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2016-04-01T00:00:56 < zyp> oh, and another time I were overtaking a row of cars, I made the same realization, and the fucker I just passed decided to refuse letting me back in
2016-04-01T00:01:26 < zyp> so there I were, in the opposing lane, corner coming up, and there's a fucker next to me that's not letting me back in
2016-04-01T00:01:31 < Sync> I really dislike the collision avoidance in older volvos
2016-04-01T00:01:49 < Sync> they don't let you accelerate until the target is gone or you have reached walking speed
2016-04-01T00:01:57 < zyp> heh
2016-04-01T00:02:45 < Sync> which is like wat if it happens to you
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2016-04-01T00:37:56 < kakimir> cucks I found the serial number
2016-04-01T00:43:29 < kakimir> for logs it's offset: 0000ABD8 - 0000ABDD and it's in acsii format
2016-04-01T00:47:26 < kakimir> I wonder if there is some checksum to ruin
2016-04-01T00:48:35 < kakimir> i don't think it would include manipulation of serial number
2016-04-01T00:48:56 < kakimir> because having like individual checksums for every device nana
2016-04-01T00:51:52 < wbraun> GD32F103, STM32f103 counterfet? lol
2016-04-01T00:53:39 < kakimir> http://zeptobars.com/en/read/GD32F103CBT6-mcm-serial-flash-Giga-Devices
2016-04-01T00:53:58 < kakimir> see last textline
2016-04-01T00:54:01 < kakimir> o/
2016-04-01T00:54:05 < Laurenceb_> cuck32
2016-04-01T00:54:34 < kakimir> trigger'd
2016-04-01T00:55:26 < wbraun> its it legal?
2016-04-01T00:55:40 < wbraun> Some website claims it is not authorized by STM32
2016-04-01T00:55:49 < wbraun> but that website talks about arm licence fees
2016-04-01T00:55:55 < kakimir> I think it just "happens to be compatible"
2016-04-01T00:56:07 < kakimir> also "happens to follow naming scheme"
2016-04-01T00:57:08 < wbraun> so thats “legal”
2016-04-01T00:57:19 < wbraun> or legal enough where they bother to pay arm licence fees
2016-04-01T00:58:19 < kakimir> at least it's not provided by st licenced distributors to say
2016-04-01T00:58:46 < kakimir> where to buy that anyways?
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2016-04-01T01:11:27 < zyp> fucking finally
2016-04-01T01:11:37 < zyp> oh, march 12
2016-04-01T01:11:39 < zyp> I missed it
2016-04-01T01:13:45 < zyp> thanks
2016-04-01T01:43:06 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY
2016-04-01T01:46:18 < mitrax_> ahahaha
2016-04-01T01:46:27 < kakimir> os bicycle inner tube butyl?
2016-04-01T01:46:29 < kakimir> is
2016-04-01T01:52:02 < kakimir> is "shoe repair glue" any good?
2016-04-01T01:52:30 < mitrax_> kakimir try ##glue-experts
2016-04-01T01:53:44 < kakimir> ty mate
2016-04-01T01:54:16 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-01T01:54:23 < mitrax_> ahahaha
2016-04-01T01:54:26 < kakimir> didn't see that one comming :D
2016-04-01T01:54:30 < mitrax_> * mitrax_ changes topic to 'FUCK YOU KAKIMIR'
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2016-04-01T01:54:53 < mitrax_> :p
2016-04-01T01:55:49 < mitrax_> kakimir: is that for your snowmobile seat still?
2016-04-01T01:58:40 < kakimir> sure
2016-04-01T01:58:54 < kakimir> I like to you know.. think things thru
2016-04-01T01:59:41 < kakimir> I think I first bind it with CA
2016-04-01T01:59:49 < kakimir> then I use rubber cement
2016-04-01T02:00:01 < kakimir> and throw some butyl at it
2016-04-01T02:00:16 < kakimir> meaning bicycle inner tube
2016-04-01T02:09:29 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/S8dcXMl.jpg
2016-04-01T02:10:41 < kakimir> when btw is the epic election?
2016-04-01T02:10:49 < kakimir> do you support trump Laurenceb_ ?
2016-04-01T02:11:06 < Sync> he already voted for him
2016-04-01T02:11:52 < kakimir> you voted already Sync ?
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2016-04-01T02:23:11 < Laurenceb_> I am trump
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2016-04-01T02:24:26 < kakimir> I don't buy that
2016-04-01T02:31:52 < kakimir> how did trump get where he is now?
2016-04-01T02:32:34 < kakimir> he doesn't feel like having the muscle to build an empire
2016-04-01T02:32:44 < Laurenceb_> I am become trump, the destroyer of america
2016-04-01T02:33:31 < kakimir> you make him do crazy things with shake of your wand?
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2016-04-01T02:35:45 < kakimir> he has been pumping his precidency for like 2 decades
2016-04-01T02:36:11 < kakimir> or even more
2016-04-01T02:36:51 < kakimir> or who has been
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2016-04-01T02:51:49 < Thorn> deal effective april fools day, 2016
2016-04-01T02:52:10 < aandrew> oh yeah it's that time of the year again
2016-04-01T02:52:17 < aandrew> it's "day to stay the fuck off the internet" day
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2016-04-01T02:52:55 < aandrew> ohsix: you kidding me?
2016-04-01T02:53:18 < aandrew> it's a religious day for every fucking neckbeard who thinks they have a half a sense of humour
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2016-04-01T03:19:59 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/l2UScRu.jpg?1
2016-04-01T03:39:58 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/NMddw5K
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2016-04-01T03:59:07 < dongs> zyp, none, so just order today and i'll be here friday
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2016-04-01T04:17:55 < kakimir> http://abiogenisis.deviantart.com/art/The-Lord-and-the-Colonel-422794976
2016-04-01T04:25:27 < kakimir> http://abiogenisis.deviantart.com/art/Contact-523746143
2016-04-01T04:26:58 < kakimir> crash course pop science format
2016-04-01T04:28:09 < kakimir> is a*
2016-04-01T04:33:15 < kakimir> you racist
2016-04-01T04:35:48 < kakimir> raccist!
2016-04-01T04:38:31 < kakimir> secret color
2016-04-01T04:38:44 < kakimir> TBD
2016-04-01T04:40:49 < Laurenceb_> this guy is a god
2016-04-01T04:40:51 < Laurenceb_> http://redlum.xohp.pagesperso-orange.fr/laser/modeanalysis.html#summary
2016-04-01T04:41:26 < Laurenceb_> I'm tempted to make a FWCW LIDAR
2016-04-01T04:41:34 < Laurenceb_> *FMCW
2016-04-01T04:46:21 < Laurenceb_> apart from the labview
2016-04-01T04:52:31 < Laurenceb_> http://hololaser.kwaoo.me/laser/pics/IMG_0479s.jpg
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2016-04-01T04:57:16 < ReadError> pew pew
2016-04-01T04:57:35 < Laurenceb_> http://www.horiba.com/fileadmin/uploads/Scientific/Documents/Fluorescence/nanoled_brochure.pdf
2016-04-01T04:57:40 < Laurenceb_> lul millenium dome
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2016-04-01T05:26:07 < Laurenceb_> random question
2016-04-01T05:26:17 < Laurenceb_> say I have some c on a PC and I allocate
2016-04-01T05:26:22 < Laurenceb_> then read all the ram
2016-04-01T05:26:34 < Laurenceb_> whats to stop that ram being full of secrets?
2016-04-01T05:26:41 < Laurenceb_> from previous application?
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2016-04-01T05:30:35 < Laurenceb_> this guy is a massive trawl https://twitter.com/MatthewDoyle31?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
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2016-04-01T05:50:49 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/0FfqzhX.jpg
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2016-04-01T05:57:26 < ReadError> i dont get it
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2016-04-01T06:01:57 < ReadError> omg omg omg
2016-04-01T06:01:58 < ReadError> https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit
2016-04-01T06:02:09 < ReadError> LADYADA PLAYS EAGLE
2016-04-01T06:02:14 < ReadError> attn dongs
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2016-04-01T06:04:02 < ReadError> this is like major wank/beatoff material for dongs
2016-04-01T06:04:07 < ReadError> i guess you wouldnt understand
2016-04-01T06:04:19 < ReadError> hes into all of those things
2016-04-01T06:04:23 < ReadError> and when you combine them
2016-04-01T06:04:28 < ReadError> it reaches critical wank
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2016-04-01T07:02:47 < englishman> it says POLCE, stoners
2016-04-01T07:04:29 < PeterM> wot
2016-04-01T07:06:23 < englishman> PeterM: my pops is OK, he ran a quad into a barbed wire fence. possibly while chasing off a roo with a knife
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2016-04-01T07:06:37 < PeterM> hahaha
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2016-04-01T07:06:53 < englishman> what a dumbass
2016-04-01T07:07:15 < PeterM> he have a bit to drink or..?
2016-04-01T07:08:07 < englishman> who knows
2016-04-01T07:08:47 < englishman> bit too much fostahs
2016-04-01T07:09:16 < PeterM> no such thing
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2016-04-01T07:10:10 < englishman> maybe bundy
2016-04-01T07:10:13 < englishman> bundy n coke
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2016-04-01T07:20:27 < PeterM> do many people here not use cash anymore?
2016-04-01T07:20:44 < PeterM> if you're one of those conspiracy dipshits, please feel free to fuck right off before speaking
2016-04-01T07:27:42 < emeb_mac> currency is so 20th century
2016-04-01T07:27:54 < emeb_mac> we only use dunning-krugerands
2016-04-01T07:29:25 < englishman> only reason i have cash is for the milkman, cuz his lte pos is spotty in the countryside
2016-04-01T07:29:53 < emeb_mac> so bucolic
2016-04-01T07:30:29 < PeterM> 0/10
2016-04-01T07:31:53 < englishman> dunning-krugerrands lol
2016-04-01T07:33:19 < PeterM> i dont use much cash, mainly just electronic forms of payment
2016-04-01T07:33:27 < PeterM> cash jsut isnt practical anymore
2016-04-01T07:34:03 < emeb_mac> always carry some, but rarely use it
2016-04-01T07:34:17 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-01T07:35:25 < emeb_mac> I once took $400 worth of coins to a coin sorter at the bank
2016-04-01T07:35:34 < PeterM> i havent carried any for a long time, such that over the christmas holidays i withdrew some cash spent a small amount and then completely forgot about it
2016-04-01T07:35:41 < emeb_mac> stood there feeding them in for about 1/2 hour
2016-04-01T07:36:07 < emeb_mac> filled up the internal hoppers and they had to swap them out.
2016-04-01T07:36:12 < PeterM> lol
2016-04-01T07:37:11 < englishman> itd be easier to carry cash if there were no denominations less than $1
2016-04-01T07:37:36 < englishman> but its already obsolete
2016-04-01T07:37:38 < PeterM> these days, less than $5
2016-04-01T07:37:51 < englishman> aus^
2016-04-01T07:38:21 < englishman> makes sense tho
2016-04-01T07:38:24 < PeterM> http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=AUD&to=CAD&view=1M
2016-04-01T07:38:25 < englishman> fufu latte is $5
2016-04-01T07:38:28 < englishman> just put down $5
2016-04-01T07:38:34 < englishman> no reason for any decimals
2016-04-01T07:38:37 < emeb_mac> but but taxes!
2016-04-01T07:39:13 < englishman> fufu latte + fufu tax = $5
2016-04-01T07:40:51 < emeb_mac> anyone done anything with those Lattice iCE40 Ultra parts?
2016-04-01T07:41:25 < upgrdman> with pc fans, the 3 wire ones are just vdd+gnd+rpm reading, and the 4 wire ones also have a wire of setting the RPM right?
2016-04-01T07:41:37 < emeb_mac> the 48-pin QFN looks doable with normal processes
2016-04-01T07:41:50 < emeb_mac> only costs $6 in small qty
2016-04-01T07:42:12 < emeb_mac> ordered a few from Mouser for grins
2016-04-01T07:42:30 < PeterM> upgrdman, yeah, Vin, GND, RPM (1 p[ulse per cycle), PWM in
2016-04-01T07:42:41 < upgrdman> cool
2016-04-01T07:42:51 < emeb_mac> heh - fans, cool
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2016-04-01T07:42:56 < emeb_mac> ISWYDT
2016-04-01T07:42:58 < PeterM> iirc they expect 38khz pwm~
2016-04-01T07:43:11 < upgrdman> is there a name for the four wire fans, other than "four wire" ? i need some 24v fans
2016-04-01T07:43:24 < PeterM> emeb_mac, is it 420 there or something?
2016-04-01T07:43:42 < emeb_mac> PeterM: uhhh... yeah.
2016-04-01T07:43:45 < PeterM> upgrdman, they dont come i n24v, they're part of the ATX spec iirc
2016-04-01T07:43:57 < emeb_mac> actually it's absinthe-o'clock
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2016-04-01T07:45:10 < upgrdman> PeterM, well ya but surely they make 24v version of industrial use?
2016-04-01T07:45:26 < PeterM> there are lots of 24v fans, not many that follow the ATX spec with PWM and RPM etc
2016-04-01T07:46:17 < upgrdman> i plan to read and write rpm via an fpga, i dont care if they meet atx spec
2016-04-01T07:46:28 < upgrdman> i just need fans with the same connector that 4wire atx fans use
2016-04-01T07:52:14 < upgrdman> ya i need cheap chinese fans
2016-04-01T07:52:20 < upgrdman> literally, from china
2016-04-01T07:52:23 < upgrdman> im in china atm
2016-04-01T07:53:00 < upgrdman> no ghetto rigging
2016-04-01T07:53:04 < upgrdman> this is for production
2016-04-01T07:53:37 < upgrdman> wtf tho, im on aliexpress and these fans are more expensive than shitz i can buy in the usa
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2016-04-01T08:20:19 < englishman> tonights news, elon musk dickstarts iCar with 15" touchscreen and zero car-related specs probably making it invalid even for dickstarter
2016-04-01T08:24:34 < englishman> a $35k wind turbine will save me way more money than a $35k golfcart
2016-04-01T08:24:43 < englishman> maybe even 100x
2016-04-01T08:35:16 < PeterM> upgrdman, jsut get mornal 24v fan, and pwm it, fuck it
2016-04-01T08:35:26 < PeterM> just pwm it above the audible range
2016-04-01T08:35:30 < PeterM> like 30khz
2016-04-01T08:35:35 < PeterM> 40khz
2016-04-01T08:36:01 < upgrdman> writing code for a PCB that's already done
2016-04-01T08:36:10 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-01T08:36:13 < PeterM> urfucked
2016-04-01T08:36:15 < upgrdman> ya :/
2016-04-01T08:37:06 < PeterM> fuck it, the fan connector is 0.1" iirc, jsut make a 4pin daughter board
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2016-04-01T08:37:34 < PeterM> like "yeah, nah, doesnt work, heres the fix *glasses on* deal with it"
2016-04-01T08:38:17 < upgrdman> heh
2016-04-01T09:05:08 < jadew> heh
2016-04-01T09:05:21 < jadew> you mean the fact that it's a stupid idea is not enough?
2016-04-01T09:06:14 < jadew> "As my bio suggests, I am not an accomplished programmer, but programming follows very understandable conventions which can be employed, such as Strings, Characters, Variables and Constants. I can never memorize an entire language, but I can be accurate."
2016-04-01T09:06:48 < jadew> a guy who doesn't understand programming wants to revolutionize it
2016-04-01T09:06:49 < jadew> great.
2016-04-01T09:07:41 < jadew> ah, I didn't watch it
2016-04-01T09:07:45 < jadew> just read the text
2016-04-01T09:07:51 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21iUUe-W8L4
2016-04-01T09:11:06 < jadew> oh, that kickstarter video is 18 minutes...
2016-04-01T09:13:34 < jadew> I did some bad math when I was little and for a couple of hours I thought I stumbled upon something amazing
2016-04-01T09:13:42 < jadew> I thought I managed to compress 8 bits into 7
2016-04-01T09:14:11 < jadew> good thing there was no kickstarter back then
2016-04-01T09:14:20 < jadew> else I would have made an ass of myself on an international scale
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2016-04-01T09:17:25 < jadew> I use the Nokia app
2016-04-01T09:17:33 < jadew> it only works with offline maps
2016-04-01T09:17:49 < jadew> and it's much better than anything else on android
2016-04-01T09:18:03 < jadew> Here maps is called
2016-04-01T09:18:30 < jadew> I don't really understand why they released it on android tho
2016-04-01T09:18:40 < jadew> it sounds like a seriously bad move
2016-04-01T09:18:49 < jadew> considering it was a big selling point for nokia phones
2016-04-01T09:19:07 < jadew> they have 0 to gain from it
2016-04-01T09:19:27 < jadew> you don't have to register or do anything
2016-04-01T09:22:19 < jpa-> jadew: didn't nokia release here maps for android only in 2014, after selling the phones off in 2013?
2016-04-01T09:22:34 < jadew> jpa-, ah, didn't know they sold their phones
2016-04-01T09:22:39 < jadew> yeah, it's rather new on android
2016-04-01T09:22:49 < jadew> who did they sell them to?
2016-04-01T09:22:56 < jpa-> microsoft.. you missed that? :D
2016-04-01T09:22:59 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-01T09:23:05 < jadew> I thought they had a partnership
2016-04-01T09:23:22 < jpa-> they did, and then they sold when they saw that lumia was not going anywhere
2016-04-01T09:23:57 < jadew> jpa-, it was probably a good move
2016-04-01T09:24:04 < jadew> but I wonder why they didn't adopt android
2016-04-01T09:24:25 < jpa-> yeah.. in retrospect they would probably have done fine as an android phone maker
2016-04-01T09:24:42 < jadew> ohsix, they were dead because of the shitty OS
2016-04-01T09:24:51 < jadew> they always made good phones
2016-04-01T09:24:59 < jadew> if only they went Android...
2016-04-01T09:25:06 < jadew> Lumia was a good phone
2016-04-01T09:25:38 < jadew> ohsix, it's their symbian crap which drove them off the cliff
2016-04-01T09:25:47 < jpa-> on the other hand, at the point when it became obvious that android would be the major platform, it was already better idea to just get rid of the phones
2016-04-01T09:25:57 < jpa-> symbian was fine for its time
2016-04-01T09:26:06 < jadew> ohsix, I had the lumia, it was a great phone
2016-04-01T09:26:48 < jadew> jpa-, it was ok back then, but even then, windows phones were still better
2016-04-01T09:26:59 < jadew> because they were much easier to program
2016-04-01T09:27:36 < jadew> ohsix, it does, but symbian was competing with windows 6
2016-04-01T09:27:48 < jadew> windows 8 was a (late) response to android
2016-04-01T09:27:57 < jadew> different era
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2016-04-01T09:28:00 < jpa-> jadew: on the other hand, symbian phones worked, windows phones crashed :)
2016-04-01T09:28:18 < jadew> jpa-, true, but it was all about development in my view
2016-04-01T09:28:28 < jadew> there were more windows developers than symbian ones
2016-04-01T09:28:39 < jadew> and that's because programming for windows CE is about the same as for win32
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2016-04-01T09:29:09 < jadew> I guess they always were on the losing side when it came to the OS
2016-04-01T09:29:23 < jadew> ohsix, I don't think so, not stuff that mattered anyway
2016-04-01T09:32:04 < jpa-> it was quite a jump from deeply embedded simple phone operating systems to the smart phone beasts we use today.. pretty similar to how microsoft bet on "computers will get faster, we can pack in features now" in 80s-90s
2016-04-01T09:32:25 < jpa-> whereas e.g. symbian was clearly designed to be very lightweight, at the cost of being harder to program for
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2016-04-01T09:35:44 < jadew> I wonder if MS will become relevant in the mobile industry again
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2016-04-01T09:42:33 < jadew> what do you think about metro?
2016-04-01T09:43:14 < jadew> I don't think I like the tiles that much
2016-04-01T09:43:48 < jadew> looks futuristic, but somehow icons feel better to me
2016-04-01T09:52:10 < c10ud^> on msys2, cmake depends on rtmpdump-git
2016-04-01T09:52:11 < c10ud^> wow
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2016-04-01T10:01:23 < jadew> ohsix, I was afraid of that too, but I think it has already happened
2016-04-01T10:01:42 < jadew> everyone still using a regular PC will continue doing so
2016-04-01T10:01:46 < jadew> because they need it
2016-04-01T10:01:59 < jadew> for everything else they use tablets and phones
2016-04-01T10:04:16 < jpa-> and even if mobile tech will drive future tech investments, it will only mean more battery lifetime and lower heat load for PCs
2016-04-01T10:04:52 < jadew> yeah, components could get a bit more expensive tho
2016-04-01T10:04:59 < jadew> but I don't think it will be by much
2016-04-01T10:05:52 < jpa-> currently phone processors are quite cheap compared to the performance; but could be that there will be fewer PC part manufacturers as the market shrinks
2016-04-01T10:06:08 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-01T10:06:21 < jpa-> only big risk is if programmers get their act together and there is no longer incentive to make faster processors and bigger memories.. but i'm not afraid of that :P
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2016-04-01T10:18:43 < zyp> dongs, hmm, ok
2016-04-01T10:31:32 < ReadError> dongs must be off recovering from the wank session with ladyada + eagle streaming
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2016-04-01T12:35:58 < timemob> how many of you faggots ordered model 3
2016-04-01T12:37:12 < jpa-> pink led dildo model 3?
2016-04-01T12:37:15 < jpa-> or the crappy car?
2016-04-01T12:37:49 < mitrax_> crapberry i guess
2016-04-01T12:37:55 < timemob> crappy car
2016-04-01T12:38:16 < jpa-> didn't buy that one, no
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2016-04-01T12:42:43 < timemob> 350km range, ya right
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2016-04-01T12:48:46 < PeterM> how big is the battery in kWh?
2016-04-01T12:49:40 < timemob> nobody knows
2016-04-01T12:49:44 < zyp> probably >= 60kWh
2016-04-01T12:50:10 < PeterM> yeah estimates say 65kWh
2016-04-01T12:50:31 < zyp> which makes 350km reasonable
2016-04-01T12:50:42 < zyp> model s already gets more than that
2016-04-01T12:50:55 < PeterM> thats probably pretty good money, $35k or whatever fir 65kWh almsot makes buyign hte car soley for the battery worth it
2016-04-01T12:51:06 < Sync> yeah
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2016-04-01T12:52:34 < timemob> lol
2016-04-01T12:52:44 < timemob> battery and pic16 BMS
2016-04-01T12:54:06 < Sync> but the driveline must be pretty shitty if it takes 6s to 60mph
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2016-04-01T14:38:11 < trepidacious> Shame it looks a bit... douche-y
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2016-04-01T15:18:18 < englishman> 0% chance of 60kWh for $35k come on
2016-04-01T15:18:35 < englishman> That's more than 3x other mfgs
2016-04-01T15:18:57 < zyp> no.
2016-04-01T15:19:47 < englishman> ??
2016-04-01T15:19:58 < englishman> I3, $42k, 22kWH
2016-04-01T15:20:37 < zyp> Chevrolet Bolt, $37.5, 60kWh IIRC
2016-04-01T15:20:48 < zyp> 37.5k*
2016-04-01T15:20:50 < BrainDamage> what's the stoage volume and weight on your car out of curiosity?
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2016-04-01T15:21:30 < zyp> weight is like 1500kg, not sure what the number for storage volume is
2016-04-01T15:22:05 < englishman> Hmm, that is neat, they have the advantage their dickstarter has 2 years to deliver
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2016-04-01T15:24:39 < zyp> i3 is not a fair comparison, it has a fairly high price compared to the battery capacity
2016-04-01T15:26:38 < zyp> I guess 30kWh leaf or kia soul would be the cars with the largest battery capacity relative to price of the cars available on the market today
2016-04-01T15:27:11 < dongs> sup dongs
2016-04-01T15:27:12 < PeterM> whats a leaf worth?
2016-04-01T15:27:25 < PeterM> jsut bloggin
2016-04-01T15:27:26 < PeterM> you
2016-04-01T15:27:28 < PeterM> ?
2016-04-01T15:27:46 < zyp> idk about price in the US, I mostly only hear about norwegian prices
2016-04-01T15:27:57 < zyp> and I'm not keeping too much track of cars I won't buy anyway
2016-04-01T15:28:17 < dongs> lookin for a DVB-S/S2 tuner with RF level measurement register
2016-04-01T15:28:28 < dongs> i thought at least one that i've used before will do it but noo
2016-04-01T15:29:24 < dongs> STB6100 is probably full of NDA aids
2016-04-01T15:29:55 < dongs> Key Features
2016-04-01T15:29:58 < dongs> * Powered by RF Magic
2016-04-01T15:31:06 < zyp> heh
2016-04-01T15:31:42 < englishman> Leaf, 24/30kWh, $30k
2016-04-01T15:32:21 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2016-04-01T15:32:36 < Laurenceb_> I should start a CNG car business already
2016-04-01T15:35:06 < englishman> $35k wind turbine will generate 60-70MWh/yr saving me $3600-4200/yr for ~20 years
2016-04-01T15:36:05 < englishman> What's e-car range at -30C?
2016-04-01T15:36:28 < zyp> dunno, it's never -30C here
2016-04-01T15:36:57 < BrainDamage> won't the battery pack warm itself up once the car is started?
2016-04-01T15:37:24 < zyp> depends on the car, not all of them have active temperature regulation
2016-04-01T15:37:30 < jpa-> it will warm itself up even before starting, usually
2016-04-01T15:37:31 < englishman> There's a bunch of teslas and leafs and stuff here so it can't be that bad
2016-04-01T15:37:33 < zyp> tesla has, mine does not
2016-04-01T15:38:09 < zyp> battery will self-heat due to internal resistance during charging and use though
2016-04-01T15:38:40 < BrainDamage> yeah, with self heat howrever it'll be time dependent
2016-04-01T15:39:00 < zyp> and the car can time charging so it completes right before scheduled departure
2016-04-01T15:39:00 < BrainDamage> a series of short trips will be hurt more since it allows cooling vs a single long trip
2016-04-01T15:39:22 < zyp> yeah, that goes for interior heating too
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2016-04-01T15:42:10 < Laurenceb_> https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8942233&cid=51820761
2016-04-01T15:44:14 < dongs> http://www.rfmagic.com/STB6100documentation.asp wat
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2016-04-01T15:46:48 < Sync> o0
2016-04-01T15:49:43 < zyp> dongs, ok, ordered the stm32s
2016-04-01T15:53:13 < Laurenceb_> http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/apple-introduces-their-answer-to-the-raspberry-pi/
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2016-04-01T15:56:10 < zyp> could have been kinda neat if it were real
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2016-04-01T15:57:12 < lorenzo> nah, apple is stupid but not so stupid to get into IoT
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2016-04-01T16:05:30 < dongs> dick-a-day
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2016-04-01T16:07:19 < lorenzo> http://embeddedgurus.com/stack-overflow/2011/02/efficient-c-tip-13-use-the-modulus-operator-with-caution/
2016-04-01T16:09:47 < zyp> uh, first paragraph already sounds pretty dumb
2016-04-01T16:10:03 < zyp> "In other words the modulus operator is functionally equivalent to three operations."
2016-04-01T16:10:09 < zyp> that's very hardware dependent
2016-04-01T16:10:33 < kakimir> hahhah
2016-04-01T16:10:47 < kakimir> I bought the apple raspberry totally
2016-04-01T16:10:54 < lorenzo> zyp: I'm curious how he got 27k cycles on msp430, that seems way too high
2016-04-01T16:11:06 < kakimir> because that company tries to desperatelly be any relevance in year 2016
2016-04-01T16:11:09 < zyp> for instance on x86, as far as I know, division and modulus is the same instruction, returning the result of the division in one register and the remainter in another
2016-04-01T16:11:15 < lorenzo> yep
2016-04-01T16:12:00 < zyp> so that time division/modulus would in total be three operations on x86
2016-04-01T16:12:20 < zyp> platforms that doesn't even have hardware divider is a whole another thing
2016-04-01T16:16:21 < zyp> I wonder if a simple subtraction loop couldn't be faster on platforms without hardware divide
2016-04-01T16:18:20 < zyp> subtract days until there's less than a day left, count each subtraction, repeat for hours and minutes, this leaves you with seconds
2016-04-01T16:19:21 < zyp> that's max 59 iterations for minutes, max 23 for hours, and one for each day
2016-04-01T16:20:00 < zyp> at least for a low number of days, this should be a fairly fast solution
2016-04-01T16:26:32 < zyp> or even faster by shifting the subtracted value, I guess
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2016-04-01T16:51:33 < jpa-> zyp: doesn't "functionally equivalent" mean that it is equivalent in result, not necessary equivalent in implementation? :)
2016-04-01T16:52:37 < jpa-> the next sentence of course is then a non sequitur
2016-04-01T16:53:47 < zyp> it doesn't make any more sense if you are pedantic
2016-04-01T16:55:30 < zyp> he's saying that the operator is functionally equivalent to three operations
2016-04-01T16:56:06 < zyp> which is of course a true claim, because the operator could be functionally independent to any number of operations as long as you select them right
2016-04-01T16:56:17 < jpa-> heh, true
2016-04-01T16:56:21 < zyp> s/independent/equivalent/
2016-04-01T16:58:32 < zyp> what he's essentially saying is that "modulo can be written as a division, a multiplication and a subtraction, and therefore it's as expensive as those three operations"
2016-04-01T17:00:37 < jpa-> yeah; no need for it to be more expensive than division itself, and most platforms are smart enough to combine it if they don't have fast multiply
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2016-04-01T20:14:43 < englishman> whats the easiest way to swap halfword endianness, on a portion of an array
2016-04-01T20:23:17 < kakimir> anyone plan to buy excess of cortex debug leads?
2016-04-01T20:23:21 < kakimir> those little shiet
2016-04-01T20:24:02 < Laurenceb> I'm about to remove some
2016-04-01T20:24:10 < Laurenceb> from sp1ml eval boards :P
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2016-04-01T20:25:01 < englishman> in c?
2016-04-01T20:25:08 < englishman> oh k
2016-04-01T20:25:33 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pcs-1-27mm-Pitch-2x5-Pin-10-Pin-10-Wire-IDC-Flat-Ribbon-Cable-Length-20CM-/171518266443 these
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2016-04-01T20:37:20 < kisielk> the instruction set has REV and REV16 instructions
2016-04-01T20:37:51 < kakimir> Laurenceb: I had a cuck dream
2016-04-01T20:37:55 < kakimir> last nite
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2016-04-01T20:38:10 < kakimir> strange woman used me as sex toy
2016-04-01T20:38:18 < kakimir> then left me in her home
2016-04-01T20:38:44 < kakimir> while got to bar to meet some real men
2016-04-01T20:39:07 < kakimir> can you interpret this for me
2016-04-01T20:39:08 < kakimir> ?
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2016-04-01T20:42:03 < kakimir> I didn't get to please her friends
2016-04-01T20:42:08 < kakimir> before they left
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2016-04-01T20:48:37 < ReadError> yes, lies
2016-04-01T20:50:04 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: answer to your random question from last night: most operating systems reinitialize pages freed by a process to 0 or some specific bit pattern before they can be assigned to another process, only the kernel and drivers can allocate "dirty" pages, windows does that since NT3.1 iirc (Win9x/ME didn't) and linux does as well, C2/CC compliancy requires that
2016-04-01T20:51:34 < BrainDamage> it'd be a horrible security design if it wasn't
2016-04-01T20:51:42 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: so no, you can't retrieve secret stuff from previous application in userland
2016-04-01T20:51:46 < mitrax_> yup
2016-04-01T20:53:05 < BrainDamage> which is also why cold boot attacks are a thing, reduce current leak in the memory cells enough and you can conserve secret key long enough until you swap os or computer
2016-04-01T20:54:23 < Laurenceb> I see
2016-04-01T20:55:05 < Laurenceb> http://www.pornhub.com/
2016-04-01T20:55:07 < Laurenceb> SFW
2016-04-01T20:55:43 < mitrax_> ahahah
2016-04-01T20:55:58 < mitrax_> SFW until you click somewhere :p
2016-04-01T21:00:43 < ReadError> i need a spring loaded pot
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2016-04-02T00:36:59 < Tectu> does anyone have a link to the game controller interface thingy from zyp?
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2016-04-02T00:39:45 < karlp> Tectu: http://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/
2016-04-02T00:40:01 < Tectu> karlp, thanks!
2016-04-02T00:40:10 < Tectu> karlp, do you happen to know whether he has some sort of online storee?
2016-04-02T00:40:17 < Tectu> karlp, or a place where once can find information about the hardware that he sells
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2016-04-02T01:42:19 < Sync> hand
2016-04-02T01:48:54 < mitrax_> hand? that rings a bell
2016-04-02T01:49:02 < mitrax_> i am penis, hi
2016-04-02T01:54:20 < mitrax_> well... we meant to tell you but...
2016-04-02T01:54:23 < mitrax_> there's been an accident
2016-04-02T01:55:41 < mitrax_> unfortunately no
2016-04-02T01:55:45 < mitrax_> but your zebra is
2016-04-02T01:57:45 < kakimir> http://termite.apcdn.com/full/43382.png
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2016-04-02T02:00:53 < kakimir> are you anticipating my death already?
2016-04-02T02:02:44 < kakimir> you are not propably first person doing it
2016-04-02T02:05:03 < mitrax_> kakimir: nah just teasing
2016-04-02T02:05:36 < mitrax_> i've just found the meanest variation of your nickname
2016-04-02T02:05:44 < mitrax_> not sure if it has been done already
2016-04-02T02:05:57 < kakimir> crt: send me money so I can order parts
2016-04-02T02:06:10 < mitrax_> *corkymir*
2016-04-02T02:06:12 < kakimir> ! O/
2016-04-02T02:06:21 < kakimir> begmir
2016-04-02T02:07:49 < kakimir> I knew it - crt is my man o/
2016-04-02T02:08:21 < kakimir> like.. 100
2016-04-02T02:08:39 < kakimir> usd eur whatever
2016-04-02T02:09:12 < kakimir> pcb and some parts
2016-04-02T02:09:38 < mitrax_> ohsix: yeah well Laurenceb was asking if you could get access to the content of memory released by other processes, i was just answering that. Regarding how that's done, on linux iirc pages are mapped as copy on write of a page that contains zero or something, and that gets copied to the new page when you write to it
2016-04-02T02:09:45 < kakimir> 4layer
2016-04-02T02:10:27 < kakimir> actually it need to be more for mouser minimum order
2016-04-02T02:10:43 < kakimir> well you get some kind of board for 60usd
2016-04-02T02:10:52 < kakimir> under 10cm x 10cm
2016-04-02T02:10:55 < kakimir> just fine
2016-04-02T02:11:02 < mitrax_> ohsix: on windows though there's a thread in the kernel that zero page that have been released
2016-04-02T02:11:21 < kakimir> sure
2016-04-02T02:11:44 < kakimir> nothing else?
2016-04-02T02:11:49 < mitrax_> ohsix: hold on
2016-04-02T02:12:16 < kakimir> you use it as breakout or such?
2016-04-02T02:12:16 < mitrax_> there was an article by russinovich
2016-04-02T02:12:27 < kakimir> and blink led on the board?
2016-04-02T02:12:29 < mitrax_> oh there it is
2016-04-02T02:12:29 < mitrax_> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/tims/2010/10/29/pdc10-mysteries-of-windows-memory-management-revealed-part-two/
2016-04-02T02:13:09 < zyp> crt, no, I think you need a cortex-a for that
2016-04-02T02:13:14 < zyp> preferably ARMv8
2016-04-02T02:13:33 < kakimir> crt: I don't think you get fitting one
2016-04-02T02:13:42 < kakimir> it's made rfor 107
2016-04-02T02:13:53 < kakimir> 64pin one
2016-04-02T02:13:57 < kakimir> with ethernet
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2016-04-02T02:17:19 < mitrax_> yeah
2016-04-02T02:18:38 < mitrax_> but afaik it's the same on linux isn't it? (disk cache that uses unused physical memory)
2016-04-02T02:20:21 < zyp> unused memory is wasted memory
2016-04-02T02:20:39 < zyp> using spare memory for disk cache is better than not using it for anything
2016-04-02T02:20:46 < mitrax_> definitely
2016-04-02T02:21:03 < karlp> zyp: tectu wants to buy some arcin shitz
2016-04-02T02:21:18 < zyp> yeah, he messaged me
2016-04-02T02:26:29 < karlp> ohsix: a bunch of the _same_ squahsfs filesystmes?
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2016-04-02T02:38:26 < kakimir> is there such serial port viewer for lunix that shows pin states
2016-04-02T02:38:27 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-02T02:38:54 < kakimir> kind of tile going green when line is high
2016-04-02T02:39:03 < kakimir> like in pro - realterm
2016-04-02T03:01:20 < kakimir> http://www.der-hammer.info/terminal/
2016-04-02T03:05:01 < kakimir> looks even mor pro
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2016-04-02T03:18:16 < kakimir> looks gut alternativ fur windows too
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2016-04-02T03:40:03 < kakimir> crt: when you find cool peeps please tell
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2016-04-02T04:27:58 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__103234__quanum_selfie_drone_stick.html
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2016-04-02T05:21:53 < Laurenceb_> looks like 1st april
2016-04-02T05:23:20 < ReadError> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1EMU7KpXXXXaPaXXXq6xXFXXXB/Indivdually-Wrapped-Latex-Free-Rubber-font-b-Dam-b-font-for-Teeth-Whitening-and-font-b.jpg
2016-04-02T05:23:25 < ReadError> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1XG0zIFXXXXcOaXXXq6xXFXXXB/50pcs-font-b-Dental-b-font-Disposable-font-b-Rubber-b-font-font-b-Dam-b.jpg
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2016-04-02T06:06:25 < ReadError> http://i.snag.gy/4SSiH.jpg and you wonder why people get viruses/malware
2016-04-02T06:10:43 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiJyali3rlk&feature=youtu.be
2016-04-02T06:10:45 < ReadError> wow
2016-04-02T06:10:46 < ReadError> murica
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2016-04-02T06:49:11 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-02T06:49:37 < ReadError> wat the what is that
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2016-04-02T06:50:52 < ReadError> dedotaded wam?
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2016-04-02T06:52:53 < ReadError> oh god
2016-04-02T06:53:16 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-02T06:53:20 < ReadError> i seen this before
2016-04-02T06:55:20 < ReadError> does he have his name in his hair?
2016-04-02T06:55:22 < ReadError> like a headband
2016-04-02T06:55:23 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-02T06:55:29 < ReadError> on a stick
2016-04-02T06:55:48 < ReadError> lol
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2016-04-02T06:57:03 < ReadError> think that was the 1st ep i watched
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2016-04-02T07:20:51 < ReadError> yodawg, http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-VWzxgd5/0/X3/CA_04021600192744-X3.jpg
2016-04-02T07:22:55 < ReadError> i guess if you dont use the small motors its hard to get a sense of size
2016-04-02T07:23:00 < ReadError> but fucking huge
2016-04-02T07:26:49 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-gj4jfDD/0/X3/CA_04021600250952-X3.jpg
2016-04-02T07:28:00 < ReadError> the small one will do about 1kg of thrust
2016-04-02T07:29:55 < ReadError> 500w
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2016-04-02T09:33:42 < ReadError> recovering from the twitch stream
2016-04-02T09:33:55 < ReadError> ladyada plays eagle, LIVEBLOGGED
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2016-04-02T09:52:15 < upgrdman> no chatz? :(
2016-04-02T09:56:18 < PeterM> nah, no chats
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2016-04-02T11:04:03 < PeterM> upgrdman, did you find your elusive fan?
2016-04-02T11:04:38 < upgrdman> well i asked one of my coworkers to find them
2016-04-02T11:04:44 < upgrdman> so i'll probably get some random shit
2016-04-02T11:04:50 < upgrdman> but fuck it, i tried
2016-04-02T11:05:26 < upgrdman> problem is we need to source it from .cn and i dont speak or write chinese
2016-04-02T11:05:46 < upgrdman> but my coworkers do
2016-04-02T11:05:57 < upgrdman> but they are very inexperienced with electronics
2016-04-02T11:07:11 < PeterM> is this the reason the boards were designed before you looked for a part?
2016-04-02T11:07:29 < upgrdman> kind of
2016-04-02T11:07:41 < PeterM> nice.
2016-04-02T11:08:05 < jpa-> maybe you can put 12V fan and escape before the smoke
2016-04-02T11:08:19 < upgrdman> more because theyve been trying to develop a product for 4 or 5 years, and i joined the company 1 year ago as an intern. and it wasnt unlike like 8 months ago that they realized how good i am and promoted me
2016-04-02T11:08:34 < upgrdman> *until like 8...
2016-04-02T11:09:02 < upgrdman> on the plus side, i get to play with 2 fpga's + 1 mcu on the board
2016-04-02T11:09:57 < PeterM> ehh, jsut get a 24v fan and run it at fullspeed all the time and ignore pwm/rpm
2016-04-02T11:10:09 < PeterM> fuckeeet
2016-04-02T11:11:21 < upgrdman> so that wont meet requirements
2016-04-02T11:12:15 < dongs> sup blogs
2016-04-02T11:13:00 < upgrdman> on the plus side, i get a 3 day weekend, sine monday is a holiday in cn
2016-04-02T11:13:29 < upgrdman> first day of communist spring or something like that
2016-04-02T11:13:53 < dongs> o yeah
2016-04-02T11:13:59 < dongs> chinagirl was bloggin from bed today
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2016-04-02T11:24:17 < dongs> bbl
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2016-04-02T11:36:04 < XTL> That's next month here
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2016-04-02T11:38:35 < upgrdman_> so the new stlink have built in uart right? anyone know if that firmware will work on those $4 clone stlinks from ebay? the little gumstick-sized stlinks
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2016-04-02T11:53:11 < jpa-> upgrdman_: stlinkv2.1 on nucleo boards has usart atleast, maybe you can compare the schematics?
2016-04-02T11:53:25 < upgrdman_> hmm k
2016-04-02T11:53:52 < upgrdman_> so is header on the nucleo >6pins?
2016-04-02T11:54:15 < jpa-> no, but they have a separate 2-pin header next to it
2016-04-02T11:54:22 < jpa-> with rx/tx and no ground :D
2016-04-02T11:54:28 < upgrdman_> ah
2016-04-02T11:57:34 < upgrdman_> any idea if the v2.1 enumerates as two usb devices, or how would that work?
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2016-04-02T11:58:35 < jpa-> upgrdman_: it enumerates as composite device
2016-04-02T11:58:52 < jpa-> usb mass storage (copy .bin mbed-style); normal st-link; usb usart
2016-04-02T11:59:05 < upgrdman_> k
2016-04-02T11:59:35 < upgrdman_> so if you use it usb ass storage, no debug? lol
2016-04-02T11:59:56 < jpa-> well if you use mbed, you probably debug with printf's ;)
2016-04-02T12:00:04 < upgrdman_> :)
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2016-04-02T12:10:27 < PaulFertser> upgrdman_: just fyi, it's known that stlink clones that are using stm32f101 have RST miswired.
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2016-04-02T12:11:36 < PaulFertser> stlink-v2-1 endpoint numbers are a bit different, not fully equivalent to stlink-v2, but the protocol is the same.
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2016-04-02T14:01:43 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/3kSBEh0.jpg
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2016-04-02T14:12:59 < PeterM> fukken nothin
2016-04-02T14:16:10 < Steffann> World no longer spinning around?
2016-04-02T14:24:15 < karlp> upgrdman: the usart firmware on the stlink 2.1's is ratshit
2016-04-02T14:24:24 < karlp> I've had all sorts of reliability problems with it
2016-04-02T14:37:46 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-02T14:37:51 < ReadError> gotta unplug and replug
2016-04-02T14:38:00 < ReadError> real pain in the dick
2016-04-02T14:39:08 < karlp> I just stopped using it, far too unreliable to try using in any sort of development environment.
2016-04-02T14:39:26 < karlp> and because it's part of the composite device, unplugging/repluggin kills your debug session too
2016-04-02T14:39:30 < karlp> cp210x dongle
2016-04-02T14:44:08 < ReadError> PeterM see my beast http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-gj4jfDD/0/X3/CA_04021600250952-X3.jpg
2016-04-02T14:44:38 < PeterM> its nto *that big*
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2016-04-02T14:45:02 < PeterM> ive use a few c80100s before
2016-04-02T14:45:14 < ReadError> whatsthat
2016-04-02T14:45:53 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-VWzxgd5/0/X3/CA_04021600192744-X3.jpg
2016-04-02T14:45:55 < PeterM> google it
2016-04-02T14:46:01 < ReadError> i guess im used to these lil shits
2016-04-02T14:46:24 < PeterM> yeah, i was big into 1/5 rc trucks
2016-04-02T14:46:25 < ReadError> 7000wats da,m
2016-04-02T14:47:14 < PeterM> at that low KV the gearing was retarded though
2016-04-02T14:50:05 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN8S_l3w2LQ
2016-04-02T14:50:12 < ReadError> haha damn now i wanna do one of those
2016-04-02T14:50:13 < upgrdman> karlp, hmm ok, bummer
2016-04-02T14:51:02 < karlp> upgrdman: maybe they'll upgrade the firmware, but *shrugs*
2016-04-02T14:52:09 < upgrdman> oh well, this is a good excise to expense report a 13 port usb hub. my 7 port hub is full, hegh
2016-04-02T14:53:11 < PeterM> ReadError, they're pretty cheap considering
2016-04-02T14:53:59 < upgrdman> peterm, baja5?
2016-04-02T14:54:29 < PeterM> nah fuck those peice of shit
2016-04-02T14:54:38 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-02T14:56:27 < karlp> I neeed a new hub too, still have this 7 port genesys shit causing troubles
2016-04-02T14:56:34 < karlp> will it enumerate, will it not? fuck it
2016-04-02T14:57:08 < upgrdman> 7port 8ball
2016-04-02T14:57:19 < karlp> right now 4 ports have come up as usb2 hs, and 3 ports have come up as usb2 fs.
2016-04-02T14:57:24 < karlp> fucking awesome quality :)
2016-04-02T14:57:29 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-02T14:58:15 < karlp> http://false.ekta.is/2015/06/terminus-tech-7-port-usb-2-high-speed-hub-teardown/
2016-04-02T14:59:24 < ReadError> PeterM cant find any place that still sells em
2016-04-02T15:04:30 < PeterM> doesnt hobbyking sell em anymore?
2016-04-02T15:04:59 < upgrdman> anyone use an ide for verilog other than the shit ones from fpga vendors
2016-04-02T15:06:16 < ReadError> PeterM nope
2016-04-02T15:06:20 < ReadError> discontinued by mfg
2016-04-02T15:07:01 < PeterM> you can probably fine them on ali
2016-04-02T15:07:38 < ReadError> http://lunacycle.com/motors-and-esc/c80-100-kv130-high-power-brushless-rc-motor/
2016-04-02T15:07:43 < ReadError> new version apparently
2016-04-02T15:23:14 < PeterM> ReadError, if you are considering used a C80100/C80110 unless it explicitly states it doesnt need extra cooling ,you should consider fitting a fan to the shaft aswell as your sprocket, as most of these motors are designed to be run wiht big props infront of them
2016-04-02T15:23:30 < PeterM> honestly, the same with with the SK3s but people seem to ignore it
2016-04-02T15:23:52 < ReadError> I noticed there is some kinda impeller inside the sk3
2016-04-02T15:23:58 < ReadError> to move air, not sure how effective
2016-04-02T15:24:59 < PeterM> probabvly not very, BUT better than nothing
2016-04-02T15:25:56 < Steffann> youre going to vote for him uh ohsix?
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2016-04-02T16:07:18 < kakimir> usb2 hub?
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2016-04-02T16:30:43 < upgrdman> me? usb3
2016-04-02T16:39:12 < englishman> Tesla model 3 dickstarter up to $232m
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2016-04-02T17:39:22 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/B3MZqT3
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2016-04-02T17:54:02 < Laurenceb_> found kakimir https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nmmjr/iama_man_who_had_a_sexual_relationship_with_his/c3a9uqg
2016-04-02T17:54:44 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/YGEfFXs.jpg too much info
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2016-04-02T18:16:00 < englishman> way to link a 4 year old reddit post Laurenceb_
2016-04-02T18:16:06 < englishman> thers already been a porno made of that story
2016-04-02T18:17:19 < PeterM> starring none other than... kakimir
2016-04-02T18:18:13 < kakimir> just autofellate like a man
2016-04-02T18:18:23 < kakimir> don't involve you mother in it
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2016-04-02T18:41:38 < kakimir> is RTS signal like active low output from rs232 transceiver?
2016-04-02T18:43:01 < kakimir> I have it trigger'd and when I push RTS button in program it does go low
2016-04-02T18:47:01 < kakimir> sweeet
2016-04-02T18:47:17 < kakimir> those signals are like active low
2016-04-02T18:47:22 < kakimir> high is low
2016-04-02T18:48:03 < kakimir> no txd is high between frames but data itself is lowlow highhigh
2016-04-02T18:48:05 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-02T18:49:11 < kakimir> who cares
2016-04-02T18:49:20 < kakimir> I just connect it to board and let it be
2016-04-02T18:49:41 < kakimir> loopback is quite nice method for testing serial interfaces
2016-04-02T18:49:49 < kakimir> +scope
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2016-04-02T19:03:52 < kakimir> yes RTS and CTS are active low
2016-04-02T19:04:03 < kakimir> TXD and RXD are not
2016-04-02T19:06:24 < Steffann> You can find this all in a datasheet or probably even on wikipedia you know?
2016-04-02T19:06:49 < kakimir> I did
2016-04-02T19:10:08 < Laurenceb_> its horribly confused
2016-04-02T19:10:20 < Laurenceb_> I guess as there is no fixed standard
2016-04-02T19:13:48 < kakimir> I didn't understand really anything about rs232 in like year ago
2016-04-02T19:13:56 < kakimir> only that txd and rxd
2016-04-02T19:13:58 < kakimir> connect them
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2016-04-02T19:53:54 < lorenzo> STM8s in the wild http://i.imgur.com/Gqxg5Wg.jpg
2016-04-02T19:54:24 < jpa-> volt meter?
2016-04-02T19:54:39 < lorenzo> yeah, usual 0.7$ aliexpress thing
2016-04-02T19:54:42 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-02T19:55:13 < lorenzo> swim header on the right too
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2016-04-02T20:06:05 < kakimir> 2hours to fix few bad sot23 footprints
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2016-04-02T20:06:40 < kakimir> little things
2016-04-02T20:06:56 < kakimir> do not fuk up them
2016-04-02T20:09:23 < jpa-> how do you fuck up at sot23 footprint?
2016-04-02T20:11:14 < Steffann> Being finnish is enough.
2016-04-02T20:11:32 < kakimir> using italian libraries
2016-04-02T20:11:52 < Steffann> And how do you feel about that?
2016-04-02T20:13:32 < lorenzo> italians are only good at pizzas
2016-04-02T20:14:53 < Steffann> At least you're proud of your own people :P
2016-04-02T20:15:28 < kakimir> lot of stuff is italian actually
2016-04-02T20:16:08 < kakimir> and quite ok
2016-04-02T20:16:46 < kakimir> you would assume everything to be german but I have not seen anything but cars and tractors
2016-04-02T20:16:50 < jpa-> lorenzo: i don't like the "real" italian style pizzas :)
2016-04-02T20:17:56 < lorenzo> can't satisfy everyone :-)
2016-04-02T20:18:21 < englishman> italians made arduino
2016-04-02T20:18:24 < englishman> do i need to continue
2016-04-02T20:18:55 < kakimir> this chinese reflow gun makes my bulbs blink
2016-04-02T20:19:05 < lorenzo> englishman: that was an italian-spanish combo
2016-04-02T20:19:08 < lorenzo> what could go wrong
2016-04-02T20:19:11 < kakimir> the actual incadecent one
2016-04-02T20:19:14 < kakimir> not led one
2016-04-02T20:20:37 < lorenzo> too thin wires?
2016-04-02T20:21:17 < jpa-> bad electricity in your mom's basement?
2016-04-02T20:22:16 < kakimir> I don't live there anymore
2016-04-02T20:22:24 < kakimir> besides it was my grandmas basements!
2016-04-02T20:22:28 < jpa-> she kicked you out?
2016-04-02T20:22:55 < kakimir> I left for university
2016-04-02T20:23:16 < jpa-> what are you studying?
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2016-04-02T20:24:57 < kakimir> I still have mechanical engineering place if I really wanted to enjoy student life
2016-04-02T20:25:06 < kakimir> did only like year
2016-04-02T20:25:14 < kakimir> very stoned
2016-04-02T20:25:31 < kakimir> at former TKK
2016-04-02T20:26:08 < kakimir> I think they may remove me from their books in few years
2016-04-02T20:31:02 < kakimir> you did TKK jpa?
2016-04-02T20:31:18 < jpa-> nah, tty
2016-04-02T20:31:36 < jpa-> signal processing & telecom
2016-04-02T20:34:13 < Steffann> You surprise me every day kakimir
2016-04-02T20:34:51 < kakimir> I was very stoned
2016-04-02T20:35:30 < Steffann> And nothing changed since then
2016-04-02T20:36:32 < jpa-> kakimir: as in actually stoned or just stupid?
2016-04-02T20:37:32 < kakimir> actually and metaphorically
2016-04-02T20:37:39 < kakimir> combined with my slow pace
2016-04-02T20:37:48 < kakimir> could not survive
2016-04-02T20:38:33 < jpa-> slow pace of studying? one can still study like 10 years if going for master's (compared to 5 years target time)
2016-04-02T20:39:06 < Steffann> One doesnt pay tution fees in finnishland?
2016-04-02T20:39:17 < Steffann> or is it so low one can easily pay it for 10 years
2016-04-02T20:39:35 < jpa-> Steffann: mandatory fees are only like some 100 EUR/year 
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2016-04-02T20:39:47 < kakimir> I could not keep up at lections
2016-04-02T20:39:48 < Steffann> oh, explains it all.
2016-04-02T20:39:50 < jpa-> though for non-finnish people they now added a tuition that is some thousands
2016-04-02T20:40:08 < kakimir> I couldn't and still can't write fast enought notes
2016-04-02T20:40:17 < kakimir> with pen to say
2016-04-02T20:40:34 < Steffann> but i bet that is a common thing in finnishland kakimir
2016-04-02T20:40:38 < jpa-> i never wrote notes in university, they have books etc. for that
2016-04-02T20:40:41 < Steffann> All the finnish words are toooo long
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2016-04-02T20:43:33 < Steffann> I always wrote notes, to never use them.
2016-04-02T20:43:52 < jpa-> Steffann: what did you study?
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2016-04-02T20:44:26 < Steffanx> Some IT/EE study thing.
2016-04-02T20:44:56 < jpa-> i hope your thesis is online somewhere
2016-04-02T20:45:04  * jpa- googles for Steffann Naffets
2016-04-02T20:45:06 < Steffanx> nope
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2016-04-02T20:45:59 < Steffanx> Im ashamed of it. ( it has eagle schematics in it )
2016-04-02T20:46:19 < Steffanx> So i had it pulled of hte interwebs
2016-04-02T20:46:54 < jpa-> now that i think about it, i still haven't seen any of your projects
2016-04-02T20:47:07 < jpa-> well, unless the personal gift to Tectu counts..
2016-04-02T20:47:17 < Steffanx> personal gift?
2016-04-02T20:47:38 < Steffanx> I don't remember doing that
2016-04-02T20:48:45 < Steffanx> And i hardly finnish a project. Always start something else when the other gets boring/tedious. Hence not much to show
2016-04-02T20:50:27 < Steffanx> I dont feel the need to put my "Wooden animal puzzle" style projects on the web either.
2016-04-02T20:50:42 < jpa-> hehe
2016-04-02T20:51:03 < Steffanx> anyway you were refering to those displays?
2016-04-02T20:51:13 < Steffanx> Those were not a gift, he paid for it. With real monies.
2016-04-02T20:51:24 < jpa-> nah i was just joking
2016-04-02T20:51:35 < kakimir> I fukken fukked gd damn
2016-04-02T20:51:47 < kakimir> I sensed smell but did nothing about it
2016-04-02T20:51:57 < Steffanx> jpa- you dont joke. Not ever.
2016-04-02T20:52:00 < jpa-> kakimir: did you poo your pants again?
2016-04-02T20:52:20 < kakimir> I carefully connected the rs232 board to my board an power lead was of course wrong way
2016-04-02T20:52:56 < kakimir> that chip was so hot that when I touched it my thumb smoked a little
2016-04-02T20:53:23 < kakimir> it be busted now?
2016-04-02T20:53:34 < jpa-> probably
2016-04-02T20:53:55 < Steffanx> Can you read the chip numbering in your thumb now kakimir?
2016-04-02T20:54:17 < kakimir> I can read my fingerprint from the chip
2016-04-02T20:54:19 < Steffanx> Dont we all have the text 7805 in our thumb?
2016-04-02T20:54:26 < Steffanx> *on
2016-04-02T20:54:32 < jpa-> you can go to bebek and show him your finger "one of these thx"
2016-04-02T20:54:50 < kakimir> local bebek bankrupted
2016-04-02T20:55:14 < kakimir> and I saw the seller collecting empty bottles with some grandmas
2016-04-02T20:55:23 < Steffanx> who the hell is bebek?
2016-04-02T20:55:39 < jpa-> finnish chain of crappy electronics
2016-04-02T20:55:40 < kakimir> cool electronics store in the 90's
2016-04-02T20:56:06 < jpa-> founded by some dude called Reset Kebab or something
2016-04-02T20:56:11 < kakimir> the franchise owner is some kebab
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2016-04-02T20:56:44 < jpa-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT63Is0ybyI   here is the dude
2016-04-02T20:56:55 < Steffanx> Google translate told me its turkish for baby, must be related to the kebab
2016-04-02T20:59:38 < Steffanx> jpa- currently im stealing this for fun: http://www.delfly.nl/explorer.html . Have the algorithm implemented ( because easy) but getting 2 camera's to work is a different thing
2016-04-02T20:59:44 < Steffanx> especially when they need to be synced.
2016-04-02T21:00:16 < Steffanx> At the moment getting good output from on camera is even an issue, but that's probably a timing thing.
2016-04-02T21:00:22 < Steffanx> *on = one
2016-04-02T21:00:38 < jpa-> you're hooking cameras to stm32? nice
2016-04-02T21:00:46 < jpa-> i should try that some time
2016-04-02T21:01:23 < Steffanx> not even using dcmi, because there is only one of that.
2016-04-02T21:01:35 < jpa-> which camera?
2016-04-02T21:01:43 < Steffanx> ov2640
2016-04-02T21:02:02 < jpa-> arducam!
2016-04-02T21:02:36 < Steffanx> No, not arduicam
2016-04-02T21:02:47 < jpa-> ;)
2016-04-02T21:03:01 < Steffanx> ArduCam uses an FPGA, that is no fun.
2016-04-02T21:03:04 < jpa-> it's cool enough that you should blag it
2016-04-02T21:05:37 < Steffanx> http://imgur.com/IGBupQ1 such great result -_-
2016-04-02T21:06:05 < jpa-> great resolution :)
2016-04-02T21:06:23 < Steffanx> Sure, more I cannot store in my stm32
2016-04-02T21:06:52 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-02T21:07:02 < Steffanx> and sent out using semihosting in fancy ppm
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2016-04-02T23:40:12 < Laurenceb_> random c++/Qt question
2016-04-02T23:40:20 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting this at runtime
2016-04-02T23:40:22 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/sKW86srU
2016-04-02T23:40:38 < Laurenceb_> any ideas what could cause it? it crops up when I increase the size of an array
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2016-04-02T23:57:06 < wbraun> does anyone have a documented working setup with GCC / STMCUBE?
2016-04-02T23:57:46 < wbraun> I am trying to write my own makefile but getting confused and I saw a few makefile generator projects for it on github, but I am not having much luck getting them to work
2016-04-02T23:58:03 < Fleck> I do, not documented though
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2016-04-03T00:00:24 < wbraun> Do you have a makefile on github?
2016-04-03T00:00:44 < Fleck> nope
2016-04-03T00:01:05 < Fleck> have it on my webserv:D
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2016-04-03T00:01:30 < wbraun> I think I almost have everything working but the stm32f0xx_hal.h does not follow the general hiarchy
2016-04-03T00:01:38 < wbraun> is that webserver public facing?
2016-04-03T00:01:51 < Fleck> yep
2016-04-03T00:01:57 < wbraun> can I haz link?
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2016-04-03T00:03:05 < Fleck> sure
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2016-04-03T00:07:31 < wbraun> Prehaps I just need some small amount of makefile help
2016-04-03T00:07:32 < wbraun> http://pastebin.com/cHX76Swa
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2016-04-03T00:07:47 < wbraun> I am modifying this from a previous project, which a got from a frient
2016-04-03T00:07:50 < wbraun> *friend
2016-04-03T00:08:06 < wbraun> I am a bit confused as to the difference between INC and C_INC
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2016-04-03T00:08:50 < wbraun> The issue I am having is that main.c includes stm32f0xx_hal.h, which is not in Inc/
2016-04-03T00:09:05 < wbraun> but rather in all the directories that MXCUBE spit out
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2016-04-03T00:21:14 < wbraun> oooh, I have it more working now. I just had a typo in my makefile
2016-04-03T00:21:18 < wbraun> I think I see how things work
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2016-04-03T00:25:43 < wbraun> now I am getting a bunch of undeclared errors, so I guess I messed something up
2016-04-03T00:31:08 < saph0> Wbraun: checked your includes ?
2016-04-03T00:31:22 < wbraun> thats what I am trying to figure out / strugling with
2016-04-03T00:31:51 < kakimir> my 2003 debug server kills my zenbook in audio quality
2016-04-03T00:32:06 < kakimir> dell quality from back the days
2016-04-03T00:32:22 < wbraun> I am getting undefined errors for even basic data types
2016-04-03T00:32:29 < wbraun> so I think I really messed something up
2016-04-03T00:32:38 < wbraun> the MXCUBE stuff should be C99, right?
2016-04-03T00:34:38 < wbraun> getting errors like “unint16_t undeclared”
2016-04-03T00:35:15 < wbraun> but I am including all the CMIS stuff
2016-04-03T00:35:42 < wbraun> is the order in which I include things in the make file important or something?
2016-04-03T00:38:06 < saph0> Shouldnt matter as long as its in there before you build the object obv.
2016-04-03T00:39:14 < wbraun> I am getting these errors when trying to make main.o
2016-04-03T00:39:21 < wbraun> Src/main.o
2016-04-03T00:39:21 < Thorn> do you #include <stdint.h>?
2016-04-03T00:39:52 < wbraun> for Cortex-m stuff, all those definitions are included in the CMSIS files
2016-04-03T00:40:19 < wbraun> I am literally just porting a project over to MXCUBE, I have no clue whats going on
2016-04-03T00:41:21 < Thorn> (also unint16_t is a typo)
2016-04-03T00:41:40 < wbraun> I typed it in wrong to irc
2016-04-03T00:43:59 < wbraun> it seems like it is giving an error on every single thing it can
2016-04-03T00:44:45 < saph0> Wbraun: check what libs the errors belong to ? If it's one lib i.e. Stdint , chekc thats included , if multiple libs, check your paths
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2016-04-03T00:44:58 < wbraun> http://pastebin.com/ejQ0DYaW
2016-04-03T00:45:06 < wbraun> is there some obvious error I am missing?
2016-04-03T00:45:33 < wbraun> things were set up in roughly the same way before and everything worked
2016-04-03T00:45:36 < Thorn> is the undefined uint32_t error in library code, library headers or your code?
2016-04-03T00:45:55 < wbraun> esentially all I did was add some more files / change the location of the CMSIS stuff
2016-04-03T00:46:35 < wbraun> the undefined errors are in the header files
2016-04-03T00:48:13 < Thorn> add #include <stdint.h> before #include <file with the error.h>
2016-04-03T00:48:37 < Thorn> in main.c
2016-04-03T00:49:38 < rewolff1> laurenceb, laurenceb_: I would hazzard the guess that you're running out of memory....
2016-04-03T00:49:50 < wbraun> those errors may have gone away? There are so many errors I can not see them all in the terminal
2016-04-03T00:50:11 < wbraun> those datatypes should already be defined in other files I am attempting to include though Thorn
2016-04-03T00:50:31 < wbraun> the CMIS header files define that
2016-04-03T00:50:56 < wbraun> it almost seems that no header file is using the things defined in any other header file?
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2016-04-03T00:54:08 < rewolff1> lorenzo: STM32 in the wild! http://www.banggood.com/50A-DC-Digital-Multifunction-Power-Meter-Energy-Monitor-Module-Voltmeter-Ammeter-With-Shunt-p-996110.html?currency=EUR&utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=all&utm_campaign=electronics-NL
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2016-04-03T01:03:48 < wbraun> I am not even at that level yet
2016-04-03T01:03:53 < wbraun> I am just dealing with includes
2016-04-03T01:04:39 < wbraun> I seem to have included everything generated by MXCUBE yet in main.c I am getting errors as stupid as “‘GPIOA’ undeclared”
2016-04-03T01:05:20 < wbraun> this was not the case when I was using the old library, so I think I massively messed something up?
2016-04-03T01:05:32 < Thorn> maybe you included files in the wrong order
2016-04-03T01:05:53 < Thorn> are there any "foo.h not found" errors?
2016-04-03T01:05:54 < wbraun> is that a thing? Is there a order? How do I determine / ensure that?
2016-04-03T01:06:50 < wbraun> no errors like that. It just seems to not be able to find the individual things that are defined
2016-04-03T01:06:57 < Thorn> #include <first.h>
2016-04-03T01:07:07 < Thorn> #include <second.h>  // sees stuff declared in first.h
2016-04-03T01:08:22 < wbraun> oh. I am just using the default things generated by MXCUBE
2016-04-03T01:08:27 < wbraun> there is no code of my own
2016-04-03T01:08:51 < wbraun> I remember in the old library you had to define you are using the library or something. Prehaps its something like that...
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2016-04-03T01:09:50 < wbraun> but it seems like main.c is not having anything defined for it. Is the syntax of my make file correct?
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2016-04-03T01:12:43 < wbraun> ooh, prehaps this is the error I am making
2016-04-03T01:13:02 < wbraun> so I have %.o: %.c $(C_INC)
2016-04-03T01:13:02 < wbraun>     arm-none-eabi-gcc $(CFLAGS) -c -o $@ $<
2016-04-03T01:13:40 < wbraun> What exactly does C_INC do?
2016-04-03T01:14:00 < wbraun> right now C_INC is only Inc/*.h
2016-04-03T01:14:14 < wbraun> while INC, which is passed to GCC contains the path to every header file
2016-04-03T01:16:56 < Thorn> it'a low-tech way to make make recompile your source files (all of them) if headers change (any of them) [project headers, not library headers]
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2016-04-03T01:26:18 < wbraun> oooh, I think I figured out on issue. I needed to include stm32f072xb.h
2016-04-03T01:26:34 < wbraun> I guess MXCUBE assumed whatever toolchain would select / do that
2016-04-03T01:26:43 < wbraun> so that fixed some of the undefined things
2016-04-03T01:27:00 < wbraun> still getting errors about data types being undefined
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2016-04-03T01:34:04 < wbraun> in my previous project setups I have not had to include stdint.h, yet I got all the datatypes
2016-04-03T01:34:08 < wbraun> so I wonder what went wrong
2016-04-03T01:35:04 < kakimir> do you need to make uninstall before rebuilding and installing stuff to update all the files?
2016-04-03T01:35:16 < kakimir> or is make install replacing?
2016-04-03T01:40:39 < scummos> make install usually replaces things
2016-04-03T01:40:51 < scummos> it might still make sense to run make uninstall before, because replace doesn't mean "delete old fiels"
2016-04-03T01:40:55 < scummos> *files
2016-04-03T01:41:17 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-03T01:41:17 < scummos> i.e. if a file got removed and you just run make install again, it will still be there
2016-04-03T01:41:21 < kakimir> but rarelly old files hurt
2016-04-03T01:41:57 < wbraun> hurm. Now I am getting implicit declaration of function errors
2016-04-03T01:42:09 < wbraun> but following all the include paths, these things should be defined
2016-04-03T01:42:44 < scummos> maybe missing defines for some #ifdefs?
2016-04-03T01:42:56 < wbraun> nope, they are not even conditional....
2016-04-03T01:46:48 < wbraun> hah! I think it works now
2016-04-03T01:47:02 < wbraun> something stupid with the naming of the chips compared to the old library
2016-04-03T01:47:12 < wbraun> and they have conditional defines base on that
2016-04-03T01:47:27 < wbraun> nothing was matching, so individual data types were not being defined
2016-04-03T01:47:48 < wbraun> I thought I fixed it, but I just included the part header file instead of defining the part. Derp
2016-04-03T01:48:11 < wbraun> and now I do not even need stdint.h
2016-04-03T01:48:14 < wbraun> whee
2016-04-03T01:48:23 < wbraun> Thanks for being my rubber ducky!
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2016-04-03T02:12:06 < Thorn> what is the catch http://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-with-TL-21-TL-22-New-Japan-/161104294237
2016-04-03T02:12:54 < Thorn> other models whth same chipset seem to be $200+
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2016-04-03T02:15:43 < PeterM> Thorn, there is no catch
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2016-04-03T02:18:47 < Thorn> from eevblog: it doesn't have nice kelvin leads and it measures ESR with 0.6V so it can bias semiconductors (if used in-circuit)
2016-04-03T02:19:45 < PeterM> 1) not a problem wiht the lcr meter 2)still not a problem wiht the meter
2016-04-03T02:21:25 < Thorn> also basic accuracy is 0.3% vs. 0.25% for tonghui. some actually seem to think it makes a real difference
2016-04-03T02:22:25 < PeterM> heh, when parasitics can account for that much
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2016-04-03T02:25:06 < Thorn> aaand it seems to do 100kHz (compare price to http://www.aliexpress.com/price/th2822c_price.html)
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2016-04-03T02:26:10 < Thorn> cheaper th2822 versions have 100kHz disabled and eevblog has been unable to hack it yet afaict
2016-04-03T02:26:19 < Thorn> (not sure if need)
2016-04-03T02:27:42 < Thorn> I mean the forum
2016-04-03T02:34:00 < Thorn> here's a Russian meter based on the same chipset (horribly overpriced) http://www.aktakom.ru/kio/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=270364
2016-04-03T02:34:19 < Thorn> it has 4 terminals for standard kelvin leads. why others don't?
2016-04-03T02:40:50 < Thorn> it seems to have the same features and accuracy (and even lcd symbols) as the DER but for 4.2x more money
2016-04-03T02:45:04 < PeterM> ive got an applent lcr meter thats not too shabby
2016-04-03T02:45:50 < PeterM> yes, applent, not agilent :s
2016-04-03T02:46:48 < Thorn> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/applent-at825-lcr-teardown-review/ ?
2016-04-03T02:46:57 < PeterM> yeah
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2016-04-03T03:23:29 < wbraun> looks like I almost have everything working. Last issue: lack of starup.s file for the stm32f072
2016-04-03T03:23:59 < wbraun> I have one for the stm32f051, I dont remember where I got it
2016-04-03T03:24:36 < wbraun> I was able to get MXCube to spit one out for the STM32f072, but it is in a different format that GCC can not deal with.
2016-04-03T03:24:50 < wbraun> Is there some other way of aquiring this file?
2016-04-03T03:25:14 < wbraun> / can I translate the other format to the one that GCC takes?
2016-04-03T03:26:18 < wbraun> oooh, got one from the standard perphrial library. nm
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2016-04-03T03:43:10 < Thorn> soviet lcr meter http://www.qrz.ru/images/classifieds/2048x2048/5581483d238c1.jpg
2016-04-03T03:50:11 < aandrew> hm
2016-04-03T03:50:21 < aandrew> anyone ever have an STM32 whose reset line is being half-driven?
2016-04-03T03:50:33 < aandrew> I'm seeing about 1.4-1.5V on it. if I add a 10k to 3.3V it climbs to about 2V
2016-04-03T03:50:42 < aandrew> the rails look good (all 3.3, don't appear to be missing any)
2016-04-03T03:50:54 < aandrew> I have multiple boards (same design) all doing this so I'm positive it's something I've fucked up
2016-04-03T03:51:20 < Thorn> resistance to gnd and vcc?
2016-04-03T03:53:04 < aandrew> BOOT1/BOOT0 are both pulled to ground through 10k
2016-04-03T03:53:05 < aandrew> moment
2016-04-03T03:54:28 < aandrew> 10k to 3.3, ~12k to ground
2016-04-03T03:55:12 < aandrew> unusual numbers, I do NOT have a 10k pullup on that line
2016-04-03T03:55:26 < aandrew> I do have a 0.1uF cap to ground and the reset button to ground
2016-04-03T03:55:29 < aandrew> that's it though
2016-04-03T03:55:46 < aandrew> oh wait, I do have a resistor
2016-04-03T03:55:49 < aandrew> hang on forgot about it
2016-04-03T03:56:27 < aandrew> yeah, pulled up to 3.3 through 10k physical resistor
2016-04-03T03:57:03 < aandrew> I may have found the culprit
2016-04-03T03:57:54 < aandrew> got an ADG3300 (bidir level translator) sitting on that pin as well, but the "A" side is unpowered
2016-04-03T03:59:06 < aandrew> hm, it's wired correctly
2016-04-03T03:59:31 < aandrew> the STM32 is on the "Y" side of the ADG3300. VCCY is the STM32's 3.3V supply rail.
2016-04-03T04:00:07 < aandrew> "A" side of ADG3300 references a 1.8V supply (VCCA must be < VCCY) and the EN signal references VCCA and is at same level (floating, but not pulled down... hmm)
2016-04-03T04:00:10 < aandrew> moment installing pulldown
2016-04-03T04:03:55 < aandrew> nope didn't help
2016-04-03T04:03:58 < aandrew> but wasn't a bad idea
2016-04-03T04:11:19 < aandrew> pulling the level translator off the board (so the reset line just has 10k to 3.3V) immediately brings it upt o 3.3v but still can't talk to it on swd
2016-04-03T04:12:30 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rin_TU7yfM
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2016-04-03T04:18:21 < wbraun> and now I have my last level of errors!
2016-04-03T04:18:22 < wbraun> http://pastebin.com/cyhqBZDv
2016-04-03T04:18:34 < wbraun> so it looks like some functions are defined twice?
2016-04-03T04:18:47 < wbraun> And I have some issue with the provided startup.s file
2016-04-03T04:18:59 < wbraun> why do I have the worst luck with this stuff….
2016-04-03T04:21:39 < wbraun> ok. So it looks like some of those are template files
2016-04-03T04:22:38 < wbraun> I am trying to get it in a working state first
2016-04-03T04:22:59 < wbraun> also, should I be putting the libraries on github?
2016-04-03T04:24:06 < wbraun> looking at the licence “redistribution must contain copyright licence"
2016-04-03T04:24:09 < wbraun> so I guess I can
2016-04-03T04:24:33 < wbraun> I had someone tell me to remove the standard pephrial library before putting it on github
2016-04-03T04:24:45 < wbraun> but that might have been for size reasons
2016-04-03T04:27:17 < wbraun> ok. Now only two issues
2016-04-03T04:27:41 < wbraun> undefined reference to “SystemCoreClock”
2016-04-03T04:27:46 < Thorn> >attempt to justify charging 3x the price for the same instrument, by increasing the model number and very slightly tightening the specs
2016-04-03T04:27:58 < wbraun> in hal_rcc.c
2016-04-03T04:28:22 < wbraun> and undefined reference to Systeminit in startup.s
2016-04-03T04:33:18 < aandrew> hm
2016-04-03T04:33:32 < aandrew> removed the 100nf cap on the reset pin, now there's nothing on the reset line and still nothing
2016-04-03T04:33:35 < aandrew> this isn't rocket science
2016-04-03T04:35:47 < PeterM> i never thought head trackign would be a practical thing until i saw this, at which point it all makes sense http://i.imgur.com/ZPJoF4Z.webm
2016-04-03T04:38:47 < PeterM> sorry, i was only thinking of mind bullets
2016-04-03T04:41:18 < wbraun> so SystemCoreClock is an extern in one of the header files
2016-04-03T04:41:28 < wbraun> I am 99% sure its an included file
2016-04-03T04:41:30 < PeterM> uhhh, and deathmaking isnt a cool computer science problem?
2016-04-03T04:41:48 < wbraun> its in my path for includes, and I think one of the files has an #include statement for it
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2016-04-03T04:47:04 < wbraun> yes, I have traced the convoluted path of defines back to the correct file
2016-04-03T04:47:14 < wbraun> so what gives?
2016-04-03T04:47:37 < wbraun> the function is complaining about a undefined reference
2016-04-03T04:48:04 < wbraun> and that varable is defined as an extern via a convoluted path of about 5 #include statements
2016-04-03T04:52:35 < wbraun> so this could be an issue with my linker script?
2016-04-03T04:53:21 < wbraun> the variable is defined as an extern in some header file
2016-04-03T04:53:26 < wbraun> and it should be included
2016-04-03T04:53:51 < wbraun> I have found the header file and gone through and checked the includes
2016-04-03T04:54:33 < wbraun> its defined in system_stm32f0xx.h
2016-04-03T04:55:43 < wbraun> yah, there is also a .c file
2016-04-03T04:56:09 < wbraun> hurm, in my old project versions system_stm******.c/.h were in the top level things
2016-04-03T04:59:20 < wbraun> looks like that file only exsists in the templates directories
2016-04-03T04:59:29 < wbraun> is this something that MXCUBE failed to generate or something?
2016-04-03T05:00:37 < wbraun> this is not good, its one of the pain to deal with files with the clock settings...
2016-04-03T05:01:47 < wbraun> I am keeping things seperate :)
2016-04-03T05:01:54 < wbraun> I hope I will only need to run that once
2016-04-03T05:03:44 < wbraun> ah, so it looks like this file is sort of a legacy thing?
2016-04-03T05:04:08 < wbraun> As some HAL function configures it now
2016-04-03T05:05:52 < wbraun> Yes! Everything appears to work!
2016-04-03T05:06:01 < wbraun> or at least compiles....
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2016-04-03T05:23:14 < wbraun> is that new?
2016-04-03T05:23:24 < wbraun> I installed mxcube on ubuntu a few weeks ago
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2016-04-03T05:27:34 < Laurenceb_> Give a man a porno, and he can pleasure himself for a day, teach a man to perv with a drone and he can pleasure himself for a lifetime.
2016-04-03T05:28:13 < wbraun> whee, I got it working. (I think, just running a counter)
2016-04-03T05:28:41 < wbraun> What a yak shaving week, I migrated from st-util to openOCD and from the standard perf library to MXCUBE
2016-04-03T05:36:31 < aandrew> ohsix: huh? you could always run cube in linux or osx
2016-04-03T05:39:19 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/3q0AgWI dongs wtf is this
2016-04-03T05:40:52 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/raYdm4z
2016-04-03T05:40:55 < ReadError> disgusting
2016-04-03T05:40:58 < ReadError> jap water park
2016-04-03T05:41:27 < ReadError> i can only imagine what that water is filled with
2016-04-03T05:41:41 < ReadError> its supersaturated in jap though
2016-04-03T05:41:42 < Laurenceb_> you are thinking of india
2016-04-03T05:41:58 < Laurenceb_> D E S I G N A T E D
2016-04-03T05:43:09 < wbraun> oh yay! I even have the device showing up on the usb port!
2016-04-03T05:43:17 < Laurenceb_> http://img.ifcdn.com/images/2c9d85c77855fc467916970e1e7a5d109ab9575bf69fa84217ef12435bc6550c_1.jpg
2016-04-03T05:48:44 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/QsSHH8u
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2016-04-03T05:55:55 < wbraun> yay! My working setup: https://github.com/westonb/open-cell-incubator/tree/master/firmware/host_board
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2016-04-03T06:16:06 < timemob> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Battery-Pack-BMS-Using-For/
2016-04-03T06:38:25 < aandrew> ok
2016-04-03T06:38:27 < aandrew> so I figured it out
2016-04-03T06:38:41 < aandrew> this new STM32 board has a stupid 4 pin 0.050" header for SWD
2016-04-03T06:38:47 < aandrew> I have this little adapter board that converts it
2016-04-03T06:38:54 < aandrew> the fucking silk on the adapter board is not right
2016-04-03T06:39:01 < aandrew> swapped SWDCK and SWDIO
2016-04-03T06:39:02 < aandrew> fuck a duck
2016-04-03T06:39:05 < aandrew> this is so fucking stupid
2016-04-03T06:39:14 < aandrew> I checked this a dozen times because it's happened before
2016-04-03T06:39:23 < aandrew> and a dozen fucking times I mentally swapped them I guess
2016-04-03T06:39:25 < aandrew> fucking hell
2016-04-03T06:39:39 < aandrew> nah
2016-04-03T06:39:44 < aandrew> that was a red herring
2016-04-03T06:39:45 < aandrew> actually
2016-04-03T06:39:47 < aandrew> let me try another board now
2016-04-03T06:40:56 < aandrew> yeah that's just a red herring. it appears to work fine
2016-04-03T06:41:12 < aandrew> I guess I should put a fucking led blinker app on this just to make fucking sure
2016-04-03T06:41:16 < aandrew> what a crock of shit
2016-04-03T06:44:36 < timemob> autism technology
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2016-04-03T07:11:35 < aandrew> http://i.imgur.com/HDBhTnY.gifv
2016-04-03T07:11:39 < aandrew> japan? japan.
2016-04-03T07:21:25 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/r/funny/8PoO2dw
2016-04-03T07:37:26 < ReadError> dont harsh my high bro
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2016-04-03T08:51:17 < ReadError> how do anti-spark connectors work
2016-04-03T08:54:42 < ReadError> only connects 1 side ?
2016-04-03T08:54:49 < ReadError> like bridges the + side
2016-04-03T08:57:32 < PeterM> pretty easy
2016-04-03T08:57:45 < PeterM> they have a small conenctor that has a series resistor of liek 10a
2016-04-03T08:57:52 < PeterM> that connects fiorst
2016-04-03T08:58:09 < PeterM> then for full insertion it just connects straight
2016-04-03T08:59:34 < PeterM> http://photos05.redcart.pl/templates/images/description/995/Image/wtyki/xt/XT-90-S_41.jpg example xt-90 antispark
2016-04-03T08:59:49 < PeterM> says 56 ohm
2016-04-03T09:00:05 < PeterM> wait 5.6ohm
2016-04-03T09:01:01 < PeterM> i use xt-150s though, because you can easily series up batts
2016-04-03T09:02:03 < ReadError> ahh okay
2016-04-03T09:02:15 < ReadError> was gonna grab some of those was just trying to see what the magic was
2016-04-03T09:06:54 < wbraun> ?why would you bother with an anti-spark connector
2016-04-03T09:07:54 < ReadError> connector oxidizes
2016-04-03T09:08:37 < PeterM> wbraun, you take chunks out of your connectors
2016-04-03T09:09:10 < ReadError> yea even the lil packs arc a bit
2016-04-03T09:09:16 < ReadError> 60v would probably be pretty mean
2016-04-03T09:09:23 < PeterM> if you have say 3300uf of capacitance iin your device and its at 0v and you go to plug in your 60v batrtery pack, inrush current is going to be 100s of amps
2016-04-03T09:09:37 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-03T09:10:10 < PeterM> after about 10 cycles at 8s it already looks nasty, at 12s it only takes 3-4
2016-04-03T09:10:14 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__64437__Multistar_High_Capacity_6S_8000mAh_Multi_Rotor_Lipo_Pack_US_Warehouse_.html
2016-04-03T09:10:25 < ReadError> found these, was like cool deal, saw the 10C
2016-04-03T09:10:35 < ReadError> if they say 10C its probably like 2C
2016-04-03T09:10:57 < PeterM> that looks fine
2016-04-03T09:11:02 < PeterM> i'd go with 4x
2016-04-03T09:11:10 < ReadError> ehhh ive heard some shit things about that series of packs
2016-04-03T09:11:47 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=66480
2016-04-03T09:11:53 < PeterM> yeah, i'd almsot never run them in a 1p setup
2016-04-03T09:11:56 < ReadError> these are a nice price too, but same thing
2016-04-03T09:12:28 < PeterM> the 4s10ah are worse $/wh than the 6s8ah
2016-04-03T09:12:41 < PeterM> and they are more connectors
2016-04-03T09:13:22 < ReadError> they dont have any good batt deals right now
2016-04-03T09:13:39 < PeterM> yeah, there was the $44 6s5ah packs i linked
2016-04-03T09:13:53 < PeterM> sure they're the bottom of the barrel turdigy
2016-04-03T09:14:13 < ReadError> im looking at the USA warehouses though
2016-04-03T09:14:22 < PeterM> but they'll almost certainly take a big mroe of a beating than those multistar packs
2016-04-03T09:15:26 < PeterM> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16207__Turnigy_5000mAh_6S_20C_Lipo_Pack_US_Warehouse_.html
2016-04-03T09:16:41 < ReadError> http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=84_216&products_id=2326
2016-04-03T09:16:52 < ReadError> 4s but thats a good ass price
2016-04-03T09:17:08 < ReadError> got a few folks that could grab them from the warehouse and reship
2016-04-03T09:17:15 < PeterM> damn, that is pretty good
2016-04-03T09:17:39 < PeterM> for that price i'd get some 4L OSH park PCBs made up and make real 12s packs from them
2016-04-03T09:18:00 < ReadError> i cant charge 12s though
2016-04-03T09:18:46 < PeterM> you dont have a 60v psu?
2016-04-03T09:18:54 < ReadError> i would build bricks of 3 with 2x 6s balance leads and 2x main battery lead
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2016-04-03T09:19:15 < ReadError> nah I dont
2016-04-03T09:19:22 < ReadError> I dont have a charger that will do it either
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2016-04-03T09:19:31 < PeterM> ahh ok
2016-04-03T09:19:47 < ReadError> 12s chargers must be more niche?
2016-04-03T09:19:55 < ReadError> cant think of much in the RC world that would use that
2016-04-03T09:19:57 < PeterM> well i still think ifoyu are goign ot do that you should get some PCBs made up and affix the cells properly and then heAtsink em
2016-04-03T09:20:05 < ReadError> maybe some big helis/planes
2016-04-03T09:20:21 < PeterM> i was running 12s on ym 5th scales
2016-04-03T09:21:29 < ReadError> damn I wish I knew I was planning on doing this build back in feb, they brought their entire battery stash down to FL and were slinging them for suuupper cheap
2016-04-03T09:21:34 < ReadError> since they cant mail a bunch of them now
2016-04-03T09:21:56 < PeterM> do you have friends?
2016-04-03T09:21:59 < PeterM> or family?
2016-04-03T09:22:48 < ReadError> I got 2 friends in ohio that are near them
2016-04-03T09:23:15 < ReadError> then flatrape shipping
2016-04-03T09:23:52 < PeterM> if oyu trust the batts, jsut tell em to buy em, pack them VERY well and flat rate ship them but dont declare are batts
2016-04-03T09:25:02 < ReadError> oh ya
2016-04-03T09:25:10 < ReadError> well inside the USA theres no declarations
2016-04-03T09:25:23 < ReadError> but this company is all about following the 'rules'
2016-04-03T09:25:29 < ReadError> these guys wont care
2016-04-03T09:25:47 < PeterM> really? in aus, you have to declare batteries in shit
2016-04-03T09:25:53 < PeterM> they will still ship em fine
2016-04-03T09:26:00 < PeterM> they will jsut not stick em on planes
2016-04-03T09:26:22 < ReadError> that could be a rule, lot of boxes come w/ the sticker on the outside
2016-04-03T09:29:32 < PeterM> ohsix, because as you plug in the connector all the inrush current if through the resistor...
2016-04-03T09:30:50 < PeterM> pretty much
2016-04-03T09:31:02 < PeterM> jsut regular action is generally sufficient
2016-04-03T09:31:37 < PeterM> it only takes like 0.01s for the caps to charge, even thorugh 5.6ohm
2016-04-03T09:32:00 < PeterM> but at that time the current is like 50a, not 1000a
2016-04-03T09:32:20 < PeterM> because then you would defeat the purpose of low esr capacitors?
2016-04-03T09:32:32 < wbraun> oh, there is signifigant capacitance after the battery pack?
2016-04-03T09:32:40 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-03T09:33:02 < PeterM> because at these power levels battery lead inductance is a big deal still
2016-04-03T09:33:08 < wbraun> Ah. I was just thinking of the ESC’s, which you can obviously turn off before you plug it in
2016-04-03T09:33:40 < PeterM> ....
2016-04-03T09:34:28 < wbraun> I was looking at data sheets of some electrolytic caps this week, its interesting how low the inductance is
2016-04-03T09:34:35 < wbraun> only a few nH
2016-04-03T09:35:25 < PeterM> you have capacitance on the ESC to minimize the effects of battery lead inductance, when you plug in the battery, normally there would be a big spike in current, erroding your connectors, however, using an -anti spark conenctor, the inrush current is limited because during the initial connection of the battery, the caps are charged through a resistor, which is then bridged by the connector
2016-04-03T09:35:57 < PeterM> nop you cant use an inductor, because that means oyu would need even more capactiance o nthe esc because the goal ofthe caps are to minimizethe effects of the lead inductance
2016-04-03T09:37:10 < ReadError> im not so sure you want all that current going through an inductor
2016-04-03T09:38:00 < PeterM> ohsix, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now on.
2016-04-03T09:38:34 < ReadError> lol i have that too
2016-04-03T09:38:53 < ReadError> dfgg - I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from
2016-04-03T09:38:53 < ReadError> now on.
2016-04-03T09:39:36 < ReadError> anyways these connectors are cheap
2016-04-03T09:39:44 < ReadError> and I need some xt90s anyways
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2016-04-03T09:40:41 < PeterM> yeah, xt-90 anti  sparks are cheap, on the big packs that i use with xt-150s i just use an additional 2mm bukllet connecotr with a series resistor as well as the main conenctor and connect that first
2016-04-03T09:41:26 < ReadError> lol xt150 are just bullets?
2016-04-03T09:41:48 < PeterM> yeah bullets with housings and dovetails to join them together
2016-04-03T09:41:56 < PeterM> but htey're pretty much the biggest RC conector you can get
2016-04-03T09:42:40 < PeterM> i like them because if you do what your planning on doing, you dont need an extra y-lead to put your 62 6s packs in series
2016-04-03T09:42:56 < PeterM> because you can jsut plug them into each other in series
2016-04-03T09:43:58 < ReadError> was trying to find a spring/self centering pot
2016-04-03T09:44:10 < PeterM> for throttle?
2016-04-03T09:44:12 < ReadError> but seems less common than I thought
2016-04-03T09:44:14 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-03T09:44:20 < ReadError> they have those little tiny ones
2016-04-03T09:44:41 < ReadError> with the wheel and button
2016-04-03T09:45:19 < PeterM> yeah, they arent very common
2016-04-03T09:45:31 < PeterM> you're planning to use vedders esc right?
2016-04-03T09:46:13 < PeterM> there is an example for pushbutton + pot
2016-04-03T09:46:37 < PeterM> so theres a sorta safety
2016-04-03T09:46:50 < ReadError> PeterM ya
2016-04-03T09:46:51 < ReadError> VESC
2016-04-03T09:46:52 < PeterM> though, usually people use the wi-nunchucks dont they?
2016-04-03T09:47:05 < ReadError> yea thats an option
2016-04-03T09:47:10 < PeterM> and only use that throttle thing for bikes?
2016-04-03T09:47:10 < ReadError> but I kinda like the trigger
2016-04-03T09:47:37 < PeterM> buy an ebay/.craigsslist cheapie xbox controller?
2016-04-03T09:47:54 < ReadError> well it needs to go both ways
2016-04-03T09:47:59 < ReadError> forward/rev
2016-04-03T09:48:09 < ReadError> the xbox style ones are springed one way
2016-04-03T09:48:13 < PeterM> eyah?
2016-04-03T09:48:29 < PeterM> do you really need forward and reverse? not just freewheel reverse?
2016-04-03T09:48:45 < ReadError> i can probably draw something up in solidworks and just machine parts to use a regular ole pot
2016-04-03T09:48:51 < ReadError> PeterM well, braking
2016-04-03T09:49:08 < ReadError> so you need that neutral in the middle
2016-04-03T09:51:11 < PeterM> 2 buttons? 1 for forward, one for backward and the pot for proportional control?
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2016-04-03T10:20:40 < yan> On STM32L1, does anyone know what RTC_Init() returning ERROR can signify?
2016-04-03T10:22:23 < yan> ohsix: yea
2016-04-03T10:25:04 < ReadError> dont you have to do something before you dicker with the RTC?
2016-04-03T10:25:08 < ReadError> backup domain
2016-04-03T10:28:10 < ReadError>   * @note   The RTC Initialization mode is write protected, use the
2016-04-03T10:28:10 < ReadError>   *         RTC_WriteProtectionCmd(DISABLE) before calling this function.
2016-04-03T10:28:13 < ReadError> this
2016-04-03T10:28:23 < rewolff1> https://github.com/dbridges/stm32f4-discovery-lib/blob/master/StdPeriph/src/stm32f4xx_rtc.c#L444
2016-04-03T10:29:03 < ReadError> hmmm maybe thats done in RTC_Init
2016-04-03T10:30:49 < rewolff1> Just follow the code. In rtc_init the only possible error return is from "enterInitMode", which too has only one error exit possiblility.
2016-04-03T10:31:57 < ReadError> prescaler error?
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2016-04-03T10:34:31 < yan> ok i was missing RCC_RTCCLKCmd(ENABLE);
2016-04-03T10:43:58 < yan> hmm not RTC_GetTime() is returning all zeroes
2016-04-03T10:47:21 < yan> nevermind, works now
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2016-04-03T11:32:37 < ReadError> yea on april 1st ;p
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2016-04-03T12:02:30 < dfgg> lol, why me? :(
2016-04-03T12:03:30 < ReadError> random leter+tab
2016-04-03T12:03:34 < ReadError> letter*
2016-04-03T12:11:27 < dfgg> oh, i see
2016-04-03T12:18:37 < PeterM> wait, dfgg was a real person, i thought you jsut mashed keys
2016-04-03T12:43:49 < ReadError> wat
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2016-04-03T13:08:08 < rewolff1> There was some VESC talk going on here this morning. Anybody know where to tune the startup-speed? I Have a bike-hub-motor that isn't so fast....
2016-04-03T13:10:02 < PeterM> rewolff1, consider sending vedder a message
2016-04-03T13:10:15 < PeterM> that is his handle on freenode
2016-04-03T13:10:19 < rewolff1> worked once.
2016-04-03T13:10:50 < rewolff1> i.e. I've seen it happen like 20 times that someone asks a question but he doesn't reply.
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2016-04-03T13:32:05 < ReadError> rewolff1 ramping?
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2016-04-03T13:32:40 < rewolff1> Am I going to find it knowing just that or do you need to tell me where it is hidden in the menus.
2016-04-03T13:32:45 < rewolff1> Let me start BLDC_tool.
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2016-04-03T13:39:33 < dongs> ReadError: no idea, some guy cleaning a bike on google streetview?
2016-04-03T13:44:47 < rewolff1> ReadError: Ehh. After not getting bldc_tool to compile on my current workstation, I've copied over the binary from my laptop. That works. I see "max current ramp step" , sped limit ramp step, duty ramp step
2016-04-03T13:45:00 < rewolff1> Those do not seem to be "it".
2016-04-03T13:45:36 < rewolff1> There is also "foc-> duty downramp" that I also don't think is relevant.
2016-04-03T13:46:03 < ReadError> rewolff1 jpa might be a good person to ask
2016-04-03T13:46:10 < ReadError> ive only messed with on bench so far
2016-04-03T13:47:03 < ReadError> stfu
2016-04-03T13:48:25 < ReadError> go nuck yourself m8
2016-04-03T13:49:40 < dongs> shitty mobile CPU in that nuc
2016-04-03T13:49:42 < dongs> uselesss as fuq
2016-04-03T13:49:49 < dongs> that wont even run altium properly
2016-04-03T13:49:59 < dongs> i mean it will, it will just chug badly
2016-04-03T13:51:54 < dongs> do you even need it to be small
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2016-04-03T14:00:17 < Steffanx> No longer enough space in aussieland?
2016-04-03T14:00:58 < Steffanx> Yo momma.
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2016-04-03T14:08:04 < jpa-> rewolff1: yeah, vedder gets way too many questions to answer them all
2016-04-03T14:08:29 < Steffanx> youtube em mr. crt
2016-04-03T14:08:37 < jpa-> and the VESC parameters are pretty complex and confusing
2016-04-03T14:08:53 < jpa-> i ended up just making custom esc code for my ebike
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2016-04-03T14:15:53 < rewolff1> ReadError, jpa: thanks for the help! It runs!
2016-04-03T14:16:10 < rewolff1> The parameter is "duty ramp step (at 1 kHz)"
2016-04-03T14:16:35 < ReadError> jpa- wrote esc code from scratch?
2016-04-03T14:16:54 < rewolff1> jpa- wrote esc code from scratch?
2016-04-03T14:17:16 < rewolff1> :-)
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2016-04-03T14:21:35 < dongs> sensored ESC is super easy to do
2016-04-03T14:21:46 < dongs> its like 50 lines of code for a dumb one
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2016-04-03T14:22:11 < dongs> and you get most of the advanced stuff for free with TIM1/TIM8
2016-04-03T14:23:30 < dongs> what the fuck since when does win10 require "signing in to your account" to download updates
2016-04-03T14:23:40 < PeterM> it doesn't?
2016-04-03T14:23:49 < dongs> i just got an error about that
2016-04-03T14:23:52 < dongs> running updates
2016-04-03T14:24:01 < dongs> 'some updates failed to download because you weren't signed into your account'
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2016-04-03T14:24:16 < dongs> but i just hit retryand it sowrking so i guess it was just something dumb
2016-04-03T14:24:18 < rewolff1> They are not monitoring you in anyway.
2016-04-03T14:24:49 < jpa-> dongs: yeah
2016-04-03T14:24:57 < jpa-> i did FOC but still trivial simple
2016-04-03T14:27:02 < PeterM> yeah and coonsidering with the f4 you're essentially trying to water your potplants with a firehose...
2016-04-03T14:28:07 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-03T14:28:09 < dongs> alt0tab is brokenb
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2016-04-03T14:33:19 < dongs> your device is up today
2016-04-03T14:33:23 < dongs> er, up to date rather
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2016-04-03T14:36:42 < dongs> yes
2016-04-03T14:36:43 < dongs> finally
2016-04-03T14:36:54 < dongs> time to checkout freelancer
2016-04-03T14:37:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/SUB-STATION-PROTECTION-AND-CONTROL/
2016-04-03T14:37:52 < dongs> lol
2016-04-03T14:38:15 < dongs> 66KV substation "protection" design for $250
2016-04-03T14:42:16 < PeterM> who is offering it?
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2016-04-03T14:42:36 < PeterM> i mean, if its someone in india wanting to buy protection
2016-04-03T14:42:55 < dongs> Egyot
2016-04-03T14:43:21 < dongs> employer in egypt
2016-04-03T14:43:33 < dongs> offers from pakistan, sri lanka, india
2016-04-03T14:43:35 < PeterM> if it was for india, i'd get them to do a stepup transofrmer, maybe 5x and then run the cable around the substation, the substation is protected from people trying to steal your lectricity
2016-04-03T14:44:15 < dongs> lol copper theft
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2016-04-03T14:44:51 < PeterM> eyoo try steap the copper when its at 600kv
2016-04-03T14:47:05 < BrainDamage> we got a wave of gypsies in italy and they've started stealing copper
2016-04-03T14:49:44 < BrainDamage> they steal copper cables from the underground trains btw, electrified at 10kv
2016-04-03T14:53:31 < PeterM> 10kv is fine, kitchen gloves will keep you safe
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2016-04-03T14:54:13 < PeterM> beyond about 50kv fiberglass poles are needed though
2016-04-03T14:54:30 < PeterM> that is for low impedance supplies
2016-04-03T14:54:46 < mitrax_> kitchen gloves? really?
2016-04-03T14:55:00 < PeterM> i dont mean the small latex things
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2016-04-03T14:55:58 < PeterM> http://www.unicaregroup.com/assets/modules/pcm/products/192/images/thumb_primeco_mapa_green.jpg these kinda gloves
2016-04-03T14:55:58 < mitrax_> crt: eh funny i was about to tell something about a crt
2016-04-03T14:56:28 < mitrax_> crt: 25 years ago a friend of mine cut the wire between a crt and the crt transformer
2016-04-03T14:56:51 < mitrax_> with a cutting pliers that was supposedly isolated
2016-04-03T14:56:55 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-03T14:57:08 < mitrax_> >0.5mm thick yellow rubber
2016-04-03T14:57:13 < PeterM> hed ahve probably gotten a burn
2016-04-03T14:57:30 < PeterM> not life threatening, just fuckign painful
2016-04-03T14:57:41 < mitrax_> he made a big jump against a whole and the rubber which was yellow initially turned blue where his fingers were
2016-04-03T14:57:45 < mitrax_> err against a WALL
2016-04-03T14:58:23 < mitrax_> not dark blue or anything but you could clearly see the hue changed
2016-04-03T14:58:25 < mitrax_> no
2016-04-03T14:58:37 < mitrax_> it was off so he assumed he was safe
2016-04-03T14:58:46 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-03T14:59:39 < mitrax_> it did for a bit :)
2016-04-03T15:00:06 < PeterM> standard practice is get a well safety rated screwdriver, put a crock clip on the end, clip it to a 470ohm power resistor, tie the power resistor to part of the chassis, and stick it under the cap of the HT
2016-04-03T15:00:23 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Detailed-technical-drawings-for-new/
2016-04-03T15:00:26 < dongs> wat
2016-04-03T15:01:13 < dongs> like who designs a new car on dicklancer
2016-04-03T15:01:32 < PeterM> probably some chinese car clone company
2016-04-03T15:01:39 < dongs> supposedly norway
2016-04-03T15:01:41 < PeterM> actually, even they wouldnt
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2016-04-03T15:02:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/espenkvalvik.html
2016-04-03T15:02:14 < dongs> wtf
2016-04-03T15:02:16 < dongs> its this guy
2016-04-03T15:02:22 < BrainDamage> it's zyp's future car
2016-04-03T15:02:28 < dongs> its probably just zyp
2016-04-03T15:02:31 < dongs> tryin to troll me
2016-04-03T15:02:57 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresco_Norway
2016-04-03T15:03:09 < dongs> http://www.frescomotors.com/#!about/cmmhf
2016-04-03T15:03:30 < dongs> The company’s products are powerful electric cars and every new model is aimed to be more affordable to the masses.
2016-04-03T15:03:35 < dongs> totally zyp's secretproj
2016-04-03T15:04:00 < dongs> hes making the DIN rail charger thing for them
2016-04-03T15:04:45 < PeterM> charge your electric car by usb
2016-04-03T15:05:26 < dongs> News
2016-04-03T15:05:26 < dongs> 1/1/2020
2016-04-03T15:05:27 < dongs> Designs for the first car is finished...
2016-04-03T15:05:27 < dongs> ...and it looks like an early christmas!
2016-04-03T15:05:28 < dongs> It's been many years, but the first car is finally designed. It's going to be one hundred percent electric and autonomous. The car will also contain two elements which, up to now, is classified. 300 miles per charge.
2016-04-03T15:05:29 < PeterM> with usb 3 it would only take like... a month to charge the tesla model 3
2016-04-03T15:05:34 < dongs> at least they have a reasonable timeline
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2016-04-03T15:06:11 < dongs> zyp: comment on trollmotors plz
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2016-04-03T15:10:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/need-for-experience-coder-who/
2016-04-03T15:11:42 < PeterM> wut
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2016-04-03T16:01:55 < upgrdman> i know this sounds dumb, but anyone know of a nice high power usb light? like a 10W (2A) fucker.
2016-04-03T16:04:04 < PeterM> do you need ti as a load or as a light?
2016-04-03T16:04:10 < upgrdman> as a light
2016-04-03T16:04:18 < upgrdman> pref'ly on a gooseneck
2016-04-03T16:04:42 < PeterM> no idea, however, if oyu get one of the ikea gooseneck led lamps you can probably mod it nicely
2016-04-03T16:04:42 < upgrdman> the ikea looks neat, but is dim as fuck
2016-04-03T16:04:51 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-03T16:04:52 < upgrdman> ya i might go that route
2016-04-03T16:05:07 < PeterM> 10w is a lot to dissipate remember
2016-04-03T16:05:31 < upgrdman> "caution: case is hot" ... problem solved.
2016-04-03T16:05:46 < PeterM> i run 15w through 2x 30w leds (so each at 7.5w) and they get pretty hot on a heatsink with no fan
2016-04-03T16:06:19 < PeterM> 10w into that ikea lamp and you'd stark lifting paint
2016-04-03T16:06:23 < PeterM> start
2016-04-03T16:06:26 < upgrdman> hehe i remember the 100W led i made a boost converter for. put the led on a huge ass heatsink and the shit still got fucking toasty
2016-04-03T16:06:50 < PeterM> i'd probably get a 30w LED and under drive it
2016-04-03T16:06:59 < upgrdman> mhmmm
2016-04-03T16:07:03 < PeterM> easier to get the heat out
2016-04-03T16:07:14 < PeterM> those 3w LEDs are  a cunt to get the heat out from
2016-04-03T16:07:20 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-03T16:07:27 < PeterM> and if you want 10w....
2016-04-03T16:08:14 < dongs> ya, lights fucing suc
2016-04-03T16:08:26 < dongs> random led lamp i bought at shop was dim as shit
2016-04-03T16:08:40 < dongs> just buy enclosure and trash the leds and replace with your own stuff
2016-04-03T16:09:57 < dongs> also asshole desk lamps that use blueish-white leds
2016-04-03T16:10:00 < dongs> instead of warm white
2016-04-03T16:10:28 < upgrdman> hmmm i wonder if the ikea clamp led light is powered by a universal brick of its custom for 120v or 240v
2016-04-03T16:10:36 < upgrdman> s/of/if
2016-04-03T16:10:52 < PeterM> i think its like 5v plugpack + resistor or osmething
2016-04-03T16:10:53 < upgrdman> s/of/or
2016-04-03T16:11:00 < upgrdman> hmmm
2016-04-03T16:11:07 < dongs> shit ive seen was just a fucking USB connector
2016-04-03T16:11:11 < PeterM> do you want to buy for .cn use or for back home use?
2016-04-03T16:11:15 < dongs> going into a wallbrick
2016-04-03T16:11:27 < upgrdman> cn
2016-04-03T16:11:35 < upgrdman> fucking office lighting in cn is a joke
2016-04-03T16:11:38 < dongs> looks like youll be in cn fora while
2016-04-03T16:11:42 < PeterM> you should have no problems findinig LED shits then
2016-04-03T16:11:43 < upgrdman> makes me rage so hard
2016-04-03T16:11:53 < dongs> just get some led bars
2016-04-03T16:11:57 < dongs> stick them on wood
2016-04-03T16:12:02 < dongs> and hook that shit up to a smps
2016-04-03T16:12:09 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-03T16:12:10 < dongs> its not like they;ll care about power consumption etc there
2016-04-03T16:12:56 < dongs> o well time to bed
2016-04-03T16:13:00 < PeterM> jsut make sure yo ugo with a local when shopping for electronics in shanghai, they wiull rip you off something cronic unlike SZ
2016-04-03T16:13:06 < upgrdman> but srsly, lighting in cn is such fucking shit. dim as fuck ~everywhere, and they LOVE blue ass daylight light (6500+K)
2016-04-03T16:13:15 < dongs> haha
2016-04-03T16:13:17 < dongs> terrible
2016-04-03T16:13:42 < upgrdman> all they use the shittest CFLs that take like 20 minutes to reach full brightness
2016-04-03T16:13:43 < PeterM> tbh i kinda like coolwhite too, but thats because i usually spend all my time outside, so its easier on my eyes
2016-04-03T16:13:56 < dongs> psh
2016-04-03T16:14:00 < dongs> outside!?
2016-04-03T16:14:03 < dongs> the fuck is tht
2016-04-03T16:14:16 < upgrdman> i like 3500-4000K
2016-04-03T16:14:19 < dongs> i only vape indoors
2016-04-03T16:15:17 < upgrdman> and ya, im not buying a light from some cn vendor. its fucking ~impossible to get quality here
2016-04-03T16:15:34 < upgrdman> its like cheap shit, or overpriced decent shit that they feel is a luxuory
2016-04-03T16:15:51 < dongs> take a local flight to sz
2016-04-03T16:15:55 < dongs> and pickout some led bars
2016-04-03T16:16:17 < dongs> k bedtime
2016-04-03T16:16:20 < upgrdman> i'll just amazon some shit to cali, and bring it back to cn on my next flight
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2016-04-03T16:17:01 < upgrdman> which reminds me, amazon.cn ... lolwut. fucking trash.
2016-04-03T16:17:40 < upgrdman> seems like ~every vendor on cn is just a dropship organizer
2016-04-03T16:17:43 < PeterM> oh if you'r gonna do that, get standard incandescant desk lamp, take out incandescant bulb, put in quality LED downlight, fuckign done
2016-04-03T16:18:33 < upgrdman> but LED bulbs are not universal? e.g. cali bulb might pop in cn
2016-04-03T16:18:59 < PeterM> i mean like shit that you'd be from an electrical wholesaler that sparkys go to, not chink shit
2016-04-03T16:19:20 < PeterM> and not led buld, liek actual LED downlight
2016-04-03T16:19:39 < PeterM> liek the things with the heatsinks and shti and drivers built in
2016-04-03T16:19:45 < upgrdman> oh
2016-04-03T16:19:49 < PeterM> it'll tkae like 2 screws to attach
2016-04-03T16:20:01 < PeterM> and itll work and itll last
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2016-04-03T16:21:53 < upgrdman> i kinda feel like trolling my coworkers and bringing one of these big fuckers to work  http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70216544/
2016-04-03T16:22:10 < upgrdman> or 3
2016-04-03T16:23:20 < PeterM> dude, troll your coworkers, bring a 400w metal halide highbay light to work
2016-04-03T16:23:52 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-03T16:24:31 < PeterM> actually... you may be able to find a decent led highbay light there
2016-04-03T16:31:28 < Sync> o0 upgrdman
2016-04-03T16:31:34 < upgrdman> ?
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2016-04-03T16:35:55 < upgrdman> 0o Sync
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2016-04-03T16:37:07 < PeterM> 0.o
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2016-04-03T16:53:20 < upgrdman> wtf. does qualcomm make anything they sell direct to consumers?
2016-04-03T16:53:29 < upgrdman> fucking qualcomm commercials on tv here in cn
2016-04-03T16:53:34 < upgrdman> like wtf, why
2016-04-03T16:53:47 < PeterM> iirc only dev systems
2016-04-03T16:54:08 < PeterM> they have platform dev targets, like tablets and phoens for their latest SOC
2016-04-03T16:54:50 < upgrdman> ya. i wonder why theyre spending money to advertice on cn tv then
2016-04-03T16:54:57 < upgrdman> at 10pm too
2016-04-03T16:55:27 < PeterM> dunno, lots of engies?
2016-04-03T16:56:18 < upgrdman> maybe, but im not in shenzhen
2016-04-03T16:56:29 < Getty> i think there is a kinda group of very old people who feel qualcomm is a big player like microsoft
2016-04-03T16:56:36 < Getty> and the spots should remind the people that they exist ;)
2016-04-03T16:57:52 < lorenzo> I want Motorola ads on tv
2016-04-03T16:58:05 < lorenzo> just to make sure they still exist
2016-04-03T16:58:08 < lorenzo> :(
2016-04-03T16:58:34 < PeterM> they dont
2016-04-03T16:58:37 < PeterM> thats lenobo
2016-04-03T16:58:40 < PeterM> bro
2016-04-03T17:00:20 < Getty> but isnt it fascinating that qualcomm still exist? they can be proud ;)
2016-04-03T17:00:47 < lorenzo> PeterM: nah, not the iphone bullshit, the real radio engineers who made interesting frontends for ptp bridges
2016-04-03T17:00:57 < lorenzo> I think Ubiquiti "bought" all the team
2016-04-03T17:01:07 < lorenzo> they're left with the TRBO shit
2016-04-03T17:02:05 < Lux> upgrdman: what was the commercial about ?
2016-04-03T17:02:19 < Lux> i think they don't even sell their dev systems directly
2016-04-03T17:02:25 < lorenzo> in fact the first half-decent Ubiquiti products (their TDMA for gbit links on 24 GHz) came out after Motorola came in
2016-04-03T17:02:29 < Lux> intrinsic does that
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2016-04-03T17:04:22 < upgrdman> Lux, its just a bunch of abstract 10 second commercials.
2016-04-03T17:04:27 < upgrdman> and i dont understand chinese
2016-04-03T17:04:29 < upgrdman> but
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2016-04-03T17:04:45 < upgrdman> it feels like a "making life better" type of marketing wank
2016-04-03T17:04:51 < Lux> ah ok
2016-04-03T17:04:58 < Lux> so like getting the name out there
2016-04-03T17:05:07 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-03T17:05:46 < PeterM> lorenzo, ahh, yeah, ubiquiti did snatch up all the moto staff that were in their RF bussiness
2016-04-03T17:05:56 < PeterM> good shit too
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2016-04-03T17:33:20 < mitrax_> ah the version of fatfs i was using was indeed broken
2016-04-03T17:33:42 < mitrax_> greetings to ST for bundling a 2 years old buggy version with their stm32cube shit
2016-04-03T17:34:00 < mitrax_> err i mean congrats
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2016-04-03T17:51:41 < Steffanx> lol mitrax_
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2016-04-03T17:54:33 < specialcharacter> Hi
2016-04-03T17:54:57 < specialcharacter> is STM32F7 Discovery using ucLinux in its demo?
2016-04-03T17:55:05 < specialcharacter> If not, what is it then?
2016-04-03T17:55:42 < Steffanx> isnt it some emwin stuff?
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2016-04-03T17:58:51 < Steffanx> Hmm, did ST really keep the old website online as well this time? Or did they do that after complaints ..
2016-04-03T17:59:07 < Steffanx> www2 vs www
2016-04-03T17:59:47 < specialcharacter> Steffanx: it looks like you are right. " STemWin, a professional graphical stack solution available in binary format and based on the emWin solution"
2016-04-03T17:59:51 < specialcharacter> Thanks
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2016-04-03T18:01:32 < Steffanx> You can download the source of it if you want to specialcharacter
2016-04-03T18:01:43 < Steffanx> ( of the demo that is )
2016-04-03T18:01:49 < Steffanx> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/PF259429#
2016-04-03T18:02:31 < Steffanx> Looking through the files shortly it seems its freertos
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2016-04-03T18:05:27 < Thorn> so th2822 is not based on the cyrustek chipset. it actually seems to be the same or similar design as the applent at825 (but no color tft display)
2016-04-03T18:05:52 < specialcharacter> Steffanx: Damn.. so choice now will be even harder. I'm considering using stm32 or beaglebone for my project (LCD + GSM module). I'm quite familiar with linux, but not so much in bare metal, but also wanted to try uClinux or Freertos
2016-04-03T18:06:38 < ReadError> seems like 2 very different things
2016-04-03T18:07:03 < Thorn> freertos is just tasks queues and timers, no drivers or APIs
2016-04-03T18:07:30 < Thorn> definitely not posix compatible
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2016-04-03T18:08:17 < mitrax_> specialcharacter: is that for work or a personal project with no deadline?
2016-04-03T18:08:30 < specialcharacter> mitrax_: personal project
2016-04-03T18:08:40 < specialcharacter> just to learn things
2016-04-03T18:08:46 < mitrax_> specialcharacter: then i'd give baremetal a try, you will learn plenty
2016-04-03T18:10:33 < specialcharacter> mitrax_: should I try uClinux on F7 discovery board? I was told this project is not so actively developed actually
2016-04-03T18:10:42 < mitrax_> nah
2016-04-03T18:11:08 < trepidacious> specialcharacter: Try ChibiOS?
2016-04-03T18:11:33 < ReadError> chibios+ugfx ?
2016-04-03T18:11:48 < trepidacious> specialcharacter: I wouldn't personally run linux on an F7, ChibiOS will be much better for realtime stuff, and a SoC with real linux will be much better for higher level stuff
2016-04-03T18:11:49 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREc67WIdgM&feature=youtu.be
2016-04-03T18:12:15 < trepidacious> ReadError: Yup sounds good
2016-04-03T18:12:32 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-03T18:12:54 < zyp> if you insist on running linux it's better to get some cortex-a5 chip or something
2016-04-03T18:14:29 < specialcharacter> Thanks guys. I'll try with chibios and ugfx as soon as I get my f7disco :)
2016-04-03T18:14:44 < mitrax_> specialcharacter: if you go the stm32 way use a rtos such as chibios, freertos and some libs such libopencm3. At some point you may decide you need a more powerful platform with a full fledged OS etc, but you'll have gained some experience from it
2016-04-03T18:16:18 < trepidacious> specialcharacter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga1wVUcCJB8
2016-04-03T18:16:20 < Thorn> what about all those new fancy IoT OSes, anyone tried those?
2016-04-03T18:16:36 < trepidacious> specialcharacter: I need to get an f7 disco too, they look great :)
2016-04-03T18:16:54 < Thorn> brillo, contiki, riot, ...
2016-04-03T18:17:20 < Thorn> do they even run on rpi etc
2016-04-03T18:19:10 < specialcharacter> mitrax_: noted, thanks:)
2016-04-03T18:19:29 < specialcharacter> trepidacious: great movie. Looks like ugfx is what I need
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2016-04-03T19:35:50 < Laurenceb_> contiki is a disaster zone
2016-04-03T19:35:58 < Laurenceb_> its like the arduino of RTOS
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2016-04-03T19:49:15 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: have you had the opportunity to test the range of those SP1ML modules yet?
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2016-04-03T19:52:16 < Steffanx> Whats wrong w ith contiki Laurenceb_?
2016-04-03T19:52:52 < Laurenceb_> mitrax_: nope been too busy with Qt
2016-04-03T19:52:56 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: does contiki even try to be realtime?
2016-04-03T19:53:03 < Laurenceb_> Steffanx: its a disorganised clusterfuck
2016-04-03T19:53:08 < Laurenceb_> probably not
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2016-04-03T19:55:01 < jpa-> contiki seems a bit like nuttx.. lots of features, not so clear what works and what doesn't and how
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2016-04-03T19:56:38 < Laurenceb_> yeah only its even more disorganised than nuttx
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2016-04-03T20:52:06 < zyp> dongs, looks like bullshit all over
2016-04-03T20:53:08 < zyp> dongs, there's no «fresco motors» or anything in the norwegian company registry, and the guy is apparently a marketing student
2016-04-03T20:53:38 < Sync> yeah well, that's pretty obv
2016-04-03T20:53:47 < Sync> 1200km range and 2 years of dev time
2016-04-03T20:53:52 < Sync> good luck with that
2016-04-03T20:54:14 < zyp> well, that too :)
2016-04-03T20:54:30 < Sync> I mean 1200km wouldn't be unreasonable but uh
2016-04-03T20:54:46 < Sync> developing a car platform in 2 years is pretty unreasonable
2016-04-03T20:56:04 < zyp> 1200km is fairly unreasonable with todays battery tech
2016-04-03T20:56:04 < Laurenceb_> 1200km electric car?!
2016-04-03T20:56:40 < zyp> not impossible, but not very useful either
2016-04-03T20:57:33 < Laurenceb_> 500km was maybe borderline possible about a year ago
2016-04-03T20:57:49 < Laurenceb_> but now Tesla has got all Panasonics capacity
2016-04-03T20:58:00 < Laurenceb_> so the best cells arent even available any more
2016-04-03T21:00:09 < Laurenceb_> The first model can run 1500 km per charge
2016-04-03T21:00:11 < Laurenceb_> WTF
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2016-04-03T21:00:49 < Sync> not if you put like 3 tons of batteries in the car zyp :P
2016-04-03T21:00:55 < Sync> and have like a 20kW motor
2016-04-03T21:01:08 < Laurenceb_> lol
2016-04-03T21:01:27 < Laurenceb_> with 900kg of batteries I get about 500km max range
2016-04-03T21:03:02 < zyp> I thought tesla could do 500km in good conditions
2016-04-03T21:03:28 < zyp> the models with the largest batteries, I mean
2016-04-03T21:06:50 < Laurenceb_> I was scaling the official Tesla range
2016-04-03T21:06:57 < Laurenceb_> I dunno lol
2016-04-03T21:07:06 < Laurenceb_> more than 500km looks pretty impossible
2016-04-03T21:07:17 < zyp> impossible in what sense?
2016-04-03T21:07:44 < Laurenceb_> the car ends up being a pile of batteries with a passenger attached
2016-04-03T21:08:18 < zyp> sure, that's why I say not impossible, but not very useful either :p
2016-04-03T21:09:48 < Steffanx> When we'll have the first emdrive car Laurenceb_?
2016-04-03T21:10:10 < Sync> I mean, take a sprinter van and load it up with 3 tons of batteries ;)
2016-04-03T21:11:25 < Laurenceb_> lol
2016-04-03T21:11:55 < Laurenceb_> Steffanx: Emdrive is slowly turning into another eestor or steorn
2016-04-03T21:12:10 < Laurenceb_> I was hoping for an epic exposure of fakery
2016-04-03T21:12:18 < englishman> lol steorn
2016-04-03T21:12:28 < Laurenceb_> but instead its just slowly looking more and more fake, boring
2016-04-03T21:13:01 < Laurenceb_> Steorn and EEstor were similar, I could have been funny if someone exposed it as fake at the beginning, but the truth came out slowly and it was ultra boring
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2016-04-03T21:14:31 < Laurenceb_> although with EEstor and Steorn it takes < 5 minutes to show they are fake
2016-04-03T21:14:40 < Laurenceb_> there is a fudged equation in the EEstor patent
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2016-04-03T21:15:53 < Laurenceb_> Steorn you can see they extract magnetic potential energy from the published data
2016-04-03T21:16:48 < Laurenceb_> it's looking like emdrive was faked using crazy high power ceiling fans
2016-04-03T21:17:03 < Laurenceb_> that counterrotating helicopter type thing in the video
2016-04-03T21:17:27 < englishman> i thought that was one of his 'experiments'
2016-04-03T21:17:30 < Sync> o0
2016-04-03T21:18:07 < Laurenceb_> I need to create my own fake technology
2016-04-03T21:18:29 < BrainDamage> you need marketing skills for that, not technical
2016-04-03T21:18:44 < Laurenceb_> its obviously the way to get rich, Shawyer has >£1M investment
2016-04-03T21:20:38 < englishman> surely horse telemetry is worth more than that
2016-04-03T21:20:41 < Laurenceb_> even Elon Musk does fake technologies - Hyperloop
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2016-04-03T22:06:28 < Martin90> what do you use to generate high frequency clock
2016-04-03T22:06:30 < Martin90> ?
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2016-04-03T22:17:38 < Steffanx> Define high
2016-04-03T22:17:52 < Fleck> PLL usually :D
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2016-04-04T00:11:08 < kakimir> hello sexuals
2016-04-04T00:16:12 < zyp> sup, asexual?
2016-04-04T00:18:04 < Martin90> is it recommended to use HAL drivers ?
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2016-04-04T00:20:26 < kakimir> how you feel
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2016-04-04T00:20:49 < Martin90> does it matter ?
2016-04-04T00:21:29 < kakimir> it can make project more complicated than it should be
2016-04-04T00:22:19 < Martin90> hmm in assumtion it should make things simpler, shouldn't it ?
2016-04-04T00:22:26 < kakimir> but it can be huge productivity gain of course in terms of project timeline
2016-04-04T00:23:03 < Martin90> hmm what di you mean by timelin here ?
2016-04-04T00:23:17 < Martin90> fatser deployment ?
2016-04-04T00:23:26 < kakimir> don't you think?
2016-04-04T00:24:14 < kakimir> some puritans preffer to write their own handlers
2016-04-04T00:24:25 < kakimir> to everything
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2016-04-04T00:24:58 < kakimir> of course it's an aproach to things when you want and absolutelly need to understand 100% what is going on
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2016-04-04T00:26:02 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/zsCHkEH.jpg
2016-04-04T00:26:55 < Martin90> kakimir, so what's the conclusion HAL or no ? :P
2016-04-04T00:28:03 < kakimir> no conclusions
2016-04-04T00:29:24 < Martin90> you mention own handler, what is the minimal lib/driver we need to be able to write all initialization independently ?
2016-04-04T00:31:20 < Laurenceb_> http://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3176&context=space-congress-proceedings
2016-04-04T00:31:27 < Laurenceb_> Hyperloop prior art
2016-04-04T00:33:08 < Sync> neat
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2016-04-04T00:34:33 < Laurenceb_> or you could just use conventional rails
2016-04-04T00:34:50 < Laurenceb_> Bombardier have made >500km/h rail bogies
2016-04-04T00:35:09 < Laurenceb_> and still run in a tube with mini "cars"
2016-04-04T00:35:25 < ReadError> in a vacuum?
2016-04-04T00:36:09 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-04T00:36:28 < ReadError> how low do they pull it
2016-04-04T00:36:37 < Laurenceb_> the airflow "issue" Musk is obsessed with is a non issue if you have interconnect
2016-04-04T00:36:46 < Laurenceb_> you know... like the channel tunnel uses
2016-04-04T00:36:50  * Laurenceb_ facepalms
2016-04-04T00:36:58 < Laurenceb_> about 250 to 500Pa
2016-04-04T00:38:17 < Sync> or you just run 500km/h in air
2016-04-04T00:39:19 < Laurenceb_> yes lol
2016-04-04T00:39:34 < Laurenceb_> pantographs dont seem to work above about 300km/h
2016-04-04T00:39:49 < Laurenceb_> with a tube you could run +-20kV down the rails
2016-04-04T00:40:35 < Laurenceb_> China high speed rail (designed by Bombardier) was run at 300km/h but they had too many issues with the pantograph
2016-04-04T00:40:43 < Laurenceb_> IIRC it was reduced to 280 or something
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2016-04-04T00:41:05 < Laurenceb_> also noisy and uses tons of power
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2016-04-04T00:42:22 < Laurenceb_> then there is the question of whether anyone actually cares about the speed - market elasticity and so on
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2016-04-04T00:42:49 < Sync> Laurenceb_: tell that the tgv
2016-04-04T00:42:56 < Sync> they did 540km/h with a panto iirc
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2016-04-04T00:43:15 < Laurenceb_> yeah and it was obliterated
2016-04-04T00:43:24 < Sync> the ICE has no problems with it
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2016-04-04T00:44:06 < Laurenceb_> interesting
2016-04-04T00:44:21 < BrainDamage> italy high speed trains run at 350km/h regularry with no issues
2016-04-04T00:45:49 < Sync> also pfft bombardier
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2016-04-04T00:46:04 < Laurenceb_> maybe I remembered wrong
2016-04-04T00:46:12 < Laurenceb_> I think I was out by 60km/h
2016-04-04T00:46:36 < Laurenceb_>  In July 2011, however, top train speeds were lowered to 300 km/h (186 mph).
2016-04-04T00:46:56 < Laurenceb_> yeah they were _lowered to _ 300km/h
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2016-04-04T00:49:13 < Laurenceb_> so realistically hyperloop would only be about twice as fast as fastest high speed rail
2016-04-04T00:49:19 < Laurenceb_> seems a bit boring lol :D
2016-04-04T00:50:26 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail#/media/File:TGV_World_Speed_Record_574_km_per_hour.jpg
2016-04-04T00:50:31 < Laurenceb_> see arc on the pantograph
2016-04-04T00:51:11 < zyp> what would construction cost on hyperloop be vs maglev?
2016-04-04T00:51:42 < Laurenceb_> prob cheaper than maglev
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2016-04-04T00:55:42 < zyp> the japanese maglev shinkansen seems pretty decent
2016-04-04T00:55:53 < Sync> yeah but it is fast as heck at that point Laurenceb_ :D
2016-04-04T00:56:49 < Sync> also notice the super high number of sleepers
2016-04-04T00:57:13 < BrainDamage> the travelling wave deformation of the line in front of the pantograph looks pretty cool
2016-04-04T00:59:52 < Laurenceb_> wow thats some serious deformation
2016-04-04T01:06:42 < FatalNIX> What is that blasted website that you can throw a bunch of food at it you got in your fridge / pantry et cand tells you what you can make with it?
2016-04-04T01:07:19 < Laurenceb_> WTF did you just say?
2016-04-04T01:07:50 < FatalNIX> What is that blasted website that you can throw a bunch of food at it you got in your fridge / pantry et cand tells you what you can make with it?
2016-04-04T01:07:53 < FatalNIX> trololo
2016-04-04T01:07:58 < FatalNIX> (you said what did I just say)
2016-04-04T01:08:18 < BrainDamage> supercook.com, also, be more coherent please
2016-04-04T01:09:46 < FatalNIX> BrainDamage: chill I was just teasing :P
2016-04-04T01:20:58 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/gallery/FWvFz wall papers
2016-04-04T01:22:19 < kakimir> for your amiga
2016-04-04T01:23:38 < kakimir> is there even any good one
2016-04-04T01:23:46 < kakimir> are you guys now into trains?
2016-04-04T01:27:37 < englishman> hmm, having two st DfUsE Demo instances open at the same time causes bsod
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2016-04-04T01:57:25 < kakimir> why.. have 2?
2016-04-04T01:58:45 < Laurenceb_> mistake
2016-04-04T01:59:18 < Laurenceb_> I'm not saying you were a mistake
2016-04-04T02:00:49 < kakimir> :P
2016-04-04T02:03:01 < kakimir> full of what?
2016-04-04T02:05:32 < kakimir> sounds actually good idea
2016-04-04T02:05:42 < kakimir> 3phase kettle
2016-04-04T02:05:49 < kakimir> 10kW
2016-04-04T02:06:52 < BrainDamage> 30s assuming no losses
2016-04-04T02:08:06 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-04T02:08:50 < BrainDamage> 10kW will rise 1L by 80°C in approx 30s assuming the losses from the kettle walls are negligible
2016-04-04T02:09:18 < kakimir> that sounds pretty much what it should be'
2016-04-04T02:09:42 < kakimir> 30seconds - litre of stimulant
2016-04-04T02:11:24 < BrainDamage> you could improve on that
2016-04-04T02:11:42 < BrainDamage> replace the 3 phase supply with a radiothermal nuclear source
2016-04-04T02:12:08 < kakimir> I was thinking something chemical approach
2016-04-04T02:12:22 < kakimir> literally explode the water hot
2016-04-04T02:15:54 < kakimir> google must be playing a joke on me
2016-04-04T02:16:56 < kakimir> it adstorms me some baby shitters
2016-04-04T02:17:05 < kakimir> and it doesn't turn off
2016-04-04T02:18:20 < saph0> bah , back to kettles
2016-04-04T02:19:25 < saph0> water is tricky to heat too fast due to the steam bubbles created close to the heat source right ?
2016-04-04T02:20:05 < saph0> so maybe under very low pressure , could be forced to boil much faster ?
2016-04-04T02:20:35 < saph0> too slow
2016-04-04T02:20:54 < kakimir> just pump it hard
2016-04-04T02:21:15 < kakimir> keep it pressurised of keep it moving
2016-04-04T02:21:18 < kakimir> *or
2016-04-04T02:21:21 < kakimir> or both
2016-04-04T02:22:05 < saph0> water behaves like a solid above certain pressure
2016-04-04T02:22:49 < saph0> maybe really powerful magnetron is the way forward ?
2016-04-04T02:23:25 < Thorn> good idea? http://www.tme.eu/en/details/bm857s/portable-digital-multimeters/brymen/ http://www.tme.eu/en/details/bm867/portable-digital-multimeters/brymen/bm867s/
2016-04-04T02:24:25 < Thorn> there's even an eevblog themed brymen model (a cheaper one)
2016-04-04T02:24:50 < Thorn> https://www.eevblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/BM235-EEVblog-Face-50.jpg
2016-04-04T02:25:03 < kakimir> maybe you could have such rotor inside water tank
2016-04-04T02:25:09 < saph0> Thorn: nice, shame about the price ..
2016-04-04T02:25:37 < kakimir> hey guys
2016-04-04T02:25:44 < kakimir> preheated water tank
2016-04-04T02:25:59 < saph0> good thinking kakimir
2016-04-04T02:26:02 < kakimir> end of discussion
2016-04-04T02:26:08 < Thorn> is that price binary?
2016-04-04T02:27:13 < saph0> Thorn: which price ?
2016-04-04T02:27:19 < kakimir> uni-t is nice
2016-04-04T02:27:36 < kakimir> get scopemeter for 130 or so
2016-04-04T02:27:40 < saph0> bm867?
2016-04-04T02:28:03 < Thorn> saph0: $1010.00 for fluke 87-5
2016-04-04T02:29:10 < saph0> Thorn: i don't think they issue binary $
2016-04-04T02:29:49 < Thorn> great, convert to decimal $ -> only $9
2016-04-04T02:29:59 < Thorn> *$10
2016-04-04T02:30:43 < saph0> it's 6 bits wide .., no float in decimal
2016-04-04T02:30:58 < saph0> 40$
2016-04-04T02:31:08 < saph0> still a bargain
2016-04-04T02:31:36 < saph0> dunno, just coz
2016-04-04T02:32:58 < saph0> *binary
2016-04-04T02:35:04 < Thorn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_point
2016-04-04T02:35:53 < kakimir> I think uni-t scopemeter price has gone up
2016-04-04T02:41:04 < Thorn> what do accuracy figures such as ±(0.8% + 40 digits) mean btw?
2016-04-04T02:42:19 < dongs> sup fresco motors employees
2016-04-04T02:43:22 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PADS-Layout-Personnal-Assistant/https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PADS-Layout-Personnal-Assistant/
2016-04-04T02:43:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PADS-Layout-Personnal-Assistant/
2016-04-04T02:43:29 < dongs> shitty doublepaste
2016-04-04T02:44:06 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/fcharland.html
2016-04-04T02:44:09 < dongs> emplyer
2016-04-04T02:45:10 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Spectrophotometer-Raspberry/
2016-04-04T02:46:15 < kakimir> too much freelance spam
2016-04-04T02:46:34 < kakimir> hello dongs
2016-04-04T02:46:37 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Wireless-receiver-schematic-layout/
2016-04-04T02:46:40 < dongs> haha
2016-04-04T02:46:43 < dongs> dumb swede
2016-04-04T02:46:45 < dongs> making smartchwatch out of failmega328
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2016-04-04T02:47:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/fredrikta.html the swede. nothign intersting tho
2016-04-04T02:47:59 < Thorn> Do not waste our time. Send me blog links
2016-04-04T02:48:08 < dongs> heheh
2016-04-04T02:50:05 < dongs> winners dont drinkc ofee
2016-04-04T02:50:25 < kakimir> I think I should stop
2016-04-04T02:50:41 < kakimir> I started drinking coffee and smoking in like 2012
2016-04-04T02:51:33 < kakimir> 2013*
2016-04-04T02:51:56 < kakimir> keep them worst for last
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2016-04-04T02:56:30 < kakimir> only great thing about coffee was I used it to get rid of energy drinks and soda
2016-04-04T02:59:24 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzh-6ZDitQ8
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2016-04-04T03:15:14 < Thorn> dave on brymen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXu0lsOjvDs
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2016-04-04T03:37:00 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should make an anti drone missile
2016-04-04T03:37:15 < Laurenceb_> sounds like a good business plan
2016-04-04T03:37:46 < kakimir> that actually sounds like one
2016-04-04T03:37:55 < kakimir> more viable than making the drone
2016-04-04T03:38:02 < kakimir> you shoot down
2016-04-04T03:38:25 < kakimir> drones are become nuiance and security concern
2016-04-04T03:40:40 < Laurenceb_> maybe Mexico will pay me
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2016-04-04T03:43:35 < kakimir> there is that thing that it's like... missile
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2016-04-04T03:44:41 < kakimir> how does britland law say about them?
2016-04-04T03:46:16 < kakimir> I think even having it as business is tricky and unsure
2016-04-04T03:50:17 < Laurenceb_> first problem is how to spot one
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2016-04-04T03:56:43 < englishman> crt: who's your favourite australian vlogger and why is it dave jones
2016-04-04T03:58:30 < kakimir> just lock on it's transmitter
2016-04-04T03:59:16 < kakimir> in basic customer models
2016-04-04T03:59:43 < kakimir> *consumer
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2016-04-04T04:01:14 < kakimir> you have the detection and the guidance almost done
2016-04-04T04:02:01 < Thorn> must be real easy to locate a transmitter to within 10cm
2016-04-04T04:03:15 < Thorn> 2.4GHz wavelength is
2016-04-04T04:03:20 < Thorn> 120mm
2016-04-04T04:04:38 < upgrdman> i once thought about using some 2.4g modules to locate 2.4 radios just using RSSI
2016-04-04T04:04:49 < upgrdman> shit can be super sensitive,
2016-04-04T04:05:01 < upgrdman> RSSI changing a lot with just an inch distance from the tx
2016-04-04T04:05:43 < Laurenceb_> not sure how reliable that would be
2016-04-04T04:05:54 < upgrdman> prolly not very
2016-04-04T04:05:54 < Laurenceb_> audio detection
2016-04-04T04:05:57 < Laurenceb_> http://www.gras.dk/products/special-microphone/low-noise-measuring-systems/40hf.html
2016-04-04T04:06:14 < Thorn> why not a camera
2016-04-04T04:06:17 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: just have the drone kinetically destroyed?
2016-04-04T04:06:27 < Thorn> computer vision is doing wonders these days
2016-04-04T04:06:28 < kakimir> literally hit it
2016-04-04T04:06:43 < Laurenceb_> phased array of those microphones on a tethered blimp
2016-04-04T04:07:34 < Laurenceb_> should work for 500m or so
2016-04-04T04:07:45 < Laurenceb_> that would be hard with a single camera
2016-04-04T04:07:46 < kakimir> how about hiring a guy with a shotgun?
2016-04-04T04:07:50 < Laurenceb_> lol
2016-04-04T04:07:58 < Laurenceb_> camera would get false positives from birds
2016-04-04T04:08:02 < kakimir> that is how they actually handle aerial nuiance
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2016-04-04T04:08:23 < kakimir> airports andsuch
2016-04-04T04:09:06 < BrainDamage> http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/ just so i can call OLD when it's gonna be linked later
2016-04-04T04:10:57 < Thorn> Putin's press secretary already beat you to it
2016-04-04T04:11:26 < Thorn> he knew the link even before the page was created
2016-04-04T04:12:10 < Laurenceb_> freaking infographics
2016-04-04T04:12:14 < Laurenceb_> stab stab stab
2016-04-04T04:12:22 < Laurenceb_> who cares how much data
2016-04-04T04:12:35 < Laurenceb_> I can get data from /dev/random
2016-04-04T04:12:58 < BrainDamage> this is perhaps a better link http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/
2016-04-04T04:13:12 < Thorn> <video autoplay> deserves some polonium
2016-04-04T04:14:11 < Laurenceb_> Thorn is swallowing the anti Putin propaganda
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2016-04-04T04:17:17 < BrainDamage> it's gonna make a big scandal, it involves a huge set of PM, vips, and industrials
2016-04-04T04:17:36 < Laurenceb_> if I could be bothered I'd read it
2016-04-04T04:17:42 < Laurenceb_> but I don't care
2016-04-04T04:18:05 < BrainDamage> chances are you won't hear much else for a few weeks, no need to
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2016-04-04T04:23:50 < kakimir> and propably lacks handpicked persons in class above them
2016-04-04T04:25:06 < Laurenceb_> http://proceedings.spiedigitallibrary.org/proceeding.aspx?articleid=2463370
2016-04-04T04:25:17 < Laurenceb_> 250meters and can monitor people talking
2016-04-04T04:25:29 < Laurenceb_> big brother blimp :P
2016-04-04T04:27:51 < kakimir> name I have for.. diapers?
2016-04-04T04:32:35 < Thorn> brymen vs fluke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-4L2JarVxA
2016-04-04T04:38:00 < Laurenceb_> https://archive.org/stream/IndustrialSocietyAndItsFuture-TheUnabombersManifesto/IndustrialSocietyAndItsFuture-theUnabombersManifesto_djvu.txt
2016-04-04T04:38:14 < Laurenceb_> Aiui-Authorttartans Anonymous
2016-04-04T04:38:22 < Laurenceb_> original Anonymous
2016-04-04T04:43:36 < Laurenceb_> original tl;dr
2016-04-04T04:43:58 < Laurenceb_> and typed like a lunatic because lunatic
2016-04-04T04:56:41 < aandrew> is that a euphemism?
2016-04-04T05:00:22 < upgrdman> heh. just realized that when i edit my lcd font, my screen looks like one those bullshit hollywood hacker scenes. lots of 0b01100000 etc. shit
2016-04-04T05:00:44 < Laurenceb_> lol aandrew
2016-04-04T05:00:52 < Laurenceb_> up and down movement...
2016-04-04T05:01:33 < upgrdman> vhold problem, crt afterall
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2016-04-04T05:15:55 < Thorn> DAVEmeter review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywzIhnrDViQ
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2016-04-04T05:36:12 < Thorn> >100 ohm, 1/10 Watt, 0.01% Tolerance, 300 Volt
2016-04-04T05:36:33 < Thorn> how does that work? if you apply 300V to a 100 Ohm resistor it will dissipate more than 1/10W
2016-04-04T05:46:04 < Thorn> http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/118489/voltage-rating-vs-power-rating-of-a-resistor
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2016-04-04T06:05:15 < Thorn> mongolia did it?
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2016-04-04T06:13:29 < upgrdman> Thorn, maybe 300V is the breakdown voltage? e.g. arcing across if >300V. so it can tolerate short duration 300V, or long duration lower voltages
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2016-04-04T06:15:04 < upgrdman> oh just clicked your link, that sums it up too
2016-04-04T06:15:14 < Thorn> that's what the stackoverflow answer said
2016-04-04T06:15:18 < Thorn> right
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2016-04-04T06:21:11 < englishman> "Why don't all those poor people just inherit more coal?" -Gina Rinehart
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2016-04-04T08:01:46 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, zyp, Sync, i think for the majority of people, if you had decent wifi on them, nobody would care if the thing went as slow as 100km/h, i mean, even gigabit with bandwidth sharing so everyone gets a reliable 1-2mbit each would be enough to shut most people up. thats pently for looking at cat pics on your phone
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2016-04-04T08:14:16 < jpa-> PeterM: umm, i would totally care :)
2016-04-04T08:14:46 < jpa-> i mean, i would if trains in .fi went over 100km/h in the first place..
2016-04-04T08:15:07 < PeterM> i did say for the majority of people
2016-04-04T08:15:22 < PeterM> and since we're on irc were probably not inthat majority
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2016-04-04T08:17:09 < jpa-> "for the majority .. nobody would care"   i wonder how that works out :)
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2016-04-04T08:18:11 < jpa-> but i think you have a pretty biased majority
2016-04-04T08:18:14 < PeterM> if you had the majority group of the population, nobody in that majority group would care
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2016-04-04T08:19:37 < jpa-> PeterM: you are just wrong :)
2016-04-04T08:19:52 < jpa-> but because you excluded us both from the mythical "majority", no way to prove it
2016-04-04T08:20:09 < PeterM> just like that beautiful teapot
2016-04-04T08:20:27 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
2016-04-04T08:20:35 < jpa-> how many percent of the population do you estimate the majority to be? 5%?
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2016-04-04T08:21:26 < PeterM> well i'd start with the worlds population and work backwards from tehre
2016-04-04T08:22:04 < jpa-> ok, well then i can see it, considering the majority cannot currently afford trains *nor* internet
2016-04-04T08:22:17 < jpa-> so if you give them slow trains and internet, of course they are happy
2016-04-04T08:22:51 < PeterM> and then you add people who have slow trains with no internet
2016-04-04T08:22:55 < PeterM> and they'd also be happy
2016-04-04T08:22:56 < jpa-> btw, in Russell's teapot, how do you know who is the one representing unfalsifiable claims? both "god exists" and "god does not exist" are equally unfalsifiable
2016-04-04T08:23:23 < jpa-> PeterM: but this is just because you are cherry-picking your majority
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2016-04-04T08:24:14 < PeterM> i think the premise of the russells teapot thing is the person making the claim is the person who has to provide its supporting evidence
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2016-04-04T08:24:58 < jpa-> PeterM: so that would be you, right?
2016-04-04T08:25:04 < PeterM> so if you claim there  is a teapot between the earth and the moon, you have to provide evidence of that that is sufficient to support your case
2016-04-04T08:25:08 < PeterM> jpa indeed\
2016-04-04T08:25:18 < jpa-> but i made a claim also
2016-04-04T08:25:52 < PeterM> but i made the first outlandish claim, your claim was only made in dispute of my own
2016-04-04T08:26:09 < jpa-> i think the majority would not care who was first
2016-04-04T08:26:54 < PeterM> indeed
2016-04-04T08:27:29 < PeterM> but as we have both stated, these things are based on what we think, not what may be true, so there is allowances for us both to be correct and incorrect
2016-04-04T08:28:13 < jpa-> needs moar rage
2016-04-04T08:28:15 < PeterM> anyway, we should sto pthis conversation before is becomes too much spergers
2016-04-04T08:29:40 < PeterM> oh, jpa- you redid the vesc board, what package did you use?
2016-04-04T08:29:47 < PeterM> eda packlage that is
2016-04-04T08:31:24 < jpa-> kicad
2016-04-04T08:31:51 < jpa-> didn't modify the schematic that much, just added a few things and relayouted the pcb
2016-04-04T08:34:12 < PeterM> ughk
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2016-04-04T11:04:07 < PeterM> wot m8
2016-04-04T11:12:41 < dongs> fuckin dongs
2016-04-04T11:13:59 < dongs> autism alert
2016-04-04T11:14:13 < dongs> looks liek my z170 board is here
2016-04-04T11:15:05 < PeterM> dongs have mouch trouble stencingly a board that big? :P
2016-04-04T11:16:16 < PeterM> stenciling*
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2016-04-04T11:19:53 < mitrax_> BISCUITS!
2016-04-04T11:20:44 < zyp> dongs, I see you got all my shit
2016-04-04T11:21:21 < dongs> zyp, seems i have 2 fdexex boxes
2016-04-04T11:21:41 < dongs> and I cant find stencil, so maybe the cunts  didnt send me. did any positions change besides adding the JST?
2016-04-04T11:22:11 < zyp> yes, I moved a cap between the stm and the nfc chip to fit another signal
2016-04-04T11:22:42 < dongs> k, so ill have to poke about where it is. i got the boards here.
2016-04-04T11:25:00 < dongs> pretty sure nobody cares about occulus dick'd in 2016
2016-04-04T11:25:09 < dongs> they're about 3 years too late, evreyone else released competing shit ages ago
2016-04-04T11:25:18 < dongs> while they were busy jerking it with zuckerberg
2016-04-04T11:25:37 < dongs> ohsix: precisely, and by "doing" you mean done long time ago and selling
2016-04-04T11:25:53 < dongs> yes they have
2016-04-04T11:26:05 < dongs> all those dumbvr shits were done like last year if not earlier
2016-04-04T11:27:14 < dongs> 2D waifus
2016-04-04T11:27:17 < dongs> no need for 3d
2016-04-04T11:27:20 < dongs> DOA product
2016-04-04T11:33:01 < PeterM> you need to get a tighter cunt if you can put it on oyur head
2016-04-04T11:33:18 < mitrax_> ahahaha
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2016-04-04T11:34:25 < PeterM> i dunno, you WERE talking about 3d/2d waifus
2016-04-04T11:39:37 < dongs> noi
2016-04-04T11:39:39 < dongs> no
2016-04-04T11:39:46 < dongs> i play something once a year
2016-04-04T11:39:48 < dongs> then get bored of it
2016-04-04T11:39:56 < PeterM> vigya is the world of Return2Communism
2016-04-04T11:40:19 < dongs> yeah uh i play rhythm stuff on 3DS.
2016-04-04T11:40:24 < dongs> like.. also once a year
2016-04-04T11:41:16 < dongs> no idea, id ont care about any of that RPG trash
2016-04-04T11:42:12 < dongs> no shit bro, i dont evne know/care what it is
2016-04-04T11:42:16 < dongs> all I know is thaT I dont play it
2016-04-04T11:42:47 < dongs> i bet.
2016-04-04T11:42:59 < dongs> then you should be able to see my playing with my schlong as well
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2016-04-04T12:49:57 < PeterM> nah, i bet he is one of the many south american metal heads
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2016-04-04T12:54:27 < karlp> BrainDamage: you pasted the panamapapers at 1am, it had gone out on tv all over europe 7 hours earlier! you were OLD yourself ;)
2016-04-04T12:55:31 < BrainDamage> heh, how's the drama in iceland?
2016-04-04T12:58:35 < karlp> BrainDamage: heaps of fun.
2016-04-04T12:59:07 < karlp> sigmundur still believes he's done nothign wrong, and it's the national broadcaster just continuing on their personal attack vendetta against him and his family.
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2016-04-04T13:05:20 < lorenzo> lolputin
2016-04-04T13:06:04 < dongs> http://www.tcl.com/English.php/index/index.html
2016-04-04T13:06:06 < dongs> wtf is this? chinks?
2016-04-04T13:06:29 < dongs> hurr they're ordering my stuff
2016-04-04T13:06:34 < dongs> probly cloning purposes
2016-04-04T13:06:36 < dongs> fgttttts
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2016-04-04T13:47:15 < dongs> bloggin
2016-04-04T13:48:13 < dongs> no, pre
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2016-04-04T13:57:11 < mitrax_> i already asked this, but can the vector table be located anywhere in flash (as long as it's 32 bits aligned)? i've relocated my app at 0x0802001C (vector table of the app follows a header with firmware info at the begining of the sector), i set SCB VTOR to the proper address but it crashes as soon as i configure the pll, i'm assuming right when the SysTick interrupt gets triggered following
2016-04-04T13:57:11 < mitrax_> the pll config
2016-04-04T13:57:52 < zyp> no
2016-04-04T13:57:52 < jpa-> yeah, it can be anywhere (except on M0)
2016-04-04T13:57:57 < jpa-> hmm no
2016-04-04T13:57:59 < jpa-> ?
2016-04-04T13:58:06 < zyp> I think there's stricter alignment requirements than just 32 bits
2016-04-04T13:58:07 < dongs> surely it can be anywhere?
2016-04-04T13:58:36 < mitrax_> ah
2016-04-04T13:59:45 < zyp> well, it can be anywhere, assuming it's properly aligned
2016-04-04T13:59:45 < jpa-> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0203h/Cihdidh2.html   hmm yeah
2016-04-04T14:00:08 < jpa-> does 256-word mean 1024 byte?
2016-04-04T14:00:31 < zyp> I guess
2016-04-04T14:00:39 < mitrax_> .aaah
2016-04-04T14:00:42 < jpa-> would make sense
2016-04-04T14:01:38 < zyp> "Bits[31:30] and bits[7:0] of the VTOR are reserved, and are all 0."
2016-04-04T14:01:39 < mitrax_> uh, i assume they meant bit not word no?
2016-04-04T14:01:49 < mitrax_> "The vector table address must always be 32-word aligned. If more than 16 external interrupts are used, the address alignment must be more than 32-bits"
2016-04-04T14:02:07 < jpa-> mitrax_: i think they mean words
2016-04-04T14:02:11 < zyp> mitrax_, lower 8 bits are reserved, making it at least 256-byte aligned
2016-04-04T14:02:14 < zyp> i.e. 32 words
2016-04-04T14:02:20 < mitrax_> okay
2016-04-04T14:02:57 < zyp> and the top two bits are also reserved, meaning it needs to be located <0x40000000
2016-04-04T14:05:11 < jpa-> so no vector table on FSMC?
2016-04-04T14:05:14 < zyp> yep
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2016-04-04T14:08:25 < mitrax_> yay, works now
2016-04-04T14:08:38 < mitrax_> thanks
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2016-04-04T14:10:03 < zyp> I guess what caused the crash was that since the low bits didn't get written, the interrupt triggered a fetch of the wrong address
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2016-04-04T14:33:35 < upgrdman> so like back in the DOS says some UIs used ASCII to draw boxes that look like ===== etc. is this a common lib? tempted to do with on a mcu, and not sure if there are standard function names i should use, or just make it up as i go
2016-04-04T14:34:05 < jpa-> curses
2016-04-04T14:34:25 < upgrdman> oh i think i've heard that name before. cool, thx
2016-04-04T14:35:23 < jpa-> https://github.com/RaD/mcurses   this seems to be something
2016-04-04T14:36:37 < dongs> borland Turbo Vision stuff did it first iirc
2016-04-04T14:37:12 < dongs> they actually had a windowing system-like thing
2016-04-04T14:37:36 < dongs> drawn using ascii line+junk stuff
2016-04-04T14:37:56 < dongs> http://tvision.sourceforge.net/ looks like its even opensores
2016-04-04T14:40:24 < upgrdman> neat
2016-04-04T14:41:01 < dongs> http://www.sigala.it/sergio/tvision/html/example.gif
2016-04-04T14:41:09 < dongs> super pro stuff there guise
2016-04-04T14:42:31 < upgrdman> exactly like that
2016-04-04T14:45:42 < dongs> Laurenceb_: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeDwYVxWwAQ1Pv-.jpg what is this building
2016-04-04T14:57:32 < upgrdman> lolwut. in the past 28 days my youtube videos have been watched for FIVE people in nigeria. i didnt even know 5 people have internet access in nigeria
2016-04-04T14:58:12 < PeterM> upgrdman, yeah man, its those nigerian princes
2016-04-04T14:58:22 < PeterM> how can they send emails without internet
2016-04-04T14:58:23 < upgrdman> guess so
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2016-04-04T14:59:10 < upgrdman> lol and only 3 viewers in japan. guess i need to up my game
2016-04-04T14:59:29 < mitrax_> obviously you've never heard of scam 419
2016-04-04T15:00:18 < upgrdman> crt, im upgrdman on youtube
2016-04-04T15:00:29 < upgrdman> its mostly some arduino/raspi stuff
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2016-04-04T15:01:16 < upgrdman> https://www.youtube.com/user/upgrdman/videos
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2016-04-04T15:06:28 < upgrdman> the arduino/raspi stuff is mostly just for ad revenue
2016-04-04T15:06:35 < dongs> oh that building is jewgle in london
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2016-04-04T15:09:50 < upgrdman> ya
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2016-04-04T15:13:05 < upgrdman> ya i got the email
2016-04-04T15:13:12 < upgrdman> 13.7 or someshit
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2016-04-04T15:15:14 < dongs> seriously consideereing lattice stuff for some small cpld-ish junk
2016-04-04T15:15:20 < dongs> hows thier tools
2016-04-04T15:15:28 < dongs> on the scale of xilinx to aids
2016-04-04T15:15:33 < upgrdman> i kinda tempted to buy some altera board so i can play with quartus and see if its decent
2016-04-04T15:15:41 < upgrdman> dongs, i like diamond more than ise
2016-04-04T15:15:46 < upgrdman> but ive never used vivado
2016-04-04T15:15:46 < dongs> yeah, thats not hard
2016-04-04T15:15:49 < dongs> does it run on win10?
2016-04-04T15:15:52 < dongs> vivado is aids
2016-04-04T15:15:55 < upgrdman> yes
2016-04-04T15:15:55 < dongs> its just ISE, but worse
2016-04-04T15:16:08 < dongs> more JVM copies, more TCL/TK
2016-04-04T15:16:23 < jpa-> lattice icecube is pretty ok as far as FPGA tools go
2016-04-04T15:16:33 < upgrdman> dongs, heres my lattice notes: http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2016-01-03_Lattice_MachXO2_Breakout_Board_HelloWorld/
2016-04-04T15:16:55 < dongs> that GUI... hmmm
2016-04-04T15:16:58 < dongs> looks crossplatform
2016-04-04T15:17:39 < dongs> > tcl console
2016-04-04T15:17:42 < dongs> spotted in your screenshots
2016-04-04T15:17:56 < upgrdman> oh but for sim
2016-04-04T15:18:12 < upgrdman> oh but for sim'ing, they give you aldec ative-hdl which sucks so much ass
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2016-04-04T15:21:36 < upgrdman> ya i dunno. that's why i want to try some little altera dev board
2016-04-04T15:21:47 < upgrdman> so i can pick an fpga vendor with the least shitty tools
2016-04-04T15:22:09 < upgrdman> yes. but theyre all shit too
2016-04-04T15:22:19 < dongs> get that DE1 or wahtever shite.
2016-04-04T15:22:20 < upgrdman> i want to use the least shitty if possible
2016-04-04T15:22:36 < dongs> altera doesnt have any normal-sized shit
2016-04-04T15:22:41 < jpa-> if you do a lot of fpga stuff, it makes sense to buy/select a simulator and editor you like, build your workflow around them and then just synthetize for each platform using e.g. scripts
2016-04-04T15:22:45 < dongs> its all either hugeBGA or hugeTQFP
2016-04-04T15:23:13 < jpa-> one does not need post-route simulation etc. all that often
2016-04-04T15:23:33 < upgrdman> jpa-, problem will be convincing my boss to pay for tools when free ones are available from the people who make the fpga
2016-04-04T15:24:20 < upgrdman> also, one of our products STILL in development will be using a few... spartan 3's!
2016-04-04T15:24:33 < Sync> a few?
2016-04-04T15:24:34 < Sync> wat
2016-04-04T15:24:37 < upgrdman> NRND, wuts that mean bro
2016-04-04T15:25:28 < jpa-> Sync: what's wat about a few?
2016-04-04T15:26:22 < Sync> well, it might be fine, but it might also be a case where a bigger fpga would be better
2016-04-04T15:26:31 < upgrdman> multiple boards
2016-04-04T15:26:54 < upgrdman> only one board has two fpgas on one board, and that lattice fpgas
2016-04-04T15:33:22 < upgrdman> dongs, oh in case you care, diamond does not support display scaling, but you use 150% so it might not be a big deal. i use a manifest to scale 2x2.
2016-04-04T15:33:25 < dongs> R2PRO where the fuck have you been
2016-04-04T15:33:46 < dongs> upgrdman: yeah i definitely do not. i use old scaling not the newfag DPI-dependent stuff. so i probably wont evne notice.
2016-04-04T15:33:53 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-04T15:34:00 < dongs> and im at 125 i blieve
2016-04-04T15:34:01 < dongs> on my destop
2016-04-04T15:34:03 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-04T15:34:24 < dongs> ya 125
2016-04-04T15:34:42 < dongs> man win10 makes it hard to find that setting
2016-04-04T15:38:29 < dongs> looks like my pal goin ahead with dickstarting his fdm 3d printer
2016-04-04T15:38:38 < dongs> in 2016
2016-04-04T15:38:52 < dongs> not 4 u
2016-04-04T15:39:22 < dongs> its $1k and hes going against shitheap like makerbot etc who he CLAIMS do worse quality for 3x the price.
2016-04-04T15:39:26 < dongs> donno
2016-04-04T15:40:18 < upgrdman> is this pal the EEVintern that made a weird looking 3d dicker?
2016-04-04T15:40:26 < Sync> with the double motor
2016-04-04T15:40:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/oSqqpbg.jpg well the trash I 3d dicked was pretty ok
2016-04-04T15:40:42 < dongs> i have no idea what "quality" is tho
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2016-04-04T15:41:28 < mitrax_> what are the dimensions of the brown thing underneath?
2016-04-04T15:41:43 < Sync> that is his crabon fibre bat
2016-04-04T15:41:45 < Sync> ~mat
2016-04-04T15:41:47 < dongs> mitrax_: its my yeah ^ that
2016-04-04T15:41:53 < PeterM> only 6 of those looks like they could possibly be dildos
2016-04-04T15:41:56 < mitrax_> yeah but what size is that
2016-04-04T15:41:58 < upgrdman> dongs, what are those? butt plugs and ball gags?
2016-04-04T15:42:01 < mitrax_> to get a sense of scale
2016-04-04T15:42:06 < karlp> looks like just one dildo to me....
2016-04-04T15:42:07 < PeterM> are you sure they're urs dongs
2016-04-04T15:42:11 < karlp> </insanitywolf>
2016-04-04T15:42:12 < dongs> 21x17
2016-04-04T15:42:42 < PeterM> karlp nice of you to chime in
2016-04-04T15:42:50 < PeterM> whats crackin in inceland?
2016-04-04T15:44:12 < upgrdman> speaking of ice, how do they deal with freezing water pipes if freezing cold places? just leave a faucet always dripping?
2016-04-04T15:44:33 < Sync> your wall should not reach freezing
2016-04-04T15:44:34 < mitrax_> looks like something went wrong with the bottom right ball
2016-04-04T15:44:34 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7onFrBK_hKE
2016-04-04T15:45:00 < upgrdman> Sync, but what about the pipes underground feeding your home?
2016-04-04T15:45:10 < dongs> hmmmmmmmmm
2016-04-04T15:45:20 < dongs> theres some assmedia chip that goes to hdmi/dp socket on this board
2016-04-04T15:45:53 < Sync> upgrdman: usually there is no frost 1.5m down the surface
2016-04-04T15:45:58 < dongs> http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show_products.php?cate_index=102&item=147
2016-04-04T15:46:00 < dongs> hm yhis aids
2016-04-04T15:47:51 < dongs> heh all USB sockets just have PTCs as current limiting
2016-04-04T15:48:27 < dongs> aww
2016-04-04T15:48:31 < dongs> M2_SSD_LED is not mounteed
2016-04-04T15:48:35 < Laurenceb_> http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/i-wasnt-surprised-by-the-us-dreadlocks-row-white-people-never-think-they-are-guilty-of-cultural-a6964906.html
2016-04-04T15:48:37 < dongs> i think im gonna put that pink led there
2016-04-04T15:48:41 < Laurenceb_> not sure if troll
2016-04-04T15:48:54 < dongs> Laurenceb_: have ytou eever bneen to google uk offices
2016-04-04T15:49:08 < Laurenceb_> dongs: why the fuck would I go there?!
2016-04-04T15:49:27 < dongs> just askin, chill
2016-04-04T15:49:45 < dongs> ftheres a guy who just started working there that I wanna troll
2016-04-04T15:49:59 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Orcad-PCB-design/ attn R2COM
2016-04-04T15:50:17 < upgrdman> dongs, whats wrong with PTCs? too slow?
2016-04-04T15:51:20 < dongs> upgrdman: nah i thought there's dedicated current limit stuffs that have feedback to usb controller
2016-04-04T15:51:23 < dongs> about dead port etc
2016-04-04T15:51:28 < dongs> i'd eeexpect that in a $250 board
2016-04-04T15:51:40 < upgrdman> ah
2016-04-04T15:52:02 < kakimir> why is PTC too slow?
2016-04-04T15:52:39 < upgrdman> well if you need like millisecond-level tripping, active is the only way iirc
2016-04-04T15:52:40 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/LIDAR-mapping-Drone/
2016-04-04T15:54:40 < mitrax_> here's a job for Ivan
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2016-04-04T15:57:29 < PeterM> upgrdman, is true, but can get annoying for anything with capacitance  etc
2016-04-04T15:59:29 < upgrdman> ya
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2016-04-04T16:09:23 < dongs> hm is there a way to get a netlist of altidong project that isnt some retarded text i cant even read
2016-04-04T16:09:43 < dongs> closest thing I can think of is the nets listing in pcb editor when you click "all nets"
2016-04-04T16:09:55 < dongs> but i wanna see e~similar in schematic without going to pcn first
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2016-04-04T16:27:39 < kakimir> so this mcurses thing is mcu proof?
2016-04-04T16:28:06 < zyp> it'll lead to lots of cursing
2016-04-04T16:28:45 < kakimir> maybe I will make my whole application around one micro
2016-04-04T16:29:05 < kakimir> use rasperry just as a terminal
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2016-04-04T16:33:29 < BrainDamage> don't forge to treat the 100x more powerful board as merely an extension of the micro, and give it cute names such as umbrella, wing, or fleshlight
2016-04-04T16:35:05 < kakimir> it's just a terminal
2016-04-04T16:35:22 < kakimir> gould you overlay 3d graphics on terminal view?
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2016-04-04T16:35:48 < kakimir> in case you don't want to use X or such systems
2016-04-04T16:36:05 < kakimir> and want graphics such as plot's and 3d models
2016-04-04T16:36:09 < kakimir> plots*
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2016-04-04T16:38:42 < kakimir> :]
2016-04-04T16:39:18 < kakimir> i think it's a bit easier to run terminal on X and then overlay as window?
2016-04-04T16:39:26 < kakimir> and also not as nasty
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2016-04-04T17:22:12 < karlp> PeterM: follow along yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMT2zZcvIi8
2016-04-04T17:23:06 < karlp> largely as expected, PM said in an interview today he had not and was not considering stepping down, that the nation was best served by him and his team continuing, that there's always some losers who want to protest.
2016-04-04T17:23:37 < karlp> finance minster, leader of the bigger, other half of the coalition "missed his plane" and is stuck in the US, avoiding the issue.  (also named in the panama papers)
2016-04-04T17:24:33 < karlp> almost none of the coalition members will talk to the press, the few that have either say, "great leader is great" or repeat the same talking point over and over until the interviewer tells them to stop repeating themselves.
2016-04-04T17:25:23 < karlp> he'll never step down on his own, the coalition would have to crack out.  there's apparentlty a vote of no confidence from the minority at 3pm today, unsure if any of the coalition will support it yet.
2016-04-04T17:25:52 < karlp> I expect it will take quite a while
2016-04-04T17:25:52 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5VNnmAoIYI 4th generation nuclear weapons
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2016-04-04T17:27:54 < karlp> you can also play along here: https://sbs.is/happyiceland/
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2016-04-04T17:31:20 < Sync> wtf is that shit karlp
2016-04-04T17:32:14 < PeterM> its got double jump
2016-04-04T17:34:43 < zyp> karlp, heard your prime minister is being naughty
2016-04-04T17:36:16 < karlp> is, has been, will continue to do so.
2016-04-04T17:39:13 < karlp> he just had outstanding luck and timing around the last election, the dark green spike here is his party's approval, the vertical dotted line was the election. http://mmr.is/fylgi-flokka-og-rikisstjornar
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2016-04-04T17:56:31 < englishman> what caused the jump in pirate party support jan 2015?
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2016-04-04T17:58:17 < englishman> haha wow he has direct implication with those shell companies
2016-04-04T17:59:45 < Sync> yes
2016-04-04T17:59:52 < Sync> I hope he is getting rekt
2016-04-04T18:00:15 < kakimir> what you need hydrogen oxygen torch for?
2016-04-04T18:00:49 < englishman> putting out fires
2016-04-04T18:02:51 < kakimir> you fool
2016-04-04T18:04:26 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMsYP5oLIo
2016-04-04T18:07:36 < kakimir> I wonder if it can cut metal plates
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2016-04-04T19:04:32 < Laurenceb> shit
2016-04-04T19:04:40 < Laurenceb> my lsm9ds1 footprint fails to reflow
2016-04-04T19:04:44 < Laurenceb> shit sucks man
2016-04-04T19:04:58 < Laurenceb> too much solder wick on some of the pads :-S
2016-04-04T19:05:06 < Laurenceb> any ideas how to fix this?
2016-04-04T19:05:29 < Laurenceb> hot air desolder, manually build up the pad bumps then put it back on with hot air?
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2016-04-04T19:06:44 < jpa-> Laurenceb: hot air desolder, try to put it back, take it off again, rip a few pads, finally do this  http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/pix/lga14.jpg
2016-04-04T19:06:48 < jpa-> it's the pro way
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2016-04-04T19:07:04 < mitrax> ahahaahah
2016-04-04T19:08:08 < dongs> pro as fuq
2016-04-04T19:08:25 < dongs> you've reinvented COB
2016-04-04T19:08:30 < dongs> ecept using clear epoxy
2016-04-04T19:09:08 < Laurenceb> how the fuck do they do this the pro way??
2016-04-04T19:09:14 < Laurenceb> solder wicking simulations?
2016-04-04T19:09:39 < emeb> define "fails to reflow"
2016-04-04T19:09:53 < emeb> bad / expired solder paste?
2016-04-04T19:10:01 < dongs> < Laurenceb> my lsm9ds1 footprint fails to reflow
2016-04-04T19:10:02 < dongs> oh uh
2016-04-04T19:10:02 < jpa-> Laurenceb: they follow manufacturer recommendations and then tweak a bit based on xray images
2016-04-04T19:10:13 < dongs> i steal ST footprints from their evalboards
2016-04-04T19:10:18 < dongs> if they have altidong data, just steal from there
2016-04-04T19:10:20 < Laurenceb> emeb: everything was perfect
2016-04-04T19:10:22 < dongs> or else import gerber top pads
2016-04-04T19:10:23 < emeb> looks like it's just a little QFN - how hard could that be?
2016-04-04T19:10:36 < jpa-> emeb: that's what *i* thought! :)
2016-04-04T19:10:38 < Laurenceb> the IC is about 200µm off the PCB
2016-04-04T19:10:46 < jpa-> those chips are crappy in that the pads are not visible at the edge
2016-04-04T19:10:54 < Laurenceb> some of the solder bumbs seem to be about 175µm high
2016-04-04T19:11:11 < Laurenceb> theres around 25µm air gaps
2016-04-04T19:11:15 < jpa-> Laurenceb: maybe you have some slowly heating gnd pads?
2016-04-04T19:11:28 < jpa-> preheating could help
2016-04-04T19:11:31 < Laurenceb> ironically its the ground pads that are ok
2016-04-04T19:11:41 < jpa-> yes, that's exactly the symptom
2016-04-04T19:11:51 < jpa-> because the ground pads are what is keeping it off the pcb
2016-04-04T19:11:54 < Laurenceb> maybe I should put pressure on the top during reflow?
2016-04-04T19:12:05 < dongs> no
2016-04-04T19:12:06 < jpa-> you can, but that is likely to misalign it
2016-04-04T19:12:08 < Laurenceb> I didnt ground flood to avoid wicking
2016-04-04T19:12:15 < Laurenceb> but looks like I overdid it
2016-04-04T19:12:23 < jpa-> maybe you have too much paste?
2016-04-04T19:12:27 < Laurenceb> now the ground bumps are too high
2016-04-04T19:12:29 < kakimir> how do I remove include path from project view in eclipce/lpcexpresso?
2016-04-04T19:12:32 < Laurenceb> maybe I dunno lol
2016-04-04T19:12:37 < kakimir> removed it from build configuration
2016-04-04T19:12:45 < Laurenceb> hmm
2016-04-04T19:12:50 < Laurenceb> well i cant make it worse
2016-04-04T19:13:01 < dongs> Laurenceb: is this on chinapcb
2016-04-04T19:13:04 < dongs> or proper MADE IN UK
2016-04-04T19:13:07 < Laurenceb> I'm going to reflow with a sewing needle on the top
2016-04-04T19:13:10 < Laurenceb> proper UK
2016-04-04T19:13:23 < dongs> hasl? or e-NIG
2016-04-04T19:13:24 < Laurenceb> new paste and everything
2016-04-04T19:13:29 < Laurenceb> e-NIG
2016-04-04T19:13:33 < dongs> almost sounds pro
2016-04-04T19:13:37 < dongs> you probly fucked it up
2016-04-04T19:13:40 < dongs> proper metal steencil?
2016-04-04T19:13:41 < Laurenceb> yup it should be pro
2016-04-04T19:13:50 < Laurenceb> no, mylar
2016-04-04T19:13:55 < dongs> <Laurenceb> nope capton from stencils.co.uk
2016-04-04T19:13:58 < dongs> ffs thats your problem
2016-04-04T19:14:00 < Laurenceb> lul
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2016-04-04T19:14:28 < Laurenceb> ok reflowing with needle on top, bbl
2016-04-04T19:14:39 < zyp> dongs, do you have any experience with pcb-mount AC/DC modules?
2016-04-04T19:14:55 < dongs> zyp, other than i've had htem mounted on some boards before but they werent mine
2016-04-04T19:15:07 < dongs> i only use those external shits in metal mesh cases
2016-04-04T19:16:00 < zyp> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xp-power/ECE05US12/1470-1110-ND/4487491 <- I want something like this shit, but preferably not expensive as fuck
2016-04-04T19:17:06 < zyp> and preferably not larger either
2016-04-04T19:17:33 < zyp> could you check with chinagirl?
2016-04-04T19:18:43 < emeb> Laurenceb: you need to do QFN like this pro -> https://blackmesalabs.wordpress.com/2015/07/24/evey-video-and-new-reflow-process/
2016-04-04T19:18:58 < dongs> yeah, "that kinda shit" tends to be "expensive as fuck"
2016-04-04T19:19:08 < emeb> just blobs solder on the pads w/ iron and reflows w/ hot air
2016-04-04T19:19:11 < dongs> zyp, yeah. will queue for tomrorw
2016-04-04T19:19:25 < zyp> cool
2016-04-04T19:19:27 < emeb> then does exposed pad thru giant hole in board
2016-04-04T19:19:31 < dongs> https://blackmesalabs.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/img_11221.jpg?w=450&h=407
2016-04-04T19:19:33 < dongs> ..............................
2016-04-04T19:19:40 < dongs> emeb, plumbers flux rly?
2016-04-04T19:19:52 < emeb> dongs: iknowright?
2016-04-04T19:19:52 < dongs> oh nvm its SRA shit
2016-04-04T19:19:59 < dongs> it looked like plumbers flux tho
2016-04-04T19:20:03 < dongs> didnt zoom in
2016-04-04T19:20:04 < emeb> yeah - that can
2016-04-04T19:20:09 < mitrax> zyp: 45x48x21.5 way too big i guess?
2016-04-04T19:20:15 < mitrax> (mm)
2016-04-04T19:20:42 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-04T19:23:26 < mitrax> and 5W min?
2016-04-04T19:24:26 < wbraun> LGA is the worst package
2016-04-04T19:25:02 < zyp> uh, I don't think I need as much as 5W
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2016-04-04T19:33:22 < mitrax> zyp: http://www.elipse.eu/en/products/ls03-15b12sr2s (wrong picture though)
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2016-04-04T19:34:13 < karlp> mitrax: huh, that's pretty rad
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2016-04-04T19:34:37 < zyp> mitrax, doesn't those things usually require external parts?
2016-04-04T19:34:49 < mitrax> karlp: rad?
2016-04-04T19:35:02 < karlp> which do not have high requirements on EMC
2016-04-04T19:35:11 < karlp> mitrax: was just saying it was a neat module at a nice price
2016-04-04T19:35:37 < mitrax> ahah ok
2016-04-04T19:36:11 < Laurenceb> wonderful
2016-04-04T19:36:16 < Laurenceb> how its worse than ever
2016-04-04T19:36:23 < Laurenceb> maybe I could dead bug my lsm9
2016-04-04T19:37:04 < zyp> hmm, isolated even
2016-04-04T19:37:05 < karlp> huh, yeah, still needs too many external parts
2016-04-04T19:37:16 < emeb> Laurenceb: check for shorts between lines? maybe you used too much paste and it bridged?
2016-04-04T19:37:31 < Laurenceb> nope
2016-04-04T19:37:35 < karlp> required coil and three caps.
2016-04-04T19:37:39 < Laurenceb> mismatched bump heights
2016-04-04T19:37:47 < Laurenceb> I'm not sure how this is even possible ot get right
2016-04-04T19:37:58 < Laurenceb> bump matching it like 10µm
2016-04-04T19:38:17 < Laurenceb> ok back to solder station for attempt 3
2016-04-04T19:39:05 < kakimir> why don't people use flow control
2016-04-04T19:39:25 < kakimir> too many things to get right at once
2016-04-04T19:39:38 < emeb> zyp: that ac/dc module is cute. what are the UL/CE qualification implications of that vs a wall wart?
2016-04-04T19:40:18 < zyp> probably bad :p
2016-04-04T19:40:19 < Laurenceb> going to try paperclip onto of it this time
2016-04-04T19:41:04 < zyp> emeb, but I'm planning to put an energy meter circuit on the same board, so it's probably a pain either way
2016-04-04T19:41:10 < emeb> yeah - any time you bring full mains voltage onto your PCB things get complicated.
2016-04-04T19:41:28 < karlp> sync disagrees
2016-04-04T19:41:35 < Sync> ^
2016-04-04T19:41:39 < karlp>  ;)
2016-04-04T19:41:42 < zyp> for now I just don't worry much about it, right now it's just a toy product
2016-04-04T19:41:51 < zyp> project*
2016-04-04T19:41:58 < emeb> ah - no problem then. I rarely sue myself
2016-04-04T19:44:39 < zyp> I'll start by making it and making it work, and if it ends up turning into something people would actually buy then I'll worry about CE qualification
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2016-04-04T19:45:30 < Sync> wtf
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2016-04-04T19:46:02 < Sync> I get a huge offset on one of the adc channels when using the injected adc group
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2016-04-04T19:47:53 < Laurenceb> and attempt 3 is an epic fail too
2016-04-04T19:48:13 < Laurenceb> something seems to be wrong, it should be feasible to solder one of these when I have everything setup correctly
2016-04-04T19:48:20 < Steffanx> pebkac
2016-04-04T19:48:39 < Steffanx> show us your tom66 work Laurenceb
2016-04-04T19:48:47 < Laurenceb> lol
2016-04-04T19:48:51 < emeb> yeah - pix or gtfo
2016-04-04T19:48:54 < Laurenceb> its looks fine
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2016-04-04T19:49:02 < Laurenceb> dont have a suitable camera
2016-04-04T19:49:13 < Laurenceb> but there are air gaps
2016-04-04T19:49:28 < Laurenceb> its at the limit of my microscope to pick them out but they are there
2016-04-04T19:49:35 < Steffanx> no fancy phone?
2016-04-04T19:50:05 < Laurenceb> nope and no cameraphone could spot this
2016-04-04T19:50:20 < Laurenceb>  <10µm gaps
2016-04-04T19:50:27 < emeb> so pull the part off and look at the underside
2016-04-04T19:50:34 < emeb> see no solder wetting?
2016-04-04T19:50:59 < Laurenceb> maybe, I wasnt sure when it happened
2016-04-04T19:51:11 < Laurenceb> I'm going to try againb with fresh pcb and lsm9
2016-04-04T19:51:27 < Laurenceb> throw this attempt in bin and restart from scratch
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2016-04-04T20:20:12 < Laurenceb> hmm I think this attempt worked
2016-04-04T20:20:26 < Laurenceb> dont have a script written to fully test, but it seems to basically work
2016-04-04T20:21:07 < Laurenceb> in future I'm going to extend the pads further past the sides of the IC so its possible to touch up with an iron
2016-04-04T20:21:32 < Laurenceb> atm it looks like https://camo.githubusercontent.com/e7ce639d801b755606aab587d53926e0c14fd030/68747470733a2f2f63646e2e737061726b66756e2e636f6d2f2f6173736574732f70617274732f312f302f352f332f332f31333238342d30322e6a7067
2016-04-04T20:24:59 < Laurenceb> impossible to touch up with an iron
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2016-04-04T20:30:54 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKdUtOa0tXd0J1ekE/view?usp=sharing setup atm. powered and connected
2016-04-04T20:31:04 < kakimir> no smokes
2016-04-04T20:33:53 < ReadError> red wires?
2016-04-04T20:33:54 < ReadError> fail
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2016-04-04T20:35:00 < englishman> Laurenceb: horse compass
2016-04-04T20:35:11 < englishman> heat with air, press down, remove heat, remove pressing down
2016-04-04T20:35:12 < englishman> test
2016-04-04T20:35:21 < englishman> unless your pattern is junk it should work
2016-04-04T20:35:39 < englishman> those LGAs arent complicated
2016-04-04T20:35:46 < kakimir> ReadError: red wires? do you have probs with them?
2016-04-04T20:36:59 < englishman> i thought you switched to mmcx
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2016-04-04T20:38:48 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-04T20:38:52 < kakimir> in future shiet
2016-04-04T20:38:59 < kakimir> legacy crap is crap
2016-04-04T20:39:04 < kakimir> and good actually
2016-04-04T20:39:10 < kakimir> SMA is good connector
2016-04-04T20:39:22 < kakimir> I have bought more SMA stuff
2016-04-04T20:39:46 < kakimir> like angles.. dividers etc.
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2016-04-04T20:42:29 < ReadError> kakimir yea u botched the pcb
2016-04-04T20:42:30 < ReadError> no?
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2016-04-04T20:48:55 < kakimir> both sides yes https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKS3Jyc0dzaWdTSUk/view?usp=sharing
2016-04-04T20:57:45 < Steffanx> lol
2016-04-04T21:01:01 < kakimir> I dickboned those wires there carefully
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2016-04-04T21:04:05 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/N1PG7bTJ what is this for?
2016-04-04T21:11:09 < qyx> I can see some unpopulated SMAs
2016-04-04T21:11:24 < kakimir> "some"
2016-04-04T21:11:24 < qyx> the author is known
2016-04-04T21:11:48 < zyp> kakimir, disables symbol mangling
2016-04-04T21:12:13 < zyp> ref. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_mangling#C.2B.2B
2016-04-04T21:15:36 < Laurenceb> <englishman> yeah thats what I did on attempt 2
2016-04-04T21:15:55 < Laurenceb> but the pads seemed to have oxidised or something
2016-04-04T21:16:05 < Laurenceb> tried again from scratch and it worked ok
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2016-04-04T21:16:15 < Laurenceb> I suspect its my stencil
2016-04-04T21:17:08 < zyp> what are you fucking up today?
2016-04-04T21:17:32 < Laurenceb> zyp: lsm9ds1 soldering
2016-04-04T21:18:01 < kakimir> zyp: I didn't notice there is actually  {}
2016-04-04T21:18:08 < kakimir> begin and end of file
2016-04-04T21:18:26 < zyp> Laurenceb, problem is probably footprint
2016-04-04T21:18:32 < zyp> been there, done that
2016-04-04T21:18:40 < Laurenceb> yeah
2016-04-04T21:18:48 < Laurenceb> but the stencil isnt helping
2016-04-04T21:19:02 < Laurenceb> the ground pads had thermals to avoid too much wicking
2016-04-04T21:19:10 < Laurenceb> but it seems they are now too high lol
2016-04-04T21:19:21 < Laurenceb> other pads sometimes have air gaps
2016-04-04T21:19:33 < zyp> well, it's a combination issue
2016-04-04T21:19:50 < zyp> the smaller the pads are, the smaller room you have for excess paste
2016-04-04T21:20:05 < zyp> with larger pads, it's much more tolerant to paste amount
2016-04-04T21:20:17 < Laurenceb> yeah I should have made them extends outside the ic
2016-04-04T21:20:34 < zyp> too small and you'll either get bridging or bad joints
2016-04-04T21:21:15 < zyp> couple this with a shitty stencil and cheap paste and it's impossible to get it just right
2016-04-04T21:21:53 < zyp> throw away the board and do a respin with a fixed footprint
2016-04-04T21:22:18 < Laurenceb> yeah I'm already doing a version 2 board
2016-04-04T21:22:40 < Laurenceb> but I'm going to try to get one version one board working to test everything
2016-04-04T21:22:47 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/QW7ZG.png <- I had the same issue on this board
2016-04-04T21:23:11 < Laurenceb> ah, looks very similar to my footprint
2016-04-04T21:23:17 < Laurenceb> I see you did thermals on ground
2016-04-04T21:23:21 < zyp> accel in the top left corner has a shitty problem, gyro in the middle of the board worked on all three
2016-04-04T21:23:39 < zyp> shitty footprint, I mean
2016-04-04T21:24:04 < zyp> I didn't make it, it was from some shitty eagle lib
2016-04-04T21:24:43 < zyp> that board was what taught me to not use shitty third party footprints
2016-04-04T21:24:45 < zyp> :p
2016-04-04T21:24:56 < gxti> i learned that lesson very early
2016-04-04T21:26:22 < Steffanx> eagle much
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2016-04-04T21:30:28 < ReadError> Laurenceb
2016-04-04T21:30:34 < ReadError> flux + tin
2016-04-04T21:30:37 < ReadError> clean
2016-04-04T21:30:40 < ReadError> flux + ic
2016-04-04T21:30:42 < ReadError> reflow
2016-04-04T21:30:50 < ReadError> works 100% of the time
2016-04-04T21:30:50 < Laurenceb> theres no way to get under the ic
2016-04-04T21:31:02 < Laurenceb> also flux boils and dislodges it
2016-04-04T21:31:15 < ReadError> yea but by tinning you can control how much solder is on each pad
2016-04-04T21:31:23 < ReadError> and check before
2016-04-04T21:33:00 < davor> hello. can anyone recommend some links to get started with stm32 mcus (I've got an f103 specifically)? I've got some experience with 8-bit mcus and basic electronics knowledge and experience so I don't need detailed step-by-step guides you typically see with arduino, raspberry pi and stuff like that, just something with lots of examples to show me the ropes
2016-04-04T21:33:32 < ds2> what kind of tools do you have?
2016-04-04T21:33:38 < qyx> a hammer
2016-04-04T21:33:43 < ReadError> http://www.playembedded.org/index.php?lang=en&mod=tut&sec=chi&ord=crl&pag=1
2016-04-04T21:33:46 < ReadError> davor those are okay
2016-04-04T21:33:50 < ReadError> if you are using chibios
2016-04-04T21:34:00 < ReadError> breaks it down
2016-04-04T21:34:21 < ReadError> http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~geobrown/book.pdf
2016-04-04T21:34:24 < qyx> Laurenceb: i tin & flux pads, place and drag solder
2016-04-04T21:34:25 < ReadError> worth a crack too
2016-04-04T21:34:33 < ReadError> think he uses the same mcu, f103
2016-04-04T21:34:36 < Laurenceb> qyx: not for LGA
2016-04-04T21:34:40 < ReadError> qyx i dont think you can on that package
2016-04-04T21:34:46 < qyx> aha lga
2016-04-04T21:34:55 < qyx> then tin, flux and reflow as ReadError says
2016-04-04T21:34:57 < ReadError> Laurenceb why not just tin and blast it w/ hotair?
2016-04-04T21:34:59 < Laurenceb> 0.4mm LGA :-S
2016-04-04T21:35:02 < ReadError> if it doesnt work
2016-04-04T21:35:08 < ReadError> put a lil pressure on top
2016-04-04T21:35:09 < Laurenceb> ReadError: that would never work
2016-04-04T21:35:11 < ReadError> and reblast it
2016-04-04T21:35:18 < qyx> although I had some problems with lis331 too
2016-04-04T21:35:21 < Laurenceb> you need really precise solder application
2016-04-04T21:35:22 < qyx> that was 0.5
2016-04-04T21:35:28 < ReadError> Laurenceb huh
2016-04-04T21:35:28 < qyx> and lsm303 or whatever it was
2016-04-04T21:35:31 < ReadError> thats why you tin
2016-04-04T21:35:33 < ReadError> w/ flux
2016-04-04T21:35:36 < Laurenceb> the solder bumps need to all be the same height
2016-04-04T21:35:39 < Laurenceb> or it fails
2016-04-04T21:35:46 < ReadError> then you can adjust shit after
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2016-04-04T21:40:12 < davor> ReadError, huh I have no idea what chibios is, I'll have a look. that book looks great too! thanks!
2016-04-04T21:40:40 < davor> ds2, one of those cheap ebay breakouts and an ebay st-link v2
2016-04-04T21:41:52 < ds2> so you can do SWD
2016-04-04T21:42:09 < ds2> openocd and arm gcc cross compiler toolchain should be all you need
2016-04-04T21:44:00 < davor> cheers. tbh I'd love to start with a more barebones setup instead of an arduino-like library as crutches
2016-04-04T21:44:46 < davor> by the way, if anyone has experience with these things http://www.ebay.com/itm/331683399711 is their output 3.3v or 5v (which needs level shifting)?
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2016-04-04T21:49:03 < ReadError> should be 3.3
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2016-04-04T21:50:37 < wbraun> they use the V+ pin to sense, right?
2016-04-04T21:51:02 < wbraun> so it uses whatever supply voltage your board uses
2016-04-04T21:51:43 < PaulFertser> davor: is your cheap clone stm32f101 based?
2016-04-04T21:51:48 < ReadError> yea it just reads the voltage
2016-04-04T21:51:50 < ReadError> not needed
2016-04-04T21:52:09 < davor> ah, awesome!
2016-04-04T21:52:19 < davor> PaulFertser, no, f103, it's this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/131734661668
2016-04-04T21:53:03 < PaulFertser> davor: no, I mean the stlink clone.
2016-04-04T21:54:09 < PaulFertser> davor: i've that cheap f103 board too, I have added a board description in https://github.com/paulfertser/stm32-tx-hid/blob/master/README
2016-04-04T21:55:28 < PaulFertser> davor: for stlink clones that are f101 based there're serious chances of not functional SRST pin. There exists "hacked" modified firmware for that variant though.
2016-04-04T21:55:28 < davor> oh, sorry. I'm not sure, it doesn't say in the description, I've linked it above. I'd rather not open it up
2016-04-04T21:55:47 < davor> hm, then I might have to, unless there's an easy way to check in software?
2016-04-04T21:56:03 < davor> oh cheers, nice writeup
2016-04-04T21:59:05 < davor> tbh I'm not entirely sure I'd be able to avoid accidentally breaking the pcb while prying the aluminium case open, hence my hesitation, and I don't want to wait for another one to arrive in the mail. should've ordered two from the get-go I suppose heh.
2016-04-04T21:59:56 < PaulFertser> davor: if you connect to some board later that has SRST and it doesn't work, then you'll reflash. If SRST works, you won't need to, easy, no need to open :)
2016-04-04T22:01:04 < davor> ah, right. great! :)
2016-04-04T22:04:01 < PaulFertser> davor: libopencm3 is barebones enough, I'd sy.
2016-04-04T22:06:17 < davor> nice, thanks!
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2016-04-04T22:14:24 < wbraun> if you live in the US, you can get a full STM32 dev board for around $15 shipped
2016-04-04T22:14:34 < wbraun> and that also has a full stlink programmer on it
2016-04-04T22:14:45 < davor> nope, unfortunately I do not
2016-04-04T22:15:08 < davor> which is why I usually have to resort to ebay clones, because otherwise the shipping rates get insane
2016-04-04T22:15:20 < wbraun> Ah. Yah, I dont know about shipping then
2016-04-04T22:15:40 < wbraun> I have just spent the last week getting openocd / mxcube working. Its great fun! /s
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2016-04-04T22:15:55 < davor> hehe
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2016-04-04T22:17:58 < wbraun> its not that difficult really, I just made some stupid mistakes
2016-04-04T22:18:13 < wbraun> connecting the reset line of the STM32 to VCC disables software reset -.-
2016-04-04T22:18:14 < jhg_> anyone played with DFU on stm32f42 ever?
2016-04-04T22:18:21 < davor> ha, part of the process, eh :)
2016-04-04T22:18:41 < davor> I've made my fair share of those mistakes, it always happens
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2016-04-04T22:19:06 < wbraun> here the github repo if you want to see / need a starting point: https://github.com/westonb/open-cell-incubator/tree/master/firmware/host_board
2016-04-04T22:19:16 < davor> oo thanks!
2016-04-04T22:19:49 < wbraun> tl:dr if you use mxcube:
2016-04-04T22:20:23 < wbraun> include all the crap it generates, make sure to define in the chip part # in main.c / compiler flag
2016-04-04T22:21:32 < wbraun> dig out startup.s specific to your chip for gcc from the repo that mxcube creates and then dig out the example system_stmxxxx.c file from some examples folder from the stuff that mxcube generates
2016-04-04T22:23:20 < PaulFertser> jhg_: it's not plain DFU, it's DFuSe or something like that. dfu-util supports that.
2016-04-04T22:26:23 < jhg_> PaulFertser: word. I've gotten it to work on a STM32F3 discovery board, not the F429 discovery which connected the wrong USB port. Now as I test on the board we're developing on, a custom F427 design, the USB is not enumerating as a DFU device
2016-04-04T22:26:57 < davor> wbraun, sounds like sound advice, thanks man!
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2016-04-04T22:31:47 < PaulFertser> davor: provided you'll like mxcube crap, yes ;)
2016-04-04T22:33:43 < jhg_> PaulFertser: maybe I was lying about the F3 disco board. might have been F1
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2016-04-04T22:41:03 < jhg_> nope. just tested the F3 disco board and it shows up just fine.
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2016-04-04T22:56:38 < emeb> jhg_: you have an F427 in boot mode and it's not showing up on a host as an ST VID/PID DFU device?
2016-04-04T22:57:16 < emeb> I have F427 boards that do enumerate properly in boot mode, so it is possible.
2016-04-04T22:57:52 < emeb> I have seen F4 parts that don't enumerate properly if the HSE xtal doesn't have proper loading caps.
2016-04-04T22:58:18 < emeb> if the HSE takes too long to start up then the bootloader code skips the USB test
2016-04-04T22:58:20 < jhg_> emeb: I am confused by the documentation. does it need boot0 = 1?
2016-04-04T22:58:27 < jhg_> hmmm
2016-04-04T22:58:36 < jhg_> clock should be okay here
2016-04-04T22:59:27 < emeb> BOOT0 = +3.3V is normal mode
2016-04-04T22:59:37 < emeb> BOOT0 = 0V is bootloader mode.
2016-04-04T22:59:53 < emeb> err- vice versa
2016-04-04T23:00:13 < emeb> pull down for normal, pull up for bootloader.
2016-04-04T23:01:26 < jhg_> right, got it. my notes were right, my brain inverted it. =)
2016-04-04T23:01:37 < emeb> I can't criticize. :)
2016-04-04T23:02:29 < emeb> anyway - slow xtal start has prevented some of my F405 boards from going into DFU mode. reducing the loading caps fixed it.
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2016-04-04T23:03:25  * jhg_ looks for loading caps
2016-04-04T23:03:28 < emeb> but boards worked fine in normal mode so problem wasn't obvious.
2016-04-04T23:04:05 < Thorn> how does the bootloader know what frequency the xtal is btw? does it try multiple frequencies?
2016-04-04T23:04:50 < jhg_> emeb: 10 pf on the 25 MHz Xtal, and 6 pf on the 32.768 kHz Xtal
2016-04-04T23:04:58 < jhg_> (on each side)
2016-04-04T23:05:04 < emeb> should be OK.
2016-04-04T23:05:12 < emeb> 10pf seems a bit low, but depends on your xtal.
2016-04-04T23:15:58 < jhg_> well, time for tech support
2016-04-04T23:16:34 < jhg_> hmm... one more test. emeb, how did you measure HSE Xtal bringup timing?
2016-04-04T23:17:16 < bvernoux> 27pF is a good value for STM32F4 with 8Mhz crystal
2016-04-04T23:17:40 < bvernoux> + a resistor of 220ohm
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2016-04-04T23:21:46 < bvernoux> for a load cap of 20pF
2016-04-04T23:24:56 < emeb> jhg_: put scope probe on HSE output pin
2016-04-04T23:25:18 < emeb> watch how long it takes to turn on
2016-04-04T23:26:43  * jhg_ wishes he had the right tools for that
2016-04-04T23:27:09 < jhg_> AN2606 says that the DFU bootloader depends on TIM11
2016-04-04T23:28:52 < jhg_> I should check which bootloader version this F427 has...
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2016-04-04T23:36:20 < jhg_> 0x91
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2016-04-04T23:50:16 < jhg_> Forced Device mode?
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2016-04-05T00:01:23 < jhg_> perhaps they mean FS vs HS
2016-04-05T00:02:39 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLAxircXKR0 plane of the day
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2016-04-05T00:11:22 < Thorn> wtf, tme.eu added 23% VAT to my order
2016-04-05T00:11:35 < Thorn> http://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_en.htm  "If you sell goods to customers outside the EU, you do not charge VAT"
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2016-04-05T00:36:08 < Laurenceb_> I seem to have had a bit more luck with lsm9ds1
2016-04-05T00:36:18 < Laurenceb_> adding weights ontop lol
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2016-04-05T00:36:34 < Sync> dongs: do you have datasheets for rtl8367 shits?
2016-04-05T00:41:08 < karlp> Thorn: only if they're clever enough to work out how to take vat off.
2016-04-05T00:44:37 < Thorn> someone from Canada did manage have it removed in 2013 http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/bad-service-endemic-in-the-whole-world-now-anyone-deal-with-tme-eu/msg191980/#msg191980
2016-04-05T00:48:47 < karlp> davor: they sell discovery boards whole on ebay too,
2016-04-05T00:49:14 < karlp> buying a disco vs buying a cheap, undocumented breakout and a cheap undocumented often faulty stlink clone? you're not saving much.
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2016-04-05T00:51:56 < karlp> davor: the advantage of the disco boards is that you normally get a few peripherals on board to test out, and you can get _known working_ examples
2016-04-05T00:52:46 < emeb> +10
2016-04-05T00:54:54 < emeb> karlp: shouldn't you be at a protest somewhere, throwing yogurt and yak dung at parliament?
2016-04-05T00:55:04 < emeb> apparently everyone else in Iceland is there...
2016-04-05T00:55:55 < BrainDamage> all 100 of them?
2016-04-05T00:59:16 < Laurenceb_> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=67b_1459789305
2016-04-05T01:00:52 < emeb> "art"
2016-04-05T01:01:17 < emeb> Laurenceb_: any joy with that QFN?
2016-04-05T01:01:37 < Laurenceb_> think so
2016-04-05T01:01:44 < Laurenceb_> need to write proper test code lol
2016-04-05T01:01:53 < Laurenceb_> also its LGA not QFN
2016-04-05T01:01:58 < emeb> what'd you do differently?
2016-04-05T01:02:11 < Laurenceb_> added a weight on top during reflow
2016-04-05T01:02:15 < emeb> heh
2016-04-05T01:02:32 < Laurenceb_> I've used similar footprints before, but for 0.5mm pitch
2016-04-05T01:02:51 < Laurenceb_> I think ~0.35mm pitch needs more attention to wick effects
2016-04-05T01:03:13 < Laurenceb_> probably adding an extra ~0.3mm of pad outside the edge of the IC will fix it
2016-04-05T01:03:14 < emeb> ah - didn't realize it was so much smaller
2016-04-05T01:03:53 < Laurenceb_> it almost works atm, but not quite, the surface tension and stuff isnt quite right to pull excess solder outside from the underside of the IC
2016-04-05T01:03:54 < emeb> are the edges of the pins visible on the edge of the pkg?
2016-04-05T01:03:56 < Laurenceb_> no
2016-04-05T01:04:04 < emeb> ugh
2016-04-05T01:04:10 < emeb> hate that
2016-04-05T01:04:11 < Laurenceb_> in fact they start about 0.25mm underneath
2016-04-05T01:04:31 < Laurenceb_> also they oxidise very easily, which is why I could never fix the first attemp
2016-04-05T01:04:41 < emeb> that would explain a lot
2016-04-05T01:04:41 < Laurenceb_> either it works first attempt or it fails
2016-04-05T01:05:07 < Laurenceb_> adding an M2.5 nut is enough for force excess solder out from the sides
2016-04-05T01:06:31 < Laurenceb_> interesting that the sparkfun footprint has even less pad area than mine
2016-04-05T01:07:01 < Laurenceb_> https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/learn_tutorials/3/7/3/board_angled_quarter-cropped.jpg
2016-04-05T01:07:35 < Laurenceb_> maybe they fine tuned the stencil :P
2016-04-05T01:08:09 < mitrax> could also be the solder paste you used
2016-04-05T01:08:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2016-04-05T01:08:32 < Laurenceb_> its a fine balance of surface tension
2016-04-05T01:09:39 < mitrax> was it stored in a fridge?
2016-04-05T01:10:08 < Laurenceb_> no lol
2016-04-05T01:13:24 < mitrax> one of the guy i work with and who's in charge of the pnp machine & board mounting, always stores the paste in a fridge once it's been opened, otherwise it turns bad
2016-04-05T01:14:01 < Laurenceb_> yeah I know :P
2016-04-05T01:15:00 < karlp> emeb: I'm at home looking after the future of iceland, partner is out protesting to make sure the future happens :)
2016-04-05T01:15:13 < karlp> crowded protests are not places for babies in prams.
2016-04-05T01:15:33 < davor> karlp, you do have a point, it is always a gamble with *dirt* cheap stuff like the board and programmer I got
2016-04-05T01:16:17 < mitrax> imo it's a bit silly to get a stlink clone when you can get a genuine one for like $18
2016-04-05T01:16:41 < BrainDamage> or get a whole discovery board for the same price
2016-04-05T01:17:03 < karlp> ^^ that's what I recommend
2016-04-05T01:17:06 < davor> to be honest, I immediately went with the cheap clones because I didn't even realise the discovery boards are sold on ebay
2016-04-05T01:17:16 < karlp> you get a known working target, with proper docs, _and_ a known working debugger.
2016-04-05T01:17:25 < davor> and I have very little options besides ebay
2016-04-05T01:17:33 < kakimir> this lpc chip has rom api for almost all it's peripherals
2016-04-05T01:17:53 < davor> *very few
2016-04-05T01:20:17 < Laurenceb_> Darwins flashmob  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c3f_1459717646
2016-04-05T01:20:48 < davor> hm, at my local RS vendor it's cheaper to get an F3 discovery board than an F1 one
2016-04-05T01:21:30 < karlp> f1 disco is trash, don't buy that :)
2016-04-05T01:22:15 < BrainDamage> the f1 stlink is just horrible
2016-04-05T01:22:41 < BrainDamage> it abuses usb in ways it's not even funny for the sake of displaying few dumb links
2016-04-05T01:23:15 < BrainDamage> yes
2016-04-05T01:23:26 < BrainDamage> which relies on windows specific behviour too
2016-04-05T01:23:33 < BrainDamage> yes
2016-04-05T01:23:40 < BrainDamage> but the latter does make problems
2016-04-05T01:24:12 < BrainDamage> yes, the kernel has explicit blacklist for it
2016-04-05T01:24:40 < davor> f3 discovery board for 26 USD from my local RS vendor, that's not bad. though I'd have to come up with a proper project to justify spending more than a few bucks on something to toy with
2016-04-05T01:25:05 < BrainDamage> ohsix: first thing i googled http://fabooh.com/2014/03/16/how-to-deal-with-a-problematic-stm32-st-linkv1-device-and-ubuntu/
2016-04-05T01:25:20 < BrainDamage> i can find better links if you want, or you can always search yourself
2016-04-05T01:25:37 < karlp> texane/stlink has it too, most distros include the quirk now.
2016-04-05T01:26:02 < karlp> poitn is really taht the f1 disco is a) shitty f100. b) shitty stlinkv1, (no swo) c) not any cheaper than a newer disco
2016-04-05T01:26:37 < BrainDamage> ohsix: i know i am the one making the claim, but i am also the one being lazy and not caring enough to provide sufficient proof :p
2016-04-05T01:27:04 < BrainDamage> you can probably find a lot of documentation about it in the early stlink util commits
2016-04-05T01:28:04 < karlp> ohsix: it's "windows specific" in that the mass storage implementation works on windows, but not on linux
2016-04-05T01:28:30 < BrainDamage> yes, and spews quite a few kernel error messages if not blacklisted
2016-04-05T01:32:37 < karlp> ohsix: you can keep spouting off here about what it should or shouldn't do, but it doens't change what actualyl happens :)
2016-04-05T01:35:00 < emeb> karlp: +1000 for staying home with the sprout
2016-04-05T01:36:27 < kakimir> any lpc15xx gurus around?
2016-04-05T01:38:23 < kakimir> debugger initialization fails at point where part id is being read
2016-04-05T01:38:39 < kakimir> it gives random data
2016-04-05T01:39:39 < Laurenceb_> lol 8chan is down
2016-04-05T01:51:37 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/8chan/comments/4ddjvp/why_the_fuck_is_8chan_down/
2016-04-05T01:51:42 < Laurenceb_> lul its all over
2016-04-05T01:52:20 < kakimir> all your life is now erased
2016-04-05T01:52:52 < Laurenceb_> what will I do with my leisure tiem
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2016-04-05T01:57:55 < Laurenceb_> Josh lied 8chan died
2016-04-05T01:58:15 < Laurenceb_> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Ichverbot
2016-04-05T02:02:25 < mitrax> why you even pay attention to that crap totally eludes me :)
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2016-04-05T02:05:23 < mitrax> *hush* he's here
2016-04-05T02:05:35 < mitrax> oh hi crt
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2016-04-05T02:08:55 < mitrax> Molto bene, grazie
2016-04-05T02:09:46 < mitrax> that's a cat!
2016-04-05T02:09:50 < mitrax> right?
2016-04-05T02:10:10 < mitrax> crt: nice nail polish
2016-04-05T02:10:20 < mitrax> crt: i like that color
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2016-04-05T02:12:18 < mitrax> pumping
2016-04-05T02:13:13 < kakimir> I'm sleeping
2016-04-05T02:13:53 < kakimir> almost
2016-04-05T02:18:43 < kakimir> there is +20 parts made of uranium in 747
2016-04-05T02:20:11 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-05T02:20:39 < kakimir> high density parts needed in some control surface shiet to kill the flutter
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2016-04-05T02:26:08 < kakimir> of
2016-04-05T02:26:16 < kakimir> oh
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2016-04-05T02:26:54 < kakimir> so that trim tabs do not go crazy in airflow?
2016-04-05T02:28:23 < kakimir> or is it actually like counterweight thing?
2016-04-05T02:31:01 < kakimir> not in flight surfaces?
2016-04-05T02:32:37 < kakimir> crt: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4c/f7/e4/4cf7e4eacf20b2e72cb08700b2e4a274.jpg does it glow in dark?
2016-04-05T02:33:19 < Laurenceb_> oh hai mark
2016-04-05T02:33:51 < Laurenceb_> oh hai crt
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2016-04-05T02:36:33  * Laurenceb_ is raging
2016-04-05T02:36:46 < Laurenceb_> some perman00b broke my soldeirng iron
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2016-04-05T02:37:07 < Laurenceb_> and stole my tweezers
2016-04-05T02:37:41 < kakimir> you mean Laurenceb_ ?
2016-04-05T02:39:01 < kakimir> joke of the nite - now sleep<
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2016-04-05T02:45:05 < Laurenceb_> snapped the end off
2016-04-05T02:45:22 < Laurenceb_> also Iranian "c#" guy can only actually do labview
2016-04-05T02:45:41 < Laurenceb_> and someone seems to be turning one of the rooms into a copy of Chris-Chans lair
2016-04-05T02:46:01 < Laurenceb_> at the rate things are going I'll turn up for work and the building will be full of feral cats
2016-04-05T02:46:31 < emeb> heh
2016-04-05T02:48:03 < Laurenceb_> as it is it stinks of BO and the corridor is filling with fast food wrappers
2016-04-05T02:48:29 < emeb> no janitors about, eh?
2016-04-05T02:49:14 < emeb> sounds like time to start looking for another job
2016-04-05T02:52:36 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-05T03:04:34 < ds2> Mmmmmmm cats
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2016-04-05T03:09:20 < Laurenceb_> putting these up at work soon http://teen-style.prostoprint.com/static/products/thumb-1e03541b065d685d7201bece5dbef9c8.png
2016-04-05T03:10:21 < Sync> kek
2016-04-05T03:10:55 < Thorn> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/stock-electronic-image-fails/
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2016-04-05T03:13:49 < Laurenceb_> kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/is-pump-necessary/
2016-04-05T03:13:54 < Laurenceb_> not everyone needs to pump
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2016-04-05T03:16:39 < Thorn> is there practical difference between 14awg and 16awg silicone wire (for test leads)
2016-04-05T03:21:40 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/8chan/comments/4ddjvp/why_the_fuck_is_8chan_down/d1q1c57
2016-04-05T03:21:42 < Laurenceb_> truth
2016-04-05T03:24:07 < Laurenceb_> try adultwork, book an outcall
2016-04-05T03:24:41 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/0thY4L.jpg
2016-04-05T03:26:32 < Laurenceb_> like crt doesnt know what an outcall is
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2016-04-05T03:29:22 < Laurenceb_> www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=outcall
2016-04-05T03:30:17 < Laurenceb_> <crt> 1.5hrs passed and still no cunt here
2016-04-05T03:31:05 < Laurenceb_> sure :P
2016-04-05T03:31:09 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/lQXxEZ.jpg
2016-04-05T03:32:35 < Laurenceb_> lol are they audiophool?
2016-04-05T03:32:42 < Thorn> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TASI-8620-Dual-Channel-Digital-Thermometer-Backlight-K-Type-Thermocouple-2-Temp-/201041654030
2016-04-05T03:34:04 < Laurenceb_> I want to buy some audiophool microphones for drone detection
2016-04-05T03:34:10 < Laurenceb_> but prices are crazy :-/
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2016-04-05T03:35:50 < Laurenceb_> this on a tethered blimp
2016-04-05T03:35:51 < Laurenceb_> http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20060020679.pdf
2016-04-05T03:36:01 < Laurenceb_> shit I gave away my business plan lol
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2016-04-05T03:38:19 < karlp> ohsix: yes, of course, stlink v1, 2, 2.1 all have different usb pids.
2016-04-05T03:48:50 < Laurenceb_> crt is compensating for lack of 8chan
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2016-04-05T03:52:33 < Laurenceb_> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
2016-04-05T03:52:39 < Laurenceb_> i spot irc lurkers
2016-04-05T03:53:49 < dongs> sourcerer: /lastlog -new dongs
2016-04-05T03:53:51 < dongs> err.
