--- Log opened Sun May 01 00:00:56 2016 2016-05-01T00:05:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.85.200] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-01T00:12:49 < Steffanx> And the other 10% kakimir? Grandma? 2016-05-01T00:13:08 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dkjkdhtkzoofzurl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T00:14:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T00:14:13 < Steffanx> Didnt you use this hobbymachine to cut stencils readerror? How did that go? Ever got useable results? 2016-05-01T00:19:36 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-89-216.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T00:20:12 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-6-31.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T00:27:53 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-231-90.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T00:27:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-6-31.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T00:32:25 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-01T00:33:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-01T00:38:07 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@81.4.100.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-01T00:38:16 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@2a00:d880:6:3fb::2568] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T00:43:37 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T00:43:53 < Laurenceb_> sup 2016-05-01T00:44:32 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qgyGAJkvWY train pronz 2016-05-01T00:45:56 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-231-90.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T00:47:20 < Laurenceb_> brakes onto surface of wheel !? 2016-05-01T00:48:36 < Rob235> what is the difference between connection lost and failsafe for the x8r receiver 2016-05-01T00:50:27 < kakimir> other one does sudden 100% servo movements 2016-05-01T00:50:33 < kakimir> and crashes your stuff 2016-05-01T00:50:57 < Rob235> doesnt that depend on your radio settings and also flight controller? 2016-05-01T00:51:04 < kakimir> other one keeps whatever state and never comes back 2016-05-01T00:51:13 < kakimir> plane flies to horizon 2016-05-01T00:51:19 < Rob235> failsafe never comes back? 2016-05-01T00:51:51 < kakimir> oh 2016-05-01T00:51:57 < kakimir> we are talkin about frsky 2016-05-01T00:52:12 < kakimir> I thought x8r was some turnigy receiver 2016-05-01T00:53:08 < kakimir> but isn't failsafe == lost connection? 2016-05-01T00:54:17 < Rob235> I don't know, that's what I'm trying to figure out 2016-05-01T00:55:03 < kakimir> it is 2016-05-01T00:55:20 < Rob235> maybe failsafe activates after enough frames are lost 2016-05-01T00:55:26 < kakimir> falsafe mode does thing X when there is problem with signals 2016-05-01T00:55:54 < Rob235> so does it just signify that failsafe mode is on? 2016-05-01T00:55:59 < kakimir> set states of channel outputs or last state or so on 2016-05-01T00:56:07 < kakimir> read manual 2016-05-01T00:56:40 < Rob235> there isn't one for something like this 2016-05-01T00:57:00 < kakimir> take similar manual 2016-05-01T00:57:02 < Rob235> the sbus protocol isn't open source 2016-05-01T00:57:43 < Rob235> just reverse engineered with less than descriptive documentation 2016-05-01T00:57:48 < kakimir> I don't think you can affect failsafe with that? 2016-05-01T00:58:25 < kakimir> you need to do some jumper shiet 2016-05-01T00:58:36 < kakimir> to config it 2016-05-01T00:58:43 < Rob235> I don't want to affect anything, I want to know what to do when these flags are encountered so the controller can act accordingly 2016-05-01T00:58:45 < kakimir> or something 2016-05-01T00:59:17 < Rob235> Its just reading a flag, I just want to know specifically what the flags signify 2016-05-01T01:01:08 < kakimir> there is reverse engineering attempts online 2016-05-01T01:01:11 < kakimir> just google 2016-05-01T01:23:56 < Laurenceb_> BrainDamage: I think I got better results than your scope + inst amp http://i.imgur.com/k9VCtFG.png 2016-05-01T01:30:02 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-89-195.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T01:32:11 < kakimir> I finally installed some user-harrasing free anti-virus 2016-05-01T01:33:12 < Laurenceb_> whyyyy 2016-05-01T01:33:17 < Laurenceb_> windows I presume? 2016-05-01T01:35:04 < kakimir> some site on free shiet hosting service came thru the browser and made defender to lite up 2016-05-01T01:40:29 < kakimir> I don't trust defender to catch nothing but tip of the tail when the worm diggs itself in 2016-05-01T01:40:41 < kakimir> if even that 2016-05-01T01:40:56 < Rob235> stop downloading shady shit 2016-05-01T01:41:20 < kakimir> I.. 2016-05-01T01:43:28 < kakimir> I was lookin at computer cases and then followed link from forum and it landed on some anime themed computer case page on some shady free hosting domain and warnings popped up 2016-05-01T01:44:52 < kakimir> I was like "shiet they are in.. crack the netbook in bieces and remove the battery before they get my good stuff" 2016-05-01T01:48:47 < kakimir> I didn't neather 2016-05-01T01:49:42 < kakimir> I felt safe under protective gaze of the Big Bill 2016-05-01T01:50:16 < kakimir> when even a keystroke doesn't go unnoticed 2016-05-01T01:51:19 < kakimir> better play factorio 2016-05-01T01:54:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-ced070d5.06-327-67626725.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-01T01:54:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-ced070d5.06-327-67626725.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T01:55:33 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-ced070d5.06-327-67626725.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T01:55:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-ced070d5.06-327-67626725.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-01T02:07:04 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-ced070d5.06-327-67626725.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-01T02:09:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T02:20:32 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dkjkdhtkzoofzurl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-01T02:40:42 < Rob235> made a list, 12 things (some big some small) to do to get this hex flying 2016-05-01T02:41:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T02:41:55 < Rob235> I just want an exact specification as to what triggers it but it doesn't really matter for my code, I'm not going to use that frame of data unless both flags are off obviously 2016-05-01T02:44:29 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T02:46:41 < Rob235> If 1-5 frames were lost or failsafe then I would lower the throttle but keep angle, any more than that I would put it in hover mode, then if it doesn't recover within 10 seconds it can return to home. Not sure if this is a good idea but it's what I came up with in a quick brainstorm 2016-05-01T02:48:36 < Rob235> what do you mean 2016-05-01T02:49:08 < Rob235> see how the receiver reacts to know how to have to code react? 2016-05-01T02:51:48 < Rob235> well if gps isn't on (which it won't be until I finish it) I would do something different, I know the failsafe is customizable 2016-05-01T02:52:15 < Rob235> so instead of configuring it with the radio I'm configuring it in my code 2016-05-01T02:54:39 < Rob235> yea I already started a waypoint logger 2016-05-01T02:55:43 < Rob235> I don't see that happening 2016-05-01T02:56:35 < Rob235> I'll add a bunch of ultrasonic sensors 2016-05-01T02:57:21 < Rob235> it can detect a car coming and raise it's altitude to account for it :) 2016-05-01T02:57:34 < Rob235> this thing isn't going to be flying for days 2016-05-01T02:57:59 < Rob235> probably but it will be fun to try and avoid everything 2016-05-01T02:58:11 < Rob235> i know 2016-05-01T02:58:34 < Rob235> but I also know I will avoid flying that low above a road 2016-05-01T02:59:43 < Rob235> i have gps and ultrasonic already 2016-05-01T03:00:14 < Rob235> they are both reading values but the controller isn't using them yet 2016-05-01T03:02:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-01T03:09:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T03:10:04 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T03:38:44 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T03:48:30 < dongs> Sync: dont know only bought 405Rx before. can check next week 2016-05-01T03:55:58 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-01T03:58:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T03:59:41 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-89-195.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-05-01T04:01:24 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-89-195.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T04:09:52 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/toner-chip-emulator/ 2016-05-01T04:13:29 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/XwzDKbs.png arduino based 2016-05-01T04:14:59 < dongs> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c5d_1462037161 2016-05-01T04:15:04 < dongs> might be nsfw 2016-05-01T04:17:13 < dongs> http://www.nooski.com/products/mouse-trap/ do want 2016-05-01T04:35:21 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-01T04:35:58 < Laurenceb_> holy shit thats epic 2016-05-01T04:36:06 < Laurenceb_> I'd prefer toxic gas mouse trap 2016-05-01T04:36:33 < Laurenceb_> when I was about 14 I made a mustard gas recipe off the internets 2016-05-01T04:36:46 < Laurenceb_> then tried it on myself as I didn't think it'd worked 2016-05-01T04:37:04 < Laurenceb_> bad idea, it was mustard gas 2016-05-01T04:37:26 < Sync> there are "traps" like that 2016-05-01T04:37:33 < Sync> and the ones that shoot cartridges 2016-05-01T04:38:01 < dongs> no wonder youre so fuckd up 2016-05-01T04:38:15 < Sync> there are phosegene generating sticks that pros use and stick in rat tunnels 2016-05-01T04:38:51 < Laurenceb_> nice I should try phosegene 2016-05-01T04:38:57 < Laurenceb_> just not test on myself this time 2016-05-01T04:39:07 < Sync> -e tho 2016-05-01T04:39:16 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: yes 2016-05-01T04:39:29 < dongs> autism: no 2016-05-01T04:48:37 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-01T04:50:44 -!- realityslave1 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awrqpkhprrisolvb] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T05:01:01 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T05:04:11 < dongs> sup innovation 2016-05-01T05:07:40 < dongs> > 2013 2016-05-01T05:08:03 < dongs> flyback: i got pink leds 2016-05-01T05:10:09 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/rdvKcYZ.png 2016-05-01T05:26:12 < upgrdman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHznVR9bwtg 2016-05-01T05:28:12 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T05:31:26 < upgrdman> lolwut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV-cgsRNkIc 2016-05-01T05:34:09 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ulwzahkltohrybql] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T05:45:36 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-89-195.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T05:45:37 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-175-187.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T05:50:36 < upgrdman> sup 2016-05-01T05:51:21 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-01T05:52:33 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T05:53:53 < upgrdman> juarez? 2016-05-01T05:54:47 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-01T05:55:52 < dongs> who you talkin to 2016-05-01T06:01:12 < upgrdman> holy shit. i think a transformer just blew outside 2016-05-01T06:01:23 < upgrdman> loudest brightest shit i've ever seen 2016-05-01T06:01:56 < upgrdman> throught my curtains it looks like an arc furnace was just outside my window 2016-05-01T06:02:00 < upgrdman> looked* 2016-05-01T06:02:39 < dongs> RIP 2016-05-01T06:08:40 < upgrdman> right 2016-05-01T06:09:41 < upgrdman> when i got back to the 1st world i immediately realized to things 2016-05-01T06:09:49 < dongs> america sucks? 2016-05-01T06:09:55 < upgrdman> 1. chinese girls have small tits 2016-05-01T06:09:55 < dongs> how many fat people did you see in china 2016-05-01T06:10:17 < upgrdman> 2. the air smells nice in the 1st world. like you can smell flowers, etc 2016-05-01T06:10:45 < dongs> (1) pretty much invalidates any other problems tho 2016-05-01T06:10:52 < PeterM> upgrdman, im waiting for "and chinese girls suck dick like its their only source of nutrients" comment. 2016-05-01T06:10:53 < dongs> cuz fuck fat americans with huge plastic t its 2016-05-01T06:11:01 < upgrdman> step off the plane, and not one minute later i see this beautiful fit woman when big perky tits 2016-05-01T06:11:07 < upgrdman> PeterM, lol 2016-05-01T06:15:43 < PeterM> upgrdman, the main thing i noticed about .cn was everyhting that was dusty was grey, not brown, and as things got dirty, thye got grey, nto brown. 2016-05-01T06:15:54 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-01T06:16:11 < upgrdman> either gray or rust stains. never brown 2016-05-01T06:16:59 < PeterM> i didnt really notice the smell differerence though 2016-05-01T06:17:11 < englishman> what happens if you click https://www.google.ca/search?q=tiananmen+square in china 2016-05-01T06:17:43 < englishman> or try to send money to http://www.dalailamatrust.org/ 2016-05-01T06:21:16 < PeterM> probably nothing 2016-05-01T06:22:15 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-01T06:22:19 < upgrdman> nothing happens 2016-05-01T06:22:27 < upgrdman> like, it would time out if you try google.com 2016-05-01T06:22:41 < upgrdman> but that's what VPNs are for :) 2016-05-01T06:24:27 < dongs> ya china h8s google 2016-05-01T06:25:00 < PeterM> but who cares, just baidu 2016-05-01T06:27:09 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Mobile-Phone/Modify-driver-application-mobile-phones/ 2016-05-01T06:27:13 < dongs> this fucking asshole is back 2016-05-01T06:27:20 < dongs> i think its the capacitative fingerprint guy 2016-05-01T06:27:22 < dongs> same MO 2016-05-01T06:27:28 < dongs> like ~10 projectgs posted wiht same name 2016-05-01T06:28:07 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/circuit-designing-bluetooth-headset/ 2016-05-01T06:28:10 < dongs> haha 2016-05-01T06:28:12 < dongs> bluetooth headset for $80 2016-05-01T06:28:13 < dongs> 'kay 2016-05-01T06:29:34 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/29/hitomi_space_scope_declared_lost/ RIP'd 2016-05-01T06:31:55 < PeterM> fukken loll 2016-05-01T06:32:23 < dongs> oh, its spinning? ok, lets make it spin even faster 2016-05-01T06:34:26 < dongs> i wonder if they have pics of it 2016-05-01T06:34:28 < dongs> with panels broken off 2016-05-01T06:34:41 < dongs> does spacex do space rescue missions yet 2016-05-01T06:34:46 < dongs> to fish out broken junk and bring it back for repair 2016-05-01T06:35:10 < dongs> mass: 2.7 tonnes what 2016-05-01T06:35:16 < dongs> how the fuck did they get that shit in orbit? 2016-05-01T06:35:48 < dongs> arent most sats like hudnreds kg max 2016-05-01T06:37:27 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/dEF4oKP.jpg electronics project for ohsix 2016-05-01T06:41:38 < jadew> hah 2016-05-01T06:43:42 < jadew> ohsix, sounds like it 2016-05-01T06:46:31 < jadew> if you want to cringe watch that sci-fi movie made by MTV 2016-05-01T06:46:38 < jadew> with the guys who find a time machine 2016-05-01T06:46:53 < jadew> project almanac 2016-05-01T06:47:06 < jadew> I couldn't make it past minute 7 2016-05-01T06:49:14 < dongs> ther'es not many movies i couldnt make it past minute 7 2016-05-01T06:49:27 < dongs> most of them were by cretin tarrantino tho 2016-05-01T06:50:01 < jadew> I liked hot tub 2016-05-01T06:50:21 < jadew> the promise of naked girls was in the air 2016-05-01T06:50:31 < dongs> pump ficton was the worst one 2016-05-01T06:50:42 < jadew> pulp fiction is a time travel movie? 2016-05-01T06:50:48 < dongs> no idea 2016-05-01T06:50:49 < jadew> I never saw it 2016-05-01T06:50:56 < dongs> didnt get past first 2 minutes 2016-05-01T06:50:59 < dongs> was unfunny as fuck 2016-05-01T06:51:21 < jadew> I saw basic instinct a couple of times 2016-05-01T06:51:27 < jadew> the part where she crosses her legs 2016-05-01T06:52:09 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-01T06:52:18 < dongs> https://www.instagram.com/p/BE2RRHMhBkU/ lol'd 2016-05-01T06:52:22 < jadew> anyway, the HD version is out there, you should see it 2016-05-01T06:52:54 < PeterM> 10/10 2016-05-01T06:53:02 < jadew> wth was that guy doing there? 2016-05-01T06:53:12 < dongs> there's a video description 2016-05-01T06:53:14 < dongs> you can try reading it 2016-05-01T06:53:33 < jadew> dongs, where? 2016-05-01T06:53:39 < dongs> wingedstoreReally nasty crash. Motorcycle stalled in the middle of the course. 4 riders to the hospital, hopefully everyone is ok. 2016-05-01T06:54:07 < jadew> that looked like a comment 2016-05-01T06:54:12 < jadew> I didn't know that's the descriptiong 2016-05-01T06:54:18 * jadew doesn't do instagram 2016-05-01T06:54:19 < dongs> well, its written by the vodeo poster 2016-05-01T06:54:26 < dongs> me neither 2016-05-01T06:54:28 < dongs> just a guess 2016-05-01T06:58:10 -!- realityslave1 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awrqpkhprrisolvb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-01T07:02:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T07:05:39 < upgrdman> how do i "ping" a url (i dont care what the contents of the web page are) in lunix? do i have to use someshit like lynx? 2016-05-01T07:05:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T07:06:12 < jadew> you can't ping a URL 2016-05-01T07:06:17 < upgrdman> i know 2016-05-01T07:06:28 < jadew> so whatever you're reading probably means something else 2016-05-01T07:06:31 < jadew> like accessing it 2016-05-01T07:06:32 < upgrdman> but like, i want to generate the http request, and i dont care to see the response 2016-05-01T07:06:54 < brianx> you can use wget or curl to do a head request. 2016-05-01T07:06:56 < jadew> use curl or something 2016-05-01T07:07:07 < upgrdman> like a visit to jadew.com/gay.php?faggot=true will cause something to happen 2016-05-01T07:07:07 < jadew> well, head might be treated differently 2016-05-01T07:07:19 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-01T07:07:23 < jadew> it may be implemented properly for static resources, but you can't rely on it for dynamic content 2016-05-01T07:12:54 < jadew> again, head might not work as expected 2016-05-01T07:13:10 < jadew> it may return different results, it may not trigger the same thing 2016-05-01T07:13:37 < jadew> yes, but the script can chose to handle the request differently based on the verb 2016-05-01T07:13:43 < jadew> so if the verb is GET it may do something 2016-05-01T07:13:50 < jadew> if the verb is HEAD it may do nothing 2016-05-01T07:14:33 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T07:18:54 < ReadError> c4tv is UK 2016-05-01T07:18:57 < ReadError> Laurenceb explain 2016-05-01T07:19:39 < jadew> Some.Girls.Can.Code.S01E01.HDTV.x264-C4TV 2016-05-01T07:19:42 < jadew> fixed it for you 2016-05-01T07:20:20 < jadew> pretty sure they're hard to come by 2016-05-01T07:20:32 < ReadError> its prolly some chick making LED clothing with adafruit arduinos 2016-05-01T07:21:15 < jadew> what is zoz? 2016-05-01T07:21:55 < ReadError> he has some doctorates, no? 2016-05-01T07:22:26 < ReadError> ohsix have you seen his defcon talks? 2016-05-01T07:22:38 < ReadError> about the stolen laptop etc 2016-05-01T07:25:25 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4oB28ksiIo 2016-05-01T07:25:54 < ReadError> pretty funny 2016-05-01T07:29:02 < ReadError> ive seen it from the dvd rip 2016-05-01T07:29:09 < ReadError> just searched for it 2016-05-01T07:29:35 < ReadError> or the rip you can get from defcon 2016-05-01T07:29:43 < ReadError> you know they have a site with the originals 2016-05-01T07:29:47 < ReadError> of all the youtube shit 2016-05-01T07:30:01 < ReadError> yea that 2016-05-01T07:30:35 < ReadError> oh, yea they do dvd sales every year 2016-05-01T07:30:44 < ReadError> you can buy the eps or dl them 2016-05-01T07:30:52 < ReadError> maybe they money goes to the EFF i duno 2016-05-01T07:32:42 < PeterM> they upload a shitload officially to youtube too 2016-05-01T07:33:11 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/user/DEFCONConference/about 2016-05-01T07:33:26 < ReadError> PeterM ya 2016-05-01T07:33:33 < ReadError> thunderstrike 2? 2016-05-01T07:33:38 < ReadError> the thunderbolt attack? 2016-05-01T07:36:36 < ReadError> uhh what the tl;dr 2016-05-01T07:38:37 < ReadError> joe grand has a cool talk about PCB reverse engineering 2016-05-01T07:39:14 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8FQZIPkgZM 2016-05-01T07:39:20 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AB3NcCkGNQ probably my favourite talk 2016-05-01T07:39:30 < ReadError> cool watch 2016-05-01T07:40:02 < PeterM> its a not super serious talk 2016-05-01T07:40:21 < ReadError> the UK guys that decapped chips was cool 2016-05-01T07:40:37 < jadew> ohsix, so what's the deal with that twitter thing? 2016-05-01T07:40:47 < jadew> is that chick going to be in a game _I_ can buy? 2016-05-01T07:41:09 < jadew> where can I see more photos? 2016-05-01T07:42:54 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T08:03:44 < upgrdman> dongs, ohsix http://i.imgur.com/FTxBlpF.gifv 2016-05-01T08:07:38 < upgrdman> :) 2016-05-01T08:07:44 < upgrdman> fuck if i know 2016-05-01T08:07:51 < upgrdman> it was from r/holdmybeaker 2016-05-01T08:08:48 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ulwzahkltohrybql] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-01T08:10:31 < PeterM> whatdidyouexpectwasgoingtohappen.gif 2016-05-01T08:38:49 < upgrdman> wtf 2016-05-01T08:39:02 < upgrdman> how can i remove the first partition on an sd card in win10 2016-05-01T08:39:14 < upgrdman> disk management grays that out 2016-05-01T08:39:21 < upgrdman> write protect is not on 2016-05-01T08:39:56 < PeterM> diskpart? 2016-05-01T08:40:36 < upgrdman> why the fuck cant windows do something so basic :/ 2016-05-01T08:40:51 < PeterM> diskpart is a command-line disk partitioning utility included in Windows 2000 and later, replacing its predecessor, fdisk. 2016-05-01T08:44:46 < upgrdman> diskpart let me remove it 2016-05-01T08:44:57 < upgrdman> damn i miss lunix 2016-05-01T08:45:05 < upgrdman> why cant lunix catch up on display scaling quicker 2016-05-01T08:46:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T08:46:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 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https://youtu.be/eqDfGGQnToA?t=237 2016-05-01T10:14:09 < dongs> < upgrdman> why cant lunix catch up on display scaling quicker 2016-05-01T10:14:19 < dongs> that requires supporting anything > 80x25 text console in teh first place, llloooll 2016-05-01T10:14:40 < dongs> you can't scale a lot with libcac 2016-05-01T10:14:43 < dongs> you can't scale a lot with libcaca 2016-05-01T10:22:11 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T10:25:32 < dongs> totally dongs 2016-05-01T10:27:05 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nNNjpMbQIA 2016-05-01T10:32:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-01T10:36:52 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T10:38:43 < dongs> http://spaceflight101.com/h-iia-astro-h/hitomi-failure-chain/ nice read 2016-05-01T10:50:08 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T10:52:14 -!- 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[~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T12:30:09 < upgrdman> trying to find a movie i saw like 20 years ago. it was a kids/family movie with a kid that flew in what looked liked a metal football-shaped spacecraft that let him time travel. i forget most of the plot :/ 2016-05-01T12:30:41 < upgrdman> iirc he visited him family at different periods of time, but i might be wrong 2016-05-01T12:33:11 < ReadError> hmmm 2016-05-01T12:33:15 < ReadError> was it orange or red 2016-05-01T12:33:23 < ReadError> and looked like a piece of playground equipment 2016-05-01T12:34:23 < ReadError> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091059/ 2016-05-01T12:34:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.85.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-01T12:34:29 < ReadError> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089114/ 2016-05-01T12:34:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.85.200] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T12:34:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:1d3c:2f21:e29a:8457] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T12:36:35 < upgrdman> fuck yes! flight of the aviators 2016-05-01T12:36:38 < upgrdman> -s 2016-05-01T12:36:48 < upgrdman> i've been trying to find that for years 2016-05-01T12:37:09 < upgrdman> i dont think it was even a terribly good movie, but it keep popping into my head every now and then 2016-05-01T12:37:17 < upgrdman> thanks 2016-05-01T12:37:26 < upgrdman> err Flight of the Navigator 2016-05-01T12:37:29 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-01T12:37:41 < ReadError> lol 2016-05-01T12:37:54 < dongs> is ohsix autisming? 2016-05-01T12:38:26 < ReadError> should just unignore, ignore makes shit too confusing 2016-05-01T12:41:11 < dongs> id rather suject my self yto aids 2016-05-01T12:41:14 < dongs> speaking of aids 2016-05-01T12:41:24 < dongs> watched (more like skipped through) most of deadpoop at office 2016-05-01T12:41:33 < dongs> suc hshit movie omg 2016-05-01T12:41:43 < dongs> was it supposed to be funny? 2016-05-01T12:42:29 < dongs> if yes, to anyone over the age of 13? 2016-05-01T12:43:12 < ReadError> not seen it 2016-05-01T12:44:02 < dongs> youve missed nothign 2016-05-01T12:44:08 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd58w0CXQrM 2016-05-01T12:44:23 < ReadError> lol 3rd thing ever sent in a pneumatic tube -> a cat 2016-05-01T13:28:01 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/pS0GGcz7wN4 2016-05-01T13:28:04 < ReadError> pretty crazy shit 2016-05-01T13:28:16 < dongs> any IT pros know how win10 freeshit works, if I upgrade on a throwaway drive and then install clean will it work 2016-05-01T13:28:47 < dongs> vox sounds like new vice 2016-05-01T13:28:52 < dongs> another set of links ill never be clicking 2016-05-01T13:28:53 < ReadError> afaik you can do it on any win7/win8 box 2016-05-01T13:29:15 < ReadError> some people been installing win7 just to get a copy of win10 2016-05-01T13:31:51 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T13:36:06 < ReadError> if you think about it, dinosaurs 2016-05-01T13:36:08 < ReadError> fucking nuts 2016-05-01T13:37:24 -!- kuldeep__ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T13:40:25 < Steffanx> Yes it will work dongs. 2016-05-01T13:40:47 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-01T13:40:57 < Steffanx> Did upgrade on spinning rust, upgraded to SSD, did new install. 2016-05-01T13:41:15 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/ZRDIHcFRPFs 2016-05-01T13:41:19 < ReadError> pigeons, also nuts 2016-05-01T13:42:35 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you! 2016-05-01T13:42:45 < dongs> Steffanx: ok good. 2016-05-01T13:43:43 < dongs> since officepc has nothign of value ill just upgrade 8.1 -> wipe -> install 2016-05-01T13:44:07 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-05-01T13:45:03 < Steffanx> Cheap arse, just buy it :P 2016-05-01T13:45:36 < ReadError> ive activated this one key of win10 like 12 times lol 2016-05-01T13:45:47 < Steffanx> "cloner" ;) 2016-05-01T13:46:31 < Steffanx> Didn't you use this cameo machine to play around with home made stencils ReadError? You still do that? 2016-05-01T13:46:42 < ReadError> yessar 2016-05-01T13:46:50 < ReadError> works well 2016-05-01T13:47:02 < upgrdman_> lol http://i.imgur.com/ZEGo5kx.png 2016-05-01T13:47:03 < Steffanx> Have blogs? 2016-05-01T13:47:17 < ReadError> Steffanx like some sample pics? 2016-05-01T13:47:26 < Steffanx> Yes 2016-05-01T13:47:35 < Steffanx> Also what machine you use for it? Cameo what? 2016-05-01T13:47:56 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/PNP/n-JZsNDb/i-27j92br/0/O/i-27j92br.jpg 2016-05-01T13:48:03 < ReadError> silhouette cameo 2 2016-05-01T13:48:09 < ReadError> silhouette is the brand 2016-05-01T13:48:13 < ReadError> cameo is the model 2016-05-01T13:50:14 < Steffanx> hmm 2016-05-01T13:50:28 < ReadError> but it makes plenty acceptable stencils 2016-05-01T13:50:38 < ReadError> i mean if you are doing a bunch of stuff, grab a metal one from china 2016-05-01T13:52:04 -!- Martin90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T13:52:24 < Martin90> "Input states: floating, pull-up/down, analog" what they consider as "analog" state ? 2016-05-01T13:52:32 < ReadError> ADC 2016-05-01T13:52:42 < ReadError> ? 2016-05-01T13:52:43 < Steffanx> I do not plan to do that, ReadError. 2016-05-01T13:54:48 < ReadError> Steffanx it sure beats waiting 2016-05-01T13:54:54 < ReadError> you do need a little extra piece of software 2016-05-01T13:55:11 < ReadError> specifically made to turn gerbers into graphtec files 2016-05-01T13:55:19 < ReadError> but it works fine 2016-05-01T13:55:30 < Steffanx> paid software or.. open sores? 2016-05-01T13:55:32 < BrainDamage> is that a laser currter or a mill? 2016-05-01T13:55:34 < ReadError> open 2016-05-01T13:55:41 < BrainDamage> cutter* 2016-05-01T13:55:45 < Steffanx> cutter. 2016-05-01T13:55:49 < jpa-> knife cutter 2016-05-01T13:55:49 < ReadError> https://github.com/pmonta/gerber2graphtec 2016-05-01T13:55:50 < Steffanx> non-laser 2016-05-01T13:56:06 < ReadError> it basically has to do with how it sets up the knife 2016-05-01T13:56:11 < ReadError> and how it cuts 2016-05-01T13:56:38 < ReadError> like the direction of the blade is set off to the side, it makes a small cut to set the blade in 1 direction 2016-05-01T13:56:45 < ReadError> then goes through and does all the cuts that go that way 2016-05-01T13:59:03 < Steffanx> i have no real plans anyway, was just looking into some stuff 2016-05-01T13:59:28 < ReadError> tried on my laser, it was a big bucket of fail though 2016-05-01T14:01:32 < Steffanx> hello mr crt 2016-05-01T14:04:59 < Steffanx> anyway, ty mr ReadError 2016-05-01T14:05:03 < ReadError> np 2016-05-01T14:15:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:1d3c:2f21:e29a:8457] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T14:15:51 < Steffanx> Love ebay: $30 for something with $80 shipping costs. 2016-05-01T14:20:09 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T14:22:50 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-01T14:23:15 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T14:38:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-01T14:47:48 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/Hnqm782 2016-05-01T14:48:46 < Steffanx> uhm 2016-05-01T14:49:04 < jpa-> any volunteers for component 8? 2016-05-01T14:49:49 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-01T14:49:52 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIpkdusnIkE 2016-05-01T14:50:17 < Steffanx> Murica. 2016-05-01T14:50:41 < Steffanx> cdonalds 2016-05-01T14:52:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T14:53:07 < Steffanx> Sounds like a nice experiment crt. 2016-05-01T14:53:31 < Steffanx> I'll pay your food, all you have to do is not leave your man cave. 2016-05-01T14:54:15 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-01T14:54:26 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T14:56:02 < Steffanx> How thick is that (kapton) sheet ReadError? 2016-05-01T14:56:16 < PeterM> hopefully 10-10mil 2016-05-01T14:56:21 < PeterM> *10-15mil 2016-05-01T14:56:21 < ReadError> 4mil ? 2016-05-01T14:56:23 < ReadError> i think 2016-05-01T14:57:31 < PeterM> erp 0.15mm- 0.1mm 2016-05-01T14:57:39 < PeterM> fuckin metric and imperial 2016-05-01T14:58:05 < Steffanx> hah. 2016-05-01T14:58:05 < ReadError> I guess most folks use 3-5mil 2016-05-01T14:58:53 < Steffanx> that's not a dug is it? 2016-05-01T14:58:55 < Steffanx> *duck 2016-05-01T14:59:13 < PeterM> wut is this 2016-05-01T14:59:17 < Steffanx> oh aussie ducks. 2016-05-01T14:59:25 < Steffanx> i guess aussie ducks are just like the spiders.. huge 2016-05-01T15:00:10 < Steffanx> It looks more like something i would call a Goose 2016-05-01T15:00:26 < PeterM> ReadError, yeah SS stencils are usually 0.1-0.15mm depending on your average aperture size, thinner for smaller apertures because paste is thicker near the edge of the aperture 2016-05-01T15:01:09 < Steffanx> Are you going to eat them or just their eggs? 2016-05-01T15:01:18 < Steffanx> Or for the free hugs 2016-05-01T15:01:50 < Steffanx> Yaeh sure. 2016-05-01T15:02:13 < PeterM> duck eggs are usually bigger than chook eggs 2016-05-01T15:02:21 < PeterM> bug duckshit smells worse than chookshit 2016-05-01T15:04:42 -!- Martin90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-01T15:13:58 < Steffanx> Poor crt. 2016-05-01T15:17:41 < Steffanx> Scart. Is that still used? 2016-05-01T15:22:17 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T15:34:49 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T15:37:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.133] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T15:52:48 < jadew> a chicken or a duck as a pet? 2016-05-01T15:53:51 < jadew> crt, I had a chicken, it was very nice 2016-05-01T15:55:16 < jadew> up until one day when I came back from school, sat at the table with the family and while eating chicken soup I realized it was gone 2016-05-01T15:55:29 < jadew> I asked "Where Piu" and they started laughing 2016-05-01T15:55:33 < jadew> *where's 2016-05-01T15:56:11 < PaulFertser> Did that turn you into a vegeterian? 2016-05-01T15:56:15 < dongs> sup stoners 2016-05-01T15:56:21 < PeterM> nm 2016-05-01T15:56:24 < jadew> no 2016-05-01T15:56:26 < PeterM> jsut reading dumb comics 2016-05-01T15:56:26 < dongs> thinking wat to do 2016-05-01T15:56:31 < PeterM> you 2016-05-01T15:56:31 < jadew> but it was very sad 2016-05-01T15:57:17 < PeterM> but was it tasty? 2016-05-01T15:58:03 < dongs> packing shit so i dont have to do iot tomrorow 2016-05-01T15:58:13 < dongs> gotta dicknplace most of hte day tomrorow so dont awnna deal wiht it 2016-05-01T15:58:48 < PeterM> god damnit why cant automated shit be more automated 2016-05-01T16:00:26 < dongs> ikr 2016-05-01T16:00:33 < ReadError> need those blisterpacks like that fancy machine uses 2016-05-01T16:00:47 < ReadError> ehh load up 1.5million resistors at a time 2016-05-01T16:00:55 < ReadError> it will sort them out 2016-05-01T16:02:44 < dongs> wut 2016-05-01T16:05:11 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T16:05:44 < zyp> yeah, that siplace shit 2016-05-01T16:05:47 < ReadError> ^ 2016-05-01T16:05:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-55b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-01T16:05:50 < ReadError> so awesome 2016-05-01T16:06:51 < Peter_M> jesus fuck thatthing was nuts 2016-05-01T16:07:17 < ReadError> yea the head alone was sick 2016-05-01T16:07:25 < ReadError> then the feeding stuff was just icing 2016-05-01T16:08:27 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T16:08:27 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-01T16:08:37 < PeterM> bit of a cunt no 0603 tho 2016-05-01T16:09:10 < dongs> wut? 2016-05-01T16:09:13 < dongs> link to whatever 2016-05-01T16:09:20 < upgrdman_> nice mugshot http://kentucky.arrests.org/Arrests/Misty_Loman_24531562/ 2016-05-01T16:09:54 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVHuR0brpuI 2016-05-01T16:10:44 < dongs> in bulk... 2016-05-01T16:11:08 < dongs> lmaooo 2016-05-01T16:11:08 < PeterM> upgrdman_, looks like she'd suck a gulfball through a garden hose for he next hit. 2016-05-01T16:11:09 < dongs> but 2016-05-01T16:11:15 < dongs> what about upiside down parts??? 2016-05-01T16:11:24 < upgrdman_> PeterM, lol 2016-05-01T16:11:31 < PeterM> just vibrate them mroe 2016-05-01T16:11:35 < PeterM> they'll flip 2016-05-01T16:12:01 < zyp> dongs, eh, it's not like small passives have an up and down 2016-05-01T16:12:14 < dongs> zyp, resistors do 2016-05-01T16:12:18 < dongs> they look gay as fuck upside down 2016-05-01T16:12:21 < zyp> not 0402? 2016-05-01T16:12:23 < dongs> sometimes my garbage flips them and it rages me 2016-05-01T16:12:25 < dongs> yes tehy do 2016-05-01T16:12:27 < dongs> black/whtie 2016-05-01T16:12:37 < zyp> oh, right 2016-05-01T16:12:50 < zyp> been ages since I assembled 0402 2016-05-01T16:13:13 < dongs> waht do you do these days? 2016-05-01T16:13:18 < dongs> 01005? 2016-05-01T16:13:23 < zyp> 0603 2016-05-01T16:13:38 < zyp> well, I mean, I don't assemble much at all nowadays, I get you to do it for me 2016-05-01T16:13:58 < ReadError> still though, thats pretty awesome tech 2016-05-01T16:13:58 < dongs> o rite 2016-05-01T16:14:04 < dongs> 0603 is even worse, it's market 2016-05-01T16:14:05 < dongs> er marked 2016-05-01T16:14:13 < ReadError> it would revolutionize the home PNP machine 2016-05-01T16:14:46 < zyp> dongs, well, it's not like you'd use only that kind of feeders 2016-05-01T16:14:59 < dongs> > home pnp machine 2016-05-01T16:15:01 < dongs> you fucking stoner 2016-05-01T16:15:05 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-05-01T16:15:06 < dongs> home pnp machine takes like 30 seconds 2016-05-01T16:15:09 < dongs> to go from pickup point 2016-05-01T16:15:12 < dongs> to drop point 2016-05-01T16:15:21 < dongs> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 2016-05-01T16:15:25 < dongs> fucking opensores TRASH 2016-05-01T16:15:26 < zyp> dongs, useful for shit like 100n caps 2016-05-01T16:15:40 < zyp> since you put a ton of them everywhere 2016-05-01T16:15:43 < ReadError> dongs theres no reason they HAVE to be slow 2016-05-01T16:15:57 < ReadError> or shitty 2016-05-01T16:16:02 < dongs> rEaLLY nOW 2016-05-01T16:16:03 < dongs> then why are they all 2016-05-01T16:16:06 < dongs> slow and shitty 2016-05-01T16:16:07 < dongs> EXPLAIN 2016-05-01T16:16:12 < ReadError> because people use steppers 2016-05-01T16:16:16 < ReadError> and openloop systems 2016-05-01T16:16:18 < dongs> as opposed to 2016-05-01T16:16:21 < ReadError> and machine mass is low 2016-05-01T16:16:33 < ReadError> so it can fly around super quick w/o mad vibes 2016-05-01T16:16:42 < dongs> wat 2016-05-01T16:16:56 < dongs> have you seen heads/etc in proper dicknpalce machiens 2016-05-01T16:16:58 < dongs> they're not light 2016-05-01T16:17:16 < ReadError> right, but the base of the machines are heavy in commercial operations 2016-05-01T16:17:19 < ReadError> or fixed 2016-05-01T16:17:22 < dongs> yes and? 2016-05-01T16:17:43 < ReadError> yea, thats one of the differences between the opensource/home machines and commercial 2016-05-01T16:17:51 < ReadError> so you cant run them as fast 2016-05-01T16:19:26 < dongs> StonError more like 2016-05-01T16:19:31 < ReadError> things are coming along pretty nicely too in the 'openworld' 2016-05-01T16:19:38 < ReadError> bottom vision is finally working 2016-05-01T16:20:27 < dongs> also i duno about that siplace shit usefulness 2016-05-01T16:20:33 < dongs> there are 0402 feeders with autoload for new reels 2016-05-01T16:20:42 < dongs> its only liek 30 seconds to swap the shit out 2016-05-01T16:20:50 < dongs> if not faster 2016-05-01T16:21:05 < dongs> i can see that it works but 2016-05-01T16:21:12 < dongs> who the fuck unreels the parts? 2016-05-01T16:21:16 < PeterM> or it could take <1s to put a bit of the bulk reel into the bulk feeder 2016-05-01T16:21:22 < Sync> nobody dongs 2016-05-01T16:21:28 < ReadError> they come from mfg 2016-05-01T16:21:28 < Sync> you buy that shit in the blisers 2016-05-01T16:21:28 < zyp> you don't unreel the parts, you buy parts that's not on reels in the first place 2016-05-01T16:21:29 < ReadError> like that 2016-05-01T16:21:29 < Sync> +t 2016-05-01T16:21:31 < dongs> k 2016-05-01T16:21:42 < dongs> dicknplacing dust 2016-05-01T16:21:58 < ReadError> hm? 2016-05-01T16:22:06 < ReadError> they have the little window that opens 2016-05-01T16:22:38 < Sync> yeah I wonder why that opens so slow 2016-05-01T16:22:46 < Sync> slows the whole thing down 2016-05-01T16:23:01 < ReadError> i think it closes to do vision 2016-05-01T16:23:11 < PeterM> it probably is open all the time it isnt vibrating 2016-05-01T16:23:21 < ReadError> so it has a backdrop 2016-05-01T16:23:26 < PeterM> but they close it on vid jsut to show it 2016-05-01T16:25:09 < dongs> im guessing its slow not to bump the parts 2016-05-01T16:25:11 < dongs> after vision got htem 2016-05-01T16:25:26 < upgrdman_> jesus fuck. why is adobe premiere elements struggling to display or render a video composed of x264 screencaps. shits rendering at like 12fps. 2016-05-01T16:25:27 < ReadError> i would really like a nice pasteplacer 2016-05-01T16:25:35 < ReadError> not a stencil 2016-05-01T16:25:50 < ReadError> one of those fancy piezo paste shooters 2016-05-01T16:25:51 < Sync> buy a my500 2016-05-01T16:26:30 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYFidZp_Tk omg 2016-05-01T16:26:33 < ReadError> so cool 2016-05-01T16:26:56 < Sync> I wonder what the base is made from 2016-05-01T16:27:03 < Sync> I suspect polymer concrete 2016-05-01T16:28:26 < dongs> lollll 2016-05-01T16:28:27 < dongs> what the fuck 2016-05-01T16:28:34 < dongs> where are hte parts coming from? 2016-05-01T16:28:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:25a7:e995:cdb1:9606] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T16:28:39 < PeterM> holy fuck that looks slow 2016-05-01T16:29:20 < Sync> dongs: no parts 2016-05-01T16:29:21 < Sync> paste 2016-05-01T16:29:24 < dongs> oh 2016-05-01T16:29:43 < dongs> 500 skott per sekund 2016-05-01T16:29:47 < Sync> it has a piezo driven paste ejaculator 2016-05-01T16:29:53 < dongs> 500 great scotts per second 2016-05-01T16:29:54 < ReadError> skeet skeet 2016-05-01T16:30:27 < ReadError> but that shit is way cooler than stencil printers 2016-05-01T16:30:55 < upgrdman_> can it only place dots of paste, or can it jizz out rectangles etc 2016-05-01T16:31:49 < dongs> only dots i would iamgine 2016-05-01T16:32:02 < dongs> its very hard to control the stuff properly 2016-05-01T16:32:11 < dongs> it probly does rectangles by shitting out dots close together 2016-05-01T16:32:16 < upgrdman_> ya k 2016-05-01T16:32:20 < Sync> ye 2016-05-01T16:32:33 < PeterM> automated stencil printers are super fast compared to that, but i guess neat for.... something 2016-05-01T16:32:47 < Sync> http://www.smtnet.com/media/images/MYDATA-Feb-2012-MY500_2-1.jpg 2016-05-01T16:32:56 < Sync> http://www.smtnet.com/media/images/MYDATA-Jet-Printing_2.jpg 2016-05-01T16:33:37 < Sync> PeterM: the idea is low volume production, where the wasted paste in the printer is costly 2016-05-01T16:33:51 < dongs> er 2016-05-01T16:33:52 < dongs> sync 2016-05-01T16:33:59 < dongs> no paste is wasted in automatic printers.. 2016-05-01T16:34:03 < dongs> you just scopp it right back up 2016-05-01T16:34:11 < Sync> that depends on what you do 2016-05-01T16:34:11 < dongs> theres like practically zero waste 2016-05-01T16:34:13 < dongs> nope 2016-05-01T16:34:17 < Sync> it does 2016-05-01T16:34:21 < dongs> all teh shit I've seen and used theres almost no waste 2016-05-01T16:34:35 < Sync> do that with my products and you will fail process qualification 2016-05-01T16:34:38 < dongs> the stencil is framed, all teh paste is there, and there's a scoop that picks that shit right up and you can either re-spread it or stick it back into jar 2016-05-01T16:34:54 < dongs> what, is there some faggot eurotrash requirements about paste fresness>? 2016-05-01T16:35:37 < Sync> the paste manufacturers have a spec on that and as soon as it is in the printer and the run is finished it goes to the bin 2016-05-01T16:35:48 < Sync> and opened containers are good for ~3 days 2016-05-01T16:36:25 < upgrdman_> is the problem with solder ball falling out of solution or something? 2016-05-01T16:36:30 < dongs> yeah, my jars of paste generalyl do not last long enough to "expire" 2016-05-01T16:36:35 < dongs> but I do keep the shit sealed and in my cold storage room 2016-05-01T16:36:42 < Lux> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_9KgAQ4ZdU that shows nicely how that paste printer works 2016-05-01T16:36:49 < dongs> upgrdman_: thats like extreme china garbage paste 2016-05-01T16:37:01 < dongs> i think i got some lodestar shit like 10 years ago 2016-05-01T16:37:14 < Sync> upgrdman_: the manufacturer cannot guarantee quality anymore after that 2016-05-01T16:37:14 < dongs> when it arrived, the shit was some gray dry shit on bottom and some liquid stuff sloshing on top 2016-05-01T16:37:18 -!- FatalNIX [~FatalNIX@unaffiliated/fatalnix] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-05-01T16:37:58 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-05-01T16:38:07 < Sync> dongs: it's just that some of the stuff is safety critical and the process does not allow for paste reuse 2016-05-01T16:39:10 < Sync> also it saves you time loading the stencils 2016-05-01T16:39:23 < Sync> which can be a factor if you do flexible manufacturing with lots of designs 2016-05-01T16:39:30 < dongs> nah just swap frame out 2016-05-01T16:39:31 < dongs> thats not hard 2016-05-01T16:39:39 < dongs> including cleaning takes a couple mins 2016-05-01T16:40:04 < Sync> yes, couple mins, if you can just shove the next panel it it adds up 2016-05-01T16:40:09 < dongs> yea heyah. 2016-05-01T16:40:23 < ReadError> no cleaning etc too 2016-05-01T16:40:38 < ReadError> oh ya you just said that 2016-05-01T16:40:48 < dongs> syringe paste is more expensive tho 2016-05-01T16:40:51 * ReadError gets back to vape 2016-05-01T16:41:07 < Sync> the mydata stuff is probably super assrape spendy 2016-05-01T16:41:12 < Sync> as it has to go through their auger 2016-05-01T16:41:27 < ReadError> oh they are not using the piezo stuff? 2016-05-01T16:41:44 < ReadError> we need the chinese to clone one of those dispensers ;( 2016-05-01T16:42:17 < Sync> they use a piezo 2016-05-01T16:42:56 < Sync> but they have an auger to get the paste into the nozzle 2016-05-01T16:43:11 < dongs> the only way to get it properly rationed 2016-05-01T16:43:16 < ReadError> ahh okay 2016-05-01T16:43:17 < dongs> pressure dosesnt work precise enough 2016-05-01T16:43:41 < dongs> so why cant opensores drive xy table at those speeds? 2016-05-01T16:43:51 < dongs> like smoothiefaggot or something similar 2016-05-01T16:45:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T16:52:01 < Sync> dongs: because smoothiefaggot cannot output enough steps/s 2016-05-01T16:52:09 < Sync> the overall speed isn't really the problem 2016-05-01T16:53:21 < dongs> what can? 2016-05-01T16:53:37 < ReadError> fpga 2016-05-01T16:53:43 < dongs> fuck off 2016-05-01T16:54:12 < Sync> it is the truth, if you use step dir you have super shitty bandwidth utilization 2016-05-01T16:54:25 < Sync> if they'd use quadrature, they would instantly get 4x the steprate 2016-05-01T16:54:42 < Sync> but then you gotta generate quadrature 2016-05-01T16:56:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T16:56:59 < ReadError> I think they are using an FPGA in the new smoothie 2016-05-01T16:57:24 < Sync> yeah but you still end up with steppers 2016-05-01T16:57:36 < dongs> so whats next after steppers? 2016-05-01T16:57:39 < dongs> to go FAST 2016-05-01T16:57:41 < ReadError> servos 2016-05-01T16:57:45 < ReadError> BLDC 2016-05-01T16:58:32 < Sync> doesn't have to be bldc, but yeah servos 2016-05-01T16:58:52 < ReadError> yea guess a lot of stuff is AC 2016-05-01T16:59:03 < dongs> what makes a servo special 2016-05-01T16:59:33 < Lux> closed loop control 2016-05-01T16:59:43 < ReadError> lighter rotors 2016-05-01T17:00:01 < ReadError> more torque 2016-05-01T17:00:07 < ReadError> not worrying about losing steps 2016-05-01T17:00:11 < Sync> actually, that is not always true 2016-05-01T17:00:22 < Sync> there is a benefit of using steppers for torque 2016-05-01T17:00:28 < Sync> and then using field weakening to get speed 2016-05-01T17:00:41 < upgrdman_> steppers loose torque at speed iirc, while normal motors have lots of torque at speed 2016-05-01T17:01:03 < Sync> up until the nominal frequency 2016-05-01T17:01:09 < Sync> after that you are using field weakening 2016-05-01T17:01:14 < Sync> and thus you loose torque 2016-05-01T17:01:19 < upgrdman_> k 2016-05-01T17:17:07 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdbqfuwtmwdkuyeo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:18:57 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-01T17:20:41 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/m3g3r03.png 2016-05-01T17:20:44 < dongs> fkin indians 2016-05-01T17:21:47 < Steffann_> Hah pro customer service 2016-05-01T17:22:14 < dongs> almost as pro as this address 2016-05-01T17:22:14 < dongs> Plot #25/B, 2016-05-01T17:22:14 < dongs> Doddanakundi Industrial Estate, Off Whitefield Road, 2016-05-01T17:22:14 < dongs> Behind Graphite India, Bengaluru, Karnataka, 560048 2016-05-01T17:22:34 < dongs> turn left at the next sign 2016-05-01T17:22:35 < Steffann_> I never left, this is a 2nd Steffan mr crt 2016-05-01T17:22:42 < dongs> sounds like mobilefgt 2016-05-01T17:23:30 < dongs> nice shake 2016-05-01T17:30:33 < ReadError> this is kinda neat, nunchuck has a little board w/ a transceiver that basically does wireless i2c 2016-05-01T17:30:43 < ReadError> would be cool if they sold em standalone 2016-05-01T17:31:15 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:32:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:35:09 < ReadError> readerror67@enterprise ~/files $ du -sh Streamlined\ Mythbusters\ Complete/ 2016-05-01T17:35:09 < ReadError> 192G Streamlined Mythbusters Complete/ 2016-05-01T17:37:59 < dongs> doesnt sound funny 2016-05-01T17:39:06 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S786bjS9mnQ 2016-05-01T17:39:22 < Laurenceb_> stereotypical emdriver 2016-05-01T17:39:24 < dongs> tl;dw 2016-05-01T17:39:31 < dongs> Laurenceb_: i heard you were involved with IMU on astro-h 2016-05-01T17:39:43 < dongs> it failed just like most of your imu-related projects 2016-05-01T17:39:47 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-05-01T17:39:56 < Laurenceb_> yeah they made NaN real 2016-05-01T17:40:11 < Laurenceb_> physical realisation of NaN 2016-05-01T17:43:10 < Laurenceb_> http://i.sli.mg/griXxg.gif 2016-05-01T17:44:07 < dongs> old as fuck 2016-05-01T17:48:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:50:11 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:52:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T17:53:13 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:54:42 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T17:58:48 < Rob235> yummy dab 2016-05-01T18:06:47 < ReadError> im vapist'ing 2016-05-01T18:07:08 < dongs> do those soap bubbles vape shits 2016-05-01T18:07:10 < dongs> without ugly chick 2016-05-01T18:07:34 < ReadError> lol cant blow clouds like that with herb vape 2016-05-01T18:07:41 < ReadError> i wish though 2016-05-01T18:08:13 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: your future wife 2016-05-01T18:08:41 < Rob235> I have a vapir rise 2.0 ultimate but havent used it in a while 2016-05-01T18:09:16 < ReadError> http://jstalin.neocities.org/ 2016-05-01T18:09:21 < ReadError> Laurenceb_'s first website 2016-05-01T18:09:44 < Rob235> just got this 2 chamber 2 percolator mini bong with quartz banger and an ash catcher with third percolator for flowers 2016-05-01T18:09:57 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Private/n-k3BGh/i-w9FFC43/0/X3/i-w9FFC43-X3.jpg 2016-05-01T18:10:02 < ReadError> thats my dabmachine 2016-05-01T18:10:31 < dongs> ICQ # 2016-05-01T18:11:09 < Rob235> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xvo44pr92oji5f/Percolate.mp4?dl=0 2016-05-01T18:11:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-01T18:11:37 < Steffanx> stoner Rob235? 2016-05-01T18:11:45 < dongs> too many actual stoners in channel detected. 2016-05-01T18:11:48 < Steffanx> and Rob235 -_- 2016-05-01T18:11:54 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-01T18:11:56 < kakimir> #stoners32 2016-05-01T18:12:13 < kakimir> #blazeit32 2016-05-01T18:12:23 < Steffanx> was? 2016-05-01T18:14:26 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wXqtlMj8/1458966146.JPG 2016-05-01T18:14:33 < ReadError> this stuff is strong as hell 2016-05-01T18:14:36 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKcl95STZmdlFWLTA/view?usp=sharing test rig started 2016-05-01T18:14:55 < dongs> looks like stoner rig to me 2016-05-01T18:15:01 < Rob235> ReadError: what is it? looks very thin 2016-05-01T18:15:06 < ReadError> tincture 2016-05-01T18:15:13 < Rob235> to eat? 2016-05-01T18:15:18 < ReadError> put under tongue 2016-05-01T18:15:25 < ReadError> few grams of oil in there 2016-05-01T18:15:28 < Rob235> whats it made of 2016-05-01T18:15:29 < ReadError> and everclear 2016-05-01T18:15:31 < Rob235> oh ok 2016-05-01T18:15:34 < ReadError> you decarb the oil 2016-05-01T18:15:59 < Rob235> I've made oil from the rosin tech and qwiso, gonna try butane probably this week 2016-05-01T18:16:27 < Rob235> but I don't have a vacuum chamber so I'm going to get rid of the butane with everclear 2016-05-01T18:17:09 < Rob235> so you just put that under your tongue? how long and how long does it take to kick in? 2016-05-01T18:17:12 < Rob235> and how long does it last 2016-05-01T18:17:25 < Rob235> I'm guessing under your tongue for a few min 2016-05-01T18:17:35 < ReadError> eh just keep it there until you get bored 2016-05-01T18:17:39 < ReadError> or need to swallow 2016-05-01T18:17:44 < ReadError> it last a while 2016-05-01T18:17:47 < ReadError> 6+hr 2016-05-01T18:19:48 < Rob235> how do you decarb your oil? what temp and for how long and what heat source 2016-05-01T18:20:17 < Rob235> If using rosin tech I probably wouldn't have to decarb at all 2016-05-01T18:20:28 < Rob235> it would already be done 2016-05-01T18:20:38 < upgrdman_> so on my routers main page it lists the lan mac, lan ip, and a "PIN code" ... wtf is the PIN code used for 2016-05-01T18:20:43 < upgrdman_> is that some WPS shit? 2016-05-01T18:21:08 < Rob235> I would think so 2016-05-01T18:21:16 < ReadError> Rob235 in a oven/toaster oven 2016-05-01T18:21:34 < Rob235> I usually decarb flower at 250 for 45 min 2016-05-01T18:21:49 < ReadError> I go like 230 2016-05-01T18:21:56 < ReadError> but for 2hrs or so 2016-05-01T18:22:13 < ReadError> i dont think there is a concrete answer so I just go longer 2016-05-01T18:22:29 < ReadError> but the buzz is so clean 2016-05-01T18:22:40 < ReadError> worth making some 2016-05-01T18:24:24 < upgrdman_> what kind of drugs are you stoners talking about 2016-05-01T18:24:54 < ReadError> herojunamphetamine 2016-05-01T18:25:05 < Rob235> I've been using the rosin tech (parchment paper, hair straightener, body weight) and with the bud left over which should be decarbed from the heat I grind it, mix with peanut butter, spread between a couple crackers and heat at 300 for 30 min. You get a couple dabs worth and a nice firecracker 2016-05-01T18:25:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-01T18:25:36 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-05-01T18:25:42 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-01T18:25:46 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T18:25:52 < ReadError> we did firecrackers all the time in highschool 2016-05-01T18:26:02 < ReadError> almost every day 2016-05-01T18:26:09 < Rob235> I just learned about them like a year ago 2016-05-01T18:26:10 < ReadError> so easy to make and carry 2016-05-01T18:32:56 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T18:33:02 < Laurenceb_> I did mustard gas once 2016-05-01T18:33:19 < Rob235> alright I guess I should get back to work, I want to start completing some of these libraries so I can get down to the pid controller 2016-05-01T18:38:03 < lorenzo> "once" 2016-05-01T18:39:08 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T18:43:00 < Laurenceb_> once is once enough 2016-05-01T18:48:34 < Rob235> is this too long for an irq handler? http://pastebin.com/4VxRubbR 2016-05-01T18:48:48 < Sync> "it depends" 2016-05-01T18:49:04 < Rob235> almost all of the time it just goes through a couple if blocks and sets two variables 2016-05-01T18:49:11 < Rob235> so I think it should be fine 2016-05-01T18:49:17 < ReadError> heh why did you name it x8r_ 2016-05-01T18:49:34 < Rob235> why not 2016-05-01T18:49:57 < ReadError> shitbus or sbus is the general term\ 2016-05-01T18:50:25 < Rob235> yea I guess, I just have all my libraries named for the part I'm using 2016-05-01T18:52:10 < Laurenceb_> just nest your interrupts 2016-05-01T18:52:13 < Laurenceb_> no problem 2016-05-01T18:52:25 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-01T18:52:28 < Rob235> what do you mean 2016-05-01T18:52:43 < Laurenceb_> use pre-emption priority settings 2016-05-01T18:53:07 < Rob235> oh yea, I have to mess around with those, it's on my list to do 2016-05-01T18:53:14 < Laurenceb_> your big isr handler runs at one priority, and short time critical stuff can nest inside 2016-05-01T18:55:11 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2016-05-01T18:55:20 < Laurenceb_> emdrive results have just been retracted 2016-05-01T18:55:39 < Laurenceb_> apparently it was thermal distortion, who would have thunk 2016-05-01T18:55:54 < Rob235> I don't know which results you are referring to but you are surprised by that? :) 2016-05-01T18:57:17 < Laurenceb_> no lol 2016-05-01T18:57:20 < Laurenceb_> emdrive is a scam 2016-05-01T18:59:23 < Rob235> I think this is the first thing I've really written in C aside from stuff for school... Would have liked to use C++ but coocox coide is buggy enough already 2016-05-01T19:00:40 < Rob235> damn caffeine pill making me pee every 5 minutes 2016-05-01T19:02:26 < Sync> cockcox is suck a pos 2016-05-01T19:02:38 < Rob235> yup 2016-05-01T19:02:45 < Laurenceb_> Rob235 is a druggie? 2016-05-01T19:03:00 < Rob235> I smoke 2016-05-01T19:03:10 < Laurenceb_> at New Jersey 2016-05-01T19:03:13 < Laurenceb_> say no more 2016-05-01T19:03:21 < Rob235> haha why does everyone hate on nj, damn media 2016-05-01T19:04:22 < Rob235> I'm not saying it's all nice but I like my area. The beach is a block away 2016-05-01T19:04:25 < Laurenceb_> well you kind of conform to the stereotype 2016-05-01T19:04:34 < Laurenceb_> damn caffeine pill making me pee every 5 minutes 2016-05-01T19:04:50 < Rob235> I stopped drinking coffee because it upsets my stomach 2016-05-01T19:07:05 < Sync> stop drinking it thick as oil 2016-05-01T19:07:18 < dongs> stoner advice 2016-05-01T19:08:04 < Rob235> I don't, I'm pretty sensitive to caffeine, I used to drink it pretty diluted 2016-05-01T19:08:34 < Sync> well, it is easy to build a pretty large caffeine tolerance 2016-05-01T19:08:51 < Rob235> yea, caffeine pills make that easy 2016-05-01T19:12:04 < Rob235> can tomorrow's mail come now, I want to set up this hard drive 2016-05-01T19:13:27 < Steffanx> you could've gotten out of your man cave 2016-05-01T19:13:53 < Rob235> local stores don't have anything good or at least not at good prices 2016-05-01T19:14:38 < Steffanx> Better buy some patience then 2016-05-01T19:15:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.85.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-01T19:15:51 < Rob235> :) I'm usually patient, just procrastinating and mumbling about things that pop in my head 2016-05-01T19:17:47 < Rob235> I gotta start commenting my code too 2016-05-01T19:34:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T19:40:33 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdbqfuwtmwdkuyeo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-01T19:42:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.30] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-01T19:55:27 -!- kuldeep__ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T19:59:47 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fctlvqcxlxvvzqir] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T20:00:52 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/c4Yr7Cn.png 2016-05-01T20:00:59 < ReadError> fuckin legit ass ePacket 2016-05-01T20:11:25 -!- kuldeep__ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T20:19:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T20:26:04 < Rob235> down to 9 from 12 things left to do to get flying 2016-05-01T20:32:08 -!- realityslave1 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlfxzdihorhksjll] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T20:32:54 -!- kuldeep__ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-01T20:36:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T20:41:13 < Steffanx> Are you the hydraulic press channel guy, kakimir? 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2016-05-01T21:26:04 < upgrdman> i think so 2016-05-01T21:27:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-01T21:32:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T21:34:26 -!- Martin90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T21:36:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:25a7:e995:cdb1:9606] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-01T21:37:35 -!- realityslave1 is now known as rs6467 2016-05-01T21:38:21 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5355D614.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-01T21:41:13 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5355D614.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T21:42:26 < Martin90> is there any forum of STM32 worth seeing ? 2016-05-01T21:43:27 < Rob235> Havent tried any, I usually ask in here a bunch of times until I figure it out myself :) 2016-05-01T21:45:21 < Martin90> heh ok ;P 2016-05-01T21:45:36 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T21:46:10 < Martin90> pitty there is not STM32 forum like avr-freaks for AVRs MCUs 2016-05-01T21:46:38 < Rob235> start one :) 2016-05-01T21:47:30 < Martin90> well I don't have enough experience in STM to help anybody 2016-05-01T21:47:41 < Martin90> so I rather seeking help xD 2016-05-01T21:49:52 < ReadError> nobody can achieve clive1 status 2016-05-01T21:50:58 < Laurenceb_> heh yeah there is clive1 2016-05-01T21:51:35 < ReadError> clive1 is a forum beast 2016-05-01T21:52:03 < ReadError> upgrdman atom is cool 2016-05-01T21:52:12 < ReadError> has some nice features and extensions/plugins 2016-05-01T21:52:48 < ReadError> https://atom.io/packages/git-time-machine 2016-05-01T21:52:51 < ReadError> oo thats neat 2016-05-01T21:58:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T22:01:59 < Martin90> who is clive1 ? 2016-05-01T22:02:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T22:02:48 < ReadError> hes a fuckin legend 2016-05-01T22:03:24 < Martin90> hmm I have never heard about him, ;) 2016-05-01T22:03:51 < ReadError> google anything stm32 related enough 2016-05-01T22:03:57 < ReadError> and you will seen a ton of him 2016-05-01T22:04:00 < fenugrec> he destroys on the ST forums online 2016-05-01T22:04:07 < Martin90> his full name ? 2016-05-01T22:04:25 < ReadError> clive1 2016-05-01T22:04:38 < Martin90> real name ? 2016-05-01T22:04:58 < fenugrec> I'm not even sure how he manages to be so patient and provide ridiculously thorough answers 2016-05-01T22:05:12 < ReadError> iduno his real name 2016-05-01T22:05:20 < ReadError> he did a podcast once 2016-05-01T22:05:24 < ReadError> i think its there.. 2016-05-01T22:05:31 < ReadError> but hes a st.com forum legend 2016-05-01T22:07:20 < Martin90> in general any embedded forum which you can recommend ? 2016-05-01T22:07:51 < ReadError> i just google 2016-05-01T22:07:56 < ReadError> and land where i land 2016-05-01T22:07:59 < ReadError> or ask here 2016-05-01T22:08:55 < Martin90> ;) 2016-05-01T22:14:08 < ReadError> dongs is really mean though 2016-05-01T22:17:39 < Ultrasauce_> and a true opponent of Freedom 2016-05-01T22:19:47 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T22:28:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T22:33:50 -!- saph0 [hoofman@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-05-01T22:35:33 < Steffanx> So is Atom any good for C dev nowadays ReadError? 2016-05-01T22:35:53 < Steffanx> Last time i tried it, it seemed to be mainly focused on webdev 2016-05-01T22:35:56 < ReadError> eh nah not used it for C 2016-05-01T22:36:01 < ReadError> mostly just pydongs 2016-05-01T22:37:09 < Steffanx> oh there seem to be quite a few usable plugins now 2016-05-01T22:38:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-01T22:39:55 < Steffanx> oh no. Atom comes with Timecop. 2016-05-01T22:42:37 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-175-187.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-01T23:10:18 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-244-202.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T23:11:17 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T23:15:00 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-01T23:15:03 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-202-237.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T23:15:58 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-01T23:23:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T23:27:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T23:28:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-01T23:29:12 < Rob235> what to do to adjust if output from pid and motor mixer is higher/lower than valid values 2016-05-01T23:29:14 < Rob235> I've seen someone subtract the difference of the highest motor and max value to get the highest to max value but what if a motor goes below the min, that was ignored in what I saw 2016-05-01T23:30:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-01T23:31:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-01T23:31:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-01T23:36:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-01T23:57:30 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f77088f.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Mon May 02 2016 2016-05-02T00:17:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T00:20:03 < Martin90> on what build stage is startup_stm32xxx.s used ? 2016-05-02T00:20:20 < Martin90> I can't find any usage of it 2016-05-02T00:21:09 -!- 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http://www.amazon.com/Cooper-Bussmann-AMG-150-Fuse/dp/B000PSPGMO/ 2016-05-02T00:26:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-02T00:27:15 < ReadError> ohsix anyways i figured there was some standard of voltage steps 2016-05-02T00:32:43 < Martin90> ohsix: it's stm32F4 startup code 2016-05-02T00:32:53 < Martin90> "startup_stm32f446xx.s" 2016-05-02T00:33:01 < Martin90> I can't see any usage of it 2016-05-02T00:33:07 < Martin90> STM provides that file 2016-05-02T00:33:15 < ReadError> pretty sure towards the end 2016-05-02T00:33:29 < Martin90> but at what point 2016-05-02T00:38:54 < Martin90> hmm the problem is I don't see any make role which includes that .s file ;/ 2016-05-02T00:43:15 < ReadError> just ran a make 2016-05-02T00:43:43 < ReadError> it was ran in the 1st 2 lines 2016-05-02T00:44:23 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/HFJI/vmware-2016-05-01-17-44-11.png 2016-05-02T00:44:31 < ReadError> just a generic startup 2016-05-02T00:44:48 < Ultrasauce_> nice domain bro 2016-05-02T00:45:08 < ReadError> its not mine 2016-05-02T00:45:15 < ReadError> came with my screencapture thing 2016-05-02T00:45:23 < ReadError> or was in the git repo 2016-05-02T00:45:58 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-02T00:47:05 < Martin90> ReadError: thanks for screenshot 2016-05-02T00:48:38 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/EHV0/vmware-2016-05-01-17-48-21.png 2016-05-02T00:48:52 < ReadError> thats the order of stuff 2016-05-02T00:51:35 < Martin90> yes but it looks like my code never uses it... anyway, this text "Incremental Build of ..." comes form makefile ? 2016-05-02T00:59:23 < Rob235> (float)((MOTOR_PULSE_MAX - MOTOR_PULSE_MIN) / (max - min)) do I need to cast anything else as float to get the value I want? 2016-05-02T00:59:27 < Rob235> I want the result of the division to be a float, not an integer converted to a float 2016-05-02T01:01:21 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T01:04:09 < Rob235> nvm 2016-05-02T01:14:58 -!- Martin90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-02T01:19:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T01:20:53 < Laurenceb_> http://i.sli.mg/Vj3r77.jpg 2016-05-02T01:22:33 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/BuIv4hi 2016-05-02T01:24:06 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-02T01:32:50 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-188-70.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T01:36:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.30] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-02T01:49:32 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f77088f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-02T02:03:13 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T02:07:02 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping 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pumpers 2016-05-02T03:09:02 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T03:09:47 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T03:14:55 < dongs> http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00UYNTUGI sup japan 2016-05-02T03:17:44 < Laurenceb_> japan makes NaN real 2016-05-02T03:18:13 -!- Shavik__ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T03:19:59 < Laurenceb_> it probably NaN'd at some point 2016-05-02T03:20:17 < Laurenceb_> at which point they made physically realised NaN 2016-05-02T03:21:21 < Laurenceb_> http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/97/9707d40cb3808ee0fa76f4d2ba7e22aa3156cf9ac1ed08b177f52e1452cfc48f.jpg 2016-05-02T03:21:27 < Laurenceb_> needs more solar panels 2016-05-02T03:21:42 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T03:36:53 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined 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the plague 2016-05-02T05:00:21 < Rob235_> not sure how I want to handle it 2016-05-02T05:00:26 < dongs> use lunix 2016-05-02T05:02:34 < Rob235_> where can I find a good pid example that uses at least gyro 2016-05-02T05:06:29 < Rob235_> google doesn't know what good means :) 2016-05-02T05:08:17 < Rob235_> its for a flight controller 2016-05-02T05:08:26 < Rob235_> hexacopter 2016-05-02T05:11:17 < Rob235_> yea, everyone seems to do it a bit different, I was going to use multiwii as an example and dongs said it's shit :/ 2016-05-02T05:12:25 < Rob235_> I know, I understand the concept, I just want to make sure I do it correctly 2016-05-02T05:12:59 < Rob235_> oh you said neat, somehow I saw that as easy 2016-05-02T05:14:22 < dongs> https://github.com/trollcop/bradwii/blob/master/src/bradwii.c did pretty clean pid 2016-05-02T05:14:25 < dongs> but its fixedpoint garbage 2016-05-02T05:14:33 < dongs> but at least less retarded than multiwii mess 2016-05-02T05:16:50 < dongs> i want to murder anyone who writes void func() 2016-05-02T05:17:03 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-02T05:18:23 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/02/what_cd_security_flaw/ attn ohsix, dont bother replying 2016-05-02T05:31:04 < Rob235_> dongs thanks for the pid, looks easy 2016-05-02T05:32:01 < Rob235_> hobbyking is going to be holding up my first flight instead of my coding :) 2016-05-02T05:32:32 < Rob235_> I'll finish the led animation library, that's almost done 2016-05-02T05:32:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:5840:b8c7:8a6f:a996] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T05:37:29 < Rob235_> yea 2016-05-02T05:42:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T05:45:35 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T05:47:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-02T05:47:27 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has 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intersting 2016-05-02T06:23:50 < dongs> fail 2016-05-02T06:25:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T06:30:22 < englishman> dongs are you going to buy the latest electric car the 2017 Chevy Bolt 2016-05-02T06:30:46 < dongs> wahts so good about it 2016-05-02T06:30:50 < englishman> i bet even you could draw a better looking car with crayon and construction paper 2016-05-02T06:31:28 < dongs> http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Vehicles/Cars/2017_Bolt_Reveal/model_overview/01_images/2016-chevrolet-bolt-electric-vehicle-battery-499x313-01.png 2016-05-02T06:31:32 < dongs> thats a lot of batteries 2016-05-02T06:31:35 < dongs> on the floor 2016-05-02T06:32:39 < dongs> doesnt look awful tbh 2016-05-02T06:32:50 < dongs> at least inside doesnt look like some lunix faggot taped a 24" LCD in center console 2016-05-02T06:33:54 < dongs> lol volt is a ripoff of prious 2016-05-02T06:33:56 < dongs> prius 2016-05-02T06:34:10 < englishman> its only a 10" tablet touchscreen 2016-05-02T06:34:23 < englishman> no volt is a little different 2016-05-02T06:34:29 < englishman> its electric with an optional generator 2016-05-02T06:34:32 < dongs> looks almost same style, just curvy 2016-05-02T06:34:36 < dongs> no i mean visually 2016-05-02T06:34:41 < englishman> ah yeah well all cars look the same 2016-05-02T06:36:06 < dongs> 320km on a charge? yeah right 2016-05-02T06:38:03 < dongs> so at 60kWh pack, 9h to charge, so it draws 30A@240V 2016-05-02T06:38:15 < dongs> in japan that would probably cost more than equivalent gas 2016-05-02T06:38:20 < englishman> heh 2016-05-02T06:38:47 < dongs> how much would it use to do once charge, 60kwh right? 2016-05-02T06:38:48 < dongs> well -ish 2016-05-02T06:38:50 < dongs> + losses 2016-05-02T06:38:58 < englishman> thats about $4.5? 2016-05-02T06:39:05 < englishman> sup o6 2016-05-02T06:39:05 < dongs> gonna find electric bill and see 2016-05-02T06:40:02 < englishman> il install that 25kW wind turbine someday 2016-05-02T06:40:21 < dongs> k so i paid 27200 for 943kwh 2016-05-02T06:40:27 < englishman> i met a dude who made a tiny dam and put a 1kW generator 2016-05-02T06:40:38 < englishman> so generates 24kWh every day 2016-05-02T06:40:44 < englishman> basically all the power he needs 2016-05-02T06:40:46 < englishman> pretty neat 2016-05-02T06:40:54 < dongs> so 60kwh is 1730 2016-05-02T06:40:57 < dongs> hm, less than gas 2016-05-02T06:41:15 < englishman> $20cdn 2016-05-02T06:41:15 < englishman> wow 2016-05-02T06:41:16 < dongs> but thats 100V line, 3phase is chaper 2016-05-02T06:41:27 < englishman> thats $20 to go 200mi dongs 2016-05-02T06:41:27 < dongs> .. supposedly 2016-05-02T06:41:35 < englishman> is it really more efficient? 2016-05-02T06:41:53 < englishman> 30mpg = 6.7gal 2016-05-02T06:42:02 < dongs> whats more efficient? 2016-05-02T06:42:08 < englishman> $3/gal = $20 2016-05-02T06:42:16 < dongs> i duno i pay for liter 2016-05-02T06:42:19 < englishman> i dono what gas costs in jpy 2016-05-02T06:42:20 < dongs> 119/liter around 2016-05-02T06:42:31 < dongs> my prius tank is 40L i think 2016-05-02T06:42:43 < dongs> and range on taht is around 800km 2016-05-02T06:43:12 < dongs> you know, its not cheaper heh by electric 2016-05-02T06:43:16 < dongs> like almost no point 2016-05-02T06:43:17 < englishman> right 2016-05-02T06:43:29 < englishman> it makes sense if you make your own electricity 2016-05-02T06:43:39 < englishman> or live in a place with cheap power, and or expensive gas 2016-05-02T06:43:48 < dongs> lets say 300km for 1730 2016-05-02T06:44:11 < dongs> heh 2016-05-02T06:44:13 < dongs> gas would be 1785 2016-05-02T06:44:16 < dongs> utterly uselesss. 2016-05-02T06:44:20 < englishman> yes 2016-05-02T06:44:29 < englishman> meanwhile china burns coal for power and heat 2016-05-02T06:44:33 < dongs> solution: need 60kWh wind farm 2016-05-02T06:44:36 < englishman> and usa burns coal for power and heat 2016-05-02T06:44:49 < dongs> then I can afford electric car 2016-05-02T06:45:00 < englishman> you can get a 25kW turbine dongs 2016-05-02T06:45:06 < englishman> its not too big or expensive 2016-05-02T06:45:11 < englishman> there are probably japs that will install 2016-05-02T06:45:20 < dongs> as long as I can paypal it expensive isnt realyl a problem 2016-05-02T06:45:32 < englishman> can generate 5-7MWh/yr 2016-05-02T06:45:34 < englishman> iirc 2016-05-02T06:45:44 < englishman> sure i found a china mfg that takes paypal 2016-05-02T06:45:49 < dongs> what does it do during typhoons 2016-05-02T06:45:56 < dongs> when you have like 200kmh wind 2016-05-02T06:46:25 < englishman> http://windgenerator.cn/eproducts/92.html 2016-05-02T06:46:25 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T06:46:30 < englishman> it feathers and spins slower 2016-05-02T06:46:37 < englishman> theres rated max speed before damage 2016-05-02T06:46:43 < englishman> like 50-60m/s 2016-05-02T06:47:29 < dongs> > yjmluck 2016-05-02T06:48:02 < dongs> 80pcs 12V200Ah 2016-05-02T06:48:05 < dongs> how many tons is that 2016-05-02T06:48:14 < englishman> batteries????? 2016-05-02T06:48:29 < englishman> the point of windturbine is you can sell back to grid 2016-05-02T06:48:32 < englishman> so you dont need batteries 2016-05-02T06:48:43 < dongs> ya im doin that trash now with solar 2016-05-02T06:48:43 < englishman> the grid is your battery 2016-05-02T06:48:46 < englishman> yeah 2016-05-02T06:48:47 < dongs> around 50bux/month lole 2016-05-02T06:48:51 < englishman> fuck batteries 2016-05-02T06:48:52 < englishman> yes that solar 2016-05-02T06:49:04 < englishman> its trash unless you have shitloads of it, and are in arizona 2016-05-02T06:49:08 < dongs> 200Ah batt is 60kg 2016-05-02T06:49:20 < dongs> is that right? 2016-05-02T06:49:29 < dongs> 1st amazon hit for 12V/200Ah 2016-05-02T06:49:35 < dongs> thats a fucking lot 2016-05-02T06:49:50 < dongs> lemme know when you get one of thse chink masts installed 2016-05-02T06:50:03 < englishman> no i found a canadian mfg 2016-05-02T06:50:30 < englishman> http://eocycle.com/ 2016-05-02T06:50:52 < englishman> they even have an app 2016-05-02T07:01:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T07:04:44 < upgrdman> altidongs pros: im trying to associate a footprint with a schematic symbol i made. am i doing something wrong, or is this a bug that wont list installed libs in the drop down list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ni_5An3JEE 2016-05-02T07:06:59 < dongs> upgrdman: "installed libs"? 2016-05-02T07:07:07 < dongs> you need to add your own lib to the project 2016-05-02T07:07:23 < dongs> englishman: jappu sale price is 22yenz@1kwh 2016-05-02T07:07:35 < dongs> i thikn thats wat my solar pays 2016-05-02T07:08:09 < englishman> thats huge 2016-05-02T07:08:21 < englishman> but we pay 5-8c/kWh 2016-05-02T07:08:34 < englishman> selling back pays the same 2016-05-02T07:08:35 < upgrdman> dongs, i want to use a footprint from the misc devices lib 2016-05-02T07:08:55 < englishman> so ~7jpy/kWh 2016-05-02T07:08:56 < dongs> upgrdman: then copy it into your own library, ungay it from all useless parameters while you're at it too 2016-05-02T07:09:08 < dongs> hm actually according to solar bill its more like 48/kwh 2016-05-02T07:09:17 < dongs> 112kwh made, 5376 paid 2016-05-02T07:10:01 < englishman> thats way higher than you pau 2016-05-02T07:10:02 < englishman> pay 2016-05-02T07:10:20 < englishman> dongs> k so i paid 27200 for 943kwh 2016-05-02T07:10:29 < dongs> hmm right. wtf? 2016-05-02T07:10:52 < dongs> oh wait 2016-05-02T07:10:57 < dongs> that was my 3phase shit 2016-05-02T07:11:05 < dongs> minus, not plus 2016-05-02T07:12:09 < dongs> hm nope 2016-05-02T07:12:17 < dongs> it is the sold. 2016-05-02T07:12:18 < dongs> what hte fuck 2016-05-02T07:14:18 < dongs> confused as fuck why would they pay me almost double the sale cost 2016-05-02T07:18:51 < upgrdman> how do i place an SMD pad in a pcb footprint. just a pad with hole size of zero? 2016-05-02T07:19:00 < upgrdman> no, that cant be it 2016-05-02T07:19:05 < upgrdman> then i have pads on top and bottom of pcb 2016-05-02T07:19:25 < dongs> ust pp 2016-05-02T07:19:27 < dongs> just 2016-05-02T07:19:33 < dongs> and place it on toplayer etc 2016-05-02T07:19:35 < englishman> in altidumb upgrdman ? 