < ReadError> i was gonna grab 10-20 2016-03-23T12:41:24 < ReadError> I got these super bootleg batts 2016-03-23T12:41:39 < PeterM> yeah that link i sent you should get yopu 10-20 for a reasonable price 2016-03-23T12:41:46 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-High-Drain-Rechargeable-Battery-18650-35A-3-7v-LI-MN-2500mAh-Button-Top/2048894024.html 2016-03-23T12:41:53 < ReadError> 1.20 each lol 2016-03-23T12:41:54 < PeterM> they also sell legit batteries too 2016-03-23T12:42:00 < ReadError> I dont trust them for anything important 2016-03-23T12:42:01 < PeterM> those arent legit 2016-03-23T12:42:05 < ReadError> yea i know heh 2016-03-23T12:42:18 < ReadError> Im going to setup a profile on my powerlab to cycle them 2016-03-23T12:42:23 < ReadError> get a good idea of capacity 2016-03-23T12:42:41 < ReadError> figure as long as they dont explode, I can make a decent powerbrick using all 20 2016-03-23T12:42:47 < PeterM> 2200 but probably not rated for 35a 2016-03-23T12:46:47 < zyp> I hear cycle satiator is the shit for ebike charging 2016-03-23T12:47:04 < zyp> http://www.ebikes.ca/product-info/cycle-satiator.html 2016-03-23T12:48:03 < ReadError> crt yea its not cheap 2016-03-23T12:48:10 < ReadError> but will charge anything 2016-03-23T12:48:38 < zyp> I think cycle satiator is like $300 2016-03-23T12:50:11 < zyp> http://www.revolectrix.com/pl8_description_tab.htm <- is this the powerlab you're talking about? 2016-03-23T12:52:58 < zyp> hmm, that thing doesn't seem very well suited for ebike opakcs 2016-03-23T12:53:32 < zyp> since it only does 8s packs 2016-03-23T12:53:43 < zyp> ebike packs are typicall 10s or 13s 2016-03-23T12:54:27 < zyp> mine is 10s, i.e. 36V, which is on the low end of what's considered decent 2016-03-23T12:54:43 < zyp> I think there's some 24V ebikes, but from what I hear they're all shit 2016-03-23T12:55:11 < jpa-> seems it should work fine, depending on what one wants 2016-03-23T12:55:29 < PeterM> zyp too much current from <10s 2016-03-23T12:55:32 < jpa-> i'm running at up to some 10A at 36V, so 15A at 24V doesn't seem that bad 2016-03-23T12:59:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-23T13:08:30 < ReadError> the powerlabs will dumb current tho 2016-03-23T13:08:54 < ReadError> 40A no prob 2016-03-23T13:09:10 < PeterM> i'd probably not charge my ebike packs at >1c though 2016-03-23T13:09:47 < rewolff2> If you have a motor and wire it for 24V at 25km/h then you can also place a thinner wire with 1.5 times more times around the stator, and get a 36V motor. 2016-03-23T13:10:21 < jpa-> though you can use 24V motor fine with 36V battery 2016-03-23T13:10:26 < rewolff2> Then both motors can run at say 240W from their batteries, 10A from the 24V battery, and 6.66A from the 36V battery. 2016-03-23T13:11:02 < rewolff2> Now if you have a 15Ah 24V battery, that's 0.66C, and you have a same-watt-hour 36V battery it would be 10A, again 0.66C. 2016-03-23T13:12:13 < zyp> if I were building another ebike today, I'd be tempted to pick up the BBS-HD and run a 52V battery pack 2016-03-23T13:12:40 < rewolff2> The same goes for the individual cells. You'd have about 4P9S for the 10Ah 36V one, and 6P6S for the 15Ah 24V battery. Each cell would need to do 1.66A. 2016-03-23T13:13:00 < PeterM> 12s is nice, if oyu need to balance the packs you jsut split it ina half and bottom balance it with any normal charger\ 2016-03-23T13:13:24 < zyp> PeterM, ebike packs usually have an internal BMS that does the balancing 2016-03-23T13:13:52 < zyp> so the charger just need to provide the full pack voltage, current limited 2016-03-23T13:14:26 < PeterM> or you could jsut bottom balance and then not need to balance provided you dont over charge/over discharge 2016-03-23T13:14:46 < jpa-> + assuming you have good quality, equivalent cells 2016-03-23T13:14:48 < PeterM> atleast nto regularly 2016-03-23T13:14:52 < jpa-> which is a big if 2016-03-23T13:19:16 < PeterM> no idea, but being an aussie company you can take it back if its shit 2016-03-23T13:19:35 < zyp> that looks pretty similar to the chinese firetrap 2016-03-23T13:19:45 < zyp> but mine's been working well for my use 2016-03-23T13:21:47 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/f/lNfIS.JPG 2016-03-23T13:56:28 < zyp> I put in pcbs, press start, and seven minutes later I take out reflowed pcbs 2016-03-23T13:56:33 < zyp> shit just works 2016-03-23T13:57:02 < zyp> according to dongs it might catch on fire 2016-03-23T13:57:33 < zyp> I think he were talking about running leadless cycle a bunch of times back to back 2016-03-23T13:57:46 < zyp> so far I've only used leaded paste 2016-03-23T13:58:15 < zyp> other people were talking about replacing the shitty masking tape used in it with kapton tape to mitigate the risk 2016-03-23T13:58:31 < zyp> either way it's fine for small scale home use 2016-03-23T14:08:08 < dongs> and dont forget opensores firmware that improves it 2016-03-23T14:08:37 < dongs> https://github.com/UnifiedEngineering/T-962-improvements 2016-03-23T14:09:09 < dongs> that + thermocouple fix + fan pwm + kapton and it should be almost usable 2016-03-23T14:09:12 < dongs> for hobby junk 2016-03-23T14:09:29 < dongs> i just dont give enough fuck to fix mine since i have a proper onme 2016-03-23T14:09:48 < dongs> and yeah catch on fire = back to back lead-free cycles 2016-03-23T14:11:15 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T14:11:22 < dongs> whats everyone's favorite dual buck > 1A each 2016-03-23T14:11:38 -!- ColdKeyboard[a] [~ck@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T14:11:50 < dongs> started using PAM2306 and customer says they might need > 1A 2016-03-23T14:11:59 < dongs> assholes 2016-03-23T14:12:25 < dongs> also digikey mobile app is trash 2016-03-23T14:12:34 < dongs> o yea, zyp, we can now do HPL pcbs 2016-03-23T14:12:46 -!- ColdKeyboard[a] [~ck@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-23T14:12:46 < dongs> time to do some 0.5mm pitch BGAs 2016-03-23T14:24:58 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T14:26:29 < zyp> fuck them 2016-03-23T14:26:40 < zyp> dongs, HPL? 2016-03-23T14:26:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T14:29:50 < ReadError> i wish i could do blind/buried vias on the cheap 2016-03-23T14:29:53 < ReadError> that would be fun 2016-03-23T14:31:07 < dongs> no it wouldnt 2016-03-23T14:31:09 < dongs> you'd just be a dumb stoner 2016-03-23T14:31:21 < jpa-> in what way would it be fun? 2016-03-23T14:31:25 < dongs> / cloner 2016-03-23T14:33:04 < dongs> After the FBI told the court that a 'third party' will help them unlock an encrypted iPhone and that they no longer need Apple's cooperation, it has now been reported that Israel’s Cellebrite, a provider of mobile forensic software, will unlock an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino shooters, as part of a deal with the U.S. Federal Bureau of 2016-03-23T14:33:09 < dongs> Investigation. 2016-03-23T14:33:12 < dongs> lol jews 2016-03-23T14:33:55 < dongs> http://i.4cdn.org/v/1458727026571.png 2016-03-23T14:36:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T14:42:47 < ReadError> jpa- idk, just something different 2016-03-23T14:42:58 < ReadError> higher density boards 2016-03-23T14:43:09 < dongs> < ReadError> higher density clones 2016-03-23T14:43:25 < ReadError> I like the challenge of making things as small as possible 2016-03-23T14:44:42 < dongs> attn zyp http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/norway-to-allow-gender-change-without-medical-intervention-1.2824294 2016-03-23T14:46:39 < zyp> cool 2016-03-23T14:47:09 < mitrax> what's next? 2016-03-23T14:47:18 < mitrax> species change? 2016-03-23T14:47:23 * mitrax wants to be a dolphin 2016-03-23T14:47:32 < dongs> race change, obivously 2016-03-23T14:48:05 < zyp> mitrax, there were some news article a couple months ago about a girl that identifies as a cat 2016-03-23T14:48:16 < mitrax> For minors aged six to 16, parents will be required to authorise the change. If one parent opposes, authorities may decide "in the child's best interest." 2016-03-23T14:48:20 < mitrax> greaaaaat 2016-03-23T14:48:22 < ReadError> ive always felt like I most identified as a strong black female 2016-03-23T14:48:23 < mitrax> zyp: ahahaha 2016-03-23T14:48:54 < zyp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWeBunPiIzo 2016-03-23T14:49:45 < mitrax> wtf 2016-03-23T14:49:52 < mitrax> that's a joke right? 2016-03-23T14:51:23 < zyp> haha, I haven't seen this myself before 2016-03-23T14:51:35 < zyp> just read the article about it 2016-03-23T14:51:45 < dongs> lol fucking fattie 2016-03-23T14:52:17 < dongs> is that norwegian? 2016-03-23T14:52:18 < mitrax> fucking degenerates 2016-03-23T14:52:21 < zyp> yes 2016-03-23T14:52:35 < dongs> sounds kinda like eskimo 2016-03-23T15:07:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T15:29:07 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-23T15:29:36 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T15:31:39 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T15:48:21 < cwillu> 0.5mm, bitch 2016-03-23T16:00:42 < dongs> dicaprio is in japan 2016-03-23T16:01:40 < englishman> is he going to whine and moan about your country too 2016-03-23T16:01:43 < dongs> yes 2016-03-23T16:01:49 < dongs> hes moaning about climate change 2016-03-23T16:01:51 < dongs> or some otehr shit 2016-03-23T16:01:56 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/jOul3Gz.png 2016-03-23T16:02:03 < englishman> he srsly said its too fucking warm in canada 2016-03-23T16:02:32 < dongs> hes getting fucking slaughtered by fangirls 2016-03-23T16:02:37 < dongs> i can hear the sreamns from here 2016-03-23T16:04:48 < dongs> LEOOOOO-SAN~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ x 1000 2016-03-23T16:05:41 < Sync> nuke it. 2016-03-23T16:07:27 < kakimir> :D 2016-03-23T16:07:59 < kakimir> but isn't climate change chinese conspiracy to ruin western industry? 2016-03-23T16:08:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.241] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:08:37 < mitrax> kakimir: it's supposed to be the other way around :) 2016-03-23T16:09:01 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T16:09:27 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T16:09:38 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:09:53 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T16:11:36 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T16:14:37 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:16:15 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:17:49 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:18:33 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-23T16:18:33 -!- pid_ [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:22:51 -!- pid_ is now known as pid 2016-03-23T16:22:58 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-23T16:22:58 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T16:26:52 < kakimir> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q8f0Cne8rp8/maxresdefault.jpg very kewl bldc 2016-03-23T16:27:37 < kakimir> direct drive is the shiet 2016-03-23T16:28:58 < kakimir> 149usd 2016-03-23T16:29:27 < kakimir> maybe that bldc + gear for 20usb is not that bad option 2016-03-23T16:30:19 < dongs> what kinda shit are you assburerging now 2016-03-23T16:31:25 < kakimir> extra slow glider 2016-03-23T16:31:29 < kakimir> motorization 2016-03-23T16:31:57 < kakimir> you know.. at 10m/s it pulls loops without user interference 2016-03-23T16:32:49 < kakimir> once towed it too hard it looped at start and crashed in trees behind launch site 2016-03-23T16:33:17 < kakimir> tow line still connected 2016-03-23T16:33:46 < BrainDamage> engine power? 2016-03-23T16:34:48 < kakimir> oh how much I need engine power for it? 2016-03-23T16:34:57 < kakimir> like 100watts max 2016-03-23T16:35:27 < kakimir> I try to find some prop that is efficient at 6m/s 2016-03-23T16:36:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-87.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-23T16:38:00 < kakimir> I towed it with snow mobile.. first launch was fail so I corrected it with full throttle launch while the pilot didn't even have his hands at TX 2016-03-23T16:40:11 < kakimir> at any point 2016-03-23T16:40:20 < kakimir> stoned 2016-03-23T16:45:21 < kakimir> the wing came off in branch of the tree and then the fuselage flew 50meters directly sideways as line tension springed it 2016-03-23T16:51:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T17:02:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T17:08:33 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-23T17:48:55 < dongs> in my 56Wh vapercharger 2016-03-23T17:49:02 < dongs> should I put battery though a PTC 2016-03-23T17:49:05 < dongs> or just blow shit up when its s horted 2016-03-23T17:49:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-23T17:53:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T17:56:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:84ce:8909:42af:9ef2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T18:00:49 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T18:06:51 < dongs> i think i'll just suck it up and use MAX16054 2016-03-23T18:09:35 < dongs> max makes dumb shit but its dumb shit nobody else makes 2016-03-23T18:12:21 < dongs> hey wat ST has something too 2016-03-23T18:13:07 < dongs> http://www.st.com/web/catalog/sense_power/FM1946/SC1753/PF219701 2016-03-23T18:16:48 < dongs> oh wow, ti Too 2016-03-23T18:16:52 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/product/TPS3420 2016-03-23T18:16:59 < dongs> that fuckin package 2016-03-23T18:17:03 < dongs> 1.45x1mm 2016-03-23T18:23:54 < dongs> too stoned. bed time 2016-03-23T18:36:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@188.106.70.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T18:42:23 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-23T18:48:57 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/vVq5Oii.png 2016-03-23T18:49:05 < Laurenceb_> Qt actually looks quite hawt 2016-03-23T18:49:10 < Sync> seksi 2016-03-23T18:50:21 < Laurenceb_> need to actually get it to link to stm board now 2016-03-23T18:50:40 < Laurenceb_> atm it connecting to python simulator on another machine via usb dongles 2016-03-23T18:52:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.107.89] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T18:55:44 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-23T19:14:46 < XTL> qt is pretty tempting. There's even jobs around, it seems. 2016-03-23T19:27:44 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBexS2WHN3w 2016-03-23T19:30:36 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T19:31:11 < Sync> so pro 2016-03-23T20:00:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:f03d:be5f:3e36:8010] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:12:42 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:15:41 < jpa-> qt is pretty nice 2016-03-23T20:22:50 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-23T20:23:57 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:35:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:35:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.160] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:40:58 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-23T20:54:19 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:54:35 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-8-140.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:55:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.107.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:55:01 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:55:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@188.106.70.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:55:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:55:53 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:55:53 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T20:56:34 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:57:34 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:57:38 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:59:05 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T20:59:42 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-8-140.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:08:33 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-23T21:10:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.107.89] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:16:37 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T21:16:41 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-23T21:19:46 -!- aadamson_ [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:19:46 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@206-248-177-88.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:19:46 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@206-248-177-88.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-23T21:19:46 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:19:49 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:19:55 -!- aadamson_ is now known as aadamson 2016-03-23T21:20:01 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-23T21:21:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:f03d:be5f:3e36:8010] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-23T21:22:13 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-03-23T21:22:18 < Laurenceb_> Qt has broken my machine 2016-03-23T21:22:41 < Laurenceb_> Qt applications can see /dev/ttyUSB0 correctly, yet its not listed in /dev/ 2016-03-23T21:22:51 < Laurenceb_> device isnt even in lsusb 2016-03-23T21:25:09 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:26:40 < Laurenceb_> its like my device is dead, yet it works with Qt fine 2016-03-23T21:26:46 < Laurenceb_> and on windows xp machines 2016-03-23T21:27:05 < Laurenceb_> can't even see anything in dmesg wtf 2016-03-23T21:27:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:f03d:be5f:3e36:8010] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T21:27:42 < qyx> mhm, are there some pros/cons of using dual/CT primary/secondary windings? 2016-03-23T21:27:43 < qyx> like this 2016-03-23T21:27:45 < qyx> http://sound.westhost.com/articles/smps-f20.gif 2016-03-23T21:27:50 < qyx> instead of using a full bridge primary 2016-03-23T21:28:28 < qyx> I see lower mosfet resistance (1 switch instead of two), but higher winding resistance (more wire -> thinner) 2016-03-23T21:37:06 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNxzzuMTB8 why people who don't actually do electronics get equipment for free 2016-03-23T21:38:23 < XTL> Laurenceb_: Could something have removed the node? Check /proc//fd/ is there a device file open? 2016-03-23T21:38:48 < Laurenceb_> doh 2016-03-23T21:39:00 < Laurenceb_> was on wrong machine - using vitualbox 2016-03-23T21:39:04 < Laurenceb_> I fail 2016-03-23T21:39:07 < XTL> Classic. :) 2016-03-23T21:40:20 < PeterM> qyx, yeah, your fets need to be rated 2x the vin, and if the core isnt perfectly wound it can flux walk, also the transformer is bigger because the extra copper 2016-03-23T21:50:26 < Taxman> but you need only low side mosfets - so gate drive is much easier 2016-03-23T21:51:04 < PeterM> Taxman, these days gate drive is a non issue, especially with controllers liek the LM5045 2016-03-23T21:51:35 < Taxman> PeterM: Depens on Vin voltage... 2016-03-23T21:52:27 < Taxman> Depends 2016-03-23T22:07:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-23T22:21:30 < qyx> PeterM: uhm, full bridge then 2016-03-23T22:22:14 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T22:23:26 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-23T22:25:58 < PeterM> qyx application makes a lot of difference toi these kinda things too btw, so may i ask? 2016-03-23T22:27:33 < ohsix> ReadError: how do you find stuff on alibaba, i tried but nothing i looked for had less than 2000 results and you can't sort by anything useful 2016-03-23T22:27:50 < ohsix> ReadError: i wanna buy just the keybed assembly, 25 or 49 keys 2016-03-23T22:28:05 < ReadError> example? 2016-03-23T22:28:08 < ReadError> one thing is 2016-03-23T22:28:09 < ohsix> of a midi controller / digital piano, anything 2016-03-23T22:28:13 < ReadError> the chinese phrase stuff different 2016-03-23T22:28:27 < ReadError> which can make things tricky 2016-03-23T22:28:48 < ohsix> http://tk386.com/k2000_keys/slides/DSC_9332.jpg 2016-03-23T22:29:11 < ohsix> almost everyone uses this exact one in their synth, this is from a korg thing, i have the same but only 25 keys in an alesis qx25 2016-03-23T22:29:25 < ohsix> ideally i'd buy one from the company that makes them all, if i could find them 2016-03-23T22:30:09 < ohsix> http://www.guitar-parts.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/TAS0001021-D.jpg 2016-03-23T22:30:53 < ohsix> http://i.imgur.com/tQgjTFX.jpg?2 this is mine, 25key with weight inserts 2016-03-23T22:31:10 < ohsix> the chinese on the pcb is meaningless 2016-03-23T22:31:25 < ohsix> it just says '25 key scale piano' or something 2016-03-23T22:32:09 < XTL> Fatar? 2016-03-23T22:32:32 < ohsix> wow 2016-03-23T22:32:33 < ohsix> haha 2016-03-23T22:32:37 < ohsix> that's a good lead 2016-03-23T22:32:47 < ohsix> they don't look the same but apparently they do make them 2016-03-23T22:33:45 < ohsix> hm there's some category stuff on wikipedia i can dig through from the look of it, they had fatar in there as a musical instrument manufacturer 2016-03-23T22:36:12 < ohsix> it's weird to people talk about instruments very wrt. to keybed/keyboard quality, even when they don't know that the two things they're talking about are the same assembly :> 2016-03-23T22:36:43 < kakimir> what is happenings here 2016-03-23T22:38:03 < ohsix> the one that sucks about the one i have is that there is a key overhang, people pick it up by the keys sometime and they break 2016-03-23T22:39:07 < kakimir> what is the thing with chinese keaboard? 2016-03-23T22:39:57 < ohsix> XTL: fatar seems to use the same subframe and similar keys http://www.fatar.com/particolari/TP8O_2.jpg the part with the standoffs, the moulded in metal plate, and the pcb contacts are all the same 2016-03-23T22:40:15 < ohsix> http://www.fatar.com/particolari/TP8_S_sotto_2.jpg 2016-03-23T22:40:25 < ohsix> well, the standoffs are longer, about a cm 2016-03-23T22:40:57 < XTL> I don't know really. I thought that's what everyone seems to be using. 2016-03-23T22:41:25 < ohsix> it's as close as i've gotten so far 2016-03-23T22:41:37 < ohsix> they have nicer ones with weighted hammers and stuff hidden in them :> 2016-03-23T22:43:08 < ohsix> already finding other manufacturers with just the name fatar and people talking about them 2016-03-23T22:43:38 < ohsix> thanks, gotta get out in the sun 2016-03-23T22:43:53 < ohsix> ReadError: if you manage to think of any better way to look on ali let me know D: 2016-03-23T22:50:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.107.89] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-23T23:02:46 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5355D614.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-23T23:10:15 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/HNHmMA7 2016-03-23T23:10:23 < Laurenceb_> I knew that would be shopped sooner or later 2016-03-23T23:15:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:84ce:8909:42af:9ef2] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-23T23:23:25 < Steffanx> Autism fetish. 2016-03-23T23:28:17 < kakimir> hmm now I'm back to lpc1547 board 2016-03-23T23:28:43 < kakimir> the breakout 2016-03-23T23:35:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-23T23:49:34 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-23T23:59:55 < kakimir> have had the transistors and sot23 adapters for a while --- Day changed Thu Mar 24 2016 2016-03-24T00:00:14 < kakimir> I don't understand how lazy human can be 2016-03-24T00:00:30 < kakimir> or to say.. me 2016-03-24T00:10:33 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T00:11:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T00:16:56 < kakimir> which one is phase and which amplitude in ltspice? 2016-03-24T00:18:48 < kakimir> solid must be the amplitude? 2016-03-24T00:24:03 < kakimir> holy shiet 2016-03-24T00:24:49 < kakimir> my random filter actually amplifies 11dB 2016-03-24T00:27:54 < kakimir> ues 2016-03-24T00:28:00 < kakimir> ues! 2016-03-24T00:28:40 < kakimir> back to old projects crt 2016-03-24T00:32:55 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-24T00:33:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-24T00:34:50 < kakimir> I show you later 2016-03-24T00:39:49 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T00:40:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T00:46:46 < mitrax> ahaha 2016-03-24T00:51:13 < mitrax> reminds me of a dumb mistake a guy i work with made the other day, he designed a board with some switching regs to power some LED lamps and put a small linear regulator for some other part of the circuit that he *assumed* was only eating 30mA or so 2016-03-24T00:51:32 < mitrax> during testing he frequently touched the switching reg to make sure they weren't getting hot 2016-03-24T00:52:36 < mitrax> then one evening the day before shipping, i go "eh let's check the board with the thermal cam" (which, if you own one, is the first thing you should do) 2016-03-24T00:53:46 < mitrax> "eh what's that?" (*big yellow thing glowing in a corner of the board*) 2016-03-24T00:53:56 < mitrax> it was 100°C 2016-03-24T00:54:45 < mitrax> ahaha 2016-03-24T00:57:33 < mitrax> interrogation? with the supplier/manufactuer? 2016-03-24T00:58:36 < mitrax> what striked me is, very often they have something that could be a good product, but there's a fucking stupid design mistake that ruins everything 2016-03-24T01:01:09 < mitrax> ahah 2016-03-24T01:04:25 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-24T01:05:13 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T01:11:12 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T01:19:56 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T01:26:02 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-24T02:16:28 < kakimir> I don't understand why doesn't buck regulator UVLO 2016-03-24T02:16:57 < kakimir> it goes down down down and then starts to flutter output like crazy doesn't look good 2016-03-24T02:21:06 < kakimir> your mummy 2016-03-24T02:24:02 < kakimir> 54232 2016-03-24T02:24:19 < kakimir> okay I rise UVLO from 5.1 to 9 2016-03-24T02:28:53 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-24T02:29:38 < ColdKeyboard> In datasheet for STM32F072RB the TIM2_CH2 is pin PA1 and PB3... which one is it?? 2016-03-24T02:30:20 < ColdKeyboard> I've initialized the PA0, PA1, PA2, PA3, configured Alternate Function to AF2 but PA1 doesn't work :\ 2016-03-24T02:33:57 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-03-24T02:34:09 < dongs> ColdKeyboard: either one. you select it by AF 2016-03-24T02:34:22 < ColdKeyboard> GPIO_PinAFConfig(GPIOA, GPIO_PinSource1, GPIO_AF_2); 2016-03-24T02:34:24 < dongs> did you check datasheet AF table to make sure youre not fucking it up 2016-03-24T02:34:27 < ColdKeyboard> gpioStructure.GPIO_Pin = ( GPIO_Pin_0 | GPIO_Pin_1 | GPIO_Pin_2 | GPIO_Pin_3 ); 2016-03-24T02:34:31 < dongs> (and for 072 series) 2016-03-24T02:35:09 < dongs> check if TIM2 on 07x needs BDTR enabled in order to output stuff, but i kinda doubt it i think thats only advanced (1/8) 2016-03-24T02:35:10 < ColdKeyboard> It says it's PA1 or PB3 2016-03-24T02:35:23 < dongs> yes but did you check the AF table to make sure thats the TIM2 AF 2016-03-24T02:36:04 < ColdKeyboard> Table 14. Alternate functions selected through GPIOA_AFR registers for port A 2016-03-24T02:36:05 < dongs> page 43. k, looks right. 2016-03-24T02:36:06 < dongs> yes. 2016-03-24T02:36:08 < ColdKeyboard> PA1 EVENTOUT USART2_RTS TIM2_CH2 TSC_G1_IO2 USART4_RX TIM15_CH1N - - 2016-03-24T02:36:19 < dongs> - - moer likre -_- 2016-03-24T02:36:35 < dongs> did you power up syscfg 2016-03-24T02:36:37 < dongs> in rcc 2016-03-24T02:36:44 < dongs> i think that shit is needed for pin / af shit. 2016-03-24T02:37:22 < ColdKeyboard> MCU is working fine if that's what you are asking. Also TIM1 is running in same mode and his channels 1-3 work fine 2016-03-24T02:38:30 < ColdKeyboard> Sorry, PA2 is not working and I'm talking about CH3 not 2. CH2 is working fine 2016-03-24T02:38:52 < dongs> PA2 is CH3. so you have used AF for CH2 and it works? 2016-03-24T02:38:55 < dongs> ok then i dunno. 2016-03-24T02:38:57 < dongs> maybe you killed the pin. 2016-03-24T02:40:15 < ColdKeyboard> I hope not. I was just driving a LED trough 550ohm resistor 2016-03-24T02:40:22 < ColdKeyboard> And btw channel 3 never worked :\ 2016-03-24T02:40:31 < ColdKeyboard> So it didn't even light the LED once 2016-03-24T02:47:25 < ColdKeyboard> http://pastie.org/10771752 2016-03-24T02:47:34 < ColdKeyboard> Here is my init. Anything wrong with it? 2016-03-24T02:47:44 < ColdKeyboard> flyback, that's not nice. :) 2016-03-24T02:52:57 < ColdKeyboard> Thanks 2016-03-24T02:53:08 < ColdKeyboard> I have no clue why channel 2 and 3 are not working :\ 2016-03-24T02:54:28 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T02:55:04 < Laurenceb_> I should be able to c&p 0x00 from hex editor to hyperterminal in windoze right? 2016-03-24T02:55:14 < Laurenceb_> something is broken :-/ 2016-03-24T02:56:42 < ColdKeyboard> Why not use terminal? It has option to send hex and binary values 2016-03-24T02:57:01 < Laurenceb_> ah good plan 2016-03-24T02:57:28 < Laurenceb_> either SP1ML modules dont sent trailing 0x00 bytes, or I'm screwing up with hyperterminal 2016-03-24T03:01:14 < ColdKeyboard> https://sites.google.com/site/terminalbpp/ 2016-03-24T03:02:00 < ColdKeyboard> I'm using this terminal and it works nicely 2016-03-24T03:04:37 < ColdKeyboard> btw I've messed something up with my setup. Channel 3 and Channel 4 don't work :\ 2016-03-24T03:04:55 < ColdKeyboard> Channels 1 and 2 work fine :\ 2016-03-24T03:07:39 < dongs> Laurenceb_: use hercules setup 2016-03-24T03:07:52 < dongs> http://www.hw-group.com/products/hercules/index_en.html 2016-03-24T03:07:56 < dongs> you can set it to show non-printable hex trash 2016-03-24T03:08:07 < dongs> and also send hex 2016-03-24T03:08:12 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-24T03:08:26 < dongs> fuck hyperterminal waht the fuck OS are you even using that still has that 2016-03-24T03:08:27 < ColdKeyboard> I used it for TCP server. It works really nice 2016-03-24T03:08:33 < dongs> I thought they got rid of hyperterminal in like windows xp 2016-03-24T03:15:02 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKLTBERzNUSEh3S0k/view?usp=sharing audible noise found with scope 2016-03-24T03:15:06 < ColdKeyboard> Can someone take a peek and tell my why TIM_CH3 isn't working -> http://pastie.org/10771752 ? :| 2016-03-24T03:15:37 < ColdKeyboard> Datasheet says TIM2_CH3 is PA2 pin 2016-03-24T03:15:44 < kakimir> UVLO works now as I added some resistor to divider 2016-03-24T03:15:54 < kakimir> it was a bit off 2016-03-24T03:16:50 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKcldBYWZvS09RZ3M/view?usp=sharing now it has drivers for optotriacs 2016-03-24T03:16:58 < kakimir> or whatever 2016-03-24T03:17:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T03:18:43 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T03:19:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-24T03:19:50 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-24T03:20:12 < kakimir> it's the classic 2016-03-24T03:21:10 < dongs> cool SMA 2016-03-24T03:21:50 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKY2wxWGk3VmhER1E/view?usp=sharing it's the SMA board with some mcu on it 2016-03-24T03:22:14 < dongs> lol.. 2016-03-24T03:22:59 < kakimir> tommorrow I finally connect rs232 board to it and start programming it 2016-03-24T03:23:16 < dongs> better install mbed on it 2016-03-24T03:23:18 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T03:23:21 < dongs> and program in teh CLOUD 2016-03-24T03:23:36 < kakimir> I don't really know what mbed is 2016-03-24T03:23:40 < kakimir> I have never seen it 2016-03-24T03:26:46 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-24T03:28:03 < dongs> kakimir: my pro/ee pal says you wasted time by not just buying a fucking mbed breakout borad with that chip on it. 2016-03-24T03:28:06 < dongs> to develop wiht. 2016-03-24T03:28:12 < dongs> and instead assburgered a shitty breakout. 2016-03-24T03:28:15 < dongs> wiht SMAs 2016-03-24T03:28:16 < Laurenceb_> too lazy to fix this shit 2016-03-24T03:28:21 < Laurenceb_> yes win xp 2016-03-24T03:28:33 < kakimir> :D 2016-03-24T03:28:44 < kakimir> it's for the lulz 2016-03-24T03:28:57 < kakimir> I can feel the hurt 2016-03-24T03:29:25 < Laurenceb_> https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/23/213232/pornhub-unveils-free-vr-porn-channel 2016-03-24T03:29:34 < Laurenceb_> important news for slashdot users 2016-03-24T03:29:40 < kakimir> dongs: besides I have the board 2016-03-24T03:29:40 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-24T03:30:16 < kakimir> It didn't got my autism going 2016-03-24T03:30:49 < kakimir> http://www.nxp.com/products/software-and-tools/hardware-development-tools/lpcxpresso-boards/lpcxpresso-board-for-lpc1549:OM13056 it's really boring 2016-03-24T03:31:21 < dongs> by boring you mean usable? 2016-03-24T03:31:44 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-24T03:31:47 < dongs> its $25 2016-03-24T03:31:55 < dongs> you wasted 10x that in your time 2016-03-24T03:32:01 < dongs> (admittedly, that might be worthless anyway) 2016-03-24T03:32:10 < kakimir> like I said.. I have the board 2016-03-24T03:32:32 < kakimir> it's arduino ready or something 2016-03-24T03:32:53 < kakimir> or has some connetor to stack that shiet 2016-03-24T03:33:10 < kakimir> I don't know how voltage levels and all that go 2016-03-24T03:36:05 < kakimir> lemme see that board... does it have buck regulator - no, does it have 3pcs 3v3 outputs - no, does it have nice voltage reference for analogs - no 2016-03-24T03:36:38 < kakimir> SMA connectors - no, but it's virtually arduino 2016-03-24T03:38:28 < kakimir> it has ethernets I don't need and too much memmory 2016-03-24T03:38:43 < kakimir> and a programmer I don't want 2016-03-24T03:39:37 < dongs> how do you debug your assburger board 2016-03-24T03:39:40 < dongs> with SWD 2016-03-24T03:39:44 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-24T03:39:49 < dongs> ye,s how 2016-03-24T03:40:31 < kakimir> ? plug the probe and start the openocd server 2016-03-24T03:40:38 < dongs> yes, what hardware? 2016-03-24T03:41:20 < kakimir> what are you trying to say? 2016-03-24T03:41:47 < kakimir> anything that does the jubs 2016-03-24T03:44:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T03:46:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-24T03:46:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T03:51:20 < upgrdman> damn it. trolled myself for 2 fucking days. couldn't get can bus working. schematic listed some uart pins as if they were can pins. 2016-03-24T03:51:46 < upgrdman> on top of that, i forgot that the can periph takes 16 clocks per bit, so my prescaler was off by 16x. 2016-03-24T03:53:59 < ohsix> this week in cocks: http://i.imgur.com/7UTlvplg.jpg 2016-03-24T03:54:01 < ohsix> dongs: ^ 2016-03-24T03:55:09 < ohsix> i should have bought them, a clever designer managed to get that past everyone and into the store 2016-03-24T04:06:29 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZhE0IFhpVQ 2016-03-24T04:08:15 < Laurenceb_> I sexually identify as graph paper. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of sorting over the grid drawing beautiful graphs on math homework 2016-03-24T04:08:53 < ohsix> dongs: pls stop i have to remove these from watch history each time 2016-03-24T04:10:12 < dongs> vapin'faggin' 2016-03-24T04:11:19 < kakimir> i get german ads in youtube now as chrome fucked itself and removed all my filters 2016-03-24T04:11:43 < ohsix> mhmrhhmhm 2016-03-24T04:11:49 < ohsix> jb weld not cured 2016-03-24T04:11:57 < ohsix> too cold in here 2016-03-24T04:12:34 < kakimir> google started new profiling for me like it's learning how to walk again.. it only adverts some motor design and control softwares 2016-03-24T04:13:07 < ohsix> i got rid of all the incandescent lights i'd use to heat this :<<< 2016-03-24T04:14:48 < kakimir> dongs: that nigga *inhale* has some *inhale* hard time to breathe 2016-03-24T04:17:07 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gV7exZmql4 windtunnel testing very kewl 2016-03-24T04:18:02 < kakimir> I have never seen all these technicques 2016-03-24T04:18:28 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzyhbkwybagxubrx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-24T04:19:14 < kakimir> dude goes inside the tunnel 2016-03-24T04:19:22 < kakimir> and listens layers with some tube 2016-03-24T04:20:12 < kakimir> china clay method too 2016-03-24T04:20:14 < kakimir> so kewl 2016-03-24T04:24:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:f03d:be5f:3e36:8010] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T04:25:38 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/Wg4z6f7 2016-03-24T04:25:45 < upgrdman> anyone know if 11bit or 29bit CAN IDs are more common? 2016-03-24T04:25:49 < Laurenceb_> who needs 2nd amendment 2016-03-24T04:27:21 < ohsix> upgrdman: no but it's usually the smaller if there's an option 2016-03-24T04:27:28 < ohsix> like with i2c addressing 2016-03-24T04:30:27 < dongs> upgrdman: 11 is 2.0A and 11/29 is 2.0B 2016-03-24T04:30:32 < dongs> so it depedns wahtever your shit uses. 2016-03-24T04:30:45 < upgrdman> 2.0B 2016-03-24T04:30:53 < upgrdman> which is why i ask 2016-03-24T04:31:08 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: is it required to be a hunter? 2016-03-24T04:31:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:f03d:be5f:3e36:8010] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T04:31:41 < kakimir> or pro shooter 2016-03-24T04:32:28 < Laurenceb_> something like that 2016-03-24T04:32:29 < kakimir> in murica you can have automatic weapons 2016-03-24T04:32:58 < kakimir> for shoot outs and stuff 2016-03-24T04:33:14 < kakimir> drive-bys 2016-03-24T04:48:13 < upgrdman> am american, can confirm 2016-03-24T04:52:18 < ohsix> guh why are anchovies a pizza topping 2016-03-24T04:53:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:f03d:be5f:3e36:8010] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-24T05:04:14 < englishman> Laurenceb_: can you ship me some awesome deactivated machinegun 2016-03-24T05:04:18 < englishman> i heard theres like shitloads in uk 2016-03-24T05:04:23 < englishman> bren guns, fals, 20mm autos 2016-03-24T05:04:45 < englishman> maybe something tripod mounted for the front lawn 2016-03-24T05:05:40 < englishman> aint no coloured folk round here 2016-03-24T05:05:48 < englishman> except the ones that drive for dhl, and i like them 2016-03-24T05:08:27 < englishman> he should upgrade to lcd 2016-03-24T05:09:13 < dongs> oled 2016-03-24T05:09:40 < Laurenceb_> lougie baird visionomatic 2016-03-24T05:10:28 < Laurenceb_> lol I just watched bbc emdrive documentary 2016-03-24T05:10:33 < Laurenceb_> what a load of shit 2016-03-24T05:10:35 < englishman> link! 2016-03-24T05:10:53 < Laurenceb_> it ip blocked 2016-03-24T05:11:00 < englishman> your problem not mine 2016-03-24T05:11:05 < dongs> you cant, its iplayer only 2016-03-24T05:11:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mgxf 2016-03-24T05:12:05 < Laurenceb_> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/xindex.php,qaction=dlattach,3Btopic=39772.0,3Battach=1106682,3Bimage.pagespeed.ic.TvsQke4owt.jpg 2016-03-24T05:12:15 < Laurenceb_> "engineer" 2016-03-24T05:12:49 < dongs> why so much care for emtroll 2016-03-24T05:12:56 < dongs> does it personally affect you 2016-03-24T05:12:59 < Laurenceb_> cuz lulz 2016-03-24T05:13:03 < dongs> eys but 2016-03-24T05:13:38 < englishman> its like zano 2016-03-24T05:13:43 < englishman> does it personally affect you? 2016-03-24T05:17:08 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39772.0;attach=1106690;image 2016-03-24T05:17:12 < ohsix> dongs: i took that picture basically cuz you'd find it funny, did you see it??????????/ 2016-03-24T05:17:14 < Laurenceb_> brain control system 2016-03-24T05:19:48 < englishman> nice to know your tv tax goes towards the production of this qualtiy entertainment Laurenceb_ 2016-03-24T05:21:28 < dongs> Did you know? Official CNN channel on youtube is not "verified". But random vapists and reactiondudes are. 2016-03-24T05:21:48 < ohsix> how did you figure out that word, 'reaction' 2016-03-24T05:22:00 < ohsix> vapist is a nice turn of phrase 2016-03-24T05:22:22 < ohsix> quick i don't have any incandescent light bulbs, what's another likely source of heat that won't melt plastic that i can put on this thing 2016-03-24T05:22:24 < Laurenceb_> video blogging is the most retarded thing ever 2016-03-24T05:22:24 < dongs> there was some recent drama about some shithead trademarking reaction 2016-03-24T05:22:40 < Laurenceb_> like why the hell would I want to watch blogging and a video 2016-03-24T05:22:42 < Laurenceb_> whyyy 2016-03-24T05:22:47 < ohsix> dongs: oh the fine brothers thing, i thought you were talking about reactionaries 2016-03-24T05:23:01 < Laurenceb_> fake reactionaries :P 2016-03-24T05:23:07 < Laurenceb_> with patreon 2016-03-24T05:23:08 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: my life is dull and a guy recording himself once a day is doing more than i am, usually 2016-03-24T05:23:11 < dongs> nobody wanted to read blogging, so they started pushing it into your face 2016-03-24T05:23:17 < Laurenceb_> also gopro camera advice guy 2016-03-24T05:23:30 < Laurenceb_> who video blogs the gopro manual one sentence per half an hour 2016-03-24T05:23:47 < Laurenceb_> mr pregnant is good 2016-03-24T05:25:09 < dongs> autism6: nobody to blame for that one except yourself 2016-03-24T05:26:55 < ohsix> that is part of blaming myself 2016-03-24T05:27:05 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae150.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-24T05:27:07 < ohsix> publicly embarassing myself at how little i do is how i do stuff 2016-03-24T05:27:21 < ohsix> last few days i actually did quite a bit ;D 2016-03-24T05:28:20 < dongs> crt made a funnie] 2016-03-24T05:30:17 < ohsix> lookingi supe rjesus like today 2016-03-24T05:30:23 < ohsix> dongs: did you see shuttlecocks, cmon 2016-03-24T05:36:14 < englishman> Laurenceb_: this mockumentary is pretty fucking lawl 2016-03-24T05:36:42 < englishman> some history channel ancient aliens level production 2016-03-24T05:37:51 < ReadError> about EMDRIVE? 2016-03-24T05:38:49 < ohsix> wat mocumentary 2016-03-24T05:39:29 < englishman> and other related science trollings 2016-03-24T05:40:16 < ohsix> force awakens is out already? 2016-03-24T05:40:46 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac3e7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T05:41:10 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/ZmYgoCI.jpg 2016-03-24T05:41:24 < dongs> yeah april 4th or osmething on amazon 2016-03-24T05:41:41 < dongs> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B018FK66TU 2016-03-24T05:43:41 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-24T05:44:18 < ohsix> i guess it is one of those movies that will sell tons of discs so they worry less about stock getting to places it could leak early 2016-03-24T05:47:19 < ohsix> dongs: nice, is that like the sad robot person that draws a picture to go with phrase 2016-03-24T05:52:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-24T05:55:01 < dongs> thats what, like $1000 real money? 2016-03-24T05:55:39 < dongs> not much, working and being sick. 2016-03-24T05:55:50 < dongs> aods 2016-03-24T05:55:51 < dongs> aids 2016-03-24T05:57:01 < ohsix> you gotta go with GRIDS and ignore everything now known about the disease 2016-03-24T05:57:08 < ohsix> advanced techniques 2016-03-24T05:57:30 < dongs> silabs evalboard showed up 2016-03-24T05:57:30 < dongs> nice 2016-03-24T05:57:46 < ohsix> fedex? 2016-03-24T05:57:58 < ohsix> i think you've said already, but wat part 2016-03-24T05:58:32 < dongs> when i said they shipped it. 2016-03-24T05:59:29 < ohsix> but 2016-03-24T05:59:31 < ohsix> what part 2016-03-24T06:01:04 < ohsix> schneider electric keeps trying to give me one of their ethernet servo controller things 2016-03-24T06:01:47 < ohsix> http://motion.schneider-electric.com/products/mdriveplus_overview.html 2016-03-24T06:02:06 < ohsix> dunno what i would do with one 2016-03-24T06:03:59 < dongs> heh novastar 2016-03-24T06:04:32 < dongs> well according to a guy who doesnt work there it sucks 2016-03-24T06:04:39 < dongs> but that might be cuz he worked for a competitor 2016-03-24T06:04:57 < dongs> manncorp 2016-03-24T06:06:47 < dongs> https://www.manncorp.com/reflow-soldering/batch-convection-reflow-ovens 2016-03-24T06:06:54 < dongs> at least some of these look like rebranded chinaovens 2016-03-24T06:06:59 < dongs> with assdroid GUI or somethign 2016-03-24T06:09:48 < dongs> but if novastar has a local dealer yeah 2016-03-24T06:09:51 < dongs> just go with their shit 2016-03-24T06:09:56 < dongs> i think its all same rebranded china trash anyway. 2016-03-24T06:10:44 < dongs> lll no thats just a bigger version of T962 2016-03-24T06:11:04 < dongs> has all teh same problems 2016-03-24T06:11:10 < dongs> like its not proper convection 2016-03-24T06:11:15 < dongs> so only center of the shit gets hot 2016-03-24T06:12:06 < dongs> http://www.smtmax.com/detail.php?id=227 2016-03-24T06:12:07 < dongs> nice 2016-03-24T06:13:44 < dongs> R2COM: count parts on reel 2016-03-24T06:13:48 < englishman> i wonder how many of those digikey has 2016-03-24T06:13:56 < ohsix> http://www.nytimes.com/video/t-magazine/100000003966979/how-to-interview-rihanna.html 2016-03-24T06:14:18 < dongs> R2STONER: to count parts 2016-03-24T06:15:41 < dongs> when each part is $5 adn there's 5000 of htem on a reel, people do 2016-03-24T06:24:18 < dongs> m,ouser showed up too 2016-03-24T06:24:31 < dongs> i hate their packing 2016-03-24T06:24:35 < dongs> very environmentally unfriendly 2016-03-24T06:25:08 < ohsix> what is it 2016-03-24T06:25:31 < ohsix> the ti paper stuff? 2016-03-24T06:25:50 < dongs> no if it waw spaper it would be ok 2016-03-24T06:25:55 < dongs> its all plastic bags and tied with some tape shit 2016-03-24T06:26:26 < dongs> time to get siiiiiiiiiick 2016-03-24T06:26:27 < dongs> bbl 2016-03-24T06:29:40 < ohsix> http://xdk.bosch-connectivity.com/ heh 2016-03-24T06:30:03 < ohsix> i ate some anchovies and could barely restrain convulsive reflex 2016-03-24T06:30:19 < ohsix> did not expect that 2016-03-24T06:30:29 < ohsix> it's the bones :< 2016-03-24T06:35:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.66] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T06:38:05 < ohsix> wtf http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/23/471599058/phife-dawg-a-founding-member-of-a-tribe-called-quest-dies-at-45 :< 2016-03-24T06:38:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:b4bc:76e0:d65b:2794] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T07:17:40 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-24T07:31:41 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niQJZvoYlw 2016-03-24T07:31:44 < ReadError> good ass day 2016-03-24T07:31:52 < ReadError> openpnp has bottom vision ;)))) 2016-03-24T07:34:16 < ds2> 0201 with 0.3mm BGAs? 2016-03-24T07:36:29 < ReadError> well that has more to do with mechanics 2016-03-24T07:36:50 < ReadError> I am using servos on mine 2016-03-24T07:36:58 < ReadError> so very accurate 2016-03-24T07:37:33 < ds2> what does that mean? +/-0.00001" repeatability? 2016-03-24T07:37:45 < ds2> or merely 0.040"? 2016-03-24T07:37:49 < ReadError> ehhh i duno what will get that low 2016-03-24T07:38:12 < ds2> 10millionth isn't that low... granite gantries...air bearings 2016-03-24T07:38:24 < ds2> at that range, temperature is the main issue 2016-03-24T07:39:23 < ReadError> eh ya but something that low isnt necessary since alignment during reflow 2016-03-24T07:40:34 < ds2> then what is very in this context? 2016-03-24T07:41:41 < ReadError> eh with steppers I was hitting 0.01mm repeatability 2016-03-24T07:47:27 < ohsix> aside from what it literally sounds like, wat is bottom vision 2016-03-24T07:49:02 < ReadError> it can determine part alignment or position on the nozzle 2016-03-24T07:49:09 < ReadError> or detect mis-picks 2016-03-24T07:50:03 < ohsix> oh 2016-03-24T07:50:17 < ohsix> i thought it took cpitures of the other side D: 2016-03-24T07:51:02 < ReadError> it does 2016-03-24T07:51:09 < ReadError> it looks at the bottom 2016-03-24T07:51:20 < ohsix> of the tool tho 2016-03-24T07:51:43 < ReadError> like the nozzle at an angle? 2016-03-24T07:58:24 < ds2> 0.0004 Hmmmm 2016-03-24T07:58:28 < ds2> lead screw? 2016-03-24T07:58:58 < ds2> 0.0004 isn't bad (compared to the 3D printers ;)) 2016-03-24T08:05:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-24T08:14:29 < ReadError> where did you get 0.0004 2016-03-24T08:19:04 < ds2> you said it 2016-03-24T08:19:12 < ds2> I am using standard machinist units 2016-03-24T08:21:53 < ReadError> hmm i said 0.01mm 2016-03-24T08:22:07 < ReadError> is 0.0004 inches? 2016-03-24T08:23:40 < ds2> yes 2016-03-24T08:23:49 < ds2> most machinhes 2016-03-24T08:23:55 < ds2> machinist use inches 2016-03-24T08:29:04 < ohsix> milz 2016-03-24T08:32:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T08:43:19 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-24T08:44:02 < ohsix> nah 2016-03-24T08:44:08 < ohsix> wax 2016-03-24T08:47:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T08:47:58 < ohsix> suds? 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2016-03-24T10:27:44 < ohsix> upgrdman: it can do memory to memory dma 2016-03-24T10:27:59 < ohsix> there might be an interrupt source that makes that work with $any mmapped io 2016-03-24T10:28:14 < upgrdman> speaking of memory, the lpc1768 splits into into two banks, and lpcshitxpresso cant auto place stuff in the second back, so you have to use __SHITS to flag where you want stuff 2016-03-24T10:28:47 < upgrdman> ohsix, m2m dma wont help. how the fuck will a trigger a can transfer 2016-03-24T10:28:53 < ohsix> you usually wouldn't want it to do that, might have to do long jumps for no reasons 2016-03-24T10:29:11 < ohsix> upgrdman: dunno, i thought i remembered st' being able to do peripheral dma like that 2016-03-24T10:29:15 < upgrdman> and can be can, max payload is 8 bytes 2016-03-24T10:29:42 < upgrdman> so i can get to manually flood the bus for a few hundred bytes when i need to 2016-03-24T10:30:00 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T10:33:58 < ohsix> i don't know a lot about can, does it make sense to have dma support? 2016-03-24T10:36:04 < ohsix> wow their datasheets are a bit annoying, no index at the frotn, gotta go to the rear 2016-03-24T10:36:05 < ReadError> ohsix http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUNSEN-BURNER-WITH-SPOON-ATTATCHMENT-PORTABLE-/172143544568?hash=item28148e08f8:g:bJQAAOSwrklVPr2W 2016-03-24T10:36:21 < ohsix> haha lauging befor ei even click 2016-03-24T10:36:23 < ohsix> awesome 2016-03-24T10:36:29 < ohsix> from tennessee hoo boy 2016-03-24T10:36:56 < upgrdman> ohsix, well can is like a more complex spi or i2c or uart. 2016-03-24T10:37:16 < ohsix> ya 2016-03-24T10:37:20 < upgrdman> and i would think dma makes perfect sense, ESPECIALLY since can messages are limited to 8 bytes 2016-03-24T10:37:22 < ohsix> it has bus arbitration and shit doesn't it 2016-03-24T10:37:22 < upgrdman> so 2016-03-24T10:37:37 < upgrdman> if you need to send a fuckton of bytes, you get to split it into many messages 2016-03-24T10:37:47 < upgrdman> and no dma -> you're fucked 2016-03-24T10:38:08 < upgrdman> ohsix, yes, arbitration 2016-03-24T10:38:28 < upgrdman> also nice that you can do long as cables. like >40 meters depending on speed 2016-03-24T10:40:18 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/gro4O4T.jpg 2016-03-24T10:40:21 < ReadError> new vac 2016-03-24T10:40:29 < ReadError> pulls damn near perfect 2016-03-24T10:44:25 < ohsix> upgrdman: istr the dma controller on the stm32 being smart enough to wait to write to peripherals behind the scenes 2016-03-24T10:44:32 < zyp> upgrdman, I disagree on the comparison wrt spi/i2c/uart 2016-03-24T10:44:49 < zyp> spi/i2c/uart are all byte protocols, can is a framed protocol 2016-03-24T10:44:57 < zyp> more like a less complex usb or ethernet 2016-03-24T10:45:11 < upgrdman> ok that's a better way to say it 2016-03-24T10:45:26 < upgrdman> i just meant "protocol for communication shitz" 2016-03-24T10:45:26 < ohsix> there's alot of error modes and stuff you have to explicitly deal with too 2016-03-24T10:45:42 < upgrdman> ohsix, dunno. im bitching about the lpc1768 2016-03-24T10:45:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-24T10:45:50 < upgrdman> since i have to use it at work for a project 2016-03-24T10:46:07 < ohsix> right 2016-03-24T10:46:08 < zyp> yeah, and if you want to send something larger than 8 bytes on can, you have to use a higher level protocol for fragmentation 2016-03-24T10:46:21 < zyp> which complicates how you would use DMA 2016-03-24T10:46:28 < upgrdman> ya 2016-03-24T10:46:41 < ohsix> not suggesting use stm32, but i'm looking for indications the lpc is the same / similar 2016-03-24T10:46:55 < upgrdman> but would still be easier to do that and feed DMA a big as uint8_t[] to shit toward the CAN periph 2016-03-24T10:47:27 < upgrdman> instead of fucking with it every interrupt 2016-03-24T10:47:27 < ReadError> i heard about some differential i2c the other day 2016-03-24T10:47:32 < ohsix> h3h 2016-03-24T10:47:51 < zyp> upgrdman, idk, it doesn't sound very useful to me 2016-03-24T10:47:52 < ohsix> with dma and gpio, and an r2r ladder os omething, you could do a fast adc arduino style with dma 2016-03-24T10:48:48 < upgrdman> zyp, imagine you need to send like 200 bytes with CAN. it would be so nice to split them up, using whatever fag protocol, and then feed DMA an array of bytes and have it send them out 8 at a time 2016-03-24T10:49:15 < ohsix> pretty hard to put arbitrary junk in a peripheral; best they usually do is fix the protocol for you 2016-03-24T10:49:22 < ohsix> kind of like shockburst stuff on the nrf24 2016-03-24T10:49:33 < zyp> upgrdman, what about IDs? do you reuse the same ID for all, or do you use part of the ID as a sequence number? etc… 2016-03-24T10:49:42 < zyp> there's lots of ways to do the fragmentation protocol 2016-03-24T10:49:55 < upgrdman> same for all, but ya, i know its complex, but doable 2016-03-24T10:50:14 < upgrdman> a nice dma periph would make it possible to do either 2016-03-24T10:51:07 -!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-24T10:52:21 < zyp> good morning, crt 2016-03-24T10:59:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-24T11:01:43 < ohsix> k ya the dma controller on the stm32 is similar if not the same ip; and the 'increment transfer' stuff i read into it was basically how they wrote that peripherals supported dma 2016-03-24T11:04:59 -!- CRTT [~~@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:06:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.107] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:12:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:23:10 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:26:25 < upgrdman> is crt a 5yr old 2016-03-24T11:27:13 < upgrdman> lol 2016-03-24T11:30:04 < upgrdman> upgrade man 2016-03-24T11:30:41 < upgrdman> i picked it when i was 12, and the only pc i had was a piece of shit that i upgraded over time after saving my pennies 2016-03-24T11:31:00 < upgrdman> now im 100% pro 2016-03-24T11:31:06 < upgrdman> surface PRO 4 even 2016-03-24T11:36:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-35.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:39:55 < tecdroid> hi crt 2016-03-24T11:40:03 < tecdroid> it isn't that late here... DX 2016-03-24T11:40:04 < tecdroid> XD 2016-03-24T11:44:21 < ohsix> heyooo peter serifinowicz is the new tick 2016-03-24T11:44:47 < ohsix> oh on amazon, nevermind 2016-03-24T11:48:28 < ReadError> wat 2016-03-24T11:50:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:53:44 -!- dobson [~dobson@2607:5300:100:200::160d] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T11:54:38 < ReadError> got some new pump tracks for us crt 2016-03-24T11:55:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-24T12:19:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-24T12:20:38 -!- dobson [~dobson@2607:5300:100:200::160d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-24T12:31:21 -!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T12:47:59 < ohsix> sump? 2016-03-24T12:49:16 < ohsix> holy shit rob ford died 2016-03-24T12:50:04 < ohsix> i wonder how long he had cancer 2016-03-24T12:50:15 < ohsix> i'd be doing coke and meth and drinking all the time too 2016-03-24T12:52:26 < ohsix> Ford underwent surgery at Mount Sinai Hospital in May 2015, what was then considered his last chance to survive pleomorphic liposarcoma. 2016-03-24T12:52:31 < ohsix> he did 2016-03-24T12:52:33 < ohsix> he's dead now 2016-03-24T13:10:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.113] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T13:30:04 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-24T13:52:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-24T13:53:29 < dongs> nope 2016-03-24T13:53:32 < dongs> im still stoned 2016-03-24T13:54:51 < dongs> VVVVVAPE NATIONNNNNNNNN 2016-03-24T13:55:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-35.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-24T14:12:48 < ReadError> dongs you do flowers or concentrates ? 2016-03-24T14:30:25 < dongs> afghanistan is losing to japs 2016-03-24T14:30:28 < dongs> 5:0 lol. 2016-03-24T14:35:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.112] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T14:43:09 < BrainDamage> crt: the unicode standard has like 10 glyph for trains 2016-03-24T14:43:13 < BrainDamage> and as many for cats 2016-03-24T14:43:41 < BrainDamage> 🚂 🚊 🚉 🚞 🚆 🚄 🚅 🚈 🚇 🚝 🚋 🚃 🚟 2016-03-24T14:43:48 < PeterM> is there 10 for cats being hit by trains *hopes* 2016-03-24T14:44:04 < BrainDamage> not that i know of 2016-03-24T14:44:18 < PeterM> missed opportunities 2016-03-24T14:44:18 < Thorn> and A PILE OF POO 2016-03-24T14:44:39 < Thorn> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4a9/index.htm 2016-03-24T14:48:04 < ReadError> suggestions for a nice inexpensive ADC ? 2016-03-24T14:48:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-24T14:53:42 < ReadError> voltage too high 2016-03-24T14:54:01 < ReadError> and a divider seems meh 2016-03-24T14:54:06 < ReadError> i want to use a nice legit ADC 2016-03-24T14:54:16 < aandrew> ReadError: "a nice adc" means nothing 2016-03-24T14:54:48 < ReadError> 1 channel, not 400$, SPI 2016-03-24T15:02:24 < PeterM> mrar specs ReadError 2016-03-24T15:02:44 < PeterM> like ENOB and sample rate would be nice 2016-03-24T15:02:58 < ReadError> doesnt need to be high sample rate 2016-03-24T15:03:06 < ReadError> but high precision 2016-03-24T15:03:19 < ReadError> not much noise 2016-03-24T15:03:40 < lorenzo> ReadError: I use ADS1110 from TI 2016-03-24T15:03:45 < ReadError> maybe some kinda filtering on the IC 2016-03-24T15:03:53 < lorenzo> delta-sigma, internal ref, pga, i2c 2016-03-24T15:04:02 < lorenzo> 16-bit 2016-03-24T15:04:12 < lorenzo> 2.89 eur / 1ku 2016-03-24T15:06:26 < lorenzo> there are a few more-or-less equivalent SPI ones, faster and pricier ofc 2016-03-24T15:06:48 < ReadError> is that a feature some ADCs have? like 'software' filtering 2016-03-24T15:06:52 < ReadError> but in hardware 2016-03-24T15:06:57 < lorenzo> what kind of filtering? 2016-03-24T15:07:07 < ReadError> smoothing 2016-03-24T15:07:17 < ReadError> the voltage wont be changing very fast 2016-03-24T15:07:32 < ReadError> I can do moving average in code I guess 2016-03-24T15:07:48 < PeterM> ix http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1669442.pdf suitable for oyur needs 2016-03-24T15:08:16 < lorenzo> I don't think there's any ADC with on-chip DSP capabilities 2016-03-24T15:08:29 < lorenzo> or if there is, it's called a DSP and doesn't cost 2.89 eur 2016-03-24T15:09:12 < ReadError> i2c :(((((( 2016-03-24T15:11:09 < PeterM> hahaha 2016-03-24T15:11:20 < PeterM> i hate i2c probably more than hte next guy 2016-03-24T15:16:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T15:28:10 < englishman> an indiegogo i can really get behind https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fast-nein-the-fast-the-fuhrer#/ 2016-03-24T15:31:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-24T15:32:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T15:36:03 < PeterM> englishman, interesting 2016-03-24T15:36:57 < PeterM> although ##stm32 being the channel it is, i expected it to be a butt shaped fleshlight or something and "an indiegogo i can really get behind" being a terrible pun. 2016-03-24T15:40:03 < englishman> ##stm32 mater race 2016-03-24T15:40:56 < PeterM> yes, exactly 2016-03-24T15:51:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T15:59:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T16:08:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T16:12:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-24T16:13:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T16:29:28 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-03-24T16:30:41 -!- Nutter [~hehe@server.mesophase.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T16:47:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T16:48:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T16:59:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-24T17:01:17 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-24T17:06:57 -!- tecdroid_ [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:11:49 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@198.199.88.180] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:11:57 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:13:19 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: englishman, mitrax, ColdKeyboard, BrainDamage, LeelooMinai, emeb_mac, tecdroid, bilboquet 2016-03-24T17:13:19 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2016-03-24T17:13:20 -!- englishman_ is now known as englishman 2016-03-24T17:19:37 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:27:08 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:29:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:29:37 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:29:37 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:29:37 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:39:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:40:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-24T17:45:43 -!- tecdroid_ [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T17:52:44 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orkqlnsupcrmbbgm] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T17:59:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-24T18:05:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.112.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T18:28:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-166.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T18:31:10 < kakimir> did you say I can openocd with remote server!? 2016-03-24T18:31:27 < kakimir> just realized I have another computer ready to go 2016-03-24T18:31:29 < kakimir> lunix one 2016-03-24T18:31:40 < kakimir> has rs232, usb.. all that sweet stuff 2016-03-24T18:31:47 < kakimir> wifi too 2016-03-24T18:32:10 < kakimir> that is really good for 2003 laptop 2016-03-24T18:35:04 < PaulFertser> kakimir: sure you can, why not? 2016-03-24T18:35:22 < Laurenceb_> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-sex-robot-wit/ 2016-03-24T18:35:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.72] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T18:35:33 < Laurenceb_> ai sound good 2016-03-24T18:37:33 < kakimir> what about over internets? 2016-03-24T18:38:00 < PaulFertser> kakimir: can work too, it's tcp/ip, duh 2016-03-24T18:38:27 < kakimir> how about practically? 2016-03-24T18:38:41 < kakimir> I wish I could control my scope over ip 2016-03-24T18:38:50 < kakimir> and actually not operate it locally 2016-03-24T18:39:00 < kakimir> and actually have robotic arm to place probe 2016-03-24T18:39:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T18:40:06 < kakimir> when it hands down it's hand down and when it's programming and measurements I want clear space 2016-03-24T18:40:19 < kakimir> I need so big scope I can connect everything 2016-03-24T18:40:54 < kakimir> hmm.. testboard witg pogosticks and some muxing on board 2016-03-24T18:41:10 < kakimir> bolt it on and change channels over ip 2016-03-24T18:42:16 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: very muh lulz... singularity is near 2016-03-24T18:43:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-24T18:48:53 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-24T18:56:10 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T18:56:51 < Laurenceb_> arg wtf 2016-03-24T18:57:01 < Laurenceb_> pcbtrain closed for 8 days over easter 2016-03-24T18:57:25 < Laurenceb_> and people wonder why manufacturing in EU is seen as a waste of time 2016-03-24T18:58:26 < Laurenceb_> time to order cheap chinashit 2016-03-24T18:58:58 < Sync> why the fuck do you even innovate over easter 2016-03-24T18:59:14 < Laurenceb_> cuz I have like 3 days off 2016-03-24T18:59:19 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-24T18:59:31 < Sync> doing it wrong 2016-03-24T19:00:05 < Laurenceb_> I could order from china now and it'd arrive before pcbfail O_o 2016-03-24T19:01:24 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T19:04:56 < BrainDamage> china closes for weeks on the chinese new year 2016-03-24T19:05:01 < BrainDamage> i don't see the difference 2016-03-24T19:09:08 < englishman> Laurenceb_: i cant believe i watched that whole bbc thing 2016-03-24T19:09:12 < englishman> i feel dumber now 2016-03-24T19:09:26 < Laurenceb_> haha yeah that was full retard 2016-03-24T19:09:41 < kakimir> just inpatient youngsters trying to hussle 2016-03-24T19:09:47 < Laurenceb_> BrainDamage: I've never seen delays of more than a few years 2016-03-24T19:09:51 < Laurenceb_> lulwut days 2016-03-24T19:09:59 < englishman> old dude gest 15 years funding from BAE based on a sketch of a plane with green stuff coming out hte bottom 2016-03-24T19:10:01 < kakimir> in big scheme some week doesn't mean nothing 2016-03-24T19:10:19 < kakimir> englishman: poison? 2016-03-24T19:10:38 < aandrew> what BBC thing is that? I could use feeling dumber 2016-03-24T19:10:42 < englishman> gravity poison 2016-03-24T19:10:47 < Laurenceb_> I didnt have the energy to watch that part 2016-03-24T19:10:55 < Laurenceb_> skipped to emdrive 2016-03-24T19:11:07 < englishman> that part was megafail too 2016-03-24T19:11:13 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-03-24T19:11:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mgxf 2016-03-24T19:11:24 < kakimir> when did bs research become a thing Laurenceb_ ? 2016-03-24T19:11:35 < Sync> since reasearch was inventend 2016-03-24T19:11:37 < Laurenceb_> ^ vpn/ip block is not my job to fix sorry 2016-03-24T19:11:39 < Sync> -n 2016-03-24T19:11:40 < kakimir> you know as nasaspaceflight follower 2016-03-24T19:11:58 < englishman> aandrew: pm 2016-03-24T19:12:11 < aandrew> thanks 2016-03-24T19:12:11 < kakimir> but in traditional fields like aerospace 2016-03-24T19:12:32 < aandrew> I can draw a picture like that, gimme some UKP funding 2016-03-24T19:13:39 < kakimir> how you name your debug servers? 2016-03-24T19:15:01 < Laurenceb_> my wut?? 2016-03-24T19:15:36 < kakimir> thing you use to extend your information system physically so you can remotelly debug 2016-03-24T19:19:35 < aandrew> sounds like screen 2016-03-24T19:20:53 < kakimir> I dont need solutions but to come up with some stupid name for ddns 2016-03-24T19:21:54 < aandrew> oh you want us to name your shit 2016-03-24T19:21:59 < aandrew> call it feature 2016-03-24T19:22:02 < aandrew> done 2016-03-24T19:22:55 < kakimir> feature.ddns.net - okay 2016-03-24T19:29:43 < lorenzo> kakimir: https://namingschemes.com/ 2016-03-24T19:31:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T19:32:10 < kakimir> cool 2016-03-24T19:32:33 < kakimir> and so nerd 2016-03-24T19:33:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T19:35:17 < kakimir> makes all sense if you have 7servers 2016-03-24T19:35:42 < kakimir> to name those by some group or list of things 2016-03-24T19:35:51 < kakimir> totally unrelated 2016-03-24T19:41:14 < kakimir> I wonder the version combatibility of openocd server and client 2016-03-24T19:44:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-03-24T19:51:54 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T19:57:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-166.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-24T20:23:22 < mitrax> kakimir: practically it works fine (openocd over the internet), i use it all the time 2016-03-24T20:24:02 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.66] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T20:28:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:ad5f:3783:a7a5:907e] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T20:33:24 < kakimir> where to where? 2016-03-24T20:33:28 < kakimir> jub to home? 2016-03-24T20:33:32 < kakimir> jub at home? 2016-03-24T20:35:53 < FatalNIX> hmm, I forget how that worked... 2016-03-24T20:36:20 < FatalNIX> with ARM assembly in Keil, anyone know how you specify the inverse of a number? for example, if I want to do something like and rx, ~#foobar 2016-03-24T20:37:03 < FatalNIX> I can't just do ~foobar right? 2016-03-24T20:37:52 < FatalNIX> ,aine #~foobar ? 2016-03-24T20:37:52 < FatalNIX> maybe* 2016-03-24T20:40:57 < mitrax> kakimir: my workplace to a guy i work with's workplace 2016-03-24T20:41:45 < kakimir> jub to jub 2016-03-24T20:42:54 -!- bradfirj_ is now known as bradfirj 2016-03-24T20:43:41 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T20:44:13 < Laurenceb_> nice 2016-03-24T20:44:23 < Laurenceb_> cp21xx config tool runs on linux 2016-03-24T20:46:26 < Laurenceb_> just need some enclosures and my steval sp1ml dongles will be totally pro 2016-03-24T20:46:57 < Laurenceb_> also scalpel off the "for evaluation use only" :D 2016-03-24T20:50:13 < Laurenceb_> https://sli.mg/ONsCdi 2016-03-24T20:51:25 < mitrax> ahahahahah 2016-03-24T20:51:59 < aandrew> hahaha 2016-03-24T20:55:10 < mitrax> someone needs a dremel 2016-03-24T20:56:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T20:59:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T21:01:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T21:01:45 < PaulFertser> mitrax: are you not using ssh for that, just gdb serial over internet? 2016-03-24T21:02:28 < mitrax> PaulFertser: reverse ssh tunnel for convenience 2016-03-24T21:03:03 < PaulFertser> mitrax: yeah, ok :) 2016-03-24T21:04:16 < mitrax> PaulFertser: i've done it directly a few times but it's troublesome if you're behind NAT, so usually i just ssh from the box that runs openocd, to my box where the IDE runs 2016-03-24T21:04:44 < kakimir> ssh and... do you need some tunnel there? 2016-03-24T21:05:08 < kakimir> what about when there is windows ide 2016-03-24T21:05:09 < BrainDamage> ssh doesthe tunnel 2016-03-24T21:05:29 < mitrax> kakimir: i run windows, i use visual studio 2016-03-24T21:05:37 < kakimir> how the tunnel is made? 2016-03-24T21:06:18 < mitrax> kakimir: that's a functionnality of openssh, you use an ssh client e.g plink and tell it to create a tunnel 2016-03-24T21:06:58 < kakimir> what you need at "receiver" end? 2016-03-24T21:07:11 < mitrax> what do you call the receiver end 2016-03-24T21:07:14 < BrainDamage> ssh 2016-03-24T21:07:15 < kakimir> IDE end 2016-03-24T21:07:27 < BrainDamage> a ssh client can open a tunnel in either direction 2016-03-24T21:07:43 < BrainDamage> provided it's connected to a ssh server 2016-03-24T21:08:01 < mitrax> kakimir: i run the ssh server on my box (bitvise ssh it's free) 2016-03-24T21:08:27 < kakimir> okay 2016-03-24T21:08:28 < kakimir> makes sense 2016-03-24T21:08:31 < BrainDamage> for ssh client, putty iirc can run tunnels 2016-03-24T21:08:32 < mitrax> kakimir: but it could be the other way around too 2016-03-24T21:08:46 < mitrax> yup, plink is part of putty 2016-03-24T21:09:13 < BrainDamage> /me doesn't understand why it's 2016 and windows doesn't have a builtin ssh client yet 2016-03-24T21:09:14 < kakimir> how is the bitvise client? 2016-03-24T21:09:37 < mitrax> kakimir: you could use it as well but i'm used to putty 2016-03-24T21:09:53 < kakimir> something installs all the putty shiet every time I start on new machine 2016-03-24T21:09:59 < kakimir> plink - it's there 2016-03-24T21:10:13 < kakimir> there is some puttygen 2016-03-24T21:10:38 < kakimir> and putty 2016-03-24T21:10:46 < kakimir> oh it's GOW 2016-03-24T21:15:15 < mitrax> dinner time 2016-03-24T21:15:33 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-24T21:15:37 < kakimir> 21:15 2016-03-24T21:15:51 < kakimir> https://vimeo.com/96985367 2016-03-24T21:24:28 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb-grade link: http://www.i-am-bored.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/no-caps-61-6.jpg 2016-03-24T21:25:47 < kakimir> there is no lesser quality than Laurenceb-grade links 2016-03-24T21:32:57 < lorenzo> heil 2016-03-24T21:37:06 < kakimir> hmm maybe sauna once I while> 2016-03-24T21:43:37 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-24T21:45:28 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-24T21:45:52 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T21:49:32 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-24T21:50:01 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T21:53:43 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T21:54:46 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T21:57:32 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T21:58:43 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:03:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-24T22:04:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@85.7.137.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:05:51 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1458844514540.webm 2016-03-24T22:06:26 < ohsix> is that about ethics 2016-03-24T22:10:57 < Steffanx> and fucking OLD 2016-03-24T22:10:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-24T22:13:12 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:14:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T22:15:21 < fest> Laurenceb_: for some reason I imagined ear tunnels shaped for kensington locks, haha 2016-03-24T22:20:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T22:22:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:22:24 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-24T22:24:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T22:26:46 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@85.7.137.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:28:05 < kakimir> I wonder what is the best time of day to send formal emails? 2016-03-24T22:28:30 < kakimir> as I do not have like a... normal day time stuff 2016-03-24T22:28:47 < kakimir> 3AM the best rite? 2016-03-24T22:29:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@85.7.137.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-24T22:32:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:32:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-24T22:32:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:35:43 < kakimir> found nice doc series from youtubes 2016-03-24T22:35:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T22:36:03 < kakimir> "Worst Place To Be A Pilot" 2016-03-24T22:36:23 < Sync> yes, it is actually not too bad 2016-03-24T22:37:16 < kakimir> indonesian bush pilots.. basically like truckers on ice but made by BBC and is in airlining business in the damn jungle 2016-03-24T22:39:03 < kakimir> imdb 8.7/10 - not bad 2016-03-24T22:41:29 < kakimir> not bbc but some channel 4 2016-03-24T22:41:45 < kakimir> the biggest channel number in UK 2016-03-24T22:42:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T22:45:30 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@85.7.137.33] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-24T22:56:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.112.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-24T23:07:37 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T23:08:01 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:13:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T23:16:43 < Laurenceb_> where can I find usb enclosures? 2016-03-24T23:17:01 < Laurenceb_> I'm seeing "new age enclosures" on mouser, but their range is very limited 2016-03-24T23:18:00 < kakimir> usb enclosure? 2016-03-24T23:18:24 < kakimir> oh dongle enclosures 2016-03-24T23:18:42 < Laurenceb_> inb4 donglegate 2016-03-24T23:20:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:26:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T23:31:02 < ohsix> what makes an enclosure usb 2016-03-24T23:31:05 < ohsix> a connector? 2016-03-24T23:32:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:32:37 < Laurenceb_> a dongle casing 2016-03-24T23:32:38 < ohsix> i'm not looking for them on mouser bro 2016-03-24T23:32:55 < Laurenceb_> yeah but surely someone on here has used similar stuff 2016-03-24T23:33:08 < ohsix> you want a th ing to put a hard drive in? 2016-03-24T23:33:17 < Laurenceb_> seriously... DONGLE 2016-03-24T23:33:26 < ohsix> oh 2016-03-24T23:33:32 < ohsix> haw 2016-03-24T23:33:34 < Laurenceb_> http://www.newageenclosures.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=5 2016-03-24T23:33:44 < ohsix> yea i'm with you now 2016-03-24T23:33:55 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-03-24T23:33:57 < ohsix> how many do you need 2016-03-24T23:34:49 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-24T23:35:26 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:35:27 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-24T23:35:27 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:35:37 < Laurenceb_> why dont you ask them then crt 2016-03-24T23:35:58 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: only a few, thats why I want off the shelf 2016-03-24T23:36:04 < Laurenceb_> I could do SLS nylon 2016-03-24T23:36:16 < Laurenceb_> but then I'd need to do some sort of surface finish 2016-03-24T23:36:23 < Laurenceb_> lol maybe gelcoat would work 2016-03-24T23:36:59 -!- nikomo [~quassel@nikomo.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:44:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ColdKeyboard, LeelooMinai, mitrax 2016-03-24T23:46:44 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/6OAiUU.jpg 2016-03-24T23:47:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-24T23:48:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:50:52 < ohsix> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5585082/?ref_=tt_cl_t1 2016-03-24T23:51:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-24T23:54:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-24T23:58:35 < kakimir> mainloop doesn't have in it's scope any of functions defined above 2016-03-24T23:58:40 < kakimir> what the poo 2016-03-24T23:58:51 < kakimir> inline? 2016-03-24T23:59:33 < kakimir> need static? --- Day changed Fri Mar 25 2016 2016-03-25T00:00:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mitrax, ColdKeyboard, LeelooMinai 2016-03-25T00:00:47 < kakimir> inline uint16_t spi_read(void){//Read 2 byte word out of SPI data register 2016-03-25T00:01:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T00:02:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T00:07:08 < Laurenceb_> Shawyers secret invention 2016-03-25T00:07:10 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39772.0;attach=1106690;image 2016-03-25T00:07:18 < Laurenceb_> coaxial personal helicopter 2016-03-25T00:08:09 < Sync> very pro 2016-03-25T00:08:10 < kakimir> remove that ridiculous cage 2016-03-25T00:08:23 < kakimir> helicopters are meant to be dangerous 2016-03-25T00:09:19 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-25T00:09:41 < ohsix> almost all the work into making them into a vehicle is about making them as safe as possible, doesn't that conflict with what it is 'meant' to be 2016-03-25T00:10:35 < Laurenceb_> maybe emdrive is just a troll so he can scam money for his personal helicopter 2016-03-25T00:10:39 < kakimir> true aviation is man and machine 2016-03-25T00:11:02 < kakimir> not some flying safetycage 2016-03-25T00:13:41 < kakimir> pumpers... static made my function visible to main? 2016-03-25T00:13:45 < kakimir> why? 2016-03-25T00:17:52 < kakimir> I have some strict modes set to it 2016-03-25T00:23:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-25T00:23:38 < ohsix> visible? 2016-03-25T00:23:54 < ohsix> are they in the same complation unit 2016-03-25T00:23:59 < Laurenceb_> http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a273824.pdf 2016-03-25T00:24:06 < Laurenceb_> wow, who needs emdrive 2016-03-25T00:24:14 < Laurenceb_> this is actually sane 2016-03-25T00:28:19 < kakimir> I have debug session going on remotelly 2016-03-25T00:28:24 < kakimir> this is very nice 2016-03-25T00:28:31 < kakimir> it was almost painlaess 2016-03-25T00:29:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:ad5f:3783:a7a5:907e] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-25T00:36:16 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:ad5f:3783:a7a5:907e] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T00:42:53 < kakimir> how easy it is to have multidebug session 2016-03-25T00:42:55 < kakimir> ? 