2016-04-05T03:53:59 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/jEt9fJ.jpg
2016-04-05T03:54:03 < dongs> Sync: no, unless internet does
2016-04-05T03:54:16 < dongs> gigabutt switch
2016-04-05T03:54:21 < dongs> realtek is usally pretty cunty wiht datasheets
2016-04-05T03:55:59 < Laurenceb_> oh shit crt is channeling the crabposting
2016-04-05T03:57:37 < Laurenceb_> check it out crt http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=propane
2016-04-05T03:58:07 < Laurenceb_> inb4 mollusc posting
2016-04-05T04:04:16 < ReadError> Drugs.Map.Of.Britain.S01E01.720p.WEB.h264-spamTV.mkv
2016-04-05T04:04:21 < ReadError> thinkin about u Laurenceb
2016-04-05T04:04:43 < ReadError> this is about 'mamba'
2016-04-05T04:04:45 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-05T04:04:50 < ReadError> gay UK name
2016-04-05T04:06:19 < Laurenceb_> its the cake that worries me
2016-04-05T04:06:45 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w
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2016-04-05T04:50:31 < upgrdman_> wtf. getting trolled by one of my coworkers. net connected to P0.11 is labeled P1_20 ... :/
2016-04-05T04:50:38 < Laurenceb_> 8chan's RAID controller failed
2016-04-05T04:50:43 < dongs> upgrdman_: nice
2016-04-05T04:50:47 < Laurenceb_> oh no RAIDs now
2016-04-05T04:51:06 < dongs> LPCAIDS
2016-04-05T04:51:15  * upgrdman_ *nods
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2016-04-05T04:51:28 < Laurenceb_> We have no idea how long the raid will take to rebuild. One of the drives is missing for some reason
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2016-04-05T04:54:55 < dongs> sounds like pro lunix admins
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2016-04-05T05:03:18 < Laurenceb_> propane posting is a chan meme
2016-04-05T05:03:36 < Laurenceb_> everyone starts talking about propane to confuse newfags
2016-04-05T05:03:52 < dongs> funny level: Laurenceb
2016-04-05T05:04:15 < Laurenceb_> and so it begins
2016-04-05T05:04:54 < dongs> fake *and* gay
2016-04-05T05:05:09 < Laurenceb_> https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/04/04/2316240/us-army-hopes-to-outfit-soldiers-with-tiny-drones-by-2018
2016-04-05T05:05:15 < Laurenceb_> job for dongs
2016-04-05T05:05:35 < dongs> any zano references in comments
2016-04-05T05:05:53 < Laurenceb_> lulz
2016-04-05T05:05:55 < dongs> cuz remember zano had a super serious military version
2016-04-05T05:05:57 < Laurenceb_> zanoposting
2016-04-05T05:06:00 < dongs> made with 20 layers of flexpcb
2016-04-05T05:06:16 < Laurenceb_> my last flexipcb project failed
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2016-04-05T05:06:33 < Laurenceb_> turns out you get work hardening if you arent careful
2016-04-05T05:06:43 < Laurenceb_> then it cracks after a few months of use
2016-04-05T05:06:57 < Laurenceb_> dunno how HDD arms work
2016-04-05T05:07:10 < Laurenceb_> must use some sort of copper alloy rather than copper
2016-04-05T05:09:08 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hornet_Nano
2016-04-05T05:09:15 < Laurenceb_> lul contract already won
2016-04-05T05:09:34 < Laurenceb_> gunna get smashed by soldiers
2016-04-05T05:10:45 < Laurenceb_> holy shit thermal IR video with 1 mile range
2016-04-05T05:10:49 < Laurenceb_> fapfapfap
2016-04-05T05:10:58 < Laurenceb_> zano btfo
2016-04-05T05:12:13 < aandrew>  can transmit video streams or high-resolution still images via a digital data-link with a 1 mi (1.6 km) range
2016-04-05T05:12:17 < aandrew> wouldn't mind some of those radios
2016-04-05T05:12:42 < dongs> lol
2016-04-05T05:12:52 < aandrew> the battery tech also sounds decent
2016-04-05T05:12:57 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2016-04-05T05:13:19 < Laurenceb_> I guess ~250kbps should be possible
2016-04-05T05:13:33 < dongs> thats just waht zano guys sold them
2016-04-05T05:13:35 < dongs> doesnt mean it exists
2016-04-05T05:14:04 < dongs> They are small enough to fit in one hand and weigh just over half an ounce (16 g, including batteries).
2016-04-05T05:14:06 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jFrcXqqbY
2016-04-05T05:14:07 < dongs> wut
2016-04-05T05:14:16 < Laurenceb_> lul "to save a life"
2016-04-05T05:14:34 < Laurenceb_> moar like to kill once they use 250kbps h.264
2016-04-05T05:14:40 < Laurenceb_> quality looks good enough
2016-04-05T05:15:04 < Laurenceb_> but if the h.264 encode is like GoPro it would eat the batteries
2016-04-05T05:16:16 < dongs> i dont see how that shit can be 16grams and do all of that
2016-04-05T05:16:27 < Laurenceb_> I dunno
2016-04-05T05:16:34 < dongs> (and have a battery as part of that weight
2016-04-05T05:16:47 < Laurenceb_> radio range and flight time seems doable
2016-04-05T05:16:59 < Laurenceb_> dunno about digital video over that range
2016-04-05T05:17:17 < Laurenceb_> within the tiny remaining power budget
2016-04-05T05:17:40 < Laurenceb_> lol maybe the spec is for 20 minutes flight time with 10 seconds of video :P
2016-04-05T05:18:12 < Laurenceb_> video asic gets fired up for a few seconds... contract goals met !
2016-04-05T05:18:47 < Laurenceb_> and they pray it doesnt brownout the whole system zano wifi style
2016-04-05T05:20:05 < Laurenceb_> zano was pretty funny
2016-04-05T05:21:00 < dongs> did they get completely rekt/shutdown
2016-04-05T05:21:04 < dongs> or are tehy s till trying to troll
2016-04-05T05:21:32 < dongs> last i heard coleco got tired of trolling and pulled out
2016-04-05T05:21:41 < dongs> ya ok
2016-04-05T05:22:28 < dongs> now some dong has a bunch of usless jaguar molds
2016-04-05T05:23:58 < dongs> i rmember hwen like 3 jaguar units arrived to the local shitshop
2016-04-05T05:24:07 < dongs> they sat tehre for years and nobody wanted them
2016-04-05T05:24:18 < Laurenceb_> I remember being surprised that it would boot with their preman00b power supply design
2016-04-05T05:24:28 < Laurenceb_> turns out it wouldnt
2016-04-05T05:24:33 < Laurenceb_> jaguar molds?
2016-04-05T05:24:44 < dongs> it was $200 or somecrazyshit in 1990s money
2016-04-05T05:25:06 < dongs> i did score written off nintendovirtualboys for like 3 for $99 tho
2016-04-05T05:25:14 < dongs> nobody wanted those either
2016-04-05T05:30:39 < scrts> sup dongs?
2016-04-05T05:30:49 < dongs> bloggin'
2016-04-05T05:31:00 < dongs> need to finish laying out a board before 3pm and havent even started
2016-04-05T05:31:00 < scrts> I've heard you've stm32hacked panama lawyers
2016-04-05T05:31:03 < scrts> good job.
2016-04-05T05:31:28 < scrts> share the link to your blog
2016-04-05T05:31:52 < dongs> ur wrong
2016-04-05T05:31:54 < dongs> its tarduino.cc
2016-04-05T05:32:06 < dongs> no, i dont have norgay passport
2016-04-05T05:32:16 < dongs> which is required to get a .no shit.
2016-04-05T05:32:19 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-05T05:35:14 < Rob235> dongs: what do you think? http://cdn6.bigcommerce.com/s-ss4br/products/1013/images/12506/STEREO_TO_J_HOOK_BARREL_PERC_WATER_PIPE__40810.1442811896.1280.1280.jpg?c=2
2016-04-05T05:35:34 < dongs> looks like stoner shit.
2016-04-05T05:35:57 < Rob235> what do you use?
2016-04-05T05:37:05 < dongs> Rob235: http://i.imgur.com/w3EnSYO.jpg
2016-04-05T05:37:25 < dongs> crt's link is close
2016-04-05T05:37:25 < Rob235> ha
2016-04-05T05:37:59 < Rob235> I just ordered the one I posted, will be here wednesday, haven't had something besides a bowl in years
2016-04-05T05:43:59 < Rob235> I made one out of two mason jars, that's what made me want to get a real one
2016-04-05T05:47:09 < dongs> what do you call a dickstarter that missed the early bird pricing levels?
2016-04-05T05:47:21 < dongs> on time bird
2016-04-05T05:50:21 < Laurenceb_> lul who knows
2016-04-05T05:50:43 < Laurenceb_> they seem to be based in a shack in the Philippines
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2016-04-05T06:33:01 < dongs> • Proximity distance up to 200 mm
2016-04-05T06:35:51 < dongs> recommended applications: selfie sticks
2016-04-05T06:41:02 < dongs> 65535 shades of gray
2016-04-05T06:45:44 < dongs> pink leds are legit pink.
2016-04-05T06:45:53 < dongs> running it at 3V/6mA
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2016-04-05T07:50:00 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251927167516
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2016-04-05T08:32:46 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/texas-instruments/LMZ21700SILT/296-38544-1-ND/5034152
2016-04-05T08:32:49 < dongs> wat
2016-04-05T08:33:28 < dongs> its like aidsfruit capacitor breakout board
2016-04-05T08:33:44 < dongs> totally
2016-04-05T08:34:01 < jpa-> haha
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2016-04-05T08:34:06 < jpa-> funny package
2016-04-05T08:34:12 < jpa-> i wonder where they hid the chip
2016-04-05T08:34:21 < dongs> if you click datasheet, its inside the FR4
2016-04-05T08:34:24 < PeterM> its a DC-DC converter, iirc all the components are buried in the fiberglass PCB and has a ceramic cap ontop
2016-04-05T08:34:33 < dongs> cap->coil, no?
2016-04-05T08:34:33 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-05T08:34:47 < PeterM> yer my bad
2016-04-05T08:36:18 < jpa-> still needs a crapton of external parts :F
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2016-04-05T08:36:41 < emeb_mac> dat inductor
2016-04-05T08:37:31 < emeb_mac> ya - datasheet shows chip embedded inside the PCB
2016-04-05T08:37:34 < jpa-> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/murata-electronics-north-america/LXDC2HL33A-055/490-5795-1-ND/2783652  this looks saner
2016-04-05T08:38:04 < dongs> that price is silly
2016-04-05T08:38:08 < dongs> just to get it in a module
2016-04-05T08:43:04 < dongs> digikey product training modules are fucking weird
2016-04-05T08:43:08 < dongs> it sounds totally like TTS
2016-04-05T08:55:47 < jpa-> http://www.digikey.com.au/product-detail/en/on-shore-technology-inc/OSTOQ025351/ED2700-ND/2351776   gay porn on digikey
2016-04-05T08:57:10 < PeterM> hahaha
2016-04-05T08:57:13 < PeterM> ive used those before
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2016-04-05T09:13:06 < Lemming> I'd say their photography person got a bit bored jpa-
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2016-04-05T10:28:19 < dongs> yes.
2016-04-05T10:30:30 < dongs> how do you pronounce those NEC/renesas part numbers that start with mu?
2016-04-05T10:30:58 < dongs> i have some internal jap path name from their software logs and they call it "yuPDblabla"
2016-04-05T10:31:28 < dongs> also lol @ dual core cpu in 2012
2016-04-05T10:31:28 < dongs> \t (00:00:45)     Journal start - Thu Feb 09 16:40:49 2012
2016-04-05T10:31:28 < dongs> \t (00:00:45)         Host=DHMPC045 User=j-yamaya Pid=4980 CPUs=2
2016-04-05T10:39:47 < dongs> upgrdman: this is wat i was talking about for USB switch/overcurrent shit http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/diodes-incorporated/AP2191SG-13/AP2191SGDICT-ND/1964735
2016-04-05T10:41:42 < dongs> The entire information in this sheet is subject to change without notice. No part of the sheet may be copied or reproduced in any form or by any means without the prior written consent of Renesas Electronics Corporation.
2016-04-05T10:41:54 < dongs> does copying a PDF count
2016-04-05T10:42:01 < dongs> need to consult lawyer
2016-04-05T10:42:06 < dongs> before ctrl+c ctrl+v
2016-04-05T10:42:21 < PeterM> i think richtek make those but cheaper
2016-04-05T10:42:35 < dongs> they're likely somee standard pinout
2016-04-05T10:42:57 < dongs> PeterM: this was from discussion how I have this $250 anus z170 board that just used PTCs on its usb ports
2016-04-05T10:43:04 < dongs> such cheapfucks wow
2016-04-05T10:43:22 < PeterM> i dunno, in mad huge quantities there wouldnt be much in it
2016-04-05T10:43:57 < PeterM> anless you get suprechink brank ptc
2016-04-05T10:44:01 < PeterM> brand even
2016-04-05T10:44:10 < dongs> chiangirl has some bourns clones that look pretty legit
2016-04-05T10:44:26 < dongs> or maybe they're legit bounrs i duno but theeyre cheap
2016-04-05T10:44:41 < dongs> anyway, point is, a board that claims to be pro should probly use something less shitty for usb ports
2016-04-05T10:44:42 < PeterM> lke 10c ea or less?
2016-04-05T10:44:46 < dongs> less i think
2016-04-05T10:44:47 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-05T10:45:10 < dongs> i used them for rs485/dmx shite protection so quality didnt raelly matter
2016-04-05T10:45:34 < PeterM> fairy snuff
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2016-04-05T10:58:57 < upgrdman> dongs, hmm neat. so is the benefit over ptc just being able to tell when it's tripped? any that it wont just current-limit but cut-off?
2016-04-05T10:59:06 < upgrdman> s/any/and
2016-04-05T10:59:26 < dongs> and can also be used as a switch to turn port on/off
2016-04-05T10:59:27 < dongs> but yeah
2016-04-05T10:59:39 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-05T11:00:00 < upgrdman> ya my $35 7-port usb3 hub has a soft power switch, but its not per-port
2016-04-05T11:00:08 < upgrdman> prolly just a pmos on vdd, lol
2016-04-05T11:00:24 < PeterM> probs
2016-04-05T11:00:34 < dongs> i bought a gook hub with pushbutton on/offs, and the leds fade out when you power it off
2016-04-05T11:00:47 < PeterM> caps bro
2016-04-05T11:00:50 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-05T11:00:59 < dongs> they have the switch before the caps for each port i gueess
2016-04-05T11:02:59 < dongs> importing 26megs R2COMCAD-ascii pcb, watching altidong chug
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2016-04-05T11:12:52 < dongs> lol, still importing
2016-04-05T11:12:53 < dongs> what a fucking joke
2016-04-05T11:13:03 < dongs> like 60% done
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2016-04-05T11:21:37 < upgrdman> r2comcad == allegro?
2016-04-05T11:22:42 < dongs> ya
2016-04-05T11:22:44 < dongs> 80%
2016-04-05T11:23:04 < dongs> i installed some pirated allegro filth just to do .brd->asc conversion
2016-04-05T11:23:09 < dongs> teh GUI is absolutely awful
2016-04-05T11:23:28 < dongs> in vmware
2016-04-05T11:25:22 < PeterM> aids
2016-04-05T11:28:04 < kakimir> dont you always do
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2016-04-05T11:37:21 < dongs> holy shit import ocmplete
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2016-04-05T11:54:15 < dongs> more proof kikecad causes cancer
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2016-04-05T11:54:26 < dongs> some jap sent pcb t o assembly, wrong footprints for every oscillator
2016-04-05T11:54:37 < dongs> he sent like 8035 shit parts but footprint is 3225
2016-04-05T11:55:46 < dongs> oh wtf
2016-04-05T11:55:53 < dongs> these have 3225 pads on the bottom
2016-04-05T11:55:56 < dongs> but the package is wide
2016-04-05T11:56:48 < zyp> haha, wat
2016-04-05T11:57:32 < dongs> yea i duno its some dumb jap oscilaltor
2016-04-05T11:57:42 < dongs> KC5032A12.0000CMGE00
2016-04-05T11:57:55 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/avx-corp-kyocera-corp/KC5032A12.0000CMGE00/1253-1285-1-ND/4867216
2016-04-05T11:58:05 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/Renders/EPSON%20ELECTRONICS%20AMERICA%20INC-SEMICONDUCTOR/SG5032-CAN,CBN,CCN-Series(4-SMD).jpg
2016-04-05T11:58:08 < dongs> it kinda looks like this
2016-04-05T11:58:56 < PeterM> may aswell use a hc-49 if youre gonna waste space liek that
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2016-04-05T12:10:10 < MightyPork> any timer/pwm pros here
2016-04-05T12:10:15 < MightyPork> I'm stuck with this -> http://pastebin.com/ckCpGwvR
2016-04-05T12:10:20 < MightyPork> see anything wrong?
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2016-04-05T12:10:40 < MightyPork> it's F302r8
2016-04-05T12:11:47 < zyp> you're probably forgetting that extra output enable gate that's only present on TIM1/TIM8
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2016-04-05T12:12:02 < zyp> that's what I missed first time I tried doing PWM from TIM1 at least
2016-04-05T12:12:37 < qyx> yeah, that break whatever thing
2016-04-05T12:12:47 < qyx> 	timer_enable_break_main_output(TIM1);
2016-04-05T12:12:55 < MightyPork> huh didnt know that's there. any idea what its called exactly?
2016-04-05T12:13:10 < zyp> sorry, I don't use stdlib
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2016-04-05T12:15:19 < dongs> TIM1? yeah  enable BDTR
2016-04-05T12:15:26 < dongs> if you want any shit to output
2016-04-05T12:16:49 < MightyPork> I have this x-nucleo kit with BLDC motor, trying to get it moving
2016-04-05T12:16:55 < dongs> nice
2016-04-05T12:17:06 < dongs> you might wanna start with code that works
2016-04-05T12:17:08 < dongs> before you have no motor
2016-04-05T12:17:09 < dongs> or not fets
2016-04-05T12:17:14 < dongs> er or no fets
2016-04-05T12:17:46 < MightyPork> if you mean the example that comes with it, it didn't work ...
2016-04-05T12:17:51 < dongs> :(
2016-04-05T12:18:15 < MightyPork> but maybe I fucked it up. had to convert it to makefile to at least compile it
2016-04-05T12:18:59 < zyp> fets are overrated, just hook up vdd to line voltage, then you can drive motors directly from gpio
2016-04-05T12:23:19 < dongs> englishman: originals of that switch are SKRPACE10.
2016-04-05T12:26:45 < MightyPork> yay pwm works now, it was indeed the BDTR thing
2016-04-05T12:27:24 < zyp> :)
2016-04-05T12:29:20 < qyx> last time I naively copypasted a libopencm3 pwm example for TIM2
2016-04-05T12:29:29 < qyx> and spent like 2 hours to get it working on TIM1
2016-04-05T12:30:45 < MightyPork> I moved from locm3, but starting to think stdperiph isn't that great either...
2016-04-05T12:31:07 < MightyPork> all this configuration would really use some GUI tool, except HAL/cube absolutely suck
2016-04-05T12:31:59 < MightyPork> is there something else to try?
2016-04-05T12:32:23 < dongs> they suck but tehy certainly solve teh very problem youre having now
2016-04-05T12:37:13 < MightyPork> I tried to use some ST library yesterday. huge nope
2016-04-05T12:37:16 < MightyPork> just look - https://gist.github.com/MightyPork/6f12c897def0a1ce88a8bce11ceaf2cc
2016-04-05T12:37:21 < MightyPork> what moron would do this
2016-04-05T12:37:57 < MightyPork> I copied the c for you to see
2016-04-05T12:38:04 < dongs> MightyPork: @author  System lab - Automation and Motion control team
2016-04-05T12:38:06 < dongs> tahts who
2016-04-05T12:38:12 < dongs> i see ohsix is autisming again
2016-04-05T12:38:14 < dongs> time to get back to work
2016-04-05T12:38:25 < jpa-> luls @ code
2016-04-05T12:40:01 < lorenzo> that's probably autogenerated code for the automatic code generator of automated code
2016-04-05T12:40:13 < lorenzo> it's not that someone sat down and wrote that
2016-04-05T12:40:16 < lorenzo> I hope lol
2016-04-05T12:40:26 < zyp> haha, wat
2016-04-05T12:40:40 < lorenzo> esp stuff like the  void MC_UI_INIT()
2016-04-05T12:41:00 < mitrax> the best part is in CMD_STATUS()
2016-04-05T12:41:17 < jpa-> lorenzo: nope.. row7aTxBuffer, row7TxBuffer, row7bTxBuffer, row7cTxBuffer, row71TxBuffer    no autogenerator is so random :)
2016-04-05T12:41:30 < zyp> MightyPork, if you're feeling adventorous and want to try another lib, you could try my shit
2016-04-05T12:41:39 < zyp> MightyPork, but that sure as hell won't give you any GUI tools
2016-04-05T12:42:03 < zyp> and you better be confortable with flipping bits in registers :p
2016-04-05T12:42:08 < MightyPork> zyp sure anything is worth a try
2016-04-05T12:42:50 < MightyPork> tbh I would try 2 write my own gui stuff but there's too many stms..
2016-04-05T12:43:09 < MightyPork> no drugs no
2016-04-05T12:43:28 < MightyPork> zyp link?
2016-04-05T12:43:57 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/
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2016-04-05T12:45:20 < MightyPork> uuuh it's c++
2016-04-05T12:45:49 < mitrax> i knew that would come
2016-04-05T12:46:08 < zyp> of course it is, I don't have patience to dick around with C bullshit
2016-04-05T12:46:16 < zyp> :D
2016-04-05T12:46:52 < MightyPork> maybe I should give c++ a go sometime. all this func pointer struct crap I'm writing could be easier with classes
2016-04-05T12:49:11 < MightyPork> looks even worse than java tho
2016-04-05T12:49:28 < mitrax> nah
2016-04-05T12:54:06 < mitrax> btw, did you tell the store or not?
2016-04-05T12:55:09 < mitrax> about the $33 vap stuff you "stole" from them :)
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2016-04-05T13:08:41 < mitrax> fine, be that way
2016-04-05T13:08:47  * mitrax stabs MightyPork in the snout
2016-04-05T13:09:16 < MightyPork> oh you were talking to me??
2016-04-05T13:10:10  * mitrax rips off MightyPork ears
2016-04-05T13:10:11 < mitrax> yes
2016-04-05T13:10:28 < MightyPork> no idea what you meant
2016-04-05T13:10:55 < mitrax> ... ok i just realized it was Rob235 something and not you
2016-04-05T13:11:02 < mitrax> sorry
2016-04-05T13:11:19 < MightyPork> I thought so, s why I didn't react
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2016-04-05T13:35:48 < mitrax> once you've erased a flash sector, each byte of that sector can be written to individually no matter the order right? i'm asking cause i plan to write the header part of the application firmware as a last step when reflashing
2016-04-05T13:36:37 < jpa-> not sure of each byte, but each word or whatever
2016-04-05T13:37:32 < mitrax> err yeah word my bad
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2016-04-05T13:39:07 < dongs> you acn even write into unerased sector as long as youre only writing zeros
2016-04-05T13:39:13 < dongs> or whatever, not flipping bits
2016-04-05T13:41:55 < qyx> yep, I used that as a "fuse bits", a structure initialized to 0xff in the .text section for write-once configuration
2016-04-05T13:46:27 < dongs> cool
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2016-04-05T14:35:11 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQYRen_MIA the last words of this video sum it up
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2016-04-05T14:43:40 < dongs> https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/TvsJHCNyh31hW.TKpmwuQQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9Njc3O2g9MTAwMQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/a393e62d628284f0178fff748013ebbf
2016-04-05T14:43:44 < dongs> lol.
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2016-04-05T15:00:20 < dongs> holy fuck
2016-04-05T15:00:26 < dongs> talking tom cat shit on assdroid is complete fucking spam
2016-04-05T15:00:35 < dongs> COMPLETE AN OFFER TO GET <SOME ITEM>
2016-04-05T15:00:43 < dongs> AN OFFER, LOL
2016-04-05T15:00:44 < jadew> you're using talking tom?
2016-04-05T15:00:52 < dongs> i just downloaded it to check out
2016-04-05T15:00:55 < dongs> uninstalled in 10 seconds
2016-04-05T15:01:16 < jadew> my son loves it, we had to uinstall it because he started enjoying beating it
2016-04-05T15:01:36 < dongs> im not gonna keep anything on phone that has full-screen ads
2016-04-05T15:01:38 < dongs> they can go fuck themselves
2016-04-05T15:01:49 < jadew> root your phone
2016-04-05T15:01:56 < jadew> and edit the hosts file
2016-04-05T15:02:22 < jadew> not sure if it's safe for work, but it's mesmerizing: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RtSzGd05icI/hqdefault.jpg
2016-04-05T15:02:37 < dongs> trash
2016-04-05T15:03:03 < jadew> yes, I approve! :thumbsup:
2016-04-05T15:03:47 < jadew> odds are that if I google for stm32, I'll get at least 3 pictures with naked chicks
2016-04-05T15:03:59 < jadew> no matter what I search for, I get a couple of those in
2016-04-05T15:04:53 < jadew> hmm, nothing
2016-04-05T15:07:00 < jadew> this is the closest I got: http://www.robotshop.com/media/files/images2/stm32-m4-microcontroller-starter-kit-3-large.jpg
2016-04-05T15:07:42 < PeterM> jadew, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePG6zUYvUZg
2016-04-05T15:08:53 < jadew> PeterM, those are some tight dresses
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2016-04-05T15:10:22 < dongs> man do orcock users ever name nets
2016-04-05T15:10:23 < dongs> holy shit
2016-04-05T15:10:33 < dongs> staring at this board with > 1000 nets and everyone of htem is like N2423742893467
2016-04-05T15:12:02 < zyp> orcad users are too pro for that
2016-04-05T15:13:57 < PeterM> jesus atleast with altidong the autogenerated netnames make sense
2016-04-05T15:14:30 < PeterM> NetC5_2 well that clearly goes to C5, pin 2
2016-04-05T15:14:49 < dongs> yeah exactly
2016-04-05T15:16:03 < ReadError> attn dongs
2016-04-05T15:16:13 < ReadError> <@miek> http://i.imgur.com/GtaWyVR.png
2016-04-05T15:16:13 < ReadError> <@miek> i can't get over how funny that layout is - this is apparently from someone outsourcing pcb layout to freelancer.com
2016-04-05T15:16:25 < dongs> yea man, i pasted that in here liek a month ago
2016-04-05T15:16:25 < ReadError> <@miek> he's clearly seen all the bypass caps on the schematic, but not really understood what they're for or that they shouldn't be 1206
2016-04-05T15:16:36 < dongs> and then repasted into another opensores channel
2016-04-05T15:16:37 < dongs> lo
2016-04-05T15:16:45 < dongs> i have the altium source files for that board.
2016-04-05T15:16:58 < ReadError> oh lol
2016-04-05T15:17:08 < ReadError> was it a project you put up?
2016-04-05T15:17:12 < dongs> lol no
2016-04-05T15:17:17 < dongs> some paki kept putting it up
2016-04-05T15:17:59 < PeterM> hit "fuck it lets go" button and forgot it actually has to work.
2016-04-05T15:18:41 < dongs> that board would acutally be doable but the schematic and layout is full of fail
2016-04-05T15:19:12 < PeterM> i dont know the manufacturering process capabilities
2016-04-05T15:19:23 < dongs> nah its just standard 5mil stuff with like 0.5/0.3 vias
2016-04-05T15:19:37 < dongs> 6L or something. shrug
2016-04-05T15:19:42 < PeterM> what pitch is the BGA
2016-04-05T15:19:57 < dongs> 0.8, i think, way too lazy to open
2016-04-05T15:20:01 < dongs> but the balls are staggered
2016-04-05T15:20:04 < dongs> so you can stick vias between them
2016-04-05T15:20:09 < dongs> its made for cheap china manufacturing
2016-04-05T15:20:09 < PeterM> ahh fair nuff
2016-04-05T15:20:14 < dongs> some MTK shit
2016-04-05T15:20:30 < PeterM> is it, it doenst look staggered
2016-04-05T15:20:37 < ReadError> so if someone can make the schematic, why not the pcb?
2016-04-05T15:20:42 < ReadError> just didnt have the time?
2016-04-05T15:20:45 < dongs> ..
2016-04-05T15:21:07 < PeterM> infact it doesnt look liek fucking anything
2016-04-05T15:21:14 < PeterM> it looks fuckign rubbish
2016-04-05T15:22:15 < dongs> one of the requirements of original project was
2016-04-05T15:22:19 < dongs> "add pullups to I2C buses"
2016-04-05T15:22:23 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/R7MkAEI.png
2016-04-05T15:22:26 < dongs> this is what "eddy" did
2016-04-05T15:23:02 < dongs> i duno the fuck those harness thigns do as I never used them, but to me that looks like he shorted all i2c buses together and pulled htem up
2016-04-05T15:23:57 < PeterM> indeed it does
2016-04-05T15:24:08 < PeterM> gave all the i2c busses same net
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2016-04-05T15:34:35 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/pvQbsVe.png
2016-04-05T15:34:41 < dongs> duno man there's 36 pages in that  schematic
2016-04-05T15:34:43 < dongs> and every page is lol
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2016-04-05T15:48:25 < ReadError> lol so he put in 1206 caps in the schematic ?
2016-04-05T15:48:32 < ReadError> or the freelancer guy changed them
2016-04-05T15:51:32 < PeterM> 100pf 1206? what are they, 600v rated
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2016-04-05T15:56:43 < dongs> ReadError: the modifications were like.. "add some bypass capsa, pullup i2c, move some connctor shit somewhre bla bla
2016-04-05T15:56:46 < dongs> some simple-ish stuff
2016-04-05T15:58:15 < dongs> the best part: guy who made that garbage acutally posted it under his "portfolio" on feelancer
2016-04-05T15:58:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/LeoTheFreelancer.html
2016-04-05T15:58:31 < dongs> https://cdn3.f-cdn.com//files/download/26687849/7c3413.jpg
2016-04-05T15:58:34 < dongs> you probly cant see, so just some links
2016-04-05T15:58:40 < dongs> https://cdn3.f-cdn.com//files/download/26687756/c5a2fd.jpg
2016-04-05T15:58:44 < dongs> all gray shit = 1206 caps
2016-04-05T15:59:26 < ReadError> lol did he get paid for this ?
2016-04-05T15:59:33 < dongs> i guess so
2016-04-05T16:01:48 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Answer-question-that-have-about/
2016-04-05T16:01:54 < dongs> "Answer question that I have about my own project"
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2016-04-05T16:02:38 < dongs> no good shit on faggotlancer today
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2016-04-05T16:53:04 < dongs> haha.. some jap from pericom emailed me just now from work's email address about some appnote i asked
2016-04-05T16:53:16 < dongs> time in jp : 10.53pm
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2016-04-05T16:57:15 < Sync> worky worky
2016-04-05T17:00:15 < dongs> ill probly just reply nothx cuz i found something better from renesas
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2016-04-05T17:15:01 < zyp> dongs, I remember when I worked for the STE, some guys in japan office were often still there when it was around time to go home from norway office
2016-04-05T17:15:14 < dongs> terrible
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2016-04-05T17:54:24 < Laurenceb> mexico will pay for my lsm9ds1 issues
2016-04-05T17:54:27 < Laurenceb> I'll make sure of it
2016-04-05T17:54:40 < Sync> kek
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2016-04-05T18:21:52 < ReadError> yay PeterM, got a local grabbing those big ass 6600mah packs
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2016-04-05T18:41:21 < aandrew> < Laurenceb> mexico will pay for my lsm9ds1 issues
2016-04-05T18:41:22 < aandrew> lol
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2016-04-05T19:03:52 < PeterM> ReadError, so you gonna get some boards made up and make your own packs from em?
2016-04-05T19:04:19 < ReadError> ill do some boards when I figure out the BMS stuff
2016-04-05T19:04:29 < ReadError> need to see whats up on that first
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2016-04-05T19:05:12 < PeterM> psssh
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2016-04-05T19:05:30 < ReadError> wat
2016-04-05T19:05:40 < PeterM> dont need no stinkin bms
2016-04-05T19:05:59 < PeterM> if your gonna charge them as 2x 6s packs
2016-04-05T19:06:18 < PeterM> all you gonna do is make sure you dont over discharge and oyu can do that i nthe esc
2016-04-05T19:06:46 < ReadError> well for now ill charge them as 4s
2016-04-05T19:10:49 < ReadError> hmm theres not even an off the shelf charging IC that can handle 12s
2016-04-05T19:11:32 < ReadError> http://www.linear.com/product/LTC4020
2016-04-05T19:13:43 < PeterM> do oyu want some lt3791s?
2016-04-05T19:14:54 < PeterM> they're capable of 12s
2016-04-05T19:15:29 < PeterM> ie, can do cc, cv and have a c/10 pin you can tie to enable
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2016-04-05T19:21:05 < PeterM> oh, also, http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=58976
2016-04-05T19:21:21 < PeterM> jsut incase they run out of 4s packs at that other place
2016-04-05T19:21:35 < ReadError> not a bad deal
2016-04-05T19:21:43 < ReadError> RMRC has like 200+ left lol
2016-04-05T19:21:50 < ReadError> that they cant ship
2016-04-05T19:22:14 < metRo__> When I use an output compare from a timer doesn't I need to also configure the GPIO?
2016-04-05T19:22:24 < metRo__> I'm using the stm32cube mx
2016-04-05T19:23:03 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-05T19:24:06 < metRo__> stm32cubemx show that the output is selected but doesn't add the init code for this gpio...
2016-04-05T19:24:51 < PeterM> Quantity Prices
2016-04-05T19:24:52 < PeterM> 1-4
2016-04-05T19:24:52 < PeterM> $33.99	5-9
2016-04-05T19:24:52 < PeterM> $80.99	10-19
2016-04-05T19:24:52 < PeterM> $78.99	20+
2016-04-05T19:24:52 < PeterM> $76.99
2016-04-05T19:24:54 < PeterM> what
2016-04-05T19:24:58 < PeterM> ReadError,
2016-04-05T19:25:06 < ReadError> hah ya
2016-04-05T19:25:10 < ReadError> i had to place 2 orders
2016-04-05T19:25:33 < PeterM> oh also
2016-04-05T19:25:44 < PeterM> Sitting for long periods at a 30% state of charge will reduce the battery performance, which is unacceptable for us and our customers.
2016-04-05T19:25:47 < PeterM> ^untrue
2016-04-05T19:26:06 < ReadError> as long as they still have the chemical stuff in them
2016-04-05T19:26:09 < ReadError> they should be okay?
2016-04-05T19:26:30 < PeterM> provided that they arent overdischarged they should be fine
2016-04-05T19:27:15 < ReadError> I thought they have some chemical they use from the factory that lets them sit longterm
2016-04-05T19:27:21 < ReadError> and thats why you need to break them in
2016-04-05T19:27:27 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-05T19:28:18 < PeterM> thats just RC bullshit
2016-04-05T19:28:41 < PeterM> like, not real stuff, jsut dumb rumor that has become fact
2016-04-05T19:29:16 < PeterM> the onyl reason you "break them in" is so if oyu get a DOA cell your quad doesnt asplode mid flight on your first flight
2016-04-05T19:31:24 < PeterM> also, just noticed, you could have done it in 1 order, jsut order 4 in deans and 4 in xt60,you're gonna cut em off anyway
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2016-04-05T19:33:08 < metRo__> How do I define that this GPIO will be used as timer output GPIO_InitStruct.Alternate = GPIO_; ?
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2016-04-05T19:34:37 < ReadError> you need to look at the datasheet
2016-04-05T19:34:41 < ReadError> and find the AF #
2016-04-05T19:35:28 < metRo__> ok
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2016-04-05T20:39:43 < Laurenceb> tay seems pretty realistic
2016-04-05T20:39:45 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35971209
2016-04-05T20:39:56 < Laurenceb> http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14897/production/_89091148_wrightsonvan.jpg
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2016-04-05T20:45:03 < lorenzo> http://i.imgur.com/4w90jAK.jpg lol just got the SDIP stm8 I sampled a month ago
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2016-04-05T20:46:20 < jadew> Laurenceb, is that in the UK?
2016-04-05T20:46:34 < Laurenceb> yup
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2016-04-05T20:53:00 < englishman> wow are UK cameraphones that terrible
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2016-04-05T20:53:51 < jadew> if they belong to teenage drunks / addicts they do
2016-04-05T20:54:01 < jadew> *they are
2016-04-05T20:55:12 < Laurenceb> lolling hard http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/fans-remember-amber-rayne-cancer-7693313
2016-04-05T20:55:21 < Laurenceb>  sharing touching tributes to her
2016-04-05T20:56:59 < Steffanx> am i even supposed to know her?
2016-04-05T20:57:11 < Laurenceb> you are an irc lurker
2016-04-05T20:57:16 < Laurenceb> so of course
2016-04-05T20:57:23 < Steffanx> "Porn star Amber Rayne dies days after heartbreaking goodbye to beloved horse"..
2016-04-05T20:57:29 < Steffanx> im not into that
2016-04-05T20:57:38 < Laurenceb> lulz
2016-04-05T20:58:55 < Steffanx> awh
2016-04-05T20:59:35 < BrainDamage> not hundreds of famous people, duh
2016-04-05T20:59:50 < Steffanx> famous.. famous. I've never heard of her
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2016-04-05T21:00:27 < BrainDamage> famous enough to have a page on a shitty uk newspaper
2016-04-05T21:01:04 < BrainDamage> also, be careful with such statements around here, they might remove your pumper license
2016-04-05T21:01:13 < Steffanx> the mirror posts about anything about everyone
2016-04-05T21:02:12 < Steffanx> How you feel about trolling a dead woman Laurenceb?
2016-04-05T21:03:17 < Steffanx> using trollpedia as a source
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2016-04-05T21:31:49 < kakimir> I see there is shitpost going on
2016-04-05T21:32:29 < kakimir> such ignition for innovance!
2016-04-05T21:34:12 < kakimir> I was doing real works today
2016-04-05T21:35:02 < kakimir> I need to do it sometimes to avoid my collective buttfisting by my billers
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2016-04-05T23:46:04 < jadew> http://www.tweekgeek.com/tweaks/tweeks-by-brand/steinmusic-e-pad-s/
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2016-04-05T23:47:42 < jadew> haha
2016-04-05T23:48:07 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-05T23:51:32 < jadew> http://www.tweekgeek.com/steinmusic-harmonizer-system/
2016-04-05T23:51:45 < jadew> http://www.audiophil-online.de/graphic/audiophil-stein_music[691x787px]Harmonizer.jpg
2016-04-05T23:51:53 < jadew> ^ teardown lol
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2016-04-05T23:55:04 < jadew> and a sticker that says "calibration lost if opened"
2016-04-05T23:55:26 < jadew> calibration lost and warranty void
2016-04-05T23:56:40 < jadew> considering they just paid 2.5k on a bunch of empty boxes I think it's safe to say they're too stupid to want to open them
2016-04-05T23:57:18 < jadew> you could make a cable and then pay the chinese to make knockoffs
2016-04-05T23:57:33 < jadew> then use the fact that the chinese made knockoffs to prove that your cables are great
2016-04-05T23:57:54 < jadew> "most cloned cable on the planet"
2016-04-05T23:59:09 < jadew> if you get a news article about it, you get rich
2016-04-05T23:59:33 < jadew> I noticed
--- Day changed Wed Apr 06 2016
2016-04-06T00:00:17 < jadew> lol
2016-04-06T00:01:00 < jadew> I wonder what it's like to be married to these guys
2016-04-06T00:01:10 < jadew> I was thinking my wife has it rough
2016-04-06T00:02:33 < jadew> they'd probably ask their kid "do you hear the difference?"
2016-04-06T00:02:38 < jadew> and he'd be like "no"
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2016-04-06T00:03:39 < jadew> "don't touch those stickers! they're $100 each"
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2016-04-06T00:05:14 < englishman> karlp: congrats with the protests
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2016-04-06T00:08:55 < jadew> I'm off to bed
2016-04-06T00:08:55 < jadew> night
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2016-04-06T01:13:10 < kakimir> spending nite to cuck with debugger problems
2016-04-06T01:13:24 < kakimir> what is better
2016-04-06T01:15:40 < kakimir> I'm I bit concerned of my interest in debugging debuggers
2016-04-06T01:17:39 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7M-68XbLe8 new musicspams.. chase&status meets punk
2016-04-06T01:19:27 < kakimir> some local shows when Iäm driving
2016-04-06T01:22:05 < mitrax> ohsix: never heard about her, watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoaIhHIYWA4&t=22m6s now
2016-04-06T01:22:16 < mitrax> those DJ "live performances" always crack me up
2016-04-06T01:22:24 < mitrax> what a load of horse shit
2016-04-06T01:22:49 < mitrax> "hey let's turn some knobs and move some cursors so it looks like i'm doing something"
2016-04-06T01:30:45 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHnhDd7HlSY
2016-04-06T01:30:54 < kakimir> how does E feel in such electro party?
2016-04-06T01:31:03 < Laurenceb_> why has everything already been invented :(
2016-04-06T01:31:13 < Laurenceb_> did someone say radio 1 xtra ?!
2016-04-06T01:31:18 < Laurenceb_> REEEEEEE
2016-04-06T01:31:37 < Laurenceb_> needs to die in a fire
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2016-04-06T01:54:09 < Laurenceb_> this is why you should not watch british UV
2016-04-06T01:54:14 < Laurenceb_> *TV
2016-04-06T01:55:47 < kakimir> BBC created your childhood mindset
2016-04-06T01:56:12 < kakimir> and eduncation ministry
2016-04-06T01:56:13 < Laurenceb_> nope
2016-04-06T01:56:32 < Laurenceb_> I was banned from watching TV
2016-04-06T01:57:05 < kakimir> hmm
2016-04-06T01:58:13 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/y5YNA.png
2016-04-06T01:59:57 < Laurenceb_> my parents knew the truth
2016-04-06T02:02:58 < kakimir> your parents are ultrachristians?
2016-04-06T02:05:05 < kakimir> doesn't count as knowing the thuth
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2016-04-06T02:08:24 < kakimir> it's like 2x2 matrix
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2016-04-06T02:10:58 < karlp> no congratulations yet englishman, no fucking way people are going to be ok with this fool coming as new PM.
2016-04-06T02:11:01 < karlp> absolutely absurd.
2016-04-06T02:11:15 < englishman> ah, here's the new boss, same as the old boss?
2016-04-06T02:13:45 < kakimir> of ignorance - awareness, expose - shield
2016-04-06T02:22:20 < karlp> exactly the same as the old one,
2016-04-06T02:22:31 < karlp> was defending the old one right up until the last second,
2016-04-06T02:22:57 < karlp> old one hasn't even stepped down, merely, "aside" for a bit, while they finish this term.
2016-04-06T02:25:18 < mitrax>  01:23:54 up 1577 days, 27 min,  3 users
2016-04-06T02:27:05 < mitrax> or the "should i reboot it?" dilema...
2016-04-06T02:30:04  * mitrax dreads a slow-ass fsck
2016-04-06T02:30:39 < karlp> englishman: https://twitter.com/rmilneNordic/status/717467131709952002/photo/1
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2016-04-06T02:41:25 < kakimir> what has iceland dones?
2016-04-06T02:43:16 < ReadError> iceland is really green and greenland is really icey
2016-04-06T02:43:27 < ReadError> thx mighty ducks
2016-04-06T02:44:24 < kakimir> thank you iceland
2016-04-06T02:44:46 < ReadError> why
2016-04-06T02:45:22 < kakimir> björk
2016-04-06T02:46:39 < kakimir> nite<
2016-04-06T02:46:52 < ReadError> sweet SMA filled dreams
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2016-04-06T02:58:36 < Laurenceb_> iceland stole our fish
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2016-04-06T03:08:34 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/ZveUjg3
2016-04-06T03:11:07 < aandrew> what's sl'al ke:k?
2016-04-06T03:11:57 < Laurenceb_> top kek
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2016-04-06T03:50:33 < ReadError> fuck ted cruz
2016-04-06T03:54:19 < Laurenceb_> he's even more crazy than Trump
2016-04-06T04:00:15 < emeb> 'murica brings teh crazy
2016-04-06T04:05:36 < ReadError> he creeps me out
2016-04-06T04:06:38 < Laurenceb_> I'm half murican so that explains why I'm crazy
2016-04-06T04:07:10 < emeb> +100
2016-04-06T04:08:21 < Laurenceb_> in other news there is a ladyboy convention near my house
2016-04-06T04:10:10 < Laurenceb_> Energetic, exotic, eclectic and completely unpredictable – those sensationally glamorous Lady Boys of Bangkok are ready to whoop it up
2016-04-06T04:10:24 < Laurenceb_>  O_o
2016-04-06T04:10:43 < emeb> in small-town UK?
2016-04-06T04:10:57 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-06T04:10:58 < emeb> that should get the old ladies riled up
2016-04-06T04:11:08 < ReadError> gonna go and find ya a gf m8?
2016-04-06T04:11:13 < Laurenceb_> lulz
2016-04-06T04:11:22 < Laurenceb_> they are very annoying and have megaphones
2016-04-06T04:11:33 < Laurenceb_> seems to have stopped now, but ppl have work to go it
2016-04-06T04:11:37 < Laurenceb_> *to
2016-04-06T04:11:56 < Laurenceb_> need to send them back to 8chan where they will fit in
2016-04-06T04:12:42 < ReadError> you need to find you a nice femnazi convention
2016-04-06T04:12:56 < ReadError> trigger everyone
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2016-04-06T04:13:24 < Laurenceb_> or just direct femnazis in the direction of the convention, I doubt they would approve of the campness
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2016-04-06T04:14:38 < ReadError> are you still a wizard?
2016-04-06T04:14:58 < ReadError> maybe you can lose your status at the lady boys of bangkok convention
2016-04-06T04:15:12 < Laurenceb_> I don't think it works like that
2016-04-06T04:15:30 < Laurenceb_> but its worth inviting wizardchan along
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2016-04-06T05:57:17 < dongs> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/04/05/national/crime-legal/2015-saw-33-surge-suggestive-online-posts-minors-police-gave-guidance-666/
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2016-04-06T06:20:30 < Laurenceb_> I've ported the tarduinopilot to stm32
2016-04-06T06:20:33 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Util/dcm_attitude.c
2016-04-06T06:21:25 < emeb_mac> so much more pro
2016-04-06T06:22:51 < lorenzo> this Atmel SAM D10 board is too painful already
2016-04-06T06:22:54 < lorenzo> can't download shit on it
2016-04-06T06:22:58 < lorenzo> run firmware upgrade
2016-04-06T06:23:00 < lorenzo> AtmelStudio crashes
2016-04-06T06:23:44 < dongs> i installed as7 or wahtever the other day tosee if theyt got tarduiino->AS7 project conversion goin
2016-04-06T06:23:50 < dongs> they didnt, so I deleted it
2016-04-06T06:27:43 < Laurenceb_> I say ported.. only thing I copied was the math
2016-04-06T06:29:05 < dongs> wow, you made it look worse than original
2016-04-06T06:29:09 < dongs> with all that nice spacing and indentation
2016-04-06T06:29:16 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-06T06:29:23 < dongs> wasnt there some problem with dcm?
2016-04-06T06:29:26 < dongs> math-wise
2016-04-06T06:29:31 < dongs> something about lock or whatever
2016-04-06T06:29:41 < dongs> gimbal; lock? maybe im just stoned
2016-04-06T06:29:51 < Laurenceb_> nope
2016-04-06T06:30:01 < Laurenceb_> theres no gimbal lock with DCM
2016-04-06T06:30:05 < Laurenceb_> its rather lame tho
2016-04-06T06:30:16 < Laurenceb_> but I don't care as this is just for basic use
2016-04-06T06:30:42 < Laurenceb_> not recommended for flying stuff :D
2016-04-06T06:30:56 < dongs> oh, your horseshit tracker
2016-04-06T06:31:04 < dongs> what are you doing, getting horse coordinates in xyz?
2016-04-06T06:31:17 < dongs> must know tilt angle
2016-04-06T06:31:22 < dongs> to 0.1degree precision
2016-04-06T06:31:46 < Laurenceb_> lulno
2016-04-06T06:31:52 < Laurenceb_> moar liek +-10 degrees
2016-04-06T06:32:17 < emeb_mac> latest foolishness -> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/ice5_breakout.png
2016-04-06T06:32:20 < Laurenceb_> its just for visualisation of horse moving around and stupid shit like that
2016-04-06T06:32:46 < Laurenceb_> ice5? and FPGA?
2016-04-06T06:32:48 < Laurenceb_> *an
2016-04-06T06:32:55 < emeb_mac> ya
2016-04-06T06:33:04 < Laurenceb_> ah
2016-04-06T06:33:16 < Laurenceb_> apparently MIT have made a VHDL compiler for DNA
2016-04-06T06:33:18 < Laurenceb_> sounds fun
2016-04-06T06:33:24 < emeb_mac> saw that
2016-04-06T06:33:39 < emeb_mac> targeted viruses in 3... 2... 1...
2016-04-06T06:33:49 < Laurenceb_> sounds a bit overhyped, looks like just basic e-coli "blocks"
2016-04-06T06:34:00 < dongs> what EDA tool generated that
2016-04-06T06:34:08 < Laurenceb_> dual mitochondria !
2016-04-06T06:34:12 < Laurenceb_> overclocked
2016-04-06T06:34:13 < emeb_mac> targeted food poisoning in 3... 2... 1...
2016-04-06T06:34:24 < emeb_mac> dobson: diptrace thru oshpark
2016-04-06T06:34:34 < emeb_mac> dongs: ^^
2016-04-06T06:34:45 < dongs> nice
2016-04-06T06:34:51 < dongs> also who teh fuck is dobson and whyt is he taking up my nick
2016-04-06T06:35:08 < emeb_mac> dongs: stupid autocomplete
2016-04-06T06:36:15 < dongs> yes i know
2016-04-06T06:37:03 < dongs> weird, irssi actually randomly selected dongs for a few  times when doing do<tab> but then started doing dobson repeatedly without ever going back to dongs
2016-04-06T06:37:16 < dongs> racist.
2016-04-06T06:37:21 < dongs> dongs:
2016-04-06T06:39:31 < Laurenceb_> http://gentlenav.googlecode.com/files/MahonyPapers.zip
2016-04-06T06:39:47 < Laurenceb_> this is interesting, there is a version similar to DCM but using quaternions
2016-04-06T06:40:00 < Laurenceb_> dunno if it'd be faster as the DCM is nice and simple
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2016-04-06T06:46:37 < dongs> err isnt that old as shit
2016-04-06T06:46:42 < dongs> thats what all tarduino guise use
2016-04-06T06:48:23 < Laurenceb_> yeah but its fast
2016-04-06T06:48:33 < Laurenceb_> I have tons of filtering and shit going on
2016-04-06T06:48:34 < dongs> right
2016-04-06T06:48:55 < Laurenceb_> fast and nasty required
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2016-04-06T07:19:51 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-06T07:34:35 < wbraun> link to the DNA thing Laurenceb_?
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2016-04-06T09:46:39 < upgrdman> in altidongs, how do i find something in a project by its refdes?
2016-04-06T09:51:38 < PeterM> i usually use the find similar on the pcb, component properties, see whci hschematic it is on then use find similar refdes again
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2016-04-06T10:09:55 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Arduino-based-wireless-radio-transmitter/ attn englishman
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2016-04-06T10:14:54 < dongs> You will create the schematic (.pro), the pcb layout (.kicad_pcb) and the Gerber file for the custom PCB that is highlighted in green using KiCAD.
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2016-04-06T10:14:57 < dongs> this is bolded
2016-04-06T10:15:00 < dongs> project looked interesting until that point
2016-04-06T10:15:02 < dongs> he can go fuck himself.
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2016-04-06T10:20:24 < upgrdman> skookum choocher
2016-04-06T10:20:42 < upgrdman> needs moar crescent wrench
2016-04-06T10:21:34 < dongs> lmfao some feelancer just messaged me for some propject that involves makign a mesh network out of NRF24L01 stuff with 1km range and industrial tem,perature require3ments for.... $120
2016-04-06T10:21:41 < dongs> like how about NO
2016-04-06T10:22:09 < dongs> you can take it for 120
2016-04-06T10:22:15 < dongs> i wouldnt touch it for less than 5k
2016-04-06T10:22:42 < dongs> just pcba
2016-04-06T10:23:05 < upgrdman> in my arduino youtube videos im starting to get people begging me to help them with a stupid project. and when i ignore their comments, them PM me on youtube
2016-04-06T10:23:16 < dongs> lolz
2016-04-06T10:23:24 < dongs> i wonder how many comments eevfag gets
2016-04-06T10:23:28 < dongs> PLEASE HELP ME INSTALL PIRATED ALTIUM
2016-04-06T10:23:35 < dongs> thats right
2016-04-06T10:23:39 < dongs> because he has no fucking content
2016-04-06T10:23:51 < dongs> so there's nothign to ask about
2016-04-06T10:23:56 < dongs> his video stream is just noise
2016-04-06T10:24:03 < upgrdman> ohsix, no
2016-04-06T10:24:24 < upgrdman> its like "im an ee student and i cant figure out my lab project. wanna help me for free? plz?"
2016-04-06T10:24:53 < upgrdman> like bluetooth serial port questions
2016-04-06T10:25:02 < upgrdman> and "how do i make a robot arm with servos"
2016-04-06T10:25:04 < upgrdman> etc.
2016-04-06T10:25:54 < upgrdman> like i dont mind helping people, but when it's a bunch of beakys and crts... i'll pass
2016-04-06T10:28:45 < PeterM> or when its not related
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2016-04-06T10:42:44 < ReadError> hey guys i would like too hook an LED up to my arduino, what resistor do i need?
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2016-04-06T10:44:18 < ReadError> well I need this to run 8 years off a 9v battery
2016-04-06T10:44:52 < ReadError> what? 'murica
2016-04-06T10:46:11 < ReadError> im always up at 4am
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2016-04-06T10:52:04 < ReadError> btw
2016-04-06T10:52:19 < ReadError> you guys seen that shit, you can run synology on any HW
2016-04-06T10:52:38 < ReadError> have it running in ESXi fine for a bit now
2016-04-06T10:53:03 < ReadError> can build out huge NAS easily with good sw
2016-04-06T10:55:03 < ReadError> Linux SynoVirt 3.10.35 #1 SMP Tue Feb 2 17:44:24 CET 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux synology_bromolow_3615xs
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2016-04-06T10:55:22 < ReadError> but its how all the software works together
2016-04-06T10:55:24 < ReadError> its magic
2016-04-06T10:56:24 < ReadError> you can ssh and look under the hood
2016-04-06T10:56:26 < PeterM> magic you say? can it save me 15% on auto insurance?
2016-04-06T10:56:34 < ReadError> but everything just works
2016-04-06T10:56:45 < ReadError> the google drive -> network drive stuff is great
2016-04-06T10:57:00 < ReadError> have google apps so just spool up a bunch of drives for backups
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2016-04-06T11:14:46 < ReadError> https://xpenology.us/tutorials/installation/dsm-software/how-install-update-dsm-52
2016-04-06T11:14:54 < ReadError> i just found it
2016-04-06T11:18:08 < ReadError> setup??
2016-04-06T11:18:45 < ReadError> well its not made to run on non-synology hardware
2016-04-06T11:19:17 < ReadError> its their own build of linux
2016-04-06T11:19:48 < ReadError> this is how they release updates so its the easiest
2016-04-06T11:20:08 < ReadError> see last commentt
2016-04-06T11:21:25 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-06T11:21:31 < ReadError> this xpenology stuff
2016-04-06T11:21:37 < ReadError> is just a bootloader basically
2016-04-06T11:21:57 < ReadError> http://global.download.synology.com/download/DSM/release/5.2/5644/DSM_DS3615xs_5644.pat
2016-04-06T11:22:05 < ReadError> it actually installs that
2016-04-06T11:22:15 < ReadError> and they use that covention for updates
2016-04-06T11:25:06 < ReadError> yea
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2016-04-06T11:25:30 < ReadError> im curious what they are doing for RAID controllers
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2016-04-06T11:26:16 < ReadError> http://www.servethehome.com/synology-ds1812-hardware-teardown/
2016-04-06T11:27:07 < ReadError> it does a bit more
2016-04-06T11:27:25 < ReadError> you boot it in install/upgrade and it actually has some stuff running
2016-04-06T11:27:39 < ReadError> you can login to a web interface/ssh and actually install the .pat
2016-04-06T11:28:45 < ReadError> i dont think they are using hw raid
2016-04-06T11:29:39 < ReadError> All Synology systems use software RAID; further information about the differences between hardware/software RAID, please look here -- 2008
2016-04-06T11:30:31 < ReadError> yea still SW apparently
2016-04-06T11:30:36 < ReadError> makes doing a build cheap
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2016-04-06T11:35:42 < ReadError> eh most people use it on actual hw
2016-04-06T11:35:47 < ReadError> so you can load up a bunch of disk
2016-04-06T11:35:56 < ReadError> little atom shits
2016-04-06T11:36:33 < PeterM> bloomin heck, $1000 for that?
2016-04-06T11:37:00 < PeterM> no wonder they can afford to make half decent software
2016-04-06T11:39:08 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Synology-Station-Network-Attached-DS3615xs/dp/B00R45RC1E/
2016-04-06T11:39:15 < ReadError> they get even more expensive
2016-04-06T11:39:20 < ReadError> thats the one im running
2016-04-06T11:39:49 < PeterM> jesus fucking christ
2016-04-06T11:40:15 < ReadError> yea crazy
2016-04-06T11:40:21 < ReadError> for how basic/simple the HW is
2016-04-06T11:40:32 < ReadError> higher end models are just free money
2016-04-06T11:43:30 < ReadError> no the certs are something different
2016-04-06T11:43:48 < ReadError> its just saying its tested by the mfg
2016-04-06T11:43:57 < ReadError> and everything works
2016-04-06T11:44:12 < ReadError> or tested by vmware rather
2016-04-06T11:44:34 < ReadError> iSCSI stuff
2016-04-06T11:44:44 < PeterM> http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Rack-Mini-Motherboards-C2550D4I/dp/B00GG94YDS
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2016-04-06T11:49:03 < ReadError> expensive lil bastard
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2016-04-06T11:49:55 < ReadError> i got some of my vmware shit running off mine
2016-04-06T11:50:18 < ReadError> you just goto the web page
2016-04-06T11:50:25 < ReadError> i think its like admin no pw?
2016-04-06T11:51:05 < ReadError> try root/root
2016-04-06T11:51:17 < ReadError> it wasnt anything special
2016-04-06T11:51:22 < ReadError> but i forget what i did
2016-04-06T11:51:43 < ReadError> are you at the web interface?
2016-04-06T11:51:50 < ReadError> i think u need to use that anyways
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2016-04-06T11:52:39 < ReadError> also
2016-04-06T11:52:44 < ReadError> did you do the persistent storage?
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2016-04-06T11:53:25 < ReadError> nah the vmware setting
2016-04-06T11:54:08 < ReadError> eh maybe it doesnt matter for vmware desktop
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2016-04-06T12:22:57 < dongs> ahaha
2016-04-06T12:23:02 < dongs> altiumpal is *raged*
2016-04-06T12:23:20 < dongs> he fucked something up and now every new board, defaulty polygon_clearance is like 0mil
2016-04-06T12:23:25 < dongs> for relief connect
2016-04-06T12:23:41 < dongs> so hes getting shit like GND vias/pads with like 0.001mm ring around them
2016-04-06T12:24:44 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-06T12:24:51 < dongs> i dont even see wehre to change default drc shit
2016-04-06T12:24:57 < dongs> wonder wat he fucked up
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2016-04-06T12:29:17 < Sync> kek
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2016-04-06T12:46:47 < dongs> sync, check your fucking dhl
2016-04-06T12:46:51 < dongs> with AD stuff
2016-04-06T12:46:54 < dongs> nazi customs has it
2016-04-06T12:47:04 < dongs> for liek 4 days now
2016-04-06T12:56:59 < Taxman> dongs: I thought altium is almost perfect while eagle is crapware?
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2016-04-06T13:01:36 < Sync> dongs: yeah, that is usually the case dongs
2016-04-06T13:04:24 < dongs> Sync: so what, they're just jerking off wiht the package and will send to you eventually?
2016-04-06T13:04:36 < dongs> lol @ germany
2016-04-06T13:06:34 < karlp> any of you guys have an obd2 dongle thingy that you recommend for cheaps?
2016-04-06T13:07:43 < Sync> the chian usb/bluetooth ones work
2016-04-06T13:12:55 < karlp> Sync: is there any difference between them that you know of?
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2016-04-06T13:16:52 < Sync> I have not noticed them if there are any karlp
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2016-04-06T13:18:22 < Fleck> http://www.tme.eu/en/Document/91a28926969f50a8caeaeb2d4475df20/RG160160A-FHY-V.pdf << anyone can explain principle of controlling this display? on the back there are 4x those chips: https://www.crystalfontz.com/controllers/NT7086.pdf
2016-04-06T13:18:38 < dongs> crystaldongz
2016-04-06T13:19:02 < Fleck> all I can get are vertical lines :D
2016-04-06T13:19:13 < dongs> Fleck: looks like y our standard whatever shit that can be driven by 4 bits
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2016-04-06T13:19:29 < dongs> HD87760 or wahtever stuff
2016-04-06T13:20:08 < mitrax> any idea why the STM32F410RBT6 is super cheap compared to e.g STM32F051R8T6? (M4 vs M0 and 128kb vs 64kb)
2016-04-06T13:20:24 < dongs> economy of scale
2016-04-06T13:20:30 < dongs> someone is buying a shitload of f410
2016-04-06T13:20:36 < dongs> and nobody wants the shitty M0
2016-04-06T13:20:46 < dongs> last i checked 072CB was cheaper than some of 05x stuff
2016-04-06T13:20:50 < mitrax> make sense
2016-04-06T13:21:01 < mitrax> err.makes, ok well i'll go with the F4 then
2016-04-06T13:21:08 < dongs> also RB is more common package
2016-04-06T13:21:28 < Fleck> crt: I am not :D
2016-04-06T13:21:37 < dongs> a lot of 64pin F1s with higher spec are almost as cheap as 48pin wiht half or worse spec
2016-04-06T13:22:29 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/The-bag-that-charges-phone/
2016-04-06T13:22:50 < dongs> is "womens bag" some slang for something I dont know about
2016-04-06T13:23:31 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Chip-Programming/
2016-04-06T13:23:38 < dongs> he cant evne buy time on the FIB for that /hour
2016-04-06T13:23:42 < dongs> and hten he'd need to know which fuses to edit
2016-04-06T13:23:58 < dongs> (and how)
2016-04-06T13:24:34 < dongs> ohsix, you should really take this https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Arduino-based-wireless-radio-transmitter/
2016-04-06T13:24:57 < kakimir> screen -rd
2016-04-06T13:25:03 < dongs> ^ lunix shithead
2016-04-06T13:26:00 < kakimir> sup
2016-04-06T13:26:15 < Sync> STM32F318C8T6 shits is also cheap as fuck
2016-04-06T13:26:30 < dongs> 318 eh
2016-04-06T13:26:34 < dongs> define "cheap"
2016-04-06T13:26:42 < dongs> but fuck F3
2016-04-06T13:26:48 < dongs> its uart/flash so slow
2016-04-06T13:27:08 < Sync> 1.78€
2016-04-06T13:27:08 < PeterM> f205vgt6 are pretty cheap also
2016-04-06T13:27:29 < dongs> ya but F2 is dead does anyone evne use that?
2016-04-06T13:27:36 < karlp> Sync: so they're all "bluetooth" is there a variety of android apps that talk to them? or is it one common crazy china app that comes on the cd?
2016-04-06T13:27:52 < dongs> im gonna guess they're all just bt serial shits
2016-04-06T13:28:00 < Sync> there are a few of apps that talk to them, there also is windows/linux shit iirc
2016-04-06T13:28:02 < Sync> ye
2016-04-06T13:28:30 < PeterM> F2 is fine for the price
2016-04-06T13:28:44 < karlp> f2 has f1 style gpio -> gtfo
2016-04-06T13:28:52 < dongs> Fleck: looks weird. quick glance is  you control half the screen at once and just clock all the bits out
2016-04-06T13:29:04 < dongs> yeah i dont see any use for F2
2016-04-06T13:29:07 < dongs> shitty gpio and M3
2016-04-06T13:29:14 < dongs> what does it even solve?
2016-04-06T13:29:16 < dongs> that F1 doesnt do
2016-04-06T13:29:18 < dongs> i forgot
2016-04-06T13:29:27 < dongs> just that its 120mhz instead of 72?
2016-04-06T13:29:29 < PeterM> speeed
2016-04-06T13:29:31 < karlp> faster and ethernet
2016-04-06T13:29:31 < PeterM> yerp
2016-04-06T13:29:36 < dongs> karlp: F1 has ethernet
2016-04-06T13:29:41 < karlp> does it have the usb hs then maybe?
2016-04-06T13:29:44 < dongs> you can also overclock F103 to 144mhz ~just fine~
2016-04-06T13:30:05 < dongs> karlp: maybe, but still external phy -> shitheap
2016-04-06T13:30:55 < dongs> you can get it in invisible WLCSP6-6
2016-04-06T13:30:56 < dongs> 4x4mm
2016-04-06T13:31:29 < dongs> looks liek only advantage is ART, 120mhz, DCMI, HS usb
2016-04-06T13:32:45 < Sync> hm, I wonder if there is a parametric search that lets you look for packages and then tells you which stms there are for it
2016-04-06T13:32:52 < dongs> yes
2016-04-06T13:32:54 < dongs> the cube mx browser
2016-04-06T13:32:57 < dongs> its great
2016-04-06T13:33:15 < Sync> oh well, the parametric search on the stm32 landing page can do it
2016-04-06T13:33:26 < dongs> but then you have to use aids ST site
2016-04-06T13:33:47 < dongs> sriosuly cubemx browser is wonderful
2016-04-06T13:33:48 < dongs> just install it
2016-04-06T13:33:49 < dongs> new project
2016-04-06T13:33:52 < dongs> pick package
2016-04-06T13:33:55 < dongs> ~amaze~
2016-04-06T13:34:13 < PeterM> yah, good for workin out clocks and mappin pins too
2016-04-06T13:34:17 < Sync> wat, there are going to be stm32l443 chips in lqfp48
2016-04-06T13:34:35 < PeterM> i mean, sure you can do it with excel spreadshits etc but its all there in one place
2016-04-06T13:35:45 < dongs> L4 is very very expensive
2016-04-06T13:36:02 < dongs> i wish they'd make a F4 with new peripherals like uart/etc
2016-04-06T13:36:22 < dongs> all the F441/411/etc shit is still old junk
2016-04-06T13:37:08 < qyx> old and cheap
2016-04-06T13:39:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/RtTCXbO.gifv
2016-04-06T13:39:34 < dongs> lol
2016-04-06T13:39:44 < dongs> RIP
2016-04-06T13:41:52 < PeterM> dissappear, just liek a pencil
2016-04-06T13:42:21 < dongs> i should update my cube
2016-04-06T13:43:07 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/5sSHccO.webm
2016-04-06T13:43:37 < dongs> i heard hes dead
2016-04-06T13:44:04 < PeterM> yeah probs
2016-04-06T13:51:06 < dongs> hm, cocks
2016-04-06T13:51:18 < dongs> i have a dumb device that needs like 60k firmware downloaded over i2c or spi
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2016-04-06T13:51:28 < dongs> i2c would be going at 200khz but spi can do up to 10
2016-04-06T13:51:34 < dongs> bu then I'd need to put a stm32 on there just for firmware load :(
2016-04-06T13:53:31 < Sync> aww
2016-04-06T13:53:57 < dongs> hm maybe i can do largeish blocks over i2c then it wont be so awful
2016-04-06T13:54:04 < dongs> but if its byte by byute + usb overhead its gonna be dum
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2016-04-06T13:56:20 < Fleck> so nobody has a clue how to control those? :/
2016-04-06T13:57:17 < dongs> Fleck: select top/bototm half, clock out all bits
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2016-04-06T14:10:48 < metRo__> I'm trying to set a watchpoint on TIM1->CNT on gdb but it doesn't break
2016-04-06T14:11:16 < dongs> can you even set harwdare breapoints on peripheral registers?
2016-04-06T14:11:30 < jpa-> atleast not against hardware access
2016-04-06T14:11:40 < jpa-> watchpoints only trigger for software writes, not even DMA i think
2016-04-06T14:11:45 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-06T14:12:07 < dongs> how will debug unit even know that CNT was modifeid by timer
2016-04-06T14:13:21 < metRo__> got it
2016-04-06T14:14:00 < metRo__> how does STMSTUDIO works?
2016-04-06T14:14:16 < metRo__> you can plot the TIM1->CNT value per example
2016-04-06T14:14:27 < jpa-> it just reads it every now and then
2016-04-06T14:15:16 < metRo__> ok
2016-04-06T14:15:22 < metRo__> how do I delete a display?
2016-04-06T14:15:27 < metRo__> or disable it at least?
2016-04-06T14:15:34 < zyp> undisplay?
2016-04-06T14:15:34 < dongs> no idea, i dont think anyone here uses stmstudio
2016-04-06T14:15:43 < metRo__> I'm talking about gdb
2016-04-06T14:15:54 < metRo__> zyp: thank you
2016-04-06T14:16:11 < dongs> i still havent found a good way to do snippets in altidong
2016-04-06T14:16:26 < dongs> i keep having to arrange/copy traces for everytime i do dc/dc etc blocks
2016-04-06T14:36:19 < mitrax> udder
2016-04-06T14:40:54 < dongs> a restart has been scheduled
2016-04-06T14:40:57 < dongs> fucken aids
2016-04-06T14:41:05 < dongs> for fucking msosffice updates
2016-04-06T14:41:07 < dongs> :(
2016-04-06T14:45:14 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/3TgAyq0.png rate my dcdc
2016-04-06T14:46:30 < zyp> very kawaii
2016-04-06T14:47:26 < dongs> sure i only use sync
2016-04-06T14:47:27 < dongs> fuck diodes
2016-04-06T14:47:34 < zyp> what's up with curved vs rect outline? distinguishing caps from resistors?
2016-04-06T14:47:50 < dongs> yes
2016-04-06T14:47:54 < dongs> thats standard everywehre
2016-04-06T14:48:05 < dongs> look at the back of your gpu or smth
2016-04-06T14:49:17 < zyp> oh, yeah, just looked at reference board for the shit I'm working on now
2016-04-06T14:50:05 < PeterM> which is hte swithcer? is the cap up the top Vin?
2016-04-06T14:50:14 < PeterM> top right
2016-04-06T14:50:28 < dongs> ya, 10uF 0603
2016-04-06T14:50:40 < dongs> this been working in production pretty well fora while
2016-04-06T14:50:46 < dongs> just i have to copy that layout into every fucking new project
2016-04-06T14:50:53 < dongs> takes like ~10min to arrange parts + copy nets
2016-04-06T14:51:05 < dongs> NCP1532
2016-04-06T14:52:13 < PeterM> seems good enough
2016-04-06T14:53:17 < PeterM> thought i ahve a tendencyto mad polys rather than traces
2016-04-06T14:53:25 < PeterM> on DCDC
2016-04-06T14:53:55 < dongs> yeh i do them sometimes on higher current stuff. just annoying to do
2016-04-06T14:54:02 < dongs> cuz have to make drc rule about direct connects
2016-04-06T14:54:05 < dongs> fucking annoying
2016-04-06T14:54:10 < PeterM> ahh
2016-04-06T14:54:12 < dongs> or else the shit doesnt evne pour
2016-04-06T14:54:16 < dongs> or do you just use actual polys?
2016-04-06T14:54:18 < zyp> yeah, polys are annoying
2016-04-06T14:54:19 < dongs> not gnd pour
2016-04-06T14:54:23 < dongs> er gnd->whatever
2016-04-06T14:54:42 < PeterM> actual polys
2016-04-06T14:54:45 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-06T14:55:00 < PeterM> but most of my shit is like 10x higher pwoer minimum
2016-04-06T14:55:09 < zyp> this shit I'm working on got 5 DCDC blocks, and I've been putting off routing them because that shit is annoying
2016-04-06T14:55:26 < PeterM> almsot certain no need at your power level
2016-04-06T14:55:45 < zyp> spending my time getting angry trying to make RJ45 connector fit instead
2016-04-06T14:56:00 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-06T14:56:48 < dongs> gonna try poly next time instead of pour
2016-04-06T14:57:45 < zyp> whoever made the design rules for this design added some crazy clearance constraints on the ethernet lines/centertap ground
2016-04-06T14:58:02 < zyp> which I assume is fair to get the required galvanic isolation, but annoying as fuck to route
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2016-04-06T14:58:47 < Sync> just #yolo it and route the groundplane straight through the clearance
2016-04-06T14:59:05 < PeterM> yeah, jsut rely that the other side have correct clearance
2016-04-06T14:59:12 < zyp> haha
2016-04-06T14:59:17  * PeterM smirks
2016-04-06T14:59:46 < Sync> that is how the real pros do it
2016-04-06T14:59:58 < zyp> I wish people just weren't too cheap to use a magjack, would solve everything
2016-04-06T15:00:04 < Sync> or those shitty chinaclone NICs without transformers o0
2016-04-06T15:00:51 < zyp> haha
2016-04-06T15:01:06 < dongs> looks like my altiumpro also uses poly
2016-04-06T15:01:10 < dongs> how the fuck did i not know this
2016-04-06T15:01:20 < zyp> poly what?
2016-04-06T15:02:55 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/WCJjAb0.png to make this kidna shit *(but that board is pour, which i fail)
2016-04-06T15:02:58 < dongs> is
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2016-04-06T15:03:51 < PeterM> its easy, jsut takes fuckign forever
2016-04-06T15:04:47 < dongs> err wait
2016-04-06T15:04:50 < zyp> dongs, uh, you seem to be opposing "poly" and "pour"
2016-04-06T15:04:55 < dongs> yeah uh
2016-04-06T15:05:03 < zyp> and I don't get it, because it's called a "polygon pour"
2016-04-06T15:05:04 < dongs> do you mean solid region then?
2016-04-06T15:05:15 < dongs> PeterM: ^
2016-04-06T15:05:32 < zyp> you just want to avoid thermals?
2016-04-06T15:05:44 < PeterM> no i mean polygon pour
2016-04-06T15:05:55 < zyp> just make a power netclass or something, and a design rule that disables thermals on that
2016-04-06T15:06:20 < dongs> zyp, yeah yeah yeah i know all the ways how to get rid of htem
2016-04-06T15:06:27 < dongs> what i mean is thats an extra cunty step to deal with
2016-04-06T15:06:32 < dongs> and they dont work very well wehn moving rooms and shit
2016-04-06T15:06:33 < PeterM> yeah, it is
2016-04-06T15:06:39 < dongs> ive had fucking polygons only stick around after i moved room
2016-04-06T15:06:50 < dongs> and it seems it depends randomly on whether they move or nto
2016-04-06T15:07:11 < dongs> wonder if solid region would work better
2016-04-06T15:07:32 < zyp> you probably just have to repour them or something
2016-04-06T15:07:55 < dongs> no
2016-04-06T15:08:03 < dongs> the outline physically stays in the old place
2016-04-06T15:08:05 < dongs> and rest of room moves.
2016-04-06T15:08:11 < dongs> like dashed pour outline shit
2016-04-06T15:08:21 < dongs> it has happened neough times to know its not just some dumb shit im doing wrong
2016-04-06T15:09:09 < dongs> solid region wroks
2016-04-06T15:09:15 < zyp> ah
2016-04-06T15:09:46 < zyp> maybe you're not selecting them properly? I think polygons can only be selected when they are in the active layer or some shit
2016-04-06T15:10:01 < dongs> what hte fuck is "fill" for
2016-04-06T15:10:09 < dongs> zyp, room is dragged by the room object
2016-04-06T15:10:11 < dongs> not parts inside of it
2016-04-06T15:10:23 < dongs> i dont need to select anything to drag a rroom
2016-04-06T15:10:52 < zyp> oh, ok
2016-04-06T15:10:56 < zyp> haven't used rooms
2016-04-06T15:11:08 < dongs> oh, fill is just square only
2016-04-06T15:11:12 < dongs> solid region can do area.
2016-04-06T15:14:30 < dongs> oh niiiiiiiiiiice
2016-04-06T15:14:39 < Sync> ah dongs called dhl
2016-04-06T15:14:43 < dongs> just spotted an error altidong "helpfully" added to my recent board
2016-04-06T15:14:49 < dongs> fucking auto-remove loops trash
2016-04-06T15:14:50 < Sync> the cunts thought I was importing the shits for my company
2016-04-06T15:15:01 < Sync> told them to fuk right off and forward that shit
2016-04-06T15:15:07 < dongs> nice
2016-04-06T15:15:22 < dongs> WTF IT REMOVED ALL OF THEM
2016-04-06T15:15:24 < dongs> fuckkkk
2016-04-06T15:16:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/L4UytwN.png
2016-04-06T15:16:32 < dongs> if I dont turn off "auto remove loops"
2016-04-06T15:16:56 < dongs> adding a trace between top pad2 of any of those 3 parts and the via will delete the trace in all the others
2016-04-06T15:17:10 < dongs> because via touches about 6 mil overlap
2016-04-06T15:18:02 < dongs> this is kikecad-class faggotry right there
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2016-04-06T15:23:34 < dongs> i use measure tool to make sure all caps/shit around QFNs are at identical disstance from the pads
2016-04-06T15:23:38 < dongs> amidoingitwrong
2016-04-06T15:24:29 < dongs> still shocked pro altidonger doesnt even use grid at all
2016-04-06T15:27:21 < dongs> hm not-so-pro altidonger says solid regions have some problem when copying rooms
2016-04-06T15:27:23 < dongs> well fuckign fuck
2016-04-06T15:29:30 < zyp> 8L designs are fun
2016-04-06T15:29:48 < zyp> all layers are full of shit exactly where I need to run a new signal
2016-04-06T15:32:25 < Sync> rekt
2016-04-06T15:41:48 < metRo__> How I set the compare value on a output compare registar?
2016-04-06T15:41:57 < dongs> TIMx->CCR
2016-04-06T15:42:19 < metRo__> dongs: I change the CCR value but it doesn't change the output waveform
2016-04-06T15:42:20 < metRo__> :s
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2016-04-06T15:42:30 < metRo__> I'm using timer1 with a prescaler of 1000
2016-04-06T15:42:36 < metRo__> my clock is 48MHz
2016-04-06T15:42:50 < metRo__> so I have a 1KHz freq timer
2016-04-06T15:43:08 < metRo__> ARR set to 499
2016-04-06T15:43:39 < metRo__> and I got a 1Hz on output
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2016-04-06T15:44:18 < jpa-> 48MHz/1000 doesn't sound 1kHz to me..
2016-04-06T15:44:26 < metRo__> sorry
2016-04-06T15:44:33 < metRo__> jpa-: psc=48000
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2016-04-06T15:45:15 < jpa-> yeah, so 0.99998 kHz timer; but ok, yeah, CCR should change the duty cycle of the output waveform
2016-04-06T15:45:23 < jpa-> if you are in one of the PWM modes
2016-04-06T15:45:32 < metRo__> hmm, i'm not
2016-04-06T15:45:41 < jpa-> what is your CCMR value?
2016-04-06T15:46:03 < metRo__> 48
2016-04-06T15:46:10 < jpa-> decimal, hex?
2016-04-06T15:46:15 < metRo__> yes
2016-04-06T15:46:22 < jpa-> ....
2016-04-06T15:46:28 < metRo__> decimal
2016-04-06T15:46:37 < metRo__> 0x30
2016-04-06T15:47:11 < metRo__> 110000b
2016-04-06T15:47:35 < jpa-> so are you getting the output from TIM1_CH1 or TIM1_CH2?
2016-04-06T15:48:02 < metRo__> TIM1_CH1
2016-04-06T15:48:07 < jpa-> or are you just toggling gpio in an interrupt?
2016-04-06T15:48:11 < metRo__> no
2016-04-06T15:48:20 < jpa-> ok
2016-04-06T15:48:48 < jpa-> so yeah, your channel is in toggle mode, so it changes state every time the output compare matches
2016-04-06T15:49:15 < jpa-> thus by changing CCR, you are only moving the toggle time a bit, but it will still occur once every timer period
2016-04-06T15:49:23 < metRo__> I have set TIM1 channel1 to Output Compare CH1, toggle on match
2016-04-06T15:49:27 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-06T15:49:37 < jpa-> what do you actually want to change by editing the CCR?
2016-04-06T15:50:06 < metRo__> toogle it before per example
2016-04-06T15:50:08 < jpa-> currently you are just changing the phase of the output waveform, in relation to the internal clock period
2016-04-06T15:51:10 < dongs> is your ARR enabled
2016-04-06T15:51:14 < metRo__> I didn't understand :s
2016-04-06T15:51:29 < dongs> i forgot if you needed that to be able to chang CCR without stopping timer first
2016-04-06T15:51:32 < metRo__> I tought that change the CCR it will make the pin toogle on compare
2016-04-06T15:51:44 < metRo__> per example
2016-04-06T15:51:49 < metRo__> ARR is set to 499
2016-04-06T15:52:02 < metRo__> if I set the CCR to 250
2016-04-06T15:52:15 < metRo__> it will toggle 2x the timer freq
2016-04-06T15:53:53 < dongs> ..
2016-04-06T15:55:21 < metRo__> so if I set the all the 4 channels to Output Compare
2016-04-06T15:55:30 < metRo__> they will all output the same
2016-04-06T15:56:06 < metRo__> crt :)
2016-04-06T16:01:07 < PeterM> anyone in the UK online/interested this dude is selling a bunch of NOS stuff from RS http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/h4ab/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= some decent deals to be had
2016-04-06T16:03:02 < mitrax> NOS?
2016-04-06T16:03:10 < dongs> gona guess new old sock
2016-04-06T16:03:13 < dongs> +t
2016-04-06T16:03:59 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-06T16:04:02 < PeterM> new old stock
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2016-04-06T16:14:24 < dongs> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322058499330 you dont want these pro shades?
2016-04-06T16:19:45 < PeterM> nah, but sync might want http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schneider-Electric-Altivar-ATV32-EMI-Filter-Additional-EMC-Input-Filter-7970805-/322048139254?hash=item4afb909ff6:g:HYwAAOSwoudW8SMV for his high power 'xperiments
2016-04-06T16:23:09 < dongs> https://github.com/blog/2146-organizations-can-now-block-abusive-users
2016-04-06T16:24:15 < Sync> pfft PeterM
2016-04-06T16:27:46 < BrainDamage> electromagnetic compatibility
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2016-04-06T17:49:01 < ReadError> yo PeterM
2016-04-06T17:49:05 < ReadError> http://slickdeals.net/f/8522071-4-pack-3400mah-panasonic-protected-rechargeable-li-ion-batteries-16-or-less-free-s-h?page=5#commentsBox
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2016-04-06T17:49:21 < ReadError> freeship
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2016-04-06T17:52:19 < ReadError> EBNET16 <-- 23% off
2016-04-06T17:57:05 < Sync> hm
2016-04-06T17:57:09 < Sync> that's not too bad
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2016-04-06T18:00:36 < metRo__> How can I start a timer based on other timer? I want the following effect: http://i.imgur.com/UTKxars.png
2016-04-06T18:00:59 < dongs> read RM, you can slave the stuff
2016-04-06T18:01:28 < dongs> dunjo if it'll achieve that but maybe
2016-04-06T18:01:29 < metRo__> timer1 is 100Hz and I want timer2 at 100Hz too but with the RisingEdge synchronized
2016-04-06T18:01:37 < metRo__> I'm going to read it
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2016-04-06T18:06:49 < PeterM> ReadError, 2 things, 1) i dunno if they're legit and 2) thats mroe than they cost from FT for me
2016-04-06T18:07:15 < dongs> chiangirl has some panasonic CR2032 for 16c , claims legit
2016-04-06T18:07:16 < dongs> waht do you think
2016-04-06T18:07:24 < ReadError> hmm 14.98 per 4pack
2016-04-06T18:09:06 < PeterM> yeah, probably legit
2016-04-06T18:09:37 < Sync> hm
2016-04-06T18:09:42 < Sync> 16c is pretty cheapsauce dongs
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2016-04-06T21:16:35 < englishman> PeterM: where on FT? i see FT as about 2x price
2016-04-06T21:16:48 < englishman> also, comments lol
2016-04-06T21:16:49 < englishman> What is it use in if it is not AA or AAA, etc ?
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2016-04-06T22:01:38 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/pCgYrzS.png
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2016-04-06T22:08:08 < Steffann> You look scared
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2016-04-06T22:10:59 < kakimir> EPIC elections comming!
2016-04-06T22:11:43 < kakimir> nobody knows what will happen
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2016-04-06T22:20:41 < DrLuke> Has anyone in here ever worked on an arm project with cmake? I'd like to use CLion as my IDE, thus I need to use cmake
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2016-04-06T23:24:41 < BrainDamage> found laurenceb's research: http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/humanoids/stanford-touching-nao-robot
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2016-04-07T00:21:34 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/G8rddMH
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2016-04-07T00:25:02 < englishman> http://ustre.am/13OXH
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2016-04-07T00:30:53 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKaDExaFdaci1Obzg/view?usp=sharing oven process.. bearings for weight scale moment arms
2016-04-07T00:31:42 < kakimir> nothing special
2016-04-07T00:34:43 < BrainDamage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv6zQr1_C9Q flying fleshlight
2016-04-07T00:37:20 < Steffann> is that you foxconning englishman?
2016-04-07T00:37:24 < englishman> yes
2016-04-07T00:38:34 < Steffann> Dont shake so much
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2016-04-07T00:39:58 < englishman> caffffeine
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2016-04-07T00:50:02 < karlp> ohsix: heard generally positive things about it actually.
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2016-04-07T00:58:37 < englishman> i heard the other one had ads, fuck that http://www.youtube.com/user/DTFUHF/live
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2016-04-07T01:01:14 < kakimir> http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1459973271360.jpg
2016-04-07T01:13:20 < Laurenceb_> typical pol thread :P
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2016-04-07T01:33:51 < jadew> kakimir, that can't be true
2016-04-07T01:43:44 < kakimir> my friend swores it is
2016-04-07T01:47:52 < jadew> trying to find footage from there
2016-04-07T01:52:23 < kakimir> die antwoord is from around there
2016-04-07T01:52:29 < kakimir> do you need to know more?
2016-04-07T01:55:02 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI3eGU_wmHg
2016-04-07T01:56:16 < kisielk> kakimir: that's total bullshit
2016-04-07T01:56:40 < Laurenceb_> why dont you ask pol about propane and crabs?
2016-04-07T01:56:41 < Amperture> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Half-completed_manual_soldering_of_surface_mount_MQFP_integrated_circuit.jpg
2016-04-07T01:56:49 < kakimir> kisielk: what is?
2016-04-07T01:56:51 < kisielk> I've been to Joberg, there are definitely parts of the city that are dangerous, particularly at night, but it's not a post-apocalyptic wasteland or anything
2016-04-07T01:57:03 < kisielk> kakimir: the account in that jpg
2016-04-07T01:57:15 < Laurenceb_> <Amperture> thats some pro soldering
2016-04-07T01:58:01 < Laurenceb_> talking of pol I saw Breviks manifesto
2016-04-07T01:58:09 < Laurenceb_> he uses <<>> instead of ""
2016-04-07T01:58:21 < jadew> because home made breakout boards are lame?
2016-04-07T01:58:23 < Laurenceb_> zyp confirmed as Brevik
2016-04-07T01:59:29 < kakimir> shitting into elevator shaft was the part I started feeling I has some coloring to it
2016-04-07T02:00:21 < Laurenceb_> elevatorposting?
2016-04-07T02:00:39 < Laurenceb_> ask them to name their favourite mollusc
2016-04-07T02:01:52 < kakimir> molluscah
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2016-04-07T02:05:34 < kakimir> I don't understand your cryptic 8chain inside jokes
2016-04-07T02:05:40 < kakimir> chan*
2016-04-07T02:08:13 < kakimir> penis
2016-04-07T02:12:42 < kakimir> sure
2016-04-07T02:13:09 < kakimir> anything for you
2016-04-07T02:15:34 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NffhdAz9pc4 some by bigclive
2016-04-07T02:25:53 < jadew> I have a couple of filament LEDs lightbulbs and they suck compared to the regular ones
2016-04-07T02:26:17 < jadew> but I think that has more to do with the SMPS than anything else
2016-04-07T02:26:44 < kakimir> they mean to suck
2016-04-07T02:26:59 < kakimir> and look hip while suckkin
2016-04-07T02:27:16 < jadew> they produce decent light, good temperature too
2016-04-07T02:27:38 < jadew> but for some of them it looks like the SMPS functions at a very low frequency
2016-04-07T02:28:12 < jadew> I'll have to measure it
2016-04-07T02:34:45 < jadew> on the mains?
2016-04-07T02:34:58 < jadew> I don't have access to what's inside
2016-04-07T02:35:06 < jadew> they're enclosed in that glass bubble
2016-04-07T02:35:46 < jadew> I'll just make something to measure the frequency and throw out the ones that have poor performance
2016-04-07T02:36:02 < jadew> and then never buy this type again
2016-04-07T02:36:41 < jadew> also, I don't think a capacitor will help
2016-04-07T02:36:49 < jadew> they're not meant to get DC
2016-04-07T02:38:02 < jadew> they have to be provided with the proper current, but in pulses
2016-04-07T02:38:43 < jadew> if you filter the output you end up feeding them less current so the temperature changes
2016-04-07T02:39:15 < jadew> (the color temperature)
2016-04-07T02:40:27 < jadew> I don't think it will help, I don't think they're misbehaving
2016-04-07T02:41:01 < jadew> they're just poorly designed
2016-04-07T02:42:19 < jadew> heh
2016-04-07T02:42:29 < jadew> I'm planning to test that too
2016-04-07T02:42:44 < jadew> and it's the reason I didn't install them in my room
2016-04-07T02:43:08 < jadew> the noise I get from the PCs PSU is enough
2016-04-07T02:43:12 < ds2> @#$@#!@$#$@#$@#$@#$ HiROSE
2016-04-07T02:44:47 < jadew> actually they stay cool
2016-04-07T02:46:02 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeILL08T08w
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2016-04-07T02:47:36 < mitrax> it's time for crt's ritalin pill
2016-04-07T02:47:49 < mitrax> hold him please
2016-04-07T02:50:54 < mitrax> :(
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2016-04-07T03:00:29 < kakimir> keep buying shiet
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2016-04-07T03:01:54 < Laurenceb_> just replace china LED for LED
2016-04-07T03:02:10 < Laurenceb_> I really dont see the attraction over decent CFL
2016-04-07T03:04:33 < Laurenceb_> doubt it uses much less than half decent CFL
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2016-04-07T03:32:36 < Laurenceb_> oh god eevblog
2016-04-07T03:32:41 < Laurenceb_> that guy is so annoying
2016-04-07T03:32:59 < Laurenceb_> he has no real skillz
2016-04-07T03:34:10  * upgrdman hands crt a douche bag
2016-04-07T03:36:28  * upgrdman nods
2016-04-07T03:38:28 < dongs> nice conversation
2016-04-07T03:48:10 < dongs> not much
2016-04-07T03:48:13 < dongs> dicknplacing
2016-04-07T03:48:24 < dongs> then gotta finish routing this shit I was supposed to finish on monday
2016-04-07T03:48:34 < dongs> then make more new shit
2016-04-07T03:49:29 < Thorn> livin' a dream
2016-04-07T03:52:35 < Sync> dongs: I should have the shits tomorrow
2016-04-07T03:56:31 < dongs> crt: the usual trays of F103CB
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2016-04-07T04:14:38 < englishman> where has R2COM been?
2016-04-07T04:15:03 < englishman> i have not been adequately informed of mother russia's superiority in quite some time
2016-04-07T04:20:23 < Sync> Росси́я stronk!
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2016-04-07T04:38:40 < ds2> finally a nonbroken SAT import on my MCAD
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2016-04-07T04:44:50 < emeb> yo ds2
2016-04-07T04:45:39 < ds2> hey emeb
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2016-04-07T04:49:04 < emeb> R2COM: I've used ngspice some times. Mostly I use ltspice
2016-04-07T04:49:21 < emeb> ds2: ever get that adc hooked up to the beaglebone?
2016-04-07T04:50:17 < ds2> emeb: yes but paying work is keeping me away from the most basic stuff
2016-04-07T04:50:26 < ds2> I got the to read like 4K samples into SRAM and stop
2016-04-07T04:50:59 < ds2> I was stimulating it with a sig gen and unless my sig gen and scope are both out of cal, the xtal on the Beagle is slow
2016-04-07T04:54:11 < emeb> ds2: how slow? most cheap xtals are ~100ppm
2016-04-07T04:54:24 < emeb> so it could be a few khz off
2016-04-07T04:55:27 < ds2> around there
2016-04-07T04:55:56 < ds2> I think for a 8MHz sample rate; and a 2048 point fft, I was off by maybe 10 bins
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2016-04-07T05:04:54 < emeb> ds2: been playing around with some of those Lattice FPGAs
2016-04-07T05:05:11 < emeb> got an icestick - tried it out with those FOSS icestorm tools
2016-04-07T05:05:18 < emeb> seems to work.
2016-04-07T05:05:30 < emeb> Now trying out some of the ice40 ultra parts.
2016-04-07T05:06:37 < dongs> snort
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2016-04-07T05:20:29 < dongs> god damn you faggot beat me to it
2016-04-07T05:20:32 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-07T05:21:34 < englishman> flyback: are you enjoying the snow
2016-04-07T05:24:01 < englishman> russians dont have an I on their keyboard
2016-04-07T05:24:09 < englishman> too individualistic
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2016-04-07T05:31:50 < ReadError> https://gfycat.com/FatherlyRevolvingEwe
2016-04-07T05:32:08 < ReadError> ohsix almost got
2016-04-07T05:32:16 < ReadError> but found a code that is 23% off sitewide
2016-04-07T05:32:33 < dongs> that gif is 100% ohsix
2016-04-07T05:32:37 < ReadError> http://www.everbuying.net/product1100115.html
2016-04-07T05:32:40 < ReadError> grabbed dis
2016-04-07T05:42:35 < ReadError> im not vaping with these
2016-04-07T05:42:49 < ReadError> cuz im using them for something else
2016-04-07T05:42:52 < ReadError> dont need for that
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2016-04-07T05:49:40 < ReadError> R2COM russia is a shithole and putin is a gump
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2016-04-07T05:53:13 < ReadError> I heard Putin plays 2-guys-1-cup with Kim Jong-Un  on the weekend
2016-04-07T05:53:44 < lorenzo> <3 putin
2016-04-07T05:54:10 < ReadError> mmm talk dirty to me
2016-04-07T05:54:12 < ReadError> continue
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2016-04-07T06:05:55 < ReadError> huh?
2016-04-07T06:06:03 < ReadError> never heard of them
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2016-04-07T06:11:06 < ReadError> probably super low discharge
2016-04-07T06:12:07 < ReadError> i bought 48 of the other ones
2016-04-07T06:12:18 < ReadError> to build out 2x 6s4p
2016-04-07T06:13:08 < ReadError> yea I got a legit charger
2016-04-07T06:13:15 < ReadError> Powerlabs PL6
2016-04-07T06:13:20 < ReadError> can do anyting
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2016-04-07T06:17:29 < ReadError> ohsix theres a site with a shitload of test
2016-04-07T06:17:43 < ReadError> but would have to sort through and find the best $$$/performance
2016-04-07T06:19:13 < ReadError> http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Common18650Summary%20UK.html
2016-04-07T06:23:24 < dongs> nice. 500bux more @ feelancer 4 me
2016-04-07T06:23:27 < dongs> soon i can quit my day job
2016-04-07T06:27:49 < Thorn> what happened to the scamshoppe?
2016-04-07T06:29:57 < Thorn> there're more than one?
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2016-04-07T06:32:04 < ReadError> lol wat
2016-04-07T06:32:20 < Thorn> I thought dongs had his own
2016-04-07T06:33:06 < ReadError> http://www.abusemark.com/store/
2016-04-07T06:39:03 < ReadError> you should start a blog
2016-04-07T06:40:02 < ReadError> do a thing?
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2016-04-07T06:42:27 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-07T06:43:21 < ReadError> theres some german software
2016-04-07T06:43:41 < ReadError> http://www.logview.info/cms/e_logview_info.phtml
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2016-04-07T07:35:50 < dongs> zyp, did you choose JST-GH for that nfc shit?
2016-04-07T07:39:13 < dongs> ic wat you did ho
2016-04-07T07:39:16 < dongs>  you used 9pin instead of 8
2016-04-07T07:48:47 < dongs> my office is total fucking mess
2016-04-07T07:48:50 < dongs> gotta do somethin aobut thi shsit fuck
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2016-04-07T07:50:45 < ds2> emeb: is the ice40 big enough for your uses?
2016-04-07T07:52:12 < emeb> ds2: depends
2016-04-07T07:52:23 < emeb> probably not big enough for an SDR front end
2016-04-07T07:52:38 < emeb> but the ice5lp4k may be big enough for some audio stuff.
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2016-04-07T08:18:57 < ReadError> most run the same firmware
2016-04-07T08:20:01 < dongs> uhh
2016-04-07T08:20:04 < dongs> turdigy = HK
2016-04-07T08:21:22 < dongs> avnet charged my card, i wonder if they're finally sending my shit
2016-04-07T08:21:57 < dongs> not stm32, thats for sure
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2016-04-07T08:38:13 < dongs> would be slightly more interesting if it had a stm32 in it
2016-04-07T08:49:23 < emeb_mac> that's CORDIC to you young man
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2016-04-07T09:03:41 < upgrdman> whats for formula for equiv resistance of a voltage divider? like 12V -> divider -> 3V, but 3V with what ESR?
2016-04-07T09:06:12 < upgrdman> ya i remember it being something simple, but but googling is failing me
2016-04-07T09:06:29 < upgrdman> and china internet is slow as fuck, so each google is like a 3 minute ordeal
2016-04-07T09:07:54 < upgrdman> wheres Rout?
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2016-04-07T09:15:21 < jpa-> upgrdman: with R1+R2 divider, the output impedance is (R1*R2)/(R1+R2) (i.e. as if they were in parallel)
2016-04-07T09:16:05 < jpa-> this is assuming that the 12V rail is solid, i.e. 0 impedance.. if the 12V source has significant internal resistance then that has to be added to R1
2016-04-07T09:20:13 < upgrdman> ahh yes
2016-04-07T09:20:13 < upgrdman> thx
2016-04-07T09:20:48 < upgrdman> i just needed to calc the RC time if i add a cap to the output. that did the trick.
2016-04-07T09:21:32 < upgrdman> i just needed a 100nF cap but the only ones i could find are some 1kV 100nF ceramics. lolwut bodge cap FTW
2016-04-07T09:29:34 < ReadError> still in .cn ?
2016-04-07T09:29:48 < dongs> he's chinaman now fullytime
2016-04-07T09:29:51 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-07T09:30:03 < ReadError> lol
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2016-04-07T09:34:10 < PeterM> dongs, Hi! It looks like you've been having to use that copy-pasta a lot lately, have you considered using a more permanent copy-pasta that includes /ignore +ohsix?
2016-04-07T09:35:08 < ReadError> ohsix is pals with dongs
2016-04-07T09:35:35 < PeterM> yeah, im pals with ohsix too, it's just easier
2016-04-07T09:35:50 < PeterM> well, less spammy.
2016-04-07T09:37:02 < jpa-> i'm pals with ohsix too, now that i have him on ignore
2016-04-07T09:39:08 < dongs> < jpa-> i'm pals with ohsix too, now that i have him on ignore
2016-04-07T09:39:11 < dongs> irl lol
2016-04-07T09:40:27 < PeterM> tbh im not surprised with jpa- havin him on ignore, i remember the first time i tried to read this channel logs
2016-04-07T09:41:42 < dongs> yay. sold my first minidp dpadapter
2016-04-07T09:41:59 < dongs> http://abusemark.com/store/images/panel.jpg
2016-04-07T09:43:48 < PeterM> i owuldnt buy it
2016-04-07T09:43:55 < PeterM> the old ones font looks better
2016-04-07T09:44:07 < dongs> PeterM: thas dicktrace font :(
2016-04-07T09:44:13 < dongs> RIP
2016-04-07T09:44:37 < dongs> minidp board = altidong
2016-04-07T09:44:51 < PeterM> can't you jsut use ttf?
2016-04-07T09:45:02 < dongs> lol ttf looks awful
2016-04-07T09:45:08 < PeterM> orally?
2016-04-07T09:45:12 < dongs> yeah, have you tried?
2016-04-07T09:45:16 < PeterM> nup
2016-04-07T09:45:21 < dongs> comic sans is like about the only readable one in ttf mode
2016-04-07T09:45:28 < dongs> all the others are way too thin but if you make htem bold they're huge
2016-04-07T09:45:34 < dongs> and you cant control line thickness onyl height
2016-04-07T09:46:18 < dongs> those are chinaspecial switches
2016-04-07T09:46:18 < dongs> TC-17
2016-04-07T09:46:35 < dongs> or maybe tc20
2016-04-07T09:46:42 < dongs> i pasted the shit to chiangirl and she instantyly knew wahts up
2016-04-07T09:46:49 < PeterM> OPEN CONNECTOR
2016-04-07T09:46:50 < PeterM> VERY CAREFULLY!
2016-04-07T09:47:05 < dongs> http://szycheng.com/ep_s.asp?id=558&class_id=70
2016-04-07T09:47:10 < dongs> PeterM: yes, WITH MISSING DOT ON !
2016-04-07T09:47:11 < dongs> god damn
2016-04-07T09:47:15 < dongs> fkin altidong
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2016-04-07T09:47:35 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-07T09:47:36 < dongs> ah
2016-04-07T09:47:40 < dongs> thats the clone of clone
2016-04-07T09:47:53 < dongs> i have bag of those on my desk, use them in various shits
2016-04-07T09:48:05 < dongs> SKQABE or something from ALPS
2016-04-07T09:48:06 < dongs> is the original
2016-04-07T09:48:25 < dongs> http://www.soundservice.gr/e-shop/en/product.php?products_id=3978
2016-04-07T09:48:26 < dongs> lul
2016-04-07T09:48:29 < dongs> what a motherfucking scam
2016-04-07T09:48:33 < dongs> 4 fucking eur
2016-04-07T09:48:44 < dongs> i think i get those for like $0.01 or someshit
2016-04-07T09:49:44 < dongs> anyway, totally took a guess on those switches, didnt have htem on hand until the full array of pcbs were made
2016-04-07T09:49:54 < dongs> so if they ended up being shit i'd be throwing blank boards away
2016-04-07T09:49:56 < dongs> but they seem to be ok
2016-04-07T09:51:41 < PeterM> JFC
2016-04-07T09:51:45 < PeterM> 4eur
2016-04-07T09:52:07 < dongs> its 3.99 eur more because its for pioneer
2016-04-07T09:52:26 < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/SKQGADE010/?qs=N5Jky1br14PCAY42dbciFw%3D%3D
2016-04-07T09:52:32 < dongs> dude they're evne < $1 for legit ones
2016-04-07T09:52:44 < dongs> in singles
2016-04-07T09:52:59 < PeterM> they're liek $30 a reel
2016-04-07T09:53:21 < dongs> which ones does pioneer use?
2016-04-07T09:53:24 < dongs> ALPS?
2016-04-07T09:54:27 < dongs> no it was correct link
2016-04-07T09:54:29 < dongs> it has 2 STM32s i nit
2016-04-07T09:56:01 < ReadError> why dont they make any self centering pots ;(
2016-04-07T09:56:19 < ReadError> yes like spring loaded
2016-04-07T09:56:30 < ReadError> not the little shitty ones
2016-04-07T09:56:45 < ReadError> ive seen the ones that mount on the edge of a board
2016-04-07T09:56:54 < ReadError> and have up/down and button in
2016-04-07T09:56:54 < dongs> readstoner.
2016-04-07T09:57:12 < ReadError> not sure if thats a pot or just a 3 button switch tho..
2016-04-07T09:57:48 < dongs> ReadError: http://szycheng.com/ep_s.asp?id=604&class_id=70
2016-04-07T09:57:57 < dongs> tho i think those a re jsut switches
2016-04-07T09:57:59 < dongs> not pot
2016-04-07T09:58:09 < ReadError> ya thats what i was talking about
2016-04-07T09:58:12 < zyp> dongs, JST-SH
2016-04-07T09:58:19 < ReadError> wont work though
2016-04-07T09:58:23 < dongs> zyp: kay. yeah, i found my reel of them and mine are 8 pin.
2016-04-07T09:58:29 < dongs> slowlyt geting to making your shit loll.
2016-04-07T09:58:35 < dongs> sorry so much fail + junk in teh way.
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2016-04-07T10:00:19 < ReadError> ohsix in this case, I 'trigger'
2016-04-07T10:00:24 < ReadError> but I can think of other uses
2016-04-07T10:00:32 < ReadError> if i had a knob or something
2016-04-07T10:01:02 < ReadError> like adjustments, more you turn it the faster it changes whatever..
2016-04-07T10:01:30 < ReadError> yea, I know I can make one mechanically
2016-04-07T10:01:42 < ReadError> just figured something off the shelf would exist
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2016-04-07T10:03:55 < dongs> heh i shoulda actually used those rocker-style things in minidp board
2016-04-07T10:03:58 < dongs> instead of just push
2016-04-07T10:04:02 < dongs> but hten i'd havee to write new firmware and shit
2016-04-07T10:04:34 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ETI-Systems/J3RH-S-1/?qs=lIdWLowWylCecsK2s1HGug%3D%3D
2016-04-07T10:04:38 < ReadError> I like this
2016-04-07T10:04:43 < ReadError> but hoe lee fuck
2016-04-07T10:04:46 < ReadError> 153$
2016-04-07T10:04:56 < dongs> only 2 in stock, beter hurry
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2016-04-07T10:08:25 < ReadError> guess I need to fire up solidworks and do some makerstyle 3d printing
2016-04-07T10:12:24 < ReadError> yea thats the only solution ive come up with, gutting other stuff
2016-04-07T10:12:47 < ReadError> I like that hall rocker though, just wish it wasnt 153$
2016-04-07T10:13:21 < PeterM> http://www.dx.com/p/diy-replacement-3d-joystick-cap-for-ps4-black-314146#.VwYIhKR94uU
2016-04-07T10:13:31 < PeterM> and only use one axis stoner
2016-04-07T10:14:31 < ReadError> yea that was the other idea I had, that PeterM posted
2016-04-07T10:15:03 < ReadError> may just machine/print something though, can run stiffer springs
2016-04-07T10:15:36 < ReadError> yea but 1 direction
2016-04-07T10:16:57 < PeterM> also, whats wrong with standart wii nunchuck?just get it and 3dprint new nob for joysdick
2016-04-07T10:17:13 < ReadError> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:922378
2016-04-07T10:17:36 < ReadError> PeterM not a thumb fan
2016-04-07T10:17:55 < PeterM> true day
2016-04-07T10:17:58 < PeterM> dat
2016-04-07T10:18:47 < dongs> ohh, mod wheels
2016-04-07T10:18:51 < ReadError> yea that was somethin that came up in my searching
2016-04-07T10:19:32 < PeterM> tho i am still thinkin hacksaw off one side of an xbox controller, for buttons + trigger
2016-04-07T10:20:08 < ReadError> ohsix i want to add an OLED module
2016-04-07T10:20:18 < ReadError> like one of the long skinny ones
2016-04-07T10:21:37 < ReadError> oh intersting, so they have both?
2016-04-07T10:21:53 < ReadError> encoder would work if it centered with spring ya
2016-04-07T10:22:43 < ReadError> well ya if you let go it returns to center and coasts
2016-04-07T10:23:02 < ReadError> neutral
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2016-04-07T10:25:14 < ReadError> I couldnt imagine using it w/o a spring
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2016-04-07T10:30:07 < ReadError> oh the 'trigger' on theirs just enables it
2016-04-07T10:31:13 < ReadError> VESC has traction control
2016-04-07T10:31:23 < ReadError> between both motors
2016-04-07T10:31:47 < ReadError> yea
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2016-04-07T10:34:43 < ReadError> http://e0designs.com/products/hall-effect-sensor-board/
2016-04-07T10:34:53 < ReadError> thats cool, not sure if its worth adding
2016-04-07T10:38:12 < ReadError> https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=69959&p=1055506
2016-04-07T10:38:20 < ReadError> thats the other way ive seen it done
2016-04-07T10:38:38 < ReadError> I kinda wanna add a thermocouple
2016-04-07T10:38:52 < ReadError> hmm release I just watched seemed okay
2016-04-07T10:39:03 < ReadError> Broad.City.S03E08.HDTV.x264-FLEET.mp4
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2016-04-07T11:00:54 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/Yds6AOw.png
2016-04-07T11:00:58 < ReadError> wonder how this would work
2016-04-07T11:01:35 < PeterM> pretty poorly
2016-04-07T11:01:36 < ReadError> w/ bearing support
2016-04-07T11:01:50 < ReadError> PeterM hmm
2016-04-07T11:01:50 < PeterM> magnets are exponential
2016-04-07T11:02:01 < PeterM> you'd get stuck full forward full reverse
2016-04-07T11:02:19 < ReadError> springs would require a bit more mechanical work than just connecting them to the trigger
2016-04-07T11:02:19 < PeterM> and would be hard to stay in the middle
2016-04-07T11:03:08 < ReadError> since you need to dis-engage the opposite one when going one direction
2016-04-07T11:04:35 < ReadError> http://www.mcmaster.com/#torsion-springs/=11vi4o3 or these might work
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2016-04-07T11:06:58 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/XFUiZwF.png
2016-04-07T11:07:04 < PeterM> http://www.mcmaster.com/#compression-springs/=11vi5xu
2016-04-07T11:07:40 < ReadError> PeterM yea but then you end up fighting the other spring, no?
2016-04-07T11:08:01 < ReadError> like if you had them fixed to something at either side, you are pushing on one and pulling on the other
2016-04-07T11:08:56 < ReadError> or I guess have them disconnected from the actual trigger and something to stop them at the center
2016-04-07T11:10:48 < PeterM> you have them not affixed to the trigger, only to the housing, and oyu place them equidistant with the trigger in the middle, you are only ever pushign against one spring
2016-04-07T11:10:50 < ReadError> maybe hall effect sensors on each side
2016-04-07T11:10:59 < ReadError> and a magnet in the middle
2016-04-07T11:11:03 < ReadError> drop the pot all together
2016-04-07T11:11:15 < ReadError> then running it on a bearing would be pretty easy
2016-04-07T11:15:54 < ReadError> gas the drug?
2016-04-07T11:16:04 < ReadError> must have something to do with meth
2016-04-07T11:17:41 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/TgHVb5d.png
2016-04-07T11:17:43 < dongs> google jp
2016-04-07T11:17:53 < dongs> lol @ weebs
2016-04-07T11:18:54 < ReadError> kikes even the tykes ? lol
2016-04-07T11:32:22 < PeterM> ReadError, what about a blancing trigger like http://i.imgur.com/WmryjB8.png
2016-04-07T11:32:48 < ReadError> hmm thats a good idea
2016-04-07T11:32:52 < ReadError> much easier mechanically
2016-04-07T11:34:14 < ReadError> the boosted one is 100$
2016-04-07T11:34:28 < ReadError> plus I want to add more than just the controller
2016-04-07T11:34:38 < ReadError> would like to have full telemetry for the display
2016-04-07T11:35:57 < PeterM> bloodyu hell how did the flysky tx get so expensive
2016-04-07T11:36:11 < ReadError> PeterM ya they are like 30-40$
2016-04-07T11:36:22 < ReadError> seems like a waste just to gut the trigger
2016-04-07T11:36:48 < PeterM> i literally have 6 opf them sitting around, i bought like 5 of them for $15 each ages back ( i got the fancy gt3c though)
2016-04-07T11:37:51 < ReadError> you do the firmware mod on it?
2016-04-07T11:38:27 < PeterM> nope
2016-04-07T11:38:35 < PeterM> i dont use em anymroe
2016-04-07T11:38:52 < PeterM> the steering would always fuck up
2016-04-07T11:40:08 < zyp> any nice tricks for selection in altium?
2016-04-07T11:40:14 < dongs> like wat?
2016-04-07T11:40:27 < dongs> i use ctrl+h and stuff
2016-04-07T11:40:32 < zyp> I want to select a chip, all connected passives around it and the traces in between
2016-04-07T11:40:57 < dongs> select chip+passives, hold shift and ctrl+h the traces i geuss
2016-04-07T11:48:19 < dongs> 1st prize:
2016-04-07T11:48:19 < dongs> FOR HAVING THE BEST DESIGN / IDEAS / INPUT
2016-04-07T11:48:20 < dongs> You will receive one of the controllers you helped design & an enertion shirt & hat. Sent anywhere in the world for FREE.
2016-04-07T11:48:23 < dongs> haha
2016-04-07T11:48:24 < dongs> what a great fuckin deal
2016-04-07T11:49:34 < PeterM> wut
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2016-04-07T11:53:43 < zyp> meh, concluded it was easier to just use normal selection a bunch of times to make sure I got everything
2016-04-07T11:53:58 < zyp> just needed a few tries to get everything, there's shit stacked in a ton of layers
2016-04-07T11:54:00 < dongs> zyp, select -> touching line also works i duno
2016-04-07T11:55:21 < zyp> too many traces that I want to click on each
2016-04-07T11:56:13 < zyp> inspector says 548 objects, including trace segments
2016-04-07T11:56:38 < zyp> 50 components
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2016-04-07T11:56:54 < zyp> and five layers worth of traces
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2016-04-07T11:58:56 < dongs> make sure you=re not in single layer mode when you select
2016-04-07T11:58:59 < dongs> shift-s or whatever
2016-04-07T11:59:07 < dongs> or else you dont pickup under layers in selections
2016-04-07T11:59:22 < dongs> tho you probably knew that
2016-04-07T11:59:39 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/GP8kPoI.jpg explain this hsit dongs
2016-04-07T12:00:02 < dongs> looks normal to me
2016-04-07T12:00:05 < dongs> open from 5.30 to 1am
2016-04-07T12:00:36 < PeterM> i see
2016-04-07T12:00:42 < PeterM> is that standard notation over there?
2016-04-07T12:00:43 < ReadError> 25:00 = 1am ? lol
2016-04-07T12:01:12 < ReadError> ive never seen it done like that but I guess it makes sense *shrug*
2016-04-07T12:01:57 < ReadError> whats the point in closing for 4.5hrs
2016-04-07T12:02:08 < ReadError> since they have work to do closing and work to do before opening
2016-04-07T12:02:10 < PeterM> 05:30 - 01:00 here and being non retarded people can it out
2016-04-07T12:02:45 < PeterM> ReadError, probably give to to clean the place up, restock and shit
2016-04-07T12:04:27 < ReadError> The.Internet.Ruined.My.Life.S01E05.720p.HDTV.x264-FIRST
2016-04-07T12:04:41 < ReadError> this better be the one with the hipster+typewriter
2016-04-07T12:04:54 < Amperture> S1E5?
2016-04-07T12:05:00 < ReadError> yes
2016-04-07T12:05:01 < Amperture> Who is that one based off of?
2016-04-07T12:05:07 < ReadError> hm?
2016-04-07T12:05:13 < ReadError> not watched it yet
2016-04-07T12:05:46 < ReadError> but the into they have this hipster sitting in a park with a typewriter
2016-04-07T12:05:51 < ReadError> and he got turned into a meme
2016-04-07T12:05:51 < Amperture> Wasn't there some turbo-feminist who said she was convinced she had an ex-Navy Seal sniper perched outside her window?
2016-04-07T12:05:56 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-07T12:06:01 < ReadError> gamergate hoe
2016-04-07T12:06:05 < ReadError> one of em anyways
2016-04-07T12:06:27 < Amperture> Because someone posted the "What the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch" copypasta to her?
2016-04-07T12:07:33 < Amperture> Had to double-check what channel I was in
2016-04-07T12:10:10 < Amperture> Oh god
2016-04-07T12:10:10 < Amperture> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfVgQd1WsAEPl9S.jpg:large
2016-04-07T12:11:43 < dongs> doesnt look funny
2016-04-07T12:11:45 < dongs> whats going on?
2016-04-07T12:12:03 < ReadError> he was jerking off
2016-04-07T12:12:07 < ReadError> while choking himself
2016-04-07T12:12:21 < ReadError> then i guess they found him with oculus on
2016-04-07T12:13:20 < dongs> does that mean that shitheap finally shipped
2016-04-07T12:13:24 < dongs> like 5 years behind schedule
2016-04-07T12:13:48 < dongs> selloutstarter
2016-04-07T12:13:52 < ReadError> hahaha
2016-04-07T12:13:55 < ReadError> this episode
2016-04-07T12:14:06 < ReadError> some bitch tweeted a 'Glee' spoiler
2016-04-07T12:14:22 < Amperture> ReadError, name?
2016-04-07T12:14:24 < ReadError> im not watching glee
2016-04-07T12:14:31 < ReadError> im watching that internet ruined my life
2016-04-07T12:14:41 < ReadError> @nicolecrowther
2016-04-07T12:15:14 < Amperture> S1E1 is the CancelColbert bitch
2016-04-07T12:15:21 < ReadError> oh ya lol
2016-04-07T12:15:26 < ReadError> that bitch was super paranoid
2016-04-07T12:15:44 < ReadError> she did say white males cant have an opinion
2016-04-07T12:17:05 < ReadError> "i was starting to get major backlash from Gleeks"
2016-04-07T12:17:06 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-07T12:17:06 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-07T12:17:46 < ReadError> ok lets talk about stm32
2016-04-07T12:18:12 < ReadError> dongs what features does your vaporist vaporizer have
2016-04-07T12:18:15 < ReadError> BLE?
2016-04-07T12:18:45 < Amperture> Can we accomplish a rudimentary white supremacist twitterbot on an stm32?
2016-04-07T12:18:48 < ReadError> never heard of it
2016-04-07T12:19:17 < ReadError> didnt they fire that bot back up?
2016-04-07T12:19:20 < ReadError> round2
2016-04-07T12:22:37 < ReadError> STMicroelectronics Accelerates STM8 Sales past Two Billion Units, Boosting Share of World Microcontroller Market
2016-04-07T12:22:44 < ReadError> thats a lot of stm8s
2016-04-07T12:23:38 < Amperture> I wouldn't have thought the stm8 would even have market share. I only ever read about it on ST's own site. I'm always hearing about PIC's and AVR's with the occasional MSP430
2016-04-07T12:24:28 < PeterM> ReadError, what happened to STM32W?
2016-04-07T12:24:40 < ReadError> I wanna mess with one of those ESP's
2016-04-07T12:25:03 < Amperture> >random chink shit
2016-04-07T12:25:07 < Amperture> >unknown architecture
2016-04-07T12:25:15 < Amperture> >almost entirely unddocumented
2016-04-07T12:25:36 < Amperture> >if you can program it at all, it's in Arduino or LUA
2016-04-07T12:25:38 < ReadError> i want to put a badass FEM on it
2016-04-07T12:26:19 < PeterM> crt been there, done that, not as fun as you'd think
2016-04-07T12:26:28 < ReadError> front end module
2016-04-07T12:26:33 < ReadError> PA/LNA combo
2016-04-07T12:26:46 < PeterM> ReadError, what happened to STM32W?
2016-04-07T12:27:17 < ReadError> PeterM probably in the same pile as the java enabled STM32
2016-04-07T12:27:52 < ReadError> hahah this other bitch, she used the wrong emoji on twitter
2016-04-07T12:27:59 < ReadError> used the laughing instead of crying
2016-04-07T12:28:06 < ReadError> about 2 police officers getting shot
2016-04-07T12:28:09 < dongs> stm32w is dead
2016-04-07T12:28:55 < PeterM> ReadError, speakin of bitchs and killing, what happened to the girls Laurenceb linked
2016-04-07T12:29:08 < ReadError> which?
2016-04-07T12:29:52 < ReadError> oh neat, chibios HAL for stm8
2016-04-07T12:29:54 < dongs> does stmicroelectronics have a twitte3r
2016-04-07T12:30:17 < PeterM> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35971209
2016-04-07T12:30:58 < dongs> https://twitter.com/ST_World
2016-04-07T12:31:00 < dongs> not even verified
2016-04-07T12:31:16 < ReadError> whats hilarious is all the girls running off and joining ISIS
2016-04-07T12:31:29 < ReadError> like, yea they totally wont hold you prisoner and rape you
2016-04-07T12:34:13 < dongs> ugh wow
2016-04-07T12:34:20 < dongs> twatter is full of "promoted tweets"
2016-04-07T12:34:26 < dongs> i scrolled down the ST_World thing
2016-04-07T12:34:30 < dongs> and tehres a shit every 5 twats
2016-04-07T12:34:33 < dongs> thats some fucking ad
2016-04-07T12:35:01 < ReadError> the stm8 compiler is free now?
2016-04-07T12:35:06 < dongs> has been
2016-04-07T12:35:08 < dongs> since march?
2016-04-07T12:36:08 < ReadError> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/FM147/CL1794/SC1807/SS1747/PF263328
2016-04-07T12:36:10 < ReadError> ya march 2nd
2016-04-07T12:36:13 < dongs> https://twitter.com/ST_World/status/711878721951682560 ReadError more chances to get free f7-disco
2016-04-07T12:37:11 < ReadError> timezones are still CET
2016-04-07T12:37:18 < ReadError> so unlikely america
2016-04-07T12:37:31 < Amperture> crt, the f7 disco is like $60
2016-04-07T12:37:45 < Amperture> Which wouldn't be that bad if I weren't still broke as shit
2016-04-07T12:37:46 < ReadError> ohsix ya it does
2016-04-07T12:37:50 < ReadError> they cancelled my last one
2016-04-07T12:38:03 < dongs> i got a free one sent to me by DHL
2016-04-07T12:38:07 < dongs> and I didnt even attend the seminar
2016-04-07T12:38:09 < dongs> i just clicked link
2016-04-07T12:38:14 < dongs> readstoner clicked at same time and missed out
2016-04-07T12:38:15 < dongs> lulz
2016-04-07T12:38:52 < dongs> hm it sux that cosmic shit now *forces* stm32 tools
2016-04-07T12:38:54 < dongs> dont realyl need those
2016-04-07T12:39:08 < ReadError> ohsix it was for a seminar for EU people
2016-04-07T12:39:12 < dongs> the stm8 compiler.
2016-04-07T12:39:18 < dongs> it bundles stm32 compiler also in the download.
2016-04-07T12:39:52 < ReadError> Dear STM32 friend,
2016-04-07T12:39:52 < ReadError> Thanks for your feedback to our campaign, unfortunately we cannot ship to off-shore locations, our offer being restricted to EMEA countries.
2016-04-07T12:39:52 < ReadError> Please do not hesitate to contact our regional offices and customer service who may help you.
2016-04-07T12:40:02 < ReadError> I got that email
2016-04-07T12:40:14 < dongs> but japan != EMEA
2016-04-07T12:40:17 < dongs> emea is like pakis
2016-04-07T12:40:25 < ReadError> ohsix nah
2016-04-07T12:40:32 < ReadError> im not sure why its restricted
2016-04-07T12:40:38 < dongs> well F7 has crypto
2016-04-07T12:40:40 < ReadError> maybe they are doing different ones for america
2016-04-07T12:40:44 < dongs> but shouldnt be an issue for shipping TO usa?
2016-04-07T12:41:55 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/wSHqwon.png
2016-04-07T12:42:02 < ReadError> there, some america ones coming up
2016-04-07T12:42:58 < dongs> that twatter i linked has registration for F7 seminar
2016-04-07T12:43:07 < ReadError> ahh fuck, they are in person only ones though
2016-04-07T12:43:14 < dongs> my twat is online.
2016-04-07T12:43:19 < ReadError> so i dont think they will mail the f7
2016-04-07T12:43:20 < dongs> < dongs> https://twitter.com/ST_World/status/711878721951682560 ReadError more chances to get free f7-disco
2016-04-07T12:43:26 < dongs> they will.
2016-04-07T12:43:29 < ReadError> dongs yea i filled that out
2016-04-07T12:43:39 < ReadError> but it didnt ask for address or anything like the other one
2016-04-07T12:45:37 < ReadError> https://twitter.com/ST_World/status/712944632804601857
2016-04-07T12:45:39 < ReadError> haha wtf
2016-04-07T12:45:42 < ReadError> click #whiteGood
2016-04-07T12:45:52 < ReadError> i dont get this
2016-04-07T12:46:19 < metRo_> I'm very confused about the chaining timers feature
2016-04-07T12:46:29 < metRo_> I set up TIM2 in triggermode
2016-04-07T12:46:33 < dongs>  < ReadError> click #whiteGood
2016-04-07T12:46:37 < dongs> hhaha
2016-04-07T12:46:40 < metRo_> and seletected ITR0 to connect it to TIM1
2016-04-07T12:46:53 < metRo_> however whatever I choose
2016-04-07T12:46:59 < metRo_> it always output the same
2016-04-07T12:47:10 < metRo_> I can select ITR0, ITR1, ITR2
2016-04-07T12:47:14 < metRo_> the result is always the same
2016-04-07T12:50:10 < PeterM> http://hamusoku.com/archives/9221889.html
2016-04-07T12:50:21 < dongs> crt: keep your pumping trash in privmsg
2016-04-07T12:50:24 < dongs> thank you
2016-04-07T12:51:08 < ReadError> weev gon end up back in jail
2016-04-07T12:51:09 < dongs> and no, not to ME
2016-04-07T12:51:11 < ReadError> only a matter of time
2016-04-07T12:51:16 < dongs> you dumb fucking kike
2016-04-07T12:51:24 < dongs> crt: msg it to ohsix
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2016-04-07T13:01:24 < ReadError> heh nothing on the couch it seems
2016-04-07T13:04:52 < metRo_> can anyone help me what is wrong?
2016-04-07T13:04:53 < lorenzo> noticed a lack of pumps lately
2016-04-07T13:11:01 < metRo_> ohsix: I have timer1 with a PWM and I want to start TIMER2 on the fallingEdge of the pwm
2016-04-07T13:11:09 < metRo_> i'm uploading an image
2016-04-07T13:11:29 < ReadError> Is ITR# tied to TIM# ?
2016-04-07T13:12:14 < metRo_> http://i.imgur.com/3Fpe9cw.png timer1 as black and timer2 as red
2016-04-07T13:12:51 < metRo_> ReadError: that is the problem, I can select any ITR# that the output is the same
2016-04-07T13:13:17 < ReadError> which stm?
2016-04-07T13:13:28 < metRo_> stm32F072
2016-04-07T13:15:09 < metRo_> ohsix: I select Trigger Mode
2016-04-07T13:15:29 < metRo_> but then I can select any trigger source that it will output the same wave
2016-04-07T13:15:50 < metRo_> i'm upload a photo
2016-04-07T13:16:53 < metRo_> ohsix: http://i.imgur.com/piS9t5T.jpg
2016-04-07T13:17:20 < metRo_> I want the yellow wave start after the FE of the blue wave
2016-04-07T13:18:02 < metRo_> TIM1 has master enable and Trigger Event to Output Compare (OC1REF)
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2016-04-07T13:22:33 < metRo_> ?
2016-04-07T13:23:20 < ReadError> maybe u should paste the code
2016-04-07T13:23:27 < ReadError> you arent really giving much info
2016-04-07T13:26:04 < ReadError> well yea but that doesnt explain why its not working
2016-04-07T13:27:30 < metRo_> http://pastebin.com/cqeYukJR
2016-04-07T13:27:35 < metRo_> code for timers set up
2016-04-07T13:28:29 < metRo_> I have read some applications notes from st and also the reference manual
2016-04-07T13:28:39 < metRo_> I can't get why it isn't working :s
2016-04-07T13:29:20 < metRo_> I can't get why I have set it up to trigger mode and whatever ITR# I select it outputs a wave where it should only output when ITR0 is selected
2016-04-07T13:29:33 < metRo_> because it is what connect the TIM2 to TIM1
2016-04-07T13:29:35 < ReadError> isnt there some register to select rising/falling edge?
2016-04-07T13:31:29 < ReadError> http://www.st.com/web/en/resource/technical/document/application_note/DM00042534.pdf
2016-04-07T13:31:32 < ReadError> page23
2016-04-07T13:31:51 < ReadError> doesnt mention falling edge at all
2016-04-07T13:32:47 < ReadError> nm i have no idea what im talking about
2016-04-07T13:32:51 < metRo_> ReadError: I suppose that on FE is where the Output Compare event is fired
2016-04-07T13:33:17 < metRo_> and I have selected OC1REF as trigger event output from TIM1
2016-04-07T13:34:58 < metRo_> maybe OC1REF isn't what I think it is
2016-04-07T13:36:23 < dongs> http://lumineq.com/sites/default/files/product/fields/field_operating_manual/operation_manual_el640.480-am_1.pdf
2016-04-07T13:37:43 < metRo_> done :D
2016-04-07T13:39:42 < metRo_> https://i.imgur.com/g8HtRGw.jpg
2016-04-07T13:42:41 < metRo_> crt :)
2016-04-07T13:43:09 < ReadError> what did u fix metRo_
2016-04-07T13:48:57 < mitrax> crt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6xuOQv99eE&t=0m15s
2016-04-07T13:53:58 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-37643-Medium-Strength-Threadlocker/dp/B0053ZNMDE/
2016-04-07T13:54:00 < ReadError> oh nice
2016-04-07T13:54:09 < ReadError> good idea
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2016-04-07T13:56:46 < PeterM> god fucking damnit
2016-04-07T13:57:03 < PeterM> fuckign irc client stopped logging when i installed windows 10
2016-04-07T13:57:11 < ReadError> lol HydraIRC
2016-04-07T13:57:13 < PeterM> fuckin forgot to set that shit up again
2016-04-07T13:57:13 < ReadError> attn dongs
2016-04-07T13:57:21 < PeterM> fucking garbage client
2016-04-07T13:57:38 < PeterM> yes you are
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2016-04-07T13:59:44 < mitrax> glad you like it :)
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2016-04-07T14:00:37 < dongs> wat
2016-04-07T14:01:03 < dongs> metRo_: T'D
2016-04-07T14:01:47 < dongs> time to hit up feelancer
2016-04-07T14:01:52 < dongs> ReadError: did you hear i got 500bux more today there
2016-04-07T14:02:00 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-07T14:02:05 < dongs> and the dudes i assembled some shit before want a whole bunch more made soon
2016-04-07T14:02:07 < ReadError> just doing assembly shit?
2016-04-07T14:02:09 < dongs> yes
2016-04-07T14:02:29 < ReadError> not bad
2016-04-07T14:02:59 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Make-tablet/
2016-04-07T14:03:01 < dongs> lmao
2016-04-07T14:03:10 < dongs> clicking to see who wants ot od it
2016-04-07T14:03:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/yuanbing8888.html
2016-04-07T14:03:18 < dongs> yeah sounds australian allright
2016-04-07T14:03:57 < ReadError> fucking tards
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2016-04-07T14:04:19 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Make-Android-phone/
2016-04-07T14:04:19 < dongs> same guy
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2016-04-07T14:04:55 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Bootloader-with-two-versions-for-10147729/
2016-04-07T14:04:58 < dongs> over i2c?
2016-04-07T14:05:00 < dongs> fuckin jews
2016-04-07T14:05:27 < dongs> oh hoho
2016-04-07T14:05:33 < dongs> that guy is on shithub
2016-04-07T14:05:36 < dongs> https://github.com/alior101
2016-04-07T14:05:52 < ReadError> why over i2c ?
2016-04-07T14:05:57 < dongs> no clue
2016-04-07T14:06:00 < dongs> sounds dumb and slow
2016-04-07T14:07:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Data-capture-Microcontroller-EEprom-10146734/  this guy keeps reposting his skimmer project
2016-04-07T14:09:50 < dongs> hmm should I just #yolo it and move my current SSD into z170 board and watch windows boot
2016-04-07T14:20:03 < metRo_> ReadError ohsix using OC1REF doesn't trigger when there is a compare however it is high before the compare so the TIM2 triger at the same time of TIM1, using Compare Output OC1 it trigger output event on CCxIF
2016-04-07T14:20:22 < metRo_> http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/resource/technical/document/reference_manual/DM00031936.pdf page 401
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2016-04-07T14:46:49 < karlp> heh, new discovery board.... (sortof) http://www2.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/product-evaluation-tools/mcu-eval-tools/spc5-automotive-mcu-eval-tools/spc56m-discovery.html
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2016-04-07T14:50:25 < qyx> too much unknown buses
2016-04-07T14:50:35 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/z6gZzd2.png
2016-04-07T14:50:49 < Sync> wtf karlp
2016-04-07T14:50:53 < Sync> kline?
2016-04-07T14:50:58 < Sync> are they srs?
2016-04-07T14:52:44 < karlp> kline is still an OBD2 allowed protocol right?
2016-04-07T14:52:58 < karlp> maybe you're meant to use this to build l33t m0ds for old cars?
2016-04-07T14:53:00 < Sync> iirc only can
2016-04-07T14:53:10 < Sync> kline has been phased out
2016-04-07T14:53:25 < Sync> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/PF258299 "open source" compiler "1 year node locked license"
2016-04-07T14:53:26 < karlp> no clue, not my field :)
2016-04-07T14:53:30 < Sync> wat are they smoking?
2016-04-07T14:54:00 < karlp> yeah, I brielfly looked at what spc56 actually is vs gcc's powerpc options, then rememebered that I don't care, and am trying to get back to work
2016-04-07T14:54:22 < karlp> holy fuck though, the ohsix/crt/laurenceb crapshow has gotten more and more out of hand.
2016-04-07T14:54:38 < karlp> I used to just be able to ignore artoocommie's overnight rants for the most part, but now...
2016-04-07T14:54:47 < karlp> hey there crt :)
2016-04-07T14:55:09 < Sync> karlp: well, there is that infineon tricore shit
2016-04-07T14:56:05 < dongs> wtf is with st site
2016-04-07T14:56:08 < dongs> that loks mobile
2016-04-07T14:56:10 < dongs> karlp's link
2016-04-07T15:02:07 < karlp> dongs: don't know man, it started loading looking normal, then all of a sudden switched
2016-04-07T15:02:11 < karlp> no clue what happened.
2016-04-07T15:02:31 < karlp> then Igot a new privacy cookies shit overlay, and a "would you like to take a survey" button later
2016-04-07T15:02:36 < karlp> must be st's new hotness ;)
2016-04-07T15:02:45 < dongs> it looks mobile tho
2016-04-07T15:02:50 < dongs> unless they''ve gone full retard
2016-04-07T15:02:53 < dongs> and that is now thier main site
2016-04-07T15:07:13 < dongs> im plugging kikelake  cpu into socket
2016-04-07T15:07:16 < dongs> wish me luck
2016-04-07T15:08:37 < dongs> wuw
2016-04-07T15:08:43 < dongs> they made  the PCB core thin as shit
2016-04-07T15:09:17 < Sync> save dem monies
2016-04-07T15:09:52 < dongs> is dual channel ddr still a thing
2016-04-07T15:10:09 < dongs> downloading manual cuz im dum
2016-04-07T15:10:56 < dongs> anus site is slow as shit
2016-04-07T15:12:28 < dongs> good thing i read manual
2016-04-07T15:12:34 < dongs> apparently 2 dimm configuration is to fill B1,B2 sockets
2016-04-07T15:12:39 < dongs> err A2,B2
2016-04-07T15:12:43 < dongs> not A1,B1 as one would expect
2016-04-07T15:14:01 < dongs> just noticed bomtttom fo these memory modules is fucking curved
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2016-04-07T15:22:39 < dongs> lol there's a fucking
2016-04-07T15:22:43 < dongs> W_PUMP
2016-04-07T15:22:45 < dongs> socket
2016-04-07T15:22:47 < dongs> next to cpu
2016-04-07T15:23:18 < zyp> heh
2016-04-07T15:24:54 < dongs> evry single xtal on this thing is HC49/S
2016-04-07T15:25:06 < dongs> complete shitheap
2016-04-07T15:26:14 < Sync> well, they are cheap
2016-04-07T15:26:15 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-07T15:26:21 < dongs> i wanna put pink led into M2_ACT part.
2016-04-07T15:26:24 < dongs> lets see if I can make it happen
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2016-04-07T15:29:02 < dongs> they didnt populate it
2016-04-07T15:29:05 < dongs> duno why
2016-04-07T15:29:11 < Sync> too expensive
2016-04-07T15:30:06 < dongs> o my
2016-04-07T15:30:11 < dongs> unsolderable motherboard solder
2016-04-07T15:30:37 < dongs> getting a fatter tip
2016-04-07T15:30:44 < dongs> my meetcal cant even touch it
2016-04-07T15:31:10 < Sync> should have gotten the jbc
2016-04-07T15:33:22 < dongs> if it works should I post on [H]ardOCP
2016-04-07T15:33:31 < dongs> is t his considered a pro mod
2016-04-07T15:33:34 < dongs> in 2016
2016-04-07T15:35:37 < dongs> Sync: i duno about cost
2016-04-07T15:35:42 < dongs> they populated the npn/pnp thats driving it
2016-04-07T15:35:45 < dongs> but not the led or resistor
2016-04-07T15:35:58 < Sync> haha
2016-04-07T15:35:58 < Sync> nice
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2016-04-07T15:39:17 < Sync> dongs: is there cheap/non suck shipping from jappuland to europe?
2016-04-07T15:40:06 < BrainDamage> you had me as non suck shipping
2016-04-07T15:41:10 < dongs> sync, EMS is like $13 bucks for < 200grams or omeshit
2016-04-07T15:41:14 < dongs> and its tehre in a week
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2016-04-07T15:43:39 < Sync> yeah, I need to ship a 19" thing
2016-04-07T15:43:42 < Sync> which is not < 200g
2016-04-07T15:44:49 < Laurenceb_> say we make this fraction... Improper.
2016-04-07T15:45:13 < Laurenceb_> ok new LSM9DS1 footprint http://i.imgur.com/yqpMEdk.png
2016-04-07T15:45:17 < Laurenceb_> I hope this works
2016-04-07T15:45:38 < dongs> no
2016-04-07T15:45:39 < dongs> that looks awful
2016-04-07T15:45:46 < dongs> did you look at gerbers for their breakout board?
2016-04-07T15:46:01 < Laurenceb_> nope lol
2016-04-07T15:46:06 < Laurenceb_> whats wrong with it?
2016-04-07T15:46:53 < jpa-> i hope your paste apertures are smaller than that, though
2016-04-07T15:47:06 < Laurenceb_> they are
2016-04-07T15:56:10 < mitrax> i'd make the pads narrower
2016-04-07T15:57:24 < Laurenceb_> ok
2016-04-07T15:58:17 < Laurenceb_> I guess I might be able to get some solder stop layer between them then
2016-04-07T15:58:19 < Laurenceb_> ok bbl
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2016-04-07T16:23:14 < metRo_> what is TRC?
2016-04-07T16:23:28 < metRo_> can't find on datasheet the meaning
2016-04-07T16:23:38 < metRo_> it appears on timers section
2016-04-07T16:28:07 < englishman> Laurenceb: wtf
2016-04-07T16:28:15 < englishman> that looks nothing like st-recommended footprint
2016-04-07T16:28:25 < lorenzo> metRo_: should be trigger control
2016-04-07T16:28:34 < lorenzo> metRo_: http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/resource/technical/document/application_note/CD00165509.pdf
2016-04-07T16:28:34 < lorenzo> page 11
2016-04-07T16:30:17 < metRo_> lorenzo: thank you
2016-04-07T16:30:34 < lorenzo> no problem
2016-04-07T16:30:38 < englishman> flyback how goes the snow shovelling
2016-04-07T16:31:03 < englishman> good. dont
2016-04-07T16:31:17 < englishman> metro ftw
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2016-04-07T17:00:07 < dongs> new
2016-04-07T17:00:12 < dongs> new kikelake 23C @ idle
2016-04-07T17:10:29 < mitrax> crt: interesting, too bad the dumb bitch interrupts him every 5 min with a stupid poll
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2016-04-07T17:25:19 < dongs> crt: 6700
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2016-04-07T17:33:45 < Steffann> Thats i7 not?
2016-04-07T17:33:54 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-07T17:33:57 < zyp> dongs, what's your room temp?
2016-04-07T17:34:04 < dongs> zyp, japan
2016-04-07T17:34:10 < dongs> probly around 20C
2016-04-07T17:34:11 < dongs> lols.
2016-04-07T17:34:25 < Steffann> My i5 idles at around a few degrees above my room temp too
2016-04-07T17:34:29 < Steffann> Also skilake
2016-04-07T17:34:46 < Steffann> And that with the best os in the world
2016-04-07T17:34:47 < zyp> pro idler
2016-04-07T17:36:51 < Laurenceb> <englishman> first attempt was recommended footprint
2016-04-07T17:36:59 < Laurenceb> this  http://www2.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/technical_note/73/17/9c/16/dd/96/4a/01/CD00134799.pdf/files/CD00134799.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00134799.pdf
2016-04-07T17:37:26 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/ClQDznF.png
2016-04-07T17:38:15 < Laurenceb> it works for me... if i put a M2.5 nut ontop
2016-04-07T17:38:45 < Laurenceb> I've extended the pads to give more room for excess solder to wick outside the footprint
2016-04-07T17:43:35 < englishman> lol
2016-04-07T17:43:41 < englishman> too much paste?
2016-04-07T17:43:50 < Laurenceb> I dont think so
2016-04-07T17:44:03 < Laurenceb> mismatched solder bump heights
2016-04-07T17:46:23 < dongs> Laurenceb: http://i.imgur.com/AVHgVlu.png st footprint @ t  heir 24dil breakout boar
2016-04-07T17:46:39 < Laurenceb> eek
2016-04-07T17:46:48 < Laurenceb> well I guess its very uniform
2016-04-07T17:47:05 < Laurenceb> but that'd be hard to fix
2016-04-07T17:48:03 < Laurenceb> thanx for the link
2016-04-07T17:48:17 < dongs> http://www.st-japan.co.jp/web/en/catalog/tools/PF261598#
2016-04-07T17:48:18 < dongs> gerbers are her.
2016-04-07T17:48:19 < dongs> e
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2016-04-07T18:13:09 < kakimir> which one you need to butt in non-copper connectors: copper paste or aluminum paste?
2016-04-07T18:13:27 < kakimir> to keep it's contact good and avoid corrosion
2016-04-07T18:13:53 < kakimir> and which one you use for copper based connectors?
2016-04-07T18:26:04 < dongs> k updating my cubemx
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2016-04-07T18:36:20 < dongs> wat!
2016-04-07T18:36:25 < dongs> ST has some shit in  TFBGA
2016-04-07T18:36:27 < dongs> 0.8mm pitch
2016-04-07T18:38:38 < dongs> of course none of those parts are actually buyable lol
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2016-04-07T18:49:19 < Laurenceb> aluminium paste
2016-04-07T18:49:24 < Laurenceb> say what
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2016-04-07T18:52:35 < Laurenceb> uh oh http://i.imgur.com/e0HNCKm.png
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2016-04-07T18:55:57 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKTTdfbXBjTDNZQW8/view?usp=docslist_api
2016-04-07T18:56:19 < dongs> anyone ever order from avnet with backorder?
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2016-04-07T19:54:38 < qyx> mhm, how to provide a "floating earth" on the output of an inverter?
2016-04-07T19:54:49 < qyx> with RCD disconnect?
2016-04-07T19:54:54 < qyx> zyp related problem
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2016-04-07T19:58:31 < zyp> qyx, hmm?
2016-04-07T20:00:43 < qyx> I need to provide a PE connection on the DC/AC inverter thing
2016-04-07T20:00:51 < qyx> with ground fault detection
2016-04-07T20:01:28 < zyp> RCDs doesn't need PE, they measure leakage with a sum transformer
2016-04-07T20:01:41 < zyp> i.e. current going out on one wire that's not returning on the other
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2016-04-07T20:02:13 < qyx> yep, but that approach cannot be used if the output is from a galvanically isolated dc/ac converter
2016-04-07T20:02:21 < Rob235> I use OS X and Win10, I want to get into python, what should I use?
2016-04-07T20:02:30 < qyx> the current will always be equal on L and N
2016-04-07T20:02:56 < qyx> no current will ever flow through the PE
2016-04-07T20:03:06 < zyp> then leakage to PE is not possible :)
2016-04-07T20:03:30 < qyx> eh, I want to detect such PE faults
2016-04-07T20:03:41 < qyx> when the PE comes accidentally to N or L level
2016-04-07T20:04:00 < kakimir> still 3phase talks goin on?
2016-04-07T20:04:47 < qyx> I can force the PE to be in the middle of L and N and then detect if it drifts to either L or N
2016-04-07T20:04:55 < qyx> I think it is the same problem as PE presence detection
2016-04-07T20:04:58 < zyp> qyx, well, which grounding system are you targetting?
2016-04-07T20:05:08 < qyx> tn-s is the output
2016-04-07T20:05:26 < zyp> is this a single phase inverter?
2016-04-07T20:05:30 < qyx> yes
2016-04-07T20:05:32 < qyx> but meh
2016-04-07T20:05:42 < zyp> then just tie PE to N at the inverter
2016-04-07T20:05:44 < qyx> I can connect N to PE
2016-04-07T20:06:06 < kakimir> forcing PE sounds wrong
2016-04-07T20:06:20 < zyp> no, that's how TN-C-S works
2016-04-07T20:06:34 < qyx> that's true
2016-04-07T20:07:14 < qyx> if I did it in IT, it could be left floating probably
2016-04-07T20:07:15 < XTL> also evil :)
2016-04-07T20:07:23 < zyp> and the RCD can still detect leakages from N to PE, since current travelling in PE will cause an inbalance between L and N
2016-04-07T20:07:25 < qyx> and I could do that fault detection
2016-04-07T20:08:43 < zyp> RCDs doesn't care what level PE is at at all, they just check that there is a net sum of 0 between the live conductors
2016-04-07T20:08:56 < qyx> they are also using a fuse to connect N and PE
2016-04-07T20:09:08 < zyp> who is?
2016-04-07T20:09:25 < qyx> random internets people
2016-04-07T20:09:37 < qyx> er
2016-04-07T20:09:40 < qyx> maybe only on the dc side
2016-04-07T20:10:06 < zyp> the TN-C-S systems I saw when I worked as an electrician had PE and N hardwired together at the junction point
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2016-04-07T20:10:37 < qyx> I mean in the inverters, not in the distribution boxes
2016-04-07T20:12:02 < zyp> PEN conductor enter the building and is connected to grounding rail, from there N goes to master circuit breaker and each circuit also hooks up their PE conductor there
2016-04-07T20:13:32 < kakimir> I feel there is some electricity assburgering going on with this issue
2016-04-07T20:13:50 < kakimir> just fix it
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2016-04-07T20:15:33 < zyp> qyx, what sort of inverter are you making anyway?
2016-04-07T20:15:36 < zyp> for solar shit?
2016-04-07T20:18:36 < qyx> yes and no, 48V input without mppt
2016-04-07T20:18:56 < zyp> how are you going to hook it up?
2016-04-07T20:19:24 < qyx> it is a 100-200W micro inverter like those things you can buy for use in your car
2016-04-07T20:19:49 < qyx> probably will never be hooked to a real tn-c-s
2016-04-07T20:19:58 < zyp> is it even going to feed grounded stuff?
2016-04-07T20:20:20 < zyp> hmm, now I wonder how mine does it :p
2016-04-07T20:20:28 < zyp> I mean, the one I have
2016-04-07T20:20:30 < qyx> yes, most of thigs here do have grounded plugs
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2016-04-07T20:21:09 < karlp> qyx: isn't that just so that you can pluyg in something witha  regular plug? there's clearly no actual ground when you're in a car, no matter what shape the plug is
2016-04-07T20:21:10 < qyx> I feel like I can provide the RCD function
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2016-04-07T20:37:40 < inca> emeb: got the DFU working. the boot0 going high blocks user memory booting. I wonder if there is a way to enable a USB OTG DFU check on boot and still use the internal flash afterward.
2016-04-07T20:43:56 < emeb> inca: not to my knowledge.
2016-04-07T20:44:46 < emeb> only way to keep user control is to write your own bootloader.
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2016-04-07T20:49:01 < inca> there appear to be ways to invoke the system bootloader, though I don't see any way to escape it
2016-04-07T20:49:26 < inca> so then, I wonder if ST provides the ROM source code?
2016-04-07T20:50:08 < inca> or I guess I just need the DFU USB OTG driver, which may exist
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2016-04-07T21:00:18 < kakimir> is there a way to make remote applications that are X forwarded to look any less ugly?
2016-04-07T21:00:28 < kakimir> with xming
2016-04-07T21:01:50 < mitrax> "<dongs> yeah don't use lunix, use windows and rdp ffs"
2016-04-07T21:02:16 < kakimir> oh.. rdp?
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2016-04-07T21:03:17 < kakimir> I see the crypto is slowing this X forwarding down
2016-04-07T21:05:44 < mitrax> sounds unlikely
2016-04-07T21:05:54 < mitrax> it's probably something else
2016-04-07T21:06:11 < kakimir> maybe androidAP
2016-04-07T21:06:24 < kakimir> or 2003 laptop wifi
2016-04-07T21:06:49 < kakimir> so shitty you need to move AP away from it to make connection
2016-04-07T21:07:39 < mitrax> iirc the X protocol sucks ass when it's a on a high latency connection
2016-04-07T21:08:08 < mitrax> kinda like SMB
2016-04-07T21:08:45 < mitrax> so if you're transfering stuff at the same time or if the wifi is crowded that might be it
2016-04-07T21:10:39 < mitrax> last time i used X was 20 years ago so i shouldn't be commenting
2016-04-07T21:11:09 < mitrax> err X/X11
2016-04-07T21:11:52 < kakimir> if I just could open remote files locally
2016-04-07T21:12:12 < kakimir> http://xmodulo.com/how-to-speed-up-x11-forwarding-in-ssh.html
2016-04-07T21:13:54 < mitrax> where is that box running?
2016-04-07T21:13:56 < mitrax> the linux box i mean
2016-04-07T21:14:07 < kakimir> 5meters away
2016-04-07T21:14:23 < mitrax> install samba on it?
2016-04-07T21:16:47 < kakimir> yes maybe
2016-04-07T21:16:54 < kakimir> Laurenceb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXrDwtiqQs
2016-04-07T21:17:47 < Laurenceb> kakimir has been on /pol/ again :P
2016-04-07T21:18:54 < BrainDamage> use x2go loonixmir
2016-04-07T21:18:59 < Laurenceb> you are now banned from Scotland
2016-04-07T21:19:09 < kakimir> who is?
2016-04-07T21:19:15 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/ErBFbC1
2016-04-07T21:19:17 < Laurenceb> you are
2016-04-07T21:20:14 < kakimir> scotland is not a country
2016-04-07T21:21:37 < kakimir> it doesn't have it's own border control
2016-04-07T21:21:56 < Laurenceb> neither does anywhere in Europe now :P
2016-04-07T21:24:06 < kakimir> why should I use X2GO?
2016-04-07T21:24:11 < kakimir> is it good?
2016-04-07T21:25:43 < BrainDamage> it's nx renamed
2016-04-07T21:26:07 < kakimir> I don't know what you are talking about
2016-04-07T21:26:39 < BrainDamage> google
2016-04-07T21:27:09 < jpa-> is beaglebone gpio control total shit, or is there some sane way to do simple things?
2016-04-07T21:27:17 < jpa-> such as, enable pull-up?
2016-04-07T21:29:15 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/eSItRVj
2016-04-07T21:29:19 < Laurenceb> troll spotted
2016-04-07T21:30:19 < kakimir> I have to make assumption that nx protocol rules over basic X forwarding
2016-04-07T21:30:36 < jpa-> anything rules over basic X forwarding
2016-04-07T21:30:59 < jpa-> even command line on teletype terminal over 300bps modem is 100x faster
2016-04-07T21:31:00 < kakimir> we used it in school
2016-04-07T21:31:29 < kakimir> because m$ forced windows desktops
2016-04-07T21:32:04 < kakimir> xming and x forwarding
2016-04-07T21:32:09 < kakimir> did works just fine
2016-04-07T21:32:38 < zyp> I remember running xilinx ISE over x forwarding once, seemed to work fairly well as far as I can remember
2016-04-07T21:33:04 < qyx> once I did all mz work over x forwarding over !gbps
2016-04-07T21:33:11 < qyx> uhm
2016-04-07T21:33:43 < kakimir> school had brand new work terminals and gigabits at least
2016-04-07T21:36:41 < saph0> kakimir: what's wrong with nfs ?
2016-04-07T21:37:05 < kakimir> I don't like
2016-04-07T21:37:19 < kakimir> I have never used one
2016-04-07T21:37:23 < kakimir> *set up
2016-04-07T21:38:17 < zyp> saph0, can you do proper authentication with nfs now?
2016-04-07T21:38:45 < saph0> zyp : i haven't used nfs for years tbh
2016-04-07T21:38:49 < BrainDamage> x forwarding is pretty dumb
2016-04-07T21:38:55 < saph0> had no need .. what counts as proper
2016-04-07T21:39:02 < saph0> kerberos was always an option
2016-04-07T21:39:15 < BrainDamage> the x protocol itself is kinda meh, it has lot of unnecessary back and forth comm
2016-04-07T21:39:23 < BrainDamage> which is why it's latency sensitive
2016-04-07T21:39:27 < saph0> x fdw is pointless for simple remote FS access
2016-04-07T21:39:40 < BrainDamage> yeah
2016-04-07T21:39:47 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/9EvTWDs.gifv
2016-04-07T21:40:01 < saph0> NFS is seamless once it's running
2016-04-07T21:40:12 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRLfNwdLyM he-co of the day
2016-04-07T21:40:16 < BrainDamage> tools like vnc, nx, etc all run delta compression on the frames, and generally discard the stupid stuff like the vector drawing primitives
2016-04-07T21:40:26 < BrainDamage> and turn them into raster
2016-04-07T21:40:44 < BrainDamage> nfs is a pain to setup howrever
2016-04-07T21:40:55 < BrainDamage> 5-6 services for a simple login ...
2016-04-07T21:41:03 < saph0> BrainDamage: on some linux distros that's true ..
2016-04-07T21:41:22 < saph0> the more 'modern' linux dists like ubuntu for e.g.
2016-04-07T21:41:33 < zyp> BrainDamage, uh, just install the nfs (meta)package and edit /etc/exports
2016-04-07T21:41:37 < zyp> that's all I've ever done
2016-04-07T21:41:44 < saph0> i was using slackware back when i last used NFS
2016-04-07T21:41:51 < BrainDamage> zyp: as saph0 said, depends on the distro
2016-04-07T21:42:02 < saph0> just enable RPC on the server end and edit a couple lines in the fstab / mtab as i recall
2016-04-07T21:42:06 < zyp> if it's harder, you're using the wrong distro :)
2016-04-07T21:42:16 < saph0> zyp: exactly :)
2016-04-07T21:42:28 < BrainDamage> you don't really get a choice on third party servers
2016-04-07T21:43:34 < saph0> nope 3rd party server would be tricky, unless they already support NFS and you have correct ACLs
2016-04-07T21:43:39 < zyp> what sort of third party server?
2016-04-07T21:44:43 < BrainDamage> i've had to setup once on a centos machine
2016-04-07T21:44:46 < BrainDamage> never again
2016-04-07T21:44:49 < saph0> zyp: right add a line per mount in /etc/exports that's the one
2016-04-07T21:46:30 < saph0> i believe SSHFS may be the way to go for low latency and security
2016-04-07T21:46:36 < saph0> tho i've never set it up myself
2016-04-07T21:46:59 < zyp> doesn't sound very good for performance though
2016-04-07T21:47:12 < BrainDamage> you can get high bandwith too
2016-04-07T21:47:28 < BrainDamage> if the machine has AES-NI, encryption is not the bottleneck
2016-04-07T21:48:02 < BrainDamage> howrever ssh by default choses a fixed tcp frame - in frame which is not optimized for every case
2016-04-07T21:48:19 < BrainDamage> there's a patch to fix it from third party, if you trust it
2016-04-07T21:48:33 < zyp> what is «high» to you?
2016-04-07T21:48:41 < BrainDamage> full gigabit link
2016-04-07T21:49:01 < zyp> I can push a couple hundred megabytes per second through my nfs setup
2016-04-07T21:49:23 < saph0> zyp: niiice
2016-04-07T21:49:53 < BrainDamage> i'd be bottlenecked by the network card past the gbit mark, so it's ok to me
2016-04-07T21:50:29 < kakimir> x2go definitelly usable
2016-04-07T21:50:42 < zyp> I got tired of that and got some 10Gb gear :p
2016-04-07T21:52:02 < kakimir> what you need to push around?
2016-04-07T21:52:39 < kakimir> you can share folders with x2go
2016-04-07T21:52:42 < saph0> hey if you can afford it why not .. i'm still a 100baseT switch from last century :)
2016-04-07T21:53:22 < saph0> zyp: is that you'r home network ?
2016-04-07T21:54:15 < kakimir> and x2go seems to continue where you left it
2016-04-07T21:54:15 < zyp> saph0, yes
2016-04-07T21:54:21 < kakimir> and doesn't fuk it up
2016-04-07T21:54:57 < Sync> dongs: chinacloner chips arrived
2016-04-07T21:55:01 < zyp> saph0, 10gbase-sr gear is cheap, secondhand NICs from ebay costs nothing
2016-04-07T21:55:09 < saph0> kakimir: it's just a wee bit inelegant for simple file xfer is all ..
2016-04-07T21:55:23 < kakimir> I need to work on lunix code
2016-04-07T21:55:29 < kakimir> and compile and shiet
2016-04-07T21:56:07 < saph0> it's a repo server on the other end ?
2016-04-07T21:56:20 < saph0> zyp: gonna check that out, thanx
2016-04-07T21:57:19 < kakimir> zyp: are you like using that for you personal stuff only?
2016-04-07T21:57:51 < zyp> cheap switches are harder to come by, but one of my friends' employers were throwing away some gear last year
2016-04-07T21:57:52 < Sync> I switched to 10G as well
2016-04-07T21:57:55 < Sync> at least for my nas
2016-04-07T21:58:03 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/nmouc.JPG <- so I got this cute little switch cluster
2016-04-07T21:58:49 < kakimir> I always get a bit jelly when peep tell about stuff their employer or neighbor door company just throws away
2016-04-07T21:58:56 < zyp> worked fine in old apartment, but when I moved I decided it were too noisy for new apartment, since I can't hide it away like that
2016-04-07T21:59:00 < saph0> 18.50$ for a 10gig ether NIC , that's waay cheaper than i expected
2016-04-07T21:59:11 < Sync> nortel shiet
2016-04-07T21:59:18 < zyp> so I picked up the mikrotic crs210 which got two 10g ports
2016-04-07T21:59:39 < zyp> that's enough to hook my workstation and server on 10g to the rest of my network
2016-04-07T21:59:40 < Sync> yup, I got one of those aswell
2016-04-07T22:00:45 < saph0> zyp: nice bit of nortel kit there dood ..
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2016-04-07T22:01:44 < zyp> yeah, just too noisy to run in the middle of my apartment :)
2016-04-07T22:02:10 < saph0> zyp: fan noise was keep you awake @ night ?
2016-04-07T22:03:29 < zyp> oh, I could probably sleep to it pretty well, it'd just be annoying as fuck when I'm awake
2016-04-07T22:04:32 < kakimir> x2go is really good
2016-04-07T22:06:32 < kakimir> even really old shiet as a server
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2016-04-07T22:12:32 < saph0> zyp: i've always found a constant fan noise is easy to sleep with , it's the on/off speed changes that get my attention
2016-04-07T22:15:05 < saph0> and when you switch to a silent cooling system the next perceptible noise is the hdd doing housekeeping at 3am ..
2016-04-07T22:15:09 < saph0> it never ends
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2016-04-07T22:17:21 < saph0> kakimir: is x2go opensrc ?
2016-04-07T22:17:54 < zyp> saph0, switch to ssds? :)
2016-04-07T22:18:10 < zyp> they are coming down in price pretty well now
2016-04-07T22:18:20 < kakimir> saph0: I don't know
2016-04-07T22:18:22 < saph0> heh , then the transformer becomes audible .. it never ever ends
2016-04-07T22:18:27 < kakimir> should I care?
2016-04-07T22:18:45 < kakimir> amount of crap it doesn't give is ultimate
2016-04-07T22:18:53 < kakimir> must be closed source
2016-04-07T22:18:57 < saph0> kakimir: nope, you made me curious to try it out is all
2016-04-07T22:19:17 < zyp> I can get a 480GB SSD for less than I paid for my 180GB SSD a few years ago
2016-04-07T22:19:44 < BrainDamage> x2go is sores'ed
2016-04-07T22:19:47 < saph0> dont-give-a-crap-ware .. sounds liek my kind of ware :)
2016-04-07T22:20:18 < zyp> I'm kinda inclined to get one and ditch the 2TB HDD I've also got in my workstation for shit that won't fit on the SSD but I still want to keep locally
2016-04-07T22:20:53 < zyp> move everything to the new SSD and then use the old SSD for windows dualboot
2016-04-07T22:21:05 < saph0> zyp: 125$ for 480gb .. that's sup[er cheap !
2016-04-07T22:21:08 < zyp> right now I've got a small windows partition on the HDD
2016-04-07T22:21:17 < zyp> which one are you looking at?
2016-04-07T22:21:26 < ReadError> samsung or bust
2016-04-07T22:21:28 < zyp> I'm looking at the Intel 535 series
2016-04-07T22:21:32 < saph0> sandisk ultra 2
2016-04-07T22:21:36 < zyp> idk, I'm kinda partial to Intel
2016-04-07T22:21:50 < ReadError> ya intel is solid
2016-04-07T22:21:52 < saph0> sandisk are reputable aren;t they ?
2016-04-07T22:21:53 < ReadError> i put it up there with samsung
2016-04-07T22:21:57 < zyp> oh, there's an Intel 540 too
2016-04-07T22:21:59 < zyp> it's even cheaper
2016-04-07T22:22:12 < saph0> sandata i shoudl say
2016-04-07T22:22:21 < ReadError> saph0 ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2016-04-07T22:22:37 < zyp> I think the old 180GB is 510 or 520
2016-04-07T22:22:47 < ReadError> look at intel or samsung saph0
2016-04-07T22:22:52 < ReadError> they are solid as hell
2016-04-07T22:22:57 < ReadError> good rep
2016-04-07T22:23:14 < zyp> ah, it's 520
2016-04-07T22:23:36 < saph0> i am .. 139$ for a intel 525/ 480gb .. very nice
2016-04-07T22:23:50 < saph0> *535 series
2016-04-07T22:27:40 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKQmU4dDRILWJ3YjQ/view?usp=sharing I hope I could do something to that DPI
2016-04-07T22:27:58 < kakimir> or is it just lunix
2016-04-07T22:27:59 < zyp> hmm, 540 looks faster and less power consumption than 535
2016-04-07T22:28:11 < zyp> but my store still have them a bit cheaper than 535
2016-04-07T22:28:26 < zyp> probably just temporarily
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2016-04-07T22:32:50 < saph0> zyp: what's your store ?
2016-04-07T22:33:22 < saph0> they do 1TB in 540 series also
2016-04-07T22:33:27 < zyp> those 3TB seagate drives that are failing all the time
2016-04-07T22:33:41 < zyp> if you're asking about my server :)
2016-04-07T22:34:44 < zyp> I've got 16 of those in a raidz3
2016-04-07T22:34:55 < zyp> can do something like 800MB/s read and write locally
2016-04-07T22:35:14 < ReadError> yea fuck seagate
2016-04-07T22:35:21 < ReadError> they are dead to me
2016-04-07T22:35:56 < zyp> idk, the 1.5TB drives I had before were fine
2016-04-07T22:36:16 < zyp> and the 3TB drives work pretty well too, until they die
2016-04-07T22:36:16 < ReadError> just look at the backblaze failure reports
2016-04-07T22:36:26 < ReadError> "until they die"
2016-04-07T22:36:27 < zyp> I have
2016-04-07T22:36:56 < ReadError> if I cant get 5 years out of a drive, I am not pleased
2016-04-07T22:37:01 < zyp> well, they are sitting in a raidz3, I'm honestly not very concerned about a drive dying once in a while
2016-04-07T22:37:02 < ReadError> and random failures are the worst
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2016-04-07T22:37:22 < ReadError> vs sorta knowing the drive is about to kick it
2016-04-07T22:37:39 < saph0> i called seagate in california from england in the 90s when that was *expensive* , they calle me back with jumper setting info for a drive i bought 2nd hand ..
2016-04-07T22:38:12 < zyp> and I live in norway, consumer protection laws here says that shit like that is supposed to last for five years, and I'm entitled to a free replacement or refund if it dies before that
2016-04-07T22:38:36 < ReadError> for spinny disk, I like the WD RE series
2016-04-07T22:38:56 < saph0> wow, so if i collect broken drives, fly to norway , forge a receipt can i get them replaced for new ?
2016-04-07T22:39:02 < ReadError> made for reliability
2016-04-07T22:39:06 < ReadError> and decently quick
2016-04-07T22:39:22 < zyp> saph0, sure, if you're good enough at scamming
2016-04-07T22:39:46 < ReadError> did yall see the synology 'hack' stuff
2016-04-07T22:40:02 < ReadError> you can spin up synology DSM on any hardware
2016-04-07T22:40:03 < zyp> the store I get them at are keeping track of the serial numbers of the ones they sell
2016-04-07T22:40:54 < ReadError> most the time they will accept the mfg date
2016-04-07T22:41:02 < ReadError> for warranty purposes
2016-04-07T22:42:24 < ReadError> I got a pretty killer deal on some 3TB WD Red drives a bit back
2016-04-07T22:42:26 < zyp> forging a receipt would be kinda hard when the order number doesn't have a matching record in their db :p
2016-04-07T22:42:29 < ReadError> something like 75$ a pop
2016-04-07T22:42:37 < ReadError> grabbed 4 of them
2016-04-07T22:42:57 < zyp> I'm kinda biased against WD
2016-04-07T22:43:32 < zyp> WD green is utter trash, and I'm not too happy with the single WD black I have either
2016-04-07T22:43:53 < zyp> it seems a lot more noisy than my other drives
2016-04-07T22:45:05 < ReadError> yea well green was/is a shitty line
2016-04-07T22:45:09 < zyp> haven't tried WD red, they're a bit more expensive and I don't see the point in paying extra
2016-04-07T22:45:19 < ReadError> reds just have some extra stuff for NAS
2016-04-07T22:45:25 < ReadError> firmware
2016-04-07T22:45:45 < zyp> sure they have, but what real benefit does that have?
2016-04-07T22:47:13 < zyp> IIRC the main difference is that they've got a shorter timeout on self correction, so the drive would rather time out than risk getting kicked out of the raid for not responding in time
2016-04-07T22:47:45 < zyp> which is mostly an issue with hardware raid
2016-04-07T22:47:54 < zyp> and hardware raid is pretty pointless nowadays
2016-04-07T22:47:55 < ReadError> im not sure
2016-04-07T22:48:01 < ReadError> I just got them because the price was nice
2016-04-07T22:48:10 < zyp> sure
2016-04-07T22:48:38 < ReadError> http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=580
2016-04-07T22:48:44 < ReadError> those ive been super happy with
2016-04-07T22:49:08 < zyp> looks expensive
2016-04-07T22:49:30 < zyp> idk, I'm not in the market for harddrives now, so I don't really care
2016-04-07T22:49:59 < ReadError> paid $150 for 2x 2TB in 2014
2016-04-07T22:50:25 < zyp> I've still got a couple of years left of the 5 year period on the drives I currently have, and I'm not going to fill them up any time soon either
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2016-04-07T22:53:56 < ReadError> ya true once you have enough you dont have to worry about it for a while
2016-04-07T22:54:22 < ReadError> I dont collect porn or anything so I dont need to keep expanding
2016-04-07T22:54:51 < zyp> they're 33% full right now, they'll probably be over five years old before I hit 50%
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2016-04-07T22:55:53 < zyp> hmm
2016-04-07T22:56:39 < zyp> idk about collecting porn, I don't tend to delete shit I've downloaded
2016-04-07T22:57:20 < zyp> so it's sort of collecting, I guess
2016-04-07T22:57:32 < zyp> but I'm not downloading it to collect it, I'm just downloading it to watch it
2016-04-07T22:58:14 < zyp> oh, heh
2016-04-07T22:58:27 < ReadError> you would be surprised
2016-04-07T22:58:34 < ReadError> a lot of people collect porn
2016-04-07T22:58:34 < zyp> I've actually got 1.1TB of porn
2016-04-07T22:58:38 < ReadError> i dont get it
2016-04-07T22:58:41 < zyp> is that a lot?
2016-04-07T22:58:44 < zyp> idk
2016-04-07T22:59:07 < ReadError> heh yea thats a decent bit, ive heard of much larger collections
2016-04-07T22:59:14 < mitrax> i download porn but i don't watch it
2016-04-07T22:59:42 < mitrax> all those files with kinky names turn me on...
2016-04-07T23:01:36 < zyp> hmm, looks like this shit is mostly 2-6GB per movie
2016-04-07T23:02:41 < ReadError> yea with bluray stuff and 4k becomming more popular
2016-04-07T23:02:53 < ReadError> I can see the need to grow out eventually
2016-04-07T23:02:59 < zyp> well, of course
2016-04-07T23:03:27 < zyp> there's no point in downloading porn if it's not proper HD, might as well just stream it
2016-04-07T23:04:48 < ReadError> wondering how the whole VR porn thing is going to do
2016-04-07T23:04:59 < ReadError> now that oculus is consumer edition'd
2016-04-07T23:05:07 < ReadError> and sony coming out with one
2016-04-07T23:05:09 < zyp> haha
2016-04-07T23:05:11 < ReadError> HTC vive
2016-04-07T23:05:39 < zyp> yeah, I've got some friends that are into VR shit
2016-04-07T23:05:50 < ReadError> not tried the new ones
2016-04-07T23:05:54 < ReadError> DK2 was pretty shitty
2016-04-07T23:05:56 < zyp> one guy got the oculus CV1 the other day
2016-04-07T23:06:00 < ReadError> bad screendoor
2016-04-07T23:06:14 < ReadError> res kinda sucked
2016-04-07T23:06:16 < zyp> DK2 was better than DK1
2016-04-07T23:06:19 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-07T23:06:27 < ReadError> but DK2 wasnt usable for me anyways
2016-04-07T23:06:42 < zyp> this guy now has both DK1, DK2 and CV1
2016-04-07T23:06:55 < ReadError> curious about the vive
2016-04-07T23:07:06 < ReadError> its pretty $$$, 800USD I think
2016-04-07T23:07:07 < zyp> I know somebody who ordered that as well
2016-04-07T23:07:13 < ReadError> but comes w/ the cameras and controller stuff
2016-04-07T23:07:23 < zyp> and another guy got this samsung thing
2016-04-07T23:07:35 < zyp> gear vr
2016-04-07T23:07:52 < ReadError> the oculus shit is pretty sketchy though
2016-04-07T23:07:56 < ReadError> always on
2016-04-07T23:08:06 < ReadError> camera/audio phonehome stuff
2016-04-07T23:08:13 < zyp> haha
2016-04-07T23:08:26 < zyp> idk, haven't looked that much into it
2016-04-07T23:08:32 < ReadError> read somethin about it
2016-04-07T23:08:39 < ReadError> really crazy
2016-04-07T23:09:06 < zyp> don't believe all you read ;)
2016-04-07T23:10:10 < ReadError> yea true
2016-04-07T23:10:19 < ReadError> im not a real big tinfoil hat guy
2016-04-07T23:10:27 < ReadError> but I just dont see the need for that
2016-04-07T23:10:37 < zyp> for what?
2016-04-07T23:10:53 < ReadError> always connected
2016-04-07T23:11:08 < zyp> to what?
2016-04-07T23:11:37 < ReadError> im not sure what its connected to exactly
2016-04-07T23:11:46 < ReadError> just saw an article in passing
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2016-04-07T23:26:32 < ReadMobl> https://reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/4crsmo/oculuss_services_are_always_on_and_you_should_be/
2016-04-07T23:38:12 < kakimir> is it botnet wars?
2016-04-07T23:40:37 < mitrax> what is?
2016-04-07T23:40:59 < kakimir> comming
2016-04-07T23:41:55  * mitrax gives up
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2016-04-07T23:50:38 < karlp> are there any tricks to getting MCO output?
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2016-04-07T23:52:06 < qyx> no
2016-04-07T23:53:56 < zyp> set pin to AF, set AF mux to MCO, enable MCO in RCC
2016-04-07T23:55:43 < kakimir> is there macro for linenumber?
2016-04-07T23:55:47 < kakimir> in C
2016-04-07T23:56:03 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-07T23:56:04 < mitrax> __LINE__
2016-04-07T23:56:11 < kakimir> __LINE__
2016-04-07T23:56:21 < kakimir> this makes my debuggings a bit easier
2016-04-07T23:56:36 < zyp> karlp, here's what I got for f4: http://paste.jvnv.net/view/qjbcY
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2016-04-08T00:07:02 < karlp> yeah, didn't think there should be anythign special, trying to look at MCO on an existing locm3 example, not working, will poke it a bit more.
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2016-04-08T00:33:53 < karlp> mco sysclok is weird: http://imgur.com/a/q2prw
2016-04-08T00:34:04 < karlp> was missing the output speed to high for sysclk output it seemed
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2016-04-08T00:34:57 < mitrax> "OrangeVolAuVent"? wtf
2016-04-08T00:37:17 < mitrax> where did that come from? :)
2016-04-08T00:42:51 < zyp> dongs, did you have time to ask about AC/DC shit yet?
2016-04-08T00:48:24 < mitrax> zyp: the Morsun one with the few external parts won't do?
2016-04-08T00:50:18 < zyp> it might do, but I'd like to check if there's other options as well
2016-04-08T00:50:28 < mitrax> sure, just curious
2016-04-08T00:52:36 < mitrax> came across that brand when i was looking for DC/DC converters the other day, according to a friend of mine Morsun has been around for a long time but i they weren't on mouser etc.
2016-04-08T00:52:50 < mitrax> err -i
2016-04-08T00:53:59 < mitrax> meanwell has some not too expensive ones for pcb but they're fucking huge
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2016-04-08T00:54:43 < zyp> I need it to be small
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2016-04-08T00:55:56 < zyp> it'll be sitting in between two pcbs that are stacked with 18mm between them
2016-04-08T00:56:21 < zyp> and preferably it should not hit the top pcb :)
2016-04-08T00:56:25 < mitrax> oh, those boards :)
2016-04-08T00:56:38 < mitrax> what did you end up using to connect them together?
2016-04-08T00:56:47 < zyp> not decided
2016-04-08T00:57:16 < zyp> I'm also not sure I can fit everything in two modules width
2016-04-08T00:57:30 < zyp> dunno
2016-04-08T00:58:18 < mitrax> imo $5-6 is reasonnable, everything below that price is probably crap
2016-04-08T00:59:13 < zyp> two modules width will give me around 30mm, and I'll probably not have more than 50mm in the other dimension
2016-04-08T01:00:05 < zyp> and I also want to fit a couple of relays in this area, and an energy meter circuit which would require its own isolated DC DC supply
2016-04-08T01:00:15 < Amperture> minimum 1000 quant
2016-04-08T01:00:18 < Amperture> err
2016-04-08T01:00:19 < Amperture> 100
2016-04-08T01:00:29 < zyp> it seems a bit optimistic to be able to fit all that :)
2016-04-08T01:03:39 < zyp> http://www.xppower.com/Portals/0/pdfs/SF_ECE05-10.pdf <- I still think this looks like the best fit
2016-04-08T01:04:04 < zyp> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xp-power/ECE05US12/1470-1110-ND/4487491
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2016-04-08T01:10:41 < karlp> getting relays, the meter, and the mains power supply in 2 units will be neat :)
2016-04-08T01:10:56 < karlp> were you doing three phase metering or one?
2016-04-08T01:11:37 < zyp> kinda want to do either
2016-04-08T01:11:50 < karlp> just thinkign of all the extra space :)
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2016-04-08T01:12:09 < karlp> our mains meter at work is two units wide for three phases, and it's the narrowest three phase meter we know of.
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2016-04-08T01:12:30 < karlp> getting relays in there too, and your mains to dc supply sounds... challenging.
2016-04-08T01:12:35 < zyp> external transformers?
2016-04-08T01:12:45 < karlp> yeah, CTs,
2016-04-08T01:13:21 < zyp> ohsix, I'm putting it in a din rail enclosure
2016-04-08T01:13:51 < zyp> and I don't want to make it super big
2016-04-08T01:14:28 < zyp> karlp, well, number of connections I can fit might be the limitation
2016-04-08T01:14:56 < karlp> we cheated and put a capacitive ac-dc supply (non isolated) for the mains meter part, and on the second riser board we get external dc provided in by a cable with the rs485 bus for the isolated side.
2016-04-08T01:16:29 < zyp> three phase plus neutral is four conductors, three CTs are another six conductors
2016-04-08T01:16:45 < zyp> bottom board in a two module enclosure can only fit 12 terminals
2016-04-08T01:18:19 < karlp> yup :)
2016-04-08T01:19:03 < karlp> ohsix: well, I know that this is a standalone device, ours at work is a slave, so getting an other cable in is fine.
2016-04-08T01:19:23 < karlp> getting enough power for everything zyp might want out of a cap/resistive supply might be a bit of a struggle
2016-04-08T01:20:04 < zyp> not strictly standalone, but should be standalone capable :)
2016-04-08T01:20:28 < zyp> I've considered making a different variant of the bottom board that just takes DC in
2016-04-08T01:20:46 < zyp> but I don't think that would be super useful
2016-04-08T01:22:38 < zyp> karlp, so, which chips are the shit for three phase metering?
2016-04-08T01:22:50 < karlp> not the ADE7668 :)
2016-04-08T01:23:19 < karlp> I'm sur ethey all work though really.
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2016-04-08T01:23:37 < karlp> they've all got slightly different features and tricks,
2016-04-08T01:23:49 < karlp> ade7668 has a super shitty calibration method if you need to.
2016-04-08T01:24:10 < karlp> 7758 sorry
2016-04-08T01:25:01 < zyp> I'd like something that supports being hooked up both as single phase, three phase delta and three phase wye
2016-04-08T01:25:08 < zyp> STPMC1 seems to support that
2016-04-08T01:27:19 < karlp> yeah, any of the three phase ones support that.
2016-04-08T01:29:37 < zyp> hmm, that's a single chip solution, STPMC1 would be a four chip solution since it needs external ADCs
2016-04-08T01:29:59 < karlp> yeah, I don't really know why would ever the multichip solutions
2016-04-08T01:30:07 < karlp> there's plenty of integrated single chip three phase meters.
2016-04-08T01:30:26 < karlp> depends how much fine grained analysis you want I guess.
2016-04-08T01:30:44 < karlp> like, "yeah, I want all the raw adc data too, to do my own magic sauce stuff"
2016-04-08T01:31:01 < karlp> fuck that, we just want the kwh and freq and per phase amps/volts/pf shits
2016-04-08T01:32:43 < zyp> haha
2016-04-08T01:32:55 < zyp> well, no, I'm not gonna touch the signals :p
2016-04-08T01:36:14 < zyp> but I guess it could be easier to route
2016-04-08T01:36:35 < Sync> karlp: I wonder why none of the AD shits expose the raw signals
2016-04-08T01:36:38 < Sync> that would be nice
2016-04-08T01:37:21 < zyp> STPMC1 uses some nice multiplexed signalling, so there's a common clock to the ADCs and a single signal from each
2016-04-08T01:37:54 < zyp> so there's four lines instead of ten
2016-04-08T01:38:27 < zyp> I guess I could even run them through an isolated buffer and put the master chip in the isolated power domain along with the MCU
2016-04-08T01:39:16 < Sync> yeah but why, you can just isolate the spi from the thing
2016-04-08T01:40:03 < zyp> true
2016-04-08T01:42:12 < karlp> Sync: because most people buying a power meter chip don't _want_ the raw signals?
2016-04-08T01:42:19 < kakimir> movie recommends?
2016-04-08T01:42:43 < karlp> if you want them, you don't need a power meter chip, you just measure them yourself.
2016-04-08T01:44:05 < Sync> yeah, well
2016-04-08T01:44:37 < karlp> kakimir: watch pontypool and tell me whether I should
2016-04-08T01:44:56 < kakimir> not.exe
2016-04-08T02:12:14 < Laurenceb_> NigComSat-1, a Nigerian satellite ordered and built in China in 2004, was Nigeria's second satellite and Africa's first communication satellite
2016-04-08T02:12:20 < Laurenceb_>  /pol/ teir
2016-04-08T02:13:58 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/xq1ndmn
2016-04-08T02:15:58 < Laurenceb_> OHMRAGE
2016-04-08T02:16:33 < BrainDamage> wattage
2016-04-08T02:17:24 < zyp> crt, what do you want to replace it with? tension?
2016-04-08T02:17:54 < zyp> I think that would be the literal translation of the norwegian word for voltage
2016-04-08T02:18:03 < BrainDamage> same for italian
2016-04-08T02:18:14 < zyp> so it's just english that's stupid
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2016-04-08T02:21:33 < Strogg> 'lo 'lo
2016-04-08T02:21:44 < karlp> spenna og straum zyp?
2016-04-08T02:22:18 < karlp> BrainDamage: wasn't volta italian?
2016-04-08T02:22:31 < zyp> karlp, spenning og strøm
2016-04-08T02:22:38 < karlp> close enough.
2016-04-08T02:23:20 < BrainDamage> karlp: i live in his hometown
2016-04-08T02:23:53 < BrainDamage> i think i have a pic of the grave somewhere
2016-04-08T02:24:25 < Laurenceb_> moar pol teir material http://imgur.com/HtXgTS5
2016-04-08T02:25:24 < karlp> learning icelandic words for technical things has been a pain in the arse.
2016-04-08T02:26:19 < kakimir> why?
2016-04-08T02:34:28 < BrainDamage> karlp: https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=_20160408_013033.JPG sorry for weird format, it was a group photo and i cropped out my friends
2016-04-08T02:34:57 < karlp> needs login sorry :(
2016-04-08T02:35:16 < BrainDamage> oh, ops
2016-04-08T02:35:29 < BrainDamage> https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8zjwkez65x9y8t/_20160408_013033.JPG?dl=0
2016-04-08T02:35:31 < BrainDamage> better?
2016-04-08T02:35:37 < kakimir> movi recommnds?
2016-04-08T02:35:51 < BrainDamage> ask 4chan
2016-04-08T02:36:02 < BrainDamage> volta's grave
2016-04-08T02:36:48 < BrainDamage> that's galvani
2016-04-08T02:37:05 < BrainDamage> he also liked to probe frog legs
2016-04-08T02:37:07 < karlp> pretty serious looking grave
2016-04-08T02:37:11 < BrainDamage> volta invented the battery
2016-04-08T02:37:17 < karlp> or mausoleum I suppose
2016-04-08T02:37:20 < karlp> or is it a crypt?
2016-04-08T02:38:08 < BrainDamage> it's a crypt, there's plaques from visitors from all over the world giving homage on the inside
2016-04-08T02:39:10 < BrainDamage> the guy was quite rich too, he owns a giant villa in the proximity, 2 labs in the town, one of which was hosted on a tower on the roman periferial defence wall
2016-04-08T02:39:44 < Strogg> so, I'm playing around with this STM32F373, and I've got some code that compiles.. I can jtag it into the mcu, and it _seems_ to work a little bit.  here's the deal, I have a infinite forloop and is supposed to just turn two leds on and off, but the for loop doesn't seem to loop.
2016-04-08T02:39:59 < Strogg> the led turns on, but then nothing else happens
2016-04-08T02:41:01 < emeb> pastebin ur codez
2016-04-08T02:41:25 < Strogg> http://paste.debian.net/426353/
2016-04-08T02:41:52 < Strogg> I switched the for loop to a while loop, just because I"m doubting everything now.. hehe same effect
2016-04-08T02:42:36 < Strogg> right now, it stops with WD1 turned on.. just sitting there, and WD0 is off
2016-04-08T02:42:49 < Strogg> I put a scope on the lines too, just to make sure they weren't blinking and I couldn't see it
2016-04-08T02:42:54 < karlp> Strogg: I bet it's just blinking too fast for you too see,
2016-04-08T02:42:57 < karlp> oh, well, ok then :)
2016-04-08T02:43:03 < Strogg> hehe
2016-04-08T02:43:17 < karlp> um
2016-04-08T02:43:21 < karlp> do you have a systick handler?
2016-04-08T02:43:23 < Strogg> I thought that might be the case, but if it was, both should "appear" on, no?
2016-04-08T02:43:32 < karlp> does systick config turn on the interrupt or anything?
2016-04-08T02:43:37 < Strogg> hrmmmm.. hrmmm
2016-04-08T02:43:50 < Strogg> there was one in there, but I deleted it since I'm not using it.  hrmm
2016-04-08T02:43:57 < emeb> yeah - without a systick handler you'll be stuck in the default handler
2016-04-08T02:43:57 < Strogg> I bet the interrupt is still setup though.
2016-04-08T02:44:08 < Strogg> well damn.
2016-04-08T02:44:09 < emeb> just comment out the systick setup
2016-04-08T02:44:59 < Strogg> Hah!
2016-04-08T02:45:03 < Strogg> there we go.  thanks! :)
2016-04-08T02:45:45 < Strogg> I was seriously having one of those moments where it's like "err.. how can looping not work??? that makes no sense."
2016-04-08T02:46:15 < emeb> when things go funky I always pull up gdb and see where it's stuck
2016-04-08T02:46:40 < emeb> 9 times out of 10 it's in the default handler due to an IRQ or exception I didn't expect
2016-04-08T02:46:44 < Strogg> yeahh I haven't gotten gdb up running with it yet.  just managed to get openocd to program the chip
2016-04-08T02:46:58 < Strogg> turning on the led was sort of my hello world. :)
2016-04-08T02:47:24 < emeb> that
2016-04-08T02:47:53 < Strogg> so, st-util opens a port on 4242.. I just give that to gdb then?
2016-04-08T02:47:55 < Strogg> hrmmmm cool
2016-04-08T02:47:57  * Strogg tries
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2016-04-08T02:49:02 < Strogg> cooool.  right on, thanks guys!
2016-04-08T02:49:09 < Strogg> I'm ready to rock now
2016-04-08T02:49:41 < ds2> hmmmm
2016-04-08T02:56:25 < ReadError> dont feed the pumper ohsix
2016-04-08T02:56:39 < ReadError> u
2016-04-08T02:58:49 < zyp> karlp, what do you think about this thing? https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/industries/metering-energy-measurement/MAX78615%2BPPM.html
2016-04-08T03:00:19 < zyp> transformers carry both power and data, so it replaces the need for both the isolated DC/DC and the SPI isolator
2016-04-08T03:04:20 < karlp> zyp: the dude at work who was looking at upgrades to our device was looking at some maxim parts as being "really nice"
2016-04-08T03:04:30 < karlp> I'm goign to bed though, will look at that tomorrow daytime
2016-04-08T03:04:45 < zyp> np, going to bed myself soon
2016-04-08T03:05:00 < zyp> weren't even expecting you to answer tonight
2016-04-08T03:05:17 < zyp> this shit doesn't look too expensive on digikey
2016-04-08T03:05:40 < zyp> and they even have a $50 evalboard, unlike the $500 evalboards all the others have
2016-04-08T03:06:10 < zyp> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/maxim-integrated/MAXREFDES14%23/MAXREFDES14%23-ND/4866381
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2016-04-08T03:11:38 < Thorn> found replacement for Dave https://www.youtube.com/user/devttys0/videos
2016-04-08T03:13:36 < Thorn> his free equipment shelf collapsed
2016-04-08T03:13:43 < Thorn> they're still digging him out
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2016-04-08T03:21:33 < englishman> can i safely talk about keil c51
2016-04-08T03:27:28 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-08T03:27:36 < Laurenceb_> getting slowly fatter
2016-04-08T03:28:08 < Laurenceb_> I have correct BMI, but body fat in wrong places :-S
2016-04-08T03:28:25 < Laurenceb_> need more excersize
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2016-04-08T03:29:14 < Laurenceb_> BMI is weird, not sure if i trust it
2016-04-08T03:29:36 < Laurenceb_> it seems to be really hard to be underweight as its nonlinear in the underweight direction
2016-04-08T03:30:32 < ReadError> BMI is dumb
2016-04-08T03:33:39 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-08T03:38:23 < ReadError> heh nice
2016-04-08T03:38:33 < ReadError> got a sweet deal on this broken hotplate/stirrer
2016-04-08T03:38:35 < ReadError> broken
2016-04-08T03:38:46 < ReadError> just had to short 2 wires and its fixed
2016-04-08T03:52:38 < Laurenceb_> how will you trigger without a trigger switch
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2016-04-08T03:57:54 < ReadError> ohsix not even
2016-04-08T03:57:59 < ReadError> it has an external temp sensor
2016-04-08T03:57:59 < Laurenceb_> emergency triggering button: autoposts edgelord comments on twitter
2016-04-08T03:58:09 < ReadError> but if you arent using that you short 2 pins
2016-04-08T03:58:16 < Laurenceb_> this could be a product - usb connected foot pedal
2016-04-08T03:58:31 < ReadError> http://www.ika.com/owa/ika/catalog.product_detail?iProduct=3810000
2016-04-08T03:58:36 < ReadError> pretty legit one
2016-04-08T03:59:05 < ReadError> hmm works here
2016-04-08T03:59:20 < Laurenceb_> holy shit thats expensive
2016-04-08T03:59:30 < Laurenceb_> is ReadError in UK?
2016-04-08T03:59:46 < ReadError> swings the magnet like a bau5
2016-04-08T03:59:49 < ReadError> USA m8
2016-04-08T03:59:56 < Laurenceb_> u wot m8
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2016-04-08T04:00:05 < Laurenceb_> are you running a meth lab?
2016-04-08T04:00:13 < ReadError> no
2016-04-08T04:00:18 < ReadError> meth is gross
2016-04-08T04:00:19 < Laurenceb_> boring then :P
2016-04-08T04:00:24 < Laurenceb_> true :D
2016-04-08T04:01:14 < ReadError> ohsix uses a PTC1000
2016-04-08T04:01:46 < Laurenceb_> today I had another product idea
2016-04-08T04:02:02 < ReadError> double ended dildong?
2016-04-08T04:02:08 < Laurenceb_> animatronic robot shop assistant for automated checkouts
2016-04-08T04:02:21 < Laurenceb_> you could have different ironic ones
2016-04-08T04:02:38 < Laurenceb_> like one that has baseball cap and says "U WOT M8"
2016-04-08T04:02:48 < Laurenceb_>  "GIVE ME UR COINS M8"
2016-04-08T04:02:56 < Laurenceb_> and then maybe asian waifu one
2016-04-08T04:02:57 < Laurenceb_> and so on
2016-04-08T04:03:31 < Laurenceb_> did I mention I was high when this happened
2016-04-08T04:03:36 < Laurenceb_> maybe its still a good idea
2016-04-08T04:04:09 < ReadError> hogwarts is a drug free campus I thought?
2016-04-08T04:04:52 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9nM1rGLd/IMG_1406.JPG
2016-04-08T04:04:58 < ReadError> cuttin dis bitch right now
2016-04-08T04:05:04 < ReadError> 'alf a brick ayeee
2016-04-08T04:06:22 < ReadError> $39/2
2016-04-08T04:06:31 < ReadError> 7075 1" thick
2016-04-08T04:06:37 < Laurenceb_> even better idea
2016-04-08T04:06:46 < Laurenceb_> microsoft tay hooked up to an automated checkout
2016-04-08T04:06:51 < Laurenceb_> truly epic lulz
2016-04-08T04:07:01 < ReadError> amazon actually has really good metal prices
2016-04-08T04:07:12 < ReadError> better than mouser and other non-metal-only sellers
2016-04-08T04:07:29 < ReadError> nah
2016-04-08T04:07:33 < ReadError> CBA
2016-04-08T04:07:49 < Laurenceb_> why would you buy metal on amazon O_oi
2016-04-08T04:07:56 < ReadError> why not?
2016-04-08T04:07:59 < ReadError> excellent values
2016-04-08T04:08:08 < Laurenceb_> I guess if you need something specialist
2016-04-08T04:08:23 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Rectangular-Unpolished-Finish-Thickness/dp/B003ZHV3TM
2016-04-08T04:08:29 < ReadError> 6061 Aluminum Rectangular Bar, Unpolished (Mill) Finish, 1/2" Thickness, 4" Width, 36" Length
2016-04-08T04:08:31 < Laurenceb_> I usually go down my street to raid local company bins :P
2016-04-08T04:08:35 < ReadError> $33 shipped
2016-04-08T04:08:39 < Laurenceb_> they make JCB gearboxes
2016-04-08T04:09:17 < Laurenceb_> to be fair I know the owners, they do CNC milling for me
2016-04-08T04:09:17 < ReadError> i really needed another piece of 7075 1/2" x 4"
2016-04-08T04:09:26 < ReadError> but I bought the last one the other week
2016-04-08T04:09:48 < ReadError> 30303
2016-04-08T04:09:52 < ReadError> theres places in ATL
2016-04-08T04:10:05 < ReadError> I got a quote from metal supermarkets
2016-04-08T04:10:11 < ReadError> and it was much higher than amazon
2016-04-08T04:10:27 < ReadError> it was like 87$ for the same shit lol
2016-04-08T04:10:53 < ReadError> either way, prime is easy
2016-04-08T04:11:02 < ReadError> driving down would take 1.25hrs
2016-04-08T04:11:03 < ReadError> each way
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2016-04-08T04:11:24 < ReadError> i rarely cut metal
2016-04-08T04:11:35 < Laurenceb_> muricans seem to actually enjoy driving for hours and hours :P
2016-04-08T04:11:42 < ReadError> just need it for this one project
2016-04-08T04:12:50 < ReadError> if i needed more i would consider it
2016-04-08T04:12:55 < Laurenceb_> I got stuck on a coach from NYC to Toronto once, that was the most bored I have ever been
2016-04-08T04:18:01 < ReadError> TIL: Creme Puff (August 3, 1967 – August 6, 2005) was an American cat who died aged 38 years and 3 days (or 168 cat years). She was the oldest cat ever recorded, according to the 2010 edition of Guinness World Records.[1][2][3]
2016-04-08T04:18:06 < ReadError> 38 fucking years
2016-04-08T04:19:22 < ReadError> oh right, on topic
2016-04-08T04:19:24 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/uwotm8
2016-04-08T04:22:49 < Laurenceb_> WE WAZ M8TZ N SHIEEEETTT
2016-04-08T04:23:20 < ReadError> relax and ava wank m8
2016-04-08T04:24:47 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bExsS0yw6g8
2016-04-08T04:25:43 < aandrew> jesus I think I had an aneurysm trying to read that
2016-04-08T04:27:49 < Laurenceb_> the full Crusading Otter back catalogue seems to have disappeared from the nets
2016-04-08T04:28:08 < Laurenceb_> such a shame
2016-04-08T04:30:17 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU3Vxdu4bWY
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2016-04-08T04:56:03 < aandrew> wow that's cheap
2016-04-08T04:56:18 < aandrew> Hirose wants $1200 for a fucking hand crimp
2016-04-08T04:56:30 < aandrew> picked up some jap styled non-ratcheting one for $50
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2016-04-08T04:56:40 < aandrew> and it's got transformer themed grips
2016-04-08T04:58:04 < aandrew> https://www.amazon.ca/Engineer-PA-09-Micro-Connector-Crimpers/dp/B002AVVO7K?ie=UTF8&ref_=pe_386430_189358230_TE_item
2016-04-08T04:58:23 < aandrew> check out those grips
2016-04-08T04:58:26 < aandrew> ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
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2016-04-08T05:23:44 < dongs> zyp, i did. she didnt have that one you linked.
2016-04-08T05:23:56 < dongs> Sync: nice
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2016-04-08T05:56:12 < ds2> $@%#@$#@$#@ downloadable symbols
2016-04-08T06:00:48 < dongs> wat
2016-04-08T06:01:00 < dongs> did you use aidsfruit eagle library again
2016-04-08T06:01:03 < dongs> and end up with a fucked footprint
2016-04-08T06:03:56 < dongs> that guy you have on ignore
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2016-04-08T06:07:14 < dongs> haha no my pal was like if you want cooler cools, just get this http://www.coolingtechnique.com/img/rece/dissipatori/noctua/nh-d15s_c14s/noctua_nh_d15s_6.jpg
2016-04-08T06:07:19 < dongs> so i did
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2016-04-08T06:10:39 < dongs> also its not the 6700-KIKE version so that helps too.
2016-04-08T06:10:49 < dongs> even at 100% all cores it doesnt go over like 55C
2016-04-08T06:11:08 < ReadError> Im waiting for the new intels to drop
2016-04-08T06:11:13 < dongs> they wont
2016-04-08T06:11:17 < ReadError> nothing too fun in kikelake
2016-04-08T06:11:25 < ReadError> no, like come out
2016-04-08T06:11:49 < dongs> there was nothing in roadmap for at least a year
2016-04-08T06:11:50 < dongs> last i looked
2016-04-08T06:11:57 < dongs> some retarded broadwell mobile shit
2016-04-08T06:12:01 < ReadError> broadwell?
2016-04-08T06:12:10 < dongs> kikelake-based xeons that cant run in desktop chipsets anymore
2016-04-08T06:12:14 < dongs> all the shit looked boring
2016-04-08T06:12:38 < dongs> http://wccftech.com/intel-2016-roadmap-leaked-confirms-kaby-lakes-10-core-broadwelle-apollo-lake-processors/
2016-04-08T06:12:42 < dongs> this junk
2016-04-08T06:13:12 < ReadError> broadwell-e
2016-04-08T06:13:35 < dongs> 140W socket 2011 for 6900K
2016-04-08T06:13:39 < dongs> fuck off
2016-04-08T06:13:54 < ReadError> Im going xeon next
2016-04-08T06:13:57 < ReadError> 64gb ram
2016-04-08T06:14:04 < dongs> you can have 64gb   ram in standard dekstop now
2016-04-08T06:14:11 < dongs> 16gb sticks * 4
2016-04-08T06:14:12 < ReadError> not in the i series
2016-04-08T06:14:15 < ReadError> 32gb max
2016-04-08T06:14:16 < dongs> yes in i series
2016-04-08T06:14:17 < dongs> nope
2016-04-08T06:14:20 < ReadError> showme
2016-04-08T06:14:26 < ReadError> cpu is limited to 32bg
2016-04-08T06:14:28 < ReadError> gb
2016-04-08T06:14:36 < dongs> Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)64 GB
2016-04-08T06:14:37 < ReadError> 6700k
2016-04-08T06:14:38 < dongs> http://ark.intel.com/products/88196/Intel-Core-i7-6700-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz
2016-04-08T06:14:42 < dongs> 6700 non-kike
2016-04-08T06:14:47 < dongs> i have 32g nhow and 2 empty slots.
2016-04-08T06:14:51 < dongs> so I can put in 32 more.
2016-04-08T06:15:01 < dongs> -kike is same im sure.
2016-04-08T06:15:04 < ReadError> wtf
2016-04-08T06:15:10 < dongs> no reason for the new broadwell shit to be limtied to 32 either
2016-04-08T06:15:12 < ReadError> so k doesnt
2016-04-08T06:15:19 < ReadError> but the other does
2016-04-08T06:15:23 < dongs> wait wat
2016-04-08T06:15:34 < dongs> ohsix: dont have anymore ddr4
2016-04-08T06:15:48 < ReadError> wtf was I looking at earlier hmm
2016-04-08T06:16:11 < dongs> ReadError: no idea, both 6700 and /k are 64g max
2016-04-08T06:16:16 < dongs> pretty sure all of kikelake is that
2016-04-08T06:16:25 < dongs> cuz ddr4 can finally do 16gb/module
2016-04-08T06:16:29 < ReadError> thats new for desktop cpus then
2016-04-08T06:16:48 < ReadError> all previous gens was limited to 32 unless you went xeon
2016-04-08T06:17:02 < ReadError> can get 64gb for like 300$
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2016-04-08T06:35:15 < dongs> i think i paid around $80 for this 32gb shit
2016-04-08T06:35:25 < dongs> since i didnt carea bout gaymer spec
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2016-04-08T07:17:38 < dongs> well thats interesting
2016-04-08T07:17:42 < dongs> altim just spammed me in japanese
2016-04-08T07:17:47 < dongs> on email i've never given to altium
2016-04-08T07:19:22 < dongs> .. about altium designer 16.1 thats coming soon
2016-04-08T07:19:47 < dongs> http://www.altium.com/altium-designer/coming-soon
2016-04-08T07:22:54 < ReadError> thongs
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2016-04-08T07:26:36 < dongs> draftsman looks ok, hopefully i can stop mspainting how i wanna array shit and stuff
2016-04-08T07:29:05 < dongs>  < dongs> http://www.altium.com/altium-designer/coming-soon
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2016-04-08T07:30:50 < aandrew> sigh
2016-04-08T07:30:53 < aandrew> fucking stm32 usb
2016-04-08T07:32:18 < dongs> keep raging
2016-04-08T07:32:30 < dongs> orcad is still completely awful
2016-04-08T07:32:44 < dongs> i opened it up once to look at some dumb design before converting it to altium
2016-04-08T07:32:49 < dongs> i couldnt even figure out how to zoom the pcb
2016-04-08T07:33:48 < dongs> but you're ok wiht paying $20k+ for equivalent cuckcad license??
2016-04-08T07:34:14 < dongs> 3.5k orcad has barely more feateures than diptrace 3.0
2016-04-08T07:34:21 < dongs> no its not
2016-04-08T07:34:23 < dongs> yes
2016-04-08T07:34:33 < dongs> 3.5k orcad cant do diffpairs
2016-04-08T07:34:46 < dongs> even $600 dicktrace can do it
2016-04-08T07:35:05 < dongs> link
2016-04-08T07:35:09 < dongs> show me where it says
2016-04-08T07:35:14 < dongs> highspeed design
2016-04-08T07:35:16 < dongs> for $3500
2016-04-08T07:35:17 < dongs> orcad
2016-04-08T07:39:31 < dongs> where's pricing for that
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2016-04-08T07:47:36 < ds2> R2COM: $3500!??!!
2016-04-08T07:47:50 < ds2> you paid $1.5K more then they were selling before
2016-04-08T07:48:06 < ds2> I paid around 2K for it
2016-04-08T07:48:11 < ds2> :D
2016-04-08T07:48:37 < ds2> I get quoted about 10K for altium
2016-04-08T07:49:40 < ds2> Protel has left such a bad taste from before....
2016-04-08T07:49:47 < ds2> I wouldn't use it if they paid me $10K
2016-04-08T07:56:52 < ReadError> that tanner shit is pretty crazy
2016-04-08T07:56:57 < ReadError> always wondered what they used
2016-04-08T07:57:33 < ReadError> for silicone design
2016-04-08T07:58:02 < ReadError> https://www.mentor.com/tannereda/place-route
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2016-04-08T07:59:34 < dongs> stoner'd
2016-04-08T07:59:48 < dongs> huh
2016-04-08T07:59:54 < dongs> i bought some usb ra sockets somewehre
2016-04-08T07:59:55 < ds2> not doing support at the moment
2016-04-08T08:00:00 < ds2> R2COM: Pro
2016-04-08T08:00:00 < dongs> and they have thse nice side posts
2016-04-08T08:00:04 < dongs> but i cannot find the shit again
2016-04-08T08:01:06 < ds2> R2COM: yep. plus I need to do enough jobs to justify it
2016-04-08T08:01:13 < ds2> eagle is quicker for small stuff
2016-04-08T08:01:29 < ds2> esp. now that I got a quick path for MCAD integration
2016-04-08T08:01:34 < dongs> if you think orcad is great, yeah im sure "eagle" is "quicker" for small stuff
2016-04-08T08:01:39 < ds2> kicad blows... no libraries
2016-04-08T08:01:39 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/F9A1XaVr.jpg
2016-04-08T08:01:41 < dongs> any idea guise
2016-04-08T08:01:53 < dongs> i want the one on right side
2016-04-08T08:01:56 < ds2> dongs: it is not what I think... it is everyone else in the industry
2016-04-08T08:02:05 < dongs> ds2: libraries? what teh fuck is that?
2016-04-08T08:02:14 < ds2> OrCAD is the low end entry for Allegro
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2016-04-08T08:02:28 < ds2> dongs: symbols/footprints...got a decent collection in eagle
2016-04-08T08:02:57 < dongs> ds2, ?? it shouldnt take more than a few extra minutes to draw stuff you need to use
2016-04-08T08:03:07 < ds2> dongs: I got some SoCs in my library
2016-04-08T08:03:18 < ds2> try a few hours...plus I have built those so I know the libraries are right
2016-04-08T08:03:20 < dongs> ohsix: yeah. but that split mounting pad
2016-04-08T08:03:27 < dongs> ds2, exactly
2016-04-08T08:03:53 < dongs> no, just right angle, nothing special
2016-04-08T08:04:01 < dongs> that is standard footprint/layout/height
2016-04-08T08:04:06 < dongs> just the mount part is diff
2016-04-08T08:04:27 < dongs> i cannot find what the fuck those were, i thought it was molex but apaprentely not
2016-04-08T08:04:33 < ds2> it is so nice to sanity check things with the mcad integration
2016-04-08T08:14:05 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SruWwLmj/IMG_1409.JPG
2016-04-08T08:14:16 < ReadError> this thing has been going for a while
2016-04-08T08:16:06 < ReadError> cant now working on something else too
2016-04-08T08:22:48 < dongs> thats it
2016-04-08T08:22:53 < dongs> my 3D data was actually named by part#
2016-04-08T08:22:54 < dongs> 87520-0010BLF
2016-04-08T08:23:50 < dongs> oh duh it says FCI right on the plastic part
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2016-04-08T08:44:13 < dongs> chatting microsoft to activate my windows
2016-04-08T08:44:19 < dongs> on new hardware
2016-04-08T08:48:36 < emeb_mac> "oh please, PLEASE unka bill, I be good and do everything you ask if you'd just let me run your OS please"
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2016-04-08T09:04:40 < dongs> nice, fixed
2016-04-08T09:04:45 < dongs> wut
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2016-04-08T09:12:29 < dongs> tehy did try to sell me MICROSOFT PREMIER SUPPORT
2016-04-08T09:12:32 < dongs> for only 16500 JPY/year
2016-04-08T09:12:36 < dongs> something about antivierus
2016-04-08T09:12:41 < dongs> i was like wat no thanks
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2016-04-08T09:52:55 < dongs> fuckign 4pm already
2016-04-08T09:53:00 < dongs> thats waht happens when I sleep in until like 11
2016-04-08T09:53:04 < dongs> didnt get shit done either
2016-04-08T09:53:09 < dongs> assburgering all over the place
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2016-04-08T10:01:34 < dongs> ya? how does that work
2016-04-08T10:02:17 < dongs> ah nice
2016-04-08T10:02:23 < dongs> yeah they gotta somehow make use of that middleware
2016-04-08T10:02:26 < dongs> that nobody actually wants
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2016-04-08T10:12:34 < dongs> did you name your in-game character "STM32"
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2016-04-08T11:11:37 < dongs> doesnt sound STM32 related at all
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2016-04-08T11:47:24 < PeterM> dongs, you're like ancient relic of irc, what clent do you use?
2016-04-08T11:47:36 < PeterM> and do you ahve a bouncer etc
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2016-04-08T12:04:45 < PeterM> hi crt
2016-04-08T12:05:06 < PeterM> how was today?
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2016-04-08T12:07:12 < PeterM> i got mad bit by wasps today
2016-04-08T12:07:23 < PeterM> hand was stupid swollen most of the day
2016-04-08T12:07:34 < PeterM> nah, i nthe workshop
2016-04-08T12:09:04 < PeterM> nah, in the mechanical workshop o nthe farm, on hte bandsaw, mad wasp nest
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2016-04-08T12:24:49 < ReadError> do you live on the farm ?
2016-04-08T12:27:11 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/e6nX6oIj/IMG_1410.JPG
2016-04-08T12:27:36 < ReadError> fucked this up good and proper, DOC and stepover is away too conservative
2016-04-08T12:27:41 < ReadError> its taking ages
2016-04-08T12:28:38 < ReadError> by that i mean, 12hrs so far loool
2016-04-08T12:31:47 < ReadError> motor mounts for these mountainboard hangers
2016-04-08T12:31:53 < ReadError> well part of the motor mount
2016-04-08T12:32:21 < ReadError> hopefully i only need to cut 1 set ever
2016-04-08T12:32:49 < ReadError> if i fuck up tapping them im going to be super upset/sad
2016-04-08T12:33:40 < ReadError> np
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2016-04-08T12:40:52 < PeterM> ReadError, no i dont live on the farm
2016-04-08T12:43:16 < PeterM> crt that tts guy doign the presentation pronounces mono-stable as mon-ost-able
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2016-04-08T12:46:35 < ReadError> i doubt an aspie would be giving a presentation
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2016-04-08T12:50:04 < PeterM> " crt that tts guy "
2016-04-08T12:50:12 < PeterM> " crt that TTS guy "
2016-04-08T12:50:24 < PeterM> " crt that text to speech guy "
2016-04-08T12:52:09 < PeterM> wut
2016-04-08T12:52:18 < PeterM> are u 9 bro?
2016-04-08T12:54:05 < PeterM> was gonna say, the world has evolved m8, it's all about VR Porn these days
2016-04-08T12:56:49 < PeterM> your pots on teh pstn
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2016-04-08T13:14:29 < mitrax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo6DMraYXU&nohtml5=False
2016-04-08T13:20:11 < ReadError> decisions decisions
2016-04-08T13:20:20 < ReadError> how 2 get stoned now
2016-04-08T13:20:42 < ReadError> RFC dongs
2016-04-08T13:23:26 < PeterM> ReadError, spin in circles until you get dizzy
2016-04-08T13:24:04 < ReadError> Im a mature responsible person now with a real job
2016-04-08T13:24:09 < ReadError> I can afford drugs my friend
2016-04-08T13:24:33 < PeterM> as can i
2016-04-08T13:24:40 < ReadError> spinny days are behind me
2016-04-08T13:25:23 < PeterM> nah, spinning is great
2016-04-08T13:25:31 < PeterM> can beat spinning
2016-04-08T13:25:43 < ReadError> you sure can
2016-04-08T13:25:48 < PeterM> actually, what if you did beat spinning
2016-04-08T13:25:53 < PeterM> i wonder how that'd go
2016-04-08T13:26:13 < ReadError> too much effort ;(
2016-04-08T13:26:17 < PeterM> 10/10 dizzy jizzy
2016-04-08T13:26:25 < PeterM> crt on that
2016-04-08T13:26:35 < PeterM> tell us how it goes
2016-04-08T13:26:48 < PeterM> ill call the paramedics just incase
2016-04-08T13:45:42 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16k-yhcRNk8
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2016-04-08T13:55:55 < dongs> neat
2016-04-08T13:56:07 < dongs> P-CAD ascii seems to be a nice format that can be autogenerated
2016-04-08T13:56:11 < dongs> to migrate footprints into altidong
2016-04-08T13:56:12 < dongs> from say.. eagle
2016-04-08T13:56:17 < dongs> ^ attn ds2
2016-04-08T13:56:29 < dongs> the .lia shit
2016-04-08T13:56:46 < dongs> heh it almost looks like dicktrace ascii
2016-04-08T13:56:52 < dongs> lisp-style shit wiht ()'s
2016-04-08T13:56:57 < PeterM> dongs finally you can use the official tarduino header offsets now!
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2016-04-08T14:29:03 < ReadError> yea but pros dont trust/use that shit
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2016-04-08T14:37:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Writing-drawing-patents-for-OAPI/
2016-04-08T14:37:49 < karlp> zyp: MAX78615 looks kinda quirky, that isolated adc inputs sounds interesting in some ways, saves them having to have isolators for i2c/spi/uart, but often  you just have an isolator on spi and you're done.
2016-04-08T14:38:18 < karlp> but yeah, itw ould simplify things, the one we use has interrupt out pins that we can't use because we only have the spi isolator, so we just poll it frequently.
2016-04-08T14:38:26 < karlp> spi speed is only 1Mhz, seems pretty shitt
2016-04-08T14:38:31 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Create-prototype-for-acceleration-sensor/
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2016-04-08T14:38:34 < dongs> wat
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2016-04-08T14:39:48 < dongs> nice
2016-04-08T14:39:50 < dongs> shitlancer banned me
2016-04-08T14:40:22 < ReadError> comment trolling?