2016-05-02T07:19:41 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-02T07:19:45 < englishman> choose top layer 2016-05-02T07:19:48 < englishman> instead of multilayer 2016-05-02T07:20:57 < upgrdman> ah yes 2016-05-02T07:20:58 < upgrdman> thx 2016-05-02T07:24:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-02T07:24:59 < upgrdman> "lets hide our presence, so we get free advertising from ohsix" 2016-05-02T07:29:21 < dongs> better ide: lets hide ohsix to solve all problems 2016-05-02T07:29:23 < dongs> +a 2016-05-02T07:41:09 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m3tvJKvFzw 2016-05-02T07:48:15 < dongs> readstoner, what tehf uck would I use poweermill for with soliddongs 2016-05-02T07:51:29 < dongs> getting for pal, anyway 2016-05-02T07:51:30 < dongs> shrugs 2016-05-02T07:53:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T08:00:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T08:07:46 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.102] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-02T08:11:39 < upgrdman> in altidongs im drawing a pcb footprint, clicked something by accident, and now all the colors are a little darker. wtf did i do 2016-05-02T08:12:56 < dongs> shift-C? 2016-05-02T08:12:58 < Rob235_> pid about done, time for bed 2016-05-02T08:13:02 < dongs> or i duno 2016-05-02T08:13:06 < dongs> pic? 2016-05-02T08:24:22 < dongs> that feel when the only DRC errors are unconnected GNDs 2016-05-02T08:30:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-06ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has 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< dongs> o well just downloaded 518a will keep archive 2016-05-02T09:57:01 < dongs> purposes 2016-05-02T09:58:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T10:03:44 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@84-72-180-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T10:03:44 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@84-72-180-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-02T10:03:44 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T10:28:15 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T10:32:37 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T10:49:39 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T10:51:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:5840:b8c7:8a6f:a996] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-02T11:03:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-02T11:04:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-20.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T11:04:20 < zyp> 07:41:54 < ohsix> there isn't authentication on that shit cuz it gets in the way of people using them in good faith 2016-05-02T11:04:24 < zyp> idk 2016-05-02T11:04:59 < zyp> when I went to uni, we had to use a rfid card to authenticate at the printer 2016-05-02T11:05:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T11:05:53 < zyp> you just sent the print job to the system, then you could walk up to any printer and touch your card to fetch and print the job 2016-05-02T11:15:15 < dongs> englishman: apparently its some jap government thing 2016-05-02T11:15:39 < zyp> what is? 2016-05-02T11:15:48 < dongs> getting paid 2x the price of electricity for selling it 2016-05-02T11:16:06 < zyp> solar? 2016-05-02T11:16:07 < dongs> 52yen/kwh selling back and 28/kwh buying 2016-05-02T11:16:09 < dongs> anything eco 2016-05-02T11:16:11 < dongs> solar/wind 2016-05-02T11:16:20 < zyp> oh, heh 2016-05-02T11:16:25 < dongs> i think I got my job figured out for the next 20 years 2016-05-02T11:16:58 < zyp> power is 28 yen/kWh there? 2016-05-02T11:17:06 < dongs> thats wat i calculated lookin at my bill 2016-05-02T11:17:19 < dongs> i was blogging earlier how all-electric car costs nearly same as my prius+gas 2016-05-02T11:17:24 < dongs> like 20yen less 2016-05-02T11:17:28 < dongs> obviously not worth at all 2016-05-02T11:17:49 < zyp> oh, I missed that part 2016-05-02T11:18:03 < zyp> what electric consumption did you use for all-electric? 2016-05-02T11:18:14 < dongs> that chevrolet volt shit englishman linked 2016-05-02T11:18:19 < dongs> 300km/charge @ 60kwh batteries 2016-05-02T11:18:27 < dongs> just did 1:1 calc discounting losses 2016-05-02T11:18:34 < dongs> 30A@240V / 60kwh to charge fully 2016-05-02T11:18:44 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T11:19:35 < zyp> so 20kWh/100km 2016-05-02T11:19:41 < zyp> hmm, that's high 2016-05-02T11:20:29 < dongs> http://www.enecho.meti.go.jp/category/saving_and_new/saiene/kaitori/kakaku.htmlhttp://www.enecho.meti.go.jp/category/saving_and_new/saiene/kaitori/kakaku.html 2016-05-02T11:20:32 < dongs> er 2016-05-02T11:20:34 < dongs> http://www.enecho.meti.go.jp/category/saving_and_new/saiene/kaitori/kakaku.html 2016-05-02T11:20:49 < dongs> up to 20kW wind power, highest sale price of 55yenz 2016-05-02T11:21:00 < dongs> very weird how im getting 48 from solar tho.. 2016-05-02T11:21:03 < dongs> that page says it should be onyl 24 2016-05-02T11:21:31 < dongs> maybe there's some extra trash 2016-05-02T11:21:47 < dongs> maybe thats in addition to actual cost from electric company 2016-05-02T11:21:50 < dongs> just japs giving away money 2016-05-02T11:21:53 < dongs> wahtever it is, i want in on it 2016-05-02T11:21:58 < zyp> I've averaged 17.9 kWh/100km on the 4842km I've driven since I bought my car 2016-05-02T11:22:09 < dongs> you have your elcetricshit now? 2016-05-02T11:22:17 < zyp> yeah, for two months 2016-05-02T11:22:36 < dongs> yeah but do you pay 28yen/kwh electric? 2016-05-02T11:22:50 < zyp> no, that's also super expensive to me :p 2016-05-02T11:23:48 < zyp> hmm, the last 678km, I've averaged 15.1 kWh/100km 2016-05-02T11:23:59 < zyp> temperature matters a lot 2016-05-02T11:24:06 < dongs> less is better? 2016-05-02T11:24:16 < dongs> oh, i guess, right 2016-05-02T11:24:24 < zyp> no, more is better 2016-05-02T11:24:34 < zyp> since it's using electricity for heating 2016-05-02T11:24:52 < Lux> probably until you need the ac for cooling the battery 2016-05-02T11:24:53 < zyp> it's still <10C here most of the time 2016-05-02T11:24:54 < dongs> no i mean less kwh/100km 2016-05-02T11:25:05 < zyp> ah, of course 2016-05-02T11:26:41 < zyp> buying power in norway is kinda weird 2016-05-02T11:27:50 < zyp> there's a separate transmission fee 2016-05-02T11:28:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T11:28:42 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T11:28:58 < zyp> like, there's a bunch of companies that's selling "power", which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the transfer of that power 2016-05-02T11:29:14 < zyp> and then you pay a transmission fee to the utility company that owns the grid to your house 2016-05-02T11:29:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.243] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T11:29:43 < zyp> and nowadays, the transmission fee is almost twice as expensive as the power itself 2016-05-02T11:30:31 < zyp> like, I think I pay .40 NOK/kWh for that, and usually <.30 NOK/kWh for the power itself 2016-05-02T11:31:22 < zyp> adding them together, power here is like 9 JPY/kWh 2016-05-02T11:35:05 < karlp> the split of transmission, distribution and generation was ees regulated, and rather common, even australia has it split, just not sure if it's itemized separately. 2016-05-02T11:37:50 < zyp> karlp, sure, I'm not saying that's weird 2016-05-02T11:38:05 < zyp> the weird part is how the power itself costs less than getting it into my home 2016-05-02T11:39:47 < karlp> assigning costs to things is hard? 2016-05-02T11:40:10 < karlp> plant itself built with "development" money, transmission network actually need to be maintained and is unsexy? 2016-05-02T11:40:30 < zyp> idk how all that works 2016-05-02T11:40:39 < karlp> no-one does :) 2016-05-02T11:40:50 < karlp> it's all held together with ducttap and election promises 2016-05-02T11:41:31 < zyp> my point is that I can choose power company freely, but I have to pay the transmission fee to my local utility company no matter what 2016-05-02T11:42:13 < zyp> and when power is as cheap as it is now, changing that around doesn't make a lot of difference on the total cost 2016-05-02T11:42:38 < karlp> without much evidence to back it up, I believe that's pretty common too :) 2016-05-02T11:42:56 < karlp> I switched my "power company" a couple of years ago, as we were getting a a 10% discount through work. 2016-05-02T11:43:24 < karlp> the second company happily charged a "bill printing" fee, turned out without a few kr of the old combined bill. 2016-05-02T11:43:27 < karlp> fucking waste of time. 2016-05-02T11:43:36 < zyp> haha 2016-05-02T11:45:07 < zyp> here the cheapest option from all the companies are floating shit with "market cost plus a small fixed fee" 2016-05-02T11:45:08 < jpa-> yeah, here also tax (per kWh) + transfer fee is like 80% of the price 2016-05-02T11:45:37 < zyp> jpa-, how much is power there? 2016-05-02T11:45:56 < jpa-> total is about 0.15 EUR/kWh 2016-05-02T11:47:03 < jpa-> i always just use 1 W = 1 EUR/year :) 2016-05-02T11:48:03 < zyp> heh 2016-05-02T11:48:08 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlfxzdihorhksjll] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-02T11:49:04 < zyp> dongs, how much is gas over there? 2016-05-02T11:52:21 < dongs> zyp, hm not sure. we pay something.. i think its not cheap 2016-05-02T11:52:34 < dongs> < zyp> like, there's a bunch of companies that's selling "power", which doesn't necessarily have anything to do wi 2016-05-02T11:52:38 < dongs> sounds like internet in japan 2016-05-02T11:52:54 < dongs> NTT and million providers 2016-05-02T11:52:59 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: 73's] 2016-05-02T11:57:43 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T11:59:42 -!- Shavik__ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T11:59:59 < dongs> < zyp> adding them together, power here is like 9 JPY/kWh 2016-05-02T12:00:00 < dongs> fuuuu 2016-05-02T12:01:56 < dongs> k found gas bill 2016-05-02T12:02:04 < dongs> 25990 for 58.3 liters 2016-05-02T12:02:15 < dongs> or cubic liters or whatever teh fuck no idea what gas is measured in 2016-05-02T12:02:18 < dongs> no units on the bill. 2016-05-02T12:02:33 < Lux> i think it's usually in kg 2016-05-02T12:02:35 < karlp> could be m3 2016-05-02T12:02:44 < Lux> at least here it is for cng 2016-05-02T12:02:47 < dongs> lux, the jappu text says "volume" 2016-05-02T12:03:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T12:03:27 < karlp> lux, that's cng liquid though right? 2016-05-02T12:03:37 < karlp> not piped gas? 2016-05-02T12:03:39 < Lux> cng is compressed natural gas 2016-05-02T12:03:43 < dongs> i think my shit is LPG 2016-05-02T12:03:44 < Lux> the piped stuff 2016-05-02T12:03:48 < dongs> in cylinders. 2016-05-02T12:04:26 < dongs> yea it is. 2016-05-02T12:04:57 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T12:05:32 < dongs> k site seems to say its in m^3 2016-05-02T12:05:48 < dongs> so base price of 1,735 + 25,601 for 50m^3 2016-05-02T12:05:52 < dongs> sounds about right 2016-05-02T12:06:09 < Lux> cng is piped and lpg is similar to the stuff you get in your lighter 2016-05-02T12:06:11 < dongs> looks like mine is actually a bit cheaper than average 2016-05-02T12:06:23 < PeterM> random comment on cost of elec in aus - being in the middle of fucking nowhere as i am, i pay on average around $0.65AUD/kWh (pretty much spot on $0.5USD) 2016-05-02T12:06:43 < dongs> ya but you have a fucking over 9000 jiggawatts 3phase going into your shack 2016-05-02T12:06:56 < PeterM> service fee is fixed 2016-05-02T12:07:07 < PeterM> im talking about what i just pay for elec 2016-05-02T12:07:30 < dongs> thats higher than jp even 2016-05-02T12:07:31 < zyp> dongs, oh, I was thinking about gas for the car 2016-05-02T12:07:32 < dongs> ur fukd 2016-05-02T12:07:36 < dongs> zyp oh lol 2016-05-02T12:07:42 < dongs> i mentioned that too in earlier blog 2016-05-02T12:07:44 < dongs> around 119jpy/liter 2016-05-02T12:07:59 < Lux> PeterM: wouldn't solar pay off really fast with such a high cost ? 2016-05-02T12:08:02 < dongs> and my prius gets around 800km on 40L tank 2016-05-02T12:08:18 < dongs> so.. i calculated 300km hybrid vs 300km electric and the price was like 20yenz diff 2016-05-02T12:08:20 < zyp> dongs, ah, okay 2016-05-02T12:08:46 < zyp> so electricity here is a third of there, and gas here is like 150% of there 2016-05-02T12:09:00 < zyp> that makes the numbers add up 2016-05-02T12:10:54 < PeterM> lux yes 2016-05-02T12:11:14 < PeterM> i've been thinking about goign full offgridtard with it 2016-05-02T12:13:27 < zyp> there's some people messing around with solar here, but according to the numbers I've seen, I'm not even sure they break even 2016-05-02T12:14:48 < zyp> especially considering that when you're selling surplus power, they're only paying you for the power, not the transmission fee 2016-05-02T12:14:51 < zyp> I believe 2016-05-02T12:14:51 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T12:14:56 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fctlvqcxlxvvzqir] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for 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you get paid more for selling power than buying it, can't you just grab some batteries and alternate between charging and discharging them? :p 2016-05-02T12:19:04 < karlp> so rather than selling back and forth and flowing in and out, everyone just buys more battereies and tries to trickle charge off the grid instead 2016-05-02T12:19:15 < dongs> zyp, probably 2016-05-02T12:20:37 < dongs> < dongs> 200Ah batt is 60kg 2016-05-02T12:20:40 < Lux> iirc in spain they just used diesel generators 2016-05-02T12:20:48 < zyp> dongs, lead acid? 2016-05-02T12:20:53 < dongs> yeahj 2016-05-02T12:21:03 < dongs> should it be lipo instead? 2016-05-02T12:21:09 < Lux> full solar power at a cloudy day :) 2016-05-02T12:21:27 < zyp> idk 2016-05-02T12:21:39 < zyp> whatever is cheapest I guess, you're not going to drive it around 2016-05-02T12:21:52 < zyp> EVs are lithium because it's lighter 2016-05-02T12:21:57 < dongs> right 2016-05-02T12:22:12 < zyp> that 200Ah is 12V? 2016-05-02T12:22:16 < Lux> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/17/nobody-expects-the-spanish-solar-inquisition/ 2016-05-02T12:22:48 < dongs> zyp eyah ii duno i just googled 12V200Ah and clicked on first amazon link 2016-05-02T12:23:00 < dongs> didnt spend a lot of time looking for average weight 2016-05-02T12:23:03 < Lux> lifepo is probably the best, as it's supposed to have the longest cycle life 2016-05-02T12:23:05 < dongs> seems liek a fucking lot anyway 2016-05-02T12:23:09 < PeterM> unless you are producing MWh amounts of energy or your govt has massive diesel subsidies, gensets arent economically viable. 2016-05-02T12:23:34 < Lux> lead acid dies pretty fast especially if the dod is high 2016-05-02T12:24:50 < PeterM> yeah, p[bso4 is shite cycle life 2016-05-02T12:25:38 < PeterM> i reckon scrapped EV batts is probably the best $/kWh/lifetime you can get 2016-05-02T12:26:27 < dongs> lol @ spanes trolling 2016-05-02T12:26:34 < dongs> but too fucking dumb to just run the generators during day 2016-05-02T12:26:56 < Lux> PeterM: that for sure, if you can get your hands on one and have time to do the modifications 2016-05-02T12:27:23 < PeterM> lux modifications? no need 2016-05-02T12:27:33 < PeterM> unless you're buying a partial pack 2016-05-02T12:27:47 < jpa-> wouldn't scrapped car batteries be even better? 2016-05-02T12:27:49 < PeterM> in which case, why are you buying a partial pack? 2016-05-02T12:28:03 < Lux> i'd guess you'd have to integrate it into an existing system 2016-05-02T12:28:22 < PeterM> jpa- like scrapped car pbso4 batts? 2016-05-02T12:28:26 < Lux> like have some custom controller for the battery, which is usually in the car 2016-05-02T12:28:28 < dongs> http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f177305919 2016-05-02T12:28:29 < dongs> $2k 2016-05-02T12:28:44 < jpa-> PeterM: ya 2016-05-02T12:28:47 < PeterM> lux nah, most car batts have the BMS as part of the batt module 2016-05-02T12:29:17 < Lux> and you'd have to interface that proprietary interface somehow or is that standardized ? 2016-05-02T12:29:24 < PeterM> jpa- nope, they have garbage cycle life (like 100 cycles at 70% dod), and a lot of that will already be goen when you have them 2016-05-02T12:29:32 < PeterM> lux you wouldnt you'df let it run standalone 2016-05-02T12:30:00 < jpa-> i would expect EV batteries to be similarly close to end of life 2016-05-02T12:30:07 < dongs> 68k EV batt 2016-05-02T12:30:08 < Lux> ok 2016-05-02T12:30:17 < jpa-> i guess it depends on how fast the capacity drops at the end of life 2016-05-02T12:30:21 < dongs> 68k km that is 2016-05-02T12:30:31 < PeterM> jpa- not really, most ev batts are scrapped because the vehicle wass damaged in aan accident 2016-05-02T12:30:36 < dongs> how many kwh is leaf 2016-05-02T12:30:45 < dongs> 30kWh batt 2016-05-02T12:30:46 < jpa-> PeterM: hm, i guess that is true currently 2016-05-02T12:30:49 < zyp> old is 24, new is 30 2016-05-02T12:30:52 < PeterM> and ev batts, even after their cycle life are still good, because cycle life is usually rated to 70% capacity or osmething similar 2016-05-02T12:31:18 < dongs> http://www.upjpn.jp/yahoo/car_photo/912212/6451/m0003.jpg 2016-05-02T12:31:22 < dongs> oh its 24kwh version 2016-05-02T12:31:55 < PeterM> so if the batt has done 500 cycles to 70% capacity, who cares, you're still gonna get boat loads of capacity out of the cells until they're right down in capacity 2016-05-02T12:32:49 < PeterM> i wodner how much nissan charge for a leaf batt brand spakin new fropm a dealer? 2016-05-02T12:33:13 < PeterM> i mean, if that shit is like $10k, thats still fuckin cheap 2016-05-02T12:34:04 < dongs> http://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/parts/nissan-battery-assy-main~295b0-3na0a.html 2016-05-02T12:34:12 < dongs> 24k version is discontinued 2016-05-02T12:35:27 < dongs> http://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/parts-list/2015-nissan-leaf/electric-vehicle-battery.html?Diagram=291_A003 2016-05-02T12:35:37 < dongs> lol no proce for acutal battery 2016-05-02T12:35:43 < dongs> just "bolt" wat 2016-05-02T12:38:10 < dongs> hm zyp looks like 30k is starting from this year model? 2016-05-02T12:38:42 < zyp> yeah 2016-05-02T12:42:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-20.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-02T13:00:43 < PeterM> how did i never notice 2016-05-02T13:01:15 < PeterM> that laurenceb clearly isnt "Laurence B.", its "Laurence from /b/" 2016-05-02T13:01:24 < dongs> laurence/b/ 2016-05-02T13:01:30 < PeterM> exactly 2016-05-02T13:01:33 < dongs> lolz 2016-05-02T13:01:58 < dongs> makes total sense 2016-05-02T13:09:20 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-20.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:15:35 < Ecco> Hi everyone :) 2016-05-02T13:18:28 < PeterM> go back to the megadrive where you belong 2016-05-02T13:18:35 < PeterM> oops, i mena, hello 2016-05-02T13:20:17 < dongs> ecco the cock-sucking blogger 2016-05-02T13:23:01 < Ecco> nice :-) 2016-05-02T13:23:18 < Ecco> nothing beats a warm welcome :-) 2016-05-02T13:25:34 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:29:39 < Ecco> I'm reading about stop mode 2016-05-02T13:29:48 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T13:29:49 < Ecco> correct me if I'm wrong, but to get out of stop mode through a button 2016-05-02T13:30:02 < Ecco> you have to configure a GPIO to generate an external interupt 2016-05-02T13:30:24 < Ecco> Is that correct? 2016-05-02T13:31:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.74] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:33:19 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:33:33 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:34:11 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:34:16 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.236.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:35:05 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.236.46] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-02T13:35:05 -!- albru123 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< Ecco> I'm using an STM32F4 2016-05-02T13:42:57 < Ecco> and the datasheet says "The device can be woken up from the Stop mode by any of the EXTI line" 2016-05-02T13:43:04 < dongs> well then 2016-05-02T13:43:07 < dongs> its not wrong. 2016-05-02T13:43:44 < Ecco> :-) 2016-05-02T13:43:46 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:43:51 < Ecco> I have another question though, regarding reset 2016-05-02T13:44:06 < Ecco> How do you deal in the field with a software that crashes? 2016-05-02T13:44:19 < Ecco> Assuming a crash isn't that bad by itself, how do you get the device back in a working state? 2016-05-02T13:44:39 < Ecco> Devices used to have a "reset" button, but I haven't seen any of those in a long time. 2016-05-02T13:45:10 < Ecco> Is it possible to have a "long press on a button means reset" behaviour? Or is there any other way that's generally used? 2016-05-02T13:45:11 < karlp> kicking dogs 2016-05-02T13:45:21 < karlp> sure, long press for reset, if you want a reset button. 2016-05-02T13:45:46 < Ecco> I've been trying to find how to do this but I can't figure out how 2016-05-02T13:51:55 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.46] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-02T13:52:48 < karlp> ecco: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0337e/ch06s03s02.html 2016-05-02T13:54:05 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T13:54:17 < Ecco> hmm, ok, let me read that 2016-05-02T13:57:19 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T14:11:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-02T14:16:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-20.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-02T14:17:54 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T14:19:11 < karlp> bargain: http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alorium-Technology/XLR8R21M08V5U0DI/?qs=b3QwWlrdtsuVi44hV%252beZdQ%3d%3d 2016-05-02T14:19:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T14:20:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-02T14:26:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-97.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T14:36:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-02T14:38:39 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T14:39:09 -!- elektrinis-wrk [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T14:43:30 < englishman> zyp, it kind of makes sense that half your energy cost is transmission. Since about half of produced energy is lost in transmission 2016-05-02T14:44:10 < zyp> more like two thirds of the cost 2016-05-02T14:44:40 < englishman> Maybe it reflects actual costs, is what I'm sayin 2016-05-02T14:45:03 < englishman> Also, solar in Norway, lul 2016-05-02T14:45:26 < englishman> I'm at 47 deg and it's already useless 2016-05-02T14:47:56 < zyp> half lost in transmission sounds like a lot 2016-05-02T14:48:13 < zyp> and so what wrt. solar? 2016-05-02T14:49:11 < PeterM> Transmission and distribution losses in the USA were estimated at 6.6% in 1997[14] and 6.5% in 2007 2016-05-02T14:49:38 < zyp> that sounds more reasonable 2016-05-02T14:49:48 < PeterM> http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=105&t=3 2016-05-02T14:50:00 < PeterM> but yeah, "half" sounds unreasonable 2016-05-02T14:51:44 < PeterM> thats fine, you'll just pump it back out rihgt? 2016-05-02T14:53:07 < englishman> hmm, I was under the impression transmission loss was much more 2016-05-02T14:53:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T14:53:43 < englishman> and re solar: it's still extremely expensive for low production unless you're pretty far south 2016-05-02T14:54:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T14:54:11 < englishman> but this will probably change in next 5-10y. 2016-05-02T14:54:46 < englishman> already some installations are more reasonable $1/w 2016-05-02T14:54:56 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T14:55:18 < englishman> hi 2016-05-02T14:55:54 < englishman> you must have a lot of solar trucks running around near where you are 2016-05-02T14:56:18 < englishman> hm 2016-05-02T14:57:21 < PeterM> id be down for less effficient less expensivbe solar, like... 1/2 efficient, 1/4 expensive - so 1/2 as much $/kW, because straya and empty spac 2016-05-02T14:58:22 < lorenzo> bah, linux people have been ripping off UIs for at least two decades 2016-05-02T14:58:22 < englishman> there was an article in the paper about a guy who spent tons to install 8kW or something in the gaspé. To produce like $500/yr in credits 2016-05-02T14:58:27 < lorenzo> why can't they copy/paste explorer.exe properly 2016-05-02T14:58:33 < lorenzo> this nemo linux mint shit keeps on crashing 2016-05-02T14:59:07 < PeterM> what ever happened to reactos aside from nothing? 2016-05-02T14:59:42 < PeterM> crt iirc there were mad xp source code leaks, so thats not unlikely 2016-05-02T15:01:42 < englishman> http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/05/sunedison-bankruptcy-exposes-climate-change-corruption/ 2016-05-02T15:02:12 < englishman> I had a contract with this company last week, maybe I *should* get into solar and drink from that government teat like dongs 2016-05-02T15:07:38 < PeterM> we also had stupidly hueg government subsidys etc on solar installs, so hueg grants for installing solar + huieg bonuses to feed in tarrifs. i know a few people who put $100k into solar setups and paid for themselves in little over a year 2016-05-02T15:08:20 < PeterM> i feel like a bit of a dumbass for not jumping on the bandwagon 2016-05-02T15:10:39 < PeterM> these days it isnt worth it 2016-05-02T15:10:48 < PeterM> govt cut the feed in tarrif subsidys 2016-05-02T15:24:53 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T15:27:09 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T15:27:09 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2016-05-02T15:29:59 < Rob235> I'll subscribe if you let a big wild cat (like a tiger) loose in the shed 2016-05-02T15:31:38 < Rob235> sounds good 2016-05-02T15:33:50 < Rob235> I'm trying to wake up 2016-05-02T15:35:49 < Rob235> I woke up still kinda tired but didn't want to go back to sleep, just gotta wait an hour or so and I'm sure I'll feel fine. 2016-05-02T15:37:02 < Rob235> not today, new semester starts today 2016-05-02T15:38:26 < Rob235> just working part time while I finish up my degree 2016-05-02T15:42:04 -!- Shavik__ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T16:00:24 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T16:04:42 < dongs> more like dick shed channel 2016-05-02T16:05:27 < dongs> autisming? 2016-05-02T16:05:38 < dongs> me2 2016-05-02T16:09:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T16:10:03 < dongs> < PeterM> how did i never notice 2016-05-02T16:10:03 < dongs> < PeterM> that laurenceb clearly isnt "Laurence B.", its "Laurence from /b/" 2016-05-02T16:12:21 < dongs> http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21698060-craig-wright-reveals-himself-as-satoshi-nakamoto 2016-05-02T16:12:24 < dongs> lol 2016-05-02T16:12:58 < Laurenceb_> lul accurate 2016-05-02T16:16:05 < Rob235> damn I dont want to hook up this IMU, what axis are generally for pitch/roll/yaw, x/z/y? I forget the orientation 2016-05-02T16:16:25 < dongs> there's NED and tehre's some other one 2016-05-02T16:16:34 < dongs> ENU 2016-05-02T16:16:37 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axes_conventions 2016-05-02T16:16:49 < Rob235> in other words I can't guess 2016-05-02T16:21:17 < dongs> PeterM is actually craig steven wright 2016-05-02T16:21:54 < Rob235> why is it so cold in May 2016-05-02T16:22:15 < Rob235> it better be hot as hell in october 2016-05-02T16:27:09 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/Hq4tjGyP 2016-05-02T16:27:40 < Rob235> am I missing anything? 2016-05-02T16:27:56 < Rob235> aside from the values I have commented to set 2016-05-02T16:28:02 < dongs> < dongs> i want to murder anyone who writes void func() 2016-05-02T16:28:45 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-02T16:29:14 < kakimir> why not to do func? 2016-05-02T16:29:51 < kakimir> if there is such minimalistic program that only have let's say main and func 2016-05-02T16:30:04 < kakimir> and it's for teaching purposes 2016-05-02T16:31:59 * Laurenceb_ wonders what Craig Wright's IQ is 2016-05-02T16:32:21 < Laurenceb_> Rob235: whats that code supposed to so? 2016-05-02T16:32:32 < Rob235> pid controller 2016-05-02T16:32:50 < kakimir> God damn 2016-05-02T16:33:10 < kakimir> I'm hookerd 2016-05-02T16:33:11 < Laurenceb_> I'm confused 2016-05-02T16:33:14 < kakimir> hooked 2016-05-02T16:33:23 < Laurenceb_> we know you liek hookers 2016-05-02T16:33:30 < kakimir> just spend 12 or more hours playing factorio 2016-05-02T16:33:45 < Laurenceb_> Rob235: if you want orientation you can't just integrate rate gyros 2016-05-02T16:34:09 < Rob235> I have orientation, this is to smooth out stabilization 2016-05-02T16:34:45 < Laurenceb_> oh ok 2016-05-02T16:40:56 < Rob235> overwatch open beta in a few days, I'm curious to try it 2016-05-02T16:48:24 < dongs> so whats up with buttcoin 2016-05-02T16:50:38 < Rob235> time for the annoying part of walking through the pid to determine what units everything is supposed to be in 2016-05-02T16:54:37 < Laurenceb_> like Craig Wright could have even created bitcoin 2016-05-02T16:54:49 < Laurenceb_> is he some sort of math/comp sci prof 2016-05-02T16:54:49 < dongs> but he could have created emdrive! 2016-05-02T16:55:06 < dongs> he pasted some lunix commands on ubunto 2016-05-02T16:55:07 < dongs> as proof 2016-05-02T16:58:15 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-02T16:58:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-02T17:07:42 < Laurenceb_> trawls 2016-05-02T17:07:54 < Laurenceb_> linux pwns windoze 2016-05-02T17:10:19 < Laurenceb_> flash is cancer 2016-05-02T17:11:48 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:12:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:13:13 < Laurenceb_> lul Murica is getting Trumpd 2016-05-02T17:14:22 < Laurenceb_> 1002 delegates 2016-05-02T17:14:32 * Laurenceb_ starts work on his fallout shelter 2016-05-02T17:15:09 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:20:08 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:26:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-02T17:26:23 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-02T17:26:37 < Steffanx> Whats pumping crt? 2016-05-02T17:30:06 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-02T17:33:17 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:39:02 < karlp> huh, this older printer I pulled apart enumerates as "Deskjet Reflas" if you hold the power button down while turning it on. 2016-05-02T17:39:13 < karlp> all custom labelled ICs though. 2016-05-02T17:40:06 < karlp> http://www.renausa.com/index.html has some field notes on "upgradeing the firmware" that seems to use the same controller internall :) 2016-05-02T17:40:54 < karlp> neither had I 2016-05-02T17:41:34 < karlp> heh, ali sells them "as new" https://win-chips.en.alibaba.com/product/60134343025-800744710/1827_0080_REV5_4S_STMicroelectronics_QFP.html 2016-05-02T17:42:04 < dongs> wat 2016-05-02T17:42:29 < dongs> waht the fuck is that pile of chips even 2016-05-02T17:44:01 < karlp> one of the chips on a really old basic hp printer 2016-05-02T17:44:33 < karlp> 36v and 15v supplies, why so much? surely the moters don't need that much voltage? 2016-05-02T17:45:54 -!- CRTT [~autiste@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:46:29 < Sync> that depends 2016-05-02T17:46:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T17:49:27 < upgrdman> with altidongs, how can i make a pin name be perpendicular to the pin? like on an LDO symbol, the ground pin is vertical but i want the GND label to be horizontal 2016-05-02T17:50:13 < upgrdman> o nm, found "name position" setting 2016-05-02T17:51:08 < dongs> usually i wouldnt bother 2016-05-02T17:51:11 < dongs> but yeah that 2016-05-02T17:51:18 < dongs> those dont flow very well if you rotate the symbol 2016-05-02T17:51:21 < dongs> once its on schematic 2016-05-02T17:51:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-97.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T17:51:47 < dongs> have you discovered pin0, hide and connect to GND yet? 2016-05-02T17:56:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-02T17:57:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:00:32 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:00:32 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@2001:67c:10ec:3185:8000::10e9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:00:32 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@2001:67c:10ec:3185:8000::10e9] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-02T18:00:32 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:01:23 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yodouuwptwfcgmek] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:01:34 < karlp> hey upgrdman, had any problems with your das keyboard?Ð 2016-05-02T18:02:01 < karlp> I got a v4 professional, and it doesn't enumerate when plugged into a usb3 port at boot time, but works ok if I unplug it and replug it 2016-05-02T18:02:12 < karlp> bios is fine, but linux loses it when it's booting. 2016-05-02T18:02:12 < upgrdman> weird 2016-05-02T18:02:17 < upgrdman> ya, no problems here 2016-05-02T18:02:18 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-02T18:02:20 < karlp> got a ticket with das keyboard, they say "weird" too, 2016-05-02T18:02:23 < karlp> not real helpful. 2016-05-02T18:02:31 < upgrdman> in fact, im ordering a second one later this week 2016-05-02T18:02:36 < upgrdman> one for work, one for home 2016-05-02T18:02:41 < karlp> the brown isn't is quiet as I'd hoped, 2016-05-02T18:02:48 < karlp> it's only marginally quieter than the old dell I had. 2016-05-02T18:02:54 < dongs> how badly can you fuckup USB HID 2016-05-02T18:02:59 < upgrdman> does it behave the same when plugged into different ports on your pc? 2016-05-02T18:03:02 < dongs> avr newbs 2016-05-02T18:03:02 < karlp> it's a nice device, but not entirely convinced yet of it's value. 2016-05-02T18:03:05 < upgrdman> maybe bios setting? 2016-05-02T18:03:20 < karlp> upgrdman: no bios setting I can find, only got two usb3 ports, 2016-05-02T18:03:26 < karlp> and I do have a very old mobo for usb3 2016-05-02T18:03:37 < upgrdman> ya they seem overpriced, but i dont mind since i get the nice media keys + usb3 hub built in 2016-05-02T18:04:16 < upgrdman> tempted to say a mobo problem then. bios update? or try on another pc to see if kybd works fine? 2016-05-02T18:04:27 < karlp> tedious. 2016-05-02T18:04:33 < karlp> yeah, I wanted teh media keys and usb3 hub, 2016-05-02T18:04:48 < upgrdman> dongs, re: pin0... uh no. what's up with that? 2016-05-02T18:05:00 < karlp> but by the time I've bought custom keycaps to get icelandic letters, and will add oring dampeners to make it quieter again, gets fairly expensive 2016-05-02T18:05:09 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-02T18:05:18 < karlp> uPD720200 rev 3. I wonder if I can get an update firmware for the usb3 controller 2016-05-02T18:05:43 < dongs> karlp: you can 2016-05-02T18:05:46 < dongs> there's lots of htem too 2016-05-02T18:05:54 < dongs> is this on a usb3 card? 2016-05-02T18:05:55 < dongs> or onboard 2016-05-02T18:06:08 < karlp> onboard, old old mobo, usb3 was "new" on mobos then. 2016-05-02T18:06:50 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/ESPkn773.html 2016-05-02T18:06:53 < dongs> release notes for that controller firmware 2016-05-02T18:06:59 < dongs> see if you spot anything relevant to your shit 2016-05-02T18:07:07 -!- c10ud^^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:08:03 < dongs> - The following problem was fixed. 2016-05-02T18:08:03 < dongs> 1. In Linux environment, there is a possibiity that some USB3.0 devices 2016-05-02T18:08:03 < dongs> are not detected after the PC connected with them has booted up. 2016-05-02T18:08:04 < dongs> We have not seen this problem in Windows environment. 2016-05-02T18:08:04 < dongs> lol 2016-05-02T18:08:06 < dongs> is that it? 2016-05-02T18:08:09 < karlp> In Linux environment, there is a possibiity that some USB3.0 devices are not detected after the PC connected with them has booted up. We have not seen this problem in Windows environment. 2016-05-02T18:08:15 < karlp> yeah, that's pretty much exactly it :) 2016-05-02T18:08:19 < dongs> lole 2016-05-02T18:08:22 < dongs> fkin lunix trash 2016-05-02T18:08:43 < karlp> so... how do I update the firmware then.... 2016-05-02T18:08:45 < ReadError> my bios has an option for that 2016-05-02T18:08:55 < ReadError> something about how the bios hands devices off to the OS 2016-05-02T18:08:59 < dongs> it depends if they stuck a spi eeprom next to that usb chip 2016-05-02T18:09:03 < ReadError> maybe theres an option ? 2016-05-02T18:09:04 < dongs> if so, you can use some dos thingy to flash it 2016-05-02T18:09:05 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:09:06 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-02T18:09:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:09:06 < dongs> over pcie 2016-05-02T18:09:46 < karlp> whre did you get those release notes? 2016-05-02T18:09:59 < dongs> i made a board with that chip on it 2016-05-02T18:10:03 < dongs> and have some docs/sdk/stuff 2016-05-02T18:10:47 < dongs> you could probly get from renesas if you reigster and open a ticket or somethin 2016-05-02T18:11:01 < dongs> you said yours was 720200, mine was 720202 (2 port usb3 thing) 2016-05-02T18:11:02 < karlp> so, if this computer ran windows is there an update tool for it? 2016-05-02T18:11:07 < dongs> yes 2016-05-02T18:11:19 < karlp> mine's probably the 202, it's only got two ports ont he back, 2016-05-02T18:11:25 < dongs> ah 2016-05-02T18:11:28 < karlp> lspci just says uPD720200 2016-05-02T18:12:05 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:12:48 < dongs> well, i can give you stuff "at your own risk" 2016-05-02T18:12:53 < karlp> huh, they suppor tthat weird debugport stuff. 2016-05-02T18:12:56 < karlp> at my own risk is ok. 2016-05-02T18:13:38 < dongs> see /notice 2016-05-02T18:16:08 < karlp> danke 2016-05-02T18:16:13 < dongs> tehre's a readme about wat to do and you probly want latest firmware which is like 3rd foldr or someshit 2016-05-02T18:16:19 < dongs> lemme know how it goes 2016-05-02T18:16:58 < karlp> yeahm, gotta fiddle up a windows boot disk or something yet. 2016-05-02T18:17:06 < karlp> and daughter's due to wake up any minute 2016-05-02T18:17:15 < dongs> install win10 insteaad of luni 2016-05-02T18:17:31 < dongs> you could probly just tap spi eprom and reflash with buttpirate or similar 2016-05-02T18:17:38 < dongs> afaik its just raw , no special mapping 2016-05-02T18:18:02 < dongs> i used MX25L5121EMC-20G 2016-05-02T18:20:10 -!- scrts_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:21:01 -!- Simon--_ [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:21:34 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-02T18:21:36 -!- droidicus 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datecode on that thing 2016-05-02T18:39:25 < dongs> so like end of 2009 2016-05-02T18:40:59 < dongs> http://www.renesas.com/products/soc/usb_assp/product/upd720200a/index.jsp looks like there's 'A' 2016-05-02T18:41:02 < dongs> version 2016-05-02T18:41:39 < dongs> you can get datasheet/schematics with login but to get the firmware udpate shit you gota contact htem 2016-05-02T18:42:09 < dongs> 'premium user' shit. 2016-05-02T18:42:47 < dongs> http://pete.akeo.ie/2011/10/flashing-necrenesas-usb-30.html 2016-05-02T18:42:48 < dongs> seems relevant 2016-05-02T18:43:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-02T18:43:37 < upgrdman> is there a name for the series of footprints used my PTH electrolytic caps 2016-05-02T18:45:57 < dongs> upgrdman: some have case code, but looks like its just metric distance between opins 2016-05-02T18:46:03 < dongs> 2.5/5mm 2016-05-02T18:46:05 < dongs> (and more 2016-05-02T18:48:16 < dongs> bedtime 2016-05-02T18:49:18 < upgrdman> k thx 2016-05-02T18:50:23 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-02T18:50:53 < dongs> karlp: http://www.station-drivers.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=353&func=select&id=438&lang=en that french site was gay as fuck 2016-05-02T18:54:13 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T18:59:28 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T19:02:09 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T19:09:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.94] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T19:16:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-02T19:32:39 < PaulFertser> Are japs bad at programming http://hackaday.com/2016/05/02/software-update-destroys-286-million-japanese-satellite/ ? 2016-05-02T19:33:32 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txhzhrspwmunnatu] 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-02T21:21:26 < zyp> ReadError, wtf, no 2016-05-02T21:21:32 < zyp> oh 2016-05-02T21:21:37 < zyp> like outline? 2016-05-02T21:21:45 < zyp> I was thinking refdes, sorry 2016-05-02T21:21:45 < ReadError> anything on the silk layer 2016-05-02T21:21:54 < ReadError> if you know a better way im all ears 2016-05-02T21:22:24 < zyp> refdes can be both moved and hidden indepentently, that's what I was thinking about 2016-05-02T21:22:33 < ReadError> ref is easy, just unselect 'show name' 2016-05-02T21:22:48 < zyp> yep 2016-05-02T21:22:49 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T21:23:11 < zyp> I tend to remove them all, except for connectors and shit 2016-05-02T21:23:49 < ReadError> yea modifying the footprint and replacing is easiest/best 2016-05-02T21:24:05 < ReadError> its so simple to update, dont see any reason not to do it that way 2016-05-02T21:24:11 < zyp> agreed 2016-05-02T21:24:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.88] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T21:26:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-02T21:51:23 < Lux> any ideas why sprintf on an stm32f4 takes ~30µs for converting a float ? 2016-05-02T21:51:39 < Lux> seems pretty long at 168mhz 2016-05-02T22:00:17 < Laurenceb_> use rfprintf 2016-05-02T22:00:59 < Steffanx> newlib nano stuff Lux? 2016-05-02T22:02:25 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32-Logger/blob/master/Util/rprintf.c 2016-05-02T22:02:28 < Laurenceb_> stealz 2016-05-02T22:03:08 < Laurenceb_> http://www.procyonengineering.com/embedded/avr/avrlib/ 2016-05-02T22:03:31 < Laurenceb_> is a good target for random code 2016-05-02T22:03:36 < Lux> Steffanx: i think so 2016-05-02T22:03:46 < Lux> Laurenceb_: thanks, i'll have a look 2016-05-02T22:04:00 < Laurenceb_> easy to port to stm32 2016-05-02T22:04:49 < Steffanx> i think so or im sure. Those are 2 differen things Lux 2016-05-02T22:05:15 < Laurenceb_> all the printf implementations I have tried were horribly bloated 2016-05-02T22:05:31 < Laurenceb_> chprintf from ChibiOS isn't too horrible 2016-05-02T22:05:41 < Steffanx> I don't trust some one who cant even get openocd to work. 2016-05-02T22:05:46 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-02T22:05:51 < Laurenceb_> I'm just too busy 2016-05-02T22:07:53 < Lux> Steffanx: nah i just checked, i just copied a makefile from the net that uses the default 2016-05-02T22:08:15 < Lux> at least i see no reference to newlib nano 2016-05-02T22:09:07 < Steffanx> i would try that first before starting to mess around with some random other one. 2016-05-02T22:09:13 < Steffanx> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/251686250/readme.txt tells you how to do it. 2016-05-02T22:10:05 < Lux> thanks 2016-05-02T22:13:36 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-02T22:14:57 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T22:29:13 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-02T22:31:06 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-02T22:35:31 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T22:38:08 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txhzhrspwmunnatu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-02T22:39:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T22:41:31 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ooevdvetnqibxcar] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T22:45:30 < karlp> Lux: could also be that it's not a float, but a double? there's pretty major differences on f4 between single and double floats 2016-05-02T22:52:42 < karlp> stupid wwindows iso for recovery doesn't execute the renesas fwupdater thing says it's corrupt. 2016-05-02T23:08:53 < Lux> karlp: it's definetly float 2016-05-02T23:09:16 < Lux> would be interesting though what actually happens there 2016-05-02T23:09:36 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-02T23:10:26 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB0lrSebyng 2016-05-02T23:10:33 < ReadError> did you see that one? lol 2016-05-02T23:13:33 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:13:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-1ab9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-02T23:15:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-02T23:15:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:21:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d40999.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:25:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d40999.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-02T23:28:57 -!- specing_ [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:29:08 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-05-02T23:29:11 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2016-05-02T23:29:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-02T23:30:04 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:30:21 -!- specing_ is now known as specing 2016-05-02T23:30:41 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:32:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.187.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-02T23:33:55 < Rob235> hmm, its gonna take 11 hours to transfer half of this hard drive over 2016-05-02T23:40:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-02T23:41:08 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-02T23:42:05 < upgrdman_> is it possible to have altium clip any overhanging stuff so the 3d preview looks like the real board 2016-05-02T23:45:06 < Rob235> 100 gigs per hour... 2016-05-02T23:45:47 -!- rmull [~rmull@nooperation.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-02T23:48:35 < ReadError> whats the tl;dr about this guy 2016-05-02T23:48:46 < ReadError> he came out and said hes the inventor, but hes not? 2016-05-02T23:53:12 < Rob235> jjalsdjfkl;ajsdfkl;jadf 2016-05-02T23:53:15 < Rob235> fucking asus --- Day changed Tue May 03 2016 2016-05-03T00:02:54 -!- Shavik__ is now known as Shavik 2016-05-03T00:05:18 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T00:11:54 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-iqjukmqclefxkdsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-03T00:12:52 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-qlphwskydnemmdyu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T00:14:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T00:14:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-03T00:20:42 < ReadError> explain the buttcoin thing 2016-05-03T00:22:19 < ReadError> why does it matter who SN is tho? 2016-05-03T00:25:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-03T00:32:53 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-03T00:34:37 < ReadError> im just wondering what the endgame is 2016-05-03T00:35:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T00:39:06 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T00:45:25 < ReadError> wat are you talking about 2016-05-03T00:58:09 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ooevdvetnqibxcar] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-03T01:01:54 < Laurenceb_> xkcd? 2016-05-03T01:01:56 < Laurenceb_> http://xkcdsucks.blogspot.co.uk/ 2016-05-03T01:11:38 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T01:51:07 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tazhyyzavsqgayuh] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:02:46 < ds2> arrrrrrrrrg too many packages@#%@#$@#$@#$@!@@! 2016-05-03T02:03:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T02:07:16 < karlp> goddamn, freedos bootable usb image doesn't boot fuckin thing 2016-05-03T02:09:01 < karlp> need to run the nec/renensas firmware updater shits 2016-05-03T02:09:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-03T02:09:41 < karlp> found a hacked up windows boot iso that sort of worked for gskill ssd drivers, but it's missing some things that the flashing thing needs, it was designed to run some gskill apps only 2016-05-03T02:12:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:13:44 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:14:16 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T02:14:44 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:15:59 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:17:53 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-03T02:18:00 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tazhyyzavsqgayuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-03T02:19:18 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-03T02:19:19 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dldlpfhxtstrekof] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:20:12 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-05-03T02:21:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-03T02:26:21 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-03T02:53:51 < karlp> heh, other people with my motherboard are also reporting problems booting from usb. 2016-05-03T02:53:59 < karlp> fucking need to burn more cds 2016-05-03T02:54:43 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T02:55:13 < Laurenceb_> feel the bern 2016-05-03T02:56:03 < Thorn> I have a flash drive that works with one motherboard, another drive that works with another motherboard, and a 3rd drive that works with both 2016-05-03T02:59:16 < karlp> yeah, on some gigabyte forum, people are having usb flash that works with others, but not with this one. 2016-05-03T03:01:27 < ds2> p 2016-05-03T03:01:55 < Rob235> how would you split up your movie collection? by year? first letter of the title? 2016-05-03T03:03:13 < lorenzo> I wouldn't, I'd just let things sit where they are 2016-05-03T03:03:24 < dongs> Rob235: ask autism6, he has more movies than he will ever have time to watch 2016-05-03T03:03:25 < lorenzo> it's a good general approach to anything in life btw 2016-05-03T03:03:58 < Rob235> folder takes too long to load, gotta split it up 2016-05-03T03:04:05 < dongs> what 2016-05-03T03:04:10 < dongs> try using windows. 2016-05-03T03:05:53 < Rob235> it's so nice having storage space again 2016-05-03T03:08:42 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-03T03:10:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T03:12:46 < Rob235> yea I'm using kodi 2016-05-03T03:12:49 < Rob235> so it doesn't really matter 2016-05-03T03:12:54 < Rob235> I'm just anal about organizing things 2016-05-03T03:12:57 < Rob235> anal 2016-05-03T03:14:09 < dongs> thats your problem 2016-05-03T03:14:12 < dongs> cockdi is fucking garbage 2016-05-03T03:14:17 < Rob235> what do you use 2016-05-03T03:14:22 < dongs> windows 2016-05-03T03:14:29 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-03T03:14:32 < dongs> ? what 2016-05-03T03:14:40 < Rob235> you just open it in a media player? 2016-05-03T03:14:43 < dongs> yes 2016-05-03T03:14:44 < Rob235> the file 2016-05-03T03:14:46 < Rob235> boring 2016-05-03T03:14:51 < Rob235> hard on an htpc 2016-05-03T03:14:55 < Rob235> I like using my xbox controller 2016-05-03T03:20:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T03:20:59 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-03T03:21:55 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T03:50:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T03:52:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T03:54:05 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T04:15:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-03T04:19:52 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tkt1aXq3kM charmed pets 2016-05-03T04:24:04 < kakimir> yes 2016-05-03T04:26:37 < kakimir> coffeine peak+ 2016-05-03T04:26:38 < kakimir> ? 2016-05-03T04:29:38 < jadew> lol ohsix 2016-05-03T04:30:22 < jadew> not much, working on something 2016-05-03T04:31:30 < kakimir> using electric motor in bicycle in not completelly heterosexual activity 2016-05-03T04:32:02 < jadew> was just thinking the other day about dishnoest people in various activities 2016-05-03T04:32:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T04:32:10 < jadew> including games and competitions 2016-05-03T04:32:18 < jadew> takes a special kind of mentality 2016-05-03T04:33:33 < jadew> like those faggots who are secretly teamed up from the begining 2016-05-03T04:33:54 < jadew> (in worms reloaded) 2016-05-03T04:34:48 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T04:35:03 < jadew> there really are two kinds of behaviours when two people who are friends play together with an unknown person 2016-05-03T04:35:25 < jadew> some keep that fact hidden, others are upfront and try to play fair 2016-05-03T04:37:05 < jadew> yeah, it's interresting how for some people the means doesn't matter 2016-05-03T04:38:12 < jadew> it's the kind of thing that makes you feel bad about yourself 2016-05-03T04:38:20 < jadew> even if you're the only one who knows it 2016-05-03T04:39:22 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T04:39:45 < jadew> people who don't feel that must not have a very good opinion about themselves, because if you hold yourself to any sort of moral standards, you simply can't bare doing "wrong" stuff for too long 2016-05-03T04:40:22 < jadew> and if you do, I think it chips away from your self esteem 2016-05-03T04:40:39 < jadew> until it's gone and you're fine with that behaviour 2016-05-03T04:40:59 < jadew> I should remember this, sounds like a good talk to have with my son 2016-05-03T04:41:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T04:42:43 < kakimir> ohsix: you have more that? 2016-05-03T04:42:59 < kakimir> thing you pasted 2016-05-03T04:44:12 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-03T04:44:49 < kakimir> ? 2016-05-03T04:45:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T04:46:01 < jadew> your pandora is very different from my pandora 2016-05-03T04:46:45 < jadew> what's that? 2016-05-03T04:47:13 < jadew> ah, I play it in the browser 2016-05-03T04:52:34 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T04:55:03 < kakimir> ohsix: I have dope songs in my favourites but I don't know 2016-05-03T04:55:24 < kakimir> time has passed.. I don't really feel like going back to 2012 2016-05-03T04:57:08 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.82.9] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-03T05:01:30 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-03T05:01:50 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T05:08:40 < kakimir> a tint of morphine 2016-05-03T05:11:49 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-03T05:12:24 < kakimir> good to know 2016-05-03T05:15:42 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T05:18:09 < kakimir> music can induce effects that are similar to opiates 2016-05-03T05:21:09 < kakimir> I should sleep but the sun is risin 2016-05-03T05:21:18 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-03T05:21:27 < kakimir> and it will get worse every day 2016-05-03T05:23:31 < kakimir> I have one such 2016-05-03T05:23:40 < kakimir> didn't understand the output 2016-05-03T05:47:30 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGGaVCCMgfw 2016-05-03T05:59:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T06:36:25 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has quit [Quit: Streaker] 2016-05-03T06:43:01 < Rob235> haha hmm.... I haven't compiled my project in days and have made a lot of changes... Just tried compiling it and got 61 errors :) 2016-05-03T07:05:09 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/5P5Rb9j.jpg 2016-05-03T07:05:51 < emeb_mac> just call him Baron Vladimir Harkonen 2016-05-03T07:06:07 < upgrdman> ohsix, cmsis has ~zero to do with periphs. there's no way arm could do that and have it work with the wide variety of periph abilities 2016-05-03T07:06:34 < upgrdman> iirc the only "periph" cmsis deals with are arm perips. like nvic 2016-05-03T07:11:22 < upgrdman> noise maybe? 2016-05-03T07:11:53 < upgrdman> noise inside a digital mcu might be noteworthy with a 200mV full-scale? 2016-05-03T07:15:52 -!- dongs [~dongs@bcas.tv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-03T07:22:46 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-03T07:24:36 -!- dongs [~dongs@bcas.tv] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T07:26:07 < upgrdman> typical night in australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_HAFsPooR4&feature=youtu.be 2016-05-03T07:28:58 < upgrdman> lol http://www.rock1053.com/articles/whats-trending-496955/woman-arrested-for-defecating-on-bosses-14668185/ 2016-05-03T07:31:51 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T07:33:06 < upgrdman> the internet says so, so it must be true 2016-05-03T07:38:09 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dldlpfhxtstrekof] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-03T07:38:38 < upgrdman> lolwut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5s39wUWPXM 2016-05-03T07:41:39 < upgrdman> lol no 2016-05-03T07:41:42 < upgrdman> r/wtf 2016-05-03T07:54:47 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T08:32:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-73b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T08:34:26 < upgrdman> not yet 2016-05-03T08:34:44 < upgrdman> its still so amazaballs compared to cn 2016-05-03T08:35:05 < upgrdman> 60Mbps at home, often <1Mbps in cn 2016-05-03T08:35:20 < upgrdman> and worse, the packet losses making it worse than dial up sometimes 2016-05-03T08:35:35 < upgrdman> this is kinda neat http://gearaward.com/?artistic 2016-05-03T08:35:53 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-03T08:37:09 < upgrdman> this one is fun http://soulwire.github.io/Coffee-Physics/ 2016-05-03T08:41:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:dc44:63fc:9d7b:23d7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T08:44:10 < upgrdman> nice 2016-05-03T08:44:21 < upgrdman> damn my surface bro4 is getting hot 2016-05-03T08:44:35 < upgrdman> webgl on my 4k monitor is reallying pushing the limits 2016-05-03T08:50:30 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@84-72-180-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T08:50:30 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@84-72-180-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-03T08:50:30 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T08:53:19 < emeb_mac> Janet? 2016-05-03T08:55:28 < emeb_mac> Brad is the male, Janet... 2016-05-03T09:01:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-73b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-03T09:06:30 < emeb_mac> ohsix: yeah - those are rather dated references 2016-05-03T09:24:33 -!- Shavik 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Martin90> but I see it isn't used at all 2016-05-03T13:02:13 < Martin90> btw, I also noticed that makefile is created by eclipse o.0 ? 2016-05-03T13:02:26 < Martin90> after or during first build 2016-05-03T13:02:53 < karlp> that's the first time you ementioned that you're using cube, or eclipse, or makefiles. 2016-05-03T13:03:18 < jpa-> that's also the point at which i feel the urge to leave the discussion :) 2016-05-03T13:04:19 < Martin90> jpa-: because of what :P ? 2016-05-03T13:04:36 < jpa-> because of cube, eclipse and startup_xx.s 2016-05-03T13:05:08 < Martin90> jpa-: I can agree on two first arguments but what's wrong with startup.s file ? 2016-05-03T13:05:16 < karlp> you don't need to use assembly startup files, 2016-05-03T13:05:20 < karlp> and st keeps pretending you do. 2016-05-03T13:05:22 < karlp> so fuck them 2016-05-03T13:06:04 < Martin90> hmm 2016-05-03T13:06:52 < jpa-> yep 2016-05-03T13:06:52 < Martin90> I use STM workbench 2016-05-03T13:07:35 < Martin90> I see that .s startup file sets up stack pointer , Reset_Handler and various differnt things 2016-05-03T13:08:36 < Martin90> what about i.e SP then ? 2016-05-03T13:08:59 < Martin90> SP = stack pointer 2016-05-03T13:09:06 < Martin90> reset handler 2016-05-03T13:09:09 < Martin90> etc 2016-05-03T13:10:20 < Martin90> how to set it up then ? 2016-05-03T13:10:25 < Martin90> With no startup 2016-05-03T13:11:29 < karlp> you can do the startup with .c 2016-05-03T13:12:40 < karlp> doing it with asm is pointless cargo culting that st should be publically shamed for 2016-05-03T13:13:42 < Martin90> ;] 2016-05-03T13:14:16 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T13:14:39 < Martin90> btw: I wonder what is the reason that they decided to write it in asm 2016-05-03T13:14:44 < Martin90> there must be some... 2016-05-03T13:14:52 < jpa-> reasons.. behind ST software? 2016-05-03T13:15:00 < jpa-> look up how they set the uart baudrate scaler 2016-05-03T13:15:11 < jpa-> then consider whether they have reasons behind what they do 2016-05-03T13:15:39 < karlp> they use .asm because they brought forward the same pile of cruft they used on arm-v5 and armv6 stuff that _did_ require asm. 2016-05-03T13:21:34 < Martin90> crt: but you use their products :P ? 2016-05-03T13:21:42 < Martin90> karlp: makes sense 2016-05-03T13:21:58 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T13:25:39 < Martin90> crt: maybe AVR will suit you better huh ? 2016-05-03T13:26:53 < Martin90> yes 2016-05-03T13:27:20 < Martin90> any advice ? 2016-05-03T13:28:37 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-03T13:28:50 < Martin90> "used" so you changed IDE ? 2016-05-03T13:29:26 < Martin90> I figured out why I was unable to spot any place where they sue that .s file 2016-05-03T13:45:01 < Martin90> huh ? 2016-05-03T13:45:14 < Martin90> what can I do ? 2016-05-03T13:45:15 < Martin90> :P 2016-05-03T13:45:44 < Martin90> work what ? 2016-05-03T13:46:22 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< Steffanx> You better alt+f4 mr crt 2016-05-03T14:26:09 -!- elektrinis-wrk [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T14:27:33 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T14:41:25 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T14:53:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T14:57:40 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T15:05:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T15:09:32 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T15:09:43 * mra90 off 2016-05-03T15:10:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.165] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T15:12:37 < mra90> crt: ? 2016-05-03T15:13:18 < englishman> getting started on stm32 isnt easy? wat 2016-05-03T15:13:29 < englishman> 1) open timecube, select chip and peripherals, click generate code 2016-05-03T15:13:37 < englishman> 2) open keil, click compile and upload to chip 2016-05-03T15:14:08 < englishman> 3) click debug, live debugging with breakponts and memory and peripheral maps 2016-05-03T15:14:36 < englishman> so hard to develop stm32 2016-05-03T15:14:37 < englishman> why even bother 2016-05-03T15:15:06 < englishman> now try comparing stm8 vs avr for even more fail 2016-05-03T15:15:18 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T15:17:50 < lorenzo> this dropbox thing is nice 2016-05-03T15:18:00 * lorenzo enters in 2010 2016-05-03T15:18:02 < englishman> bouht a cigar with all the money and time you saved using stm8 over avr? 2016-05-03T15:18:12 -!- Guest84007 is now known as neuro_sys 2016-05-03T15:18:17 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@212.111.40.93] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-03T15:18:17 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T15:22:39 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T15:23:26 < lorenzo> englishman: I wonder who is using AVRs commercially besides Arduino, I've never ever seen an AVR chip in a commercial design, just their SAM parts 2016-05-03T15:24:01 < lorenzo> they're insanely overpriced 2016-05-03T15:24:07 < lorenzo> their cheapest MCU with USB is 8$, cheapest PIC with USB is 1.5$ :/ 2016-05-03T15:24:31 < lorenzo> but there's IAR support and FreeRTOS support so there *must* be some commercial interest in 8-bit AVRs? 2016-05-03T15:25:33 -!- scrts_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T15:25:51 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-05-03T15:27:19 < Laurenceb_> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/03/bitcoin_craig_wright/ 2016-05-03T15:27:54 < Laurenceb_> lorenzo: I know a company that used to use attiny as verification id things in printer cartridges 2016-05-03T15:28:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T15:30:21 < Laurenceb_> holy shit lul 2016-05-03T15:30:22 < Laurenceb_> https://regmedia.co.uk/2016/05/03/bad_csw_code.png?x=648&y=508&infer_y=1 2016-05-03T15:32:45 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T15:36:23 < jpa-> lorenzo: they are not common in cheap consumer crap, but pretty popular in smaller volume products 2016-05-03T15:39:36 < Laurenceb_> these printer cartridges were consumer crap, but attiny seem to be more reasonably priced 2016-05-03T15:39:45 < Laurenceb_> also it was bare die and wire bonded 2016-05-03T15:40:15 < lorenzo> yeah I guess attiny can be had for cheaper than other identification devices (e.g. ds2502-48) 2016-05-03T15:40:39 < Laurenceb_> I've only ever seen AVR in china ESCs 2016-05-03T15:40:43 < lorenzo> attiny85 2.000: € 0,666 2016-05-03T15:40:48 < Laurenceb_> but more recently they use stm :P 2016-05-03T15:41:21 < Laurenceb_> lorenzo: they were paying < € 0,10 2016-05-03T15:41:53 < Laurenceb_> but this was bare die in units of 10M 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If I share folders in the root directory of a drive they count as different drives/mount points and copying from one folder to another actually copies the file and not just changes the reference. I'd have to create a folder in the root directory that holds the other folders and share that top folder to have it work correctly. 2016-05-03T17:20:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T17:32:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T17:33:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T17:46:40 < upgrdman> what refdes is used for LCDs 2016-05-03T17:47:59 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T17:51:23 < zyp> dongs, huh, had to pay VAT on the shit you sent me, that's a first 2016-05-03T17:52:07 < zyp> but thats ok, paid less than I would if I ordered shit directly here from mouser :p 2016-05-03T17:54:33 < zyp> upgrdman, P? since it's some sort of connector perhaps? 2016-05-03T17:56:13 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-03T18:00:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:04:33 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@2001:67c:10ec:3185:8000::10e9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:04:33 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@2001:67c:10ec:3185:8000::10e9] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-03T18:04:33 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:10:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-03T18:13:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:20:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-03T18:22:19 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:22:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:25:43 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T18:32:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T18:36:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T18:43:15 < Laurenceb> who is rewolff? 2016-05-03T18:43:36 < Laurenceb> and how did they get my email ?! 2016-05-03T18:48:03 < upgrdman> he's a user in here or ##electronics 2016-05-03T18:48:06 < upgrdman> name rings a bell 2016-05-03T18:53:27 < ReadError> any kikad wizards? 2016-05-03T18:53:51 < ReadError> how to find a part based on ref ? (R4) 2016-05-03T18:58:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.101] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T19:00:29 < scummos> ReadError: T in the layout editor 2016-05-03T19:00:33 < scummos> ctrl+f in schematic 2016-05-03T19:00:40 < scummos> or maybe there is a better key for schematic 2016-05-03T19:01:06 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-05-03T19:01:52 < ReadError> heh eeek 2016-05-03T19:01:57 < ReadError> thats was odd 2016-05-03T19:02:04 < ReadError> it selected it and moved it to my mouse 2016-05-03T19:02:11 < Laurenceb> oh its a github feature, very nice 2016-05-03T19:02:22 < Laurenceb> wondered how it ended up in my work email lol 2016-05-03T19:04:23 < ReadError> was it in the header of one of your files? 2016-05-03T19:04:41 < Laurenceb> it a github feature 2016-05-03T19:04:55 < Laurenceb> send messages via github 2016-05-03T19:06:45 < MightyPork> hi, anyone of you guys got orcad? 2016-05-03T19:07:20 < scummos> ReadError: yes it does that 2016-05-03T19:07:27 < scummos> you can press Esc to move it back though :D 2016-05-03T19:07:29 < ReadError> kind of a strange feature 2016-05-03T19:07:38 < scummos> it is very good for initial placement 2016-05-03T19:09:16 < MightyPork> trying to figure out if I can put text to "anti-etch" on OrCAD PCB. because manufacturer wants extra money for bottom silkscreen 2016-05-03T19:09:31 < MightyPork> guess you're all on kicad or something else right 2016-05-03T19:10:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-03T19:10:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T19:12:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-03T19:12:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T19:13:10 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-03T19:20:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T19:34:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T19:36:25 < Steffanx> yes MightyPork 2016-05-03T19:36:30 < Steffanx> kicad and something else :P 2016-05-03T19:37:08 < Steffanx> altium is fairly popular in ##stm32 it seems 2016-05-03T19:39:36 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-03T19:41:55 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T19:43:49 < lorenzo> http://www.macrumors.com/review/review-pryme-vessyl-smart-cup/ 2016-05-03T19:43:51 < lorenzo> innovating 2016-05-03T19:43:52 < lorenzo> the future 2016-05-03T19:52:11 < Rob235> sounds like it could have been made a lot better 2016-05-03T19:52:42 < Rob235> and how does it detect water levels with an accelerometer? 2016-05-03T19:54:14 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-03T19:55:29 < Rob235> oh is it just using it to determine sip size and assuming a full cup from the start? if so that's terrible 2016-05-03T19:55:38 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T19:55:47 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-03T19:56:44 < Rob235> or did it not mean to say that and it really only measures each sip 2016-05-03T19:57:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T19:58:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-03T19:58:18 < lorenzo> Rob235: I think it measures the amount of time the cup stays tilted 2016-05-03T19:58:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T19:58:50 < Rob235> so it doesn't know how much liquid is in there, which I guess doesn't matter anyway but would be a cool feature to show with the led line on the isde 2016-05-03T19:58:51 < Rob235> side* 2016-05-03T19:59:22 < Rob235> but still not feeling it, I guess I like the idea of starting the ball rolling on new product ideas though that will eventually be cool :) 2016-05-03T19:59:51 < Rob235> We need a big breakthrough in battery technology too 2016-05-03T20:00:26 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@96.53.88.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T20:00:32 < lorenzo> Rob235: or they could just make it transparent :p 2016-05-03T20:01:07 < Rob235> true, it is already glass, but the other way would look more futuristic :) 2016-05-03T20:01:58 < Rob235> and one of the problems is there's no insulation so you could add it to the other one 2016-05-03T20:04:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T20:05:10 < Rob235> alright, I'm high, stomach has settled, feel good, time to start coding. My goal is to get this flight controller ready by the time my package from hobbyking (china) gets here (which I need to finish wiring the hexacopter) 2016-05-03T20:10:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T20:22:57 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T20:27:30 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T20:28:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T20:35:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T20:40:34 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T20:41:16 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T20:47:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-03T20:51:20 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:03:24 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T21:04:35 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:05:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T21:14:43 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:20:05 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:22:30 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T21:23:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.159] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:24:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-03T21:30:06 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:34:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T21:38:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-03T21:38:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:02:35 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:03:03 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-03T22:03:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:05:46 < Rob235> you use ** for a pointer to a 2d array right? 2016-05-03T22:05:58 < Rob235> in c 2016-05-03T22:10:35 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lewbsojuzvqaqhbe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:13:13 < Steffanx> You can use it for that. 2016-05-03T22:14:04 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/XQExwoQ.png 2016-05-03T22:14:08 < ReadError> funny how this works 2016-05-03T22:14:27 < Rob235> 61 errors gone, a bit more finishing touches and then testing 2016-05-03T22:15:27 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:16:21 < Steffanx> how what works exactly mr ReadError? 2016-05-03T22:16:47 < ReadError> price tiering 2016-05-03T22:16:54 < Steffanx> oh. 2016-05-03T22:17:03 < ReadError> I wish they had the math more available 2016-05-03T22:17:25 < ReadError> but 7 panels is pretty much the same price as 4 2016-05-03T22:25:15 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:42:25 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: emeb 2016-05-03T22:42:42 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: kisielk, alan5, effractur, Frans-Willem, indy, kc2uez, CheBuzz, trepidacious, rewolff1, mitrax, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2016-05-03T22:43:01 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: kakimir, johntramp, dobson, Steffanx, XTL, DKordic, Shavik 2016-05-03T22:46:24 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T22:46:45 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- Guest29708 [~rager@ecsta.cc] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5355D614.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:25 -!- effractur [~Erik@hlm000.nl.z4p.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- funnel [~funnel@81.4.123.134] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- DKordic [~user@93-87-231-236.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:51:26 -!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T22:58:52 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-05-03T22:59:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-03T23:00:56 -!- funnel [~funnel@81.4.123.134] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-03T23:00:56 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-03T23:02:44 < lorenzo> btw what's a decent mail hosting today? 2016-05-03T23:04:31 < scummos> /usr/bin/postfix 2016-05-03T23:04:53 < lorenzo> no I don't want to manage it, I don't have the skills nor the time to acquire them 2016-05-03T23:04:57 < lorenzo> I'd rather have someone else do it for me 2016-05-03T23:05:15 < PaulFertser> And a server stable enough... 2016-05-03T23:05:26 < PaulFertser> lorenzo: riseup probably? 2016-05-03T23:05:37 < Steffanx> gmail :P 2016-05-03T23:05:38 < lorenzo> checking 2016-05-03T23:06:01 < Rob235> I like gmail 2016-05-03T23:06:01 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-03T23:06:25 < lorenzo> PaulFertser: hm seems like it takes an invite 2016-05-03T23:06:36 < PaulFertser> lorenzo: well, not too hard to get one 2016-05-03T23:06:42 < PaulFertser> It's pretty popular 2016-05-03T23:08:04 < Steffanx> and yet its not blocked by all the large companies yet? 2016-05-03T23:08:32 < PaulFertser> Why would it be blocked? Corporate firewalls? 2016-05-03T23:08:46 < Steffanx> More like anti-"rise up" 2016-05-03T23:09:44 < Steffanx> ohsex? 2016-05-03T23:09:57 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: I think it's not widely blocked and at the same time it's pretty popular. I'm surprised you haven't heard about this team/service before. 2016-05-03T23:10:47 < Rob235> FINALLY! pre-ordered the geekvape griffin 25 RTA a month ago and it finally came in and was shipped today 2016-05-03T23:11:20 < Steffanx> Nah, with services like that im just wondering how long it would exist if it would get really popular 2016-05-03T23:11:46 < Steffanx> with the nsa and crap and stories about services like that getting out of the business 2016-05-03T23:13:03 < ReadError> ohsix http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3766376/ 2016-05-03T23:13:48 < Steffanx> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you! 2016-05-03T23:14:24 < Steffanx> ( someone had to do it 0 2016-05-03T23:14:25 < Steffanx> ) 2016-05-03T23:15:07 < lorenzo> untrue, movie has been rendered on stm32f4 2016-05-03T23:15:41 < Steffanx> Only jappies would do that 2016-05-03T23:16:03 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7VTjuPx_s 2016-05-03T23:18:26 < ReadError> Steffanx sorry, sir 2016-05-03T23:19:09 < Steffanx> To earn my forgiveness you have to run three rounds around your house. 2016-05-03T23:22:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.51.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T23:26:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-03T23:34:27 < lorenzo> bah fuck it too difficult 2016-05-03T23:34:31 < lorenzo> I'll just make a gmail account 2016-05-03T23:34:57 < lorenzo> the company I work for gave me a Domino Mail account 2016-05-03T23:35:09 < lorenzo> with the whole IBM iNotes Lotus thing 2016-05-03T23:35:13 < lorenzo> worst piece of software I've used 2016-05-03T23:42:06 < mra90> how much I have to write to implement bare code for certain pin on/off 2016-05-03T23:42:28 < mra90> I mean write full code without use of any driver etc 2016-05-03T23:43:02 < mra90> wrong answer cube uses drivers 2016-05-03T23:43:15 < mra90> you misunderstood me 2016-05-03T23:43:27 < mra90> btw "w8" what is it ? 2016-05-03T23:43:43 < lorenzo> wait 2016-05-03T23:45:55 < lorenzo> mra90: what do you mean without use of any driver? 2016-05-03T23:46:12 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-03T23:46:15 < lorenzo> you'd have to include the .. includes for your device 2016-05-03T23:46:32 < lorenzo> then set the bits manually as in .. RCC->AHBENR for the gpio clock 2016-05-03T23:46:37 < mra90> lorenzo: I want to write everything from skreatch 2016-05-03T23:46:53 < lorenzo> GPIOE->MODER PUPDR at least, then BSRR/BRR 2016-05-03T23:47:30 < mra90> initialize MCU, GPIO port register etc 2016-05-03T23:47:41 < Sync> then start by writing the headers for the register addresses 2016-05-03T23:48:13 < mra90> Sync: yes for that that would I need all of registers ? 