2016-03-25T00:43:24 < kakimir> when your device has more than one seperate parts that need to function together 2016-03-25T00:45:34 < kakimir> with different codes ofcourse 2016-03-25T00:47:56 < ohsix> easy 2016-03-25T00:48:12 < ohsix> your debug probe will allow multiple connections 2016-03-25T00:49:51 < kakimir> how 2016-03-25T00:50:14 < kakimir> note: I use SWD 2016-03-25T00:50:16 < kakimir> always 2016-03-25T00:50:27 < ohsix> the debug probe is openocd 2016-03-25T00:50:46 < ohsix> the device is xlink whatever via swd 2016-03-25T00:51:48 < ohsix> i dunno if there are any of them going to be in the example files but that would be the place to look 2016-03-25T00:51:55 < kakimir> don't I just open servers for different ports and with some discrimination to interface to use? 2016-03-25T00:52:08 < ohsix> probably can't do it with swd unless you had multiple devices 2016-03-25T00:52:13 < ohsix> yea basically 2016-03-25T00:52:29 < kakimir> then have like... 2 lpcpressos open with 2 debug profiles 2016-03-25T00:52:45 < ohsix> but with jtag/similar openocd can kown about the whole chain and all the clocks so you can stop the cpus and step them and stuff as cooperating things 2016-03-25T00:53:01 < kakimir> :o 2016-03-25T00:53:09 < kakimir> that sounds kewl 2016-03-25T00:53:35 < kakimir> I wonder how accurate that is without physically doing it with one interface 2016-03-25T00:53:41 < ohsix> it's a bit abstract to talk about, an actual thing will certainly work in a weird way 2016-03-25T00:54:35 < kakimir> I have like communications there 2016-03-25T00:54:39 < kakimir> going on 2016-03-25T00:56:50 < kakimir> ideally I would have a third device emulating the application side of electronics there too 2016-03-25T00:57:01 < kakimir> which also halts in sync 2016-03-25T00:57:25 < kakimir> or emulation running on another board 2016-03-25T00:57:28 < ohsix> o ya omap stuff has multiple things in them 2016-03-25T00:57:53 < ohsix> look at the config files for one of those, they'll be able to work with the cpu and the dsps 2016-03-25T00:58:04 < ohsix> and there are io processors on some of them that it might do as well 2016-03-25T00:58:46 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-25T00:58:56 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-25T00:59:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T01:01:09 < Thorn> does anyone have any experience with the IT6720 PSU? http://www.itechate.com/en/product/conter46.htm http://www.itechate.com/Upload/File/20150806101352.pdf 2016-03-25T01:03:50 < Thorn> but only 3.2A @5V 2016-03-25T01:03:59 < Thorn> @30V 2016-03-25T01:04:14 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.47] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-25T01:04:43 < Thorn> someone on eevblog said they like it better than thah korad/uniontest/tenma/velleman 2016-03-25T01:08:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T01:10:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T01:14:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T01:16:21 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T01:17:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-25T01:18:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T01:20:31 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39772.msg1507715#msg1507715 2016-03-25T01:23:42 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T01:38:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:ad5f:3783:a7a5:907e] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-25T01:41:46 < Laurenceb_> I'm mega pissed now 2016-03-25T01:42:00 < Laurenceb_> can't find a decent selection on usb dongle enclosures anywhere 2016-03-25T01:43:04 < ohsix> wat do you need to put in it 2016-03-25T01:43:22 < ohsix> if you make the pcb that fits on the connector you can put them in rtv or something for prototypes 2016-03-25T01:43:26 < ohsix> or epoxy 2016-03-25T01:43:48 < Laurenceb_> hmm maybe 2016-03-25T01:44:01 < Laurenceb_> need it for steval sp1ml dongle board 2016-03-25T01:47:01 < ohsix> looks like a pretty common form factor 2016-03-25T01:47:15 < ohsix> they might mention a supplier and case in some of the datasheets or something 2016-03-25T01:53:59 < kakimir> https://devhumor.com/content/uploads//images/February2016/1454387174485.png 2016-03-25T01:55:53 < ohsix> i don't get it 2016-03-25T01:57:08 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: or just heat shrink 2016-03-25T01:57:26 < ohsix> i have a bunch of probes and serial things with heat shrink on them and they're not bad 2016-03-25T01:58:00 < Laurenceb_> think I found something 2016-03-25T01:58:01 < Laurenceb_> http://www.soselectronic.com/a_info/resource/i/newage/201005_r5_1.pdf 2016-03-25T01:58:06 < Laurenceb_> looks like a perfect fit 2016-03-25T01:58:16 < ohsix> http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1615278383_1/DIY-ST-LINK-V2-stlink-Emulater-Downloader-For-STM8-STM32-Practical-and-Easy-to-carry-Free.jpg this kind of crap 2016-03-25T01:59:09 < ohsix> that looks a lot like the st pcb wrt width too 2016-03-25T01:59:27 < ohsix> is it .7m wide 2016-03-25T01:59:31 < ohsix> mil? 2016-03-25T01:59:44 < ohsix> oh inch duh 2016-03-25T02:00:06 < Laurenceb_> nah its 20.6mm ide 2016-03-25T02:00:13 < Laurenceb_> thats half the issue, extra wide dongle 2016-03-25T02:00:36 < Laurenceb_> I want it to be pro - this is something I'm selling 2016-03-25T02:01:08 < ohsix> you're gonna sell an sd dev kit that isn't certified for use to people? 2016-03-25T02:01:15 < ohsix> sd/st 2016-03-25T02:02:07 < Laurenceb_> shhhhh 2016-03-25T02:02:12 < Laurenceb_> lol yes 2016-03-25T02:06:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T02:08:30 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-25T02:08:32 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T02:11:15 < ohsix> making a pcb and basically doing the same thing is easy enough, then it can fit in anything 2016-03-25T02:15:30 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/vKPWSbJ 2016-03-25T02:16:20 < ohsix> . 2016-03-25T02:16:40 < jadew> why is that image so small? 2016-03-25T02:18:43 < ohsix> and just posted 2016-03-25T02:18:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T02:19:01 < ohsix> did you post it, you should be embarassed or something 2016-03-25T02:19:07 < kakimir> why are Laurenceb links so interesting today 2016-03-25T02:19:53 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: I think I have a lead on that, let me ask a friend 2016-03-25T02:20:28 < ohsix> haw someone posted my horse gif to facebook 2016-03-25T02:23:24 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: hm he got a bunch of these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Risym-USB-male-connector-with-a-three-piece-plastic-shell-USB-plug-type-A-USB-connector/1526455799.html 2016-03-25T02:23:29 < aandrew> not quite what you were after 2016-03-25T02:23:59 < Laurenceb_> heh interesting 2016-03-25T02:24:23 < Laurenceb_> I think the thing I linked would work.. confusing design tho 2016-03-25T02:24:36 < Laurenceb_> time to model with blu-tac :P 2016-03-25T02:24:41 < Laurenceb_> who needs CAD 2016-03-25T02:25:04 < kakimir> I can not find scripts in my fresh build of openocd 2016-03-25T02:26:41 < kakimir> I don't remember how this goes but it's like.. not there 2016-03-25T02:29:15 < ohsix> i kind of wish the scripts were a seperate thing, having to wait for an openocd release for tap file things that work unmodified is buns 2016-03-25T02:31:21 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-25T02:32:53 < kakimir> it's not how it goes 2016-03-25T02:33:27 < kakimir> those scripts are just setup of parameters for internal functions 2016-03-25T02:34:04 < kakimir> I'm glad as long as it can handle everything I throw at it 2016-03-25T02:34:11 < kakimir> like lpc anything 2016-03-25T02:34:18 < kakimir> stm32 anything 2016-03-25T02:42:12 < kakimir> is there some lunix tool to show directory structure in ascii? 2016-03-25T02:42:20 < kakimir> like tree acsii 2016-03-25T02:44:13 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-25T02:44:20 < kakimir> "tree" 2016-03-25T02:44:57 < kakimir> wanted to see it in my home dir 2016-03-25T02:45:02 < Laurenceb_> https://8ch.net/tech/src/1458830097354.jpg 2016-03-25T02:46:16 < englishman> stm32 hal requires word-aligned arrays for basic xfer functions, sigh 2016-03-25T02:54:18 -!- mtbg [mtbg@shell.k4be.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T02:54:21 < mtbg> hi 2016-03-25T03:31:51 < Fleck> any ideas why RTC->PRLL gets reset after reset? :D vbat is ok... 2016-03-25T03:32:19 < Fleck> on F103... 2016-03-25T03:35:27 < Fleck> in the same time - BKP->RTCCR keeps value after reset 2016-03-25T03:44:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-25T03:45:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T03:53:36 -!- mtbg [mtbg@shell.k4be.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-25T04:07:13 -!- nikomo [~quassel@nikomo.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-25T04:07:28 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T04:18:29 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orkqlnsupcrmbbgm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-25T04:42:49 < ohsix> what kind of reset, fault reset? it says what's preserved across different types of resets, but i don't know off hand 2016-03-25T04:43:31 < Fleck> power reset (vbat stays connected...) 2016-03-25T04:47:18 < ohsix> jadew: finally got to see if https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2675785 worked ... it appears that it does 2016-03-25T04:48:43 < ohsix> it's slower than the best speed before, but it is a high average 2016-03-25T04:52:24 < Fleck> ohsix: anyway, forgetting/reseting PRLL value doesn't make sense imo :D 2016-03-25T04:54:01 < ohsix> i didn't read much about the clock tree stuff and what parts of that gets kept over reset, sorry 2016-03-25T04:58:18 < Fleck> All system registers are asynchronously reset by a System Reset or Power Reset, except for RTC_PRL, RTC_ALR, RTC_CNT, and RTC_DIV. 2016-03-25T04:59:39 < Fleck> RTC_CNT keeps it's value, even more, keeps counting, but not RTC_PRL 2016-03-25T05:01:02 < Fleck> will try different board :D 2016-03-25T05:03:36 < dongs> http://puu.sh/nSxD6/33d0ef0546.png 2016-03-25T05:04:02 < Fleck> nope, same, so must be code somewhere :/ 2016-03-25T05:19:40 < jadew> ohsix, good to know 2016-03-25T05:20:29 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-25T05:22:19 < PeterM> https://u.pomf.is/bkskuw.webm 2016-03-25T05:24:54 < jadew> what's going on? 2016-03-25T05:25:01 < jadew> I don't get it 2016-03-25T05:25:25 < jadew> why are you guys posting this stuff? 2016-03-25T05:29:29 < ohsix> ethics i think 2016-03-25T05:30:27 < ohsix> oh 2016-03-25T05:30:36 < ohsix> this was microsofts bot that turned into nazi loving pedophile 2016-03-25T05:30:53 < ohsix> jadew: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/microsoft-terminates-its-tay-ai-chatbot-after-she-turns-into-a-nazi/ 2016-03-25T05:31:24 < ohsix> actually if you were a credulous teenager you'd actually, probably turn out the same 2016-03-25T05:31:51 < jadew> lol 2016-03-25T05:31:53 < jadew> that' 2016-03-25T05:31:59 < jadew> that's freaking awesome 2016-03-25T05:32:20 < dongs> haha, steaming 10 2016-03-25T05:32:22 < jadew> I guess now we know that the rise of the machine is an actual posibility 2016-03-25T05:33:11 < ohsix> the only thing this bot was hooked up to was microsofts reputation and twitter 2016-03-25T05:33:24 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T05:33:48 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T05:34:09 < ohsix> dongs: you officially autismed the chatbot more than me 2016-03-25T05:34:16 < ohsix> someone mentioned it this morning and i didn't care :[ 2016-03-25T05:35:19 < dongs> congratulations, now find an oven 2016-03-25T05:36:30 < ohsix> who are you talking to 2016-03-25T05:37:06 < dongs> must be r2com 2016-03-25T05:37:36 < dongs> sick of blogging, thinking of quitting 2016-03-25T05:37:53 < dongs> blogging 2016-03-25T05:38:06 < dongs> no the paid per blog blogging 2016-03-25T05:38:30 < ohsix> still buttnest? 2016-03-25T05:38:33 < dongs> it'll be taken over by ohsix 2016-03-25T05:39:17 < jadew> lmfao, are those tweets for real? 2016-03-25T05:39:19 < jadew> hahah 2016-03-25T05:39:29 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-25T05:39:50 < ohsix> twitter is going to try its' noisiest and hardest to make it relevant to your life 2016-03-25T05:40:38 < jadew> omg... they're hilareous 2016-03-25T05:40:54 < jadew> "we travel to nursing homes and explore Grandpas in their natural habitat" hahaha 2016-03-25T05:41:06 < jadew> why did they shut it down? 2016-03-25T05:41:09 < jadew> this is gold 2016-03-25T05:42:19 < ohsix> hitler of course 2016-03-25T05:42:39 < jadew> ah, right 2016-03-25T05:42:47 < jadew> still, funny as hell 2016-03-25T05:42:50 < ohsix> the telegraph: Microsoft deletes 'teen girl' AI after it became a Hitler-loving sex robot within 24 hours 2016-03-25T05:43:11 < ohsix> oh god hahaha the times of israel wrote about it 2016-03-25T05:43:20 < dongs> Tay has been built by mining relevant public data and by using AI and editorial developed by a staff including improvisational comedians. Public data that’s been anonymized is Tay’s primary data source. That data has been modeled, cleaned and filtered by the team developing Tay. 2016-03-25T05:43:25 < dongs> apparently not cleaned enough 2016-03-25T05:43:53 < ohsix> :< 2016-03-25T05:43:55 < ohsix> http://www.timesofisrael.com/microsoft-drops-chatbot-made-into-hitler-loving-monster-on-twitter/ 2016-03-25T05:43:58 < jadew> they probably hoped it would learn something else 2016-03-25T05:44:03 < ohsix> they call it malevolent as if the bot had intent 2016-03-25T05:44:12 < ohsix> people don't understand computers 2016-03-25T05:44:39 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-25T05:44:43 < ohsix> only thing tay didn't do was start crying and have parents that told her who hitler was 2016-03-25T05:44:54 < ohsix> any regular teen would have been ran off from the attention 2016-03-25T05:45:14 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-25T05:45:25 < jadew> the bachelorette joke is quite good 2016-03-25T05:45:34 < dongs> hatred for “n*****s” and “k***s.” 2016-03-25T05:45:35 < ohsix> this doesn't bode well for bing olol 2016-03-25T05:45:35 < dongs> kikes? 2016-03-25T05:45:40 < ohsix> dongs: kites 2016-03-25T05:45:50 < ohsix> the times of israel has some sort of hang ups about them 2016-03-25T05:45:50 < dongs> what's with kite hate. 2016-03-25T05:45:52 < ohsix> i don't get it 2016-03-25T05:46:35 < ohsix> anyways yea, what google does for search approximates this kind of 'learning' model, it is funny how badly they fucked it up and let in pure garbage 2016-03-25T05:47:48 < dongs> mouser sent me "tools for open source hardware" email 2016-03-25T05:48:02 < dongs> Intel Arduino 101 Development board 2016-03-25T05:48:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T05:48:21 < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/new/Intel/arduino101/ 2016-03-25T05:48:36 < jadew> this shit is getting out of hands 2016-03-25T05:49:23 < dongs> what hte hell is that processor on that thing 2016-03-25T05:49:27 < dongs> curie "module"? 2016-03-25T05:49:34 < dongs> it looks like a bga/some kinda pop thing 2016-03-25T05:49:40 < dongs> doesnt look liek a module to me 2016-03-25T05:50:14 < jadew> http://ro.mouser.com/new/Intel/intel-quark-se-soc/ 2016-03-25T05:51:31 < dongs> 32MHz clock, 32-bit address bus 2016-03-25T05:51:34 < dongs> is that a typo 2016-03-25T05:52:07 < dongs> 6.4x6.33x0.52mm 2016-03-25T05:52:08 < dongs> 144 pin WLCSP 2016-03-25T05:52:09 < dongs> lol. 2016-03-25T05:52:12 < dongs> totally for hobbyists 2016-03-25T05:52:33 < jadew> yeah, it's stupid 2016-03-25T05:52:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-25T05:53:09 < dongs> but anyway, thats not quark 2016-03-25T05:53:16 < dongs> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wearables/wearable-soc.html 2016-03-25T05:53:16 < ReadError> http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-ep-xeon-e5-2600-v4-march-launch/ 2016-03-25T05:53:17 < dongs> i guess its this shit 2016-03-25T05:53:32 < dongs> ReadError: no more desktop chipsets for v4 xeons 2016-03-25T05:53:38 < dongs> so that shit's dead to me 2016-03-25T05:53:44 < dongs> you need ecc ram + C210 or wahtever server chipsets 2016-03-25T05:53:54 < ReadError> 55MB of L3 dayum 2016-03-25T05:54:15 < ReadError> one is clocked at 5.1GHz lol 2016-03-25T05:54:28 < dongs> thats jsut a typo 2016-03-25T05:54:30 < dongs> 1.5->5.1 2016-03-25T05:54:52 < dongs> the table is in speed sort order. 2016-03-25T05:54:52 < ReadError> look at the watts 2016-03-25T05:54:59 < ReadError> its 2x 2016-03-25T05:55:19 < ReadError> http://wccftech.com/intel-rumored-launch-51-ghz-xeon-e52602-v4-processor-broadwellep-lineup-features-165w-tdp/ 2016-03-25T05:55:40 < dongs> 5.1ghz isnt gonna help you get any better at innovating 2016-03-25T05:56:00 < ReadError> yea but imagine what it can do to my FAP game 2016-03-25T05:57:25 < dongs> jadew: https://communities.intel.com/thread/88620?start=0&tstart=0 2016-03-25T05:57:25 < dongs> haha. 2016-03-25T05:58:05 < dongs> ok so curie is some shit that sticks quark + gyro/acc + some other shit on a littel carrier board, but there's no datasheet/info whatsoever and its been like 5 months since people asked. looks dead to me. 2016-03-25T05:58:40 < dongs> heh it was announced january last year 2016-03-25T05:59:08 < jadew> well, if you got the e-mail today, maybe they plan to finally release it properly 2016-03-25T05:59:33 < dongs> well its for sale for $30 on mouser 2016-03-25T06:00:00 < dongs> "datasheet" from mouser just links to intel's wank page about it 2016-03-25T06:00:02 < dongs> with zero technical info 2016-03-25T06:00:05 < dongs> https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/arduino-101.html 2016-03-25T06:02:13 < dongs> Socket TypeArduino shieldSilicon22 nmMax TDP300 W 2016-03-25T06:02:16 < dongs> ahaahha 2016-03-25T06:02:17 < dongs> 300W 2016-03-25T06:04:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T06:05:31 < jadew> where did you get that spec from? 2016-03-25T06:05:37 < dongs> that page 2016-03-25T06:05:45 < dongs> click technical specs on taht page 2016-03-25T06:05:49 < dongs> it scrolls down 2016-03-25T06:05:51 < dongs> then click "more specs' 2016-03-25T06:05:57 < ohsix> dongs: get one and do a destroy video 2016-03-25T06:06:06 < ohsix> dongs: you could be the first person to have a video about it on youtube 2016-03-25T06:06:36 < jadew> dongs, I can't find a technical specs link 2016-03-25T06:06:59 < ohsix> what kind of specs are you looking for 2016-03-25T06:07:10 < jadew> the TDP that dongs mentioned 2016-03-25T06:07:10 < ohsix> cuz i was reading them a while ago, register definitions and stuff 2016-03-25T06:07:15 < ohsix> o 2016-03-25T06:07:28 < dongs> jadew: http://www.intel.com/buy/us/en/product/emergingtechnologies/intel-arduino-101-497161 click 'wehre to buy' scroll down to 'technical specifications' click it shows some boring shit click "show more technical specfications" it shows 300W TDP 2016-03-25T06:07:54 < jadew> ha! 2016-03-25T06:08:17 < jadew> it's probably wrong 2016-03-25T06:08:25 < jadew> at that size I doubt it can dissipate that much 2016-03-25T06:08:34 < dongs> duhr. 2016-03-25T06:08:38 < ohsix> intel needs to do something to stay relevant in these spaces, everyone is going to do arm and ignore them :< 2016-03-25T06:09:02 < ohsix> huh built in neural classification engine 2016-03-25T06:09:14 < ohsix> that can do a LOT, if it doesn't suck at least 2016-03-25T06:09:26 < jadew> yeah, I noticed that too 2016-03-25T06:09:36 < jadew> but you can't trust the specs 2016-03-25T06:10:24 < ohsix> seems to tick all the boxes for microcontroller / embedded junk tho 2016-03-25T06:10:49 < ohsix> 19 channel adc mux and 19 comparators 2016-03-25T06:11:16 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-25T06:11:22 < ohsix> dsp core that does the arc instruction set 2016-03-25T06:11:28 < ohsix> that might be the first time they ever document that 2016-03-25T06:11:37 < ohsix> it's used in their lights out management stuff in the chipsets 2016-03-25T06:12:36 < dongs> they arnet gonna document it 2016-03-25T06:12:43 < dongs> if they didnt 5 months ago, no reason for htrem to start now 2016-03-25T06:13:35 < ohsix> do you even lift bro 2016-03-25T06:13:46 < ohsix> https://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-system-studio-microcontrollers 2016-03-25T06:14:58 < ohsix> says ipp supports the dsp, i think you can get the code to that 2016-03-25T06:17:49 < ohsix> Access Denied: Privileged Access Required 2016-03-25T06:17:58 < ohsix> when you try to get the datasheet 2016-03-25T06:18:02 < ohsix> need to sign an nda 2016-03-25T06:18:33 < ohsix> nobody is going to do that as an alternative to someone with cheaper parts and more open ecosystem 2016-03-25T06:18:41 < ohsix> kind of a huge red flag, even 2016-03-25T06:19:53 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-25T06:20:01 < ohsix> they have isa bugs, nop with lock prefix = explode 2016-03-25T06:26:22 < dongs> embedded x86 is a thing anyway 2016-03-25T06:26:33 < dongs> not from intel even 2016-03-25T06:26:40 < dongs> there's some ST parts for 80186 or somethi ni nthem 2016-03-25T06:26:42 < dongs> at around 80mhz 2016-03-25T06:26:55 < PeterM> many x86 embedded processors 2016-03-25T06:27:00 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-25T06:27:03 < aandrew> yeah but it's a dying breed 2016-03-25T06:27:05 < ohsix> tern and stuff sells a ton of them 2016-03-25T06:27:16 < ohsix> you can still buy the i386 in tfp from intel and shit too 2016-03-25T06:27:32 < aandrew> they sell in volume still because of ancient control systems that use the old 80186/188 type systems or embedded 386s 2016-03-25T06:27:39 < aandrew> no new system uses embedded intel anything 2016-03-25T06:27:40 < dongs> Turbo186 is in the ST stuff 2016-03-25T06:27:42 < dongs> VAutomation 2016-03-25T06:28:01 < dongs> aandrew: i mean on special purpose chips that do other stuff. 2016-03-25T06:28:02 < aandrew> even com express who's intel's biggest embedded fanboi have arm boards 2016-03-25T06:28:17 < ohsix> there is new versions of some hp test equipment that are just revs on older versions that still use them 2016-03-25T06:28:18 < dongs> and MCU is there to do shit 8051 can do 2016-03-25T06:28:20 < aandrew> 20 years ago we used the 80196 (not x86 at all, but decent back then for embedded motor control) 2016-03-25T06:28:28 < aandrew> oh yeah 8051 will never die 2016-03-25T06:28:48 < aandrew> there's a fucking 8051 core in every USB hub and controller on the planet, and little shitty 8051s are buried in everything 2016-03-25T06:28:57 < dongs> The Turbo186 continues to see use today by LANtronix in their DSTni-EX Single chip Device Networking procts 2016-03-25T06:28:58 < aandrew> people keep coming out with faster 8051 clones too 2016-03-25T06:29:01 < dongs> haha 2016-03-25T06:29:03 < dongs> lantronix ~ 2016-03-25T06:29:10 < ohsix> 200dmips 2016-03-25T06:29:11 < PeterM> lol 2016-03-25T06:30:09 < ohsix> that might explain why they're 50$/port or something really stupid 2016-03-25T06:30:32 < dongs> zano port 2016-03-25T06:31:27 < ohsix> did anyone follow upw ith lantronix after they failed 2016-03-25T06:31:51 < ohsix> if they were super cynical they might have pulled off a genius move 2016-03-25T06:31:54 < dongs> http://www.lantronix.com/blog/zano-drone-xpico-wi-fi-taking-selfies-new-height/ no 2016-03-25T06:32:00 < ohsix> sell all those parts to something that will fail 2016-03-25T06:32:09 < ohsix> get money early cuz they're a bunch of chucklefucks 2016-03-25T06:34:51 < dongs> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/all-about/pembroke 2016-03-25T06:34:57 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.66] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T06:35:13 < dongs> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/experienced-climber-fell-death-pembrokeshire-10847060 is that t he zano cliff 2016-03-25T06:35:45 < Laurenceb_> http://appliedmemeticsllc.com/ 2016-03-25T06:35:54 < Laurenceb_> this is too mental to be true 2016-03-25T06:36:14 < Laurenceb_> memetics 2016-03-25T06:36:52 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/GchGKJC 2016-03-25T06:43:19 < ohsix> dianetics? 2016-03-25T06:45:45 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FjBdL8w.gif someone was in a hurry attn upgrdman 2016-03-25T06:46:32 < ohsix> the turned into the wall wat 2016-03-25T06:48:42 < ohsix> the quark d2000/se might not even exist 2016-03-25T06:48:58 < ohsix> d1000 is the one with a datasheet and they were all sent to the press mill at the same time 2016-03-25T06:49:12 < ohsix> could be trolling for interest, all the distributors are all 'lol coming soon' 2016-03-25T06:50:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T06:52:47 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-25T07:00:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-25T07:20:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-25T07:26:47 < ohsix> k sec 2016-03-25T07:29:14 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T07:32:18 < upgrdman> dongs, nice 2016-03-25T07:33:12 < upgrdman> also FUCKING NXP! WHY, FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY, does the can rx fifo only have a length of TWO. you want to debug some shit? hahaha fuck you. 2016-03-25T07:33:36 < ohsix> that's a little racy pal, family channel 2016-03-25T07:33:52 < dongs> upgrdman: ownt 2016-03-25T07:36:30 < aandrew> lol 2016-03-25T07:36:39 < aandrew> sw fifo baby 2016-03-25T07:36:41 < aandrew> love it 2016-03-25T07:36:50 < aandrew> it's one of hte first things I ever instantiate on a design 2016-03-25T07:37:25 < aandrew> I gotta put CDC uart on this design and reclaim that uart though 2016-03-25T07:38:04 < aandrew> hm, can stm32 have multiple hardware slave selects on SPI or do i have to do it the stupid way 2016-03-25T07:41:13 < aandrew> looks like it only understands the concept of a (singular) SS# pin 2016-03-25T07:41:28 < aandrew> I guess I can dick around with alt function mapping before I do a transfer to bounce between two SS# though 2016-03-25T07:58:15 < dongs> http://www.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles/1603/25/news022.html heh i got blogged about again 2016-03-25T07:58:22 < dongs> that explains why I woke up to a shitload of orders of this junk 2016-03-25T08:01:40 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-25T08:01:47 < ohsix> why don't you send press samples to places like that 2016-03-25T08:01:57 < ohsix> you gotta wait for them to buy one, what are you some sort of nooooooooooooooooooooob 2016-03-25T08:02:11 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXWcMiG9ROQ 2016-03-25T08:02:12 < ohsix> this 2016-03-25T08:02:43 < ohsix> why don't you try being cool like him 2016-03-25T08:04:24 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host152-120-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T08:06:15 < dongs> found his order from like february 2016-03-25T08:06:24 < dongs> ohsix: nobody asks me for shit 2016-03-25T08:06:51 < ohsix> rite, they wouldn't 2016-03-25T08:07:09 < ohsix> but those guys have blagged twice, why not just send them something when you have a new thing 2016-03-25T08:07:17 < ohsix> and similar outlets that would write about it 2016-03-25T08:09:15 < dongs> panels became cheap 2016-03-25T08:09:22 < dongs> i should drop my panel kit price probably 2016-03-25T08:10:58 < dongs> %TF.GenerationSoftware,KiCad,Pcbnew,4.0.2-stable*% 2016-03-25T08:10:59 < dongs> fuckkk 2016-03-25T08:11:07 < dongs> some asshole sent this data, cant even open that gerber 2016-03-25T08:11:08 < dongs> in pro soft 2016-03-25T08:12:53 < ohsix> huh 2016-03-25T08:12:56 < ohsix> does gakken still exist 2016-03-25T08:12:59 < ohsix> you should send them one 2016-03-25T08:13:25 < ohsix> hm nm i forgot it was mostly books plus kits 2016-03-25T08:13:40 < dongs> you must be thining CQpublishing or something 2016-03-25T08:13:47 < ohsix> gakken is kewl :< 2016-03-25T08:13:49 < dongs> another jappu thing that does ham/electronic trash. 2016-03-25T08:13:54 < ohsix> maybe 2016-03-25T08:13:58 < ohsix> i haven't seen anything from them 2016-03-25T08:14:10 < ohsix> if they have a littel block or a few pages on new stuff, def 2016-03-25T08:14:33 < ohsix> i dunno if there are any cultural reasons not to do that in japan tho, might not be a good idea 2016-03-25T08:14:56 < ohsix> they have magazines marketed to teenaged boys right? and ones that are slightly older? 2016-03-25T08:15:02 < ohsix> oh right japan, it could just be porn 2016-03-25T08:15:08 < ohsix> but if it was gadgets ololol 2016-03-25T08:15:49 < ohsix> duno man, i think you could find some places to sell things to get loads of sales 2016-03-25T08:15:52 < ohsix> omfg gary shandling died 2016-03-25T08:17:17 < ohsix> sounds like some sort of accident at his house 2016-03-25T08:17:25 < ohsix> he was still an able bodied and happy guy 2016-03-25T08:17:34 < dongs> dude, like 8 hours ago 2016-03-25T08:17:38 < dongs> you're way behind the news. 2016-03-25T08:17:42 < ohsix> yea i haven't read my rss shit 2016-03-25T08:17:51 < ohsix> i pay for not being distracted all day (usually) 2016-03-25T08:18:01 < ohsix> but i benefit from doing it all in like 40 minutes max :< 2016-03-25T08:19:33 < aandrew> balls 2016-03-25T08:19:43 < aandrew> the stm32 uarts don't even have the abiliyt to use rts or cts as a rs485 driver enable 2016-03-25T08:23:33 < dongs> any kikecad users? 2016-03-25T08:23:40 < aandrew> gotta do it in software, awesome. 2016-03-25T08:23:47 < aandrew> I guess I can drive it off a timer pin 2016-03-25T08:23:49 < dongs> how the fuck can it output invalid gerber 2016-03-25T08:23:50 < ohsix> i could be convinced to start it and click on things if that was good enough 2016-03-25T08:23:53 < aandrew> dongs: you? kicad?! 2016-03-25T08:23:54 < ohsix> dongs ^ 2016-03-25T08:24:05 < ohsix> no idea 2016-03-25T08:25:36 < PaulFertser> dongs: does you pro software say what exactly is invalid about that gerber? gerber is a very simple format, right? 2016-03-25T08:26:17 < PaulFertser> It should just tell you what line the error is on, right? 2016-03-25T08:26:44 < PaulFertser> Or is too pro and can't expect any problems with gerbers? 2016-03-25T08:26:46 < dongs> PaulFertser: it just fails to get the format 2016-03-25T08:26:54 < dongs> im ognna see, it might be lal the d umg headers kikad adds 2016-03-25T08:26:57 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-25T08:28:04 < dongs> ya it was it 2016-03-25T08:28:16 < dongs> %TF.GenerationSoftware,KiCad,Pcbnew,4.0.2-stable*% 2016-03-25T08:28:16 < dongs> %TF.CreationDate,2016-03-25T14:31:00+09:00*% 2016-03-25T08:28:19 < dongs> this trash confuses prosoft 2016-03-25T08:28:36 < dongs> cam350 2016-03-25T08:29:31 < dongs> preparing gerbers for production 2016-03-25T08:29:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-25T08:29:48 < aandrew> fuck a duck 2016-03-25T08:30:24 < aandrew> UART4_TX has to be on wakeup or SDIO_D2. can't move SDIO_D2 and want wakeup so now I guess I have to mux that in software 2016-03-25T08:30:29 < aandrew> FPGAs are so much better at this 2016-03-25T08:30:46 < PaulFertser> aandrew: so do you like psoc line? 2016-03-25T08:30:55 < aandrew> no 2016-03-25T08:30:56 < dongs> lol psoc. 2016-03-25T08:31:04 < dongs> aandrew: why did you plan that pinout and fucked it up 2016-03-25T08:31:14 < ohsix> with the qualification that i never used them and only played with the psoc1, they were neat 2016-03-25T08:31:16 < dongs> also, UART = fail, you should beusing USARTs if you want shit it work 2016-03-25T08:31:19 < aandrew> just enough programmable I/O to be tempting but then you want to really use it and it's just not enough 2016-03-25T08:31:22 < ohsix> there's arm ones now and a lot more options 2016-03-25T08:31:26 < dongs> UART is missing all those "control signals" you want to use 2016-03-25T08:31:28 < aandrew> not to mention the UDBs are all fucking 8-bit wide 2016-03-25T08:31:38 < aandrew> dongs: I'm using 4 UARTs 2016-03-25T08:31:44 < aandrew> combo USART/UART 2016-03-25T08:31:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: 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I do 2016-03-25T08:34:10 < dongs> pfft. 2016-03-25T08:34:17 < aandrew> anyway let me verify the pins and put the cube file up 2016-03-25T08:34:26 < aandrew> you can tell me where I fucked up if you have the time 2016-03-25T08:36:03 < dongs> damn LAN8720A is like 35c 2016-03-25T08:36:12 < dongs> now i know what eterhet phy ill be using 2016-03-25T08:36:35 < ohsix> for what 2016-03-25T08:36:51 < dongs> INTERNET OF DILDOS 2016-03-25T08:37:13 < ohsix> didn't you do that already 2016-03-25T08:37:59 < lorenzo> dongs: where so cheap? 2016-03-25T08:38:08 < dongs> chinagirl 2016-03-25T08:41:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T08:44:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T08:47:36 < dongs> oh nice 2016-03-25T08:47:39 < dongs> i didnt click page 2 on that jappu site 2016-03-25T08:47:43 < dongs> they even put one inside a picture frame 2016-03-25T08:47:48 < dongs> with the board and cable outside 2016-03-25T08:48:24 < ohsix> innovators 2016-03-25T08:48:31 < upgrdman> whats a good tool to sniff usb uarts in widnwos 2016-03-25T08:48:34 < upgrdman> windows* 2016-03-25T08:48:46 < upgrdman> i have wireshark but its usb sniffer is confusing as fuck 2016-03-25T08:48:48 < ohsix> what would you use in !windows, usbmon? 2016-03-25T08:48:56 < ohsix> ah yea it'd be the same thing 2016-03-25T08:49:04 < upgrdman> seems like to way to id what device is "1.21.1" or whatever gay id it is 2016-03-25T08:49:10 < ohsix> find out if wireshark can decode cdc-acm or whatever 2016-03-25T08:49:31 < ohsix> it looks like it can 2016-03-25T08:49:38 < upgrdman> i just cant even get wireshark to give me any clues about what a device is 2016-03-25T08:49:44 < ohsix> use the usbcom display filter 2016-03-25T08:49:49 < upgrdman> i have like 15 usb shits plugged into this pc 2016-03-25T08:49:51 < ohsix> o you want to know what device it is? 2016-03-25T08:50:03 < ohsix> you can go to the device manager and get pid/vid 2016-03-25T08:52:03 < upgrdman> where in dev man is the pid vid 2016-03-25T08:52:22 < dongs> properties/advanced tab 2016-03-25T08:52:23 < upgrdman> i have the device selected. properties just shows port2hub8 2016-03-25T08:52:25 < dongs> and scroll the list 2016-03-25T08:52:34 < upgrdman> there is no advanced tab 2016-03-25T08:52:56 < dongs> er 'details' tab 2016-03-25T08:53:01 < dongs> and scroll 'property' list 2016-03-25T08:53:05 < dongs> vid/pid is 2nd in it i think 2016-03-25T08:53:13 < dongs> device instance path 2016-03-25T08:53:45 < upgrdman> ok cool 2016-03-25T08:53:58 < upgrdman> how does that map to wiresharks "1.22.1" etc naming scheme 2016-03-25T08:54:14 < dongs> no fucking idea, stupid fucking opensores. 2016-03-25T09:04:17 < aandrew> nope 2016-03-25T09:04:39 < aandrew> remapped everything I could and still can't get uart4, nor can I use uart5 or usart6 2016-03-25T09:06:16 < aandrew> http://mixdown.ca/dump/breakout-stm32.ioc is the cube file if you're interested in taking a crack at it 2016-03-25T09:08:46 < dongs> fuk 2016-03-25T09:08:49 < dongs> my mxcube is too ld 2016-03-25T09:08:50 < dongs> old 2016-03-25T09:26:02 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T09:29:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-25T09:30:56 < PaulFertser> dongs: bus topology doesn't depend on os 2016-03-25T09:31:28 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: you switch windows device manager to "topology" view and then you'll see the controller, individual ports etc. 2016-03-25T09:31:33 < PaulFertser> hierarchy 2016-03-25T09:32:47 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-03-25T09:32:52 < upgrdman> is that how wireshark ids them 2016-03-25T09:35:03 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-03-25T09:35:20 < upgrdman> still see no link between hierarchy view and how wireshark ids them 2016-03-25T09:35:26 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: most probably, yes 2016-03-25T09:36:16 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T09:37:21 < dongs> PaulFertser: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 2016-03-25T09:37:40 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: hm, or not http://desowin.org/usbpcap/ 2016-03-25T09:38:05 < upgrdman> ya i found that a while ago 2016-03-25T09:38:05 < upgrdman> but 2016-03-25T09:38:19 < upgrdman> it doesnt seem to map cleanly to what wireshark shows either 2016-03-25T09:38:27 < upgrdman> like i see 1.21.2 in wireshark 2016-03-25T09:38:35 < upgrdman> but theres no 21 in my list on cmd.exe 2016-03-25T09:40:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.55] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T09:41:36 < PaulFertser> Heh 2016-03-25T09:42:09 < upgrdman> brb 2016-03-25T09:42:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-25T09:46:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T09:47:09 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-25T09:52:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-25T10:16:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T10:20:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T10:21:13 < upgrdman> wtf. some usb can adapter im using will like half-die when its plugged into my usb hub. it will still send can messages and ack messages, but it stops talking to the pc after a little while. 2016-03-25T10:21:29 < upgrdman> but plug it direct into my bro4, and it works perfect 2016-03-25T10:21:43 < upgrdman> and my usb hub is powered and usb3 2016-03-25T10:22:24 < upgrdman> how does usb manage to fail like that. like half-way and only when using a hub. 2016-03-25T10:24:09 < ohsix> slightly different timing constraints with hub in play 2016-03-25T10:24:10 < ohsix> shitsux 2016-03-25T10:25:34 < upgrdman> but like why does usb shit the bed and fail 2016-03-25T10:25:39 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@cable-188-2-23-161.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-25T10:25:46 < ohsix> the device probably does 2016-03-25T10:25:47 < upgrdman> why does shit keep working but badly 2016-03-25T10:26:06 < ohsix> the device will auto do acks and sends can happen at any time 2016-03-25T10:26:33 < upgrdman> no i mean i can send a can message to the usb can adapter, it and it put it on the can bus 2016-03-25T10:26:54 < ohsix> how are the endpoints set up 2016-03-25T10:26:54 < upgrdman> bus the pc never receives any feedback from the usb can adapter, after some random length of time 2016-03-25T10:27:07 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host152-120-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-25T10:27:07 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T10:27:17 < upgrdman> one endpoint is the pc with a usb can adapter 2016-03-25T10:27:26 < upgrdman> the other endpoint is a microcontroller + can transceiver 2016-03-25T10:28:15 < upgrdman> the two endpoints are connected with like 300mm of china's best rainbow wire 2016-03-25T10:29:19 < PaulFertser> Buggy firmware of the adapter itself probably. 2016-03-25T10:29:53 < upgrdman> ok buy why would not using a hub mask that buggy firmware 2016-03-25T10:30:08 * upgrdman looks at the usb can adapter's pcb 2016-03-25T10:30:23 < upgrdman> > pic18f 2016-03-25T10:30:33 < upgrdman> lolwut 2016-03-25T10:30:45 < ohsix> is it a car thing 2016-03-25T10:30:50 < upgrdman> no 2016-03-25T10:30:52 < ohsix> they all clone that one can bus adapter 2016-03-25T10:30:53 < ohsix> oic 2016-03-25T10:31:07 < upgrdman> no im using some open sauce adapter 2016-03-25T10:31:10 < upgrdman> from .de 2016-03-25T10:31:18 < ohsix> the elmsomethingosomething guy, it's not uncommon to sell pics as preprogrammed do-a-thing chpi 2016-03-25T10:31:41 < upgrdman> ya i have an elm32 obdii adapter 2016-03-25T10:31:47 < upgrdman> but this is a different thing 2016-03-25T10:36:49 < PaulFertser> elm327 2016-03-25T10:40:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-25T10:40:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T11:02:14 < ohsix> dongs: ReadError posted something old gooooooo 2016-03-25T11:06:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-25T11:07:26 < upgrdman> spent several hours fucking with a usb can adapter, only to realize the fix to my problem was to not plug it into a hub but go direct 2016-03-25T11:08:10 < ohsix> balls direct 2016-03-25T11:08:42 < ohsix> upgrdman: 2bad it is a pic you could probably investigate problems related to extra rtt orwatever otherwise 2016-03-25T11:09:16 < ohsix> *from the datasheet of something more notsoftware on a microcontroller 2016-03-25T11:09:18 < upgrdman> well im guessing the pic has usb ip in hardware 2016-03-25T11:09:30 < upgrdman> so not sure if it would be fixable 2016-03-25T11:11:58 < upgrdman> also anyone in here familiar with the lpc-link2? semihosted printf() is slow as fuck. feels like 9600 uart. is this something tweakable, or just take-it-or-leave-it? 2016-03-25T11:20:07 < jpa-> anything that makes the semihosting calls go to pc over usb will be very slow 2016-03-25T11:20:29 < jpa-> not sure if there are any adapters that would do semihosting on the debugging probe hardware; maybe bmp? 2016-03-25T11:20:45 < ohsix> it's not the usb part is it 2016-03-25T11:20:56 < jpa-> it's the usb latency 2016-03-25T11:20:57 < ohsix> might be remembering dumb stuff about ANGEL 2016-03-25T11:21:00 < ohsix> o 2016-03-25T11:21:16 < jpa-> especially if you use a printf or similar that makes semihosting call for each individual character 2016-03-25T11:22:35 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: it's tweakable 2016-03-25T11:22:37 < upgrdman> jpa-, but a usb uart is so much faster 2016-03-25T11:22:45 < PaulFertser> jpa-: no printf doesn't 2016-03-25T11:22:58 < jpa-> PaulFertser: atleast tinyprintf does 2016-03-25T11:23:00 < PaulFertser> semihosting call is made per \n by default 2016-03-25T11:23:02 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, cool. what should i google. 2016-03-25T11:23:03 < PaulFertser> In newlib 2016-03-25T11:23:13 < jpa-> *a* printf, yeah, newlib buffers by default i think (not sure about nano) 2016-03-25T11:23:38 < jpa-> upgrdman: usb uart has fifo, semihosting does not 2016-03-25T11:23:47 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: do setvbuf(stdout, NULL, _IOFBF, BUFSIZ); somewhere early in main(), then fflush(stdout) when you really need it. 2016-03-25T11:23:55 < PaulFertser> jpa-: newlib-nano too 2016-03-25T11:24:00 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, thx! 2016-03-25T11:24:50 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: I think lpc-link2 has jlink compatible firmware, probably that means that jlink swo will work too (swo is supported in openocd for jlink and stlink currently). 2016-03-25T11:25:11 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-25T11:25:49 < jpa-> https://answers.launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded/+question/246038 newlib nano might ignore setvbuf() though 2016-03-25T11:25:55 < jpa-> depending on config opts 2016-03-25T11:26:06 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: but if you use newlib and you do not need data to appear too often, you can buffer with setvbuf and flush as needed. 2016-03-25T11:26:20 < PaulFertser> jpa-: hm, at least the version I used from GAE buffered. 2016-03-25T11:26:39 < jpa-> yeah, ok 2016-03-25T11:26:48 < PaulFertser> Probably they changed it 2016-03-25T11:27:06 < jpa-> probably they give it config options to buffer 2016-03-25T11:27:27 < PaulFertser> It was honouring setvbuf on 4_7-2013q1-20130313 for me. 2016-03-25T11:27:28 < ohsix> i thought semihosting stuff all underlied a single char read/write; even if buffered somewhere it ends up shuffling through one at a time 2016-03-25T11:27:37 < PaulFertser> ohsix: nope 2016-03-25T11:27:41 < jpa-> ohsix: nope 2016-03-25T11:28:18 < ohsix> might be still thinking ANGEL on earlier arm poop 2016-03-25T11:28:22 < PaulFertser> ohsix: it halts on breakpoint, the debugger sees the code, mem address and count, reads out all the bytes in one go (that's fast enough), resumes. Halting / resuming is what kinda makes it slow. 2016-03-25T11:28:58 < PaulFertser> (actually it also sees a file descriptor too, semihosting allows you to manipulate any host file with your firmware running on target board) 2016-03-25T11:29:39 < ohsix> right 2016-03-25T11:29:43 < ohsix> refreshing my knowledge 2016-03-25T11:30:03 < ohsix> i looked at using it for dealing with samples on host while jerking around with something 2016-03-25T11:33:34 < ohsix> https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=blob;f=libgloss/arm/swi.h;h=b7fa243f86d32666a596da30aa671e1446cbebf1;hb=HEAD#l47 2016-03-25T11:33:39 < ohsix> this was the poop i was thinking of 2016-03-25T11:33:53 < ohsix> Write is smarter huh? 2016-03-25T11:38:32 < PaulFertser> ohsix: WriteC can write multiple bytes 2016-03-25T11:39:08 < PaulFertser> Or Write, I do not remember 2016-03-25T11:39:12 < ohsix> weird 2016-03-25T11:39:14 < ohsix> Write0 does 2016-03-25T11:39:21 < ohsix> WriteC does one 2016-03-25T11:39:34 < ohsix> i wonder how i missed seeing Write0 when i was looking at this stuff 2016-03-25T11:39:43 < ohsix> Write0 implies C strings etc etc 2016-03-25T11:39:50 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-25T11:39:51 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-25T11:41:23 < ohsix> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0040d/Bcedijji.html 2016-03-25T11:42:44 < ohsix> arm sent me a dvd with all of their web stuff on it in pdfs, sure would like to get a new one 2016-03-25T11:42:47 < ohsix> +many years ago 2016-03-25T11:42:50 < upgrdman> ohsix, lol 2016-03-25T11:44:25 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T11:46:48 < ohsix> ah oooh i think i'm remembering; there was more than one debug channel 2016-03-25T11:47:02 < ohsix> you could have a bunch, the first 2 were text and would be shown in a debugger 2016-03-25T11:47:07 < ohsix> but the rest could be used for trace 2016-03-25T11:48:57 < ohsix> huhu was watching a presentation the other day where the guy sent $ip samples and other performance stuff over the midi port he had, kind of a neat trick 2016-03-25T11:51:58 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: akaWolf, XTL, nikomo 2016-03-25T11:53:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: akaWolf 2016-03-25T11:53:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: XTL 2016-03-25T11:54:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-25T11:56:08 -!- XTL_ [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T11:56:45 < dongs> only neat if youre into assburgering 2016-03-25T12:05:03 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: XTL 2016-03-25T12:08:36 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T12:08:50 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-25T12:08:50 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T12:11:05 -!- nikomo 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win-d 2016-03-25T13:29:41 < dongs> which is win-e 2016-03-25T13:29:54 < dongs> xplorer. 2016-03-25T13:30:06 < dongs> also win-d loses all the z-order info 2016-03-25T13:30:14 < dongs> basically my entire organized desktop becomes fucked 2016-03-25T13:45:51 < dongs> only fags take showers 2016-03-25T13:45:58 < dongs> real pros do bath 2016-03-25T13:48:30 < dongs> you are very wrong 2016-03-25T13:51:27 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-195-14.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T13:53:16 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-154-148.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-25T14:01:50 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T14:02:33 < englishman> baths are for emos 2016-03-25T14:02:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-25T14:04:40 < englishman> you wouldn't slit your wrists in a shower 2016-03-25T14:09:31 < Fleck> soo, noone had problems with RTC-RPLL/H regs after reset? 2016-03-25T14:09:43 < dongs> whats the "problem"? 2016-03-25T14:29:21 < FatalNIX> You know I've always been told that arm assembly is beatiful, and the more I use it, the more I hate it compared to something primative like 6502 assembly lol 2016-03-25T14:30:12 < FatalNIX> I actally haven't written assembly on a PIC before 2016-03-25T14:30:17 < FatalNIX> I avoid PICs 2016-03-25T14:31:53 < FatalNIX> also I didn't look very hard, but I didn't notice an instruction in arm for branching with link and pushing LR onto the stack at the same time 2016-03-25T14:32:04 < FatalNIX> just thought that was weird 2016-03-25T14:32:11 < FatalNIX> I could be blind 2016-03-25T14:33:48 < FatalNIX> on the 6502 it all happens in the same instuction 2016-03-25T14:33:48 < FatalNIX> jsr will push the PC onto the stack first 2016-03-25T14:34:07 < Fleck> on F103 RTC->PRLL gets reset after power cycle, vbat is ok, in the same time - BKP->RTCCR keeps value also RTC->CNT does and even keeps counting, PRLL and PRLH are reset to RESET values... as I need presacler a bit different than RESET value, this messes everything up :/ 2016-03-25T14:34:22 < FatalNIX> just feels weird to have to waste an instruction to do it manually after and before beginning and ending a subroutine 2016-03-25T14:35:49 -!- XTL_ is now known as XTL 2016-03-25T14:37:16 < BrainDamage> the paged memory in pic gives me eye cancer 2016-03-25T14:39:41 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-25T14:39:55 < FatalNIX> maybe we should do everything in redcode 2016-03-25T14:39:59 < FatalNIX> :> 2016-03-25T14:40:12 * FatalNIX wonders if anyone will even get that reference 2016-03-25T14:41:10 < BrainDamage> there's always the mumps: http://thedailywtf.com/articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS 2016-03-25T14:42:41 < FatalNIX> lol.. 2016-03-25T14:42:53 < FatalNIX> At first I thought there was another mumps otbreak 2016-03-25T14:42:56 < FatalNIX> outbreak* 2016-03-25T14:45:38 < dongs> sadly paged shit is used by a lot of 8051 crap t oo 2016-03-25T14:46:05 < dongs> but im gonna guess not as aids as pic. 2016-03-25T14:46:50 < FatalNIX> paging itself isn't bad 2016-03-25T14:46:50 < FatalNIX> In fact it's kind of nicer than segmentation really 2016-03-25T14:48:32 < BrainDamage> paging _is_ a form segmentation 2016-03-25T14:48:48 < dongs> segregation 2016-03-25T14:48:55 < dongs> racist mcus 2016-03-25T14:49:35 < FatalNIX> lol 2016-03-25T14:49:53 < FatalNIX> BrainDamage: you're right, but I was making fun of the old x86 segmentation features 2016-03-25T15:01:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-25T15:18:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T15:22:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-25T15:25:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T15:54:31 < FatalNIX> ... 2016-03-25T15:55:30 -!- FatalNIX 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U.S. Secretary of Defense and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to hold a press briefing shortly. 2016-03-25T16:12:05 < dongs> he should be killed just for having that long fuckup of a name 2016-03-25T16:14:19 < dongs> http://boingboing.net/2016/03/24/handgun-looks-like-a-smartphon.html fucking americans 2016-03-25T16:15:49 < dongs> Laurenceb: http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?195546-Ebola-Virus 2016-03-25T16:18:16 < mitrax> wow 2016-03-25T16:18:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T16:20:44 < dongs> he also made some pretty pro AIDS renderings http://kashpersky.com/hr/HIV_wide.jpg 2016-03-25T16:21:15 < mitrax> truely amazin 2016-03-25T16:21:18 < mitrax> amazing 2016-03-25T16:23:50 < kakimir> I need to check myself someday if I have aids 2016-03-25T16:23:58 < kakimir> so that I know 2016-03-25T16:24:03 < dongs> why would you have it 2016-03-25T16:24:05 < dongs> you never leave your basement 2016-03-25T16:26:31 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T16:27:24 < kakimir> but when I actually do things get weird 2016-03-25T16:28:18 < mitrax> weird as in? 2016-03-25T16:28:33 < mitrax> you wake up the next day with a condom hanging from your ass? 2016-03-25T16:29:32 < Thorn> turns out it6720 is the same thing as bk precision 9110 2016-03-25T16:29:41 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUwL7MOSLsc 2016-03-25T16:31:10 < Thorn> which is $300+ 2016-03-25T16:33:02 < dongs> BREAKING: Blast heard in Brussels, details unclear; an anti-terrorist raid is reportedly ongoing, as crowds gather to pay respect after the recent attacks 2016-03-25T16:36:03 < kakimir> url 2016-03-25T16:42:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-25T16:50:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-25T16:52:24 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-25T17:03:10 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Load-Firmware-onto-newly-Manufactured/ 2016-03-25T17:05:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T17:24:38 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T17:38:04 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T17:41:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.112.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T17:42:18 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-25T17:43:48 < kakimir> is there usually some macro defined for begin address of RAM or so? 2016-03-25T17:44:26 < Laurenceb_> why would you be using one? 2016-03-25T17:45:19 < kakimir> I want to do this SPI command I can probe my ram with 2016-03-25T17:45:46 < kakimir> directly gather data from ram without more handlers to it 2016-03-25T17:46:01 < kakimir> so I need to have begin address and range 2016-03-25T17:50:02 < PaulFertser> kakimir: global symbol _sdata -- start, _estack --end 2016-03-25T17:56:25 < kakimir> thanks 2016-03-25T18:02:17 < PaulFertser> kakimir: check your ld script if unsure. You need to define those as extern yourself if you want to have them available in your C code of course. 2016-03-25T18:03:00 < kakimir> stack means ram? 2016-03-25T18:03:17 < kakimir> extern - where? 2016-03-25T18:03:23 < kakimir> :) 2016-03-25T18:05:05 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-25T18:05:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-25T18:08:03 < PaulFertser> kakimir: whereever you need it. 2016-03-25T18:14:25 < kakimir> where are those global symbols defined? 2016-03-25T18:14:32 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-25T18:16:05 < PaulFertser> kakimir: in the ld script 2016-03-25T18:16:18 < Laurenceb_> hopefully 2016-03-25T18:16:38 < Laurenceb_> unless your c&p mess of a project got screwed up :D 2016-03-25T18:17:32 < kakimir> so I extern uint32_t _sdata; 2016-03-25T18:18:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T18:22:40 < FatalNIX> whee 2016-03-25T18:23:19 < kakimir> * *_sdata 2016-03-25T18:23:23 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/USmlTW.jpg 2016-03-25T18:36:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T18:39:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T18:39:40 < PaulFertser> kakimir: yep 2016-03-25T19:03:54 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-25T19:14:03 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T19:14:58 < mitrax> gah -fno-exceptions doesn't seem to work 2016-03-25T19:23:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T19:29:13 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-25T19:35:26 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2a00:801:205:b14d:81ad:fd3:269c:ccac] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T19:39:53 < Laurenceb_> There was a young chatbot called Tay, On Twitter with 4chan did play, They messed with her brain, She's trolled, that is plain! And she barely lasted a day. 2016-03-25T19:40:03 < Laurenceb_> very clvr 2016-03-25T19:48:26 < Laurenceb_> found the guy who moderates the emdrive forum https://www.linkedin.com/in/joserodal 2016-03-25T19:48:40 < Laurenceb_> doesnt look like an idiot at all... very odd 2016-03-25T19:49:46 < BrainDamage> they are chasing an impossible dream, but they could still develop or discover something interestin anyway 2016-03-25T19:50:01 < BrainDamage> waveguide analysis tools, mathematical methods, etc 2016-03-25T19:50:39 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-25T19:59:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.112.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-25T20:01:40 < Sync> well, even educated people can be idiots 2016-03-25T20:02:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T20:12:27 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2a00:801:205:b14d:81ad:fd3:269c:ccac] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-25T20:13:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T20:23:51 -!- rewolff2 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-25T20:32:22 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T20:40:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T21:01:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-25T21:16:43 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-25T21:39:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-25T21:41:29 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T21:48:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-25T22:04:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-25T22:09:01 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-195-14.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-25T22:17:55 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T22:22:56 < jadew> Laurenceb, just make sure you use a incognito window when visiting random linkedin accounts 2016-03-25T22:23:24 < jadew> unless you want to end up with them in your network 2016-03-25T22:28:31 < jadew> I wouldn't mind some extra contacts tho, my linkedin profile is depressing 2016-03-25T22:28:44 < jadew> 18 contacts 2016-03-25T22:28:57 < jadew> more than I have on facebook I think 2016-03-25T22:29:59 < scrts> lol 2016-03-25T22:30:06 < scrts> you're really social 2016-03-25T22:30:23 < jadew> I know 2016-03-25T22:33:19 * karlp doesn't even have a linkedin account 2016-03-25T22:33:38 < Steffanx> amature. 2016-03-25T22:33:43 < karlp> so, anyone have any opinions on the scammyness of the "canvio ready" vs the "canvio basics" ? http://www.toshiba.eu/hard-drives/portable/ 2016-03-25T22:34:03 < karlp> they're both claiming "usb 3.0" but "high speed usb 3" vs "super speed usb 3" sounds like it's really usb 2 vs usb 3. 2016-03-25T22:34:11 < karlp> which is a pretty major fucking difference. 2016-03-25T22:34:12 < jadew> karlp, you should get one and become my friend 2016-03-25T22:34:45 < jadew> and back my skills cuz most of the people I work with ha no idea wtf I do 2016-03-25T22:34:57 < karlp> reviews on line for the canvio basics talk about it as "usb 3" as in "faster then usb2" but.... pretty fucking dubious... 2016-03-25T22:34:58 < jadew> *have 2016-03-25T22:35:32 < karlp> heh, your ##hashSuperTechMasters32 profile is to be considered as serious professional references? ;) 2016-03-25T22:35:46 < Steffanx> beign friends with some weird romanian.. no thanks jadew :P 2016-03-25T22:35:54 < jadew> haha 2016-03-25T22:36:04 < jadew> I have the same attitude lol 2016-03-25T22:36:44 < jadew> I got a few random requests, one was from a romanian I don't know 2016-03-25T22:36:53 < Steffanx> Except for: it looks nice i have no opinion karlp 2016-03-25T22:36:55 < jadew> don't know how he found my account 2016-03-25T22:37:11 < Steffanx> ( the alu ones at least ) 2016-03-25T22:37:36 < jadew> karlp, odds are that whatever speed the controller can do, the HDD can barely keep up 2016-03-25T22:38:26 < jadew> no mention of RPM 2016-03-25T22:38:31 < jadew> it's a HDD, right? 2016-03-25T22:38:36 < jadew> (not SSD) 2016-03-25T22:40:55 < karlp> jadew: umm, usb2 drives were often limted by usb2, not by the drive... 2016-03-25T22:41:10 < jadew> yeah, but this one says USB3, compatible with USB2 2016-03-25T22:41:17 < jadew> so I guess it offers USB3 speeds 2016-03-25T22:42:24 < Steffanx> funny, you buy a hdd and get 10 GB cloud storage? 2016-03-25T22:42:59 < jadew> Steffanx, depending on the period and the performance/API it might not be worth it 2016-03-25T22:43:07 < jadew> google cloud storage or AWS is quite cheap 2016-03-25T22:43:53 < jadew> google's cloud storage is better 2016-03-25T22:44:06 < jadew> (faster upload) 2016-03-25T22:44:33 < jadew> AWS has gone from bad to worse 2016-03-25T22:47:31 < Steffanx> karlp, the datasheet of the basics says its superspeed => 5GB/s 2016-03-25T22:47:34 < Steffanx> *Gb 2016-03-25T22:47:52 < jadew> that's more than the HDD can handle 2016-03-25T22:49:25 < Steffanx> oh ds also says high speed :) 2016-03-25T22:49:48 < jadew> yeah, in the sense that it supports USB2.0, no? 2016-03-25T22:51:26 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-03-25T22:52:32 < Steffanx> no clue what toshiba is up to 2016-03-25T23:05:39 < ohsix> backblaze has b2 now 2016-03-25T23:13:56 < Steffanx> Never heard of them before. 2016-03-25T23:14:46 < Steffanx> Also i allergic to companies that have "... in the News" with some big websites on their homepage 2016-03-25T23:16:24 < ohsix> they do backup stuff but recently rolled out a cdn cloud storage thing, they're pretty legit 2016-03-25T23:16:36 < ohsix> not aws/google scale (yet, if ever) but a place to stash stuff 2016-03-25T23:16:56 < Steffanx> *i'm 2016-03-25T23:17:26 < ohsix> for the backup stuff it's like 5$/mo for unlimited storage or something, they make it up on copying disks and doing other things for faster restores 2016-03-25T23:19:23 < kakimir> do you know any code for mcu, nice hack or so to provide SPI connection for computer? 2016-03-25T23:19:52 < ohsix> flyback: you connect them with some sort of control loop, dll/pll; the refresh rate of the screen is one clock and the music is another, they both progress at a given rate 2016-03-25T23:20:36 < kakimir> flyback: I need to test my interface 2016-03-25T23:20:39 < kakimir> hey 2016-03-25T23:21:12 < kakimir> paralller port... I may actually have one 2016-03-25T23:21:33 < kakimir> I have level converters 2016-03-25T23:21:48 < kakimir> but spi is one direction per line so 2016-03-25T23:21:51 < kakimir> buffers it is 2016-03-25T23:22:07 < Steffanx> you can also hack something together with some discovery you have? :) 2016-03-25T23:22:22 < Steffanx> or no stm32 discoveries for kakimir? 2016-03-25T23:23:08 < kakimir> no 2016-03-25T23:23:19 < kakimir> I just realized I have fukken raspbi 2016-03-25T23:23:40 < kakimir> but I dont want to play with raspbi it suck 2016-03-25T23:24:19 < kakimir> it's bellow poor mans methods.. some 2003 laptop easily wins it at everything 2016-03-25T23:24:42 < Steffanx> it's bellow poor mans methods .. 2016-03-25T23:25:00 < Steffanx> Yeah, you better fuck around with a parallel port. 2016-03-25T23:25:29 < kakimir> hay hay hay 2016-03-25T23:25:43 < kakimir> isn't avrasp some SPI device? 2016-03-25T23:26:13 < Steffanx> it is, but its very unlikey you can do "normal"spi with it. 2016-03-25T23:26:18 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-25T23:26:54 < Steffanx> also it lacks sma connectors 2016-03-25T23:27:38 < Steffanx> no pirate bus is some box somewhere in your room kakimir? 2016-03-25T23:27:57 < ohsix> hook up some buttons and play them like an spi piano 2016-03-25T23:28:34 < Steffanx> ohsix is into music mode? 2016-03-25T23:29:11 < ohsix> hur, maybe but i didn't realize i might have said that until you mentioned it 2016-03-25T23:29:19 < ohsix> was thinking of front panel switch entry on old minicomputers 2016-03-25T23:30:46 < kakimir> Steffanx: there is timeout period 2016-03-25T23:31:06 < kakimir> and I dont than spi periph goes that slow I need it to 2016-03-25T23:31:30 < kakimir> and it's not 19-70's anyway 2016-03-25T23:32:35 < kakimir> can you really get better computer for debug server than some 2003 laptop 2016-03-25T23:32:44 < kakimir> it even has paraller port to it 2016-03-25T23:35:00 < kakimir> is there some nice lunix tools for manually sending stuff on spi? 2016-03-25T23:37:59 < kakimir> some 90's vintage 2016-03-25T23:40:40 < kakimir> I may have 2016-03-25T23:40:42 < kakimir> some 2016-03-25T23:40:44 < kakimir> around 2016-03-25T23:40:56 < kakimir> but don't you need some custom driver and shiet? 2016-03-25T23:41:32 < kakimir> how about SPI ? 2016-03-25T23:42:11 < kakimir> can I btw use rs232 ass some SPI? 2016-03-25T23:42:16 < kakimir> just refunction the lines 2016-03-25T23:42:37 < Thorn> http://www.ftdichip.com/FT-X.htm 2016-03-25T23:42:40 < ds2> just do ACM 2016-03-25T23:43:24 < kakimir> I'm getting confused 2016-03-25T23:44:48 < kakimir> was there some reason for not using paraller port? 2016-03-25T23:44:59 < ohsix> those uh, salae 'logic analyzer' clones on ebay are just fx2s, you can do fast io with them and there are random firmwares on the internet you can put on them 2016-03-25T23:45:09 < ohsix> primary reason: not having one 2016-03-25T23:45:13 < ohsix> secondary reason: very slow 2016-03-25T23:45:42 < ohsix> http://www.cypress.com/documentation/application-notes-obsolete/an67442-spi-implementation-using-serialmode-0-ez-usb-fx2lp 2016-03-25T23:45:47 < kakimir> I have 2016-03-25T23:46:35 < ohsix> http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/167247/mcu123_saleae_logic_clone_pcb_top.jpg 2016-03-25T23:46:49 < ohsix> they are handy even if you don't get one just to do what you're doing now 2016-03-25T23:47:16 < ohsix> there's a little 8051 on them and you can basically just blast bits in and out of all the pins 2016-03-25T23:47:21 < kakimir> is paraller port really slow? 2016-03-25T23:47:43 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-25T23:47:49 < kakimir> didn't it get faster and faster all the time? 2016-03-25T23:47:58 < kakimir> like serial port 2016-03-25T23:48:06 < ohsix> if it's a real one it's accessed with io commands on the bus, and it has to slew -/+ 12v or something voltages 2016-03-25T23:48:47 < ohsix> usb ones can be faster cuz of usb and the lower voltages, but it's still not 'designed' to be super fast 2016-03-25T23:49:20 < kakimir> oh that 12volt thing :/ 2016-03-25T23:50:03 < ds2> parallel port is just a latch on the 8MHz ISA bus 2016-03-25T23:51:05 < kakimir> there are some ISA bus hobbiest out there 2016-03-25T23:51:11 < kakimir> I read an article 2016-03-25T23:51:16 < ohsix> was source currents or anything specified anywhere or was it just 'use part X' and then a de-facto limit from that part 2016-03-25T23:51:42 -!- artag [~artag@artag.phoenixhaven.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-25T23:53:53 < kakimir> first google search in fx2 spi doesn't show any obivious ways 2016-03-25T23:53:54 < ohsix> jadew: now if i could just get windows to remember passwords for network mounts :< 2016-03-25T23:54:08 < jadew> ohsix, you can 2016-03-25T23:54:15 < jadew> it should give you the option when you map it 2016-03-25T23:54:22 < kakimir> Application notes on "SPI Implementation Using SerialMode" 2016-03-25T23:54:37 < kakimir> I'm not like... doing my implementation on stuff 2016-03-25T23:55:12 < ohsix> jadew: yea it doesn't work :p i went through all the 'vault' ui and stuff to make sure everything looked right too 2016-03-25T23:55:38 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-195-14.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-25T23:55:48 < ohsix> kakimir: that's just background on doing it with the fx2, people have already done the work and you'd just flash it 2016-03-25T23:56:06 < jadew> ohsix, weird, I never had issues with this 2016-03-25T23:56:13 < kakimir> is it official flash or 3rd party? 2016-03-25T23:56:16 < jadew> are you trying to login with different accounts on the same server? 2016-03-25T23:56:43 < ohsix> jadew: different accounts on different servers, i'm not too interested in really finding out, it's not that annoying 2016-03-25T23:57:14 < ohsix> cursory look saw people having the same problem, and again nothing working, yadda yadda --- Day changed Sat Mar 26 2016 2016-03-26T00:04:17 < Laurenceb_> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwidgets-widgets-styles-example.html 2016-03-26T00:04:29 < Laurenceb_> I think they took the "style" too seriously 2016-03-26T00:04:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T00:05:40 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-26T00:05:59 < ohsix> there was actually a heyday for those bitmapped interfaces, mostly due to osx i think 2016-03-26T00:06:24 < ohsix> cute calling it noreweigan wood, also a beatles song 2016-03-26T00:07:53 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying implement "progressbar" style semi shaded buttons 2016-03-26T00:08:04 < Laurenceb_> dunno if this is possible using GradientStop 2016-03-26T00:09:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T00:09:32 < ohsix> you probably shouldn't do any styling if it doesn't look right with the themes people will use D: 2016-03-26T00:09:50 < Laurenceb_> well it already looks a bit odd 2016-03-26T00:10:06 < Laurenceb_> but it needs to be simple to use in the field 2016-03-26T00:10:14 < ohsix> visualbasic let people change control colors really easily and it did not end well 2016-03-26T00:10:19 < Laurenceb_> hehe 2016-03-26T00:10:35 < Laurenceb_> well my buttons are colour coded to the hardware they control 2016-03-26T00:11:40 < kakimir> is there such "terminal" program for SPI? 2016-03-26T00:11:50 < kakimir> or is it all spi api? 2016-03-26T00:12:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T00:12:11 < kakimir> lunix host 2016-03-26T00:14:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T00:14:21 < kakimir> google is seriously playing a joke on me 2016-03-26T00:15:30 < kakimir> youtube gives baby diapers 2016-03-26T00:15:36 < kakimir> ads 2016-03-26T00:17:12 < kakimir> I don't even wanna know 2016-03-26T00:17:28 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T00:18:12 -!- 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ohsix> you install it and then you use it 2016-03-26T00:38:46 < ohsix> openocd/linkerscripts/everything else is doable but jeeze is figuring out how to do it the first go ap ain in the balls 2016-03-26T00:39:56 < kakimir> AP ? 2016-03-26T00:40:09 < ohsix> ap ain 2016-03-26T00:40:33 < ohsix> synergy sucks bad, sorry; spaces don't go in the right place occasionally and letters are even translocated, it's real shit 2016-03-26T00:41:49 < kakimir> that is the logic I see 2016-03-26T00:42:00 < kakimir> also if corporation then moneyaintathing 2016-03-26T00:42:03 < ohsix> yea man i have a hundred seats for my medium to large sized embedded systems business 2016-03-26T00:42:07 < kakimir> do not support open shiet 2016-03-26T00:42:24 < ohsix> innuendo? 2016-03-26T00:44:22 < ohsix> http://pimg.tradeindia.com/01535614/b/1/PVC-Water-Hand-Pump.jpg ? 2016-03-26T00:44:38 < ohsix> http://www.top-pumps.com/pro/20110207065306.jpg ? 2016-03-26T00:44:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh 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ohsix> what is it 2016-03-26T03:10:02 < jadew> compiling a test program now 2016-03-26T03:10:36 < jadew> lol... it doesn't show up in the screenshots 2016-03-26T03:10:59 < jadew> I'm making a custom shaped window 2016-03-26T03:11:10 < jadew> and on my monitor that doesn't run on a native resolution 2016-03-26T03:11:56 < ohsix> using window regions? 2016-03-26T03:11:59 < jadew> it ends up with physical pixels that are neither in nor out (smaller than a pixel at my current resolution) 2016-03-26T03:12:01 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-26T03:12:24 < ohsix> that's old world apocrypha, even microsoft might not have defined what is supposed to happen 2016-03-26T03:12:26 < jadew> so you end up with a dark frame around the window 2016-03-26T03:13:07 < jadew> I wonder if there even is a fix for this... 2016-03-26T03:13:09 < ohsix> it's probably something the driver can still mess up too, if it accelerates regions; they might have dumped that all in vista/wddm tho 2016-03-26T03:13:13 < jadew> nothing can touch those pixels 2016-03-26T03:13:26 < jadew> true, I considered that too 2016-03-26T03:14:34 < jadew> not really sure what my choices are 2016-03-26T03:14:44 < ohsix> good luck ololol; been putting off stuff i need to do for days now 2016-03-26T03:15:18 < jadew> I guess I'll have to do it differently just to avoid this issue 2016-03-26T03:15:45 < jadew> would be interesting to see what nvidia has to say about this 2016-03-26T03:16:05 < jadew> it's most likely their issue 2016-03-26T03:16:07 < jadew> AH! 2016-03-26T03:16:09 < jadew> I had an idea 2016-03-26T03:16:19 < ohsix> http://i.imgur.com/pbainzJ.jpg 2016-03-26T03:16:30 < ohsix> isn't there something new you can use other than window regions? 2016-03-26T03:16:42 < ohsix> with uhh direct2d or the new compositing stuff that came with xpf 2016-03-26T03:16:56 < jadew> I'm targetting windows xp 2016-03-26T03:17:02 < jadew> & up 2016-03-26T03:17:06 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-26T03:17:22 < ohsix> wpf not xpf; you could install it on xp, might have been .net only 2016-03-26T03:17:30 < ohsix> now xp is dead you might not be able to get the installers, shrug 2016-03-26T03:17:31 < jadew> yeah, it's .net only 2016-03-26T03:17:41 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-26T03:17:49 < jadew> and if I went for wpf, then my efforts for the last month would have been in vain 2016-03-26T03:18:18 < jadew> I got back to an old project of mine and wrote a docking framework for WTL, from scratch 2016-03-26T03:20:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-26T03:20:22 < jadew> it's the video drivers 2016-03-26T03:20:28 < jadew> I had GPU scaling on 2016-03-26T03:20:32 < jadew> and that's what's causing it 2016-03-26T03:20:43 < jadew> if the scaling is done by the display, it works as expected 2016-03-26T03:21:08 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-26T03:21:18 < jadew> I suppose I should just file a bug report with nVidia and leave it like it is 2016-03-26T03:23:14 < jadew> funny, after I switched to display scaling and then back to GPU scaling, it works fine 2016-03-26T03:42:26 < ReadError> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/25/hacker-takes-credit-colleges-investigate-anti-semi/?page=1 2016-03-26T03:42:30 < ReadError> ole weev back at it 2016-03-26T03:43:15 < ohsix> did he just find out about scour 2016-03-26T03:43:18 < ohsix> don't tell him about shodan 2016-03-26T03:43:26 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-26T03:43:31 < ReadError> bets on how long before hes back in jail? 2016-03-26T03:43:46 < ohsix> no idea 2016-03-26T03:43:58 < ohsix> i think the backstop being nazi paraphanelia might keep him from being directly prosecuted 2016-03-26T03:44:32 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T03:45:18 < ReadError> hm? 2016-03-26T03:45:35 < ohsix> the things hep rinted 2016-03-26T03:47:06 < ReadError> He claims to have within minutes identified roughly 29,000 printers that were connected to the Internet and could be exploited through an open port, then automated a procedure that asked each vulnerable machine to print the Daily Stormer ad. 2016-03-26T03:47:14 < ReadError> within minutes....29k 2016-03-26T03:47:16 < ReadError> gtfo 2016-03-26T03:48:21 < ohsix> that's not hard to do 2016-03-26T03:48:32 < ohsix> i think weev thinks he's doing something good by pointing it out 2016-03-26T03:48:46 < ohsix> but like i said it sounds like he just found scour/shodan and was doing something stupid 2016-03-26T03:49:08 < ReadError> I just think the 29k and minutes part is BS 2016-03-26T03:50:25 < ohsix> yea i got that 2016-03-26T03:50:27 < ohsix> it's probably not 2016-03-26T03:51:11 < ReadError> unless he had a botnet 2016-03-26T03:51:17 < ohsix> none of that shit is 'internet of things' either 2016-03-26T03:51:21 < ohsix> he does, it's called amazon 2016-03-26T03:51:23 < ReadError> lets say theres 3 printers per /24 2016-03-26T03:51:34 < ohsix> you could probably do it in a few minutes from my home connection 2016-03-26T03:51:42 < ReadError> thats a lot of scanning quickly 2016-03-26T03:51:52 < ohsix> you don't scan and do stuff at the same time 2016-03-26T03:51:58 < ohsix> you scan EVERYTHING and then look at the results 2016-03-26T03:52:06 < ohsix> then do something against a subset of the scan results 2016-03-26T03:55:00 < ohsix> extrapolating it to 'internet of things' is just trying to earn credit in the area in the press i think 2016-03-26T03:55:11 < ohsix> cuz these printers are not 'internet of things', they're literally printers 2016-03-26T03:56:06 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-26T03:56:42 < ohsix> scanning the internet doesn't take that long either :< 2016-03-26T03:56:59 < Laurenceb_> did someone say weev 2016-03-26T03:57:01 < ohsix> i've got enough bandwidth at home now to do it in a few days 2016-03-26T03:57:23 < Laurenceb_> lol I used to be able to see all NHS hospital printers 2016-03-26T03:57:35 < Laurenceb_> probably still can with a bit of gateway hacking 2016-03-26T03:57:41 < ohsix> dongs: https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/03/25/gigadevice-cortex-m3-weekend-die-shot/ 2016-03-26T03:58:39 < Laurenceb_> ooh gigadevice 2016-03-26T03:58:49 < Laurenceb_> now to see how similar to stm it is 2016-03-26T03:59:01 < ohsix> adafr00t blog lags a bit, that's how you know it is legit 2016-03-26T03:59:14 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: it's just referring to the zeptobars post from a while ago 2016-03-26T03:59:22 < jadew> works fine for me and my awesome connection 2016-03-26T03:59:29 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-03-26T04:00:07 < jadew> about the "hacker", I'm not impressed 2016-03-26T04:00:17 < jadew> lots of people have shared printers on open networks 2016-03-26T04:00:32 < ohsix> ReadError: even if the printer were reachable from the internet, it is still hard to argue it is wrong; it becomes a problem when there is massive abuse, but for people using the printer in the building or in the network, it is much more work to make it 'secure'; it is just a printer 2016-03-26T04:00:55 < ohsix> there are multifunction printers that store scanned documents and shit that would be REALLY bad to have on the internet, but just a printer, dunno 2016-03-26T04:01:09 < PeterM> something slightly more practial i did back in the day - straya has had internet usage caps since the beginning, and they used to be stupidly small, like 10gb for adsl, so i used to scan for open port 80/8080 on public IPs in subnets owned by my isp, use defaultusernames/passwords on modems and pull isp accoutn details out of them, and use them for extra data, would take me 5 mins to get liek 100 accounts 2016-03-26T04:01:14 < ohsix> you can also dial numbers and look for fax machines 2016-03-26T04:01:26 < PeterM> finding 29k p[rinters would NOT be hard 2016-03-26T04:02:18 * jadew holds his toungue 2016-03-26T04:02:32 < ohsix> https://www.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A9100 2016-03-26T04:02:42 < jadew> I did a lot of crap when I was a kid, nothing this haneous tho 2016-03-26T04:02:54 < jadew> but I probably annoyed a couple of people 2016-03-26T04:03:07 < ohsix> yea everyone did 2016-03-26T04:03:13 < ohsix> weev is an adult and doing it deliberately 2016-03-26T04:03:50 < PeterM> jadew noone lost anything from it, ISPs allowed simultaneous connections from the same username, so i'd jsut log in, use up all their data and then move on, thgey'd be slowed odwn to 64k but oh noes 2016-03-26T04:04:24 < jadew> PeterM, heh, I didn't meant that what you did was haenous 2016-03-26T04:04:33 < jadew> I like what you did :) 2016-03-26T04:04:37 < ohsix> PeterM: that would get you jacksonbrown jail time now 2016-03-26T04:04:57 < PeterM> yeah, probably but it's beyond the statute of limitations now so i dont catre 2016-03-26T04:05:01 < PeterM> care even 2016-03-26T04:05:32 < ohsix> the udid in the apple devices were sequential/otherwise guessable, they went to jail because they asked an open to the internet unauthenticated service from at&t to get peoples email addresses and stuff from the udid 2016-03-26T04:05:56 < ohsix> 'abuse' has a wide interpretation 2016-03-26T04:06:04 < jadew> heh 2016-03-26T04:06:18 < ohsix> 'fraud' doesn't, but hey it's a wild internet out there 2016-03-26T04:06:20 < PeterM> what was that website that had the index of open IPcameras from aroudn the world? i feel like killing some time 2016-03-26T04:06:35 < ohsix> probably shodan 2016-03-26T04:07:09 < PeterM> i know you can find them on shodan (thats the kidna thing its for) btuthis has a filtered list of open, default credentials etc ipcameras with nice ui 2016-03-26T04:07:30 < ohsix> wow there are a lot of sip endpoints in china open to the internet 2016-03-26T04:07:46 < ohsix> yea i vaguely remember that too 2016-03-26T04:07:49 < jadew> really? so you can call anywhere in the world for free? 2016-03-26T04:08:07 < ohsix> maybe 2016-03-26T04:08:12 < ohsix> dunno enough about sip to say 2016-03-26T04:08:28 < ohsix> https://www.shodan.io/search?query=%22register+sip%22 2016-03-26T04:08:37 < jadew> I guess if their server allows it, it should work 2016-03-26T04:08:55 < jadew> but you need user/pass to authenticate tho 2016-03-26T04:09:04 < jadew> each client has a unique user/pass 2016-03-26T04:09:45 < jadew> yeah, I guess it makes sense for them to be open 2016-03-26T04:09:48 < ohsix> PeterM: yea it was shodan, it was one of the maps; a few years ago you could access it without a username/password 2016-03-26T04:09:56 < jadew> you kinda want to be able to connect to it from across the internet 2016-03-26T04:10:54 * jadew didn't know about Shodan 2016-03-26T04:10:56 < PeterM> ohsix, no i remember distinctly it wasnt shodan, it was similar to this website but not quite the same https://www.insecam.org/ 2016-03-26T04:11:20 < ohsix> k 2016-03-26T04:11:41 < ohsix> shodan DID have a thing a few years ago that was exactly that :p 2016-03-26T04:11:59 < ohsix> and they had it to get press in like 2013 2016-03-26T04:12:22 < PeterM> yeah, i know 2016-03-26T04:12:39 < PeterM> i used to watch them all the time, like people watch dashcams these days 2016-03-26T04:12:53 < ohsix> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2844283/microsoft-subnet/peeping-into-73-000-unsecured-security-cameras-thanks-to-default-passwords.html here's an article about insecam 2016-03-26T04:14:02 < ohsix> heheh that's weird 2016-03-26T04:14:17 < ohsix> ah i see, insecam was later 2016-03-26T04:14:34 < ohsix> shodan press abou webcams was 2013, insecam 2014 2016-03-26T04:15:02 < PeterM> yeah, it wansnt insecam, it was wsimilar to insecam 2016-03-26T04:15:11 < ohsix> no clue 2016-03-26T04:15:17 < ohsix> was it security oriented? 2016-03-26T04:15:30 < PeterM> nah it was for bored people browsin the internets 2016-03-26T04:15:32 < ohsix> there are a bunch of big indexes, or at least there were like 8 years ago 2016-03-26T04:15:33 < ohsix> ic 2016-03-26T04:16:02 < jadew> were any of them interesting? 2016-03-26T04:16:03 < ohsix> heh nice, earthcam is still around 2016-03-26T04:16:26 < PeterM> jadew yes 2016-03-26T04:16:53 < ohsix> http://www.earthcamtv.com/index.php haha wat 2016-03-26T04:17:08 < ohsix> they have a 'tv' channel with music over webcams in places 2016-03-26T04:17:40 < jadew> is that insecam still live? 2016-03-26T04:17:42 < ohsix> what's going on there, the stairs 2016-03-26T04:18:01 < jadew> ah, looks like it is 2016-03-26T04:19:43 < ohsix> http://static.earthcamcdn.com/hof/newyork/timessquare/1458956523172_69.jpg stairs from another angle 2016-03-26T04:20:08 < ohsix> http://static.earthcamcdn.com/hof/newyork/timessquare/1458956625196_58.jpg and another one 2016-03-26T04:20:48 < ohsix> ReadError: the funniest part of any weev press is that they call him mister aureuwhuerhurner 2016-03-26T04:21:12 < ohsix> they should call him a professional chimp or something 2016-03-26T04:23:50 < PeterM> hey dongs, how big of a thing is solar in japang? 2016-03-26T04:24:38 < ohsix> oog he had an anecdote about hwo the japanese do things wrt solar but i don't remember it; it's nto a big thing 2016-03-26T04:25:24 < jadew> this is going to take me a lot of time... 2016-03-26T04:25:31 < jadew> going through all these cameras 2016-03-26T04:27:18 < PeterM> gday 2016-03-26T04:29:06 < englishman> PeterM: crt: my pops is in oz for work, he just sent me these photos http://imgur.com/a/Is6Ya 2016-03-26T04:29:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T04:29:55 < ohsix> what attacked that person 2016-03-26T04:30:00 < ohsix> cuts in clothes look too regular 2016-03-26T04:30:12 < englishman> roo with a knife 2016-03-26T04:30:34 < PeterM> i could see that happening 2016-03-26T04:32:33 < PeterM> i hit one/one ran into the tractor the other day, the kangaroo and the tractor both definitely felt it 2016-03-26T04:33:24 < PeterM> was just drivin down a row in the orchard and the roos all running accross the rows, bam, one itno the front of the tractor 2016-03-26T04:52:52 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-26T04:54:34 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T05:02:27 < dongs> ohsix: i dont get it why did aidsfruit just retweet pics wihtout adding anything new 2016-03-26T05:02:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T05:02:43 < ohsix> dongs: that blag is just a stream of cool/neat things 2016-03-26T05:02:52 < ohsix> dongs: it's way more legit to just do that than hackaday, for sure 2016-03-26T05:03:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T05:10:00 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/Id2kdpF.png 2016-03-26T05:10:09 < Laurenceb_> progress bar buttons 2016-03-26T05:16:33 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T05:25:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T05:26:29 < upgrdman> so old android used to have four buttons and one was to bring up app menus. new android does not have that, and some old app needs it. anyone know if there is a way to simulate that button press? 