2016-04-08T14:40:29 < zyp> karlp, well, I'd also need an isolated power supply
2016-04-08T14:41:11 < zyp> spi isolators seems small and cheap compared to the transformers
2016-04-08T14:41:34 < zyp> but not needing an isolated DC/DC or something might make it worth it anyway
2016-04-08T14:41:37 < dongs> i duno im getting 502s/502s
2016-04-08T14:41:39 < dongs> er 503s
2016-04-08T14:41:49 < ReadError> same
2016-04-08T14:41:55 < ReadError> Error 503 Service Unavailable
2016-04-08T14:41:55 < ReadError> Service Unavailable
2016-04-08T14:41:55 < ReadError> Guru Meditation:
2016-04-08T14:41:55 < ReadError> XID: 2065825281
2016-04-08T14:41:59 < dongs> rite k
2016-04-08T14:42:04 < dongs> someone must have freeeelanceed some php on their site
2016-04-08T14:42:06 < dongs> and madee a mistake
2016-04-08T14:42:08 < dongs> also my ee key is fucked
2016-04-08T14:42:12 < dongs> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2016-04-08T14:42:13 < dongs> eee
2016-04-08T14:42:14 < dongs> niggers
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2016-04-08T14:46:20 < karlp> zyp: well, you need an isolated supply somewhere anyway, unless you want to just run the entire internals on the one supply.
2016-04-08T14:46:46 < karlp> whether the measurement chip or just it's AFEs are on the isolated domain sounds like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
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2016-04-08T14:51:51 < karlp> that maxim part doesn't seem to support rogowski coils either?
2016-04-08T14:55:27 < jpa-> btw, can someone explain to me why rogowski coil requires integrator, but normal current transformer doesn't?
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2016-04-08T14:56:54 < karlp> rog coils don't give you a direct current proportionally like a CT, you get a voltage based on the rate of change of the input
2016-04-08T14:57:15 < karlp> yeah, like he quoted dikipedia or something
2016-04-08T14:57:23 < karlp> just how the rog coil works.
2016-04-08T14:58:08 < karlp> some of the measurement chips hve a switchabale integrator built in, some don't
2016-04-08T14:58:31 < karlp> the one on the ADE part we use has it, but you need to change the physical layout of the inputs too, so you have to decide ahead of time anyway.
2016-04-08T14:59:33 < jpa-> as i see it, there are two main differences in rogowski coil: 1) lack of iron core; and 2) the wire passed back through the center of the coil;   i think 2) is just to zero out external fields, but does the iron core somehow integrate or why isn't normal CT just sensing the derivative also?
2016-04-08T14:59:58 < jpa-> or is it that a normal CT is connected to low input impedance amplifier, whereas rog coil is usually connected to high input impedance amplifier?
2016-04-08T15:00:48 < karlp> rog coil isn't anythign like a "coil" in the normal sense.
2016-04-08T15:01:09 < jpa-> it looks like a coil to me :)
2016-04-08T15:01:25 < karlp> normal CT is just straight transformer theory, primary and secondary windings, proprortioanl output
2016-04-08T15:01:32 < jpa-> and also the equations seem like it would just give voltage relative to the change of the magnetic field passing through its center
2016-04-08T15:01:46 < Sync> yes
2016-04-08T15:01:48 < Sync> that is the idea
2016-04-08T15:02:10 < jpa-> well that's part of it; i can see how normal transformer works out for sinusoidal currents; but for sinusoidal currents, the distinction between derivative and proportional doesn't matter that much
2016-04-08T15:02:31 < jpa-> so i don't understand how normal transformers manage to give proportional output if rog coil does not
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2016-04-08T15:03:37 < jpa-> why doesn't normal transformer have 1) core field proportional to primary current and 2) secondary voltage according to derivative of core field?
2016-04-08T15:05:32 < zyp> karlp, the maxim chip supplies power through the same transformer that passes data
2016-04-08T15:05:44 < karlp> yeah, read that later, kinda tricksy :)
2016-04-08T15:06:03 < karlp> still need an isolated supply though right?
2016-04-08T15:06:09 < karlp> just now you don't need a mains side supply as well.
2016-04-08T15:06:18 < zyp> sure
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2016-04-08T15:07:41 < zyp> you're suggesting I run an unisolated AC/DC followed by isolated DC/DC?
2016-04-08T15:07:43 < karlp> api for the part looks basically pretty similar to most of the ones I've looked at,
2016-04-08T15:08:03 < karlp> zyp: that woudl have been my first model, yeah.
2016-04-08T15:08:24 < zyp> any decent unisolated AC/DC modules I should look at?
2016-04-08T15:08:42 < karlp> no idea, we hacked up a super cheap capacitive one.
2016-04-08T15:08:57 < karlp> you want more power, because you'd need to run the isolated dc/dc off it too.
2016-04-08T15:09:02 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-08T15:09:23 < karlp> we just cheated and got the "isolated" dc/dc as an extra input to the device.
2016-04-08T15:15:32 < karlp> heh, it has their own rs485 multidrop protcol.
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2016-04-08T15:19:49 < qyx> uhm rogowski coil
2016-04-08T15:19:53 < qyx> knowledge gathered
2016-04-08T15:20:59 < karlp> rog coils were harder to measure in the past, smaller signals, more maths, so all the old power meter stuff used big 5A CTs,
2016-04-08T15:21:26 < karlp> alllll hte big vendors have either already brought out or have announced tehy're coming out with "flexible coil" sensors these days,
2016-04-08T15:21:45 < karlp> cheaper, smaller, easier to install, and _nowadays_ just as accurate.
2016-04-08T15:22:01 < karlp> well, not always hceaper, depends who you're buyig from
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2016-04-08T16:24:18 < dongs> hm
2016-04-08T16:33:45 < dongs> 2daves1cup
2016-04-08T16:34:01 < dongs> follow on teh eevpatreon channel
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2016-04-08T16:54:01 < dongs> feelacner is back
2016-04-08T16:54:06 < dongs> the card skimmer guy still trying
2016-04-08T16:54:10 < dongs> 7th repost
2016-04-08T16:55:48 < karlp> fucking new st site is fuckz0r
2016-04-08T16:56:02 < dongs> haha so that mobile shit was actually legit?
2016-04-08T16:56:18 < karlp> yeah, google has links to things I want, all busted, search terms are useless.
2016-04-08T16:56:31 < dongs> e200z
2016-04-08T16:56:45 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/f71pHD3.png check out this pro piracy enabling socket lol
2016-04-08T16:57:46 < dongs> The smartest way to find your STM32 & STM8 microcontroller
2016-04-08T16:57:46 < dongs> The smartest way to find your STM32 & STM8 microcontroller
2016-04-08T16:57:46 < dongs> ST-MCU-FINDER is a free application for smartphones and tablets that guides you through the portfolio of more than 700 STM32 and STM8 MCUs, and helps you select the product that best fit your application.
2016-04-08T16:57:53 < dongs> im acutally gon check that out
2016-04-08T16:58:01 < dongs> i bet tis jsut the cubemx selector thing
2016-04-08T16:58:23 < kakimir> dongs: what is that socket?
2016-04-08T16:58:37 < kakimir> it's insane
2016-04-08T16:58:57 < dongs> kakimir: piracy enabler
2016-04-08T16:59:05 < kakimir> I wonder what is the biggest package by pincount there is
2016-04-08T17:00:05 < dongs> surely that $20000 xilinx fpga
2016-04-08T17:00:20 < kakimir> is choosing a stm32 that hard you need app for it?
2016-04-08T17:00:34 < dongs> yes
2016-04-08T17:00:46 < kakimir> you know key features by series
2016-04-08T17:01:00 < kakimir> and number of shiet as number goes bigger
2016-04-08T17:01:39 < dongs> kakimir: here you go http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xilinx-inc/XC7V2000T-G2FLG1925E/XC7V2000T-G2FLG1925E-ND/3981901
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2016-04-08T17:32:17 < jonsowman> so then, I2C clock stretching
2016-04-08T17:32:33 < jonsowman> how can I configure the time between the slave releasing SCL and the master (stm32) sampling sda?
2016-04-08T17:32:34 < zyp> are you being slave or master?
2016-04-08T17:32:43 < inca> st website change again?
2016-04-08T17:32:56 < jonsowman> stm32 master, HTU21 (temp/humidity sensor) slave
2016-04-08T17:33:05 < jonsowman> the htu21 clock stretches during measurement
2016-04-08T17:33:06 < zyp> inca, looks like it, I was annoyed over broken links due to that yesterday
2016-04-08T17:33:28 < jonsowman> I am finding that the MSbit of the returned data is 1 when it should be 0
2016-04-08T17:33:34  * inca wonders when they will go UNIX and lock that stuff down
2016-04-08T17:33:46 < inca> it's so slow =(
2016-04-08T17:34:04 < jonsowman> i suspect this to be because sda is high during clock stretching and once the slave releases scl, the stm32 samples sda too soon (before the slave drives sda to 0)
2016-04-08T17:35:18 < zyp> have you checked the bus activity with a LA?
2016-04-08T17:35:33 < jonsowman> yes
2016-04-08T17:35:41 < jonsowman> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kww7qob4vt6aevw/Screenshot%202016-04-08%2015.25.25.png?dl=0
2016-04-08T17:35:43 < zyp> slave should drive sda to 0 before releasing scl
2016-04-08T17:36:18 < zyp> oh, and it does
2016-04-08T17:36:21 < jonsowman> it does, but that interval is 62.5ns which is the sampling period of the LA
2016-04-08T17:36:24 < jonsowman> 16MHz
2016-04-08T17:36:46 < zyp> right
2016-04-08T17:36:58 < jonsowman> in any case, the stm32 reads a '1' there
2016-04-08T17:37:01 < jonsowman> (sometimes)
2016-04-08T17:37:12 < jonsowman> about 50% of the time it reads 0 as it should
2016-04-08T17:37:37 < zyp> this really sounds like bad behavior on the slave's part
2016-04-08T17:37:58 < jonsowman> could well be
2016-04-08T17:38:05 < jonsowman> it's a fairly commonly used device!
2016-04-08T17:38:08 < jonsowman> doesn't mean much i suppose
2016-04-08T17:38:34 < zyp> maybe your pullups are too strong, perhaps it doesn't manage to drive sda low enough before scl is pulled high
2016-04-08T17:38:49 < jonsowman> interesting
2016-04-08T17:38:54 < jonsowman> ok, i'll try changing them
2016-04-08T17:38:59 < zyp> I'm just guessing wildly :)
2016-04-08T17:39:06 < jonsowman> well it sounds plausible
2016-04-08T17:39:15 < zyp> usually the problem is that they are to weak so stuff aren't rising fast enough
2016-04-08T17:39:36 < jonsowman> is there any way of configuring how long the stm32 waits after that rising SCL edge before sampling SDA? (using SDADEL or SCLDEL)
2016-04-08T17:40:11 < inca> damn... can't seem to get to the webpage for USB host driver package
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2016-04-08T17:44:05 < inca> there we go. cached link from yesterday's sleepless browsing.
2016-04-08T17:46:20 < jonsowman> zyp: you were right
2016-04-08T17:46:26 < jonsowman> removed the 4k7 pullups
2016-04-08T17:46:32 < jonsowman> using the stm32 internal ones only
2016-04-08T17:46:33 < jonsowman> works fine
2016-04-08T17:47:50 < inca> the examples are IAR's EWARM? really?
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2016-04-08T18:14:35 < Laurenceb> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/shocking-tiny-sex-robot-looks-7564114
2016-04-08T18:14:38 < Laurenceb> lolling
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2016-04-08T18:14:47 < Laurenceb> kakimir waifu
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2016-04-08T18:20:53 < zyp> karlp, looks like AD has some similar thing to the maxim one, except with internal insulation in the ADC chips
2016-04-08T18:20:56 < zyp> http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/ADE7978_7933_7932.pdf
2016-04-08T18:23:26 < zyp> isolation*
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2016-04-08T18:23:54 < zyp> the ADC chips looks fairly big though
2016-04-08T18:26:49 < Laurenceb> https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/sets/72157636929911016
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2016-04-08T18:36:26 < karlp> zyp: sexy
2016-04-08T18:37:25 < zyp> now I'm just missing a single chip solution with internal isolation :p
2016-04-08T18:39:27 < karlp> ahh, teridian is maxim now, right.
2016-04-08T18:39:30 < zyp> hey, this datasheet actually describes how to hook it up for delta metering
2016-04-08T18:39:49 < zyp> none of the others I've read said how, just that it were possible :p
2016-04-08T18:39:52 < karlp> have you looked at cirrus parts at all? I think we had a dev board here when I started, never used it though
2016-04-08T18:39:58 < zyp> no
2016-04-08T18:41:51 < zyp> delta metering hooks up like I expected
2016-04-08T18:42:51 < zyp> just treat one phase conductor as if it were N in a wye hookup, hook up the other two like normal
2016-04-08T18:43:21 < zyp> this thing says nothing about a single phase mode though
2016-04-08T18:43:45 < zyp> but I guess any hookup would just work and do the right thing even if only one phase is supplied
2016-04-08T18:44:29 < karlp> normally only requirement is that single phases uses channel "A" sort of thing
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2016-04-08T18:50:54 < zyp> hmm, maxim got some examples where isolation just consists of a transformer on the voltage inputs
2016-04-08T18:52:03 < zyp> that's of course also a possible solution
2016-04-08T18:52:13 < zyp> but idk how small those would be
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2016-04-08T19:04:55 < dongs> so lattice ICE shit needs separate ide than diamond?
2016-04-08T19:04:57 < dongs> what the fuck
2016-04-08T19:05:01 < dongs> why do they make that shit so much more confusing
2016-04-08T19:07:24 < dongs> lattice fucking gets it
2016-04-08T19:07:31 < dongs> "4+ character password" rule
2016-04-08T19:12:52 < dongs> emeb: what can you do in 3520LUTS
2016-04-08T19:14:36 < emeb> dongs: it looks like a fair amount actually.
2016-04-08T19:14:52 < emeb> I've got some simple stuff running right now that only takes about 1% of the resources
2016-04-08T19:15:22 < dongs> mhm
2016-04-08T19:15:26 < emeb> and these Ultra parts have a bunch of hard IP cores for DSP, SPI, I2C and PLLs that will help reduce the utilization in the fabric.
2016-04-08T19:15:31 < dongs> and thats using opensauce?
2016-04-08T19:15:35 < emeb> No
2016-04-08T19:15:43 < dongs> the timeIcecube?
2016-04-08T19:15:48 < emeb> the Ultra parts aren't supported by the FOSS tools
2016-04-08T19:15:59 < emeb> Have to use Lattice's "icecube2"
2016-04-08T19:16:08 < dongs> which when i clicked download
2016-04-08T19:16:15 < dongs> looked like some insane collection of shit
2016-04-08T19:16:18 < dongs> synplify + some otehr crap
2016-04-08T19:16:22 < dongs> just like back in actel days
2016-04-08T19:16:33 < emeb> Yeah - it's a Lattice wrapper on top of Synplicity.
2016-04-08T19:16:36 < dongs> have to run 5 apps to go from .v to bitstream
2016-04-08T19:16:42 < emeb> Almost no one writes their own synth tools.
2016-04-08T19:17:01 < emeb> but the GUI does all that for you w/o fuss.
2016-04-08T19:17:08 < dongs> hmm.
2016-04-08T19:17:16 < dongs> whats the max SPI interface speed?
2016-04-08T19:17:21 < dongs> can it do like 80-90mhz?
2016-04-08T19:17:35 < emeb> They claim that 100MHz is the top end for the technology
2016-04-08T19:17:42 < dongs> mhm
2016-04-08T19:17:49 < emeb> dunno if you can actually run usable circuits that fast tho
2016-04-08T19:18:09 < dongs> fMAX Maximum SCK clock frequency — — 45 MHz
2016-04-08T19:18:12 < dongs> thats a boner
2016-04-08T19:18:46 < dongs> wonder if serial->parallel converter with some enable bits would work at ~80mhz
2016-04-08T19:18:53 < dongs> thinking mpeg2ts-like stuff
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2016-04-08T19:19:20 < emeb> Might be pushing it if you need 80MHz I/O
2016-04-08T19:19:34 < emeb> probably work fine internally, but I/O is usally slower.
2016-04-08T19:20:07 < dongs> hmm datasheet says 250mhz for lvcmos inputs
2016-04-08T19:20:13 < dongs> and outputs
2016-04-08T19:20:20 < dongs> looking at ice40ultraor wahtever
2016-04-08T19:20:24 < dongs> hmm.
2016-04-08T19:20:28 < emeb> not bad
2016-04-08T19:20:32 < dongs> dunno what "sysIO buffer" is
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2016-04-08T19:21:07 < dongs> 185mhz max fCLK for teh global clock buffer
2016-04-08T19:21:47 < dongs> where's configuration data?
2016-04-08T19:21:54 < dongs> on-chip shit? or you gotta hang external spi trash
2016-04-08T19:22:01 < emeb> either
2016-04-08T19:22:05 < dongs> er..
2016-04-08T19:22:14 < emeb> there's on-chip NV
2016-04-08T19:22:22 < emeb> or external spi flash
2016-04-08T19:22:27 < dongs> does it not fit entire design?
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2016-04-08T19:22:36 < emeb> huh?
2016-04-08T19:22:42 < dongs> welwl, why the fuck is tehre 2 ways to do ti
2016-04-08T19:22:44 < emeb> internal NV holds full design
2016-04-08T19:22:52 < dongs> yea, so why have extenral config for?
2016-04-08T19:23:00 < dongs> some self-updating thing?
2016-04-08T19:23:07 < zyp> bootloading?
2016-04-08T19:23:08 < emeb> external can hold multiple designs
2016-04-08T19:23:12 < dongs> i see.
2016-04-08T19:23:25 < emeb> I'm not sure but internal may be OTP
2016-04-08T19:23:57 < emeb> so if you anticipate updates then external may be required
2016-04-08T19:24:35 < emeb> also there's slave mode so you can have an MCU load it
2016-04-08T19:24:51 < emeb> some folks store the FPGA config in on-chip flash of an MCU
2016-04-08T19:24:52 < dongs> i guess configuration file isnt that big even for a full thing?
2016-04-08T19:25:05 < emeb> it's about 70kB on this 4k part
2016-04-08T19:25:11 < jpa-> i think the datasheet tells how many bits it is
2016-04-08T19:25:22 < dongs> devices also have an on-chip, one-time programmable NVCM (Non-volatile Configuration Memory)
2016-04-08T19:25:25 < dongs> to store configuration data. The
2016-04-08T19:25:26 < dongs> lol it is otp
2016-04-08T19:25:28 < jpa-> you can also compress it a bit if your design is simple
2016-04-08T19:26:08 < emeb> jpa-: yeah - bitstreams can be very sparse
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2016-04-08T19:27:49 < dongs> Table 8. Bitstream Sizes for Different iCE40 FPGA Densities Used to Select a SPI Flash
2016-04-08T19:28:00 < jpa-> i wonder if anyone has made a binary-to-.c utility that generates self-decompressing function
2016-04-08T19:28:01 < dongs> looks like 128k max
2016-04-08T19:28:09 < dongs> 70k for uce5 stuff
2016-04-08T19:28:30 < dongs> jpa, self-decompressing how?
2016-04-08T19:28:36 < dongs> on mcu that'd be in flash anyway
2016-04-08T19:28:50 < dongs> so you have nowhere to decompress
2016-04-08T19:28:55 < jpa-> i mean like you don't have to mind about including and messing with decompression algorithm separately
2016-04-08T19:28:56 < emeb> on-the-fly
2016-04-08T19:29:13 < emeb> expands a small table to the full 70k
2016-04-08T19:29:21 < jpa-> and yeah, something like    void decompress_my_crap(uint8_t *buffer, size_t length, size_t offset);    or with callbacks
2016-04-08T19:29:44 < emeb> sounds like a project for jpa :)
2016-04-08T19:29:50 < dongs> probably easist to have something streaming instead
2016-04-08T19:29:53 < dongs> if you dont need random access.
2016-04-08T19:29:57 < emeb> yes
2016-04-08T19:30:02 < emeb> no point in random
2016-04-08T19:30:02 < jpa-> true
2016-04-08T19:30:07 < dongs> cuz random access in compressed shit gonna be hard + useless
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2016-04-08T19:30:44 < karlp> don't need randoma ccess,
2016-04-08T19:30:47 < jpa-> so    void begin_shitting(state_t *state);   void shit_moar(state_t *state, uint8_t *buf, size_t count);
2016-04-08T19:30:48 < emeb> at compress time it decides if compression is worth it
2016-04-08T19:30:52 < karlp> just blasting a decompressed bitstram to the fpga
2016-04-08T19:31:13 < jpa-> but i guess it would be annoying to try make it sane if you have multiple compressed files
2016-04-08T19:31:27 < jpa-> C would pick first implementation of symbol, though.. hmm.
2016-04-08T19:34:16 < emeb> heh - ran binary stats on a config file - 91% of all data is 0x00
2016-04-08T19:34:32 < dongs> ya sure
2016-04-08T19:34:35 < dongs> you could probly just RLE it
2016-04-08T19:34:39 < dongs> and get it down small enough
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2016-04-08T19:37:22 < jpa-> 67kB -> 23kB with lzo compression on one of my images
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2016-04-08T19:38:00 < jpa-> though only 12% total utilization there
2016-04-08T19:39:33 < dongs> k gonna pick up a ICE5LP4K-B-EVN
2016-04-08T19:40:30 < dongs> lol why is aidsfruit shit on digikey
2016-04-08T19:40:44 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/adafruit-industries-llc/1163/1528-1065-ND/5022794
2016-04-08T19:41:32 < emeb> I got one of those ice5 dev boards the other day
2016-04-08T19:41:41 < dongs> same one? 'kay
2016-04-08T19:41:46 < dongs> it has everything I need right?
2016-04-08T19:41:49 < emeb> wrote some code on it this morning - made the RGB LED cycle.
2016-04-08T19:41:53 < emeb> ya - works fine.
2016-04-08T19:42:32 < emeb> funny - there's an unpopulated "PMOD CONNECTOR" on it for digilent pmods.
2016-04-08T19:42:49 < emeb> but it's 2.0mm pin pitch - pmods are actually 2.54 pitch, so useless.
2016-04-08T19:43:22 < dongs> sounds pro
2016-04-08T19:43:36 < emeb> grab all their appnotes
2016-04-08T19:43:53 < dongs> yeah, on the way
2016-04-08T19:44:02 < emeb> while writing test code discovered that the verilog instantiation for the on-chip 10kHz osc provides the wrong port names.
2016-04-08T19:44:18 < ds2> what tool chain?
2016-04-08T19:44:23 < emeb> icecube2
2016-04-08T19:44:35 < ds2> that's the lattice one, right?
2016-04-08T19:44:50 < emeb> the appnote says CLKLF_EN and CLKLF_PU but the names are really CLKLFEN and CLKLFPU
2016-04-08T19:45:01 < emeb> yes - the official lattice tools
2016-04-08T19:45:11 < dongs> more like CLKFUUUUU
2016-04-08T19:45:20 < emeb> heh
2016-04-08T19:45:49 < emeb> they provide windows and linux installs for that
2016-04-08T19:46:00 < emeb> but the linux binaries are 32-bit OS only
2016-04-08T19:46:16 < emeb> and refuse to run on 64-bit even if you have the compatibility libs installed.
2016-04-08T19:47:07 < emeb> wrapper app actually checks uname and aborts if it doesn't see the string it expects
2016-04-08T19:51:20 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Lattice%20Semi%20Photos/ICE5LP4K-B-EVN.JPG heh wheer the fuc is the actual chip
2016-04-08T19:51:24 < dongs> that FTDI thing is huEG
2016-04-08T19:51:55 < emeb> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/0407160940.jpg
2016-04-08T19:52:05 < emeb> where the arrow points
2016-04-08T19:52:10 < dongs> they needed an arrow  to point to it
2016-04-08T19:52:12 < dongs> or else you'd miss it
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2016-04-08T19:52:37 < dongs> is RGB led actually BRG?
2016-04-08T19:52:41 < emeb> yes
2016-04-08T19:52:54 < emeb> individual LED chips, not WSxxx
2016-04-08T19:53:05 < dongs> yea i can seee that from the board
2016-04-08T19:54:07 < dongs> You should install the following software before you begin developing designs for the board:
2016-04-08T19:54:15 < emeb> seems that all their USB download HW uses that FT2232 chip
2016-04-08T19:54:26 < emeb> but only uses like 5 of the pins
2016-04-08T19:54:39 < dongs> is the programmer shit still separate  downlaod
2016-04-08T19:54:48 < dongs> i dont see "diamong programmer" shit on theri page
2016-04-08T19:54:49 < ds2> is it used as dumb jtag?
2016-04-08T19:55:04 < emeb> ice stuff is SPI only
2016-04-08T19:55:06 < emeb> not jtag
2016-04-08T19:55:08 < dongs> ds2: seems like it would be as dumb spi
2016-04-08T19:55:09 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-08T19:55:11 < emeb> and it's bitbanged IIRC
2016-04-08T19:55:18 < dongs> lol thats awful
2016-04-08T19:55:23 < dongs> isnt theree some FTDI with hardware SPI shit
2016-04-08T19:55:26 < emeb> bitbang spi over USB - very slow.
2016-04-08T19:55:26 < dongs> in a much smaller package, too
2016-04-08T19:56:28 < jpa-> emeb: hm, does it have to be slow? ftdi has fifo for stuff like that i think
2016-04-08T19:56:50 < zyp> MPSSE is supposed to do it rather fast
2016-04-08T19:56:59 < zyp> but idk how it's implemented
2016-04-08T19:57:15 < emeb> jpa-: dunno exactly what they're doing, but it takes a good 20s to load up the config
2016-04-08T19:57:35 < jpa-> then they are doing something wrong :)
2016-04-08T19:57:50 < jpa-> unless the eeprom chip is slooow
2016-04-08T19:57:53 < dongs> thats not bad
2016-04-08T19:58:09 < jpa-> emeb: is that loading to fpga ram or to eeprom chip?
2016-04-08T19:58:27 < dongs> i wrote xvsf player using mpeg>usb chip where I could only bitbang by sending one usb control request to toggle any gpio
2016-04-08T19:58:33 < dongs> it took like 3 minutes to program in 8k cpld
2016-04-08T19:58:39 < emeb> jpa-: loading to ram
2016-04-08T19:58:48 < zyp> haha
2016-04-08T19:58:52 < jpa-> emeb: yeah, sounds slow then :)
2016-04-08T19:59:07 < zyp> my waveshare fpga shit loads pretty fast
2016-04-08T19:59:28 < emeb> jpa-: part of that could be app / os / driver delays - it takes a good 5s before the previous config halts...
2016-04-08T19:59:33 < jpa-> in one work project they have lunix so like hundreds of megs of stuff; and only route to external world is 19200 bps; but fortunately linux will never have bugs so no need to update
2016-04-08T20:02:59 < dongs> so the lattice diamond trash is just active-HDL + symplify or whatever?
2016-04-08T20:03:05 < dongs> and some lattice-made GUI to shit them togehter?
2016-04-08T20:05:24 < dongs> TCL is mentioned :(
2016-04-08T20:05:28 < dongs>  k bedtime
2016-04-08T20:05:30 < jpa-> all fpga stuff talks tcl
2016-04-08T20:05:35 < jpa-> because tcl is the language of gods
2016-04-08T20:06:03 < dongs> i think you meant "tools"
2016-04-08T20:06:14 < emeb> heh
2016-04-08T20:06:38 < emeb> because tcl was what they used at Berkeley when all the EDA foundations were being laid.
2016-04-08T20:06:49 < emeb> 30 years ago.
2016-04-08T20:07:29 < zyp> shame fpga tools are still as shitty as they were 30 years ago
2016-04-08T20:08:06 < emeb> speaking as someone who has used EDA for a... long... time, they are getting a lot better.
2016-04-08T20:08:19  * emeb shakes cane at the juveniles on his greensward
2016-04-08T20:08:24 < zyp> :)
2016-04-08T20:08:26 < dongs> yeah, but you actually use geda
2016-04-08T20:08:31 < zyp> haha
2016-04-08T20:08:38 < ds2> does the official tool require you to be online to validate a license?
2016-04-08T20:08:56 < dongs> diamond sems to use flexlm
2016-04-08T20:09:11 < emeb> dongs: I started out on HILO back in 1988 - precursor to Verilog.
2016-04-08T20:09:16 < dongs> so no
2016-04-08T20:09:58 < ds2> dongs: but then you have to go ask for the .lic file?
2016-04-08T20:10:16 < ds2> which probally expires after a year?
2016-04-08T20:10:19 < emeb> yeah - you have to request a license.dat file. but they send it to you automatically / immediately.
2016-04-08T20:10:24 < dongs> ds2: right
2016-04-08T20:10:26 < ds2> blah
2016-04-08T20:10:30 < ds2> nonstarter
2016-04-08T20:10:32 < dongs> http://www.latticesemi.com/licenseprocessing/flexlmlicense.cfm?p=icecube&api=true
2016-04-08T20:10:38 < dongs> lol ds2 and his fucking closedsores paranoia
2016-04-08T20:10:43 < dongs> what, youre gonna be offline for a year?
2016-04-08T20:10:48 < ds2> no
2016-04-08T20:10:58 < ds2> I don't care to have my IP locked up because their marketing changes their mind
2016-04-08T20:11:04 < emeb> ds2: you can use FOSS icestorm tools for the LP/HX families
2016-04-08T20:11:05 < dongs> loll...
2016-04-08T20:11:12 < dongs> your sores will not go anywehre
2016-04-08T20:11:17 < dongs> and bitstream files dont expire
2016-04-08T20:11:24 < ds2> dongs: I went with OrCAD cuz they are willing to provide a dongle option
2016-04-08T20:11:24 < dongs> and yeah, worst case, you can ghetto up some opensauce shit
2016-04-08T20:11:37 < ds2> I need to be able to modify my IP
2016-04-08T20:11:40 < jpa-> well, consider that one can no longer get a toolchain to update code for ICE65
2016-04-08T20:11:45 < jpa-> and that is only a few years old
2016-04-08T20:11:53 < emeb> I'm curious as to whether the icestorm team is looking at supporting the Ultra parts.
2016-04-08T20:11:56 < emeb> that would rule.
2016-04-08T20:11:57 < ds2> emeb: *nod* that's the only thing that makes this FPGA worth considering
2016-04-08T20:12:21 < ds2> xilinx/microsemi is a nonstarter cuz of that expiring license
2016-04-08T20:12:23 < jpa-> so if one is serious about being able to update product code some years later, such license crap is a real problem
2016-04-08T20:12:29 < emeb> ds2: downside of the HX/LP parts is that the smallest non-bga part is a tqfp144
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2016-04-08T20:12:53 < ds2> emeb: I am willing to take on bga... 0.4mm, IIRC
2016-04-08T20:13:07 < emeb> ds2: then you should be fine
2016-04-08T20:13:28 < emeb> they have a QFN84 - but it's double-row pads
2016-04-08T20:13:29 < dongs> [ ]  I verify that I am not an employee of Cadence Design Systems, Mentor Graphics Corporation, or Magma Design Automation
2016-04-08T20:13:32 < ds2> emeb: microsemi had some very nice parts up until they required annual license renewal
2016-04-08T20:13:32 < dongs> haha why?
2016-04-08T20:13:49 < emeb> industrial espionage!
2016-04-08T20:13:49 < dongs> racist lattice?
2016-04-08T20:13:55 < ds2> emeb: those are all fine from my point of view
2016-04-08T20:14:36 < emeb> the ice5 parts come in a plain QFN48 - I've got a breakout for that in the fab now.
2016-04-08T20:14:48 < ds2> open source don't matter.... being locked out of my own designs does
2016-04-08T20:14:49 < dongs> yeah thats what i picked up
2016-04-08T20:14:51 < emeb> anything denser than that I can't do.
2016-04-08T20:14:59 < dongs> and that breakout thing.
2016-04-08T20:15:04 < ds2> emeb: CM's aren't that expensive
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2016-04-08T20:15:32 < emeb> ds2: don't want to have to deal with a CM for prototypes & hobby stuff.
2016-04-08T20:16:07 < ds2> emeb: no working relationship with one that handles small/rprotoruns?
2016-04-08T20:16:18 < emeb> ds2: nah
2016-04-08T20:16:28 < dongs> hah aardvarfk spi
2016-04-08T20:16:32 < dongs> i acutally have TI's clone of that
2016-04-08T20:16:39 < dongs> wonder if it'll be faster than onboard ftdi for flashing shit
2016-04-08T20:16:51 < emeb> dongs: you want my diptrace for the breakout?
2016-04-08T20:17:10 < dongs> emeb: nah, im gonna dick with evalboard for prototype and stick qfn48 into final design
2016-04-08T20:17:26 < dongs> no need for actual 48pin breakout since i only need like 10 i/o s
2016-04-08T20:17:39 < emeb> kk
2016-04-08T20:18:45 < ds2> emeb: u using diptrace?
2016-04-08T20:18:58 < emeb> ds2: yeah - for some newer stuff.
2016-04-08T20:19:05 < dongs> im bummed my 2.x license no longer wokrs wiht 3.x :(
2016-04-08T20:19:05 < emeb> haven't used gEDA for a while.
2016-04-08T20:19:12 < dongs> emeb: thats probly a good thing
2016-04-08T20:19:39 < emeb> seems that the gEDA folks are losing interest in that toolchain. KiCAD is the new hotness.
2016-04-08T20:20:01 < emeb> Considering that the PCB layout tool is based on source originally written for the Atari ST...
2016-04-08T20:20:34 < emeb> dongs: I bought the diptrace 3.0 update
2016-04-08T20:20:36 < emeb> $99
2016-04-08T20:20:40 < dongs> o yea?
2016-04-08T20:20:45 < emeb> haven't installed it yet tho.
2016-04-08T20:20:46 < dongs> from full->3.0?
2016-04-08T20:20:49 < emeb> ya
2016-04-08T20:21:25 < emeb> my clients who use diptrace are still on 2.x though, so no immediate need for it.
2016-04-08T20:21:37 < ds2> emeb: do you know how well the eagle importer works?
2016-04-08T20:21:54 < dongs> i hope it doesnt
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2016-04-08T20:21:56 < emeb> ds2: I've never tried it. Don't have any eagle designs.
2016-04-08T20:22:14 < ds2> doh
2016-04-08T20:22:17 < dongs> emeb: sounds like you got standard version
2016-04-08T20:22:26 < dongs> ds2, afaik it makes you run some oepnsauce .ulp
2016-04-08T20:22:32 < dongs> and just outputs dicktrace ascii
2016-04-08T20:22:32 < emeb> dongs: yeah - 4L / 1k pins IIRC
2016-04-08T20:22:37 < dongs> meh
2016-04-08T20:22:39 < ds2> does the diptrace licensing model let you import any design size for viewing?
2016-04-08T20:22:47 < dongs> ds2, yeah
2016-04-08T20:22:59 < dongs> you can even troll the pincount thing just by coppasting
2016-04-08T20:23:10 < dongs> there's no size limitations on pcb in any version.
2016-04-08T20:23:18 < dongs> just pins/layers
2016-04-08T20:23:18 < ds2> dongs: so I can import a ``large'' eagle design and use it to generate 3D models with the smallest license?
2016-04-08T20:23:25 < dongs> yes
2016-04-08T20:23:27 < ds2> large == large pin counts
2016-04-08T20:23:46 < ds2> might be worth it as a better MCAD integration tool
2016-04-08T20:24:01 < dongs> they did finalyl add a .step exporter
2016-04-08T20:24:17 < dongs> but  their insistenc on using vrml/wrl shit for model data is pretty rage inducing
2016-04-08T20:24:25 < dongs> cuz theres no proper .step->that converter that waorks
2016-04-08T20:24:49 < dongs> wings3d or somesthing is some aids wehree you cant even model anything
2016-04-08T20:24:59 < dongs> i think i tried some freetard converter before and it made shitty stuff
2016-04-08T20:25:08 < ds2> component models needs to be VRML only?
2016-04-08T20:25:13 < dongs> its .WRL
2016-04-08T20:25:19 < dongs> or wahtever, yeah i think its some vrml thing
2016-04-08T20:25:20 < ds2> dongs: hmm? .step to anything is easy
2016-04-08T20:25:26 < dongs> using what?
2016-04-08T20:25:35 < ds2> oh that kills it... vendors usually provide .step or .igs
2016-04-08T20:25:40 < ds2> almost any MCAD software
2016-04-08T20:25:51 < ds2> Rhino, ALibre, solidworks, proe, etc
2016-04-08T20:26:00 < dongs> 3dcontentcentral can export as wrl
2016-04-08T20:26:04 < ds2> or even freecad
2016-04-08T20:26:05 < dongs> and that works with dicktrace
2016-04-08T20:26:14 < dongs> but its a ~website~
2016-04-08T20:26:25 < dongs> you'd have a heart attack that you ahve eto connect online to convert a model :p
2016-04-08T20:26:27 < ds2> I don't want to be converting formats around :( I can do that with eagle mostly
2016-04-08T20:27:07 < dongs> pretty sure there's some 3d trash for eagle
2016-04-08T20:27:11 < dongs> using povray or something
2016-04-08T20:27:13 < ds2> don't think VRML is intended for MCAD
2016-04-08T20:27:24 < dongs> ya no idea why dicktrace chose that for models
2016-04-08T20:27:35 < ds2> no, povray is for visualization... there is the sketchup crap but that is horrible for mcad use
2016-04-08T20:27:39 < emeb> because russia
2016-04-08T20:27:53 < dongs> maybe they had some free delphi library for loading that shit
2016-04-08T20:27:56 < ds2> the one that kind of works is the SAT coverter.... but eagle doesn't handle components
2016-04-08T20:28:18 < emeb> yeah - that delphi codebase. so pro
2016-04-08T20:28:50 < dongs> almost as pro as altium
2016-04-08T20:29:04 < emeb> lol
2016-04-08T20:30:49 < ds2> iirc, rhino can output vrml just donno what details can get corrupted in the conversion
2016-04-08T20:31:00 < dongs> a lot
2016-04-08T20:31:11 < dongs> usually most models from 3dcontentcentral into dicktrace just ended up looking gray
2016-04-08T20:32:55 < ds2> blah
2016-04-08T20:34:03 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/sl3zzB2.png hmm i dont have any dgood example of dicktrace 3d render
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2016-04-08T20:37:16 < emeb> needs moar pink
2016-04-08T20:38:40 < scrts> sup lads?
2016-04-08T20:40:24 < emeb> dongs: test code for RGB driver -> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/test.v
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2016-04-08T22:00:55 < Thorn> Polan won't remove my VAT :/
2016-04-08T22:03:00 < inca> hmmm... my USB device driver does not seem to be calling the CDC init...
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2016-04-08T22:08:10 < Thorn> I asked nicely and said 'please'.
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2016-04-08T22:31:43 < inca> what the... why would commented code still get compiled?
2016-04-08T22:32:44 < Thorn> new code not compiled or not linked or not flashed
2016-04-08T22:33:04 < inca> it's compiled, linked, and executed
2016-04-08T22:33:18 < inca> debugger is breaking in a subcall
2016-04-08T22:36:54 < inca> oh for the sake of...
2016-04-08T22:37:17 < inca> wrong .elf targeted in debug config... I've been hacking at the wrong codebase for 2 hrs
2016-04-08T22:39:13 < inca> now a composite device shows up
2016-04-08T22:39:14 < inca> yay!
2016-04-08T22:49:11 < inca> Now I just need the driver inf to get that to be my CDC
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2016-04-08T23:36:07 < karlp> emeb: in that ice5lp test.v file, how ar eyou setting the pwm for the leds? aren't thos ejust single bits?
2016-04-08T23:36:18 < karlp> I guess I should look at the LEDD hardip docs...
2016-04-08T23:36:48 < emeb> karlp: the hard IP has dedicated pins so no constraints needed.
2016-04-08T23:37:03 < emeb> and I am just driving them with logic levels from the state vector
2016-04-08T23:38:49 < emeb> the ice5lp4k doesn't have PWM IP core like the smaller parts do.
2016-04-08T23:52:37 < karlp> oh, I hadn't evne thought about constraints :) I've got an icestick on my desk, that's as far as I've gotten, just following along
2016-04-08T23:54:13 < karlp> no cofidence and parliament dissolutions votes were fun today.  had members of the governmet take their turn to talk as they voted, declared that it was time to go to an election, that the party should renew it's mandate, butttttt still going to vote according to party leadership and stay here.
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2016-04-09T00:08:18 < Getty> http://www.amazon.de/Notebook-mit-Tastatur-aus-Schokolade/dp/B007H6POYW/ "Notebook with chocolate keyboard"
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2016-04-09T01:53:52 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: http://static.ylilauta.org/files/wb/orig/az9r9vya/cuck.jpg
2016-04-09T01:59:52 < Laurenceb_> old image is old
2016-04-09T02:02:28 < kakimir> trigger'd
2016-04-09T02:02:50 < kakimir> let's do some stuff Laurenceb_
2016-04-09T02:03:16 < Laurenceb_> STOP TRIGGERING ME
2016-04-09T02:03:23  * Laurenceb_ goes to his safe space
2016-04-09T02:04:00 < BrainDamage> where rockoons fly past the karman line, and land by hot air ballutes
2016-04-09T02:04:40 < BrainDamage> and the chase team travels by concrete ducted trains
2016-04-09T02:06:07 < kakimir> hmm
2016-04-09T02:06:11 < kakimir> nice profecy
2016-04-09T02:06:42 < kakimir> *prophecy
2016-04-09T02:08:26 < Laurenceb_> yup that describes it exactly
2016-04-09T02:19:37 < Laurenceb_> turns out Mouser 789-P3A-201005U works perfectly with SP!ML eval boards
2016-04-09T02:19:49 < Laurenceb_> well almost perfectly, needs a little trimming internally
2016-04-09T02:19:54 < Laurenceb_> *SP1ML
2016-04-09T02:20:49 < Laurenceb_> I've also drilled a couple of holes and plugged with epoxy to act as light pipes for the LEDs
2016-04-09T02:27:25 < kakimir> movie recomds?
2016-04-09T02:42:48 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox
2016-04-09T02:51:10 < Laurenceb_> seriously wut
2016-04-09T02:51:11 < Laurenceb_> https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/04/08/2054220/clinton-campaign-chair-the-american-people-can-handle-the-truth-on-ufos
2016-04-09T02:51:41 < Laurenceb_> this    https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8970369&cid=51871807
2016-04-09T02:51:50 < Getty> yeah, thats one way to get traction ;)
2016-04-09T02:53:31 < Laurenceb_> it's like _all_ the candidates have gone insane
2016-04-09T02:57:55 < Laurenceb_> attn kakimir: http://imgur.com/KLNiPLu
2016-04-09T02:58:01 < Laurenceb_> typical Finnish scene
2016-04-09T02:58:37 < kakimir> what is going on there?
2016-04-09T02:59:06 < Laurenceb_> Refugee with his waifu
2016-04-09T02:59:20 < Laurenceb_> pedobear approves
2016-04-09T03:01:55 < kakimir> I see waifus
2016-04-09T03:02:07 < Laurenceb_> 2 waifu for the price of one
2016-04-09T03:02:34 < Laurenceb_> kakimir, /hebe/ is that way
2016-04-09T03:02:44 < kakimir> Laurenceb_ said it
2016-04-09T03:02:46 < kakimir> not me
2016-04-09T03:04:06 < Laurenceb_> >Parents reaction"We dont give a shit"
2016-04-09T03:04:06 < Laurenceb_> true libertarians
2016-04-09T03:04:14 < Laurenceb_> riding the trollercoaster
2016-04-09T03:04:17 < kakimir> where it says?
2016-04-09T03:04:44 < Getty> first bong, then cookie
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2016-04-09T03:10:48 < Laurenceb_> ok enough /b/ for now
2016-04-09T03:16:40 < kakimir> you must be joking
2016-04-09T03:26:43 < Laurenceb_> need high res spacex photos
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2016-04-09T04:07:57 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV48f5D6kBY
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2016-04-09T04:44:48 < aandrew> hm
2016-04-09T04:44:59 < aandrew> this usb device code in cubemx seems to correctly set things up
2016-04-09T04:45:11 < aandrew> I get a pcd interrupt signifying usb suspend then never get another interrupt
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2016-04-09T05:09:26 < emeb_mac> everyone is leaving. so ronery
2016-04-09T05:15:20 < dongs> mousederr shipped
2016-04-09T05:16:28 < dongs> emeb_mac: damn, i understand like 5 lines out of that
2016-04-09T05:16:30 < dongs> im so fucked.
2016-04-09T05:17:14 < emeb_mac> dongs: you'll get it - it's easy
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2016-04-09T05:20:33 < dongs> also does it really have some kinda "led driver" IP?
2016-04-09T05:21:11 < emeb_mac> dongs: yes - it has a high-current LED driver hooked to specific I/O pins
2016-04-09T05:22:07 < emeb_mac> but you have to provide inputs to that IP core - that's what that SB_RGB_DRV module does
2016-04-09T05:26:01 < dongs> hm i dont get it
2016-04-09T05:26:08 < dongs> state[] is 3 bits for each led
2016-04-09T05:26:23 < emeb_mac> dongs: no
2016-04-09T05:26:27 < dongs> isnt it?
2016-04-09T05:26:33 < emeb_mac> the high-current driver is just one bit each
2016-04-09T05:26:43 < dongs> right, just on/off?
2016-04-09T05:26:47 < emeb_mac> yes
2016-04-09T05:26:58 < dongs> right. and youre making fakepwm but whatis with state += 3
2016-04-09T05:27:23 < emeb_mac> state[2:0] is just 3 bits
2016-04-09T05:27:32 < emeb_mac> I'm not doing PWM - just on/off
2016-04-09T05:27:43 < emeb_mac> picking each bit off for R/G/B
2016-04-09T05:28:19 < dongs> does += 3 just roll the thing with  one bit off ?
2016-04-09T05:28:50 < emeb_mac> state <= state + 3'd1 doesn't me +3
2016-04-09T05:28:58 < emeb_mac> it means + 1
2016-04-09T05:29:12 < dongs> huh how?
2016-04-09T05:29:14 < emeb_mac> 3 bits, radix decimal, value 1
2016-04-09T05:29:25 < emeb_mac> '3 d 1
2016-04-09T05:29:31 < dongs> oh sigh..
2016-04-09T05:29:43 < emeb_mac> it's verilog's way of describing a bit vector constant
2016-04-09T05:30:56 < emeb_mac> so that statement is just incrementing the register
2016-04-09T05:31:39 < dongs> but why dos it need to be explicit
2016-04-09T05:31:45 < dongs> just  + 1 doesnt work?
2016-04-09T05:32:19 < emeb_mac> dongs: usually it does work
2016-04-09T05:32:27 < emeb_mac> I'm just being pedantic. :)
2016-04-09T05:32:43 < emeb_mac> verilog constants default to 32 bits if you don't specify
2016-04-09T05:33:03 < emeb_mac> and any extra bits beyond the vector that you're adding to are ignored.
2016-04-09T05:33:10 < emeb_mac> so +1 would work in this case.
2016-04-09T05:54:08 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/dvkIxy6.jpg zyp spotted
2016-04-09T06:03:03 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Manufacture-Product-Signage/
2016-04-09T06:03:54 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Build-Raspberry-device-that-detects/
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2016-04-09T07:01:57 < ReadError> where is the skimmer guy
2016-04-09T07:03:33 < dongs> still there
2016-04-09T07:03:37 < ReadError> link?
2016-04-09T07:03:39 < ReadError> not seen
2016-04-09T07:04:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Data-capture-Microcontroller-EEprom-10162387/
2016-04-09T07:05:01 < dongs> he keeps reposting it
2016-04-09T07:05:05 < dongs> for the 7th time
2016-04-09T07:06:28 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/techsyn6.html thats his profile but boring
2016-04-09T07:06:39 < ReadError> lol\
2016-04-09T07:06:58 < lorenzo> "And you must care about the purpose of the project. doesn't matter to YOU what it's used for."
2016-04-09T07:07:00 < ReadError> I like how he doesnt have a design yet has to use certain parts?
2016-04-09T07:07:02 < lorenzo> eh?
2016-04-09T07:07:22 < dongs> lorenzo: previous posts he said must NOT care
2016-04-09T07:07:31 < dongs> duno why its gone in this one
2016-04-09T07:07:31 < ReadError> Use: PIC18F24K22 or other part # thinnest package [url removed, login to view] No bigger.
2016-04-09T07:07:55 < dongs> Use: PIC18F24K22 or other part # thinnest package 0.5mm No bigger.
2016-04-09T07:07:57 < dongs> no url there
2016-04-09T07:08:43 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-09T07:08:53 < ReadError> must be regex for .***
2016-04-09T07:09:00 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-09T07:09:06 < dongs> tehy freelanced someone to develop thier url filter
2016-04-09T07:09:07 < dongs> and it shows
2016-04-09T07:11:26 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/microchip-technology/PIC18F24K22-I%2FML/PIC18F24K22-I%2FML-ND/2480356 just normal qfn wat
2016-04-09T07:28:03 < dongs> no
2016-04-09T07:28:11 < dongs> leave your pump at the door
2016-04-09T07:59:52 < dongs> so i was chattin to this jew on freelancer yesterday and hes like "I'll be back on sunday".
2016-04-09T08:49:56 < dongs> hopefully he's back its a $700 job for 5 minutes of work
2016-04-09T08:50:03 < dongs> ohsix should try freelancing
2016-04-09T08:50:12 < dongs> race to teh bottom, get some reviews, t hen start rolling in cash
2016-04-09T08:58:04 < dongs> you can refuse $700 for 5 mins of work if you want
2016-04-09T08:59:00 < dongs> well then get back on it
2016-04-09T08:59:16 < dongs> R2COM: do you have twitch
2016-04-09T08:59:24 < dongs> you should livestream yourself making a PCB in orcad
2016-04-09T08:59:30 < dongs> i've never seen pro orcad user do work
2016-04-09T08:59:37 < dongs> twitch = gaymer streaming shit
2016-04-09T09:00:26 < dongs> rea;;y
2016-04-09T09:00:31 < Thorn> https://www.livecoding.tv/
2016-04-09T09:00:31 < dongs> k linke me tos ome
2016-04-09T09:02:13 < dongs> wat the fuck @ that livestreaming
2016-04-09T09:02:17 < dongs> 1st video is some dude in mspaint
2016-04-09T09:02:20 < dongs> drawing some database shit
2016-04-09T09:02:23 < dongs> IN MSPAINT
2016-04-09T09:03:41 < dongs> oh god
2016-04-09T09:03:43 < dongs> that video
2016-04-09T09:03:49 < dongs> im like 1:00 in
2016-04-09T09:03:52 < dongs> "t o change foot print"
2016-04-09T09:03:56 < dongs> navigate to folder something what hte fuck
2016-04-09T09:04:26 < dongs> ummmmmmmmmmmmm
2016-04-09T09:04:38 < dongs> why should i *ever* leave EDA app to find a footprint
2016-04-09T09:05:05 < dongs> can you not visually pick a footprint
2016-04-09T09:05:16 < dongs> dude that looks fucking terrible
2016-04-09T09:05:25 < dongs> 2.45 minutes in
2016-04-09T09:05:28 < dongs> he hasnt done anything useful
2016-04-09T09:06:08 < dongs> R2COM: then link me to a USEFUL orcad video
2016-04-09T09:06:14 < dongs> all the ones I've seen so far are fucking awful
2016-04-09T09:06:16 < dongs> like this guys vid
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2016-04-09T09:07:27 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJHwKAuH-gg lol
2016-04-09T09:08:01 < dongs> > 43 minutes
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2016-04-09T09:08:28 < dongs> viet shit pc
2016-04-09T09:08:33 < dongs> anyway R2COM link me to pro orcad use video
2016-04-09T09:08:43 < dongs> like some guy actually doing something cool
2016-04-09T09:08:54 < dongs> not just some idiot alt-tabbing between shitty UI and filemanager
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2016-04-09T09:12:14 < dongs> dude
2016-04-09T09:12:19 < dongs> i cant evne figrue out what to do with it
2016-04-09T09:12:23 < dongs> there's like 500 different apps
2016-04-09T09:13:53 < Thorn> https://www.livecoding.tv/videos/?q=pcb
2016-04-09T09:14:15 < dongs> haha pcb edits with kikecad
2016-04-09T09:15:53 < dongs> haha
2016-04-09T09:15:54 < dongs> no
2016-04-09T09:15:56 < dongs> pros sleep in
2016-04-09T09:15:58 < dongs> and work from home
2016-04-09T09:16:00 < dongs> and make millions
2016-04-09T09:16:28 < dongs> im agreeing wiht ohsix here
2016-04-09T09:16:36 < dongs> < R2COM> pros sit in office and get shit done
2016-04-09T09:16:38 < dongs> < ohsix> but you can't find any evidence of that on the internet
2016-04-09T09:16:45 < dongs> show me evidence of orcad pro usage
2016-04-09T09:16:56 < dongs> or im gonna take a nap
2016-04-09T09:17:09 < dongs> yes, where's your twitch.tv
2016-04-09T09:17:14 < dongs> lets see you use it for an hour
2016-04-09T09:19:44 < dongs> ya
2016-04-09T09:20:12 < dongs> like rarely. when Im doing non-NDA altidong stuff
2016-04-09T09:21:40 < dongs> anyway, nap time
2016-04-09T09:22:08 < dongs> R2COM: i picked up lattice icecube thing
2016-04-09T09:22:18 < dongs> gonna write some nasty verilog for dmx junk
2016-04-09T09:22:24 < emeb_mac> cubed and squared
2016-04-09T09:22:36 < dongs> its gonna be awful
2016-04-09T09:22:45 < emeb_mac> dongs will be a verilog god
2016-04-09T09:22:49 < dongs> and maybe some junk to mix mpeg transport stream packets
2016-04-09T09:22:52 < dongs> emeb_mac: no way.
2016-04-09T09:22:55 < dongs> i dont get it at all
2016-04-09T09:23:09 < dongs> ive tried seveeral years on and off to try and make sense of it, i just cant
2016-04-09T09:23:57 < dongs> too much assburgers i guess.
2016-04-09T09:23:59 < dongs> k naptime
2016-04-09T09:24:46 < Thorn> screw Dave destroying gear for fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9ChhjOKyLA
2016-04-09T09:25:04 < Thorn> >Children in Africa could have eaten that multimeter ;_;
2016-04-09T09:25:09 < Thorn> I could have too
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2016-04-09T09:44:10 < lorenzo> http://i.imgur.com/loBTEpJ.png lol using the ublox configurator feels like some space mission control room
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2016-04-09T09:55:49 < Thorn> that phrase would've been better with a "by"
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2016-04-09T10:33:33 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/ijCkB77.jpg
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2016-04-09T10:48:42 < upgrdman> nice jap programming books https://imgur.com/a/iRFxO
2016-04-09T10:51:00 < upgrdman> much less kawaii here in shanghai
2016-04-09T10:51:18 < upgrdman> lol no
2016-04-09T10:51:22 < upgrdman> link plz
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2016-04-09T11:08:43 < ReadError> ur an odd ass guy crt
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2016-04-09T11:10:03 < ReadError> not sure I would want to
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2016-04-09T11:21:06 < upgrdman> so i know this sounds like a joke, but srsly, anyone know of a tool for finding memory leaks in java shits?
2016-04-09T11:22:27 < upgrdman> my my swing app eats like 20MB per minute
2016-04-09T11:22:55 < upgrdman> i think i might be somejow keep references to old gui widgets or someshit
2016-04-09T11:23:11 < upgrdman> and im too lazy to fix my shit gui
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2016-04-09T11:24:08 < upgrdman> and its an internal tool, so "this app requires a modern pc" is fine but i feel bad
2016-04-09T11:24:35 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-09T11:31:02 < upgrdman> https://angel.co/good-co/jobs/115677-senor-ruby-on-rails-engineer?utm_campaign=talent&utm_content=promote_jobs_box-listing&utm_medium=al_tweet&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=good-co
2016-04-09T11:31:09 < upgrdman> lol, señor
2016-04-09T11:33:59 < lorenzo> I wonder why all programming job listings these days seems to be written by people stuck between childhood and adolescence
2016-04-09T11:34:09 < lorenzo> like, "superman", "rockstar dev"
2016-04-09T11:34:15 < lorenzo> and shitty jokes
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2016-04-09T11:42:56 < zyp> heating?
2016-04-09T11:43:06 < zyp> it's pretty cold outside
2016-04-09T11:44:09 < zyp> sure, you didn't specify 7.8MWh of electricity
2016-04-09T11:44:43 < zyp> heh, that's around a megawatt average
2016-04-09T11:45:17 < zyp> sounds unreasonably high if it's not for heating
2016-04-09T11:45:24 < zyp> considering all the dissipated power goes to heat
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2016-04-09T11:48:22 < zyp> oh, right, 787 has that no-bleed system
2016-04-09T11:48:27 < zyp> so heating is probably electrical
2016-04-09T11:50:39 < BrainDamage> even assuming each seat has a giant tv that drains 100W, that's 200*100W = 200kW, 1MW sounds really a tad high
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2016-04-09T11:56:42 < BrainDamage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvHbXoNFMz4
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2016-04-09T11:57:10 < BrainDamage> ops, wrong channel, well, still works
2016-04-09T11:59:20 < BrainDamage> last link givs me a not found
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2016-04-09T12:01:38 < BrainDamage> 20kW
2016-04-09T12:01:48 < BrainDamage> fuck i just noticed
2016-04-09T12:01:56 < BrainDamage> still drives the point further
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2016-04-09T12:08:35 < dongs> i havent updated in a wahile, i think the cat gotten bigger
2016-04-09T12:21:36 < upgrdman> does hobbyking have parametric search for servos? i want low profile std size, very fast, with decent torque
2016-04-09T12:22:10 < PeterM> nope
2016-04-09T12:22:33 < PeterM> however,m check otu this website http://www.rcdetails.info/
2016-04-09T12:22:35 < upgrdman> hmm
2016-04-09T12:22:52 < upgrdman> this could take a while then to probe their list
2016-04-09T12:22:58 < upgrdman> k
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2016-04-09T13:25:06 < ReadError> oh ya i been meaning to dl vinyl
2016-04-09T13:25:40 < ReadError> ok
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2016-04-09T13:39:06 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/zpnhL33.png
2016-04-09T13:39:09 < ReadError> got a lil black in me
2016-04-09T13:39:38 < ReadError> my DNA
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2016-04-09T13:43:08 < ReadError> ohsix they let you DL the raw data
2016-04-09T13:43:40 < ReadError> im not sure, would need to check
2016-04-09T13:45:19 < ReadError> ohsix https://www.23andme.com/ancestry_composition_guide/
2016-04-09T13:46:01 < ReadError> yea the shit it found is pretty accurate
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2016-04-09T13:49:11 < ReadError> hey crt quit being unfunny
2016-04-09T13:50:36 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor
2016-04-09T13:59:37 < karlp> because they're mad
2016-04-09T13:59:46 < karlp> alllll the links in the world are broken.
2016-04-09T14:00:00 < karlp> all the published links on stlinks, all the printed links on packaging, allllll busted
2016-04-09T14:00:42 < jpa-> it's called progress
2016-04-09T14:02:53 < ReadError> crt you sound like you swagjacked dongs' style
2016-04-09T14:07:45 < dongs> hello stoners
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2016-04-09T14:08:11 < dongs> lol parametric searcxh on hobbyking
2016-04-09T14:08:59 < dongs> is it routed by stm32 or something
2016-04-09T14:09:04 < dongs> trying to udnerstand how its relevant to this channel
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2016-04-09T14:16:10 < dongs> ohsix can do it
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2016-04-09T14:31:47 < dongs> probably a good thing
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2016-04-09T14:34:21 < BrainDamage> why even idling the channel if he blocks a decent fraction of active users
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2016-04-09T14:39:48 < Steffann> crt: a ban will work too ;)
2016-04-09T14:40:34 < Steffann> it fits the "and leave for good" part
2016-04-09T14:40:53 < Steffann> no you couldnt
2016-04-09T14:41:06 < Steffann> better pump it up
2016-04-09T14:42:03 < Steffann> isnt aussieland all in sleep around this time?
2016-04-09T14:43:50 < Steffann> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfVxpXa-eP0 time to riot Laurenceb
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2016-04-09T14:45:59 < dongs> you must be in shitaustralia
2016-04-09T14:46:04 < dongs> its like past midnight in o  ther places
2016-04-09T14:46:14 < dongs> hm or not
2016-04-09T14:46:16 < dongs> weird
2016-04-09T14:46:27 < dongs> 11:50 latest
2016-04-09T14:46:51 < dongs> why the fuck is there GMT+:30 in australia
2016-04-09T14:46:52 < PeterM> dongs you didnt see my sick link
2016-04-09T14:46:58 < dongs> no, retweet it
2016-04-09T14:47:10 < dongs> < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor
2016-04-09T14:47:15 < dongs> this>
2016-04-09T14:47:16 < PeterM> nah oen before thta
2016-04-09T14:47:22 < dongs> rcdetails?
2016-04-09T14:47:24 < PeterM> er
2016-04-09T14:47:25 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-09T14:47:46 < PeterM> you might like
2016-04-09T14:47:50 < PeterM> *shrug*
2016-04-09T14:48:16 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-09T14:48:18 < dongs> pretty neat
2016-04-09T14:53:47 < dongs> i had to pay like $.23/socket for 200 of those FCI usb shits
2016-04-09T14:53:53 < dongs> because all chinese trash had long leads
2016-04-09T14:54:12 < dongs> 87520-0010BLF
2016-04-09T14:55:09 < dongs> good thing I read <title> before teh rest of video loaded
2016-04-09T14:55:11 < dongs> insta-closed
2016-04-09T14:56:59 < dongs> wanna see fail soldering check out ben heck
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2016-04-09T14:57:08 < dongs> e14 shill
2016-04-09T14:57:56 < dongs> do you get strikes for trolling in jewtube comments
2016-04-09T14:59:52 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-09T14:59:57 < PeterM> you can troll as much as you want
2016-04-09T15:03:24 < jadew> <dongs> why the fuck is there GMT+:30 in australia
2016-04-09T15:03:30 < jadew> because stupid
2016-04-09T15:08:59 < dongs> just  do "time in australia" on google
2016-04-09T15:09:03 < dongs> and theres liek 2 regions in :30 timezone
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2016-04-09T15:12:39 < BrainDamage> nepal has +45 because fuck you
2016-04-09T15:13:24 < BrainDamage> oh, straya too
2016-04-09T15:13:28 < BrainDamage> gj
2016-04-09T15:14:23 < dongs> 1 hour after glorious nipon
2016-04-09T15:14:33 < dongs> inferior
2016-04-09T15:14:37 < BrainDamage> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Standard_World_Time_Zones.png
2016-04-09T15:15:08 < BrainDamage> according to this you have +8 3/4, +9 30 and +10
2016-04-09T15:15:10 < PeterM> dingle depends on where in straya you arewe're both simultaneously living in hte past and living in the future
2016-04-09T15:15:12 < dongs> it must be so annoying to liev in a shit country wehre your clocks are different from everywhere else
2016-04-09T15:16:12 < dongs> hah north korea is :30 also
2016-04-09T15:16:13 < dongs> i didnt know
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2016-04-09T15:17:22 < dongs> all of china is +8 thats pretty impressive
2016-04-09T15:17:33 < dongs> thats communism for you
2016-04-09T15:18:38 < mitrax> what do you guys use as snubber circuitry to protect relays contacts when switching an inductive load?
2016-04-09T15:19:18 < BrainDamage> DR
2016-04-09T15:20:16 < BrainDamage> i think you mean snuff circuits
2016-04-09T15:20:39 < mitrax> ahaha
2016-04-09T15:20:42 < mitrax> DR?
2016-04-09T15:21:06 < BrainDamage> flywheel diode with a resistance in series to have the current settle faster
2016-04-09T15:21:51 < mitrax> well this is for the relay coil, i'm talking about the snubber circuit for the switched side
2016-04-09T15:22:37 < BrainDamage> is the relay input ac or dc?
2016-04-09T15:22:58 < BrainDamage> if it's dc, nothing forbids you to use the same shit
2016-04-09T15:23:07 < mitrax> it's Ac
2016-04-09T15:23:18 < PeterM> simple RC snubber is what i use, like 1n - 100R
2016-04-09T15:23:27 < BrainDamage> then RC is the simple one
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2016-04-09T15:24:38 < BrainDamage> you can do more advanced stuff with symmetric buckets with caps, but unless you have something exotic, rc will do most of the cases
2016-04-09T15:25:12 < mitrax> i'm asking because i read that RC snubbers are useless to prevent arcs but that's from a site that sells "arc suppressors"  :)
2016-04-09T15:26:07 < mitrax> probably not the most objective source, http://www.arcsuppressiontechnologies.com/arc-suppression-facts/the-snubber-myth/
2016-04-09T15:26:45 < mitrax> bah it won't be more than 1A i guess a RC should be fine
2016-04-09T15:26:46 < mitrax> thanks
2016-04-09T15:32:04 < mitrax> a bigass AC contactor
2016-04-09T15:33:24 < mitrax> get the stick! get the stick!
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2016-04-09T15:46:32 < mitrax> cvs: yeah a TVS is probably a good idea, thanks
2016-04-09T15:49:28 < Laurenceb_> for ECG front end I have R - TVS to GND - C - R - C - ADC
2016-04-09T15:50:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/1m7R7DD.jpg 3d dick for those w ho asked
2016-04-09T15:50:57 < Laurenceb_> wut?
2016-04-09T15:51:02 < Laurenceb_> dongs made a 3d printer?
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2016-04-09T15:51:14 < dongs> yeah cant you tell
2016-04-09T15:51:32 < Laurenceb_> I hope its not filament based?
2016-04-09T15:52:32 < dongs> of course it is
2016-04-09T15:52:35 < Laurenceb_> fail
2016-04-09T15:52:46 < Laurenceb_> filament deposition is mega lame
2016-04-09T15:53:07 < Laurenceb_> SLS is kind of useful
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2016-04-09T16:02:51 < dongs> k gona install icecube and see how much aids
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2016-04-09T16:08:03 < dongs> nope
2016-04-09T16:08:04 < dongs> iucecube
2016-04-09T16:08:08 < dongs> i did update stmcube the otehr day
2016-04-09T16:08:17 < dongs> got a bunch of new F7 parts in teh list so new you can't even see htem on digikey
2016-04-09T16:11:03 < Sync> amaze
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2016-04-09T16:24:42 < upgrdman> heh, another lolwut comment on one of my arduino videos
2016-04-09T16:24:45 < upgrdman> "Thank for information, please can help, as I receive information from a RFID-NFC reader that is connected to my Arduino Uno, and this information is displayed in a TextArea Java Netbeans or Eclipse"
2016-04-09T16:25:00 < dongs> please give codes
2016-04-09T16:25:41 < upgrdman> another one:
2016-04-09T16:26:06 < upgrdman> "	
2016-04-09T16:26:08 < upgrdman> IEEEPROJECT GURU has sent you a message      hi dude
2016-04-09T16:26:08 < upgrdman> can you tell me how should i dynamically update my data onfrom raspberry pi to server then to Android mobile and also andriod to to raspberry pi"
2016-04-09T16:26:29 < upgrdman> im so honored that the IEEE would ask for my help
2016-04-09T16:26:47 < dongs> upgrdman: just reply them with
2016-04-09T16:26:48 < dongs> Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that?
2016-04-09T16:30:20 < upgrdman> nice
2016-04-09T16:30:39 < upgrdman> that from your spam folder?
2016-04-09T16:33:22 < dongs> no its an ancient 4chan thing
2016-04-09T16:33:34 < dongs> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/has-anyone-really-been-far-even-as-decided-to-use-even-go-want-to-do-look-more-like
2016-04-09T16:39:44 < PeterM> nah, jsut respond iwht this upgrdman http://i.imgur.com/i06WVjr.gif
2016-04-09T16:40:24 < dongs> i actually read that
2016-04-09T16:40:27 < dongs> as it w as scrolling
2016-04-09T16:40:30 < PeterM> yes
2016-04-09T16:40:32 < dongs> also I've seen it as text before
2016-04-09T16:40:37 < PeterM> indeed
2016-04-09T16:40:42 < PeterM> it is standad copypastsa
2016-04-09T16:40:50 < PeterM> but in a form that is ver yquickyl readable
2016-04-09T16:40:54 < jadew> is that the feminist threat?
2016-04-09T16:40:58 < PeterM> unlike my typing
2016-04-09T16:41:01 < dongs> no, read it
2016-04-09T16:41:11 < upgrdman> lol nice PeterM
2016-04-09T16:41:17 < dongs> gawd icecube is so terrible
2016-04-09T16:41:24 < dongs> like 10 clicks to compile
2016-04-09T16:41:26 < dongs> cuz its al lseparate tools
2016-04-09T16:41:28 < dongs> lole
2016-04-09T16:41:37 < upgrdman> tempted to revisit my segway robot thinggy
2016-04-09T16:41:46 < dongs> call it chinaway
2016-04-09T16:41:56 < upgrdman> kinda want to build a new one, but a little bigger so i can fuck with it outside
2016-04-09T16:42:25 < upgrdman> maybe like 300mm wheelbase, instead of the ~100mm i used
2016-04-09T16:42:39 < PeterM> what
2016-04-09T16:42:51 < upgrdman> PeterM, i made this a few years ago:
2016-04-09T16:42:58 < PeterM> nonono
2016-04-09T16:43:00 < PeterM> i understand
2016-04-09T16:43:08 < PeterM> but how do  oyu get "wheelbase" on a seguay
2016-04-09T16:43:18 < PeterM> In both road and rail vehicles, the wheelbase is the distance between the centers of the front and rear wheels.
2016-04-09T16:43:22 < upgrdman> http://www.farrellf.com/temp/robot_pre_pcb.jpg
2016-04-09T16:43:22 < upgrdman> err oops
2016-04-09T16:43:23 < upgrdman> trackwidth
2016-04-09T16:43:25 < upgrdman> not wheelbase
2016-04-09T16:43:39 < PeterM> ah
2016-04-09T16:43:40 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-09T16:44:00 < PeterM> can't you just buy them mini segways now?
2016-04-09T16:44:10 < Sync> swagway plz
2016-04-09T16:44:21 < PeterM> swegay
2016-04-09T16:44:27 < upgrdman> schmegway
2016-04-09T16:44:40 < PeterM> paging those from sweden, swegay
2016-04-09T16:44:41 < Sync> https://swagway.com/ it actually is "legit"
2016-04-09T16:44:56 < PeterM> >hoverboard
2016-04-09T16:44:58 < upgrdman> PeterM, it was kinda fun to build, i enjoyed it. im not looking for a ready made toy
2016-04-09T16:44:59 < PeterM> >doesnt hover
2016-04-09T16:45:01 < PeterM> fuck off
2016-04-09T16:45:21 < PeterM> upgrdman, yeah but you can write your own codes for the platform
2016-04-09T16:45:41 < Sync> yeah the eddy current ones seem to be fun
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2016-04-09T17:16:35 < jadew> has anyone got the htc vive?
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2016-04-09T17:20:43 < trepidacious> I kind of want one, but then I need a much better PC :(
2016-04-09T17:23:32 < jadew> what are the requirements?
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2016-04-09T17:31:41 < trepidacious> I think you need to be able to run Crysis :)
2016-04-09T17:31:54 < jadew> haha
2016-04-09T17:31:57 < trepidacious> No but seriously, I think maybe a 970? I have a 660 Ti
2016-04-09T17:32:31 < upgrdman> speaking of phones, i discovered that my samsung note 5 can double as a super nice ee microscope
2016-04-09T17:32:53 < upgrdman> little lag in camera app, pinch to zoom to max ... amazeballs
2016-04-09T17:33:03 < trepidacious> I'm going to wait for these new amazing HBM nvidia cards and get one of those, a Vive and a gsync monitor at the same time
2016-04-09T17:33:05 < upgrdman> reading values on 0402 resistors, etc
2016-04-09T17:33:20 < upgrdman> hbm?
2016-04-09T17:33:26 < jadew> trepidacious, looks like my PC isn't ready either: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/DmNtG.png
2016-04-09T17:33:28 < trepidacious> upgrdman: With a tick-on lens?
2016-04-09T17:33:34 < jadew> upgrdman, it's not a phone, it's a VR headset
2016-04-09T17:33:35 < upgrdman> trepidacious, no, stock
2016-04-09T17:33:40 < upgrdman> oh oops lol
2016-04-09T17:33:45 < trepidacious> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Bandwidth_Memory
2016-04-09T17:34:17 < trepidacious> Ah, that's why you said speaking of phones :) Yeah I keep thinking HTC Vive should be a phone
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2016-04-09T17:36:33 < upgrdman> hmm so HBM is "just" putting the memory on the gpu interposer? neat. is this just to reduce pcb trace lengths and pcb complexity?
2016-04-09T17:38:54 < englishman> dongs, https://www.facebook.com/DronesCrashing/videos/vb.1417877268535409/1607878579535276/?type=2&theater
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2016-04-09T17:39:46 < Laurenceb_> I hate horses
2016-04-09T17:39:53 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to genocide the horses
2016-04-09T17:41:41 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_creep
2016-04-09T17:41:57 < Laurenceb_>  "weak project manager or executive sponsor" yup
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2016-04-09T17:51:16 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, harden the fuck up
2016-04-09T17:51:41 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y
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2016-04-09T18:22:09 < aandrew> ah, so the USB code works
2016-04-09T18:22:18 < aandrew> it just seems to need a cold reset to work
2016-04-09T18:22:39 < aandrew> reset button/stlink reset doesn't let the pCD come up properly
2016-04-09T18:22:40 < aandrew> wtf
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2016-04-09T18:31:11 < emeb_mac> aandrew: what processor?
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2016-04-09T18:37:17 < aandrew> emeb_mac: stm32f417
2016-04-09T18:37:32 < aandrew> I notice on the stm32f4-discovery board that they have 22 ohm series termination
2016-04-09T18:37:43 < aandrew> but the user manual for the chip doesn't seem to call this out and I don't have them on my board
2016-04-09T18:37:49 < emeb_mac> aandrew: ok - not the older parts with external usb pullup.
2016-04-09T18:38:08 < emeb_mac> those do funny things if you don't pop that pullup
2016-04-09T18:39:16 < emeb_mac> the 22 ohm resistors are mainly for impedance matching. You can get by w/o them but its best to have them there.
2016-04-09T18:39:47 < emeb_mac> newer parts (F0x2 etc) have better USB I/O drivers and don't need them.
2016-04-09T18:45:16 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-64-Internal-HX421C14FBK4/dp/B01D8U29QQ/
2016-04-09T18:45:23 < ReadError> its getting cheap again
2016-04-09T18:45:29 < ReadError> or seems like it anyways
2016-04-09T18:46:35 < emeb_mac> gah - 64GB RAM
2016-04-09T18:46:54 < ReadError> emeb_mac ya
2016-04-09T18:47:04 < ReadError> would be dumb to build out a new rig with anything less
2016-04-09T18:47:06 < emeb_mac> I should add some - my Matlab sims keep running out of RAM on the 8GB system
2016-04-09T18:47:19 < ReadError> since i dont have any ddr4 anyways
2016-04-09T18:48:11 < emeb_mac> but that machine is like 6 yrs old now.
2016-04-09T18:48:26 < ReadError> 6700K, 64gb ram
2016-04-09T18:48:34 < ReadError> undecided on vidjay card
2016-04-09T18:48:43 < ReadError> its not a gaming rig so may just keep the 770 for it
2016-04-09T18:49:04 < emeb_mac> ya
2016-04-09T18:50:47 < emeb_mac> ReadError: what kind of apps use that amount of RAM?
2016-04-09T18:51:10 < emeb_mac> my communications simulations would if I let them, but the average user... ?
2016-04-09T18:51:18 < ReadError> emeb_mac I run a lot of virtuals
2016-04-09T18:51:27 < ReadError> all my 'working' enviroments are in VMs
2016-04-09T18:51:50 < ReadError> makes it portable and easy to have dedicated ones to specific things
2016-04-09T18:52:03 < emeb_mac> ic
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2016-04-09T19:38:08 < Sync> http://i.imgur.com/Vg3VBne.jpg cc Laurenceb_
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2016-04-09T19:39:08 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2016-04-09T19:39:41 < Laurenceb_> sounds like Dr Evil level experiment
2016-04-09T19:41:13 < Sync> it is actually pretty common
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2016-04-09T22:35:34 < Laurenceb_> lulwut https://i.sli.mg/dO52Uy.jpg
2016-04-09T22:37:45 < Steffann> You sound surprised.
2016-04-09T22:39:42 < Laurenceb_> well uk newspapers are pretty much ten versions of same story with different spin
2016-04-09T22:39:50 < Laurenceb_> but I've never seen it taken that far
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2016-04-09T23:29:44 < Steffann> Yes russia is great
2016-04-09T23:30:19 < Steffann> Thats why some russians immigrate to yankeeland.
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2016-04-10T01:33:32 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/gKIFJcC.png
2016-04-10T01:33:40 < Laurenceb_> ok new LSM9DS1 footprint
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2016-04-10T02:05:05 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/aallan/status/718851627218808832
2016-04-10T02:11:27 < Laurenceb_> makes sense given the wind
2016-04-10T02:11:43 < Laurenceb_> I like how the orientate the stage so the legs fit better
2016-04-10T02:12:10 < Laurenceb_> from the vertical onboard camera its dead centered at touchdown
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2016-04-10T02:12:23 < Laurenceb_> less than a meter error until it starts skipping
2016-04-10T02:19:50 < Sync> yeah
2016-04-10T02:19:54 < Sync> but that is not too hard
2016-04-10T02:20:07 < Thorn> what kind of radio navigation are they using
2016-04-10T02:20:16 < Thorn> I don't see any antennae on the barge
2016-04-10T02:20:26 < Sync> zigbee
2016-04-10T02:22:44 < kakimir> kids having lan party
2016-04-10T02:23:34 < kakimir> stressful time for seniors like me
2016-04-10T02:47:56 < kakimir> play all that CS:GO
2016-04-10T02:48:24 < kakimir> when one leaves his computer I quickly sit down and start CS
2016-04-10T02:55:08 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO-1ePYypdU Laurenceb_
2016-04-10T02:59:18 < Sync> old
2016-04-10T03:01:25 -!- davor [~davor@unaffiliated/davor] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
2016-04-10T03:02:24 < kakimir> Sync: fix openocd lpc15xx support
2016-04-10T03:04:29 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzgNw1Z_xqw chase&status of the day
2016-04-10T03:05:20 < Sync> no interest in stonercpus
2016-04-10T03:05:51 < kakimir> fool.. it's being literally same cpu than in stm32
2016-04-10T03:06:12 < kakimir> you meant mcu
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2016-04-10T03:12:36 < Laurenceb_> Thorn: someone spotted an off the shelf 24GHz FMCW radar module in the bottom
2016-04-10T03:14:51 < Thorn> of the 1st stage?
2016-04-10T03:14:54 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-10T03:16:26 < kakimir> #stm32-space-flight when?
2016-04-10T03:16:55 < kakimir> uncle Laurenceb_ provides engines
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2016-04-10T03:24:06 < Sync> interesting Laurenceb_
2016-04-10T03:34:07 < Laurenceb_> but thats only part of the system, dunno if they just use GPS or if they have transponders on the barge
2016-04-10T03:34:14 < Laurenceb_> *only use GPS
2016-04-10T03:34:32 < Laurenceb_> apparently it runs on linux with real time kernel
2016-04-10T03:34:56 < Laurenceb_> surprised the engineers didnt kill themselves already
2016-04-10T03:35:13 < kakimir> :]
2016-04-10T03:35:52 < Laurenceb_> why not VxWorks?! even ChibiOS seems more sane
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2016-04-10T03:44:45 < Sync> rtai or rt-preempt is not that bad Laurenceb_
2016-04-10T03:45:00 < Sync> you'd get more cancer with vxworks
2016-04-10T03:45:18 < Laurenceb_> I guess - I've only ever used it for very basic projects at work
2016-04-10T03:45:32 < Laurenceb_> linux is ok until you have to read the kernel source O_o
2016-04-10T03:54:14 < Laurenceb_> the PAEDiatric Continuous Early Warning System PAEDCEWS
2016-04-10T03:54:26 < Laurenceb_> reaching a new level of stupid acronyms
2016-04-10T03:54:42 < Sync> wat
2016-04-10T03:55:04 < Laurenceb_> new work project :P
2016-04-10T03:55:31 < Laurenceb_>  "please form a queue next to the seat over there"
2016-04-10T03:55:45 < Thorn> pedocows?
2016-04-10T03:55:59 < Thorn> found a good deal on UNI-T UT805A, worth it?
2016-04-10T03:55:59 < Laurenceb_> hmm
2016-04-10T03:56:13 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats probably our next project name
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2016-04-10T03:57:01 < Sync> the fuck is that supposed to do Laurenceb_?
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2016-04-10T03:57:43 < Laurenceb_> nobody knows... monitor deterioration in patient health... somehow
2016-04-10T03:57:52 < Laurenceb_> scope creep here we come
2016-04-10T03:58:28 < Sync> wat
2016-04-10T03:58:29 < Laurenceb_> apparently there is IP related to this http://nottinghamchildhealth.org.uk/induction/Communication/pews.htm
2016-04-10T03:59:01 < Sync> that sounds incredibly useless
2016-04-10T03:59:05 < Laurenceb_> PEWS will be developed to CEWS using "software assist"
2016-04-10T03:59:28 < Laurenceb_> it will be especially useless once I've finished writing the GUI :P
2016-04-10T03:59:59 < Sync> in rageqt
2016-04-10T04:00:30 < Laurenceb_> heh yup
2016-04-10T04:01:07 < Laurenceb_> my job: getting paid to implement utterly random project ideas emailed to me by people who appear to be high
2016-04-10T04:03:49 < Sync> and cashing in monies
2016-04-10T04:03:56 < Sync> gotta love grants
2016-04-10T04:10:05 < aandrew> getting there
2016-04-10T04:10:14 < aandrew> now the USB device at least is seen, but the configuration can't be set
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2016-04-10T04:28:24 < Thorn> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/multimeter-spreadsheet/
2016-04-10T04:29:23 < Laurenceb_>  >trusting eevblog
2016-04-10T04:30:49 < emeb_mac> got an I2S sine / saw oscillator running in the ice5lp4k - uses about 5% of resources.
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2016-04-10T04:36:50 < aandrew> fluke 87 <3
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2016-04-10T04:56:48 < Thorn> it only has 6000 counts?
2016-04-10T05:02:54 < dongs> i have fluke 73
2016-04-10T05:02:55 < dongs> i'm even more pro
2016-04-10T05:04:47 < dongs> emeb_mac: is it really like 10 clicks to get something compiled in icecube
2016-04-10T05:04:54 < dongs> i started it and made a project with your test.v
2016-04-10T05:05:23 < emeb_mac> it's pretty easy
2016-04-10T05:05:25 < dongs> run simplyify, select implemetantion, import p&r, run placer, run router, generate bitmap wat
2016-04-10T05:05:31 < emeb_mac> yep
2016-04-10T05:05:44 < dongs> thats a lot of clicks why isnt there a fucking "press F5 to blog"
2016-04-10T05:05:50 < dongs> also each step is pretty slow
2016-04-10T05:05:55 < emeb_mac> from menu you can do a "run all"
2016-04-10T05:06:06 < dongs> opoo
2016-04-10T05:06:07 < dongs> T-R
2016-04-10T05:06:07 < dongs> nice
2016-04-10T05:06:33 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2016-04-10T05:06:39 < emeb_mac> takes < 1min for my designs.
2016-04-10T05:06:40 < dongs> lol single-threaded junk
2016-04-10T05:06:41 < Laurenceb_>  import p&r, run placer, run router, generate bitmap
2016-04-10T05:06:46 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2016-04-10T05:07:03 < Laurenceb_> sounds like a CNC mill
2016-04-10T05:08:28 < emeb_mac> dongs: I've got some large designs that take > 1 hour to synthesize / place / route
2016-04-10T05:08:37 < emeb_mac> on big Xilinx parts
2016-04-10T05:09:36 < Thorn> there should be incremental compilation in $$$ versions of the software
2016-04-10T05:09:38 < Laurenceb_> oh this is FPGA
2016-04-10T05:09:44 < emeb_mac> ya
2016-04-10T05:09:44 < Laurenceb_> I thought it was for stm32 lol
2016-04-10T05:11:18 < Thorn> how to make your own stm32: compile hdl, import library, generate netlist, place, route, output masks, pay $2M
2016-04-10T05:11:43 < emeb_mac> kickstarter!
2016-04-10T05:12:19 < dongs> make a clone of GD32
2016-04-10T05:12:28 < dongs> yo dawg
2016-04-10T05:12:35 < dongs> yes
2016-04-10T05:12:39 < dongs> they're arm licensee.
2016-04-10T05:12:55 < Laurenceb_> why bother
2016-04-10T05:13:00 < Laurenceb_> stm32 is cheap enough
2016-04-10T05:13:16 < dongs> gd32 is cheaper
2016-04-10T05:13:23 < Laurenceb_> I guess if you want dirt cheap chinadevice junk then it might just be worth it
2016-04-10T05:13:30 < dongs> and < 256k parts run allfrom cache ram
2016-04-10T05:13:44 < Laurenceb_> F0 is about the cheapest 32 bit on digikey
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2016-04-10T05:13:53 < dongs> no, shitty KL0 stuff is
2016-04-10T05:13:57 < dongs> that uh...
2016-04-10T05:14:00 < dongs> whoever makes it
2016-04-10T05:14:07 < dongs> same fags who make i.mx
2016-04-10T05:14:10 < dongs> kinetis
2016-04-10T05:14:55 < emeb_mac> nxp now. used to be freescale
2016-04-10T05:15:02 < dongs> feescale yea
2016-04-10T05:15:12 < emeb_mac> nxp bought 'em
2016-04-10T05:15:36 < emeb_mac> before that it was Motorola Semiconductor
2016-04-10T05:15:47  * emeb_mac 's wife worked there back in the day
2016-04-10T05:16:36 < dongs> wonder if I should freelance the stuff I wanna do in veriblog for like $30 to some paki
2016-04-10T05:16:47 < dongs> it would certainly be a better way to spend my time
2016-04-10T05:16:56 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-10T05:17:07 < emeb_mac> HDLs rule
2016-04-10T05:17:16 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Data-capture-Microcontroller-EEprom-10171000/ 8th repost for skimmer
2016-04-10T05:17:24 < dongs> i wonder when he gonna give up
2016-04-10T05:17:50 < dongs> somewhat
2016-04-10T05:17:57 < dongs> i see ridiculous stuff get deleted quickly
2016-04-10T05:18:06 < dongs> usually money requests to another feelance service
2016-04-10T05:18:13 < dongs> 'plz i need $150 on skrill now, ill pay you $200 here"
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2016-04-10T05:18:27 < emeb_mac> so legit
2016-04-10T05:18:31 < dongs> totes
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2016-04-10T05:20:47 < dongs> https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/718806751374548992 lol iceland
2016-04-10T05:21:38 < emeb_mac> arrrr!
2016-04-10T05:22:53 < dongs> https://booleans.io/ so useful
2016-04-10T05:22:57 < dongs> fucking int ernet
2016-04-10T05:23:59 < Thorn> https://www.foaas.com/
2016-04-10T05:24:05 < dongs> seen
2016-04-10T05:24:06 < dongs> old
2016-04-10T05:28:51 < dongs> aww no ritot updates still
2016-04-10T05:36:29 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/solutions-needed-for-problems/
2016-04-10T05:37:10 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/IfQffui.jpg
2016-04-10T05:40:17 < dongs> stm32 exploded
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2016-04-10T05:55:05 < aandrew> haha
2016-04-10T05:55:06 < aandrew> "And doesn't matter to YOU what it's used for."
2016-04-10T05:55:10 < aandrew> from that skimmer
2016-04-10T05:56:02 < aandrew> ah yes, stm32cube, where the examples don't work and the support is shit
2016-04-10T05:57:33 < dongs> rite
2016-04-10T05:57:57 < dongs> time to load up dicknplace
2016-04-10T05:58:34 < emeb_mac> gah! it burnsssss!
2016-04-10T05:58:55 < upgrdman_> ohsix, heh nice kitty
2016-04-10T05:58:56 < aandrew> looks like the version that works is based on an ancient cube
2016-04-10T06:01:36 < dongs> you keep talkin shit about cube
2016-04-10T06:01:38 < dongs> but it just works
2016-04-10T06:03:01 < emeb_mac> haven't seen it *not* work yet
2016-04-10T06:03:52 < dongs> its ugly, yes. it makes you wanna stab, yes
2016-04-10T06:03:56 < dongs> but when you just want shit to work, it works
2016-04-10T06:04:16 < emeb_mac> I find that copypasta the examples is a good way to start.
2016-04-10T06:04:16 < aandrew> dongs: stm32f4 usb demo doesn't work, nor does the vcp
2016-04-10T06:04:32 < aandrew> they come up in usb, kind of
2016-04-10T06:04:35 < dongs> it certainly does
2016-04-10T06:04:36 < aandrew> cant select a valid config
2016-04-10T06:04:39 < dongs> i've personally used it
2016-04-10T06:04:55 < dongs> also you dont really *have* to use cube on F4
2016-04-10T06:05:00 < dongs> since there's still maintained stdp[eriphlib
2016-04-10T06:09:24 < aandrew> hm, maybe you are right
2016-04-10T06:09:33 < aandrew> it might be FreeRTOS/cmsis fucking this up
2016-04-10T06:26:17 < dongs> dirty nig
2016-04-10T06:26:28 < dongs> crt: it does say no pumping on the door sign youknow
2016-04-10T06:39:21 < ReadError> dongs
2016-04-10T06:39:29 < ReadError> why did you get the i6700 over the i6700k ?
2016-04-10T06:39:41 < ReadError> err -i
2016-04-10T06:40:14 < dongs> ^ basically this even tho cost is not an issue
2016-04-10T06:40:25 < dongs> but I have no reason to have k, i dont overclock and never did
2016-04-10T06:40:46 < dongs> like Q6600 or wahtever?
2016-04-10T06:40:49 < dongs> doubtful
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2016-04-10T06:44:44 < PeterM> nah man, boxes dont drop loot, and hte enemies are too bullet spongey, need mroe enemiees less bullets
2016-04-10T06:45:27 < PeterM> i know, and its shit
2016-04-10T06:45:29 < ReadError> can get 64gb of ddr4 for like, 285 now
2016-04-10T06:45:41 < dongs> wut
2016-04-10T06:45:44 < ReadError> no reason not to
2016-04-10T06:45:45 < dongs> i paid 80 for 32
2016-04-10T06:45:53 < ReadError> for 4 dimms tho?
2016-04-10T06:45:53 < dongs> samdung ddr4
2016-04-10T06:45:57 < dongs> 2 dimms of 16 yes
2016-04-10T06:45:58 < PeterM> man remember when ddr2 was like $2/gb?
2016-04-10T06:46:02 < ReadError> oh not bad
2016-04-10T06:46:08 < dongs> not gamer trash
2016-04-10T06:46:21 < PeterM> ohsix, yes
2016-04-10T06:46:40 < PeterM> "rng suck, git gud"
2016-04-10T06:47:36 < PeterM> mmh, also, this isn't stm32
2016-04-10T06:53:05 < dongs> stm32 trays can be sometimes mistaken f or pizza bozes
2016-04-10T06:53:19 < dongs> i have so many of them.
2016-04-10T07:04:25 < PeterM> dongs speaking of stm32 trays, dont you hate it when you look accross a tray and see like on slightly more shiny package than all the others?
2016-04-10T07:05:42 < dongs> eh, havent noticed really. have you?
2016-04-10T07:05:52 < dongs> mine are all pretty similar
2016-04-10T07:06:00 < dongs> i get them in boxes so i'd guess they're al lsame batch etc
2016-04-10T07:06:08 < dongs> havent bought individual trays in forever
2016-04-10T07:08:14 < ReadError> I like when trays come broken in half with saran wrap holding everything in
2016-04-10T07:08:26 < ReadError> and that wonderful smell of cigs and chemicals/gasoline
2016-04-10T07:08:42 < PeterM> yeah maybe 1 stm in 4 trays is slightly shinier, i dont buy individual trays often either, only for brototypes or expensive shit
2016-04-10T07:09:06 < PeterM> ReadError, kek buying from dubious aliexpress sellers
2016-04-10T07:09:20 < ReadError> PeterM damn straight
2016-04-10T07:09:43 < PeterM> how many non-100% stms you get? like 1 in 10?
2016-04-10T07:09:43 < ReadError> cant say ive ever gotten a 'bad' chip
2016-04-10T07:09:49 < ReadError> nah never
2016-04-10T07:09:51 < PeterM> orly
2016-04-10T07:09:52 < ReadError> always legit
2016-04-10T07:10:05 < ReadError> but I only use sellers with good history
2016-04-10T07:10:11 < ReadError> many diamonds
2016-04-10T07:10:15 < dongs> clonererror doesnt know what "legit" means\
2016-04-10T07:11:11 < ReadError> means i flash it and it works as expected
2016-04-10T07:11:15 < PeterM> heh, ive only ever gotten dodgy shit from my china guy when it was some out of production stuff and i said i needed it regardless of quality
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2016-04-10T07:12:16 < PeterM> i only needed like 10 working pcs, so wasnt a big deal, jsut individually tested
2016-04-10T07:12:18 < dongs> what you mean you DONT want some other customers firmware iun your shit?
2016-04-10T07:16:03 < dongs> farm it off to feelancer
2016-04-10T07:16:21 < dongs> 7am in israel
2016-04-10T07:16:25 < dongs> my feelancer should be online soon
2016-04-10T07:19:32 < dongs> ohsix: identify these printable DVDRs plz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igHKibD4dBQ
2016-04-10T07:33:05 < PeterM> dongs, 26 views from some random uploader, hwo do you find this lines
2016-04-10T07:33:09 < PeterM> links
2016-04-10T07:34:24 < dongs> heh
2016-04-10T07:55:06 < dongs> BOOKING CONFIRMED
2016-04-10T08:06:03 < ReadError> how did they get them to be shiney
2016-04-10T08:06:09 < ReadError> thats different
2016-04-10T08:13:59 < dongs> https://cohub-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/10/images/1685/1685_large.jpeg
2016-04-10T08:14:00 < dongs> shiny
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2016-04-10T08:40:29 < dongs> lol nice. you can configure this ST sensor to swap low/high niggles
2016-04-10T08:40:35 < dongs> so you can read it into uint16 without swapping
2016-04-10T08:40:54 < dongs> swap in hardware 4 free
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2016-04-10T09:39:22 < dongs> lol @ patreon users list at the end of that vid
2016-04-10T09:40:13 < PeterM> https://www.reddit.com/r/diyelectronics/comments/4a89bu/topic_advanced_buck_regulator_olympics/
2016-04-10T09:40:14 < PeterM> Your buck CANNOT be a prepackaged buck regulator solution; you have to build your product from scratch using discrete components. Opamps are acceptable entries as error amplifiers.
2016-04-10T09:40:37 < PeterM> fuckin opamps? may aswell fuckin ignore the entire contest
2016-04-10T09:42:48 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/drhifW27.html more pro ST code
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2016-04-10T10:12:32 < ReadError> yea not sure about using thumb+stick though
2016-04-10T10:14:32 < ReadError> ya i got one to try
2016-04-10T10:14:40 < ReadError> the wireless one
2016-04-10T10:15:12 < ReadError> must emulate i2c over wireless
2016-04-10T10:15:14 < ReadError> somehow
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2016-04-10T10:16:58 < upgrdman> if i want a fuckton of 4ch timers, what stm32 do i need? f4? f3?
2016-04-10T10:17:08 < upgrdman> kinda want 4 4ch timers
2016-04-10T10:17:39 < dongs> upgrdman: they're mostly all 4ch, F103 has 12/16 timer channels if you dont want any other pins
2016-04-10T10:17:56 < upgrdman> hmm
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2016-04-10T10:22:57 < upgrdman> diff between f407 or f411 ?
2016-04-10T10:23:02 < upgrdman> i see both disco boards
2016-04-10T10:23:05 < upgrdman> and they look ~same
2016-04-10T10:23:10 < dongs> none for your purpose
2016-04-10T10:23:23 < dongs> yeah you should probly pick F4 for less retarded gpio
2016-04-10T10:23:28 < dongs> anyway, how many channels do you need/
2016-04-10T10:24:16 < upgrdman> dongs, well i want to make a motion control board, and i want to h-bridge as many motors as possible (for future unknown projects)
2016-04-10T10:24:30 < upgrdman> right now, i want to handle up to 4 brushed motors
2016-04-10T10:24:44 < upgrdman> but would like to support more if reasonable
2016-04-10T10:25:00 < dongs> you need 2 channels per motor?
2016-04-10T10:25:08 < upgrdman> ya, i want breaking
2016-04-10T10:25:17 < upgrdman> so cant just invert
2016-04-10T10:26:09 < ReadError> for one?
2016-04-10T10:26:15 < ReadError> for what*
2016-04-10T10:26:17 < upgrdman> ohsix, link?
2016-04-10T10:26:32 < ReadError> ep2 of ?
2016-04-10T10:26:41 < ReadError> ohhh
2016-04-10T10:26:58 < upgrdman> i wonder if china gives a fuck about torrenting
2016-04-10T10:27:08 < ReadError> china has their own p2p
2016-04-10T10:27:18 < ReadError> forget the name
2016-04-10T10:27:36 < upgrdman> ya but then i have to type in chinese to google it
2016-04-10T10:28:00 < ReadError> Xunlei-Lixian
2016-04-10T10:28:11 < ReadError> it was some option on the synology
2016-04-10T10:28:44 < ReadError> they had some cool eps
2016-04-10T10:29:59 < ReadError> yea some of the cast are legit
2016-04-10T10:30:21 < ReadError> like joe and zoz
2016-04-10T10:35:26 < ReadError> so my connection was flapping
2016-04-10T10:35:34 < ReadError> ran tcpdump on the router
2016-04-10T10:36:00 < ReadError> http://hastebin.com/afujotaxan.avrasm
2016-04-10T10:36:08 < ReadError> this is only 1/2 of a second
2016-04-10T10:36:21 < ReadError> fuckin 589 packets
2016-04-10T10:36:53 < ReadError> this shit was sitting idle too
2016-04-10T10:38:43 < ReadError> yea some of the 'tv' shit is dumb
2016-04-10T10:39:14 < ReadError> seems most the eps are on youtube
2016-04-10T10:39:58 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Ls0Gq1n0w
2016-04-10T10:40:00 < ReadError> cool ep
2016-04-10T10:40:18 < ReadError> quality on these eps suck
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2016-04-10T10:41:30 < dongs> I've got a stm32
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2016-04-10T10:43:03 < ReadError> yea editing for tv def fucked things up
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2016-04-10T11:30:42 < upgrdman> anyone here know the details of using capacitor to reduce brushed dc motor noise (like on rc toys) ? often its one cap between motor terminal, then one cap between each terminal and the motor can. if the can is "floating" (not grounded) what help is cap'ing to the can?
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2016-04-10T11:34:16 < upgrdman> hmm
2016-04-10T11:34:21 < upgrdman> when googling for a photo i found this
2016-04-10T11:34:22 < upgrdman> http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/19517/why-connect-capacitors-to-motor-body
2016-04-10T11:34:30 < upgrdman> and it didnt really answer definitively
2016-04-10T11:34:46 < upgrdman> but maybe the induced can voltage guy is right?
2016-04-10T11:34:49 < dongs> i've seen caps on +/-
2016-04-10T11:34:51 < dongs> but not to the can
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2016-04-10T11:36:57 < upgrdman> no i've seen them soldered like i mentioned
2016-04-10T11:37:03 < upgrdman> one between terminals
2016-04-10T11:37:28 < upgrdman> one cap'ing terminal A to can, and another cap'ing B to can
2016-04-10T11:37:42 < upgrdman> no idea
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2016-04-10T11:40:38 < ReadError> whats e4 about?
2016-04-10T11:40:56 < dongs> gay games
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2016-04-10T11:41:18 < dongs> i've seen this e4 label on some STM32s before
2016-04-10T11:41:34 < dongs> inside a circle
2016-04-10T11:42:03 < ReadError> aint no squares up in my circle
2016-04-10T11:42:18 < PeterM> upgrdman, it basically turns the can into a shield without putting it at a dc potential
2016-04-10T11:43:22 < dongs> noise suppression is something i wouldnt mind in this channel
2016-04-10T11:43:35 < PeterM> kek
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2016-04-10T11:45:26 < lorenzo> ReadError: iirc it's something about lead content or other chemicals
2016-04-10T11:46:06 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/need-code-using-VHDL-language/
2016-04-10T11:46:19 < lorenzo> ah yeah texas instruments says it's "Pb-Free" categories, e4 is "Preplated" whatever that means
2016-04-10T11:46:39 < dongs> i thought it was ST's ecopack shit
2016-04-10T11:46:40 < dongs> but whoe knows
2016-04-10T11:47:02 < lorenzo> yeah could be related environmental compliance bullshit
2016-04-10T11:50:59 < PeterM> dont the winston cells ahve garbage energy density/power density?
2016-04-10T11:54:41 < ReadError> surprised you hadnt seen this show before
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2016-04-10T11:55:34 < PeterM> they are even compared to 18650s only because you can't really pack 18650s perfectly (round != symmetrical), but compared to same technology in pouch cells much better (until you get up to super huge cells)
2016-04-10T11:56:00 < PeterM> because the packaging for prismatic cells is hueg
2016-04-10T11:59:57 < PeterM> lifepo4 was competetive like 5-10 years  ago but limn or lico has jsut advanced to much and lifepo4 has almsot gone backwards
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2016-04-10T12:03:39 < PeterM> ohsix, havent htey always? also, unsurprising.
2016-04-10T12:04:02 < ReadError> ohhh you mean boards
2016-04-10T12:04:06 < ReadError> i thought u meant the mcu
2016-04-10T12:08:04 < PeterM> or liek $1.30-$1.4 from chinaman
2016-04-10T12:08:24 < PeterM> my chinaman, dongs chinagirl etc
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2016-04-10T12:15:22 < upgrdman> are there any laser cutter for <$4k that aren't total aids?
2016-04-10T12:16:39 < upgrdman> crt, current sheets of plastic (i know... no pvc or other chlorides) and wood (balsa and light ply) .... maybe 1 - 4mm thick
2016-04-10T12:16:46 < upgrdman> s/current/cutting
2016-04-10T12:21:15 < emeb_mac> article on HaD re some dude who built a 2-D pen plotter with steppers & arduino. They keep calling it a "robot"
2016-04-10T12:21:32 < emeb_mac> So I guess now a robot is anything with motors & computers?
2016-04-10T12:22:01 < emeb_mac> I think I'm going to start calling my laser printer a robot
2016-04-10T12:23:13 < emeb_mac> by that definition a wind-up toy qualifies.
2016-04-10T12:24:10 < emeb_mac> I've had that problem before
2016-04-10T12:24:25 < emeb_mac> don't recall how I solved it.
2016-04-10T12:24:56 < emeb_mac> yeah - they've got different pages, some work, others don't
2016-04-10T12:37:40 < emeb_mac> lol - ST now requires a login before they let you D/L stuff.
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2016-04-10T12:42:48 < dongs> emeb, download *anyhing(?
2016-04-10T12:42:54 < dongs> i grabbed some .zip and .pdf shit earlier today
2016-04-10T12:42:55 < dongs> no login
2016-04-10T12:42:58 < dongs> iNEMO trash
2016-04-10T12:44:59 < emeb_mac> and looks like www2 requires it, and www always redirects to www2
2016-04-10T12:59:12 < emeb_mac> taking the easy way I see
2016-04-10T12:59:26 < emeb_mac> it's useless to be a resistor
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2016-04-10T13:15:33  * mitrax yawns
2016-04-10T13:16:13 < mitrax> hey
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2016-04-10T13:22:04 < mitrax> i'm eating pistachios in the tub
2016-04-10T13:22:56 < emeb_mac> livin' the life
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2016-04-10T13:42:45 < ReadError> hush up lil dongs
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2016-04-10T13:48:32 < ReadError> crt - I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now
2016-04-10T13:48:32 < ReadError> on.
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2016-04-10T14:15:08 < mitrax> chicken go cluck cluck, cow go moo, piggie go oink oink, how about you?
2016-04-10T14:19:06 < mitrax> no
2016-04-10T14:19:22 < jadew> have you guys seen any good movies lately?
2016-04-10T14:20:51 < mitrax> i haven't
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2016-04-10T14:21:28 < jadew> me neither, I'm very disappointed
2016-04-10T14:22:42 < mitrax> Concussion was watchable, but not much happens
2016-04-10T14:23:11 < PeterM> i saw john wick, was not bad
2016-04-10T14:23:12 < mitrax> saw High rise at the theater yesterday, complete horse shit
2016-04-10T14:23:26 < mitrax> John wick? not bad? are you serious?
2016-04-10T14:23:27 < PeterM> it isnt a recent movie, btu ive seen ti recently
2016-04-10T14:23:33 < jadew> john wick was nice
2016-04-10T14:23:48  * mitrax pukes
2016-04-10T14:24:01 < jadew> yeah, the action was good
2016-04-10T14:24:30 < PeterM> it does somethign a lot of movies dont do right, - it feels lived in, like, there is no useless explaining of shit.
2016-04-10T14:24:30 < jadew> I saw Hail Caesar and it was garbage
2016-04-10T14:24:47 < dongs> i thought concussion had some bullshit agenda
2016-04-10T14:24:50 < jadew> I only stayed through all the movie because I paid for the tickets and I hoped something will happen
2016-04-10T14:24:55 < dongs> black lives matter or osmethign
2016-04-10T14:25:02 < mitrax> ahahaah
2016-04-10T14:25:25 < jadew> PeterM, I agree
2016-04-10T14:28:02 < jadew> btw, deadpool is shit too, lots of people seem to enjoy it tho
2016-04-10T14:28:36 < jadew> I couldn't get into it and even if I tried + there's some really faulty science in there
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2016-04-10T14:32:09 < jadew> :)
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2016-04-10T14:33:22 < dongs> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/MLCC-Imp-versus-Freqenz.engl.png
2016-04-10T14:33:36 < dongs> is the notch where it filters the most noise @ that mhz?
2016-04-10T14:33:41 < dongs> or whatevers
2016-04-10T14:33:49 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-10T14:34:54 < PeterM> thats is its self resonant frequency, where ESR and ESL converge
2016-04-10T14:35:32 < PeterM> but that point is usually very sharp, and capacitors are very unstable/inaccurate so forget about it
2016-04-10T14:35:37 < jadew> but it looks like a very shitty capacitor
2016-04-10T14:36:05 < dongs> PeterM: yeah just trying to see why someone would choose 6.8nF bypass  cap vs 10nF
2016-04-10T14:36:19 < dongs> cuz i'm just goin fuckem and using 10nF
2016-04-10T14:36:29 < PeterM> dongs, already in bom? cheaper? were good enough?
2016-04-10T14:36:43 < dongs> PeterM: right, so like no actual reason
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2016-04-10T14:36:50 < dongs> i aint adding a single cap ill never use again to bom
2016-04-10T14:37:28 < dongs> i wonder if they added 6.8 because it filters whatever mhz the thing is running at
2016-04-10T14:37:31 < dongs> out of I/o lines
2016-04-10T14:37:32 < Thorn> anyone ever tried to hook an assembled board up to a proper impedance analyzer?
2016-04-10T14:37:53 < dongs> yeah, thats my current thought on that..
2016-04-10T14:38:07 < dongs> just wondering what possible reasons they could have for it.
2016-04-10T14:38:15 < dongs> other than < PeterM> dongs, already in bom? cheaper? were good enough?
2016-04-10T14:38:51 < PeterM> Thorn, network analyzer, yeah, but i dont own one so i jsut do math and check on the scope
2016-04-10T14:39:32 < Thorn> can you actually see how effective a decoupling network is?
2016-04-10T14:39:59 < dongs> https://www.intersil.com/content/dam/Intersil/documents/an13/an1325.pdf nice @ page 6
2016-04-10T14:40:06 < dongs> match impedance by different packages
2016-04-10T14:40:22 < dongs> pro analog trolling
2016-04-10T14:41:01 < dongs> altium screenshots in page 9, attn R2COM
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2016-04-10T14:43:15 < ReadError> they need to bring back junkyard wars
2016-04-10T14:45:49 < ReadError> well yea ofc
2016-04-10T14:46:04 < ReadError> but it still all required engineering to make it work
2016-04-10T14:48:41 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
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2016-04-10T14:50:21 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-10T14:50:30 < dongs> like bypass capacitors on stm32 are super important.
2016-04-10T14:52:15 < dongs> yeah I usually stick 4 of them in each corner
2016-04-10T14:52:21 < dongs> since thats wehre vcc pins are on 48pin package.
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2016-04-10T14:54:10 < dongs> oh err
2016-04-10T14:54:16 < dongs> no, as in , one per corner
2016-04-10T14:54:17 < dongs> = 4 total
2016-04-10T14:54:29 < dongs> lo ol4 each
2016-04-10T14:58:23 < PeterM> depends on the stm, like on 030f4p6 you can put like... 1x 100n if you feel like it
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2016-04-10T15:03:15 < dongs> the ones in wlcsp dont need bypassing at all
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2016-04-10T15:06:59 < dongs> heh
2016-04-10T15:07:51 < dongs> holy b alls
2016-04-10T15:09:05 < dongs> i thought...
2016-04-10T15:09:09 < dongs> < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/drhifW27.html more pro ST code
2016-04-10T15:09:10 < dongs> that this was bad
2016-04-10T15:09:12 < dongs> then I saw t his
2016-04-10T15:09:15 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/h0lQGW45.html
2016-04-10T15:09:58 < ReadError> holy fuck thats a long file
2016-04-10T15:10:03 < dongs> its 500k
2016-04-10T15:10:10 < dongs> for something that should take maybe ~10k max
2016-04-10T15:10:14 < ReadError> this is redic
2016-04-10T15:10:33 < PeterM> that is TOTALLY READABLE, amirite?
2016-04-10T15:10:40 < dongs> absolutely
2016-04-10T15:10:45 < dongs> its also pretty fresh too
2016-04-10T15:10:48 < dongs> march 16 or whatever
2016-04-10T15:11:10 < dongs> i think most of the bosch code is trash like this, I've seen thier refference shit for baro and it was similar
2016-04-10T15:12:02 < dongs> wehn I first got it i thought 500k, probably has 400k of firmware blob in it
2016-04-10T15:12:36 < Steffann> a_SW_ID_u8 love those variables
2016-04-10T15:13:34 < dongs> i dont think ohsix fucking get sit
2016-04-10T15:13:42 < dongs> nobody here gives a fuck about your shitty TV
2016-04-10T15:14:53 < Steffann> Such friendly, dongs. It's only hard to follow ehen ohsix replies on something from an hour ago
2016-04-10T15:15:14 < dongs> no its just same diarrheah of shit only he cares about
2016-04-10T15:15:44 < Steffann> yeah, we better all browse freelancer all day long
2016-04-10T15:15:52 < dongs> crt: https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/718396540616908800 lol
2016-04-10T15:18:25 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfW5yLQXIAA6iDz.jpg:large RIP nest
2016-04-10T15:19:15 < Steffann> And thats why i hate this "23 hours ago" stuff.. no clue from when this message is
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2016-04-10T15:20:21 < jadew> Steffanx, from 23 hours ago
2016-04-10T15:20:56 < Steffanx> Yes, but in what dimension.
2016-04-10T15:21:01 < Steffanx> *which
2016-04-10T15:25:00 < lorenzo> Steffanx: ~1 week ago
2016-04-10T15:25:01 < jadew> wtf is Nest?
2016-04-10T15:25:15 < lorenzo> jadew: IoT crap
2016-04-10T15:25:23 < jadew> ah
2016-04-10T15:25:26 < Steffanx> thermostat.
2016-04-10T15:25:33 < lorenzo> internet of thermostats
2016-04-10T15:25:41 < jadew> they have "teams" working on a thermostat
2016-04-10T15:25:43 < jadew> ?
2016-04-10T15:25:50 < jadew> no wonder the company is failing
2016-04-10T15:26:54 < lorenzo> they must use freelance.com
2016-04-10T15:27:19 < jadew> or not want to pay enough per engineer
2016-04-10T15:27:36 < jadew> we have that at the company I work for
2016-04-10T15:29:12 < jadew> because the offered sallary is medium, the developers that apply are unusable
2016-04-10T15:30:31 < jadew> I think that's largely the fault of those workforce companies
2016-04-10T15:31:03 < dongs> but
2016-04-10T15:31:05 < jadew> the only hire we had came on his own
2016-04-10T15:31:07 < dongs> they can pay less to more people
2016-04-10T15:31:11 < dongs> and get ~samaea result
2016-04-10T15:31:14 < dongs> it works!!!
2016-04-10T15:31:17 < jadew> dongs, that's not true
2016-04-10T15:31:49 < jadew> yeah, me too but too late
2016-04-10T15:32:09 < jadew> I interviewed a guy who had a 24 pages long CV
2016-04-10T15:32:29 < jadew> and he didn't qualify for a junior position
2016-04-10T15:32:36 < BrainDamage> remeber it's an internet of shit device
2016-04-10T15:32:50 < karlp> heh, that cisco reset button one is funny.
2016-04-10T15:33:10 < karlp> we had a reset button on a board that we weren't using, and just put it behind the casing.
2016-04-10T15:33:15 < BrainDamage> so there's cloud, cryptography, it probably even has statistical / machine learning to determine when the user is in
2016-04-10T15:33:17 < jadew> BrainDamage, yeah, you'd expect one guy to be able to do it all
2016-04-10T15:33:21 < karlp> turns out some cases were tighter than others, and pressed the button
2016-04-10T15:33:27 < karlp> we weren't using it, but the bootloader was.
2016-04-10T15:33:34 < karlp> had to go cut holes in a bunch of boxes
2016-04-10T15:33:39 < BrainDamage> jadew: not if you keep piling up "features"
2016-04-10T15:33:51 < jadew> so 2 guys...
2016-04-10T15:34:06 < jadew> it's a simple project, no matter how you look at it
2016-04-10T15:35:18 < lorenzo> why a thermostat should do machine learning stuff well I have to understand yet
2016-04-10T15:35:52 < jadew> because marketing
2016-04-10T15:36:03 < lorenzo> https://medium.com/internet-of-shit/the-internet-of-things-has-a-dirty-little-secret-28bce2d412b2#.k7x5uexse
2016-04-10T15:36:06 < lorenzo> this is interesting too
2016-04-10T15:36:42 < jadew> what does a thermostat has to learn about?
2016-04-10T15:37:10 < BrainDamage> they claim to learn your preferences and presence
2016-04-10T15:37:22 < BrainDamage> because programming heating times is too complicated
2016-04-10T15:37:44 < BrainDamage> so you have to adjust temp as you like during the day and it supposedly remembers it
2016-04-10T15:38:12 < BrainDamage> is it unnecessarily complicated, fault prone and worse than straight programming? yes
2016-04-10T15:38:33 < lorenzo> BrainDamage: eh, but programming a thermostat takes away 2 minutes of my life that I could spend posting shit on the internet
2016-04-10T15:38:41 < lorenzo> I have so much redditing to do
2016-04-10T15:39:12 < jadew> lorenzo, you could make it a bit more sophisticated and have it controlled from an app on your phone
2016-04-10T15:39:22 < jadew> so... 10 seconds to program it
2016-04-10T15:40:05 < jadew> but that's as far as I would go with how smart it has to be
2016-04-10T15:41:16 < jadew> + I'm pretty sure that they meant to say "programming" not learning
2016-04-10T15:41:23 < jadew> cuz there's really nothing to learn
2016-04-10T15:41:52 < BrainDamage> to my knowledge it detects user presence, stores timetables, and heats in advance
2016-04-10T15:41:57 < BrainDamage> so yes, it "learns"
2016-04-10T15:42:06 < BrainDamage> and also relays that data to third party
2016-04-10T15:42:19 < jadew> BrainDamage, but that might not be what I want
2016-04-10T15:42:29 < jadew> that's a shitty thermostat
2016-04-10T15:42:35 < jadew> if I set it at 15 and leave for a month
2016-04-10T15:42:40 < jadew> I expect my house to stay at 15
2016-04-10T15:43:04 < BrainDamage> those devices start with the assumption that the algo / programmer knows better than the user
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2016-04-10T16:10:42 < englishman> nest does all of those things, but manages to fuck them all up
2016-04-10T16:17:52 < Laurenceb_> nest lul
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2016-04-10T16:38:50 < upgrdman> anyone know of a good way to sync a directory between a lunix server and a windows box? sync both ways... if an existing file is deleted on either, it ends up deleted on both. here's the annoying catch: the program needs to be tolerant of shiity internet. e.g. able to resume failed downloads instead of just restarting the failed file transfer.
2016-04-10T16:39:14 < mitrax> rsync
2016-04-10T16:39:46 < BrainDamage> rsync will only do one way, you'll need scripts to do both ways and handle conflicts, etc
2016-04-10T16:39:57 < upgrdman> hmmm k
2016-04-10T16:39:57 < BrainDamage> if you want a readily made solution, syncthing
2016-04-10T16:40:32 < BrainDamage> it sits as daemon and syncs 2 ways and lets you chose conflict policy resolution and various other stuff
2016-04-10T16:40:37 < BrainDamage> it's some sort of personal dropbox
2016-04-10T16:42:25 < upgrdman> do you know if syncthing is fault tolerant? e.g. if a 10GB file transfer fails after 8GB, will it resume or start over at byte 0?
2016-04-10T16:43:09 < BrainDamage> not sure, it has decent docs and a moderately active channel at #syncthing
2016-04-10T16:43:16 < BrainDamage> try either docs or channel
2016-04-10T16:43:16 < upgrdman> cool
2016-04-10T16:43:19 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-10T16:46:19 < mitrax> syncthing looks nice
2016-04-10T16:47:57 < englishman> Dropbox
2016-04-10T16:48:20 < upgrdman> englishman, middleman will add problems for me
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2016-04-10T16:49:03 < upgrdman> also, need to transfer maybe 100GB / month
2016-04-10T16:49:09 < englishman> pwncloud
2016-04-10T16:50:56 < upgrdman> someone in #syncthing says it will resume. yay
2016-04-10T16:55:22 < jpa-> syncthing looks nice
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2016-04-10T17:10:55 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8GFpSCK6Jk
2016-04-10T17:12:35 < kakimir> sup Laurenceb_
2016-04-10T17:12:37 < kakimir> sup all
2016-04-10T17:12:45 < dongs> sup bloggers
2016-04-10T17:12:51 < dongs> kikemir, have you innovated anything lately
2016-04-10T17:13:47 < kakimir> I'm sorry
2016-04-10T17:15:00 < kakimir> how about anything innovation going on in dongs skunk works?
2016-04-10T17:15:55 < kakimir> see that link for innovation
2016-04-10T17:16:57 < dongs> ohsix already assburgered that link few hours ago, sadly
2016-04-10T17:17:04 < dongs> pretty cool machien, i wonder what the accuracy is
2016-04-10T17:17:26 < kakimir> I wonder too
2016-04-10T17:17:46 < kakimir> propably just fine for basic workshop shiet
2016-04-10T17:18:12 < kakimir> have good drill bits to it
2016-04-10T17:18:50 < kakimir> and very short ones
2016-04-10T17:19:11 < kakimir> I don't fully buy their tape marker thing
2016-04-10T17:19:37 < kakimir> I would use some prisms fixed to object being cut
2016-04-10T17:20:18 < kakimir> but tape marker of course is the fastest thing to set up
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2016-04-10T17:30:20 < kakimir> I did not
2016-04-10T17:30:26 < kakimir> I almost did
2016-04-10T17:30:47 < kakimir> I need to concentrate on my oven control board
2016-04-10T17:31:01 < kakimir> and then fix tig welder with the same board
2016-04-10T17:31:34 < BrainDamage> remember that every diode can emit light, you just have to increase current
2016-04-10T17:33:11 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2GcdpJiNGfKOHRrdGlhTmt2VTA&usp=sharing there something
2016-04-10T17:35:15 < dongs> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/JkaZO3-ENMLdf2iykjkQEaGTua4sNfsA040aIUxGZw3P5q1_ICpIwNQmWtQbw1wJuWU90Q=w2560-h1894
2016-04-10T17:35:19 < dongs> dem sma's
2016-04-10T17:36:10 < kakimir> had to change to straight ones because collide with the sma controller
2016-04-10T17:36:19 < kakimir> and right angled cables!
2016-04-10T17:37:03 < dongs> time to freelance, tehn sleep
2016-04-10T17:37:30 < dongs> nothing good.
2016-04-10T17:37:43 < Laurenceb_> equine ECG :P
2016-04-10T17:37:46 < aandrew> yep so it's something FreeRTOS or the cmsis layer is doing
2016-04-10T17:37:50 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Technical-Writing/Series-Circuit-Multisim/ read this as series circuit by muslim
2016-04-10T17:38:01 < dongs> aandrew: maybe IRQ priortieis?
2016-04-10T17:38:05 < dongs> iirc USB needs to be pretty high
2016-04-10T17:38:53 < dongs> See the files attached. The format and the design information is attached.
2016-04-10T17:38:53 < dongs> Deadline : Sunday 10th, April 2016.
2016-04-10T17:38:53 < dongs> Work should be plagiarism free.
2016-04-10T17:38:53 < dongs> Budget : 30$
2016-04-10T17:39:09 < kakimir> crt: you need to buy your own one
2016-04-10T17:39:10 < aandrew> if I initialize the USB driver in main() and do not call osKernelStart() it works fine. if I init USB before osKernelStart() it kind of shows up on the PC but can't select a config
2016-04-10T17:39:16 < kakimir> to touch it and play with it
2016-04-10T17:39:26 < aandrew> if I init in a RTOS thread same thing
2016-04-10T17:39:41 < aandrew> dongs: I can try reconfiguring, maybe freertos is doing something goofy there
2016-04-10T17:39:42 < kakimir> I can give you the part number
2016-04-10T17:39:58 < dongs> aandrew: when do you "connet" usb
2016-04-10T17:39:59 < dongs> connect
2016-04-10T17:40:11 < dongs> F4 has the connect stuff on-chip right?
2016-04-10T17:40:15 < dongs> 1.5k pullup + config for it
2016-04-10T17:40:18 < aandrew> yes it's all internal
2016-04-10T17:40:30 < aandrew> just direct connect, although I've modded a board to add 22R in series with D+/D- as some things spec it
2016-04-10T17:40:41 < dongs> cuz once you connect youre supposed to answer whatever shit (zyp knows) within a short period of time or else usb borks
2016-04-10T17:40:42 < aandrew> as I said, if I do not call osKernelStart() it works
2016-04-10T17:40:45 < aandrew> so it's not HW
2016-04-10T17:40:51 < dongs> aandrew: not gonna make a diff there
2016-04-10T17:40:52 < aandrew> yes that's standard USB shit
2016-04-10T17:40:54 < kakimir> crt: AGP2923-153KL
2016-04-10T17:41:14 < kakimir> I wonder is chinese air particle counters are any good
2016-04-10T17:41:43 < jadew> kakimir, if you buy one let me know, I want one too
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2016-04-10T17:42:06 < jadew> lots of noise in my room
2016-04-10T17:42:52 < kakimir> like 10
2016-04-10T17:43:03 < kakimir> if boostin
2016-04-10T17:43:31 < dongs> for some reason link to that inductor is in my browser history
2016-04-10T17:43:48 < kakimir> we had autism over it dongs
2016-04-10T17:43:52 < dongs> oh yeah
2016-04-10T17:43:53 < dongs> the 3d model
2016-04-10T17:43:55 < dongs> that link is also blue
2016-04-10T17:44:09 < dongs> and you said that 3d model didnt work in opensores shit
2016-04-10T17:46:48 < kakimir> you have short memory on autism sessions
2016-04-10T17:46:51 < kakimir> it's good
2016-04-10T17:51:11 < BrainDamage> that's part of the autism
2016-04-10T17:51:52 < kakimir> not his sessions - mine
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2016-04-10T17:53:50 < Laurenceb_> kakimir is autistic over your body
2016-04-10T17:54:22 < Laurenceb_> sup honey I got you some autism for valentines
2016-04-10T17:56:45 < kakimir> :D
2016-04-10T17:57:30 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNI-T-UT-338C-VOC-PM2-5-Air-Quality-Detector-Data-Logger-Monitor-US-Plug-4Z0H-/381387239538 oh this looks betters
2016-04-10T17:57:39 < BrainDamage> too bad irc has no avatars, you could wear the awerenss ribbon
2016-04-10T17:58:12 < kakimir> I wonder if that usb has some serial protocol to it
2016-04-10T17:58:24 < dongs> doesnt connect to int ernet
2016-04-10T17:58:25 < dongs> no deal
2016-04-10T17:58:31 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-10T17:58:43 < kakimir> I bet ethernet connected are like 1k a pop
2016-04-10T17:58:50 < kakimir> min
2016-04-10T18:03:01 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GP2Y1010AU0F-Compact-Optical-Dust-Sensor-Smoke-Particle-Sensor-With-Cable-NEW-CF-/272041590308 what did I find
2016-04-10T18:03:21 < kakimir> some sensor module to arduino
2016-04-10T18:05:37 < dongs> chips-fans
2016-04-10T18:07:48 < Laurenceb_> the amionfire sensor
2016-04-10T18:08:09 < Laurenceb_> https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/images/thumb/8/86/Donotbeonfire.jpg/400px-Donotbeonfire.jpg
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2016-04-10T18:10:14 < dongs> http://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5884/5884334_sa.jpg;canvasHeight=500;canvasWidth=500 why nobody sells a cable with the right-side connector on both ends?
2016-04-10T18:10:52 < dongs> kakimir problem solver cable rev0
2016-04-10T18:12:15 < Laurenceb_> lulz
2016-04-10T18:19:14 < Steffanx> crt, not EU compatible.
2016-04-10T18:19:29 < Steffanx> i want a proper cable
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2016-04-10T18:23:55 < dongs> BREAKING: Earthquake felt simultaneously in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India and Nepal
2016-04-10T18:23:58 < dongs> RIP pakis
2016-04-10T18:24:26 < dongs> freelancer.com just lost half of its users
2016-04-10T18:24:42 < kakimir> good for business
2016-04-10T18:24:54 < dongs> jew told me my bid was too high
2016-04-10T18:25:04 < dongs> he's welcome to pay twice for dumb pakis
2016-04-10T18:27:59 < kakimir> savings at any cost
2016-04-10T18:28:17 < kakimir> typical finnish motto too
2016-04-10T18:28:47 < kakimir> in business and personal life
2016-04-10T18:30:01 < dongs> he will give stuff to pakis and they'll fuck it up anyway
2016-04-10T18:30:07 < dongs> so he'll have to pay another paki to fix it
2016-04-10T18:31:22 < kakimir> I learn more lunix every day even when I don't want to
2016-04-10T18:31:48 < kakimir> I seriously don't want to learn a signle thing about it but it seems I just start to understand it
2016-04-10T18:32:18 < kakimir> start to make sense
2016-04-10T18:32:26 < kakimir> I need stonings very soon
2016-04-10T18:33:07 < dongs> k last feelancer relaod and sleep
2016-04-10T18:33:09 < dongs> nope, nothing
2016-04-10T18:33:41 < kakimir> nite dongs
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2016-04-10T19:04:24 < wbraun> trying to get some simple USB stuff running on a STM32F0
2016-04-10T19:05:05 < wbraun> I should be able to use some program to view anything send to the computer to the /dev/ttyACM0?
2016-04-10T19:05:56 < wbraun> I have no clue if I am configuring things correctly on the stm32 side of things and it would be nice not to need to debug a host application at the same time…
2016-04-10T19:08:09 < kakimir> how hard debuggin lunix softwares is?
2016-04-10T19:08:19 < kakimir> running in rebugger and all
2016-04-10T19:08:45 < wbraun> I have never dealt with USB before, it would be nice to only have one unknown at a time
2016-04-10T19:08:52 < kakimir> I think as I'm third day into problem I need to concern setting it up
2016-04-10T19:09:19 < wbraun> I tried to run screen to connect to /dev/ttyACM0, but it keeps terminating.  So I dont think that works
2016-04-10T19:09:27 < Rickta59> lsusb?
2016-04-10T19:09:31 < Rickta59> is it enumerating?
2016-04-10T19:09:33 < Rickta59> dmesg?
2016-04-10T19:09:44 < kakimir> wbraun: hterm
2016-04-10T19:09:49 < wbraun> it enumerates
2016-04-10T19:10:11 < wbraun> I am using cubemx and the code it generates seems to configure the USB interface
2016-04-10T19:10:29 < Rickta59> your hardware or a nucleo board?
2016-04-10T19:10:37 < wbraun> my hardware
2016-04-10T19:10:52 < Rickta59> do you have proper pull ups? and resistors?
2016-04-10T19:11:19 < wbraun> it enumerates and everything. The documentation on the USB library is not the most helpful, so I am still figuring out how to send data
2016-04-10T19:11:30 < wbraun> STM32F072 has internal pullup
2016-04-10T19:11:58 < wbraun> if it enumerates and shows up with lsusb and in /dev/tty* I assume the hardware works
2016-04-10T19:11:59 < Rickta59> what resistance?
2016-04-10T19:12:36 < wbraun> I would actually assume screen would not work as I dont have it set up as a virtual com port or anything, its just a random device in ACM mode
2016-04-10T19:12:51 < Rickta59> a permission problem?
2016-04-10T19:12:55 < wbraun> the 1.5K or whatever is needed for USB Rickta59
2016-04-10T19:13:11 < wbraun> ooh, you were right
2016-04-10T19:13:13 < wbraun> premissions
2016-04-10T19:13:40 < wbraun> I am still a bit hazy on how ACM/CDC works
2016-04-10T19:13:51 < wbraun> if I send random data I should be able to see it with screen?
2016-04-10T19:14:02 < wbraun> Even though its not set up as a virtual com port or anything?
2016-04-10T19:14:08 < Rickta59> assuming something is echoing it back in your firmware
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2016-04-10T19:18:24 < wbraun> oh wow, it works!
2016-04-10T19:18:53 < wbraun> I have no clue what is going on / why this works
2016-04-10T19:19:06 < wbraun> its acting like a virtual com port
2016-04-10T19:19:13 < Rickta59> sounds like a sound basis for a product ;)
2016-04-10T19:19:16 < wbraun> but I did not have to install the ST drivers or anything
2016-04-10T19:19:37 < wbraun> or specify a baud rate for screen
2016-04-10T19:20:02 < wbraun> is this something that is not the same as a virtual com port?
2016-04-10T19:20:29 < Rickta59> lsmod | grep cdc_acm
2016-04-10T19:20:36 < Rickta59> that is the driver
2016-04-10T19:20:43 < wbraun> why would I need something like libusb then?
2016-04-10T19:22:02 < wbraun> also, the STM32 documentation refers to this as PSTN and never uses the term ACM
2016-04-10T19:24:12 < Laurenceb_> is this on windows or linux or what?
2016-04-10T19:24:24 < wbraun> linux
2016-04-10T19:24:28 < Laurenceb_> ah
2016-04-10T19:24:40 < Laurenceb_> you should see /dev/ttyACM<x>
2016-04-10T19:24:46 < Laurenceb_> where x is a number
2016-04-10T19:24:58 < wbraun> Yah, I have it spitting hello world out of that
2016-04-10T19:25:00 < Laurenceb_> also try lsusb
2016-04-10T19:25:07 < wbraun> everything works
2016-04-10T19:25:13 < kakimir> remember that chinese factory explosion
2016-04-10T19:25:54 < wbraun> Is this just emulating a serial port?
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2016-04-10T19:26:24 < wbraun> I was under the impression that I would need to use libusb to receive the data or something
2016-04-10T19:27:31 < Laurenceb_> its kind of a simplified serial port aiui
2016-04-10T19:28:44 < wbraun> does it just take whatever baud rate I tell it and that just affects the speed in which I can send things over USB?
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2016-04-10T19:29:30 < wbraun> I guess I am confused because I thought it would be more complicated than this and now I expect some hidden complexity somewhere to come and bite me.
2016-04-10T19:29:51 < Rickta59> there is lots of complexity .. you skipped a lot of it by using the cubemx stuff
2016-04-10T19:29:53 < Laurenceb_> https://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2013/03/05/what-is-the-difference-between-devttyusbx-and-devttyacmx/
2016-04-10T19:33:25 < wbraun> so ACM is only a subset of the CDC class
2016-04-10T19:33:48 < wbraun> I guess cubemx set up everything correctly for me so its just a serial port
2016-04-10T19:42:57 < kakimir> is there anything for C that format structure type instances for printing?
2016-04-10T19:43:12 < kakimir> like in python it creates those outputs without anything
2016-04-10T19:47:34 < jpa-> gdb?
2016-04-10T19:48:07 < jpa-> other than that, no, there isn't enough information available within the language
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2016-04-10T20:04:51 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6NVX1fUno
2016-04-10T20:04:53 < Laurenceb_> furries
2016-04-10T20:05:34 < mitrax> ahahahaha
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2016-04-10T20:43:20 < Steffanx> jpa- i was stalking you by visiting your website. Why your bachelor thesis says in the abstract its a master's degree thesis?
2016-04-10T20:45:35 < Laurenceb_> cuz fraud :P
2016-04-10T20:47:09 < Laurenceb_> my thesis is withheld :-/
2016-04-10T20:47:12 < Steffanx> The entire academic worls is a fraud, but that's probably not it this time.
2016-04-10T20:47:18 < Steffanx> *world
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2016-04-10T20:48:05 < Steffanx> Especially the academic paper crap. Where they always love out the details needed to get similar results as the authors.
2016-04-10T20:48:14 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-10T20:48:34 < Steffanx> *leav
2016-04-10T20:48:36 < Steffanx> e
2016-04-10T20:49:09 < Steffanx> hmpf, need to learn to type properly.
2016-04-10T20:49:41 < lorenzo> humanities are the worst I think when it comes to academic stuff
2016-04-10T20:50:04 < lorenzo> in philosophy there's literally people copying and pasting random stuff just to increase their publication count
2016-04-10T20:50:10 < lorenzo> and I mean literally random stuff
2016-04-10T20:50:18 < lorenzo> and a full circlejerk of close friends who quote each other
2016-04-10T20:50:23 < lorenzo> to get the damn ratio or whatever index up :D
2016-04-10T20:50:48 < lorenzo> not sure if that happens in other fields too
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2016-04-10T20:54:47 < Steffanx> of course it happens there too
2016-04-10T20:54:52 < Steffanx> Ask Laurenceb_ :P
2016-04-10T20:54:58 < Steffanx> but he will probably deny it
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2016-04-10T21:18:02 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-10T21:18:12 < Laurenceb_> I have literally one published paper :-/
2016-04-10T21:18:39 < Laurenceb_> I planned to have 5, but its so hard to publish :(
2016-04-10T21:18:51 < Laurenceb_> the one I did get published took close to 2 years work
2016-04-10T21:20:30 < Laurenceb_> all the happened was one of the other authors got in major shit
2016-04-10T21:20:32 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-35787095
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2016-04-10T21:20:52 < Steffanx> hah
2016-04-10T21:21:13 < Laurenceb_> too much politics :(
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2016-04-10T23:20:28 < ReadError> ohsix IS THERE ANY STM32 IN THE NEST???
2016-04-10T23:20:40 < ReadError> whoop whoop TOPIC POLICE
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2016-04-10T23:45:48 < aandrew> nope doesn't seem to be a priority thing
2016-04-10T23:46:10 < aandrew> by default the stm32 HAL driver sets the USB interrupt to the lowest priority (3,0), setting it to highest (0,0) didn't change a thing
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2016-04-10T23:59:48 < aandrew> does FreeRTOS need to know anything about hardware timers? I'm using TIM3, tried TIM4 just to see but no change
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2016-04-11T00:06:56 < karlp> aandrew: not in my useages of it,
2016-04-11T00:07:13 < aandrew> yeah I think I'm chasing the wrong problem
2016-04-11T00:07:21 < aandrew> unfortunatey USB enumeration is convoluted
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2016-04-11T01:53:49 < kakimir> movie recs
2016-04-11T01:53:52 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-11T01:55:23 < mitrax> "rectale romance"
2016-04-11T01:55:34 < mitrax> it's very good... very moving
2016-04-11T01:55:57 < kakimir> if it has romance in name of it
2016-04-11T01:56:23 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-11T01:56:28 < kakimir> rectale
2016-04-11T01:57:34 < kakimir> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1401152/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_34 there something Liam Neeson that was just running on tv tonight
2016-04-11T01:58:15 < BrainDamage> a serbian film and cannibal holocaust should fit you well
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2016-04-11T01:58:40 < mitrax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2USXEJuvXT4
2016-04-11T01:58:41 < kakimir> I think I have watched some of those when I was edgy teen
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2016-04-11T02:04:48 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-11T02:04:50 < kakimir> butt crack
2016-04-11T02:05:09 < Laurenceb_> can we persuade kakimir to watch those movies one after the other
2016-04-11T02:05:29 < kakimir> I fucking hate debugging shiet that someone else pooped out and left to smell
2016-04-11T02:05:45 < kakimir> lunix
2016-04-11T02:06:43 < kakimir> but I like it also somehow I keep doing it and voice inside cries me to stop
2016-04-11T02:06:55 < kakimir> perversion
2016-04-11T02:08:42 < mitrax> kakimir: you're aware those last two sentences will be pasted out of context later on right?
2016-04-11T02:09:01 < kakimir> I know
2016-04-11T02:09:25 < kakimir> for teh lulz
2016-04-11T02:10:19 < mitrax> rhoids
2016-04-11T02:11:26 < mitrax> crt: and then guy said "you want fries with that?" ahahah, unbelievable
2016-04-11T02:11:48 < kakimir> crt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4DU6CZKfU there ou hve ledes
2016-04-11T02:12:50 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-11T02:12:55 < kakimir> ulticrap
2016-04-11T02:13:35 < kakimir> disposable ones
2016-04-11T02:14:04 < kakimir> lever them off after session and put new ones in
2016-04-11T02:17:16 < Laurenceb_> kakimir I found your waifu
2016-04-11T02:17:18 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/KfpAnjK
2016-04-11T02:18:30 < mitrax> why?
2016-04-11T02:18:51 < kakimir> nice dog
2016-04-11T02:24:46 < mitrax> stm32 UID are unique through the whole product range right? i.e no conflict possible between e.g an F0 UID and F4 UID?
2016-04-11T02:26:15 < mitrax> that would be retarded if they weren't, but i thought i'd ask
2016-04-11T02:26:26 < mitrax> yes
2016-04-11T02:34:19 < mitrax> they use the wafer number and x & y position
2016-04-11T02:34:27 < mitrax> among other stuff
2016-04-11T02:35:31 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2016-04-11T02:35:32 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GMnYRQrTr0
2016-04-11T02:35:39 < Laurenceb_> rockoons made simple
2016-04-11T02:39:11 < mitrax> he's probably sleeping
2016-04-11T02:39:15 < mitrax> 1h40am in germany
2016-04-11T02:41:07 < Laurenceb_> why sleep when you can irc
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2016-04-11T03:05:07 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4DU6CZKfU
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2016-04-11T03:30:10 < upgrdman> so i can use __disable_irq() to mask interrupts, but does that also mean that when the function returns any existing interrupts have completed?
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2016-04-11T03:30:23 < dongs> wut
2016-04-11T03:30:37 < dongs> __disable irq returns immediately
2016-04-11T03:30:43 < upgrdman> ok
2016-04-11T03:30:55 < dongs> its just cmsis intrinsic that ends up being some single instrcution
2016-04-11T03:31:02 < upgrdman> how can i check that some interrupt that was part way through is done, after calling __disable_irq()
2016-04-11T03:31:19 < upgrdman> hmm actually i guess i dont need to
2016-04-11T03:31:31 < upgrdman> since im calling it from main() and not another ISR
2016-04-11T03:33:01 < dongs> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0491h/CJAFBCBB.html
2016-04-11T03:33:33 < dongs> CPSID i looks like
2016-04-11T03:33:38 < dongs> for what it expand into
2016-04-11T03:34:22 < dongs> and returns primask
2016-04-11T03:38:59 < upgrdman> get 50ma rcd?
2016-04-11T03:41:35 < aandrew> fuck this.
2016-04-11T03:41:43 < aandrew> at least I have a minimal software setup now
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2016-04-11T03:41:56 < aandrew> with USE_FREETROS undefined, it works. with USE_FREERTOS defined, it doesn't.
2016-04-11T03:52:18 < aandrew> https://github.com/mixdownengineering/stm32cube-freertos-cdc
2016-04-11T03:52:47 < aandrew> you can build it either way by chanign the define in main.h
2016-04-11T04:00:29 < kakimir> I found the movie
2016-04-11T04:01:43 < kakimir> "Er Ist Wieder Da"
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2016-04-11T04:46:38 < aandrew> I may have figured out why it doesn't work
2016-04-11T04:46:53 < aandrew> FreeRTOS *requires* systick to have the lowest priority
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2016-04-11T04:47:36 < aandrew> the USB Device driver is completely interrupt-driven, and uses delays.. which uses systick
2016-04-11T04:52:26 < aandrew> http://www.freertos.org/RTOS-Cortex-M3-M4.html is a good page
2016-04-11T05:00:59 < Sync> o0
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2016-04-11T05:06:06 < aandrew> yes, although solving this may be a big pain in the ass
2016-04-11T05:06:23 < aandrew> might have to set up a hardware timer to resolve this
2016-04-11T05:07:15 < aandrew> if the usb driver wants to wait around and use HAL_Delay() I can override that easily enough but the FreeRTOS equivalent is still going to rely on systick and by defintion it must be lowest priority so will never fire while the USB interrupt is spinning waiting
2016-04-11T05:10:56 < dongs> o
2016-04-11T05:11:01 < dongs> that explains it
2016-04-11T05:12:04 < dongs> you're on F4 right? just use DWCCNT-based delay()
2016-04-11T05:12:10 < dongs> fuck systick
2016-04-11T05:12:12 < aandrew> yes
2016-04-11T05:12:27 < aandrew> DWCCNT?  timer down counter?
2016-04-11T05:13:47 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/Olns3096.html
2016-04-11T05:13:59 < dongs> take out line 4 tho
2016-04-11T05:14:01 < dongs> er 24
2016-04-11T05:14:39 < aandrew> heh using the CoreDebug system for a down counter?
2016-04-11T05:14:47 < dongs> it works dude, everyone uses it
2016-04-11T05:14:52 < aandrew> ah cpu cycle conter
2016-04-11T05:14:53 < aandrew> counter
2016-04-11T05:14:54 < aandrew> got it
2016-04-11T05:14:55 < dongs> yes
2016-04-11T05:15:12 < aandrew> sounds like you're pushing weed
2016-04-11T05:15:15 < aandrew> "everyone's doing it"
2016-04-11T05:15:28 < dongs> hehe
2016-04-11T05:17:32 < dongs> probly some extra dickery for HAL/RCC stuff
2016-04-11T05:17:35 < dongs> but you get the idea
2016-04-11T05:17:43 < dongs> can just hardcode ticks/us also since you probly know it
2016-04-11T05:19:41 < aandrew> yep resolving those right now
2016-04-11T05:19:51 < aandrew> that's a slick workaround
2016-04-11T05:20:13 < aandrew> and it will work until such a time that I can untangle the usb driver so it works sanely instead of spinning in an interrupt
2016-04-11T05:24:33 < aandrew> depends on the interface
2016-04-11T05:24:42 < aandrew> the ls/fs one is all one interrupt
2016-04-11T05:24:49 < aandrew> the high speed one breaks out endpoint interrupts
2016-04-11T05:31:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Design-high-current-variable-power/
2016-04-11T05:32:01 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/ARM-embed-board-develop-open/
2016-04-11T05:39:19 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/ROBOT-MEASURING-ROOM-SIZE/
2016-04-11T05:40:48 < aandrew> fuck, that doesn't seem to be it. the delay routine is never called
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2016-04-11T05:46:59 < englishman> haha
2016-04-11T05:46:59 < englishman> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Simple-Schematic-Design-with-axis/
2016-04-11T05:47:05 < englishman> Please add to your first sentence in bid:
2016-04-11T05:47:06 < englishman> "I have experiance with bn055" or "I do not have experiance with bn055"
2016-04-11T05:47:08 < englishman> nobody does this
2016-04-11T05:54:06 < dongs> thats to weed out pakis who dont read
2016-04-11T05:54:10 < dongs> ive seen a lot of those
2016-04-11T05:54:13 < englishman> yeah but nobody actually did it
2016-04-11T05:54:16 < englishman> with like 20 bids
2016-04-11T05:54:17 < dongs> of course
2016-04-11T05:54:43 < dongs> i've seen like "for us to even consider your bid, please start it with "bla bla"
2016-04-11T05:54:52 < dongs> and all auto-bidding pakis automatically fail
2016-04-11T05:57:44 < dongs> heh i ordered a $30 pc case and $40 power supply from japshop, they sent both separately (free shipping) and each send cost them $12
2016-04-11T05:58:03 < dongs> actually PC case was more like $16 cuz its bigger.
2016-04-11T05:58:42 < dongs> ownt
2016-04-11T05:59:00 < aandrew> balls
2016-04-11T05:59:01 < aandrew> you know what it is
2016-04-11T05:59:06 < dongs> sup
2016-04-11T05:59:08 < dongs> fixed?
2016-04-11T05:59:23 < aandrew> the fucking FreeRTOS maloc() implementation hangs (intentionally) if you try to malloc() in an interrupt handler
2016-04-11T05:59:29 < dongs> lewl
2016-04-11T05:59:36 < dongs> now thats fuckin pro
2016-04-11T06:02:38 < aandrew> boom.
2016-04-11T06:02:39 < aandrew> fixed.
2016-04-11T06:11:14 < dongs> with a variable resistor
2016-04-11T06:11:57 < dongs> http://www.mf-powerresistor.com/images/Rheostat.JPG
2016-04-11T06:11:58 < dongs> need one of these
2016-04-11T06:13:28 < dongs> hm those are only 150W
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2016-04-11T07:31:11 < dongs> how many more in pakistan
2016-04-11T07:47:53 < lorenzo> ohsix: sorry, just woke up. no, the people who bullshit like that don't make it into the top journals (I don't even think there's a journal there for philosophy, but I'm sure the neuroscience journal has some philosophers writing in it)
2016-04-11T07:48:17 < lorenzo> and maybe the economics ones too
2016-04-11T07:49:33 < lorenzo> ohsix: ah well, I don't know about other fields. I've read that most papers published on medical journals have some serious lack of proper statistics to back up the data
2016-04-11T07:50:58 < lorenzo> statistical literacy in biology and related fields has always been quite lacking, especially hypothesis testing (p-values et al)
2016-04-11T07:51:20 < lorenzo> so on a repeated batch of tests you basically don't know if there's a correlation
2016-04-11T07:51:22 < lorenzo> or it was just sheer luck
2016-04-11T07:52:01 < lorenzo> ohsix: very related https://xkcd.com/882/
2016-04-11T07:54:29 < lorenzo> anyway time to catch a train
2016-04-11T07:54:29 < lorenzo> later
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2016-04-11T07:58:21 < aandrew> now my next trick si trying to get the HS port runnign using its embedded PHY (I know it'll only work in FS)
2016-04-11T08:09:14 < jpa-> Steffanx: yeah, i know, typo (didn't remember to edit the template) and no-one noticed before it was already accepted etc.
2016-04-11T08:10:13 < jpa-> and because it is latex, 1) if i pdf-edit it, it craps the whole document and 2) if i recompile it, it also craps out stuff (some latex libs changed or something..)
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2016-04-11T08:58:25 < dongs> what makes you think im interested?
2016-04-11T09:05:54 < dongs> im just doing it to you to get bongs in your youtube history
2016-04-11T09:06:34 < dongs> check under the battery holder
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2016-04-11T09:29:52 < dongs> http://www.butterflylabs.com/current_refund_efforts/
2016-04-11T09:30:10 < dongs> anyone else thought asics.com was the best place to buy buttcoin miner hardware??
2016-04-11T09:30:49 < dongs> http://www.butterflylabs.com/addressing-misperceptions/
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2016-04-11T09:31:16 < dongs> Statement: BFL voluntarily paid over $6 million in refunds in 2013 during our 65nm production. BFL paid over $14 million in refunds in 2014.
2016-04-11T09:31:18 < dongs> holy fucking shit
2016-04-11T09:31:32 < dongs> i shoulda got into buttcoin mining before it b ecame lame
2016-04-11T09:31:57 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/nKdsa0D.jpg i think i need to make a new jump pack
2016-04-11T09:35:04 < PeterM> just a little swollen, its still good.
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2016-04-11T09:38:56 < PeterM> i've used it for all kinds of shit over the past 3 years, routinely starting farm machinery, lighting fires when matches/lighters not available, but i think i pushed it a bit hard today...
2016-04-11T09:40:11 < dongs> what is it , hardcase hobbydong lipos?
2016-04-11T09:40:16 < PeterM> yerp
2016-04-11T09:40:25 < PeterM> 4 in parallul
2016-04-11T09:40:47 < PeterM> they're the $25 5000mah 4s packs
2016-04-11T09:41:47 < dongs> sounds b-grade
2016-04-11T09:41:56 < dongs> do those come in hardpack?
2016-04-11T09:42:07 < dongs> i got some b-grades 3S in series in ebike
2016-04-11T09:42:08 < dongs> works good
2016-04-11T09:42:17 < dongs> wont cry too much if they leave it on and drain to zero
2016-04-11T09:42:17 < PeterM> at worst, in the past the leads have gotten warm when starting this particular tractor, but today it started it no worries, but puffed real hardcore
2016-04-11T09:42:33 < PeterM> nah, not b-grade, begrade deosnt come in hardpack
2016-04-11T09:43:12 < PeterM> the reject stuff is sold as bgrade much cheaper
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2016-04-11T09:43:23 < PeterM> also how the fuck are you not on my ignroe list anymore?
2016-04-11T09:44:10 < PeterM> err, i dont have crt on ignore
2016-04-11T09:44:57 < PeterM> sure he talks about pumping every now and again but your shit jsut continually clogs up chats, or when there is no chats, shows as new messages  when its jsut rubbish
2016-04-11T09:47:15 < PeterM> yeah, this client does that too but for some fuckign reson you're nto on ignroe anymroe
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2016-04-11T10:18:11 < dongs> > .py no thanks
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2016-04-11T10:25:51 < dongs> nice. minidp version of ipad thing is selling about 1:1 with the fullsize.
2016-04-11T10:25:54 < dongs> without any advertising
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2016-04-11T10:27:26 < PeterM> dongs are overall sales up or is it splitting 50-50
2016-04-11T10:28:01 < dongs> it's a bit up since japs blogged few weeks ago, but the current stuff is about 50/50 yea
2016-04-11T10:28:25 < dongs> i preassembled a bunch and the piles are decreasing at same rate.
2016-04-11T10:29:41 < dongs> sure
2016-04-11T10:32:12 < PeterM> noice - i wonder if you could do a shitty 3dprinted case design for the LCD and link it to shapeways or some shit so when people buy they're like "oh shit, i dont need to worry abotu the case even"
2016-04-11T10:32:35 < dongs> japs already did that
2016-04-11T10:32:42 < dongs> they have a bunch of acrylic/shit models that they sell
2016-04-11T10:32:46 < dongs> i link to a couple of htem from product page
2016-04-11T10:33:16 < dongs> 3d printed is kinda crap cuz you need a huge area
2016-04-11T10:33:20 < dongs> actually my 3d dicker should be able to do it
2016-04-11T10:33:51 < dongs> but yeah or cheapass picture frames and stuff
2016-04-11T10:34:17 < PeterM> yeah, i dont mean you should make it, jsut gief links to models, so lazy people can click like 10 times and everythingthey need is on its way
2016-04-11T10:34:20 < dongs> http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/222/222150/ this is hte last time japs blogged about it
2016-04-11T10:34:44 < PeterM> lolwut
2016-04-11T10:34:53 < PeterM> that looks like chink level clonerism design
2016-04-11T10:36:04 < dongs> hehe the stand is some tablet/something stand
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2016-04-11T10:49:23 < dongs>  /notstm32 ohsix
2016-04-11T10:49:31 < dongs> ^ thats the name of my alias
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2016-04-11T11:04:53 < dongs> Please do not use the offensive term "Swede." The residents of Sweden should properly be called "Persons of African or Islamic Descent" or "PAID" thank you.
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2016-04-11T11:50:05 < dongs> Did you know? Pepper spray is illegal in Sweden as it infringes on the natural right of refugees to rape.
2016-04-11T11:52:50 < PeterM> why does this https://www.safehomeproducts.com/shp2/data/pictures/ES-MINCRO-001_Cat.jpg + http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/ec22.jpg seems like an awesome idea?
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2016-04-11T11:55:21 < dongs> lol is the 1st one a compressed air horn thingy
2016-04-11T11:57:19 < PeterM> the first one is a PIR + some kind of pressurized spray can for getting rid of cats
2016-04-11T11:57:32 < dongs> ohh
2016-04-11T11:57:34 < dongs> i thought it was manual
2016-04-11T11:57:36 < dongs> thats nice ahhaha
2016-04-11T11:57:42 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-11T11:57:48 < PeterM> that would be fuckin awesome
2016-04-11T11:57:49 < dongs> yeah i see the snesor thing below now
2016-04-11T11:59:02 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGh5aE5VGoI
2016-04-11T12:01:12 < PeterM> i believe ive linked this here already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8
2016-04-11T12:02:30 < PeterM> but yeah, PIR spray can + pepper  spray can seems like an awesome idea - i need to find where i can buy these
2016-04-11T12:04:04 < dongs> https://youtu.be/uIbkLjjlMV8?t=184
2016-04-11T12:04:05 < dongs> lols
2016-04-11T12:04:12 < dongs> his led lights up when he touches it with iron?
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2016-04-11T12:05:15 < zyp> sup?
2016-04-11T12:05:33 < dongs> zyp, not much, making your shit tomrorow
2016-04-11T12:05:38 < dongs> finally got all the garbage together i think
2016-04-11T12:06:04 < zyp> ah, cool
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2016-04-11T12:09:56 < dongs> https://youtu.be/uIbkLjjlMV8?t=454 thats gr8
2016-04-11T12:10:30 < dongs> https://youtu.be/uIbkLjjlMV8?t=451 rather
2016-04-11T12:12:30 < zyp> isn't that what cats do?
2016-04-11T12:13:14 < dongs> i saw some jap CM yesterday using call me maybe song
2016-04-11T12:13:22 < dongs> or whatever its called
2016-04-11T12:13:47 < zyp> heh
2016-04-11T12:15:42 < PeterM> should i feel honoured that dongie watched a video i linked for more than 10 seconds?
2016-04-11T12:16:05 < dongs> i lasted way longer than most ohsix vid
2016-04-11T12:16:10 < dongs> those get insta-closed most of hte time
2016-04-11T12:17:13 < dongs> old as shit
2016-04-11T12:17:48 < dongs> wat
2016-04-11T12:18:16 < dongs> i see no dong links
2016-04-11T12:18:21 < PeterM> he did a part 2, also super old
2016-04-11T12:19:10 < dongs> assburger6
2016-04-11T12:19:18 < dongs> again off to some fuckedup tangent that makes no snense
2016-04-11T12:21:46 < dongs> sorry my attention span is liek 30 seconds
2016-04-11T12:43:32 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfuem5ZUEAAgcHm.jpg
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2016-04-11T13:00:58 < dongs> Your 30 days free license has expired.
2016-04-11T13:00:59 < dongs> Please fax your License File/Registration and License Request Request Form to Lattice Semiconductor Corp.
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2016-04-11T13:17:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/expert-calculus-needed-for-huge/
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2016-04-11T13:38:42 < karlp> don't want to deal with licensing? don't worry, mentor's got you covered: http://bcas.tv/paste/results/HirIDk54.html
2016-04-11T13:40:17 < dongs> sounds liek aplan
2016-04-11T13:40:32 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Hh5cSGe.png
2016-04-11T13:42:03 < BrainDamage> vape only stores are actually ominously common here
2016-04-11T13:50:41 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
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2016-04-11T13:55:33 < karlp> I'm confused, is the CAS BACnet stack free or do I have to pay for it?
2016-04-11T13:55:33 < karlp> A: The CAS BACnet stack is royalty free, and free of charge but we require you to buy 100 hours of support to help you integrate the BACnet stackin to your device.
2016-04-11T14:03:40 < zyp> hmm, looks like I managed to fuck up altium
2016-04-11T14:03:47 < jonsowman> can anyone give me some insight as to what might be happening here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/jt6e1ruci3cmc20/Screenshot%202016-04-10%2012.17.34.png?dl=0
2016-04-11T14:03:50 < zyp> "Access violation at address 00000002. Read of address 00000002 at 00000002."
2016-04-11T14:04:04 < zyp> it continues running, but pops up more of those
2016-04-11T14:04:09 < jonsowman> it seems the master just stops clocking during the final (n)ack
2016-04-11T14:04:22 < zyp> "ok, let's me just save, quit and restart", but no
2016-04-11T14:04:30 < zyp> "Exception Occured In SaveObject"
2016-04-11T14:05:26 < zyp> "External exception EEDFADE at 76D2C42D.
2016-04-11T14:05:27 < zyp> KERNELBASE.dll, Base Address: 76D20000."
2016-04-11T14:06:25 < zyp> jonsowman, in what sense?
2016-04-11T14:06:59 < jonsowman> the clock goes high for the ack pulse and just stays there, sda stays low
2016-04-11T14:07:40 < jonsowman> the whole transaction just appears to stop at that point instead of scl returning low, then a stop bit
2016-04-11T14:08:54 < zyp> looks like host is misbehaving
2016-04-11T14:12:17 < zyp> which chip is the host?
2016-04-11T14:12:52 < jonsowman> stm32
2016-04-11T14:12:53 < zyp> I haven't seen the host inserting a delay between last data bit and ack bit on any of the ones I've worked with
2016-04-11T14:12:58 < zyp> sure, but which?
2016-04-11T14:13:06 < jonsowman> oh sorry, f030
2016-04-11T14:13:14 < zyp> ah, so that's I2Cv2
2016-04-11T14:13:21 < zyp> I've only worked with I2Cv1 parts
2016-04-11T14:13:31 < jonsowman> if a slave was holding sda low at that point, it wouldnt stop the master clocking,would it?
2016-04-11T14:13:40 < zyp> no
2016-04-11T14:13:45 < jonsowman> hmm
2016-04-11T14:13:50 < zyp> it's clearly the host misbehaving
2016-04-11T14:13:51 < jonsowman> it can only be the stm then
2016-04-11T14:13:54 < jonsowman> yes
2016-04-11T14:14:37 < jonsowman> thanks, I will investigate further
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2016-04-11T14:23:22 < dongs> zyp, ctrl+s, and quit it
2016-04-11T14:23:46 < dongs> oh, owned @ safve
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2016-04-11T14:25:57 < dongs> its all in pascal
2016-04-11T14:26:22 < dongs> it has COM interface most likely
2016-04-11T14:26:46 < dongs> dont know/care
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2016-04-11T14:37:22 < zyp> dongs, yeah, save during quit seemed to work
2016-04-11T14:37:25 < zyp> so it worked out
2016-04-11T14:39:38 < jonsowman> zyp: so this is comms between stm and slave A. if I put slave B into shutdown (disables its i2c interface) during the transaction it works ok
2016-04-11T14:39:55 < jonsowman> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6vr1dae9f2zkvga/Screenshot%202016-04-10%2012.22.40.png?dl=0
2016-04-11T14:40:08 < jonsowman> i am thoroughly confused
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2016-04-11T14:48:01 < zyp> oh
2016-04-11T14:48:35 < zyp> then I guess other slave is doing clock stretching to keep up even when not addressed
2016-04-11T14:49:13 < zyp> which confuses the other parts or something
2016-04-11T14:50:08 < jonsowman> shouldn't it be holding scl low though?
2016-04-11T14:50:17 < jonsowman> it doesn't complete the falling (n)ack edge
2016-04-11T14:53:27 < zyp> clock stretching is a slave forcing scl low, yes
2016-04-11T14:53:46 < zyp> I'm thinking particularly between last data bit and the ack bit for the working bytes
2016-04-11T14:54:00 < jonsowman> yes indeed
2016-04-11T14:54:06 < zyp> don't know how that makes it fail though
2016-04-11T14:54:13 < jonsowman> whereas in the first screenshot, scl stays high (forever)
2016-04-11T14:54:23 < jonsowman> and sda stays low forever
2016-04-11T14:54:33 < zyp> maybe checking the actual bus level with a scope would help
2016-04-11T14:54:47 < jonsowman> hmm yes
2016-04-11T14:54:51 < zyp> a digital trace doesn't give you the full picture
2016-04-11T14:54:57 < jonsowman> ok, will do
2016-04-11T14:58:13 < jpa-> jonsowman: maybe you are hitting some timeout due to the stretch?
2016-04-11T14:58:38 < jonsowman> jpa-: it doesn't seem to be a valid stretch though? since scl is high
2016-04-11T14:58:53 < jonsowman> if it were a slave clock stretching, scl would be low, but it's high
2016-04-11T14:59:45 < jpa-> i mean the first one, perhaps
2016-04-11T15:00:35 < jonsowman> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jt6e1ruci3cmc20/Screenshot%202016-04-10%2012.17.34.png?dl=0
2016-04-11T15:00:36 < jonsowman> this one?
2016-04-11T15:00:59 < jonsowman> sda just stays low, scl high
2016-04-11T15:01:09 < jonsowman> for at least the 10 seconds i sampled for
2016-04-11T15:02:59 < zyp> was it you having problems the other day with sda being sampled too fast after slave releases clock stretching, or was that somebody else?
2016-04-11T15:03:17 < jonsowman> that was me
2016-04-11T15:03:30 < jonsowman> that turned out to be the pullups being too strong
2016-04-11T15:03:41 < zyp> is this the same circuit?
2016-04-11T15:03:49 < jonsowman> yes, but with an additional i2c slave
2016-04-11T15:04:06 < zyp> is it the same or new slave misbehaving this time?
2016-04-11T15:04:24 < jonsowman> the screenshot is communication with the same slave, but it seems that the new slave is causing the issue
2016-04-11T15:04:39 < jonsowman> since if I physically remove it, or put it into shutdown, this doesn't happen
2016-04-11T15:04:52 < zyp> maybe the new problem is too weak pullups :)
2016-04-11T15:05:18 < zyp> so that it doesn't cope with the additional capacitance from another slave
2016-04-11T15:05:26 < jonsowman> so the new slave has internal 50k pullups
2016-04-11T15:05:48 < jonsowman> old slave worked with just the stm32 internal pullups (about 40k istr?)
2016-04-11T15:06:12 < zyp> unsure, those are pretty weak in either case
2016-04-11T15:06:33 < jonsowman> I'll fit 10k, which is what the old-slave-datasheet recommends
2016-04-11T15:06:34 < zyp> again, a scope trace will show this
2016-04-11T15:06:44 < jonsowman> yes indeed
2016-04-11T15:07:20 < jonsowman> i dislike i2c
2016-04-11T15:10:33 < zyp> I think most people here would agree
2016-04-11T15:10:48 < jonsowman> :)
2016-04-11T15:10:54 < jonsowman> anyway I will do some digging
2016-04-11T15:10:56 < jonsowman> thanks for your help
2016-04-11T15:21:13 < Getty> wow.... new episode of the new season of fear of the walking dead just needed 2 minutes to make me angry again about the increased level of stupidity of the characters......
2016-04-11T15:22:46 < Getty> "we are surrounded by zombies, but i can't let go of that dead body, i will for sure be the reason why we are attacked by zombies, but i still wanna stay at the dead body i cant rescue!"
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2016-04-11T15:25:02 < mitrax> i gave up in the middle of the second season
2016-04-11T15:25:23 < Getty> yeah i think i will give up there too, its the first episode of 2nd season here in germany
2016-04-11T15:25:41 < Getty> i actually already wanted to stop at first season but ..... its enough to be watched.... what else to watch....
2016-04-11T15:28:23 < karlp> is that the LA based spin off set in the same time frame?
2016-04-11T15:28:29 < Getty> its before
2016-04-11T15:28:40 < Getty> its like what happened to the earth at the moment when it happened
2016-04-11T15:28:40 < mitrax> well, whenever someone tells me "hey i'm watching this, it sucks but there's nothing else" i picture someone in front of a plate full of shit
2016-04-11T15:28:50 < Getty> by storyline its SUPER interesting.... but they made it the most boring experience ever
2016-04-11T15:28:51 < mitrax> if it's shit, you don't eat it
2016-04-11T15:29:21 < Getty> mitrax: i am sitting 24/7 at the TV..... i just bought all ALF seasons on Amazon..... i am so bored ;)
2016-04-11T15:29:51 < mitrax> you're the zombie then :)
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2016-04-11T15:30:14 < Getty> BRAINS..... BRAINS!!!...... <lookaround>...... <goaway>..... BRAINS..... brains......
2016-04-11T15:31:40 < karlp> Getty: so it's all the time line when rick was in hospital sort of thing then? how much time has passed by the time they're in this second seson?
2016-04-11T15:32:07 < mitrax> supposedly not much
2016-04-11T15:32:08 < Getty> mh i think we talk about 2-3 days after the first zombie
2016-04-11T15:32:28 < Getty> the series starts with a homeless guy being attacked by zombies and that seemed to have been "the start"
2016-04-11T15:32:45 < Getty> and then the first season of the fear of the walking dead surrounds by the main character not believing what happens
2016-04-11T15:33:07 < Getty> its like all the years of zombie movies didnt prepared them ;)
2016-04-11T15:33:39 < mitrax> oh duh, the LA thing, didn't even watch that
2016-04-11T15:35:31 < Getty> wtf?! dont they have budget to show drowning people in the ocean?!?!
2016-04-11T15:35:45 < Getty> all people on board talk about the drowning people, you hear the drowning people in the background
2016-04-11T15:35:48 < Getty> but .... they are not shown
2016-04-11T15:35:55 < Getty> AH! now
2016-04-11T15:35:57 < Getty> wow ;)
2016-04-11T15:36:01 < Getty> that show sucks so hard
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2016-04-11T16:07:19 < Getty> ok, now it makes sense... the authors actually made a game out of it, what is the most stupid thing the character could do to make the life threatening situation even more dangerous, and thats how they picked what would happen.....
2016-04-11T16:08:54 < Getty> whos ohsix?
2016-04-11T16:11:24 < Getty> there are many people who like to talk ;) but watching fear of the walking dead, makes you like wanna spit out so many swear words at once....
2016-04-11T16:12:28 < Getty> watched walking dead?
2016-04-11T16:12:59 < Getty> fear of the walking dead is like less gory and more stupid
2016-04-11T16:14:37 < Getty> there might be moments where you wanna use your arms against yourself just to let the stupidity out you just saw
2016-04-11T16:16:59 < mitrax> and now for something completely different
2016-04-11T16:17:01 < mitrax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnhue-Rie6k
2016-04-11T16:17:36 < Getty> WHATS IN THE BOX??? oh wait wrong clip.....
2016-04-11T16:22:13 < mitrax> eh... i feel there's a new episode of WOZ coming
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2016-04-11T16:28:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-Layout-for-BGA/
2016-04-11T16:29:08 < dongs> 1500 INR = ~$22
2016-04-11T16:29:19 < dongs> i wouldn't  evne open a schematic with BGA for $22
2016-04-11T16:29:40 < dongs> bedtime
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2016-04-11T16:35:32 < ReadError> ohsix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVN6hu0vpOg&nohtml5=False
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2016-04-11T18:17:51 < ReadError> anyone know how to track a FE******* fedex number from china?
2016-04-11T18:17:55 < ReadError> not seen these before
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2016-04-11T18:28:40 < qyx> try 17track.net or similar sites
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2016-04-11T19:05:07 < ReadError> qyx ya no luck
2016-04-11T19:05:14 < ReadError> first thing I tried
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2016-04-11T19:09:34 < ReadError> oh damn https://imgur.com/gallery/NrBLn
2016-04-11T19:12:02 < Laurenceb> that actually looks realistic
2016-04-11T19:12:07 < Laurenceb> better than WWE
2016-04-11T19:12:17 < Laurenceb> but then anything is better than WWE
2016-04-11T19:16:28 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-11T19:16:32 < ReadError> looks legit \
2016-04-11T19:16:54 < ReadError> https://i.imgur.com/7BY7SOk.gifv
2016-04-11T19:17:00 < ReadError> how to fake this?
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2016-04-11T19:33:13 < karlp> thje jumping ont he back one, hanging off the ring looked kinda brutal as well.
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2016-04-11T19:36:41 < ReadError> yea makes all the american stuff look like a huge joke (not that it isnt already a fucking joke)
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2016-04-11T23:27:29 < qyx> mhm, if a LM5050 is given, can be the n-mosfet reversed to allow disconnecting Vout,
2016-04-11T23:27:32 < qyx> ?
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2016-04-11T23:32:36 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006YG8X9Y/
2016-04-11T23:32:40 < ReadError> for all yall muricans
2016-04-11T23:32:47 < ReadError> el cheapo laptop memory
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2016-04-12T00:22:44 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtW1Lq5c04E movie recmds
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2016-04-12T01:15:31 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJlYwoUJlY innovation
2016-04-12T01:16:06 < karlp> heh, "repairs" by grinding off the top of it.
2016-04-12T01:16:14 < karlp> no help if the damaged threads are further down.
2016-04-12T01:16:37 < kakimir> 90% it's the top
2016-04-12T01:17:17 < kakimir> right after cut
2016-04-12T01:18:26 < kakimir> you can have toolset for makin threads but it's laborous compared to that
2016-04-12T01:19:03 < kakimir> they have quite rip-off pricing
2016-04-12T01:20:24 < kakimir> 40usd or so
2016-04-12T01:20:39 < kakimir> for hobby use it's just too much
2016-04-12T01:24:01 < ds2> what do you plan to tap with it?
2016-04-12T01:25:25 < kakimir> if you have small production or big hobby project with all thread bars it could be handly
2016-04-12T01:25:28 < kakimir> handy
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2016-04-12T01:27:32 < kakimir> or dozens of plain bars needing clean bevel to them
2016-04-12T01:27:56 < kakimir> you get one better doing one yourself with lathe drill bits
2016-04-12T01:28:05 < kakimir> adjust as you wish
2016-04-12T01:28:20 < kakimir> or make multiple ones
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2016-04-12T01:35:22 < ds2> I have had HF traps unscrew themselves as if they were made of butter
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2016-04-12T01:36:49 < kakimir> HF?
2016-04-12T01:36:59 < kakimir> trap?
2016-04-12T01:37:13 < ds2> harbor freight
2016-04-12T01:38:09 < kakimir> yankee crapstore?
2016-04-12T01:39:10 < ReadError> ohsix i would never use a HF tap in anything you cared about
2016-04-12T01:39:29 < kakimir> there is no way you get full width set with proper material to it for 14usd
2016-04-12T01:40:23 < ds2> it works fine on wax
2016-04-12T01:41:02 < ReadError> they are well known for breaking
2016-04-12T01:41:21 < ReadError> HF 'specially
2016-04-12T01:41:54 < ds2> never had a HF tap break
2016-04-12T01:42:01 < ds2> bend, untwist, yes...break, no ;)
2016-04-12T01:42:21 < ReadError> halp
2016-04-12T01:42:55 < ReadError> http://ark.intel.com/products/82932/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz
2016-04-12T01:42:59 < ReadError> or
2016-04-12T01:43:00 < ReadError> http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz
2016-04-12T01:43:36 < ReadError> 5820k uses the same socket that the next line of cpu will use (2011-v3)
2016-04-12T01:43:56 < ReadError> i dont follow all this PC stuff much anymore tho
2016-04-12T01:44:13 < ReadError> has 2 more cores and more cache, lower clock
2016-04-12T01:44:22 < ReadError> price is about the same
2016-04-12T01:44:36 < ReadError> no GPU in the 5820k
2016-04-12T01:45:30 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-12T01:45:38 < ReadError> http://ark.intel.com/compare/82932,88195
2016-04-12T01:45:47 < kakimir> could you open that one for me ohsix
2016-04-12T01:47:00 < zyp> ReadError, what is it going to be used for?
2016-04-12T01:47:25 < zyp> those are two different classes of cpus
2016-04-12T01:47:39 < zyp> 2011 vs 115x
2016-04-12T01:48:32 < zyp> socket 2011 got almost twice as many pins, which allows for shit like more memory channels and more pcie lanes
2016-04-12T01:49:24 < zyp> IMO the deciding factor should be how many pcie lanes you need
2016-04-12T01:50:42 < zyp> there's been a few generations since last system I bought, but I figure the situation is still the same
2016-04-12T01:52:49 < zyp> 2011 was significantly more expensive, and I don't really think you get a real world performance gain by sacrificing max clock for more cores
2016-04-12T01:53:26 < zyp> multithreaded performance will of course be better, but you're sacrificing singlethreaded performance
2016-04-12T01:54:55 < ReadError> zyp ya
2016-04-12T01:55:03 < ReadError> the broadwell-e or w/e the new stuff is
2016-04-12T01:55:07 < ReadError> will use the same socket
2016-04-12T01:55:28 < ReadError> so im thinking I could swap it out later
2016-04-12T01:55:35 < zyp> haha
2016-04-12T01:55:44 < zyp> why would you do that?
2016-04-12T01:56:00 < ReadError> well later as in 5 months, or blackfriday
2016-04-12T01:56:08 < ReadError> if I even need to...
2016-04-12T01:56:15 < ReadError> this is a productivity machine not gaming
2016-04-12T01:56:23 < zyp> I've never upgraded half of a motherboard+cpu combo, it's just not worth it
2016-04-12T01:56:38 < ReadError> 64gb ram, sammy 950 evo PRO
2016-04-12T01:56:59 < ReadError> I also wonder if the ddr3->ddr4 is noticable
2016-04-12T01:57:14 < zyp> not sure about socket 2011, but on 115x, each cpu generation usually gets a new chipset generation even if the socket is the same
2016-04-12T01:57:23 < ReadError> zyp very true
2016-04-12T01:57:33 < zyp> so while it may still fit and work, you don't get to utilize all features
2016-04-12T01:57:42 < zyp> resulting in a mismatched setup
2016-04-12T01:57:45 < ReadError> http://www.microcenter.com/product/455010/Sabertooth_X99-USB_31_LGA_2011-v3_Intel_Motherboard
2016-04-12T01:57:54 < ReadError> all the mobos are stupid gaymer mobos now ;/
2016-04-12T01:58:07 < zyp> haha
2016-04-12T01:58:07 < ReadError> I dont want all this fancy metal shit
2016-04-12T01:58:23 < zyp> ReadError, well, especially 2011 shit, I guess
2016-04-12T01:58:25 < ReadError> I do want m.2 slot, usb 3.1
2016-04-12T01:59:01 < zyp> 2011 shit is more expensive, so it's targetted at gamers with too much money to burn
2016-04-12T01:59:06 < ReadError> on the plus side, http://www.microcenter.com/product/437203/Core_i7-5820k_33_GHz_LGA_2011_V3_Tray_Processor
2016-04-12T01:59:11 < ReadError> comes out to $300
2016-04-12T01:59:15 < ReadError> which is a bangup deal
2016-04-12T01:59:31 < ReadError> even cheaper than the 6700k
2016-04-12T01:59:49 < zyp> I'm pretty sure I'd buy 1151 if I were assembling a new system today
2016-04-12T01:59:56 < ReadError> zyp any reason?
2016-04-12T02:00:19 < zyp> got 1150 last time, got 1155 before that, same rationale now
2016-04-12T02:00:27 < ReadError> all my desktops are 1155
2016-04-12T02:00:28 < zyp> it's just not worth it to go with 2011 instead
2016-04-12T02:00:38 < ReadError> 2500ks, 2600k, xeon
2016-04-12T02:00:58 < ReadError> stil all work pretty okay, but the 64gb is making me want to jump
2016-04-12T02:01:06 < zyp> yeah, I've got a 3770k and a 4670 or whatever that was
2016-04-12T02:01:10 < zyp> heh
2016-04-12T02:01:20 < zyp> what are you doing that needs 64gb?
2016-04-12T02:01:33 < ReadError> zyp I run everything in virtuals
2016-04-12T02:01:38 < zyp> I mean, you can never have too much ram, that's why I maxed out mine with 32gb
2016-04-12T02:01:52 < ReadError> like solidworks, programming, altium
2016-04-12T02:01:56 < ReadError> different virtuals
2016-04-12T02:01:58 < zyp> but even with vms running, I don't tend to use more than half
2016-04-12T02:02:17 < ReadError> makes it easy to throw on a little usb3 HD and take with me
2016-04-12T02:03:19 < zyp> when I'm not running VMs, I'm usually sitting below 25% utilization
2016-04-12T02:03:26 < zyp> or rather, 25% reserved
2016-04-12T02:03:38 < zyp> the rest of course gets used for caching shit
2016-04-12T02:04:40 < ReadError> yea sucks since I can only spool up 2 or 1 depending on which its made for, at a time
2016-04-12T02:04:56 < ReadError> but they are on their own SSD so suspending is pretty quick
2016-04-12T02:05:04 < zyp> guess you do heavier shit than me in the VMs :p
2016-04-12T02:05:36 < ReadError> yea, some solidworks stuff will bring the pain
2016-04-12T02:06:01 < zyp> I stopped running altium in vmware after shit crashed, rendering the last save corrupt, losing me a bunch of work
2016-04-12T02:06:12 < ReadError> oh?
2016-04-12T02:06:20 < ReadError> the VM crashed?
2016-04-12T02:06:27 < ReadError> or altium
2016-04-12T02:06:28 < zyp> yeah, some old vmware bug, it's fixed now
2016-04-12T02:06:41 < ReadError> ahh, I use parallels
2016-04-12T02:06:47 < ReadError> it seems a bit quicker
2016-04-12T02:07:05 < zyp> idk, I haven't tried parallels for years
2016-04-12T02:07:44 < ReadError> its gotten better
2016-04-12T02:07:57 < ReadError> I have fusion too but parallels is all around better
2016-04-12T02:08:08 < ReadError> fusion has it beat on linux guest
2016-04-12T02:08:11 < zyp> but yeah, I should probably move back to using vmware for altium
2016-04-12T02:08:22 < ReadError> its nice
2016-04-12T02:08:34 < ReadError> so easy to move it around
2016-04-12T02:08:57 < zyp> I don't care about that, I'm just tired of dualbooting :p
2016-04-12T02:09:22 < ReadError> ahhh yea
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2016-04-12T02:10:04 < zyp> maybe I'd get more shit done if I could fire up altium more often, because it wouldn't require so much effort :p
2016-04-12T02:10:25 < ReadError> yea throw it up on a 2nd monitor fullscreen
2016-04-12T02:10:31 < ReadError> wont even notice its a virtual
2016-04-12T02:10:51 < zyp> sure, I've been doing a ton of other stuff in vmware
2016-04-12T02:12:20 < zyp> another thing I should do with altium is make some sort of central component library
2016-04-12T02:13:01 < zyp> right now each project have its own lib, and I keep copying shit between project libs
2016-04-12T02:15:48 < ReadError> how does that repo stuff work?
2016-04-12T02:15:55 < ReadError> or 'vault'
2016-04-12T02:16:17 < ReadError> is it easy to make your own server?
2016-04-12T02:16:26 < kakimir> https://youtu.be/4i0g8vWeliI?t=13m what is that tool?
2016-04-12T02:16:35 < ReadError> or easier to just keep them in files local
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2016-04-12T02:23:10 < zyp> dunno, gonna look into that some time
2016-04-12T02:25:04 < zyp> there's a vault server thing, but it looks like it requires a separate license
2016-04-12T02:25:31 < ReadError> guess its more useful if you are doing company stuff
2016-04-12T02:25:44 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-12T02:25:44 < ReadError> it would be cool though to have like a small community repo
2016-04-12T02:25:56 < ReadError> like with people you trust
2016-04-12T02:26:12 < zyp> there's also some dblib stuff, and svndblib
2016-04-12T02:26:26 < zyp> i.e. integrated support for putting shit on svn
2016-04-12T02:26:48 < zyp> but idk how useful that shit is, considering svn is old shit
2016-04-12T02:28:05 < zyp> yeah, fuck that
2016-04-12T02:28:29 < zyp> I'll probably just make a plain lib and throw it in a git repo or something
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2016-04-12T02:42:42 < ReadError> ohsix, was there a last week tonight, this week?
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2016-04-12T02:47:40 < ReadError> hmmm didnt notice it lemme see
2016-04-12T02:49:29 < ReadError> i normally just look at omgwtf and click through the pages and try to notice stuff
2016-04-12T02:49:37 < ReadError> its a bad system but thats how i can find new shows
2016-04-12T02:50:13 < ReadError> ahh yes, 18hrs ago
2016-04-12T03:02:16 < ReadError> yea might set that up someday...
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2016-04-12T03:27:11 < Laurenceb_> someone has been on /pol/ again
2016-04-12T03:27:52  * Laurenceb_ is fapping to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GMnYRQrTr0
2016-04-12T03:28:44 < kakimir> tell me about britt life Laurenceb_ !
2016-04-12T03:29:23 < Laurenceb_> what can I say... its raining :P
2016-04-12T03:31:56 < Laurenceb_> its a pretty cool country
2016-04-12T03:47:50 < Laurenceb_> our bishops are funny
2016-04-12T03:48:04 < Laurenceb_> they are literally cuckbabbies
2016-04-12T03:48:57 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36002621
2016-04-12T03:52:27 < Sync> rekt
2016-04-12T03:52:57 < kakimir> should
2016-04-12T03:54:28 < kakimir> I understand this
2016-04-12T03:54:35 < Laurenceb_> I love the fact that the first thing he does it go to national media
2016-04-12T03:55:04 < Laurenceb_> wow this is embarrassing personal information... what should I do?
2016-04-12T03:55:43 < Sync> well, maybe he thinks that there is something to gain by being churchils son
2016-04-12T03:55:43 < kakimir> such winner
2016-04-12T04:16:11 < kakimir> `?
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2016-04-12T05:47:02 < dongs> crt, bullshit
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2016-04-12T06:17:43 < dongs> bloggin
2016-04-12T06:17:51 < dongs> received lattice evalboard.
2016-04-12T06:19:00 < dongs> oh what teh fcucking lol
2016-04-12T06:19:03 < dongs> just opened mouser box
2016-04-12T06:19:06 < dongs> invoice inside is for some HK dude
2016-04-12T06:19:17 < dongs> who bought F030, schottkies and some PTCs/zeners
2016-04-12T06:20:09 < dongs> some DMX trash and some MPEG2TS trash
2016-04-12T06:21:42 < Thorn> is that extra segments showing on the vfd whttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Keithley-2000-Digital-Multimeter-0691981/272200753725
2016-04-12T06:22:30 < dongs> KEEN OCEAN IND LTD
2016-04-12T06:22:43 < dongs> http://www.keenocean.com.hk/
2016-04-12T06:22:55 < dongs> these are the terds whose invoice igot
2016-04-12T06:37:10 < dongs> pumped speaker
2016-04-12T06:45:06 < Thorn> >ASIP (Application-specific instruction-set processors)
2016-04-12T06:45:28 < Thorn> wth is that
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2016-04-12T06:48:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/High-speed-PCB-Layout-altium/
2016-04-12T06:49:02 < dongs> 1500 INR = $22
2016-04-12T06:49:11 < dongs> attn R2COM ^
2016-04-12T06:50:21 < dongs> wtf only like 4 new projects since lat night
2016-04-12T06:50:24 < dongs> feelancer is dying
2016-04-12T06:50:52 < dongs> oh no, most are just reposts
2016-04-12T06:51:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Short-Range-Wireless-Distance-Position/ attn crt
2016-04-12T06:51:48 < dongs> "in the order of few mm or less"
2016-04-12T06:52:16 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/ozsse.html < buyer
2016-04-12T06:53:26 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-Layout-for-BGA/ haha. there are acutally bids. for $22.
2016-04-12T07:04:09 < dongs> lattice came in a nice plastic box
2016-04-12T07:04:23 < dongs> R2COM: if you layout million bga boards @ $22 yes
2016-04-12T07:06:05 < englishman> pretty sure pebble did
2016-04-12T07:06:11 < englishman> stm32 content ^
2016-04-12T07:08:14 < dongs> yes
2016-04-12T07:08:17 < dongs> like 50%
2016-04-12T07:08:21 < englishman> stm32f439zg, wlcsp143
2016-04-12T07:08:26 < englishman> great canadian success
2016-04-12T07:48:22 < dongs> something you could certainly use
2016-04-12T07:48:33 < dongs> playing games only pays if you stream on twitch
2016-04-12T07:53:12 < dongs> looks like my scammed 950PRO arrived
2016-04-12T08:07:22 < dongs> i dont even need it right now
2016-04-12T08:07:30 < dongs> since just swapping old ssd into new board worked
2016-04-12T08:07:35 < dongs> ill wait for new win10 rollup release
2016-04-12T08:09:37 < dongs> definitely
2016-04-12T08:11:10 < dongs> en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_feb_2016_x86_dvd_8379694.iso looks like this is latest on msdn
2016-04-12T08:11:58 < dongs> i wonder if win10 IoT edition will run on STM32
2016-04-12T08:13:07 < dongs> whats it run on, rageberry?
2016-04-12T08:13:09 < dongs> or like edison
2016-04-12T08:14:19 < dongs> rough
2016-04-12T08:15:54 < dongs> shit probly only runs universal apps?
2016-04-12T08:16:03 < dongs> or can you compile .exe for arm now
2016-04-12T08:16:16 < dongs> if i had sores
2016-04-12T08:17:10 < dongs> everyone is too busy jerking off with lunix on pi
2016-04-12T08:17:14 < dongs> proably nobdoy cares about window son it
2016-04-12T08:17:16 < dongs> sadly
2016-04-12T08:17:44 < dongs> imagine if windows acutally supported 3D/gpu stuff properly
2016-04-12T08:17:54 < dongs> like nothing in lunix does
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2016-04-12T08:18:40 < dongs> heh its called "One SDK"
2016-04-12T08:18:56 < dongs> o wait, tehy just mean that its only one sdk needed to develop for *
2016-04-12T08:22:02 < dongs> https://az835927.vo.msecnd.net/sites/iot/Resources/images/weather-station.png
2016-04-12T08:22:06 < dongs> that doesnt look like rageberry
2016-04-12T08:22:16 < dongs> rageberry clone?
2016-04-12T08:23:20 < dongs> that looks liek TI logo
2016-04-12T08:23:28 < dongs> next to inverted text
2016-04-12T08:23:42 < dongs> crt, thatsa on the plugin trash yeah
2016-04-12T08:23:50 < dongs> talkin about the blueboard next to it.
2016-04-12T08:24:00 < dongs> that thing is a non-starter cuz its arduino shield
2016-04-12T08:24:06 < dongs> not acutally plugged into arduino
2016-04-12T08:24:08 < dongs> MAKES NO SENSE
2016-04-12T08:26:30 < dongs> An excellent article,.
2016-04-12T08:26:30 < dongs> I would like to see this on a platform other than Microsoft and Win 10
2016-04-12T08:26:31 < dongs> and I will rewrite the software to perhaps Python or C++.
2016-04-12T08:26:31 < dongs> I'll be looking at Win 10 for a while before I decide if I am going to use WIn 10 full time.
2016-04-12T08:26:33 < dongs> I've been burnt by Microsofts SW in the past so, like a good cheese it needs to mature before use.
2016-04-12T08:29:27 < dongs> i knwo
2016-04-12T08:29:38 < dongs> the sign of newb trash
2016-04-12T08:29:54 < dongs> and schematics/layout either in kikecad or eagle
2016-04-12T08:30:02 < dongs> yes, its the sparkfuck weather shield
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2016-04-12T09:04:31 < dongs> Laurenceb: apparently theres kinetis-w with 900mhz radio in it
2016-04-12T09:04:45 < dongs> http://www.nxp.com/products/microcontrollers-and-processors/arm-processors/kinetis-cortex-m-mcus/w-series:KINETIS_W_SERIES?cof=0&am=0
2016-04-12T09:05:03 < dongs> well, not 900 specifically but all those oddball freqs
2016-04-12T09:05:12 < dongs> http://www.nxp.com/products/interface-and-connectivity/wireless-connectivity/sub-1-ghz-wireless-solutions/kinetis-kw0x-48-mhz-sub-1-ghz-radio-ultra-low-power-wireless-microcontrollers-mcus:KW0x
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2016-04-12T09:22:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Schematic-entry-PCB-Layout/
2016-04-12T09:22:19 < dongs> should i fly to HK for a couple weeks
2016-04-12T09:22:25 < dongs> to do some altidong trolling for $22/hr
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2016-04-12T09:26:20 < dongs> not sure if worth
2016-04-12T09:26:28 < dongs> you should try it
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2016-04-12T10:40:23 < dongs> pumper.io
2016-04-12T10:40:37 < dongs> fully RESTful and ready to be SQL injected.
2016-04-12T10:44:26 < lorenzo> http://bit.ly/1nhVNYL
2016-04-12T10:44:34 < lorenzo> identified
2016-04-12T10:45:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/kCwt5K3.jpg identified correctly
2016-04-12T10:49:39 < zyp> sup?
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2016-04-12T10:49:59 < dongs> latticesemi.com is down
2016-04-12T10:50:22 < dongs> We have encountered an unexpected server error. Our staff has been notified but if this problem persists please contact us.
2016-04-12T10:51:39 < dongs> http://www.latticesemi.com/ 500'd for me
2016-04-12T10:54:03 < dongs> nope still ded
2016-04-12T10:54:07 < dongs> oh there it is
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2016-04-12T11:16:13 < dongs> hm
2016-04-12T11:16:15 < dongs> i must be dumb
2016-04-12T11:16:19 < dongs> lattice rgb demo thing isnt working
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2016-04-12T11:20:25 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/ZvW6F lol japs
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2016-04-12T11:28:38 < dongs> http://www.overclock.net/t/1595523/fully-functioning-flight-simulator
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2016-04-12T11:33:36 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
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2016-04-12T11:51:59 < dongs> http://www.iotworkshop.com/ these guys just spammed me
2016-04-12T11:52:32 < dongs> > PERSONALLY <
2016-04-12T11:53:02 < dongs> somewhat
2016-04-12T11:54:46 < dongs> http://www.marvell.com/microcontrollers/88MZ100/
2016-04-12T11:55:51 < dongs> no datasheet, they can go fuck themselves.
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2016-04-12T12:02:40 < Taxman> in-package serial flash with qspi connection to M3???
2016-04-12T12:02:47 < dongs> sure
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2016-04-12T12:02:51 < dongs> also breakouts are like $2
2016-04-12T12:02:55 < dongs> but no datasheets/docs = fuck off
2016-04-12T12:03:13 < dongs> http://www.iotworkshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=84&product_id=123
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2016-04-12T12:04:47 < dongs> chinks have some but i wouldnt touch it without d ocs anyway
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2016-04-12T12:13:49 < qyx> 10:33 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-12T12:13:53 < qyx> lulz
2016-04-12T12:14:15 < dongs> i think he has that sentence on ignore
2016-04-12T12:15:21 < Taxman> dongs: Docs only with nda. i had one, but even the nda is time-limited
2016-04-12T12:15:22 < dongs> i bet
2016-04-12T12:15:37 < dongs> Taxman: sure, most NDAs are but what hte fuck is there to hide?
2016-04-12T12:15:49 < dongs> shitty M3 core with mediocre peripherals and some RF junk?
2016-04-12T12:15:59 < dongs> fucking mavell wants NDA for thier gigabutt ethernet phys
2016-04-12T12:16:03 < dongs> they should just close shop
2016-04-12T12:17:02 < dongs> but now they're kept in the "dont wanna business with you" loop.
2016-04-12T12:17:21 < zyp> dongs, they do?
2016-04-12T12:17:31 < dongs> zyp, phys? yes
2016-04-12T12:17:35 < dongs> marvell alaska trash
2016-04-12T12:17:37 < dongs> good luck fidning docks
2016-04-12T12:17:46 < zyp> oh, marvell
2016-04-12T12:17:54 < Taxman> dongs: The marvell gigabit phys are very good documentated. But it costs lots of time to read through all this ;)
2016-04-12T12:17:55 < zyp> I was thinking micrel
2016-04-12T12:18:29 < dongs> Taxman: good docs that you cant read are not really good
2016-04-12T12:19:08 < dongs> not even since drivers already exist for all that shit
2016-04-12T12:19:23 < zyp> you'll what to know how to hook it up
2016-04-12T12:19:28 < zyp> want*
2016-04-12T12:19:33 < dongs> so basically its going to be a choice between  1) using something with all hardware/software docs available for download now 2) using some obscure marvell part that need to wait for a month for NDA
2016-04-12T12:19:55 < dongs> most sane people would choose #1 i guess.
2016-04-12T12:20:06 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-12T12:21:41 < zyp> micrel seems like a good phy vendor
2016-04-12T12:21:59 < dongs> speaking of phys
2016-04-12T12:22:02 < dongs> had a pcba proj few weeks ago
2016-04-12T12:22:05 < zyp> the 10/100 part I used on that F4 pcb was fine
2016-04-12T12:22:10 < dongs> some SMSC LANsomething thing was cheap as shit
2016-04-12T12:22:33 < zyp> and the stuff I'm doing at work now got some micrel gigabit phy, also seems nice
2016-04-12T12:22:34 < dongs> LAN8720
2016-04-12T12:22:35 < dongs> this
2016-04-12T12:22:51 < dongs> 0.35$
2016-04-12T12:22:55 < dongs> if you ever wanna make junk with it ^
2016-04-12T12:23:30 < zyp> how's external parts requirements for that?
2016-04-12T12:23:46 < dongs> i think i took a pic sec
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2016-04-12T12:25:00 < zyp> hmm, internal vcore reg, so you can feed it with only 3.3V
2016-04-12T12:25:00 < dongs> like crystal and ~10 passives?
2016-04-12T12:25:10 < zyp> so it's probably comparable to that micrel part I used then
2016-04-12T12:25:11 < dongs> from wat i can see
2016-04-12T12:26:15 < qyx> micrel too
2016-04-12T12:27:05 < qyx> it can detect cable errors too but I never bothered to try that
2016-04-12T12:27:19 < zyp> dongs, hmm, yeah, looks really similar in requirements
2016-04-12T12:27:34 < qyx> I am curious if that reflectometry or whatever it is actually works
2016-04-12T12:29:09 < zyp> qyx, why wouldn't it?
2016-04-12T12:29:51 < qyx> it seems too much awesome
2016-04-12T12:30:06 < zyp> I have a couple of switches that can do that, seems to measure the length pretty accurately, and it reports the state of each pair
2016-04-12T12:30:37 < qyx> yep, i know that network gear can do it
2016-04-12T12:30:40 < zyp> eh, it's not like it's hard to send out some shit and measure how it's reflected
2016-04-12T12:30:44 < qyx> but I woulnd't expect it from a $1 phy
2016-04-12T12:31:08 < zyp> qyx, what do you think is inside that network gear?
2016-04-12T12:31:32 < qyx> I know, but meh
2016-04-12T12:31:47 < zyp> oh, by the way, isn't reflectometry actually a requirement for gigabit?
2016-04-12T12:32:36 < zyp> gigabit is running bidir comms on all pairs, so it needs to know the cable length to do echo cancellation to keep traffic in each direction from interfering
2016-04-12T12:33:32 < zyp> extending it to add some diagnostic readouts is probably pretty much free
2016-04-12T12:33:58 < zyp> unsure
2016-04-12T12:34:06 < zyp> don't know the specifics
2016-04-12T12:35:00 < dongs> any stm32s taht can talk to a gigabutt phy?
2016-04-12T12:35:04 < dongs> its SGMII or someshit isnt it
2016-04-12T12:35:15 < zyp> normal shit is RGMII
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2016-04-12T12:36:05 < dongs> 8 bits per clock cycle
2016-04-12T12:36:33 < zyp> SGMII is some shit that multiplexes four gigabit links over a single serdes pair
2016-04-12T12:37:36 < dongs> why would someone choose marvell part over that one ^
2016-04-12T12:37:42 < dongs> NEED TO KNOW
2016-04-12T12:38:06 < dongs> $9 for that one
2016-04-12T12:38:16 < zyp> maybe marvell part is super awesome, but we don't know because it's NDAed
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2016-04-12T12:38:33 < Taxman> zyp: micrel was swallowed by microchip.
2016-04-12T12:38:35 < dongs> marvell part is $3.50 from avnet
2016-04-12T12:38:42 < dongs> with 5 in stock
2016-04-12T12:38:52 < dongs> 88E1111
2016-04-12T12:38:59 < zyp> Taxman, yeah, but the parts still exists
2016-04-12T12:39:21 < zyp> http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/KSZ9031RNX.pdf <- I've got this shit in the design I'm working on now
2016-04-12T12:39:35 < Taxman> zyp: I cant assess the impact on their product portfolio in future but they have indeed good voltage mode phys
2016-04-12T12:45:39 < dongs> lots of qfn
2016-04-12T12:45:47 < dongs> why does it matter if youre wirebonding gold or copper
2016-04-12T12:46:19 < karlp> didn't emeb use the lan 8720 on something he was doing?
2016-04-12T12:46:36 < dongs> did he? will need to ask.
2016-04-12T12:47:58 < karlp> it's in zypsnips
2016-04-12T12:48:10 < dongs> cool
2016-04-12T12:48:18 < karlp> ethernet-phys-jacks.txt
2016-04-12T12:48:42 < karlp> let me know or send pulls if anyone wants updates on that. (beyond "har har fuck you marvel111!"
2016-04-12T12:49:19 < karlp> zyp: you changed phys? I've had you down for 8081?
2016-04-12T12:49:23 < dongs> try to topic
2016-04-12T12:49:26 < karlp> ohsix: see /topic, lurn2read
2016-04-12T12:50:00 < dongs> karlp: no that one hes using is just some gigabit shit from workproj
2016-04-12T12:50:15 < karlp> oh, ok.
2016-04-12T12:50:54 < karlp> so emeb says 8720 has higher bom, less features than micrel, but odongs says it's cheaper :)
2016-04-12T12:51:05 < dongs> and actually buyable
2016-04-12T12:51:14 < dongs> (in china)
2016-04-12T12:51:15 < karlp> iirc emeb was using it because he'd done soemthing else with a waveshare board that used it too.
2016-04-12T12:51:26 < karlp> teh lan 8720 is buyable, themicrel parts aren't?
2016-04-12T12:51:44 < dongs> not last i checked
2016-04-12T12:52:44 < dongs> i duno about 'fewer passives'
2016-04-12T12:52:57 < dongs> it has the usual bypass caps + 12.1K RBIAS and thats it
2016-04-12T12:53:02 < dongs> what does micrel have that is "less"?
2016-04-12T12:53:15 < karlp> well, emeb was "IIRC"
2016-04-12T12:53:20 < karlp> maybe he didn't C...
2016-04-12T12:54:18 < karlp> so, dongs, you want to drop the dp83848 like it's hot?
2016-04-12T12:54:27 < dongs> nah its still on wavesahre boards
2016-04-12T12:54:30 < dongs> and usable :)
2016-04-12T12:54:54 < dongs> http://andybrown.me.uk/wp-content/images//ksz8051mll/schematic_1.pdf
2016-04-12T12:55:10 < dongs> 6.49K RBIAS there
2016-04-12T12:55:18 < dongs> and nothing really special otherwise
2016-04-12T12:55:41 < dongs> wonder if he had those 49.9R / 15pF caps confused
2016-04-12T12:55:46 < dongs> that area needed for magjack stuff
2016-04-12T12:55:59 < dongs> as "extra"
2016-04-12T12:57:32 < karlp> updated....
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2016-04-12T13:00:23 < zyp> karlp, ksz8081rnaca is what I used in the project I did last year
2016-04-12T13:01:49 < zyp> now I'm working on some stuff at work that's using ksz9031, which is gigabit
2016-04-12T13:01:58 < zyp> so it's not really comparable
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2016-04-12T13:02:45 < zyp> I didn't select this part either, I'm working on a project that was started before I got employed here
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2016-04-12T13:06:11 < Thorn> zyp: what's the main chip? what MAC does it have?
2016-04-12T13:07:29 < zyp> Thorn, unsure
2016-04-12T13:08:12 < dongs> zyp, how does 8081 have less passives
2016-04-12T13:08:25 < dongs> i only count like 4 for lan87
2016-04-12T13:08:34 < zyp> Thorn, I mean, I don't know which MAC it's using, it's some specific purpose SoC with ARM
2016-04-12T13:08:34 < dongs> rext being the only important one the rest are just bypass
2016-04-12T13:08:44 < zyp> dongs, didn't say less, I said about same
2016-04-12T13:09:02 < dongs> mkay
2016-04-12T13:11:02 < karlp> twas emeb who said less. "iirc"
2016-04-12T13:12:50 < Thorn> okic
2016-04-12T13:14:00 < PeterM> [18:20] <dongs> http://imgur.com/a/ZvW6F lol japs - explain plz
2016-04-12T13:14:38 < Thorn> 5V winstar display is confirmed to work with 3.3V interface levels
2016-04-12T13:15:05 < dongs> PeterM: 500 yen random ball thingy with random shit cpus in it. sometimes includes i5s/i7s
2016-04-12T13:15:12 < dongs> not sure if troll but the box looks legit
2016-04-12T13:15:24 < PeterM> oh, shit, thats pretty neart
2016-04-12T13:15:26 < PeterM> neat
2016-04-12T13:15:59 < zyp> red text on the bottom says something like "this is junk that doesn't work"
2016-04-12T13:16:20 < dongs> it just says its junk, no guarantee that it'll work
2016-04-12T13:16:24 < dongs> i've bought working junk :p
2016-04-12T13:16:41 < dongs> but yeah, nice catch didnt see that one
2016-04-12T13:17:10 < PeterM> yeah, its probably to cover their ass incase static from shitty packaging etc
2016-04-12T13:17:37 < dongs> 2nd hand junk shops usually do package the cpu exactly like that
2016-04-12T13:17:49 < dongs> but the most shit ive seen is those is old pin junk like PPRos etc
2016-04-12T13:17:58 < PeterM> ahh
2016-04-12T13:18:02 < zyp> yeah, junk stores are fun
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2016-04-12T13:46:40 < qyx> mhm, only two timer1 channels are available on the TSSOP20 version of F030
2016-04-12T13:47:36 < qyx> but at least with their negative counterparts
2016-04-12T13:50:30 < fest> I worked on some stuff which required two-port gigabit switch. went with marvell in the end as the alternatives (IIRC, realtek)  were as dicky about ndas and getting chips as marvell
2016-04-12T13:50:51 < fest> ah, forgot <nostm32> tags
2016-04-12T13:52:03 < fest> docs for them were top notch though
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2016-04-12T14:03:19 < dongs> paging all emebs
2016-04-12T14:04:57 < dongs> hmm cant even figure out how to flash this thing
2016-04-12T14:14:50 < dongs> why hte fuck is diamondshitrpogrammer trying to ouse jtag i thought all this trash was SPI or osmethign
2016-04-12T14:14:53 < dongs> wtf
2016-04-12T14:14:56 < dongs> rage
2016-04-12T14:16:32 < karlp> pretty sure it uses jtag, it uses the ft2232 onboard to jtag it I thought
2016-04-12T14:16:50 < dongs> no
2016-04-12T14:17:02 < dongs> it literally fucking uses 3 pins
2016-04-12T14:17:04 < dongs> from that FTDI
2016-04-12T14:17:15 < dongs> ADBUS 0/1/2 for SCK/MOSI/MISO
2016-04-12T14:17:17 < karlp> jtdo, jtdi, jtck? :)
2016-04-12T14:17:20 < dongs> no
2016-04-12T14:17:43 < karlp> wait for emeb then I guess :)
2016-04-12T14:17:45 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-12T14:18:52 < dongs> i sjhhould read manual
2016-04-12T14:18:57 < dongs> there as a fucking paper included
2016-04-12T14:19:00 < dongs> but even THAT didnt work
2016-04-12T14:19:04 < dongs> like failed @ step 3
2016-04-12T14:20:26 < Laurenceb> http://portcanaveralwebcam.com/
2016-04-12T14:22:39 < dongs> adskasdjhsadhkjsadkjhsadkasjhakaskdjashdkjash
2016-04-12T14:22:52 < dongs> even following instrucitons in the fucking thing doesnt work either
2016-04-12T14:26:17 < dongs> http://akteevy.com/projects.html
2016-04-12T14:26:18 < dongs> what thae fuck
2016-04-12T14:26:21 < dongs> fucking weebs
2016-04-12T14:26:57 < dongs> lul fuckign everything on that page is "under devleopment"
2016-04-12T14:27:08 < Laurenceb> mopar liek weeves
2016-04-12T14:29:01 < Laurenceb> http://8ch.net/n/res/370969.html
2016-04-12T14:29:03 < Laurenceb> megabus
2016-04-12T14:30:24 < dongs> lole
2016-04-12T14:30:30 < dongs> Laurenceb: did you see that dicknetis link
2016-04-12T14:30:37 < Laurenceb> yup thanx
2016-04-12T14:30:45 < Laurenceb> maybe highaltitude guys can use it
2016-04-12T14:32:11 < Laurenceb> https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/04/12/0256244/genetic-studies-prove-cuckolded-fathers-are-rare-in-human-populations
2016-04-12T14:32:19 < Laurenceb> slashdot is now a chan site
2016-04-12T14:35:22 < dongs> i think i got it
2016-04-12T14:35:26 < dongs> but its already been doing it for > 30 seconds
2016-04-12T14:35:27 < dongs> waht teh fuck
2016-04-12T14:36:07 < dongs> INFO - Execution time: 01 min : 06 sec
2016-04-12T14:36:09 < dongs> HA HA HA
2016-04-12T14:36:12 < dongs> no fucking way
2016-04-12T14:36:14 < dongs> what is this garbage
2016-04-12T14:36:24 < dongs> 1 minute to flash 70kbytes into  SPI
2016-04-12T14:36:46 < Laurenceb> slower than a discovery board
2016-04-12T14:38:39 < dongs> crt, cram programming?
2016-04-12T14:38:58 < Laurenceb> nxp thing looks interesting, but even worse sensitivity than spirit1 :(
2016-04-12T14:39:03 < Laurenceb> only slightly worse tho
2016-04-12T14:39:05 < dongs> |does it need ot be done under reset or wat
2016-04-12T14:39:27 < Laurenceb> I like the 17dBm part
2016-04-12T14:39:47 < dongs> ok nice, eah it works
2016-04-12T14:39:51 < dongs> 2 seconds approx
2016-04-12T14:39:59 < dongs> how the fuck do you fuck this up
2016-04-12T14:40:03 < dongs> 1 minute for 70kbytes
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2016-04-12T14:43:46 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf0pDAOUAAAtL9c.jpg:orig
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2016-04-12T14:45:32 < Laurenceb> lul
2016-04-12T14:48:36 < dongs> k. at least i can make led blink now
2016-04-12T14:48:38 < dongs> using emebs' code
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2016-04-12T14:57:57 < PeterM> lattice emeb_cube32
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2016-04-12T15:04:23 < ReadError> Laurenceb whats funny
2016-04-12T15:04:26 < ReadError> i dont get it?
2016-04-12T15:04:52 < Laurenceb> crt
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2016-04-12T15:05:44 < ReadError> oh i have him on ignore
2016-04-12T15:05:54 < Laurenceb> heh
2016-04-12T15:11:33  * mitrax yapps at crt
2016-04-12T15:13:50 < mitrax> auf wiedersehen
2016-04-12T15:14:08 < mitrax> oh duh that's goodbye
2016-04-12T15:14:13 < Laurenceb> rekt
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2016-04-12T15:16:06  * Laurenceb checks uni ordering system
2016-04-12T15:16:18 < Laurenceb> Ahmed, Dr Muhammad	11/04/16	Sigma 95% Hydrogen Peroxide
2016-04-12T15:16:27 < Laurenceb> what could possibly go wrong
2016-04-12T15:17:00  * Laurenceb puts on his flack jacket
2016-04-12T15:17:38 < mitrax> maybe he wants to go blond
2016-04-12T15:18:11 < Laurenceb> depends if its before or after the explosion
2016-04-12T15:20:11 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/SABERTOOTH-X99-LGA2011-V3-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B00VUK54F0/
2016-04-12T15:20:14 < ReadError> this looks gay as hell
2016-04-12T15:20:37 < mitrax> "THE ULTIMATE FORCE"
2016-04-12T15:20:49 < mitrax> "THERMAL ARMOR" ahahaahah
2016-04-12T15:20:59 < kakimir> why its kept linked
2016-04-12T15:21:25 < ReadError> mitrax ya its aimed at gaymers
2016-04-12T15:21:30 < dongs> wow this chinese led lightbulb actually has thermal material between leds and heatsink
2016-04-12T15:21:37 < ReadError> TUF 10k Ti CAPS
2016-04-12T15:21:41 < ReadError> wtf does that even mean
2016-04-12T15:21:44 < dongs> what a retarded price
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2016-04-12T15:23:09 < ReadError> dongs well the 2011-v3 ones w/ usb 3.1 etc
2016-04-12T15:23:11 < ReadError> not too many
2016-04-12T15:23:20 < ReadError> im gettin it for 289 tho
2016-04-12T15:23:31 < Sync> do you really need usb3.1 shits?
2016-04-12T15:23:39 < ReadError> why not
2016-04-12T15:23:56 < ReadError> I mean, I dont need it now but eventually I might
2016-04-12T15:24:11 < Sync> yeah well
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2016-04-12T15:25:13 < dongs> wtf controller board is potted
2016-04-12T15:26:21 < Laurenceb> to protect it from gaymers
2016-04-12T15:27:01 < dongs> no im tearing down this chinabumb
2016-04-12T15:27:03 < dongs> bulb
2016-04-12T15:27:50 < PeterM> [22:20] <ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/SABERTOOTH-X99-LGA2011-V3-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B00VUK54F0/   - yo dawg i heard u like shit covering up your vrm heatsink becuase itsfucking gay as aids
2016-04-12T15:28:13 < ReadError> ya shit does look gay as hell
2016-04-12T15:28:44 < PeterM> dogns thats standard, its to improve thermal conductivity to housing usually
2016-04-12T15:28:49 < PeterM> dongs even
2016-04-12T15:30:25 < dongs> potting too?
2016-04-12T15:32:40 < lorenzo> what's that?
2016-04-12T15:33:54 < lorenzo> ahh mobo
2016-04-12T15:34:57 < jpa-> some potting materials conduct heat, others not so much
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2016-04-12T15:36:16 < dongs> ya this is som gray rubbery shit
2016-04-12T15:37:10 < jpa-> so silicone.. might even conduct heat
2016-04-12T15:39:39 < PeterM> yes, potting compound
2016-04-12T15:41:07 < jpa-> "potting compound" does not mean anything specific i think.. it could be epoxy, silicone, polyurethane, maybe something else
2016-04-12T15:42:45 < PeterM> PU isnt usually potting compound, it doesn't dry when its thick
2016-04-12T15:43:18 < jpa-> um, sure it does (2-part PU, not 1-part crap)
2016-04-12T15:43:46 < dongs> lolllllll
2016-04-12T15:43:46 < PeterM> 1 part crap is super common as conformal coating though
2016-04-12T15:43:49 < dongs> this chinaled driver
2016-04-12T15:44:11 < dongs> AC -> bridge rectifier -> 22uF 200V cap -> 2 fets -> led
2016-04-12T15:44:14 < jpa-> PU is funny stuff, it comes in lots of different varieties.. lacquer, solid, rubbery, foam, etc.