2016-05-03T23:48:19 < mra90> task* 2016-05-03T23:50:24 < lorenzo> mra90: I'd start by making a simple program that does nothing and then add in what Sync said, and start fiddling with registers 2016-05-03T23:50:29 < lorenzo> you'd have to define the vectors table manually 2016-05-03T23:50:37 < lorenzo> and write a proper linker script 2016-05-03T23:50:58 < mra90> lorenzo: I already have linker script written 2016-05-03T23:51:09 < mra90> what do you mean by "vectors table" ? 2016-05-03T23:51:26 < lorenzo> for nmi and hardfault handlers 2016-05-03T23:51:36 < mra90> and my simple main.c file compiles well 2016-05-03T23:51:50 < lorenzo> have you checked with openocd + gdb that it executes fine? 2016-05-03T23:51:58 < lorenzo> like, increment something and breakpoint 2016-05-03T23:52:11 < mra90> no I haven't yet 2016-05-03T23:52:39 < lorenzo> yeah spawn a gdb session, run the program, ctrl+c, print the variable 2016-05-03T23:52:59 < lorenzo> so you can check your device is actually executing code 2016-05-03T23:53:07 < mra90> good advice 2016-05-03T23:53:29 < mra90> but the very first thing in implementation should be clock init right ? 2016-05-03T23:54:01 < mra90> I am thinking here about MCU internals which have to be initialized before anything 2016-05-03T23:57:47 < lorenzo> mra90: I've never tried taking the function out, but iirc the power-on default is internal oscillator (HSI) 2016-05-03T23:58:13 < mra90> ohh yes 2016-05-03T23:58:15 < lorenzo> then if you want, you init the clock differently and update the SystemCoreClock 2016-05-03T23:58:26 < lorenzo> CMSIS SystemInit() takes care of these two things generally 2016-05-03T23:59:21 < lorenzo> mra90: check the datasheet for the microcontroller you're developing for 2016-05-03T23:59:30 < lorenzo> e.g. mine says "System clock selection is performed on startup, however the internal RC 8 MHz oscillator is 2016-05-03T23:59:30 < lorenzo> selected as default CPU clock on reset. An external 4-32 MHz clock can be selected, in 2016-05-03T23:59:30 < lorenzo> which case it is monitored for failure. If failure is detected, the system automatically switches 2016-05-03T23:59:30 < lorenzo> back to the internal RC oscillator." 2016-05-03T23:59:45 < lorenzo> (stm32f303k8t6) --- Day changed Wed May 04 2016 2016-05-04T00:00:52 < mra90> mhm, btw, I can't find any info about frist instruction fetch 2016-05-04T00:01:02 < mra90> I mean from what address it is fetched 2016-05-04T00:02:20 < lorenzo> do you have a startup.s? 2016-05-04T00:03:03 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T00:03:15 < mra90> yes 2016-05-04T00:03:32 < lorenzo> check the reset handler 2016-05-04T00:04:19 < lorenzo> it generally defines the stack top, then branches to the code entry point 2016-05-04T00:04:22 < lorenzo> which will be your main 2016-05-04T00:05:51 < lorenzo> mra90: .. . if I may ask .. besides from the pleasure of learning how it works :-) is there any particular reason you want to avoid any library/driver/bsp? 2016-05-04T00:05:51 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T00:06:12 < mra90> lorenzo: just pleasure of learning... ;) 2016-05-04T00:06:23 < mra90> is it bad attitude ? 2016-05-04T00:06:31 < lorenzo> no of course not 2016-05-04T00:06:41 < mra90> btw: do we need that .s file at all ? 2016-05-04T00:07:29 < lorenzo> what do you have in yours? 2016-05-04T00:07:49 < lorenzo> mra90: http://www.triplespark.net/elec/pdev/arm/stm32-minimalistic-hello-world-1.0.tar.gz maybe this will help 2016-05-04T00:07:57 < mra90> SP init reset hander etc 2016-05-04T00:08:31 < mra90> but beside that .s file MCU must start at someplace and this place is hardware specyfis isn;t it ? 2016-05-04T00:08:40 < mra90> specific* 2016-05-04T00:10:34 < lorenzo> hm the flash generally starts at 0x08000000 2016-05-04T00:10:43 < lorenzo> datasheet has a nice table with the addresses 2016-05-04T00:11:05 < mra90> yes but does DS say where's the first inst fetch ? 2016-05-04T00:12:09 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-04T00:12:17 < ReadError> ohsix http://www.ebay.com/itm/CX-30W-Mobile-Edition-WIFI-Controlled-Quadrocopter-without-Transmitter-SL-/162053733518 2016-05-04T00:12:33 < ReadError> always looking for ebay crap to buy 2016-05-04T00:13:16 < mra90> lorenzo: that reset handler also aplies to power on right ? 2016-05-04T00:13:26 < lorenzo> mra90: I think you can choose what is mapped at 0x00 which can be ram or rom 2016-05-04T00:13:32 < lorenzo> you generally have e.g. in your .ld 2016-05-04T00:13:38 < lorenzo> rom (rx) : ORIGIN = 0x00000000, LENGTH = 128K 2016-05-04T00:14:10 < lorenzo> then how you make use of that space, up to 0x20000000 is defined in the SECTIONS 2016-05-04T00:15:31 < mra90> lorenzo: I think there is something called Boot configuration in manual (i am sure you have such section) 2016-05-04T00:15:44 < mra90> and they say that in default boot mode MCU start from FLASH memory 2016-05-04T00:15:53 < mra90> *starts 2016-05-04T00:17:52 < lorenzo> yeah it's in the "Getting started" 2016-05-04T00:18:09 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lewbsojuzvqaqhbe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-04T00:18:53 < lorenzo> mra90: there's an important note there 2016-05-04T00:19:03 < mra90> which one ? 2016-05-04T00:19:04 < lorenzo> flash (0x08000000) is aliased in the boot memory space (0x00) 2016-05-04T00:19:16 < lorenzo> that's the mode you want I think 2016-05-04T00:19:45 < mra90> what does it mean that it is aliased ? 2016-05-04T00:20:20 < lorenzo> that fetching 0x00000001 equals fetching 0x08000001 2016-05-04T00:21:06 < mra90> hmm I wander about something else 2016-05-04T00:21:20 < mra90> how is that possible to set boot from RAM o.0 2016-05-04T00:21:43 < mra90> there will be only trash 2016-05-04T00:22:08 < mra90> how do you think about it ? 2016-05-04T00:22:47 < lorenzo> I'm not sure, I think it's something you do after the first power-on 2016-05-04T00:22:55 < lorenzo> that is, you copy something into SRAM (e.g. a bootloader) 2016-05-04T00:23:07 < lorenzo> reboot from that, and use the bootloader in SRAM to write on flash the new one 2016-05-04T00:23:13 < lorenzo> or something similar, no idea, it's my best guess 2016-05-04T00:23:19 < karlp> fuck clock init, just run from the reset clock. 2016-05-04T00:25:00 < mra90> btw, what is "NVIC" ? 2016-05-04T00:25:10 < scummos> nested vector interrupt controller 2016-05-04T00:25:15 * scummos disappears into the void again 2016-05-04T00:27:49 < mra90> scummos: thanks ;) 2016-05-04T00:27:54 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-04T00:27:58 < lorenzo> mra90: it's the part of your microcontroller which handles interrupts, it's very important, since it takes care of systick, of EXTI and of peripherals 2016-05-04T00:28:21 < lorenzo> although you probably won't need any of these for now 2016-05-04T00:28:54 < mra90> I am not sure,I found such info: "When the device boots from SRAM, in the application initialization code, you have to 2016-05-04T00:28:54 < mra90> relocate the vector table in SRAM using the NVIC exception table and the offset register" 2016-05-04T00:29:07 < karlp> mra90: ur doin it wrong.. 2016-05-04T00:29:09 < mra90> what does it mean to you ? 2016-05-04T00:29:29 < mra90> karlp: pasting ? 2016-05-04T00:30:32 < karlp> if you're trying to learn fo rthe sake of it, go from better sources than st example code. 2016-05-04T00:30:40 < karlp> if you're trying to get things done, just use the examples and move on. 2016-05-04T00:30:51 < karlp> tryign to go somewhere in the middle is going to cause you pain and hardship 2016-05-04T00:33:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T00:34:35 < lorenzo> mra90: I think by "offset register" they mean TBLBASE 2016-05-04T00:34:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-04T00:34:55 < lorenzo> which is a .. bit .. which picks if the vector table is in code or in sram memory region 2016-05-04T00:35:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T00:35:05 < lorenzo> Bits 29:9 TBLOFF: Vector table base offset field. 2016-05-04T00:35:08 < lorenzo> Bit 29 determines whether the vector table is in the code or SRAM memory region. 2016-05-04T00:35:20 < lorenzo> see DM00046982.pdf 4.4.4 2016-05-04T00:35:47 < mra90> karlp: "go from better sources than st example code" hah ok but what instead of ST examples ? 2016-05-04T00:36:18 < lorenzo> mra90: https://leanpub.com/mastering-stm32 this is a really good book 2016-05-04T00:37:05 < mra90> lorenzo: this book isn't finished yet ;P 2016-05-04T00:37:29 < lorenzo> it's fairly comprehensive already (478 pages, no bullshit) 2016-05-04T00:37:41 < lorenzo> if you want something more generic on m3/m4 there's Joseph Yiu manuals 2016-05-04T00:37:59 < lorenzo> http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=arm+cortex-m3&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def 2016-05-04T00:38:01 < lorenzo> enjoy 2016-05-04T00:39:06 < karlp> or, arm TRM and programming manual. 2016-05-04T00:39:13 < karlp> and the st ref man and programmin manual 2016-05-04T00:40:14 < mra90> sorry, " arm TRM" 2016-05-04T00:40:18 < mra90> ? 2016-05-04T00:40:26 < lorenzo> technical ref manual 2016-05-04T00:40:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T00:41:07 < mra90> ahho k ;) 2016-05-04T00:42:34 -!- kuldeep__ is now known as kuldeep 2016-05-04T00:42:37 < mra90> but still booting from SRAM sounds weird to me ;P 2016-05-04T00:43:08 < mra90> I mean booting as really the very first instruction fetcj 2016-05-04T00:43:37 < karlp> read about the reset modes of your device. 2016-05-04T00:43:43 < karlp> learn abotu what it does when it leaves reset. 2016-05-04T00:44:28 < mra90> ok 2016-05-04T00:44:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T00:44:29 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-04T00:44:36 < mra90> Thank you guys ;) 2016-05-04T00:47:35 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T00:47:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T00:47:46 < Laurenceb_> >turn on horsey logger 2016-05-04T00:48:01 < Laurenceb_> > it locks up and gets killed by watchdog within 2 minutes 2016-05-04T00:48:14 < Laurenceb_> > hook up to st-link and wait for another fault 2016-05-04T00:48:19 < Laurenceb_> > 14 hours later... 2016-05-04T00:50:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T00:57:33 < zyp> well, duh 2016-05-04T00:57:42 < zyp> connecting a debugger disables all bugs, don't you know that? 2016-05-04T00:58:31 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-04T01:02:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-04T01:02:46 -!- __rob [~rob@host109-153-137-249.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T01:02:56 < __rob> how much current does nrst sink ? 2016-05-04T01:03:28 < __rob> I have a reset network with one of these driving the stm32 nrst 2016-05-04T01:03:28 < __rob> http://www.nxp.com/products/discretes-and-logic/logic/lvc/single-2-input-and-gate:74LVC1G08 2016-05-04T01:03:53 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T01:03:53 < __rob> and for some reason the line is only going to 2.64v 2016-05-04T01:05:25 < __rob> https://snag.gy/70sjBP.jpg 2016-05-04T01:05:40 < __rob> suggests that it if there is significat current drawn it wont go up to vcc 2016-05-04T01:05:58 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/YmJNBOr 2016-05-04T01:06:08 < Laurenceb_> its in the datasheet __rob 2016-05-04T01:07:12 < __rob> yea, cant find it 2016-05-04T01:07:13 < __rob> looking 2016-05-04T01:07:39 < __rob> the nrst pin characteristics say the internal pullup equivalent 2016-05-04T01:08:04 < __rob> which is min 30k 2016-05-04T01:08:30 < Laurenceb_> sounds about right 2016-05-04T01:08:44 < __rob> yea, so that shouldn't load the gate 2016-05-04T01:08:58 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/tEM0vyJ 2016-05-04T01:09:12 < __rob> 0.1ma across that resistor 2016-05-04T01:09:55 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-qlphwskydnemmdyu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T01:10:11 < __rob> the first past above says vcc-0.1 for < 100uA 2016-05-04T01:10:58 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-greoqbjnbrsgtepr] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T01:13:59 < zyp> dongs, nfc readers seems to work nicely this time 2016-05-04T01:14:11 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undercut_%28hairstyle%29#Revival dat last sentence 2016-05-04T01:15:31 < lorenzo> lol emos 2016-05-04T01:18:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T01:19:55 < karlp> zyp: this is the "tuned" version after fixing your antenna? 2016-05-04T01:20:56 < zyp> yeah, just added 180p in parallel 2016-05-04T01:22:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T01:22:54 < zyp> probably far from perfect, but it's good enough to read cards through my desk 2016-05-04T01:23:17 < zyp> and I don't really need more than good enough :p 2016-05-04T01:29:29 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-04T01:33:22 -!- Shavik is now known as Shavik|afk 2016-05-04T01:47:19 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@96.53.88.234] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 1.0.1"] 2016-05-04T01:48:18 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/kpBmbq4.jpg 2016-05-04T01:50:50 < Laurenceb_> st/pol/32 2016-05-04T01:58:21 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-04T01:59:11 < Laurenceb_> oh noes 2016-05-04T02:00:14 < Laurenceb_> copy my github? 2016-05-04T02:00:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-04T02:00:34 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/AulsbB4 2016-05-04T02:08:13 < Laurenceb_> lul Trumped 2016-05-04T02:08:37 < Laurenceb_> 55% 2016-05-04T02:09:25 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-04T02:09:50 < Laurenceb_> the people responsible for the Trumpening 2016-05-04T02:10:52 < Laurenceb_> he is the /pol/ candidate 2016-05-04T02:11:12 < Laurenceb_> he has reposed /pol/ memes and screenshots on his twitter 2016-05-04T02:15:07 < __rob> umm, just took off everything from nrst and put the scope on the pin 2016-05-04T02:15:15 < __rob> and I see a pulse when connecting with the stlink 2016-05-04T02:15:24 < __rob> I thought this pin was input only 2016-05-04T02:15:41 < __rob> looks like its trying to drive it low, but not able too 2016-05-04T02:15:50 < __rob> so programmer gives up 2016-05-04T02:16:14 < __rob> if i manually get the and gate to go 0v and then back to vcc 2016-05-04T02:16:42 < __rob> yes 2016-05-04T02:16:55 < __rob> I had nrst driven from an and gate 2016-05-04T02:17:06 < __rob> turns out it trys to pull the pin low.. 2016-05-04T02:17:09 < __rob> on programming 2016-05-04T02:17:13 < __rob> no idea why 2016-05-04T02:17:39 < Thorn> a programmer can pull it low 2016-05-04T02:17:40 < __rob> the stm32 itself I mean with nothing connected to NRST 2016-05-04T02:17:52 < Thorn> the target won't, it's an input 2016-05-04T02:17:57 < __rob> no, it does 2016-05-04T02:18:03 < __rob> I've just stuck the scope on the pin 2016-05-04T02:18:13 < __rob> it gets pulled to 0 2016-05-04T02:18:18 < __rob> then back up 2016-05-04T02:18:20 < Thorn> with the stlink connected? 2016-05-04T02:18:26 < __rob> yes, but nothing connected to nrst 2016-05-04T02:18:27 < __rob> just swd 2016-05-04T02:18:41 < __rob> so swclk swdio vcc gnd 2016-05-04T02:18:54 < __rob> nrst is only connected to the scope probe 2016-05-04T02:18:57 < Thorn> are you sure? 2016-05-04T02:19:34 < __rob> yea 2016-05-04T02:19:58 < Thorn> use a dmm in continuity mode, put a probe onto nrst, run the other probe across the programming connector or something 2016-05-04T02:20:35 < __rob> yea, nothing 2016-05-04T02:21:01 < __rob> it would explain why when starting to connect with stlink, the and get goes to 2.64v on the output 2016-05-04T02:21:16 < __rob> looks like the stm32 is trying to do that pulse, and getting stuck not being able to drive it to 9 2016-05-04T02:21:21 < __rob> 0* 2016-05-04T02:21:52 < __rob> and gate says it can source < 30ma 2016-05-04T02:22:19 < __rob> i'll put a series resistor I guess and see if it works then... 2016-05-04T02:22:29 < __rob> but why I am seeing a pulse on the nrst line i'd like to know 2016-05-04T02:27:45 < lorenzo> ohsix: ah nice, I guess we tear down different shit :D 2016-05-04T02:30:28 < __rob> works with series resistor from the and gate 2016-05-04T02:30:35 < __rob> what a fucking mess 2016-05-04T02:30:50 < __rob> since when was nrst on the mcu able to pulse low 2016-05-04T02:31:51 < Thorn> what does the pulse look like? is it square? 2016-05-04T02:32:00 < __rob> yes 2016-05-04T02:32:10 -!- Mustafa_ [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T02:32:11 < __rob> I'll take a photo 2016-05-04T02:33:12 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE876BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T02:37:08 < __rob> https://i.snag.gy/4ATp15.jpg 2016-05-04T02:37:58 < __rob> https://i.snag.gy/obgFmy.jpg 2016-05-04T02:38:04 < __rob> I've removed everything on nrst 2016-05-04T02:38:14 < __rob> only thing connected is the stm32 2016-05-04T02:38:26 < __rob> and that is when I initiate programming, without nrst connected to the programmer 2016-05-04T02:39:42 < __rob> I guess if you only have pull ups on your reset line then that pulse would reset everything on your reset network.. maybe thats why 2016-05-04T02:39:56 < __rob> so all peripheral chips would be in default state aswell 2016-05-04T02:42:37 < __rob> "NRST Bidirectional reset pin with embedded weak pull-up resistor" 2016-05-04T02:42:56 < __rob> well now I know.. 2016-05-04T02:44:37 < __rob> well, looking for best way to work in a 0402 resistor 2016-05-04T02:44:57 < __rob> might cut off part of the and gate pin and stick it in there 2016-05-04T02:45:53 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-04T02:46:11 < Thorn> ok wtf fig 5 on page 10 http://documents.rs-components.com/EITC/UK/electronics/an2586.pdf 2016-05-04T02:46:26 < Thorn> >pulse generator (min 20us) 2016-05-04T02:50:33 < Thorn> why does it have to pull the pin itself 2016-05-04T02:52:25 < __rob> its done internally Thorn 2016-05-04T02:52:47 < __rob> no idea why tho, surely that is what NRST is for on the programmer 2016-05-04T02:53:14 < __rob> but I guess it means the stm32 can reset the whole board without resetting itself 2016-05-04T02:54:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T02:55:16 < Thorn> yes but why does that one-shot pull down the nrst pin rather than the internal signal? 2016-05-04T02:56:07 < Thorn> signal called "System reset" in that figure 2016-05-04T02:57:24 < __rob> it'd call it strange and unexpected 2016-05-04T02:57:39 < Thorn> that's the problem, what if something else needs a longer pulse 2016-05-04T02:57:47 < Thorn> or a more complex reset sequence 2016-05-04T02:58:21 < __rob> ohh well got half these boards back with tenting misssing on the vias 2016-05-04T02:58:29 < __rob> good excuse to get some more (with a fix) 2016-05-04T02:59:18 < __rob> yea.. 2016-05-04T03:03:43 < Laurenceb_> what the point of tented vias? 2016-05-04T03:04:52 < __rob> stop shorts ? 2016-05-04T03:05:01 < __rob> if you have vias packed close to pads 2016-05-04T03:05:46 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/7bvTMOk 2016-05-04T03:08:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-04T03:09:47 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T03:12:20 < __rob> fixed 2016-05-04T03:12:29 < __rob> scratched & cut trace and a resistor on it 2016-05-04T03:12:43 < __rob> you'd never know ! 2016-05-04T03:13:26 < ReadError> yea ordered one and it shipped 2016-05-04T03:15:28 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T03:17:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T03:18:46 < Thorn> looks like I found a hakko t14 sect. people order a compatible handle, ebay kit controller and a bunch of tips (china cloned) and make a soldering station 2016-05-04T03:18:55 < Thorn> like http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Controller-Kits-for-HAKKO-T12-Handle-/271957255619 2016-05-04T03:19:00 < Thorn> what is the point 2016-05-04T03:23:04 < Thorn> controllers have settable PID parameters / reference voltage / sleep time etc. 2016-05-04T03:24:56 < Thorn> s/t14/t12/ 2016-05-04T03:30:01 < Thorn> http://i.imgur.com/d8fM5.jpg 2016-05-04T03:30:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-04T03:30:58 < ReadError> ohsix sure it uses another tx? 2016-05-04T03:34:03 < ReadError> With dual mode can use the Iphone mobile and transmitter to control 2016-05-04T03:34:04 < ReadError> WIFI signal controlled For Iphone 2016-05-04T03:34:04 < ReadError> Pictures and videos can stored in the mobile directly 2016-05-04T03:35:19 < dongs> zyp, cool 2016-05-04T03:35:24 < dongs> zyp - maybe the fucking intel evalboad trash 2016-05-04T03:35:36 < dongs> where before it was always 'pcb assembly service' 2016-05-04T03:35:45 < dongs> how much did they ding you? 2016-05-04T03:36:15 < dongs> so should I buy this leaf batt pack jus for lulz and part it out and use the modules for random stuff? http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f177305919 2016-05-04T03:36:50 < ReadError> dongs 2016-05-04T03:36:51 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CX-30W-Mobile-Edition-WIFI-Controlled-Quadrocopter-without-Transmitter-SL-/162053733518 2016-05-04T03:37:03 < ReadError> 6$ zano 2016-05-04T03:37:07 < dongs> loll 2016-05-04T03:37:08 < dongs> wow 2016-05-04T03:37:16 < ReadError> 'ohsix yes yes re: battery pack' 2016-05-04T03:37:21 < ReadError> says yes* 2016-05-04T03:37:30 < dongs> why would i give a fuck waht ohsix says 2016-05-04T03:37:48 < ReadError> idk 2016-05-04T03:37:52 < ReadError> i got a 6$ zano tho 2016-05-04T03:38:14 < dongs> is without transmitter mean without camera module 2016-05-04T03:38:22 < ReadError> uses cellphone 2016-05-04T03:39:21 < dongs> no i mean 2016-05-04T03:40:16 < dongs> its just a quad, without wifi camera part. 2016-05-04T03:40:24 < dongs> but watever, for $6 i ordered one 2016-05-04T03:40:32 < dongs> probl scam'd 2016-05-04T03:40:40 < ReadError> mine shipped 2016-05-04T03:40:47 < ReadError> nah I think you *can* use a TX 2016-05-04T03:40:54 < ReadError> but it can be controlled via phone too 2016-05-04T03:41:13 < ReadError> w/e its 6$ i figured might as well see what comes 2016-05-04T03:42:12 < dongs> sames 2016-05-04T03:42:45 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/X2212-2212-KV2450-2450-Brushless-Motor-For-RC-Airplane-Quadcopter-SL/162053876387 2016-05-04T03:42:51 < ReadError> also been a flood of these shits today 2016-05-04T03:43:00 < ReadError> 3.31 motor, sunnysky 2016-05-04T03:43:10 < dongs> shittysky 2016-05-04T03:43:12 < dongs> nice price 2016-05-04T03:43:22 < dongs> finally theyre at the acutal price the shit should be at 2016-05-04T03:43:27 < ReadError> ya odd kv but can have fun with that 2016-05-04T03:46:05 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162051610224?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 2016-05-04T03:46:10 < ReadError> nicceee 2016-05-04T03:47:47 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ucdfitccjnobnmdt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T03:50:28 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.114.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T03:51:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T03:57:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-04T03:58:44 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T03:58:45 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:02:47 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:07:34 < ReadError> yay 2016-05-04T04:07:43 < ReadError> my korean let me add 2 extra panels for 10$ each 2016-05-04T04:07:54 < ReadError> and hes doing ENIG for me <3 <3 2016-05-04T04:14:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T04:14:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d43c38.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:16:27 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.114.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T04:16:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:25:12 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d41040.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:28:14 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 1.0.1"] 2016-05-04T04:28:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d43c38.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-04T04:31:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:54:31 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:54:41 < machinehum> Is anyone using GCC ARM? 2016-05-04T04:54:45 < machinehum> w/ debian 2016-05-04T04:55:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T04:57:13 < upgrdman> mmm i think i finally figured out why my surface dock doesnt like my usb3 hdd. seems like the hdd draws very close to the borderline limit of the hub and it's OCP is triggering. with a usb power meter it sometimes draws 1.2A then voltage drops and then goes to zero, then it recovers. 2016-05-04T04:57:25 < upgrdman> guess i could try one of those y cables to spread my load around 2016-05-04T04:57:57 < machinehum> https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded 2016-05-04T04:58:13 < machinehum> Will those bins work with an x64 machine? 2016-05-04T04:58:17 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d41040.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-04T04:59:37 < upgrdman> machinehum, yes 2016-05-04T05:00:26 < upgrdman> here's my old notes, but it worked without any hiccups on 64bit linuxmint http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2014-06-14_Complete_STM32F0_Development_Environment/ 2016-05-04T05:00:42 < machinehum> bash: ./arm-none-eabi-gcc: No such file or directory 2016-05-04T05:01:03 < machinehum> when I cd into the bin dir 2016-05-04T05:03:40 < ReadError> check ur path 2016-05-04T05:05:02 < machinehum> Yeah it's pointing somewhere strange 2016-05-04T05:05:02 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T05:05:04 < ReadError> ohsix someone posted a link 2016-05-04T05:05:07 < ReadError> then i found the motors 2016-05-04T05:05:19 < ReadError> i duno whats up with the prices 2016-05-04T05:05:31 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T05:06:19 < machinehum> But if I'm in the directory shouldn't it execute from there? 2016-05-04T05:07:02 < machinehum> I've used ./ 2016-05-04T05:07:38 < upgrdman> lolwut on amazon.com listing for dell 4k monitor: "Product Alert: IPS (In-Plane-Switching) is a technology for LCD displays that offers users wider viewing angles and bolder colors by allowing more light to pass through the panel. As a result, IPS panels can exhibit a slight glow around the edges and corners (also known as light bleed), which is entirely normal. " 2016-05-04T05:08:09 < upgrdman> machinehum, ls -l 2016-05-04T05:08:15 < upgrdman> check for executable perms 2016-05-04T05:09:29 < machinehum> -rwxr-xr-x 2016-05-04T05:09:37 < machinehum> 3 x's 2016-05-04T05:10:42 < upgrdman> dunno 2016-05-04T05:10:43 < ReadError> run 'file arm-none-eabi-gcc' 2016-05-04T05:10:54 < ReadError> ive had similar issues w/ architecture differences 2016-05-04T05:10:58 < ReadError> idk why 2016-05-04T05:12:41 < machinehum> rm-none-eabi-gcc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped 2016-05-04T05:12:49 < machinehum> That's also a neat trick 2016-05-04T05:12:54 < machinehum> I'm writing that one down 2016-05-04T05:13:15 < machinehum> but yeah x86 :( 2016-05-04T05:13:17 < ReadError> ya sounds like its gonna be something w/ that 2016-05-04T05:13:25 < machinehum> That's what I figured the problem would be 2016-05-04T05:15:53 < machinehum> So just build the source myself I guess? 2016-05-04T05:17:20 < machinehum> hmm or, actually what about grabing the x64 bins for Unbuntu 2016-05-04T05:17:29 < machinehum> Ubuntu was forked from Debian eh? 2016-05-04T05:19:32 < ReadError> theres something you can install 2016-05-04T05:19:34 < ReadError> to make it work 2016-05-04T05:19:52 < machinehum> oh serious? 2016-05-04T05:19:54 < ReadError> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12956/how-do-i-run-32-bit-programs-on-a-64-bit-debian-ubuntu 2016-05-04T05:20:04 < ReadError> ia32-libs 2016-05-04T05:26:56 < machinehum> oh wow 2016-05-04T05:27:06 < machinehum> money, thanks, I wonder how stable it will be 2016-05-04T05:27:34 < machinehum> btw ia32-libs are depricated lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 2016-05-04T05:27:37 < machinehum> to replace 2016-05-04T05:30:12 < upgrdman> ohsix, i think its regarding what i noticed and bitched up a while ago 2016-05-04T05:30:23 < upgrdman> like, on apple displays, shits fucking beautiful 2016-05-04T05:30:31 < upgrdman> but on everyone elses, the black isnt so black 2016-05-04T05:30:43 < upgrdman> guessing it has to do with glossy or matte surface, but dunno 2016-05-04T05:33:52 < ReadError> machinehum its fine 2016-05-04T05:34:01 < ReadError> i had to do the same thing on mint 2016-05-04T05:34:08 < machinehum> :) 2016-05-04T05:44:06 < upgrdman> ohsix, i used a ppa because the one outside the ppa was old or broken 2016-05-04T05:44:10 < upgrdman> i forget which 2016-05-04T05:44:18 < upgrdman> but that was in 2014. like i said, old notes 2016-05-04T05:44:34 < upgrdman> these days i do ~everything in windows 2016-05-04T05:44:47 < upgrdman> i only get my fix of lunix when dicking with my pi's 2016-05-04T05:45:09 < ReadError> ohsix this Documentary Now! shit lol 2016-05-04T05:45:26 < ReadError> started on 1 2016-05-04T05:46:17 < ReadError> thats ep1 2016-05-04T05:46:33 < ReadError> not seen the real thing 2016-05-04T05:52:00 < ReadError> lol they cant keep straight 2016-05-04T05:58:15 < ReadError> idk SNL hasnt been good in 10+ years 2016-05-04T05:58:23 < ReadError> i dont even bother 2016-05-04T06:00:58 < ReadError> wish the good dailyshow was still on 2016-05-04T06:05:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-04T06:16:07 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-04T06:20:30 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T06:21:52 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T06:22:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T06:42:08 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d41040.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T07:28:09 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ucdfitccjnobnmdt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-04T07:28:13 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T07:39:04 < ReadError> i dont 2016-05-04T07:39:09 < ReadError> i dont use google play though 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usb connectors looks decent 2016-05-04T10:24:30 < dongs> zyp, yeah they're same plug-end as far as i know, just different bottom 2016-05-04T10:26:07 < jpa-> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/integrated-circuits-ics/embedded-microcontrollers/2556109?k=STM32F405RGT6 hmm interesting, W appears also 2016-05-04T10:26:49 < dongs> oh hm wat 2016-05-04T10:27:08 < dongs> its more expesnive at bulk price, weird 2016-05-04T10:27:13 < dongs> but its not temp spec so what is it then 2016-05-04T10:28:18 < dongs> For a list of available options (speed, package, etc.) or for further information on any aspect 2016-05-04T10:28:21 < dongs> of this device, please contact your nearest ST sales office. 2016-05-04T10:33:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.154] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T10:43:36 < zyp> since they are nonstock and not in stock, maybe they were special orders for a single customer 2016-05-04T10:44:37 < zyp> hmm, nah, they're available at mouser and farnell as well 2016-05-04T10:46:15 < zyp> http://www2.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/microcontrollers/stm32-32-bit-arm-cortex-mcus/stm32f4-series/stm32f405-415/stm32f405rg.html <- V and W are even listed here 2016-05-04T11:10:32 < ReadError> cant find where i put my tagconnect cable 2016-05-04T11:10:35 < ReadError> D: 2016-05-04T11:15:07 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-04T11:15:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T11:21:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T11:24:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-05-04T11:34:54 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T11:39:10 < jpa-> http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-/201529768817 because everything is better when it is "for arduino" 2016-05-04T11:40:47 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T11:50:37 < dongs> < zyp> hmm, nah, they're available at mouser and farnell as well 2016-05-04T11:50:40 < dongs> so waht does V mean 2016-05-04T11:51:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T11:52:35 < jpa-> V for vendetta? 2016-05-04T11:54:19 < ReadError> unf found it only took 40 mins 2016-05-04T11:55:51 < zyp> dongs, no idea 2016-05-04T12:05:00 < ReadError> dongs no way to easily enable unsigned driver install win10? 2016-05-04T12:05:11 < dongs> no idea. 2016-05-04T12:05:13 < ReadError> everything involves trying to get into safemode and dicking around 2016-05-04T12:05:13 < dongs> i sign my drivers. 2016-05-04T12:05:29 < dongs> i could charge you 10bux to sign yours i sppose 2016-05-04T12:05:33 < dongs> is it a shitty driver 2016-05-04T12:05:38 < dongs> or just a dumb vendor? 2016-05-04T12:05:41 < ReadError> lol its libusb 2016-05-04T12:05:50 < dongs> lol 2016-05-04T12:05:53 < dongs> fucking opensores jesus fuck 2016-05-04T12:05:57 < dongs> why havent they signed it by now.??!?!?!? 2016-05-04T12:06:01 < ReadError> some shit man... 2016-05-04T12:06:08 < ReadError> so much uses it though 2016-05-04T12:08:40 < zyp> uh 2016-05-04T12:08:59 < zyp> on windows, libusb can run on top of winusb 2016-05-04T12:09:28 < ReadError> I ran the installer, it says select your device, I did and it bitched about unsigned drivers 2016-05-04T12:09:40 < zyp> what device? 2016-05-04T12:09:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:602e:f15d:813f:6262] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T12:09:58 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/IOL0/vmware-2016-05-04-05-09-39.png 2016-05-04T12:10:00 < ReadError> mkii 2016-05-04T12:10:13 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T12:10:15 < ReadError> i should just get atmel studio but avrdude needs libusb 2016-05-04T12:10:30 < dongs> what 2016-05-04T12:10:32 < dongs> moron 2016-05-04T12:10:41 < zyp> oh, haha 2016-05-04T12:10:46 < dongs> why would you use real avr-isp with fucking libusb 2016-05-04T12:10:46 < ReadError> what 2016-05-04T12:11:01 < ReadError> because I need to test something 2016-05-04T12:11:11 < ReadError> I have atmel studio and that works 2016-05-04T12:11:22 < dongs> ? 2016-05-04T12:11:31 < dongs> use the stk500.exe command line 2016-05-04T12:11:36 < dongs> that uses avr-isp real driver 2016-05-04T12:11:43 < zyp> can't you just run zadig and use that to bind the device to winusb? 2016-05-04T12:11:51 < ReadError> zyp thats what ive used in the past 2016-05-04T12:11:58 < ReadError> first time i got a link to this installer... 2016-05-04T12:12:02 < ReadError> but it was on the avrdude page 2016-05-04T12:12:06 < dongs> again WHY 2016-05-04T12:12:12 < dongs> use atmel driver + stk500.exe 2016-05-04T12:12:15 < ReadError> I NEED TO MAKE SOME INSTRUCTIONS 2016-05-04T12:12:16 < dongs> skip avrdude alltogether 2016-05-04T12:12:19 < ReadError> and make sure something works 2016-05-04T12:12:21 < dongs> then use some $1 usbasp trash 2016-05-04T12:12:26 < dongs> dont fuck your box up with shit drivers 2016-05-04T12:12:31 < ReadError> i have that too 2016-05-04T12:12:37 < dongs> once libusb is installed your system is fukd 2016-05-04T12:12:42 < dongs> cuz they install a filter driver on top of every usb drvice 2016-05-04T12:12:44 < ReadError> just testing firmware, using atmel studio fuckit 2016-05-04T12:12:50 < zyp> dongs, uh, no 2016-05-04T12:12:52 < dongs> uh yes 2016-05-04T12:13:01 < dongs> thats how they can connect to any device 2016-05-04T12:13:30 < zyp> last I used libusb on windows, it couldn't connect to any device 2016-05-04T12:13:36 < zyp> just devices already bound to winusb 2016-05-04T12:14:02 < dongs> last i did, it did 2016-05-04T12:14:07 < dongs> which was yearsa ago 2016-05-04T12:14:19 < dongs> https://sourceforge.net/p/libusb-win32/wiki/Home/ 2016-05-04T12:14:22 < zyp> might be, I know there's multiple backends for windows 2016-05-04T12:14:28 < dongs> Features: 2016-05-04T12:14:28 < dongs> Can be used as a filter driver for existing, already installed devices. This feature allows libusb-win32 to communicate with many installed USB device. 2016-05-04T12:14:35 < zyp> oh, haha 2016-05-04T12:14:39 < zyp> that's libusb-0.1 2016-05-04T12:14:49 < dongs> Starting with v1.2.2.0, a GUI (filter wizard) is provided and it is only to attach the filter driver to particular USB device of interests. So this should be safer to use than the older behavior which tries to attach the filter to all USB device (acting as class filters to all possible device class). 2016-05-04T12:14:55 < dongs> i guess i used pre-that 2016-05-04T12:15:04 < dongs> since it attached to everything 2016-05-04T12:15:06 < dongs> and actually fucked shit up 2016-05-04T12:15:22 < ReadError> so uh 2016-05-04T12:15:23 < zyp> dongs, haha, I can imagine 2016-05-04T12:15:27 < ReadError> wtf is the point of this installer 2016-05-04T12:15:31 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T12:15:36 < dongs> ReadError: opensores fags dont use windows 2016-05-04T12:15:38 < dongs> is the point 2016-05-04T12:15:44 < dongs> they wanna $tick it to the man 2016-05-04T12:15:46 < ReadError> its completely useless 2016-05-04T12:15:46 < zyp> ReadError, just an inf file to bind that vid/pid to winusb 2016-05-04T12:15:47 < dongs> micro$oft 2016-05-04T12:15:58 < zyp> just like you would do in zadig otherwise 2016-05-04T12:15:59 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-05-04T12:16:05 -!- rigid [~rigid@ipbcc0fc85.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T12:16:05 -!- rigid [~rigid@ipbcc0fc85.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-04T12:16:05 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T12:16:16 < ReadError> its not some windows10 crazyshit ? 2016-05-04T12:16:18 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-04T12:16:47 < zyp> I've not used windows 10, but I'm not aware of any changes there 2016-05-04T12:17:51 < ReadError> im at the update driver software -> show me everything page trying to find winusb... 2016-05-04T12:18:14 < ReadError> winusb comes w/ withdows? 2016-05-04T12:18:19 < zyp> yes 2016-05-04T12:18:35 < PeterM> [10:18] like http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Controller-Kits-for-HAKKO-T12-Handle-/271957255619 2016-05-04T12:18:40 < PeterM> they're fucking rubbish 2016-05-04T12:19:00 < PeterM> the opamp htye use for thermocouple measurement has mroe offset than the thermocouples fullscale output 2016-05-04T12:19:16 < zyp> haha 2016-05-04T12:19:33 -!- rigid [~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-04T12:21:19 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/YNZtk7H.png 2016-05-04T12:21:28 < ReadError> zyp: manually selected winusb in device manager 2016-05-04T12:21:34 < ReadError> re-did the install, same 2016-05-04T12:21:47 < ReadError> unless there is some extra group policy thing 2016-05-04T12:21:54 < ReadError> and not the full blown safemode deal 2016-05-04T12:22:49 < PeterM> device driver signature enforcement is only disableable in windows after windows vista by specific boot flags 2016-05-04T12:22:57 < PeterM> this enables test5 mode 2016-05-04T12:22:58 < dongs> no more since 8.1 2016-05-04T12:23:08 < PeterM> yes since 8.1 2016-05-04T12:23:28 < PeterM> once in test mode, drivier signing is disabled 2016-05-04T12:23:39 < ReadError> bah changed it in group policy 2016-05-04T12:23:43 < ReadError> didnt reboot but failed still 2016-05-04T12:23:44 < PeterM> you will have a small text in the bottom right corner of the screen 2016-05-04T12:23:53 < ReadError> yea the 'TEST' mode stuff 2016-05-04T12:23:57 < ReadError> i had that in win7 2016-05-04T12:24:21 < PeterM> you can run a small program that removes the entry for the test mode text from a speciic dll if you wish to enable test mdoe permanently 2016-05-04T12:24:33 < PeterM> as i have dibe' 2016-05-04T12:24:34 < PeterM> done 2016-05-04T12:24:36 < PeterM> even 2016-05-04T12:24:40 < ReadError> this entire system is retarded 2016-05-04T12:24:48 < ReadError> if I know how to install a driver fuckin let me 2016-05-04T12:24:56 < PeterM> it's designed for your average idiot 2016-05-04T12:25:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:602e:f15d:813f:6262] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-04T12:25:15 < PeterM> the average idiot doesnt know the risks of unsigned drivers 2016-05-04T12:25:40 < PeterM> if you werent an issue, you'd have jsut subm9itted and self signed your own driver for testing you lazy fuck. 2016-05-04T12:26:00 < ReadError> oh you can self sign? 2016-05-04T12:26:07 < PeterM> no fucking shite 2016-05-04T12:26:08 < ReadError> like, free? 2016-05-04T12:26:11 < ReadError> or paid only 2016-05-04T12:26:55 < PeterM> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+driver+self+signing 2016-05-04T12:27:07 < jpa-> on your own system, you can install your own key 2016-05-04T12:30:14 < ReadError> will have to look at that later, getting distracted from what i was actually trying to do 2016-05-04T12:31:27 < jpa-> clone first, install drivers later 2016-05-04T12:32:32 < dongs> ReadError: if you know how to install a driver then so does schmoe q hacker 2016-05-04T12:32:41 < dongs> enjoy your ring0 rootkit 2016-05-04T12:33:12 < ReadError> any any joe cant pay $$ to sign drivers? 2016-05-04T12:33:41 < PeterM> no 2016-05-04T12:33:48 < PeterM> because WHQL 2016-05-04T12:35:13 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T12:35:17 < jpa-> is WHQL mandatory now? 2016-05-04T12:35:56 < PeterM> for signed driver iirc yes 2016-05-04T12:36:00 < ReadError> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/hh833792 2016-05-04T12:36:04 < ReadError> is it free now? 2016-05-04T12:36:25 < ReadError> Microsoft no longer requires a WHQL testing fee,[4] which used to be USD $250 per operating system family.[5] This fee covers both 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) versions, if submitted simultaneously, and is non-refundable. The fee does not include other expenses, such as a Windows Server 2008 x64 license, necessary for running WHQL tests, and a VeriSign certificate, necessary for submitting test results.[6] 2016-05-04T12:36:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-10.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T12:37:36 < ReadError> nm this is way too involved 2016-05-04T12:37:49 < jpa-> i think all you need is the verisign cert and then you get signed drivers, but if you also want WHQL mark then you need that testing 2016-05-04T12:38:02 < jpa-> but i've never even seen win10 2016-05-04T12:38:07 < ReadError> ya i just want to be able to install stuff easy on win10 2016-05-04T12:38:17 < ReadError> whichever is the easiest route 2016-05-04T12:39:54 < dongs> 2016-05-04T12:40:01 < dongs> self signing nothing to do wiht whql 2016-05-04T12:40:07 < dongs> every vendor self-signs even nvidia/amd 2016-05-04T12:40:12 < dongs> especially beta drivers 2016-05-04T12:48:14 < TheSeven> well not really self signed, but signed by a trusted CA, which isn't that cheap either 2016-05-04T12:48:48 < ReadError> sounds like everyone is confused heh 2016-05-04T12:48:50 < TheSeven> signing has been mandatory for kernel drivers since at least win7, but only on 64bit 2016-05-04T12:50:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-10.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T12:50:39 < TheSeven> or actually you sign the driver yourself, but with a key that you can't generate youself (but that you can use on multiple drivers) 2016-05-04T12:50:40 < dongs> TheSeven: that is what i meant 2016-05-04T12:50:42 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-04T12:50:46 < dongs> i have that 2016-05-04T12:50:56 < dongs> and so do most developers doing drivers/apps i guess 2016-05-04T12:51:04 < dongs> keeps shitty cloners like stonererror at bay 2016-05-04T12:51:27 < ReadError> yea dangerous signing them libusb drivers 2016-05-04T12:51:52 < TheSeven> I remember that it took years to get someone to spend that money for libusb, which is why it used to work only on 32bit 2016-05-04T12:52:20 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/threed-design/developing-product/ 2016-05-04T12:52:21 < dongs> ok 2016-05-04T12:52:40 < TheSeven> which was also before winusb was available 2016-05-04T12:55:03 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vurcijmbfoewvirt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-04T12:56:03 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/need-custom-PCB-design-consulting/ 2016-05-04T12:56:06 < dongs> hahahahahahahahahaha 2016-05-04T12:56:54 < ReadError> wtf 2016-05-04T12:56:58 < ReadError> 47 euro? 2016-05-04T12:57:01 < dongs> yes 2016-05-04T12:58:26 < TheSeven> for just a quick "you'll need to watch out for this and that" maybe ;) 2016-05-04T12:58:28 < ReadError> have to 'counsel' this dickhead alone would cost 47 euro 2016-05-04T12:59:14 < TheSeven> this is phrased in a way that makes me interpret it as only the "counseling", not doing the actual design 2016-05-04T12:59:50 < ReadError> he needs PCB Layout 2016-05-04T12:59:51 < TheSeven> as in "slap some allwinner A20 in there, and maybe some whatever-chip for wifi" 2016-05-04T13:00:04 < ReadError> it sounds he he wants you to tell him what parts and then you do the work 2016-05-04T13:00:36 < ReadError> maybe to tell you yes/no on parts? I duno, figured he would type more than a line if he was serious 2016-05-04T13:00:45 < jpa-> maybe it is more like "i need someone to write me a freelancer project description for the actual work" 2016-05-04T13:05:19 < Ecco> I'm reading an LCD datasheet 2016-05-04T13:05:49 < Ecco> and it mentions a "System voltage (operating voltage)" and an "Interface operation voltage (I/O supply voltage)". 2016-05-04T13:05:52 < Ecco> What's the difference? 2016-05-04T13:06:32 < ReadError> logic voltage 2016-05-04T13:06:38 < PeterM> what voltage it opperate from and what voltage the IO can tolerate and or drive 2016-05-04T13:06:38 < ReadError> vs the controllers running voltage 2016-05-04T13:06:56 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-04T13:07:15 < Ecco> Thanks 2016-05-04T13:07:40 < Ecco> Extra question, it mentions Min/Typ/Max values 2016-05-04T13:07:48 < Ecco> and "absolute operation range" which is far greater? 2016-05-04T13:08:06 < Ecco> Does it mean that it will function in the min-max range and will be *damaged* outside the absolute operation range? 2016-05-04T13:08:09 < PeterM> min/max/typ is for noprmal opperation 24/7 2016-05-04T13:08:12 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-04T13:08:19 < Ecco> Makes perfect sense 2016-05-04T13:08:22 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-04T13:08:29 < PeterM> absolute maximimus/minimums are if it goes beyond this point it WILL gat damaged 2016-05-04T13:08:36 < Ecco> gotcha 2016-05-04T13:09:27 < ReadError> how is the calc going Ecco ?? 2016-05-04T13:09:34 < PeterM> well, more like "if it goes beyond these values we cannot garantee the operation of the part, even if it returns to a safe value" 2016-05-04T13:10:04 < Ecco> ReadError: Well, slowly :) 2016-05-04T13:10:12 < Ecco> I'll post progress as soon as I've something worth showing :) 2016-05-04T13:10:21 < Ecco> PeterM: I see 2016-05-04T13:10:22 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-04T13:10:26 < ReadError> what parts did you finish making? (pcb) 2016-05-04T13:10:34 < Ecco> Yeah, I had a first PCB 2016-05-04T13:10:43 < Ecco> but made some poor choices 2016-05-04T13:10:46 < Ecco> so I'm re-doing it :) 2016-05-04T13:11:45 < ReadError> whats funny, after every board I do, when I go back and look at older ones, notice something and go "what the hell was I thinking when I did this???" 2016-05-04T13:11:57 < ReadError> and it could only be like 2 weeks ago 2016-05-04T13:12:11 < PeterM> ReadError, for me its usually "how much was i drinking at the time" 2016-05-04T13:12:13 < ReadError> but mostly the year old stuff 2016-05-04T13:12:15 < ReadError> haha 2016-05-04T13:12:24 < Ecco> :) 2016-05-04T13:12:40 < ReadError> it all works, you just notice better ways to do things later 2016-05-04T13:12:57 < PeterM> yeah, agreed 2016-05-04T13:13:29 < ReadError> ordered some korea 2016-05-04T13:13:44 < ReadError> he hooked it up, ENIG for 30$ extra and 2 extra panels for 10$ each 2016-05-04T13:13:45 < PeterM> except, over time the amount of shit that is like "wtf ???" is lower and lower 2016-05-04T13:14:25 < PeterM> yeah, enig is usually 25-30usd flat fee 2016-05-04T13:14:32 < ReadError> ya that I was cool with 2016-05-04T13:14:35 < PeterM> fairly standard price 2016-05-04T13:14:40 < ReadError> but the extra panels i was pretty happy about 2016-05-04T13:14:45 < ReadError> glad to know about this option 2016-05-04T13:15:19 < PeterM> ya 2016-05-04T13:16:01 < ReadError> plus 1oz inner/outer 2016-05-04T13:16:06 < ReadError> osh is less i think 2016-05-04T13:16:39 < ReadError> paid 39$ for 3 boards there D; 2016-05-04T13:17:12 < PeterM> most places do 1/1/1/1 for same price as 1/0.5/0.5/1 you jsut have to ask 2016-05-04T13:17:29 < ReadError> yea tolerances change though when you go up in inners 2016-05-04T13:17:34 < ReadError> atleast with this guy 2016-05-04T13:17:37 < ReadError> makes sense 2016-05-04T13:18:25 < PeterM> yeah, tolerances change with respect to copepr thickness on all layers 2016-05-04T13:19:45 < PeterM> https://www.multi-circuit-boards.eu/en/pcb-design-aid/surface/conductor-copper-thickness.html 2016-05-04T13:20:06 < PeterM> obvs thats that fabs spec, bvut its fairly similar 2016-05-04T13:20:27 < ReadError> yea longer time to etch 2016-05-04T13:20:37 < ReadError> so cant be as precise I guess 2016-05-04T13:20:38 < PeterM> no 2016-05-04T13:20:44 < PeterM> its about trace aspect ratio 2016-05-04T13:21:04 < ReadError> oh? 2016-05-04T13:21:05 < PeterM> the thicker the trace the more the trace becoems a trapezoid 2016-05-04T13:21:20 < ReadError> oh from the film to substrate ? 2016-05-04T13:21:23 < ReadError> more distance 2016-05-04T13:21:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:22:55 < PeterM> nah, because with thicker copper, the etchant doesnt go straight down, it goes down diagoanlly a bit 2016-05-04T13:23:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-10.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:23:08 < PeterM> if i drew it it would make more sense 2016-05-04T13:23:26 < ReadError> I get what your saying 2016-05-04T13:24:47 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.114.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:25:13 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.114.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-04T13:25:32 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.114.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:27:28 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-04T13:28:02 < ReadError> dongs beep 2016-05-04T13:28:49 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fgouvbifjezhdgql] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-04T13:28:54 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/9sSQzoj.png even though you understand what im saying, heres a sweet paint drawing i did anyway 2016-05-04T13:28:59 < PeterM> do i get a gold start mum? 2016-05-04T13:29:21 < PeterM> *star 2016-05-04T13:29:32 < ReadError> grabbed 64 of these fuckers (kiss 24a GERMAN POWER ESC) http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=505_507_763&products_id=5101 2016-05-04T13:29:47 < ReadError> they had 1000 this morning, sold out in like 8hrs 2016-05-04T13:30:11 < ReadError> 16 of these http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=505_778_779&products_id=5194 2016-05-04T13:30:16 < ReadError> fanboys are the worst 2016-05-04T13:30:22 < PeterM> how much were they? 2016-05-04T13:30:24 < ReadError> but they pay retarded money right now on ebay 2016-05-04T13:30:25 < ReadError> heh 2016-05-04T13:30:33 < PeterM> "-2 Units in Stock" 2016-05-04T13:30:40 < ReadError> people are selling 4 esc and 1 FC for like, $435 2016-05-04T13:30:47 < ReadError> final price.. 2016-05-04T13:30:57 < PeterM> dafuq 2016-05-04T13:31:18 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/282016896144?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 2016-05-04T13:31:23 < ReadError> this shit still has a day left lol 2016-05-04T13:31:36 < ReadError> its beyond retarded 2016-05-04T13:31:45 < PeterM> jesus fuckign christ 2016-05-04T13:31:52 < PeterM> you gonna clone em rite? 2016-05-04T13:31:57 < ReadError> fuck no 2016-05-04T13:32:04 < ReadError> I got 16x 'combos' 2016-05-04T13:32:10 < PeterM> ahh 2016-05-04T13:32:11 < ReadError> gonna flip them bricks 2016-05-04T13:32:24 < ReadError> then buy actual decent crap 2016-05-04T13:32:42 < ReadError> stuff that doesnt catch on fire 2016-05-04T13:38:15 < dongs> ReadError: wat 2016-05-04T13:38:29 < ReadError> flyduino scammin 2016-05-04T13:39:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:41:45 < dongs> haha, retards 2016-05-04T13:41:54 < dongs> trash + trash 2016-05-04T13:42:06 < dongs> v1.03? 2016-05-04T13:42:14 < dongs> how could they fuck up the first 3 times> 2016-05-04T13:42:35 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:44:01 < ReadError> some diode issue on the first or something 2016-05-04T13:44:26 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-04T13:46:19 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T13:46:58 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T13:49:53 < dongs> ReadError: lol @ that kiss 2016-05-04T13:49:56 < dongs> 5S on 7805 2016-05-04T13:49:56 < dongs> k 2016-05-04T13:50:12 < dongs> or 7803 or whaever 2016-05-04T13:50:14 < dongs> such jokers 2016-05-04T13:50:17 < dongs> very race 2016-05-04T13:51:32 < ReadError> oh that was the 30a auction 2016-05-04T13:51:36 < ReadError> the 24's are worth even more 2016-05-04T13:51:46 < ReadError> its the new hype 2016-05-04T13:51:52 < dongs> self-created hype 2016-05-04T13:52:00 < dongs> do those things still blow up on power-on? 2016-05-04T13:52:07 < dongs> or are those only for atmel version 2016-05-04T13:55:17 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.114.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T13:55:55 < ReadError> dongs heard of some fires so far 2016-05-04T13:55:58 < ReadError> not as wide spread 2016-05-04T13:56:09 < ReadError> apparently the issue is the assembly place.... 2016-05-04T13:56:38 < ReadError> some crappy .eu place in like.... bulgaria or some odd country 2016-05-04T13:58:45 < PeterM> ive seen some pretty decent assembly joints around .ee and .lt 2016-05-04T13:59:05 < PeterM> oddly, wiht both htyir TLDs being somewhat electronics related 2016-05-04T13:59:10 < PeterM> their 2016-05-04T13:59:20 < dongs> cocks.ee 2016-05-04T14:03:53 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/03/dish_iphone_repairs/ wut lol 2016-05-04T14:06:53 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/03/dell_to_change_name_to_dell_technologies/ 2016-05-04T14:07:05 < dongs> dell owns vmware wat? 2016-05-04T14:07:34 < ReadError> ah ya 2016-05-04T14:12:34 < PeterM> >repairing phones with 3rd party parts 2016-05-04T14:12:44 < PeterM> do you want your shit to not last? 2016-05-04T14:12:55 < dongs> 2nd hand junk from aliexpress 2016-05-04T14:13:56 < PeterM> nah, just china rubbish window glass digitizers... 2016-05-04T14:14:17 < PeterM> half looks at the shit wrong and it scratches and breaks 2016-05-04T14:15:01 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/03/chrome_edges_out_ie_for_desktop_browser_crown/ 2016-05-04T14:15:04 < dongs> lul 2016-05-04T14:15:10 < dongs> falefox is barely on radar 2016-05-04T14:15:12 < ReadError> about time 2016-05-04T14:15:18 < dongs> ohsix is probl last user 2016-05-04T14:15:24 < PeterM> i dont understand hwo people can use firefox 2016-05-04T14:15:29 < ReadError> chatch still uses opera 2016-05-04T14:15:33 < dongs> PeterM: what do you think shiould I get that leaf pack for ~$2k and part it out for different projects? 2016-05-04T14:15:58 < dongs> http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f177305919 2016-05-04T14:16:14 < PeterM> at 2k you could resell it to anyone in the usa for 3x and make money + free shipping and still make money 2016-05-04T14:16:39 < dongs> well i really cba to do it 2016-05-04T14:16:46 < dongs> is that a decent price tho 2016-05-04T14:17:01 < dongs> i recall we were talkin about like individual leaf packs and they were $$ 2016-05-04T14:17:46 < zyp> put it on your bike 2016-05-04T14:17:49 < PeterM> i think a full leaf pak is something like 7kus usually 2016-05-04T14:18:01 < PeterM> usd ofc 2016-05-04T14:18:05 < PeterM> *used 2016-05-04T14:18:24 < zyp> but how much used 2016-05-04T14:18:30 < dongs> this ons has 60k km 2016-05-04T14:18:34 < zyp> there's lightly used and almost dead 2016-05-04T14:19:09 < PeterM> zyp even at "almsot dead" they are still incredibly good batteries and very cheap $/kwh 2016-05-04T14:19:23 < zyp> true 2016-05-04T14:19:40 < PeterM> 60k km is pretty good iirc 2016-05-04T14:19:57 < zyp> 60k is not a lot 2016-05-04T14:20:24 < zyp> but used distance is not a good measure of battery condition 2016-05-04T14:20:31 < PeterM> thats only like 300 cycles at 200km/cycle 2016-05-04T14:20:43 < zyp> from what I hear it matters more how it's been used, and what climate it's been used in 2016-05-04T14:20:49 < karlp> not all of us live in country vic peterm ;) 2016-05-04T14:21:11 < PeterM> karlp yeah, nto even me,. i live in country nsw :p 2016-05-04T14:21:19 < zyp> eh, I don't think it goes 200km per cycle :p 2016-05-04T14:21:30 < zyp> well, maybe 2016-05-04T14:21:31 < karlp> albury, wodonga, whatevs 2016-05-04T14:21:43 < zyp> of course, it has margins in top and bottom, so it doesn't use full capacity either 2016-05-04T14:21:52 < zyp> so maybe it'd go 200km if it used the whole capacity 2016-05-04T14:21:53 < PeterM> im nto in albury,m but my POI in in aubury 2016-05-04T14:22:25 < PeterM> goddamnit im murdering the english language 2016-05-04T14:22:51 < PeterM> zyp even at 100km/cycle thats still "only" 600 cycles 2016-05-04T14:22:55 < zyp> yeah 2016-05-04T14:23:00 < zyp> 60k is not a lot either 2016-05-04T14:23:24 < zyp> I'm coming up on 5k soon in my new car, and I've barely had it two months 2016-05-04T14:23:59 < dongs> coo.. 2016-05-04T14:24:07 < dongs> yes i plan to put into bike 2016-05-04T14:24:16 < dongs> also shipping is like $30 2016-05-04T14:24:16 < dongs> lol 2016-05-04T14:24:35 < dongs> might just get it 2016-05-04T14:24:42 < PeterM> dongs what is the year model of the leaf? 2016-05-04T14:24:45 < zyp> dongs, I think it's built up of modules in series 2016-05-04T14:25:02 < PeterM> 1993 isnt an acceptable year 2016-05-04T14:25:22 < zyp> a single module might be able to fit a bike 2016-05-04T14:25:33 < dongs> it is 2016-05-04T14:25:38 < zyp> not sure what the exact topology is 2016-05-04T14:26:07 < dongs> http://www.nissan-global.com/JP/TECHNOLOGY/FILES/2011/12/f4ef344cc2613b.jpg 2016-05-04T14:26:11 < dongs> one cell looks like that metal pack thingy 2016-05-04T14:26:22 < dongs> it would definitely fit in my fourwheeler 2016-05-04T14:26:42 < PeterM> each metal pack is a 2s2p 2016-05-04T14:27:29 < PeterM> so 7 cans is 12s 60ha~ 2016-05-04T14:27:33 < PeterM> *ah 2016-05-04T14:27:36 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T14:27:39 < Laurenceb_> Trump confirmed 2016-05-04T14:27:45 < Laurenceb_> 4chan have a lot to answer for 2016-05-04T14:28:30 < Laurenceb_> marblecake also the game was ok, this is too far 2016-05-04T14:28:34 < PeterM> bugger off Laurence /b/ 2016-05-04T14:29:08 < dongs> PeterM: wat if the pack is fully flat 2016-05-04T14:29:15 < dongs> like due 2 car fail or wahtever 2016-05-04T14:29:20 < dongs> and the cells are trashed 2016-05-04T14:29:45 < PeterM> pack fully flat is fine 2016-05-04T14:30:18 < PeterM> provided cells arent reverse charged becuase they have been actively discharged flat, rather than let self discharge to flat 2016-05-04T14:30:26 < dongs> ah. 2016-05-04T14:30:54 < PeterM> commercial lipos (non rc crap) is actually fine to store at like 0% soc 2016-05-04T14:31:11 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ whats 4chan have to do with trump? 2016-05-04T14:32:15 < PeterM> dongs if you wanna make some custom packs out of them, its pretty easy because they stack pretty easy and there are two types of cells, left cells and right cells 2016-05-04T14:32:31 < PeterM> they have positive o nleft and positive o nright 2016-05-04T14:32:43 < dongs> nice 2016-05-04T14:32:48 < PeterM> allowing you to stack them and have very short distance for your series connection 2016-05-04T14:32:50 < PeterM> smart 2016-05-04T14:32:53 < dongs> so you can just ping pong the connectors 2016-05-04T14:32:56 < dongs> ya 2016-05-04T14:33:16 < PeterM> also standart m6 bolt 2016-05-04T14:33:28 < dongs> wouldnt be the first time i threw away $2k on useless shit, i guess ill pick it up 2016-05-04T14:33:47 < Laurenceb_> ReadError: Trump is the /pol/ candidate, he reposts their memes on his twitter 2016-05-04T14:34:16 < PeterM> im sure if you have it sitting around and want to get rid of it, i could buy a pack or two off you and im sure clonerror would proabbly be up for one or two too 2016-05-04T14:36:44 < dongs> if i can convince japan post to ship a bomb 2016-05-04T14:37:11 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, yeah and the official sonic the hedgehog posts https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/722109997820162048 2016-05-04T14:37:37 < PeterM> dongs jsut dont tell em its a bomb 2016-05-04T14:37:44 < Lux> PeterM: how can a fully flat lipo still be ok ? 2016-05-04T14:37:50 < Laurenceb_> Chris Chan doesnt like that Sonic 2016-05-04T14:37:53 < PeterM> "whats in it?" "oh, jsut sopem documents" 2016-05-04T14:38:20 < PeterM> lux a better question is how can it not still be ok 2016-05-04T14:39:07 < Lux> why even bother with under voltage protection etc then ? 2016-05-04T14:39:24 < Lux> i've killed some that way 2016-05-04T14:39:29 < Lux> at least they derate a lot 2016-05-04T14:39:31 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T14:39:34 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ soooo you are trying to tell me trump is reading 4chan? 2016-05-04T14:39:49 < Laurenceb_> yes, he practically lives on there 2016-05-04T14:40:13 < PeterM> lux because if you discharge them actively, and you dont have the protection, due to inbalances in cell capacity, you can start charging cells in reverse 2016-05-04T14:40:17 < zyp> confirmed: Laurenceb_ is trump 2016-05-04T14:40:20 < PeterM> which is BAAAADDDDD 2016-05-04T14:40:28 < ReadError> NOT FUNNY LAURENCEB 2016-05-04T14:40:43 < Laurenceb_> nope its beyond a joke now 2016-05-04T14:40:47 < Laurenceb_> but its true 2016-05-04T14:40:51 < Lux> PeterM: i still call bullshit until i actually tried it out 2016-05-04T14:41:06 < zyp> PeterM, what about single cell batteries? 2016-05-04T14:41:09 < Lux> what cells would you recomment where one will see no difference ? 2016-05-04T14:41:13 < zyp> they still have undervoltage protection 2016-05-04T14:41:20 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/Artnokh.gif 2016-05-04T14:41:46 < Lux> like every cellphone battery 2016-05-04T14:41:51 < dongs> is that trump 2016-05-04T14:42:21 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/TGrCSHo.gifv 2016-05-04T14:42:28 < Lux> ted cruz ? 2016-05-04T14:42:30 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ his speech today was MAD cringe 2016-05-04T14:42:34 < ReadError> fucking hilarious 2016-05-04T14:42:53 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-04T14:43:50 < dongs> PeterM: so how do I balance individual cells> 2016-05-04T14:43:51 < PeterM> zyp because the same ICs are used in multicell packs it is pretty much a free feature to add, also because cycling repetatively to 0% soc is bad, but storage at 0% soc is inconsequential because life lost during "calandar life" of storage is usually much mroethan the life lost from the single cycle of 0% 2016-05-04T14:43:54 < dongs> if its 2s2p 2016-05-04T14:44:03 < PeterM> dongs there is center tap 2016-05-04T14:44:44 < dongs> can i nigger an accusmell or something into that easily? 2016-05-04T14:44:48 < PeterM> VAST VAST majority of damage to li ion occurs during charging, especialyl at high current and at high SOC 2016-05-04T14:44:52 < PeterM> dogns sure 2016-05-04T14:45:01 < PeterM> but i wouldnt bother 2016-05-04T14:45:43 < PeterM> bottom balance each cell (ie, discharge each cell to empty), then charge all cells with the same amount of amp hours until one cell is full 2016-05-04T14:45:44 < dongs> does leaf itself balance chanrge? 2016-05-04T14:46:08 < PeterM> then, when you dischrge battery. all cells go flat at the same time 2016-05-04T14:46:25 < zyp> there's probably a BMS in the pack 2016-05-04T14:46:30 < zyp> that does balanching 2016-05-04T14:46:36 < zyp> -h 2016-05-04T14:46:40 < PeterM> there is a BMS that usuaslyl ahndles all that 2016-05-04T14:46:55 < PeterM> but i dont think he wants to stick an entire leaf pack in a bike 2016-05-04T14:50:35 < dongs> http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w138577016 same jews are selling teh 'charger' too 2016-05-04T14:50:41 -!- Shavik|afk [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T14:51:22 < dongs> anyway 2016-05-04T14:51:34 < dongs> PeterM: so youdont think i should bother with balancing it once its in a pack? 2016-05-04T14:51:50 < dongs> like if I make a 3S metal packs or someshit 2016-05-04T14:52:00 < dongs> to have 6S in series total 2016-05-04T14:52:20 < PeterM> i'd make/find something to monitor it, bnut i wouldn't do regular balancing 2016-05-04T14:52:30 < dongs> okie 2016-05-04T14:52:37 < PeterM> the cells are pretty damn well matched 2016-05-04T14:53:25 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/6qGTkz.jpg 2016-05-04T14:53:27 < ReadError> wth is that 2016-05-04T14:53:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-10.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-04T14:53:40 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T14:54:29 < PeterM> you mean the cut cable? 2016-05-04T14:54:32 < ReadError> see clear tubing, looks like some kind of plumbing ? 2016-05-04T14:54:51 < ReadError> maybe theres something inside, pics kinda suck 2016-05-04T14:55:02 < PeterM> oh, the clear tubing looks like it goes over a peice of black wire 2016-05-04T14:55:14 < Lux> PeterM: do you have any sources backing your statements ? 2016-05-04T14:56:01 < PeterM> lux nope, none at all, and i accept no liability for your actions 2016-05-04T14:56:09 < PeterM> so do whatever the fuck you want 2016-05-04T14:56:25 < Lux> lol 2016-05-04T14:56:33 < dongs> hmmm 2016-05-04T14:57:10 < PeterM> realistically, i could find them if i wanted to spend the next hour looking and arguing, but ive got better things to do with my time, like sleep. 2016-05-04T14:57:55 < Lux> so basically trolling ? 2016-05-04T14:58:05 < dongs> lux, check the channel you're in 2016-05-04T14:58:14 < Lux> maybe i'll find something that's somewhat scientific and true on that topic 2016-05-04T14:58:16 < dongs> if there's no trolling going on at any given moment something is wrong 2016-05-04T14:58:37 < Lux> guess so :) 2016-05-04T15:00:01 < dongs> cant i use the rest of the cells as battery backup for my house> 2016-05-04T15:00:08 < PeterM> lux, i try my best to provide correct information based on what i have learned from many reputable soruces over the years, hwoever, i dont keep track of those sources because i couldnt be bothered, and winning internet arguements isn't on the top of my todo list 2016-05-04T15:00:42 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKTUhGZldMU19CNFU/view?usp=drivesdk 2016-05-04T15:01:01 < Ecco> I'm trying to figure out how to properly drive the backlight of a small LCD panel 2016-05-04T15:01:09 < Lux> PeterM: okay, i've just never seen anything that stated similar stuff, that's why i'm asking 2016-05-04T15:01:13 < kakimir> anyone decode this? 2016-05-04T15:01:26 < PeterM> lux i assume you're familiar with the batteryuniversity website? 2016-05-04T15:01:32 < PeterM> dotn be 2016-05-04T15:01:42 < PeterM> its fuckign rubbish 2016-05-04T15:01:48 < jpa-> once the battery ages, the cells will become unbalanced eventually 2016-05-04T15:01:52 < Lux> a bit, but ya it doesn't really seem right 2016-05-04T15:02:04 < dongs> kakimir: i think your pwm input is out of range or somethign 2016-05-04T15:02:08 < dongs> OUT OF RAGE 2016-05-04T15:02:09 < Lux> i've just seen some research on dod stuff 2016-05-04T15:02:36 < Lux> like that >4V on a lipo battery will actually make it age a lot faster 2016-05-04T15:02:42 < PeterM> jpa-, yes, opver many many cycles, which is why i suggest have some way of chekcing balance 2016-05-04T15:02:44 < jpa-> proper balancing is a question of extending the life of the battery as a whole for some time; having something atleast monitor it is necessary for it not to go *poof* at end of life 2016-05-04T15:03:22 < PeterM> but you should not have to balance cells every chearge, nto even every 10 charges 2016-05-04T15:04:52 < dongs> http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/10/17/bb65c7c6a2c62a3d.webm 2016-05-04T15:04:59 < jpa-> PeterM: on new battery, probably not 2016-05-04T15:05:48 < jpa-> of course one can consider that once the cells start exhibiting balancing issue the whole pack should be replaced 2016-05-04T15:06:20 < PeterM> lux it depends a lot on the cells and how they're used, but yes, the higher votlages cause more aging as a general rule. 2016-05-04T15:07:39 < jpa-> for long life and safety, one might just use lifepo4 anyway 2016-05-04T15:07:54 < dongs> http://www.upjpn.jp/yahoo/goods_photo/912212/2010.html 2016-05-04T15:07:55 < dongs> EV motor 2016-05-04T15:08:01 < dongs> from same car 2016-05-04T15:08:12 < dongs> cool esc plug 2016-05-04T15:08:55 < PeterM> lifepo4 has stagnated and other lithium chemistries have caught up, that suggestion mayu have been valid 5-10 years but is largely non-representative of cells these days 2016-05-04T15:09:40 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T15:09:54 < jpa-> PeterM: in terms of life you mean? 2016-05-04T15:09:58 < dongs> man japs parted out that leaf nicely 2016-05-04T15:10:07 < PeterM> and safety 2016-05-04T15:10:10 < dongs> they've got like ~200 auctions with different parts from it 2016-05-04T15:10:29 < jpa-> PeterM: hmm, how has the safety improved? 2016-05-04T15:10:47 < dongs> http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f177306195 2016-05-04T15:11:00 < PeterM> jpa- i dunno, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz37WycW-7E 2016-05-04T15:11:38 < dongs> cft, no idea 2016-05-04T15:11:42 < dongs> its a car junk shop 2016-05-04T15:12:05 < PeterM> i mean, not exactly a scientific test but rought idea wise 2016-05-04T15:12:28 < dongs> http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f177305999 2016-05-04T15:12:31 < dongs> $80 bucks for a button wat 2016-05-04T15:12:55 < jpa-> PeterM: yeah.. though it is a bit different from the cell's safety, which is more important when making custom packs & BMS etc. 2016-05-04T15:13:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T15:13:23 < PeterM> dongs probably "smart" button with i2c or soem shti in it 2016-05-04T15:14:18 < PeterM> jpa-, that has also improved, but as i said before, cbf sources 2016-05-04T15:14:25 < PeterM> sleep is mroe importants 2016-05-04T15:14:32 < PeterM> as a result, im goign to sleep 2016-05-04T15:15:02 < PeterM> and crt talks, whats the difference? 2016-05-04T15:15:31 < dongs> http://www.upjpn.jp/yahoo/car_photo/912212/6451/m0002.jpg 2016-05-04T15:15:31 < PeterM> i dun either 2016-05-04T15:15:38 < dongs> doesnt look like there's that much wires coming out of it 2016-05-04T15:15:42 < dongs> entire pack 2016-05-04T15:15:50 < dongs> if ther's some balancing going on, theres probly some stuff internally too 2016-05-04T15:16:09 < PeterM> nah theres a big 40pin connector on one othe the plugs 2016-05-04T15:16:28 < dongs> yeah thats the pic 2016-05-04T15:16:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T15:19:00 < dongs> totally 2016-05-04T15:21:49 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-04T15:23:38 < dongs> C8 is dirt cheap at verical 2016-05-04T15:23:58 < dongs> https://www.verical.com/pd/stmicroelectronics-microcontroller-stm32f103c8t6-69880 2016-05-04T15:24:01 < dongs> hmm not so dirt cheap anymore 2016-05-04T15:24:23 < dongs> scam 2016-05-04T15:24:35 < dongs> no it definitely was 2016-05-04T15:24:45 < dongs> like 3-4 years ago i was buying C8 for < $1.50-ish 2016-05-04T15:24:54 < dongs> considering it has 128k flash anyway 2016-05-04T15:24:58 < dongs> if you just ignore flash_size register 2016-05-04T15:25:05 < dongs> its basically == CB 2016-05-04T15:25:11 -!- kuldeep_ is now known as kuldeep 2016-05-04T15:27:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T15:35:26 < ReadError> grabbed more f405s 2016-05-04T15:36:12 < ReadError> usa prices on singles sucks 2016-05-04T15:36:27 < dongs> clonerstoner 2016-05-04T15:36:48 < ReadError> dongs nope, just making a few more VESC 2016-05-04T15:36:59 < ReadError> not selling 2016-05-04T15:38:14 < ReadError> got extra cheap motor need to find something cool to waste them on 2016-05-04T15:44:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T15:53:32 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T16:06:36 < dongs> http://lawstreetmedia.com/blogs/crime/americas-safest-dangerous-states-2015/ RIP 2016-05-04T16:08:49 < Ecco> I'm trying to understand LEDs but so far I'm having a hard time 2016-05-04T16:09:05 < Ecco> The datasheet I'm reading says my LEDs have a forward voltage between 2.8 and 3.4V 2016-05-04T16:09:28 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-04T16:09:41 < Rob235_> everyone's a dick on irc 2016-05-04T16:09:42 < Rob235_> :) 2016-05-04T16:09:44 < Ecco> The doc says they should be fed 20 mA 2016-05-04T16:09:57 < Ecco> So my question is : wouldn't that amount to different power? 2016-05-04T16:10:20 < Ecco> So an LED could use 56 mW and another one 68 mW 2016-05-04T16:10:53 < Ecco> Well, I'm trying to understand how it works 2016-05-04T16:11:09 < Ecco> because that's nearly a 20% difference in terms of power consumption 2016-05-04T16:12:37 < Ecco> Those are backlight LEDs for an LCD panel 2016-05-04T16:12:59 < Ecco> so in that specific case you may want to drive them near their full supported load 2016-05-04T16:13:13 < Ecco> What I quite don't get is how LEDs really work 2016-05-04T16:13:27 < Ecco> My understanding is that if you set the voltage across a diode 2016-05-04T16:13:34 < Ecco> initially, they won't emit anything 2016-05-04T16:13:44 < Ecco> and once you step over a limit (their forward voltage), they turn on 2016-05-04T16:13:52 < Rob235_> the current determines how bright they are 2016-05-04T16:14:02 < Ecco> *but* if you raise even so slightly the voltage, they'll let way too much current through, and eventually burn 2016-05-04T16:14:15 < Ecco> Great 2016-05-04T16:14:25 < Rob235_> don't worry about the voltage as long as its about 3v 2016-05-04T16:14:33 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-04T16:14:48 < Ecco> Now given I'm on battery, efficiency matters 2016-05-04T16:15:03 < Ecco> and it turns out the backlight is by an order of magnitude the thing that will eat the most battery 2016-05-04T16:15:12 < Ecco> so I've been doing some math (or trying to at least) 2016-05-04T16:15:35 < Ecco> and I came to realise that, if you wanted to reach the theoretical best case scenario 2016-05-04T16:15:38 < Thorn> use a boost led driver, put leds in series 2016-05-04T16:15:50 < Ecco> the power going through the LED depended on their forward voltage 2016-05-04T16:15:59 < Ecco> Thorn: I can't. The panel ships with LEDs in parallel 2016-05-04T16:16:22 < Thorn> with no builtin series resistors? 2016-05-04T16:16:23 < Ecco> crt: I guess so. I'm trying to figure out what's going on though, just to make sure I pick the right solution 2016-05-04T16:16:32 < Ecco> Thorn: Yeah, in the theoretical best case scenario 2016-05-04T16:16:50 < Ecco> I thought you'd like to avoid turning electricity into heat 2016-05-04T16:17:04 < Thorn> that would be crazy, you'll have very different currents through every led 2016-05-04T16:17:06 < Ecco> but maybe there's just no way to have a perfect constant-current source 2016-05-04T16:17:37 < Ecco> Well, indeed 2016-05-04T16:18:12 < Thorn> driving several parallel leds with a CC source is not much help 2016-05-04T16:18:20 < Ecco> Indeed, you're right 2016-05-04T16:18:23 < Ecco> That's very weird though 2016-05-04T16:18:24 < Ecco> http://i.imgur.com/C6eCCi9.png 2016-05-04T16:18:31 < Ecco> That's what the LCD panel datasheet shows: 2016-05-04T16:19:02 < Rob235_> w00t package on vehicle for delivery, can finally finish wiring up this hexacopter today 2016-05-04T16:35:32 < dongs> Ecco: that just means leds in parallel. 2016-05-04T16:36:10 < dongs> use a sink driver configured for 80mA and done 2016-05-04T16:37:17 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T16:38:12 < Ecco> dongs: I thought LEDs should never be plugged in parallel 2016-05-04T16:38:46 < Ecco> (that's what's explained there at least, http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/22291/why-exactly-cant-a-single-resistor-be-used-for-many-parallel-leds, and that explanation makes a lot of sense) 2016-05-04T16:39:36 < Ecco> Why? How? 2016-05-04T16:39:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T16:40:18 < Ecco> Well, that's quite an assumption 2016-05-04T16:43:26 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T16:44:34 < Ecco> Well, that's a good question, but unfortunately, it's not as if everything coming out of China was known to be rock solid 2016-05-04T16:47:18 < Ecco> :-) 2016-05-04T16:57:47 < dongs> and then you got free randomly blinking leds controller? 2016-05-04T16:59:49 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T17:07:02 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T17:07:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-10.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:11:10 < Laurenceb_> speaking of linear current drivers 2016-05-04T17:11:19 < Laurenceb_> I was going to build an EDM machine 2016-05-04T17:11:24 < Laurenceb_> this could be a fun project 2016-05-04T17:12:12 < Laurenceb_> stm32 powered obviously 2016-05-04T17:13:29 < Laurenceb_> I was thinking of pulling a Cody Wilson 2016-05-04T17:13:52 < Laurenceb_> only the pro way, and realised EDM machining would be perfect, but theres no cheap opensource kit 2016-05-04T17:14:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:15:41 < Laurenceb_> https://vimeo.com/155089463 2016-05-04T17:16:08 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwimL72qPhU cheap EDM machine 2016-05-04T17:22:11 < jpa-> was not :( 2016-05-04T17:23:40 < __rob> is there any pin swapping involved for stm32 if I want one as a slave and another as master on spi ? 2016-05-04T17:23:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:23:54 < __rob> its still MOSI -> MOSI, MISO -> MISO right ? 2016-05-04T17:24:03 < zyp> yes 2016-05-04T17:24:05 < __rob> the lables are wrt to the master so presumably that is correct 2016-05-04T17:24:45 < zyp> correct, they swap input/output roles depending on whether it's in master or slave mode 2016-05-04T17:24:56 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:28:59 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: i found your fetish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DiEBHCSmKg 2016-05-04T17:30:51 < Laurenceb_> who still uses i2c? 2016-05-04T17:31:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:31:42 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:31:42 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-04T17:31:42 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:35:50 < dongs> http://www.click2houston.com/news/possible-active-shooter-reported-inside-harris-county-transportation-building RIP usa 2016-05-04T17:36:06 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-202-237.