2016-03-26T05:26:51 < ohsix> it should show up as 3 dots on the edge of the software buttons 2016-03-26T05:27:08 < upgrdman> but it doesnt :( 2016-03-26T05:27:19 < upgrdman> fucking SSLdroid :/ 2016-03-26T05:27:21 < ohsix> are you using a legit android or cyanogen 2016-03-26T05:27:25 < upgrdman> legit 2016-03-26T05:27:29 < ohsix> cuz you can turn that button on and off 2016-03-26T05:27:30 < ohsix> hm 2016-03-26T05:27:32 < ohsix> dunno 2016-03-26T05:27:50 < PeterM> usuaulyl the context menu button appears when its functionality is needed 2016-03-26T05:27:56 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-26T05:27:59 < PeterM> if it doesnt appear then you're fucked 2016-03-26T05:28:03 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-26T05:28:34 < ohsix> the app can also do different ui for newer phones 2016-03-26T05:29:30 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T05:29:42 < upgrdman> iirc SSLdroid is the only stunnel-like android app 2016-03-26T05:29:47 < upgrdman> fuck me :/ 2016-03-26T05:30:31 < ohsix> isn't that popular ssh client able to do port forwarding 2016-03-26T05:30:46 < ohsix> connectbot 2016-03-26T05:31:13 < upgrdman> stunnel isnt just port fwding 2016-03-26T05:31:18 < upgrdman> its an SSL wrapper 2016-03-26T05:31:40 < upgrdman> which you need if you want your vpns in china to work 2016-03-26T05:31:41 < ohsix> right 2016-03-26T05:31:50 < ohsix> k i see the ui button on my phone 2016-03-26T05:31:56 < ohsix> it's in the top right next to 'SSLDroid' 2016-03-26T05:32:08 < ohsix> can post pix 2016-03-26T05:32:13 < upgrdman> i believe yuo 2016-03-26T05:32:17 < upgrdman> but i dont get it :( 2016-03-26T05:32:24 < upgrdman> wonder if this is specific to samsung android 2016-03-26T05:32:37 < ohsix> it got updated in 2015 for new android ui 2016-03-26T05:32:44 < ohsix> are you using play synced version of it? 2016-03-26T05:32:55 < upgrdman> no an APK from a coworker 2016-03-26T05:33:04 < upgrdman> does fap store let me download an APK? 2016-03-26T05:34:35 < ohsix> not directly but i can send you the one i just got 2016-03-26T05:34:58 < upgrdman> i just googled 2016-03-26T05:35:01 < upgrdman> and got an apkl 2016-03-26T05:35:05 < ohsix> k 2016-03-26T05:35:10 < upgrdman> 1.2.6 right 2016-03-26T05:35:22 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-26T05:35:40 < ohsix> it is probably available on f-droid too 2016-03-26T05:36:41 < upgrdman> https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=ssldroid&fdpage=1&page_id=0 :/ 2016-03-26T05:37:12 < upgrdman> brb 2016-03-26T05:37:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-26T05:40:31 -!- inca 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case something happens 2016-03-26T06:15:44 < ohsix> assuming nothing will happen, even 2016-03-26T06:15:57 < ohsix> the ones i used would let you write a dvd or to a flash drive 2016-03-26T06:16:17 < ohsix> it's like, not even harder to get video out, but you might not be allowed to by the company or something 2016-03-26T06:16:29 < ohsix> the company telling you you can't is going to be the 99% problem 2016-03-26T06:16:36 < ohsix> so you use your phone 2016-03-26T06:18:15 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T06:23:54 < dongs> damn i got a sick price on 950 pro 2016-03-26T06:24:47 < ohsix> wats that 2016-03-26T06:24:52 < dongs> samdung ssd shit 2016-03-26T06:25:09 < ohsix> is it one with the ncq discard problem? 2016-03-26T06:25:49 < dongs> yes I only buy ssd wiht issues 2016-03-26T06:55:20 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T06:58:24 < ohsix> dongs: http://i.imgur.com/AgCVfjY.jpg 2016-03-26T06:58:30 < ohsix> lewl wrong url earlier 2016-03-26T07:18:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T07:24:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T07:26:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T07:30:31 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T07:31:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T07:45:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T07:45:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T07:58:59 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.81.36] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T08:04:38 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.81.36] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-26T08:08:56 -!- 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2016-03-26T09:11:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.88] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T09:11:24 < ohsix> jimbo 2016-03-26T09:11:35 < PeterM> ayyyeee 2016-03-26T09:12:09 < ohsix> sydney is in australia isn't it 2016-03-26T09:12:18 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-26T09:12:27 < ohsix> what else is there 2016-03-26T09:13:10 < ohsix> and that's the only road right 2016-03-26T09:13:25 < ohsix> 3? 2016-03-26T09:13:32 < ohsix> hur joking aside 2016-03-26T09:13:43 < ohsix> what do you think about the aboriginal people 2016-03-26T09:13:49 < ohsix> and substance abuse 2016-03-26T09:13:52 < PeterM> crt, have you been to the cowdownie faire? 2016-03-26T09:14:10 < ohsix> do you like the movie: mad max 2016-03-26T09:14:22 < ohsix> i could do this all night 2016-03-26T09:14:36 < PeterM> ohsix, you mean the documentary? 2016-03-26T09:14:51 < ohsix> ya 2016-03-26T09:15:38 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5j_EcmRvaI 2016-03-26T09:19:05 < PeterM> nah looks fine, put in your headphones and jsut go. 2016-03-26T09:20:19 < PeterM> i like the soldering iron used at 1:56 2016-03-26T09:20:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-26T09:25:35 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-232-70.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T09:25:44 < PeterM> Metcal GT-9000 [gas torch] 2016-03-26T09:26:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T09:30:34 < ohsix> heyyyyyyy tim hunkin has a youtube channel 2016-03-26T09:30:45 < ohsix> the secret life of machines was _awesome_ 2016-03-26T09:38:20 < ohsix> there is one 2016-03-26T09:38:22 < ohsix> it is really bad 2016-03-26T09:38:31 < ohsix> also m ost of the videos weren't english, the french bastards 2016-03-26T09:42:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T09:49:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T09:50:21 < upgrdman> anyone here familiar with PKCS12 files? can they be used to store a PSK? 2016-03-26T09:50:46 < upgrdman> SSLdroid wants a PKCS12 file, but stunnel just uses a .txt file for PSKs :/ 2016-03-26T09:56:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:00:11 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac3e7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-26T10:03:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T10:07:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-26T10:11:01 < ohsix> they'll be in an export format 2016-03-26T10:11:06 < ohsix> o nm 2016-03-26T10:13:46 < effractur> a 2016-03-26T10:16:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T10:20:58 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:21:28 < Thorn> this book costs how much? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0757503756/ref=lpr_g_1/104-6309168-9196751?v=glance&s=books 2016-03-26T10:26:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T10:26:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:30:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T10:30:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:35:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:39:56 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T10:41:43 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:44:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T10:47:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh 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The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.  2016-03-26T10:56:19 < timemob> immediately thought of readstoner 2016-03-26T10:56:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T10:56:47 < timemob> correct. 2016-03-26T10:57:16 < timemob> bbl. 2016-03-26T10:57:18 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-26T10:59:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T11:01:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:01:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:03:51 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:04:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.88] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:08:29 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T11:09:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T11:14:24 < dongs> sup dongs. 2016-03-26T11:14:45 < ReadError> sniffin bozone 2016-03-26T11:18:28 < dongs> not surprised 2016-03-26T11:18:58 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac3e7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:19:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:23:26 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T11:25:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T11:26:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:29:17 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-226-162.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:30:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T11:31:16 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-232-70.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T11:37:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:41:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T11:42:30 < dongs> lol. 2016-03-26T11:42:34 < dongs> shut the fuck up 2016-03-26T11:45:02 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T11:49:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T12:07:49 < dongs> do youlike getting high 2016-03-26T12:15:33 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T12:20:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T12:20:55 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T12:23:20 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T12:23:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T12:26:43 < Thorn> crt: no, libgen doesn't have it in stock :( 2016-03-26T12:29:31 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T12:31:49 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: FatalNIX 2016-03-26T12:32:15 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hksgqnrujzqwoqsm] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-26T12:32:55 < Steffanx> Hello mr sir crt 2016-03-26T12:33:18 < Steffanx> No such thing today. 2016-03-26T12:33:31 < Steffanx> ( still no clue what it even is ) 2016-03-26T12:34:04 < Steffanx> only mr D does 2016-03-26T12:35:41 < Steffanx> how is todays day in aussieland? 2016-03-26T12:37:08 < dongs> as a pumper you ahve a pretty shit job 2016-03-26T12:45:13 < dongs> jobless in parents basement 2016-03-26T12:45:54 < dongs> how is that bad 2016-03-26T12:46:46 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T12:46:46 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-26T12:46:46 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T12:48:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: FatalNIX 2016-03-26T12:50:13 < BrainDamage> funnier would be 2x7815 with no degeneration 2016-03-26T12:53:13 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T12:54:14 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:05:31 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T13:07:09 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.57.107] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:10:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-26T13:13:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/28/why-wont-nhs-let-me-be-sterilised 2016-03-26T13:13:25 < Laurenceb_> so much Poe 2016-03-26T13:15:34 < Laurenceb_> its funny cuz its what hitler would have wanted 2016-03-26T13:16:13 < Laurenceb_> next up "why can't I gas myself to make hitler proud" 2016-03-26T13:20:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:24:56 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T13:25:34 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:25:59 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:30:01 < dongs> BREAKING: Belgian authorities find body of officer who works at a nuclear plant, say his work pass was stolen; pass now revoked amid fears that terrorists were planning a dirty bomb strike on a nuclear facility 2016-03-26T13:30:05 < dongs> lol 2016-03-26T13:30:09 < dongs> fucking belgium doesn't get any breaks 2016-03-26T13:30:28 < dongs> who teh fuck did tehy piss off 2016-03-26T13:32:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T13:33:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:38:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T13:39:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T13:39:15 < Laurenceb_> arg bubuntu is broke 2016-03-26T13:39:30 < Laurenceb_> screen brightness indicator showing all the time wtf 2016-03-26T13:39:34 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-26T13:39:42 < dongs> niggerbuntu on a laptop? 2016-03-26T13:39:48 < dongs> yo ugot nothing better to do? 2016-03-26T13:39:50 < dongs> lunix on mobiles, lawl 2016-03-26T13:39:55 < dongs> what's power management 2016-03-26T13:42:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T13:50:11 < rewolff1> > dirty bomb strike on a nuclear facility 2016-03-26T13:50:11 < rewolff1> Ehh. Someone doesn't understand the concept of "dirty bomb"? 2016-03-26T13:50:32 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.57.107] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-26T13:50:41 < dongs> donno im just retweeting 2016-03-26T13:50:48 < dongs> and im not a terrorist so I dont know professional terms 2016-03-26T13:56:50 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2016-03-26T13:56:52 < Laurenceb_> http://www.thedrum.com/news/2012/09/06/ad-agency-iris-worldwide-faces-online-backlash-over-iris-benefits-staff-booklet 2016-03-26T13:56:56 < Laurenceb_> this is genius 2016-03-26T13:59:29 < Fleck> so, noone knows why RTC-PRL resets after main power cycle on f103? vbat stays connected! 2016-03-26T13:59:46 < Laurenceb_> PRL ? 2016-03-26T14:00:02 < Laurenceb_> I forget what that does 2016-03-26T14:05:19 < Laurenceb_> ah yes the pedo register 2016-03-26T14:05:41 < Laurenceb_> when they say "you're going on the register" 2016-03-26T14:05:45 < Laurenceb_> whats what they mean 2016-03-26T14:08:03 < Sync> Laurenceb_: doesn't seem like the bookelet is offensive at all 2016-03-26T14:08:14 < Sync> just some typical brits being brits 2016-03-26T14:08:23 < Laurenceb_> I irl lolled 2016-03-26T14:08:40 < Laurenceb_> cuz its accurate 2016-03-26T14:12:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T14:13:25 < kakimir> sup my homos 2016-03-26T14:13:59 < kakimir> you still up crt 2016-03-26T14:14:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-26T14:19:01 < kakimir> kuopiosta merenkäyntikaupunni? 2016-03-26T14:19:13 < kakimir> hah wrong channel 2016-03-26T14:21:01 < kakimir> I have been doing some old boards over there 2016-03-26T14:21:07 < kakimir> connected to debug server 2016-03-26T14:21:24 < kakimir> and I desperatelly need SPI interface for that machine 2016-03-26T14:23:14 < kakimir> I don't know mate 2016-03-26T14:24:33 < kakimir> are you drunk? 2016-03-26T14:29:56 < kakimir> not 2016-03-26T14:32:21 < kakimir> interface some old board from autumn 2016-03-26T14:32:31 < kakimir> need to test it 2016-03-26T14:33:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.152] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T14:33:40 < kakimir> fall 2016-03-26T14:40:32 < kakimir> now I look at diesel powered planes 2016-03-26T14:45:32 < kakimir> tell mno no 2016-03-26T14:51:29 -!- sooda [sooda@nac2.kyla.fi] has quit [Quit: muutto] 2016-03-26T14:51:47 < kakimir> was it that cortex addresses memory by byte? 2016-03-26T14:52:30 < kakimir> increment pointer and your variable moves by byte? 2016-03-26T14:54:45 < kakimir> sotrry 2016-03-26T14:54:49 < kakimir> project is halted atm 2016-03-26T14:56:34 < dongs> hmm 2016-03-26T14:56:45 < dongs> any right angle SMD switch thats similar to that 5mm through-hole part 2016-03-26T14:57:02 < dongs> http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/2035717725/-Right-Angle-Tactile-Push-Button-Switches-6x6x9-5mm.jpg_350x350.jpg 2016-03-26T14:57:12 < dongs> that name looks like it said "shitstain" and it got cut off 2016-03-26T14:57:54 < kakimir> cumstain 2016-03-26T14:57:55 < dongs> well it certainly exists 2016-03-26T14:58:00 < dongs> my only concern is how durable that shit is 2016-03-26T14:58:19 < dongs> http://www.apem.com/tactile-switches-v9-p-106.html?!do=ZG89dGh1bWJuYWlsZXIuZ2V0JnNyYz1pbWFnZXMlMkZhcGVtJTJGcHJvZHVjdHMlMkZTZWN0aW9uX0MtRDE2Mi5qcGcmdmVyc2lvbj1wcm9kdWN0cy5saWdodA== 2016-03-26T14:59:14 < dongs> the top one looks like you can maybe bend it over the pcb edge 2016-03-26T14:59:19 < dongs> er front one 2016-03-26T15:00:08 < dongs> https://www.e-switch.com/system/asset/product_line/image/208/small_TL3360-series.jpg 2016-03-26T15:00:39 < dongs> https://www.e-switch.com/product-catalog/tact/product-lines/tl3360-series-right-angle-smt-tact-switch#.VvaH9Kd96DM 2016-03-26T15:00:42 < dongs> but yeah i duno 2016-03-26T15:00:50 < dongs> that looks like it can totally get knocked off the board e-z 2016-03-26T15:02:21 < dongs> https://www.e-switch.com/product-catalog/tact/product-lines/tl4105-series-right-angle-ultra-miniature-tact-switch#.VvaIW6d96DM 2016-03-26T15:02:24 < dongs> thats kinda cute 2016-03-26T15:02:38 < dongs> overhang from the pcb edge 2016-03-26T15:04:11 < kakimir> I wonder if I can extern const 2016-03-26T15:04:31 < kakimir> for _sdata and _estack 2016-03-26T15:04:38 < dongs> wut. 2016-03-26T15:04:41 < dongs> why so assburger 2016-03-26T15:04:59 < dongs> why does your ffirmware even need to know this ever 2016-03-26T15:05:27 < kakimir> because there be dividing 2016-03-26T15:05:48 < kakimir> and I want to compiler optimize those calculations out 2016-03-26T15:05:59 < kakimir> because constant values 2016-03-26T15:06:23 < Thorn> the compiler can't see externs at compile time 2016-03-26T15:06:45 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-26T15:06:47 < kakimir> but does it see consts? 2016-03-26T15:06:58 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-26T15:07:55 < Thorn> if they're defined in the same compilation unit 2016-03-26T15:08:05 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-26T15:08:57 < kakimir> the question is if this is legit: extern const uint32_t *_sdata;//Start of data section - RAM supposedly begins here. 2016-03-26T15:09:26 < Thorn> yes it is. this is basically what startup code does 2016-03-26T15:09:38 < Thorn> but don't count on any compile time optimization 2016-03-26T15:12:08 < dongs> what's everyone's favorite right angle smt chinaswitch 2016-03-26T15:13:28 < kakimir> pushbutton? 2016-03-26T15:13:44 < dongs> yeah. tactile/pushbutton. 2016-03-26T15:18:43 < dongs> http://cfnewsads.thomasnet.com/images/medium/501/501952.jpg 2016-03-26T15:18:44 < dongs> hmmm 2016-03-26T15:18:47 < dongs> thats less awful 2016-03-26T15:18:55 < dongs> it has a pcb through hole thing I can fix via paste-in-pad 2016-03-26T15:19:07 < dongs> and i dont need to run the shit through wave reflow 2016-03-26T15:20:26 < Fleck> dooooh, PRL is write only reg... 2016-03-26T15:20:37 < Fleck> problem solved... :D 2016-03-26T15:20:56 < Thorn> these buttons look like they will have enough leverage to rip the pads off the pcb tbh 2016-03-26T15:21:07 < dongs> thorn, sure, but 2016-03-26T15:21:18 < dongs> i am now using the generic 5mm all-through-hole thing 2016-03-26T15:21:20 < dongs> and its a pain in teh ass 2016-03-26T15:21:27 < dongs> not to mention profile problem for pcb because the shit sticks out from bottom 2016-03-26T15:21:35 < kakimir> https://www.e-switch.com/system/asset/product_line/image/163/medium_TL3330-series.jpg I would use such 2016-03-26T15:21:40 < Sync> cut the legs flush 2016-03-26T15:21:56 < dongs> http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/2035717725/-Right-Angle-Tactile-Push-Button-Switches-6x6x9-5mm.jpg_350x350.jpg the shitstain url 2016-03-26T15:22:03 < dongs> sync, im not fucking doung that for 100s of boards 2016-03-26T15:22:14 < Sync> pfft 2016-03-26T15:25:09 < kakimir> dongs: I think I have seen those with longer struts 2016-03-26T15:25:41 < kakimir> and 4support legs 2016-03-26T15:25:51 < dongs> the shitstain? 2016-03-26T15:26:02 < dongs> eyah mine is not exactly that 2016-03-26T15:26:03 < dongs> looking for real pic 2016-03-26T15:26:15 < dongs> http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1sAHAJFXXXXabXFXXq6xXFXXXc/20-x-Right-Angle-Momentary-Tact-Tactile-Push-Button-Switch-Non-Lock-6x6x8-5mm.jpg 2016-03-26T15:26:18 < dongs> mine is kinda like this 2016-03-26T15:26:58 < kakimir> what kind of siet are you buildin 2016-03-26T15:27:28 < dongs> that was OK when I was hand soldering 50 boards a month 2016-03-26T15:27:41 < dongs> but ive since then made > 2000 and its kinda time to move to something proepr 2016-03-26T15:28:14 < Sync> the pure smd ones are quite sturdy if you via stich the pads 2016-03-26T15:28:45 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T15:29:36 < dongs> sync, but they dont look very common 2016-03-26T15:29:42 < dongs> that last shit I linked might be more china-available 2016-03-26T15:29:48 < Tectu> dongs, diptrace 3.0 was released 2016-03-26T15:29:50 < dongs> http://cfnewsads.thomasnet.com/images/medium/501/501952.jpg this shit 2016-03-26T15:29:52 < dongs> Tectu: no shit 2016-03-26T15:29:54 < dongs> checking. 2016-03-26T15:30:08 < Sync> ~dicktrace 2016-03-26T15:30:11 < Sync> ftfy 2016-03-26T15:30:19 < Tectu> changelog isn't that big. Mainly differential pair crap. But at least the development keeps going which was questionable in the past 2016-03-26T15:31:49 < Thorn> I had a rotary encoder sheared off a pcb. only the bottom part with TH pins remained 2016-03-26T15:32:27 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T15:34:08 < dongs> typical faggot musicians 2016-03-26T15:34:22 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T15:34:50 < dongs> wonder if my dicktrace license is OK for 3.0 2016-03-26T15:35:09 < dongs> correct 2016-03-26T15:35:12 < dongs> full version, too 2016-03-26T15:35:17 < dongs> it was around 600-ish 2016-03-26T15:35:38 < dongs> a well worthile investment as the first board I made in that paid off in like a week 2016-03-26T15:35:41 < dongs> that was before i was using altium 2016-03-26T15:37:47 < dongs> ok yeah 2016-03-26T15:37:50 < dongs> end of my license with 3.0 as wel. 2016-03-26T15:38:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-26T15:41:30 < dongs> well they added some hotkey shit but too little, too late 2016-03-26T15:43:25 < dongs> certianly 2016-03-26T15:50:11 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T16:00:58 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-26T16:00:58 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T16:01:49 < PeterM> eagle is so aids 2016-03-26T16:02:10 < PeterM> want to delete a trace or unroute? HULK SMASH TOOL 2016-03-26T16:06:41 < dongs> PeterM: any thoughts on RA tactile swithc? 2016-03-26T16:06:48 < ReadError> http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/2015/201510/heditor/201510081102433838.jpg 2016-03-26T16:07:01 < ReadError> http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/2015/201510/heditor/201510081102489244.jpg 2016-03-26T16:07:31 < dongs> wat is this trash, chink crapplewatch clone? 2016-03-26T16:07:39 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_247003.html 2016-03-26T16:07:41 < ReadError> its a phone 2016-03-26T16:07:43 < ReadError> and a watch 2016-03-26T16:07:53 < dongs> the origina lis so fucking awdful why care about cloningig it 2016-03-26T16:07:53 < kakimir> china 2016-03-26T16:08:14 < ReadError> you can put a simcard in it 2016-03-26T16:08:22 < ReadError> and call people with your watch 2016-03-26T16:08:35 < dongs> yea neptune pine did that 3 yearsd ago on dickstarter 2016-03-26T16:08:38 < dongs> and got almost $1lmil 2016-03-26T16:08:40 < dongs> delivered garbage 2016-03-26T16:09:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T16:09:46 < dongs> l;ol it even has an awful camera 2016-03-26T16:09:54 < dongs> shit thats old too last year 2016-03-26T16:09:58 < dongs> maybe i should get some for spawn 2016-03-26T16:10:16 < dongs> battery life is liek 5 hours right 2016-03-26T16:10:36 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_337582.html 2016-03-26T16:10:44 < ReadError> they make them for kids 2016-03-26T16:10:51 < dongs> thats $50 more bro 2016-03-26T16:11:16 < dongs> just cuz it has a fucking gps tracker, i dont care if the fuckers are lost really 2016-03-26T16:11:41 < kakimir> how many battery life that watch have? 2016-03-26T16:13:14 < ReadError> such english 2016-03-26T16:13:56 < dongs> you just put the cable to left side and now its charging 2016-03-26T16:14:11 < PeterM> dongs nah sorry 2016-03-26T16:14:50 < dongs> god damn the zoom is so awful 2016-03-26T16:14:53 < dongs> you can see it chug 2016-03-26T16:15:31 < Steffanx> Rage o'clock. 2016-03-26T16:16:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T16:17:30 < ReadError> lol that gearbest girl 2016-03-26T16:17:39 < ReadError> english 2016-03-26T16:17:58 < dongs> ya 2016-03-26T16:18:00 < dongs> that first video 2016-03-26T16:18:43 < ReadError> the 2nd one on the page w/ the girl as the thumbnail 2016-03-26T16:18:56 < ReadError> painful 2016-03-26T16:19:23 < dongs> o yea second 2016-03-26T16:19:27 < dongs> didnt see the 1st one thought it was just static pic 2016-03-26T16:19:37 < dongs> fucking gsm only 2016-03-26T16:19:37 < dongs> aids 2016-03-26T16:19:40 < dongs> japs have no gsm networks 2016-03-26T16:19:41 < kakimir> I think thay made just enought good clocks after millenia 2016-03-26T16:19:49 < kakimir> and with inexpensive price 2016-03-26T16:21:44 < ReadError> wat 2016-03-26T16:21:52 < dongs> http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_141989.html oh not bad 2016-03-26T16:21:56 < dongs> they have some wcdma stuff 2016-03-26T16:22:01 < dongs> thats pretty pro 2016-03-26T16:22:40 < kakimir> I fucking hate gps receivers they use in phones and shiet 2016-03-26T16:22:46 < kakimir> absolute garbage 2016-03-26T16:22:55 < kakimir> no locking without hsdpa 2016-03-26T16:23:13 < kakimir> my current phone gps doesn't work at all 2016-03-26T16:23:35 < BrainDamage> wut 2016-03-26T16:23:40 < dongs> wat 2016-03-26T16:23:58 < Steffanx> Mine doesnt work very well eithe, but .. chinaphone 2016-03-26T16:24:14 < kakimir> and hey.. I had one cheap chinaphone 2016-03-26T16:24:18 < BrainDamage> do you realize that a gps lock without a location seed can take up to 10 min? 2016-03-26T16:24:26 < dongs> ^ 2016-03-26T16:24:33 < dongs> probly more, and you better hope you're in the clear sky 2016-03-26T16:25:15 < kakimir> BrainDamage: I have such receiver that locks in like... 30seconds 2016-03-26T16:25:26 < kakimir> and has 30cm initial accuracy 2016-03-26T16:25:30 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_230472.html 2016-03-26T16:25:34 < ReadError> these are fun 2016-03-26T16:25:59 < BrainDamage> kakimir: you need an initial seed to have fast lock 2016-03-26T16:26:10 < kakimir> those phone gps:es work in cities 2016-03-26T16:26:12 < BrainDamage> the better the initial seed accuracy, the faster the lock 2016-03-26T16:26:25 < BrainDamage> which is why agps is thing 2016-03-26T16:26:48 < kakimir> but in forrest when you are fucked you don't get anything out of your phone 2016-03-26T16:26:50 < zyp> kakimir, a full broadcast of the almanac/ephemeris takes longer than 30 seconds 2016-03-26T16:27:09 < ReadError> kakimir if you had a lock before the forrest 2016-03-26T16:27:13 < kakimir> zyp: hmm... well it feels atleast like 30secs 2016-03-26T16:27:15 < ReadError> you are 100% fine 2016-03-26T16:27:19 < zyp> so a dumb gps simply can't get a lock in 30 secs without any cached data 2016-03-26T16:27:49 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T16:28:07 < kakimir> because poor and have no real maps 2016-03-26T16:28:31 < mitrax> superbia: gay dogging 2016-03-26T16:29:16 < mitrax> never heard the term dogging? :) 2016-03-26T16:29:23 < ReadError> the gps in my nexus7 is pretty legit 2016-03-26T16:29:31 < ReadError> get a lock indoors very accurate 2016-03-26T16:29:48 < Steffanx> its cheating using wifi stuff? :P 2016-03-26T16:29:52 < kakimir> ReadError: turn data off 2016-03-26T16:30:02 < ReadError> that will only help for the initial 2016-03-26T16:30:09 < ReadError> but after a while shit has 13 sats 2016-03-26T16:31:17 < kakimir> ReadError: where you live and is it a real house? 2016-03-26T16:31:38 < ReadError> .............. 2016-03-26T16:31:59 < kakimir> next to window of course? 2016-03-26T16:32:12 < kakimir> maybe placed right at the window? 2016-03-26T16:32:32 < mitrax> superbia: http://www.swinger-nation.co.uk/dogging/ 2016-03-26T16:32:34 < Steffanx> your house is made of wood, yankeestyle ReadError? :) 2016-03-26T16:33:13 < kakimir> me brothers new phone doesn't require to be next to window but just for locking and then he has signal even all inside the house 2016-03-26T16:33:20 < Steffanx> "The term 'dogging' originated in the early Seventies to describe men who spied on couples having sex outdoors." .. all you need to know superbia 2016-03-26T16:33:22 < kakimir> or atleast some signal 2016-03-26T16:34:31 < mitrax> http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/local-news/villagers-shocked-gay-dogging-spot-6957533 ahahah 2016-03-26T16:34:55 < kakimir> but I haven't used samsuck that would have any good gps 2016-03-26T16:35:12 < kakimir> last samsuck was totally unnecessary buy 2016-03-26T16:35:23 < kakimir> robbed 2016-03-26T16:35:36 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/5dNxzzuMTB8?t=19m46s 2016-03-26T16:35:43 < kakimir> for 2010 legacy gear 2016-03-26T16:36:07 < Steffanx> mitrax, you browse the dark web too? 2016-03-26T16:36:49 < mitrax> Steffanx: nope, too afraid of what i'd see there 2016-03-26T16:37:21 < Steffanx> at least some sanity in you :D 2016-03-26T16:37:53 < mitrax> eheh 2016-03-26T16:39:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-26T16:43:33 < kakimir> I need to pick some statistically most unlikely 16bit value to return in case of illegal address request 2016-03-26T16:43:44 < dongs> .. yea 2016-03-26T16:43:49 < kakimir> so receiving program can probe error counter 2016-03-26T16:44:27 < kakimir> but not too often without reason to 2016-03-26T16:44:38 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Skyworks-Solutions-Inc/AAT3693IDH-AA-T1/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsfD%252bbMpEGFJc2vj4mj6ovHDzYbEQhbrkw%3d 2016-03-26T16:44:44 < ReadError> these little fuckers are cheap 2016-03-26T16:44:58 < ReadError> 44cent lipo charger 2016-03-26T16:45:09 < kakimir> maybe I just return 0101010101010101010.. or so? 2016-03-26T16:45:34 < PeterM> ReadError, skyworks are 10/10 vendor 2016-03-26T16:46:08 < PeterM> iirc they have cheapest swithcing lipo charger 2016-03-26T16:46:10 < ReadError> idk ive used a few of their parts 2016-03-26T16:46:17 < ReadError> not had issues 2016-03-26T16:46:19 < PeterM> even chepaer than china clones 2016-03-26T16:46:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T16:46:28 < ReadError> but 44 cents is nuts 2016-03-26T16:46:34 < ReadError> at 1qty 2016-03-26T16:46:36 < PeterM> no shit, thety are 10/10 vendor, why would oyu ahve problems. 2016-03-26T16:47:31 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg filmed in a skyworks fab iirc 2016-03-26T16:47:49 < ReadError> This video contains content from Zeitgeist Management. It is not available in your country. 2016-03-26T16:47:51 < ReadError> lol wtf 2016-03-26T16:48:05 < PeterM> kek 2016-03-26T16:48:20 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-26T16:48:31 < dongs> owned 2016-03-26T16:48:32 < dongs> i can watch it 2016-03-26T16:49:03 < ReadError> Zeitgeist Management is a USA company? 2016-03-26T16:49:23 < PeterM> you can see SKYWORKS written on the back of the bunny suits 2016-03-26T16:49:58 < kakimir> I think I just watched 7minutes of intersil advert with that link 2016-03-26T16:50:01 < dongs> https://youtu.be/0wrsZog8qXg?t=188 part# covered up 2016-03-26T16:50:38 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-26T16:50:46 < kakimir> you cant know it's advert when there is dude in lab speaking about their shiet 2016-03-26T16:52:02 < dongs> o yea 2016-03-26T16:52:05 < dongs> can see the logo 2016-03-26T16:52:08 < PeterM> kakimir, have you played video games before? 2016-03-26T16:52:10 < dongs> https://youtu.be/0wrsZog8qXg?t=230 2016-03-26T16:52:36 < PeterM> yerp 2016-03-26T16:53:11 < Steffanx> dongs did you stop browsing ks? Im no longer up to date with all projects because you no longer seem to browse it 2016-03-26T16:53:44 < dongs> Steffanx: havent seen anything truly dumb recently, i do check it sometimes 2016-03-26T16:53:58 < Steffanx> Ach so 2016-03-26T16:54:20 < kakimir> PeterM: video games? 2016-03-26T16:54:21 < kakimir> sure 2016-03-26T16:54:31 < PeterM> have you tried CS:GO AWAY 2016-03-26T16:54:35 < Steffanx> meh "The site is temporarily unavailable. Please contact your local branch for immediate assistance..." .. mouser is broken 2016-03-26T16:55:15 < mitrax> yeah it broke here too 2016-03-26T16:58:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-26T16:59:57 < englishman> heh they blurred some out but not all 2016-03-26T17:00:32 < englishman> nice goldwire machine 2016-03-26T17:00:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.165] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T17:01:11 < dongs> that video rez is awful 2016-03-26T17:01:17 < dongs> is this some fucking rap music video? 2016-03-26T17:01:18 < englishman> what do you want its from like 1999 2016-03-26T17:01:20 < dongs> i had volume turned down 2016-03-26T17:01:23 < kakimir> PeterM: I have not heard of such 2016-03-26T17:07:27 < Steffanx> is that even a real thing PeterM? CS:GO AWAY? 2016-03-26T17:08:56 < PeterM> no it isn't 2016-03-26T17:09:06 < PeterM> it was a joke that went over both of your heads 2016-03-26T17:09:10 < dongs> lol 2016-03-26T17:09:33 < kakimir> he tries to enter suggestion 2016-03-26T17:12:35 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T17:15:20 < Steffanx> Im sorry, i never played CS PeterM :P 2016-03-26T17:16:15 < ReadError> http://www.jax.com/product-fleet-material/jet-fire-starting-ether 2016-03-26T17:16:20 < ReadError> the good stuff (tm) 2016-03-26T17:17:37 < Steffanx> America's Finest Industrial Lubricants .. also that one special industrie? 2016-03-26T17:17:38 < Steffanx> y 2016-03-26T17:23:09 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T17:26:19 < Steffanx> Anyway, you have real use for that ReadError? 2016-03-26T17:26:37 < Steffanx> or just Pyromania? 2016-03-26T17:26:44 < ReadError> oh i just need the ether 2016-03-26T17:26:51 < ReadError> and its the cheapest way to source it 2016-03-26T17:28:41 < PeterM> really? 2016-03-26T17:29:00 < dongs> got bored of getting high off weed? 2016-03-26T17:29:03 < dongs> wanna try something harder/ 2016-03-26T17:29:12 < Steffanx> Meth. 2016-03-26T17:30:42 < Steffanx> oh oops, i thought you were up to something new 2016-03-26T17:30:56 < dongs> so is mouser dead lol 2016-03-26T17:31:03 < dongs> site doesnt evne open now 2016-03-26T17:31:07 < dongs> who packeted them 2016-03-26T17:31:17 < dongs> www.mouser.com/ds works tho 2016-03-26T17:31:46 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T17:32:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T17:33:35 < dongs> oh, i got a teh site is temporarily unavaivble thing 2016-03-26T17:33:37 < dongs> must be really ded 2016-03-26T17:33:42 < ReadError> PeterM yes, 500mL of diethyl ether is like 55$ 2016-03-26T17:38:38 < PeterM> huh 2016-03-26T17:38:45 < PeterM> thats pretty pricey 2016-03-26T17:38:49 < dongs> 2-4 channel DFN (small package) cc led driver go 2016-03-26T17:39:30 < dongs> .. 350mA / channel 2016-03-26T17:39:34 < dongs> this guy is dreaming 2016-03-26T17:40:28 < PeterM> linear no way 2016-03-26T17:46:29 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/diodes-incorporated/AL5801W6-7/AL5801W6-7DITR-ND/3481117 2016-03-26T17:46:33 < dongs> apparently there's some linear trash by diodez 2016-03-26T17:48:05 < dongs> anyway asshole isnt even telling me what the fuck hes trying to do so i dont really care 2016-03-26T17:48:39 < kakimir> are you freelancing again dongs ? 2016-03-26T17:51:41 < dongs> no its my asshole ledpal guy 2016-03-26T17:58:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-26T17:59:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:01:39 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:03:25 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-26T18:03:44 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-26T18:03:49 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:04:27 -!- Tectu_ is now known as Tectu 2016-03-26T18:08:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-26T18:21:07 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-26T18:23:06 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:25:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-26T18:25:46 -!- Tectu__ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:26:07 -!- Tectu__ is now known as Tectu 2016-03-26T18:26:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:27:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:28:26 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-26T18:29:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.119] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:29:55 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-26T18:33:22 < kakimir> is there nice ways to rise some runtime errors in mcu? 2016-03-26T18:33:26 < kakimir> raise 2016-03-26T18:33:34 < kakimir> or just while loop it 2016-03-26T18:33:46 < kakimir> catch it there 2016-03-26T18:34:12 < PaulFertser> Or software breakpoint 2016-03-26T18:35:28 < dongs> catch it while you can 2016-03-26T18:36:04 < Laurenceb_> maybe software triggered interrupt 2016-03-26T18:36:04 < Lux> dongs: that driver seems pretty trashy 2016-03-26T18:36:10 < Laurenceb_> _triggered_ 2016-03-26T18:36:16 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2GcdpJiNGfKVzJSU3BLNDkwQjA&usp=sharing I just wonder if there is a way to evaluate =< for those values in last one in build time 2016-03-26T18:36:24 < kakimir> those are not constants 2016-03-26T18:36:25 < Lux> the current will probably drift a lot when it gets hot 2016-03-26T18:36:29 < dongs> lux, the 17c diodes.com? 2016-03-26T18:36:35 < Lux> yep 2016-03-26T18:36:41 < dongs> well, no doubt 2016-03-26T18:36:49 < dongs> but its 17c 2016-03-26T18:37:03 < Laurenceb_> how do i paste 2016-03-26T18:37:09 < Laurenceb_> kakimir^ 2016-03-26T18:37:29 < Lux> just yesterday i helped a friend debug a similar non trashy driver 2016-03-26T18:37:42 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: I do not know 2016-03-26T18:37:45 < dongs> what was it 2016-03-26T18:37:57 < Lux> problem was it had a linear reg built in that dissapated far too much power 2016-03-26T18:38:05 < dongs> ah. 2016-03-26T18:38:08 < Lux> like 10mA at 31V drop 2016-03-26T18:38:10 < Lux> onsemi 2016-03-26T18:38:27 < Lux> don't know the part number anymore 2016-03-26T18:38:49 < Laurenceb_> lul http://8ch.net/n/res/351995.html 2016-03-26T18:40:12 < dongs> is it time for trollenceb shitty links? 2016-03-26T18:40:38 < PeterM> ahh its jsut a constant current sink, in htat case, feed the LED wiht only JUST past its VF and dissipation shouldnt actually be the bad 2016-03-26T18:41:17 < Laurenceb_> yes it is time 2016-03-26T18:41:53 < ReadError> omg 2016-03-26T18:41:55 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ 2016-03-26T18:41:59 < ReadError> you have to check out this show 2016-03-26T18:42:07 < dongs> PeterM: yeah 2016-03-26T18:42:10 < ReadError> The.Internet.Ruined.My.Life.S01E01.HDTV.x264-W4F 2016-03-26T18:42:16 < Laurenceb_> ... 2016-03-26T18:42:24 < mitrax> ReadError: yeah? 2016-03-26T18:42:33 < ReadError> they had some chick from gamergate 2016-03-26T18:42:40 < ReadError> then some other asian 2016-03-26T18:42:53 < ReadError> some fgt from the UK 2016-03-26T18:42:58 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/T0e5ne0.jpg 2016-03-26T18:42:59 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-03-26T18:43:10 * mitrax grabs it 2016-03-26T18:43:26 < ReadError> its mostly about people getting trolled 2016-03-26T18:43:32 < ReadError> and taking it too serious 2016-03-26T18:43:39 < PeterM> ReadError, why isn't that show "I'm a fuckign idiot and its my own damn fault" 2016-03-26T18:43:44 < ReadError> like running away from their houses 2016-03-26T18:43:45 < ReadError> to hide 2016-03-26T18:43:58 < Laurenceb_> lul wasn't that faked? 2016-03-26T18:44:08 < ReadError> faked? 2016-03-26T18:44:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:44:51 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/NsbCv1g.jpg 2016-03-26T18:44:58 < Laurenceb_> massive image warning 2016-03-26T18:45:12 < ReadError> oh 2016-03-26T18:45:13 < Laurenceb_> also its a tarp 2016-03-26T18:45:17 < ReadError> brianna wu? 2016-03-26T18:45:20 < ReadError> or something? 2016-03-26T18:45:28 < ReadError> ya they was on this show 2016-03-26T18:45:35 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-26T18:45:42 < dongs> brian wu hasn't left his house in years , whooooooooo cares 2016-03-26T18:45:50 < Sync> wat is dat 2016-03-26T18:46:01 < Laurenceb_> change sex to female 2016-03-26T18:46:10 < Laurenceb_> claim discrimination 2016-03-26T18:46:11 < Laurenceb_> ??? 2016-03-26T18:46:13 < Laurenceb_> profit 2016-03-26T18:46:41 < kakimir> oh gamergate 2016-03-26T18:46:44 < PeterM> change sex check box on facebook to female - fixt 2016-03-26T18:47:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-26T18:47:31 < Laurenceb_> sometimes "people"/neckbeards think I'm a grrrl on irc 2016-03-26T18:47:35 < Laurenceb_> epic lulz result 2016-03-26T18:47:55 < mitrax> is there a single chick in here? 2016-03-26T18:47:59 < Laurenceb_> nope 2016-03-26T18:48:01 < PeterM> yes 2016-03-26T18:48:15 < ReadError> LeelooMinai ? 2016-03-26T18:48:16 < Laurenceb_> I went on #linux once and someone started pming me dick shots 2016-03-26T18:48:22 < mitrax> everytime i came a cross a "female" programmer on irc it turned out to be a tranny 2016-03-26T18:48:29 < Laurenceb_> Leeloo is a tarp 2016-03-26T18:48:34 < Sync> wtf Laurenceb_ 2016-03-26T18:48:35 < PeterM> also Laurenceb_ you're clearly a wizard so i'd be jelly too 2016-03-26T18:48:35 < Sync> wtf. 2016-03-26T18:48:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T18:48:52 < Laurenceb_> they thought I was a grrl cuz they were french 2016-03-26T18:48:56 < kakimir> wizards are scary 2016-03-26T18:49:23 < PeterM> dongs is clearly 12 year old gril 2016-03-26T18:49:45 < dongs> shhh 2016-03-26T18:49:49 < dongs> dont let the secret out 2016-03-26T18:50:04 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-26T18:50:05 < Laurenceb_> LeelooMinai blog http://mayaposch.blogspot.co.uk/ 2016-03-26T18:50:25 < PeterM> sorry dingle 2016-03-26T18:50:25 < Laurenceb_> an overdose of oestrogen 2016-03-26T18:50:30 < Laurenceb_> stopped reading there 2016-03-26T18:50:32 < LeelooMinai> Laurenceb_: That's hackitten actually:) 2016-03-26T18:50:49 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-03-26T18:50:57 < PeterM> #rekt 2016-03-26T18:51:03 < Laurenceb_> lul sorry 2016-03-26T18:51:05 < dongs> haha hackkitten 2016-03-26T18:51:10 < dongs> fuckien dont remind me 2016-03-26T18:51:24 < dongs> he still has all the cocks in ##electronics in his hands 2016-03-26T18:52:06 < BrainDamage> i raged out of ##electronics after beaky got a like 1 month troll streak 2016-03-26T18:52:08 < PeterM> and the only cock dongs has in his hand is his own :( 2016-03-26T18:52:52 < Laurenceb_> nothing useful ever happens in #electronics 2016-03-26T18:52:56 < dongs> of course not 2016-03-26T18:52:59 < dongs> they're all dumb 2016-03-26T18:53:10 < dongs> < patrickk92_> I have a probook 4525s and a dv6-3091eo. The probook is dead from chipset. The dv6 has its power jack broken. Can i get the power jack from the probook and use it on the dv6 ? 2016-03-26T18:53:13 < PeterM> #electronics is a cesspool 2016-03-26T18:53:17 < dongs> like some dumb consumer electronics question 2016-03-26T18:53:24 < kakimir> are you okay with your gender & sexuality Laurenceb_ ? 2016-03-26T18:53:56 < Laurenceb_> kakimir is irc psychiatrist? 2016-03-26T18:54:05 < PeterM> i went into #electronics for all of like 5 mins and saw someone trying to convince someone that a lm7805 was a 36v regulator because it could take 36v o nthe input 2016-03-26T18:54:14 < PeterM> i was like ... /quit 2016-03-26T18:54:14 < kakimir> trigger__D 2016-03-26T18:54:41 < ReadError> even worse 2016-03-26T18:54:45 < PeterM> surely not trigger 8===D 2016-03-26T18:54:45 < ReadError> #arduino 2016-03-26T18:55:02 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: contact your doc and start growing boob 2016-03-26T18:55:07 < PeterM> ReadError, thats to be exoected though 2016-03-26T18:55:14 < PeterM> expected even 2016-03-26T18:55:17 < Laurenceb_> O_o no thanks 2016-03-26T18:55:29 < ReadError> kakimir has anyone ever told you that you are a very strange dude? 2016-03-26T18:55:48 < dongs> PeterM: they still put 7805 on arduinos 2016-03-26T18:55:52 < PeterM> ReadError, probably every day 2016-03-26T18:56:07 < dongs> worse: they still have mismatched headers on arduinos 2016-03-26T18:56:11 < PeterM> dongs surely not, i thought thye went pro zango lm1117 2016-03-26T18:56:28 < dongs> 1117 is only 800mA 2016-03-26T18:56:35 < dongs> you need 1A for your stack-o-shields 2016-03-26T18:56:40 < PeterM> kek 2016-03-26T18:57:02 < kakimir> It's good to build personality 2016-03-26T18:59:12 < mitrax> what a load of bullshit 2016-03-26T18:59:27 < mitrax> i'm watching the suey park segment 2016-03-26T18:59:35 < ReadError> ah ya 2016-03-26T18:59:36 < ReadError> lo 2016-03-26T18:59:58 < ReadError> she done fucked up 2016-03-26T19:00:39 < mitrax> attention seeking retard 2016-03-26T19:00:42 < mitrax> "after that i did safe housing which is when you keep changing your location so people can't rack your whereabouts" 2016-03-26T19:01:09 < ReadError> yea i wasnt sure what that was 2016-03-26T19:01:14 < ReadError> she made it sound like a program 2016-03-26T19:01:16 < ReadError> or website 2016-03-26T19:01:26 < rewolff1> PeterM: check out: http://nl.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/vnn1nv04tr-e/n-ch-power-mosfet-omnifet-ii-40v/dp/1857789?aa=true&selectedCategoryId=&categoryId=700000043507 2016-03-26T19:01:26 < rewolff1> and then look at the continuous drain current..... 2016-03-26T19:01:43 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/c2kty7K.jpg 2016-03-26T19:02:17 < mitrax> ReadError: if all of that were true you'd think at that point she would stop exposing herself... but no, she goes to a tv show to whine 2016-03-26T19:02:27 < ReadError> ya 2016-03-26T19:02:30 < ReadError> she pissed me off 2016-03-26T19:02:42 < ReadError> attention seeking retard for sure 2016-03-26T19:02:51 < PeterM> rewolff1, clearly a type 2016-03-26T19:02:58 < PeterM> typo* 2016-03-26T19:03:23 < rewolff1> Typo? Nah! They insisit it is correct when I hit "report an error". 2016-03-26T19:03:40 < PeterM> well, they aren't lying 2016-03-26T19:03:51 < PeterM> it probably can do 30uA constant no problem 2016-03-26T19:03:57 < rewolff1> It says "max 30uA" somehwere in the datasheet. 2016-03-26T19:04:23 < mitrax> the gamergate thing is not in episode 1 2016-03-26T19:04:26 < rewolff1> (when specifying current at VGSth or something like that). 2016-03-26T19:04:54 < ReadError> i think its in 2 2016-03-26T19:04:54 < PeterM> Zero input voltage 2016-03-26T19:04:55 < PeterM> drain current 2016-03-26T19:05:02 < PeterM> is what is 30ua 2016-03-26T19:05:03 < ReadError> mitrax, did you see the intro 2016-03-26T19:05:11 < ReadError> with the hipster and the typewriter 2016-03-26T19:05:12 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-26T19:05:15 < mitrax> yeah ahahah 2016-03-26T19:05:17 < ReadError> i want to see that segment 2016-03-26T19:06:57 < Lux> what's a good cheap buck converter for 36V to 8V at like 100mA ? 2016-03-26T19:07:23 < dongs> what do you need 8v for 2016-03-26T19:07:27 < PeterM> AOZ1282 2016-03-26T19:07:42 < Lux> led drivers 2016-03-26T19:08:14 < Lux> http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/NCL30160-D.PDF 2016-03-26T19:08:26 < Lux> the internal vreg heats it up too much 2016-03-26T19:09:29 < Lux> PeterM: thanks 2016-03-26T19:09:41 < Lux> hmm right on the edge with 36V 2016-03-26T19:09:59 < dongs> absmax 40 2016-03-26T19:10:49 < ReadError> Lux, those are decent and cheap 2016-03-26T19:10:55 < ReadError> i use them many places 2016-03-26T19:11:31 < dongs> lux how is that gonna solve the problem 2016-03-26T19:11:36 < PeterM> onsemi or alpha and omega? 2016-03-26T19:11:37 < dongs> you still need to feed vin into those? 2016-03-26T19:11:41 < kakimir> are pointers always same size? 2016-03-26T19:11:45 < Lux> dongs: no 2016-03-26T19:11:54 < kakimir> pointer itself 2016-03-26T19:12:00 < Lux> you just feed vin with 8volts 2016-03-26T19:12:06 < kakimir> generally per platform 2016-03-26T19:12:08 < ReadError> PeterM, A&O 2016-03-26T19:12:13 < PeterM> ahh yeah 2016-03-26T19:12:17 < PeterM> they're super cheap 2016-03-26T19:13:23 < PeterM> and if you're running like <26v pin compatible with like AOZ1280, which is 1.5mhz 2016-03-26T19:14:47 < dongs> what is decent and cheap 2016-03-26T19:14:55 < dongs> the only onsemi link i see is some shitty led driver 2016-03-26T19:15:50 < dongs> never mind 2016-03-26T19:15:54 < dongs> too stoned 2016-03-26T19:17:19 < PeterM> yeah, it's bear 4:20 am here... 2016-03-26T19:17:22 < PeterM> near even 2016-03-26T19:17:33 < PeterM> should sleep soonish 2016-03-26T19:18:24 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/gOoeoVX 2016-03-26T19:18:53 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/uZ1jZhx 2016-03-26T19:21:48 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, 1) not funny, 2) cite your sources, 3) not funny 2016-03-26T19:22:09 < Laurenceb_> I lolled 2016-03-26T19:26:52 < kakimir> he is just being brittish 2016-03-26T19:27:20 < kakimir> muslims, feminism and hitler get him going 2016-03-26T19:28:33 < BrainDamage> more like shitposting 2016-03-26T19:28:54 < BrainDamage> the topic is not important, it can be emdrive, or whatever bullshit 4chan cooks up 2016-03-26T19:29:16 < Laurenceb_> I'm in the mood for shitposting 2016-03-26T19:30:15 < mitrax> it's a variation of the Tourette syndrom 2016-03-26T19:30:22 < mitrax> but with shitty links 2016-03-26T19:32:03 < Laurenceb_> source https://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins 2016-03-26T19:34:35 < kakimir> could it be humanoids? 2016-03-26T19:35:26 < Laurenceb_> ancient aliens 2016-03-26T19:37:21 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-26T20:10:47 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T20:12:34 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T20:15:55 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-26T20:16:11 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T20:24:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T20:36:52 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T21:02:25 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-26T21:05:04 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T21:56:04 < ohsix> hahah fred armisen is krang 2016-03-26T21:58:30 < Steffanx> Whoa, it took me some googling to make sense of that. 2016-03-26T21:59:22 < Steffanx> ( i never enjoyed ninja turtles as a kid ) 2016-03-26T22:00:00 < ohsix> me neither, it was alright; i dig fred armisen tho 2016-03-26T22:00:06 < ohsix> the new stuff sux 2016-03-26T22:01:05 < Steffanx> i have no clue who fred armisen is either. I guess he's not well known outside yankeeland very well 2016-03-26T22:01:28 < ohsix> oh, even here i don't think people know; he's a music / comic snl guy 2016-03-26T22:01:35 < ohsix> does portlandia 2016-03-26T22:02:36 < ohsix> bah chrome is going to kill my disks with all this swapping 2016-03-26T22:03:03 < Steffanx> Time to get more ram? 2016-03-26T22:04:43 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T22:04:46 < ohsix> time to get less chrome 2016-03-26T22:05:16 < ohsix> bah all the funny fred armisenwhatevers are on nbc.com/hulu, might as well be a segregated internet for all that i can show people 2016-03-26T22:05:31 < Steffanx> but ram is cheap 2016-03-26T22:06:04 < ohsix> http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4641 2016-03-26T22:06:15 < ohsix> the motherboard to hold even more is not 2016-03-26T22:07:03 < Steffanx> > 32GB ? 2016-03-26T22:08:27 < ohsix> nah but that sounded cooler, it's ddr2 and there's only 4 slots; ddr2 is already expensive and even with the largest modules i can find it's not much more than what i have now 2016-03-26T22:08:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T22:09:01 < ohsix> it's an older computer that unfortunately is still really good at everything :< 2016-03-26T22:09:22 < ohsix> i just have too many things in chrome, even with just a handful chrome isn't very good at things 2016-03-26T22:10:03 < Steffanx> No script, no flash helps a lot most of the time. 2016-03-26T22:10:36 < ohsix> yea i have some stuff 2016-03-26T22:10:48 < ohsix> it's the actual 'chrome' of the browser that's usually messing stuff up, the tabs are fine 2016-03-26T22:11:35 < ohsix> probably need a video card with more memory for maximum betterness 2016-03-26T22:25:34 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-26T22:26:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-26T22:28:50 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T22:29:26 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-226-162.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-26T22:37:20 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-39-4.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T22:49:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-26T22:50:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T22:51:39 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T23:22:57 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-26T23:24:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T23:31:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-26T23:46:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-26T23:48:01 < Rob235> anyone know of a small monochrome lcd ( 1 inch or less) with decent resolution and good refresh rate 2016-03-26T23:48:55 < jadew> Rob235, look for those small OLED displays 2016-03-26T23:49:02 < jadew> they'll probably fit your requirements 2016-03-26T23:49:14 < Rob235> oled won't work 2016-03-26T23:49:32 < jadew> has to be LCD? 2016-03-26T23:50:14 < Rob235> yea I want to shine a light through it that will project onto a wall 2016-03-26T23:50:30 < jadew> ah 2016-03-26T23:51:08 < jadew> no idea then... there are projectors that do that already, you might consider looking into a readily available one 2016-03-26T23:51:09 < Rob235> the idea just popped into my head, just looking into how possible it really is to get what I'm looking for 2016-03-26T23:52:24 < jadew> and you may even contact some of those kickstarters and ask them for what projectors they use, because most of them can project darkness too 2016-03-26T23:52:32 < jadew> 2016-03-26T23:52:54 < Rob235> it has to be really small, I'd be 3d printing (don't have a printer yet) a housing for everything and it would be handheld 2016-03-26T23:53:16 < jadew> Rob235, yeah, I'm pretty sure there are super tiny ones already available 2016-03-26T23:53:26 < jadew> even in HD & color 2016-03-26T23:53:47 < jadew> so you may find a monochrome one easily 2016-03-26T23:54:17 < Rob235> well its good to know it should work 2016-03-26T23:54:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Copywight 2012 Elmer Fudd. All wights wesewved.] 2016-03-26T23:54:49 < Sync> just get a sanyo laz0r projector 2016-03-26T23:55:00 < kakimir> sup power puff girls 2016-03-26T23:55:04 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-26T23:55:43 * jadew is writing code 2016-03-26T23:56:00 < jadew> best kind of writing 2016-03-26T23:57:31 < jadew> I wonder if you could find a job as a code critic at a magazine 2016-03-26T23:58:53 < jadew> Pandora rocks --- Day changed Sun Mar 27 2016 2016-03-27T00:00:05 < kakimir> 90's artist pandora? 2016-03-27T00:00:56 < XTL> Korg Pandora? 2016-03-27T00:01:06 < jadew> kakimir, what do you mean? 2016-03-27T00:02:16 < jadew> kakimir, pandora the music streaming site 2016-03-27T00:03:37 < kakimir> what do I mean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Aco6a9TOE 2016-03-27T00:03:58 < jadew> haha, that sounds so 90's 2016-03-27T00:05:02 < Rob235> I'm thinking about making an air mouse for my htpc and was thinking how to display a user interface, I was between lcd on the device, on screen display on the htpc or projecting a menu on the wall above the tv 2016-03-27T00:05:21 < jadew> better than the emo shit we have to hear these days 2016-03-27T00:06:13 < kakimir> very good 2016-03-27T00:06:34 < kakimir> afraid of your interrogation 2016-03-27T00:06:38 < kakimir> of leds 2016-03-27T00:09:53 < kakimir> is there by the way dummy packages? 2016-03-27T00:10:05 < kakimir> if you need to figure your reflow process 2016-03-27T00:10:24 < kakimir> you could throw some plain packs in 2016-03-27T00:12:18 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-27T00:12:56 < kakimir> is Manncorp your employer crt ? 2016-03-27T00:13:34 < kakimir> you make these machines? 2016-03-27T00:13:38 < kakimir> and these videos? 2016-03-27T00:14:42 < kakimir> nice man 2016-03-27T00:14:50 < kakimir> I need to pick up some drunks> 2016-03-27T00:15:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:51:ee7f:b95c:53d7] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T00:17:45 < jadew> you can't refuse family 2016-03-27T00:28:12 < ohsix> nice, more people here are looking for the jail than the library 2016-03-27T00:28:20 < ohsix> google, you depress me 2016-03-27T00:35:51 < ohsix> heh weird 2016-03-27T00:35:56 < ohsix> subaru vins have turning diameter in them 2016-03-27T00:36:11 < ohsix> probably because the suspension has an adjustment that needs it 2016-03-27T00:36:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-27T00:36:23 < ohsix> no engine size though??????? 2016-03-27T00:37:33 < ohsix> there's a big 2n4033 mounted to the wall of the engine bay for the distributor 2016-03-27T00:38:17 < ohsix> subaru still had single point fuel injection well into the 90s 2016-03-27T00:38:20 < ohsix> witha distributor 2016-03-27T00:39:04 < jadew> where are we with electric car autonomy so far? 2016-03-27T00:39:09 < jadew> 400km? 2016-03-27T00:40:19 < jadew> unless they implement that battery swapping thing all over the world, I don't think a lot of people will go full electric 2016-03-27T00:40:35 < jadew> I wouldn't go outside the city with an electric car 2016-03-27T00:40:52 < jadew> in case of an emergency, you're fucked 2016-03-27T00:42:10 < BrainDamage> battery swapping has some logistic problem, it means you need to start renting batteries rather than just charin 2016-03-27T00:42:34 < Laurenceb_> anyone want to say whats wrong with my Qt codez? 2016-03-27T00:42:36 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/Txk0r1eN 2016-03-27T00:42:43 < BrainDamage> because batteries wear down considerably, and i doubt you'd want to swap your fresh new pack with a worn down one from some random jerk 2016-03-27T00:43:02 < Laurenceb_> its supposed to keep dash patterns consistent as old points are removed on scrolling graphs 2016-03-27T00:43:15 < Laurenceb_> does the basic logic look sane? 2016-03-27T00:43:30 < jadew> BrainDamage, I would assume the swap companies would take care of it and it would be reflected in the price of the swap 2016-03-27T00:43:50 < jadew> but yeah, you wouldn't want to swap your new battery for a used one, that's for sure 2016-03-27T00:44:06 < BrainDamage> in that case it's best if you don't own the pack and just rent it 2016-03-27T00:44:19 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-27T00:44:19 < BrainDamage> or have 2 storage slots, one for temp storage, and one for your on property 2016-03-27T00:44:38 < Sync> BrainDamage: the leasing models are completely shiet 2016-03-27T00:47:42 < Steffanx> oh no, Sync goes kakimir. 2016-03-27T00:47:46 < Steffanx> ( shiet ) 2016-03-27T00:48:36 < ohsix> most car emergencies immobilize them :D electric or not 2016-03-27T00:49:30 < BrainDamage> it's not just emergencies, it's about long distance trips 2016-03-27T00:49:50 < BrainDamage> try to do a trip longer than 2/3 of the autonomy without daily stops 2016-03-27T00:49:58 < ohsix> rent a car for long trips 2016-03-27T00:50:09 < ohsix> the same type of logic has you owning a truck if you only put something in the back twice a year 2016-03-27T00:50:19 < ohsix> or flyyyyy 2016-03-27T00:50:28 < BrainDamage> the logic is more on a grand scale 2016-03-27T00:50:43 < ohsix> (almost all the people i know that own a truck bought it to haul stuff and do it less than once a year) 2016-03-27T00:51:10 < Steffanx> crt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtyF0jux2Q 2016-03-27T00:51:29 < BrainDamage> rather than your own usage 2016-03-27T00:51:29 < BrainDamage> how to convert everything to electric, even if it's not strictly necessary 2016-03-27T00:51:41 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-03-27T00:52:21 < ohsix> why would you pessimize for 'long trips' anyways, when you drive less than 30 miles typically any time you use the car, less than 1% of the time it'll be something else ;D 2016-03-27T00:52:36 < ohsix> (modulo job in urban area that might require a commute) 2016-03-27T00:53:14 < BrainDamage> because there're a whole cathegory of jobs that require long distance mobility compared to commuting routes 2016-03-27T00:53:51 < BrainDamage> so you either allow an exception, or figure out a solution 2016-03-27T00:53:58 < ohsix> then you don't own an electric car 2016-03-27T00:54:04 < ohsix> but everyone else can 2016-03-27T00:54:06 < jadew> even if you take long trips only a couple of times a year 2016-03-27T00:54:15 < jadew> when you do take them, you need a car that can take you there 2016-03-27T00:54:19 < ohsix> if you rent a car you don't pay for maintenance the rest of the year too 2016-03-27T00:54:22 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-27T00:54:33 < ohsix> just bored of seeing people 'argue' about electric cars like that, it doesn't make sense 2016-03-27T00:54:38 < jadew> renting is not the same tho, it's an extra headache 2016-03-27T00:54:46 < jadew> what if you have to take that trip in the middle of the night, tonight 2016-03-27T00:54:48 < ohsix> i have car and a bike, the bike does almost all the work, the car costs the most just to sit there 2016-03-27T00:55:03 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-27T00:55:04 < BrainDamage> i don't have a car at all 2016-03-27T00:55:11 < ohsix> what if all the roads explode simultaneously 2016-03-27T00:55:12 < jadew> me neither 2016-03-27T00:55:19 < jadew> my wife has a car tho 2016-03-27T00:55:28 < ohsix> but if that happened i would probably borrow a car 2016-03-27T00:56:01 < ohsix> but realistically i would get a rental when i could, there are so few emergencies where a car will get you there in a useful timeframe and you can't wait to go 2016-03-27T00:56:11 < ohsix> if you drive a 60 miles it'll take an hour 2016-03-27T00:56:54 < jadew> there's more to it, comodity, not having to go through the trouble of finding a car and reliability 2016-03-27T00:57:01 < jadew> you know the state your car is in 2016-03-27T00:57:28 < ohsix> not the people i know 2016-03-27T00:57:30 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-27T00:57:58 < ohsix> some people own newer cars that can handle it, but the other people wouldn't want to go more than a hundred without a very thorough check of all the fluids, lights, tires 2016-03-27T00:58:09 < jadew> also, you may not be able find a rental that fits all your requirements for full comfort and peace of mind 2016-03-27T00:58:11 < ohsix> which you should do anyways, but they dont' know if their car can do x miles 2016-03-27T00:58:29 < ohsix> ya you really need to rent that high end sedan when you race to wherever you're going because someone died 2016-03-27T00:59:13 < jadew> you don't, but when you go on a vacation, you kinda want to feel good in it 2016-03-27T01:00:51 < ohsix> anyways 2016-03-27T01:00:55 < ohsix> this is why i have an airplane too 2016-03-27T01:01:01 < ohsix> and a helicopter 2016-03-27T01:01:06 < ohsix> depends on how far i want to go and how fast 2016-03-27T01:01:22 < ohsix> don't use the helicopter that often but for real clutch scenarios it's super important 2016-03-27T01:01:25 < jadew> if I could afford one, I'd get one, just in case 2016-03-27T01:01:29 < ohsix> it costs like 200k a year in fuel and maint and storage 2016-03-27T01:01:30 < jadew> it's the same with the cars 2016-03-27T01:01:45 < ohsix> but i don't have to call someone ono the phone to take it out 2016-03-27T01:01:48 < jadew> we can afford a car 2016-03-27T01:01:50 < ohsix> just that fucking control tower 2016-03-27T01:01:53 < ohsix> the bastards 2016-03-27T01:02:56 < ohsix> anyways ya i get the arguments, they don't make sense :> cars are very expensive 2016-03-27T01:03:00 < jadew> I bought a compressor I never use 2016-03-27T01:03:05 < ohsix> same 2016-03-27T01:03:12 < ohsix> i had it for 2 years and didn't use it so i sold it 2016-03-27T01:03:33 < jadew> I only use it to blow up my son's toys 2016-03-27T01:03:39 < jadew> I know I will use it tho 2016-03-27T01:03:53 < jadew> and when I need one, it'll be there 2016-03-27T01:05:30 < jadew> when you'll need a compressor you'll have to buy a new one :P 2016-03-27T01:15:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh 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hard, the physically larger, the higher the parasitic inductance 2016-03-27T01:58:38 < BrainDamage> when 1/sqrt(LC) is reached, the thing stop behaving like a capacitor 2016-03-27T01:58:43 < kakimir> especially the distance between pads 2016-03-27T01:59:09 < kakimir> he also told what my guru has told us... do not fuck up with multi capacitance bypass caps 2016-03-27T01:59:12 < BrainDamage> which is also why multiple caps are often used to filter supplies 2016-03-27T01:59:28 < BrainDamage> it's possible to get it right 2016-03-27T01:59:33 < Laurenceb_> anyone want to look at my Qt crap and tell me where I went wrong? 2016-03-27T01:59:36 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/Txk0r1eN 2016-03-27T01:59:43 < BrainDamage> but you need to account everything, inc traces 2016-03-27T01:59:53 < kakimir> you need careful calculations and simulations I think BrainDamage 2016-03-27T01:59:58 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying to keep dash patterns consistent and old data is removed using offsets 2016-03-27T02:00:01 < kakimir> and measurements 2016-03-27T02:00:50 < BrainDamage> kakimir: yes ofc, not everyone puts 1000 vias just because he feels like it, you know, you can learn proper science, engineering and math 2016-03-27T02:01:59 < kakimir> BrainDamage: excess vias rarelly hurt 2016-03-27T02:02:39 < BrainDamage> neither excess filtering caps, except when it does 2016-03-27T02:03:51 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T02:03:54 < kakimir> rule of thumb is to use same size in multiples if you don't know what you are doing 2016-03-27T02:05:11 < kakimir> BrainDamage: show me a case when excess vias in plain area cause a problem? 2016-03-27T02:06:07 < BrainDamage> when you heatsink to components which are temp sensitive and need high precision 2016-03-27T02:06:15 < BrainDamage> eg oscillators and crystals 2016-03-27T02:07:15 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-27T02:08:18 < dongs> zyp, noted 2016-03-27T02:08:30 < dongs> will take a look in a bit, probly submit p0cb monday 2016-03-27T02:08:32 < dongs> need to drive out 2016-03-27T02:08:55 < kakimir> you definitelly not heatsink some precision stuff with excess vias 2016-03-27T02:09:05 < kakimir> you propably even seperate it somehow 2016-03-27T02:09:45 < BrainDamage> yes, you want a proper thermal design with isolated area 2016-03-27T02:11:01 < kakimir> do you imply you should go extra careful with basic main oscillator and stuff? 2016-03-27T02:11:07 < kakimir> and not use vias around 2016-03-27T02:11:17 < BrainDamage> no unless you need that 2016-03-27T02:11:34 < kakimir> *crystal that is not even temperature compensated 2016-03-27T02:11:52 < BrainDamage> the point is that having a bit of indepth knowledge lets you decide when pytting the extra care is necessary or when it's just assburgering 2016-03-27T02:11:58 < BrainDamage> i said precision not by chance 2016-03-27T02:12:21 < BrainDamage> and guess what, being able to quantify things helps, errors, inductances, etc 2016-03-27T02:12:40 < BrainDamage> even if it's just a ballpark value 2016-03-27T02:13:38 < BrainDamage> "i need an error of 10^-6, this oscillator has a thermal drift of 10^-4/°C, should i bother with thermal management?" 2016-03-27T02:18:02 < kakimir> sounds tricky 2016-03-27T02:19:10 < kakimir> you propably need to change that oscillator 2016-03-27T02:20:34 < kakimir> answer is you should not even bother to try 2016-03-27T02:20:47 < BrainDamage> correct 2016-03-27T02:23:08 < kakimir> was that all to it? 2016-03-27T02:23:48 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T02:25:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T02:28:38 < kakimir> school me another day! 2016-03-27T02:40:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/XZURkKb.png exposed 2016-03-27T02:41:33 < jadew> lol 2016-03-27T02:41:51 < jadew> took me a while to realize where I've seen it before 2016-03-27T02:42:22 < jadew> it looks exactly the same 2016-03-27T02:42:33 < dongs> thats beacuse non-free tools were used to make that logo 2016-03-27T02:42:41 < jadew> haha 2016-03-27T02:43:10 < dongs> its kinda like that find few yeras ago of photoshop metadata in canonical wallpaper images 2016-03-27T02:43:15 < jadew> I wonder if they comissioned it or if someone from the team figured, hmm, I'll boot up my fav OS and make a logo 2016-03-27T02:43:26 < dongs> its prettty obvious even the companies trying to push lunix dontr wanna have anything to do wiht actually running it 2016-03-27T02:43:55 < dongs> i mean when you go and make a very simple brown wallpaper in photoshop instead of THE GIMP... 2016-03-27T02:44:15 < jadew> let me post that in #debian 2016-03-27T02:44:21 < dongs> haha 2016-03-27T02:44:27 < dongs> im banned, so retweet any interesting responses 2016-03-27T02:44:31 < dongs> ask for official comment. 2016-03-27T02:45:04 < jadew> I will :) 2016-03-27T02:46:58 < dongs> http://files.linuxgizmos.com/beaglecore_bcm1_angle.jpg nice chip inductors 2016-03-27T02:47:30 < jadew> nobody said anything yet 2016-03-27T02:48:42 < Sync> dongs: it's old news 2016-03-27T02:48:53 < jadew> the debian logo? 2016-03-27T02:49:05 < dongs> Sync: sorry. 2016-03-27T02:49:09 < dongs> who got fired over it? 2016-03-27T02:49:46 < jadew> you can't fire the $2.5/one-time-project designer from Indian 2016-03-27T02:49:50 < jadew> *India 2016-03-27T04:04:54 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/mQkspc1.jpg 2016-03-27T04:04:56 < dongs> looks good 2016-03-27T04:06:48 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-27T04:10:59 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-27T04:19:36 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: FatalNIX 2016-03-27T04:20:21 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: http://static.naamapalmu.com/files/uf/big/wyzlat1j.png 2016-03-27T04:21:22 < dongs> I have to note with a slight chuckle the two reference designators (R22 and U4) that are larger than the rest. It’s a purely cosmetic mistake which I recognize because I’ve done it myself several times. From the look of the board, I’m guessing it was designed using Altium. Automatic ECOs in Altium introduce new parts with a goofy huge default designator size, and it’s easy to miss the difference. 2016-03-27T04:21:33 < dongs> yeah because its SO hard to change default silkscreen size in preferences 2016-03-27T04:21:36 < dongs> thats like first thing I do 2016-03-27T04:24:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: FatalNIX 2016-03-27T04:25:17 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T04:30:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T04:31:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T04:33:18 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T04:36:15 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T04:43:14 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: FatalNIX 2016-03-27T04:58:16 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: wut 2016-03-27T04:58:26 < Laurenceb_> image doesnt match text 2016-03-27T05:01:34 < kakimir> it's most likely finnish paint art 2016-03-27T05:12:30 < ohsix> humpies 2016-03-27T05:13:28 < ohsix> after hours and hours of trying hardscrabble to get info on truck, i found a book i knew whe had when i was a kid but thought was lost that has all the figures and everything i needed in it 2016-03-27T05:14:36 < ohsix> sup dongs 2016-03-27T05:16:05 < ohsix> dongs: designers basically use photoshop full stop, and illustrator olol 2016-03-27T05:16:14 < ohsix> there's no 'open source designer' 2016-03-27T05:18:10 < Thorn> do VFDs really start from $30-$60 2016-03-27T05:20:57 < ohsix> yes 2016-03-27T05:21:02 < ohsix> both the display and the drive \m/ 2016-03-27T05:22:14 < Thorn> wtf why are they used in consumer products then 2016-03-27T05:22:21 < Thorn> my microwave has one 2016-03-27T05:22:30 < jadew> they are bright 2016-03-27T05:22:33 < ohsix> if you buy a lot the price goes down 2016-03-27T05:22:34 < jadew> and look cool 2016-03-27T05:22:45 < ohsix> white goods ~= the biggest 'lot' there is 2016-03-27T05:25:47 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: but they were obviously pretty lazy 2016-03-27T05:27:55 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39772.0;attach=1107030;image 2016-03-27T05:27:58 < Laurenceb_> aliens 2016-03-27T05:29:04 < dongs> my OCD is totally killing me. when I make a room in altidong for some reason it doens't align on grids so when I try moving it, all parts inside of it become aligned offset from 0.1mm grid 2016-03-27T05:29:19 < dongs> I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT 2016-03-27T05:31:31 < Laurenceb_> wtf are you reading? 2016-03-27T05:31:39 < Laurenceb_> autium ? 2016-03-27T05:32:28 < dongs> bingo 2016-03-27T05:35:28 < jadew> lol Laurenceb 2016-03-27T05:40:20 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39772.msg1508431#msg1508431 2016-03-27T05:40:25 < Laurenceb_> heh emdrive is dead 2016-03-27T05:41:25 < dongs> thankfully 2016-03-27T05:41:32 < dongs> you can finally stop pasting shit about it 2016-03-27T05:41:49 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d108-172-129-70.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T05:42:05 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-27T05:50:12 < ReadError> i dont get that post 2016-03-27T05:51:28 < dongs> how to get stoned, emdrive edition 2016-03-27T05:52:32 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/vtggSilDT0o?t=15s 2016-03-27T05:54:16 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZEvNYWdOQ 2016-03-27T05:54:52 < dongs> completly fucking useless 2016-03-27T05:54:55 < dongs> assburger tech 2016-03-27T05:54:56 < ReadError> i dont get that either 2016-03-27T05:55:21 < dongs> the obsesesion with nixie tube type shit 2016-03-27T05:55:30 < dongs> also lol @ fucking breadboaded garbage 2016-03-27T05:55:35 < dongs> one breath on it and it al lfalls part 2016-03-27T05:56:25 < Thorn> it's not nixie, it's vfd 2016-03-27T05:56:30 < dongs> same fucking shit man 2016-03-27T05:56:35 < dongs> they're both equally useless. 2016-03-27T05:59:17 < Thorn> looks like they're quite cheap too 2016-03-27T05:59:37 < dongs> kinda like lunix 2016-03-27T05:59:43 < dongs> cheap/free if time is worthless 2016-03-27T05:59:43 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@182.148.36.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T06:00:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.61.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-27T06:09:04 < Thorn> https://hsto.org/storage2/392/215/7a8/3922157a86dc18c656d6cbbf3786d83a.jpg 2016-03-27T06:11:56 -!- amstan [~alex@c-73-189-221-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T06:12:14 < ohsix> is autium a blog or something, taht sounds funny 2016-03-27T06:12:18 < ohsix> or twitter account 2016-03-27T06:14:50 < ohsix> this subaru i've been fucking with has a neat thing in the distributor for the crank position, it's like from a mouse with a ball; phase wheel with like 2000 positions on it 2016-03-27T06:15:09 < ohsix> i wanna write the software for ecms :< they do neat stuff 2016-03-27T06:15:42 < ohsix> the part is used in hundreds of cars but they're like 70$ 2016-03-27T06:15:49 < ohsix> rsb-07 ingition module 2016-03-27T06:16:08 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has 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bad i could probably put a code wheel on a little 2 stroke motor and trigger the spark doodad whenever, change timing with throttle and watnot 2016-03-27T06:51:43 < englishman> what kind of airplane do you have 2016-03-27T06:51:55 < ohsix> one suitable for an argument and not much else 2016-03-27T06:52:05 < englishman> that is exactly what simple ecus like the opensores one do. 2016-03-27T06:52:15 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-27T06:52:37 < ohsix> youc an get really horrible two stroke engines from harbor freight for like 60bux too ;D 2016-03-27T06:52:45 < englishman> timing only is pretty simple, it was done with solidstate shit after all. 2016-03-27T06:53:02 < ohsix> yea with vacuum advance 2016-03-27T06:53:15 < ohsix> other stuff has the same timing through the rpm range 2016-03-27T06:53:35 < englishman> earlier yes, then bikes with pressure sensors and throttle sensore 2016-03-27T06:53:49 < englishman> to dick with timing 2016-03-27T06:54:17 < englishman> now its just more variables in the 20,000 or so in a bosch ecu 2016-03-27T06:54:34 < ohsix> heheheh looking at prices for this module, EVERYONE has 50$ markup 2016-03-27T06:54:41 < ohsix> some have 200% markup 2016-03-27T06:54:44 < englishman> ^ quote from that ccc talk on dieselgate 2016-03-27T06:54:54 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-27T06:55:00 < ohsix> hm 2016-03-27T06:55:09 < englishman> it was a cool talk you should check it out 2016-03-27T06:55:11 < ohsix> i went through this years ccc videos and missed that one, wats the title 2016-03-27T06:55:15 < englishman> good for 60 minutes or so of assburgering 2016-03-27T06:55:27 < englishman> dono but dieselgate was in teh title 2016-03-27T06:55:56 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-27T06:56:08 < ohsix> i see it 2016-03-27T06:56:40 < ohsix> are there any books on this stuff 2016-03-27T06:56:50 < ohsix> oooooooh sae has one, springer has one on control and modelling 2016-03-27T06:58:04 < dongs> < ohsix> or twitter account 2016-03-27T06:58:07 < dongs> yo ushould start one 2016-03-27T06:58:19 < ohsix> i don't use altium enough to have ocd quips 2016-03-27T06:58:30 < ohsix> you need material bruv 2016-03-27T06:59:13 < ohsix> i'd sure like to see if i could find a serial port on the subaru ecu i'm dicking with, getting some more info than the basic blinking lights would be awesome 2016-03-27T06:59:37 < ohsix> http://bookzz.org/md5/991c46085cd4f58ace10bc9bfe788ce3 2016-03-27T07:13:28 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T07:18:44 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-27T07:19:59 < ReadError> LGBTQI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning or intersex) 2016-03-27T07:21:06 < PeterM> ohsix, thats also a tarduino ecu/ems that i cant rememebr the name of that is really popular 2016-03-27T07:23:06 < ohsix> neat 2016-03-27T07:23:09 < ohsix> will have to look 2016-03-27T07:26:54 < ohsix> i have a bike i want to put one of those chinese motor kits on too 2016-03-27T07:27:36 < ohsix> PeterM: speeduino? 2016-03-27T07:27:43 < PeterM> like 2 stroke or electronics? 2016-03-27T07:27:48 < PeterM> no 2016-03-27T07:27:56 < PeterM> oratleast not that i remember 2016-03-27T07:31:05 < ohsix> the arduino thing 2016-03-27T07:31:24 < ohsix> all i'd want for the subaru ecu is a list of no start conditions, there's a starter cutout relay 2016-03-27T07:31:33 < ohsix> it probably is one of the sensors but i dunno 2016-03-27T07:35:48 < englishman> if youre thinking of megasquirt, its not arduino but some other 8bit 2016-03-27T07:36:57 < PeterM> megasquirt sounds liek a catagory on pornhub 2016-03-27T07:38:14 < ohsix> looks legit 2016-03-27T07:39:01 < ohsix> http://megasquirt.info/products/pro-controllers/microsquirt/ 2016-03-27T07:39:07 < ohsix> lolol 2016-03-27T07:39:32 < ohsix> all 'regular' people know about ecus is that they are megabux to replace and they can't be repaired 2016-03-27T07:41:35 < englishman> 68HC908GP32 2016-03-27T07:41:43 < englishman> with 512b ram 2016-03-27T07:46:49 < ReadError> this 'Vox' youtube channel is pretty kewl 2016-03-27T07:47:49 < ohsix> subject matter? 2016-03-27T07:48:00 < ReadError> its about everything 2016-03-27T07:48:06 < ohsix> hm heh, youtube should have a classification system ;D 2016-03-27T07:48:14 < ohsix> like lccn 2016-03-27T07:48:22 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oqm6eO6deU 2016-03-27T07:48:37 < ReadError> haha i remember the glowing puck 2016-03-27T07:49:03 < ReadError> wow so the people that did the glowing puck, made the yellow line for the NFL 2016-03-27T07:49:29 < ohsix> 'why isis attacked brussels' 2016-03-27T07:50:07 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-27T07:50:10 < ohsix> it's vox.com 2016-03-27T07:50:27 < ohsix> can't remember the dudes name 2016-03-27T07:51:18 < ReadError> woh 2016-03-27T07:51:25 < ReadError> the add placement shit is nuts 2016-03-27T07:51:27 < ReadError> ad* 2016-03-27T07:54:19 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnMKCHqXLow 2016-03-27T07:54:23 < ReadError> i knew this shit was rigged 2016-03-27T07:55:37 < ohsix> they are vendor adjustable 2016-03-27T07:55:43 < ReadError> yea 2016-03-27T07:55:46 < ReadError> it talks about that 2016-03-27T07:55:50 < ohsix> there are some legit ones but nobody is cool 2016-03-27T07:55:53 < ReadError> and the drop settings 2016-03-27T07:56:20 < ohsix> er 2016-03-27T07:56:43 < ohsix> randomly making it weak probably isn't legal 2016-03-27T07:56:58 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY96hTb8WgI "It's not you. Bad doors are everywhere." 2016-03-27T07:57:54 < ohsix> if you want me to watch you gotta slow down a bit olol 2016-03-27T07:58:08 < ReadError> ok ill wait till you catch up 2016-03-27T07:58:09 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJQPMRdZ_I this could be interesting but im fuckign struggling wiht the speaker 2016-03-27T07:59:00 < ohsix> i did find some manuals for new / weird 'chance' machines and found ways to 'cheat' sort of 2016-03-27T08:01:23 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:04:19 < ohsix> ReadError: lewl there;s a bar on the door so people don't get prints on the glass 2016-03-27T08:04:34 < ReadError> yea but it should be a flat piece 2016-03-27T08:04:37 < ReadError> makes sense 2016-03-27T08:05:10 < ohsix> it should be discoverable ya 2016-03-27T08:05:39 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-27T08:05:41 < ohsix> PeterM: why 'with vxworks', does it do something novel? 2016-03-27T08:06:09 < ohsix> oh, it is about haxing a thing that uses vxworks in a vxworks specific way? 2016-03-27T08:07:12 < ohsix> the conf schedule for all that shit is gr8, gives you something to read/watch through winter :) (defcon, ccc, the lunix ones) 2016-03-27T08:08:16 < ohsix> ReadError: that 99% invisible design pudcast seems interesting 2016-03-27T08:08:46 < ReadError> hah yea thats actually where i ended up 2016-03-27T08:10:37 < ohsix> http://blog.archive.org/2016/03/23/three-takeaways-after-logging-1032-political-ads-in-the-primaries/ 2016-03-27T08:10:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8500:7bc:ec6a:cd83:73db:b033] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:10:54 < ReadError> the trump shit is pretty crazy 2016-03-27T08:12:24 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:12:34 < ohsix> all the anti kasich ads kind of are too 2016-03-27T08:13:00 < ohsix> he's kind of irrelevant but they're still running ads against him 2016-03-27T08:13:56 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZKDmYfhMhQ 2016-03-27T08:13:57 < ReadError> this 2016-03-27T08:14:36 < ReadError> Why Bernie Sanders tuawks that way -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waeXBCUkuL8 2016-03-27T08:14:56 < ohsix> wow a lot of women watch jimmy kimmel 2016-03-27T08:16:04 < ohsix> yea that guy, ezra klein 2016-03-27T08:16:12 < ohsix> he's the vox guy 2016-03-27T08:16:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:17:21 < ohsix> don't need him telling me this huhuhu, who has to be told this? 2016-03-27T08:17:34 < ReadError> wat 2016-03-27T08:18:52 < ohsix> (ezra klein, trump) 2016-03-27T08:23:30 < ohsix> the illustrations in the vox videos are top notch 2016-03-27T08:23:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-27T08:23:41 < ReadError> yea lots of good shit 2016-03-27T08:24:23 < jadew> what are you watching? 