2016-04-12T15:44:40 < jpa-> dongs: why 2 fets?
2016-04-12T15:44:54 < dongs> i think they're paralell'd
2016-04-12T15:44:55 < dongs> model is same
2016-04-12T15:44:58 < dongs> 2H1002
2016-04-12T15:45:13 < jpa-> used as linear constant current supply? luls
2016-04-12T15:45:25 < Sync> o0
2016-04-12T15:46:23 < dongs> nothign else on teh board..
2016-04-12T15:46:30 < qyx> I have seen this http://images.elektroda.net/78_1164935799.JPG
2016-04-12T15:46:31 < dongs> just footprints for more fets
2016-04-12T15:46:32 < dongs> on teh back
2016-04-12T15:46:37 < jpa-> http://i00.c.aliimg.com/img/ibank/2012/511/162/570261115_602393338.jpg   yeah, looks like "2H1002" is the CRD there
2016-04-12T15:46:53 < dongs> jpa-: ya that looks about the schema
2016-04-12T15:47:00 < dongs> there's a 304 resistor
2016-04-12T15:47:01 < dongs> 0805
2016-04-12T15:47:02 < PeterM> actually, ive seen similar ones before - not got as high voltages but linear constant current sinks
2016-04-12T15:47:04 < dongs> thats 1M isnt it
2016-04-12T15:47:12 < jpa-> 300kohm
2016-04-12T15:47:15 < jpa-> but close enough
2016-04-12T15:47:35 < dongs> its acutally between led outputs
2016-04-12T15:48:01 < dongs> what is crd?
2016-04-12T15:48:36 < tecdroid> iooooooo.. this means heat
2016-04-12T15:48:50 < dongs> anyway it was flickering
2016-04-12T15:48:53 < dongs> thats why i i took it a prt
2016-04-12T15:49:07 < dongs> led grid is 4x6 array of white leds
2016-04-12T15:49:20 < dongs> 72V?
2016-04-12T15:49:56 < PeterM> i dont see why not, on 110/100v thats 150~v peak
2016-04-12T15:50:12 < PeterM> on 220 it owuld be a but hard though
2016-04-12T15:51:05 < dongs> jap voltage is 100
2016-04-12T15:51:24 < dongs> you should
2016-04-12T15:51:27 < Sync> meh
2016-04-12T15:51:31 < dongs> does your trash include special stuff for 100V
2016-04-12T15:51:35 < dongs> vs 115V
2016-04-12T15:51:38 < Sync> all those yahoo auction sellers are cunts
2016-04-12T15:51:47 < dongs> sync, what are you buying from yajew
2016-04-12T15:51:56 < dongs> none of htem will ship you anything from japan
2016-04-12T15:52:28 < Sync> yes, that is the problem
2016-04-12T15:52:44 < dongs> use one of those gay forwarding services
2016-04-12T15:52:53 < dongs> that bids for you
2016-04-12T15:52:55 < dongs> buyee or whatever
2016-04-12T15:53:10 < dongs> or you can send it to me if its not a fucking car
2016-04-12T15:53:43 < Sync> no, it's not a car :D
2016-04-12T15:55:19 < PeterM> in the back of syncs mind "heh.. it is an old japanese cnc mill though..."
2016-04-12T15:56:01 < dongs> kawaii cnc
2016-04-12T15:56:06 < Sync> nah, there is somebody selling 500V 1kW electronic loads for cheap on there
2016-04-12T15:56:10 < Sync> and I need two of them
2016-04-12T15:56:30 < dongs> that does NOT sound light at all
2016-04-12T15:56:57 < dongs> like that 60V/30A power supply I grabbed on yajew
2016-04-12T15:57:32 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOQoKrAjXI
2016-04-12T15:57:43 < dongs> oh thats only 8V version  ahaha
2016-04-12T15:58:02 < dongs> and doesnt show size
2016-04-12T15:58:34 < Sync> 19,5kg
2016-04-12T15:59:30 < dongs> it felt heavier than that
2016-04-12T16:00:27 < PeterM> sync link?
2016-04-12T16:00:38 < Sync> yeah dongs your supply is like 31kg
2016-04-12T16:00:54 < Sync> http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/216783907# PeterM
2016-04-12T16:02:02 < dongs> loaded instantly
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2016-04-12T16:02:24 < dongs> yea that looks like THAT thing is like 20kg, Sync
2016-04-12T16:02:43 < PeterM> oh dang
2016-04-12T16:02:49 < PeterM> that shit looks sweet as
2016-04-12T16:02:56 < dongs> nobody is gonna ship that shit out of japan for you mang
2016-04-12T16:03:02 < dongs> if that 20kg, shipping by EMS is like $300
2016-04-12T16:03:20 < Sync> don't need no ems
2016-04-12T16:03:25 < dongs> https://www.post.japanpost.jp/int/charge/list/ems_all_en.html
2016-04-12T16:03:32 < dongs> it doesnt amtter it doesnt get much cheper other way
2016-04-12T16:03:43 < dongs> some dickhead wanted to send some car springs
2016-04-12T16:03:45 < dongs> with ~similar weight
2016-04-12T16:03:56 < dongs> it was only like +-$50 difference
2016-04-12T16:04:38 < Sync> well, economy air is like 26kyen
2016-04-12T16:04:47 < Sync> ems would be 42k
2016-04-12T16:04:55 < dongs> hmm surface is 10600 for 21kg
2016-04-12T16:05:06 < Sync> really snailmail would be like 14k
2016-04-12T16:06:15 < Sync> yes dongs should buy me two of them and send them to me
2016-04-12T16:07:35 < dongs> what the fuck would I do with it
2016-04-12T16:07:52 < Sync> send them to me
2016-04-12T16:07:58 < dongs> yeah but what do you do wiht it
2016-04-12T16:08:07 < dongs> its a variable 3kW resistor?
2016-04-12T16:09:02 < Sync> test my pfc
2016-04-12T16:09:12 < Sync> at full load
2016-04-12T16:10:35 < dongs> looks pretty cool
2016-04-12T16:11:04 < Fleck> pfc as power factor corrector?
2016-04-12T16:11:07 < Sync> yes
2016-04-12T16:11:27 < Fleck> I have one PSU where PFC part is broken, no clue how to fix/test
2016-04-12T16:11:36 < Sync> actual ##stm32 ontopic content, as it will be controlled by a f334
2016-04-12T16:15:35 < Fleck> Sync: wanna explain? :D
2016-04-12T16:15:55 < Fleck> or point to some tuts/manuals
2016-04-12T16:15:59 < PeterM> stm32f334 has mad sic ksimers, 217ps resolution etc
2016-04-12T16:16:04 < PeterM> perfect for smps
2016-04-12T16:16:16 < PeterM> timers even
2016-04-12T16:17:03 < Sync> yeah they are hektik
2016-04-12T16:17:34 < PeterM> omg uleh
2016-04-12T16:18:07 < Sync> Fleck: as crt said, basic smps trouble shooting stuff
2016-04-12T16:18:44 < Fleck> smps works, PFC blows mosfet, if I remove mosfet - PSU is ok...
2016-04-12T16:18:52 < Sync> PeterM: hektik skidz m8
2016-04-12T16:22:11 < Sync> Fleck: well, that's not suprising as the pfc is a boost converter
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2016-04-12T16:24:18 < Laurenceb> <PeterM> thats all fake
2016-04-12T16:24:29 < Laurenceb> its just dithering, there is no real superresolution
2016-04-12T16:24:51 < Laurenceb> you could do it on F1 with an interrupt to change the timer resolution
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2016-04-12T16:25:12 < Laurenceb> or the slave mode dithering I've used on a few projects
2016-04-12T16:25:17 < Sync> yeah
2016-04-12T16:25:20 < Fleck> Sync: see, so, what WF should be on mosfets gate?
2016-04-12T16:25:33 < Fleck> how do I know, mine is not right
2016-04-12T16:25:45 < Sync> some square wave
2016-04-12T16:25:55 < Fleck> yep, have sq. wave there
2016-04-12T16:26:26 < PeterM> Laurenceb, sure, but thats one less step for me
2016-04-12T16:26:48 < Sync> did you replace the fet with an equivalent one or cheapshit stuff?
2016-04-12T16:27:00 < Fleck> yep, I did
2016-04-12T16:27:38 < PeterM> Laurenceb, the have other nifty peripherals too
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2016-04-12T16:28:36 < Sync> Laurenceb: slavemode dithering?
2016-04-12T16:29:02 < Laurenceb> its on my github
2016-04-12T16:29:11 < Laurenceb> for generating OFDM using timers
2016-04-12T16:29:40 < PeterM> dithering wont get quite the same resolution, iirc its interleaving counters, not dithering
2016-04-12T16:29:45 < Laurenceb> normally PWM cant be used for OFDM as it gives orthogonal period not frequency
2016-04-12T16:31:52 < Sync> ah
2016-04-12T16:31:53 < Sync> yeah
2016-04-12T16:33:48 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro/blob/master/utilities/Timer.c
2016-04-12T16:34:09 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Chibi-Spectro/blob/master/utilities/Timer.h
2016-04-12T16:34:15 < Laurenceb> coefficients brute forced in matlab
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2016-04-12T16:35:19 < qyx> related, anyone did fsk demod on stm32?
2016-04-12T16:35:58 < dongs> Sync: but yeah uh if  you want them you can pay for htem + shipping + wahtever in realmoney, i have no problem mailing the stuff post office is next door.
2016-04-12T16:36:26 < Sync> sure, no problem dongs
2016-04-12T16:36:31 < dongs> german customs would probably fuck you over on that stuff
2016-04-12T16:36:36 < dongs> heavy?? must be expensive
2016-04-12T16:36:39 < qyx> I am trying to laurenceb a solution using those stm32 internal analog switches to work as a mixer for downconversion
2016-04-12T16:36:57 < Laurenceb> sounds awesome
2016-04-12T16:38:18 < PeterM> fuckign signed up to mental graphix as "Bob Frank" to get the file viewer, keep getting emails being like "Robert, are you interested in improving your design flow?"
2016-04-12T16:38:19 < Sync> well, from jappuland it is not as bad as from china
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2016-04-12T16:40:21 < dongs> PeterM: same, eventually i found "unsubscribe" link
2016-04-12T16:41:49 < PeterM> yeah, im jsut surprised they Bob->Robert
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2016-04-12T16:43:55 < dongs> that led on lattice board is fucking bright
2016-04-12T16:44:22 < dongs> ICE5LP4K-B-EVN
2016-04-12T16:45:16 < PeterM> sharpie that shit
2016-04-12T16:52:52 < Laurenceb> woot
2016-04-12T16:53:05 < Laurenceb> my custom horse ECG lead assemblies have arrived from China
2016-04-12T16:53:10 < Laurenceb> $22 each
2016-04-12T16:53:24 < Sync> not bad
2016-04-12T16:53:30 < Laurenceb> best EU price was $3.5k lol
2016-04-12T16:54:04 < Laurenceb> quality looks 100%, but no EMI or ESD filtering built in
2016-04-12T16:54:39 < Laurenceb> gold plated DB-15 and electrode clips
2016-04-12T16:54:41 < lorenzo> shit matlab 2016 is 8.05 GB compressed
2016-04-12T16:54:47 < lorenzo> last time I installed it in 2009 it was 3 GB
2016-04-12T16:54:49 < lorenzo> wonder what happened
2016-04-12T16:54:57 < Laurenceb> matlab happened :S
2016-04-12T16:55:11 < PeterM> ehh, doesnt matter Laurenceb they're gonan be strapped to a big meaty ground plane anyway
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2016-04-12T16:59:06 < Laurenceb> heh not when they are handled in the field tho
2016-04-12T16:59:30 < Laurenceb> luckily I added 50kV EDS protection to the ADc inputs
2016-04-12T17:01:07 < Bright> the led is fucking me?
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2016-04-12T17:02:55 < Sync> Laurenceb: did you mean aids protection?
2016-04-12T17:03:05 < dongs> horse aids
2016-04-12T17:05:54 < PeterM> 50k esd protection? does that handle thee part when you go through the housing and right onto the pin?
2016-04-12T17:06:52 < Sync> yup
2016-04-12T17:08:23 < PeterM> noice
2016-04-12T17:08:45 < PeterM> 'ductance begone
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2016-04-12T17:30:29 < Laurenceb> http://8ch.net/n/res/370643.html
2016-04-12T17:31:44 < Laurenceb> nsfw obviously
2016-04-12T17:35:07 < PeterM> wot.
2016-04-12T17:37:24 < mitrax> sjw retards
2016-04-12T17:37:28 < PeterM> im all for joint gender bathrooms, means more shitters available to me at things like heavy metal concerts etc
2016-04-12T17:37:39 < Laurenceb> taking 8chan seriously :P
2016-04-12T17:37:42 < PeterM> but at the saem time, i dont really give a fuck
2016-04-12T17:37:59 < Laurenceb> I just read 8chan for troll purposes :D
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2016-04-12T17:38:15 < Laurenceb> anywayz
2016-04-12T17:38:16 < Laurenceb> http://portcanaveralwebcam.com/
2016-04-12T17:38:25 < Laurenceb> its been unloaded
2016-04-12T17:39:02 < dongs> is that the sapcex thing
2016-04-12T17:39:11 < PeterM> spaysex
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2016-04-12T17:57:55 < BrainDamage> in theme of sjw: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/719674129545166848
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2016-04-12T18:05:08 < Laurenceb> omg sarah butts
2016-04-12T18:05:10 < Laurenceb> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sarah_Butts
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2016-04-12T18:11:10 < dongs> is that the intel retard
2016-04-12T18:11:34 < Laurenceb> no
2016-04-12T18:11:41 < dongs> there was some femcoder @ intel
2016-04-12T18:11:44 < dongs> stirring  drama
2016-04-12T18:11:47 < dongs> also sarah something i thought
2016-04-12T18:12:02 < mitrax> female or tranny?
2016-04-12T18:12:11 < dongs> sarah sharp
2016-04-12T18:12:17 < dongs> https://twitter.com/sarahsharp this trash
2016-04-12T18:12:26 < dongs> haha bitch has a patreon
2016-04-12T18:13:04 < emeb_mac> Coming soon - home colonoscopy -> http://www.dxsoul.com/product/6-led-7mm-lens-android-endoscope-waterproof-borescope-black-2m-901427276?utm_source=dxsoul&utm_medium=edm&utm_campaign=20160412GreatBargains_dxsoul#.Vw0QUjYrJok
2016-04-12T18:13:18 < dongs> oh emeb
2016-04-12T18:13:22 < dongs> your test.v works
2016-04-12T18:13:22 < mitrax> been sitting 20 years in programming channels on irc, i *never* came across a real female programmer
2016-04-12T18:13:27 < Laurenceb> holy shit I lolled
2016-04-12T18:13:28 < dongs> took a while to figure out how to configure dickmond programmer thing
2016-04-12T18:13:41 < Laurenceb> two words that should not go together
2016-04-12T18:13:41 < dongs> also: 1 minute flash tiem for SPI??????????
2016-04-12T18:13:47 < Laurenceb>  home colonoscopy
2016-04-12T18:14:06 < dongs> maybe in Laurenceb home..
2016-04-12T18:14:49  * emeb_mac puts a notch on his mac for making Laurenceb lol
2016-04-12T18:15:15 < dongs> emeb_mac: any thoughts? did i do it wrong cuz its so slow? CRAM flash is liek 1-2 seconds
2016-04-12T18:15:31 < emeb_mac> dongs: yeah - it's really slow.
2016-04-12T18:15:51 < dongs> awful.
2016-04-12T18:15:52 < emeb_mac> takes like 20s to config
2016-04-12T18:15:56 < dongs> errr
2016-04-12T18:15:57 < dongs> 20?
2016-04-12T18:16:01 < dongs> it was 1 minute for me
2016-04-12T18:16:03 < dongs> with your .hex
2016-04-12T18:16:07 < dongs> but cram is 1-2sec
2016-04-12T18:16:17 < dongs> you had to choose micron, flash type, etc right?
2016-04-12T18:16:22 < dongs> why hte fuck doesnt it come wiht all that shit preprogrammed
2016-04-12T18:16:32 < mitrax> https://twitter.com/outreachy
2016-04-12T18:16:34 < mitrax> ....
2016-04-12T18:16:46 < emeb_mac> oh - I don't flash the spi part. just the fpga.
2016-04-12T18:16:57 < dongs> emeb_mac: .. err isnt FPGA otp
2016-04-12T18:17:09 < emeb_mac> dongs: the NVCM in the FPGA is otp
2016-04-12T18:17:34 < emeb_mac> but when you load the config ram in the FPGA it's different
2016-04-12T18:17:45 < dongs> ya thats cram
2016-04-12T18:17:47 < dongs> that takes only seconds
2016-04-12T18:17:55 < dongs> which is ok for me
2016-04-12T18:17:55 < emeb_mac> not for me.
2016-04-12T18:17:58 < dongs> hurm.
2016-04-12T18:17:59 < emeb_mac> it's really slow
2016-04-12T18:18:14 < dongs> i have jumpers in prog ice
2016-04-12T18:18:16 < emeb_mac> and you're right - that diamond app is suxors
2016-04-12T18:18:39 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/bBbPtof.png
2016-04-12T18:18:39 < dongs> and this
2016-04-12T18:19:04 < dongs> and i go dsign->program, initial load is slow but once it did it once its 2 seconds
2016-04-12T18:19:14 < emeb_mac> aha - didn't see that.
2016-04-12T18:19:17 < emeb_mac> will try it
2016-04-12T18:19:24 < dongs> how the fuck did you configure it?
2016-04-12T18:19:30 < dongs> i coudlnt get anywehre without selecting part etc shit
2016-04-12T18:19:31 < dongs> in that diamond aids
2016-04-12T18:19:34 < dongs> and guessing half the stuff
2016-04-12T18:19:42 < dongs> like all the commands/pins and shit are called jtag
2016-04-12T18:19:46 < dongs> and this part isnt even jtag
2016-04-12T18:19:50 < emeb_mac> yep
2016-04-12T18:20:09 < emeb_mac> pulldown menu lets you set part type. then it switches from jtag to spi
2016-04-12T18:20:41 < dongs> nope
2016-04-12T18:20:46 < dongs> default for me was still jtag
2016-04-12T18:20:54 < emeb_mac> weird
2016-04-12T18:20:55 < dongs> o yeah i see it
2016-04-12T18:21:02 < dongs> yeah i was looking at wahtever default part it loaded
2016-04-12T18:21:03 < dongs>  there was jtag tehre
2016-04-12T18:21:24 < emeb_mac> ya
2016-04-12T18:21:47 < dongs> truly fucking aids
2016-04-12T18:21:59 < dongs> also I had to select FTUSB-1
2016-04-12T18:22:01 < dongs> on rigth side
2016-04-12T18:22:03 < dongs> before it even did anything
2016-04-12T18:22:08 < dongs> FTUSB-0 was going nowhere
2016-04-12T18:22:16 < dongs> that ftdi part also isntalled 2 serial shits, A/B
2016-04-12T18:22:17 < dongs> duno why
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2016-04-12T18:46:47 < emeb_mac> dongs: yes - FTUSB-1 for me too.
2016-04-12T18:47:11 < emeb_mac> I couldn't find that menu you showed though
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2016-04-12T18:47:19 < dongs> thats when you double click on device
2016-04-12T18:47:21 < dongs> in diamond
2016-04-12T18:47:30 < dongs> wehre it sayts "operation"
2016-04-12T18:47:58 < emeb_mac> ah - just a sec... (other computer)
2016-04-12T18:48:01 < dongs> or right click -> device properties
2016-04-12T18:48:13 < dongs> rightclick works anywhere in that line
2016-04-12T18:52:22 < emeb_mac> got it
2016-04-12T18:52:47 < emeb_mac> there's also a menu->edit->preferences thing that lets you set "Turbo" mode.
2016-04-12T18:52:52 < dongs> INFO - Elapsed time: 01 min : 06 sec
2016-04-12T18:52:58 < dongs> that made no difference
2016-04-12T18:53:00 < dongs> i think thats really for jtag
2016-04-12T18:53:05 < dongs> already dicked with that
2016-04-12T18:53:08 < emeb_mac> right
2016-04-12T18:53:10 < dongs> ^ this is how long SPI flash takes.
2016-04-12T18:53:18 < emeb_mac> haven't tried SPI
2016-04-12T18:53:29 < dongs> just make the jumpers vertical
2016-04-12T18:53:37 < dongs> and select that part.
2016-04-12T18:53:44 < emeb_mac> takes about 5-6s from pushing "Program" icon before DONE LED even turns off.
2016-04-12T18:53:51 < emeb_mac> then like 2s to program.
2016-04-12T18:54:46 < dongs> yep
2016-04-12T18:54:55 < dongs> i think initiatl jerk-off is some dumb thing they're doing with FTDI chip.
2016-04-12T18:55:01 < dongs> like an unnecessary delay
2016-04-12T18:55:02 < emeb_mac> I think I accidentally programmed the NVCM on mine - was dorking around with the icestorm tools
2016-04-12T18:55:09 < dongs> nice
2016-04-12T18:55:10 < emeb_mac> and they default to NVCM
2016-04-12T18:55:14 < emeb_mac> dumb
2016-04-12T18:55:55 < emeb_mac> not like it makes a difference
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2016-04-12T18:56:41 < emeb_mac> although the configuration flowchart suggests that if NVCM is programmed that it ignores the external SPI
2016-04-12T18:56:55 < emeb_mac> dunno if that's true or not
2016-04-12T18:58:00 < dongs> i guess you can find out
2016-04-12T18:58:04 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-12T18:58:04 < dongs> what did you flash into nv?
2016-04-12T18:58:06 < dongs> rgb?
2016-04-12T18:58:15 < dongs> or just non-working junk
2016-04-12T18:58:28 < emeb_mac> their default test prog
2016-04-12T18:58:35 < dongs> oh
2016-04-12T18:58:41 < dongs> hrm.
2016-04-12T18:58:44 < emeb_mac> so should be identical to what's shipped in SPI
2016-04-12T18:58:44 < dongs> i could not get it to work
2016-04-12T18:58:48 < dongs> the windows RGB led thingy
2016-04-12T18:58:48 < emeb_mac> me either
2016-04-12T18:58:55 < dongs> the gui pooped up but did fuckall
2016-04-12T18:58:59 < dongs> ???
2016-04-12T18:59:00 < emeb_mac> just sits there doing nothing
2016-04-12T18:59:19 < emeb_mac> but complains if drivers not installed
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2016-04-12T18:59:30 < dongs> well its just ftdi ft2xx dll shit
2016-04-12T18:59:33 < emeb_mac> super pro marketing there guys
2016-04-12T18:59:35 < dongs> i thought it was maybe some 64bit crap
2016-04-12T18:59:43 < dongs> or the fact that I had to seelct FT-1 isntead of FT-0
2016-04-12T18:59:47 < dongs> but the app was never modfied for that
2016-04-12T18:59:49 < emeb_mac> ya
2016-04-12T19:00:02 < emeb_mac> & has no menus for setup
2016-04-12T19:00:09 < emeb_mac> or source code to modify
2016-04-12T19:00:10 < dongs> thats opensores for you
2016-04-12T19:00:20 < dongs> it looked like some QT junk
2016-04-12T19:00:21 < emeb_mac> fully closed sores
2016-04-12T19:00:32 < emeb_mac> nothing to tweak
2016-04-12T19:01:24 < dongs> oops just dropped a metal scredriver across ftdi
2016-04-12T19:01:29 < dongs> and got usb disconnect
2016-04-12T19:01:44 < dongs> at least still works
2016-04-12T19:01:52 < emeb_mac> +1 for USB fuses
2016-04-12T19:02:03 < dongs> hey your demo app doesnt need CLK
2016-04-12T19:02:13 < dongs> from usb chip
2016-04-12T19:02:23 < dongs> the other shit would stop blinking when i pulled that plug
2016-04-12T19:03:17 < emeb_mac> dongs: ya - uses on-chip LF OSC
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2016-04-12T19:03:50 < emeb_mac> I've got another thing here that drives I2S DAC with sine & saw waves.
2016-04-12T19:04:04 < emeb_mac> uses ~5% of resources
2016-04-12T19:04:11 < dongs> ya dont have any DAC breakouts, no use for me :)
2016-04-12T19:04:13 < dongs> 24bit?
2016-04-12T19:04:17 < emeb_mac> 16
2016-04-12T19:04:28 < emeb_mac> could do 24 but pointless
2016-04-12T19:04:30 < dongs> what makes sintab?
2016-04-12T19:04:41 < dongs> lookup? or do you calculate it
2016-04-12T19:04:41 < emeb_mac> hex file generated with C code.
2016-04-12T19:04:46 < dongs> ah
2016-04-12T19:05:01 < emeb_mac> linked in to Verilog source w/ $readmemh()
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2016-04-12T19:05:50 < dongs> interesting
2016-04-12T19:05:58 < zyp> emeb_mac, I have one of those cams
2016-04-12T19:06:04 < zyp> with 7m cable
2016-04-12T19:06:06 < emeb_mac> zyp: any good?
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2016-04-12T19:06:36 < zyp> I bought it to look inside the walls here, useful enough for that purpose
2016-04-12T19:06:55 < emeb_mac> yeah - could use that for checking out the plumbing.
2016-04-12T19:07:01 < zyp> pretty shitty, but that should be obvious from the price
2016-04-12T19:07:18 < emeb_mac> had to get sewer pipes reworked last year. workers had cams on long cables too
2016-04-12T19:07:21 < zyp> but it helped a lot when I ran the cable for the new EV circuit
2016-04-12T19:09:42 < dongs> hm
2016-04-12T19:10:02 < dongs> how much ram total is in these things? wtf is the  diff distirbuted ram and embedded bloc kram
2016-04-12T19:10:06 < dongs> for some reason mouser is listing both
2016-04-12T19:10:09 < dongs> are they just trolling?
2016-04-12T19:10:11 < dongs> its 10k right?
2016-04-12T19:10:13 < dongs> 80kbit
2016-04-12T19:10:17 < emeb_mac> 80kb
2016-04-12T19:10:22 < emeb_mac> 20x 4kb
2016-04-12T19:10:27 < dongs> bit, ya?
2016-04-12T19:10:35 < emeb_mac> yes
2016-04-12T19:10:38 < emeb_mac> gotta go.
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2016-04-12T19:10:41 < dongs> bai
2016-04-12T19:10:47 < dongs> 1am should sleep
2016-04-12T19:11:53 < Laurenceb> http://writical.h4ytechnologiesl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/21.png?iv=261
2016-04-12T19:12:03 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/uz7oEuU.webm
2016-04-12T19:12:13 < Laurenceb> http://writical.h4ytechnologiesl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/110.png?iv=261
2016-04-12T19:12:33 < Laurenceb> http://writical.h4ytechnologiesl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/31.png?iv=261
2016-04-12T19:13:01 < Laurenceb> obvious fake video is fake
2016-04-12T19:13:05 < dongs> k
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2016-04-12T19:51:30 < Thorn> https://www.coursera.org/specializations/power-electronics <- they added stuff on control and magnetics to an existing course and split it all into 5 courses. can be joined for free if you find individual courses in the catalog
2016-04-12T19:52:38 < lorenzo> Total Price to Enroll
2016-04-12T19:52:39 < lorenzo> €264
2016-04-12T19:52:39 < lorenzo> wtf
2016-04-12T19:52:56 < lorenzo> that's about what I pay for 1 year at my university lol
2016-04-12T19:57:10 < Steffann> lucky you.
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2016-04-12T20:24:40 < Lux> how about 19€ per semester :P
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2016-04-12T20:30:19 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/GXO20Ot.jpg
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2016-04-12T20:54:30 < Steffann> The earth is round :)
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2016-04-12T23:05:40 < mitrax> ohsix: real as in, an actual female, not some guy with a wig pretending to be one
2016-04-12T23:08:31 < lorenzo> ohsix: hm I got the rutracker version of matlab
2016-04-12T23:08:33 < lorenzo> let me check
2016-04-12T23:08:59 < lorenzo> http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5196246
2016-04-12T23:09:02 < lorenzo> r2016a linux
2016-04-12T23:09:04 < lorenzo> works fine
2016-04-12T23:09:54 < lorenzo> should be the same, I think it's the official installer + .lic file
2016-04-12T23:11:50 < mitrax> ohsix: no... my point was that when you meet a programmer on irc that claims to be a woman, there's a 95% chance that it's a guy with sexual identity issues... in my experience anyway
2016-04-12T23:14:38 < lorenzo> mitrax: eh, I've known this girl on IRC for a while, and since she was incredibly good with C and algorithms in general I've asked her to send us a CV
2016-04-12T23:15:07 < lorenzo> she didn't want to at first, then I insisted, blah blah
2016-04-12T23:15:13 < lorenzo> turns out it's a he in a transition process
2016-04-12T23:15:14 < lorenzo> :/
2016-04-12T23:15:17 < mitrax> ahahahaha
2016-04-12T23:16:51 < mitrax> i'm not surprised... i've seen that happen many times.
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2016-04-12T23:20:19 < mitrax> i could care less if that didn't cause drama almost everytime, needless to say in a channel full of nerds everytime a "woman" shows up there's some flirting going on :)
2016-04-12T23:20:29 < mitrax> but i've had a few good laughs
2016-04-12T23:20:46 < lorenzo> mitrax: haha yeah, the fun part is that I think I'm the only one who knows about this
2016-04-12T23:23:52 < Steffann> export terrorists.
2016-04-12T23:24:21 < lorenzo> I think that's related to the 72 virgins they promise in their bullshit book
2016-04-12T23:25:34 < Steffann> You took the time to learn arabic and read it?
2016-04-12T23:26:14 < mitrax> ohsix: you don't get why?
2016-04-12T23:26:16 < mitrax> ohsix: you don't get what
2016-04-12T23:26:32 < jonsowman> zyp: still no luck, scope traces are nice and clean https://www.dropbox.com/s/qxn78dk0pw49bm2/sda_broken.png?dl=0
2016-04-12T23:26:39 < jonsowman> (sda when not working)
2016-04-12T23:26:48 < jonsowman> ~https://www.dropbox.com/s/r62pjlbsa9pllfi/scl_broken.png?dl=0
2016-04-12T23:26:50 < jonsowman> here's scl
2016-04-12T23:27:08 < Steffann> ohsix are you self-employed or retired?
2016-04-12T23:27:25 < jonsowman> sorry for not taking these simultaneously but timings are as in the logic analyser screenshots before
2016-04-12T23:27:54 < jonsowman> basically scope confirms exactly as logan, edges are sharp
2016-04-12T23:30:38 < mitrax> ohsix: it doesn't really matter, i just mentionned that as something i noticed, since the conversation was about sjw and "transgender acceptance" movements crap e.g: outreachy and the like
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2016-04-12T23:33:28 < Steffann> " the internet can report on stuff that you don't really care about" => IRC :P
2016-04-12T23:33:54 < mitrax> ohsix: that's why i stay away from tv and the news and any of that social media shit that is twitter... but regarding that matter those people are very vocal
2016-04-12T23:34:28 < Steffann> lol, this channel isnt much better mitrax
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2016-04-12T23:34:37 < mitrax> precisely, i shouldn't have clicked that link
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2016-04-12T23:34:54 < Steffann> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dc/47/75/dc4775647985280c1df7163bf0d93c1d.jpg replace the f by ##stm32 and you have the same thing
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2016-04-12T23:36:37 < mitrax> Steffann: except this channel doesn't lean on the politically correct side :p
2016-04-12T23:36:44 < mitrax> that said, the definition of what is politically correct and what's not is subjective, i give you that
2016-04-12T23:40:45 < mitrax> i don't know... everything is becoming offensive nowadays
2016-04-12T23:41:16 < lorenzo> yeah, you're almost forced/expected to be open and tolerant and welcoming and what not
2016-04-12T23:45:41 < mitrax> what i'm noticing is nowadays most people won't make any compromise, they think any idea that is not conform to what their belief system tells them make *any* input on *any* other subject worthless
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2016-04-12T23:47:38 < lorenzo> I think it's just that the digital medium makes it easy to forget the human behind it
2016-04-12T23:52:20 < mitrax> ok let me rephrase, i mean, it's very common for people to discard any input (whatever the subject) from another person once they realize that other person have views that differs radically from theirs, be it about religion, the political side they lean toward etc... when in fact there are still plenty of area where their interest intersects
2016-04-12T23:54:41 < mitrax> and it's very sad ... cause then it gets very easy to divide people into mental ghettos
2016-04-12T23:56:43 < mitrax> have fun
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2016-04-13T00:06:02 < wbraun> Any advice on how to get string formatting working on the STM32?
2016-04-13T00:06:42 < wbraun> sprintf fails. I seem to remember that ST provided a function of their own to do this but I am not having much luck finding documentation on it
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2016-04-13T01:10:19 < wbraun> I get weird errors relating to libc and undefined reference to “_sbrk”  when trying to use sprintf
2016-04-13T01:11:23 < zyp> what's your environment?
2016-04-13T01:12:18 < wbraun> GCC, cubemx
2016-04-13T01:13:17 < zyp> sprintf needs malloc, malloc needs sbrk, sbrk is what tells malloc where to get memory from
2016-04-13T01:13:51 < zyp> and the latter is platform specific, so it's usually provided by whatever support code you're using
2016-04-13T01:14:01 < zyp> along with startup code and linker scripts and the likes
2016-04-13T01:14:37 < zyp> I think there's a default implementation in libnosys, so you could try adding -lnosys
2016-04-13T01:14:38 < wbraun> why does it need malloc if I give it a buffer?
2016-04-13T01:15:40 < zyp> I haven't looked at the implementation, but I suppose it might need room to put temporary data when doing formatting
2016-04-13T01:16:57 < zyp> it's probably only called for specific formatting, but since the function refers to the symbol, it's required even if that branch is never taken
2016-04-13T01:17:53 < zyp> if malloc is never needed, but still referenced, you can get around it by providing a dummy sbrk that always returns 0
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2016-04-13T01:20:44 < mtbg> hi
2016-04-13T01:20:58 < wbraun> What do you mean by adding libnosys?
2016-04-13T01:21:06 < wbraun> Is this not something I can fix with a header file?
2016-04-13T01:21:34 < wbraun> Also, ST created their own data types, unit8_t, unit16_t, and so on
2016-04-13T01:22:04 < zyp> uh, no
2016-04-13T01:22:11 < zyp> those are standard C
2016-04-13T01:22:17 < zyp> defined in stdint.h
2016-04-13T01:22:28 < wbraun> or realy? I thought only int was
2016-04-13T01:22:39 < wbraun> they defined all these things in a header file they provide
2016-04-13T01:22:48 < zyp> stdint.h is part of the C standard library
2016-04-13T01:23:19 < wbraun> I dont think it was in stdint.h
2016-04-13T01:24:17 < mtbg> it could be in their local file, but that would be somewhat unwise
2016-04-13T01:24:48 < wbraun> Also, the serial transmit function expects a pointer to uint8_t while sprintf returns a pointer to char
2016-04-13T01:24:50 < mtbg> as it is compiler-dependent and also the names would conflict with stdint.h names if one uses stdint.h
2016-04-13T01:25:10 < wbraun> They are the same size, but different names, how can I resolve that?
2016-04-13T01:25:29 < mtbg> casting?
2016-04-13T01:25:59 < wbraun> ok. Cool.
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2016-04-13T01:27:03 < englishman> http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk
2016-04-13T01:27:04 < englishman> oh cool
2016-04-13T01:32:12 < wbraun> is adding libnosys a compiler flag or something similar?
2016-04-13T01:32:22 < wbraun> Or do I need to root around with the compiler files?
2016-04-13T01:33:14 < zyp> -lnosys
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2016-04-13T01:36:53 < mtbg> I think there was a rf transceiver with a microcontroller core and usb support that was used with nrf24l01 in wireless mouse/keyboard setups
2016-04-13T01:37:05 < mtbg> but I can't remember its symbol
2016-04-13T01:37:20 < mtbg> has anyone seen such thing?
2016-04-13T01:38:18 < mtbg> I mean, the chip was in the usb receiver dongle in such setups and was communicating with nrf24l01 in mouse/keyboard
2016-04-13T01:38:25 < aandrew> yes. by nordic as well
2016-04-13T01:38:27 < aandrew> it wasn't as well known
2016-04-13T01:39:09 < aandrew> nrf24LU1
2016-04-13T01:39:15 < mtbg> ok, thank you
2016-04-13T01:39:54 < aandrew> http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24LU1P
2016-04-13T01:40:16 < mtbg> hmm, 8051
2016-04-13T01:41:21 < kakimir> hello sensuals
2016-04-13T01:43:21 < mtbg> but well, not too bad
2016-04-13T01:43:32 < mtbg> will have to write in '51 assembly, though
2016-04-13T01:46:58 < wbraun> that requires me to use some compiler not from the ubuntu PPA
2016-04-13T01:47:53 < wbraun> I added -lnosys to my compiler flags and it did not change anything
2016-04-13T01:47:58 < mtbg> aandrew: seems like logitech unifying receiver uses the chip and is hackable
2016-04-13T01:48:33 < wbraun> hurm?
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2016-04-13T01:48:48 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr-lbKZcKDA finnish pop musics
2016-04-13T01:48:57 < wbraun> I tried adding it to my compiler flags and still same issue
2016-04-13T01:50:01 < wbraun> I use arm-none-eabi?
2016-04-13T01:50:45 < Thorn> wbraun: why would you want a printf that calls malloc() on a MCU anyway? there're implementations optimized for microcontrollers such as http://www.sparetimelabs.com/tinyprintf/tinyprintf.php etc.
2016-04-13T01:54:30 < wbraun> so now every time I want to build something on a new computer I need to mess with the compiler?
2016-04-13T01:54:36 < aandrew> what's that?
2016-04-13T01:54:56 < aandrew> mtbg: be careful, the LU01 comes in mask rom versions too
2016-04-13T01:55:52 < wbraun> So my main option is to mess with compiler files?
2016-04-13T01:56:24 < wbraun> so what do I need to get things working?
2016-04-13T01:56:32 < wbraun> I already have a linker script
2016-04-13T01:56:41 < wbraun> is it broken or something? It has worked fine in the past
2016-04-13T01:56:54 < wbraun> although I have never dealt with sprintf in the past
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2016-04-13T02:01:40 < kakimir> true niggas
2016-04-13T02:02:46 < kakimir> hard day workings on cars and motorcycles and big ass band saw
2016-04-13T02:03:08 < ds2> band saw? making slices of cars?
2016-04-13T02:03:39 < kakimir> nah
2016-04-13T02:03:54 < kakimir> friends workshop saw needed new bearings
2016-04-13T02:04:10 < ds2> wood shop?
2016-04-13T02:04:19 < kakimir> metal
2016-04-13T02:04:54 < ds2> how big of a band saw?
2016-04-13T02:06:28 < kakimir> my friend had a bit dissapointed look to his face when I showed up 8PM when he was leaving for sleeps
2016-04-13T02:07:11 < wbraun> is this something with my linker file ohsix?
2016-04-13T02:07:13 < mitrax> maybe a hint that it was not a good time :p ...
2016-04-13T02:07:42 < wbraun> I pulled one of the linker files from the STM32 example projects and still same issue
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2016-04-13T02:11:08 < wbraun> its a compiler flag, right?
2016-04-13T02:11:22 < wbraun> -lnosys?
2016-04-13T02:14:30 < wbraun> I should also be adding --specs=nano.specs?
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2016-04-13T02:15:19 < wbraun> I have a seperate compile / link stage. I added the -lnosys to both
2016-04-13T02:16:16 < wbraun> getting an error that nano.specs it not being found
2016-04-13T02:17:39 < wbraun> oh wait, --specs=nosys.specs too?
2016-04-13T02:17:48 < wbraun> I do have the mcput flag set correctly
2016-04-13T02:17:54 < wbraun> everything was working at some point in time...
2016-04-13T02:19:19 < wbraun> so I add -lnosys to my linker flags
2016-04-13T02:19:45 < wbraun> and I add  --specs=nosys.specs and --specs=nano.specs to linker flags?
2016-04-13T02:20:50 < wbraun> ooh, something changed!
2016-04-13T02:21:03 < wbraun> I got a new error message
2016-04-13T02:21:28 < wbraun> .ARM.exidx overlapps with .data
2016-04-13T02:22:23 < ds2> link map
2016-04-13T02:22:34 < ds2> is linker script sane?
2016-04-13T02:22:36 < wbraun> ouch. having --specs=nosys.specs in my linker flags gives an additional error about not being able to rename things
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2016-04-13T02:24:21 < wbraun> ok. So combination of new linker script from one of the example projects, --specs=nosys.specs as a compiler flag, and -lnosys as a linker flag appears to make things compiler
2016-04-13T02:24:45 < wbraun> I will have to figure out my linker script. Especially as I can not distribute that new linker script per the licence...
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2016-04-13T02:33:05 < wbraun> sweet, things appear to work for now! Thanks!
2016-04-13T02:33:29 < wbraun> next up is writing my own linker script / fixing the one I have been using...
2016-04-13T02:56:21 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Embedded-Software/pcb-design-schematic-layout/ haha wat
2016-04-13T02:57:56 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/PCB-Designer-Needed-DipTrace-files/
2016-04-13T02:57:59 < dongs> doh
2016-04-13T02:58:02 < dongs> i would do this if it wasnt a paki
2016-04-13T02:58:19 < dongs> i already have a couple variations of NES carts designed + manufactured
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2016-04-13T02:58:41 < dongs> why what
2016-04-13T02:59:00 < dongs> yes, did it twice and 3 d iffernet cart types
2016-04-13T02:59:08 < dongs> games were released on them
2016-04-13T02:59:12 < dongs> limited edition stuff.
2016-04-13T02:59:50 < dongs> they were fucking famicom games
2016-04-13T02:59:53 < dongs> waht else do you need to know
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2016-04-13T03:03:16 < dongs> wqhats teh blag vs ee content in it
2016-04-13T03:04:14 < dongs> sounds useless then
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2016-04-13T03:28:38 < dongs> hey autism6 shouldnt you be playing shitsouls3 and being quiet for the next few months
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2016-04-13T03:29:52 < dongs> crt: ya, its not bad. super easy to pickup, and will get the job done until you start doing really complex shit.
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2016-04-13T03:30:32 < dongs> ohsix, my jap pal didnt want my 4790k+32gb ram oldbox so I bought a trash case + power supply to put it in, will set it up at my other office for occasional altidong trolling
2016-04-13T03:32:23 < ReadError> dongs went with the 5820k
2016-04-13T03:32:34 < ReadError> much faster than the 6700k sheit
2016-04-13T03:33:26 < ReadError> plus 64gb ddr4 and sammy 950 pro m.2
2016-04-13T03:33:33 < ReadError> should rip balls
2016-04-13T03:39:53 < kakimir> dongs: you have pics of your office--?
2016-04-13T03:40:17 < dongs> yes
2016-04-13T03:40:21 < kakimir> place where all the troll work happens
2016-04-13T03:40:41 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/nE5zD
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2016-04-13T03:42:36 < kakimir> nice job
2016-04-13T03:42:39 < kakimir> cool office
2016-04-13T03:43:39 < kakimir> what the place used to be before that?
2016-04-13T03:44:35 < kakimir> flop?
2016-04-13T03:51:34 < ReadError> kakimir crash house
2016-04-13T03:51:41 < ReadError> place you just go to and sleep
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2016-04-13T03:55:24 < ReadError> ohsix The.Girlfriend.Experience.S01E01.720p.HDTV.x264-KILLERS
2016-04-13T03:55:26 < ReadError> good?
2016-04-13T04:05:26 < dongs> yes.
2016-04-13T04:07:25 < wbraun> crap. Looks like something is still wrong with sprintf. I am hitting the fault handler or something..
2016-04-13T04:08:08 < dongs> imgur album editor i sso retarded
2016-04-13T04:08:19 < dongs> i could add more pix to it but they're in separate albums for some reason
2016-04-13T04:09:23 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/Cy3pb this was good
2016-04-13T04:10:47 < dongs> "i tried to solder some pins but they just got removed, your pcb sucks!!!"
2016-04-13T04:10:56 < dongs> "p.s. i have 15 years of professional soldering experience"
2016-04-13T04:11:17 < wbraun> if I call sprintf for two different strings I end up at the WWDG_IRQHandler
2016-04-13T04:11:25 < wbraun> which I assume is acting as some sort of fault handler
2016-04-13T04:11:35 < dongs> wbraun: overwriting your sprintf buffer?
2016-04-13T04:11:39 < dongs> use snprintf
2016-04-13T04:11:53 < dongs> and pass bufsize
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2016-04-13T04:12:39 < dongs> crt: your jp trip itinerary http://imgur.com/gallery/RRS18
2016-04-13T04:12:42 < wbraun> I dont think so. Its messing up the linking or something?
2016-04-13T04:12:52 < wbraun> I added back the second sprintf and it never even made it there
2016-04-13T04:12:53 < kakimir> http://imgur.com/gallery/Muwd7 great story
2016-04-13T04:13:03 < wbraun> so its not happening when its getting called....
2016-04-13T04:15:10 < wbraun> am I running out of memory or something?
2016-04-13T04:17:27 < dongs> are you allocating memory?
2016-04-13T04:17:42 < dongs> did you already rewrite the shit with snprintf?
2016-04-13T04:18:48 < wbraun> whats the advantage of snprintf?
2016-04-13T04:19:00 < wbraun> Just that it can not overun the buffer?
2016-04-13T04:19:17 < dongs> correct
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2016-04-13T04:21:17 < wbraun> its still hitting the handler with snprintf
2016-04-13T04:21:31 < wbraun> its weird though, it does not even make it to that line of code
2016-04-13T04:21:38 < dongs> youre fucking up something else then.
2016-04-13T04:23:20 < wbraun> well, I can remove that line ane everything else is fine
2016-04-13T04:23:28 < wbraun> prehaps its something relating to the USB?
2016-04-13T04:23:49 < wbraun> stepping though it appears to be crashing on the delay the line before??
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2016-04-13T05:22:44 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/5xRRnO1.jpg $30 case complete such gaming rig wow
2016-04-13T05:22:52 < dongs> R2COM: ^
2016-04-13T05:23:46 < dongs> thats my  AMD FailPro W4100
2016-04-13T05:24:17 < dongs> yes
2016-04-13T05:24:31 < dongs> i tried to give away my old 4790k box but jap pal didnt want it
2016-04-13T05:24:40 < dongs> so I bought a trashcase and tarshpowesupply to go wiht it
2016-04-13T05:25:01 < dongs> stick it in my other office and run altidong on it from time to time
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2016-04-13T05:44:21 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goqx_5ZtbAc
2016-04-13T05:45:59 < PeterM> what is the anatomy of an eel like? is it mostly cartlidge, or is there a fair bit of meat?
2016-04-13T05:47:23 < dongs> fans wat
2016-04-13T05:47:50 < dongs> i wonder how long until they start selling ad space on boards
2016-04-13T05:48:03 < dongs> they already spam with so much retarded shit
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2016-04-13T05:48:59 < dongs> isnt that just default chinaEDA font
2016-04-13T05:49:03 < dongs> times new roman
2016-04-13T05:49:04 < dongs> cloner font
2016-04-13T05:49:25 < englishman> how many stm32s on motherboards?
2016-04-13T05:49:29 < englishman> i will also allow stm8
2016-04-13T05:49:49 < dongs> there's some nuvoton trash on there
2016-04-13T05:50:05 < dongs> i dont think theres a lot of space for a MCU
2016-04-13T05:50:11 < dongs> maybe those dumb flash-back usb shits
2016-04-13T05:50:25 < dongs> that one maybe runs by some cheap USB mcu that writes to spi flash
2016-04-13T05:50:31 < englishman> or those lan ping accelerators
2016-04-13T05:50:37 < dongs> no thats lunix
2016-04-13T05:50:40 < englishman> nvm
2016-04-13T05:51:35 < dongs> i think im gonna bid 5k on the nes project just to ask the paki what the fuck he needs them for
2016-04-13T05:51:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/improvementrust.html
2016-04-13T05:51:46 < dongs> hes a "php developer" in india
2016-04-13T05:51:50 < dongs> the fuck does he need NES boards for
2016-04-13T05:53:02 < dongs> your pay per blog contract was terminated
2016-04-13T05:59:32 < dongs> yes, no idea what that is at all
2016-04-13T06:12:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/PCB-Designer-Needed-DipTrace-files/
2016-04-13T06:28:32 < dongs> crt, looks like, not sure what the hell for
2016-04-13T06:28:42 < dongs> i mean when I got paid to clone them it was for a new game release
2016-04-13T06:28:51 < dongs> but a php - making paki with NES games???
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2016-04-13T06:32:34 < dongs> well his budget is too low regardless.
2016-04-13T06:38:16 < englishman> is nes/SNES shit even worth any think
2016-04-13T06:38:29 < englishman> I have nes, zappers, controllers, games etc
2016-04-13T06:38:55 < englishman> Refurbished by Nintendo when they still did that so it'd all mint
2016-04-13T06:39:24 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/121952187948
2016-04-13T06:39:42 < englishman> sealed mint bomber man
2016-04-13T06:40:00 < englishman> OK, maybe another 20yrs
2016-04-13T06:40:30 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/141956605631
2016-04-13T06:40:31 < dongs> lole
2016-04-13T06:40:54 < PeterM> >make an offer
2016-04-13T06:40:58 < PeterM> > $3.50
2016-04-13T06:41:17 < englishman> inkjet printer and vacuum sealer, $350
2016-04-13T06:42:09 < dongs>   http://www.ebay.com/itm/272115727619
2016-04-13T06:42:20 < dongs> someone wants to buy a PS4
2016-04-13T06:42:50 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/172158537971 i have one of tehse
2016-04-13T06:43:27 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272208975086 haha
2016-04-13T06:44:04 < dongs> why did he take apart the cart?
2016-04-13T06:44:07 < dongs> to show that its not clone?
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2016-04-13T06:45:06 < dongs>  No international shipping, and no shipping to Alaska, Hawaii, or P.O Boxes.
2016-04-13T06:45:06 < dongs> racist
2016-04-13T06:49:06 < dongs> does he 3d print teh cases or wat
2016-04-13T06:49:22 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-13T06:49:24 < dongs> looks shapeways-ish
2016-04-13T06:49:49 < dongs> ah hm looks molded from another angle
2016-04-13T06:50:01 < dongs> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9tIAAOSwAvJXDTt2/s-l1600.jpg
2016-04-13T07:36:09 < dongs> kept reading that as nintendoge
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2016-04-13T07:54:49 < dongs> ohsix, time to get into teledildonics
2016-04-13T07:55:17 < dongs> instead of making $0/hr doing nothing
2016-04-13T07:56:03 < dongs> well chats no longer pay
2016-04-13T07:56:06 < dongs> so time to find osmething t o do
2016-04-13T07:57:13 < dongs> yes
2016-04-13T07:57:47 < dongs> nice. shitty logitech speakers i bought for the office just shipped
2016-04-13T07:59:04 < dongs> yes lots of t hem
2016-04-13T07:59:39 < dongs> they were the only paypalable choice form local shop
2016-04-13T07:59:42 < dongs> that wasnt $9 garbage
2016-04-13T07:59:58 < dongs> http://www.logitech.com/en-roeu/product/multimedia-speakers-z533?WT.mc_id=EMEA_none%20_Affiliate_#UserID#_022016_de_de
2016-04-13T08:00:18 < dongs> i think it ewnded up being around $100-ish, i dont need more than that for streaming jpop
2016-04-13T08:01:05 < dongs> doesnt matter
2016-04-13T08:01:32 < dongs> yes
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2016-04-13T08:02:05 < dongs> i got the genuine pioneer pyramids from crt
2016-04-13T08:02:54 < dongs> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2644069
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2016-04-13T08:06:06 < dongs> no, i thoguht you were looking
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2016-04-13T08:08:56 < dongs> crt, as opposed to what, stealing it?
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2016-04-13T08:09:30 < dongs> do you disappove?
2016-04-13T08:09:31 < dongs> i have 3
2016-04-13T08:09:51 < dongs> i had a dsi until shit got stolen
2016-04-13T08:10:02 < dongs> now got 2x 3ds and 3ds xl
2016-04-13T08:12:25 < dongs> finally finsihed loading dicknplace, almost complete reload for this dumb japproj
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2016-04-13T10:30:21 < ReadError> burrrrrrrr
2016-04-13T10:31:41 < lorenzo> audiophool
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2016-04-13T10:33:03 < ReadError> there was that one site
2016-04-13T10:33:09 < ReadError> that had all those funny reviews
2016-04-13T10:33:32 < ReadError> like obviously trolling but onpart hififgts
2016-04-13T10:34:32 < ReadError> doubt computers wrote it
2016-04-13T10:34:36 < ReadError> if thats what you mean
2016-04-13T10:35:29 < ReadError> the rich autistic
2016-04-13T10:35:33 < ReadError> i guess
2016-04-13T10:36:25 < PeterM> i dunno, he seems like hes finally lost his mind, talking to himself and all
2016-04-13T10:37:29 < ReadError> ohsix the super rich dont have time to read reviews
2016-04-13T10:37:42 < ReadError> they just be like jenkins get me the best X
2016-04-13T10:38:00 < PeterM> so they pay jenkins to read reviews?
2016-04-13T10:38:18 < ReadError> PeterM nah jenkins finds someone that knows whats up
2016-04-13T10:38:22 < ReadError> and pays them
2016-04-13T10:38:43 < PeterM> jenkins, what a top bloke, not liek that ohsix shitcunt
2016-04-13T10:40:09 < ReadError> what about all the free energy people out there
2016-04-13T10:40:10 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-13T10:42:02 < ReadError> idk these youtubers dont seem right
2016-04-13T10:42:04 < ReadError> rich*
2016-04-13T10:42:05 < ReadError> wtf
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2016-04-13T10:43:47 < ReadError> huh what
2016-04-13T10:43:57 < ReadError> nah these fools are making shit out of bike wheels
2016-04-13T10:44:00 < ReadError> and other garbage
2016-04-13T10:44:55 < ReadError> no
2016-04-13T10:45:00 < ReadError> free energy people
2016-04-13T10:45:19 < ReadError> i troll this one guy
2016-04-13T10:45:25 < ReadError> hes into all sorts of retarded shit
2016-04-13T10:45:28 < ReadError> cloud busters
2016-04-13T10:45:32 < ReadError> 'orgonite'
2016-04-13T10:45:41 < ReadError> thinks chemtrails are real etcs lol
2016-04-13T10:46:02 < ReadError> nah this is gov poison apparently lol
2016-04-13T10:46:08 < ReadError> nutjub 100%
2016-04-13T10:48:06 < ReadError> what makes them super butthurt is to prove something
2016-04-13T10:48:13 < ReadError> then they just rage and call you a sheep
2016-04-13T10:49:31 < ReadError> oh no
2016-04-13T10:49:39 < ReadError> apparently alex jones works for the gov
2016-04-13T10:49:47 < ReadError> (so ive been told)
2016-04-13T10:49:59 < ReadError> cant stand the guy
2016-04-13T10:53:10 < ReadError> ohsix http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft/
2016-04-13T10:53:15 < ReadError> some LRH'er pasted this
2016-04-13T10:54:21 < ReadError> * weev (weev@SS.NAZI.NET) has joined #
2016-04-13T10:54:25 < ReadError> how the hell did he get nazi.net
2016-04-13T10:54:48 < ReadError> oh its hosted on afraid.org dns
2016-04-13T10:55:13 < ReadError> http://freedns.afraid.org/
2016-04-13T10:55:18 < ReadError> nah its pointed there
2016-04-13T10:55:22 < ReadError> so anyone can make host
2016-04-13T10:56:04 < ReadError> may try win10 on new machine
2016-04-13T10:57:34 < ReadError> you lost me
2016-04-13T10:59:03 < ReadError> need a new managed gigE switch
2016-04-13T10:59:08 < ReadError> something that can do link agg
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2016-04-13T11:08:20 < dongs> lol @ jitterbug
2016-04-13T11:08:55 < dongs> sweet, you can parallel them
2016-04-13T11:08:59 < dongs> for even less jitter
2016-04-13T11:09:07 < dongs> gonna order one for each port
2016-04-13T11:09:37 < dongs> how much is it
2016-04-13T11:10:54 < dongs> its in the price list but price not shown
2016-04-13T11:11:18 < dongs> Noise-Dissipation System
2016-04-13T11:11:22 < dongs> http://www.audioquest.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/AQ_PB_US-Retail_15-12-01.pdf
2016-04-13T11:14:28 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linksys-SRW2048-10-100-1000-Ethernet-Switch-1U-with-Rack-ears-and-Power-cable-/322065496489
2016-04-13T11:14:34 < ReadError> thse seem pretty legit for the price
2016-04-13T11:14:49 < ReadError> they have a loud fan apparently though
2016-04-13T11:15:25 < dongs> readcloner, is it only gigabit on teh sfp ports
2016-04-13T11:15:29 < dongs> and the rest are 10/1100
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2016-04-13T11:16:01 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-13T11:16:07 < dongs> i gave away my old 3com gigabutt
2016-04-13T11:16:11 < dongs> replaced with that mikrotik thing.
2016-04-13T11:16:18 < dongs> plus the fan in 3com was fucking terrible
2016-04-13T11:16:34 < ReadError> http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/csbms/srw2048/administration/guide/SRW-US_v10_UG_A-Web.pdf
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2016-04-13T11:16:38 < ReadError> doesnt seem so dongs
2016-04-13T11:17:35 < ReadError> SRW2048 48-port 10/100/1000 Gigabit Switch with
2016-04-13T11:17:36 < ReadError> WebView. Includes 48 10/100/1000 RJ-45 ports and 4
2016-04-13T11:17:36 < ReadError> shared SFP (MiniGBIC) slots
2016-04-13T11:18:01 < ReadError> the SFP is for uplinks to other switches
2016-04-13T11:19:05 < ReadError> i already bought this ;(
2016-04-13T11:19:30 < PeterM> not even SFP+?
2016-04-13T11:19:48 < ReadError> PeterM dont need that myself
2016-04-13T11:19:59 < ReadError> i have a managed dell but its pretty shitty
2016-04-13T11:20:01 < ReadError> management wise
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2016-04-13T11:28:18 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3CRRtrfL/IMG_1411.JPG
2016-04-13T11:28:25 < ReadError> finally got this shit pretty much done
2016-04-13T11:28:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/GD8RLRO.jpg gaming rig done
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2016-04-13T11:29:17 < ReadError> me or dongs?
2016-04-13T11:29:28 < dongs> is that your ghettoe-bike
2016-04-13T11:29:38 < ReadError> mountain board
2016-04-13T11:29:40 < ReadError> electric
2016-04-13T11:30:17 < ReadError> oh ive just collected equipment over time
2016-04-13T11:31:05 < ReadError> plus i have a job
2016-04-13T11:31:07 < ReadError> so that helps
2016-04-13T11:32:01 < dongs> wat happen afer you buy it
2016-04-13T11:32:05 < dongs> will you actually start developing stm32 stuff
2016-04-13T11:32:13 < dongs> or just continue pumping
2016-04-13T11:32:14 < dongs> like ohsix
2016-04-13T11:33:02 < dongs> In order to fabricate copper or silver into a strand or
2016-04-13T11:33:03 < dongs> conductor, it must fi rst be cast and then drawn through
2016-04-13T11:33:03 < dongs> a die—a process that inevitably creates a directional,
2016-04-13T11:33:03 < dongs> chevron-like pattern in the conductor’s internal grain
2016-04-13T11:33:03 < dongs> structure. While some have worked to eradicate
2016-04-13T11:33:05 < dongs> conductor directionality and others have decided to
2016-04-13T11:33:07 < dongs> ignore it altogether, we have learned to use conductor
2016-04-13T11:33:10 < dongs> directionality to our advantage.
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2016-04-13T11:33:38 < dongs> did you know? HDMI cables are directional
2016-04-13T11:34:50 < dongs> i dunno man
2016-04-13T11:35:00 < dongs> never draw any wires through a die
2016-04-13T11:40:25 < dongs> wut
2016-04-13T11:40:31 < dongs> its jewpad lcd
2016-04-13T11:42:32 < dongs> it clips cuz the guy fucked up cutting it and gave me the 1st version
2016-04-13T11:42:42 < dongs> miscalculated solid dongs
2016-04-13T11:44:06 < dongs> i just put that one togther it was in a box for like 2 years
2016-04-13T11:44:25 < dongs> huh
2016-04-13T11:44:33 < dongs> nintendo released 3DSLL "super famicom edition"
2016-04-13T11:44:48 < dongs> colors for buttons are famicom and back side looks like the back of console
2016-04-13T11:44:55 < dongs> or front rather
2016-04-13T11:45:02 < dongs> its like $200
2016-04-13T11:45:19 < dongs> heh
2016-04-13T11:46:55 < dongs> oh, that shit is just for preorder now
2016-04-13T11:47:00 < dongs> http://japanese.engadget.com/2016/04/12/4-27-new-3ds-ll-7/
2016-04-13T11:47:40 < dongs> shipping from july
2016-04-13T11:47:45 < dongs> its almost like a dickstarter
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2016-04-13T11:50:16 < dongs> shit game either way
2016-04-13T11:50:20 < dongs> so no problem
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2016-04-13T12:00:33 < dongs> why wouldnt it be
2016-04-13T12:03:25 < dongs> gameboy
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2016-04-13T12:05:23 < upgrdman_> with NPN BJTs, is Vb > Vc, the parasitic diode between base and collector starts to turn on, right?
2016-04-13T12:05:48 < upgrdman_> i miss the capacitive gates of nmos :/
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2016-04-13T12:06:21 < upgrdman_> i'd look it up to, but fucking net in .cn sucks so much
2016-04-13T12:06:30 < upgrdman_> fuck it, i no longer care
2016-04-13T12:06:54 < upgrdman_> crt, ok, well maybe not "parasitic" but "not desirable"
2016-04-13T12:07:08 < Thorn> it's saturation. both junctions are on. there's no parasitic diode
2016-04-13T12:07:23 < upgrdman_> k
2016-04-13T12:08:01 < Thorn> one of them is a zener iirc
2016-04-13T12:08:11 < Thorn> b-e
2016-04-13T12:08:15 < ReadError> dongs beboop
2016-04-13T12:08:19 < dongs> dongs
2016-04-13T12:08:21 < ReadError> what was that TI part you used
2016-04-13T12:08:26 < ReadError> for the extra usb power
2016-04-13T12:08:26 < dongs> for?
2016-04-13T12:08:34 < upgrdman_> ohsix, i'll add that to my list of shit to do when back in the 1st world
2016-04-13T12:08:36 < upgrdman_> no joke
2016-04-13T12:08:38 < ReadError> not cloning just making a little 1s charger
2016-04-13T12:08:39 < dongs> you mean the thing to give 1.2A or wahtever?
2016-04-13T12:08:41 < ReadError> ya
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2016-04-13T12:08:48 < dongs> SUPERCHARGERPRO
2016-04-13T12:08:49 < dongs> sec
2016-04-13T12:09:10 < dongs> tps2513a
2016-04-13T12:09:41 < ReadError> tankss
2016-04-13T12:10:02 < upgrdman_> ohsix, cn loves to fuck with vpns. iirc they send tcp reset packets, etc.
2016-04-13T12:10:08 < dongs> there's non-A and a couple otehr versions
2016-04-13T12:10:12 < dongs> check which one you acutally wanan clone
2016-04-13T12:10:17 < dongs> that was just one generic datasheet for 4 of them
2016-04-13T12:10:20 < dongs> i forgot wat the difference was
2016-04-13T12:10:23 < upgrdman_> so i can be vpn'ing and it just drops out
2016-04-13T12:10:28 < upgrdman_> also, slow as fuck
2016-04-13T12:10:38 < upgrdman_> like 4Mbit/s is fucking amazeballs over here.
2016-04-13T12:10:48 < upgrdman_> typically i get <200Kbit/s
2016-04-13T12:11:11 < dongs> where do tehy have you staying
2016-04-13T12:11:13 < dongs> at the office?
2016-04-13T12:11:16 < upgrdman_> i miss my 60Mbps connection in the 1st world
2016-04-13T12:11:20 < dongs> or tehy have you in one of those foxconn factory housings
2016-04-13T12:11:23 < dongs> with nets
2016-04-13T12:11:26 < upgrdman_> dongs, work in the office, stay in a hotel
2016-04-13T12:11:32 < upgrdman_> no
2016-04-13T12:11:32 < upgrdman_> lol
2016-04-13T12:11:35 < upgrdman_> real hotel
2016-04-13T12:11:38 < dongs> not bad
2016-04-13T12:11:39 < upgrdman_> but equally depressing
2016-04-13T12:11:53 < mitrax> have you visited the massage lounge floor yet?
2016-04-13T12:12:10 < upgrdman_> mitrax, no but i've received business cards
2016-04-13T12:12:31 < upgrdman_> mitrax, http://www.farrellf.com/temp/business_cards_cn.jpg
2016-04-13T12:12:40 < mitrax> ahahah
2016-04-13T12:13:11 < Thorn> dongs: which lattice eval board did you get?
2016-04-13T12:13:28 < dongs> < dongs> ICE5LP4K-B-EVN
2016-04-13T12:13:55 < upgrdman_> yes
2016-04-13T12:14:32 < Thorn> can you use it to program other boards?
2016-04-13T12:14:51 < dongs> well uh.. its just a shitty+awful ftdi breakout for programming
2016-04-13T12:14:55 < mitrax> that's the first thing a friend i work with did when we went to SZ... on the first night "hey let's go to the massage parlor"... told him he could have ordered an asian escort at home would have been less expensive than a trip to china
2016-04-13T12:15:19 < dongs> Thorn: the ice5 is spi, a lot(?) of other lattice stuff is jtag
2016-04-13T12:15:31 < dongs> so you probably could but using different pins or i dunno
2016-04-13T12:15:36 < dongs> not something i cared to loko into
2016-04-13T12:16:15 < upgrdman_> if anyone cares, the lattice machxo2 breakout board can be used to program offboard fpgas if you cut two traces (disconnect TDI/TDO from onboard FPGA)
2016-04-13T12:16:19 < Thorn> so the ftdi ic is basically a usb->spi bridge
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2016-04-13T12:16:46 < Thorn> lattice has too many families
2016-04-13T12:16:51 < upgrdman_> ftdi on my xo2 board is usb->jtag
2016-04-13T12:17:00 < Thorn> I've been looking at ice40hx
2016-04-13T12:17:09 < upgrdman_> but it can also do usb-> uart or spi or i2c or jtag
2016-04-13T12:17:57 < Thorn> yeah I used that chip somewhere in 2012 :/
2016-04-13T12:18:14 < mitrax> anyway, after she jerked him off or whatever he got a real massage and the day after he told me "eh she massaged my back, but damn it was very rough, she pushed really hard back down" ... 24h later he complained that he had a horrible belly / back pain, we thought that it was food poisoning
2016-04-13T12:18:36 < Thorn> (assuming it's a ft2232)
2016-04-13T12:19:17 < mitrax> then 2 hours later we were at the chinese emergencies... turned out he had a kidney stone that detached and got stuckn, renal colic
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2016-04-13T12:19:45 < mitrax> memorable trip ... i tell you
2016-04-13T12:20:42 < mitrax> but anyway, it's might not be "1st world" but they're damn well organized ... diagnosis was done in two hours (wait time included)... with blood test, piss test, echography, radiography, consultation with two doctors
2016-04-13T12:21:15 < mitrax> and the bill was .... $120 or something
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2016-04-13T12:24:35 < mitrax> and a girl we met one day before at the SEG market that had gave me her card was kind enough to get us to the hospital and spend the whole time with us at the ER
2016-04-13T12:25:11 < mitrax> maybe my experience with chinese people is biased cause of that, but overall i found them to be very nice
2016-04-13T12:25:51 < mitrax> no... i gave her money for the taxi and the trouble, she refused it
2016-04-13T12:27:01 < mitrax> during another trip... a friend forgot a bag in a restaurant... with $7500 in cash (he had one thing to pay attention to ... but believe it or not he left it there)
2016-04-13T12:28:17 < mitrax> he realized he had left the bag there... came back two hours later, the waitress had put it aside, gave him back, he was so relieved he wanted to give her money, she refused too :)
2016-04-13T12:28:36 < mitrax> sure
2016-04-13T12:28:53 < mitrax> ohsix: yup
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2016-04-13T12:29:35 < upgrdman_> people are nice
2016-04-13T12:29:43 < upgrdman_> everything else, not so much
2016-04-13T12:30:14 < upgrdman_> attention to detail is MUCH lower in cn than in the 1st world
2016-04-13T12:30:17 < upgrdman_> like everything
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2016-04-13T12:30:57 < upgrdman_> yes
2016-04-13T12:31:12 < upgrdman_> many buildings have walls with big cracks
2016-04-13T12:31:14 < upgrdman_> inside and out
2016-04-13T12:31:27 < upgrdman_> i'll upload some pix when im back in 1st world
2016-04-13T12:31:45 < Sync> yeah idk what that is about upgrdman_
2016-04-13T12:31:55 < Sync> or the bridge filled with trash :D
2016-04-13T12:31:55 < upgrdman_> poor construction
2016-04-13T12:32:01 < upgrdman_> shit foundations
2016-04-13T12:32:01 < upgrdman_> and
2016-04-13T12:32:05 < upgrdman_> shit walls
2016-04-13T12:32:14 < mitrax> ohsix: not sure ... but i was refering to westerners that go there to buy stuff... they're super paranoid and think they will get ripped off at every corner... of course you can if you're not careful but they have an attitude toward the chinese that i don't like
2016-04-13T12:32:16 < upgrdman_> so any settling, and shit fucking moves
2016-04-13T12:33:27 < upgrdman_> mitrax, im in shanghai, not shenzhen, and it seems like more vendors here are reasonable people, but i still distrust the stuff they sell
2016-04-13T12:33:36 < upgrdman_> like no way i would buy an sd card or hdd here
2016-04-13T12:33:46 < upgrdman_> who knows how much it really holds
2016-04-13T12:34:00 < upgrdman_> also so many no name brands
2016-04-13T12:34:29 < upgrdman_> so its not like they manufuckturer needs to worry about their reputation
2016-04-13T12:35:03 < upgrdman_> but ya, the people here are nice
2016-04-13T12:35:04 < mitrax> upgrdman_: sure, all depends what you buy, for final products you're more likely to get fucked, but for parts if you're careful there are some pretty nice deal  you can make
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2016-04-13T12:35:45 < upgrdman_> it feels safer here than in many parts of so cal
2016-04-13T12:36:06 < upgrdman_> ya lots of vendors who just sell what they acquired
2016-04-13T12:36:44 < upgrdman_> no idea how it works or why it works
2016-04-13T12:36:59 < upgrdman_> i've even had ebay vendors suggest i look for details by searching the internet
2016-04-13T12:37:32 < upgrdman_> "is a part number of datasheet available for this?" "sorry we have listed all the info we have. please search the internet for more documents"
2016-04-13T12:37:33 < mitrax> one thing i noticed is chinese women are *much* more reliable/serious than men :) then again it's just a feeling i have
2016-04-13T12:37:39 < upgrdman_> *part number or datasheet
2016-04-13T12:38:19 < Sync> upgrdman_: that I know, but idk how they can live with that shiet
2016-04-13T12:38:32 < mitrax> ohsix: definitely
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2016-04-13T12:39:21 < upgrdman_> it was kinda nice to design a simple pcb here, and have a chinaman hand me the fab'd pcb in like 3 days.
2016-04-13T12:42:05 < mitrax> i guess it's the IP culture (or lack of rather) that makes manufacturing the way it is in china
2016-04-13T12:42:24 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/BLQeJxk.png
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2016-04-13T12:44:42 < dongs> ReadError: why do you e ven care
2016-04-13T12:44:54 < upgrdman_> ohsix, lots of people don't travel internationally. they see and hear things locally and never get a bigger frame of reference.
2016-04-13T12:44:55 < upgrdman_> they fail to see hypocracy, etc
2016-04-13T12:45:37 < ReadError> dongs bandwidth conscious, going green, save energy
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2016-04-13T12:46:08 < dongs> you just bought a fucking 48port rackmount switch
2016-04-13T12:46:15 < dongs> that thing guzzles 100W
2016-04-13T12:46:18 < dongs> minimum
2016-04-13T12:46:31 < ReadError> well also I dont think MS has any reason to see wtf im doing
2016-04-13T12:47:06 < upgrdman_> ohsix, i think a lot of people misplace their resentment
2016-04-13T12:47:20 < ReadError> the option is 'okay'
2016-04-13T12:47:21 < upgrdman_> they say "china" when they mean "low cost" or "not 1st world"
2016-04-13T12:47:29 < ReadError> but not having the option to disable it is fucked
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2016-04-13T12:49:43 < ReadError> previous versions prompted you, no?
2016-04-13T12:49:55 < upgrdman_> bbl
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2016-04-13T12:50:34 < ReadError> im hardly a tinfoil hat german tho
2016-04-13T12:50:39 < ReadError> those guys are hardcore
2016-04-13T12:50:47 < ReadError> lunix desktops, no gmail/youtube etc
2016-04-13T12:54:25 < mitrax> and you fuck ducks
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2016-04-13T13:02:23 < mitrax> what time is it in OZ?
2016-04-13T13:03:00 < mitrax> still at work?
2016-04-13T13:03:38 < mitrax> watch a movie or something
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2016-04-13T13:06:04 < mitrax> shower day?
2016-04-13T13:06:33 < mitrax> what's wrong with gcc?
2016-04-13T13:06:40  * mitrax waits for dongs wrath
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2016-04-13T13:15:23 < ReadError> http://i.snag.gy/oO5HR.jpg
2016-04-13T13:15:31 < ReadError> think my freenas is about to shit the bed
2016-04-13T13:22:10 < PeterM> ReadError, in that case, pull everything off it so it crashes under the load
2016-04-13T13:22:30 < ReadError> i think its upset im above 80% utilization
2016-04-13T13:22:41 < ReadError> it put up a critical that im at 82%
2016-04-13T13:23:11 < dongs> free as in aids
2016-04-13T13:23:29 < ReadError> going to move everything over to synolology
2016-04-13T13:28:19 < ReadError> hmm actually i got a little atom shit I should throw some disk in
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2016-04-13T13:40:34 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-128GB-Drive-SDDD2-128G-G46/dp/B019FN63OO/
2016-04-13T13:40:37 < ReadError> pretty slick
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2016-04-13T13:45:04 < PeterM> neat, pretty cheap too
2016-04-13T13:46:49 < ReadError> yea for 128 not bad
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2016-04-13T13:50:01 < dongs> why does it look dumb
2016-04-13T13:51:35 < PeterM> hi crt
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2016-04-13T13:52:06 < dongs> on the dong
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2016-04-13T14:34:30 < zyp> dongs, status on shit?
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2016-04-13T14:43:57 < ReadError> going to try this auto update thing, lets see how badly this will go
2016-04-13T14:43:59 < mitrax> crt: is that an instrument case on the left?
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2016-04-13T14:45:13 < mitrax> looks like there's a guitar amp too
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2016-04-13T14:49:54 < ReadError> well hey it actually worked
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2016-04-13T16:00:32 < dongs> zyp, failing, each time i try to as semble it i find more parts missing
2016-04-13T16:00:47 < dongs> most disorganized shit ever
2016-04-13T16:00:54 < zyp> haha
2016-04-13T16:01:56 < ReadError> zyp turns out the new broadwell-e shit works w/ the x99 chipsets
2016-04-13T16:02:03 < ReadError> i think it was you i was talking about that with the other day
2016-04-13T16:02:20 < zyp> sure it works
2016-04-13T16:02:29 < ReadError> just needs a bios update
2016-04-13T16:02:30 < zyp> but do you get all features?
2016-04-13T16:02:38 < zyp> like
2016-04-13T16:02:58 < ReadError> http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-e-processor-asrock-bios-x99-boards/#ixzz45i91FmsH
2016-04-13T16:03:00 < zyp> ivy bridge is socket 1155, same as sandy bridge
2016-04-13T16:03:06 < zyp> and would work in sandy bridge motherboards
2016-04-13T16:03:30 < zyp> but you wouldn't be able to use pcie3, which was new in ivy bridge
2016-04-13T16:03:31 < zyp> IIRC
2016-04-13T16:03:53 < ReadError> "The current X99 motherboards are fully capable and ready for Next-Gen Broadwell-E processors!"
2016-04-13T16:04:27 < zyp> assuming broadwell-e won't introduce anything new that requires additional hardware support
2016-04-13T16:04:51 < zyp> I think there were a similar thing about ddr3 vs ddr4
2016-04-13T16:05:24 < zyp> and even so, there's so little difference between two subsequent generations that there's no really much of a gain
2016-04-13T16:05:29 < ReadError> yea really
2016-04-13T16:05:34 < ReadError> Intel Core i7-6800K
2016-04-13T16:05:41 < ReadError> doesnt seem any better than the 5820k
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2016-04-13T16:05:56 < ReadError> same cache size
2016-04-13T16:06:15 < ReadError> guess things have kinda flatlined so they are trying to do lower power stuff
2016-04-13T16:06:36 < zyp> another question is how much cpu power do you really need?
2016-04-13T16:06:51 < zyp> I've yet to find my 3770k lacking in power
2016-04-13T16:07:35 < ReadError> probably not so much CPU power as the extra ram
2016-04-13T16:07:47 < ReadError> my current desktops are like 5 years old
2016-04-13T16:08:07 < dongs> yeah the xtreme shit is retarded
2016-04-13T16:08:11 < dongs> $1k wasted for no reason
2016-04-13T16:08:24 < zyp> my ivy bridge workstation is from 2012, and it still feels like new to me
2016-04-13T16:08:47 < dongs> zyp, thats probbly cuz it runs lunix, 80x25 textmode is always fast
2016-04-13T16:09:02 < zyp> no, I've never ran linux on it
2016-04-13T16:09:05 < ReadError> dongs i didnt waste any $$
2016-04-13T16:09:30 < dongs> k
2016-04-13T16:09:33 < ReadError> i got a banging deal too, 289$ USD
2016-04-13T16:09:37 < ReadError> shits like 400 anywhere else
2016-04-13T16:09:48 < dongs> yea but socket2011
2016-04-13T16:09:51 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-13T16:09:56 < dongs> useless
2016-04-13T16:09:59 < ReadError> lol why
2016-04-13T16:10:15 < zyp> pointless unless you need the pcie lanes, I'd say
2016-04-13T16:10:16 < dongs> only use is gaming
2016-04-13T16:10:17 < dongs> wiht more pcie
2016-04-13T16:10:38 < ReadError> well a 6700 would have costed more
2016-04-13T16:10:50 < dongs> shrug
2016-04-13T16:10:52 < ReadError> so didnt see the point in going that route, dont need the GPU
2016-04-13T16:11:33 < zyp> I kinda wish I went with a motherboard with more pcie slots for my server, so I wouldn't have to resort to this: https://bin.jvnv.net/f/emEVb.JPG
2016-04-13T16:12:05 < zyp> though, having two slots that could do 8x mode would be enough, and wouldn't require 2011
2016-04-13T16:12:12 < ReadError> fiber?
2016-04-13T16:12:25 < zyp> yeah, fiber 10g
2016-04-13T16:12:30 < ReadError> noiiiceee
2016-04-13T16:13:18 < ReadError> http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MSI-X99S-Gaming-Motherboard.jpg
2016-04-13T16:13:23 < ReadError> wtf happened to regular ole mobos
2016-04-13T16:13:30 < ReadError> all these new gaming ones look retarded
2016-04-13T16:13:47 < dongs> fuck all the ones with wifi included
2016-04-13T16:13:50 < dongs> completely fucking useless
2016-04-13T16:13:51 < ReadError> agreed
2016-04-13T16:14:02 < zyp> idk
2016-04-13T16:14:03 < ReadError> would take multiple NICs over that
2016-04-13T16:14:19 < zyp> wifi included could be kinda convenient
2016-04-13T16:15:07 < zyp> in a "better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it" way
2016-04-13T16:15:30 < zyp> usb wifi dongles are awful
2016-04-13T16:16:05 < ReadError> the alfa ones work pretty well
2016-04-13T16:16:09 < ReadError> some of them anyways
2016-04-13T16:17:49 < Laurenceb> oh my god
2016-04-13T16:17:54 < Laurenceb> my eyes are bleeding
2016-04-13T16:18:08 < Laurenceb>  "STREAMING ENGINE"
2016-04-13T16:18:40 < ReadError> ya wtf is that
2016-04-13T16:19:09 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Cube-Case/dp/B00F3ZN55E?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
2016-04-13T16:19:24 < ReadError> got that, least gaymer looking thing and kinda dig the profile
2016-04-13T16:19:25 < dongs> WLED
2016-04-13T16:19:38 < dongs> < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/5xRRnO1.jpg best case ever, $30
2016-04-13T16:19:41 < dongs> super light too
2016-04-13T16:19:52 < ReadError> hmmm
2016-04-13T16:19:53 < dongs> it feels like it was made out of paper-thin aluminum or something
2016-04-13T16:19:56 < ReadError> think i have something like that
2016-04-13T16:19:58 < ReadError> thermaltake?
2016-04-13T16:20:18 < dongs> no lol enermax or someshit
2016-04-13T16:20:21 < dongs> maybe jap rebrand
2016-04-13T16:20:23 < ReadError> oh lol
2016-04-13T16:20:28 < dongs> has ECA3360 label on it
2016-04-13T16:20:46 < dongs> http://www.enermax.com/files/ProductFile_eng/PF_File/682.pdf
2016-04-13T16:20:50 < dongs> yeah looks like only jappus are selling it
2016-04-13T16:20:56 < ReadError> no M.2 ssd?
2016-04-13T16:21:18 < dongs> that board rapes PCIe lanes for SSD anyway.
2016-04-13T16:21:39 < dongs> i threw in some old intel 2.5" in there on sata
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2016-04-13T16:29:24 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF7xIHKx6As
2016-04-13T16:29:33 < PeterM> the actual fuck http://store.hackaday.com/products/arduino-compatible-fpga-shield
2016-04-13T16:30:03 < dongs> that DC jack
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2016-04-13T16:36:43 < Peter_M> <Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF7xIHKx6As  - i dont get it, the guy made something purposefully bad
2016-04-13T16:36:51 < Peter_M> that cost money and time and effort
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2016-04-13T16:39:07 < dongs> fantastically speedy lunix workstation lol
2016-04-13T16:40:03 < Laurenceb> better than gaymer
2016-04-13T16:42:17 < dongs> haha 400W
2016-04-13T16:42:18 < dongs> at idle
2016-04-13T16:42:31 < dongs> what a complete shitheap
2016-04-13T16:43:20 < zyp> what, does it run on vacuum tubes?
2016-04-13T16:43:30 < Peter_M> zyp PPC, cloese enough
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2016-04-13T16:43:50 < zyp> ah, right
2016-04-13T16:44:25 < dongs> http://icebox.doogielabs.com/fookushima.php
2016-04-13T16:44:59 < dongs> 500W actually according to UPS
2016-04-13T16:45:28 < dongs> electricity in mom's basementmust be free
2016-04-13T16:46:25 < PeterM> i mean, i dont get it, why put all that effort and money into building something fuckign rubbish
2016-04-13T16:46:41 < dongs> because lunix
2016-04-13T16:46:44 < PeterM> that you know is going to be rubbish from the beginning
2016-04-13T16:46:53 < dongs> i mean fuck, he can get a 2TB nas thing for like $100
2016-04-13T16:47:05 < dongs> and it will use like 10W
2016-04-13T16:47:09 < PeterM> you can stick moondicks on whatever hardware you want, it doenst need to be a shitty PPC heater
2016-04-13T16:49:36 < dongs> *Note: If you are using Chrome, you will be asked to install a browser add-on to help gather your responses. If the study does not automatically continue after the add-on is installed, try refreshing your browser or re-initiating the study from the URL in the email you received.
2016-04-13T16:49:42 < dongs> ti wants to isntall some spyware in my chrome
2016-04-13T16:50:00 < PeterM> dafuq
2016-04-13T16:50:38 < PeterM> 100% garanteed way to not get feedback
2016-04-13T16:51:03 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Led-Laser-driver/
2016-04-13T16:54:52 < PeterM> is it a LED driver or laser diode driver, i guess we will never know
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2016-04-13T17:36:52 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/13/usbc_adds_authentication_protocol/
2016-04-13T17:36:53 < dongs> great
2016-04-13T17:53:11 < PeterM> fucking dumb
2016-04-13T17:53:26 < PeterM> because people can't design non-dumb devices
2016-04-13T17:54:57 < PeterM> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/05/google_engineer_ids_dodgy_usbs/ this dumbass fuckign started it
2016-04-13T17:55:06 < PeterM> Some converters do not feature this pull-up. So, for example, a Type-C gadget could attempt to draw 3A from a USB 2.0 host or charger via one of these dodgy cables, and cause damage to the wiring and electronics.
2016-04-13T17:55:13 < PeterM> fuck off mate
2016-04-13T17:55:22 < PeterM> make your fuckign circuitrry correctly
2016-04-13T17:55:28 < PeterM> impliment OCP
2016-04-13T17:59:52 < dongs> lul someone vandalized ~10 cars in hokkaido on april 1st
2016-04-13T17:59:58 < dongs> broke all windows and slashed tires
2016-04-13T18:00:10 < dongs> just going through recorded news archive
2016-04-13T18:00:36 < dongs> PeterM: yeah i read that article too when it was posted first
2016-04-13T18:00:39 < dongs> sounded like bullshit
2016-04-13T18:01:08 < dongs> nobody is gonna 'draw' 3A from a shitty charger, your shitty thing will drop voltage to nearly zero because of crap design and it'll just stop charging from it problem solved
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2016-04-13T18:13:45 < PeterM> ITS JUST A PRANK BRO
2016-04-13T18:13:55 < PeterM> re vandalizm
2016-04-13T18:16:01 < dongs> ya
2016-04-13T18:16:07 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/yCQAP59.png
2016-04-13T18:16:09 < dongs> THANKS, ORCAD
2016-04-13T18:17:08 < dongs> im making a pcie card with STM32 on it for system management purposes
2016-04-13T18:17:14 < dongs> so it can reset stuff on the board
2016-04-13T18:17:40 < PeterM> dafuq
2016-04-13T18:18:01 < dongs> also: fucking cuckcad draws teardrops as polys
2016-04-13T18:18:31 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/HMip2Ew.png
2016-04-13T18:18:49 < gxti> curves? the technology just isn't there yet
2016-04-13T18:19:29 < dongs> man i really hope this shit is just because of some conversion shit
2016-04-13T18:19:37 < dongs> and original board doesnt really have 90% of nets named
2016-04-13T18:19:41 < dongs> R2COM is fucking fired
2016-04-13T18:19:54 < dongs> er named->unnamed
2016-04-13T18:20:06 < PeterM> is that why this shit is like this http://i.imgur.com/ppzwzZR.png
2016-04-13T18:20:08 < dongs> i only see GND/12V/couple VCCs named
2016-04-13T18:20:18 < dongs> yes, those are teardrops
2016-04-13T18:20:31 < dongs> made by many lines
2016-04-13T18:20:36 < PeterM> sothere is teardrops inside the pin/pad?
2016-04-13T18:20:45 < dongs> yea
2016-04-13T18:20:47 < PeterM> the fuck
2016-04-13T18:20:58 < dongs> they're related to that triangle outside the pad
2016-04-13T18:21:02 < dongs> its like <>
2016-04-13T18:21:15 < PeterM> but...but... but....
2016-04-13T18:21:19 < dongs> ocrad
2016-04-13T18:21:20 < dongs> very pro
2016-04-13T18:21:20 < PeterM> WHY
2016-04-13T18:21:24 < dongs> because pro
2016-04-13T18:23:14 < gxti> meanwhile REAL PRO SOFT like altidicks does this http://i.imgur.com/TyFyIRy.png
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2016-04-13T18:27:20 < PeterM> fuck yeah, only goes into the pad jsut enough
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2016-04-13T18:35:18 < qyx> you should eagle that thing http://i.imgur.com/YkjXsWc.png
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2016-04-13T18:42:16 < PeterM> qyx, you could always try the geda way http://i.imgur.com/L9nrrLE.png
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2016-04-13T18:47:11 < englishman> where is crt
2016-04-13T18:47:20 < englishman> i dont have the heart to tell him keil is free
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2016-04-13T18:56:43 < ReadError> ohh sheeeeeiiiit
2016-04-13T18:56:47 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVB_5lA-0hc
2016-04-13T18:56:56 < ReadError> retweeting from Sync_
2016-04-13T18:59:09 < ReadError> 39,000 cph
2016-04-13T18:59:35 < Laurenceb> insane
2016-04-13T18:59:48 < Laurenceb> I'd like to know how the reel feeders to the head work
2016-04-13T19:00:00 < Laurenceb> seems like a really nice design - make it all rotary
2016-04-13T19:00:03 < ReadError> pulls back tape and advances
2016-04-13T19:00:16 < Laurenceb> yeah but the tape has to get to the head
2016-04-13T19:00:25 < PeterM> i'd like to know how it does with higher mass parts
2016-04-13T19:00:27 < ReadError> the head moves to the tape
2016-04-13T19:00:33 < Laurenceb> or does it only place 20 at a time
2016-04-13T19:00:36 < ReadError> they show the vid
2016-04-13T19:00:37 < Laurenceb> oh i see
2016-04-13T19:00:41 < ReadError> cutaway
2016-04-13T19:00:41 < Laurenceb> boring lol
2016-04-13T19:00:55 < aandrew> the place I get my boards assembled uses older versions of that
2016-04-13T19:00:58  * PeterM imagines inductors smackign against the plexiglass windows
2016-04-13T19:00:58 < aandrew> they're amazing
2016-04-13T19:01:16 < Laurenceb> temporary part storage on the head would be interesting
2016-04-13T19:01:19 < ReadError> PeterM ya obv you cant place them as fastr
2016-04-13T19:01:26 < Laurenceb> i.e. >> 20 parts
2016-04-13T19:01:26 < ReadError> but for lil resistors and caps and shit
2016-04-13T19:01:29 < ReadError> amazzzeee
2016-04-13T19:01:54 < PeterM> ReadError, nah jsut needs moar vaccuuuum
2016-04-13T19:02:21 < aandrew> well that's what it does with the multiple heads
2016-04-13T19:02:25 < PeterM> i bet you need a degree to setup on of those though
2016-04-13T19:02:38 < aandrew> grabs a bunch of stuff that's spatially close on the target baord then moves to the board and palces them
2016-04-13T19:02:41 < aandrew> instant speed bost
2016-04-13T19:03:09 < ReadError> Laurenceb what about moving the feeders
2016-04-13T19:03:18 < ReadError> like have them on a conveyor system
2016-04-13T19:03:22 < PeterM> i wonder how much of a speed boost you could get by having both the head move and the board move
2016-04-13T19:03:25 < ReadError> so the part its placing is always right behind it
2016-04-13T19:03:30 < Laurenceb> yeah thats what I though it did lol
2016-04-13T19:03:34 < ReadError> oh
2016-04-13T19:03:35 < Laurenceb> or something like that
2016-04-13T19:04:06 < ReadError> nah the feeders are fixed
2016-04-13T19:04:08 < Laurenceb> then you could have a rotary series of like 20 heads and the main head would never have to do anything other than move over the boards
2016-04-13T19:04:25 < ReadError> but a rapid to the feeder back to the board isnt a huge amount of time
2016-04-13T19:04:37 < ReadError> when you consider its throwing down 20 components
2016-04-13T19:04:43 < Laurenceb> but the suckers have to then pick up all their parts?
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2016-04-13T19:04:53 < ReadError> yea but 20 a grab
2016-04-13T19:04:56 < aandrew> ReadError: yes but now you're talking about trying to move multiple feeders full of components
2016-04-13T19:04:56 < Laurenceb> so it move than halves the overall speed
2016-04-13T19:05:04 < aandrew> you want to keep the moving bits as small and light as possible
2016-04-13T19:05:14 < ReadError> aandrew yea thats overly complex, agreed
2016-04-13T19:05:20 < ReadError> im not that much of a speed queen
2016-04-13T19:05:27 < ReadError> going to the feeder isnt a big deal
2016-04-13T19:05:29 < PeterM> HOYL FUCK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVHuR0brpuI&nohtml5=False
2016-04-13T19:05:30 < aandrew> just a drag queen? :-)
2016-04-13T19:05:58 < ReadError> hoe my god PeterM
2016-04-13T19:06:02 < ReadError> thats dope as fuck
2016-04-13T19:06:11 < Laurenceb> oh wow
2016-04-13T19:06:47 < zyp> nice
2016-04-13T19:06:48 < aandrew> PeterM: holy crap that is awesome
2016-04-13T19:07:05 < PeterM> jesus fuck
2016-04-13T19:07:52 < PeterM> at some point there you jsut have to hope your system is good enough - like you can't tell if tis picked the component until it  has gone through the camera because there sint enough time for the vaccuum pressure to settle
2016-04-13T19:08:22 < PeterM> i guess when you load 1.5mil components at a time you can toss a few out
2016-04-13T19:08:31 < ReadError> i wonder how they deal with dwell
2016-04-13T19:08:45 < ReadError> like i imagine they have to use positive pressure to remove the component fast enough
2016-04-13T19:08:52 < ReadError> during placement
2016-04-13T19:09:26 < PeterM> yeah, certainly, gravity wouldnt be enough
2016-04-13T19:10:41 < PeterM> the only thing that weirds me out is the name, siplacer to me seems liek it would be sip-lacer, not sea-placer
2016-04-13T19:11:01 < ReadError> they are, german?
2016-04-13T19:11:10 < ReadError> some EU place
2016-04-13T19:11:13 < PeterM> no idea
2016-04-13T19:13:29 < ReadError> oh hm
2016-04-13T19:13:34 < ReadError> they have an office like 1hr from me
2016-04-13T19:14:19 < PeterM> go for a drive o nthe weekend, ask for a demo
2016-04-13T19:14:31 < PeterM> be like "yeah , i jsut won the lotto m8"
2016-04-13T19:14:36 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-13T19:14:54 < PeterM> "i wanna clone some rc quads and shit ey mate:
2016-04-13T19:14:57 < ReadError> "can i like, trial this thing for a few months and decide if its worth the money?"
2016-04-13T19:15:15 < PeterM> accidentally becomes next foxconn
2016-04-13T19:17:40 < aandrew> siplace was siemens
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2016-04-13T19:31:37 < englishman> lol 1.5 million 01005 components in a hopper
2016-04-13T19:31:40 < englishman> just dump the shit in
2016-04-13T19:31:44 < englishman> crazy
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2016-04-13T19:40:10 < Laurenceb> https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/2016/04/12/woods-holes-scientists-discover-swarming-mass-crabs/Pmlj0mHgYCBA7VJIiwmCVJ/story.html
2016-04-13T19:40:32 < Laurenceb> http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/02/propane-renewable-sources-ecoli-genes
2016-04-13T19:40:50 < Laurenceb> http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/environment/153156/binh-thuan-temporarily-bans-exploitation-of-mollusc--bivalve-at-sea.html
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2016-04-13T19:59:14 < Laurenceb> wtf latest gcc is broken
2016-04-13T19:59:18 < Laurenceb> undefined reference to `_sbrk'
2016-04-13T19:59:18 < Laurenceb>  woot
2016-04-13T20:00:06 < lorenzo> "The TMP107-Q1 uses a TI proprietary, one-wire, UART-compatible, bidirectional, communication protocol called SMAART wire"
2016-04-13T20:00:18 < lorenzo> yeah we needed another protocol like this
2016-04-13T20:00:23 < Laurenceb> sbrkr.c:(.text._sbrk_r+0xc): undefined reference to `_sbrk'
2016-04-13T20:00:36 < Laurenceb> ../arm-none-eabi/lib/armv7-m/libc.a(lib_a-sbrkr.o): In function `_sbrk_r':
2016-04-13T20:00:43 < Laurenceb> broken
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2016-04-13T20:17:54 < mitrax> Laurenceb: that's to be expected with newlib there are a few functions you should implement yourself
2016-04-13T20:26:43 < mitrax> Laurenceb: or at least the version i use always behaved like that :) the version you had provided a default implementation?
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2016-04-13T20:58:04 < Laurenceb> mitrax: I added a -specs flag to the makefile
2016-04-13T20:58:09 < Laurenceb> dunno why it broke
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2016-04-13T22:23:32 < Steffanx> maybe someone can clarify something for me.
2016-04-13T22:23:48 < Steffanx> Let's say i have this function uint32_t x(const uint8_t * d) {  uint32_t r;  r  =  * d++;  r |= (* d++ << 8);  return r; }
2016-04-13T22:24:55 < Steffanx> with gcc 4.9 the generated assembly is just a load of the 2 bytes and OR's ( and the shift ) them
2016-04-13T22:25:05 < effractur> ++ is post operation
2016-04-13T22:25:13 < Steffanx> Then GCC 5.3 jumps in and thinks its smart
2016-04-13T22:25:30 < Steffanx> and does a half word load (ldrh)
2016-04-13T22:25:57 < Steffanx> Is there a good reason ( and legal ) reason to do that?
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2016-04-13T22:26:55 < Thorn> isn't it just a 2 byte copy (on a little endian arch)
2016-04-13T22:27:15 < effractur> y
2016-04-13T22:27:41 < Steffanx> Yes, but .. an instruction like ldrh requires a 2 byte alignment
2016-04-13T22:28:30 < Steffanx> which is not always the case because the of the parameter being uint8
2016-04-13T22:29:26 < Thorn> so uint8_t arr[4]; x(&arr[1]); would fail?
2016-04-13T22:29:32 < Steffanx> yes.
2016-04-13T22:30:04 < effractur> and with volatile?
2016-04-13T22:30:47 < Steffanx> The real question is if it should really turn that function into a single statement when it cannot know if hte input is aligned or not.
2016-04-13T22:30:59 < Steffanx> unless the C standard specifies that somewhere.
2016-04-13T22:31:20 < Thorn> is x static? maybe the compiler can see all usages and all arg values are aligned
2016-04-13T22:32:21 < Steffanx> Nah no it cannot. because i asked this because some code actually "crashed" because of this.
2016-04-13T22:33:32 < Steffanx> ( this all is compiled with O2 btw )
2016-04-13T22:35:05 < Steffanx> Just lovely when something works with 4.9 and totally fails when you just move to 5.3.
2016-04-13T22:38:58 < Thorn> I guess it deserves a bug report then
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2016-04-13T22:44:25 < karlp> 5.3 is causing all sorts of problems.
2016-04-13T22:46:00 < karlp> ohsix: cortex-m allows unaligned access transparently, you just lose performance :)
2016-04-13T22:48:15 < karlp> lorenzo: if it's uart comatible, isn't just an application protocol on topof half duplex? that's not like onewire or the wsxxx led stuff or anything
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2016-04-13T22:49:03 < lorenzo> karlp: I've sampled one out of curiosity
2016-04-13T22:49:04 < lorenzo> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tmp107.pdf
2016-04-13T22:49:36 < lorenzo> karlp: bottom schematic shows half duplex uart yes
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2016-04-13T22:51:48 < karlp> wow, that bulk pick and placer thing is really neat
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2016-04-13T22:56:36 < kakimir> lpc15xx can receive a character from uart in deep sleep
2016-04-13T22:56:42 < kakimir> at 9600baud
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2016-04-13T22:57:32 < kakimir> requires rtc oscillator running
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2016-04-13T23:12:22 < kakimir> there seems to be no enable switch for it
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2016-04-14T00:26:03 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/buKNzPpZ whay is wrong when it prints 000 all the time?
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2016-04-14T00:34:08 < ReadError> wtf is the point of that
2016-04-14T00:34:08 < kakimir> logical error
2016-04-14T00:34:21 < kakimir> there is nothing to divide but 0
2016-04-14T00:35:39 < kakimir> ReadError: I test flow control
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2016-04-14T00:38:08 < kakimir> flow control works with one flag added to config func
2016-04-14T00:38:14 < kakimir> sweet
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2016-04-14T00:38:30 < kakimir> time to movie
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2016-04-14T01:40:27 < mitrax> rise and shine
2016-04-14T01:41:02 < kakimir> my jehwes
2016-04-14T01:41:17 < mitrax> have they slept well?
2016-04-14T01:50:43 < kakimir> how many shekels?
2016-04-14T01:54:49 < kakimir> I have none
2016-04-14T01:55:33 < kakimir> in my poor experiment
2016-04-14T01:58:57 < mitrax> corkymir bet he could bite his own ear
2016-04-14T01:59:15 < mitrax> and that's not working too well so far
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2016-04-14T02:12:58 < kakimir> I try to understand money
2016-04-14T02:17:42 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/K3Kmfzfs/IMG_1412.JPG
2016-04-14T02:19:17 < kakimir> nice
2016-04-14T02:20:16 < ReadMobl> PeterM:
2016-04-14T02:21:18 < ReadMobl> Mounts are ugly but temporary
2016-04-14T02:22:49 < ReadMobl> Until I figure out gear ratio
2016-04-14T02:24:00 < kakimir> 2motors?
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2016-04-14T02:32:26 < ReadMobl> Ya
2016-04-14T03:02:02 < dongs> R2COM: i wish, but they dont let me have it in jp paypal
2016-04-14T03:02:28 < dongs> i applied for one in my usa scampal but it arrived i dunno where and i never got it
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2016-04-14T03:11:38 < Laurenceb_> lol Falcon 9 is on fire
2016-04-14T03:12:30 < Laurenceb_> just reading NSF thread, they have zoom camera set up
2016-04-14T03:12:43 < Laurenceb_> Elno Musk dick waving contest
2016-04-14T03:12:55 < Laurenceb_> apparently the bottom just caught fire
2016-04-14T03:13:30 < Laurenceb_> out now
2016-04-14T03:13:37 < Laurenceb_> they got the extinguishers on it
2016-04-14T03:14:07  * Laurenceb_ zzz
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2016-04-14T03:17:34 < karlp> sat down to play with the icestick, ended up fixing openocd for samd10.
2016-04-14T03:17:38 < karlp> how does my brane work.
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2016-04-14T03:19:57 < dongs> oh
2016-04-14T03:20:02 < dongs> that board from few daysd ago was intel galilo
2016-04-14T03:20:04 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/19/redmond_expels_galileo/
2016-04-14T03:20:11 < dongs> the weather station thing
2016-04-14T03:20:14 < dongs> wiht tarduino headers
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2016-04-14T03:25:37 < dongs> z170 mini-itx with 4x pcie M.2 go
2016-04-14T03:25:45 < dongs> oh and DP
2016-04-14T03:27:47 < dongs> pal looking
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2016-04-14T03:34:09 < dongs> http://static.evga.com/Products/App_Themes/Images/ProductOverview/111-SS-E172_v2.jpg
2016-04-14T03:34:26 < dongs> Did you know? High layer count enhances stability both for heavy loads as well as high overclocking.
2016-04-14T03:34:37 < dongs> Thats right, you've heard it here first.
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2016-04-14T03:44:09 < dongs> no new feelances
2016-04-14T03:44:58 < dongs> ya
2016-04-14T03:45:41 < dongs> it took 30 sec
2016-04-14T03:45:46 < dongs> and im goin back to dicknplacing
2016-04-14T03:51:08 < ReadMobl> dongs:
2016-04-14T03:51:17 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wXtbF4NY/IMG_1414.JPG
2016-04-14T03:51:31 < dongs> haha
2016-04-14T03:51:46 < dongs> whats this in radioshack or something
2016-04-14T03:56:19 < ReadMobl> Microcenter
2016-04-14T03:56:36 < ReadMobl> Got a 5$ pi zero lol
2016-04-14T04:07:38 < dongs> http://bousai.city-minato.jp/index/detail?disaster-id=496
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2016-04-14T04:46:19 < scrts_> I wonder if there's an alternative to National Instruments rack PCs?
2016-04-14T04:46:24 < scrts_> some kind of these systems?
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2016-04-14T04:47:39 < dongs> wat
2016-04-14T04:54:49 < dongs> today i get to find out how 3 years old hasl boards solder
2016-04-14T04:54:58 < dongs> after being mostly in open air
2016-04-14T04:55:25 < englishman> wtf is 150% gold
2016-04-14T04:55:47 < dongs> is that in EVGA junk
2016-04-14T04:56:00 < englishman> so much chenglish
2016-04-14T04:56:03 < englishman> yes
2016-04-14T04:56:15 < dongs> 150% more of zero
2016-04-14T04:56:16 < dongs> still zero
2016-04-14T04:56:30 < englishman> onboard powerbutton is cool
2016-04-14T04:56:34 < englishman> for my mdf case
2016-04-14T04:56:55 < dongs> yaz but so is just shorting the shit wiht tweezers
2016-04-14T04:57:06 < englishman> lame
2016-04-14T04:57:12 < englishman> i got 30c china pigtails with buttons on
2016-04-14T04:57:19 < dongs> nice
2016-04-14T04:59:20 < karlp> fucking nice. atmel asf download is 1.6gig expanded, includes allll files for avr32, megaavr, sam and xmega all together
2016-04-14T04:59:30 < dongs> yea
2016-04-14T04:59:43 < karlp> trying to workout why my minimal samd10 doesn't blink ze leds
2016-04-14T05:00:46 < dongs> does it have DRM in teh vector table like NXP
2016-04-14T05:01:08  * karlp shrugs
2016-04-14T05:01:11 < karlp> quite likely?
2016-04-14T05:03:01 < emeb_mac> I tried to get atmel SAMD stuff working w/ minimal GCC/make/gdb/oocd a while ago. gave up.
2016-04-14T05:03:15 < karlp> Iðve hacked oocd to connect at least,
2016-04-14T05:03:20 < karlp> someone else got the flash drivers working
2016-04-14T05:03:32 < emeb_mac> tracking down all the funky peripheral regs in their dox was a huge PITA
2016-04-14T05:03:42 < karlp> so I dumped the factory demo, and when my own code fails badly, I can reflash the bianry I dumped and that still works
2016-04-14T05:03:58 < karlp> it's not working to break on reset handler though
2016-04-14T05:04:13 < dongs> SAMD10 is wat
2016-04-14T05:04:15 < dongs> just cortex m0 shit?
2016-04-14T05:04:16 < karlp> but that's possibly my libopencm3 stubs having errors
2016-04-14T05:04:18 < dongs> or that A5 thing
2016-04-14T05:04:26 < karlp> yeah, just m0+shit
2016-04-14T05:04:26 < emeb_mac> m0
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2016-04-14T05:04:59 < karlp> was in a pile of dev boards I got a while ago, was going to help oocd and locm3 with them.
2016-04-14T05:05:34 < dongs> psh
2016-04-14T05:05:37 < dongs> keep the sores closed
2016-04-14T05:06:04 < dongs> atmel doesnt need any help failing
2016-04-14T05:10:38 < dongs> hm the mask definitely yellowed after reflow
2016-04-14T05:10:45 < dongs> on the boards taht were more exposed to air (= top of stack)
2016-04-14T05:11:49 < dongs> psh, got one tombstoner
2016-04-14T05:18:01 < englishman> .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON
2016-04-14T05:18:01 < englishman> GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE
2016-04-14T05:18:01 < englishman> DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUINE DEVICE FOUND! .NON GENUI
2016-04-14T05:18:05 < englishman> lol fucking FTDI
2016-04-14T05:18:08 < englishman> trashing board immediately
2016-04-14T05:18:22 < englishman> NOT
2016-04-14T05:18:26 < englishman> more like, reinstalling drivers
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2016-04-14T05:19:30 < dongs> wtf same part tombstoned on another board
2016-04-14T05:21:58 < englishman> nice old drivers still available by typing in filename
2016-04-14T05:22:25 < dongs> nongenuine doesnt trash tbe board anymore?
2016-04-14T05:22:28 < dongs> just spews that string?
2016-04-14T05:22:31 < englishman> yea
2016-04-14T05:23:19 < englishman> read on some blog this is latest version that works http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM%20v2.08.24%20WHQL%20Certified.zip
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2016-04-14T05:25:02 < dongs> if I ever get time ill finish that FTDI usb emulation that i had somewehre in m4osd
2016-04-14T05:25:07 < dongs> just to stick it to them
2016-04-14T05:25:30 < dongs> have STM32 CDC enumerate as ftdi tarsh and use their drivers
2016-04-14T05:26:15 < englishman> maybe it is bricked
2016-04-14T05:26:18 < englishman> im on old driver
2016-04-14T05:33:46 < englishman> aha, there are multiple drivers to uninstall
2016-04-14T05:36:06 < dongs> some dude from 1 infinity loop ordered jewpad adapters
2016-04-14T05:36:11 < englishman> yay working
2016-04-14T05:36:15 < dongs> am i gonna get [ ] DMCA [ ] cloned
2016-04-14T05:36:37 < englishman> both
2016-04-14T05:36:52 < englishman> iMac Mini
2016-04-14T05:36:54 < dongs> thats wat i thought
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2016-04-14T05:37:32 < englishman> Add A Second Screen To Your iPad Pro For Only $499
2016-04-14T05:39:59 < englishman> no idea
2016-04-14T05:40:04 < englishman> if not, maybe ipad pro 2
2016-04-14T05:40:30 < dongs> some jap figured out how to run my shit with rageberry
2016-04-14T05:40:44 < dongs> apparently just needs a edid override and it works wiht any hdmi>dp cables
2016-04-14T05:40:45 < englishman> it has displaydongs?
2016-04-14T05:40:54 < dongs> no, but like $25 hdmi>dp shits on ebay
2016-04-14T05:40:58 < englishman> neato
2016-04-14T05:41:19 < dongs> had no idea rageberry could do > 165mhz pixclk on hdmi
2016-04-14T05:52:38 < emeb_mac> saw some hack where a dude was generating a DVB-T signal by PWMing a GPIO pin on the RPi
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2016-04-14T05:54:31 < emeb_mac> R2COM: there is no simulink in Octave.
2016-04-14T05:54:47 < emeb_mac> there are some minor syntax differences that are fairly easy to work around.
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2016-04-14T05:55:07 < emeb_mac> Octave tends to execute more slowly than equivalent Matlab on the same machine.
2016-04-14T05:55:31 < dongs> benefits of opensauce
2016-04-14T05:57:40 < emeb_mac> upside is that it's a helluva a lot cheaper.
2016-04-14T05:58:24 < emeb_mac> I don't use Octave on anything that requires compatibility with other folks.
2016-04-14T05:58:49 < emeb_mac> too much hassle to be sure that it's going to work for them.
2016-04-14T05:58:50 < dongs> then again, with the "if your time is worthless" part ):
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2016-04-14T05:59:36 < emeb_mac> dongs: well, if you're working alone, or with others who use Octave it's viable. The speed differences aren't a big deal.
2016-04-14T05:59:53 < emeb_mac> I know pros who use it.
2016-04-14T06:00:30 < emeb_mac> R2COM: yes - for quick tests and analysis it would be perfect. I use it for that on machines where I don't have a Matlab license.
2016-04-14T06:01:51 < emeb_mac> R2COM: and the filter design functions in the signal toolkit are handy if you already know Matlab
2016-04-14T06:02:45 < emeb_mac> R2COM: just "signal" - has remez(), firpm(), etc.
2016-04-14T06:03:02 < emeb_mac> plus all the analog / IIR stuff
2016-04-14T06:03:10 < emeb_mac> bessel, butter, cheby, etc.
2016-04-14T06:05:12 < emeb_mac> hmm... dunno if fdatool works in Octave. Never tried.
2016-04-14T06:06:03 < emeb_mac> doesn't seem to be present in the version I've got on this machine.
2016-04-14T06:06:59 < emeb_mac> R2COM: if you really want a mindbender, try python / numpy / matplotlib
2016-04-14T06:07:35 < emeb_mac> matlab-alike in Python. syntax is way different of course, but it has a lot of the same features.
2016-04-14T06:08:01 < dongs> i heard write-once-read-never code is the hipster  choice in 2016
2016-04-14T06:08:59 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-14T06:09:04 < dongs> cuz fuck using somethign that works
2016-04-14T06:09:13 < dongs> when you can use some retarded interpreted scripting language
2016-04-14T06:09:30 < emeb_mac> python is... different
2016-04-14T06:12:17 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-14T06:12:31 < emeb_mac> no room for comments on a Fortran card deck
2016-04-14T06:14:22 < dongs> typical gnu code
2016-04-14T06:16:04 < ReadMobl> ohsix: SDP didnt have the shit to do belts in stock
2016-04-14T06:16:18 < ReadMobl> I got half links too and the motor can go up/down 9mm
2016-04-14T06:16:31 < ReadMobl> so I should be able to tension it pretty decent
2016-04-14T06:17:38 < dongs> NPI Materials Program Manager < waht the fuck is this job title
2016-04-14T06:17:58 < PeterM> R2COM, you do realize the what the people are like that do join and contribute? almost exactly as you described
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2016-04-14T06:22:56 < dongs> generally opensores turds arent paid to write commetns
2016-04-14T06:35:05 < dongs> http://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/32511/1460570232070297.png
2016-04-14T06:45:53 < dongs> a checksum that has to be there or it wont boot
2016-04-14T06:46:13 < dongs> over the first 10? or something vectors
2016-04-14T06:46:29 < dongs> i duno how it calculates it
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2016-04-14T06:46:35 < dongs> it doesnt boot if it d oesn match
2016-04-14T06:47:00 < dongs> https://www.lpcware.com/content/faq/lpcxpresso/image-checksums
2016-04-14T06:48:34 < englishman> dongs: what kickstarter is that ragepost in reference to
2016-04-14T06:52:53 < dongs> englishman: shittiest cooler
2016-04-14T06:53:00 < englishman> haha
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2016-04-14T06:54:08 < dongs> “I know the internet is an ugly place but Kickstarter is usually somewhere people spend discretionary income,” she said. “I got doxxed by a backer and my phone has been blowing up. I do think some of the reaction is beyond the pale. We've been physically threatened and abused and yesterday some backer threatened Ryan's family.”
2016-04-14T06:54:15 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw8o-I7ytDs&feature=youtu.be&t=12m31s
2016-04-14T06:54:36 < ReadMobl> ohsix: the coocox ? lol
2016-04-14T06:56:56 < ReadMobl> they actually had a lot of shit
2016-04-14T06:57:01 < dongs> “We thought Amazon would be a tremendous opportunity for us,” Towers said. “They flooded Amazon with fake 1 star reviews and have made it impossible to sell a lot of coolers.”
2016-04-14T06:57:06 < ReadMobl> grabbed a pi zero for 5$
2016-04-14T06:57:10 < ReadMobl> they had them at the checkout thing
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2016-04-14T07:00:43 < englishman> why the rage today? theyve been failing for a while
2016-04-14T07:00:56 < dongs> they posted a new update
2016-04-14T07:01:00 < dongs> asking people to give htem $97
2016-04-14T07:01:02 < dongs> to get more made
2016-04-14T07:01:04 < englishman> lol really
2016-04-14T07:01:06 < dongs> cuz they're out of cash for a while
2016-04-14T07:01:07 < dongs> y
2016-04-14T07:01:20 < englishman> why didnt zano think of that
2016-04-14T07:01:23 < dongs> haha
2016-04-14T07:01:49 < englishman> update for backers only
2016-04-14T07:01:58 < dongs> ya its bene pasted in few places
2016-04-14T07:02:04 < dongs> http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/a-very-uncool-cooler
2016-04-14T07:02:06 < dongs> scroll down
2016-04-14T07:02:26 < dongs> fucking scribd
2016-04-14T07:02:31 < englishman> “The cooler market is exploding right now. Cooler sales have doubled in the last year,”
2016-04-14T07:02:32 < dongs> so cant link direct
2016-04-14T07:02:35 < dongs> HEH
2016-04-14T07:02:39 < englishman> why
2016-04-14T07:02:58 < dongs> https://www.scribd.com/doc/308414633/Backer-Update-4-12-Press#fullscreen
2016-04-14T07:02:59 < dongs> oh that wokrs
2016-04-14T07:03:05 < dongs> their "share" link only has facebook/twatter
2016-04-14T07:17:30 < dongs> http://hotproceed.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/IMG_2999-300x233.jpg
2016-04-14T07:18:05 < englishman> are tehre any raspberripi blade servers
2016-04-14T07:18:18 < dongs> y ou bet
2016-04-14T07:19:13 < dongs> https://keepingitclassless.net/assets/2013/07/raspberry-pi-supercomputer-1-620x465.jpg
2016-04-14T07:22:10 < aandrew> hm
2016-04-14T07:22:19 < aandrew> is there any magic with using DMA with I2S?
2016-04-14T07:22:36 < aandrew> I'm sure I've just fucked up the DMA setup because if I use PIO instead I'm getting data
2016-04-14T07:22:52 < dongs> i heard something about SPI DMA buffers needing to be alignede
2016-04-14T07:22:55 < dongs> but i duno
2016-04-14T07:22:58 < aandrew> well aligned is a given
2016-04-14T07:22:59 < dongs> emeb_mac: probably did I2S DMA
2016-04-14T07:23:02 < aandrew> it's ARM
2016-04-14T07:24:16 < aandrew> enable SPI2 clock, enable DMA1 audio, enable the GPIO clocks for the pins you're using for I2S...
2016-04-14T07:24:38 < dongs> "cool"
2016-04-14T07:25:23 < aandrew> how do you define which DMA stream you use, is there a given peripheral-to-stream mapping for a given channel?
2016-04-14T07:25:34 < dongs> yes
2016-04-14T07:25:40 < dongs> its in datasheet or in RM
2016-04-14T07:25:43 < aandrew> ok
2016-04-14T07:25:44 < dongs> you can only put specific stuff into a stream
2016-04-14T07:25:46 < aandrew> maybe that's wrong
2016-04-14T07:25:52 < aandrew> yeah I'm using cube
2016-04-14T07:26:14 < aandrew> __HAL_LINKDMA() DEINIT, INIT, then set up the NVIC for DMA complete
2016-04-14T07:26:17 < aandrew> STM32F417
2016-04-14T07:27:49 < aandrew> I see it now I think
2016-04-14T07:27:54 < aandrew> page 307 of the RM
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2016-04-14T07:28:09 < aandrew> SPI2_RX is DMA1 channel 0 stream 4
2016-04-14T07:28:16 < aandrew> er stream 3, SPI2_TX is stream 4
2016-04-14T07:28:30 < dongs> You'll get this offer:
2016-04-14T07:28:30 < dongs> Buy 1, get 1 at 10% off
2016-04-14T07:28:32 < dongs> nice
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2016-04-14T07:31:08 < englishman> aandrew: doesnt hal do all that shit for you
2016-04-14T07:31:17 < englishman> dont forget to check the boxes you need to check in dma/int
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2016-04-14T07:32:02 < englishman> this ohsix> http://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Raspberry_Pi_Zero_Cluster.jpg
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2016-04-14T07:32:12 < englishman> looks like OVH's new VPSes
2016-04-14T07:32:28 < englishman> 100 instances/pi
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2016-04-14T07:34:06 < aandrew> englishman: well you specify the stream etc
2016-04-14T07:34:09 < aandrew> and Ig uess I'm fucking that up
2016-04-14T07:34:24 < englishman> dont forget interrupt boxes
2016-04-14T07:34:44 < englishman> whats the symptom
2016-04-14T07:36:04 < englishman> cube is awesome
2016-04-14T07:37:58 < aandrew> I'm using I2S2
2016-04-14T07:38:59 < aandrew> oh no no
2016-04-14T07:39:09 < aandrew> I2S2 is different from SPI2
2016-04-14T07:39:11 < aandrew> at least from DMA
2016-04-14T07:39:30 < aandrew> DMA1 ch3 stream 3 and 4
2016-04-14T07:39:48 < aandrew> er no ch3 stream 3 and ch2 stream4
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2016-04-14T07:41:21 < aandrew> why does the the RM list these as "examples" ?
2016-04-14T07:41:29 < aandrew> it doesn't seem like an example, it seems its' the rule
2016-04-14T07:57:13 < emeb_mac> did someone say I2S?
2016-04-14T07:58:50 < dongs> I2DONGS
2016-04-14T08:09:38 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/l0SJM.jpg
2016-04-14T08:09:40 < dongs> japan
2016-04-14T08:14:11 < PeterM> seems pretty decent value for money
2016-04-14T08:15:50 < englishman> so old, jpy was still worth something
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2016-04-14T08:22:41 < Thorn> is $349 a good price http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keithley-2015-THD-Multimeter-Self-Test-Passed-/182001421463
2016-04-14T08:28:16 < Thorn> http://www.used-line.com/list-meters/multimeters/keithley-2015 $600...2k and up
2016-04-14T08:29:03 < Thorn> that seller offers free shipping. shipping from US is normally like $200-$500+ for me
2016-04-14T08:32:07 < PeterM> $350 us isnt amazing, expecially if the vfd is fucked
2016-04-14T08:32:33 < Thorn> no pictures with display on
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2016-04-14T08:48:48 < ReadError> ohsix you want like a getting started book?
2016-04-14T08:49:28 < ReadError> or like, architecture
2016-04-14T08:49:56 < ReadError> theres a decent pdf
2016-04-14T08:50:00 < ReadError> written by a professor
2016-04-14T08:50:12 < ReadError> www.cs.indiana.edu/~geobrown/book.pdf
2016-04-14T08:50:16 < ReadError> ah
2016-04-14T08:50:36 < ReadError> oh ya read them
2016-04-14T08:50:38 < ReadError> meh
2016-04-14T08:50:41 < ReadError> not too great
2016-04-14T08:50:44 < ReadError> some interesting bits
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2016-04-14T08:51:13 < ReadError> got them through safari books tho
2016-04-14T08:53:28 < dongs> lol why is there a stm32 book
2016-04-14T08:53:50 < ReadError> its used for a course
2016-04-14T08:53:59 < ReadError> probably a microcontroller course
2016-04-14T08:54:00 < jpa-> so that you can smack people on the head with it
2016-04-14T08:54:37 < ReadError> heard clive1 is writing a book
2016-04-14T08:55:13 < dongs> blind leading the blind community
2016-04-14T08:55:14 < Thorn> "i2c is fucked but the timers are great, for more info read the RM and errata" <-- a little short for a book I admit
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2016-04-14T09:01:26 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTSXm60LghA
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2016-04-14T09:32:29 < ReadError> chat killer
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2016-04-14T09:50:09 < dongs> BLM
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2016-04-14T09:57:22 < ReadError> ohsix
2016-04-14T09:57:28 < ReadError> did you see the Palin vs. Trump
2016-04-14T09:57:30 < ReadError> thing
2016-04-14T09:57:31 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-14T09:57:33 < ReadError> err
2016-04-14T09:57:37 < ReadError> Bill Nye
2016-04-14T09:57:38 < ReadError> wtf
2016-04-14T09:58:12 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-14T09:58:22 < ReadError> ohsix it hasnt happened yet
2016-04-14T09:58:27 < ReadError> i dont think
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2016-04-14T10:07:45 < ReadError> found your new PnP dongs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVB_5lA-0hc
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2016-04-14T10:40:23 < ReadError> is there a terminal/console/sshclient for windows that doesnt suck
2016-04-14T10:40:34 < ReadError> dont say putty
2016-04-14T10:40:51 < ReadError> used securecrt way back
2016-04-14T10:40:52 < dongs> putty tray
2016-04-14T10:41:11 < ReadError> hmm that does look better
2016-04-14T10:41:18 < ReadError> no tabs?
2016-04-14T10:41:41 < upgrdman> with nmos the gate the be > the drain right? you just need to be within Vgs-breakdown (typ +/- 20V) right?
2016-04-14T10:43:16 < ReadError> http://terminals.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Features%20and%20Screen%20shots
2016-04-14T10:45:17 < jpa-> upgrdman: sure
2016-04-14T10:45:37 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-14T10:45:47 < jpa-> upgrdman: with both N fets and P fets just the gate-source voltage matters (it is to be expected that Vgate > Vdrain when the FET is fully on)
2016-04-14T10:47:08 < upgrdman> thought so
2016-04-14T10:47:25 < ReadError> http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/features.html
2016-04-14T10:47:28 < upgrdman> but didnt want to nig rig some shit and get surprised
2016-04-14T10:47:29 < ReadError> look interesting
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2016-04-14T10:48:10 < dongs> you dumb fucking cunt who teh fuck needs tabs
2016-04-14T10:48:51 < dongs> if you want application windows INSIDE TABS then GET A FUCKIGN WINDOW MANAGER THAT PUTS SHIT IN TABS
2016-04-14T10:49:02 < upgrdman> be super pro. use an entire vm for each program you need to run.
2016-04-14T10:49:10 < dongs> yes, because vmware has tabs
2016-04-14T10:49:46 < ReadError> ehh someone that has multiple ssh sessions open
2016-04-14T10:49:56 < ReadError> and its easy to key through them
2016-04-14T10:49:59 < dongs> yea, its called open several windows you fucking kike
2016-04-14T10:50:03 < dongs> yes, its called alt-tab
2016-04-14T10:51:22 < ReadError> wish there was a better cmd replacement
2016-04-14T10:51:31 < ReadError> the default windows one is pretty garbage
2016-04-14T10:51:42 < dongs> i find it perfectly usable
2016-04-14T10:52:14 < upgrdman> ReadError, sometime i use git-bash for when i just want a better cmd.exe
2016-04-14T10:52:31 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2016-04-14T10:52:40 < dongs> when did "gnu" or "git" become "better" than microsoft products?
2016-04-14T10:52:46 < ReadError> upgrdman ya that one is pretty good
2016-04-14T10:52:58 < upgrdman> dongs, :)
2016-04-14T10:53:01 < ReadError> cmd.exe is and has always been horrible
2016-04-14T10:53:08 < dongs> what is a use case for "better cmd.exe"
2016-04-14T10:53:10 < dongs> i dont get it
2016-04-14T10:53:16 < dongs> i have yet to have a problem I can't solve by just using cmd
2016-04-14T10:53:24 < dongs> give me an example of something it doesnt do?
2016-04-14T10:53:37 < ReadError> how it handles resizing?
2016-04-14T10:53:42 < dongs> resizing of what?
2016-04-14T10:53:45 < ReadError> or lack there of
2016-04-14T10:54:04 < dongs> alt-space->properties-> layout -> window size
2016-04-14T10:54:07 < ReadError> the width stuff is retarded
2016-04-14T10:54:10 < dongs> no its not
2016-04-14T10:54:27 < dongs> next?>
2016-04-14T10:54:30 < ReadError> this mobaxterm actually has a pretty nice default terminal
2016-04-14T10:55:39 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/VgDFP8d.png
2016-04-14T10:55:44 < dongs> This Windows thing, I don't think you know how to compute it
2016-04-14T10:56:16 < dongs> poeple like you spread bullshit misinformation about "cmd.exe sucks!!! i couldn't resize it lol!!!"
2016-04-14T10:56:20 < dongs> while normal people just get shit done
2016-04-14T10:56:29 < dongs> fuckign garbage
2016-04-14T10:56:37 < dongs> another non-standard window manager inside windows
2016-04-14T10:56:49 < dongs> lets just allow every shitty fuckign app to manage their own windows
2016-04-14T10:56:52 < dongs> MDI is a thing you know??
2016-04-14T10:57:01 < dongs> its only been around since like 1990
2016-04-14T10:59:04 < ReadError> wonder when they are adding bash
2016-04-14T10:59:09 < ReadError> im installing win10 tomorrow
2016-04-14T10:59:14 < ReadError> so i gotta get my ducks in a row
2016-04-14T10:59:39 < dongs> you dont deserve the amaze that is windows 10
2016-04-14T10:59:45 < dongs> keep using whatever ancient garbage youre running now
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2016-04-14T11:14:05 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/n1bbEsQ.jpg
2016-04-14T11:14:06 < dongs> related
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2016-04-14T11:19:30 < ReadError> ya this shit is pretty legit
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2016-04-14T11:41:35 < mitrax> what's wrong with uncle bob?
2016-04-14T11:43:49 < mitrax> :O
2016-04-14T12:07:37 < ReadError> so blogs are dead
2016-04-14T12:07:42 < ReadError> let me ask a tough question
2016-04-14T12:07:49 < ReadError> > have UPS
2016-04-14T12:07:55 < ReadError> > have multiple machines hooked up to UPS
2016-04-14T12:08:01 < ReadError> > UPS only has 1 USB output
2016-04-14T12:08:22 < zyp> use networked shit to tell all machines to shutdown
2016-04-14T12:08:30 < ReadError> > any daemon/app/service that can handle distributed shutdown/suspends?
2016-04-14T12:08:37 < ReadError> to every machine
2016-04-14T12:08:51 < ReadError> ya they are all networked
2016-04-14T12:08:52 < PeterM> if you dint get a trash ups it should come with ti
2016-04-14T12:08:52 < zyp> I'd expect upsd to be able to do that
2016-04-14T12:09:10 < ReadError> zyp I know it can to the machine its plugged into
2016-04-14T12:09:16 < ReadError> ive not installed the software...
2016-04-14T12:09:27 < ReadError> but they typically let you add many host ?
2016-04-14T12:09:42 < dongs> looked into this a while ago when setting up esxi
2016-04-14T12:09:45 < dongs> gave up cuz there was nothing useful
2016-04-14T12:09:51 < ReadError> esxi i need to do powercli
2016-04-14T12:09:58 < dongs> just a bunch of broken faggot lunix scripts
2016-04-14T12:10:05 < ReadError> (which is windows)
2016-04-14T12:10:22 < ReadError> but ignoring the ESXi bit, i have a mix of machines
2016-04-14T12:10:31 < ReadError> osx, windows, linux
2016-04-14T12:10:49 < ReadError> but never looked into the distributed shutdown stuff
2016-04-14T12:18:53 < dongs> run windows, problem solved
2016-04-14T12:19:32 < ReadError> right, shutting down the computer its plugged in to should be easy
2016-04-14T12:19:39 < ReadError> which can be windows
2016-04-14T12:20:02 < Thorn> dongs: why do you need an fpga for dmx512
2016-04-14T12:20:05 < Thorn> many channels?
2016-04-14T12:20:08 < dongs> yes
2016-04-14T12:20:22 < dongs> and a lot easier to do spi->lots of dmx
2016-04-14T12:20:24 < dongs> with same timing
2016-04-14T12:21:16 < Thorn> what data rate
2016-04-14T12:21:22 < dongs> .. dmx
2016-04-14T12:21:24 < dongs> its fixed
2016-04-14T12:21:26 < dongs> 250kbit or whatever
2016-04-14T12:24:56 < Thorn> is dmx used anywhere other than stage lighting btw?
2016-04-14T12:25:03 < dongs> its used everywehre
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2016-04-14T12:45:42 < dongs> rite
2016-04-14T12:46:33 < dongs> where the fuck is pci-jewpress dimensions
2016-04-14T12:46:39 < dongs> is that shit in fucking payware spec
2016-04-14T12:47:06 < upgrdman> what do you mean, like pci-express pbc size and thickness?
2016-04-14T12:47:17 < dongs> yes
2016-04-14T12:47:22 < dongs> and location of slots and trash
2016-04-14T12:47:26 < upgrdman> doesnt altidongs have that as a template
2016-04-14T12:48:04 < karlp> dongs/ohsix, I think I just had bad flash/sram base address locations on the samd10, will look a bit better tonight maybe.
2016-04-14T12:48:36 < dongs> well its not in base specification
2016-04-14T12:48:49 < dongs> upgrdman: i need specific sizes to know how more/less I can go
2016-04-14T12:48:55 < dongs> i saw their huge card template
2016-04-14T12:48:56 < dongs> its shit
2016-04-14T12:49:04 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-14T12:49:33 < dongs> i think its the "electromechanical specification" pdf.
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2016-04-14T12:50:41 < dongs> score
2016-04-14T12:50:50 < dongs> i also needed bracket dimensions and that pdf delivers.
2016-04-14T12:50:57 < dongs> http://read.pudn.com/downloads166/ebook/758109/PCI_Express_CEM_1.1.pdf
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2016-04-14T12:52:29 < dongs> (yes there's gonna be a STM32 on that card)
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2016-04-14T13:05:16 < ReadError> how shitty are those pcb usb connectors w/o goldfingers
2016-04-14T13:05:26 < ReadError> they shit out after a few insertions?
2016-04-14T13:06:08 < jpa-> goldfingers?
2016-04-14T13:06:43 < jpa-> ah, yeah, using PCB traces as USB A connector without thick gold plating
2016-04-14T13:07:02 < Sync> sometimes you have to put solder on them
2016-04-14T13:07:15 < karlp> heh, cmd.exe was really the primary reason I left windows.
2016-04-14T13:07:25 < jpa-> i've seen it done sometimes, haven't seen any of them crap out so far (well, they are pretty crappy to begin with)
2016-04-14T13:07:43 < jpa-> karlp: where did you leave him?
2016-04-14T13:07:52 < jpa-> alone on the glacier?
2016-04-14T13:08:02 < ReadError> glad im not the only one that things cmd.exe is a pile of shit
2016-04-14T13:08:10 < ReadError> thought i was alone on that..
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2016-04-14T13:08:31 < jpa-> powershell is kind of not-shit, but i don't know how to use it
2016-04-14T13:09:13 < ReadError> the powershell debugger thing is pretty nice
2016-04-14T13:09:47 < dongs> concrete examples, dudes
2016-04-14T13:09:57 < dongs> dont just drop "cmd is shit" without facts
2016-04-14T13:10:05 < dongs> lunix is shit and I can back it up with a metric ton of facts
2016-04-14T13:10:08 < karlp> globbing and argument handling and running perl scripts :)
2016-04-14T13:10:12 < ReadError> it doesnt support active resizing
2016-04-14T13:10:14 < ReadError> for one..
2016-04-14T13:10:20 < dongs> ReadError: i already covered this.
2016-04-14T13:10:24 < karlp> cmd.exe meaning things like copy and move and dir being shit too.
2016-04-14T13:10:25 < ReadError> clicking pauses execution (whhy?)
2016-04-14T13:10:27 < dongs> karlp: sorry what is "perl"
2016-04-14T13:10:35 < dongs> ReadError: turn off autoselect in properties
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2016-04-14T13:10:42 < ReadError> no useful lunix tools either
2016-04-14T13:10:52 < ReadError> like grep, find, for loops, etc
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2016-04-14T13:10:54 < dongs> you want "useful" (debatable) lunix tools, run lunix
2016-04-14T13:10:55 < dongs> not windows
2016-04-14T13:10:55 < karlp> some thign I used to use when I wanted to keep windows because I liked it, but wanted linux for getting shit done.
2016-04-14T13:11:04 < ReadError> atleast gimme grep
2016-04-14T13:11:06 < ReadError> by default
2016-04-14T13:11:07 < karlp> still never found anything as good as old windows explorer.
2016-04-14T13:11:14 < dongs> ReadError: findstr
2016-04-14T13:11:16 < dongs> next?
2016-04-14T13:11:32 < lorenzo> I like OpenVMS
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2016-04-14T13:12:11 < ReadError> I dont see why I have to set a width in the settings
2016-04-14T13:12:14 < lorenzo> waiting for the x86 port then I'll have it on my laptop :D
2016-04-14T13:12:17 < ReadError> why cant you just drag the corner
2016-04-14T13:12:36 < karlp> "bcause"
2016-04-14T13:12:47 < karlp> why aren't you using drag and drop anyway?
2016-04-14T13:12:54 < karlp> everything you need can be done with tiles rite?
2016-04-14T13:14:12 < ReadMobl> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tvl7wDsW/
2016-04-14T13:14:15 < dongs> karlp: i explained why already, he doesnt get it
2016-04-14T13:14:18 < ReadError> how about that
2016-04-14T13:14:21 < ReadError> fucking useless
2016-04-14T13:14:34 < dongs> its /? on windows you moron
2016-04-14T13:14:45 < dongs> been like this for literally decades
2016-04-14T13:14:49 < dongs> from like dos 1.0
2016-04-14T13:14:59 < dongs> not my fault you're a dumb tool
2016-04-14T13:15:10 < ReadError> yes it is
2016-04-14T13:15:23 < ReadError> regardless, windows would be a lot nicer with the standard gnu tools
2016-04-14T13:15:28 < dongs> no
2016-04-14T13:15:29 < ReadError> and a decent cmd.exe
2016-04-14T13:15:34 < dongs> standard gnu tools are fucking garbage
2016-04-14T13:15:40 < dongs> shit code piled on top of shit  code
2016-04-14T13:15:41 < lorenzo> NT and VMS are consistent at least
2016-04-14T13:15:43 < lorenzo> it's always /?
2016-04-14T13:15:44 < lorenzo> not -h
2016-04-14T13:15:45 < lorenzo> or --h
2016-04-14T13:15:46 < lorenzo> or --help
2016-04-14T13:15:47 < lorenzo> or -help
2016-04-14T13:15:57 < dongs> lorenzo: how about printing that said help to STDERR isntead of stdout
2016-04-14T13:15:59 < dongs> so you cant | more it
2016-04-14T13:16:05 < dongs> this is hte most fucking raging part about GNU garbage
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2016-04-14T13:16:13 < dongs> > print miles of help text
2016-04-14T13:16:25 < lorenzo> dongs: eh you need to 2&>1&$>!?%>
2016-04-14T13:16:26 < dongs> > to stderr, so you cant fucking page it without a mile of extra commands to override stderr
2016-04-14T13:16:30 < dongs> lorenzo: ^
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2016-04-14T13:17:12 < zyp> dongs, is that why you bought 4k monitors?
2016-04-14T13:17:36 < jpa-> dongs: one option is just to use the scroll bar at the side of the terminal
2016-04-14T13:18:24 < jpa-> (because no-one remembers |&  )
2016-04-14T13:23:27 < dongs> to maximize lunix pages?
2016-04-14T13:25:51 < mitrax_> crt: and CTRL+Z!
2016-04-14T13:42:46 < ReadError> windows has some good things, like RDP
2016-04-14T13:42:55 < ReadError> but console shit i wouldnt consider even close
2016-04-14T13:46:07 < dongs> pro'd http://i.imgur.com/70NW3lS.png
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2016-04-14T13:53:27 < dongs> i dont wanna know how long this would take in kikecad or eagle
2016-04-14T13:53:45 < dongs> typical eagle user would be like: HMM I NEED PCIE ADAFRUIT LIBRARY
2016-04-14T13:53:47 < dongs> WHERE 2 GET
2016-04-14T13:54:25 < karlp> did you have to draw it yourself or did altipro have it for you alreayd?
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2016-04-14T13:58:44 < dongs> karlp: myself
2016-04-14T13:58:46 < dongs> from pdf
2016-04-14T13:59:11 < dongs> all dimensions 100% matching page 72 of that _CEM_1.1
2016-04-14T13:59:23 < dongs> except top hole/top side since that was for lowprofile bracket
2016-04-14T14:01:34 < ReadError> whats with the short leg
2016-04-14T14:02:10 < dongs> on the left?
2016-04-14T14:02:20 < dongs> prevent from plugging into pci slots, its in the standard
2016-04-14T14:02:26 < ReadError> no the trace
2016-04-14T14:02:31 < ReadError> exposed pad
2016-04-14T14:02:38 < dongs> you mean white?
2016-04-14T14:02:39 < dongs> thats silk.
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2016-04-14T14:02:46 < dongs> oh
2016-04-14T14:02:47 < ReadError> last from the right
2016-04-14T14:02:47 < mitrax_> no
2016-04-14T14:02:50 < ReadError> over 1
2016-04-14T14:02:50 < mitrax_> the pad that's shorter
2016-04-14T14:02:56 < dongs> right, thats also spec
2016-04-14T14:03:00 < dongs> there's backside short ones too
2016-04-14T14:03:02 < dongs> they insert later
2016-04-14T14:03:06 < dongs> when other make contacat
2016-04-14T14:03:10 < dongs> its hotplug or somesthing pin
2016-04-14T14:03:35 < dongs> B17 and A1
2016-04-14T14:03:39 < dongs> are presence detect pin
2016-04-14T14:09:04 < zyp> what pcie thing are you making?
2016-04-14T14:09:50 < ReadError> this pi zero thing is useless
2016-04-14T14:10:12 < ReadError> no wireless/bt/ethernet
2016-04-14T14:10:48 < ReadError> kickstart an esp shield and breakbread
2016-04-14T14:12:03 < jpa-> what did you expect?
2016-04-14T14:12:23 < ReadError> not much really
2016-04-14T14:12:39 < ReadError> but it was 5$ by the register so i just had the fuckit mentality
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2016-04-14T14:12:57 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wXtbF4NY/IMG_1414.JPG
2016-04-14T14:13:01 < ReadError> see that? lol
2016-04-14T14:13:14 < ReadError> think there was some little debugger tool inside
2016-04-14T14:14:51 < jpa-> nice if you actually got rpi for $5, most people end up paying more than $15 for that crap
2016-04-14T14:15:55 < ReadError> i sorta wanted the pi3 but didnt see any and didnt want to put any effort into finding one
2016-04-14T14:16:06 < karlp> ReadError: however, it has functional usb otg, so gadget mode
2016-04-14T14:16:44 < ReadError> atleast the pi3 is kinda neat
2016-04-14T14:16:47 < ReadError> with the wifi and bt
2016-04-14T14:17:57 < lorenzo> http://it.aliexpress.com/item/Orange-Pi-One-ubuntu-linux-and-android-mini-PC-Beyond-and-Compatible-with-Raspberry-Pi-2/32603308880.html
2016-04-14T14:19:03 < ReadError> great! now my ali is stuck in italian
2016-04-14T14:19:05 < ReadError> j/k
2016-04-14T14:19:25 < lorenzo> haha yeah it's pretty stupid whenever I follow a link from someone else on IRC it saves the language
2016-04-14T14:20:05 < PeterM> ive never really looked into it, btu can you do anythin at reasonable speeds on the rpi? like, can you say... 1mhz, 8bit pwm?
2016-04-14T14:20:40 < ReadError> the first pi was fucking useless
2016-04-14T14:20:49 < ReadError> it would just crash non stop if you started x
2016-04-14T14:21:11 < ReadError> not sure about the gpio capabilities tho
2016-04-14T14:21:30 < ReadError> mostly just use them for dumb stuff like 3d printer gcode spitter
2016-04-14T14:25:52 < ReadError> i did go extra retarded and got some 'carbon fiber PLA'
2016-04-14T14:27:05 < lorenzo> PeterM: I think you'd have better luck with any microcontroller for that specific task
2016-04-14T14:27:42 < ReadError> what someone should do is interface a big ass stm32
2016-04-14T14:27:54 < ReadError> then make it easy for folks to access the gpios on that
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2016-04-14T14:28:14 < ReadError> like a bunch of adcs, i2c, spi etc
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2016-04-14T14:28:27 < ReadError> figured that would have been done by now
2016-04-14T14:29:32 < ReadError> little pydong wrapper or create /dev/adc[0....10]
2016-04-14T14:30:39 < lorenzo> btw, has anyone ever played with ATWINC1500?
2016-04-14T14:30:40 < Lux> lorenzo: that allwinner orange pi is pretty useless
2016-04-14T14:30:53 < Lux> at least if you want to do anything with multimedia under linux
2016-04-14T14:31:20 < lorenzo> Lux: nah why would I want to do anything related with multimedia on linux
2016-04-14T14:31:21 < lorenzo> lol
2016-04-14T14:31:28 < Lux> there is like 0 driver support for all those fancy decoders
2016-04-14T14:31:50 < Lux> that's what like 90% of the people do with a pi ;)
2016-04-14T14:32:36 < ReadError> atleast they are getting almost usable though
2016-04-14T14:32:47 < Lux> i'd get a chip if you want something proper and cheap
2016-04-14T14:32:53 < ReadError> using that loosely
2016-04-14T14:32:56 < Lux> with real lunix support
2016-04-14T14:33:41 < ReadError> Lux isnt that the same boat as all the other SoC boards?
2016-04-14T14:33:56 < ReadError> or do they have more stuff working/better
2016-04-14T14:34:05 < Lux> they have more stuff working better
2016-04-14T14:34:14 < ReadError> ahhh
2016-04-14T14:34:20 < ReadError> and still only like $10 right
2016-04-14T14:34:27 < Lux> they put quite a bit of effort in it to get mainline linux support
2016-04-14T14:34:32 < ReadError> last I checked nothing was in stock
2016-04-14T14:34:33 < ReadError> ever
2016-04-14T14:34:47 < Lux> yeah 9$ plus shipping
2016-04-14T14:34:59 < ReadError> june 2016 shipping
2016-04-14T14:35:12 < dongs> < Lux> i'd get a chip if you want something proper and cheap
2016-04-14T14:35:14 < dongs> how is it proper
2016-04-14T14:35:17 < dongs> its same allwhiner junk
2016-04-14T14:35:29 < ReadError> VGA adapter
2016-04-14T14:35:31 < ReadError> thats kinda neat
2016-04-14T14:35:37 < lorenzo> I've used that orange thing as a throwaway board for an industrial scale
2016-04-14T14:35:45 < lorenzo> no issues whatsoever besides from temperature rating
2016-04-14T14:35:55 < lorenzo> which is the only reason we then moved to the same exact SoC
2016-04-14T14:35:58 < lorenzo> just with better rated memory around it
2016-04-14T14:36:10 < dongs> ReadError: ????
2016-04-14T14:36:10 < ReadError> if its compat with rpi
2016-04-14T14:36:14 < ReadError> isnt that impossible to buy?
2016-04-14T14:36:22 < ReadError> dongs http://getchip.com/pages/things
2016-04-14T14:36:46 < Lux> dongs: it is, but they actually paid kernel devs to get support
2016-04-14T14:37:16 < dongs> ReadError: yeah waht afuckingboutit it, that allwhiner shit has 6bit parallel rgb out
2016-04-14T14:37:41 < ReadError> sure but nobody else has used it, guess hdmi is more popular anyways
2016-04-14T14:37:51 < dongs> so they're just levelshifting and t hen doing r2r ladder for VGA or whatever
2016-04-14T14:38:18 < Lux> all the orange pi guys do is push cheap hardware with some ancient ubuntu images
2016-04-14T14:39:28 < ReadError> ya i learned that too
2016-04-14T14:39:37 < ReadError> these no name boards have shitty builds
2016-04-14T14:39:50 < ReadError> and nobody updates them
2016-04-14T14:39:50 < dongs> retards want lunix
2016-04-14T14:40:04 < ReadError> so best to stick to the big players like rpi/bbb etc
2016-04-14T14:40:09 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/loQf0Hz
2016-04-14T14:40:21 < lorenzo> as long as there's buildroot support it's okay for me
2016-04-14T14:40:28 < lorenzo> not sure why people are running full ubuntu images on these boards
2016-04-14T14:40:54 < lorenzo> with the SD card mounted r/w lol, which lasts exactly three days
2016-04-14T14:42:23 < Lux> lorenzo: there is buildroot support for the opi h3 boards ?
2016-04-14T14:43:20 < lorenzo> [lorenzo@elisa ~/dev/buildroot-2016.02]$ ls board/orangepi/
2016-04-14T14:43:20 < lorenzo> orangepipc
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2016-04-14T14:44:31 < lorenzo> Lux: http://hastebin.com/qohukudaga.avrasm here's all the tree if you're curious what they support
2016-04-14T14:46:01 < PeterM> crt nah, mainly roadrunner glue and paintingsa of caves that look very realistic
2016-04-14T14:46:06 < lorenzo> :D they make pretty decent system on modules, one of the best AT91SAM designs I've tried
2016-04-14T14:46:10 < lorenzo> definitely not in raspberry pi price range though
2016-04-14T14:46:14 < dongs> ReadError: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/D/X10SDV-7TP4F.cfm
2016-04-14T14:46:23 < dongs> you should have got this board instead of your toy junk
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2016-04-14T14:46:56 < Ecco> Hi everyone!
2016-04-14T14:47:05 < ReadError> its not out
2016-04-14T14:47:12 < ReadError> and I dont need SFP+
2016-04-14T14:47:47 < lorenzo> superdom?
2016-04-14T14:47:57 < lorenzo> is that a disk on module thing?
2016-04-14T14:48:15 < PeterM> ReadError, only $900 USD too, bargin, like half that synologything
2016-04-14T14:48:38 < ReadError> lol wait what
2016-04-14T14:48:41 < ReadError> D series CPU?
2016-04-14T14:48:47 < dongs> or this http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/D/X10SDV-7TP8F.cfm
2016-04-14T14:48:52 < PeterM> http://www.wiredzone.com/supermicro-components-motherboards-embedded-processor-x10sdv-7tp4f-10025890
2016-04-14T14:49:06 < lorenzo> Xeon D should be the one with 10 GbE onboard
2016-04-14T14:49:14 < lorenzo> noticed ovh is using it a lot
2016-04-14T14:49:28 < ReadError> waiting on the browntruck to bring my case
2016-04-14T14:49:38 < PeterM> Recommended Customer Price	 TRAY: $571.00
2016-04-14T14:49:40 < PeterM> jesus fuck
2016-04-14T14:50:00 < ReadError> guy at the store was like, "oh, why didnt you get the new 7 series???"
2016-04-14T14:50:16 < ReadError> told him, m8, this blows the shit out of that 6700k
2016-04-14T14:51:37 < ReadError> plus pretty much future proof since mobo can run broadwell-e cpus too
2016-04-14T14:54:41 < PeterM> D1540D4U-2T2O8R
2016-04-14T14:54:44 < ReadError> PeterM didnt you see
2016-04-14T14:54:48 < ReadError> you can DIY synology
2016-04-14T14:54:54 < PeterM> ReadError, D1540D4U-2T2O8R
2016-04-14T14:54:55 < ReadError> only any ole hardware
2016-04-14T14:55:07 < ReadError> fuck paying all that $$$ for an atom and enclosure
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2016-04-14T15:02:31 < Laurenceb> http://8ch.net/n/res/371646.html
2016-04-14T15:03:01 < Laurenceb> lul they have video
2016-04-14T15:03:45 < Ecco> Guys, is there any reference design I could learn from that uses an STM32 powered by a lipo battery and that charges over USB?
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2016-04-14T15:05:31 < jpa-> Ecco: if you want something simple, see page 3 here  http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/other/uunimittari_rx.pdf
2016-04-14T15:05:58 < lorenzo> Ecco: https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/MCP73831.pdf
2016-04-14T15:06:12 < lorenzo> probably one of the simplest / lowest part count you can get
2016-04-14T15:06:16 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-14T15:07:42 < Ecco> Great!
2016-04-14T15:07:44 < Ecco> Thanks guys
2016-04-14T15:08:44 < jpa-> you may need a low voltage cutoff; it can be done in software, or you can use a battery with a protection chip
2016-04-14T15:10:53 < Ecco> yeah, the battery will most likely integrate a protection module
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2016-04-14T15:11:01 < Ecco> now I don't know exactly what it does though
2016-04-14T15:11:11 < Ecco> Thanks so much for the reference guys by the way
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2016-04-14T15:11:22 < Ecco> crt: what's this mdk-arm thing?
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2016-04-14T15:11:45 < lorenzo> jpa-: any simple supervisor IC?
2016-04-14T15:11:52 < lorenzo> was thinking max809 or similar to hold the reset
2016-04-14T15:12:12 < jpa-> holding reset doesn't put stm32 in any particularly low-power state
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2016-04-14T15:12:24 < jpa-> if you want to do it in hw, you will want to cut the power to stm32 completely
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2016-04-14T15:14:03 < lorenzo> jpa-: so you'd sample/compare the voltage and enter Vbat or some other sleep mode?
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2016-04-14T15:14:24 < lorenzo> (if you want to do it in firmware)
2016-04-14T15:14:24 < jpa-> yeah, check voltage with ADC and then go to standby
2016-04-14T15:15:13 < jpa-> requires that the rest of the circuit has low power draw or is controlled by stm32
2016-04-14T15:16:00 < lorenzo> sure
2016-04-14T15:16:07 < PeterM> dw01 series protection ic + 2 nch mosfets (get a dual nchannel sot-23-6/sc-70-6)
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2016-04-14T15:18:09 < jpa-> what i don't like about the battery protection chips that they cut out pretty low (2.4 V for DW01), so the battery already gets some damage
2016-04-14T15:18:47 < jpa-> if using LDO to get 3.3V, one can happily cut off when 3.3V voltage starts dropping, thus li-ion being at about 3.4-3.5V and most of it drained already
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2016-04-14T15:24:46 < PeterM> overdischarging isn't that bad for lithium cells, it is mostly the charging and overcharging that damages them
2016-04-14T15:25:19 < jpa-> hm, i remember reading that overdischarging does permanent damage pretty quick
2016-04-14T15:25:35 < Ecco> jpa-: what's the point of the 1167B33 low dropout regulator in the design you sent me?
2016-04-14T15:25:47 < Ecco> Is it to get 3.3V because the Maxim IC only outputs 4V ?
2016-04-14T15:26:02 < jpa-> Ecco: it is to get 3.3V because the battery gives anything up to 4.2V
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2016-04-14T15:28:13 < Ecco> Makes sense. I thought the charging IC would do that too, but it makes for sense that way
2016-04-14T15:28:18 < Ecco> *more
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2016-04-14T15:32:11 < Ecco> thanks :)
2016-04-14T15:34:55 < Ecco> In that same schematics (thanks again for that), VBus goes to the charging IC, the charging IC goes to the battery, and the battery goes to the regulator. So far, so good. But I notice that VBus also goes straight to the STM32. Why is that? Couldn't that create some kind of "loop" that could be dangerous?
2016-04-14T15:35:08 < Ecco> (I know the answer is no, I'm just a newbie trying to understand what you did :))
2016-04-14T15:36:14 < karlp> ReadError: re /dev/adcXXX that's what the iio framework is for, but yeah, it's very very underused and documented.
2016-04-14T15:36:47 < zyp> Ecco, vbus directly to the stm32 is probably just to detect whether it's present
2016-04-14T15:36:51 < zyp> i.e. whether usb is plugged in
2016-04-14T15:36:54 < ReadError> karlp but with some kind of MCU middleman?
2016-04-14T15:37:02 < ReadError> like stm32 connected to rpi via SPI
2016-04-14T15:37:09 < ReadError> then abstracted
2016-04-14T15:37:27 < Ecco> zyp: Oh, indeed :)
2016-04-14T15:38:07 < jpa-> yeah, zyp is correct
2016-04-14T15:38:36 < jpa-> someone could put resistor or voltage divider on the VBUS going to STM32
2016-04-14T15:39:04 < jpa-> in this case it wasn't necessary because the STM32 is always on, but if it is turned off then you need it because pins are +5V tolerant only when Vdd is provided
2016-04-14T15:40:57 < Ecco> Oh
2016-04-14T15:41:23 < Ecco> I see, thanks
2016-04-14T15:51:55 < Laurenceb> llu murica http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a7_1460620742
2016-04-14T16:04:09 < karlp> lorenzo: you should strive to be more ##hashstm420 in your commit comments on zypsnips, the aim is to be as unprofessionally professional as possible.
2016-04-14T16:04:11 < Ecco> "eye opening experience"
2016-04-14T16:04:19 < karlp> but yeah, thanks for that.
2016-04-14T16:04:48 < lorenzo> karlp: I'll do my best and add a picture of a pump next time. you're welcome anyway ;-)
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2016-04-14T16:34:01 < upgrdman> is the f7 easy to fuck with yet? like oocd, etc.
2016-04-14T16:34:17 < dongs> why not use real tools
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2016-04-14T16:36:01 < upgrdman> no stm at work, and dont feel like paying or torrenting pro tools if foss shit works
2016-04-14T16:36:22 < dongs> what feature of F7 do you need
2016-04-14T16:37:13 < ReadError> extra 3 inches
2016-04-14T16:37:49 < upgrdman> none. i just to step up from f0 and not sure if i want to go f4 again, or go full retard with f7
2016-04-14T16:38:33 < dongs> most F0 peripherals are ctualy better than F4
2016-04-14T16:38:42 < Ecco> So jpa- provided me with a schematics using a LiPo, charging IC, and LDO regulator
2016-04-14T16:38:42 < dongs> newer
2016-04-14T16:38:52 < dongs> duno why they havent updated all new stuff into F41x 2x etc
2016-04-14T16:39:01 < Ecco> THing is, the LDO is a 3.3V regulator, and I'm reading a datasheet of a LiPo cell and it gives a cut-off at 3.0V
2016-04-14T16:39:08 < Ecco> Wouldn't that be an issue?
2016-04-14T16:39:21 < upgrdman> lol, rousd for this qyusd dev board  http://www.amazon.com/STMICROELECTRONICS-STM32F4DISCOVERY-STM32-DISCOVERY-STM32F407/dp/B00HPLT1I4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460641029&sr=8-1&keywords=stm32f4
2016-04-14T16:39:49 < upgrdman> oops, 40usd for this 16usd...
2016-04-14T16:43:23 < dongs> upgrdman: L4 might be more interesting for you
2016-04-14T16:43:30 < dongs> still new peripherals, but FPU
2016-04-14T16:43:43 < dongs> F0->F4 unless you actually need mhz is a downgrade
2016-04-14T16:43:46 < upgrdman> k
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2016-04-14T16:47:09 < upgrdman> does l4 have a fuckton of timers like the f4 does?
2016-04-14T16:47:26 < dongs> they all do
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2016-04-14T16:47:54 < dongs> oh neat
2016-04-14T16:48:00 < dongs> L4x6 has USB OTG/device
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2016-04-14T16:50:20 < Ecco> By the way, where does the 3.3v tension come from? Why are so many devices using it?
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2016-04-14T16:51:41 < dongs> Ecco: if you have a lipo, and you care about using most of it, you need a buckboost converter
2016-04-14T16:52:21 < Ecco> dongs: thanks
2016-04-14T16:53:14 < Ecco> correct me if I'm wrong: my understanding of a buck-boost converter is that it's the kind of converter that can either output higher or lower tension as to what it's provided
2016-04-14T16:53:27 < Ecco> so it could reliably output say 3.3v from either 3.7 or 3.0v
2016-04-14T16:53:37 < dongs> yeah.
2016-04-14T16:53:48 < dongs> TPS63001 is a good general purpose one if you dont need a lot of currrent.
2016-04-14T16:53:54 < dongs> only needs a coil and 2 caps.
2016-04-14T16:54:16 < Ecco> That seem very nice. I guess there's a catch: either those are very expensive or have a bad yield?
2016-04-14T16:54:24 < dongs> they work just fine
2016-04-14T16:54:25 < Ecco> thanks very much for the reference
2016-04-14T16:54:38 < dongs> price is not bad
2016-04-14T16:55:40 < Ecco> Well, mouser lists them at $1+ for 1k+ units
2016-04-14T16:56:24 < Ecco> as compared to $0.078 3.3V LDOs
2016-04-14T16:56:34 < Ecco> well granted those are not the same things
2016-04-14T16:56:37 < Ecco> and it all makes sense
2016-04-14T16:56:38 < upgrdman> jew spotted
2016-04-14T16:56:41 < Ecco> :-D
2016-04-14T16:56:51 < dongs> well
2016-04-14T16:56:52 < Ecco> Either I want to fully empty the battery and use 3.3 v alim
2016-04-14T16:56:53 < dongs> you either want your shit to work
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2016-04-14T16:58:28 < upgrdman> just fuckijg around
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2016-04-14T16:58:31 < Ecco> :-D
2016-04-14T16:59:39 < mitrax> Ecco: is that for the calculator thing?
2016-04-14T17:00:08 < dongs> lol
2016-04-14T17:00:14 < dongs> jewpad pro LCD+digitizer appeared in china
2016-04-14T17:00:15 < dongs> $300
2016-04-14T17:00:17 < Ecco> yeah
2016-04-14T17:00:18 < dongs> what a waste
2016-04-14T17:00:41 < mitrax> Ecco: what's the minimum voltage for the LCD you're using?
2016-04-14T17:00:58 < Ecco> The doc says 2.8V
2016-04-14T17:01:11 < mitrax> Ecco: unless you have something that specifically requires 3.3V you could run the cpu at much lower voltage i guess
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2016-04-14T17:01:30 < Ecco> Yeah, that's what I was wondering
2016-04-14T17:01:53 < Ecco> In general, let's say all my components work in a given tension range
2016-04-14T17:01:59 < Ecco> for example, 2.5 to 3.5 V
2016-04-14T17:02:12 < mitrax> Ecco: most F4 work at 2.1V without voltage supervisors, and down to 1.8V in certain conditions
2016-04-14T17:02:15 < Ecco> which value should I choose? The lower the better?
2016-04-14T17:02:16 < upgrdman> voltage
2016-04-14T17:02:17 < PeterM> ecco, the price difference between a 2000mah cell and a 3000mah cell is mroe than $1 so, with the buck boost being mroe efficient and usign hte full range of the battery the over all cost per battery life is similar
2016-04-14T17:02:22 < upgrdman> wtf is tension
2016-04-14T17:02:32 < PeterM> tension=potential=votlage
2016-04-14T17:02:41 < Ecco> PeterM: Makes perfect sense. Unless if I don't need 3.3v :-)
2016-04-14T17:02:48 < upgrdman> is that a euro thing?
2016-04-14T17:03:07 < Ecco> I don't know, maybe
2016-04-14T17:03:29 < PeterM> ecco, in that case, use a buck and run at 2.1v, and dont burn off the pother 2.1v-0.9v with the ldo
2016-04-14T17:04:10 < PeterM> upgrdman, have yo unever heard the anode lead on a CRT referred to as a HT, or HT powerlines?
2016-04-14T17:04:12 < Ecco> PeterM: I'm sorry I ddidn't get it
2016-04-14T17:04:37 < mitrax> Ecco: he means use a buck converter (switching) and not LDO or otherwise you'll dissipate much more in the LDO
2016-04-14T17:04:47 < PeterM> ecco ldo reduces the output votlage by turnign it into heat, buck converter doesn';t turn it into heat
2016-04-14T17:04:48 < mitrax> Ecco: at 2.1V
2016-04-14T17:04:58 < upgrdman> peterm, yes i have, it just feels like an old term. like saying megacycles instead of megahertz
2016-04-14T17:05:09 < Ecco> Ohh, I see
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2016-04-14T17:05:38 < PeterM> even at 2.8v for lcd, at full batt ldo will still burn off like 1.4v
2016-04-14T17:07:15 < Ecco> There's something I quite don't understand though
2016-04-14T17:07:19 < Ecco> voltage != power
2016-04-14T17:07:26 < Ecco> so what power is really dissipated by the LDO?
2016-04-14T17:07:30 < dongs> dude
2016-04-14T17:07:34 < dongs> general rule of thumb
2016-04-14T17:07:38 < dongs> anythign that has "battery" in it
2016-04-14T17:07:38 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-14T17:07:40 < dongs> and "LDO"
2016-04-14T17:07:42 < dongs> doens't mix
2016-04-14T17:07:45 < dongs> example: see zano
2016-04-14T17:07:46 < Ecco> ok :-)
2016-04-14T17:07:51 < Ecco> Dully noted
2016-04-14T17:08:26 < Ecco> But for my own understanding
2016-04-14T17:08:53 < Ecco> is the idea that the input current is the same as the output current?
2016-04-14T17:09:05 < Ecco> Therefore yeah, some power should be dissipated
2016-04-14T17:09:17 < upgrdman> ecco, with an ldo, youre burning the difference in voltage. so if youre using 100ma, and vin is 5v and vout is 3v, you burning 2v at 100ma which is .2w
2016-04-14T17:09:30 < mitrax> Ecco: (Vin - Vout) * current
2016-04-14T17:09:43 < Ecco> ok, excellent
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2016-04-14T17:10:04 < Ecco> so yeah ok it makes sense either when Vin is very similar to Vout or when you don't give a shit about power efficiency :)
2016-04-14T17:11:15 < mitrax> Ecco: a buck converter will still be lot more expensive than an LDO, but i guess you can find some in the $0.2 or $0.3 price range in large quantities
2016-04-14T17:11:45 < mitrax> Ecco: assuming you don't need more than 0.5A
2016-04-14T17:12:02 < Ecco> mitrax: thank you very much for that
2016-04-14T17:12:11 < Ecco> yeah, 0.5A should be way over what we need
2016-04-14T17:12:39 < Ecco> And anyway, I understood that the LDO would do a terrible job.
2016-04-14T17:13:12 < Ecco> Given the price of LiPo cells, it just doesn't make sense to be super cheap on the regulator
2016-04-14T17:14:30 < mitrax> probably, it quickly adds up though
2016-04-14T17:15:56 < mitrax> but yeah it's stupid to buy crappy quality stuff just to save a few cents... it almost always come back to bite you in the ass some day
2016-04-14T17:24:52 < jpa-> Ecco: http://www.richtek.com/battery-management/img/battery-discharge.png   with LDO to 3.3V, you can discharge down to about 3.5V; so if you are discharging at e.g. 0.2C (5 hour battery life), then you have used pretty much all of the capacity by the point when you reach 3.5V
2016-04-14T17:25:18 < jpa-> whereas if you are discharging at 2.0C (30 minutes battery life), you pretty much need to use buck-boost or otherwise run your electronics at e.g. 2.8V
2016-04-14T17:26:08 < jpa-> dunno what dongs is going up about, a zano using lipos at 10C is pretty different than many small li-ion powered devices which have many hours battery life
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2016-04-14T17:26:56 < jpa-> i've found that for many of my own devices, LDO is the best option and buck-boost just adds complexity and cost
2016-04-14T17:27:09 < zyp> jpa-, probably efficiency
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2016-04-14T17:27:34 < jpa-> zyp: but that is not very much either; dropping 0.4V on LDO with li-ion is non-issue
2016-04-14T17:27:42 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-14T17:27:51 < jpa-> 89% efficiency for most of the discharge
2016-04-14T17:28:10 < zyp> smps aren't 100% either
2016-04-14T17:28:16 < jpa-> if you have buck-boost bringing that up to 95%, for that cost you would have just put a bigger battery :)
2016-04-14T17:28:37 < Ecco> I'm going to use the battery at a very low current
2016-04-14T17:28:39 < mitrax> considering it's for a calculator i guess it will be more like 0.01C so yeah ... won't drop until the battery is depleted
2016-04-14T17:28:46 < Ecco> < 100mA
2016-04-14T17:28:52 < Ecco> ideally maybe around 50 mA
2016-04-14T17:28:59 < mitrax> and 2000mAH battery?
2016-04-14T17:29:10 < Ecco> No, probably something smaller
2016-04-14T17:29:13 < Ecco> 1200 probably
2016-04-14T17:29:39 < TheSeven> still less than .1C
2016-04-14T17:29:41 < jpa-> so 0.05-0.1C.. yeah, i'd say you'll be fine with LDO
2016-04-14T17:29:45 < Ecco> Really?
2016-04-14T17:30:03 < Ecco> I quite don't get how the intensity matters here
2016-04-14T17:30:04 < TheSeven> especially if you can tolerate the output dropping to 3.0V or so
2016-04-14T17:30:14 < mitrax> Ecco: look at the curve jpa posted a link to
2016-04-14T17:30:17 < Ecco> I just did
2016-04-14T17:30:18 < dongs> I see we've got zano-level discussion here
2016-04-14T17:30:22 < TheSeven> higher current => more voltage drop across the internal resistance of the battery
2016-04-14T17:30:28 < Ecco> this I understood
2016-04-14T17:30:35 < Ecco> and it can completely rule-out an LDO
2016-04-14T17:30:39 < Ecco> this I understood
2016-04-14T17:30:44 < Ecco> but in the case where the LDO makes sense
2016-04-14T17:30:50 < Ecco> it's still greatly inefficient, isn't it?
2016-04-14T17:30:59 < zyp> no
2016-04-14T17:31:04 < TheSeven> a buck converter isn't that much more efficient either
2016-04-14T17:31:08 < Ecco> If the input tension is in the 3.8v, and I convert to 2.8v
2016-04-14T17:31:12 < zyp> LDO inefficiency depends on the voltage difference
2016-04-14T17:31:22 < TheSeven> to 2.8V it might start to make sense - to 3.3V probably not
2016-04-14T17:31:26 < Ecco> I'll waste like 30% of the power
2016-04-14T17:31:32 < Ecco> oh, I see
2016-04-14T17:31:44 < zyp> also, remember that a SMPS usually have peak efficiency at full load
2016-04-14T17:32:00 < Ecco> oh, ok
2016-04-14T17:32:01 < zyp> I believe LDOs usually have a lower quiescent current
2016-04-14T17:32:09 < jpa-> 74% efficiency is not terrible.. if you are not careful about SMPS design, you'll typically end up with some 80-85% efficiency with those
2016-04-14T17:32:14 < zyp> so at very light loads, LDOs would be more efficient
2016-04-14T17:32:17 < Ecco> so at lower loads (like my use case), the efficiency of a buck converter won't be very good
2016-04-14T17:32:21 < zyp> like, sleeping with only RTC on
2016-04-14T17:32:29 < Ecco> I understand
2016-04-14T17:32:42 < TheSeven> then again you can get a low-cost buck to use <50µA quiescent, so that isn't really a big deal either as long as you don't care about weeks of sleeping time with the regulator powered up
2016-04-14T17:32:44 < jpa-> now, to confuse things even further, consider choosing LiFePO4 instead of li-ion
2016-04-14T17:32:46 < dongs> zyp, zanoguy missed the "at light loads" part
2016-04-14T17:32:51 < zyp> haha
2016-04-14T17:33:28 < Ecco> well that too
2016-04-14T17:33:33 < PeterM> oh, calculator, fuck, could probably just run that shit through a resisitive dropoper
2016-04-14T17:33:35 < jpa-> then you could run STM32 directly off the LiFePO4 battery at varying voltage approx. 2.8V-3.6V, without regulator; and get the bonus of lifepo4's longer life (2000 charge cycles) and more safety :P
2016-04-14T17:33:37 < Ecco> we'll definitely want very long sleep periods
2016-04-14T17:33:51 < zyp> in cellphones and the likes, RTC and other active during sleep circuitry is usually supplied by an LDO, while the rest is supplied by switching regs
2016-04-14T17:34:03 < TheSeven> that might favor an LDO - or powering down the regulator altogether while sleeping
2016-04-14T17:34:22 < jpa-> Ecco: btw, do not pick the regulator i have in that schematic, it has way too high quiescent current (something like 50µA)
2016-04-14T17:34:32 < Ecco> ok, noted
2016-04-14T17:34:53 < Ecco> Well, during sleep I'll just need to be able to keep the SRAM content
2016-04-14T17:35:12 < Ecco> I probably won't have a 32Khz crystal
2016-04-14T17:35:29 < Ecco> so no RTC
2016-04-14T17:35:31 < TheSeven> what kind of MCU? does it support some kind of battery backup supply?
2016-04-14T17:35:42 < Ecco> So far we're eyeing STM32F401
2016-04-14T17:35:55 < dongs> for a calculator?
2016-04-14T17:36:04 < TheSeven> would it be sufficient to just keep the 4KB of backup sram that this has alive?
2016-04-14T17:36:18 < Ecco> yeah the datasheet does mention a Vbat
2016-04-14T17:36:32 < PeterM> is this like eccos professional ti-83 replacement or somthing?
2016-04-14T17:36:32 < Ecco> dongs: yeah
2016-04-14T17:36:38 < TheSeven> or do you want to keep the full memory contents?
2016-04-14T17:36:42 < dongs> why not a freaking L0
2016-04-14T17:36:48 < Ecco> TheSeven: Ideally the whole SRAM
2016-04-14T17:37:01 < karlp> Ecco: zyps right about peak efficiency at peak load, but there's quite a few switchers that switch to a different mode at low load to maintain high efficiency.  you normally get slightly higher ripple, but you often get to keep the efficiency,
2016-04-14T17:37:02 < Ecco> PeterM: It's a toy project of mine :)
2016-04-14T17:37:24 < Ecco> karlp: ok :)
2016-04-14T17:37:38 < karlp> jpa-: that s-1187 whatsit, it's datasheet sayts only 9uA?
2016-04-14T17:37:38 < Ecco> dongs: why would the L0 be better?
2016-04-14T17:37:51 < TheSeven> ok, so I think you can get that chip down to like 5µA while keeping the memory contants
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2016-04-14T17:38:09 < Ecco> TheSeven: Yeah, current draw is very low, that I did check
2016-04-14T17:38:25 < TheSeven> but you need to provide Vcc, that can be run off Vbak
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2016-04-14T17:39:25 < TheSeven> so I'd probably go for LDO-only, but if you're fancy, you could probably go for a 2.4V LDO + 2.8V buck or something, disabling the latter while sleeping
2016-04-14T17:39:32 < Ecco> I see
2016-04-14T17:40:16 < Ecco> In fact the idea is to figure out up to what voltage I want to be able to discharge the battery, and pick an LDO based on that voltage
2016-04-14T17:40:33 < Ecco> and figure out what the efficiency will be based on the average voltage difference
2016-04-14T17:40:46 < TheSeven> I guess the 2.8V limit of the LCD is what will define your operating voltage in the end
2016-04-14T17:40:59 < Ecco> Well are you sure?
2016-04-14T17:41:04 < Ecco> Given the discharge curve
2016-04-14T17:41:06 < jpa-> karlp: hmm, you are right; i guess i remembered wrong - though 9µA is still somewhat large
2016-04-14T17:41:16 < Ecco> a LiPo battery is pretty much dead at 3.0 v
2016-04-14T17:41:26 < TheSeven> that allows you to discharge the battery to about 3.0V, which seems like a reasonable cutoff
2016-04-14T17:41:28 < Ecco> so I should aim for 3.0v, shouldn't I?
2016-04-14T17:41:34 < Ecco> oh
2016-04-14T17:41:40 < Laurenceb> I run 3.3v stuff off lipo with ldo
2016-04-14T17:41:55 < Ecco> well the LDO that jpa linked to had a 0.1v drop off if I read the spec correctly
2016-04-14T17:42:40 < Sync> does anybody know if routing timers to alternate pins produces internal delays of some sort?
2016-04-14T17:42:53 < Sync> I have somebody claiming that, but cannot find anything in the manuals
2016-04-14T17:43:01 < dongs> sync, lol..
2016-04-14T17:43:11 < Ecco> ok, thank you so much for all the explanations guys
2016-04-14T17:43:18 < Ecco> It's much, *much* clearer now
2016-04-14T17:43:20 < Ecco> thank you
2016-04-14T17:44:35 < Ecco> I'll try to prepare some calculations and run it by you guys
2016-04-14T17:44:43 < Ecco> just to make sure I understood it all right :)
2016-04-14T17:45:04 < TheSeven> I'd probably go for a XC6206P282MR or something as the LDO, very low quiescent and very cheap
2016-04-14T17:45:21 < Sync> dongs: well, I think he is blowing out of his ass, but I can't find anything. probably because he is
2016-04-14T17:45:29 < Ecco> Thanks TheSeven
2016-04-14T17:46:44 < TheSeven> or, if you want to go for a name brand one, MCP1700T-2802E
2016-04-14T17:47:13 < ReadError> hes only making like, 1
2016-04-14T17:47:13 < TheSeven> that one is more expensive but might be easier to get hold of outside of china ;)
2016-04-14T17:47:15 < ReadError> why cheap out
2016-04-14T17:47:44 < TheSeven> well if I order that kind of stuff, I rarely order less than 100, so I'll have stock for the next dozen of projects ;)
2016-04-14T17:48:06 < TheSeven> especially when 100 of them cost about twice as much as one, if you take shipping into account
2016-04-14T17:50:36 < dongs> sync, i mean if tehre's delay its gonna be in ps range
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2016-04-14T17:52:24 < Sync> well he claims that he has talked to a ST FAE
2016-04-14T17:52:36 < dongs> any good way to test?
2016-04-14T17:52:46 < dongs> what happens when you put same signal on different AF at once?
2016-04-14T17:52:51 < dongs> does it go out on both?
2016-04-14T17:53:04 < Sync> that's something I could try
2016-04-14T17:53:14 < dongs> yep
2016-04-14T17:53:27 < TheSeven> which chip are you even talking about?
2016-04-14T17:53:31 < dongs> any
2016-04-14T17:53:35 < TheSeven> on F0/F2/F4 you should be able to do that
2016-04-14T17:53:38 < Sync> STM32F103C8T6 specifically
2016-04-14T17:53:41 < dongs> oh
2016-04-14T17:53:43 < TheSeven> not sure if the crappy weird F1 pinmux can handle that
2016-04-14T17:53:45 < dongs> you cant do that on C8 :(
2016-04-14T17:54:11 < Sync> they also claim that STM32F103Txx is more pro shit for motor control as the delay is even smaller (???)
2016-04-14T17:54:20 < dongs> T??
2016-04-14T17:54:35 < dongs> like what
2016-04-14T17:54:38 < Sync> T8 and the like
2016-04-14T17:55:25 < Sync> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/open-source-controller-boards/283428-cnc-post1831380.html#post1831380
2016-04-14T17:56:13 < Sync> well, I can generate the same pwm and shove it out of different remapped pins
2016-04-14T17:56:16 < Sync> from the same timer
2016-04-14T17:56:33 < dongs> not sure if you can
2016-04-14T17:56:51 < Laurenceb> my LSE wont turn on :-/
2016-04-14T17:57:10 < Laurenceb> RCC_GetFlagStatus(RCC_FLAG_LSERDY) == RESET
2016-04-14T17:57:33 < Laurenceb> any ideas what could be broken? xtal looks ok
2016-04-14T17:58:07 < TheSeven> BDEN?
2016-04-14T17:58:27 < Laurenceb> whats BDEN?
2016-04-14T17:59:15 < TheSeven> er, I mean DBP in PWR_CR
2016-04-14T18:05:56 < Laurenceb> maybe I oxidised the bottom of the xtal :-S
2016-04-14T18:09:36 < Sync> yeah dongs the peripheral only lets me remap the complimentary pins
2016-04-14T18:09:40 < dongs> right
2016-04-14T18:09:48 < Sync> that is mad flaming homogay
2016-04-14T18:09:53 < dongs> F1 is retarded liek taht
2016-04-14T18:10:12 < Sync> wat to usez instead?
2016-04-14T18:10:18 < dongs> F0
2016-04-14T18:11:28 < Sync> doesn't fly, only one adc
2016-04-14T18:12:05 < dongs> what do you need two for?
2016-04-14T18:12:20 < dongs> there's some motor control F3/F4 stuff I guess
2016-04-14T18:12:27 < Sync> motorcontrol shits
2016-04-14T18:12:33 < Sync> need to sample current at the same time
2016-04-14T18:12:41 < Sync> otherwise stuff explodes
2016-04-14T18:13:21 < englishman> dual core f0
2016-04-14T18:13:29 < Sync> yeah f3 would do, but meh
2016-04-14T18:14:29 < englishman> theres some with comparators
2016-04-14T18:14:37 < englishman> if that helpz
2016-04-14T18:15:25 < Sync> comparators are currently not interesting, I'll go there latere for hardware anti explosion magic
2016-04-14T18:16:28 < PeterM> could go mad stm32f2 kek
2016-04-14T18:16:50 < dongs> heh
2016-04-14T18:16:56 < dongs> F2 = still trash peripherals, no?
2016-04-14T18:16:59 < dongs> er trash AF
2016-04-14T18:17:04 < dongs> or is that F4-style AF
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2016-04-14T18:17:30 < TheSeven> that's F4-style AF
2016-04-14T18:17:50 < TheSeven> basically F4 with M3 core instead of M4 and a little less memory... no FPU, no CCM
2016-04-14T18:18:12 < TheSeven> almost binary compatible
2016-04-14T18:18:18 < TheSeven> i.e. F2 binaries will run unmodified on F4
2016-04-14T18:18:32 < Sync> hm, f3 is probably the best thing
2016-04-14T18:18:35 < PeterM> the cheapest f2 is pretty cpaable
2016-04-14T18:18:48 < TheSeven> speaking of explosions, recently had an APC SmartUPS fail on me in a rather spectacular way ;) fried all but one or two power semiconductors, and blew apart the packages of about half of those. shorted out both battery and mains...
2016-04-14T18:20:35 < Sync> the cheapest f2 is like 3x more spendy than the cheapest f3
2016-04-14T18:20:58 < PeterM> rly?
2016-04-14T18:21:01 < Sync> ye
2016-04-14T18:21:01 < PeterM> hm?
2016-04-14T18:21:05 < TheSeven> cause, as far as I can tell, was excess SMD resistors sticking somewhere to a PCB, one of which became loose and flew into some place where it shorted something out
2016-04-14T18:21:09 < Sync> at least on farnell
2016-04-14T18:22:43 < PeterM> iirc my last lot of f205 were around $2.80 from chinaguy
2016-04-14T18:23:03 < PeterM> so a little over 2x f103
2016-04-14T18:23:45 < TheSeven> I love how these cheap f205s have ethernet :)
2016-04-14T18:23:55 < Sync> cheapest f2 on farnell is like 4.5€
2016-04-14T18:24:03 < dongs> who teh fuck shops at farnell
2016-04-14T18:24:05 < dongs> for production
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2016-04-14T18:24:21 < Sync> nobody, but that's not production
2016-04-14T18:24:29 < dongs> you shouldnt give a shit for samples
2016-04-14T18:24:38 < TheSeven> but production is what price matters for ;)
2016-04-14T18:24:54 < Sync> well, it also matters for prototypes to some degree
2016-04-14T18:25:19 < TheSeven> but probably not if it makes $2 or a difference
2016-04-14T18:25:22 < TheSeven> of*
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2016-04-14T18:26:30 < TheSeven> btw, is f072c8 finally below $1 in china?
2016-04-14T18:26:39 < dongs> no, its atually not buyable
2016-04-14T18:26:52 < dongs> none of F0x2 stuff is
2016-04-14T18:26:54 < fenugrec> GD doesn't make F0 clones yet IIRC
2016-04-14T18:27:13 < TheSeven> that's my go-to chip for most little projects these days, given that the less capable chips don't cost that much less
2016-04-14T18:27:25 < dongs> atually i might be lying
2016-04-14T18:27:35 < dongs> i was going to use it in something and made a price list for request
2016-04-14T18:27:42 < dongs> but dont remember waht came out of it
2016-04-14T18:28:36 < TheSeven> too bad that you can't sort by "price per piece" anymore on aliexpress
2016-04-14T18:29:40 < Sync> TheSeven: the 1.5 -> 4.5 (or rather 7.5) makes a difference
2016-04-14T18:30:04 < TheSeven> kinda depends on the total cost of the project
2016-04-14T18:30:25 < TheSeven> but given that F1 is just crap, I just wouldn't want to have to program that
2016-04-14T18:30:43 < TheSeven> looks like f072c8 is still around $1.3 a pop at 20pcs, shipped
2016-04-14T18:31:01 < Sync> I don't have a lot of problems with the f1
2016-04-14T18:31:49 < TheSeven> what keeps annoying me is the awful pinmux, the weird USB peripheral (and its need for a VBUS pin), lack of memory (especially if you use ethernet), ...
2016-04-14T18:32:15 < Sync> yeah the pinmux is pretty shitty
2016-04-14T18:32:29 < dongs> er?
2016-04-14T18:32:31 < TheSeven> it is also rather buggy
2016-04-14T18:32:32 < dongs> whcih F1 needs vbus
2016-04-14T18:32:39 < Sync> I guess I'll drop in a 302R6T6
2016-04-14T18:32:41 < dongs> ive used USB on F103 and it works
2016-04-14T18:32:48 < dongs> where does vbus go to?
2016-04-14T18:32:53 < TheSeven> some pin needs to be high or it just won't work
2016-04-14T18:33:01 < TheSeven> or maybe that was only for the DFU bootloader...
2016-04-14T18:33:07 < TheSeven> it was a major PITA though
2016-04-14T18:33:20 < TheSeven> because that pin collided with ethernet or something else that I needed
2016-04-14T18:35:08 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HLCI6Cdn/IMG_1416.JPG
2016-04-14T18:35:13 < ReadError> yis yis yis
2016-04-14T18:36:58 < PeterM> eeet gig dimmms? whey?
2016-04-14T18:40:25 < ReadError> gotta max out my lanes
2016-04-14T18:40:38 < ReadError> or something
2016-04-14T18:40:47 < ReadError> not sure how it works exactly but makes sense in my head
2016-04-14T18:41:56 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-14T18:42:07 < ReadError> channels??
2016-04-14T18:42:11 < ReadError> i duno
2016-04-14T18:42:16 < ReadError> i had 8 slots so i got 8 dimm
2016-04-14T18:42:29 < PeterM> you only got quad channel memory controlelr
2016-04-14T18:42:46 < PeterM> so only need 4 sticks for max megabitz
2016-04-14T18:42:59 < ReadError> cheaper ;p
2016-04-14T18:43:25 < PeterM> cept when you need another 64gb odf ram and need to buy 128 because you cant fit it
2016-04-14T18:43:48 < ReadError> well cpu is maxed
2016-04-14T18:43:58 < ReadError> not sure if the broadwell-e is gonna be 128 or not
2016-04-14T18:44:13 < ReadError> maybe the fancy $$$$$ xeons
2016-04-14T18:44:32 < ReadError> dont need that much horsepower to clone tho
2016-04-14T18:44:52 < ReadError> did that for you dongs
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2016-04-14T18:52:45 < Laurenceb> wtf
2016-04-14T18:52:51 < Laurenceb> maybe I have fried RTC
2016-04-14T18:52:59 < Laurenceb> my rtc pins seems to be floating
2016-04-14T18:53:07 < Laurenceb> and LSE is never ready
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2016-04-14T18:53:19 < Laurenceb> is it ok to leave VBat floating on F1  ?
2016-04-14T18:53:36 < dongs> yes
2016-04-14T18:53:40 < dongs> as long as it has power
2016-04-14T18:54:53 < fenugrec> I tthink they recommand puttinga cap on vbat if unused ? not sure
2016-04-14T18:55:01 < dongs> no they dont
2016-04-14T18:55:20 < Laurenceb> ok
2016-04-14T18:55:24 < Laurenceb> well this is weird
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2016-04-14T18:55:43 < Laurenceb> there do seem to be occasional spikes
2016-04-14T18:55:55 < Laurenceb> maybe LSE shuts down or something
2016-04-14T18:56:01 < fenugrec> hehe RM0008 " If no external battery is used in the application, it is recommended to connect VBAT
2016-04-14T18:56:02 < fenugrec> externally to VDD with a 100 nF external ceramic decoupling capacitor (for more details refer
2016-04-14T18:56:02 < fenugrec> to AN2586). "
2016-04-14T18:56:32 < dongs> sucks, ive been just leaving it disconnected lately
2016-04-14T18:56:39 < Laurenceb> hmm
2016-04-14T18:56:40 < dongs> *after* reading some RM and seeing block diagram
2016-04-14T18:56:44 < fenugrec> thought I had read that somehwere P-)
2016-04-14T18:56:46 < dongs> how its on a switch
2016-04-14T18:56:48 < Laurenceb> maybe its related to the version
2016-04-14T18:57:00 < Laurenceb> I've just switched to F103 made from another fab
2016-04-14T18:57:14 < Laurenceb> this board always worked before
2016-04-14T18:57:45 < Laurenceb> ah yeah in AN2586 LSE runs off backup domain
2016-04-14T18:57:53 < Laurenceb> it might be related to VBat
2016-04-14T18:59:41 < Laurenceb> oh shit
2016-04-14T18:59:53 < Laurenceb> I exceeded load capacitance by miles
2016-04-14T18:59:56 < Laurenceb> woops
2016-04-14T19:00:07 < fenugrec> miles of capacitance
2016-04-14T19:00:19 < Laurenceb> lul newer stm32 get more and more fragile
2016-04-14T19:00:33 < Laurenceb> the ESD protaction has got worse too
2016-04-14T19:01:05 < PeterM> Laurenceb, happens with process shrinkage
2016-04-14T19:01:38 < Laurenceb> yeah I have F103 from a different fab here
2016-04-14T19:10:26 < Laurenceb> I have some 12.5pf xtals
2016-04-14T19:10:53 < Laurenceb> Never use a resonator with a load capacitance of 12.5pF
2016-04-14T19:10:56 < Laurenceb> rekt
2016-04-14T19:14:14 < Sync> ^
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2016-04-14T19:41:11 < Steffanx> hmm, is gcc 5.3 that bad karlp? Bad experience with it?
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2016-04-14T19:48:11 < Rob235> whats up doods
2016-04-14T19:48:26 < Laurenceb> tom66ing it up
2016-04-14T19:49:01 < Rob235> wtf does that mean
2016-04-14T19:50:11 < Rob235> and can you buy me a vive?
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2016-04-14T19:52:16 < Laurenceb> my rtc is still broken :-/
2016-04-14T19:52:19 < Laurenceb> wtf is going on
2016-04-14T19:52:43 < Sync> must be your pro haxx0r codes
2016-04-14T19:52:50 < Laurenceb> nope
2016-04-14T19:52:58 < Laurenceb> same code runs with earlier F103
2016-04-14T19:53:10 < Laurenceb> also its St library code
2016-04-14T19:53:25 < Laurenceb> maybe I fried the F1 with earlier caps
2016-04-14T19:53:28 < Laurenceb> seems unlikely
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2016-04-14T19:54:48 < Rob235> I think I should end my long ass hiatus and start working on my drone again
2016-04-14T19:56:02 < Laurenceb> my VBat is at 150mv
2016-04-14T19:56:17 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmI-hGthrwA
2016-04-14T19:56:54 < Steffanx> Rob235, tom66 is a pro smd soldererer.
2016-04-14T19:58:10 < qyx> your Vbat is broken then
2016-04-14T19:58:25 < qyx> wait what
2016-04-14T19:58:30 < Rob235> ahh
2016-04-14T19:58:38 < Laurenceb> unless I actually screwed up me code
2016-04-14T19:58:38 < Rob235> wtf is that video
2016-04-14T19:58:47 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZAlKsWj_U
2016-04-14T19:58:55 < Rob235> I'm done clicking your links hah
2016-04-14T19:59:22 < Steffanx> also old.
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2016-04-14T20:04:30 < Rob235> what browser do you guys use? I've been using firefox forever but it's been causing me problems lately and I open up chrome and it works fine.
2016-04-14T20:07:49 < Laurenceb> ah - schematic in device manual says its a SPDT
2016-04-14T20:08:02 < Laurenceb> type switch, so there should be nothing on VBat
2016-04-14T20:12:35 < Laurenceb> hmf time to replace stm32
2016-04-14T20:12:40 < Laurenceb> this will be "fun"
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2016-04-14T20:15:47 < Laurenceb> literally tom66
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2016-04-14T20:22:23 < ReadError> ohsix, ssh for what?
2016-04-14T20:22:36 < ReadError> I was trying to find a good terminal
2016-04-14T20:22:43 < ReadError> like windows one
2016-04-14T20:22:51 < ReadError> never liked putty
2016-04-14T20:24:16 < ReadError> diggin that moba or w/e app
2016-04-14T20:25:35 < Laurenceb> I've surpassed tom66
2016-04-14T20:25:56 < Laurenceb> a perman00b has broken one of my irons
2016-04-14T20:25:58 < Laurenceb> so much fail
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2016-04-14T20:46:46 < karlp> Steffanx: just a few things that used to be ok, are now not compiling, a few people have reproted weird binutils/gcc mismatches with some of the modern toolchains.
2016-04-14T20:46:56 < karlp> g-a-e 5.3 doesn't compile the locm3 examples for instances.
2016-04-14T20:47:13 < karlp> we used something that was too much gnuuuuu and it's not included anymore or some shit
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2016-04-14T20:59:54 < ReadError> i think you are confused
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2016-04-14T21:00:14 < ReadError> im talking about the actual application that runs
2016-04-14T21:00:17 < ReadError> like cmd.exe
2016-04-14T21:00:59 < ReadError> what do you mean by that
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2016-04-14T21:06:35 < ReadError> no its just a pile of shit
2016-04-14T21:06:42 < ReadError> Terminal.app on OSX is 1000x better
2016-04-14T21:07:17 < ReadError> im talking usability
2016-04-14T21:07:24 < ReadError> tabs, copy/pasting
2016-04-14T21:07:36 < ReadError> being able to resize the window
2016-04-14T21:07:42 < ReadError> color support
2016-04-14T21:07:58 < ReadError> i have colors in my ssh sessions
2016-04-14T21:08:50 < ReadError> ok im not going to get in to the semantics
2016-04-14T21:09:05 < ReadError> or what happens behind the door
2016-04-14T21:09:12 < ReadError> i want fucking tabs
2016-04-14T21:09:16 < ReadError> i want to be able to resize shit
2016-04-14T21:09:24 < ReadError> i want a usable copy/paste method
2016-04-14T21:09:30 < ReadError> nah i found it
2016-04-14T21:09:40 < ReadError> or the next best thing
2016-04-14T21:10:27 < ReadError> Terminal.app doesnt have a problem with it
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2016-04-14T21:12:04 < ReadError> mobaXterm does exactly what I was looking for
2016-04-14T21:12:37 < ReadError> and quite a bit of other useful things
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2016-04-14T21:15:39 < Laurenceb> oh wut
2016-04-14T21:15:49 < Laurenceb> I just replaced by F103, same RTC issue
2016-04-14T21:15:52 < Laurenceb> so confuse
2016-04-14T21:16:17 < Sync> did you look into the errata shits?
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2016-04-14T21:17:20 < Laurenceb> I'll check
2016-04-14T21:18:44 < Laurenceb> there is a note about adding a parallel resistor...
2016-04-14T21:21:57 < Laurenceb> it's got to be related to the different fab
2016-04-14T21:22:11 < Laurenceb> I have a couple of thousand board made with the same xtal
2016-04-14T21:24:42 < englishman> do you even AN2867 bro
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2016-04-14T21:26:23 < Laurenceb> yup
2016-04-14T21:26:33 < Laurenceb> max R I have is 9M
2016-04-14T21:26:37 < Laurenceb> ok I'll try it
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2016-04-14T21:32:10 < Laurenceb> nope
2016-04-14T21:32:12 < Laurenceb> WTF
2016-04-14T21:32:54 < Laurenceb> .2x1.5mm MicroCrystal CM7V-T1A
2016-04-14T21:32:58 < Laurenceb> my xtal is right there
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2016-04-14T21:34:00 < Laurenceb> soon it will be time to email ST and rage
2016-04-14T21:35:15 < Laurenceb> this is very odd
2016-04-14T21:36:26 < Steffanx> clonery.
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2016-04-14T21:40:38 < Sync> dongs TheSeven just did testing with the remap shit
2016-04-14T21:40:45 < Laurenceb> I prob have another reel of the old F1 somewhere
2016-04-14T21:40:50 < Laurenceb> going to try that
2016-04-14T21:41:08 < Sync> delay from TIM1 CH3 to CH3N with partial remap increases by 3ns
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2016-04-14T21:43:22 < Laurenceb> precise figures :P
2016-04-14T21:43:36 < Laurenceb> I found some weirdness with the timer gating modes
2016-04-14T21:44:51 < Laurenceb> sometimes it didn't quite match my matlab models, seemed like the prorogation delay added by the slave control thing on F1 isnt always long enough
2016-04-14T21:45:05 < Laurenceb> it was all well behaved on F4
2016-04-14T21:45:41 < Sync> well Laurenceb from edge to edge
2016-04-14T21:45:49 < Laurenceb> ah yeah lol
2016-04-14T21:46:06 < Sync> which is somewhat more realistic than the 163ns shits the guy claims
2016-04-14T21:49:40 < Sync> see cnczone link from 4h ago
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2016-04-14T21:52:28 < Laurenceb> meanwhile on my colleagues pc
2016-04-14T21:52:44 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/iNzYFeu
2016-04-14T21:53:16 < Laurenceb> plot twist: its a trap
2016-04-14T21:53:47 < Laurenceb> and I was hoping he was working on labview...
2016-04-14T21:57:22 < Sync> fucking hueg capacitor
2016-04-14T21:58:45 < aandrew> HEH
2016-04-14T21:58:46 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/gallery/C98FBi7
2016-04-14T22:00:39 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/gallery/mlC0AmV
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2016-04-14T22:17:11 < kakimir> I became lathe master today
2016-04-14T22:17:39 < kakimir> in just 2hours
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2016-04-14T23:02:04 < Laurenceb> more weird issues
2016-04-14T23:02:38 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/gpio.c
2016-04-14T23:02:53 < Laurenceb> line 59, the pin is at 0.58v
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2016-04-14T23:03:04 < Laurenceb> I mean line 61
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2016-04-14T23:18:12 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xBxEZd68s musics
2016-04-14T23:24:29 < Laurenceb> oh
2016-04-14T23:24:30 < Laurenceb>  JNTRST
2016-04-14T23:24:32 < Laurenceb> I fail
2016-04-14T23:37:04 < Sync> yes, pro codes
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2016-04-15T00:06:49 < kakimir> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/man-accidentally-deletes-his-entire-company-with-one-line-of-bad-code-a6984256.html
2016-04-15T00:11:01 < kakimir> I had a laught
2016-04-15T00:11:26 < kakimir> stupid guy doesn't have real bakcuppin
2016-04-15T00:11:42 < kakimir> if rm -rf can reach it - not trust it
2016-04-15T00:16:50 < Steffanx> troll post.
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2016-04-15T02:19:35 < englishman> heh are you still messing with qucs
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2016-04-15T02:20:47 < emeb> R2COM: yeah
2016-04-15T02:21:00 < emeb> firpm and remez are pretty much interchangeable
2016-04-15T02:21:20 < englishman> yuo mentioned it a while abck
2016-04-15T02:21:31 < englishman> tis
2016-04-15T02:21:35 < englishman> speakiung of cloners
2016-04-15T02:21:41 < englishman> did you know mdk-arm is free
2016-04-15T02:21:58 < englishman> hehe
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2016-04-15T02:22:14 < englishman> its free for -m0, and <32k
2016-04-15T02:22:14 < emeb> crt is made of money?
2016-04-15T02:22:20 < emeb> ah
2016-04-15T02:22:21 < emeb> bs
2016-04-15T02:22:26 < englishman> and for real shit, you can make it use gcc
2016-04-15T02:22:43 < englishman> <32k to the linker
2016-04-15T02:23:00 < emeb> mdk has code size limit of 32kB for free use
2016-04-15T02:23:03 < emeb> but!
2016-04-15T02:23:08 < englishman> anything for m0 is free
2016-04-15T02:23:11 < englishman> f0 and l0
2016-04-15T02:23:17 < emeb> that's 32kB prior to running the optimizer
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2016-04-15T02:23:46 < englishman> theres some blogpost from last year that shows how
2016-04-15T02:23:53 < emeb> so if you have code that gets scrunched down to 10kB but it's 33kB prior to optimization then screw you.
2016-04-15T02:25:28 < englishman> last year.... 2012
2016-04-15T02:25:29 < englishman> close enough
2016-04-15T02:26:21 < englishman> wow, did someone poop in your commieflakes
2016-04-15T02:29:39 < englishman> again?
2016-04-15T02:29:58 < englishman> should i block you too maybe? maybe you are a bad chatter
2016-04-15T02:31:56 < kakimir> so cgi chip
2016-04-15T02:34:16 < kakimir> crt: I don't have your leds
2016-04-15T02:34:34 < kakimir> no I will not
2016-04-15T02:34:52 < kakimir> besides there is whole module and optics
2016-04-15T02:34:57 < kakimir> connectors, wiring
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2016-04-15T03:12:28 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: how is your basement interior?
2016-04-15T03:12:40 < Laurenceb_> good
2016-04-15T03:12:46 < Laurenceb_> I'm slowly painting the walls
2016-04-15T03:13:46 < Laurenceb_> http://www.funnyjunk.com/Hands+of+god/hdgifs/5621152/14#14
2016-04-15T03:15:26 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: tell me more about your basement
2016-04-15T03:16:57 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: it looks like that south park basement
2016-04-15T03:17:19 < kakimir> oh I get it now "paintin the walls"
2016-04-15T03:19:27 < kakimir> we may have another basement inhabitant
2016-04-15T03:21:52 < kakimir> basement is really the best place of the house to sleep and stuff
2016-04-15T03:24:53 < Laurenceb_> dank rituals
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2016-04-15T03:42:05 < kakimir> nobody said that
2016-04-15T03:42:17 < kakimir> god..
2016-04-15T03:46:12 < kakimir> http://i.imgur.com/xlJS1Py.gifv
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2016-04-15T04:15:59 < kakimir> https://youtu.be/sgPvoMR-aZo?t=31s I can't stop laughin
2016-04-15T04:18:05 < kakimir> somebody asking real questions
2016-04-15T04:23:20 < dongs> Sync: wow
2016-04-15T04:23:24 < dongs> 3ns is a lot, no?
2016-04-15T04:23:57 < dongs> certainly seems more than just propagation delay to route it around the die
2016-04-15T04:24:09 < dongs> R2COM: yeah sounds typical. for that IC layout trash right?
2016-04-15T04:24:22 < dongs> thats why you run it using VNC
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2016-04-15T04:25:31 < dongs> R2COM: see sync's blog above
2016-04-15T04:25:40 < dongs> R2COM: why would remapped timer peripherals be 3ns delayed
2016-04-15T04:25:46 < dongs> when are on thier altenrative pins
2016-04-15T04:25:54 < dongs> i just summarized it
2016-04-15T04:26:05 < dongs> 3ns is a lot of delay to just send shit to anothner pin
2016-04-15T04:26:11 < dongs> what do you think happens?
2016-04-15T04:27:29 < dongs> timers are
2016-04-15T04:27:55 < dongs> R2COM: yaeh but if all you're doing is rerouting a signal from one pin to another
2016-04-15T04:28:19 < dongs> what could contribute to 3ns, thats a lot to just turn electrons around from one place to another on a 3mm^2 die
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2016-04-15T04:32:38 < dongs> right, i'd expect ps-range delay
2016-04-15T04:32:41 < dongs> but not ns
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2016-04-15T05:10:11 < dongs> the real stealth one looks like a new OS install
2016-04-15T05:11:47 < dongs> meanwhile in japan http://i.imgur.com/1DWXDjk.png
2016-04-15T05:12:40 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/j7tGb2E.jpg
2016-04-15T05:13:01 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1968200734/wave-goodbye-to-cyberbullies-and-trolls-socialauto
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2016-04-15T05:34:34 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBDGfvXUeVs
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2016-04-15T05:39:25 < ReadError> ooo
2016-04-15T05:39:31 < ReadError> stealth update?
2016-04-15T05:39:32 < ReadError> tell me more
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2016-04-15T06:10:33 < dongs> doesnt seem funny
2016-04-15T06:11:21 < dongs> i cant believe the faggot games are top rental
2016-04-15T06:12:01 < dongs> whatever place those statistics are coming from must be only allowing tasteless losers in
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2016-04-15T06:12:34 < dongs> probably the only thing worse than faggot games franchise is pulp fiction
2016-04-15T06:12:59 < dongs> your link
2016-04-15T06:13:13 < dongs> "top rentals" sidebar
2016-04-15T06:13:14 < ReadError> http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/first-look-scarlett-johansson-ghost-shell
2016-04-15T06:13:16 < dongs> yes I know, you're late
2016-04-15T06:13:29 < dongs> ReadError: dont link to fat tasteless cunts tahnks.
2016-04-15T06:13:34 < ReadError> haha
2016-04-15T06:13:46 < dongs> er, talentless
2016-04-15T06:13:49 < dongs> but that too
2016-04-15T06:14:02 < dongs> ohsix: < dongs> meanwhile in japan http://i.imgur.com/1DWXDjk.png
2016-04-15T06:14:03 < dongs> that
2016-04-15T06:14:11 < ReadError> oh damn
2016-04-15T06:14:12 < dongs> but tv asahi for some fucking reason a/v watermarked it.
2016-04-15T06:14:14 < ReadError> did he make it down?
2016-04-15T06:14:19 < dongs> no
2016-04-15T06:14:21 < dongs> i took it out
2016-04-15T06:14:34 < ReadError> he died?
2016-04-15T06:14:56 < dongs> ReadError: nope, shot with tranquilizer which it removed in like 5 seconds
2016-04-15T06:15:01 < dongs> then touched HV wire and fell down
2016-04-15T06:15:10 < ReadError> damn
2016-04-15T06:15:14 < dongs> but apparently is ok
2016-04-15T06:15:18 < ReadError> ahh good
2016-04-15T06:15:22 < dongs> fell down into jap nets
2016-04-15T06:15:26 < dongs> that they wre setting up below
2016-04-15T06:15:30 < ReadError> how the fuck do you just have apes walking the streets
2016-04-15T06:15:38 < dongs> escaped from zoo or somethin
2016-04-15T06:15:41 < ReadError> or monkeys
2016-04-15T06:17:59 < dongs> man
2016-04-15T06:18:04 < dongs> this WD purple is awful
2016-04-15T06:18:32 < ReadError> dongs WD RE are great
2016-04-15T06:18:36 < ReadError> if you need spinnydisk
2016-04-15T06:18:42 < ReadError> fast and reliable
2016-04-15T06:19:00 < Thorn> how old is this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs9WsTKOMmo
2016-04-15T06:19:14 < Thorn> >Yes, I do work at Bell Labs, I manage the ASIC design team.
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2016-04-15T06:43:47 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Xiaomi-Mi-Pad-Tablet-64GB-Mipad-7-9-inch-2048-1536-Tegra-K1-Quad-Core-2GB/1986585_32636481854.html
2016-04-15T06:43:54 < ReadError> looks quite nice for the price
2016-04-15T06:44:09 < dongs> lol, uses apple panel
2016-04-15T06:44:28 < ReadError> lol really?
2016-04-15T06:44:33 < ReadError> noticed the res was familiar
2016-04-15T06:44:39 < dongs> ReadError: yea, nobody else makes 1536x2048 7.9
2016-04-15T06:44:44 < dongs> its all LG / samsung panels
2016-04-15T06:44:46 < dongs> from jewpad
2016-04-15T06:44:55 < ReadError> damn
2016-04-15T06:45:00 < ReadError> so thats a pretty solid display then
2016-04-15T06:45:06 < dongs> yes, it looks nice on my adapter
2016-04-15T07:01:40 < ReadError> the mi pad 2 is pretty dope
2016-04-15T07:01:43 < ReadError> atom + win10
2016-04-15T07:01:47 < ReadError> same display
2016-04-15T07:01:57 < ReadError> ~170
2016-04-15T07:02:55 < ReadError> usb c charging
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2016-04-15T07:23:46 < ReadError> dongs has some uber gfx card setup?
2016-04-15T07:24:00 < ReadError> need big balls to push that 4k
2016-04-15T07:25:20 < ReadError> could be drivers ya
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2016-04-15T07:28:46 < dongs> caught crt trolling in stonertronics
2016-04-15T07:28:49 < dongs> what an asshole
2016-04-15T07:30:18 < ReadError> on the efnets?
2016-04-15T07:43:44 < ReadError> so just a shitty game engine
2016-04-15T07:50:47 < dongs> getting 10meg/sec reads from this WD purple
2016-04-15T07:50:49 < dongs> absolutely awful
2016-04-15T07:51:14 < dongs> on a sequential file no less
2016-04-15T07:53:17 < ReadError> thats like a stupid low end drive right?
2016-04-15T07:53:21 < ReadError> made for slow constant writes
2016-04-15T07:53:37 < ReadError> 10MB/s sounds like its about dead
2016-04-15T07:53:42 < ReadError> yes
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2016-04-15T07:55:06 < winsoff> THIS CHANNEL IS PUBLICLY GAY
2016-04-15T07:55:12 < dongs> no way
2016-04-15T07:55:20 < dongs> it also says "no pumping" in the topic
2016-04-15T07:55:22 < dongs> so why are you here?
2016-04-15T07:55:44 < winsoff> Ah, fuck.  I knew it.
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2016-04-15T08:02:37 < dongs> went to 100megs for a bit then back down
2016-04-15T08:02:43 < dongs> now at 55
2016-04-15T08:03:16 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/rl5We1s.png i am
2016-04-15T08:03:22 < dongs> im watching this shit like paint drying
2016-04-15T08:04:36 < dongs> i'm writing to it at 25mbit
2016-04-15T08:04:39 < dongs> constant
2016-04-15T08:04:43 < dongs> but reads shouldnt fluctuate THAT bad
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2016-04-15T08:06:27 < ReadError> these new flash drives are pretty snappy
2016-04-15T08:06:34 < ReadError> the 128GB very useful
2016-04-15T08:09:36 < dongs> they actually get faster
2016-04-15T08:09:38 < dongs> with larger sized.
2016-04-15T08:09:47 < dongs> like same series on amazon that was linekd few days ago
2016-04-15T08:09:56 < dongs> 16/32 gb one speed, 64,128gb was like 30meg faster
2016-04-15T08:10:01 < dongs> 100 vs 130 reads or soemthign
2016-04-15T08:11:59 < ReadError> yea this is ~130
2016-04-15T08:12:21 < ReadError> has the little micro usb thing for OTG too
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2016-04-15T09:52:34 < ReadError> ohsix seen nzb for 60 days in?
2016-04-15T09:52:41 < ReadError> the one that aired tonight
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2016-04-15T10:12:38 < ReadError> ahh not started yet
2016-04-15T10:12:47 < ReadError> been watchin that "The Girlfriend Experience" or w/e
2016-04-15T10:13:09 < ReadError> ehhhhh
2016-04-15T10:13:14 < ReadError> well its getting kinda crazy
2016-04-15T10:13:23 < ReadError> need to see where it goes
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2016-04-15T10:15:59 < ReadError> nah
2016-04-15T10:16:58 < ReadError> is there an nzb w/ every ep?
2016-04-15T10:17:40 < ReadError> 720
2016-04-15T10:20:02 < ReadError> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/15/south_korea_to_upgrade_national_stereo_system_at_cost_of_us16m/
2016-04-15T10:20:03 < ReadError> lol
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2016-04-15T10:31:27 < ReadError> of which?
2016-04-15T10:37:32 < ReadError> what is it? a bunch of synths?
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2016-04-15T11:23:21 < Sync> dongs: I can accept 3ns for delay shits through the matrix
2016-04-15T11:23:27 < Sync> that sounds reasonable imho
2016-04-15T11:30:26 < mitrax> Who dares summon me?!
2016-04-15T11:30:33 < mitrax> oh err... nm
2016-04-15T11:31:24 < zyp> dongs, heh, norwegian news is all over yesterday's earthquake
2016-04-15T11:31:38 < dongs> why do tehy even care
2016-04-15T11:32:21 < qyx> earthquaqe on .no?
2016-04-15T11:32:23 < qyx> in
2016-04-15T11:32:52 < zyp> qyx, no, earthquake in dongland
2016-04-15T11:33:01 < qyx> aha, because http://earthquaketrack.com/p/norway/recent
2016-04-15T11:33:03 < zyp> dongs, idk
2016-04-15T11:33:34 < zyp> qyx, yeah, norway doesn't really have earthquakes
2016-04-15T11:33:55 < mitrax> crt: uncle bob bit his foot off
2016-04-15T11:34:59 < mitrax> was searching for it, all i could find was the 6.2 mag earthquake in 2012 in the svalbard islands
2016-04-15T11:35:32 < zyp> dongs, obtw, I tested the new arcin batch yesterday
2016-04-15T11:36:13 < zyp> there were two boards that for some reason were missing one of the XH connectors, and one board that had a solder bridge between two pins on the stm
2016-04-15T11:36:30 < zyp> the remaining 115 boards passed all tests
2016-04-15T11:37:01 < dongs> crt, closest reactor is like 500km away
2016-04-15T11:37:08 < dongs> nobody there even felt it or gave a fuck
2016-04-15T11:37:15 < zyp> I think this is the first batch without a single board where the usb connector is soldered wrong
2016-04-15T11:37:28 < dongs> zyp, congrats
2016-04-15T11:37:47 < zyp> how's parts for the other shit?