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T17:38:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-04T17:39:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:41:06 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-175-85.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:44:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T17:46:56 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:50:41 < dongs> why 2016-05-04T17:50:46 < Laurenceb_> nice 2016-05-04T17:55:25 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjwthixhuqbxkxcq] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:58:10 < __rob> jpa- maybe you know 2016-05-04T17:58:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T17:58:22 < __rob> what does reset pull low on the nrst pin at all ? 2016-05-04T17:58:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-10.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T17:59:18 < __rob> i had a problem last night with an and gate driving nrst, turned out the stm32 was resetting itself with a pulse 2016-05-04T17:59:30 < __rob> but I dont really understand why, when there is a reset line on the programmer 2016-05-04T18:00:29 < __rob> it fixed with a series resistor from the gate to nrst, so it the stm32 was able to drive the pin low, but I really don't get the reasoning behind why nrst is bidriectional atall 2016-05-04T18:00:36 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T18:00:40 < jpa-> are you asking "why is the NRST pin pulled down when STM32 resets itself"? 2016-05-04T18:00:52 < jpa-> answer is "so that you can connect it to reset other stuff also" 2016-05-04T18:00:56 < __rob> this is with nothing connected to nrst 2016-05-04T18:00:58 < __rob> at all 2016-05-04T18:01:20 < jpa-> yes, NRST on STM32 is open-drain output i think 2016-05-04T18:01:24 < __rob> https://i.snag.gy/4ATp15.jpg 2016-05-04T18:01:31 < __rob> thats what I saw on it 2016-05-04T18:01:36 < __rob> when connecting in st link 2016-05-04T18:02:20 < jpa-> yep, check reference manual "Simplified diagram of the reset circuit" 2016-05-04T18:02:41 < __rob> should have done!, always treated it as input.. foolish 2016-05-04T18:02:48 < jpa-> you live and learn 2016-05-04T18:03:07 < jpa-> it's sometimes useful for debugging also, to see if the chip is hitting e.g. watchdog 2016-05-04T18:05:05 < __rob> ohh, you get an output on it when reset in software ? 2016-05-04T18:05:19 < jpa-> yep, when reset for any reason 2016-05-04T18:09:36 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-04T18:21:45 < qyx> We need to design and manufacture a relatively thin/small GPS tracker that has a battery life of 8-12 months. It also has to be relatively cheap to manufacture. 2016-05-04T18:21:49 < qyx> pls 2016-05-04T18:25:05 < kha> You are missing details, working range (uplink method GSM?), rate of updates, is it possible to have solar cell on it? 2016-05-04T18:25:39 < kha> Also operating temperature range 2016-05-04T18:26:11 < kha> Do you you need realtime updates or can they be sent in patches 2016-05-04T18:26:52 < kha> For such operating times the device must sleep deep most of the time 2016-05-04T18:27:21 < kha> Like be active on minutes per day 2016-05-04T18:31:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-04T18:32:27 < zyp> or have a huge battery 2016-05-04T18:34:02 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kyvrllpfkzzffdmi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T18:40:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T18:41:43 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-04T18:42:35 < kha> Yeah, still 1mA for a year is almost 9Ah 2016-05-04T18:42:39 -!- Cyric_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T18:43:08 < jpa-> i assume that qyx was just quoting freelancer :) 2016-05-04T18:43:22 < kha> Yeah 2016-05-04T18:44:22 < kha> Doesn't stop elaborating a bit though 2016-05-04T18:46:00 < jpa-> sure :) 2016-05-04T18:46:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:997:5022:c509:775d] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T18:46:32 < kha> Little room for innovation though 2016-05-04T18:46:33 < lorenzo> sure can do 1 year 2016-05-04T18:46:34 < lorenzo> http://aa-boschap-de.resource.bosch.com/media/common_media/parts/de_6/special__auto_parts_1/truck__special_1/t5.jpg?width=1000&height=800 2016-05-04T18:47:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T18:47:04 < lorenzo> kickstarter, "batteries not included" 2016-05-04T18:47:09 < kha> Lol, I think he said relatively small :-) 2016-05-04T18:47:24 < lorenzo> well, relative to the size of the sun, it is 2016-05-04T18:47:35 < kha> True 2016-05-04T18:47:35 < lorenzo> :-) 2016-05-04T18:48:23 < kha> I do not think he was planning to track a cobtainership though 2016-05-04T18:48:46 < qyx> might be doable actually 2016-05-04T18:49:15 < qyx> if the car is moving ~2 hours a day 2016-05-04T18:49:36 < qyx> and considering 3mA for gps and mcu, it would be around 2Ah per year 2016-05-04T18:49:51 < qyx> going to 1.8V could almost double that 2016-05-04T18:50:40 < qyx> those quectel modules have some low power modes going down to 1.8mA iirc 2016-05-04T18:50:50 < qyx> although in static conditions probably 2016-05-04T18:51:14 < kha> There is no need to keep a fix, just wake and grab position every hour 2016-05-04T18:51:44 < qyx> the guy didn't specify that 2016-05-04T18:51:54 < kha> It all depends a lot on the actual requirements yes 2016-05-04T18:51:55 < qyx> I am assuming he wants to do continuous tracking 2016-05-04T18:52:14 < lorenzo> it's not impossible to keep the fix / satellite data on low power 2016-05-04T18:52:23 < lorenzo> many modules have a supercap or coin cell battery 2016-05-04T18:52:28 < Laurenceb_> http://www.amazon.com/Ted-Cruz-Future-Coloring-Activity/dp/1619530953 2016-05-04T18:52:43 < lorenzo> to regain fix quickly e.g. in case of dashboard power cycle or whatever is going on 2016-05-04T18:52:56 < kha> Well fix is lost on sleep but it takes just seconds to reacquire 2016-05-04T18:53:42 < kha> So waking every 5min would be close to realtime giving huge savings on power 2016-05-04T18:54:24 < kha> I kind of assumed tracking wildlife 2016-05-04T18:54:24 < lorenzo> are there very low power gsm modules? 2016-05-04T18:54:32 < lorenzo> iirc GSM specifies up to 3W tx power 2016-05-04T18:54:39 < qyx> it depends on whether the gps is able to regain the fix after 5mins if moving too fast 2016-05-04T18:54:50 < lorenzo> http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gts/05/0505/05.00.00_60/gsmts_0505v050000p.pdf 2016-05-04T18:54:51 < lorenzo> nope, 8W 2016-05-04T18:55:18 < kha> modem needs to be on for minimum amount of time 2016-05-04T18:56:40 < kha> Keeping GSM in network needs a fair amount of power especially on rural areas 2016-05-04T18:59:47 < englishman> ReadError: lol @ flipping kisshype 2016-05-04T18:59:50 < englishman> just like kk2 2016-05-04T19:02:16 < Laurenceb_> kha: the SE880 gps will go down to 500µA at 1.7v iirc 2016-05-04T19:06:17 < kha> Reading spec low power tracking 10mA 2016-05-04T19:07:02 < kha> Sleep is 17uA 2016-05-04T19:07:13 < ReadMobl> englishman: heh 2016-05-04T19:07:22 < ReadMobl> It's smart 2016-05-04T19:07:35 < kha> Average goes very low if waking for a fix every few minutes 2016-05-04T19:07:46 < ReadMobl> I hate them kiss fandom 2016-05-04T19:08:35 < Laurenceb_> kha: http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=6&qm=1_day&f=UBSEDS15 2016-05-04T19:08:42 < Laurenceb_> a SE880 in action :P 2016-05-04T19:09:52 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/assets/flights/15/tracker.jpg 2016-05-04T19:09:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T19:09:55 < emeb> any dongs around? 2016-05-04T19:10:26 < englishman> Laurenceb_: cute 2016-05-04T19:34:24 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T19:34:37 < __rob> Laurenceb_ you at bristol ? 2016-05-04T19:37:03 < Laurenceb_> no thats not my project 2016-05-04T19:37:10 < Laurenceb_> very nice project tho 2016-05-04T19:38:13 < kha> Googling for diy EMS systems, apparently there is a M4F one (rusEFI) 2016-05-04T19:38:25 < kha> A bit early stages HW wise though 2016-05-04T19:38:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T19:38:51 < Laurenceb_> yeah seem that 2016-05-04T19:39:12 < kha> I need something for my motorcycle 2016-05-04T19:39:22 < zyp> johntramp, weren't you involved in some diy ems? 2016-05-04T19:39:23 < kha> So a big box is out of question 2016-05-04T19:39:50 < kha> Will likely get a VEMS box 2016-05-04T19:39:57 < kha> But dunno 2016-05-04T19:40:52 < __rob> what is it ? 2016-05-04T19:40:58 < __rob> the tracker.jpg 2016-05-04T19:41:13 < kha> Balloon tracking unit 2016-05-04T19:41:21 < kha> High alt. 2016-05-04T19:41:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:997:5022:c509:775d] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-04T19:48:24 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/UTUZO88 2016-05-04T19:50:52 < Laurenceb_> ma waifu 2016-05-04T19:52:47 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/OCuyT9V 2016-05-04T20:02:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.187] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:17:42 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:23:30 < Steffanx> The fact you seem to find that stuff says enough laurenceb_ ;) 2016-05-04T20:24:12 < Laurenceb_> ED front page /b/ro 2016-05-04T20:29:30 < ReadError> diptrace 3.0 is out? 2016-05-04T20:29:38 < ReadError> -? 2016-05-04T20:29:47 < ReadError> prolly old new but I thought it was dead 2016-05-04T20:31:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T20:32:54 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:33:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-04T20:37:53 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:37:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.153] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:41:12 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T20:42:56 < Steffanx> lol only because mr d stopped using dicktrace ReadError? 2016-05-04T20:44:47 < ReadError> Steffanx hm ? 2016-05-04T20:44:52 < ReadError> I still like diptrace 2016-05-04T20:45:05 < ReadError> it beats the shit out of eagle/kicad 2016-05-04T20:45:49 < ReadError> it went a year, year.5 without updates it seemed at one point 2016-05-04T20:47:18 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-04T20:49:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:6542:18ca:6f1b:cd92] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:56:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T20:58:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T21:03:59 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-04T21:06:46 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-04T21:15:11 < upgrdman> so uh japan mains ac is like 100V iirc. what do people do if they have devices that need 110 or 120V? Are something like autotransformers common? 2016-05-04T21:18:00 < Ultrasauce_> doesnt japan have two totally different power standards 2016-05-04T21:18:04 < Ultrasauce_> with like a geographical split down the middle 2016-05-04T21:20:08 < Ultrasauce_> ah 100V everywhere, 50hz east vs 60hz west 2016-05-04T21:20:14 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-04T21:20:25 < Ultrasauce_> that is fuckin weird 2016-05-04T21:20:47 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T21:23:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.176] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T21:23:33 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T21:24:03 < karlp> brazil has mixed 50/60 too iirc 2016-05-04T21:28:19 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FCA59F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T21:41:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T21:41:36 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T21:43:39 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FCA59F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-04T21:47:37 -!- circuit [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T22:00:01 < Steffanx> i was referring to "but I thought it was dead" ReadError 2016-05-04T22:00:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T22:04:27 < __rob> how much does the baud rate setting matter on spi slave ? 2016-05-04T22:04:32 < __rob> seeing as the master is driving the clock 2016-05-04T22:04:57 < Lux> it needs to be lager than clock*2 iirc 2016-05-04T22:05:17 < Lux> at least the clock driving the peripheral has to 2016-05-04T22:08:31 < __rob> right, trying to figure out why I am getting only partially correct data on SPI1 2016-05-04T22:08:34 < __rob> but its fine on SPI2 2016-05-04T22:08:36 < __rob> from the same second board 2016-05-04T22:09:09 < __rob> using DMA2 on SPI1 and DMA1 on SPI2 2016-05-04T22:10:59 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T22:12:04 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121.200.15.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T22:15:58 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T22:25:48 < __rob> really dont understand it, tx is fine on that SPI1 2016-05-04T22:25:59 < __rob> gets to the otherside no problem regardless of baud rate 2016-05-04T22:26:11 < jadew> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-wildfire-fortmcmurray-idUSKCN0XU2D8 2016-05-04T22:26:12 < __rob> just the rx is mangled with partial bits correct 2016-05-04T22:26:27 < __rob> always mangled the same tho 2016-05-04T22:26:37 < __rob> for a given message 2016-05-04T22:26:55 < __rob> same code working fine using SPI2 instead 2016-05-04T22:32:16 < Ultrasauce_> what is the bitrate and also what is the peripheral clock rate? 2016-05-04T22:32:22 < Ultrasauce_> remember apb2 is half as fast as apb1 2016-05-04T22:32:39 < Ultrasauce_> er I got that backwards 2016-05-04T22:34:08 < Rickta59> SPI1 can go 2x SPI2 no? 2016-05-04T22:34:24 < __rob> APB1 is 40.625 2016-05-04T22:34:33 < __rob> APB2 is 81.25 2016-05-04T22:34:41 < Rickta59> or the other way around 2016-05-04T22:35:02 < __rob> apb2 is twice as fast ? 2016-05-04T22:35:11 < Rickta59> one is faster than the other 2016-05-04T22:35:14 < Rickta59> i forget which 2016-05-04T22:35:17 < __rob> yes, apb2 is faster 2016-05-04T22:35:24 < Ultrasauce_> fuck they made it confusing 2016-05-04T22:35:37 < __rob> still, I have lowered the baud rate on the spi to slow as I can 2016-05-04T22:35:43 < Ultrasauce_> probably barking up the wrong tree anyway yeah 2016-05-04T22:35:45 < __rob> still, the send is fine, the recieve through DMA is not 2016-05-04T22:35:49 < Rickta59> so 80/256 2016-05-04T22:36:12 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T22:36:12 < __rob> really struggling where to look 2016-05-04T22:36:12 < Rickta59> but you said it works on SPI2? 2016-05-04T22:36:15 < __rob> yea 2016-05-04T22:36:16 < Rickta59> why not just run it on that 2016-05-04T22:36:18 < __rob> I need to use both 2016-05-04T22:36:28 < Rickta59> use the other one for something else 2016-05-04T22:36:55 < __rob> well its too late for that now 2016-05-04T22:37:00 < __rob> I have a board setup 2016-05-04T22:37:23 < __rob> can't imagine SPI1 rx is broken with dma though 2016-05-04T22:37:34 < __rob> its an stm32f4vit6 2016-05-04T22:40:09 < Ultrasauce_> the rm mentions you need to disable jtag before configuring the spi1 gpios 2016-05-04T22:40:17 < Ultrasauce_> i dont remember having to do that but something worth checking 2016-05-04T22:41:35 < __rob> apparently thats just an AF setting to disable it 2016-05-04T22:41:42 < __rob> which is implicit when I enable the gpio for spi1 2016-05-04T22:43:33 < Ultrasauce_> nope 2016-05-04T22:46:04 < __rob> ohh wait yea, they dont share pins 2016-05-04T22:46:21 < __rob> but still, seems stragne I have to disable that before spi1 2016-05-04T22:47:13 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-04T22:54:27 < __rob> right 2016-05-04T22:54:29 < __rob> was the clock 2016-05-04T22:54:33 < __rob> matching them and it works 2016-05-04T22:54:49 < __rob> bit annoying.. 2016-05-04T22:54:56 < __rob> seemed ok on spi2 2016-05-04T22:55:15 < __rob> bit confused really 2016-05-04T22:55:22 < __rob> thats running with a huge prescaler value 2016-05-04T22:56:41 < __rob> but surely rx on the master is purely dependant on its own clock 2016-05-04T22:57:17 < __rob> infact I actually wonder what the baudrate prescaler is for on the slave at all 2016-05-04T22:58:50 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kyvrllpfkzzffdmi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-04T22:59:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-04T23:01:21 < Ultrasauce_> well presumably it's not running totally asynchronously in slave mode 2016-05-04T23:02:37 < __rob> no, but still works with different clocks 2016-05-04T23:02:43 < __rob> I've just changed the core clock to 130mhz on the master 2016-05-04T23:02:46 < __rob> slave is 100mhz 2016-05-04T23:02:54 < __rob> the master was 162.5mhz 2016-05-04T23:02:58 < __rob> thats all 2016-05-04T23:03:02 < __rob> now it all works 2016-05-04T23:03:14 -!- rs6467 [uid100379@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tllqwlxgdebvbyad] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T23:03:22 < Ultrasauce_> weird 2016-05-04T23:03:38 < __rob> yea, I'd quite like to know why it was breaking the data 2016-05-04T23:04:04 < __rob> whether it was actually the spi or the dma 2016-05-04T23:04:06 < Ultrasauce_> some bizarre logic hazard with the dma transactions? 2016-05-04T23:04:41 < Ultrasauce_> i havent tried slave mode on the f4 yet. i should do some experiments with it with the tegra 2016-05-04T23:04:46 < Ultrasauce_> which can push rather obscene bitrates 2016-05-04T23:04:52 < __rob> unfortunately there is too much code and its all already setup 2016-05-04T23:04:59 < __rob> I really need to do a simple test case project to see 2016-05-04T23:05:21 < __rob> bit annoying though 2016-05-04T23:05:32 < Ultrasauce_> yeah especially if you've got other clock constraints 2016-05-04T23:05:41 < __rob> thats eaten quite a bit of time for nothing.. 2016-05-04T23:05:49 < Ultrasauce_> programming dot jpeg 2016-05-04T23:06:18 < __rob> and no 'aaah hah' moment 2016-05-04T23:06:22 < __rob> still dont know what the fuck is going on 2016-05-04T23:07:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-04T23:07:09 < __rob> hopefully someone (jpa-) will suggest why that is 2016-05-04T23:16:20 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T23:17:15 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T23:22:05 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-04T23:30:09 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-04T23:32:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T23:33:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:6542:18ca:6f1b:cd92] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-04T23:33:43 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T23:36:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-04T23:45:18 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-04T23:46:11 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-04T23:48:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu May 05 2016 2016-05-05T00:05:45 < MightyPork> hey guys, is anyone here now? 2016-05-05T00:06:19 < MightyPork> need some expert advice on sending pcb to manufacturing if you wouldn't mind 2016-05-05T00:06:47 < MightyPork> it's a followup of the stm32f303 current analyzer I talked about here earlier 2016-05-05T00:06:58 < MightyPork> except now a "final" board. 2016-05-05T00:07:32 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-05T00:08:27 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T00:08:29 < MightyPork> and the question is - manufacturer says we should do "panelisation" ourselves, or it costs extra. Does that mean I just load it in CAM350, set number of boards, the right gaps, and export it as a new gerber? 2016-05-05T00:08:52 < MightyPork> it's the first time I'm sending a board to be made, so I'm nervous I'll mess everything up 2016-05-05T00:12:06 < karlp> talk to a better manufacturer? 2016-05-05T00:12:57 < kakimir> rubber hose drive in rc plane worked 2016-05-05T00:13:31 < kakimir> beyond succesful 2016-05-05T00:14:09 < kakimir> whole thing actually reached it's performance estimates 2016-05-05T00:16:33 < kakimir> I calculated 400m of accend 2016-05-05T00:16:37 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-05T00:17:21 < upgrdman> rubber hose drive? 2016-05-05T00:17:27 < upgrdman> wtf is that 2016-05-05T00:17:35 < Ultrasauce_> its like rubber hose decryption 2016-05-05T00:17:56 < kakimir> we did at least 4x75m accends and general figure 8 flying with barelly no power 2016-05-05T00:18:54 < kakimir> I wish I had pic but building was so intense I didn't remember to pic before it was closed with glue 2016-05-05T00:19:45 < kakimir> translucent kind of 6mm hose that has matching carbon fiber tube inside 2016-05-05T00:20:15 < kakimir> lathed axle and lathed nuts for motor axle 2016-05-05T00:21:08 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-05T00:21:26 < Laurenceb_> the Universe could be nothing more than a sub-atomic particle for yet another larger universe it sits in. In that larger Universe, our sub-atomic existence is in fact part of what makes up a carbon atom. Zoomed out, that carbon atom is bonded with an organic molecule! Zoomed out further still, it's part of a mass of extruded excrement laying on someone's lawn someplace; forced out by the most ugly dog imaginable; a v 2016-05-05T00:21:26 < Laurenceb_> ery very very large dog I might add. 2016-05-05T00:21:39 < Laurenceb_> is all I have to say 2016-05-05T00:23:31 < MightyPork> 'talk to a better manufacturer' didnt really help.. but thanks 2016-05-05T00:24:04 < ReadError> MightyPork the PCB fabricator should be able to do that 2016-05-05T00:24:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T00:26:07 < ReadError> also do you mean assembly of the pcb+board 2016-05-05T00:26:12 < ReadError> or getting the pcbs made 2016-05-05T00:26:28 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-05T00:27:05 < johntramp> kha: go ask at #freeems re open source engine management 2016-05-05T00:28:23 < MightyPork> ReadError: I have a board designed, and now I'm sending the gerbers and drill data to get it manufactured 2016-05-05T00:29:33 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-05T00:30:06 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKZXFleGZCeWZZM1U/view?usp=sharing last 1.5 minutes of last 3minutes is quite okay 2016-05-05T00:30:12 < kakimir> vertical video alert 2016-05-05T00:30:19 < kakimir> also 360p 2016-05-05T00:30:48 < ReadError> oh ya if you are using some shitty china place 2016-05-05T00:31:00 < ReadError> and want panels, yea u might have to do it 2016-05-05T00:31:09 < kakimir> noise it makes at begining is axle not fully pulled against bearing yet 2016-05-05T00:31:10 < ReadError> what place are you using? 2016-05-05T00:31:25 < MightyPork> it's a local manufacturer, not china 2016-05-05T00:31:35 < MightyPork> http://www.pragoboard.cz/ 2016-05-05T00:31:59 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T00:32:04 < ReadError> what software do you use? altium? 2016-05-05T00:32:18 < MightyPork> orcad, and now panelized it with cam350 2016-05-05T00:32:30 < MightyPork> or rather "panelized", no idea if it's good 2016-05-05T00:34:45 < MightyPork> this is what it looks like now (some films): http://data.ondrovo.com/i/Screenshot_2016-05-04_23-33-43.png 2016-05-05T00:37:34 < ReadError> sucks the guy wont do it, would take him a few minutes and it would be pro 2016-05-05T00:38:00 < ReadError> oh heh thats the easy part 2016-05-05T00:38:13 < MightyPork> ikr its like two clicks in that program 2016-05-05T00:38:49 < ReadError> adding the bars/rails and then vscores 2016-05-05T00:38:53 < ReadError> and Rout 2016-05-05T00:39:00 < ReadError> thats when it gets fun 2016-05-05T00:39:10 < ReadError> or a PITA.. 2016-05-05T00:45:56 < kakimir> dongs: ESC needed just throttle ranging.. shitty thin not used for years had propably lost config 2016-05-05T00:46:31 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-05T00:47:03 < 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use magnetometers and with all that yaw drift it just wouldn't make sense to do angle 2016-05-05T04:54:35 < englishman> usually yaw is just rate 2016-05-05T04:54:39 < englishman> even when you have mag 2016-05-05T04:54:42 < Rob235> yea 2016-05-05T04:54:51 < Rob235> I figured but wanted to make sure, never flown one 2016-05-05T04:55:01 < Rob235> I was trying to imagine flying with angle 2016-05-05T04:56:18 < Rob235> you wouldn't be able to keep turning though so that would suck 2016-05-05T05:33:29 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T05:43:00 < englishman> dongs: zano delivered http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__91169__Quanum_FollowMe_Aerial_Action_Camera_Drone.html 2016-05-05T05:52:01 < englishman> yes, space monster 2016-05-05T06:08:15 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T06:16:36 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-05T06:26:04 < Rob235> so close so close so close 2016-05-05T06:31:33 < Rob235> hello 2016-05-05T06:31:49 < Rob235> my brain hurts 2016-05-05T06:34:29 < Rob235> I just need to scale a few values and walk through the code a few times to see what little things I may have missed and then testing/adjusting constants and then flight! 2016-05-05T06:35:19 < englishman> good luck rob 2016-05-05T06:35:26 < englishman> by chance are you a canadian? 2016-05-05T06:35:36 < Rob235> no, why do you ask? 2016-05-05T06:35:46 < englishman> oh nothing 2016-05-05T06:35:55 < englishman> thought i smelled some syrup 2016-05-05T06:38:05 < Rob235> I hope the testing phase doesn't take forever. I haven't even tested my motor library yet 2016-05-05T06:38:36 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-05T06:38:54 < Rob235> I wrote all the libraries I'm using 2016-05-05T06:39:09 < Rob235> I'm sure! :) 2016-05-05T06:39:43 < Rob235> depends on your reasoning 2016-05-05T06:40:47 < Rob235> it would give you a mounting point to put robot legs on and then it could run better 2016-05-05T06:41:43 < Rob235> to work more or call it a night 2016-05-05T06:42:29 < Rob235> I need 33% you can keep the extra .3% 2016-05-05T06:43:51 < Rob235> ::shakes hands:: 2016-05-05T06:44:28 < Rob235> I don't know what any of that means. Most of this stuff is completely new to me 2016-05-05T06:44:42 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-05T06:44:50 < englishman> tracopower? 2016-05-05T06:48:57 < Rob235> wow. the end of the month marks a year from when I started this project on arduino (switched it over to stm32 in November). 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-05T11:44:07 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-05T12:26:34 < Fleck> any good, free gui lib with many popular LCD drivers out there? 2016-05-05T12:35:45 < jpa-> if free as in gratis is enough, you can use tectu's ugfx 2016-05-05T12:36:07 < jpa-> or emwin provided through st for free 2016-05-05T12:40:48 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/m8KMwqz.jpg $14 baofeng UV3R 2016-05-05T12:40:55 < dongs> thats a lot of shit for 14 lulz 2016-05-05T12:41:06 < dongs> for a supposedly 3W radio 2016-05-05T12:41:56 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-05T12:42:14 < ReadError> dongs the baofengs with a lot of buttons are cheap too 2016-05-05T12:46:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-05T12:53:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e450e255.629-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-05T12:54:01 < dongs> i didnt need a lot of buttons 2016-05-05T12:54:06 < dongs> just for spawn to chat each other and shit 2016-05-05T12:54:18 < dongs> so that seemed like a pretty good deal 2016-05-05T12:55:24 < ReadError> ya they are great for the price 2016-05-05T13:00:38 -!- seshi [53ba6c08@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.186.108.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T13:09:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T13:15:07 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-05T13:15:19 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-05T13:15:45 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T13:20:14 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T13:25:51 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.212.115.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-05T13:33:21 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-05T13:34:24 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-05-05T13:35:05 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T13:38:43 < dongs> zyp, fyi, 427 rev3 is common all over cn now 2016-05-05T13:38:53 < dongs> should be no problem getting them if you need more later/ 2016-05-05T13:40:02 < zyp> nice 2016-05-05T13:40:32 < dongs> (which probly means its common elsewehre too, but at less retarded prices 2016-05-05T13:46:54 < dongs> what do I need to bill you for btw 2016-05-05T13:47:08 < dongs> acrin was handled? 2016-05-05T13:47:13 < dongs> just nfcboard + jvsusb? 2016-05-05T13:47:33 < zyp> not completely sure, can I get back to you about that later? 2016-05-05T13:47:38 < dongs> definitely 2016-05-05T13:48:54 < zyp> probably going to do volume order of those soon, if the other guy is happy with the protos 2016-05-05T13:49:02 < dongs> excellent 2016-05-05T13:49:30 < dongs> will gladly give away more shit 2016-05-05T13:50:00 < zyp> give away? 2016-05-05T13:50:36 < dongs> like on credit paid months/years later 2016-05-05T13:52:11 < dongs> ok time to blog out 2016-05-05T13:52:15 < dongs> got bunch of trash to assemble tormorow 2016-05-05T13:52:16 < dongs> bbl 2016-05-05T13:58:36 < dongs> wait 2016-05-05T13:58:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Shake-Charger/ 2016-05-05T13:58:37 < dongs> lol 2016-05-05T14:04:52 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-05T14:05:40 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T14:12:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e450e255.629-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T14:15:47 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-05T14:16:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.21] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T14:19:27 < kakimir> screen -rd 2016-05-05T14:21:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T14:21:55 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T15:11:11 < Lux> isn't that a failed scamstarter ? 2016-05-05T15:12:10 < Lux> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1071086547/ampy-power-your-devices-from-your-motion/description 2016-05-05T15:13:44 -!- Ultrasauce_ [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-05-05T15:15:08 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T15:23:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-05T15:30:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-05T15:31:33 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T15:37:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.215] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T15:38:27 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T15:40:40 < jadew> Lux, it's just a battery 2016-05-05T15:41:06 < jadew> a very expensive battery 2016-05-05T15:47:50 < jadew> the price you pay for being stupid 2016-05-05T15:48:08 < dongs> Lux: yeah 2016-05-05T15:48:31 < dongs> i mean, the tech obviously wo rks cuz there's those windup flashlights/radios 2016-05-05T15:48:36 < dongs> but those only need mA to work 2016-05-05T15:49:20 < jadew> except I don't think that device generates anything, EVER 2016-05-05T15:49:28 < dongs> ampy? yeah it does 2016-05-05T15:49:30 < dongs> just not enough to matter at all 2016-05-05T15:49:55 < jadew> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/002/705/131/6a1d74f74c6d68d169a2b96edb30d1c8_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1412715686&auto=format&q=92&s=fe00e2beb383a2c559d8c87aaea8aa32 2016-05-05T15:50:08 < jadew> I really don't think it does 2016-05-05T15:50:34 < jadew> those chunks of whatever that is are not inductors 2016-05-05T15:50:44 < jadew> and there are no leads coming out of them 2016-05-05T15:51:12 < jadew> it's just a backup battery + bullshit 2016-05-05T15:54:21 < dongs> yeah man thats dickstarter thing 2016-05-05T15:54:25 < dongs> choof did a teardown of acutal thing 2016-05-05T15:54:32 < dongs> its inductors, it does generate but not enough to matter at all 2016-05-05T15:55:34 < dongs> http://drop-kicker.com/2016/01/ampy-move-teardown-and-review/ 2016-05-05T15:58:20 < aandrew> those big whie things look like tampons, not inductors 2016-05-05T15:58:35 < dongs> http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/5/11595666/cst-01-kickstarter-dead-no-money-back oh my 2016-05-05T15:59:04 < dongs> zano'd 2016-05-05T16:00:02 < aandrew> oh I see they're not inductors 2016-05-05T16:00:12 < aandrew> they are plastic tubes with magnets, and the inductor slides over it 2016-05-05T16:00:19 < aandrew> typical motion capture garbage 2016-05-05T16:00:19 < dongs> rite 2016-05-05T16:00:51 < aandrew> sup 2016-05-05T16:00:55 < aandrew> I'm 0x28 today 2016-05-05T16:01:06 < dongs> godo job 2016-05-05T16:01:19 < Rob235> happy bday 2016-05-05T16:01:46 < Rob235> thats a big one isn't it? 2016-05-05T16:02:19 < jadew> happy birthday aandrew 2016-05-05T16:02:23 < aandrew> thanks 2016-05-05T16:02:34 < aandrew> well society makes it out like 40's some huge deal but I dunno 2016-05-05T16:02:45 < aandrew> it's a birthday. was never big on them 2016-05-05T16:02:55 < Rob235> yea same here 2016-05-05T16:02:58 < jadew> well, every multiple of 10 sounds like a big deal 2016-05-05T16:03:02 < aandrew> I want to buy two of these though: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-first-powerful-mini-tv-projector 2016-05-05T16:03:11 < Rob235> 40 and 50 especially though 2016-05-05T16:03:38 < dongs> aandrew: ... 2016-05-05T16:03:43 < dongs> ur not srs right 2016-05-05T16:03:48 < dongs> cuz its just a scam 2016-05-05T16:03:55 < aandrew> I mean my life is pretty nicely established. Nice house, kids, cars, business doing well... but it's not some magical thing, it's all hard work 2016-05-05T16:03:58 < aandrew> dongs: you think so? 2016-05-05T16:04:00 < dongs> reselling liek 100lm 800x480 projector 2016-05-05T16:04:03 < dongs> aandrew: of course it is lol 2016-05-05T16:04:14 < aandrew> if it's not 1080p native I'm not interested 2016-05-05T16:04:18 < dongs> its not 2016-05-05T16:04:24 < aandrew> the DLP in it isn't 800x480 2016-05-05T16:04:32 < dongs> you can even buy same thing from alibaba now 2016-05-05T16:05:07 < dongs> i think its 480p or someshit 2016-05-05T16:05:10 < dongs> and definitely nowhere near as bright 2016-05-05T16:05:14 < dongs> you cant put 1000lm into that case 2016-05-05T16:05:18 < dongs> or generate it in there 2016-05-05T16:05:21 < dongs> without evaporating the case 2016-05-05T16:05:37 < aandrew> yeah I'm not concerned over brightness 2016-05-05T16:05:40 < aandrew> I'm not projecting movies 2016-05-05T16:05:49 < aandrew> projecting on to maybe 30" 2016-05-05T16:05:55 < qyx> 1000lm is not that big deal 2016-05-05T16:05:59 < qyx> ~8W with decent leds 2016-05-05T16:06:08 < aandrew> the DLP9000 is 2560x1600 native. 2016-05-05T16:06:22 < qyx> but surely it won't do 5 hours on the batetry 2016-05-05T16:06:43 < aandrew> don't care about battery either 2016-05-05T16:06:57 < aandrew> the point of wanting these is a decent dual screen display when I'm travelling 2016-05-05T16:07:00 < aandrew> hotel rooms etc 2016-05-05T16:07:21 < aandrew> two of those and a USB3 dual vga and small tripod in a pelican case 2016-05-05T16:08:09 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-05T16:08:12 < aandrew> in fact the first thing I'd do is remove the batteries 2016-05-05T16:08:55 < dongs> aandrew: http://i.imgur.com/Gv7YtuH.jpg 2016-05-05T16:09:30 < ReadError> wtf 2016-05-05T16:09:32 < ReadError> the demo vids 2016-05-05T16:09:36 < dongs> Max Resolution:1024*768 2016-05-05T16:09:37 < ReadError> they actually look 'okay' 2016-05-05T16:09:40 < dongs> Resolution:854*480 pixels 2016-05-05T16:09:44 < ReadError> in terms of brightness 2016-05-05T16:09:45 < dongs> ^ native rez 2016-05-05T16:09:57 < dongs> Bulb Power:120W 2016-05-05T16:09:58 < dongs> haha 2016-05-05T16:09:59 < dongs> l o l 2016-05-05T16:10:05 < aandrew> dongs: Optical Resolution:854x480dpi 2016-05-05T16:10:10 < dongs> eah 2016-05-05T16:12:05 < aandrew> the comments in the last month are all asking for refunds 2016-05-05T16:12:06 < aandrew> sigh 2016-05-05T16:12:10 < dongs> of course 2016-05-05T16:12:50 < aandrew> I guess if you want something you gotta build it yourself 2016-05-05T16:12:56 < aandrew> those DLPs are fucking expensive though :-) 2016-05-05T16:14:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-05T16:15:36 < aandrew> https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/2015-New-Mini-1080P-HD-PRL2S_60273711443.html?spm=a2700.7782932.1998701000.2.eqF5zy 2016-05-05T16:16:00 < dongs> probly scam too 2016-05-05T16:16:02 < aandrew> oh for fuck sakes 2016-05-05T16:16:02 < aandrew> 850 * 480Pixels) 2016-05-05T16:16:11 < dongs> Physical Resolution: WVGA / SVGA (850 * 480Pixels) 2016-05-05T16:16:11 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-05T16:16:22 < dongs> dude 1080p in that size just doesnt exist 2016-05-05T16:16:46 < ReadError> can they even kick out enough lulmens? 2016-05-05T16:16:49 < aandrew> $2700ea in qty100 for the DLP 2016-05-05T16:16:53 < ReadError> thats what im curious about 2016-05-05T16:18:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T16:21:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-05T16:21:26 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-05T16:21:28 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36213580 2016-05-05T16:22:29 < aandrew> ""But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot." 2016-05-05T16:22:32 < aandrew> what the fuck? 2016-05-05T16:22:32 < aandrew> hahaha 2016-05-05T16:22:38 < dongs> wat 2016-05-05T16:22:43 < dongs> more buttcoin drama? 2016-05-05T16:23:03 < Laurenceb_> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/03/bitcoin_craig_wright/ 2016-05-05T16:23:13 < dongs> saw that 2016-05-05T16:23:38 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-05T16:24:53 < jadew> I hope people will stop using bitcoin 2016-05-05T16:25:14 < jadew> because I don't have any bitcoins 2016-05-05T16:25:28 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-05T16:25:55 < Laurenceb_> I should pull some Craig Wright style deceptions 2016-05-05T16:25:56 < dongs> http://www.drcraigwright.net/ 2016-05-05T16:25:58 < dongs> lol 2016-05-05T16:26:01 < dongs> nice blog 2016-05-05T16:26:01 < Laurenceb_> way to get rich 2016-05-05T16:26:18 < Laurenceb_> An Hero 2016-05-05T16:27:28 < jadew> I don't know this guy, but he could have made a lot of cash from this lie 2016-05-05T16:27:54 < Laurenceb_> could have?! more like did 2016-05-05T16:28:04 < jadew> "hey, I made this technology!" - wait a couple of weeks for the info to sink in, but not enough to be called on the bluff 2016-05-05T16:28:35 < jadew> then go "it's flawed, I recently discovered a security issue that will eventually render it unusable" 2016-05-05T16:28:47 < jadew> "this is the new version: " 2016-05-05T16:29:11 < jadew> "a new kind of bitcoin that doesn't suffer from that vulenrabilit" 2016-05-05T16:29:33 < jadew> then let the money pour in, while bitcoin crashes and makes me happy in the process 2016-05-05T16:29:35 < aandrew> I like the theory that this was trying to discredit bitcoin either because someone's got a put on its value or because the banks want to try to raise support for their own altcoin 2016-05-05T16:29:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T16:30:31 < Laurenceb_> more likely Craig Wright wants to see his services to banks as a consultant for alt coins 2016-05-05T16:30:57 < jadew> I don't think this sort of coins are OK tbh 2016-05-05T16:31:15 < jadew> because of how they start 2016-05-05T16:31:44 < jadew> at first they're easy to obtain, so whoever comes up with them eventually becomes very rich 2016-05-05T16:32:16 < englishman> I mean my life is pretty nicely established. Nice house, kids, cars, business doing well... 2016-05-05T16:32:22 < englishman> lucky for you you dont live in fort mac then 2016-05-05T16:32:31 < jadew> what's fort mac? 2016-05-05T16:32:45 < englishman> pretty much a cinder 2016-05-05T16:33:12 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/26FGA2w.jpg 2016-05-05T16:33:35 < aandrew> yeah that place is in a bad way right now 2016-05-05T16:33:54 < aandrew> what started the wildfire? 2016-05-05T16:34:03 < jadew> the canadian city? 2016-05-05T16:34:23 < englishman> probably a drone crash followed by lipo fire 2016-05-05T16:34:29 < jadew> haha 2016-05-05T16:34:45 < Laurenceb_> what the heck 2016-05-05T16:34:57 < Laurenceb_> what was there to burn 2016-05-05T16:35:06 < jadew> a forest 2016-05-05T16:35:15 < Laurenceb_> a few tiny trees 2016-05-05T16:35:35 < englishman> https://www.instagram.com/p/BE_by7VKiwx/ 2016-05-05T16:36:20 < jadew> why is there fire there? 2016-05-05T16:36:37 < jadew> I guess the wind spread it 2016-05-05T16:37:18 < jadew> "quick, let's get insurance and GTFO of here" 2016-05-05T16:37:40 < englishman> yes 30c+ and 50km/h wind yesterday 2016-05-05T16:38:22 < Laurenceb_> wtf oh ok 2016-05-05T16:38:31 < Laurenceb_> never imagined it would be that hot 2016-05-05T16:39:08 < Laurenceb_> even so here in UK I'm surrounded by trees that large and its 37C in summer sometimes 2016-05-05T16:39:15 < Laurenceb_> but no giant fires 2016-05-05T16:39:44 < Laurenceb_> oh inb4 "feel the Bern" 2016-05-05T16:39:59 < jadew> I wonder if they could have bombed the forest before the fire got to the city 2016-05-05T16:40:02 < Rob235> it's the UK, isn't it always damp there? :) 2016-05-05T16:40:33 < jadew> like... clear a strip of trees so it would stop spreading 2016-05-05T16:41:02 < Rob235> controller fires are a common way to stop fires from spreading 2016-05-05T16:41:05 < Rob235> controlled* 2016-05-05T16:41:35 < Rob235> probably need a lot of time to plan it out though 2016-05-05T16:41:52 < englishman> jadew: this works irl yeah, but with this one, it started in the morning and the city of 80k was evacuated by 2pm 2016-05-05T16:41:55 < jadew> I was going to look for that clip with the guy who sets a few bushes on fire in the woods 2016-05-05T16:42:04 < jadew> and google suggested "guy torches cat" 2016-05-05T16:42:14 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-05T16:42:27 < englishman> dongs did you buy HK's zano 2016-05-05T16:42:38 < englishman> theres no controller 2016-05-05T16:42:40 < dongs> yes 2016-05-05T16:42:40 < englishman> just a watch 2016-05-05T16:42:43 < englishman> cool 2016-05-05T16:42:44 < dongs> watch? 2016-05-05T16:42:54 < englishman> clearly, you did not buy HK's zano. 2016-05-05T16:42:54 < dongs> oh, no 2016-05-05T16:42:57 < dongs> i bought $6 zano 2016-05-05T16:43:03 < dongs> CX-30W 2016-05-05T16:43:05 < dongs> "without controller" 2016-05-05T16:43:12 < dongs> that readstoner linked 2016-05-05T16:43:13 < englishman> lol nice 2016-05-05T16:43:23 < jadew> which one? 2016-05-05T16:43:28 < jadew> I want one too 2016-05-05T16:43:44 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162053733518? it shipped so... 2016-05-05T16:43:49 < dongs> i'm either getting zano or some socks 2016-05-05T16:44:57 < englishman> isnt cx-30w the one without any controller at all 2016-05-05T16:45:01 < jadew> it has a camera? 2016-05-05T16:45:28 < englishman> http://www.banggood.com/Cheerson-CX-30W-WIFI-Controlled-RC-Quadcopter-With-Transmitter-RTF-p-954670.html 2016-05-05T16:45:29 < englishman> wtf? 2016-05-05T16:45:32 < englishman> you're getting socks 2016-05-05T16:45:53 < jadew> does not ship to romania 2016-05-05T16:45:56 < jadew> damn 2016-05-05T16:46:17 < ReadError> englishman theres a flood of super cheap shit 2016-05-05T16:46:28 < ReadError> some 35xx 900kv sunnyguys 2016-05-05T16:46:30 < ReadError> for like 5bux 2016-05-05T16:46:37 < ReadError> 2212 2450kv for 3bux 2016-05-05T16:46:39 < englishman> that sounds real tho 2016-05-05T16:46:51 < englishman> any $60 gopros? 2016-05-05T16:46:56 < ReadError> nein 2016-05-05T16:47:11 < Rob235> why is it almost $2 more for yellow propellers? 2016-05-05T16:47:30 < englishman> the white ones they bought from zano auction 2016-05-05T16:47:43 < ReadError> whats teh HK zano? 2016-05-05T16:48:04 < englishman> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__91169__Quanum_FollowMe_Aerial_Action_Camera_Drone.html 2016-05-05T16:48:19 < ReadError> oh kawaii 2016-05-05T16:48:33 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=100987 2016-05-05T16:48:42 < ReadError> apparently tgreer is getting fucked on this 2016-05-05T16:48:45 < Rob235> dongs, I hope you don't get socks because I just ordered one 2016-05-05T16:48:49 < ReadError> someone didnt set read protection 2016-05-05T16:48:57 < englishman> isn tthat just desserts for working with clifton? 2016-05-05T16:49:08 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__103585__TauLabs_Sparky_2_0_32bit_Flight_Controller.html 2016-05-05T16:49:12 < ReadError> wtf 2016-05-05T16:49:23 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@84-236-88-25.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T16:49:23 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@84-236-88-25.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-05T16:49:23 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T16:49:52 < ReadError> i guess its kinda cool they are carrying some TL/dRonin gear 2016-05-05T16:53:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-05T16:59:47 < dongs> < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=100987 2016-05-05T16:59:51 < dongs> what happened here 2016-05-05T16:59:54 < dongs> why does this even exist 2016-05-05T17:00:09 < ReadError> for racin 2016-05-05T17:00:15 < dongs> yes why is it $22 2016-05-05T17:00:16 < ReadError> ir transponder for lap timing 2016-05-05T17:00:20 < dongs> its $1 of parts 2016-05-05T17:00:24 < ReadError> idk ;/ 2016-05-05T17:00:33 < dongs> is that attiny235 or whatever 2016-05-05T17:00:38 < ReadError> the real ones are even higher 2016-05-05T17:00:41 < ReadError> nah its stm32 2016-05-05T17:00:43 < ReadError> f0 ? 2016-05-05T17:00:46 < ReadError> tssop20 2016-05-05T17:00:56 < dongs> oic I didnt know here was shit on the back 2016-05-05T17:01:02 < dongs> rephrasing my question 2016-05-05T17:01:09 < dongs> jesus fuck why does this even exist 2016-05-05T17:01:21 < dongs> its a job for attiny25 on a single-sided pcb 2016-05-05T17:01:27 < dongs> or like 3x3mm STM8 2016-05-05T17:01:44 < ReadError> the 'real' one is 2016-05-05T17:02:03 < dongs> is this just a standalone shit or wsomething 2016-05-05T17:02:10 < ReadError> http://blog.owenson.me/reversing-ilap-race-transponders/ 2016-05-05T17:02:11 < dongs> all it does literallyt is just blast the fuckign code? 2016-05-05T17:02:14 < ReadError> sorry not attiny 2016-05-05T17:02:52 < ReadError> The iLap transponder had its code protected so I abandoned that. The SPF transponders did not and I promptly plugged it into my STLINK programmer and pulled the firmware. Then started the process of decoding an STM32 firmware – of course, when you start, you’re just presented with a blob of bytes – finding where the code starts is the first step. 2016-05-05T17:18:53 < Laurenceb_> nice price on sparky 2 2016-05-05T17:21:44 < ReadError> http://m.banggood.com/Xiaomi-Yi-4K-Sports-Action-Camera-2-Ambarella-A9-Sony-IMX377-Sensor-F2_8-Touch-Screen-p-1053052.html 2016-05-05T17:21:46 < ReadError> retwattering 2016-05-05T17:23:03 < dongs> RIP gobro 2016-05-05T17:23:25 < dongs> Video Resolution & Frame Rate: 2016-05-05T17:23:25 < dongs> 4K – max. 30fps 2016-05-05T17:23:25 < dongs> 1080p – 120fps 2016-05-05T17:23:26 < dongs> 720p – 240 fps 2016-05-05T17:23:26 < dongs> nice 2016-05-05T17:23:52 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-05T17:23:57 < ReadError> was just fapping to that 2016-05-05T17:24:02 < dongs> btw lurn to banggood link www.banggood.com/search/1053052.html 2016-05-05T17:24:36 < ReadError> when are these fgts getting them in stock, is the real question 2016-05-05T17:24:59 < ReadError> gorilla glass too noice 2016-05-05T17:25:26 < ReadError> 640x360 330ppi screen 2016-05-05T17:25:51 -!- vvirag [~vvirag@unaffiliated/vvirag] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-05T17:28:43 < Laurenceb_> why shit 2016-05-05T17:28:48 < Laurenceb_> wow 2016-05-05T17:28:51 < Laurenceb_> buying 2016-05-05T17:29:03 < Laurenceb_> 240fps ftw 2016-05-05T17:37:28 < ReadError> YOU CANT 2016-05-05T17:37:34 < ReadError> its not for sale yet ;( 2016-05-05T17:37:50 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T17:49:49 < Sync> somebody needs to make a globel shutter action camera 2016-05-05T17:50:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T17:50:44 < upgrdman> typical chinaman http://i.imgur.com/YmbzezQ.gifv 2016-05-05T17:57:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T17:58:15 < __rob> action camera ?, like gopro ? 2016-05-05T17:58:44 < ReadError> not familiar with global shutter 2016-05-05T17:58:54 < __rob> exposure at the same time 2016-05-05T17:59:22 < __rob> on all pixels, instead of rolling like ur phone where it exposes and reads out line by line 2016-05-05T17:59:52 < ReadError> oh thats neat 2016-05-05T18:00:04 < __rob> pretty standard on anything not hobby grade 2016-05-05T18:00:05 < ReadError> does the sensor record each thing at the same time? 2016-05-05T18:00:10 < ReadError> and cache it? 2016-05-05T18:00:12 < __rob> yea, it buffers the l,ot 2016-05-05T18:00:15 < __rob> then you read out 2016-05-05T18:00:31 < __rob> I am using the cmv8000 from these guys http://www.cmosis.com/products/standard_products/area_scan_sensors 2016-05-05T18:00:56 < __rob> and that does exactly that, exposing the next as you read out the last 2016-05-05T18:01:10 < Sync> yeah, unfortunately they are pretty spendy standalone 2016-05-05T18:01:28 < __rob> that sensor was about £500 2016-05-05T18:01:35 < __rob> but that is just the sensor 2016-05-05T18:01:42 < Sync> got a grasshopper 3 that does 1080 with global shutter 2016-05-05T18:01:50 < Sync> but the datarate is (unsuprisingly) huge 2016-05-05T18:02:26 < __rob> the cmv20000 from those guys is 24MP at 30 fps 2016-05-05T18:02:37 < Sync> yeah it is pretty seksi 2016-05-05T18:02:41 < __rob> think its 64 lvds lanes 2016-05-05T18:02:45 < Sync> we got a few engineering samples at work 2016-05-05T18:02:58 < __rob> ohh nice! 2016-05-05T18:03:19 < __rob> I've not got the datasheet for that one 2016-05-05T18:03:23 < Laurenceb_> interesting, I want high speed stuff for rocketry applications 2016-05-05T18:03:34 < __rob> was interested to know how fast you can go if you window vertically 2016-05-05T18:03:40 < Sync> be prepared to pay out of the ass and live the NDA lyfe 2016-05-05T18:03:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-05T18:03:56 < __rob> I did the nda for the others 2016-05-05T18:04:02 < Laurenceb_> but I have limited mass budget 2016-05-05T18:04:05 < Laurenceb_> about 200grams 2016-05-05T18:04:05 < __rob> just didn't ask for that one, so preumably they will send it if requested 2016-05-05T18:04:20 < Laurenceb_> atm I have GoPro4, but its so glitchy :( 2016-05-05T18:04:36 < __rob> although I think that one has a note that you have to sign to say your not using it for certain things 2016-05-05T18:04:50 < Sync> iirc yeah 2016-05-05T18:04:59 < Sync> idk how we ended up with them tho 2016-05-05T18:05:06 < __rob> want to sell them ? 2016-05-05T18:05:11 < Sync> I can't 2016-05-05T18:05:17 < __rob> want to loose them 2016-05-05T18:05:18 < __rob> and sell them ? 2016-05-05T18:05:22 < __rob> :) 2016-05-05T18:06:10 < Sync> I think the project is still running 2016-05-05T18:06:12 < Sync> so eh 2016-05-05T18:06:17 < __rob> ahh 2016-05-05T18:06:30 < Sync> I'd have to poke around 2016-05-05T18:06:58 < __rob> bit too much data tho really do to much with unless you implment everything on board 2016-05-05T18:07:03 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-05T18:07:09 < __rob> think the cmv12000 hits the sweet spot for fps too 2016-05-05T18:07:40 < __rob> 300 at 4k 2016-05-05T18:07:48 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-05T18:07:51 < Sync> that's pretty neat 2016-05-05T18:10:32 < TheSeven> hm, does anyone have a clue why an STM32F030F4P6 would lock up while trying to do an I2C transfer on PA9/10 if running from a 25MHz xtal (all internal clocks are 45MHz), but not when running from HSI (at 44 or 48 MHz)? 2016-05-05T18:13:40 < dongs> er. 2016-05-05T18:13:55 < dongs> how do you get 45mhz out of 25 2016-05-05T18:13:59 < TheSeven> PLL? 2016-05-05T18:14:05 < dongs> but why 2016-05-05T18:14:09 < TheSeven> but it looks like there's a clock mux in front of I2C1 that's probably set wrong 2016-05-05T18:14:18 < TheSeven> because it's the closest to 48 that I can get out of that xtal? 2016-05-05T18:15:02 < dongs> why didnt you use 24mhz? 2016-05-05T18:15:21 < TheSeven> because this is a one off project and I just had a ton of 25MHz xtals around for ethernet stuff 2016-05-05T18:15:35 < TheSeven> and I don't really care about the exact clock speed either 2016-05-05T18:24:43 < Laurenceb_> because its i2c 2016-05-05T18:24:45 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqewsxisjhftmbfq] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T18:25:14 < Laurenceb_> __rob: any ideas if there is anything better than gopro if I want >200fps in <200grams ? 2016-05-05T18:27:05 < dongs> yes, that chinkcam 2016-05-05T18:27:10 < dongs> just wait a couple weeks for it to be out 2016-05-05T18:27:35 < Laurenceb_> heh I guess 2016-05-05T18:27:50 < Laurenceb_> I was wondering what pro kit there is, but thats going to be heavy 2016-05-05T18:29:05 < karlp> fuck yes. windows xp to the rescue! 2016-05-05T18:31:56 < karlp> had to shuffle a bunch of backups and find a free partition and wait through the install, but yay, finally managed to run the renesas usb controller fw update, and... it works :) 2016-05-05T18:32:42 < dongs> oh cool 2016-05-05T18:32:47 < dongs> what did you upgrad it to? 2016-05-05T18:32:51 < dongs> that shit off french site? 2016-05-05T18:34:51 < karlp> yeah 2016-05-05T18:36:10 < dongs> excellent 2016-05-05T18:40:13 < karlp> was fucking luycky my bios had an option to present sata as IDE. 2016-05-05T18:40:24 < karlp> xp doesn't know about sata on the install cd :) 2016-05-05T18:40:30 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-05T18:43:08 < dongs> right 2016-05-05T18:44:37 < karlp> was a bit tedious. turns out my bios can do usb boot, but not all "usb boot images" work 2016-05-05T18:44:51 < karlp> anyway, moving fucking forwards. 2016-05-05T18:45:03 < dongs> maybe too late 4 u but i think pbx.mine.nu/bootcd.iso would boot and have enough windows environment to run flasher 2016-05-05T18:45:04 < karlp> no idea why this coulddn't be done from linux with setpci shits. 2016-05-05T18:45:07 < dongs> its WinPE 2016-05-05T18:45:14 < karlp> yeah, I was trying to find a winpe image, 2016-05-05T18:45:19 < karlp> but didn't want to burn more cds. 2016-05-05T18:45:32 < karlp> and the two I'd tried were not "sufficiently correct" to let my bios boot them. 2016-05-05T18:45:38 < karlp> some usb boot things booted, some not. 2016-05-05T18:45:45 < karlp> was getting tired of it. 2016-05-05T18:46:02 < karlp> remembered I had an old store bought legit xp install cd my dad had bought for some reason 2016-05-05T18:46:07 < karlp> instant success. 2016-05-05T18:54:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.70] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T19:01:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-05T19:30:39 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-QFRwVt8/0/X2/CA_05051612292474-X2.jpg 2016-05-05T19:30:53 < ReadError> black substrate looks neat 2016-05-05T19:32:17 < Sync> schwag 2016-05-05T19:32:42 < Sync> I wonder how conductive they are 2016-05-05T19:35:20 < ReadError> what are 2016-05-05T19:37:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e450e255.629-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-05T19:37:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T19:37:34 < Sync> the pcbs 2016-05-05T19:39:00 < ReadError> oh its 1oz copper 2016-05-05T19:39:03 < ReadError> so w/e that is 2016-05-05T19:39:10 < ReadError> or you mean the substrate? 2016-05-05T19:41:33 < Sync> yes 2016-05-05T19:41:49 < Sync> usually black is carbon, so conductive 2016-05-05T19:47:47 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T19:50:09 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-05T19:51:54 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T19:53:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-05T20:00:32 < ReadError> Sync its just colored I think 2016-05-05T20:05:33 < Sync> ReadError: where did you buy that shiet? 2016-05-05T20:07:31 < ReadError> ebay 2016-05-05T20:14:08 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T20:17:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.198] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T20:18:23 < Sync> hm 2016-05-05T20:18:27 < Sync> can't find it 2016-05-05T20:27:44 < upgrdman_> what happens if you use a toroid at a freq higher than its good for. does it just get warmer as it dissipates more energy instead of storing/releasing it? 2016-05-05T20:34:09 < aandrew> my limited knowledge of inductors is that you'll increase eddy current losses and the inductor may (most likely will) have poorer performace at a frequency it wasn't designed for, but if you don't push it outside of its SOA that's all that'll happen: heat. 2016-05-05T20:36:06 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-05T20:37:48 < Ultrasauce> and for the love of god make a video if you're gonna push a kilowatt through it 2016-05-05T20:38:40 < Ultrasauce> magic smoke > rpi tutorials 2016-05-05T20:48:48 < Laurenceb_> make a video blog 2016-05-05T20:50:46 < ReadError> http://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1dZ.QJpXXXXbdXXXXq6xXFXXXd.jpg\ 2016-05-05T20:50:49 < ReadError> http://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1dZ.QJpXXXXbdXXXXq6xXFXXXd.jpg 2016-05-05T20:52:08 < Ultrasauce> that is fantastic 2016-05-05T20:58:32 < BrainDamage> inductance will also lower 2016-05-05T21:06:35 -!- seshi [53ba6c08@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.186.108.8] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-05T21:08:35 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-05T21:32:04 < Laurenceb_> is dat some NAZE 2016-05-05T21:33:41 < Ultrasauce> dji naze 2016-05-05T21:41:27 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/zKIGC.jpg 2016-05-05T21:42:17 < Laurenceb_> #highaltitude reference spotted 2016-05-05T21:44:46 < Ultrasauce> i dont think he's done anything flying 2016-05-05T21:44:54 < Ultrasauce> he does have an underwater hamster habitat though 2016-05-05T21:46:02 < BrainDamage> source is http://plasticbrickautomaton.com/ he has some good stuff there 2016-05-05T21:47:48 < Laurenceb_> nice 2016-05-05T21:47:56 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if thats a Howyee or a Totex 2016-05-05T21:48:12 < Laurenceb_> clamping of the balloon neck is accurate :D 2016-05-05T21:49:11 < Laurenceb_> nice http://plasticbrickautomaton.com/comics/107.jpg 2016-05-05T21:49:55 < BrainDamage> http://plasticbrickautomaton.com/?id=12 2016-05-05T22:13:11 -!- toobluesc [~toobluesc@104.131.145.187] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T22:36:36 < Rob235> omg I'm so tired of wiring this thing 2016-05-05T22:38:36 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-05T22:42:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T22:55:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-05T23:19:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-05T23:24:07 < jadew> I'm considering giving my resignation 2016-05-05T23:24:36 -!- CheBuzz- [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T23:25:10 < jadew> I wonder if I should just do it or stay in this unpleasant situation until I get another job 2016-05-05T23:25:24 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-05T23:25:24 -!- CheBuzz- is now known as CheBuzz 2016-05-05T23:25:24 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-05T23:25:24 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T23:26:17 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T23:28:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-05T23:38:25 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T23:39:58 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-05T23:43:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-05T23:44:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Fri May 06 2016 2016-05-06T00:02:13 < Steffanx> wouldnt it be a better idea to find another job first jadew? 2016-05-06T00:02:36 < Steffanx> unless you can get away with being unemployed for an unknown time of course 2016-05-06T00:03:03 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-06T00:08:29 < Steffanx> yankeeland stories. 2016-05-06T00:13:23 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T00:13:41 < Rob235_> I have to stick everything down but I like how it's coming out: http://imgur.com/a/0B2iB 2016-05-06T00:13:42 < jadew> Steffanx, I can get't get away with being unemployed since I have a family to sustain 2016-05-06T00:13:48 < jadew> but I can't work here either 2016-05-06T00:14:10 < jadew> the employer has failed to keep some promises that he made 2016-05-06T00:14:33 < jadew> also the payment is shit for my position and experience 2016-05-06T00:15:10 < jadew> I'm a bad ass software architect, with 10 years of working at this company and I make 60k/yr 2016-05-06T00:15:13 < jadew> that's shit 2016-05-06T00:15:40 < jadew> juniors get that 2016-05-06T00:15:46 < qyx> at 2016-05-06T00:15:48 < qyx> wat 2016-05-06T00:15:56 < qyx> in romania? 2016-05-06T00:16:09 < jadew> qyx, it's not a romanian company 2016-05-06T00:16:15 < Steffanx> 60k in romanian currency that is? 2016-05-06T00:16:22 < jadew> no, 60k USD 2016-05-06T00:17:05 -!- elektrinis-wrk [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T00:17:36 < jadew> now, instead of promoting me, they hired a CTO that's already up all in my business and he's less qualified then I am 2016-05-06T00:18:02 < jadew> that, after I had a discussion with the CEO and he assured me that the new CTO will handle a different branch of the business and will stay out of my way 2016-05-06T00:18:10 < Steffanx> That is 60k after all the taxes and stuff? 2016-05-06T00:18:16 < jadew> no, before 2016-05-06T00:18:36 < jadew> they don't offer any benefits since I'm considered an external contractor 2016-05-06T00:18:40 < jadew> which of course sucks 2016-05-06T00:19:11 < jadew> I don't get licenses on company money nor hardware 2016-05-06T00:20:37 < jadew> anyway, the point is that I feel like there's no chance to advance 2016-05-06T00:21:07 < jadew> and they seem to try to hire me a boss 2016-05-06T00:21:35 < jadew> instead of promoting me and giving me a proper sallary 2016-05-06T00:22:12 < jadew> I got a total of 8k/yr raise in 10 years 2016-05-06T00:22:55 < jadew> that's not normal, no? 2016-05-06T00:23:17 < jadew> unless you're in a dead end job 2016-05-06T00:24:27 < Sync> it depends 2016-05-06T00:26:54 < jadew> Sync, what do you mean? 2016-05-06T00:27:59 < Sync> if you got an 8k/yr raise you must have made -20k in year 1 :P 2016-05-06T00:28:13 < Sync> but it is not super uncommon, at least in germany to have such a low wage progression 2016-05-06T00:28:14 < jadew> no, I meant 8k total 2016-05-06T00:29:17 < jadew> Sync, problem is I had some promotions too 2016-05-06T00:30:27 < jadew> also, I'm the best developer here and mentor to all the other guys, I've been with the company since the begining and I've designed and written most of the software (which is where the money comes from) 2016-05-06T00:30:59 < jadew> I feel exploited 2016-05-06T00:31:34 < Laurenceb_> at least you have a proper job, I'm working freelance 2016-05-06T00:32:25 < jadew> yeah, but it sucks 2016-05-06T00:32:58 < jadew> I asked for more senior developers and I got to interview a bunch of indians and pakis that couldn't put a function together 2016-05-06T00:34:09 < jadew> why? because these are the only ones who fit the offered sallary, which was very close to mine 2016-05-06T00:34:15 < karlp> wow, 32gig sandisk stick is _way_ faster than 16gig sandisk stick. 2016-05-06T00:34:25 < karlp> like, order of magnitude faster write speeds. 2016-05-06T00:34:35 < karlp> was not expecting that sort of difference! 2016-05-06T00:34:42 < Steffanx> also 3.0? 2016-05-06T00:34:50 < karlp> yeah, same model, just 16 vs 32. 2016-05-06T00:35:11 < karlp> I lost one at work, bought a 16gig, colleage came in the next day with a 32gig for me as payback, 2016-05-06T00:35:17 < karlp> just trying them both out. 2016-05-06T00:36:29 < Fleck> jpa-: maybe got SSD1289 stemwin CUBE driver? 2016-05-06T00:36:53 < Steffanx> jpa- doesnt do stemwin. 2016-05-06T00:40:47 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-06T00:41:03 < Fleck> maybe he does, you just don't know :D 2016-05-06T00:41:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.20.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-06T00:41:51 < Steffanx> He is a man of principles, this would totally break those principles. 2016-05-06T00:42:42 < Fleck> and the principle is? Write your own stuff? 2016-05-06T00:43:27 < Steffanx> or open sores 2016-05-06T00:43:43 < Steffanx> / non-restrictive license 2016-05-06T00:51:24 < Fleck> I would like to use open-source non-restrictive license lib too, but, can't find any 2016-05-06T00:55:30 < zyp> what kind of graphics do you want to do? 2016-05-06T00:55:57 < Fleck> random circles, squares etc... :D 2016-05-06T00:56:09 < Fleck> some texts would be cool also 2016-05-06T00:56:26 < zyp> sounds simple, just write your own 2016-05-06T00:58:39 < Steffanx> u8glib was always pretty lightweight, but it says "for arduino" nowadays. 2016-05-06T00:58:46 < Fleck> ;p 2016-05-06T01:00:43 < Steffanx> and this is how fleck starts his own lib. 2016-05-06T01:01:00 < Steffanx> ( i remember mr Tectu started with ugfx in a similar way ) 2016-05-06T01:01:12 < Fleck> :P 2016-05-06T01:01:18 < zyp> I still need to write the shit I were going to 2016-05-06T01:01:51 < karlp> heh, did bresenham in uni for some shit. fuck doing that by hand again 2016-05-06T01:02:23 < zyp> haha 2016-05-06T01:03:29 < karlp> 16gig vs 32gig snaps for the curious: http://imgur.com/a/vmDLG 2016-05-06T01:04:11 < zyp> both new? 2016-05-06T01:04:19 < zyp> or is 16G used more than 32G? 2016-05-06T01:04:44 < karlp> both brand new. maybe a handful more writes on the 16gig 2016-05-06T01:04:59 < karlp> with 700meg writes instead of 10meg writes, the differences are much smaller. 2016-05-06T01:05:21 < karlp> both somewhat around 55MB/sec reads, 18/20MB/sec writes. 2016-05-06T01:09:17 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T01:11:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-06T01:18:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T01:20:37 -!- toobluesc [~toobluesc@104.131.145.187] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-06T01:23:08 < karlp> the stalls that the new extenral 2.5" driver I got does I find much stranger: http://imgur.com/a/7zVf7 2016-05-06T01:23:13 < karlp> but at least it averages out ok... 2016-05-06T01:24:27 < zyp> is that a WD? :p 2016-05-06T01:24:32 < zyp> ah 2016-05-06T01:24:34 < zyp> no, seagate 2016-05-06T01:24:34 < karlp> seagate 2016-05-06T01:24:42 < zyp> yeah, I see the model number 2016-05-06T01:24:54 < karlp> finding non-biased online reviews of this stuff seems virtually impossible. 2016-05-06T01:24:55 < zyp> just asking because I've seen WD drives have that behavior 2016-05-06T01:25:09 < karlp> so just decided to get the non-toshiba at a decent price. 2016-05-06T01:25:24 < karlp> tosh I couldn't make out whether they were lying or not with usb3 vs usb2, so just skipped them. 2016-05-06T01:25:49 < karlp> it's a bit of a pain filling it now, but should only be trickle filling it in future. 2016-05-06T01:25:52 * karlp shrugs 2016-05-06T01:26:01 < karlp> been a shitty week with computers, but it's allseemingly working now at last. 2016-05-06T01:26:16 < karlp> now I can get back to... I dunno. doing stuff that interests me on computers instead hopefully :) 2016-05-06T01:26:36 < BrainDamage> like setting them on fire 2016-05-06T01:29:52 < jadew> I submitted my resignation 2016-05-06T01:32:09 * karlp cheers 2016-05-06T01:32:13 < karlp> kill your job! 2016-05-06T01:32:37 < jadew> it's a weird feeling 2016-05-06T01:35:59 < zyp> I haven't tried that yet, I'm just getting fired 2016-05-06T01:36:10 < jadew> heh 2016-05-06T01:37:12 < zyp> I'm apparently being moved to the sister company of my current employer 2016-05-06T01:37:14 < zyp> I hope 2016-05-06T01:37:32 < jadew> I just hope a junior I hired a couple of months ago won't get sacked because of me, I tried to put a good word for him in the resignation letter 2016-05-06T01:38:50 < jadew> zyp, I have a collegue that went through that 2016-05-06T01:38:56 < jadew> he's not particularly happy about it 2016-05-06T01:38:58 < zyp> so far I've received the termination letter from my current employer, but I haven't gotten a contract from the sister company yet :p 2016-05-06T01:39:09 < jadew> heh 2016-05-06T01:39:38 < zyp> so worst case I'm unemployed again in a few weeks, that would suck 2016-05-06T01:39:50 < jadew> is it that bad? 2016-05-06T01:40:15 < zyp> I don't think it is, I just feel a little bit uneasy not having the contract yet 2016-05-06T01:40:56 < zyp> esp. considering the unemployment benefits I'm currently entitled to won't cover both my rent and payments on my car loan 2016-05-06T01:41:17 < zyp> didn't expect me to find myself without a job again so soon when I bought a new car 2016-05-06T01:41:31 < jadew> yeah, that would suck 2016-05-06T01:43:32 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-06T01:44:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T01:45:50 < Laurenceb_> I need to get a new job soon :S 2016-05-06T01:46:23 < Laurenceb_> I hear Tesla are hiring in UK lul 2016-05-06T01:46:28 < Laurenceb_> PIC junk tiem 2016-05-06T01:49:34 < Laurenceb_> I'm not _that_ desperate for a job 2016-05-06T02:07:02 < Sync> you need to innovate your hoers tracker more 2016-05-06T02:07:14 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-06T02:07:45 < Laurenceb_> spacex launch time is annoying :-/ I don't get to watch the assplosion 2016-05-06T02:08:06 < BrainDamage> you could make a dildo that tracks the user anger and make usage mandatory to login into those imageboards you like 2016-05-06T02:08:22 < BrainDamage> every post would have the attached anger rating 2016-05-06T02:09:33 < Laurenceb_> a cunning plan 2016-05-06T02:10:04 < Laurenceb_> maybe a giant Badger 2016-05-06T02:10:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2PdyxMtiYM 2016-05-06T02:12:37 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T02:13:05 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T02:18:09 < upgrdman> karlp, that external hdd, is it powered by usb? 2016-05-06T02:18:23 < karlp> heh, no wonder I can't find much real datasheets on this usb controller, turns out it was released by nec in 2009, _ahead_ of intel releasing the xhci spec, it was based on the draft docs 2016-05-06T02:18:41 < upgrdman> i have a usb3 hdd, and when plugged into my surface it works great. when plugged into my surface dock (a powered usb3 hub + more) i had problems 2016-05-06T02:18:56 < upgrdman> turns out, my dock foudn the hdd to be draw just a tad to much power 2016-05-06T02:19:01 < upgrdman> so it would cut out intermittently 2016-05-06T02:19:10 < karlp> claims to be the _first_ usb3 controller chip: http://www.techspot.com/news/34763-nec-introduces-worlds-first-usb-30-host-controller.html 2016-05-06T02:19:18 < karlp> upgrdman: usb3, 2.5" bus powered. 2016-05-06T02:19:23 < upgrdman> i tried a usb3 y cable... problem fixed. so, your problem might be a power one. if you have a usb power meter you could check. 2016-05-06T02:19:39 < karlp> might be, yeah, but it doesn't drop off, just seems to stall. 2016-05-06T02:19:48 < upgrdman> i saw my drive pulling just over 1A, and the dock would freak out and cut power then give it power after a second 2016-05-06T02:19:58 < karlp> not going to b uy a usb3 y cable though. 2016-05-06T02:20:22 < upgrdman> thats how windows reacted with me too. drive just hung up for a few seconds, then resumed as if nothing happened 2016-05-06T02:20:23 < karlp> could try finding a power supply for the usb3 hub I have, but good luck finding china matching parts. 2016-05-06T02:20:36 < karlp> yeah, it's a pretty likely scenario 2016-05-06T02:20:44 < karlp> might take it to work and see what it does there. 2016-05-06T02:20:55 < karlp> anyway, I' 2016-05-06T02:21:15 < karlp> ve done nothing but look around for datsheets for this shit chip to play with setpci on linux, even though I've already fixed it. 2016-05-06T02:21:23 < karlp> learnt a bit more about pci, but fucking waste of time :) 2016-05-06T02:22:27 < Steffanx> better get pumping. 2016-05-06T02:22:32 < Steffanx> *to 2016-05-06T02:22:57 < Steffanx> tha sky mate. 2016-05-06T02:24:51 < Laurenceb_> linux sucks 2016-05-06T02:24:58 < Laurenceb_> but its still better than windows 2016-05-06T02:26:53 < Steffanx> donald trump has people to use windows. 2016-05-06T02:26:53 < Laurenceb_> maybe 4chan can confirm 2016-05-06T02:27:07 < Laurenceb_> /b/ aren't so keen on trump now 2016-05-06T02:27:24 < Laurenceb_> they think he should get back to shitposting on /b/ 2016-05-06T02:27:38 < Steffanx> pass crt 2016-05-06T02:27:54 < Laurenceb_> Trump is too mainstream now 2016-05-06T02:29:03 < Steffanx> dont you work for mr crt? 2016-05-06T02:29:45 < Steffanx> and mr crt has no work? 2016-05-06T02:30:37 < Laurenceb_> https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeSLalmQY8rfpsrY4xchVcKvA3y0HPws0sMei982y5JP59F8E4dg 2016-05-06T02:32:44 < Steffanx> but how can you not be home when you just work for mr crt, crt? Im confused. 2016-05-06T02:33:29 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWZK__-UsAAo7sc.jpg 2016-05-06T02:33:35 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-06T02:34:54 < Steffanx> ach so. 2016-05-06T02:35:44 < Steffanx> such great new features? 2016-05-06T02:36:39 < Steffanx> -_- 2016-05-06T02:41:18 < Laurenceb_> is keil better than gcc? 2016-05-06T02:41:49 < Steffanx> yes 2016-05-06T02:42:00 < Steffanx> the almighty d would say so 2016-05-06T02:42:35 < Laurenceb_> arm officially support gcc now 2016-05-06T02:42:48 < upgrdman> ya they went all GAE 2016-05-06T02:42:58 < Steffanx> have a good day at the factory/workshop/pumper house crt. 2016-05-06T03:00:04 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T03:05:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-06T03:09:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T03:09:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T03:16:53 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-06T03:22:53 < upgrdman> yay. i fixed my shit belkin usb2 hub. half the ports didnt work. there's two polyfuses in it, and one had a shit solder connection. reflowed both polyfuses... works noe. 2016-05-06T03:25:15 < upgrdman> well it works for ~1yr 2016-05-06T03:25:27 < upgrdman> i think the shit solder joint finally cracked or something 2016-05-06T03:25:38 < upgrdman> but ya, looked like china schoolgirl soldering 2016-05-06T03:25:48 < Thorn> it actually has polyfuses? 2016-05-06T03:25:58 < upgrdman> well they looked like polys 2016-05-06T03:26:03 < upgrdman> i didnt try to blow it 2016-05-06T03:26:17 < upgrdman> green translucent 1206 or something 2016-05-06T03:26:39 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-06T03:28:30 < upgrdman> bbl 2016-05-06T03:28:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-06T03:45:51 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-06T03:52:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T03:53:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T03:58:55 < upgrdman> lol. prolly old. http://i.imgur.com/GFz5JHJ.jpg 2016-05-06T04:04:55 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T04:09:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T04:09:58 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T04:13:14 < dongs> pics or it didnt happen 2016-05-06T04:24:10 < dongs> job 4 R2COM https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Microcontroller/Coding-for-Atmel-SAMC-SAME/ 2016-05-06T04:24:30 < Rob235_> http://imgur.com/a/0B2iB 2016-05-06T04:24:49 < dongs> afroesc spotted 2016-05-06T04:24:55 < Rob235_> yup 2016-05-06T04:25:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Develop-Electronic-LED-Drivers-Related/ 2016-05-06T04:26:17 < emeb> That story about the Australian airliner that was delayed because of the "Mobile Detonation Device" SSID. 2016-05-06T04:26:25 < emeb> I see a new application for ESP8266 boards... 2016-05-06T04:27:20 < Thorn> was there a web interface with a red button when you connected to that network 2016-05-06T04:27:33 < dongs> emeb: yeah, already renamed my phone hotspot to that 2016-05-06T04:28:10 < emeb> That's the new "FBI Surveillance Van" SSID 2016-05-06T04:29:37 < dongs> R2COM: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/03/aviation/qantas-scary-mobile-hot-spot-delays-flight/ 2016-05-06T04:29:53 < dongs> hilarious to teh max 2016-05-06T04:30:15 < dongs> i dont remember wat the outcome was I dont think they found it 2016-05-06T04:30:27 < dongs> i mean its easy to just rename it and claim innocense 2016-05-06T04:30:53 < ReadError> dongs home access point is named 'jew incinerator' 2016-05-06T04:31:08 < dongs> does SSID broadcast also include mac address? 2016-05-06T04:31:13 < BrainDamage> yes 2016-05-06T04:31:28 < dongs> i guess if they logged that then they could find it again even fi it was r enamed 2016-05-06T04:31:48 < BrainDamage> i doubt anyone had the capability or the means to 2016-05-06T04:31:58 < dongs> R2COM: sure he did 2016-05-06T04:32:04 < dongs> its same thing like standing up during flight and screaming"bomb" 2016-05-06T04:32:07 < emeb> yep 2016-05-06T04:32:08 < emeb> that 2016-05-06T04:32:22 < emeb> "shouting fire in a crowded theater" 2016-05-06T04:32:52 < BrainDamage> false alarm 2016-05-06T04:32:55 < emeb> one of the exceptions to 1st amendment 2016-05-06T04:34:18 < ReadError> i just thought of someting neat 2016-05-06T04:34:24 < BrainDamage> and russians don't have freedom of speech, your point? 2016-05-06T04:34:35 < ReadError> use the opposite side of the tag connector (bottom of board) as testpoints 2016-05-06T04:36:30 < ReadError> tell us how you really feel R2COM 2016-05-06T04:36:32 < lorenzo> lol 2016-05-06T04:37:10 < dongs> lolz 2016-05-06T04:37:12 < ReadError> dont hold back 2016-05-06T04:37:18 < dongs> rageout 2016-05-06T04:38:38 < dongs> freelance 2016-05-06T04:38:43 < dongs> i need to pcba. 2016-05-06T04:40:36 < ReadError> i need to finish routing like 3 wires for something and send it off 2016-05-06T04:40:53 < ReadError> but cant be motivated to do it 2016-05-06T04:41:14 < ReadError> i have been for a week 2016-05-06T04:45:59 < ReadError> i need to do a little f0* devboard thing 2016-05-06T04:46:16 < ReadError> and a 10x10cm utility board to send to china 2016-05-06T04:46:19 < ReadError> with useful shit 2016-05-06T04:47:53 < ReadError> R2COM do u have a steam controller? 2016-05-06T04:48:08 < ReadError> is it kawaii ? 2016-05-06T04:48:55 < ReadError> go on, tell me more 2016-05-06T04:49:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-06T04:50:46 < ReadError> i wonder whats up with this Steam Link 2016-05-06T04:50:57 < ReadError> i wanna see the guts 2016-05-06T04:51:46 < ReadError> ethernet-> hdmi/usb/wifi 2016-05-06T04:52:20 < ReadError> 50$ seems pretty cheap too 2016-05-06T04:52:37 < ReadError> whats the latency like? 2016-05-06T04:54:16 < ReadError> interesting choice on the touchpads 2016-05-06T04:54:25 < ReadError> how does that work in practice ? 2016-05-06T04:54:59 < ReadError> has 2 dont it 2016-05-06T04:55:42 < ReadError> R2COM 2016-05-06T04:55:49 < ReadError> on the steamlink 2016-05-06T04:55:59 < ReadError> does it fullscreen the host computer? 