2016-03-27T08:24:32 < ReadError> random Vox vids on youtube 2016-03-27T08:24:57 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/user/voxdotcom/videos 2016-03-27T08:25:02 < ohsix> my x-girlfriends something something, bernie was in a movie 2016-03-27T08:25:34 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABUuFJU71PY 2016-03-27T08:25:39 < ReadError> oh shit ohsix 2016-03-27T08:25:44 < ReadError> one about Broad City 2016-03-27T08:26:12 < ohsix> gonna start pronouncing the h in what/where/when 2016-03-27T08:26:39 < jadew> so that Vox guy is using black lives matters as the "protesters" that need protecting? 2016-03-27T08:26:42 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:26:51 < ohsix> no 2016-03-27T08:26:52 < jadew> that's a poor choice of background images 2016-03-27T08:27:04 < ohsix> oh, maybe; didn't notice 2016-03-27T08:27:27 < ohsix> it is pretty plain what point he's trying to make, bad image choice isn't a symbolic thing :p 2016-03-27T08:27:54 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-27T08:28:18 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:30:09 < ohsix> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120488/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2 2016-03-27T08:30:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-27T08:30:43 < jadew> ohsix, what about it? 2016-03-27T08:31:02 < jadew> recommendation? 2016-03-27T08:31:02 < ohsix> that's the movie he was in 2016-03-27T08:31:09 < jadew> who? 2016-03-27T08:31:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:31:15 < jadew> Trump? 2016-03-27T08:31:17 < ohsix> bernie sanders :o 2016-03-27T08:31:24 < ohsix> huhuhuhu trump was in a movie too 2016-03-27T08:31:26 < ohsix> hang on 2016-03-27T08:32:48 < ohsix> someone did a scene release recently too so you can actually get it, http://predb.me/?search=ghosts%20cant%20do%20it 2016-03-27T08:33:52 < ohsix> definitely pirate it, otherwise trump might get some money :< 2016-03-27T08:34:29 < ohsix> the bits with donald trump from vhs versions or something are on youtube too 2016-03-27T08:34:45 < jadew> yeah, watching it now 2016-03-27T08:34:54 < jadew> who do you think will win the elections? 2016-03-27T08:34:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-27T08:35:40 < ohsix> no idea 2016-03-27T08:35:59 < ohsix> not a big guesser or try-to-knower in this area, too squishy 2016-03-27T08:36:35 < jadew> when I first heard of Trump, he was seen as a joke 2016-03-27T08:36:46 < jadew> now it looks like a lot of people are going to vote for him 2016-03-27T08:37:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:37:16 < jadew> I didn't follow anything of what any of the candidates had to say or promissed tho 2016-03-27T08:38:06 < ohsix> people are vindictive, scared and racist, if they vote then it's a valid way to go 2016-03-27T08:38:30 < ohsix> i kind of though that stuff was over but old people are still around 2016-03-27T08:38:54 < jadew> I think it's the fault of the current wave of SJWs 2016-03-27T08:39:05 < ohsix> my mom is crazy racist and hates hillarly clinton but can't stand any scrutiny 2016-03-27T08:39:30 < jadew> they're very disruptive (the SJWs) 2016-03-27T08:39:36 < ohsix> i think sjws don't need to exist for people to project onto them as a group of people that are 'the enemy' 2016-03-27T08:40:21 < jadew> don't know, I think that if they didn't exist, they'd be more "liberal" 2016-03-27T08:40:38 < ohsix> people can just be people then sideswiped by someone that doesn't like something they did or an opinion they held, and they get the label with it; it is not the labeled persons problem 2016-03-27T08:40:41 < jadew> which is what happened in the past, until everyone went nuts over everything silly and stupid 2016-03-27T08:41:32 < ohsix> it is essential to have a third party to descend on them to identify the 'behaviour' and by definition they're the out group 2016-03-27T08:41:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-27T08:42:14 < ohsix> i don't even understand the concept of hate, so ... yea 2016-03-27T08:42:20 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T08:43:37 < ohsix> everything that might make me hate a person is an identifiable behaviour i can avoid or not prompt, then it is that person that does a thing i don't like; i'll leave or not talk to them but i'm not gonnah ate them 2016-03-27T08:44:01 < jadew> ohsix, depends on what they did 2016-03-27T08:44:06 < ohsix> it is simple to create a cadre of oppressive forces 2016-03-27T08:44:17 < jadew> there are things that people are more sensitive about 2016-03-27T08:44:23 < jadew> and those things varry from person to person 2016-03-27T08:44:32 < jadew> but others are generally true 2016-03-27T08:44:37 < ohsix> i think i would be consistent up to and including grave bodily harm 2016-03-27T08:44:38 < jadew> for example, if someone steals from the poor 2016-03-27T08:44:50 < jadew> even if you don't have that issue, you're not going to like that person a lot 2016-03-27T08:45:01 < jadew> in fact, you might even punch him/her in the face if you get the chance 2016-03-27T08:45:20 < ohsix> one thing generally does not represent a person overriding all other things 2016-03-27T08:45:46 < ohsix> kind of like uh, competence in one area does not imply competence in another 2016-03-27T08:45:46 < jadew> can you please explain? 2016-03-27T08:46:04 < jadew> so you mean that someone shouldn't be judged by the one action? 2016-03-27T08:46:23 < ohsix> there are no discrete actions, but sort of, maybe 2016-03-27T08:46:28 < jadew> I agree, however the kind of behaviours that end up in "hate" are usually repetitive 2016-03-27T08:47:04 < ohsix> i mean if like someone farts in your car or house constantly but he's still your friend or neighbor or is good at something else with respect to you 2016-03-27T08:47:25 < jadew> that's obviously not a reason for hate 2016-03-27T08:47:31 < ohsix> right 2016-03-27T08:47:50 < ohsix> but it is a reason to say to a third person 'x farts in my car all the time' 2016-03-27T08:48:06 < jadew> for example, Romanians are very non-racist, because we never deal with many other races 2016-03-27T08:48:20 < jadew> in fact, most of us are curious and that's about it 2016-03-27T08:48:34 < jadew> however, we have gypsies in here and most of them do a lot of crappy shit 2016-03-27T08:48:36 < ohsix> being relatively innocuous was the point, they don't have to be bombing abortion clinics 2016-03-27T08:48:51 < ohsix> heh werd 2016-03-27T08:49:06 < ohsix> i lived in vancouver washington when there was a ton of roma 2016-03-27T08:49:25 < jadew> thing is, some of them were successfully integrated 2016-03-27T08:49:35 < ohsix> they seemed suspicious and wouldn't talk to yo (couldn't?) and that was the extent of that 2016-03-27T08:49:40 < jadew> and they're respected by everyone, as equal members of the society 2016-03-27T08:49:42 < ohsix> i'd have liked to talk to them 2016-03-27T08:50:07 < ohsix> suspicious of me, not personally suspicious or conspicuous 2016-03-27T08:50:40 < jadew> they're... very interesting 2016-03-27T08:50:45 < ohsix> they'd go to some of the same junk shops and grab the cool stuff i was there for :< 2016-03-27T08:51:01 < jadew> they have completely different values 2016-03-27T08:51:07 < ohsix> if they wan't cool stuff that i also want they can't be all bad, they know what the stuff is :p 2016-03-27T08:51:32 < jadew> heh 2016-03-27T08:53:43 < ohsix> i was pretty young and highly annoyed by it, i might have said things that sounded like i didn't like them, but what i didn't like is that i went to these cool places looking for junk and so were they 2016-03-27T08:54:11 < jadew> lol 2016-03-27T08:54:14 < jadew> what junk? 2016-03-27T08:54:59 < ohsix> the kind of place you could find a pxl2000 before anyone knew what they were 2016-03-27T08:55:14 < ohsix> i had one too :<<<< ditched it tho 2016-03-27T08:55:56 < ohsix> one of the places was a distribution center for thrift stores i think 2016-03-27T08:55:59 < jadew> didn't know about them, they sound cool 2016-03-27T08:56:15 < ohsix> they had a big open area in the back with bins that had interesting but less saleable stuff 2016-03-27T08:56:35 < ohsix> pre internet so they couldn't just look things up on amazon 2016-03-27T08:57:03 < Getty> some german sausage king has shot himself...... while driving 120 km/h ...... so german ;) 2016-03-27T08:57:05 < ohsix> miss that city for those kinds of places, flea markets too 2016-03-27T08:57:48 < ohsix> ReadError: pepper spray callback === i need to watch ALL of them again 2016-03-27T09:05:02 < ohsix> ReadError: getting that slightly dum feeling that i'm not paying enough attention to something that is good though 2016-03-27T09:05:09 < ohsix> need to figure out that hat :D 2016-03-27T09:13:27 < ohsix> jadew: i still like the 1bpp aesthetic 2016-03-27T09:14:16 < jadew> it was monochrome? 2016-03-27T09:14:27 < ohsix> my tape drive didn't work in mine so i just saw the video feed from the sensor 2016-03-27T09:14:28 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-27T09:14:33 < ohsix> it recorded on audio tape 2016-03-27T09:14:49 < jadew> yeah, I read that on wikipedia 2016-03-27T09:14:50 < ohsix> audio tape smoothed the sensor stuff majorly 2016-03-27T09:14:54 < jadew> you know... you can make one yourself 2016-03-27T09:15:05 < jadew> and probably record in color :P 2016-03-27T09:16:26 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-27T09:16:52 < ohsix> i wanna try jiggering up a 1bpp vidya codec that can go over nrf24 2016-03-27T09:17:14 < ohsix> haven't found a really bad/slow sensor to mess with tho 2016-03-27T09:17:31 < ohsix> hm haven't looked for b&w ones at all tho 2016-03-27T09:17:44 < jadew> speaking of sensors, I have a bunch of linear light sensors on my bench 2016-03-27T09:17:54 < jadew> I want to make a spectroscope 2016-03-27T09:18:29 < ohsix> pxl2000 was 120x90, there are b&w oled displays that are 128x64 2016-03-27T09:18:39 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-27T09:19:39 < jadew> I wonder if you can use those as sensors 2016-03-27T09:21:55 < jadew> does OLED work the other way? 2016-03-27T09:25:43 < ohsix> not like LEDs i don't think, but even so, the controller would have to do it and they don't 2016-03-27T09:25:54 < ohsix> the display memory is in the controller 2016-03-27T09:26:01 < jadew> well, you could take over and scan them 2016-03-27T09:26:13 < jadew> you would have to drain them after you read the value tho 2016-03-27T09:27:20 < ohsix> that's a heavyweight change 2016-03-27T09:27:29 < ohsix> it's flip chip thing bonded to the cable 2016-03-27T09:27:40 < jadew> ah 2016-03-27T09:27:47 < ohsix> from uh, either solomon systech directly or a clone 2016-03-27T09:28:09 < ohsix> don't even think you could do readbacks with the way the matrix is 2016-03-27T09:29:02 < jadew> well, if you can write to individual pixels, you can probably read too 2016-03-27T09:29:59 < ohsix> sec will find controller 2016-03-27T09:32:04 < ohsix> http://www.solomon-systech.com/en/product/display-ic/oled-driver-controller/ssd1306/ https://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/SSD1306.pdf 2016-03-27T09:32:53 < jadew> looks like you can 2016-03-27T09:33:19 < jadew> hmm 2016-03-27T09:33:42 < jadew> I guess that a regular sensor would have the pixels always charging 2016-03-27T09:34:00 < jadew> this would charge only if you connect it 2016-03-27T09:37:20 < ohsix> ReadError: get the pilot to 'the carmichael show', his mom is a good foil, not ready to say it is any good (it's a sitcom) but i'm watching it :p 2016-03-27T09:38:39 < ohsix> it's also on nbc and isn't total shit 2016-03-27T09:43:51 < ReadError> I want a bigger OLED screen 2016-03-27T09:44:09 < PeterM> ReadError, nig one off a samsung phone then 2016-03-27T09:44:53 < ohsix> make the pixels embiggenered 2016-03-27T09:45:11 < ohsix> i saw 1x1" LEDs in an arcade machine 2016-03-27T09:45:16 < PeterM> then pay a paki $5 to make na interface fpga/cpld ofr it 2016-03-27T09:46:50 < ohsix> ReadError: you can get panels that are supposed to go into huge displays for cheap 2016-03-27T09:47:04 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-42-12864-OLED-Display-Module-IIC-I2C-SPI-Serial-FOR-Arduino-C51-STM32-Blue-/111834352206?hash=item1a09d8ca4e:g:mk4AAOSwf-VWV6~3 2016-03-27T09:48:21 < ohsix> oh woah wat lul 2016-03-27T09:48:38 < ohsix> carmichael show is in second season, thought it just started 2016-03-27T09:50:56 < ohsix> http://www.cn-coin-op.com/admin/Uploadpic/200984162193157.gif LEDs i saw were in a machine similar to this 2016-03-27T09:51:01 < ohsix> basically big tetris 2016-03-27T09:51:42 < ohsix> i should get the name -> look for replacement part numbers 2016-03-27T09:54:01 < ohsix> https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/EE2413 2016-03-27T09:54:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-27T09:54:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8500:7bc:ec6a:cd83:73db:b033] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T09:55:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8500:7bc:1579:8a4a:ba86:be09] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T09:58:30 < ohsix> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/26/471958688/bird-visits-bernie-sanders-rally-sparks-delight-on-twitter 2016-03-27T09:59:33 < ohsix> jadew: this bird changes _everything_ 2016-03-27T10:06:24 < ohsix> http://www.ehong-cheng.com/products_detail.php?yc_id=355 nice 2016-03-27T10:06:33 < ohsix> i have some of their parts already 2016-03-27T10:07:22 < ohsix> http://www.ebidgo.com/ebid/sys/admin/Upload/files/84/84617346%20/thum/thum_20130826152405.JPG can't find which 'royal light' it is tho, there's like 5 that do LEDs 2016-03-27T10:10:35 < ReadError> damn cuba is still pretty fucked up 2016-03-27T10:10:41 < ReadError> doctors make like $40 a month 2016-03-27T10:12:23 < ohsix> what does 40$usd buy in cuba tho 2016-03-27T10:18:46 < ReadError> probably not much 2016-03-27T10:19:09 < ReadError> the taxi driver earned 20$ just for driving the dude 30 mins 2016-03-27T10:23:28 < dongs> i come back and more garbage spoam 2016-03-27T10:24:52 < ohsix> you're being spammed with garbage? 2016-03-27T10:24:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.54] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T10:25:14 < dongs> yeah, garbage offtopic chats 2016-03-27T10:25:34 < ohsix> i blame everyone else 2016-03-27T10:25:42 < dongs> solution is p.easy 2016-03-27T10:26:10 * ohsix wag finger 2016-03-27T10:27:43 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-27T10:27:47 < ReadError> who gives a fuck 2016-03-27T10:27:53 < ReadError> not like anyone is talking 2016-03-27T10:28:09 < dongs> nobody is talking because you're filling the space with trash 2016-03-27T10:28:41 < ohsix> like a space filling curve 2016-03-27T10:29:16 < ReadError> dongs hm yea, ok 2016-03-27T10:31:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8500:7bc:1579:8a4a:ba86:be09] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-27T10:32:34 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/TlrdXIY.png 2016-03-27T10:36:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.54] has quit [] 2016-03-27T10:42:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.182] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T10:55:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T11:03:03 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: FatalNIX 2016-03-27T11:09:45 < ohsix> https://www.instagram.com/p/1s1106h8i5/ 2016-03-27T11:10:46 < dongs> last i chceked gameboy didn't have stm32 in it 2016-03-27T11:11:14 < ohsix> ReadError: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXWcMiG9ROQ 2016-03-27T11:11:17 < ohsix> that one did 2016-03-27T11:12:38 < ReadError> stopped talking 2016-03-27T11:12:43 < ReadError> chats failed to pick up 2016-03-27T11:13:13 < ohsix> yea that was weird 2016-03-27T11:20:14 < ohsix> you probably talked just before it was about to happen 2016-03-27T11:30:47 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T11:42:21 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-39-4.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T11:44:16 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-39-4.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-27T11:47:56 < ohsix> http://rusefi.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page 2016-03-27T11:54:48 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-G6040-7-4-push-button-foot-switch-tactile-switch-smd-for-mobile-phone-poweder/32382382055.html?spm=2114.40010308.4.164.ODfeWj useless as shit link 2016-03-27T11:57:50 < dongs> oh hm they do have the footprint+pinout as 2nd image 2016-03-27T12:04:34 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T12:07:01 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: FatalNIX 2016-03-27T12:07:15 < dongs> http://www.cndragonwell.com/products_list/&pmcId=36.html 2016-03-27T12:07:17 < dongs> niice 2016-03-27T12:08:46 < PeterM> dongs i bet you're pumped for next weeknd 2016-03-27T12:08:51 < dongs> whats happening 2016-03-27T12:09:52 < PeterM> ?????? 2016-03-27T12:10:13 < dongs> i duno man, tell me . i never plan that far in advance 2016-03-27T12:10:25 < dongs> is it some jap holiday or smth 2016-03-27T12:10:44 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanamara_Matsuri 2016-03-27T12:10:53 < PeterM> my irc client musnt have pasted right 2016-03-27T12:11:03 < dongs> o that shit 2016-03-27T12:11:15 < dongs> thats liek so far from here i dont even care 2016-03-27T12:12:13 < PeterM> its not my fault you live so far south you may aswell be in australia 2016-03-27T12:12:20 < dongs> srsly 2016-03-27T12:12:57 < dongs> http://www.cndragonwell.com/products_detail/&productId=1008.html 2016-03-27T12:13:00 < dongs> waht the fuck is this? USB-C? 2016-03-27T12:13:16 < dongs> oh no its fucking clone samsung usb shit 2016-03-27T12:27:09 < dongs> http://szycheng.com/ep_s.asp?id=555 score 2016-03-27T12:29:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T12:29:49 < ohsix> far south? 2016-03-27T12:30:39 < ohsix> nice buttons 2016-03-27T12:30:45 < ohsix> wat are you using them for 2016-03-27T12:30:55 < dongs> replacing throughhole button on dpadapter. 2016-03-27T12:31:26 < dongs> torn between http://szycheng.com/ep_s.asp?id=558&class_id=70 and http://lqtydz.com/productmore.asp?id=289&pid=20&i=20&SortID=20&Ord=100 but probably go for TC-020 since its slightly bigger 2016-03-27T12:32:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T12:32:02 < dongs> it kinda looks easier to break off tho 2016-03-27T12:32:13 < zyp> PeterM, haha, I went there three years ago 2016-03-27T12:32:29 < ohsix> huhh mackie changed their name to 'loud technologies' :< 2016-03-27T12:32:40 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/0XIwA.jpg 2016-03-27T12:33:17 < ohsix> dpad wut 2016-03-27T12:33:32 < zyp> that thing attracted the largest crowd of foreigers I've ever seen in one place in japan 2016-03-27T12:33:50 < dongs> probly the only reason tehy still run it 2016-03-27T12:33:52 < ohsix> that lqtydz hostname is so legit 2016-03-27T12:33:56 < dongs> dumb weebs pay for the city 2016-03-27T12:34:40 < ohsix> have dick festival, jail woman that uses vagina for things 2016-03-27T12:41:48 < ohsix> that cndragon site is neat; makes me think of how bad molex's website is 2016-03-27T12:42:33 < PeterM> zyp i can only imagine 2016-03-27T12:43:04 < PeterM> tc-020 looks fine 2016-03-27T12:50:42 < dongs> but that < 1mm neck from button to switchb ody 2016-03-27T12:52:43 < dongs> anyway thats what im drawing footprint for now anyway. 2016-03-27T12:56:30 < ohsix> what dpad adapter 2016-03-27T13:04:45 -!- Nutter [~hehe@server.mesophase.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-27T13:07:12 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T13:09:23 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T13:10:50 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T13:11:20 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/3YcZmXx.png feer my kikecad 3d modeling skillz 2016-03-27T13:12:02 < dongs> yeah. 2016-03-27T13:26:19 < dongs> ohsix: this one https://shop.emergeplus.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PB-00002-02.jpg 2016-03-27T13:27:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T13:30:37 < dongs> looks like a monitor to me 2016-03-27T13:32:25 < dongs> thats exactly what it is 2016-03-27T13:51:08 < dongs> get high 2016-03-27T13:53:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T13:53:58 < dongs> Death toll on Brussels terror attack revised from 31 to 28, officials say. 2016-03-27T14:03:55 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T14:06:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T14:06:34 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-27T14:11:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-27T14:18:44 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T14:46:26 < Sync> http://www.acrypet.com/acrypetEnglish/welcome.html the fuck 2016-03-27T14:46:36 < Sync> what is wrong with all those jappu companies? 2016-03-27T14:48:10 < dongs> wat about it 2016-03-27T14:53:45 < Sync> it looks like it is 1990 again 2016-03-27T14:54:04 < dongs> you mean jap websites? 2016-03-27T14:54:09 < Sync> yes 2016-03-27T14:54:12 < dongs> it never left 1990 2016-03-27T14:54:17 < dongs> is that frames? 2016-03-27T14:54:28 < BrainDamage> try any ham site and you'll never miss geocities again 2016-03-27T14:55:03 < PeterM> i gotta say, sometimes 1990 looks better than modern startup website 2016-03-27T14:55:14 < lorenzo> PeterM: http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/ 2016-03-27T14:55:35 < mitrax> rotfl 2016-03-27T14:56:02 < PeterM> 100% 2016-03-27T14:56:27 < mitrax> lorenzo: so true ahahaha 2016-03-27T14:56:56 < lorenzo> yah I guess it's how web ""developers"" work these days 2016-03-27T14:57:04 < lorenzo> change words in a template, upload, grab the money, run 2016-03-27T14:57:16 < BrainDamage> the positive thing of 1990 design is that at least it doesn't take 5MB and 30s of an i7 core usage to render a page 2016-03-27T14:57:41 < mitrax> the new trend is to put a fullscreen video as background 2016-03-27T14:58:05 < dongs> mitrax: yeah that fucking shit. 2016-03-27T14:58:45 < lorenzo> BrainDamage: I love ham radio websites too lol 2016-03-27T14:58:50 < lorenzo> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/endonofr/satelliti_meteo.htm 2016-03-27T14:58:52 < lorenzo> animated gif: check 2016-03-27T14:58:56 < lorenzo> windows xp screenshots: check 2016-03-27T14:59:01 < lorenzo> fugly background color: check 2016-03-27T14:59:02 < dongs> loool 2016-03-27T14:59:11 < lorenzo> actually interesting content: check 2016-03-27T14:59:30 < dongs> > windows xp wiht default theme 2016-03-27T14:59:31 < dongs> whoah 2016-03-27T15:00:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9debe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T15:01:39 < lorenzo> crt: I have a VM for a client who runs very old Siemens PLCs, other than that, no 2016-03-27T15:01:49 < dongs> i have a bunch of XP VMs running jap software 2016-03-27T15:38:41 < dongs> my non-pro pal is begging me to look at his shit arduino code thats trashing stack or memory somewhere and obv i dont wanna do it 2016-03-27T15:38:45 < dongs> where should I point him to 2016-03-27T15:45:27 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-27T15:46:30 < ReadError> stackoverflow 2016-03-27T15:46:49 < Sync> swagoverflow pls 2016-03-27T15:47:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T15:47:58 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-27T15:52:24 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T15:54:45 -!- pid [~pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T16:04:36 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T16:06:22 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T16:14:37 -!- inca [uid154621@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-frzfdxtnbseeoers] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T16:28:36 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@106.79.183.31] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T16:33:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@106.79.183.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T16:35:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-27T16:36:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T16:56:13 < dongs> any way to fucking make altidong paste vias into SAME NET THEY WERE COPIED FROM 2016-03-27T16:56:15 < dongs> ugh 2016-03-27T17:02:15 < zyp> From the Paste Special dialog, you can choose to paste objects on the current layer (selected option) or retain their original layers (deselected). Clicking on Keep Net Name retains the original net names of pasted objects. If this option is not selected, the pasted object’s net attribute is set to ‘No net’. 2016-03-27T17:02:27 < zyp> apparently 2016-03-27T17:02:47 < dongs> that works 2016-03-27T17:02:47 < dongs> nice 2016-03-27T17:03:06 < zyp> I seem to recall there were a hotkey to paste via with net as well, but I don't remember 2016-03-27T17:04:56 < dongs> ea+enter close enough 2016-03-27T17:05:47 < dongs> done 2016-03-27T17:05:55 < dongs> updated my dpadapter with minidp/microusb socket 2016-03-27T17:10:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T17:22:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T17:45:14 < Steffanx> Such hackintosh fun after an upgrade i shouldn't have done :) 2016-03-27T17:50:45 < emeb_mac> Steffanx is hackintosher? 2016-03-27T17:50:54 < mitrax> boooooh 2016-03-27T17:51:02 < Steffanx> Yes. It seems so. 2016-03-27T17:51:52 < Steffanx> mitrax for you i also run windows. 2016-03-27T17:52:31 -!- Steffanx is now known as Steffann 2016-03-27T17:53:01 < emeb_mac> never had the guts to try that - seemed so fraught 2016-03-27T17:55:26 < mitrax> Steffanx: j/k i don't advocate nor hate any os 2016-03-27T17:55:43 < PeterM> i had a macbook air that tried to kill me and thought "if apple software is as good as their hardware i'd probably avoid it" 2016-03-27T17:57:16 < Steffann> nice story PeterM :P 2016-03-27T17:58:07 < PeterM> hey mang, when you pay a butt load for a laptop you dont want the thing to look liek it has a tumor when the lipos all swell, and for the replacement one to do the same 6 months later 2016-03-27T17:58:49 < emeb_mac> those swelling lipos. it just loves you. 2016-03-27T17:59:01 < emeb_mac> not dangerous - sign of "affection" 2016-03-27T17:59:04 < Steffann> but you have to admit, you replaced it with chinaclone battery? :P 2016-03-27T17:59:20 < PeterM> no, it was under warranty so i got the whole thing replaced 2016-03-27T17:59:28 < PeterM> it bent the aluminium case etc 2016-03-27T18:00:03 < Steffann> Im glad i never had to endure such thing. I would never trust it again. 2016-03-27T18:00:17 < emeb_mac> this macbook is ancient - have replace the battery 2x now. 2016-03-27T18:00:30 < emeb_mac> they always puff up like that. 2016-03-27T18:00:48 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-39-4.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-27T18:00:50 < emeb_mac> fortunately it's a user-serviceable part in this model. 2016-03-27T18:00:52 < Steffann> ancient as in .. the white plastic one? 2016-03-27T18:00:59 < emeb_mac> Steffann: yes 2016-03-27T18:01:14 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-39-4.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T18:01:40 < PeterM> i mean, great little laptop until it want and did that 2016-03-27T18:02:19 < emeb_mac> AIUI, all the new apple laptops are basically glued together. Not serviceable at all. meh. 2016-03-27T18:02:37 < PeterM> emeb_mac, yeah 2016-03-27T18:02:51 < Steffann> my 2010 macbook pro is not glued together at all. 2016-03-27T18:02:51 < emeb_mac> because screws are so 20th cen 2016-03-27T18:02:55 < Steffann> or is that not new enough? 2016-03-27T18:03:14 < PeterM> thats kinda OK, because iirc the only thing that isnt glued together it the battery 2016-03-27T18:03:17 < Steffann> all screws 2016-03-27T18:03:39 < PeterM> anythign newer than liek 2014 or something iirc 2016-03-27T18:03:42 < emeb_mac> Steffann: dunno when they started doing that. a couple years back. 2016-03-27T18:04:47 < emeb_mac> if you're a pro with a hot air gun that's fine I suppose. 2016-03-27T18:23:23 < PeterM> emeb_mac, do you have any other apple hardware that you make daily use of? 2016-03-27T18:23:43 < emeb_mac> PeterM: no 2016-03-27T18:24:03 < PeterM> fair enough 2016-03-27T18:24:05 < emeb_mac> just this old lappy for websurfing 2016-03-27T18:24:20 < PeterM> professional apple blogging 2016-03-27T18:24:22 < jpa-> my wife's 2009 macbook is pretty much glued together, but it was an after-market upgrade 2016-03-27T18:24:39 < emeb_mac> "upgrade" 2016-03-27T18:24:46 < PeterM> at what time did apple go from powerpc->x86? 2016-03-27T18:24:58 < jpa-> 2002 or something like that 2016-03-27T18:25:16 < PeterM> really? i thoguht it was later than that, like 06 even 2016-03-27T18:25:45 < jpa-> hmm yeah 2016-03-27T18:25:49 < jpa-> wikipedia agrees with you 2016-03-27T18:26:38 < PeterM> anyway, all i can think of is how apple would look if they stuck wiht powerpc 2016-03-27T18:26:52 < jpa-> slowish? 2016-03-27T18:26:55 < lorenzo> it would just OVERHEAT and DIE 2016-03-27T18:27:17 < lorenzo> lol I remember the dual G5 "Pro" 2016-03-27T18:27:26 < lorenzo> with water cooling that leaked and corroded the case after 1-2 years 2016-03-27T18:27:39 < PeterM> jpa-, not jsut that but market share as a result, company profits etc 2016-03-27T18:27:56 < jpa-> iphone might have been the same 2016-03-27T18:28:21 < lorenzo> I think profits from their computers are already their minor thing 2016-03-27T18:28:27 < jpa-> so not such radical difference, and if they didn't go x86, they might have gone ARM in the laptops also 2016-03-27T18:28:39 < PeterM> eyah at thsi stage their computres are a tiny portion, but back then they werent 2016-03-27T18:28:56 < lorenzo> http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2015/01/linechart.png yeah 2016-03-27T18:29:11 < PeterM> i think they might have dropped computers all together, gone workstations and phones 2016-03-27T18:29:26 < jpa-> workstations? 2016-03-27T18:29:49 < lorenzo> pretend to work stations 2016-03-27T18:29:50 < PeterM> mac pro vs imacs and macbooks 2016-03-27T18:30:19 < lorenzo> although I think the pro is still quite used in the movie/music/whatever industry 2016-03-27T18:30:27 < PeterM> heh, looks like nobody gives a fuck about eyepads in q115 2016-03-27T18:31:29 < jpa-> how so? ipad sales seems relatively large still 2016-03-27T18:31:39 < jpa-> whereas ipod has shrunk to nothing 2016-03-27T18:32:09 < lorenzo> well let's not forget the first iphone was 3.5" and the first ipad was 9.7" 2016-03-27T18:32:27 < lorenzo> nowadays it's more like the average phone is 5.5" if not 6" 2016-03-27T18:32:28 < lorenzo> so.. 2016-03-27T18:32:31 < jpa-> why can't we forget that? 2016-03-27T18:32:46 < lorenzo> I mean, there's no real difference anymore that I can see 2016-03-27T18:33:00 < PeterM> jpa-, the slither o nthe graph at the end for q115 is smalelr than it has been since q111 2016-03-27T18:33:28 < lorenzo> 3.5" was quite clunky for browsing and everything, so the iPad had some place to fit in between that and full fledged laptops 2016-03-27T18:33:38 < PeterM> lorenzo, i sorta agree, there is no place for the ipad anymore 2016-03-27T18:33:51 < PeterM> but at the same time there wasnt really a place for them before either 2016-03-27T18:34:03 < lorenzo> I think it was a bit like netbooks 2016-03-27T18:34:05 < lorenzo> novelty driven 2016-03-27T18:34:09 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-27T18:34:13 < jpa-> PeterM: seems about same height at the right edge, difficult to say accurately; note that the area of the grey area is meaningless and distorted by the stacking 2016-03-27T18:34:17 < lorenzo> then everyone realised it's perfectly fine without one 2016-03-27T18:34:38 < PeterM> jpa yes ut us hyst tge height of the grey above the red 2016-03-27T18:34:56 < jpa-> now that was clear 2016-03-27T18:35:00 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-27T18:35:14 < PeterM> jpa yes it is just the hight of the grey above the red that matters 2016-03-27T18:35:22 < PeterM> well, red and purple 2016-03-27T18:35:35 < PeterM> but the pruple seems to have departed too 2016-03-27T18:35:58 < lorenzo> I wonder what "Services" is 2016-03-27T18:36:00 < lorenzo> apps? 2016-03-27T18:36:10 < PeterM> icloud,itunes 2016-03-27T18:36:17 < PeterM> appstore 2016-03-27T18:36:42 < PeterM> other would be apple airport, earphones, monitors 2016-03-27T18:36:57 < PeterM> their "time machien" things 2016-03-27T18:50:37 < dongs> "services" is the part where they fuck you in the ass 2016-03-27T19:05:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T19:08:29 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T19:09:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.82] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T19:12:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-27T19:35:50 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T19:39:44 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/WsN5ADS 2016-03-27T19:48:21 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-03-27T19:48:28 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T19:50:26 < Steffann> Deutschland uber alles 2016-03-27T19:52:41 < mitrax> Laurenceb: it's pretty much the same thing here 2016-03-27T19:52:55 < mitrax> Laurenceb: i.e not germany specific 2016-03-27T19:53:07 < Steffann> where is "here" for mitrax? 2016-03-27T19:53:11 < jpa-> very useful comment 2016-03-27T19:53:15 < jpa-> 5/5 would read again 2016-03-27T19:53:30 < mitrax> france, sorry 2016-03-27T19:54:03 < Steffann> Sauna stories episode 1 jpa-? 2016-03-27T19:54:11 < jpa-> that 2016-03-27T19:54:40 < jpa-> went to sauna yesterday, did not see steffanx hiding under the benches 2016-03-27T19:54:55 < Steffann> One does cosy in sauna, i wasn the guy next to you. 2016-03-27T19:55:00 < Steffann> -n 2016-03-27T19:57:34 < Steffann> hmm, i expected you to be czech or something mitrax. Anything but french 2016-03-27T19:57:43 < mitrax> eh? why? 2016-03-27T19:58:41 < Steffann> Not sure. Reasonable, OK english and your nick.. i think. 2016-03-27T19:58:49 < mitrax> ahahaha 2016-03-27T20:06:34 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T20:06:36 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-27T20:08:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T20:09:10 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T20:11:18 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-27T20:25:11 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/F5nlOcS 2016-03-27T20:25:15 < ReadError> omg first comment 2016-03-27T20:25:17 < ReadError> looooool 2016-03-27T20:25:26 -!- garfong [~garfong@208.167.254.205] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T20:31:53 < dongs> oh boy 2016-03-27T20:31:55 < dongs> incoming rant 2016-03-27T20:31:58 < dongs> you know how java file picker 2016-03-27T20:32:05 < dongs> when you press enter in it 2016-03-27T20:32:09 < dongs> instead of fucking GOIGN TO THAT FOLDER 2016-03-27T20:32:12 < dongs> it just commits the dialog 2016-03-27T20:32:19 < dongs> of course, it doens't remember last used folder either 2016-03-27T20:32:27 < dongs> so I've got this java trash that I need to load 5 files into 2016-03-27T20:32:31 < dongs> like 8 levels deep into filessytem 2016-03-27T20:32:43 < dongs> so instad of pasting path into the shit, pressing enter, then selecting the file 2016-03-27T20:32:51 < dongs> i have to fucking click through starting from my computer 2016-03-27T20:32:55 < zyp> sorry, I don't know that 2016-03-27T20:32:59 < dongs> motherfuckers does anyone actually use this shit holy fuck. 2016-03-27T20:32:59 < zyp> I don't use java garbage 2016-03-27T20:37:14 < Laurenceb_> java 2016-03-27T20:37:20 < Laurenceb_> thats your problem 2016-03-27T20:37:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-27T20:38:19 < Laurenceb_> lol ReadError I never noticed the piss before 2016-03-27T20:38:45 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-27T20:38:52 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ hhaha same 2016-03-27T20:38:57 < ReadError> shit had me rollin 2016-03-27T20:39:10 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T21:04:18 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T21:11:58 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T21:12:32 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-27T21:22:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-27T21:23:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T21:24:05 < kakimir> ReadError: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KIKrSG-Xzc 2016-03-27T21:24:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-27T21:24:16 < kakimir> dongs: why you java? 2016-03-27T21:24:33 < kakimir> and ain't it like 4am in jippon 2016-03-27T21:24:34 < Steffann> qyx, you used the ov2640 once and used dma/timer to get the jpeg output. Did you deliberately set the clock precaler as high as 20 to get useful output? 2016-03-27T21:25:09 < Steffann> ( i copy pasted your code, changed it do rgb565 output and tried to make it a bit faster by lowering that prescaler, but the result is terrible 2016-03-27T21:25:10 < Steffann> ) 2016-03-27T21:25:33 < Laurenceb_> TIL I can never be part of /pol/ 2016-03-27T21:25:35 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/chH2b1k 2016-03-27T21:26:58 < kakimir> we had spontanious RC flight day 2016-03-27T21:27:07 < kakimir> 3 friends taught how to fly 2016-03-27T21:27:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.51] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T21:39:59 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T21:41:48 < PaulFertser> kakimir: rc flight what? 2016-03-27T21:42:47 < kakimir> day 2016-03-27T21:42:52 < kakimir> you know 2016-03-27T21:42:58 < kakimir> planes 2016-03-27T21:43:00 < kakimir> radios 2016-03-27T21:43:03 < kakimir> trainer cables 2016-03-27T21:43:20 < kakimir> a can full of batteries 2016-03-27T21:43:29 < PaulFertser> kakimir: there're also helis and copters, not only planes, that's why I'm asking. 2016-03-27T21:43:54 < kakimir> oh 2016-03-27T21:43:57 < kakimir> well 2016-03-27T21:44:11 < kakimir> like you would teach like that your friend fly some copter 2016-03-27T21:45:05 < kakimir> planes are the shiet 2016-03-27T21:45:49 < kakimir> pick it up after crash patch it super quick and back to flying 2016-03-27T21:45:51 < PaulFertser> I've seen folks flying planes today. One had a 100cm^3 petrol engine. 2016-03-27T21:46:12 < Steffann> the sound must have been nice PaulFertser 2016-03-27T21:46:24 < Steffann> *noise 2016-03-27T21:46:26 < kakimir> doing 350kmh? 2016-03-27T21:47:07 < PaulFertser> Steffann: alas, it didn't fly, by the time I arrived it was packed in a car and I was told it refused to fly today. 2016-03-27T21:47:18 < Steffann> oh, oops 2016-03-27T21:47:27 < Steffann> Too bad 2016-03-27T21:47:30 < PaulFertser> Opposit engine, like BMW :) 2016-03-27T21:48:10 < kakimir> some local dude has petrol plane that does 280kmh or so 2016-03-27T21:49:28 < PaulFertser> The guys told me planes are way easier to fly than helis. 2016-03-27T21:49:57 < kakimir> no shit 2016-03-27T21:50:17 < kakimir> you fly the plane like in GTA 2016-03-27T21:50:28 < kakimir> but you don't definitelly fly copter like in GTA 2016-03-27T21:54:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-27T21:56:59 < jadew> ohsix, the bird was a nice touch 2016-03-27T21:57:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T22:03:24 < kakimir> is there a specific need to declare a pointer? 2016-03-27T22:03:33 < kakimir> why not just use uint32_t ? 2016-03-27T22:04:30 < kakimir> is it for making more sane code that can raise errors incase you do stupid stuff? 2016-03-27T22:10:16 < jadew> kakimir, what do you mean? 2016-03-27T22:10:36 < jpa-> one pretty good reason is that a pointer is incremented in multiples of the base type size 2016-03-27T22:11:07 < kakimir> oh it is? 2016-03-27T22:11:12 < kakimir> good to know 2016-03-27T22:11:19 < jpa-> so that int a[99]; int *b = a; b[1] indexing works like you expect, instead of pointing just 1 byte from the beginning 2016-03-27T22:12:07 < jadew> obviously the compiler treats a pointer differently than a number 2016-03-27T22:12:10 < kakimir> yes that indexing 2016-03-27T22:12:10 < jpa-> another pretty good reason is to make casting etc. work correctly, e.g. between int / float / etc. arrays 2016-03-27T22:12:15 < kakimir> but 2016-03-27T22:12:24 < kakimir> how about ++ ? 2016-03-27T22:12:28 < jpa-> it's the same 2016-03-27T22:12:35 < jpa-> x[y] is defined as *(x + y) 2016-03-27T22:12:48 < kakimir> oh 2016-03-27T22:12:54 < kakimir> sweet 2016-03-27T22:14:57 < kakimir> it seems my code wont let me declare pointer directly 2016-03-27T22:15:30 < kakimir> like type *pointer = address+indez 2016-03-27T22:15:49 < kakimir> maybe because index is in.. 16bit format 2016-03-27T22:15:55 < jpa-> you need to cast 2016-03-27T22:16:02 < jpa-> if address is just an integer 2016-03-27T22:16:15 < jadew> you need to reinterpret_cast 2016-03-27T22:16:34 < Steffann> but that is c++.. 2016-03-27T22:16:51 < kakimir> I do address[index] maybe and I need to cast that address too 2016-03-27T22:17:00 < jadew> why would anyone use plain C? 2016-03-27T22:17:09 < kakimir> because still the best 2016-03-27T22:17:11 < kakimir> simple 2016-03-27T22:17:20 < jadew> it has a lot of limitations 2016-03-27T22:17:31 < kakimir> so do the systems you make with it 2016-03-27T22:17:33 < jadew> which shouldn't be there 2016-03-27T22:17:45 < kakimir> it's all limited and good 2016-03-27T22:18:34 < kakimir> my guru has cry about that excess bit some operations output 2016-03-27T22:18:50 < kakimir> that you can't really use it directly like in asm 2016-03-27T22:18:59 < jpa-> the reason why Laurenceb_'s voice is so high: http://cdn.x2n.com.br/~naomesmo/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/songo.gif 2016-03-27T22:18:59 < jadew> ? 2016-03-27T22:19:11 < kakimir> but I don't know what else limitations there is 2016-03-27T22:19:27 < jadew> lol jpa- 2016-03-27T22:19:43 < Laurenceb_> my voice is high?! 2016-03-27T22:19:45 < jadew> kakimir, for example in C you can't have the same function name with different parameters 2016-03-27T22:19:55 < kakimir> didn't know that 2016-03-27T22:20:00 < jadew> C++ allows you and the code is not different at all 2016-03-27T22:20:18 < kakimir> then just compile it as C++ 2016-03-27T22:20:23 < kakimir> and code as C 2016-03-27T22:20:33 < kakimir> what is the great deal about it? 2016-03-27T22:20:45 < jadew> that's what I was saying 2016-03-27T22:21:14 < kakimir> limitation that is not practically limitation is not limitation for me 2016-03-27T22:21:16 < jadew> even if you avoid some features from C++, there's no point in sticking strictly to C 2016-03-27T22:21:37 < kakimir> who does strict anyways? 2016-03-27T22:21:59 < jadew> well, if you're going to use the C compiler you won't be able to use the nice features of C++ 2016-03-27T22:22:27 < jadew> like having the same function name with different fingerprints 2016-03-27T22:22:53 < jpa-> and when you use overloading, you can no longer use the functions from C code easily 2016-03-27T22:23:01 < kakimir> the platform must be pretty niche if you don't get C++ compiler for it 2016-03-27T22:23:32 < kakimir> there is gnu compiler 2016-03-27T22:23:35 < kakimir> always 2016-03-27T22:23:44 < jpa-> "always" :D 2016-03-27T22:23:50 < kakimir> ye 2016-03-27T22:23:56 < kakimir> sometimes 2016-03-27T22:24:51 < jpa-> for portable libraries targeting embedded market, plain C is still the only choice.. otherwise you'll hit the first 8051 user pretty soon :) 2016-03-27T22:24:58 < kakimir> should I by the way cast _sdata and _estack as void pointers? 2016-03-27T22:25:12 < jpa-> cast? 2016-03-27T22:25:15 < jpa-> they are symbols 2016-03-27T22:25:22 < kakimir> *declare 2016-03-27T22:25:28 < jpa-> doesn't matter really 2016-03-27T22:26:03 < kakimir> if I can I will 2016-03-27T22:26:21 < kakimir> or uint8_t 2016-03-27T22:26:44 < jpa-> i usually declare them as uint32_t, but that is only because i like to do the copying in 4-byte blocks anyway 2016-03-27T22:26:47 < kakimir> I have index per byte 2016-03-27T22:26:58 < kakimir> and read per half word 2016-03-27T22:27:23 < kakimir> things should be alligned but anyways I have 4kilos or ram 2016-03-27T22:27:36 < kakimir> why not go per byte addressing 2016-03-27T22:27:55 < kakimir> in my spi ram probe 2016-03-27T22:32:50 < kakimir> I have command for next address 2016-03-27T22:33:09 < kakimir> so whole blocks come out efficiently 2016-03-27T22:37:09 -!- amstan [~alex@c-73-189-221-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T22:39:17 < kakimir> I wonder if data comes out in right order 2016-03-27T22:39:27 < kakimir> will see 2016-03-27T22:39:33 < kakimir> with test read 2016-03-27T22:42:43 < kakimir> can you do operations for void pointer like it was uint32_t ? 2016-03-27T22:43:03 < kakimir> variable 2016-03-27T22:43:33 < kakimir> let's see stackoverflow 2016-03-27T22:43:51 < kakimir> Final conclusion: arithmetic on a void* is illegal in both C and C++. 2016-03-27T22:43:54 < kakimir> okay 2016-03-27T22:44:04 < kakimir> then I need to uint8_t it 2016-03-27T22:53:41 < kakimir> I need to recast pointer when I want different size data than base value? 2016-03-27T22:53:55 < kakimir> base value 8bit, data 16bit 2016-03-27T22:56:19 < ohsix> dongs: ohh, dpad is a thing in a game controller too, nicing it up? 2016-03-27T23:13:06 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/Z7kjHNrG 2016-03-27T23:13:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-27T23:13:32 < kakimir> it says _estack and _sdata have undefined references 2016-03-27T23:16:19 < kakimir> okay 2016-03-27T23:16:32 < kakimir> because it has it's own shiet 2016-03-27T23:17:26 < kakimir> __base_RAM and __top_RAM 2016-03-27T23:19:31 < kakimir> it worked 2016-03-27T23:19:47 < kakimir> nice symbol names 2016-03-27T23:23:01 < kakimir> oh it requires (uint16_t *) 2016-03-27T23:23:03 < kakimir> got it 2016-03-27T23:23:57 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-152-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-27T23:31:52 -!- intart [~intart@190.167.19.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T23:40:55 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-27T23:44:34 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-27T23:56:43 < ohsix> heh there's more than one open source ecu thing that uses an stm32 2016-03-27T23:57:06 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-27T23:58:50 < zyp> ohsix, which? --- Day changed Mon Mar 28 2016 2016-03-28T00:01:34 < kakimir> interesting 2016-03-28T00:03:31 < Laurenceb_> I'd like to get into car mods 2016-03-28T00:03:53 < Laurenceb_> want to make a diesel run on CNG, what would be fun 2016-03-28T00:05:01 < kakimir> why have you not dones it? 2016-03-28T00:06:06 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-28T00:11:09 < ohsix> and ends up mangling symbols to do it and bringing in a bunch of new type conversion/matching rules 12:19 < jadew> kakimir, for example in C you can't have the same function name with different parameters 2016-03-28T00:11:51 < ohsix> zyp: rusefi / openecu 2016-03-28T00:12:18 < ohsix> diesel on cng? ehhhh 2016-03-28T00:12:38 < ohsix> you could probably do it but it's completely different operating principle 2016-03-28T00:12:55 < ohsix> diesel uses pressure to set off the fuel 2016-03-28T00:13:44 < ohsix> gas engines with sparks you can just get the stochiometry right and it'll burn anything with a low vapor pressure 2016-03-28T00:13:56 < ohsix> or a gas 2016-03-28T00:14:28 < ohsix> zyp: har nm openecu doesn't do anything 2016-03-28T00:19:40 < kakimir> you don't need to reinvent the wheel 2016-03-28T00:19:58 < kakimir> set fuel ecu to pilot only 2016-03-28T00:20:21 < kakimir> control power with CNG ecu 2016-03-28T00:25:36 < ohsix> . 2016-03-28T00:25:54 < ohsix> all the fuel/air metering will be wrong 2016-03-28T00:28:21 < kakimir> maybe you could read values from original ecu 2016-03-28T00:29:39 < ohsix> there are no original values for cng 2016-03-28T00:30:07 < kakimir> CNG ecu being just a calibration unit 2016-03-28T00:31:07 < aandrew> what? 2016-03-28T00:31:15 < aandrew> diesel running propane? 2016-03-28T00:32:24 < ohsix> https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/tree/master/firmware/controllers 2016-03-28T00:32:54 < kakimir> after being passed thru those tables in original equ the value would be corrected for CNG in CNG ecu so there is no conciderations about one equ doing one thing and another doing something else 2016-03-28T00:35:36 < aandrew> will CNG detonate from pressure alone? 2016-03-28T00:35:54 < kakimir> 00:19 < kakimir> set fuel ecu to pilot only 2016-03-28T00:36:52 < aandrew> hah I like the STM32Discovery sitting in the box on their wiki 2016-03-28T00:42:01 < kakimir> is there ecus for direct injection? 2016-03-28T00:42:12 < Sync> yes 2016-03-28T00:44:51 < Laurenceb_> sigh 2016-03-28T00:45:03 < Laurenceb_> you use diesel in place of a spark plug 2016-03-28T00:45:16 < Laurenceb_> air/natural gas mix goes into engine 2016-03-28T00:45:33 < Laurenceb_> natural gas has crazy high octane number so it doesnt detonate 2016-03-28T00:45:46 < Laurenceb_> then diesel is injected and burns the natural gas 2016-03-28T00:46:00 < Laurenceb_> usually you run on around 15% or so of the normal diesel burn 2016-03-28T00:46:22 < Laurenceb_> so most of the energy is from the gas, but efficiency is much higher than petrol running on natural gas 2016-03-28T00:46:43 < Laurenceb_> and you have more flexibility to throttle by varying the amount of gas / using EGR 2016-03-28T00:57:39 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/foXDcOG 2016-03-28T00:59:07 -!- garfong [~garfong@208.167.254.205] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-28T00:59:30 < aandrew> oh I see so it's kind of a hybrid diesel/CNG 2016-03-28T00:59:48 < Sync> > egr Laurenceb_ 2016-03-28T00:59:50 < Sync> pls. 2016-03-28T00:59:56 < Sync> who needs fuel efficiency 2016-03-28T01:00:03 < Sync> everybody loves throttlebody losses 2016-03-28T01:01:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T01:05:22 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-28T01:05:30 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T01:06:04 < Laurenceb_> dunno how low you could get the diesel use, would be interesting to experiment with off the shelf car and custom ECU 2016-03-28T01:06:29 < Laurenceb_> but it should have slightly higher overall efficiency and much cheaper fuel than a diesel 2016-03-28T01:06:40 < Laurenceb_> maybe as little as 25% of the running costs 2016-03-28T01:07:38 < Laurenceb_> prob ~40% cheaper than an EV 2016-03-28T01:07:48 < Laurenceb_> and no battery costs 2016-03-28T01:08:24 < kakimir> how you buy CNG to car? 2016-03-28T01:08:50 < kakimir> here using gasonous stuff for anything but grill is really uncommon 2016-03-28T01:09:25 < Laurenceb_> mains gas -> compressor -> tank 2016-03-28T01:09:39 < kakimir> you need gas connection? 2016-03-28T01:09:57 < kakimir> CNG bus would be nice motorhome 2016-03-28T01:10:08 < ohsix> motorbutts 2016-03-28T01:10:12 < kakimir> there is CNG busses in south cities 2016-03-28T01:10:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-28T01:11:02 < Laurenceb_> they sometimes use diesel engine with modifications 2016-03-28T01:11:28 < Laurenceb_> other advantage is it's "multifuel" so can be refuelled from conventional fuel stations if it runs out of gas 2016-03-28T01:11:51 < kakimir> http://biomode.fi/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2013/11/KaasuverkostoSuomi.png 2016-03-28T01:12:40 < kakimir> or whateven gas that is butane/propane 2016-03-28T01:13:32 < ohsix> what do you call gas when one of the gasses is a gas 2016-03-28T01:13:46 < kakimir> you mean gas? 2016-03-28T01:14:41 < zyp> ohsix, why the fuck would you call a liquid «gas» in the first place? 2016-03-28T01:14:51 < kakimir> known as petrol outside of North America 2016-03-28T01:14:59 < Sync> zyp: because that is how it is 2016-03-28T01:14:59 < ohsix> dunno, but the word games don't work if you don't 2016-03-28T01:15:06 < kakimir> you kinda get answer in that 2016-03-28T01:15:49 < Laurenceb_> because murica 2016-03-28T01:15:53 < Sync> well, lng is actually common here 2016-03-28T01:16:13 < Sync> but not in diesels 2016-03-28T01:16:22 < Sync> as it is a pain in the dick to tune with regular ecus 2016-03-28T01:16:37 < Sync> on petrol engines you just yolo it into the intake and be done 2016-03-28T01:19:05 < ohsix> you can fart in the intake and it'll keep going 2016-03-28T01:19:18 < ohsix> wont burn its own oil though 2016-03-28T01:20:39 < Steffann> i see a business case 2016-03-28T01:21:51 < Sync> fart2intake adapters? 2016-03-28T01:22:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283054/ 2016-03-28T01:22:41 < kakimir> poor people need to keep farts inside 2016-03-28T01:28:16 < ohsix> jadew: nope, didn't fix it; if youtube is playing shit is fuuuuuucked 2016-03-28T01:30:12 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@182.148.36.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-28T01:31:41 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@182.148.36.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T01:53:54 -!- amstan [~alex@c-73-189-221-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-03-28T01:55:52 -!- intart [~intart@190.167.19.248] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-28T01:56:43 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-28T01:57:20 < kakimir> http://www.daveoncode.com/2009/08/25/eclipse-shortcut-switch-convert-uppercase-text-cod-lowercase/ 2016-03-28T02:05:08 -!- obnauticus [~obnauticu@unaffiliated/obnauticus] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-28T02:13:36 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T02:15:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-28T02:21:56 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T02:27:36 < kakimir> uint16_t *data2 = &(reception->spi_reception_data_part2);//Pointer to data2 2016-03-28T02:27:40 < kakimir> is this okay? 2016-03-28T02:28:15 < kakimir> reception being pointer passed as parameter 2016-03-28T02:28:20 < kakimir> *a parameter 2016-03-28T02:28:33 < kakimir> *a pointer 2016-03-28T02:33:54 < ohsix> if it compiles it's ok but it probably doesn't do what you want 2016-03-28T02:33:59 < ohsix> you don't need & 2016-03-28T02:34:11 < ohsix> just use reception.spi_receptionwhatever 2016-03-28T02:34:15 < ohsix> -> dereferences it 2016-03-28T02:35:07 < kakimir> oh 2016-03-28T02:35:43 < ohsix> er 2016-03-28T02:36:06 < ohsix> 'it' being the lhs 2016-03-28T02:36:55 < ohsix> if spi_reception_data is a pointer or array then its value is that, if it's a basic type like int you'll need to dereference it 2016-03-28T02:37:33 < kakimir> I need pointer to single variable inside a struct type instance 2016-03-28T02:37:36 < ohsix> fun on a bun 2016-03-28T02:37:59 < ohsix> without the parenthesis i think that is what happens there 2016-03-28T02:38:25 < kakimir> I want to short this reception->spi_reception_data_part2 2016-03-28T02:38:27 < kakimir> as 2016-03-28T02:38:28 < kakimir> data2 2016-03-28T02:38:54 < ohsix> you can always check in gdb that *data (dereferencing it) equals the member value 2016-03-28T02:40:06 < ohsix> they should have been consistent and called it depointering ;] 2016-03-28T02:40:10 < kakimir> I'm not that good with gdb 2016-03-28T02:40:33 < ohsix> there's a loonix command called cdecl that will say in plain english what an expression doessssssssssssssssss 2016-03-28T02:41:21 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnyiwyjpevccvkgn] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T02:42:05 < kakimir> not in looniz 2016-03-28T02:42:47 < ohsix> cdecl 2016-03-28T02:43:01 < kakimir> I have winlulz 2016-03-28T02:43:20 < ohsix> it's online somewhere, cdecl.org or something 2016-03-28T02:44:04 < ohsix> won't do -> without some type definitions so it's probably not smart enough 2016-03-28T02:44:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-28T02:48:04 < jadew> sorry, just woke up after a quick nap 2016-03-28T02:48:07 < jadew> ohsix? 2016-03-28T02:49:50 < ohsix> windows network junk 2016-03-28T02:49:54 < ohsix> that patch 2016-03-28T02:50:04 < jadew> ah, right 2016-03-28T02:50:10 < jadew> sorry to hear that 2016-03-28T02:50:17 < ohsix> me2 2016-03-28T02:50:17 < jadew> I wonder if it's still an issue on windows 2016-03-28T02:50:20 < jadew> windows 10 2016-03-28T02:50:31 < ohsix> if it is something automatic it probably is 2016-03-28T02:50:41 < jadew> what are the steps to reproduce? 2016-03-28T02:51:08 < ohsix> have youtube playing (there are probably other media related triggers) and try and copy a file over the lan 2016-03-28T02:51:16 < jadew> k 2016-03-28T02:51:28 < jadew> do I start copying before or after youtube? 2016-03-28T02:51:30 < ohsix> i thought it might be how bursty/close youtube is with isp caching, but it stops doing it when you pause 2016-03-28T02:51:41 < ohsix> you can do it at any time, pause youtube and it will speed up 2016-03-28T02:51:54 < ohsix> go to the resource monitor, network tab, you can see smb io in System 2016-03-28T02:53:28 < ohsix> i use 'pv' /dev/zero > /path/to/smb/thing 2016-03-28T02:53:45 < ohsix> just sends zeros to a file until the disk fills up and says how fast it is doing it 2016-03-28T02:54:47 < ohsix> oh huhh dang 2016-03-28T02:54:53 < ohsix> resource monitor doesn't update fast enough i guess 2016-03-28T02:54:57 < dongs> didnt know samba ran on STM32 2016-03-28T02:55:04 < jadew> the only thing I have on lan right now is a slow HDD 2016-03-28T02:55:06 < dongs> did you port it? 2016-03-28T02:55:09 < jadew> that can do 13 Mb/s tops 2016-03-28T02:55:11 < ohsix> it was what i was using earlier to find out it was broke ... it isn't, it's working 2016-03-28T02:55:16 < jadew> and it doesn't seem to be bothered by youtube 2016-03-28T02:55:41 < ohsix> the 'pv' test is unaffected, it dips to like 9MB/s for a few seconds when youtube is burst loading 2016-03-28T02:56:15 < ohsix> heh hm 2016-03-28T02:56:26 < ohsix> you know my computer isn't new, i wo nder if there's enough cpu use for it to matter 2016-03-28T02:56:39 < jadew> I had the same thought earlier 2016-03-28T02:56:53 < jadew> it is possible that some resource on your PC is just getting maxed out 2016-03-28T02:56:57 < ohsix> system is using ~12% while pv is running 2016-03-28T02:57:01 < ohsix> chrome is negligable 2016-03-28T02:57:15 < ohsix> let me find a 4k video that i know it can't play ;D 2016-03-28T02:57:38 < ohsix> dongs: didn't you post some 4k video of something 2016-03-28T02:57:55 < jadew> ohsix, you can find them on youtube 2016-03-28T02:58:07 < ohsix> i no 2016-03-28T02:58:07 < jadew> just search for 4k demo 2016-03-28T02:58:12 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-28T02:58:49 < ohsix> heh actually have to let it buffer 2016-03-28T02:59:36 < ohsix> yea that's not a useful test 2016-03-28T02:59:39 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UceRgEyfSsc neat video tho 2016-03-28T03:00:26 < ohsix> well 2016-03-28T03:00:34 < ohsix> if it isn't cpu it looks like i could blame it on thattttttttttttttttttt just the same 2016-03-28T03:01:07 < ohsix> 720p60fps plays at 60fps but basically uses all of one core and the pv 'test' stays at a nice low 12-15MB/s 2016-03-28T03:01:34 < ohsix> that patch did remove whatever was automatically happening before tho, the auto tuning congestion crap 2016-03-28T03:02:42 < ohsix> yea, i was just reading resource monitor wrong, the averaging period must be more than a minute 2016-03-28T03:03:50 < ohsix> samba is really chatty, would probably go even faster if i used something else 2016-03-28T03:06:37 < ohsix> the usb3 drive i have is like 4x faster than my internal drives, even new ones ;D 2016-03-28T03:07:41 < jadew> move them all on USB :P 2016-03-28T03:08:00 < ohsix> dongs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_0 2016-03-28T03:10:26 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-03-28T03:15:34 < kakimir> you need ip over pidgeons 2016-03-28T03:15:45 < kakimir> packet loss 50% 2016-03-28T03:15:56 < kakimir> delay: very muh 2016-03-28T03:16:26 < ohsix> you can do it with a barcode and an LED olol 2016-03-28T03:18:52 < Thorn> looks like a surprisingly competent lab psu design http://radiokot.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=59168 2016-03-28T03:20:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T03:21:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T03:23:03 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-28T03:24:11 < kakimir> how do I mark function pointer having a pointer as a parameter? 2016-03-28T03:24:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9debe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-28T03:24:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T03:24:55 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-28T03:25:03 < kakimir> void (*funcpointer)(*parametertype?) 2016-03-28T03:25:32 < kakimir> *parameterpointerbasetype 2016-03-28T03:25:36 < dongs> what 2016-03-28T03:25:51 < Thorn> void (*funcpointer)(void*) 2016-03-28T03:25:52 < dongs> the () part of function pointer is same as you'd declare any function 2016-03-28T03:26:07 < dongs> so (struct cocks *, int, char *) 2016-03-28T03:26:08 < Thorn> or int* etc. 2016-03-28T03:26:08 < dongs> or etc. 2016-03-28T03:26:29 < kakimir> hmm Thorn actually I did that but my type was defined after the pointer :/ 2016-03-28T03:26:35 < kakimir> sorry my bad 2016-03-28T03:26:48 < dongs> forward declare it then, and stop writing shit code 2016-03-28T03:26:52 < kakimir> void (*spi_reception_handler_fp)(Spi_Reception*); 2016-03-28T03:27:13 < dongs> dont you wanna know result of your spi reception? 2016-03-28T03:27:55 < kakimir> no 2016-03-28T03:27:56 < Thorn> spi reception has been canceled. no spies showed up 2016-03-28T03:28:01 < kakimir> it mess with global variable 2016-03-28T03:28:09 < dongs> sounds like some pro coding 2016-03-28T03:28:18 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-28T03:28:33 < kakimir> yes why not use global transmission variable 2016-03-28T03:28:55 < kakimir> it would be the same for all reception handlers 2016-03-28T03:29:00 < kakimir> if there was more than 1 2016-03-28T03:30:24 < kakimir> everything else needed is in Spi_Reception type instance 2016-03-28T03:30:49 < kakimir> flags and datas for 1, 2 and 3 part transmissions 2016-03-28T03:30:56 < kakimir> *commands 2016-03-28T03:34:42 < ohsix> wat, if i use an mkv file instead of /dev/zero it does 3MB/s 2016-03-28T03:35:01 < kakimir> instead of what speed? 2016-03-28T03:35:13 < ohsix> and it's not the drive cuz if i send it to /dev/null disk reads like 80MB/s 2016-03-28T03:35:20 < ohsix> ~45MB/s+ 2016-03-28T03:35:57 < kakimir> what are you using that /dev/zero for? 2016-03-28T03:36:14 < ohsix> nm 2016-03-28T03:38:04 < dongs> zyp, hjoow many nfcfail do you need 2016-03-28T03:38:06 < dongs> same as last time? 2016-03-28T03:38:34 < dongs> zyp: and do you wanna wait to panel with something if there's space or jsut order 2016-03-28T03:41:15 < ohsix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15529593/ what is going onnn 2016-03-28T03:48:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-28T03:48:06 < ohsix> k it does it if i play a video in mpc too; what the hell 2016-03-28T03:48:11 < dongs> try in #ubunto 2016-03-28T03:48:28 < dongs> or #lunix4niggers 2016-03-28T03:48:39 < ohsix> this is windows bruv 2016-03-28T03:50:12 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-03-28T03:51:05 < kakimir> big bill be watching 2016-03-28T03:51:09 < ohsix> oh shit 2016-03-28T03:51:11 < ohsix> it's the audio 2016-03-28T03:51:34 < kakimir> talk shiet about lunix and good about windows 2016-03-28T03:53:18 < dongs> wow visualmicro is cheap 2016-03-28T03:53:20 < dongs> and paypal 2016-03-28T03:53:38 < dongs> where's R2COM i think he bought that 2016-03-28T03:54:44 < kakimir> oh it's time to sleep> 2016-03-28T03:55:01 < karlp> fucking "usb3" thumb drive shits. 7MB/sec. average on ~400meg files. 2016-03-28T03:55:03 < karlp> fucking worthless 2016-03-28T03:55:10 < dongs> karlp: lul. stop buying garbage. 2016-03-28T03:55:24 < dongs> i paid more than $10 for a 32gb usb3 drive and i get 200meg reads and like 90meg writes 2016-03-28T03:55:31 < kakimir> karlp: hah you fool 2016-03-28T03:56:12 < dongs> which of you pros uses visualmicro 2016-03-28T03:56:39 < dongs> Republic of Gays branded 2016-03-28T03:57:19 < dongs> hmm i thought it was some generic cortex development thing that used vstudio 2016-03-28T03:57:45 < dongs> i thought thats wat this was, checking again 2016-03-28T03:57:49 < dongs> oh visualgdb 2016-03-28T03:58:44 < dongs> oh, and it s free 2016-03-28T03:58:46 < dongs> even better. 2016-03-28T03:59:52 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@9600-baud.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T04:02:29 < dongs> oh theres a buy link 2016-03-28T04:02:31 < dongs> fuckin scammers 2016-03-28T04:02:34 < Laurenceb_> lol my stm32 mass stoRAGE manages 1.1MB/sec 2016-03-28T04:02:49 < karlp> oh, it's super fast "at first" 2016-03-28T04:02:55 < karlp> then massively slows down 2016-03-28T04:03:00 < karlp> clearly buffering on the device. 2016-03-28T04:03:06 < dongs> thats just windows caching shit to memory 2016-03-28T04:04:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T04:04:52 < karlp> no, and it's not loonix either, I can see where ti's using cpu and iotop shows actual writes, 2016-03-28T04:04:56 < karlp> http://www.corsair.com/en-us/flash-voyager-vega-usb-3-0-64gb-flash-drive << junk 2016-03-28T04:05:44 < dongs> no data rate specs 2016-03-28T04:05:46 < dongs> insta-oven 2016-03-28T04:06:16 < karlp> was just cheap and the last one I'd lent out was nto returned. 2016-03-28T04:06:26 < karlp> it's ~same speed as an older usb2 stick I had 2016-03-28T04:07:33 < dongs> http://www.sony.jp/rec-media/products/USM-QX/spec.html 2016-03-28T04:07:45 < dongs> USM32GQX、USM64GQX、USM128GQX：226MB/s reads 2016-03-28T04:07:54 < dongs> writes are like 90megs ish 2016-03-28T04:08:07 < dongs> not much more expensive than that corsaids trash either. 2016-03-28T04:08:36 < ohsix> corsair was kind of bad before there was a usb3 2016-03-28T04:08:44 < karlp> dongs: not available locally, but yeah, sure, 2016-03-28T04:08:54 < karlp> just hate how the specs and revies are all like, "yeah, works good" 2016-03-28T04:09:02 < karlp> "get fucked you fucking scammer arsewholes 2016-03-28T04:09:02 < dongs> karlp: amazon says 120meg reads 23meg writes 2016-03-28T04:09:06 < dongs> on your usb shit 2016-03-28T04:09:09 < dongs> you sure its not your lunix failing? 2016-03-28T04:09:09 < ohsix> yaman 2016-03-28T04:09:18 < karlp> doubt it, reads are super fast. 2016-03-28T04:09:21 < ohsix> most people aren't writing 500mb files to a flash drive and nobody tests that 2016-03-28T04:09:24 < ohsix> it's the same with sd/tf 2016-03-28T04:09:37 < dongs> i write > 10gb files on the sony stick all the time 2016-03-28T04:09:40 < ohsix> it needs to accept like 32MB of stuff into som ebuffer and tell the host is done 2016-03-28T04:09:43 < karlp> ohsix: what lese would you fucking do? movies and episodes are kinda what I want to write to disk 2016-03-28T04:09:47 < ohsix> +it 2016-03-28T04:09:49 < dongs> and it sustains 90megs throughout 2016-03-28T04:09:59 < ohsix> karlp: me2, frankly all i would 2016-03-28T04:10:04 < ohsix> and every drive i've had has sucked 2016-03-28T04:10:26 < ohsix> the flash io rates aren't good and there isn't enough memory on the controller to do much with the sustained write rates 2016-03-28T04:13:36 < PeterM> if its over 50mb/s is probably good enough for me, and i usually get 16gb drives, i'd prefer have like 10 drives randomly floating around that i can grab than have one big drive that i can never find 2016-03-28T04:14:09 < ohsix> the ones i've used will do 25MB/s for the first 20MB or so, then hover around 1MB/s 2016-03-28T04:14:39 < ohsix> the ones i suspected were fake would do a few k a second, but they weren't fake :< 2016-03-28T04:15:11 < ohsix> ya BRO 2016-03-28T04:15:27 < ohsix> i didn't buy them, they were promotional things 2016-03-28T04:18:21 < Laurenceb_> You should aspire to struggle in all facets of life. 2016-03-28T04:18:21 < Laurenceb_> Why else would I use a VIM-like browser and GNU/Linux? 2016-03-28T04:18:38 < Laurenceb_> >>5566076 2016-03-28T04:18:39 < Laurenceb_> Why not sell all your possessions and move to some third world country and be homeless? 2016-03-28T04:18:41 < Laurenceb_> lulling 2016-03-28T04:19:34 < dongs> heh 2016-03-28T04:19:47 < dongs> i had pretty good luck with this$5-ish USB3>2.5" hdd dongle thing 2016-03-28T04:20:05 < dongs> its molded plastic thing with all the parts inside so i dont know what is in it but it works ok 2016-03-28T04:20:12 < dongs> actually get >100meg/sec reads so i dont mind 2016-03-28T04:20:31 < PeterM> yeah, all it needs is an xtal, a 3v3 regulator, some caps adn the usb3->sata chip 2016-03-28T04:20:38 < dongs> http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_272022_1.jpg 2016-03-28T04:20:40 < dongs> this chink shit 2016-03-28T04:21:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T04:21:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-28T04:26:15 < dongs> was original from dx too 2016-03-28T04:34:51 < dongs> doesnt lecroy have some scam where more channels rip from bandwidth 2016-03-28T04:35:00 < dongs> 1ch is 1ghz, but 4ch is like 256mhz 2016-03-28T04:35:35 < dongs> is that a fucking receipt pritner on teh top 2016-03-28T04:40:00 < dongs> i'll sell you my DPO4034 2016-03-28T04:40:05 < dongs> with 4 probes 2016-03-28T04:42:51 < dongs> replaced with MDO4104-6 2016-03-28T04:44:20 < dongs> yeah it has LCD screen bigger than ohsix's laptop 2016-03-28T04:51:04 < jadew> I woudln't mind a MDO either, except I don't really need it 2016-03-28T04:51:57 < ohsix> dongs: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo 2016-03-28T04:52:22 < dongs> ohsix, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now on. 2016-03-28T05:05:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-28T05:05:42 < Laurenceb_> https://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/03/27/1740212/researcher-measures-brain-reactions-to-donald-trump 2016-03-28T05:22:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T05:37:59 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-28T05:46:51 < Laurenceb_> so where is this famous open ECU? 2016-03-28T05:47:05 < Laurenceb_> I see rusefi but its ancient and unfinished 2016-03-28T05:53:36 < dongs> my efnet pal is doing a closed one that actually works 2016-03-28T05:53:50 < dongs> he's selling it or somsehit, i just halp arrange production 2016-03-28T05:54:07 < dongs> open stuff = usually unfinished aids 2016-03-28T05:55:56 < Laurenceb_> this looks finished http://pi-innovo.com/product/#advantages 2016-03-28T05:56:02 < Laurenceb_> unclear how open it really is 2016-03-28T05:56:07 < Laurenceb_> also simulink aids 2016-03-28T05:56:38 < PeterM> >rugged 2016-03-28T05:56:47 < Laurenceb_> ooh http://pi-innovo.com/downloads/ 2016-03-28T05:57:01 < Laurenceb_> looks like freeware/freemium or something 2016-03-28T05:57:09 < dongs> "Chinese"? 2016-03-28T05:57:09 < Laurenceb_> quite nice apart from the simulink aids 2016-03-28T05:57:25 < dongs> Pisnoop? 2016-03-28T05:57:26 < dongs> what hte ufck 2016-03-28T05:57:29 < dongs> they run it on aspieberrypi? 2016-03-28T05:57:40 < Laurenceb_> lul GNU GCC as a download 2016-03-28T05:58:03 < dongs> looks like complete fucking aids 2016-03-28T05:58:58 < Laurenceb_> ah Cambridge UK 2016-03-28T05:59:00 < Laurenceb_> britfags 2016-03-28T05:59:04 < dongs> processor MPC5674F 2016-03-28T05:59:18 < dongs> oh what the hell more powerpc garbage 2016-03-28T05:59:31 < Laurenceb_> everyone in this country seems to be obsessed with simulink and labview 2016-03-28T05:59:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@96.81.152.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T06:00:39 < Laurenceb_> CUNTry 2016-03-28T06:01:03 < dongs> hm yea all thier shit is some NXP powerpc thing 2016-03-28T06:01:38 < Laurenceb_> I think ST have a clone of that 2016-03-28T06:01:50 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/integrated-circuits-ics/embedded-microcontrollers/2556109?k=MPC5534 2016-03-28T06:01:53 < dongs> "low cost" 2016-03-28T06:02:00 < dongs> wtf so many pins 2016-03-28T06:02:07 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@96.81.152.158] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-28T06:02:23 < Laurenceb_> BGA in an ECU 2016-03-28T06:02:29 < Laurenceb_> wtf thats going to go wrong 2016-03-28T06:02:37 < dongs> should be dip? 2016-03-28T06:02:42 < Laurenceb_> maybe they could flood it with epoxy, apple style 2016-03-28T06:02:54 < PeterM> thermal cyclying with fuck it 2016-03-28T06:03:00 < PeterM> even if epoxy filled 2016-03-28T06:05:00 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-03-28T06:05:42 < ohsix> none of these letters look like stm32 in some sort of arrangement or agglomeration 2016-03-28T06:06:41 < ohsix> dongs: i'm meeting drano in a few hours, wat should i do 2016-03-28T06:18:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-39-4.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T06:25:47 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-150-180.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T06:31:43 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-28T06:54:54 < ohsix> oog crimzon clover is ossumm 2016-03-28T06:55:54 < ohsix> don't even like those games but it's got a progressive difficulty mode that lets you have fun 2016-03-28T07:01:06 < englishman> what is the point of a new, closedsores ecu these days 2016-03-28T07:01:14 < englishman> motec is dirt cheap, does everything and actually works 2016-03-28T07:01:48 < englishman> theres already overpriced amateur shit that sucks, like pectel 2016-03-28T07:02:10 < ohsix> so you can draw all that business to yourself and you can talk shit about open source stuff 2016-03-28T07:02:15 < ohsix> you only have to be slightly better 2016-03-28T07:03:02 < englishman> better than what? 2016-03-28T07:03:16 < ohsix> the open source ones 2016-03-28T07:03:22 < ohsix> 'the point of a new closed source ecu' 2016-03-28T07:03:44 < ohsix> you could do that without being closed source but you won't direct all of the support to yourself 2016-03-28T07:25:32 < ohsix> then you start trolling on the tuner forums 2016-03-28T07:25:35 < ohsix> you win business 2016-03-28T07:36:53 < dongs> clear 2016-03-28T07:36:56 < ohsix> :[ 2016-03-28T07:36:58 < dongs> fucking useless spam 2016-03-28T07:37:14 < ohsix> i could just leave, i don't know if you're trolling or wat 2016-03-28T07:37:28 < ohsix> i liked exchanging pictures of junk shops tho 2016-03-28T07:37:29 < ohsix> 4real 2016-03-28T07:40:17 < ohsix> i wouldn't have been looking at that window if drano didn't just say 'wtf is snow' and cancel 2016-03-28T07:40:25 < ohsix> so alone 2016-03-28T07:44:46 < ohsix> dongs more like DPNGS, or DPRKS 2016-03-28T07:58:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-28T07:59:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T08:08:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:47f:2fbf:fb32:885c] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T08:11:57 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@182.148.36.48] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-28T08:16:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T08:26:47 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-28T08:41:58 < ohsix> heh during this testing i wrote like 200gb over the network, and it didn't take days, that's pretty awesome 2016-03-28T09:05:58 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-28T09:13:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Basic-watch-pcb-copy-redesign/ 2016-03-28T09:14:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/BTC-miner-development/ haha 2016-03-28T09:14:57 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Manufacture-Product-for-10061994/ 2016-03-28T09:16:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-28T09:17:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-routing-for-open-hardware/ haha, TOFE/HDMI2USB guy is l ooking for someone to do the hard work of actually doing something serious in kikecad 2016-03-28T09:18:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-28T09:20:17 < ohsix> little late to the show for bitcoin 2016-03-28T09:20:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T09:20:47 < dongs> china has it solved already. 2016-03-28T09:22:21 < dongs> if an indian could develop a 10th/sec miner for $450 2016-03-28T09:22:25 < dongs> he would just do that instead. 2016-03-28T09:22:32 < dongs> of bidding $450 on feelancer. 2016-03-28T09:24:42 < ohsix> has nothing to do with nationality or anything 2016-03-28T09:25:42 < ohsix> bitcoin isn't quite dead, but to get into it now to make miner asics, it's just scaling them out and there are/were people already doing that, they'd have to do something extraordinary 2016-03-28T09:29:25 < dongs> you could do buttcoin on stm32 2016-03-28T09:29:29 < dongs> very slowly. 2016-03-28T09:29:35 < dongs> just for lols. 2016-03-28T09:29:57 < ohsix> aren't there ones with sha acceleration instructions 2016-03-28T09:30:22 < dongs> probly not in a way that can be used for buttcoin? no idea 2016-03-28T09:34:42 < upgrdman> more NXP bullshit. lpc1768 has one spi and two ssp periph's. ssp is like their decent version of spi. the "spi" periph can't do dma and does not even have a FUCKING TX FIFO. 2016-03-28T09:35:02 < upgrdman> so a 100pin mcu with two usably spi periphs. wtf. 2016-03-28T09:36:11 < dongs> it gets better 2016-03-28T09:36:21 < dongs> BGA version is onl rated for 100mhz 2016-03-28T09:36:23 < dongs> tqfp, 120 2016-03-28T09:36:28 < upgrdman> lolol 2016-03-28T09:36:29 < dongs> same fucking product otherwise. 2016-03-28T09:36:32 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-150-180.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T09:36:32 < dongs> *and* 2016-03-28T09:36:50 < dongs> despite being 100 pin, BGA version is missing one or two pins that exist in tqfp 2016-03-28T09:36:55 < dongs> i forgot what they were 2016-03-28T09:36:57 < dongs> but it was something annoying 2016-03-28T09:37:03 < upgrdman> hah 2016-03-28T09:37:45 < dongs> im loking at some trash with sam3x 2016-03-28T09:37:51 < dongs> and that thing is really awful too 2016-03-28T09:37:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-150-180.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T09:38:07 < dongs> stdperiph is bad but asf/libsam shit is even more awful 2016-03-28T09:38:16 < dongs> also fact that practically NOBODY uses it so theres zero info 2016-03-28T09:38:26 < ohsix> only took a little peek at lpc stuff and it looked nice 2016-03-28T09:38:35 < ohsix> vaguely remember libsam 2016-03-28T09:43:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.115] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T09:44:50 < dongs> upgrdman: wat are you programming the lpc shit with, mbed? 2016-03-28T09:44:57 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-230-170.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T09:45:07 < upgrdman> lpcLink2 2016-03-28T09:45:17 < dongs> yeah i mean libs 2016-03-28T09:45:24 < dongs> or just raw register dicking 2016-03-28T09:45:29 < upgrdman> oh. just raw dicking 2016-03-28T09:45:37 < upgrdman> except for flash write bullshit 2016-03-28T09:45:52 < dongs> well you gotta call ROM shit for that anyway. 2016-03-28T09:47:10 < dongs> top secret flash erase algos 2016-03-28T09:47:47 -!- Chris_M|3 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-10-176.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T09:47:56 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-150-180.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T09:48:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T09:49:16 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-230-170.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T10:01:16 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-10-176.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T10:01:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-28T10:01:36 -!- Chris_M|3 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-10-176.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T10:04:01 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-162-54.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T10:05:36 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-10-176.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T10:09:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.200] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T11:07:21 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-28T11:07:21 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T11:11:56 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZSU1FPDiao watching that dieselgate presentation, covers lots of stuff; i should probably read that report :< 2016-03-28T11:14:54 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Quad-video-display-multiplexer/ 2016-03-28T11:15:05 < dongs> who teh fuck needs 4 screens in nigeria 2016-03-28T11:18:11 < ohsix> maybe they're multiboxing wow gold 2016-03-28T11:20:39 < ohsix> dongs set me up 2016-03-28T11:21:59 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.60.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T11:23:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-28T11:27:05 < ohsix> hm heh 2016-03-28T11:27:15 < ohsix> kind of understanding how people are able to do so much with the ecus 2016-03-28T11:27:30 < ohsix> i didn't know there were so few software vendors and basically everyone uses a thing from bosch 2016-03-28T11:27:50 < ohsix> it's kind of like uhh, phoenix providing x86 bios code 2016-03-28T11:27:58 < ohsix> american megaboners 2016-03-28T11:40:23 < ohsix> dang hitachi makes everything in old subarus 2016-03-28T11:48:03 < dongs> https://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/BitRead 2016-03-28T11:48:04 < dongs> fuck me 2016-03-28T11:48:06 < dongs> why does this even exist 2016-03-28T11:48:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-28T11:50:04 < ohsix> cuz people know they want to do that but not necessarily how 2016-03-28T11:50:23 < ohsix> there are things that actually matter 2016-03-28T11:50:26 < ohsix> this isn't one of them 2016-03-28T11:51:02 < ohsix> even if you can do it the 'right way', how readable is it to people who might want to use it :< 2016-03-28T11:51:16 < dongs> um 2016-03-28T11:51:19 < ohsix> the resulting code will be similar function call or not 2016-03-28T11:51:24 < lorenzo> Reads a bit of a number. 2016-03-28T11:51:25 < lorenzo> ... what? 2016-03-28T11:51:29 < jadew> if you can't do it the right way, you're not supposed to be doing it (yet) 2016-03-28T11:51:34 < lorenzo> like ... & bit ? 2016-03-28T11:51:38 < dongs> lorenzo: correct 2016-03-28T11:51:43 < dongs> jadew: that x 100000 correct 2016-03-28T11:51:43 < ohsix> like << and mask 2016-03-28T11:52:01 < ohsix> so what are people supposed to do if they need to do it 2016-03-28T11:52:05 < ohsix> they can just go do it, yay 2016-03-28T11:52:16 < jadew> they can learn how to do it 2016-03-28T11:52:30 < lorenzo> ohsix: it's an 8-bit micro with a decent compiler, you can learn it in under a day 2016-03-28T11:52:42 < lorenzo> unless you're an artist 2016-03-28T11:52:44 < lorenzo> then you're fucked anyway 2016-03-28T11:52:44 < dongs> if you want to do something wiht bits 2016-03-28T11:52:50 < ohsix> yes 2016-03-28T11:52:55 < ohsix> but why insert it as a barrier 2016-03-28T11:52:57 < dongs> but it cant be arsed to figure out what << or & does 2016-03-28T11:53:05 < dongs> then just find another hobby 2016-03-28T11:53:11 < ohsix> they can't be arsed to figure out what most of C is 2016-03-28T11:53:14 < ohsix> wiring is a subset of C 2016-03-28T11:53:21 < ohsix> you're already down the rabbit hole 2016-03-28T11:53:25 < dongs> thats why 100% of arduino code is fucking garbage 2016-03-28T11:53:54 < ohsix> it only matters to you though, and you're not even doing it 2016-03-28T11:54:04 < ohsix> http://wiring.org.co/reference/ 2016-03-28T11:54:11 < jpa-> though bitWrite() is annoying enough to do "correctly" that a macro is nice 2016-03-28T11:54:19 < jpa-> and once you have that, why not have bitRead() also 2016-03-28T11:54:24 < ohsix> there are macros in the arduino headers too 2016-03-28T11:54:31 < ohsix> _B*something 2016-03-28T11:54:44 < jadew> those are the avr headers 2016-03-28T11:54:56 < lorenzo> meh, what I don't like about arduino is that it completely forgets to teach the basics 2016-03-28T11:55:01 < ohsix> yea that means they're the arduino headers too 2016-03-28T11:55:04 < lorenzo> no one is using a watchdog timer in their sketches 2016-03-28T11:55:09 < ohsix> _BV 2016-03-28T11:55:10 < jadew> lorenzo, they don't forget, they don't want to 2016-03-28T11:55:11 < lorenzo> also delay(60000) ever heard of sleep and timers.. 