2016-04-15T11:37:54 < dongs> well, they were supposed to be here today
2016-04-15T11:37:57 < dongs> if it wasnt for shitquake
2016-04-15T11:38:00 < zyp> haha
2016-04-15T11:38:06 < dongs> now im not sure where  they are
2016-04-15T11:38:14 < zyp> which parts were missing?
2016-04-15T11:38:20 < dongs> the 27.17mhz xtal
2016-04-15T11:38:23 < zyp> ah
2016-04-15T11:38:27 < dongs> or whatever mhz it was
2016-04-15T11:38:35 < dongs> oddball thing that I dont normally stokc
2016-04-15T11:38:42 < zyp> 13.56*2
2016-04-15T11:39:05 < zyp> so 27.12
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2016-04-15T11:47:32 < mitrax> meanwhile, in slovenia... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUQFDT70hU
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2016-04-15T11:48:01 < mitrax> zyp: nice voice
2016-04-15T11:48:33 < zyp> nice what?
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2016-04-15T12:42:35 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/irtoXvc.png meanwhile in japan
2016-04-15T12:43:16 < zyp> nice
2016-04-15T12:43:32 < zyp> will be fixed tomorrow, right? :p
2016-04-15T12:43:45 < zyp> shit like that will take forever to be fixed over here
2016-04-15T12:43:57 < dongs> hopefully, i have to drive over that trash tomrorwo
2016-04-15T12:44:49 < zyp> there were an article last week
2016-04-15T12:44:59 < zyp> about a landslide that happened in december
2016-04-15T12:45:03 < dongs> heh
2016-04-15T12:45:04 < zyp> and shit is still not fixed
2016-04-15T12:45:20 < zyp> http://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/_-betenkeleg-at-det-har-teke-sa-lang-tid-1.12892071
2016-04-15T12:45:51 < dongs> lol @ that guys pic with neclace of crap
2016-04-15T12:46:13 < zyp> mayor of some place
2016-04-15T12:46:22 < zyp> all mayors have that shit
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2016-04-15T12:49:38 < jpa-> zyp: i think they still haven't fixed all the damage from finland's 2011 earthquake: https://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/lp/8kv/hggt/3175/880611124.jpg
2016-04-15T12:49:50 < mitrax> ahahah
2016-04-15T12:51:02 < karlp> still on quakes are we? http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes
2016-04-15T12:51:17 < karlp> no stars on the map today though, boring.
2016-04-15T12:52:59 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/7woWnRy.png meanwhile in best korea
2016-04-15T12:55:27 < Sync> best kim
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2016-04-15T12:59:27 < dongs> laucnhed some failed missile again
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2016-04-15T13:02:38 < zyp> oh, norwegian PM visited the korean border today
2016-04-15T13:02:40 < zyp> http://ap.mnocdn.no/incoming/article8431078.ece/ALTERNATES/w1440c169/OPT_tb0ea3a9_doc6pav56c4wao19k2lozy_doc6pav7i1h9s7wg1nkd0e-Yge5EloqnQ.jpg?updated=150420160808
2016-04-15T13:03:09 < dongs> lol @ those 2 guys lookin through teh back window
2016-04-15T13:03:19 < zyp> that's north koreans
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2016-04-15T13:07:42 < Sync> I like the swagmaster aviators the SK guys wear
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2016-04-15T13:39:16 < Thorn> http://blog.adacore.com/porting-the-ada-runtime-to-a-new-arm-board
2016-04-15T13:40:25 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/HonestJauntyBlackfish oops
2016-04-15T13:43:15 < ReadError> do the traffic lights blink really fast there?
2016-04-15T13:44:01 < Ecco> Hi :)
2016-04-15T13:44:32 < Ecco> Regarding that STM32 on lipo cell thing
2016-04-15T13:44:47 < Ecco> What's the proper way to know, in the STM32, how the battery is charged?
2016-04-15T13:45:09 < PeterM> ecco like read battery voltage?
2016-04-15T13:45:09 < Ecco> The first thing that comes to mind is using an analog pin, measure the voltage of the battery, and try to work something out based on that
2016-04-15T13:45:24 < Ecco> but the discharge curve is so flat that I'm afraid this will give terrible results
2016-04-15T13:45:48 < PeterM> thats basically the only realistic way
2016-04-15T13:45:51 < Ecco> ok
2016-04-15T13:45:57 < Ecco> Is that how it's usually done?
2016-04-15T13:45:58 < Sync> you can do coulomb measuring
2016-04-15T13:46:07 < Sync> but battery gas gauging sucks balls
2016-04-15T13:46:21 < Ecco> Wouldn't the charging IC know how much current it has pumped into the battery?
2016-04-15T13:46:26 < Ecco> I thought I could just ask the charging IC
2016-04-15T13:46:31 < PeterM> Sync, yeah, and he is doing if for a relatively low power device, so it would be hard to accurately measure
2016-04-15T13:47:26 < Sync> Ecco: then you have to know the charging efficiency of your battery
2016-04-15T13:48:25 < Ecco> Sync: What would that be?
2016-04-15T13:50:30 < Sync> do you expect that you can get all of the charge you put into the battery to come out again?
2016-04-15T13:50:48 < Ecco> well, I guess as always: theoretically yes, in practice no
2016-04-15T13:50:57 < Ecco> the battery most likely has an internal resistance
2016-04-15T13:51:07 < Ecco> and will dissipate some energy on the way back
2016-04-15T13:51:08 < Ecco> right?
2016-04-15T13:51:15 < Ecco> ok, I see
2016-04-15T13:52:06 < Ecco> So how is it done, usually? On a low-consumption device, is reading the battery voltage my best bet?
2016-04-15T13:52:16 < Thorn> take 10 million adc measurements and average them to get better resolution
2016-04-15T13:52:26 < Ecco> Because a 0.1V difference could mean like a 50% difference in terms of charge :-/
2016-04-15T13:52:32 < Sync> it depends on the quality of the gauge you want
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2016-04-15T13:52:46 < Ecco> Sync: I don't need anything crazy
2016-04-15T13:52:47 < dongs> with a high resistance voltage divider you're gonna have to have your adc reading really slow
2016-04-15T13:52:54 < Ecco> I'd just like to do something that doesn't suck
2016-04-15T13:53:20 < Ecco> dongs: I didn't understand what you just said
2016-04-15T13:53:48 < dongs> o wait
2016-04-15T13:53:57 < dongs> nah you still need one
2016-04-15T13:53:59 < dongs> cuz > 3.3VB
2016-04-15T13:54:01 < zyp> you can get chips that measures the battery
2016-04-15T13:54:03 < dongs> so yeah, like 1M/whatever
2016-04-15T13:54:11 < dongs> but not 10k:/wahtever
2016-04-15T13:54:16 < dongs> or else it'll drain battery
2016-04-15T13:54:42 < Ecco> Ok, so correct me if I got things wrong
2016-04-15T13:54:45 < zyp> which keeps track of how it behaves during charging/discharging to calculate capacity better than what you'd get from a plain voltage reading
2016-04-15T13:54:56 < Sync> dongs: tell me how many dolans you want in your paypal and buy me dem loads
2016-04-15T13:54:56 < Thorn> disconnect the divider with a logic level mosfet
2016-04-15T13:55:00 < zyp> voltage alone is not a good indicator of state of charge
2016-04-15T13:55:16 < Ecco> zyp: That's pretty much what I thought when looking at the discharge curve
2016-04-15T13:55:30 < ReadError> http://i.snag.gy/NyU6M.jpg
2016-04-15T13:55:34 < ReadError> how to make disappear dongs?
2016-04-15T13:55:40 < ReadError> this shit seems useless
2016-04-15T13:55:41 < Ecco> dongs: So corret me if I got things wrong : you mean that the battery voltage being greater than 3.3V I need to divide it before feeding it into the ADC?
2016-04-15T13:55:54 < zyp> http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/power-management/battery-fuel-gauge-products.page <- that's why you have shit like this
2016-04-15T13:55:55 < dongs> yeah unless you want to fry the adc
2016-04-15T13:56:04 < Ecco> got it
2016-04-15T13:56:26 < Ecco> zyp: Oh, I see
2016-04-15T13:56:45 < Ecco> So basically, either I do poor man's solution and try to work something out based on the voltage
2016-04-15T13:56:49 < Ecco> or I use a dedicated IC
2016-04-15T13:57:29 < Ecco> How would that IC work, by the way? Does it only measure tension or does it also measure the current getting in and out of the battery?
2016-04-15T13:57:41 < zyp> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq27320.pdf
2016-04-15T13:59:01 < zyp> looks like it measures both voltage and current
2016-04-15T13:59:25 < zyp> and like I said it's learning how the battery performs
2016-04-15T14:00:47 < zyp> hmm, would be neat if they had some that combined charging and tracking
2016-04-15T14:02:20 < zyp> oh, they have some shit that's designed to work together: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq27532-g1.pdf
2016-04-15T14:03:47 < zyp> anyway, if I needed to know remaining battery capacity accuretely in a project, I'd use something like that
2016-04-15T14:05:21 < dongs> http://gfycat.com/DevotedImaginativeDeinonychus
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2016-04-15T14:07:57 < zyp> got a new pet?
2016-04-15T14:10:24 < tecdroid> ouch!
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2016-04-15T14:49:29 < Laurenceb> lul https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/04/14/2124234/report-feds-to-ban-theranos-founder-elizabeth-holmes-for-2-years
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2016-04-15T15:08:32 < Laurenceb> wtf their main developer killed himself cuz "it's never going to work"
2016-04-15T15:09:05 < mitrax> ?
2016-04-15T15:09:34 < karlp> who the fuck is theranos and why do we care?
2016-04-15T15:09:42 < Laurenceb> cuz lulz
2016-04-15T15:09:44 < Laurenceb> nvm then
2016-04-15T15:10:19 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/T0e5ne0.jpg
2016-04-15T15:10:36  * karlp hi5s peterm
2016-04-15T15:10:47 < Laurenceb> I lolld so I dont care
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2016-04-15T15:14:12 < Thorn> is dsp56xxx still alive?
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2016-04-15T16:00:04 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/hxc1xxt
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2016-04-15T16:16:30 < kakimir> http://imgur.com/a/VZQXk
2016-04-15T16:17:06 < kakimir> bicycle fashion year 2016
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2016-04-15T16:18:10 < upgrdman_> those names look italian right?
2016-04-15T16:18:16 < upgrdman_> wonder if bikes are popular there
2016-04-15T16:18:32 < upgrdman_> in so cal, only people who cant drive bike, so i could totally see us fucks not knowing how to draw one
2016-04-15T16:22:11 < upgrdman_> when i see an adult on a bike, unless they look like an athlete type of person, i tend to think "haha, poor fuck got a DUI"
2016-04-15T16:23:29 < kakimir> there is some elders here that ride over 10km to grocery store
2016-04-15T16:23:54 < upgrdman_> your in .fi ?
2016-04-15T16:24:04 < kakimir> there is no bike roads
2016-04-15T16:24:08 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-15T16:24:12 < upgrdman_> isnt .fi like permafrost or someshit?
2016-04-15T16:24:27 < kakimir> I see them ridin all way to december
2016-04-15T16:24:33 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-15T16:24:37 < upgrdman_> damn
2016-04-15T16:24:53 < kakimir> and their bikes are some 80s legacy
2016-04-15T16:24:56 < upgrdman_> i get pissed off if temps go below 18C
2016-04-15T16:25:09 < kakimir> sure - why wouldn't you
2016-04-15T16:25:12 < upgrdman_> fucking biking in like -C
2016-04-15T16:25:56 < upgrdman_> brb
2016-04-15T16:26:30 < kakimir> I did 60km starting from 0C water-snow rain to -30 killer cold
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2016-04-15T16:48:56 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/GtOMSu6
2016-04-15T16:48:58 < Laurenceb> truth
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2016-04-15T16:54:44 < upgrdman> hi
2016-04-15T16:55:21 < mitrax> like what?
2016-04-15T16:56:17 < upgrdman> not when im in cn
2016-04-15T16:56:19 < mitrax> hi crt
2016-04-15T16:56:31 < upgrdman> would take a week to upload if i tried
2016-04-15T16:56:32 < mitrax> oh right
2016-04-15T16:56:54 < mitrax> crt: i have a false arm
2016-04-15T16:58:02 < Laurenceb> http://lolworthy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/whys-there-a-white-guy-playing-an-egyptian.jpg
2016-04-15T16:58:44 < mitrax> crt: i'm a one armed duck fucker :(
2016-04-15T16:59:10 < mitrax> Laurenceb: ahaha
2016-04-15T16:59:54 < upgrdman> heh reminds me of that weird "would you quack like a duck when we fuck" video
2016-04-15T17:00:12 < mitrax> crt: have you seen kung pow?
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2016-04-15T17:01:25 < kakimir> Laurenceb: is that true?
2016-04-15T17:01:35  * upgrdman nods
2016-04-15T17:02:29 < kakimir> where did current germans come from?
2016-04-15T17:02:36 < Laurenceb> yes
2016-04-15T17:02:44 < Laurenceb> we wuz kangz
2016-04-15T17:03:54 < Laurenceb> 8chan goes for a walk http://imgur.com/tqJQE5Q
2016-04-15T17:04:17 < kakimir> brit world domination never seizes
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2016-04-15T17:21:08 < karlp> is that egyptian same guy from mr robot?
2016-04-15T17:23:57 < zyp> looks like it
2016-04-15T17:27:29 < karlp> those bikes were cool though,
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2016-04-15T17:34:07 < Laurenceb> http://www.acam.de/products/time-to-digital-converter/tdc-gp21/
2016-04-15T17:42:19 < mervaka> hmm
2016-04-15T17:42:53 < mervaka> anyone hot on the advanced-control timers?
2016-04-15T17:43:00 < mervaka> TIM1/TIM8 on 103
2016-04-15T17:43:18 < mervaka> trying to suss out exactly how i can use the reload reg
2016-04-15T17:44:36 < mervaka> i need to in effect extend the timer to 24 bits, and generate periodic interrupts
2016-04-15T17:45:28 < mervaka> but i'm not sure the UP interrupt really cares about whether RCR is nonzero or not
2016-04-15T17:47:03 < Laurenceb> sounds a bit tricky
2016-04-15T17:47:13 < Laurenceb> extend timer using interrupts?
2016-04-15T17:47:36 < Laurenceb> on F4 you can effectivly join two timers together to get 32 bits
2016-04-15T17:47:49 < Laurenceb> cant remember if F1 can do that sorry lol
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2016-04-15T17:50:31 < mervaka> not extending the timer using interrupts
2016-04-15T17:51:34 < mervaka> was hoping that setting RCR would stop an interrupt happening
2016-04-15T17:51:55 < mervaka> which i was hoping would give me a few more bits to my timer
2016-04-15T17:52:27 < mervaka> then again, i think it just counts the number of times it reloads whatever period i've set.
2016-04-15T17:52:40 < mervaka> so maybe i should just change my prescaler and drop precision
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2016-04-15T20:23:19 < Laurenceb> where can I find vector tables?
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2016-04-15T20:27:40 < mitrax> Laurenceb: reference manual?
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2016-04-15T20:28:19 < Laurenceb> ah
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2016-04-15T20:28:32 < mitrax> F4?
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2016-04-15T20:30:19 < Laurenceb> F103
2016-04-15T20:30:26 < Laurenceb> its ok I've found it
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2016-04-15T20:30:43 < Laurenceb> I was worried my interrupts were missing, but they are there is the disassembly
2016-04-15T20:30:53 < Laurenceb> for some reason my I2C interrupts are never called
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2016-04-15T20:33:40 < Laurenceb> perplexing
2016-04-15T20:37:25 < Laurenceb> nothing on the bus
2016-04-15T20:37:30 < Laurenceb> wumting wong
2016-04-15T20:38:08 < Laurenceb> start condition is programmed but never sent on the bus
2016-04-15T20:39:00 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/QuerulousEnragedGannet RIP japan v2
2016-04-15T20:39:23 < Laurenceb> i hate i2c
2016-04-15T20:39:28 < Laurenceb> it refuses to work
2016-04-15T20:40:27 < mitrax> dongs: that was 1h ago? damn
2016-04-15T20:40:36 < dongs> and 24 hours ago last time
2016-04-15T20:40:54 < mitrax> what magnitude this time?
2016-04-15T20:41:18 < dongs> 7.1-ish
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2016-04-15T20:42:30 < gxti> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20005iis
2016-04-15T20:43:01 < Laurenceb> anyone want to come up with some ideas for what could be wrong with my i2c?
2016-04-15T20:43:06 < Laurenceb> I'm out of ideas
2016-04-15T20:44:09 < mitrax> Laurenceb: what state is the bus? it's not stuck low or something?
2016-04-15T20:44:17 < Laurenceb> nope its logic high
2016-04-15T20:44:23 < Laurenceb> and bit banging works
2016-04-15T20:44:34 < Laurenceb> same  code works on other boards
2016-04-15T20:44:40 < Laurenceb> same i2c code
2016-04-15T20:45:58 < mitrax> Laurenceb: and you sure you're not disabling the I2C peripheral clock or reconfiguring the I2C pin accidentally somewhere else in your code?
2016-04-15T20:46:35 < Laurenceb> hmm good idea
2016-04-15T20:46:38 < Laurenceb> grep time
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2016-04-15T20:47:09 < bvernoux> Laurenceb: Do a check on the whole code with CppCheck
2016-04-15T20:47:35 < bvernoux> especially for buffer overflow potential problems ...
2016-04-15T20:47:56 < Laurenceb> that seems unlikely to cause start not to be sent
2016-04-15T20:51:01 < Laurenceb> maybe its related to the changes I've made
2016-04-15T20:51:42 < Laurenceb> only changes seem to be here http://pastie.org/10799087
2016-04-15T20:51:50 < Laurenceb> is the remap on line 8 ok
2016-04-15T20:52:36 < Laurenceb>  (the interrupts get enabled later)
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2016-04-15T20:57:39 < mitrax> Laurenceb: not familiar with stdperiph, i'm using the new HAL shit, dongs would know
2016-04-15T20:57:44 < Laurenceb> ok
2016-04-15T20:57:59 < Laurenceb> not sure if i can remap in that order
2016-04-15T20:58:05 < Laurenceb> I'll check some of my other projects
2016-04-15T20:58:15 < mitrax> well it seems weird that you would remap *before* init
2016-04-15T20:58:50 < mitrax> hrm .. actually no
2016-04-15T20:58:54 < Laurenceb> aha
2016-04-15T20:59:04 < mitrax> the terminology is weird though
2016-04-15T20:59:04 < Laurenceb> on previous working stuff i remapped befor einit
2016-04-15T20:59:16 < Laurenceb> might be it... will try after some food
2016-04-15T20:59:33 < mitrax> what's for dinner?
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2016-04-15T21:02:23 < Laurenceb> cornish pasty
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2016-04-15T21:14:25 < Laurenceb> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2016-04-15--17-43-45-DL7AD-56DE.jpeg?u=334
2016-04-15T21:14:29 < Laurenceb> ssdv blofeld
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2016-04-15T21:15:29 < englishman> academikitty?
2016-04-15T21:16:03 < Laurenceb> it appears to be F4 based  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/DL7AD/pecan-stm32f429/master/doc/targets/pecanpico7a.jpg
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2016-04-15T22:08:02 < Laurenceb> fixed it
2016-04-15T22:08:05 < Laurenceb> it was the remap
2016-04-15T22:08:28 < mitrax> ah :)
2016-04-15T22:13:02 < mitrax> Laurenceb: it had to be done after init ?
2016-04-15T22:13:18 < Laurenceb> remap before clocking the peripheral
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2016-04-16T00:27:01 < kakimir> does all brits have like academic jobs in some labs and stuff?
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2016-04-16T00:30:34 < kakimir> http://imgur.com/r/EngineeringPorn/23SBRMC oh my
2016-04-16T00:36:50 < mitrax> concept cars are silly
2016-04-16T00:37:58 < kakimir> why they cant like
2016-04-16T00:38:08 < kakimir> do the future car instead of silly concepts
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2016-04-16T00:42:55 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKRHhRTHJ6Z3loMmM/view?usp=sharing lathe didnt have drill tool so drill hole failed and was misplaced along the way
2016-04-16T00:43:43 < kakimir> also cut section of one flat for lock screw hole failed a little
2016-04-16T00:43:58 < mitrax> 'lathe master' you said? :p
2016-04-16T00:44:24 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-16T00:44:28 < kakimir> but drill noob
2016-04-16T00:44:44 < kakimir> hate drills
2016-04-16T00:45:14 < kakimir> very easy to misplace and fail with it
2016-04-16T00:45:47 < Sync> nah
2016-04-16T00:46:13 < kakimir> drills are sloppy and stuff
2016-04-16T00:46:31 < kakimir> nothing keeps it's place in it
2016-04-16T00:47:20 < Sync> sure, the flute is non cutting
2016-04-16T00:47:39 < Sync> protip, use 4 angle ground drills
2016-04-16T00:48:04 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-16T00:49:48 < Sync> http://www.ama-maschinen.at/Bilder/bohrschleif/Bild%20Bohrer%20geschliffen%20und%20ausgespitzt.jpg
2016-04-16T00:50:33 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-16T00:50:55 < kakimir> I think you should always start with something like http://img.sellercube.com/Uploadfile/6/SKU084940/20130802111513401.JPG
2016-04-16T00:51:49 < Sync> not really
2016-04-16T00:52:11 < Sync> spot drills are nice but with 4 flute drill bits or nc drills it is not a problem
2016-04-16T00:52:33 < kakimir> I have all that round shiet
2016-04-16T00:52:38 < Laurenceb_> KANGZ
2016-04-16T00:56:55 < kakimir> what is flute
2016-04-16T01:17:49 < kakimir> what I was doing..
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2016-04-16T01:25:45 < kakimir> when I saw that concept car I needed to find something from my YT favourites
2016-04-16T01:27:19 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWx-vtCSg0w
2016-04-16T01:29:46 < kakimir> C-pop music video
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2016-04-16T01:34:04 < mitrax> C-poop ...
2016-04-16T01:38:40 < mitrax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxzgwJ8tSE0 muh bettah
2016-04-16T01:41:39 < kakimir> horrible thing
2016-04-16T01:41:43 < kakimir> horrible
2016-04-16T01:41:50 < mitrax> ahahah
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2016-04-16T01:55:35 < zyp> dongs, how noticeable was that shit from where you live?
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2016-04-16T01:57:48 < kakimir> what kind of shit is going down?
2016-04-16T01:58:16 < mitrax> earthquake
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2016-04-16T02:01:36 < englishman> pretty sure he dided
2016-04-16T02:01:58 < englishman> hopefully his kitty is ok
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2016-04-16T02:29:14 < jadew> what earthquake?
2016-04-16T02:30:56 < Laurenceb_> ur mum trod on the basement ceiling
2016-04-16T02:31:09 < mitrax> ahahaha
2016-04-16T02:32:52 < jadew> had to google "trod" but, yeah, funny
2016-04-16T02:34:06 < jadew> night
2016-04-16T02:35:40 < Laurenceb_> http://cannae.com/cannaes-superconducting-test-lab-is-up-and-running/
2016-04-16T02:35:54  * Laurenceb_ grabs popcorn
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2016-04-16T02:39:04 < dongs> found result of zyp's work before he quit SE https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/720714402949963778
2016-04-16T02:39:16 < dongs> zyp, not at all, more panic than anything
2016-04-16T02:39:42 < Laurenceb_> lul internet of shit
2016-04-16T02:40:11 < dongs> 4 dead from this round so far
2016-04-16T02:40:20 < dongs> 9 last time
2016-04-16T02:40:27 < Laurenceb_> mattress for lover detection wtf
2016-04-16T02:40:40 < Laurenceb_> just have display set to "forever alone lul u fail"
2016-04-16T02:41:16 < Laurenceb_> oh wait
2016-04-16T02:41:22 < Laurenceb_> its an anti cuck mattress
2016-04-16T02:41:27 < Laurenceb_>  /pol/ approves
2016-04-16T02:42:26 < Laurenceb_> talking of which https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TvpvRnXHxApmEselAfbgKtR0KEdA79PiCK-PVGGcGt96XFsvTAxXxVVJgxJey_yvt0I9OVupr_AjDYiPNZy4=w506-h380
2016-04-16T02:42:35 < Laurenceb_>  /pol/ is on suicide watch
2016-04-16T02:46:03 < Laurenceb_> they got cucked by their queen
2016-04-16T02:48:13 < Laurenceb_> attn crt  https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TvpvRnXHxApmEselAfbgKtR0KEdA79PiCK-PVGGcGt96XFsvTAxXxVVJgxJey_yvt0I9OVupr_AjDYiPNZy4=w506-h380
2016-04-16T02:48:30 < mitrax> crt: HI
2016-04-16T02:48:53 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-16T02:49:09 < mitrax> crt: yeah?
2016-04-16T02:49:40 < mitrax> crt: that's my shed
2016-04-16T02:50:18 < mitrax> crt: i have a false arm
2016-04-16T02:50:52 < mitrax> indeed
2016-04-16T02:51:23 < mitrax> Laurenceb: the girl looks like shoeonhead
2016-04-16T02:52:37 < mitrax> Laurenceb: that said, i don't get what's special about that picture
2016-04-16T02:53:40 < Laurenceb_> she is the queen of /pol/
2016-04-16T02:53:43 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/BI7v6Bc that's the latest rev
2016-04-16T02:54:16 < dongs> cool atx power supply
2016-04-16T02:54:32 < aandrew> atx power supply?
2016-04-16T02:54:34 < Laurenceb_> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/c/ca/Shoe0nheadisamudshark.png
2016-04-16T02:54:43 < Laurenceb_> ED has the full story as expected
2016-04-16T02:54:46 < dongs> o wait, i misjudged the scale
2016-04-16T02:54:51 < dongs> i thought that 2x12 connector was atx power
2016-04-16T02:56:09 < Laurenceb_> heh telit
2016-04-16T02:56:13 < Laurenceb_> enjoy the python
2016-04-16T02:56:39 < Laurenceb_> pumping in the cuck shed
2016-04-16T02:59:18 < kakimir> I pump in cow shields
2016-04-16T03:01:17 < Laurenceb_> too much info
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2016-04-16T03:05:14 < mitrax> bed time
2016-04-16T03:14:00 < zyp> dongs, SE != STE
2016-04-16T03:14:07 < dongs> oh okay
2016-04-16T03:15:05 < zyp> didn't even touch any SE-related projects, but I played a bit with a Sony prototype after Sony bought out SE
2016-04-16T03:17:17 < zyp> I remember it had a 1080p panel, which seemed kinda neat, since at the time there were no 1080p phones on the market yet
2016-04-16T03:17:39 < kakimir> pump dongs is alive
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2016-04-16T03:27:51 < Laurenceb_> "pump" is the new "cuck"
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2016-04-16T03:29:57 < kakimir> no no
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2016-04-16T04:41:42 < Rob235> what wifi module do you guys suggest
2016-04-16T04:42:52 < karlp> "module"?
2016-04-16T04:42:57 < karlp> what do you really want?
2016-04-16T04:43:05 < karlp> and where is the price pain?
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2016-04-16T04:44:05 < Rob235> don't care about price since I just need one.  its for an airmouse
2016-04-16T04:44:35 < karlp> just need one? buy an airmouse then...
2016-04-16T04:44:37 < Rob235> I was actually looking for something thats mcu + wifi like the adafruit feather
2016-04-16T04:44:48 < Rob235> you are boring :/
2016-04-16T04:44:54 < Rob235> I want to make my own
2016-04-16T04:45:39 < emeb> dongs: did the earth move for you today?
2016-04-16T05:03:48 < dongs> emeb, no
2016-04-16T05:03:54 < dongs> < dongs> https://gfycat.com/QuerulousEnragedGannet RIP japan v2
2016-04-16T05:06:40 < upgrdman> godzilla on the loose again
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2016-04-16T05:07:31 < dongs> yes
2016-04-16T05:08:10 < emeb> dongs: good to hear.
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2016-04-16T05:11:45 < upgrdman> hehe. watching some chinese propaganda on tv. talking about americas hypocrisy on human rights. showing clips of Black Lives Matter protests... lol
2016-04-16T05:12:11 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Design-simple-computer/
2016-04-16T05:12:27 < Laurenceb_> could be worse, they could have interviewed furries
2016-04-16T05:12:35 < Laurenceb_> how do i computer
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2016-04-16T05:38:20 < dongs> simplest computer in powerpoint
2016-04-16T05:38:24 < dongs> with VBA
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2016-04-16T05:42:23 < ReadError> ohsix any sign of 60 days in ?
2016-04-16T05:42:27 < ReadError> no updates on omgwtf
2016-04-16T05:42:29 < ReadError> nzb
2016-04-16T05:42:40 < dongs> don't you ever feel your head is going to start smoking from stuffing it all with this utterly useless information, autism6
2016-04-16T05:42:57 < dongs> its not like you'll eveer own a mac
2016-04-16T05:44:36 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-16T05:44:41 < ReadError> i own a mac
2016-04-16T05:45:22 < ReadError> new mobo supports thunderbolt
2016-04-16T05:45:31 < ReadError> wonder if theres anything kewl i can get
2016-04-16T05:45:44 < ReadError> think they have fiber adapters
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2016-04-16T06:11:21 < ReadError> <GarethTheGreat> my circadian rhythm has always been a cryptographically secure source of randomness
2016-04-16T06:11:29 < ReadError> asspie as fuck
2016-04-16T06:11:48 < ReadError> niggas cant talk in normal sentences
2016-04-16T06:12:17 < emeb_mac> attn R2COM -> https://twitter.com/FascinatingVids/status/713478075875459072
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2016-04-16T06:31:46 < dongs> rage2com
2016-04-16T07:04:11 < PeterM> [09:53] <aandrew> http://imgur.com/BI7v6Bc that's the latest rev - couldnt be bothered sperating NPTH and PTH ois ee.
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2016-04-16T07:10:48 < dongs> thats probably pro american fab
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2016-04-16T07:11:41 < PeterM> it could also be the lighting
2016-04-16T07:11:50 < dongs> you talkin about those lightpipe holes?
2016-04-16T07:12:05 < dongs> shit's def plated
2016-04-16T07:12:37 < dongs> thats a pretty packed board but most of hte passives are like 0805??
2016-04-16T07:12:39 < PeterM> even microst holes?
2016-04-16T07:12:47 < dongs> ya sd is plated too
2016-04-16T07:13:00 < dongs> or is that 0603
2016-04-16T07:13:49 < PeterM> i dunno but rando as fuck 2 tiny resistors about pushbutton
2016-04-16T07:14:54 < dongs> haha
2016-04-16T07:14:59 < dongs> hmm if those are 0402..
2016-04-16T07:15:03 < dongs> then yeah most of the shit is 0805
2016-04-16T07:15:26 < dongs> ive never seen 0603 Rs with 4-digit numbering
2016-04-16T07:15:35 < dongs> like 3300 etc
2016-04-16T07:36:08 < ReadError> I like how MS wont let you uninstall their worthless shit in win10
2016-04-16T07:36:18 < ReadError> xbox? I dont want/need that
2016-04-16T07:36:21 < ReadError> onedrive? gtfo
2016-04-16T07:39:52 < PeterM> ReadError, jsut dont install them i nthe first place?
2016-04-16T07:41:29 < PeterM> but also, iirc you can uninstall them from powershell
2016-04-16T07:57:33 < ReadError> PeterM theres no option to 'not install' though
2016-04-16T07:57:44 < ReadError> http://snag.gy/ALZkW.jpg
2016-04-16T07:57:49 < ReadError> im really not sure wtf to make of this
2016-04-16T07:58:01 < ReadError> craziest shit
2016-04-16T07:59:45 < ReadError> whys it 420blz on 2 and suck on the other 2?
2016-04-16T08:02:48 < ReadError> OneDrive is built into Windows 10, so you can’t uninstall it like an app. However, you can hide it and stop syncing OneDrive files to your PC. To do so, follow the steps in Turn off or uninstall OneDrive.
2016-04-16T08:02:52 < ReadError> lol POS
2016-04-16T08:03:00 < PeterM> ReadError, yes there is, its simple, dont use an edition that coems with all the shit built in
2016-04-16T08:04:59 < ReadError> PeterM im using enterprise
2016-04-16T08:05:10 < ReadError> why would an enterprise OS need fucking xbox stuff
2016-04-16T08:05:29 < PeterM> use enterprise N
2016-04-16T08:05:30 < PeterM> N
2016-04-16T08:05:32 < PeterM> NNNNNNN
2016-04-16T08:05:33 < PeterM> N
2016-04-16T08:05:37 < PeterM> no xbox
2016-04-16T08:07:05 < PeterM> also, use LTSB, that cuts out a bit of the bloat too
2016-04-16T08:07:10 < ReadError> why do i even need onedrive
2016-04-16T08:07:18 < ReadError> nobody wants their shitty dropbox clone
2016-04-16T08:07:39 < PeterM> if use LTSB no edgey browser or courtana
2016-04-16T08:07:45 < ReadError> oh ya
2016-04-16T08:07:47 < ReadError> fuck edge
2016-04-16T08:07:52 < ReadError> and cuntana
2016-04-16T08:08:53 < ReadError> is there some magical tool/powerhell script that unfucks everything in 1 go?
2016-04-16T08:09:02 < PeterM> so Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB N X64 is what you want, it is pre-unfucked
2016-04-16T08:09:36 < ReadError> http://i.snag.gy/NyU6M.jpg
2016-04-16T08:09:38 < PeterM> i think the only thing it has that i'd get rid of is ondrive, but im nto CERTAIN if it actualyl has
2016-04-16T08:09:39 < ReadError> this shit too
2016-04-16T08:09:46 < ReadError> is that really necessary ?
2016-04-16T08:09:55 < PeterM> enterprise n ltsb has npone of that
2016-04-16T08:10:03 < ReadError> i dont see a single useful thing there
2016-04-16T08:10:12 < ReadError> I will have to ask my pal if he can DL it for me then
2016-04-16T08:10:25 < ReadError> im not even in washington
2016-04-16T08:10:30 < ReadError> why the fuck is it giving me their weather
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2016-04-16T08:11:00 < ReadError> well it can stay
2016-04-16T08:11:12 < ReadError> just dont put a massive fuckin icon on the first page
2016-04-16T08:11:21 < ReadError> plus its xbox live
2016-04-16T08:11:27 < ReadError> i dont even have one ;/
2016-04-16T08:12:16 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/eKORNoy.png
2016-04-16T08:12:37 < PeterM> ???
2016-04-16T08:13:14 < ReadError> <GarethTheGreat> ReadError: that's because i am in fact an aspie, as are i would guess a very large % of freenode users
2016-04-16T08:13:18 < ReadError> lol dis guy responded
2016-04-16T08:13:40 < ReadError> <ReadError> <GarethTheGreat> my circadian rhythm has always been a cryptographically secure source of randomness
2016-04-16T08:13:40 < ReadError> <ReadError> this is assburgers as fuck
2016-04-16T08:17:03 < ReadError> eh he can keep on keeping on
2016-04-16T08:17:21 < ReadError> but whats the reason for trying to make super complex sentences
2016-04-16T08:17:43 < ReadError> you could just say "my sleep schedule has always been pretty random"
2016-04-16T08:18:41 < upgrdman> i just killed a big fly by squishing it with the cap of my coke bottle. i felt it pop. now i feel bad.
2016-04-16T08:18:54 < dongs> chinese fly
2016-04-16T08:18:59 < dongs> probably was caryying aids
2016-04-16T08:19:17 < dongs> stdout chinese fly
2016-04-16T08:19:18 < upgrdman> re: win10, where is that setting to reduce feedback going to msft?
2016-04-16T08:19:23 < upgrdman> dongs, prolly
2016-04-16T08:19:27 < dongs> upgrdman: dont worry bout it.
2016-04-16T08:19:30 < PeterM> upgrdman, its just as bad with mice when you step on them
2016-04-16T08:19:33 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-16T08:19:39 < ReadError> upgrdman I turned off ever slider
2016-04-16T08:19:41 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-16T08:19:43 < ReadError> but the shit still calls out
2016-04-16T08:19:55 < ReadError> Windows Firewall Control <--- best $5 spent
2016-04-16T08:20:04 < ReadError> unlimited computers
2016-04-16T08:20:23 < ReadError> i can activate it for you, just give me the # it generates
2016-04-16T08:21:41 < ReadError> ohsix it works unpaid
2016-04-16T08:21:51 < ReadError> but they add a few ease of use features
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2016-04-16T08:22:22 < ReadError> http://www.binisoft.org/wfc.php
2016-04-16T08:24:39 < upgrdman> i wish onenote had adjustable smoothing. shit way over smoothes pen strokes.
2016-04-16T08:30:49 < PeterM> so, how do you guys get rid of the eexcess oil from chnned tuna?
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2016-04-16T08:50:26 < ReadError> oh btw
2016-04-16T08:50:33 < ReadError> the.internet.ruined.my.life.s01e06.hdtv.x264-w4f.mkv
2016-04-16T08:50:40 < ReadError> hipster + typewriter episode
2016-04-16T08:51:04 < ReadError> got meme'd
2016-04-16T08:52:02 < ReadError> http://www.jessicafreyphotographyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/hipster-typewriter.jpg
2016-04-16T08:52:26 < PeterM> ReadError, hipsters are ripe for stereotyping, wiht their typewriters and all
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2016-04-16T09:44:35 < ReadError> http://i.snag.gy/J2eTY.jpg shhooowoooop
2016-04-16T09:44:44 < ReadError> use it all bish
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2016-04-16T11:41:24 < mitrax> moo
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2016-04-16T11:53:36 < mitrax> cornella stuff look like a  of cowboy henk
2016-04-16T11:53:48 < mitrax> err cornella stuff look like a cowboy henk ripoff
2016-04-16T11:54:26 < Fleck> ttp://imgur.com/KdPkvvP << anyone can explain 100mH inductor there? or how that part is called so I can look up some papers
2016-04-16T11:59:08 < Fleck> ok, let me google that, thanks
2016-04-16T12:02:17 < Fleck> welder
2016-04-16T12:03:17 < Fleck> but the problem is, if I remove that indcutor, I get nice waveform, when I connect it, waveform gets messed UP
2016-04-16T12:03:56 < Fleck> thou, it may be few more parts are to blame
2016-04-16T12:07:11 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/awVVpmN << w/o load (except what's on output, few diodes, resistors and caps)
2016-04-16T12:07:33 < Fleck> and w/o inductor connected...
2016-04-16T12:08:13 < Fleck> yep
2016-04-16T12:12:23 < Thorn> could it be a bootstrap circuit
2016-04-16T12:14:03 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/Wiw1znn << this is with inductor connected :D
2016-04-16T12:18:54 < Fleck> and connected/disconnected I mean - just one end lifted
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2016-04-16T12:20:39 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/0M3nweA << across indcutor
2016-04-16T12:28:45 < Fleck> [12:12:53] <ohsix> infineon has an app note on welding driver stage design << would you mind posting a link? Can't seem to find it
2016-04-16T12:47:50 < ReadError> lol you think keil is going to help you write code better?
2016-04-16T12:49:26 < ReadError> keil is pretty shitty really
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2016-04-16T12:50:10 < ReadError> sure the cornpiler is all great and official
2016-04-16T12:50:33 < ReadError> but a well setup eclipse enviroment is just as easy if not better
2016-04-16T12:51:41 < ReadError> well sure
2016-04-16T12:51:47 < ReadError> theres a lot of bloat/extra shit
2016-04-16T12:51:53 < ReadError> but if you put all that aside
2016-04-16T12:52:01 < ReadError> the plugins are useful
2016-04-16T12:52:19 < ReadError> makefile builds easy to setup
2016-04-16T12:52:52 < ReadError> after using it for a bit i prefer it
2016-04-16T12:53:31 < ReadError> keil
2016-04-16T12:54:38 < ReadError> the IDE part of keil?
2016-04-16T12:54:51 < ReadError> yea its pretty trash
2016-04-16T12:54:59 < ReadError> not very useful
2016-04-16T12:55:16 < ReadError> so the only thing keil has is the debugger/compiler
2016-04-16T12:55:25 < ReadError> and the little uvproj setup shit
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2016-04-16T12:55:45 < ReadError> but the debugging in eclipse is good if not better than keil's
2016-04-16T12:55:53 < ReadError> with the right plugins
2016-04-16T12:56:06 < ReadError> plus you have gdb console so you can still bang keys there
2016-04-16T12:56:13 < ReadError> or do it GUI style
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2016-04-16T13:00:03 < ReadError> also
2016-04-16T13:00:14 < ReadError> that 'virtual folder' shit in keil is pretty fucking dumb
2016-04-16T13:01:08 < ReadError> makefile is much easier too
2016-04-16T13:01:23 < ReadError> fuck adding all the includes and stuff through its shitty gui
2016-04-16T13:01:36 < ReadError> its horribly slow and painful
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2016-04-16T13:15:16 < ReadError> in youtube
2016-04-16T13:15:19 < ReadError> put mouse on video
2016-04-16T13:15:21 < ReadError> hit alt
2016-04-16T13:15:24 < ReadError> wtf is that blue box
2016-04-16T13:15:38 < ReadError> lo
2016-04-16T13:16:24 < ReadError> oh damn
2016-04-16T13:16:28 < ReadError> doom open beta weekend
2016-04-16T13:16:33 < ReadError> to gaymer or not to gaymer
2016-04-16T13:24:20 < Steffanx> Poor Crt. What Can We Do To Make It Good To You?
2016-04-16T13:24:22 < mitrax> crt: how much was keil?
2016-04-16T13:25:39 < Steffanx> Not even 0 ruble?
2016-04-16T13:25:55 < mitrax> damn
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2016-04-16T13:31:04 < jpa-> does anyone know a nice simple 2S li-ion charger that would handle all annoying things like balancing in one nice chip?
2016-04-16T13:33:18 < ReadError> http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/207899.html
2016-04-16T13:33:21 < ReadError> wtf
2016-04-16T13:33:41 < Fleck> ohsix: A good first choice is to make Cs equal to twice the sum of the output capacitance of the switch and the estimated mounting capacitance. << what's mounting capacitance?
2016-04-16T13:40:34 < ReadError> order't some of those stupid cheap skyworks charger ICs
2016-04-16T13:40:39 < ReadError> 44 sants a pap
2016-04-16T13:49:16 < ReadError> lol what
2016-04-16T13:49:26 < ReadError> i thought voice actors are typically like, old
2016-04-16T13:50:13 < Steffanx> Who is dora ohsix?
2016-04-16T13:50:22 < ReadError> spanish cartoon
2016-04-16T13:50:31 < ReadError> i duno how to spanish though
2016-04-16T13:50:56 < Steffanx> oh, wikipedia says mexican/america
2016-04-16T13:50:57 < Steffanx> n
2016-04-16T13:51:13 < Steffanx> Nickelodeon, Nick Jr., CBS there you go. I dont do those.
2016-04-16T13:51:56 < Steffanx> Aren't you way too old to watch that in the 90s?
2016-04-16T13:52:01 < Steffanx> *weren't
2016-04-16T13:52:31 < Steffanx> 40+ ohsix
2016-04-16T13:52:48 < Steffanx> 30+?
2016-04-16T13:53:03 < Steffanx> Im young crt
2016-04-16T13:53:31 < Steffanx> 13
2016-04-16T13:53:32 < mitrax> crt: could they notice ? :/
2016-04-16T13:53:49 < mitrax> you never know
2016-04-16T13:54:16 < mitrax> crt: how old is your ass?
2016-04-16T13:54:49 < mitrax> youngsters
2016-04-16T13:57:50 < Steffanx> browse imgur
2016-04-16T13:58:50 < Steffanx> http://imgur.com/
2016-04-16T14:01:17 < ReadError> how long do you all burn in new boxes for
2016-04-16T14:01:29 < mitrax> two years
2016-04-16T14:03:40 < ReadError> no pc
2016-04-16T14:04:16 < mitrax> ReadError: when that matters (servers and such) i do it for 24h it's always been enough to detect problems
2016-04-16T14:04:41 < ReadError> ive always noticed stability improvements
2016-04-16T14:04:48 < ReadError> specially if OC'ing
2016-04-16T14:05:16 < ReadError> it seems like freshly built, they arent as stable
2016-04-16T14:05:41 < ReadError> plus the whole failure graph stuff
2016-04-16T14:05:56 < ReadError> how something will fail right at the start
2016-04-16T14:06:06 < ReadError> then chances drop a shitload after
2016-04-16T14:06:21 < ReadError> yea I know that much
2016-04-16T14:06:25 < mitrax> ReadError: yeah but it's not like you improve stability or anything... either you detect a failure or you don't
2016-04-16T14:06:28 < ReadError> we burn it GPUs and stuff at work
2016-04-16T14:06:33 < ReadError> it=in
2016-04-16T14:06:46 < ReadError> the nvidia GPU cluster things
2016-04-16T14:15:28 < dongs> sup dongs
2016-04-16T14:15:32 < dongs> why is autism6 still awake
2016-04-16T14:23:42 < Steffanx> Why some of you are so obsessed with autism and co?
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2016-04-16T14:35:19 < upgrdman> gay
2016-04-16T14:35:34 < upgrdman> why ?
2016-04-16T14:35:49 < Steffanx> Total internet shutdown in aussieland?
2016-04-16T14:36:21 < upgrdman> time to hunt drop bears ?
2016-04-16T14:36:41 < Steffanx> i feel sorry for you
2016-04-16T14:36:50 < upgrdman> buzzkill
2016-04-16T14:37:26 < Steffanx> Real stm32 rpoject?
2016-04-16T14:38:02 < upgrdman> stm32 for the win
2016-04-16T14:38:24 < Steffanx> there is more in the world than stm32.
2016-04-16T14:38:41 < Steffanx> and pic32
2016-04-16T14:38:43 < upgrdman> blasphemy
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2016-04-16T14:41:15 < upgrdman> iirc eric b made a stm32 dev board with usb , were they for sale ?
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2016-04-16T14:42:20 < Steffanx> all you need is http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-/201529768817?hash=item2eec1c3b71:g:74YAAOSwZ8ZW5jfe upgrdman ?
2016-04-16T14:42:51 < upgrdman> crt: no it was a little stm32f0 board
2016-04-16T14:43:21 < upgrdman> no f1, no arduino
2016-04-16T14:43:35 < Steffanx> arduino?
2016-04-16T14:44:21 < upgrdman> oh ya just the url says arduino
2016-04-16T14:46:34 < Steffanx> Anyway, if you mean emeb upgrdman . He has a website he posts all his stuff on. Also probably not for sale.
2016-04-16T14:46:57 < upgrdman> oh ya him. ok
2016-04-16T14:47:00 < Steffanx> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/index.html
2016-04-16T14:47:27 < upgrdman> crt, problem is i now jave more money than time.
2016-04-16T14:48:19 < Steffanx> You skip the imgur browsing and you'll have plenty of time ;)
2016-04-16T14:49:49 < upgrdman> imgur is too slow in .cn
2016-04-16T14:50:12 < upgrdman> thats why i have not been posting the typical r/wtf pix
2016-04-16T14:50:28 < upgrdman> im on a vpn you faggot
2016-04-16T14:50:42 < upgrdman> nice try to drop my connectipn
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2016-04-16T14:51:16 < upgrdman> stunnel with psk, then openvpn with whatever shit it uses
2016-04-16T14:52:08 < upgrdman> openvpn uses some sort of pub key encryption iirc. o had to gereate a cert etc
2016-04-16T14:52:54 < upgrdman> ohsix, stunnel is config'd for psk only, and its the public facing part
2016-04-16T14:53:32 < upgrdman> hmmm
2016-04-16T15:01:40 < upgrdman> when is emeb typically in here?
2016-04-16T15:02:00 < dongs> not these times
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2016-04-16T15:06:35 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-16T15:06:50 < dongs> upgrdman: status of being permanently enslaved in china
2016-04-16T15:07:24 < dongs>  /part ##stm32
2016-04-16T15:08:01 < dongs> /cocks
2016-04-16T15:08:14 < upgrdman> in case anyone cares, eclipse neon m6 (a beta) finally supports display scaling. still very beta, but fuck yes. finally.
2016-04-16T15:08:24 < dongs> get better eyes
2016-04-16T15:09:00 < dongs> upgrdman: im at 150% on 12" 4K
2016-04-16T15:09:03 < dongs> and its perfectly usable
2016-04-16T15:09:08 < upgrdman> dongs, i get back to the 1st world in like 10ish days
2016-04-16T15:09:39 < dongs> oh okay
2016-04-16T15:09:40 < Steffanx> back to the trumpy madness
2016-04-16T15:09:56 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-16T15:10:05 < upgrdman> ohsix, everything. just text scaling has worked for a long time but then lots of shit was super small. no more, minus some beta bugs
2016-04-16T15:10:24 < Thorn> vote dongs for moderator
2016-04-16T15:10:52 < upgrdman> ohsix, i use a theme engine
2016-04-16T15:11:02 < upgrdman> my eclipse looks like this:
2016-04-16T15:11:22 < Steffanx> .
2016-04-16T15:11:24 < dongs> (dickbutt in every image)
2016-04-16T15:11:31 < dongs> er image->button
2016-04-16T15:11:46 < upgrdman> http://www.farrellf.com/temp/delta_sigma_adc_simulation3.png
2016-04-16T15:11:59 < upgrdman> ohsix^
2016-04-16T15:12:32 < Steffanx> such exception catching upgrdman :P
2016-04-16T15:12:45 < upgrdman> better view of tabs here http://www.farrellf.com/temp/delta_sigma_adc_simulation.png
2016-04-16T15:13:11 < upgrdman> steffanx, inorite :)
2016-04-16T15:14:37 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-16T15:14:51 < upgrdman> old version before dick scalingworked
2016-04-16T15:15:23 < upgrdman> so i had to write a manifest to tell windows to fake 1080p on my 4k for eclipse
2016-04-16T15:17:57 < dongs> looks boring
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2016-04-16T15:20:08 < mitrax> ohsix: somehow related ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9xXyw2f7g :)
2016-04-16T15:22:34 < mitrax> ohsix: there were other parts of this documentary where they showed animated mechanical stuff vs humanoid figures to human babies (a few weeks old), and measured attention span time for boys / girls, and the results were similar
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2016-04-16T15:25:31 < mitrax> ohsix: not to say women can't program or be good engineers, of course they can, but there's definitely something biological going on as to why there is so little interest among women for engineering / computer science in the first place... i'm tired of all the BS about the reason being mainly that "girls do what society expects of them blah blah blah"
2016-04-16T15:26:03 < ReadError> jesus fuck
2016-04-16T15:26:17 < ReadError> why isnt there a universal filesystem that works everywhere
2016-04-16T15:26:22 < ReadError> that doesnt blow dick
2016-04-16T15:26:29 < ReadError> fat, file size limits
2016-04-16T15:26:33 < ReadError> ntfs, well, yea
2016-04-16T15:26:36 < dongs> exfat/ntfs
2016-04-16T15:26:38 < dongs> works gr8
2016-04-16T15:27:11 < upgrdman> that reminds me of one of the only things i like about working in cn... like 1/3 of my coworkers are women. so nice compared to the sausage fest of engineering in the usa
2016-04-16T15:27:24 < dongs> pics or it didnt happen
2016-04-16T15:27:39 < upgrdman> nice try
2016-04-16T15:27:41 < ReadError> I tried exfat but it bitched about not being about to copy
2016-04-16T15:27:42 < dongs> ^_^
2016-04-16T15:27:48 < ReadError> assumed filesize but hrm
2016-04-16T15:27:51 < dongs> ReadError: sounds like your problem
2016-04-16T15:27:55 < dongs> no, exfat has no file size limit
2016-04-16T15:27:56 < ReadError> ya reading wiki
2016-04-16T15:28:00 < dongs> not anything reasonable anyway
2016-04-16T15:28:00 < ReadError> its OSX bitching
2016-04-16T15:28:10 < dongs> my 4k cam uses it and i have .ts files > 50gb on it
2016-04-16T15:28:13 < ReadError> and it cant do ntfs
2016-04-16T15:28:24 < dongs> sounds like you know the answer
2016-04-16T15:28:34 < dongs> stop using garbage
2016-04-16T15:28:42 < ReadError> ==> Installing ntfs-3g from homebrew/fuse
2016-04-16T15:28:43 < ReadError> osxfuse: Building this formula from source isn't possible due to OS X
2016-04-16T15:28:43 < ReadError> Yosemite and above's strict unsigned kext ban.
2016-04-16T15:28:47 < ReadError> huehue
2016-04-16T15:29:09 < ReadError> going over network
2016-04-16T15:29:14 < ReadError> easiest
2016-04-16T15:32:12 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlslwdB9Z4g
2016-04-16T15:32:43 < ReadError> formatted the flash drive on osx now it wants to work
2016-04-16T15:32:58 < ReadError> it limited the name to 10char
2016-04-16T15:33:07 < ReadError> was 11 before, maybe some dumb reason there
2016-04-16T15:34:53 < ReadError> need to find the cheapest/decent f0 32pin qfn on ali
2016-04-16T15:35:13 < ReadError> which comes down to popularity i think
2016-04-16T15:36:00 < ReadError> the rare less used ones are crazy expensive sometimes
2016-04-16T15:36:08 < ReadError> even though they 'cost' less
2016-04-16T15:37:19 < ReadError> guess ill start with the f072 shits
2016-04-16T15:40:45 < ReadError> oh ya and now, you cant sort by price/piece
2016-04-16T15:45:02 < dongs> clonerexpress
2016-04-16T15:51:39 < mitrax> skype has become really awful
2016-04-16T15:53:34 < mitrax> on my phone it uses 800MB
2016-04-16T15:54:12 < mitrax> i don't know what the fuck is wrong with it
2016-04-16T15:56:49 < mitrax> i checked that, there's "only" 99MB of data, cache is 5MB, App reports 869MB
2016-04-16T15:57:07 < dongs> stop making porn phone  calls with it
2016-04-16T15:57:18 < mitrax> oh :(
2016-04-16T15:59:43 < lorenzo> temp1:       +101.0°C  (crit = +103.0°C)
2016-04-16T15:59:46 < lorenzo> lenovo fireball x230
2016-04-16T16:07:43 < Steffanx> reminds me of my macbook, that also could run up to 101 and higher when doing some video recoding.
2016-04-16T16:08:14 < dongs> wat
2016-04-16T16:08:37 < lorenzo> yeah they put a 35W tdp processor in this 12" laptop
2016-04-16T16:08:57 < lorenzo> can't use it in bed goes > 90C as soon as there's some cpu usage lol
2016-04-16T16:09:09 < Laurenceb_> cook eggs on it
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2016-04-16T16:20:33 < Steffanx> What is it you want to tell us crt?
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2016-04-16T16:21:39 < Steffanx> Blaxter?
2016-04-16T16:21:54 < Steffanx> mr L.
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2016-04-16T16:24:12 < mitrax> it has this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_enlargement#/media/File:Water-based_Penis_Enlargement_Pump.jpg
2016-04-16T16:25:20 < ReadError> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Penis_Pump
2016-04-16T16:27:36 < mitrax> smart
2016-04-16T16:35:13 < upgrdman> wtf. why does my surface pro 4 keyboard stop working if i tilt the surface toward portrait mode :/
2016-04-16T16:35:31 < upgrdman> touchpad too
2016-04-16T16:36:07 < Steffanx> You better get to keiling crt. Seriously.
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2016-04-16T16:41:07 < upgrdman> lol https://encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Pump-goatsetopic.jpg
2016-04-16T16:42:33 < upgrdman> guess so
2016-04-16T16:43:36 < upgrdman> playmates with prostates... lolwut in another ED pic
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2016-04-16T17:20:09 < Steffanx> bedtime
2016-04-16T17:21:59 < Steffanx> not?
2016-04-16T17:22:00 < mitrax> Steffanx: thought you were in germany
2016-04-16T17:22:16 < Steffanx> http://time.is/Australia ;)
2016-04-16T17:22:17 < mitrax> Steffanx or did you mean bedtime for crt?
2016-04-16T17:23:33 < Steffanx> that indeed mitrax
2016-04-16T17:23:41 < Steffanx> and dutchland not deutscland
2016-04-16T17:24:55 < mitrax> Steffanx: what city?
2016-04-16T17:25:28 < Steffanx> no city.
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2016-04-16T17:45:37 < mitrax> crt: how the fuck should i know?
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2016-04-16T17:49:30 < Laurenceb_> microsoft bob?
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2016-04-16T20:22:32 < mitrax> would you be comfortable using an enclosure in a final product that is an obvious copy of something existing and which design might be patented / copyrighted?
2016-04-16T20:31:15 < Steffanx> Commercial product? Not sure.
2016-04-16T20:31:22 < Steffanx> Depends of what it is a cline of.
2016-04-16T20:31:26 < Steffanx> clone
2016-04-16T20:32:34 < mitrax> original: http://www.fibox.fr/catalog/170/product/1375/8113351_FRA1.html
2016-04-16T20:32:56 < mitrax> clone: http://www.tibox.cn/img/48.jpg
2016-04-16T20:33:36 < mitrax> note the oh so subtle change in the brand name
2016-04-16T20:33:53 < fenugrec> how much cheaper is the clone?
2016-04-16T20:34:29 < Steffanx> oh this time of enclosure. I think i wouldn't mind using that.
2016-04-16T20:34:34 < Steffanx> *time = type
2016-04-16T20:35:10 < mitrax> fenugrec: it's $17 vs $50
2016-04-16T20:35:45 < fenugrec> the fibox is probably made in china anyway
2016-04-16T20:36:26 < mitrax> ahah yeah, well i was more concerned about possible legal issue or whatever, but it's not like there will be millions of units... a few thousands maximum
2016-04-16T20:36:29 < fenugrec> but, I'd trust the fibox ratings more than the chinybox
2016-04-16T20:36:42 < mitrax> yeah that too ...
2016-04-16T20:36:46 < fenugrec> IP*, UL *
2016-04-16T20:38:28 < mitrax> i guess i could try to put on fire both, and see what happens :p
2016-04-16T20:38:52 < fenugrec> heheh
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2016-04-16T21:16:39 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1460786582380.jpg
2016-04-16T21:16:42 < Laurenceb_> trolltastic
2016-04-16T21:21:38 < mitrax> and three years old
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2016-04-16T21:25:10 < Steffanx> Yeah much changed since then mitrax ;)
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2016-04-16T21:31:10 < Steffanx> When you will win the nobel prize for trolling Laurenceb_?
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2016-04-16T21:32:18 < Laurenceb_> when the trolling committee awards it to me
2016-04-16T21:32:54 < Steffanx> Nah, i think you're not qualified enough, yet.
2016-04-16T21:33:09 < Steffanx> No big break throughs.
2016-04-16T21:33:32 < Steffanx> We need a new The Last Measure.
2016-04-16T21:33:42 < Steffanx> *-The
2016-04-16T21:34:01 < mitrax> what was that?
2016-04-16T21:34:26 < Steffanx> http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=last+measure
2016-04-16T21:34:48 < Steffanx> it worked scaringly well
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2016-04-16T21:36:51 < mitrax> okay
2016-04-16T21:37:05 < Laurenceb_> made by dongs
2016-04-16T21:38:32 < Steffanx> That's what he claims inded
2016-04-16T21:39:25  * mitrax ate too much meat :/
2016-04-16T21:39:46 < Laurenceb_> and I got targetted in my school library
2016-04-16T21:39:57 < Laurenceb_> that was embarrassing :S
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2016-04-16T22:13:11 < mitrax> GAAAH dropped my in-ear headphones in my coffee
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2016-04-16T23:01:30 < Steffanx> poor mitrax
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2016-04-17T00:27:10 < kakimir> innovators o/
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2016-04-17T00:39:28 < Steffanx> one of the .. ohsix ;)
2016-04-17T00:39:33 < Steffanx> as the article says
2016-04-17T00:41:03 < Steffanx> "He has served two times as the GNAA's president, once during 2004 when timecop emoquit, ".. haha dongs.
2016-04-17T00:41:55 < Steffanx> since when you are the emoquit type?
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2016-04-17T00:43:57 < Laurenceb_> http://patri-archie-comics.tumblr.com/image/138986914637
2016-04-17T00:44:54 < Steffanx> tldr;
2016-04-17T00:48:41 < Steffanx> comics are not supposed to have that much text
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2016-04-17T00:54:08 < Steffanx> Hello mr crt. Welcome back.
2016-04-17T00:55:26 < mitrax> HI
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2016-04-17T01:09:17 < mitrax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIUk08iYZKE&t=20
2016-04-17T01:09:50 < mitrax> crt: today is Keil day right?
2016-04-17T01:12:09 < Steffanx> today is sunday, no keiling on sunday.
2016-04-17T01:12:22 < mitrax> sunday?
2016-04-17T01:12:24 < mitrax> oh right damn
2016-04-17T01:13:17 < mitrax> no licence key for crt :(
2016-04-17T01:13:57 < mitrax> what are you waiting for then?
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2016-04-17T01:23:13 < mitrax> i once dreamed i had one
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2016-04-17T01:24:03 < mitrax> actually that's how i got to know about that song... friend of mine that i had told about the dream told me i'd been listening to king missile too much
2016-04-17T01:27:19 < mitrax> freaky thing is it was very similar to what happens in the song... i was about to leave for the week end and wondered if i should leave it home (in the freezer actually), or take it with me, what happened next is vague, but in the dream it was like a perfectly legitimate question
2016-04-17T01:29:27 < mitrax> maybe it's like those dreams about losing teeth, everybody has one from time to time
2016-04-17T01:30:38 < Steffanx> not me.
2016-04-17T01:30:49 < mitrax> Steffanx: yeah but you're german
2016-04-17T01:31:00 < Steffanx> And you are belgian.
2016-04-17T01:31:06 < mitrax> i'm not
2016-04-17T01:31:52 < mitrax> *ribbit*
2016-04-17T01:31:55 < mitrax> here's a hint ^
2016-04-17T01:32:20 < Steffanx> i know, but you keep forgetting im not from germany ;)
2016-04-17T01:32:38 < mitrax> Steffanx: you're not?
2016-04-17T01:32:51 < mitrax> Steffanx: where are you from?
2016-04-17T01:32:57 < Steffanx> dutchland.
2016-04-17T01:33:04 < mitrax> oooh
2016-04-17T01:33:16 < mitrax> stupid me
2016-04-17T01:33:31 < mitrax> well someone else said something about you being german... might have been crt
2016-04-17T01:34:11 < Steffanx> yeah, never trust those aussies
2016-04-17T01:35:00 < mitrax> yeah unreliable fuckers
2016-04-17T01:35:22 < Steffanx> THE ivan?
2016-04-17T01:39:19 < kakimir> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/48/a0/36/48a0366c9f2697f573e77d25af8451a1.jpg
2016-04-17T01:39:27 < kakimir> is it true?
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2016-04-17T01:40:00 < Steffanx> do you look like hte last one or the 2nd last one?
2016-04-17T01:41:59 < mitrax> kakimir: we still haven't seen a mugshot
2016-04-17T01:43:01 < kakimir> I look like the one on left
2016-04-17T01:52:32 < kakimir> paint.exe
2016-04-17T01:52:52 < kakimir> you can write things to photos like APPLE
2016-04-17T02:08:17 < kakimir> dongs: do you have that mouth mask thing that all asians wear?
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2016-04-17T02:14:25 < kakimir> http://www.japantrendshop.com/images/pantsu-mask-panties-underwear-th.jpg japan of the day
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2016-04-17T02:48:45 < kakimir> https://cdn.rt.com/files/2016.04/original/570ecc86c3618808558b460a.jpg Russian military aviation
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2016-04-17T02:51:58 < kakimir> what a relic
2016-04-17T03:03:44 < kakimir> real savings
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2016-04-17T03:10:52 < kakimir> autism
2016-04-17T03:12:48 < kakimir> *specific kind where you have compulsion to create one drive from multiple memmory cards
2016-04-17T03:12:58 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: they were just trolling
2016-04-17T03:13:02 < Laurenceb_> with the flyby
2016-04-17T03:13:15 < Laurenceb_> you can see the muricans on deck lulling and waving
2016-04-17T03:15:10 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: that's what I said
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2016-04-17T03:35:11 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBx8BwLhqg science
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2016-04-17T03:57:35 < Laurenceb_> https://apple.slashdot.org/story/16/04/16/1458242/snowden-predicts-global-iphone-hack-records-song
2016-04-17T03:57:37 < Laurenceb_> wut
2016-04-17T04:01:01 < kakimir> non relevant
2016-04-17T04:06:24 < Laurenceb_> shark jumping
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2016-04-17T04:13:37 < Laurenceb_> really? where?
2016-04-17T04:20:27 < kakimir> I wonder what the slow decay of apple will result in
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2016-04-17T04:25:23 < Laurenceb_> I nkow they have an nxp
2016-04-17T04:25:38 < kakimir> surelly when you have such empire you don't just quietly step down with all your assets unutilized
2016-04-17T04:25:46 < Laurenceb_> their "motion coprocessor" is actually a µC
2016-04-17T04:26:12 < Laurenceb_> http://drop-kicker.com/
2016-04-17T04:26:18 < Laurenceb_> lol @ Ampy
2016-04-17T04:28:37 < kakimir> what happens to kickstarter hoaxes when you don't have apple anymore
2016-04-17T04:34:35 < kakimir> but you need some standart device to base your unoriginal 10times copied bullshit product
2016-04-17T04:36:41 < Laurenceb_> base it on crt
2016-04-17T04:36:49 < Laurenceb_> capillary refill timing that is
2016-04-17T04:37:07 < Laurenceb_> the bullshit people keep trying to get me involved in :P
2016-04-17T04:37:20 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-17T04:37:46 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26642080
2016-04-17T04:37:54 < Laurenceb_> heh muh stm32 is on pubmed
2016-04-17T04:38:09 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4770525/figure/F3/
2016-04-17T04:40:33 < Laurenceb_> lulz yes a literal pumper
2016-04-17T04:41:16 < Laurenceb_> the worlds most overcomplex temperature sensor
2016-04-17T04:41:49 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4770525/figure/F15/
2016-04-17T04:43:28 < Laurenceb_> it tells you skin temperature, it's useless for clinical purposes
2016-04-17T04:43:51 < Laurenceb_> but thats actually good news, medical staff need to forget capillary refill timing entirely
2016-04-17T04:44:12 < Laurenceb_> I have enough data from ICU patient to publish a paper on that, which would be awesome
2016-04-17T04:44:34 < Laurenceb_> but the medical school guys I was working with won't agree to it :-/
2016-04-17T04:44:44 < Laurenceb_> academic stuff sucks
2016-04-17T04:45:41 < Laurenceb_> also this http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/21/doctor-waney-squier-denies-shaken-baby-syndrome-struck-off-misleading-courts
2016-04-17T04:45:57 < Laurenceb_> I had another paper I was working on involving her work
2016-04-17T04:46:12 < Laurenceb_> on vibration during transport...
2016-04-17T04:46:33 < Laurenceb_> too much politics, not sure I want to stay involved :-S
2016-04-17T04:47:44 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-17T04:48:58 < Laurenceb_> atm I'm trying to clone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_cm_Nebelwerfer_42
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2016-04-17T05:28:50 < upgrdman> luftwaffles sounds delicious
2016-04-17T05:29:07 < upgrdman> that would hit the spot just reich
2016-04-17T05:39:17 < emeb_mac> upgrdman: figure out an f042 board?
2016-04-17T05:39:34 < upgrdman> not yet
2016-04-17T05:39:40 < upgrdman> that nucleo might work
2016-04-17T05:39:54 < emeb_mac> I guess it doesn't have a USB connector for the 042 though
2016-04-17T05:40:05 < emeb_mac> just the stlink part
2016-04-17T05:40:08 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-17T05:40:14 < emeb_mac> stupid
2016-04-17T05:42:12 < upgrdman> i guess i could get an f4disco to satisfy my crave for usb fuckery
2016-04-17T05:42:39 < upgrdman> or maybe even play with an f3disco
2016-04-17T05:46:04 < upgrdman> more cn bitching: why the fuck do the chinese make THREE DIGIT multimeter. 3. wtf.
2016-04-17T05:46:48 < upgrdman> "i need a multimeter" ... get handed a Victor someshit with 3 digits of resolution
2016-04-17T05:46:56 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-17T05:47:19 < emeb_mac> there's a whole shitload of STM32F103 boards on ebay w/ usb connectors
2016-04-17T05:47:31 < emeb_mac> ancient stuff, but cheap
2016-04-17T05:47:41 < upgrdman> ya i dont want to redo my lib for f1
2016-04-17T05:47:48 < emeb_mac> *nod*
2016-04-17T05:47:51 < upgrdman> f4 or newer would make my life easier
2016-04-17T05:49:13 < upgrdman> lol. victor even makes 4.5 digit bench meters. who the fuck wants this trash
2016-04-17T05:49:31 < upgrdman> its prolly an arduino + lots of oversampling + lcd in there
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2016-04-17T06:41:09 < upgrdman> ohsix, what shows
2016-04-17T06:42:58 < PeterM> upgrdman, how much checked luggage do you get to bring with you when you go to .cn? tell your boss "pay the $100 for an extra 20kg so i cna have some decent  tools and shit"
2016-04-17T06:44:04 < upgrdman> lol i get fined $100 every time
2016-04-17T06:44:26 < upgrdman> and yes, i bright 1st world tools with me
2016-04-17T06:44:37 < upgrdman> but youre always needing something you dont have
2016-04-17T06:45:00 < PeterM> like a dmm that isnt rubbish?
2016-04-17T06:45:36 < ReadError> fucking taxes
2016-04-17T06:45:37 < upgrdman> well i expected my cn team to have a good one, since they have a $15k agilent oscope
2016-04-17T06:45:44 < upgrdman> but no... they have 3 digit dmms. wtf
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2016-04-17T06:46:28 < PeterM> ReadError, whats up bb? got charged tax on aliexpress order?
2016-04-17T06:46:33 < upgrdman> and these victor dmm shits have shit dials that need a lot of torque to turn, and their tilting bales are narrow so the meters WANT to fall over just sitting on a desk
2016-04-17T06:47:00 < ReadError> PeterM nah procasturbated on doing my fed/state taxes
2016-04-17T06:47:06 < ReadError> they are due on the 18th
2016-04-17T06:47:19 < PeterM> ahh, sux2bu
2016-04-17T06:47:49 < PeterM> ownfault.sh, whatdidyouexpect.c
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2016-04-17T06:49:04 < ReadError> ya i do it every year
2016-04-17T06:49:06 < ReadError> used to it
2016-04-17T06:49:33 < upgrdman> do you usually have to pay, ReadError ?
2016-04-17T06:49:50 < ReadError> ehhh flipflops
2016-04-17T06:49:52 < upgrdman> crt, dave is a douche, but my dmm claims are legit
2016-04-17T06:49:56 < ReadError> i put in about what i owe
2016-04-17T06:50:13 < ReadError> so far they are saying I owe 748$ tho
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2016-04-17T06:50:22 < upgrdman> crt, ya i dont know the right word. i admit to hearing that from dave
2016-04-17T06:50:28 < ReadError> and i already gave them like 16k ;(
2016-04-17T06:50:29 < upgrdman> wtf are they called
2016-04-17T06:50:49 < upgrdman> damn i wish my taxes are ~16k
2016-04-17T06:51:01 < upgrdman> now that im an ee pro, i pay more in taxes than i used to make
2016-04-17T06:51:06 < ReadError> The l0de radio hour is now online! www.twitch.tv/l0de Live IRC radio. Call in live 415-349-5666 - Tonight's episode: THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN AMERICA
2016-04-17T06:51:10 < ReadError> The l0de radio hour is now online! www.twitch.tv/l0de Live IRC radio. Call in live 415-349-5666 - Tonight's episode: THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN AMERICA
2016-04-17T06:51:35 < ReadError> you would like dis m8
2016-04-17T06:51:46 < ReadError> englishman ^
2016-04-17T06:51:48 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-17T06:53:12 < ReadError> hes talking about vapist
2016-04-17T06:57:06 < ReadError> call up crt
2016-04-17T06:57:17 < aandrew> oh god
2016-04-17T06:57:18 < aandrew> l0de
2016-04-17T06:57:19 < ReadError> ask l0de about pumpin
2016-04-17T06:57:20 < aandrew> hah
2016-04-17T06:57:25 < ReadError> aandrew ;p
2016-04-17T07:00:33 < ReadError> cuz ur a pumper m8
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2016-04-17T07:06:30 < ReadError> lol crt you cuck dont drop the channel
2016-04-17T07:16:09 < ReadError> it went off
2016-04-17T07:16:12 < ReadError> noone called
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2016-04-17T08:03:28 < upgrdman> what range of voltages do jacobs ladders use? ac or dc?
2016-04-17T08:10:17 < PeterM> 4-30kv, ac or dc, but ac is best
2016-04-17T08:10:48 < PeterM> s fair bit of current too
2016-04-17T08:15:19 < PeterM> something around 30-80ma
2016-04-17T08:18:02 < Thorn> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgNjFXMVIAAsdN_.jpg:large
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2016-04-17T11:08:20 < ReadError> never give your email to Mentor
2016-04-17T11:08:26 < ReadError> spamcity bitch
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2016-04-17T11:41:51 < ReadError> ?
2016-04-17T11:42:03 < ReadError> stlink and usbpi?
2016-04-17T11:42:33 < ReadError> uh
2016-04-17T11:42:39 < ReadError> wait so whats stlink have to do with the pi
2016-04-17T11:47:23 < ReadError> i have an stlink and a pi
2016-04-17T11:47:29 < ReadError> not a pi3
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2016-04-17T11:50:43 < ReadError> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/japan-fukuoka-covered-in-mystery-foam-bubbles-after-earthquake-a6987216.html
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2016-04-17T11:56:42 < ReadError> wtf is it
2016-04-17T11:58:50 < PeterM> “There was a fire engine there. There wasn't anything special about it – it was normal foam.”
2016-04-17T11:58:54 < PeterM> probably normal foam
2016-04-17T12:13:53 < dongs> autism in progress i see
2016-04-17T12:14:05 < dongs> kakimir: no
2016-04-17T12:16:21 < dongs> totally autism
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2016-04-17T12:18:02 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/design-power-distribution-board/https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/design-power-distribution-board/
2016-04-17T12:18:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/design-power-distribution-board/
2016-04-17T12:18:18 < trepidacious> Keep pasting it harder!
2016-04-17T12:18:24 < dongs> ya sorry
2016-04-17T12:18:39 < trepidacious> jk :)
2016-04-17T12:18:43 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/SPEEX-audio-player-based-STM/
2016-04-17T12:19:26 < dongs> how long do you need to wait for a regular length program dvd from netflix
2016-04-17T12:19:47 < dongs> do they deliver within 24h anywhere in usa
2016-04-17T12:19:58 < ReadError> no its not that fast
2016-04-17T12:20:03 < dongs> awful.
2016-04-17T12:20:04 < ReadError> its kinda shitty slow mail
2016-04-17T12:20:07 < dongs> japflix is next day
2016-04-17T12:20:17 < ReadError> seems like it would be expensive
2016-04-17T12:20:18 < dongs> thats how i get all my BDs for ripping
2016-04-17T12:20:21 < ReadError> overnighting
2016-04-17T12:20:24 < dongs> no its normail mail
2016-04-17T12:20:27 < dongs> sent from center of japan
2016-04-17T12:20:30 < ReadError> ah japan is tiny tho
2016-04-17T12:20:34 < dongs> so it gets anywhere
2016-04-17T12:20:37 < dongs> next day
2016-04-17T12:20:47 < dongs> except maybe okinawa i duno how they handle that shit hole
2016-04-17T12:20:54 < ReadError> i didnt think you watched movies
2016-04-17T12:21:21 < ReadError> did you get big lebowski yet?
2016-04-17T12:21:45 < dongs> i dont watch unfunny movies
2016-04-17T12:21:47 < ReadError> *did you watch it yet
2016-04-17T12:21:54 < dongs> or shit by cretin tarrantino
2016-04-17T12:21:58 < dongs> so no
2016-04-17T12:22:16 < ReadError> whats the last things you watched and liked
2016-04-17T12:22:25 < PeterM> dongs cant you jsut like redbox
2016-04-17T12:23:01 < dongs> 'rubber' was pretty cool
2016-04-17T12:23:26 < PeterM> also, that PDB thing, that shit would take liek 5 mins to do, seems like quick money
2016-04-17T12:23:26 < dongs> yes, it waws great
2016-04-17T12:23:40 < ReadError> seen inglourious basterds ?
2016-04-17T12:24:12 < dongs> PeterM: yea but kinda cheap
2016-04-17T12:24:13 < dongs> im lazy
2016-04-17T12:24:17 < dongs> and ohsix doesnt wanna do it
2016-04-17T12:24:26 < PeterM> BON JOR NO
2016-04-17T12:24:35 < dongs> and that project will race to the bottom anyway
2016-04-17T12:24:35 < ReadError> ohsix do it
2016-04-17T12:24:38 < PeterM> GRATZEEE
2016-04-17T12:24:38 < dongs> because some paki will do it for $30
2016-04-17T12:25:02 < PeterM> bid $500, if oyu win, $500 for easy, if you don't, who cares?
2016-04-17T12:25:12 < dongs> tru
2016-04-17T12:25:51 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/driver-for-MPU-for-STM/
2016-04-17T12:25:54 < dongs> fuck, thats ez
2016-04-17T12:26:50 < dongs> i mean i already have all this stuff written
2016-04-17T12:26:54 < ReadError> i need some pcb design work
2016-04-17T12:27:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/build-pcb-circuit-designed-the/
2016-04-17T12:28:11 < ReadError> https://tilman.smugmug.com/Copter/Rosewhite/Tamara/Tamara-Hexa-Nightflight/i-GXj9rZs/0/O/DSC_9845.jpg
2016-04-17T12:28:19 < ReadError> https://tilman.smugmug.com/Copter/Rosewhite/Tamara/Tamara-Hexa-Nightflight/i-QJRBjZk/0/O/DSC_9859.jpg
2016-04-17T12:28:22 < ReadError> did that last
2016-04-17T12:28:29 < ReadError> with those super expensive LED drivers lol
2016-04-17T12:28:43 < ReadError> each module was like, $18? or some crazy shit
2016-04-17T12:29:34 < ReadError> its a buck
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2016-04-17T12:30:11 < ReadError> https://www.led-tech.de/en/LED-Controlling/Constant-Current-Power-Supply/Mini-BUCK-Constant-Current-Power-Supply--700mA,-36V--LT-2316_118_119.html
2016-04-17T12:30:20 < ReadError> oh nm they got cheaper
2016-04-17T12:31:08 < ReadError> 7*3*10 = 210$ in bucks heh
2016-04-17T12:34:09 < zyp> this explains why bucks is slang for money
2016-04-17T12:42:04 < ReadError> machines-how.they.work.s01e10.hdtv.x264-w4f.mkv
2016-04-17T12:42:08 < ReadError> this show is pretty cool
2016-04-17T12:42:17 < ReadError> the 3d modeling is super sick
2016-04-17T12:42:37 < ReadError> nah
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2016-04-17T12:47:12 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/YcAM6it.png
2016-04-17T12:47:27 < ReadError> all the models are pretty much photorealistic
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2016-04-17T12:49:01 < ReadError> i used to enjoy stoning and watching how its made
2016-04-17T12:49:09 < ReadError> all the machines are so hypnotic
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2016-04-17T13:06:08 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-dpQGzKBJ0
2016-04-17T13:06:10 < ReadError> ahahhahahhaa
2016-04-17T13:07:33 < PeterM> >blows out fire instead of unpluggin the battery
2016-04-17T13:07:42 < PeterM> good luck wiht your house electrical fire buddy
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2016-04-17T14:10:27 < dongs> sup stoners
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2016-04-17T14:12:07 < Steffanx> Tha sky brah.
2016-04-17T14:12:29 < zyp> woah
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2016-04-17T14:13:38 < Steffanx> Is jappyland still shaking dogns?
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2016-04-17T14:14:46 < ReadMobl> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8whFDgsd/
2016-04-17T14:14:49 < ReadMobl> well sheit
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2016-04-17T14:15:05 < zyp> Steffanx, did you see my message?
2016-04-17T14:15:48 < Steffanx> oh, just when you said that.
2016-04-17T14:15:50 < zyp> ReadMobl, were you the guy talking about how great the wd red drives were the other day? :p
2016-04-17T14:16:10 < ReadError> I said I use them
2016-04-17T14:16:15 < ReadError> I *like* the RE drives
2016-04-17T14:16:27 < ReadError> the reds I just use..
2016-04-17T14:16:37 < ReadError> cheapos
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2016-04-17T15:08:12 < Thorn> The start of the winding process should be soft. Else the flanges may be destroid.
2016-04-17T15:12:04 < kakimir> I wonder why they want to have 2 headers/drivers per peripherial..
2016-04-17T15:12:12 < kakimir> on rom one and one software one
2016-04-17T15:16:39 < kakimir> tell me the best pastebin there is
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2016-04-17T15:19:48 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/WEyg5tYs how does it work
2016-04-17T15:20:01 < kakimir> crt: how do you know my skin of colour?
2016-04-17T15:20:08 < kakimir> I feel naked
2016-04-17T15:21:04 < kakimir> sure
2016-04-17T15:21:32 < kakimir> I have not even tested it yet
2016-04-17T15:21:46 < kakimir> but I think there should be some addresses to those func pointers
2016-04-17T15:22:05 < kakimir> or address and offsets
2016-04-17T15:22:29 < kakimir> btw. there is no .c source file or so
2016-04-17T15:22:33 < kakimir> for that one
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2016-04-17T15:22:52 < kakimir> or any romperipheraldrivers.h
2016-04-17T15:23:18 < kakimir> crt: actually there is only instructions for software ones
2016-04-17T15:23:25 < kakimir> soft ones
2016-04-17T15:23:36 < kakimir> no instructions for rom based ones
2016-04-17T15:25:53 < kakimir> pump with the nxp lpc
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2016-04-17T15:27:46 < kakimir> why you have those shittes?
2016-04-17T15:28:18 < kakimir> you should only do ultra expensive hi-fi
2016-04-17T15:29:12 < kakimir> you don't know ultra expensive hi-fi
2016-04-17T15:29:26 < kakimir> there is some ridiculous levels above expensive hi-fi
2016-04-17T15:29:38 < kakimir> sets that cost 500k or more
2016-04-17T15:29:54 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-17T15:30:09 < kakimir> what is sound reinforcement?
2016-04-17T15:30:17 < kakimir> doesn't sound hi-fi
2016-04-17T15:33:18 < kakimir> you do those at your works?
2016-04-17T15:33:44 < kakimir> not as your work though?
2016-04-17T15:35:17 < kakimir> what kind of set you own yourself?
2016-04-17T15:35:49 < kakimir> hi-fi
2016-04-17T15:37:10 < kakimir> why you no hi-fi?
2016-04-17T15:38:51 < kakimir> sure those are pricy
2016-04-17T15:39:00 < kakimir> but doesn't ensure sound quality
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2016-04-17T15:41:39 < kakimir> valve amplifiers are overrated
2016-04-17T15:42:08 < kakimir> but quite essential for guitar sound
2016-04-17T15:47:08 < kakimir> I don't know mate
2016-04-17T15:47:13 < kakimir> get moneys tommorrow
2016-04-17T15:47:31 < kakimir> pay my loan and bills and then buy some steel
2016-04-17T15:47:45 < kakimir> leds can wait
2016-04-17T15:49:18 < Laurenceb_> Kim Jung LED is best LED
2016-04-17T15:52:24 < PeterM> all diodes are LEDs with enough current
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2016-04-17T16:10:29 < kakimir> do you guys utilize crc for uart
2016-04-17T16:10:40 < kakimir> serial control stuff
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2016-04-17T16:15:17 < kakimir> hmm I wonder if I should use some character to begin commands with
2016-04-17T16:15:31 < kakimir> and another to seperate parameters
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2016-04-17T17:02:00 < Steffanx> Amd what made you think i wasn't here crt?
2016-04-17T17:04:31 < kakimir> you blew it Steffanx.. when you are hiding you stay silent
2016-04-17T17:04:48 < Steffanx> No that's mr D.
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2016-04-17T17:14:29 < Steffanx> I dont know. I wasn't here for a few ours.
2016-04-17T17:14:34 < Steffanx> How is ##stm32 crt?
2016-04-17T17:17:33 < karlp> huh, anyone seen any devices wit hthis on it? http://gloimg.gearbest.com/gb/2015/201511/source-img/1448562300838-P-3445020.jpg
2016-04-17T17:18:26 < kakimir> oh shiet
2016-04-17T17:18:46 < BrainDamage> dx has some shit with that
2016-04-17T17:18:47 < kakimir> what is the meanings of this
2016-04-17T17:18:56 < BrainDamage> phone otg
2016-04-17T17:19:01 < BrainDamage> and normal device
2016-04-17T17:19:04 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-17T17:19:10 < zyp> haha, that looks dumb
2016-04-17T17:19:29 < Steffanx> haha nice :)
2016-04-17T17:19:39 < emeb_mac> I'll bet that love you long time
2016-04-17T17:19:53 < emeb_mac> </sarcasm>
2016-04-17T17:20:13 < BrainDamage> sorry, this channel is strictly xml-free
2016-04-17T17:20:35 < Steffanx> Nah the opening tag is missing anyway.
2016-04-17T17:20:49 < karlp> proper example of usb-c pass through hub! http://www.gearbest.com/usb-gadgets/pp_256041.html
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2016-04-17T17:27:31 < kakimir> do muricans hae minimum wage now?
2016-04-17T17:32:44 < PeterM> kakimir, probably like 5 euro/hour
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2016-04-17T17:53:18 < kakimir> good mantra
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2016-04-17T17:57:28 < kakimir> wonderful idea
2016-04-17T18:07:23 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/Y8P38D2n how you think of the command set for the oven
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2016-04-17T18:10:50 < PeterM> i see no mention of jews
2016-04-17T18:11:12 < kakimir> oh I forgot functions for loading the jews
2016-04-17T18:12:03 < kakimir> load_jews and remove_ash
2016-04-17T18:14:51 < kakimir> I need to add maximum on time and error responses
2016-04-17T18:15:00 < kakimir> maybe uptime
2016-04-17T18:15:17 < kakimir> because excess work
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2016-04-17T18:23:59 < karlp> fuck me, 4 star review, still says, "Needs reset when sometimes windows stops recognizing the devices connected in it. For me it happens once a day, specially if I change ports or connect the iphone in the hub."
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2016-04-17T18:25:13 < PeterM> karlp, jesus fuck, its like he actualyl turns his computer off at night or somehting
2016-04-17T18:25:26 < lorenzo> usb hubs suck :D
2016-04-17T18:26:28 < PeterM> lorenzo, you havent made your own?
2016-04-17T18:26:53 < lorenzo> PeterM: I've started working on it and got to a certain point (see: laid out ports and power)
2016-04-17T18:27:01 < lorenzo> then I've said fuck it and bought an AmazonBasics one
2016-04-17T18:27:05 < lorenzo> since I actually needed the hub :D
2016-04-17T18:27:30 < PeterM> fair nuff
2016-04-17T18:27:56 < PeterM> i made my own because i wanted a hub that i could use to charge shit and use for data too
2016-04-17T18:28:21 < PeterM> so each port has a tact switch, off, on-data,on-charge
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2016-04-17T18:33:22 < karlp> making my own hub sounds like what I _dont_ want to be doing,
2016-04-17T18:33:29 < karlp> but yeah, I need a working one
2016-04-17T18:34:14 < karlp> I want one with a B socket on the back, not a 10cm cable, I'm not using it with a laptop, I need it up on my desk running back to the desktop underneath.
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2016-04-17T18:34:30 < karlp> and power supply included, and not flaky as shit
2016-04-17T18:34:48 < karlp> feels sucky that I have to pay $25+ for that, but oh well
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2016-04-17T18:36:01 < karlp> http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Port-USB-Power-Adapter/dp/B00E6GX4BG/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1460906931&sr=8-31&keywords=usb+hub looks ok so far, but all the sockets are on the back.
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2016-04-17T18:36:25 < PeterM> if i ever make another batch, ill put you down for one
2016-04-17T18:36:34 < karlp> and it's still as much money as the 8core tv box, with 8gig flash and a gig of ram and ethernet and wifi stuff I just bought
2016-04-17T18:36:51 < karlp> buttons for the ports that _work_ would be nice
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2016-04-17T18:37:48 < karlp> making my own is probably straightforward, but time I don't want to be spending :)
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2016-04-17T18:47:41 < ReadError> PeterM got any pics?
2016-04-17T18:47:49 < ReadError> (of the hub, not you)
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2016-04-17T18:55:30 < PeterM> nah, no pics, it jsut looks liek a hub tho, 7 usb ports on the front, 7 right angle tacts, on the back microusb3 and a barrel jack, one of those extruded aluminium cases. must admit, i didnt relaly pay much attention to hte bom cost though
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2016-04-17T19:07:49 < ReadError> make a case?
2016-04-17T19:07:55 < ReadError> oh nm just read
2016-04-17T19:08:51 < ReadError> im doing a dumb little 18650 usb thing
2016-04-17T19:09:25 < ReadError> single cell charger but then it can be used to charge 1s lipos or boosted to 5v out
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2016-04-17T19:16:54 < PeterM> they lierally have single ic solutions for that
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2016-04-17T19:19:42 < ReadError> PeterM ? charger+boost?
2016-04-17T19:19:45 < PeterM> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?lang=en&site=us&WT.z_cid=ref_findchips_standard&mpart=RT9480GQW
2016-04-17T19:20:16 < ReadError> well fuck me
2016-04-17T19:20:25 < ReadError> ya that works
2016-04-17T19:20:39 < ReadError> i was going to use those skyworks joints but i have something else i can put them on
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2016-04-17T19:21:40 < PeterM> upgrdmans new wife did a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHYyogri-O4
2016-04-17T19:21:52 < ReadError> cheap lil bastards too
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2016-04-17T19:25:30 < PeterM> i tyhink the only thing its missing is the functions of a ti tps 2513
2016-04-17T19:25:44 < PeterM> (that auto sets teh d+/d- votlages)
2016-04-17T19:27:02 < ReadError> aha ya that was in my list already too
2016-04-17T19:27:16 < ReadError> got the part# from dongs the other day
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2016-04-17T19:30:18 < PeterM> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/usb-charging-helper-chips.txt
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2016-04-17T19:32:55 < ReadError> i kinda want an excuse to do a PCB usb connector
2016-04-17T19:33:00 < ReadError> seems pretty hip
2016-04-17T19:34:33 < PeterM> sounds fuckken dumb if you ask me
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2016-04-17T19:38:10 < ReadError> yea probably not on the 18650 thing
2016-04-17T19:38:34 < ReadError> but i will for a shitty little 1s charger for these toy microquad batts
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2016-04-17T19:40:17 < PeterM> is there even a market for that
2016-04-17T19:40:30 < ReadError> no not to sell just to make
2016-04-17T19:40:44 < ReadError> and opensource it
2016-04-17T19:40:51 < ReadError> have it do 4 at a time
2016-04-17T19:41:08 < PeterM> ....
2016-04-17T19:41:17 < PeterM> just do it for the blog of it?
2016-04-17T19:41:27 < ReadError> ya just kakimir'in it
2016-04-17T19:41:30 < ReadError> making shit just to make
2016-04-17T19:41:51 < PeterM> next thing you know you're on the front page of tardafruit or sparkfuck
2016-04-17T19:42:14 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-17T19:42:23 < ReadError> needs a lot of LEDs then
2016-04-17T19:42:31 < ReadError> ws2812 for sure
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2016-04-17T19:43:00 < PeterM> but how are you goign to put a pcb usb plug wiht an arduino header footrpint?
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2016-04-17T19:44:27 < ReadError> no need, will have esp2866
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2016-04-17T19:46:11 < PeterM> psn6822?
2016-04-17T19:50:23 < ReadError> maybe it can be a pi zero cape
2016-04-17T19:50:27 < ReadError> sheild
2016-04-17T19:50:48 < PeterM> i feel bad because my autism wants to correct you but i know i shouldnt
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2016-04-17T19:58:54 < ReadError> heh
2016-04-17T19:59:26 < PeterM> done much innovatin recently?
2016-04-17T19:59:52 < ReadError> nah been dickering with that e mountainboard mechanics
2016-04-17T19:59:56 < PeterM> oh, actually did you get your innovated batts?
2016-04-17T20:00:09 < ReadError> I need to try and install a keyway
2016-04-17T20:00:17 < ReadError> or, ill just drill a 3mm hole through the shaft
2016-04-17T20:00:23 < ReadError> and run a m3 screw though
2016-04-17T20:00:37 < ReadError> shaft is 8mm so I dont think 3mm would hurt it much
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2016-04-17T20:01:04 < ReadError> well, I got 7 of those cheapass 6600 4s coming monday
2016-04-17T20:01:07 < PeterM> i could understnad a m3 grubscrew to hold a key in place, but a m3 to take all the torque? you gotta be kiddin
2016-04-17T20:01:22 < Steffanx> what hub chip did you use PeterM?
2016-04-17T20:01:27 < ReadError> then somewhere i have 48 18650s coming
2016-04-17T20:01:35 < PeterM> ti tusb8040 iirc
2016-04-17T20:01:56 < PeterM> x2 ofc
2016-04-17T20:02:05 < ReadError> i dont have any good broaching tools though
2016-04-17T20:02:19 < ReadError> so cutting the keyways in the pinion and shaft is gonna be a bitch
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2016-04-17T20:03:01 < PeterM> nah, you've got a dremel right? jsut take it slow
2016-04-17T20:03:23 < PeterM> i mean, dremels are fucking shit, but this is probably somethign they might actualyl be useful for
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2016-04-17T20:03:50 < ReadError> think i might throw it in a vice and manually run the mill to rough it out
2016-04-17T20:03:56 < ReadError> then work it square with a file
2016-04-17T20:04:12 < ReadError> for the pinion anyways
2016-04-17T20:04:22 < PeterM> for the shaft that even easier
2016-04-17T20:04:25 < ReadError> motor shaft i can slot easily i think
2016-04-17T20:04:29 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-17T20:04:38 < PeterM> slotting hte motor shaft is 0 problem
2016-04-17T20:04:46 < ReadError> yea not worried about that much
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2016-04-17T20:06:08 < ReadError> once i decide on a gear ratio i need to make some mounts that dont look super ugly
2016-04-17T20:06:25 < PeterM> the other option is to drill + tap a grub into the pinion and grind a flat on the shaft
2016-04-17T20:06:33 < PeterM> butthats kinda fucked
2016-04-17T20:06:55 < ReadError> yea, with the hole I was going to do that and a couple grubs+flats
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2016-04-17T20:07:20 < ReadError> got 4 pinions and 4 extra shafts
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2016-04-17T20:15:53 < PeterM> also, 48x 18650s, were they the ones from that site you linked the other day?
2016-04-17T20:16:49 < ReadError> http://www.everbuying.net/product1100115.html
2016-04-17T20:17:51 < PeterM> colour green >azure
2016-04-17T20:17:54 < PeterM> the fuck
2016-04-17T20:18:26 < PeterM> oh you linked the wrong oenes
2016-04-17T20:18:39 < PeterM> http://www.everbuying.net/product926571.html
2016-04-17T20:19:11 < ReadError> oh ya didnt get those, dont think they have enough current capacity
2016-04-17T20:20:13 < PeterM> thats why you're makin a 12s pack.... do oyu dont need mad currents
2016-04-17T20:22:38 < ReadError> not sure yet
2016-04-17T20:23:34 < ReadError> depends how I end up gearing it I think
2016-04-17T20:24:48 < PeterM> say i needed 400kwh of lithium batteries, where do you thionk would be the best placeto get em
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2016-04-17T20:25:43 < ReadError> lol no idea
2016-04-17T20:25:55 < PeterM> i dont either
2016-04-17T20:30:17 < PeterM> i wodner if i a dealer would sell a repalcement pack or 20
2016-04-17T20:35:10 < jadew> ffs... I've spent the entire day looking for a license that allows everything except derivative works from being distributed and I can't find one
2016-04-17T20:35:29 < jadew> whenever someone mentions it, OSI and FSF zealots pop up to say "THAT'S NOT TRUE OPEN SOURCE"
2016-04-17T20:35:54 < PeterM> http://www.wtfpl.net/
2016-04-17T20:36:35 < ReadError> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_source#Microsoft_Reference_Source_License_.28Ms-RSL.29
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2016-04-17T20:37:17 < jadew> ReadError, thing is, I want to allow people to modify it and use it privately in any way they like
2016-04-17T20:37:34 < jadew> I just don't want them to spin off other projects off of it
2016-04-17T20:38:25 < jadew> PeterM, MIT seems better than that because it takes care of the liability stuff
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2016-04-17T20:41:32 < zyp> jadew, that sounds tricky to get right without a ton of loopholes
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2016-04-17T20:42:39 < jadew> zyp, yeah, it sure looks like it
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2016-04-17T20:49:04 < ReadError> http://i.snag.gy/omc7x.jpg
2016-04-17T20:49:10 < ReadError> seems pretty legit for a spinny HD
2016-04-17T20:49:29 < ReadError> always thought they were slower for some reason
2016-04-17T20:50:03 < PeterM> spinning rust has been getting better
2016-04-17T20:50:42 < PeterM> sequential speeds is pretty decent
2016-04-17T20:50:48 < PeterM> but seek is rubbish
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2016-04-17T20:54:46 < BrainDamage> jadew: if noncommercial instead of nondistribution is sufficient, you could use creative commons
2016-04-17T20:56:57 < jadew> BrainDamage, I don't care about commercial use
2016-04-17T20:57:09 < jadew> I just don't want credit to be stolen via derivation
2016-04-17T20:57:41 < PeterM> jadew, hire a lawyer and make your own license, then release the license itself as opensource, that seems liek somethign the opensource community would do
2016-04-17T20:59:10 < jadew> heh
2016-04-17T20:59:50 < jadew> I'll talk to a lawyer about this, if it's too much hassle, I just won't release it
2016-04-17T20:59:55 < ReadError> jadew whats the point tho
2016-04-17T21:00:00 < ReadError> people are going to do what they want
2016-04-17T21:00:03 < ReadError> look at china
2016-04-17T21:00:21 < jadew> ReadError, I don't see china improving on my project and pretending it's theirs
2016-04-17T21:00:30 < jadew> they'll just use it for something at best
2016-04-17T21:00:34 < jadew> or to build something
2016-04-17T21:00:35 < jadew> that's fine
2016-04-17T21:00:39 < ReadError> what is it btw/
2016-04-17T21:00:57 < jadew> it's an awesome MVC framework for PHP
2016-04-17T21:01:10 < jadew> I was looking for something like that and came to the conclusion that they all suck
2016-04-17T21:01:15 < jadew> so I wrote one that doesn't
2016-04-17T21:01:27 < lorenzo> that's what everyone thinks before writing a new framework, yes
2016-04-17T21:01:35 < ReadError> so you want them to be able to edit it
2016-04-17T21:01:42 < ReadError> but just not share it?
2016-04-17T21:01:44 < jadew> ReadError, if they have to sure
2016-04-17T21:01:45 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-17T21:01:54 < jadew> if they share it, it has to be unmodified
2016-04-17T21:02:04 < ReadError> how can they submit patches
2016-04-17T21:02:10 < ReadError> or improvements to you then
2016-04-17T21:02:25 < jadew> they can give me the patches
2016-04-17T21:02:40 < jadew> they can modify it
2016-04-17T21:02:41 < ReadError> yea but how can they do that
2016-04-17T21:02:50 < ReadError> if they cant push changes to their github
2016-04-17T21:02:56 < jadew> they just can't release the modified version
2016-04-17T21:02:58 < ReadError> or what not..
2016-04-17T21:03:26 < jadew> yeah, that's a bit of an issue, I wouldn't want to prevent regular usage
2016-04-17T21:03:40 < ReadError> sounds like a real pain in the dick license
2016-04-17T21:03:44 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-17T21:03:46 < ReadError> if you are that paranoid just dont release it
2016-04-17T21:04:01 < ReadError> because even if someone DID violate the license
2016-04-17T21:04:05 < jadew> I'm not paranoid, it happens with everything
2016-04-17T21:04:10 < ReadError> do you have the time/$$$ to go after them?
2016-04-17T21:04:18 < ReadError> or is it even worth it
2016-04-17T21:04:32 < jadew> I'm not planning to go after them, but it's a statement of intent
2016-04-17T21:04:40 < jadew> people who are not absolute assholes will abide by it
2016-04-17T21:04:44 < ReadError> why not just make your own
2016-04-17T21:04:49 < jadew> license?
2016-04-17T21:04:52 < ReadError> since its not really enforceable anyways
2016-04-17T21:05:01 < jadew> not sure how to word it tbh, sounds complicated
2016-04-17T21:05:06 < ReadError> yea no shit ;p
2016-04-17T21:05:32 < jadew> :)
2016-04-17T21:06:27 < jadew> ok, had an idea
2016-04-17T21:07:50 < jadew> how about free for use in any way you like with the exception that redistribution of modified code is only permited with the approval of the author.
2016-04-17T21:08:47 < jadew> that would allow me to judge each case individually and eventually add clauses to the license for the scenarios that tend to repeat
2016-04-17T21:09:17 < jadew> at the same time it would imply that "it's best if you don't modify it at all" since nobody wants to ask for permission for stuff
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2016-04-17T21:17:55 < Steffanx> Just kickstarter it to pay the laywer jadew
2016-04-17T21:18:05 < jadew> haha
2016-04-17T21:19:15 < jadew> I think I'll just extend the MIT license with my own conditions
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2016-04-17T21:35:12 < jadew> I added this to the MIT license: No modified or built upon version can be distributed without the author's consent.
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2016-04-17T21:39:04 < Steffanx> it's an awesome MVC framework for PHP .. meh :P
2016-04-17T21:39:31 < Steffanx> Used Yii, was pretty happy with it.
2016-04-17T21:39:58 < Steffanx> Now I am ashamed I ever used php ;)
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2016-04-17T21:40:07 < jadew> I'm not fond of PHP either
2016-04-17T21:40:28 < Steffanx> Weren't you more into C#?
2016-04-17T21:40:45 < jadew> it's a stupid language, but it's widely available
2016-04-17T21:41:07 < jadew> not really, I know C# too, but I rarely use it for anything big
2016-04-17T21:41:48 < Steffanx> Sometimes I get the idea its even easier than PHP with all the linq and stuff.
2016-04-17T21:42:28 < jadew> it's easier becuase it's not stupid
2016-04-17T21:42:32 < Steffanx> and visual studio of course.
2016-04-17T21:42:44 < jadew> there are PHP plugins for VS
2016-04-17T21:42:55 < jadew> the problem is that PHP started in very bad shape
2016-04-17T21:43:01 < jadew> it was poorly designed to begin with
2016-04-17T21:43:24 < jadew> and by the looks of it, whoever is in charge of its evolution can't do much better than that
2016-04-17T21:43:29 < Steffanx> I never ran into too much trouble with php.
2016-04-17T21:43:47 < jadew> I have, it has fundamental issues
2016-04-17T21:44:05 < jadew> like how NULL is handled
2016-04-17T21:44:46 < jadew> different behaviour for foreach based on the type of the key => pair arguments
2016-04-17T21:45:07 < jadew> poor OOP
2016-04-17T21:47:02 < Steffanx> dont remember i ever had issues with that foreach thing
2016-04-17T21:47:06 < jadew> also, they made some changes to how objects were passed, from version 5 to 5.1 I think (not sure) and in doing so they made arrays that contained objects unclonable
2016-04-17T21:47:43 < jadew> that was years ago and I filed a bug report, they asked me last year if I care about it anymore - not really, no
2016-04-17T21:47:46 < jadew> the bug is still there
2016-04-17T21:48:00 < jadew> well here's a crazy thing about foreach
2016-04-17T21:48:19 < jadew> if you do foreach ($arr as $k => $v) it clones $arr and goes through the cloned version
2016-04-17T21:48:35 < jadew> if you do foreach ($arr as $k => &$v) it doesn't clone it anymore
2016-04-17T21:49:36 < zyp> that & looks inspired by C++'s references
2016-04-17T21:49:39 < jadew> needless to say that the behaviour gets even more unintuitive if you store objects
2016-04-17T21:49:55 < jadew> zyp, that's what it implies, a reference
2016-04-17T21:50:04 < zyp> sure, so what's wrong with that?
2016-04-17T21:50:23 < jadew> zyp, the fact that foreach ($arr as $k => $v) clones the array
2016-04-17T21:50:54 < jadew> it's different behaviour that's not apparent
2016-04-17T21:50:55 < zyp> the array or the contents?
2016-04-17T21:51:23 < jadew> the array, and since 5.1 or something like that, not the contents if it's objects
2016-04-17T21:51:27 < jadew> it's a freaking mess
2016-04-17T21:51:31 < zyp> idk, coming from a C++ perspective that looks like a reasonable way to distinguish copies from references
2016-04-17T21:51:42 < jadew> zyp, yeah, that's not the issue
2016-04-17T21:51:46 < zyp> I say looks, because I've never used it :)
2016-04-17T21:52:22 < jadew> foreach ($arr as $k => $v) behaves different than foreach ($arr as $k => &$v) in that in the first case you're not looping through the values of $arr
2016-04-17T21:52:29 < jadew> but through the values of clone($arr)
2016-04-17T21:53:06 < jadew> that creates expectations that are not met when doing foreach ($arr as $k => &$v)
2016-04-17T21:53:44 < zyp> such as?
2016-04-17T21:53:55 < jadew> for example if you do unset($arr[$k]);
2016-04-17T21:54:09 < jadew> that means something very different in those two scenarios
2016-04-17T21:54:27 < jadew> because in the first one (when you're looping through the clone) you're removing an element from a different array
2016-04-17T21:54:35 < jadew> while in the second case you're removing an element from the current array
2016-04-17T21:54:41 < jadew> (the one you're looping from)
2016-04-17T21:54:50 < jadew> and we all know what kind of issues that can cause
2016-04-17T21:55:11 < jadew> especially if you're used to this action not having any repercursions (because the first case clones the array)
2016-04-17T21:55:55 < jadew> there's also the stupid scope thing
2016-04-17T21:56:22 < jadew> foreach ($arr as $k => &$v) {} leaves &$v hanging as areference to the last element of the array
2016-04-17T21:57:11 < jadew> so if further down the line you request some other file which happens to make use of $v, good luck figuring out why the last element of your array (or the element where the loop stopped) is changing for no reason :)
2016-04-17T21:59:27 < jadew> oh, and there's also the fact that it doesn't call base constructors by default nor it objects if you don't call them
2016-04-17T22:00:25 < jadew> among other things that annoy me, the parent keyword, being used to represent the base class
2016-04-17T22:02:49 < jadew> I'm not even going to get into it's all over the place naming convention and parameter order
2016-04-17T22:03:04 < jadew> you can never be sure if it's needle, hystack or the other way around
2016-04-17T22:03:21 < jadew> because different functions use different parameter orders
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2016-04-17T22:06:35 < jadew> oh, here's a new one, they had a mysql extension that got replaced with mysqli, so when they deprecated the old extension you ended up realizing that all the mysqli_ functions were the same with the mysql_ functions, just that where the mysql_ function were taking the $link parameter at the end of the parameter list, the mysqli_ functions were taking it at the front
2016-04-17T22:07:04 < jadew> so instead of being able to do a replace for mysql_ to mysqli_ you had to go through all the library and move that freaking parameter around
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2016-04-17T22:15:56 < Steffanx> You shouldnt have been using mysql_* for a long time anyway
2016-04-17T22:17:11 < jadew> yeah, but the point stands regardless of when you decided to switch
2016-04-17T22:17:28 < jadew> also, I remember reading why they deprecated it and I thought to myself "well, I don't care about that"
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2016-04-17T22:43:02 < ReadError> https://imgur.com/gallery/BzYtuT9
2016-04-17T22:43:05 < ReadError> haha
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2016-04-17T22:46:57 < jadew> is that what pikachu is?
2016-04-17T22:47:53 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0WnZyxp_Wo
2016-04-17T22:48:59 < jadew> kids seem to love them
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2016-04-17T22:50:04 < jadew> but what's not to love, happy face that looks like pressed cheese
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2016-04-17T22:50:57 < kakimir> totally horrible weather started
2016-04-17T22:51:21 < kakimir> 6C and rain and cloudy
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2016-04-17T22:52:57 < kakimir> what is weird my moods are quite much in sync with weather
2016-04-17T22:53:27 < kakimir> before I see the weather outside I'm already like shieet
2016-04-17T22:54:02 < jadew> "ah... sunny again, damn it"
2016-04-17T22:54:14 < jadew> "ah... it's raining, just my luck!"
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2016-04-17T22:54:46 < kakimir> "sun.. fuck my eyes"
2016-04-17T22:55:04 < kakimir> "better stay inside"
2016-04-17T22:56:27 < Steffanx> Winter depression type?
2016-04-17T22:56:41 < jadew> I think that's spring depression
2016-04-17T22:57:10 < jadew> because we use all the minerals or something like that durring the winter
2016-04-17T22:59:27 < kakimir> spring depression is when you see the sun and can't handle it
2016-04-17T23:02:37 < jadew> you should be happy about your depression then
2016-04-17T23:02:43 < jadew> there are worst types of depressions
2016-04-17T23:03:20 < jadew> shitty life depression
2016-04-17T23:03:30 < jadew> shitty family depression - I know a guy who killed himself over this one
2016-04-17T23:03:36 < jadew> *knew
2016-04-17T23:04:04 < kakimir> why take one
2016-04-17T23:04:09 < kakimir> combine them all
2016-04-17T23:04:38 < Laurenceb_> here in UK is it still daylight at 20:30 yet no leaves on the trees
2016-04-17T23:04:40 < Laurenceb_> weird
2016-04-17T23:05:01 < jadew> Laurenceb, that's weird indeed
2016-04-17T23:05:10 < jadew> everything is green and flourishing in here
2016-04-17T23:05:41 < jadew> (for quite a while now)
2016-04-17T23:06:00 < Laurenceb_> what country is that?
2016-04-17T23:06:08 < jadew> Romania
2016-04-17T23:06:15 < Laurenceb_> ah
2016-04-17T23:07:07 < jadew> we're at about the same latitude, no?
2016-04-17T23:07:38 < jadew> I guess the ocean has a big impact on the climate there
2016-04-17T23:08:04 < Laurenceb_> I'm at 52north
2016-04-17T23:08:26 < Laurenceb_> erm 53
2016-04-17T23:08:27 < jadew> I'm at 44
2016-04-17T23:09:26 < Laurenceb_> ah, thats probably why
2016-04-17T23:09:56 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-17T23:12:46 < Steffanx> no leaves on the trees here either
2016-04-17T23:15:56 < jadew> Steffanx, what latitude?
2016-04-17T23:17:26 < karlp> PeterM: now that youðve brought it up, I can't get it out of my head!  do you have pics of your hub? or design files to remake it or anything?
2016-04-17T23:17:49 < jadew> what hub?
2016-04-17T23:18:29 < aandrew> I am hoping I'll be visiting there next year
2016-04-17T23:18:38 < aandrew> my sister in law and niece are coming here this summer
2016-04-17T23:20:42 < Steffanx> usb 3.0 hub he made jadew
2016-04-17T23:20:52 < jadew> ah, nice
2016-04-17T23:21:15 < ReadError> karlp I axed too
2016-04-17T23:21:20 < ReadError> he said no pics ;(
2016-04-17T23:21:56 < jadew> now that I think about it, it wouldn't hurt replacing my USB 2.0 hub with a USB 3.0 one
2016-04-17T23:22:19 < jadew> I always have issues with crap that hopes to stream at max speed
2016-04-17T23:25:26 < aandrew> you've got a very small country and a sea. yes the ocean moderates it quite a bit
2016-04-17T23:25:42 < aandrew> winters aren't generally as bad and summers aren't generally as hot
2016-04-17T23:26:21 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27-2WDIZR0
2016-04-17T23:27:04 < kakimir> get inspired
2016-04-17T23:27:09 < jadew> hard to take your word for it, when I visited London in winter, I and my friends were wearing winter jackets and were still chilly, while the locals were wearing shirts and sandals
2016-04-17T23:27:15 < jadew> there was snow on the road!
2016-04-17T23:28:10 < jadew> so when you say moderate winter, you probably mean "and we're used to the cold"
2016-04-17T23:29:08 < Steffanx> Those were probably hippies.
2016-04-17T23:29:45 < jadew> don't know... from our point of view it looked like everyone cares more about fashion than their well being
2016-04-17T23:39:34 < kakimir> I think I start waxin my mustache
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2016-04-18T01:18:09 < karlp> ah, amazon, go fuck yourself: "$31.49 + $48.53 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Iceland"
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2016-04-18T01:24:43 < karlp> heh, ti's usb hub controller part selector matrix doesn't have a column for how many fucking ports it has.
2016-04-18T01:30:19 < karlp> 25% vat, customs depends, but not on most conusmer electronics.
2016-04-18T01:30:41 < karlp> amazon just says they're going to hold more money, and use that to pay "somehow" instead of me just paying when I pick up my parcel
2016-04-18T01:31:04 < karlp> so amazon is going to hold a pile on their estimate, I _may_ get it back, I may not, and there's no guarantee I won't still be charged here
2016-04-18T01:31:26 < karlp> normally, icelandic customs would go, "how much did you pay? including shipping and handlign? now plus 25%"
2016-04-18T01:31:43 < karlp> so traditioanlly, it' would be 25% on top of amazon's "helpful" shipping deposit.
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2016-04-18T01:49:19 < Laurenceb__> https://web.archive.org/web/20121004010726/http://www.unitysemi.com/documents/whitepapers/TFUG-final-10.09cJ-Sanchez.pdf
2016-04-18T01:51:20 < ReadError> amazon here
2016-04-18T01:51:24 < ReadError> i click 1 button
2016-04-18T01:51:31 < ReadError> and things show up in 1-2days
2016-04-18T01:51:35 < ReadError> its wonderful
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2016-04-18T02:26:32 < karlp> hrm, what else should I  buy on dx?
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2016-04-18T02:29:24 < karlp> yeah, been using gearbest recently, but they don't have the usb hub I went with with the power supply included
2016-04-18T02:29:52 < karlp> I should get "RS" decals for my ford :)
2016-04-18T02:32:46 < karlp> yeah :)
2016-04-18T02:43:20 < karlp> nvm, what about this?  http://www.dx.com/p/wind-powered-shark-fin-shaped-12-led-rgb-light-car-decoration-lamp-white-128974#.VxQcd627yV4
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2016-04-18T02:46:25  * karlp grins
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2016-04-18T02:51:45 < karlp> crt: you're an audio dude, I want like 2 x RCA/3.5mm inputs, maybe a hdmi ARC or usb device? to a single pair of speakers? am I dreaming?
2016-04-18T02:53:25 < jadew> heh
2016-04-18T02:53:36 < karlp> I guess, just a matter of finding it.
2016-04-18T02:53:42 < karlp> is HDMI ARC used at all?
2016-04-18T02:54:00 < karlp> my tv says it supports it, but no idea if it _really_ does, or what I'd need for it.
2016-04-18T02:55:05 < lorenzo> http://www.seek.com.au/job/30771191
2016-04-18T02:55:08 < lorenzo> applying
2016-04-18T02:55:10 < lorenzo> no
2016-04-18T02:57:52 < karlp> heh, brisbane friends sent me that a couple of days ago :)
2016-04-18T02:59:15 < karlp> something like the nad d3020, butliek, not actually costing real money :)
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2016-04-18T03:31:00 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/ISFpi8O.jpg
2016-04-18T03:32:26 < Laurenceb__> debug avr
2016-04-18T03:32:31 < Laurenceb__> but you use printf for that
2016-04-18T03:32:45 < Laurenceb__> or just c&p arduino shit randomly
2016-04-18T03:35:47 < karlp> dragon is cheapest thing that talks debugwire, but it's flaky
2016-04-18T03:35:54 < karlp> not all parts support jtag,
2016-04-18T03:36:05 < karlp> most people justuse printf and an avrisp for programming
2016-04-18T03:39:04 < karlp> crt so upworty, can't vote!
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2016-04-18T03:45:09 < karlp> edbg is for non-avr atmel parts
2016-04-18T03:45:20 < karlp> edbg is actually a cmsis-dap implementation with some extras
2016-04-18T03:45:55 < karlp> if you have an edbg dongle it might be able to speak avr-isp old stuff as well
2016-04-18T03:46:01 < karlp> what are you actually targetting?
2016-04-18T03:46:25 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/2URlcwk
2016-04-18T03:47:22 < karlp> if you're used todebug with oocd and arm, you're going to find debugwire and avarice to be shitty and unfun
2016-04-18T03:50:53 < ReadError> "that pumper of efnut"
2016-04-18T03:51:15 < ReadError> ohhh lol
2016-04-18T03:51:18 < ReadError> hes not a pumper
2016-04-18T03:53:14 < ReadError> ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]------------------------
2016-04-18T03:53:25 < ReadError> oooops m/t
2016-04-18T03:55:40 < Laurenceb__> The only moral lesson of Avitar was that if you make it pretty enough, people will watch any utter shit.
2016-04-18T03:55:43 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-18T04:04:09 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: what does cis boy mean?
2016-04-18T04:05:17 < kakimir> I don't google it because I want to hear it from laurence
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2016-04-18T04:07:50 < kakimir> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cis+male
2016-04-18T04:07:53 < kakimir> jesus
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2016-04-18T07:02:36 < upgrdman> with altidongs, how do i find one of the footprints from the default library so i can edit it and save it as something else?
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2016-04-18T07:38:37 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-18T07:39:36 < dongs> upgrdman: what is "default library"?
2016-04-18T07:39:52 < dongs> upgrdman: worst case, put it on a pcb, (or all the ones yo uwanna steaL) then design->make pcb library
2016-04-18T07:39:58 < dongs> and you'll have a .pcblib to rip the stuff from
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2016-04-18T07:45:28 < dongs> wat
2016-04-18T07:45:32 < dongs> is that per quarter sales?
2016-04-18T07:45:34 < dongs> or year
2016-04-18T07:45:40 < dongs> ah quarter
2016-04-18T07:45:48 < dongs> so they only do 200mil/quarter? i thought it would be more than that
2016-04-18T07:49:00 < emeb_mac> shocking!
2016-04-18T07:49:25 < emeb_mac> "no such thing as bad publicity"
2016-04-18T07:49:58 < emeb_mac> dongs: got a pal who works @ MCHP - has all kinds of stories about the atmel acquisition over the last few weeks.
2016-04-18T07:50:31 < emeb_mac> walking thru the cubes @ HQ listening to the mgrs in conference calls discussing who to lay off...
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2016-04-18T08:25:04 < dongs> emeb_mac: so atmel sucks? what a shock!
2016-04-18T08:25:20 < emeb_mac> iknowrite?
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2016-04-18T08:48:13 < dongs> kinda like this channel not needing any new autism
2016-04-18T08:50:34 < dongs> where assburgers and electronics furiously collide
2016-04-18T08:51:49 < dongs> youre saying like its soemthing I dont know
2016-04-18T08:52:56 < dongs> how's that stm32 going
2016-04-18T08:53:45 < dongs> has there been any improvements since ohsix.jpg ~10 years ago?
2016-04-18T08:54:49 < emeb_mac> I want someone from .jp to explain babymetal for me.
2016-04-18T08:55:23 < emeb_mac> or something
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2016-04-18T08:56:30 < emeb_mac> just watched a bit on ewet00b
2016-04-18T08:56:54 < emeb_mac> thrash guitars + high pitched nattering
2016-04-18T08:56:55 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/STM-Micro-controller-simples-tasks/
2016-04-18T08:56:58 < dongs> more easy work for ohsix
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2016-04-18T09:04:46 < PeterM> emeb_mac, im not from japan, but i am from metal, and all i can say is its fucking trash
2016-04-18T09:05:15 < emeb_mac> PeterM: some of my more metal acquaintances agree
2016-04-18T09:05:35 < emeb_mac> some think that it's fun for 15s or so, then gets old fast
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2016-04-18T09:06:46 < Thorn> looks like pnp is often more expensive than npn in a complementary pair, why is that
2016-04-18T09:08:09 < emeb_mac> because it's hard to get hole mobility to match electron mobility
2016-04-18T09:08:25 < PeterM> holes are shitty charge carriers
2016-04-18T09:12:00 < PeterM> its liek 3:1 or there abouts isnt it? so you nee a die 3x the size for ptype semiconductors
2016-04-18T09:12:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Add-external-EEPROM-flash-existing/ this poor guy has been trying to get this done for a month+ now
2016-04-18T09:12:38 < dongs> You must guarantee that the solution will work for sure, so MCU will be able to communicate via SPI with external memory.
2016-04-18T09:12:42 < dongs> thats new
2016-04-18T09:12:49 < dongs> must have got tired of pakilancers ufcking up such basic task
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2016-04-18T10:38:13 < jadew> I completely forgot about mram
2016-04-18T10:38:43 < jadew> how come it faded from the spotlight?
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2016-04-18T10:39:07 < jadew> not as useful as predicted?
2016-04-18T10:40:14 < zyp> probably too expensive?
2016-04-18T10:42:28 < zyp> hmm, mram seems to be a bit faster than fram, judging by that digikey link
2016-04-18T10:43:03 < upgrdman> how many write is mram good for?
2016-04-18T10:45:03 < upgrdman> iirc the 20MHz FRAM im using is good for like 60yrs of nonstop writes at 20MHz SCLK
2016-04-18T10:45:10 < upgrdman> so like why more :)
2016-04-18T10:47:37 < jadew> it's good especially for IoT, according to that site :P
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2016-04-18T10:48:46 < jadew> I had an idea for a kickstarter: "twitter connected zipper"
2016-04-18T10:49:12 < jadew> it would tweet "I'm open.", "I'm closed.", "I'm half open."
2016-04-18T10:49:16 < lorenzo> let's make an IoT-enabled $something
2016-04-18T10:51:50 < lorenzo> I'd just three hall effect sensors
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2016-04-18T10:55:09 < lorenzo> ohsix: or light coming in
2016-04-18T10:55:12 < jadew> you'd have to keep track all the time
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2016-04-18T10:55:16 < jadew> lol
2016-04-18T10:55:55 < lorenzo> well some false positives are to be expected, and a reboot each week
2016-04-18T10:56:03 < lorenzo> that's how IoT works
2016-04-18T10:56:32 < lorenzo> jokes aside, I've read of people smashing their Nest "cloud smoke detector"
2016-04-18T10:56:36 < jadew> carbon film coating on the material where the teeth are attached, on one side
2016-04-18T10:56:40 < lorenzo> since it would just go off in the middle of the night for no reason
2016-04-18T10:56:41 < jadew> on the other side conductive
2016-04-18T10:56:46 < jadew> and you measure resistance
2016-04-18T10:57:20 < jadew> the zipper head would make contact between the two strips
2016-04-18T10:57:47 < jadew> lorenzo, why did they do that?
2016-04-18T10:58:17 < jadew> ohsix, I'm sure a conductive material can be found that bends nicely
2016-04-18T10:58:24 < lorenzo> jadew: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nest-Protect-Fail
2016-04-18T10:58:27 < jadew> like a metal mesh
2016-04-18T11:01:14 < jadew> well, I figured that both sides would be connected to eachother through the zipper
2016-04-18T11:01:19 < jadew> and you'd measure the total resistance
2016-04-18T11:01:32 < jadew> one side can have ~0 Ohms, but it doesn't really matter
2016-04-18T11:02:07 < jpa-> maybe you could have some spring-loaded feeler that will poke out the zipper when it is open, and detect that using a microswitch?
2016-04-18T11:02:40 < jadew> jpa-, that would also work for fully unzipped
2016-04-18T11:03:20 < jadew> belt tension would be the same, even with the zipper open
2016-04-18T11:03:21 < lorenzo> air flow then
2016-04-18T11:03:26 < jadew> hah
2016-04-18T11:03:30 < lorenzo> or humidity delta
2016-04-18T11:03:36 < jadew> that's how I once detected I had my zipper open
2016-04-18T11:03:49 < jadew> but I was wearing no underpants
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2016-04-18T11:04:45 < lorenzo> problem about the humidity sensor is response time
2016-04-18T11:04:55 < jadew> you can measure the distance with laser
2016-04-18T11:05:52 < jadew> you can transform it into 4 long potentiometers
2016-04-18T11:06:10 < jadew> odds of all of them failing would be fairly low
2016-04-18T11:06:23 < lorenzo> how do we make it tweet when outside the house?
2016-04-18T11:06:32 < jadew> when your zipper stops tweeting, you know it's time for a new pair of jeans
2016-04-18T11:07:11 < lorenzo> yeah some ble thing
2016-04-18T11:07:28 < lorenzo> of course we won't have a charger port nor user replaceable battery
2016-04-18T11:07:35 < lorenzo> when it stops working user buys new pants right
2016-04-18T11:07:41 < jadew> oh, bathrooms could have a RFID kind of thing that would trigger them when you exit
2016-04-18T11:08:00 < jadew> so it only alerts you if you go over that threshold with it open
2016-04-18T11:08:47 < lorenzo> ohsix: yes, three tiers: kit only, kit + pants, kit + pants + Beats headphones
2016-04-18T11:08:56 < jadew> if you throw in a hormone level detector it can also tweet things like "I want to be opened! NOW."
2016-04-18T11:09:27 < lorenzo> jadew: you could throw in a DNA sequencer and make it predict your cancer too
2016-04-18T11:09:52 < jadew> lorenzo, I thought this was a serious discussion
2016-04-18T11:10:08 < lorenzo> (are hormone level sensors even a thing? :D)
2016-04-18T11:10:27 < jadew> I don't know :P
2016-04-18T11:10:48 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-18T11:10:55 < lorenzo> yeah that's the point of it
2016-04-18T11:11:01 < lorenzo> until someone takes it seriously and puts on a kickstarter
2016-04-18T11:11:59 < jadew> let's do it, dongs can post it cuz they'll never follow him with the law suits all the way to Japan and we split the money
2016-04-18T11:12:06 < jadew> -2% for dongs
2016-04-18T11:13:22 < jadew> they would have a NOT switch
2016-04-18T11:13:30 < jadew> "Zipper NOT open."
2016-04-18T11:13:46 < jadew> "NOT open enoguh."
2016-04-18T11:13:49 < jadew> lol
2016-04-18T11:14:55 < jadew> for chicks it could have a whistle function too, so they can quickly find their clothes in unfamiliar places
2016-04-18T11:15:05 < jadew> *when in unfamiliar places
2016-04-18T11:15:42 < jadew> that would be hilareous
2016-04-18T11:16:08 < jadew> - Why are you whistleing? - My zipper beebs back.
2016-04-18T11:16:12 < jadew> *beeps
2016-04-18T11:16:21 < jadew> ah, nice
2016-04-18T11:16:30 < lorenzo> pretty sure I've seen an whistle activated switch
2016-04-18T11:17:00 < lorenzo> done with a freescale cortex m4 + cmsis dsp
2016-04-18T11:17:06 < lorenzo> was on hackaday or similar
2016-04-18T11:18:06 < jadew> pretty sure all the patents for noise activated shit were taken in 70s and 80s
2016-04-18T11:19:11 < jadew> my first contact with electronics was with a whistle activated keychain locator
2016-04-18T11:19:33 < jadew> well, two of them, they were both broken and I fixed them when my parents were not at home
2016-04-18T11:19:51 < jadew> I snuck into my dad's toolbox and got the soldering gun
2016-04-18T11:20:31 < jadew> don't really know how I did it, but one of them worked when I was done with them
2016-04-18T11:21:03 < jadew> told my parents when they came home and they were like O_O
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2016-04-18T11:23:39 < jadew> heh, I don't remember having them for long
2016-04-18T11:23:47 < jadew> pretty sure I lost them very fast
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2016-04-18T11:25:06 < lorenzo> must have been some sort of cheap opamp with a bandpass in the loop
2016-04-18T11:25:31 < lorenzo> can smell that ua741 from here
2016-04-18T11:27:25 < lorenzo> tl082 is jfet input and ~3mA iirc
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2016-04-18T11:29:12 < lorenzo> then even a basic schmitt trigger would do
2016-04-18T11:29:20 < lorenzo> dual opamp, one to amplify the electret mic
2016-04-18T11:29:39 < lorenzo> and another one for the comparator with the other amp in, and a reference voltage set via trimmer
2016-04-18T11:29:40 < lorenzo> whatever
2016-04-18T11:30:34 < lorenzo> can even get one and take it apart
2016-04-18T11:31:17 < lorenzo> but yeah at 0.77$ it's probably going to be a pcb with some epoxy gunked chip on board
2016-04-18T11:31:18 < dongs> sup stoners
2016-04-18T11:32:12 < englishman> innovating a DMM with no display, it tweets measurements to Facebook only
2016-04-18T11:33:06 < PeterM> englishman, and the probes are just bare copper wires
2016-04-18T11:33:22 < lorenzo> what probes, wireless of course, it's 2016
2016-04-18T11:33:30 < PeterM> lorenzo, an hero
2016-04-18T11:33:33 < englishman> yes
2016-04-18T11:33:36 < englishman> wireless dmm
2016-04-18T11:33:55 < PeterM> how is the user gonna an hero if wireless
2016-04-18T11:50:30 < dongs> i didnt know there was a STM32 in that car
2016-04-18T11:52:06 < PeterM> is there anyway in altium to when pouring a polygon, to take hte nets of the pads its filling over?
2016-04-18T11:52:29 < dongs> you mean other than manually typing the net in?
2016-04-18T11:52:34 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-18T11:52:39 < dongs> dont think so
2016-04-18T11:52:52 < PeterM> would make shit much quicker
2016-04-18T11:53:19 < PeterM> because jsut highlight net, pour poly, pour and make sure you only go over what you want and done
2016-04-18T11:53:30 < PeterM> instead of finding hte net i nthe netlist
2016-04-18T12:06:41 < dongs> "the act of autism6 killed chats"
2016-04-18T12:11:56 < jadew> that would mean too many wires
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2016-04-18T12:12:32 < englishman> step #1 is to go on kickstarter
2016-04-18T12:12:47 < jadew> yeah
2016-04-18T12:13:08 < englishman> Step #2 is go to ykk with your millions and have them do it
2016-04-18T12:13:41 < jadew> the potentiometer approach can sleep a lot too, you just need a low power comparator, a LPF and a shmitt trigger
2016-04-18T12:13:55 < jadew> and the comparator can wake up the MCU
2016-04-18T12:13:59 < PeterM> step 3 is to not actualyl go to ykk, but instead get your yacht and sail into the sunset
2016-04-18T12:15:45 < jadew> you put them on tight jeans, hipsters will love them
2016-04-18T12:17:20 < jadew> you'd have youtube clips of people playing the zipper
2016-04-18T12:17:32 < jadew> that would make the incomes skyrocket
2016-04-18T12:17:51 < jadew> lol
2016-04-18T12:18:54 < jadew> this actually sounds like a money cow, but there's a problem
2016-04-18T12:19:30 < jadew> all the zippers we thought about until now have to be manufactured like that
2016-04-18T12:21:14 < jadew> spy zipper: covertly sends GPS location when your g/f's zipper gets open
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2016-04-18T12:23:05 < jadew> I like the results
2016-04-18T12:23:30 < jadew> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1aALHJVXXXXXGaXXXq6xXFXXXc/2015-women-waist-training-corsets-hot-shapers-black-font-b-girdles-b-font-body-shapers-for.jpg
2016-04-18T12:25:29 < jadew> and also this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pixee-fox-woman-who-ribs-7051256
2016-04-18T12:32:54 < jadew> what do you mean?
2016-04-18T12:33:38 < jadew> it doesn't
2016-04-18T12:33:49 < jadew> what's 33?
2016-04-18T12:34:02 < jadew> the line?
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2016-04-18T12:37:32 < upgrdman> so whats going on now
2016-04-18T12:37:43 < upgrdman> you want a zipper status detector or someshit?
2016-04-18T12:38:03 < jadew> that tweets and sings
2016-04-18T12:38:30 < upgrdman> ohsix, get a job as an EE. lots of money to be had
2016-04-18T12:38:54 < jadew> not as much as you'd make with a singing zipper
2016-04-18T12:39:05 < jadew> that's internet connected
2016-04-18T12:40:09 < jadew> lol
2016-04-18T12:40:12 < jadew> that movie was great
2016-04-18T12:40:16 < jadew> I'm gonna watch it again
2016-04-18T12:40:21 < upgrdman> what movie
2016-04-18T12:40:26 < jadew> idiocracy
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2016-04-18T12:40:54 < jadew> saw what? idiocracy?
2016-04-18T12:41:56 < jadew> I think everyone should see it, it's "Forever Young", but good
2016-04-18T12:42:33 < jadew> yeah :P
2016-04-18T12:42:38 < jadew> I like that too
2016-04-18T12:43:07 < jadew> might have cried when I first saw it, but I was very young so it's excusable
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2016-04-18T12:45:19 < jadew> is that a spoiler?
2016-04-18T12:45:26 < jadew> cuz I don't want to remember too much of it
2016-04-18T12:45:38 < jadew> I'll see it after the movie :P
2016-04-18T12:46:11 < jadew> already started the movie :P
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2016-04-18T13:16:32 < dongs> about fucking time
2016-04-18T13:17:47 < dongs> the "about fucking time" was re: your aborted bbl
2016-04-18T13:22:02 < jpa-> http://imgur.com/gallery/biJZQ8C   nooooo
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2016-04-18T14:50:18 < mitrax> crt: i have a false arm
2016-04-18T14:51:17 < mitrax> i wanted to get some shit done today and NOT look at this channel
2016-04-18T14:51:20  * mitrax failed :(
2016-04-18T14:51:56 < mitrax> crt: yeah actual work, not defecating
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2016-04-18T14:56:15 < mitrax> crt: code, a gui front end for openocd to flash boards at work and keeps track of cpu-id / internal serial num, print labels, with a simple file based config system that defines which firmwares are used by which product revisions etc...
2016-04-18T14:58:16 < karlp> mitrax: do you detect hardware rev from firmware?
2016-04-18T14:59:14 < mitrax> karlp: the firmware has a header with a target platform uid with min and max rev compatibility
2016-04-18T14:59:40 < mitrax> karlp: so no
2016-04-18T15:00:06 < Laurenceb_> can anyone convert an amr file to a wav for me?
2016-04-18T15:00:06 < mitrax> karlp: or well... assuming it maches the min and max rev it could check which one it is at runtime i guess
2016-04-18T15:01:22 < mitrax> karlp: i don't want the bootloader to let the user flash an app firmware that isn't intended for the board
2016-04-18T15:02:39 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: you mean, open it in audacity and save it back?
2016-04-18T15:02:51 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting codec errors
2016-04-18T15:03:01 < Laurenceb_> http://filebin.ca/2eB9evn3SwGH/Record000.amr
2016-04-18T15:05:01 < jadew> ohsix_, did you google it?
2016-04-18T15:06:22 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: VLC seems to play it, though i just hear "click click click"
2016-04-18T15:06:39 < Laurenceb_> sounds about right
2016-04-18T15:09:42 < Laurenceb_> doesnt workfor me tho :S
2016-04-18T15:11:01 < jadew> http://sebastianlyserena.dk/
2016-04-18T15:11:14 < Laurenceb_> heh this works http://www.online-convert.com/
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2016-04-18T15:17:32 < Laurenceb_> clicks are a perman00b hitting something with a mallet
2016-04-18T15:17:38 < karlp> mitrax: so your hardware includes ways it can recognise the baord rev then?
2016-04-18T15:17:42 < Laurenceb_> he only had his phone with him on site
2016-04-18T15:17:44 < Laurenceb_> fail
2016-04-18T15:18:05 < Laurenceb_> now I have to match frequency spectrum to FEA models
2016-04-18T15:19:33 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: i bet the AMR compression will help a lot in that :P
2016-04-18T15:20:17 < zyp> karlp, good use for the OTP memory
2016-04-18T15:20:49 < Laurenceb_> jpa-: spectrum looks good enough for comparison to theory
2016-04-18T15:21:42 < jpa-> i've thought about using 3 gpio pins for hw rev identification.. hooking them high/low/float/together gives quite many combinations
2016-04-18T15:21:48 < mitrax> karlp: well this is something generic for multiple boards, so not necessarily, most of the time the rev id is written to flash when you upload the bootloader the first time, some boards could have a mean to identify revision num
2016-04-18T15:24:02 < zyp> I've been thinking about doing a system that writes board model, revision and serial number to OTP
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2016-04-18T15:24:31 < zyp> combined with storing info in a db and printing a label for the board
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2016-04-18T15:25:00 < mitrax> that's basically what i'm doing
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2016-04-18T15:25:23 < jpa-> yeah, i do the same
2016-04-18T15:25:40 < Laurenceb_> I've been fapping and watching pron
2016-04-18T15:25:56 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: oh so that's what those noises were?
2016-04-18T15:25:57 < Laurenceb_> also FEA lulz
2016-04-18T15:26:08 < Laurenceb_> mitrax: FEA of muh dick
2016-04-18T15:26:10 < jpa-> i also write a hyper-dyper secure anti-pirate key to the OTP, calculated from chip's unique id :P
2016-04-18T15:26:23 < zyp> haha
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2016-04-18T15:27:43 < jpa-> (basically hash(key + unique_id) where key is different for each byte, 16 bytes total; software only checks first byte now, this way we can go full-FTDI and brick stuff later if wanted ;)
2016-04-18T15:28:57 < zyp> haha
2016-04-18T15:29:05 < zyp> that's cute
2016-04-18T15:29:21 < karlp> yeah, currently I've got different firmware files for each rev, and "flash the right file for the board in front of you"
2016-04-18T15:31:14 < karlp> well, it's not end users, so hass't been a problem so far...
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2016-04-18T15:32:14 < qyx> jpa-: does the software have the key inside to check the hash?
2016-04-18T15:32:43 < jpa-> qyx: yes; but only for byte1 now.. so if one were to clone it, a future software update could add key for byte2 and check that etc.
2016-04-18T15:33:42 < qyx> and if the cloner replaces the key inside the softwater?
2016-04-18T15:33:46 < qyx> er software
2016-04-18T15:34:07 < jpa-> or just jumps over the check, yeah
2016-04-18T15:34:19 < jpa-> it kind of relies on people wanting the firmware updates
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2016-04-18T15:36:57 < upgrdman> for bulk, low-esr capacitance, if you want SMD, is tantalum still the best value?
2016-04-18T15:37:16 < upgrdman> or are those solid polymer alum elect caps better?
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2016-04-18T15:38:56 < jpa-> the modern trend is "don't use tantalum, it will short-circuit" where i work :P
2016-04-18T15:39:22 < upgrdman> ive heard that for years
2016-04-18T15:39:42 < upgrdman> and admit they burn quite nicely if mounted backwards
2016-04-18T15:40:06 < jpa-> how "bulk" is bulk here? 100µF? 10000µF?
2016-04-18T15:42:16 < upgrdman> mmm >10,000uF
2016-04-18T15:42:26 < upgrdman> like 10k to 100k uF
2016-04-18T15:42:47 < Thorn> what voltage
2016-04-18T15:43:12 < upgrdman> up to 35V
2016-04-18T15:43:18 < upgrdman> DC
2016-04-18T15:43:19 < qyx> ok, no supercaps then
2016-04-18T15:43:24 < jpa-> sounds like electrolytic caps to me
2016-04-18T15:43:36 < PeterM> yeah lectros or alu poly is the way to go
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2016-04-18T15:43:46 < jpa-> solid or not, if you get good ones it doesn't matter that much
2016-04-18T15:44:04 < PeterM> i assume at 10mf or 100mf you dont ACTUALLY need that low ESR
2016-04-18T15:44:45 < upgrdman> not sure. for the current pet project, i just need/want some caps for an h-bridge
2016-04-18T15:45:05 < PeterM> alu polys dont really age, whereas normal lectros do, so if you want loooong life, alu poly
2016-04-18T15:45:08 < upgrdman> powering a smallish (<200W) BLDC motor.
2016-04-18T15:45:19 < jpa-> h-bridge powering bldc?
2016-04-18T15:45:25 < PeterM> but at 10mf to 100mf then you're looking at normal lecrtos
2016-04-18T15:45:44 < upgrdman> but i want to buy in bulk to save, so i kinda want to buy a reel so i want to buy caps that are versatile
2016-04-18T15:45:54 < upgrdman> jpa-, well three half bridges, but ya
2016-04-18T15:45:59 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-18T15:46:22 < jpa-> i have 2x 6800µF on my ebike (250W 36V)
2016-04-18T15:46:33 < PeterM> well if you want a reel, you're gonna buy normal lectros because a reel of alu polys that will get your 10mfd @ 35v will be a deposit on a house
2016-04-18T15:46:37 < jpa-> though with thick wires to lifepo4 battery it doesn't really need that much
2016-04-18T15:47:08 < jpa-> that size caps start to be large enough that i would go through-hole instead of smd
2016-04-18T15:47:42 < PeterM> through hole electros is almost a must for anythign suffring vibration
2016-04-18T15:47:53 < PeterM> smd caps tend to sheer off easily
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2016-04-18T15:49:26 < Thorn> grow a forest of 50 parallel caps
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2016-04-18T15:49:34 < Thorn> you can arrange them in a pretty shape
2016-04-18T15:50:10 < upgrdman> inorite
2016-04-18T15:50:16 < upgrdman> i have a bunch of 35V 10uF MLCCs
2016-04-18T15:50:33 < upgrdman> i should just populate the entire back side of the PCB with them
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2016-04-18T15:50:56 < jpa-> you can stack them into towers
2016-04-18T15:50:57 < upgrdman> hmmm
2016-04-18T15:51:00 < jpa-> make it look like manhattan
2016-04-18T15:51:16 < upgrdman> in fact, if i want to be versatile, maybe i should buy a reel of like 50uF 35V MLCCs.
2016-04-18T15:51:28 < upgrdman> that'll be very slow ESR and ESL
2016-04-18T15:51:36 < upgrdman> so good for many apps
2016-04-18T15:51:47 < PeterM> upgrdman, if you want them to actually have that 50uf that'll be pricey
2016-04-18T15:52:21 < upgrdman> ya, dc derating :/
2016-04-18T15:52:54 < Thorn> try to find a lcr meter with dc bias and measure them @ 35V
2016-04-18T15:53:20 < Thorn> handheld ebay meters don't have bias :/
2016-04-18T15:53:28 < upgrdman> only LCR meter i have access to is my Smart Tweezers. no dc bias setting
2016-04-18T15:53:50 < upgrdman> and prolly testing at like 2V or someshit :/
2016-04-18T15:54:03 < PeterM> somewhere around $0.3 ea was the cheapest i could get on decent mlcc (1812 size, 50v 22u)
2016-04-18T15:54:41 < PeterM> 35v were around 12c ea though
2016-04-18T15:54:44 < upgrdman> crt, graph in datasheet, but at half rated voltage, capacitace is often down to 20-30%
2016-04-18T15:55:17 < PeterM> depends, if its a 100v cap at half rated voltage its more liek 20%
2016-04-18T15:55:35 < PeterM> to 5%
2016-04-18T15:56:18 < PeterM> i have considered getting the mlccs in the little frame
2016-04-18T15:56:27 < PeterM> jsut to see what sodler they use etc
2016-04-18T15:57:02 < upgrdman> iirc i paid like $0.08 each for some 1206 35V 10uF muratas.
2016-04-18T15:58:24 < upgrdman> i bought some of those stacked caps from AVX, for my induction heater. looked kinda neat, but the solder on the frame melts kinda easy
2016-04-18T15:58:48 < upgrdman> so for reflow it should be fine, but if youre hand soldering, be careful
2016-04-18T15:58:51 < PeterM> 10uf 35v 1206? youre looking at maybe 1uf at 35v
2016-04-18T15:59:31 < PeterM> also 1206 is super cheap compared to sizes above 1206
2016-04-18T15:59:37 < upgrdman> ya i know
2016-04-18T15:59:50 < upgrdman> thats why i bought 35V caps for use at 3.3V - 10V
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2016-04-18T16:00:05 < Thorn> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-ELNA-3300UF-35V-Red-Audio-Grade-Electrolyt-ic-Capacitors-HIFI-diy-/301809534440
2016-04-18T16:00:30 < Thorn> only $8 lol
2016-04-18T16:00:34 < upgrdman> i just bought them so i can be lazy and not worry about polarity with tants
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2016-04-18T16:03:24 < PeterM> i odnt mind using tants, i often use them when i have a device with a super noisy/unreliable powersupply, so diode before the regulator to make sure no back flow, and a big fat tant after the regulator for some holdup
2016-04-18T16:03:54 < upgrdman> PeterM, hmm where were you seeing the $0.30 pricing? from cn, or what? mouser looks expensive as fuck
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2016-04-18T16:05:13 < PeterM> that what my chinaguy wanted for kemet
2016-04-18T16:07:23 < upgrdman> hmm is "JB" dielectric good
2016-04-18T16:07:23 < upgrdman> never heard of it before
2016-04-18T16:08:34 < Thorn> maybe it's a company (jb capacitors)
2016-04-18T16:09:01 < PeterM> nah its a TDK specific marking/grade
2016-04-18T16:10:19 < PeterM> iirc its lower tempco, but min and max temp aint as good
2016-04-18T16:10:43 < PeterM> although that may be ch i cant remember
2016-04-18T16:10:57 < upgrdman> 35V 22uF 0805 @ $0.30 each if i buy a rell
2016-04-18T16:11:00 < upgrdman> reel
2016-04-18T16:11:07 < upgrdman> 0805 is kinda impressive
2016-04-18T16:11:18 < PeterM> ....
2016-04-18T16:11:38 < Thorn> smaller -> worse derating
2016-04-18T16:11:57 < PeterM> at 22u 0805 you can write fucking 100uf 0805 it doesnt amtter, you're not gonna fuckin get it
2016-04-18T16:12:27 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-18T16:12:33 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-18T16:12:54 < upgrdman> hehe the 1206 version is same price for a reel
2016-04-18T16:13:37 < PeterM> you might actually make it to double digits at less than 10v!
2016-04-18T16:13:50 < qyx> mhm, has anyone used semantic versioning for hardware?
2016-04-18T16:14:01 < qyx> related the the OTP hw version thing
2016-04-18T16:17:01 < ohsix_> u wot m8
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2016-04-18T16:33:34 < englishman> 22u, at 7uV dc bias
2016-04-18T16:34:09 < englishman> sup lcd
2016-04-18T16:34:32 < englishman> grillin
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2016-04-18T16:43:36 < Laurenceb_> got any coinz m8?
2016-04-18T16:43:58 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRgYjHNQxc
2016-04-18T16:44:29 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-18T16:49:37 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OtzTjUWOmLE#t=334
2016-04-18T16:52:02 < Laurenceb_> lul hadnt seen that one
2016-04-18T16:52:28 < Laurenceb_>  "Still better that metacritic"
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2016-04-18T17:02:23 < kakimir> I wonder is there is some desktop application for indicatin highlitin in irc
2016-04-18T17:02:42 < ReadError> PeterM !!!
2016-04-18T17:04:57 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-QRpcHjd/0/X3/CA_04181610041416-X3.jpg
2016-04-18T17:05:01 < ReadError> did this with a file lol
2016-04-18T17:05:23 < PeterM> not too shabby
2016-04-18T17:05:48 < ReadError> took a while but should work
2016-04-18T17:06:20 < ReadError> put on motards
2016-04-18T17:07:07 < PeterM> what kind file?  a half moon or a triangle might help square up the bottom a bit
2016-04-18T17:07:18 < PeterM> but looks good enough
2016-04-18T17:07:27 < ReadError> hmm
2016-04-18T17:07:31 < ReadError> one of those flat ones
2016-04-18T17:07:35 < Flecks> many irc clients have systray icons...
2016-04-18T17:07:40 < ReadError> w/ 4 cutting sides
2016-04-18T17:07:51 < upgrdman> basrard?
2016-04-18T17:07:52 < ReadError> yea need to clean it up was tired of it tho
2016-04-18T17:08:04 < ReadError> i dont know much abuot files
2016-04-18T17:08:09 < ReadError> i know there are swiss files
2016-04-18T17:08:09 < upgrdman> err bastard
2016-04-18T17:08:13 < ReadError> which are nice
2016-04-18T17:08:13 < PeterM> standard  flat file, bastard just referres to the roughness
2016-04-18T17:08:22 < ReadError> for finishing stuff anyways
2016-04-18T17:08:28 < upgrdman> oh
2016-04-18T17:08:38 < kakimir> ReadError: pics of project!
2016-04-18T17:09:02 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-6drSfkR/0/X3/CA_04131614265940-X3.jpg
2016-04-18T17:09:06 < PeterM> bastard>2nd cut >smooth
2016-04-18T17:09:08 < ReadError> dont have much else
2016-04-18T17:09:34 < PeterM> show us your box of assplosions
2016-04-18T17:09:41 < PeterM> err lipos
2016-04-18T17:09:42 < kakimir> is that carbon fibbers?
2016-04-18T17:09:46 < ReadError> hasnt come yet
2016-04-18T17:09:49 < ReadError> no its not carbon
2016-04-18T17:09:56 < ReadError> its some other material
2016-04-18T17:10:09 < PeterM> jsut fiberglass with black epoxy probably
2016-04-18T17:10:13 < kakimir> plywood and plastic
2016-04-18T17:10:26 < kakimir> and fibbeglass
2016-04-18T17:11:17 < kakimir> ReadError: how much power it has?
2016-04-18T17:11:28 < ReadError> http://www.trampaboards.com/mountainboard-black-decks-c-23.html
2016-04-18T17:11:33 < ReadError> its not wood either
2016-04-18T17:11:36 < ReadError> im not sure what it is
2016-04-18T17:13:03 < kakimir> secret fibers
2016-04-18T17:13:08 < kakimir> that fuse together
2016-04-18T17:13:31 < PeterM> it really jsut looks liek fiberglass and black coloured epoxy...
2016-04-18T17:13:47 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-18T17:13:51 < kakimir> or kevlar
2016-04-18T17:14:36 < kakimir> their secret fiber
2016-04-18T17:14:39 < kakimir> glass
2016-04-18T17:14:48 < PeterM> possibly, but unlikely glass fiber reinforced nylon
2016-04-18T17:14:58 < upgrdman> isnt kevlar/aramid like a yellow/orange color
2016-04-18T17:15:13 < kakimir> yellowish
2016-04-18T17:16:01 < ReadError> The TRAMPA™ deck is made from a re-enforced glass and plastic thermo composite, which was originally developed for light-weight military applications, its special because it gives superior strength to weight ratios whilst (unlike carbon fibre) remaining flexible.
2016-04-18T17:16:07 < ReadError> hmm
2016-04-18T17:16:18 < ReadError> plastic thermo composite
2016-04-18T17:16:21 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-18T17:16:29 < upgrdman> marketing want
2016-04-18T17:16:41 < PeterM> probably jsut glass fiber reinforced nylon them
2016-04-18T17:16:50 < upgrdman> also CF can be very flexible depending on the fiber orientation
2016-04-18T17:17:37 < upgrdman> i think i still have a couple square yards of 3k carbon fabric
2016-04-18T17:17:45 < PeterM> oddly though, glassfiber reinforced plastics are a bit more flexible
2016-04-18T17:17:58 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-18T17:18:20 < ReadError> yea its made to flex a bit
2016-04-18T17:18:27 < upgrdman> i remember making a rc heli canopy mold and vacuum bagging a fiberglass canopy
2016-04-18T17:18:35 < upgrdman> fun times
2016-04-18T17:18:44 < upgrdman> i miss having a garage :(
2016-04-18T17:19:05 < PeterM> carbonfiber reinforcement has better tensile strength - so better impact resistance
2016-04-18T17:20:31 < PeterM> sheds are 10/10
2016-04-18T17:20:34 < PeterM> every man needs a shed
2016-04-18T17:21:40 < PeterM> 2 secs, checking if there is a #sheds
2016-04-18T17:22:25 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-18T17:23:01 < PeterM> there is no #sheds
2016-04-18T17:23:03 < PeterM> CRT
2016-04-18T17:23:06 < PeterM> CRT
2016-04-18T17:23:09 < PeterM> QUICK
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2016-04-18T17:25:45 < PeterM> fukken get in here #sheds
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2016-04-18T17:26:14 < ReadError> i got a nice vac now
2016-04-18T17:26:21 < ReadError> i want to try doing some moulds
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2016-04-18T17:30:28 < karlp> would love a shed.
2016-04-18T17:31:04 < karlp> carbon fibre and glass fibres are both used in fibre reinfornced concrete.
2016-04-18T17:31:56 < kakimir> carbon fibre reinforced steel would be interesting
2016-04-18T17:32:32 < kakimir> I think the carbon like... melts into steel
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2016-04-18T17:35:26 < kakimir> did you know that carbon fibre is made of polymer strings?
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2016-04-18T17:35:47 < kakimir> they do some heat processing and baths and stuff for it
2016-04-18T17:36:05 < kakimir> and it comes out as carbon fibre in other end
2016-04-18T17:38:30 < trepidacious> I did not know that...
2016-04-18T17:39:38 < kakimir> how it's made - carbon fiber
2016-04-18T17:39:51 < kakimir> looks trivial
2016-04-18T17:40:41 < Laurenceb_> I've made a few CF parts
2016-04-18T17:40:46 < Laurenceb_> wet layup is pretty easy
2016-04-18T17:42:40 < kakimir> I have CF and resin
2016-04-18T17:42:41 < kakimir> but
2016-04-18T17:43:00 < kakimir> I dont have gear and accetory materials
2016-04-18T17:43:16 < Laurenceb_> I just used polythene
2016-04-18T17:43:22 < Laurenceb_> n00b but it works
2016-04-18T17:43:23 < kakimir> and no mold materials and waxes and stuff
2016-04-18T17:43:32 < kakimir> used it for what?
2016-04-18T17:43:34 < Laurenceb_> depends what you are molding
2016-04-18T17:43:41 < Laurenceb_> to cover the mold
2016-04-18T17:44:25 < kakimir> sounds dirty
2016-04-18T17:45:12 < Laurenceb_> I managed to get good results, but had simple geometry
2016-04-18T17:45:17 < kakimir> basically plastic bag?
2016-04-18T17:45:21 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-18T17:45:27 < kakimir> rocket part?
2016-04-18T17:45:33 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-18T17:45:39 < kakimir> pics?
2016-04-18T17:45:44 < Laurenceb_> you are limited how much you can stretch the plastic
2016-04-18T17:46:00 < Laurenceb_> dont have any to hand
2016-04-18T17:46:04 < kakimir> how about condom?
2016-04-18T17:46:12 < Laurenceb_> lul maybe
2016-04-18T17:46:16 < kakimir> leave the wax on
2016-04-18T17:47:03 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwtQFfFNTQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=1832
2016-04-18T17:47:07 < Laurenceb_> the black part there
2016-04-18T17:47:30 < Laurenceb_> its a CF/Alu honeycomb T section
2016-04-18T17:49:42 < kakimir> did you use vacuum
2016-04-18T17:49:50 < Laurenceb_> no
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2016-04-18T17:50:27 < Laurenceb_> polythene - epoxy - CF - epoxy -CF - epoxy - polythene
2016-04-18T17:50:40 < Laurenceb_> I used slow setting epoxy and left it for 30 minutes for air to come out
2016-04-18T17:51:30 < Laurenceb_> there are a few pinholes but structurally its ok
2016-04-18T17:52:54 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-CFM-1-4HP-Rotary-Vane-Deep-Vacuum-Pump-AC-A-C-HVAC-Air-Refrigerant-R410a-R134-/360644211571
2016-04-18T17:53:10 < Laurenceb_> heh seems overkill for a beginner
2016-04-18T17:53:28 < Laurenceb_> I'd but some CF and resin and try with epoxy
2016-04-18T17:53:41 < Laurenceb_> the layup is more of a challenge at first
2016-04-18T17:54:02 < Laurenceb_> how to cut and position fabric so it doesnt crease and you get good strength
2016-04-18T17:54:15 < Laurenceb_> I'd only worry about vacuum etc if you get to pro level
2016-04-18T17:56:53 < kakimir> I would worry about it right from the start
2016-04-18T17:57:00 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/dzwPAtW.png
2016-04-18T17:57:04 < ReadError> god damn hairy potter
2016-04-18T17:57:09 < kakimir> I want to make purfect glider frames and stuff
2016-04-18T17:57:33 < kakimir> tie is little bit off
2016-04-18T17:58:10 < kakimir> if I get it going I do everything out of GF and CF
2016-04-18T17:58:17 < kakimir> because I bought it cheap once
2016-04-18T17:58:31 < kakimir> I have excess
2016-04-18T17:58:41 < ReadError> high end gliders
2016-04-18T17:58:47 < ReadError> you need to cut foam cores
2016-04-18T17:58:55 < ReadError> then glass them
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2016-04-18T17:59:06 < kakimir> hich tech honeycomb materials
2016-04-18T17:59:13 < kakimir> and high tensile foams
2016-04-18T18:00:03 < Sync> Laurenceb_: you need to worry about vacuum at hobby levels too
2016-04-18T18:00:18 < Sync> otherwise your resin to fiber content is going to suck balls
2016-04-18T18:00:19 < kakimir> if you want any quality
2016-04-18T18:00:55 < kakimir> fifty sixty is the ideal isn't it?
2016-04-18T18:01:53 < kakimir> if your resin suck and you suck you have a lot more resin than fibre
2016-04-18T18:01:59 < Sync> you want as much fiber as you can get
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2016-04-18T18:02:20 < kakimir> but practically
2016-04-18T18:02:45 < kakimir> 5050 is good
2016-04-18T18:03:27 < Laurenceb_> oh this if for high spec gliders
2016-04-18T18:03:32 < Laurenceb_> *is
2016-04-18T18:03:46 < Laurenceb_> ok in that case you probably want it a bit more pro then :-/
2016-04-18T18:04:01 < Sync> I simulate the layups
2016-04-18T18:04:07 < Sync> cheap'n'easy
2016-04-18T18:04:37 < Laurenceb_> simulate?!
2016-04-18T18:04:45 < Sync> yes
2016-04-18T18:04:48 < kakimir> I think I need some tools to create basic shapes
2016-04-18T18:04:49 < Laurenceb_> you mean physical simulation with fabric?
2016-04-18T18:04:56 < kakimir> for molds
2016-04-18T18:05:01 < kakimir> from wood
2016-04-18T18:05:02 < kakimir> or so
2016-04-18T18:05:05 < Sync> yes Laurenceb_
2016-04-18T18:05:08 < Laurenceb_> ah ok
2016-04-18T18:05:14 < kakimir> for general enclosures and such
2016-04-18T18:05:20 < Laurenceb_> I thought you meant some sort of CAD tool lol
2016-04-18T18:05:40 < Sync> err of course with cad
2016-04-18T18:05:42 < Sync> wtf else?
2016-04-18T18:05:52 < Laurenceb_> oh
2016-04-18T18:06:02 < Laurenceb_> sounds hardcore
2016-04-18T18:06:06 < Laurenceb_> what do you use?
2016-04-18T18:06:21 < kakimir> there is special mold material that looks like wood
2016-04-18T18:06:37 < Sync> NX
2016-04-18T18:06:40 < kakimir> but is actually some sort of very dense foam or so
2016-04-18T18:06:43 < Sync> ureol
2016-04-18T18:06:57 < Sync> but you can also use PU infuesd plywood
2016-04-18T18:07:21 < kakimir> you can infuse PU in plywood?
2016-04-18T18:07:24 < Laurenceb_> sounds interesting, is it complex to configure?
2016-04-18T18:07:57 < Sync> to get actual realworld validatable values, yes
2016-04-18T18:08:05 < Sync> to make pretty pictures to give you some feel, no
2016-04-18T18:08:13 < Laurenceb_> haha ok
2016-04-18T18:08:14 < Sync> yes kakimir
2016-04-18T18:08:26 < Sync> well, oftentimes it is enough to get a rough estimate
2016-04-18T18:08:37 < Sync> "lets put some more plys here"
2016-04-18T18:08:47 < Sync> or "how does the orientation matter in the corner
2016-04-18T18:08:48 < Sync> "
2016-04-18T18:08:51 < Sync> shiet like that
2016-04-18T18:09:25 < Laurenceb_> I guess I don't understand how to avoid creases in general :P
2016-04-18T18:09:30 < kakimir> how you get PU inside plywood?
2016-04-18T18:09:50 < Sync> by sucking
2016-04-18T18:09:54 < Laurenceb_> use multiple CF fabric sheets that can slide against one another?
2016-04-18T18:10:13 < Sync> why would you get creases?
2016-04-18T18:10:22 < Laurenceb_> or rips
2016-04-18T18:10:31 < Sync> are you using the wrong weave for the wrong job?
2016-04-18T18:10:31 < Laurenceb_> because the CF fabric is a sheet
2016-04-18T18:10:44 < Laurenceb_> oh I dunno lol
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2016-04-18T18:10:50 < kakimir> Sync: how long you need to suck in case you have something like 500mm plywood?
2016-04-18T18:11:00 < Laurenceb_> guess I need to read layup 101
2016-04-18T18:11:05 < kakimir> make holes in it?
2016-04-18T18:11:12 < Sync> 500mm is a single dimension
2016-04-18T18:11:37 < kakimir> 500mm x 500mm x something
2016-04-18T18:12:01 < kakimir> you make holes in it or channels some kind?
2016-04-18T18:12:08 < Sync> no
2016-04-18T18:12:19 < Laurenceb_> this is how I was doing it
2016-04-18T18:12:20 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdEjcNqyUMw
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2016-04-18T18:12:49 < kakimir> Sync: apply vacuum to center?
2016-04-18T18:13:16 < Sync> no, you just make sucky sucky to the container
2016-04-18T18:13:22 < Sync> http://www.oelkrugmasshemden.de/media/products/koeperbindung.jpg Laurenceb_ that is one of the weaves
2016-04-18T18:13:39 < Sync> http://www.r-g.de/w/images/thumb/5/53/Atlasbindung_1-7.jpg/350px-Atlasbindung_1-7.jpg that is another one
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2016-04-18T18:13:58 < Sync> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Leinwandbindung.png and that is the last
2016-04-18T18:13:59 < Laurenceb_> ah i see
2016-04-18T18:14:04 < Sync> the last will have the highest strength
2016-04-18T18:14:11 < Sync> but the lowest draping ability
2016-04-18T18:14:16 < Laurenceb_> yeah I have the last lol
2016-04-18T18:14:18 < Sync> rekt
2016-04-18T18:14:23 < Laurenceb_> no wonder I had some issues :P
2016-04-18T18:14:39 < Laurenceb_> heh that youtube is even more n00b than my parts
2016-04-18T18:14:41 < Sync> you will also need to cut the fabric to make it drape over complex shapes
2016-04-18T18:14:46 < Laurenceb_> ok
2016-04-18T18:15:04 < Sync> also super pro that they are only using nitrile gloves and touch the resin directly
2016-04-18T18:15:20 < Laurenceb_> "why not show the finished product up close?"
2016-04-18T18:15:28 < Laurenceb_> because it will be full of bubbles
2016-04-18T18:16:09 < Sync> also sanding crp without a resiprator is asking to get cancers
2016-04-18T18:16:48 < Laurenceb_> Carbon fibre particles are viewed to be non-carcinogenic according to wiki
2016-04-18T18:18:18 < Laurenceb_> but epoxy is nasty stuff
2016-04-18T18:18:35 < Sync> yes, but I think there is research showing that if they are lung going you will get asbestos type issues
2016-04-18T18:18:58 < Laurenceb_> I see
2016-04-18T18:18:59 < Sync> meh, I want to have a wind tunnel
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2016-04-18T18:25:53 < kakimir> Sync: does it suck easily?
2016-04-18T18:26:03 < PeterM> same, testing aerodynamics is nea....wait wrong wind tunnel
2016-04-18T18:27:20 < kakimir> Sync: leave plywood layers seperate for better infusion?
2016-04-18T18:28:27 < kakimir> is there video of process?
2016-04-18T18:30:22 < kakimir> how long it needs to dry
2016-04-18T18:30:54 < kakimir> epoxy based?
2016-04-18T18:31:26 < kakimir> okay PU is not 2component?
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2016-04-18T18:52:34 < ReadError> https://i.imgur.com/IO8LTDi.jpg
2016-04-18T18:55:20 < ReadError> https://i.imgur.com/LfGDLJe.jpg
2016-04-18T18:55:32 < aandrew> dude looks like he's 18 with a 70yo's face
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2016-04-18T19:34:03 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/wpMOIvg.jpg
2016-04-18T19:34:15 < Laurenceb_> youtube
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2016-04-18T19:39:40 < Laurenceb_> ok µSD card question
2016-04-18T19:39:53 < Laurenceb_> should all lines be pulled up on power up?
2016-04-18T19:40:13 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting inconsistent performance with some cards atm
2016-04-18T19:41:45 < karlp> you shoudl down the answers each time you get told :)
2016-04-18T19:42:08 < karlp> it's different, and the size of the pulls is different for mmc vs sd, and you need the paid version of the docs to find out what you're meant to have,
2016-04-18T19:42:23 < karlp> you have to infer it from example schematics and footnotes from vendors on their parts
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2016-04-18T19:44:16 < Laurenceb_> lul ok
2016-04-18T19:44:27 < Laurenceb_> trial and error then
2016-04-18T19:44:32 < karlp> what have you got now?
2016-04-18T19:48:28 < zyp> how about just buying the spec?
2016-04-18T19:48:36 < Laurenceb_> pullup on MISO, MOSI and CS
2016-04-18T19:48:47 < Laurenceb_> CLK is floating
2016-04-18T19:49:13 < Laurenceb_> zyp: no money - we are poor
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2016-04-18T19:49:28 < Laurenceb_> hope I get paid lul
2016-04-18T19:50:15 < kakimir> of what?
2016-04-18T19:51:26 < karlp> Laurenceb_: what do the docs of your part say to do? :)
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2016-04-18T19:53:05 < Laurenceb_> karlp: I dunno I'm testing with random ebay cards
2016-04-18T19:53:29 < Laurenceb_> wondered if its the cards or my board
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2016-04-18T20:00:15 < kakimir> Sync: me too
2016-04-18T20:00:26 < kakimir> what speedrange?
2016-04-18T20:00:38 < kakimir> and what chamber dimensions?
2016-04-18T20:02:29 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSZy8tzGOsw musicspams
2016-04-18T20:04:55 < Steffanx> and spam it is.
2016-04-18T20:11:11 < Laurenceb_> ok all my cards work now
2016-04-18T20:11:13 < Laurenceb_> v nice
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2016-04-18T20:16:56 < Steffanx> so what did mr Laurenceb_ do to fix it?
2016-04-18T20:17:25 < Laurenceb_> some other code screwing with pin states
2016-04-18T20:17:35 < Laurenceb_> the config I described seems to work fine
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2016-04-18T20:58:28 < kakimir> does run to line excecute the line it runs to?
2016-04-18T20:58:41 < kakimir> or just lines before the line it runs to?
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2016-04-18T21:09:42 < Steffanx> Better use your own brains mr kakimir
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2016-04-18T21:11:13 < Laurenceb_> found kakimir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZAlKsWj_U
2016-04-18T21:14:51 < Sync> kakimir: use regular birch plywood and 2 component PU casting resin with 24h cure time
2016-04-18T21:17:09 < kakimir> is there a way to automatize finding where program faults?
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2016-04-18T21:32:05 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/9vCQD10
2016-04-18T21:32:17 < Laurenceb_> illuminati confirmed
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2016-04-18T21:41:21 < kakimir> uart_fra_multiplier = ((uint64_t) err  * 256) / (uint64_t) (rate * div);
2016-04-18T21:41:28 < kakimir> this line hardfaults
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2016-04-18T21:41:45 < kakimir> nothing wrong with values
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2016-04-18T21:42:25 < kakimir> if multiply doesn't fit in variable? does it hardfault?
2016-04-18T21:42:31 < lorenzo> By default, all of the GPIO pins are configured as a GPIO input. The configuration of the pins is one-time programmable for each device.
2016-04-18T21:42:34 < lorenzo> wtf silabs cp2104
2016-04-18T21:43:32 < Steffanx> http://codepad.org/5tJwUjik kakimir
2016-04-18T21:44:50 < Steffanx> lorenzo is from iceland too? Not even spain?
2016-04-18T21:45:00 < Steffanx> Anyway, i see you have access to zypsnips, can you post http://codepad.org/5tJwUjik ?
2016-04-18T21:45:44 < lorenzo> will do
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2016-04-18T21:48:31 < lorenzo> Steffanx: done
2016-04-18T21:48:38 < Steffanx> Excellent.
2016-04-18T21:49:25 < Steffanx> oh, pull request. I thought you were able get it in without authorization
2016-04-18T21:50:09 < lorenzo> ping karlp
2016-04-18T21:50:15 < lorenzo> I think he's the only one with r/w access
2016-04-18T21:50:32 < Steffanx> i couldve done a pull request myself, but i tried to skip that step :P
2016-04-18T21:50:52 < lorenzo> ahh thought you hadn't got a github account
2016-04-18T21:51:27 < Steffanx> i have, but i forgot the password
2016-04-18T21:51:37 < Steffanx> and getting that back is a hell. because of the 2 way authentication crap.
2016-04-18T21:51:58 < Steffanx> Which is used some app for but i dont remember which one with and what account belongs to that.
2016-04-18T21:52:40 < zyp> google authenticator?
2016-04-18T21:53:06 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/gallery/r2AzEOr
2016-04-18T21:53:08 < Steffanx> probably.
2016-04-18T21:53:09 < Laurenceb_> attn dongs
2016-04-18T21:56:21 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlq92tQHVk
2016-04-18T21:56:32 < Laurenceb_> prior art of dickbutt
2016-04-18T21:56:45 < kakimir> I turned optimizations on
2016-04-18T21:56:54 < kakimir> guess what
2016-04-18T21:57:02 < kakimir> problem be gone
2016-04-18T21:57:26 < kakimir> it actually ran out of memory or flash or something
2016-04-18T21:59:14 < kakimir> it had some intense loops that uint64_t division
2016-04-18T22:01:37 < kakimir> it's not that often you need to turn optimizations on right at begining of debugging
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2016-04-19T00:00:44 < karlp> Steffanx: you can tell me to include things in zypsnips yourself you know ;)
2016-04-19T00:13:50 < Steffanx> I know, but i thought he had r/w access karlp
2016-04-19T00:14:22 < karlp> no, he just submitted a PR on github like anyone could.
2016-04-19T00:14:49 < karlp> someone like you? now, you, my special friend, you could maybe have commit access if you were very nice
2016-04-19T00:15:01 < Steffanx> I didnt know until he did the pull request
2016-04-19T00:15:37 < Steffanx> I am very nice, but its bedtime.
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2016-04-19T00:18:40 < lorenzo> karlp: is the comment unprofessionally professional enough this time
2016-04-19T00:18:40 < lorenzo> :D
2016-04-19T00:20:37 < karlp> it was, I just had some other stuff in a local copy, so I used mine instead sorry
2016-04-19T00:20:57 < lorenzo> karlp: haha no worries
2016-04-19T00:21:14 < karlp> Laurenceb_: I meant with what host, and it's docs, not the cards.
2016-04-19T00:22:16 < karlp> lorenzo: silabs is quirky with their OTP, some parts are eeprom, some are OTP...
2016-04-19T00:23:39 < lorenzo> silabs is quirky with everything :-) yesterday I've had to flash some code on a c8051f850
2016-04-19T00:23:50 < lorenzo> turns out the programmer is actually a USB to PS2 converter (wtf)
2016-04-19T00:24:01 < lorenzo> and requires a real physical machine, couldn't get it work in virtualbox / vmware
2016-04-19T00:24:16 < lorenzo> had to flash using a different laptop with windows 7 :D
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2016-04-19T00:25:49 < Rob235> hmm are there any good speaker independent voice recognition modules?
2016-04-19T00:27:32 < Sync> lorenzo karlp silabs is even quirky with their digital isolators
2016-04-19T00:27:47 < Sync> I have one that has a dead short on side A
2016-04-19T00:27:54 < Sync> without me doing anything
2016-04-19T00:28:12 < karlp> their usb2dualuart has two _different_ uarts on it too, with subtly different features.
2016-04-19T00:29:27 < zyp> Sync, defective parts can happen to anything, a one off doesn't tell anything
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2016-04-19T00:35:24 < karlp> but, does silabs sell mermaid tails? http://www.gearbest.com/bedding/pp_327927.html
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2016-04-19T01:03:38 < ReadError> fucking hell
2016-04-19T01:03:44 < ReadError> mentor graphics sends so much spam
2016-04-19T01:03:56 < ReadError> how the hell did i get on this list
2016-04-19T01:20:46 < karlp> pretty spammey hey
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2016-04-19T01:47:08 < kakimir> I need a lightweight hash function
2016-04-19T01:47:18 < kakimir> to generate integer out of command string
2016-04-19T01:47:39 < kakimir> to be passed to switch case
2016-04-19T01:47:58 < kakimir> that has cases generated with that same hash function
2016-04-19T01:49:17 < kakimir> or
2016-04-19T01:49:38 < kakimir> maybe fixed LUT
2016-04-19T01:50:45 < celeron55> why the hell
2016-04-19T01:51:09 < kakimir> I'm noob to command parsing
2016-04-19T01:51:13 < celeron55> you can get away with plain strcmp for literally anything
2016-04-19T01:51:33 < kakimir> can I switch case it?
2016-04-19T01:51:36 < kakimir> no
2016-04-19T01:51:48 < kakimir> I need LUT and strcmp for that
2016-04-19T01:51:53 < celeron55> switch case is just a fancy if
2016-04-19T01:52:01 < celeron55> or, more like non-fancy
2016-04-19T01:52:23 < kakimir> I need some solution that keeps it looking good
2016-04-19T01:52:51 < kakimir> so huge if else if it is?
2016-04-19T01:53:14 < kakimir> with strcmp in every condition?
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2016-04-19T01:54:46 < celeron55> well you could make an array like struct{ const char *command; (*handler)(params);} handlers[] = {{"foo", foo_handler}, {"bar", bar_handler}};
2016-04-19T01:55:04 < celeron55> and loop through that in the parser
2016-04-19T01:55:52 < kakimir> I don't like it
2016-04-19T01:55:53 < celeron55> (well, that didn't come out quite as valid code; but something like that)
2016-04-19T01:56:48 < celeron55> then you just make a large chain of ifs
2016-04-19T01:59:10 < celeron55> string parsing in C is kind of a unique artform; you need to think and not do something stupid or overly convoluted
2016-04-19T01:59:27 < kakimir> yes
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2016-04-19T02:04:06 < kakimir> https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12985360_262103307464487_1388938523767193984_n.jpg?oh=bc32f2db79b246fd23018da540d0b8e2&oe=57BAE616 australia wants me
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2016-04-19T02:08:15 < kakimir> they should write in mandarin
2016-04-19T02:09:38 < kakimir> celeron55: enumeration, LUT table and strcmp is the solution
2016-04-19T02:09:47 < kakimir> MACROs
2016-04-19T02:10:02 < kakimir> very cute
2016-04-19T02:12:52 < kakimir> can you enumerate macros like automatically?
2016-04-19T02:13:14 < kakimir> in C
2016-04-19T02:15:31 < jadew> kakimir, just make a list of commands, loop through them until you find the one that matches and return it's index
2016-04-19T02:16:06 < jadew> *its
2016-04-19T02:16:57 < jadew> most options kind of suck when you're doing it at low level
2016-04-19T02:17:53 < jadew> what celeron55 suggested is how I do it too
2016-04-19T02:19:05 < jadew> as for compile time hashing, it's most likely doable in c++, but it's going to be a complete brainfuck
2016-04-19T02:19:26 < jadew> (unless someone already did it :P)
2016-04-19T02:20:53 < kakimir> jadew: that is what I plan to do
2016-04-19T02:20:59 < kakimir> not loop but one pass
2016-04-19T02:21:49 < jadew> is it affecting the performance that much if it compares a bunch of short strings?
2016-04-19T02:22:11 < jadew> on one hand you have compare, on match take action
2016-04-19T02:22:28 < jadew> on the other you have compute hash of input, compare hashes, on match take action
2016-04-19T02:23:17 < kakimir> I wonder if comparing hashes would be actually lighter for processing
2016-04-19T02:23:23 < jadew> now, even if the hash algorithm isn't particularly complex, depending on the number of commands you have, you may end up with similar performance
2016-04-19T02:23:27 < kakimir> that comparing full strings
2016-04-19T02:23:33 < jadew> comparing hashes yes
2016-04-19T02:23:37 < jadew> well, depends
2016-04-19T02:23:42 < jadew> if the hash is an int
2016-04-19T02:23:45 < jadew> or something like that
2016-04-19T02:23:49 < kakimir> int
2016-04-19T02:23:53 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-19T02:24:02 < jadew> but computing the hash still takes processing power
2016-04-19T02:24:49 < jadew> anyway, I'm off to bed
2016-04-19T02:24:54 < jadew> night o/
2016-04-19T02:26:03 < kakimir> simple hash from simple string
2016-04-19T02:28:17 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-19T02:28:32 < kakimir> remember per case hashes are precalculated
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2016-04-19T02:34:50 < kakimir> http://linux.thai.net/~thep/datrie/datrie.html somebody recommended this
2016-04-19T02:35:43 < kakimir> not sure what it is but I'm looking into it
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2016-04-19T02:38:28 < kakimir> you be mockin me
2016-04-19T02:38:38 < kakimir> :]
2016-04-19T02:38:40 < Laurenceb__> troll32
2016-04-19T02:42:27 < Laurenceb__> as long as its not the supreme gentleman
2016-04-19T02:43:34 < Laurenceb__> irl lolld
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2016-04-19T03:17:42 < kakimir> world needs more heros
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2016-04-19T03:23:48 < Rob235> hmm, how do you do automatic voice recognition when you dont know anything about audio
2016-04-19T03:24:38 < kakimir> using some ready solutions
2016-04-19T03:25:19 < Rob235> I was thinking of recording the audio on the device, using wifi to transmit to pc and using some readymade api convert it
2016-04-19T03:25:27 < Rob235> but that sounds slow
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2016-04-19T04:45:17 < ReadError> PeterM http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-sSvLT7z/0/X3/CA_04181621445283-X3.jpg bish we keyed up
2016-04-19T04:45:38 < ReadError> new iphone camera is pretty legit, seems to take better macros than my old one
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2016-04-19T04:46:53 < upgrdman> in altidongs, how do i increase the size of thermals to a ground pour?
2016-04-19T04:47:10 < upgrdman> its like 10mil traces to the pour, but i need like 20+mil
2016-04-19T04:47:15 < ReadError> rule
2016-04-19T04:48:38 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/fRzaH72.png
2016-04-19T04:49:22 < ReadError> new altidong 16 rule window is different
2016-04-19T04:49:24 < ReadError> i like
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2016-04-19T04:51:02 < upgrdman> ya i just edited that
2016-04-19T04:51:06 < upgrdman> how do i update my pour
2016-04-19T04:51:17 < ReadError> t-g-a
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2016-04-19T04:55:45 < ReadError> gotta learn them shortcut keys
2016-04-19T04:55:51 < ReadError> then you can work so fastly
2016-04-19T04:57:09 < upgrdman> im working on it
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2016-04-19T04:57:13 < upgrdman> and im even taking notes
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2016-04-19T04:57:59 < ReadError> yea theres so many
2016-04-19T04:58:09 < ReadError> but once you use enough, its muscle memory
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2016-04-19T05:29:10 < upgrdman> only 90?
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2016-04-19T08:27:10 < upgrdman> anyone know of a screen magnifier for windows that is as nice as the one built into os x? e.g. super smooth fine control over zoom level, and assignable to hotkey+scroll wheel?
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2016-04-19T08:43:59 < dongs>       ohsix uhhh isnt mytracks opensauce. what part of it was on "google?
2016-04-19T08:44:06 < dongs> cant people just keep using it
2016-04-19T08:44:17 < dongs> upgrdman: FAGGOT
2016-04-19T08:44:23 < dongs> also just get better eyes what teh fuck
2016-04-19T08:44:52 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-19T08:45:44 < dongs> im sitting in front of 12" 4K and i have no problems
2016-04-19T08:45:49 < dongs> and my eyes arent all that great
2016-04-19T08:47:49 < dongs> k time to get out of this shithole
2016-04-19T08:47:49 < dongs> bbl
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2016-04-19T09:29:51 < qyx> https://gist.github.com/iqyx/6f6366f03bad36748989dcecf857c45c
2016-04-19T09:30:09 < qyx> any comments or is it totally useless?
2016-04-19T09:32:55 < jpa-> i was always a bit "meh" on the original semantic versioning stuff also
2016-04-19T09:32:59 < qyx> yeah, true, there are some examples, although I would have problems deciding which one is compatible and which not
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2016-04-19T09:35:26 < qyx> why, there are more versions of the PCI or PCIe
2016-04-19T09:35:32 < qyx> which are mostly backwards compatible
2016-04-19T09:36:02 < qyx> PCI could be treated as a major 1, PCIe as a major 2 (-> incompatible changes, connector form factor changed)
2016-04-19T09:36:13 < qyx> and PCIe1 vs 2 vs 3 could be minor versions
2016-04-19T09:37:02 < qyx> maybe that thing is more conceptual than practical
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2016-04-19T09:37:27 < qyx> like you see an interface with the same name, but actually don't know if your component will work
2016-04-19T09:37:47 < qyx> you could name it differently to be clear though
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2016-04-19T09:58:05 < upgrdman> that trick of taking an oscope probe and clips it's ground wire to the tip to check for EMI issues... kinda scary when you see >200V spikes on that shorted probe
2016-04-19T09:58:17 < upgrdman> "so thats why everything was resetting or hanging"
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2016-04-19T11:19:17 < karlp> qyx: I think semantic versioning hardware is sane and good for some projects, that have a roadmap and firmware/application software that understands it,
2016-04-19T11:20:00 < karlp> ohsix: dongs owntracks is the opensource version of mytracks
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2016-04-19T11:21:31 < karlp> ohsix: it's only meaningful when you'ðre talking abotu the software it works with surely?
2016-04-19T11:23:32 < karlp> huh mytracks alternaties doesn't owntracks
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2016-04-19T12:05:10 < karlp> usb-c charging fails :| http://imgur.com/a/qNNyW
2016-04-19T12:07:45 < zyp> heh
2016-04-19T12:09:25 < PeterM> i understand what these graphs show but i dont understand why they show it
2016-04-19T12:10:16 < karlp> helps you see what might have been causing your bad battery life.
2016-04-19T12:10:27 < karlp> "oh, something was keeping my screen on, or wifi on, I should work out what that is"
2016-04-19T12:10:41 < PeterM> i understand what these graphs show but i dont understand why they show it
2016-04-19T12:10:52 < karlp> helps you see what might have been causing your bad battery life.
2016-04-19T12:10:54 < karlp> "oh, something was keeping my screen on, or wifi on, I should work out what that is"
2016-04-19T12:10:58 < karlp> ? ;)
2016-04-19T12:11:00 < PeterM> no
2016-04-19T12:11:26 < karlp> "software should be better and not need to show this" ? is that your point?
2016-04-19T12:11:34 < PeterM> no
2016-04-19T12:12:06 < karlp> are you going to elaborate further?
2016-04-19T12:12:09 < PeterM> my thougth are why does it only charge when it is so low on charge and why does it seem to not actualyl have any effect on battery charge state
2016-04-19T12:12:17 < karlp> ah, ok, just not typing as fast, sorry :)
2016-04-19T12:12:23 < PeterM> and
2016-04-19T12:12:28 < PeterM> in this picture http://i.imgur.com/QAMGqSR.png
2016-04-19T12:12:40 < PeterM> why did it charge quite quickly by comparison
2016-04-19T12:12:48 < karlp> oh, right, so that's exactly why I grabbed the screenshot
2016-04-19T12:12:54 < karlp> it's failing to charge when plugged in.
2016-04-19T12:13:11 < karlp> it plays the chime and shows the charging icon, and puts time on the "charging" part of the bar,
2016-04-19T12:13:22 < karlp> but one of them it charged "normally" and one of them it totally failed to charge
2016-04-19T12:13:42 < karlp> so, the top one, http://i.imgur.com/nQxeRtv.png was when I woke up this morning
2016-04-19T12:13:51 < karlp> had been plugged in all night, but not actually charging.
2016-04-19T12:14:00 < PeterM> dialpad >*#*#4636#*#* > battery information
2016-04-19T12:14:24 < PeterM> that may or maynot show anythign useful
2016-04-19T12:14:46 < karlp> connection problem on invalid mmi, let me try again
2016-04-19T12:15:29 < karlp> I'd have to try that while it was still plugged in after noticing that it had failed
2016-04-19T12:15:31 < PeterM> i wouldnt be surprised if miui or w/e didnt allow the use of that ussd code
2016-04-19T12:15:39 < karlp> yeah, I'd left off the last * before it's showing it now
2016-04-19T12:16:33 < karlp> but it's not real useful. really,
2016-04-19T12:16:37 < PeterM> so do you believe your usb-c socket/plug is failing?
2016-04-19T12:16:43 < karlp> no idea.
2016-04-19T12:16:59 < karlp> but zyp had reported a problem like this with his new phone iirc,
2016-04-19T12:17:00 < PeterM> well if oyu plug in the charger you can see if the battery voltage jumps to see if it is actualyl charging
2016-04-19T12:17:06 < upgrdman> is there a document that covers the altium (or other respected org's) pcb footprint styles. like how thick to make silkscreen lines, etc.
2016-04-19T12:17:24 < zyp> karlp, my old phone
2016-04-19T12:17:39 < karlp> PeterM: voltage on that screen doesn't change at all.
2016-04-19T12:17:47 < PeterM> upgrdman, like the IPC?
2016-04-19T12:17:51 < karlp> plug/charing status changes, but not the voltage
2016-04-19T12:17:58 < PeterM> karlp wel lthen its nto charging
2016-04-19T12:18:02 < upgrdman> PeterM, the what
2016-04-19T12:18:06 < zyp> karlp, and the problem in that case was that I plugged into an outlet that couldn't provide much power (i.e. not designed for charging)
2016-04-19T12:18:14 < upgrdman> guessing ipc != interprocess communication
2016-04-19T12:18:15 < PeterM> becuase of the batterys internal resistance you should see a slight jump when the charger starts charging
2016-04-19T12:18:31 < zyp> outlet was probably limited to a single unit load, i.e. 100mA
2016-04-19T12:18:32 < PeterM> http://www.ipc.org/
2016-04-19T12:19:01 < karlp> ok, unplugged, voltage jumped up to 3.92
2016-04-19T12:19:16 < karlp> plugged in, dropped to 3.76
2016-04-19T12:19:28 < PeterM> that...
2016-04-19T12:19:30 < PeterM> that is nto right
2016-04-19T12:19:34 < PeterM> not *
2016-04-19T12:19:53 < karlp> sometimes it doesn't dorp when I plug it in.
2016-04-19T12:20:29 < PeterM> yeah, im guessing when you pplug it in, and it drops, thats because the charger circuitry turns on btu isnt actualyl hcarging
2016-04-19T12:20:43 < PeterM> and when it doenst drop, it is actualyl hcarging or the charger circuitry doesnt turn on
2016-04-19T12:21:30 < PeterM> karlp got an old mobo/usbhub/whatevre you can get a usb port from so you can hook it up to a bench supply and seewhats up?
2016-04-19T12:21:41 < karlp> I think there's a problem with that screen updating
2016-04-19T12:22:14 < karlp> I'm at work, and it's connected to one of hose inline power meter things, and it's always sucking ~1A, regardless of whether the voltage changes or not when I plug it on on th ussd screen at least.
2016-04-19T12:23:10 < karlp> like, it gives mV resolution on that sscreen, but only ever changes occasionally, and in large steps.
2016-04-19T12:23:56 < PeterM> karlp the update rate wont be terribly fast
2016-04-19T12:24:05 < PeterM> like every 30 sec or so
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2016-04-19T12:24:35 < edos> hey
2016-04-19T12:24:40 < PeterM> the plugged/unplugged thing should update hasty though
2016-04-19T12:24:54 < karlp> plugged/unplugged and time since boot is all the time, yeah
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2016-04-19T12:25:02 < edos> anyone uses usb host ?
2016-04-19T12:25:30 < edos> what toolchain do you use?
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2016-04-19T12:26:11  * karlp sees it at 3735mV and waits > 60seconds to see if the rise/fall is actually just laged out
2016-04-19T12:26:52 < karlp> yeah, now it's gone upð to 3948.
2016-04-19T12:27:03 < karlp> so it "went up" when it was plugged in then,
2016-04-19T12:27:21 < PeterM> well atleast that seems normal
2016-04-19T12:27:29 < karlp> but not sure what I could see on that screen to help check anything even if I catch it not charging
2016-04-19T12:27:38 < karlp> I can't normally reproduce this,
2016-04-19T12:27:48 < karlp> unplug/replug and it will normally always be doing the right thing,
2016-04-19T12:27:58 < PeterM> and atleast you can use that to see when it really is charging (when you donty have the inline monitor on hand)
2016-04-19T12:28:08 < karlp> it's using the cable and charger it came with
2016-04-19T12:28:28 < karlp> is it always going to be 3.9x someting when charging?
2016-04-19T12:28:42 < PeterM> it'll go up to 4.35~ or so
2016-04-19T12:28:47 < PeterM> when fully charged
2016-04-19T12:29:44 < PeterM> or atelast when it enters cv portion of charge
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2016-04-19T12:31:16 < karlp> looks like it's updating the battery voltage every 60 seconds, after a bit of watching.
2016-04-19T12:32:40 < PeterM> 60 sec is pretty slow, but i guess thats what that build has been set up for
2016-04-19T12:34:21 < karlp> stupid ussd codes can't be saved as contacts
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2016-04-19T12:46:13 < karlp> well, thanks for the advice PeterM I'm not sure there's much I can do about it really, but I've got theussd code saved now at least.
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2016-04-19T14:06:21 < Steffanx> Hows it keiling crt?
2016-04-19T14:12:00 < Steffanx> No keil.
2016-04-19T14:22:04 < Thorn> no ME?
2016-04-19T14:22:15 < Thorn> outrageous.
2016-04-19T14:24:13 < BrainDamage> 3.11 for workgroup
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2016-04-19T14:41:23 < Thorn> http://i.imgur.com/0XggnMk.png
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2016-04-19T14:48:53 < stukdev> anybody here use atollic true studio for debug with st link?
2016-04-19T15:07:40 < ReadError> gross
2016-04-19T15:10:29 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-19T15:11:29 < ReadError> why not just get regular ole eclipse
2016-04-19T15:11:52 < Laurenceb_>  /pol/ irl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYy77IGsBFc&feature=youtu.be
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2016-04-19T15:25:53 < Laurenceb_> lul http://mileswmathis.com/musk.pdf
2016-04-19T15:26:29 < Laurenceb_>  No real person of any intelligence and scruple is a fan of Margaret Thatcher.
2016-04-19T15:26:33 < Laurenceb_> coal miner spotted
2016-04-19T15:26:52 < Laurenceb_>   Elon is also a Jewish name /pol/ spotted
2016-04-19T15:28:03 < ReadError> well /pol/ is full of asspie retards
2016-04-19T15:29:38 < Laurenceb_> I seriously don't get this pump reference
2016-04-19T15:31:25 < Laurenceb_> Even the American Nazi Party is more circumspect than Musk
2016-04-19T15:31:29 < Laurenceb_> lolling hard
2016-04-19T15:31:42 < Laurenceb_> this guy hates Musk even more than me
2016-04-19T15:32:04 < Thorn> how much does he hate you
2016-04-19T15:33:30 < Laurenceb_> well I'm banned from /pol/ so probably a lot
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2016-04-19T15:34:36 < ReadError> well after a few days of burn-in
2016-04-19T15:34:48 < ReadError> time to swap in the bau5hawg as the daily driver
2016-04-19T15:34:56 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBJAR3-UvSQ
2016-04-19T15:37:48 < ReadError> moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601) up: 3days 19hrs 55mins 55secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (x64) at 3701MHz (24% Load) gfx: NoMachine res: 1920x1080 32bit 144Hz ram: 14885/16301.1MB (91.31%) [|||||||||-] hdd: C:\ 281.36GB/465.66GB E:\ 884.14GB/931.51GB net: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - 1000MB/s 10.9GB In 1.16GB Out
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2016-04-19T15:41:13 < Laurenceb_>  I honestly don't understand why they spend $108 million
2016-04-19T15:41:13 < Laurenceb_> on a movie like
2016-04-19T15:41:14 < Laurenceb_> The Martian
2016-04-19T15:41:14 < Laurenceb_> , but spend about $10,000 faking this docking sequence with the ISS
2016-04-19T15:41:14 < ReadError> moo: os: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise - (10.0.10586) up: 2days 6hrs 42mins 41secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz (x64) at 2369MHz (2% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 -2.00GB res: 1920x1080 32bit 60Hz ram: 34779/65447.2MB (53.14%) [|||||-----] hdd: C:\ 155.11GB/237.92GB D:\ 881.62GB/931.39GB E:\ 115.41GB/465.63GB net: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller -
2016-04-19T15:41:14 < ReadError> 1000MB/s 102.14GB In 1.57GB Out
2016-04-19T15:41:19 < Laurenceb_> lul its all fake
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2016-04-19T15:47:37 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2016-04-19T15:47:38 < Laurenceb_> http://milesmathis.com/pi4.html
2016-04-19T15:49:21 < Laurenceb_> only the first paragraph
2016-04-19T15:49:23 < jpa-> bah
2016-04-19T15:49:27 < jpa-> i thought this was about rpi4
2016-04-19T15:52:14 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/XrQPnvm
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2016-04-19T16:08:47 < Laurenceb_> spotted same guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jzhxvM56ERU
2016-04-19T16:09:11 < Thorn> >If your board has multiple designs on it, PCBWay changes the price when they review your Gerber files. My price went from $13 to $125!!
2016-04-19T16:10:43 < Thorn> >The good news: the quality is outstanding, tied for first place with iTead and slightly better than OSHpark.
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2016-04-19T16:12:50 < ReadError> i like my korean guy
2016-04-19T16:12:54 < ReadError> hes legit
2016-04-19T16:17:02 < zyp> heh
2016-04-19T16:17:17 < zyp> isn't itead about on par with seeed in quality?
2016-04-19T16:17:52 < Sync> they all are about the same
2016-04-19T16:18:12 < Sync> I did some boards with elecow lately, they are also fine
2016-04-19T16:18:24 < Thorn> so oshpark is worse than all of them?
2016-04-19T16:18:56 < zyp> Thorn, I wouldn't say so, oshpark > seeed for the boards I've done with either
2016-04-19T16:19:05 < zyp> but that's years ago
2016-04-19T16:19:29 < zyp> and neither comes close to the place dongs is getting pcbs from
2016-04-19T16:19:50 < ReadError> oshpark is way better than itead or seeed
2016-04-19T16:20:01 < ReadError> zyp I think my korean is onpar with dongs place
2016-04-19T16:20:17 < zyp> I think that place is also korean
2016-04-19T16:20:36 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/a/AfUpR
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2016-04-19T16:21:19 < Sync> yeah the korean guy is legit shits
2016-04-19T16:21:27 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/nKrwfvj.png
2016-04-19T16:21:29 < Sync> I did some work stuff with him
2016-04-19T16:21:30 < ReadError> i love this one
2016-04-19T16:21:33 < ReadError> should have blown off the dust
2016-04-19T16:21:40 < ReadError> but the silk looks 3d almost ;)
2016-04-19T16:21:53 < Laurenceb_> wtf vias
2016-04-19T16:22:23 < ReadError> wtftfw
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2016-04-19T16:22:50 < Thorn> how large are those annulars?
2016-04-19T16:23:07 < ReadError> 12/24
2016-04-19T16:23:15 < ReadError> thats the 'cheapest'
2016-04-19T16:23:23 < ReadError> he can go much smaller tho
2016-04-19T16:23:57 < Thorn> 0.6mm? iirc seeed etc only do 0.8
2016-04-19T16:24:32 < ReadError> down to 0.2mm drill, 0.4mm pad
2016-04-19T16:24:50 < ReadError> 4/4
2016-04-19T16:25:03 < Laurenceb_> nice
2016-04-19T16:25:15 < Laurenceb_> how much does it cost?
2016-04-19T16:25:43 < ReadError> well the prototype special is like, 4x 6x6" boards (4L) @ $100
2016-04-19T16:26:00 < ReadError> he will panelize them so I got 9*4 (36) boards for 100$
2016-04-19T16:26:23 < zyp> heh, 6x6"
2016-04-19T16:26:41 < zyp> are you making xbox?
2016-04-19T16:26:47 < ReadError> hm no
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2016-04-19T16:26:51 < ReadError> thats just the panel size
2016-04-19T16:26:58 < ReadError> like i said he will panelize your design
2016-04-19T16:27:07 < ReadError> to max out what you can get per panel
2016-04-19T16:27:15 < zyp> ah, of course
2016-04-19T16:27:27 < ReadError> then he sends the panel gerbs back
2016-04-19T16:27:33 < ReadError> if you want to get a stencil made etc
2016-04-19T16:29:12 < zyp> that sounds pretty cheap for 4L protos
2016-04-19T16:29:24 < ReadError> yea I mean its HASL but w/e
2016-04-19T16:29:33 < ReadError> good enough for dicking around on protos
2016-04-19T16:29:38 < zyp> oh, right
2016-04-19T16:29:42 < zyp> how much more would ENIG be?
2016-04-19T16:30:36 < ReadError> not sure, had not asked on the proto special if he will
2016-04-19T16:30:54 < ReadError> but after sending him 8000$ in orders maybe he will help a brutha out next time
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2016-04-19T16:39:42 < Laurenceb_> lul Steve broke BT
2016-04-19T16:39:45 < Laurenceb_> http://www.afenet.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/users/121/hetrodyne
2016-04-19T16:39:54 < Laurenceb_> Occupation: 	 broadband engineer
2016-04-19T16:40:13 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting tons of "Remote MTA be21.bt.int.cpcloud.co.uk: SMTP diagnostic: 552 RCPT TO:<stevewebb2@btinternet.com> Mailbox disk quota exceeded "
2016-04-19T16:41:09 < Laurenceb_> every time I send an email
2016-04-19T16:42:03 < Sync> noice
2016-04-19T16:42:59 < Laurenceb_> I'm betting all email has been redirected to his inbox lulz
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2016-04-19T16:49:39 < upgrdman> are there any common size heatsinks for to220s? kinda want some big ones that screw onto pcb, but im also a cheap fuck
2016-04-19T16:50:08 < Sync> yes
2016-04-19T16:50:43 < upgrdman> what do i google
2016-04-19T16:51:34 < Sync> how big do you want it?
2016-04-19T16:52:58 < upgrdman> well ideally for four fets, with heatsink near size of cpu heatsink
2016-04-19T16:53:02 < Sync> http://de.farnell.com/productimages/standard/de_DE/1892327-40.jpg shut like that?
2016-04-19T16:53:20 < Sync> http://www.fischerelektronik.de/pim42/upload/fischerData/image/bigweb/sk454_m3.jpg
2016-04-19T16:53:26 < upgrdman> hmm
2016-04-19T16:54:03 < upgrdman> fuck yes that second one
2016-04-19T16:55:06 < Sync> http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/kuhlkorper/6744715/
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2016-04-19T17:05:38 < Laurenceb_> I hate ADS1298
2016-04-19T17:06:10 < Laurenceb_> it has a stupid clocked state machine, so some of the spi time delays need to be multiples of the device clock
2016-04-19T17:06:28 < Laurenceb_> massive pita to sequence
2016-04-19T17:06:47 < Sync> sounds like fun
2016-04-19T17:08:38 < Laurenceb_> looks like the Ti engineers were lazy and used the main clock for everything
2016-04-19T17:13:27 < upgrdman> is there a name for the kind of heatsink that had a threaded slot so you can just screw 3mm screws into them anywhere in that slow?
2016-04-19T17:13:31 < upgrdman> s/slow/slot
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2016-04-19T17:18:37 < Sync> it is a regular profile heatsink
2016-04-19T17:22:42 < dongs> < Thorn> >The good news: the quality is outstanding, tied for first place with iTead and slightly better than OSHpark.
2016-04-19T17:22:49 < dongs> tying with itead, holy shit
2016-04-19T17:23:03 < dongs> if their quality hasnt changed since 2-3 years ago, its complete and utter shit
2016-04-19T17:23:05 < zyp> haha
2016-04-19T17:23:21 < dongs> doing your shit tomrorwo for real, zyp
2016-04-19T17:23:47 < zyp> nice
2016-04-19T17:24:05 < dongs> finalyl gathered everything in a box with "ZYP'S SHIT" written on it
2016-04-19T17:24:15 < dongs> and its still on teh shelf despite quakes
2016-04-19T17:24:47 < zyp> haha
2016-04-19T17:25:11 < dongs> o ya came here to post this
2016-04-19T17:25:11 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Scan-more-than-RFID-NFC/
2016-04-19T17:26:33 < zyp> haha
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2016-04-19T17:27:31 < dongs> how will that evne work
2016-04-19T17:28:07 < zyp> library at the uni I went to had a sort of similar system
2016-04-19T17:29:00 < zyp> all books are tagged, and when checking out you can just put a whole stack on the counter and have the tags read
2016-04-19T17:29:20 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/Altium-Schematics-PCB-design-for/
2016-04-19T17:29:33 < zyp> it's easy enough when all tags in range conform to the same anticollision system
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2016-04-19T17:31:27 < dongs> lol that nav wheel from C*K
2016-04-19T17:31:40 < dongs> http://www.ck-components.com/media/1346/tsw_12feb16.pdf
2016-04-19T17:36:38 < upgrdman> heh i have some of those
2016-04-19T17:36:48 < upgrdman> then mouser emailed me about NRND or disco or someshit
2016-04-19T17:37:00 < upgrdman> they feel kinda nice
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2016-04-19T17:49:25 < emeb> ice5 breakout works -> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/0419160747.jpg
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2016-04-19T17:49:54 < dongs> psh why didnt you breakout the QLCSP
2016-04-19T17:51:02 < emeb> which one is that?
2016-04-19T17:51:07 < dongs> er WLCSP
2016-04-19T17:51:10 < dongs> the one on the evalboard
2016-04-19T17:51:10 < dongs> ahah
2016-04-19T17:51:20 < dongs> my pal bought the same board
2016-04-19T17:51:22 < dongs> it arrived before mine
2016-04-19T17:51:25 < dongs> he message sme
2016-04-19T17:51:32 < dongs> "hey what the fuc kdid i buy, is that just hte programmer"?
2016-04-19T17:51:34 < dongs> "wehre is the fpga"
2016-04-19T17:52:45 < emeb> lol
2016-04-19T17:53:28 < emeb> do you think that you could do a board for the WLCSP with itead? :P
2016-04-19T17:53:55 < emeb> high quality!
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2016-04-19T17:54:52 < emeb> that QFN was pretty easy to do. worked fine with my 8yr old syringe of funky paste.
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2016-04-19T18:01:36 < ReadError> damn altium 16 has a lot of changes
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2016-04-19T18:27:06 < dongs> http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/cpg/5534957049.html
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2016-04-19T18:41:08 < kakimir> hello dongs
2016-04-19T18:41:11 < kakimir> sleep dongs
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2016-04-19T18:57:06 < kakimir> guys I need hash fuction for max 64char strings
2016-04-19T18:57:25 < kakimir> very lite
2016-04-19T18:57:34 < kakimir> output 32bit value
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2016-04-19T19:10:54 < BrainDamage> crc32, it's used errywhere for data integrity and reasonably fast since it's a bunch of polynomials
2016-04-19T19:13:10 < BrainDamage> i hope you're using it for error detection, and not for the non reversibility, because at that size it's possible to brute force it
2016-04-19T19:13:59 < BrainDamage> a slightly weaker, but faster one, is fletcher 32
2016-04-19T19:14:30 < jadew> "I had no idea what to do in college, so I panicked and took as many classes as possible. Ended up with a triple major: Spanish, international studies, mass communication.
2016-04-19T19:14:30 < jadew> I'm a cook now."
2016-04-19T19:16:39 < kakimir> I need something that doesnt cause word collision in my set of 42 commands
2016-04-19T19:16:45 < kakimir> and is fast
2016-04-19T19:17:25 < jadew> kakimir, crc32 does?
2016-04-19T19:18:18 < kakimir> crc doesn't sound as fast it could be
2016-04-19T19:20:29 < jadew> so add them up
2016-04-19T19:20:46 < jadew> and see if you have collisions
2016-04-19T19:20:57 < jadew> if you don't just do a sum
2016-04-19T19:30:29 < kakimir> if you kind of scale to character area you use you can pack that text down
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2016-04-19T19:42:06 < Ecco> kakimir: couldn't you just pick 4 bytes?
2016-04-19T19:42:09 < Ecco> Like the first 4?
2016-04-19T19:42:26 < Ecco> Can't get very much faster than that
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2016-04-19T19:43:37 < Laurenceb_> https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/04/19/1613242/human-limbs-evolved-from-shark-fins-thanks-to-sonic-hedgehog-gene
2016-04-19T19:44:18 < Laurenceb_> http://galopprennen.tv/
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2016-04-19T20:37:59 < kakimir> Ecco: well half of commands have begin like "return"
2016-04-19T20:38:30 < kakimir> to say: no way
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2016-04-19T20:46:59 < celeron55> kakimir: take a look at this leading HTTP request parser of today's world: http://lxr.nginx.org/source/src/http/ngx_http_parse.c#0103
2016-04-19T20:47:46 < kakimir> niggax
2016-04-19T20:47:48 < celeron55> if you really want to go fast at the expense of everything else, that's what you do
2016-04-19T20:48:28 < Steffanx> lol that.
2016-04-19T20:51:13 < kakimir> I see they go hardcore
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2016-04-19T20:54:18 < celeron55> it doesn't even contain any assembly code or any hashing or anything; it's just manually inlining string comparisons and character matching
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2016-04-19T20:54:34 < kakimir> yes yes
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2016-04-19T20:58:07 < kakimir> but I bet when you run that on whatever server platform
2016-04-19T20:58:28 < kakimir> there is such processors in use that do such task easily
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2016-04-19T21:11:58 < kakimir> crc32 requires some dope table of data
2016-04-19T21:12:03 < kakimir> to function
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2016-04-19T21:19:32 < kakimir> http://opensource.apple.com//source/xnu/xnu-1456.1.26/bsd/libkern/crc32.c
2016-04-19T21:19:38 < kakimir> apple has some open source
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2016-04-19T21:26:24 < kakimir> so are ones with lookup table usually lighter?
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2016-04-19T21:46:51 < englishman> on what platform
2016-04-19T21:47:00 < englishman> crc is 1 cycle per byte on stm32s that support it
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2016-04-19T22:25:52 < kakimir> oh now I remembers
2016-04-19T22:26:03 < kakimir> what I was looking in datasheet
2016-04-19T22:26:18 < kakimir> Chapter 32: LPC15xx CRC engine
2016-04-19T22:27:04 < Ecco> kakimir: so don't pick the fist bytes?
2016-04-19T22:27:13 < Ecco> Just try to find a range where you don't have collisions
2016-04-19T22:27:28 < Ecco> maybe the bytes 3,4,5,and 6 are unique among your commands?
2016-04-19T22:27:45 < kakimir> ohsix: then have 42 commands
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2016-04-20T00:04:52 < kakimir> friend wants me to go eurotour with him
2016-04-20T00:05:17 < kakimir> hannover messe, dam, alps and back home
2016-04-20T00:06:21 < Steffanx> dam as in amsterdam?
2016-04-20T00:06:28 < Steffanx> kakimir on drugs tour?
2016-04-20T00:06:41 < Steffanx> that's damme. not dam.
2016-04-20T00:07:09 < kakimir> damme
2016-04-20T00:07:19 < kakimir> dam as amsterdam
2016-04-20T00:07:27 < Steffanx> yeah sure.
2016-04-20T00:07:30 < Steffanx> Im santa.
2016-04-20T00:07:54 < kakimir> I'm not sure I want to go
2016-04-20T00:08:12 < Steffanx> You better do a ##stm32 tour.
2016-04-20T00:08:28 < Steffanx> norway, iceland, dutchland, france, italy.
2016-04-20T00:08:37 < Steffanx> and probably more..
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2016-04-20T00:11:40 < Steffanx> but you better stay in your mancave kakimir.
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2016-04-20T00:15:47 < Steffanx> oh no "Internet of Things initiatives. "
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2016-04-20T00:16:55 < kakimir> http://1.f.ix.de/scale/geometry/2000x800/q75/imgs/71/1/7/8/4/4/1/8/Tschernobyl_Duga3_Radaranlage-3ea2d3373e259186.jpeg what is it
2016-04-20T00:17:11 < kakimir> I rather do stm32 tour
2016-04-20T00:17:48 < kakimir> besides I don't 100% trust my friends
2016-04-20T00:17:59 < kakimir> they are a bit of pranksters and stuff
2016-04-20T00:18:08 < kakimir> I feel stress
2016-04-20T00:20:40 < BrainDamage> it says in the url, it's the duga3 phased array, near chernobyl, 10s in google would tell you it's an old over the horizont radar
2016-04-20T00:20:58 < BrainDamage> also, that perspective is weird, the dipoles are stacked vertically
2016-04-20T00:21:37 < kakimir> iron curtain
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2016-04-20T00:23:34 < kakimir> I actually want to do stm32 tour
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2016-04-20T00:25:14 < kakimir> not just some generic eurotrips
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2016-04-20T00:28:24 < kakimir> okay now my code hardfaults before main
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2016-04-20T00:32:23 < BrainDamage> as in you'll visit st fabs?
2016-04-20T00:32:42 < kakimir> sure
2016-04-20T00:32:55 < kakimir> traitor visit
2016-04-20T00:33:51 < kakimir> isn't st main places in northern italy?
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2016-04-20T00:36:44 < BrainDamage> the headquarters are in switzerland, but fabs are in in italy and france
2016-04-20T00:36:54 < BrainDamage> as well as design offices
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2016-04-20T00:39:27 < BrainDamage> you're getting a few in funland soon iirc, they bought some nokia engineers and tech
2016-04-20T00:40:35 < kakimir> sound very random
2016-04-20T00:41:38 < kakimir> uint32_t hash32(const void *buf){ return 9999; //return crc32(0, buf, strlen(buf));
2016-04-20T00:41:49 < kakimir> so I commented the crc part out
2016-04-20T00:42:49 < kakimir> hardfault went away but bus fault emerged
2016-04-20T00:49:30 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/ZWRJWfBD when I comment that initialization function it's all ok
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2016-04-20T00:55:09 < kakimir> better precalculate them of code!