2016-05-06T04:56:07 < ReadError> or can I keep that open for other shit 2016-05-06T04:56:16 < ReadError> and just send the dumb game to the link 2016-05-06T04:56:40 < ReadError> like if I wanted to have a game open on the link 2016-05-06T04:56:48 < ReadError> pause it, go back to the pc to do some other shit 2016-05-06T04:57:10 < ReadError> yea, but can you force it to ONLY display on the steamlink 2016-05-06T04:57:18 < ReadError> or does it display some shit on the main monitor too? 2016-05-06T04:58:00 < ReadError> wank 2016-05-06T04:58:13 < ReadError> well i ordered one so will see 2016-05-06T04:58:47 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-06T05:00:30 < pumper> :D 2016-05-06T05:00:40 < dongs> r2pumper 2016-05-06T05:00:56 < dongs> Recent Activity41.0 hours past 2 weeks 2016-05-06T05:00:58 < dongs> isnt that like 2016-05-06T05:01:02 < dongs> typical work week 2016-05-06T05:01:07 < pumper> yeah 2016-05-06T05:01:10 < pumper> 35-40 hrs 2016-05-06T05:02:19 < dongs> only 40? 2016-05-06T05:04:02 < dongs> I'm at least 13 years old * 2016-05-06T05:04:03 < dongs> I have read and agree to these terms and conditions * 2016-05-06T05:04:05 < dongs> ??? 2016-05-06T05:04:08 < dongs> why would nvidia care 2016-05-06T05:04:09 < dongs> that im 134 2016-05-06T05:04:10 < dongs> 13 2016-05-06T05:04:16 < dongs> when signing up for some hardware info 2016-05-06T05:04:29 < upgrdman> any idea why there ~no 4k monitors with narrow bezels? my big ass 4k tv has a narrower bezel than my (and most other) 4k monitors. wtf. 2016-05-06T05:04:57 < ReadError> https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561198097346452/?cc=us 2016-05-06T05:05:04 < ReadError> https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561197960428400/?cc=us 2016-05-06T05:05:11 < ReadError> heh 13 years old 2016-05-06T05:05:22 < dongs> i mean im 13, so its no problem but 2016-05-06T05:05:26 < dongs> just curious why 2016-05-06T05:05:44 < upgrdman> sup 2016-05-06T05:11:06 < dongs> wat 2016-05-06T05:11:54 < dongs> just bloggin 2016-05-06T05:12:31 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/ACmQRMl.jpg 2016-05-06T05:12:59 < dongs> I read that as "getting blown" 2016-05-06T05:14:56 < ReadError> R2COM i cant find it 2016-05-06T05:14:59 < ReadError> but the account ID # 2016-05-06T05:15:04 < ReadError> mine is OG as fuck 2016-05-06T05:15:31 < ReadError> like registered the same day steam launched 2016-05-06T05:15:40 < ReadError> skipped school got blzed 2016-05-06T05:15:46 < ReadError> played CS all day 2016-05-06T05:17:42 < ReadError> ehh 2016-05-06T05:17:44 < ReadError> cs is still fun 2016-05-06T05:17:48 < ReadError> cs:go is gay 2016-05-06T05:17:56 < ReadError> cs:src is still cool 2016-05-06T05:17:59 < ReadError> or TF2 2016-05-06T05:18:03 < upgrdman> lol http://i.imgur.com/rf4gPFX.jpg 2016-05-06T05:19:00 < dongs> pro 2016-05-06T05:22:33 < pumper> oh wow 2016-05-06T05:27:14 < Rob235_> anyone try overwatch today? 2016-05-06T05:29:03 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-06T05:29:31 < dongs> hmm, cocks 2016-05-06T05:29:41 < dongs> i forgot that new small china side switch was not bad 2016-05-06T05:29:50 < dongs> made 150 new boards with dumb through-hole switch 2016-05-06T05:31:42 < pumper> delicious cocks 2016-05-06T05:50:15 < ReadError> Rob235_ i tried it for a few mins a while back 2016-05-06T05:50:22 < ReadError> there was a lot going on 2016-05-06T05:50:46 < Rob235_> open beta started, just played for about half an hour, I'm terrible 2016-05-06T05:56:23 < ReadError> link? 2016-05-06T05:56:24 < ReadError> maybe 2016-05-06T06:00:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T06:07:54 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.228] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T06:09:33 < pumper> bang 2016-05-06T06:10:56 < pumper> dek1096 2016-05-06T06:11:14 < dongs> Advanced Circuits Acquires Assets of Micom Circuits 2016-05-06T06:11:15 < dongs> AURORA, CO - Advanced Circuits, North America's 3rd largest printed circuit board fabricator, announced today that it has entered into a definitive agreement to acquire certain assets from Micom Circuits of New Brighton, MN. 2016-05-06T06:18:15 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.228] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-06T06:28:44 < upgrdman> ohsix, that football idiot, what is the problematic photo? 2016-05-06T06:30:15 < pumper> Advanced pumpers 2016-05-06T06:30:31 < pumper> The best pumpers in town 2016-05-06T06:31:01 < pumper> what is maron o6 2016-05-06T06:34:08 < pumper> ##stm32 is better than tv imo 2016-05-06T06:35:06 < ReadError> http://www.xipiter.com/software-exploitation-via-hardware-exploitation.html 2016-05-06T06:35:08 < ReadError> this would be fun 2016-05-06T06:35:14 < ReadError> but $4200 class 2016-05-06T06:40:16 < brianx> when connecting an stm32 with a VSSA, I know it has to be powered. The stm32f030cc chip i'm using has 9 more power/ground connections, do i have to connect every single one of them? 2016-05-06T06:40:49 < emeb_mac> depends 2016-05-06T06:40:56 < emeb_mac> how reliable do you want it to be 2016-05-06T06:41:19 < emeb_mac> if you're ok with it not working quite right all the time then there's no need to hook up all the power pins 2016-05-06T06:43:41 < emeb_mac> the VDDA and VSSA pins go to the analog section. all the rest go to a power ring that surrounds the chip 2016-05-06T06:43:50 < emeb_mac> drives all the I/O 2016-05-06T06:43:57 < dongs> k battery pack ordered now to figure out what the fuck to do with it 2016-05-06T06:44:08 < upgrdman> ReadError, lol. that pages link to the Shikra. a $45 breakout board for an ftdi. lolwut 2016-05-06T06:44:39 < emeb_mac> it's good to hook them all up so that the I/O pins have good power / gnd and don't suffer from groundbounce or power rail droop when the I/O toggles. 2016-05-06T06:45:19 < upgrdman> that ftdi board should be closer to $30 like this http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FTDI/C232HM-DDHSL-0/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsgIz308WEU04OSb1wr8kwWP%2fDtRNbgGzk%3d 2016-05-06T06:45:53 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T06:46:06 < Thorn> I had an lpc that failed to boot until I found an unsoldered power pin (only one) 2016-05-06T06:46:06 < brianx> thanks for asking that ohsix. VDDA and VSSA made sense. a total I/O load of under 1mA sourced and sunk plus cubemx's estimated 22mA for the chip didn't make a lot of sense to need 8 power pins. 2016-05-06T06:46:26 < Thorn> I think they have separate core and io power 2016-05-06T06:47:48 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-06T06:47:55 < dongs> brianx: what are you saving? are you m aking audiophile board wehre y ou don't put pads under unused pins to reduce jitter? 2016-05-06T06:48:46 < brianx> dongs: no, just a breadboard today and not wanting to have 10 power pins to contend with. 2016-05-06T06:49:27 < brianx> dongs: the final product will be on a board and can easily have all pins connected (i'm not the one routing it) :-) 2016-05-06T06:49:32 < dongs> why do you have a chip with 10 power pins on a breadboard 2016-05-06T06:49:39 < dongs> that sounds like at least lqfp144 2016-05-06T06:49:48 < dongs> or 100 or wahtever 2016-05-06T06:49:49 < brianx> lqfp44 only 2016-05-06T06:49:56 < dongs> stm32 doens't come in 44 pins 2016-05-06T06:49:59 < brianx> err 48 2016-05-06T06:50:06 < dongs> 48 only has 4 power pins 2016-05-06T06:50:13 < dongs> 3 vdd and 1 vdda 2016-05-06T06:50:17 < dongs> and 4 gnd 2016-05-06T06:50:24 < dongs> (or less, i forget) 2016-05-06T06:50:26 < dongs> nowhere near 10 2016-05-06T06:51:06 < brianx> you listed 8, and the 32f030cc has 2 more than you expected. 2016-05-06T06:54:45 < dongs> 'kay. so connect them all. 2016-05-06T06:54:53 < dongs> are you using some lqfp>dip adapter thingy? 2016-05-06T06:55:00 < brianx> i am 2016-05-06T06:55:19 < dongs> most sane people usually prototype on a -discovery board 2016-05-06T06:55:27 < dongs> this way bypassing/power/debugger is taken care of 2016-05-06T06:55:30 < brianx> the discovery isn 2016-05-06T06:55:38 < dongs> and you can just plug that into breadboard. 2016-05-06T06:55:43 < dongs> isn? 2016-05-06T06:55:44 < brianx> the discovery isn't available with a 32f030cc 2016-05-06T06:55:48 < dongs> it doesnt need to be 2016-05-06T06:55:53 < dongs> they're all pin/function compatible 2016-05-06T06:55:55 < brianx> why doesn't it? 2016-05-06T06:56:28 < brianx> so i can run my 5 serial port software and prototype on a chip that has 2 serial ports? 2016-05-06T06:58:09 < dongs> http://www2.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/product-evaluation-tools/mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-discovery-kits/32f0308discovery.html 2016-05-06T06:58:21 < dongs> on this one, yes 2016-05-06T06:59:00 < brianx> that has an STM32F030R8T6 2016-05-06T06:59:11 < dongs> and? 2016-05-06T06:59:20 < brianx> and the STM32F030R8T6 has 2 serial ports. 2016-05-06T06:59:42 < dongs> Communication interfaces 2016-05-06T06:59:46 < dongs> Up to six USARTs supporting master synchronous SPI and modem control; one with auto baud rate detection 2016-05-06T07:00:29 < brianx> up to. that's for the STM32F030 series. only the C chip has all 6 present. 2016-05-06T07:03:15 < brianx> note 3 page 22 and 23 of the datasheet. 2016-05-06T07:04:31 < dongs> thats pretty cool, never noticed any other series where the 2nd letter meant anything other than increasing ram/flash size 2016-05-06T07:05:09 < brianx> i'm new to stm32 so i read a lot. 2016-05-06T07:07:36 < brianx> nice ohsix, it'd be great to see a replacement. 2016-05-06T07:09:10 < brianx> dongs: so a reason for my particular insanity. though i do admit to being insane. 2016-05-06T07:10:16 < Chris_M|2> since the STM32F030R8T6 and the STM32F030RC are both LQFP64, you could get the discovery and swap out the MCU 2016-05-06T07:11:05 -!- Chris_M|2 is now known as Chris_M 2016-05-06T07:12:22 < pumper> my name is donald and i'm here with my cock 2016-05-06T07:13:06 < brianx> Chris_M: um.. i'm insane, not an expert in SMT soldering. there is no way i personally could swap out a LQFP48 chip 2016-05-06T07:13:55 < brianx> much less a LQFP64 chip. 2016-05-06T07:15:23 < Thorn> even I have done it 2016-05-06T07:15:43 < Thorn> (when you fry your prototype you may have no other choice) 2016-05-06T07:17:17 < ds2> it isn't hart to swap it out 2016-05-06T07:17:20 < ds2> hard 2016-05-06T07:17:36 < ds2> cut out the old chip and desire the remaining pins. clean with braid 2016-05-06T07:17:37 < ds2> resolder 2016-05-06T07:17:48 < brianx> you overestimate my soldering skills. 2016-05-06T07:18:03 < ds2> doesn't take much skills 2016-05-06T07:18:21 < ds2> you can flood it with solder and suck off excess w/braid 2016-05-06T07:20:13 < brianx> i've read about it, not ready to try it. 10 power/ground wires on a great big .1" breadboard is crowded enough for me. all that in 0.5mm is not something i'm planning on unless i can't get it to work any other way. 2016-05-06T07:23:21 < ReadError> woh 2016-05-06T07:23:26 < ReadError> st site looks crazy 2016-05-06T07:25:26 < Thorn> >STMicroelectronics announces the premature death of Otto Kosgalwies 2016-05-06T07:25:33 < Thorn> when is it scheduled to happen? 2016-05-06T07:29:57 < Chris_M> brianx: maybe this might help http://www.digikey.com.au/product-search/en?keywords=NUCLEO-F091RC 2016-05-06T07:29:58 < brianx> looks like it's scheduled for 04/19/2016 2016-05-06T07:34:38 < pumper> the STM32cube ate ST's website 2016-05-06T07:36:59 < pumper> i want a marijuana pizza 2016-05-06T07:37:50 < dongs> not stm32 2016-05-06T07:38:00 < brianx> Chris_M: i'd still have to prototype on the real chip to verify my code ran on the chip we're using in the product. that chip is more than twice the cost of the STM32F030CC 2016-05-06T07:41:19 < dongs> https://blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/ attn osx users 2016-05-06T07:42:18 < pumper> macfags get rolled 2016-05-06T07:44:00 < pumper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSo0zLbAsg 2016-05-06T07:48:08 < pumper> when was this released? 2016-05-06T07:48:13 < pumper> an intelduino 2016-05-06T07:48:37 < brianx> thanks emeb_mac, ohsix, dongs, Thorn, and Chris_M. for today, 10 power/ground pins with 6 decoupling caps, tomorrow maybe swap in a RC over a R8 chip. 2016-05-06T07:53:14 < Thorn> http://www.spacex.com/webcast begins 2016-05-06T08:03:19 < jpa-> hmm.. i wonder why no less than 1V Vdd microcontrollers exist.. does flash require "high" voltages to read? 2016-05-06T08:03:45 < pumper> i need R1017 2016-05-06T08:11:47 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T08:13:31 < dongs> o shit 2016-05-06T08:13:33 < dongs> jcsat14 2016-05-06T08:13:45 < dongs> thats a japsat 2016-05-06T08:14:25 < qyx> jpa-: which one is 1V? 2016-05-06T08:14:31 < pumper> my ceiling 2016-05-06T08:14:48 < dongs> oh hm 2016-05-06T08:14:53 < dongs> its gonna replace 154E sat 2016-05-06T08:14:53 < dongs> nice 2016-05-06T08:15:04 < dongs> ive got a dish pointed there 2016-05-06T08:15:17 < pumper> well 2016-05-06T08:20:57 < dongs> T-017 2016-05-06T08:21:33 < dongs> didnt blow up yet 2016-05-06T08:22:33 < jpa-> qyx: dunno if such exist, but i wanted <1V for operation on a single AA battery :) 2016-05-06T08:22:44 < jpa-> there is some factory-ROM MSP430 that does it 2016-05-06T08:23:14 < kakimir> today rogue paragliding 2016-05-06T08:23:30 < jpa-> but one sees ASIC thermometers etc. with <1V operation all the time, so it would be nice to be able to do similar with microcontroller 2016-05-06T08:24:26 < kakimir> if you dont hear about me in a month I'm either in coma or in oven 2016-05-06T08:25:57 < jpa-> are you going rogue paragliding or drogue paragliding? 2016-05-06T08:27:23 < kakimir> rogue 2016-05-06T08:27:51 < pumper> welcome back kakimir 2016-05-06T08:28:24 < kakimir> pumper: you crt? 2016-05-06T08:28:58 < pumper> of course 2016-05-06T08:29:07 < jpa-> kakimir: so basically stealing a chute? :) 2016-05-06T08:30:11 < dongs> fuckers landed it 2016-05-06T08:31:45 < kakimir> basically someone givin me chute and let me fly without precautions such as expensive school 2016-05-06T08:33:50 < jpa-> ok, sounds totally reasonable thing to do, have fun 2016-05-06T08:34:12 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1stC7D3Hio 2016-05-06T08:40:40 < emeb_mac> nice landing there. 2016-05-06T08:48:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-06T08:53:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T09:01:19 < dongs> ??? 2016-05-06T09:01:21 < dongs> what doom 2016-05-06T09:01:22 < dongs> some new doom? 2016-05-06T09:01:27 < dongs> the last one sucked HARD 2016-05-06T09:03:29 < dongs> looks like a shitty opengl game 2016-05-06T09:04:59 < dongs> wut 2016-05-06T09:05:00 < dongs> ROTT remake 2016-05-06T09:05:26 < dongs> http://store.steampowered.com/app/217140/ 2016-05-06T09:10:03 < dongs> pumping. 2016-05-06T09:12:50 < dongs> huh no 2016-05-06T09:12:55 < dongs> youre just going to gay sites 2016-05-06T09:12:57 < dongs> that cant stay up 2016-05-06T09:13:20 < dongs> are tehy all from usa 2016-05-06T09:13:52 < dongs> probably shitty USA ISPs 2016-05-06T09:21:33 < dongs> uhhh 2016-05-06T09:21:34 < dongs> no idea man 2016-05-06T09:21:39 < dongs> i have win10 on like 3 machines 2016-05-06T09:21:40 < dongs> zero oissuess 2016-05-06T09:21:42 < dongs> i think youre just stoned 2016-05-06T09:23:27 < dongs> http://www.tenforums.com/attachments/network-sharing/51329d1448961148t-network-protocols-error4.png?s=4d6ac54bf8940732d0eeaefd2ded9d6d 2016-05-06T09:23:30 < dongs> apparently this 2016-05-06T09:23:56 < dongs> http://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/30073-network-protocols.html end of this dumb thread 2016-05-06T09:24:02 < dongs> just disable netbios over tcpip 2016-05-06T09:24:03 < dongs> i dunno 2016-05-06T09:24:07 < dongs> srsly i never had these issues 2016-05-06T09:24:45 < dongs> adapter p roperties or hwatever 2016-05-06T09:31:36 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-06T09:33:50 < dongs> japs dont do modems 2016-05-06T09:33:51 < dongs> so no idea 2016-05-06T09:34:08 < dongs> http://silliconangle.com/blog/2016/05/03/Craig-Wright-faces-criminal-charges/index.html haha 2016-05-06T09:34:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-06T09:36:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-06T09:42:09 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T09:43:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-06T09:44:27 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/V3K2pIG.jpg this stoner from another chan is gonna etch this board 2016-05-06T09:44:34 < dongs> double-sided toner transfer, lulz 2016-05-06T09:44:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T09:46:04 < dongs> ^ attn upgrdman 2016-05-06T09:46:24 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T09:49:29 < ReadError> oh dear 2016-05-06T09:55:02 < jpa-> wtf is up with that routing 2016-05-06T09:55:38 < jadew> jpa-, it's probably like that to avoid too many vias 2016-05-06T09:55:53 < jadew> if he's going to etch it himself, it means that he'll have to solder each via manually 2016-05-06T09:56:08 < ReadError> hes also using toner transfer 2016-05-06T09:56:14 < ReadError> and says those tiny traces will be fine 2016-05-06T09:56:16 < ReadError> .... 2016-05-06T09:56:25 < jadew> yeah, I don't think that'll work too well 2016-05-06T09:56:33 < ReadError> i dont either.. 2016-05-06T09:56:42 < jadew> I have trouble with photo transfer and low pitch 2016-05-06T09:56:43 < jpa-> probably he has managed it over small pcbs before 2016-05-06T09:56:59 < ReadError> tiny traces gonna get eaten alive 2016-05-06T09:57:04 < ReadError> assuming they even get xfer'd 2016-05-06T09:57:29 < jadew> ohsix, for photo transfer or for tonner? 2016-05-06T09:57:30 < jpa-> would make sense to separate it to two boards, one with all the low-pitch stuff, and another with the connectors/pots with big traces 2016-05-06T09:57:32 < ReadError> ohsix doubt you will be able to get the printer to shoot the exact same spot 2016-05-06T09:57:37 < jadew> for tonner you have to print with the darkest setting 2016-05-06T09:57:56 < ReadError> toner xfer is such a PITA 2016-05-06T09:58:06 < ReadError> UV is 100x easier and more consistent 2016-05-06T09:58:15 < zyp> what is that board? a bunch of pots and muxes? 2016-05-06T09:58:24 < jpa-> seems like audio stuff 2016-05-06T09:58:30 < jpa-> snake-gnd for extra effects 2016-05-06T09:58:32 < jadew> for photo transfer you can print two sheets and use them together 2016-05-06T09:58:34 < ReadError> synth 2016-05-06T09:58:53 < jadew> lol jpa- 2016-05-06T09:59:10 < zyp> I see usb for power, and some sort of coax connector for output 2016-05-06T09:59:23 < zyp> AC-coupled 2016-05-06T10:00:07 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cApe9s3t/IMG_1421.JPG 2016-05-06T10:00:17 < ReadError> did that lil one yesterday 2016-05-06T10:00:26 < ReadError> should have let it go a little longer but got impatient 2016-05-06T10:00:56 < ReadError> im lovin the black substrate though 2016-05-06T10:01:06 < jadew> where did you get that? 2016-05-06T10:01:09 < ReadError> ebay 2016-05-06T10:01:15 < jadew> that's cool 2016-05-06T10:02:43 < ReadError> its great having a home setup for stuff like this 2016-05-06T10:02:53 < jadew> for what stuff? 2016-05-06T10:03:00 < ReadError> I wouldnt do anything super serious, but being able to bang out a little board for testing is nice 2016-05-06T10:03:12 < ReadError> jadew anything really 2016-05-06T10:03:15 < ReadError> quick protos 2016-05-06T10:03:24 < ReadError> I try to keep everything single sided 2016-05-06T10:03:28 < jadew> ah, that's a general purpose proto board? 2016-05-06T10:03:42 < ReadError> that board is a hall sensor board 2016-05-06T10:04:03 < ReadError> I got some 2512 0ohms 2016-05-06T10:04:11 < jadew> you have a cut trace on the top one 2016-05-06T10:04:13 < ReadError> can route a shitload under them 2016-05-06T10:04:29 < ReadError> jadew ya i know, it could have spent a few more mins in the tank 2016-05-06T10:04:38 < ReadError> but my food was done and I was tired/hungry 2016-05-06T10:04:58 < jadew> ah, you have both a short and a broken trace heh 2016-05-06T10:05:18 < jadew> time to get the cutter out 2016-05-06T10:05:58 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/VEO3T lol 2016-05-06T10:06:08 < ReadError> jadew my laminator 2016-05-06T10:06:15 < ReadError> leaves a 'streak' 2016-05-06T10:06:30 < dongs> jadew: ^ his previous work 2016-05-06T10:06:33 < ReadError> like a roller or something fucks everything up in a line 2016-05-06T10:06:33 < dongs> of similar style 2016-05-06T10:06:36 < jadew> dongs, damn 2016-05-06T10:06:39 < jadew> that's awesome 2016-05-06T10:06:54 < ReadError> dongs looks pretty nice 2016-05-06T10:07:14 < jadew> he coats them with what? 2016-05-06T10:07:22 < jadew> is that paper? 2016-05-06T10:07:52 < ReadError> ohsix wat 2016-05-06T10:07:55 < ReadError> looks great 2016-05-06T10:07:55 < jadew> ohsix, looks pretty good for tonner transfer 2016-05-06T10:08:10 < jadew> and the coating seems nice too, I don't know how he did it 2016-05-06T10:08:46 < jadew> must be a lot of work 2016-05-06T10:09:34 < dongs> /wu/wi 2016-05-06T10:10:39 < jadew> so what's his secret? 2016-05-06T10:10:50 < dongs> dunoi, trying to get him to join in here 2016-05-06T10:12:44 -!- kOStiX [~kOStiX@189.136.227.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T10:12:57 < dongs> ^ pcbetchingstoner 2016-05-06T10:13:23 < kOStiX> hey there 2016-05-06T10:13:49 < jadew> hi 2016-05-06T10:14:39 < kOStiX> the pcb stuff? haha 2016-05-06T10:17:01 < kOStiX> hehe, well its just a quick way of prototyping for me 2016-05-06T10:17:40 < kOStiX> its a synth 2016-05-06T10:18:10 < kOStiX> like this 2016-05-06T10:18:11 < kOStiX> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aK6aS-SCng&feature=youtu.be 2016-05-06T10:18:20 < kOStiX> but that design if for the second version of it 2016-05-06T10:19:10 < kOStiX> if=is 2016-05-06T10:20:45 < jadew> was that really toner transfer? 2016-05-06T10:20:50 < kOStiX> yeah man 2016-05-06T10:21:03 < kOStiX> printed on glossy magazine paper over the text 2016-05-06T10:21:25 < jadew> that's really good 2016-05-06T10:21:34 < kOStiX> nope, just put really dark brightness and really high contrast 2016-05-06T10:21:41 < kOStiX> http://imgur.com/a/wuxfS 2016-05-06T10:21:46 < kOStiX> this is the best ive done 2016-05-06T10:22:16 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltronics-TZ-KIT-1-Tweezers-Kit-TMT-9000S/dp/B00NS4J6P0/ 2016-05-06T10:22:23 < ReadError> why are these so expensive :( 2016-05-06T10:22:40 < kOStiX> i see, well, i fear my printer wont print exactly on the same spot 2016-05-06T10:22:44 < ReadError> Ive been eyehustlin them for a while 2016-05-06T10:22:53 < jadew> ReadError, you can find cheap ones on ebay 2016-05-06T10:23:07 < jadew> they work with the knock off hackos 2016-05-06T10:23:11 < ReadError> jadew on ebay those are 275 2016-05-06T10:23:29 < ReadError> hmm what series or model? 2016-05-06T10:23:41 < jadew> I don't remember, but I was looking for tweezers too at some point 2016-05-06T10:23:48 < jadew> I eventually just got another soldering station 2016-05-06T10:24:03 < jadew> and if I want to remove a smd part I can just use two irons 2016-05-06T10:24:20 < jadew> it's not as nice but it works 2016-05-06T10:24:27 < kOStiX> i wanna try make this transfer method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpCi9kgpuw 2016-05-06T10:25:08 < kOStiX> http://imgur.com/a/VEO3T this is the synth sequencer main board 2016-05-06T10:25:30 < kOStiX> its basically stm32f103 and some 4051s for the knobs, 74hc165 for switches and 74hc595 for leds 2016-05-06T10:25:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.225] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T10:25:48 < kOStiX> and lm358 opamp for output filter 2016-05-06T10:25:53 < ReadError> jadew ive done that ya 2016-05-06T10:25:57 < jadew> ReadError: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-TWEEZER-SOLDERING-IRON-ZD-409-/321996005903?hash=item4af875220f:g:SAgAAOSwGotWr7lO 2016-05-06T10:26:32 < jadew> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soldering-Station-Solder-Iron-SMD-Hot-Tweezer-Set-CSI-950-UK-Co/221964179325?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36381%26meid%3D839a7e4a41c54e83b8ccf71cef2aa77d%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D13%26sd%3D321996005903 2016-05-06T10:27:17 < jadew> not sure what's the deal with those pointy tips, but look: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CSI-TWZR-SMD-Hot-Tweezer-Iron-Adapter-for-Soldering-Station/222000446708?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36381%26meid%3D81cea12222eb410d8dec6ed8b450902e%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D13%26sd%3D321996005903 2016-05-06T10:27:56 < ReadError> I had some that came with my ayoeue or w/e station 2016-05-06T10:28:08 < jadew> where they any good? 2016-05-06T10:28:11 < ReadError> and they where total garbage 2016-05-06T10:28:17 < jadew> good to know 2016-05-06T10:43:17 < kOStiX> some synth buld pics: http://imgur.com/a/HVRzG 2016-05-06T10:44:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-145.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T10:58:09 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugcncwknjnmduyus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T10:58:36 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imqamvjzfxmzicfx] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T11:01:17 < kakimir> I did not die 2016-05-06T11:01:55 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/bZZh8Ln.png 2016-05-06T11:08:37 < ReadError> ehttp://www.iflscience.com/technology/millions-passwords-hotmail-gmail-and-yahoo-have-been-stolen 2016-05-06T11:08:40 < ReadError> agaiiinnn? 2016-05-06T11:08:54 < ReadError> Bizarrely, the hacker asked for just 50 roubles (around 75 cents) for all of the data. Instead of big money, all he asked was that people post positive comments to his social media page. 2016-05-06T11:13:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T11:13:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-06T11:13:25 < dongs> > ifls link 2016-05-06T11:13:30 < dongs> just fuck off not even clicking 2016-05-06T11:13:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-06T11:15:39 < ReadError> never heard of it 2016-05-06T11:15:48 < dongs> .. 2016-05-06T11:15:55 < dongs> its some pseudoscience facebook spam group 2016-05-06T11:16:06 < dongs> i.e. they're the guys who'd be writing pages and pages about emdrive 2016-05-06T11:16:18 < dongs> run by an actual gay jew 2016-05-06T11:16:42 < ReadError> http://betanews.com/2016/05/04/hotmail-gmail-yahoo-password-leak/ ? 2016-05-06T11:17:57 < dongs> facebook likes for stolen passwordz 2016-05-06T11:18:49 < dongs> also who gives a fuck about 50 mail.ru passwords 2016-05-06T11:18:55 < dongs> half of those accounts are probably r2com 2016-05-06T11:21:53 < ReadError> ok queued 6 2016-05-06T11:22:00 < dongs> 6? 2016-05-06T11:22:14 < ReadError> dongs oh, some unfunny tv trash 2016-05-06T11:22:23 < dongs> oh, autism6 is talking? 2016-05-06T11:22:27 < ReadError> yes 2016-05-06T11:22:28 < dongs> k 2016-05-06T11:31:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-06T11:38:47 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T11:39:17 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-06T11:39:32 < ReadError> oh that shit was cool 2016-05-06T11:39:42 < kOStiX> i saw some 3 episodes of black mirror 2016-05-06T11:39:45 < ReadError> i seen all them 2016-05-06T11:39:52 < ReadError> but new stuff is supposed to be coming out? 2016-05-06T11:41:08 < kOStiX> i dunno 2016-05-06T11:43:11 < ReadError> they are 2016-05-06T11:43:15 < ReadError> netflix picked it up 2016-05-06T11:43:20 < ReadError> dropping sometime 2016 2016-05-06T11:47:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@195.198.1.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T11:52:19 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-06T11:55:21 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T11:57:12 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-06T12:02:51 < Laurenceb_> damn there goes my plan to learn Japanese 2016-05-06T12:03:33 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T12:09:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@195.198.1.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-06T12:12:11 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-06T12:12:28 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T12:15:09 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqewsxisjhftmbfq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-06T12:16:27 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T12:16:37 < Steffanx> its no sleeping time. 2016-05-06T12:16:56 < Steffanx> You're way past that time 2016-05-06T12:17:16 < Steffanx> *passed? 2016-05-06T12:18:00 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T12:26:41 -!- kOStiX [~kOStiX@189.136.227.226] has quit [] 2016-05-06T12:28:20 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T12:28:48 < dongs> lol someone ported effectv to assdroid 2016-05-06T12:29:48 < zyp> heh, whoever wrote today's spammail from ST had fun with the headlines 2016-05-06T12:32:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T12:33:43 < Steffanx> heh, yeah. lol. 2016-05-06T12:33:55 < jpa-> no spammail for me :( 2016-05-06T12:34:30 < Steffanx> http://links.st-microelectronics.mkt5947.com/servlet/MailView?ms=MTI5MjI0NDUS1&r=NjkwODIzNDk4MjQS1&j=NzQzMjAyNjcwS0&mt=1&rt=0 2016-05-06T12:34:54 < Steffanx> oops, that is linked to me lol 2016-05-06T12:35:15 < dongs> nah i got that spam too 2016-05-06T12:38:23 < Steffanx> still factorying crt? 2016-05-06T12:39:34 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-06T12:40:55 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T12:42:49 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T12:43:31 < dongs> Amazon.com gift cards are temporarily unavailable. Unfortunately, we do not have a specific time frame when amazon gift cards will return. Please check out one of our other 200+ gift card options on our website! 2016-05-06T12:43:35 < dongs> fuck 2016-05-06T12:44:19 < Sync> wat 2016-05-06T12:47:10 < dongs> gyft.com trolled 2016-05-06T12:47:11 < zyp> aww, can't do your gift card scam anymore? 2016-05-06T12:47:18 < dongs> yes 2016-05-06T12:49:53 < Steffanx> did you make this amazon gift card code generator for that freelancer guy? 2016-05-06T12:50:04 < Steffanx> or whatever it was you linked 2016-05-06T12:50:26 < Steffanx> oh it was jappy craigslist 2016-05-06T12:58:44 * karlp feels left out, no spam from st today (yet) 2016-05-06T12:58:49 < karlp> only got nxp spam 2016-05-06T13:02:54 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-06T13:09:36 < dongs> i got some nxp spam too 2016-05-06T13:09:38 < dongs> dont remember wat it was 2016-05-06T13:09:45 < dongs> LAST MINUTE REGISTRATION FOR NXP FTF or someshit 2016-05-06T13:09:57 < dongs> at least ST spam is somewhat interesting 2016-05-06T13:12:45 < ReadError> the worst is fuckin mentor graphics 2016-05-06T13:12:49 < ReadError> never give them your email 2016-05-06T13:12:52 < dongs> lole 2016-05-06T13:13:44 < ReadError> done it before? 2016-05-06T13:14:08 < dongs> ya man 2016-05-06T13:14:14 < dongs> i had some guy emailing me ~PERSONALLY~ 2016-05-06T13:14:19 < dongs> after i signed up to download their fucking viewer 2016-05-06T13:14:35 < dongs> IMPROVE YOUR PCB ROUTING WORKFLOW WITH 2016-05-06T13:14:37 < ReadError> yea i dont even remember what i got 2016-05-06T13:14:43 < ReadError> it was something stupid i never used 2016-05-06T13:20:23 < lorenzo> Dear LETMEDOWNLOAD YOURSHIT, 2016-05-06T13:21:01 < lorenzo> I wonder why companies ask for email and registration to download *free* stuff 2016-05-06T13:21:09 < dongs> so tehy can spam you later 2016-05-06T13:21:12 < dongs> or sell it 2016-05-06T13:21:13 < dongs> duh 2016-05-06T13:21:25 < PeterM> manm, nobody knows spam like mental graphics 2016-05-06T13:22:27 < PeterM> spam that i dont mind - TI and Digikey and E14 2016-05-06T13:24:08 < lorenzo> yeah TI has interesting spam 2016-05-06T13:24:28 < lorenzo> last one was ultra-low noise LDOs and opamps 2016-05-06T13:24:31 < PeterM> i like it because i do lots of power shit 2016-05-06T13:24:54 < lorenzo> analog devices is acceptable too 2016-05-06T13:25:00 < dongs> TI wants me to buy that super nice automotive DC/DC 2016-05-06T13:25:01 < dongs> but its so $$ 2016-05-06T13:25:12 < dongs> its pretty awesome tho 2016-05-06T13:25:38 < PeterM> nah fuck that 2016-05-06T13:27:43 < PeterM> last ti spam was appnotes> usb3 parts>class d amps 2016-05-06T13:28:42 < Sync> they always spam me with their automotive dcdc shits 2016-05-06T13:36:09 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE6jy78tV78 Laurenceb 2016-05-06T13:36:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:8d3e:7cde:6ab8:78ee] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T13:37:16 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T13:38:38 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/674D/vmware-2016-05-06-06-38-20.png 2016-05-06T13:38:46 < ReadError> do fabs even care about shit like this? 2016-05-06T13:39:01 < PeterM> what? min soldermask sliver? 2016-05-06T13:39:14 < ReadError> yessah 2016-05-06T13:39:30 < PeterM> usually they jsut delete everything eblow their min, or they reject it 2016-05-06T13:39:42 < PeterM> so they dgaf 2016-05-06T13:39:50 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T13:40:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T13:40:43 < karlp> ReadError: yeah, fuckn mentor, unsubscribed from their shit. totally useless and way too much of it 2016-05-06T13:40:47 < ReadError> so whats the proper way to fix it? 2016-05-06T13:40:53 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T13:40:59 < ReadError> just expand it more? 2016-05-06T13:41:09 < PeterM> either more or less 2016-05-06T13:41:21 < PeterM> if thye have super dooper alignment 2016-05-06T13:41:31 < PeterM> you can reduce it for SMD pads 2016-05-06T13:41:36 < ReadError> ahh its only set to 2mil 2016-05-06T13:41:45 < ReadError> not sure what the fab is capable of lemme check 2016-05-06T13:41:48 < PeterM> if you prefer NSMD pads then increase it 2016-05-06T13:41:55 < PeterM> 4 mil is pretty standart 2016-05-06T13:42:51 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/538G/chrome-2016-05-06-06-42-32.png 2016-05-06T13:42:59 < zyp> ReadError, that's one of the design rules I'm always setting to 0 2016-05-06T13:43:19 < ReadError> so they have dam and clearance to make things fun 2016-05-06T13:43:31 < ReadError> zyp ive always ignored the DR violation 2016-05-06T13:43:35 < PeterM> sm clearance = sm expansion/allignemtn error 2016-05-06T13:43:51 < zyp> ReadError, that's dumb 2016-05-06T13:43:51 < PeterM> sm dam = minimum sliver 2016-05-06T13:43:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T13:44:12 < zyp> I'm always removing all violations, either by fixing them or fixing the dumb rules causing them 2016-05-06T13:44:25 < PeterM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2016-05-06T13:44:27 < ReadError> zyp isnt setting it to 0 basically ignoring it? 2016-05-06T13:44:33 < PeterM> no 2016-05-06T13:44:46 < zyp> sure, but it makes it not show up in the rule check 2016-05-06T13:44:49 < PeterM> because when you actually need to use the rule it will never generate an error in the first plce 2016-05-06T13:45:00 < ReadError> ah 2016-05-06T13:45:47 < ReadError> seems like they improved the DR verification in 16 2016-05-06T13:46:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T13:46:02 < ReadError> like clicking on stuff and it moving you to it 2016-05-06T13:46:02 < zyp> might be, I've only used 13-15 2016-05-06T13:46:13 < zyp> uh, even 13 does that 2016-05-06T13:46:24 < ReadError> idk 15 i would click shit and it would move heh 2016-05-06T13:46:36 < ReadError> maybe i changed the zoom on it or something 2016-05-06T13:46:44 < ReadError> would=wouldnt* 2016-05-06T14:03:59 < ReadError> new box is so much quicker at altium too, its nice 2016-05-06T14:11:32 < dongs> wat 2016-05-06T14:13:04 < dongs> cloner trash. 2016-05-06T14:14:16 < ReadError> yawn 2016-05-06T14:18:10 < ReadError> doesnt bother me, think of something new 2016-05-06T14:20:47 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T14:21:34 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T14:23:19 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262384764238 this guy is back 2016-05-06T14:23:21 < dongs> buyin another one 2016-05-06T14:23:22 < dongs> for ofice 2016-05-06T14:26:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-06T14:31:03 < __rob> how much is it normally ? 2016-05-06T14:31:08 < dongs> um 2016-05-06T14:31:15 < dongs> 10pro is like $299? 2016-05-06T14:31:16 < dongs> or someshti 2016-05-06T14:31:24 < __rob> how is he selling it for that 2016-05-06T14:31:25 < dongs> $199 2016-05-06T14:31:32 < dongs> rob, .edu keys or somethign 2016-05-06T14:31:38 < __rob> ohh 2016-05-06T14:31:46 < dongs> so its basically $0 to him 2016-05-06T14:32:12 < __rob> surely they can blacklist those keys 2016-05-06T14:32:14 < __rob> hes selling 2016-05-06T14:32:21 < dongs> probly not easily 2016-05-06T14:32:23 < dongs> they're just keys 2016-05-06T14:32:34 < __rob> yea, but they will be given out to him or his company 2016-05-06T14:32:49 < __rob> only msdn I have a 'generate key' button 2016-05-06T14:32:58 < dongs> right 2016-05-06T14:33:04 < __rob> but then that will be linked to that acouunt 2016-05-06T14:33:08 < dongs> yes 2016-05-06T14:33:19 < __rob> so they'd only have to buy one key to see whos generating them 2016-05-06T14:33:22 < dongs> but edu advantage or someshit stuff you can allocate a bunch or osmeshit 2016-05-06T14:34:31 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sEqGc8t3aw 2016-05-06T14:35:37 < dongs> i dont get it 2016-05-06T14:35:50 < dongs> is that 240fps 2016-05-06T14:36:05 < PeterM> its nothing great 2016-05-06T14:36:16 < PeterM> its jsut for people who find that sound... enjoyable 2016-05-06T14:38:07 < dongs> what is it even 2016-05-06T14:38:13 < dongs> sounds like something ohsix would listen to 2016-05-06T14:41:20 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/BB3kE3k.gifv 2016-05-06T14:41:26 < Laurenceb> thats what I want 240fps for 2016-05-06T14:41:35 < dongs> not funny laurenceb 2016-05-06T14:41:47 < Laurenceb> correct 2016-05-06T14:43:38 < dongs> Hello, and thank you for your order: Here are your genuine Windows 10 Pro 2016-05-06T14:43:40 < dongs> license keys: 2016-05-06T14:43:43 < dongs> ^_- 2016-05-06T14:45:24 < ReadError> what does yours end with? i got one also 2016-05-06T14:45:29 < ReadError> last 3 digit? 2016-05-06T14:45:33 < kakimir> I landed in lake first time 2016-05-06T14:45:46 < ReadError> K2P 2016-05-06T14:46:02 < kakimir> full of melting ice 2016-05-06T14:46:07 < ReadError> wonder if hes sending out dupes 2016-05-06T14:46:41 < dongs> hmm sold $100 in solar last month 2016-05-06T14:46:44 < dongs> on $200 used 2016-05-06T14:49:13 < ReadError> kakimir wat did you land in lake? 2016-05-06T14:49:40 < kakimir> I totally realized how parachuters drown 2016-05-06T14:49:54 < ReadError> uh 2016-05-06T14:50:40 < kakimir> effectivelly having 10 square meter brake behind your back and lines all over 2016-05-06T14:51:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.225] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T14:53:04 < kakimir> panic and get stuck / hyper yourself and fail eventually to swim 2016-05-06T14:53:43 < ReadError> what plane u fly? 2016-05-06T14:54:17 < kakimir> it was some speed flier chute 2016-05-06T14:54:30 < kakimir> faster type of paraglider 2016-05-06T14:54:55 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T14:54:59 < ReadError> why did you land in a lake tho? 2016-05-06T14:55:51 < kakimir> we planned landing site 200m further in parking lot because they flew yesterday easily there 2016-05-06T14:56:13 < kakimir> so there had been change in wind direction 2016-05-06T14:59:58 < kakimir> friend barelly made to shore sand as he flew direct line there as I flew first to above the lake and then did 90turn to the shore 2016-05-06T15:02:14 < Laurenceb> next up wingsuit flying? 2016-05-06T15:02:25 < BrainDamage> fursuit flying 2016-05-06T15:02:25 < Laurenceb> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33778.0;attach=1114490;image 2016-05-06T15:02:30 < Laurenceb> 2.3 Zillion 2016-05-06T15:02:46 < Laurenceb> some sort of spacex meme 2016-05-06T15:02:57 < Laurenceb> muh 2.3 zillion 2016-05-06T15:03:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVuI_S-CmaI 2016-05-06T15:03:53 < kakimir> I need to become rogue pilot first 2016-05-06T15:04:11 < kakimir> so I can teach my friend to fly my rogue jump flight 2016-05-06T15:05:13 < kakimir> or just pay some pilot that "had no passengers" 2016-05-06T15:05:46 < ReadError> the fuck are you talking about 2016-05-06T15:06:59 < qyx> mhm 2016-05-06T15:07:03 < qyx> do you know http://www.pcbway.com? 2016-05-06T15:07:08 < qyx> they sent me a spam recently 2016-05-06T15:07:16 < ReadError> yea, reg ole chinapcbs 2016-05-06T15:07:17 < qyx> like $10 for 10 pieces for prototypes 2016-05-06T15:08:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-145.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T15:08:39 < ReadError> ya seeed, itead, dirtypcb 2016-05-06T15:08:44 < ReadError> all are about the same 2016-05-06T15:10:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-145.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T15:11:16 < kakimir> ReadError: inside joke about comming self taught in all flying 2016-05-06T15:11:47 < ReadError> normally you do inside jokes with like, other people that are inside 2016-05-06T15:12:17 < zyp> inside jokes are called inside jokes because they're only funny inside a group 2016-05-06T15:19:36 < kakimir> friend become famous by having no experience or peers and doing successful base jump without audition 2016-05-06T15:21:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T15:22:38 < Rob235> how does heat shrink not lose length when shrinking? 2016-05-06T15:22:53 < kakimir> by shrinking the ends first 2016-05-06T15:23:14 < Rob235> no i mean it just doesn't shrink length wise, I'm wondering how that's possible 2016-05-06T15:23:52 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-06T15:24:08 < BrainDamage> because the molecula its made of are not symmetric, they are long chains, and it's built considering the molecular directions 2016-05-06T15:24:28 < Rob235> ahh 2016-05-06T15:24:33 < Rob235> thanks 2016-05-06T15:24:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T15:25:37 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@dhcp142.chs.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T15:27:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:8d3e:7cde:6ab8:78ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T15:33:57 < Rob235> 8:30 AM too early to smoke? 2016-05-06T15:34:19 < ReadError> nah 2016-05-06T15:34:29 < ReadError> well 2016-05-06T15:34:34 < ReadError> depends how much shit you wanna get done 2016-05-06T15:34:43 < Rob235> silly ReadError, that wasn't a serious question, I already took the hit :) 2016-05-06T15:35:06 < Rob235> I smoke a lot, I don't get fucked up anymore, just calms me down so I can still get stuff done 2016-05-06T15:36:10 < ReadError> aye ya, i think i may 'ava toke too m8 2016-05-06T15:36:24 < Rob235> go for it 2016-05-06T15:37:05 < ReadError> gotta decide how now 2016-05-06T15:37:09 < ReadError> dabzzz 2016-05-06T15:37:10 < Rob235> what are the optionis 2016-05-06T15:37:12 < Rob235> options* 2016-05-06T15:37:14 < Rob235> ahh 2016-05-06T15:37:25 < Rob235> I gotta make more dabs, what kind do you have 2016-05-06T15:37:46 < ReadError> kind? 2016-05-06T15:37:59 < Rob235> how was it made? butane? rosin tech? qwiso? 2016-05-06T15:38:00 < ReadError> wax 2016-05-06T15:38:10 < ReadError> nah this is legit shit from cali 2016-05-06T15:38:19 < ReadError> none of that stuff 2016-05-06T15:38:35 < Rob235> well it was still made somehow, I wonder how pro places do it 2016-05-06T15:38:45 < ReadError> closed loop systems 2016-05-06T15:38:51 < Rob235> so butane 2016-05-06T15:38:54 < ReadError> probably butane 2016-05-06T15:39:14 < Rob235> I haven't tried butane yet but I want to and have the equipment, I'm just scared of not getting all the butane out in the end 2016-05-06T15:40:17 < Laurenceb> what are you trying to do? 2016-05-06T15:40:19 < Rob235> rosin tech is pretty cool, no solvents. just take a half gram bud, put between parchment paper and squeeze in a hair straightener at 250-260F with a 600 lb vice clamp thing 2016-05-06T15:40:34 < Rob235> oil oozes out 2016-05-06T15:40:38 < BrainDamage> they are busy with stonertronics 2016-05-06T15:40:42 < Rob235> and then you can make edibles with the leftovers 2016-05-06T15:40:53 < ReadError> hair straightener? 2016-05-06T15:41:04 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T15:41:15 < Rob235> yea, tong looking thing with two plates that heat up to straighten hair with 2016-05-06T15:42:29 < Rob235> if you want to do a lot I've heard of people using a tshirt press 2016-05-06T15:42:44 < ReadError> oh, I got a vac + chamber 2016-05-06T15:42:48 < ReadError> so purging is easy 2016-05-06T15:42:51 < Rob235> oh nice 2016-05-06T15:43:00 < Rob235> I want one but not worth the investment right now 2016-05-06T15:43:04 < ReadError> but i rather just get mine premade 2016-05-06T15:44:06 < Rob235> yea well I'm not in a friendly state and I haven't found a source (actually I just did and he left the country for 6 months a week after I met him..) 2016-05-06T15:45:21 < Rob235> since you dont need your vac chamber anymore you should give it to me :) 2016-05-06T15:49:01 < ReadError> pfff like i got it just for purging wax ill never make 2016-05-06T15:49:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T15:49:13 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-06T15:49:53 < Rob235> you got me in the mood to do a dab, I'm gonna have to break out the hair straightener 2016-05-06T16:00:19 < dongs> We've assembled a team of the best and brightest designers and engineers, from experts in ASICS, Bluetooth®, PCB, and mobile OS to product usability, safety, and human engineering. 2016-05-06T16:00:29 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T16:00:42 < dongs> experts in running shoes 2016-05-06T16:09:12 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE6jy78tV78&feature=youtu.be&list=PLJ2fDHMSFWCYaC9AEdKwM1HzrtKHsUJg6 2016-05-06T16:16:17 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T16:24:53 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T16:24:53 < dongs> lol maddox 2016-05-06T16:25:38 < Laurenceb> lol the dislikes 2016-05-06T16:27:34 < dongs> ya what sup with that 2016-05-06T16:27:59 < dongs> his screen recording of photoshop is hilarious 2016-05-06T16:34:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-145.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-06T16:35:49 < Rob235> I may have gotten really high last week and saw that I got $20 off shutterfly from amazon so I may have went to the site and messed around and I may have ordered my gf a case for her iphone with my cock on it and it may be getting delivered today 2016-05-06T16:41:04 < Laurenceb> nice, my i2c is breaking again 2016-05-06T16:41:10 < Laurenceb> while since I saw that 2016-05-06T16:42:00 < Rob235> your welcome 2016-05-06T16:43:03 < Sync> TIL BBC Radio 1Xtra exists 2016-05-06T16:43:13 < Laurenceb> jammed stop bit 2016-05-06T16:43:26 < Laurenceb> nice, this is going to be "fun" to fix 2016-05-06T16:44:13 < Rob235> I'm not sure what I should work on... wiring, testing pid, or finishing ws2812 animation library 2016-05-06T16:44:16 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T16:45:28 < Rob235> It's too early to set up everything to test pid, I think i'll work on the leds 2016-05-06T16:47:19 < Laurenceb> (gdb) p/x I2C1->CR1 2016-05-06T16:47:19 < Laurenceb> No symbol "I2C1" in current context. 2016-05-06T16:47:26 < Laurenceb> any ideas what causes this issue? 2016-05-06T16:48:30 < Sync> what do you need to test about a pid controller Rob235? 2016-05-06T16:49:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T16:49:55 < Rickta59> how are you spewing bits at the ws2812 Rob235 ? * which stm32 chip 2016-05-06T16:54:01 < Laurenceb> how do I make all my registers visible to gdb? 2016-05-06T16:54:19 < Rickta59> info register 2016-05-06T16:54:40 < Laurenceb> no I mean like I2C registers 2016-05-06T16:55:04 < Rob235> Sync: I just haven't tested any part of it yet, and I have to match up units first (the values being passed to the pid and those being used inside don't quite match up yet) 2016-05-06T16:55:14 < Rob235> I guess I just mean test the whole motor driving system 2016-05-06T16:55:24 < Rob235> make sure it reacts how it's supposed to 2016-05-06T16:55:30 < jpa-> Laurenceb: -g3 and being in file where stm32fxx.h is included 2016-05-06T16:55:40 < Rob235> Rickta59: stm32f4, I'm using DMA 2016-05-06T16:55:46 < Laurenceb> jpa-: thanks 2016-05-06T16:56:02 < Rickta59> are you using a timer, spi, usart? Rob235 ? 2016-05-06T16:56:39 < Rob235> timer 2016-05-06T16:57:28 < Rickta59> i normally use SPI on other chips, however it seems on my stm32f1 I'm limited to power of 2 divisors on the SPI clock .. unless I missed some way of using a timer to driver the spi clock 2016-05-06T16:58:11 < Laurenceb> hmm I have -g3 already 2016-05-06T16:58:17 < Laurenceb> something must be wrong 2016-05-06T16:58:20 < Rob235> I actually haven't used SPI yet, I'm pretty new to this stuff so I just know what I've used on this drone and nothing uses SPI 2016-05-06T16:59:42 < Rickta59> you could always just point at the address Laurenceb and cast it to a type pointer 2016-05-06T16:59:47 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-05-06T17:00:03 < Rickta59> p/x (SomeStruct *)(0x40xxx.)->CR1 2016-05-06T17:00:07 < Laurenceb> anyway it doesnt help much, I know stop is jammed but have no clue why 2016-05-06T17:00:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-06T17:00:23 < Rickta59> set a watchpoint for when it changes? 2016-05-06T17:00:44 < Laurenceb> interesting idea but the other CR1 bits are used 2016-05-06T17:00:55 < Laurenceb> the error happens about once every 3 hours of runtime 2016-05-06T17:02:02 < Laurenceb> guess I could leave it running with a Saleae 2016-05-06T17:02:44 < Rickta59> maybe watchpoint on bitband address? 2016-05-06T17:02:55 < Rickta59> * no idea if that is even possible 2016-05-06T17:02:56 < Laurenceb> ooh nice plan 2016-05-06T17:03:01 < Sync> I hope you are using cascaded control if you are doing motor control Rob235 2016-05-06T17:03:07 < Laurenceb> but stop bit is used in the normal code 2016-05-06T17:03:35 < Rickta59> you could put a conditional on it 2016-05-06T17:03:36 < Laurenceb> if I can catch the error with logic analyser it might help 2016-05-06T17:03:49 < Laurenceb> yeah thats what I've got atm 2016-05-06T17:04:03 < Laurenceb> breakpoint on an if condition that finds the error 2016-05-06T17:04:18 < Laurenceb> but it doesnt tell me much about what happened prior to the error 2016-05-06T17:05:03 < Rickta59> is that stack and heap intact? 2016-05-06T17:05:16 < Rickta59> the 2016-05-06T17:05:25 < Laurenceb> hmm good point 2016-05-06T17:05:43 < Laurenceb> unfortunatly I just tried to single step through a while loop 2016-05-06T17:05:47 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-06T17:05:54 < Laurenceb> going to have to kill the session and lose everything :-/ 2016-05-06T17:10:33 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-06T17:12:06 < Rob235> Sync: what do you mean by cascaded control? 2016-05-06T17:12:47 < Laurenceb> aha found the first issue 2016-05-06T17:12:52 < Laurenceb> a "Bus Error" 2016-05-06T17:13:06 < Laurenceb> following comms to LSM9DS1 magno 2016-05-06T17:14:12 < ReadError> yo so, im trying to decide, spend $250 on some soldering tweezers, or $350 on another PSU+stand+handle and play chopstix 2016-05-06T17:14:59 < Rickta59> buy both 2016-05-06T17:15:19 < Sync> Rob235: if you are trying to control a motor with a single pid to a position it will not work very well 2016-05-06T17:15:22 < ReadError> no 2016-05-06T17:15:27 < Sync> yes 2016-05-06T17:15:49 < ReadError> buying both is dumb 2016-05-06T17:19:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T17:20:45 < Laurenceb> heh this reminds me of my PhD project 2016-05-06T17:20:56 < Laurenceb> spent months trying to make a linear actuator work 2016-05-06T17:21:35 < Laurenceb> in the end I managed a three order of magnitude decrease in response time compared to PID 2016-05-06T17:24:20 < Rob235> pid takes in euler angles (one pid per axis) and outputs axis adjustments, then the motor mixer uses that to determine how to adjust each motor 2016-05-06T17:24:43 < Laurenceb> pid is probably quite a good choice 2016-05-06T17:24:53 < Laurenceb> I was dealing with horribly nonlinear dynamics 2016-05-06T17:27:11 < Rob235> yea everyone seems to use pid 2016-05-06T17:27:33 < Laurenceb> it's good for simple linear things 2016-05-06T17:27:39 < Rob235> Sync: is that what you meant? 2016-05-06T17:27:43 < Sync> no 2016-05-06T17:27:46 < Sync> or yes 2016-05-06T17:28:11 < Rob235> bad question, I should have asked, am I doing it correctly? 2016-05-06T17:28:11 < Sync> but putting position directly into a motor controller leads to strange effects 2016-05-06T17:28:26 < Sync> you need to cascade it into velocity and accel 2016-05-06T17:28:37 < Laurenceb> pid is also ok if you dont care about performance 2016-05-06T17:28:50 < Rob235> pid uses gyro 2016-05-06T17:28:52 < Sync> and in the end into the current controller that controls torque 2016-05-06T17:29:05 < Rob235> is that enough? 2016-05-06T17:29:45 < Sync> what is your controller outputting and what does it receive? 2016-05-06T17:29:55 < Sync> if it receives a position and outputs a velocity, that is fine 2016-05-06T17:30:13 < Rob235> oh I see what you mean 2016-05-06T17:30:15 < Sync> Laurenceb: what kind of linear actuator? 2016-05-06T17:30:19 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T17:30:30 < Laurenceb> ball screw and stepper 2016-05-06T17:30:35 < Laurenceb> later I used linear stepper 2016-05-06T17:30:42 < Sync> that is perfectly controllable with a pid 2016-05-06T17:30:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T17:31:01 < Sync> even linear motors are just 3ph bldcs 2016-05-06T17:31:34 < Laurenceb> the PID was controlling the entire process - it was applying pressure to someones arm 2016-05-06T17:31:49 < Sync> so you were controlling torque 2016-05-06T17:32:09 < Sync> torque mode is pretty easy, as you just have to control motor current 2016-05-06T17:32:24 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T17:32:29 < Rob235> well if the position is output with gyro taken into account, isn't that kind of the same thing as outputting velocity and then converting to new position? 2016-05-06T17:32:46 < Laurenceb> Sync: no, as I had to move +-5cm 2016-05-06T17:33:00 < Laurenceb> and there was heavy friction in the linear actuator system 2016-05-06T17:33:20 < Sync> o0 2016-05-06T17:33:31 < Sync> I had good success with force feedback through ballscrews 2016-05-06T17:33:34 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-06T17:34:17 < Laurenceb> interesting 2016-05-06T17:34:42 < Laurenceb> I ruled that out as impossible and used a strain gauge 2016-05-06T17:34:58 < Laurenceb> shit my code is going from bad to worse 2016-05-06T17:35:10 < Sync> Rob235: as velocity is the derivative of position, no it is not the same thing 2016-05-06T17:35:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T17:35:40 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/ads1298.c line 702 2016-05-06T17:35:42 < Rob235> ok I'll have to think all this through 2016-05-06T17:35:43 < Sync> well, you can just map friction and use feedforward to get your actual force applied Laurenceb 2016-05-06T17:35:47 < Laurenceb> does that make any sense? 2016-05-06T17:36:02 < Laurenceb> its very occasionally waiting there seemingly forever 2016-05-06T17:36:07 < Laurenceb> I'm very confused now 2016-05-06T17:36:11 < Sync> that is how freedrive works with robots 2016-05-06T17:36:45 < Laurenceb> stupid optimised code, this project is a disaster 2016-05-06T17:36:57 < Laurenceb> I can't see what t_exit and t_entry are 2016-05-06T17:37:22 < Sync> god wtf are you doing 2016-05-06T17:37:28 < Laurenceb> and without optimisation I use >128k 2016-05-06T17:37:30 < Laurenceb> argggg 2016-05-06T17:37:34 < Laurenceb> atm I'm raging hard 2016-05-06T17:37:49 < Rob235> thats too much information 2016-05-06T17:37:54 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-05-06T17:38:05 < Laurenceb> not like that 2016-05-06T17:38:09 < Rob235> haha i know 2016-05-06T17:43:22 < Rob235> this lighter would be great if it would just work 2016-05-06T17:45:20 < Laurenceb> something is generating short pulses on my i2c bus 2016-05-06T17:45:27 < Laurenceb> I suspect anyway.... 2016-05-06T17:45:34 < Laurenceb> about once an hour :( 2016-05-06T17:46:24 < Rob235> strange 2016-05-06T17:47:33 < Laurenceb> nothing is strange when it comes to i2c bus 2016-05-06T17:47:36 < Laurenceb> the hatebus 2016-05-06T17:48:32 < Laurenceb> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yNAMwh1GreU/U2jIPWthQLI/AAAAAAAAl60/kHxEpBO3j_8/s1600/Riding+the+Hate+Bus,+1961+%285%29.jpeg 2016-05-06T17:48:36 < Laurenceb> powered by i2c 2016-05-06T17:48:43 < Steffanx> you better dont let Laurenceb drive the i2c bus 2016-05-06T17:57:42 < Laurenceb> (gdb) bt 2016-05-06T17:57:42 < Laurenceb> #0 I2C1_Request_Job (job_=0 '\000') at i2c_int.c:251 2016-05-06T17:57:42 < Laurenceb> #1 0x00000010 in ?? () 2016-05-06T17:57:45 < Laurenceb> nice stuff 2016-05-06T17:58:22 < Laurenceb> I'm out of ideas :-/ 2016-05-06T17:58:39 < Laurenceb> ram fairies 2016-05-06T17:59:29 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-06T18:00:36 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T18:00:48 < Laurenceb> coming in and wiping all my bits 2016-05-06T18:01:18 < dongs> http://kencast.com/solutions/ourfazzttechnology/ 2016-05-06T18:01:36 < Laurenceb> its like you just have to say "i2c" and all the crazy shit starts happening 2016-05-06T18:06:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T18:06:35 < Rob235> I'm going to start designing and selling sex toys powered by stm32 2016-05-06T18:07:32 < Laurenceb> well don't use i2c if you want them to work 2016-05-06T18:07:49 < Rob235> haha, I really haven't had much problem with i2c, I never let it run very long though 2016-05-06T18:09:26 < Steffanx> Rob235 as how dongs did it. He has experience in that matter. 2016-05-06T18:11:20 < Rob235> haha 2016-05-06T18:11:36 < Rob235> i bet exclusively smart butt plugs 2016-05-06T18:14:55 < Steffanx> large dildo 2016-05-06T18:15:17 < Rob235> I'm gonna give overwatch a shot again, I don't think I'll end up buying it but while it's in free beta, why not 2016-05-06T18:15:30 < Steffanx> large for asian standards that is 2016-05-06T18:15:39 < Rob235> so... 4"? 2016-05-06T18:16:59 < BrainDamage> diameter 2016-05-06T18:17:36 < jpa-> btw. why is cerium oxide sold inside buttplugs? https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Bottom-Price-High-Quality-Cerium-Oxide_60373013124.html?spm=a2700.7724838.30.173.AxbW1p 2016-05-06T18:18:07 < BrainDamage> invalid link 2016-05-06T18:18:16 < dongs> works for me 2016-05-06T18:18:36 < jpa-> works 50% of time for me 2016-05-06T18:19:26 < Sync> ah dongs, what do 407vg shits run in china? 2016-05-06T18:19:34 < Rob235> WTF, I thought UPS tracking wasn't updating because it wouldn't until it got to the US, but it just updated: 4/26 - Order Processed: Ready for UPS, 5/06 - Pickup Scan (Hong Kong) 2016-05-06T18:21:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-06T18:27:56 < dongs> lol china UPS 2016-05-06T18:28:05 < dongs> yea print label then "pick up" a week later 2016-05-06T18:28:06 < dongs> sounds normal 2016-05-06T18:30:42 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T18:31:09 * jpa- tousles Tectu 2016-05-06T18:31:56 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-06T18:34:58 < Steffanx> jpa- is french now? 2016-05-06T18:35:17 < jpa-> coin coin 2016-05-06T18:40:48 < Tectu> Hey jpa- 2016-05-06T18:40:49 < Tectu> how are you? 2016-05-06T18:41:00 < Rob235> can someone answer a basic electrical question for me? I have a ws2812 strip of 84 LEDs. They are connected with 18 awg for pwr/gnd and 24 awg for signal. I'm 0.6m short with the black 18awg (the last connection). How does using thicker or thinner wire affect anything (up to say 4-5 Amps) 2016-05-06T18:41:22 < jpa-> Tectu: hungry 2016-05-06T18:41:43 < Sync> Rob235: less or more voltage loss, just calculate it 2016-05-06T18:41:44 < Tectu> should I make you dinner, honey? 2016-05-06T18:42:48 < emeb> Tectu: figured out my SPI <> ILI9431 problem a while back. 2016-05-06T18:43:19 < jpa-> Rob235: AWG24 is 0.084 ohms per meter, so at 0.6m and 5A that is 1.3 W of lost energy 2016-05-06T18:43:28 < emeb> turns out I wasn't managing the STM32F7 SPI peripheral properly. Some extra funk needed to flush the buffers etc. 2016-05-06T18:43:30 < jpa-> Tectu: yes 2016-05-06T18:44:12 < emeb> studied the HAL SPI routines and integrated their approach and got it running full speed w/o issues. 2016-05-06T18:44:50 < Rob235> jpa-: it's only the 18AWG GND wire I'm short on for the last 0.6m. I'll have to look into voltage drop and what this question really means. I'm sure it's basic stuff so I should know it anyway. 2016-05-06T18:45:25 < Tectu> emeb, glad to hear that you figured out the issue! 2016-05-06T18:45:40 < Tectu> jpa-, don't you have a wife for that? 2016-05-06T18:45:54 < jpa-> Tectu: it doesn't quite work that way 2016-05-06T18:46:41 < Rob235> it's great on the occasion that it does work that way though 2016-05-06T18:46:55 < Rob235> rare occasion* 2016-05-06T18:51:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-06T18:52:11 < Tectu> emeb, and thanks for letting me know :) 2016-05-06T18:52:24 < Tectu> jpa-, maybe you didn't understand how it is supposed to work 2016-05-06T18:52:52 < jpa-> no, i know that you are making me dinner and will deliver it soon 2016-05-06T18:55:55 < Tectu> anything for you. 2016-05-06T19:08:33 < Rob235> I'm sure you guys don't care but my dong phone came out awesome 2016-05-06T19:10:37 < jpa-> photos? 2016-05-06T19:10:40 < jpa-> of your dong, or phone 2016-05-06T19:14:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:20:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.44.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:20:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-06T19:23:16 < ReadMobl> jpa-: boop 2016-05-06T19:23:24 < ReadMobl> question re: hall sensors for BLDC 2016-05-06T19:23:39 < ReadMobl> http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=DRV5013BCQLPGMvirtualkey59500000virtualkey595-DRV5013BCQLPGM 2016-05-06T19:23:58 < ReadMobl> http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=DRV5013ADQLPGMvirtualkey59500000virtualkey595-DRV5013ADQLPGM 2016-05-06T19:24:12 < ReadMobl> the operating/release is a bit different 2016-05-06T19:24:28 -!- ReadError_ [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:25:35 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gueyfdvtrqagfqna] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T19:25:40 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-06T19:28:02 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vdjnshnohyibomns] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:29:10 < Rob235> jpa-: cock phone! https://www.dropbox.com/s/iakwg15etbt5xrj/20160506_122700.jpg?dl=0 2016-05-06T19:29:16 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-06T19:29:20 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4 2016-05-06T19:30:16 -!- ReadError_ is now known as ReadError 2016-05-06T19:33:15 < jadew> wtf is wrong with mouser shipping charge 2016-05-06T19:33:18 < jadew> $30? 2016-05-06T19:33:40 < jadew> no thanks, I can buy stuff and have it delivered with $5 2016-05-06T19:33:51 -!- circuit is now known as elektirnis 2016-05-06T19:34:57 < jadew> and no custom fees or VAT paid, even tho they ship from CZ? 2016-05-06T19:35:02 < jadew> or do they ship them from the US? 2016-05-06T19:35:26 < Steffanx> buy more, no shipping costs. 2016-05-06T19:35:44 < jadew> yeah, I noticed 2016-05-06T19:35:54 < Steffanx> > $60 or something 2016-05-06T19:36:02 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-06T19:36:07 < jadew> it's not bad I guess 2016-05-06T19:37:37 < Steffanx> so was it a bad day after the one letter? 2016-05-06T19:38:31 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:39:04 < jadew> Steffanx, I was asked to give the new guy at least a month 2016-05-06T19:39:24 < jadew> and I was promised that some things will change 2016-05-06T19:39:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-06T19:39:39 < Laurenceb> holy shit emdrivers 2016-05-06T19:39:42 < Laurenceb> http://cannae.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Vac-Chamber.jpg 2016-05-06T19:39:56 < jadew> https://i.imgur.com/umYTJP1.gifv 2016-05-06T19:44:02 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:44:19 < Sync> oh neat Laurenceb 2016-05-06T19:44:24 < Sync> I'll take that chamber 2016-05-06T19:44:35 < jadew> you didn't like my link? 2016-05-06T19:45:10 < Laurenceb> Sync: hopefully it will be spare once they realise emdrive is a scam 2016-05-06T19:45:19 < Laurenceb> but I doubt they will ever be convinced 2016-05-06T19:47:44 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T19:54:20 < __rob> farnell had totally free shipping for about a month 2016-05-06T19:54:50 < __rob> guess people were order single resistors 2016-05-06T19:57:55 < jpa-> ReadMobl: well, ideally, you'd want one sensor changing state every 60 deg.. but achieving that will take some designing about the magnetics also 2016-05-06T19:58:17 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T19:58:49 < ReadError> im not sure about the operating/release point entirely 2016-05-06T19:59:07 < ReadError> is that just how sensitive it is before it latches/unlatches? 2016-05-06T19:59:41 < jpa-> yes 2016-05-06T20:00:09 < ReadError> so trial and error, fun 2016-05-06T20:01:58 < jpa-> i wouldn't bother adding hall sensors to existing motor, though i think some people have successfully done that 2016-05-06T20:02:13 < jpa-> sensorless control works decently with modern ESCs 2016-05-06T20:03:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.44.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-06T20:03:20 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-pjj5MHj/0/X3/CA_05061613022976-X3.jpg 2016-05-06T20:03:26 < ReadError> this goes on the outside 2016-05-06T20:03:34 < ReadError> unsure how well it works tho 2016-05-06T20:04:02 < jpa-> luls @ all those birdges 2016-05-06T20:04:10 < jpa-> no filter cap at all? 2016-05-06T20:04:12 < ReadError> my ghettojumpers? 2016-05-06T20:04:16 < ReadError> oh ya, i got 3 of them 2016-05-06T20:04:21 < ReadError> they are behind the TO-92 2016-05-06T20:04:28 < jpa-> ah, ok 2016-05-06T20:04:29 < ReadError> pullups are on the VESC 2016-05-06T20:06:19 < ReadError> http://e0designs.com/products/hall-effect-sensor-board/ 2016-05-06T20:06:35 < ReadError> used this template but redid the board to make it work for etch and single layer 2016-05-06T20:07:31 < jpa-> so is that sensing the magnet in the rotor itself or do you add an extra magnet? 2016-05-06T20:07:45 < ReadError> magnet in the bell ya 2016-05-06T20:07:52 < jpa-> ah outrunner? 2016-05-06T20:07:55 < ReadError> im guessing they angle is offset slightly 2016-05-06T20:07:59 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-06T20:09:55 < jpa-> hmm funny how it appears to be 30 deg here.. 4 pole motor? 2016-05-06T20:10:11 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/SMBL/vmware-2016-05-06-13-09-56.png 2016-05-06T20:10:29 < ReadError> took this from his eagle since i was curious the angle stuff too... 2016-05-06T20:10:40 < jpa-> looks funny 2016-05-06T20:11:05 < jpa-> ah, 14 pole motor 2016-05-06T20:11:19 < ReadError> 14P12 i think yea 2016-05-06T20:12:13 < jpa-> so 60/14 = 4.28 deg, but difficult to place them so closely so *4 2016-05-06T20:12:40 < ReadError> I was thinking they are offset so all 3 sensors dont latch at once 2016-05-06T20:12:46 < ReadError> since that would be kinda pointless 2016-05-06T20:12:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.99] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T20:13:28 < jpa-> they must be positioned so that it gives the proper (or close to it) 60 e-deg waveform 2016-05-06T20:14:02 < jpa-> merely being offset is not enough, the angle is quite important 2016-05-06T20:14:16 < ReadError> ahh thats where the 17.13 comes from 2016-05-06T20:23:53 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-06T20:26:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T20:37:16 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T20:42:47 < lorenzo> what, new london mayor is muslim scum 2016-05-06T20:43:16 < lorenzo> europe needs a trump 2016-05-06T20:45:17 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=172_1462522598 2016-05-06T20:46:44 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T20:50:32 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T20:52:40 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-06T20:54:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T21:02:37 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=253_1462492307 2016-05-06T21:13:44 < Steffanx> we already have a wannabee trump lorenzo. 2016-05-06T21:13:51 < Steffanx> we actually had one for years now in dtuchland 2016-05-06T21:14:02 < Steffanx> He is not rich though. 2016-05-06T21:19:41 < gxti> what good is a populist buffoon if he doesn't at least have some money? 2016-05-06T21:20:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T21:21:13 < Steffanx> i believe he does get large gifts from people that support him. 2016-05-06T21:28:32 < Steffanx> As a os x pro, what tools you use for screenshots ReadError? 2016-05-06T21:29:05 < ReadError> well, mostly command+shift+4 2016-05-06T21:29:15 < ReadError> then paste it on snag.gy 2016-05-06T21:29:24 < ReadError> wish they had something like ShareX 2016-05-06T21:30:13 < Steffanx> ugly. 2016-05-06T21:30:23 < ReadError> sharex is? 2016-05-06T21:30:42 < ReadError> or built in OSX stuff 2016-05-06T21:30:43 < Steffanx> i mean the cmd+shift+4 method 2016-05-06T21:30:48 < ReadError> if you find something better lemme know 2016-05-06T21:31:00 < Steffanx> I used skitch a lot, but since its from evernote it sucks arse. 2016-05-06T21:31:06 < ReadError> sharex is perfect 2016-05-06T21:31:08 < Steffanx> ( you can still download the usable old version though) 2016-05-06T21:31:17 < ReadError> just not for OSX :( 2016-05-06T21:31:25 < Steffanx> time to port it :P 2016-05-06T21:31:41 < Steffanx> oh its C# 2016-05-06T21:33:10 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T21:33:30 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-06T22:17:05 < Laurenceb> what causes me to be unable to print variables during debugging? 2016-05-06T22:17:14 < Laurenceb> (gdb) p RLD_replaced 2016-05-06T22:17:14 < Laurenceb> No symbol "RLD_replaced" in current context. 2016-05-06T22:17:26 < Laurenceb> yet its right there in the code I'm halted in 2016-05-06T22:21:58 < jpa-> optimization? 2016-05-06T22:28:33 < Laurenceb> gDWARF or something 2016-05-06T22:28:44 < Laurenceb> -gdwarf even 2016-05-06T22:29:21 < Laurenceb> shit why did I even start this stupid project 2016-05-06T22:30:54 < Laurenceb> literally the only thing on the ads1298 that meets spec is the adcs 2016-05-06T22:32:49 < Laurenceb> its almost as annoying as the hellpro4 or beagleboned black 2016-05-06T22:37:28 -!- __rob [~rob@host109-153-137-249.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-06T22:59:14 < Steffanx> pebkac. 2016-05-06T22:59:22 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T23:00:33 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-06T23:04:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-06T23:10:15 < emeb> PaulFertser: ping! 2016-05-06T23:10:49 -!- _av500_ [~av500@lgf.archos.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T23:11:01 * _av500_ whistles innocently 2016-05-06T23:11:52 < Steffanx> uhm, hi? 2016-05-06T23:13:38 < _av500_> hi :) 2016-05-06T23:16:23 < PaulFertser> emeb: pong 2016-05-06T23:16:30 < ReadError> ? 2016-05-06T23:17:01 < emeb> PaulFertser: OpenOCD question - is there an interface that works with GPIO on the local machine 2016-05-06T23:17:20 < PaulFertser> emeb: yes, sysfsgpio on any Linux system 2016-05-06T23:17:33 < emeb> PaulFertser: cool 2016-05-06T23:17:55 < PaulFertser> emeb: on rpi it's faster to use bcm2835gpio driver. 2016-05-06T23:17:55 < emeb> Got a guy who's thinking of running it on an embedded linux machine (beagle, etc) with lots of gpio. 2016-05-06T23:18:11 < PaulFertser> Yeah, sysfsgpio will work, with swd too. 2016-05-06T23:18:21 < emeb> Cool - thx! 2016-05-06T23:18:27 < PaulFertser> welcome :) 2016-05-06T23:24:00 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T23:24:47 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T23:26:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T23:28:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-06T23:30:35 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T23:32:38 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-06T23:33:14 < Rob235> no not really but I'm sure some does, and anything more than none is concerning 2016-05-06T23:33:48 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@dhcp142.chs.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-06T23:41:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-06T23:47:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d40b50.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sat May 07 2016 2016-05-07T00:01:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T00:05:45 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T00:06:07 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T00:10:51 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae0dc.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T00:14:45 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-07T00:21:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T00:37:45 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-07T00:39:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-07T00:57:00 < Thorn> must be buck, I have something similar but with a different ic 2016-05-07T00:57:10 < Thorn> no idea how they can sell it so cheap 2016-05-07T00:58:12 < Thorn> in my case it was lm2596-adj (which alone cost more in digikey that the module) 2016-05-07T01:00:35 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-07T01:02:30 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwvuulixfhwshvsg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T01:07:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:fd5f:3831:c6b6:d6a6] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T01:15:03 < PaulFertser> ST source code itself is damn offensive and it's not even a joke! 2016-05-07T01:16:27 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T01:23:32 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T01:27:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T01:42:16 < karlp> ohsix: why? 2016-05-07T01:47:08 < Thorn> another question is how ebay would react to you scraping it 2016-05-07T01:54:19 < aandrew> ohsix: are you the new employee? 2016-05-07T01:55:56 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T01:55:56 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-07T01:55:56 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T01:56:37 < upgrdman_> i know DIPs are dumb, but whats a good rail-to-rail op amp in a DIP package. 2016-05-07T01:56:47 < upgrdman_> nothing really fancy, just a basic part, but must be DIP 2016-05-07T01:56:54 < upgrdman_> and rail-to-rail 2016-05-07T01:59:28 < upgrdman_> ya 2016-05-07T01:59:43 < karlp> Laurenceb: don't use -gdwarf, use -ggdb3 or just -g3... 2016-05-07T02:00:12 < upgrdman_> well dual or quad would be good 2016-05-07T02:00:23 < upgrdman_> but one is fine, i'll just have to hand wire fucktons of them :/ 2016-05-07T02:01:13 < BrainDamage> 072 is dual 2016-05-07T02:01:18 < BrainDamage> 074 is quad 2016-05-07T02:01:22 < karlp> opamps? what ar ethose? don't you just use the ADC and the DAC and write more software? 2016-05-07T02:01:37 < karlp> if you absolutely _must_ deal with the analog yourself? 2016-05-07T02:02:19 < aandrew> op amps are very useful 2016-05-07T02:02:35 < aandrew> preconditioning of a signal before you try to sample it 2016-05-07T02:03:06 < aandrew> opamps and comparators are kissing cousins 2016-05-07T02:03:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T02:03:18 < aandrew> you can use one as a shitty version of the other 2016-05-07T02:03:29 < BrainDamage> comparators are opamps without dominant pole compensation 2016-05-07T02:03:40 < aandrew> comparators are usually designed for speed, and opamps for accuracy 2016-05-07T02:03:53 < BrainDamage> they won't be unconditionally stable in closed loop, you'd either have to ensure min gain or compensate yourself 2016-05-07T02:05:23 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T02:05:56 < aandrew> I love the movie the croods 2016-05-07T02:05:58 < Lux> upgrdman_: https://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Standardbauelemente#Analog search for rail2rail 2016-05-07T02:06:11 < Lux> all that stuff should be dip 2016-05-07T02:06:12 < aandrew> the mother in law shtick is awesome 2016-05-07T02:06:28 < aandrew> you can always use SO8s in DIP adapters 2016-05-07T02:23:47 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, so an op amp can always be used as a comparator right? but amps labeled as comparators will just be a little faster? 2016-05-07T02:24:48 < BrainDamage> "yes", thre's some other things that vary 2016-05-07T02:24:57 < BrainDamage> offset, bias currents, etc 2016-05-07T02:25:26 < BrainDamage> comparators have beefy transistors to reduce value spreading 2016-05-07T02:25:52 < BrainDamage> opamps instead distribute it a bit more more to reduce noise 2016-05-07T02:26:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-07T02:26:52 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T02:27:47 < upgrdman> offset is being able to detect small differences between the inputs right. like if rated at 3mV nominal, it cant accurately detect a difference of 3mV between inputs? 2016-05-07T02:28:05 < upgrdman> and op amps tens to have better (lower) offset? 2016-05-07T02:29:16 < BrainDamage> the comparator will have better offset figures, it's a sort of inhrent equivalent voltage bias at the input that's reflecting the internal asymmetry 2016-05-07T02:29:31 < BrainDamage> there'll be a deterministic part, and a statistical part 2016-05-07T02:29:35 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-07T02:29:47 < BrainDamage> the deterministic you can compensate for, the statistical is from manifacturer tollerances 2016-05-07T02:30:02 < BrainDamage> even the deterministic is partially troublesome because it'll change with temp, etc 2016-05-07T02:33:36 < Laurenceb_> hmm opamps 2016-05-07T02:33:47 < Laurenceb_> if only id used them instead of aids1298 2016-05-07T02:35:15 < Laurenceb_> oh I know 2016-05-07T02:35:42 < Laurenceb_> yeah I'm suspecting there is some reason for occasional noise on my bus causing BERR 2016-05-07T02:35:50 < Laurenceb_> my error handling code seems to need more work 2016-05-07T02:38:16 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T02:42:51 < upgrdman> anyone know of cases like this for sale? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-ST-Link-V2-Stlink-Emulator-Downloader-Programming-STM8-STM32-w-Metal-Shell-/381237466793?hash=item58c38616a9:g:GwYAAOSwstxVOgsj ... i'd buy those and through out the pcb, but that case is pre-etched with text and shit 2016-05-07T02:42:59 < upgrdman> that's like a perfect usb accessory case 2016-05-07T02:44:18 < upgrdman> or is there a phrase i can google to find similar cases? 