2016-03-28T11:55:28 < jadew> lorenzo, that's not the same 2016-03-28T11:55:29 < ohsix> jadew: they probably want to, but why frontload all that stuff when you can just do it 2016-03-28T11:55:38 < jpa-> lorenzo: did you ever hear about real world requirements, fullfilling them and that being "good enough"? 2016-03-28T11:55:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-86ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T11:55:55 < lorenzo> jpa-: well sorry I care a bit about what I do :p 2016-03-28T11:55:55 < ohsix> they're already 'doing' something they might have no idea is actually going on but it works and shit, a continuity of working is good for learning 2016-03-28T11:56:10 < jpa-> instead of masturbating over coloumbs and bytes saved, you can more over to next project 2016-03-28T11:56:23 < jadew> lorenzo, you can't replace a hard delay() with a sleep or a timer 2016-03-28T11:56:42 < jpa-> *move 2016-03-28T11:57:13 < jpa-> lorenzo: at some point you might also realize that what you consider "caring" may not be as useful as you think 2016-03-28T11:57:27 < jpa-> everyone has different set of priorities 2016-03-28T11:57:28 < ohsix> you need to make an ultrapro.h header that just raises #error on all the methods that aren't cool enough 2016-03-28T11:57:49 < ohsix> #error here is how you do this for real bitRead = etc 2016-03-28T11:57:55 < ohsix> then they can add it and become pro 2016-03-28T11:57:59 < lorenzo> jpa-: right 2016-03-28T11:58:25 < dongs> ohsix: great idea, you better kickstart that 2016-03-28T11:58:34 < ohsix> even if you weren't using bitRead or whatever, you're still probably using something like _BV to set a bunch of random bits, and bv is there 2016-03-28T11:59:00 < jadew> I use & and | and shifting 2016-03-28T11:59:25 < ohsix> i use whatever jjj.de uses, blessings be upon him 2016-03-28T11:59:47 < ohsix> wizards don't exist, but jjj exists 2016-03-28T11:59:53 < jpa-> and to set a bit you write fooreg = (fooreg & ~4) | (v ? 4 : 0); ? such readable 2016-03-28T11:59:55 < jpa-> much pro 2016-03-28T11:59:59 < jadew> because I spent the 20 minutes to learn how to use them and now I can use them in every language 2016-03-28T12:00:22 < ohsix> only thing you really need to be pro for is bitfield extraction so you don't do bitread, bitread shift, bitread shift 2016-03-28T12:00:55 < ohsix> it would be funny to see someone try and do find first bit set with bitread and a loop or something 2016-03-28T12:01:00 < ohsix> by that point you probably should be pro 2016-03-28T12:02:24 < jadew> ohsix, thing is you don't have to be pro for that 2016-03-28T12:02:31 < jadew> you just have to know how bit operations work 2016-03-28T12:02:36 < lorenzo> ohsix: I think there are a few CISC architectures with an opcode just for that :D 2016-03-28T12:02:46 < jadew> and if you're using bitread and bitwrite all day long, you'll never get a grip on it 2016-03-28T12:03:01 < lorenzo> like m68k had "find first one" 2016-03-28T12:03:18 < ohsix> jadew: i'm using pro in the strawman sense that was introduced earlier :p 2016-03-28T12:03:26 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:47f:2fbf:fb32:885c] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-28T12:03:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-28T12:03:33 < ohsix> lorenzo: avr has an instruction for it too, iirc 2016-03-28T12:04:07 < jadew> ohsix, I think everyone agrees that a macro is useful sometimes, but relying solely on macros with no idea on how even these simple things work, won't help you in the long run 2016-03-28T12:04:19 < ohsix> ya you can't go pro with a macro 2016-03-28T12:04:40 < ohsix> you need to be able to look at a .hex file like it was the matrixz 2016-03-28T12:04:44 < jpa-> or you can, because it is not that hard to learn 2016-03-28T12:04:49 < ohsix> and see that cypher is going to try and kill you 2016-03-28T12:05:00 < jpa-> it's not a thing that requires years of practice, it takes 10 minutes when you need it the first time 2016-03-28T12:05:05 < jpa-> you just have to know its there 2016-03-28T12:05:38 < jadew> it takes 10 minutes, but if you see this: fooreg = (fooreg & ~4) | (v ? 4 : 0); and it's a problem for you, then it has crippled you as a developer 2016-03-28T12:06:03 < jadew> because it's not only about writing your own code, it's also about the ability to read other people's code 2016-03-28T12:06:12 < ohsix> if you are putting incomprehensible stuff in arduino code you expect other people to use it doesn't really help 2016-03-28T12:06:13 < lorenzo> nah 2016-03-28T12:06:16 < lorenzo> unreadable code = job security 2016-03-28T12:06:17 < lorenzo> :p 2016-03-28T12:06:23 < jadew> heh 2016-03-28T12:06:31 < jadew> however, what he posted is not unreadable code 2016-03-28T12:06:40 < jpa-> no, but it is ugly :) 2016-03-28T12:06:42 < jadew> and tbh, I have no issue with it 2016-03-28T12:06:44 < jadew> it is 2016-03-28T12:07:03 < ohsix> the audience for the code is definitely implied when the conversation starts like this one did, 'why does bitread exist' 2016-03-28T12:07:06 < jadew> but it's not at the point that would bother me 2016-03-28T12:08:18 < ohsix> 105. SBRS – Skip if Bit in Register is Set 2016-03-28T12:08:34 < ohsix> there's an argument to be made about orthogonality with the instruction set here 2016-03-28T12:08:52 < jadew> that's a great instruction 2016-03-28T12:08:53 < ohsix> there's also/set/clear and skip if clear instruction 2016-03-28T12:11:36 < ohsix> don't see popcount / bsf type instruction though, must have been thinking of something else 2016-03-28T12:12:23 < ohsix> http://jjj.de/bitwizardry/bitwizardrypage.html jjj.de for the uninitiated 2016-03-28T12:12:31 < ohsix> there's also a book with all sorts of great dumb stuff in it 2016-03-28T12:13:44 < ohsix> at the bottom it's got clever bitcount and ith bit set functions 2016-03-28T12:14:40 < jadew> the average stuff is nice 2016-03-28T12:14:40 < ohsix> i wish i was formally tought discrete mathematics :< i'm a big dumb 2016-03-28T12:14:42 < jadew> and useful 2016-03-28T12:15:06 < jadew> thanks for the link, it has some good stuff 2016-03-28T12:15:07 < ohsix> you know the float to integer division trick carmack or abrash is credited with 2016-03-28T12:15:13 < lorenzo> http://jjj.de/fxt/fxtbook.pdf looks good 2016-03-28T12:15:40 < ohsix> hm maybe it wasn't ftol but something else, anyways it has a neat magic coefficient 2016-03-28T12:16:10 < jadew> that book looks like a good read 2016-03-28T12:16:26 < ohsix> ahh it was fast inverse square root, not ftol 2016-03-28T12:16:38 < ohsix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root 2016-03-28T12:16:52 < ohsix> that's wizard level stuff 2016-03-28T12:17:44 < Sync> naw 2016-03-28T12:18:18 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xATi_9seuk 2016-03-28T12:18:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T12:20:11 < jadew> ohsix, funny they still don't know who came up with it 2016-03-28T12:20:26 < ohsix> yea some of the best things are like that 2016-03-28T12:20:41 < ohsix> kind of like that asshole that worked at the patent office and was writing all those theoretical physics papers 2016-03-28T12:20:44 < ohsix> at least they remember his name 2016-03-28T12:21:33 < lorenzo> lol 2016-03-28T12:22:02 < lorenzo> albert something .. 2016-03-28T12:28:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.41] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T12:29:16 < ohsix> hm i'm surprised that with everything google indexes now that they can't find it in a random book or paper, or at least more information 2016-03-28T12:29:46 < ohsix> it might be from a hardware designer 2016-03-28T12:30:52 < ohsix> or maybe something that didn't have wide circulation, like programming manuals for early vector processors, graphics workstations, or datasheets for early vector/graphics processors 2016-03-28T12:32:32 < jadew> could be very old 2016-03-28T12:32:38 < jadew> considering nobody came forth to claim it 2016-03-28T12:34:22 < ohsix> yea the person that came up with it might not have thought it was even novel 2016-03-28T12:34:37 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-28T12:34:46 < lorenzo> http://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/RSQRTSS.html 2016-03-28T12:35:01 < ohsix> there's lots of stuff only in print in one book somewhere that very few people know about, but everyone that does puts it into what they're working on 2016-03-28T12:35:01 < jadew> there were lots of tricks back in the day for fast math 2016-03-28T12:35:02 < lorenzo> ah looks like it's in mmx since '99 2016-03-28T12:35:06 < jadew> specifically related to graphics 2016-03-28T12:35:19 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-28T12:35:32 < ohsix> depending on how far you go back there aren't actually many engineers doing it either 2016-03-28T12:35:59 < ohsix> could have been as few as 100 people or something working on hardware 3d or vector processors when they came up with it 2016-03-28T12:36:12 < ohsix> they'd all be 'classically trained' cuz that job didn't exist when they were in school or whatever :p 2016-03-28T12:36:48 < jadew> speaking of which, I'm thinking of going back to school 2016-03-28T12:37:42 < jadew> I didn't finish college and I'm not sure how that's going to affect me in the future 2016-03-28T12:38:45 < jadew> it sucks to go to school and learn shit you already know 2016-03-28T12:40:02 < lorenzo> jadew: fuckups are pretty common when it comes to life things, I think I've picked the wrong college thing 2016-03-28T12:40:12 < ohsix> you could have a postmodern perspective on it in the sense that you didn't really know the subject 2016-03-28T12:40:35 < ohsix> since being taught it will be different from how you learned it, plus there will be more background 2016-03-28T12:41:02 < jadew> yeah, the background is nice, but it ends fast 2016-03-28T12:41:20 < jadew> after you go through the first computers, ADA and you reach modern days, that's it 2016-03-28T12:41:26 < jadew> it's all boredom 2016-03-28T12:41:46 < lorenzo> well no one really knows anything, since we learn by language, and there's a unbrudgeable differance between the word and the object it refers to 2016-03-28T12:41:46 < jadew> and now that part will be boredom too, because I already did it a couple of times already 2016-03-28T12:41:51 < ohsix> probably 2016-03-28T12:42:08 < ohsix> i'd still like to see a lecture even if it was about somethign i already knew 2016-03-28T12:42:26 < ohsix> a person delivering material has their own experience that doesn't quite transfer from a book, or books 2016-03-28T12:42:38 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-28T12:42:46 < jadew> ohsix, yeah, some lectures are nice 2016-03-28T12:43:02 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host152-120-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T12:43:03 < jadew> I did enjoy math tho 2016-03-28T12:43:10 < lorenzo> fuckin' thinkpad shuts itself down 2016-03-28T12:43:40 < ohsix> a lot of the ccc presentations cover a lot of stuff i already know, but they have them as context for the thing they're doing so you don't have to read into it which was important or implied 2016-03-28T12:44:18 < jadew> what is ccc? 2016-03-28T12:45:10 < ohsix> chaos communications congress or something 2016-03-28T12:46:52 < jadew> there's never any interesting conference or gathering happening in my country 2016-03-28T12:47:03 < lorenzo> same :/ 2016-03-28T12:47:18 < jadew> lorenzo, where are you from? 2016-03-28T12:47:21 < lorenzo> italy 2016-03-28T12:48:05 < jadew> yeah, can't say I've heard of a seminar I wanted to go to that was being held in Italy 2016-03-28T12:48:11 < lorenzo> there are a few camps about hardware and hacking and diy but I got bored after two or three times 2016-03-28T12:48:31 < jadew> I'm not sure we even have that 2016-03-28T12:48:31 < lorenzo> linux days were good, actual developers speaking, but since 2007-2008 they've become more of a "bring us your laptop and we'll install ubuntu" thing 2016-03-28T12:48:40 < ohsix> hm snippets.org disappeared 2016-03-28T12:49:26 < jadew> lorenzo, not a great growd to learn from (linux developers) :P 2016-03-28T12:49:27 < ohsix> there's lots of stuff going on in germany almost all the time 2016-03-28T12:49:47 < jadew> unless they were working on any of the cool stuff 2016-03-28T12:49:51 < jadew> that actually work 2016-03-28T12:49:57 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-28T12:49:59 < lorenzo> yeah, germany seems to be the most active community in europe in that regard 2016-03-28T12:50:03 < jadew> germany is full of these conferences 2016-03-28T12:50:09 < jadew> yep 2016-03-28T12:50:22 < jadew> probably that's why all the migrants went there 2016-03-28T12:50:35 < jadew> education opportunities 2016-03-28T12:51:24 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.60.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-28T12:51:30 < ohsix> might be a centroid of population in europe or something 2016-03-28T12:51:38 < jadew> it must have to do with the auto industry 2016-03-28T12:51:47 < jadew> there are a lot of other stuff revolving that 2016-03-28T12:51:54 < lorenzo> I don't think so 2016-03-28T12:51:59 < lorenzo> italy has strong automotive too 2016-03-28T12:52:06 < lorenzo> but that has had no influence on anything else 2016-03-28T12:52:07 < lorenzo> :/ 2016-03-28T12:52:09 < jadew> not as strong as germany tho 2016-03-28T12:52:23 < jadew> they're world leaders 2016-03-28T12:52:51 < ohsix> yea germany is in the middle of everything 2016-03-28T12:53:26 < ohsix> only some northern swedes and finlanders have to travel real far 2016-03-28T12:53:51 < jadew> heh 2016-03-28T12:54:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@125.69.149.43] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T12:54:22 < jadew> I visited germany a couple of times, can't say I'd like to go there anymore 2016-03-28T12:54:52 < jadew> I mean, I'd like to, but I'm not sure it's safe 2016-03-28T12:55:15 < jadew> I've seen some terrifying videos from the highways 2016-03-28T12:55:34 < ohsix> have you seen the good ones that nobody posts to the internet cuz it wasn't a crash :> 2016-03-28T12:56:59 < jadew> I got this thumbnail in one of my "Recommended for you" videos on youtube: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r6qQfQ5rImY/hqdefault.jpg 2016-03-28T12:57:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-28T12:57:21 < Steffann> sure it was youtube? 2016-03-28T12:57:39 < jadew> holly crap 2016-03-28T12:57:42 < jadew> it's not censored 2016-03-28T12:58:07 < ohsix> the breast one? 2016-03-28T12:58:11 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6qQfQ5rImY#t=1m26s 2016-03-28T12:58:17 < Steffann> jadew do you want to say highways in romania are safer? 2016-03-28T12:58:19 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-28T12:58:21 < jadew> NSFW 2016-03-28T12:58:35 < ohsix> jadew: yea there's a type fo spam on youtube where they have some 'medical' / educational value 2016-03-28T12:58:37 < Steffann> but this is educational, then its ok 2016-03-28T12:58:45 < ohsix> there's one g oing around where the thumb is someone playing with their boobs 2016-03-28T12:58:54 < ohsix> 15:02 < ohsix:#multiwii> https://i.ytimg.com/vi_webp/WnQFJGKwy0M/mqdefault.webp seems like a legit educational video 2016-03-28T12:59:31 < ohsix> you can get away with a model with large breasts playing with them if milk comes out 2016-03-28T13:02:36 < jadew> ohsix, do you have the link to the one with the breasts? 2016-03-28T13:02:54 < jadew> I want to have it in my history so I get recommended more such educational videos :D 2016-03-28T13:02:58 -!- timemob [~dongs@149.110.131.180.west.global.crust-r.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T13:02:59 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T13:03:17 < timemob> laurenceb beep 2016-03-28T13:04:58 -!- timemob [~dongs@149.110.131.180.west.global.crust-r.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-28T13:05:12 < zyp> laurencebeep 2016-03-28T13:05:43 < ohsix> jadew: that link there 2016-03-28T13:05:59 < jadew> ohsix, I meant of the video 2016-03-28T13:06:08 < ohsix> yea use the video id in the url:p 2016-03-28T13:06:34 < jadew> didn't realize it's the video ID 2016-03-28T13:06:49 < jadew> thumbed up 2016-03-28T13:06:56 < ohsix> yea all the metadata related to youtube junk goes with the video id 2016-03-28T13:07:14 < ohsix> except the vide/audio streams, cuz that would be too easy 2016-03-28T13:07:38 < jadew> heh 2016-03-28T13:08:09 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYshVbcEmUc 2016-03-28T13:09:32 < jadew> are they going to pay for old iphones? 2016-03-28T13:09:45 < ohsix> why does the main board have platinum on it 2016-03-28T13:09:53 < ohsix> nah it's just a promotional thing 2016-03-28T13:09:59 < jadew> I doubt it has 2016-03-28T13:10:11 < ohsix> they handle their own returns/refub, they can take advantage of waste stream for repairing other phones 2016-03-28T13:10:27 < ohsix> the video says it does, and it's probably not a lie; just don't know what it would be on 2016-03-28T13:10:44 < jadew> is platinum a better conductor than gold? 2016-03-28T13:11:24 < ohsix> 911 Metallurgist, which helps mines and recyclers extract precious metals from ore and, apparently, phones, has exhaustively checked the iPhones and other mobile devices. Each iPhone 5, for instance, contains $1.58 of gold, $.36 of silver, $.05 of platinum, and $.12 of copper. 2016-03-28T13:11:29 < ohsix> i don't think so 2016-03-28T13:12:00 < ohsix> it's probably in one of the fancy semiconductor chemistry parts 2016-03-28T13:12:04 < ohsix> power amp or something 2016-03-28T13:12:44 < ohsix> articles going way back say there is platinum in it 2016-03-28T13:14:22 < jadew> $1.58 of gold is a lot 2016-03-28T13:14:35 < jadew> I wonder how easy it would be to recover it tho 2016-03-28T13:14:47 < Steffann> 1.58.. using what gold price? 2016-03-28T13:14:52 < Steffann> march 2016? 2016-03-28T13:15:42 < jadew> apr 2013 2016-03-28T13:16:48 < jadew> ah, looks like it has gone down quite a lot 2016-03-28T13:17:00 < Steffann> not really.. 2016-03-28T13:17:20 < jadew> from 2013? 2016-03-28T13:17:24 < jadew> http://goldprice.org/ 2016-03-28T13:17:26 < Steffann> oh i was looking wrong 2016-03-28T13:17:39 < Steffann> it went down fast begin 2013 2016-03-28T13:17:45 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-28T13:17:55 < jadew> I guess that's when the bubble burst 2016-03-28T13:18:04 < jadew> I suppose it's going to keep going down 2016-03-28T13:18:52 < jadew> a lot of people bought gold back then because they were afraid of a total collapse 2016-03-28T13:24:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-28T13:24:55 < Steffann> Crazy people. 2016-03-28T13:24:57 < dongs> lawl 2016-03-28T13:25:20 < dongs> zyp: anything in 2.4ghz dumb-rf stuff that can do ~512kbit over ~200meters? 2016-03-28T13:25:26 < dongs> one way 2016-03-28T13:26:13 < zyp> I don't have enough experience to say 2016-03-28T13:26:32 < zyp> but I guess some of that shit with external PA chips should have decent range 2016-03-28T13:26:57 < zyp> I bought some cc3000 or whatever like that from ebay, but I never had time to dick around with those 2016-03-28T13:27:23 < dongs> ya sure with PA. 2016-03-28T13:27:26 < dongs> but is datarate doable? 2016-03-28T13:27:58 < zyp> idk, sounds a bit high 2016-03-28T13:28:04 < zyp> 512k continous? 2016-03-28T13:28:07 < dongs> yes 2016-03-28T13:28:15 < dongs> ~240k payload and FEC 2016-03-28T13:28:29 < Steffann> nrf24 cant do that with some fancy PA? 2016-03-28T13:28:31 < ohsix> there's usually a 2mbit mode thing on those gfsk rxtx 2016-03-28T13:28:37 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-28T13:28:51 < zyp> cheap rf shit is usually 1mbit/2mbit signalling 2016-03-28T13:29:05 < zyp> but I wouldn't assume I could get 100% duty out of that 2016-03-28T13:29:25 < ohsix> one of those spring antennas might go pretty far no idea how far tho 2016-03-28T13:29:35 < zyp> might have to look at wifi shit 2016-03-28T13:29:52 < dongs> no wifi 2016-03-28T13:29:56 < zyp> proper wifi setup could do that easily 2016-03-28T13:30:02 < ohsix> 200 meters is a bit for wifi too 2016-03-28T13:30:14 < zyp> not with directional antenna 2016-03-28T13:30:16 < dongs> might take apart one of hte things they wanna clone and seee how they do it 2016-03-28T13:31:37 < ohsix> will probably need certification for use in the band if 512kbit is an average rate 2016-03-28T13:34:09 < dongs> 512kbit would be constant rate. 2016-03-28T13:37:32 < Steffann> What are you inventing? 2016-03-28T13:38:37 < dongs> nothing much, cloning some existing shit (maybe) 2016-03-28T13:38:46 < dongs> just assburgering if worth putting my into into it 2016-03-28T13:38:51 < dongs> er my TIME into it 2016-03-28T13:43:28 < PeterM> 200m LOS is a peice of cake for pretty much any non-ultra low power shit 2016-03-28T13:51:39 < ohsix> jadew: the floating point that makes that inverse square root thing was only standardized as ieee754 the year before the oldest thing people think it came from 2016-03-28T13:51:51 < ohsix> not much more to look at if there was an earlier source 2016-03-28T13:52:58 < jadew> do they say how they came up with the constant? 2016-03-28T13:53:30 < ohsix> yea the note basically does 2016-03-28T13:55:04 < ohsix> just says the exact value doesn't have a known source 2016-03-28T14:03:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-28T14:03:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T14:06:52 < ohsix> https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~m32rober/rsqrt.pdf 2016-03-28T14:06:59 < ohsix> heh this mentions q3 possibly being leaked 2016-03-28T14:07:14 < ohsix> i had a copy of that, someone tried to publish it as their own engine, called it 'golk' 2016-03-28T14:07:44 < ohsix> there used to be a website called 3d engines list or something, that's where it was before people figured it out 2016-03-28T14:14:48 < lorenzo> let's see if honeywell is kind enough to ship us some sensors 2016-03-28T14:15:08 < lorenzo> they want to "meet to discuss" lol 2016-03-28T14:15:19 < PeterM> can't you just like... buy them? 2016-03-28T14:15:38 < lorenzo> PeterM: of course, I've added a few of those into the next mouser order 2016-03-28T14:16:03 < lorenzo> just wanted to play around a bit with their dodgy looking web forms 2016-03-28T14:16:50 < PeterM> fair enough - i usuallyo nly ever looks for samples when distributors are out of stock or i can't get in less than 1kunits 2016-03-28T14:18:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.136] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T14:23:20 < dongs> failguy spent 8 hours yesterday trying to find "bug" 2016-03-28T14:23:29 < dongs> blamed everything from compiler to chip having faulty ram 2016-03-28T14:23:38 < dongs> problem: dumbfuck was sprintf()'ing into a tiny buffer 2016-03-28T14:25:21 < dongs> y 2016-03-28T14:27:12 < jpa-> who uses sprintf() :F 2016-03-28T14:27:20 < dongs> same guys who use bitRead 2016-03-28T14:27:23 < dongs> thats wehre I saw it 2016-03-28T14:27:45 < dongs> he was actualyl using it indirectly, some dumb lib provided a dumblib.Printf() 2016-03-28T14:28:27 * jadew wrote his own buffer printing stuff that's much smaller and efficient 2016-03-28T14:28:46 < dongs> i dont realyl give a shit in *my* projects cuz keil printf/etc stuff is great 2016-03-28T14:29:03 < dongs> i see all those tiny-printf etc shits and they're just dumb hacks 2016-03-28T14:29:15 < dongs> keil printf *with* float support is smaller than the dumb miniprintf from opensores 2016-03-28T14:29:21 < jadew> you know... in C++ it can be done at compile time :) 2016-03-28T14:29:31 < jadew> at least the type checking part 2016-03-28T14:30:06 < ReadError> PeterM so, its impossible to get 18650s shipped to USA from fasttech now ;(\ 2016-03-28T14:30:21 < dongs> no more vaping for you, faggot 2016-03-28T14:30:40 < ReadError> they arent for vaping, gump 2016-03-28T14:30:45 < dongs> does AOZ have any > 48V in stuff 2016-03-28T14:31:44 < dongs> oh nvm ill just use LM5008 again 2016-03-28T14:31:48 < dongs> futarproof 2016-03-28T14:32:02 < fest> I recently tried using arduino-like framework (Sming) on ESP8266. hit two shitty bugs like that in core framework (buffer overflow in uart handling, not checking malloc/realloc return codes etc) 2016-03-28T14:32:15 < dongs> nice 2016-03-28T14:32:19 < dongs> yeah thats tarduino shit for you 2016-03-28T14:32:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-28T14:36:26 < fest> well, in my defense, that was the better option, haha. other ones are: node shit, fully arduino shit (complete with their __easy to use IDE__) and SDK without reasonable documentation. 2016-03-28T14:36:53 < PeterM> ReadError, really?! 2016-03-28T14:37:02 < fest> anyway, should have gone with vendor SDK, as shitty as it is, it at least doesn't introduce any new bugs 2016-03-28T14:37:08 < dongs> PeterM: yea some new rules from april4 or something 2016-03-28T14:37:16 < dongs> no more batteries not packed in equipment 2016-03-28T14:37:17 < dongs> or omsehtin 2016-03-28T14:37:24 < ReadError> no they can still do them 2016-03-28T14:37:27 < ReadError> but dumb rules 2016-03-28T14:37:32 < ReadError> like no more than 30% charged 2016-03-28T14:37:48 < dongs> o yuea and that 2016-03-28T14:37:48 < lorenzo> I'm probably too dumb for it probably but I never got ESP8266 to work reliably 2016-03-28T14:37:55 < lorenzo> reliably as in > 30 days continuous operation 2016-03-28T14:37:59 < dongs> heh 2016-03-28T14:38:06 < lorenzo> at some point something just crashes 2016-03-28T14:38:09 < lorenzo> and that's it. 2016-03-28T14:38:13 < dongs> shitty china silicone 2016-03-28T14:38:54 < fest> lorenzo: the universally accepted way of dealing with that seems to be periodially restarting, lol 2016-03-28T14:39:22 < PeterM> dongs daaaang 2016-03-28T14:39:33 < jadew> or figuring out what it is 2016-03-28T14:40:04 < dongs> PeterM: your vapebiz goin down the tubez? 2016-03-28T14:40:53 < PeterM> nah, i live in AUS, not USA 2016-03-28T14:41:01 < dongs> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b65_1459091584 ahahaha 2016-03-28T14:41:20 < ReadError> https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/about/news/service_updates/20160111_lithiumbattery_US.html 2016-03-28T14:41:26 < ReadError> i think this is for EVERY country 2016-03-28T14:41:41 < ReadError> The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) has approved amendments to the lithium battery provisions in the ICAO Technical Instructions. Compliance with the new regulations is mandatory effective April 1, 2016. These amendments include: 2016-03-28T14:41:44 < ReadError> international 2016-03-28T14:41:48 < PeterM> yeah, fasttech uses some specific curior for australia 2016-03-28T14:41:50 < PeterM> not ups or dhl 2016-03-28T14:41:57 < ReadError> nah see 2016-03-28T14:42:01 < ReadError> this isnt for UPS either 2016-03-28T14:42:07 < dongs> that guy is def speeding tho 2016-03-28T14:42:12 < dongs> thats a 50kmh zone 2016-03-28T14:42:42 < Steffann> which country is that.. driving left? 2016-03-28T14:42:47 < dongs> jp duh 2016-03-28T14:43:08 < Steffann> oh didnt have sound on before, no i have 2016-03-28T14:43:18 < jadew> interesting that he didn't get knocked out 2016-03-28T14:43:31 < Steffann> it. 2016-03-28T14:43:34 < jadew> I imagine a fight with a bear would be pretty tough 2016-03-28T14:43:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.205] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T14:43:38 < jadew> yeah, it, thanks 2016-03-28T14:44:21 < Steffann> :P 2016-03-28T14:45:07 < Steffann> i dont know. 2016-03-28T14:46:42 < PeterM> 2 secs ill do up an order ReadError 2016-03-28T14:46:49 < PeterM> nope, still fine 2016-03-28T14:47:13 < ReadError> PeterM this new shit hasnt started yet 2016-03-28T14:47:15 < PeterM> 40x 3500mah lg 18650s is still shippable to australia, 4-6 days deleivery, $4 2016-03-28T14:47:20 < ReadError> april 1 2016-03-28T14:48:07 < PeterM> surely they'd have some notification about it 2016-03-28T14:49:15 < dongs> PeterM: rcfaggots "notified" about it by scare tactics 2016-03-28T14:49:25 < dongs> PeterM: "hurry up and buy a buunch of batteries before htey're banned from shipping outside usa" 2016-03-28T14:49:31 < dongs> literally ~ this text 2016-03-28T14:49:37 < ReadError> lol dongs 2016-03-28T14:49:39 < ReadError> fucknugget 2016-03-28T14:49:45 < ReadError> it has nothing to do with the USA 2016-03-28T14:49:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@125.69.149.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-28T14:49:57 < dongs> well i got spam from some hobby places 2016-03-28T14:50:00 < ReadError> its 'international' 2016-03-28T14:50:05 < PeterM> https://www.fasttech.com/forums/shipping 2016-03-28T14:50:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T14:50:17 < PeterM> surely id see a post here if they expected it to effect them 2016-03-28T14:51:58 < ReadError> well the only thing it effects is air shipments 2016-03-28T14:52:04 < ReadError> so its slowboatin 2016-03-28T14:52:10 < dongs> http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/27/japan-loses-contact-with-newest-space-telescope/ 2016-03-28T14:52:13 < dongs> oops 2016-03-28T14:52:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T14:52:54 < PeterM> ReadError, i dont think it effects privately owned curiour aircraft 2016-03-28T14:53:01 < PeterM> only shipments on passanger aircraft 2016-03-28T14:53:09 < dongs> Radar observations Sunday indicated that Hitomi, which launched on February 17, is in at least five pieces 2016-03-28T14:54:10 < ReadError> haha 2016-03-28T14:54:34 < PeterM> who launched it? 2016-03-28T14:54:41 < fest> "some kind of “energetic event” has occurred" ahaha 2016-03-28T14:54:50 < PeterM> kek 2016-03-28T14:55:01 < dongs> PeterM: japs 2016-03-28T14:55:07 < dongs> that was teh launch i missed last month 2016-03-28T14:55:15 < dongs> that was like few 100km from here 2016-03-28T14:57:12 < PeterM> yeah but who launched it? like people who build space telescopes and satellites etc usually buy rocket capacity from someone else 2016-03-28T14:57:24 < dongs> mitsubishi heavy industiies. 2016-03-28T14:57:39 < dongs> http://h2a.mhi.co.jp/en/ 2016-03-28T14:57:41 < dongs> so literally japs 2016-03-28T14:58:12 < PeterM> kek 2016-03-28T14:58:34 < PeterM> ahhwell, if its in 5+ peices then should help with reentry :P 2016-03-28T14:58:46 < dongs> anywa,y it was launched last month 2016-03-28T14:58:52 < dongs> so probly blew up or got hit my some otehr trash 2016-03-28T14:59:00 < dongs> doubt its the launch fault 2016-03-28T14:59:03 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-28T14:59:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-28T15:06:35 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-28T15:06:45 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T15:07:29 < jadew> did I somehow switched my liveleak to japan after clicking on that bear video? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7f_1459155824 2016-03-28T15:07:53 < jadew> ah, it's China 2016-03-28T15:07:54 < dongs> thats chinks 2016-03-28T15:09:17 < jadew> lol: 2016-03-28T15:09:19 < jadew> https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/Mar/28/LiveLeak-dot-com-39b_1459163827-asiansightsmall_1459163835.png?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd29f4c42d3d0e6c9&ec_rate=230 2016-03-28T15:09:26 < jadew> https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/Mar/28/LiveLeak-dot-com-da9_1459163857-normalviews_1459163864.png?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd29f4c42d3d0e6c9&ec_rate=230 2016-03-28T15:09:31 < dongs> lmao'd 2016-03-28T15:11:19 < dongs> need a gif of those 2 2016-03-28T15:11:26 < dongs> epileptically switching 2016-03-28T15:18:31 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T15:20:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T15:28:03 < dongs> well, fuck this. goin to sleep 2016-03-28T15:28:08 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T15:29:14 < jadew> night 2016-03-28T15:29:18 < jadew> I skipped sleep 2016-03-28T15:35:25 < Steffann> dont you have a wife to tell you to go sleep jadew? 2016-03-28T15:35:51 < Steffann> unless you did something else that involved her 2016-03-28T15:36:31 < jadew> I think she gave up on trying to convince me to sleep like normal 2016-03-28T15:37:07 < Steffann> hehe 2016-03-28T15:38:58 < Steffann> Yeah, its better for you to talk to those irc weirdos 2016-03-28T15:39:39 < jadew> what am I to do with the rest of the night :) 2016-03-28T15:42:03 < jadew> I just work better at night, no disturbances 2016-03-28T15:42:26 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-28T15:42:44 < Steffann> Better get pumping. 2016-03-28T15:43:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-28T15:43:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T15:49:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T15:50:59 < jadew> this is stupid, I made a c:\ 2016-03-28T15:51:04 < jadew> this is stupid, I made a c:\tmp folder a while ago 2016-03-28T15:51:25 < jadew> and I've put so much stuff in it, that I eventually started sorting it 2016-03-28T15:51:32 < jadew> and now I even have documents there 2016-03-28T15:51:38 < jadew> and things from work 2016-03-28T15:52:28 < dongs> not sleeping yet 2016-03-28T15:52:39 < dongs> jadew: thats what a trashssd d:\ is for me i just dump trash tehre temporarily 2016-03-28T15:52:47 < dongs> all important shit goes elsewehre 2016-03-28T15:52:55 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Blame ##stm32 2016-03-28T16:23:34 < kakimir> what is the clock in aussies? 2016-03-28T16:23:55 < Steffann> time.is/aussieland 2016-03-28T16:24:54 < BrainDamage> i'm disappointed it doesn't accept aussieland 2016-03-28T16:25:16 < PeterM> aussieland is derogatory, it's straya, get it right 2016-03-28T16:26:42 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHR6bpupwJk nice bush plane 2016-03-28T16:27:06 -!- pid [~pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-28T16:32:30 < kakimir> maybe a bit slow for australia 2016-03-28T16:46:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-28T16:47:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.207] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T16:47:47 < kakimir> in australia landing and take-off run is not an issue 2016-03-28T16:48:20 < kakimir> just avoid kengoroos and 20meter snakes 2016-03-28T16:48:49 < PeterM> looks liek a plane for spergers 2016-03-28T16:58:08 < kakimir> are you sure about that? 2016-03-28T16:58:30 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs4lpWv90L8 2016-03-28T17:03:50 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T17:04:23 < PeterM> wow, you're right THAT plane looks like its for spergers 2016-03-28T17:18:01 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgHXqA1irwA 2016-03-28T17:20:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T17:23:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-28T17:26:44 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNaz23ySUkY 2016-03-28T17:27:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-28T17:33:44 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-28T17:34:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T17:44:28 < Rickta59> is there any advantage to using 0x0 as the base for your flash code vs 0x8000000 (ROM address in ld scripts)? It seems like code generation could potentially be smaller no? Does anyone do this? 2016-03-28T17:58:15 < lorenzo> lol just noticed that there's native cubemx on linux 2016-03-28T17:58:28 < lorenzo> always used that on windows :D 2016-03-28T17:58:44 < Fleck> :D 2016-03-28T18:00:19 < fest> I like how often it asks to save unsaved changes. I guess there was an internal meeting like: "Users are complaining that they are loosing work due to crashes. What can we do? Developers: easy, let's pop-up an annoying dialogue asking to save changes once in a minute" 2016-03-28T18:07:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-28T18:07:46 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-28T18:08:07 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/kIVENw0.jpg 2016-03-28T18:08:13 < ReadError> my trollien made the news 2016-03-28T18:09:11 < Steffann> Did she explain it well ReadError? 2016-03-28T18:09:27 < ReadError> lol probably not 2016-03-28T18:09:32 < ReadError> didnt watch the vid 2016-03-28T18:10:12 < PeterM> you really gotta put more dick logos o nyour stuff 2016-03-28T18:10:54 < ReadError> she didnt call it a trollien though ;( 2016-03-28T18:12:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-28T18:14:28 < jpa-> Rickta59: seems that most code (atleast by gcc) uses PC-relative addressing, and PC-relative jumps 2016-03-28T18:14:54 < jpa-> but yeah, theoretically it takes less instructions to load 0x0000ABCD than 0x0800ABCD to a register 2016-03-28T18:15:03 < Rickta59> yes just using gcc out of the box seems to use ldr 2016-03-28T18:15:40 < Rickta59> is ldr faster than using a movw immediate? 2016-03-28T18:15:59 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T18:16:33 < jpa-> they do different things.. 2016-03-28T18:16:55 < Rickta59> assuming all my code is in the first 64k 2016-03-28T18:17:23 < jpa-> pastebin some assembler code so we have some basis for this discussion 2016-03-28T18:19:13 < Rickta59> * just looking at most of my code doing this 2016-03-28T18:19:35 < Rickta59> maybe it doesn't really matter as most of the things I'm ldr'ing are the const addresses of different peripherals 2016-03-28T18:19:44 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-28T18:19:48 < Rickta59> and it rare i'm loading an address in my flash 2016-03-28T18:19:52 < jpa-> yep 2016-03-28T18:20:29 < jpa-> mostly string literals, i would guess 2016-03-28T18:21:06 < jpa-> so it would save 2 bytes and one memory access to be able to movw instead of ldr those 2016-03-28T18:21:18 < Rickta59> yeah that makes sense 2016-03-28T18:21:53 < Rickta59> thanks 2016-03-28T18:23:05 < jpa-> i think one cannot directly run code based at 0x0000 from the USART bootloader 2016-03-28T18:23:19 < jpa-> (the BOOT0 bootloader) 2016-03-28T18:24:07 < Rickta59> ok .. i hadn't seen anyone doing this and just wanted to see if it would work .. * which it does if you load using openocd 2016-03-28T18:25:59 < Rickta59> i guess the other common thing to address is ram addresses and they aren't going to ever be small so i mark this up to a waste of time 2016-03-28T18:26:31 < Steffann> Why you didnt show up on TV ReadError? Or werent you there? 2016-03-28T18:28:05 < PeterM> ReadError was on tv, didn't you know he sexually identifies as a quadcopter 2016-03-28T18:28:26 < Steffann> Also no props on that thing? 2016-03-28T18:28:44 < PeterM> yes? 2016-03-28T18:29:06 < Steffann> no? 2016-03-28T18:29:17 < PeterM> its good for safety and makes easier to trasnport 2016-03-28T18:30:52 < Steffann> Sure but.. 2016-03-28T18:31:13 < Steffann> A quadcopter is no quadcopter when it doesnt fly ( ZANO ) 2016-03-28T18:32:01 < BrainDamage> no fly zano 2016-03-28T18:43:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T18:49:33 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T18:49:36 < timemob> haha 2016-03-28T18:50:11 < timemob> I got "invited" to that 30km radio project 2016-03-28T18:50:18 < timemob> by dicklancer 2016-03-28T18:50:21 < timemob> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/9984531.html 2016-03-28T18:50:29 < timemob> doesn't make it any less insane 2016-03-28T18:51:09 < BrainDamage> is that a suborbital bomber drone? 2016-03-28T18:51:55 < timemob> yes 2016-03-28T18:52:14 < jpa-> good that they specify the font, even if they cannot supply any actual requirements such as power usage 2016-03-28T18:52:52 < BrainDamage> or frequency band, or if it uses licensed or not spectrum 2016-03-28T18:53:11 < BrainDamage> or size of antenna and radio 2016-03-28T18:53:18 < jpa-> i also wonder what they'll use for downlink, or are they just happy to drive blind 2016-03-28T18:54:27 < timemob> and if they do, how they plan to keep the antenna pointed 2016-03-28T18:54:49 < timemob> who wanna design a satellite from scratch for $50/hr 2016-03-28T18:56:48 < timemob> jpa, says transmitter/receiver 2016-03-28T18:57:21 < timemob> tho I guess they mean TX on ground, rx up 2016-03-28T18:58:02 < lorenzo> The proposal shall be written using Times New Roman size 12 font 2016-03-28T18:58:03 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HMcZiWxX7o 2016-03-28T18:58:05 < lorenzo> shit 2016-03-28T18:58:08 < lorenzo> I don't have that on leenucs 2016-03-28T18:58:09 < lorenzo> :( 2016-03-28T18:58:15 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-03-28T18:58:24 < Laurenceb_> i do 2016-03-28T18:59:26 < timemob> you do, in abiword 2016-03-28T18:59:39 < timemob> cuz it comes with its own copy 2016-03-28T18:59:47 < lorenzo> ah I use libreoffice, that starts with some Liberation Serif thing 2016-03-28T18:59:58 < Laurenceb_> well they need to go to my github 2016-03-28T19:00:09 < timemob> in some retarded t1 format 2016-03-28T19:00:26 < timemob> do you have 30km link thing there? 2016-03-28T19:00:31 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-03-28T19:00:41 < Laurenceb_> much more range in fact 2016-03-28T19:00:44 < timemob> can I bid at 50/hr and steal your github 2016-03-28T19:00:51 < Laurenceb_> lulyes 2016-03-28T19:00:59 < jpa-> what's your estimated hours for stealing? 2016-03-28T19:01:09 < Laurenceb_> schematic is missing 2016-03-28T19:01:12 < timemob> but I hate writing 2016-03-28T19:01:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T19:01:26 < Laurenceb_> but its a copypasta of a silicon labs app note 2016-03-28T19:01:34 < timemob> jpa, 5 minutes maybe 2016-03-28T19:01:46 < timemob> but I'm naked in bed so maybe 10 2016-03-28T19:01:52 < timemob> cuz I'm lazy 2016-03-28T19:01:56 < emeb> eww eww eww 2016-03-28T19:02:02 < Laurenceb_> too much info 2016-03-28T19:02:03 < timemob> lolol 2016-03-28T19:02:07 < jpa-> wut 2016-03-28T19:02:10 < jpa-> perfect amount of info 2016-03-28T19:02:12 < BrainDamage> send nudes to laurenceb, etc 2016-03-28T19:02:15 < jpa-> just webcam link missing 2016-03-28T19:02:25 < Laurenceb_> no homo 2016-03-28T19:02:32 < jpa-> we might finally find out whether he's worth his nick 2016-03-28T19:02:48 < emeb> 2016-03-28T19:03:13 < timemob> so is your shit two way 2016-03-28T19:03:17 < timemob> or just one way 2016-03-28T19:03:30 < Laurenceb_> one and a half way 2016-03-28T19:03:50 < Laurenceb_> packet mode uplink, ukhas rtty downlink 2016-03-28T19:03:54 < timemob> talk to other balloons nearby? 2016-03-28T19:03:55 < emeb> noway 2016-03-28T19:03:56 < jpa-> two way shit sounds messy 2016-03-28T19:04:17 < Laurenceb_> its just air to ground and visa versa 2016-03-28T19:06:08 < timemob> what 2016-03-28T19:06:18 < timemob> which silabs 2016-03-28T19:06:26 < timemob> that usual trash you used. 2016-03-28T19:06:47 < Laurenceb_> si446x 2016-03-28T19:06:53 < timemob> right 2016-03-28T19:06:59 < Laurenceb_> 4464 iirc is best 2016-03-28T19:07:03 < timemob> how the fuck that does 30km 2016-03-28T19:07:24 < timemob> «very slowly » 2016-03-28T19:07:29 < Laurenceb_> cuz narrowband and high sensitivity modem with AFC 2016-03-28T19:07:48 < Laurenceb_> mine is 200bps up, 50bps down 2016-03-28T19:07:59 < jpa-> and line of sight, i guess? 2016-03-28T19:08:02 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-03-28T19:08:12 < timemob> obviously, in the sky 2016-03-28T19:08:16 < Laurenceb_> but range is a few hundred km, so datarate could be increased 2016-03-28T19:08:45 < timemob> don't you have dongler effect at that point 2016-03-28T19:09:11 < Laurenceb_> doppler?? 2016-03-28T19:09:30 < timemob> like the earth spinning I donno 2016-03-28T19:09:33 < Laurenceb_> yes thats one of the reasons I spent ages raging at the AFC 2016-03-28T19:09:35 < Simon--> signal becomes dongshaped 2016-03-28T19:09:40 < timemob> yes 2016-03-28T19:09:45 < Laurenceb_> but it seems to work well now 2016-03-28T19:10:04 < timemob> go sign up at feelancer and troll those guys 2016-03-28T19:10:20 < timemob> maybe they'll give you a start-up job 2016-03-28T19:10:26 < timemob> $199/hr 2016-03-28T19:10:29 < Laurenceb_> can't be bothered, too busy making horse tracking shit 2016-03-28T19:10:30 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-03-28T19:10:44 < timemob> until their dickstarter money runs out 2016-03-28T19:11:00 < Laurenceb_> do they have a kickstarter page? 2016-03-28T19:11:17 < timemob> haha I'm just guessing 2016-03-28T19:11:30 < timemob> zalnearspace 2016-03-28T19:11:41 < timemob> Google and see what the fuck they're doing 2016-03-28T19:12:23 < Laurenceb_> I'm not working with perman00bs 2016-03-28T19:13:13 < timemob> We are currently designing hardware and electronics for our first flight test in Spring of 2016.  2016-03-28T19:13:16 < Laurenceb_> http://www.zalnearspace.com/about.html 2016-03-28T19:13:22 < Laurenceb_> sounds autistic 2016-03-28T19:13:35 < Laurenceb_> no evidence they know what they are doing 2016-03-28T19:13:37 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T19:14:08 < timemob> can't even read that fucking page 2016-03-28T19:14:19 < timemob> black on dark font 2016-03-28T19:14:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.110.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T19:15:28 < Laurenceb_> I don't have the energy for that shit 2016-03-28T19:15:39 < timemob> your horse shit sounds pretty permanoob too 2016-03-28T19:15:43 < Laurenceb_> feel free to grab my radio codez if you want to troll 2016-03-28T19:15:58 < Laurenceb_> sure but it allows me to be lazy 2016-03-28T19:16:08 < Laurenceb_> as nobody cares 2016-03-28T19:16:09 < timemob> haha no time. I keep getting work trash non stop lately 2016-03-28T19:16:25 < timemob> dumb designs piling up 2016-03-28T19:16:27 < Laurenceb_> maybe I'll troll them with some suggestions... maybe 2016-03-28T19:16:34 < Laurenceb_> if I can be bothered 2016-03-28T19:17:54 < timemob> He has over a decade of management experience on various projects and has been involved with steam ship propulsion as well as steel, concrete, masonry, wood, and pipeline construction. 2016-03-28T19:18:15 < timemob> all perfect qualifications for space travel 2016-03-28T19:18:49 < Laurenceb_> literal steampunk 2016-03-28T19:19:14 < timemob> snort 2016-03-28T19:21:21 < timemob> ok time to zzz 2016-03-28T19:21:24 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-03-28T19:43:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-28T19:46:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35910492 2016-03-28T19:46:31 < Laurenceb_> nomnative determinism strikes again 2016-03-28T19:50:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T19:50:06 < emeb> heh 2016-03-28T19:50:12 < emeb> which is which? 2016-03-28T19:51:01 < zyp> dongs, yeah, added another 180p cap for tuning 2016-03-28T19:51:32 < zyp> and yeah, guess I forgot to run annotate schematic 2016-03-28T19:52:25 < zyp> it doesn't cause ERCs unless you add multiple parts with same refdes 2016-03-28T19:52:44 < Laurenceb_> Mr Lucky 2016-03-28T19:53:10 < zyp> I'll fix that next time I revise the design 2016-03-28T20:29:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.123] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T20:33:46 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T20:38:04 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-28T20:45:00 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-28T22:27:13 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-28T22:28:08 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T22:34:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T22:36:49 < ReadError> http://vncroulette.com/index.php?picture=0 2016-03-28T22:36:53 < ReadError> so this is a thing? 2016-03-28T22:38:30 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-28T22:42:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-28T22:46:16 < Steffanx> what is this ReadError? Open vnc servers? 2016-03-28T22:46:38 < ReadError> yea i guess 2016-03-28T22:46:42 < ReadError> but the times are off 2016-03-28T22:46:50 < ReadError> so im not sure what they are doing 2016-03-28T22:47:01 < ReadError> maybe they save the last pic 2016-03-28T22:49:06 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-28T22:49:30 < Steffanx> its all from 1-3 march too 2016-03-28T22:50:23 < Steffanx> Good old times.. the shodan search engine 2016-03-28T22:52:36 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T22:53:59 < ReadError> telnet 196.202.198.12 5900 2016-03-28T22:53:59 < ReadError> Trying 196.202.198.12... 2016-03-28T22:53:59 < ReadError> Connected to jmmr1.jambo.co.ke. 2016-03-28T22:53:59 < ReadError> Escape character is '^]'. 2016-03-28T22:53:59 < ReadError> RFB 003.008 2016-03-28T22:54:04 < ReadError> some of them are still open lol 2016-03-28T22:55:53 < ReadError> http://vncroulette.com/index.php?picture=133 2016-03-28T22:55:56 < ReadError> oh damn 2016-03-28T22:55:59 < ReadError> this is open still 2016-03-28T22:56:05 < ReadError> looks unsafe 2016-03-28T22:57:28 < Steffanx> shodan.io and just look for something like "iologik" and then those with "Remote Ethernet I/O Server" 2016-03-28T22:59:34 < Steffanx> when you know the right headers you can still find the online remote scade stuff. 2016-03-28T22:59:49 < Steffanx> ( this was hot YEARS ago ) 2016-03-28T22:59:57 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@c-fcaedb54.04-184-6d6c6d4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-28T23:04:19 < Steffanx> http://vncroulette.com/index.php?picture=136 there goes your smashburger ReadError 2016-03-28T23:10:03 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-28T23:11:22 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-28T23:14:31 < scrts> is this NSFW? 2016-03-28T23:16:34 < Steffanx> it is sfw. 2016-03-28T23:16:55 < Steffanx> just people being stupid with public accessible vnc servers 2016-03-28T23:18:03 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-28T23:18:40 < Steffanx> http://vncroulette.com/index.php?picture=8 pretty "scare" stuff though. There is ReadError private health record. 2016-03-28T23:18:43 < Steffanx> *scary 2016-03-28T23:19:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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2016-03-29T00:26:33 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmiKenqLVAU 2016-03-29T00:27:32 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: have you been talking shit of me? 2016-03-29T00:31:00 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-29T00:33:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T00:34:11 < ohsix> u wot m8 2016-03-29T00:35:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T00:36:17 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host152-120-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-29T00:36:17 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T00:36:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-29T00:40:05 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2a00:801:205:beb0:a921:228b:3930:75e0] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T00:41:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-8-140.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-29T00:43:39 < ohsix> ReadError: huh those battery restrictions suck, but also would make getting fakes worse, maybe it'll be good 2016-03-29T00:45:36 < ohsix> oof @ hitomi, why do'nt they ask americans for all the space junk information; they're tracking hundreds of thousands of objects and can tell you where mostly clear orbits are and shiz 2016-03-29T00:46:23 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac3e7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-29T00:46:48 < ReadError> i wonder if they get fined for littering 2016-03-29T00:46:55 -!- jadew [~razvan@84.232.196.173] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T00:56:06 < ohsix> dongs: how do you know what fonts come with abiword bro 2016-03-29T00:58:37 < ohsix> Mr Luckey said he only had one regret about the stunt, which was wearing flip-flops while walking around in Alaska during the winter. 2016-03-29T01:00:40 < ohsix> ReadError: i don't think there are fines but there is badness with putting junk in space in an uncontrolled way 2016-03-29T01:00:56 < ohsix> hopefully the news or someone eventuallllllllllllllllly reports wat orbit it was in and what likely hit it 2016-03-29T01:01:04 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8xlOm2wPAA 2016-03-29T01:04:05 < ohsix> ReadError: todays vox video about lens flares is ok 2016-03-29T01:04:30 < ReadError> not seen 2016-03-29T01:04:35 < ReadError> i should like&subscribe 2016-03-29T01:05:05 < ohsix> maybe 2016-03-29T01:05:38 < ohsix> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/27/filmmakers-accuse-robert-de-niro-of-censorship-after-he-yanks-anti-vaccine-movie-from-tribeca-festival/ lel 2016-03-29T01:06:22 < ohsix> wow that guy is still doing shit after losing his medical license and everything, a true believer ... in cash 2016-03-29T01:06:26 < ohsix> 2016-03-29T01:07:04 < ohsix> the news about this, if the producers of the documentary play it right, will have waaaayyy more people seeing it than would have at the film festival 2016-03-29T01:10:04 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2a00:801:205:beb0:a921:228b:3930:75e0] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-29T01:13:31 < Laurenceb_> dongs is asleep 2016-03-29T01:13:35 < Laurenceb_> arseleep 2016-03-29T01:15:20 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@33.137.7.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-29T01:16:40 < ohsix> i no 2016-03-29T01:16:51 < ohsix> i have a clock on the wall for each of my pals 2016-03-29T01:18:25 < zyp> nice 2016-03-29T01:18:30 < zyp> am I asleep now? 2016-03-29T01:18:42 < ohsix> no idea 2016-03-29T01:18:45 < ohsix> i need to get more clocks 2016-03-29T01:18:58 < ohsix> https://meowcad.com/ was ist das 2016-03-29T01:19:52 < zyp> upverter with cats 2016-03-29T01:20:52 < ohsix> looks kind of legit 2016-03-29T01:25:23 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T01:26:38 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T01:38:45 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Id5jMKQh0 musicspams I didn't know 2016-03-29T01:39:42 < ohsix> not available in this country 2016-03-29T01:39:48 < ohsix> but i've got that song and it's alright 2016-03-29T01:39:55 < ohsix> (this = USA) 2016-03-29T01:41:29 < ohsix> i actually stopped listening to a lot of electronic music when i got better speakers :[ 2016-03-29T01:42:31 < BrainDamage> crt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0 2016-03-29T01:42:53 < ohsix> i like arm so much i have 2 2016-03-29T01:45:25 < ohsix> BrainDamage: nice 2016-03-29T01:46:42 < ohsix> how is he reading the x coordinate? 2016-03-29T01:47:21 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T01:47:25 < ohsix> ah nm he says at 3:45 2016-03-29T01:47:37 < ohsix> one of the first things he does is write code to make coins == x coord 2016-03-29T01:48:09 < ohsix> this is like using switches on the front console to start an old micro 2016-03-29T01:49:28 < ohsix> that taskbot thing is cool, would have liked to known that; guess i'm not scene enough :[ 2016-03-29T01:51:20 < ohsix> you got me there 2016-03-29T01:53:08 < BrainDamage> which would redirect to ##stm32 2016-03-29T01:54:24 < ohsix> that redirect code is turing complete, you can do general computation with freenode channel redirects 2016-03-29T01:54:40 < ohsix> then you can make it write flappy bird code into smw 2016-03-29T01:55:37 < ohsix> smw as it is has bugs that let you do it, so it's still smw 2016-03-29T01:56:42 < ohsix> nope 2016-03-29T01:57:04 < ohsix> vaguely and apparently wrongly remembered being able to do it in the version i had 2016-03-29T02:01:34 < kakimir> good there is new irc buddies 2016-03-29T02:02:37 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X8Xfl0JdTQ new crash course philosophy video :< 2016-03-29T02:04:36 < kakimir> why you linkin this 2016-03-29T02:04:44 < ohsix> really? 2016-03-29T02:04:55 < ohsix> popper and frued? no? 2016-03-29T02:05:26 < kakimir> I was a high school philosophist 2016-03-29T02:05:31 < kakimir> that was enouhgt 2016-03-29T02:07:25 < ohsix> these videos are important yo, making it accessible and interesting even to dullards 2016-03-29T02:07:30 < ohsix> er present company excluded 2016-03-29T02:09:00 < kakimir> I'm still at getting my fx2 board to become spi master 2016-03-29T02:10:53 < kakimir> it's fx2 board 2016-03-29T02:10:58 < ohsix> it's a cypress miccccccccccccccccccontroller with an 8051 thing in it and fast usb2 2016-03-29T02:11:09 < kakimir> it's usb controller shiet 2016-03-29T02:11:17 < ohsix> it blasts bits yo 2016-03-29T02:11:26 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drsarmburwchtwyi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-29T02:12:04 < ohsix> if you put an r2r ladder on it you could generate a 7.5mhz 32butt output 2016-03-29T02:12:34 < ohsix> but that's dumb you'll probably be talking to a camera or something 2016-03-29T02:16:02 < kakimir> someone said the flash would be provided and I should just flash it and use butt can't really find one 2016-03-29T02:16:14 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-29T02:16:15 < kakimir> there is some example that plays with spi eeprom connected 2016-03-29T02:16:51 < ohsix> https://sigrok.org/wiki/Fx2lafw 2016-03-29T02:17:15 < ohsix> you basically just use it as fast gpio and write software on host 2016-03-29T02:17:27 < ohsix> though the fx2 can do spi itself with the 8051 2016-03-29T02:17:47 < ohsix> totes 2016-03-29T02:18:04 < kakimir> I rather have it as spi device in my lunix 2016-03-29T02:18:45 < kakimir> if there is no such thing ready available I may just code the counterpart board and test all at once 2016-03-29T02:18:57 < ohsix> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spi-summary 2016-03-29T02:19:10 < ohsix> https://www.kernel.org/doc/htmldocs/device-drivers/spi.html 2016-03-29T02:19:30 < ohsix> you can always make it perfect later, the point of the fx2 was to get it working quickly 2016-03-29T02:21:28 < kakimir> I don't see way to get it working quickly with fx2 2016-03-29T02:21:45 < kakimir> I don't know how to move that data in and out the chip 2016-03-29T02:21:55 < ohsix> libusb? 2016-03-29T02:22:02 < kakimir> never used 2016-03-29T02:22:16 < ohsix> o 2016-03-29T02:23:25 < kakimir> that is what can suddenly turn from hours to days 2016-03-29T02:23:27 < ohsix> https://github.com/djmuhlestein/fx2lib/tree/master/examples/bulkloop 2016-03-29T02:23:36 < ohsix> yea sorry ididn't consider that 2016-03-29T02:24:00 < kakimir> I think I saw some libusb codes 2016-03-29T02:24:13 < ohsix> hadn't someone already suggested the bit pirate or whatever fromd angerousprototypes 2016-03-29T02:24:18 < kakimir> that by lenght of the thing looked very easy 2016-03-29T02:24:19 < ohsix> bus pir8 2016-03-29T02:24:25 < kakimir> ohsix: no money 2016-03-29T02:26:52 < kakimir> besides bus pirate is a bit meh anyway 2016-03-29T02:27:33 < ohsix> it is but it's complete meh when you get it 2016-03-29T02:27:45 < ohsix> has a little onboard shell to let you move gpio around and set the parameters 2016-03-29T02:27:59 < ohsix> no libusb funny business 2016-03-29T02:28:12 < ohsix> anyways look at that link 2016-03-29T02:28:25 < ohsix> it sets up some bulk endpoints and just does shit 2016-03-29T02:28:38 < kakimir> okay fx2lib 2016-03-29T02:29:50 < kakimir> I think I can handle it from here 2016-03-29T02:30:58 < kakimir> maybe it's useful to take some look at this fx2 thing 2016-03-29T02:35:55 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-03-29T02:36:28 < kakimir> it has serious throughtput compared to some micros 2016-03-29T02:37:54 < ohsix> neat, mithro is on freenode, recognized the name 2016-03-29T02:40:14 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-29T02:41:19 < kakimir> hdmi2usb= 2016-03-29T02:44:05 < kakimir> https://blog.mithis.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HDMI2USB-Prod-V2.jpg 2016-03-29T02:44:33 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T02:45:16 < kakimir> ohsix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUuBtdoB1NQ 2016-03-29T02:45:18 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T02:46:00 < ohsix> wat 2016-03-29T02:48:18 < kakimir> I think mithro is name for muslim dude with beard like that 2016-03-29T02:48:42 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-29T02:48:45 < ohsix> no it's tim ansell 2016-03-29T02:49:07 < kakimir> I know 2016-03-29T02:49:18 < ohsix> aussie aussie aussie 2016-03-29T02:49:31 < ohsix> ah i see the hdmi usb stuff haha, didn't know what you were talking about 2016-03-29T02:50:46 < ohsix> Firmware for the FX2 which emulates the FTDI serial chips (including MPSSE support). 2016-03-29T02:50:51 < ohsix> you could use that heh 2016-03-29T02:51:25 < ohsix> https://github.com/mithro/impersonate_macaddress jejejeje someone is pirating eda software 2016-03-29T02:52:53 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T02:53:00 -!- piezo [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T02:53:00 -!- piezo is now known as piezoid 2016-03-29T02:54:20 < kakimir> ohsix: how it emulates? 2016-03-29T02:54:54 < kakimir> does it have hardware or some rom? there is software provided by vendor or third party? 2016-03-29T02:55:06 < ohsix> https://github.com/mithro/fx2-ftdi-emulation 2016-03-29T02:55:29 < ohsix> show up with right pid/vid, work with the driver so the software works 2016-03-29T02:56:09 < ohsix> ft2232h can do spi 2016-03-29T02:56:44 < ohsix> it's done the same way, though; just using fast gpio and talking to it over usb with libftdi (nee. libusb) 2016-03-29T02:56:47 < ohsix> bbl 2016-03-29T02:57:56 < kakimir> I think I rather have some little code running on fx2 and being controlled and read via serial device 2016-03-29T02:58:24 < kakimir> I don't have ft2232 2016-03-29T02:59:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T02:59:21 < kakimir> why it is nice? 2016-03-29T02:59:42 < zyp> I usually make a custom stm32 firmware when testing spi devices or similar 2016-03-29T03:00:19 < zyp> mapping custom usb control requests to send message and receive message, so host side doesn't need to care about framing 2016-03-29T03:01:13 < kakimir> I think it can become even easier to code physical protocol handler at fx2 and then write lunix code running on debug server that controls that protocol handler and runs the tests 2016-03-29T03:01:25 < kakimir> *on 2016-03-29T03:02:03 < zyp> why fx2? 2016-03-29T03:02:13 < kakimir> I have it laying around 2016-03-29T03:02:21 < zyp> I mean, it's common, but it's a shitty arch to work with 2016-03-29T03:02:54 < kakimir> there is some lib for it! 2016-03-29T03:03:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T03:03:27 < kakimir> why it's shitti? 2016-03-29T03:04:11 < zyp> because it's 8051 2016-03-29T03:04:34 < kakimir> it means it's golden 2016-03-29T03:04:41 < zyp> and the lack of internal flash sounds annoying too 2016-03-29T03:05:04 < kakimir> where is firmware? 2016-03-29T03:05:20 < zyp> in ram 2016-03-29T03:05:42 < zyp> bootloaded either over usb or from serial flash 2016-03-29T03:05:58 < kakimir> even better 2016-03-29T03:06:04 < kakimir> no flash 2016-03-29T03:07:49 < kakimir> it's how many usb devices actually work 2016-03-29T03:08:10 < kakimir> without a luxury of flash not needed 2016-03-29T03:08:47 < kakimir> but is there some eeprom at least for usb some shiet? 2016-03-29T03:08:51 < zyp> eh, that approach is good for some applications 2016-03-29T03:09:19 < kakimir> it's not good for some standard device 2016-03-29T03:10:30 < zyp> it makes firmware upgrades in multi-device-applications easy to handle, when you can store all the files on the host device, and bootload everything from there 2016-03-29T03:10:39 < zyp> instead of having to reflash each single unit 2016-03-29T03:11:10 < kakimir> can you bootload that chip from mcu on board? 2016-03-29T03:11:18 < zyp> dunno 2016-03-29T03:11:29 < zyp> but I believe it can also load from serial flash 2016-03-29T03:11:38 < kakimir> like you can bootload some fpgas 2016-03-29T03:11:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T03:11:51 < zyp> haven't worked much with it, just used a ton of devices based on it 2016-03-29T03:12:04 < zyp> yeah, it's really common in fpga+usb-setups 2016-03-29T03:12:10 < kakimir> mcu feeding it that bitstream 2016-03-29T03:12:24 < zyp> first bootload the fx2, then bootload the fpga through the fx2, all over same usb connection 2016-03-29T03:13:04 < zyp> but I mean, you could do this with stm32 as well if you wanted to 2016-03-29T03:13:27 < zyp> not that the memory architecture of stm32 makes it advantageous to run code from ram 2016-03-29T03:13:47 < zyp> but considering fx2 only got 16k ram total, it'll still be as good :p 2016-03-29T03:15:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T03:18:01 < kakimir> as usb micro it does almost all you would do with to say stm32 2016-03-29T03:18:29 -!- inca [uid154621@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-frzfdxtnbseeoers] has quit [] 2016-03-29T03:18:29 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2016-03-29T03:19:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T03:20:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T03:20:29 < kakimir> or when you use it as usb controller for some wider system 2016-03-29T03:21:49 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-29T03:23:07 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T03:23:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T03:24:06 < kakimir> maybe it's time to sleep 2016-03-29T03:24:15 < zyp> good idea 2016-03-29T03:24:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T03:25:03 < kakimir> daylight saving is weird thing 2016-03-29T03:25:33 < kakimir> I don't know which way the clock moved and I feel a bit fukken by it 2016-03-29T03:25:49 < zyp> eh, not weird in itself, just weird that it's still practiced 2016-03-29T03:26:13 < zyp> DST is +1 hour wrt. winter time 2016-03-29T03:27:15 < zyp> .fi is normally UTC+2, UTC+2+DST is UTC+3 2016-03-29T03:27:30 < kakimir> what is clock now in winter time? 2016-03-29T03:27:43 < kakimir> +1? 2016-03-29T03:28:15 < zyp> one hour less than summer time 2016-03-29T03:28:43 < kakimir> shiet 2016-03-29T03:28:56 < kakimir> I don't know what that means for my life 2016-03-29T03:29:06 < zyp> nothing? 2016-03-29T03:29:06 < kakimir> is it good or bad 2016-03-29T03:30:15 < kakimir> and when to sleep 2016-03-29T03:38:16 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#/media/File:DaylightSaving-World-Subdivisions.png you see there is some wise nations marked with red that never went using this nonsense 2016-03-29T03:45:24 -!- LeelooMinai [~leeloo@184-175-46-197.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-29T03:45:51 < zyp> do they even have clocks in africa? 2016-03-29T03:47:37 < kakimir> no 2016-03-29T04:00:07 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T04:08:17 < Laurenceb_> they ate the clocks 2016-03-29T04:13:05 < dongs> http://www.livememe.com/e0j3vz5.jpg 2016-03-29T04:19:52 < Laurenceb_> livememe 2016-03-29T04:19:54 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-03-29T04:25:51 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-162-54.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-03-29T04:27:55 < Laurenceb_> what is b1 and b2? 2016-03-29T04:29:31 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-03-29T04:30:04 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T04:30:18 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-162-54.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T04:33:08 < aandrew> crt: sounds like a productive day 2016-03-29T04:33:25 < dongs> aandrew: how's lattice shit compared to stinklinx 2016-03-29T04:33:33 < dongs> is software noticeably better or is it just as aids 2016-03-29T04:33:53 < Laurenceb_> I hate javascript 2016-03-29T04:34:04 < Laurenceb_> why did firefox just try to grab 2.8GB of ram 2016-03-29T04:34:52 < Laurenceb_> literally every website 2016-03-29T04:35:30 < Laurenceb_> cant we just use pdfs 2016-03-29T04:36:03 < aandrew> dongs: it's a different bag of shit, but still a bag of shit 2016-03-29T04:38:26 < dongs> aandrew: does it at least run on win10 2016-03-29T04:38:44 < dongs> i mean xininx basically EOL'd 99% of their usable cpld/fpga portfolio by not making ISE run above win7 2016-03-29T04:38:51 < aandrew> *I* haven't run win10 yet. I couldn't tell you 2016-03-29T04:38:56 < dongs> how about 8 2016-03-29T04:39:17 < aandrew> I've briefly run 8.1 but not used Diamond or ISE or Vivado on it. I've run all three on Win7 2016-03-29T04:39:41 < dongs> aids. 2016-03-29T04:39:56 < dongs> win7 is dead as shit 2016-03-29T04:40:00 < dongs> why do people keep clinging to it 2016-03-29T04:40:13 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-03-29T04:40:17 < aandrew> I like it 2016-03-29T04:40:27 < aandrew> win8 is almos like 7 once you get rid of the touch interface bullshit 2016-03-29T04:40:27 < Laurenceb_> everyone uses win7 in PROfessional environment 2016-03-29T04:42:23 < Laurenceb_> I use lunix 2016-03-29T04:43:33 < dongs> aandrew: you miss the fucking point if first thing you want ot do in windows 8 is "get rid of touch interface" 2016-03-29T04:43:39 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-03-29T04:43:45 < Laurenceb_> dongs likes touch 2016-03-29T04:43:48 < Laurenceb_> freak 2016-03-29T04:45:49 < Laurenceb_> arg why is it suddenly impossible ot make a web browser 2016-03-29T04:45:56 < Laurenceb_> I'm going back to winxp and ei6 2016-03-29T04:45:59 < Laurenceb_> *ie 2016-03-29T04:46:19 < Laurenceb_> dont have enough ram to relaunch firefox 2016-03-29T04:46:29 < Laurenceb_> I have 8GB 2016-03-29T04:47:22 < ReadError> ppfft 2016-03-29T04:47:27 < ReadError> 8gb, its 2016 2016-03-29T04:47:29 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-29T04:47:34 < Laurenceb_> le current year 2016-03-29T04:47:40 < ReadError> yes 2016-03-29T04:47:46 < ReadError> you need 16 or 32gb 2016-03-29T04:47:47 < ReadError> min 2016-03-29T04:47:57 < Laurenceb_> HOW CAN A WEB BROWSER USE THAT MUCH 2016-03-29T04:48:17 < ReadError> it just can 2016-03-29T04:48:22 < Laurenceb_> full rage mode 2016-03-29T04:48:25 < ReadError> use the great suspender 2016-03-29T04:48:31 < ReadError> i can have 1000 tabs open 2016-03-29T04:48:42 < Laurenceb_> the great suspender? 2016-03-29T04:48:45 < ReadError> it just sleepers them if i dont view for a while 2016-03-29T04:48:46 < Laurenceb_> this sounds good 2016-03-29T04:48:56 < Laurenceb_> hmm I'll grab :D 2016-03-29T04:49:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-29T04:49:18 < ReadError> 18 windows, 412 tabs: 28th March 2016 2016-03-29T04:49:24 < ReadError> not as high as normal 2016-03-29T04:49:27 < dongs> wehen they invent time machines ill go back and murder the shithead who came up wiht tabbed browsing. 2016-03-29T04:49:45 < dongs> because you need every app to manage their own windows, in their own way 2016-03-29T04:52:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T04:53:28 < dongs> fuck 2016-03-29T04:53:33 < dongs> absolutely rage-inducing bug in calc.exe in win10 2016-03-29T04:53:42 < dongs> when you copypaste a string of shit to calculate 2016-03-29T04:53:44 < dongs> liek 10+20+30 2016-03-29T04:53:46 < dongs> and press enter 2016-03-29T04:53:55 < dongs> instead of calcculating result, it opens side tab 2016-03-29T04:54:00 < dongs> of switching calc modes. 2016-03-29T04:54:23 < ohsix> hello diabetes 2016-03-29T04:55:40 < dongs> hello autism, luckily im leaving soon 2016-03-29T04:57:05 < Sync> trolled dongs 2016-03-29T04:58:00 < Laurenceb_> I just use gnu-octave 2016-03-29T04:58:10 < Laurenceb_> way more useful than calc.exe 2016-03-29T05:00:15 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, i thought you did all your calcs in hand coded pic32 asm? 2016-03-29T05:01:23 < ohsix> dongs: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/244ixj/my_motherinlaw_asked_me_to_created_a_bee_logo_for/ 2016-03-29T05:03:01 < ohsix> http://www.modsfallout4.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Dickbutts-Last-Resort-Fallout-4-Immersion-Overhaul-1-3.jpg 2016-03-29T05:05:51 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-29T05:08:29 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-29T05:10:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:cc16:d8ca:e8f1:6bdc] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-29T05:12:50 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T05:13:43 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T05:13:48 < ohsix> i saw a guy at walmart using a boosted board to push cart around 2016-03-29T05:16:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCK6zvWEN_Q 2016-03-29T05:16:47 < Laurenceb_> today I learnt that this meme is real 2016-03-29T05:17:42 < aandrew> what the fuck 2016-03-29T05:18:38 < Laurenceb_> sweden yes 2016-03-29T05:19:05 < ohsix> art 2016-03-29T05:21:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-29T05:29:40 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, i bet its tasty cake 2016-03-29T05:34:45 < ohsix> dongs: how come you haven't printed dickbutt.obj with that 3d printer 2016-03-29T05:39:32 < ohsix> uhh i think i'm in a google a/b test 2016-03-29T05:39:41 < ohsix> i have save/view saved buttons in google image search 2016-03-29T05:39:48 < ohsix> https://i.imgur.com/tYQFLx7.jpg 2016-03-29T05:40:10 < ohsix> anyone else see those :[ 2016-03-29T05:41:59 < ohsix> i think google is going after imgur and making image search socialtarded 2016-03-29T05:45:49 < ohsix> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/57787037.jpg 2016-03-29T05:56:33 < ReadError> i need to do my mountain board 2016-03-29T05:56:40 < ReadError> should be fun this summer 2016-03-29T05:56:51 < ReadError> 2x motors, 2x VESC 2016-03-29T05:57:30 < ohsix> pneumatic wheelz? 2016-03-29T05:57:50 < ReadError> yea i think they are inflated 2016-03-29T05:58:45 < ohsix> don't wanna go too nuts, can't do as much damage as an offroad vehicle but it might get close ;D 2016-03-29T05:59:45 < ReadError> oh you can fuck yourself up on these good im sure 2016-03-29T05:59:49 < ohsix> you saw the great scott videos where he put a sprocket on a skateboard and stuff right 2016-03-29T05:59:56 < ReadError> yea 2016-03-29T06:00:05 < ohsix> a mountainboard is going to have clearance for hours of batteries 2016-03-29T06:00:05 < ReadError> but I want to use belts 2016-03-29T06:00:10 < ReadError> proper machined mounts 2016-03-29T06:00:15 < ohsix> he did 2016-03-29T06:00:34 < ohsix> the part where you drill a wheel to attach it seems hokey 2me but it works 2016-03-29T06:01:09 < ReadError> ya 2016-03-29T06:01:10 < ohsix> that carbon fiber you have will probably do more than adequate jerb 2016-03-29T06:01:29 < ReadError> now that I got a vac pump 2016-03-29T06:01:37 < Laurenceb_> I wnet down a hill on a mountainboard once 2016-03-29T06:01:38 < ohsix> you could probably make the sprockets out of it even 2016-03-29T06:01:40 < ReadError> I may see about doin a ply/cf layup 2016-03-29T06:01:50 < ReadError> and molded batt compartment 2016-03-29T06:01:52 < Laurenceb_> got up to ~40mph then wheel oscillation kicked in 2016-03-29T06:02:10 < Laurenceb_> got thrown off and nearly smashed my skull on a concrete bollard 2016-03-29T06:02:24 < Laurenceb_> luckily I survived to troll irc 2016-03-29T06:02:27 < ohsix> why do you have bollards in the woods 2016-03-29T06:02:42 < PeterM> ReadError, i've always wodnered why they dont do lithium backpacks for things like eboards 2016-03-29T06:02:56 < ohsix> butt fires are serious 2016-03-29T06:03:04 < ReadError> PeterM yea I was thinking about doing that 2016-03-29T06:03:07 < PeterM> powertool styles do it jsut fine http://www.stihlusa.com/products/batteries-and-accessories/batteries/ar900/ 2016-03-29T06:03:10 < ReadError> as an optional 2016-03-29T06:03:14 < Laurenceb_> I dunno if motorized mountainboard would actually work 2016-03-29T06:03:18 < ReadError> maybe it fucks with your CG a lot 2016-03-29T06:03:22 < Laurenceb_> the suspension seems to oscillate 2016-03-29T06:03:27 < PeterM> i doubt it 2016-03-29T06:03:32 < ReadError> cant imagine too much though 2016-03-29T06:03:40 < ReadError> people are probably skinny nerds 2016-03-29T06:03:50 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: you can change the bushings if you're a fatty fat fat mcfatterson 2016-03-29T06:03:58 < ReadError> and cant haul the weight 2016-03-29T06:04:04 < Laurenceb_> no my BMI is liek 23 2016-03-29T06:04:07 < PeterM> or too fat they need all the weight savings they can get 2016-03-29T06:04:18 < Laurenceb_> its broken by design 2016-03-29T06:04:26 < ReadError> too bad I cant get cheap batteries now ^.^ 2016-03-29T06:04:31 < ohsix> it? 2016-03-29T06:04:39 < Laurenceb_> and its not a matter of controlling it when it oscillated at ~15hz 2016-03-29T06:04:39 < ohsix> ReadError: laptop batteries from ebay??? 2016-03-29T06:04:45 < PeterM> ReadError, did you not fuckign read what i said 2016-03-29T06:04:50 < ReadError> might just have to get some 10,000mah 1s packs 2016-03-29T06:04:58 < ReadError> err, cells 2016-03-29T06:05:02 < Laurenceb_> ur gunna get a smashed skull 2016-03-29T06:05:04 < PeterM> it onl;y applies to air freight oin passenger aircraft 2016-03-29T06:05:05 < ReadError> and build packs 2016-03-29T06:05:19 < ReadError> PeterM nah i mean, fasttech being cacks 2016-03-29T06:05:22 < PeterM> companies like DHERL have their own gargo planes 2016-03-29T06:05:25 < ReadError> and the amount of fakes 2016-03-29T06:05:28 < PeterM> you can ship whatever the fuck batts you like 2016-03-29T06:05:43 < ReadError> let me see if I have a pic of these 'efest' 2016-03-29T06:05:45 < ReadError> omg 2016-03-29T06:07:00 < PeterM> also, if i was going mountain board, i'd buy some of these and split them into 3x 30ah 4s packs http://www.hybridautocenter.com/HAC4/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=category&task=listing&cid=14&name=lithium-batteries-and-packs&Itemid=605 2016-03-29T06:08:39 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HSKlfk1h/1459220916.JPG 2016-03-29T06:09:19 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0pdGwQaI/1459220955.JPG 2016-03-29T06:09:35 < PeterM> yes? 2016-03-29T06:09:54 < ReadError> the lighter one, was $1.20 2016-03-29T06:09:58 < ReadError> shipped... 2016-03-29T06:10:16 < ReadError> im just wondering how bootleg they really are 2016-03-29T06:10:29 < PeterM> probably super bootleg 2016-03-29T06:10:32 < ReadError> like, bursting in to flames bad 2016-03-29T06:10:35 < PeterM> like 800mah or so bootleg 2016-03-29T06:10:39 < ReadError> or just useless 2016-03-29T06:10:42 < PeterM> bursting itno flames bootleg 2016-03-29T06:11:47 < PeterM> i mean if you try to pull 10c from a 2500mah battery (25a) and the battery is only 800mah thats liek 32C 2016-03-29T06:11:51 < PeterM> shits not gonna liek it 2016-03-29T06:12:25 < ReadError> PeterM hmm not bad (hybrid packs) 2016-03-29T06:12:49 < ReadError> would def need to rebuild them, voltage is way low 2016-03-29T06:13:00 < PeterM> each pack is 4x 30Ah cells 2016-03-29T06:13:26 < PeterM> so can be either 7.2v 60ah, 3.6v 120ah, 14.4v 30 ah kinda thing 2016-03-29T06:13:28 < ReadError> oh wait 2016-03-29T06:13:39 < ReadError> hmm so at most thats 4s 2016-03-29T06:13:45 < PeterM> yes 2016-03-29T06:13:46 < ReadError> instead of 2s2p 2016-03-29T06:13:49 < ReadError> still kinda low ;/ 2016-03-29T06:13:53 < PeterM> use 3 2016-03-29T06:14:07 < PeterM> how wide is your mountain board at widest? 2016-03-29T06:14:20 < ReadError> not bought/built one yet 2016-03-29T06:14:35 < PeterM> i reckon oyu could fit 3 packs under it 2016-03-29T06:14:41 < PeterM> and get 12s 30ah 2016-03-29T06:14:49 < PeterM> ride for DAYZ 2016-03-29T06:15:40 < ReadError> hmm it does support 12s 2016-03-29T06:15:58 < PeterM> yeah 2016-03-29T06:16:00 < ReadError> could go full aspietard and use 4 motors 2016-03-29T06:16:04 < PeterM> no 2016-03-29T06:16:12 < ohsix> you don't benefit from more than 2 2016-03-29T06:16:29 < ohsix> unless you want traction control 2016-03-29T06:16:32 < ohsix> lewl 2016-03-29T06:16:40 < ReadError> ya getting weight on the front would be harder 2016-03-29T06:16:45 < ReadError> yea thats what i was thinkin 2016-03-29T06:16:48 < ohsix> i bet you could just mould wheels on an outrunner 2016-03-29T06:16:58 < ReadError> something to detect the wheel slipping 2016-03-29T06:17:37 < PeterM> dont oyu do 2 moptors, diagonally oposite 2016-03-29T06:17:52 < PeterM> so you dont have as much trouble with gettign weight balance right 2016-03-29T06:17:56 < PeterM> for best traction 2016-03-29T06:17:56 < ReadError> ill probably end up 2 in the back 2016-03-29T06:18:02 < ohsix> get autistic after it already works 2016-03-29T06:18:09 < ohsix> amidoinitrite 2016-03-29T06:18:40 < PeterM> no 2016-03-29T06:22:48 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T06:38:17 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-74-51.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T06:39:36 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-162-54.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T06:50:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T06:58:35 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T07:01:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T07:04:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.148] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-29T07:05:07 < ohsix> anamanaguchi's album 'release' is cool 2016-03-29T07:05:24 < ohsix> http://www.destructoid.com/anamanaguchi-leaks-its-own-game-after-strained-developer-relations-351424.phtml 2016-03-29T07:09:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T07:13:56 < ohsix> ReadError: there are tiny magnetic clutches you can get, saw one on car ac unit 2016-03-29T07:14:05 < ohsix> like a brake you can pwm 2016-03-29T07:14:40 < ohsix> abs bruv 2016-03-29T07:21:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T07:21:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T07:22:30 < dongs> come back, see nothing but highlights of spam 2016-03-29T07:25:26 < PeterM> damnit why are reels for 1812 caps so friggin huge 2016-03-29T07:25:32 < ReadError> oh damn 2016-03-29T07:25:41 < ReadError> offtopic police here whooop whooop 2016-03-29T07:25:51 < PeterM> the spaces between caps o nthe tapes are huge 2016-03-29T07:26:37 < dongs> the fuck is 1812 2016-03-29T07:26:42 < dongs> whats that in freedom units 2016-03-29T07:26:44 < dongs> 3216? 2016-03-29T07:26:45 < PeterM> house bricks 2016-03-29T07:26:54 < PeterM> 4532 or something 2016-03-29T07:26:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T07:27:28 < PeterM> nah like 50% more 2016-03-29T07:28:21 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T07:28:30 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnyiwyjpevccvkgn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-29T07:28:55 < PeterM> reel of 1000 1812 is like reel of 5000 1206 2016-03-29T07:29:58 < ohsix> urmom spammed me once 2016-03-29T07:30:00 < ohsix> didn't like it 2016-03-29T07:30:17 < ohsix> dongs: that bee thing was made up is all 2016-03-29T07:30:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@c-73-42-162-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T07:38:45 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T07:40:45 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T07:42:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T07:46:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T07:53:09 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T07:53:25 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/408/024/68bd6306b63b4225b5e87605b3e40e73_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1456204795&auto=format&q=92&s=b33b9b218d7bea77a49bba9267412a7a audiophile alert 2016-03-29T07:55:26 < ohsix> is that stm32 whatever 2016-03-29T07:55:35 < dongs> acutally, yes 2016-03-29T07:55:38 < ohsix> i can't do anything right 2016-03-29T07:55:47 < ohsix> h3h 2016-03-29T07:55:49 < ohsix> ambisonics? 