2016-04-20T00:55:15 < kakimir> *off code
2016-04-20T00:57:03 < TheSeven> might be an unaligned access thing now
2016-04-20T00:57:46 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-20T00:57:59 < kakimir> that thing
2016-04-20T00:58:32 < TheSeven> although I would have expected the compiler to pad the struct to 8 bytes
2016-04-20T00:58:39 < kakimir> where it happens?
2016-04-20T00:58:58 < kakimir> so it packs when it shouldnt?
2016-04-20T00:59:39 < TheSeven> probably, judging from the bus fault
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2016-04-20T01:00:04 < TheSeven> try padding it manually and see if it goes away
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2016-04-20T01:08:30 < kakimir> because I'm smart ass and I need to have my way
2016-04-20T01:15:30 < kakimir> I didn't touch uart functions and now it's unable to output simple hello message to uart
2016-04-20T01:15:41 < ReadError> having it your way seems to result in broken code!
2016-04-20T01:15:42 < kakimir> at least it doesn't come thru
2016-04-20T01:16:18 < kakimir> btw fault are gone after I changed to sensible type of uint32_t
2016-04-20T01:16:24 < kakimir> thanks TheSeven
2016-04-20T01:17:21 < kakimir> now code just have erradic behavour
2016-04-20T01:17:58 < kakimir> I had to turn optimizations down to -O1 to make it even reach main
2016-04-20T01:18:37 < TheSeven> that sounds *very* broken
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2016-04-20T01:20:23 < kakimir> do you see any actual errors in code
2016-04-20T01:21:39 < TheSeven> not in that excerpt
2016-04-20T01:23:07 < ReadError> is this that offtopic LPC mcu?
2016-04-20T01:23:50 < kakimir> hey hey it initializes both hashes and command numbers
2016-04-20T01:23:57 < kakimir> hashes are correct
2016-04-20T01:24:07 < kakimir> I check from online crc32
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2016-04-20T01:26:36 < kakimir> if I keep coding this hard
2016-04-20T01:26:45 < kakimir> in 10years I'm true pro
2016-04-20T01:26:58 < ReadError> china run out of SMAs so you actually have to code until you can make more pcbs?
2016-04-20T01:27:07 < Laurenceb__> http://8ch.net/pol/src/1461098498520.jpg
2016-04-20T01:27:10 < kakimir> I ran out of money
2016-04-20T01:27:17 < Laurenceb__> China likes Trump
2016-04-20T01:27:21 < kakimir> now I only have my shit to butt together
2016-04-20T01:27:33 < kakimir> luckyly I have bought all kind of shiet
2016-04-20T01:27:34 < Laurenceb__> he is Dragon
2016-04-20T01:29:18 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKWE9rbWFPMWVXMW8/view?usp=sharing hash of "ping"
2016-04-20T01:29:21 < kakimir> it works
2016-04-20T01:29:29 < Laurenceb__> I like how Carson is a Monkey
2016-04-20T01:29:34 < Laurenceb__> they have got to be trolling
2016-04-20T01:29:42 < Laurenceb__> and Cruz is a rat
2016-04-20T01:29:45 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: give movies
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2016-04-20T01:31:50 < kakimir> ohsix: until I turn hardware crc on
2016-04-20T01:31:56 < kakimir> it be a killah
2016-04-20T01:32:09 < kakimir> can't beat it
2016-04-20T01:33:22 < kakimir> I have switch case
2016-04-20T01:33:51 < kakimir> like it was.. heavy?
2016-04-20T01:34:40 < kakimir> do I need to write it myself?
2016-04-20T01:35:48 < kakimir> as I said half of commands start with "return", quarter with "power" and about 10 or so of commands are just random
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2016-04-20T01:36:50 < kakimir> ohsix: yes I need to move heat command to top that is thermostat control/refresh command
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2016-04-20T01:37:09 < kakimir> it be called like constant
2016-04-20T01:38:13 < kakimir> I can record the communication and do statistics when frontend runs
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2016-04-20T01:51:19 < kakimir> so hardware one wants 32bit blocks of data
2016-04-20T01:52:14 < TheSeven> yes
2016-04-20T01:53:59 < kakimir> how do I feed non-uniform strings to it?
2016-04-20T01:54:52 < TheSeven> determine the length, feed all 32bit chunks to it, calculate the remaining bytes manually
2016-04-20T01:55:19 < kakimir> that's sad
2016-04-20T01:55:25 < TheSeven> maybe optimize it by not using strlen but scanning it while feeding it
2016-04-20T01:55:54 < TheSeven> or generally pad everything to a multiple of 32 bits
2016-04-20T01:58:17 < kakimir> you can't fill the string somehow... or anything
2016-04-20T01:58:42 < kakimir> I wanted to get rid of software implementation of crc totally
2016-04-20T01:59:09 < TheSeven> well then you can only do multiples of 4 bytes
2016-04-20T01:59:19 < TheSeven> so you'll have to pad to that
2016-04-20T01:59:37 < kakimir> you mean I could... make commands size multiplier of 4 ?
2016-04-20T01:59:56 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-20T02:00:37 < kakimir> I make all commands 32bytes
2016-04-20T02:00:44 < kakimir> !
2016-04-20T02:00:47 < TheSeven> you could just add zeros at the end to make it a multiple of 32 bits
2016-04-20T02:02:46 < kakimir> ohsix: bros are in superposition
2016-04-20T02:03:00 < kakimir> hey hey
2016-04-20T02:03:07 < kakimir> I can add padding in this end
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2016-04-20T02:03:33 < kakimir> it's not that bad
2016-04-20T02:03:43 < Thorn> #define CMD_ENABLE_PRIVILEGED_MODE 1337
2016-04-20T02:04:15 < kakimir> hey I forgot to butt some easter egg in it
2016-04-20T02:04:32 < kakimir> CMD_BURN_THE_HOUSE
2016-04-20T02:05:03 < Thorn> use emoji as commands
2016-04-20T02:05:37 < kakimir> wild idea
2016-04-20T02:05:44 < kakimir> would you?
2016-04-20T02:05:52 < Thorn> 32 bits is enough to encode one iirc
2016-04-20T02:07:11 < kakimir> 4characters
2016-04-20T02:07:33 < kakimir> but it's readability is barely above bytecommandlevel
2016-04-20T02:08:34 < zyp> you only need one command
2016-04-20T02:08:35 < zyp> 💩
2016-04-20T02:09:10 < Thorn> I've been looking at http://emojipedia.org/pile-of-poo/
2016-04-20T02:09:40 < Thorn> great minds think alike
2016-04-20T02:10:20 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-20T02:10:27 < kakimir> you mean some unicode emojis
2016-04-20T02:11:06 < kakimir> http://emojipedia.org/unicode-6.0/
2016-04-20T02:12:24 < kakimir> doesn't unicode-8 work like that you have some character code that enters into wider set of characters and next 3 or so characters are used as parameter for that?
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2016-04-20T02:12:46 < zyp> you mean utf-8
2016-04-20T02:12:55 < zyp> and the length is variable
2016-04-20T02:13:27 < zyp> the higher the code point is, the more bytes it'll take to encode
2016-04-20T02:13:59 < kakimir> yes utf-8
2016-04-20T02:14:08 < kakimir> so it has multiple levels?
2016-04-20T02:14:26 < zyp> the ascii code points encodes in a single byte, matching ascii, shit like æøå encodes in two, asian characters typically encode in three and new bullshit like emojis typically encode in four
2016-04-20T02:14:27 < kakimir> what is the control character for it?
2016-04-20T02:14:57 < zyp> it's not a single control character, it's a whole mapping scheme
2016-04-20T02:15:26 < Laurenceb__> http://8ch.net/pol/src/1461103203286.png
2016-04-20T02:15:33 < zyp> any byte with a value > 0x7f starts a multibyte sequence (if it's not already part of one)
2016-04-20T02:15:46 < Thorn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8#Description see table
2016-04-20T02:15:50 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8#Description
2016-04-20T02:15:55 < Laurenceb__> lol crt
2016-04-20T02:15:58 < zyp> Thorn beat me to it
2016-04-20T02:16:25 < Thorn> there is also utf-16 with its surrogate pairs
2016-04-20T02:16:34 < Thorn> you can crash iphones with them
2016-04-20T02:16:47 < zyp> fuck utf-16
2016-04-20T02:17:15 < kakimir> who the fuck uses utf-16?
2016-04-20T02:17:31 < kakimir> propably it's for asia or so
2016-04-20T02:17:33 < BrainDamage> asians
2016-04-20T02:17:38 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-20T02:17:44 < zyp> haha
2016-04-20T02:17:47 < BrainDamage> also windows likes to pretend wide chars are enough
2016-04-20T02:17:57 < zyp> as if asians care about unicode at all
2016-04-20T02:18:01 < kakimir> winlols.. why so shitty
2016-04-20T02:18:16 < BrainDamage> they love their mojibake
2016-04-20T02:18:16 < zyp> look at any jp website, it'll be sjis or some shit
2016-04-20T02:19:40 < BrainDamage> while this is a propaganda site, i think it highlights nicely the differences between encodings: http://utf8everywhere.org/
2016-04-20T02:20:52 < kakimir> I remember there was encoding wars when I was young in IRCs
2016-04-20T02:21:16 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-20T02:21:21 < kakimir> I got bananas then
2016-04-20T02:21:31 < zyp> thankfully everybody eventually settled on utf8
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2016-04-20T02:27:22 < zyp> BrainDamage, I agree with the conclusion that utf16 is legacy bullshit
2016-04-20T02:29:57 < Thorn> http://emojipedia.org/reversed-hand-with-middle-finger-extended/
2016-04-20T02:30:48 < Thorn> suitable as an "access denied" message
2016-04-20T02:31:20 < kakimir> I don't see part that says I couldn't write byte size value with crc32 mode
2016-04-20T02:32:21 < kakimir> it's just library code that does it
2016-04-20T02:32:32 < kakimir> 8bit crc - 8bit input and so on
2016-04-20T02:34:05 < zyp> hmm
2016-04-20T02:34:10 < zyp> seems to vary between parts
2016-04-20T02:34:37 < zyp> F3 RM explicitly says that 8- and 16-bit writes are supported, F4 RM doesn't mention it
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2016-04-20T02:35:34 < zyp> F3 CRC periph got a few extra registers to set polynomial and initial value too, so there's probably two different versions of the periph
2016-04-20T02:35:42 < kakimir> hmm major financial new - china has bind yuan to gold
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2016-04-20T02:36:32 < zyp> hmm
2016-04-20T02:36:50 < kakimir> paradigm shift
2016-04-20T02:37:28 < kakimir> crt: what town?
2016-04-20T02:37:35 < zyp> so my conclusion is that CRCv1 only supports 32-bit writes, CRCv2 supports all sizes
2016-04-20T02:37:49 < zyp> kakimir, which part are you using?
2016-04-20T02:38:19 < kakimir> lpc15
2016-04-20T02:38:27 < zyp> oh, haha
2016-04-20T02:38:37 < zyp> then it's pointless to look at stm32 docs :p
2016-04-20T02:38:59 < zyp> idk about LPC, figure that out on your own :p
2016-04-20T02:39:27 < kakimir> it seems to have per byte native hardware as 16bit takes 2 clock cycles and 32bits take 4
2016-04-20T02:40:26 < zyp> should be easy to test
2016-04-20T02:40:51 < zyp> just check whether 0x55, 0x0055 and 0x00000055 produces the same result or different results
2016-04-20T02:41:06 < zyp> if it's the same, they are all padded to 0x00000055
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2016-04-20T02:52:18 < kakimir> I wonder why the program is found inside reset ISR
2016-04-20T02:52:22 < kakimir> line __main
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2016-04-20T02:53:22 < kakimir> and now it works again
2016-04-20T02:53:56 < kakimir> main function has notion on it's left that breakpoint installation failed
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2016-04-20T03:00:51 < kakimir> it's random again
2016-04-20T03:01:06 < kakimir> fuk this.. movie time
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2016-04-20T03:06:24 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/QDFtO7d
2016-04-20T03:07:14 < kakimir> hah
2016-04-20T03:07:22 < kakimir> what are those turds called
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2016-04-20T03:09:34 < dongs> getting stoned
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2016-04-20T03:10:14 < Rob235> is there a usual limit on microsd card readers?
2016-04-20T03:10:18 < Rob235> capacity
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2016-04-20T03:18:19 < dongs> i got schooled by some chinaguy in altidong symbol creation
2016-04-20T03:18:56 < kakimir> really
2016-04-20T03:19:01 < kakimir> is it even possible?
2016-04-20T03:19:08 < dongs> makes one pin w/designator 0, copy, paste array to match pins, then opens schematic list and you can enter part names into spreadsheet-like thing and move to next pin w/enter
2016-04-20T03:20:36 < TheSeven> Rob235: a 2GB limit on really old ones
2016-04-20T03:20:56 < TheSeven> and probably a 2TB limit on newer ones
2016-04-20T03:21:29 < Rob235> I don't even need a gig but this will do
2016-04-20T03:22:37 < TheSeven> the claimed 32GB limit on various stuff is usually nonexistent and just a result of cards >32GB being formatted with exFAT by default (but that can easily be changed)
2016-04-20T03:23:52 < jadew> man, writing documentation sucks
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2016-04-20T03:36:40 < jadew> yeah, that'll work
2016-04-20T03:36:52 < jadew> I'm gonna take a break till tomorrow
2016-04-20T03:37:49 < jadew> it's rather hard to make things that seem simple in your head to sound simple when described in text
2016-04-20T03:38:14 < jadew> my new framework
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2016-04-20T03:51:30 < dongs> i heard the code should be self-documenting
2016-04-20T03:51:36 < dongs> if  you have to think how to document it, you did it wrong
2016-04-20T03:54:14 < jadew> dongs, I'm not trying to document the code
2016-04-20T03:54:21 < jadew> I'm trying to document how to use it
2016-04-20T03:54:51 < dongs> why is THAT not self-explanatory
2016-04-20T03:55:44 < jadew> because it's a complex thing and things can be done in lots of ways for many reasons
2016-04-20T03:56:39 < jadew> you have to at least hint at the posibilities
2016-04-20T04:15:47 < lorenzo> stm32 question incoming brace yourselves
2016-04-20T04:15:52 < lorenzo> stdperiph has no hal_delay right?
2016-04-20T04:16:58 < jadew> no, because precise delays require a timer
2016-04-20T04:17:22 < jadew> actually, let me change that to "probably not"
2016-04-20T04:17:26 < jadew> I don't use stdperiph
2016-04-20T04:18:14 < dongs> lorenzo: has none
2016-04-20T04:18:28 < dongs> you can use cortex cycle counter-based delay
2016-04-20T04:20:46 < lorenzo> got it thanks dongs jadew
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2016-04-20T04:27:07 < upgrdman> tempted to make something, but feel like this might be something readily available. i want to use a cheap atx psu, but with an adjustable current limit.
2016-04-20T04:27:33 < upgrdman> thinking a high-side current sense amp + shunt, and either a big ass p-mos or big ass relay
2016-04-20T04:27:46 < upgrdman> and mcu + lcd + buttons
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2016-04-20T05:02:39 < jadew> structure on the moon in nasa photo: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/images/content/393894main_ACD09-0220-089_full.jpg
2016-04-20T05:02:49 < jadew> check the picture under that guy's arm
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2016-04-20T05:03:27 < dongs> cool conspiracy theories bro
2016-04-20T05:03:37 < jadew> just check the picture
2016-04-20T05:03:45 < dongs> too low rez to give a fuck
2016-04-20T05:03:48 < dongs> i see some rectangle
2016-04-20T05:04:28 < jadew> hmm, on a second thought, it could be something orbitting it
2016-04-20T05:05:59 < jadew> an alien space ship
2016-04-20T05:06:02 < jadew> jk
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2016-04-20T05:30:00 < dongs> wot
2016-04-20T05:30:14 < dongs> TO-220 is standard package, WITH a tab
2016-04-20T05:30:33 < dongs> http://uk.farnell.com/richco/iec-to-220-18/cover-iec-to-220-pk25/dp/1325997 heres one wiht a monster tab
2016-04-20T05:31:02 < dongs> o wait no its tab cover
2016-04-20T05:31:24 < dongs> https://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/137050/TO220_fake.JPG
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2016-04-20T05:48:18 < dongs> haha
2016-04-20T05:48:28 < dongs> weell i cant read german or wahtever hte fuck that image is titleeed with
2016-04-20T05:48:31 < dongs> is the thin one the "real" one?
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2016-04-20T05:59:49 < ReadError> https://getsharex.com/
2016-04-20T05:59:55 < ReadError> super dopetastic app
2016-04-20T06:00:00 < ReadError> if you use windows
2016-04-20T06:00:16 < ReadError> does soooooo much shit
2016-04-20T06:00:27 < ReadError> and its opensores!
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2016-04-20T06:00:39 < ReadError> and actually works and is good
2016-04-20T06:00:49 < ReadError> eh
2016-04-20T06:01:35 < ReadError> https://github.com/ShareX/CustomUploaders/blob/master/jesusfuck.me.json
2016-04-20T06:01:40 < ReadError> need I say more.
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2016-04-20T06:15:58 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/XB18/mobaxterm-2016-04-19-23-15-39.png
2016-04-20T06:16:00 < ReadError> cant complain
2016-04-20T06:16:08 < ReadError> high quality and fast host
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2016-04-20T07:57:36 < dongs> http://www.daniel-mitchell.com/blog/video-in-a-video-ffmpeg/ reading
2016-04-20T07:58:19 < dongs> stm32 will be doing the encoding
2016-04-20T07:58:28 < dongs> thanks for your concern tho
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2016-04-20T08:09:54 < dongs> alticock gerber generation is fucking awful
2016-04-20T08:09:55 < dongs> slow
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2016-04-20T10:14:46 < dongs> if only you could acutally make use of that information for something
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2016-04-20T10:17:25 < Martin90> can I alocate program .sections in flash memory using linker script instead of SRAM ?
2016-04-20T10:19:25 < Martin90> i.e program instructions are they stored in flash or SRAM >
2016-04-20T10:19:29 < Martin90> by default..
2016-04-20T10:19:32 < dongs> like .code?
2016-04-20T10:19:34 < dongs> flash of course
2016-04-20T10:19:53 < dongs> you have to specifically force code stuff to be in ram
2016-04-20T10:21:15 < Martin90> ok, does have any sense to put whole app in SRAM ?
2016-04-20T10:21:23 < Martin90> all sections
2016-04-20T10:21:33 < jpa-> rarely
2016-04-20T10:21:43 < jpa-> for one thing, the program would be gone as soon as you lose power
2016-04-20T10:21:52 < Martin90> I have enough SRAM of course
2016-04-20T10:23:16 < Martin90> sorry "tcm" ?
2016-04-20T10:23:20 < dongs> some do
2016-04-20T10:24:30 < jpa-> it can make sense to put speed-intensive parts into RAM, but usually you also have to put them in flash and copy to RAM on boot
2016-04-20T10:24:44 < dongs> or let startup copy it for you
2016-04-20T10:24:47 < dongs> if  you're using a real compiler
2016-04-20T10:24:50 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-20T10:24:55 < Martin90> jpa-: good point!
2016-04-20T10:24:55 < jpa-> i can't see why you'd need to put whole program to ram
2016-04-20T10:25:12 < Martin90> no no whole
2016-04-20T10:25:35 < Martin90> just sections
2016-04-20T10:25:45 < jpa-> well, one reason might be if this was an auxilary processor that gets its code loaded from main processor on boot; then it would make sense
2016-04-20T10:25:51 < Martin90> in the same way I can set stack to be in flash instead of SRAM, correct ?
2016-04-20T10:25:56 < Martin90> using that linker script
2016-04-20T10:26:03 < dongs> then just read how to mark functions as 'execute from ram' for your compiler, and done
2016-04-20T10:26:10 < dongs> > stack
2016-04-20T10:26:11 < dongs> > flash
2016-04-20T10:26:11 < dongs> wat
2016-04-20T10:26:17 < jpa-> luls
2016-04-20T10:26:18 < dongs> how do you expet that to work
2016-04-20T10:26:48 < dongs> in keil its pretty easy
2016-04-20T10:26:49 < jpa-> Martin90: well, sure, you can set it, but it will not work because flash is not random-rewritable
2016-04-20T10:26:55 < dongs> just put ram functions into its own file
2016-04-20T10:27:02 < dongs> and mark it as ram segment
2016-04-20T10:27:12 < jpa-> in gcc you can put __attribute__(((sdf.sjdjfsldfjls)) and be done with it!
2016-04-20T10:27:19 < dongs> it will automatically make jump hooks/veneer/wahtever the fuck for it
2016-04-20T10:27:25 < dongs> and it will just work
2016-04-20T10:27:33 < dongs> yeah but you'd have to google and find 10 conflicting blog posts
2016-04-20T10:27:44 < jpa-> yeah
2016-04-20T10:28:09 < Martin90> dongs: what do you mean by RAM function ?
2016-04-20T10:28:18 < dongs> Martin90: as in the fucking code you want to run from RAM
2016-04-20T10:28:20 < dongs> instead of flash
2016-04-20T10:28:31 < dongs> like, the whole reeaeson this discussion started in teh first place??
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2016-04-20T10:29:42 < dongs> I ran copyrighted video through scanlinez0r and so far jewtub hasnt banned it
2016-04-20T10:29:48 < Martin90> so there is no way to sucefully have stack in flash section
2016-04-20T10:30:01 < dongs> how would it work?
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2016-04-20T10:30:32 < Martin90> I can Imagine pop operation but push is a problem
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2016-04-20T10:31:54 < Martin90> ohsix, for example set SP on such region right ?
2016-04-20T10:32:06 < Martin90> then what ?
2016-04-20T10:32:32 < Martin90> but as jpa-, pointed out flash is not random-write memory
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2016-04-20T10:33:21 < jpa-> next question: can you have stack on STM32L1 eeprom area? it is random-write, though it is crazy slow
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2016-04-20T10:34:17 < Martin90> jpa-: why not ?
2016-04-20T10:34:33 < Martin90> if we can read and write I am sure we can set stack in that region
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2016-04-20T10:34:47 < jpa-> well it might not be hooked to the right bus on the cpu, but i guess stack goes through the same bus as other data access
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2016-04-20T10:35:10 < dongs> sounds like something only gcc people would even think up
2016-04-20T10:35:18 < dongs> "how do we do something really dumbZ"
2016-04-20T10:35:25 < dongs> -Z, duno how that got preessed.
2016-04-20T10:35:27 < Martin90> but how much of stack is in hardware, just stack pointer ?
2016-04-20T10:35:39 < Martin90> and instructions like push and pop ?
2016-04-20T10:35:43 < jpa-> yes
2016-04-20T10:35:53 < Martin90> so I think we can
2016-04-20T10:35:59 < dongs> Martin90: on  F4/whatever with tcm, you can have stack  for threads/etc in that faster memory
2016-04-20T10:36:13 < dongs> if you really care
2016-04-20T10:36:30 < dongs> thats waht I used it on F4, but not becaues of performance just because it would be wasteed otherwise
2016-04-20T10:36:31 < Martin90> what do you mean by fatser mem ?
2016-04-20T10:36:32 < jpa-> and you probably want to, because the tcm is useless for most things :)
2016-04-20T10:36:35 < dongs> yes
2016-04-20T10:36:47 < dongs> since you cant DMA to/from it
2016-04-20T10:37:16 < Martin90> dongs, faaster then SRAM, so do you think about stack in cache :P ?
2016-04-20T10:37:31 < dongs> i dont know, I dont assburger these kinda topics
2016-04-20T10:37:36 < dongs> i just write code, it works, the eened
2016-04-20T10:37:45 < dongs> end, too fucking shit filco doubleclicking EEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEE
2016-04-20T10:37:58 < dongs> e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e..e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.ee.e.
2016-04-20T10:38:01 < dongs> e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e..e.e.e.e.
2016-04-20T10:38:24 < Martin90> btw, I see in some documentation that memory is split in segments but I can't see any utility near CPU for decoding these segments, so does it means that it is done in CPU ?
2016-04-20T10:38:45 < Martin90> I mean how they did these segments instead of linear address space
2016-04-20T10:39:05 < Martin90> and added some write protections for some sections maybe ... ?
2016-04-20T10:39:26 < Thorn> the address space is linear
2016-04-20T10:39:38 < Thorn> there're multiple memories in it
2016-04-20T10:40:24 < Martin90> but what about these segments ?
2016-04-20T10:40:47 < Martin90> is that  what you meand by "multiple memories" ?
2016-04-20T10:41:47 < Thorn> there're no segments in the x86 sense
2016-04-20T10:42:38 < Martin90> I am talking about uC
2016-04-20T10:43:54 < Martin90> in doc they splited memory into segments
2016-04-20T10:44:57 < Martin90> what is even more interesting they devoted first segement for virtual address space - how is that possible on uC ?
2016-04-20T10:45:09 < jpa-> umm, which doc are you talking about?
2016-04-20T10:45:22 < Martin90> no it's not STM32
2016-04-20T10:45:44 < Martin90> it is specific chip
2016-04-20T10:46:11 < Martin90> but nevertheless it still uC
2016-04-20T10:46:15 < jpa-> so how do you expect us to be able to answer when we don't even know what chip you are talking about?
2016-04-20T10:46:45 < Martin90> I am not expecting answer related to that specific MCU, rather general one
2016-04-20T10:46:59 < Martin90> have you ever seen somethjing like virtual address space on MCU ?
2016-04-20T10:47:11 < Martin90> i am also a bit confused about these segments
2016-04-20T10:47:12 < jpa-> sure, there are MCUs with MMU
2016-04-20T10:47:26 < jpa-> "segment" is a word that can mean bazillion different things
2016-04-20T10:47:38 < Martin90> jpa-: but on block diagram they don't show any MMU
2016-04-20T10:48:26 < Martin90> sure but in refernce to memory it can has only one meaning
2016-04-20T10:48:36 < Martin90> or 2 :P
2016-04-20T10:49:07 < Martin90> what I don't know is how decoding to physical addresses is done
2016-04-20T10:49:20 < jpa-> say the chip name already.
2016-04-20T10:49:40 < Martin90> Infineon Aurix TC23x
2016-04-20T10:49:44 < qyx> lol
2016-04-20T10:50:16 < Martin90> can you say anything about that one ?
2016-04-20T10:50:41 < dongs> lots of 8051 trash has segments
2016-04-20T10:50:46 < dongs> because its 8bit garbage
2016-04-20T10:51:05 < jpa-> paywalled docs?
2016-04-20T10:51:25 < dongs> automotive shit? psh
2016-04-20T10:51:42 < dongs> 1. Please register under myinfineon.com (only company address allowed, no private mail e.g. google, yahoo, …)
2016-04-20T10:51:43 < jpa-> Martin90: can you link to the document that talks about segments?
2016-04-20T10:51:45 < dongs> HEH
2016-04-20T10:52:32 < jpa-> but yeah, seems like it has MPU but no MMU; maybe they are talking about the MPU allowed areas?
2016-04-20T10:52:34 < Martin90> dongs: like dongs said they only provide doc for customers
2016-04-20T10:52:43 < dongs> well since youre a customer
2016-04-20T10:52:45 < dongs> fucking call them
2016-04-20T10:52:48 < dongs> and ask asinine shit
2016-04-20T10:52:49 < Martin90> s/dongs/jpa-/
2016-04-20T10:52:50 < dongs> instead of asking people on irc
2016-04-20T10:53:18 < Martin90> ;)
2016-04-20T10:53:31 < jpa-> yeah, or just upload the docs somewhere
2016-04-20T10:53:42 < dongs> its probably plastered with his company name all over
2016-04-20T10:53:46 < dongs> top secret NDA clearance
2016-04-20T10:53:54 < jpa-> sure, but we keep secrets, right?
2016-04-20T10:54:03 < dongs> not with ohsix in here
2016-04-20T10:54:31 < jpa-> ah, forgot about him
2016-04-20T10:54:34 < Martin90> ok thank you ;]
2016-04-20T10:55:23 < upgrdman> asked earlier, but now theres people here:
2016-04-20T10:55:46 < upgrdman> upgrdman> tempted to make something, but feel like this might be something readily available. i want to use a cheap atx psu, but with an adjustable current limit.
2016-04-20T10:55:46 < upgrdman> <upgrdman> thinking a high-side current sense amp + shunt, and either a big ass p-mos or big ass relay
2016-04-20T10:55:46 < upgrdman> <upgrdman> and mcu + lcd + buttons
2016-04-20T10:55:58 < upgrdman> anyone know of something like this?
2016-04-20T10:55:59 < dongs> upgrdman: saw it, do it, make a blog about it
2016-04-20T10:56:11 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-20T10:56:16 < dongs> http://www.instructables.com/id/Computer-Power-Supply-to-Bench-Power-Supply-Adapte/
2016-04-20T10:56:32 < dongs> ugh that blog is useless
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2016-04-20T10:56:59 < dongs> http://hackaday.com/2014/05/12/not-your-typical-atx-power-supply-hack/
2016-04-20T10:57:07 < dongs> there's CC version
2016-04-20T10:57:27 < upgrdman> hmm
2016-04-20T10:57:33 < dongs> wait wahaaaat
2016-04-20T10:57:43 < dongs> he used "wallwarts" for "5V current limtied supply"?
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2016-04-20T10:59:33 < upgrdman> hmm i guess mod'ing the feedback circuit would be the easiest/cheapest route
2016-04-20T11:06:07 < upgrdman> fuck it, i'll make it universal so i can plug it into whatever
2016-04-20T11:06:20 < upgrdman> time to find a relay thats good for at least 40A 40V DC
2016-04-20T11:06:33 < upgrdman> are solid state relays good for this app?
2016-04-20T11:14:16 < upgrdman> who point is adjust current trip
2016-04-20T11:14:32 < upgrdman> i have plenty of atx psus collecting dust at home and over here
2016-04-20T11:14:50 < upgrdman> hmm, p-mosfet might be better for this app
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2016-04-20T11:14:57 < upgrdman> and smaller too
2016-04-20T11:17:31 < upgrdman> <$3 pmos from stm, sweet  http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STP80PF55/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMshyDBzk1%2fWi1qxDdW%2fXBi2hekoN3GjTiE%3d
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2016-04-20T11:22:40 < PeterM> wow... spensive
2016-04-20T11:23:44 < PeterM> V bru
2016-04-20T11:23:45 < PeterM> SI7149DP-T1-GE3
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2016-04-20T11:26:03 < PeterM> that stp80pf55 will dissipate like 25w @40a
2016-04-20T11:26:59 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-20T11:27:13 < upgrdman> and im thinking about how the cost of the rest of the circuit will add up
2016-04-20T11:27:28 < upgrdman> "maybe i can get by with a handful of polyfuses"
2016-04-20T11:27:34 < PeterM> actually
2016-04-20T11:27:39 < PeterM> i know the perfect product for you
2016-04-20T11:27:56 < PeterM> infineon smarty power switches
2016-04-20T11:28:10 < upgrdman> linky for the lazy?
2016-04-20T11:29:18 < PeterM> http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/power/smart-low-side-and-high-side-switches/high-side-switch/automotive-intelligent-high-side-power-switch-ips/channel.html?channel=5546d4624d6fc3d5014d9f398ff05632#goto_producttable
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2016-04-20T11:35:53 < upgrdman> hmm i could even go super pro with some polyfuses + led/resistor in parallel for short circuit detection ;)
2016-04-20T11:37:50 < PeterM> depends on how often you intend for them to trip
2016-04-20T11:38:10 < PeterM> polyfuses have a cycle life
2016-04-20T11:38:44 < upgrdman> maybe 100 times?
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2016-04-20T11:39:02 < upgrdman> i just want to use an atx psu for EE fucking around when im traveling
2016-04-20T11:39:12 < upgrdman> and i dont want to carry my nice psus
2016-04-20T11:39:30 < upgrdman> but atx psu + bag of polyfuses i could just toss around
2016-04-20T11:42:11 < PeterM> why dont you just.. i dunno, get a 48v powerbrick and stick a HV CC/CV buck on the output?
2016-04-20T11:42:41 < upgrdman> hmm
2016-04-20T11:42:52 < dongs> atx repurposing does sound retarded
2016-04-20T11:43:05 < PeterM> sounds super impractical for "portable"
2016-04-20T11:43:05 < dongs> you're getting up tehre on the MAKE:R uselessness level
2016-04-20T11:43:13 < upgrdman> but it would also be the cheapest. like $5 is polyfuses, done.
2016-04-20T11:43:13 < PeterM> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1813094.pdf
2016-04-20T11:43:27 < PeterM> full bom is liek $10
2016-04-20T11:43:37 < PeterM> stick that on a 48v psu done
2016-04-20T11:44:52 < PeterM> also, glorious nippon silicon, slice through dirty gaijin power no problem.
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2016-04-20T11:48:23 < PeterM> wait, that part isnt the one i was thinking of - very similar but not quite the same
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2016-04-20T12:11:54 < Martin90> what is the difference between program skretch pad memory and data skratch pad memory ?
2016-04-20T12:12:08 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-20T12:13:22 < jpa-> one is mistyped differently than the other+
2016-04-20T12:17:10 < Martin90> :P
2016-04-20T12:17:14 < Martin90> why the split then
2016-04-20T12:17:56 < Martin90> maybe some protection/error checking
2016-04-20T12:18:21 < zyp> I-bus vs D-bus?
2016-04-20T12:18:51 < Martin90> huh ?
2016-04-20T12:20:33 < jpa-> that would be my guess also
2016-04-20T12:21:01 < zyp> Martin90, read up on harvard architecture if you're not familiar with it
2016-04-20T12:21:43 < Martin90> zyp: I am familiar with it ;)
2016-04-20T12:22:25 < zyp> good, then you know what the I-bus and the D-bus is
2016-04-20T12:23:06 < Martin90> instruction bus and data bus right ?
2016-04-20T12:23:13 < zyp> yes
2016-04-20T12:23:47 < Martin90> but it's not necessery, they may be connected to one bus
2016-04-20T12:24:56 < zyp> what's not necessary?
2016-04-20T12:25:04 < PeterM> where is CRT/LCD when you need him http://i.imgur.com/eoHZxvy.jpg
2016-04-20T12:25:52 < jpa-> Martin90: but if you have separate memories for them, they probably aren't connected to same bus
2016-04-20T12:26:57 < zyp> I'm not sure exactly what Martin90 is talking about, but program scratchpad memory sounds like the CCM in F3 and data scratchpad memory sounds like the CCM in F4
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2016-04-20T12:28:16 < Martin90> " can be considered similar to the L1 cache in that it is the next closest memory to the ALU after the processor registers"
2016-04-20T12:28:36 < Thorn> he seems to be trolling about some 8051 from infineon
2016-04-20T12:30:29 < Martin90> jpa-: I see that flash is connected to cpu by that skratch pad ram
2016-04-20T12:30:41 < Martin90> so they share same bus
2016-04-20T12:30:49 < jpa-> "by"?
2016-04-20T12:31:26 < jpa-> but ok, so maybe the manufacturer is just weird and calls "cache" as "skratch pad ram"
2016-04-20T12:33:32 < PeterM> man, this all sounds super tarduino
2016-04-20T12:33:37 < PeterM> >skretch pad memory
2016-04-20T12:33:41 < PeterM> fuckin really
2016-04-20T12:34:12 < Martin90> by "by" I meant that CPU can't access flash without first going thrugh that skratch pad sections...
2016-04-20T12:34:58 < jpa-> so it is a cache?
2016-04-20T12:35:01 < zyp> sounds more like the ART in F4 then
2016-04-20T12:35:20 < jpa-> or prefetch buffer, yeah; close to the same thing
2016-04-20T12:35:48 < zyp> either way, then you're talking about instruction cache and data cache
2016-04-20T12:36:11 < zyp> even von neumann archs tend to separate those, right?
2016-04-20T12:37:22 < jpa-> mr. harvard and mr. neumann have not kept their religions pure.. everything is a mix nowadays :|
2016-04-20T12:38:14 < Thorn> btw, dataflash also has ram buffers iirc. you need to fill a buffer with data before writing it to flash. no direct writes
2016-04-20T12:38:29 < zyp> jpa-, haha, true
2016-04-20T12:39:01 < zyp> truly separate program and data spaces are stupid, and pushing everything through a single bus is slow as fuck, so the best approach tends to be a mix
2016-04-20T12:39:03 < jpa-> also SDRAM has row buffers
2016-04-20T12:47:26 < dongs> hm
2016-04-20T12:47:32 < dongs> avago/broadscum bought PLX?
2016-04-20T12:47:45 < dongs> when the fuck did that happen
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2016-04-20T12:47:51 < upgrdman> i read that as BroadsCum
2016-04-20T12:47:51 < dongs> hah 2 yearsa go
2016-04-20T12:47:55 < upgrdman> works that way too
2016-04-20T12:48:12 < dongs> Avago Technologies Ltd. said Monday it will acquire PLX Technology Inc. in an all-cash deal that values PLX at about $298.3 million, as the chip maker looks to expand its enterprise storage and networking offerings.
2016-04-20T12:48:17 < dongs> fuckin trolled
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2016-04-20T12:48:59 < mitrax> eeew the amount of filth that can accumulate
2016-04-20T12:49:04 < mitrax> in a keyboard is scary
2016-04-20T12:51:30 < PeterM> errythin from plx is under nda anyway
2016-04-20T12:51:32 < PeterM> scum
2016-04-20T12:52:03 < dongs> well, now its even worse
2016-04-20T12:52:08 < dongs> under avago/broadfail
2016-04-20T12:56:02 < dongs> Gary: Payoneer, Applause, and Toga Networks are looking for candidates like you.
2016-04-20T12:56:02 < dongs> Payoneer	 Blog Manager Israel 22 days ago
2016-04-20T12:56:16 < dongs> qualcomm israel is hiring too
2016-04-20T12:56:41 < dongs> Red HatAssociate Manager, Solutions Architecture Red Hat Israel 7 days ago
2016-04-20T12:56:42 < dongs> wuyt
2016-04-20T12:56:47 < dongs> why does r edhat have office in israel
2016-04-20T12:57:58 < Martin90> lower costs ?
2016-04-20T12:58:14 < Ecco> Guys, how would you power an LCD LED backlight from a LiPo battery?
2016-04-20T12:58:36 < Ecco> The backlight is just a few (4) leds soldered in parallel
2016-04-20T12:58:44 < Ecco> They take 20 mA each
2016-04-20T12:59:01 < Ecco> So the question is: what would be the easiest solution to build a constant-current power source at 80mA?
2016-04-20T13:00:07 < Thorn> tl431?
2016-04-20T13:00:45 < jpa-> four of those funny-20mA-thingies in parallel :P
2016-04-20T13:01:13 < jpa-> TL431 works but needs pretty big drop (2.5V)
2016-04-20T13:01:51 < jpa-> Ecco: but for leds, you can just use series resistor
2016-04-20T13:02:08 < jpa-> well.. depending on voltage, though
2016-04-20T13:03:04 < dongs> Ecco: use a fucking wled driver chip
2016-04-20T13:03:20 < jpa-> *fucking lewd driver chip
2016-04-20T13:06:10 < mitrax> Ecco: are they in parallel inside the LCD or is it some LEDs you added yourself? usually LCD backlights are made of LED in series and you use a boost driver such as ncp5007
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2016-04-20T13:28:43 < PeterM> or you could jsut use one of those constant current sink chips
2016-04-20T13:30:10 < karlp> kakimir: why do you want to go to hannover messe?
2016-04-20T13:31:11 < dongs> MTBF: 50,927,360 hours
2016-04-20T13:31:17 < dongs> thats fucking specific
2016-04-20T13:31:56 < dongs> 5814 years
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2016-04-20T13:37:56 < dongs> fuckkkkkkkkkkk
2016-04-20T13:37:59 < dongs> dual row qfn
2016-04-20T13:38:13 < zyp> fun
2016-04-20T13:38:27 < zyp> double the rows, double the awful
2016-04-20T13:38:56 < PeterM> i assume dual row WITH thermal pad too
2016-04-20T13:39:06 < dongs> with dual-row thermal pad even
2016-04-20T13:39:12 < PeterM> damn
2016-04-20T13:39:54 < jpa-> dual row qfn, the problems of bga, but without established procedures to cope with them
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2016-04-20T13:48:49  * mitrax waves at crt
2016-04-20T13:49:11 < mitrax> been keiling much?
2016-04-20T13:53:33 < mitrax> atm i'm wondering if it's necessary to put qr or bar code on the labels i print or if my co workers are smart enough to not fuck up when entering a 6 digit serial num
2016-04-20T13:53:49 < mitrax> guess i could make it 7 digit and include a checksum
2016-04-20T13:54:19 < PeterM> make all your serial numbers prime.
2016-04-20T13:54:23 < mitrax> ahaha
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2016-04-20T13:56:49 < mitrax> lunch time
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2016-04-20T14:25:52 < dongs> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8OEAAOSwoudW68pW/s-l1600.jpg yessssssssssss
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2016-04-20T14:28:43 < Sync> now you can watch your yappupronz while driving
2016-04-20T14:28:57 < zyp> haha
2016-04-20T14:29:27 < dongs> http://fukuoka.craigslist.jp/trp/5546480716.html totally legit
2016-04-20T14:30:04 < zyp> haha
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2016-04-20T14:35:40 < Sync> wat
2016-04-20T14:35:56 < Sync> importing them drugz from SK or what?
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2016-04-20T14:43:42 < Ecco> mitrax: the LEDs are in parallel in the panel
2016-04-20T14:47:31 < mitrax> Ecco: then use eg. http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/308/CAT4004A-D-186584.pdf
2016-04-20T14:48:53 < mitrax> Ecco: oh err, you only have two lines? not individual leds
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2016-04-20T14:49:13 < mitrax> crt: i like your shed
2016-04-20T14:51:23 < Ecco> Yeah, I only have Vin and GND
2016-04-20T14:52:04 < Ecco> But thanks for the link, it's indeed probably that kind of thing that I'd want to use
2016-04-20T14:53:33 < dongs> 1wire
2016-04-20T14:58:51 < qyx> speaking of 1 wire
2016-04-20T14:59:02 < qyx> anyone did PLC with a stm32?
2016-04-20T14:59:15 < qyx> just DC, not AC
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2016-04-20T15:02:39 < Laurenceb__> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/19/bounceback_blunder_borks_bt_boxes/
2016-04-20T15:02:45 < Laurenceb__> someone got trolled hard
2016-04-20T15:03:05 < Laurenceb__> lul the pic
2016-04-20T15:03:24 < Laurenceb__> qyx: there is an avr app note on 1wire using uart
2016-04-20T15:09:25 < qyx> yep, I know that thing, but I need to modulate it on a DC power line somehow
2016-04-20T15:12:55 < Laurenceb__> wut
2016-04-20T15:13:02 < Laurenceb__> crt is a perman00b
2016-04-20T15:13:40 < BrainDamage> for not knowing all the omgwtf akronyms by memory?
2016-04-20T15:14:37 < Laurenceb__> on arduino amirite
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2016-04-20T15:51:46 < Thorn> so I complain to an aliexpress seller about no tracking for 14 days after they gave me the tracking #
2016-04-20T15:52:33 < Thorn> several hours later, it appears on the china post website
2016-04-20T15:54:06 < Thorn> there is no "package accepted" record either
2016-04-20T15:54:26 < Thorn> could they bribe china post to show false tracking data? lol
2016-04-20T15:55:53 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/E_R7rFS0pzc?t=34s
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2016-04-20T16:53:07 < jpa-> Thorn: sometimes i've seen sellers give just a tracking number for some totally different order that they are shipping out
2016-04-20T16:53:52 < ReadError> Thorn theres not much you can/should do until the time runs out
2016-04-20T16:53:53 < jpa-> Thorn: but yeah, it is pretty typical that tracking info from china appears only few days before the package already arrives :)
2016-04-20T16:53:57 < ReadError> specified by the seller
2016-04-20T16:57:57 < ReadError> hmmm i dont remember ordering a rpi3
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2016-04-20T17:05:53 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/jeffbonhag/status/721353032877912064
2016-04-20T17:07:59 < ReadError> dongs must be off celebrating the holidays
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2016-04-20T17:56:06 < qyx> may be useful https://github.com/iqyx/c-semver
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2016-04-20T18:59:26 < Thorn> https://github.com/iqyx/c-semver/blob/master/src/c_semver.c#L126 wat
2016-04-20T19:00:48 < Laurenceb_> looks like my fat format code
2016-04-20T19:08:52 < Thorn> >Laurenceb_ develops a new defibrillator
2016-04-20T19:08:56 < Thorn> >zap_the_patient(int power) { (void)power; return OK; }
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2016-04-20T19:22:41 < Laurenceb_> while(crab) {
2016-04-20T19:22:48 < Laurenceb_> crabpost();
2016-04-20T19:23:43 < qyx> Thorn: thats just my OCPD
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2016-04-20T19:24:40 < qyx> If a code requires init() to be called, free() should be there too
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2016-04-20T19:36:57 < Laurenceb_> if I have
2016-04-20T19:36:59 < Laurenceb_> 	const char Reply[]="CMD\r\n";
2016-04-20T19:37:14 < Laurenceb_> will sizeof(Reply) be 5?
2016-04-20T19:37:39 < scummos> should be 6
2016-04-20T19:37:43 < Thorn> 6
2016-04-20T19:37:56 < Laurenceb_> ah ok
2016-04-20T19:38:15 < Laurenceb_> derp because string lol
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2016-04-20T19:54:13 < Ecco> What is the underlying hardware channel used for semihosting printf?
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2016-04-20T19:54:44 < Ecco> Is it SWD?
2016-04-20T19:55:27 < mitrax> yes
2016-04-20T19:55:38 < Thorn> itm -> svw -> swd iirc
2016-04-20T19:56:12 < Thorn> *swv
2016-04-20T19:56:55 < Ecco> What would be the easiest way to output text from a running STM32 when using OpenOCD?
2016-04-20T19:57:36 < Thorn> uart and a ftdi
2016-04-20T19:57:38 < Ecco> So far I've been using gdb which is perfect for debugging, but I'd like to gather statistics from a long-running task
2016-04-20T19:57:51 < Ecco> well uart and ftdi means using extra hardware
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2016-04-20T19:59:15 < BrainDamage> that's easiest in terms developing of time and personal efforts
2016-04-20T19:59:18 < Thorn> only 1 pin
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2016-04-20T19:59:42 < BrainDamage> if you mean easiest in terms of hw complexity, use the usb serial output
2016-04-20T19:59:57 < BrainDamage> but it'd be a bit more complex to setup
2016-04-20T20:00:27 < Ecco> Indeed, that's yet another option
2016-04-20T20:00:42 < Ecco> But isn't it possible to use the JTAG port for that?
2016-04-20T20:00:52 < TheSeven> that's something that I would be interested as well
2016-04-20T20:01:15 < TheSeven> some kind of memory bounce-buffer communication via swd, as used for flashing
2016-04-20T20:01:21 < Thorn> no swv on jtag if I'm not mistaken
2016-04-20T20:02:20 < Laurenceb_> how can I debug an unknown interrupt?
2016-04-20T20:02:29 < Ecco> What about "arm semihosting" in OpenOCD? Isn't that precisely that?
2016-04-20T20:02:33 < mitrax> Ecco: isn't your stm32 connected through SWD?
2016-04-20T20:02:33 < TheSeven> well which one is it, and which chip?
2016-04-20T20:02:33 < Laurenceb_> I know I'm getting an interrupt from somewhere...
2016-04-20T20:02:36 < Laurenceb_> link register?
2016-04-20T20:03:08 < mitrax> Ecco: cause yes somehosting works with openocd, you just need to enable it
2016-04-20T20:03:26 < Thorn> http://blog.atollic.com/cortex-m-debugging-software-tracing-using-swv/itm might help
2016-04-20T20:04:07 < Ecco> mitrax: yeah, my STM32 is hooked through SWD
2016-04-20T20:04:30 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10805639
2016-04-20T20:04:42 < Laurenceb_> any ideas how to debug this?
2016-04-20T20:04:55 < mitrax> Ecco: use semihosting then, as long as it's for debugging only, be aware that it's slow though
2016-04-20T20:05:22 < Ecco> thanks!
2016-04-20T20:05:58 < TheSeven> hm, wwdg? do you have that enabled?
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2016-04-20T20:06:30 < TheSeven> or is just something jumping into the handler code spuriously?
2016-04-20T20:06:32 < Laurenceb_> <TheSeven> no
2016-04-20T20:06:39 < Laurenceb_> its all going wrong lol
2016-04-20T20:06:53 < Laurenceb_> theres def no WWDG
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2016-04-20T20:07:23 < Thorn> I've seen wrong handlers in gdb stack trace
2016-04-20T20:07:54 < Thorn> could simply mean hard fault
2016-04-20T20:07:56 < Laurenceb_> ah busfault
2016-04-20T20:07:58 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: are you sure you didn't fuck up your vector table and shifted some entries? :) (since you asked the other day i was thinking maybe you wrote it manually)
2016-04-20T20:08:10 < Laurenceb_> found it in pc
2016-04-20T20:08:11 < TheSeven> I'd probably start to have a look at the binary whether all undefined IRQs are aliased to one handler or not, where exactly the called handler code is, maybe have a peek at a stack dump after the crash, etc.
2016-04-20T20:08:44 < TheSeven> bus fault smells like unaligned access
2016-04-20T20:08:47 < Laurenceb_> gdb seems to have incorrect names
2016-04-20T20:08:51 < Laurenceb_> very odd
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2016-04-20T20:09:03 < Laurenceb_> comparing pc to disasm gives BusFault handler
2016-04-20T20:09:07 < TheSeven> maybe like access to nonexistent memory
2016-04-20T20:09:11 < Laurenceb_> ok
2016-04-20T20:09:29 < TheSeven> is your PSP register sane?
2016-04-20T20:09:34 < TheSeven> i.e. within SRAM?
2016-04-20T20:10:00 < TheSeven> fatfs sounds like something that could easily overflow the stack
2016-04-20T20:10:28 < Laurenceb_> 80081dc:	7803      	ldrb	r3, [r0, #0]
2016-04-20T20:10:39 < TheSeven> so what's r0?
2016-04-20T20:10:42 < Laurenceb_> sp             0x20004ce0
2016-04-20T20:10:51 < Laurenceb_> r0             0x20007661
2016-04-20T20:11:36 < TheSeven> hm, can you pastebin a few instructions around that ldrb? gdb might be misreporting the fault address or something
2016-04-20T20:11:54 < TheSeven> that instruction can't really bus fault with that argument
2016-04-20T20:12:22 < Laurenceb_> there is 20k of ram on f103
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2016-04-20T20:14:12 < Laurenceb_> so its loading from address held in r0  ?
2016-04-20T20:14:17 < TheSeven> hm... that would possibly explain it, but usually there's actually more ram present, just not tested, at least on the f2/f4 chips
2016-04-20T20:14:19 < TheSeven> yes
2016-04-20T20:14:46 < TheSeven> does your linker script define the correct amount of ram?
2016-04-20T20:15:36 < Laurenceb_> I think so...
2016-04-20T20:15:44 < Laurenceb_> copied it from another project using F103
2016-04-20T20:15:55 < TheSeven> well, there are different F103 variants...
2016-04-20T20:16:20 < TheSeven> I'm wondering where that pointer would come from if the linker script is correct... maybe some array index massively out of bounds?
2016-04-20T20:17:19 < Laurenceb_> its part of FatFS
2016-04-20T20:18:01 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10805660
2016-04-20T20:19:23 < Laurenceb_> ok I'm confused
2016-04-20T20:19:38 < Laurenceb_> fp=0x200018bc in my first paste, itsnt that passed at r0  ?
2016-04-20T20:20:30 < TheSeven> yes, and it's being dereferenced to get the other address
2016-04-20T20:22:40 < TheSeven> so it looks a bit like a corrupted FIL struct
2016-04-20T20:22:54 < TheSeven> where the pointer to the parent file system object is set to garbage
2016-04-20T20:23:06 < Laurenceb_> hmm thats plausible
2016-04-20T20:23:15 < Laurenceb_> I'll check my setup code
2016-04-20T20:25:23 < Laurenceb_> p FATFS_wavfile_gps
2016-04-20T20:25:23 < Laurenceb_> $109 = {fs = 0x20007661
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2016-04-20T20:25:32 < TheSeven> yup
2016-04-20T20:25:35 < Laurenceb_> origin of the weird address... dunno how it got there
2016-04-20T20:25:50 < TheSeven> is that something statically allocated?
2016-04-20T20:26:18 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-20T20:26:25 < Laurenceb_> I'll wee whats close to it in ram
2016-04-20T20:26:35 < Laurenceb_> maybe a buffer overflowed
2016-04-20T20:26:55 < TheSeven> I'd probably check whether it's initialized properly at the location where that is supposed to happen
2016-04-20T20:27:04 < TheSeven> then bisect from there where it gets trashed
2016-04-20T20:27:21 < TheSeven> or maybe even use a memory write watchpoint to nail the culprit
2016-04-20T20:28:02 < kakimir> guise is this good value http://www.ebay.com/itm/10Meters-1mm2-500C-Copper-Conductor-High-Temperature-Wire-Cable-/321458363633
2016-04-20T20:28:05 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-20T20:29:00 < Laurenceb_> there is a buffer directly below it....
2016-04-20T20:33:22 < karlp> Ecco: I use SWO fairly extensively instead of ftdi for debug output, look for ER_PRINTF and the trace support in https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/tree/master/tests/shared for instance.
2016-04-20T20:36:17 < karlp> only works on m3or better cores of course....
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2016-04-20T20:41:39 < Laurenceb_> I think I know what the problem is
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2016-04-20T20:41:55 < Laurenceb_> forbidden characters in filenames causing fatfs to go mad
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2016-04-20T20:42:31 < Steffanx> So dont do that.
2016-04-20T20:43:28 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: get the latest version, i've had problems with earlier releases
2016-04-20T20:45:18 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: R0.10 is buggy and crashes when walking directories
2016-04-20T20:47:21 < Laurenceb_> ok
2016-04-20T20:50:14 < Laurenceb_> well something is badly screwed :-/
2016-04-20T20:50:32 < Laurenceb_> maybe some isr somewhere... spitting junk across my ram
2016-04-20T20:51:04 < Laurenceb_> p SerialNumber
2016-04-20T20:51:04 < Laurenceb_> $125 = "\004NNBT-"
2016-04-20T20:51:22 < Laurenceb_> when it was read as RNBT-953B\r\n
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2016-04-20T20:54:01 < Laurenceb_> I fear this is beyond my debugging skillz
2016-04-20T20:54:10 < Laurenceb_> #1  0xffffffff in ?? ()
2016-04-20T20:56:05 < Laurenceb_> nope I'm failing hard
2016-04-20T20:56:14 < Laurenceb_> cant get any sense out of it
2016-04-20T20:58:36 < Laurenceb_> runs nicely then suddenly 0xffffffff
2016-04-20T21:01:14 < Laurenceb_> gdb is shit
2016-04-20T21:01:16 < TheSeven> hm... what kind of fault?
2016-04-20T21:01:18 < Laurenceb_> back to asm
2016-04-20T21:01:20 < TheSeven> LR? SP?
2016-04-20T21:01:31 < Laurenceb_> dunno I'll debug via asm and raw registers from now on
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2016-04-20T22:21:27 < ReadError> oh dear
2016-04-20T22:21:28 < ReadError> Laurenceb_
2016-04-20T22:21:29 < ReadError> https://www.patreon.com/freebsdgirl?ty=h
2016-04-20T22:21:35 < ReadError> Randi Harper is creating Online Activism and Open Source Anti-Harassment Tools
2016-04-20T22:21:49 < ReadError> $4,589 per month
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2016-04-20T22:46:28 < Rob235> what's the little barrel before the actual barrel plug on the end of a power supply
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2016-04-20T22:58:17 < qyx> you mean the ferrite bead?
2016-04-20T22:58:19 < qyx> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Mzk0WDUwMA==/z/-goAAOSwpDdVZ8Wt/$_1.JPG?set_id=8800005007
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2016-04-21T00:11:09 < PeterM> qyx ive seen some of those that are less than scrupulous, where it looks like a molded ferrite bead but in reailty is jsut a big chunk of plastic
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2016-04-21T00:30:10 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HSS-Blacksmiths-Drill-Bit-14-16-18-19-20-22-25mm-Straight-Shank-Twist-Bit-Tool-/221885508270 I wonder how many holes this would punch
2016-04-21T00:30:57 < kakimir> to 4mm steel
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2016-04-21T00:31:28 < kakimir> also I'm wondering if those cone type drill bits that gradually make hole larger are any good
2016-04-21T00:33:06 < kakimir> hmm it doesn't say steel
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2016-04-21T00:39:52 < ReadError> you can resharpen bits
2016-04-21T00:40:12 < kakimir> that HSS wont work with steel
2016-04-21T00:40:22 < kakimir> for long
2016-04-21T00:40:24 < ReadError> looks like some shitty bits
2016-04-21T00:40:33 < BrainDamage> HSS is literally high speed steel
2016-04-21T00:40:46 < BrainDamage> you'd be drilling a material with another with similar hardness
2016-04-21T00:40:58 < BrainDamage> it'd work temporarily, but you'll eventually ruin the bit fast
2016-04-21T00:41:12 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Pcs-4-12-20mm-3-12mm-HSS-Steel-Step-Cone-Titanium-Coated-Drill-Bit-Hole-Cutter-/231911145776 I think I order this shiet and drill 20mm holes with this
2016-04-21T00:41:26 < kakimir> titanium coating - gutt?
2016-04-21T00:42:59 < kakimir> I were drilling 20mm holes with friends router bit because those actually went thru the 4mm plate
2016-04-21T00:43:18 < kakimir> friend not happy
2016-04-21T00:44:52 < kakimir> I had to stop half way
2016-04-21T00:45:26 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-Large-HSS-Steel-Step-Cone-Drill-Titanium-Bit-Set-Hole-Cutter-4-12-20MM-3-12MM-/131766588173 I think this is more useful set
2016-04-21T00:46:27 < kakimir> seller name though
2016-04-21T00:47:47 < kakimir> dones
2016-04-21T00:47:51 < kakimir> now codes
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2016-04-21T00:54:53  * Laurenceb__ has interrupt issues
2016-04-21T00:54:55 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/interrupts.c
2016-04-21T00:55:09 < Laurenceb__> do lines 56 to 80 look ok?
2016-04-21T00:55:42 < Laurenceb__> the EXTI 5_9 handler never gets called, even if I software trigger it
2016-04-21T00:57:30 < karlp> what the fuck is that shit?
2016-04-21T00:57:53 < karlp> jesus fuck st code hurts my eyes
2016-04-21T00:58:55 < Laurenceb__> lul yup its app note copypasta
2016-04-21T01:00:41 < Laurenceb__> maybe vector table is misaligned
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2016-04-21T01:06:29 < Thorn> ENABLE for the EXTI9_5_IRQn is commented out
2016-04-21T01:07:13 < Thorn> btw do alignment errors cause usage fault or bus fault?
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2016-04-21T01:08:31 < karlp> bus I would hope
2016-04-21T01:09:06 < Laurenceb__> Thorn: enable should already be true
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2016-04-21T01:09:21 < Laurenceb__> I should clean up the ST copypasta and set ENABLE at the top lol
2016-04-21T01:09:49 < Laurenceb__> unless.... NVIC_Init clears ENABLE lulz
2016-04-21T01:13:49 < kakimir> when you copypasta code do it in as small blocks as possible and verify every change
2016-04-21T01:14:22 < kakimir> I do it because actually learning
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2016-04-21T01:35:08 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKZmg2ck1RcHVLZnc/view?usp=sharing after resuming from main breakpoint the program winds itself to this line and doesn't change from there
2016-04-21T01:35:27 < kakimir> so it apparently resets itself?
2016-04-21T01:35:58 < ReadError> offtopic
2016-04-21T01:36:01 < ReadError> LPC??
2016-04-21T01:36:32 < kakimir> no no... stm32... believe it
2016-04-21T01:36:33 < zyp> kakimir, the instruction in the disassembly view is a while(1) {}
2016-04-21T01:37:04 < zyp> 1c0 calls main, when main returns, you end up at 1c4
2016-04-21T01:37:14 < zyp> 1c4 is a jump to 1c4
2016-04-21T01:37:17 < zyp> so you get stuck there
2016-04-21T01:37:30 < kakimir> my main loop is broken?
2016-04-21T01:37:33 < kakimir> lemme see
2016-04-21T01:37:38 < zyp> yeah, it returns for some reason
2016-04-21T01:38:16 < zyp> and it's perfectly normal to do an infinite wait after main returns
2016-04-21T01:38:20 < zyp> because what else can you do?
2016-04-21T01:38:38 < karlp> restart? :)
2016-04-21T01:38:43 < kakimir> I have solid while(1) here
2016-04-21T01:39:09 < kakimir> karlp: no.. when do you restart program after terminating it?
2016-04-21T01:39:23 < karlp> I was suggesting it as someting else that could be done...
2016-04-21T01:39:28 < kakimir> actually
2016-04-21T01:39:30 < kakimir> you can
2016-04-21T01:39:31 < zyp> the __weak_main symbol in the disassembly view looks a little suspicious
2016-04-21T01:40:07 < kakimir> hmm
2016-04-21T01:40:15 < zyp> I'd set a breakpoint on 1bc and instruction step it through the branch to __weak_main
2016-04-21T01:40:16 < kakimir> maybe I need to check my project space
2016-04-21T01:40:24 < zyp> to see where it ends up
2016-04-21T01:40:36 < zyp> then again, I don't even know what your problem is
2016-04-21T01:41:10 < kakimir> 1bc?
2016-04-21T01:41:20 < zyp> address 1bc in the disassembly view
2016-04-21T01:41:34 < kakimir> oh
2016-04-21T01:41:49 < kakimir> I think this might have something to do with eclipce project space
2016-04-21T01:41:55 < zyp> I'm always looking at the assembly view when I'm debugging, source view is useless
2016-04-21T01:41:58 < kakimir> maybe there is.. another main?
2016-04-21T01:42:01 < zyp> haha
2016-04-21T01:42:09 < zyp> I have no idea, I don't use that shit :p
2016-04-21T01:42:42 < kakimir> eclipse seems to have all kind of things if you want to learn all the tricks
2016-04-21T01:42:48 < kakimir> but so does vim
2016-04-21T01:43:05 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-21T01:43:08 < zyp> yeah
2016-04-21T01:43:15 < ReadError> vim has all the things if you want to learn the tricks?
2016-04-21T01:43:18 < zyp> use whatever tools you like, but fucking learn them :p
2016-04-21T01:43:19 < ReadError> kindly, gtfo
2016-04-21T01:44:15 < zyp> ReadError, I think he meant that it has a bunch of shit that you have to learn to use :p
2016-04-21T01:44:41 < ReadError> i have no idea
2016-04-21T01:45:49 < kakimir> I have mentality I learn if I really need to
2016-04-21T01:46:09 < ReadError> learn to speak sentences that people can understand
2016-04-21T01:49:18 < kakimir> ReadError: inrelevant
2016-04-21T01:49:35 < ReadError> kakimir not a word
2016-04-21T01:49:44 < mitrax> kakimir: irrelevant :p
2016-04-21T01:50:21 < mitrax> https://www.understood.org/en/learning-attention-issues/child-learning-disabilities/dyslexia/understanding-dyslexia *cough*
2016-04-21T01:50:23 < Thorn> kakimir and the English language http://images.wisegeek.com/man-in-apron-with-hatchet-and-meat.jpg
2016-04-21T01:51:30 < kakimir> ;D
2016-04-21T01:52:21 < kakimir> that's on point
2016-04-21T01:54:22 < mitrax> samantha who?
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2016-04-21T02:01:47 < kakimir> I don't think connection error could affect outcome of debugging session
2016-04-21T02:01:50 < kakimir> but I have many
2016-04-21T02:01:59 < kakimir> keepalive something
2016-04-21T02:02:06 < kakimir> packet error something
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2016-04-21T02:04:28 < kakimir> Warn : keep_alive() was not invoked in the 1000ms timelimit. GDB alive packet not sent! (1073). Workaround: increase "set remotetimeout" in GDB
2016-04-21T02:04:31 < kakimir> Warn : negative acknowledgment, but no packet pending
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2016-04-21T02:10:06 < mitrax> kakimir: ive had that warning when debugging over a slow TCP link (openocd running on a remote box over DSL), as the message says it's just a timeout thing, i don't remember it causing real problems
2016-04-21T02:18:31  * mitrax quacks
2016-04-21T02:18:55 < kakimir> sometimes UI stay blank for I while
2016-04-21T02:19:02 < kakimir> it receives next state
2016-04-21T02:19:04 < ReadError> ohsix i got a rpi3 i guess i forgot i ordered
2016-04-21T02:19:07 < kakimir> lags sometime
2016-04-21T02:19:13 < ReadError> trying to find some shit about h264 hardware encoding
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2016-04-21T02:19:27 < ReadError> but its a real PITD
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2016-04-21T02:22:46 < kakimir> if it says that breakpoint installation failed - resource unavailable
2016-04-21T02:23:03 < kakimir> should I remove some breakpoints
2016-04-21T02:23:08 < mitrax> kakimir: yes
2016-04-21T02:23:25 < kakimir> should there be a limit?
2016-04-21T02:23:31 < mitrax> kakimir: your mcu has a limited number of hardware breakpoints
2016-04-21T02:24:04 < kakimir> so the software doesn't like.. emulate greater number of tem
2016-04-21T02:24:13 < kakimir> by moving them around and stuff
2016-04-21T02:25:15 < kakimir> it wouldn't be reliable
2016-04-21T02:25:36 < kakimir> I have 6 at the moment
2016-04-21T02:25:38 < kakimir> lemme see
2016-04-21T02:26:01 < kakimir> yes. I have six
2016-04-21T02:26:17 < kakimir> that's so sad I want to cry crt
2016-04-21T02:26:21 < ReadError> dongs  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCVG7zUaRA&feature=youtu.be
2016-04-21T02:26:25 < mitrax> kakimir: software breakpoint wouldn't work when you debug flash memory
2016-04-21T02:26:35 < mitrax> kakimir: if you want to set arbirary breakpoint anywhere at runtime that is
2016-04-21T02:28:22 < mitrax> ahahahah
2016-04-21T02:31:26 < kakimir> program never reaches second function call in main
2016-04-21T02:32:09 < kakimir> so how can main return - without reaching even second function call
2016-04-21T02:34:00  * mitrax queues the twilight zone theme
2016-04-21T02:34:50 < kakimir> how bad gcc optimization is?
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2016-04-21T02:35:50 < kakimir> I see non-inlined functions in assembly that just call another function
2016-04-21T02:35:56 < Laurenceb__> maybe Mexico will fix my interrupts
2016-04-21T02:36:17 < kakimir> they will fix it
2016-04-21T02:36:33 < kakimir> and pay you for letting them to fix it
2016-04-21T02:36:57 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-21T02:37:03 < Laurenceb__> https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/04/20/2026228/scientist-shrinks-arduino-to-size-of-an-aa-battery
2016-04-21T02:37:10 < Laurenceb__> slashdot just jumped the shark
2016-04-21T02:37:40 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-21T02:37:50 < Laurenceb__> >scientist >arduino
2016-04-21T02:38:06 < kakimir> and you wonder where academic money goes
2016-04-21T02:38:22 < Laurenceb__> on crt
2016-04-21T02:38:24 < Laurenceb__> no really
2016-04-21T02:38:37 < kakimir> they run their own arduino scene complete seperate from hobbyist scene
2016-04-21T02:38:39 < Laurenceb__> we wasted UKP 4M on CRT
2016-04-21T02:39:05 < kakimir> CRT as?
2016-04-21T02:39:26 < Laurenceb__> capillary refill timing
2016-04-21T02:39:40 < kakimir> nasa psace filght
2016-04-21T02:39:47 < karlp> gdb will shuffle hardware breakpoints, but sometimes it simply can't.
2016-04-21T02:40:29 < kakimir> oh it does?
2016-04-21T02:40:39 < mitrax> CRT as in One Armed Duck Fucker
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2016-04-21T02:41:32 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AAX_wFvPAg finnish series from 90's
2016-04-21T02:41:38 < kakimir> politically correct
2016-04-21T02:43:23 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-21T02:44:29 < kakimir> what is restart a process without terminating or relaunching?
2016-04-21T02:44:41 < kakimir> instead of that restart button I use always
2016-04-21T02:44:53 < kakimir> restart works for me
2016-04-21T02:45:22 < kakimir> eclipse you know
2016-04-21T02:45:46 < mitrax> can't stand eclipse :(
2016-04-21T02:46:27 < Laurenceb__> I was raging at gdb all afternoon lol
2016-04-21T02:46:40 < Laurenceb__> turns out it was missing my breakpoints due to optimisation
2016-04-21T02:47:27 < Laurenceb__> kakimir:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaI6kBVyu00
2016-04-21T02:47:41 < kakimir> ohsix: restart means restart
2016-04-21T02:47:49 < kakimir> it winds itself from zero to main
2016-04-21T02:48:16 < kakimir> there happens some reset propablt
2016-04-21T02:48:47 < kakimir> :50 < Thorn> kakimir and the English language http://images.wisegeek.com/man-in-apron-with-hatchet-and-meat.jpg
2016-04-21T02:48:55 < Laurenceb__> a clockwork stm32
2016-04-21T02:48:59 < kakimir> 01:50 < Thorn> kakimir and the English language http://images.wisegeek.com/man-in-apron-with-hatchet-and-meat.jpg
2016-04-21T02:49:22 < kakimir> I should watch clockwork orange again
2016-04-21T02:52:33 < kakimir> my friend broke up with his girlfriend after watching clockwork orange
2016-04-21T02:54:30 < kakimir> because he laughed thru some scene and called it "in out stunt"
2016-04-21T02:54:52 < kakimir> he enjoyed the scene way too much
2016-04-21T02:57:02 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-21T02:57:36 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlq92tQHVk
2016-04-21T02:57:41 < Laurenceb__> prior art of dickbutt
2016-04-21T02:58:21 < kakimir> he watched space oddysey half way until I informed him there was no raping in it
2016-04-21T02:59:53 < mitrax> bed time
2016-04-21T03:00:03 < mitrax> crt: tuck me in, will you?
2016-04-21T03:00:09 < kakimir> that doesn't sound healthy crt
2016-04-21T03:03:31 < kakimir> he is in jail now?
2016-04-21T03:07:34 < Laurenceb__> crt is high again
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2016-04-21T03:09:27 < kakimir> when kids come from exchange from states they have turned into drugs
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2016-04-21T03:10:43 < kakimir> me neather
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2016-04-21T03:13:59  * Laurenceb__ wonders if there is a fault on his pcb
2016-04-21T03:14:09 < Laurenceb__> that would explain lack of EXTI
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2016-04-21T03:16:37 < Laurenceb__> >watching vice
2016-04-21T03:16:45 < Laurenceb__> like buzzfeed the movie
2016-04-21T03:19:50 < kakimir> no
2016-04-21T03:20:08 < kakimir> buzzfeed is absolute cancer
2016-04-21T03:20:54 < Laurenceb__> like vice
2016-04-21T03:21:03 < Laurenceb__> anyways who cares
2016-04-21T03:21:05  * Laurenceb__ zzz
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2016-04-21T04:01:34 < brianx> we're all only in your imagination crt.
2016-04-21T04:07:26 < dongs> not much, avoiding chats due to ohsix assburgering the channel with garbage 24/7
2016-04-21T04:13:48 < upgrdman> im feeding a very high impedance signal (100K to ground causes problems) to a FET gate. i need to keep the gate from floating. is 10meg to ground enough to keep most gates low?
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2016-04-21T04:22:53 < Rob235> wow, take a break and forget everything
2016-04-21T04:23:17 < Rob235> what would cause a CC interrupt on a timer to only occur once?
2016-04-21T04:24:21 < dongs> it hates you
2016-04-21T04:25:06 < Rob235> that must be it
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2016-04-21T04:26:19 < dongs> isn't that the ARR register fault
2016-04-21T04:26:34 < dongs> or: are you clearing the flag in interrupt?
2016-04-21T04:27:44 < upgrdman> R2COM, shit design that should have used buffers on its outputs
2016-04-21T04:28:19 < upgrdman> i have FETs handy
2016-04-21T04:28:32 < upgrdman> and they digital signals so that'll have to work
2016-04-21T04:29:56 < Rob235> clearing flag in interrupt
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2016-04-21T04:32:20 < Rob235> ahh preloadconfig that must be it
2016-04-21T04:32:53 < Rob235> oh i did that already :)
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2016-04-21T05:11:23 < ReadError> "people who celebrate 4/20 already get high every other day, I don't make up a holiday for jerking off and crying in the shower wtf"
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2016-04-21T05:17:29 < Rob235> blah, for pwm what do I need, OCC preload, arr preload, what do you do when the CC interrupt occurs, just set a new CCR value right?
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2016-04-21T05:24:40 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/K992/explorer-2016-04-20-22-24-20.png
2016-04-21T05:24:45 < ReadError> dat fresh spinnydisk
2016-04-21T05:24:49 < ReadError> so fastly
2016-04-21T05:29:09 < ReadError> or sold?
2016-04-21T05:31:07 < Rob235> I'm sure he meant solid
2016-04-21T05:31:11 < Rob235> ssd
2016-04-21T05:34:57 < ReadError> nah its a real spinnydisk
2016-04-21T05:35:01 < ReadError> 1tb WD Se
2016-04-21T05:38:18 < Rob235> I'm gonna get a 6tb and an external enclosure to plug into my router for a media server, that will be nice, my 2tb is full
2016-04-21T05:40:48 < ReadError> ahh yea dd-wrt can do that right/
2016-04-21T05:41:55 < Rob235> I have an asus but a lot of routers have a usb port for a drive, just sharing the drive, nothing special
2016-04-21T05:44:04 < ReadError> i been meanin to setup some amazon glacier or some offset slow backups
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2016-04-21T05:56:54 < ReadError> ohsix find out whats good on rpi3 hardware h264 encoding
2016-04-21T05:57:07 < ReadError> if your bored anyways
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2016-04-21T06:06:51  * ReadError tips hat @ droidicus 
2016-04-21T06:07:22  * droidicus ignores ReadError and goes back to lurking ;-)
2016-04-21T06:16:43 < ReadError> ohsix
2016-04-21T06:16:46 < ReadError> like
2016-04-21T06:16:50 < ReadError> have people done iet
2016-04-21T06:16:52 < ReadError> it*
2016-04-21T06:16:55 < ReadError> made it work
2016-04-21T06:18:53 < ReadError> seen some stuff about gstreamer
2016-04-21T06:19:09 < ReadError> but what needs to be done to access the SoC hardware encoder?
2016-04-21T06:23:00 < ReadError> wonder what kind of latency I can get down to using the mipi csi interface
2016-04-21T06:23:31 < ReadError> kinda curious to try
2016-04-21T06:23:53 < ReadError> wish i had other projects finished so i could waste time on figuring that out
2016-04-21T06:24:23 < ReadError> throw an alfa card on it
2016-04-21T06:24:28 < ReadError> stripped down, good antenna
2016-04-21T06:24:32 < ReadError> see how far it will go
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2016-04-21T06:31:00 < ReadError> gotta be a grimey ass place
2016-04-21T06:31:49 < dongs> trigger fucking warning bro
2016-04-21T06:32:00 < dongs> why is that ugly cunt taking up 90% of the video sitting on a bed
2016-04-21T06:32:14 < dongs> for a video titled "electronic market"
2016-04-21T06:32:33 < dongs> page closed anyway, looks like boring shit
2016-04-21T06:32:45 < dongs> typical ohsix link
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2016-04-21T06:33:24 < dongs> dumb cunt confirmed
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2016-04-21T06:42:23 < dongs> time to stop assburgering and do something useful then maybe
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2016-04-21T07:06:14 < dongs> i can. boring shit.
2016-04-21T07:06:22 < dongs> there, just saved you hours.
2016-04-21T07:14:37 < dongs> i guess that does it
2016-04-21T07:14:42 < dongs> ohsix, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now on.
2016-04-21T07:15:01 < dongs> bbl
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2016-04-21T09:05:36 < Steffanx> Hello Cornell Randall Timberlake aka crt
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2016-04-21T09:16:10 < lorenzo> shit Renesas dev tools are expensive
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2016-04-21T09:54:12 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM&feature=youtu.be
2016-04-21T09:54:15 < ReadError> kinda neat
2016-04-21T09:59:22 < ReadError> pretty tight how they just rolled everything in
2016-04-21T09:59:31 < ReadError> and build like a fully functional factory
2016-04-21T10:00:15 < ReadError> yea but it still has to be integrated per job
2016-04-21T10:00:22 < ReadError> that would be a cool job tho
2016-04-21T10:00:28 < ReadError> bunch of shit, make it all work
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2016-04-21T10:03:03 < ReadError> im more curious about the mechanical things
2016-04-21T10:03:16 < ReadError> like be baked watching how its made or something
2016-04-21T10:03:28 < ReadError> just how everything is like in perfect harmony
2016-04-21T10:04:47 < ReadError> damn im pretty high at work
2016-04-21T10:04:56 < ReadError> well SDP has cool shit
2016-04-21T10:05:15 < ReadError> but like a lot of this machinery is hella oldschool
2016-04-21T10:05:23 < ReadError> made before computers and fancy stuff
2016-04-21T10:05:30 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-21T10:11:06 < ReadError> nah
2016-04-21T10:11:07 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4TVDSWuR5E
2016-04-21T10:11:10 < ReadError> stuff like this
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2016-04-21T10:28:53 < ReadError> his dad is forrest gump
2016-04-21T10:28:58 < ReadError> that should be listed
2016-04-21T10:31:15 < ReadError> dont smoke meth.
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2016-04-21T10:32:15 < ReadError> you obv
2016-04-21T10:32:20 < ReadError> per previous comment ;p
2016-04-21T10:33:19 < ReadError> damn getting higher
2016-04-21T10:33:31 < ReadError> time to bust out this bigninja tip
2016-04-21T10:33:39 < ReadError> dowork
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2016-04-21T10:40:55 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92rK6-p7bI
2016-04-21T10:40:58 < ReadError> this one is pretty hilarious
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2016-04-21T10:42:12 < ReadError> lol no
2016-04-21T10:42:38 < ReadError> i dont have anything i want to make
2016-04-21T10:46:32 < ReadError> oh man finished that vid again
2016-04-21T10:46:36 < ReadError> funny shit
2016-04-21T10:47:00 < ReadError> ohsix now i now about pcb assembly stuff in china
2016-04-21T10:47:09 < ReadError> i wouldnt do anything major here
2016-04-21T10:47:21 < ReadError> stuff is redic cheap
2016-04-21T10:47:32 < ReadError> like how much they can source a BOM and do assembly for
2016-04-21T10:47:40 < ReadError> sourcing is the biggest
2016-04-21T10:47:47 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-21T10:47:50 < ReadError> can get good deals
2016-04-21T10:47:53 < dongs> dumb pro cloner speaking
2016-04-21T10:48:08 < dongs> cloned some dumb shit in china, instant expert
2016-04-21T10:48:17 < ReadError> dongs nah hardly
2016-04-21T10:48:23 < dongs> k bro
2016-04-21T10:48:32 < ReadError> im just saying they can do shit cheap
2016-04-21T10:48:37 < ReadError> didnt say well/legit/etc
2016-04-21T10:48:57 < ReadError> ohsix nowhere
2016-04-21T10:49:11 < ReadError> it doesnt make sense really
2016-04-21T10:51:30 < ReadError> eh
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2016-04-21T10:58:19 < ReadError> yup
2016-04-21T10:58:27 < dongs> RIP chyna
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2016-04-21T11:15:27 < zyp> dongs, how's it shaking?
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2016-04-21T11:44:48 < ReadError> i think i played dragonquest
2016-04-21T11:44:52 < ReadError> was u like a ball
2016-04-21T11:44:54 < ReadError> slime
2016-04-21T11:45:06 < ReadError> and walk around and stuff fights you
2016-04-21T11:45:11 < ReadError> or you are in 2 boats
2016-04-21T11:45:13 < ReadError> and the boats fight
2016-04-21T11:45:19 < ReadError> ships?
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2016-04-21T12:10:15 < mitrax> Meathernet!
2016-04-21T12:11:56 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-21T12:21:48 < mitrax> crt, how's been their day today?
2016-04-21T12:24:31 < mitrax> crt: your collective selves
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2016-04-21T12:28:56 < mitrax> judios!
2016-04-21T12:29:39 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-21T12:30:42 < ReadError> oh shit silicone valley starts back here soon
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2016-04-21T12:38:06 < ReadError> eh ya but take it for what it is
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2016-04-21T12:40:15 < mitrax> that's what makes series that get it right so good imo :) i loved Mr Robot for being accurate
2016-04-21T12:42:06 < mitrax> sillicone valley? ok i haven't watched it cause i knew it would be full of gibberish, didn't know it was a comedy
2016-04-21T12:42:31 < mitrax> thought it was drama
2016-04-21T12:45:26 < mitrax> ah
2016-04-21T12:46:04 < mitrax> well from what i'm reading in that article it seems they actually made some effort to get things accurate, so it's not all BS tech?
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2016-04-21T13:02:23 < mitrax> he's gone! quick
2016-04-21T13:07:23  * mitrax shits in Laurenceb_ slippers
2016-04-21T13:09:02 < mitrax> why would it?
2016-04-21T13:12:07 < mitrax> oh
2016-04-21T13:12:38 < mitrax> no
2016-04-21T13:15:13 < mitrax> thursday i think, close to lunch time
2016-04-21T13:17:54 < mitrax> not today, still working on that product lifecycle managment / serial num tracking / flasher shit but it's related
2016-04-21T13:20:40 < mitrax> crt: you?
2016-04-21T13:21:19 < mitrax> i don't see you arm-mdk-ing much
2016-04-21T13:22:46 < mitrax> well you could at the same time
2016-04-21T13:23:32 < mitrax> cool
2016-04-21T13:24:03 < mitrax> what will the board do?
2016-04-21T13:25:13 < mitrax> okay
2016-04-21T13:26:09 < mitrax> LED stuff right, i remember
2016-04-21T13:26:39 < PeterM> "[14:14] <dongs> ohsix, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you distu..." - about fuckin time
2016-04-21T13:28:48 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-21T13:29:08 < PeterM> he usualyl spams the oftopic copypasta, never the ignore one
2016-04-21T13:35:34 < ReadError> awww yea
2016-04-21T13:35:42 < ReadError> board should be trolling by the weekend
2016-04-21T13:35:52 < ReadError> got 2 escs that work
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2016-04-21T14:13:31 < Steffanx> Keiling yet crt?
2016-04-21T14:14:01 < Steffanx> Youre still actively pumping here
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2016-04-21T14:16:18 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua2PlT33WqY
2016-04-21T14:20:30 < Laurenceb_> ok enough youtube, back to EXTI debugging for me :-/
2016-04-21T14:20:48 < Laurenceb_> my board isnt faulty, so it must be something in my config :S
2016-04-21T14:21:33 < Laurenceb_> this shit sucks
2016-04-21T14:22:05 < jpa-> yeah, i wish STM32 was made so that even when i do things wrong, right stuff would happen
2016-04-21T14:22:34 < jpa-> even the errata says nothing about incorrect code causing unwanted outcome
2016-04-21T14:22:46 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-21T14:22:48 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-21T14:23:10 < Laurenceb_>  "something" is wrong with "something"
2016-04-21T14:23:32 < Laurenceb_> it would help if I could make breakpoints work reliably
2016-04-21T14:24:09 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: you have -ggdb3  already?
2016-04-21T14:24:44 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: and optimizations turned off altogether?
2016-04-21T14:24:58 < Laurenceb_> with no optimisation my code wont fit in flash
2016-04-21T14:25:14 < Laurenceb_> I think I have ggdb3, but yeah need to check makefile
2016-04-21T14:25:40 < Laurenceb_> yes ggdb3
2016-04-21T14:26:11 < mitrax> and -Os or -O2 / -O3 ?
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2016-04-21T14:27:21 < Laurenceb_> -O2
2016-04-21T14:27:38 < Laurenceb_> breaking on function name seems to be reliable
2016-04-21T14:28:52 < Laurenceb_> ok EXTI is def broken
2016-04-21T14:29:16 < Laurenceb_> I can call EXTI_GenerateSWInterrupt(EXTI_Line7); and the EXTI interrupt is never entered
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2016-04-21T14:35:02 < Laurenceb_> aha found it, ST fail code calls EXTI_DeInit which kills all EXTI settings
2016-04-21T14:35:04 < Laurenceb_> so much fail
2016-04-21T14:39:50 < Laurenceb_> dunno... seems to think the registers might be corrupted
2016-04-21T14:42:20 < PeterM> did you stick 12v up the io again?
2016-04-21T14:43:08 < Laurenceb_> lul
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2016-04-21T14:50:19 < upgrdman_> hehe i did that last week
2016-04-21T14:50:43 < upgrdman_> "it's an open drain signal" ... uh no, it's low impedence to 12V
2016-04-21T14:50:57 < upgrdman_> luckily the TVS died for my sins
2016-04-21T14:52:15 < Laurenceb_> I've blown the tops off a few stm32
2016-04-21T14:53:29 < Laurenceb_> https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/qw_bill-meme.jpg
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2016-04-21T14:58:42 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrub1zNLzWcUjhDD5LjUGlg
2016-04-21T14:59:50 < PeterM> imgur dot com slash that linkyou knwo what i mean
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2016-04-21T15:02:20 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts
2016-04-21T15:04:03 < Laurenceb_> hah watching
2016-04-21T15:04:47 < Laurenceb_> lul he goes through the features
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2016-04-21T15:30:38 < PeterM> gimp my tools
2016-04-21T15:35:31 < mitrax> ahaha now i know what the chinese crap i own is cloned from
2016-04-21T15:38:28 < mitrax> crt: http://download.unfiltered.net/858a.jpg
2016-04-21T15:40:39 < mitrax> the reed switch that turns off the air flow when you put it back on the holder is broken on that one :/
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2016-04-21T15:51:10 < aandrew> mitrax: I have a diferent version fo the same thing
2016-04-21T15:51:38 < aandrew> mitrax: and yes... don't use the smallest nozzle, you want the middle or biggest one
2016-04-21T15:51:56 < aandrew> the small one restricts the airflow way too much and it takes forever to rework even plain old resistors
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2016-04-21T15:52:04 < aandrew> the big one works much, much more quickly
2016-04-21T15:52:14 < PeterM> i had one and thought "how bad can a cheap hot air rework station be, its jsut hot air" - the answer is, rubbish comapred to professional ones
2016-04-21T15:53:12 < PeterM> they all pretty much lie about the airtemp they're putting out too
2016-04-21T15:53:14 < mitrax> aandrew: a friend of mine sent it to me, but it had only one nozzle attached ... and yes with that small nozzle it's slow as shit to desolder even a tiny thing
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2016-04-21T15:54:10 < aandrew> PeterM: for sure. I have a thermocouple and "calibrate" against that
2016-04-21T15:55:44 < PeterM> yes, but even if you do that, it does some very... "optimistic" averaging of temperature even then.
2016-04-21T15:55:52 < PeterM> "averaging"
2016-04-21T15:59:05 < mitrax> it's the same for soldering station, proper/smart temperature regulation makes a big difference ... i noticed the Ersa ones performs much better than Wellers, though Weller is an established brand and all
2016-04-21T16:00:07 < PeterM> the weller hotair station is much better than cheap chink stuff, but isn't as good as the hakko or jbc stations
2016-04-21T16:00:16 < PeterM> the JBC station costs an arm and a leg though
2016-04-21T16:00:26 < PeterM> the hakko one isnt too bad
2016-04-21T16:00:40 < zyp> which hakko?
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2016-04-21T16:00:50 < Rob235_> any idea why this isn't working? I get one interrupt and that's it http://pastebin.com/wfdyZG9W
2016-04-21T16:01:17 < kha> PeterM: well bangforbuck there is nothing even close to the china one
2016-04-21T16:01:24 < zyp> I've got hakko pegged as a cheap brand, idk why, never owned one
2016-04-21T16:01:32 < Rob235_> I think I'm forgetting to enable a clock
2016-04-21T16:01:36 < Rob235_> hmm
2016-04-21T16:01:43 < PeterM> hakko have a product range, ranging for ok to good
2016-04-21T16:02:09 < PeterM> the fr-803b
2016-04-21T16:02:29 < Rob235_> i have the fx-888d
2016-04-21T16:02:43 < Rob235_> works great for what I need
2016-04-21T16:02:47 < PeterM> the fx-888d is awefully expensive for what it is IMHO
2016-04-21T16:03:03 < zyp> oh, it's the yellow/blue colors that makes it look cheap
2016-04-21T16:03:06 < zyp> kinda ikea
2016-04-21T16:03:11 < Rob235_> yea the colors are horrible
2016-04-21T16:04:14 < PeterM> 110USD for a FX888D vs 240 for a FX-951, 951 anyday, the 888d doesnt even compare
2016-04-21T16:04:52 < PeterM> basically any iron that does not use a heater coupled to the top cannot compete
2016-04-21T16:05:01 < PeterM> *directly coupled to the tip
2016-04-21T16:05:40 < PeterM> in the case of all JBC products, the heater element is prettymuch inside the tip, in a metcal the heater IS the tip and  in the 951 the heater is also i nthe tip
2016-04-21T16:06:16 < mitrax> like his jbc mate
2016-04-21T16:06:21 < Rob235_> so any idea what's going on with my timer issue? I take a couple months off from this stuff and I forgot how to set up pwm http://pastebin.com/wfdyZG9W
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2016-04-21T16:08:09 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/n9akSY9
2016-04-21T16:08:20 < PeterM> as soon as you seperate them there is negative phase margin because your tip isnt the same temp as your heater, and when you seperate your tip from the temp sensor, even less pghase margin
2016-04-21T16:08:39 < Sync> ye, the jbc tips are seksi as fuck
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2016-04-21T16:10:02 < PeterM> they're not bad
2016-04-21T16:10:59 < PeterM> the hakko 951 tips are pretty decent too
2016-04-21T16:11:07 < aandrew> PeterM: you're already averaging, the output temp is dependent on airflow, ambient air, etc.
2016-04-21T16:11:14 < aandrew> hot air reflow is a giant exercise in guesswork
2016-04-21T16:14:03 < PeterM> aandrew, thats why in a decent station you ahve feedback and regulation
2016-04-21T16:14:19 < PeterM> and hte station then pretty closely regulates its temperature
2016-04-21T16:14:24 < PeterM> HOWEVR
2016-04-21T16:14:35 < PeterM> in cheap chink stations that simply doesnt happen
2016-04-21T16:20:15 < aandrew> people have replaced the CPU with something they can program and have improved it
2016-04-21T16:20:20 < aandrew> I've got notes on it somewhere
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2016-04-21T16:33:33 < ReadError> np
2016-04-21T16:33:35 < ReadError> no
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2016-04-21T17:01:30 < Laurenceb_> anyone know if input pull up mode works on F103 portc?
2016-04-21T17:01:57 < Laurenceb_> datasheet says it can't source current, yet I've had clk output running as push/pull
2016-04-21T17:13:06 < Rob235_> when setting up pwm theres OCPolarity and OCMode.  OCmode either being pwm1 or pwm2, ocpolarity high or low.  If I have it set to pwm1/low then the signal starts low which I assume I want but the duty cycle is reversed (20% instead of 80%) I cant seem to find the right combination that works correctly
2016-04-21T17:17:26 < Rob235_> I mean I could just subtract the value from the period to get the right value but that shouldn't be necessary
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2016-04-21T17:24:30 < Rob235_> pwm2/low seems to work but starts high
2016-04-21T17:27:09 < Rob235_> nvm got it :)
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2016-04-21T17:48:18 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKN1k3WXFkMmdxWlk/view?usp=sharing there is something wrong in assembly
2016-04-21T17:48:21 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-21T17:48:29 < kakimir> it has like area that looks like that
2016-04-21T17:48:40 < kakimir> few pages o assembly
2016-04-21T17:48:58 < kakimir> nothing but movs r0, r0
2016-04-21T17:49:30 < kakimir> obiviously it runs thru it and goes into next sane function
2016-04-21T17:50:05 < kakimir> and that somehow causes main to return
2016-04-21T17:51:53 < kakimir> not totally clear to me what is the mechanism
2016-04-21T17:55:57 < Rob235_> stm32f4 can you use timer1 for pwm?
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2016-04-21T18:10:31 < Rob235_> grrr, timer3 is working but timer1 isnt
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2016-04-21T18:27:05 < Rob235_> timer1 is an advanced timer, do I have to do anything differently?
2016-04-21T18:28:17 < Laurenceb_> https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9015227&cid=51955859 thats disgusting
2016-04-21T18:28:23 < Laurenceb_> mouse videos O_o
2016-04-21T18:31:25 < Thorn> is mouse some kind of pedo code for certain age or something?
2016-04-21T18:32:57 < Laurenceb_> maybe crt knows
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2016-04-21T19:06:17 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, worship me
2016-04-21T19:08:28 < Laurenceb_> oh great owl
2016-04-21T19:08:45 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQhtaKtXwRQ
2016-04-21T19:09:44 < Laurenceb_> ^Tectu worshipping ceremony
2016-04-21T19:23:38 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2016-04-21T19:24:00 < Laurenceb_> typing Siberian Mouse into uk google gives me the "you are a sick fuck" page
2016-04-21T19:24:20  * Laurenceb_ prepares for arrival of party van
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2016-04-21T19:25:01 < ReadError> PeterM
2016-04-21T19:25:02 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=71864
2016-04-21T19:25:10 < ReadError> onsale for 45 dollahairs
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2016-04-21T19:30:31 < TheSeven> heh, let me ask here as nobody in ##electronics seems to be sure about the answer: if I have a periodic (but arbitrary) signal, and run it through an RC filter with no output load, will the mean of the input equal the mean of the output, once it has reached steady state?
2016-04-21T19:31:29 < TheSeven> configured as a lowpass of course
2016-04-21T19:32:30 < TheSeven> I think that this must be true, but the ##electronics guys have confused me :P
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2016-04-21T19:35:51 < Rob235_> does an advanced timer work differently than the general purpose timer or can you treat it as any other timer
2016-04-21T19:36:09 < TheSeven> the general purpose timer is a subset of its functionality
2016-04-21T19:36:27 < Rob235_> I cant figure out why this wont work then
2016-04-21T19:36:31 < Rob235_> blah
2016-04-21T19:36:37 < TheSeven> you can mostly run code for an general purpose timer on an advanced timer, except for a few minor differences
2016-04-21T19:37:08 < TheSeven> there are a few additional bits in regs that you need to take care of, especially if you're doing output compare
2016-04-21T19:37:37 < TheSeven> the timers that are intended for motor control etc. have another global output enable bit that the others don't have
2016-04-21T19:37:47 < TheSeven> so what exactly doesn't work?
2016-04-21T19:38:17 < Rob235_> its output compare, what special needs to be done
2016-04-21T19:39:11 < TheSeven> check the BDTR register
2016-04-21T19:39:29 < TheSeven> you probably need to set the MOE bit, which isn't present on general purpose timers
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2016-04-21T19:40:12 < Rob235_> ahh thanks let me try it
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2016-04-21T19:44:53 < Rob235_> THANK YOU
2016-04-21T19:45:04 < Rob235_> thats been driving me crazy
2016-04-21T19:46:47 < Rob235_> excellent, esc outputs working
2016-04-21T19:47:14 < TheSeven> guess why I remembered that ;)
2016-04-21T19:47:36 < Rob235_> same issue at some point?
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2016-04-21T19:47:52 < TheSeven> yup, and also took me quite a while to nail it down ;)
2016-04-21T19:50:54 < Laurenceb_> derp
2016-04-21T19:51:02  * Laurenceb_ just failed a ton of boards
2016-04-21T19:51:11 < Laurenceb_> BQ24090 !- BQ24080
2016-04-21T19:51:15 < Laurenceb_> *!=
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2016-04-21T19:51:23 < Laurenceb_> hot air time :S
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2016-04-21T19:58:29 < lorenzo> purple rain, purple raain
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2016-04-21T20:02:30 < Steffanx> I think you better close it
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2016-04-21T20:04:09 < Rob235_> if something works when plugged into usb but then acts weird when plugged into battery does that mean something isn't grounded?
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2016-04-21T20:05:49 < lorenzo> Rob235_: weird as in?
2016-04-21T20:06:41 < Rob235_> its a timer set up as pwm.  when plugged into usb it works correctly, when on battery it hast he right frequency but the duty cycle which should be about 50% is 99% and the line starts high where it starts low on usb
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2016-04-21T20:13:40 < qyx> fuk this s1d13700
2016-04-21T20:14:32 < qyx> I mean that powertip display, it took me 2 hours to realize that its contrast control is screwed
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2016-04-21T20:15:36 < qyx> 3K3 is too low, 4K7 is too much, 3K8 is the only value so far when the display is not total white and neither total black
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2016-04-21T20:58:03 < Rob235_> YAY I fried my stm32f4! .....
2016-04-21T20:58:30 < ReadError> why did you do that
2016-04-21T20:58:36 < Rob235_> I'm dumb
2016-04-21T20:58:59 < Rob235_> I was swapping back and forth between usb and battery power and ended up having them both plugged in at once and smoke!
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2016-04-21T20:59:39 < TheSeven> hm, how can just doing that fry something?
2016-04-21T21:00:25 < Rob235_> it looks like it fried the stlink
2016-04-21T21:00:39 < ReadError> why do you have battery power going to your f4 anyways ;/
2016-04-21T21:00:41 < TheSeven> how is it failing?
2016-04-21T21:01:03 < Rob235_> because a battery is going to be powering it when i'm done?
2016-04-21T21:01:20 < ReadError> hopefully though some kind of regulator
2016-04-21T21:01:26 < Rob235_> when I plug in the usb nothing happens, no lights or anything, if I plug in battery it goes on but the stlink chip starts smoking again
2016-04-21T21:01:33 < Rob235_> a 5v ubec
2016-04-21T21:01:55 < TheSeven> which stlink chip? the f103 or something microcontroller or some voltage regulator?
2016-04-21T21:02:11 < Rob235_> no idea, i'm pretty new to this stuff
2016-04-21T21:02:16 < Rob235_> let me look at it
2016-04-21T21:02:29 < TheSeven> ok, so which board are you talking about? stm32f4discovery I'd guess?
2016-04-21T21:02:30 < Rob235_> its the big one
2016-04-21T21:02:34 < Rob235_> yea
2016-04-21T21:02:54 < TheSeven> and you're talking about the 48 pin chip at the top center of it?
2016-04-21T21:03:03 < Rob235_> f103
2016-04-21T21:03:09 < Rob235_> yea
2016-04-21T21:03:17 < TheSeven> where did you connect the battery?
2016-04-21T21:03:25 < Rob235_> gnd and vdd
2016-04-21T21:03:29 < TheSeven> and what kind of battery is it?
2016-04-21T21:03:34 < Rob235_> 4s lipo
2016-04-21T21:03:39 < TheSeven> ouch
2016-04-21T21:03:57 < Rob235_> which had a 5v ubec connected to it
2016-04-21T21:03:57 < TheSeven> so about 12V into a 3.0V rail
2016-04-21T21:04:02 < Rob235_> nooo
2016-04-21T21:04:10 < Rob235_> is vdd 3v?
2016-04-21T21:04:13 < TheSeven> yup
2016-04-21T21:04:17 < TheSeven> absolute max 3.6V
2016-04-21T21:04:26 < Rob235_> omg thats why it wasn't working, I thought that was just like a Vin
2016-04-21T21:04:30 < TheSeven> although I've seen it survive 5V for a minute or two
2016-04-21T21:04:49 < Rob235_> when I had battery plugged in 3v was reading 5v and 5v was reading like 0.2 v
2016-04-21T21:05:48 < TheSeven> yes, Vdd is connected to 3V through a jumper
2016-04-21T21:05:50 < Rob235_> so there are no header pins to connect power to or can I hook it up to the 5v pin
2016-04-21T21:06:01 < TheSeven> and 5V is powering that through a regulator
2016-04-21T21:06:14 < TheSeven> so you're supposed to hook that up the ubec the 5V pin
2016-04-21T21:06:52 < Rob235_> well now I know :)
2016-04-21T21:07:04 < Rob235_> sucks I have to wait til next week to continue
2016-04-21T21:07:06 < ReadError> yes dont put a 4s lipo anywhere near your board
2016-04-21T21:07:54 < ReadError> cept a v-divider
2016-04-21T21:08:46 < ReadError> Laurenceb_  "Patrick Kielty hosts this brand new comedy chat show in which special guests hand over their laptops to see what their internet history can reveal about them."
2016-04-21T21:08:48 < Rob235_> ahh I can start on my second project in the meantime
2016-04-21T21:08:51 < ReadError> some UK trash
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2016-04-21T21:26:54 < Laurenceb_> it runs at last https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Hardware.jpg
2016-04-21T21:27:09 < Laurenceb_> tom66 at work
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2016-04-21T21:33:45 < BrainDamage> what's the electrode arrangement for a horse? is it something equivalent to the arm arm leg vector for humans, or do you use the equivalent of the precordial leads?
2016-04-21T21:34:24 < Laurenceb_> probably a mixture of both - there are 10 leads on this system
2016-04-21T21:35:02 < Laurenceb_> the electrode system isnt finished yet, its going to use elasticated velcro straps with carbon loaded silicone rubber contacts
2016-04-21T21:35:41 < BrainDamage> 10 inc the common mode feedback bullshit?
2016-04-21T21:35:52 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-21T21:36:17 < Laurenceb_> but that can be remapped onto any of the other 9
2016-04-21T21:36:48 < BrainDamage> i imagine for fault tollerance, otherwise you get your dynamic crippled if by chance the electrode detaches
2016-04-21T21:36:52 < Laurenceb_> then there is a simple correlator to try to strip out ECG from all the electrodes with a low enough impedance
2016-04-21T21:37:12 < Laurenceb_> then autocorrelation based heart rate estimation
2016-04-21T21:37:57 < BrainDamage> ah weird you do dsp onsite why not leaving it entirely to the remote?
2016-04-21T21:38:01 < Laurenceb_> yeah theres a ~300nA injected AC current at 62.5Hz
2016-04-21T21:38:03 < BrainDamage> to reduce data size?
2016-04-21T21:38:06 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2016-04-21T21:38:28 < Laurenceb_> then filtering to strip out the AC and estimate contact impedance
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2016-04-21T21:43:29 < aandrew> hm, gotta learn how to DMA
2016-04-21T21:43:38 < aandrew> sucking in lots of SPI data and spitting out lots of UART data
2016-04-21T21:44:02 < Laurenceb_> eventually there should be a gui tool to plot heartrate, speed, and gait info for each horse
2016-04-21T21:44:16 < Laurenceb_> it will be written in visual basic and also track the ip address
2016-04-21T21:44:35 < aandrew> the horse has an IP address?
2016-04-21T21:44:43 < aandrew> odd biometric to track. :-)
2016-04-21T21:44:49 < BrainDamage> everything has an ip address
2016-04-21T21:44:53 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
2016-04-21T21:45:32 < BrainDamage> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ if you're in a cancer acquisition mood
2016-04-21T21:46:05 < BrainDamage> and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y2zo0JN2HE
2016-04-21T21:46:17 < Laurenceb_> old :P
2016-04-21T21:46:22 < BrainDamage> all of them are
2016-04-21T21:46:40 < aandrew> lol
2016-04-21T21:46:44 < BrainDamage> ffs, they are even using crt
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2016-04-21T21:46:56 < BrainDamage> crt: stop enabling shitty telefilms
2016-04-21T21:50:04 < mitrax_> crt is gone
2016-04-21T21:50:42 < Steffanx> someone actually reads his scrollback
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2016-04-21T22:42:43 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKN1k3WXFkMmdxWlk/view?usp=docslist_api guise check out that assembly
2016-04-21T22:43:01 < kakimir> have you seen anything like it?
2016-04-21T22:43:35 < kakimir> i basically nops until it returns
2016-04-21T22:44:12 < kakimir> few instructions after that main returns
2016-04-21T22:45:02 < kakimir> it wont make it easy for me
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2016-04-21T23:42:28 < Steffanx> It does no understand your language kakimir
2016-04-21T23:42:35 < Steffanx> such finnish filenames
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2016-04-21T23:56:52 < kakimir> I know dutch basics
2016-04-21T23:59:01 < kakimir> *makes throat noises*
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2016-04-22T00:01:45 < mitrax_> c'mon you can go deeper than that
2016-04-22T00:02:14 < kakimir> no I can't even basics I don't understand what I'm hearing
2016-04-22T00:04:53 < kakimir> it's like french with scandinavian twist to it
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2016-04-22T00:06:57 < kakimir> or other way around
2016-04-22T00:08:05 < zyp> I know a dutch sentence
2016-04-22T00:08:12 < zyp> «let op! drempels»
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2016-04-22T00:10:35 < Ultrasauce> sup
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2016-04-22T00:12:17 < kakimir> what does movs r0, r0 equal to in hexadecimals?
2016-04-22T00:12:36 < zyp> was about to say 90
2016-04-22T00:13:17 < fenugrec> kakimir your ARM ref manual will probably tell you
2016-04-22T00:14:28 < kakimir> where did I butt mine... oh google
2016-04-22T00:25:04 < kakimir> r0 is.. 0 and r0 after that is 0?
2016-04-22T00:27:38 < kakimir> movs is not 0b00000
2016-04-22T00:27:58 < kakimir> just making sure
2016-04-22T00:28:27 < kakimir> if there was area filled with just zero
2016-04-22T00:29:08 < kakimir> no wait
2016-04-22T00:29:26 < kakimir> movs (register) is
2016-04-22T00:29:51 < kakimir> int T2 encoding
2016-04-22T00:29:54 < kakimir> in*
2016-04-22T00:30:19 < kakimir> 0b000 00 00000 Rm Rd
2016-04-22T00:30:35 < kakimir> the area may just zeros
2016-04-22T00:30:42 < kakimir> and debugger related problem
2016-04-22T00:32:27 < kakimir> let's see objdumb bros
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2016-04-22T01:14:07 < englishman> r2com will enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YsSL65quM
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2016-04-22T01:52:51 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls
2016-04-22T01:53:11 < Laurenceb__> who the heck was Prince
2016-04-22T01:53:22  * Laurenceb__ is lucky to not be old enough to know
2016-04-22T01:54:19 < kakimir> some homo
2016-04-22T01:54:24 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-22T01:55:04  * Laurenceb__ is wondering if he should kickstart his rockoon project
2016-04-22T01:55:35 < kakimir> are you ready to fail to scam?
2016-04-22T01:55:48 < Laurenceb__> yup, it could be new zano
2016-04-22T01:57:31 < Laurenceb__> it would require coming up with a workable design tho :P
2016-04-22T01:59:38 < kakimir> you need an ecstatic scam pr-crew ready to lulz hard
2016-04-22T02:03:10 < kakimir> more lulz - more money
2016-04-22T02:04:12 < BrainDamage> since when did dickstart scamming require a workable design
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2016-04-22T02:05:11 < kakimir> it never did
2016-04-22T02:05:24 < kakimir> it requires lulz
2016-04-22T02:06:18 < Laurenceb__> well money might help me devise a workable design
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2016-04-22T02:06:25 < Laurenceb__> but I'm not sure it works that way
2016-04-22T02:06:31 < Ultrasauce> it will help you devise a yacht
2016-04-22T02:06:32 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: you should ask funding from prittish goverment
2016-04-22T02:06:38 < Laurenceb__>  "give me money so maybe I can come up with a design"
2016-04-22T02:07:04 < Laurenceb__> too much paperwork and bullshit getting UK Space agency involved
2016-04-22T02:07:23 < Laurenceb__> they would want to make press packs and other waste of time stuff
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2016-04-22T02:10:29  * Laurenceb__ checks nasaspaceflight EMdrive forum
2016-04-22T02:10:43 < Laurenceb__> 2 years and they still havent managed to make anything O_o
2016-04-22T02:10:56 < Ultrasauce> its almost like the concept is bullshit or something
2016-04-22T02:11:00 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should kickstart an emdrive test
2016-04-22T02:11:13 < Laurenceb__> 5 minutes with an old microwave oven is all it takes
2016-04-22T02:11:17 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: if you want like a million
2016-04-22T02:11:21 < kakimir> or 2
2016-04-22T02:11:27 < kakimir> and you are ready to run
2016-04-22T02:11:30 < kakimir> with money
2016-04-22T02:11:55 < kakimir> Laurenceb__ is
2016-04-22T02:11:57 < saph0> Laurenceb_
2016-04-22T02:12:24 < Laurenceb__> lul not so fast
2016-04-22T02:12:31 < Laurenceb__> I was randomly contemplating
2016-04-22T02:12:57 < saph0> i think the bahamas is the traditional place to flee with a suitcase full of money
2016-04-22T02:13:01 < kakimir> I don't really see Laurenceb__ pulling a scam with straigth face
2016-04-22T02:13:02 < Laurenceb__> heh
2016-04-22T02:13:21 < Laurenceb__> synergize
2016-04-22T02:15:39 < Ultrasauce> game-changer
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2016-04-22T02:16:35 < kakimir> people that do those have some sort of personality disorder or just being cuck for a moneys oppoturnists
2016-04-22T02:17:15 < kakimir> -> straight face scams
2016-04-22T02:17:41 < BrainDamage> they have to be all adjectives
2016-04-22T02:18:14 < Laurenceb__> Those of us with first-hand experience communicating with the anonymous posters there found they're mostly off-topic, unsubstantiated opinions from dubious individuals, some claiming credentials they do not posses. That's a mouth-full for basically a lack of professional communications skills.
2016-04-22T02:18:23 < Laurenceb__> nasaspaceflight has words of wisdom
2016-04-22T02:18:25 < BrainDamage> i also hate when they overemphatize an adjective as if was perfectly explaining everything
2016-04-22T02:18:39 < Laurenceb__> ^ nasaspaceflight on reddit
2016-04-22T02:18:47 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_buzzwords
2016-04-22T02:19:12 < Laurenceb__> thorium might not be BS
2016-04-22T02:19:29 < kakimir> thorium-32 reactor when?
2016-04-22T02:19:33 < BrainDamage> thorium there's workable designs at least on back of the envelope calcs
2016-04-22T02:19:45 < Laurenceb__> thorium war now, gas the uranium
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2016-04-22T02:20:00 < kakimir> why there is no single reactor running using thorium
2016-04-22T02:20:01 < BrainDamage> emdrive still has the little "conservation of momentum" slight problem
2016-04-22T02:20:08 < kakimir> as if it cost that much
2016-04-22T02:20:26 < BrainDamage> a thorium reactor is no fissile by itself
2016-04-22T02:20:40 < kakimir> yes you need something to seed it
2016-04-22T02:20:40 < BrainDamage> it requires a gigantic accelerator to make it beta decay
2016-04-22T02:21:27 < kakimir> BrainDamage: they mix in something very radioactive
2016-04-22T02:21:34 < Laurenceb__> The next demo for our superconducting drive is not going to be open to a general audience so we will not be able to accommodate your desire to view the demo.
2016-04-22T02:21:40 < Laurenceb__> never saw that one coming
2016-04-22T02:21:59 < BrainDamage> kakimir: then you lose the main advantce
2016-04-22T02:22:10 < Laurenceb__> reminds me of Steorn Orbo
2016-04-22T02:22:12 < BrainDamage> with separate alpha source it becomes intrinsically safe
2016-04-22T02:22:32 < Laurenceb__> half of these stupid projects can be exposed in 5 mniutes once you see all the info
2016-04-22T02:23:11 < Laurenceb__> EEStore there is a fudged equation in the patent, Steorn you can see they extract magnetic potential energy on the first page of their pdf report
2016-04-22T02:23:41 < kakimir> how do you alpha source seperatelly in a red hot pressure vessel BrainDamage?
2016-04-22T02:23:50 < Laurenceb__> EMdrive will probably be completely faked using the huge fans/ helicopter thing on the lab ceiling
2016-04-22T02:23:59 < BrainDamage> why would you run it red hot
2016-04-22T02:24:04 < kakimir> hmm
2016-04-22T02:24:11 < kakimir> because molten salt
2016-04-22T02:24:16 < BrainDamage> why
2016-04-22T02:24:30 < Laurenceb__> I can't relieve EEStore conned Lockheed Martin, like WTF
2016-04-22T02:24:36 < BrainDamage> it's not like it doesn't have decent efficiency on its own
2016-04-22T02:24:43 < Laurenceb__> it literally took me 2 minutes to find the fudge in the patent
2016-04-22T02:24:58 < kakimir> BrainDamage: you need a medium
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2016-04-22T02:25:12 < kakimir> to transmit the heat to secondary circuit
2016-04-22T02:25:20 < BrainDamage> kakimir: yes, but you don't need to run it at stupidly high temps
2016-04-22T02:25:28 < BrainDamage> even fucking ammonia works
2016-04-22T02:25:30 < Laurenceb__> lol maybe I should write a blog
2016-04-22T02:25:44 < Laurenceb__> but who cares, its not my money wasted on EEStor
2016-04-22T02:25:59 < BrainDamage> you want high deltaT to achieve high efficiency, but you can absolutely trade off efficiency for safety margin
2016-04-22T02:26:05 < BrainDamage> and it's what being done routinely
2016-04-22T02:26:17  * Laurenceb__ has a patent application underway
2016-04-22T02:26:37 < Laurenceb__> dunno if its worth bothering, I'm mainly doing it just to get my name on a patent
2016-04-22T02:26:39 < Laurenceb__> lol crt
2016-04-22T02:26:45 < kakimir> BrainDamage: what safety?
2016-04-22T02:27:01 < BrainDamage> safety stress limits and process control
2016-04-22T02:27:08 < kakimir> just bury it in sand if it goes
2016-04-22T02:27:18 < kakimir> they always bury it
2016-04-22T02:27:34 < BrainDamage> so for your own projects, you make up the most assburgering specs nobody cares about
2016-04-22T02:27:59 < BrainDamage> for a thing that can pollute a piece of land for a decade, your solution is literally to throw your head in the sand
2016-04-22T02:28:23 < kakimir> how does that cooling melt down pit work?
2016-04-22T02:28:32 < kakimir> vessel under the reactor
2016-04-22T02:29:15 < kakimir> It says that then the stuff falls to bottom of it it would cool down
2016-04-22T02:29:40 < kakimir> it says you are drunk
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2016-04-22T02:31:20 < kakimir> good plan
2016-04-22T02:32:16 < kakimir> it would propably have multiple windows
2016-04-22T02:32:21 < kakimir> with sensors
2016-04-22T02:32:26 < kakimir> and cameras
2016-04-22T02:41:14 < Ultrasauce> something something, concrete cognition?
2016-04-22T02:42:54 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvz1j3h4Xk
2016-04-22T02:45:05 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: what is this stuff?
2016-04-22T02:45:23 < kakimir> british comedy series?
2016-04-22T02:45:45 < Laurenceb__> yes
2016-04-22T02:49:51 < kakimir> it is the most your nation is able to produce?
2016-04-22T02:50:21 < Ultrasauce> it's their second greatest export after teapots
2016-04-22T02:51:06 < Laurenceb__> we also made brasseye
2016-04-22T02:51:35 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
2016-04-22T02:51:44 < kakimir> adult swim is british too?
2016-04-22T02:52:22 < Laurenceb__> nope
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2016-04-22T02:56:50 < kakimir> this is like mockumentary
2016-04-22T02:57:13 < Ultrasauce> what are you talking about? it's a serious scientific exposition
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2016-04-22T03:27:46 < Rob235> If you have multiple strips of ws2812 leds connected by say 20awg stranded wire, how long can I spread them out?
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2016-04-22T03:33:41 < [7]> Rob235: voltage drop across the supply lines is your primary enemy
2016-04-22T03:33:53 < [7]> the data connection should be fine up to about 5m between each pair of LEDs
2016-04-22T03:34:58 < Rob235> I think it will be ok. its 6 sets of 11 leds each separated by 1m of wire
2016-04-22T03:35:40 < [7]> should be fine data-wise
2016-04-22T03:36:12 < [7]> 20awg would be a little tiny for the power though
2016-04-22T03:37:17 < Rob235> what's your amp limit for 20
2016-04-22T03:37:40 < kakimir> can I easily exclude an area of flash to be not used at all?
2016-04-22T03:37:52 < [7]> well let's do some quick calculations
2016-04-22T03:38:13 < [7]> kakimir: generally yes, adjust your linker script appropriately
2016-04-22T03:38:59 < kakimir> hmm I can then continue with area that debugger fails to write
2016-04-22T03:39:00 < [7]> so you have a total of 77 leds, how much current do they draw in total?
2016-04-22T03:39:18 < Rob235> actually I forgot I'm adding a few, so umm one sec
2016-04-22T03:39:44 < Rob235> 84
2016-04-22T03:40:02 < [7]> that would be about 5A IIRC
2016-04-22T03:40:07 < Rob235> yup
2016-04-22T03:40:16 < Rob235> but I'm not going to use full brightness
2016-04-22T03:40:34 < Rob235> probably more like 20-30 mA per led
2016-04-22T03:40:37 < [7]> so the wire needs to be able to withstand 5A, and you can use 2.5A average across the length for voltage drop calculations
2016-04-22T03:40:56 < [7]> what's the total length of that string?
2016-04-22T03:41:08 < [7]> about 7 to 8 meters?
2016-04-22T03:41:17 < Rob235> one sec, I haven't made it yet, wanted to ask first, let me figure it out
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2016-04-22T03:42:04 < Rob235> 5.5m
2016-04-22T03:42:09 < Rob235> oh wait
2016-04-22T03:42:30 < Rob235> 7.3
2016-04-22T03:42:32 < Rob235> yea
2016-04-22T03:43:45 < [7]> so that's about a quarter of an ohm per direction, so half an ohm back and forth
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2016-04-22T03:44:16 < [7]> at 2.5 amps, that's 1.25V drop - will probably still work, but you'll get color shifting at the end
2016-04-22T03:44:27 < [7]> so better drive that at 5.5V or so
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2016-04-22T03:45:38 < Rob235> my ubec can do 5v or 6v, 5v is probably like 5.2/3 which would you use, could 6-6.3 hurt it?
2016-04-22T03:46:11 < [7]> that would be a bit on the high end and cause the LEDs to get rather hot
2016-04-22T03:46:20 < Rob235> ok i'll stick with 5
2016-04-22T03:46:25 < [7]> I'd probably try with those 5.2
2016-04-22T03:46:36 < Rob235> thanks for the help
2016-04-22T03:46:54 < [7]> at 20awg I'd expect the wire that carries most current (i.e. supply end of things) to heat up to about 30°C above ambient
2016-04-22T03:47:02 < [7]> (in free air)
2016-04-22T03:48:02 < [7]> expect the color to drift a bit towards yellow/red towards the end of this thing if you go for full brightness
2016-04-22T03:49:04 < Rob235> is that temperature ok? I could use lower gauge but it would just require more work.  I'd rather do it right though
2016-04-22T03:49:25 < [7]> if it's in free air at room temperature that should be fine
2016-04-22T03:49:45 < [7]> if the wiring is buried somewhere, you should watch the actual temperature of it
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2016-04-22T03:50:03 < [7]> that said, I calculated that at a total of 60mA per LED to be on the safe side, which should be full brightness
2016-04-22T03:50:18 < Rob235> its for a drone, the wires will be inside carbon fiber tubes
2016-04-22T03:51:00 < Rob235> actually I don't think I could fit anything bigger than 20awg
2016-04-22T03:51:11 < Rob235> I'll just monitor it and keep it lower brightness
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2016-04-22T04:11:33 < Rob235> [7]: So I have to rewire it anyway, I'm going to use 18awg for pwr and gnd, I was using 24awg for signal and didn't seem to have any problems, any thoughts?
2016-04-22T04:12:48 < Rob235> I can use 20, it's just that I only have blue wire in 24, I'd have to use red or black if I want to use 20awg
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2016-04-22T04:17:25 < [7]> Rob235: the thinner the better for signal
2016-04-22T04:17:41 < [7]> 24awg is plenty for that
2016-04-22T04:17:48 < Rob235> ok
2016-04-22T04:19:49 < Rob235> could I have two sets of leads coming out of my ubec and split up the led strip into two power wise so that half as much current is flowing through the wire?
2016-04-22T04:28:18 < Rob235> haha damnit, this stupid wire came in 1m strips and its not long enough by so little
2016-04-22T04:28:41 < [7]> you can do that, yes
2016-04-22T04:30:23 < [7]> at 18awg you should be somewhat fine anyway though
2016-04-22T04:30:28 < [7]> about 0.8V drop expected
2016-04-22T04:30:47 < Rob235> ok that makes things easier
2016-04-22T04:30:56 < [7]> so about 4.3-4.4V at the worst case led, shouldn't be affecting colors too badly
2016-04-22T04:32:02 < [7]> (yes, 18awg vs. 20awg drops resistance by about 37%)
2016-04-22T04:33:10 < Rob235> oh actually this length might just work
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2016-04-22T05:16:37 < upgrdman_> heh. i was wondering why my ADC was reading higher than expected at power up. probed the 4.096V capacitor... takes like 75ms to arc up to 4.096V after power up.
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2016-04-22T05:24:45 < jadew> https://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/4fuam3/the_behavior_of_the_ternary_operator_is_sensible/
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2016-04-22T05:36:40 < ReadError> physics was kinda cool
2016-04-22T05:36:45 < ReadError> like I understood it
2016-04-22T05:36:52 < ReadError> just hated all the exams etc
2016-04-22T05:42:52 < ReadError> oh nice
2016-04-22T05:42:56 < ReadError> inside amy schumer is back
2016-04-22T05:43:02 < ReadError> if you like plump whitegirls
2016-04-22T05:53:45 < ReadError> no
2016-04-22T05:55:00 < ReadError> please stop being unfunny, thank you
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2016-04-22T05:55:42 < ReadError> amy schumer?
2016-04-22T05:56:57 < ReadError> oh physics
2016-04-22T05:57:07 < ReadError> after a year of that stuff
2016-04-22T05:57:12 < ReadError> and using it...never
2016-04-22T05:59:59 < ReadError> ok well see
2016-04-22T06:00:01 < ReadError> heres the problem
2016-04-22T06:00:05 < ReadError> they teach you this
2016-04-22T06:00:15 < ReadError> then you realize there are so many more things that have an effect
2016-04-22T06:00:23 < ReadError> everything you learned is useless
2016-04-22T06:05:07 < ReadError> good
2016-04-22T06:06:47 < ReadError> still blaming lack of keil for lack of doing anything with stm32??
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2016-04-22T06:19:37 < ReadError> My number 1 job at work is working to prevent having to do any work
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2016-04-22T07:15:23 < ReadError> http://reveng.sourceforge.net/
2016-04-22T07:15:25 < ReadError> neato
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2016-04-22T07:41:06 < ReadError> 4/20 recovery
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2016-04-22T07:49:44 < brianx> what is the name of the standard lib for linked list with cgg-arm ?
2016-04-22T07:52:06 < brianx> linked lists are very common.  there's gotta be a standard set of functions for it.  i'm just having trouble finding them.
2016-04-22T07:53:46 < dongs> i usually end up copypasting stuff out of ancient glib. before they gayed it up with retarded allocators and shit
2016-04-22T07:54:07 < dongs> there's a nice/simple single/doubled list code
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2016-04-22T07:55:57 < brianx> wow, no wonder i can't find a standard library for it.  ok, sounds like i just write one.  not difficult, but i assumed i was out of date recreating the wheel every time.
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2016-04-22T08:07:52 < brianx> ok, thanks.
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2016-04-22T08:10:35 < brianx> tries?  trees?
2016-04-22T08:14:19 < brianx> i have no need to look up elements by an arbitrary key, i just need a sorted list that can have elements inserted and removed.
2016-04-22T08:14:32 < dongs> you already spent more time chatting about it
2016-04-22T08:14:37 < dongs> told you, go copy slist from old glib
2016-04-22T08:16:00 < jpa-> brianx: you can use C++ if you don't want to recreate lists all the time :)
2016-04-22T08:16:42 < jpa-> https://troydhanson.github.io/uthash/utlist.html   i think i have used this some time also
2016-04-22T08:17:21 < brianx> ahh, "slist" was the key word i was missing.
2016-04-22T08:17:57 < dongs> https://root.cern.ch/doc/master/gslist_8c_source.html
2016-04-22T08:17:59 < brianx> ohsix: inserted in the right place.
2016-04-22T08:18:06 < dongs> i think this is the oldest version without too much aids to copypaste
2016-04-22T08:18:31 < dongs> does everything you need in slist including sorting and shit
2016-04-22T08:22:03 < brianx> ohsix: true.  this won't be that big a list, not too worried about the runtime cost.
2016-04-22T08:22:18 < brianx> dongs: that might be just what i need.
2016-04-22T08:23:10 < qyx> another 2 hours wasted, writing 0xff to display worked, writing anything & 0xfe worked, but writing random data not
2016-04-22T08:23:28 < qyx> apparently some noise or crosstalk :S a ferrite on the display cable solved it
2016-04-22T08:29:35 < jpa-> i used to have a laptop screen that showed garbage if a line happened to have black,white,black,white pixels in succession
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2016-04-22T08:57:06 < ReadError> > be me googling
2016-04-22T08:57:14 < ReadError> > find random karlp blog
2016-04-22T09:14:00 < dongs> > be stoning/cloning
2016-04-22T09:14:01 < dongs> ftfy
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2016-04-22T09:22:40 < ReadError> whats up with all these people dying
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2016-04-22T09:38:30 < lorenzo> I never liked texas instruments micros but I must admit their system design guidelines are really worth reading
2016-04-22T09:39:10 < lorenzo> nice notes on 4 to 6 layer designs, bga escape routing, impedance matching
2016-04-22T09:39:25 < lorenzo> e.g. spma056.pdf
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2016-04-22T09:44:34 < upgrdman__> anyone used UML to visualize firmware?
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2016-04-22T09:46:30 < ReadError> that was the worst fucking class
2016-04-22T09:46:33 < upgrdman> ya i felt that way too
2016-04-22T09:46:33 < ReadError> so boring
2016-04-22T09:46:41 < ReadError> like a huge waste of time
2016-04-22T09:46:45 < upgrdman> but now i feel like it could be helpful for collaborating
2016-04-22T09:47:02 < upgrdman> especially if i can find a tool to take c code and make the diagrams for me
2016-04-22T09:47:11 < upgrdman> like flow charts, etc
2016-04-22T09:48:12 < ReadError> upgrdman some months back i was axing the same thing
2016-04-22T09:48:18 < ReadError> if there was a gen tool
2016-04-22T09:48:22 < upgrdman> k and?
2016-04-22T09:48:25 < upgrdman> any luck
2016-04-22T09:48:26 < ReadError> to see how functions interacted and flowed
2016-04-22T09:48:28 < ReadError> nope...
2016-04-22T09:48:31 < upgrdman> :/
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2016-04-22T09:50:21 < lorenzo> some IDEs make call graphs, but I've never found something complete and worth using
2016-04-22T09:50:48 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-22T09:51:13 < upgrdman> im reminded of shit like a class heirarchy diagram, which you see a lot of API docs...
2016-04-22T09:51:26 < upgrdman> do they really make those by hand instead of automating it
2016-04-22T09:52:07 < lorenzo> dunno I deemed all this stuff as boring both when explained in school and when used at work
2016-04-22T09:52:13 < lorenzo> people do the fuck they want anyway
2016-04-22T09:52:38 < upgrdman> lorenzo, ya my goal is not to specify how things should be
2016-04-22T09:52:45 < upgrdman> my goal is to show how things are
2016-04-22T09:52:54 < upgrdman> e.g. here's some code. visualize it
2016-04-22T09:53:25 < upgrdman> i want to make diagrams AFTER the code is written, tested, etc.
2016-04-22T09:53:34 < upgrdman> to help coworkers who may have to maintain the code
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2016-04-22T09:53:46 < upgrdman> and to help me for when i have to maintain their code
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2016-04-22T10:12:10 < upgrdman> hmm
2016-04-22T10:14:06 < upgrdman> c
2016-04-22T10:14:10 < upgrdman> no objects
2016-04-22T10:14:29 < jpa-> c with clbuttes
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2016-04-22T10:15:04 < lorenzo> crt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVaqQe3V498
2016-04-22T10:17:07 < lorenzo> too late she dead
2016-04-22T10:17:12 < lorenzo> unless you're into that sort of thing
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2016-04-22T10:39:46 < ReadError> ohsix but the models are consistent
2016-04-22T10:39:54 < ReadError> so it has to be the same team doing every model
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2016-04-22T10:56:27 < ReadError> cant help you with the noises
2016-04-22T10:56:44 < ReadError> the models are super detailed though
2016-04-22T10:56:52 < ReadError> more so than any other show ive seen like it
2016-04-22T11:04:23 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-Tb6brvc/0/X3/CA_04221604025689-X3.jpg
2016-04-22T11:04:29 < ReadError> never seen a motor done like this
2016-04-22T11:05:10 < ReadError> that black thing is impossible to get screws out of w/o stripping/cutting
2016-04-22T11:05:25 < ReadError> crt you obvsly dont mess with many motors
2016-04-22T11:06:00 < ReadError> tech12s
2016-04-22T11:06:10 < ReadError> aint gotta spell it out nagger
2016-04-22T11:07:17 < dongs> sup crt
2016-04-22T11:07:34 < dongs> innovation mill churning full speed now that ohsix is out of the picture
2016-04-22T11:08:01 < dongs> maybe you wanna make some linked lists
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2016-04-22T11:08:24 < dongs> heh
2016-04-22T11:08:34 < dongs> i actually used a slist recently for something I forgot
2016-04-22T11:08:36 < ReadError> ohsix e-mtb
2016-04-22T11:08:37 < dongs> workostuff
2016-04-22T11:09:30 < ReadError> ohsix why is dongs pissed off at you
2016-04-22T11:09:36 < ReadError> green stuff is the stator
2016-04-22T11:09:43 < ReadError> coated
2016-04-22T11:10:30 < ReadError> uhh crt
2016-04-22T11:10:37 < ReadError> i have the same shit, its /fakeignore
2016-04-22T11:11:04 < dongs> no, its gone for real this time
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2016-04-22T11:14:23 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=71864
2016-04-22T11:14:33 < ReadError> fuckers went on sale for $45
2016-04-22T11:14:36 < ReadError> grabbed a few more
2016-04-22T11:14:50 < ReadError> paid like 81 a few weeks back ;(
2016-04-22T11:15:02 < dongs> readstoner: its not /fakeignore when its followed byreal /ignore, couldnt figure out how to make it channel-specific, so collateral damage is just *.*
2016-04-22T11:15:34 < ReadError> dongs yea I had to stop using ignore since it makes shit so confusing
2016-04-22T11:15:54 < dongs> its ok, enough people will have ignore on so that it wont cause any confusion
2016-04-22T11:16:23  * mitrax_ grunts
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2016-04-22T11:18:20 < ReadError> i need to find something fun to make with the extra motors
2016-04-22T11:18:34 < ReadError> probably not good enough for a bike
2016-04-22T11:21:23 < mitrax> or a really big electric toothbrush
2016-04-22T11:21:28 < ReadError> nahh got one
2016-04-22T11:21:33 < ReadError> got one of thems too
2016-04-22T11:21:33 < mitrax> for... people with really big teeth
2016-04-22T11:21:50 < ReadError> maybe one of those balance boards
2016-04-22T11:21:52 < ReadError> idk
2016-04-22T11:23:04 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/WJmdfaz84ns?t=288
2016-04-22T11:23:18 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-22T11:23:31 < ReadError> oh im not trying to get it apart
2016-04-22T11:23:41 < ReadError> i was swapping the shaft
2016-04-22T11:24:53 < ReadError> I think that SK3 geared right could be one of those hoverboards
2016-04-22T11:25:02 < ReadError> maybe an encoder for extra fun
2016-04-22T11:25:49 < ReadError> ehh maybe but I would gear it and run a big ass belt
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2016-04-22T11:27:06 < ReadError> i dont trust the bell/shaft to take the load
2016-04-22T11:27:40 < ReadError> right but they are designed to be used that way
2016-04-22T11:27:47 < ReadError> vs something designed to have a prop on it
2016-04-22T11:29:28 < ReadError> lot of god damn poles
2016-04-22T11:31:05 < ReadError> yea but i would gear it anyways so non issue
2016-04-22T11:39:51 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__66486__Multistar_High_Capacity_4S_16000mAh_Multi_Rotor_Lipo_Pack_AR_Warehouse_.html
2016-04-22T11:39:56 < ReadError> hmm p-cheap
2016-04-22T11:44:10 < dongs> i want to buy those :(
2016-04-22T11:44:19 < dongs> they're not in intl warehouse
2016-04-22T11:44:27 < dongs> permanently out of stock
2016-04-22T11:45:35 < Sync> ohsix: just buy loctite.
2016-04-22T11:47:18 < ReadError> dongs in stock here
2016-04-22T11:47:26 < dongs> ReadError: in intl?
2016-04-22T11:47:27 < dongs> link
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2016-04-22T11:47:40 < ReadError> here= usa warehouse
2016-04-22T11:47:45 < dongs> yes i know
2016-04-22T11:47:50 < dongs> but Usa warehouse doenst ship to alaska
2016-04-22T11:47:54 < dongs> or internationally
2016-04-22T11:47:55 < ReadError> lol wtf
2016-04-22T11:47:59 < dongs> so its fucking useless as fuck to me
2016-04-22T11:48:02 < dongs> yeah i know right>???
2016-04-22T11:48:30 < Sync> ohsix: it is anerobic and metal ions help it harden
2016-04-22T11:48:43 < Sync> so shits might not work well if you use it on plastic screws in plastic
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2016-04-22T12:00:25 < Sync> ohsix: black zinc
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2016-04-22T12:50:42 < ReadError> gdamn digikeys order history stuff is beyond useless
2016-04-22T12:50:49 < dongs> yeah you cant evne search it
2016-04-22T12:51:11 < ReadError> I want to re-order parts but theres no parts order history
2016-04-22T12:51:17 < ReadError> so its a real PITA to go back and find them
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2016-04-22T13:09:38 < karlp> ReadError: what were you googling that led you to me?
2016-04-22T13:09:54 < ReadError> karlp the 'unique' identifiers
2016-04-22T13:09:58 < dongs> "how to clone"
2016-04-22T13:10:08 < dongs> haha, why the fuck would a hobbyist ever need that info
2016-04-22T13:10:18 < dongs> "unique identifiers" is for commercial full-scale cloning
2016-04-22T13:11:18 < ReadError> was just reading up on em
2016-04-22T13:11:29 < ReadError> more so curious how they are made
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2016-04-22T14:34:27 < dongs> altidumb has been crashing lately
2016-04-22T14:36:50 < Laurenceb_> sup trolls
2016-04-22T14:37:04 < dongs> innovating
2016-04-22T14:41:27 < Laurenceb_> fapping
2016-04-22T14:44:11 < Laurenceb_> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51T53qsxOPL.jpg
2016-04-22T14:44:21 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if there is a usb class for that
2016-04-22T14:46:12 < dongs> if there is, autism6 knows it
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2016-04-22T16:24:50 < ReadError> websites that make you hit a confirm button after going through the paypal process need to die in a fire
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2016-04-22T16:28:27 < jpa-> ReadError: did you try sending feedback about it?
2016-04-22T16:28:35 < ReadError> nope
2016-04-22T16:28:52 < ReadError> it just makes me angry and i get distracted, forget to hit some dumb last button
2016-04-22T16:29:13 < ReadError> I thought me clicking okay on the paypal site with the total $$$ etc would have been enough
2016-04-22T16:29:44 < jpa-> yeah, seems reasonable; and it could be just a silly mistake on the site
2016-04-22T16:29:55 < ReadError> oh no, its many sites
2016-04-22T16:30:02 < ReadError> mouser fixed it I believe
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2016-04-22T16:30:13 < ReadError> but I fucked up so many orders there
2016-04-22T16:31:40 < dongs> sounds like you were just too fucking stoned
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2016-04-22T16:32:33 < dongs> i've never missed an order for something
2016-04-22T16:32:38 < dongs> because I actually READ WHAT IS ON SCREEN
2016-04-22T16:32:48 < dongs> seems like a pretty basic requirement for computing
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2016-04-22T16:43:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/KiCAD-Pcb-design/
2016-04-22T16:44:07 < aandrew> trolling the freelancer
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2016-04-22T16:44:34 < aandrew> still cant' believe you're picking up jobs from that
2016-04-22T16:44:40 < aandrew> or maybne you're just sharing the stupids
2016-04-22T16:44:46 < aandrew> and you really can get $95/hr for some of this
2016-04-22T16:45:05 < dongs> of course im sharing the stupids
2016-04-22T16:45:09 < dongs> but thats 99.999% of shit there
2016-04-22T16:45:24 < aandrew> do you factor that into your hourly rate when taking a job from there?
2016-04-22T16:45:31 < aandrew> 3h - performing the work
2016-04-22T16:45:35 < aandrew> 15h - finding the work
2016-04-22T16:45:58 < Taxman> hehe
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2016-04-22T18:00:59 < dongs> https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AAMD&ei=LzwaV4iOMoSL0gSQoYTgBw
2016-04-22T18:01:00 < dongs> what did AMD do
2016-04-22T18:05:23 < Laurenceb_> see the news thing, read it
2016-04-22T18:05:44 < dongs> what n ews
2016-04-22T18:05:46 < dongs> tehrs like 20 of them
2016-04-22T18:06:02 < ReadError> strong earnings
2016-04-22T18:06:04 < ReadError> thats all
2016-04-22T18:06:53 < karlp> 36% up is pretty major though
2016-04-22T18:07:11 < karlp> news says it's not just earnings it's rumours: http://www.ibtimes.com/advanced-micro-devices-inc-amd-stock-jumps-over-sony-neo-nintendo-nx-rumors-2358094
2016-04-22T18:08:08 < Laurenceb_> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5db_1461321460
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2016-04-22T18:31:17 < Laurenceb_> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fba_1461278747
2016-04-22T18:31:32 < dongs> Laurenceb_: lol some shithead is spamming me with emdrive really works stuff
2016-04-22T18:31:40 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-22T18:31:59 < dongs> links from : sciencealert, dailymail and popularmechanics
2016-04-22T18:32:11 < dongs> totalyl leegitimate sources
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2016-04-22T18:57:05 < englishman> clonerdrive was in some blogpost recently
2016-04-22T18:57:53 < englishman> from memory it was along the lines of "now nasa is throwing millions behind it"
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2016-04-22T20:49:36 < Laurenceb_> nice, hardfault in fatfs
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2016-04-22T20:51:46 < mitrax> what version?
2016-04-22T20:52:00 < Laurenceb_> very old
2016-04-22T20:52:07 < Laurenceb_> 0.08, I'll upgrade
2016-04-22T20:52:15 < Laurenceb_> I can't see how readir could ever work
2016-04-22T20:52:31 < Laurenceb_> its trying to write to an uninitialised pointer
2016-04-22T20:52:36 < mitrax> readir had a bug in the version i had
2016-04-22T20:52:42 < Laurenceb_> aha
2016-04-22T20:52:48 < mitrax> i told you the other day :p
2016-04-22T20:52:50 < Laurenceb_> is there source somewhere to browse?
2016-04-22T20:53:02 < Laurenceb_> I could see if this bug is fixed
2016-04-22T20:53:32 < Laurenceb_> ah
2016-04-22T20:53:33 < Laurenceb_> http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/en/sfileinfo.html
2016-04-22T20:53:36 < Laurenceb_> nasty
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2016-04-22T20:53:49 < Laurenceb_> its fixed, but eats ram TCHAR   fname[_MAX_LFN + 1]; /* Primary object name */
2016-04-22T20:54:10 < Laurenceb_> my version has TCHAR* thats used uninitialised
2016-04-22T20:54:41 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should write my own fix lol
2016-04-22T20:55:46 < mitrax> Laurenceb_ if you use long filename you're supposed to supply a buffer
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2016-04-22T20:57:00 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: that page doesn't page the struct i have in my version, though i had the latest weird
2016-04-22T20:57:56 < mitrax> oh that changed in 0.12 that was released one week ago
2016-04-22T20:59:49 < Laurenceb_> supply a buffer? how
2016-04-22T21:01:10 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: make lfname points to a buffer and set lfsize to the size of that buffer  before calling f_readdir()
2016-04-22T21:01:43 < Laurenceb_> lul ok I'll just do it manually
2016-04-22T21:01:59 < Laurenceb_> that just seems like an ugly hack be who cares
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2016-04-22T21:04:58 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/pwr.c line 50+
2016-04-22T21:05:11 < ReadError> pls tell me this isnt horse trash
2016-04-22T21:05:16 < ReadError> i hate horses
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2016-04-22T21:05:25 < Laurenceb_> lul
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2016-04-22T21:08:18 < BrainDamage> it's for horse porn performance improvement
2016-04-22T21:09:37 < Laurenceb_> well that works apart from when it doesnt
2016-04-22T21:09:51 < Laurenceb_> and the whole system hangs :S
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2016-04-22T21:21:44 < Steffanx> It's clear what code mr Laurenceb_ copy pasted
2016-04-22T21:21:46 < Steffanx> and what he wrote
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2016-04-22T21:22:15 < Steffanx> fucking hell methlab style code
2016-04-22T21:24:31 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ does someone ever read your code and the comments?
2016-04-22T21:24:40 < Steffanx> Gps.packetflag=0;				//Reset this to zero  <- WHY?
2016-04-22T21:24:48 < Steffanx> Gps_DMA_Process();			//Processes all GPS data
2016-04-22T21:24:50 < Steffanx> WHY?
2016-04-22T21:25:03 < Steffanx> samples[1]++;				//High rate sample arrived
2016-04-22T21:25:09 < Steffanx> such useless comments
2016-04-22T21:26:11 < Laurenceb_> comments are for my use, so I don't care
2016-04-22T21:26:55 < Steffanx> but "reset this to zero" makes no sense. even when you wrote it.
2016-04-22T21:27:12 < Steffanx> I feel sorry for you.
2016-04-22T21:27:20 < mitrax> // empty line, does nothing
2016-04-22T21:27:24 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-22T21:29:34 < Steffanx> I'll stop complaining. Too autistic to change this behavior ;)
2016-04-22T21:29:44 < Laurenceb_> you are indeed
2016-04-22T21:30:08 < Steffanx> i was refering to the one who wrote that.
2016-04-22T21:30:20 < Laurenceb_> you were projecting
2016-04-22T21:30:21 < Steffanx> i know that wasn't clear enough
2016-04-22T21:30:36 < mitrax> c'mon ! be nice to each other
2016-04-22T21:30:40  * mitrax brings milk and cookies
2016-04-22T21:31:19 < Steffanx> Impossible when you see that mitrax
2016-04-22T21:33:29 < Steffanx> Also this channel does not exist for the nice people mitrax. The nice people moved away a long time ago. :P
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2016-04-22T21:34:08 < mitrax> 2 corinthians 2:5-8 NIV
2016-04-22T21:34:20 < mitrax> "If anyone has caused grief, he has not so much grieved me as he has grieved all of you to some extent—not to put it too severely. The punishment inflicted on him by the majority is sufficient.
2016-04-22T21:34:26 < mitrax> Now instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. I urge you, therefore, to reaffirm your love for him."
2016-04-22T21:34:28 < mitrax> see !
2016-04-22T21:35:34 < Steffanx> but he should be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow
2016-04-22T21:35:48 < mitrax> mmh that's right he's not
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2016-04-22T21:36:29 < Steffanx> also ##stm32 is kinda the prequel to hell
2016-04-22T21:36:38 < mitrax> :( i didn't know that
2016-04-22T21:36:53 < Laurenceb_> irc version of 8chan
2016-04-22T21:38:41 < mumptai> i have a nucleo 401 and an old stm32f429Discovery (whos programmer doesn't have the usb-mass-storage device interface need for mded), could the nucleo's programmer be used with the stm32f429? or is it specifiy to the f401?
2016-04-22T21:39:37 < Steffanx> yes, no
2016-04-22T21:41:35 < mumptai> thanks, cool, i'll dig out the soldering iron and jumper wires later ;-D
2016-04-22T21:42:14 < Steffanx> i never tried it, but the nucleo has the swd headers
2016-04-22T21:42:35 < Steffanx> "On-board ST-LINK/V2-1 debugger/programmer with SWD connector"
2016-04-22T21:43:41 < englishman> sometimes you have to change a bunch of solderjumpers, but they are typically real st-dinks with swd so you can use it on any target
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2016-04-22T21:54:54 < ReadError> remove the 2 jumpers
2016-04-22T21:55:00 < ReadError> thats all
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2016-04-22T22:12:31 < lorenzo> yeah there's || nucleo __ st-link usually
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2016-04-22T22:13:10 < lorenzo> although for the price of a genuine st-link v2 from ST I wouldn't bother, that thing is useful, supported in openocd and most IDEs, and can do stm8 too
2016-04-22T22:16:13 < mitrax> indiscutibilmente!
2016-04-22T22:16:36 < lorenzo> ha
2016-04-22T22:17:49 < mitrax> i always wonder why people bother and reuse a demo board as programmer when an ST-link is super cheap
2016-04-22T22:19:12 < mitrax> it's not like if it were priced as high as the PIC ICD3 crap
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2016-04-22T22:27:20 < Steffanx> Why buy a new st-link when there is one on a demo board?
2016-04-22T22:27:50 < lorenzo> mitrax: there's worse, the Atmel OCD thing was ~600$ last time I checked
2016-04-22T22:28:13 < mitrax> lorenzo: seriously? ouch
2016-04-22T22:28:18 < lorenzo> got to make sure blinky is blinking right
2016-04-22T22:28:39 < lorenzo> yah 611 on mouser
2016-04-22T22:28:53 < lorenzo> there's a 50$ one too but I don't think it has debug
2016-04-22T22:28:56 < Steffanx> thats no the jtag ice mkiii not?
2016-04-22T22:29:13 < Steffanx> or are you refering to some cortex thingy?
2016-04-22T22:29:50 < lorenzo> Steffanx: their lower-end jtag ice does AVR and Cortex-M0
2016-04-22T22:29:56 < mitrax> Steffanx: because i don't want to have a messy and exposed demo board with wires hanging and all when the programmer in a neat box costs $18
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2016-04-22T22:33:08 < Steffanx> The atmel ice is only 50$ and does more than that lorenzo
2016-04-22T22:34:18 < lorenzo> hm, I've contacted their support after jtagice discontinuation and they pointed me to ATATMEL-ICE
2016-04-22T22:34:27 < lorenzo> maybe they've upgraded it for M3 too
2016-04-22T22:35:29 < lorenzo> no idea though, since I've abandoned atmel samd like after 10 minutes of plugging in their demo board
2016-04-22T22:35:32 < lorenzo> :D
2016-04-22T22:37:30 < Steffanx> "Supports programming and debugging of all SAM ARM Cortex-M based microcontrollers.".
2016-04-22T22:38:01 < lorenzo> ah nice then, not too expensive either
2016-04-22T22:38:14 < Ultrasauce> i was looking at the debugger nvidia recommends for the tegra
2016-04-22T22:38:17 < Ultrasauce> it's like 5 grand
2016-04-22T22:38:24 < lorenzo> their old one was "Mid-range development tool for Atmel® AVR® and SAM D ARM® Cortex®-M0+ based microcontrollers "
2016-04-22T22:38:26 < Ultrasauce> i was not pleased
2016-04-22T22:39:13 < Steffanx> Ultrasauce:  is the new gargantusauce ?
2016-04-22T22:39:27 < Ultrasauce> the same old one
2016-04-22T22:39:29 < lorenzo> brb new video from the russian hydraulic press channel
2016-04-22T22:39:44 < Steffanx> with a nice nick.
2016-04-22T22:45:02 < Ultrasauce> 8)
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2016-04-22T22:55:45 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXql26sF5uc
2016-04-22T22:55:59 < kakimir> true rc hobbi
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2016-04-22T22:57:07 < Ultrasauce> needs more props
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2016-04-23T00:26:38 < englishman> Ultrasauce: welcome back, we thought you died and went to pic32
2016-04-23T00:27:02 < Ultrasauce> my home server's ssd died and i still havent gotten around to replacing it
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2016-04-23T00:30:23 < Ultrasauce> and i am kind of ridiculously busy with work so that cut into irc trolling time
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2016-04-23T00:52:06 < mitrax> Ultrasauce: died how?
2016-04-23T00:52:47 < Ultrasauce> uh i dunno, the console was full of ata command failures and now the bios won't even enumerate it
2016-04-23T00:53:03 < Ultrasauce> so probably the usual firmware bug shitting all over everything failure mode
2016-04-23T00:53:04 < mitrax> :( may i ask what brand/model?
2016-04-23T00:53:10 < Ultrasauce> some adata piece of shit
2016-04-23T00:53:18 < Ultrasauce> literally the only not-intel ssd i own and it failed
2016-04-23T00:53:40 < mitrax> eheh
2016-04-23T00:55:35 < Ultrasauce> it was literally minutes after i generated a key pair for my irc auth too, so thats gonna be fun to deal with
2016-04-23T00:56:27 < mitrax> ahahaha
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2016-04-23T00:59:34 < mitrax> i've had a drive fail that worked perfectly fine until the very moment where i started moving stuff to it before a reinstall
2016-04-23T01:00:09 < mitrax> i was going to reformat / reinstall on a hdd so i had to move what was on it temporarily... for some reason i moved the stuff and not just copied
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2016-04-23T01:01:21 < mitrax> fortunately i had backups somewhere else, but it's sometimes scary how stuff like that happen at the worst time
2016-04-23T01:01:25 < mitrax> murphy's law i guess
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2016-04-23T01:01:43 < lorenzo> so apparently on msp430 value line.. I2C, SPI, UART all share the same RX interrupt
2016-04-23T01:01:48 < lorenzo> this is going to be fun :>
2016-04-23T01:02:02 < lorenzo> i2c_master.c:(.text+0x118): multiple definition of `__isr_7'
2016-04-23T01:02:02 < lorenzo> uart.o:uart.c:(.text+0x68): first defined here
2016-04-23T01:02:06 < lorenzo> they're fighting for it lol
2016-04-23T01:02:10 < lorenzo> time to make a do_it_all.c library
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2016-04-23T02:24:09 < Rob235> rewiring this drone, pain in the ass
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2016-04-23T03:48:23 < kakimir> https://www.thenerdfilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/thunderbird.jpg mystical pic of the day
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2016-04-23T03:58:55  * Laurenceb__ is busy raging
2016-04-23T03:59:00 < dongs> sup
2016-04-23T03:59:04 < Laurenceb__> muh ads1298 is failing
2016-04-23T03:59:08 < dongs> ah your horseshit
2016-04-23T03:59:10 < Laurenceb__> why did I use this clusterfuck
2016-04-23T03:59:17 < dongs> my condolences
2016-04-23T03:59:23 < Laurenceb__> opamps and stm adc would be 10 times easier
2016-04-23T03:59:54 < Laurenceb__> I think TI just had a copypasta session with their vhdl
2016-04-23T04:00:30 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KVoPogwVts
2016-04-23T04:00:58 < Laurenceb__> it has nice ADCs, but everything else about it is shit
2016-04-23T04:01:24 < kakimir> cuckenheim
2016-04-23T04:02:02 < Laurenceb__>  /pol/ is that way cuckboy ->
2016-04-23T04:02:50 < kakimir> whaddap Laurenceb__
2016-04-23T04:02:56 < Laurenceb__> now... why is my aids1298 generating a sawtooth wave
2016-04-23T04:03:21 < Laurenceb__> and more importantly, how the fuck is it even possible for it to generate a sawtooth on the inputs
2016-04-23T04:05:08 < Laurenceb__> hmm.. this shitty lqfp is so big I could make a drop in stm32 + opamps module with same pinout
2016-04-23T04:05:10 < Laurenceb__> lulz
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2016-04-23T04:11:02 < dongs> just because you suck at computing doesn't mean the part is bad
2016-04-23T04:14:46 < Ultrasauce> sounds like your inputs are connected to other inputs
2016-04-23T04:15:23 < dongs> hey, wassup
2016-04-23T04:15:25 < dongs> long time no blog
2016-04-23T04:15:28 < Ultrasauce> yeah
2016-04-23T04:15:34 < dongs> did they fix the bridge
2016-04-23T04:16:00 < Ultrasauce> my server/nas died and i still havent fixed it
2016-04-23T04:16:15 < Ultrasauce> got around to bringing up irc at work because i needed to troll another foss irc
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2016-04-23T04:17:00 < Ultrasauce> and thus you are graced with my presence once again
2016-04-23T04:17:10 < dongs> all that innovation you missed
2016-04-23T04:17:33 < Ultrasauce> ive been innovating hard on my own, no microcontroller stuff though
2016-04-23T04:19:04 < Ultrasauce> i am in a startup accelerator and it's doing a great job of teaching me to hate business
2016-04-23T04:19:24 < dongs> sounds like you got a kickstarter url youre about to paste
2016-04-23T04:19:39 < Ultrasauce> no dickstarter we're looking for ~real investment~
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2016-04-23T04:20:00 < Ultrasauce> which is its own wonderful brand of clusterfuck of course
2016-04-23T04:22:02 < Ultrasauce> and our website sucks i'm not showing it to you
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2016-04-23T04:37:50 < englishman> pei has investment????? in non potato industries???
2016-04-23T04:37:59 < englishman> or is it a potato accellerator you're in
2016-04-23T04:38:04 < englishman> dongs: you have a reason to buy a tesla now http://www.su-tesla.space/2016/04/gentoo-tesla-t2-edition.html
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2016-04-23T04:38:18 < Ultrasauce> the program is in NB
2016-04-23T04:39:09 < englishman> oh so you're growing weed
2016-04-23T04:39:39 < englishman> fredericton has good beer
2016-04-23T04:40:03 < Ultrasauce> well it's in moncton. went to the pumphouse brewpub and that was a time
2016-04-23T04:40:31 < Ultrasauce> everywhere seems to have good beer now though, craft breweries are a *thing*
2016-04-23T04:41:28 < dongs> englishman: err wat
2016-04-23T04:43:41 < Ultrasauce> ive been wrestling with nvidia's asinine ubuntu distro for the tegra all day and gentoo is looking appealing by comparison
2016-04-23T04:47:58 < dongs> typical lunix problems
2016-04-23T04:48:39 < Ultrasauce> i compiled gstreamer four times today
2016-04-23T04:48:40 < ReadError>  ewbongtu
2016-04-23T04:48:50 < dongs> why d oes lunix even pretend to have media stuff
2016-04-23T04:48:55 < dongs> it has never worked for decades
2016-04-23T04:49:00 < dongs> just install windows, problem solved
2016-04-23T04:49:17 < Ultrasauce> ive worked with directx dude
2016-04-23T04:49:20 < Ultrasauce> i think i'd rather off myself
2016-04-23T04:49:21 < dongs> me2
2016-04-23T04:49:24 < dongs> it works
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2016-04-23T05:19:02 < ReadError> slow blogs
2016-04-23T05:19:34 < dongs> did ohsix leave or something?
2016-04-23T05:21:56 < ReadError> oh
2016-04-23T05:21:59 < ReadError> the LRH is on
2016-04-23T05:22:32 < ReadError> https://www.twitch.tv/l0de2
2016-04-23T05:24:19 < ReadError> huh
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2016-04-23T05:26:03 < ReadError> im not logged in and it works
2016-04-23T05:37:22 < upgrdman> anyone here used google domains?
2016-04-23T05:37:30 < ReadError> upgrdman apps?
2016-04-23T05:37:51 < upgrdman> seem nice. price is decent, dyn dns included, email forwarding,etc
2016-04-23T05:38:05 < upgrdman> no, their .com etc registrar
2016-04-23T05:39:24 < ReadError> hhmm interesting
2016-04-23T05:39:27 < ReadError> nah ive not used that
2016-04-23T05:39:36 < ReadError> but I will warn you of this
2016-04-23T05:39:50 < ReadError> someone here had google literally wipe EVERYTHING associated with them
2016-04-23T05:39:57 < ReadError> like all their play store shit etc
2016-04-23T05:40:11 < upgrdman> lolwut
2016-04-23T05:40:13 < ReadError> ehh not going to say
2016-04-23T05:40:15 < ReadError> but its legit
2016-04-23T05:40:30 < ReadError> I didnt say who
2016-04-23T05:40:42 < ReadError> but anyways
2016-04-23T05:40:56 < ReadError> that would be my worry, too much associated with my account and some crazy shit happening
2016-04-23T05:43:44 < dongs> im still on google apps backk from when they were free
2016-04-23T05:44:05 < ReadError> yup
2016-04-23T05:44:10 < ReadError> dat grandfathered shit
2016-04-23T05:44:23 < ReadError> now the shits like what 10$ an email or some crazy stuff
2016-04-23T05:46:10 < ReadError> lol they have a .soy
2016-04-23T05:46:43 < dongs> but do they have a .clone
2016-04-23T05:46:45 < Ultrasauce> the new tlds are so ridiculous
2016-04-23T05:46:59 < dongs> ya so much useless garbage
2016-04-23T05:47:31 < ReadError> lol no .clone
2016-04-23T05:47:37 < ReadError> plenty of other retarded shit though
2016-04-23T05:48:12 < Ultrasauce> be nice to get clo.ne but doubt the registry is open
2016-04-23T05:49:33 < dongs> so if you had to connect RF to a board in a socket would you route it through a socket or make a u.FL pigtail and jumper it from one palce to another
2016-04-23T05:49:57 < Ultrasauce> how rf
2016-04-23T05:50:32 < dongs> < 2.5ghz
2016-04-23T05:50:38 < ReadError> hahaha
2016-04-23T05:50:46 < ReadError> l0de is layin it down on this chick
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2016-04-23T05:52:17 < Ultrasauce> i guess the number of reconnection cycles might be the deciding factor
2016-04-23T05:52:38 < Ultrasauce> i've definitely hamfisted and flattened a couple of those little hirose connectors
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2016-04-23T05:55:45 < dongs> yeah, its just a one-time insertion basically
2016-04-23T05:55:53 < dongs> abusing (again) M.2 socket for stuff
2016-04-23T05:57:00 < ReadError> omfg
2016-04-23T05:57:06 < ReadError> is l0de calling the fart in my face guy
2016-04-23T05:57:08 < ReadError> OMMFFGGG
2016-04-23T05:57:10 < ReadError> he picked up
2016-04-23T05:57:13 < ReadError> hahahaha
2016-04-23T05:57:30 < ReadError> https://www.twitch.tv/l0de2
2016-04-23T05:57:30 < ReadError> https://www.twitch.tv/l0de2
2016-04-23T05:57:30 < ReadError> https://www.twitch.tv/l0de2
2016-04-23T05:57:33 < ReadError> NOW NOW
2016-04-23T05:57:34 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-23T05:58:04 < Ultrasauce> if you dont mind running stripline everywhere the socket will probably do
2016-04-23T05:59:00 < ReadError> just dont log in?
2016-04-23T05:59:05 < ReadError> he was banned already today
2016-04-23T05:59:10 < ReadError> thats why its '2'
2016-04-23T05:59:48 < ReadError> *shrug*
2016-04-23T05:59:52 < ReadError> dis gon get good
2016-04-23T06:00:02 < Ultrasauce> periscope is baaad
2016-04-23T06:00:23 < Ultrasauce> flash only
2016-04-23T06:01:12 < Ultrasauce> yeah i just mean on desktop
2016-04-23T06:01:43 < Ultrasauce> yes a lunix
2016-04-23T06:02:10 < Ultrasauce> the devices are a lunix too
2016-04-23T06:03:30 < Ultrasauce> damn that's cool
2016-04-23T06:04:08 < Ultrasauce> maybe i can do something remotely useful with the dozen of nrf24 breakouts i have sitting on a shelf
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2016-04-23T06:09:29 < dongs> my cheapscam'd 950pro just showed up
2016-04-23T06:09:35 < dongs> now to decide wat 2 do with it
2016-04-23T06:09:54 < ReadError> oh nice
2016-04-23T06:10:01 < ReadError> how much end up payin?
2016-04-23T06:10:08 < ReadError> they have those PCIe cards that raid0 them
2016-04-23T06:10:14 < ReadError> would be insane
2016-04-23T06:10:20 < dongs> duno it was some special scam, way less retail
2016-04-23T06:10:25 < dongs> was a while ago
2016-04-23T06:10:32 < dongs> some guy bounced it for me tthrough HK
2016-04-23T06:10:39 < ReadError> thats whats up
2016-04-23T06:10:51 < ReadError> what kind of throughput could you get on pcie x16 ?
2016-04-23T06:10:58 < dongs> you dont
2016-04-23T06:11:03 < dongs> these are x4
2016-04-23T06:11:15 < dongs> it doesnt get any faster than that
2016-04-23T06:11:30 < ReadError> ahhh yea x4
2016-04-23T06:12:10 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/IOCrest-PCI-Express-Hardware-Controller-SY-PEX50090/dp/B01DGN0RZ0/
2016-04-23T06:12:37 < dongs> huhuh they're using matte black pcb
2016-04-23T06:13:01 < ReadError> ya
2016-04-23T06:13:06 < ReadError> they are cute little things
2016-04-23T06:13:24 < dongs> err
2016-04-23T06:13:26 < dongs> readstoner, that link
2016-04-23T06:13:32 < dongs> i think it just uses pcie switch IC
2016-04-23T06:13:42 < ReadError> there are some dipswitches
2016-04-23T06:13:47 < ReadError> and some bigger IC on the back
2016-04-23T06:14:01 < dongs> o wait assmedia
2016-04-23T06:14:06 < dongs> fuckin asmedia
2016-04-23T06:15:13 < ReadError> theres a bunch of different ones
2016-04-23T06:15:18 < ReadError> just an idea i thought of
2016-04-23T06:15:30 < ReadError> since most mobo only have 1 slot
2016-04-23T06:15:34 < dongs> it doesnt look like thyey're acutalyl using 4x interface...
2016-04-23T06:15:41 < dongs> none of the higher lanes are connected
2016-04-23T06:15:43 < dongs> except 1x
2016-04-23T06:15:50 < dongs> epic troll
2016-04-23T06:16:49 < dongs> wait no, im stoned
2016-04-23T06:16:54 < dongs> loking at it from wrong side
2016-04-23T06:17:20 < ReadError> http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Triple-M2-Samsung-950-Pro-Z170-PCIe-NVMe-RAID-Tested-Why-So-Snappy
2016-04-23T06:17:24 < ReadError> fuck this mobo has 3 slots
2016-04-23T06:17:27 < dongs> whatever, assmedia = imeediate showstopper
2016-04-23T06:19:13 < ReadError> surely there are different mfg/chipsets, that was just the first i clicked on
2016-04-23T06:19:35 < ReadError> guy in pcper thing, raid0 on 3 of them got up to 3.something GB/s writes
2016-04-23T06:22:50 < dongs> does it even matter
2016-04-23T06:22:54 < dongs> at this point
2016-04-23T06:23:05 < dongs> if I use this shit it'll be for OS drive
2016-04-23T06:23:12 < dongs> so like, read once at boot
2016-04-23T06:23:15 < dongs> and then never touch again
2016-04-23T06:24:14 < ReadError> yea kinda useless
2016-04-23T06:24:30 < ReadError> maybe if you did some crazy multimedia stuff, a scratch drive
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2016-04-23T06:43:52 < dongs> if you did, a server board and 768gb ramdick would probly be cheaper
2016-04-23T06:44:03 < dongs> for way better performance
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2016-04-23T09:08:45 < upgrdman_> wtf?
2016-04-23T09:09:34 < dongs> sup?
2016-04-23T09:12:03 < upgrdman_> Microsoft not using encryption for wireless keyboards?
2016-04-23T09:13:03 < dongs> why would you suddenly care?
2016-04-23T09:13:08 < dongs> you got something to hide?
2016-04-23T09:13:18 < dongs> also, lol @ using wireless keyboards.
2016-04-23T09:13:23 < upgrdman_> Rot13
2016-04-23T09:13:39 < dongs> my microsoft mouse dongle got crushed by falling dell monitor during earthquake :(
2016-04-23T09:13:44 < dongs> doesnt work eihter
2016-04-23T09:13:50 < upgrdman_> i don't
2016-04-23T09:14:14 < dongs> like the top plastic cap thing got trashed and PCB is visible, looks OK visually but must have trashed somethign inside
2016-04-23T09:14:41  * upgrdman_ hugs his das keyboard
2016-04-23T09:14:44 < upgrdman_> usb3 ftw
2016-04-23T09:14:48 < dongs> lol usb3
2016-04-23T09:14:58 < dongs> so you can type at over 9000 cps?
2016-04-23T09:15:02 < upgrdman_> has 2port hub
2016-04-23T09:15:14 < dongs> o right  and that wheel thing.
2016-04-23T09:15:14 < upgrdman_> for hub
2016-04-23T09:15:15 < dongs> knob
2016-04-23T09:15:28 < upgrdman_> ya
2016-04-23T09:15:38 < dongs> did oyu bring that to china or did they ship you back already.
2016-04-23T09:16:04 < upgrdman_> at first it seemed absurd, but the wheel is nice for casually dicking with volume
2016-04-23T09:16:15 < upgrdman_> brought it with me
2016-04-23T09:16:35 < upgrdman_> i leave cn on wednesday
2016-04-23T09:17:26 < upgrdman_> i think i may have annoyed some of my cowrkers with the cherry blue switches
2016-04-23T09:17:26 < upgrdman_> many brough in headphones
2016-04-23T09:17:26 < upgrdman_> lol
2016-04-23T09:17:34 < dongs> haha
2016-04-23T09:19:06 < upgrdman_> ohsix, redo my web/vpn server so i can have it download shit for me, and let it slowly sync to cn overnight
2016-04-23T09:22:05 < upgrdman_> vpn is, but china isnt
2016-04-23T09:22:05 < upgrdman_> so like in cn, i often get like 100kbit
2016-04-23T09:22:40 < upgrdman_> and if everyone is asleep i might get super lucky and briefly hit 3mbit
2016-04-23T09:23:39 < upgrdman_> and when china is being gay, it cant even keep up with irc
2016-04-23T09:24:00 < upgrdman_> not in mainland cn, afaik
2016-04-23T09:24:35 < upgrdman_> but hk is supposedly 1st world ish
2016-04-23T09:24:50 < upgrdman_> even http is slow as fuck
2016-04-23T09:25:01 < upgrdman_> like without encryption
2016-04-23T09:25:20 < upgrdman_> cn to cn is decent
2016-04-23T09:25:20 < upgrdman_> like taobao etc
2016-04-23T09:25:27 < dongs> chinawall'd
2016-04-23T09:25:46 < Thorn> can you ssh from china to abroad?
2016-04-23T09:26:08 < upgrdman_> china is more like an INTRAnet with weak and crippled links to the outside world
2016-04-23T09:26:34 < upgrdman_> thorn, yes
2016-04-23T09:26:40 < upgrdman_> but still slow
2016-04-23T09:27:08 < upgrdman_> i even tried deploy AWS servers in japan, australia, germany... all slow as fuck
2016-04-23T09:27:15 < Thorn> so they don't consider ssh a vpn protocol? or was it iran
2016-04-23T09:27:53 < upgrdman_> thorn, they just fuck with you if you transfer much encrypted stuff
2016-04-23T09:28:02 < upgrdman_> iirc they spoof tcp resets etc
2016-04-23T09:28:09 < dongs> wow weird
2016-04-23T09:28:13 < dongs> im stalking some address in toyko
2016-04-23T09:28:17 < dongs> and if you zoomout from street view
2016-04-23T09:28:22 < dongs> it actually has buildings height-mapped
2016-04-23T09:28:29 < dongs> with textures from teh walls and shit
2016-04-23T09:29:34 < dongs> https://goo.gl/maps/BaUmS2Nz56N2
2016-04-23T09:30:00 < ReadError> damn thats pretty cool
2016-04-23T09:30:08 < dongs> hold shift and you can rotate
2016-04-23T09:30:15 < dongs> shift+drag
2016-04-23T09:30:18 < ReadError> yup just noticed that
2016-04-23T09:30:18 < dongs> and roads are transparent??
2016-04-23T09:30:19 < dongs> or something
2016-04-23T09:30:19 < dongs> weird
2016-04-23T09:30:26 < ReadError> thats the path the car took
2016-04-23T09:30:27 < ReadError> I think
2016-04-23T09:30:30 < ReadError> the lighter part
2016-04-23T09:30:40 < dongs> no theres overpath
2016-04-23T09:30:44 < dongs> a taller road
2016-04-23T09:30:47 < dongs> and you can see one below it
2016-04-23T09:30:57 < dongs> turn around to the thing with (R) helipad or whatever on taller building
2016-04-23T09:31:04 < ReadError> you can click on the lighter road part
2016-04-23T09:31:15 < ReadError> and thats what moves the camera in FPV view
2016-04-23T09:31:55 < dongs> i donno but that looks cool as shit
2016-04-23T09:32:15 < dongs> wacky japan
2016-04-23T09:32:53 < ReadError> https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%83%BB%E3%83%89%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8+%E9%BA%BB%E5%B8%83%E5%8D%81%E7%95%AA%E5%BA%97/@35.890119,139.6536624,343a,20y,198.54h,66.94t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x60188b9fb3e1d7fd:0xddc6c20fbdf41a98!2s1+Chome-5-19+Azabuj%C5%ABban,+Minato-ku,+T%C5%8Dky%C5%8D-to+106-0045,+Japan!3b1!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x228c86927ef1a605?hl=en
2016-04-23T09:32:57 < ReadError> they got it on a bunch of shit
2016-04-23T09:33:08 < ReadError> houses look melted
2016-04-23T09:33:30 < dongs> sure
2016-04-23T09:33:33 < dongs> its probably automatic
2016-04-23T09:36:02 < ReadError> https://goo.gl/maps/xHRzkDWixmQ2
2016-04-23T09:36:07 < ReadError> damn thats awesome
2016-04-23T09:36:44 < dongs> thats not 3d view
2016-04-23T09:36:48 < ReadError> they have structural pieces
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2016-04-23T09:37:43 < dongs> oh lawl
2016-04-23T09:37:46 < dongs> chrome 3d shit crashed
2016-04-23T09:37:53 < dongs> and now i have to reload it for it to show 3d view again
2016-04-23T09:38:32 < dongs> ReadError: yeah that golf place
2016-04-23T09:38:35 < dongs> nice
2016-04-23T09:39:36 < dongs> oh they have same shit in usa
2016-04-23T09:39:40 < dongs> zoomed in to random place in NY
2016-04-23T09:40:06 < dongs> https://goo.gl/maps/LrTxrRRbLSo
2016-04-23T09:40:08 < dongs> llol wtf
2016-04-23T09:40:10 < dongs> er wtc
2016-04-23T09:41:33 < dongs> whats hte north/south pool, did they just leave the building basements and fill them wih water?
2016-04-23T09:43:06 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/XAUn2w.jpg
2016-04-23T09:43:07 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-23T09:43:11 < ReadError> thats pretty sick
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2016-04-23T10:10:19 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/CYlkLXX.gifv
2016-04-23T10:11:11 < ReadError> big ass bitch
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2016-04-23T10:31:07 < upgrdman> in windows 10, how the fuck do i change touchpad speed without changing the mouse speed too
2016-04-23T10:31:21 < upgrdman> right now pad is too slow, if i speed it up, mouse is too fast
2016-04-23T10:34:49 < ReadError> mouse can do in mouse driver
2016-04-23T10:34:59 < ReadError> like logitech has their own little thing for it anyways
2016-04-23T10:35:47 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-23T10:37:39 < upgrdman> random question: what regions use those stupid keyboard layouts with L-shaped enter keys? so glad i brought my keyboard to cn, all these fuckers use those gay L-enter layouts
2016-04-23T10:37:41 < ReadError> because thats when i work
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2016-04-23T10:37:46 < ReadError> internet dont sleep
2016-04-23T10:37:53 < ReadError> big things pop off at night
2016-04-23T10:39:27 < lorenzo> 'morning stmers and pumpers
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2016-04-23T10:43:02 < upgrdman> ##pump32
2016-04-23T10:43:26 < lorenzo> wtf, maxim-ic is making arm chips now
2016-04-23T10:44:18 < Thorn> what happened to pic32mz btw? is anybody using it?
2016-04-23T10:44:35 < dongs> zano
2016-04-23T10:45:17 < Thorn> >Raised Millions on Kickstarter and Left Most Backers with Nothing
2016-04-23T10:45:19 < Thorn> ok
2016-04-23T10:45:24 < lorenzo> Thorn: I've tried their harmony thing for a while but the experience was meh, and there's still no availability notice for any of their software stacks, like it could get discontinued tomorrow
2016-04-23T10:45:44 < dongs> lorenzo: pic32?
2016-04-23T10:45:51 < dongs> why would you need a software stack when you can code in MIPS asm
2016-04-23T10:46:11 < lorenzo> dongs: hah, btw I think they're one of the most "pure" mips left on the market
2016-04-23T10:47:20 < dongs> shruggin furiosulyt
2016-04-23T10:47:28 < dongs> lorenzo: what ARM is in max stuff?
2016-04-23T10:47:45 < dongs> or rather waht max stuff has arm
2016-04-23T10:48:02 < Thorn> max232
2016-04-23T10:48:32 < lorenzo> dongs: cortex m3 in max32600 "wellness processor"
2016-04-23T10:48:43 < lorenzo> looks like it's aimed at medical
2016-04-23T10:48:46 < lorenzo> https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX32600.pdf
2016-04-23T10:49:25 < dongs> dont show to Laurenceb_
2016-04-23T10:49:30 < dongs> he might try to use it for his horseeshit
2016-04-23T10:49:35 < lorenzo> ohsix: for now they haven't, few days ago I had to get a copy of the plib for one of the PIC chips from the 90s and it's sitll on microchip website
2016-04-23T10:49:41 < lorenzo> still
2016-04-23T10:49:59 < lorenzo> they also bothered porting everything to linux with a nice segfaulty installer
2016-04-23T10:50:48 < dongs> only useless packages on that max part
2016-04-23T10:51:55 < lorenzo> dongs: https://para.maximintegrated.com/en/search.mvp?fam=micros&1233=General%20Purpose
2016-04-23T10:52:05 < lorenzo> apparently they have some m4 too
2016-04-23T10:52:18 < lorenzo> TQFP-EP/100
2016-04-23T10:52:18 < lorenzo> WLP/81
2016-04-23T10:52:26 < lorenzo> same I guess
2016-04-23T10:52:27 < dongs> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/datasheet/index.mvp/id/8778/part/MAX32620
2016-04-23T10:52:30 < lorenzo> as the 32620
2016-04-23T10:52:37 < dongs> all medical/fitness trash
2016-04-23T10:54:39 < dongs> Tiny 81-Ball WLP Minimizes Board Space (3.9mm x 3.9 mm WLP, 0.4 mm Pitch)
2016-04-23T10:54:41 < dongs> yaaa
2016-04-23T10:55:18 < dongs> my place finally does HPL (hole pluged land) but its like + 100% cost up
2016-04-23T10:55:34 < dongs> would need a really good reason to waste on such thing
2016-04-23T10:58:43 < lorenzo> MAX32600MBED# € 50,32 / MAXWSNENV € 50,32
2016-04-23T10:58:55 < lorenzo> they have two eval boards on mouser if you really really want to try it
2016-04-23T10:59:38 < lorenzo> lol arduino pinout
2016-04-23T10:59:44 < dongs> duh
2016-04-23T10:59:55 < dongs> at least they hopefully broke out hte rest of the io
2016-04-23T10:59:58 < dongs> from that 200pin BGA
2016-04-23T11:04:59 < upgrdman> dongs, hpl == plugged vias?
2016-04-23T11:05:09 < dongs> yea
2016-04-23T11:05:13 < dongs> so you can put vias under balls
2016-04-23T11:05:15 < dongs> and not have it fail
2016-04-23T11:05:25 < upgrdman> ya k
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2016-04-23T11:09:16 < ReadError> i dont get why some things add to the cost so much
2016-04-23T11:09:23 < ReadError> is it more of a 'because we can'
2016-04-23T11:09:32 < ReadError> or is the yield much lower
2016-04-23T11:09:48 < dongs> to prevent rampant cloning I guess
2016-04-23T11:09:55 < ReadError> like 4 vs 6 layer
2016-04-23T11:09:55 < dongs> if you could get 4L/6L for same price as 2L
2016-04-23T11:10:01 < dongs> you'd be fucking cloning up the ass
2016-04-23T11:10:04 < ReadError> how much can it cost to add the 2 extra layers
2016-04-23T11:10:12 < ReadError> prolly not shit
2016-04-23T11:10:35 < ReadError> also why doesnt china do LPI silk yet
2016-04-23T11:11:11 < ReadError> guess cheaper to just print it vs imaging
2016-04-23T11:14:47 < dongs> http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/michelle-mcnamara-dead-patton-oswalts-wife-was-46-w203911 lol
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2016-04-23T11:15:18 < dongs> huge ARM alert
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2016-04-23T11:18:22 < kha> ReadError: effort wise 4to6 is about same as 2 to 4
2016-04-23T11:18:35 < ReadError> kha yea I figured
2016-04-23T11:19:01 < ReadError> but the cost increase, nuts
2016-04-23T11:19:03 < kha> I think the price is mostly about quantity
2016-04-23T11:19:49 < ReadError> then the quantity is a price issue
2016-04-23T11:19:56 < ReadError> chick/egg
2016-04-23T11:20:33 < kha> Yeah I would guess if there would be like double demand the price would almost get halved
2016-04-23T11:21:06 < kha> The early birds just need to take the hit
2016-04-23T11:22:03 < ReadError> oshpark should get the ball rolling
2016-04-23T11:22:49 < kha> There is just so few amateurs needing more than 4
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2016-04-23T11:23:25 < ReadError> true but they could just exclude copper on those layers
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2016-04-23T11:23:45 < ReadError> and panelize 2/4/6
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2016-04-23T11:24:07 < ReadError> (assuming we lived in a world where fabricators didnt charge so much more for that)
2016-04-23T11:24:25 < dongs> errrrrr wat
2016-04-23T11:24:27 < dongs> get back to cloning
2016-04-23T11:24:27 < ReadError> uses stock?
2016-04-23T11:24:45 < dongs> youre beaking around rihgt about now
2016-04-23T11:25:29 < ReadError> but adding stuff like blind vias
2016-04-23T11:25:38 < ReadError> how much does that really add to the cost of fab
2016-04-23T11:25:42 < ReadError> for the people doing it
2016-04-23T11:25:46 < dongs> a lot
2016-04-23T11:25:56 < dongs> you have separate layers to etch + plug vias
2016-04-23T11:26:03 < dongs> as opposed to making a sandwidch and drilling once
2016-04-23T11:26:14 < dongs> blind vias is definitely a lot more expensive for a reason
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2016-04-23T11:26:21 < ReadError> alright bad example then
2016-04-23T11:28:49 < ReadError> yea but does that time justify the expo huge increase in cost?
2016-04-23T11:28:55 < ReadError> suspect  what kha said is probably right
2016-04-23T11:28:58 < ReadError> volume
2016-04-23T11:29:59 < upgrdman> is the via plug just high temp solder?
2016-04-23T11:30:40 < dongs> no
2016-04-23T11:30:54 < dongs> its longer period in the pool that grows regular vias i guess until it plugs
2016-04-23T11:30:56 < dongs> then polished
2016-04-23T11:31:17 < upgrdman> hmm k
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2016-04-23T11:38:26 < upgrdman> "advanced circuits" ... picture is 100% DIPs
2016-04-23T11:38:37 < dongs> that american company is a joke
2016-04-23T11:38:41 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-23T11:38:41 < dongs> i quoted them somcethingonce
2016-04-23T11:38:44 < dongs> it was liek $400+
2016-04-23T11:38:54 < dongs> then they spammed me with free steak dinner coupouns for liek 5  years
2016-04-23T11:39:21 < dongs> "buy this $800 board from us that costs $8 in china and we'll give you a free $50 coupon to steak outhouse" oir somehtin
2016-04-23T11:46:02 < XTL> They're going to be all the rage in 1965.
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2016-04-23T12:24:10 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Building-circuit-board-design-coding/
2016-04-23T12:26:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Manufacturing-optimized-GSM-module/ good1
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2016-04-23T13:06:02 < Steffanx> ok.
2016-04-23T13:09:42 < ReadError> Steffanx you are german right?
2016-04-23T13:09:48 < Steffanx> dutch.
2016-04-23T13:09:52 < ReadError> oh
2016-04-23T13:10:02 < Steffanx> sync is the german.
2016-04-23T13:10:07 < Steffanx> and that getty guy
2016-04-23T13:11:44 < ReadError> this frontline documentary, they are talking about some german town with only elderly, "every day an elderly person dies"
2016-04-23T13:11:49 < ReadError> then this: http://i.imgur.com/9WP40Y6.png
2016-04-23T13:12:03 < ReadError> not sure if poor translation or what lol
2016-04-23T13:15:10 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-23T13:15:32 < ReadError> sorry sir, it got too calm I was just making sure the internets were not broken
2016-04-23T13:15:37 < dongs> k
2016-04-23T13:16:38 < ReadError> I wish they made more low pincount cheap stm32
2016-04-23T13:16:44 < dongs> they do.
2016-04-23T13:16:49 < dongs> they're just not for you
2016-04-23T13:16:50 < ReadError> sub 20?
2016-04-23T13:17:03 < ReadError> i know they have the TSSOP-20
2016-04-23T13:17:16 < dongs> 3x3mm STM8 is fucking great
2016-04-23T13:17:24 < dongs> and its basically STM32 as far as peripherals go
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2016-04-23T13:23:37 < ReadError> hmm supported by chibios HAL too thats kewl
2016-04-23T13:23:53 < ReadError> much more limited but has what I need
2016-04-23T13:24:58 < dongs> "has what I need"
2016-04-23T13:25:46 < ReadError> spi, serial, pal(i/o)
2016-04-23T13:26:07 < ReadError> just need to fake a button press sequence on powerup
2016-04-23T13:26:12 < dongs> wat
2016-04-23T13:28:34 < dongs> lmfao
2016-04-23T13:30:13 < ReadError> ?
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2016-04-23T13:38:19 < dongs> ReadError: http://www.cloner.pro/
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2016-04-23T13:38:36 < ReadError> oh nice snag
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2016-04-23T13:57:03 < dongs> youre just angry you didnt think of it first
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2016-04-23T13:57:10 < dongs> (in a typical cloner fashion)
2016-04-23T13:59:47 < Steffanx> dongs: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-23T14:00:03 < dongs> o'rly
2016-04-23T14:00:19 < dongs> pretty sure cloning is related to electronics
2016-04-23T14:00:26 < ReadError> i have too many dumb domains :(
2016-04-23T14:00:33 < dongs> i bet
2016-04-23T14:00:45 < ReadError> fuckflight.com
2016-04-23T14:00:48 < dongs> i still havent figured out how to monetize murderfs.com
2016-04-23T14:00:54 < ReadError> waiting on my big payday
2016-04-23T14:01:23 < ReadError> lunixdesktop.com
2016-04-23T14:02:16 < dongs> oh whaaat
2016-04-23T14:02:19 < dongs> some jap snagged lolwat.net
2016-04-23T14:02:27 < dongs> nico used to own that
2016-04-23T14:02:28 < ReadError> oh damn you let that lapse
2016-04-23T14:02:34 < ReadError> i thought he gave it to you
2016-04-23T14:02:39 < dongs> did he? then i fucked up
2016-04-23T14:02:39 < dongs> lol
2016-04-23T14:04:37 < Steffanx> Your getting older dongs. You seem to forget things.
2016-04-23T14:04:45 < Steffanx> *you're
2016-04-23T14:04:48 < dongs> too stoned
2016-04-23T14:04:57 < dongs> thats the real problem
2016-04-23T14:05:13 < dongs> time to go wash dishes
2016-04-23T14:05:18 < Steffanx> Do jappies grow their own weed?
2016-04-23T14:05:44 < Steffanx> What's a lentil and whats a chickpea?
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2016-04-23T14:19:12 < Laurenceb__> get a pro servo with rs485 or whatever
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2016-04-23T14:32:05 < dongs> Laurenceb__: did you see those medical maxim parts
2016-04-23T14:32:35 < Laurenceb__> checking
2016-04-23T14:33:33 < Laurenceb__> erm its all discrete lol
2016-04-23T14:33:49 < Laurenceb__> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/solutions/patient-monitors/index.mvp?CMP=selsoln
2016-04-23T14:34:08 < upgrdman> wtf are palladium pcbs for
2016-04-23T14:34:29 < upgrdman> pg35 of http://www.4pcb.com/media/presentation-how-to-build-pcb.pdf
2016-04-23T14:34:38 < Laurenceb__> blowing government funds
2016-04-23T14:35:21 < dongs> Laurenceb__: https://para.maximintegrated.com/en/search.mvp?fam=micros&1233=General%20Purpose
2016-04-23T14:35:25 < dongs> cortex m3/m4
2016-04-23T14:35:28 < dongs> all for "wearables' trash
2016-04-23T14:35:33 < dongs> with adcs/junk
2016-04-23T14:37:05 < upgrdman> ya but why
2016-04-23T14:37:28 < Laurenceb__> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/digital/microcontrollers/MAX32621.html
2016-04-23T14:37:35 < Laurenceb__> 10 bit adc at 7800sps wut
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2016-04-23T14:38:08 < dongs> yes
2016-04-23T14:39:02 < ReadError> todays awesome verical deal: https://www.verical.com/pd/vishay-tantalum-wet-93026-52ks-226986
2016-04-23T14:39:32 < Laurenceb__> they managed to make something shittier than avr
2016-04-23T14:41:21 < upgrdman> why would anyone use wet ranrs
2016-04-23T14:41:26 < upgrdman> tants
2016-04-23T14:43:04 < ReadError> better be filled with GBL for that price
2016-04-23T14:43:11 < ReadError> redic
2016-04-23T14:43:25 < dongs> 108 for the whole lot right
2016-04-23T14:43:29 < ReadError> nope
2016-04-23T14:43:30 < ReadError> for 1
2016-04-23T14:43:33 < dongs> get the fuck out
2016-04-23T14:43:41 < ReadError> yea same thing I thought
2016-04-23T14:43:44 < ReadError> 108 for all of them
2016-04-23T14:47:30 < dongs> wtf
2016-04-23T14:47:34 < dongs> that price is acutally legit-ish
2016-04-23T14:47:44 < dongs> farnell/avnet/etc have htem all for > $100
2016-04-23T14:47:44 < dongs> lol
2016-04-23T14:48:19 < dongs> hm they're rated up to +200
2016-04-23T14:48:23 < dongs> some of them
2016-04-23T14:48:25 < dongs> and -55
2016-04-23T14:48:27 < dongs> that must be the reason
2016-04-23T14:49:26 < dongs> still 2000h lifetime what the fuck
2016-04-23T14:49:28 < dongs> how useless
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2016-04-23T15:24:39 < upgrdman> no chatz :(
2016-04-23T15:26:25 < ReadError> alright so
2016-04-23T15:27:01 < ReadError> is there a spec or has anyone done something for 'series' communication
2016-04-23T15:27:11 < ReadError> similar to ws2812
2016-04-23T15:27:18 < upgrdman> uart?
2016-04-23T15:27:35 < upgrdman> o nm
2016-04-23T15:27:36 < ReadError> on boot the first assigns itself a number
2016-04-23T15:27:51 < ReadError> then they each increment +1 down the chain
2016-04-23T15:28:42 < ReadError> but then when collecting it kinda does the same thing rather than addressing each
2016-04-23T15:28:57 < ReadError> well I cant use CAN
2016-04-23T15:29:02 < ReadError> because the order is important
2016-04-23T15:29:21 < ReadError> but variable qty
2016-04-23T15:29:30 < ReadError> so hardcoding isnt a good option
2016-04-23T15:29:45 < ReadError> so on boot they need to learn their position
2016-04-23T15:30:19 < ReadError> so trying to think of the best way to do this
2016-04-23T15:30:43 < ReadError> maybe like 1 wire for learning position then something like CAN for collection
2016-04-23T15:31:06 < ReadError> yes
2016-04-23T15:31:11 < ReadError> or like a traceroute
2016-04-23T15:31:16 < ReadError> variable TTL
2016-04-23T15:31:21 < ReadError> or max hops w/e
2016-04-23T15:32:25 < ReadError> i think for actual polling CAN or addressed serial will be fine
2016-04-23T15:32:54 < ReadError> but for them to learn their position/address, im thinking some kind of 1wire
2016-04-23T15:33:35 < ReadError> and they would connect like node1->node2->node3
2016-04-23T15:35:08 < ReadError> then learning node1 tx to the 'right', "<1> sup", if node2 exist replies to left "<2> hi"
2016-04-23T15:35:21 < ReadError> but repeated and sent back each time
2016-04-23T15:35:33 < ReadError> until theres no response to the right
2016-04-23T15:36:00 < ReadError> idk maybe im not wording it right but figured this would have come up before
2016-04-23T15:36:06 < ReadError> yes
2016-04-23T15:36:30 < ReadError> each 'node' would have a 'left'/'right'
2016-04-23T15:36:39 < ReadError> im not saying tx/rx because its bidirectional
2016-04-23T15:37:06 < ReadError> extra links?
2016-04-23T15:37:41 < ReadError> uhhh im lost
2016-04-23T15:39:12 < ReadError> seems much more complicated
2016-04-23T15:39:50 < ReadError> how would 3d work if the order is critical ?
2016-04-23T15:40:01 < ReadError> and aribitrary
2016-04-23T15:40:07 < ReadError> not fixed
2016-04-23T15:41:00 < ReadError> im going to make my own standard then, dutchieNET
2016-04-23T15:41:24 < Steffanx> perfect name.
2016-04-23T15:42:34 < ReadError> theres no consistent or known shape
2016-04-23T15:42:53 < ReadError> its not LEDs either
2016-04-23T15:43:15 < ReadError> its 1D
2016-04-23T15:43:25 < ReadError> there will only ever be something to the left or right
2016-04-23T15:43:57 < ReadError> well there *could* be something above or below but the nodes dont need to know that
2016-04-23T15:46:34 < ReadError> yes dutchieNET will work something like that
2016-04-23T15:50:05 < ReadError> well if they are connected via CAN then I can get the total # of nodes
2016-04-23T15:50:08 < ReadError> on boot
2016-04-23T15:50:19 < ReadError> then its just figuring out the order
2016-04-23T15:50:27 < ReadError> ill have them broadcast part of their unique ID
2016-04-23T15:57:51 < upgrdman> anyone here used potplayer?
2016-04-23T16:01:01 < ReadError> ohsix smart battery network
2016-04-23T16:02:00 < ReadError> no, for monitoring and failure detection
2016-04-23T16:02:09 < ReadError> per cell
2016-04-23T16:02:29 < ReadError> no
2016-04-23T16:02:32 < ReadError> i want to know voltage
2016-04-23T16:02:56 < ReadError> how would an LED tell me that
2016-04-23T16:03:26 < dongs> come back
2016-04-23T16:03:30 < dongs> 50 lines of readerror talking to himself
2016-04-23T16:03:36 < dongs> autism6 cant possibly be awake right
2016-04-23T16:04:12 < dongs> ReadError: WS2812 doesnt assign a number to itself
2016-04-23T16:04:22 < ReadError> nah this will be simple, it will just plug into the balance lead
2016-04-23T16:04:26 < dongs> they just clock out to next until long pulse
2016-04-23T16:04:35 < ReadError> dongs right, but I mean how it removes one
2016-04-23T16:04:40 < ReadError> and passes it to the next
2016-04-23T16:04:41 < dongs> 'removes'?
2016-04-23T16:04:44 < dongs> it doesnt
2016-04-23T16:04:59 < ReadError> ok so not like a ws2812
2016-04-23T16:05:17 < ReadError> im not sure what to compare it to exactly then
2016-04-23T16:05:28 < dongs> 2812 just forwards all clocked in stuff through out pin until clocks stop for > xx ms
2016-04-23T16:07:55 < ReadError> it will go in place of the balance lead
2016-04-23T16:08:13 < dongs> what will?
2016-04-23T16:08:40 < ReadError> dongs the dutchieNET board
2016-04-23T16:08:53 < dongs> About 417 results (0.63 seconds)
2016-04-23T16:08:56 < dongs> no idea?
2016-04-23T16:09:11 < ReadError> yea its still in the kickstarter idea phase
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2016-04-23T16:09:48 < dongs> sounds dumb
2016-04-23T16:09:54 < dongs> use can or use something that isnt dumb
2016-04-23T16:09:55 < ReadError> it is
2016-04-23T16:10:11 < ReadError> dongs I am using CAN
2016-04-23T16:10:20 < ReadError> but they need to know their position
2016-04-23T16:10:21 < dongs> 1wire also supports multiple nodes afaik
2016-04-23T16:10:31 < ReadError> thats the reason for the 1wire
2016-04-23T16:10:42 < ReadError> just to assign/learn position
2016-04-23T16:10:51 < ReadError> then everything else will be over CAN
2016-04-23T16:11:08 < dongs> no
2016-04-23T16:11:20 < dongs> its either a simple enough setup that user can set IDs
2016-04-23T16:11:37 < dongs> or you dont need to know exact position
2016-04-23T16:12:11 < dongs> adding something on top of can just for location is dumb as shit.
2016-04-23T16:12:45 < dongs> its like, lets take this reliable bus that works and add something else on top of it
2016-04-23T16:12:50 < dongs> just to do <dumbthing>
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2016-04-23T16:16:33 < Laurenceb__> only useful thing on that maxim arm is 1wire hardware
2016-04-23T16:18:41 < dongs> isnt it just bitbang
2016-04-23T16:20:38 < Laurenceb__> i thought I saw 1wire hardware
2016-04-23T16:20:42 < Laurenceb__> anyways who cares
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2016-04-23T16:22:05 < kakimir> what are debugging symbols?
2016-04-23T16:22:39 < dongs> something gdb something
2016-04-23T16:22:45 < kakimir> got it
2016-04-23T16:23:19 < kakimir> I know it like... binds machine code and code
2016-04-23T16:23:25 < kakimir> but how
2016-04-23T16:23:32 < kakimir> and do I need to know
2016-04-23T16:24:20 < dongs> you dont. it makes a list of local/global vars/etc and thier memory locations + names, same for functions, same for every line of code where it ends up relative to compiled code.
2016-04-23T16:24:49 < dongs> metadata of all the source-related stuff relative to compiled stuff.
2016-04-23T16:28:02 < Laurenceb__> found your waifu http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f07_1461253334
2016-04-23T16:30:47 < kakimir> my waifu
2016-04-23T16:37:38 < kakimir> doing haram
2016-04-23T16:38:11 < Steffanx> serisou
2016-04-23T16:38:14 < Steffanx> sly.
2016-04-23T16:38:42 < Steffanx> You must be very desperate to enjoy watching a drunk/high/whatever girl doing that.
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2016-04-23T17:46:11 < dongs> What Works - ( Basic 2D graphics, Wi-Fi, AP hotspot, Audio, Microphone, SMS/MMS/Mobile Data(3G, LTE), Call(WIP - microphone not working), GPS, NFC, LED(WIP) MTP )
2016-04-23T17:46:14 < dongs> What Doesn't works - Camera, Sensors, Hardware accelerated video/audio encoding/decoding, Proper 3D graphics, Suspend(deep-sleep), Listing network operator , Everything else.
2016-04-23T17:46:20 < dongs> ^ totally OK state of things for opensauce
2016-04-23T17:52:22 < kakimir> what is that?
2016-04-23T17:52:29 < kakimir> phone?
2016-04-23T17:52:33 < dongs> yes
2016-04-23T17:53:01 < dongs> install lunix, get brick
2016-04-23T17:53:49 < kakimir> I flashed my lpcxpresso boar with lpc1549 and it verified flash without errors
2016-04-23T17:54:15 < kakimir> can flash fail like that it has hole to it
2016-04-23T17:54:44 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/kBYZpzhy
2016-04-23T17:55:04 < kakimir> problems are problems
2016-04-23T17:56:04 < jpa-> how else could it fail?
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2016-04-23T17:57:05 < kakimir> why is this happening to me
2016-04-23T17:57:12 < kakimir> I want ease
2016-04-23T17:57:12 < dongs> lpc
2016-04-23T17:57:38 < kakimir> now I need to build another board to start
2016-04-23T17:57:51 < kakimir> see if problem and then fix old board
2016-04-23T18:03:13 < Thorn> have you tried erasing the flash?
2016-04-23T18:03:28 < kakimir> I should probably
2016-04-23T18:03:36 < kakimir> doesn't it erase it every time flashing?
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2016-04-23T18:08:19 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5Elbvvr1M lol
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2016-04-23T18:12:14 < Steffanx> r2com is that you?
2016-04-23T18:12:54 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb3zuk1qNDk 2nd video (linked from 1st) makes even bigger place
2016-04-23T18:13:30 < Steffanx> is that sketchup?
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2016-04-23T18:13:34 < dongs> yes
2016-04-23T18:14:31 < Steffanx> i do wonder how well the layers attach to each other.
2016-04-23T18:14:59 < dongs> they seem to be heated as well
2016-04-23T18:16:00 < Steffanx> Tornado Resistant Houses .. i have to see that
2016-04-23T18:16:14 < dongs> its resistant cuz it just gets blown away super quick
2016-04-23T18:16:25 < Steffanx> but it's cool for sure.
2016-04-23T18:16:32 < Steffanx> *looks
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2016-04-23T18:18:12 < kakimir> I think I move into sea container house
2016-04-23T18:19:00 < Steffanx> That's actually is a thing here in dutchland kakimir
2016-04-23T18:19:03 < Steffanx> student housing
2016-04-23T18:20:11 < kakimir> I think something like digging it underground
2016-04-23T18:20:20 < kakimir> because heating costs
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2016-04-23T18:27:36 < emeb_mac> I see those out in the desert east of LA
2016-04-23T18:28:17 < emeb_mac> apparently due to the large trade imbalance between US and CN there are huge numbers of empty shipping containers piling up here
2016-04-23T18:28:24 < emeb_mac> so they're way cheap
2016-04-23T18:28:44 < dongs> haha
2016-04-23T18:29:13 < dongs> yeah  i considered making a pool out of one last year. but too stoned
2016-04-23T18:29:24 < Steffanx> metal container in the desert, must be damn hot.
2016-04-23T18:29:33 < kakimir> isn't it same thing in the whole world
2016-04-23T18:29:40 < emeb_mac> Steffanx: that's what I was thinking too.
2016-04-23T18:29:56 < ReadMobl> Bury them
2016-04-23T18:30:00 < emeb_mac> I suppose that they can be insulated with spray-in foam.
2016-04-23T18:30:01 < ReadMobl> Efficiency
2016-04-23T18:30:05 < kakimir> china btw. runs out of fresh water in 15years
2016-04-23T18:30:19 < kakimir> how cool is that
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2016-04-23T18:30:28 < emeb_mac> kakimir: then they start to import it from the rest of the world
2016-04-23T18:30:44 < emeb_mac> or else they start harvesting icebergs
2016-04-23T18:31:23 < kakimir> when you live in place that is basically one big fresh water container and race to collect all fresh water begins
2016-04-23T18:31:31 < emeb_mac> here's another funny one - Saudis are buying up huge tracts of farmland here in US to raise hay for their horses.
2016-04-23T18:31:55 < karlp> different people have different views on the worth of land :)
2016-04-23T18:32:02 < ReadMobl>  mailing it back?
2016-04-23T18:32:06 < emeb_mac> yep
2016-04-23T18:32:14 < ReadMobl> Wow lol
2016-04-23T18:32:35 < emeb_mac> stupid thing is that these hay farms are out in the desert and rely on scarce water,
2016-04-23T18:32:42 < karlp> my family in aus ships lawn grass in refrigerated planes to the emirates.
2016-04-23T18:33:08 < emeb_mac> but since the water rights are protected for politically powerful farming interestes they're guaranteed even for the foreigners.
2016-04-23T18:34:00 < karlp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Desert
2016-04-23T18:34:07 < emeb_mac> karlp: aus ships grass to the mideast and aluminum ore to iceland.
2016-04-23T18:34:17 < karlp> yup.
2016-04-23T18:34:27 < kakimir> I wonder if I start a water empire when I grow up
2016-04-23T18:34:34 < emeb_mac> stupid economy we've got here where it costs less to ship stuff across the world than to be smart about how you use it locally.
2016-04-23T18:35:11 < emeb_mac> that will all change when energy for transportation is too expensive.
2016-04-23T18:35:34 < karlp> we've still got peopl here claiming it's our national _duty_ to smelt the aluminium, because it _has_ to be made, so we should do it with "clean" energy.
2016-04-23T18:35:41 < karlp> gun, head, bang.
2016-04-23T18:35:45 < emeb_mac> lol
2016-04-23T18:36:11 < karlp> gonna get rough when oil goes back up.
2016-04-23T18:36:17 < emeb_mac> no kidding
2016-04-23T18:36:22 < karlp> but not gonna lie, I was really surprised that it came down at all,
2016-04-23T18:36:30 < emeb_mac> once the saudis run out the world is fucked
2016-04-23T18:36:38 < karlp> I thought we'd entered the period where it would never get cheaper.
2016-04-23T18:36:46 < karlp> was totally wrong, and it's still low.
2016-04-23T18:36:49 < karlp> don't realllly understand.
2016-04-23T18:37:02 < emeb_mac> they only dropped the price to keep the US fracking industry from getting too strong
2016-04-23T18:37:07 < karlp> well, once the saudis run out we go back to having the conversation about what land is really worth.
2016-04-23T18:37:23 < karlp> all that shale and "not financially viable extraction" deep sea stuff
2016-04-23T18:37:29 < Steffanx> emeb_mac, excellent. Fracking industry is bad.
2016-04-23T18:37:48 < karlp> don't really understand the hate on fracking honestly.
2016-04-23T18:37:56 < karlp> have people ever seen an opencut coal mine?
2016-04-23T18:38:08 < emeb_mac> Steffanx: that's as may be, but all this does is encourage consumption and push the fracking out a few years.
2016-04-23T18:40:01 < emeb_mac> on the upside, apparently the heavily subsidized solar and wind that's being installed here in the US is now driving the nukes out of business.
2016-04-23T18:40:24 < emeb_mac> can't compete with the cheap renewables
2016-04-23T18:41:43 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gugzhkp_UUQ
2016-04-23T18:44:31 < dongs> https://youtu.be/AY5FsE8oPdk?t=54 relevant to #stm32
2016-04-23T18:47:02 < emeb_mac> pick-n-place
2016-04-23T18:47:34 < kakimir> 90's was very nice in japan?
2016-04-23T18:47:47 < dongs> it doesnt look any different from today really.
2016-04-23T18:47:55 < kakimir> that is what I mean
2016-04-23T18:47:58 < emeb_mac> it's always nice in japan!
2016-04-23T18:48:45 < Thorn> breadboarding synths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaoJaLmZaL4
2016-04-23T18:49:02 < BrainDamage> it probably didn't have as crippled eco in the early 90s tought
2016-04-23T18:50:49 < emeb_mac> Thorn: now you're on the right track
2016-04-23T18:50:56 < emeb_mac> makin' noises.
2016-04-23T18:51:07  * emeb_mac has to code some oscillators today
2016-04-23T18:52:04 < Thorn> he's using logic ICs, square waves only
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2016-04-23T18:53:04 < Thorn> btw his "oscilloscope" seems to react faster to changing waveforms than ds1000e
2016-04-23T18:53:30 < dongs> then ds1000 is fucking awful
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2016-04-23T18:55:27 < Thorn> he's also using an avocado in part 2
2016-04-23T18:55:39 < emeb_mac> silly
2016-04-23T18:55:54 < emeb_mac> not repeatable
2016-04-23T18:56:07 < emeb_mac> spoils after a while, smells bad
2016-04-23T18:56:21 < Thorn> his "music" reminds me of portal 2 so a potato would've been more canon
2016-04-23T18:56:24 < aandrew> hm
2016-04-23T18:56:33 < aandrew> using the hal
2016-04-23T18:57:07 < aandrew> do I want a DMA Irq handler to call HAL_DMA_IRQHandler(x) at the end of a SPI-to-Mem transfer, or do I want the SPI interrupt handler to call HAL_DMA_IrqHandler?
2016-04-23T18:57:36 < aandrew> the examples seem to indicate I want the peripherla interrupt to call HAL_DMA_IrqHandler which doesn't seem right
2016-04-23T18:59:37 < aandrew> the stm32f4xx_hal_spi.c docu says you want dmA interrupt not SPI interrupt
2016-04-23T19:01:52 < Thorn> also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ePsfEkOS0
2016-04-23T19:06:03 < emeb_mac> yup - seen that.
2016-04-23T19:06:08 < emeb_mac> giant 5U system
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2016-04-23T19:19:16 < englishman> emeb_mac: though subsidized, even unsubsidized wind farms are profitable in 5-10y. With the High price of USA electricity.
2016-04-23T19:19:38 < englishman> Even where I am, cheapest electricity in na, wind farms are highly profitable even unsubsidized.
2016-04-23T19:19:59 < emeb_mac> englishman: interesting
2016-04-23T19:20:05 < englishman> Vestas can't make them fast enough.
2016-04-23T19:20:26 < englishman> Even smaller, higher $/W home installs would break even in 10-15 yrs.
2016-04-23T19:20:28 < emeb_mac> won't someone think of the birds?
2016-04-23T19:21:15 < dongs> no.
2016-04-23T19:21:20 < englishman> Oh, how they die is super cool
2016-04-23T19:21:42 < englishman> When they fly into the tip vortices, the pressures are so great their lungs explode
2016-04-23T19:21:43 < dongs> how bad is it gonna be boosting 12V to 15V @ 500mA
2016-04-23T19:21:49 < dongs> is it gonna be inefficient as shit
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2016-04-23T19:23:14 < emeb_mac> shouldn't be too awful if you use a good switcher
2016-04-23T19:23:40 < emeb_mac> can't imagine a boost converter is worse than a buck converter
2016-04-23T19:25:00 < dongs> my OCD is kicking in. still can't figure out how to make rooms in altidumb align precisely on grid
2016-04-23T19:25:09 < dongs> shits 0.02mm off and its raging me
2016-04-23T19:25:48 < emeb_mac> off grid bugs me
2016-04-23T19:25:50 < dongs> because when I drag a room it picks up a random point to snap to (like a pin center, or some line/something center that's off-grid) and amakes entire room offset.
2016-04-23T19:26:20 < emeb_mac> yeah - that happens in so many graphic tools
2016-04-23T19:26:43 < emeb_mac> don't know why the coders can just keep shit on grid when you move it
2016-04-23T19:27:08 < englishman> I like move by xy
2016-04-23T19:27:08 < dongs> fuckkkkkkk
2016-04-23T19:27:19 < dongs> the room 4 corners arent editable either
2016-04-23T19:27:25 < dongs> you can only re-assign from scratch
2016-04-23T19:27:30 < dongs> what the hell
2016-04-23T19:27:42 < dongs> there's even a fucking dialog for editing it
2016-04-23T19:27:53 < dongs> but the x1/y1/x2/etc shit is not editable
2016-04-23T19:34:40 < emeb_mac> altium - so pro
2016-04-23T19:36:22 < Steffanx> or someone is just doing it wrong.
2016-04-23T19:39:02 < emeb_mac> unpossible
2016-04-23T19:42:37 < Steffanx> imlikely indeed
2016-04-23T19:44:41 < Laurenceb__> imgur knows
2016-04-23T19:44:44 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/tCUKZ8d.png
2016-04-23T19:44:49 < Laurenceb__> CUKZ
2016-04-23T19:45:05 < Steffanx> im supposed to know that person?
2016-04-23T19:45:33 < kakimir> cucknheim
2016-04-23T19:46:06 < Laurenceb__> knowyourmeme.com/memes/carl-the-cuck-and-aids-skrillex
2016-04-23T19:47:20 < Steffanx> that's answers it: no you're not.
2016-04-23T19:48:23 < Laurenceb__> we wuz cucks n shit
2016-04-23T19:48:59 < englishman> its like a bunch of people jerking themselves off
2016-04-23T19:49:03 < englishman> In a circle
2016-04-23T19:49:07 < englishman> A jerkcircle
2016-04-23T19:49:21 < emeb_mac> jerclecirk
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2016-04-23T20:10:12 < Thorn> nicely priced, these modules https://www.modulargrid.net/
2016-04-23T20:10:39 < Thorn> https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-dpo
2016-04-23T20:12:19 < Thorn> https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-rene wtf is this and why is it $500
2016-04-23T20:21:03 < Thorn> https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mutable-instruments-peaks >Cortex-M3 ARM processor
2016-04-23T20:21:14 < kakimir> I wonder why there is no hardware or rom code for string handling in mcus
2016-04-23T20:21:40 < Thorn> why would you need hardware for that
2016-04-23T20:21:46 < kakimir> or rom code
2016-04-23T20:22:31 < kakimir> or for like all the standart stuff
2016-04-23T20:34:10 < Thorn> https://github.com/pichenettes/stmlib lol another stm32 library
2016-04-23T20:34:27 < Thorn> from the guy who makes eurorack modules
2016-04-23T20:35:28 < kakimir> very constructive
2016-04-23T20:42:45 < Steffanx> its not really an stm32 lib Thorn
2016-04-23T20:43:24 < Steffanx> just some stuff around the peripheral libs
2016-04-23T20:43:25 < kakimir> is some stm32 project skeleton?
2016-04-23T20:44:02 < Laurenceb__> libcuck
2016-04-23T20:44:25 < karlp> kakimir: tiva parts have a bunch of rom library code
2016-04-23T20:45:16 < kakimir> how do I write all struct type parts in one curly braces with variable names?
2016-04-23T20:46:01 < kakimir> like this variable = (CuckType){pee = 0, poo = 1}; ?
2016-04-23T20:46:20 < Thorn> yeah he actually has those libs in https://github.com/pichenettes/stmlib/tree/master/third_party/STM
2016-04-23T20:46:31 < Thorn> is it legal? lol
2016-04-23T20:47:06 < kakimir> karlp: propably as they run full size systems in them
2016-04-23T20:47:21 < kakimir> helps to reduce binary quite a lot
2016-04-23T20:48:02 < Thorn> kakimir: http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/compound_literal (c99)
2016-04-23T20:49:24 < kakimir> okay I need that point there
2016-04-23T20:49:26 < kakimir> .