2016-05-07T02:45:41 < Laurenceb_> thats cute 2016-05-07T02:45:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:dc59:bf14:3206:b52a] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T02:46:07 < upgrdman> ya i know but in that shape, and with the usb a plastic shim thinggy 2016-05-07T02:46:18 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, ya i used them with my stm shits. work great too. 2016-05-07T02:46:43 < upgrdman> cheap, small, reliable, can power shit from it, has nice 3v3 reg (300mA iirc) 2016-05-07T02:47:27 < upgrdman> no, its laser etched 2016-05-07T02:47:29 < upgrdman> not paint 2016-05-07T02:56:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-07T02:56:56 < dongs> revolution 60 out soon 2016-05-07T02:57:01 < dongs> how many of you preordered on steam 2016-05-07T03:06:57 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-07T03:09:05 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T03:09:49 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8780:c200:fd5f:3831:c6b6:d6a6] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-07T03:09:55 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T03:10:33 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwvuulixfhwshvsg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-07T03:11:24 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-07T03:15:23 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxxccpjwrimaueff] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T03:15:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:dc59:bf14:3206:b52a] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-07T03:16:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-07T03:37:03 < dongs> ordered somethin from shitbay 2016-05-07T03:37:07 < dongs> from china 2016-05-07T03:37:14 < dongs> received a RSxxxxNL tracking number 2016-05-07T03:37:20 < dongs> so legit 2016-05-07T03:59:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T04:09:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T04:28:39 < upgrdman> ohsix, link plz 2016-05-07T04:29:47 < upgrdman> yay! thanks. been looking for ages, didnt know what phase to google 2016-05-07T04:32:32 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/06/microsoft_update_asus_windows_7/ 2016-05-07T04:32:33 < dongs> lol 2016-05-07T04:34:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-07T04:54:11 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d412e5.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T04:57:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d40b50.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-07T04:59:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-07T05:02:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T05:19:35 < dongs> autism 2016-05-07T05:20:41 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T05:21:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-07T05:26:12 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d40d9d.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T05:28:15 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d412e5.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-07T05:36:46 < englishman> dongs, whats a media player that uses CEC that isnt lunix and/or doesnt suck 2016-05-07T05:36:56 < englishman> specifically that can play h265 reasonably 2016-05-07T05:37:18 < englishman> time to replace kodi + rpi2 2016-05-07T05:37:52 < englishman> The Introduction of XL6009 Step-up Power Module DC-DC 2016-05-07T05:37:53 < englishman> thanks o6 2016-05-07T05:38:07 < englishman> o different convo lol 2016-05-07T05:38:46 < dongs> < englishman> dongs, whats a media player that uses CEC that isnt lunix and/or doesnt suck 2016-05-07T05:38:49 < dongs> doesnt exist 2016-05-07T05:38:58 < englishman> that sux 2016-05-07T05:39:11 < dongs> chinks gave up on making proper media players so just ship some garbage + kockdi + call it done 2016-05-07T05:39:19 < dongs> sigma stuff is still $300+ 2016-05-07T05:39:22 < dongs> cuz nobody buys it 2016-05-07T05:39:30 < englishman> theres also OSMC but that looks like a fork of kodi 2016-05-07T05:39:31 < englishman> and lunix 2016-05-07T05:40:27 < emeb_mac> dongs: get that ice5 FPGA working? 2016-05-07T05:40:32 < dongs> yar 2016-05-07T05:40:38 < emeb_mac> kewl 2016-05-07T05:40:46 < emeb_mac> mine works good 2016-05-07T05:41:08 < emeb_mac> got an f303 configuring it, then controlling it over the same spi port 2016-05-07T05:41:18 < dongs> pro 2016-05-07T05:47:30 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae0dc.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T05:49:56 < englishman> hm c2 does have h265 hardware decode 2016-05-07T05:54:27 < Shavik> I'd appreciate if someone could help me out. Newbie to STM32 and/or ARM. Got a Nucleo F030R8. Trying to get it to be an SPI Master 2016-05-07T05:54:39 < Shavik> Can't seem to find consistent examples of using HAL to get it going 2016-05-07T05:54:53 < Shavik> Various references to stuff such as RCC_APB2Periph_SPI1 and I can't seem to find what to include to get those. 2016-05-07T05:55:13 < Shavik> Hmm 2016-05-07T05:56:57 < Shavik> In cube it's asking for project settings. I'm using VisualGDB with VS2015. 2016-05-07T05:58:04 < Shavik> Ah ok. Now it's downloading 112mb very slowly :/ 2016-05-07T05:58:14 < Shavik> I had only used cube as kind of like a pin planner so far 2016-05-07T05:58:22 < Shavik> Open to advice 2016-05-07T05:59:35 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T05:59:41 < Shavik> But still, I should be able to find this out without having the code generated for me right? 2016-05-07T06:00:07 < Shavik> Yea I just couldn't seem to find it 2016-05-07T06:06:43 < Shavik> http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/arm/stm32/cube/ 2016-05-07T06:06:51 < Shavik> I had not seen this. 2016-05-07T06:14:24 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-07T06:22:49 < emeb_mac> some clients of mine are looking into using VisualGDB 2016-05-07T06:23:12 < emeb_mac> since they already use Visual Studio for some other products it seems like a good solution. 2016-05-07T06:31:54 < englishman> http://mashable.com/2016/05/05/gopro-drone-karma-delayed/#AOxrqBk8aiq2 2016-05-07T06:31:55 < englishman> lol 2016-05-07T06:31:58 < englishman> should have dickstarted 2016-05-07T06:34:12 < englishman> 1440p what a joke 2016-05-07T06:35:37 < englishman> if they dickstarted and had preorders, they could be sitting on millions now, waiting for the right time to drop a half finished shitty product and start the next dickstarter for v2 2016-05-07T06:36:08 < ReadError> new yi is gonna cockslap gopro around good n proper 2016-05-07T06:38:11 < ReadError> ohsix i have that booster somewhere 2016-05-07T06:38:49 < ReadError> why cant it be both?? 2016-05-07T06:39:41 < englishman> if the clone is better than the original in almost every way, is it still a clone? 2016-05-07T06:39:43 < ReadError> anti vax'rs should take notes 2016-05-07T06:40:05 < dongs> baofengs are here 2016-05-07T06:40:10 < dongs> good value for $14 2016-05-07T06:40:17 < englishman> baofungs are great 2016-05-07T06:40:24 < englishman> can take down ezuhf with ease 2016-05-07T06:40:25 < dongs> antenna connector is SMA or some other shit, I could screw on my huge antenna on it 2016-05-07T06:40:31 < dongs> gotta see how much spectrum they rape 2016-05-07T06:40:32 < ReadError> dongs some jap bout a kissy and fireESCs 2016-05-07T06:40:34 < dongs> turning on analyzer 2016-05-07T06:40:54 < englishman> are you going to give your kids ham licenses too 2016-05-07T06:40:54 < ReadError> bought the expensive lot too idk why 2016-05-07T06:49:35 < Shavik> Ok. Got my stm32cube code imported into visualgdb :) thanks ohsix 2016-05-07T06:49:41 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-05-07T06:51:49 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T06:52:20 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/6JmcEsB.jpg baofeng'd 2016-05-07T06:56:46 < dongs> 462.11 2016-05-07T06:56:48 < dongs> is ch1 2016-05-07T06:57:00 < dongs> or somethin around that 2016-05-07T07:02:32 < ReadError> isnt that a wifi antenna? 2016-05-07T07:04:53 < dongs> no 2016-05-07T07:04:56 < dongs> its 470-860mhz 2016-05-07T07:05:05 < dongs> its for my 50W digital tv van 2016-05-07T07:05:19 < dongs> so I can block NHK 2016-05-07T07:11:28 < dongs> oh altidong 16.1 is out 2016-05-07T07:11:33 < dongs> time to try out draftsman 2016-05-07T07:45:16 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-07T08:17:49 < ReadError> yaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn 2016-05-07T08:43:57 < dongs> some jewtub video had that thing talking in english 2016-05-07T08:43:59 < dongs> all i can get is chink 2016-05-07T08:45:02 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T09:36:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-07T09:52:52 -!- kOStiX [~kOStiX@189.136.227.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T10:05:13 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-07T10:05:16 < dongs> all this software is so chink 2016-05-07T10:05:26 < dongs> made a 4 pin audio cable thingy to serial 2016-05-07T10:05:27 < dongs> and it aint working 2016-05-07T10:06:22 < dongs> http://www.uv3r.com/images/UV-3R_Interface.jpeg wat am i doin wrong 2016-05-07T10:22:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T10:28:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-07T10:31:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T10:34:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T10:37:07 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T10:40:00 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/c9ci9qw.png 2016-05-07T10:40:10 < ReadError> seems like the display scaling is a little fucky still 2016-05-07T10:40:30 < ReadError> or something its making the reports font super big 2016-05-07T10:42:08 < dongs> lol tyou fucking kike 2016-05-07T10:42:14 < dongs> blacked out shit clone projects 2016-05-07T10:42:16 < dongs> k, radio works 2016-05-07T10:42:29 < dongs> my usual 2102 breakout had too much load on rx/tx line si guess and it was confusing it 2016-05-07T10:42:34 < dongs> switched to a shitteier one and all ok 2016-05-07T10:42:37 < dongs> menus finally in english 2016-05-07T10:43:23 < ReadError> does yours have huge text in reports? 2016-05-07T10:43:49 < ReadError> all around it works much better than 15 though so im happy 2016-05-07T11:14:47 < dongs> nope looks normal 2016-05-07T11:22:31 < kOStiX> just did the best toner transfer of my life haha 2016-05-07T11:27:49 < dongs> ReadError: wait waht the fuck you dumb nigger, 16.1.7 is out 2016-05-07T11:27:55 < dongs> with "more fixes for highdpi displays" 2016-05-07T11:28:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T11:31:51 < ReadError> huh wait 2016-05-07T11:31:57 < ReadError> they use firefox to display that page? 2016-05-07T11:33:33 < kOStiX> http://imgur.com/a/LNKzm 2016-05-07T11:34:33 < ReadError> using ferric chloride ? 2016-05-07T11:34:42 < kOStiX> its still not etched 2016-05-07T11:34:48 < ReadError> well ya 2016-05-07T11:34:49 < kOStiX> just removed the paper 2016-05-07T11:34:51 < ReadError> i mean when you do 2016-05-07T11:34:52 < kOStiX> but yeah 2016-05-07T11:34:55 < kOStiX> ferric 2016-05-07T11:37:34 < kOStiX> was ironing it for like 30-40 mins 2016-05-07T11:37:57 < kOStiX> printed on glossy magazine paper thru a sheet of normal paper 2016-05-07T11:38:05 < kOStiX> i mean ironed the normal paper 2016-05-07T11:40:00 < kOStiX> haha thanks 2016-05-07T11:40:05 < kOStiX> still gotta transfer the other side 2016-05-07T11:40:52 < Steffanx> lol, indeed ohsix. Firefox version 13 :D 2016-05-07T11:41:25 < Steffanx> oh, that version is only from juni 2012. Just 4 years old. 2016-05-07T11:41:52 < Steffanx> Imho it is pretty fuckly you can actually browse the web using that in-altium browser 2016-05-07T11:43:12 < Steffanx> sure, but i dont like the idea it's a oldish browser. 2016-05-07T11:43:25 < Steffanx> on the other had, my altium is warezed so why should i care :P 2016-05-07T11:43:39 < ReadError> funny they use the internet explorer icon 2016-05-07T11:45:01 < Steffanx> time to install some custom CSS tool so you can edit your font size ReadError :P 2016-05-07T11:45:14 < ReadError> ehhh doesnt matter that much 2016-05-07T11:45:17 < ReadError> just dumb 2016-05-07T11:58:30 < Steffanx> Yo mamma is so fat, when i have a flat tire i dont have to pump it up, i can use her as a tire, crt 2016-05-07T11:58:45 < Steffanx> *wheel 2016-05-07T11:59:19 < Steffanx> then yo sistah? 2016-05-07T11:59:43 < Steffanx> Then the joke does not apply. 2016-05-07T12:00:48 < Steffanx> Isn't that what we're doing right now? 2016-05-07T12:01:33 < Steffanx> Hows the factory? 2016-05-07T12:02:46 < PeterM> fuuuck 2016-05-07T12:02:49 < Steffanx> when? 2016-05-07T12:02:59 < PeterM> things accomplished today: 0 2016-05-07T12:03:28 < PeterM> money and time spend: a lot 2016-05-07T12:03:30 < dongs> i changed bed in my 3d dicker 2016-05-07T12:03:36 < dongs> to glass one 2016-05-07T12:03:41 < dongs> releveled 2016-05-07T12:03:49 < dongs> gonna see if it still prints 2016-05-07T12:03:50 < PeterM> contract harvesting, except today major breakdown 2016-05-07T12:03:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T12:03:55 < Steffanx> you have a 3d printer dongs? 2016-05-07T12:04:01 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-07T12:04:07 < dongs> also known as 3d dicker 2016-05-07T12:04:08 < PeterM> boring as batshit but sweet monies 2016-05-07T12:04:18 < Steffanx> which one? As im surprised now 2016-05-07T12:04:28 < dongs> Steffanx: its dickstarter that my pal is workin on 2016-05-07T12:04:37 < Steffanx> oh, ok. 2016-05-07T12:04:38 < dongs> i'm halping with firmware. 2016-05-07T12:05:16 < dongs> dickstart 3d printer. 2016-05-07T12:05:19 < Steffanx> Yet another disaster 3d printer that is going to fail in 2 years because.. 3d printer 2016-05-07T12:05:24 < dongs> ya 2016-05-07T12:05:26 < dongs> precisely 2016-05-07T12:05:30 < dongs> cashgrab and done 2016-05-07T12:05:47 < Steffanx> Didn't this well know 3d printer business stop lately. 2016-05-07T12:05:53 < Steffanx> or was sold, dont remember 2016-05-07T12:06:35 < dongs> yes 2016-05-07T12:06:45 < dongs> infact 2016-05-07T12:06:48 < dongs> it ONLY prints fat dicks 2016-05-07T12:06:54 < dongs> thats the sales point 2016-05-07T12:07:08 < dongs> want a printer that prints fat, juicy dicks? your search is over. 2016-05-07T12:07:53 < Steffanx> does it come with a touch screen for easy parameter adjustments? 2016-05-07T12:08:10 < dongs> no thats for faggots 2016-05-07T12:08:16 < dongs> if it works, you dont need to adjust stuff 2016-05-07T12:08:22 < Steffanx> that's a must have. 2016-05-07T12:08:41 < dongs> i will add a touchscreen just to display a rotating dick while its printing 2016-05-07T12:08:42 < Steffanx> dont want to use the same size all the time. One can go larger after a while. 2016-05-07T12:08:44 < dongs> meatspin.gif 2016-05-07T12:08:49 < Steffanx> or does it come with a special training program? 2016-05-07T12:13:10 < dongs> thats kirk 2016-05-07T12:14:10 < Steffanx> ok, never goign to click crt's links again either 2016-05-07T12:17:21 < Fleck> what happens if, for example on f407 I set PA7 and PB5 pins as AF5 ? 2016-05-07T12:17:33 < Fleck> can I use both? 2016-05-07T12:17:41 < zyp> what function is that? 2016-05-07T12:17:46 < Fleck> SPI1 MOSI 2016-05-07T12:17:50 < dongs> find out 2016-05-07T12:17:53 < dongs> i've always wanted to know 2016-05-07T12:18:04 < dongs> if there's alt pins and you turn them all on 2016-05-07T12:18:04 < zyp> my guess is that they are either ORed or ANDed together 2016-05-07T12:18:10 < zyp> if both are enabled 2016-05-07T12:18:12 < Fleck> ohh, I see 2016-05-07T12:18:35 < zyp> you are not supposed to enable more than one, so it's not documented which 2016-05-07T12:18:47 < zyp> but from a hardware perspective, that's how it makes sense to design it 2016-05-07T12:25:13 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxxccpjwrimaueff] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-07T12:28:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T12:46:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T13:10:41 < Steffanx> get an tarduino 2016-05-07T13:10:44 < Steffanx> -n 2016-05-07T13:13:07 < kakimir> #stoners32 2016-05-07T13:19:42 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIV-QdPEx-Q 2016-05-07T13:35:12 < Steffanx> aussies are into that? 2016-05-07T13:42:46 < PeterM> into what 2016-05-07T13:43:38 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T13:43:39 < Steffanx> nazi armies marching and wannabee look-a-like music. 2016-05-07T13:43:56 -!- kOStiX [~kOStiX@189.136.227.226] has quit [] 2016-05-07T13:44:39 < PeterM> i thin kthat is sp[ecific to crt 2016-05-07T13:44:52 < PeterM> well, crt + japang 2016-05-07T13:47:35 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-05-07T13:48:11 -!- whopwhop [524834a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.72.52.160] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T13:48:15 -!- whopwhop [524834a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.72.52.160] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-07T13:48:30 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-05-07T14:11:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.91] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T14:14:03 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T14:22:33 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-07T14:26:56 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T14:32:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.41.50] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T14:42:16 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T14:43:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T14:47:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.155] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T14:48:35 < dongs> looks like the print succeeded 2016-05-07T14:50:15 < ReadError> reprape-ing? 2016-05-07T14:50:42 < dongs> i wouldnt be involved wiht faggotry 2016-05-07T14:51:42 < ReadError> bout the only time that phrase is muttered 2016-05-07T14:52:11 < dongs> which one? 2016-05-07T14:52:20 < dongs> its i just installed new bed and quick-n-dirty leveled it 2016-05-07T14:52:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-07T14:53:03 < dongs> so i half expected to come back to a mess of trash 2016-05-07T14:53:25 < ReadError> so you are 3d printarding 2016-05-07T14:53:59 < dongs> We will finalize our production line for carnitas in December, 2016. Production Series 1 of flatev machines will be delivered for our Kickstarter backers (you!) in August, 2017. 2016-05-07T14:54:09 < dongs> how can people drop $400 on something more than a year away 2016-05-07T14:54:09 < dongs> lol 2016-05-07T14:54:15 < dongs> ridiculous 2016-05-07T14:54:41 < ReadError> tortilla maker lol 2016-05-07T14:54:45 < dongs> yea lol 2016-05-07T14:54:47 < dongs> utterly useless 2016-05-07T14:55:00 < ReadError> lol 2016-05-07T14:55:01 < ReadError> pod dough 2016-05-07T14:55:02 < dongs> best part = you gotta buy their fucking dough packs 2016-05-07T14:55:03 < ReadError> wtf 2016-05-07T14:55:07 < dongs> somehow 2016-05-07T14:55:08 < dongs> somewhere 2016-05-07T14:55:33 < ReadError> fucking useless for sure 2016-05-07T14:55:39 < ReadError> 1 pod = 1 torilla 2016-05-07T14:55:41 < dongs> time to hit freelancer 2016-05-07T14:56:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/MIPS-Assembly-program-open-bidding/ 2016-05-07T14:57:09 < kakimir> paying for homework? 2016-05-07T14:57:28 < ReadError> http://goo.gl/uvNSeG 2016-05-07T14:57:32 < ReadError> @ dongs 2016-05-07T14:58:01 < dongs> spicexpress 2016-05-07T14:58:16 < kakimir> natural birth control? 2016-05-07T14:58:30 < dongs> ReadError: how 2 link: http://es.aliexpress.com/item/0/32638259247.html 2016-05-07T14:58:31 < ReadError> naze32 2016-05-07T14:58:40 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Redesign-our-PCB-add-Bluetooth/ these guys are back. i guess thier last bid failed 2016-05-07T14:58:53 < dongs> i would redo their boards for about 2k 2016-05-07T14:58:57 < dongs> but NOT rewrite their firmware 2016-05-07T14:58:58 < dongs> waht hte fuck 2016-05-07T15:00:01 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsWNq8ZvQzE if anyone is interested in paragliding.. check these guys making it an artform 2016-05-07T15:00:52 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/GENERATOR-EOLICO/ 2016-05-07T15:00:53 < dongs> L O L 2016-05-07T15:00:56 < dongs> attn englishman 2016-05-07T15:02:19 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Testing/reverse-engineering-quadcopter-boards-10428531/ 2016-05-07T15:02:22 < dongs> fuck, i cant bid on this 2016-05-07T15:02:26 < dongs> without paying feelancer 2016-05-07T15:02:26 < dongs> lol 2016-05-07T15:02:43 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T15:02:49 < kakimir> I think I need to remove my accounts from freelance shiets 2016-05-07T15:03:02 < ReadError> you gotta pay? why 2016-05-07T15:03:15 < dongs> ReadError: above $2 or 3k budget you have to be on non-free plan 2016-05-07T15:03:17 < dongs> in order to bid 2016-05-07T15:03:24 < dongs> (scam) 2016-05-07T15:03:32 < ReadError> oh fuck that 2016-05-07T15:03:36 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T15:03:37 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-07T15:03:37 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-05-07T15:04:25 < dongs> this is the buyer https://www.freelancer.com/u/phoenixson.html 2016-05-07T15:05:08 < Rob235> Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong 2016-05-07T15:05:34 < dongs> chapped cock 2016-05-07T15:05:44 < Rob235> yup 2016-05-07T15:09:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T15:09:38 < dongs> nothing else good on feelancer 2016-05-07T15:09:39 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-07T15:09:45 < dongs> severe lack of quality stuff lately. 2016-05-07T15:10:03 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T15:12:26 < dongs> now i haev to remember what the fuck else i was gonna print 2016-05-07T15:13:25 < Laurenceb_> https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9075825&cid=52065343 2016-05-07T15:13:26 < Rob235> damnit, my heater broke, why do I even need a heater in May? 2016-05-07T15:13:36 < Laurenceb_> freelancer is for freelancers 2016-05-07T15:13:44 < Steffanx> What temp is it in yankeeland Rob235? 2016-05-07T15:13:45 < Laurenceb_> I'm not a fan of freelancing :( 2016-05-07T15:14:14 < Rob235> 50F right now 2016-05-07T15:14:29 < Steffanx> Do metric please. 2016-05-07T15:14:49 < Rob235> 10C 2016-05-07T15:14:57 < Steffanx> :P 2016-05-07T15:15:45 < Laurenceb_> Trump temperature 2016-05-07T15:15:55 < Rob235> please don't mention that idiot 2016-05-07T15:16:22 < ReadError> http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/1/8/4/8/5/a8957718-12-DSCF5878.jpg 2016-05-07T15:16:30 < Laurenceb_> we all know you voted for him 2016-05-07T15:16:35 < ReadError> usin that big ole TI driver on the phantoms 2016-05-07T15:16:43 < Laurenceb_> holy shit wut 2016-05-07T15:16:59 < Laurenceb_> more parts than pc motherboard 2016-05-07T15:17:19 < Laurenceb_> new zano project? 2016-05-07T15:18:20 < Laurenceb_> oh its a DJI phantom? 2016-05-07T15:18:57 < Steffanx> is that really ESCs on board with each their own controller? 2016-05-07T15:19:07 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DJI-Phantom-3-Advanced-ADV-Drone-NEW-ESC-Center-Board-MC-Part-96-960kV/152001584140 2016-05-07T15:19:09 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-07T15:19:47 < Rob235> thats pretty cool 2016-05-07T15:20:33 < Laurenceb_> pretty absurd 2016-05-07T15:20:37 < Rob235> why? 2016-05-07T15:20:49 < Laurenceb_> they wanted to copypasta code so just grabbed a ton of micros 2016-05-07T15:21:03 < Laurenceb_> I'm sure they could have made it run on a single stm 2016-05-07T15:21:24 < Rob235> ohh I didnt realize that's what was going on, I just liked how the escs were on the same board :) 2016-05-07T15:21:36 < Laurenceb_> thats lame 2016-05-07T15:21:41 < Rob235> although if something breaks your fucked 2016-05-07T15:21:55 < Laurenceb_> if you are going for everything integrated then they should learn to program 2016-05-07T15:22:11 < Laurenceb_> it looks like they cloned some existing ESC 2016-05-07T15:22:45 < Steffanx> "they should learn to program" hah 2016-05-07T15:24:51 < kakimir> http://www.biltema.fi/fi/Tyokalut/Hitsaaminen-ja-juottaminen/Juotostarvikkeet/Tinanpoisto-korjaustyokalut-6-kpl-2000016777/ what are these? 2016-05-07T15:24:58 < kakimir> say solder repair/remove kit 2016-05-07T15:25:09 < Laurenceb_> tooth picks 2016-05-07T15:25:13 < Steffanx> Your finnish is better then mine kakimir. 2016-05-07T15:25:14 < kakimir> looks shit 2016-05-07T15:25:26 < kakimir> is there any practical use 2016-05-07T15:28:02 < kakimir> yeah 2016-05-07T15:37:35 < PeterM> that TI chip onlky has 2 current sense amps doesnt it? 2016-05-07T15:37:54 < PeterM> whay is der 3 shints 2016-05-07T15:38:10 < kakimir> TI chip? 2016-05-07T15:38:26 < PeterM> [22:16] http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/1/8/4/8/5/a8957718-12-DSCF5878.jpg 2016-05-07T15:40:03 < Sync> lel custom lasered shit 2016-05-07T15:40:37 < PeterM> probs just f103 2016-05-07T15:40:47 < kakimir> http://www.tooloutlet.fi/product_pictures/big/Kaasuhitsaussarja+Elga+GasiQ+D75+Ergo-7407.jpg what is this in english? 2016-05-07T15:41:35 < PeterM> oxy-acetylene cutting torch nozzle kit 2016-05-07T15:41:47 < Laurenceb_> hmm yeah that could be an f103 2016-05-07T15:42:39 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2055845.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xoxy-acetylene.TRS0&_nkw=oxy-acetylene&_sacat=0 time to burn my workshop to ground 2016-05-07T15:42:56 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-07T15:43:29 < kakimir> should chinese under 100$ kit be connected to high pressure bottles of oxygen and acetylene... 2016-05-07T15:46:46 < kakimir> you are deeply mentally challenged 2016-05-07T15:46:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:c80f:4442:1e5f:4cb] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T15:46:53 * Rob235 agrees 2016-05-07T15:47:37 < ReadError> PeterM if you look closely, you can see they had the chips marked with their logo heh 2016-05-07T15:48:29 < Lux> kinda looks a bit similar to the vesc 2016-05-07T15:48:42 < PeterM> ReadError, i saw, but i assumed because dji is trush its not custom, only rebadged, so not worth mentioning 2016-05-07T15:49:57 < ReadError> Lux slightly different one, looks like its marked DRV8301 2016-05-07T15:50:08 < Lux> right 2016-05-07T15:50:38 < ReadError> seems kinda overkill for a tiny motor 2016-05-07T15:51:11 < Lux> maybe they do FOC control 2016-05-07T15:51:29 < Lux> in that case you'd need it 2016-05-07T15:51:31 < ReadError> Is that a PIC? 2016-05-07T15:51:36 < ReadError> they have TDO TDI 2016-05-07T15:51:42 < ReadError> TCK 2016-05-07T15:51:49 < PeterM> isnt that just jtag 2016-05-07T15:51:52 < ReadError> TMS 2016-05-07T15:51:56 < ReadError> oh idk... 2016-05-07T15:52:10 < ReadError> legs seem wider than those found on the stm32 2016-05-07T15:53:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T15:57:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:c80f:4442:1e5f:4cb] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-07T15:58:00 < dongs> ReadError: lol wat is that trash, dji? 2016-05-07T15:58:11 < dongs> the 48qfp are silabs 2016-05-07T15:58:14 < dongs> you can see the logo in lower left. 2016-05-07T15:58:31 < ReadError> ahhh figured it wasnt st 2016-05-07T15:58:37 < ReadError> yea dji phantom3 board 2016-05-07T15:58:48 < ReadError> i really just wanted a shell 2016-05-07T15:58:54 < ReadError> but found that in the process 2016-05-07T15:59:40 < Sync> Lux: you can get away with two or even just one shunt with FOC 2016-05-07T16:00:01 < ReadError> VESC 5 I think vedder said hes going to 3 shunts 2016-05-07T16:01:19 < dongs> shruggin 2016-05-07T16:01:56 < ReadError> so lend me your ears for a minute 2016-05-07T16:02:12 < ReadError> I know read protection on firmware etc can be locked 2016-05-07T16:02:23 < ReadError> but what limitations can be put on the SWD/JTAG interface 2016-05-07T16:02:32 < ReadError> while a device is in use 2016-05-07T16:02:36 < dongs> oh wowwww 2016-05-07T16:02:39 < dongs> draftsman is LEET 2016-05-07T16:02:48 < ReadError> crt are you original ? 2016-05-07T16:03:12 < ReadError> quit acting like dongs' sockpuppet, k? 2016-05-07T16:04:00 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/XlpX1Du.png 2016-05-07T16:04:02 < dongs> check this shit out 2016-05-07T16:05:45 < ReadError> oh you fucking cack 2016-05-07T16:05:57 < ReadError> "why would you need refdef on parts unless you are cloning" 2016-05-07T16:05:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T16:06:02 < ReadError> then i see you doing it too... 2016-05-07T16:06:25 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T16:06:59 < PeterM> ReadError, i hope hes abandoning the ti drv because its gate drivers are weak as shit 2016-05-07T16:07:23 < ReadError> PeterM I woud like to see him to with 2 different boards 2016-05-07T16:07:26 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-07T16:07:31 < ReadError> 1 MCU/logic and the other power related 2016-05-07T16:08:31 < dongs> ReadError: ? 2016-05-07T16:09:15 < PeterM> get sum UCC27211DRMR up ya 2016-05-07T16:09:33 < PeterM> punch them gates right in the cock 2016-05-07T16:09:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.157] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T16:10:44 < Steffanx> So what is that image with those pcbs dongs? 2016-05-07T16:11:06 < Steffanx> special tool to generate those from altium? 2016-05-07T16:12:57 < Steffanx> ..? 2016-05-07T16:13:20 < Steffanx> oh 2016-05-07T16:13:44 < Steffanx> Can I warez? 2016-05-07T16:13:51 < dongs> ya to do documentation 2016-05-07T16:13:53 < dongs> super super nice 2016-05-07T16:14:04 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/qkq8ymv.png 2016-05-07T16:14:11 < dongs> can do dimensions, callouts, layer stackup pic etc 2016-05-07T16:14:24 < Steffanx> I want fritzl in altium 2016-05-07T16:14:51 < Steffanx> What version is that dongs? 2016-05-07T16:14:57 < dongs> Steffanx: 16.1, latest 2016-05-07T16:15:03 < dongs> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Release+Notes+for+Altium+Designer+Version+16.1 2016-05-07T16:15:21 < dongs> i should read what else was fixed 2016-05-07T16:20:13 < dongs> 8928Fixed a regression issue where the generated PDF was doubled in size compared to earlier versions of Altium Designer. 2016-05-07T16:20:16 < dongs> thanks 2016-05-07T16:21:41 < dongs> 9263The PCB editor String dialog now uses Enter to accept and close the dialog, instead of entering a new line in the string. Use Shift+Enter to add a new line to the string. 2016-05-07T16:21:44 < dongs> more thanks 2016-05-07T16:22:06 < dongs> 9951Importing a large Allegro design could result in an "Out of memory" error, this has been resolved. 2016-05-07T16:22:07 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T16:22:09 < dongs> thanks for that too 2016-05-07T16:23:13 < dongs> 10803Unconnected/Floating Net labels within a schematic Blanket are now detected and reported correctly. 2016-05-07T16:23:17 < dongs> thats cool 2016-05-07T16:23:23 < dongs> that pissed me off a few times before 2016-05-07T16:23:33 < dongs> the only way to find out if blanket affected nets or not is to update to pcb 2016-05-07T16:23:39 < ReadError> dongs does it place the refdef in the part automatically now? 2016-05-07T16:23:48 < dongs> ? 2016-05-07T16:23:51 < ReadError> err designator 2016-05-07T16:23:55 < ReadError> R11 2016-05-07T16:23:55 < Laurenceb_> email to my "manager" : "you will need a usb cable to copy off the data" 2016-05-07T16:24:05 < Laurenceb_> reply : "what is a usb ?" 2016-05-07T16:24:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T16:24:18 < dongs> ReadError: it never did, centered thing was automatic by draftsman 2016-05-07T16:24:35 < dongs> 10857An issue where updating a schematic component from a library would result in the location of parameters being incorrectly changed, has been resolved. 2016-05-07T16:24:38 < dongs> i think i've hit this one a few times too 2016-05-07T16:24:41 < ReadError> dongs so you still need linked layers and to add it to every part? 2016-05-07T16:24:53 < dongs> no idea man, i dont professionally clone 2016-05-07T16:25:20 < Laurenceb_> expecting next email to read "how babby formed" 2016-05-07T16:25:59 < dongs> 9469Resolved an issue where a negative Mask expansion on a rectangular pad gave a zero sized opening, resulting in a zero sized Gerber aperture. oh hah 2016-05-07T16:27:20 < Sync> gg 2016-05-07T16:28:36 < dongs> 9688Altium Designer do not crashes anymore 2016-05-07T16:28:56 < dongs> 9735From version 16.1, Altium Designer no longer supports Windows XP. You will not be able to perform an install, or update an installed build. 2016-05-07T16:28:59 < dongs> thank fuck 2016-05-07T16:29:11 < dongs> nothing below 7 should be supported 2016-05-07T16:29:20 < dongs> and any cruft related to pre-7 should be nuked 2016-05-07T16:29:35 < ReadError> "Altium Designer do not crashes anymore" 2016-05-07T16:29:36 < ReadError> lul 2016-05-07T16:29:57 < ReadError> actually i havent had it go ape shit yet 2016-05-07T16:29:58 < dongs> 11055Commonly used settings are now used as defaults in Altium Designer. 2016-05-07T16:30:00 < dongs> wut 2016-05-07T16:30:07 < ReadError> with the DRC 2016-05-07T16:30:34 < dongs> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/((3D+Measurements))_AD 2016-05-07T16:31:56 < ReadError> the need to add math for dimensions and placements 2016-05-07T16:32:13 < ReadError> 100mil/2 2016-05-07T16:32:21 < dongs> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/((Schematic+Enhancements))_AD 2016-05-07T16:32:36 < dongs> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/((Changes+to+Default+Altium+Designer+Preferences))_AD ok thats the new defaults stuff 2016-05-07T16:32:39 < dongs> reading. 2016-05-07T16:33:31 < upgrdman> lol. some china vendor emailed me want to send me a sample for my to review on my youtube channel. 2016-05-07T16:33:44 < upgrdman> i asked for a $30 10DOF breakout board they have 2016-05-07T16:33:53 < dongs> cool 2016-05-07T16:34:00 < dongs> i got a couple emails like that 2016-05-07T16:34:01 < upgrdman> they're actually sending it. just got a tracking number 2016-05-07T16:34:03 < dongs> but was too lazy to reply 2016-05-07T16:34:22 < ReadError> what senzors? 2016-05-07T16:34:28 < upgrdman> mpu6050 + some 3axis magn + some barometer 2016-05-07T16:34:30 < upgrdman> lemme check 2016-05-07T16:34:35 < ReadError> hmc5883 2016-05-07T16:34:38 < ReadError> ms5611 ? 2016-05-07T16:35:06 < dongs> The Always Drag option is now enabled by default. 2016-05-07T16:35:07 < dongs> hmmm 2016-05-07T16:35:13 < Rob235> does it fuse the 10dof or just used to get raw values 2016-05-07T16:35:21 < Laurenceb_> interesting, malloc is failing to allocate 2016-05-07T16:35:35 < Laurenceb_> its returning NULL, any ideas whats wrong? 2016-05-07T16:35:37 < ReadError> Rob235 its just their phrasing for all the outputs 2016-05-07T16:35:49 < ReadError> or measurement axi 2016-05-07T16:35:51 < Rob235> well I guess the 6050 can fuse gyro/accel 2016-05-07T16:35:55 < upgrdman> MS5611 HMC5883L MPU6050 2016-05-07T16:36:03 < dongs> why hte fuck is that 30 2016-05-07T16:36:07 < dongs> they're on ebay for liek $10 2016-05-07T16:36:09 < upgrdman> because china 2016-05-07T16:36:12 < ReadError> ya i grabbed a bunch of like 8$ 2016-05-07T16:36:14 < upgrdman> well its free to me :) 2016-05-07T16:36:19 < ReadError> just to take apart for parts 2016-05-07T16:36:33 < Rob235> my first board was a mpu9255 (9 dof) with a bmp180 2016-05-07T16:36:46 < Rob235> so 10 dof with gyro/accel fusion 2016-05-07T16:38:10 < Rob235> $20 2016-05-07T16:38:25 < ReadError> 9250? 2016-05-07T16:38:36 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T16:38:36 < Rob235> its a mpu6500 with a mag 2016-05-07T16:38:38 < upgrdman> is the mpu6050 decent? 2016-05-07T16:38:48 < Rob235> AK something 2016-05-07T16:38:51 < upgrdman> i used some stm gyro/accel for my old robot it was "ok" 2016-05-07T16:39:00 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-07T16:39:02 < ReadError> but not seen a 55 one 2016-05-07T16:39:21 < ReadError> 9150, 9250, 6500, 6000, 6050 2016-05-07T16:39:28 < dongs> ^ cloner list 2016-05-07T16:39:41 < Rob235> the 5 at the end means it uses some special library or something 2016-05-07T16:39:48 < ReadError> upgrdman its i2c only 2016-05-07T16:40:10 < upgrdman> something wrong with i2c? 2016-05-07T16:40:16 < ReadError> *shrug* 2016-05-07T16:40:26 < ReadError> it will work fine 2016-05-07T16:40:32 < ReadError> 6000 does i2c/spi 2016-05-07T16:41:10 < dongs> whoaaaa 2016-05-07T16:41:25 < dongs> adding 3d dimensions to altidong makes it chug BAD 2016-05-07T16:42:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-07T16:43:00 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Tesoro-Mechanical-Tournament-Illuminated-TS-G2NFL-P/dp/B012N6H0V0/ 2016-05-07T16:43:03 < ReadError> pro altium tool there 2016-05-07T16:43:29 < Steffanx> $60 wut. 2016-05-07T16:43:53 < ReadError> *gaming* tax 2016-05-07T16:44:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T16:44:28 < dongs> gaming numeric keypad, lmao 2016-05-07T16:44:36 < dongs> what do you do with that 2016-05-07T16:44:39 < ReadError> ya, mechanical 2016-05-07T16:44:55 < ReadError> duno why a gamer would use it though 2016-05-07T16:45:14 < ReadError> dongs for the shitty keybindings in altium 2016-05-07T16:45:23 < dongs> you mean +/-? 2016-05-07T16:45:27 < dongs> bound those to mouse, done 2016-05-07T16:45:43 < dongs> those back/foward side buttons on mice that *nobody* uses 2016-05-07T16:45:47 < ReadError> idk it would be cool to have some other macros 2016-05-07T16:45:51 < dongs> naw. 2016-05-07T16:45:54 < ReadError> tga 2016-05-07T16:45:58 < ReadError> tgh 2016-05-07T16:46:17 < ReadError> or have shelve/enable on a modifier 2016-05-07T16:46:31 < dongs> then i'd have to remember i have it mapped osmewehre isntead of acutally typing tga 2016-05-07T16:46:34 < Laurenceb_> can anyone explain how malloc works when ram is full? 2016-05-07T16:46:34 < dongs> its not such a big deal. 2016-05-07T16:46:43 < dongs> it fails with a lunix error message 2016-05-07T16:46:46 < dongs> and returns NULL. 2016-05-07T16:46:46 < Laurenceb_> I'm getting NULL returned by malloc 2016-05-07T16:46:49 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-07T16:46:49 < dongs> yes 2016-05-07T16:46:55 < Laurenceb_> but ram isnt full 2016-05-07T16:46:57 < dongs> getlasterror() or wahtever 2016-05-07T16:47:07 < dongs> or errno or wahtever the fuck lunix dodes 2016-05-07T16:47:17 < Laurenceb_> I'll check my linker script 2016-05-07T16:47:21 < Laurenceb_> maybe its screwy 2016-05-07T16:48:36 < ReadError> FUCK FUCK FUCK 2016-05-07T16:48:38 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Tunable-Customizable-910-004074/dp/B00IRHE892/ 2016-05-07T16:48:42 < ReadError> discontinued 2016-05-07T16:48:51 < ReadError> why are all my mice getting discontinued 2016-05-07T16:49:35 < dongs> what the fuck why 2016-05-07T16:49:38 < dongs> just get mxanywhere2 2016-05-07T16:49:42 < dongs> if youre gonna drop 90bux on a mouse 2016-05-07T16:49:42 < Sync> do you wear through them quickly? 2016-05-07T16:49:49 < ReadError> hopefully thats false 2016-05-07T16:49:51 < dongs> that shit looks gay as fuck 2016-05-07T16:49:57 < ReadError> nah it feels great 2016-05-07T16:50:00 < Sync> my mice has been lasting for 10+ years 2016-05-07T16:50:06 < Sync> ~have 2016-05-07T16:50:19 < ReadError> cant use a mouse w/o freewheel scrolling 2016-05-07T16:50:25 -!- _av500_ [~av500@lgf.archos.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-07T16:50:37 < dongs> mx2 has it 2016-05-07T16:50:43 < Sync> freewheel scrolling sucks balls 2016-05-07T16:50:53 < dongs> you click the wheel to get free or notchy 2016-05-07T16:52:21 < Laurenceb_> something weird is going on 2016-05-07T16:52:22 < dongs> mx2anywhere 2016-05-07T16:52:31 < dongs> http://www.logitech.com/en-roeu/product/mx-anywhere2 2016-05-07T16:52:32 < Laurenceb_> sp 0x20004ba8 2016-05-07T16:52:46 < Laurenceb_> last ok malloc was data = 0x20003d40 2016-05-07T16:52:49 < dongs> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y09IWGQ 2016-05-07T16:52:53 < ReadError> its tiny ;( 2016-05-07T16:52:56 < dongs> its not 2016-05-07T16:53:05 < ReadError> looks smaller 2016-05-07T16:53:07 < dongs> its only time if youre a fat fuck 2016-05-07T16:53:52 < Laurenceb_> is there a max heap size variable anywhere? 2016-05-07T16:54:02 < ReadError> my hands arent fat, just big 2016-05-07T16:54:53 < dongs> Laurenceb_: of course 2016-05-07T16:54:57 < dongs> in your fucking linker file 2016-05-07T16:55:16 < dongs> is 2 separate entries in keil 2016-05-07T16:55:18 < dongs> or maybe in startup 2016-05-07T16:55:26 < dongs> anyway, you speceify heap/stack size 2016-05-07T16:56:23 < Laurenceb_> hmm I dont see it 2016-05-07T16:56:32 < Laurenceb_> there is some compile time stack minimum 2016-05-07T16:57:00 < dongs> Heap_Size EQU 0x00000200 2016-05-07T16:57:04 < dongs> sorry, it is in startup 2016-05-07T16:57:06 < dongs> for keil at least. 2016-05-07T16:57:25 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/lib/TNT/STM32F10x_COMMON.ld 2016-05-07T16:57:29 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-05-07T16:58:32 < dongs> raisonance linker... 2016-05-07T16:58:34 < Laurenceb_> well I dont see it 2016-05-07T16:58:35 < dongs> holy fuck such aids 2016-05-07T16:58:36 < Laurenceb_> screw this 2016-05-07T16:58:39 < BrainDamage> btw could you pick a less moronic project name? it sounds like something out of my little pony 2016-05-07T16:58:49 < dongs> http://developers.stf12.net/cpp-demo/gcc-linker-script-and-stm32-a-tutorial 2016-05-07T16:58:50 < Laurenceb_> its meant to 2016-05-07T16:58:55 < Laurenceb_> thats the joke 2016-05-07T16:59:08 < dongs> _Min_Heap_Size = 0; /.* required amount of heap .*/ 2016-05-07T16:59:16 < dongs> if you use stm32 sample .ld files 2016-05-07T16:59:21 < dongs> there will be stuff liek that 2016-05-07T16:59:29 < dongs> why are you using that ancient raisonance trash 2016-05-07T16:59:42 < Laurenceb_> well screw this I'm going to try 2016 launchpad gcc 2016-05-07T16:59:51 < Laurenceb_> it works when compiled on my other machine 2016-05-07T16:59:52 < dongs> it has nothign to do with gcc 2016-05-07T16:59:56 < dongs> o i c 2016-05-07T16:59:58 < dongs> k then dont know/care 2016-05-07T17:00:00 < Laurenceb_> yup lol 2016-05-07T17:00:01 < dongs> you should just use keil 2016-05-07T17:00:32 < dongs> this is how you solve your problem in keil: 2016-05-07T17:00:35 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/6vW3A7v.png 2016-05-07T17:03:19 < Laurenceb_> I need to get this ready for demonstration on Wednesday or I don't get paid for next part of project :-/ 2016-05-07T17:03:30 < Laurenceb_> never going to be ready at this rate 2016-05-07T17:03:31 < dongs> you can pay me to port it to keil 2016-05-07T17:03:34 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-07T17:03:40 < dongs> then it will definitely work 2016-05-07T17:03:57 < Laurenceb_> it has to use gcc 2016-05-07T17:04:31 < Rob235> in C are enums passed by reference or value 2016-05-07T17:04:33 < dongs> then please use latest gcc startup/linker 2016-05-07T17:04:37 < dongs> from stdperiphlib 2016-05-07T17:04:47 < dongs> instead of some garbage from old buggy commercial compilers 2016-05-07T17:06:11 < dongs> _Min_Heap_Size = 0; /* required amount of heap */ 2016-05-07T17:06:11 < dongs> _Min_Stack_Size = 0x100; /* required amount of stack */ 2016-05-07T17:06:16 < dongs> i see this in latest stdperiph linker. 2016-05-07T17:06:20 < dongs> so that should solve your shit immediately. 2016-05-07T17:17:27 < Laurenceb_> well that shaved 30k off the size 2016-05-07T17:17:28 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-07T17:17:31 < Laurenceb_> see if ti runs 2016-05-07T17:17:38 < dongs> what did, new compiler? 2016-05-07T17:19:51 < Steffanx> people did not have that great results with gcc 5.0 Laurenceb_ .. 2016-05-07T17:20:09 < Laurenceb_> no new linker script and stuff 2016-05-07T17:20:18 < Laurenceb_> lul its missing all interrupt handlers 2016-05-07T17:20:53 < Laurenceb_> well that worked well 2016-05-07T17:21:08 < Steffanx> You're doing it wrong. 2016-05-07T17:22:05 -!- DanteA [~DanteA@host-38-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T17:22:21 < Steffanx> how does dongs do libraries in altium? New lib for every part or do you group them somehow? 2016-05-07T17:22:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.41.50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-07T17:22:36 < Steffanx> How the pros do it/ 2016-05-07T17:23:01 < dongs> Steffanx: i have my own lib that has most stuff, i also do per-project specific libs if its strange customer-specific parts that i won't use again 2016-05-07T17:25:22 < dongs> i should probably setup vault but much like zyp, i'm way too lazy 2016-05-07T17:26:06 < Sync> Laurenceb_: where did you get that cancer project template 2016-05-07T17:26:09 < dongs> plus after using "vault" in circuitmaker im not so sure i wanna anyway. 2016-05-07T17:26:23 < dongs> sometimes I copy parts from altidong live thing, but like.. they have so much garbage attached 2016-05-07T17:26:31 < Steffanx> you did cm? 2016-05-07T17:26:35 < dongs> metadata/crap etc its easier to just ctrla/ctrlc the actual footprint/symbol and paste it 2016-05-07T17:26:47 < dongs> instead of using altidong footprint cuz its ful lof aids 2016-05-07T17:30:23 < dongs> Steffanx: i installed it for the lulz 2016-05-07T17:30:29 < dongs> noticed none of altidong keyboard shortcuts worked 2016-05-07T17:30:30 < dongs> wtf'd 2016-05-07T17:30:32 < dongs> and gave up 2016-05-07T17:33:38 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-07T17:34:51 < Rob235> finish my code for me 2016-05-07T17:35:21 < dongs> cool. baofengs charged fully 2016-05-07T17:35:35 < dongs> they charge at 400mA<, pretty good actually 2016-05-07T17:36:01 < dongs> i wonder if there would be a dickstarter opportunity for superchargerpro with oled screen that shows charge current per port 2016-05-07T17:36:21 < dongs> like those inline shits that display voltage/current 2016-05-07T17:36:25 < dongs> but wiht many ports 2016-05-07T17:39:49 < Rob235> my drone but specifically the ws2812 animation library I'm writing for it 2016-05-07T17:40:56 < Rob235> I like em 2016-05-07T17:43:31 < Shavik> So I'm using STM32Cube to generate my HAL files for my Nucleo F030R8. I'm trying to use SPI and I noticed my HAL_SPI_Transmit function was never returning. I stepped into it and it seems that when it tries to call __HAL_LOCK(hspi); it calls my Default_Handler. That implies I'm missing an interrupt handler but what interrupt would be fired for that? 2016-05-07T17:45:09 < dongs> no, its probably calling memfault 2016-05-07T17:45:13 < dongs> cuz hspi is a null pointer. 2016-05-07T17:53:53 < Shavik> negative 2016-05-07T17:54:01 < Shavik> Just broke right before it and hspi1 is a valid pointer 2016-05-07T17:54:11 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/3W78FHJz Am I handling lines 13 and 15 right? AnimationOptions (ao) is an enumerated type 2016-05-07T17:54:21 < Steffanx> What are you stm32ing crt? 2016-05-07T17:57:44 < Steffanx> Why on earth would a manufacturer tell you the size of a package should have a width of 1.98mm. Was it too hard to round it to 2mm? 2016-05-07T17:57:58 < Steffanx> *package = pad 2016-05-07T17:58:22 < Steffanx> oh you are in the dmx business 2016-05-07T18:03:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Can't seem to find why it's calling my Default_Handler 2016-05-07T18:38:52 < Shavik> Anyway to see the cause? 2016-05-07T18:39:00 < dongs> Shavik: yes, backtrace? 2016-05-07T18:39:06 < dongs> or step? 2016-05-07T18:39:09 < dongs> like.. obvious things 2016-05-07T18:39:24 < Shavik> Well I know which line is called right before it, but its __HAL_LOCK 2016-05-07T18:39:41 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/R8XUmFZV 2016-05-07T18:40:05 < dongs> __HEAP_SIZE 2016-05-07T18:40:08 < dongs> you have that defined in linker? 2016-05-07T18:40:12 < Laurenceb_> nope 2016-05-07T18:40:18 < Laurenceb_> so its set to zero.. wtf 2016-05-07T18:40:25 < Laurenceb_> some malloc works ok 2016-05-07T18:41:14 < dongs> http://reboots.g-cipher.net/pcbspam.txt ................................. 2016-05-07T18:42:39 < Laurenceb_> wtf did I just read 2016-05-07T18:49:50 < Laurenceb_> nope just as broken as ever 2016-05-07T18:50:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T18:50:13 < Laurenceb_> last successful malloc at 0x20003d70 2016-05-07T18:51:09 < dongs> why d o you need so mch malloc 2016-05-07T18:51:13 < dongs> just allocate a static array 2016-05-07T18:51:14 < Shavik> Ok. So I enabled the DEBUG_DEFAULT_INTERRUPT_HANDLERS define and now VisualGDB is show that it's hitting the HardFault Handler. Guess I don't have that one heh 2016-05-07T18:51:17 < dongs> what the fuck are you even doing 2016-05-07T18:51:22 < dongs> Shavik: yeah asi said 2016-05-07T18:51:34 < dongs> its hardfault cuz something is null 2016-05-07T18:51:48 < Shavik> But it clearly isnt 2016-05-07T18:51:52 < Shavik> :/ 2016-05-07T18:51:58 < dongs> step into __HAL_LOCK then? 2016-05-07T18:51:59 < dongs> geez 2016-05-07T18:52:16 < Shavik> I did. It's essentially a single line of code that checks a value then sets it 2016-05-07T18:52:23 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/lib/ARM-GCC/mem.ld 2016-05-07T18:52:52 < ReadError> dongs uhhh 2016-05-07T18:52:55 < Laurenceb_> how does malloc know when to stop? 2016-05-07T18:53:00 < ReadError> is there a pic 2016-05-07T18:53:03 < ReadError> of the submarine 2016-05-07T18:53:44 < dongs> Laurenceb_: so make your heap 16k 2016-05-07T18:53:48 < dongs> comeon why so dum 2016-05-07T18:53:56 < dongs> also again WHY do you need to malloc 2016-05-07T18:54:01 < dongs> just fucking use static buffers 2016-05-07T18:54:02 < Laurenceb_> yeah but its failing after like a few k 2016-05-07T18:54:13 < Laurenceb_> the buffer size depends on config variables and shit 2016-05-07T18:54:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T18:54:30 < dongs> make your own allocator 2016-05-07T18:54:38 < dongs> make a maxsize static array 2016-05-07T18:55:37 < Laurenceb_> hmm I guess 2016-05-07T18:55:46 < Laurenceb_> seems silly, malloc should work 2016-05-07T18:56:12 < Laurenceb_> it works with 2016 GCC ARM Embedded 2016-05-07T18:56:22 < dongs> why are you stil ont using that then 2016-05-07T18:56:23 < Laurenceb_> shit I'll just download the whole bazillion GB 2016-05-07T18:56:46 < dongs> its only like 40megs 2016-05-07T18:57:05 < Laurenceb_> hmm reading the launchpad forum thing it seems like they keep reading malloc 2016-05-07T18:57:10 < Laurenceb_> *breaking 2016-05-07T18:57:33 < Laurenceb_> probably explains my issues, at least I have neater linker scripts now 2016-05-07T19:01:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T19:02:07 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chz2Z_KWMAEiEiS.jpg:large attn Laurenceb_ 2016-05-07T19:02:46 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ spotted 2016-05-07T19:03:36 < Laurenceb_> luckily I'm several hundred miles away in my bunker preparing for the imminent trumpocalypse 2016-05-07T19:03:47 < Shavik> dongs, also, I can't step through HAL_LOCK as it's a macro 2016-05-07T19:04:04 < dongs> Shavik: im gonna guess then youre trashing the stack 2016-05-07T19:04:27 < Shavik> This is all STM library code 2016-05-07T19:04:28 < Shavik> not me 2016-05-07T19:05:09 < Shavik> Good chance I'm using it wrong but the call to HAL_LOCK is inside the stm32f0xx_hal_spi.c file 2016-05-07T19:09:50 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-07T19:11:02 < Shavik> I'm not blaming their code. I'm just not seeing how a call to a simple macro that checks the state of a lock flag "thrashes" the stack or is a null pointer :( 2016-05-07T19:11:11 < Shavik> I'm very new to ARM and STM32. Coming from an 8 bit AVR background 2016-05-07T19:11:15 < Shavik> So I appreciate the help 2016-05-07T19:12:55 < dongs> Did you know? In the award winning fantasy novel The Holy Bible, the character Joseph's coat of many colors is mentioned as being colored orange-white, orange, green-white, blue, blue-white, green, then brown-white and brown. Even though it was written thousands of years before the development of ethernet cable! Spooky! 2016-05-07T19:13:58 < Steffanx> that too crt 2016-05-07T19:14:30 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T19:16:07 < Laurenceb_> dongs only believes in the old testament 2016-05-07T19:16:32 -!- DanteA_ [~DanteA@host-127-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T19:17:14 < upgrdman> the scary part was under the mask. lol https://gfycat.com/ImaginaryShockedCicada 2016-05-07T19:17:27 < dongs> so fucking old 2016-05-07T19:18:10 < Steffanx> why altidongs is so crappy? Like when i use the foot print wizard it often and change the number of pads, it does not refresh the text fields, it just writes 6/8/10 on the same spot 2016-05-07T19:18:20 < Steffanx> also the direction arrow does not refresh properly. 2016-05-07T19:18:30 < Steffanx> -it often. 2016-05-07T19:18:32 < dongs> er wut 2016-05-07T19:18:37 < dongs> whats 6/8/10 2016-05-07T19:19:01 < Steffanx> let me screenshot 2016-05-07T19:19:03 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-07T19:19:04 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-07T19:19:09 < dongs> you should cuz it makes no sense 2016-05-07T19:19:30 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T19:19:39 < Steffanx> i meant, when you set the number of pins, it updates the number, but does not redraw the entire field 2016-05-07T19:19:53 < Steffanx> so when you change from 6, to 8 to 10, it draws those numbers on the same spot. 2016-05-07T19:20:06 < Steffanx> which makes it unreadable 2016-05-07T19:20:11 < dongs> sounds like macos problem 2016-05-07T19:20:14 -!- DanteA [~DanteA@host-38-152-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-07T19:20:15 < dongs> ive *never* seen that hapen 2016-05-07T19:20:34 < Steffanx> since when altidongs runs on os x? 2016-05-07T19:20:43 < dongs> dunno wahtever shitty windows emulator youre using 2016-05-07T19:20:49 < Steffanx> pro vmware. 2016-05-07T19:21:12 < Steffanx> i could boot the same os i run in the vm to see what happens there, but too lazy 2016-05-07T19:21:38 < dongs> i cant imagine this happeng for anything otehrn tah shitty gpudrivers reasons 2016-05-07T19:21:53 < dongs> cuz this kidna stuff is handled by standard windows controls (textbox etc) 2016-05-07T19:22:01 < dongs> you'd have to actually try hard to fuck it up 2016-05-07T19:22:05 < Steffanx> it only happens in altidongs. 2016-05-07T19:22:11 < dongs> like enable customdraw on it and do some weird shit 2016-05-07T19:22:11 < Steffanx> and only in the wizard. 2016-05-07T19:22:15 < lorenzo> Steffanx: what's the host OS? 2016-05-07T19:22:23 < Steffanx> os x 2016-05-07T19:22:25 < lorenzo> Altium doesn't like Linux + vmware/virtualbox 2016-05-07T19:22:33 < lorenzo> like, it doesn't do any sort of 3D at all, just hangs 2016-05-07T19:22:34 < dongs> apparently or osx 2016-05-07T19:22:37 < Steffanx> Who likes virtualbox :P 2016-05-07T19:22:41 < dongs> ok bedtime 2016-05-07T19:22:43 < dongs> too stoned 2016-05-07T19:22:48 < dongs> and screenshot isnt coming 2016-05-07T19:22:52 < Steffanx> no it is not. 2016-05-07T19:23:02 < dongs> will fap over the new draftsman stuff 2016-05-07T19:23:02 < Steffanx> not yet 2016-05-07T19:23:13 < dongs> customers will be happy with 2d renderings 2016-05-07T19:23:29 < Steffanx> Soon they will know how pro you are. 2016-05-07T19:23:39 < dongs> they already do 2016-05-07T19:23:44 < dongs> k bed 2016-05-07T19:24:47 < Steffanx> Does altidongs even do direct x or something? 2016-05-07T19:26:35 < Shavik> ok well I'm a moron clearly. Accepted that a long time ago. If I call HAL_SPI_Transmit from main, it works perfectly. However if I call it from my include file (which I still checked the values via debugger) it throws a hard fault 2016-05-07T19:26:36 < Shavik> Interesting 2016-05-07T19:26:48 < lorenzo> Steffanx: yes 2016-05-07T19:29:13 < Steffanx> anyway: http://imgur.com/2QcEzqd that. 2016-05-07T19:30:17 < Steffanx> Yes wonderful. 2016-05-07T19:30:24 < Steffanx> Still awake mr crt? 2016-05-07T19:30:55 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1462635109196.png 2016-05-07T19:31:39 < dongs> Steffanx: oh, that bug. yeah. its been there. shruggin'. that IS their fuckup. 2016-05-07T19:31:45 < dongs> i thought you meant into a textbox. 2016-05-07T19:31:52 < dongs> really gone now 2016-05-07T19:31:58 < Steffanx> hah. 2016-05-07T19:33:57 < Steffanx> someone digitalized some vhs? 2016-05-07T19:44:00 < upgrdman> wow, their grocery store knows how to do fresh http://imgur.com/bton7hO 2016-05-07T19:44:08 < upgrdman> s/their/this 2016-05-07T19:45:04 < Steffanx> ok... 2016-05-07T19:48:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T19:49:07 < Steffanx> dont you like a good steak? 2016-05-07T19:49:10 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM3IyedugoY 2016-05-07T19:49:20 < Laurenceb_> need origonal :-/ 2016-05-07T19:49:55 < Steffanx> you need to get your job done before wednesday. 2016-05-07T19:51:19 < Steffanx> ( just giving you a small reminder ) 2016-05-07T19:54:33 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-07T19:55:01 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T19:58:18 < ReadError> so any jtag pros? 2016-05-07T20:02:34 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T20:08:02 < PaulFertser> ReadError: lolwhat? 2016-05-07T20:08:33 < ReadError> just wondering the capabilities of it if a chip has read protection enabled 2016-05-07T20:09:39 < PaulFertser> ReadError: on stm32/ 2016-05-07T20:09:43 < ReadError> yessir 2016-05-07T20:09:57 < ReadError> either jtag or swd 2016-05-07T20:10:06 < ReadError> with a jlink 2016-05-07T20:10:30 < PaulFertser> ReadError: jtag boundary scan works. Mass erase works. I do not think anything else work. 2016-05-07T20:11:09 < Rob235> cough cough 2016-05-07T20:11:22 < PaulFertser> What's on your mind? 2016-05-07T20:11:37 < Rob235> nothing, can't stop coughing 2016-05-07T20:11:51 < Rob235> and I'm procrastinating 2016-05-07T20:11:56 < ReadError> PaulFertser was just wondering if there was something useful, like viewing changes in flash 2016-05-07T20:12:03 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T20:12:07 < ReadError> but the whole readprotection thing.. 2016-05-07T20:12:18 < ReadError> wasnt sure how far that extended 2016-05-07T20:14:10 < jpa-> AN3429 should tell 2016-05-07T20:14:42 < jpa-> hmm that one is a stub 2016-05-07T20:14:55 < jpa-> can't find the proper one 2016-05-07T20:15:05 < jpa-> so i guess it won't tell after all :D 2016-05-07T20:19:39 < ReadError> ok on a deeper level kinda thing 2016-05-07T20:19:45 < ReadError> suppose I have a dfu 2016-05-07T20:20:30 < ReadError> could that be manipulated so a debugger can be attached and the stm32 monitored? 2016-05-07T20:20:35 < jpa-> then with the average dfu, you can upload a small image and recover everything except the first sector of flash 2016-05-07T20:21:18 < jpa-> with a particularly silly DFU, you can even just overwrite the reset vector and put your code in last sector 2016-05-07T20:21:27 < ReadError> yea thats what I was thinking 2016-05-07T20:21:35 < Steffanx> http://blog.includesecurity.com/2015/11/NordicSemi-ARM-SoC-Firmware-dumping-technique.html you want to do that ReadError? 2016-05-07T20:21:35 < ReadError> changing the start vector and doing some witchcraft 2016-05-07T20:21:55 < jpa-> but because you can typically write only 0's, it might not be easy, especially not knowing the original value 2016-05-07T20:22:33 < BrainDamage> found Laurenceb testing his ecg project: https://i.imgur.com/Jh6Idnq.jpg 2016-05-07T20:22:37 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T20:22:53 < jpa-> ReadError: but if you have dfu, wouldn't you have firmware images anyway? 2016-05-07T20:23:06 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T20:23:08 < jpa-> if it is protected, it probably has write protect etc. on 2016-05-07T20:23:23 < ReadError> sorta 2016-05-07T20:23:47 < mra90> is there any STM which can work on Ghz freq ? 2016-05-07T20:23:49 < ReadError> but a change is made in the firmware to make things work 2016-05-07T20:24:21 < Steffanx> so read it out and after the change again? 2016-05-07T20:24:25 < ReadError> so I was trying to find out which address is manipulated 2016-05-07T20:24:25 < BrainDamage> you want something else if you want a beefy cpu for number crunching 2016-05-07T20:24:39 < ReadError> Steffanx ya but if read protection is on i cant ;p 2016-05-07T20:24:55 < Steffanx> Read that link i posted? 2016-05-07T20:25:07 < jpa-> mra90: nope 2016-05-07T20:25:36 < jpa-> BrainDamage: there are so many levels of beefy 2016-05-07T20:25:40 < ReadError> can the protection bits be modified within the code? 2016-05-07T20:25:46 < ReadError> I need to read more into how all this works 2016-05-07T20:26:02 < jpa-> what are you cloning? 2016-05-07T20:26:15 < ReadError> im just learning stuff for science 2016-05-07T20:26:34 < ReadError> not for-profit cloning 2016-05-07T20:26:45 < ReadError> which contrary to what dongs might say, I have never done 2016-05-07T20:27:38 < jpa-> yeah, didn't expect you to make profit ;) 2016-05-07T20:28:06 < ReadError> jpa- by posting files on github? 2016-05-07T20:28:08 < ReadError> hardly 2016-05-07T20:32:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-07T20:34:07 < Laurenceb_> arm-none-eabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory 2016-05-07T20:34:14 < Laurenceb_> anyone got any clue whats wrong? 2016-05-07T20:37:42 < jpa-> your path 2016-05-07T20:38:33 < jpa-> other than that, you can strace for details 2016-05-07T20:39:34 < emeb_mac> choose your path wisely 2016-05-07T20:41:23 < Steffanx> Are you a wise grey old man emeb_mac? 2016-05-07T20:42:00 < emeb_mac> gray, yes. wise, probably not. 2016-05-07T20:43:38 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-07T20:44:37 < emeb_mac> but then I've been gray since my 20s, so that doesn't mean much 2016-05-07T20:51:58 < Laurenceb_> ah freaking finally 2016-05-07T20:52:13 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016 launchpad gcc actually has working malloc 2016-05-07T20:53:52 < upgrdman> in chrome is there a hot key equiv for right-click > copy link address? 2016-05-07T20:54:10 < Rob235> what is the opposite of sample rate 2016-05-07T20:54:18 < upgrdman> sample freq? 2016-05-07T20:54:43 < Rob235> does sample imply reading a value? 2016-05-07T20:54:51 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-07T20:54:56 < Rob235> whats rate of writing a value 2016-05-07T20:55:06 < Rob235> refresh rate is ugly 2016-05-07T20:55:08 < upgrdman> output rate? 2016-05-07T20:55:11 < Laurenceb_> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Abu_Hajaar 2016-05-07T20:55:18 < upgrdman> or transfer rate to be ambiguous 2016-05-07T20:55:34 < Rob235> I think I like refresh better than output, it's for led animation 2016-05-07T20:56:15 < Steffanx> refresh rate is not ugly when it comes to update something like that imho. 2016-05-07T20:56:25 < Rob235> yea I changed my mind after I said that 2016-05-07T20:56:29 < Steffanx> hah. 2016-05-07T20:56:34 < Rob235> I like refresh now 2016-05-07T20:56:37 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-07T20:58:16 < upgrdman> opened google drive on an old vm.... "now syncing 1 of 34000 files" 2016-05-07T20:58:33 < upgrdman> taxing my poor little 60Mbps connection :/ 2016-05-07T20:59:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:02:04 < Steffanx> Better get faster internet 2016-05-07T21:02:46 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-05-07T21:02:51 < upgrdman> good thing i didnt try this in cn 2016-05-07T21:12:27 < Rob235> where do you live upgrdman 2016-05-07T21:13:23 < upgrdman> california 2016-05-07T21:13:33 < upgrdman> but sometimes i work in shanghai china 2016-05-07T21:13:46 < Rob235> 60 upload? that sounds fairly high to me, I'm not sure what mine is but my download is actually 80 MBit so I'm guessing rated at 100. My upload is probably around yours 2016-05-07T21:13:54 < upgrdman> 60down 4up 2016-05-07T21:14:15 < upgrdman> syncing was copying new shit to old vm... downloading 2016-05-07T21:14:34 < Rob235> do up/down differ that much? I always though it was around half 2016-05-07T21:14:40 < Rob235> ahh 2016-05-07T21:14:53 < Rob235> I'm gonna do a speed test 2016-05-07T21:14:54 < upgrdman> in the usa? ya. residential shit is always slow as fuck uplink 2016-05-07T21:15:15 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:15:23 < upgrdman> surprisingly enough, in shanghai the up/down seemed symmetrical 2016-05-07T21:15:42 < upgrdman> but im guessing they also block people from setting up home servers 2016-05-07T21:15:55 < upgrdman> so maybe theyre not worried about uplink usage 2016-05-07T21:16:05 < Steffanx> Rob235, here it's 150/15. Difference much. 2016-05-07T21:16:47 < Steffanx> i get the idea only in the fibre would you get 1/1 2016-05-07T21:16:48 < Rob235> just got: 87.1/5.9 2016-05-07T21:17:09 < upgrdman> Rob235, where are you 2016-05-07T21:17:12 < Rob235> nj 2016-05-07T21:17:13 < upgrdman> and how much you pay 2016-05-07T21:17:17 < Rob235> shitty comcast 2016-05-07T21:17:20 < upgrdman> and how much you pay 2016-05-07T21:17:27 < Rob235> I'm not sure, my gf pays that bill 2016-05-07T21:17:31 < Steffanx> lol 2016-05-07T21:17:34 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-07T21:17:37 < Rob235> I pay cellphones :) 2016-05-07T21:18:01 < Rob235> oh its on the board, looks like $141 for the triple play 2016-05-07T21:18:08 < upgrdman> that reminds me, on my phone i sometimes get like 6 up. maybe i should tether to my phone when upload youtube videos lol 2016-05-07T21:18:30 < upgrdman> oh. i just have internet service. $60 for my 60/4 2016-05-07T21:18:53 < Rob235> I would be fine with just internet but she wanted tv and it was cheaper to get all 3 2016-05-07T21:19:21 < upgrdman> sounds like a valid reason to dump your girlfriend 2016-05-07T21:19:24 < upgrdman> j/k 2016-05-07T21:19:26 < Rob235> haha 2016-05-07T21:20:41 < Rob235> if this animation library works first time I'll be so happy. I can't test it until monday and I've been making changes for like a week 2016-05-07T21:21:24 < upgrdman> drawing a bouncing penis on some SPI LCD? 2016-05-07T21:21:41 < Rob235> ws2812 led strips 2016-05-07T21:21:49 < Rob235> drone arms 2016-05-07T21:22:20 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-07T21:23:23 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:24:30 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-07T21:24:54 < Steffanx> 141 per month that is Rob235? 2016-05-07T21:25:07 < Rob235> yea 2016-05-07T21:25:16 < Steffanx> pff 2016-05-07T21:25:19 < Rob235> i know 2016-05-07T21:25:29 < Steffanx> at least something that is more expensive in yankeeland then it is in dutchland 2016-05-07T21:26:37 < upgrdman> what are taxes like in dutchland 2016-05-07T21:26:39 < upgrdman> for middle class 2016-05-07T21:26:43 < Steffanx> it's like $70, for 150/15, tv and phoning. 2016-05-07T21:27:15 < Steffanx> what taxes? We have so many different kind of taxes. 2016-05-07T21:27:16 < upgrdman> over here is like 33% income tax... but after you account for property tax, gas tax, license fees, etc... i think i pay like 45% tax 2016-05-07T21:27:39 < upgrdman> Steffanx, like total fraction of your money that goes to the gov when everything is said and done 2016-05-07T21:27:42 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:27:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-07T21:29:24 < Steffanx> Middle-class income tax is like 40%, and that's even before all the other taxes 2016-05-07T21:29:41 < upgrdman> that sux 2016-05-07T21:29:42 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-07T21:29:43 < englishman> need a lot of tax to pay for GEMA enforcement 2016-05-07T21:30:01 < upgrdman> dutchland != deutchland 2016-05-07T21:30:08 < Steffanx> nope. 2016-05-07T21:30:33 < Steffanx> You also dont want to know what the gas prices are here 2016-05-07T21:31:14 < upgrdman> hehe. 2016-05-07T21:31:21 < Steffanx> $1.81/liter 2016-05-07T21:31:32 < upgrdman> so thats like $7/gal? 2016-05-07T21:31:40 < upgrdman> err 6 2016-05-07T21:31:58 < upgrdman> but ya, i think its like $2.30/gal here, and that much higher than the national average 2016-05-07T21:31:58 -!- DanteA_ [~DanteA@host-127-159-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-07T21:32:02 -!- DanteA [~DanteA@akawolf.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:32:25 < upgrdman> so like $0.60/liter 2016-05-07T21:32:38 < Steffanx> So better stay in the US 2016-05-07T21:32:55 < upgrdman> i dont drive very much 2016-05-07T21:33:00 < Steffanx> unless that one guy gets mr president 2016-05-07T21:33:09 < upgrdman> i use maybe 30 gallons / month 2016-05-07T21:33:24 < upgrdman> well i guess for europeans that'd be a lot? 2016-05-07T21:33:51 < upgrdman> but ya, for the benefit i get, i dont really care if gas is like $8/gallon 2016-05-07T21:34:00 < upgrdman> i love my climate controlled car 2016-05-07T21:34:11 < upgrdman> a little home i can take wherever i go 2016-05-07T21:34:44 < Lux> that's like 1000 miles ? 2016-05-07T21:35:40 < Steffanx> learn to metric. 2016-05-07T21:35:56 < upgrdman> Lux, roughly ya 2016-05-07T21:36:15 < Steffanx> Even with your house on wheels? 2016-05-07T21:36:32 < upgrdman> its a little home. not a fucking house, lol 2016-05-07T21:36:34 < upgrdman> it's a car 2016-05-07T21:36:41 < upgrdman> not some van or SUV or whatever 2016-05-07T21:36:59 < upgrdman> but after living in .cn and taking public transit... holy shit i love my car so much 2016-05-07T21:36:59 < Steffanx> So what is it? 2016-05-07T21:37:29 < upgrdman> 2005 toyota celica 2016-05-07T21:37:49 < upgrdman> i picked it when i was a kid. :) no, im not a racer wannabe 2016-05-07T21:38:05 < Steffanx> :D 2016-05-07T21:38:30 < Lux> i guess that's about average in europe, maybe a bit more 2016-05-07T21:40:15 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:41:45 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:46:21 < englishman> oh steffaner is not deuschland 2016-05-07T21:46:23 < englishman> nvm 2016-05-07T21:46:30 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-07T21:47:55 < Steffanx> nein meinherr englishman 2016-05-07T21:48:18 < englishman> wooden shoes, not leather pants 2016-05-07T21:48:18 < englishman> got it 2016-05-07T21:48:57 < Steffanx> Yeah, i walk on those daily. (not) 2016-05-07T21:50:14 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:55:20 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T21:55:22 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T21:55:55 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:01:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-07T22:03:07 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:03:07 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-07T22:03:07 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:05:52 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-07T22:12:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-07T22:13:18 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:13:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:18:56 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T22:19:25 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:21:23 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:21:23 -!- pid [pidpawel@vesper.pidpaw.eu] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-07T22:21:23 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:28:33 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-07T22:28:38 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1462641700318.jpg 2016-05-07T22:29:21 < Steffanx> http://imgur.com/gallery/Fkbfa5O i liked that one :D 2016-05-07T22:29:24 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T22:31:44 < Laurenceb_> Wait, he is just Bernie without glasses? 2016-05-07T22:32:06 < Laurenceb_> have we ever seen all 3 of them in the same place... 2016-05-07T22:35:09 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-07T22:56:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-07T23:07:20 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-07T23:07:55 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-07T23:30:56 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/gallery/EjvH6K5 2016-05-07T23:42:36 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-07T23:48:31 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: launchpad gcc with gcc4.7 2016-05-07T23:50:01 < Laurenceb_> from arm lul 2016-05-07T23:50:25 < Laurenceb_> https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded 2016-05-07T23:50:26 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-07T23:52:13 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-07T23:53:13 < Laurenceb_> erm malloc 2016-05-07T23:54:29 < Laurenceb_> gcc 4.7 iirc 2016-05-07T23:54:36 < Laurenceb_> an older launchpad 2016-05-07T23:55:55 < Laurenceb_> it was probably an issue with their malloc implementation 2016-05-07T23:56:14 < Laurenceb_> it worked but started returning NULL when there was about 10k of ram still free 2016-05-07T23:57:17 < Laurenceb_> ah ok 2016-05-07T23:57:54 < Laurenceb_> well it works correctly with latest version, only returns NULL when the ram is all used 2016-05-07T23:58:19 < Laurenceb_> by allocating 256 bytes at a time in a loop until it returned NULL 2016-05-07T23:58:34 < Laurenceb_> it was approx 10k away from being out of ram 2016-05-07T23:59:28 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-07T23:59:51 < Laurenceb_> well something has changed with _sbrk --- Day changed Sun May 08 2016 2016-05-08T00:00:08 < Laurenceb_> I had to add -specs=nosys.specs 2016-05-08T00:00:24 < Laurenceb_> or I got undefined reference to _sbrk after upgrading 2016-05-08T00:00:26 < Laurenceb_> nope 2016-05-08T00:01:05 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-05-08T00:01:16 < Laurenceb_> well my project as it was is on github 2016-05-08T00:01:20 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T00:01:26 < ReadError> fire it up 2016-05-08T00:01:33 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/makefile 2016-05-08T00:01:45 < Laurenceb_> line 91 2016-05-08T00:02:18 < Laurenceb_> I've cleaned up all the crud now and switched to neater linker scripts, but that didnt make any difference to malloc behaviour 2016-05-08T00:02:28 < Rob235> how is it 5pm already 2016-05-08T00:02:38 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@130.180.217.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T00:02:43 < Yoduza> 1. digikey.com 2. mouser.com 3. ??? 2016-05-08T00:03:00 < Laurenceb_> farnell 2016-05-08T00:03:13 < Laurenceb_> ur mum 2016-05-08T00:03:49 * Yoduza noticed farnell.com 2016-05-08T00:07:46 < Laurenceb_> how odd 2016-05-08T00:09:27 < Steffanx> not even using newlib nano? 2016-05-08T00:09:47 < Laurenceb_> dunno lol 2016-05-08T00:09:57 < Steffanx> i guess not. 2016-05-08T00:10:12 < Laurenceb_> I'm using this now https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/tree/master/lib/ARM-GCC 2016-05-08T00:10:17 < Laurenceb_> a lot cleaner 2016-05-08T00:16:12 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4286e.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T00:17:13 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T00:17:28 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d40d9d.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-08T00:33:01 < Rob235> If I have an array of structs in C that contains 4 ints each, can I access it like a 2d array by doing: int** new_array_pointer = (int **)struct_array; ? 2016-05-08T00:33:06 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-08T00:33:25 < Laurenceb_> heh yeah mercurial needs deleting :P 2016-05-08T00:34:48 < Laurenceb_> heh I don't see to have nano 2016-05-08T00:37:16 < Laurenceb_> oh I needed to add .specs :P 2016-05-08T00:37:22 < Laurenceb_> yeah shaves a few k off 2016-05-08T00:44:32 -!- zhanx [~thatguy@h184-61-92-3.hermnny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T00:48:28 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-05-08T00:48:39 < Laurenceb_> heh I'll update 2016-05-08T00:49:43 < Laurenceb_> ok done 2016-05-08T00:52:45 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10828614 2016-05-08T00:53:28 < Laurenceb_> looks ok to me and runs ok 2016-05-08T00:56:17 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-08T00:57:24 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T00:59:25 < Rob235> two more warnings to get rid of 2016-05-08T01:00:06 < Laurenceb_> yeah that doesnt look right 2016-05-08T01:00:20 < Laurenceb_> I can't find where head_end is defined 2016-05-08T01:04:02 < Laurenceb_> you meant line 651? 2016-05-08T01:04:09 < Laurenceb_> yeah highlight is being weird for me lol 2016-05-08T01:05:49 < zyp> it's in .bss, of course it will be 0 initially 2016-05-08T01:06:36 < zyp> everything past line 210 is 2016-05-08T01:06:58 < zyp> well, until line 687 2016-05-08T01:07:37 < zyp> which? 2016-05-08T01:19:38 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-08T01:19:55 < Laurenceb_> thanks for the help 2016-05-08T01:21:39 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T01:22:56 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: what happend to trumph? 2016-05-08T01:23:33 < Laurenceb_> /b/ tired of him 2016-05-08T01:23:44 < Laurenceb_> they want him to come back and shitpost some more 2016-05-08T01:26:45 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-08T01:27:56 < Rob235> in C, if I have a static const float array[6][3] can I cast it with (float **)? 2016-05-08T01:28:30 < Rob235> oh damn 2016-05-08T01:29:56 < Rob235> well I have a function that right now takes a float** and what's being passed to it is the static const float array[6][3], so if I access the float** in the function with bracket notation will it be correct? 2016-05-08T01:34:27 < Rob235> oh duh, I get it now :) 2016-05-08T01:39:18 < Yoduza> how can i connect SDRAM DDR to stm32f4 ? 2016-05-08T01:39:52 < Laurenceb_> with difficulty 2016-05-08T01:40:51 < zyp> f42x or higher 2016-05-08T01:40:59 < zyp> f40x only supports SRAM 2016-05-08T01:41:10 < Laurenceb_> 42x supports DDR? 2016-05-08T01:41:16 < zyp> oh 2016-05-08T01:41:17 < zyp> no 2016-05-08T01:41:23 < zyp> I read SDR, sorry 2016-05-08T01:43:16 < Rob235> ohsix: what if I know the size of the array, inside the function can I cast it with (float[6][3])? 2016-05-08T01:43:26 < Rob235> or anyone 2016-05-08T01:43:58 < Yoduza> need to know timing for do it. MCU's have no any timings description as a TYPE. So it is not posible. Need to know FPGA, 2016-05-08T01:45:56 < Yoduza> best way to use SDRAM DDR in MCU's - via Cyclone4 fpga etc.. 2016-05-08T01:46:02 < Rob235> I was just wondering if it would work, to be able to pass 2d arrays of variable size and based on one parameter determine which of 3 sizes it is and cast it to that. Seems easy to me if it works 2016-05-08T01:53:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T01:53:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T02:00:41 < Laurenceb_> hmm maybe it errored at end of first page 2016-05-08T02:01:30 < Laurenceb_> yes looks like it did 2016-05-08T02:02:14 < Laurenceb_> well - one of my tests passed 4k by 224 bytes, but the next request failed returning NULL 2016-05-08T02:12:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T02:14:31 < Laurenceb_> I meant the end of the request did 2016-05-08T02:14:49 < Laurenceb_> so top of heap was 32 bytes below the 4k boundary 2016-05-08T02:15:01 < Laurenceb_> then I requested 256bytes and it worked 2016-05-08T02:15:05 < Laurenceb_> next request failed 2016-05-08T02:19:07 < Laurenceb_> yeah shrug it worked with 2016q1 2016-05-08T02:19:10 < Laurenceb_> *works 2016-05-08T02:20:03 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T02:20:18 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T02:20:38 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T02:36:25 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4353f.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T02:38:35 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4286e.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-08T02:49:28 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T02:52:39 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-08T03:08:28 < Laurenceb_> https://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9078369&cid=52067521 2016-05-08T03:08:42 < Laurenceb_> successful troll 2016-05-08T03:08:50 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T03:09:35 < Laurenceb_> uh no https://mobile.twitter.com/timothylord/status/715960545271132160 2016-05-08T03:10:06 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T03:13:12 < Rob235> this vaping tank is perfect 2016-05-08T03:18:33 < Rob235> ugh last warning: uint8_t colors[][4] = (uint8_t[][4])ws2812_colors; ws2812_colors is a struct of 4 uint8_t's. How can I access the struct as a 2d array? 