2016-03-29T07:55:56 < dongs> HRTF 2016-03-29T07:56:02 < ohsix> it is a thing and is legit but you can't just make up channels that aren't there 2016-03-29T07:56:06 < ohsix> sameish shit 2016-03-29T07:56:15 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/408/176/50396603c50de857139fc41da1e4e9ad_original.gif?w=680&fit=max&v=1456207635&q=92&s=b43e1d47a4f921e48157d48676aeed50 2016-03-29T07:56:19 < ohsix> all you can do is render an 'ideal' speaker placement for x channels 2016-03-29T07:56:29 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/408/422/6ed04fe0a023e6ecf8663f102ce6ff95_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1456213718&auto=format&q=92&s=06060ea630cb38eb8f45e8b1059ba63d 2016-03-29T07:56:40 < ohsix> don't need multiple drivers for that 2016-03-29T07:56:45 < ohsix> and actually that will cause problems 2016-03-29T07:58:27 < dongs> oh, ambisonic is mentioned 2016-03-29T07:59:01 < dongs> We already have a prototype FMOD plug-in running, and it sounds great and operates efficiently. We are testing it with some early developers now. We would love to hear from you! Please fill out the survey to prioritize roll-out for the different platforms: Unity, Unreal, FMOD, Wwise, VST, AU, and/or others. 2016-03-29T07:59:06 < dongs> whats fmod 2016-03-29T07:59:08 < dongs> is that the mod player engine thingy/ 2016-03-29T08:00:05 < dongs> HRTF headphone 3D audio via Two Big Ears 3DCeption technology, and other 3rd party plugins 2016-03-29T08:00:08 < dongs> fmod already does this 2016-03-29T08:00:13 < dongs> where does this shit even fit in 2016-03-29T08:00:18 < dongs> they're gonna hrtf on top of hrtf 2016-03-29T08:01:08 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLHR9PL_wzI 2016-03-29T08:03:33 < ohsix> they're doing nothing if they need to add engine support 2016-03-29T08:03:43 < ohsix> all of those engines already do hrtf, they're likely just doing channel layouts 2016-03-29T08:06:06 < dongs> OSSIC X has excellent sound quality. Because they match the way you normally hear, they do not sound like any headphone you have heard before. They sound like real-life. 2016-03-29T08:07:15 < ohsix> what's their demo, old ipod earbuds? 2016-03-29T08:07:34 < ohsix> i got hd280s and they're really far from high end and they're swoosh 2016-03-29T08:08:04 < ohsix> they won't touch them, they'll just have the tech/game stuff as a fabricated 'feature' that other headphones won't have 2016-03-29T08:08:33 < ohsix> in vista+ you can actually do hrtf and channel layouts for something like those headphones with the pack in apos 2016-03-29T08:10:32 < ohsix> http://www.avclub.com/article/comedians-celebrate-garry-shandling-pickup-basketb-234460 2016-03-29T08:10:49 < dongs> totally stm32 releated. 2016-03-29T08:10:54 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-29T08:11:05 < ohsix> i saw it on ##stm32 on freenode 2016-03-29T08:11:50 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T08:12:05 < ohsix> he was awesome 2016-03-29T08:13:13 < ohsix> gimme kickstarter link so i can be done with it olol 2016-03-29T08:20:45 < dongs> ossic kinda sounds like ohsix. 2016-03-29T08:20:54 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/248983394/ossic-x-the-first-3d-audio-headphones-calibrated-t 2016-03-29T08:21:16 < ohsix> if you knew anything you know it isn't phonetic bro 2016-03-29T08:21:26 < ohsix> only big nerds read it that way 2016-03-29T08:21:45 < dongs> i can read it as autism6 if you prefer 2016-03-29T08:22:22 < ohsix> how do you calibrate these 2016-03-29T08:22:27 < ohsix> that doesn't make sense 2016-03-29T08:22:35 < dongs> to your head 2016-03-29T08:24:36 < ohsix> there's nothing to calibrate 2016-03-29T08:25:16 < ohsix> heh head tracking 2016-03-29T08:25:36 < ohsix> that is newish but still an easy thing to do with existing sound software 2016-03-29T08:26:35 < ohsix> Hear your music exactly how the artist intended. 2016-03-29T08:26:36 < ohsix> :< 2016-03-29T08:27:34 < ohsix> the interaural distance is one of the variables that doesn't actually matter that much 2016-03-29T08:28:07 < ohsix> it is a slight delay/phase, and it can be one foot or 6 inches, and still extremely small vs. speed of sound 2016-03-29T08:28:40 < PeterM> im not listening to music standing in a puddle of warm beer, surrounded by retards, in the middle of a feild so it isnt hoiw the arrtist intended 2016-03-29T08:29:15 < ohsix> the artist isn't the person doing the mixing anyways 2016-03-29T08:29:26 < PeterM> mmhm 2016-03-29T08:30:00 < ohsix> unless they're neil young! 2016-03-29T08:30:27 < ohsix> it's going to be the studio people / producer 2016-03-29T08:32:44 < ohsix> Acoustical, physics-based testing. With a microphone in the ear, does the headphone reproduce the same signal as a real sound in space? Here we compared the OSSIC X to a gaming headphone. 2016-03-29T08:32:56 < ohsix> this might get them sued 2016-03-29T08:33:31 < ohsix> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/408/290/9f5089f367ba86f2e16194bca7661b1b_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1456209890&auto=format&q=92&s=a909fa3723585902fac0b85e343b0ab6 2016-03-29T08:33:36 < ohsix> anechoic chamber :[ 2016-03-29T08:33:52 < ohsix> the dsign is neat though, i bet you can find original in china 2016-03-29T08:34:32 < ohsix> In gaming engines, the sounds can be tied to any objects or characters, and these are already natively positioned in 3D. Currently these sounds get compressed to, at most, 7 channels (and a subwoofer) on a ring around the listener. We are designing plugins that let natively 3D audio pass through to the listener. 2016-03-29T08:34:35 < ohsix> this is dicks too 2016-03-29T08:34:50 < ohsix> they do vertical panning in those mixes 2016-03-29T08:35:21 < ohsix> it's a ring of speakers that is proxy for sound emitters in 3 dimensional space 2016-03-29T08:35:54 < ohsix> you'd be surprised (not) how often things don't go directly over your head in movies and games and shit 2016-03-29T08:37:34 < ohsix> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/408/303/c5dc17fb3fd72b1d28302a795b51ba3f_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1456210172&auto=format&q=92&s=e9f2d4024714bf2373b2c48119217873 wut 2016-03-29T08:37:44 < ohsix> speakers behind ear plane in the rear 2016-03-29T08:39:07 < ohsix> In research it is known that your HRTF can be quantified in an anechoic chamber with hours of calibration measurements and this can be played back to make you believe that sound is coming from any location. However, despite this knowledge there was a chasm between what is known and what is available to consumers. This was our frustration and is why we founded OSSIC. 2016-03-29T08:39:18 < ohsix> haha 2016-03-29T08:39:34 < dongs> chasm 2016-03-29T08:39:41 < ohsix> literally every fucking phone and computer does hrtf 2016-03-29T08:39:59 < ohsix> The HRTF, or Head Related Transfer Function, is how you hear spatial sound. It is the difference between sound at an empty point in space, and sound at your ear with your body interacting with the soundfield. 2016-03-29T08:41:39 < ohsix> how 2 match the way you normally hear 2016-03-29T08:42:04 < ohsix> the great bit about these things is that the claims will never be investigated scientifically 2016-03-29T08:43:44 < ohsix> the websites who's logo they use should do trademark enforcement 2016-03-29T08:45:27 < ohsix> people don't seem to realize that they could be better off with a simpler sound model in games because of the lower latency, panning alone already gives really good positional cues 2016-03-29T08:47:15 < ohsix> dongs: they say the spatialized stereo is as good as anything else it could potentially do in some of the comments 2016-03-29T08:47:45 < ohsix> the only real risk on this one is them not having good audio elements for the asking price 2016-03-29T08:47:53 < dongs> sure 2016-03-29T08:48:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-184-206.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T08:48:23 < ohsix> they 2016-03-29T08:48:38 < ohsix> they have a lot of room to fuck with equalization and shit in software though 2016-03-29T08:48:58 < ohsix> they could make real marginal stuff not sound horrible 2016-03-29T08:52:58 -!- GeorgeHahn [~GeorgeHah@c-69-141-92-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T09:08:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-184-206.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-29T09:09:23 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/c7XFJMj.jpg 2016-03-29T09:12:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:e557:2e24:40a8:74fb] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:13:16 < emeb_mac> shit is fucked up 2016-03-29T09:14:07 < ohsix> you mean made up? 2016-03-29T09:14:57 < emeb_mac> of course it is 2016-03-29T09:18:47 < dongs> PeterM: i dont get it. seen it be fore too 2016-03-29T09:19:06 < ohsix> the joke is that he works with a terrorist 2016-03-29T09:19:33 < ohsix> and that there are so many muslims that are terrorists, if you were humming something they would jihad with you 2016-03-29T09:29:46 < ohsix> wow wat 2016-03-29T09:29:53 < ohsix> avago bought broadcom 2016-03-29T09:30:17 < dongs> ages ago 2016-03-29T09:30:30 < emeb_mac> dat 2016-03-29T09:31:35 < ohsix> that's one of those things i thought i had heard of but didn't register 2016-03-29T09:32:11 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:32:12 < ohsix> i was still talking about 'broadcom' doing things when talking about the pi but nobody said anything :[ 2016-03-29T09:32:14 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T09:32:18 < ohsix> +a few weeks ago 2016-03-29T09:32:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-29T09:32:47 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:33:05 < PeterM> are broadcom even relevant now? 2016-03-29T09:33:10 < ohsix> good thing it was in singapore, wouldn't want those pesky regulators here to intervene 2016-03-29T09:33:12 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-29T09:33:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:33:25 < ohsix> they're in the baseband of billions of phones 2016-03-29T09:33:36 < ohsix> they sell ip for so much shit it is nuts 2016-03-29T09:34:10 < ohsix> they're kind of like renesas in that respect, when was the last time you saw a renesas part in anything 2016-03-29T09:34:55 < ohsix> i saw a transistor in a radio once 2016-03-29T09:35:03 < ohsix> that was all i've personally ever seen 2016-03-29T09:35:21 < ohsix> but they're all up in car ecus and automation 2016-03-29T09:36:32 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T09:38:50 < PeterM> ohsix, thats qualcomm oyu'rethinking of 2016-03-29T09:40:17 < ohsix> not in the baseband, but yea 2016-03-29T09:40:18 < ohsix> http://linleygroup.com/newsletters/newsletter_detail.php?num=5206&year=2014&tag=2 2016-03-29T09:41:35 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:46:46 < dongs> hmmm 2016-03-29T09:48:31 < ohsix> loool i just noticed at that link they bought it from renesas 2016-03-29T09:48:36 < dongs> lattice surely has some cheap stuff hmm 2016-03-29T09:48:36 < ohsix> guess i should read 2016-03-29T09:48:55 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.57.159] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:49:16 < ohsix> what are you researching dongs 2016-03-29T09:49:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-29T09:50:22 < ohsix> the lattice ice40 fpgas are the ones you can do a little bit of open source on too 2016-03-29T09:51:10 < dongs> need to do some multiport dmx stuff 2016-03-29T09:51:20 < ohsix> how many ports 2016-03-29T09:51:25 < dongs> lots 2016-03-29T09:51:27 < ohsix> cplds can do lots 2016-03-29T09:51:31 < ohsix> oic 2016-03-29T09:51:31 < dongs> yes 2016-03-29T09:51:35 < dongs> cpld is all i'd need for this 2016-03-29T09:51:41 < ohsix> werdup 2016-03-29T09:52:10 < ohsix> those are basically standardized and you can get parts anywhere 2016-03-29T09:52:13 < ohsix> by uhh 2016-03-29T09:52:23 < dongs> no, youre thinking that ancient shit 2016-03-29T09:52:25 < ohsix> the same people that do dram 2016-03-29T09:52:26 < dongs> GAL or wahtever 2016-03-29T09:52:27 < dongs> no 2016-03-29T09:52:44 < ohsix> not all of them are, but no; i'm thinking of new stuff 2016-03-29T09:52:45 < dongs> cplds are just as non-standard as fpga from each vendor 2016-03-29T09:52:45 < ohsix> sec 2016-03-29T09:53:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T09:55:20 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/lattice-semiconductor-corporation/ICE40UL640-SWG16ITR50/220-1961-1-ND/5155600 i mean wtf 2016-03-29T09:58:03 < dongs> i wonder how afwul the tools are 2016-03-29T09:58:37 < jpa-> the icecube is only semi-awful 2016-03-29T09:58:54 < jpa-> but fortunately there is an open source toolchain for ICE40 to satisfy dongs 2016-03-29T10:00:07 < ohsix> dongs loves open source 2016-03-29T10:00:16 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:00:28 < ohsix> dongs: ya i can't find the thing i was thinking of, may as well have been pals/gals 2016-03-29T10:00:33 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T10:02:39 < dongs> it had to be 2016-03-29T10:02:44 < dongs> its the only thing that was "standartized" 2016-03-29T10:02:48 < dongs> with some standard bitstream shit 2016-03-29T10:02:52 < dongs> and china programmers 2016-03-29T10:04:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:06:00 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:06:44 < dongs> ohsix, whats fusion-mpt is that a technology or brand name 2016-03-29T10:06:53 < ohsix> azonenberg comes up a lot when you google fpga stuff 2016-03-29T10:06:57 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-29T10:07:00 < dongs> yeah that fucking poser 2016-03-29T10:07:12 < ohsix> technology but ont vaguely remember what it is 2016-03-29T10:07:18 < dongs> astonerberg: talk a lot on irc and make a clone of xilinx nexys board 2016-03-29T10:07:22 < dongs> then t alk even more about it 2016-03-29T10:07:27 < dongs> then talk more about his phd and how its so great. 2016-03-29T10:07:52 < ohsix> that's what he does though 2016-03-29T10:08:01 < ohsix> like his work and research and shit 2016-03-29T10:08:13 < ohsix> This file presents general information about the LSI Logic Fusion-MPT (TM) 2016-03-29T10:08:14 < ohsix> (Message Passing Technology) device drivers for Linux(TM). 2016-03-29T10:08:15 < dongs> ":research" 2016-03-29T10:08:28 < ohsix> yea dude 2016-03-29T10:08:32 < dongs> one needs to have skills and knowledge to research 2016-03-29T10:08:34 < ohsix> he's got published papers 2016-03-29T10:08:39 < dongs> not just be a dumb poser on irc 2016-03-29T10:08:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-29T10:09:09 < dongs> hm 2016-03-29T10:09:12 < dongs> so did someone buy lsilogic 2016-03-29T10:09:20 < dongs> cuz avago now makes "Fusion-MPT" stuff 2016-03-29T10:09:26 < ohsix> http://google.com/patents/EP2681116A1?cl=un and patents 2016-03-29T10:10:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:11:03 < ohsix> http://gradworks.umi.com/37/05/3705663.html 2016-03-29T10:11:12 < ohsix> all the things you like about him in one paper 2016-03-29T10:11:48 < dongs> lol fucking whitehat shithead 2016-03-29T10:13:53 < dongs> is that rpi.edu? 2016-03-29T10:17:14 < ohsix> that's where he was and afair still teaches at 2016-03-29T10:17:57 < ohsix> you're making me talk him up, i don't really care; but if someone has published something it's kind of a big deal 2016-03-29T10:18:08 < ohsix> i didn't even know about the patent 2016-03-29T10:20:29 < ohsix> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-cores-fpga-bitcoin-miner/730738103.html 2016-03-29T10:21:17 < zyp> isn't that outdated as fuck? 2016-03-29T10:21:33 < ohsix> isn't bitcoin? 2016-03-29T10:21:46 < zyp> bitcoin miners have been using custom ASICs for years AFAIK 2016-03-29T10:22:25 < zyp> my guess is that FPGA based miners are too slow to have any chance of profitability nowadays 2016-03-29T10:23:08 < ohsix> didn't you hear about the blockchain crisis 2016-03-29T10:24:18 < dongs> lol @ that link 2016-03-29T10:24:21 < dongs> it didnt work at first 2016-03-29T10:24:31 < dongs> btw, ohsix http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/730738103.html 2016-03-29T10:24:36 < dongs> this is usally better to surprise 2016-03-29T10:25:22 < ohsix> werdup 2016-03-29T10:25:33 < ohsix> it's also not available 2016-03-29T10:25:51 < ohsix> if you search for open source fpga related stuff it ranks pretty high on google 2016-03-29T10:26:11 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:26:38 < dongs> 1.3GH/s 2016-03-29T10:26:40 < dongs> isnt that worthless now 2016-03-29T10:27:30 < ohsix> :\ 2016-03-29T10:27:31 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-74-51.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T10:27:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-29T10:27:54 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-74-51.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:28:19 < ohsix> https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions 2016-03-29T10:29:00 < ohsix> not being able to trade them makes speculation fun 2016-03-29T10:29:05 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:29:44 < dongs> ah lx150 shit 2016-03-29T10:29:51 < dongs> i remembmer you could get those for dirtcheap 2016-03-29T10:29:55 < dongs> once htey becamae worthless for mining 2016-03-29T10:30:02 < dongs> people were basicalyl giving away sticks wiht them on ebay 2016-03-29T10:38:09 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:38:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8280:5e2:e557:2e24:40a8:74fb] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-29T10:38:50 < dongs> ok which of you fuckers signed me up for altium seminar in japan 2016-03-29T10:39:20 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-29T10:39:30 < jpa-> it was me; but only by mistake, meant to sign you up for the kicad seminar 2016-03-29T10:39:48 < dongs> kikecad has no seminars 2016-03-29T10:40:35 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T10:42:09 < ohsix> i found a youtube channel with tutorials tho 2016-03-29T10:42:26 < ohsix> wasn't looking for one, just happened to have it in old videos 2016-03-29T10:42:36 -!- 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It was not intended as a professional layout system, but as a tool which supports people who do some home-developing of hardware. 2016-03-29T10:55:16 < ohsix> The second release 1.2 included menus for the first time. This made Pcb easier to use and thus a more important tool. 2016-03-29T10:55:21 < ohsix> ooh menus 2016-03-29T10:55:40 < dongs> haha 2016-03-29T10:55:53 < dongs> ohsix: is that kikecad? sounds like geda 2016-03-29T10:58:48 < dongs> https://youtu.be/4qqRUJ5M_U8?t=44 this is the trashed space telesope payload launch 2016-03-29T10:59:08 < dongs> that fujitv copyrighted for some fucking reason 2016-03-29T11:01:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/DJf07z0.png 2015 prius is all about china 240x320 LCDs 2016-03-29T11:02:03 < dongs> or 2016 maybe i donno 2016-03-29T11:02:14 < dongs> old ones used what almost looked liek VFD 2016-03-29T11:02:15 < jpa-> kicad uses something called "pcbnew" 2016-03-29T11:02:19 < dongs> for the speed guage 2016-03-29T11:02:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-29T11:02:34 < dongs> jpa-: geda, too 2016-03-29T11:03:27 < ohsix> dongs: yea that was geda 2016-03-29T11:03:41 < ohsix> i've read it before, was just funno 2016-03-29T11:03:52 < ohsix> atari st scene was pretty cool 2016-03-29T11:06:29 < dongs> http://v-sys.jp/http://v-sys.jp/ 2016-03-29T11:06:32 < dongs> er http://v-sys.jp/ 2016-03-29T11:09:15 < ohsix> ReadError: heh you can listen to all of 99% invisible in a day or two 2016-03-29T11:09:36 < ohsix> kind of interesting as a format, being really short 2016-03-29T11:11:00 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d108-172-129-70.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T11:15:12 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d108-172-129-70.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-29T11:19:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T11:21:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T11:27:15 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-29T11:30:29 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T11:36:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-29T11:43:47 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-29T11:48:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.127] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T11:51:41 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-29T11:54:47 < lorenzo> how the pump today crt 2016-03-29T11:54:55 < lorenzo> working fine? 2016-03-29T11:55:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-29T11:56:37 < lorenzo> crt: bit clogged 2016-03-29T11:56:58 < dongs> stming 2016-03-29T11:57:03 < lorenzo> ^ 2016-03-29T11:57:12 < lorenzo> with more force than ever 2016-03-29T11:57:30 < ohsix> trump recoiled from an eagle like he did to that stage rushing 2016-03-29T11:57:41 < ohsix> oh jeeze 2015 was so long ago 2016-03-29T11:57:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T11:57:51 < dongs> i heard trump wrote stdperiphlib. 2016-03-29T11:58:15 < dongs> .. all by himself. 2016-03-29T11:58:51 < ohsix> what's this v-sys thing 2016-03-29T11:59:08 < ohsix> that human controller rig thing is interesting but do people really need it for 3d modelling 2016-03-29T11:59:26 < ohsix> using a figure even directly is more of an art interpretation thing 2016-03-29T11:59:50 < ohsix> fark was a website 2016-03-29T12:02:29 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T12:10:13 -!- zz_ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-29T12:12:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T12:16:47 -!- zz_ka6sox [ka6sox@cryptkcoding.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T12:17:11 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-29T12:17:11 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@cryptkcoding.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-29T12:17:11 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T12:18:12 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T12:19:16 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T12:21:24 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T12:23:12 < ohsix> uhhh 2016-03-29T12:24:28 < ohsix> trailer park boys s10 yesterday 2016-03-29T12:24:59 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-29T12:25:06 < ohsix> wasn't exactly waiting, pleasant surprise 2016-03-29T12:25:49 < dongs> Hello! It looks like you're trying to blog. Would you like to: [ Post to del.icio.us ] [ Post to stumble.upon ] [ Submit to redd.it ] [ Kill yourself ] 2016-03-29T12:28:54 < ohsix> it's kind of a big deal 2016-03-29T12:29:20 < PeterM> unliek you? 2016-03-29T12:29:36 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-29T12:29:56 < ohsix> did you want to know about what's going on with me? i just ate some pizza and got out of the shower a little bit ago 2016-03-29T12:30:13 < dongs> this looks like twitter-worthy material 2016-03-29T12:30:21 < dongs> so you can bounce in your own echo-chamber 2016-03-29T12:30:23 < ohsix> don't have any pictures 2016-03-29T12:36:06 < ohsix> SUPER HOT chats 2016-03-29T12:37:51 < ohsix> frig pumps 2016-03-29T12:51:04 < ohsix> anything new, watching trailer park boys 2016-03-29T12:51:11 < ohsix> s10 was posted yesterday 2016-03-29T12:51:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-29T12:52:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T13:06:07 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-29T13:06:26 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T13:23:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T13:39:47 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T13:47:11 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: leaving...] 2016-03-29T14:01:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.191] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T14:28:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-29T14:44:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T14:57:02 < ohsix> stm32 xkcd is going to be in high school science textbooks stm32 2016-03-29T14:57:22 < zyp> stm32 xkcd? 2016-03-29T14:57:45 < ohsix> stm32? 2016-03-29T14:58:25 < jpa-> stm32 this is how we talk here stm32 2016-03-29T14:58:43 < dongs> zyp, is ST95 on the way? 2016-03-29T14:58:45 < ohsix> stm32 stm32 2016-03-29T14:58:59 < zyp> dongs, not yet, should I order now? 2016-03-29T14:59:11 < dongs> i guess, the boards were submitted yesterday i think 2016-03-29T14:59:36 < dongs> i think thats all I need the rest of the shit I can pickup locally 2016-03-29T14:59:52 < zyp> anything else you need? I still owe you for the work both for last and this shit, so I could pay you in mouser parts :p 2016-03-29T15:00:35 < dongs> nah, not right now, i just had some mouser trash delivered last week that I couldnt get locally 2016-03-29T15:00:50 < zyp> haha, ok 2016-03-29T15:00:57 < dongs> and i gotta queue shit from chiangirl anyway so 2016-03-29T15:01:20 < ohsix> what's an stm95 2016-03-29T15:01:25 < ohsix> erg, st95 2016-03-29T15:02:02 < zyp> st95hf, nfc chip 2016-03-29T15:02:36 < zyp> dongs, not gonna bother with cr* this time 2016-03-29T15:03:17 < Sync> hmm, oh lol there are tssop20 stm32 2016-03-29T15:03:25 < Sync> I did not notice that before 2016-03-29T15:05:44 < zyp> dongs, haha, 12 chips are too cheap to qualify for free shipping 2016-03-29T15:06:13 < zyp> dongs, maybe I can just throw in some shit I need and you'll just forward it along with the assembled boards? 2016-03-29T15:09:13 < dongs> zyp: sounds good 2016-03-29T15:14:00 < zyp> ok, I'll throw in one of these as well: http://no.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Intel/EDI2BBALK/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugEksTGx4uNOiBFH9nNJpNchuDQ2ODbj5c%3d 2016-03-29T15:14:28 < dongs> cutting edge tecnololgy 2016-03-29T15:14:28 < ohsix> hur 2016-03-29T15:14:34 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-29T15:15:00 < dongs> oh, that has quark in it 2016-03-29T15:15:01 < zyp> do you prefer fedex or dhl? 2016-03-29T15:15:06 < dongs> fedex 2016-03-29T15:16:02 < dongs> .. there's a FTDI 2016-03-29T15:16:04 < dongs> on that board 2016-03-29T15:20:47 < zyp> ok, ordered 2016-03-29T15:21:14 < dongs> I'll preload it with CIH virus for you 2016-03-29T15:37:58 < Sync> dongs: does chinagirl have adm3053 clones? 2016-03-29T15:38:22 < dongs> ADM3053BRWZ ? 2016-03-29T15:38:46 < dongs> isnt that the usb isolator something thing 2016-03-29T15:38:51 < dongs> oh, something isolator. 2016-03-29T15:38:53 < dongs> yeah probably ha s. 2016-03-29T15:40:21 < Sync> can isolator 2016-03-29T15:41:47 < Sync> I'd need like 50 but they are stupid expensive from the regular distributors 2016-03-29T15:41:52 < dongs> right 2016-03-29T15:41:56 < dongs> queued for tomrorow morning 2016-03-29T15:43:09 < Sync> great, thanks :) 2016-03-29T15:44:37 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T16:09:31 < dongs> time to hit freelacner 2016-03-29T16:12:03 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T16:12:15 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T16:13:10 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/GPS-Multirotor-Flight-Controller/ 2016-03-29T16:13:19 < dongs> i'll bid 100/hr to tell him to buy pixhawk 2016-03-29T16:24:08 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T16:33:52 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/CuBF0ErWIhQ?t=510 2016-03-29T16:34:59 < Lux> dongs: heh 25$ an hour, but i guess for just setting up pixhawk someone could do it 2016-03-29T16:36:29 < Lux> i bet doing the development from the ground up would be >>100k 2016-03-29T16:36:43 < dongs> lux, i mean, i could just clone some shitty multiwii board 2016-03-29T16:36:46 < dongs> with GPS 2016-03-29T16:36:50 < dongs> he didnt say it had to work right? 2016-03-29T16:37:00 < Lux> right :) 2016-03-29T16:40:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Supplier-Sourcing/Used-Printed-Circuit-Board-Sourcing/ 2016-03-29T16:40:59 < dongs> lux, hows your clonefc doing 2016-03-29T16:41:53 < Lux> it's doing ok 2016-03-29T16:43:01 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T16:44:18 < Lux> but i can't really say much more, probably there'll be some public stuff end of summer or so 2016-03-29T16:47:08 < dongs> mkay 2016-03-29T16:58:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T17:01:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T17:02:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T17:09:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T17:17:19 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.57.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-29T17:23:54 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T17:48:29 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T17:53:57 < dongs> o nice 2016-03-29T17:54:15 < dongs> viewsource on feelancer lets you see userid of employer 2016-03-29T17:54:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/isaac58.html the quad video multiplexer guy https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Quad-video-display-multiplexer/ 2016-03-29T18:02:10 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T18:02:50 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-73-150.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T18:04:16 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-74-51.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-29T18:04:59 < ReadError> woh 2016-03-29T18:05:06 < dongs> Israel delays flights to Larnaca following hijacking of Egyptian passenger plane; Israeli air force on high alert with fighter jets in the air in case of a possible infiltration; hijackers tell police to back off so they can release women and children 2016-03-29T18:05:07 < ReadError> chrome dev tools has a pretty print thing for JS files 2016-03-29T18:06:36 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-29T18:10:23 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T18:10:24 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-29T18:10:30 < dongs> javascript:(function()%7Bwindow.open(project.buyer.url%2C'_blank')%7D)() add bookmarklet for this 2016-03-29T18:10:37 < dongs> to troll feelancer usernames with one-click 2016-03-29T18:10:45 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T18:11:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-29T18:18:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T18:27:27 < englishman> dongs, maybe you shouldnt suggest dixhawk, since chris anderson announced yesterday they are shutting their cloning facilites down 2016-03-29T18:29:28 < dongs> oh? 2016-03-29T18:29:30 < dongs> sauce plz 2016-03-29T18:29:37 < dongs> 3d dongbotics shutting donw? 2016-03-29T18:29:50 < dongs> http://www.xconomy.com/san-diego/2016/03/24/layoffs-reflect-new-turbulence-at-high-flying-3d-robotics%C2%AD/ 2016-03-29T18:29:53 < dongs> lol 2016-03-29T18:30:52 < englishman> http://pastebin.com/E7qQ8CLY 2016-03-29T18:31:00 < englishman> http://www.droneflyers.com/2016/03/3d-robotics-failure-to-launch-and-unicorn-dreams/ 2016-03-29T18:31:45 < englishman> looks like hiring colin guinn was great success, just like when he worked at dji 2016-03-29T18:32:10 < dongs> the shamwow guy 2016-03-29T18:32:28 < englishman> no, different dudebro 2016-03-29T18:32:32 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8 2016-03-29T18:32:41 < dongs> looks like guinn to me 2016-03-29T18:32:54 < englishman> difference is one is in prison for sex crimes 2016-03-29T18:32:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T18:33:00 < englishman> the other is VP marketing for a failing drone company 2016-03-29T18:33:05 < dongs> HEH 2016-03-29T18:34:17 < dongs> 4. Done away with most of their financial and other support for the open source software they based their business plan on. Let go of most of the team members associated with the Ardupilot project (this project has been handed back to the world-at-large). 2016-03-29T18:34:21 < dongs> yay! 2016-03-29T18:34:24 < dongs> tardupilot finally dead 2016-03-29T18:34:44 < englishman> isnt that like red hat dropping lunix support 2016-03-29T18:38:57 < dongs> nice 2016-03-29T18:39:02 < dongs> oh well bedtime gotta dickplace all day tomroow 2016-03-29T18:39:03 < dongs> bbl 2016-03-29T18:40:32 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-29T18:46:17 < mitrax> does anyone know a cheap 24V DC-DC isolated converter (100 to 200mA output)? 2016-03-29T18:47:19 < zyp> hmm, I saw some thing, but I don't know if it does 24V 2016-03-29T18:47:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T18:48:22 < mitrax> zyp: 24V as in or out? i could do with 15 or 12V output as well 2016-03-29T18:50:18 < Thorn> http://www.meanwell.com/mw_search/nes-15/NES-15-SPEC.PDF 2016-03-29T18:50:38 < zyp> hmm, there's a bunch of small ones on digikey, but they won't do 100mA 2016-03-29T18:51:31 < zyp> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xp-power/ISE2424A-TR/1470-2955-1-ND/5320877 <- like this thing 2016-03-29T18:52:24 < zyp> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xp-power/JCB0324S24/1470-1821-5-ND/4488201 <- this perhaps, but it's not cheap 2016-03-29T18:52:56 < mitrax> yeah saw that one, too bad it's only 42mA, yeah anything above 100mA is super expensive :( 2016-03-29T18:58:24 < Thorn> these are 0.23A @24V or 0.33A #15V http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=NFM-05 2016-03-29T19:00:19 < Thorn> http://www.meanwell.com/mw_search/NFM-05/NFM-05-spec.pdf stupid website 2016-03-29T19:01:34 < mitrax> Thorn: thanks but i need DC DC :) 2016-03-29T19:02:07 < zyp> «Sorry, this link is not authorized by Mean Well.» 2016-03-29T19:04:38 < zyp> I do need some AC/DC thing, but I need it to be 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Having weird issue with ADC, maybe you'll know what's up. Doing ADC->DMA, with timer. First 15 ms of the capture are some 7 LSB lower than the rest. I tried disabled my LEDs, debug output, everything I could think of, and no dice. So, ideas? 2016-03-29T20:45:35 < MightyPork> it's f303 2016-03-29T20:49:40 < MightyPork> Here's a plot of the output - http://data.ondrovo.com/i/Screenshot_2016-03-29_19-48-55.png 2016-03-29T20:50:09 < MightyPork> (this si sampled at 5 kHz) 2016-03-29T20:55:25 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T20:55:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-29T20:55:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.85] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T21:04:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-29T21:07:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-29T21:13:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T21:15:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-29T21:19:43 -!- You're now known as jpa- 2016-03-29T21:19:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T21:29:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T21:42:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T21:43:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-29T21:48:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-29T22:06:30 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-29T22:06:54 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T22:23:35 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKcGMyQjVGaVVyNFU/view?usp=sharing you wish that hippo wouldn't be hippo if you take 30kg of it's tail 2016-03-29T22:23:44 < kakimir> but it's still hippo 2016-03-29T22:24:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-59.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T22:24:41 < Steffann> You are weird kakimir. 2016-03-29T22:25:47 < kakimir> installed electric wiring for back worklight and tried it without seat and all the shiet 2016-03-29T22:26:30 < kakimir> it's hopeless.. track tunnel is steel.. foot rests are steel and so on 2016-03-29T22:27:54 < kakimir> maybe it gives ridigity for work purposes and towing shiet 2016-03-29T22:28:44 < kakimir> I noticed it moves backwards better without the cage 2016-03-29T22:29:25 < kakimir> it doesn't have surface to push the snow behind it 2016-03-29T22:32:35 < kakimir> implication would be to have plactic ramp behind the sled 2016-03-29T22:32:59 < kakimir> I need s 2016-03-29T22:33:03 < kakimir> to stop 2016-03-29T22:33:21 < kakimir> I can't afford playing with toys now 2016-03-29T22:33:50 < kakimir> when I'm rich pitz it's different then 2016-03-29T22:34:23 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-29T22:42:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T22:44:33 < kakimir> can I load a program in windows 10 at startup 2016-03-29T22:44:36 < kakimir> without starting it 2016-03-29T22:44:42 < kakimir> like any program 2016-03-29T22:44:59 < kakimir> so it loads all it's like dll and shiet 2016-03-29T22:45:07 < kakimir> and when you open it it's like BOOM 2016-03-29T22:46:51 < MightyPork> just buy ssd 2016-03-29T22:47:12 < kakimir> I have 2016-03-29T22:47:25 < kakimir> it pretty damn quick also 2016-03-29T22:47:47 < kakimir> it's 2016 and there is no software preprocessing 2016-03-29T22:49:26 < kakimir> like stuff where it would run the software in sort of sandbox and preprocess shiet to some image 2016-03-29T22:49:34 < kakimir> initial loading stuff 2016-03-29T22:50:19 < kakimir> 90% of programs always start in same way every time 2016-03-29T22:51:42 < zyp> idk about windows, but on OS X the idea now is that all apps resume from how you left them 2016-03-29T22:53:19 < kakimir> sounds dirty 2016-03-29T22:58:14 < Steffann> its perfect. 2016-03-29T22:58:29 < kakimir> if programs are made solid 2016-03-29T22:58:42 < kakimir> not with X number of mem leaks 2016-03-29T22:58:50 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T22:58:55 < kakimir> like one popular browser 2016-03-29T22:59:32 < Steffann> firemir? 2016-03-29T22:59:54 < kakimir> ye 2016-03-29T23:00:26 < Steffann> its not that chrome uses less 2016-03-29T23:00:35 < kakimir> no 2016-03-29T23:00:39 < Steffann> or are you still using some firefox version very ancient? 2016-03-29T23:00:47 < kakimir> no 2016-03-29T23:00:54 < kakimir> they fixed it I know 2016-03-29T23:01:02 < kakimir> like 2years ago 2016-03-29T23:03:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-29T23:03:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T23:14:48 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-29T23:18:10 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T23:31:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-29T23:36:34 < karlp> MightyPork: I wasn't expecting a step, I had a theory on too short sampling time for your signal, that stabilizes, but that should curve up or down, not step like that. 2016-03-29T23:36:43 < karlp> MightyPork: what's with the units on the x axis though? 2016-03-29T23:37:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-59.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-29T23:39:25 < MightyPork> what do you mean with the units? 2016-03-29T23:39:33 < MightyPork> karlp: ^ 2016-03-29T23:40:06 < MightyPork> it appears as if some load was released after the 14 ms, but there is really nothing other than the MPU 2016-03-29T23:41:04 < karlp> postivie and negative mA are not what I'd expect for "difference of 7 lsb" 2016-03-29T23:41:23 < MightyPork> oh no it's converted 2016-03-29T23:41:32 < MightyPork> I'm building an AC current analyser 2016-03-29T23:41:38 < MightyPork> this is the web UI 2016-03-29T23:41:50 < MightyPork> you can see the LSB step in the chart 2016-03-29T23:46:42 < MightyPork> there's no visible change in the 3.3V line, but my scope can't really zoom vertically, so I can't see details 2016-03-29T23:49:19 < MightyPork> karlp any other ideas beside the sampling time ? (I'll try changing that tho just to test) 2016-03-29T23:51:47 < MightyPork> holy cow 2016-03-29T23:51:51 < MightyPork> that actually solved it 2016-03-29T23:51:54 < MightyPork> you're the best, karlp 2016-03-29T23:53:03 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-29T23:53:22 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T23:55:24 < MightyPork> * Here's a screenshot of the whole app, if you wanna have a look. It's running in ESP8266, and the STM32 is used as a sampling module. Will also have FFT and other stuff later. 2016-03-29T23:55:24 < MightyPork> http://data.ondrovo.com/i/Screenshot_2016-03-29_22-53-52.png 2016-03-29T23:56:40 < MightyPork> ...and they talk to each other using SBMP, the binary UART protocol I talked about here some 2 weeks ago - now fully implemented and works great! 2016-03-29T23:56:43 < MightyPork> https://github.com/MightyPork/sbmp 2016-03-29T23:57:02 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-29T23:57:07 < karlp> I'm just curious how 7lsb went frmo negative to positive on your adc, is all :) 2016-03-29T23:57:21 < karlp> sampling time on the stm32 adcs is pretty important to get right. 2016-03-29T23:57:38 < MightyPork> I have 0 at Vdda / 2 2016-03-29T23:57:38 < karlp> and you cna't just do "use the longest" to get the best results either, that can make it worse for some signals. 2016-03-29T23:57:59 < MightyPork> it's a current transformer + an opamp, so I get negative voltages WRT this "zero" 2016-03-29T23:58:16 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-03-29T23:58:26 < MightyPork> yea I have settled at 19.5 now, which works OK 2016-03-29T23:58:28 < MightyPork> was 4.5 before 2016-03-29T23:58:51 < MightyPork> had no idea what it affects, so I just picked a random one. turns out it affects everything 2016-03-29T23:58:55 < karlp> are you sure your x axis is right? what are those periodic spikes? that's not 50hz or 60 hz if those sample numbers are correct. 2016-03-29T23:59:13 < karlp> there's a footnote in the specs section of the datasheet about input impedance and minimum sampling times, 2016-03-29T23:59:21 < karlp> it's massively important :) --- Day changed Wed Mar 30 2016 2016-03-30T00:00:25 < karlp> how are the esp8266 and stm32 connected? spi? 2016-03-30T00:00:51 < MightyPork> the X axis is a sample number, I think it's correct - before it was just a noise, so there wasnt anything much really to see 2016-03-30T00:00:58 < karlp> if you were going to use the esp2866, why not just get one of the single cheap power metering units? microchip and AD both make some, 2016-03-30T00:01:07 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T00:01:21 < MightyPork> it's my bachelor project, so I can't just "go buy something" 2016-03-30T00:01:29 < MightyPork> building the pcb and all 2016-03-30T00:02:01 < karlp> so that periodic signal is your power supply ripple going into your reference divider? 2016-03-30T00:02:14 < karlp> your bachelor project can still teach you part selection and integration, 2016-03-30T00:02:32 < MightyPork> ripple you mean in the new screenshot? 2016-03-30T00:02:47 < karlp> I've onyl seen one screenshpt: http://data.ondrovo.com/i/Screenshot_2016-03-29_22-53-52.png 2016-03-30T00:03:18 < MightyPork> ah right. I'm sampling a phone charger there 2016-03-30T00:03:18 < karlp> oh, and the one you first shared to show the problem 2016-03-30T00:03:30 < karlp> right, so on that one, are you sure your sampling rate is correct? 2016-03-30T00:03:43 < karlp> because 100 samples at 4khz isn't 50hz or 60hz 2016-03-30T00:03:57 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-30T00:05:08 < MightyPork> it's possible that I calculate the prescallers wrong for some values, I'll have to check that 2016-03-30T00:05:27 < MightyPork> at 5000 Hz a period is exactly 100 samples 2016-03-30T00:06:18 < karlp> right, ok, my bad, 2016-03-30T00:06:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-30T00:06:43 < TheSeven> looks like 50Hz, 80 samples at 4kHz per period 2016-03-30T00:07:12 < karlp> I was mixing it up with some of my stuff where I count for 100ms, to get either 5 or 6 waveforms, at etiher 50 or 60 hz 2016-03-30T00:07:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.28.89] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-30T00:08:37 < MightyPork> here's another one at 80 samples per period, I think it's correct http://data.ondrovo.com/i/Screenshot_2016-03-29_23-07-48.png 2016-03-30T00:09:17 < MightyPork> ye 50 Hz, I'm in europe 2016-03-30T00:10:00 < TheSeven> so this is the current of some charger? how many mA should one LSB be in theory? 2016-03-30T00:10:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T00:11:25 < TheSeven> and how are you generating the signal that's being sampled? 2016-03-30T00:11:33 < MightyPork> it's 0.097V per Amp, then I amplify it 10x, and sample by the stm 2016-03-30T00:11:41 < MightyPork> so the LSB is something around 0.2 mA 2016-03-30T00:11:49 < TheSeven> how are you generating Vdda/2? 2016-03-30T00:11:51 < MightyPork> it's a current transformer 2016-03-30T00:11:57 < MightyPork> two resistors and a follower 2016-03-30T00:12:10 < MightyPork> I then align it to a mean value of the signal, to remove offsets 2016-03-30T00:12:24 < TheSeven> how do you align that? 2016-03-30T00:12:30 < MightyPork> just math.. 2016-03-30T00:12:40 < TheSeven> sliding window? or just calibrated once? 2016-03-30T00:12:52 < TheSeven> and how big is the window that you use to determine the mean? 2016-03-30T00:13:14 < MightyPork> no I just take avg of the data I captured, and subtract it from the ADC output 2016-03-30T00:13:20 < Sync> MightyPork: are you sampling current and voltage at the same time with the dual adc? 2016-03-30T00:13:24 < TheSeven> ok, so across the whole measurement 2016-03-30T00:13:25 < MightyPork> it works OK for longer windows 2016-03-30T00:13:46 < MightyPork> if there's partial period, it'll be off, but I'll be doing 4096 samples or so for the FFT anyway 2016-03-30T00:13:56 < MightyPork> for around a second. so should be ok 2016-03-30T00:14:14 < MightyPork> Sync: no I get voltage using a shunt at the current transformer 2016-03-30T00:14:19 < TheSeven> yeah I was just wondering if it might be a sliding window average wiggling around or something 2016-03-30T00:15:06 < MightyPork> do you think the offset can change across the segment? 2016-03-30T00:15:14 < MightyPork> then that'd be needed... 2016-03-30T00:15:19 < Sync> nah MightyPork ac line voltage 2016-03-30T00:16:03 < karlp> the resistor on the CT is normally called a "burden" resistor in this usage, not a shunt. 2016-03-30T00:16:21 < MightyPork> ah ok, bad terminology then 2016-03-30T00:16:31 < MightyPork> it's completely isolated from the AC line 2016-03-30T00:16:35 < MightyPork> dont want to kill myself 2016-03-30T00:16:35 < karlp> taking the average and substracting works ok if your window is a perfect multiple of the cycles 2016-03-30T00:16:48 < karlp> but if you don't have a perfect multiple of the cycles, you'll either be above or below. 2016-03-30T00:16:58 < MightyPork> yea I realize that 2016-03-30T00:17:15 < MightyPork> alternative would be to use a mux and disconnect the input, but that's an extra part 2016-03-30T00:17:24 < karlp> 50hz isn't always 50hz, that's all... 2016-03-30T00:18:12 < MightyPork> some idea how to do it better? 2016-03-30T00:18:13 < karlp> (I just use a divider to offset the burden resistor and an RC filter, no opamp) 2016-03-30T00:18:34 < Sync> no MightyPork, what I mean is, do you sample current and voltage at the same time 2016-03-30T00:18:46 < MightyPork> maybe you have a better coil, this one gives super low voltages for the kind of thing I'm measuring 2016-03-30T00:19:06 < MightyPork> Sync: no I don't sample voltage at all 2016-03-30T00:19:24 < Sync> okay 2016-03-30T00:19:42 < MightyPork> that'd be for what, power calculation? 2016-03-30T00:19:48 < Sync> yes 2016-03-30T00:20:01 < MightyPork> I was hoping I can get away with 230 * Irms = P 2016-03-30T00:20:05 < Sync> no 2016-03-30T00:20:08 < Sync> absolutely not 2016-03-30T00:20:39 < karlp> that's absolutely fake 2016-03-30T00:20:41 < MightyPork> huh. okay then I won't show power there 2016-03-30T00:20:54 < karlp> you can only do that for people who want to see W instad of A. 2016-03-30T00:20:56 < MightyPork> any way to get approximate power from just the current? 2016-03-30T00:21:06 < karlp> sure, let the user enter power factor 2016-03-30T00:21:23 < MightyPork> oh, that's the cos fi right 2016-03-30T00:21:49 < karlp> for people that just want to see Watts instead of amps, sure, just *230 is ok... 2016-03-30T00:22:01 < Sync> but it is incredibly wrong to do that 2016-03-30T00:22:10 < karlp> then you do * 11c/kwh, and before you know it you're doign billing on made up numbers ;) 2016-03-30T00:22:21 < karlp> Sync: depends what you're doing ;) 2016-03-30T00:22:30 < Sync> if you are scamming, people yes 2016-03-30T00:22:37 < MightyPork> I wanted to show it just to give some idea of what kind of load is there 2016-03-30T00:22:38 < karlp> if you want to get indications of load/overload, makes no fucking difference. 2016-03-30T00:22:49 < Sync> yes 2016-03-30T00:22:53 < karlp> if you're trying to bill on wh usage, then sure, scam. 2016-03-30T00:23:10 < karlp> but not any more than retail never beign changed for reactive power or anything 2016-03-30T00:23:20 < karlp> so, "bad" and "wrong" but "doesn't matter for most peopel" 2016-03-30T00:23:44 < Sync> well, that's to be seen what happens with the move to smart meters 2016-03-30T00:23:51 < MightyPork> if I call it P_approx thats cool then right 2016-03-30T00:24:09 < karlp> MightyPork: up to you and your users... 2016-03-30T00:24:16 < Sync> yup 2016-03-30T00:24:27 < MightyPork> I mean if it's TOTALLY wrong then I jhust wont show it 2016-03-30T00:24:31 < Sync> if I were your prof I'd poke you in the eye 2016-03-30T00:25:10 < karlp> qyx: was it you who had the microchip power meter chips plsu stm32f103 ethernet power analyser thing? 2016-03-30T00:25:15 < karlp> I can't find it in my links, 2016-03-30T00:25:16 < MightyPork> hmm. won't make problems to myself and just remove it then 2016-03-30T00:25:48 < Sync> I mean, idk what your task is but huh 2016-03-30T00:26:03 < MightyPork> it's supposed to detect change in the spectrum 2016-03-30T00:26:11 < MightyPork> for like, predicting a motor fault or whatev 2016-03-30T00:26:23 < MightyPork> this is all just extras 2016-03-30T00:26:49 < Sync> then you probably want to measure voltage as well to calculate power factor 2016-03-30T00:26:59 < Sync> so you can predict failing capacitors 2016-03-30T00:27:11 < Sync> if you run cheap cap motors 2016-03-30T00:27:40 < karlp> should be able to infer that just from current consumption going up. 2016-03-30T00:27:50 < MightyPork> you mean I'd do the fft in complex, I vs V ? 2016-03-30T00:27:50 < karlp> adding voltage measurement is teh suck, 2016-03-30T00:28:19 < karlp> why do you want to FFT? only need if you're taking one approach to determinging harmonic content 2016-03-30T00:28:42 < kakimir> is there way to make winlolz open some text files with default text editor? 2016-03-30T00:28:49 < kakimir> by it's context 2016-03-30T00:28:51 < MightyPork> the idea is that I measure a "good" spectrum and then calculate distance from it 2016-03-30T00:29:04 < MightyPork> but it's just an idea I'm going to either prove to work, or disprove 2016-03-30T00:29:20 < karlp> I like your esp webapp thing though, that's nice :) 2016-03-30T00:29:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T00:29:39 < karlp> doign deviation from a "good" spectyrum sounds interesting, but hard :) 2016-03-30T00:29:56 < karlp> I think you're going to get impacted too much by effects on the line from other consumers re harmonic content. 2016-03-30T00:29:58 < Sync> karlp: not really, just put the stm on the high side and isolate the spi 2016-03-30T00:30:04 < MightyPork> it's pretty amazing what can be done with the esp. initially I tried to use the AT commands but now there's my own firmware 2016-03-30T00:30:04 < kisielk> does anyone know what the main difference between USB FS libraries for the F0x2 and the F10 / L1 / F3 is? 2016-03-30T00:30:07 < Sync> easy :D 2016-03-30T00:30:16 < karlp> Sync: yes, but that still requires actually doing all the high side isolation properly. 2016-03-30T00:30:29 < karlp> it's not _nearly_ as straightforward as just measuring current :) 2016-03-30T00:30:34 < karlp> particularly not for certs ;) 2016-03-30T00:30:46 < zyp> kisielk, dunno about the libraries, but I know what's different about the hardware, if you need to know that 2016-03-30T00:31:04 < kisielk> zyp: yeah, I wrote the same device for both and I'm wondering if I can somehow clean up and merge the code 2016-03-30T00:31:11 < zyp> yes 2016-03-30T00:31:17 < MightyPork> you mean my measuremenets will get messed up by other loads in the network, through my PSU? 2016-03-30T00:31:17 < kisielk> there's a lot of overlap seemingly, and it's a pain to maintain two versions 2016-03-30T00:31:20 < Sync> yeah, that is why I'm saying that he should measure voltage as well, as you cannot trust the line to be sinusoidal 2016-03-30T00:31:37 < kakimir> bros were is your projects? 2016-03-30T00:31:42 < zyp> kisielk, F0 and L0 is using a newer version of the same peripheral, with a few more registers that's pretty much all optional extra features you don't have to care about 2016-03-30T00:31:53 < zyp> the interesting one of those would be internal D+ pullup enable 2016-03-30T00:32:05 < Sync> karlp: never had an issue with that 2016-03-30T00:32:17 < kisielk> yeah, I'm using that on the F0 device, but it looks like there's just a define to disable that 2016-03-30T00:32:23 < zyp> kisielk, apart from that the only breaking difference is how the buffer memory is mapped 2016-03-30T00:32:25 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T00:32:44 < kisielk> what's different about the buffer memory? 2016-03-30T00:33:00 < zyp> in v1, the buffer memory is 16 bit wide mapped on a 32 bit bus, so you can only access all the halfwords 2016-03-30T00:33:08 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-17-163.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T00:33:11 < kakimir> *project updates 2016-03-30T00:33:19 < zyp> if you've already written a lib for v1 I guess you're familiar with that already 2016-03-30T00:34:19 < zyp> in v2, the buffer memory is still 16 bit wide, but mapped on a 16 bit adapter, so now it's contiguous 16 bit words, not with a dummy word between every word 2016-03-30T00:34:45 < kisielk> right.. I used the library, I think UserToPMABufferCopy takes care of that 2016-03-30T00:34:50 < zyp> you can still only do 16 bit accesses, otherwise you'll get pretty weird results 2016-03-30T00:34:55 < karlp> Sync: never had line distortion from other devices? or what? 2016-03-30T00:35:06 < karlp> I think he knows the line isn't sinusoidal, he can see that pretty clearly :) 2016-03-30T00:35:10 < Sync> no, problems with certification because I had shit on highside 2016-03-30T00:35:17 < karlp> well, you need more. 2016-03-30T00:35:35 < karlp> you can do low voltage only certs for a device that just has a CT. 2016-03-30T00:35:46 < MightyPork> if you mean the voltage measurement, I'm absolutely not going to do that. but good thing to write into the thesis 2016-03-30T00:35:56 < kisielk> I kind of wish they had made just one library that would deal with both versions of the device 2016-03-30T00:36:05 < karlp> kisielk: you mean like.... libopencm3? ;) 2016-03-30T00:36:08 < MightyPork> also, this is no way aspiring to get certified.. likely it ends with one prototype 2016-03-30T00:36:13 < zyp> kisielk, yeah, it's not hard 2016-03-30T00:36:13 < Sync> MightyPork: why not, it'd be the proper way to do it 2016-03-30T00:36:30 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T00:36:31 < karlp> certified bachelors project? hah, that would be nice. 2016-03-30T00:37:26 < zyp> certification sounds fun 2016-03-30T00:38:00 < zyp> if I'm ever going to sell my EV charger shit, I'm going to get to deal with that 2016-03-30T00:38:05 < karlp> they're cunts with far more power than they deserve. 2016-03-30T00:38:18 < karlp> having a bad day? hey, fuck you, now you need to put stickers on all your devices. 2016-03-30T00:38:18 < MightyPork> voltage measurement would be great, but dont think I'd make the PCB to be worth anything. I'd probably blow it all up 2016-03-30T00:38:26 < kisielk> karlp: I've looked at libopencm3 before, but it seemed like it didn't fully support all the peripherals I wanted to use 2016-03-30T00:38:26 < Sync> karlp: my bachelors stuff is probably going to be certified 2016-03-30T00:38:39 < kisielk> but I could be wrong 2016-03-30T00:38:42 < MightyPork> would need a dc-dc and some optron shite or idk what it takes 2016-03-30T00:38:58 < zyp> MightyPork, what are you making? 2016-03-30T00:39:03 < karlp> Sync: well done :) that's far far more than the regular bachelors, masters, and probably many phd projects ;) 2016-03-30T00:39:09 < ohsix> clear, my window something something not buns 2016-03-30T00:39:17 < karlp> kisielk: well, keep maintaining your own dual stacks of usb device code then :) 2016-03-30T00:39:39 < Sync> karlp: yes, but I'd also let a lot of them not pass 2016-03-30T00:39:42 < kisielk> karlp: is it possible to use just one part of the lib and use the standard peripheral library otherwie? 2016-03-30T00:39:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T00:39:51 < MightyPork> zyp "degradation detector", analyzing ac current, with web interface 2016-03-30T00:39:53 < Sync> because they shouldn't be getting them if they can't do it 2016-03-30T00:40:11 < zyp> I've been looking at power measurement stuff recently, the STPM* chips looks nice 2016-03-30T00:40:18 < zyp> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/sense_power/FM1963/SC397 2016-03-30T00:40:22 < karlp> zyp: microship has some good ones too. 2016-03-30T00:40:30 < karlp> stpm are mostly all single phase though :( 2016-03-30T00:40:37 < Sync> so does analog, but the analog stuff are a pain to use 2016-03-30T00:40:39 < zyp> not STPMC1 2016-03-30T00:41:02 < karlp> maxim has some too 2016-03-30T00:41:12 < karlp> we use one of the analog ones, it's.... not ideal, 2016-03-30T00:41:15 < karlp> but works ok. 2016-03-30T00:41:31 < karlp> once you get to revision F of the datasheet that corrects all the willfully bad advice from revision E 2016-03-30T00:41:35 < zyp> I've only read the STPM docs, any pros/cons of the others wrt those? 2016-03-30T00:41:50 < karlp> haven't looked at the ST ones in detail in a while, 2016-03-30T00:42:03 < karlp> the redesign of our existing part is currently shelved. 2016-03-30T00:42:19 < zyp> I want to have power measurement in the EV charger 2016-03-30T00:42:35 < zyp> both for usage monitoring/reporting and for sanity checking 2016-03-30T00:44:13 < zyp> I'm planning features like sharing a single limited supply between multiple outlets, and to make sure everything works well I need to monitor that the devices are respecting the current limit 2016-03-30T00:44:49 < zyp> and also keep track of how much power that's actually drawn, so each outlet doesn't get allocated more than it needs 2016-03-30T00:45:19 < Sync> well, you can sample overall voltage/current and then just have a few current measurements per outlet 2016-03-30T00:45:40 < Sync> or just make a cheapshit integrated voltage and current solution and transmit that isolated 2016-03-30T00:45:54 < zyp> each outlet will have its own controller module 2016-03-30T00:45:57 < Sync> because that way you get rid of the problem to sample at the same time 2016-03-30T00:46:05 < zyp> adding a measurement chip to each is not expensive 2016-03-30T00:46:17 < Sync> yeah smallest f0 will do 2016-03-30T00:46:21 < Sync> just needs 2 adcs 2016-03-30T00:46:34 < ohsix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Robotics the picture of jordi makes him look like a villain from the star wars tng cbs tv taped universe 2016-03-30T00:46:46 < zyp> Sync, why do that and not use a dedicated chip like the STPM32? 2016-03-30T00:47:30 < Sync> yeah, that's also a possiblity 2016-03-30T00:47:52 < zyp> the controller itself will probably be f3 or small f4 or something 2016-03-30T00:53:46 < zyp> one thing that I see is common in energy measurement chips is that all the example designs are ground referencing the circuit on one of the live lines 2016-03-30T00:54:24 < Sync> yeah, why not 2016-03-30T00:55:22 < kakimir> I wonder if __adm nop nop nop __endasm; is actually by standard C 2016-03-30T00:55:28 < kakimir> *__asm 2016-03-30T00:55:35 < zyp> like, stpm32 got differential inputs, but the negative side is always tied to gnd tied to one line, with a resistor divider from the other line to positive 2016-03-30T00:55:40 < kakimir> I have not seen this before 2016-03-30T00:55:48 < TheSeven> if anything asm("nop"); 2016-03-30T00:56:01 < Sync> MightyPork: how are you going to differentiate line noise from your motor noise 2016-03-30T00:56:05 < TheSeven> I guess __asm is some macro defines in some obscure header? ;) 2016-03-30T00:56:37 < zyp> it makes sense for isolated energy measurement devices, which doesn't have any other ground reference anyway 2016-03-30T00:56:39 < Sync> zyp: I suppose they do that to keep the circuit working when N fails 2016-03-30T00:56:50 < Sync> well they are made for smart meters 2016-03-30T00:56:51 < Sync> so eh 2016-03-30T00:56:55 < Sync> they are never ground referenced 2016-03-30T00:57:17 < zyp> well, the rest of the circuitry in my device will have GND tied to PE, so it'll be PE referenced 2016-03-30T00:57:44 < Sync> just isolate the energy measurement away from the rest? 2016-03-30T00:57:52 < Sync> I mean, they talk through uart or spi 2016-03-30T00:57:59 < Sync> easy enough to do 2016-03-30T00:58:01 < zyp> yes, sure 2016-03-30T00:58:07 < MightyPork> Sync: I'm not I think, didnt really give any thought to that. think it'll be a problem? 2016-03-30T00:58:16 < Sync> yes MightyPork, it will be 2016-03-30T00:58:22 < zyp> Sync, but do I really have to, when the inputs are all differential anyway? 2016-03-30T00:58:47 < Sync> yes, as neutral is != pe 2016-03-30T00:59:00 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/g1TpNzZa see this 2016-03-30T00:59:10 < kakimir> it is in some 8051 code 2016-03-30T00:59:20 < kakimir> C 2016-03-30T00:59:46 < zyp> Sync, I know, over here it's common to not even have N 2016-03-30T01:00:11 < MightyPork> it's not standard for sure, maybe it works in armcc? 2016-03-30T01:00:20 < zyp> Sync, delta-wired three phase transformers doesn't have any neutral point, just three lines that are all on a different level from PE 2016-03-30T01:00:22 < MightyPork> I know they have some special asm syntax that doesnt work in gcc 2016-03-30T01:00:23 < TheSeven> either some weird vendor extension, or a fancy macro 2016-03-30T01:00:32 < Sync> yes, but that only works for motors and transformers zyp 2016-03-30T01:00:33 < kakimir> this is for SDCC 2016-03-30T01:00:42 < zyp> Sync, what does? 2016-03-30T01:00:46 < Sync> anything else is very yolo to run without neutral 2016-03-30T01:00:55 < zyp> uh 2016-03-30T01:01:22 < zyp> neutral in what sense? 2016-03-30T01:01:34 < Sync> neutral being connected to PE after the RCD 2016-03-30T01:01:53 < Sync> or at the substation 2016-03-30T01:01:56 < zyp> no, it doesn't work like that here 2016-03-30T01:02:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T01:02:52 < Sync> so how does 3phase work over there? 2016-03-30T01:03:33 < zyp> TN distribution systems work like you say, they are usually wye-wired at the substation with PEN tied to the centerpoint 2016-03-30T01:03:48 < Sync> MightyPork: wouldn't that be the first thought when you attempt such a project? 2016-03-30T01:04:03 < zyp> in the distribution board, PE and N are split into separate conductors, making it a TN-C-S 2016-03-30T01:04:29 < MightyPork> I'm not 100% sure what you mean by line noise, tbh 2016-03-30T01:04:49 < englishman> kakimir: why not rtfm? http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0491e/BABFDCGD.html 2016-03-30T01:04:53 < zyp> which means that PE and N is on the same level, phase conductor to N is 230V, and between phase conductors there's 400V 2016-03-30T01:05:00 < Sync> your line voltage is not a pure sine, thus your current will not be a pure sine 2016-03-30T01:05:05 < englishman> oh 8051 2016-03-30T01:05:07 < englishman> which compiler 2016-03-30T01:05:17 < englishman> probably an intrinsic like above ^ 2016-03-30T01:05:20 < englishman> why not ask in ##8051 2016-03-30T01:05:35 < zyp> from what I understand, most of europe is TN, norway is an exception there 2016-03-30T01:05:48 < zyp> most newer stuff in norway are TN as well, but older stuff are IT 2016-03-30T01:06:07 < MightyPork> it won't, no. Ofc if the line shape changes, detecting a change in spectrum is useless 2016-03-30T01:06:22 < MightyPork> hmm.. so is it all doomed? 2016-03-30T01:06:31 < zyp> IT is delta wired at the substation, which means that you get 230V between phase conductors and around 135V from each phase conductor to PE 2016-03-30T01:06:34 < zyp> there's no N 2016-03-30T01:06:57 < Sync> yes MightyPork 2016-03-30T01:07:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-30T01:07:22 < MightyPork> I wonder why the prof didn't think of this 2016-03-30T01:07:33 < Sync> oh god, norway uses IT? 2016-03-30T01:07:39 < Sync> interesting. 2016-03-30T01:07:39 < zyp> most of it, yes 2016-03-30T01:08:26 < englishman> is that bad? 2016-03-30T01:08:33 < englishman> every home i know of has their own earth 2016-03-30T01:08:36 < zyp> the difference doesn't matter much when it comes to single phase, you just pick two phase conductors 2016-03-30T01:09:18 < Sync> interesting, I didn't know anybody used IT at a large scale 2016-03-30T01:09:50 < englishman> wait, theres no distribution earth at all? 2016-03-30T01:09:51 < englishman> that sounds bad 2016-03-30T01:10:29 < zyp> the engineers at Renault that made the Zoe apparently didn't think that either, because they designed the car so that it's unable to charge if it sees a voltage between N and PE 2016-03-30T01:10:34 < MightyPork> Sync: would measuring also the voltage help me at all in this regard? 2016-03-30T01:10:50 < Sync> to some degree, as you can compare the spectra 2016-03-30T01:11:00 < Sync> but probably it won't help you 2016-03-30T01:11:09 < zyp> so Renault Norway have to sell every Zoe with a isolation transformer unless the customer lives in an area with TN 2016-03-30T01:11:22 < MightyPork> that doesnt sound encouraging 2016-03-30T01:11:24 < Sync> and I can't really think of a failure that a motor has that would change the current draw 2016-03-30T01:11:24 < zyp> englishman, there is 2016-03-30T01:11:47 < Sync> haha zyp, well it is super uncommon 2016-03-30T01:11:51 < zyp> PE is usually both hooked up to local electrodes and distributed 2016-03-30T01:12:02 < MightyPork> well, it's not strictly motors. The idea was that it could also detect failing capacitors in power supplies etc. But I'm a bit doubtful that will work any good 2016-03-30T01:12:08 < zyp> it's just not tied to any windings in the transformer in any way 2016-03-30T01:12:15 < Sync> I mean the only benefit is that a single earth failure does not kill you 2016-03-30T01:12:23 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-30T01:12:37 < Sync> everything else sucks 2016-03-30T01:13:15 < Sync> MightyPork: that only works with power supplies without PFC 2016-03-30T01:13:53 < Sync> which are getting increasingly uncommon nowadays 2016-03-30T01:14:31 < Sync> I'm really unsure if you can actually tell anything from the spectra 2016-03-30T01:14:57 < Sync> because there is no way to make sure that it comes from your device 2016-03-30T01:15:20 < MightyPork> I tested it with my 3-speed fan and the speeds were much different in the spectrum, but that's a very artificial test subject 2016-03-30T01:15:49 < MightyPork> yea it all sounds pretty useless now 2016-03-30T01:16:24 < Sync> it will work in very clean networks 2016-03-30T01:16:51 < zyp> Sync, but anyway, why can't I just tie GND to PE for the measurement chip and utilize the fact that the input is differential? (L-PE)-(N-PE) should be equivalent to L-N? 2016-03-30T01:16:53 < Sync> try it when the motor control guys over there are running some tets 2016-03-30T01:17:02 < Sync> and ask them if the disc still sticks in their ceiling 2016-03-30T01:17:04 < MightyPork> I probably won't touch it again after finishing the bachelor, so if it's not perfect, that's ok. but sucks that it wont have a practical use much 2016-03-30T01:17:29 < Sync> you can probably do that in a IT network zyp 2016-03-30T01:17:32 < Sync> but uhhhh 2016-03-30T01:18:29 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-30T01:18:51 < zyp> I mean, the resistor divider will cause a small leakage current, but that should be an order of magnitude lower than the trip current for RCDs and stuff 2016-03-30T01:20:56 < zyp> and it saves me from needing to supply power to two different circuits, isolated from each other 2016-03-30T01:21:06 < zyp> and bridging comms between them 2016-03-30T01:21:18 < Sync> if you are actually trying to sell that stuff, design it isolated 2016-03-30T01:22:03 < karlp> Sync: MightyPork re motor failures, we monitor a few of them, and yeah, the current goes up as bearings wear out. depends on the motors, sure, but we definitely see failures happening from current usage only. 2016-03-30T01:22:31 < Sync> yes, but you don't need the spectra for that karlp 2016-03-30T01:22:38 < kakimir> what you need that for crt ? 2016-03-30T01:23:11 < Sync> I have a 30mA one 2016-03-30T01:23:11 < kakimir> 10mA won't kill you 2016-03-30T01:23:18 < karlp> Sync: totally, wasn't suggesting you did :) 2016-03-30T01:23:24 < kakimir> it peaks at some amps when it goes thru you 2016-03-30T01:23:35 < karlp> totally agrtee with you on not measuring spectra, 2016-03-30T01:23:44 < kakimir> and a few millisecond later it trips 2016-03-30T01:23:51 < TheSeven> nah 2016-03-30T01:23:53 < zyp> Sync, why? 2016-03-30T01:23:56 < Sync> yeah, you can see bearing failures with the current 2016-03-30T01:23:58 < MightyPork> I can calculate I_rms, so can do something with that 2016-03-30T01:24:07 < TheSeven> wouldn't ever reach amps through a human body 2016-03-30T01:24:07 < Sync> zyp: because that won't fly in tn networks imho 2016-03-30T01:24:13 < zyp> why not? 2016-03-30T01:24:32 < Sync> what happens if PE is open? 2016-03-30T01:24:48 < zyp> it's not 2016-03-30T01:24:56 < Sync> no, if it happens 2016-03-30T01:25:03 < Sync> the case would get live 2016-03-30T01:25:52 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-30T01:26:14 < Sync> and that is not an acceptable failure mode 2016-03-30T01:26:19 < TheSeven> worst thing I've had so far was two-wire supplies to lamps etc. in an old house, case of the lamp being bridged to N, and N wire failed => case live (through lamp) 2016-03-30T01:27:07 < Sync> MightyPork: that is the only thing you can do 2016-03-30T01:27:08 < TheSeven> that was over here in germany, but in a 50-60 year old building 2016-03-30T01:27:26 < MightyPork> but the academics love their FFT 2016-03-30T01:27:43 < zyp> Sync, that's a good point 2016-03-30T01:28:02 < MightyPork> okay spectrum will be for show mostly. it's nice for showing off 2016-03-30T01:28:16 < MightyPork> but its a shame .__. 2016-03-30T01:29:01 < kakimir> okay I don't understand anything about this fx2 coding 2016-03-30T01:29:14 < MightyPork> something else I can analyze on the current I've sampled? 2016-03-30T01:29:31 < kakimir> I don't undertand anything about ready lib made for it 2016-03-30T01:29:41 < MightyPork> I mean I can't just write in the thesis that the idea is wrong and can't be used 2016-03-30T01:29:46 < zyp> Sync, I'm actually thinking about adding circuitry to check whether PE is present, but I'm not sure whether that's a strict requirement according to IEC 61851 2016-03-30T01:29:46 < kakimir> maybe if I looked at it for a month 2016-03-30T01:29:55 < Sync> MightyPork: talk to your prof 2016-03-30T01:30:03 < zyp> but that wouldn't help in the situation you talk about 2016-03-30T01:30:09 < Sync> that should have been obvious 2016-03-30T01:30:23 < MightyPork> I will, ofc 2016-03-30T01:30:28 < kakimir> usb controller 2016-03-30T01:30:32 < kakimir> *micro 2016-03-30T01:30:34 < zyp> and considering this floating PE would be connected to the car, it'll make the entire car body live 2016-03-30T01:30:42 < Sync> I'm also not sure if missing pe is a failure mode they predict zyp 2016-03-30T01:30:43 < Sync> but it is one 2016-03-30T01:30:49 < Sync> and it would be fucking dangerous 2016-03-30T01:30:57 < zyp> through a 1Mohm resistor, but still bad 2016-03-30T01:31:02 < kakimir> floating PE what are happenings here? 2016-03-30T01:31:16 < zyp> so yeah, you have a point 2016-03-30T01:31:30 < kakimir> floating PE sounds very much not like PE should be 2016-03-30T01:32:15 < Sync> MightyPork: you sure can write that, there is no shame in that 2016-03-30T01:32:59 < kakimir> board? 2016-03-30T01:33:00 < Sync> zyp: I'm not sure if that is applicable to 61851 but general code 2016-03-30T01:33:07 < kakimir> we are talking about chip 2016-03-30T01:34:13 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-30T01:34:36 < zyp> looks like openevse got a similar problem 2016-03-30T01:34:44 < zyp> http://support.openevse.com/support/solutions/articles/6000052136-openevse-boots-and-displays-error-no-ground-earth-ground- 2016-03-30T01:35:11 < kakimir> fx2lp is I.C. 2016-03-30T01:35:11 < zyp> lines are connected to PE through 22k resistor and led of optoisolator 2016-03-30T01:35:40 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-30T01:35:41 < Sync> yes 2016-03-30T01:35:45 < zyp> less of a problem since the lines are only live when the relays are on 2016-03-30T01:35:46 < Sync> that is probably illegal zyp 2016-03-30T01:36:03 < Sync> because the deathness of a person just depends on the 22k resistor 2016-03-30T01:36:07 < Sync> if that arcs out, GG 2016-03-30T01:36:21 < Sync> I mean, shit has to get real, but uuh 2016-03-30T01:36:30 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-30T01:36:43 < kakimir> crt: no 2016-03-30T01:36:56 < zyp> Sync, so, how would you do PE detection in a sane way? 2016-03-30T01:37:03 < zyp> that's another thing I've wondered about 2016-03-30T01:37:07 < Sync> that is a good question 2016-03-30T01:37:11 < kakimir> I bought china shiet for 5usd 2016-03-30T01:37:29 < zyp> the openevse way causes a larger leakage current than I'd like 2016-03-30T01:37:44 < kakimir> crt: it's a logic analyzer board 2016-03-30T01:38:03 < Sync> zyp: you can probably do it like they do, but using proper technique to minimize the chance of electrocution during failure 2016-03-30T01:38:32 < zyp> well, you can't really do it without drawing a current 2016-03-30T01:38:46 < zyp> and drawing a current introduces a leakage 2016-03-30T01:39:21 < Sync> yeah I mean you can probably inject a few µA 2016-03-30T01:39:25 < Sync> but hmm 2016-03-30T01:40:22 < Sync> can't you clone one of those earth leakage tester things? 2016-03-30T01:40:40 < zyp> what sort of thing? 2016-03-30T01:41:51 < Sync> ah I was dumb, nvm 2016-03-30T01:42:03 < Sync> yeah I actually have no idea how to do that safely 2016-03-30T01:42:21 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-30T01:42:47 < zyp> IEC 61851-22 have a section named «Detection of the electrical continuity of the protective conductor» 2016-03-30T01:43:09 < zyp> but buying standards like that is fucking expensive, so I don't know what it says 2016-03-30T01:44:13 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host152-120-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T01:44:23 < zyp> steal it for me 2016-03-30T01:44:58 < zyp> I mean, I want that and 61851-1, grab me both while you're at it 2016-03-30T01:45:22 < Sync> I could probably walk by the standards room in the library tomorrow 2016-03-30T01:46:50 < zyp> I'm thinking about buying both, but they're kinda too expensive to just buy for a project I'm not sure I'll get around to finish :p 2016-03-30T01:46:58 < Sync> yeah 2016-03-30T01:47:18 < Sync> I wonder why nobody put the medicine on them already 2016-03-30T01:50:10 < kakimir> crt: stm32 is fukken useless as logic analyzer 2016-03-30T01:50:30 < ohsix> it doesn't make toast very well either 2016-03-30T01:50:39 * mitrax puts on his ninja suit 2016-03-30T01:51:31 < Sync> zyp: the problem I see is making sure that you don't kill the user while you measure the PE 2016-03-30T01:51:47 < Sync> and you need quite a high current to make sure it realls is there 2016-03-30T01:51:58 < kakimir> there should not be anything to measure in PE 2016-03-30T01:52:30 < kakimir> but resistance to ground or so 2016-03-30T01:52:43 < kakimir> which should be very very low 2016-03-30T01:53:21 < Sync> if you have a charging station you have to make sure pe is conductive otherwise your car could be live 2016-03-30T01:53:28 < zyp> yes 2016-03-30T01:54:01 < mitrax> zyp: http://download.unfiltered.net/zyp/iec61851-1.zip 2016-03-30T01:54:03 < kakimir> why would you not have conductive PE? 2016-03-30T01:54:05 < Sync> the standards were written for a reason, not because they felt a tingle 2016-03-30T01:54:22 < kakimir> it's also good for static discharge 2016-03-30T01:54:33 < kakimir> before main electrodes are connected 2016-03-30T01:54:37 < Sync> because the goddamn cable broke 2016-03-30T01:54:51 < zyp> mitrax, wrong revision, but thanks 2016-03-30T01:55:21 < mitrax> thought you wanted that one too 2016-03-30T01:55:57 < zyp> yes, but that 2001 revision was superseded in 2010 2016-03-30T01:55:58 < mitrax> zyp: http://download.unfiltered.net/zyp/iec61851-22.zip 2016-03-30T01:56:38 < zyp> nice, that one is still the newest 2016-03-30T01:57:46 < zyp> hmm, the section in question only says «For mode 3 charging, the a.c. electric vehicle charging station shall monitor the electrical continuity of the protective conductor to the electric vehicle. If the a.c. electric vehicle charging station detects a loss of electrical continuity of the protective conductor, the electrical supply circuit to the vehicle shall be opened.» 2016-03-30T01:57:46 < Sync> completely useless tho 2016-03-30T01:57:59 < zyp> kinda surprising 2016-03-30T01:58:07 < Sync> look at page 53 in -1 2016-03-30T01:58:12 < Sync> I suppose that is what they mean 2016-03-30T01:58:21 < Sync> and just #yolo it to see if the station is connected 2016-03-30T01:58:23 < zyp> I would have expected it to apply mainly to mode 2 2016-03-30T01:58:41 < zyp> since mode 2 is portable stuff that gets plugged into all sorts of shitty outlets 2016-03-30T01:58:52 < zyp> mode 3 is fixed installation 2016-03-30T01:58:55 < Sync> yeah 2016-03-30T01:58:57 < Sync> well 2016-03-30T01:59:06 < Sync> interesting! 2016-03-30T01:59:07 < Sync> :D 2016-03-30T01:59:40 < zyp> page 53? 2016-03-30T01:59:47 < Sync> yes 2016-03-30T01:59:58 < zyp> I nothing there about PE continuity 2016-03-30T01:59:59 < Sync> the the control pilot circuit 2016-03-30T02:00:09 < kakimir> This release supports the following platforms: 2016-03-30T02:00:10 < kakimir> - Windows 32-bit 2016-03-30T02:00:10 < kakimir> - Linux x86_64 2016-03-30T02:00:27 < kakimir> sam-ba 2016-03-30T02:00:33 < zyp> Sync, CP is for communicating current limit to car and state from car 2016-03-30T02:00:45 < Sync> equipment ground is PE imho 2016-03-30T02:00:46 < zyp> it's a PE referenced signal, has nothing to do with PE presence 2016-03-30T02:01:08 < Sync> The vehicle protective earth connection provides a return path for the control pilot current. 2016-03-30T02:01:11 < Sync> Therefore, protective earth continuity between the EVSE and the vehicle is continuously 2016-03-30T02:01:14 < Sync> verified if current flows on the pilot line. 2016-03-30T02:01:31 < zyp> yes 2016-03-30T02:01:35 < Sync> that would mean just check if there is current flowing there, just do it 2016-03-30T02:01:44 < zyp> oh, right 2016-03-30T02:01:46 < kakimir> who installs 32bit windows in 2016? 2016-03-30T02:02:08 < kakimir> and who the hell provides 32bit only software in 2016 2016-03-30T02:02:25 < ohsix> most windows software is still 32bit even on a 64bit install 2016-03-30T02:02:32 < kakimir> yes 2016-03-30T02:02:37 < zyp> well, the entire CP current loop will stop working if PE breaks between car and charger 2016-03-30T02:02:46 < ohsix> wow64 bruv 2016-03-30T02:02:59 < zyp> so that's not a concern 2016-03-30T02:02:59 < kakimir> crt: for sum weird embedded shiet? 2016-03-30T02:03:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-30T02:03:03 < Sync> yeah zyp idk 2016-03-30T02:03:06 < kakimir> *mobile 2016-03-30T02:03:11 < Sync> the standard seems to be pretty dumb 2016-03-30T02:03:35 < zyp> okay, maybe checking PE presence between grid and charger isn't a requirement after all 2016-03-30T02:03:52 < Sync> probably not 2016-03-30T02:04:15 < zyp> I know for a fact that some chargers do, some chargers don't 2016-03-30T02:04:20 < Sync> says the 5mA rcd guy 2016-03-30T02:04:34 < Sync> well, I suspect they worry about the same thing as we do 2016-03-30T02:04:46 < Sync> customers being crisps when they touch their cars 2016-03-30T02:05:32 < zyp> mitrax, you wouldn't happen to have access to 61851-1:2010 as well? 2016-03-30T02:06:26 < mitrax> zyp: not sure, hold on 2016-03-30T02:14:34 < englishman> just dangle one of those grounding straps off the car that everyone had in 1996 2016-03-30T02:14:42 < englishman> PE success 2016-03-30T02:15:01 < ohsix> were those grounding straps? 2016-03-30T02:15:08 < ohsix> i thought they were for curb detection or something 2016-03-30T02:15:16 < Sync> or a red light on top of it to signal it is unsafe to touch 2016-03-30T02:15:18 < englishman> curb feelers are even older 2016-03-30T02:15:21 < Sync> like they have in F1 or WEC 2016-03-30T02:15:24 < ohsix> ah 2016-03-30T02:15:45 < englishman> ... Is that a thing? 2016-03-30T02:15:55 < Sync> the lights? 2016-03-30T02:15:56 < Sync> yes 2016-03-30T02:15:59 < Sync> completely dumb 2016-03-30T02:16:06 < englishman> Why would a race car be unsafe to touch? 2016-03-30T02:16:06 < zyp> I saw a car yesterday with the entire exhaust pipe/muffler shit hanging down into the road 2016-03-30T02:16:10 < zyp> driving like that 2016-03-30T02:16:15 < englishman> Lol 2016-03-30T02:16:20 < zyp> probably well grounded 2016-03-30T02:16:24 < Sync> englishman: because the hybrid battery is not disconnected 2016-03-30T02:16:27 < Sync> (hurr) 2016-03-30T02:16:28 < englishman> Just unhook muffler from your EV 2016-03-30T02:16:29 < ohsix> my brothers car has an exploded muffler and the overwrap is hanging down onto the road 2016-03-30T02:17:19 < englishman> Sync: I still don't get it? And do you mean the kers batt? 2016-03-30T02:17:26 < Sync> yes englishman 2016-03-30T02:17:37 < ohsix> englishman: what do the ground straps look like? i don't think i've seen one 2016-03-30T02:17:51 < ohsix> couldn't it just be a sharp point somewhere 2016-03-30T02:18:33 < englishman> So the car exterior has large potential to ground? 2016-03-30T02:19:02 < Sync> no :D 2016-03-30T02:19:15 < ohsix> crt: seems like a bs addon for stupid people 2016-03-30T02:19:18 < mitrax> zyp: http://download.unfiltered.net/zyp/iec61851-1_2010.zip 2016-03-30T02:19:33 < ohsix> or people that don't like getting shocked by their keys i guess 2016-03-30T02:19:34 < zyp> awesome, thanks a lot 2016-03-30T02:19:44 < mitrax> np :) 2016-03-30T02:19:57 < ohsix> i've seen curb feelers as OE, but no ground straps 2016-03-30T02:20:35 < englishman> I googld "car grounding strap" and clicked images 2016-03-30T02:20:59 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-30T02:21:19 < Sync> http://pp.bukovci.si/ interesting 2016-03-30T02:21:34 < ohsix> i guess original equipment is a sutble difference, amirite 2016-03-30T02:21:44 < ohsix> cuz people can put any old shit on their cars for stupid reasons 2016-03-30T02:22:20 < ohsix> it's kind of like asking which car had oem truck nuts 2016-03-30T02:22:28 < Sync> ohsix: actually they can't 2016-03-30T02:22:39 < Sync> at least not in germoney 2016-03-30T02:22:43 < ohsix> Sync: which car came with oem grass on it 2016-03-30T02:23:12 < englishman> zyp, how is the golf (cart) 2016-03-30T02:23:13 < Sync> they can do stuff to it sure 2016-03-30T02:23:18 < Sync> but not a huge lot 2016-03-30T02:23:35 < zyp> englishman, it's nice 2016-03-30T02:24:15 < zyp> had it for a month now, passed 2800km already 2016-03-30T02:24:24 < ohsix> it's probably not a coincidence that all the ground straps have fancy reflectors and hang off the back, kind of like truck nuts 2016-03-30T02:24:45 < englishman> time to change the oil 2016-03-30T02:24:50 < zyp> ;) 2016-03-30T02:25:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T02:25:15 < zyp> drove 580km yesterday, so it's not all that useless for longer trips 2016-03-30T02:25:53 < englishman> Have you found any stm32s inside? 