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2016-04-23T20:55:29 < kakimir> what is the best way to create exponents of 10 in M3
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2016-04-23T21:11:00 < Thorn> ok finally found some real world dsp projects to study
2016-04-23T21:13:17 < BrainDamage> you could write an app that attempted to do chroma and gamma compensated skin tone detection for contact pictures and automatically deleted everyone below a certain treshold
2016-04-23T21:18:59 < kakimir> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18581560/any-way-faster-than-pow-to-compute-an-integer-power-of-10-in-c I feel kinda stupid now
2016-04-23T21:21:51 < Laurenceb__> lul BrainDamage
2016-04-23T21:22:24 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: well 10 != 2
2016-04-23T21:22:34 < Laurenceb__> so its no utterly stupid
2016-04-23T21:22:37 < Laurenceb__> *not
2016-04-23T21:24:07 < kakimir> hah that list thing is a killer
2016-04-23T21:24:28 < kakimir> and yet they might not even have those rom coded
2016-04-23T21:24:47 < kakimir> well it's one function though
2016-04-23T21:24:54 < kakimir> no big deal
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2016-04-23T21:36:18 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/fTZWPD0r how do you think
2016-04-23T21:36:44 < kakimir> about this decimalify thing
2016-04-23T21:37:05 < kakimir> I think I need to name it get10BaseDecimal
2016-04-23T21:37:20 < kakimir> sounds ethernetish
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2016-04-23T21:43:14 < kakimir> *base10
2016-04-23T21:44:02 < kakimir> should it be called a decimal or a digit?
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2016-04-23T21:56:07 < Rob235> good my replacement board came in and my motor control is working
2016-04-23T21:58:10 < Rob235> if you continue to send a 1ms arming signal to an ESC for 2 seconds nothings going to happen right? you need a longer pulse to start them spinning
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2016-04-23T22:10:24 < aandrew> dongs: I haven't worked iwth rooms on alitum yet
2016-04-23T22:10:46 < aandrew> I would like to learn how to properly do subcircuits (like design/lay out one channel of a 16 channel system, then the rest just copies
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2016-04-23T22:14:56 < kakimir> is there a way to rename all the appereances of a variable at once in eclipse
2016-04-23T22:15:18 < kakimir> just when renaming press some button and magic replacement happends
2016-04-23T22:15:34 < Rob235> how do you disarm an esc? just send a signal lower than 1ms?
2016-04-23T22:15:47 < Rob235> isn't there a find and replace option?
2016-04-23T22:16:05 < Rob235> type old name and new name, and hit replace all
2016-04-23T22:16:41 < Rob235> or do you mean in multiple files
2016-04-23T22:19:24 < kakimir> send nothing
2016-04-23T22:19:30 < kakimir> I think
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2016-04-23T22:22:15 < Thorn> so why do these synth modules operate at 44kHz and users don't complain while audiophiles wouldn't touch anything less than 24/192?
2016-04-23T22:26:13 < jpa-> because synthetic sound is synthetic?
2016-04-23T22:28:54 < Thorn> many of them process sound / have audio inputs, it's not just synthesis
2016-04-23T22:30:11 < Rob235> I basically just need to write the pid controller and add some functions to each library to get everything to work together and this thing should be flyable
2016-04-23T22:37:36 < emeb> Thorn: because 24/192 is an artificially high standard.
2016-04-23T22:37:58 < emeb> 44/16 is fine for most everything.
2016-04-23T22:38:29 < emeb> also, synth components are generally not operating over particularly wide dynamic range.
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2016-04-23T22:39:18 < emeb> oscillators are usually running near 0dBfs, so you can get away with lower resolution because the dynamics are applied later in the processing chain.
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2016-04-23T22:47:59 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/rygorous/status/707000393176207360 --fdont-delete-my-filter-bro
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2016-04-23T22:57:51 < emeb> seems like a minor issue.
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2016-04-23T22:59:15 < emeb> that relies on all the filter state remaining in-range so the only issue is temporary sub-sums of the final sum.
2016-04-23T22:59:58 < emeb> if you've got temporary overflows it's usually not a big deal in today's architectures to just promote to a larger type.
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2016-04-23T23:02:31 < emeb> PaulFertser: ping
2016-04-23T23:06:41 < emeb> PaulFertser: nevermind - answered my own question.
2016-04-23T23:11:22 < PaulFertser> emeb: :)
2016-04-23T23:13:00 < emeb> PaulFertser: was missing "exit" from commands, so flashing wasn't completing. :P
2016-04-23T23:13:11 < emeb> RTFM
2016-04-23T23:13:40 < PaulFertser> emeb: that was an incompatible change to "program" but it was necessary to avoid further confusion. I hope it's not too much pain.
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2016-04-23T23:14:49 < emeb> PaulFertser: aha - so this behavior is new. Wondered why things seemed different. Not a problem. I can update my makefiles as I come across them.
2016-04-23T23:19:20 < PaulFertser> emeb: the idea was to make program useful in a telnet session. We were considering different arguments and usecases and the end result was the decision to change the default behaviour for a "good cause".
2016-04-23T23:20:09 < emeb> so "program" command wouldn't kick you out by default
2016-04-23T23:21:43 < kakimir> chip has EEPROM in addition to flash
2016-04-23T23:21:50 < kakimir> what to use it for
2016-04-23T23:21:51 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-23T23:21:57 < kakimir> settings and shiet?
2016-04-23T23:22:01 < emeb> yes
2016-04-23T23:22:05 < emeb> things that change often
2016-04-23T23:22:13 < kakimir> why?
2016-04-23T23:22:22 < emeb> more often than you'd want to alter the flash - flash endurance is less than eeprom
2016-04-23T23:22:29 < kakimir> okay
2016-04-23T23:22:30 < kakimir> so
2016-04-23T23:22:38 < PaulFertser> emeb: yeah
2016-04-23T23:22:39 < emeb> also, eeprom can usually be reprogrammed at a byte level
2016-04-23T23:22:39 < kakimir> EEPROM can be written like constantly?
2016-04-23T23:22:49 < emeb> and flash you need to do block erase.
2016-04-23T23:23:08 < emeb> flash endurance is usually like 1K - 10K writes
2016-04-23T23:23:16 < emeb> eeprom is usually > 100k
2016-04-23T23:24:03 < kakimir> I wonder how many times you do cycle for flash when you debug something from scratch
2016-04-23T23:24:14 < emeb> good question.
2016-04-23T23:24:25 < kakimir> and does it ever come an issue
2016-04-23T23:24:28 < emeb> I've never run one into the ground yet
2016-04-23T23:24:36 < kakimir> if you debug something for like.. years
2016-04-23T23:24:43 < emeb> and I've used parts that were rated for only 1k
2016-04-23T23:25:20 < emeb> well, considering a typical dev cycle - I sometimes may reflash a part dozens of times / day.
2016-04-23T23:25:26 < kakimir> that is not at all uncommon in industry to have debugging sessions for single board running for years
2016-04-23T23:25:34 < emeb> for 1k that's just a few months if it was everyday
2016-04-23T23:26:10 < emeb> but bear in mind that 1k is what the mfgs worst case is.
2016-04-23T23:26:33 < kakimir> maybe better to rotate it out to field time to time and have some fresh board
2016-04-23T23:26:38 < emeb> IE - running the parts at high temp, bad voltage, etc.
2016-04-23T23:26:56 < kakimir> 125 centigrade
2016-04-23T23:27:10 < emeb> or, just retire your devboard and get a new one.
2016-04-23T23:27:16 < kakimir> ye
2016-04-23T23:27:22 < emeb> not a huge deal for a company with resources.
2016-04-23T23:32:05 < kakimir> in company with resources it probably would require more resources to recycle board to field than just throw it in corner and order new one
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2016-04-24T00:39:18 < aandrew> wtf
2016-04-24T00:39:55 < aandrew> SPI_NSS_HARD_OUTPUT just holds the pin low
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2016-04-24T00:59:41 < TheSeven> nSS is negated slave select
2016-04-24T01:11:49 < lorenzo> is there a way to tell cubemx to generate init functions in a separate file?
2016-04-24T01:18:48 < lorenzo> instead of vomiting everything in main.c
2016-04-24T01:29:12 < Rob235> is baseflight's PID good?
2016-04-24T01:29:41 < kakimir> when size_t type length parameter is passed with string to function that uses the string.. does size_t type parameter usually count in terminating character or not?
2016-04-24T01:30:51 < Rob235> pidMultiWii
2016-04-24T01:31:53 < Rob235> I'm sure it's fine, I don't know what kind of answer I was expecting
2016-04-24T01:34:09 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/EzdPhzL
2016-04-24T01:35:48 < lorenzo> ohsix: yeah, I'm making a "linked folder" in eclipse
2016-04-24T01:35:51 < lorenzo> and adding stuff in there
2016-04-24T01:36:07 < lorenzo> modifying the init functions to pass the handlers by reference so that the scope isn't altered
2016-04-24T01:49:06 < aandrew> hm, odd
2016-04-24T01:49:12 < aandrew> so the SPI and DMA seem connected
2016-04-24T01:50:12 < aandrew> I issue a HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive_DMA() and I get a stream interupt where I call the DMA_IRQHandler() and I eventually get my TransmitReceiveCpltCallback()
2016-04-24T01:50:31 < aandrew> the data doesn't transfer though, and I'm definitely not getting a DMA error (that callback is never called)
2016-04-24T01:50:53 < lorenzo> yah got it to work
2016-04-24T01:51:11 < lorenzo>   MX_I2C1_Init(&hi2c1); which calls a MX_I2C1_Init(I2C_HandleTypeDef *hi2c1);
2016-04-24T01:51:19 < lorenzo> and replace all "." struct access with -> of course
2016-04-24T01:51:19 < lorenzo> :D
2016-04-24T01:55:39 < aandrew> http://pastebin.com/FWzP3v1M
2016-04-24T01:55:54 < aandrew> seems pretty fucking straightforward now that I got all the pieces arranged
2016-04-24T01:56:13 < aandrew> and the code flow is as expected, but the fucking transfer doesn't seem to occur, although there's no error and I get a completion callback
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2016-04-24T02:27:28 < Laurenceb__> wtf my ads1298 is working
2016-04-24T02:27:40 < Laurenceb__> http://www.ti.com/lit/an/sbaa196a/sbaa196a.pdf
2016-04-24T02:27:43 < emeb> even a stopped clock is right sometimes
2016-04-24T02:27:46 < Laurenceb__> figure 9 wtf
2016-04-24T02:27:55 < Laurenceb__> behaviour matches that
2016-04-24T02:28:04 < Laurenceb__> their main datasheet looks like a lie
2016-04-24T02:28:17 < Laurenceb__> they way +-10M ohm pullups during AC lead off mode
2016-04-24T02:28:22 < Laurenceb__> *say
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2016-04-24T03:24:49 < Getty> stay there is the best
2016-04-24T03:24:55 < Getty> "stay there, come here, stay there, come here"
2016-04-24T03:28:17 < aandrew> hm, NDTR is still at the value that I wanted to transfer; it's not actually transferring but it's saying "transfer complete" and there's no DMA or SPI error
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2016-04-24T03:34:32 < Rob235> dongs
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2016-04-24T03:50:00 < Laurenceb__> oh wtf
2016-04-24T03:50:44 < Laurenceb__> aids1298 has capacitors in series with the lead-off pull up/down resistors in some modes
2016-04-24T03:50:47 < Laurenceb__> full rage
2016-04-24T03:52:52 < Laurenceb__> like wtf happens when the inputs drift and saturate :(
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2016-04-24T03:56:05 < PeterM> Laurenceb__, caps leak, unless you either have super low leakage C0G/NP0 or film caps, you've probably got maybe 100Meg accrossthat cap anyway
2016-04-24T03:56:26 < Laurenceb__> I do have special NP0 caps
2016-04-24T03:56:31 < Laurenceb__> thought of that already
2016-04-24T03:57:02 < Laurenceb__> well - low piezo ones with "flexible" termination
2016-04-24T03:57:42 < Laurenceb__> if the 10M resistors were pulled up/down at the test frequency itd work nicely
2016-04-24T03:57:45 < Laurenceb__> so stupid
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2016-04-24T06:38:02 < lorenzo> ohsix: if you're curious how it turned out https://github.com/lcafaro/stm32-lsm303
2016-04-24T06:51:52 < dongs> Rob235: sup
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2016-04-24T06:52:21 < dongs> lorenzo: spacing???????????????????????
2016-04-24T06:52:26 < Rob235> did you work on the multiwii baseflight?
2016-04-24T06:52:29 < dongs> do you think while() loop on a single line makes it faster?
2016-04-24T06:52:32 < dongs> Rob235: duh.
2016-04-24T06:52:36 < dongs> i wrote it.
2016-04-24T06:52:39 < Rob235> all of it?
2016-04-24T06:52:48 < Rob235> interesting
2016-04-24T06:52:51 < dongs> all the stm32 shit, and cut most of the trash out of multiwii
2016-04-24T06:53:17 < Rob235> then can I ask you a few questions about the pid controller at some point?
2016-04-24T06:53:19 < lorenzo> dongs: no ofc but I just wanted the dereference thing to be consistend with the rest of the code (it's still taking up 1 byte so who cares)
2016-04-24T06:53:39 < Rob235> well I guess thats multiwii
2016-04-24T06:53:50 < dongs> Rob235: probably, but PID shit in multiwii is just awfully written with hacks for 8bit trash
2016-04-24T06:53:55 < dongs> you're much better off using something proper
2016-04-24T06:54:06 < Rob235> oh hmm, I just spent the last few hours wasting my time then hah
2016-04-24T06:54:13 < dongs> ya definitely
2016-04-24T06:54:33 < Rob235> its the only main part I have left for the drone, everything else just needs some polishing
2016-04-24T06:56:21 < Rob235> I'm in the middle of rewiring the whole thing too, looks a lot cleaner now
2016-04-24T06:57:06 < Rob235> madgewick or whatever
2016-04-24T06:57:34 < Rob235> I just need a basic pid controller
2016-04-24T06:57:49 < Rob235> oh wait
2016-04-24T06:58:23 < Rob235> I didn't think this through, I need to stop smoking so much
2016-04-24T06:59:27 < Rob235> I have to figure out quaternions too, I was thinking about euler angles this whole time
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2016-04-24T07:11:35 < Rob235> thanks
2016-04-24T07:12:29 < Rob235> is it normal to split up the acc/mag into proportional and gyro into integral?
2016-04-24T07:13:07 < Rob235> I havent researched pid enough but it's nice seeing an example that uses quats
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2016-04-24T07:29:10 < Rob235> well I already have a fused quaternion, its just using that in a pid that I have to figure out
2016-04-24T07:43:42 < dongs> stoned quaternion
2016-04-24T07:44:46 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/qeMFLMl.jpg
2016-04-24T07:44:54 < Rob235> I'm gonna try to finish up another library or two and save the quaternions for tomorrow
2016-04-24T07:47:41 < Rob235> rewiring the drone gave me the opportunity to fix the dumb mistake of using two different types of led strips, saves a lot of wiring and I don't have to use this beast: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1429
2016-04-24T07:51:17 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/RYNTrhXSI5s  (won't show anything like that, just colors for orientation)
2016-04-24T07:51:40 < Rob235> that's the old wiring
2016-04-24T07:57:38 < Rob235> stm32f4 disco
2016-04-24T07:57:47 < Rob235> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BLJexrUpQk
2016-04-24T07:57:51 < Rob235> damn someone beat me to it :P
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2016-04-24T08:00:37 < Rob235> yea, using dma for a bunch of stuff
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2016-04-24T11:36:48 < dongs> We’ve updated the File Explorer icon to align with the monochrome design language used for the icons across Windows 10. However, you will notice a little bit of color still present in the icon. The design team was a bit hesitant to completely let go of the yellow because it has become such a familiar part of the File Explorer branding.
2016-04-24T11:36:54 < dongs> oh fuck right off
2016-04-24T11:38:12 < PeterM> http://az648995.vo.msecnd.net/win/2016/04/new-file-explorer-icon.png
2016-04-24T11:38:27 < dongs> ...
2016-04-24T11:39:14 < PeterM> i dont think either icon is better than the other, i think they should spend more time on more important shit
2016-04-24T11:41:54 < dongs> stop fucking wiht shit that works would be agood start
2016-04-24T11:42:10 < PeterM> ya
2016-04-24T11:43:36 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/N5v8TXT.jpg
2016-04-24T11:43:50 < PeterM> lol
2016-04-24T11:44:13 < PeterM> iirc author is phil dick
2016-04-24T11:44:27 < dongs> right
2016-04-24T11:44:45 < dongs> title is cutoff and just last name for the author field
2016-04-24T11:44:46 < PeterM> but yes, label is 10/10
2016-04-24T11:44:52 < dongs> modern database storage
2016-04-24T11:45:00 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-24T11:54:02 < mitrax> i wonder if winfs is still being worked on at MS or if they completely gave up on that
2016-04-24T11:55:03 < ReadError> what was supposed to be special about winfs?
2016-04-24T11:55:11 < PeterM> probably gave up on it, instead of turning into murderers
2016-04-24T11:55:37 < dongs> no idea, it looked dumb
2016-04-24T11:55:41 < dongs> NTFS works fine
2016-04-24T11:56:06 < mitrax> ReadError: db based storage
2016-04-24T12:00:27 < dongs> NTFS has ADS or wahtever
2016-04-24T12:00:30 < dongs> no need for a db
2016-04-24T12:00:44 < dongs> they fucked up visualstudio 2014+ and made it require installation of SQL fUcking SerVer
2016-04-24T12:00:57 < dongs> the fuck doyou need a fucking SQL server for fucking function names completion
2016-04-24T12:01:07 < jpa-> yeah, could have just used sqlite
2016-04-24T12:01:09 < dongs> they could have just used fuckign SQLITE if they REALLY insisted on making it database-based shit
2016-04-24T12:01:12 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-24T12:01:13 < mitrax> seriously? fuck
2016-04-24T12:01:29 < dongs> yeah it installs some local copy of Sql Server Express or someshti
2016-04-24T12:01:36 < dongs> whatever the fuck freetard version
2016-04-24T12:01:42 < dongs> and its used just for intellisence databse
2016-04-24T12:02:33 < mitrax> i'm still using 2008, 2010 was slow as shit, haven't tried the next versions
2016-04-24T12:02:50 < dongs> yeah, the change 2010->above was retarded
2016-04-24T12:03:04 < dongs> i ended up installing 2015 for work stuff , first thing i did was turn off that retarded black on black colorsceheme
2016-04-24T12:03:12 < dongs> fucking hipsters making everything black and flat
2016-04-24T12:03:16 < dongs> cnat get any fucking work done with that shit
2016-04-24T12:03:17 < mitrax> ahahah
2016-04-24T12:07:23 < mitrax> i like white text on dark blue for irc / code, easier on the eyes than black on white
2016-04-24T12:11:17 < PeterM> nah i like orange text of black, makes me thing of my old VT110
2016-04-24T12:11:29 < mitrax> amber!
2016-04-24T12:11:30 < dongs> heh
2016-04-24T12:11:37 < PeterM> >not serious
2016-04-24T12:12:34 < ReadError> did they finally realize that all capital text menus was a bad idea?
2016-04-24T12:12:34 < mitrax> mmh... funny you say that, i've just realized white on blue was what my first computer used :/
2016-04-24T12:12:42 < dongs> ReadError: yeah
2016-04-24T12:12:53 < ReadError> how did that shit pass QA
2016-04-24T12:12:56 < dongs> 2015 they're normal
2016-04-24T12:13:04 < dongs> but i forgot if i changed that or that wa s default
2016-04-24T12:13:54 < dongs> nice. this jap shop i registered at in like 2009 has changed password security policy
2016-04-24T12:13:57 < PeterM> i gotta say though, i still havent grown out of this colour http://i.imgur.com/ViJ9Ico.png
2016-04-24T12:13:58 < dongs> from anything to retarded
2016-04-24T12:13:59 < mitrax> https://programbytes48k.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/msx-basic.png
2016-04-24T12:14:15 < dongs> so now to update my info there , i ahve to enter pasword
2016-04-24T12:14:26 < dongs> but password check (for complexity) goes before actual pasword check
2016-04-24T12:14:35 < dongs> so I cant update info (and thus change password)
2016-04-24T12:14:49 < dongs> pretty fuckin pro
2016-04-24T12:15:38 < PeterM> can you jsut do a >fogotmypasswordsendmearesetlink
2016-04-24T12:15:53 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/4Yc7XgCh.jpg
2016-04-24T12:16:40 < dongs> PeterM: i can login and checkout by old password.
2016-04-24T12:16:52 < dongs> and i just changed shipping address at checkout
2016-04-24T12:16:58 < dongs> so i didnt technically need to cahnge any info
2016-04-24T12:17:02 < PeterM> ahh
2016-04-24T12:17:09 < dongs> but i figured i go and fix it anyway
2016-04-24T12:17:10 < PeterM> ReadError, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LitDGyxFh4
2016-04-24T12:17:14 < dongs> and then i came across the pass issue
2016-04-24T12:17:28 < dongs> < PeterM> i gotta say though, i still havent grown out of this colour http://i.imgur.com/ViJ9Ico.png
2016-04-24T12:17:31 < dongs> isnt that win98 blue
2016-04-24T12:17:34 < dongs> i prefer win2k blue
2016-04-24T12:17:47 < PeterM> nah is win2k blue
2016-04-24T12:18:05 < PeterM> i do quite liek the w2k grey too, win 95/98 grey was shit tho
2016-04-24T12:18:14 < ReadError> sounds like RA the ruggedman
2016-04-24T12:18:58 < PeterM> legit question - who here has an actual picture as a background, rather than a solid colour?
2016-04-24T12:19:16 < ReadError> mines just default picture
2016-04-24T12:19:20 < ReadError> too lazy to change
2016-04-24T12:19:34 < mitrax> solid color
2016-04-24T12:19:38 < jpa-> at work i think i have default picture, at home i have just black
2016-04-24T12:19:59 < PeterM> nice
2016-04-24T12:20:13 < PeterM> good to see ##stm32 isnt totally retarded
2016-04-24T12:20:21 < dongs> PeterM: mine's win7 flower blue thing
2016-04-24T12:20:25 < dongs> but yeah ive used iwn2k blue for years
2016-04-24T12:20:35 < dongs> its ~smilar color and i never see the flower so
2016-04-24T12:20:39 < dongs> just borders around it
2016-04-24T12:21:09 < ReadError> but honestly
2016-04-24T12:21:16 < ReadError> how often do you look at the actual fucking desktop
2016-04-24T12:21:21 < ReadError> besides right when shit boots
2016-04-24T12:21:34 < dongs> never
2016-04-24T12:21:36 < ReadError> after the first app is open
2016-04-24T12:21:37 < dongs> that was my point
2016-04-24T12:21:38 < ReadError> its gameover
2016-04-24T12:22:12 < PeterM> ReadError, i have some shit on there like folders and stuff and just win+m to get to them
2016-04-24T12:22:44 < ReadError> i drag shit to the little side bar
2016-04-24T12:22:47 < ReadError> in explorer
2016-04-24T12:22:48 < dongs> oh god wat a fucking shitshow
2016-04-24T12:22:57 < dongs> in windows 10 you cant even set your own color
2016-04-24T12:23:03 < dongs> you choose from like 20 retarded pastel shits
2016-04-24T12:23:04 < dongs> !?!?!?!
2016-04-24T12:23:06 < dongs> for backgroudn
2016-04-24T12:23:18 < ReadError> haha yea I was trying to customize the fucking task bar
2016-04-24T12:23:33 < ReadError> and it wouldnt let me really select a color for it
2016-04-24T12:23:40 < PeterM> iirc you could in the preview builds but they took half hte shit out in the release build
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2016-04-24T12:24:04 < dongs> control /name Microsoft.Personalization /page pageWallpaper
2016-04-24T12:25:00 < dongs> there's probably a way to bring up old desk.cpl
2016-04-24T12:25:11 < dongs> with  tabs for changing colors
2016-04-24T12:25:18 < dongs> so thats 3 fuckign ways to do same shit on windows
2016-04-24T12:26:56 < ReadError> finally upgraded all my virtual shits to win10
2016-04-24T12:27:02 < ReadError> glad I skipped 8
2016-04-24T12:28:06 < ReadError> kinda diggin the new altium icons
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2016-04-24T12:29:29 < dongs> ??
2016-04-24T12:29:41 < ReadError> the ones in 16
2016-04-24T12:29:46 < ReadError> they look nicer
2016-04-24T12:29:52 < dongs> o shit .9 is out
2016-04-24T12:30:13 < dongs> hm nothign really nw tho
2016-04-24T12:33:08 < ReadError> heh apparently it works under WineHQ
2016-04-24T12:33:18 < dongs> why would anyone give a shit
2016-04-24T12:33:28 < dongs> did you get that info from kikepedia?
2016-04-24T12:33:32 < ReadError> no
2016-04-24T12:33:37 < ReadError> the russian torrent site
2016-04-24T12:33:45 < dongs> few years ago I came across some windows app listing in wikipedia
2016-04-24T12:33:52 < dongs> and in the "runs under" box it was like
2016-04-24T12:34:05 < dongs> Windows XP/200/7/wahtever and LUNIX (Under wine)
2016-04-24T12:34:10 < dongs> edited that shit and removed
2016-04-24T12:34:21 < dongs> with acomment of like "nobody gives a fuck that some sehit runs shitty under wine"
2016-04-24T12:35:47 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/CLctNYtDRqk?t=47s
2016-04-24T12:35:51 < dongs> readcloner the dumb fucking pirate
2016-04-24T12:36:00 < dongs> ReadError: you're making profit with altidumb, why havent you bought it
2016-04-24T12:36:09 < ReadError> making a profit?
2016-04-24T12:36:12 < dongs> yes
2016-04-24T12:36:16 < ReadError> how
2016-04-24T12:36:18 < dongs> for-profit cloning
2016-04-24T12:36:23 < dongs> that sounds like profit to me
2016-04-24T12:36:30 < ReadError> nah
2016-04-24T12:36:40 < ReadError> cucks owe me money
2016-04-24T12:36:55 < dongs> riiiiiiiiiight
2016-04-24T12:37:09 < ReadError> not altium
2016-04-24T12:37:59 < ReadError> any stm32 exist with CAN transceiver built in?
2016-04-24T12:45:08 < Thorn> lpc11c22 lpc11c24
2016-04-24T12:45:37 < PeterM> oh shit, ST bought NXP thron?
2016-04-24T12:45:41 < PeterM> *thorn?
2016-04-24T12:46:39 < Thorn> could be the other way round
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2016-04-24T12:50:15 < dongs> wat
2016-04-24T12:51:19 < PeterM> ReadError, asked for stm32 with CAN TRX, Thorn suggested NXP part, so i jsut assumed NXP was a part fo ST now, becausw whhy else would you post shit liek that
2016-04-24T12:51:27 < dongs> rite
2016-04-24T12:54:59 < dongs> any automaotive STM8s have can?
2016-04-24T12:55:00 < lorenzo> what do you pr0s use for simulating smps?
2016-04-24T12:55:17 < lorenzo> let's say throw in a TPS or whatever and a few parts
2016-04-24T12:55:23 < dongs> lorenzo: put it on board and see if i t works
2016-04-24T12:55:25 < dongs> if it does, done
2016-04-24T12:56:44 < dongs> but im far from pro
2016-04-24T12:56:53 < dongs> sometimes i also have to calculate R1/R2
2016-04-24T12:56:55 < dongs> thats when I really rage
2016-04-24T12:57:18 < dongs> and I avoid parts that have that COMP network
2016-04-24T12:57:19 < dongs> R+C
2016-04-24T12:57:42 < lorenzo> dongs: sure everyone likes low part count not for the BOM but cause they can't r1 r2 lc networks and shit
2016-04-24T12:57:51 < lorenzo> that's one of the secrets
2016-04-24T12:58:07 < lorenzo> :p
2016-04-24T13:07:46 < ReadError> dongs are Engineer brand tools cheap in .jp ?
2016-04-24T13:07:50 < dongs> yes
2016-04-24T13:07:53 < dongs> well, they're just normal
2016-04-24T13:07:59 < dongs> i buy that shit from a physical shop nearby
2016-04-24T13:08:01 < dongs> they have most of the stuff
2016-04-24T13:08:06 < ReadError> yea pretty good stuff
2016-04-24T13:08:12 < dongs> im sure aidsfruit rapes a nice 200% markup on them
2016-04-24T13:08:40 < dongs> my small nippers and shit are from them, also tweezers and otehr misc stuff
2016-04-24T13:08:54 < ReadError> i wish they sold bundles
2016-04-24T13:09:08 < ReadError> sets, w/e
2016-04-24T13:12:57 < PeterM> i use these guys for my bigger pliers and shit http://marvelcorp-global.com/products/
2016-04-24T13:13:03 < PeterM> good shit
2016-04-24T13:14:36 < PeterM> if you need to cut big cables, http://marvelcorp-global.com/products/detail/000103.html 10/10
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2016-04-24T13:29:06 < ReadError> i was looking for some nice smaller tools
2016-04-24T13:29:20 < ReadError> ive got a few of the engineer things all have been nice
2016-04-24T13:36:01 < dongs> zyp, do you wanna freelance USB-CCID for me?
2016-04-24T13:36:15 < dongs> on stm32 of course
2016-04-24T13:36:45 < dongs> hmm maybe ST lib already has it
2016-04-24T13:38:41 < dongs> yeah. k problem solved
2016-04-24T13:48:12 < dongs> maybe i shoiuld use 072 for this stuff
2016-04-24T13:48:18 < dongs> gives me an excuse to work wiht the new F0 stuff to o
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2016-04-24T13:59:22 < Steffanx> dont you give up on the f103 so fast you..
2016-04-24T14:03:42 < dongs> ya i probly wont
2016-04-24T14:03:54 < dongs> so much easier copypaste stm32f103 altidumb block than make a new one
2016-04-24T14:04:44 < ReadError> https://www.verical.com/pd/stmicroelectronics-microcontroller-stm32f051k8u6tr-1207164
2016-04-24T14:04:52 < ReadError> lol how the fuck, 1/2 million
2016-04-24T14:05:08 < dongs> 1611 datecode too
2016-04-24T14:05:25 < ReadError> freshies
2016-04-24T14:06:13 < ReadError> https://www.verical.com/pd/stmicroelectronics-microcontroller-stm32f051k8u6-487260
2016-04-24T14:06:22 < ReadError> prolly just get these
2016-04-24T14:06:46 < dongs> cloner
2016-04-24T14:07:48 < dongs> more like http://cloner.pro
2016-04-24T14:08:14 < ReadError> jelly of domain name, wish i was smart enough to have gotten it
2016-04-24T14:09:01 < dongs> dont worry, arduino.guru still open
2016-04-24T14:09:41 < ReadError> too dumb for arduino
2016-04-24T14:09:51 < ReadError> I got spoiled by nice debugging stuff
2016-04-24T14:10:27 < ReadError> going to println debugging is hard
2016-04-24T14:10:28 < mitrax> funny how a lot of retards jumped on those new tld thinking that would be the shit
2016-04-24T14:10:41 < dongs> what dumb shit do you own, mitrax
2016-04-24T14:10:44 < dongs> anything worthwhile
2016-04-24T14:11:03 < mitrax> nuffin
2016-04-24T14:11:04 < dongs> don.gs is taken long time ago
2016-04-24T14:14:06 < Steffanx> Why am i not suprised you even did some html tags and not just plaintext
2016-04-24T14:14:17 < dongs> haha
2016-04-24T14:14:44 < mitrax> the only one i own that could have some use i guess is unfiltered.net
2016-04-24T14:15:15 < Steffanx> ovh, like a real french script kiddie.
2016-04-24T14:16:25 < mitrax> Steffanx: yup!
2016-04-24T14:16:34 < dongs> The fact that .christmas exists is one more piece of evidence to call bullshit when Christians get their circumcised dicks in a crucifix over “religious prosecution”.
2016-04-24T14:17:23 < dongs> And is Black Friday really so important that it demands its own domain extension when the United States is the only country in the world that rewards fat people with cheap consumer goods for trampling underpaid security guards?
2016-04-24T14:17:28 < dongs> ahaha
2016-04-24T14:17:33 < Streaker> dicks in a crucifix
2016-04-24T14:17:43 < Streaker> should his that
2016-04-24T14:17:54 < Streaker> *gis
2016-04-24T14:17:57 < dongs> heh
2016-04-24T14:19:01 < dongs> oh i also have butt.care
2016-04-24T14:19:04 < dongs> i guess thats kinda useful
2016-04-24T14:19:33 < Steffanx> give it to flyback
2016-04-24T14:21:18 < ReadError> I have ping-f.net
2016-04-24T14:21:28 < dongs> boring
2016-04-24T14:21:33 < dongs> i'd prefer cmd.exe
2016-04-24T14:22:02 < ReadError> remotelyfixmypc.com / .net
2016-04-24T14:22:18 < ReadError> didnt ever plan on using it just got it high a long time ago
2016-04-24T14:22:28 < Steffanx> http://idontneedsuchfancydomain.com/
2016-04-24T14:22:52 < mitrax> pen.is would have been funny to own
2016-04-24T14:22:56 < mitrax> maybe karlp owns it :)
2016-04-24T14:23:10 < dongs> i still ahve gnaa.us
2016-04-24T14:23:45 < dongs> http://dumb.domains/ nice
2016-04-24T14:23:48 < dongs> i think i clicked this before
2016-04-24T14:23:55 < Steffanx> Technical Contact Name:                      Tim Copperfield <2
2016-04-24T14:23:56 < Steffanx> <3
2016-04-24T14:24:58 < dongs> crooked.equipment
2016-04-24T14:25:36 < dongs> wank.solar
2016-04-24T14:25:36 < PeterM> lady.farm
2016-04-24T14:25:57 < dongs> literally.berlin
2016-04-24T14:26:07 < dongs> bum.photography
2016-04-24T14:26:24 < dongs> pants.camera
2016-04-24T14:26:42 < dongs> crap.training
2016-04-24T14:26:43 < dongs> haha
2016-04-24T14:27:20 < dongs> wow crap.protection is $2100
2016-04-24T14:27:34 < dongs> as well as crap.security
2016-04-24T14:28:00 < PeterM> man, i gotta get a hold of some irish TLDs
2016-04-24T14:28:08 < dongs> .is?
2016-04-24T14:28:10 < PeterM> .ie is
2016-04-24T14:28:12 < dongs> oh
2016-04-24T14:28:32 < dongs> pretty sure dong.ie is taken
2016-04-24T14:28:33 < PeterM> creamp
2016-04-24T14:28:38 < PeterM> lol
2016-04-24T14:28:44 < dongs> hm its not
2016-04-24T14:29:27 < dongs> wank.land
2016-04-24T14:29:28 < dongs> $34.99
2016-04-24T14:29:57 < PeterM> oman must have some super scam TLDs
2016-04-24T14:30:01 < PeterM> *domains
2016-04-24T14:30:25 < PeterM> like http://microsoftc.om/ would be pretty good
2016-04-24T14:30:41 < dongs> Whether you’re a company, sole trader, an individual or perhaps a band or local charity, you must prove you have a real connection to Ireland in order to register .ie domain names.
2016-04-24T14:30:45 < dongs> good luck wiht that
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2016-04-24T14:30:59 < dongs> my dong has a real connection to ireland
2016-04-24T14:31:00 < dongs> is that enough??
2016-04-24T14:31:04 < PeterM> i have a friend who lives and works in ireland
2016-04-24T14:31:14 < dongs> ireland is that google/etc tax haven right
2016-04-24T14:31:16 < PeterM> im gonan get bgdw.ie
2016-04-24T14:31:20 < PeterM> yeah
2016-04-24T14:32:23 < dongs> Please send a copy of your ID or
2016-04-24T14:32:24 < dongs> Utility Bill along with a letter of
2016-04-24T14:32:24 < dongs> claim. Your letter needs to explain
2016-04-24T14:32:24 < dongs> what you want the domain name for
2016-04-24T14:32:24 < dongs> and how you will use it.
2016-04-24T14:32:27 < dongs> what the fuck
2016-04-24T14:32:34 < dongs> thats an actual requirement for a generic domain in .ie
2016-04-24T14:33:17 < dongs> shitty.limo
2016-04-24T14:33:30 < PeterM> super dissapopinted no http://orga.sm/
2016-04-24T14:33:41 < dongs> deaddns
2016-04-24T14:34:00 < dongs> crap.holdings
2016-04-24T14:34:20 < dongs> pirate.cheap
2016-04-24T14:34:20 < dongs> $34.99
2016-04-24T14:34:25 < dongs> actually moderately useful
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2016-04-24T14:34:33 < dongs> untilyou get DMCA'd
2016-04-24T14:35:00 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ck
2016-04-24T14:35:00 < PeterM> Non-resident domain applications cost €222.00(EUR) for a minimum of 2 years, and must be renewed every 2 years thereafter.
2016-04-24T14:35:00 < PeterM> Applications for a domain if it is already taken or is not affiliated with brand or name identity to you or your company e.g. 'nike.co.ck', 'mobil.co.ck', etc.
2016-04-24T14:35:06 < PeterM> suckmy.co.ck
2016-04-24T14:35:12 < PeterM> lol
2016-04-24T14:36:03 < PeterM> Domains considered profane will not be considered on any level, and the application will be dissolved with the applicant being notified, and future requests for the same domain name will be ignored. '.ck' domains are monitored on the web, on a regular basis for profanity on the Internet if it is found to be doing so, or if the site is deemed inappropriate, the domain will be terminated without noti
2016-04-24T14:36:04 < PeterM> fication or refund.
2016-04-24T14:36:08 < PeterM> suepr dissapointed again
2016-04-24T14:36:11 < PeterM> suepr even
2016-04-24T14:36:15 < PeterM> super
2016-04-24T14:36:15 < PeterM> fuck
2016-04-24T14:40:32 < PeterM> stupid.horse
2016-04-24T14:43:15 < PeterM> hande.gg would be a good football website
2016-04-24T14:43:25 < PeterM> err rugby rather
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2016-04-24T14:55:16 < Thorn> https://pp.vk.me/c621218/v621218327/1a7a3/pYv2_04miyk.jpg tl07x in pro audio equipment: not too cheap apparently
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2016-04-24T15:02:45 < Laurenceb__> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f7_1461485379
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2016-04-24T15:05:10 < Steffanx> better turn the brightness down instead of wearing sun glasses
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2016-04-24T15:07:31 < Laurenceb__> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dc7_1461483461
2016-04-24T15:07:44 < dongs> Thorn: that pcb looks as pro as typical sparkfuck breakout
2016-04-24T15:08:13 < Thorn> I think it goes for $100+
2016-04-24T15:08:37 < dongs> could be replaced with SMD stuff in 1/10th the size
2016-04-24T15:08:48 < dongs> or probably just a STM32 if it doesnt do anything special
2016-04-24T15:08:50 < Thorn> I don't know why they don't
2016-04-24T15:09:19 < Thorn> stm32 seems popular in new stuff
2016-04-24T15:10:16 < Thorn> but it'd make it more expensive given that it's probably several simple filters
2016-04-24T15:17:27 < ReadError> assembly on that stuff has to be a PITA
2016-04-24T15:17:36 < ReadError> bending all those damn resistor leads
2016-04-24T15:17:45 < dongs> its automatic
2016-04-24T15:17:54 < dongs> i mean, assuming they're doing automatic pth placement.
2016-04-24T15:18:06 < ReadError> oh i thought it was just some guy making them
2016-04-24T15:18:22 < dongs> o i duno im talking in general for pth assembly
2016-04-24T15:18:32 < dongs> there are machines to bend + insert + clip the stuff
2016-04-24T15:18:35 < dongs> just the same as smt
2016-04-24T15:18:39 < ReadError> that stuff has to cost more than SMT ?
2016-04-24T15:19:24 < dongs> time to check freelancer
2016-04-24T15:19:48 < dongs> the stupid fucking capacitor sensor kernel devloper turk is back
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2016-04-24T15:20:34 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/sytes.html
2016-04-24T15:20:39 < dongs> Enable ftp in my OVH VPS $2.0 USD
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2016-04-24T15:20:47 < dongs> “He is expert in his field and very honest in his work. This task which was said by other developer will take 5 hours has been completed in less than 1 hr by this geek. ”
2016-04-24T15:20:48 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-24T15:21:03 < dongs> $2/hr to turn on ftp on ovh
2016-04-24T15:21:10 < dongs> readcloner could probly do this wiht his eyes closed
2016-04-24T15:21:21 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/design-electronic-device-for-satellite/
2016-04-24T15:21:41 < ReadError> what dev had the balls to quote 5hrs for that
2016-04-24T15:21:53 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Motor-controller-program-written/
2016-04-24T15:22:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-board-layout-10303484/
2016-04-24T15:22:45 < dongs> haha
2016-04-24T15:23:52 < Thorn> this stuff is probably assembled in a basement
2016-04-24T15:23:53 < ReadError> whats the green dollar sign bar
2016-04-24T15:23:56 < ReadError> how expensive they are?
2016-04-24T15:24:00 < Thorn> no autoplace
2016-04-24T15:28:39 < dongs> ReadError: on what
2016-04-24T15:29:01 < dongs> the lunix guy?
2016-04-24T15:29:23 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/P2UN/chrome-2016-04-24-08-29-13.png
2016-04-24T15:29:33 < ReadError> 2.4
2016-04-24T15:29:39 < dongs> no thats how many prpojects related to his skillset he completed
2016-04-24T15:30:04 < dongs> its some gay formula i duno wat it is but more shitty jobs = higher
2016-04-24T15:30:58 < dongs> haha his skills list includes "moving terabytes of data"
2016-04-24T15:37:28 < ReadError> https://www.freelancer.com/services/I-will-create-a-video-testimonial-or-a-product-review-1341.html
2016-04-24T15:37:31 < ReadError> do it!!!
2016-04-24T15:37:50 < dongs> $5
2016-04-24T15:37:54 < dongs> talk shit about clifton
2016-04-24T15:38:01 < ReadError> ya something
2016-04-24T15:38:05 < ReadError> its only $5
2016-04-24T15:38:22 < dongs> Step 2: Choose Your Package
2016-04-24T15:38:22 < dongs> BUDGET: +$20  • 30-second video (up to 75 words)
2016-04-24T15:38:23 < dongs> err
2016-04-24T15:38:34 < dongs> i think fiverr is better for this kinda trash
2016-04-24T15:38:40 < aandrew> dongs: you've used spi and dma on stm?
2016-04-24T15:38:52 < dongs> aandrew: yessir
2016-04-24T15:38:54 < aandrew> I think I'm fucking close
2016-04-24T15:38:58 < dongs> not with cube but, yes
2016-04-24T15:39:06 < dongs> DMA tx on spi, i forgot if I did dma rx before
2016-04-24T15:39:13 < aandrew> I get the completed interrupt and callback, but the transfer count is not zero (it's not decremented at all)
2016-04-24T15:39:26 < dongs> rx or tx?
2016-04-24T15:39:42 < aandrew> both really, I have to tx 3 bytes and rx like 60k in the same transaction
2016-04-24T15:39:53 < aandrew> so I tx and rx 60k+3 and don't care what I transmit after the 3
2016-04-24T15:39:58 < dongs> err
2016-04-24T15:39:59 < dongs> sadly
2016-04-24T15:40:07 < dongs> you will have to have 60k buffers for both :)
2016-04-24T15:40:13 < aandrew> yep
2016-04-24T15:40:42 < aandrew> I use one 64k buffer and point both to it
2016-04-24T15:40:59 < dongs> nothing really to catch here i guess
2016-04-24T15:41:00 < aandrew> it needs to tx a byte before it can rx a byte so it works out
2016-04-24T15:41:03 < dongs> do you clear TCIF flags?
2016-04-24T15:41:19 < aandrew> the HAL takes care of that but I should try to explicitly do it too
2016-04-24T15:41:50 < aandrew> I was reading DM00046011 and thought maybe I had to disable the SPI peripherla first but that didn't do it either
2016-04-24T15:42:05 < aandrew> no error is seen (no error in DMA or SPI regs) just a "transfer complete" with no data transferred
2016-04-24T15:42:23 < dongs> you sure it works wiht shit pointing to same buffer?
2016-04-24T15:42:31 < dongs> (i'd try a quick test with separate just in case)
2016-04-24T15:42:40 < aandrew> pretty sure, only becasue the blocking mode works fine that way
2016-04-24T15:42:55 < aandrew> and RX dma can't transfer until TX dma has fired
2016-04-24T15:43:25 < dongs> clocking you mean turning on SPI and w aitin for completion in while(TCIF)?
2016-04-24T15:43:31 < dongs> err
2016-04-24T15:43:33 < dongs> clocking = blocking
2016-04-24T15:43:40 < dongs> cock blocking
2016-04-24T15:44:23 < aandrew> dongs: cblocking as in using HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive() vs HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive_DMA
2016-04-24T15:44:42 < dongs> sigh isnt that shit supposet to JUST WORK
2016-04-24T15:44:47 < aandrew> heh
2016-04-24T15:44:55 < aandrew> well the blocking does, it's just slow
2016-04-24T15:44:56 < dongs> like, if Iw as using a function called HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive_DMA() i expecte to call it and be done
2016-04-24T15:45:09 < aandrew> well slow as in FreeRTOS will interrupt it
2016-04-24T15:45:14 < aandrew> I agree
2016-04-24T15:45:17 < Rob235> quaternions quaternions quaternions
2016-04-24T15:45:32 < aandrew> (gdb) print /x *hdma->Instance
2016-04-24T15:45:33 < aandrew> $1 = {CR = 0x1041e, NDTR = 0xc5e9, PAR = 0x4001300c, M0AR = 0x2000bf98, M1AR = 0x0, FCR = 0xa0}
2016-04-24T15:45:43 < aandrew> that's what the DMA peripherla looks like when I get a completion interrupt
2016-04-24T15:45:48 < aandrew> NDTR is nowhere near zero
2016-04-24T15:53:28 < ReadError> dongs some of these people, seems like their time is completely useless
2016-04-24T15:53:36 < ReadError> way too much shit for $5
2016-04-24T15:53:37 < dongs> feelancers?
2016-04-24T15:53:38 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-24T15:53:39 < dongs> yeah.
2016-04-24T15:53:44 < dongs> totally.
2016-04-24T15:53:47 < dongs> racing to the bottom
2016-04-24T15:53:54 < dongs> im chatting to that fuckiung kernel touchscreen asshole right nwo
2016-04-24T15:53:55 < ReadError> i might snag a nice vector logo
2016-04-24T15:53:59 < ReadError> link?
2016-04-24T15:54:00 < dongs> telling him that what he wants to do will never be possible
2016-04-24T15:54:12 < dongs> just search, he has like 20 projects up
2016-04-24T15:54:14 < dongs> for same fucking thing
2016-04-24T15:54:26 < dongs> he wants to read RAW capacitance data from touchscreen
2016-04-24T15:54:29 < dongs> on a phone
2016-04-24T15:54:34 < dongs> which he doenest specify
2016-04-24T15:54:54 < aandrew> hm, wait
2016-04-24T15:54:56 < ReadError> uhhh its probably abstracted by the OS ?
2016-04-24T15:55:05 < aandrew> there are 8 stream config registers
2016-04-24T15:55:08 < dongs> at minimum would need SoC docs for i2C/SPI raw access, would need touch screen IC datasheet/docs for the internals, and chances are the actual RAW data is not even available because it preproceses it into something less retarded
2016-04-24T15:55:13 < dongs> ReadError: of course it is
2016-04-24T15:55:16 < aandrew> how the fuck do you configure two DMA channels using the same stream?
2016-04-24T15:55:18 < ReadError> why does he want this
2016-04-24T15:55:23 < dongs> ReadError: im trying to ask
2016-04-24T15:55:29 < ReadError> indian ?
2016-04-24T15:55:32 < ReadError> oh turk
2016-04-24T15:55:33 < ReadError> nm
2016-04-24T15:55:36 < dongs> lebanon or someshit
2016-04-24T15:55:38 < dongs> close enough
2016-04-24T15:55:42 < dongs> i dont even know wehre that is
2016-04-24T15:56:13 < ReadError> https://www.freelancer.com/services/I-provide-PCB-design-drawing-and-schematics-13206.html
2016-04-24T15:56:19 < ReadError> lol hot damn, he will autoroute
2016-04-24T15:56:51 < dongs> turk went quiet
2016-04-24T15:58:16 < dongs> probably google translating my barrage of  rage
2016-04-24T15:58:18 < dongs> into lebenese
2016-04-24T15:58:31 < dongs> or wahtever the fck shit language they're talking in there
2016-04-24T15:58:47 < dongs> fuckin arabic
2016-04-24T15:58:49 < dongs> is official language
2016-04-24T15:58:50 < aandrew> I don't think you can DMA in both directions simultaneously
2016-04-24T15:58:52 < dongs> now im on teh terrorist watch list
2016-04-24T15:58:57 < dongs> aandrew: .
2016-04-24T15:59:13 < aandrew> SPI1 for instance uses DMA2 stream 3. but tx and rx are two different channels on the same stream
2016-04-24T15:59:30 < aandrew> and there's one set of DMA regs *per stream* not per channel
2016-04-24T15:59:45 < aandrew> so you set it up for one, then when you try to set up the other direction it overwrites the first
2016-04-24T16:01:07 < aandrew> er I have that backward
2016-04-24T16:01:18 < aandrew> there are 8 channels, and each channel has 8 streams to choose from
2016-04-24T16:01:33 < aandrew> but I don't know that you can set up a channel for two streams, because there's only one set of regs per channel
2016-04-24T16:04:38 < ReadError> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Design-code-assembly-line-program/
2016-04-24T16:04:43 < ReadError> this has to be homework
2016-04-24T16:06:29 < aandrew> if you can get an indian to do it for you, wh not
2016-04-24T16:06:41 < ReadError> i think the guy posting it is indian?
2016-04-24T16:07:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/hemanthult.html
2016-04-24T16:07:44 < dongs> poster = indian
2016-04-24T16:08:04 < dongs> oh
2016-04-24T16:08:07 < dongs> maybe hes like a recruiter
2016-04-24T16:09:00 < dongs> haha ffs
2016-04-24T16:09:07 < dongs> teh final application of this touch shit is
2016-04-24T16:09:10 < dongs> "identify user by fingerprint"
2016-04-24T16:09:13 < dongs> on touchscreen
2016-04-24T16:09:15 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-24T16:09:16 < dongs> yeah okay
2016-04-24T16:09:16 < ReadError> gtfo
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2016-04-24T16:09:58 < mitrax> crt: where the fuck have you been?
2016-04-24T16:10:22 < dongs> waht will you use this website for? [ ] pumping [ ] trolling [ ] all of the above
2016-04-24T16:10:32 < ReadError> https://www.freelancer.com/u/hamasaki.html
2016-04-24T16:10:37 < ReadError> only 90% english??
2016-04-24T16:10:45 < ReadError> figured you would have got 100
2016-04-24T16:11:01 < dongs> have you seen their english test?
2016-04-24T16:11:02 < ReadError> C pro
2016-04-24T16:11:04 < dongs> its written by indians
2016-04-24T16:11:07 < ReadError> nah lol
2016-04-24T16:11:17 < ReadError> you have to pay for these test?
2016-04-24T16:11:25 < aandrew> sigh
2016-04-24T16:11:25 < aandrew> I"m an idiot.
2016-04-24T16:11:42 < aandrew> there are 8 dma *stream* registers, not 8 dma channel registers
2016-04-24T16:11:52 < aandrew> you configure based on the table going "down" not "across"
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2016-04-24T16:14:59  * jpa- pokes Tectu with an unidentified object
2016-04-24T16:15:43  * Tectu jabs jpa- 
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2016-04-24T16:16:22 < Tectu> how are you, Mr. J?
2016-04-24T16:16:37 < jpa-> i washed some windows today
2016-04-24T16:16:45 < ReadError> https://www.freelancer.com/u/MikroStar.html?ref_project_id=9478694
2016-04-24T16:16:53 < ReadError> probably the most pro guy ive seen
2016-04-24T16:16:56 < Tectu> and how does that influence your "how are you"-state?
2016-04-24T16:17:11 < jpa-> well one has to be pretty bored to wash windows
2016-04-24T16:17:40 < jpa-> http://essentialscrap.com/webcam/   now milling some lenses to the wrong curvature
2016-04-24T16:17:58 < mitrax> unless you have a hot neighbor sunbathing or something
2016-04-24T16:18:22 < mitrax> crt: the mountains? where?
2016-04-24T16:19:13 < mitrax> you were supposed to get some shit done with keil
2016-04-24T16:20:10 < mitrax> good
2016-04-24T16:20:24 < kakimir> jpa-: have you always been jpa- ?
2016-04-24T16:22:29 < jpa-> kakimir: no, in long past, forgotten times i had a real name
2016-04-24T16:22:36 < dongs> WEBCAM IS OFFLINE
2016-04-24T16:22:49 < dongs> 1.0gb webm
2016-04-24T16:22:53 < dongs> how many days is that
2016-04-24T16:22:57 < dongs> in time
2016-04-24T16:23:02 < emeb> so much useless dayta
2016-04-24T16:23:23 < kakimir> what is weird there is people irl calling me kakeman
2016-04-24T16:23:30 < aandrew> dongs: how much time do you spend trolling freelancer for work?
2016-04-24T16:23:36 < dongs> none
2016-04-24T16:23:37 < aandrew> seems really high SNR
2016-04-24T16:23:40 < kakimir> gives me chills
2016-04-24T16:23:44 < aandrew> er sorry low SNR
2016-04-24T16:23:56 < dongs> if i wasnt browsing feelancer now i'd be fapping or wasting time anyway
2016-04-24T16:24:00 < dongs> or chatting on irc
2016-04-24T16:24:06 < dongs> isntead of doing acutal work
2016-04-24T16:24:08 < aandrew> fair enough
2016-04-24T16:24:31 < dongs> http://www.christianholz.net/2015-chi15-holz_buthpitiya_knaust-bodyprint-biometric_user_identification_on_mobile_devices_using_the_capacitive_touchscreen_to_scan_body_parts.pdf
2016-04-24T16:24:35 < dongs> found this for the turk
2016-04-24T16:24:51 < kakimir> I don't know how to make money out of freelancer but having some generic basic designs that you use
2016-04-24T16:25:04 < Laurenceb__>  "body parts"
2016-04-24T16:25:20 < kakimir> when we talk about full device desings
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2016-04-24T16:25:40 < dongs> Laurenceb__: the resolution is awful enough you can barely scan your dick
2016-04-24T16:25:42 < dongs> with repeatable accuracy
2016-04-24T16:25:46 < dongs> check page 2 top left
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2016-04-24T16:27:49 < aandrew> yeah I saw that "body parts" too
2016-04-24T16:27:51 < Laurenceb__> in Syria and Turkey they can just ID the flying body parts with camera
2016-04-24T16:27:58 < aandrew> SLIDE SHLONG TO IDENTIFY
2016-04-24T16:28:16 < upgrdman> anyone know of a highendish fpga dev board that can also double as a readymade tool? the red pitaya seems super interesting but those faggots wont release schematics
2016-04-24T16:28:29 < dongs> wasnt it dickstartred?
2016-04-24T16:28:44 < upgrdman> dunno
2016-04-24T16:28:51 < dongs> it was
2016-04-24T16:30:51 < Laurenceb__> I walk past the huge advert for it on the front of RS every day lol
2016-04-24T16:31:32 < emeb> I've got one in a box under my desk here - have never done anything with it.
2016-04-24T16:31:42 < dongs> However, I'm disappointed at the refusal to release full electrical schematics for the supposedly "open source" project. My guess is they want to keep imitators from generating similar products, as they have now partnered with RS/Allied to sell the board for ~$500.
2016-04-24T16:31:58 < dongs> ownt
2016-04-24T16:32:02 < Laurenceb__> not that working next to RS helps, their staff are so lazy that counter pick up takes > 5 hours
2016-04-24T16:32:12 < emeb> Seems like a stupid idea for an FPGA board
2016-04-24T16:32:21 < dongs> my pal in londong used to do that
2016-04-24T16:32:28 < dongs> from RS or maybe farnell
2016-04-24T16:32:31 < dongs> do they also do counter pickup?
2016-04-24T16:32:32 < emeb> How the hell are you supposed to design anything for it w/o dox?
2016-04-24T16:33:08 < Laurenceb__> dunno, Farnell is like 150miles away from me
2016-04-24T16:33:52 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pitaya_(hardware)
2016-04-24T16:33:53 < dongs> time to edit
2016-04-24T16:34:01 < dongs> Red Pitaya is open-source project intended to be alternative for many expensive laboratory measurement and control instruments.[1]
2016-04-24T16:34:06 < dongs> open-source
2016-04-24T16:35:34 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pitaya_(hardware) tada.
2016-04-24T16:35:46 < dongs> doesn't look so useful now does it?
2016-04-24T16:35:53 < dongs> Red Pitaya is closed-source hardware project intended to be alternative for many expensive laboratory measurement and control instruments
2016-04-24T16:36:06 < emeb> you so funny
2016-04-24T16:36:07 < dongs> so basically its another $500 piece of hardware that you cannot make useful stuff with
2016-04-24T16:36:26 < emeb> see how long it takes the to switch it back
2016-04-24T16:36:34 < dongs> im gonna guess ages
2016-04-24T16:37:18 < emeb> Can't imagine how not releasing the schematics is helpful in any way
2016-04-24T16:37:31 < dongs> stops dumb cloners
2016-04-24T16:37:42 < emeb> 1) not hard to infer from looking at board & FPGA source code.
2016-04-24T16:37:43 < aandrew> cloners won't give a shit about schematics
2016-04-24T16:37:50 < aandrew> they'll take the gerbers and create the same thing
2016-04-24T16:37:57 < dongs> cloner.pro s
2016-04-24T16:38:01 < aandrew> hell they'll take the actual board and generate gerbers from it
2016-04-24T16:40:02 < BrainDamage> slap a citation needed to anyone that revers the change
2016-04-24T16:40:22 < Laurenceb__> this is a closed source open source project
2016-04-24T16:41:02 < emeb> neither closed nor open. one might say "ajar"
2016-04-24T16:41:11 < emeb> "this is an ajar source project"
2016-04-24T16:41:14 < BrainDamage> jar jar*
2016-04-24T16:42:09 < ReadError> seen a project, hardware is open, software is closed
2016-04-24T16:42:09 < emeb> anyone here have experience with ili9341 LCD controllers in SPI mode?
2016-04-24T16:42:15 < ReadError> pretty odd
2016-04-24T16:42:48 < emeb> been working on one and discovered that it doesn't like SPI data that's got continuous clock
2016-04-24T16:42:49 < Tectu> emeb, here
2016-04-24T16:42:58 < emeb> Tectu: of course. :)
2016-04-24T16:43:05 < Tectu> emeb, didn't you have that problem the last time I was here? And then somehow solved it?
2016-04-24T16:43:13 < Tectu> emeb, the 64k issue that was in your firmware?
2016-04-24T16:43:24 < emeb> Tectu: different thing now
2016-04-24T16:43:48 < Tectu> I hope it's not a 128k issue now ;)
2016-04-24T16:44:03 < emeb> when I run the SPI port with continuous streaming clock the display freaks out
2016-04-24T16:44:15 < emeb> but if there's a pause between each byte it works.
2016-04-24T16:44:27 < emeb> pause of ~8clocks
2016-04-24T16:44:37 < Tectu> interesting. I'm 100% sure that I had no problems with that
2016-04-24T16:44:55 < emeb> Tectu: wondering if it's signal integrity
2016-04-24T16:45:01 < Tectu> emeb, can you scope?
2016-04-24T16:45:08 < Laurenceb__> lol ili9341 sounds like aids1298
2016-04-24T16:45:09 < emeb> I've got display hooked up with flying wires from nucleo
2016-04-24T16:45:13 < Laurenceb__> same issue
2016-04-24T16:45:22 < Tectu> emeb, what speeds are we talking about?
2016-04-24T16:45:39 < Tectu> emeb, anything < 20cm and <= 10MHz has never been an issue here.
2016-04-24T16:45:41 < emeb> Tectu: it doesn't seem to be dependent on clock speed
2016-04-24T16:45:45 < Laurenceb__> odd
2016-04-24T16:45:52 < emeb> even if I slow the clock way down it still freaks
2016-04-24T16:46:00 < Tectu> can you define 'freaks out'?
2016-04-24T16:46:02 < Laurenceb__> aids1298 will "work" at stupidly slow clock like 1Mhz
2016-04-24T16:46:25 < emeb> Tectu: when I'm rendering circles they get smeared out randomly across the screen
2016-04-24T16:46:35 < Tectu> that's called anti-aliasing
2016-04-24T16:46:36 < Tectu> lol
2016-04-24T16:46:44 < emeb> like it's not properly getting the address window set up
2016-04-24T16:47:06 < Tectu> and you get that effect with 10MHz and with 100kHz clock?
2016-04-24T16:47:09 < kakimir> I started using word "we" in comments
2016-04-24T16:47:15 < emeb> yep
2016-04-24T16:47:26 < Tectu> emeb, stupid question but... just with circles?
2016-04-24T16:47:34 < kakimir> "We are doing this. We have this thing set"
2016-04-24T16:47:42 < kakimir> I annoy myself
2016-04-24T16:47:46 < emeb> Tectu: no, with other stuff too - text, rectangles, etc.
2016-04-24T16:48:02 < Tectu> emeb, let me check my notes. Just a sec
2016-04-24T16:49:48 < emeb> Tectu: this is with STemWin :P
2016-04-24T16:50:02 < emeb> but my own low-level interface code.
2016-04-24T16:50:40 < Tectu> emeb, I had an ILI93xx display from a customer once that had a similar issue. It turned out that a delay/clock-break was needed after changing the viewport.
2016-04-24T16:51:05 < emeb> Tectu: interesting!
2016-04-24T16:51:10 < Tectu> but then it turned out that it was some pre-release display thingy that the customer got from the display supplier. Basically a prototype bug or something. Wasn't documented.
2016-04-24T16:51:25 < emeb> Lame China crap
2016-04-24T16:51:42 < Tectu> emeb, does emWin allow  you to change the mode so it doesn't use viewports?
2016-04-24T16:51:47 < Tectu> cuz in uGFX you can :P
2016-04-24T16:51:55 < emeb> Tectu: I doubt it.
2016-04-24T16:51:59 < Tectu> hmm
2016-04-24T16:52:20 < emeb> I can just put a delay in the beginning of the multi-byte write low-level routine
2016-04-24T16:52:31 < Tectu> can you try what happens if you keep the continious clock between data packages but not between command packages?
2016-04-24T16:52:52 < Tectu> I never had that problem with any other display but the one I got from that customer. But might be worth a try.
2016-04-24T16:53:08 < emeb> Yeah, sounds like that's what's happening.
2016-04-24T16:53:55 < Tectu> if you feel like it I can recommend drawing some chess-board pattern on the display. if you see a pattern in the "freaked out" drawing that's a strong indication that the viewport setup failed.
2016-04-24T16:54:06 < Tectu> a pattern as in a pattern in the distortion
2016-04-24T16:54:14 < Tectu> not sure if I managed to make you understand what I mean :P
2016-04-24T16:56:04 < emeb> Tectu: I'm drawing random circles of random colors on the screen. When it messes up it just seems to put continuous blobs of color smearing from upper left to lower right.
2016-04-24T16:56:15 < emeb> where one stops the next starts
2016-04-24T16:56:53 < Tectu> smearing as in fading colors?
2016-04-24T16:57:00 < Tectu> or just "distributing"
2016-04-24T16:57:18 < Tectu> as in: the wrongly drawn pixels, are they still having the correct "full" color value?
2016-04-24T16:57:30 < emeb> right color, wrong location
2016-04-24T16:57:41 < Tectu> yeah, try the delay / clock-break between commands and data.
2016-04-24T16:57:55 < Tectu> fixed the issue in that case for me - never saw it anywhere else, though.
2016-04-24T16:58:07 < Tectu> but you never know where those chinese sellers get their display(controllers) from :)
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2016-04-24T16:59:32 < emeb> Right - no way to know whose lame work-alike they're using.
2016-04-24T17:00:41 < dongs> ipad 4 has a 20x40 capsense grid
2016-04-24T17:02:28 < dongs> or 30x40 rather
2016-04-24T17:02:37 < dongs> i guess makes sense for  4:3 thing
2016-04-24T17:04:11 < emeb> delay @ start of multi-byte data doesn't help.
2016-04-24T17:04:22 < emeb> seems to need delay between bytes
2016-04-24T17:04:30 < kakimir> I need inexpesive data recovery for faulty HDD
2016-04-24T17:04:38 < kakimir> recommends?
2016-04-24T17:04:38 < emeb> so that pretty much eliminates possibility of DMA
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2016-04-24T17:09:46 < Steffanx> kakimir: backups
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2016-04-24T17:25:07 < kakimir> sure
2016-04-24T17:25:16 < kakimir> but when the damage is done
2016-04-24T17:25:47 < kakimir> there seems to be some 300usd services in 'necks
2016-04-24T17:28:42 < Steffanx> How important is the data anyway?
2016-04-24T17:31:25 < kakimir> not too much importance
2016-04-24T17:31:42 < kakimir> that's why I'm asking like second to premium service
2016-04-24T17:32:12 < kakimir> I don't actually know - it's friends hdd
2016-04-24T17:33:27 < kakimir> it's not like corporate super secrets there
2016-04-24T17:34:00 < kakimir> it's like nice to have some photos and stuff back
2016-04-24T17:34:24 < dongs> > inexpensive
2016-04-24T17:34:26 < dongs> > data recovery
2016-04-24T17:34:26 < dongs> no
2016-04-24T17:34:30 < dongs> you can do one or another
2016-04-24T17:34:32 < dongs> but not both
2016-04-24T17:34:45 < dongs> is it spinning rust?
2016-04-24T17:34:53 < dongs> and is it seagate
2016-04-24T17:36:33 < kakimir> seagate
2016-04-24T17:36:38 < kakimir> rust? no rust
2016-04-24T17:36:46 < dongs> forget it
2016-04-24T17:36:52 < dongs> the heads have scratched the platter
2016-04-24T17:36:53 < dongs> and its done
2016-04-24T17:37:04 < dongs> spinning rust = mechanical hdd
2016-04-24T17:37:23 < kakimir> it does that thing with head
2016-04-24T17:37:45 < kakimir> periodic motion thru the range
2016-04-24T17:38:05 < kakimir> internets say it's head failure
2016-04-24T17:38:12 < dongs> i already told you this
2016-04-24T17:38:13 < dongs> its gone
2016-04-24T17:38:16 < dongs> and so is the data
2016-04-24T17:39:07 < kakimir> it's beyond recovery?
2016-04-24T17:39:11 < dongs> correct
2016-04-24T17:39:14 < kakimir> nice
2016-04-24T17:39:38 < dongs> had a seagate, same happened, took it to a proper place, that was teh verdict. this is how they shit themselves.
2016-04-24T17:39:51 < dongs> protip: never buy seagate
2016-04-24T17:40:15 < dongs> 2nd protip: never store anything important on a spinning rust hdd that isn't in raid5 or 6
2016-04-24T17:40:42 < ReadError> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q4-2015/
2016-04-24T17:40:45 < ReadError> nuff said
2016-04-24T17:40:53 < dongs> did they shit seagate some more?
2016-04-24T17:40:55 < ReadError> top 4 failed drives lol
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2016-04-24T17:41:20 < dongs> 10% failure rate, what a fucking shitheap
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2016-04-24T17:43:25 < kakimir> why only seagate shit's itself?
2016-04-24T17:43:29 < kakimir> like that
2016-04-24T17:43:32 < dongs> thats just what they do
2016-04-24T17:43:45 < kakimir> it's not like most modern disk
2016-04-24T17:43:51 < kakimir> it's some 500GB or so mode
2016-04-24T17:44:00 < ReadError> then its old as shit
2016-04-24T17:44:02 < ReadError> and was bound to fail
2016-04-24T17:44:27 < dongs> the paki still trying to convince me
2016-04-24T17:44:28 < dongs> that his idea will wor k
2016-04-24T17:44:29 < kakimir> it failed few years back
2016-04-24T17:45:09 < ReadError> ^.^
2016-04-24T17:45:31 < dongs> autismir
2016-04-24T17:45:34 < dongs> just go to sleep
2016-04-24T17:45:35 < dongs> or somethign
2016-04-24T17:48:37 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-24T17:48:52 < kakimir> I need to ask local recovery company
2016-04-24T17:49:07 < kakimir> to confirm the story
2016-04-24T17:49:20 < kakimir> give them the S/N
2016-04-24T17:49:39 < kakimir> P/N
2016-04-24T17:49:48 < kakimir> now I need to feed cows>
2016-04-24T17:53:18 < ReadError> the fuck does your 'friend' care about a HD that died a few years ago w/ nothing important
2016-04-24T17:54:40 < dongs> its the cp
2016-04-24T17:55:44 < Steffanx> that's an interesting linjk ReadError :)
2016-04-24T17:55:54 < dongs> rust data?
2016-04-24T17:55:54 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-24T17:55:58 < ReadError> Steffanx ya has some good data
2016-04-24T17:55:58 < dongs> they publish those every few months.
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2016-04-24T18:29:41 < Rob235> is it possible to use a quaternion as a sort of normal vector to describe a plane and compute the projection length of a single point from that plane to the world plane and do this as a unit circle at the 6 points of the motors and then I have a single value for each motor :)
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2016-04-24T18:40:11 < PeterM> jesusfuck.me Photo Hosting does not allow the following types of files to be uploaded:
2016-04-24T18:40:12 < PeterM> Images which violate copyrights or patents are not allowed.
2016-04-24T18:40:12 < PeterM> Images which contain adult content such as pornography or excessive nudity.
2016-04-24T18:40:12 < PeterM> Images which contain gruesome scenes, such as dead people or mutilations.
2016-04-24T18:40:12 < PeterM> Images which violate the privacy of the individuals depicted are not allowed.
2016-04-24T18:40:12 < PeterM> Images which are considered illegal in your country.
2016-04-24T18:40:21 < PeterM> >jesusfuck.me
2016-04-24T18:40:34 < PeterM> >not allowing adult content
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2016-04-24T18:47:39 < dongs> just had a nice shake
2016-04-24T18:48:44 < aandrew> natto shake?
2016-04-24T18:49:33 < dongs> yes
2016-04-24T18:50:56 < dongs> japs are reporting a 4.4
2016-04-24T18:50:58 < dongs> n oway
2016-04-24T18:51:01 < dongs> it felt a lot more than that
2016-04-24T18:55:29 < ReadError> PeterM they got a dope logo tho
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2016-04-24T18:55:32 < Laurenceb__> lol PeterM cannot post any of his images now
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2016-04-24T19:12:41 < dongs> my time truly is worthless
2016-04-24T19:12:45 < dongs> and dumb paki is a dumb paki
2016-04-24T19:12:47 < dongs> bbl
2016-04-24T19:30:27 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Spectrum-Professional-Wireless-910-004558/dp/B01CEFEMFW/
2016-04-24T19:30:31 < ReadError> fucking gaymer mice
2016-04-24T19:30:42 < ReadError> $150 and 30hr battery life
2016-04-24T19:31:41 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-G9X-Programmable-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-Limited-MW3-Edition-/111973396410?hash=item1a12226fba:g:IH4AAOSwlfxXFT1W
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2016-04-24T19:31:47 < ReadError> ermm i should sell mine it looks like
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2016-04-24T19:44:29 < Laurenceb__> wireless mice always annoy me
2016-04-24T19:44:41 < Laurenceb__> batteries in my mouse.. wtf
2016-04-24T19:45:27 < ReadError> 30hrs is redic
2016-04-24T19:45:45 < Laurenceb__> hmm
2016-04-24T19:45:59 < Laurenceb__> wireless mouse with inductive power
2016-04-24T19:46:11 < Laurenceb__> kickstarter time
2016-04-24T19:46:44 < Laurenceb__> or santorum fuel cell for true gaymers
2016-04-24T19:47:40 < Laurenceb__> http://mionix.net/concepts/concept-px/
2016-04-24T19:47:44 < Laurenceb__> dey stole my ideaz
2016-04-24T19:49:12 < Steffanx> yeah its hard to buy batteries uh Laurenceb__?
2016-04-24T19:49:12 < Laurenceb__> Santorum fuel cell it is then
2016-04-24T19:49:45 < Steffanx> Expecially AA batteries are hard to get.
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2016-04-24T20:08:25 < Steffanx> ReadError has a real limited edition mw3 mouse?
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2016-04-24T20:16:39 < ReadError> Steffanx yea dont like the mw3 shit but liked the g9x
2016-04-24T20:16:52 < ReadError> and snagged 2x of the mw3 for like 29$ each
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2016-04-24T20:21:53 < KreAture_> Simon-- u there ?
2016-04-24T20:23:46 < Steffanx> *knock* *knock*
2016-04-24T20:24:18  * KreAture_ needs the right simon to help find out if he can get governor mode on his ESC if he just finds the right firmware
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2016-04-24T20:31:44 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiADDbeFanU
2016-04-24T20:34:33 < kakimir> is Simon-- the SimonK?
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2016-04-24T20:39:26 < ReadError> yez
2016-04-24T20:40:43 < kakimir> fame
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2016-04-24T20:54:07 < Steffanx> Im supposed to know simonk from what?
2016-04-24T20:54:50 < kakimir> famous ESC control codez
2016-04-24T20:55:19 < Steffanx> oh
2016-04-24T20:57:26 < Lux> KreAture_: iirc that blheli firmware has governor mode
2016-04-24T20:59:29 < kakimir> I need to program one ESC today
2016-04-24T20:59:44 < kakimir> or tommorow
2016-04-24T20:59:51 < kakimir> for the gliderz
2016-04-24T21:00:41 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2GcdpJiNGfKblpwdC1TWVRkX2M&usp=sharing project
2016-04-24T21:01:00 < Rob235> can someone do me a favor and tell me the correct value of vector(1, 0, 0) and vector(0, 1, 0) rotated by quaternion(0.92388, 0, 0.38268, 0) ?
2016-04-24T21:01:53 < kakimir> someone might have quaternion implementation just at hand
2016-04-24T21:02:08 < kakimir> what you doing Rob235?
2016-04-24T21:02:44 < Rob235> trying to see if I can figure out how to use quaternions in my pid controller
2016-04-24T21:04:43 < Steffanx> Fancy tools you have there kakimir.
2016-04-24T21:04:46 < Steffanx> but cardboard?
2016-04-24T21:05:06 < kakimir> simulates balsa
2016-04-24T21:05:28 < kakimir> Rob235: what the?
2016-04-24T21:05:46 < kakimir> sounds sophisticated
2016-04-24T21:06:27 < kakimir> Rob235: https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=quanternion%20calculator
2016-04-24T21:06:51 < Steffanx> quater not quanter ;)
2016-04-24T21:07:04 < kakimir> trust the internet calculator
2016-04-24T21:07:07 < kakimir> on everything
2016-04-24T21:08:19 < Simon--> KreAture_: hi! I don't really have governor code. you'd probably have to use blheli or something
2016-04-24T21:08:44 < Steffanx> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2GcdpJiNGfKblpwdC1TWVRkX2M&usp=sharing .. you should do english, so normal people understand it kakimir ;)
2016-04-24T21:08:48 < Simon--> unless you just want a max speed limit
2016-04-24T21:09:39 < Rob235> I feel like it's the end of the semester and I don't want to do anymore work.  This thing is so close to flying and I don't feel like figuring out this last piece
2016-04-24T21:10:03 < kakimir> Steffanx: it's really hard to figure out what things mean
2016-04-24T21:10:24 < kakimir> "moottoriprojekti" - can not comprehende!
2016-04-24T21:11:39 < Steffanx> Je ne parle pas français
2016-04-24T21:11:45 < Rob235> I need a quaternion expert :(
2016-04-24T21:11:52 < kakimir> Simon--: can I have scaled rpm range with fixed maximum in any controller code out there?
2016-04-24T21:12:12 < kakimir> so even the battery voltage varies the output stays the same
2016-04-24T21:12:18 < Steffanx> When you bug jpa- hard enough he will maybe wake up Rob235
2016-04-24T21:12:31 < Rob235> good to know :) thanks
2016-04-24T21:12:50 < Rob235> that was jpa- right?
2016-04-24T21:12:53 < Rob235> yea jpa- :)
2016-04-24T21:16:33 < ReadError> Rob235 did you ever end up making a PCB?
2016-04-24T21:17:15 < Rob235> I'm probably misunderstanding but it seems like you can just divide the target and current quaternions to get the error and pick at point for each motor on the unit circle around the center on the world plane.  then you just rotate this point by the error quaternion and the y value of the new point is a good constant to use when adjusting motors.
2016-04-24T21:17:21 < Rob235> no not yet, saving that for last
2016-04-24T21:21:26 < Rob235> took a nice long break from the project, not as frustrated as I was getting :)
2016-04-24T21:23:15 < Steffanx> and soon it was all for nothing because quadcopters are forbidden :P
2016-04-24T21:23:53 < Rob235> shhh
2016-04-24T21:24:22 < Steffanx> hehe
2016-04-24T21:24:57 < ReadError> Steffanx actually they are passing stuff to make it even better
2016-04-24T21:25:19 < ReadError> I guess going certifications like they do in europe
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2016-04-24T21:31:23 < Rob235> maybe I should just use euler angles for now to get it flying...
2016-04-24T21:31:47 < Lux> sounds like a sensible plan ;)
2016-04-24T21:35:05 < Rob235> since I'll be rewriting it does anyone know a source for a good pid controller
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2016-04-24T21:38:04 < Lux> https://github.com/nano-bio/TempControl/blob/master/src/pid.c
2016-04-24T21:39:20 < Lux> you probably want to use some averaging filter on the d-term though and the output lowpass is prob not really useful either
2016-04-24T21:39:36 < Lux> https://github.com/nano-bio/TempControl/blob/master/src/pid.h
2016-04-24T21:40:08 < Lux> and cutting the negative output values would have to be removed too for a quad
2016-04-24T21:44:01 < ReadError> your talking to a PID LEGEND
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2016-04-24T21:49:05 < Rob235> thanks i'll check it out
2016-04-24T21:52:10 < Lux> Rob235: https://github.com/TauLabs/TauLabs/blob/next/flight/Libraries/math/pid.c
2016-04-24T21:52:12 < Lux> https://github.com/TauLabs/TauLabs/blob/next/flight/Libraries/math/pid.h
2016-04-24T21:52:34 < Lux> that's probably a bit cleaner and more suited for what you want to do
2016-04-24T21:53:01 < Lux> ReadError: ya those cleanflight turds ^^
2016-04-24T21:53:25 < Lux> but the stuff i wrote back then looks totally different from what it evolved into
2016-04-24T21:54:26 < ReadError> for better or worse?
2016-04-24T21:54:27 < Rob235> some seem to incorporate gyro integration and accel stuff how does that work
2016-04-24T21:54:41 < ReadError> apparently boris has some crazy new shit
2016-04-24T21:58:26 < Laurenceb__> there is some nasty simple stuff on my github page
2016-04-24T21:59:01 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Util/dcm_attitude.c
2016-04-24T21:59:08 < Laurenceb__> copied from ardupilot
2016-04-24T22:04:35 < Simon--> kakimir: esc32 will do this
2016-04-24T22:04:52 < kakimir> I know
2016-04-24T22:04:57 < kakimir> I do not have
2016-04-24T22:05:25 < kakimir> but I configured propeller / motor set so that I can run it at full powers
2016-04-24T22:11:00 < Thorn> >lithium ion batteries will still shoot out huge jets of fire even in the vacuum of space. The oxidizer is contained inside, it doesn't need air or oxygen to burn
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2016-04-24T23:12:02 < KreAture_> Simon-- ok, I enabled gov mode on the normal 60 amp hk 4amp ubec ones and it sucks!  It dropped from 4500 rpm to 2800 under load, what sort of gov is that LOL.
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2016-04-24T23:13:47 < kakimir> you propably need to set the rpm?
2016-04-24T23:14:22 < Simon--> well, assuming it's not at 100% duty, a bad one :)
2016-04-24T23:15:45 < Simon--> I probably could implement it, but just haven't sorted out the best way to configure it, etc..
2016-04-24T23:15:50 < Simon--> blheli does have something already iirc
2016-04-24T23:16:07 < Simon--> and I've never actualled used it for the intended purpose (heli)
2016-04-24T23:16:46 < kakimir> all the shiet is made for quads and other modes are not a concern
2016-04-24T23:17:11 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-24T23:17:17 < ReadError> blheli was made for....helis
2016-04-24T23:17:23 < ReadError> and tail motors
2016-04-24T23:18:46 < kakimir> hmm interesting
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2016-04-24T23:32:25 < aandrew> hm, ok so I think I see one of the issues I"m running against
2016-04-24T23:32:36 < aandrew> I've got an EXTI for the conexant's interrupt line
2016-04-24T23:32:55 < aandrew> when that fires I grab the interrupt status over SPI... if I'm in the middle of a SPI transaction when that happens...
2016-04-24T23:33:24 < aandrew> time to defer all spi activity...
2016-04-24T23:36:00 < aandrew> what a shitshow
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2016-04-24T23:47:49 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYpDJw7fThU
2016-04-24T23:47:54 < kakimir> musicspams
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2016-04-25T00:06:17 < Laurenceb__> I wonder what kickstarter think of weapons projects
2016-04-25T00:06:43 < kakimir> are you working the material?
2016-04-25T00:08:54 < Laurenceb__> CNC EDM machine
2016-04-25T00:09:06 < Laurenceb__> for practical Cody Wilson type device
2016-04-25T00:10:03 < kakimir> anyone have interest for stm32 radio-node project?
2016-04-25T00:10:06 < Laurenceb__> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/anarchist-3d-printed-weapons-fanatic-7239138
2016-04-25T00:10:08 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-25T00:10:15 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: its called the sp1ml
2016-04-25T00:10:37 < Laurenceb__> headed by Qasem Soleimani, leader of Iran’s Quds special forces
2016-04-25T00:10:45 < Laurenceb__> lul where is Israel
2016-04-25T00:12:45 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: how about 4355
2016-04-25T00:13:15 < kakimir> http://www.findchips.com/search/SP1ML what are these prices
2016-04-25T00:13:38 < kakimir> http://www.findchips.com/search/si4355 see this
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2016-04-25T00:16:49 < kakimir> just connect X number of those to lpc43xx or so
2016-04-25T00:17:16 < kakimir> have ethernet connectivity
2016-04-25T00:17:17 < qyx> kakimir: I have dome some
2016-04-25T00:17:25 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-25T00:18:12 < qyx> 23:10 < kakimir> anyone have interest for stm32 radio-node project?
2016-04-25T00:18:29 < qyx> but not much documentation so far
2016-04-25T00:19:13 < kakimir> what have you dones?
2016-04-25T00:19:41 < TheSeven> what kind of radio node?
2016-04-25T00:19:52 < qyx> just some solar nodes with stm32f401 and rfm69 radios
2016-04-25T00:20:18 < TheSeven> I'm messing with battery (2xaaa) powered nrf24l01 nodes
2016-04-25T00:20:41 < qyx> much 2.4GHz, not awesome
2016-04-25T00:21:24 < TheSeven> works surprisingly well for my application, I would have expected much worse performance
2016-04-25T00:21:46 < TheSeven> covers the whole house from a single gateway node, that's all that I care about for now ;)
2016-04-25T00:22:07 < qyx> mhm
2016-04-25T00:22:21 < TheSeven> that RFM69 looks somewhat similar to the CC1101?
2016-04-25T00:22:46 < Thorn> what happens when you use a microwave oven
2016-04-25T00:23:31 < Thorn> does it still work?
2016-04-25T00:23:38 < TheSeven> Thorn: haven't tried if that has any effect, but I don't need realtime comms anyway, my application can live with reaching each node a few times a day, and I barely have any packet loss on average
2016-04-25T00:23:55 < kakimir> qyx: any pics?
2016-04-25T00:25:50 < qyx> kakimir: not much, wait
2016-04-25T00:25:52 < qyx> http://qyx.krtko.org/projects/qnode4/
2016-04-25T00:26:09 < qyx> works quite well, not much to screw up
2016-04-25T00:26:24 < qyx> although I forgot to connect the IRQ line, so the radio is usable in polling mode only
2016-04-25T00:26:45 < qyx> and the step-up converter is not suited for solar charging, no mppt
2016-04-25T00:28:07 < kakimir> I'm thinking of something with at least 2 directional antennas with seperate radios
2016-04-25T00:28:28 < kakimir> to cover distances
2016-04-25T00:28:53 < qyx> I am planning to do a radio devel board with multiple radio module footprints
2016-04-25T00:29:03 < qyx> like 5 different footprints for hoperf modules
2016-04-25T00:29:06 < kakimir> throw them all to it?
2016-04-25T00:29:09 < qyx> and F411
2016-04-25T00:29:15 < kakimir> everything you get from ebay
2016-04-25T00:29:28 < qyx> http://i.imgur.com/ca03E4L.jpg
2016-04-25T00:29:34 < qyx> those are with RFM69s
2016-04-25T00:29:35 < zyp> sup?
2016-04-25T00:29:42 < TheSeven> "step-up converter for solar charging (no MPPT), accepts voltages of up to about 4V" - how does that work without being mppt? some fixed duty cycle or fixed output voltage/current approach?
2016-04-25T00:29:51 < zyp> I've been away from irc for a couple of days, did I miss anything interesting?
2016-04-25T00:30:21 < qyx> TheSeven: just stepup to 4.5V and then linear lipo charging controller
2016-04-25T00:30:38 < qyx> fixed voltage, then CCCV linear charger
2016-04-25T00:30:44 < TheSeven> ok, so it will basically fail to work below a sufficient light level to reach that output voltage
2016-04-25T00:30:53 < qyx> yep
2016-04-25T00:31:00 < qyx> fairly suboptimal
2016-04-25T00:31:06 < qyx> but for those power levels acceptable
2016-04-25T00:31:13 < qyx> anyway, have to go, gn
2016-04-25T00:31:18 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NXP-LPC-LPC4357-Development-Board-LPC4357JET256-ARM-Cortex-M4-M0-Dual-Core-Kit-/251401150673 I wonder if there is inexpensive source for such things
2016-04-25T00:31:42 < kakimir> I rather not do that stuff myself anymore
2016-04-25T00:31:48 < kakimir> just throw modules to board
2016-04-25T00:31:50 < TheSeven> any particular reason for the MCP9808?
2016-04-25T00:31:59 < TheSeven> vs. e.g. Si7021
2016-04-25T00:37:08 < Laurenceb__> anyone know how to generate fft of an equation in ltspice?
2016-04-25T00:37:24 < Laurenceb__> e.g. fft(v(n001)-v(n002))
2016-04-25T00:45:11 < TheSeven> my current eval board of a wireless temperature sensor node: http://imgur.com/a/w2TDp
2016-04-25T00:45:51 < TheSeven> projected battery life is about 3-5 years depending on battery quality and radio interactions
2016-04-25T00:46:10 < TheSeven> measures temperature and humidity every 10 seconds and stores the data to flash (which can later be downloaded via radio)
2016-04-25T00:46:14 < kakimir> it seems litarally everyone have made some sort of radio node
2016-04-25T00:46:27 < kakimir> that transmits temperature or such
2016-04-25T00:47:59 < TheSeven> kinda crappy construction with that "mezzanine" sensor board
2016-04-25T00:48:14 < TheSeven> if I need a larger quantity of those, I'll have to make a dedicated PCB for that
2016-04-25T00:48:26 < TheSeven> right now it's just breakouts stacked on top of each other
2016-04-25T00:48:41 < TheSeven> MCU is an f030f4p6, cheapes thing ever
2016-04-25T00:49:16 < kakimir> you need to snugly fit that somewhere
2016-04-25T00:49:24 < kakimir> because made small
2016-04-25T00:49:34 < kakimir> and streamlined
2016-04-25T00:49:44 < TheSeven> what surprised me is that using radio modules with a power amplifier (200mA current during TX instead of 15mA or so), which increase range significantly, would only increase the average power consumption by a factor of 2
2016-04-25T00:50:35 < TheSeven> and that's with live data transmissions every 3 seconds!
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2016-04-25T00:52:47 < TheSeven> that's one of the advantages of the high data rates that you can do on 2.4GHz
2016-04-25T00:52:52 < TheSeven> (I'm using 1mbit/s)
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2016-04-25T00:54:52 < zyp> TheSeven, to me that sounds like it's using a lot of power when it's not sending
2016-04-25T00:54:54 < zyp> listening?
2016-04-25T00:55:53 < TheSeven> mostly the MCU
2016-04-25T00:56:00 < TheSeven> data retention + RTC
2016-04-25T00:56:22 < TheSeven> average current (without power amplifier) is 22µA as far as I can tell
2016-04-25T00:56:28 < TheSeven> baseline sleep current is around 7µA
2016-04-25T00:56:56 < TheSeven> burst current during TX/RX (every 3 seconds) is around 20000µA
2016-04-25T00:58:02 < TheSeven> so it seems to be awake for around 2ms every 3 seconds on average
2016-04-25T00:58:16 < TheSeven> that's also including the temperature/humidity measurements and flash writes
2016-04-25T00:58:58 < kakimir> can I use comparison operators for char type?
2016-04-25T00:59:03 < TheSeven> yes
2016-04-25T01:00:17 < TheSeven> zyp: don't think I can shave much off that
2016-04-25T01:01:29 < TheSeven> I do need to verify my measurement method though - measuring these tiny (but spiky) currents is a bit tricky
2016-04-25T01:02:11 < zyp> TheSeven, oh, so <.01% duty
2016-04-25T01:02:16 < zyp> fair enough then
2016-04-25T01:03:06 < TheSeven> I'm basically sending beacon packets every few seconds with a very brief listening periods afterwards, during which the gateway could respond to keep the node awake
2016-04-25T01:05:07 < TheSeven> I have a feeling that something can't be quite right about the current measurement with the big radio
2016-04-25T01:08:25 < TheSeven> then again the radio would be transmitting for about 160µs every 3 seconds, so about 10µA average at 200mA burst
2016-04-25T01:08:57 < TheSeven> guess it wins by keeping the power amplifier off while the PLLs are settling
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2016-04-25T01:24:41 < kakimir> can filter cap kill you?
2016-04-25T01:24:53 < kakimir> 230V
2016-04-25T01:27:00 < TheSeven> kinda depends on what you do with it
2016-04-25T01:27:06 < TheSeven> I'd tend to say unlikely but not impossible
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2016-04-25T01:27:58 < TheSeven> is this a valid approach for determining average battery current? http://i.imgur.com/UMbKKQh.png
2016-04-25T01:29:22 < TheSeven> kakimir: I'm aware of at least 3 times that I touched both live 230V mains and neutral at the same time as a child :P
2016-04-25T01:30:03 < TheSeven> or wait, it was earth, not neutral
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2016-04-25T01:30:58 < TheSeven> took me a while to figure out that this was actually an electric shock - it felt like I got the shock from earth, but that's just because I touched live more firmly (and without even knowing)
2016-04-25T01:31:37 < kakimir> one of my relatives pulled broken transformer leads out of socket - actually tried to
2016-04-25T01:31:40 < kakimir> with 2 hands
2016-04-25T01:31:50 < TheSeven> ouch, that's bad
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2016-04-25T01:31:57 < TheSeven> I had both in the same hand
2016-04-25T01:32:11 < kakimir> I didn't believe he did it
2016-04-25T01:32:23 < kakimir> and didn't believe he didn't die or anything
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2016-04-25T01:33:02 < TheSeven> I think the worst shock that I ever got was actually from an inductor discharging through me
2016-04-25T01:33:15 < TheSeven> breaking a current through a huge inductor with both hands is a very bad idea
2016-04-25T01:34:44 < TheSeven> no idea how much current was going through it - I'd guess a couple hundred mA - and that beast had several henrys!
2016-04-25T01:35:28 < kakimir> worst shock I have ever got when I was child and butt some 12volt connector to my mouth
2016-04-25T01:35:35 < TheSeven> that one hurt MUCH worse than the mains shocks
2016-04-25T01:35:57 < TheSeven> oh, the old trick for testing 9v batteries :P
2016-04-25T01:36:19 < TheSeven> that feels completely different though
2016-04-25T01:36:24 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-25T01:36:32 < kakimir> sparkling feeling
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2016-04-25T01:37:20 < kakimir> electric taste
2016-04-25T01:37:24 < TheSeven> it's kinda funny what you can feel though
2016-04-25T01:37:52 < kakimir> then it's a big shock when you get that feeling in mouth and do not actually have electrodes in mouth
2016-04-25T01:38:01 < TheSeven> AC as little as about 15V, if you touch a pokey wire end or probe or something
2016-04-25T01:40:23 < BrainDamage> it's not the voltage alone of the capacitor
2016-04-25T01:40:31 < BrainDamage> the energy inside it also matters
2016-04-25T01:40:51 < BrainDamage> few tens of J can stop a heart if you take it in the wrong moment or you have existing conditions
2016-04-25T01:41:20 < TheSeven> it's also highly dependent on where it actually goes through
2016-04-25T01:41:48 < TheSeven> can you even possibly kill yourself by touching mains with just one hand?
2016-04-25T01:42:31 < BrainDamage> depends on loooots of things
2016-04-25T01:42:46 < BrainDamage> the return path would be mostly capactive coupling
2016-04-25T01:42:51 < BrainDamage> good luck on estimating that
2016-04-25T01:43:52 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: http://static.ylilauta.org/files/d8/orig/lq1zr86t/aika%20kuluu.jpg
2016-04-25T01:44:56 < kakimir> is lauranceB actually sleeping this time of day so he can trolls at 2AM london time with dongs-san?
2016-04-25T01:44:56 < BrainDamage> btw for reference
2016-04-25T01:45:17 < BrainDamage> a defibrillator can contain ~100J
2016-04-25T01:45:42 < BrainDamage> and can stop a heart easily
2016-04-25T01:47:35 < kakimir> will if misused
2016-04-25T01:50:54 < Laurenceb__> working on my kickstarter
2016-04-25T01:51:14 < Laurenceb__> desktop EDM based machine gun manufacturing system
2016-04-25T01:51:25 < Laurenceb__> for my best Cody Wilson impression
2016-04-25T01:52:51 < Laurenceb__> although actually I'm just working on something to rifle tubes
2016-04-25T01:52:55 < Laurenceb__> for my rockoon
2016-04-25T01:54:29 < Laurenceb__>  causing Trump observers from BuzzFeed to National Review to take notice
2016-04-25T01:54:34 < Laurenceb__> stopped reading there
2016-04-25T01:54:39 < Laurenceb__> I'm in the UK
2016-04-25T01:55:04 < Laurenceb__> also I'm actually just machining aluminium tubes with rifling
2016-04-25T01:55:30 < Laurenceb__> dude I'm joking
2016-04-25T01:55:41 < Laurenceb__> just saying, this would be the way to do ghost gunner properly
2016-04-25T01:57:35 < Laurenceb__> I dont see why
2016-04-25T01:57:54 < Laurenceb__> just linea actuator, rotary actuator and a power supply
2016-04-25T01:58:02 < Laurenceb__> and it could rifle any barrel
2016-04-25T01:58:23 < Laurenceb__> 2 axis CNC EDM machine
2016-04-25T02:00:45 < Laurenceb__> heh
2016-04-25T02:01:10 < Laurenceb__> here in UK you can do what you want as long as you don't actually have a functional firearm
2016-04-25T02:01:16 < Laurenceb__> US laws get silly
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2016-04-25T02:35:01 < wbraun> does anyone know of a open source linker file for the stm32f0?
2016-04-25T02:35:42 < wbraun> My old linker file was causing issues. The ones included with the STM32 libraries works, but does not have an open licence and I want to be able to have my project on github
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2016-04-25T03:04:15 < wbraun> Can I just extract their linker script?
2016-04-25T03:04:27 < wbraun> I really dont want to start messing with libraries again
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2016-04-25T03:13:44 < wbraun> hurm. Looking through the linker files was less helpful than I hope
2016-04-25T03:13:47 < wbraun> *hoped
2016-04-25T03:13:57 < wbraun> none of the files seem to have descriptive names
2016-04-25T03:17:28 < wbraun> there are around 50 files ending in .ld
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2016-04-25T03:19:17 < wbraun> I guess I want the one in /arm/
2016-04-25T03:21:12 < wbraun> this looks nothing like the other two linker scripts I have
2016-04-25T03:21:33 < dongs> no,, you probably want one in /gcc/
2016-04-25T03:21:46 < Laurenceb__> actually
2016-04-25T03:21:58 < dongs> wbraun: there's a shitload of ST linker scripts on shithub
2016-04-25T03:22:00 < Laurenceb__> an opensource EDM driver would be an idea
2016-04-25T03:22:01 < dongs> without any license worries
2016-04-25T03:22:06 < dongs> Laurenceb__: electronic dance music?
2016-04-25T03:22:09 < Laurenceb__> beerware
2016-04-25T03:22:10 < Laurenceb__> lul
2016-04-25T03:22:17 < Laurenceb__> electric discharge machining
2016-04-25T03:22:25 < dongs> ah that
2016-04-25T03:22:41  * Laurenceb__ is reading papers on EDM driving
2016-04-25T03:22:47 < wbraun> ooh, found one with an open licence: https://github.com/szczys/stm32f0-discovery-basic-template/tree/master/Device/ldscripts
2016-04-25T03:22:48 < Laurenceb__> without a good driver it sucks
2016-04-25T03:23:21 < Laurenceb__> you get like a 100 times increase in erosion rate and 1000 times less electrode wear with optimal driver
2016-04-25T03:23:25 < wbraun> the issue is that most of them are not freely licenced and the repo owner is in violation of the licence
2016-04-25T03:23:27 < Laurenceb__> kickstarter tiem
2016-04-25T03:23:36 < Laurenceb__> wbraun: shit nobody cares about
2016-04-25T03:23:48 < wbraun> I guess that one works. I should see what is wrong with my current one.
2016-04-25T03:23:57 < Laurenceb__> copypaste and dont give a shit
2016-04-25T03:23:57 < wbraun> where sprintf does not work
2016-04-25T03:24:02 < Laurenceb__> sprintf wtf
2016-04-25T03:24:14 < Laurenceb__> I use rfprintf cuz I want some flash left
2016-04-25T03:24:56 < dongs> wbraun: Copyright RAISONANCE 2005
2016-04-25T03:25:06 < dongs> that's from ancient STM commercial toolchain
2016-04-25T03:25:07 < Laurenceb__> delete delete delete
2016-04-25T03:25:25 < dongs> Common part of the linker scripts for STR71x devices in FLASH mode
2016-04-25T03:25:26 < dongs> haha
2016-04-25T03:25:36 < wbraun> oh lol. That one is the same as the one I currently have
2016-04-25T03:25:43 < wbraun> which I got from a friend
2016-04-25T03:25:53 < wbraun> there just removed the licence info....
2016-04-25T03:26:03 < wbraun> so that one will not work either…
2016-04-25T03:26:06 < wbraun> back to square 1
2016-04-25T03:26:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/ethernet-enc-tcp-chat/
2016-04-25T03:27:39 < wbraun> so compared to the one which shall not be posted, my script is missing *(.eh_frame)
2016-04-25T03:27:43 < wbraun> what exacly is that?
2016-04-25T03:28:04 < wbraun> I found another one which may work: https://github.com/rgrover/stm32f0-discovery/blob/master/startup/stm32f0.ld
2016-04-25T03:28:20 < Laurenceb__> holy shit new zealand
2016-04-25T03:28:27 < Laurenceb__>  "earthships "
2016-04-25T03:28:39 < Laurenceb__> you have to pay to build them for people
2016-04-25T03:28:41 < Laurenceb__> wtf
2016-04-25T03:31:28 < Laurenceb__> why didn't I come up with this idea
2016-04-25T03:31:44 < Laurenceb__> charge people to work as my slaves, for "da lurning xperience"
2016-04-25T03:32:31 < lorenzo> Am a male 6.1ft tall. Honest, discipline, and straightforward person and always make sure things are done at the right way and at the right time
2016-04-25T03:32:46 < dongs> sounds liek a freelancer profile
2016-04-25T03:32:49 < lorenzo> lol sounds like a request to join the mafia
2016-04-25T03:33:40 < Laurenceb__> sounds like an application to work for earthship
2016-04-25T03:37:02 < wbraun> I wonder how many freelancer projects are people trying to get class assignments done for them
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2016-04-25T03:44:05 < Laurenceb__> how do I bricklaying
2016-04-25T03:46:16 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYAybBHaJLc
2016-04-25T03:46:46 < dongs> looks lke something Laurenceb__ would dickstart
2016-04-25T03:48:40 < Laurenceb__> lulwut
2016-04-25T03:48:46 < Laurenceb__> seriously
2016-04-25T03:51:47 < Laurenceb__> still less stupid than earthship
2016-04-25T03:52:04 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Route-PCB-based-existing-schematic/
2016-04-25T03:52:08 < dongs> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=diccups
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2016-04-25T04:03:50 < wbraun> why is everything on freelancer so bad / depressing? -.-
2016-04-25T04:06:58 < wbraun> I dont worry about the cheating aspect of it. They will just fail all their job interviews
2016-04-25T04:07:45 < wbraun> someone is trying to buy a final project for a class or something I assume: https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Design-project-MPLAB/
2016-04-25T04:07:58 < wbraun> how do you get to this point? O.o
2016-04-25T04:09:23 < dongs> im gonna guess that guy is re-posting someoner elses project that he took
2016-04-25T04:09:30 < dongs> that he cant do
2016-04-25T04:11:23 < wbraun> also, its depressing how little the bids are for
2016-04-25T04:11:31 < dongs> race to the bottom
2016-04-25T04:11:37 < wbraun> How can you make a decent living off most of those things in a first world country?
2016-04-25T04:11:51 < dongs> you don't, thats why nobody from 1st world countries bids
2016-04-25T04:11:58 < dongs> all the $5 bids are from like india/shithole
2016-04-25T04:12:20 < wbraun> I wonder how abysmal the quality of work is for most of the projects
2016-04-25T04:13:44 < dongs> have you seen the mobilephone "project" that got posted on there?
2016-04-25T04:13:51 < dongs> i tweeted in here few weeks ago
2016-04-25T04:14:15 < dongs> someone asked: add pullups to i2c and bypass capacitors
2016-04-25T04:14:16 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/GtaWyVR.png
2016-04-25T04:14:27 < dongs> so they added 1206 0.1uF caps on both sides of the board, everywehre
2016-04-25T04:15:06 < wbraun> whut
2016-04-25T04:15:33 < wbraun> why would they get that far and then post it to freelancer in the first place?
2016-04-25T04:15:44 < dongs> beacuse it was that far on freelancer in the first place
2016-04-25T04:15:56 < wbraun> That board has some escaped BGA
2016-04-25T04:16:02 < dongs> the original schematic + Layout (at least what was posted) was fucking awful
2016-04-25T04:16:09 < dongs> mistakes everywehre
2016-04-25T04:16:12 < wbraun> and then 1206 caps shitted on to all the free board space
2016-04-25T04:16:55 < wbraun> its like dunning kruger dialed up to 11
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2016-04-25T04:17:18 < wbraun> how can you even understand how the PCB layout software works and be that stupid about it?
2016-04-25T04:18:02 < dongs> the i2c "pullups" they did were even better
2016-04-25T04:18:08 < dongs> the soc had like 6 I2C buses
2016-04-25T04:18:11 < dongs> so tehy just shorted them all ogether
2016-04-25T04:18:15 < dongs> and to 3.3V
2016-04-25T04:18:27 < dongs> but anyway, that didnt e ven matter, the rest of the schema was garbage anyhow
2016-04-25T04:18:53 < wbraun> at least I dont have to worry about competition from thes people
2016-04-25T04:19:11 < wbraun> actually, I want to be in competition with these people for $$. That sounds great
2016-04-25T04:20:36 < dongs> i'm guessing for the few non-paki-reposting-proejct-tehy-cant-complete jobs on tehre there's maybe like 5% or so of not idiots who actually expect to get shit done
2016-04-25T04:20:45 < dongs> but then some paki will bid $100 and fail miserably
2016-04-25T04:21:19 < wbraun> well, not on this market
2016-04-25T04:21:34 < Laurenceb__> wtf is that board
2016-04-25T04:21:43 < wbraun> it makes me feel great about globalism though\
2016-04-25T04:21:46 < dongs> Laurenceb__: some MTK1488 phone Soc + junk
2016-04-25T04:22:22 < Laurenceb__> O_o
2016-04-25T04:22:25  * Laurenceb__ zzz
2016-04-25T04:22:32 < wbraun> where does money flow in / out of this whole system though?
2016-04-25T04:24:55 < wbraun> surely there must some competent people overseas though
2016-04-25T04:25:18 < wbraun> considering working things are designed there
2016-04-25T04:26:06 < wbraun> is every freelancer website doomed to become a cesspool?
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2016-04-25T04:52:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Android/project-10313702/ lmao... a complete device with nRF52832 + size requirements + app to go with it for $250
2016-04-25T04:53:07 < dongs> and there's fucking pakis bidding
2016-04-25T04:53:28 < dongs> thats a $5k project easy including prototyping  + development
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2016-04-25T05:23:46 < dongs> lol @ username
2016-04-25T05:23:55 < dongs> for crt
2016-04-25T05:24:56 < dongs> in my chats, yes
2016-04-25T05:25:04 < dongs> he appears to still be here
2016-04-25T05:25:57 < dongs> less noise, more stm32, sounds like a win
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2016-04-25T06:12:13 < wbraun> the silly freelancer projects, surely the manufacture cost for these things is greater than what they are trying to pay
2016-04-25T06:12:20 < wbraun> is makes no sense
2016-04-25T06:13:02 < dongs> no kidding
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2016-04-25T06:33:58 < dongs> ahahahaha
2016-04-25T06:34:01 < dongs> THE BGA PROJECT IS BACK
2016-04-25T06:34:03 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-Modification/
2016-04-25T06:34:42 < dongs> haha @ budget
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2016-04-25T06:35:40 < dongs> wbraun: beep
2016-04-25T06:35:44 < PeterM> $50? fuck, i probbaly lost money just reading the freelancer post
2016-04-25T06:35:48 < dongs> the 1206 bga project is back https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-Modification/
2016-04-25T06:36:51 < dongs> and yeah
2016-04-25T06:36:52 < dongs> the poster is https://www.freelancer.com/u/LeoTheFreelancer.html
2016-04-25T06:36:58 < dongs> he's been trying to get this done for months
2016-04-25T06:37:15 < dongs> he has 3d renders of that dumbboard in his "portfolio"
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2016-04-25T06:44:51 < dongs> hahahah
2016-04-25T06:44:57 < dongs> the paki from yesterday removed all his projects
2016-04-25T06:45:09 < dongs> finally he got  the idea its not gonnana work
2016-04-25T06:50:30 < PeterM> oh, odngs
2016-04-25T06:50:32 < PeterM> dongs
2016-04-25T06:50:34 < PeterM> even
2016-04-25T06:50:38 < PeterM> the pink leds
2016-04-25T06:50:40 < dongs> ya
2016-04-25T06:50:41 < PeterM> hoiw were they
2016-04-25T06:50:47 < dongs> very fucking pink
2016-04-25T06:50:55 < dongs> im putting htem on a board thats coming here in 2-3 days
2016-04-25T06:51:06 < dongs> but i hooked up to smps and powered up, was super pretty
2016-04-25T06:51:33 < PeterM> i fuckin said they were pink ey, they look kinda odd when not powered because orange phosphor
2016-04-25T06:52:00 < PeterM> but yeah, really nice looking leds
2016-04-25T06:53:38 < dongs> oh WOw
2016-04-25T06:53:40 < dongs> Account Closed
2016-04-25T06:53:40 < dongs> Account of PlTNN has been closed.
2016-04-25T06:53:41 < dongs> LOL
2016-04-25T06:53:47 < dongs> i trolled him so good he even closed his feelancer account
2016-04-25T06:54:06 < PeterM> KEK
2016-04-25T06:56:00 < dongs> need to add  this to my porfolio asap
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2016-04-25T06:57:37 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/loi09dt1.html
2016-04-25T06:57:43 < dongs> should hire this guy for my veriblog proj
2016-04-25T06:57:47 < dongs> instead of making it myself
2016-04-25T06:58:50 < PeterM> >singapore
2016-04-25T06:58:55 < PeterM> so not a broke ass paki
2016-04-25T06:58:57 < dongs> singapoor
2016-04-25T06:58:57 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-25T07:00:43 < dongs> haha smatphone.com (the site for that dumb phone thing hes trying to feelance) is ifnally expired
2016-04-25T07:01:36 < PeterM> >smat
2016-04-25T07:01:39 < dongs> yes
2016-04-25T07:03:34 < dongs> hjmm
2016-04-25T07:03:42 < dongs> i coulda sworn i saw that site up last time i clicked it few months ago
2016-04-25T07:03:47 < dongs> but archive.org disagrees
2016-04-25T07:03:52 < dongs> it has been parked domain for a while
2016-04-25T07:04:31 < dongs> absolutely awful product name
2016-04-25T07:04:56 < dongs> ophoh
2016-04-25T07:05:09 < dongs> it was this http://www.smatfone.com/
2016-04-25T07:05:15 < dongs> still up
2016-04-25T07:07:02 < wbraun> we need to create a stupid freelancer project website
2016-04-25T07:07:10 < dongs> no
2016-04-25T07:07:11 < wbraun> I know there is one for shitty kickstarter projects
2016-04-25T07:07:19 < dongs> you just rss feed *.* from freelancer.com
2016-04-25T07:07:25 < dongs> don't even need to moderate it
2016-04-25T07:07:37 < dongs> stupid by default
2016-04-25T07:08:25 < dongs> http://media.wix.com/ugd/91bb0e_1cf717323b6d49be9e3f486ed296c96b.pdf
2016-04-25T07:08:26 < dongs> ahaha
2016-04-25T07:08:28 < dongs> they're still on schedule
2016-04-25T07:08:32 < dongs> deliveries july 2016
2016-04-25T07:08:48 < dongs> august 2015: that malaysian leo the freelancer starts trying to figure out what hte fuck to do
2016-04-25T07:08:58 < dongs> that sounds about the time when i first saw that shit psoted
2016-04-25T07:09:15 < dongs> sept 2015: board filled with 1206 0.1uf caps
2016-04-25T07:09:51 < englishman> lol
2016-04-25T07:09:52 < dongs> SmatFone
2016-04-25T07:09:52 < dongs> Rest of the World Hub
2016-04-25T07:09:52 < dongs> Nigeria, West Africa
2016-04-25T07:09:53 < dongs> Smatfone.com
2016-04-25T07:09:59 < englishman> im glad you found yoru 2016 zano
2016-04-25T07:10:03 < dongs> haha
2016-04-25T07:10:32 < wbraun> they are trying to design an entire phone on freelancer? O.o
2016-04-25T07:11:13 < dongs> Shenzhen Anli touch Panel
2016-04-25T07:11:15 < dongs> nice
2016-04-25T07:11:17 < PeterM> nah, they're trying to get a poorly enough but custom designed bit of rubish they can use as a prototype for kickstarter sothey can buy a yacht
2016-04-25T07:13:10 < wbraun> thats the phone that is generating the freelancer stuff?
2016-04-25T07:13:16 < dongs> wbraun: yes
2016-04-25T07:13:22 < wbraun> They are way behind schedule
2016-04-25T07:13:27 < dongs> definitely
2016-04-25T07:13:36 < dongs> prototypes in december didnt happen
2016-04-25T07:13:43 < dongs> but they're still on schedule to ship in july tho
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2016-04-25T07:24:15 < dongs> last time i asked my twpal how much he'd charge for routing something like allwhiner A20/A30 + DDR + junk was like $15k for a one-off job
2016-04-25T07:25:08 < englishman> sounds about right
2016-04-25T07:25:28 < PeterM> yeah 20k au seems about what id charge
2016-04-25T07:25:30 < englishman> for small stakes job
2016-04-25T07:27:48 < dongs> Member since August, 2015
2016-04-25T07:27:56 < dongs> < dongs> august 2015: that malaysian leo the freelancer starts trying to figure out what hte fuck to do
2016-04-25T07:28:00 < dongs> make sense
2016-04-25T07:28:03 < dongs> dick = leo the freelancer
2016-04-25T07:28:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/LeoTheFreelancer.html
2016-04-25T07:29:11 < dongs> https://twitter.com/smatfone_
2016-04-25T07:29:38 < dongs> stil triyng to find what crowdfailing they actually used
2016-04-25T07:35:18 < dongs> hm its probly not on g oogle if it was a failed dickstarter
2016-04-25T07:38:37 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mymiggo/pictar-probably-the-best-iphone-camera-grip-ever-b
2016-04-25T07:40:53 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/udoo/udoo-x86-the-most-powerful-maker-board-ever?ref=category
2016-04-25T07:40:57 < dongs> man these fucking useless shitboards
2016-04-25T07:41:25 < englishman> 42 days left, isnt that shit old as balls
2016-04-25T07:41:57 < dongs> ujew did some dumb asddroid thing with allwinner years ago
2016-04-25T07:42:09 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599725696/arcano-midi-nes-chiptune-synth-2-classic-nintendo?ref=category
2016-04-25T07:42:18 < englishman> heres some shit running donateflight https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-atom-the-ultimate-micro-drone#/
2016-04-25T07:43:01 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/644653534/slash-the-next-level-of-affordable-professional-3d?ref=category another FORM1 clone
2016-04-25T07:43:05 < dongs> they're not even trying
2016-04-25T07:47:13 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/caruca/caruca-a-single-rider-electric-golf-scooter-cart?ref=category
2016-04-25T07:47:16 < dongs> $20k goal
2016-04-25T07:49:01 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1016888755/multiboot-i-front-bay-selector-of-4-disks-x4-your?ref=category haha
2016-04-25T07:49:12 < dongs> what the fuck is that even
2016-04-25T07:50:08 < dongs> do people even use computers with drive bays anymore
2016-04-25T07:50:47 < dongs> englishman: you didnt think of this first https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dronerafts/waterstrider-perfect-footage-confident-landings-an?ref=category
2016-04-25T07:51:21 < englishman> cuz notbeingashithead101 tells me that shit will land upside down 1000% of the time
2016-04-25T07:51:44 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1806738365/freebird-flight-safest-best-performing-weatherproo?ref=category
2016-04-25T07:52:32 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/610/966/6797cbc5cc6ea0ac59001c3d062b1e4d_original.bmp?w=680&fit=max&v=1459231812&auto=format&q=92&s=4201aa5d9b8b7692f3b77eb138720e74
2016-04-25T07:52:35 < dongs> tarducopter
2016-04-25T07:53:42 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2093029763/modee-raspberry-pi3-case-for-industry?ref=category
2016-04-25T07:53:46 < dongs> wellbro
2016-04-25T07:59:50 < englishman> hows winter, crt
2016-04-25T08:00:04 < englishman> did it drop below 30c yet
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2016-04-25T08:00:37 < dongs> "Worst game I've ever played. After first logging into a server I was greeted at the gates of "Welcome to Auschwitz" I was then pushed through the gates by 2 men with rifles and then executed like the defenceless animal I was. This happened in 3 more servers and then I got a refund."
2016-04-25T08:00:39 < englishman> white t shirt nation
2016-04-25T08:00:53 < PeterM> is fuckin cold here
2016-04-25T08:00:57 < PeterM> its like 25c
2016-04-25T08:01:01 < englishman> brr
2016-04-25T08:01:35 < englishman> pretty awful snowshoe weather
2016-04-25T08:01:59 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQW3nPsxrg ending
2016-04-25T08:04:37 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jeffshapiro/arduino-learning-board-15-mini-projects-online-les?ref=category
2016-04-25T08:04:39 < englishman> dongs: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you!
2016-04-25T08:05:43 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/556605837/smartdatecom-dating-has-never-been-smarter?ref=category
2016-04-25T08:08:15 < dongs> so much trash on dickstarter, not even anything good
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2016-04-25T09:27:51 < dongs> sup freelacners
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2016-04-25T09:46:01 < lorenzo> http://hastebin.com/xazimutari.xml
2016-04-25T09:46:07 < lorenzo> haha ##c circlejerk at its best
2016-04-25T09:46:20 < lorenzo> I love that channel, it's like ##stm32 but much worse
2016-04-25T09:47:51 < dongs> laff
2016-04-25T09:48:20 < dongs> pretty sure thers some retarded scripting langauge where "" = Null
2016-04-25T09:49:50 < lorenzo> dongs: php and javascript I think
2016-04-25T09:50:04 < lorenzo> http://php.net/manual/en/types.comparisons.php lol truth table
2016-04-25T09:50:21 < lorenzo> Expression	gettype()	empty()	is_null()	isset()	boolean : if($x)
2016-04-25T09:50:21 < lorenzo> $x = "";	string	TRUE	FALSE	TRUE	FALSE
2016-04-25T09:51:15 < lorenzo> ohsix: he's on 24/7 I think he's some sort of AI experiment
2016-04-25T09:51:26 < lorenzo> like, a neural network wired to the K&R book
2016-04-25T09:54:04 < lorenzo> ohsix: some people are turned on by showing their superiority to random strangers on the internet
2016-04-25T09:54:13 < lorenzo> weird place this interwebs thing
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2016-04-25T09:58:32 < lorenzo> compiz was the effects thing?
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2016-04-25T10:26:49 < upgrdman> dongs, what was the programmer/debugger clone you liked? from tayou or someshit
2016-04-25T10:26:55 < dongs> stm32?
2016-04-25T10:27:00 < dongs> its their jlinkob clone
2016-04-25T10:27:29 < dongs> http://www.hotmcu.com/usbminijtag-jtagswd-debuggeremula%E2%80%8Btor-p-29.html
2016-04-25T10:27:33 < dongs> very pro
2016-04-25T10:27:52 < dongs> ohh discontinued wat
2016-04-25T10:28:00 < dongs> lol  same price WITH CASE
2016-04-25T10:28:04 < dongs> http://www.hotmcu.com/usbminijtagex-jlink-jtagswd-debuggeremula%E2%80%8Btor-p-46.html?cPath=3_25
2016-04-25T10:28:56 < dongs> case one looks kinda gay
2016-04-25T10:31:43 < upgrdman> ohsix, i have one of those
2016-04-25T10:31:54 < upgrdman> i even went super pro and made some pogos for it
2016-04-25T10:31:54 < upgrdman> http://www.farrellf.com/temp/pogo_pin_programmer.jpg
2016-04-25T10:32:06 < upgrdman> but i kinda want a universalish programmer now
2016-04-25T10:32:09 < dongs> i saw that cable on sale
2016-04-25T10:32:11 < dongs> for $80
2016-04-25T10:32:15 < dongs> from some shitty .au place
2016-04-25T10:32:23 < dongs> like literally 6 pogos -> cable -> socket
2016-04-25T10:32:25 < upgrdman> im collecting all sorts of shit and want to consolidate
2016-04-25T10:32:28 < dongs> for some PIC trash
2016-04-25T10:32:50 < upgrdman> ohsix, that'd be nice but not required
2016-04-25T10:33:05 < upgrdman> dongs, ya i just took some rainbow wire and duport connector :)
2016-04-25T10:37:14 < dongs> do you think i can get my visa concierge to look for parts for m e
2016-04-25T10:37:23 < PaulFertser> ohsix: swd is arm-specific debug protocol. jtag is a common low-level standard for boundary scan, plus vendors implement additional proprietary commands for debug. ARM ADI basically describes how to use both as low-level transports.
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2016-04-25T10:39:20 < jpa-> i wonder if SWD is patented, or whether some other manufacturer could implement it
2016-04-25T10:39:33 < dongs> 'some other' you mean other than with arm core?
2016-04-25T10:39:37 < PaulFertser> I think you can't really patent a protocol, can you?
2016-04-25T10:39:41 < jpa-> dongs: yeah
2016-04-25T10:39:54 < PaulFertser> In the EU?
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2016-04-25T10:40:08 < PaulFertser> There's plenty of prior art doing that.
2016-04-25T10:40:11 < PaulFertser> Nope
2016-04-25T10:40:35 < PaulFertser> Right, you got me there
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2016-04-25T10:42:26 < dongs> jpa-: yeah but for what?
2016-04-25T10:42:30 < dongs> what would you do with it outside of arm core
2016-04-25T10:42:45 < dongs> use with AVR????
2016-04-25T10:43:53 < PeterM> dongs oyu could use it for all those pre-programmed pic32mzs you ahve
2016-04-25T10:43:55 < jpa-> with multi-drop SWD it could actually make some sense, but i guess that is not very common anyway
2016-04-25T10:46:20 < dongs> PeterM: dick32 already has ejtag
2016-04-25T10:46:22 < dongs> or at least I hope so
2016-04-25T10:46:26 < dongs> for mips trash
2016-04-25T10:46:41 < PeterM> but isnt jtag moar pins
2016-04-25T10:46:47 < PeterM> than swd
2016-04-25T10:47:15 < dongs> http://downloads.buffalo.nas-central.org/LS2_MIPSel/DevelopmentTools/JTAG/MD00047-2B-EJTAG-SPC-03.10.pdf
2016-04-25T10:47:19 < dongs> doesnt matter
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2016-04-25T11:15:49 < dongs> fuck
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2016-04-25T13:16:51 < karlp> which st doc mentions the actual core rev? I couldn't find it in the datasheet or the refmanual for f7: http://www.keil.com/support/docs/3778.htm
2016-04-25T13:17:37 < zyp> is there a PM for F7?
2016-04-25T13:17:53 < karlp> maybe, new st site is a disaster
2016-04-25T13:18:17 < zyp> doesn't seem like it
2016-04-25T13:18:51 < jpa-> i think the errata mentions it ;)
2016-04-25T13:23:21 < karlp> r0p1, so yeah, would be affected by the single stepping thing, but just lists arm bug ids and refers to arm docs
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2016-04-25T13:45:33 < dongs> crt, what do you think of mackie cr4
2016-04-25T13:46:52 < dongs> what does that do
2016-04-25T13:46:56 < dongs> smoke your line out?
2016-04-25T13:48:08 < dongs> nice
2016-04-25T13:48:18 < dongs> i guess ill find out in a coupel days
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2016-04-25T14:03:15 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Explain-working-design-for-ion/ $1-2 / hour
2016-04-25T14:03:29 < zyp> heh
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2016-04-25T14:12:10 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Expert-Required/
2016-04-25T14:13:17 < dongs> wtf the attached file is complete garbage
2016-04-25T14:13:20 < dongs> some C++ classes in .html files
2016-04-25T14:13:22 < dongs> shift-del
2016-04-25T14:13:42 < dongs> i wonder if there's a way to block paki projects from showing up in listing
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2016-04-25T15:49:36 < ReadError> check the change log???
2016-04-25T15:51:02 < ReadError> idk i dont use
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2016-04-25T16:00:28 < ReadError> fuckoff
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2016-04-25T16:01:57 < ReadError> ur unfunny
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2016-04-25T16:06:46 < PeterM> that time of ReadErrors month maybe?
2016-04-25T16:10:26 < PeterM> i uhh.. i dunno
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2016-04-25T16:15:03 < PeterM> not much, just kickin it, chillin etc
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2016-04-25T16:16:12 < PeterM> missus made a small tampermonkey/greasemonkey script the other day to add the unit price feature back to aliexpress, which is neat
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2016-04-25T17:13:24 < Steffanx> Crt
2016-04-25T17:14:20 < Steffanx> Aint here
2016-04-25T17:14:48 < trepidacious> So... I'm using input capture on TIM2 on an STM32F437 to measure the period of an input (it pulses at somewhere from 0Hz to 1.6MHz). Currently I'm using an interrupt on capture to read the captured count, and do something with it.
2016-04-25T17:15:32 < trepidacious> I can handle interrupts at say 1kHz with no problem. If the input is faster than 1kHz I'm happy to prescale it, but the input channel prescalers are only up to 8x dividers
2016-04-25T17:16:29 < trepidacious> Is there some cunning way of avoiding having the interrupts? Actually all I'm really doing is counting how many pulses I get, and recording the most recent counter value so I can work out the average period for all the counted pulses since the last time I cleared data.
2016-04-25T17:17:26 < trepidacious> Can I use TIM2 as a prescaler, and then pass on the signal at a lower frequency for another timer to capture? I don't think I can do that internally since TRGO only clocks the counter AFAICT, you can't use it to capture?
2016-04-25T17:20:50 < jpa-> trepidacious: why not just make the timer count on the external pulse? if you don't actually care about the period measurement but just want a count
2016-04-25T17:21:14 < trepidacious> jpa-: I do want the period measurement unfortunately
2016-04-25T17:21:16 < jpa-> ok
2016-04-25T17:21:19 < jpa-> maybe use DMA?
2016-04-25T17:21:24 < trepidacious> Ah yeah...
2016-04-25T17:22:03 < trepidacious> I was just thinking maybe I could use the second timer to just count the capture events, that would do one thing that the interrupt does, but DMA might be neater
2016-04-25T17:22:44 < trepidacious> Is there a DMA mode that would make the first captured count go to one address, then the rest of them get overwritten on a second address?
2016-04-25T17:23:22 < jpa-> i don't think so
2016-04-25T17:23:54 < trepidacious> To explain the use-case better, the interrupt basically records the first captured timer value as "start". Then on each subsequent capture it increments a variable "count" and overwrites  "end" variable as the new captured timer value.
2016-04-25T17:24:16 < trepidacious> So then you can just use (end - start)/count to get an average period of the signal
2016-04-25T17:24:37 < trepidacious> when that happens you can reset by setting start to end and count to 0, that starts another averaged period.
2016-04-25T17:24:44 < trepidacious> There may well be a better way of doing that
2016-04-25T17:24:53 < jpa-> if you want to just get average period, take the system time at start, then disable interrupt, and when you want the end, enable the interrupt again?
2016-04-25T17:25:13 < jpa-> (system time being your favourite tick counter or other timer)
2016-04-25T17:25:57 < trepidacious> I guess that wouldn't be too bad, it means that you get the interrupt response time added to the times, I guess that's pretty predictable
2016-04-25T17:26:16 < jpa-> well yeah, if you are doing it with capture currently i guess you could still do it that way
2016-04-25T17:26:29 < jpa-> just that if you only care about first and last interrupt, you can disable the ones in between
2016-04-25T17:26:30 < zyp> use two linked timers, one to count time and another to count events
2016-04-25T17:26:30 < trepidacious> I could do that and also make another timer count the capture events using TRGO
2016-04-25T17:26:41 < trepidacious> yup that was what I was just thinking :)
2016-04-25T17:27:10 < zyp> I believe you can gate one timer on another being enabled, so you'll gate the pulse counter to only count pulses when the time counter is running
2016-04-25T17:27:18 < trepidacious> that would be good
2016-04-25T17:27:43 < zyp> you could even set time counter to one shot mode, so it'll stop after a preset time
2016-04-25T17:28:34 < trepidacious> so I set up interrupt, configure the pulse counter, configure the time counter and then start it. When I get an interrupt, I disable interrupts after storing the start time. Then when I want the period measurement I reenable interrupts, and on interrupt I read the pulse count and end time
2016-04-25T17:28:47 < zyp> what? no
2016-04-25T17:30:07 < trepidacious> I must have missed something...
2016-04-25T17:30:38 < zyp> you don't need to store the start time, you start the timer from 0
2016-04-25T17:31:10 < zyp> no need to use interrupts at all
2016-04-25T17:31:22 < zyp> although you could have one to tell you that the measurement finished
2016-04-25T17:31:36 < trepidacious> By making the first timer start on a pulse?
2016-04-25T17:31:40 < zyp> how do you want to time measurement?
2016-04-25T17:31:59 < zyp> do you want to trigger both start and end of measurement, or do you want it to be a fixed measurement period?
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2016-04-25T17:32:13 < trepidacious> I want the period of an external signal measured using the system clock, essentially
2016-04-25T17:32:30 < Laurenceb_> sup trollz
2016-04-25T17:32:32 < zyp> I thought you said the number of pulses
2016-04-25T17:32:35 < trepidacious> so it might be pulsing at 1MHz approximately, and I want to check every approx. 1ms what the average period was
2016-04-25T17:32:44 < zyp> oh
2016-04-25T17:32:53 < trepidacious> zyp: Well at the moment I'm counting the pulses AND when the first and last pulse happened, in an interrupt
2016-04-25T17:33:10 < zyp> wait
2016-04-25T17:33:19 < zyp> I'm mixing up
2016-04-25T17:33:22 < trepidacious> so I know that say counter was 1232 when the first pulse happened, and that I saw another 13 pulses when the timer was 1552234
2016-04-25T17:33:45 < trepidacious> that lets me get the period pretty accurately, against the 84MHz timer clock
2016-04-25T17:34:13 < trepidacious> (1552234 - 1232)/13
2016-04-25T17:34:22 < zyp> yeah, exactly
2016-04-25T17:34:43 < zyp> so you just want to count pulses and divide by measurement time
2016-04-25T17:35:04 < trepidacious> yup, for measurement time done with timer captures ideally, so that they are exactly correct
2016-04-25T17:35:17 < trepidacious> If I know the timer started exactly on a pulse then I would just need the most recent capture, and how many pulses had happened since the timer started
2016-04-25T17:35:35 < jpa-> trepidacious: what about:  set TIM2 period to approx 1ms; then every time in TIM2 overflow IRQ, enable the capture IRQ; in capture IRQ, calculate  TIM2->CCR1 + TIM2->ARR - previous_ccr1 and disable capture IRQ
2016-04-25T17:35:36 < trepidacious> If I don't know the timer started on a pulse then I need to store that first capture time
2016-04-25T17:35:37 < zyp> you can do that as well, I guess
2016-04-25T17:36:27 < zyp> storing both first and last pulse with DMA is easy enough
2016-04-25T17:37:14 < zyp> just make two dma jobs
2016-04-25T17:37:25 < trepidacious> zyp: Set up a single-transfer DMA for the first, then I could just read the capture register for the last
2016-04-25T17:37:26 < zyp> on separate channels, obviously
2016-04-25T17:37:36 < zyp> yeah, that too
2016-04-25T17:37:52 < trepidacious> jpa-: So TIM2 is running on internal clock, and overflowing every 1ms, plus capturing as well? How would I know how many pulses had happened though, another timer?
2016-04-25T17:37:52 < zyp> but you're not counting pulses that way
2016-04-25T17:38:22 < trepidacious> zyp: Yup I think either of those approaches need a pulse count as well. Plus some way to actually get the pulse count that's right for the capture value I'm reading
2016-04-25T17:38:46 < zyp> I think you could still use the gated timer approach, and just trigger start of the time counter from a pulse
2016-04-25T17:38:48 < jpa-> trepidacious: umm yeah.. i seem to be forgetting parts of the problem :)
2016-04-25T17:39:54 < zyp> trepidacious, but back to my question, how do you know how long you'll measure?
2016-04-25T17:40:12 < zyp> after starting, do you measure for a fixed time or a fixed amount of pulses?
2016-04-25T17:40:19 < zyp> or something else?
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2016-04-25T17:40:39 < trepidacious> zyp: I want to be able to poll for a period, it's actually determined by another process - it knows when to measure
2016-04-25T17:41:03 < trepidacious> zyp: so ideally the period measurement just keeps averaging the period until I poll it, it gives me an average since the last poll and resets
2016-04-25T17:41:08 < zyp> so you want to trigger both start and stop?
2016-04-25T17:41:09 < zyp> right
2016-04-25T17:41:26 < trepidacious> the period measurement should keep running, just reset the running average period measurement
2016-04-25T17:41:43 < jpa-> trepidacious: if you are using CC1 on TIM2, that can be output on TRGO to make another timer count it
2016-04-25T17:41:50 < trepidacious> so I might want to know the period from 1.1s to 2.3s, then from 2.3s to 4.5s, etc. but I don't know in advance when the measurements are needed
2016-04-25T17:42:03 < zyp> hmm
2016-04-25T17:42:15 < trepidacious> jpa-: Yup I was just thinking that - then if the other timer used a prescaler on the TRGO, it could use interrupts
2016-04-25T17:42:26 < zyp> dealing with two running timers sounds like a race problem
2016-04-25T17:42:37 < trepidacious> so I get an interrupt at say 1kHz, and on that interrupt I read the count from the second timer, and the capture from the first
2016-04-25T17:43:01 < trepidacious> yeah my worry would be that the count and the capture wouldn't match up
2016-04-25T17:43:12 < zyp> like, how would you prevent a pulse from occuring between reading time count and reading pulse count?
2016-04-25T17:43:24 < trepidacious> yup exactly
2016-04-25T17:43:29 < zyp> easy to solve if you can stop the timers, hard if you can't
2016-04-25T17:43:39 < jpa-> though probably easiest is just to allocate the 1kB or whatever you need of RAM to get a nice DMA buffer there, and then just subtract (last_dma_val - first_dma_val) / (last_dma_index - first_dma_index)
2016-04-25T17:43:40 < trepidacious> the pulse count would be updating only at a few kHz, so that's ok
2016-04-25T17:43:59 < trepidacious> but the timing timer would be updating faster
2016-04-25T17:44:16 < zyp> jpa-, it's only easy if you know how big the dma job will be
2016-04-25T17:44:22 < trepidacious> jpa-: Yeah, I guess the only disadvantage is using up some DMA bandwidth
2016-04-25T17:44:23 < zyp> otherwise it's still a mess to sync
2016-04-25T17:45:03 < zyp> trepidacious, you don't care about the timer, you just read the captured value
2016-04-25T17:46:39 < emeb> gah - F7 SPI port with mandatory FIFOs on TX and RX paths.
2016-04-25T17:47:05 < emeb> flushing the FIFOs is *required* & makes life interesting.
2016-04-25T17:47:07 < zyp> isn't it same as F3 and the likes?
2016-04-25T17:47:13 < zyp> or is it now a third version?
2016-04-25T17:47:24 < Thorn> what about uarts, did they get fifos?
2016-04-25T17:47:35 < emeb> dunno for sure - doesn't behave the same way that the SPI on my F3 code did.
2016-04-25T17:48:03 < emeb> had to add flushing code on F7, didn't seem to need it on F3
2016-04-25T17:48:22 < trepidacious> zyp: I mean that the captured value might be for a later pulse than the one the interrupt triggered on. So If the second timer is overflowing every 1000 captures of the first timer, I would interrupt on that and then read the number of captures from the second timer, and the most recent capture time from the first timer. but the first timer might capture again in between...
2016-04-25T17:49:53 < jpa-> zyp: well one does not have to even stop the DMA job, just make it ring-buffer and take the count from DMA registers
2016-04-25T17:50:05 < jpa-> the same way one does software FIFO for uart etc.
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2016-04-25T17:50:45 < jpa-> (bonus points for hooking on the TCIF/HTIF so that if pulses come faster than you expect, you can just compute the result more often)
2016-04-25T17:52:14 < trepidacious> So say the input is 1.6MHz, we use 8x divider to get to 200kHz, then we need say 128 words in the DMA buffer to get down to 1.5kHz, 0.5kiB
2016-04-25T17:53:06 < trepidacious> I wonder how significant that is in terms of DMA bandwidth
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2016-04-25T17:55:03 < trepidacious> or I just give up on the averaging, and run one DMA transfer of 2 words every time I want a reading :)
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2016-04-25T18:14:41 < trepidacious> Thanks for help, I'll go have a poke around and see if I can get something going :)
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2016-04-25T18:28:02 < trepidacious> I think I'll set up first timer to capture time on rising edge, and then second timer to count number of first timer captures. Then I won't interrupt at all - I'll just read the two values (first timer capture register, second timer count) alternating to check they are stable - if I get two readings of same capture on either side of one reading of count, the values must match...
2016-04-25T18:28:23 < trepidacious> if I don't get a match, I'll read again until it does match :)
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2016-04-25T19:05:17 < Laurenceb_> http://gfycat.com/RightDeadInchworm
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2016-04-25T19:18:20 < Rob235> wow, covering ws2812b led strips in heatshrink and cutting out the led squares looks great
2016-04-25T19:19:04 < trepidacious> Hm, can't seem to get TIM5 to count captures on TIM2...
2016-04-25T19:21:54 < jpa-> Rob235: photos?
2016-04-25T19:23:59 < Rob235> I just did a test and cut it off, let me finish a real thing of what I'm doing and i'll upload one
2016-04-25T19:24:27 < Steffanx> let me guess: arms of quadcopter
2016-04-25T19:24:28 < Rob235> I'm putting the leds on red and black pieces so it's nice to have them blend in better
2016-04-25T19:24:31 < Rob235> yea
2016-04-25T19:24:34 < Steffanx> ( because you showed pics of that before )
2016-04-25T19:24:45 < Rob235> in the middle of rewiring it
2016-04-25T19:24:59 < Rob235> its actually a hex but same thing
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2016-04-25T19:44:41 < trepidacious> Am I reading this right - I expect this to produce a TRGO pulse every time the timer captures the counter in response to CH1 event: 011: Compare Pulse - The trigger output send a positive pulse when the CC1IF flag is to be set (even if it was already high), as soon as a capture or a compare match occurred. (TRGO)
2016-04-25T19:44:49 < trepidacious> In TIMx_CR2
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2016-04-25T19:49:07 < Rob235> jpa-: I tried heating the heat shrink after cutting out the squares to try to smooth out the slightly jagged cutting and the heat shrink wasn't done shrinking so theres a bit of a gap now but you get the idea: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9wr47oyv3hdjpc/20160425_124636.jpg?dl=0
2016-04-25T19:49:10 < trepidacious> Ah well, I'll look at it tomorrow ;)
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2016-04-25T19:56:58 < Laurenceb_> https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/5971941459603111241.jpg
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2016-04-25T19:58:01 < BrainDamage> are you linking it because everything is a dildo if you're rave enough, or is there some context to it?
2016-04-25T19:58:08 < Sync> wat it do?
2016-04-25T19:58:28 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: is it it?
2016-04-25T19:58:39 < kakimir> the thing?
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2016-04-25T19:59:22 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-25T19:59:28 < Laurenceb_> its the future of everything
2016-04-25T19:59:30 < kakimir> stm32 on it?
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2016-04-25T19:59:51 < kakimir> zero boint energys harvested?
2016-04-25T19:59:52 < Laurenceb_> dunno
2016-04-25T19:59:54 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-25T20:00:00 < Laurenceb_> zero energy confirmed
2016-04-25T20:00:01 < kakimir> confirmed?
2016-04-25T20:00:08 < kakimir> confirmed.
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2016-04-25T20:03:24 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKH6PAoUuD0&feature=player_detailpage#t=331
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2016-04-25T20:05:17 < Laurenceb_> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39772.msg1523402#msg1523402
2016-04-25T20:05:48 < Laurenceb_> why can none of them draw a graph
2016-04-25T20:06:53 < kakimir> I wonder when they fake graph actual thrustinh
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2016-04-25T20:07:54 < kakimir> then scam hard
2016-04-25T20:08:09 < kakimir> collect the big moneyz
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2016-04-25T20:10:59 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZDv2-3HVyI
2016-04-25T20:14:37 < kakimir> who plays micraft
2016-04-25T20:14:57 < kakimir> I played it last time when it was beta
2016-04-25T20:17:07 < Steffanx> last time i played it has not happened yet.
2016-04-25T20:17:10 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXqUL5IU8io
2016-04-25T20:17:26 < kakimir> that is very kood
2016-04-25T20:17:52 < Steffanx> *OLF
2016-04-25T20:17:55 < Steffanx> *OLD
2016-04-25T20:18:12 < kakimir> why cancer videos Laurenceb_
2016-04-25T20:18:14 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-25T20:18:29 < Steffanx> because old. you get then when old
2016-04-25T20:19:45 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2FLQtdZ9Ng this is actually watchable now
2016-04-25T20:20:28 < Steffanx> stuff like that is never watchable.
2016-04-25T20:20:38 < Steffanx> ( why i even click on it )
2016-04-25T20:23:08 < kakimir> LaurenceLinks are back
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2016-04-25T20:47:17 < kakimir> is there a tool to tell if code does unintentional buffer overflows?
2016-04-25T20:47:27 < kakimir> if it can and will do?
2016-04-25T20:47:49 < BrainDamage> there are static code analyzers
2016-04-25T20:48:04 < kakimir> what would you recommend?
2016-04-25T20:49:12 < BrainDamage> i've used http://splint.org/ in the past, not recently tought
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2016-04-25T20:49:26 < kakimir> can you integrate some to eclipse so that one shortcut runs it?
2016-04-25T20:50:33 < BrainDamage> the fuck i should know
2016-04-25T20:51:18 < kakimir> good
2016-04-25T20:53:54 < kakimir> I actually have splint installed..
2016-04-25T20:54:46 < kakimir> and there is plugin
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2016-04-25T21:07:47 < PaulFertser> kakimir: splint is antique, it doesn't even know C99. I suggest you try clang's static checker, it catches plenty of potential problems. Also, if you can run the code on your host, you can enable different runtime "sanitizers" and that's really helpful. Valgrind is cool too, but with the same limitation.
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2016-04-25T21:11:57 < kakimir> runtime?
2016-04-25T21:12:09 < kakimir> sanitizers?
2016-04-25T21:14:56 < kakimir> My code is C99
2016-04-25T21:27:31 < kakimir> I installed CPPChEcplise
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2016-04-25T21:56:02 < kakimir> http://cppcheck.sourceforge.net/
2016-04-25T22:01:14 < kakimir> I butt all the checks on and nothing
2016-04-25T22:01:26 < kakimir> unused funcs and variables
2016-04-25T22:01:53 < kakimir> it has quite large list of checks
2016-04-25T22:09:36 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kN5pVjnmLw musicspan back to 2008
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2016-04-25T22:13:06 < kakimir> should I make type of char* and size_t
2016-04-25T22:13:11 < kakimir> combination
2016-04-25T22:13:19 < kakimir> lesser them parameters
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2016-04-25T22:22:04 < Steffanx> better listen to some good old (new) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8bdEAxFlE
2016-04-25T22:23:37 < Steffanx> @ kakimir
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2016-04-25T22:24:51 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLz7uqCKBI4 is better
2016-04-25T22:25:49 < Steffanx> deep house, nah no thanks
2016-04-25T22:26:11 < Steffanx> Stuff like that makes me restless, so much different stuff at once.
2016-04-25T22:26:26 < Steffanx> such sudden changes
2016-04-25T22:26:48 < kakimir> such out of tempo
2016-04-25T22:27:12 < Thorn> lots of $500 modules in use
2016-04-25T22:27:32 < Thorn> (that must cost $50 to manufacture)
2016-04-25T22:27:32 < Steffanx> and still the result is terrible :P
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2016-04-25T22:58:24 < kakimir> naming contest!
2016-04-25T22:58:40 < kakimir> struct with char* and size_t
2016-04-25T22:59:07  * kakimir rubs his hands together violently
2016-04-25T22:59:40 < ReadError> wtf you rambling on about aspiemir?
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2016-04-25T23:00:58 < kakimir> smart string
2016-04-25T23:01:04 < kakimir> con tain size_T
2016-04-25T23:02:21 < kakimir> StringWSizeType
2016-04-25T23:02:37 < ReadError> you dont make sense
2016-04-25T23:02:50 < kakimir> just give it no imagination - combine things into name
2016-04-25T23:03:16 < ReadError> you are just typing words
2016-04-25T23:03:46 < Steffanx> Peanut, umbrella, bolt.
2016-04-25T23:03:49 < Steffanx> i can do that too.
2016-04-25T23:04:06 < ReadError> Steffanx's words make more sense though
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2016-04-25T23:05:46 < Steffanx> Anyway, you just named it kakimir. Smart string.
2016-04-25T23:07:25 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/D0jKa3yL okay I need to rename my innovation
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2016-04-25T23:07:57 < kakimir> or not
2016-04-25T23:08:03 < kakimir> that is not smart
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2016-04-25T23:19:46 < [7]> if it wouldn't be that crap chip...
2016-04-25T23:20:02 < [7]> I'd rather bear with a f030 instead of that f103
2016-04-25T23:20:28 < ReadError> C8 ?
2016-04-25T23:20:36 < ReadError> better chips avail
2016-04-25T23:20:39 < ReadError> atleast get the CB
2016-04-25T23:20:50 < saph0> the m3 cortex is crap ?
2016-04-25T23:21:08 < saph0> or from that manf. ?
2016-04-25T23:21:13 < [7]> I'm mostly using f030f4p6 for tiny and low-cost stuff, and f042cbt6 for bigger projects
2016-04-25T23:21:32 < [7]> the f1xx pin multiplexing is just a huge mess
2016-04-25T23:21:59 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-25T23:22:00 < kakimir> do you know any MCU modules with at least M3 on board and on board or off board ethernet?
2016-04-25T23:22:08 < kakimir> and inexpensive
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2016-04-25T23:22:16 < kakimir> and good availability?
2016-04-25T23:22:18 < ReadError> kukmir
2016-04-25T23:22:19 < [7]> designing one of those is on my todo list :P
2016-04-25T23:22:25 < ReadError> the new nucleos have ethernet
2016-04-25T23:22:36 < [7]> with f207 + lan8720 or something
2016-04-25T23:22:36 < kakimir> cuckenholm
2016-04-25T23:22:46 < kakimir> you should
2016-04-25T23:23:28 < kakimir> nuckles have excess shiet
2016-04-25T23:23:50 < kakimir> when you want to use it as processor board as part of system
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2016-04-25T23:24:05 < kakimir> not the system as part of processor board
2016-04-25T23:24:26 < [7]> the plan is to include ethernet, usb, an xtal of course, and probably rtc xtal + cr2032 battery on the main board, and have pin headers for all the other pins
2016-04-25T23:24:38 < ReadError> the fuck you talking about?
2016-04-25T23:24:44 < ReadError> excess shit?
2016-04-25T23:26:00 < kakimir> it has some god damn tumour to it's one side
2016-04-25T23:26:07 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NUCLEO-F334R8-STMICROELECTRONICS-DEV-BOARD-32BIT-STM32F334R8-MCU-/351234572899
2016-04-25T23:26:34 < kakimir> it says "not for production use" all over it
2016-04-25T23:27:58 < ReadError> http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/fragment/product_related/rpn_information/board_photo/high-perf_nucleo-144.jpg
2016-04-25T23:30:51 < kakimir> http://www.findchips.com/search/NUCLEO-F446ZE
2016-04-25T23:30:54 < kakimir> quite okay
2016-04-25T23:31:57 < kakimir> concerning that the chip itself is at least 10 per a pop
2016-04-25T23:33:21 < kakimir> what to do with all the tumours?
2016-04-25T23:35:24 < ReadError> I suggest you ask understandable questions
2016-04-25T23:35:32 < ReadError> and try to speak better english
2016-04-25T23:36:05 < kakimir> the debugger
2016-04-25T23:36:12 < ReadError> it breaks off
2016-04-25T23:37:59 < kakimir> it's post-raspberry era.. I think there must be some more attractive option for the same price out there
2016-04-25T23:38:25 < kakimir> gimme more
2016-04-25T23:38:39 < ReadError> no
2016-04-25T23:39:02 < kakimir> but it most likely has some cancerous mobile chip to it that bugs everything
2016-04-25T23:39:13 < kakimir> and is propertary all way
2016-04-25T23:41:42 < Flecks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arj7oStGLkU
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2016-04-25T23:42:54 < kakimir> Inside the mind of master procrastinator there is a constant stream of Ted Talks
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2016-04-26T00:02:06 < kakimir> it's true
2016-04-26T00:02:12 < kakimir> that nucleo is the most
2016-04-26T00:02:40 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-26T00:03:01 < kakimir> can't find anything cortex + ethernet for that price
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2016-04-26T00:09:38 < [7]> hm, I'm wondering what the bom cost for a pcb + stm32f207vg + lan8720 + magnetics + rj45 jack + xtal + 3.3V buck would be
2016-04-26T00:10:01 < [7]> I'd probably add footprints and headers for a dozen other things for convenience, but unpopulated by default
2016-04-26T00:10:49 < [7]> there's this rather dodgy offer if one really wants lowest cost: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F205RBT6-QFP/32365299266.html
2016-04-26T00:11:11 < kakimir> good pirates?
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2016-04-26T00:11:29 < [7]> no idea what's going on there, but this offer has been up for at least half a year
2016-04-26T00:11:31 < ReadError> Function:Darlington Triode
2016-04-26T00:11:33 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-26T00:11:51 < [7]> I hate aliexpress for removing the "sort by price per piece" function
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2016-04-26T00:11:57 < ReadError> not a single order
2016-04-26T00:12:05 < kakimir> hah
2016-04-26T00:12:06 < ReadError> [7]  PeterM 's wife fixed it
2016-04-26T00:12:21 < kakimir> they propably make more money than ever
2016-04-26T00:13:21 < kakimir> after the "error"
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2016-04-26T00:21:32 < [7]> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32490395523.html
2016-04-26T00:21:47 < ReadError> http://pastebin.com/zxAUR7gG
2016-04-26T00:21:57 < ReadError> you need tampermonkey or greasemonkey
2016-04-26T00:22:36 < ReadError> https://snag.gy/n4rIcl.jpg
2016-04-26T00:22:41 < ReadError> click that box to enable
2016-04-26T00:23:30 < [7]> heh they really just removed in the frontend? ;)
2016-04-26T00:23:57 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-26T00:25:31 < kakimir> hacker access
2016-04-26T00:25:49 < kakimir> keep prices down for bros
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2016-04-26T01:17:06 < kakimir> I think CPPCheck does enought
2016-04-26T01:17:23 < kakimir> good integration too
2016-04-26T01:18:10 < kakimir> oh that kind of thing
2016-04-26T01:18:38 < kakimir> better code better
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2016-04-26T01:19:53 < kakimir> better make perfect code
2016-04-26T01:20:14 < kakimir> there is no excuse to use any checks when your code is perfect
2016-04-26T01:23:07 < kakimir> better make the perfect computer then
2016-04-26T01:23:14 < kakimir> shit that fails is shiet
2016-04-26T01:24:08 < ReadError> ohsix, aint shit working on mountainboard
2016-04-26T01:24:27 < kakimir> use such saving method there is always some check and lever after save
2016-04-26T01:24:28 < kakimir> always
2016-04-26T01:24:36 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-26T01:24:52 < kakimir> use mechanical levers
2016-04-26T01:25:37 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4q05resEvc musicsspams
2016-04-26T01:25:58 < [7]> lol http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32562031078.html
2016-04-26T01:27:26 < [7]> this is stm8 :P
2016-04-26T01:29:20 < [7]> too bad that making an stm32f030f4p6 board doesn't really cost me more :P
2016-04-26T01:38:54 < ReadError> the H101 is fun
2016-04-26T01:39:03 < ReadError> it will flip and fly inverted
2016-04-26T01:39:07 < ReadError> and has aftermarket firmwares
2016-04-26T01:52:36 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-26T01:54:17 < ReadError> ehhh guy holding a vhs
2016-04-26T01:54:19 < ReadError> closed
2016-04-26T01:54:44 < kakimir> movie of the day?
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2016-04-26T02:37:48 < ReadError> h8 ya
2016-04-26T02:37:54 < ReadError> few of them do
2016-04-26T02:38:04 < ReadError> the h8 and h101 are nice tho
2016-04-26T02:38:12 < ReadError> lil bigger than cx10
2016-04-26T02:38:23 < ReadError> so more fun since not tinyshit
2016-04-26T02:49:20 < ReadError> ohsix its just so small
2016-04-26T02:49:30 < ReadError> lose orientation if it gets a lil ways away
2016-04-26T02:50:02 < ReadError> yea but i fly acro
2016-04-26T02:50:08 < ReadError> i cant fly headfree
2016-04-26T02:54:08 < ReadError> ohsix yea people do
2016-04-26T02:54:20 < ReadError> on the h8 and h101
2016-04-26T02:58:59 < [7]> ReadError, PeterM: I've improved the script a bit: http://pastie.org/pastes/10812965/text
2016-04-26T02:59:21 < Lux> ohsix: the cx10c is just a cx-10 with a camera module glued on anyway
2016-04-26T02:59:22 < ReadError> whats it do?
2016-04-26T02:59:52 < [7]> adds the quantity range thing and the price per piece checkbox back, sorts by price ascending by default and shows as list by default, and allows text selection again
2016-04-26T02:59:56 < kakimir> how to point to array? how to do what I'm trying to: FixedPointType *array[];
2016-04-26T02:59:58 < Lux> so you are probably better off adding a cam yourself
2016-04-26T03:00:44 < kakimir> just leave [] out and use array like a list?
2016-04-26T03:00:55 < kakimir> array like an array
2016-04-26T03:00:56 < kakimir> *
2016-04-26T03:01:30 < ReadError> [7]  nice just loaded it
2016-04-26T03:01:33 < ReadError> thanks
2016-04-26T03:01:47 < [7]> i.e. fixed all the recently introduced major annoyances
2016-04-26T03:01:57 < [7]> at least the ones that I'm aware of
2016-04-26T03:02:18 < kakimir> thanks ohsix
2016-04-26T03:02:44 < [7]> hmm... might consider removing that fancyness from the keywords and price input fields as well
2016-04-26T03:03:05 < ReadError> i wish ali had a better search
2016-04-26T03:03:08 < ReadError> its pretty shitty
2016-04-26T03:03:18 < [7]> as in search term matching?
2016-04-26T03:03:22 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-26T03:03:34 < [7]> yes, it should really find at least substrings of a word
2016-04-26T03:03:58 < [7]> but I guess that's something that we can't do much about from the client side :/
2016-04-26T03:04:13 < ReadError> yea
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2016-04-26T03:08:09 < kakimir> was coding the same in 1999 than today?
2016-04-26T03:08:35 < kakimir> was there tools available
2016-04-26T03:08:36 < kakimir> ?
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2016-04-26T03:10:27 < kakimir> had that win98
2016-04-26T03:11:36 < Lemming> yes it was the same theoretically
2016-04-26T03:11:42 < Lemming> it was not the same practically
2016-04-26T03:12:40 < kakimir> the programs were shitty back then
2016-04-26T03:12:52 < kakimir> everything just crashed all the time and it was fine
2016-04-26T03:12:58 < kakimir> "fine"
2016-04-26T03:14:47 < Laurenceb> there was less pron so fapping at work wasnt as easy
2016-04-26T03:14:49 < Laurenceb> also no 4chan
2016-04-26T03:15:09 < TheSeven> so about $8 in bom cost for a basic stm32f407vgt6 ethernet board...
2016-04-26T03:15:42 < kakimir> Laurenceb: so the world was better place?
2016-04-26T03:17:02 < TheSeven> I should really do the PCB design for that one day
2016-04-26T03:17:08 < TheSeven> kakimir: what would be your requirements for that?
2016-04-26T03:25:56 < kakimir> oh my
2016-04-26T03:26:02 < kakimir> mind bloww
2016-04-26T03:26:15 < kakimir> TheSeven is [7]
2016-04-26T03:26:55 < TheSeven> yup, nasty ISP keeps disconnecting me every 24h, so I have a different nick every other day :P
2016-04-26T03:28:04 < kakimir> TheSeven: I don't know I'm about to fall a sleep
2016-04-26T03:28:13 < kakimir> nite>
2016-04-26T03:28:16 < TheSeven> kakimir: heh, me as well ;)
2016-04-26T03:28:29 < TheSeven> 2:30 am :P
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2016-04-26T04:05:17 < PeterM> TheSeven, neat
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2016-04-26T04:16:11 < dongs> so fuck
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2016-04-26T04:16:21 < dongs> i picked this long ass molex vertical socket
2016-04-26T04:16:37 < dongs> problem is they wont sell it to me in reels
2016-04-26T04:16:46 < dongs> and nothign else comes close in length
2016-04-26T04:16:52 < dongs> and shit needs to stick out the back of case
2016-04-26T04:17:44 < dongs> me too
2016-04-26T04:25:43 < PeterM> what conn. dongs?
2016-04-26T04:30:15 < Lt_Lemming> TheSeven, I gather that BOM cost is NOT including the chip?
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2016-04-26T04:37:25 < dongs> donging
2016-04-26T04:37:47 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nightworkgames/blackroom-a-new-fps-from-romero-and-carmack
2016-04-26T04:37:57 < dongs> just browsing dickstarter
2016-04-26T04:40:11 < dongs> fuck knows
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2016-04-26T05:43:45 < dongs> http://www.picturesinboxes.com/2014/11/21/suggestion-box/
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2016-04-26T06:06:57 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/STM-Nucleo-programming-with-Mbed/
2016-04-26T06:09:59 < dongs> We will pay in full once the awarded engineer provides us a working example based on our captures of the messages. Please write 'caramel' word in your description so we know you read it all correctly and understand. No copy/paste bids will be considered. We will pay up to 1000 USD.
2016-04-26T06:10:05 < englishman> dongs, are there any scams like jewpad panels but a bit bigger
2016-04-26T06:11:24 < dongs> how big?
2016-04-26T06:11:35 < dongs> there's a few common panels that are 1080piss or wahtever
2016-04-26T06:11:38 < dongs> nothing highrez, no
2016-04-26T06:12:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Sharp-Programming/Find-encryption-auth-algorithm-name/
2016-04-26T06:12:34 < englishman> yeah its more for like connecting to rabeberrypi for dumb <$100 terminal
2016-04-26T06:12:56 < dongs> you should try this jap thing about using hdmi>dp cable from ebay and editing edid
2016-04-26T06:13:00 < dongs> to make rageberry output to ipad3
2016-04-26T06:13:22 < dongs> thats still pretty cheap
2016-04-26T06:13:23 < dongs> anyway
2016-04-26T06:13:29 < englishman> yes, just going to add hobbyking 4500mah battery and 5v reg to get ultimate debian ipad
2016-04-26T06:13:31 < dongs> "quality" chinahdmi > edp board is aroudn 32 bucks
2016-04-26T06:13:46 < dongs> one that goes to 30pin edp (standard) without retarded addon boards and shit
2016-04-26T06:13:56 < dongs> then panels are around 40-60 depending on size/commonness
2016-04-26T06:14:03 < englishman> with fpc tho?
2016-04-26T06:14:05 < dongs> yes
2016-04-26T06:14:11 < dongs> board includes fpc
2016-04-26T06:14:14 < englishman> aha
2016-04-26T06:14:31 < dongs> i got a bunch for some work shit the other day lemem find pix
2016-04-26T06:16:27 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/0E9JVXp.jpg
2016-04-26T06:16:44 < dongs> has that white fpc thats rolled up on the back
2016-04-26T06:16:53 < dongs> ends in standard 30pin ipex thing that fits most 1080p panels
2016-04-26T06:17:07 < englishman> oh those boards are all over the place
2016-04-26T06:17:09 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-26T06:17:12 < englishman> with that rich-something
2016-04-26T06:17:24 < englishman> sometimes even with touchpad shit
2016-04-26T06:17:26 < dongs> most are green tho with a shitty add-on for edp
2016-04-26T06:17:30 < dongs> because they're originaly lvds
2016-04-26T06:17:40 < dongs> makes the board huge and retarded looking
2016-04-26T06:18:13 < dongs> they stack on a small board that does lvds>edp because too lazy to actualyl make it all on a single pcb
2016-04-26T06:19:29 < PeterM> uses 0402 and resistor packs around digital stuff -> still uses soic regulators
2016-04-26T06:19:37 < dongs> yeah thts chian for ytou
2016-04-26T06:19:43 < dongs> and HC49 xtal
2016-04-26T06:19:48 < dongs> and through-hole coils
2016-04-26T06:20:04 < PeterM> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iMXScRvd0Zs/mqdefault.jpg
2016-04-26T06:20:54 < englishman> how do i know which panel goes with which richrage, there are so many
2016-04-26T06:21:47 < PeterM> realtek, not rollrage
2016-04-26T06:21:53 < englishman> realrage
2016-04-26T06:22:06 < PeterM> rageroll
2016-04-26T06:22:07 < dongs> englishman: look at panel datasheet, see if 30pin ipex with standard vesa pinout, then its ok
2016-04-26T06:22:32 < dongs> or buy a set from jews on ebay/wahtever
2016-04-26T06:23:11 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Linux-guru-for-remote-teaching-10322516/ job 4 ohsix
2016-04-26T06:23:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Design-simple-PCB-for-automatic/ stoner trying to makeaa grow lights on the cheap
2016-04-26T06:25:07 < englishman> hmm not too attractiev anymore, with cheap 1080shit lcds being $99 at jewegg
2016-04-26T06:26:07 < dongs> lewl
2016-04-26T06:26:17 < PeterM> englishman, dicksgusting http://www.banggood.com/7-Inch-HD-Resolution-1024-x-600-LCD-Desktop-Digital-HD-Display-Kit-p-932647.html?currency=AUD&createTmp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_content=jude&utm_campaign=ele-xie-au&gclid=CjwKEAjwgPe4BRCB66GG8PO69QkSJAC4EhHhom3Rm-Nyhps8_RUg-MawctMgO55qbazzSt9Jhx-I5BoClIbw_wcB
2016-04-26T06:26:32 < dongs> i have that board
2016-04-26T06:26:42 < PeterM> i dont doubt it
2016-04-26T06:26:59 < PeterM> it looks hueg
2016-04-26T06:27:04 < englishman> 1024x600
2016-04-26T06:27:09 < englishman> who wants to bet 600 is dots
2016-04-26T06:27:11 < englishman> not pixels
2016-04-26T06:27:13 < PeterM> 7 inch
2016-04-26T06:27:22 < PeterM> pickles
2016-04-26T06:27:36 < englishman> my pops is back from oz
2016-04-26T06:27:50 < englishman> went to bondi beach, ate a $30 omelette
2016-04-26T06:27:50 < PeterM> get into any more fights with fences?
2016-04-26T06:28:00 < dongs> dots? you mean when shinks list 960x240 lcds for rearview morrors?
2016-04-26T06:28:04 < dongs> chinks
2016-04-26T06:28:09 < PeterM> i bet the omlet was garbage too
2016-04-26T06:28:18 < dongs> counting each r,g,b as "pixel"
2016-04-26T06:28:23 < englishman> ^ yes
2016-04-26T06:28:38 < englishman> no more fencefights
2016-04-26T06:31:26 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/y9lqACY.gif
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2016-04-26T09:31:53 < dongs> shopping for bikes for spawn. jappu search site doesn't allow sorting (or even searching by) wheel size
2016-04-26T09:32:18 < talsit> you spawned?
2016-04-26T09:32:29 < talsit> ...
2016-04-26T09:33:36 < dongs> lol one of makers is "BRODIE"
2016-04-26T09:33:42 < dongs> talsit: BRO, DIE.
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2016-04-26T09:34:32 < talsit> my favourite car here is the nissan moco
2016-04-26T09:34:52 < dongs> does moco mean something retareded insome langauge?
2016-04-26T09:35:14 < dongs> i was just driving in front of a toyota ISIS
2016-04-26T09:35:20 < dongs> or behind rather
2016-04-26T09:35:28 < emeb_mac> stay 500
2016-04-26T09:35:32 < emeb_mac> feet back
2016-04-26T09:35:37 < emeb_mac> in case of drone attack
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2016-04-26T09:37:14 < dongs> wut
2016-04-26T09:37:16 < dongs> its made by suzuki?
2016-04-26T09:37:21 < dongs> and nissan is just reseling it?
2016-04-26T09:39:31 < PeterM> "WE ARE ISIS, WE HATE WESTERN CAPITALISM AND EVERYTHIGN IT BRINGS... aside from the wonderful Toyots Landcruiser..."
2016-04-26T09:40:21 < talsit> moco = snot in spanish
2016-04-26T09:45:35 < dongs> ncie
2016-04-26T09:47:35 < talsit> Nova = "Doesn't Go"
2016-04-26T09:47:45 < talsit> Mitsubishi Pajero = wanker
2016-04-26T09:48:48 < dongs> yeah i htink i remember pajero thing
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2016-04-26T10:21:50 < dongs> 4 bloggers like this.
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2016-04-26T10:43:01 < dongs> can regular CCFL or wahtever light bars be replaced with LED shit as-is
2016-04-26T10:43:28 < dongs> ive seen the led stuff in that shape but does that mean the electronics are different like no ballast etc
2016-04-26T10:43:33 < dongs> or does it hax using existing shit
2016-04-26T10:43:49 < Thorn> ccfls need high voltage, don't they
2016-04-26T10:43:55 < Thorn> leds need a few volts
2016-04-26T10:44:04 < dongs> i duno if its ccfl im talki nabout regular long glass tube lights
2016-04-26T10:44:07 < dongs> that are in office and shit
2016-04-26T10:44:31 < dongs> http://www.factoryleds.com/files/resized/204475/318;333;3c1d2c240bd416d5def20de0c9737e5541f637c6.png
2016-04-26T10:44:50 < dongs> like this kinda shit comes in LED versions but can they be directly replaced or they guts of light housing also need to be changed
2016-04-26T10:45:17 < dongs> http://www.elightbulbs.com/catpics/templates/T12.jpg
2016-04-26T10:45:18 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-26T10:45:39 < Thorn> depends on whether there was an external ballast in the old FL fixture I guess
2016-04-26T10:45:52 < dongs> pretty sure there is
2016-04-26T10:45:59 < dongs> so its not drop-in eh
2016-04-26T10:46:00 < dongs> k
2016-04-26T10:46:11 < dongs> fucking japs
2016-04-26T10:46:17 < dongs> sold me a 2016 thing with that kinda light in it
2016-04-26T10:48:02 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljauWeZ3rNA
2016-04-26T10:48:55 < dongs> so basically with LED shit it just becomes 120V into the ends of bulb?
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2016-04-26T10:49:34 < dongs> tryin to buy made in japan microUSB cable, failing :(
2016-04-26T10:50:41 < PeterM> very hard to find non-fuckign rubbish cables
2016-04-26T10:50:44 < Thorn> http://www.ledsmagazine.com/articles/print/volume-11/issue-6/features/led-tubes/how-do-plug-and-play-t8s-stack-up-against-ballast-bypass-led-lamps.html
2016-04-26T10:50:58 < Thorn> >so-called plug-and-play LED linear lamps — fluorescent replacements that require no rewiring
2016-04-26T10:52:41 < zyp> haha
2016-04-26T10:55:55 < dongs> do you think if I pay 12$ for a calbe it wont be shit
2016-04-26T10:56:44 < zyp> depends
2016-04-26T10:57:08 < zyp> it could still be overpriced shit
2016-04-26T10:57:20 < PeterM> yeah, depends, you could get a $2 cable and the other guy makes $10
2016-04-26T10:57:49 < Thorn> just tape this to it (both ends) http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm
2016-04-26T10:57:59 < Thorn> will work gr8
2016-04-26T10:58:41 < dongs> ah yes
2016-04-26T10:59:14 < dongs> so this one jappu brand has 'superfine' cable
2016-04-26T10:59:19 < dongs> which is what I want i guess
2016-04-26T10:59:25 < dongs> .. in every type except microusb
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2016-04-26T11:06:57 < PeterM> >superfine
2016-04-26T11:07:04 < PeterM> all that means to me ius >high resistance
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2016-04-26T11:10:05 < dongs> to me it means its hopefully soft and not hard as chinese cock
2016-04-26T11:13:32 < dongs> also fucking lighting garbageshowing up in search reasuls for USB CABLE
2016-04-26T11:13:36 < dongs> fuck off apple hipster faggots
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2016-04-26T11:19:15 < dongs> tried to order a bunch of shit from same shop so they dont have to send 3 different boxes to me
2016-04-26T11:19:24 < dongs> almost every item comes from different department
2016-04-26T11:19:28 < dongs> ends up in 3 boxes anyway.
2016-04-26T11:19:29 < dongs> dumb japs
2016-04-26T11:20:23 < dongs> ill just buy one of the things with points so it inconveniences tehm even more
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2016-04-26T11:31:47 < dongs> err
2016-04-26T11:31:58 < dongs> anyone needs 500k of ISL3152EIBZ-T
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2016-04-26T11:35:09 < zyp> haha
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2016-04-26T11:54:25 < dongs> ragequitters
2016-04-26T11:54:31 < dongs> also all 3 boxes are free shipping
2016-04-26T11:54:46 < dongs> so japs spent 1188*3 to send me ~2000 worth of stuff
2016-04-26T12:02:10 < karlp> best business
2016-04-26T12:02:14 < karlp> honorable business.
2016-04-26T12:02:40 < Thorn> my lab psu seems stuck in China for good (if it's even the right tracking #) :/
2016-04-26T12:02:55 < Thorn> other stuff that I ordered around the same time is almost here
2016-04-26T12:05:27 < PeterM> the fuck have you got 500k 485XCVRs?
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2016-04-26T12:11:53 < dongs> haha, pal is paying for dicktrace 3.0 upgrade
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2016-04-26T12:14:00 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/1dXJosB.jpg anything funny here
2016-04-26T12:17:20 < PeterM> aside from the fuckign horrible readablility?
2016-04-26T12:17:46 < dongs> whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa new r equest money page on paypal
2016-04-26T12:18:44 < dongs> looks  dumb as shit
2016-04-26T12:18:49 < dongs> clickign anyhing on it goes back to old page tho
2016-04-26T12:18:50 < dongs> sucess.
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2016-04-26T12:31:00 < karlp> heh, someone asked if we could talk to honeywell TDC3000 gear.
2016-04-26T12:31:06 < karlp> turns out it's _token_ring_
2016-04-26T12:31:11 < karlp> who knew that was still around
2016-04-26T12:32:15 < dongs> tolkien ring
2016-04-26T12:32:37 < dongs> What Problems Does It Solve?
2016-04-26T12:32:37 < dongs> ​The upgrade solutions allow plant operations to utilize the benefits of new technology for improved plant safety, profitability and reliability, while ensuring minimal disruption and maximum retention of the existing investments and IP. In addition, users benefit from the flexibility of choosing the upgrade path that suits them most.
2016-04-26T12:35:39 < karlp> yeah, their website is only talking about how to replace it :)
2016-04-26T12:40:16 < Thorn> but it's supposed to be real time unlike ethernet iirc
2016-04-26T12:50:05 < karlp> yeah, turns out "realtime" isn't what people normally actually need, and the current equipment that replaces them is all ethernet, not token ring.
2016-04-26T12:54:14 < PeterM> is there such a thing as realtiem though?
2016-04-26T12:58:58 < BrainDamage> sure, dedicated pourpose machines can guarantee determnistic latency
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2016-04-26T12:59:28 < BrainDamage> is it a clusterfuck on a large complex system with multiple levels of abstraction? sure, but still doable
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2016-04-26T13:03:07 < Sync> karlp: well, back in the day when they were new they were the shiet
2016-04-26T13:03:17 < Thorn> there is bounded time
2016-04-26T13:04:21 < Thorn> btw the best tutorial on realtime networking that I could find was by a game developer (and part 2 is under a paywall) :/
2016-04-26T13:04:44 < Thorn> is there a good book or something?
2016-04-26T13:10:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/magnet-free-energy-cell-phone/
2016-04-26T13:14:01 < mitrax> "Generate the electric current from magnet or moto from old vedio casset that userly produce current when rotate" ... old vedio casset, yes
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2016-04-26T13:30:54 < TheSeven> Lt_Lemming: it's including everything, even the PCB, just not assembly, if sourced on china grey market
2016-04-26T13:31:08 < Lt_Lemming> right....
2016-04-26T13:31:33 < TheSeven> so I guess that somewhat matches the prices that big manufacturers would get on official channels over there
2016-04-26T13:31:34 < Lt_Lemming> considering the chip is normally like $8 alone, methinks you're going to be getting some dodgy ass parts
2016-04-26T13:33:36 < TheSeven> I've sourced a few things that way so far, and most actually didn't have trouble - a few did though, those were used parts (obviously visible)
2016-04-26T13:34:04 < TheSeven> the chip would be around $4 over there, the rest is jellybeans
2016-04-26T13:34:23 < TheSeven> lan8720 + magnetics + jack is around $1 total
2016-04-26T13:34:40 < TheSeven> pcb another $1-$2
2016-04-26T13:35:16 < TheSeven> 5V to 3.3V buck converter is <$1
2016-04-26T13:35:16 < karlp> would be nice if the cloners started up, and started selling them for you instead of these hacked up f103 boards
2016-04-26T13:36:41 < TheSeven> cheapest officially ethernet-capable chip (f107rc) is about $1-$2.5
2016-04-26T13:36:58 < dongs> whats the topic
2016-04-26T13:37:06 < dongs>  < TheSeven> Lt_Lemming: it's including everything, even the PCB, just not assembly, if sourced on china grey market
2016-04-26T13:37:09 < dongs> where did this convo started
2016-04-26T13:37:17 < TheSeven> some time yesterday
2016-04-26T13:37:24 < TheSeven> basically minimum stm32 ethernet bom cost
2016-04-26T13:37:33 < dongs> ah
2016-04-26T13:37:45 < TheSeven> which, in china, even with f407vg, seems to be around $8
2016-04-26T13:37:48 < dongs> yeah lan 8720 was so fucking cheap i was surprised
2016-04-26T13:37:55 < dongs> like i wanna put it everywehre now
2016-04-26T13:38:02 < TheSeven> last time I paid almost a dollar for that thing!
2016-04-26T13:38:09 < TheSeven> now it's like 30-40 cents
2016-04-26T13:38:49 < TheSeven> h2019nl magnetics are also 30-40 cents, I prefer external magnetics so that I can add optional PoE support
2016-04-26T13:39:37 < dongs> i bought some HR601680
2016-04-26T13:39:46 < dongs> 39c @ 200
2016-04-26T13:39:51 < dongs> i shoulda got pulse but chinagirl fucked up
2016-04-26T13:39:55 < TheSeven> rj45 sockets are surprisingly expensive, around 20 cents
2016-04-26T13:40:25 < TheSeven> hm, can those do PoE?
2016-04-26T13:41:10 < dongs> they're just regular standard clonepinout
2016-04-26T13:41:13 < dongs> probably, no idea
2016-04-26T13:41:55 < PeterM> cheapest f207 is like $3.50 us
2016-04-26T13:42:02 < TheSeven> I vaguely remember some having an internal topology that would interfere with PoE because of a common mode choke or something
2016-04-26T13:42:04 < PeterM> iirc f207 do ethernet
2016-04-26T13:42:11 < TheSeven> yup they do
2016-04-26T13:42:22 < TheSeven> but given that f407vg seems to be just 50 cents more
2016-04-26T13:42:39 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-26T13:42:42 < TheSeven> (actually even f205 will happily do ethernet, it's just not tested in production)
2016-04-26T13:43:18 < PeterM> iirc any ethernet transformer that has an open center tap can do PoE
2016-04-26T13:43:25 < zyp> IIRC f407 is pretty much identical to f207 except the M4 core and the higher max speed
2016-04-26T13:43:33 < TheSeven> and 64K of CCM
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2016-04-26T13:44:34 < TheSeven> PeterM: I can't quite remember what it was, something about saturation on a common mode choke or something
2016-04-26T13:47:51 < PeterM> yeah, thats not usually an issue with the CT because it cancels
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2016-04-26T13:48:57 < TheSeven> IIRC you want a shared common mode choke so that it can cancel, but some have separate chokes for both pairs
2016-04-26T13:49:06 < PeterM> no, thats fine
2016-04-26T13:51:56 < TheSeven> actually I have a few boards in operation with f205rb + lan8720 + h2019nl + jack, and they work fine
2016-04-26T13:52:04 < TheSeven> that board just isn't suited for mass production :P
2016-04-26T13:54:17 < TheSeven> f205rg seems to be cheap
2016-04-26T13:55:42 < PeterM> rb is cheaper
2016-04-26T13:55:59 < dongs> not enough flash for lunix
2016-04-26T13:56:08 < TheSeven> same die actually
2016-04-26T13:56:42 < TheSeven> well I don't really trust those $0.8 205rb offers
2016-04-26T13:57:00 < TheSeven> the question is whether one can trust the $2.04 205rg offer
2016-04-26T13:57:11 < PeterM> yeah, but $3 is pretty normal
2016-04-26T13:57:22 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-26T13:57:31 < TheSeven> other 205rbs start at $2.8, 205rgs at $3.24
2016-04-26T13:58:06 < trepidacious> Anyone used "capture pulse" mode for TRGO on STM32F4 timers?
2016-04-26T13:58:21 < PeterM> my chinaguy garanteees me legit 205rbt6 for $3.00 in 20 qty
2016-04-26T13:58:47 < TheSeven> that seems reasonable and might be what ends up on my board :P
2016-04-26T13:59:04 < PeterM> i would be hesitant to pay less than that
2016-04-26T13:59:23 < TheSeven> I'm just not sure whether I should go for lqfp64 or lqfp100 (for compatibility with f207/f407 series, even though they are the same die)
2016-04-26T14:00:08 < PeterM> is it a actual product or jsut a clone demoboard?
2016-04-26T14:00:38 < TheSeven> development breakout for quick hobby projects
2016-04-26T14:00:48 < PeterM> lqfp 100 then
2016-04-26T14:00:50 < TheSeven> some of which might end up going into small-scale handmade production
2016-04-26T14:00:53 < dongs> probably someshit he tried to port cockbox to
2016-04-26T14:01:04 < PeterM> not *that* much more
2016-04-26T14:01:15 < dongs> TheSeven: how dead is cockbox anyway
2016-04-26T14:01:26 < dongs> i'm gonna guess as dead as standalone mp3 players
2016-04-26T14:01:41 < TheSeven> no idea, I haven't really been involved for years, but they still seem to have an audience
2016-04-26T14:01:52 < dongs> apple removes ipod from top bar of apple.com, the final nail in the coffin
2016-04-26T14:02:22 < TheSeven> blind people seem to really like it, touchscreens are a problem for them
2016-04-26T14:02:29 < TheSeven> some people just want the capacity of an ipod classic
2016-04-26T14:02:45 < TheSeven> and then there's some who just don't want to drain their smartphone battery by playing music all day
2016-04-26T14:03:12 < TheSeven> some want a cheap music player (and go for some rockbox-supported sandisk devices)
2016-04-26T14:03:38 < TheSeven> I guess all other rockbox targets besides those sansas and the ipod classic are mostly dead
2016-04-26T14:03:45 < dongs> nice
2016-04-26T14:03:50 < dongs> i've got a drawer full of sansa
2016-04-26T14:03:54 < TheSeven> just used by a few remaining users who use them because they did so for years
2016-04-26T14:03:55 < dongs> i need to figure out how to do flash upgrades on them
2016-04-26T14:04:03 < dongs> they actualyl rape the nand chips and after a few yeras of use it just dies
2016-04-26T14:04:08 < dongs> doesnt boot anymore or non-stop media errors
2016-04-26T14:04:14 < dongs> every fucking one of htem that I have
2016-04-26T14:04:28 < TheSeven> the sansas have some rather weird flash interface
2016-04-26T14:04:42 < TheSeven> with a hardware flash translation layer, but not in the flash chip, it's in the main CPU
2016-04-26T14:04:46 < dongs> i guess a nand socket + need to grab bootloader/whatever off a working board, then clone it on a bunch of cheap flash chips
2016-04-26T14:05:00 < dongs> cpu manages wear?
2016-04-26T14:05:03 < dongs> does shitbox?!
2016-04-26T14:05:05 < TheSeven> the main CPU talks SDHC to some internal IP core which accesses the flash
2016-04-26T14:05:11 < dongs> oh
2016-04-26T14:05:13 < dongs> hmm
2016-04-26T14:05:18 < TheSeven> never seen that anywhere else
2016-04-26T14:05:20 < dongs> sot he IP core handles wear and shit?
2016-04-26T14:05:23 < TheSeven> yup
2016-04-26T14:05:26 < dongs> ok thats good
2016-04-26T14:05:32 < dongs> at least its not rockbox killing these fucking things
2016-04-26T14:05:39 < TheSeven> I guess they picked some SD card IP of them and slapped it into the processor because they had that anyway
2016-04-26T14:06:04 < PeterM> dongs, so, whats the story behind you and rockbox?
2016-04-26T14:06:10 < dongs> what about it
2016-04-26T14:06:21 < PeterM> i dunnop, usually when you hate shit oyu ususally have a good reason
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2016-04-26T14:06:30 < dongs> nah i dont mind it. it works
2016-04-26T14:06:35 < TheSeven> I actually implemented the software flash translation layer for the ipod nano 2g - matching what apple does to stay dualboot-capable
2016-04-26T14:06:37 < dongs> its a bit retarded architecture wise but
2016-04-26T14:06:45 < PeterM> fair nuff
2016-04-26T14:06:59 < TheSeven> reverse engineering that was a massive amount of work, but it seemed to work stable after a few months
2016-04-26T14:07:00 < dongs> cockbox is just a playful name for it, no hate here
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2016-04-26T14:07:19 < TheSeven> just the bad block handling is mostly untested because there just don't seem to be any bad blocks on these chips :P
2016-04-26T14:08:06 < TheSeven> actually we managed to improve apple's "sudden power loss" handling - it would more often than not just wipe the entire flash because it ran into some problem somewhere
2016-04-26T14:08:50 < PeterM> i think i had rockbox o na  gigabeat s at some popint, and hten binned it after it nuked all the data on it randomly one day
2016-04-26T14:08:53 < TheSeven> our code can actually recover every single power loss (or hard reset) case, no matter when it happens
2016-04-26T14:09:18 < TheSeven> hahaha yeah the gigabeast has some hdd wiping problem in its bootloader as well
2016-04-26T14:09:35 < TheSeven> that's why I decided to nuke apple's nano2g bootloader and rewrite it from scratch
2016-04-26T14:10:08 < dongs> laff
2016-04-26T14:10:15 < dongs> gigabeat more liek niggabeat
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2016-04-26T14:11:46 < TheSeven> (I used to be port maintainer for ipod nano2g and classic, having written the initial implementation for them back in the day, but I've passed that on to someone else 2 years ago or so)
2016-04-26T14:11:47 < PeterM> these days, wifi is jsut too nice to give up for a long battery life high capacity audio device
2016-04-26T14:12:32 < dongs> I think i installed cockbox on ipod nano [original] once
2016-04-26T14:12:38 < dongs> it sounded infinitely worse
2016-04-26T14:12:50 < dongs> like, I didnt think it t was possible to make mp3 sound worse than it already did
2016-04-26T14:12:54 < dongs> but rockbox sure achieved it
2016-04-26T14:13:07 < TheSeven> hm... I wonder how that's even possible
2016-04-26T14:13:09 < dongs> must be apple's amazing EQ or whatever
2016-04-26T14:13:20 < dongs> but it sounded tinny and annoying on rockbox
2016-04-26T14:13:34 < PeterM> probably garbage codec
2016-04-26T14:13:38 < dongs> while same tunes on original firmware had wider soundstage, deep bass and silky-smooth midrange
2016-04-26T14:13:49 < PeterM> or something
2016-04-26T14:14:29 < TheSeven> no idea about the original nano, but on the ones that I took care of, the mp3 decoder is just some generic (and verified) code, and the audio driver is basically reverse engineered from apple's firmware and should match it
2016-04-26T14:14:31 < PeterM> dongs, you know what causes wider soundstage, deep base and smooth mid range?
2016-04-26T14:14:48 < TheSeven> people actually complained about the ipod classic sounding worse than the ipod video because they switched from a wolfson codec to a cirrus codec
2016-04-26T14:15:14 < dongs> ahuaehuaeaehueuahaeueauheuah
2016-04-26T14:15:16 < PeterM> proprietary software
2016-04-26T14:15:23 < dongs> haha, yes this 100%
2016-04-26T14:15:45 < dongs> can you believe that every fucking AAC player in the world thats opensores
2016-04-26T14:15:52 < dongs> is using same garbage AAC decoder written by realnetworks/helix
2016-04-26T14:15:53 < dongs> in like 1996
2016-04-26T14:16:22 < dongs> its buggy as fuck, crashes at even tiny stream inconsistencies, etc
2016-04-26T14:16:36 < dongs> one dropped bit in some AAC frame and youre fukd, your entire decoder has crashed
2016-04-26T14:17:48 < TheSeven> AAC is crap anyway
2016-04-26T14:17:56 < dongs> compared to mp3?
2016-04-26T14:18:15 < TheSeven> people either use mp3 for compatibility, flac because they want lossless, or opus if they want good high-quality compression
2016-04-26T14:18:33 < TheSeven> AAC is basically just an apple problem :P
2016-04-26T14:18:35 < dongs> considering I'ev never heard of opus
2016-04-26T14:18:45 < BrainDamage> it's pretty new
2016-04-26T14:19:03 < TheSeven> opus is some new open source patent free codec that's being adopted all over the place right now
2016-04-26T14:19:20 < TheSeven> skype, teamspeak, ... all use it for voice, but it also has really high quality music support
2016-04-26T14:19:34 < Thorn> is it available for stm32
2016-04-26T14:19:49 < dongs> good question
2016-04-26T14:19:50 < PeterM> aac? who uses aac? i only use RealAudio Lossless files
2016-04-26T14:19:59 < TheSeven> rockbox has a decoder for it, that should probably run on STM32 - RAM might be an issue though
2016-04-26T14:21:00 < TheSeven> https://www.opus-codec.org/
2016-04-26T14:21:16 < PeterM> < doesnt actually use RealAudio Lossless
2016-04-26T14:21:23 < dongs> i see filthy lunix trash in their git
2016-04-26T14:21:45 < qyx> it is available for stm32
2016-04-26T14:21:48 < PeterM> TheSeven, yeah but thats what the FSMC is for rite?
2016-04-26T14:22:06 < qyx> it even does realtime encoding/decoding on F4
2016-04-26T14:22:07 < TheSeven> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/opus/2015-August/003130.html
2016-04-26T14:22:13 < qyx> I checked myself
2016-04-26T14:22:16 < TheSeven> that actually suggests that someone has dfone it before
2016-04-26T14:22:38 < dongs> I statically allocate the whole 64KB of
2016-04-26T14:22:38 < dongs> fast non-DMA RAM of the STM32F407 and manage it as a heap in my
2016-04-26T14:22:39 < dongs> application just for the Opus codec.
2016-04-26T14:22:39 < dongs> cute
2016-04-26T14:22:46 < dongs> finally use for CCM
2016-04-26T14:22:55 < dongs> scratchpad for shitty opensores
2016-04-26T14:23:02 < TheSeven> heh rockboxc does that on many devices
2016-04-26T14:23:04 < qyx> actaully it needed only about 28K
2016-04-26T14:23:09 < TheSeven> you often have fast on-chip sram + external dram
2016-04-26T14:23:16 < dongs> qyx, orly
2016-04-26T14:23:29 < dongs> what di you use it for
2016-04-26T14:23:57 < TheSeven> the sram is used mainly for DSP stuff such as audio decoding/processing, and for some bits of code that need to be in there to support sleeping with dram in self-refresh
2016-04-26T14:23:58 < qyx> only for the lulz
2016-04-26T14:23:59 < qyx> just tried it
2016-04-26T14:24:10 < dongs> > -rw-r--r-- 4131 mlp.c
2016-04-26T14:24:12 < dongs> furfags
2016-04-26T14:24:23 < PeterM> lol
2016-04-26T14:24:38 < TheSeven> "For example, a fixed-point stereo decoder state takes about 25 kB to hold, and IIRC the actual decoding takes about 8 kB of stack. Expect the encoder to take more RAM though."
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2016-04-26T14:34:32 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_pornography
2016-04-26T14:34:38 < Laurenceb> attn dongs
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2016-04-26T15:20:34 < qyx> btw the opus & skype
2016-04-26T15:20:53 < qyx> skype hasn't adopted opus, thats opus which has adopted skype's silk codec
2016-04-26T15:21:02 < trepidacious> Whatever I do to my slave timers, they just count once then never do anything else
2016-04-26T15:21:26 < zyp> tell them to count better
2016-04-26T15:21:30 < trepidacious> Didn't they combine two different codecs to make opus, one for voice and one for general purpose?
2016-04-26T15:21:37 < Thorn> lazy slaves need a whip
2016-04-26T15:21:41 < trepidacious> zyp: I've tried pleading with them, doesn't seem to work :(
2016-04-26T15:22:16 < trepidacious> If I set them up on the wrong ITR, they don't count, on the right ITR they count to 1 then stop, even when I'm sure there are lots of pulses on the TRGO of the master timer
2016-04-26T15:22:20 < trepidacious> sure-ish
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2016-04-26T15:23:05 < jpa-> trepidacious: pleading.. that is no way to treat slaves
2016-04-26T15:23:18 < jpa-> you need to jab them timers, like ugfx does
2016-04-26T15:23:43 < Flecks> w_log.c:(.text.log+0xb8): undefined reference to `__errno' << ideas?
2016-04-26T15:24:15 < jpa-> Flecks: yeah, add crazy switches until newlib likes you
2016-04-26T15:24:23 < Flecks> :D
2016-04-26T15:24:59 < jpa-> -lnosys nano.specs -lc   things like that, and also a few files with conflicting syscall definitions helps
2016-04-26T15:25:41 < Thorn> trepidacious: http://www.amazon.com/The-Roman-Guide-Slave-Management/dp/1468309374
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2016-04-26T15:29:09 < Flecks> jpa-: nano.specs - no such file or dir ;D
2016-04-26T15:30:33 < Laurenceb> try random shit until it works
2016-04-26T15:30:34 < jpa-> actually   -specs=nano.specs
2016-04-26T15:30:40 < jpa-> but yeah, Laurenceb is correct
2016-04-26T15:30:43 < Laurenceb> ^ thats what I have
2016-04-26T15:30:53 < Laurenceb>  -spec=nano.specs in my makefile
2016-04-26T15:31:02 < jpa-> i have   -specs=nano.specs -lc   but no -lnosys
2016-04-26T15:31:15 < Laurenceb> erm -specs even
2016-04-26T15:31:56 < trepidacious> Thorn: Wow, that's pretty weird
2016-04-26T15:33:15 < Laurenceb> nice, will send to my manager
2016-04-26T15:33:44 < jpa-> > Laurenceb has a manager that can read
2016-04-26T15:33:58 < Flecks> -lnosys -specs=nano.specs -lc << still the same undefined ref to __errno
2016-04-26T15:34:01 < Laurenceb> haha yeah there is that
2016-04-26T15:35:21 < jpa-> Flecks: don't worry, once you get the undefined ref fixed, it will crash on _impure_ptr
2016-04-26T15:35:29 < Flecks> ;p
2016-04-26T15:35:44 < jpa-> part of the thing is that with -lnosys, you need a totally different kind of syscall file than without -lnosys
2016-04-26T15:36:00 < jpa-> and when you pick random parts on google, you get random results
2016-04-26T15:36:55 < jpa-> it also depends on how the newlib that comes with your toolchain was built
2016-04-26T15:37:27 < Flecks> using 4.7.4 20130913
2016-04-26T15:38:05 < jpa-> yeah, we can't debug it for you because the only way i have ever gotten newlib to work is by random chance :P
2016-04-26T15:38:11 < jpa-> PaulFertser might be more skilled
2016-04-26T15:39:39 < PaulFertser>  -lc -lnosys to the end of the command line
2016-04-26T15:40:08 < PaulFertser> libnosys is the basic set of syscalls, mostly stubbed out.
2016-04-26T15:40:35 < jpa-> ah yeah, there is the order also
2016-04-26T15:40:40 < PaulFertser> Indeed
2016-04-26T15:40:44 < jpa-> putting -lnosys before -lc will likely fail
2016-04-26T15:46:40 < trepidacious> I don't suppose anyone has any code for using TRGO for anything? Might show me what I'm missing :(
2016-04-26T15:47:58 < Flecks> PaulFertser: still the same __errno undef ref
2016-04-26T15:49:09 < Flecks> and yes, If I swap -lc and -lnosys I get errors about _exit :D
2016-04-26T15:53:30 < PaulFertser> Flecks: please show your full build log.
2016-04-26T15:54:15 < PaulFertser> __errno comes from libc btw
2016-04-26T15:54:18 < Flecks> http://pastebin.com/69ubRUaU
2016-04-26T15:55:11 < PaulFertser> Flecks: do you add -lm before or after -lc?
2016-04-26T15:55:20 < Flecks> nope
2016-04-26T15:55:49 < jpa-> then put it before -lc :)
2016-04-26T15:56:25 < PaulFertser> -lc -lnosys -lm
2016-04-26T15:56:31 < jpa-> hmm, after?
2016-04-26T15:56:37 < PaulFertser> That's how it works for me.
2016-04-26T15:56:53 < jpa-> at the end of it, you might just surround the whole thing with --start-group --end-group
2016-04-26T15:56:55 < Flecks> doesn't work, not before, not after
2016-04-26T15:57:29 < Flecks> can paste makefile..
2016-04-26T15:57:32 < PaulFertser> Flecks: you didn't show the actual command lines that get executed.
2016-04-26T15:57:47 < jpa-> make SHELL="bash -x"   output could be useful
2016-04-26T15:59:09 < Flecks> http://pastebin.com/LxTSSd6A
2016-04-26T15:59:25 < dongs> lolz. dicktrace guys fucked up and issued me named license for 3.0 first
2016-04-26T15:59:29 < dongs> then re-sent company one
2016-04-26T15:59:35 < dongs> so now i have 2 keys
2016-04-26T16:00:16 < zyp> heh
2016-04-26T16:01:15 < jpa-> Flecks: ah.. you need to more the -lc -lnosys -lm   bit so that it is after all your object files
2016-04-26T16:01:19 < jpa-> *move
2016-04-26T16:01:25 < Flecks> ok
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2016-04-26T16:02:24 < zyp> do you need to specify -lc explicitly?
2016-04-26T16:03:03 < jpa-> zyp: with -lnosys, yeah, i think so
2016-04-26T16:03:21 < jpa-> because implicit -lc comes at the end and then it will not go searching the syscalls from -lnosys.. or something
2016-04-26T16:03:31 < PaulFertser> Right
2016-04-26T16:04:00 < jpa-> i wish there was some option to make gcc automatically just wrap everything in --start-group --end-group
2016-04-26T16:04:06 < jpa-> like -Wl,--do-not-make-me-think
2016-04-26T16:04:31 < zyp> haha
2016-04-26T16:04:44 < dongs> jpa-: its called "mdk-arm"
2016-04-26T16:07:14 < Flecks> success, thanks jpa-, zyp PaulFertser
2016-04-26T16:08:06 < jpa-> no thanks to dongs? :(
2016-04-26T16:09:11 < Flecks> http://imgur.com/HmVsDpz <<< ? what dongs? who is dongs?
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2016-04-26T16:09:50 < jpa-> wow you ignore dongs?
2016-04-26T16:09:53 < dongs> lol @ having me on ignore
2016-04-26T16:09:56 < dongs> what a fucking kike
2016-04-26T16:09:58 < jpa-> you are even more hardcore ignorer than i am :D
2016-04-26T16:10:03 < Flecks> cause he is sick?
2016-04-26T16:10:14 < Flecks> and I have children in da house?
2016-04-26T16:10:27 < dongs> not my faulkt you click on gay porn
2016-04-26T16:10:44 < jpa-> Flecks: well Laurenceb is a dangerous one to have then also.. :P
2016-04-26T16:11:57 < Flecks> jpa-: yep: http://imgur.com/l8hqrFA
2016-04-26T16:12:07 < Flecks> and many other sick ppl
2016-04-26T16:12:26 < dongs> flecks should just /quit
2016-04-26T16:12:31 < dongs> i heard thats the best command
2016-04-26T16:12:36 < dongs> for dealing with serious business on irc
2016-04-26T16:13:20 < jpa-> Flecks: ah, you still have the joins and quits visible :)
2016-04-26T16:13:46 < Rob235> blah
2016-04-26T16:14:02 < jpa-> it's surprising the discussions on this channel aren't any crazier than they already are, with so many people having such extensive ignore lists
2016-04-26T16:14:21 < dongs> the only thing on my ignore list is ohsix
2016-04-26T16:14:33 < jpa-> i have that one also
2016-04-26T16:14:40 < dongs> i wanted to mute him just per channel, but i couldnt figure out how
2016-04-26T16:14:40 < jpa-> shall we play ignore-bingo?
2016-04-26T16:14:41 < Flecks> well, sometimes they seem crazy, when somebody talks to himself :D
2016-04-26T16:14:53 < dongs> so fuckit
2016-04-26T16:15:04 < Rob235> hobbyking blows
2016-04-26T16:15:12 < qyx> ignore lists?
2016-04-26T16:17:49 < PaulFertser> Flecks: told ya: "to the end of the command line"
2016-04-26T16:19:17 < BrainDamage> mm, idea for a service, everyone uploads their ignore list and you display an ignore matrix
2016-04-26T16:19:22 < BrainDamage> ofc it only works for small channels
2016-04-26T16:19:29 < BrainDamage> but you could have contests
2016-04-26T16:20:32 < Rob235> vagina
2016-04-26T16:21:51 < PeterM> dongs its probably for the best
2016-04-26T16:22:17 < Flecks> PaulFertser: yeah, I didn't understand that "directly" I guess
2016-04-26T16:22:53 < PeterM> Flecks, have you ever been to http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/
2016-04-26T16:23:15 < dongs> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/-dick-cheney.jpg
2016-04-26T16:23:19 < jadew> that's an interesting link
2016-04-26T16:23:29 < jadew> dongs already found the one with the dicks in it
2016-04-26T16:23:30 < dongs> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/ballin.jpg ahahah
2016-04-26T16:23:35 < dongs> all this shit new2me
2016-04-26T16:23:35 < jadew> took him 22 seconds
2016-04-26T16:24:09 < PeterM> this website is like if dongs had a folder where he put all his pics from /b/ and irc and gnaa over the years, it would be it
2016-04-26T16:24:13 < dongs> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/buenos-aires--borges.jpg i dont get it
2016-04-26T16:25:23 < PeterM> no idea
2016-04-26T16:25:24 < PeterM> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/at-the-picnic.jpg
2016-04-26T16:25:33 < dongs> lole
2016-04-26T16:26:15 < jadew> heh
2016-04-26T16:26:19 < jadew> that's a good site
2016-04-26T16:26:26 < jadew> bookmarked!
2016-04-26T16:26:35 < dongs> i wonder how many of those iamges are on imgur
2016-04-26T16:26:48 < dongs> and does imgur do any deduplication and return same id when you reupload
2016-04-26T16:26:53 < PeterM> nope
2016-04-26T16:27:01 < mitrax> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/octopussy.jpg ahahaha
2016-04-26T16:27:05 < PeterM> most of the images o nimgur are pretty boring
2016-04-26T16:27:15 < dongs> mitrax: ive acutally seen that before
2016-04-26T16:27:15 < PeterM> mitrax, probably japan
2016-04-26T16:27:18 < dongs> it is
2016-04-26T16:27:23 < mitrax> PeterM: no shit :)
2016-04-26T16:27:23 < PeterM> dongs not surprised, refer to above
2016-04-26T16:27:34 < mitrax> has to be
2016-04-26T16:27:38 < dongs> plot twist: i took teh pic
2016-04-26T16:27:50 < mitrax> ahahaha
2016-04-26T16:28:05 < PeterM> most of the images o nimgur are pretty boring, there are a few websites that randomly generate ids, check for 404, and then thumbnail into big galleries
2016-04-26T16:28:46 < PeterM> i spent an hour or so just skimmin the other day, nothign at all interesting
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2016-04-26T16:30:01 < dongs> im gonna guess 80% was cat picks, 19% dickpics and 1% cp or random garbage like someones gaming rig
2016-04-26T16:30:24 < mitrax> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/porn-accident.jpg nice
2016-04-26T16:30:32 < dongs> seen before
2016-04-26T16:30:35 < dongs> i doubt its an accident
2016-04-26T16:30:46 < PeterM> nah, not even, tis like 90% random screenshots of russians playing GTA3
2016-04-26T16:30:46 < dongs> right by the script.
2016-04-26T16:30:57 < dongs> oh, i forgot, minecrap screneshots
2016-04-26T16:30:57 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-26T16:31:02 < PeterM> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/foreskin-chart.jpg
2016-04-26T16:31:06 < PeterM> dongs translate
2016-04-26T16:34:27 < dongs> lol i dont even
2016-04-26T16:34:29 < dongs> tho i've sen it before
2016-04-26T16:34:45 < trepidacious> Turns out I'm just an idiot, all my settings were ok, I just used the chibios register macros the wrong way, I thought they gave me individual bits, they actually expect the whole value :(
2016-04-26T16:37:48 < PeterM> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/zombie-pigeon.jpg
2016-04-26T16:44:15 < jadew> NSFW: http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/1-19.jpg
2016-04-26T16:44:20 < jadew> 6, 11, 17, 19
2016-04-26T16:45:06 < dongs> why are they all so ugly
2016-04-26T16:45:07 < dongs> is that the joke?
2016-04-26T16:45:27 < jadew> I'd do those 4
2016-04-26T16:46:23 < Rob235> anyone have hedge clippers for 7?
2016-04-26T16:46:43 < jadew> hehe
2016-04-26T16:48:57 < Rob235> will an NSAID help with a sore throat from smoking?
2016-04-26T16:49:37 < lorenzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_fpNcJUpcQ
2016-04-26T16:49:42 < lorenzo> lol wolkswagen must have outsourced to this guy
2016-04-26T16:50:10 < lorenzo> *freelanced :p
2016-04-26T16:54:03 < jadew> that looks like a long project
2016-04-26T17:00:39 < Rob235> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xvo44pr92oji5f/Percolate.mp4?dl=0 :)
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2016-04-26T17:14:53 < karlp> oh dontclickthis is listing files now? fun
2016-04-26T17:15:23 < karlp> ah, no, it always ways, it's thismight.be/offensive that's still login only, no browsing
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2016-04-26T17:32:13 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36136035
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2016-04-26T17:33:33 < dongs> sounds like a Laurenceb_-led project
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2016-04-26T17:38:06 < ReadError> https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+Vive+Teardown/62213
2016-04-26T17:44:44 < Laurenceb_> https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/lvLkAtklUm2mXMGH.huge
2016-04-26T17:44:54 < Laurenceb_> those photodiodes look familiar :P
2016-04-26T17:46:43 < ReadError> from wath
2016-04-26T17:46:52 < Laurenceb_> my PhD project :P
2016-04-26T17:47:18 < ReadError> https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/Yw2tlbf3i5fbx6rE.huge
2016-04-26T17:47:23 < ReadError> thats pretty crazy
2016-04-26T17:47:27 < ReadError> little lighthouse
2016-04-26T17:47:35 < dongs> what is that shit even
2016-04-26T17:47:40 < ReadError> htc vive
2016-04-26T17:47:48 < dongs> no  those steppers
2016-04-26T17:47:49 < ReadError> dongulus rift competition
2016-04-26T17:47:51 < dongs> or whatever the fuck tehy are
2016-04-26T17:47:55 < ReadError> they spin lasers
2016-04-26T17:47:56 < ReadError> idk
2016-04-26T17:48:00 < dongs> k
2016-04-26T17:48:01 < dongs> shruggin
2016-04-26T17:48:05 < dongs> is vive not actually LCD?
2016-04-26T17:48:07 < dongs> and DMD or someshit?
2016-04-26T17:48:11 < Laurenceb_> position and orientation
2016-04-26T17:48:15 < Laurenceb_> thats the base station
2016-04-26T17:48:24 < mitrax> oled
2016-04-26T17:48:35 < Laurenceb_> it gets picked up by https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/kNXevCeYBuDdUo4D.medium
2016-04-26T17:49:12 < Laurenceb_> I see stm32
2016-04-26T17:50:26 < ReadError> Laurenceb_  hm it does?
2016-04-26T17:50:29 < mitrax> crt: what's wrong with uncle bob?
2016-04-26T17:50:32 < Laurenceb_> https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/UnAjequlDWvxZFkX.medium
2016-04-26T17:51:20 < Laurenceb_> thats a lot of expensive shit on main board
2016-04-26T17:51:33 < Laurenceb_> wtf is nordic semi comms for
2016-04-26T17:51:35 < mitrax> ah yeah STM32F072
2016-04-26T17:51:35 < Laurenceb_> it has usb
2016-04-26T17:51:56 < Laurenceb_> and mpu-6500... why
2016-04-26T17:52:16 < Laurenceb_> I guess perhaps for high frequency part of orientation estimation
2016-04-26T17:52:44 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ well the vive is like 800$
2016-04-26T17:52:50 < Laurenceb_> that board just looks like they coudn't decide what to do so threw everything at it
2016-04-26T17:52:59 < Rob235> I want a vive!
2016-04-26T17:53:00 < Laurenceb_> lol
2016-04-26T17:53:07 < mitrax> i wonder how immersive those things are
2016-04-26T17:53:20 < jadew> I want one too
2016-04-26T17:53:32 < Rob235> I need a bigger apartment though :)
2016-04-26T17:54:02 < Laurenceb_> are those fresnel lenses?
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2016-04-26T17:54:14 < Rob235> looks like it
2016-04-26T17:54:17 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2016-04-26T17:54:24 < Laurenceb_> how can that work at all well
2016-04-26T17:54:27 < mitrax> and how clean 2160x1200 looks viewed that close
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2016-04-26T17:54:54 < Rob235> I bet if you really look you can notice the pixels (just a guess) but if you are actually doing anything you wont notice
2016-04-26T17:54:57 < Laurenceb_> the OLED panels look pretty sweet
2016-04-26T17:55:00 < Laurenceb_> very thin
2016-04-26T17:55:20 < jadew> mitrax, yeah, I'm not sure about the resolution either, but it can't be that bad
2016-04-26T17:55:23 < Laurenceb_> wtf https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/XL2LB3CgbPXUQlfS.medium
2016-04-26T17:55:24 < jadew> it's still very high res
2016-04-26T17:55:37 < Laurenceb_> I guess the lens plane is out of focus, but even so
2016-04-26T17:55:37 < Rob235> my pc just barely meets the specs
2016-04-26T17:55:45 < jadew> mine doesn't
2016-04-26T17:55:52 < jadew> I need a better video card
2016-04-26T17:55:52 < Laurenceb_> that looks like a horrifyingly bad lens
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2016-04-26T17:56:02 < karlp> nxp 11uxx and stm32f0?
2016-04-26T17:56:19 < ReadError> the 3d is pretty neat
2016-04-26T17:56:26 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/eS-Ii-4NHEk?t=79
2016-04-26T17:56:32 < dongs>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHwgjXAiws&t=39s lol dumb japs
2016-04-26T17:56:34 < ReadError> looks like they improved the optics a bunch
2016-04-26T17:56:36 < Rob235> I made a google cardboard and even just that had a lot of potential
2016-04-26T17:56:47 < ReadError> older oculus had shitty screendoor
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2016-04-26T17:58:29 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-26T17:58:52 < Laurenceb_> oh the vive controller has position/orientation
2016-04-26T17:58:56 < Laurenceb_> how that is hawt
2016-04-26T17:59:01 < Laurenceb_> *now
2016-04-26T17:59:15 < Rob235> yea its amazing
2016-04-26T17:59:17 < Laurenceb_> oculus btfo
2016-04-26T17:59:32 < Rob235> i hope oculus dies so that vive gets all the content
2016-04-26T17:59:41 < Laurenceb_> https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/uVVensULnfxLR1Hd.huge
2016-04-26T17:59:53 < Laurenceb_> ok worth it for $800 lul
2016-04-26T18:00:12 < Laurenceb_> thats a better invention than the stupid goggles
2016-04-26T18:00:14 < Rob235> even just playing regular games on a seemingly huge screen sounds great
2016-04-26T18:00:15 < Rob235> or movies
2016-04-26T18:00:54 < ReadError> yea the controller/position tracking shit is pretty nuts
2016-04-26T18:01:00 < ReadError> seems super accurate from the vids ive seen
2016-04-26T18:01:25 < Laurenceb_> heh I was planning to make a position orientation controller with left over photodiodes from my phd work - same idea as that
2016-04-26T18:01:28 < jon1012> wtf https://www.eevblog.com/2016/04/27/eevblog-873-worlds-most-dangerous-consumer-product/
2016-04-26T18:01:29 < mitrax> does that really cover the whole field of vision or do you get black edges in corners?
2016-04-26T18:01:35 < Laurenceb_> I got pwnd due to lazyness
2016-04-26T18:01:44 < Rob235> I saw something about the possibility of adding your own peripherals that have light sensors
2016-04-26T18:03:21 < Laurenceb_> looks like position orientation uses fpga + NXP M0
2016-04-26T18:05:23 < jon1012> crt, a nut fryer
2016-04-26T18:05:44 < jon1012> (or baby fryer, as they sell it as a baby bath warmer too)
2016-04-26T18:06:23 < Laurenceb_> https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/6MPKOlFLZTsgboVT.huge
2016-04-26T18:06:32 < Laurenceb_> looks like they have commutators
2016-04-26T18:06:35 < Laurenceb_> very pro
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2016-04-26T18:10:31 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-mm8FumurM
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2016-04-26T18:12:19 < Horrorcat> I am using the stlink (<https://github.com/texane/stlink>) with gdb on a STM32 F100 series controller. when trying to upload an ELF, I get "Error finishing flash operation" from gdb and "run_flash_loader(0x8000000) failed! == -1" from st-util
2016-04-26T18:12:28 < Horrorcat> I have added the quirks-option to usb_storage
2016-04-26T18:12:37 < Horrorcat> anyone a guess what’s going wrong here?
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2016-04-26T18:16:20 < Rob235_> when you search in windows explorer does it search inside text files, like source code files
2016-04-26T18:16:24 < Rob235_> windows 10
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2016-04-26T18:19:20 < Laurenceb_> steam related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbkl3n4xEh4
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2016-04-26T18:23:35 < Horrorcat> ok, I worked around by linking my binary to live in SRAM
2016-04-26T18:23:55 < Horrorcat> now I have a problem with GDB, which fails with an assertion when I try to run the loaded binary: ../../gdb/gdb/inferior.c:361: internal-error: find_inferior_pid: Assertion `pid != 0' failed.
2016-04-26T18:24:02 < Horrorcat> I guess st-util should lie about the PID
2016-04-26T18:24:22 < Laurenceb_> /inferior.c
2016-04-26T18:24:24 < Laurenceb_> lul
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2016-04-26T18:29:21 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgk0Hv-eTc
2016-04-26T18:29:25 < Laurenceb_> internet irl
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2016-04-26T18:55:58 < mitrax> do you guys know a good source for double sided adhesives to hold LCDs and such in place and such, about 0.2mm-0.4mm thick?
2016-04-26T18:56:13 < mitrax> -and such, gah
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2016-04-26T19:04:08 < Laurenceb_> mitrax  http://parafix.com/
2016-04-26T19:04:16 < Laurenceb_> we use those guys for work projects
2016-04-26T19:04:26 < mitrax> ah ok, thanks a lot
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2016-04-26T19:24:56 < mitrax> what does the 'U' suffix mean for STM32 references? e.g STM32F410RBT6 vs STM32F410RBT6U, the datasheet says the last character is for tape or reel but nothing regarding 'U'
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2016-04-26T19:31:34 < Laurenceb_> https://sli.mg/RIwRye
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2016-04-26T19:33:43 < BrainDamage> have you guys seen my oscope probes by chance, i swear i left them here ... somewhere
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2016-04-26T19:39:13 < ReadError> Running STM32Java programs, requires features that are embedded on special STM32 MCU series. There are two sets of special part numbers enabled for Java: MCU part numbers ending with the letter ‘J’ (for mass production) and MCU part numbers ending with the letter ‘U’ (can only be ordered as samples).
2016-04-26T19:39:32 < ReadError> so sample maybe?
2016-04-26T19:41:54 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/6VHb2Lc.jpg
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2016-04-26T19:48:28 < Yoduza> http://i.imgur.com/Gjcebko.jpg #4=VccTRGT, is it mean VccIn ?
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2016-04-26T19:54:23 < TheSeven> kinda depends on what you mean with VccIn
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2016-04-26T19:54:54 < TheSeven> it's the operating voltage of the target processor, supplying the interface chip so that the target processor gets the right logic signal voltage
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2016-04-26T19:58:02 < Yoduza> http://i.imgur.com/2Ct5C99.jpg Looks connected there...