2016-05-08T03:19:05 < Rob235> theres no way? 2016-05-08T03:19:11 < Rob235> that will work? 2016-05-08T03:19:29 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T03:20:01 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T03:21:54 < Rob235> hmm I gotta figure out how I want to do this then 2016-05-08T03:23:44 < Rob235> oh I guess my brain was just stuck on that idea, much better way found 2016-05-08T03:37:11 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T03:38:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-08T03:40:28 < Rob235_> sweeeeet the only warnings I get on compile are unused variables 2016-05-08T03:41:16 < Rob235_> now that the library is completely set up, it's time to work on the actual animations 2016-05-08T03:52:31 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-08T04:04:49 < Rob235_> wow, 505 lines for this animation library without even having animations 2016-05-08T04:15:55 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-08T04:19:05 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@130.180.217.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T04:30:34 < dongs> autism chats are on 2016-05-08T04:31:08 < Rob235_> I have Samsung, Sony, and LG 18650 batteries 2016-05-08T04:31:42 < dongs> 24kWh of lipo batts are on the truck on the way to me 2016-05-08T04:32:01 < dongs> autism for now 2016-05-08T04:32:06 < dongs> like 3 packs will go into my fourwheeler 2016-05-08T04:32:10 < dongs> after that donno 2016-05-08T04:33:21 < dongs> actaulyl im not sure. maybe more than 3. i need to check if this trashbike is 24V or 48V 2016-05-08T04:33:50 < Rob235_> shit 2016-05-08T04:34:15 < Rob235_> I hate finding holes in my code 2016-05-08T04:34:38 < Rob235_> heh 2016-05-08T04:35:43 < dongs> http://www.eco-aesc-lb.com/en/product/liion_ev/ looks like these are the japs making the modules 2016-05-08T04:35:48 < dongs> http://www.eco-aesc-lb.com/en/product/liion_ev/img/img_index02.png 2016-05-08T04:37:08 < dongs> you're not far off 2016-05-08T04:37:45 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4102e.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T04:37:53 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4353f.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T04:37:56 < Rob235_> oh I'm an idiot, there is no hole in my code, or would I have been an idiot if there was a hole? 2016-05-08T04:37:57 < dongs> k so 48 2S2P modules for entier thing, so 48*2*4.2V = ~400V DC 2016-05-08T04:37:58 < Rob235_> either? 2016-05-08T04:38:01 < dongs> neat 2016-05-08T04:38:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-08T04:42:05 < dongs> k its 60V 2016-05-08T04:42:21 < dongs> so i'll need 7, 35mm height each 2016-05-08T04:42:28 < dongs> 24cm stack 2016-05-08T04:42:30 < dongs> should fit 2016-05-08T04:47:15 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-08T04:47:25 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T04:47:46 < Shavik> Any thoughts as to why I can call HAL_SPI_Transmit from my main.c file but if I call it from any other function, the internal __HAL_LOCK throws a hard fault? 2016-05-08T04:47:59 < dongs> youre trashing stack somewehre 2016-05-08T04:48:20 < Shavik> I am not using any IRQ's other than just the systick which was autogenerated by STMCube 2016-05-08T04:48:43 < Shavik> dongs, would having that HAL_SPI_Transmit inside a function cause that to happen? 2016-05-08T04:48:52 < Shavik> Pardon my ignorance. :/ 2016-05-08T04:49:03 < dongs> no, trashing stack can have whatever effects in unrelated parts of code. 2016-05-08T04:49:22 < Shavik> I've never "trashed" a stack before, at least not knowingly 2016-05-08T04:49:28 < Shavik> so not sure what "causes" that 2016-05-08T04:49:33 < dongs> you susually dont do it knowingly 2016-05-08T04:49:37 < Shavik> :P 2016-05-08T04:49:46 < dongs> you haev a stack-allocated buffer of 10 bytes and you write 20 to it 2016-05-08T04:49:54 < dongs> thats usually how it happens 2016-05-08T04:50:40 < Shavik> http://pastebin.com/JFqqJKkA 2016-05-08T04:50:55 -!- aep [~aep@libqxt/developer/aep] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T04:51:01 < Shavik> That __HAL_LOCK is the last thing called before the hard fault 2016-05-08T04:51:26 < Shavik> I guess what I'm trying to understand/learn is how a "trashed" stack would cause a hard fault at that point, and say not the line above 2016-05-08T04:52:39 < dongs> you need to review your entire program 2016-05-08T04:53:53 < Shavik> http://pastebin.com/1g5i5bvD This is from the included STM Libs that call __HAL_LOCK. And this http://pastebin.com/JE7EZJpE Is my "wrapper" function which causes a hard fault 2016-05-08T04:54:19 < dongs> status = HAL_SPI_Transmit(&hspi1, (uint8_t*)&data, 1, 0x1000); 2016-05-08T04:54:21 < dongs> ....................... 2016-05-08T04:54:22 < dongs> do you even C? 2016-05-08T04:54:39 < dongs> like, tehres like a million things wrong with just that one line 2016-05-08T04:54:57 < Shavik> :( 2016-05-08T04:55:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T04:55:11 < dongs> why are you passing &hspi to HAL_SPI_Transmit if it already takes a SPI_Handle*? 2016-05-08T04:55:19 < Shavik> oh god 2016-05-08T04:55:29 -!- aep [~aep@libqxt/developer/aep] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T04:55:32 < Shavik> thats because i can't read apparently 2016-05-08T04:55:32 < dongs> and passint buffer address to a function argument? 2016-05-08T04:55:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T04:55:36 < dongs> pretty damn sure that doesnt work either 2016-05-08T04:55:55 < Shavik> Wasn't a buffer but a single byte 2016-05-08T04:56:08 < Shavik> Hence the SendSPI8 2016-05-08T04:56:11 < Shavik> 8 bit send 2016-05-08T04:56:26 < dongs> doesnt matter, how do you think its gonna get an address of a variable thats most likely in a register? 2016-05-08T04:56:40 < Shavik> Also this wasn't final code that I was ready to upload to an open source project but merely I was playing with various things trying to get them to work 2016-05-08T04:57:06 < Shavik> Sorry I don't work for ULA 2016-05-08T04:57:20 < Shavik> ARM is currently a hobby not my job 2016-05-08T04:57:37 < Shavik> So I'm quite noob here. I'll shut up now. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes 2016-05-08T04:57:45 < Shavik> Not sure it requires the ridicule though 2016-05-08T04:59:06 < Shavik> But dongs, I am appreciative of you catching that. 2016-05-08T04:59:46 < Shavik> I'd rather be wrong and look stupid but figure something out than just trusting everything works and never asking questions 2016-05-08T04:59:49 < dongs> Shavik: what languages do you know 2016-05-08T04:59:55 < dongs> because this is basic C stuff here 2016-05-08T05:00:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-08T05:00:14 < dongs> http://www.ime.usp.br/~pf/Kernighan-Ritchie/C-Programming-Ebook.pdf print this out and *read* it 2016-05-08T05:00:14 < Shavik> Well the passing the address of a pointer was a dumb mistake 2016-05-08T05:01:09 < Shavik> Yea I program embedded C and C++ for my day job 2016-05-08T05:01:16 < dongs> I'm sorry to hear that 2016-05-08T05:01:18 < Shavik> ok 2016-05-08T05:01:43 < Shavik> Glad you don't have to work with me 2016-05-08T05:04:30 < Shavik> I agree 2016-05-08T05:04:32 < Shavik> I've read it :P 2016-05-08T05:04:44 < Shavik> back in my computer science days 2016-05-08T05:05:03 < Shavik> Neither can I 2016-05-08T05:05:06 < Shavik> obviously 2016-05-08T05:05:23 < dongs> also, both of t hose mistakes are picked up by ocmpiler 2016-05-08T05:05:35 < dongs> do you even compile wiht -Wall or wahtever equivalent in your compiler? 2016-05-08T05:05:52 < dongs> your shit should build wiht zero warnings before you start asking for "why xxx doesnt work" 2016-05-08T05:05:58 < Shavik> correct 2016-05-08T05:06:01 < Shavik> warnings were muted 2016-05-08T05:06:03 < Shavik> It's right there 2016-05-08T05:06:06 * Shavik goes back to lurking 2016-05-08T05:06:20 < Shavik> I LITERALLY MADE MY FIRST STM32 ARM PROJECT WITH THIS WHOLE IDE LAST NIGHT lol 2016-05-08T05:06:24 < Shavik> Sorry folks 2016-05-08T05:06:38 < dongs> waht embedded processors are you writing code for then 2016-05-08T05:06:40 < dongs> some lunix trash? 2016-05-08T05:06:42 < Shavik> I have repented for my sins 2016-05-08T05:06:44 < Shavik> Negative 2016-05-08T05:06:45 < Shavik> Close 2016-05-08T05:06:46 < dongs> (at work) 2016-05-08T05:06:48 < Shavik> 8 bit avr's 2016-05-08T05:06:54 < lorenzo> in b4 windows ce 2016-05-08T05:06:54 < Shavik> probably worse 2016-05-08T05:06:57 < Shavik> god no 2016-05-08T05:07:03 < dongs> windows CE is great. 2016-05-08T05:07:09 < Shavik> 32kb flash micros 2016-05-08T05:07:15 < Shavik> So this is a big step up 2016-05-08T05:07:32 < Shavik> 8 bit AVR is like setup 2-3 registers and you're up and running 2016-05-08T05:08:04 < Shavik> Currently, I've tried to ignore it 2016-05-08T05:08:25 < Shavik> Trying to prioritize. Can't learn everything at once. I'm using a Nucleo F0 2016-05-08T05:08:55 < Shavik> Was doing manual setup of IO then got flogged by someone last night and told me to use STMCube to generate that so I've since moved to that 2016-05-08T05:08:56 < lorenzo> should get free keil with that 2016-05-08T05:08:59 < lorenzo> well free as in paid by st 2016-05-08T05:09:08 < Shavik> I've using VisualGDB 2016-05-08T05:09:11 < Shavik> in VS2015 2016-05-08T05:09:22 < lorenzo> f0/l0 iirc 2016-05-08T05:09:29 < dongs> yes M0/M0+ keil is free 2016-05-08T05:09:34 < dongs> and no code size limit e ither 2016-05-08T05:09:42 < Shavik> I really enjoy VisualGDB 2016-05-08T05:09:48 < dongs> Shavik: is it worth the $ 2016-05-08T05:09:56 < Shavik> I have a lot of experience using VS with Atmel Studio 2016-05-08T05:10:02 < Shavik> dongs, well if you don't mute the warnings 2016-05-08T05:10:04 < Shavik> lol 2016-05-08T05:10:09 < dongs> crt: http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk 2016-05-08T05:10:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T05:10:13 < Shavik> Well I think that was default behavior tbh 2016-05-08T05:10:18 < dongs> crt: product serial number: U1E21-CM9GY-L3G4L 2016-05-08T05:10:18 < Shavik> But it's one click to fix 2016-05-08T05:10:57 < Shavik> I REALLY like the visual studio 2015 dark theme. heh 2016-05-08T05:11:13 < dongs> first thing I do after installing vs2015 was turn off the retarded hipster darktheme 2016-05-08T05:11:19 < lorenzo> crt: no one reads the license 2016-05-08T05:11:22 < lorenzo> so no one knows sorry 2016-05-08T05:11:33 < Shavik> My eye's bleed with white backgrounds 2016-05-08T05:11:39 < Shavik> Luckily it's a setting ;) 2016-05-08T05:11:43 < dongs> MDK for STM32F0 and STM32L0 provides software developers working with STM32 devices with a free-to-use professional tool suite. 2016-05-08T05:11:52 < dongs> crt, no special case for what "free use" 2016-05-08T05:12:08 < Shavik> Also dongs, there is a 30 day trial of VisualGDB to try 2016-05-08T05:12:17 < dongs> ya i know 2016-05-08T05:15:44 < englishman> careful, if you link to stdperiphlib, the license only allows use on ST processors 2016-05-08T05:15:51 < englishman> therefore its NotFree/OpenSource 2016-05-08T05:16:15 < dongs> why would anyone want to use stdperiphlib on anything other than ST 2016-05-08T05:16:24 < englishman> doesnt matter the purpose 2016-05-08T05:16:25 < englishman> you cant 2016-05-08T05:16:26 < dongs> "hey this insane API looks so nice, let's port it to arduino" 2016-05-08T05:16:30 < englishman> so its NotFre/OpenSource 2016-05-08T05:16:40 < englishman> basically hitler 2016-05-08T05:16:49 < lorenzo> heil 2016-05-08T05:17:01 < lorenzo> shit, 4.16 am already 2016-05-08T05:18:04 < Shavik> np ohsix. Though to be honest. It's like looking back to me first semester of CSCI and going omg I don't understand a for loop and that was 10 years ago this year heh 2016-05-08T05:18:12 < Shavik> Like how was it even possible I didn't comprehend that 2016-05-08T05:18:44 < Shavik> It's fine. feeling like an idiot is preferable, it means I'm around people smarter than myself which is the best place to be 2016-05-08T05:18:59 < lorenzo> ##stm32 is a nice comfy place 2016-05-08T05:19:03 < lorenzo> try ##c for some hardcore stuff 2016-05-08T05:19:26 < Shavik> the avr topic has "ENCOURAGE PEOPLE OR WE WILL SQUASH YOU, REALLY!" lol 2016-05-08T05:19:51 < Shavik> But thing is, no one ever talks there so it doesn't even really matter 2016-05-08T05:20:31 < dongs> http://www.masters.com.pl/en,news,st-stm32f0-stm32l0-keil 2016-05-08T05:20:37 < dongs> crt: you even get *technical support* on the free license 2016-05-08T05:20:39 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-08T05:21:08 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121.200.15.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-08T05:22:05 < Shavik> Just figured it's an initial hazing. I WAS trying to learn Atmel SAM chips and the people of #hackvana were like oh poor child 2016-05-08T05:22:05 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T05:22:15 < Shavik> Then told me to go buy the nucleo etc 2016-05-08T05:22:26 < englishman> you do avr for a living? 2016-05-08T05:22:28 < englishman> cool 2016-05-08T05:22:30 < Shavik> Yea 2016-05-08T05:22:46 < Shavik> I grabbed an F0 and M4 yea 2016-05-08T05:23:00 < Shavik> Yea I design the circuit/pcb layout then make all the FW 2016-05-08T05:23:11 < dongs> The free Keil MDK-ARM environment for STM32 aids the transition from legacy 8-bit architectures to Cortex 32-bit development by supporting the STM32F0 and STM32L0 series featuring Cortex-M0 and M0+ without any restrictions. 2016-05-08T05:23:43 < englishman> dongs, in STVD how do i access the memory map when debugging 2016-05-08T05:24:12 < dongs> englishman: you mean memory view? 2016-05-08T05:24:19 < englishman> yes 2016-05-08T05:24:22 < dongs> i think thre's a window for it 2016-05-08T05:24:26 < englishman> if theres a peripheral map even better 2016-05-08T05:24:32 < englishman> i saw something but it was greyed out 2016-05-08T05:24:34 < dongs> nah i dont think theres periph map 2016-05-08T05:24:42 < dongs> you need to be stopped to show it once i think 2016-05-08T05:24:49 < englishman> yes was stopped 2016-05-08T05:24:50 < dongs> after you have it, it'll update at runtime 2016-05-08T05:24:55 < englishman> hrmrm 2016-05-08T05:25:57 < englishman> Shavik: if you're doing circuit, pcb, and programming, in 2016, why avr? 2016-05-08T05:26:04 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T05:26:19 < englishman> i mean im not arguing just curious 2016-05-08T05:26:36 < Shavik> englishman 2016-05-08T05:26:43 < Shavik> Why do you think I'm trying to learn STM32? :) 2016-05-08T05:27:01 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T05:27:06 < Shavik> long ago when they first came out, I got this little known board called an Arduino ;) 2016-05-08T05:27:21 < Shavik> Then I moved to bare metal AVR (this was all before I did this for a living) 2016-05-08T05:27:38 < Shavik> So it was more of a natural progression and now I've seen the light and am just trying to catch up 2016-05-08T05:27:54 < lorenzo> ohsix: half of hackaday projects could be redesigned with a solid ne555 core 2016-05-08T05:28:15 < englishman> do you work for sparkfun? 2016-05-08T05:28:30 < englishman> or like a real company 2016-05-08T05:28:39 < dongs> sparkfun is s uper real 2016-05-08T05:30:44 < Shavik> englishman. I work for a real company 2016-05-08T05:31:16 < Shavik> products are UL (don't wanna say which number but medical) approved and we have FDA 510K 2016-05-08T05:31:33 < Shavik> So we can say "well it passed UL?": 2016-05-08T05:31:44 < Shavik> lol somewhat of an internal joke 2016-05-08T05:31:52 < englishman> yeah so realstuff not sparkfun level 2016-05-08T05:32:08 < Shavik> I suppose so yea. 2016-05-08T05:32:33 < Shavik> I guess if you meter by, A) Does it have to work? B) Would it be nice if it worked? My stuff usually falls into the A category lol 2016-05-08T05:33:33 < dongs> just like tesla using PIC16 in their shit 2016-05-08T05:33:47 < Shavik> We use some PIC16 on our legacy stuff from before me 2016-05-08T05:34:00 < Shavik> Our Chilean HW guy was doing solely PIC 2016-05-08T05:36:07 < lorenzo> I wonder if there's still the PIC vs AVR vs rest of the sane people war 2016-05-08T05:36:15 < Shavik> oh yeah 2016-05-08T05:36:17 < lorenzo> like, 10 years ago people were fighting for real for their 8 bit family 2016-05-08T05:36:27 < Shavik> I can say that I still do AVR a lot and AVR Freaks is still alive and kicking 2016-05-08T05:36:28 < lorenzo> like, blog posts and shit!! 2016-05-08T05:36:44 < Shavik> and with Microchip just buying Atmel it's like the end of the world 2016-05-08T05:36:55 < englishman> pic vs avr sounds like gentoo vs. archlunix, race to the bottom 2016-05-08T05:37:09 < Shavik> Seriously though. Coming here and talking to you guys, is like the one japanese soldier that found out like 20 years later that WW2 ended 2016-05-08T05:37:19 < lorenzo> haha yeah atmel homepage has now microchip logo 2016-05-08T05:37:20 < Shavik> I'm like holy shit. No one cared for the last 10 years 2016-05-08T05:37:24 < lorenzo> someone must feel butthurt 2016-05-08T05:37:26 < Shavik> yea I'm telling you 2016-05-08T05:37:32 < Shavik> that was the straw that broke my back 2016-05-08T05:37:46 < Shavik> I was like well microchip owns atmel now. fuckthisshit.jpg 2016-05-08T05:37:51 < Shavik> Whats up STM! 2016-05-08T05:37:52 < Shavik> lol 2016-05-08T05:37:53 < dongs> lorenzo: lol, nice 2016-05-08T05:38:04 < dongs> http://www.atmel.com/simply-avr/default.aspx 2016-05-08T05:38:05 < dongs> why 2016-05-08T05:38:51 < lorenzo> "small, but mighty" -> no hardware i2c, spi, uart, one interrupt, forces you to bitbang shit like in early 8051 days 2016-05-08T05:40:50 < lorenzo> http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atmel-45178-Small-But-Mighty-The-Tiny-Microcontrollers-that-Shall-Prevail_Article.pdf 2016-05-08T05:41:08 < lorenzo> these are the new ones I guess 2016-05-08T05:41:11 < dongs> thanks for signing up 2016-05-08T05:41:16 < dongs> i clicked that but it wanted my info 2016-05-08T05:41:37 < dongs> does attiny even come in wlcsp 2016-05-08T05:41:39 < lorenzo> you're welcome :p 2016-05-08T05:41:48 < dongs> their pictures show retarded SOP8 2016-05-08T05:41:50 < lorenzo> yes there's wlcsp 2016-05-08T05:42:57 < dongs> These small devices include a 10-bit successive approximation ADC that delivers up to 15k samples per 2016-05-08T05:43:01 < dongs> second. 2016-05-08T05:43:02 < dongs> fucking lol in 2016 2016-05-08T05:43:05 < dongs> 15ksps 2016-05-08T05:43:13 < dongs> atmel should just close shop 2016-05-08T05:43:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T05:47:39 < dongs> even shitty stm8 is like 280ksps 2016-05-08T05:50:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-08T05:51:55 < Lux> is wlcsp even feasible for low cost designs ? 2016-05-08T05:52:10 < Lux> seems like a major pita in assembly 2016-05-08T05:52:15 < dongs> rageberry has like 2 wlcsp parts 2016-05-08T05:52:16 < dongs> so yes 2016-05-08T05:52:22 < dongs> in volume it doenst matter 2016-05-08T05:52:34 < englishman> if you mount upside down and goldwire by hand, very low cost 2016-05-08T05:52:50 < Lux> but that's probably at > 100k volume or so 2016-05-08T05:53:01 < dongs> you didnt specify 2016-05-08T05:53:36 < Lux> right 2016-05-08T05:53:54 < Lux> would be nice to know at what figures those things actually pay off 2016-05-08T05:54:06 < Lux> like 1k or 10k or 100k 2016-05-08T05:54:46 < dongs> just to give an idea at my pcb place 10 prototype 4L boards and a full FR4 sheet cost about same 2016-05-08T05:55:32 < dongs> so 10 vs like 100-200 boards 2016-05-08T05:55:47 < dongs> (depending on size of course) 2016-05-08T05:56:07 < dongs> so anything beyond prototype the price can only go lower 2016-05-08T05:57:41 < Lux> yeah, makes sense 2016-05-08T06:04:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T06:05:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:b48d:4e08:89c3:61b0] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T06:07:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-08T06:21:16 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T06:21:42 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T06:22:04 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T06:25:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T06:33:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T06:42:09 < PeterM> fuck how did ohdicks get off my fucking ignore list 2016-05-08T06:43:54 < PeterM> ohsix, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now on. 2016-05-08T06:57:30 < emeb_mac> livin' the life at an outback sheep station? 2016-05-08T06:57:40 < dongs> i thought sheepfucking was NZ 2016-05-08T07:01:00 < dongs> farm is a perfect coverup for massive weed field 2016-05-08T07:07:02 < PeterM> farm is fine, raining at the moment, so not "working" today- but had a cunt of a breakdown yesterday, so i spent thismorning putting a hydraulics system back together 2016-05-08T07:07:34 < PeterM> tomorrow should be back to rakin in the moneys though 2016-05-08T07:08:03 < PeterM> nothing 2016-05-08T07:08:09 < PeterM> foxit is a peice of shit 2016-05-08T07:08:19 < PeterM> if oyu have chrome and all you're doing is reading datasheets 2016-05-08T07:08:25 < PeterM> use it as your default pdf viewer 2016-05-08T07:10:13 < Chris_M> PDF-XChange Editor: http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor 2016-05-08T07:29:23 < dongs> acrobat is amazing 2016-05-08T07:29:27 < dongs> pdfxchange is trash 2016-05-08T07:29:31 < dongs> ohsix uses that 2016-05-08T07:29:56 < dongs> acrobat IX or X or whatever the fuck its on now is like the best piece of software on my PC 2016-05-08T07:30:00 < dongs> after altium 2016-05-08T07:30:04 < dongs> XI 2016-05-08T07:30:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T07:37:20 < dongs> its 13:37 2016-05-08T07:40:22 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-08T07:40:26 < dongs> srsly the best reader 2016-05-08T07:40:35 < dongs> not even trolling 2016-05-08T07:41:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-08T07:41:39 < dongs> i've *never* had acrobat crash 2016-05-08T07:41:40 < dongs> wat 2016-05-08T07:41:42 < dongs> why would it even 2016-05-08T07:43:57 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T07:48:24 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T08:00:51 < dongs> 15-20V 5V DC/DC, go 2016-05-08T08:00:57 < dongs> err 15-20A 2016-05-08T08:01:27 < dongs> from 16-19V (laptop 60-90W power supply) 2016-05-08T08:13:32 < jadew> ffs, this is the worst kind of issue, I have a solid state switch that turn on when I put the microscope probe on the control input :/ 2016-05-08T08:13:51 < jadew> it's low impedance 2016-05-08T08:14:02 < jadew> (no pull up/down) 2016-05-08T08:15:12 < dongs> so you just answered your own question 2016-05-08T08:15:37 < dongs> if you want to be sure of a state something is in, add appropriate pull 2016-05-08T08:15:50 < jadew> dongs, it's always driven 2016-05-08T08:16:09 < dongs> obviously not if it changes state when you probe it 2016-05-08T08:16:10 < jadew> the problem is that when it goes from high to low, it doesn't switch 2016-05-08T08:16:17 < jadew> then I put the probe on it and it switches 2016-05-08T08:16:30 < dongs> jadew: so the output is opendrain or some other trash and again you have no pullup 2016-05-08T08:16:53 < jadew> ohsix, it's push/pull 2016-05-08T08:17:02 < jadew> but maybe dongs is right 2016-05-08T08:17:10 < jadew> maybe the line is floating 2016-05-08T08:17:14 < jadew> let me put my finger on it 2016-05-08T08:18:13 < jadew> ok, it gets noisy 2016-05-08T08:18:38 < jadew> it means my code is shit 2016-05-08T08:19:49 < jadew> ah, I know what's wrong 2016-05-08T08:20:01 < dongs> bomb still on truck 2016-05-08T08:20:07 < dongs> i guess it wont be here until monday 2016-05-08T08:20:26 < jadew> I updated gcc and it refused to compile a piece of inline asm so I worked around it, I guess I didn't work around it well enough 2016-05-08T08:20:31 < jadew> what bomb? 2016-05-08T08:20:37 < dongs> 24kWh lipo pack 2016-05-08T08:20:59 < jadew> you ordered it? 2016-05-08T08:21:11 < dongs> that one i linked? yeah 2016-05-08T08:21:27 < jadew> I didn't catch the discussion, sorry 2016-05-08T08:21:59 < dongs> http://www.upjpn.jp/yahoo/car_photo/912212/6451/m0002.jpg 2016-05-08T08:22:53 < dongs> first 7 cells I'll take out of there will go into my electric fourwheeler 2016-05-08T08:22:59 < dongs> to replace 5 12V SLAs 2016-05-08T08:23:40 < jadew> how heavy is that thing? 2016-05-08T08:24:30 < dongs> one module is 3.8kg 2016-05-08T08:24:31 < dongs> there's 48 2016-05-08T08:24:35 < dongs> + case / junk 2016-05-08T08:29:06 < dongs> 12V50Ah SLA is 14.5kg 2016-05-08T08:29:10 < dongs> * 5 of them in there 2016-05-08T08:29:25 < dongs> 72kg of lead-acid vs 26kg of lipo 2016-05-08T08:41:43 < upgrdman> what does monitor do 2016-05-08T08:48:21 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-08T08:48:27 < dongs> wat monitor 2016-05-08T08:55:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T08:56:33 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T09:03:18 < dongs> sup 2016-05-08T09:04:15 < upgrdman> does win10 expose temp sensors or do i need an app for that 2016-05-08T09:04:21 < upgrdman> i dont see them in task manager :/ 2016-05-08T09:04:56 < dongs> temp sensors on what 2016-05-08T09:05:00 < upgrdman> cpu etc 2016-05-08T09:05:08 < dongs> dont think so, why wuld it 2016-05-08T09:05:16 < dongs> i just use coretemp 2016-05-08T09:05:19 < dongs> for the intel cpu sensor 2016-05-08T09:05:23 < upgrdman> ya ok 2016-05-08T09:05:28 < upgrdman> how do i read the intel one 2016-05-08T09:06:21 < upgrdman> this fucking bro4 is hot as shit when rendering videos. cpu is UNDERclocked now... running at 1.08GHz 2016-05-08T09:06:33 < dongs> like i said coretemp 2016-05-08T09:06:34 < upgrdman> kinda curious if core temp is like 105C ;) 2016-05-08T09:06:43 < dongs> http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ 2016-05-08T09:06:45 < upgrdman> dongs, is that a CLI app 2016-05-08T09:06:47 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-08T09:06:51 < dongs> nope just gui trash 2016-05-08T09:06:57 < dongs> i duno if it has cli, never looked 2016-05-08T09:07:42 < upgrdman> i know 2016-05-08T09:07:48 < upgrdman> esp on a tablet pc 2016-05-08T09:09:25 < upgrdman> 56C 2016-05-08T09:09:28 < upgrdman> kinda warm 2016-05-08T09:09:43 < upgrdman> also, wtf. tank manager is underreporting cpu usage 2016-05-08T09:09:55 < dongs> thats pretty cool actually 2016-05-08T09:10:05 < dongs> my gay7 was running at 100C while encoding 2016-05-08T09:10:07 < upgrdman> well not for a tablet 2016-05-08T09:10:21 < upgrdman> this shit has like copper foil for a heatsink ;) 2016-05-08T09:12:28 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/America-Greatest-Makers-Challenge-open/ 2016-05-08T09:12:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/embedded-MICROCONTROLLER/ 2016-05-08T09:12:54 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/embedded-microcontrollers/ 2016-05-08T09:13:09 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-board/ 2016-05-08T09:13:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/design-USB-hub-PCB/ 2016-05-08T09:13:34 < dongs> what why 2016-05-08T09:13:36 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.247] has quit [Quit: Streaker] 2016-05-08T09:16:09 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-08T09:16:43 < upgrdman> i know 2016-05-08T09:16:58 < dongs> it seems you're receiving stoner advice 2016-05-08T09:17:08 < dongs> if everyone puts ohsix on ignore maybe he'll leave 2016-05-08T09:17:12 < upgrdman> hehe i just plugged my usb fan into my cocking station and aimed it at the back of the bro4. cpu is now allowing itself like 1.8GHz 2016-05-08T09:19:16 < upgrdman> um up to 2.6GHz now 2016-05-08T09:19:32 < upgrdman> shit i should just glue some aluminum heatsink to the back of my bro4 2016-05-08T09:20:17 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-08T09:20:27 < upgrdman> updates speeds at like 1Hz 2016-05-08T09:21:30 < upgrdman> yay hit 3.18GHz and 75C for a few seconds 2016-05-08T09:23:09 < dongs> ru uploading a new jewtub howto 2016-05-08T09:23:13 < dongs> ARM TUTORIAL 2016-05-08T09:23:28 < upgrdman> ya. raspberry pi vpn server tutorial 2016-05-08T09:23:46 < dongs> lo 2016-05-08T09:23:50 < upgrdman> i should title it "how to access porn in .cn" 2016-05-08T09:24:48 < upgrdman> not likely 2016-05-08T09:24:55 < upgrdman> they dont fuck with foreigners. bad for business 2016-05-08T09:25:22 < upgrdman> so unless i start picketing in their streets over political shit, no one cares what my white ass does on my pc 2016-05-08T09:25:39 < dongs> try that in best korea 2016-05-08T09:25:51 < upgrdman> is kim super up tight? 2016-05-08T09:25:53 < upgrdman> ;) 2016-05-08T09:26:06 < dongs> yeah, there's a couple americans doing community service for hte next 7-8 years 2016-05-08T09:26:12 < dongs> for taking pictures of kim's statue or omeshit 2016-05-08T09:26:30 < upgrdman> nice 2016-05-08T09:27:05 < dongs> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/29/asia/north-korea-american-hard-labor/index.html 2016-05-08T09:27:36 < dongs> nah that one is not the one 2016-05-08T09:27:42 < dongs> there was some tourist or student or someshit 2016-05-08T09:28:50 < dongs> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/28/asia/north-korea-otto-warmbier/ 2016-05-08T09:28:51 < dongs> thats the one 2016-05-08T09:29:07 < dongs> trying to "steal a north korean banner from hotel walls" 2016-05-08T09:29:08 < dongs> lole 2016-05-08T09:31:37 < jpa-> "He may spend his day planting apple trees. It will be fairly grueling forced labor" 2016-05-08T09:33:06 < dongs> http://fox13now.com/2016/05/06/thousands-sign-petition-after-teacher-banned-from-lehi-high-school-for-saying-two-words/ 2016-05-08T09:33:09 < dongs> haha america 2016-05-08T09:36:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-08T09:47:16 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocgOnI5bx5Y wat 2016-05-08T09:58:52 < dongs> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Magazines/Rainbow,%20The%20-%20One-liners%20for%20the%20Color%20Computer/One-Liners%20for%20the%20Color%20Computer%20%28The%20Rainbow%29.pdf 2016-05-08T09:58:57 < dongs> lol 2016-05-08T10:03:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.108] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T10:12:27 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T10:13:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T10:22:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:b48d:4e08:89c3:61b0] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-08T10:31:15 -!- DanteA [~DanteA@akawolf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-08T10:36:39 < jadew> here's some good info to keep in mind, whenever you feel like grinding some metal, make sure you know what kind of alloy it is 2016-05-08T10:37:10 < jadew> looks like beryllium copper is used a lot on high quality stuff and that shit is super toxic 2016-05-08T10:37:19 < jadew> for example, in SMA connectors 2016-05-08T10:37:36 < jadew> same goes for ceramics 2016-05-08T10:38:28 < jadew> flyback, nice 2016-05-08T10:38:54 < jadew> looks a lot like alibaba 2016-05-08T10:39:00 < jadew> sorry, aliexpress 2016-05-08T10:39:03 < jadew> is it the same site? 2016-05-08T10:40:18 < jadew> is it safe to buy from there? 2016-05-08T10:40:53 < jadew> oh, look at that, they accept paypal 2016-05-08T10:42:04 < jadew> flyback: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5PCS-Mini-3A-DC-DC-Converter-Step-Down-Module-Adjustable-3V-5V-16V-Power-for-RC/2038550907.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.11.5fZswk&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10017_10034_10021_507_10022_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_1&btsid=879bdfb6-355c-461c-b81b-829632e6140b 2016-05-08T10:42:07 < jadew> found it cheaper 2016-05-08T10:46:12 < jadew> I added 5 to my cart 2016-05-08T10:46:55 < jadew> I wanted to make a couple myself, but I can't beat that price 2016-05-08T10:47:02 < jadew> I wonder how they perform tho 2016-05-08T10:47:32 < jadew> I'll order a couple and test them, but I doubt they're any good 2016-05-08T10:47:41 < jadew> well, they'll work, but they won't be great 2016-05-08T10:47:51 < jadew> probably shit filtering 2016-05-08T10:48:12 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T10:48:28 < jadew> good output caps cost almost as much as an entire module 2016-05-08T10:50:52 < jadew> night 2016-05-08T11:02:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T11:03:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T11:14:00 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-08T11:17:58 < ReadError> ohsix 2016-05-08T11:23:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T11:23:57 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T11:31:17 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T11:45:08 < rewolff1> I bought a bunch of them DCDC converters. Still in the mail. 2016-05-08T11:51:54 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T11:53:09 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T11:53:31 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-08T11:53:54 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T11:53:57 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-08T11:53:57 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T12:12:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-08T12:13:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T12:14:42 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T12:17:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-08T12:19:03 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-08T12:19:08 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-08T12:24:40 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T12:25:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T12:31:03 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-08T13:08:04 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T13:15:06 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/94i7vjr.jpg?1 2016-05-08T13:21:30 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tkbcrklpblbhtqvj] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T13:25:51 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtyF0jux2Q crt 2016-05-08T13:26:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-08T13:26:53 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-08T13:31:48 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-08T13:31:55 < Steffanx> no sky in aussieland crt? 2016-05-08T13:32:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.41.50] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T13:32:59 < Steffanx> Poor moon. Its not allowed to be there in aussieland 2016-05-08T13:33:20 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T13:35:47 < Steffanx> Aussieland can be too cold? 2016-05-08T13:38:07 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br3gljF6Hww 2016-05-08T13:38:49 < ReadError> did google change the colors? 2016-05-08T13:38:53 < ReadError> of its search results 2016-05-08T13:43:55 < dongs> PeterM: watched to the end, 10/10 2016-05-08T13:44:44 < Steffanx> dont see a change here mr ReadError 2016-05-08T13:45:10 < ReadError> it looks different... i cant put my finger on it 2016-05-08T13:45:49 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/FAk2Ody.png 2016-05-08T13:45:54 < ReadError> see the color of the links 2016-05-08T13:46:13 < Steffanx> You visited them all. 2016-05-08T13:47:04 < Steffanx> http://imgur.com/oqbWx9O 2016-05-08T13:48:00 < ReadError> i havent though lol 2016-05-08T13:49:22 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T13:49:22 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-08T13:49:22 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T13:49:39 < Steffanx> You changed into Laurenceb, crt. Don't do that. 2016-05-08T13:50:16 < Steffanx> i failed to remember what you did. 2016-05-08T13:51:18 < dongs> linked kirk-dewalt.jpg 2016-05-08T13:54:45 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T14:10:53 < qyx> whta is the best method to compress thumb2 binary files? 2016-05-08T14:12:07 < qyx> so far lzma seems to be the winner 2016-05-08T14:36:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T14:44:35 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-08T14:55:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T14:57:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T14:57:17 < Laurenceb_> dongs spotted https://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9078369&cid=52067543 2016-05-08T15:00:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-08T15:00:05 < Laurenceb_> cooking thats all 2016-05-08T15:20:54 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:395b:187c:7941:c106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T15:22:35 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T15:27:17 < mra90> hmm does any of you guys see in Cortex_M4_ref_manual info on how to set up clock properly ? 2016-05-08T15:30:34 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tkbcrklpblbhtqvj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-08T15:35:13 < Fleck> mra90: what's the problem? btw, cubemx can do that for you 2016-05-08T15:36:34 < mra90> I do know I want to set it up mzself , no drivers at all 2016-05-08T15:36:47 < mra90> I want to do core setup 2016-05-08T15:40:42 < mra90> crt: any idea ? 2016-05-08T15:41:41 < dongs> mra90: wat, why would cortex m4 manual have anything to do wiht STM32 clocks 2016-05-08T15:41:52 < jpa-> yeah, look into stm32f4 ref man 2016-05-08T15:42:01 < dongs> ST provides excel file that generates F4 clocks.c 2016-05-08T15:42:06 < dongs> or you can use cube and clean it up 2016-05-08T15:42:10 < dongs> well, excel output neesd cleanup too 2016-05-08T15:42:18 < dongs> eventually you can shrink it down to like ~10 lines of actual code 2016-05-08T15:42:51 < dongs> i' d say excel output is easier to read than what MX produces 2016-05-08T15:43:00 < dongs> since it just directly dicks registers 2016-05-08T15:43:00 < mra90> crt: thanks seems to be useful 2016-05-08T15:43:30 < dongs> crt, is that the excel? 2016-05-08T15:43:44 < dongs> it fucking needs ST login 2016-05-08T15:43:46 < dongs> to donwload 2016-05-08T15:43:47 < dongs> what the fucking fuck 2016-05-08T15:43:50 < dongs> scam'd 2016-05-08T15:43:53 < dongs> good thing I have old version 2016-05-08T15:44:20 < mra90> dongs: you don't have to log on to download these pdfs 2016-05-08T15:44:48 < dongs> pdfs? 2016-05-08T15:45:25 < dongs> the actual 'get software' should be a .xls 2016-05-08T15:45:52 < dongs> podfs just explain how to use it 2016-05-08T15:46:57 < mra90> hmm I need something what tells me how to write setup code; clock confoguration, clock signal for I/O, interrupt config etc 2016-05-08T15:47:06 < dongs> reference manual. 2016-05-08T15:47:16 < dongs> or just look at stdperiph templates. 2016-05-08T15:50:02 < mra90> dongs: I don't see any info about clock configuartion there ;/ 2016-05-08T15:50:21 < dongs> ???????????????? 2016-05-08T15:50:27 < dongs> there = rm0090? 2016-05-08T15:50:37 < dongs> of course its fucking there, the whole RCC chapter 2016-05-08T15:51:02 < dongs> page 150+ 2016-05-08T15:51:12 < dongs> Figure 16, clock tree 2016-05-08T15:51:15 < dongs> etc. 2016-05-08T15:52:54 < mra90> hmm I use RM0390 since mine is F466 2016-05-08T15:53:03 < dongs> same shit 2016-05-08T15:53:05 < dongs> its still F4 2016-05-08T15:53:35 < mra90> if so why they list just few MCUs on the first page ;) ? 2016-05-08T15:53:43 < dongs> ? 2016-05-08T15:53:46 < mra90> ends with "..STM32F429/439 advanced ARM®-based 32-bit MCUs" 2016-05-08T15:54:00 < mra90> there is no STM32F44x ... 2016-05-08T15:54:01 < dongs> yeah so what, RCC peripheral is almost (if not completley) identical across all F4 models 2016-05-08T15:54:23 < dongs> the only differences probably different PLL scalers 2016-05-08T15:54:24 < mra90> ok but I guess there must be correct manual for F44x right ? 2016-05-08T15:54:37 < dongs> since F40x can to go 168Mhz and the others ones can go higher/lower 2016-05-08T15:55:07 < dongs> F466 doesn't sound like a valid chip name 2016-05-08T15:55:49 < mra90> STM32F446 now better ? It looks like this is correct reference for it http://ds.arm.com/media/resources/db/chip/st/stm32f446/DM00135183.pdf 2016-05-08T15:56:09 < dongs> thats more like it 2016-05-08T15:56:28 < dongs> RM0390: STM32F446xx advanced ARM®-based 32-bit MCUs2.015,800 KB 2016-05-08T15:56:43 < dongs> no that link is aids 2016-05-08T15:56:51 < dongs> http://www.st-japan.co.jp/st-web-ui/static/active/en/resource/technical/document/reference_manual/DM00135183.pdf 2016-05-08T15:56:58 < dongs> correct latest version on ST site. 2016-05-08T15:57:06 < dongs> not possibly old junk @ arm.com cache 2016-05-08T15:57:18 < dongs> haha 2016-05-08T15:57:44 < mra90> " no that link is aids" WhAt ? :P 2016-05-08T15:58:06 < dongs> mra90: its not from st.com, so could be old version or something 2016-05-08T15:58:16 < dongs> shrug 2016-05-08T15:58:29 * mra90 is lost between references ... 2016-05-08T15:58:48 < mra90> ok makes sense 2016-05-08T15:59:01 < mra90> so far I see it's the same 2016-05-08T15:59:33 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-08T16:00:03 < dongs> install lunix 2016-05-08T16:00:19 < mra90> dongs: btw do you see clock setup there ? 2016-05-08T16:00:26 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:00:26 < dongs> where? 2016-05-08T16:00:37 < dongs> in that RM? its in RCC section 2016-05-08T16:00:40 < dongs> just like on all F4s. 2016-05-08T16:00:57 < mra90> yes in that reference 2016-05-08T16:01:35 < mra90> "6 Reset and clock control (RCC)" 2016-05-08T16:01:43 < mra90> this section you are tlaking about ? 2016-05-08T16:06:01 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-08T16:06:28 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:06:48 < dongs> yes 2016-05-08T16:07:53 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-08T16:08:19 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:11:48 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4102e.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-08T16:12:20 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d42d95.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:12:25 < mra90> ok thanks pal 2016-05-08T16:13:19 < mra90> since there is more than 1K pages I chacked chapters and some of subchapters and have never seen anything on clock setup...just an excuse :P 2016-05-08T16:16:38 < dongs> did you click the link from crt? 2016-05-08T16:16:41 < dongs> http://pastebin.com/L50TzCTn 2016-05-08T16:16:45 < dongs> notice which registers are being wrwitten to 2016-05-08T16:16:54 < dongs> under "SystemInit" 2016-05-08T16:19:14 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:28:42 -!- fat8 [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:29:07 < fat8> On my stm32F0 discovery board, there is an embedded ST-Link circuit. does that mean I do not need to buy a separate hardware debugger to do debugging? I can just do debugging by plugging a USB cable? 2016-05-08T16:29:31 < dongs> yes 2016-05-08T16:29:38 < dongs> cool isnt it 2016-05-08T16:30:22 < fat8> wow!!! I'm speechless!! I just got to use stm32 today. Used to use Arduino. Gosh. Why are people still using Arduino? Expensive!! 2016-05-08T16:30:43 < dongs> we ask them teh same question for the last few years. 2016-05-08T16:30:52 < Laurenceb_> fat8 confirmed as dogge 2016-05-08T16:31:04 < fat8> Laurenceb_: who's dogge? 2016-05-08T16:31:16 < Laurenceb_> I mean doge 2016-05-08T16:31:28 < Laurenceb_> wow!!! I'm speechless!! 2016-05-08T16:31:31 < Laurenceb_> wow!!! 2016-05-08T16:31:45 < fat8> how does stm32 compare with pic32? is stm32 cheaper? it seems to be so far 2016-05-08T16:31:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:31:51 < Laurenceb_> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Original_Doge_meme.jpg 2016-05-08T16:31:55 < dongs> pic32 is a nonstarter 2016-05-08T16:32:20 < Laurenceb_> inb4 zano 2016-05-08T16:32:46 < fat8> dongs: pic is good for 8-bit MCU. but again, when i look at stm32f0, it seems like the pricing and specs can replace all the 8-bit MCUs. do you agree? 2016-05-08T16:34:41 < dongs> yes, or if you dont really need 32bit, stm8 certainly can 2016-05-08T16:34:52 < fat8> what software tool should I use for debugging stm32? i'm new 2016-05-08T16:34:59 < dongs> F0? 2016-05-08T16:35:12 < fat8> yes, looking at F0 now 2016-05-08T16:35:24 < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk free, unlimited keil for f0/l0 2016-05-08T16:35:54 < fat8> stm32F0 already cost $1++. might as well use 32-bit. do u mean stm8 is below $1? 2016-05-08T16:36:03 < dongs> stm8s003 is liek $0.30 2016-05-08T16:36:16 < fat8> holy shit! is STM doing charity? 2016-05-08T16:36:17 < dongs> 8k flash/1k ram / lots of useful periphs 2016-05-08T16:37:18 < fat8> how about 32k flash and 2k ram like atmega328? how much would an equivalent stm8 cost? 2016-05-08T16:38:03 < fat8> does keil support ST-link natively for debugging? do i need to install something else? 2016-05-08T16:40:07 < dongs> < $1 still 2016-05-08T16:40:11 < dongs> no, it will just work 2016-05-08T16:40:20 < dongs> dont need to install anything. 2016-05-08T16:41:07 < fat8> dongs: so, there is a watch window that allows one to examine variables and step through code? Can I set breakpoint? something like visual studio? 2016-05-08T16:41:11 < dongs> yes 2016-05-08T16:41:15 < dongs> all of that. 2016-05-08T16:41:22 < dongs> and you can watch those vars while core is still running 2016-05-08T16:41:35 < fat8> I cannot help it. I'm a speechless doge 2016-05-08T16:41:37 < dongs> (same as memory windows, etc) 2016-05-08T16:41:55 < englishman> thats two converts from AVR in one night? 2016-05-08T16:42:02 < englishman> dont buy microchip stock 2016-05-08T16:42:11 < fat8> i'm done with Serial.print() with arduino 2016-05-08T16:42:23 < fat8> i'm in love with stm32 2016-05-08T16:42:34 < dongs> wait till you install keil 2016-05-08T16:42:42 < dongs> you'll be deleting arduino.exe in no time 2016-05-08T16:42:45 < englishman> no garbage fuse-clock trash in stm8 either 2016-05-08T16:42:55 < dongs> lol yeah 2016-05-08T16:43:00 < fat8> wait ... there may be something that stm32 cannot beat arduino ... 2016-05-08T16:43:06 < englishman> 16MHz intrc thats already more precise 2016-05-08T16:43:09 < dongs> "oops, set wrong fuses, pull out 12V programmer" 2016-05-08T16:43:14 < englishman> yeah lo 2016-05-08T16:43:15 < fat8> are there libraries as code-readable as Arduino libraries? 2016-05-08T16:43:27 < dongs> arduino libraries are readable? 2016-05-08T16:43:31 < englishman> if you want to copypaste other peoples basic blinky.c then stm32 is not for u 2016-05-08T16:43:34 < dongs> I thought most of them were written by people who dont know how to code 2016-05-08T16:43:59 < fat8> dongs: arduino libraries are easy to use. I'm not smart. Suitable for people like me. 2016-05-08T16:44:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T16:44:10 < englishman> you'll have to copypaste from official reference example libs instead 2016-05-08T16:44:19 < dongs> then use cube, generate code, copypaste it 2016-05-08T16:44:28 < dongs> cube outputs keil projects, too 2016-05-08T16:44:37 < fat8> dongs: where can one get sample code for stm32? Any good website? 2016-05-08T16:44:44 < dongs> like 3 clicks and you have a buildable shit wht /* insert your code here */ sections 2016-05-08T16:45:01 < dongs> first you need to figure out what you wanna do 2016-05-08T16:45:39 < Rob235> Mornin' 2016-05-08T16:45:51 < fat8> i want to receive some data on UART 1, then process the data, then output the data on UART 2. something like that 2016-05-08T16:46:20 < fat8> does stm32 use c or c++? 2016-05-08T16:46:23 < dongs> yes, so run cubemx, configure 2 uarts, while (1) { receive(); process(); transmit(); } 2016-05-08T16:46:29 < dongs> i think youre trolling 2016-05-08T16:47:19 < fat8> sorry, why am I trolling? 2016-05-08T16:47:32 < dongs> the questions are low quality 2016-05-08T16:47:46 < dongs> < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk free, unlimited keil for f0/l0 2016-05-08T16:47:47 < BrainDamage> that's like asking if your computer uses c or c++ 2016-05-08T16:47:55 < dongs> 2nd paragraph 2016-05-08T16:47:56 < dongs> of that link 2016-05-08T16:47:58 < dongs> that you should have clickede 2016-05-08T16:48:07 < dongs> Based on MDK Version 5, the MDK for STM32F0 and STM32L0 edition includes the ARM C/C++ Compiler, 2016-05-08T16:48:55 < fat8> err ... arduino uses C++ libraries. C++ libraries can be made more readable. I'm not sure if the stm32 libraries are written using C or C++ 2016-05-08T16:48:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T16:49:12 < dongs> you can write your "libraries" using wahtever you want 2016-05-08T16:49:17 < fat8> i'm not trolling. sorry, asking stupid questions. 2016-05-08T16:49:33 < Rob235> not everyone is a troll like you dongs, some people are just new to this stuff :) 2016-05-08T16:50:11 < BrainDamage> generall stm32 stuff is written c-style 2016-05-08T16:50:19 < BrainDamage> nothing forbids you to use c++ howrever 2016-05-08T16:50:28 < dongs> especially if you have a proper compiler like keil 2016-05-08T16:50:30 < fat8> dongs: i'm not going to write directly to registers. I prefer to use high-level libraries which do not involve writing to registers 2016-05-08T16:50:39 < BrainDamage> there's also multiple libraries to pick from 2016-05-08T16:50:48 < fat8> not good enough to write directly to registers. 2016-05-08T16:51:49 < fat8> BrainDamage: i googled a bit. It seems that the recommended one is the one from CubeMX. something they called HAL libraries. Are there other libraries beside HAL? 2016-05-08T16:52:23 < BrainDamage> HAL is a concept, hardware abstraction library 2016-05-08T16:52:33 < fat8> hmm ... Can the application be C++ despite using C libraries? 2016-05-08T16:52:37 < BrainDamage> sure 2016-05-08T16:52:54 < BrainDamage> c++ was born with the concept of backwards compatibility with c 2016-05-08T16:53:15 < BrainDamage> there's some really really tiny differences that are almost never met 2016-05-08T16:53:34 < fat8> BrainDamage: thanks for your answers. u're not brain-damaged at all:) 2016-05-08T16:53:46 < BrainDamage> libopencm3 is also a popular hal with stm32 2016-05-08T16:53:54 < BrainDamage> there's also chibios's hal 2016-05-08T16:54:09 < BrainDamage> also depends what license you need 2016-05-08T16:54:14 < Rob235> stdPeriph 2016-05-08T16:54:40 < fat8> BrainDamage: but if I want to use CubeMX, I cannot use these other libraries like libopencm3 and chibios. Correct? 2016-05-08T16:55:21 < dongs> you generally dont wanna use them anyway 2016-05-08T16:55:30 < dongs> none of opensores shit suports proper compilers 2016-05-08T16:55:31 < fat8> hmm ... would it be safer to just stick to CUbeMX since the libraries are written by STM? 2016-05-08T16:55:38 < dongs> use cubemx + keil 2016-05-08T16:55:41 < dongs> all autogenerated, all works 2016-05-08T16:55:42 < BrainDamage> welll, you could but it won't be painless, also your binary size will likely baloon up 2016-05-08T16:55:44 < dongs> just write your code 2016-05-08T16:55:58 < BrainDamage> stm32 have way more code space than tarduinos, but it's not infinite 2016-05-08T16:56:27 < fat8> dongs: writing my own code means writing directly to the registers? err ... I might as well go back to Arduino 2016-05-08T16:56:39 < dongs> no writing your fucking logic 2016-05-08T16:56:45 < dongs> < dongs> yes, so run cubemx, configure 2 uarts, while (1) { receive(); process(); transmit(); } 2016-05-08T16:56:52 < dongs> you're gonna write process() 2016-05-08T16:56:55 < dongs> to do wahtever teh fuck with your data 2016-05-08T16:57:00 < dongs> probably wont touch a single register anywhere. 2016-05-08T16:57:19 < fat8> dongs: ok. thanks. no need to swear. thanks for your answer anyway 2016-05-08T16:58:08 < fat8> BrainDamage: so, the disadvantage to using CubeMX is that the binary size will blow up, right? what are the alternatives if one want to have a small binary size? 2016-05-08T16:58:32 < dongs> cubemx + keil is fine 2016-05-08T16:58:35 < dongs> cuz the compiler actually works 2016-05-08T16:58:54 < BrainDamage> since you're just starting, don't bother with all the choices 2016-05-08T16:59:01 < BrainDamage> pick one, write shit 2016-05-08T16:59:02 < Rob235> fat8: stick to cubemx and keil, install them and mess around with them 2016-05-08T16:59:20 < fat8> ok. i take your advice. thank u, all of u 2016-05-08T17:04:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T17:08:13 < fat8> stm32 uses ARM. So, is the knowledge I gain from stm32 applicable to other MCUs which also use ARM? 2016-05-08T17:08:31 < karlp> some, but for most purposes it's not actually relevant. 2016-05-08T17:08:53 < karlp> you compile plain old code, it doesn't _really_ matter for the most part what the cpu core is. 2016-05-08T17:09:05 < karlp> more of the work is with the peripherals, 2016-05-08T17:09:49 < fat8> how about concepts like the nested interrupts which allow priorities to be set? Is this the same for other MCUs which use ARM? Arduino MCUs does not have this feature 2016-05-08T17:11:08 < BrainDamage> arduino libs don't even have async adc acquisition, compared to busywaitduino everything will be a step up 2016-05-08T17:11:27 < karlp> yes, that's something common to arm cortex, but it's not really a terribly major part to be concerned about "porting this knowledge to another mcu" 2016-05-08T17:11:52 < BrainDamage> just concentrate on writing good code using what's there 2016-05-08T17:13:27 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-08T17:14:13 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T17:15:28 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T17:15:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I downloaded caffeinated but it doesn't seem to work 2016-05-08T17:29:12 < dongs> ? 2016-05-08T17:29:18 < dongs> a wat 2016-05-08T17:29:59 < Rob235> keep windows10 from going to sleep 2016-05-08T17:30:08 < Rob235> little icon in the taskbar that you click to activate 2016-05-08T17:30:23 < dongs> the fuck? 2016-05-08T17:30:31 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-08T17:31:38 < Laurenceb_> now thats a hack 2016-05-08T17:31:39 < Laurenceb_> http://sp9uob.verox.pl/pliki/vaisala_ssdv.jpg 2016-05-08T17:34:16 < Steffanx> Why you just dont disable sleep at all Rob235? 2016-05-08T17:34:31 < Steffanx> And when you do want to sleep, tell it to do tat. 2016-05-08T17:36:03 < Rob235> because I don't always want the computer to stay awake. why is this such a crazy concept to you guys, its an awesome app, its a little grey icon of a cup of coffee when disabled, you click it and it turns black and it's enabled and your computer stays up. If I have downloads going I don't want my pc to sleep, click the button, etc 2016-05-08T17:36:27 < Rob235> you guys just like to argue 2016-05-08T17:36:34 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-08T17:37:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T17:37:14 < Steffanx> Had a tough night Rob235? 2016-05-08T17:38:20 < zyp> Rob235, I'm running OS X and I still think it's a strange problem :) 2016-05-08T17:38:32 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T17:38:44 < Rob235> then I guess we use computers differently 2016-05-08T17:39:08 < dongs> Rob235: ... if you have a download going your computer wont be sleeping 2016-05-08T17:39:15 < dongs> windows has this concept of "stuff is working, don't go to sleep" 2016-05-08T17:39:17 < Laurenceb_> http://static4.quoteswave.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/There-are-more-stars.jpg?31a535 2016-05-08T17:39:50 < Steffanx> Hows the horse tool going Laurenceb_? 2016-05-08T17:39:59 < Laurenceb_> not so bad 2016-05-08T17:40:07 < Rob235> it does all the time, it may be because these torrents have no seeders so I rarely connect to someone and get incoming data but it's always asleep a while later 2016-05-08T17:40:31 < Steffanx> doesn't your torrent client have this option? 2016-05-08T17:40:32 < zyp> why do you torrent on a computer that needs to sleep? 2016-05-08T17:40:48 < Lux> Laurenceb_: most retarded quote of the day ? 2016-05-08T17:41:03 < Rob235> haha jesus guys, forget it, I don't care enough to argue with you 2016-05-08T17:42:19 < BrainDamage> buttplug* 2016-05-08T17:42:44 < Steffanx> Yeah Rob235. You should leave your torrent pc on, no hit&run torrenting. 2016-05-08T17:43:13 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP4L-7d2o0 2016-05-08T17:46:00 < Rob235> what do you guys think of HEVC/x265? 2016-05-08T17:46:53 < Rob235> Is it just better compression for higher bitrate video? 2016-05-08T17:46:53 -!- fat8 [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-08T17:47:45 < Steffanx> "haha jesus guys, forget it, I don't care enough to argue with you". 2016-05-08T17:47:57 < zyp> Rob235, last I heard it's still to heavy to be very practical 2016-05-08T17:48:05 < zyp> haven't looked much into it myself 2016-05-08T17:49:44 < Rob235> I downloaded a few movies @ ~2GB each (1080p bluray rips) and they look good, I should look at my cpu usage when playing 2016-05-08T17:50:27 < Steffanx> yify release? Those are SMALL. 2016-05-08T17:50:38 < Rob235> no I dont think yify does hevc 2016-05-08T17:50:47 < BrainDamage> x265 is more efficient, about twice of x264 for same quality, but it's not light on resources 2016-05-08T17:51:11 < BrainDamage> esp since x264 often has hw accel but 265 not 2016-05-08T17:51:16 < Rob235> I just got a 4TB drive so I'm trying to fill it up :) 2016-05-08T17:51:57 < dongs> hope you don't acutally need any of that 4tb 2016-05-08T17:52:11 < Steffanx> You should get 2016-05-08T17:52:11 < Steffanx> Battlestar.Galactica.S01-S04.Complete.Series.BluRay.1080p.DTS.x264.dxva-FraMeSToR Rob235. 2016-05-08T17:52:16 < Rob235> no this is just for a media server, got an external enclosure and plugged it into my router 2016-05-08T17:52:18 < Steffanx> only 600GB. 2016-05-08T17:52:29 < Steffanx> *500 2016-05-08T17:52:39 < dongs> oh okay. enjoy reading from it at 30meg/sec 2016-05-08T17:53:08 < Rob235> working so far 2016-05-08T17:53:28 < Steffanx> What os and stuff Rob235? 2016-05-08T17:53:41 < Rob235> os on what 2016-05-08T17:53:49 < Steffanx> oh nevermind 2016-05-08T17:53:56 < Steffanx> i failed to read properly. 2016-05-08T17:53:59 < Rob235> ahh 2016-05-08T17:54:55 < Rob235> I'll get a proper NAS setup when I feel like I need it but for now this will do 2016-05-08T17:56:43 < Rob235> get a nice 4x6TB in Raid 01 or whatever, I forget the different raid setups 2016-05-08T17:58:11 < Steffanx> Diehard freenas with zfs of course. 2016-05-08T18:02:35 < Rob235> you guys use a vpn or anything? 2016-05-08T18:08:19 < Rob235> alright this ws2812 animation library should be finished today and my package comes tomorrow to finish wiring 2016-05-08T18:08:39 < Rob235> been wanting to test it 2016-05-08T18:08:48 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokšt] 2016-05-08T18:09:59 -!- dan [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 2016-05-08T18:10:06 -!- Guest26684 [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T18:13:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-08T18:15:04 < Rob235> I mean this is just a start and only handles one aspect of the animation so far but it's beautiful :) http://pastebin.com/cYBvte8p 2016-05-08T18:15:29 < Rob235> and don't worry, there are no comments to explain anything 2016-05-08T18:32:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T18:37:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-08T18:46:36 < upgrdman> dat ending https://gfycat.com/ShadowySecondaryKangaroo 2016-05-08T18:47:12 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used lenovo thinkpads? 2016-05-08T18:47:22 < Laurenceb_> I can't get bluetooth running under linux :-/ 2016-05-08T18:47:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T18:48:20 < Sync> works ootb for me Laurenceb_ 2016-05-08T18:48:32 < Laurenceb_> you have an sl500 series? 2016-05-08T18:50:15 < Sync> no 2016-05-08T18:50:36 < Sync> not getting a cheap fuck thinkpad 2016-05-08T18:51:52 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-08T19:02:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T19:12:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.157] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T19:13:04 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-08T19:18:44 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T19:19:57 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:395b:187c:7941:c106] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T19:20:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-08T19:28:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-08T19:33:11 < Steffanx> Rob235_ no video of what that code outputs? 2016-05-08T19:33:50 < Rob235_> I'm waiting on a package to finish wiring the drone, will be here tomorrow, I'm hoping to get this library finished today, wiring done tomorrow and I'll record some video if everything's working 2016-05-08T19:34:15 < Steffanx> :) 2016-05-08T19:34:39 < Rob235_> this is the list of animation options I came up with so far, I want to set it to create a random animation every few seconds and see what it comes up with: http://pastebin.com/aeM5Tpkg 2016-05-08T19:36:44 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T19:38:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T19:42:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.41.50] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T19:46:25 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T20:05:34 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@130.180.220.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T20:08:06 < Rob235_> just codin' 2016-05-08T20:14:12 < Laurenceb_> is there any way to run 4 LEDs with 3 gpio? 2016-05-08T20:17:45 < upgrdman> can they be mutex 2016-05-08T20:17:58 < upgrdman> e.g. one on if another is off 2016-05-08T20:19:20 < Yoduza> Interface Type: SAI, SDIO :o 2016-05-08T20:26:15 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T20:26:15 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-08T20:26:24 < Steffanx> charliplex them Laurenceb_? 2016-05-08T20:27:28 < Steffanx> you could even make it 6 leds then 2016-05-08T20:31:37 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T20:33:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.41.50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-08T20:35:11 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-08T20:35:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T20:43:06 < englishman> insufficient data to compute what Laurenceb_ is trolling about 2016-05-08T20:43:14 < englishman> you can run 4 leds off 1 gpio 2016-05-08T20:43:18 < englishman> with 1 bit total output information 2016-05-08T20:45:14 < englishman> look here 6 leds in series with 1 gpio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KMLmpC7-Ls 2016-05-08T20:50:06 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T20:51:04 < Steffanx> and faked. 2016-05-08T20:51:44 < Steffanx> oh this one has the "solution" i didnt watch that far. 2016-05-08T20:52:12 < Steffanx> but yeah, that is a "nice" way too. 2016-05-08T20:52:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-08T21:03:57 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T21:04:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-08T21:04:26 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T21:13:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T21:13:24 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-08T21:26:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-08T21:45:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T21:46:04 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-05-08T21:56:23 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T22:02:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-08T22:07:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T22:08:43 < kakimir> sold some electronic circuit 2016-05-08T22:08:50 < kakimir> actually made money 2016-05-08T22:11:56 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T22:12:32 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMVBsX0UyZEFwalE/view?usp=sharing there is something wrong with these ultra cheap nice enclosures 2016-05-08T22:12:47 < kakimir> it has extra filament 2016-05-08T22:20:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T22:24:04 < Steffanx> Did it have SMA, kakimir? 2016-05-08T22:25:33 < ReadError> englishman pics of twizzers 2016-05-08T22:25:47 < ReadError> for thermaldongics 2016-05-08T22:26:23 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/Um0Mz77.jpg 2016-05-08T22:26:39 < ReadError> thats just the tip 2016-05-08T22:26:43 < englishman> yes 2016-05-08T22:26:46 < ReadError> got any of the whole thing? 2016-05-08T22:26:50 < englishman> sure 1s 2016-05-08T22:27:09 < ReadError> you said theres something crazy that plugs into the power thing? 2016-05-08T22:27:19 < kakimir> no sma 2016-05-08T22:27:51 < englishman> hm? 2016-05-08T22:28:53 < ReadError> i forget 2016-05-08T22:29:02 < ReadError> is the alignment good? or adjustable enough? 2016-05-08T22:29:12 < ReadError> any pics of it w/ the other handle? 2016-05-08T22:29:17 < ReadError> the black thing looked really small 2016-05-08T22:29:19 < englishman> i guess you adjust alignment by rotating the bendy tips 2016-05-08T22:29:30 < englishman> then you secure them with a collet so they dont turn 2016-05-08T22:29:45 < ReadError> what are those 2 switch lookin things 2016-05-08T22:29:49 < ReadError> sliders 2016-05-08T22:29:55 < englishman> pix show 2016-05-08T22:29:57 < englishman> http://imgur.com/a/GrUrv 2016-05-08T22:31:32 < ReadError> oh so you can lock it 2016-05-08T22:31:34 < englishman> i also got some blue-band tips for regular thermaldonix 2016-05-08T22:31:39 < englishman> they solder just as good, but slower 2016-05-08T22:31:43 < englishman> so more fine blob control 2016-05-08T22:31:58 < ReadError> im using the 5mm beast one right now 2016-05-08T22:32:00 < Steffanx> fancy pants. 2016-05-08T22:32:01 < ReadError> on some 10awg 2016-05-08T22:32:05 < englishman> thing is 2016-05-08T22:32:09 < kakimir> time to code 2016-05-08T22:32:12 < kakimir> first time in weeks 2016-05-08T22:32:14 < englishman> i ordered the wrong fucking tips for the tweezers 2016-05-08T22:32:19 < ReadError> o 2016-05-08T22:32:22 < englishman> got some for 2000 series or something 2016-05-08T22:32:25 < ReadError> what were you trying to get? 2016-05-08T22:32:26 < englishman> that are completely different 2016-05-08T22:32:27 < ReadError> oh 2016-05-08T22:32:32 < ReadError> tried the flat ones? 2016-05-08T22:32:37 < englishman> M instead of T or whatever in part number 2016-05-08T22:32:38 < ReadError> wondering how they work for qfp 2016-05-08T22:32:48 < englishman> the angled-pencil thingy? 2016-05-08T22:33:01 < ReadError> it looked like a blade 2016-05-08T22:33:04 < englishman> for qfn im using 2016-05-08T22:33:14 < englishman> m7bs602 2016-05-08T22:33:44 < englishman> or 2016-05-08T22:33:54 < englishman> m7bv350 2016-05-08T22:34:08 < englishman> yes the 2nd one 2016-05-08T22:34:25 < englishman> heats pad and lead with the angled bit 2016-05-08T22:34:33 < ReadError> oh ya i use the 350 for everything 2016-05-08T22:34:37 < ReadError> mostly 2016-05-08T22:34:40 < englishman> cool 2016-05-08T22:34:51 < ReadError> or LR400 2016-05-08T22:35:01 < ReadError> but nah im saying for the tweezers 2016-05-08T22:35:13 < englishman> i just got the pointys, but the real ones 2016-05-08T22:35:15 < englishman> coming in the mail 2016-05-08T22:35:31 < englishman> tweezers for qfp? 2016-05-08T22:36:06 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/Je2Y1G3.png 2016-05-08T22:36:36 < ReadError> thought it was something to like, drag along the sides 2016-05-08T22:36:39 < ReadError> dik 2016-05-08T22:36:42 < ReadError> idk 2016-05-08T22:37:18 < englishman> i think id still use a single iron for that 2016-05-08T22:37:42 < englishman> got M70TZ003 coming for the tweezers 2016-05-08T22:37:49 < ReadError> http://www.thermaltronics.com/tmt-ha200.php 2016-05-08T22:37:54 < ReadError> bet this is nice 2016-05-08T22:38:02 < ReadError> but 4x the price of my current thing 2016-05-08T22:38:16 < Steffanx> In altium, when you have a 0603 footprint with 2 different 3d bodies ( for a cap and a resistor for example ) do you really have to make 2 seperate footprints for those? Or did i miss some fancy feature? 2016-05-08T22:39:10 < ReadError> for the color differences? 2016-05-08T22:39:46 < Yoduza> is "Micron" marker good for photoresist pcb lines inc ? 2016-05-08T22:40:10 < Steffanx> more to have some fancy cap 3d body and a resistor 3d body ReadError. 2016-05-08T22:40:19 < Steffanx> or a led when it's a led. 2016-05-08T22:40:35 < Yoduza> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Portable-1pcs-Drawing-Ultra-Fine-Line-Pen-Good-Chemical-Resistant-High-Quality-Pen-Painting-Hot/32594132446.html 2016-05-08T22:41:20 < BrainDamage> it resists ferric chloride but with sodium persulphate it peels off 2016-05-08T22:41:35 < BrainDamage> also there's not much reason to diy pcb much anymore 2016-05-08T22:41:53 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-08T22:43:50 < ReadError> Steffanx you should have a 0603 footprint for each of those parts 2016-05-08T22:43:55 < ReadError> since the sizes are dfferent 2016-05-08T22:46:05 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T22:47:40 < Steffanx> Sizes are different as in, do not use the same footprint for a led, cap and/or resistor? ( i had those the ~ same size ) 2016-05-08T22:47:40 < ReadError> oh hm maybe not 2016-05-08T22:48:05 < Steffanx> In this case the only difference is a fancy 3d body that is different. 2016-05-08T22:48:13 < ReadError> pretty sure you need a uniq footprint for each 2016-05-08T22:48:21 < ReadError> you can have different footprints for 1 part 2016-05-08T22:48:30 < ReadError> but not different 3d bodies for 1 footprint 2016-05-08T22:48:53 < Steffanx> that's what i guessed. 2016-05-08T22:49:32 < Rob235_> woo, now, colors and gradients work along with two layer sliding animations 2016-05-08T22:49:45 < Rob235_> well the code is done, I don't know if it works yet :) 2016-05-08T22:49:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T22:50:02 < ReadError> you flown it yet? 2016-05-08T22:50:15 < Rob235_> no, package coming tomorrow to finish wiring 2016-05-08T22:50:44 < Rob235_> then i have to test everything, just wanted to get the led library finished too so I can use it as output 2016-05-08T22:52:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T22:53:22 < Rob235_> http://pastebin.com/hxubcMhh 2016-05-08T22:53:28 < Rob235_> good luck without comments though 2016-05-08T23:01:01 < Rob235_> everyone likes looking at other people's code but not talk about it, I know 4 of you looked ;) 2016-05-08T23:02:36 < ReadError> wait for dongs 2016-05-08T23:02:45 < ReadError> he will provide the best feedback 2016-05-08T23:03:06 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/3pc-Incense-Oil-Burner-4-2000/dp/B01CKUORRO/ 2016-05-08T23:03:08 < ReadError> heh amazon 2016-05-08T23:03:32 < Rob235_> haha I don't think I want dongs feedback 2016-05-08T23:03:40 < Rob235_> I'm sure he will tell me every part of it sucks 2016-05-08T23:04:50 < Rob235_> I like the question: "Why does it look like a crack pipe?" 2016-05-08T23:05:33 < Rob235_> oh shit, I forgot my code doesn't work as is with variable length layers, I gotta fix that 2016-05-08T23:14:47 < lorenzo> http://nonbinary.org/wiki/List_of_nonbinary_identities 2016-05-08T23:15:54 < Laurenceb_> http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/products/ 2016-05-08T23:16:05 < Laurenceb_> someone has been stealing IP from #highaltitude 2016-05-08T23:16:14 < Laurenceb_> lorenzo: old :P 2016-05-08T23:16:38 < Laurenceb_> also no attack helicopter 2016-05-08T23:18:49 < Laurenceb_> inb4 quantum gender 2016-05-08T23:19:17 < Rob235_> it's not bad practice to use break in a for loop is it? 2016-05-08T23:19:23 < Laurenceb_> shit http://www.metafilter.com/146907/My-gender-exists-in-some-sort-of-quantum-state 2016-05-08T23:19:33 < Laurenceb_> all my ideas are pre stolen 2016-05-08T23:19:54 < Tectu> Rob235_, no, it's nod bad practice at all 2016-05-08T23:19:58 < BrainDamage> it's ok, qm is a social construct 2016-05-08T23:19:59 < Rob235_> ok good :) 2016-05-08T23:20:04 < Tectu> Rob235_, there's not really an alternative to that if you need it ;) 2016-05-08T23:20:16 < lorenzo> Rob235_: MISRA rule 58 Exception: The break statement may be used to “break” out of a single loop provided the alternative would obscure or otherwise significantly complicate the control logic. 2016-05-08T23:20:18 < Tectu> Rob235_, same applies to continue. They were designed for that case :P 2016-05-08T23:20:22 < Rob235_> yea it will work perfectly, I just wasn't sure 2016-05-08T23:20:35 < Steffanx> lorenzo: MISRA -_- 2016-05-08T23:20:50 < Rob235_> oh wait, it's continue I want isn't it... 2016-05-08T23:21:13 * Laurenceb_ realises he doesnt know how to use continue 2016-05-08T23:21:21 < lorenzo> continue? 2016-05-08T23:21:27 < Steffanx> goto 2016-05-08T23:21:54 < BrainDamage> continue skips to the end of the scope 2016-05-08T23:22:00 < Rob235_> I'm assuming break stops the for loop and continue just doesn't run the rest of the code in that iteration and then continues 2016-05-08T23:22:06 < Laurenceb_> ah, I've never used it lol 2016-05-08T23:22:14 < Laurenceb_> seems better than goto :P 2016-05-08T23:22:19 < BrainDamage> it's a bit cleaner than having 1000 nested ifs 2016-05-08T23:24:36 < Rob235_> ok so now my code should work with variable length layers 2016-05-08T23:24:39 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-08T23:27:24 < Laurenceb_> wtf is that like di.fm ? 2016-05-08T23:27:42 < Laurenceb_> I used to listen to di.fm back in about 2003 2016-05-08T23:28:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-08T23:28:09 < Laurenceb_> when I was a school troll 2016-05-08T23:28:28 < BrainDamage> now a professional troll 2016-05-08T23:28:42 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-08T23:29:14 < Laurenceb_> my best troll at school was trolling Tony Blair with video of Blair/Bush buttsecs on overhead projector 2016-05-08T23:29:42 < Sync> wat 2016-05-08T23:29:57 < Laurenceb_> scheduled tasks ftw 2016-05-08T23:30:13 < Laurenceb_> the timing was perfect 2016-05-08T23:31:21 < Laurenceb_> apparently it went off just as he walked into the main hall 2016-05-08T23:33:18 < kakimir> what makes scientific baloon so fukken expensive? 2016-05-08T23:33:24 < mra90> documentation says "Reset value: 0x0000 XX83 where X is undefined." it refers to RCC but what is that reset value and how to use it ? 2016-05-08T23:33:30 < kakimir> it's just a tailored plastic bag 2016-05-08T23:33:31 < Laurenceb_> wut thats super cheap 2016-05-08T23:33:40 < Laurenceb_> you want to make one for that price?! good luck 2016-05-08T23:33:58 < BrainDamage> balloon looks fine 2016-05-08T23:34:06 < Laurenceb_> just sourcing the right plastic film is a massive pita 2016-05-08T23:34:13 < BrainDamage> needs 50$ extra junk of piping and regulators 2016-05-08T23:34:15 < Laurenceb_> I have a roll of it but you cant have it lol 2016-05-08T23:34:23 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: what is the film? 2016-05-08T23:34:28 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-08T23:34:55 < Laurenceb_> Nylon / EVOH / polythene 2016-05-08T23:35:02 < BrainDamage> then you need to suck BOC's dick for the gas 2016-05-08T23:35:09 < BrainDamage> if you're in the uk 2016-05-08T23:35:15 < Laurenceb_> strength / gas tight / saleability 2016-05-08T23:35:16 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-08T23:35:28 < Laurenceb_> however you spell the last one lol 2016-05-08T23:36:11 < Laurenceb_> lul yeah why the version numbers 2016-05-08T23:36:40 < Laurenceb_> maybe he does some git add -A 2016-05-08T23:37:20 < Laurenceb_> I wouldn't trust those envelopes until they had been pre stressed with room temperature inflation and left for a day or two 2016-05-08T23:37:46 < BrainDamage> and a rocket payload has been launched from 2016-05-08T23:38:38 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: combination of those? 2016-05-08T23:38:57 < Laurenceb_> what? I don't understand you 2016-05-08T23:39:14 < kakimir> :34 < Laurenceb_> Nylon / EVOH / polythene 2016-05-08T23:39:25 < Laurenceb_> its a multilayer film 2016-05-08T23:39:41 < kakimir> test 2016-05-08T23:39:41 < Laurenceb_> 3 layers heat sealed together 2016-05-08T23:39:42 < BrainDamage> it has to be resistant in compression and traction 2016-05-08T23:39:50 < kakimir> test 2016-05-08T23:39:52 < BrainDamage> hence you want composites 2016-05-08T23:40:12 < kakimir> test 2016-05-08T23:40:14 < BrainDamage> same reason why composite bows kick ass of normal ones 2016-05-08T23:40:21 < BrainDamage> you failed the test, pls stop 2016-05-08T23:40:47 < kakimir> hey Laurenceb_ ... why not use parachute farbik and ... some seal layer? 2016-05-08T23:40:53 < kakimir> butyline 2016-05-08T23:41:08 < Laurenceb_> thats would be too heavy 2016-05-08T23:41:43 < BrainDamage> archimes' principle 2016-05-08T23:42:00 < BrainDamage> remember the ballon lift is buoyant force 2016-05-08T23:42:17 < BrainDamage> you want it the least dense possible to increase lift 2016-05-08T23:42:35 < BrainDamage> at the same time, if you want high altitude, it needs high tensile strength 2016-05-08T23:43:05 < BrainDamage> and you want a decent amount of lift, otherwise you risk the balloonto become a floater 2016-05-08T23:43:14 < BrainDamage> unless ofc it's your intention to begin with 2016-05-08T23:43:18 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-05-08T23:43:23 < kakimir> I wonder if paraglider wing could be made without filling wents 2016-05-08T23:43:45 < kakimir> that use kinetic force to keep wing shape formed 2016-05-08T23:43:58 < kakimir> by pumpin 2016-05-08T23:44:10 < kakimir> I mean avoid them vents in front 2016-05-08T23:44:17 < kakimir> and improve 2016-05-08T23:44:25 < kakimir> reenode/##stm32(+cnpst)] [Act: 4,5,6,8,10,11,12,14,15,17] 2016-05-08T23:44:25 < kakimir> [##stm32] 2016-05-08T23:45:17 < kakimir> fill it like baloon 2016-05-08T23:45:27 < kakimir> and take off 2016-05-08T23:45:43 < kakimir> add some layer to farbic 2016-05-08T23:45:53 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-36242816 2016-05-08T23:46:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-08T23:47:05 < BrainDamage> damn 300m is impressive 2016-05-08T23:50:15 < kakimir> not really 2016-05-08T23:50:30 < kakimir> just buy 300meter spool 2016-05-08T23:58:09 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4Eti0UmDI 2016-05-08T23:58:22 < kakimir> you have long way to go, boy 2016-05-08T23:58:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Mon May 09 2016 2016-05-09T00:00:55 < Laurenceb_> I still think the Tony Blair troll was pretty good 2016-05-09T00:02:43 < kakimir> you trolled tony blair? 2016-05-09T00:03:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-09T00:05:26 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-09T00:05:53 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T00:06:14 < BrainDamage> sorry but nothing will beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvVHqfWN0dA 2016-05-09T00:06:28 < kakimir> he butt you in the list? 2016-05-09T00:06:58 < kakimir> terrorist list 2016-05-09T00:09:34 < kakimir> that sounds more like pranking 2016-05-09T00:11:02 < kakimir> in trolling the trollee(s) is/are unaware what is happening 2016-05-09T00:12:01 < Laurenceb_> anyone know how to install thinkpad_acpi? 2016-05-09T00:13:02 < Laurenceb_> I dunno what I'm doing lol 2016-05-09T00:14:50 < BrainDamage> why 2016-05-09T00:15:20 < kakimir> install gentoo 2016-05-09T00:15:24 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying to get bluetooth working 2016-05-09T00:16:11 < Laurenceb_> thought it might help lol 2016-05-09T00:16:36 < Laurenceb_> but actually I don't know what I'm doing, other than that I should have a bluetooth module on this machine 2016-05-09T00:17:15 < BrainDamage> acpi is for power management 2016-05-09T00:17:29 < BrainDamage> unless it's somehow disabling the bluetooth, i don't see how it's helping 2016-05-09T00:17:39 < BrainDamage> check lspci and lsusb instead 2016-05-09T00:18:43 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: why you don't have latest ubuntu? 2016-05-09T00:18:50 < kakimir> is the real question 2016-05-09T00:20:24 < Laurenceb_> nothing there 2016-05-09T00:20:31 < Laurenceb_> maybe the spec lies 2016-05-09T00:20:41 < Laurenceb_> I should dismantle the laptop to find out 2016-05-09T00:21:01 < BrainDamage> bluetooth chip is often shared with wifi in modern machines 2016-05-09T00:21:18 < Laurenceb_> Intel 1000 series wifi found on pci 2016-05-09T00:21:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T00:22:46 < Laurenceb_> nope no bluetooth there 2016-05-09T00:23:03 < Laurenceb_> maybe the weird Germans who sold me this machine removed the bluetooth :P 2016-05-09T00:23:13 < Laurenceb_> seems possible 2016-05-09T00:23:51 < Rob235_> my brain hurts 2016-05-09T00:24:24 < kakimir> so greedy 2016-05-09T00:24:26 < Rob235_> just need to add alpha blending and any other effects I can think of 2016-05-09T00:25:01 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: what is the model? 