2016-03-30T02:25:58 < zyp> haven't looked 2016-03-30T02:26:10 < zyp> but I wouldn't be surprised 2016-03-30T02:26:19 < ohsix> heh 2800km is pretty close to wats on my bike computer at the moment 2016-03-30T02:26:35 < ohsix> oh 3500 2016-03-30T02:26:39 < Sync> zyp: how long have you spent recharging it on that trip? 2016-03-30T02:26:41 < englishman> I'll also accept stm8 2016-03-30T02:26:45 < ohsix> that's what they're called, it just has a trip meter and shit 2016-03-30T02:27:13 < ohsix> how do you express that in terms of the radius of the tire 2016-03-30T02:27:25 < ohsix> circumference 2016-03-30T02:27:31 < ohsix> me neither 2016-03-30T02:28:01 < zyp> Sync, hmm, unsure, probably in the range of 2-3 hours total, probably more than required too 2016-03-30T02:28:02 < englishman> even skydivers have trip meters, no pedals 2016-03-30T02:28:18 < Sync> k 2016-03-30T02:28:20 < Sync> so useless 2016-03-30T02:28:30 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tdgxctxhpkdnodpw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-03-30T02:28:45 < zyp> I found that the fast charger where I planned to stop to eat dinner was free, so it sat there charging for longer than required 2016-03-30T02:28:46 < Sync> did 800km yesterday with 120kmh avg 2016-03-30T02:29:05 < zyp> haha, can't do that in norway :) 2016-03-30T02:30:21 < zyp> you'll either run out of road rated for speeds like that or end up in sweden 2016-03-30T02:30:43 < Sync> well, I had the cruise control set at 170kmh 2016-03-30T02:30:51 < Sync> but had to do some country roads 2016-03-30T02:31:27 < ohsix> i go at a blistering 35km/h sometimes 2016-03-30T02:31:54 < ohsix> i need to switch it to km cuz the numbers are bigger ;D 2016-03-30T02:32:20 < Sync> only had to stop once to refuel for ~8min 2016-03-30T02:32:23 < englishman> 580km would maybe get me to the end of the driveway 2016-03-30T02:32:27 < Laurenceb_> 35 faps per second 2016-03-30T02:32:57 < zyp> hmm 2016-03-30T02:33:11 < zyp> 103 minutes of paid fast charging yesterday 2016-03-30T02:33:25 < zyp> plus the one that were free 2016-03-30T02:34:00 < Sync> yeah that can fuck right off to say it the dongleway 2016-03-30T02:34:52 < Sync> altough I'd drive the fuck out of a powerful kawaii keicar 2016-03-30T02:39:23 < zyp> Sync, I agree that you win on travel time, but do you wanna compare fuel cost? ;) 2016-03-30T02:39:46 < Sync> fuel cost is not important to me 2016-03-30T02:39:56 < Sync> my time is worth more than the fuel 2016-03-30T02:41:20 < zyp> idk that I'd win that comparion either, if fuel is significantly cheaper in .de than here 2016-03-30T02:42:12 < Sync> I paid around 1.25€/l yesterday 2016-03-30T02:43:02 < zyp> oh, that's pretty much the same 2016-03-30T02:43:17 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-17-163.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-30T02:43:25 < Sync> well, it was a holiday yesterday 2016-03-30T02:43:44 < zyp> I think I saw one station here at 1.19€/l 2016-03-30T02:43:54 < Sync> for petrol, not diesel 2016-03-30T02:43:59 < zyp> which is the cheapest I've seen in ages 2016-03-30T02:44:00 < zyp> yes 2016-03-30T02:44:04 < Sync> yeah 2016-03-30T02:44:21 < zyp> how much did you use per distance driven? 2016-03-30T02:44:41 < Sync> idk, I suppose around 9l/100km 2016-03-30T02:45:56 < zyp> i.e. 11.25€/100km 2016-03-30T02:46:57 < Sync> yes 2016-03-30T02:47:25 < zyp> hmm, I think I come out to 4.08€/100km 2016-03-30T02:48:03 < Sync> yeah I could have driven slower and gotten it down to 5l/100km 2016-03-30T02:48:08 < Sync> but eh 2016-03-30T02:48:11 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-30T02:48:16 < Sync> there is no fun in that 2016-03-30T02:48:24 < zyp> fast charging is not super cheap compared to gas 2016-03-30T02:48:47 < zyp> but that's not where the real EV savings are either 2016-03-30T02:48:56 < Sync> yeah, the network here is not that good to be any useful 2016-03-30T02:49:00 < ohsix> don't they have smart meters with off peak cost 2016-03-30T02:49:06 < Lux> isn't that cost estimation missin the battery wear ? 2016-03-30T02:49:09 < zyp> fast charging here is around five times as expensive as home charging 2016-03-30T02:49:17 < ohsix> oh nm 2016-03-30T02:49:29 < zyp> Lux, sure it is, it's also missing the gasoline engine wear 2016-03-30T02:49:51 < Sync> well, you can calculate 30ct/km for all stuff 2016-03-30T02:49:57 < Lux> yeah, but an engine will last a lot longer 2016-03-30T02:50:19 < Lux> i'm pretty sure batteries won't last much longer than 5-8 years 2016-03-30T02:50:45 < zyp> heh :) 2016-03-30T02:50:50 < ohsix> based on what 2016-03-30T02:51:15 < ohsix> they have neat battery management that's kind of new for wide deployment of massive packs 2016-03-30T02:51:16 < Lux> data you can get on lithium cells 2016-03-30T02:51:31 < zyp> pretty much all new modern EVs here are sold with an 8 year warranty on the battery 2016-03-30T02:51:41 < zyp> so at least the manufacturers are pretty sure it'll last longer 2016-03-30T02:51:48 < ohsix> where's the data that models how they're actually used in cars vs. the data that actually exists on cell aging an dmodelling 2016-03-30T02:51:50 < Lux> you can probably get 10 years if they'd use lifepo4 2016-03-30T02:52:05 < Sync> I actually wonder if they managed to do that zyp 2016-03-30T02:52:12 < Sync> because shit will get deepcycled and all 2016-03-30T02:52:22 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-17-163.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T02:52:37 < Lux> but yeah it's pretty hard to tell with not much data available on batteries in cars 2016-03-30T02:52:57 < Lux> i bet in a few years we'll get better estimates with real data 2016-03-30T02:53:02 < zyp> Sync, nah, there's a lot of reserved buffer space in the top and bottom to avoid that 2016-03-30T02:53:24 < ohsix> there should be reliability reports for early EVs 2016-03-30T02:53:37 < Lux> iirc cars only go up to 80% dod 2016-03-30T02:53:41 < zyp> yeah 2016-03-30T02:54:00 < Sync> well, I know I'd run my ev to the extremes 2016-03-30T02:54:14 < Sync> but yeah they are limiting the discharge 2016-03-30T02:54:28 < ohsix> why wouldn't the battery management protect them for reliability 2016-03-30T02:54:36 < zyp> the mercedes electric drive got a range extender mode, that fully charges the battery for when you really need it 2016-03-30T02:54:59 < ohsix> also maintaining average wear, so the batteries don't derate much over their life 2016-03-30T02:55:04 < zyp> but users are discouraged to use it often 2016-03-30T02:55:45 < Sync> yeah idk 2016-03-30T02:55:58 < Sync> in the end all the evs just don't fit my usage profile 2016-03-30T02:56:01 < zyp> I don't care much either way 2016-03-30T02:56:13 < Sync> they either are too slow or can't go far enough 2016-03-30T02:57:01 < zyp> like I said, my car got an 8 year warranty on the battery anyway, and I expect that the tech improves enough in that time that I'd be tempted to replace the car by then anyway 2016-03-30T02:57:13 < Sync> yeah sure 2016-03-30T02:58:15 < Sync> but I wonder what the fine print to that is 2016-03-30T02:58:34 < Sync> there is no way that they are actually warranting them for 8 years 2016-03-30T02:58:41 < zyp> there's some percentage of acceptable capacity loss 2016-03-30T03:00:47 < ohsix> it's almost like people using the batteries are assumed to not know what they're doing 2016-03-30T03:01:52 < aandrew> mitrax: can you put that IEC standard back up for a moment? 2016-03-30T03:03:36 < ohsix> hrm 2016-03-30T03:03:45 < ohsix> nothing but anecdotes about tesla battery packs, no public information 2016-03-30T03:04:34 < ohsix> these battery systems are water cooled and temperature controlled and shit too 2016-03-30T03:05:04 < zyp> tesla's are 2016-03-30T03:05:19 < zyp> but not all 2016-03-30T03:05:32 < ohsix> sure 2016-03-30T03:07:19 < ohsix> it's just the type of thing that makes them entirely different and extrapolation from readily available battery modelling and study junk isn't tenable 2016-03-30T03:08:06 < ohsix> all the car makers have done tests and stuff but they're not likely to disclose anything 2016-03-30T03:08:42 < Laurenceb_> can someone explain what "explicit" in a c++ class header means? 2016-03-30T03:09:14 < ohsix> it means it will never be considered for automatic use 2016-03-30T03:09:15 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ 2016-03-30T03:09:20 < ReadError> if im buying something from the UK 2016-03-30T03:09:22 < ohsix> gotta call it specifically by name 2016-03-30T03:09:24 < ReadError> and its like VAT INCLUDED 2016-03-30T03:09:27 < Sync> aandrew: nothing of interest in there, really 2016-03-30T03:09:28 < ReadError> but im in the USA 2016-03-30T03:09:33 < Sync> just dumb blabbing 2016-03-30T03:09:33 < ReadError> do they take 20% off? 2016-03-30T03:10:28 < Laurenceb_> ReadError: no vat on exports 2016-03-30T03:10:32 < Laurenceb_> so 20% off 2016-03-30T03:10:35 < ReadError> oh word 2016-03-30T03:10:39 < ReadError> that helps a bunch then thx 2016-03-30T03:11:32 < ohsix> http://www.msr-waypoint.com/en-us/um/people/jckrumm/Publications%202012/2012-01-0489%20SAE%20published.pdf 2016-03-30T03:11:48 < zyp> 17% off, if VAT is 20% 2016-03-30T03:11:52 < ohsix> 'how people use their vehicles: statistics from the 2009 national household travel survey' 2016-03-30T03:12:02 < ReadError> yea says 20% VAT included 2016-03-30T03:12:06 < ohsix> not what i was looking for but is interesting / data on real driving behaviour 2016-03-30T03:12:20 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/CVXwmb0S 2016-03-30T03:12:52 < Laurenceb_> any idea why line 13 is an error? 2016-03-30T03:13:10 < Laurenceb_> fileselectdialog.h:13: error: new types may not be defined in a return type 2016-03-30T03:14:31 < zyp> no ; on line 33 perhaps? 2016-03-30T03:14:43 < Laurenceb_> lol I fail 2016-03-30T03:14:44 < Laurenceb_> thanks 2016-03-30T03:15:04 < Laurenceb_> was staring at the wrong line 2016-03-30T03:15:11 < zyp> that's the kind of shit clang is supposed to report better on than gcc 2016-03-30T03:18:11 < ohsix> heh @ ev battery testing systems, 1000V +/-2400A 2016-03-30T03:20:11 < Sync> http://dobixx.webd.pl/feltcasefactory/foto/adapter/v1.JPG nice 2016-03-30T03:20:21 < Sync> insulate that heatsource very good! 2016-03-30T03:20:24 < ohsix> there's a lot of energy you might have to get rid of if you service or test these things, i wonder if some of them are grid tied to put power back on there :p 2016-03-30T03:20:26 < Sync> because that is what it needs 2016-03-30T03:20:46 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-30T03:22:18 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T03:22:24 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-17-163.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-30T03:24:00 < ohsix> hm 2016-03-30T03:24:14 < ohsix> the tesla uses nickel cobalt aluminum cathode junk 2016-03-30T03:24:49 < ohsix> lower cycles higher specific energy 2016-03-30T03:26:27 < ohsix> was hoping i could find something meaningful for these applications but that is going to make it even harder 2016-03-30T03:27:29 < ohsix> i bet those dumb artech house books on battery management and electronic vehicles that nobody pirates has citations :[ 2016-03-30T03:34:37 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-17-163.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T04:06:03 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-30T04:27:57 -!- aep [~aep@libqxt/developer/aep] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T04:28:31 < dongs> Sync: got, 3.6/ea or so around 2016-03-30T04:34:06 -!- aep [~aep@libqxt/developer/aep] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T04:34:44 < englishman> found zyps fast volkswagen charger https://youtu.be/UE0YuuR9-F0 2016-03-30T04:37:29 < kakimir> weak neutral wire? 2016-03-30T04:37:38 < kakimir> is it a thing? 2016-03-30T04:40:33 < kakimir> if you load all phases evenly the neutral wire should like.. not be that much loaded 2016-03-30T04:40:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T04:44:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-30T04:45:08 < upgrdman> noob question: if multiple shits are sharing a jtag bus, are they all just wires in parallel? 2016-03-30T04:45:12 < kakimir> with pure ohmic load shouldn't neutral wire be 0? 2016-03-30T04:45:15 < upgrdman> wired* 2016-03-30T04:45:41 < kakimir> no 2016-03-30T04:45:42 < dongs> upgrdman: TDI->TDO 2016-03-30T04:45:45 < dongs> the rest in paralell 2016-03-30T04:46:04 < Thorn> upgrdman: google jtag chain 2016-03-30T04:46:04 < dongs> look at some xilinx/etc schema where tehy have platform flash and fpga on same chain 2016-03-30T04:46:07 < kakimir> chain like that 2016-03-30T04:46:12 < upgrdman> k thx 2016-03-30T04:46:17 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-30T04:49:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:74d8:8f2f:efc:6f72] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-30T04:52:49 < ohsix> http://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/7/9/5675/pdf 2016-03-30T04:53:18 < ohsix> not exactly data but you can usually infer the stuff that matters from people that know how to model them 2016-03-30T04:55:05 < PeterM> kakimir, the neutral wire is connected to earth at the power post and at the premisis, and it uninsulated steel wire since it carries very little current, generally none. it is used to physically hole the other wires in the air. i assume the "weak neutral wire" was physically weak, snapping and allowing all the phase wires to fall and stretch, either snapping or stretchign insulation etc 2016-03-30T04:56:52 < dongs> Sync: beeap 2016-03-30T04:59:19 < kakimir> I bet someone had some machine driven to it 2016-03-30T04:59:27 < ohsix> sup dongs 2016-03-30T04:59:50 < kakimir> truck, excavator or so 2016-03-30T05:13:30 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-30T05:13:57 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T05:26:30 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-30T05:27:43 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: g'nite] 2016-03-30T05:28:07 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T05:30:26 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.62] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T05:57:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T06:12:01 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.62] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-03-30T06:25:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-30T06:29:58 -!- amstan [~alex@c-73-189-221-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T07:02:21 < wbraun> I am trying to switch to openOCD from st-util and having some issues 2016-03-30T07:04:15 < ohsix> what issues? 2016-03-30T07:04:58 < ohsix> i had a problem with um, flash flags; had to use st-util to clear it and couldn't program the part, and something else with the default config that comes with openocd but i don't remember the details 2016-03-30T07:08:18 < wbraun> I can not get openOCD to connect to the adaptor 2016-03-30T07:08:42 < wbraun> I have a STM32F0 discovery board 2016-03-30T07:09:16 < wbraun> so I should be able to test things out with “openocd -f /board/stm32f0discovery.cfg” 2016-03-30T07:09:56 < wbraun> or as I do not think I modified my udev/rules I launch it with sudo 2016-03-30T07:10:11 < wbraun> but its erroring out and saying open failed 2016-03-30T07:10:29 < ohsix> probably have to verify that first 2016-03-30T07:11:00 < ohsix> just strace or something, or check permissions for the usb device; openocd comes with some rules you can drop in but i think i had to modify them as late as last year 2016-03-30T07:12:16 < wbraun> if I launch it with sudo it should be fine? 2016-03-30T07:12:23 < wbraun> that was the case with st-util 2016-03-30T07:12:38 < ohsix> seems easy to just try 2016-03-30T07:12:47 < ohsix> they access the same usb device 2016-03-30T07:13:04 < wbraun> it works it st-util 2016-03-30T07:13:05 < ohsix> st-util wouldn't have needed root if it could open the device (via the udev rules or Other(TM)) 2016-03-30T07:13:19 < wbraun> so I think I am doing something else wrong with openocd? 2016-03-30T07:13:47 < ohsix> openocd is only going to need root to open the jtag/swd adapter 2016-03-30T07:13:57 < ohsix> _if_ it can't because of udev rules 2016-03-30T07:16:37 < ohsix> http://repo.or.cz/openocd.git/blob/HEAD:/contrib/99-openocd.rules this should be installed automatically in most cases, but if you're building from source you probably need to copy it manually 2016-03-30T07:18:24 < ohsix> ah hm yea that rule file is bullshit 2016-03-30T07:18:29 < ohsix> you don't use plugdev anymore 2016-03-30T07:18:51 < ohsix> it's a group that only existed on ubuntu 2016-03-30T07:19:26 < ohsix> s/GROUP="plugdev"/TAG+="uaccess"/g 2016-03-30T07:20:20 < wbraun> should the basic command I gave work? 2016-03-30T07:20:24 < wbraun> or is it not enough 2016-03-30T07:20:38 < wbraun> its from the first page of some documentation I was looking at 2016-03-30T07:20:50 < ohsix> i think the board files for the discovery boards do work 2016-03-30T07:21:34 < ohsix> i had to use more than one script for what i was doing, cuz i had a jlink2 clone or something and a board that had an m0 swd on it 2016-03-30T07:21:57 < ohsix> if i made a board script for it, it would just do those two things for me as a set, which is afair the discovery boardfiles do 2016-03-30T07:23:47 < ohsix> yep, that loads interface/stlink-v2 and target/stm32f0x for you 2016-03-30T07:24:32 < wbraun> the the command fails the same if the discovery is plugged in or not 2016-03-30T07:24:45 < wbraun> Error: open failed 2016-03-30T07:24:56 < wbraun> in procedure ‘transport’ 2016-03-30T07:25:03 < wbraun> in procedure ‘init’ 2016-03-30T07:25:10 < wbraun> so something seems to be very wrong 2016-03-30T07:25:12 < ohsix> probably have to provide a full path for the board cfg 2016-03-30T07:25:24 < ohsix> since the file isn't in / root /board 2016-03-30T07:27:30 < wbraun> I tried removing the name of the file / altering the name of the file and it gave a different error message 2016-03-30T07:27:41 < wbraun> so I think its finding the file? 2016-03-30T07:27:55 < wbraun> but just in case, where actually are these files / whats the path? 2016-03-30T07:28:01 < ohsix> k 2016-03-30T07:28:03 < wbraun> I tried to find them and could not 2016-03-30T07:28:20 < ohsix> so transport is going to be your interface which is the stlink-v2, you're back to the udev/permission problems again 2016-03-30T07:29:22 < ohsix> http://repo.or.cz/openocd.git/blob/HEAD:/tcl/interface/stlink-v2.cfg 2016-03-30T07:29:45 < ohsix> that'll try and go on to open the usb device with that vid/pid 2016-03-30T07:36:15 < wbraun> that gave me an error 2016-03-30T07:36:18 < wbraun> different error 2016-03-30T07:36:37 < wbraun> “sessions transport is not selected” 2016-03-30T07:36:53 < wbraun> sudo openocd -f foo.cfg 2016-03-30T07:36:54 < ohsix> k you're close to having it figured out anyways, openocd is a bit confusing with the example configuration files 2016-03-30T07:36:54 < wbraun> right? 2016-03-30T07:37:07 < ohsix> yea, assuming udev/permissions aren't setup right 2016-03-30T07:37:15 < ohsix> oh hang on 2016-03-30T07:37:20 < ohsix> i have a discovery board here i can check it out 2016-03-30T07:37:24 < wbraun> “error: session’s transport is not selected" 2016-03-30T07:37:30 < ohsix> it's not the f0 one but it should be close enough 2016-03-30T07:38:41 < ohsix> hm this is an mbed one 2016-03-30T07:40:56 < wbraun> looking at the USB devices with lsusb 2016-03-30T07:41:57 < wbraun> its “0483:374b” STMicroelectronics ST-LINK/V2.1 (Nucleo-F103RB) 2016-03-30T07:42:35 < ohsix> k yea mine just worked 2016-03-30T07:43:09 < ohsix> i have openocd installed from the repos, i go to /usr/share/openocd/scripts and do sudo openocd -f board/st_nucleo_f4.cfg and it works 2016-03-30T07:43:24 < ohsix> without sudo the error message is very clear, it's from libusb and it can't access the device 2016-03-30T07:43:27 < wbraun> it looks like the PID does not match the Stlink 2016-03-30T07:43:40 < ohsix> is it a legit device and just the board? 2016-03-30T07:44:12 < ohsix> there is a board/st_nucleo_f3.cfg 2016-03-30T07:44:18 < ohsix> try that, it uses stlink-v2-1 2016-03-30T07:45:10 < ohsix> :| i know someone was just talking about how cool it was to use openocd across the network but i forgot that i can in a lame way; i can put a new stack on the little shitbox i can connect it to and i should be 2016-03-30T07:45:37 < wbraun> I do not see that one in /board 2016-03-30T07:45:48 < wbraun> prehaps the version from the ubuntu PPA is old? 2016-03-30T07:48:05 < wbraun> so it looks like I need to make this from source or something? 2016-03-30T07:48:09 < ohsix> is that' what you're using? 2016-03-30T07:48:15 < wbraun> this is so typical of my STM32 experiences.... 2016-03-30T07:48:25 < ohsix> the version in the main repos was new enough for what i was doing, i didn't need to use a ppa 2016-03-30T07:48:42 < ohsix> the one i'm currently using is just current from fedora 23 repos 2016-03-30T07:49:01 < ohsix> you don't have any board/st_nucleo_*.cfg files? 2016-03-30T07:49:21 < wbraun> nope, only STM* 2016-03-30T07:49:46 < ohsix> which version of openocd, i think they've been in there for a really long time 2016-03-30T07:50:05 < ohsix> the one i'm using is 0.9.0 2016-03-30T07:50:51 < wbraun> 0.7.0 2016-03-30T07:50:52 < wbraun> :/ 2016-03-30T07:50:55 < wbraun> is there a ppa? 2016-03-30T07:51:11 < ohsix> http://repo.or.cz/openocd.git/commit/be97da76abdba80a8e67d9c2e893bdbd32565887 2016-03-30T07:51:13 < ohsix> well then 2016-03-30T07:51:35 < ohsix> no idea, probably should just build it yourself at this point 2016-03-30T07:51:38 < wbraun> yep, thats the other board I am testing with -.- 2016-03-30T07:51:40 < ohsix> which ubuntu version? 2016-03-30T07:53:07 < ohsix> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openocd untrusted sources are at the bottom (ppas) but it looks like wily/xenial is up to date 2016-03-30T07:53:32 < ohsix> openocd isn't a complicated package, you can probably just use the .deb from wily on even a really old install of ubuntu 2016-03-30T07:54:45 < ohsix> heh :< 2016-03-30T07:55:14 < wbraun> what are the different verions listed on that page / why do I have the old package? 2016-03-30T07:55:36 < ohsix> it will be based on the version of ubuntu you're running / and i have no idea 2016-03-30T07:55:42 < wbraun> -.- 2016-03-30T07:55:54 < wbraun> is there any easy way to fetch the new package? 2016-03-30T07:56:04 < ohsix> yea you can do it from that page 2016-03-30T07:56:23 < ohsix> click on the arrow that points to the right under wily werewolf 2016-03-30T07:56:32 < ohsix> find build that matches the arch fo your install 2016-03-30T07:56:55 < ohsix> click, built files on that next page will have a .deb 2016-03-30T08:00:36 < wbraun> bleh, some dependancy crap 2016-03-30T08:00:48 < wbraun> I will have to try to build from source tomorrow or something 2016-03-30T08:00:54 < wbraun> thanks for the help though! 2016-03-30T08:00:59 < wbraun> hopfully it will work 2016-03-30T08:01:02 < ohsix> it will 2016-03-30T08:01:04 < ohsix> :p 2016-03-30T08:01:15 < ohsix> the config files were the most confusing thing about openocd 2016-03-30T08:01:33 < ohsix> if they wrote the documentation talking about interface/transport/device i would have known what i needed to when it didn't work for me 2016-03-30T08:01:49 < wbraun> I should just buy a black magic probe 2016-03-30T08:01:54 < ohsix> but, weigh that against just working for a lot of people, i dunno 2016-03-30T08:02:00 < wbraun> hardware and has a GDB port 2016-03-30T08:02:02 < ohsix> it's all the same in the end really 2016-03-30T08:02:04 < ohsix> right 2016-03-30T08:02:15 < wbraun> I am tired of wasting all my time chasing down weird stuff like this 2016-03-30T08:02:19 < ohsix> i was using openocd to flash/reset mine 2016-03-30T08:02:29 < ohsix> openocd can do a lot of stuff 2016-03-30T08:02:48 < wbraun> as I might be moving to openocd I might as well buy a better jtag device 2016-03-30T08:03:08 < wbraun> what are the counterfet ones everyone buys off ebay called? 2016-03-30T08:03:11 < ohsix> something like bmp providing a gdb port probably does too but i'd probably ditch it for openocd if it didn't do some trivial thing i needed 2016-03-30T08:03:20 < ohsix> just 'jlink' clone 2016-03-30T08:03:21 < ohsix> er stlink 2016-03-30T08:03:32 < ohsix> you have a real stlink on your discovery board 2016-03-30T08:03:42 < ohsix> you just have to move some jumpers and you can use it with other swd devices 2016-03-30T08:04:50 < wbraun> Its not very reliable 2016-03-30T08:05:00 < wbraun> It cuts out some times 2016-03-30T08:05:11 < ohsix> hm, weird 2016-03-30T08:05:15 < wbraun> I jlink clone is ~ $20 so I might as well buy one 2016-03-30T08:05:17 < ohsix> should be as reliable as any other stlink 2016-03-30T08:05:25 < ohsix> sec i'll get you a listing for one i have 2016-03-30T08:06:07 < ohsix> er well, i don't have this one in this case but it's the same thing http://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-Link-V2-Shell-STM8-STM32-Emulator-Downloader-Programming-Debugger-Unit-/371295635365?hash=item5672f1c7a5:g:48wAAOSwPhdVG67z 2016-03-30T08:06:43 < ohsix> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DZ399-1pcs-St-link-v2-stm8-stm32-artificial-device-programmer-stlink-/131264166296?hash=item1e8ff43998:g:1xMAAOSw7NNT5Jaa i have this one cuz i wanted the pins to stick up for retarded reasons :< 2016-03-30T08:07:08 < ohsix> it's the same thing that's on the nucleo boards 2016-03-30T08:09:45 < wbraun> jlink works with other things though 2016-03-30T08:10:09 < ohsix> ah right 2016-03-30T08:10:27 < ohsix> just thinking of swd/swim since that's on all the arm junk i'm interested in 2016-03-30T08:10:48 * wbraun > bed 2016-03-30T08:10:51 < wbraun> thanks for the help 2016-03-30T08:11:39 < ohsix> the real big stlink you can get from st does jtag, just some extra pins; maybe not even extra pins 2016-03-30T08:11:42 < ohsix> np, cya 2016-03-30T08:12:12 < ohsix> http://www.support.code-red-tech.com/CodeRedWiki/HardwareDebugConnections?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=cortexDebugETM_20pin.png 2016-03-30T08:12:54 < ohsix> er wtf that's something else; http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/mcb1700/mcb1700_cortex_debug_plus_jtag.png 2016-03-30T08:16:45 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T08:20:45 < ohsix> wbraun: might be the altera usb blaster, the clone cheap name 2016-03-30T08:35:43 < ohsix> http://www.bikeshophub.com/contentimage/large/2008/07/img_54161.jpg wut 2016-03-30T08:38:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-59.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T08:45:14 < upgrdman> in altidongs schematics, if there's a named net, is there an easy way to find out where it goes? 2016-03-30T08:45:44 < ohsix> is there a node view popup or a way to see the netlist, don't use altium but that's what i'd look for :< 2016-03-30T08:45:55 < PeterM> find similar > wire > same net 2016-03-30T08:46:16 < dongs> upgrdman: ctrl+click 2016-03-30T08:47:29 < dongs> er no alt click 2016-03-30T08:48:20 < ohsix> crt: my cat would do that if it was looking at bugs 2016-03-30T08:49:30 < ohsix> werdup 2016-03-30T08:49:43 < ohsix> some junk on google about big cats mimicing some prey that way 2016-03-30T08:50:36 < ohsix> that's as excited as cats get i guess 2016-03-30T08:50:44 < ohsix> it's like a dog really flipping out 2016-03-30T08:50:52 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaiR14JQlOU 2016-03-30T08:52:48 < ohsix> my cat is r i p like woah, i should have gotten another one, they're nice to have around 2016-03-30T08:58:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@84-217-185-59.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T09:02:01 < ohsix> junior bacon cheeseburgers 2016-03-30T09:03:05 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-17-163.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-30T09:09:08 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T09:14:37 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T09:15:54 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T09:22:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T09:24:24 < Sync> dongs: noice 2016-03-30T09:25:46 < Sync> I'd do that for 50 2016-03-30T09:33:15 < PeterM> crt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOTpIVxji8 2016-03-30T09:36:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-30T09:36:31 < PeterM> nm 2016-03-30T09:36:41 < PeterM> just bloggin 2016-03-30T09:40:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T09:41:14 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.148] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-30T09:46:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T09:51:12 < PeterM> 0 cool stuff today 2016-03-30T09:52:38 < ohsix> what happens on a cool day 2016-03-30T09:52:41 < ohsix> or what is the cool stuff 2016-03-30T09:53:22 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-30T09:53:38 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T09:59:46 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-30T10:14:15 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5jvUXij7nU 2016-03-30T10:25:00 < qyx> karlp: no, I just did a stm32f107 ethernet temperature monitor 2016-03-30T10:25:25 < qyx> gxti has a stm32f107 ethernet GPS NTP server 2016-03-30T10:25:54 < qyx> iirc zyp is doing something with power 3 phase metering 2016-03-30T10:26:00 < qyx> *3 phase power metering 2016-03-30T10:26:49 < zyp> qyx, short term I'm mainly caring about single phase 2016-03-30T10:33:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.105] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T10:44:01 < PeterM> zyp i was thinking about your problem with detecting if PE is present, could you measure current flow between L nad PE but also clamp PE within say 20v of N, so if there is no PE present, it wouldnt float up to 230v, only like 20v~, and if you detect 20v on PE you jsut turn off charger? 2016-03-30T10:45:54 < PeterM> and if L and N are swapped, since it clamps to 20v, it will trip overcurrent 2016-03-30T10:45:55 < qyx> a RCD killing charger 2016-03-30T10:46:11 < qyx> heh 2016-03-30T10:46:58 < PeterM> qyx, erm RCD is for liek 30ma, you only need like 20uA for a decent reading 2016-03-30T10:50:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T10:54:33 < zyp> PeterM, that doesn't work in IT networks, since there's no N at the same level as PE 2016-03-30T10:55:17 < PeterM> ahh 2016-03-30T10:58:49 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthing_system#IT_network 2016-03-30T11:06:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.233] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T11:15:59 < PeterM> zyp i dont think it is possible to detect a missing PE connection practically in an IT system 2016-03-30T11:16:42 < PeterM> there will always be some edge cases where it wont work 2016-03-30T11:17:50 < jpa-> zyp: couldn't you just take the average of phase voltages using resistor divider, and then measure against that? 2016-03-30T11:18:46 < PeterM> jpa-, no, because the distribution system is floating, so it could be at pe+ 10kv due to capacitive effects for all oyu know 2016-03-30T11:19:11 < PeterM> it seems pretty safe, you need a double fault for any real harm 2016-03-30T11:19:13 < zyp> haha, no 2016-03-30T11:19:24 < jpa-> PeterM: hmm, yeah, seems to say so 2016-03-30T11:21:28 < zyp> there's enough coupling (inductive, capacitive) to keep it centered between the phase conductors, unless there's a fault 2016-03-30T11:21:42 < zyp> a single fault will easily trip a 30mA RCD 2016-03-30T11:21:45 < PeterM> how much end-end connectivity do you have? could stick a 1khz 1vp-p on the earth and detect it at the other end 2016-03-30T11:22:24 < zyp> none 2016-03-30T11:22:29 < zyp> but eh 2016-03-30T11:22:47 < zyp> the standards doesn't seem to require it 2016-03-30T11:23:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T11:24:55 < zyp> and I'm targetting fixed installations and semiportable setups hooked to industrial outlets, not "plug into any random outlet" setups, so it's reasonable to assume PE is present 2016-03-30T11:26:01 < PeterM> i wonder if you went outside, hammered a long bit of coppe rod into the ground a meter or two and hooked it to a phase with some big chunky wire could you kill someone (aside from yourself) 2016-03-30T11:28:29 -!- amstan [~alex@c-73-189-221-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-30T11:28:55 < zyp> unlikely 2016-03-30T11:38:13 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T11:38:27 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-30T11:38:27 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T11:53:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T11:54:16 < dongs> Sync: sure. 2016-03-30T11:54:24 < dongs> just lemme know, can ship directly to your scamplace. 2016-03-30T11:59:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T12:01:00 < Sync> kk dongs 2016-03-30T12:01:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.241] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T12:03:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-30T12:05:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T12:06:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T12:09:02 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T12:13:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Produce-gerber-file-for-PCB/ 2016-03-30T12:13:54 < dongs> cheaper to just buy raspberrypi + relay shield???? 2016-03-30T12:14:00 < dongs> or arduino or anything 2016-03-30T12:14:59 < dongs> We have a small electronics project.Our schematic is ready.We have placed components on the board at required location.Your task is to just do the Layout/Routing of the board.Project is in eagle cad. Dont expect hundreds of dollars coz Its a quick project for one experienced in Eagle 2016-03-30T12:15:22 < ohsix> relay boards are like a dollar 2016-03-30T12:15:35 < ohsix> with purportedly '20a' capacity, 2 of them, ttl input 2016-03-30T12:15:54 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/TpIzzmA.jpg 2016-03-30T12:15:57 < dongs> this is his current device 2016-03-30T12:16:08 < dongs> i dont even 2016-03-30T12:16:29 < dongs> i think its a mechanical delay circuit? 2016-03-30T12:17:06 < dongs> i see a magnet and reed 2016-03-30T12:17:27 < ohsix> that's interesting 2016-03-30T12:17:36 < ohsix> it just brings a weight up and stops 2016-03-30T12:18:01 < ohsix> wonder wat it comes from, it's well made for such a thing 2016-03-30T12:18:10 < ohsix> ahh 2016-03-30T12:18:16 < ohsix> it opens greenhouse vents or slides or something 2016-03-30T12:18:39 < dongs> http://www.axt-electronic.eu/ 2016-03-30T12:18:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-30T12:18:47 < ohsix> do i have to log in to see the juicy stuff 2016-03-30T12:20:04 < dongs> AXT-electronic has a 30-year track record of manufacturing electronic products designed to facilitate the keeping of small domestic animals. Today, it is the world’s leader in vertical slide gate opening and closing devices for poultry houses (henhouses, chicken houses, chicken coops, pop hole openers) 2016-03-30T12:20:13 < dongs> not hard to be a leader when you're the onyl one 2016-03-30T12:24:31 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T12:25:39 < ohsix> yea but that's kind of cool 2016-03-30T12:25:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.41] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T12:25:58 < ohsix> it's something people really need but too uninteresting or too small a scale for a lot of people to be doing it 2016-03-30T12:26:25 < dongs> http://www.axt-electronic.org/eu_shop/en/shop/vsb/280/vsbb-elektronischer-pfoertner-mit-batterien?c=38 2016-03-30T12:26:29 < dongs> so that thing costs 106 eur 2016-03-30T12:26:44 < ohsix> the tension stop is neat 2016-03-30T12:26:47 < dongs> he wants to clone it in china for up to 250gbp 2016-03-30T12:26:57 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-30T12:27:02 < ohsix> that might be wworth doing 2016-03-30T12:27:13 < ohsix> since it's just some reed switches 2016-03-30T12:27:18 < ohsix> the mechanical stuff is the hard part 2016-03-30T12:58:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-30T13:01:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T13:01:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-30T13:02:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T13:53:38 < karlp> qyx: ahh, gxti I think also had the power meter, thanks for reminding me of that nick 2016-03-30T13:56:31 < dongs> fuckin silabs 2016-03-30T13:56:48 < dongs> Sorry due to the wafer issue, the demod sample should postpone to 4/ 29. 2016-03-30T13:56:57 < dongs> might as well postpone it to 4/20 2016-03-30T13:57:26 < Sync> > wafer issue 2016-03-30T14:24:46 < dongs> Hi guys, 2016-03-30T14:24:46 < dongs> I'm looking for a genius in C, and C++ Programming to do some work. See the file and then contact me. Also if you put a price please stay with it.**DO NOT WAST MY TIME 2016-03-30T14:24:49 < dongs> I only need pro to work with **The programming should be on Microsoft visual Studio2010 2016-03-30T14:27:07 < dongs> i have server file for online game 3d for PC i want to complete missing thing at it but i dont have source for client 2016-03-30T14:27:11 < dongs> ( c++ ) i just have client so we use Ida pro or any programmed to extract data from it by make Reverse Engineering then 2016-03-30T14:27:14 < dongs> code it to server file ( c# ) and i have some assets file like ( full game list item ..skills ...monster ...npc code 2016-03-30T14:27:18 < dongs> and game master console list ) 2016-03-30T14:27:25 < dongs> ya, ok 2016-03-30T14:36:16 < mitrax> of course 2016-03-30T14:40:44 < dongs> https://medium.com/@21/ping21-earn-bitcoin-by-monitoring-uptime-and-latency-807f212509f4#.ue8rmpwgg 2016-03-30T14:40:47 < dongs> lol 2016-03-30T14:44:49 < karlp> wow, mbed api is teh suck http://blog.mbed.com/post/137808406402/a-disco-effect-looping-and-wait-in-mbed-os?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRoluKzJZKXonjHpfsX%2F7%2B8sULHr08Yy0EZ5VunJEUWy3IYFSdQ%2FcOedCQkZHblFnV8JSK2mXbgNrq0F 2016-03-30T14:45:37 < dongs> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 2016-03-30T14:45:42 < BrainDamage> freecancer 2016-03-30T14:46:07 < dongs> karlp: that cant be for real 2016-03-30T14:46:14 < dongs> is tehre no fucking timer.attach() or somethign 2016-03-30T14:50:13 < karlp> tell me about it 2016-03-30T14:50:43 < lorenzo> minar::Scheduler::postCallback(fp.bind(turns_left - 1, delay_ms)).delay(minar::milliseconds(delay_ms)); 2016-03-30T14:50:44 < lorenzo> eh? 2016-03-30T14:51:17 < lorenzo> :( 2016-03-30T14:51:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T14:51:58 < dongs> whatever that is, it can fuck right off 2016-03-30T14:52:13 < lorenzo> mbed os 2016-03-30T14:53:50 < mitrax> fucking fartfs lib doesn't want to open subdirs wtf 2016-03-30T14:54:06 < jpa-> because you fail 2016-03-30T14:54:07 < dongs> u doin wrong 2016-03-30T14:54:10 < dongs> ^ 2016-03-30T14:54:30 < dongs> role your own 2016-03-30T14:54:59 < mitrax> well i'm doing something wrong that's for sure, question is, what, seems like it doesn't like the 0:/subdir/ path 2016-03-30T14:55:09 < dongs> ... 2016-03-30T14:55:11 < dongs> do you even fat 2016-03-30T14:55:15 < dongs> its 0:\faggot\ 2016-03-30T14:55:16 < dongs> not / 2016-03-30T14:55:20 < dongs> / is lunix trash 2016-03-30T14:55:51 < jpa-> (dunno if it actually cares, i don't use subdirectories ;) 2016-03-30T14:55:52 < mitrax> \ or / is not relevant to the FS, and the lib itself add a / suffix to the volume name 2016-03-30T14:56:31 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T14:56:31 < mitrax> i went for backslash first, then noticed it created the drive letter with a slash 2016-03-30T14:59:43 < mitrax> ah... it doesn't want a slash or backslash at the end, stupid... 0:/ works as argument, but 0:/subdir/ doesn't, has to be 0:/subdir 2016-03-30T15:01:39 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T15:05:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-30T15:06:01 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-30T15:06:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-30T15:06:28 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T15:06:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T15:10:25 -!- saph0 [~hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T15:13:17 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.224] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-30T15:15:55 < PeterM> what is a milo kunis? 2016-03-30T15:16:09 < mitrax> some hot chick apparently 2016-03-30T15:17:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-30T15:24:16 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T15:24:17 < qyx> PeterM: btw the inverter.. I cannot come up with a single stage switching topology for AC-AC conversion 2016-03-30T15:25:06 < qyx> It can be done as you siggested - full wave rectifier + half bridge inverter, that is 4 switches, but high voltage 2016-03-30T15:36:33 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@cst-prg-5-10.cust.vodafone.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T15:45:55 < mitrax> weird... i get garbage as name & size when enumerating the content of certain directories, some are perfectely fine, with long filenames and all, and other just random garbage 2016-03-30T15:47:38 < zyp> fsck that 2016-03-30T15:49:48 < mitrax> i would if i had a micro SD to sd adapter to plug on the computer, it's the microsd of my android phone though, which reads those directories fine 2016-03-30T15:50:59 < mitrax> oh 2016-03-30T15:52:09 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-30T15:53:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Develop-IMU-card-for-USB/ 2016-03-30T15:53:42 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/hikmettekin.html 2016-03-30T15:54:23 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/AutoCAD/ELECTRICAL-SWITCHBOARD-DESIGN-MUST/ sup crt 2016-03-30T16:01:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T16:09:19 < PeterM> qyx yeah, i think primary side hbridge because at 48-56v you need as low rDSon as you can get, and if you go 2 switch, you need 2x rated voltage or 2x the current neither are good. then on the secondary you could go split supply rectifier and then IGBT inverter, so 2 diodes and 2 switches on the secondary or you could go centre tapped secondary 2 diodes for full wave rectification, and then full bridge mosfet inverter on the output 2016-03-30T16:09:33 < PeterM> or igbts there too 2016-03-30T16:16:39 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@cst-prg-5-10.cust.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-30T16:17:07 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@cst-prg-5-10.cust.vodafone.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T16:18:28 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50.194.10.105] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T16:20:45 < PeterM> are you rooting for GaN fets or somethign flyback? 2016-03-30T16:21:02 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-30T16:24:44 < qyx> http://www.powerguru.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/The-drawings-demystify-the-full-bridge-phase-shift-principle.jpg 2016-03-30T16:25:01 < dongs> qyx, you freelancin? 2016-03-30T16:25:02 < qyx> I am using this, but somehow he regulation works only between 0-90° 2016-03-30T16:25:23 < qyx> going from 90 to 180° doesn't change much 2016-03-30T16:25:52 < qyx> dongs: no, just diying for myself 2016-03-30T16:29:54 < kakimir> I got my bricked jlink clone conneceted in right mode now when I use lunix machine 2016-03-30T16:30:05 < kakimir> but this lunix sam-ba is some crap 2016-03-30T16:30:48 < kakimir> you need to write scripts for it 2016-03-30T16:37:17 < PeterM> qyx i'd love to help but atm too stoned to think of anything that isn't instinct based 2016-03-30T16:47:48 < kakimir> they do not include configs but for 3 different chips 2016-03-30T16:54:58 < kakimir> because you want to write your of shiet 2016-03-30T16:57:58 < kakimir> what is this samba... where is all the nice GUI 2016-03-30T16:58:26 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-91-51.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T16:58:45 < dongs> apparentl you raent even supposed to use samba in 2016 2016-03-30T16:59:00 < kakimir> what is the recoomend 2016-03-30T17:00:51 < dongs> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-user-share/3.8/gnome-user-share.html 2016-03-30T17:01:04 < dongs> webdav/mdns 2016-03-30T17:01:12 < kakimir> I talk about sam-ba 2016-03-30T17:01:13 < mitrax> he means sam-ba not samba / SBM 2016-03-30T17:01:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T17:01:17 < mitrax> err SMB 2016-03-30T17:01:52 < dongs> sounds liek fagmel 2016-03-30T17:02:21 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-30T17:02:30 < kakimir> let's see crash magix 2016-03-30T17:03:44 < kakimir> it's nxp 2016-03-30T17:03:57 < kakimir> then sam-ba 2.16 old version 2016-03-30T17:05:03 < mitrax> cock 2016-03-30T17:06:34 < kakimir> cock it works 2016-03-30T17:06:46 < kakimir> why did they ruine it 2016-03-30T17:07:36 < kakimir> it has graphical dialog and shiet 2016-03-30T17:09:27 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T17:12:13 < kakimir> nice one done one left 2016-03-30T17:32:39 < kakimir> one done one left? 2016-03-30T17:32:44 < kakimir> I don't understand 2016-03-30T17:40:34 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T17:54:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-30T18:02:24 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Electronics-Project-with-PIC/ ivan spotted 2016-03-30T18:03:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T18:27:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-30T18:27:38 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T18:38:49 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50.194.10.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-30T18:39:17 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T18:39:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T18:42:15 < dongs> what frequency does systick run at 2016-03-30T18:42:18 < dongs> isnt it 72? 2016-03-30T18:42:19 < dongs> on F1 2016-03-30T18:47:20 < dongs> k 2016-03-30T18:47:20 < dongs> it is 2016-03-30T18:47:29 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T18:48:46 < jpa-> hclk 2016-03-30T19:00:54 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T19:03:57 < kakimir> 3d plane with cc3d on board 2016-03-30T19:04:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-30T19:04:26 < kakimir> very nice 2016-03-30T19:04:49 < kakimir> even with factory settings 2016-03-30T19:05:09 < kakimir> like flying a feather around 2016-03-30T19:07:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T19:09:55 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T19:12:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T19:15:08 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@cst-prg-5-10.cust.vodafone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-30T19:32:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-30T19:39:40 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/niTjVQX 2016-03-30T19:39:46 < Laurenceb_> unfixed 2016-03-30T19:43:50 -!- Shavik_ is now known as Shavik 2016-03-30T19:46:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T19:50:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.116] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T19:51:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T19:55:58 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-91-51.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-30T20:02:11 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T20:05:05 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T20:12:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.28.89] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T20:36:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@177.192.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T20:36:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:84de:40a8:86e4:c94e] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T20:46:51 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T20:58:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-30T21:09:41 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@177.192.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T21:10:46 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-30T21:11:39 < jpa-> wow, two Tectu_s 2016-03-30T21:11:45 < jpa-> this is going to be a fun fun night 2016-03-30T21:12:37 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@177.192.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-30T21:15:17 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T21:15:29 < Steffann> One didn't seem to enjoy that thought jpa- 2016-03-30T21:16:15 < jpa-> i guess Tectu_ doesn't like me anymore 2016-03-30T21:17:52 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T21:18:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T21:18:16 < Tectu_> I fucking love you, jpa- 2016-03-30T21:19:34 < jpa-> gr8 2016-03-30T21:51:18 < emeb> https://twitter.com/thepunningman/status/714849872214626304 2016-03-30T22:04:26 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T22:05:22 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T22:07:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T22:08:53 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-03-30T22:14:45 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T22:25:56 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-106-18.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T22:26:48 < wbraun> almost have openOCD working with my board + stlinkV2-1! 2016-03-30T22:26:53 < wbraun> Encountering one issue though 2016-03-30T22:27:20 < wbraun> it seems that with the configuration file I based my .cfg on for my board it expected to be able to use the physical reset 2016-03-30T22:27:34 < wbraun> but I only have the 4 wire SWD, which does not include reset 2016-03-30T22:28:05 < wbraun> and as a result, it seems to be failing to erase the flash 2016-03-30T22:28:25 < wbraun> “error erasing flash with vFlashErase packet” 2016-03-30T22:28:44 < wbraun> How can I modify the openOCD configuration file to avoid this? 2016-03-30T22:45:04 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-30T22:45:49 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T22:48:35 < Fleck> wbraun: try #openocd or ##openocd 2016-03-30T22:56:56 < qyx> I commented out the line #reset_config srst_only srst_nogate 2016-03-30T22:57:22 < qyx> I don't know if it is the right approach, but 2 wire swd started working 2016-03-30T22:59:27 < wbraun> right now I have reset_config none 2016-03-30T22:59:45 < wbraun> and it is still failing to erase the flash it seems 2016-03-30T23:00:07 < wbraun> I think the issue is that the STM32 dev boards all connect the SWD reset line 2016-03-30T23:00:41 < wbraun> and I am trying to modify the .cfg file from one of the boards 2016-03-30T23:01:04 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-30T23:02:24 < wbraun> do you have a example file for the programming a stand alone STM32 I could look at qyz? 2016-03-30T23:02:52 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-30T23:05:41 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T23:14:22 < qyx> yes, an empty one with just two lines 2016-03-30T23:14:26 < qyx> source [find interface/stlink-v2.cfg] 2016-03-30T23:14:30 < qyx> source [find target/stm32f3x_stlink.cfg] 2016-03-30T23:15:03 < qyx> I am using Ldiscovery or F4discovery with stlinkv2 to program custom boards 2016-03-30T23:16:34 < wbraun> I ok. That is ~ the same as mine 2016-03-30T23:16:39 < wbraun> prehaps this is a GDB issue 2016-03-30T23:16:48 < wbraun> what is your GDB config? 2016-03-30T23:17:21 < lorenzo> lol eagle autorouter 2016-03-30T23:17:22 < lorenzo> http://i.imgur.com/C4wO1AA.png 2016-03-30T23:17:29 < lorenzo> why am I even using this 2016-03-30T23:17:59 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-30T23:19:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.28.89] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-30T23:21:10 < jadew> why are you even using an autorouter? 2016-03-30T23:21:34 < Steffann> Not questioning his use of eagle? 2016-03-30T23:21:36 < jadew> or eagle for that matter 2016-03-30T23:22:21 < lorenzo> jadew: sometimes I have some hope that teh algorithms improved 2016-03-30T23:22:36 < lorenzo> it must be doing all kind of very complicated calculations eh 2016-03-30T23:23:03 < lorenzo> I also have to understand copper fills 2016-03-30T23:23:09 < lorenzo> place something -> it disappears 2016-03-30T23:23:11 < jadew> it's obviously doing them wrong 2016-03-30T23:23:11 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T23:23:14 < lorenzo> rerun rastnest -> it reappears 2016-03-30T23:23:25 < jadew> lorenzo use something else 2016-03-30T23:23:35 < jadew> eagle blows 2016-03-30T23:23:51 < lorenzo> yup, luckily the SoM manfacturer has files for altidongs too 2016-03-30T23:24:30 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-30T23:25:04 < jadew> I wouldn't touch altium, not unless I had a lot of money or if it generated a lot of money 2016-03-30T23:25:48 < jadew> nothing that has a yearly license is worth it for an end user 2016-03-30T23:25:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:84de:40a8:86e4:c94e] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-30T23:26:00 < jadew> a license that when expires, you can't use the program anymore 2016-03-30T23:26:21 < jadew> (not even if you get it for free) 2016-03-30T23:26:45 < jadew> even if you can get it for free now, it doesn't mean that 5 years from now you'll still be able to 2016-03-30T23:27:00 < jadew> and if you won't, then your old files will be held hostage by altium 2016-03-30T23:27:25 < jadew> so you will have to pay an arbitrary ammount for a license if you'll want them back 2016-03-30T23:27:44 < jadew> which odds are that you won't do, so you will forfit your work 2016-03-30T23:29:46 < jadew> you could of course send them to someone like dongs, who has altium and he can export them to PDF 2016-03-30T23:30:07 < jadew> but I hear he has ties with the chinese so he could just pass them over to them and they'll clone the crap out of your stuff 2016-03-30T23:30:13 < jadew> do you want the chinese to clone your blinky? 2016-03-30T23:30:59 < jadew> thought so. 2016-03-30T23:31:43 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKakFXMHEwZno3aXc/view?usp=sharing I need some patch with really strong glue to this.. any recommends? 2016-03-30T23:31:46 < Sync> or you just export your designs as gerbers and don't look back 2016-03-30T23:32:47 < Laurenceb_> so pro http://optics.eee.nottingham.ac.uk/wiki/Motion_artifact_reduction_for_reflection_mode_photoplethysmography 2016-03-30T23:33:56 < jadew> kakimir, make sure you first kill whatever is inside that door 2016-03-30T23:34:29 < jadew> or is it a door? 2016-03-30T23:34:59 < BrainDamage> seems like a car seat to me 2016-03-30T23:35:01 < kakimir> seat 2016-03-30T23:35:07 < kakimir> snowmobile 2016-03-30T23:35:14 < kakimir> never buy snowmobile 2016-03-30T23:35:23 < kakimir> unless you have money and time 2016-03-30T23:35:27 < Sync> wot Laurenceb_ 2016-03-30T23:36:14 < BrainDamage> superglue and a felt patch should suffice, just beware of the fumes that are quite irritating 2016-03-30T23:36:49 < kakimir> I consume CA fumes 2016-03-30T23:37:18 < Laurenceb_> http://optics.eee.nottingham.ac.uk/w/images/thumb/8/89/Mjb_optical_matrix.png/800px-Mjb_optical_matrix.png 2016-03-30T23:40:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-30T23:42:07 < BrainDamage> hyperberry pi for blogging pourposes? 2016-03-30T23:43:35 < Laurenceb_> and fpga 2016-03-30T23:43:55 < Laurenceb_> all to flash some LEDs 2016-03-30T23:45:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-30T23:46:04 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] --- Day changed Thu Mar 31 2016 2016-03-31T00:05:17 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@177.192.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-31T00:21:59 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T00:23:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T00:23:39 < Rob235> hmmm 2016-03-31T00:24:22 < Rob235> if you found an error on a web store that let you get items for free and you used it would you let them know about the flaw? 2016-03-31T00:26:09 < lorenzo> Rob235: ##philosophy 2016-03-31T00:26:47 < lorenzo> Rob235: I'd place an order and then send a "oh I accidentally items for free" out of guilt a week later 2016-03-31T00:27:59 < Rob235> i already got the order, I'm not an asshole, I didn't order a lot, it was just a test that I honestly didn't think would work 2016-03-31T00:30:28 < ohsix> the assertion that you're not an asshole is probably a good indicator that you think you should tell them 2016-03-31T00:31:36 < lorenzo> odd they didn't notice though, must be a large shop 2016-03-31T00:32:10 < Rob235> I don't think it's that big 2016-03-31T00:34:25 < mitrax> Rob235: don't 2016-03-31T00:34:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-31T00:34:44 < Rob235> no? 2016-03-31T00:34:59 < ohsix> go order more and make sure you're right, dont' want to tell them unless you're certain 2016-03-31T00:35:07 < Rob235> haha 2016-03-31T00:35:10 < ohsix> should be lots more, maybe they mean to give stuff away under a certain value 2016-03-31T00:35:11 < Rob235> nah I wouldn't do that 2016-03-31T00:35:49 < Rob235> its a specific bug, I don't want to describe it but it's only for certain types of items 2016-03-31T00:36:08 < mitrax> well... in my experience sometimes it's better to stay quiet, i mean, don't abuse it, but if you want to tell them make sure they won't sue your ass because you "exploited a security flaw" or whatever, i know the error has nothing to do with a hack but sometimes people react weirdly 2016-03-31T00:38:35 < Rob235> yea I don't know if I want to get involved... maybe I could just send an anonymous email 2016-03-31T00:38:42 < mitrax> there was this story of a guy who found a company he knew had intranet documents indexed by google, so all their shit was accessible, he grabbed a few files as a test, then he let them know 2016-03-31T00:39:03 < mitrax> the company sued him... and believe or not, he was charged 2016-03-31T00:41:50 < Rob235> my bet would be the worst that will happen is they ask me to send the item back.. 2016-03-31T00:42:07 < Rob235> information is different 2016-03-31T00:49:45 < Sync> the worst is that you will be charged for fraud 2016-03-31T00:49:49 < Sync> and get assraped 2016-03-31T00:51:27 < kakimir> get assburger 2016-03-31T00:54:24 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKSF9tQUJaUnZ1cFU/view?usp=sharing they delivered 2016-03-31T00:54:34 < kakimir> weight 90grams 2016-03-31T00:54:39 < kakimir> about what I calculated 2016-03-31T00:54:48 < kakimir> something like 85grams 2016-03-31T00:54:59 < mitrax> shiny SMA! 2016-03-31T00:55:22 < kakimir> SMA for radio ghettomod 2016-03-31T01:01:59 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-31T01:02:17 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-106-18.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-31T01:14:29 < kakimir> I need to custom my jlink serial numbers 2016-03-31T01:19:03 < kakimir> /o\ 2016-03-31T01:20:31 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T01:22:25 < kakimir> none.exe 2016-03-31T01:22:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-03-31T01:23:11 < kakimir> electronicwise unbricked few jlinks today 2016-03-31T01:23:46 < kakimir> tested 3d plane with coptercontrol on board 2016-03-31T01:23:49 < kakimir> really nice 2016-03-31T01:23:52 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-31T01:24:08 < kakimir> I have it with me right here 2016-03-31T01:24:34 < kakimir> it's flat wire coil 2016-03-31T01:24:50 < kakimir> it's because 2016-03-31T01:25:13 < kakimir> some surface currents and vortex stuff 2016-03-31T01:25:24 < kakimir> no 2016-03-31T01:25:44 < kakimir> I did not because it's noway near the peak 2016-03-31T01:25:57 < mitrax> ahahaha 2016-03-31T01:26:21 < kakimir> there is like some stuff happenings in the coil wire that makes flat wire better 2016-03-31T01:26:25 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-31T01:26:57 < kakimir> I want bigger coils 2016-03-31T01:27:33 < kakimir> custom coil 2016-03-31T01:27:42 < kakimir> why not just torroid it? 2016-03-31T01:29:05 < kakimir> funky 2016-03-31T01:29:50 < kakimir> it's cryptic to me 2016-03-31T01:30:24 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-27-81.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T01:33:18 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T01:34:58 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/a/SlfAg 2016-03-31T01:38:20 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-03-31T01:41:07 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-31T01:41:20 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-153.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T01:41:34 -!- cwillu_ [~cwillu@204-83-117-123.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-31T01:45:17 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T01:54:59 -!- cwillu_ [~cwillu@204-83-117-123.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T01:55:31 < kakimir> I had weird dream 2016-03-31T01:55:37 < kakimir> last nite 2016-03-31T01:55:51 < kakimir> alternative future 2016-03-31T01:56:22 < kakimir> communist takeover 2016-03-31T01:59:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-31T01:59:44 -!- cwillu_ is now known as cwillu_\ 2016-03-31T01:59:47 -!- cwillu_\ is now known as cwillu 2016-03-31T02:08:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T02:08:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T02:12:38 < kakimir> i wonder if my laber writer would work connected to lunix host and then like over network 2016-03-31T02:13:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-31T02:13:37 < kakimir> I wonder what to print while I'm at it 2016-03-31T02:24:39 < kakimir> penis + phone number 2016-03-31T02:25:47 < kakimir> not that I know 2016-03-31T02:26:02 < kakimir> I don't really do anything what requires such 2016-03-31T02:28:23 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@host152-120-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-31T02:28:23 -!- lorenzo [~lorenzo@unaffiliated/lorenzo] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T03:08:27 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T03:12:45 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LCD-Digital-Pen-Aquarium-Pool-Water-Test-Meter-Measure-PH-Tester-Durable-/381451700280 how does the sensor in these function? 2016-03-31T03:14:09 < kakimir> I have one very similar or even almost identical device.. it has something looking a bit like small bulb lamp there 2016-03-31T03:16:27 < Laurenceb_> http://www.emdrive.com/EmDriveForceMeasurement.pdf 2016-03-31T03:16:30 < kakimir> http://www.explainthatstuff.com/how-ph-meters-work.html 2016-03-31T03:16:40 < Laurenceb_> Indeed, in the UK when the background force changes were eliminated, in an effort to improve force measurement resolution, no EmDrive force was measured 2016-03-31T03:16:51 < Laurenceb_> emdrive confirms emdrive is fake 2016-03-31T03:17:21 < kakimir> hmm 2016-03-31T03:17:22 < kakimir> so 2016-03-31T03:17:28 < kakimir> when do you get your money back? 2016-03-31T03:17:58 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T03:19:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-31T03:20:06 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@rle-eecs-mtl-dhcp-27-81.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-31T03:20:29 < kakimir> when does UK go communism Laurenceb_ ? 2016-03-31T03:20:47 < Laurenceb_> when Crobyn gets elected 2016-03-31T03:20:50 < Laurenceb_> ie never 2016-03-31T03:21:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T03:21:08 < Laurenceb_> http://skeletontech.com/150629_Skelcap_Ultracapacitor_Cylindrical.pdf 2016-03-31T03:21:20 < Laurenceb_> insane if true 2016-03-31T03:22:29 < kakimir> how much a pop? 2016-03-31T03:22:56 < Laurenceb_> probably a lot 2016-03-31T03:23:47 < Laurenceb_> not enough energy density for electric vehicles :-/ 2016-03-31T03:24:39 < kakimir> I wonder what are figures for a carbonfiber flywheel 2016-03-31T03:24:55 < Laurenceb_> lower than battery 2016-03-31T03:25:14 < Laurenceb_> li-ion is the highest energy density of any realistic energy storage technique 2016-03-31T03:25:29 < Laurenceb_> pity it doesnt last very long / many cycles 2016-03-31T03:26:18 < Laurenceb_> LG li-ion is about 1MJ/Kg, Tesla is supposedly ~1.1, but they use panasonic cells that arent sold to anybody else :-/ 2016-03-31T03:32:56 < ohsix> The server was unable to allocate from the system nonpaged pool because the server reached the configured limit for nonpaged pool allocations. 2016-03-31T03:32:57 < ohsix> gg 2016-03-31T03:36:55 < kakimir> fukken heliterror 2016-03-31T03:37:06 < kakimir> constant low frequency noise 2016-03-31T03:38:04 < kakimir> where I live there is no other noises 2016-03-31T03:38:48 < Laurenceb_> heliterror lul 2016-03-31T03:40:40 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-31T03:42:05 < kakimir> how it feels like 3:30AM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1sD4QKIYAENyML.jpg 2016-03-31T03:44:12 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-03-31T03:53:13 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_AH-64_Apache#/media/File:AH-64_Apache_extraction_exercise.jpg 2016-03-31T03:58:13 < kakimir> the chopper spinned down somewhere within few kilometers 2016-03-31T03:59:11 < kakimir> rotor 2016-03-31T03:59:14 < kakimir> * 2016-03-31T04:05:56 < aandrew> I guess that's funny for some definition of funny 2016-03-31T04:07:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-31T04:12:29 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/yen5Fwy 2016-03-31T04:23:20 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/o7cDT0N 2016-03-31T04:23:41 < dongs> unfunny 2016-03-31T04:33:00 < ohsix> is 'by the beetles' funny 2016-03-31T04:33:10 < ohsix> or are you 11 2016-03-31T04:34:57 < dongs> I'm 13 so shut up 2016-03-31T04:35:00 < dongs> or ill call your mom 2016-03-31T04:40:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-31T04:42:39 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T04:47:11 < ohsix> windows has more knobs than freebsd 2016-03-31T04:47:12 < ohsix> This setting is normally the best setting to use for all servers except dedicated file servers or with applications exhibiting file server-like characteristics. 2016-03-31T04:47:40 < ohsix> fudge dum parameters you're just supposed to increase if there's a problem, oh and you're supposed to find this thing in the first place 2016-03-31T04:48:37 < dongs> how's your stm32 fileserver doing 2016-03-31T04:48:48 < ohsix> done 2016-03-31T04:49:00 < ohsix> serves semihosted files over slip 2016-03-31T04:49:16 < dongs> i dont see corresponding hackaday post 2016-03-31T04:59:15 < ohsix> hackaday never posts anything i do 2016-03-31T04:59:18 < ohsix> they're too cool 2016-03-31T04:59:33 < ohsix> crt: yea it's not even 'bad', it's just so cringe 2016-03-31T04:59:36 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-03-31T05:00:13 < ohsix> it's probably one dude talking to himself 2016-03-31T05:01:17 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxS9Lv142U relevant irrelevant inception video 2016-03-31T05:02:14 < dongs> and yet people who post on dick-a-day have actually done something 2016-03-31T05:02:22 < dongs> where's crt's and fail6 stm32 projects? 2016-03-31T05:03:11 < ohsix> i dunno man 2016-03-31T05:03:23 < ohsix> i decided a while ago that if i didn't make it on hackaday i'm going to keep it private 2016-03-31T05:03:32 < ohsix> ask brian krebs 2016-03-31T05:06:14 < ohsix> the internet is so full of shit, microsoft should really do something about it 2016-03-31T05:06:28 < ohsix> a million fucks that don't know what things do and they're fucking with it 2016-03-31T05:06:50 < ohsix> 'nice guys' who's anecdote completely wash out any useful information about anything they might talk about 2016-03-31T05:07:10 < ohsix> yea it's not good 2016-03-31T05:07:16 < ohsix> there's a post every 4 hours too, on a timer 2016-03-31T05:07:26 < ohsix> they don't give a shit 2016-03-31T05:07:41 < ohsix> there's no real commentary from anyone posting things but they try and add some words like they're not just reposting something 2016-03-31T05:07:56 < ohsix> i've been reading at least the titles for a few years now 2016-03-31T05:11:44 < dongs> punchline: Want to run the most professional productivity apps for design and engineering? Sadly, that’s Windows as well. 2016-03-31T05:12:58 * Laurenceb_ is trying to work out how to work out horse heartrate 2016-03-31T05:13:29 < Laurenceb_> I'm guessing take abs of all channels, add, then correlate this signal with a delayed version of itself 2016-03-31T05:13:58 < Laurenceb_> look for sharp peak in correllelogram 2016-03-31T05:14:01 < Laurenceb_> i canna spell 2016-03-31T05:14:51 < ohsix> there's a thing for that and it's not just autocorrelation 2016-03-31T05:14:55 < ohsix> has a name, lemme see if i can find it 2016-03-31T05:15:05 < Laurenceb_> sounds interesting 2016-03-31T05:16:04 < ohsix> huh nxp has a neat datasheet about it 2016-03-31T05:16:10 < ohsix> http://www.nxp.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/app_note/AN4059.pdf?amp%3Btid=AMdlDR 2016-03-31T05:16:23 < ohsix> probably has it in there, eating dinner, bbl 2016-03-31T05:17:37 < Laurenceb_> lol figure 14 2016-03-31T05:17:38 < Laurenceb_> thanks 2016-03-31T05:17:52 < Laurenceb_> fig 14 has already eaten dinner 2016-03-31T05:18:43 < dongs> nicec 2016-03-31T05:19:15 < ohsix> might have been thinking of these tho https://acls-algorithms.com/rhythms/ 2016-03-31T05:19:17 < ohsix> huhuhu 2016-03-31T05:19:25 < ohsix> it's like diagnosing a car 2016-03-31T05:20:29 < Laurenceb_> hmm yeah I dont see bpm calculation in the freescale app note 2016-03-31T05:20:46 < dongs> .. 2016-03-31T05:20:59 < dongs> isnt that one kinda obvious 2016-03-31T05:21:04 < dongs> just count them and time? 2016-03-31T05:21:08 < dongs> wiht some averaging 2016-03-31T05:26:46 < dongs> flycack would know 2016-03-31T05:35:38 < ohsix> hear eevblag slurpin some lip moisture in latest video 2016-03-31T05:35:57 < ohsix> also pronounces linux wrong, correcting him on each video might be funny after a few years 2016-03-31T05:36:03 < ohsix> like chinese water torture 2016-03-31T05:37:53 < dongs> them views are dropping like flies 2016-03-31T05:38:06 < dongs> trying hard to stay relevant 2016-03-31T05:38:39 < ohsix> do you think there's a reason 2016-03-31T05:38:51 < ohsix> he was doing the same shit while it was going 'up' 2016-03-31T05:39:00 < dongs> yes, the content hasn't been "ee" for years 2016-03-31T05:39:06 < dongs> if ever 2016-03-31T05:39:15 < dongs> now its just v, and blog. 2016-03-31T05:39:35 < ohsix> what are the fundamentals fridays things 2016-03-31T05:40:05 < dongs> wot 2016-03-31T05:40:30 < ohsix> they're videos he does that are nothing but ee 2016-03-31T05:40:34 < ohsix> hm 2016-03-31T05:40:43 < dongs> youre talking to me like i actualy watch anything on that hcannel 2016-03-31T05:40:54 < ohsix> google should grow the smarts to enable '1k ' and show prices 2016-03-31T05:41:03 < ohsix> how do you know about views and what he does if you don't? 2016-03-31T05:41:17 < dongs> pulling them out of my ass, as usual 2016-03-31T05:41:23 < ohsix> ic 2016-03-31T05:43:18 < ohsix> http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/eevblog/monthly that's actually some pretty good graph thingz there for growth and stuff 2016-03-31T05:44:14 < ohsix> i'm hoping to see a video where there isn't an end frame that is the subscribe/patron/another video link 2016-03-31T05:44:27 < ohsix> i miss the magic smoke and in retrospect supercool outro. 2016-03-31T05:44:55 < ohsix> jajaj 2016-03-31T05:45:03 < ohsix> i never look at comments on these things, he's got his own trolls 2016-03-31T05:48:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T05:53:07 < Laurenceb_> eevblog 2016-03-31T05:53:13 < Laurenceb_> reading that is the issue 2016-03-31T05:53:16 < ohsix> yea it's right in the name 2016-03-31T05:53:46 < ohsix> heh google has graph info blocks for word etymologies 2016-03-31T05:54:04 < ohsix> https://www.google.com/search?q=etymology+of+the+word+pornography 2016-03-31T05:54:24 < ohsix> needs a new name, not writing about whores anymore 2016-03-31T05:55:51 < ohsix> microsoft technet is broke :[ 500 on almost every page 2016-03-31T05:56:17 < dongs> technet has been dead for years 2016-03-31T05:56:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.148] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-03-31T05:56:32 < ohsix> bing still indexes it 2016-03-31T06:02:05 < ohsix> only mentioned bing cuz it's also microsoft and if it still indexes it it's probably supposed to be working 2016-03-31T06:03:55 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-03-31T06:04:03 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T06:05:25 < Laurenceb_> pro hyperloop http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-05/15/content_17509215.htm 2016-03-31T06:05:39 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0aEldCCxN8 2016-03-31T06:05:44 < Laurenceb_> that tunnel doesnt look strong enough 2016-03-31T06:05:46 < ReadError> Tampa Mother ‘HIRES’ A Hood Stripper For Her Son’s 8-Year-Old BIRTHDAY PARTY!!(1) 2016-03-31T06:05:47 < ReadError> lol 2016-03-31T06:07:03 < Laurenceb_> triggered 2016-03-31T06:07:25 < ohsix> 'hires' 2016-03-31T06:07:53 < dongs> hire spics 2016-03-31T06:09:51 < ohsix> http://archive.arstechnica.com/tweak/nt/ 2016-03-31T06:10:26 -!- cwillu [~cwillu@204-83-117-123.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-03-31T06:10:44 < ohsix> For those of you with physical RAM in the three-digit range, you're likely losing out on some performance by not allocating that spare memory to disk caching. 2016-03-31T06:10:52 < ohsix> a few probably 2016-03-31T06:11:12 < dongs> 3 digits? 2016-03-31T06:11:30 < dongs> like above 128gb? 2016-03-31T06:11:42 < ohsix> above 80mb 2016-03-31T06:11:59 < dongs> sorry waht is this nonsense 2016-03-31T06:12:09 < dongs> i stopped counting memory in "mb" in like 1996 2016-03-31T06:12:20 < ohsix> i want to know kung fu so i went back to read ab out nt4 2016-03-31T06:13:38 < ohsix> this was cutting ej tech reporting in 2003 bro 2016-03-31T06:16:53 < Laurenceb_> this channel is shitpost central 2016-03-31T06:17:15 < Laurenceb_> I'm gunna have to start DESIGNATED poo in loo crab and propane posting soon 2016-03-31T06:18:37 < Laurenceb_> http://leekyforums.com/thread/317109/news/faggots-have-taken-over-leeky-forums-with-crab.html 2016-03-31T06:19:27 < Laurenceb_> When will the government do something about crabposting? 2016-03-31T06:19:27 < Laurenceb_> As soon as Trump gets elected. :^) 2016-03-31T06:19:30 < Laurenceb_> truth 2016-03-31T06:19:48 < ohsix> what is leeky 2016-03-31T06:19:56 < Laurenceb_> its a spoof of 4chan 2016-03-31T06:20:06 < ohsix> people complaining about crap posts are hipsters 2016-03-31T06:21:08 < ohsix> ya man they liked the thing before it was cool 2016-03-31T06:21:14 < ohsix> and now it's cool they're reactionary 2016-03-31T06:21:21 < ohsix> get off my lawn 2016-03-31T06:22:29 < ReadError> ohsix 2016-03-31T06:22:31 < ReadError> http://www.trampaboards.com/35-holypro-trampa-deck-on-ultimate-trucks-superstar-wheels--ratchet-bindings--728-black-mountainboard-mountainboard--black-edition-superstars-p-12373.html 2016-03-31T06:22:39 < ReadError> ordered dat bitch 2016-03-31T06:22:48 < ReadError> gonna get started next week on it 2016-03-31T06:22:58 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-31T06:23:04 < ohsix> i thought you had one already and that was why you were doing it 2016-03-31T06:23:08 < dongs> wtf is taht? skateboard? 2016-03-31T06:23:12 < Laurenceb_> you're making an electric mountainboard? 2016-03-31T06:23:17 < ohsix> holypro 2016-03-31T06:23:51 < Laurenceb_> looks vulnerable to wheel oscillation 2016-03-31T06:24:01 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ yes 2016-03-31T06:24:03 < Laurenceb_> thats what happens every time I try to ride one of those things 2016-03-31T06:24:14 < Laurenceb_> have you ever gone >30mph on one? 2016-03-31T06:24:16 < ReadError> wheel oscillation? 2016-03-31T06:24:18 < ohsix> cuz you got weak ankles 2016-03-31T06:24:28 < ohsix> fall off more 2016-03-31T06:24:34 < ReadError> shit prolly wasnt setup right 2016-03-31T06:24:36 < ReadError> or you suck 2016-03-31T06:24:37 < Laurenceb_> that suspension design 2016-03-31T06:24:47 < Laurenceb_> I can't countersteer at 15hz 2016-03-31T06:25:00 < ohsix> underdamped 2016-03-31T06:25:04 < Laurenceb_> it was literally buzzing 2016-03-31T06:25:42 < ohsix> heh hm 2016-03-31T06:26:03 < ohsix> dongs: a little wilhelm like thing that was a 9dof datalogger might be kewl 2016-03-31T06:26:24 < ohsix> commercial probes like that are $$$$ and have to run back to a central box that's alsomegabux 2016-03-31T06:27:13 < Laurenceb_> ReadError: how are you going to motorize it? 2016-03-31T06:27:15 < ohsix> ReadError: that looks more expensive than the one you posted the other day 2016-03-31T06:27:27 -!- rene-dev_ [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T06:27:28 < Laurenceb_> R/C motors with direct drive or something? 2016-03-31T06:27:35 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: nice square faces on the wheel mounts 2016-03-31T06:27:38 < ReadError> Laurenceb 2500w motors 2016-03-31T06:28:00 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__71864__Turnigy_Aerodrive_SK3_6374_149kv_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor_AR_Warehouse_.html 2016-03-31T06:28:01 < PeterM> ReadError, SK3? 2016-03-31T06:28:03 < ReadError> 2x of those 2016-03-31T06:28:05 < PeterM> haha 2016-03-31T06:28:07 < PeterM> knewit 2016-03-31T06:28:08 < ohsix> with regen braking you could ride to the mountain, up the mountain and back 2016-03-31T06:28:12 < ReadError> 1:6 belt 2016-03-31T06:28:22 < ohsix> do you have solidworks already 2016-03-31T06:28:26 < Laurenceb_> bloody hell 2016-03-31T06:28:28 < ReadError> yea 2016-03-31T06:28:31 < Laurenceb_> thats going to be fast 2016-03-31T06:28:35 < ReadError> i need to design the mounts 2016-03-31T06:28:38 < ohsix> werdup 2016-03-31T06:28:38 < ReadError> and start cutting 2016-03-31T06:28:57 < ohsix> are the dailygusta image link things in a long form blag of some type 2016-03-31T06:29:31 < ReadError> nah its just smugmug 2016-03-31T06:29:36 < Laurenceb_> is it all going to be sheet metal or is it more complex? 2016-03-31T06:29:44 < ReadError> place i put pics from my phone up 2016-03-31T06:29:51 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ well im using 2 motors 2016-03-31T06:30:05 < ohsix> 4kw is some srs biz 2016-03-31T06:30:17 < ReadError> i got some 1", 0.5" and 0.25" 7075 alum coming 2016-03-31T06:30:18 < ohsix> you could pull a smaller car with that 2016-03-31T06:30:36 < ReadError> http://www.e-toxx.com/ 2016-03-31T06:30:39 -!- mitrax_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T06:30:41 < ReadError> i like this guys style of one 2016-03-31T06:30:45 < Laurenceb_> ReadError: I wonder if SLS nylon parts would work 2016-03-31T06:30:50 < PeterM> alum? are oyu nuts, hsit will fatigue and fuck right off after a year 2016-03-31T06:30:54 < Laurenceb_> its actually non sucky 2016-03-31T06:30:57 < ReadError> http://www.e-toxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/20151108_1433341.jpg 2016-03-31T06:31:01 < Laurenceb_> unlike "3D printing" 2016-03-31T06:31:01 < ohsix> are there esc's with regen braking for this kind of thing 2016-03-31T06:31:12 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: Simon-- on github 2016-03-31T06:31:26 < ReadError> ohsix VESC 2016-03-31T06:31:27 < ohsix> ReadError: nice, that looks kind of lame though 2016-03-31T06:31:36 < Laurenceb_> holy shit that looks overkill 2016-03-31T06:31:39 < ReadError> made for shit like this 2016-03-31T06:31:56 < ReadError> 240A burst and up to 60V 2016-03-31T06:32:04 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-31T06:32:24 < dongs> whitespy motors 2016-03-31T06:32:37 < Laurenceb_> thats nearly 40 hp 2016-03-31T06:32:38 < Laurenceb_> nuts 2016-03-31T06:32:49 -!- rene-dev [~rene-dev@reroo.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-31T06:33:06 < ohsix> http://www.enertionboards.com/diy-electric-skateboard-kits/enertion-dual-motor-mount-uber-plus-kit/ high cash 2016-03-31T06:33:27 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-31T06:33:49 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, that board won't do 40hp for very long, thats like 160w of dissipation in the fets when hard on 2016-03-31T06:33:54 < ohsix> gotta make sure the name is on everything in case people don't notice it on the wheels or the belt or the motor or the truck 2016-03-31T06:34:09 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-31T06:34:16 < ReadError> yea it can do 50A cont. though 2016-03-31T06:34:25 < PeterM> at 40hp you'll have your fets slide off the PCB in under a minute 2016-03-31T06:34:35 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T06:34:43 < ohsix> isn't there a thermal governor 2016-03-31T06:35:11 < PeterM> probably, but then you wont be getting your 40hp, would oyu? 2016-03-31T06:35:40 < ohsix> you only need it to accelerate 2016-03-31T06:35:55 < ohsix> 'it' 2016-03-31T06:36:07 < ohsix> newayz the duty cycle when you are being retarded is going to be lowish 2016-03-31T06:36:51 < ReadError> i want to re-spin VESC though 2016-03-31T06:37:03 < ReadError> doing the fets/power shit on 1 board 2016-03-31T06:37:08 < PeterM> at 50a, its only 7.5w 2016-03-31T06:37:17 < ReadError> and MCU and other stuff on a 2nd 2016-03-31T06:37:48 < ohsix> have you seen ethiopluszerosomething's blag with his rage motor controller 2016-03-31T06:37:52 < ReadError> and use some board-to-board connectors 2016-03-31T06:38:07 < ohsix> can never remember the guys name 2016-03-31T06:38:19 < PeterM> ReadError, yeah, use some http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/IPT020N10N3_Rev1.1.pdf?folderId=db3a304313b8b5a60113cee8763b02d7&fileId=db3a30433e9d5d11013e9e58035b0158 and stick em on MCPCB 2016-03-31T06:38:23 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if you could get away with SLS nylon motor mounts going onto the main axel 2016-03-31T06:38:41 < Laurenceb_> maybe SLS glass/nylon 2016-03-31T06:38:51 < Laurenceb_> so theres less creep 2016-03-31T06:39:08 < dongs> 300A 2016-03-31T06:39:10 < dongs> lol 2016-03-31T06:39:20 < ReadError> ehhh i dont trust SLS 2016-03-31T06:39:21 < Laurenceb_> tensile strength is about 1/3rd that of cheapish aluminium 2016-03-31T06:39:33 < Laurenceb_> SLS >> filament crap 2016-03-31T06:39:43 < ohsix> nm his motor controller things are dc 2016-03-31T06:39:52 < ohsix> he had a thing that had outboard fets 2016-03-31T06:39:55 < ReadError> yea but i dont use 3d printed stuff on anything i plan to keep or use 2016-03-31T06:40:01 < PeterM> or oyu could you know, just 304 stainless and forgetaboutit 2016-03-31T06:40:03 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-03-31T06:40:21 < ohsix> http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/ 2016-03-31T06:40:42 < ReadError> PeterM i dont have a serious enough mill to do that though ;/ 2016-03-31T06:40:49 < Laurenceb_> SLS nylon from an EOS machine isnt too bad 2016-03-31T06:40:51 < PeterM> sure you do 2016-03-31T06:40:55 < Laurenceb_> and cheap 2016-03-31T06:41:38 < ohsix> huh he's doing battlebots 2016-03-31T06:41:45 < dongs> useless 2016-03-31T06:42:13 < ohsix> that's one of the reasons it is interesting 2016-03-31T06:43:03 < Laurenceb_> I'd try SLS nylon/glass clamps going onto the axel from the motors 2016-03-31T06:43:43 < ReadError> i dont have a machine that can do that 2016-03-31T06:44:01 < ReadError> 7075 is pretty strong though 2016-03-31T06:44:15 < PeterM> i'd try machining the sharf off the outrunner and then attachign the sprocket stright to the bell 2016-03-31T06:44:34 < PeterM> shaft off* 2016-03-31T06:44:36 < Laurenceb_> with smart design it should be at least as strong as a simple alu - you can gain a load of strength from good design with flanges and whatnot 2016-03-31T06:44:42 < ReadError> PeterM the SK3 has that option 2016-03-31T06:44:48 < ReadError> just flip it over 2016-03-31T06:44:50 < Laurenceb_> then off the shelf 304 stainless sprokets and stuff 2016-03-31T06:44:56 < Laurenceb_> I cant speeleelldl 2016-03-31T06:45:17 < PeterM> ReadError, then you have a shaft stickin out hte other side 2016-03-31T06:45:25 < ReadError> yea need to find the gears 2016-03-31T06:45:35 < ReadError> hopefully SDS has something 2016-03-31T06:46:04 < PeterM> do you not know anyone with a mil? 2016-03-31T06:46:05 < ohsix> do you have an end mill thing 2016-03-31T06:46:20 < ReadError> PeterM I have a mill 2016-03-31T06:46:23 < ReadError> and router 2016-03-31T06:46:41 < ReadError> but its not a big mill and I dont have coolant 2016-03-31T06:46:54 < Laurenceb_> I found a local company that does nylon/glass at about 50euros per litre with this beast http://www.eos.info/systems_solutions/plastic/systems_equipment/formiga_p_110 2016-03-31T06:47:23 < PeterM> ReadError, you've got weeks of bloggin until your shit comes, jsut slooowww feeeds and speeeds 2016-03-31T06:48:03 < ReadError> i can do alum no prob though 2016-03-31T06:48:31 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatigue_limit 2016-03-31T06:49:48 < ReadError> PeterM the belts should dampen some of that, no? 2016-03-31T06:50:05 < PeterM> Other structural metals such as aluminium and copper, do not have a distinct limit and will eventually fail even from small stress amplitudes. 