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2016-04-26T20:21:24 < Laurenceb_> its beyond doubt http://milesmathis.com/pi4.html
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2016-04-26T20:25:57 < Laurenceb_> they went full conspiracy http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/xindex.php,qaction=dlattach,3Btopic=39772.0,3Battach=1112591,3Bimage.pagespeed.ic.nAOQjBOtz5.jpg
2016-04-26T20:32:15 < jadew> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/aeir-disinfector.jpg
2016-04-26T20:32:57 < mitrax> shrink cunt AHAHAH
2016-04-26T20:33:38 < mitrax> spermatozoom :')
2016-04-26T20:35:15 < kakimir> shrink cunt
2016-04-26T20:36:00 < BrainDamage> do you guys have some reccomendation for a 2.4GHz ism band bluetooth chip antenna? ideally 50Ohm and >-10dB "gain", size less than 2cm*0.5cm
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2016-04-26T20:40:36 < BrainDamage> nvm, digikey has so many
2016-04-26T20:46:37 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats easy
2016-04-26T20:46:46 < Laurenceb_> now try 434 with same requirements
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2016-04-26T21:22:07 < kakimir> that sounds like antenna chip you need there
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2016-04-26T21:31:56 < jadew> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/africa.jpg
2016-04-26T21:49:29 < kakimir> yes, they are almost the same.
2016-04-26T21:49:32 < kakimir> I am sorry i don't have a video example, pls it is real 3MP camera, the image is good, pls don't worry.
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2016-04-26T22:27:57 < Steffanx> wtf are you talking about mr kakimir? CONTEXT.
2016-04-26T22:38:31 < ReadError> kakimir is burnt the fuck out
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2016-04-26T22:40:05 < Steffanx> You really cant handle it can you ReadError?
2016-04-26T22:40:19 < ReadError> lol no, i dont really care
2016-04-26T22:40:27 < ReadError> i dont understand what hes talking about 1/2 the time
2016-04-26T22:40:37 < Steffanx> ok ok, because kakimir is like nothing compared to some other irc guy i used to share a channel with.
2016-04-26T22:40:51 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-5qGTMgN/0/X3/CA_04261615375772-X3.jpg
2016-04-26T22:41:01 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-XNSzDvQ/0/X3/CA_04261615373269-X3.jpg
2016-04-26T22:41:06 < ReadError> almost done
2016-04-26T22:41:36 < Steffanx> nice nice :)
2016-04-26T22:42:09 < Steffanx> If it wasn't forbidden here i would have made something like that.
2016-04-26T22:43:40 < Thorn> lol postal services seem to be overloaded because of the recent aliexpress anniversary (6 years) sale
2016-04-26T22:46:29 < ReadError> forbidden ??
2016-04-26T23:03:44 < kakimir> Steffanx: ebay seller about ip camera
2016-04-26T23:04:01 < kakimir> ReadError: what does burnt out mean?
2016-04-26T23:04:33 < kakimir> http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/full/144002.jpg
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2016-04-26T23:06:46 < kakimir> burn out?
2016-04-26T23:07:45 < ReadError> shot out
2016-04-26T23:08:00 < kakimir> cock out?
2016-04-26T23:10:10 < kakimir> sorry I need to meditate few hours after work, dinner and sauna to get back into IRC mentality
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2016-04-26T23:13:57 < kakimir> still I'm being the most sane I have been in years
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2016-04-26T23:20:14 < kakimir> TheSeven: well the board should be minimal
2016-04-26T23:20:39 < kakimir> processor board
2016-04-26T23:20:58 < kakimir> something you plug into system, not other way around
2016-04-26T23:21:29 < TheSeven> so minimizing the board size a concern? or should it go for minimum cost, but use additional (free) boards space to add some more interfaces/connectors?
2016-04-26T23:21:40 < TheSeven> is breadboard compatibility a concern? or will you always have a base PCB for it?
2016-04-26T23:21:54 < TheSeven> (if the latter, why use a breadboard instead of integrating it into the base PCB right away?)
2016-04-26T23:22:16 < kakimir> for my taste it should not have dozen types of connectors hanging out
2016-04-26T23:22:28 < kakimir> just interface to application
2016-04-26T23:22:33 < kakimir> ethernet
2016-04-26T23:22:42 < kakimir> battery connector
2016-04-26T23:22:54 < kakimir> cortex
2016-04-26T23:23:28 < kakimir> it should not be arduino because there is arduino
2016-04-26T23:23:36 < TheSeven> battery? in terms of li-polymer or RTC backup?
2016-04-26T23:24:02 < kakimir> rtc should be powered on processor board
2016-04-26T23:24:16 < TheSeven> so cr2032 socket onboard
2016-04-26T23:24:22 < kakimir> maybe
2016-04-26T23:24:26 < TheSeven> I'm just wondering what the application would look like
2016-04-26T23:24:35 < kakimir> or picoblade
2016-04-26T23:24:57 < kakimir> you get those cells with wire from ebay for few bucks
2016-04-26T23:25:16 < kakimir> It would be anything
2016-04-26T23:25:39 < TheSeven> because I can't really think of a situation where you could use a discovery-style plugin module (with less crap on it of course), but couldn't just copy the pcb layout into your application board
2016-04-26T23:25:40 < kakimir> that resources and requirements of mcu are met
2016-04-26T23:26:02 < kakimir> sure there could be some cleaned out version of common pinout
2016-04-26T23:26:45 < kakimir> then you have option 1) make it dirt cheap 2) make it more quality
2016-04-26T23:27:55 < TheSeven> so how would you envision the interface to the application board to look like?
2016-04-26T23:28:12 < TheSeven> standard 2.54mm pin headers?
2016-04-26T23:28:44 < kakimir> square or sligtly retangle board with 2row 2.54mm or even 2mm
2016-04-26T23:28:52 < kakimir> around the sides
2016-04-26T23:30:05 < TheSeven> ok, I still don't really get how an application board would benefit from having such a plug-in module, vs. just copying the design into that place on the application board
2016-04-26T23:30:27 < TheSeven> other than maybe trying different MCU models, but I don't really see a use for that either given how cheap f407 is
2016-04-26T23:30:46 < kakimir> those modules could be manufactured and save a ton of work
2016-04-26T23:30:57 < kakimir> just have simple headers to solder
2016-04-26T23:31:31 < TheSeven> so you're thinking of automatically assembling large batches of MCU plugin boards, and assembling the application board by hand, possibly all through-hole?
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2016-04-26T23:31:53 < kakimir> ie. such scenario
2016-04-26T23:31:54 < ReadError> lol why would this be worth mfg'ing ?
2016-04-26T23:32:22 < kakimir> I don't know
2016-04-26T23:32:26 < TheSeven> I might be biased here a bit, waiting for a PCB spin of the application board from china is a bigger concern for me than having to solder an lqfp
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2016-04-26T23:32:44 < kakimir> but they do that stuff in small business
2016-04-26T23:33:03 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-26T23:33:03 < kakimir> have seperate cpu board and and application boards
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2016-04-26T23:33:59 < kakimir> one thing is that you can shrink the thing in terms of area
2016-04-26T23:34:10 < TheSeven> for my smaller breakouts I went for the MCU board is baseboard way of doing it, and going for either breadboard compatible, or for a bunch of commonly used footprints integrated on the baseboard (such as a microSD socket, spi flash, nrf radio, ..., all unpopulated by default)
2016-04-26T23:34:23 < ReadError> kakimir this sounds like waveshare shit
2016-04-26T23:34:25 < kakimir> sounds cool
2016-04-26T23:34:52 < TheSeven> for breadboard compatible, size and pin count is a major problem, that only really works up to lqfp48 at best
2016-04-26T23:35:00 < ReadError> http://www.waveshare.com/product/mcu-tools/stm32/open407i-c-package-a.htm
2016-04-26T23:35:32 < TheSeven> so for the bigger ones I usually just do a 10x10cm board and use spare space to integrate interfaces to avoid having to build special PCBs for simple applications as much as possible
2016-04-26T23:36:05 < kakimir> sounds cool
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2016-04-26T23:36:25 < TheSeven> actually I think I've seen some stm32 board with onboard ethernet that pretty much matches what kakimir wants, but I guess it was f107rb or something like that
2016-04-26T23:36:28 < kakimir> that is the philosophy behind it
2016-04-26T23:36:49 < kakimir> butt non-application things to one board
2016-04-26T23:36:54 < ReadError> i dont think kakimir knows what he wants
2016-04-26T23:37:00 < ReadError> its just senseless ramblings
2016-04-26T23:37:20 < TheSeven> well I don't really know what I want either, until I have the PCB in my hands and realize which use case I missed :P
2016-04-26T23:37:54 < kakimir> I would use application board thought for binding such things as radios unless used in major part of project
2016-04-26T23:37:59 < TheSeven> woah http://www.mikroe.com/easymx-pro/stm32/
2016-04-26T23:38:01 < kakimir> *though
2016-04-26T23:38:09 < kakimir> I don't really use radios
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2016-04-26T23:38:43 < TheSeven> I'm wondering if that MCU plugin board there is actually what you want
2016-04-26T23:39:29 < TheSeven> http://download.mikroe.com/documents/full-featured-boards/easy/easymx-pro-v7-stm32/easymx-pro-v7-stm32-mcu-card-stm32f407vgt6-manual-v100.pdf
2016-04-26T23:40:36 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/XC3S500E-XILINX-Spartan-3E-FPGA-JTAG-Dev-Core-Board-XCF04S-FLASH-Module-Kit-/271309942384 this is the style
2016-04-26T23:41:13 < kakimir> TheSeven: now that is stylish
2016-04-26T23:41:32 < kakimir> looks expensives
2016-04-26T23:41:38 < TheSeven> $24 assembled
2016-04-26T23:41:57 < TheSeven> (the MCU board)
2016-04-26T23:42:17 < TheSeven> what it lacks is a way of keeping the RTC powered
2016-04-26T23:42:21 < kakimir> nucleo with ethernet 20
2016-04-26T23:42:26 < kakimir> *on board
2016-04-26T23:42:27 < TheSeven> and the rj45 connector is on the application board
2016-04-26T23:43:40 < kakimir> makes sense
2016-04-26T23:43:47 < TheSeven> they even have an stm32f746vgt6 version of the plugin board, for $39
2016-04-26T23:43:50 < kakimir> style points
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2016-04-26T23:49:30 < Rob235> ahh, got one long strip of ws2812b leds, a straight strip under each hexacopter arm and a few on the outside of each motor mount.  got my code set up to have two different animations (for the mounts and under the arms) at different sample rates. coming along together nicely :)
2016-04-26T23:50:46 < kakimir> maybe there is a point to not do shitty application boards but try to make something proper in 1-2 desing iterations
2016-04-26T23:54:23 < kakimir> iterations are real
2016-04-26T23:54:31 < kakimir> it happen
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2016-04-27T00:00:05 < zyp> no, just make proto modules and interconnect them with SMA cables
2016-04-27T00:01:44 < ReadError> lol
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2016-04-27T00:03:23 < zyp> okay, I can make some serious points as well
2016-04-27T00:03:48 < zyp> a module board for stuff like stm32 is pretty pointless
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2016-04-27T00:04:55 < zyp> a stm32 chip is pretty self contained, a simple module wouldn't be much more than a breakout board
2016-04-27T00:05:08 < kakimir> zyp: it gets hard after 10sma:s
2016-04-27T00:05:37 < zyp> using a module in a design wastes a ton more area than just using the stm32 chip directly
2016-04-27T00:06:22 < zyp> and a stm32 doesn't need a complex/expensive board stackup either
2016-04-27T00:07:08 < zyp> making a module of a larger chip with ddr memory and shit might make sense, since ddr is a bunch of work to get right
2016-04-27T00:07:21 < Rob235> I'm sticking to discovery boards and breakouts for everything right now :) when I finish the drone I'll learn how to put everything on one pcb
2016-04-27T00:08:06 < zyp> so you could make a six layer cpu+memory module and put that on a two layer application board
2016-04-27T00:08:24 < zyp> Rob235, that's how I started as well
2016-04-27T00:09:12 < Rob235> these packages need to hurry up so I can start testing. this is exciting :)
2016-04-27T00:09:16 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/PT6Z4.jpg <- my first quad controller was this stack of shit
2016-04-27T00:09:18 < kakimir> LPC43S with external mem chips1
2016-04-27T00:09:29 < zyp> that's a maple board, this was before any interesting discovery boards were out
2016-04-27T00:10:16 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/0nLzO.JPG <- second rev used a maple mini, third rev got all on one board
2016-04-27T00:10:57 < zyp> third rev does a lot more than second rev, in less area and volume
2016-04-27T00:11:00 < kakimir> how are encryption accelerators in stm32 high-end series?
2016-04-27T00:11:08 < kakimir> AES128?
2016-04-27T00:11:18 < zyp> read the RM
2016-04-27T00:11:31 < zyp> but yeah, it does common AES stuff
2016-04-27T00:12:59 < kakimir> Cryptographic acceleration: hardware acceleration for AES 128, 192, 256, triple DES, HASH (MD5, SHA-1, SHA-2), and HMAC
2016-04-27T00:13:08 < kakimir> very nice
2016-04-27T00:14:52 < kakimir> it does the real business
2016-04-27T00:16:00 < zyp> assuming you can get it
2016-04-27T00:16:41 < kakimir> to do stuff?
2016-04-27T00:16:56 < kakimir> I pretty much can't
2016-04-27T00:19:20 < Ultrasauce> no like obtain it in the first place
2016-04-27T00:19:34 < Ultrasauce> export controls
2016-04-27T00:19:57 < kakimir> what
2016-04-27T00:20:11 < Ultrasauce> encryption is a weapon
2016-04-27T00:20:17 < kakimir> hekk
2016-04-27T00:20:39 < kakimir> big bother is watching?
2016-04-27T00:20:59 < kakimir> daddy yankee
2016-04-27T00:23:09 < kakimir> bullshit is nothing more than bullying others and keeping competive edge
2016-04-27T00:24:18 < kakimir> it doesn't say it has export limitations
2016-04-27T00:25:52 < Rob235> so I have a galaxy s6 which has qi charging and I got my gf a qi charger for her iphone 6s.  she has to unplug it every day in the car to use it with her stereo and after a week the connector broke off.  Is there anyway to make a pass thru or something that would fix this
2016-04-27T00:26:59 < kakimir> doesn't sound too easy
2016-04-27T00:28:44 < kakimir> so china made shiet has export limitations to europe?
2016-04-27T00:29:26 < kakimir> isn't it export limitation of things manufactured in usa?
2016-04-27T00:32:17 < Rob235> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-8-Pin-Female-to-Micro-USB-Male-sync-charger-adapter-for-iphone-5-5s/32648415992.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.43.r5aAOA&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10017_10005_10006_10034_10021_507_10022_10009_10020_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201603_1&btsid=65d57555-9037-4b92-a1e3-9929be73b746
2016-04-27T00:32:21 < Rob235> whoa sorry
2016-04-27T00:32:23 < Rob235> but maybe I can use that
2016-04-27T00:33:26 < kakimir> you didn't define what connector you are talking about
2016-04-27T00:34:31 < Rob235> i said she has a 6s so its a lightning connector.  I can take that apart and just use the female connector to rig something up
2016-04-27T00:35:30 < Rob235> just gotta make sure they aren't plugged in at the same time :)
2016-04-27T00:36:25 < kakimir> you are doing something you shouldn't
2016-04-27T00:36:37 < kakimir> just fix it properly
2016-04-27T00:36:39 < Steffanx> Ya readerror, motorized skateboards are forbidden here
2016-04-27T00:36:52 < ReadError> oh wow, thats odd
2016-04-27T00:37:04 < ReadError> just on public roads?
2016-04-27T00:37:16 < ReadError> or sidewalks*
2016-04-27T00:37:47 < Steffanx> I believe the law says something motorize without steer is not allowed on the street
2016-04-27T00:37:51 < kakimir> it's nothing odd to control trolling vehicles on road and light traffic ways
2016-04-27T00:38:16 < Yoduza> is max ii 240 Le's from 1983 ?
2016-04-27T00:38:16 < Rob235> kakimir, fix it how?
2016-04-27T00:38:20 < Steffanx> We dutchies are odd.
2016-04-27T00:38:37 < kakimir> what ever is broken then fix it like it was
2016-04-27T00:38:54 < Rob235> it's still not ideal, still have to unplug it every day
2016-04-27T00:39:05 < Rob235> and its going to rip off again
2016-04-27T00:39:19 < kakimir> do not fuk on top of the phone!!
2016-04-27T00:39:24 < kakimir> move it to side
2016-04-27T00:39:45 < kakimir> connectors can not stand it
2016-04-27T00:40:30 < ReadError> PeterM did you see the progress?
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2016-04-27T00:59:23 < kakimir> how well compiler opts out when copying parameter of large size and the parameter stays totally or partially unmodified?
2016-04-27T01:01:13 < Ultrasauce> use a pointer or reference
2016-04-27T01:02:19 < kakimir> so compiler if very dumb thing after all
2016-04-27T01:02:48 < Ultrasauce> garbage in garbage out
2016-04-27T01:02:59 < kakimir> I use actually
2016-04-27T01:03:31 < kakimir> I wonder if I should when I have parameter size of 2 words
2016-04-27T01:03:37 < kakimir> have pointer or not to
2016-04-27T01:04:11 < kakimir> maybe I do one struct I can refer to as a parameter
2016-04-27T01:05:14 < kakimir> 2 words is not yet the size to refer to
2016-04-27T01:07:06 < kakimir> 3words might be
2016-04-27T01:07:41 < kakimir> in terms of optimizing
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2016-04-27T02:08:26 < kakimir> fp_array->array[0]
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2016-04-27T02:08:55 < kakimir> how to make this a pointer to array[0]?
2016-04-27T02:09:20 < kakimir> I think I have asked this before but I forgot
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2016-04-27T02:13:09 < kakimir> &() ?
2016-04-27T02:14:02 < Laurenceb> the Trumpening begins
2016-04-27T02:14:17  * Laurenceb retreats to his nuclear fallout shelter and grabs popcorn
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2016-04-27T02:14:45 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWnmYLtpAvg&feature=youtu.be
2016-04-27T02:14:49 < ReadError> fuckin weev
2016-04-27T02:15:18 < kakimir> Laurenceb: references
2016-04-27T02:15:43 < kakimir> remember references when throwing such trollins
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2016-04-27T02:17:49 < jadew> I have 6 ongoing projects, don't know which one to dedicate my time to
2016-04-27T02:18:24 < Laurenceb> we all know dongs is actually weev
2016-04-27T02:18:31 < ReadError> kakimir you dont make any sense
2016-04-27T02:18:40 < ReadError> Laurenceb oh for sure
2016-04-27T02:19:03 < jadew> kakimir, &fp_array->array[0] of course
2016-04-27T02:19:27  * Laurenceb bills Mexico for construction costs of his nuclear bunker
2016-04-27T02:19:46 < jadew> otherwise, fp_array->array is already a pointer to fp_array->array[0]
2016-04-27T02:20:53 < kakimir> I have some issues with my FixedPointArrayType
2016-04-27T02:21:18 < kakimir> FixedPointType **array;//Pointer to FixedPointType array. Remember to initialize array.
2016-04-27T02:21:32 < kakimir> maybe FixedPointType array[];
2016-04-27T02:21:40 < kakimir> would be better
2016-04-27T02:21:51 < kakimir> or just *array
2016-04-27T02:22:20 < jadew> what are you trying to do?
2016-04-27T02:23:47 < kakimir> http://pastebin.com/Usf7Y4nQ
2016-04-27T02:24:03 < kakimir> I'm still bad with this
2016-04-27T02:24:35 < jadew> FixedPointType **array;
2016-04-27T02:24:40 < jadew> what's this supposed to point to?
2016-04-27T02:25:06 < kakimir> point to array - undefined lenght
2016-04-27T02:25:14 < kakimir> *length
2016-04-27T02:25:15 < jadew> of FixedPointType?
2016-04-27T02:25:22 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-27T02:25:31 < jadew> then you have an extra *
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2016-04-27T02:25:55 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-27T02:25:57 < jadew> FixedPointType** means it points to array of arrays of FixedPointType
2016-04-27T02:26:02 < kakimir> confimed!
2016-04-27T02:26:22 < jadew> also, is this for an embeded device?
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2016-04-27T02:27:27 < kakimir> it is
2016-04-27T02:27:33 < jadew> k then
2016-04-27T02:27:50 < kakimir> you were saying?
2016-04-27T02:28:18 < jadew> that's it
2016-04-27T02:29:02 < jadew> I was talking about my projects, but it's clear to me now which one I should do first
2016-04-27T02:29:33 < kakimir> I think I need to do standard library implementation and compare parsing and formating speeds
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2016-04-27T02:30:56 < kakimir> I assume my bare to bones parser and formatter kills the standard library based ones 1to10
2016-04-27T02:31:24 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox
2016-04-27T02:33:29 < kakimir> it doesn't waste any time doing anything it shouldn't
2016-04-27T02:33:50 < kakimir> it recycles variables and all that sweet stuff
2016-04-27T02:34:15 < jadew> I wrote a bunch of c++ containers for embeded programming, but I can't seem to find them
2016-04-27T02:34:36 < kakimir> so easy
2016-04-27T02:35:03 < kakimir> I don't even remember how C++ looks like
2016-04-27T02:35:18 < jadew> it looks great
2016-04-27T02:35:24 < kakimir> it had some :: and
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2016-04-27T02:43:01 < Laurenceb> noo 8chan is down
2016-04-27T02:43:06 < Laurenceb> trumpening postponed
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2016-04-27T02:50:18 < Laurenceb> yay its back https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1461707984127.jpg
2016-04-27T02:50:27 < kakimir> enlighten me of these secret ceremonies on 8chan
2016-04-27T02:51:19 < kakimir> real pumpin?
2016-04-27T02:51:40 < Laurenceb> crabposting
2016-04-27T02:51:47 < Laurenceb> molluscposting
2016-04-27T02:51:51 < Laurenceb> propaneposting
2016-04-27T02:51:54 < Laurenceb> thats about it
2016-04-27T02:54:00 < kakimir> no real wizardry to pump the trump?
2016-04-27T02:54:54 < Laurenceb> meme magic
2016-04-27T03:00:54 < kakimir> "void value not ignored as it ought to be"
2016-04-27T03:01:12 < kakimir> is ought a word :<
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2016-04-27T03:03:40 < kakimir> it took way too long to realize that function being called returns void
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2016-04-27T04:23:09 < dongs> http://blog.dantup.com/2016/04/have-software-developers-given-up/
2016-04-27T04:25:55 < dongs> holy shit these speakers are great
2016-04-27T04:26:29 < dongs> and i can acutally hear stereo for the first time in i dont know how long
2016-04-27T04:26:31 < dongs> fuckin dell soundbar
2016-04-27T04:26:42 < dongs> sounds so fucking weird to actually hear stereo separation
2016-04-27T04:35:25 < emeb> two ears. what a concept
2016-04-27T04:36:03 < dongs> emeb: got pair of CR4
2016-04-27T04:36:14 < dongs> by proaudiofag recommend
2016-04-27T04:38:21 < emeb> mmmm... Mackie
2016-04-27T04:40:18 < emeb> dongs: what kind of power do they use - wall wart?
2016-04-27T04:41:02 < dongs> captive ac
2016-04-27T04:41:20 < dongs> so just a cord
2016-04-27T04:41:29 < emeb> Not bad
2016-04-27T04:42:52 < emeb> ohsix: gah
2016-04-27T04:43:19 < emeb> last thing I want is a bunch of "makers" bothering me with n00b questions. :)
2016-04-27T04:43:48 < emeb> Long ago I tried selling stuff mail order. That was a huge PITA
2016-04-27T04:44:12 < dongs> outsource selling to me
2016-04-27T04:44:16 < dongs> and support to /dev/null
2016-04-27T04:44:26 < dongs> you wanna know how to breakout board? TOUGH
2016-04-27T04:44:31 < emeb> heh
2016-04-27T04:44:34 < emeb> tough love
2016-04-27T04:44:55 < emeb> actually my website generates a fairly steady stream of inquiries
2016-04-27T04:45:05 < emeb> "do you sell these?"
2016-04-27T04:45:06 < dongs> i bet
2016-04-27T04:45:15 < emeb> answer - no, build it yourself.
2016-04-27T04:46:32 < emeb> I really love it when, from time to time, some perfesser at a school in India assigns a class project that's peripherally related to something I've done.
2016-04-27T04:46:41 < dongs> lool
2016-04-27T04:46:56 < emeb> then for a few weeks I get a lot of "Pleeeeease help me do this thing - send me the codez!"
2016-04-27T04:46:57 < dongs> can you plese email me source guruloldongs@hotmail.com
2016-04-27T04:47:06 < emeb> EXACTLY!
2016-04-27T04:47:12 < emeb> you must have had that too
2016-04-27T04:48:41 < ds2> nothing like old school print PCB on paper and measuring it to verify mechanicals
2016-04-27T04:48:58 < dongs> emeb: lols, just google pretty much any edaboard or similar post
2016-04-27T04:49:03 < dongs> there'd be a discussion from like 2003
2016-04-27T04:49:06 < dongs> and then some indian posting in2010
2016-04-27T04:49:17 < dongs> 'i also try solve this please send me the vhdl codes to hotmail.com"
2016-04-27T04:49:37 < dongs> but yeah i had a few similar mails about my shithub stuff
2016-04-27T04:50:27 < ds2> sending vhdl? HE HE HE HE }:-)
2016-04-27T04:50:47 < ds2> how many lines does it take to create a high speed ring oscillator in VHDL?
2016-04-27T04:51:39 < emeb> In VHDL? the actual ring could be like three lines instantiating inverters. But the VHDL syntax required to make it legal code would be another 50 lines. :)
2016-04-27T04:51:51 < ds2> blah
2016-04-27T04:52:02 < emeb> in verilog it'd be 5 lines. :)
2016-04-27T04:52:17 < ds2> just send the guy code that turns their entire FPGA into a ring oscillator
2016-04-27T04:52:27 < ds2> should keep him nice and toasty
2016-04-27T04:52:33 < dongs> i got a call ystertday atr like 2am
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2016-04-27T04:52:39 < dongs> "HALP SHIT IS FUCKING BEEPING CANT STOP"
2016-04-27T04:52:47 < dongs> i can hear the shit through the phone
2016-04-27T04:52:55 < ds2> nice
2016-04-27T04:53:04 < dongs> turns out some APC-UPS shitted itself somehow
2016-04-27T04:53:18 < dongs> and what was supposed to either stop, or be intermittent beeps
2016-04-27T04:53:23 < dongs> was just nonstop super loud sound
2016-04-27T04:53:31 < dongs> power cycled that stuff and it went away
2016-04-27T04:53:34 < emeb> upses are such a pain.
2016-04-27T04:55:58 < dongs> i think maybe therewas a power glitch
2016-04-27T04:56:03 < dongs> and it was supposed to just beep once
2016-04-27T04:56:04 < dongs> or whatever
2016-04-27T04:56:10 < dongs> but the beeper got stuck
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2016-04-27T05:48:20 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/need-you-illegal-software/
2016-04-27T05:48:23 < dongs> lol.
2016-04-27T05:48:25 < dongs> well this guy isnt beating around teb bush
2016-04-27T05:48:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Design-Global-Shutter-CMOS-Camera/
2016-04-27T05:49:28 < dongs> cool project, way too low budget
2016-04-27T05:49:37 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/kingstondata.html < buyer
2016-04-27T06:17:21 < dongs> http://imgur.com/gallery/ms8qfDI
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2016-04-27T06:49:28 < dongs> CloneBuzz
2016-04-27T06:51:39 < englishman> dongs, how do you use what i assume is NA plugged 120v trash in jappuland, like those speakers
2016-04-27T06:51:46 < englishman> do you have like a billion adapters
2016-04-27T06:51:53 < dongs> well most shit is 100-240V thank fuck
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2016-04-27T06:52:04 < dongs> but 120>100 none of the shit I have matters
2016-04-27T06:52:29 < dongs> im sure some shit like radioshack soldering iron wont work as well on 100 but other stuff was fine
2016-04-27T06:52:31 < englishman> so just non transformer plug adapters
2016-04-27T06:52:35 < dongs> no adapters
2016-04-27T06:52:37 < dongs> japs use flat plugs
2016-04-27T06:52:39 < dongs> just not polarized
2016-04-27T06:52:43 < englishman> oh neat
2016-04-27T06:52:50 < dongs> b ut i paid to have my house have proper polarized + grounded outlets
2016-04-27T06:54:53 < englishman> so basically your house has na plugs but 100v
2016-04-27T06:54:57 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-27T06:55:06 < englishman> everyone else in japan has NA plugs from 1950 but 100v
2016-04-27T06:55:20 < dongs> mhm
2016-04-27T06:55:59 < englishman> i just assumed jap plugs would be unique, difficult to adapt to and have some sort of smiley face integrated
2016-04-27T06:57:37 < dongs> kawaii plugs
2016-04-27T06:59:41 < dongs> https://twitter.com/smatfone_ still dont understand how these clowns got 15k followers
2016-04-27T06:59:48 < dongs> or what crowdfail site they used
2016-04-27T07:02:06 < englishman> The on-board ST-Link debugger and programmer  in STM32 development boards (Discovery, Nucleo) can be upgraded with Segger J-Link firmware to take advantage of a professional debug solution featuring high Flash programming speed, unlimited number of breakpoints in Flash memory, and real-time system analysis with Segger SystemView.
2016-04-27T07:02:23 < englishman> hmm
2016-04-27T07:02:27 < dongs> oh REALLY.
2016-04-27T07:02:31 < dongs> sauce?
2016-04-27T07:02:38 < dongs> for free?
2016-04-27T07:02:47 < englishman> url rape
2016-04-27T07:02:48 < englishman> http://www2.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/development-tools/hardware-development-tools/development-tool-hardware-for-mcus/debug-hardware-for-mcus/debug-hardware-for-stm32-mcus/seg-jlink.html
2016-04-27T07:02:56 < dongs> hard for mcus
2016-04-27T07:03:22 < dongs> thats jsut a link for jlink, no?
2016-04-27T07:03:46 < dongs> The on-board ST-LINK included in the STM32 Discovery and Nucleo board kits may be upgraded free of charge with a specific version of the J-Link firmware available on the Segger website http://www.segger.com.ST will not provide any support for this modification, and it is not responsible for any difficulty this may cause.
2016-04-27T07:03:51 < dongs> oh
2016-04-27T07:03:54 < dongs> hm
2016-04-27T07:04:31 < dongs> good job st
2016-04-27T07:04:36 < dongs> wh not link to the fucking place
2016-04-27T07:04:36 < englishman> interesting
2016-04-27T07:04:45 < englishman> yes that segger page has zero info
2016-04-27T07:04:57 < dongs> wat segger page
2016-04-27T07:05:00 < dongs> you mean frontpage?
2016-04-27T07:06:29 < dongs> The ST-LINK, which is limited only for use with STM8 and STM32 microcontroller families, is cheaply available. This device performs lowest among those tested. The consequences of this include a great increase in development time and debugging frustrations. The inability to move to another ARM/Cortex core may make this device more costly, as projects may become active which ultimately require the purchase of a debug probe that can support a newly chosen microcontrolle
2016-04-27T07:06:35 < dongs> this blurb about stlink on segger site
2016-04-27T07:06:38 < dongs> lol
2016-04-27T07:07:04 < englishman> haha
2016-04-27T07:07:21 < englishman> raging that this $25 pro device outperforms their $2k trash
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2016-04-27T09:12:40 < ds2> hmmm anyone know if it is easy to cancel/modify an order on oshpark?
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2016-04-27T09:14:11 < ds2> yeah
2016-04-27T09:14:20 < emeb_mac> ds2: email their support folks - if they haven't shipped the board out they'll work with you
2016-04-27T09:14:42 < emeb_mac> they work late too, so there's that
2016-04-27T09:14:48 < ds2> emeb_mac: wouldn't I lose my spot in the queue?
2016-04-27T09:15:08 < emeb_mac> ds2: depends.
2016-04-27T09:15:51 < ds2> hmm time is more important :( forgot to tent the vias
2016-04-27T09:16:08 < ds2> it probally won't short :/
2016-04-27T09:16:54 < jpa-> get some green nail-polish ;)
2016-04-27T09:17:38 < ds2> purple in this case :P
2016-04-27T09:18:36 < ds2> *shrug*
2016-04-27T09:19:15 < ds2> think I'll sleep on it first... panel is schedule for 28th
2016-04-27T09:19:51 < emeb_mac> they often go out earlier than scheduled so don't wait too long
2016-04-27T09:20:39 < ds2> it doesn't look fatal. just need to ohm out for shorts
2016-04-27T09:21:12 < jpa-> untented vias can be helpful for protoboards anyway
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2016-04-27T09:25:25 < emeb_mac> ohsix: we've got a sheriff here who keeps the county jail inmates in a fenced compound full of cloth tents.
2016-04-27T09:25:39 < emeb_mac> He calls it "In Tent City"
2016-04-27T09:25:41 < emeb_mac> haha
2016-04-27T09:25:59 < ds2> yes but that might be more humane then keeping them outside w/o the tents ;)
2016-04-27T09:26:14 < emeb_mac> not so comfortable when it's 115F out
2016-04-27T09:26:39 < emeb_mac> yup
2016-04-27T09:27:04 < emeb_mac> yup
2016-04-27T09:29:31 < emeb_mac> eh - new age bs is limited to sedona and some parts of tucson
2016-04-27T09:30:08 < emeb_mac> and it's pretty tolerable - just give 'em some crystals and they'll leave you alone.
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2016-04-27T09:35:51 < emeb_mac> most of arizona is pretty normal by US standards - here in the greater Phoenix area it's about the same as being in LA except the summertime temps are higher and the cost of living is lower.
2016-04-27T09:36:27 < emeb_mac> you get outside of the metro area and it's a bit more conservative, but that's true most places.
2016-04-27T09:36:50 < emeb_mac> we've got whacko politicians, but mostly they're pretty harmless.
2016-04-27T09:41:56 < emeb_mac> heh
2016-04-27T09:42:16 < emeb_mac> those people - a surprisingly large number of them came from arizona :P
2016-04-27T09:42:55 < emeb_mac> awesomem
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2016-04-27T10:08:48 < dongs> sounds liek i missed some autism6 chats
2016-04-27T10:08:51 < dongs> 15:26 < emeb_mac> yup
2016-04-27T10:08:51 < dongs> 15:27 < emeb_mac> yup
2016-04-27T10:09:16 < dongs> im sure it was totally informative and stm32 related
2016-04-27T10:10:32 < zyp> haha
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2016-04-27T10:13:43 < dongs> blah.
2016-04-27T10:13:55 < dongs> twoffice got silabs samples before me, and for FREE
2016-04-27T10:14:03 < dongs> i'm still waiting for the shit I paid for months ago
2016-04-27T10:14:25 < dongs> FUCK SILABS; SILABS SUX; SILABS IS DYING; SILABS IS DEAD TO ME; SILABS HIT WTC
2016-04-27T10:14:58 < dongs> contact them something like november/december last year.
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2016-04-27T10:16:40 < mitrax> twoffice?
2016-04-27T10:16:48 < zyp> office in tw
2016-04-27T10:17:23 < mitrax> Dongs Inc has a subsidiary in tw?
2016-04-27T10:23:53 < mitrax> i don't :(
2016-04-27T10:31:18 < dongs> ✓ Phil Miasup, find out about tools to keep you safe on Twitter
2016-04-27T10:31:41 < dongs> Twitter gives you the very latest on things you care about most and empowers you to take part in a free exchange of ideas. So we provide a vast set of tools and resources to ensure you can control what you see on Twitter. Here are three important ones that let you control your experience on Twitter.
2016-04-27T10:32:17 < dongs> Mute offers you the control to avoid people whose Tweets bother you — whether they’re sending spam or spoilers. You won’t see their Tweets and muted accounts won’t know they’ve been muted.
2016-04-27T10:32:22 < dongs> Block stops people from following you, tagging you in photos, or accessing your Tweets.
2016-04-27T10:32:30 < dongs> If someone is threatening you or someone else, report it. When you do, our Safety team investigates to determine the right response.
2016-04-27T10:33:08 < dongs> is that your morning alarm clock
2016-04-27T10:33:16 < dongs> crt, are you staying saef on twitter
2016-04-27T10:33:29 < dongs> also , cr4 arrived
2016-04-27T10:33:44 < dongs> A00
2016-04-27T10:33:44  * mitrax does a handstand and walks around crt
2016-04-27T10:34:20 < dongs> ill wait until it burns
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2016-04-27T10:36:44 < dongs> https://about.twitter.com/safety/three-tools-to-stay-safe
2016-04-27T10:36:49 < dongs> why are all 3 videos featuring females
2016-04-27T10:36:53 < dongs> being abused by males
2016-04-27T10:37:00 < dongs> is this what twitter abuse really all about
2016-04-27T10:38:51 < mitrax> is there really anything of interest on twitter?...
2016-04-27T10:39:06 < dongs> yes, my twitter was amazing
2016-04-27T10:39:08 < dongs> while it was active
2016-04-27T10:39:18 < dongs> https://twitter.com/zanoconspiracy
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2016-04-27T11:03:58 < Lux> dongs: zano done right: http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/26/hover-camera-drone-zero-zero-robotics/ in case you haven't seen it allready
2016-04-27T11:30:54 < PeterM> http://motivat.net/uploads/posts/1321720462_1-d095d181d182d0b5d181d182d0b2d0b5d0bdd0bdd18bd0b9_d0bed182d0b1d0bed180.jpg
2016-04-27T11:33:00 < PeterM> gday
2016-04-27T11:34:43 < mitrax> what cities do you aussie faggots live in?
2016-04-27T11:35:12 < PeterM> crt, who could mitrax possibly be talking to?
2016-04-27T11:35:59 < mitrax> ahah
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2016-04-27T11:38:50 < mitrax> ohsix: good point, but that's not always accurate, my previous isp had some dynamic ip pools with reverse dns that matched certain areas, but sometimes you would end up with an ip from another pool
2016-04-27T11:39:42 < mitrax> victoria state, what's frank4?
2016-04-27T11:47:42 < PeterM> thats why crt isnt allowed there anymroe
2016-04-27T11:49:00 < ReadError> PeterM http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-XNSzDvQ/0/X3/CA_04261615373269-X3.jpg
2016-04-27T11:50:03 < mitrax> ohsix: sufficient for what? i've rarely seen mac addresses be part of reverse dns
2016-04-27T11:53:47 < PeterM> ReadError, slowly getting there
2016-04-27T11:53:48 < mitrax> yes then you know there's a particular mac address at a particular location, but what do you do with it? that doesn't tell you the WAN ip it's associated with
2016-04-27T11:54:14 < ReadError> ya got the battery/esc boxes enroute
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2016-04-27T11:56:01 < mitrax> ohsix: i got that part, i just don't get what you would do with the information, to me a list of mac addresses / lattitude / longitude is useless
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2016-04-27T11:58:41 < mitrax> ohsix: oh you mean to use as a poor man's GPS in urban areas? yeah ok, since the discussion started about locating people on irc i didn't get how that would help
2016-04-27T11:59:44 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/ZLBl8p_mM5w?t=1081
2016-04-27T11:59:50 < ReadError> been watchin weev's youtube
2016-04-27T12:02:03 < ReadError> he posted a link the other day
2016-04-27T12:02:12 < ReadError> and i kept clicking next
2016-04-27T12:02:24 < mitrax> ohsix: i guess that could be useful to map open access points locations in an area, just stick it on something that moves around a lot, like a delivery truck
2016-04-27T12:04:01 < mitrax> not sure if the new espressif chip that does both wifi and bluetooth is out yet
2016-04-27T12:05:20 < mitrax> esp32 yeah, is it in production yet?
2016-04-27T12:05:49 < mitrax> hm nope seems it's a still beta
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2016-04-27T12:11:27 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/VIGG/chrome-2016-04-26-20-23-13.png
2016-04-27T12:11:43 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/ZFLQ/chrome-2016-04-26-20-17-53.png
2016-04-27T12:12:08 < ReadError> not sure if pricing error or what but they shipped
2016-04-27T12:12:35 < ReadError> yea normally about 200
2016-04-27T12:12:39 < ReadError> and always out of stock
2016-04-27T12:17:22 < ReadError> oh damn it comes w/ RX
2016-04-27T12:17:30 < ReadError> so normally its like 230
2016-04-27T12:19:42 < ReadError> ya 2 but not the plus version
2016-04-27T12:20:09 < ReadError> i didnt think it would actually ship
2016-04-27T12:22:11 < ReadError> nah they ship w/ batts
2016-04-27T12:22:16 < ReadError> its nimh
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2016-04-27T12:27:52 < ReadError> is there anything useful being done w/ those amazon dash buttons?
2016-04-27T12:28:49 < karlp> ohsix: why is esp05 the coolest?
2016-04-27T12:30:05  * karlp cleverly reads backlog before commenting on stlink/jlink :)
2016-04-27T12:30:09 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-Version-NodeMCU-Internet-Development/dp/B010O1G1ES/
2016-04-27T12:30:13 < ReadError> got a few of those
2016-04-27T12:30:20 < ReadError> not found anything to do with em yet
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2016-04-27T12:53:08 < trepidacious> The ESP8266 seems kind of interesting, but the transfer rates are really really slow?
2016-04-27T12:53:42 < jpa-> pretty slow yeah
2016-04-27T12:53:51 < jpa-> you're lucky if you get 1Mbit/s
2016-04-27T12:55:11 < Laurenceb> trumpening confirmed
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2016-04-27T13:03:32 < mitrax> crt: i like to kill deer
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2016-04-27T13:16:34 < karlp> ohsix: re wifi geolocation, was reading of some new changes in networkmanager to actually use fake macs when scanning for wifi, so as not to leak presence for that sort of thing.  only use the real mac when you actually associate
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2016-04-27T13:20:01 < karlp> mitrax: not really poor manbs gps, it's pretty muhc exactly how android network assisted location services work.
2016-04-27T13:21:06 < Lux> jpa-: is there any reliable data on that ? so far i've seen some forum post claiming rates up to 8mbit
2016-04-27T13:21:35 < Lux> i guess it depends a lot on what protocol you use etc
2016-04-27T13:22:59 < TheSeven> it depends on a lot of factors - especially how long your code takes to handle the incoming data, and some power management things
2016-04-27T13:23:20 < TheSeven> I've seen these things take tens to hundreds of milliseconds to respond to pings
2016-04-27T13:24:28 < englishman> Lux: is that your dickstarter drone?
2016-04-27T13:24:55 < jpa-> Lux: not sure, i just have my experiences
2016-04-27T13:25:00 < jpa-> also the AP mode seems to be a lot slower for me than the STA
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2016-04-27T13:30:09 < Lux> makes sense
2016-04-27T13:30:25 < Lux> englishman: i wish :P
2016-04-27T13:31:54 < Lux> the hardware would def be fun to play with
2016-04-27T13:32:20 < karlp> so, did segger get upset that people weren't buying jlinks anymore, and want to get more people into using some of their software instead?
2016-04-27T13:32:33 < karlp> what's seggers motivation for providing a software update to stlinks?
2016-04-27T13:32:50 < karlp> st gets to stop looking after stlink, though, why did they start in the first place comes to mind then
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2016-04-27T13:39:35 < mitrax> https://www.segger.com/jlink-debug-probes.html
2016-04-27T13:39:44 < ReadError> karlp what did they do? make firmware for stlink?
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2016-04-27T13:54:51 < karlp> ReadError: st spam says that you can upgrade your firmware on stlink devices to become jlinks, free of charge.
2016-04-27T13:55:23 < jpa-> i wonder if that applies for discoverys as well
2016-04-27T13:55:47 < karlp> that's what the news release says: http://www2.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/development-tools/hardware-development-tools/development-tool-hardware-for-mcus/debug-hardware-for-mcus/debug-hardware-for-stm32-mcus/seg-jlink.html?ecmp=tt3546_gl_enews_apr2016
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2016-04-27T13:57:12 < karlp> they've always endorsed segger,
2016-04-27T14:01:39 < jpa-> karlp: pretty surprising indeed.. cannot exactly find where to download the firmware
2016-04-27T14:06:08 < Thorn> what about discovery boards, can you upgrade them too
2016-04-27T14:08:18 < Thorn> >The on-board ST-LINK included in the STM32 Discovery and Nucleo board kits may be upgraded free of charge
2016-04-27T14:09:11 < karlp> I mean, don't really see why st would pay segger for this, unless they feel that maintenneance of stlink has been bleeding them,
2016-04-27T14:09:24 < karlp> and I don't really see why segger would pay st for it either,
2016-04-27T14:09:39 < karlp> unless they realllly hope that the "segger ecosystem" will be enough of a draw?
2016-04-27T14:09:57 < dongs> yes we  covered this few hours ago
2016-04-27T14:10:02 < dongs> i could not find anything on segger.com
2016-04-27T14:10:05 < dongs> to actually do that upgrade??
2016-04-27T14:10:11 < Thorn> so does it mean you get an automatic license to use segger tools when you flash your st-link?
2016-04-27T14:10:29 < dongs> Thorn: sounds like it, but probably no flashbp/jflash/etc
2016-04-27T14:10:32 < dongs> none of the "expensive" stuff
2016-04-27T14:10:40 < dongs> just debug probe
2016-04-27T14:10:43 < Thorn> I recall there's a whole package of them
2016-04-27T14:10:48 < Thorn> okic
2016-04-27T14:11:05 < karlp> dongs: talks explicitly about getting jflash and flash breakpoints
2016-04-27T14:11:13 < dongs> really.
2016-04-27T14:11:17 < dongs> well waht the fuck where is firmware
2016-04-27T14:11:22 < dongs> i have all tehse uselss fucking stlinks collecting dust
2016-04-27T14:11:28 < dongs> i might sa well make them colelct dust with real f irmware
2016-04-27T14:11:36 < zyp> haha
2016-04-27T14:11:42 < dongs> jlinkgdbserver is by far superior to wahtever texange/whateger garbage that exists for stlink
2016-04-27T14:11:48 < karlp> or just upgrade them to current stlink, which seems to have fixed most bugs I've ever had.
2016-04-27T14:12:05 < karlp> cant' say I've ever really noticed anything missing from recent oocd with stlink
2016-04-27T14:12:29 < karlp> I mean, not being able to program atmel samd needing 16bit writes or something with an stlink isn't really a major downside
2016-04-27T14:12:55 < dongs> not being able to program atmel shit sounds liek a win in my book
2016-04-27T14:13:16 < karlp> I got the samd10 mini xplained board to blink, then stopped :)
2016-04-27T14:13:33 < dongs> since when does shithub have votes in comments
2016-04-27T14:13:41 < dongs> https://github.com/antirez/redis/issues/3185
2016-04-27T14:16:15 < dongs> keil thing? i kinda dislike it cuz it only works with keil
2016-04-27T14:16:25 < dongs> and has no batch programming mode
2016-04-27T14:16:49 < dongs> if there was a standalone programming app for it i wouldnt mind
2016-04-27T14:16:55 < dongs> but jlink wins for that
2016-04-27T14:17:57 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/ui6Uf1x.gifv lol
2016-04-27T14:20:40 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2016-04-27T14:20:47 < Laurenceb_> kerrizor has to be a troll
2016-04-27T14:20:54 < Laurenceb_> https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/257689?v=3&s=96
2016-04-27T14:21:08 < Laurenceb_> chris chan confirmed
2016-04-27T14:21:17 < Laurenceb_> on antirez
2016-04-27T14:22:20  * Laurenceb_ has been modelling the htc vive location tracking
2016-04-27T14:22:46 < Laurenceb_> turns out you can get absolute position and orientation with just a single base station and 4 photodiodes
2016-04-27T14:22:59 < Laurenceb_> so their system should be totally epic
2016-04-27T14:23:14 < Laurenceb_> running it on M0 and fpga seems a weird choice tho
2016-04-27T14:23:17 < dongs> occult dick'd
2016-04-27T14:23:20 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, https://github.com/bgdwiepp/zypsnips/blob/patch-3/Laurenceb.txt
2016-04-27T14:23:21 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-27T14:23:33 < dongs> loooool
2016-04-27T14:23:33 < Laurenceb_> lulwut
2016-04-27T14:24:05 < karlp> needs the imgur link in it too.
2016-04-27T14:24:13 < Laurenceb_> top trolling
2016-04-27T14:26:24 < dongs> https://github.com/bgdwiepp/zypsnips/commit/1c8c667b462eaf7ce1d606dbc796b441a47ceb3c
2016-04-27T14:26:27 < dongs> ahaha
2016-04-27T14:26:44 < qyx> 13:22 < Laurenceb_> turns out you can get absolute position and orientation with just a single base station and 4 photodiodes
2016-04-27T14:26:47 < qyx> wat
2016-04-27T14:26:49 < qyx> how
2016-04-27T14:26:57 < Laurenceb_> also with vive, the second base station can get slave (omg oppressive) off the first
2016-04-27T14:27:36 < Laurenceb_> so presumably it calculates its position then gives you absolute position when you are out of direct line of sight from the first one
2016-04-27T14:28:12 < Laurenceb_> qyx: there is a coded LED flash followed by vertical and horizontal laser fence "swipes"
2016-04-27T14:28:22 < dongs> lasers??
2016-04-27T14:28:23 < dongs> wat
2016-04-27T14:28:38 < dongs> oh fuck off is that why basestation had those galvanometers?
2016-04-27T14:28:42 < Laurenceb_> so timing from each photodiode gives you an aximuth and elevation from the base station
2016-04-27T14:28:46 < Laurenceb_> dongs: yes
2016-04-27T14:28:49 < dongs> nice
2016-04-27T14:29:04 < Laurenceb_> 4 x azimuth and elevation gives absolute position and orientation
2016-04-27T14:29:52 < Laurenceb_> I'm guessing FPGA does precise timing/correlation and the M0 does the maths with MPU-6500 to fill in between laser updates
2016-04-27T14:31:24 < Laurenceb_> just needs a way to alert you to walls in the real world lol
2016-04-27T14:31:30 < Laurenceb_> maybe thats what the camera is for
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2016-04-27T14:35:44 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if the base stations are available standalone, itd be cool to stick the photodiode system on a quadcopter/robot/whatever
2016-04-27T14:39:42 < dongs> cheap vicon
2016-04-27T14:39:53 < Steffanx> You better implement a cloned version yourself Laurenceb_ and open sores it :)
2016-04-27T14:40:00 < Steffanx> Proof your models are accurate.
2016-04-27T14:40:05 < dongs> heh
2016-04-27T14:40:20 < Laurenceb_> its got to be patented
2016-04-27T14:40:29 < dongs>    420fps
2016-04-27T14:40:34 < Laurenceb_> unless its an ancient idea and patent expired
2016-04-27T14:40:40 < Steffanx> Who cares about patents in the open sores world?
2016-04-27T14:40:43 < Laurenceb_> lol
2016-04-27T14:40:49 < dongs> true
2016-04-27T14:40:53 < dongs> just put it on shithub
2016-04-27T14:41:19 < Laurenceb_> not for free :P
2016-04-27T14:41:26 < qyx> meh
2016-04-27T14:41:40 < Steffanx> github is not really patent friendly is it? They will take stuff down when ~forced too
2016-04-27T14:41:41 < Laurenceb_> it'd have to come with expensive hardware, sold by me obviously :D
2016-04-27T14:41:44 < Steffanx> -o
2016-04-27T14:42:31 < jpa-> Steffanx: can you actually forbid source distribution based on a patent?
2016-04-27T14:42:53 < Steffanx> I dont know, but i believe it happened in the past.
2016-04-27T14:43:54 < dongs> only if its licensed wiht ST-LIBERTY agreement
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2016-04-27T14:45:28 < jpa-> i wonder if the st-link made j-link will still have some kind of "use only with stm32" clause
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2016-04-27T14:47:02 < dongs> it'll be like my DCL license
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2016-04-27T14:49:13 < Steffanx> dcl?
2016-04-27T14:49:22 < Steffanx> Dongs cloner license?
2016-04-27T14:49:28 < dongs> yes
2016-04-27T14:49:38 < dongs> https://github.com/multiwii/baseflight#license
2016-04-27T14:49:47 < dongs> named exception
2016-04-27T14:53:25 < dongs> time to get stoned
2016-04-27T14:53:26 < dongs> bbl
2016-04-27T14:57:42 < Steffanx> enjoy the monsters
2016-04-27T15:01:42 < Laurenceb_> ah apparently the vive camera is for real world object detection/avoidance
2016-04-27T15:01:44 < Laurenceb_> so pro
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2016-04-27T15:37:25 < Laurenceb_> stop trollin me PeterM http://imgur.com/73yDKlO
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2016-04-27T15:54:35 < Steffanx> Hello mr c10ud^
2016-04-27T15:54:37 < Steffanx> crt *
2016-04-27T15:55:52 < Steffanx> e2e doesnt know it either Laurenceb_
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2016-04-27T16:10:26 < englishman> crt: i have cloned China $8 ulink and cloned China $8 segger, and I prefer segger
2016-04-27T16:11:20 < englishman> Maybe its slower, whatever, it works great, has non keil tools and works with (many many) non st chips
2016-04-27T16:12:03 < englishman> i got a couple more on the way from China
2016-04-27T16:12:13 < englishman> haxing them to work is pretty easy
2016-04-27T16:13:32 < englishman> or you can buy legit ones for almost the cost of Neil!
2016-04-27T16:13:34 < englishman> Keil
2016-04-27T16:13:36 < englishman> Ffff.
2016-04-27T16:13:55 < englishman> mmmm.
2016-04-27T16:14:36 < Laurenceb_> should I read spi rx register before a dma transaction via spi?
2016-04-27T16:14:49 < Laurenceb_> top avoid getting an extra byte on the start?
2016-04-27T16:14:52 < englishman> st dink is good stuffs
2016-04-27T16:15:15 < Steffanx> How is it keiling crt?
2016-04-27T16:15:38 < Steffanx> You better get your quit msg fixed because it will get you banned.
2016-04-27T16:15:55 < Steffanx> :P
2016-04-27T16:16:01 < englishman> Banned due to speaking truth?
2016-04-27T16:16:13 < englishman> Sounds like an opensores chan.
2016-04-27T16:16:28 < Steffanx> Aussies are not trustworthy.
2016-04-27T16:16:31 < Laurenceb_> opensource chan?! like infinity next?
2016-04-27T16:18:40 < Laurenceb_> josh lied 8chan died
2016-04-27T16:20:42 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: what's with that 8chan obsession?
2016-04-27T16:21:05 < Laurenceb_> it's the only place to hang after 4chan got cucked
2016-04-27T16:21:06 < BrainDamage> autistic people need something to focus on
2016-04-27T16:21:13 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-27T16:21:13 < Steffanx> hah, i was just about to say that :D
2016-04-27T16:21:38 < Laurenceb_> https://medium.com/@josh8chan/why-i-quit-8chan-former-lead-developer-tells-all-e67b3a4891f7#.b3bzkap25
2016-04-27T16:22:30 < Steffanx> What is 8chan anyway? Wannabee 4chan?
2016-04-27T16:23:17 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-27T16:23:38 < Laurenceb_> only alternative after 11chan got v&
2016-04-27T16:24:34 < jpa-> https://www.facebook.com/notes/blake-ross/aphantasia-how-it-feels-to-be-blind-in-your-mind/10156834777480504   so how many here can visualize a beach?
2016-04-27T16:25:05 < Steffanx> never heard of it, until now
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2016-04-27T16:26:03 < Ultrasauce> i dont think it's very prevalent
2016-04-27T16:27:43 < Lux> Laurenceb_: the vive has no object/obstacle detection, you just tell it the borders of your room when you set it up
2016-04-27T16:28:29 < Laurenceb_> ah, I was reading reviews off some perman00b site, obviously they don't even know the specs :P
2016-04-27T16:28:36 < Lux> i tried it out allready, allmost worth the price i'd say
2016-04-27T16:28:51 < Lux> a friend of mine preordered it
2016-04-27T16:29:43 < Lux> at the beginning you move around the controller in the room, that's how you set up the borders
2016-04-27T16:31:48 < Laurenceb_> ah
2016-04-27T16:32:01 < englishman> $800 wow
2016-04-27T16:32:29 < englishman> I thought they were going to make it cheaper than dongulus
2016-04-27T16:33:07 < englishman> and $30 domestic ship on top
2016-04-27T16:33:19 < englishman> they really copies oculus scam verbatim
2016-04-27T16:35:16 < Lux> but dongulus kinda sucks in comparison
2016-04-27T16:35:24 < Lux> at least the dk2 did
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2016-04-27T16:38:15 < ReadError> vive is way nicer
2016-04-27T16:38:46 < ReadError> least as a useable package right now
2016-04-27T16:41:01 < Laurenceb_> yeah dongulus looks rather perman00b
2016-04-27T16:41:15 < ReadError> also the content partners
2016-04-27T16:41:24 < ReadError> vive is gonna get the better shit
2016-04-27T16:41:39 < ReadError> oculus has that facebook monitoring garbage too
2016-04-27T16:41:52 < ReadError> 'always on' and tracking
2016-04-27T16:42:04 < Laurenceb_> lul whyyy
2016-04-27T16:43:45 < ReadError> why wat
2016-04-27T16:44:04 < ReadError> vive = steam = gaben = hl3 confirmed
2016-04-27T16:44:09 < englishman> walled garden only works if your shit is better
2016-04-27T16:44:55 < karlp> ie, if it's a garden
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2016-04-27T17:04:05 < Fleck> eagle, altium, kicad, other for circuit drawing/pcb making?
2016-04-27T17:04:56 < jpa-> are you asking "which to use" or "list all the options"?
2016-04-27T17:05:04 < Fleck> 1st
2016-04-27T17:05:05 < Fleck> :D
2016-04-27T17:05:11 < jpa-> if you have the choice, altium, of course
2016-04-27T17:05:38 < jpa-> but if the question is "pirated altium vs. free kicad", then it becomes a moral dilemma
2016-04-27T17:05:48 < Fleck> ;p
2016-04-27T17:05:51 < Fleck> right
2016-04-27T17:06:05 < Fleck> eagle maybe? :P
2016-04-27T17:06:22 < mitrax> eagle sucks
2016-04-27T17:06:24 < jpa-> personally i see no reason to use eagle
2016-04-27T17:06:40 < jpa-> it's not significantly easier or better than kicad
2016-04-27T17:07:41 < Fleck> thanks for feedback jpa-
2016-04-27T17:10:22 < Steffanx> Fleck has morals?
2016-04-27T17:11:07 < Thorn> my LCR meter has arrived
2016-04-27T17:11:16 < Thorn> with origami included
2016-04-27T17:11:39 < Fleck> Steffanx cares?
2016-04-27T17:11:51 < ReadError> Thorn get it from that jap on ebay?
2016-04-27T17:12:14 < Thorn> yes
2016-04-27T17:13:01 < ReadError> de5000 ?
2016-04-27T17:13:14 < Thorn> correct
2016-04-27T17:13:33 < Thorn> I should have ordered kelvin leads immediately
2016-04-27T17:14:17 < Thorn> to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mHemRWq_eg
2016-04-27T17:14:35 < Steffanx> lol Fleck, not at all.
2016-04-27T17:14:51 < Fleck> ...
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2016-04-27T17:15:11 < Steffanx> Such serious guy :P
2016-04-27T17:16:21 < Steffanx> You can always pay a few $ to get the student version of altium
2016-04-27T17:16:49 < Steffanx> but for some students 121 EUR/year could be a bit much
2016-04-27T17:18:42 < Thorn> CN22 says "PlasticToySet"
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2016-04-27T17:28:51 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-27T17:28:57 < ReadError> that guy is super german or something
2016-04-27T17:29:07 < ReadError> Thorn did you not get the tweezers?
2016-04-27T17:29:37 < Thorn> I got tweezers and even the guard wire
2016-04-27T17:31:05 < ReadError> using those giant clips has got to be a PITA
2016-04-27T17:32:52 < Thorn> btw it has a 9vdc socket
2016-04-27T17:34:27 < ReadError> i put a batt in
2016-04-27T17:35:02 < Steffanx> What fancy lcr are you talking about?
2016-04-27T17:35:25 < Steffanx> *+meter
2016-04-27T17:36:48 < ReadError> some clone
2016-04-27T17:36:59 < ReadError> lol he didnt open them during calibration
2016-04-27T17:37:14 < Thorn> der de-5000
2016-04-27T17:37:24 < ReadError> the thing is comically huge
2016-04-27T17:37:31 < ReadError> I didnt think it was going to be so large
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2016-04-27T17:45:23 < lorenzo> maxim-ic "low part count": 3 resistors, 2 inductors, a mosfet, two diodes, five capacitors
2016-04-27T17:47:18 < Steffanx> only one ic.
2016-04-27T17:48:05 < Steffanx> unless you see the mosfet as an ic
2016-04-27T17:48:13 < lorenzo> heh
2016-04-27T17:48:17 < Thorn> th ceramic cap set from China. cap is marked "104". meter says 47nF
2016-04-27T17:48:26 < Laurenceb_> you need atlas lcr
2016-04-27T17:48:26 < Thorn> (dmm agrees)
2016-04-27T17:48:47 < lorenzo> Steffanx: I'm sure they have a part which requires more of the same part. like, "to get this converter to work, you actually need three"
2016-04-27T17:48:49 < Laurenceb_> http://www.peakelec.co.uk/acatalog/jz_lcr40.html
2016-04-27T17:49:37 < Laurenceb_> http://www.peakelec.co.uk/acatalog/jz_instruments.html
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2016-04-27T17:56:25 < ReadError> i wish there was more opensource testing gear
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2016-04-27T18:49:46 < lorenzo> http://www.peakelec.co.uk/acatalog/dca75-dca-pro.html
2016-04-27T18:49:49 < lorenzo> this is kind of beautiful
2016-04-27T18:49:53 < lorenzo> does curve tracing too
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2016-04-27T18:57:32 < Thorn> can it do Rds(on) @ 1.8V, 3.3V, 5V?
2016-04-27T18:58:43 < Thorn> only $150? nice
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2016-04-27T19:19:34 < Martin90> is "gnu arm-none-eabi-gcc" only logical choice for STM32 ?
2016-04-27T19:21:09 < zyp> pretty much
2016-04-27T19:21:18 < zyp> unless you want to go with commercial tools
2016-04-27T19:22:29 < Steffanx> Any news about this j-link stink yet?
2016-04-27T19:22:48 < Martin90> ok thanks, btw I can't find pdf manual for that compiler where is it ?
2016-04-27T19:23:00 < Steffanx> Seems no one is really interested in it because both the segger forum and st forum only have 20 views on the topics about it.
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2016-04-27T19:32:58 < Martin90> where can I find manual for gnu arm-none-eabi-gcc ?
2016-04-27T19:33:16 < Martin90> I failed to google it..o.0
2016-04-27T19:37:24 < Thorn> in the distribution zip. share/doc/gcc-arm-none-eabi/pdf
2016-04-27T19:39:20 < karlp> Steffanx: well, I mean, what new stuff are we expected to get that stlink didn't already do?
2016-04-27T19:41:03 < Thorn> the meter outputs 1.8Vp-p
2016-04-27T19:42:28 < Thorn> can I use it as a function gen :/
2016-04-27T19:42:47 < Laurenceb_> launchpad gcc is now very good
2016-04-27T19:43:07 < Laurenceb_> competitive with my copy of IAR
2016-04-27T19:43:11 < Steffanx> nah, not sure karlp
2016-04-27T19:43:30 < Steffanx> until you go gcc version very recent and get crappy results Laurenceb_
2016-04-27T19:43:41 < Laurenceb_> wut
2016-04-27T19:43:46 < Laurenceb_> newer is worse lulwut
2016-04-27T19:44:31 < Steffanx> I like the segger tooling karlp.
2016-04-27T19:45:44 < Martin90> Thorn: thank you, it really is there but pity they split it into multiple files
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2016-04-27T20:02:48 < Steffanx> btw Fleck, some people are pretty happy with diptrace too, even comes as a semi-free version
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2016-04-27T20:11:30 < Thorn> is 8.5H a believable inductance for a power transformer's secondary?
2016-04-27T20:12:08 < Thorn> er primary
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2016-04-27T20:13:57 < Martin90> Thorn: application of it ?
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2016-04-27T20:15:46 < BrainDamage> what frequency does it work at?
2016-04-27T20:15:59 < Thorn> 50Hz
2016-04-27T20:15:59 < BrainDamage> if it's extremely low, it's a bit high, but not impossible
2016-04-27T20:16:17 < Thorn> and it's small, like 4x4cm
2016-04-27T20:17:18 < Thorn> secondary is 33mH
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2016-04-27T20:19:52 < BrainDamage> so approx 16 winding ratio?
2016-04-27T20:20:01 < BrainDamage> does it output 14-15V?
2016-04-27T20:22:53 < Thorn> datasheet says 11V zero load, 8.5V full load, 7W max
2016-04-27T20:23:10 < Thorn> http://lib.chipdip.ru/041/DOC000041276.pdf (-112-3)
2016-04-27T20:23:33 < kha> the voltage ratio would be squareroot of the inductance ratio
2016-04-27T20:23:39 < kha> in theory (AFAIK)
2016-04-27T20:24:05 < kha> (assuming an ideal transformer)
2016-04-27T20:24:24 < BrainDamage> yes, assuming perfect coupling and the same core permeability and same crossectional area for the coils
2016-04-27T20:25:04 < kha> in realt life small transformers are quite far from ideal ;)
2016-04-27T20:25:24 < kha> toroids are better than 'square' ones
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2016-04-27T20:27:39 < Laurenceb_> https://veuwer.com/i/3t1g.jpg
2016-04-27T20:31:58 < Steffanx> old
2016-04-27T20:32:39 < Thorn> a much larger one has L(primary)=1.02H
2016-04-27T20:36:50 < Laurenceb_> on topic of SMPS and stuff
2016-04-27T20:37:04 < Laurenceb_> how do you limit inrush currents to SMPS capacitors?
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2016-04-27T20:46:33 < qyx> http://www.orderonenetworks.com/styled-5/index.html
2016-04-27T20:46:41 < qyx> are they serious with the sleep(10) at the end?
2016-04-27T20:47:42 < Laurenceb_> well maybe it runs on an rtos
2016-04-27T20:48:04 < Laurenceb_> oh they loop for incoming poackets
2016-04-27T20:48:06 < Laurenceb_> lol
2016-04-27T20:48:14 < Laurenceb_> yeah that should wake up the thread
2016-04-27T20:48:16 < qyx> yes with 10ms delay between them
2016-04-27T20:48:45 < qyx> so in the worst case it can cause up to 10ms delay in processing
2016-04-27T20:50:11 < qyx> oh https://gdmissionsystems.com/radios/fortress-wireless-mesh-networks/fortress-es2440-infrastructure-mesh-point/
2016-04-27T20:51:50 < qyx> 30W power draw, much
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2016-04-27T22:55:11 < Rob235> hobbyking is slow
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2016-04-27T22:56:08 < ReadError> pay for fast shipping
2016-04-27T22:56:16 < Rob235> I'm waiting for them to ship
2016-04-27T22:56:46 < ReadError> apparently there was a large breach
2016-04-27T22:56:55 < ReadError> and a bunch of account shit got out
2016-04-27T22:57:06 < ReadError> and russians are scamming stuff to themselves
2016-04-27T22:57:23 < ReadError> Rob235 you missed it, yesterday they had the taranis on sale for 89$
2016-04-27T22:57:28 < Rob235> I know it's ridiculous but I got my wire from there and I ran out (only need 1 meter black 18awg and 3 meters blue 24awg) and I can't finish with different wire
2016-04-27T22:57:30 < ReadError> and they actually shipped
2016-04-27T22:57:45 < Rob235> the x9d?
2016-04-27T22:57:54 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-27T22:57:55 < ReadError> w/ RX
2016-04-27T22:57:59 < Rob235> wow
2016-04-27T22:58:07 < Rob235> that happens to be what I have already though
2016-04-27T22:58:13 < Rob235> the x9d plus
2016-04-27T22:58:21 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/VIGG/chrome-2016-04-26-20-23-13.png
2016-04-27T22:58:22 < Rob235> with x8r receiver
2016-04-27T22:58:28 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/ZFLQ/chrome-2016-04-26-20-17-53.png
2016-04-27T22:59:18 < ReadError> ya i got 2
2016-04-27T22:59:24 < ReadError> but for 89$ fuckit
2016-04-27T22:59:29 < ReadError> ill sell my non-plus
2016-04-27T22:59:49 < Rob235> I haven't even used mine yet :(
2016-04-27T23:04:15 < Rob235> hmm $240 for a 6TB drive...
2016-04-27T23:04:20 < Rob235> my 2TB is full
2016-04-27T23:04:45 < Steffanx> download less porn.
2016-04-27T23:05:02 < Rob235> I don't keep porn on my computers, who wants to watch a porn more than once?
2016-04-27T23:05:07 < Steffanx> just rewatch the old stuff :P
2016-04-27T23:05:20 < Steffanx> no favourites?
2016-04-27T23:05:29 < Rob235> I bookmark some
2016-04-27T23:05:45 < Steffanx> :P
2016-04-27T23:06:57 < Rob235> I gotta figure out how I want to handle animation changing and initialization for ws2812 led strips
2016-04-27T23:15:08 < Rob235> what's a good external drive enclosure?
2016-04-27T23:18:46 < ReadError> Rob235 not a seagate drive right?
2016-04-27T23:18:52 < Rob235> no
2016-04-27T23:18:59 < Rob235> probably a WD Red
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2016-04-27T23:47:18 < Rob235> hmmm 6TB for $240 or 4TB for $150
2016-04-27T23:47:40 < ReadError> 2x 4TB
2016-04-27T23:48:18 < ReadError> i mean really tho, if you are using this for storage
2016-04-27T23:48:23 < ReadError> you should have 2 anyways
2016-04-27T23:49:15 < Rob235> its for media, I think I'm gonna go with the 4
2016-04-27T23:49:54 < Rob235> $190 for 4TB + enclosure isn't bad
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2016-04-27T23:50:00 < Rob235> plug it into my router and there you go
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2016-04-28T00:22:18 < Rob235> 4tb ordered :)
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2016-04-28T01:07:50 < kakimir> wheres my bidz
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2016-04-28T01:53:46 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2016-04-28T01:55:19 < kakimir> he's here
2016-04-28T01:55:51 < kakimir> how does canada work?
2016-04-28T01:56:03 < kakimir> it has like 2 cities containing all the people
2016-04-28T01:56:11 < kakimir> and wilderness
2016-04-28T01:56:24 < ReadError> huh
2016-04-28T01:56:28 < ReadError> r u dumb m8?
2016-04-28T01:58:26 < Laurenceb> how do I canada
2016-04-28T01:58:57 < kakimir> and they are not cock out about anything they do like their neighbor and nobody really knows what else they produce than mapple syryp
2016-04-28T02:06:21 < kakimir> is there such hardware breakpoints that would have condition to them?
2016-04-28T02:08:02 < kakimir> I think I could just make if-condition with something useless inside to attach breakpoint to
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2016-04-28T02:18:24 < ReadError> you can set them in eclipse
2016-04-28T02:18:29 < ReadError> i duno about other stuff
2016-04-28T02:18:37 < kakimir> what was the command to do undone chores and then continue?
2016-04-28T02:19:01 < kakimir> doing all the loads stores and stuff
2016-04-28T02:20:53 < kakimir> is breakpoint conditions ever nativelly suported by hardware?
2016-04-28T02:20:56 < kakimir> *are
2016-04-28T02:28:46 < ReadError> i duno i just know ive done it before
2016-04-28T02:28:53 < ReadError> never cared to look further
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2016-04-28T02:34:11 < Laurenceb> hmm I've screwed up a git repo massivly somehow
2016-04-28T02:34:20 < Laurenceb> dunno what I'm doing lol
2016-04-28T02:35:00 < Laurenceb> I've got two machines, I ssh into machine 2, and git add -A, git push etc, then git pull from the remote repository on machine 1
2016-04-28T02:35:09 < Laurenceb> but I can see a ton of work is missing
2016-04-28T02:35:36 < Laurenceb> I don't think machine 2 is tracking the correct head
2016-04-28T02:35:51 < Laurenceb> how can i see a "tree" of whats happening on machine 2 from machine 1 ?
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2016-04-28T02:43:43 < Laurenceb> sheeeettt
2016-04-28T02:43:48 < Laurenceb> this is why command line fails
2016-04-28T02:47:24 < Laurenceb> git log seriously needs a tree style viewer
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2016-04-28T03:00:44 < kakimir> what was the command to do all pending memory operations Laurenceb ?
2016-04-28T03:00:55 < kakimir> __XXX()
2016-04-28T03:00:59 < Laurenceb> dmb or something
2016-04-28T03:01:05 < Laurenceb> check my i2c code
2016-04-28T03:01:30 < kakimir> barrier
2016-04-28T03:01:34 < kakimir> thanks
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2016-04-28T03:08:40 < Laurenceb> was someone here making an induction heater?
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2016-04-28T03:08:45 < upgrdman> me
2016-04-28T03:08:45 < Laurenceb> I forgot who it was lol
2016-04-28T03:08:48 < Laurenceb> ah cool
2016-04-28T03:08:56  * Laurenceb is planning to make an EDM machine
2016-04-28T03:09:02 < upgrdman> nice!
2016-04-28T03:09:09 < Laurenceb> turns out it will kill capacitors according to spice
2016-04-28T03:09:17 < Laurenceb> how did you solve your capacitor issues?
2016-04-28T03:09:32 < upgrdman> i took Sync's advise
2016-04-28T03:09:40 < upgrdman> which was to use some PHGsomethings
2016-04-28T03:09:45 < upgrdman> lemmes look it up again
2016-04-28T03:10:26 < upgrdman> PHG491
2016-04-28T03:10:27 < upgrdman> http://www.farrellf.com/temp/induction_heater_revG.jpg
2016-04-28T03:10:30 < Laurenceb> oh cool
2016-04-28T03:11:08 < upgrdman> used ones for $30ish
2016-04-28T03:11:09 < upgrdman> http://www.amazon.com/RIFA-PHG-2000V-DC-CAPACITOR-D517650/dp/B018J1P6DW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461802239&sr=8-1&keywords=phg491
2016-04-28T03:11:18 < Laurenceb> I've scored a 25A, 30V supply
2016-04-28T03:11:23 < upgrdman> althought i think i paid like $25ish when i bought mine used
2016-04-28T03:11:26 < Laurenceb> tempted to try RC at first
2016-04-28T03:11:29 < Laurenceb> ok
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2016-04-28T03:11:57 < Laurenceb> but I'd like to make a mosfet or igbt supply as the performance is so much better
2016-04-28T03:12:11 < upgrdman> ya
2016-04-28T03:12:42 < Laurenceb> you can reduce the electrode wear fraction from about 0.1 to 0.001 or less
2016-04-28T03:14:16 < kakimir> how to show assembly of certain line in disassembly viewer without runnin into it?
2016-04-28T03:14:33 < kakimir> I mean find it
2016-04-28T03:14:42  * Laurenceb zzz
2016-04-28T03:16:04 < kakimir> the fuq it's 2016
2016-04-28T03:16:07 < karlp> ohsix: when you say that esp05 has a "hirose" connector, what exactly do you mean? esp05 has uart pins only, and needs an external antenna, it's like the worse version you could buy
2016-04-28T03:17:58 < karlp> what's an EDM machine?
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2016-04-28T03:20:12 < upgrdman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_discharge_machining
2016-04-28T03:24:33 < kakimir> interestings
2016-04-28T03:25:52 < kakimir> hard metals to tolerances
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2016-04-28T03:35:27 < kakimir> HardFault - time to sleep
2016-04-28T03:35:49 < kakimir> first 2hours of animal videos
2016-04-28T03:52:18 < kakimir> I go to scrap yard tommorrow
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2016-04-28T03:54:08 < kakimir> to be dismantled
2016-04-28T03:54:52 < kakimir> jk, I go find scrap treasure
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2016-04-28T04:19:58 < upgrdman> feels so good to be back in the first world
2016-04-28T04:20:06 < upgrdman> internet that actually works
2016-04-28T04:22:31 < upgrdman> *lands back in the first world* ... *37 updates are available* on my phone
2016-04-28T04:23:00 < upgrdman> i've gotta get vpn sorted out on my phone for next time. sucks only having vpn access on the laptop
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2016-04-28T04:47:39 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChFXkORWkAExWPA.jpg:large lewl
2016-04-28T04:51:14 < upgrdman> ohsix, hey
2016-04-28T04:51:59 < upgrdman> lol @ win10
2016-04-28T04:52:08 < dongs> http://ib149186.ib-prod.com/p/557781/sp/55778100/serveFlavor/entryId/0_och2y9ej/v/2/flavorId/0_lmq4cemq/forceproxy/true/name/a.mp4
2016-04-28T04:52:15 < dongs> video proof not shopped
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2016-04-28T04:55:31 < upgrdman> sup R2COM
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2016-04-28T05:02:35 < upgrdman> why not both
2016-04-28T05:04:12 < upgrdman> R2COM, why were you trying to change your tired in the middle of the road?  http://i.imgur.com/lyFB18P.gifv
2016-04-28T05:04:18 < upgrdman> s/tired/tire
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2016-04-28T05:06:40 < upgrdman> found crt  http://i.imgur.com/azdjR4g.gif
2016-04-28T05:08:36 < upgrdman> dongs, https://youtu.be/2cYHVAzQIWs?t=8
2016-04-28T05:14:37 < dongs> upgrdman: lool.
2016-04-28T05:14:56 < upgrdman> :)
2016-04-28T05:15:43 < dongs> R2COM: D3D of course
2016-04-28T05:16:21 < dongs> the only reason opengl is still alive is like 3 lunix people who keep using it
2016-04-28T05:16:50 < dongs> every feature in it since like 1989 has been just a tacked-on 'extension' thats up to the vendor to implement properly
2016-04-28T05:25:56 < dongs> http://blog.adl.org/extremism/white-supremacists-feud-over-the-racist-gender-gap
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2016-04-28T06:29:48 < dongs> http://claremontindependent.com/student-senator-picture-of-gun-is-a-threat-to-black-mental-and-emotional-health/
2016-04-28T06:33:13 < dongs> black lives matter even when they dont matter
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2016-04-28T07:34:40 < ReadError> wtf does stlink utility not install under win10?
2016-04-28T07:38:04 < ReadError> wtf * 2
2016-04-28T07:38:06 < ReadError> http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/PF258168
2016-04-28T07:38:10 < ReadError> do those pdfs work?
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2016-04-28T09:42:03 < dongs> readstoner: yes
2016-04-28T09:42:08 < dongs> you have to click on the "pdf" i con
2016-04-28T09:42:23 < dongs> which generic cheap baofeng should I get
2016-04-28T09:42:39 < dongs> looking at BF-U3 or osmething
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2016-04-28T10:09:31 < dongs> fuckit, its only liek 14 bucks
2016-04-28T10:09:39 < dongs> if it sucks ill throw away and get another one
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2016-04-28T10:19:42 < ReadError> dongs ya but clicking the icon had some server error shit
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2016-04-28T10:23:16 < dongs> not for me
2016-04-28T10:24:24 < ReadError> nah it didnt throw a server side error
2016-04-28T10:24:38 < ReadError> but chrome was saying 'problem with remote' or something
2016-04-28T10:25:18 < dongs> you got chinahacked
2016-04-28T10:26:02 < ReadError> works now
2016-04-28T10:26:15 < ReadError> ST's site shits the bed all the time tho
2016-04-28T10:27:44 < ReadError> pretty sure their IT team is indian
2016-04-28T10:27:54 < dongs> no, its italian
2016-04-28T10:29:15 < ReadError> well whatever they are they cant run a website worth a shit
2016-04-28T10:30:46 < ReadError> multi trillion dollar app idea
2016-04-28T10:30:58 < ReadError> browser plugins that let you highlight and submit rage
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2016-04-28T10:32:48 < ReadError> nah like this would go back to the webmasters or w/e
2016-04-28T10:34:07 < dongs> what the fuck
2016-04-28T10:34:15 < dongs> is flash on tarduino sam3x8e so fragile
2016-04-28T10:34:23 < dongs> dickhead made 10 boards
2016-04-28T10:34:30 < dongs> 2 are repeatedly failing verify during flashing
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2016-04-28T10:42:38 < dongs> china 8000mAh 1S lipo cells are $4.5/ea
2016-04-28T10:42:39 < dongs> hmm
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2016-04-28T11:03:33 < dongs> damn my host local network is awful on esxi
2016-04-28T11:03:40 < dongs> 15meg/sec over scp what the hell
2016-04-28T11:05:37 < ReadError> hmmmm so the unfuck feature of win10 is pretty nice
2016-04-28T11:05:48 < ReadError> dongs from the host?
2016-04-28T11:05:53 < ReadError> its rate limited
2016-04-28T11:06:20 < ReadError> idk my MSI shit was completely hosed
2016-04-28T11:06:40 < ReadError> no no
2016-04-28T11:06:44 < ReadError> the microsoft installer
2016-04-28T11:06:46 < ReadError> shit
2016-04-28T11:06:48 < ReadError> .msi
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2016-04-28T11:11:01 < ReadError> whats a good tool to image an install
2016-04-28T11:11:09 < ReadError> that works with UEFI shit
2016-04-28T11:12:10 < ReadError> huh wix? not finding anything
2016-04-28T11:12:21 < dongs> looks like autism in progress
2016-04-28T11:12:31 < ReadError> dongs any suggestions?
2016-04-28T11:12:44 < dongs> no, i stopped caring about windows stuff ages ago
2016-04-28T11:12:50 < dongs> with proper administration it takes literally liek 1 hour
2016-04-28T11:12:54 < dongs> to reinstall everything to a usable desktop
2016-04-28T11:12:57 < ReadError> yea i just did it in 30 mins
2016-04-28T11:13:07 < dongs> i havent imaged anything since like 2001
2016-04-28T11:13:21 < ReadError> the UEFI stuff blows
2016-04-28T11:13:45 < ReadError> most old tools dont work
2016-04-28T11:13:52 < ReadError> so funny shit
2016-04-28T11:14:06 < ReadError> i enabled safemode since windows was being a bitch about removing and replacing a driver
2016-04-28T11:14:23 < ReadError> in safemode, go to replace, it was for USB 3.0
2016-04-28T11:14:28 < ReadError> all USB shit breaks
2016-04-28T11:14:41 < ReadError> cant login to safemode, cant rdp
2016-04-28T11:14:49 < ReadError> apparently theres no way to unfuck this
2016-04-28T11:14:59 < ReadError> like bcdedit doesnt work w/ it
2016-04-28T11:15:44 < ReadError> no, you cant make it not boot into safemode
2016-04-28T11:15:49 < ReadError> theres no file you can edit etc
2016-04-28T11:16:13 < PeterM> ReadError, whatcha lookin for/did you fuck up?
2016-04-28T11:16:25 < ReadError> PeterM well its fixed now
2016-04-28T11:16:44 < ReadError> but basically it was stuck booting into safemode but no input, couldnt log in etc since usb was completely hosed
2016-04-28T11:16:56 < ReadError> could get to cmd.exe, but bcdedit didnt work since UEFI
2016-04-28T11:18:15 < PeterM> so you just run the windows startup repair and forgetaboutit.exe?
2016-04-28T11:18:27 < ReadError> nah, had to restore to something earlier
2016-04-28T11:18:33 < ReadError> which is what fucked my MSI stuff
2016-04-28T11:18:49 < ReadError> the startup repair thing didnt work
2016-04-28T11:18:52 < PeterM> msi stuff?
2016-04-28T11:19:03 < ReadError> microsoft installer
2016-04-28T11:19:06 < PeterM> ahh
2016-04-28T11:19:17 < PeterM> thats odd
2016-04-28T11:19:29 < PeterM> so, what did you fuick up that caused this problem?
2016-04-28T11:19:46 < PeterM> i mean, computers only really do what yo utell them to...
2016-04-28T11:20:08 < ReadError> PeterM trying to swap a usb 3.0 driver
2016-04-28T11:20:41 < ReadError> oh ya PeterM did you see that new ali script?
2016-04-28T11:20:51 < PeterM> which one?
2016-04-28T11:20:51 < ReadError> [7] i think changed it
2016-04-28T11:20:57 < PeterM> link
2016-04-28T11:21:35 < ReadError> ya tha
2016-04-28T11:21:44 < PeterM> ?
2016-04-28T11:23:21 < ReadError> [04:21:20] ohsix:	16:58 < [7]> ReadError, PeterM: I've improved the script a bit: http://pastie.org/pastes/10812965/text
2016-04-28T11:24:56 < ReadError> PeterM he added the min/max qty back
2016-04-28T11:26:01 < PeterM> you mean this https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/aliexpress-tampermonkey ?
2016-04-28T11:27:14 < PeterM> also, i hate the list view, its like "4k monitor and narrow strip of shit? jsut what i want"
2016-04-28T11:27:39 < ReadError> oh nice you added it already
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2016-04-28T11:31:40 < karlp> ReadError: what do we look like here, cloning time wasting pumpers or something?
2016-04-28T11:32:12 < ReadError> nope, fucking legend
2016-04-28T11:34:50 < karlp> ohsix: that's not a "hirose" connectors, that's a u.FL connector.  hirose is a company that maks connectors, likely more known for lcd edge connectors that just makeing uFLs for mini wireless shits.
2016-04-28T11:40:41 < karlp> yeah, and uFL isn't ont he first few pages of results in images :)
2016-04-28T11:40:51 < karlp> oh, there's one.
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2016-04-28T12:20:19 < PeterM> anyone in the US need to buy solder anytime soon, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kester-Solder-015inch-Diameter-63-Tin-37-Lead-RMA-Core-24-6337-9703-1lb-NEW-/131628624291?hash=item1ea5ad69a3:g:Th8AAOSwI-BWH0to is pretty cehap
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2016-04-28T12:30:05 < ReadError> i got the noclean version, same diameter
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2016-04-28T12:32:54 < ReadError> of what
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2016-04-28T13:07:21 < dongs> blogging
2016-04-28T13:07:28 < dongs> installing PHP like a pro
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2016-04-28T13:11:56 < qyx> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Corporate-Identity/would-like-for-someone-design/
2016-04-28T13:11:59 < qyx> uhm
2016-04-28T13:12:15 < dongs> saw that one
2016-04-28T13:14:03 < dongs> o i got invited to some retartd project
2016-04-28T13:14:06 < dongs> i hope its closed by now
2016-04-28T13:14:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Embedded-Software/Embedded-Device-Firmware-Debugging-10348172/
2016-04-28T13:14:50 < dongs> attn upgrdman
2016-04-28T13:16:20 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Sony-ILX-Linear-CCD-Sensor/
2016-04-28T13:16:21 < dongs> haha
2016-04-28T13:16:40 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Automotive-Engineer-for-Norwegian/ attn zyp
2016-04-28T13:16:44 < dongs> those carfags are back
2016-04-28T13:16:53 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/espenkvalvik.html
2016-04-28T13:19:54 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/UZZivqg.jpg
2016-04-28T13:33:03 < Thorn> China LCDs work with 3.3V interface, contain kana (I think) in the upper half, look nice (white on blue), cost <$2
2016-04-28T13:33:40 < Thorn> pinout is exactly the same as winstar wh1602b
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2016-04-28T13:38:49 < Thorn> http://i.imgur.com/Zt5HvDo.jpg
2016-04-28T13:43:15 < zyp> katana
2016-04-28T13:47:06 < ReadError> Hello Error,
2016-04-28T13:47:21 < ReadError> this chinese lady is convinced this is my name
2016-04-28T13:47:59 < Thorn> at least she isn't calling you Failure
2016-04-28T13:49:49 < PeterM> ReadError, i have an irl friend whos name is Tiny Wang
2016-04-28T13:50:50 < ReadError> did his parents hate him?
2016-04-28T13:53:36 < PeterM> hes as aussie as getting a bindy in your thongs
2016-04-28T13:54:02 < PeterM> ReadError, probably at some stage, but that happens to everyone
2016-04-28T14:00:04 < PeterM> crt go suck a fat duck
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2016-04-28T14:10:46 < Thorn> >Note: that this function is available in Auto L and Auto
2016-04-28T14:10:46 < Thorn>  C modes only. In other modes the D/Q/ESR/Θ key is
2016-04-28T14:10:46 < Thorn>  disabled.
2016-04-28T14:12:02 < dongs> wat
2016-04-28T14:13:09 < Thorn> the meter has C series, C parallel, L series, L parallel modes. if you select series/parallel manually you can't make it display ESR etc.
2016-04-28T14:13:20 < Thorn> only D on C mode and Q in L mode
2016-04-28T14:15:58 < Steffanx> Dont die crt.
2016-04-28T14:16:08 < mitrax> crt: plan coming together?
2016-04-28T14:17:16 < dongs> pump coming together more like
2016-04-28T14:20:47 < mitrax> crt: my teeth are bleeding
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2016-04-28T14:23:42 < mitrax> fucking flies
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2016-04-28T14:40:43 < Steffanx> Awh
2016-04-28T14:42:52 < Steffanx> How is it keiling?
2016-04-28T14:44:32 < Steffanx> Too much nicotine?
2016-04-28T14:45:06 < Thorn> looks like it's the other way round. D/Q/ESR/Θ doesn't work in "Auto LCR" mode, whatever that is
2016-04-28T14:45:18 < Sync> karlp: you were talking about RT controllers the other day, do you have any experience with profibus?
2016-04-28T14:45:19 < Thorn> it works in semi-auto and manual modes
2016-04-28T14:45:30 < Thorn> it works in semi-auto and manual modes
2016-04-28T14:45:36 < Thorn> oops
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2016-04-28T14:55:34 < Laurenceb_> lul thats isis video
2016-04-28T14:55:56 < Laurenceb_> kind of sad at the end, even if they deserved it :-/
2016-04-28T14:56:06 < ReadError> wat vid
2016-04-28T14:57:29 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I
2016-04-28T14:57:36 < Laurenceb_> inb4 vice lul
2016-04-28T14:58:04 < Laurenceb_> the 4 lions go to Syria
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2016-04-28T15:05:42 < karlp> Sync: not yet, have looked at it enough to know that we _could_ theoretically do it on rs485 raw, though it seems people normally buy a special chip for it.
2016-04-28T15:06:13 < karlp> we were doing a bit of evaluation of alternative protocols that might make products more appealing ot other markets.  currently we just do modbus
2016-04-28T15:09:20 < Sync> karlp: you can do it with raw rs485 but the spec is not free
2016-04-28T15:09:27 < Sync> which is where we are hitting roadblocks
2016-04-28T15:09:49 < Sync> apparently there are a few software stacks but they are not free
2016-04-28T15:11:21 < Sync> sign me up if you are hacking something, I'm in for the ride then
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2016-04-28T15:12:49 < karlp> Sync: more the other way around sorry.  I got as far as you got by the sound of it.  "should be doable, just have to do the whole spec thing"
2016-04-28T15:13:14 < karlp> we're more likely to add bacnet before profibus, but... I'm definitely curious in profibus too.
2016-04-28T15:13:45 < karlp> Sync: there's an old avr free stack for profibus at some level I thought?
2016-04-28T15:13:55 < Sync> well, yeah
2016-04-28T15:14:02 < Sync> there is that S7 raspi thing
2016-04-28T15:14:08 < Sync> but I could not figure it out
2016-04-28T15:14:14 < karlp> what s7 raspi?
2016-04-28T15:14:21 < Sync> there also is a pro stack in proview
2016-04-28T15:14:37 < karlp> well, you can just buy one of the chips if you want to pay
2016-04-28T15:14:47 < Sync> https://bues.ch/cms/hacking/profibus.html
2016-04-28T15:14:49 < Sync> dis shit
2016-04-28T15:15:02 < Sync> well I'm not interested in writing a driver for the siemens asics ;)
2016-04-28T15:15:07 < Sync> when I can just talk it directly
2016-04-28T15:15:31 < karlp> that was my thought :)
2016-04-28T15:15:45 < karlp> you canbuy non siemens asics, there's one other vendor :)
2016-04-28T15:15:46 < karlp> anyway, gotta run
2016-04-28T15:17:41 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/oyMgrsl
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2016-04-28T15:36:20 < jpa-> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36893251/why-does-the-enhanced-gcc-6-optimizer-break-practical-c++-code   > enhanced gcc   > practical c++ code
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2016-04-28T16:07:31 < Laurenceb_> http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/90662/1461835417/adele.jpg
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2016-04-28T16:22:25 < Steffanx> Karlp agreed, the segger jlink stink sucks arse
2016-04-28T16:22:29 < Steffanx> Such restrictions
2016-04-28T16:23:40 < Laurenceb_> works for me too
2016-04-28T16:23:46 < jpa-> what restrictions?
2016-04-28T16:24:01 < Steffanx> Nah i was talking about the jlink firmware for stlink
2016-04-28T16:24:04 < Steffanx> St only
2016-04-28T16:24:19 < Steffanx> Evaluation boards only no custom hw
2016-04-28T16:24:31 < jpa-> huh, how have they done that?
2016-04-28T16:24:36 < Steffanx> Unlimited bp is in evaluation mode
2016-04-28T16:24:51 < Steffanx> Segger released the fw for it
2016-04-28T16:25:10 < Steffanx> I guess st helped them
2016-04-28T16:25:10 < jpa-> sure i know that
2016-04-28T16:25:26 < jpa-> but i mean, what is the difference between stm32 on evalboard and stm32 on custom board?
2016-04-28T16:25:41 < Steffanx> Oh user agreement ;)
2016-04-28T16:25:53 < jpa-> ah :D
2016-04-28T16:26:16 < Steffanx> Was already like: how can jpa not know this
2016-04-28T16:27:56 < jpa-> i know only because karlp told :)
2016-04-28T16:28:21 < PeterM> are st gonna do any dual "micro" micros, like a m7+ l0 or something
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2016-04-28T16:50:16 < zyp> crt, switch to orcad
2016-04-28T16:51:25 < zyp> no
2016-04-28T16:52:29 < dongs> orcad causes cancer
2016-04-28T17:05:37 < Steffanx> So what does crt use?
2016-04-28T17:05:52 < Steffanx> Russian altium?
2016-04-28T17:05:59 < dongs> eagle.exe
2016-04-28T17:07:49 < Steffanx> Not pirating...
2016-04-28T17:08:41 < Steffanx> Student license when not studenting is pirating too
2016-04-28T17:09:09 < Steffanx> Good boy
2016-04-28T17:13:43 < dongs> goodluckbuy
2016-04-28T17:13:57 < Laurenceb_> goodgoy
2016-04-28T17:15:26 < dongs> bedtime
2016-04-28T17:17:20 < zyp> Steffanx, pff
2016-04-28T17:18:27 < zyp> the altium license I'm using for hobby stuff belongs to my former employer
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2016-04-28T17:19:02 < zyp> they don't mind me using it
2016-04-28T17:19:17 < zyp> but then again, none of the people with access to it is employed there anymore
2016-04-28T17:21:27 < zyp> and I still own shares in the company, so I kinda have some ownership to it too :p
2016-04-28T17:24:05 < Thorn> my korad psu is still not exported from china after over 3 weeks :/
2016-04-28T17:24:37 < Thorn> "Hello, dear friend, we send out the goods, and the goods is safe on the way ,because not update the tracking information now,if have the new information,we can inform you soon. pls wait the goods patiently."
2016-04-28T17:25:34 < ReadError> Thorn im getting jerked off the same way right now
2016-04-28T17:25:44 < ReadError> by some different chinese probably
2016-04-28T17:26:18 < Thorn> aliexpress had a huge sale, mayme their post / customs are still overloaded
2016-04-28T17:26:36 < Thorn> but another package arrived in 3 weeks
2016-04-28T17:26:56 < ReadError> these guys sent me another tracking # after i called them on the first (wasnt a real number)
2016-04-28T17:27:02 < ReadError> 2nd one shows created on the 16th
2016-04-28T17:27:06 < ReadError> hasnt been picked up
2016-04-28T17:27:20 < ReadError> today i told em, fuck this give me a refund
2016-04-28T17:28:03 < ReadError> I am sincerely sorry for your experience .And I are trying my best to resolve this issue .
2016-04-28T17:28:04 < ReadError> I understand your feeling very much .But indeed the most important thing is whether you can receive your pacakge .
2016-04-28T17:28:04 < ReadError> So please let us wait for the result .
2016-04-28T17:28:04 < ReadError> When you receive your package ,I will submit with my manager and help you make some compensation .
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2016-04-28T17:36:14 < ReadError> new machine is so fastly at building and debugging
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2016-04-28T17:41:44 < Steffanx> Specs fapping time ReadError.
2016-04-28T17:42:19 < ReadError> moo: os: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise - (10.0.10586) up: 6hrs 49mins 46secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz (x64) at 3300MHz gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 -2.00GB res: 3840x2160 32bit 59Hz ram: 33898/65447MB (51.79%) [|||||-----] hdd: C:\ 155.63GB/237.92GB D:\ 659.57GB/931.39GB E:\ 89.64GB/465.63GB net: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - 1000MB/s 1.96GB In
2016-04-28T17:42:20 < ReadError> 326.53MB Out
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2016-04-28T17:43:10 < Thorn> Realtek Controller best Controller
2016-04-28T17:43:22 < ReadError> its got an intel one too
2016-04-28T17:43:33 < ReadError> just randomly jamed a cable in and got this
2016-04-28T17:44:21 < Steffanx> 64gb ram?!
2016-04-28T17:44:27 < ReadError> yea
2016-04-28T17:44:50 < dongs> all that to run pirated altium
2016-04-28T17:44:53 < Steffanx> 32 in use. What. Are. Thou. Doing?
2016-04-28T17:44:53 < dongs> fucking cloner faggot
2016-04-28T17:44:57 < Steffanx> Vm much?
2016-04-28T17:45:17 < ReadError> i got 2 open
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2016-04-28T17:46:59 < Thorn> just open a couple hundred tabs in chrome. it can eat any amount of ram
2016-04-28T17:47:05 < ReadError> oh ya, easily
2016-04-28T17:47:18 < ReadError> i use TheGreatSuspender now, it helps
2016-04-28T17:55:01 < ac|work> hi all, i need this https://github.com/freetronics/DMD2
2016-04-28T17:55:10 < ac|work> on stm32f103
2016-04-28T17:55:32 < ac|work> its really write on pure C ?
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2016-04-28T17:56:50 < ac|work> i dont know what say to my chef by time ^)
2016-04-28T17:59:48 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y original innovations
2016-04-28T17:59:55 < kakimir> for inspirations
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2016-04-28T18:01:27 < kakimir> they use slow spoll up and then breaking action
2016-04-28T18:02:29 < Thorn> ac|work: you have to port that library. replace everything arduino-specific with stm32 equivalent
2016-04-28T18:04:24 < ac|work> i know what i need, i want know spended time
2016-04-28T18:05:00 < Thorn> if you have to ask you can't estimate it accurately
2016-04-28T18:05:40 < ac|work> maybe
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2016-04-28T18:06:26 < ac|work> i have own hal for stm32 and never translate from arruino to C
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2016-04-28T18:12:14 < Thorn> maybe yuo should implement the protocol yourself using the existing library as a guide, rather than trying to port the library directly
2016-04-28T18:13:42 < Thorn> the result could be better than the original if you use things they didn't have (maybe timers or something)
2016-04-28T18:14:01 < ac|work> i hate *duino, write yours :)
2016-04-28T18:25:52 < Laurenceb_> I hate the ads1298
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2016-04-28T18:44:07 < Laurenceb_> https://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9039715&cid=52002971
2016-04-28T18:46:33 < lorenzo> lol, $399 hair dryer
2016-04-28T18:47:31 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4SDDNXuUA&ab_channel=JeffQuitney
2016-04-28T18:49:03 < ac|work> $399??
2016-04-28T18:59:08 < Thorn> can you repurpose it for a cruise missile
2016-04-28T18:59:10 < Thorn> if yes, totally worth it
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2016-04-28T19:18:37 < qyx> any recommended usb->serial converters?
2016-04-28T19:18:42 < qyx> nothing in zypsnips
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2016-04-28T19:19:09 < qyx> there is a warning against cp210x
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2016-04-28T19:19:46 < zyp> isn't cp the good one?
2016-04-28T19:19:54 < zyp> ftdi is expensive and pl is shitty
2016-04-28T19:20:11 < lorenzo> qyx: I have no issues with cp210x, as long as you get the genuine one. they have a eval board for 5$
2016-04-28T19:20:13 < lorenzo> http://www.silabs.com/products/interface/Pages/cp2104-mini.aspx
2016-04-28T19:20:38 < lorenzo> never stressed it like they did in the zypsnips document though.
2016-04-28T19:20:48 < lorenzo> oh and i/o directions are one time programmable, but that doesn't sound like your use case
2016-04-28T19:21:11 < qyx> no, I just need it for a serial console
2016-04-28T19:22:11 < qyx> ok, I'll go with the cp2102
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2016-04-28T19:32:35 < ReadError> qyx the 2104 is smaller and cheaper
2016-04-28T19:36:45 < XTL> I like them, too. Generally the least spotty driver support. Others all fail somewhere.
2016-04-28T19:37:08 < XTL> I'm sure the cp ones have some problem but it hasn't bit me yet
2016-04-28T19:37:42 < ReadError> like what?
2016-04-28T19:38:08 < lorenzo> ReadError: https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/usb-serial-stuff....
2016-04-28T19:38:48 < ReadError> pl2303 ? gtfo
2016-04-28T19:39:40 < lorenzo> yeah, pl2303 sucks
2016-04-28T19:40:14 < lorenzo> I had taken some captures let me check
2016-04-28T19:40:25 < lorenzo> http://i.imgur.com/PZSmx35.png -> pl2303 output :D
2016-04-28T19:41:13 < ReadError> filthy
2016-04-28T19:41:36 < ReadError> plus its big and nasty
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2016-04-28T19:44:37 < lorenzo> http://i.imgur.com/6BqDKpv.png -> fake ftdi
2016-04-28T19:44:40 < lorenzo> still much much better
2016-04-28T19:45:00 < lorenzo> sometimes I like to check the obvious :-)
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2016-04-28T19:47:24 < Laurenceb_> cp2102 ftw
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2016-04-28T19:51:45 < ReadError> i was using them
2016-04-28T19:51:51 < ReadError> but domestic the 2104 is cheaper
2016-04-28T19:51:58 < ReadError> and smaller, so kawaii
2016-04-28T19:52:09 < qyx> farnell doesn't stock them :S
2016-04-28T19:52:12 < qyx> only 2102
2016-04-28T19:52:45 < ReadError> i ali'd up fiddy of em
2016-04-28T19:52:51 < ReadError> keep stock for while
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2016-04-28T19:58:59 < Steffanx> I know what mr D would say now: Cloner
2016-04-28T19:59:02 < Steffanx> ;)
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2016-04-28T20:00:34 < Thorn> where do chinese sellers get western components for cheap?
2016-04-28T20:00:42 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
2016-04-28T20:00:50 < Thorn> (I assume not everything they sell is clones)
2016-04-28T20:02:05 < Steffanx> All manufacturered in china, probably fell of the truck.
2016-04-28T20:02:30 < Thorn> or an extra night shift at the factory?
2016-04-28T20:03:09 < lorenzo> Thorn: ghost shifts I guess
2016-04-28T20:03:22 < lorenzo> some bigger stuff (e.g. power transistors) is unsoldered and sold as new
2016-04-28T20:03:30 < lorenzo> there was this nice article by bunnie
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2016-04-28T20:10:51 < Blok> How do I perform repeated DMA requests?
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2016-04-28T20:20:48 < qyx> when connecting microsd to stm32, do you use external pullups (like on olimex boards) or only internal?
2016-04-28T20:24:44 < Laurenceb_> external
2016-04-28T20:25:16 < Laurenceb_> this is disturbingly similar to to catch a predator
2016-04-28T20:25:21 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkO2_LdgSas
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2016-04-28T20:34:56 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: how is your ADM-project?
2016-04-28T20:35:54 < Laurenceb_> failing hard
2016-04-28T20:36:08 < kakimir> try harder
2016-04-28T20:36:13 < Laurenceb_> would be faster to built it starting with opamps
2016-04-28T20:36:43 < kakimir> hmm
2016-04-28T20:36:58 < kakimir> I meant Anti Drone Missile
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2016-04-28T20:37:09 < kakimir> what project you are talking about?
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2016-04-28T20:44:24 < Laurenceb_> oh
2016-04-28T20:44:28 < Laurenceb_> horse project
2016-04-28T20:45:02 < zyp> you're still horsing around?
2016-04-28T20:46:48 < ReadError> fuck horses
2016-04-28T20:46:56 < zyp> ew, no
2016-04-28T20:46:58 < Laurenceb_> no I'm not mr hands
2016-04-28T20:53:36 < qyx> meh, run out of pins on 64pin package
2016-04-28T20:54:04 < zyp> time for wlcsp90
2016-04-28T20:55:59 < kakimir> you intervane with horses Laurenceb_ ?
2016-04-28T20:57:25 < Laurenceb_> yes, I "interfere" with them
2016-04-28T20:57:47 < qyx> I can free 3 pins if I use jpa-'s analog button hack
2016-04-28T20:58:06 < kakimir> what you do to them horses?
2016-04-28T20:58:26 < zyp> qyx, sounds annoying
2016-04-28T20:58:40 < zyp> just grab a larger package
2016-04-28T20:58:46 < zyp> or did you already start routing?
2016-04-28T20:58:57 < qyx> 80% finished :S
2016-04-28T20:59:07 < qyx> there are like 5 pins missing
2016-04-28T20:59:12 < qyx> for things like charging status
2016-04-28T21:01:04 < qyx> oh, there is a gpio input on the battery gauge
2016-04-28T21:01:25 < qyx> I could hook it to the charging status output and read it over i2c
2016-04-28T21:02:40 < zyp> the good thing is that the qfp100 have the same order of pins as the qfp64, just with more pins in between
2016-04-28T21:02:56 < zyp> so if you have enough area, there's not a lot of rerouting required to swap
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2016-04-28T21:11:35 < kakimir> how are empty strings initialized so that null terminating codes do not trip to random nuls
2016-04-28T21:11:42 < kakimir> ?
2016-04-28T21:12:21 < kakimir> and because nul = 0 it's not bss either
2016-04-28T21:14:24 < kakimir> is there any automatic initialization anyways?
2016-04-28T21:14:31 < kakimir> with terminating
2016-04-28T21:17:05 < qyx> wat
2016-04-28T21:17:57 < kakimir> I don't even know
2016-04-28T21:20:32 < kakimir> better terminate that string when data to it is introduced and base that on size_t parameter
2016-04-28T21:21:35 < zyp> you don't make sense
2016-04-28T21:23:09 < zyp> char s[] = ""; equals char s[] = {0};
2016-04-28T21:24:24 < zyp> depending on storage, C variables may default to 0 or remain undefined
2016-04-28T21:24:27 < kakimir> okay
2016-04-28T21:24:32 < zyp> this also goes for strings
2016-04-28T21:24:58 < kakimir> char s[10]; is totally random most likely?
2016-04-28T21:25:08 < zyp> a default-initialized char array would have 0 in all elements, a undefined char array would have undefined values in all elements
2016-04-28T21:25:44 < zyp> kakimir, globally it would be put in .bss and thus be zero-initialized, on the stack it would be undefined
2016-04-28T21:26:01 < zyp> if you need to define it, just add = ""
2016-04-28T21:26:51 < kakimir> okay
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2016-04-28T21:49:47 < kakimir> does char s[] = ""; even allocate anything?
2016-04-28T21:50:00 < kakimir> because there is no size to it
2016-04-28T21:53:44 < ds2> yes there is
2016-04-28T21:53:47 < ds2> that implies a '\0'
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2016-04-28T22:19:50 < Laurenceb> I've had it with ads1298
2016-04-28T22:19:53 < Laurenceb> this shit sucks
2016-04-28T22:20:11 < Laurenceb> if I can't get it running by end of week I'm going with custom opamp system :-/
2016-04-28T22:21:32 < BrainDamage> stop horsing around
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2016-04-28T22:23:38 < upgrdman> is there a windows equiv for dd so i can image a disk with an unknown filesystem?
2016-04-28T22:24:53 < Thorn> acronis something
2016-04-28T22:27:25 < [7]> there's a dd for windows thing
2016-04-28T22:27:27 < [7]> there's rawritewin
2016-04-28T22:27:31 < [7]> there's winhex
2016-04-28T22:27:39 < [7]> hxd can also do disk imaging I think
2016-04-28T22:27:57 < Thorn> there is dd in msys
2016-04-28T22:31:26 < Thorn> not sure if it would actually work for raw disks
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2016-04-28T22:41:15 < qyx> http://i.imgur.com/BasGLnj.png
2016-04-28T22:41:20 < qyx> I jpa-'d that thing
2016-04-28T22:41:31 < qyx> nasty
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2016-04-28T22:47:15 < Thorn> msys tools expect paths like /c/Windows/shit. not sure if \ survives much less \\?\
2016-04-28T22:48:45 < Thorn> http://mingw.5.n7.nabble.com/msys-1-0-s-dd-exe-td30854.html
2016-04-28T22:49:17 < Thorn> apparently dd if=//./PhysicalDrive1 of=sdcard.img works
2016-04-28T22:50:17 < Thorn> I think there was some sysinternals tool
2016-04-28T22:52:57 < Thorn> china lcd backlight: voltage 4.6V, current 16.5mA. wh1602b datasheet: typ 4.2V, max 4.6V, typ 130mA(!)
2016-04-28T22:54:19 < qyx> are you going to do a street lighting with 130mA?
2016-04-28T22:55:08 < Thorn> I need to reconnect the winstar and measure the current
2016-04-28T22:56:39 < Thorn> 130mA is a lot of mA
2016-04-28T23:03:05 < Steffanx> upgrdman a real windows guy uses something with a gui: Macrium Reflect
2016-04-28T23:06:29 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxxPyaAT1k it been completed
2016-04-28T23:07:17 < Steffanx> i wonder how and when that guy will die
2016-04-28T23:07:31 < Thorn> faceplant into a propeller
2016-04-28T23:07:57 < Thorn> or his ass in the other one
2016-04-28T23:10:11 < Steffanx> also wonder how much plumber he still is and how much a youtuber.
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2016-04-28T23:53:40 < kakimir> propeller looks hungry
2016-04-28T23:53:48 < kakimir> more than in big rc planes
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2016-04-29T00:10:34 < kakimir> https://www.crowdsupply.com/ check this
2016-04-29T00:11:24 < kakimir> interesting unruined platform
2016-04-29T00:11:28 < kakimir> 2016
2016-04-29T00:15:27 < kakimir> interesting innovations
2016-04-29T00:15:30 < kakimir> https://www.crowdsupply.com/knivd/ello-2m
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2016-04-29T00:35:39 < Sync> dongs what can chinagurl do for stm32f303cbt, if it is popular over there at all
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2016-04-29T00:48:33 < kakimir> should I talk about inserting string or injecting string?
2016-04-29T00:48:54 < kakimir> like <havingstringplacedhere>
2016-04-29T00:49:04 < kakimir> just comment things
2016-04-29T00:51:15 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-29T00:55:13  * mitrax is watching deadpool
2016-04-29T00:55:22 < mitrax> is that shit really supposed to be funny?
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2016-04-29T00:59:15 < Laurenceb_>  "superhero" movies are cancer
2016-04-29T00:59:27 < Laurenceb_> apart from the second two batman films
2016-04-29T01:00:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats one reason they are fail
2016-04-29T01:00:46 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: confimed
2016-04-29T01:01:01 < Laurenceb_> the 90s batman films are more watchable than most of the recent superhero stuff
2016-04-29T01:01:08 < Laurenceb_> yeah only the Nolan films are good
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2016-04-29T01:05:08 < kakimir> nowdays superhero film are just turbocharged cgi mashing and disney storylines and limbing humour to them
2016-04-29T01:06:03 < kakimir> and series of them make even more ridiculous amount
2016-04-29T01:06:15 < kakimir> as they go cheap right at part 2
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2016-04-29T01:26:34 < kakimir> so {0} or {'\0'} writes the whole string into NUL?
2016-04-29T01:28:38 < kakimir> I want all elements of char array to be 0
2016-04-29T01:28:51 < kakimir> I can't understand the code in link
2016-04-29T01:30:58 < kakimir> char storage_string[KEBAB] = {'\0'}; should do at initialization
2016-04-29T01:31:59 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-29T01:32:11 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-29T01:32:12 < kakimir> but
2016-04-29T01:32:24 < kakimir> what {0} does after initialization?
2016-04-29T01:32:34 < kakimir> same thing or just first element?
2016-04-29T01:32:42 < Thorn> 0x0218A392CDABBD3FULL
2016-04-29T01:34:28 < kakimir> so my assumption of {X} initializin all elements to X is wrong?
2016-04-29T01:34:37 < kakimir> instead of just one
2016-04-29T01:34:53 < kakimir> no matter what point initialiation or afterwards
2016-04-29T01:36:28 < Thorn> https://godbolt.org/g/onjW1n
2016-04-29T01:37:09 < Thorn> I made it local so stack
2016-04-29T01:40:51 < Thorn> I can't read this assembly
2016-04-29T01:41:06 < Thorn> movl$0, %eax: take eax and move it into literal zero?
2016-04-29T01:41:08 < Thorn> lol
2016-04-29T01:45:08 < Thorn> clang calls memset
2016-04-29T01:45:40 < kakimir> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2589749/initialize-array-to-0-in-c
2016-04-29T01:46:01 < kakimir> why reading stackoverflow would be a sign of bad programmer?
2016-04-29T01:46:07 < kakimir> answers are good
2016-04-29T01:46:29 < kakimir> it's more likely sign of learning coder
2016-04-29T01:46:36 < Thorn> and puts ud2 at the end
2016-04-29T01:47:00 < Thorn> what is ud2? crash?
2016-04-29T01:47:20 < Thorn> >Generates an invalid opcode.
2016-04-29T01:47:47 < kakimir> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/c_standard_library/c_function_memset.htm
2016-04-29T01:50:20 < Thorn> I guess so, there is a warning (control reaches end of non-void function)
2016-04-29T01:50:22 < kakimir> so {0} is because by C99 it needs at least 1 initializer in there
2016-04-29T01:50:37 < kakimir> the rest just happen to be 0 to
2016-04-29T01:50:53 < kakimir> not that 0 inside curly braces had anythin to do with them
2016-04-29T01:50:54 < Thorn> adding a return removes the ub2
2016-04-29T01:52:17 < Laurenceb_> huh
2016-04-29T01:52:23 < Laurenceb_> doesnt {} work?
2016-04-29T01:53:36 < Laurenceb_> yeaH
2016-04-29T01:53:38 < upgrdman_> speaking of c, is there a clean way to say "increment this if it wont overflow" ? right now i do shit like: uint16_t foo = 0; ... if(foo < UINT16_MAX) foo++; ... but then if i change foo into a uint32_t i have to fix a bunch of shit.
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2016-04-29T01:53:48 < Laurenceb_> use ada?
2016-04-29T01:54:07 < zyp> upgrdman, you mean you want saturation?
2016-04-29T01:54:16 < upgrdman> sat == stop at max? ya
2016-04-29T01:55:13 < zyp> upgrdman, check the _Sat gcc type extension
2016-04-29T01:55:15 < upgrdman> ya im cool with that, but was hoping there was like a max_of(foo) type of function
2016-04-29T01:55:25 < upgrdman> kinda like the size_of() helper
2016-04-29T01:55:39 < Thorn> can you use std::numeric_limits<typeof foo>::max() in c++11?
2016-04-29T01:55:40 < upgrdman> zyp, k thanks
2016-04-29T01:56:09 < upgrdman> would prefer c, but c++ bits might be ok
2016-04-29T02:00:19 < Laurenceb_> https://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/04/28/1817243/bernie-sanders-second-life-headquarters-besieged-by-trump-supporting-swastikas
2016-04-29T02:00:33 < Laurenceb_> lulz, big lulz, epic epic epic lulz
2016-04-29T02:00:39 < Laurenceb_> its like 2006 all over again
2016-04-29T02:01:08 < Thorn> void foo() { char x[1000]; /* initialized with your password left there by an earlier call */ }
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2016-04-29T02:04:58 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-eI5oLlIeY about superhero movies
2016-04-29T02:09:57 < kakimir> 2016 is to watch dudes talk about movies as they watch them
2016-04-29T02:10:01 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97GfUqeYLiw
2016-04-29T02:10:11 < kakimir> and drink beer
2016-04-29T02:13:42 < Thorn> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth_new/ADSR001/ADSR001.html why are they using tl084 as a comparator (u5-c)
2016-04-29T02:15:34 < Thorn> also u5-d buffer is probably not required
2016-04-29T02:36:17 < Laurenceb_> http://mountainkingforge.com/
2016-04-29T02:36:25 < Laurenceb_> guess what this guys other job is
2016-04-29T02:38:50 < Laurenceb_> if you guessed 8chan /pol/ admin, you guessed correctly
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2016-04-29T02:46:18 < Laurenceb_> I prefer Laurenceb_ PhD
2016-04-29T02:47:30 < Laurenceb_> I was thinking of getting Chartered, but thats just overkill
2016-04-29T02:47:40 < Laurenceb_> I'm already overqualified lol
2016-04-29T02:48:01 < Laurenceb_> I collect qualifications as a sport
2016-04-29T02:50:19 < Laurenceb_> lul wtf is Mana
2016-04-29T02:50:41 < Laurenceb_> oh its a "martial art" he invented and you have to buy his kit to practice it..off his site
2016-04-29T02:50:49 < Laurenceb_> never saw that one coming
2016-04-29T02:51:05 < kakimir> mana - food of gods
2016-04-29T02:51:09 < Laurenceb_> thats zano/emdrive level scammery
2016-04-29T02:55:01 < kakimir> eat some shrooms and have think about it
2016-04-29T02:55:07 < Laurenceb_> I should invent my own martial art
2016-04-29T02:55:21 < Laurenceb_> yep, eat shrooms to come up with an idea
2016-04-29T02:57:23 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna
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2016-04-29T04:14:49 < dongs> indeed
2016-04-29T04:26:07 < Rob235> I concur
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2016-04-29T04:33:13 < upgrdman> shit. is the password is /etc/passwd hashed against the username? i just changed the username field in that file, and now i cant log in. lol
2016-04-29T04:33:24 < ReadError> nah its in shadow
2016-04-29T04:33:32 < ReadError> uhmm
2016-04-29T04:33:44 < ReadError> sometimes if you use a shitty text editor it will fuckup the line endings
2016-04-29T04:33:49 < upgrdman> nano
2016-04-29T04:33:49 < ReadError> and break stuff
2016-04-29T04:33:54 < dongs> ... nano lol
2016-04-29T04:33:54 < ReadError> ah yea that shouldnt
2016-04-29T04:33:56 < dongs> holy fuck
2016-04-29T04:33:58 < ReadError> but ya nano
2016-04-29T04:34:03 < ReadError> ;)
2016-04-29T04:34:15 < upgrdman> i know, vi or emacs... but fuck i want simple
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2016-04-29T04:36:31 < upgrdman> how can i edit a ext2/3 fs in windows
2016-04-29T04:36:35 < upgrdman> i need to unfuck this
2016-04-29T04:36:44 < dongs> .. what username did you change
2016-04-29T04:36:51 < dongs> and why teh fuck you cant login anyt other way
2016-04-29T04:37:02 < dongs> just boot with init=/bin/sh and fix it
2016-04-29T04:37:13 < upgrdman> headless
2016-04-29T04:37:17 < upgrdman> its a dingleberry pio
2016-04-29T04:37:19 < upgrdman> its a dingleberry pi
2016-04-29T04:37:25 < dongs> hdmi?????????????
2016-04-29T04:37:28 < ReadError> single it
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2016-04-29T04:42:41 < fenugrec> nano has been known to break line endings by default unless you change an option in your .rc or some nonsense like that. Stopped using it ever since
2016-04-29T04:43:11 < dongs> i mean nano is a shitty clone of pico
2016-04-29T04:44:46 < dongs> thats really all you need to know to never use it agfain
2016-04-29T04:45:04 < ReadError> do a 'cat -e /etc/passwd'
2016-04-29T04:45:09 < ReadError> it should show you the fucky characters
2016-04-29T04:45:25 < ReadError> ive seen people edit shit with wordpad
2016-04-29T04:45:30 < ReadError> what a fucking mess
2016-04-29T04:47:00 < upgrdman> lol
2016-04-29T04:47:07 < upgrdman> i think i know how i fucked it up
2016-04-29T04:47:40 < upgrdman> i did sudo nano /etc/passwd... then i tried to sudo nano /etc/shadow, etc. and of course the files disagree
2016-04-29T04:47:48 < upgrdman> i should have sudo bash then did them all at once
2016-04-29T04:48:16 < upgrdman> but FUCK... no way to edit boot options on the ras pi afaik. it boots before usb keyboard can stop anything
2016-04-29T04:48:42 < upgrdman> now i have to find a way to edit the filesystem in windows
2016-04-29T04:50:19 < upgrdman> username pi = gay
2016-04-29T04:52:14 < dongs> upgrdman: /boot is on fat32
2016-04-29T04:52:41 < dongs> on sd card.
2016-04-29T04:57:40 < upgrdman> dongs, what file do i edit in /boot, cmdline.txt?
2016-04-29T04:57:47 < upgrdman> and just replace the entire line?
2016-04-29T04:57:49 < dongs> yes
2016-04-29T04:57:51 < dongs> no
2016-04-29T04:57:58 < dongs> just add init=/bin/sh somewehre in it
2016-04-29T04:58:04 < dongs> then boot with hdmi/keyboard or wahtever
2016-04-29T04:58:18 < dongs> remount / rw, and edit your shit + put back cmdline + reboot.
2016-04-29T04:58:39 < upgrdman> how do i remount
2016-04-29T04:58:44 < upgrdman> i need your super lunix skillz
2016-04-29T04:58:54 < dongs> yopufucking faggot
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2016-04-29T04:59:06 < dongs> something mount / -o remount,rw or something
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2016-04-29T05:02:08 < dongs> bbl, enjoy LUNIX AIDS
2016-04-29T05:08:01 < upgrdman> dongs, fixed it, thanks bro
2016-04-29T05:09:58 < dongs> what was wrong?
2016-04-29T05:10:05 < dongs> nano pressed enter too many times?
2016-04-29T05:15:41 < upgrdman> dongs, no like i said above:
2016-04-29T05:15:47 < upgrdman> i did sudo nano /etc/passwd... then i tried to sudo nano /etc/shadow, etc. and of course the files disagree
2016-04-29T05:16:00 < upgrdman> i should have sudo bash then did them all at once
2016-04-29T05:16:11 < upgrdman> so i could no longer sudo
2016-04-29T05:18:35 < dongs> oh
2016-04-29T05:18:36 < dongs> lewl
2016-04-29T05:18:44 < dongs> also, protip of the week
2016-04-29T05:18:47 < dongs> its sudo -s
2016-04-29T05:18:54 < ReadError> sudo su -
2016-04-29T05:18:57 < dongs> no.
2016-04-29T05:19:09 < dongs> you fucking stoner.
2016-04-29T05:19:36 < ReadError> sudo'ing before every edit is a PITA, fucking sudo over and handle shit
2016-04-29T05:23:32 < ReadError> ohsix nah its just a PITA to remember to type it before each command
2016-04-29T05:23:52 < ReadError> I also do other odd shit tho too
2016-04-29T05:23:56 < ReadError> like
2016-04-29T05:24:02 < ReadError> cat file.txt|grep -i derp
2016-04-29T05:24:10 < ReadError> instead of grep -i derp file.txt
2016-04-29T05:24:26 < ReadError> because its easier to append new stuff instead of home then moving over and editing
2016-04-29T05:33:26 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/PCB-Design-MEMS-pico-projector/
2016-04-29T05:33:29 < dongs> RITOT spitted
2016-04-29T05:33:32 < dongs> spotted
2016-04-29T05:34:03 < dongs> > budget
2016-04-29T05:37:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/SODIM-connector-library-for-eagle-10356720/
2016-04-29T05:37:35 < dongs> lol
2016-04-29T05:37:39 < dongs> you know your software is shit
2016-04-29T05:37:45 < dongs> when you're willing to pay 250eur
2016-04-29T05:37:49 < dongs> for someone to draw a 200pin connector
2016-04-29T05:48:46 < upgrdman> port arthur shooting?
2016-04-29T05:48:50 < upgrdman> what did i miss when i was in cn
2016-04-29T05:49:43 < upgrdman> oh ok cool
2016-04-29T05:49:48 < upgrdman> well not, but you know
2016-04-29T05:51:32 < upgrdman> i know its common and accepted, but removing rights because a small minority abuse them is 100% bullshit
2016-04-29T05:52:22 < upgrdman> well fine, s/rights/privileges
2016-04-29T05:53:09 < ReadError> I have an encoder here
2016-04-29T05:53:17 < ReadError> and was wanting to use it as a HID device
2016-04-29T05:53:21 < ReadError> for like volume or w/e
2016-04-29T05:53:35 < ReadError> anyone done something like that? driver wise
2016-04-29T05:53:45 < upgrdman> i kinda want to do that too, with my 600pulse/rev encoder, but never tried
2016-04-29T05:53:47 < ReadError> or is there some standard for it
2016-04-29T05:53:57 < ReadError> yea upgrdman, got something similar
2016-04-29T05:54:09 < ReadError> yea but I mean the device type
2016-04-29T05:54:11 < ReadError> knob
2016-04-29T05:54:25 < upgrdman> maybe be a HID keyboard and simulate media key presses?
2016-04-29T05:54:33 < upgrdman> but then little control over amount per click
2016-04-29T05:54:47 < upgrdman> s/little/no
2016-04-29T05:55:14 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-PowerMate-Multi-Media-Bluetooth-Connectivity/dp/B00IRDRL4K
2016-04-29T05:55:18 < ReadError> like this
2016-04-29T05:55:41 < ReadError> ahh guess it does need drivers
2016-04-29T05:55:53 < ReadError> wont work on windows heh
2016-04-29T05:55:54 < dongs> ...
2016-04-29T05:56:02 < dongs> mac faggots will just spend $ on anything these days huh
2016-04-29T05:56:08 < dongs> lol @ $60 for a fucking knob
2016-04-29T05:56:26 < upgrdman> but but brushed aluminum!!1!1!!11
2016-04-29T05:56:30 < dongs> ReadError: any opinion on that 3d space mouse thingy that works wiht altidong
2016-04-29T05:56:41 < dongs> 3dconnexion or hwatever
2016-04-29T05:56:48 < ReadError> dongs not used it w/ altium, its okay for solidworks
2016-04-29T05:56:50 < dongs> altidong pal showed me the stuff and it looked kinda neat but duno how useful
2016-04-29T05:56:57 < ReadError> but i dont see how useful it would be in altium
2016-04-29T05:57:12 < dongs> yeah all he did was dick aroudn with 3d view
2016-04-29T05:57:41 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-SpacePilot-Pro-Mouse-3DX-700036/dp/B00283VWK4/
2016-04-29T05:57:45 < ReadError> that could be kinda cool
2016-04-29T05:57:56 < ReadError> assign the buttons to change layers etc
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2016-04-29T05:58:08 < ReadError> then no need to remove mousehand
2016-04-29T05:58:09 < dongs> yea but...
2016-04-29T05:58:15 < dongs> er?
2016-04-29T05:58:15 < upgrdman> looks cool but uncumfortable for long term use
2016-04-29T05:58:21 < dongs> but you cant use it as a real mouse rtight?
2016-04-29T05:58:28 < ReadError> it does move like a mouse  yea
2016-04-29T05:58:34 < ReadError> or can
2016-04-29T05:58:34 < dongs> sounds kinda annoying
2016-04-29T05:58:43 < ReadError> i use a wireless numpad
2016-04-29T05:58:45 < dongs> i like my mouse to a cutally move while mousing
2016-04-29T05:58:49 < ReadError> keep that to the left of my keyboard
2016-04-29T05:58:57 < ReadError> makes it much easier
2016-04-29T06:00:22 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Orbweaver-Chroma-Mechanical-Adjustable/dp/B013P0HW7K/
2016-04-29T06:00:23 < ReadError> haha
2016-04-29T06:00:28 < ReadError> this would be for the true pro
2016-04-29T06:01:08 < dongs> true bro
2016-04-29T06:01:18 < dongs> what the fuck is that even
2016-04-29T06:01:21 < dongs> a mouse?
2016-04-29T06:01:25 < dongs> or just a 16 keypad
2016-04-29T06:01:25 < ReadError> no its for gamers
2016-04-29T06:01:31 < ReadError> so you dont use a keyboard
2016-04-29T06:01:34 < ReadError> just mouse and that
2016-04-29T06:01:49 < upgrdman> r2com might want that lol
2016-04-29T06:02:08 < dongs> wat do you do like assign WoW magic spells slots to the buttons and shit?
2016-04-29T06:02:39 < dongs> that looks way to fucking heavy for a mouse tho
2016-04-29T06:02:44 < dongs> you'd be dragging like 1kg of shit
2016-04-29T06:02:44 < ReadError> it doesnt move
2016-04-29T06:02:46 < dongs> on your desk
2016-04-29T06:02:57 < ReadError> its for the left hand
2016-04-29T06:03:08 < ReadError> you still keep a mouse in your right
2016-04-29T06:03:25 < dongs> then I guess I dont game enough
2016-04-29T06:03:27 < dongs> to give a shit
2016-04-29T06:10:09 < ReadError> ohsix https://youtu.be/5x3vuslV2ZU?t=344
2016-04-29T06:10:17 < ReadError> thought ole dude was about to get murdered
2016-04-29T06:12:24 < ReadError> the drone camera work is pretty decent
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2016-04-29T06:32:54 < PeterM> pisssin down rain here
2016-04-29T06:37:42 < PeterM> ReadError, ni got one of these http://assets.razerzone.com/eeimages/products/59/razer-nostromo-gallery-2.png cheap ages ago to give it a go
2016-04-29T06:37:50 < PeterM> for layout
2016-04-29T06:37:59 < PeterM> its prety uncomfortable
2016-04-29T07:01:27 < dongs> yeah it sounds like it would be
2016-04-29T07:02:46 < PeterM> these days its KBMOD
2016-04-29T07:03:17 < PeterM> keyboard+mouse or die
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2016-04-29T07:04:23 < PeterM> hellow crt
2016-04-29T07:05:30 < PeterM> heavy or nah
2016-04-29T07:05:51 < PeterM> its pretty medium here btu very consistent
2016-04-29T07:07:39 < PeterM> yer, get yourself some good IEMs
2016-04-29T07:08:20 < PeterM> in ear monitors
2016-04-29T07:08:29 < PeterM> the buttplugs for your ears
2016-04-29T07:08:39 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-29T07:08:39 < Chris_M> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vKCLdLWi558/maxresdefault.jpg
2016-04-29T07:09:03 < PeterM> i've actually had that process done
2016-04-29T07:09:36 < PeterM> opertaing heavy machinery leads to industrial deafness very quickly without good ear protection
2016-04-29T07:10:42 < PeterM> yeah, still nice to drop ambient noise by 30-40db though
2016-04-29T07:13:48 < ReadError> I would buy a vive
2016-04-29T07:14:00 < ReadError> but im not going to pay some fuckboy ebay price or wait months
2016-04-29T07:14:10 < PeterM> ReadError, craigslist
2016-04-29T07:14:10 < ReadError> dont care that much
2016-04-29T07:14:27 < ReadError> PeterM nahhh its not that important to me
2016-04-29T07:14:47 < ReadError> if I could 1 click buy them on amazon I would
2016-04-29T07:14:52 < ReadError> but past that meh
2016-04-29T07:15:33 < PeterM> a friend picked up a vive the other day for $700 - somoene clearly had buyers remorse
2016-04-29T07:15:40 < dongs> lols
2016-04-29T07:15:50 < ReadError> DK2 sucked
2016-04-29T07:15:57 < ReadError> was useless, sold that shit ASAP
2016-04-29T07:16:23 < PeterM> cv1 is pretty decent
2016-04-29T07:16:32 < PeterM> althoguh
2016-04-29T07:17:23 < PeterM> i have to say, using stereoscopic 3d footage/programs makes a big difference
2016-04-29T07:18:09 < PeterM> unfortunately, there isn't much out there aside from porn that does that
2016-04-29T07:18:11 < ReadError> PeterM you used both the vive and cv1?
2016-04-29T07:18:22 < PeterM> ive not used  the vive, but the cv1, yes
2016-04-29T07:18:40 < PeterM> next weekend im driving ot makes place to give the vive a go
2016-04-29T07:18:45 < ReadError> what panels are they using in the cv1
2016-04-29T07:18:50 < ReadError> off the shelf or custom ?
2016-04-29T07:19:00 < ReadError> seemed like the dimensions were too odd to be in something else
2016-04-29T07:19:08 < PeterM> dunno, its impolite top pull otherpeoples stuff apart
2016-04-29T07:19:17 < PeterM> but yes, looks custom size
2016-04-29T07:19:34 < ReadError> that was previous ones though
2016-04-29T07:22:18 < dongs> as far as altidong mouse goes
2016-04-29T07:22:27 < dongs> the only thing I did was assign +/- to the side keys
2016-04-29T07:22:31 < dongs> for layer change
2016-04-29T07:22:36 < dongs> all otehr shit might as well do on keyboard anyway
2016-04-29T07:23:23 < dongs> maybe Q on a button but even then
2016-04-29T07:23:49 < dongs> most single-key stuff will need keyboard soon after clicking so doesnt matter
2016-04-29T07:25:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-with-rows-ZXLD/ easy copypaste project but too lazy
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2016-04-29T07:37:31 < dongs> even quieter here with ohsix gone
2016-04-29T07:41:11 < PeterM> whats an ohsix?
2016-04-29T07:41:17 < PeterM> actually, maybe better i dont ask
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2016-04-29T09:04:20 < emeb_mac> damned furriners - why can't they talk good english like us 'muricans?
2016-04-29T09:04:50 < emeb_mac> :)
2016-04-29T09:05:35 < emeb_mac> he seemed very... energetic
2016-04-29T09:07:35 < emeb_mac> yep - got one of those.
2016-04-29T09:07:45 < ReadError> oh wow
2016-04-29T09:07:51 < emeb_mac> baby's first jtag
2016-04-29T09:07:52 < ReadError> ya figured it was more than 1 guy
2016-04-29T09:13:05 < ReadError> i like that mi pad 2
2016-04-29T09:13:11 < ReadError> with the winders 10 option
2016-04-29T09:13:17 < ReadError> too bad i dont have any need for one
2016-04-29T09:15:57 < ReadError> think so
2016-04-29T09:16:00 < ReadError> has the atom
2016-04-29T09:16:13 < ReadError> and an ipad screen
2016-04-29T09:16:16 < ReadError> so pretty legit
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2016-04-29T09:34:38 < upgrdman> wtf
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2016-04-29T09:34:54 < upgrdman> the little iphone4's look too small to type on
2016-04-29T09:34:58 < upgrdman> let alone that 2.4" trash
2016-04-29T09:35:31 < upgrdman> maybe if you have little asian hands
2016-04-29T09:35:40 < ReadError> trumphands
2016-04-29T09:36:54 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Factory-Q88pro-A23-Dual-core-tablet-pc-android-4-2-512MB-4GB-dual-Camera-6-COLORS/611183637.html
2016-04-29T09:37:04 < ReadError> shits crazy cheap
2016-04-29T09:37:13 < ReadError> probably worthless
2016-04-29T09:38:32 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-85-inch-IPS-Tablet-Quad-Core-4-2-AllWinner-A31S-1GB-RAM-16GB-ROM-Capacitive/32332719422.html
2016-04-29T09:38:37 < ReadError> lol
2016-04-29T09:38:44 < ReadError> it says atom clover trail
2016-04-29T09:39:18 < upgrdman> speaking of cheap tablets... the powerful cortex a processors for phones and tables and sbc's... are cheap. why is the f4 so expensive? is it just the nice perips + public docs?
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2016-04-29T09:41:12 < upgrdman> sure but like why dont people use those phone chips in place of F4's etc
2016-04-29T09:41:18 < upgrdman> if theyre so much cheaper
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2016-04-29T09:42:26 < jpa-> could also have something to do with the combination of flash, sram and fast logic on same chip
2016-04-29T09:43:06 < upgrdman> cortex a shits dont have onboard sram?
2016-04-29T09:43:56 < upgrdman> k
2016-04-29T09:44:23 < jpa-> dunno how much cache the cheap ones have
2016-04-29T09:44:31 < upgrdman> ya
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2016-04-29T09:46:07 < jpa-> i think flash might be the hard part.. GD32 has flash on separate chip and chose to add more ram instead
2016-04-29T09:46:11 < dongs> upgrdman: wat
2016-04-29T09:46:17 < dongs> F4 isnt expensive
2016-04-29T09:46:26 < dongs> also Ax stuff is cheap because volume + chinese trash + no docs
2016-04-29T09:46:29 < upgrdman> well theyre like $8 for the nicer ones
2016-04-29T09:46:42 < upgrdman> in volume
2016-04-29T09:46:50 < jpa-> allwinner A33 does seem to have almost 1MB total of cache
2016-04-29T09:47:02 < jpa-> being $4 in big volumes
2016-04-29T09:52:14 < qyx> much balls, hard to solder
2016-04-29T09:52:55 < dongs> i got some 1mm ball pitch stuff the other day
2016-04-29T09:52:57 < dongs> pcie switch
2016-04-29T09:53:03 < dongs> should be pretty ez to route
2016-04-29T09:53:41 < upgrdman> 1mm would probably be doable on 2L
2016-04-29T09:53:50 < dongs> it is, its mostly gnd too
2016-04-29T09:54:04 < dongs> like only outer 2 rows have stuff in it
2016-04-29T09:54:10 < upgrdman> nice
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2016-04-29T09:55:25 < dongs> but yeah uh
2016-04-29T09:55:29 < dongs> Allwiner stuff is like...
2016-04-29T09:55:34 < dongs> they give you some orcad shit you copypaste it
2016-04-29T09:55:37 < dongs> for main+ddr
2016-04-29T09:55:45 < dongs> but lowlevel docs suck so bad
2016-04-29T09:55:49 < dongs> you can only run lunix on it
2016-04-29T09:55:51 < dongs> which is filthy
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2016-04-29T09:59:44 < dongs> https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/725576475177553921
2016-04-29T10:02:31 < dongs> https://github.com/gdbinit/mach_race RIP osx
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2016-04-29T10:10:55 < ReadError> ehhh shit that requires you to have local access is kinda useless
2016-04-29T10:11:07 < ReadError> if you had that you could just single the box
2016-04-29T10:11:10 < ReadError> so meh
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2016-04-29T10:18:59 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1403065126/trinus-the-affordable-all-metal-3d-printer
2016-04-29T10:19:03 < dongs> lol
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2016-04-29T10:27:37 < dongs> https://vimeo.com/163622787 holy shit that looks totally like a man
2016-04-29T10:28:27 < PeterM> i was like what he talkin aboh my god
2016-04-29T10:28:46 < dongs> lolz
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2016-04-29T11:08:12 < ReadError>  ?
2016-04-29T11:12:48 < dongs> fucckcking alticocks
2016-04-29T11:12:56 < dongs> so i make a qfn footprint with shaped pads
2016-04-29T11:13:01 < dongs> to try and be hipster
2016-04-29T11:13:07 < dongs> so they're a bit tapered in teh corners
2016-04-29T11:13:28 < dongs> to do that of course I use region + drop a small pad there to get it to show up as a pad
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2016-04-29T11:13:53 < dongs> if you do that and don't connect that shit to a net tho, it makes a fucking invisible drc violation of short circuit
2016-04-29T11:14:07 < dongs> because it thinks both region+pad of "nonet" are shorted
2016-04-29T11:15:11 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/EHh9U9A.png
2016-04-29T11:15:13 < dongs> this one is good tho
2016-04-29T11:15:45 < dongs> gave up trying to figure it out, and repasted entier board into a new .pcbdoc
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2016-04-29T11:23:21 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/iK6vMWS.png altidumb.png
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2016-04-29T11:35:02 < dongs> ROUTING CONNECTIONS FOR CUSTOM PADS
2016-04-29T11:35:03 < dongs> Since Altium Designer is able to detect and resolve routing connections to any copper object, there are no specific limitations on how you route to a custom pad.
2016-04-29T11:35:06 < dongs> right, no
2016-04-29T11:36:09 < ReadError> need to figure out how to do those sub schematics
2016-04-29T11:36:33 < ReadError> like if you have parts frequently used jam them all into that
2016-04-29T11:36:38 < ReadError> usb serial etc
2016-04-29T11:39:54 < dongs> it doesnt work
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2016-04-29T11:51:39 < PeterM> dongs, that ground pour under the chip isnt connected to the other ground pour?
2016-04-29T11:52:15 < dongs> it is
2016-04-29T11:52:18 < dongs> that isnt the problme
2016-04-29T11:52:22 < dongs> < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/EHh9U9A.png
2016-04-29T11:52:25 < dongs> this is teh actual violation
2016-04-29T11:52:56 < PeterM> eyah?
2016-04-29T11:53:09 < ReadError> says unrouted net not short circuit tho
2016-04-29T11:53:28 < dongs> ReadError: shortcircuit i fixed already
2016-04-29T11:53:29 < dongs> that was pin 20
2016-04-29T11:53:34 < dongs> i *knew* how to fix it.
2016-04-29T11:53:48 < dongs> these objects arent even lvisible
2016-04-29T11:58:18 < ReadError> oh wow these china cacks finally mailed my batts
2016-04-29T11:58:22 < ReadError> only took them 3 weeks
2016-04-29T11:58:53 < dongs> ReadError: im buying 100 8000mAh 1S cells
2016-04-29T11:58:55 < dongs> 4.5/ea
2016-04-29T11:59:01 < dongs> gonna make some packz
2016-04-29T11:59:08 < ReadError> damn
2016-04-29T11:59:36 < ReadError> guess 4.50 aint too bad
2016-04-29T12:05:12 < qyx> wat, expecting fireworks
2016-04-29T12:05:50 < qyx> 3kWh for $450
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2016-04-29T12:16:00 < PeterM> dongs, link cells, or fron chinagirl
2016-04-29T12:16:17 < PeterM> also, whtas the shipping on that? $150
2016-04-29T12:16:37 < dongs> chinagirl
2016-04-29T12:16:41 < dongs> shippinug will know next week
2016-04-29T12:16:44 < dongs> got pics, sec
2016-04-29T12:18:03 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Xxy58TR.png
2016-04-29T12:18:21 < dongs> 7566123 is part# i  think i dunno
2016-04-29T12:18:46 < dongs> or not
2016-04-29T12:18:55 < PeterM> you got a datasheet?
2016-04-29T12:19:38 < PeterM> dertainly not high c packs with tabs that small
2016-04-29T12:19:42 < PeterM> certainly*
2016-04-29T12:19:47 < dongs> yes, not high C
2016-04-29T12:19:48 < PeterM> also, no protection
2016-04-29T12:19:55 < dongs> err, why would single cell have protection
2016-04-29T12:20:02 < dongs> isnt that something you add after you make a pack
2016-04-29T12:20:34 < PeterM> single cell protection is pretty common on low c cells
2016-04-29T12:20:43 < PeterM> because the protection components are so cheap
2016-04-29T12:20:47 < PeterM> because low current
2016-04-29T12:22:19 < dongs> pfft
2016-04-29T12:22:29 < PeterM> not even joking.
2016-04-29T12:22:38 < dongs> and yea no ds, i'll ask later tho, for myt application i certainly d not care
2016-04-29T12:23:38 < PeterM> its like $0.05 worth of parts in protection
2016-04-29T12:23:49 < PeterM> the cost of assy is probably more
2016-04-29T12:23:54 < PeterM> although... being china...
2016-04-29T12:23:59 < dongs> haha
2016-04-29T12:24:11 < dongs> yeah i've seen some things that have liek 6 pin msop-like thing
2016-04-29T12:24:13 < dongs> as the only part
2016-04-29T12:24:23 < dongs> er 5 pin
2016-04-29T12:24:26 < PeterM> yer
2016-04-29T12:25:26 < PeterM> whatcha gonna do with the cells?
2016-04-29T12:25:30 < PeterM> mad hueg UPS?
2016-04-29T12:27:52 < dongs> no datasheet exists
2016-04-29T12:27:53 < dongs> nice
2016-04-29T12:28:48 < Laurenceb> another day another fight with the aids1298
2016-04-29T12:28:51 < Laurenceb> funtimes
2016-04-29T12:28:57 < dongs> today is some jappu holiday
2016-04-29T12:29:29 < Laurenceb> Pearl Harbour celibration day?
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2016-04-29T12:30:57 < dongs> yes
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2016-04-29T12:37:52 < Laurenceb> http://8ch.net/n/res/381264.html
2016-04-29T12:42:29 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/eqNYHZ3.png
2016-04-29T12:42:35 < PeterM> http://pastebin.com/seybGFkg
2016-04-29T12:42:41 < Laurenceb> i wonder...
2016-04-29T12:42:41 < PeterM> http://bit.ly/1VEeDI5
2016-04-29T12:43:03 < Laurenceb> what that could be
2016-04-29T12:43:11 < PeterM>  _   _       _      __                           _                                          ______
2016-04-29T12:43:11 < PeterM> | \ | |     | |    / _|                         | |                                         | ___ \
2016-04-29T12:43:11 < PeterM> |  \| | ___ | |_  | |_ _   _ _ __  _ __  _   _  | |     __ _ _   _ _ __ ___ _ __   ___ ___  | |_/ /
2016-04-29T12:43:11 < PeterM> | . ` |/ _ \| __| |  _| | | | '_ \| '_ \| | | | | |    / _` | | | | '__/ _ \ '_ \ / __/ _ \ | ___ \
2016-04-29T12:43:11 < PeterM> | |\  | (_) | |_  | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_| | | |___| (_| | |_| | | |  __/ | | | (_|  __/ | |_/ /
2016-04-29T12:43:12 < PeterM> \_| \_/\___/ \__| |_|  \__,_|_| |_|_| |_|\__, | \_____/\__,_|\__,_|_|  \___|_| |_|\___\___| \____/
2016-04-29T12:43:12 < PeterM>                                           __/ |
2016-04-29T12:43:12 < PeterM>                                          |___/
2016-04-29T12:43:17 < Laurenceb> fail
2016-04-29T12:43:22 < PeterM> ya
2016-04-29T12:43:25 < Laurenceb> u gut trolld
2016-04-29T12:43:32 < PeterM> damn irc
2016-04-29T12:43:37 < Laurenceb>  *triggered*
2016-04-29T12:44:57 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/ILb2Uiq << from RM0090 is that statement true, that only 7 pins? as I see it, it's 9 pins...?
2016-04-29T12:45:02 < dongs> +---------------------+
2016-04-29T12:45:05 < dongs> | Not funny LaurenceB |
2016-04-29T12:45:09 < dongs> +---------------------+
2016-04-29T12:45:21 < Fleck> According to the IEEE 802.3u standard, an MII contains 16 pins for data and control. The RMII specification is dedicated to reduce the pin count to 7 pins (a 62.5% decrease in pin count).
2016-04-29T12:45:41 < Laurenceb> i think i triggered the whole channel
2016-04-29T12:46:49 < qyx> dongs: very similar http://www.ebay.com/itm//111706419673
2016-04-29T12:47:26 < PeterM> would you look at that, protection pcb
2016-04-29T12:48:14 < qyx> yep
2016-04-29T12:48:19 < dongs> qyx, yes
2016-04-29T12:48:20 < dongs> same #
2016-04-29T12:48:27 < dongs> orr, similar
2016-04-29T12:48:30 < qyx> except the protection is added
2016-04-29T12:48:34 < dongs> ya
2016-04-29T12:49:22 < qyx> I wonder if they are shipping lipo cells again from china
2016-04-29T12:50:11 < PeterM> they stopped?
2016-04-29T12:50:45 < dongs> those new rule shits
2016-04-29T12:50:51 < dongs> the stuff I ordered will be like individually wrapped or someshti
2016-04-29T12:50:59 < karlp> merggggged: https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/commit/d1a384528417b353a21d102a6ecb4fb219ce2606
2016-04-29T12:50:59 < PeterM> psssh
2016-04-29T12:51:29 < Laurenceb> triggering intensifies
2016-04-29T12:51:30 < qyx> yep, they stopped, then they started to wrap the cells in alu foil
2016-04-29T12:51:31 < PeterM> 10/10 ign, would rate again
2016-04-29T12:51:37 < Laurenceb> this is brilliant
2016-04-29T12:51:45 < qyx> then stopped again
2016-04-29T12:52:29 < PeterM> qyx i dotn think china would ever actually stop shippng lipos, even if they werent allowed to
2016-04-29T12:52:50 < dongs> http://www.hembrow.eu/personal/103_4712.JPG err did china actually do that? nice
2016-04-29T12:53:24 < PeterM> probably jappu design
2016-04-29T12:53:45 < dongs> those are probly LCD screen driver shits
2016-04-29T12:54:31 < PeterM> they are indeed
2016-04-29T12:55:24 < PeterM> but i still think that design is too creative to come from cn, and the routing looks oldschool, ie before chinas time hence why i think its jappu
2016-04-29T12:56:12 < dongs> ya possibly
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2016-04-29T12:59:05 < Laurenceb> whats so bad with curved routing anyway?
2016-04-29T12:59:09 < dongs> nothing
2016-04-29T12:59:18 < Laurenceb> heh
2016-04-29T13:03:15 < karlp> qyx: that "warning" against the cp210x I only added because I saw felipe talking about in passing, and felipe/carebear are both "serious" usb people, so I wanted to keep it, but yeah, I should explicitly list the channels preferences there... (so I've added it)
2016-04-29T13:10:22 < ReadError> curved routing is a huge PITA to edit
2016-04-29T13:14:42 < zyp> just redraw it?
2016-04-29T13:15:14 < zyp> altium's loop removal makes it faster to redraw a bunch of stuff than moving it
2016-04-29T13:15:44 < ReadError> yea bout the only option you have
2016-04-29T13:17:25 < dongs> karlp: wat usb warning
2016-04-29T13:17:44 < ReadError> zypsnips ?
2016-04-29T13:18:27 < ReadError> hahah that Laurenceb one
2016-04-29T13:18:49 < Laurenceb> PeterM got triggered
2016-04-29T13:25:31 < dongs> karlp: that accusation needs actual proof
2016-04-29T13:28:58 < PeterM> Laurenceb not even
2016-04-29T13:32:47 < dongs> karlp:
2016-04-29T13:32:49 < dongs> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/desks.links
2016-04-29T13:32:55 < dongs> failure, you trashed zyp's desk url
2016-04-29T13:33:16 < dongs> oh it was never there
2016-04-29T13:35:42 < karlp> ReadError: local user-root escalation is still part of a chain, still "bad"
2016-04-29T13:36:04 < ReadError> well im not saying its good
2016-04-29T13:36:19 < ReadError> im just saying if someone has local access to a keyboard you are basically fucked already
2016-04-29T13:37:01 < PeterM> nah
2016-04-29T13:39:58 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/cpiDLLz.jpg
2016-04-29T13:41:24 < karlp> is that yours?
2016-04-29T13:41:28 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-29T13:41:41 < dongs> who else would have dickbutt on the monitor
2016-04-29T13:41:42 < karlp> hrm, I had a zyp desk, lost it, my bad. bad paste
2016-04-29T13:42:54 < Laurenceb> lul the monitor
2016-04-29T13:47:42 < dongs> Laurenceb: you mean the not funny part?
2016-04-29T13:48:36 < Laurenceb> uhuh
2016-04-29T13:48:42 < qyx> hm, whats EMW3165
2016-04-29T13:48:49 < qyx> some stm32f411 with broadcom wifi
2016-04-29T13:49:02 < dongs> qyx, sounds like wiced stuff with F2->F4
2016-04-29T13:49:16 < dongs> yes
2016-04-29T13:49:18 < dongs> thats what it is
2016-04-29T13:49:25 < dongs> its that xpicowifi/zanjo thing
2016-04-29T13:49:38 < dongs> The main difference between EMW3162 and EMW3165 are:
2016-04-29T13:49:38 < dongs> （1）EMW3162 built-in frequency up to 120MHz Cortex-M3 microcontroller STM32F205RG, 1M byte of Flash, 128k bytes of SRAM and extensive peripheral functions with the MxchipWnet embedded Wi-Fi firmware.
2016-04-29T13:49:39 < qyx> aha
2016-04-29T13:49:48 < dongs> F205 was original broadscum reference
2016-04-29T13:50:16 < qyx> that broadcom wifi over sdio
2016-04-29T13:50:21 < dongs> yes
2016-04-29T13:50:23 < qyx> do we know anything about it?
2016-04-29T13:50:43 < dongs> zano used it and claimed they were going topush 12mbit/sec mjpeg over it
2016-04-29T13:50:56 < dongs> or was it 25
2016-04-29T13:51:06 < dongs> crt: haha
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2016-04-29T13:51:43 < dongs> wats being tested?
2016-04-29T13:51:46 < dongs> suckiness?
2016-04-29T13:53:37 < dongs> mkay
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2016-04-29T13:59:55 < ReadError> i got those speakers
2016-04-29T14:00:10 < ReadError> they were cheap
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2016-04-29T14:04:09 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/UuiFlZo.gifv
2016-04-29T14:05:14 < dongs> haha
2016-04-29T14:05:20 < dongs> A+ vapism
2016-04-29T14:05:58 < ReadError> is your thing done?
2016-04-29T14:06:52 < dongs> no it got bumped off innovation queue by some higher priority shit
2016-04-29T14:06:56 < dongs> its still on it
2016-04-29T14:07:03 < dongs> which speakers? cr4s?
2016-04-29T14:07:20 < Laurenceb> holy shit her clothes
2016-04-29T14:07:23 < dongs> or is ohsix chatting
2016-04-29T14:07:23 < Laurenceb> what a scank
2016-04-29T14:07:57 < dongs> -!- WHOIS This command could not be completed because it has been used recently, and is rate-limited.
2016-04-29T14:08:01 < dongs> da fuq
2016-04-29T14:08:20 < kakimir> subohmin
2016-04-29T14:09:33 < ReadError> dongs yes
2016-04-29T14:09:43 < PeterM> lol at baby stroller/pram/walker/whateverthing in background
2016-04-29T14:12:40 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-RJGgG2K/0/XL/CA_04291607113013-XL.jpg
2016-04-29T14:12:45 < ReadError> its like the perfect fit
2016-04-29T14:14:16 < dongs> is that your future subohming vapebox
2016-04-29T14:14:27 < dongs> put that shit in series
2016-04-29T14:14:30 < dongs> and short it into the coil
2016-04-29T14:14:31 < Laurenceb> heh
2016-04-29T14:15:02 < ReadError> nah, going to run them @ 12s
2016-04-29T14:15:20 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-XNSzDvQ/0/X3/CA_04261615373269-X3.jpg
2016-04-29T14:15:21 < ReadError> for that
2016-04-29T14:15:30 < dongs> o right
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2016-04-29T14:21:00 < Laurenceb> its for powering this http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=33f_1461512931
2016-04-29T14:21:37 < dongs> completely useless without an actual demonstration
2016-04-29T14:26:39 < Laurenceb> found crt http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Roger-the-kangaroo4-550x733.jpg
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2016-04-29T14:58:16 < upgrdman> nice setup  http://i.imgur.com/7gnZmyA.jpg
2016-04-29T14:59:27 < PeterM> more processing power there than kakimirs computer
2016-04-29T15:02:01 < Laurenceb> can printf not funny to all at once
2016-04-29T15:06:31 < Getty> got the first chinese production prototype in hand
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2016-04-29T15:06:37 < Getty> and of course denies to be programmed
2016-04-29T15:07:30 < Getty> design is actually great
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2016-04-29T15:07:43 < Getty> awkward color (orangish) but the casing is great
2016-04-29T15:08:18 < upgrdman> proto of what
2016-04-29T15:08:57 < Getty> LED control
2016-04-29T15:09:56 < Getty> http://www.ledaquaristik.de/SunRiser-8-Tagessimulation-und-Lichtsteuerung that thing and that thing http://www.ledaquaristik.de/epages/64355316.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64355316/Products/154
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2016-04-29T15:11:59 < Getty> oh yeah and the other one also no reaction at all
2016-04-29T15:12:14 < Getty> avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
2016-04-29T15:12:48 < Getty> oh yeah... that was my fault LOL ;) cable disconnected on the other side
2016-04-29T15:12:56 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/oi2KPV.jpg
2016-04-29T15:13:04 < Getty> well well... with cable connected the same error 8-)
2016-04-29T15:13:28 < Getty> ahhhhhh
2016-04-29T15:13:29 < Getty> better
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2016-04-29T15:15:13 < PeterM> why is there a bellhousing and part of a transmission in a restroom?
2016-04-29T15:15:36 < Laurenceb> tranny in a restroom
2016-04-29T15:16:33 < PeterM> looks like a pretty tiny transmission, maybe its a fucked tranny
2016-04-29T15:16:42 < Laurenceb> no homo
2016-04-29T15:17:14 < Getty> "we didnt replaced the core parts, we just replaced transistors and other small parts"
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2016-04-29T15:17:27 < Getty> well well..... a changed display is not a transistor
2016-04-29T15:18:07 < Getty> they changed the display
2016-04-29T15:18:32 < Getty> but i already requested documentation for the display, if its just some bytes i have to change, meh
2016-04-29T15:18:50 < Getty> at least i can program that other thing
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2016-04-29T15:24:12 < Getty> i dont anyway the distributor does ;)
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2016-04-29T16:04:23 < Laurenceb> I'm here
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2016-04-29T16:12:15 < Getty> hahahaha my dad ranting about chinese production..... i should have made a youtube
2016-04-29T16:12:59 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHGyUoQIDpM
2016-04-29T16:28:49 < Laurenceb> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x33lnhu
2016-04-29T16:29:13 < ReadError> jezuz fuk
2016-04-29T16:29:30 < ReadError> you think after 15 years of dev
2016-04-29T16:29:34 < ReadError> gerbv would support undo
2016-04-29T16:30:39 < PeterM> nah man
2016-04-29T16:30:49 < Laurenceb> gerbv isnt an editor
2016-04-29T16:31:08 < ReadError> ehhh it works for the quick&nasty
2016-04-29T16:32:00 < Lux> why do you even want to edit gerber files ?
2016-04-29T16:32:26 < ReadError> stencil
2016-04-29T16:32:35 < Lux> that's just like trying to edit a pdf
2016-04-29T16:33:01 < ReadError> should re-panel in altium to do it right tho
2016-04-29T16:35:05 < ReadError> but yea, top soldermask has some pads i dont want paste on so this is the easiest way to change that
2016-04-29T16:35:40 < ReadError> but cant change aperture size so not the proper way anyways
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2016-04-29T16:54:25 < karlp> you were probably looking for gerbe, not gerbv....
2016-04-29T17:00:14 < lorenzo> no
2016-04-29T17:00:44 < lorenzo> pump's broken, water everywhere
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2016-04-29T17:52:14 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NXP-Freescale/CRTOUCHB10VFM/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuqBwn8WqcFUnwNvSzGz5s5dmWGZQui5zk%3d
2016-04-29T17:52:24 < ReadError> it was only 2.15
2016-04-29T17:55:54 < PeterM> wow, cheap
2016-04-29T17:56:07 < karlp> what's the part itself cost?
2016-04-29T17:56:29 < PeterM> pcb alone is probably $2.15
2016-04-29T17:56:53 < karlp> no imean, the ic they're promoting...
2016-04-29T17:57:24 < ReadError> i think its the devboard
2016-04-29T17:57:41 < ReadError> i figured for 2.15 ill take the gamble
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2016-04-29T18:00:13 < karlp> chip itself is 2.15 at digikey? http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/integrated-circuits-ics/data-acquisition-touch-screen-controllers/2557134?k=crtouch
2016-04-29T18:03:26 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291629076713?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
2016-04-29T18:03:33 < ReadError> gamble #2 of the day
2016-04-29T18:04:33 < BrainDamage> daily bullshit link http://hackaday.com/2016/04/28/the-makerbot-obituary/
2016-04-29T18:33:00 < Laurenceb> good
2016-04-29T18:33:05 < Laurenceb> they finally dieded
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2016-04-29T18:40:50 < Rob235> why is my ws2812 led library the most complicated library of this drone project :P
2016-04-29T18:41:29 < Laurenceb> because you dont have an ads1298 on it yet
2016-04-29T18:44:51 < zyp> Rob235, haha, wat
2016-04-29T18:45:12 < zyp> a simple dma setup isn't much code
2016-04-29T18:45:51 < Rob235> no but the way I'm setting it up to make animations easy adds a lot of functions whereas my other libraries don't have many helper functions
2016-04-29T18:47:28 < Rob235> its one long strip of leds but two sets of animations because there are strips under the arms and strips on the ends of the motor mounts. so having two sets of animations with different refresh rates and simple calls to create a variety of animation options adds up
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2016-04-29T18:52:52 < emeb> gah - trying to get non-blocking DMA to work and I can't get the TC IRQ to fire
2016-04-29T18:53:06 < emeb> it worked on the nucleo board but not on this custom board
2016-04-29T18:53:13 < Rob235> code?
2016-04-29T18:53:21 < Rob235> o
2016-04-29T18:53:24 < emeb> nucleo code used spi2 and custom board uses spi4
2016-04-29T18:54:02 < emeb> switched the dma channel over and blocking DMA works but the IRQ won't run
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2016-04-29T18:56:42 < emeb> http://pastebin.com/PK74MSBt
2016-04-29T18:57:02 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/QhfZp
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2016-04-29T19:08:01 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/CzD0aro.jpg
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2016-04-29T19:09:24 < ReadError> i dont get it
2016-04-29T19:09:48 < Laurenceb> i dont either
2016-04-29T19:10:17 < ReadError> were you searching for 'shirtless boys cock' ?
2016-04-29T19:10:25 < Laurenceb> lul
2016-04-29T19:10:50 < ReadError> its okay, im not here to judge
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2016-04-29T19:30:48 < jadew> it's possible that it's a club where they do a bunch of stuff, including deboning chiken and playing PC games
2016-04-29T19:32:09 < jadew> although, that's a big ammount of chiken for a single meal and it doesn't really look like the army
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2016-04-29T20:30:45 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=24e_1389418482
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2016-04-29T21:01:30 < Thorn> >The 32-bit AHB slave port allows an external bus master (e.g., DMA controller) to access
2016-04-29T21:01:30 < Thorn> to the TCM connected to the Cortex-M7 processor.
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2016-04-29T21:06:02 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKYl9abnJFQ2FmZU0/view?usp=sharing hobbying intensifies
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2016-04-29T21:06:29 < Steffanx> At least you got a free pen
2016-04-29T21:07:13 < kakimir> fool
2016-04-29T21:07:19 < kakimir> it's for scale
2016-04-29T21:07:33 < kakimir> because I ate the banana
2016-04-29T21:07:33 < jpa-> idiot
2016-04-29T21:07:40 < jpa-> yeah, should use banana
2016-04-29T21:07:52 < kakimir> I was hungry at the moment
2016-04-29T21:07:55 < jpa-> well, smart monkey for not eating the pen
2016-04-29T21:08:37 < mitrax> prosthetic bunny ears?
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2016-04-29T21:14:22 < kakimir> yes
2016-04-29T21:14:25 < kakimir> carbon
2016-04-29T21:14:59 < mitrax> sweet
2016-04-29T21:18:03 < kakimir> by calculations the bigger prop that came with hub is not optimal at all
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2016-04-29T21:18:44 < kakimir> too much pitch and too low rpm
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2016-04-29T21:31:11 < kakimir> those carbon blades are 6g piece and when hit together those have sound of 2 hardened steel bars hitting each other
2016-04-29T21:31:43 < kakimir> high *dingggg*
2016-04-29T21:32:43 < kakimir> some say that all plastic are plastic but ye
2016-04-29T21:39:04 < Laurenceb> stupid ads1298
2016-04-29T21:39:10 < Laurenceb> the hellchip
2016-04-29T21:39:27 < kakimir> aids
2016-04-29T21:39:32 < kakimir> aidschip
2016-04-29T21:39:37 < Laurenceb> been bashing my head against a brick wall for 4 weeks trying to make it work :-/
2016-04-29T21:40:01 < Laurenceb> going to be at it all weekend :(
2016-04-29T21:40:25 < kakimir> do you get paid?
2016-04-29T21:40:47 < Laurenceb> not for weekend
2016-04-29T21:41:04 < Laurenceb> but I don't get a new contract unless this shit is finished soon
2016-04-29T21:41:28 < kakimir> get better contract
2016-04-29T21:41:37 < Laurenceb> yup I should really quit
2016-04-29T21:41:46 < kakimir> eventually you need to break the loop
2016-04-29T21:41:47 < Laurenceb> or try the stripboard and opamps route
2016-04-29T21:41:57 < kakimir> of overwork
2016-04-29T21:42:49 < kakimir> I like underwork
2016-04-29T21:43:14 < kakimir> 6hours a day is just nice so I have some brain left for coding
2016-04-29T21:43:19 < kakimir> another 6 hours
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2016-04-29T21:51:14 < PaulFertser> Probably old news, but here it is: the only (paper) book cover designed in Altium: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4605
2016-04-29T21:57:19 < kakimir> is it copper?
2016-04-29T21:58:20 < PaulFertser> Nope, in the next post he describes the actual technology used to produce the cover.
2016-04-29T21:58:30 < kakimir> I wonder if there is electronics book that would be must have
2016-04-29T21:59:04 < kakimir> in programming some tight language books are usefull to have but not necessity
2016-04-29T22:00:36 < Laurenceb> a book on forcing the aids1298 to behave
2016-04-29T22:01:23 < kakimir> electronics books nowdays are about arduino
2016-04-29T22:01:39 < kakimir> literally like thousand and one books about arduino
2016-04-29T22:03:20 < mitrax> Laurenceb: are you sure it's not some super stupid thing you overlooked?
2016-04-29T22:03:39 < Laurenceb> maybe
2016-04-29T22:04:02 < Laurenceb> who knows, I haven't a clue at this point
2016-04-29T22:04:14 < mitrax> what's not working exactly?
2016-04-29T22:04:31 < Laurenceb> signals are screwed up - tons of noise and common mode
2016-04-29T22:04:43 < BrainDamage> just to piss off laurenceb https://www.dropbox.com/s/mrr1g0c2wggbr0u/IMG-20160426-WA0000.jpeg?dl=0
2016-04-29T22:04:45 < Laurenceb> it seems to be the "Right Leg Drive" common mode setting output
2016-04-29T22:04:56 < BrainDamage> and yes, i cba to use the scope screenshot
2016-04-29T22:05:09 < Laurenceb> is that opamp?
2016-04-29T22:05:22 < Laurenceb> Right Leg Drive was working yesterday
2016-04-29T22:05:27 < BrainDamage> ina recovered from a board that was going to be scrapped
2016-04-29T22:05:29 < Laurenceb> time to use old git revision
2016-04-29T22:05:34 < Laurenceb> cool
2016-04-29T22:05:45 < Laurenceb> but I need 8 channel with mux :(
2016-04-29T22:05:56 < Laurenceb> never going to happen at current rate of epic fail
2016-04-29T22:07:24 < kakimir> BrainDamage: is that butt probe signal?
2016-04-29T22:07:51 < BrainDamage> yes, rythmic muscle spams during anal rape
2016-04-29T22:08:28 < kakimir> :[]
2016-04-29T22:09:30 < Laurenceb> well its not hardware
2016-04-29T22:09:44 < Laurenceb> yesterdays code is still fucked in the same way it was yesterday
2016-04-29T22:09:50 < BrainDamage> that chip looks pretty neat
2016-04-29T22:09:58 < Laurenceb> emphasis on looks
2016-04-29T22:10:16 < Laurenceb> looks good, it a complete clusterfuck in reality
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2016-04-29T22:15:13 < Laurenceb> how do I diff two git revisons?
2016-04-29T22:15:43 < Laurenceb> nvm lurn 2 google
2016-04-29T22:15:59 < BrainDamage> git diff a b
2016-04-29T22:16:15 < BrainDamage> more interesting: git difftool
2016-04-29T22:16:57 < BrainDamage> so you can use whatever tool you want to view the diff
2016-04-29T22:17:03 < kakimir> is there any enterpreneurs on channel?
2016-04-29T22:18:38 < mitrax> i doubt it
2016-04-29T22:19:02 < kakimir> weak
2016-04-29T22:21:23 < kakimir> there statistically should be
2016-04-29T22:21:30 < kakimir> some
2016-04-29T22:22:03 < kakimir> but running company and trollin on IRC do not fit together
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2016-04-29T22:22:07 < mitrax> guess that depends on what your definition of entrepreneurship is... but if you mean someone that starts businesses / ventures etc, probably not
2016-04-29T22:22:26 < kakimir> someone who pays own salary himself
2016-04-29T22:22:28 < mitrax> it's not about irc
2016-04-29T22:22:50 < mitrax> oh... well probably a lot of us then, myself included
2016-04-29T22:23:14 < kakimir> you do subcontracting?
2016-04-29T22:23:14 < mitrax> but freelancing != entrepreneurship
2016-04-29T22:23:19 < kakimir> true
2016-04-29T22:24:55 < Laurenceb> well this makes 0 sense
2016-04-29T22:25:03 < Laurenceb> I wonder if I have buffer overflows
2016-04-29T22:25:30 < Laurenceb> as differences between "working" and non working seem irrelevant
2016-04-29T22:25:52 < mitrax> Laurenceb: is the aids code part of a project with lots of other stuff?
2016-04-29T22:26:09 < Laurenceb> yes
2016-04-29T22:26:41 < mitrax> Laurenceb: whenever i bounce into problems like you describe where stuff don't behave at all as they should i strip down the code (or hardware for that matter) to the strict minimum...
2016-04-29T22:27:19 < Laurenceb> yeah
2016-04-29T22:27:34 < Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10818199
2016-04-29T22:28:44 < Laurenceb> time to examine disassembly for buffer overflow
2016-04-29T22:29:04 < Laurenceb> as I cant see anything important in that diff
2016-04-29T22:32:34 < kakimir> we need #stm32-mars-flight
2016-04-29T22:32:58 < kakimir> little weekend project for fellas
2016-04-29T22:33:56 < Laurenceb> screw this im off, bbl
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2016-04-29T22:59:57 < Rob235> ahh 4TB drive arrived, too bad the external enclosure won't be here until tuesday
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2016-04-29T23:21:42 < Rob235> would you eat meatballs that were left out of the fridge all night in a pot with a lid on it
2016-04-29T23:24:12 < kakimir> depends of air temperature
2016-04-29T23:24:19 < kakimir> and humidity
2016-04-29T23:24:29 < kakimir> amount of flies in room
2016-04-29T23:25:03 < mitrax> Rob235: microwave them
2016-04-29T23:25:16 < Rob235> sounds good to me
2016-04-29T23:25:19 < kakimir> and when the meat bollz have been made and how many refrigeration cycles them have
2016-04-29T23:25:42 < kakimir> and if those have been touched with hands
2016-04-29T23:25:46 < Rob235> they were made last night from frozen meatballs
2016-04-29T23:25:52 < Rob235> nope
2016-04-29T23:25:56 < Rob235> I think they are fine
2016-04-29T23:25:59 < Rob235> I hope :)
2016-04-29T23:26:01 < mitrax> Rob235: 4-5 minutes at max power and you should be safe, that will kill any bacteria
2016-04-29T23:26:18 < mitrax> or well most of them :p
2016-04-29T23:26:19 < BrainDamage> you can kill the bacterias but not the toxic byproducts
2016-04-29T23:26:27 < kakimir> mitrax: it's not always the case
2016-04-29T23:26:42 < kakimir> I'm referring to what BrainDamage said
2016-04-29T23:26:58 < kakimir> but usually toxins take a while to form
2016-04-29T23:27:11 < Rob235> apartment was fairly cold all night too
2016-04-29T23:27:18 < mitrax> it's not like he's putting rotten meatballs in the microwave
2016-04-29T23:27:38 < kakimir> at 30C and 90% RHD I wouldn't touch them
2016-04-29T23:27:44 < BrainDamage> zap at high power until differential heating makes them explode, proceed to eat partially cold and scorching hot inedible mess
2016-04-29T23:27:47 < kakimir> but at 18C no problem
2016-04-29T23:28:38 < kakimir> especially if the lid stays on after heat cycle
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2016-04-29T23:38:09 < mitrax> Laurenceb: you there?
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2016-04-30T00:24:02 < karlp>  ____________
2016-04-30T00:24:02 < karlp> < figletwat? >
2016-04-30T00:24:02 < karlp>  ------------
2016-04-30T00:24:02 < karlp>         \   ^__^
2016-04-30T00:24:02 < karlp>          \  (oo)\_______
2016-04-30T00:24:05 < karlp>             (__)\       )\/\
2016-04-30T00:24:07 < karlp>                 ||----w |
2016-04-30T00:24:10 < karlp>                 ||     ||
2016-04-30T00:24:29 < Steffanx> Ban
2016-04-30T00:28:29 < karlp> oh, just this one day? peter started it :P
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2016-04-30T00:35:01 < kakimir> I see next level of shitpostin
2016-04-30T00:35:10 < kakimir> chat thru cow
2016-04-30T00:39:36 < kakimir> color format it with some rainbow command
2016-04-30T00:41:15 < karlp> next level, more like level from 10 years ago
2016-04-30T00:41:27 < karlp> I had to actually go and install cowsay, didn't even have it installed anymore
2016-04-30T01:13:30 < kakimir> ohsix: is that some textify command?
2016-04-30T01:20:53 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/3gEz6URS how to set color/animation with my ws2812b led strip library :)
2016-04-30T01:22:07 < Rob235> :)
2016-04-30T01:22:35 < Rob235> animation bits?
2016-04-30T01:22:41 < Rob235> no stm32f4
2016-04-30T01:22:58 < Rob235> I didn't implement the actual animation yet but that will be easy
2016-04-30T01:23:10 < Rob235> just setting up the structure
2016-04-30T01:24:17 < Rob235> this is fairly basic but I like how I split one continuous strip of leds into two different animations at different refresh rates with multiple layers of animation
2016-04-30T01:27:35 < Rob235> yea with mine you just set the start color and end color of each strip under each arm and choose if you want it to do a gradient blend from one to the other (or center out) then choose an animation layer like a bright pulse that fires down the arm over and over, you can set the length of that 'pulse' and if it has a gradient transparent tail and if it bounces back or which direction it moves and I'm hoping to have it so that you can
2016-04-30T01:27:36 < Rob235>  change the start/end colors of any arm without interrupting the top layer animation. that shouldn't be hard.
2016-04-30T01:29:47 < Rob235> this is for a drone if that wasn't obvious
2016-04-30T01:30:05 < Rob235> ;)
2016-04-30T01:30:51 < Rob235> mine has a mag
2016-04-30T01:31:57 < Rob235> yea I was thinking of having the leds show how the copter is tilted in the air.  if its pitch is low then have the leds at the front red and gradient to green in the back or something, so that you can tell which way it's angled
2016-04-30T01:32:23 < Rob235> yea lots to play with
2016-04-30T01:33:44 < Rob235> could even do little things (not sure if this would actually help) but make the leds brighter the farther it is to make it easier to see
2016-04-30T01:34:00 < Rob235> yea true
2016-04-30T01:34:21 < Rob235> I've never even flown a copter so I don't know what it's like when it starts getting further away
2016-04-30T01:35:07 < Rob235> yea that makes sense
2016-04-30T01:35:38 < Rob235> dinner time
2016-04-30T01:35:53 < Rob235> peace out cubscout
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2016-04-30T02:03:10 < upgrdman> how do you guys mount ssh (scp) shares in windows
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2016-04-30T02:03:23 < upgrdman> swish seemed very nice but is buggy as fuck
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2016-04-30T02:06:13 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: back?
2016-04-30T02:06:21 < Laurenceb_> yup
2016-04-30T02:06:26 < Laurenceb_> whats up?
2016-04-30T02:06:45 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: your firmware runs on STM32F1xx?
2016-04-30T02:06:50 < Laurenceb_> yes
2016-04-30T02:09:25 < mitrax> Laurenceb_: you're dereferencing a 32 bit pointer that's very likely to be misaligned in your ads1298_handle_data_arrived() function,  dat=*((uint32_t*)&(raw_data_[n*3+5])); someone corrects me if i'm wrong but i thought only M3 and above can do unaligned accesses
2016-04-30T02:09:44 < Laurenceb_> hmm
2016-04-30T02:09:49 < Laurenceb_> isnt F1 an M3?
2016-04-30T02:10:00 < mitrax> oh, i thought it was M1
2016-04-30T02:10:05 < mitrax> since F0 is M0
2016-04-30T02:10:11 < Laurenceb_> well spotted but its M3
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2016-04-30T02:10:21 < mitrax> ok nevermind then
2016-04-30T02:17:11 < Laurenceb_> mitrax: I suspect I'm getting killed by undocumented multiplexer functionality
2016-04-30T02:18:03 < Laurenceb_> documentation for this thing doesnt exactly reflect reality
2016-04-30T02:18:41 < mitrax> Laurenceb: and there's no application note with pseudo code about how to properly initialize that shit? i.e which registers in what orders etc?
2016-04-30T02:19:28 < Laurenceb_> not that I can find with all the features I want
2016-04-30T02:20:27 < Laurenceb_> yeah good point :P
2016-04-30T02:20:42 < Laurenceb_> I should also check forum
2016-04-30T02:20:45 < Laurenceb_> heh
2016-04-30T02:21:08 < Laurenceb_> wouldn't be the first time
2016-04-30T02:21:15 < Laurenceb_> Ti taking after silicon labs
2016-04-30T02:22:45 < Laurenceb_> pwnd
2016-04-30T02:24:08 < Laurenceb_> oh god
2016-04-30T02:24:12 < Laurenceb_> ADS1298 lol
2016-04-30T02:24:16 < Laurenceb_> cool nice find
2016-04-30T02:24:23 < Laurenceb_> c&p time :D
2016-04-30T02:29:08 < Laurenceb_> lul
2016-04-30T02:29:34 < Laurenceb_> yeah its the multiplexer stuff thats a pain
2016-04-30T02:30:05 < Laurenceb_> sort of
2016-04-30T02:30:12 < Laurenceb_> its not a proper multiplexer
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2016-04-30T02:35:38 < Laurenceb_> I think I'm breaking RLD by accidentally remapping
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2016-04-30T02:51:53 < mitrax> bed time, g'night
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2016-04-30T03:14:42 < Laurenceb_> uh ho
2016-04-30T03:14:51 < Laurenceb_> emdrive guy went full retard  https://neolegesmotus.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/f24250.jpg?w=550&h=283
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2016-04-30T03:40:10  * emeb ponders the feasibility of a USB MSC drag-n-drop programming app for FPGAs using stm32f042
2016-04-30T03:41:02 < emeb> plug in f042 usb device | it appears on the desktop as a flash drive | drop bitstream onto it | FPGA starts running.
2016-04-30T03:41:52 < Laurenceb_> I was going to do that for F1, but it ended up being rather large
2016-04-30T03:42:05 < Laurenceb_> so I opted for a bluetooth bootloader
2016-04-30T03:42:13 < emeb> looks like there's example USB MSC code for the f0x2 parts that does SD card MSC
2016-04-30T03:42:31 < emeb> so it should be possible to replace the SD backend with an FPGA programming backend
2016-04-30T03:43:47 < emeb> ohsix: I suspect that presents it as a raw device and any FS has to be on the storage medium
2016-04-30T03:43:54 < Laurenceb_> yeah ST seem to do SD Card mass storage as a standard example
2016-04-30T03:43:59 < Laurenceb_> very useful :D
2016-04-30T03:44:01 < emeb> so the programmer backend would have to emulate fat
2016-04-30T03:44:25 < emeb> and strip of the FS stuff on the way to the FPGA
2016-04-30T03:44:31 < Laurenceb_> it might be possible to implement some super simple FAT
2016-04-30T03:44:55 < Laurenceb_> rather than full FatFS
2016-04-30T03:45:10 < emeb> dunno anything about mbed
2016-04-30T03:45:49 < emeb> but I like the way the ST-Link V2.1 works for programming & that seems like a nice approach for other devices.
2016-04-30T03:46:12 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2016-04-30T03:46:43 < emeb> I'd probably have to learn waaaaay too much about FS low-level junk to make this work. So probably fuckit
2016-04-30T03:47:02 < Laurenceb_> heh yeah FAT is a pain
2016-04-30T03:47:19 < Laurenceb_> USB mass storage is fun
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2016-04-30T03:47:38 < emeb> If ST published the code for ST-Link V2.1 that would be a good starting pt, but I doubt they'd do that.
2016-04-30T03:47:57 < Laurenceb_> SCSI emulation
2016-04-30T03:51:14 < emeb> interesting
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2016-04-30T03:51:25 < dongs> emeb: wat about stlink v2.1? i thought drag n poop was mbed thing
2016-04-30T03:52:09 < dongs> the real important question is: do you think stlink was written using CubeHAL
2016-04-30T03:52:09 < emeb> dongs: you can drag-n-drop .bin files onto the stlink v2.1 NODE_xxx device to program
2016-04-30T03:52:21 < dongs> emeb: neat
2016-04-30T03:52:26 < dongs> which -disco has that?
2016-04-30T03:52:30 < dongs> i dont think i have any new ones like that
2016-04-30T03:52:37 < emeb> nucleos have it
2016-04-30T03:52:40 < dongs> ohh
2016-04-30T03:53:57 < emeb> and ohsix is right - that's 'mbed' - says so right in the .htm file that appears inside the NODE_xxx device
2016-04-30T03:55:44 < emeb> but mbed appears to be stuff that runs on the target processor of the nucleo, not on the stlink interface processor
2016-04-30T03:56:06 < emeb> yeah - buddy of mine works @ MCHP and helped with some of that stuff.
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2016-04-30T03:59:10 < emeb> aha - lookie there...
2016-04-30T03:59:32 < emeb> omg - it's full of FAT
2016-04-30T03:59:57 < emeb> dem arrays
2016-04-30T04:00:45 < emeb> yep - it's all there - FAT -> flash programming
2016-04-30T04:01:13 < emeb> no excuses now. :P
2016-04-30T04:01:19 < dongs> link?
2016-04-30T04:01:29 < emeb> (05:58:43 PM) ohsix: https://github.com/mbedmicro/CMSIS-DAP/blob/master/bootloader/Common/src/usbd_user_msc.c
2016-04-30T04:01:51 < dongs> lol uses keil
2016-04-30T04:02:20 < emeb> official ARM code - toolchain agnostic?
2016-04-30T04:02:37 < dongs> they know wwat the're doing
2016-04-30T04:04:01 < emeb>             // this means that we have received the sectors before root dir (linux)
2016-04-30T04:04:01 < emeb>             // we have to flush the last page into the target flash
2016-04-30T04:04:08 < dongs> haha
2016-04-30T04:04:10 < dongs> hacks for lunix trash
2016-04-30T04:04:12 < dongs> what a shock
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2016-04-30T04:05:55 < emeb> there's actually a heckuva lot of interesting stuff going on in there w/ respect to cross-platform FS work.
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2016-04-30T04:12:00 < kakimir> pc game to try: factorio
2016-04-30T04:12:08 < kakimir> also for lunix
2016-04-30T04:13:16 < kakimir> is ther multiplayer?
2016-04-30T04:15:43 < kakimir> hmm
2016-04-30T04:15:48 < kakimir> it's still kood
2016-04-30T04:16:51 < upgrdman> it == what
2016-04-30T04:18:02 < dongs> oh my
2016-04-30T04:18:06 < dongs> high quality jap cable doesnt disappoint
2016-04-30T04:18:14 < dongs> super soft
2016-04-30T04:18:23 < upgrdman> pic?
2016-04-30T04:18:38 < dongs> just usb cable
2016-04-30T04:18:39 < dongs> nothin special
2016-04-30T04:18:47 < dongs> but I didnt wanna spend $2 on a piece of shit so I paid a bit more
2016-04-30T04:18:50 < upgrdman> brnad?
2016-04-30T04:18:53 < upgrdman> brand
2016-04-30T04:18:57 < dongs> jappu stuff
2016-04-30T04:19:33 < dongs> also thicker 5v/gnd for less drop
2016-04-30T04:19:34 < dongs> very nifce
2016-04-30T04:44:51 < ds2> @#%@$#@#$@ damaged oshpark boards
2016-04-30T04:45:54 < ReadError>  oh noe whats wrong bb
2016-04-30T04:50:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ZljDetl.gifv
2016-04-30T04:50:36 < dongs> lol @ still using oshcrap in 2016
2016-04-30T04:52:54 < ReadError> i just ordered some yesterday too
2016-04-30T04:53:11 < ReadError> to get sorta legit stuff i need to spend atleast 130
2016-04-30T04:53:24 < ReadError> not worth it when you only need a few boards
2016-04-30T04:54:27 < dongs> snort
2016-04-30T04:54:37 < dongs> as if you ever need "only a few boards"
2016-04-30T04:55:03 < ReadError> heh yea I do
2016-04-30T04:55:36 < ReadError> besides now I know a sorta legit chinese place, im never hand assembling more than 12 boards again
2016-04-30T04:57:44 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-4wLHK8b/0/X3/CA_04241508155243-X3.jpg <--- suuuucked
2016-04-30T04:58:05 < ReadError> that took like an entire night off/on
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2016-04-30T05:07:58 < dongs> retarded cloner shit detected
2016-04-30T05:08:13 < dongs> nice "hobby use" there bro
2016-04-30T05:08:45 < ReadError> hm? thats old
2016-04-30T05:09:31 < ReadError> bit over a year
2016-04-30T05:09:52 < dongs> alos, therees no "legit chinese places"
2016-04-30T05:09:58 < dongs> youre shit has already been cloned
2016-04-30T05:10:13 < dongs> and sold to brotherhobby or some other trash
2016-04-30T05:11:22 < ReadError> possible sure
2016-04-30T05:11:28 < ReadError> but things are split up
2016-04-30T05:11:36 < ReadError> they dont have full gerbers
2016-04-30T05:13:51 < ReadError> nah some dumb brushed shit
2016-04-30T05:14:38 < ReadError> nah they are on that board
2016-04-30T05:14:44 < ReadError> its only for 4 motors
2016-04-30T05:15:05 < dongs> "dont have full gerbers"
2016-04-30T05:15:06 < dongs> who gives a fuck
2016-04-30T05:15:07 < dongs> lol
2016-04-30T05:15:17 < dongs> spoken like a true dumb cloner
2016-04-30T05:17:26 < ReadError> dongs ? they only have assembly data and top/bottom stencil shit
2016-04-30T05:17:50 < ReadError> if they wanted to waste time and re-do the rest they could just do from stratch
2016-04-30T05:17:55 < ReadError> scratch
2016-04-30T05:18:54 < dongs> lol and where the fuck do you think they get the boards from
2016-04-30T05:19:52 < ReadError> dongs boards are made somewhere else
2016-04-30T05:19:56 < ReadError> and sent
2016-04-30T05:20:16 < dongs> lol.
2016-04-30T05:20:23 < dongs> you're dumber than I thought then
2016-04-30T05:20:31 < ReadError> whys that?
2016-04-30T05:20:31 < dongs> cuz only idiots actually ship pcbs for production
2016-04-30T05:20:37 < dongs> because its FUCKING HEAVY AND DUMB
2016-04-30T05:20:42 < ReadError> no, they made disgusting china PCBS
2016-04-30T05:20:48 < ReadError> ive seen samples and they are horrible
2016-04-30T05:21:04 < dongs> my point is just reinfoced
2016-04-30T05:23:07 < dongs> The last link has been flagged by IRC NANNY as "Possibly Unsuitable". Please find your parent(s) first and have them check the content before opening. [this channel protected by IrCNaNNY by SafeSoft v1.0b]
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2016-04-30T05:26:39 < dongs> R2COM: you've offended emeb
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2016-04-30T05:30:42 < dongs> he had to turn his mac on to view the image
2016-04-30T05:30:49 < dongs> lunix couldnt display it
2016-04-30T05:32:06 < dongs> bloggin
2016-04-30T05:32:08 < dongs> loading dicknplace
2016-04-30T05:34:11 < dongs> might get my silabs tv stufff next week need to finish that innovation too
2016-04-30T05:36:01 < dongs> workstuff
2016-04-30T05:36:39 < dongs> some monitoring junk for DVB-S2X
2016-04-30T05:40:16 < dongs> R2COM: they're already doing a pretty good job https://gfycat.com/UnselfishDecisiveGemsbok
2016-04-30T05:40:37 < dongs> lots of latest shit is nice clear 1080p
2016-04-30T05:41:05 < ReadError> did you see that vice vid Laurenceb posted
2016-04-30T05:41:12 < ReadError> of the headcam on the ISIS guy
2016-04-30T05:41:12 < dongs> i dont click on vice links
2016-04-30T05:41:13 < dongs> sorry
2016-04-30T05:41:19 < dongs> they dont even deserve my ad $s
2016-04-30T05:41:35 < ReadError> all a bunch of fucking idiots
2016-04-30T05:41:45 < ReadError> oh i adblock
2016-04-30T05:41:47 < ReadError> but they all die
2016-04-30T05:42:00 < ReadError> (spoiler)
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2016-04-30T06:01:22 < dongs> you misspell 'cloner'
2016-04-30T06:03:03 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Manufacture-Product-for-10366378/
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2016-04-30T07:07:26 < emeb_mac> frankie say "relax"
2016-04-30T07:10:48 < ReadError> woh
2016-04-30T07:11:00 < ReadError> new altium footprint wizard, supports adding the assembly layer
2016-04-30T07:11:03 < ReadError> tits
2016-04-30T07:51:04 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/xrtB1w.jpg
2016-04-30T07:51:11 < ReadError> no way to do this easily in altidumb?
2016-04-30T07:52:12 < ReadError> do i have people on ignore or are you scrolled up?
2016-04-30T07:52:35 < ReadError> the bevel
2016-04-30T07:55:08 < ReadError> qfn
2016-04-30T08:04:37 < emeb_mac> got a bunch of f042 in QFN48 from future elec this week. cheep
2016-04-30T08:04:48 < emeb_mac> just need to figure out what to do with them now. :P
2016-04-30T08:05:11 < ReadError> noice, how much?
2016-04-30T08:05:35 < emeb_mac> like $14 for 10
2016-04-30T08:05:42 < ReadError> not bad
2016-04-30T08:05:56 < ReadError> you used https://www.verical.com/ ?
2016-04-30T08:06:09 < ReadError> they have some really decent prices on some stm32
2016-04-30T08:06:11 < emeb_mac> I've not bought from verical before, but I know some folks who have
2016-04-30T08:06:26 < emeb_mac> usually needs large qty tho
2016-04-30T08:06:47 < ReadError> nah they do singles
2016-04-30T08:06:55 < ReadError> on most anyways
2016-04-30T08:07:06 < emeb_mac> hmmm...
2016-04-30T08:07:26 < emeb_mac> oh right - they do small qty, but their shipping is crazy expensive.
2016-04-30T08:07:27 < ReadError> file->new->library->pcb library
2016-04-30T08:07:33 < emeb_mac> and they bill shipping per line item
2016-04-30T08:07:41 < ReadError> oh damn that sucks
2016-04-30T08:07:49 < ReadError> figured there was some catch
2016-04-30T08:07:58 < ReadError> you have a schedule? wat
2016-04-30T08:08:23 < ReadError> you have things you need to do??
2016-04-30T08:09:16 < emeb_mac> dogs. meh.
2016-04-30T08:09:31 < emeb_mac> get a cat - they take care of themselves, mostly. :)
2016-04-30T08:10:13 < emeb_mac> :(
2016-04-30T08:11:05 < ReadError> should import a jap cat
2016-04-30T08:11:14 < ReadError> they seem to have the coolest cats
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2016-04-30T08:15:01 < ReadError> its just a temporary dog?
2016-04-30T08:20:59 < PaulFertser> ohsix: why do you like cats them? It seems pretty much impossible to train them anyhow, they just want food and other than that always do whatever they fuck they want.
2016-04-30T08:22:08 < PaulFertser> Many dogs are no less curious, afaict.
2016-04-30T08:23:44 < PaulFertser> Sounds somewhat stupid, eh?
2016-04-30T08:24:35 < PaulFertser> :(
2016-04-30T08:24:58 < PaulFertser> I've two cats, really love them.
2016-04-30T08:28:43 < PeterM> ReadError, verical are good for qty 500+~ and shipping isnt that bad for continental us
2016-04-30T08:29:20 < dongs> verical shipping isnt bad for me either
2016-04-30T08:29:31 < dongs> i even got in on freeship shit a few times
2016-04-30T08:29:46 < dongs> worst case if its really bad i can always drop it in alaska
2016-04-30T08:30:17 < PeterM> their pricing structure is weird though, iot seems like they only sell like production excess or something
2016-04-30T08:30:29 < dongs> sure
2016-04-30T08:30:32 < dongs> its all excess shit there
2016-04-30T08:31:00 < PeterM> also, free ship today so...
2016-04-30T08:31:25 < dongs> 13:51 < ReadError> no way to do this easily in altidumb?
2016-04-30T08:31:27 < dongs> stoner
2016-04-30T08:31:37 < dongs> < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/iK6vMWS.png altidumb.png
2016-04-30T08:32:16 < dongs> ReadError: ^
2016-04-30T08:33:01 < ReadError> yea but theres no way to make a pad like that, well a true 'pad'
2016-04-30T08:34:06 < dongs> https://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Creating+a+Custom+Pad+Shape not hard to rtfm
2016-04-30T08:35:12 < ReadError> well ya a region
2016-04-30T08:35:25 < ReadError> too much work, i keep the normal
2016-04-30T08:36:39 < dongs> lazy cloner/stoner
2016-04-30T08:36:44 < dongs> this took literally like 30 seconds to draw
2016-04-30T08:36:49 < dongs> and array paste
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2016-04-30T09:22:33 < mumptai> hi
2016-04-30T09:22:39 < mumptai> can the stlink/V2 be updated to stlink/2-1 ?
2016-04-30T09:28:47 < dongs> download stlink-utility and find out?
2016-04-30T09:28:56 < dongs> it has all firmware flash images
2016-04-30T09:29:10 < dongs> what hte fuck is tehre a smaller transistor outline than SC70
2016-04-30T09:29:11 < emeb_mac> I got some of those v2 clone dongles. haven't tried 'em yet
2016-04-30T09:29:56 < emeb_mac> they don't seem to have the extra pins to support the usart function of 2.1
2016-04-30T09:30:11 < emeb_mac> which is the main thing I like about 2.1
2016-04-30T09:31:32 < emeb_mac> handy for diagnostics / debugging
2016-04-30T09:31:54 < emeb_mac> I find it easier
2016-04-30T09:32:09 < emeb_mac> and semihosting seems to incur some penalties
2016-04-30T09:32:24 < emeb_mac> plus it requires all the glib stdio stuff
2016-04-30T09:32:47 < emeb_mac> I use tinyprintf + usart. bang - done.
2016-04-30T09:33:22 < dongs> sucks for you
2016-04-30T09:33:36 < dongs> i use keil, its printf *with floats* takes up less code space than any gnu abortion
2016-04-30T09:34:25 < emeb_mac> too pro for me.
2016-04-30T09:34:30 < emeb_mac> zzzzz time - gn
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2016-04-30T09:36:41 < dongs> SOT523
2016-04-30T09:36:44 < dongs> i thought that was sc70
2016-04-30T09:36:46 < dongs> i guess iw as wrong
2016-04-30T09:38:16 < dongs> these optoisolator SO8 things are funky
2016-04-30T09:38:19 < dongs> very high plastic package
2016-04-30T09:38:38 < PeterM> dongs sc-89 is nice
2016-04-30T09:38:45 < dongs> is that waht it is?
2016-04-30T09:38:59 < PeterM> smaller sc-70
2016-04-30T09:39:04 < dongs> yeah thats hwat i got
2016-04-30T09:39:10 < dongs> it fits into my sc70footprint luckily
2016-04-30T09:39:18 < dongs> but looks like im modifyting for production lolo
2016-04-30T09:39:34 < PeterM> SOT523 is pretty similar to sc-89
2016-04-30T09:40:34 < dongs> also this board hias pink led on it
2016-04-30T09:40:49 < PeterM> hawt
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2016-04-30T09:43:45 < dongs> looks liek sc89 shit soldered safely
2016-04-30T09:43:46 < dongs> nice
2016-04-30T09:43:57 < dongs> i'd hate to try to rework that trash if it didnt
2016-04-30T09:55:18 < dongs> omg
2016-04-30T09:55:28 < dongs> pinkkk
2016-04-30T10:07:50 < dongs> nice1. now i have to swap 2 pins on a .5mm pitch msop
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2016-04-30T10:11:43 < PeterM> same sideo ro diff?
2016-04-30T10:11:57 < dongs> next to each other
2016-04-30T10:12:03 < dongs> got dp/dm fucked up
2016-04-30T10:12:05 < PeterM> kek
2016-04-30T10:12:17 < dongs> you'd think something that was advertised as FLOW THROUGH actaully would be
2016-04-30T10:12:23 < PeterM> ya
2016-04-30T10:19:23 < dongs> well that fixed it
2016-04-30T10:19:26 < dongs> fff
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2016-04-30T10:41:37 < dongs> jew eradication sounds good
2016-04-30T10:45:26 < dongs> bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device
2016-04-30T10:45:27 < dongs> lol
2016-04-30T10:45:29 < dongs> lunix
2016-04-30T10:45:33 < dongs> EVERYTHING IS A FAIL(E)
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2016-04-30T11:02:09 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/3p6Ul2Y :/
2016-04-30T11:08:57 < dongs> lunix trash detected
2016-04-30T11:10:15 < ReadError> ohsix renesis ?
2016-04-30T11:10:54 < Fleck> I don't care :D
2016-04-30T11:11:35 < Fleck> virtual size is 8GB
2016-04-30T11:12:30 < dongs> loosenix
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2016-04-30T11:39:59 < Steffanx> whats pumping crt?
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2016-04-30T12:02:43 < dongs> Q: What's the difference between USA and USB?
2016-04-30T12:02:47 < dongs>  A: One connects to all your devices & accesses your data, and the other is a hardware standard
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2016-04-30T12:27:12 < Steffanx> Whats the difference between an old "joke"and a new one?
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2016-04-30T12:28:54 < Steffanx> must browse imgur more, because even i've seen this on imgur
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2016-04-30T13:11:19 < dongs> Steffanx: the usb one? sorry.
2016-04-30T13:11:22 < dongs> it was just tweetred to me today
2016-04-30T13:11:29 < Steffanx> :P
2016-04-30T13:14:06 < Steffanx> Too bad it so true, those yankees..
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2016-04-30T13:35:34 < dongs> so fucking stoned
2016-04-30T13:47:00 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/t1voNwo.gifv
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2016-04-30T14:18:27 < Steffanx> is there an "find the video of the gif" tool yet?
2016-04-30T14:19:29 < Steffanx> time to index every youtube video.
2016-04-30T14:21:33 < Steffanx> What isnt?
2016-04-30T14:21:44 < dongs> reloading dicknplace
2016-04-30T14:21:53 < dongs> not much time for autism
2016-04-30T14:26:20 < ReadError> i want that loose part collection
2016-04-30T14:26:34 < ReadError> dumb a fuckload of parts into bins and let vision sort it out
2016-04-30T14:26:38 < ReadError> dump*
2016-04-30T14:36:34 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/59T205y.jpg made arduino today
2016-04-30T14:39:39 < Steffanx> i see no tarduino headers
2016-04-30T14:40:12 < Steffanx> are you kakimiring there dongs?
2016-04-30T14:40:15 < Steffanx> sma?
2016-04-30T14:41:16 < dongs> MCX
2016-04-30T14:41:51 < dongs> no i was referring to white silk flood
2016-04-30T14:41:59 < dongs> like tarduino does with blue/white boards
2016-04-30T14:42:35 < Steffanx> Yeah that's pro.
2016-04-30T14:42:42 < ReadError> so many vias
2016-04-30T14:42:52 < Steffanx> Also kakimir style
2016-04-30T14:43:02 < ReadError> yup
2016-04-30T14:43:25 < Steffanx> cloner D:
2016-04-30T14:43:28 < dongs> ^
2016-04-30T14:44:06 < ReadError> hes calling u a cloner
2016-04-30T14:44:11 < Steffanx> ^
2016-04-30T14:44:14 < ReadError> swag jackin kakimir's style
2016-04-30T14:44:25 < dongs> no, the cloner is readstoner
2016-04-30T14:44:29 < dongs> spotted all those vias
2016-04-30T14:44:31 < dongs> liek a pro cloner
2016-04-30T14:44:56 < ReadError> bish plz
2016-04-30T14:44:56 < Sync> dongs: did you see my request for cloner?
2016-04-30T14:45:01 < ReadError> i got eclipse open
2016-04-30T14:45:04 < ReadError> openocd running
2016-04-30T14:45:08 < dongs> Sync: no, retweet
2016-04-30T14:45:09 < ReadError> innovation is taking place
2016-04-30T14:45:16 < dongs> Lastlog:
2016-04-30T14:45:16 < dongs> 20:44 < Sync> dongs: did you see my request for cloner?
2016-04-30T14:45:16 < dongs> 20:45 < dongs> Sync: no, retweet
2016-04-30T14:45:18 < dongs> nothing in lastlog
2016-04-30T14:45:31 < dongs> i might have acutlaly been busy
2016-04-30T14:45:51 < Sync> gei
2016-04-30T14:45:52 < Sync> 1sec
2016-04-30T14:45:53 < Steffanx> lol.
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2016-04-30T14:47:09 < Sync> I need some STM32F303CB shits
2016-04-30T14:47:14 < dongs> yeah
2016-04-30T14:47:15 < Sync> and wanted to ask what china can do ;)
2016-04-30T14:47:16 < dongs> those are cheap
2016-04-30T14:47:21 < dongs> real cheap
2016-04-30T14:47:38 < dongs> i think <=$2 or somethig, I forget
2016-04-30T14:48:34 < dongs> ok i lied, $3.10 last time I bought a few 100
2016-04-30T14:48:48 < Sync> k
2016-04-30T14:51:23 < dongs> verical has them for $3.7 if you dont need a lot
2016-04-30T14:52:25 < Sync> hmm
2016-04-30T14:52:54 < Sync> true
2016-04-30T14:53:03 < dongs> but shipping will be dumb
2016-04-30T14:53:14 < dongs> if you dont care about waiting for next week when chinagirl is back from some shitty holiday
2016-04-30T14:53:20 < dongs> can do the same thing like last time
2016-04-30T14:53:53 < Sync> yeah, it's not time critical
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2016-04-30T15:03:54 < Sync> dongs: what about stm32f405vg shits?
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2016-04-30T17:50:02 < Laurenceb> https://gfycat.com/MagnificentWarmGordonsetter
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2016-04-30T17:56:09 < Laurenceb> another day another ads1298 fail
2016-04-30T17:59:09 < Laurenceb> decisions decisions
2016-04-30T17:59:35 < Laurenceb> maybe I should try replicating whole thing on breadboard where I can probe every line
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2016-04-30T18:00:40 < ReadError> why not use a different part
2016-04-30T18:01:04 < Sync> because the ads has everything integrated
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2016-04-30T18:01:37 < ReadError> ahh i see, kind of a niche part
2016-04-30T18:03:11 < Laurenceb> I have pcbs now :-/
2016-04-30T18:03:40 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/9KKfh8m
2016-04-30T18:04:00 < Laurenceb> the "Right Leg Drive" output at startup
2016-04-30T18:04:15 < Laurenceb> I dont know what the actual fuck is going on
2016-04-30T18:04:23 < Laurenceb> it should be stable at 1.65v
2016-04-30T18:04:47 < Laurenceb> there are no commands sent
2016-04-30T18:05:24 < Laurenceb> and its not a hardware issue, as code from a few days ago works fine, yet there are no changes that should change the behaviour
2016-04-30T18:05:33 < Laurenceb> time to probe all the spi lines :S
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2016-04-30T18:15:32 < Laurenceb> I'm literally out of ideas :(
2016-04-30T18:15:51 < Laurenceb> maybe it can be repurposed as a free energy generator
2016-04-30T18:16:45 < lorenzo> http://i.imgur.com/A0gvYvS.png "Frequency Error ≤1.5%"
2016-04-30T18:17:17 < Steffanx>  lol pebkac Laurenceb :P
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2016-04-30T18:50:49 < Laurenceb> maybe my stack is corrupted
2016-04-30T18:51:07 < Laurenceb> how do I find top of heap?
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2016-04-30T19:00:53 < zyp> check your sbrk implementation, it should have a variable containing that
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2016-04-30T19:15:59 < Laurenceb> ok
2016-04-30T19:18:07 < Laurenceb> nice, gdb segfaulted
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2016-04-30T19:19:13 < Laurenceb> ok I think I found the problem location
2016-04-30T19:19:41 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/ads1298.c
2016-04-30T19:19:57 < Laurenceb> somewhere between lines 140 and 144, the first four bytes of header are corrupted
2016-04-30T19:21:41 < Laurenceb> but I can't see any way thats possible :(
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2016-04-30T19:29:43 < Laurenceb> what the fuuuu
2016-04-30T19:29:56 < Laurenceb> it'd help if gdb stopped segfaulting
2016-04-30T19:38:00 < Sync> what are you doing that gdb swagfaults?
2016-04-30T19:38:23 < Laurenceb> just stepping and stuff
2016-04-30T19:38:27 < Sync> hmm
2016-04-30T19:39:53 < Laurenceb> now gdb says header is uncorrupted
2016-04-30T19:39:59 < Laurenceb> yet scope disagrees
2016-04-30T19:40:31 < Steffanx> using openocd very old or gdb very old?
2016-04-30T19:40:39 < Laurenceb> using texane
2016-04-30T19:40:43 < Laurenceb> new gdb
2016-04-30T19:41:04 < Steffanx> texane, i see your issue there.
2016-04-30T19:41:12 < Steffanx> talking about autism.
2016-04-30T19:41:47 < Laurenceb> heh
2016-04-30T19:41:53 < Laurenceb> I can't make openocd work
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2016-04-30T19:42:15 < Laurenceb> don't say I have to waste hours on that too :(
2016-04-30T19:42:40 < Sync> openocd works for me just fine
2016-04-30T19:43:05 < Steffanx> it does for everyone but one.
2016-04-30T19:46:04 < PaulFertser> That said, there might be some issues with the latest gdb from g-a-e and openocd. Unfortunately, none of those who reproduced managed to dig deep enough to fix it.
2016-04-30T19:46:07 < PaulFertser> karlp: ^
2016-04-30T19:46:37 < PaulFertser> But as a quick fix, it's trivial to use gdb from older g-a-e release.
2016-04-30T19:47:04 < Laurenceb> well screw this
2016-04-30T19:47:26 < Laurenceb> time to solder on some cables for logic anylizer on all the traces
2016-04-30T19:47:31 < Laurenceb> however you spell it
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2016-04-30T20:13:59 < Laurenceb> well yup my header variable is corrupted
2016-04-30T20:15:28 < Laurenceb> how do watchpoints work in c?
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2016-04-30T20:16:26 < Steffanx> Do you actually run all the code all the time or did you isolate this new stuff?
2016-04-30T20:16:34 < Steffanx> because your code seems to be huge.
2016-04-30T20:16:58 < Laurenceb> I'm just testing the startup stuff
2016-04-30T20:17:05 < Laurenceb> by setting breakpoints
2016-04-30T20:17:23 < Laurenceb> does M3 support hardware watchpoints?
2016-04-30T20:18:55 < Laurenceb> as I'm getting errors when I try
2016-04-30T20:20:51 < Steffanx> it does data breakpoints.
2016-04-30T20:21:53 < Laurenceb> ah
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2016-04-30T20:26:54 < PaulFertser> Yeah, watchpoints are wonderful, especially when it comes to corruption from other threads.
2016-04-30T20:30:43 < Laurenceb> well its not stack/heap collision
2016-04-30T20:31:47 < Laurenceb> ok so how do I do this in gdb?
2016-04-30T20:31:57 < Laurenceb> watch *<address> gives me an error
2016-04-30T20:32:28 < Laurenceb> rwatch?
2016-04-30T20:33:17 < karlp> what error does it give you?
2016-04-30T20:34:03 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: watch <variable name>
2016-04-30T20:34:22 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: or watch (uint32_t*)0xNNNNNNN
2016-04-30T20:34:33 < PaulFertser> Something like that
2016-04-30T20:34:38 < Laurenceb> one sec
2016-04-30T20:34:43 < Laurenceb> I'm fighting gdb atm
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2016-04-30T20:34:57 < PaulFertser> Probably you need to dereference in tha last case
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2016-04-30T20:36:24 < Laurenceb> its too broken :-/
2016-04-30T20:36:39 < Laurenceb> I'm going to try latest texane before commencing work on making openocd work
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2016-04-30T20:43:02 < Laurenceb> ok back in action
2016-04-30T20:43:05 < Laurenceb> Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
2016-04-30T20:43:05 < Laurenceb> 0x080077b6
2016-04-30T20:43:23 < Laurenceb> its accepting watchpoints now, does that look like a watchpoint was hit ^  ?
2016-04-30T20:46:13 < PaulFertser> Yes
2016-04-30T20:51:13 < Laurenceb> ah but only read watchpoints
2016-04-30T20:51:49 < Laurenceb> Could not insert hardware watchpoint 7.
2016-04-30T20:52:10 < jpa-> there is a limit
2016-04-30T20:52:33 < Laurenceb> I only have two breakpoints
2016-04-30T20:52:37 < Laurenceb> no other watchpoints
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2016-04-30T21:09:38 < Laurenceb> that watchpoint works nicely
2016-04-30T21:09:51 < Laurenceb> weird that "watch" fails tho
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2016-04-30T21:14:00 < Laurenceb> hmm looks like I have issues with alignement and dereferencing
2016-04-30T21:16:45 < Laurenceb> header has "holes" in it
2016-04-30T21:17:09 < Laurenceb> to pack it up to 20 bytes and align with boundaries
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2016-04-30T22:16:55 < Steffanx> lol wut?
2016-04-30T22:17:04 < Steffanx> long time no see mr R2COM
2016-04-30T22:19:21 < Steffanx> busy working on spacex mars mission?
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2016-04-30T22:30:28 < Laurenceb> finally http://i.imgur.com/k9VCtFG.png
2016-04-30T22:31:18 < Laurenceb> llu
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2016-04-30T22:45:14 < kakimir> I had weird dream
2016-04-30T22:48:27 < kakimir> basically I was checking out university chicks asses at some facility corridor with some bros
2016-04-30T22:49:02 < kakimir> which doesn't compute because uni chicks barelly eat
2016-04-30T22:51:06 < kakimir> no
2016-04-30T22:51:30 < kakimir> my grandma came in my lab and I woke up
2016-04-30T22:59:14 < kakimir> how is R2COM's quest for bubble butts?
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2016-04-30T23:23:35 < Steffanx> Do people tell you you are weird, often kakimir?
2016-04-30T23:40:32 < kakimir> 90% time it's Steffanx saying
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2016-04-30T23:49:55 < chris_99> Hi, I'm just wondering has anyone here used the WICED Wi-Fi dev kit with an STM32 out of interest, from what i've read you can apparently use it to create TLS clients/servers
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