2016-03-31T06:50:35 < PeterM> especailly an issue for your motor mounts if you make htem from aluminium 2016-03-31T06:50:56 < PeterM> The endurance limit for notched specimens (and thus for many practical design situations) is significantly lower. 2016-03-31T06:53:44 < ohsix> you can also get softer steel then harden/anneal it after machining 2016-03-31T06:55:46 < ohsix> the trucks look like alu though 2016-03-31T06:55:53 < ohsix> if you use a harder metal it'll trash them 2016-03-31T06:57:34 < ReadError> yea 2016-03-31T06:57:39 < ReadError> they are alum with TI shafts 2016-03-31T07:02:55 < ohsix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waspaloy protestant metalz 2016-03-31T07:08:56 < PeterM> ReadError, how do you intend to attach hte sproket to the wheels? 2016-03-31T07:09:11 < ohsix> drill baby drill 2016-03-31T07:09:28 < ReadError> yea basically bolt it to the hub 2016-03-31T07:09:31 < ReadError> though it 2016-03-31T07:09:44 < Laurenceb_> sounds like an opportunity for fail 2016-03-31T07:09:50 < Laurenceb_> maybe grub screw? 2016-03-31T07:09:54 < ohsix> you could get a really wide wheel and mill into it ;D 2016-03-31T07:10:07 < Laurenceb_> oh to the wheelz 2016-03-31T07:10:09 < ohsix> it is an opportunity for fail but there aren't a lot of alternatives 2016-03-31T07:10:16 < Laurenceb_> cant it just be bolted? 2016-03-31T07:10:20 < Laurenceb_> I dunno lol 2016-03-31T07:10:24 < ohsix> just drilling and screwing/bolting it on works 2016-03-31T07:10:27 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-03-31T07:10:30 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-03-31T07:10:52 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N83c8PjmLcw 2016-03-31T07:11:12 < PeterM> im looking at the wheels and the "spokes" look super fuckin flimsy 2016-03-31T07:12:23 < ReadError> http://www.trampaboards.com/black-anodised-superstar-spoke--extruded-t6-aluminum-heat-treated--cnc-precision-milled-p-1004.html# 2016-03-31T07:12:35 < ReadError> i can take these and re-do them basically 2016-03-31T07:12:52 < ReadError> or re-do the inner one 2016-03-31T07:15:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-9-162.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-31T07:16:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T07:20:14 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-31T07:23:32 < ohsix> is th at's what's in the wheels? 2016-03-31T07:23:53 < ohsix> weird 2016-03-31T07:24:02 < ohsix> where can you get tiny pneumatic tires without spokes 2016-03-31T07:24:07 < ohsix> you could put a hub motor in there 2016-03-31T07:26:13 < PeterM> ReadError, i'd get those "spokes" and make a spoke/sprocket/bearing in one 2016-03-31T07:26:28 < ohsix> that's what he meant i think 2016-03-31T07:26:42 < ReadError> PeterM yea, i would basically make a replacement one 2016-03-31T07:26:46 < ReadError> thats more solid 2016-03-31T07:26:58 < ReadError> then i can bolt the gear to it directly 2016-03-31T07:27:03 < ohsix> pump that prig 2016-03-31T07:27:06 < PeterM> dont even do thjat 2016-03-31T07:27:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T07:27:25 < PeterM> machine it as one 2016-03-31T07:27:42 < PeterM> and pressfit the bearing into the back 2016-03-31T07:28:55 < ReadError> PeterM I cant machine the gear 2016-03-31T07:30:04 < PeterM> why 2016-03-31T07:30:34 < ReadError> PeterM too hard, i can buy stock 2016-03-31T07:30:59 < ohsix> that's wat GR8SK0T did 2016-03-31T07:31:03 < ohsix> fit around truck and everything 2016-03-31T07:32:29 < ReadError> cutting a pulley would be a huuuuge waste of time 2016-03-31T07:32:34 < ReadError> and not work very well 2016-03-31T07:33:19 < ohsix> i read that as crafting and was going to make a video game joke 2016-03-31T07:33:34 < ohsix> put the coal in the workbench and use some sticks or something, glad it wasn't cuz it didn't come together 2016-03-31T07:41:07 < ohsix> alibi? couldn't have been murdering cuz you were signing for a package? 2016-03-31T07:41:20 < ReadError> hmm chain might be a lot easier 2016-03-31T07:41:30 < ohsix> chain blows though 2016-03-31T07:41:43 < ReadError> yea belts are better 2016-03-31T07:43:07 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T07:44:50 < PeterM> it depends, chains are huge strongk, and thus cna transfer hueg power, but require retensioining due to wear etc 2016-03-31T07:45:02 < ohsix> not only easier but getting the chains and the sprockets and stuff, they have to have a specific slack 2016-03-31T07:45:06 < ohsix> and ya they wear 2016-03-31T07:45:13 < ReadError> belts are so smooth tho 2016-03-31T07:45:24 < PeterM> chains are too if you tension them right 2016-03-31T07:45:27 < ReadError> but im reading the problem is getting a 1:6 ratio 2016-03-31T07:45:41 < ohsix> why did you pick that ratio 2016-03-31T07:45:53 < ReadError> that seems to be what works well on these 2016-03-31T07:45:56 < ReadError> high torque 2016-03-31T07:46:04 < PeterM> you'd need a pretty fine sproket for a chain to get 1:6 but for belt it would be fine 2016-03-31T07:47:09 < ReadError> https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=63913&p=957087&hilit=MTB+ratio#p957128 2016-03-31T07:47:13 < ReadError> this 2016-03-31T07:47:58 < ReadError> hmm it could work though 2016-03-31T07:48:24 < ReadError> 72teeth HTD 5mm = 113.5mm dia 2016-03-31T07:48:55 < ohsix> matthias wandal has a gear calculator thing for wood gears :p 2016-03-31T07:49:34 < ReadError> https://sdp-si.com/eStore/CenterDistanceDesigner 2016-03-31T07:49:39 < ohsix> when i was thinking about some crap to make i was looking at the tall inline skate type wheels 2016-03-31T07:49:53 < ohsix> since you could put a sprocket on them close to the line of action 2016-03-31T07:50:01 < ReadError> 12:72 give mes 1:6 2016-03-31T07:50:12 < ohsix> center of motion? somewhere close to where the bearing plane on the ground is 2016-03-31T07:50:18 < ohsix> so you don't get weird tangential torque 2016-03-31T07:50:27 < ohsix> at least not a lot 2016-03-31T07:51:27 < ohsix> just from a retail box you get a decent bit of running gear on the razor scooters with the pneumatic wheels 2016-03-31T07:51:31 < ohsix> like 130$ or something 2016-03-31T07:51:55 < ohsix> motor mount looks like you can swap for outrunner without modification and the battery boxes are for sla so they're huge 2016-03-31T07:52:03 < ohsix> brakes/throttle everything affixed already 2016-03-31T07:52:51 < ohsix> the smaller non pneumatic ones have hub wheels that can probably do 500w 2016-03-31T07:53:51 < ohsix> it's only a matter of time before i see a busted one for 15$ anyways :< 2016-03-31T07:53:59 < ReadError> if you have a motor, why need for brake? 2016-03-31T07:54:10 < ohsix> they're dc motors and the brake is on the front 2016-03-31T07:54:15 < ReadError> turn that energy back in to power 2016-03-31T07:54:28 < ohsix> you want a brake for emergencies it's just nice it is there already 2016-03-31T07:54:34 < ohsix> even with regen braking 2016-03-31T07:55:20 < ohsix> put a microswitch on it so the brake works like a camera shutter button 2016-03-31T07:55:36 < ohsix> the throttle is just across the bars so it's easy to modify, then if you pull harder it engages real brake 2016-03-31T08:00:35 < ReadError> on a razor ? 2016-03-31T08:05:29 < ohsix> ya 2016-03-31T08:05:41 < ohsix> er 2016-03-31T08:05:50 < ohsix> no, you'd add the microswitch if you wanted to do it that way 2016-03-31T08:05:59 < ohsix> you could just have part of the throttle range be brake 2016-03-31T08:06:28 < ohsix> the brake on the actual thing is just mechanical 2016-03-31T08:08:18 < ReadError> I need to find a good source of 18650s now 2016-03-31T08:08:27 < ReadError> sucks fasttech is bein a bish 2016-03-31T08:15:17 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Artisan-Non-Stick-Silicone-Baking-Mat/dp/B00629K4YK?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage 2016-03-31T08:15:25 < ReadError> thse work great for soldering/rework 2016-03-31T08:15:33 < ReadError> used them yesterday 2016-03-31T08:16:49 < ohsix> high temp resistance 2016-03-31T08:16:59 < ohsix> same reason they're good for baking 2016-03-31T08:17:02 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-31T08:17:12 < ohsix> floor tiles can explode from thermal stress 2016-03-31T08:17:32 < ohsix> . 2016-03-31T08:17:33 < ReadError> yea high temp 2016-03-31T08:17:35 < ReadError> easy to clean 2016-03-31T08:17:39 < ohsix> fire? 2016-03-31T08:17:41 < ReadError> and stuff stays put 2016-03-31T08:17:41 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-31T08:17:49 < ReadError> since they are kinda tacky 2016-03-31T08:17:52 < ohsix> k you're doing something else 2016-03-31T08:18:47 < ohsix> eh flyback you should check your extension cord/circuit situation 2016-03-31T08:19:00 < ReadError> crt the t-962? 2016-03-31T08:21:58 < ohsix> too much 2016-03-31T08:24:17 < ohsix> do you have something like a tile but only weighs 6 ounces 2016-03-31T08:25:29 < ohsix> ReadError: broad city 2016-03-31T08:25:32 < ReadError> flyback thats whats nice about the silicone joints 2016-03-31T08:25:36 < ReadError> stuff stays put 2016-03-31T08:25:40 < ReadError> ya just DL it now 2016-03-31T08:25:43 < ReadError> will start 2016-03-31T08:25:45 < ohsix> i thought cc was on holiday week :< 2016-03-31T08:26:10 < ohsix> mondays samantha bee hasn't been posted either 2016-03-31T08:26:31 < ReadError> was there a last week tonight this week? 2016-03-31T08:26:39 < ohsix> flyback: they're hard and a real hazard when they break 2016-03-31T08:26:40 < ReadError> the one on usenet was a repost 2016-03-31T08:26:50 < ohsix> ReadError: it was posted with an old version 2016-03-31T08:26:56 < ReadError> ya 2016-03-31T08:29:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-57ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T08:31:19 < PeterM> ReadError, you gon run this thing off 18650s? 2016-03-31T08:31:37 < ReadError> probably eventually 2016-03-31T08:31:46 < ReadError> I have a bunch of 4s 3300 packs though 2016-03-31T08:31:54 < dongs> lol 2016-03-31T08:31:59 < ReadError> so ill series+parallel them 2016-03-31T08:32:05 < ReadError> 12s 6600 2016-03-31T08:32:20 < PeterM> yeah nah 2016-03-31T08:32:31 < ReadError> why 2016-03-31T08:32:37 < PeterM> 40bajillion connectors, what could go wrong 2016-03-31T08:32:44 < ReadError> nah ill rebuild the packs 2016-03-31T08:33:01 < ReadError> into 6s2p each 2016-03-31T08:33:14 < ReadError> since I cant change 12s 2016-03-31T08:34:16 < dongs> stoner. 2016-03-31T08:34:27 < dongs> I'm looking forward to livestream of you blowing up your shack 2016-03-31T08:34:33 < dongs> by poorly handled lipo batts 2016-03-31T08:34:39 < PeterM> srsly, jsut get like 4x 6s 5000mah packs, they're liek $40 or somethign http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__59056__Turnigy_5000mAh_6S_20C_Lipo_Pack_AR_Warehouse_.html 2016-03-31T08:35:07 < dongs> he doesn't wanna waste all those dumb dronepacks he bought 2016-03-31T08:35:21 < PeterM> flip em on RCG for liek $10 each 2016-03-31T08:35:51 < PeterM> who cares if you bought them for $30, while you're not using them they're sitting on the shelf fuckign themselves 2016-03-31T08:36:00 < PeterM> and eventually they'll be worth $0 2016-03-31T08:36:27 < ReadError> I have like 15 of them ;/ 2016-03-31T08:36:56 < PeterM> 15? thats $150 pretty much enough to buiy 4 brand new, 5000mah 6s packs 2016-03-31T08:37:02 < PeterM> perfect 2016-03-31T08:37:02 < ReadError> ill eventually get legit packs tho 2016-03-31T08:37:15 < ReadError> I want to go with the 18650s since they are bit safer though 2016-03-31T08:37:26 < ohsix> the 15 aren't legit? 2016-03-31T08:37:31 < ReadError> less worry about puffing 2016-03-31T08:37:38 < PeterM> get 18650s with pre-spot welded tabs and hten solder them up to bussbars etc? 2016-03-31T08:38:10 < PeterM> if you say you're gonna use the keyclone holders, jsut no 2016-03-31T08:38:16 < ReadError> oh hell no 2016-03-31T08:38:25 < qyx> recently I saw some pictures of a blown ultrafire 18650 cell 2016-03-31T08:38:30 < ReadError> I need to find a nice BMS 2016-03-31T08:38:40 < ohsix> mute plops and blurred v 2016-03-31T08:38:54 < ReadError> qyx yea ive seen some super bootleg ultrafires 2016-03-31T08:39:05 < PeterM> so what are you gonna do with your 18650s? 2016-03-31T08:39:42 < ReadError> hmmmm i should test out these $1.20 ones heh 2016-03-31T08:40:07 < PeterM> yeah, you've got a 4butt charger, jsut do a full charge + discharge and see what oyu get outta them 2016-03-31T08:40:25 < ReadError> ya, powerlabs will graph all the fancy shit too 2016-03-31T08:40:29 < PeterM> discharge at like 1a because that shit aint gonna do 1c you know it 2016-03-31T08:40:35 < qyx> So far, the moral of the story, and the cliche that may ring true is, don't buy batteries for vaping that have the word "fire" in the name. 2016-03-31T08:40:38 < qyx> lol 2016-03-31T08:40:48 < ReadError> yea, I might end up using them for a portable powerbrick 2016-03-31T08:40:57 < ohsix> oh yea 2016-03-31T08:40:58 < ohsix> shit 2016-03-31T08:41:06 < ReadError> i doubt they have the nuts to be used for anything useful besides that 2016-03-31T08:41:07 < dongs> portable vapebrick 2016-03-31T08:41:24 < ohsix> i've been making fun of 'fire' in battery names for an age, most people _will_ be using them to vape :<<< 2016-03-31T08:41:30 < dongs> short 90C batt into a copper bar 2016-03-31T08:41:35 < ohsix> makes total sense now 2016-03-31T08:41:57 < dongs> heat up that juice 2016-03-31T08:42:48 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Private/n-k3BGh/i-jSHgSdh/0/X3/i-jSHgSdh-X3.jpg 2016-03-31T08:42:58 < ReadError> stoned cutting connectors off once 2016-03-31T08:43:08 < ReadError> knicked both wires ooops 2016-03-31T08:43:09 < dongs> i fucking hate those connectors 2016-03-31T08:43:17 < PeterM> ReadError, 0/10 2016-03-31T08:43:22 < ReadError> shrunk the metal 2016-03-31T08:43:29 < ReadError> made a huuuuggeee flash 2016-03-31T08:43:36 < dongs> not surprised 2016-03-31T08:44:29 -!- masa_ is now known as masa 2016-03-31T08:44:54 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-qD6Bn6z/0/X3/CA_06071401250087-X3.jpg 2016-03-31T08:44:59 < ReadError> these packs are pretty legit tho 2016-03-31T08:45:12 < dongs> haha the multirotorsuperscam packs 2016-03-31T08:45:21 < dongs> relabeled kympo or whatever 2016-03-31T08:45:38 < ReadError> ya 2016-03-31T08:45:43 < ReadError> well kypom was legit for a bit 2016-03-31T08:45:45 < dongs> BUT CAN THEY HANDLE SUB-OHMIC VAPING 2016-03-31T08:45:50 < ReadError> then they went complete shit 2016-03-31T08:45:54 < dongs> laff 2016-03-31T08:45:58 < ohsix> subomic 2016-03-31T08:46:09 < dongs> you mean like all RC tarsh 2016-03-31T08:46:12 < dongs> thats just relabel of something else 2016-03-31T08:46:25 < ReadError> they fucked postal on a big order 2016-03-31T08:46:30 < ReadError> the previous one had super legit packs 2016-03-31T08:46:42 < ReadError> the next batch the batts got much smaller and IR way higher 2016-03-31T08:46:57 < ReadError> they tried to say "advancements in nano battery technology" 2016-03-31T08:47:10 < PeterM> i'd try to ssay "returning bro" 2016-03-31T08:47:26 < ReadError> yea except when they are chinese and you do a bank transfer 2016-03-31T08:47:28 < ohsix> er did the nippers get ruined at the same time? 2016-03-31T08:47:32 < ReadError> you dont have many options 2016-03-31T08:48:56 < ohsix> gina pizzalini 2016-03-31T08:49:23 < ReadError> ohsix yea they got ruined when i shorted the wires 2016-03-31T08:49:36 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-31T08:49:47 < ohsix> pro cutting 2016-03-31T08:49:55 < ReadError> crt lapse of concentration 2016-03-31T08:50:00 < ReadError> was the 4th pack I did too 2016-03-31T08:50:12 < ReadError> paying close attention to do 1 wire at a time 2016-03-31T08:50:45 < PeterM> ReadError, withthose connector you just twist teh conenctor head and they come apart, then you ahev 2 seperate conenctors 2016-03-31T08:50:47 < PeterM> less fuck ups 2016-03-31T08:50:49 < ohsix> close calls can be good sometimes 2016-03-31T08:51:17 < ohsix> watts 2016-03-31T08:52:31 < ReadError> PeterM well what I was doing was, cutting 1 wire, soldering it to the new connector and heatshrinking 2016-03-31T08:52:38 < ReadError> to make it hard to short 2016-03-31T08:55:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-57ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-03-31T08:55:37 < ReadError> hmmm new sourcetree looks nice 2016-03-31T08:57:49 < ohsix> was ist das 2016-03-31T08:58:04 < ReadError> its git for tards 2016-03-31T08:58:09 < ReadError> like me 2016-03-31T08:58:33 < ohsix> what have you not been able to do 2016-03-31T08:58:37 < ReadError> https://www.sourcetreeapp.com/ 2016-03-31T08:58:59 < ReadError> what you mean not be able to do? 2016-03-31T08:59:03 < ReadError> its always worked 2016-03-31T08:59:07 < ReadError> they just revamped the UI 2016-03-31T08:59:17 < ohsix> i mean why did you give up on just using git 2016-03-31T09:01:05 < ReadError> i still use git 2016-03-31T09:01:09 < ReadError> i just use the gui 2016-03-31T09:01:18 < ReadError> much easier/faster for me 2016-03-31T09:02:32 < ReadError> makes it really easy to stage chunks and certain files etc 2016-03-31T09:04:47 < ohsix> i love hannibal burress 2016-03-31T09:05:27 < ReadError> ya hes good 2016-03-31T09:06:21 < ohsix> it's like he's not trying 2016-03-31T09:06:41 < ohsix> he could be a genius but he probably isn't; just legit 2016-03-31T09:15:47 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/OpenHab-raspberry/ attn Laurenceb 2016-03-31T09:19:11 < dongs> Note: The sensors on the board are 2016-03-31T09:19:12 < dongs> TSL2561 - Altitude 2016-03-31T09:19:12 < dongs> BMP180 - Temperature and humidity 2016-03-31T09:19:12 < dongs> AM2321 – Light sensor 2016-03-31T09:23:06 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T09:33:45 < dongs> http://www.kcttek.com/uploads/soft/LP3220SAB5F.pdf oo 2016-03-31T09:33:46 < dongs> whats this? 2016-03-31T09:34:01 < dongs> LP3220S looks like another common switcher pinout clone 2016-03-31T09:34:29 < dongs> http://www.lowpowersemi.com/english/index.asp 2016-03-31T09:34:32 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-03-31T09:34:43 < dongs> PeterM: ^ china clones? 2016-03-31T09:35:25 < PeterM> no idea, but i dont see the point of said device 2016-03-31T09:35:45 < ohsix> still loading 2016-03-31T09:35:47 < PeterM> its a 1a capable switcher, max input of 5.5v 2016-03-31T09:38:36 < PeterM> i dun geddit 2016-03-31T09:39:46 < dongs> PeterM: naj ust looking at bom of something cheap and noticed that part on it 2016-03-31T09:39:52 < ohsix> 5k/s 2016-03-31T09:39:56 < ohsix> so pro 2016-03-31T09:40:06 < dongs> pinout compatible w/NCP1521 or whatever shit I use now 2016-03-31T09:40:30 < qyx> I am going to make this usb hub trash compatible 2016-03-31T09:40:36 < ohsix> why haven't you 3d printed dickbutt 2016-03-31T09:40:46 < PeterM> qyx more infos 2016-03-31T09:40:52 < ohsix> i can't believe i didn't mention it when you asked either 2016-03-31T09:40:55 < dongs> trash-compatible usb hub?? 2016-03-31T09:41:03 < dongs> do you compact garbage into the USB_A sockets 2016-03-31T09:41:09 < dongs> jam it in 2016-03-31T09:41:13 < qyx> chink made shit 2016-03-31T09:41:22 < qyx> periodically resets all attached devices 2016-03-31T09:41:26 < dongs> yeah 2016-03-31T09:41:28 < qyx> I can't even read an sd card 2016-03-31T09:41:28 < dongs> take it apart 2016-03-31T09:41:31 < dongs> see if PCB is phenol 2016-03-31T09:41:35 < dongs> single sided 2016-03-31T09:41:37 < qyx> yep 2016-03-31T09:41:41 < qyx> already did this 2016-03-31T09:41:48 < dongs> fuckin toss that shit. 2016-03-31T09:42:12 < PeterM> surely there is open usb hub germs + bom on the innernets somewhere 2016-03-31T09:42:14 < dongs> I got a "USB 2.0" hub from delayextreme 2016-03-31T09:42:19 < PeterM> that isnt garbage 2016-03-31T09:42:28 < dongs> they didnt mention it was USB 2.0 FULLSPEED 2016-03-31T09:42:40 < PeterM> u mean FULL SPED\ 2016-03-31T09:42:51 < dongs> single sided phenol pcb with 0R resistors to jump traces 2016-03-31T09:42:57 < dongs> and some COB for the hub IC 2016-03-31T09:42:59 < dongs> like $2 2016-03-31T09:43:06 < dongs> but it had per-port power switch 2016-03-31T09:43:08 < dongs> which is why I got it 2016-03-31T09:43:40 < qyx> http://imgur.com/a/v6bjC 2016-03-31T09:43:42 < qyx> you can see yourself 2016-03-31T09:43:58 < PeterM> jesus fuckign aids 2016-03-31T09:44:21 < dongs> nice xtal 2016-03-31T09:44:30 < PeterM> the xtal is rpobably jsut as good as rc lol 2016-03-31T09:44:47 < PeterM> 0 decoupling 2016-03-31T09:45:02 < dongs> C1/C2 looks like xtal load caps maybe 2016-03-31T09:45:07 < PeterM> yer 2016-03-31T09:45:12 < ohsix> superpro 2016-03-31T09:45:13 < PeterM> no decou;pling for hub though 2016-03-31T09:45:20 < qyx> I wasn't even able to use my keyboard while testing that full-bridge inverter 2016-03-31T09:45:21 < dongs> i think theres a cap under that blob 2016-03-31T09:45:29 < dongs> on the host cable side 2016-03-31T09:45:37 < qyx> it was just blinking 2016-03-31T09:45:45 < PeterM> urrite 2016-03-31T09:45:55 < PeterM> there is like a 0805 cap, probably 0.1u 2016-03-31T09:45:57 < PeterM> useless 2016-03-31T09:49:06 < qyx> I made a review clearly stating that 2016-03-31T09:49:15 < qyx> it is still posted in the e-shop with that link 2016-03-31T09:49:36 < dongs> heh 2016-03-31T09:50:40 < dongs> is there such thing as pink leds 2016-03-31T09:51:38 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/panasonic-electronic-components/LNJP12X8ARA/LNJP12X8ARACT-ND/2641775 2016-03-31T09:51:41 < dongs> apparently exists 2016-03-31T09:52:42 < dongs> hmm all non-stock 2016-03-31T09:52:45 < dongs> doesnt exist in 0805 2016-03-31T09:52:45 < dongs> wtf 2016-03-31T09:53:17 < PeterM> dongs yeah, pink LEDs are awesome 2016-03-31T09:53:27 < PeterM> i gvot some from dk a while back, 0603 2016-03-31T09:53:34 < dongs> yeah they're both nonstock now 2016-03-31T09:53:35 < PeterM> they are mad real pink 2016-03-31T09:53:42 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/optoelectronics/led-indication-discrete/524729?k=LED+PINK+0603+SMD&pv7=2&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 2016-03-31T09:54:05 < dongs> asking chinagirl 2016-03-31T09:54:08 < dongs> what makes htem pink? 2016-03-31T09:54:44 < ohsix> arsenic 2016-03-31T09:54:48 < PeterM> iirc they are orange wiht pink phosphor or somehting 2016-03-31T09:55:44 < jpa-> http://nannystateindex.org/ wow, finally we win something! 2016-03-31T09:56:44 < dongs> what did you win 2016-03-31T09:56:47 < dongs> #1 in e-cigs? 2016-03-31T09:56:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T09:57:08 < jpa-> most nannystate 2016-03-31T09:57:10 < PeterM> the rohm ones were the ones i got and looked amaze 2016-03-31T09:57:18 < PeterM> so if oyu're asking chinagirl ask for those 2016-03-31T09:58:37 < qyx> looks like I am going to need an inrush current limiter 2016-03-31T09:58:49 < dongs> zerg rush current limiter 2016-03-31T09:59:00 < qyx> those low esr capacitors make good fireworks at 48V 2016-03-31T10:03:37 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-31T10:04:39 < ohsix> 'free' 2016-03-31T10:04:54 < ohsix> they need to rank countries by how free you are to murder people 2016-03-31T10:05:09 < ohsix> otherwise, well, that's just not a free country 2016-03-31T10:05:38 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-31T10:05:43 < ohsix> dongs: http://nannystateindex.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Timbro_logo_gul.jpg 2016-03-31T10:06:13 < dongs> PeterM: thanx, buying reel 2016-03-31T10:06:19 < dongs> she has rohm 2016-03-31T10:06:50 < ohsix> http://timbro.se/en 2016-03-31T10:09:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-03-31T10:10:17 < PeterM> noice 2016-03-31T10:10:56 < ohsix> sotimbro 2016-03-31T10:11:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.246] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T10:14:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T10:18:54 < dongs> huh 2016-03-31T10:19:26 < dongs> this jap circuit review 2016-03-31T10:20:04 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/cwDkt8M.png 2016-03-31T10:20:09 < dongs> is this a ghetto linear regulator? 2016-03-31T10:21:11 < dongs> except without any actual regulation 2016-03-31T10:21:22 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-31T10:21:35 < Sync> yeah dongs 2016-03-31T10:21:49 < dongs> whats the point here then? 2016-03-31T10:23:31 < dongs> you can tell i got this shit sent to me by FAX 2016-03-31T10:24:03 < dongs> hmm seems it cleans ripple pretty great 2016-03-31T10:24:40 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Pp6HCPY.png 2016-03-31T10:25:37 < ohsix> google maps integrated ride sharing junk, prices/delays 2016-03-31T10:26:44 < PeterM> the cap on the base means that as the voltage rises and falls on the input to hte transistor, the transistor turns on/off more, the 2k2 is jsut to stop it going nuts 2016-03-31T10:27:36 < Sync> yeah it probably will clean ripple 2016-03-31T10:31:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-31T10:45:31 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T10:52:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T11:00:47 < ReadError> fusion360 is pretty legit 2016-03-31T11:00:52 < ReadError> for being free 2016-03-31T11:15:09 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T11:26:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-31T11:39:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T11:39:11 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-03-31T11:39:28 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T11:39:42 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-31T11:43:43 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ULJRaI6.jpg 2016-03-31T11:44:49 < zyp> hmm? 2016-03-31T11:45:12 < dongs> pink leds 2016-03-31T11:45:16 < dongs> do you want those on next nfcboard? 2016-03-31T11:45:21 < mitrax_> ahhah 2016-03-31T11:45:24 < zyp> haha 2016-03-31T11:45:39 < zyp> I think I'm good 2016-03-31T11:47:14 < dongs> not as good as you will be with PINK LEDS 2016-03-31T11:47:34 * mitrax_ starts to believe the rumor that dongs makes dildos 2016-03-31T11:47:58 < mitrax_> where else would you put pink leds? 2016-03-31T11:48:01 < PeterM> rumor? 2016-03-31T11:48:07 < PeterM> tru fax 2016-03-31T11:48:52 < mitrax_> is that where the nickname come from? 2016-03-31T11:49:23 < PeterM> no, thats because he is rich vietnamese bussiness man, his irc name is named after his fortune 2016-03-31T11:50:34 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/TYHOKVf.jpg - i wish my phone camera did it justice 2016-03-31T11:51:25 < mitrax_> oh you too have pink leds 2016-03-31T11:51:34 < PeterM> yer mang 2016-03-31T11:51:37 * mitrax_ is jealous 2016-03-31T11:51:55 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T11:52:11 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-31T11:52:11 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T11:56:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-31T11:56:47 < ohsix> blender artist wuuuuut 2016-03-31T11:57:56 < ohsix> in vietnamese it would be 'dang' and pronounced dong :[ 2016-03-31T12:01:28 < dongs> ohsix, getting 22meg/sec consistently writing to 32gig sd. 2016-03-31T12:02:16 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-31T12:02:26 < dongs> (copying 13gb to it) 2016-03-31T12:02:27 < ohsix> heh 2016-03-31T12:02:30 < ohsix> rite 2016-03-31T12:02:30 < dongs> so yeah, not OS cache 2016-03-31T12:02:38 < ohsix> huh? 2016-03-31T12:02:48 < dongs> duno, youwere blogging how shit gets cached 2016-03-31T12:02:54 < ohsix> it does 2016-03-31T12:03:09 < ohsix> it ends up slowing down to an average write rate eventually 2016-03-31T12:03:42 < dongs> well looks pretty stable to me 2016-03-31T12:03:46 < dongs> its moving between 22-24meg. 2016-03-31T12:03:46 < ohsix> you don't seem to have one that can write to flash only at one or two MB/s and rely on the builtin dram for 'speed' to get to class 6 or 10 or whatever 2016-03-31T12:03:50 < dongs> 6 minutes remaining. 2016-03-31T12:03:51 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-31T12:03:58 < ohsix> disable write caching on the card reader 2016-03-31T12:04:04 < dongs> it is 2016-03-31T12:04:12 < dongs> was never on 2016-03-31T12:04:16 < dongs> the 'quick remove' shit is enabled. 2016-03-31T12:04:17 < ohsix> so what are you saying 2016-03-31T12:04:24 < dongs> its working as expected. 2016-03-31T12:04:29 < ohsix> there are cards that don't do that, yea 2016-03-31T12:04:36 < ohsix> and they're mostly sd cards 2016-03-31T12:04:38 < dongs> ic, they probably cost less than $3 tho 2016-03-31T12:05:02 < ohsix> but just about any usb stick you buy at walmart or from corsair is going to be dixxx unless you lay out megabux and they'll still suck 2016-03-31T12:05:08 < dongs> looks like my kikelake mobo + fan landed in jp 2016-03-31T12:05:09 < ohsix> shrug 2016-03-31T12:05:29 < ohsix> send me that one in an envelope and i'll test it, send it back, but i believe you already 2016-03-31T12:05:50 < ohsix> i was talking about what you'd find in a retail store, really, though i didn't mention that at the time 2016-03-31T12:06:35 < mitrax_> yeah most usb stick are shit 2016-03-31T12:07:20 < ohsix> they don't have any ratings like SD cards so everyone is fucking around 2016-03-31T12:08:04 < ohsix> if you get a 16gb+ one it is definitely not going to exist to copy movies to or whatever, it'll be the same as the slow very low end ones with more flash 2016-03-31T12:08:32 < mitrax_> i remember buying a 64GB corsair, that was in 2009 or so, paid like 90 bucks for it iirc and it was so slow i never used it 2016-03-31T12:08:37 < ohsix> it took longer to copy 4 gb to a 16gb sandisk one than to burn 2 dvds the other day when i was giving some stuff to my brother 2016-03-31T12:09:12 < mitrax_> crazy 2016-03-31T12:09:59 < ohsix> yea, but they're also the ones walmart orders like a hundred million of each school year and sell them for 5$/ea 2016-03-31T12:12:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-31T12:13:03 < mitrax_> and when you have a ton of small files it takes forever, even with write caching enabled 2016-03-31T12:13:33 < ohsix> yea 2016-03-31T12:13:40 < ohsix> it sucks no matter what 2016-03-31T12:13:54 < ohsix> but if you're going to school and editing a .doc file that's going to be a few megs its acceptable 2016-03-31T12:13:56 < mitrax_> last time i wanted to do a backup of some of my work stuff it turned out to be much much faster to zip the whole thing (in store mode) then copy it to the usb key than copying files directly 2016-03-31T12:14:14 < ohsix> nice 2016-03-31T12:14:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.54] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T12:15:19 < jpa-> yeah, and made even worse by windows disabling write cache by default 2016-03-31T12:15:29 < mitrax_> which is weird, because with write caching you're supposed to achieve pretty much the same thing 2016-03-31T12:15:32 < ohsix> if it sounded like i was saying they all suck or something, then my bad 2016-03-31T12:15:45 < ohsix> jpa-: no write cache actually makes it better, the file copy dialogue is more true for small files 2016-03-31T12:16:00 < ohsix> jpa-: also when that copy is done using the 'eject' thing in the shell will work immediately 2016-03-31T12:16:18 < mitrax_> no he means it's disabled by default 2016-03-31T12:16:25 < jpa-> well, yeah, if you prefer knowing exactly how slow it is, vs. having it be faster :) 2016-03-31T12:16:27 < ohsix> with write caching on if you stack up like 200 megs of io on the disk and try to eject it, you'll be waiting for it all to be written and there's no ui on progress 2016-03-31T12:16:41 < ohsix> if you weren't going to remove it any time soon or power off, yea 2016-03-31T12:16:48 < ohsix> i'm using them to move junk ;D 2016-03-31T12:17:07 < jpa-> yeah, i guess i'm not that big on progress bars, i know that it will be done eventually :) 2016-03-31T12:17:23 < ohsix> think about a normal punter 2016-03-31T12:17:27 < ohsix> they'll just rip it out of the computer 2016-03-31T12:17:52 < ohsix> for a device with such slow flash there's much larger windows for just making it totally defunct by removing it at an inopportune time 2016-03-31T12:18:05 < ohsix> nevermind file contentz 2016-03-31T12:19:25 < jpa-> yeah, idiots will be idiots 2016-03-31T12:19:32 < jpa-> the flashing led helps some 2016-03-31T12:20:00 < ohsix> well, the usb surprise removal problem is why caching is disabled by default on all of them 2016-03-31T12:20:05 < ohsix> double plus ungood 2016-03-31T12:20:50 < jpa-> if one really wanted to fix it, it shouldn't be hard to implement FAT driver so that it first allocates & copies all the files to the free space, and then just quickly writes the FAT tables as the last step 2016-03-31T12:21:23 < jpa-> just before eject or after idle for N milliseconds 2016-03-31T12:21:39 < jpa-> but disabling caching is just a stupid kludge 2016-03-31T12:21:47 < ohsix> if you can get the ftl to tell you where the free space is you're way ahead of the game 2016-03-31T12:22:12 < jpa-> ? what would you care, i mean the filesystem level free space 2016-03-31T12:22:16 < ohsix> disabling the cache has almost no reprecussions if the drive doesn't suck, the writes complete basically at flash speed 2016-03-31T12:22:39 < ohsix> the worst case is you see the copy dialogue slowly tell you the actual write rate and you find out the disk is garbage 2016-03-31T12:23:00 < jpa-> disabling write cache always means bazillion small writes instead of a few big ones 2016-03-31T12:23:19 < jpa-> the fast usb sticks just reimplement write cache on the chip 2016-03-31T12:23:28 < ohsix> not exactly but that is more likely to happen 2016-03-31T12:24:18 < jpa-> (it would also make sense to have more reasonable cache size limit; e.g. for a stick that writes 20MB/s, no point in having more than some 10-20 MB of cache 2016-03-31T12:25:04 < ohsix> that's hard to do :p 2016-03-31T12:25:18 < ohsix> once it goes to the 'disk cache' it's in the page cache and accounting for it stops from the writing program 2016-03-31T12:25:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-31T12:25:35 < ohsix> page cache has delayed writeback 2016-03-31T12:25:46 < ohsix> linux tries to do direct reclaim on bios though, dunno what windows does 2016-03-31T12:25:54 < jpa-> it's hard to do if you agree to be locked into the traditional abstraction layers 2016-03-31T12:26:01 < jpa-> bios? 2016-03-31T12:26:04 < ohsix> (basically the program is put to sleep in write() if it exceeds its' dirty page cache charge) 2016-03-31T12:26:17 < jpa-> ah, block ios 2016-03-31T12:26:18 < ohsix> block io issue things in the block layer, they're per device 2016-03-31T12:26:44 < ohsix> you don't really benefit from having a page cache if you have all this extra accounting 2016-03-31T12:26:54 < ohsix> you throw io at the page cache so the writing program can move on 2016-03-31T12:27:21 < jpa-> yet the requirements and purpose of cache is different for removable devices 2016-03-31T12:27:26 < ohsix> there's a block scheduler that can do some QoS and stuff too 2016-03-31T12:27:34 < ohsix> ish 2016-03-31T12:27:40 < ohsix> the only problem is really the bad drives 2016-03-31T12:27:53 < ohsix> if you _accept_ a lot of io that can only be done at 100k/s you're fucked for a long time 2016-03-31T12:28:16 < ohsix> those pages can only come out of the page cache that fast, they're taking up space and you can end up having other programs block because of it 2016-03-31T12:30:20 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T12:30:23 < ohsix> even when you're not wasting page cache and already writing it back, you can allocate memory that tries to trim the page cache; that operation will block the program allocating memory 2016-03-31T12:30:43 < ohsix> it's like an IED 2016-03-31T12:31:04 < ohsix> or a minefield, olol; the programs doing a lot of io that touch the page cache are usually the ones you want to keep working too 2016-03-31T12:32:24 < jpa-> why should the OS accept more than e.g. 1 second worth of IO to the cache for removable devices? 2016-03-31T12:32:32 < jpa-> just block on fwrite() 2016-03-31T12:39:33 < ohsix> cuz it isn't accounted for after it hits the page cache 2016-03-31T12:39:51 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T12:40:00 < ohsix> and even if you did just block on write you'd still have the problem with anything that might need to evict pages 2016-03-31T12:40:18 < mitrax_> jpa-: well say you open a super large file in photoshop from your usb key you don't want the application to block when you save 2016-03-31T12:40:26 < ohsix> you make it less likely for io overhead that would only make things slightly nicer for extremely bad, throw-them-out devices 2016-03-31T12:40:40 -!- CRTT [~~@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T12:41:19 < mitrax_> jpa-: i mean there are situation where it makes sense to let the OS cache a lot of data even if the device is slow 2016-03-31T12:41:48 < mitrax_> jpa-: any application that rewrites a whole file when saving or that randomly access a large file from a removable device 2016-03-31T12:42:10 < ohsix> basically in an operating system that uses virtual memory we're relying on tons of things that are just optimistic about allocating memory and shit 2016-03-31T12:42:51 < ohsix> also re: limiting write() how do you handle io that comes from mmap 2016-03-31T12:43:19 < ohsix> you map a page range and can touch/invalidate parts of it, that becomes a dirty page that's handled by some write behind page scanner just like regular io 2016-03-31T12:43:39 < ohsix> but i agree 2016-03-31T12:43:42 < ohsix> also that it sucks 2016-03-31T12:43:55 < ohsix> the only valid solution is to not use those devices 2016-03-31T12:44:00 < mitrax_> :) 2016-03-31T12:44:13 < ohsix> even valid is too strong, the only plausible? the only tenable? 2016-03-31T12:44:57 < mitrax_> rational 2016-03-31T12:45:19 < ohsix> maybe 2016-03-31T12:45:33 < mitrax_> reasonable? 2016-03-31T12:46:04 < ohsix> in the future it might be worth doing when the io devices you work with are several orders of magnitude faster or slower than another 2016-03-31T12:47:01 < ohsix> if you can do like 1200MB/s io to a san and you're doing io to a local disk, and the local disk can dirty the page cache, they'll compete eventually 2016-03-31T12:47:31 < ohsix> it won't lock up the computer for what might be minutes like a usb stick but your san throughput will go way down 2016-03-31T12:49:16 < jpa-> mitrax_: are you sure you don't want it to pause until the file is written? 2016-03-31T12:49:29 < ohsix> users won't put up with it 2016-03-31T12:49:57 < ohsix> photoshop at least has progress bars when stuff starts taking a long time, so you can sort of see that the disk is slow and it's not photoshop 2016-03-31T12:49:59 < jpa-> they do, currently on windows by default 2016-03-31T12:50:13 < jpa-> yes, and that's exactly what should happen with my proposal also 2016-03-31T12:50:29 < ohsix> it does when the write cache is disabled 2016-03-31T12:50:44 < ohsix> there's no obfuscation trip through the page cache, there's direct page reclaim 2016-03-31T12:51:05 < ohsix> if a write() goes to a fs that isn't cached that write does the actual io and will put the calling program to sleep 2016-03-31T12:51:15 < ohsix> ghost crt pumper 2016-03-31T12:51:59 < ohsix> :> 2016-03-31T12:52:09 < ohsix> there was a guy that was spamming freenode 2016-03-31T12:52:18 < ohsix> for like a year i linked his nick to my account and would ghost him 2016-03-31T12:52:29 < ohsix> doubt it 2016-03-31T12:53:06 < ohsix> nope 2016-03-31T12:53:07 < mitrax_> kakimir had a snowmobile accident 2016-03-31T12:53:28 < mitrax_> we're afraid he won't make it 2016-03-31T12:53:29 < dongs> just stoner shit 2016-03-31T12:53:54 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-31T12:54:20 < ohsix> puckman 2016-03-31T12:54:22 < mitrax_> jpa-: if i can avoid it to pause each time i save yes definitely, that can be very annoying, same if the program has an autosave feature 2016-03-31T12:55:33 < ohsix> o ya autosave that would suck 2016-03-31T12:55:37 < ohsix> they usually call fsync too 2016-03-31T12:56:10 < jpa-> mitrax_: yet windows chose different, and it seems to be good enough for them 2016-03-31T12:56:21 < jpa-> pretty much every sane autosave does it on background anyway 2016-03-31T12:56:44 < jpa-> and blocking fwrite() when cache grows large is the sanest way to make progress bars work while allowing cache 2016-03-31T12:57:27 < ohsix> the cache size can be nearly all of your memory 2016-03-31T12:58:01 < ohsix> if you have 32gb of memory and a 32gb usb stick, you can probably stack up 15gb of io really easily, if chrome isn't running 2016-03-31T12:58:11 < mitrax_> jpa-: well most of the time given the amount of ram the os has you won't see the progress bar as saving will be pretty much instant if the drive is the bottleneck, the only case where it matters is when you copy files 2016-03-31T12:58:25 < jpa-> ohsix: but why would you want to, make the OS limit it 2016-03-31T12:58:28 < ohsix> there is a thing on linux that they did, they do limit the number of dirty pages in the page cache 2016-03-31T12:58:49 < jpa-> mitrax_: but why would you want that to happen, make the OS limit the cache size so that progress bars work 2016-03-31T12:58:56 < ohsix> it used to be a percentage of memory (and that was fine when you had 32mb of ram) now after a certain memory size it maxes out 2016-03-31T12:59:03 < jpa-> ohsix: but that is constant limit, not adaptive to the device write speed 2016-03-31T12:59:10 < ohsix> make the OS limit it? that memory isn't being used 2016-03-31T12:59:14 < mitrax_> jpa-: eh i don't, i never said the OS should limit the cache size 2016-03-31T12:59:19 < jpa-> mitrax_: i did 2016-03-31T12:59:37 < jpa-> it makes sense to cache 100 MB for harddisc, but only cache 10-20 MB for a slowish usb stick 2016-03-31T12:59:39 < ohsix> the writeback is 'adaptive' in the sense that it can't write back faster than the device will accept writes, there's nothing any party can do about it 2016-03-31T12:59:41 < mitrax_> jpa-: oh i misread sorry 2016-03-31T13:00:15 < ohsix> if you disable the write cache you do not even pay a large penalty for those devices 2016-03-31T13:00:29 < jpa-> says you, i say that the penalty is very large 2016-03-31T13:00:30 < ohsix> what you could do is take a statistical sample of write rates and automatically disable the cache 2016-03-31T13:00:34 < mitrax_> jpa-: well no... once again if for some reason you open a large file from a slowish usb stick you'd be better off with a non limited cache, for me limiting the cache would only makes sense when you copy 2016-03-31T13:00:38 < ohsix> even for some short term 2016-03-31T13:00:57 < ohsix> the devices are complete garbage 2016-03-31T13:01:01 < ohsix> you should throw them out 2016-03-31T13:01:16 < jpa-> mitrax_: when i save to usb stick, i'd rather see the progress bar than have it save to ram and have no indication when it is done saving to stick 2016-03-31T13:01:30 < ohsix> if you want to avoid wearing out something that is complete garbage, and that you should throw out, due to speculation about how the FTL might handle small writes (hint: you have proof it handles ALL writes badly) 2016-03-31T13:01:41 < ohsix> then you are wasting your time on that device 2016-03-31T13:02:00 < ohsix> it doesn't 'save to ram' 2016-03-31T13:02:05 < ohsix> the page cache also caches reads 2016-03-31T13:02:37 < mitrax_> jpa-: yeah but say you have a 50MB file that is randomly accessed very frequently (db or whatever, for the sake of the argument) limiting the cache would make things very slow 2016-03-31T13:03:46 < jpa-> mitrax_: well, first of all, i only mean limiting the write cache; read cache you can have as much as you want; and if you limit the write cache to e.g. what the device can write in one second, i don't think it would slow typical loads much 2016-03-31T13:04:06 < jpa-> but yeah, makes sense more for removable devices than internal harddiscs, though sometimes excessive write caching can be annoying on those also 2016-03-31T13:04:26 < mitrax_> jpa-: yeah but then again data you read back might be data you've just written 2016-03-31T13:04:37 < zyp> dongs, hmm, I just remembered, last time I got stm32l0 from mouser because it was easier than china 2016-03-31T13:04:41 < zyp> did that change? 2016-03-31T13:04:42 < jpa-> mitrax_: so? what does that change? 2016-03-31T13:04:50 < dongs> zyp... probably didnt 2016-03-31T13:05:10 < zyp> dongs, well, I didn't order stm32l0 now 2016-03-31T13:05:27 < zyp> didn't think about it 2016-03-31T13:05:38 < dongs> :( 2016-03-31T13:05:39 < zyp> and neither did you 2016-03-31T13:05:41 < dongs> which mnodel was it 2016-03-31T13:05:41 < dongs> nope 2016-03-31T13:06:12 < zyp> stm32l052c8 IIRC 2016-03-31T13:07:13 < zyp> heh, I should have thought about it when I talked about the order being so cheap that shipping weren't free, last time the stm32s pushed it over the free shipping limit 2016-03-31T13:07:26 < dongs> anyway yeah, shes out already. 2016-03-31T13:07:36 < mitrax_> jpa-: well if you limited the cache for "written" data and those data are read back by the application soon after then it will perform slower, cause at some point you limit what can be written 2016-03-31T13:09:01 < mitrax_> yeah 2016-03-31T13:09:02 < jpa-> mitrax_: sure, it will not appear like it would be running on a ramdisk 2016-03-31T13:09:26 < jpa-> mitrax_: but not sure why you would want it to appear like a ramdisk (could be configurable of course for special cases) 2016-03-31T13:09:45 < jpa-> normal user wants reasonably fast copy of small files to crappy usb stick, while still having working progress bars 2016-03-31T13:10:48 < jpa-> linux default (cache) gets fast copy, but lacks progress bars; windows default (no cache) gets progress bars but is slow for small files; adaptively limited write cache gets both 2016-03-31T13:11:06 < mitrax_> jpa-: *i* would prefer that for performance reasons, but yeah i guess it's a matter of personal preferences 2016-03-31T13:11:22 < jpa-> yeah, i'm fine with linux default also because i don't care about progress bars 2016-03-31T13:11:38 < jpa-> and ohsix is fine with windows default because he doesn't use anything slow 2016-03-31T13:11:51 < mitrax_> :) 2016-03-31T13:13:40 < mitrax_> i guess one thing that could be usefull is a "hinting" feature, so apps in userland can notify the OS of what they're doing and let the OS decide on caching scenarios 2016-03-31T13:14:42 < mitrax_> ok i didn't know that, i code mostly for windows 2016-03-31T13:14:55 < mitrax_> good to know 2016-03-31T13:15:10 < jpa-> mmap() is a pretty big hint that one will be doing random IO, while fwrite() is a hint that one will do sequential IO 2016-03-31T13:15:18 < mitrax_> yes but that only for memory mapped files 2016-03-31T13:15:37 < jpa-> why would you do random io without mmap? 2016-03-31T13:16:08 < zyp> mmap is more than just random io 2016-03-31T13:22:51 < mitrax_> sounds like WriteFileGather() / ReadFileScatter() on windows 2016-03-31T13:22:59 < Lux> any ideas what would be the best way to flash/update multiple f0 controllers via the bootloader and uart ? 2016-03-31T13:23:01 < Lux> i thought of using one shared uart line with protection resistors and 2 gpios (reset and boot pin) 2016-03-31T13:23:14 < dongs> errr 2016-03-31T13:23:16 < dongs> same firmware? 2016-03-31T13:23:18 < dongs> or diffefent 2016-03-31T13:23:26 < Lux> yeah, same firmware 2016-03-31T13:23:30 < dongs> jsut flash them 2016-03-31T13:23:31 < jpa-> do you even need the TX pin for USART bootloader? 2016-03-31T13:23:33 < dongs> only read back from one. 2016-03-31T13:23:40 < dongs> all at once. 2016-03-31T13:23:40 < jpa-> yeah 2016-03-31T13:23:50 < Lux> so i can just broadcast it to all the rx pins ? 2016-03-31T13:24:02 < jpa-> should work AFAIK 2016-03-31T13:24:14 < dongs> jpa, it works great 2016-03-31T13:24:19 < jpa-> you'll probably want to put CRC check in your firmware itself, so that you don't get crazy field failures 2016-03-31T13:24:19 < dongs> up to 10 boards anyway is max i tested. 2016-03-31T13:24:23 < Lux> cool, that makes life easy :) 2016-03-31T13:24:30 < Lux> i only need it for 4 2016-03-31T13:24:34 < dongs> i gang program all my shit 2016-03-31T13:24:41 < mitrax_> ahaha 2016-03-31T13:25:58 < dongs> jpa, no need 2016-03-31T13:26:03 < dongs> it won't boot if it fails to flash 2016-03-31T13:26:07 < dongs> so just repeat it. 2016-03-31T13:26:20 < jpa-> dongs: except if you get a flipped bit just somewhere 2016-03-31T13:26:37 < Lux> doesn't the rom bootloader protocol allready have crc ? 2016-03-31T13:26:41 < jpa-> low probability, sure, but could cause funny things 2016-03-31T13:26:45 < jpa-> Lux: hmm, does it? 2016-03-31T13:27:15 < Lux> i think i saw something in the docs 2016-03-31T13:27:18 < jpa-> looks like it does 2016-03-31T13:27:24 < jpa-> ok, well forget whatever i said :D 2016-03-31T13:29:19 < Lux> yeah, it does an xor checksum 2016-03-31T13:31:02 < jpa-> (not that built-in firmware CRC check isn't a good idea anyway if you deploy a lot of devices.. it is very annoying to debug an issue that turns out to be bad flash) 2016-03-31T13:33:14 < dongs> crypto sign all the things 2016-03-31T13:33:49 < jpa-> to avoid the cloners, yes! 2016-03-31T13:34:03 < dongs> ya sure, died 2016-03-31T13:34:09 < mitrax_> hex charger drama? 2016-03-31T13:34:17 < dongs> looks like zanoforum still up 2016-03-31T13:34:21 < dongs> http://zanoforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=276 2016-03-31T13:34:23 < dongs> im still banend tho 2016-03-31T13:35:09 < dongs> oh 2016-03-31T13:35:12 < dongs> looks like refunded 2016-03-31T13:35:14 < dongs> shrgu' 2016-03-31T13:35:53 < dongs> zanoforum is dead as fuck 2016-03-31T13:35:54 < dongs> last post feb 24 2016-03-31T13:36:15 < dongs> yes, newest feb24 2016-03-31T13:36:18 < dongs> unless im reading it wrong 2016-03-31T13:38:21 < dongs> url??? 2016-03-31T13:38:40 < dongs> also site is slow as shit 2016-03-31T13:38:56 < dongs> ah 2016-03-31T13:38:59 < dongs> that general discussion 2016-03-31T13:39:01 < dongs> i was looking @ zano 2016-03-31T13:41:22 < dongs> http://www.hellotrade.com/oakbank-technology/ 2016-03-31T13:42:23 < mitrax_> At present we are focusing on tools for Zano and 3D printing. Where the future leads no one knows. 2016-03-31T13:42:26 < mitrax_> ahahaha 2016-03-31T13:43:17 < dongs> ohsix, he designed + 3d dicked it 2016-03-31T13:43:49 < dongs> thats for the battery 2016-03-31T13:43:55 < dongs> to put the battery in. 2016-03-31T13:44:09 < dongs> you arent thikning innovation 2016-03-31T13:44:14 < dongs> yes 2016-03-31T13:45:06 < dongs> i remember 3D cad screenshtos of the shit 2016-03-31T13:45:15 < dongs> so he didnt just take some random walkietalkie charger case. 2016-03-31T13:45:31 -!- CRTT [~~@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T13:45:48 < CRTT> fuck me right in the zano 2016-03-31T13:46:29 < mitrax_> in your zanhole? 2016-03-31T13:46:38 < CRTT> yeah give it a rodger 2016-03-31T13:49:00 < dongs> rite 2016-03-31T13:50:36 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-31T13:51:08 < CRTT> wtf is that niggerbox 2016-03-31T13:51:57 < dongs> failed cashgrab from dumbs 2016-03-31T13:52:13 < dongs> http://www.amazon.com/Charging-Cable-Plug-WLtoys-Battery/dp/B00HMY289S 2016-03-31T13:52:20 < dongs> because this + regular RC charger is 100x better 2016-03-31T13:53:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-31T13:53:30 < dongs> thats not even a charging cable tho 2016-03-31T13:53:42 < dongs> thats just to parallel them all, you plug them into regular RC charger 2016-03-31T13:54:03 < dongs> anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyz 2016-03-31T13:56:14 < dongs> ya thats it 2016-03-31T14:00:27 < Lux> i got one of those 2016-03-31T14:00:51 < Lux> seems a bit more sophisticated than those cx-10 charge lead with just a resistor in parallel 2016-03-31T14:01:08 < Lux> eh i mean series 2016-03-31T14:02:09 < dongs> nah you need hexacharger(tm) 2016-03-31T14:02:10 < dongs> for $50/ea 2016-03-31T14:04:20 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@90-224-54-38-no56.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T14:07:59 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Develop-Microcontroller-STM-programming/ $1100 for maybe 30 mins of my time, should I do it 2016-03-31T14:08:37 < dongs> maybe ohsix wanna do it 2016-03-31T14:08:39 < dongs> since he has STM8 warez 2016-03-31T14:08:52 < dongs> get some ebay moneyz 2016-03-31T14:17:13 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/xTDgEGn.png 2016-03-31T14:17:20 < ReadError> the competition 2016-03-31T14:17:36 < dongs> lol 2016-03-31T14:19:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/threed-modelling/Design-Product-10091886/ 2016-03-31T14:20:36 < qyx> random budget 2016-03-31T14:20:48 < qyx> I would like to have such random budget projects too 2016-03-31T14:22:51 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T14:22:55 < qyx> hm, are those inductor cores color coded? 2016-03-31T14:23:14 < qyx> much iron powder cores seem to be yellow-white 2016-03-31T14:24:10 < dongs> what cores 2016-03-31T14:24:28 < qyx> http://www.ebay.com/itm//351571716003 2016-03-31T14:24:36 < qyx> these for example 2016-03-31T14:24:43 < dongs> cockrings 2016-03-31T14:24:47 < dongs> for small cocks 2016-03-31T14:26:54 < ReadError> ohsix bid on it 2016-03-31T14:26:58 < ReadError> earn a quick $1100 2016-03-31T14:27:20 < ReadError> whats to stop these cacks from not paying you 2016-03-31T14:27:29 < qyx> ok, in short, would they be any good at ~150kHz? 2016-03-31T14:27:44 < dongs> ReadError: just you not delivering i guess 2016-03-31T14:28:05 < ReadError> well i mean 2016-03-31T14:28:09 < ReadError> is there some escrow 2016-03-31T14:28:43 < dongs> donno 2016-03-31T14:28:45 < dongs> people just pay me 2016-03-31T14:28:52 < qyx> crt: meh 2016-03-31T14:29:06 < ReadError> on freelancer? 2016-03-31T14:29:06 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T14:29:12 < ReadError> what projects you done 2016-03-31T14:29:29 < qyx> I meant nah, not meh 2016-03-31T14:29:53 < dongs> some random pcba and about to get a production order on that stuff, should be like 3k-ish 2016-03-31T14:30:07 < dongs> i have ~1k feelancer profitz currently 2016-03-31T14:31:23 < ReadError> damn not bad 2016-03-31T14:31:37 < dongs> also shipped some stuff last week, should get another +500 next monday 2016-03-31T14:33:41 < qyx> whcih coneň 2016-03-31T14:33:44 < qyx> *which one? 2016-03-31T14:47:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-31T15:04:21 < mitrax_> crt: how many exactly? 2016-03-31T15:04:54 < mitrax_> penes 2016-03-31T15:08:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:10:13 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:10:29 -!- jon1012 [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-31T15:10:29 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:15:56 < PeterM> qyxxy http://www.catzco.com/toroids.htm 2016-03-31T15:19:08 < mitrax_> that's like... coil porn 2016-03-31T15:19:42 * mitrax_ bookmarks 2016-03-31T15:25:53 < kakimir> herro o/ 2016-03-31T15:27:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-03-31T15:27:52 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:30:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:31:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:33:28 < upgrdman> anyone know if modern bluetooth earbuds are decent? i want a wireless earbud for music. 2016-03-31T15:33:57 < upgrdman> i guess like a bt cell phone headset thinggy 2016-03-31T15:34:14 < XTL> For music, make sure it's a2dp and not just hf profile 2016-03-31T15:34:34 < XTL> At least some headphones (that hvae mics) should be quite decent 2016-03-31T15:35:04 < XTL> Don't know about buds. 2016-03-31T15:35:11 < upgrdman> k 2016-03-31T15:36:13 < ReadError> someone said the in ear BT 'beats by dre' are pretty nice 2016-03-31T15:37:50 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-20-27.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T15:39:04 < ReadError> https://www.beatsbydre.com/earphones/powerbeats2-wireless/flash-blue/MKQ02.html 2016-03-31T15:39:05 < ReadError> them 2016-03-31T15:42:50 < kakimir> as far as I know there is no high quality wireless sound especially bluetooth 2016-03-31T15:43:49 < upgrdman> 6hr battery... fuck :( that wont even get me threw a day at work. 2016-03-31T15:44:08 < kakimir> you cant power decent shiet from coin size lipo and have musics for a day 2016-03-31T15:44:19 < kakimir> you have neather 2016-03-31T15:44:39 < ReadError> whats a neather 2016-03-31T15:44:50 < kakimir> neather of which 2016-03-31T15:45:06 < upgrdman> kak: well my bt speaker adapters sound ~perfect. but ya, wireless headphones have sucked for as long as i know 2016-03-31T15:45:31 < kakimir> external power? 2016-03-31T15:45:57 < upgrdman> well i wonder about the phone shitz that use those weird aaaa cells 2016-03-31T15:46:13 < upgrdman> ya 2016-03-31T15:46:51 < kakimir> with external power you dont need to worry about consumption 2016-03-31T15:47:04 < upgrdman> true 2016-03-31T15:47:29 < kakimir> and makes good audio quite inexoensive then 2016-03-31T16:05:28 < zyp> dongs, what would you use for interconnecting stacked pcbs? 18mm distance between boards or so, probably somewhere between 10-20 signals 2016-03-31T16:10:27 < zyp> board space is limited, so I'm thinking perhaps a single row 100mil pth header might be the easiest option to fit 2016-03-31T16:20:20 < PeterM> unfortunately thats the method i usually fall abck to 2016-03-31T16:20:29 < PeterM> most mezzanine connecotrs are really short 2016-03-31T16:24:59 < dongs> yeah, 18mm is pretty crap 2016-03-31T16:25:18 < zyp> I'm also considering dual row 50 mil headers, but I don't really need enough signals to justify that 2016-03-31T16:26:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-31T16:26:38 < zyp> I mean, if I had a ton of signals, I'd use 2x25 50mil, since there should be like 900 left over from that time I had to buy 1k :p 2016-03-31T16:26:40 < dongs> zyp, if you are rich, hirose FX23 2016-03-31T16:27:42 < zyp> haha, nah 2016-03-31T16:28:40 < zyp> this is for din enclosure shit, between line voltage board and control board stacked on top of that 2016-03-31T16:29:20 < mitrax_> use a dual row and two pins per signal, for "enhanced reliability" :p 2016-03-31T16:29:29 < zyp> so it'll carry power up, some relay control signals down and SPI or something for energy meter circuit 2016-03-31T16:30:34 < zyp> mitrax_, I could, but it doesn't really seem to have any advantage over simple 100mil headers 2016-03-31T16:30:54 < dongs> put http://www.mixoneic.com/upload/images/img/13/58/57/9.jpg on both ends, then use http://www.connectorfromchina.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/double-row-connector-244x200.jpg between them 2016-03-31T16:31:10 < dongs> cant go wrong!1 2016-03-31T16:31:36 < zyp> haha 2016-03-31T16:31:45 < zyp> that looks like 50mil? 2016-03-31T16:31:52 < dongs> well, i mean just that kinda thing 2016-03-31T16:31:57 < dongs> obv it would be 1.27mm 2016-03-31T16:32:01 < dongs> or whatever 2016-03-31T16:32:09 < zyp> 1.27mm is 50mil 2016-03-31T16:32:12 < dongs> kay 2016-03-31T16:32:21 < dongs> what els would you se it to be then 2016-03-31T16:36:58 -!- pleroma is now known as neuro_sys 2016-03-31T16:37:02 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@212.111.40.93] has quit [Changing host] 2016-03-31T16:37:02 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T16:41:24 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-03-31T16:44:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T16:44:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T16:55:57 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T17:13:07 < jadew> holly crap... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiEMSkVTHmQ 2016-03-31T17:13:44 < jadew> ah, could be april fools lol 2016-03-31T17:15:15 < kakimir> nice HQ 2016-03-31T17:15:22 < jadew> yeah 2016-03-31T17:16:43 < kakimir> is it really empty? 2016-03-31T17:17:03 < jadew> don't know, not sure how much of what he said is true 2016-03-31T17:20:52 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T17:23:17 < PeterM> defs april fools, it is empty though 2016-03-31T17:23:41 < jadew> pitty 2016-03-31T17:25:37 < kakimir> why it's empty= 2016-03-31T17:25:40 < kakimir> economics? 2016-03-31T17:26:08 < dongs> dickstarter startup ran out of cash 2016-03-31T17:26:24 < jadew> kakimir, it's possible the part about the china is true or at least has some truth into it 2016-03-31T17:26:59 < jadew> I remember hearing something about it, but I'm not sure what exactly was outsourced 2016-03-31T17:27:04 < mitrax_> i wonder what's wrong with his face 2016-03-31T17:27:05 < jadew> dongs, did you hear anything? 2016-03-31T17:27:11 < mitrax_> he has a lump on his right cheek 2016-03-31T17:27:23 < PeterM> iirc altium wanted to move their HQ to the US, then it fucked up so they moved to CN (SZ), then to UA, then back to AU 2016-03-31T17:27:45 < PeterM> but by the time they got back to .au thye had too small a team to giv a fuck abotu such a big building 2016-03-31T17:27:50 < dongs> jadew: i didnt actually watch his gay fucking video 2016-03-31T17:27:53 < dongs> fuck eevshitblog 2016-03-31T17:28:06 < jadew> dongs, we were talking about Altium 2016-03-31T17:28:09 < jadew> we know you're a hater 2016-03-31T17:28:19 < dongs> oh that latium hq in australi is empty? 2016-03-31T17:28:21 < dongs> yeah they moved all tochina 2016-03-31T17:28:24 < dongs> and ukraine or osmethign 2016-03-31T17:28:39 < jadew> PeterM, interesting 2016-03-31T17:29:10 < jadew> why did they move so much? taxes? 2016-03-31T17:30:38 < PeterM> nah, jsut to join the cool kids club basically 2016-03-31T17:32:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-03-31T18:05:07 < trepidacious> So is Altium on the way out then? 2016-03-31T18:05:41 < dongs> every kikecad user dreams so 2016-03-31T18:05:42 < dongs> but no 2016-03-31T18:05:51 < dongs> they have a product people actually use 2016-03-31T18:12:48 < PeterM> trepidacious, no 2016-03-31T18:17:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.221] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T18:21:29 < trepidacious> Ah that's ok then, we use it (and kind of hate it but it does the job...) 2016-03-31T18:21:48 < trepidacious> Sounds like the kind of things companies do just before they go out of business though :) 2016-03-31T18:22:39 < dongs> lol theres nothing comparable to altidong 2016-03-31T18:23:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-31T18:24:46 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T18:25:12 < PeterM> trepidacious, nah its mroe of a case of "we have so much money and no idea what to do with it" 2016-03-31T18:25:31 < trepidacious> Nice, well they don't seem to be spending it on making it more reliable :) 2016-03-31T18:26:21 < PeterM> really? 2016-03-31T18:26:28 < PeterM> do oyu keep it up to date? 2016-03-31T18:27:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-03-31T18:29:54 < dongs> i havent had any crashes in 16.x series in a loong time now 2016-03-31T18:30:12 < dongs> nothing like you'd be getting from china-copied SUMMER 2009 2016-03-31T18:32:41 < PeterM> pretty much 2016-03-31T18:33:59 < Sync> hm, is there actually a newer clonered copy? 2016-03-31T18:35:44 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-31T18:35:51 < ReadError> yea 2016-03-31T18:35:54 < PeterM> i think cloneerror uses 16.x.x so that is clearly available for pirating 2016-03-31T18:35:56 < ReadError> its on that rutracker 2016-03-31T18:36:02 < ReadError> ruski site 2016-03-31T18:40:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T18:44:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T18:45:27 < dongs> not only is readcloner a shitty fucking cloner, he doesnt pay for his tools either 2016-03-31T18:45:37 < dongs> worse than a chinaman 2016-03-31T18:47:55 < Sync> > implying chinaman pays for his tools 2016-03-31T18:51:37 < kakimir> remember to sleep dong 2016-03-31T18:52:52 < dongs> sync, eh, some do 2016-03-31T18:53:12 < dongs> i've seen some sites that actually had "we now have licensed version of " in the news section 2016-03-31T18:53:58 < Sync> yeah 2016-03-31T18:55:25 < Thorn> a book about living in China. fascinating. http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far-east/564634-working-pilot-china.html 2016-03-31T18:56:21 < ReadError> dongs why do you keep dropping the C word 2016-03-31T18:56:25 < ReadError> its a lie 2016-03-31T18:57:09 < Laurenceb_> Zaha is dead 2016-03-31T18:57:28 < Laurenceb_> no moar retarded UK architecture 2016-03-31T18:59:27 < Rob235> I found a bug on a vaping store's website that let me get stuff free. I didn't actually think it was going to work but I got 2 things valued at $33 each for free. I want to tell the company so they can fix the bug but I don't know if I should expect thanks or a fraud lawsuit or some shit. Should I send an anonymous email? should I just ignore it? 2016-03-31T18:59:44 < mitrax_> we told you already yesterday 2016-03-31T18:59:51 < Rob235> I wanted more opinions 2016-03-31T19:00:21 < Rob235> feel free to ignore me :) 2016-03-31T19:00:27 < ReadError> its old, inaccurate and unfunny 2016-03-31T19:00:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T19:06:26 < dongs> Rob235: get more vape shit. 2016-03-31T19:06:29 < dongs> and get stoned 2016-03-31T19:06:38 < Rob235> haha i knew that would be your answer 2016-03-31T19:08:08 < Rob235> its a very specific bug, can't just add anything I want for free but can still cause problems 2016-03-31T19:08:19 < ReadError> Rob235 mtbaker? 2016-03-31T19:09:04 < Rob235> nope, its a smaller vape shop I think 2016-03-31T19:11:20 < Rob235> basically I preordered something, paid for it in full, when it was available I got an email to log in and complete the order, I did and got an error because I had fully paid or something. Called em and they said everything was good, package on its way. I logged in and the item was still in my shopping cart with a price of $0.00 and I could change the quantity. I made a small purchase and set the quantity of the free item to 2 and 2016-03-31T19:11:20 < Rob235> a week later I had em in my hands. 2016-03-31T19:11:59 < PaulFertser> Rob235: does that shop have any division in your country? 2016-03-31T19:12:33 < Rob235> yea they are located in my country 2016-03-31T19:13:05 < PaulFertser> Then you'll be safer sending an anonymous mail, I guess. Or do you want some kind of a reward for reporting? 2016-03-31T19:13:37 < Rob235> I'd be good if I could just keep the 2 items and not have to send em back. I don't care about a reward, just don't want to get in trouble and want them to know about it 2016-03-31T19:14:32 < Rob235> i think ill send an anonymous email 2016-03-31T19:16:06 < dongs> im gonna guess shop owner is too dumb/stoned to notice/care anyway 2016-03-31T19:28:45 < Steffann> Also stop vaping 2016-03-31T19:29:09 < Rob235> why 2016-03-31T19:29:34 < Rob235> its better than smoking 2016-03-31T19:29:54 < Steffann> All one need is lead fumes 2016-03-31T19:30:42 < Rob235> I'm just about down to zero nicotine 2016-03-31T19:31:13 < Steffann> Ok ok :) 2016-03-31T19:31:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.18.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T19:32:52 < Rob235> I need a new show to watch... about to finish sons of anarchy. never watched it because I didn't think I'd like it but it is a good show 2016-03-31T19:33:46 < Steffann> Never watched it 2016-03-31T19:34:05 < Steffann> The title, motor gangs.. Meh 2016-03-31T19:34:08 < mitrax_> it sucks 2016-03-31T19:34:24 < Rob235> yea thats what I thought but liked the show 2016-03-31T19:34:33 < Rob235> mitrax_: what show do you recommend? 2016-03-31T19:34:47 < mitrax_> Breaking Bad / Fargo / MrRobot 2016-03-31T19:35:03 < Rob235> seen em all except fargo, maybe i'll give that a shot 2016-03-31T19:35:06 < dongs> lol unfunny american tv garbage 2016-03-31T19:35:21 < Rob235> who is talking about comedies? 2016-03-31T19:35:23 < Steffann> Yes lets all do hentai 2016-03-31T19:35:47 < dongs> something doenst need to be a comedy to be unfunny 2016-03-31T19:36:09 < Steffann> One does need to be Dongs to be grumpy 2016-03-31T19:37:39 < Rob235> I want a new show like the wire 2016-03-31T19:38:27 < mitrax_> Rob235: Better call saul if you saw breaking bad, House of cards 2016-03-31T19:38:43 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-03-31T19:38:47 < mitrax_> Rob235: give fargo a try, it's nice 2016-03-31T19:38:52 < Steffann> Im still not sure i like better call saul 2016-03-31T19:39:04 < Steffann> If i like* 2016-03-31T19:39:15 < Rob235> I'm caught up with better call saul, I just got my gf into house of cards so we just started season 2, I've watched up to season 3, letting her catch up before we watch 4 2016-03-31T19:39:36 < Steffann> So you need more?! 2016-03-31T19:40:11 < Rob235> haha I need a binge show on top of weekly new stuff 2016-03-31T19:40:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T19:40:38 < Steffann> Soon the spring/summer series will start again 2016-03-31T19:41:37 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T19:41:43 < Rob235> yea but I need something that has been out for at least a season or two that I haven't seen. I always have something on in the background when I'm coding or whatever 2016-03-31T19:42:13 < Rob235> so I've seen a lot 2016-03-31T19:42:40 < dongs> anything that's been "out" for "more than a season" is automatically garbage 2016-03-31T19:42:42 < ReadError> Rob235, the knick 2016-03-31T19:42:51 < dongs> only the best TV gets cancelled into the 1st season 2016-03-31T19:44:46 < Rob235> I watched the first season of the knick, good show, didn't realize season 2 was already done 2016-03-31T19:45:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-03-31T19:46:40 < ReadError> trailerpark boys s10 came out this week too 2016-03-31T19:47:27 < Thorn> so my order of 27 jan 2012 (2513.68 2016-03-31T19:47:27 < Thorn> rubles total) would cost me 11179.00 rubles now :/ 2016-03-31T19:48:16 < dongs> are you getting paid 4.4x more? 2016-03-31T19:49:00 < Thorn> good question 2016-03-31T19:51:32 < Thorn> another order from the same store got only 2.2x more expensive though 2016-03-31T19:52:59 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T19:53:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.18.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-31T19:53:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.18.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T19:54:47 < dongs> zyp: so watcha gonna do, get L052s again? 2016-03-31T19:59:16 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-03-31T20:08:31 < zyp> dongs, what's the alternatives? 2016-03-31T20:15:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-03-31T20:28:17 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T20:46:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T20:55:17 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@211.220.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T20:58:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.18.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-31T21:03:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:1cfc:989f:88b5:7ccc] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:04:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:14:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.1.133] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:14:40 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-38-65.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:18:14 -!- nn7 [~nn7@155.31.134.100] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:18:28 < nn7> Woot! Today I attempt to move from AVR to STM32 2016-03-31T21:21:29 < Steffann> not sure if ##stm32 is a step up from #avr ;) 2016-03-31T21:22:01 < nn7> Why do you say that? 2016-03-31T21:22:16 < mitrax_> YEAH LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER RETARD 2016-03-31T21:22:21 < mitrax_> j/k :) welcome 2016-03-31T21:23:06 < Steffann> You'll figure out soon enough nn7 :P 2016-03-31T21:23:14 < Steffann> but i see you are not in #avr so.. 2016-03-31T21:24:23 < nn7> Naa... I've gone in a few times to ask questions but don't typically hang around. 2016-03-31T21:25:44 < lorenzo> haha, people come in here thinking this channel is actually about stm32 2016-03-31T21:25:51 < lorenzo> in fact, it's about stm32, jews and pumping 2016-03-31T21:26:08 < Steffann> and i still have no clue what pumping is 2016-03-31T21:26:20 < BrainDamage> nobody does, no worries 2016-03-31T21:26:34 < lorenzo> it's hitlers' moustache 2016-03-31T21:26:40 < lorenzo> at least that's my interpretation 2016-03-31T21:26:41 < BrainDamage> they just agree that whatever it's here, it's pumping 2016-03-31T21:26:57 < Steffann> oh, ill ask crt again 2016-03-31T21:27:35 < lorenzo> ... meanwhile in #avr 2016-03-31T21:27:36 < lorenzo> Actually, Hitler did a lot of good things. Of course, he is 99.99% remembered for the bad things, that everyone knows about. 2016-03-31T21:28:21 < BrainDamage> that's pretty tame compared to laurenceb's links 2016-03-31T21:31:35 < Laurenceb_> I think we all know what's being "pumped" 2016-03-31T21:33:23 < Laurenceb_> http://hackaday.com/2016/03/31/intel-ups-the-dev-board-ante-with-the-quark-d2000/ 2016-03-31T21:33:30 < Laurenceb_> a truly terrible link from me 2016-03-31T21:33:52 < Laurenceb_> it will make you shake your head in horror 2016-03-31T21:36:07 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T21:37:01 < nn7> Any examples for stm32 for beginners? I keep finding tutorials that reference fancy functions that hide the underlying functionality. 2016-03-31T21:37:25 < nn7> Or just a "welcome to stm32, here is a list of commands equivalet to the AVR" 2016-03-31T21:37:51 < BrainDamage> stm32 unlike avr doesn't have a reference toolchain or library 2016-03-31T21:38:03 < BrainDamage> so it really depends what you use 2016-03-31T21:38:29 < Thorn> wow ds1102e has display persistence 2016-03-31T21:38:42 < nn7> I installed openstm 2016-03-31T21:39:33 < Laurenceb_> yeah but embedded x86 is so much easier 2016-03-31T21:39:35 < Laurenceb_> /troll 2016-03-31T21:40:33 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@211.220.0.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-31T21:42:29 < lorenzo> nn7: get the files from st micro, plenty of examples for the peripherals 2016-03-31T21:42:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:42:43 < lorenzo> and / or board support package if there's something on it 2016-03-31T21:43:18 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@205.34.1.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T21:48:20 < Thorn> nn7: make sure you have these documents first: (1) ARMv6/v7 ARM and/or The Definitive Guide book (2) stm32 family reference manual (3) datasheet for your stm32 (4) schematics/manual for yor dev board 2016-03-31T21:48:47 < nn7> alrighty 2016-03-31T21:49:21 < Thorn> (bonus points for actually reading them) 2016-03-31T21:57:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@205.34.1.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-03-31T22:04:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T22:04:58 < nn7> Anybody want a telescope? 2016-03-31T22:06:50 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0afde2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T22:09:48 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-03-31T22:14:00 < nn7> OK. I finished reading the stm32 family reference manual 2016-03-31T22:15:21 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T22:15:52 < wbraun> O.o 2016-03-31T22:18:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-31T22:21:13 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T22:22:29 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/SGymS5q 2016-03-31T22:24:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T22:36:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2016-03-31T22:38:00 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-03-31T22:38:20 < kakimir> Thorn: check "worst place to be a pilot" 2016-03-31T22:51:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@dslb-188-106-070-129.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-31T22:52:39 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-38-65.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 2016-03-31T22:58:52 < Laurenceb_> Paraded as the “modern man”, this species, despite outwardly possessing male genitalia, exhibits prominent feminine features: high-pitched voices, little to no body hair, low muscle mass, round flabby faces, scrawny limbs, thin necks, wide hips and sometimes even semi-developed breasts 2016-03-31T22:58:54 < Laurenceb_> uh oh 2016-03-31T22:59:38 < Laurenceb_> typical irc user 2016-03-31T23:04:27 < Steffann> you know what because it sounds very familiar? 2016-03-31T23:08:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:1cfc:989f:88b5:7ccc] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-31T23:10:19 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-111-38-65.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:17:09 < Laurenceb_> http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon_DS_BGT24MTR12_en_V3_2.pdf?fileId=db3a304339dcf4b10139df108e75025b 2016-03-31T23:17:13 < Laurenceb_> this looks nice 2016-03-31T23:17:21 < Laurenceb_> for SAR on a small UAV 2016-03-31T23:21:42 < Laurenceb_> dunno how doable 24Ghz is on FR4 2016-03-31T23:22:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.1.133] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-03-31T23:23:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:24:27 -!- Amperture [~Amp@107-207-76-17.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-03-31T23:26:24 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.51] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:26:28 < bvernoux> Laurenceb_, I imagine it is awfull on FR4 ;) 2016-03-31T23:26:39 < bvernoux> but feedback is interesting 2016-03-31T23:27:18 < Laurenceb_> looks like 1.3dB per inch for microstrip 2016-03-31T23:27:21 < Laurenceb_> not fatal 2016-03-31T23:28:02 < bvernoux> yes if path is very short shall be fine 2016-03-31T23:28:15 < bvernoux> anyway their ref design is based on FR4 to 2016-03-31T23:28:35 -!- nn77 [~nn7@155.31.134.100] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:28:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@205.34.1.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:30:28 < bvernoux> Laurenceb_, you are building a radar ? 2016-03-31T23:31:28 < Laurenceb_> not really, just looked like an interesting part 2016-03-31T23:32:15 -!- nn7 [~nn7@155.31.134.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-03-31T23:32:50 < bvernoux> those parts are used in automotive ADAS 2016-03-31T23:33:20 < bvernoux> the best chipset is designed by NXP ;) 2016-03-31T23:33:34 < bvernoux> they are far better than other manufacturer for such things 2016-03-31T23:39:34 < zyp> yeah, my car got a radar and whatnot 2016-03-31T23:42:00 < Sync> I don't like those things 2016-03-31T23:42:44 < zyp> adaptive cruise control is really nice for driving in traffic 2016-03-31T23:43:31 < zyp> it was even one of the features that made me pick the egolf 2016-03-31T23:43:42 < kakimir> better is when everyone don't drive like dicks 2016-03-31T23:44:27 < zyp> uh, if you want to get rid of traffic you have to say «better is when everyone else don't drive at all» 2016-03-31T23:44:34 < kakimir> throttle - brake - throttle - brake 2016-03-31T23:44:52 < zyp> what other option do you have? 2016-03-31T23:45:00 < PaulFertser> Motorbike 2016-03-31T23:45:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@echelon.c-base.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:45:57 < kakimir> drive in funland 2016-03-31T23:46:03 < Sync> yeah the adaptive cruisecontrol is ok-ish 2016-03-31T23:46:05 < Laurenceb_> someone needs to make SAR for dronez 2016-03-31T23:46:10 < kakimir> SAR? 2016-03-31T23:46:14 < Sync> but I don't like the emergency brake assist stuff 2016-03-31T23:46:16 < Sync> it sucks balls 2016-03-31T23:46:31 < Laurenceb_> synthetic aperture radar 2016-03-31T23:47:06 < kakimir> oh 2016-03-31T23:47:11 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:47:21 < Laurenceb_> wow nxp have 77GHz 2016-03-31T23:47:25 < Sync> yeah 2016-03-31T23:47:31 < Laurenceb_> dunno if that is good or bad 2016-03-31T23:47:35 < Laurenceb_> rules out FR4 2016-03-31T23:47:41 < zyp> Sync, idk 2016-03-31T23:47:43 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-31T23:47:48 < bvernoux> Laurenceb_, yes NXP are the most advanced for ADAS 2016-03-31T23:47:56 < bvernoux> 77Ghz rules ;) 2016-03-31T23:48:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-03-31T23:48:08 < zyp> Sync, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it 2016-03-31T23:48:13 < Sync> no 2016-03-31T23:48:18 < Sync> I don't want to have it 2016-03-31T23:48:22 < Sync> it nearly killed me two times 2016-03-31T23:48:28 < zyp> haha 2016-03-31T23:48:34 < zyp> then turn it off? 2016-03-31T23:48:49 < zyp> at least I've got the option to 2016-03-31T23:49:08 < Sync> I don't want to turn off all the crap I don't need when I get in the car 2016-03-31T23:49:29 < zyp> doesn't it persist? 2016-03-31T23:49:51 < Sync> in the rs6 it did not 2016-03-31T23:49:53 < fenugrec> oh great, and the cheapo 3-4$ F103 boards like http://www.aliexpress.com/item//2042643225.html are probably using rebadged GD32F103 parts 2016-03-31T23:50:16 < zyp> hmm, idk, I haven't tried leaving it off 2016-03-31T23:50:26 < zyp> I don't expect it to kill me 2016-03-31T23:51:29 < Sync> well, it happened to me 2 times, I don't trust it anymore 2016-03-31T23:51:37 < zyp> what happened? 2016-03-31T23:51:40 < Sync> both issues were at high speeds in a long left corner 2016-03-31T23:51:50 < Sync> with a car significantly slower in the middle lane 2016-03-31T23:51:57 < zyp> oh, haha 2016-03-31T23:52:45 < kakimir> what you need 77ghz for? 2016-03-31T23:52:50 < kakimir> jezus 2016-03-31T23:53:25 < Sync> the first time I got nearly killed because the BMW behind me obviously did not expect me to brake at that 240kmh and a clear road 2016-03-31T23:53:34 < zyp> so far I've only managed to trigger mine by almost catching up with a car about to leave my lane 2016-03-31T23:53:51 < trepidacious> Sync: Driving on the right hand side? 2016-03-31T23:54:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-03-31T23:54:08 < Sync> and the second time it was in a damp corner when it did the same thing, nearly lost control 2016-03-31T23:54:11 < Sync> no trepidacious 2016-03-31T23:54:21 < zyp> other car starts moving and will be gone by the time I'm there, but the car doesn't trust that and brakes 2016-03-31T23:54:35 < zyp> or warns 2016-03-31T23:55:12 < zyp> oh, last week I learned that when I brake hard, that triggers the seatbelt tensioners :p 2016-03-31T23:55:45 < Sync> yeah, that can fuck off, I am braking when I want and not when the car thinks it needs to 2016-03-31T23:56:05 < trepidacious> I like those seatbelt tensioners that just slowly ratchet in until you can't breathe. I think it was in a Volvo. 2016-03-31T23:56:23 < Sync> yeah the old pendulum ones 2016-03-31T23:56:55 < zyp> I was overtaking a row of cars, realized I couldn't get past them all before the next corner, so I hit the brake to match my speed to the cars I were next to --- Log closed Fri Apr 01 00:00:56 2016