2016-05-09T00:26:05 < Laurenceb_> SL510 2847DFG 2016-05-09T00:26:58 * kakimir vommits in his mouth a bit 2016-05-09T00:27:23 < lorenzo> Laurenceb_: on thinkpad you have to explicitly enable bluetooth in bios 2016-05-09T00:27:24 < kakimir> it doesn't have bluetooth 2016-05-09T00:27:27 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-09T00:27:45 < lorenzo> it's under security -> radio something 2016-05-09T00:27:49 < Laurenceb_> lorenzo: ok 2016-05-09T00:27:56 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: how do you know? 2016-05-09T00:28:44 < kakimir> I had one and never got found bluetooth device 2016-05-09T00:28:48 < kakimir> in windows 2016-05-09T00:29:13 < Laurenceb_> ah cool, thanks 2016-05-09T00:29:32 < BrainDamage> you can always buy an usb dong 2016-05-09T00:29:33 < Laurenceb_> yeah google brings up a few people with same problem, looks like spec is a lie then 2016-05-09T00:29:38 < Laurenceb_> yeah I'll have to 2016-05-09T00:30:00 < kakimir> spec fails to say it's not for all the models 2016-05-09T00:30:04 < kakimir> or something 2016-05-09T00:30:11 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-09T00:30:52 < kakimir> why the hell you buy sl510? 2016-05-09T00:30:57 < lorenzo> who uses wireless in 2016 anyway 2016-05-09T00:31:08 < lorenzo> with the discovery of copper, wiremore is a much better approach 2016-05-09T00:31:38 < kakimir> mx master is quite nice application of bluetooth 2016-05-09T00:31:54 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: I didn't, this is old machine I want to use for a demonstration of horse kit 2016-05-09T00:32:01 < Laurenceb_> demo requires bluetooth :S 2016-05-09T00:32:34 < kakimir> you better still check bios if I failed to back then 2016-05-09T00:32:49 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-09T00:38:29 < kakimir> sl510 is like old steam engine after last tech netbook 2016-05-09T00:39:43 < Laurenceb_> lul I have much older 2016-05-09T00:40:04 < Laurenceb_> I should take my Compaq Armada 2016-05-09T00:40:11 < kakimir> I have 2003 dell and it's berfectly fine 2016-05-09T00:40:50 < kakimir> all the connectivity, high res display etc. 2016-05-09T00:41:15 < kakimir> doesn't butt out steam like sl510 burns the left hand with 2016-05-09T00:42:05 -!- emeb [~ericb@174-17-34-154.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T00:43:33 < kakimir> even battery pack have those leds for charge state 2016-05-09T00:44:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T00:44:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T00:45:58 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-09T00:47:09 * kakimir closes ide 2 hours later without a line of code written 2016-05-09T00:48:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T00:49:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T00:54:48 < upgrdman> what ide 2016-05-09T00:54:54 < upgrdman> arduino ide? 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I have also implement a position PID control 2016-05-09T01:34:36 < metRo_> now I want to get the velocity so I need to measure the encoder event signal 2016-05-09T01:35:03 < metRo_> there is any way to do that by hardware peripherals? 2016-05-09T01:35:26 < metRo_> per example make a RI of the encoder signal start another timer counter? 2016-05-09T01:36:12 < metRo_> I can split the signal and use it on an input capture chanel 2016-05-09T01:36:22 < metRo_> but I was wondering if I can do that internal 2016-05-09T01:36:37 < metRo_> (sorry my english. I hope you understand what I want) 2016-05-09T01:44:10 < Sync> you can do that, usually it is enough to do it in software at every pid cycle start 2016-05-09T01:44:28 < Sync> you will need an observer anyway to avoid quantization at low speeds 2016-05-09T01:45:01 < metRo_> Sync I was trying to avoid to do it using software 2016-05-09T01:45:52 < Sync> why? there is no reason not to do it in software 2016-05-09T01:47:11 < Sync> you can of course do input capture and measure the time between pulses, but there is no reason to 2016-05-09T01:49:25 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@130.180.220.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T01:49:42 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-09T01:52:35 < metRo_> Sync right now I have a timer firing a interrupt at 100hz where I update my PID 2016-05-09T01:53:11 < metRo_> you are saying to get the ticks diference from last update and calculate the velocity> 2016-05-09T01:53:15 < metRo_> ? 2016-05-09T01:53:16 < Sync> yes 2016-05-09T01:54:04 < Sync> the only thing you need to make sure is that your maximum speed is lower than the maximum count of the timer vs the sampling time 2016-05-09T01:54:12 < Sync> otherwise things explode 2016-05-09T01:54:33 < metRo_> but that way I can get wrong velocities 2016-05-09T01:54:41 < metRo_> yes as you said :p 2016-05-09T01:54:58 < metRo_> If measure the encoder tick I always get the last correct velocity 2016-05-09T01:55:13 < Sync> yes, but you don't need to 2016-05-09T01:55:35 < Sync> the only problem you get is quantization at low speeds, but you also get that with the timing method 2016-05-09T01:56:04 < metRo_> my motor run at 500RPM 2016-05-09T01:56:13 < Sync> that is not a lot 2016-05-09T01:57:35 < metRo_> 1200 counts per revolution 2016-05-09T01:58:10 < metRo_> 8.3 RPs 2016-05-09T01:58:39 < metRo_> 8.3*1200 = 10000 counts per second 2016-05-09T01:58:56 < Sync> careful, before or after 4 quadrant counting 2016-05-09T01:59:21 < metRo_> after 2016-05-09T01:59:25 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-09T01:59:36 < metRo_> 100ns between each count 2016-05-09T01:59:48 < Sync> at best 100counts per cycle 2016-05-09T01:59:59 < Sync> no problems there 2016-05-09T02:00:14 < metRo_> 100 counts per cycle? 2016-05-09T02:00:52 < Sync> your pid frequency is 100Hz 2016-05-09T02:01:04 < Sync> so at maximum speed you will get 100 ticks per cycle 2016-05-09T02:01:10 < metRo_> right 2016-05-09T02:01:15 < Sync> so you will not run the risk of overflowing 2016-05-09T02:02:47 < Rob235_> I should take a break, my brain stopped working 2016-05-09T02:03:25 < metRo_> but per example I can't run my PID at 1khz 2016-05-09T02:03:46 < Sync> you can 2016-05-09T02:03:55 < metRo_> but for slower speeds 2016-05-09T02:04:20 < metRo_> at 1khz I get 10 counts per cycle at 500rpm 2016-05-09T02:04:33 < Sync> you just have to remember when the last tick came 2016-05-09T02:04:35 < metRo_> but at 5rpm I got 0.1 counts 2016-05-09T02:04:47 < Sync> youet the same resolution as if you would be couting pulses with a timer 2016-05-09T02:05:35 < metRo_> didn't understand :s 2016-05-09T02:06:12 < Sync> you will have to remember when the last change happened if you are turning too slow to get a change every pid update 2016-05-09T02:06:13 < metRo_> I would get no count from a cycle to another I I'll measure vel = 0 2016-05-09T02:06:24 < Sync> yes 2016-05-09T02:06:28 < Sync> you will get quantization 2016-05-09T02:06:38 < Sync> the same is true if you measure distance between pulses 2016-05-09T02:07:00 < metRo_> you're right 2016-05-09T02:07:25 < Sync> that is why you need a velocity observer 2016-05-09T02:07:30 < Sync> or a higher resolving encoder 2016-05-09T02:09:44 < metRo_> got it 2016-05-09T02:10:36 -!- crt_ [7bf38b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T02:11:25 < metRo_> going back to my initial question :p 2016-05-09T02:12:20 < metRo_> can I use the encoder peripheral to fire events to start other timers per example? 2016-05-09T02:12:39 < Sync> yes 2016-05-09T02:13:04 < metRo_> how? 2016-05-09T02:13:11 < Sync> read the reference manual 2016-05-09T02:13:16 < metRo_> I didn't find a interrupt that I can use there 2016-05-09T02:13:54 < metRo_> if I have a interrupt for each count I could use it to start the counter 2016-05-09T02:15:02 < metRo_> I need to go 2016-05-09T02:15:08 < metRo_> thank you for your input Sync 2016-05-09T02:17:16 < Sync> first pump of the day? 2016-05-09T02:17:19 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T02:34:00 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-09T02:40:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T02:51:45 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@h-9-210.a357.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T02:59:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T03:09:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T03:10:24 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:11:29 < Rob235_> blah, layer blending finished 2016-05-09T03:11:47 < Rob235_> Not sure if there's anything else to do until testing 2016-05-09T03:13:28 < upgrdman> TIL there are MLCC caps rated for 1kV 2016-05-09T03:13:29 < upgrdman> https://www.vishay.com/docs/45058/hvarc.pdf 2016-05-09T03:14:05 < ReadError> jpa- ping 2016-05-09T03:14:07 < upgrdman> oh, even 1.5kV ratings too 2016-05-09T03:14:23 < Thorn> only c0g? 2016-05-09T03:14:32 < Thorn> makes sense 2016-05-09T03:15:29 < aandrew> yeah 15 years ago I used 2kV rated ceramic capacitors 2016-05-09T03:15:33 < aandrew> that's not new ;-) 2016-05-09T03:15:46 < aandrew> maybe not quite 15, but close 2016-05-09T03:16:21 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-09T03:16:51 < upgrdman> MLCC 2016-05-09T03:16:52 < upgrdman> ? 2016-05-09T03:17:02 < upgrdman> high voltage ceramics are easy. but SMD ones ? 2016-05-09T03:17:05 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-09T03:17:17 < upgrdman> i have a fuckton of PTH ceramics at work rated for like 20kV IIRC 2016-05-09T03:17:34 < upgrdman> err 10kV 2016-05-09T03:20:03 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-09T03:20:21 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:20:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:21:10 < ReadError> are they like 0.0001pF ? 2016-05-09T03:21:15 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:21:20 < ReadError> or $$$$$$$$$$ 2016-05-09T03:21:30 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-09T03:21:32 < upgrdman> 100pF IIRC 2016-05-09T03:21:46 < upgrdman> no idea on price, but we have tons of them, so prolly not too pricey 2016-05-09T03:22:06 < upgrdman> they just looks like huge MOVs 2016-05-09T03:22:32 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:28:31 < upgrdman> actually, 1nF now that i think about 2016-05-09T03:29:58 < upgrdman> hmm guess theyre not too pricey. here's a 10kV 1nF cap for <$2 each http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Murata-Electronics/DHR4E4A102K2BB/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsh%252b1woXyUXj1x7V7otxfzijw5nhFnjQt4%3d 2016-05-09T03:30:13 < upgrdman> $0.44 each in bulk 2016-05-09T03:33:29 < dongs> http://controllino.biz/ attn zyp 2016-05-09T03:35:42 < Sync> dongs: do you happen to know what 405rg stms run in china? 2016-05-09T03:35:57 < dongs> i can ask in 30 mins 2016-05-09T03:36:23 < dongs> whats RG, 2meg 64lqfp? 2016-05-09T03:39:11 < Sync> 1meg 64lqfp, yeah dongs 2016-05-09T03:39:31 -!- emeb [~ericb@174-17-34-154.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-09T03:46:20 < Rob235> ws2812.h: http://pastebin.com/neDAnGPu ws2812.c: http://pastebin.com/J4GCfUUx No idea if it works yet but it's good to test 2016-05-09T03:51:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:52:29 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/a/9etme 2016-05-09T03:55:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T03:58:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T03:58:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-09T04:15:26 -!- kow_ [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T04:17:18 < dongs> sync, around 4.5 and less with qty 2016-05-09T04:17:39 < Sync> ah 2016-05-09T04:17:41 < Sync> k 2016-05-09T04:18:09 < Sync> noice 2016-05-09T04:18:24 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-09T04:18:39 < aandrew> upgrdman: yeah these were like 2012 sized SMT ceramics 2016-05-09T04:19:00 < aandrew> put it between circuit common and PE with a 1Mohm in parallel 2016-05-09T04:19:31 < upgrdman> o cool 2016-05-09T04:24:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T04:25:36 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T04:28:41 < upgrdman> what are those mechanical type keyboard switches that are super awesome other than Cherry's. iirc there some capacitive switches from some jap corp? 2016-05-09T04:32:43 < dongs> does cherry actually exist 2016-05-09T04:32:55 < dongs> i thought it was some ancient thing that went out of busines years ago but people still scam using that name 2016-05-09T04:33:05 < dongs> like if you try to find any datashets they're all from like 20 years ago 2016-05-09T04:34:59 -!- jafa_ [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T04:39:44 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T04:40:09 < dongs> what hte hell avnet website went all web 2.faggot 2016-05-09T04:41:08 < jafa_> does cubeMX support stm8 MCUs? 2016-05-09T04:41:11 < dongs> no 2016-05-09T04:41:34 < jafa_> cubeMX only supports stm32? 2016-05-09T04:41:42 < dongs> Avnet Express Chat is currently unavailable. 2016-05-09T04:41:43 < dongs> Please leave a message and we will reply to you on the next business day. 2016-05-09T04:41:51 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d42d95.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-09T04:42:10 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d41de9.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T04:42:26 < dongs> clicking orders, waiting 30+ seconds 2016-05-09T04:42:31 < dongs> what a fucking shitheap 2016-05-09T04:45:52 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-09T04:45:58 < dongs> if you dont mind aids 2016-05-09T04:46:04 < dongs> and non-standard C++ 2016-05-09T04:46:23 < dongs> QT has C++ extensions that must be processed by a preprocessor 2016-05-09T04:46:25 < dongs> before compiling 2016-05-09T04:46:41 < dongs> so that. 2016-05-09T04:47:48 < dongs> beacuse they're morons 2016-05-09T04:50:38 < dongs> um 2016-05-09T04:53:16 < dongs> tiem to get to work, not gonna argue about lunix trash 2016-05-09T04:56:32 < dongs> no you idiot, nothing crossplatform "just works" 2016-05-09T04:56:47 < dongs> crossplatform = works like shit on every supported platform 2016-05-09T04:56:49 < dongs> thats what it means 2016-05-09T04:59:27 < Rob235> I use transmission-qt on windows and it's garbage but I like transmission so I still use it 2016-05-09T05:01:34 < Rob235> bitorrent client 2016-05-09T05:03:01 < upgrdman> so i recall trying to learn about kalman filters a while ago, and i gave up. anyone know of like an awesome idiot-proof explanation? im about to start poking youtube 2016-05-09T05:06:12 < upgrdman> i want to combine 9DOF inputs and output a decent-ish orientation 2016-05-09T05:06:17 < upgrdman> and i want to UNDERSTNAD what im doing 2016-05-09T05:06:27 < upgrdman> i dont want to copy code form dickexchange 2016-05-09T05:06:35 < upgrdman> from* 2016-05-09T05:07:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T05:07:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-09T05:07:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-09T05:09:18 < Rob235> the ahrs/madgwick is a form of kalman isn't it? 2016-05-09T05:11:05 < Rob235> I'm using one somewhere, I don't remember if I understand it or not though :) 2016-05-09T05:11:30 < Rob235> I think for the bmp280 pressure sensor? 2016-05-09T05:15:33 < aandrew> R2COM: no 2016-05-09T05:15:52 < aandrew> R2COM: it just means that the code for the UI is reasonably easy to port 2016-05-09T05:15:54 < upgrdman> R2COM, thx. 2016-05-09T05:15:57 < aandrew> (your Qt question) 2016-05-09T05:16:22 < aandrew> i.e. your event loops and display code and positioning etc shouldn't have to be changed between platforms 2016-05-09T05:16:22 < upgrdman> wtf is it with the weird font used in many academic shits. is that like default LaTyX styleshit or someshit 2016-05-09T05:16:36 < aandrew> the backend stuff still needs to be written to work on multiple platforms 2016-05-09T05:16:45 < aandrew> yes, it's native 2016-05-09T05:20:22 < aandrew> I don't know that 2016-05-09T05:20:51 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-09T05:21:49 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T05:23:26 < upgrdman> whats the diff between heading and attitude? 2016-05-09T05:23:58 < Rob235> heading is yaw, heading usually implies use of magnetometer to get heading relative to earth 2016-05-09T05:24:11 < Rob235> attitude is the whole orientation 2016-05-09T05:25:39 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-09T05:29:20 < upgrdman> i just vmware it 2016-05-09T05:29:37 < dongs> vmware that shit, lol who the fuck would put lunix on anytrhing modern 2016-05-09T05:29:40 < dongs> yes 2016-05-09T05:29:42 < upgrdman> if lunix catches up on display scaling and smooth scrolling, i might try dual booting it 2016-05-09T05:29:48 < dongs> lunix doesnt even support any modern hardware 2016-05-09T05:29:57 < dongs> they're still busy supporting now obsolete chipsets from liek 2005 2016-05-09T05:30:07 < upgrdman> R2COM, ya, i um lunix 2016-05-09T05:30:26 < upgrdman> s/um/vm 2016-05-09T05:31:13 < upgrdman> vm dickstation FTW 2016-05-09T05:31:21 < Rob235> being able to vm my bootcamp partition is possibly my favorite thing 2016-05-09T05:32:04 < dongs> sucks to be a macfag 2016-05-09T05:32:19 < Rob235> no it doesn't 2016-05-09T05:33:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T05:33:13 < upgrdman> dunno. wtf do you do in lunix that needs gpu 2016-05-09T05:33:20 < upgrdman> you a lunix gaymer? 2016-05-09T05:33:28 < dongs> lunix dfoesnt support GPU at all 2016-05-09T05:33:36 < dongs> software rendering 2016-05-09T05:33:39 < dongs> like libmesa or some otehr shit 2016-05-09T05:33:47 < dongs> whatever hte fuck is new now 2016-05-09T05:33:54 < dongs> liblunixshittysoftwarerendering0.1.so 2016-05-09T05:35:42 < dongs> ask john carmack 2016-05-09T05:35:47 < dongs> hes the only one who cares bout deadGL 2016-05-09T05:41:29 < upgrdman> sigs? 2016-05-09T05:42:05 < dongs> e-cigs 2016-05-09T05:45:06 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.81.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T05:49:26 < dongs> R2COM: vmware does GPU passthrough or somethingo 2016-05-09T05:49:31 < dongs> for windows host/guest 2016-05-09T05:49:34 < dongs> no idea what happens on linsux 2016-05-09T05:49:54 < dongs> there's some level of directx passtrhough that can happen under windows 2016-05-09T05:56:54 < upgrdman> hmm? like uint8_t? 2016-05-09T05:57:04 < dongs> is ohsix stoning? 2016-05-09T05:57:08 < dongs> must be. 2016-05-09T06:00:20 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T06:01:12 < upgrdman> i understood some of those words 2016-05-09T06:07:19 < upgrdman> is the data output rate from a GPS slow because of lots of math, or is that some artifically crippled thing 2016-05-09T06:07:32 < upgrdman> like, why cant you get data from a GPS at like 100Hz or 1kHz 2016-05-09T06:07:58 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.81.46] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-09T06:13:51 < Rob235> I'm sure it would go faster if it could 2016-05-09T06:14:05 < Rob235> power consumption is probably a concern too 2016-05-09T06:14:42 < Rob235> why would you want it faster though? 2016-05-09T06:15:04 < Rob235> how slow is it? 2016-05-09T06:16:31 < Rob235> 10 hz I'm guessing 2016-05-09T06:16:41 < Rob235> just looked it up and that's what mine is 2016-05-09T06:17:14 < Rob235> how far are you going to move in a tenth of a second? 2016-05-09T06:30:55 < upgrdman> ya i know thatr 2016-05-09T06:31:30 < upgrdman> Rob235, just curious really. reading up on kalman filters, and they obviously bring up GPS and its +'s and -'s 2016-05-09T06:32:04 < Rob235> haven't seen kalman with gps yet 2016-05-09T06:37:20 < Rob235> I only tried mine inside by a window and it drifted like crazy 2016-05-09T06:39:37 < Bright> i told you i would stay 2016-05-09T06:46:14 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T06:46:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T07:05:50 < upgrdman> TrAMP_STAMP amirite 2016-05-09T07:18:35 < dongs> get high 2016-05-09T07:18:56 < dongs> where the fuck is my bomb 2016-05-09T07:19:25 < dongs> how fucking long does it take to truck 400kg from osaka to my shithole 2016-05-09T07:21:17 < dongs> no 2016-05-09T07:22:00 < dongs> unless you're getting 4 in raid6 2016-05-09T07:22:28 < dongs> no 2016-05-09T07:22:35 < dongs> i mean get 4 8tb and raid6 them. 2016-05-09T07:23:12 < dongs> beacuse you need minimum 4 drives for raid6 2016-05-09T07:23:19 < dongs> your total array will be 16tb. 2016-05-09T07:23:36 < dongs> because that 8tb will crash and you have no data. 2016-05-09T07:24:26 < jadew> I keep my pictures on 2 Tb drives in raid 1 2016-05-09T07:24:52 < Rob235> I just got a 4, didn't want to spend the extra 90 for 2TB 2016-05-09T07:24:54 < jadew> same for my work, but lower capacity drives 2016-05-09T07:25:46 < jadew> R2COM, in the past via a controller 2016-05-09T07:25:46 < dongs> R2COM: single anythign > 2tb = no 2016-05-09T07:25:52 < jadew> these days, motherboards can do it 2016-05-09T07:26:26 < dongs> motherboards do raid6? 2016-05-09T07:26:28 < dongs> since when 2016-05-09T07:26:35 < jadew> don't know about raid6 2016-05-09T07:26:41 < jadew> but they can do some kind of raid 2016-05-09T07:27:04 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/3Bpbf0a.jpg?1 2016-05-09T07:27:06 < dongs> jadew: 5 is max i tihnk on intel raid stuff 2016-05-09T07:27:57 < dongs> i use areca cards. 2016-05-09T07:28:44 < jadew> more importantly, do I get a vitamix 5200 or a pro 750? 2016-05-09T07:28:45 < dongs> ARC-1214-4I would work for you 2016-05-09T07:29:07 < dongs> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151136 2016-05-09T07:29:28 < dongs> you can manage it out of band 2016-05-09T07:29:32 < dongs> when your PC is dead 2016-05-09T07:29:36 < dongs> you can still rebuild raid 2016-05-09T07:38:58 -!- jafa_ [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-09T07:42:29 < dongs> R2COM: with sata cables 2016-05-09T07:42:56 < dongs> thats SFF8088 or whatever 2016-05-09T07:42:59 < dongs> it breaks out into 4 sata 2016-05-09T07:43:13 < dongs> see the piucs 2016-05-09T07:43:15 < dongs> pics 2016-05-09T07:43:19 < dongs> 'mini sas to sata cable' 2016-05-09T07:43:22 < dongs> yes if you wanna keep your data 2016-05-09T07:43:40 < dongs> sure, just hope they both dont die at same time 2016-05-09T07:48:02 < jadew> I'm having a very hard time finding an enclosure for my project, I can either get one that's too small and makes the board very difficult to route + requires a bigger shielding can 2016-05-09T07:48:26 < jadew> or I can get one that's too large and requires extra cables, which further increases the price 2016-05-09T07:48:54 < dongs> jadew: http://www.takachi-enclosure.com/data/products.html anything here that fits your shit 2016-05-09T07:49:08 < jadew> checking 2016-05-09T07:49:10 < jadew> thanks 2016-05-09T07:49:13 < dongs> thats my one-stop shop for awesome enclosures 2016-05-09T07:49:48 < jadew> they look interesting 2016-05-09T07:50:23 < dongs> i use MX, MXA, HEN alu series 2016-05-09T07:50:35 < dongs> http://www.takachi-enclosure.com/data/p_02aluminum.html 2016-05-09T07:51:11 < kakimir> Laurenceb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw 2016-05-09T07:51:23 < jadew> dongs, that's where I was looking 2016-05-09T07:53:07 < jadew> dongs, they're awesome 2016-05-09T07:53:53 < upgrdman> hmm. 1TB google drive is just $10/month 2016-05-09T07:53:54 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T07:54:23 < dongs> jadew: i fully agree 2016-05-09T07:54:45 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T07:55:16 < kakimir> upgrdman: did you run out of space? 2016-05-09T07:55:24 < upgrdman> "kinda" 2016-05-09T07:55:32 < upgrdman> im using like 12GB of my 15GB 2016-05-09T07:55:42 < dongs> doesnt america have shitty broadband 2016-05-09T07:55:50 < dongs> it would take years to sync 1tb of shit int ocloud garbage 2016-05-09T07:55:56 < upgrdman> not great, but workable 2016-05-09T07:55:57 < dongs> just raid more hdds 2016-05-09T07:55:57 < kakimir> yes total riboff 2016-05-09T07:56:00 < PeterM> upgrdman, isnt there somethign with a better interface than google drive? 2016-05-09T07:56:09 < dongs> yeah its called local storage 2016-05-09T07:56:13 < dongs> i dont even use google shitdrive 2016-05-09T07:56:17 < upgrdman> PeterM, not if i dont want to dick with making it reliable 2016-05-09T07:56:23 < dongs> the only time i "use" it is when I accidentally fucking click "save to drive" shit in gmail 2016-05-09T07:56:29 < upgrdman> err NOT dick with... 2016-05-09T07:56:30 < dongs> because its an immediate action without confirm 2016-05-09T07:56:36 < PeterM> upgrdman, are you sure? 2016-05-09T07:57:15 < upgrdman> PeterM, how else will i get reliable storage with ~guaranteed no data loss ever 2016-05-09T07:57:17 < jadew> dongs, what kind of prices should I expect? 2016-05-09T07:57:32 < dongs> jadew: like 3-6bux/enclosure I guess 2016-05-09T07:57:36 < dongs> dpending on size/stuff 2016-05-09T07:57:40 < upgrdman> unless i want to jump through hoops of doing it myself. colocation, raid, ups, etc. 2016-05-09T07:57:49 < jadew> dongs, got it, so resonable 2016-05-09T07:57:50 < dongs> i usualyl buy htem in 50s or so 2016-05-09T07:57:55 < dongs> 50pcs 2016-05-09T07:58:13 < jadew> I'm looking for something like 150x50x100 2016-05-09T07:58:44 < dongs> yeah there's some rounded one that is around that size. all mine are small tho, so i think bigger will be more $ but duno how much more 2016-05-09T07:58:53 < PeterM> upgrdman, amazon s3? box? onedrive? dropbox? backblaze? 2016-05-09T07:59:02 < dongs> stonerblaze 2016-05-09T07:59:02 < jadew> yeah, if they're pretty I don't mind paying up to $20 2016-05-09T07:59:20 < dongs> just check through catalog/drawings, they have a bunch of sized 2016-05-09T07:59:25 < dongs> with and without PCB guides inside case 2016-05-09T07:59:42 < upgrdman> PeterM, how would those have a better interface than gdrive 2016-05-09T07:59:42 < jadew> nice, it looks like they have european distributors too, which is good 2016-05-09T07:59:54 < upgrdman> gdrive is like an app for idiots. super easy. 2016-05-09T08:00:08 < PeterM> upgrdman, nah the permissions shit on gdrive is a cunt 2016-05-09T08:00:27 < dongs> what the fuck do you evne store on it 2016-05-09T08:00:29 < dongs> like seriously 2016-05-09T08:00:33 < dongs> whats the use case 2016-05-09T08:00:41 < dongs> can't put anything top secret/important on there 2016-05-09T08:00:46 < dongs> just random shit to pass to people on irc? 2016-05-09T08:00:50 < dongs> those you can just upload + link + delete 2016-05-09T08:01:01 < PeterM> dropbox is probably the easiest but its a bit spensive and not really scalable 2016-05-09T08:01:08 < jadew> I used google drive for work to share lists and various documents 2016-05-09T08:01:24 < dongs> your work didnt have company network? 2016-05-09T08:01:34 < PeterM> s3 is the cheapest $/data but requires some searchign for a decent client or just use the web api 2016-05-09T08:01:42 < jadew> google provides a bunch of other services too 2016-05-09T08:01:47 < PeterM> box is a good intermediate 2016-05-09T08:01:51 < jadew> so gdrive is just a step away 2016-05-09T08:01:54 < PeterM> onedrive and backblaze are jsut ??? 2016-05-09T08:02:24 < dongs> onedrive: that thing you remove first right after installing win10 2016-05-09T08:02:46 < jadew> I think the reason we went for google drive is because people could edit the same document at the same time 2016-05-09T08:02:50 < upgrdman> dongs, i use gdrive for any data i dont want to lose. code, docs, etc. 2016-05-09T08:02:55 < dongs> .,.. 2016-05-09T08:02:57 < jadew> I mean for google services 2016-05-09T08:03:08 < jadew> upgrdman, you shouldn't put code on gdrive 2016-05-09T08:03:12 < jadew> unless it's opensource 2016-05-09T08:03:12 < dongs> upgrdman: thats hilarious because google has been known to terminate projects 2016-05-09T08:03:16 < upgrdman> PeterM, permissions is a cunt how? 2016-05-09T08:03:18 < PeterM> heh, they changed the pricing on dropbox since i last used it, much cheaper now 2016-05-09T08:03:29 < dongs> without much notice too 2016-05-09T08:03:42 < upgrdman> dongs, it's synced to my hdd. i have a copy. and its not like Drive is a nitch toy project for google. 2016-05-09T08:03:57 < jadew> dongs, funny thing about terminating services is that I had a google account since they first launched their applications 2016-05-09T08:04:05 < dongs> R2COM: duno, i bought 32gb for like $80 2016-05-09T08:04:07 < jadew> and everything was free 2016-05-09T08:04:12 < upgrdman> jadew, re: code, why 2016-05-09T08:04:16 < jadew> and for me, it still is 2016-05-09T08:04:22 < dongs> dont need more than 32h 2016-05-09T08:04:24 < upgrdman> i know they use their shit to analyze my shit and serve ads 2016-05-09T08:04:25 < upgrdman> but 2016-05-09T08:04:38 < upgrdman> its not like they claim copyright on shit in gdrive 2016-05-09T08:04:39 < jadew> upgrdman, because you usually don't want thrid parties to look through your secret stuff 2016-05-09T08:05:04 < upgrdman> well ya. nothing super "secret" is in my gdrive 2016-05-09T08:05:14 < upgrdman> but if needed, that's what encryption is for 2016-05-09T08:05:16 < jadew> it's why I never used the company's github account, even tho the projects were private 2016-05-09T08:05:26 < jadew> I didn't want those jerks to look at our code 2016-05-09T08:05:26 < upgrdman> whether its on my hdd or googles 2016-05-09T08:06:42 < jadew> I think gdrive was launched as a response to another unofficial gdrive :) 2016-05-09T08:06:57 < jadew> someone wrote something that would store shit in google email addresses 2016-05-09T08:07:05 < upgrdman> ya i know about that 2016-05-09T08:07:12 < upgrdman> there was even a Gnome app to exploit that 2016-05-09T08:07:18 < jadew> hehe 2016-05-09T08:07:22 < upgrdman> or Nautilus plugin or whatever it was 2016-05-09T08:08:03 < jadew> I remember I once found a public email address on a forum 2016-05-09T08:08:09 < jadew> where people would put music lol 2016-05-09T08:08:40 < PeterM> oh, another thing is with gdrive, you can't generate links direct to files, so say i upload file.zip, if i give someone https://drive.google.com/open?id=IDGOESHERE link it will just try to display the zip in the browser, i would much prefer them to click the link and it goes "save or cancle" shit 2016-05-09T08:09:26 < dongs> you should get the cehapest ram beacuse gamer spec is just fretarded 2016-05-09T08:09:54 < PeterM> i dont think there are any modules that fast, you'd probably have to overclock em to go that fast, also, prefromace from overclockign ram is pretty negligable 2016-05-09T08:11:09 < jadew> PeterM, depends on what you're doing I guess 2016-05-09T08:11:10 < dongs> R2COM: cheapest samsung 16gb modules 2016-05-09T08:11:23 < dongs> DDR4-2133 2016-05-09T08:11:44 < dongs> M378A2K43BB1-CPB 2016-05-09T08:12:16 < PeterM> jadew no not really, often you have to slack off the timings to get faster clock and you lose profrmance with hgiher timings and that usually doesnt make up for what you gain in extra clock speed 2016-05-09T08:12:30 < dongs> overclocking in general is dumb 2016-05-09T08:12:34 < dongs> ram or cpu or wahtever teh fuck 2016-05-09T08:12:58 < dongs> cocksucker vengeance 2016-05-09T08:13:07 < dongs> looks ok, R2COM 2016-05-09T08:13:12 < dongs> not too retarded heatsinks either 2016-05-09T08:13:14 < dongs> get it. 2016-05-09T08:13:27 < dongs> doesnt have the JAWZ 2016-05-09T08:13:27 < jadew> clocksucker 2016-05-09T08:14:23 < jadew> do you need that much? 2016-05-09T08:14:35 < dongs> cheapest ram brand = best 2016-05-09T08:14:35 < jadew> R2COM, it's overhyped 2016-05-09T08:14:50 < jadew> and overpriced maybe 2016-05-09T08:14:57 < dongs> jadew: that price looks ok 2016-05-09T08:15:03 < dongs> 60/16gb 2016-05-09T08:15:11 < jadew> dongs, don't know, speaking in general about their stuff 2016-05-09T08:15:19 < jadew> I have a power supply from them that sucks 2016-05-09T08:17:12 < dongs> how the fuck can power supply suck 2016-05-09T08:17:19 < dongs> i bought the cheapest shit i could find years ago 2016-05-09T08:17:21 < dongs> and it works fine 2016-05-09T08:17:28 < jadew> it's very noisy, RF wise 2016-05-09T08:17:34 < dongs> don't do RF near it 2016-05-09T08:17:38 < dongs> problem solved 2016-05-09T08:17:46 < jadew> I pick it up with my oscilloscope 2016-05-09T08:18:22 < PeterM> jadew sure you didnt get dodgy eastern european knock off corsair PSU? 2016-05-09T08:18:22 < jadew> the circuits I test pick it up and it ends up in the measurements 2016-05-09T08:18:55 < jadew> not to mention if I probe a USB device 2016-05-09T08:19:05 < jadew> PeterM, don't know 2016-05-09T08:19:43 < dongs> http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/089/1089647/sm3_640x480.jpg 2016-05-09T08:19:51 < dongs> did yall notice 2016-05-09T08:20:00 < dongs> DDR4 dimms are curvy contacts 2016-05-09T08:20:16 < dongs> http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/089/1089646/sm2_640x480.jpg 2016-05-09T08:20:20 < dongs> more visible here 2016-05-09T08:20:40 < dongs> there's liek a slight convex 2016-05-09T08:22:36 < lorenzo> dongs: yeah the outer contacts are shorter for some reason 2016-05-09T08:22:55 < dongs> rite 2016-05-09T08:23:10 < lorenzo> http://www.hardwareheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/crucial-ddr4-2133-32gb.jpg 2016-05-09T08:23:26 < dongs> nice hirespic 2016-05-09T08:23:44 < lorenzo> I wonder if the slot is curved too 2016-05-09T08:23:46 < lorenzo> to lock in nicely 2016-05-09T08:24:03 < dongs> i thought puerto rico was a shithole 2016-05-09T08:24:07 < dongs> how can they make ram in there 2016-05-09T08:24:11 < dongs> poor mexican shithole 2016-05-09T08:24:52 < dongs> like seriosuly its a fucking shitty island. how does it make sense to setup pcba factory there 2016-05-09T08:24:55 < dongs> you'd have to fly in PCB + parts = shit 2016-05-09T08:25:06 < dongs> or boat them or someshit 2016-05-09T08:25:13 < dongs> its liek 10km across 2016-05-09T08:25:47 < dongs> cant imagine 2016-05-09T08:26:14 < dongs> ya cuz thats totally related to ram manufacturing 2016-05-09T08:28:28 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Portable-65W-Programmable-TS100-Electric-Soldering-Iron-Digital-LCD-DI-/172160972220 it's like 10euros les than second cheapest 2016-05-09T08:30:22 < dongs> yes 2016-05-09T08:30:48 < upgrdman> ohsix, how fast 2016-05-09T08:31:10 < dongs> as fast as /ignore goes 2016-05-09T08:32:35 < upgrdman> kakimir, that looks super non ergonomic. like no finger slip guard, wtf 2016-05-09T08:32:42 < lorenzo> stm32f303k8 is pretty good yeah 2016-05-09T08:32:57 < upgrdman> ohsix, htf do you ever process 5MSps with a 160MHz mcu 2016-05-09T08:33:02 < dongs> K8 is the qfp32 or someshit? 2016-05-09T08:33:02 < upgrdman> or however many MHz it is 2016-05-09T08:33:04 < dongs> tarduino-sized 2016-05-09T08:34:32 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-09T08:35:08 < dongs> worlds largest troll selection 2016-05-09T08:36:17 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-09T08:38:03 < emeb_mac> f303 parts only run the CPU @ 72MHz 2016-05-09T08:38:34 < emeb_mac> but it is a full Cortex M4F, so it's got the FPU and "dsp" 2016-05-09T08:38:59 < emeb_mac> I've used them for a few products - nice as far as they go, but a bit underpowered. 2016-05-09T08:39:32 < upgrdman> emeb_mac, fpu is single-precision right? 2016-05-09T08:39:39 < emeb_mac> upgrdman: yes 2016-05-09T08:39:42 < upgrdman> and f7 is also single-precision right? 2016-05-09T08:40:12 < emeb_mac> Yes, AFAIK, but it may have some double stuff. 2016-05-09T08:40:28 < emeb_mac> I've only used single on F7 so far 2016-05-09T08:40:42 < upgrdman> some = certain f7's? 2016-05-09T08:40:43 < kakimir> I wonder if you get lipo guard with the thing in firmware 2016-05-09T08:42:48 < emeb_mac> looks like F7 is single only 2016-05-09T08:43:10 < emeb_mac> not that you really need double in most cases. 2016-05-09T08:43:31 < upgrdman> just installed latest atom. wtf. why dont they use any icons in the menus 2016-05-09T08:43:40 < emeb_mac> not like you're using embedded processors to compute the national debt. 2016-05-09T08:43:41 < upgrdman> fucking web devs don't know how to software :/ 2016-05-09T08:47:36 < dongs> icons on menus? 2016-05-09T08:47:36 < dongs> wat 2016-05-09T08:47:55 < dongs> sounds like uiseless shit 2016-05-09T08:48:07 < upgrdman> text editor 2016-05-09T08:48:10 < upgrdman> and it sucks ass 2016-05-09T08:51:23 < upgrdman> LOL @ photo on vim website http://www.vim.org/ 2016-05-09T08:51:27 < upgrdman> ^ dongs 2016-05-09T08:51:45 < dongs> fuckin niggers 2016-05-09T08:52:37 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-09T08:53:08 < dongs> what the hell is butotn head bolt 2016-05-09T08:53:12 < dongs> is that the rounded one? 2016-05-09T08:53:20 < upgrdman> kinda 2016-05-09T08:53:32 < dongs> pics seem to agree 2016-05-09T08:53:32 < dongs> 'kay 2016-05-09T08:54:08 < upgrdman> dongs, http://www.mutualscrew.com/blog/assets/content/heads.jpg 2016-05-09T08:54:51 < upgrdman> even better http://www.oocities.org/dtmcbride/home_garden/images/bolts-type.gif 2016-05-09T08:59:29 < upgrdman> hd280? 2016-05-09T08:59:51 < dongs> autism280 2016-05-09T09:00:02 < upgrdman> the threaded one 2016-05-09T09:00:26 < upgrdman> because dongie was asking about head 2016-05-09T09:00:51 < dongs> R2COM: cuz i asked about screw type 2016-05-09T09:00:58 < dongs> < dongs> what the hell is butotn head bolt 2016-05-09T09:00:59 < upgrdman> me too 2016-05-09T09:01:12 < upgrdman> ohsix, i love the hd280 but now im used to earbuds 2016-05-09T09:01:25 < upgrdman> i get pissed when circumaural shitz head up my ears 2016-05-09T09:01:33 < upgrdman> music 2016-05-09T09:01:38 < dongs> if onyl headphones could block noisy irc chats 2016-05-09T09:01:42 < upgrdman> hd280 is very nice 2016-05-09T09:02:05 < upgrdman> i should bring em to .cn the next winter i end up there 2016-05-09T09:02:12 < upgrdman> would make great ear mufs 2016-05-09T09:02:52 < upgrdman> yes, the big 1/4" plugs would work well for that 2016-05-09T09:03:55 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-09T09:19:45 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d41de9.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-09T09:23:00 < dongs> emeb_mac: awke? 2016-05-09T09:23:09 < emeb_mac> dongs: ya 2016-05-09T09:23:36 < dongs> emeb_mac: wonering if any way to have dac output as either gpio or dac 2016-05-09T09:23:56 < dongs> if I put like amp on it and also just a nfet, when its in gpio mode, does that just work? 2016-05-09T09:24:33 < emeb_mac> dongs: probably make the amp unhappy 2016-05-09T09:24:47 < dongs> right cuz its gonna be solid high or low 2016-05-09T09:24:50 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T09:24:55 < dongs> no way to hax it? 2016-05-09T09:25:23 < emeb_mac> put a CMOS switch inline to disconnect the amp 2016-05-09T09:26:08 < emeb_mac> you want it as both input and output? 2016-05-09T09:26:09 < dongs> what if I dont use amp 2016-05-09T09:26:15 < dongs> but just npn or something 2016-05-09T09:26:19 < dongs> or pnp i guess 2016-05-09T09:26:31 < dongs> no just output OR dac 2016-05-09T09:26:35 < dongs> output as in gio 2016-05-09T09:26:39 < dongs> gpio 2016-05-09T09:26:53 < emeb_mac> dongs: you can set the dac to the proper 1/0 voltages 2016-05-09T09:27:01 < emeb_mac> unless it's not fast enough 2016-05-09T09:27:19 < dongs> you mean to use it as output? 2016-05-09T09:27:25 < emeb_mac> ya 2016-05-09T09:27:44 < dongs> right, but if I wanted to switch something with higher current with that, so noramlly I'd connect that gpio to nfet or npn or something 2016-05-09T09:27:52 < dongs> but what hapepns when its variable voltage? 2016-05-09T09:27:58 < dongs> NPN gate stuff follows? 2016-05-09T09:28:17 < emeb_mac> depends on the design of the output 2016-05-09T09:28:34 < emeb_mac> you might get it to work nearly linear, but it would be a challenging design 2016-05-09T09:28:48 < dongs> cant be challenging, max 2-3 parts 2016-05-09T09:28:50 < emeb_mac> better to use a high-current op-amp 2016-05-09T09:28:57 < dongs> hmm 2016-05-09T09:29:51 < emeb_mac> what kind of current out you need? 2016-05-09T09:29:58 < emeb_mac> and what voltage range? 2016-05-09T09:30:13 < dongs> i was hoping something similar to what I'd do with opendrain output 2016-05-09T09:30:23 < dongs> high goes to 5-12V and the stuff connects it to gnd 2016-05-09T09:31:39 < dongs> but if I cant combine gpio with dac liek that I might as well waste noahter pin for this 2016-05-09T09:32:21 < emeb_mac> dongs: that's probably easier 2016-05-09T09:32:50 < dongs> stm dac enough to drive line levels directly? 2016-05-09T09:32:53 < dongs> or need to buffer 2016-05-09T09:33:39 < emeb_mac> depends on what kind of load 2016-05-09T09:34:03 < dongs> line in i guess 2016-05-09T09:34:09 < dongs> like pc soundcard line in or someshit 2016-05-09T09:34:17 < dongs> normal shit 2016-05-09T09:34:18 < emeb_mac> probably fine. That's like 10k min 2016-05-09T09:34:28 < emeb_mac> DAC w/ buffer enabled can drive that 2016-05-09T09:35:52 < dongs> hokay 2016-05-09T09:35:58 < dongs> ah right it has some buffer 2016-05-09T09:36:02 < dongs> does that make it slower/something? 2016-05-09T09:36:21 < dongs> i think I tried using it on that F4 board and turnining it on/off made zero audible difference 2016-05-09T09:44:21 < jpa-> on F1 turning it off made it a tiny bit faster but made drive capability way lower 2016-05-09T09:44:52 < jpa-> but tiny bit faster only matters for freqs >100kHz so not audio 2016-05-09T09:47:33 < dongs> oh 2016-05-09T09:47:39 < dongs> yeah i was outputtin like 24kHz shit 2016-05-09T09:47:50 -!- metRo_ [5f887158@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.136.113.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-09T09:53:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T09:55:18 < emeb_mac> buffer is a bit slower and clips the max/min voltages slightly 2016-05-09T09:57:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-09T10:15:15 < dongs> HOLY KIKE SO MANY SELLERS ON SHITBAY DONT FUCKING SEND TO ALASKA 2016-05-09T10:15:18 < dongs> RACIST FUCKS 2016-05-09T10:16:34 < jadew> damn stupid companies, nowhere on their site it says where they're from 2016-05-09T10:16:44 < jadew> and the contact link is a form 2016-05-09T10:17:03 < jadew> luckly they have the phone number in the footer and it looks like US 2016-05-09T10:17:05 < dongs> israel 2016-05-09T10:17:22 < jadew> (no prefix either) 2016-05-09T10:19:02 < jadew> I wonder if romania produces shielding cans 2016-05-09T10:19:27 < jadew> not sure what to google for tho 2016-05-09T10:19:57 < jadew> I see 2016-05-09T10:20:03 < jadew> did you find any that were super cheap? 2016-05-09T10:20:14 < jadew> for custom jobs :D 2016-05-09T10:20:59 < jadew> yeah, there aren't many off the shelf options 2016-05-09T10:21:06 < jadew> farnell has some, but they're not big enough 2016-05-09T10:21:12 < jadew> the longest one is 38mm 2016-05-09T10:21:24 < jadew> I need a 100mm one 2016-05-09T10:22:06 < jadew> I'll check them out, thanks 2016-05-09T10:24:23 < jadew> I have a feeling I could find them cheap in romania too, but I'd probably have to go talk to someone 2016-05-09T10:24:28 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T10:24:30 < jadew> and I don't know that person 2016-05-09T10:24:52 < jadew> ah, usually no 2016-05-09T10:25:05 < jadew> but I've met a guy that repaired TVs that was a jerk 2016-05-09T10:25:13 < jadew> I asked if he has CCFL tubes 2016-05-09T10:25:28 < jadew> I thought you're stereotyping 2016-05-09T10:25:42 < jadew> but yeah, usually guys that work with metal are pretty cool 2016-05-09T10:25:58 < jadew> TV-repair types are douchebags 2016-05-09T10:26:31 < jadew> I had a couple of friends that did that and they were all scamming their customers 2016-05-09T10:27:13 < jadew> I remember a story about a guy who came to ask about his video-tape player after a couple of months and this guy just gave it back to him 2016-05-09T10:27:21 < jadew> now the customer noticed it was a bit light 2016-05-09T10:27:32 < jadew> so he told him 2016-05-09T10:27:53 < jadew> the repair guy was like "oh, right I forgot to put something back, come againt tomorrow" 2016-05-09T10:28:20 < jadew> the next day the guy came in for the player, it was "heavy" as expected 2016-05-09T10:28:28 < jadew> took it to another guy 2016-05-09T10:28:38 < jadew> inside a bunch of PCBs glued together lol 2016-05-09T10:30:58 < jadew> I'll check it out 2016-05-09T10:31:15 < dongs> warning: autism in progress 2016-05-09T10:33:17 < jadew> I heard another story about this guy's friend: guy walks in with a TV (CRT), the speakers were busted, he leaves but forgets his wallet. Comes back for the wallet to find the repair guy leaving with the tube from his TV :D 2016-05-09T10:33:32 < dongs> wat 2016-05-09T10:34:03 < jadew> the repair guy was going to replace his CRT tube with something else 2016-05-09T10:34:31 < jadew> his tube was fine tho, he came in for an issue with the speakers 2016-05-09T10:36:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T10:36:43 < jadew> this is the same guy who broke a bunch of diskettes by dropping a grenade on them 2016-05-09T10:37:10 < jadew> (by mistake - it fell off of his desk) 2016-05-09T10:37:36 < dongs> do tehy still have tube TVS in romania 2016-05-09T10:37:53 < jadew> maybe, I don't know 2016-05-09T10:38:07 < jadew> this was happening 15 years ago 2016-05-09T10:38:12 < jadew> maybe more 2016-05-09T10:45:41 < mitrax> reminds me of stories that happened to me with tv salesmen... 20 years ago i went to a local shop with my mom, i had my mind set on a specific sony trinitron model, it was demoed among others in a tv wall but the coax was not properly plugged or something so there was visible static noise over the picture, my mom asked me why the picture was bad, i told her it was just a bad cable but she 2016-05-09T10:45:41 < mitrax> couldn't help and asked the salesman when he came to us 2016-05-09T10:46:46 < mitrax> he stared at us for like 5 sec, you could hear his brain trying to figure some BS to say, then he went "oh, what you're seeing is the 'snowy grain' of sony CRT... some people like it, some don't, it's a matter of taste" 2016-05-09T10:47:07 < jadew> haha 2016-05-09T10:47:50 < jadew> lol, I remembered another one about this guy 2016-05-09T10:48:07 < jadew> he goes to repair a TV at someone's house 2016-05-09T10:48:39 < jadew> he opens it up, gets a screwdriver and shorts the filter cap 2016-05-09T10:49:11 < jadew> he does that a couple of times and he says "damn, this thing is super well charged" 2016-05-09T10:49:24 < jadew> he didn't plug the TV out 2016-05-09T10:49:25 < mitrax> it was still plugged? 2016-05-09T10:49:26 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-05-09T10:51:02 < jadew> I have more about this guys :P 2016-05-09T10:51:05 < jadew> *guy 2016-05-09T10:52:05 < jadew> another house call, he fixes the TV and the lady who's TV was invites him in the kitchen for a coffee, he says "give me a sec, to put the cover back on" 2016-05-09T10:52:24 < dongs> is that codeword for "lemme take my pants off" 2016-05-09T10:52:25 < jadew> the cover doesn't get in the first time, so he pushes harder 2016-05-09T10:52:38 < jadew> it fells off on the other side of the table 2016-05-09T10:52:39 < jadew> yeah :D 2016-05-09T10:53:39 < mitrax> did he still get to drink his coffee ? :) 2016-05-09T10:53:44 < jadew> haha 2016-05-09T10:54:05 < dongs> anyone ever used IR_OUT function 2016-05-09T10:56:09 < jadew> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Factory-Supply-EMI-Shielding-Material-RFID-Ripstop-Conductive-Fabric-For-Bags-RFID67-R/1000001395735.html 2016-05-09T10:56:15 < jadew> check out the last image 2016-05-09T10:56:55 < jadew> EMI shielding curtains 2016-05-09T10:57:27 < jadew> when a tin foil hat just won't do 2016-05-09T11:02:17 < dongs> lol wow zero examples of IRTIM in stdperiphlib 2016-05-09T11:02:19 < dongs> gg 2016-05-09T11:05:18 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-syxkvzqokhueaiet] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-09T11:07:05 < Lux> dongs: maybe that stuff is some help: https://github.com/j1rie/IRMP_STM32 2016-05-09T11:08:02 < dongs> i think that just bruteforces it 2016-05-09T11:08:13 < dongs> i wanted to dick around with actual IRTIM stuff that uses TIM16/17 2016-05-09T11:08:20 < dongs> i dont think either 103 or 105 have that peripheral 2016-05-09T11:08:54 < dongs> ill google it myself later, im just lazy as fuck 2016-05-09T11:10:12 < Lux> right, i think that stuff was just ported over from avr stuff 2016-05-09T11:10:46 < Lux> but sometimes those germans actually write good code, never looked at it 2016-05-09T11:12:30 < zyp> isn't IRTIM just an AND gate between two timer channels or something? 2016-05-09T11:12:44 < dongs> yea 2016-05-09T11:13:13 < dongs> also uart1/4 on 09x 2016-05-09T11:13:22 < zyp> ah, right 2016-05-09T11:13:47 < mitrax> can't find any example in the stm32cube shit either 2016-05-09T11:13:54 < dongs> ther arent any 2016-05-09T11:14:06 < dongs> there's some register-poking sample code in F0 refman 2016-05-09T11:14:08 < dongs> probly the only thing 2016-05-09T11:14:20 < dongs> For code example refer to the Appendix section A.10.1: TIM16 and TIM17 configuration 2016-05-09T11:14:23 < dongs> code example. 2016-05-09T11:15:55 < dongs> i wonder how flexible the carrier generation is 2016-05-09T11:16:31 < zyp> completely, I assume 2016-05-09T11:16:36 < zyp> since it's just gating a timer 2016-05-09T11:16:45 < dongs> ok so same shit i can do with a regular timer? 2016-05-09T11:17:19 < zyp> TIM16/TIM17 is regular timers, no? 2016-05-09T11:17:24 < dongs> as far as I know 2016-05-09T11:17:50 < zyp> probably with few functions compared to TIM2-4 and such, but still the same basics 2016-05-09T11:18:20 < zyp> but for IR, wouldn't you just set it to pwm, 50% duty, 38kHz or whatever that shit is? 2016-05-09T11:18:34 < dongs> different carrier but yeah 2016-05-09T11:19:29 < dongs> sample code sets it to 25% duty and 36khz 2016-05-09T11:19:29 < dongs> hehe 2016-05-09T11:23:59 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T11:34:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T11:37:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-09T11:51:58 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-09T11:53:24 < dongs> PeterM: in nonsync buck, does the diode need to be rated 2x the max VIN or something? 2016-05-09T11:53:28 < dongs> or tehse guys just trolling 2016-05-09T11:54:16 < dongs> Choose a diode who’s maximum reverse voltage rating is greater than the maximum input voltage, and who’s current rating is greater than the maximum load current. 2016-05-09T11:54:19 < dongs> thgats what i thought 2016-05-09T11:54:30 < dongs> not sure why these assholes spec'd 100V diode for 24V input 2016-05-09T12:03:04 < Ecco> Hey 2016-05-09T12:03:18 < Ecco> I've been reading about ESD 2016-05-09T12:03:21 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T12:04:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-09T12:05:08 < Ecco> Do you guys have any schematics I could get some inspiration from regarding ESD protection of an USB port? 2016-05-09T12:05:20 < dongs> lmgtfy 2016-05-09T12:05:34 < dongs> ecco, just pick whatever vendor ESD solution and they'll have a schematic 2016-05-09T12:05:38 < dongs> usually its some SOT23-6 inline thing 2016-05-09T12:05:53 < dongs> http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/STF202-22T1-D.PDF 2016-05-09T12:05:55 < dongs> i.e. like this 2016-05-09T12:06:28 < Ecco> I see, thanks 2016-05-09T12:07:59 < mitrax> Ecco: i use this http://www.mouser.fr/ProductDetail/NXP-Semiconductors/PUSBM5V5X4-TL115/?qs=A1cBxND5mHLIEjLd1sTWXg%3D%3D (that's what they put on the STM32F429 disco board) 2016-05-09T12:08:10 < mitrax> same thing 2016-05-09T12:14:55 < dongs> barettes de diodes 2016-05-09T12:20:13 < Ecco> Thanks mitrax 2016-05-09T12:21:12 < dongs> and yeah 2016-05-09T12:21:19 < dongs> -discovery board is a good place for sample schematics. 2016-05-09T12:21:51 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-09T12:23:46 < karlp> that STF202 has hard pullup resistor in it mind you, so maybe not what you're wanting all the time. 2016-05-09T12:23:55 < karlp> you can calso get ones that are just the diodes. 2016-05-09T12:24:53 < zyp> hmm, I used some thing on a board I made last year 2016-05-09T12:32:22 < dongs> there's a bunch 2016-05-09T12:32:29 < dongs> i just pulled first shit I had in my search history 2016-05-09T12:32:38 < dongs> chinks have some clons of the sot23;6 thing 2016-05-09T12:32:42 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-09T12:33:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T12:34:21 < zyp> dongs, what was it I used on that LL board? 2016-05-09T12:35:13 < zyp> you didn't send me an itemized invoice for that, so I don't know what I paid for 2016-05-09T12:36:19 < mitrax> crt: hi sir 2016-05-09T12:36:38 < dongs> IP4420CZ6 ? 2016-05-09T12:38:01 < dongs> i cant find what the fuck that is 2016-05-09T12:38:05 < dongs> but i think thtsa the one? 2016-05-09T12:40:34 < zyp> yeah, that's what I see in BOM, but google gave me no sane hits 2016-05-09T12:40:38 < dongs> right 2016-05-09T12:40:44 < zyp> so I wonder what you actually bought :p 2016-05-09T12:40:50 < dongs> no clue 2016-05-09T12:40:57 < dongs> what did you design in? :) 2016-05-09T12:41:04 < zyp> hmm? 2016-05-09T12:41:07 < dongs> i mean 2016-05-09T12:41:15 < dongs> you designed it right 2016-05-09T12:41:18 < zyp> yes 2016-05-09T12:41:24 < dongs> so you should have a datasheet for it next to the project files somewehre 2016-05-09T12:41:45 < zyp> oh, I don't tend to collect datasheets 2016-05-09T12:42:45 < zyp> ah 2016-05-09T12:42:47 < dongs> whats bigger than SOD-323 but smaller than SMA/SMB 2016-05-09T12:42:48 < zyp> http://cache.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/IP4220CZ6.pdf <- here it is 2016-05-09T12:43:01 < zyp> or not 2016-05-09T12:43:08 < zyp> idk, maybe I typoed in the BOM 2016-05-09T12:43:12 < dongs> looks close enough 2016-05-09T12:43:23 < dongs> whatever you typoed, you got it bought 2016-05-09T12:43:24 < dongs> lolol 2016-05-09T12:44:31 < dongs> sod-123 maybe 2016-05-09T12:49:56 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:08:32 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@h-9-210.a357.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-09T13:12:27 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:17:46 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-09T13:19:15 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:19:15 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-09T13:19:15 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:20:31 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:23:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:24:40 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-09T13:39:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T13:44:46 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T13:55:19 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-09T13:59:04 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-09T14:04:17 < dongs> kakimir: any thouhts on 73251-1150 molex 2016-05-09T14:07:37 < zyp> is that an SMA connector? 2016-05-09T14:07:41 < dongs> yes 2016-05-09T14:07:45 < zyp> heh 2016-05-09T14:07:54 < dongs> how did tyou know? 2016-05-09T14:09:33 < zyp> just guessing 2016-05-09T14:11:33 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-09T14:11:58 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T14:12:29 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T14:15:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-09T14:17:15 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T14:19:54 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T14:31:34 < karlp> 10000 hours... 2016-05-09T14:34:01 < PeterM> 10,000 hours? 2016-05-09T14:40:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T14:40:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.173] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T14:41:16 < karlp> PeterM: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-study-destroys-malcolm-gladwells-10000-rule-2014-7?IR=T ish... 2016-05-09T14:55:26 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/9ujutV9.jpg 2016-05-09T14:57:03 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/5VEsbV.gif 2016-05-09T15:00:03 < elektrinis> ;]] 2016-05-09T15:01:35 < PeterM> karlp thats because malcom gladwell is a dumbass and doesnt know basic reading and comprehension so when he read k. anders ericssons book he done goofed 2016-05-09T15:02:34 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T15:03:44 < PeterM> *paper 2016-05-09T15:07:30 < karlp> PeterM: was just correcting ohsix's count of seconds to at least what the pop rule is :) 2016-05-09T15:12:33 < Laurenceb_> crt has been on 4chan again 2016-05-09T15:12:52 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/thumb/1462792088013.jpg 2016-05-09T15:14:45 -!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-09T15:27:15 < dongs> crt, its out? 2016-05-09T15:27:32 < dongs> nice 2016-05-09T15:27:33 < dongs> grabbin 2016-05-09T15:27:38 < dongs> is legacy pack for 5.20 out yet? 2016-05-09T15:28:06 < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/mdk5/legacy/ 2016-05-09T15:28:07 < dongs> nup 2016-05-09T15:28:53 < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/mdk5/ds-mdk 2016-05-09T15:28:54 < dongs> what is this aids 2016-05-09T15:28:59 < dongs> stopped reading at "eclipse-based" 2016-05-09T15:31:14 < dongs> ugh laways fucking fail looking for changelog on their dumb site 2016-05-09T15:31:28 < dongs> http://www.keil.com/update/rvmdk.asp 2016-05-09T15:31:29 < dongs> there 2016-05-09T15:31:32 < dongs> i should jsut bookmark that shit 2016-05-09T15:31:53 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-09T15:31:59 < dongs> ARM Compiler 6.4 (LLVM technology): should be used for ARMv8-M processors (currently not supported in MDK-Lite). The usage for Cortex-M devices is possible, however requires CMSIS Version 5 that is currently available as beta version. Refer to ARMCLANG Specific Release Notes for details. 2016-05-09T15:32:04 < dongs> hm neat 2016-05-09T15:32:09 < dongs> by "neat" i mean "welcome to shitty bloated code" 2016-05-09T15:33:01 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T15:36:13 < englishman> dongs http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/08/paypal-drops-crowdfunding-protection/ 2016-05-09T15:44:35 -!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T15:44:57 < englishman> sup crt 2016-05-09T15:45:15 < englishman> sorry to hear that 2016-05-09T15:45:39 < Laurenceb_> mercury is tiny 2016-05-09T15:45:42 < Laurenceb_> screw this 2016-05-09T15:45:44 < englishman> tis a good time for chats 2016-05-09T15:49:45 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T15:51:07 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T16:01:32 < dongs> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36247459 2016-05-09T16:32:55 < Laurenceb_> time to download and 3d print 2016-05-09T16:33:10 < Laurenceb_> aids1298 is running... sort of 2016-05-09T16:33:23 < Laurenceb_> 20.5 ENOB at 1ksps 2016-05-09T16:35:55 < Laurenceb_> 21.1 at 500 2016-05-09T16:36:20 < Laurenceb_> but the ADC is the only good bit lol 2016-05-09T16:37:06 < Rob235> out for delivery :) I can finish wiring the drone today 2016-05-09T16:37:08 < BrainDamage> how are you calculating the SNR for the ENOB? or is just the input dynamic vs full range? 2016-05-09T16:37:24 < Laurenceb_> std of some data 2016-05-09T16:37:34 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T16:38:27 < Laurenceb_> std(a(2000:3000,7)) 2016-05-09T16:38:41 < Laurenceb_> 2/ans 2016-05-09T16:38:50 < Laurenceb_> log(ans)/log(2) 2016-05-09T16:38:53 < Laurenceb_> simples 2016-05-09T16:38:57 < BrainDamage> k 2016-05-09T16:39:16 < Laurenceb_> 2 as the range of audio data in matlab is +-1 2016-05-09T16:39:52 < Laurenceb_> and only 1k samples as the is a bit of drift 2016-05-09T16:40:10 < Laurenceb_> *there 2016-05-09T16:43:12 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:f8ff:6426:d9ce:47e] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T16:44:31 < Laurenceb_> its probably suffering a little due to slightly lame power supplies 2016-05-09T16:44:44 < Laurenceb_> datasheet suggests I'm losing about 1 bit 2016-05-09T16:46:14 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-09T16:46:38 < karlp> better make sure my death pill is GMO free! http://fast-die.github.io/ 2016-05-09T16:47:38 < karlp> get a better browser. 2016-05-09T16:47:52 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T16:47:56 < jpa-> why is that hosted on hitgub? 2016-05-09T16:47:57 < PeterM> lol 2016-05-09T16:48:33 < BrainDamage> is there some rule for github sites to be opensource projects? 2016-05-09T16:49:09 < PeterM> well it doesnt have any GMOs, so it could probably be opensourced jsut fine 2016-05-09T16:50:07 < owl-v-> c++14 for cortex-m? 2016-05-09T16:50:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T16:51:04 < jpa-> owl-v-: sure, gcc should do that 2016-05-09T16:54:41 < dongs> With C++11 and C++14, ARM Compiler 6 brings the support for the very latest C++ standards. 2016-05-09T16:54:49 < dongs> sounds like I should be able to build zyp's trash now wiht new keil 2016-05-09T16:55:54 < Laurenceb_> what the actual fuck 2016-05-09T16:55:59 < Laurenceb_> that has to be a troll 2016-05-09T16:56:03 < dongs> which part 2016-05-09T16:56:24 < Laurenceb_> wild orgasm 2016-05-09T16:56:42 < zyp> nice 2016-05-09T16:56:49 < zyp> maybe I should play with that some time 2016-05-09T16:56:59 < zyp> would still need to replace the inline asm stuff 2016-05-09T16:57:12 < zyp> how was it, armcc has no inline asm at all? 2016-05-09T16:57:16 < zyp> or just different syntax? 2016-05-09T16:57:31 < dongs> has 2016-05-09T16:57:33 < dongs> just not dumb stuff 2016-05-09T16:57:51 < dongs> not allowed to do shit that breaks stuff 2016-05-09T16:58:03 < zyp> idk about dumb, gcc asm constraints is neat 2016-05-09T16:58:30 < zyp> allows the compiler to optimize around inline code 2016-05-09T16:58:37 < zyp> or rather, optimize better 2016-05-09T17:06:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-09T17:09:55 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-09T17:12:40 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luwwdgcmaozhpurn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T17:13:00 < owl-v-> what happened to zano? --> http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/zano-drone-maker-says-sorry-for-failed-kickstarter-project/ 2016-05-09T17:13:20 < owl-v-> because it uses pic32? 2016-05-09T17:13:26 < dongs> yes 2016-05-09T17:13:31 < Laurenceb_> because of perman00bs 2016-05-09T17:14:07 < dongs> ivan shoulda kept me on the phone when I called 2016-05-09T17:14:13 < dongs> and told him that pic32 wouldnt fly 2016-05-09T17:14:18 < owl-v-> sh!t 2016-05-09T17:14:21 < Laurenceb_> Ad Astra per aspergers 2016-05-09T17:15:35 < dongs> lul 2016-05-09T17:15:41 < dongs> keil officially supports gigadevice now 2016-05-09T17:15:44 < dongs> they have softare packs for it 2016-05-09T17:15:47 < dongs> for their stm32 clonez 2016-05-09T17:18:47 < dongs> that INA301 shit TI just spammed me with is worthless 2016-05-09T17:18:50 < dongs> 1us reaction time 2016-05-09T17:18:59 < dongs> F3 comparator is like 240ns 2016-05-09T17:19:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T17:20:23 < zyp> dongs, oh, by the way, on these last boards I got from you, there were some weird spots on the bottom on some of the boards 2016-05-09T17:20:52 < PeterM> zyp pcbs got aids in the mail 2016-05-09T17:20:57 < dongs> probaly from hotplate when I had to rework those fucking 8pF chinacaps 2016-05-09T17:21:08 < dongs> that were so fucking oxidized/old that they didnt even reflow 2016-05-09T17:21:43 < zyp> according to US guy, one of the boards didn't read cards and the other one doesn't show up at all over usb, and they respectively had a spot near the antenna and near one of the vcc traces on bottom, so I guess they're shorted out or something 2016-05-09T17:21:53 < dongs> oh hm 2016-05-09T17:21:57 < dongs> i gave him teh cleanest ones 2016-05-09T17:22:08 < dongs> you got the worst ones since you'd be able to fix it 2016-05-09T17:22:08 < zyp> idk, might be unrelated 2016-05-09T17:22:17 < PeterM> dongs you got a ultragottagofast cleaner? 2016-05-09T17:22:18 < zyp> I've only tested one of the ones I got, and it works 2016-05-09T17:22:37 < dongs> PeterM: somewehre, but not sure how well works. it used to trash gyros so stopped using 2016-05-09T17:22:55 < PeterM> ahh yeah, they are pretty rough on mems and xtals 2016-05-09T17:23:19 < Laurenceb_> new zano project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/973736766/the-cybermatrix-100-tu01?ref=nav_search 2016-05-09T17:23:22 < PeterM> they're good for cleanin boards tho 2016-05-09T17:24:19 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, fucking so old its grandkids grandkids ahve died already 2016-05-09T17:25:34 < dongs> just pack shit, so who cares 2016-05-09T17:28:18 < Rob235> dongs: I just cut out a hole with a paper hole punch to see how it would work with the led heat shrink and the hole is way too big 2016-05-09T17:28:21 < Rob235> plan b 2016-05-09T17:29:34 < PeterM> Rob235, cut the hole before you shrink it and the hole will shrink too no? 2016-05-09T17:30:07 < Rob235> interesting.... 2016-05-09T17:30:20 < Rob235> well it wouldn't shrink as a circle would it? 2016-05-09T17:30:26 < Rob235> since heat shrink only shrinks one way 2016-05-09T17:30:36 < PeterM> it'd be pretty close... 2016-05-09T17:30:43 < PeterM> why only one way 2016-05-09T17:30:49 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-09T17:30:58 < Rob235> the length doesn't really shrink 2016-05-09T17:31:17 < PeterM> it does 2016-05-09T17:31:17 < dongs> jesus christ llvm 2016-05-09T17:31:18 < dongs> ".\obj\troll.axf" - 336 Error(s), 1032 Warning(s). 2016-05-09T17:31:42 < dongs> o haha it needs new CMSIS 2016-05-09T17:31:43 < Rob235> heat shrink is like 2:1 or whatever, if that were true you would have to cut a piece twice as long 2016-05-09T17:32:24 < PeterM> ifoyu were to shrink it in free air, nto around something it would shrink evenly 2016-05-09T17:32:57 < PeterM> once it shrinks around the thing your covering, it grips it nad prevents it shrinking in hte lenght direction 2016-05-09T17:33:52 < Rob235> hmm 2016-05-09T17:34:58 < Steffanx> So it was not just you with those dark google links ReadError 2016-05-09T17:35:19 < Steffanx> You were a victim of googles test team. 2016-05-09T17:36:10 < ReadMobl> Oh? 2016-05-09T17:36:48 < ReadMobl> It's bullshit 2016-05-09T17:37:12 < Steffanx> No it was a a/b test 2016-05-09T17:37:24 < Laurenceb_> ah spotted Mercury 2016-05-09T17:37:27 < Laurenceb_> that was tricky 2016-05-09T17:37:27 < PeterM> i have no idea what you are all talking about but it seems to be nearing really close to consiracy dipshit stuff 2016-05-09T17:38:02 < dongs> http://www.ratocsystems.com/products/subpage/wifiusb2x.html what the fuck why does this even exist 2016-05-09T17:38:25 < Steffanx> No. Better start keiling 2016-05-09T17:39:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T17:39:02 < Steffanx> It is not 2016-05-09T17:39:03 < PeterM> dongs its somehting to do with how ios can't handle external storage well so it has to interface over a webserver o n wifi or something iirc 2016-05-09T17:40:08 < ReadMobl> Steffanx: you get them too? 2016-05-09T17:43:30 < dongs> speaking of stm32 2016-05-09T17:43:45 < dongs> PeterM: any suggesion for 19V->5V @ 10-15A buck? 2016-05-09T17:44:00 < dongs> for my superchargerpro project 2016-05-09T17:44:11 < dongs> superchargerpro2 2016-05-09T17:44:21 < dongs> new kickstarter 2016-05-09T17:44:23 < PeterM> do you prefer minimal parts or cheap? 2016-05-09T17:44:44 < Steffanx> No but i read on some dutch tech website tweeters got them too 2016-05-09T17:44:51 < Steffanx> Mr readerror 2016-05-09T17:44:57 < dongs> PeterM: probly availble + works is a higher prioroity 2016-05-09T17:45:13 < PeterM> mmhm 2016-05-09T17:45:18 < PeterM> i have some ideas 2016-05-09T17:45:28 < dongs> problyt extenral fet? 2016-05-09T17:45:30 < dongs> not gonna avoid that one 2016-05-09T17:45:35 < Laurenceb_> now I don't know if I can see mercury or a sunspot lol 2016-05-09T17:45:35 < Laurenceb_> this is lame and boring 2016-05-09T17:46:01 < Steffanx> Can you see your next payment yet? 2016-05-09T17:46:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T17:46:45 < Steffanx> Maybe i should stop doing laurenceb to laurenceb. 2016-05-09T17:47:01 < PeterM> http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT8110/DS8110-02.pdf + http://www.vishay.com/docs/62877/siz340dt.pdf is pretty decent combo 2016-05-09T17:47:11 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-09T17:47:26 < dongs> 400khz , eh. how bad of an inductor is that gonna be 2016-05-09T17:47:44 < PeterM> pretty bad 2016-05-09T17:48:10 < PeterM> i understand if you dont want 2016-05-09T17:48:21 < PeterM> i do have alternatives though 2016-05-09T17:48:58 < dongs> hm it needs separate vcc for power shit 2016-05-09T17:49:03 < PeterM> no 2016-05-09T17:49:07 < PeterM> it has built in regulator 2016-05-09T17:49:27 < PeterM> sec 2016-05-09T17:49:30 < PeterM> wrong link 2016-05-09T17:49:35 < ReadMobl> I need to figure out how to change it back 2016-05-09T17:49:44 < PeterM> rt8110B 2016-05-09T17:49:47 < PeterM> B important 2016-05-09T17:49:59 < ReadMobl> The dark links are retarded 2016-05-09T17:50:07 < dongs> ah yeah that one is less aids 2016-05-09T17:51:19 < dongs> would you use that to power USB ports? 2016-05-09T17:51:38 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T17:53:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-09T17:54:11 < PeterM> i dont see why not 2016-05-09T17:54:52 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/HJ-Mjr-0Eis?t=2m7s 2016-05-09T17:56:23 < PeterM> however, getting single inductors with that current capability gets spensive 2016-05-09T17:56:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-09T17:56:51 < dongs> yeah... 2016-05-09T17:56:53 < dongs> i was just looking 2016-05-09T17:57:00 < dongs> but doesnt look to oxpensive 2016-05-09T17:57:21 < dongs> o wait 2016-05-09T17:57:24 < dongs> but it'll need to be some high uH too 2016-05-09T17:57:39 < PeterM> you want like 15uh~ and dc current of 15a, sat of 16-20a 2016-05-09T17:57:47 < dongs> right 2016-05-09T17:58:05 < PeterM> i mean, 15uh is a bit noisy, but that dont matter for just chargin phones 2016-05-09T17:59:05 < dongs> fucking WURTH 2016-05-09T17:59:07 < dongs> is the onyl thing that comes up 2016-05-09T17:59:20 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/wurth-electronics-inc/7443631500/732-2522-1-ND/2440405 2016-05-09T17:59:23 < dongs> aids 2016-05-09T17:59:32 < dongs> hmm 2016-05-09T17:59:33 < dongs> acutally 2016-05-09T17:59:34 < PeterM> nah fuck that 2016-05-09T17:59:39 < dongs> i wonder if it would make more sense to just split the rail 2016-05-09T17:59:46 < dongs> like 4 ports per switcher 2016-05-09T17:59:52 < PeterM> yea probs 2016-05-09T18:00:09 < dongs> no sense running high-current shit all over the board 2016-05-09T18:00:20 < PeterM> i reckon some chunky integrated buck converters would be the way t ogo 2016-05-09T18:01:45 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:02:27 < Laurenceb_> n00b question: 2016-05-09T18:02:30 < Laurenceb_> data_gps[5]=(int16_t)(((uint16_t)Gps_->nosats)<<8|(uint16_t)((Gps_->status)&0x0f)); 2016-05-09T18:02:36 < dongs> fuck man 2016-05-09T18:02:39 < dongs> insert some god damn spaces 2016-05-09T18:02:42 < Laurenceb_> this isnt setting the lower byte 2016-05-09T18:02:43 < dongs> before pasting that shit 2016-05-09T18:02:46 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-09T18:02:49 < dongs> yeah because its missing all the spacing 2016-05-09T18:03:08 < Laurenceb_> data_gps[5] is int16_t, upper 8 bits are number of sats, which works correctly 2016-05-09T18:03:25 < Laurenceb_> lower byte is all zero even tho Gps_->status is 3 2016-05-09T18:03:29 < Laurenceb_> wtf? 2016-05-09T18:03:35 < dongs> i seriously cant even fucign start reading that mess 2016-05-09T18:04:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:05:32 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-09T18:07:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-09T18:08:35 < Sync> wat teh fuck is wrong with all the casting in there Laurenceb_ 2016-05-09T18:09:33 < Laurenceb_> is it possible to cast 8 bit int as 16 bit then shift up 8 bits? 2016-05-09T18:09:45 < Laurenceb_> ((uint16_t)Gps_->nosats)<<8 2016-05-09T18:09:56 < mitrax> sure 2016-05-09T18:11:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:11:28 < mitrax> Laurenceb: did you solve your issues with the ECG chip? 2016-05-09T18:12:46 < dongs> Lerg: https://ideone.com/kTbDUB 2016-05-09T18:12:47 < dongs> err 2016-05-09T18:12:48 < dongs> Laurenceb_: https://ideone.com/kTbDUB 2016-05-09T18:12:55 < Laurenceb_> mitrax: sort of, it doesnt follow datasheet very closely 2016-05-09T18:13:06 < Laurenceb_> datasheet is a suggestion of how it functions 2016-05-09T18:13:26 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to have to do a new board with some external multiplexers to get the functionality I need 2016-05-09T18:13:36 < mitrax> bleh 2016-05-09T18:13:54 < karlp> dongs: I've definitely had problems where I had to cast before the shift, 2016-05-09T18:13:55 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-09T18:13:56 < PeterM> http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT7259/DS7259-01.pdf + http://aosmd.com/res/data_sheets/AON7534.pdf + 15uh 8-10a inductor and 70uf~ of capacitance 2016-05-09T18:14:01 < Laurenceb_> v nice dongs 2016-05-09T18:14:36 < dongs> nice, no compensation trash 2016-05-09T18:14:57 < PeterM> DS suggests 2.8uH inductor but that shit is gon be noisy AF 2016-05-09T18:15:18 < PeterM> could probably get away with 6.8-10uh if you dont care 2016-05-09T18:15:40 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-09T18:15:40 < dongs> mm, that looks pretty good 2016-05-09T18:15:45 < PeterM> china has aon7534 for like 15c ea 2016-05-09T18:15:49 < dongs> and i guess chinaavailable since richtec? 2016-05-09T18:16:19 < PeterM> im not sure on the chain avail of the richtek, dk has it pretty cheap tho 2016-05-09T18:16:34 < PeterM> ask your chinagirl, she might be able to get it cheaper than dk but im not sure 2016-05-09T18:16:43 < PeterM> its pretty new part 2016-05-09T18:17:30 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-09T18:19:35 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:21:26 < dongs> PeterM: does that mean i can pwm it externally wiht 1.5MHz 2016-05-09T18:21:49 < dongs> wtf is syncronous extenral clock 2016-05-09T18:22:08 < PeterM> if you have a 1.5mhz oscillator you can stick that into the syunc/en pin and it will run at 1.5mhz 2016-05-09T18:22:23 < PeterM> but if you just pull en high it will run at 600mhz 2016-05-09T18:22:26 < PeterM> *600khz 2016-05-09T18:22:38 < dongs> i'll have a STM32 in there 2016-05-09T18:22:52 < dongs> can I pull it high by default then output PWM to it after its powered up? 2016-05-09T18:23:02 < dongs> sounds dodgy 2016-05-09T18:23:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-09T18:23:21 < PeterM> you'd jsut pwm it directly, not worry about pull it up 2016-05-09T18:23:29 < dongs> no i mean 2016-05-09T18:23:34 < dongs> if STM32 isnt pwming 2016-05-09T18:23:41 < dongs> cuz its just turning on 2016-05-09T18:23:48 < PeterM> o 2016-05-09T18:23:50 < dongs> the reg wouldnt be working etc 2016-05-09T18:23:53 < PeterM> the richtek pwoering hte stm32 2016-05-09T18:23:56 < dongs> yeah heh 2016-05-09T18:24:00 < PeterM> ahh 2016-05-09T18:24:03 < PeterM> i wouldnt do that 2016-05-09T18:24:08 < dongs> thats what I thought 2016-05-09T18:24:26 < PeterM> tbh id jsut leave at 600khz, shit will be pretty inefficient if you're pulling 10a through it and swithcing at 1.5mhz 2016-05-09T18:24:37 < dongs> ya okay 2016-05-09T18:25:27 < PeterM> if output is jsut charging phoens i think the bourns SRP1265A series is pretty affordable for 10uh 10a 2016-05-09T18:25:57 < dongs> i was just g onna find some china sunlord thing 2016-05-09T18:26:15 < PeterM> do shitlord do that high current? 2016-05-09T18:26:59 < dongs> not in swpa series, hm, maybe some other 2016-05-09T18:27:50 < dongs> http://www.sunlordinc.com/PDFCatalog.aspx#For Power Line 2016-05-09T18:28:00 < dongs> looks like they have some "large isat" WPL series 2016-05-09T18:28:43 < dongs> heh nope 2016-05-09T18:28:49 < dongs> 15uH is like 3A 2016-05-09T18:28:51 < dongs> useless. 2016-05-09T18:29:09 < PeterM> whats 10uh look like 2016-05-09T18:29:21 < dongs> 3.0 4.45 2016-05-09T18:29:24 < dongs> same 2016-05-09T18:29:27 < PeterM> ughk 2016-05-09T18:29:49 < dongs> taller version is a bit better 2016-05-09T18:30:03 < dongs> WPL8540H150MT 15±20% 74.4 62.0 5.0 6.5 2016-05-09T18:30:15 < dongs> WPL6530H150MT 15±20% 127.0 106.0 3.0 4.25 2016-05-09T18:30:21 < PeterM> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/bourns-inc/SRP1265A-100M/SRP1265A-100MCT-ND/4876712 2016-05-09T18:30:30 < dongs> ya thats cheap anyway 2016-05-09T18:30:38 < Ultrasauce> http://i.imgur.com/MNrN4uB.png 2016-05-09T18:30:38 -!- Mustafa_ [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T18:31:03 < zyp> add more inductors in parallel 2016-05-09T18:31:21 < Laurenceb_> I've designed a switcher 2016-05-09T18:31:22 < Laurenceb_> oh wait 2016-05-09T18:31:37 < Laurenceb_> well it worked ok 2016-05-09T18:32:35 < jadew> aren't reference designs and calculators provided by IC manufacturers? 2016-05-09T18:33:36 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:34:08 < Laurenceb_> https://sli.mg/QxRWtI 2016-05-09T18:37:33 < PeterM> if you add inductors in aprallel you reduce the inductance 2016-05-09T18:37:55 < zyp> yes, just like resistors 2016-05-09T18:38:00 < PeterM> indeed 2016-05-09T18:38:07 < PeterM> unless they are wound on hte same core 2016-05-09T18:38:14 < PeterM> then the inductance stays the same 2016-05-09T18:40:46 < jadew> unless you have different number of windings? 2016-05-09T18:41:48 < jadew> then it would behave like a short to itself? 2016-05-09T18:41:51 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-09T18:42:15 < PeterM> nah it will jsut have an inductance of the lower value inductor 2016-05-09T18:42:57 < jadew> well, yeah 2016-05-09T18:44:24 < jadew> that's what I was imagining, but I think there may be more to it 2016-05-09T18:44:51 < jadew> you'd still have a magnetic field moving electrons in the longer one 2016-05-09T18:45:48 < PeterM> the current flow i nthe smaller indctor will be greater ususlaly because the lwoer resistance and inductance 2016-05-09T18:45:48 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-09T18:49:06 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:50:02 < jadew> I'll have to test this, I think that either the inductance should be slightly increased and that there'll be a phase difference between the two 2016-05-09T18:50:31 < jadew> s/either// 2016-05-09T18:50:49 < jadew> that whole phrase is full of errors, but you get the jist 2016-05-09T18:51:42 < PeterM> yes 2016-05-09T18:52:06 < PeterM> no the inductance will be equal to that of the lowest inductor 2016-05-09T18:52:11 < PeterM> if nto lower 2016-05-09T18:52:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T18:52:57 < PeterM> you cant add inductance in aprallel to increase inductance, jsut liek you cant add resistance in parallel to increase resistance 2016-05-09T18:54:12 < jadew> but is it in parallel? 2016-05-09T18:54:25 < jadew> because when they're of equal length they behave as if it was just one inductor 2016-05-09T18:54:29 < jadew> one wire 2016-05-09T18:54:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-09T18:55:03 < jadew> now if one of the wires is longer, it would still be on the same core, but it's not really in paralell, is it? 2016-05-09T18:55:10 < jadew> (the remaining wire) 2016-05-09T18:55:21 < PeterM> how would it not be? 2016-05-09T18:56:39 < jadew> yeah, I suppose it's still in paralel 2016-05-09T18:56:54 < jadew> but something has to change 2016-05-09T18:57:27 < PeterM> you get a lower DCR 2016-05-09T18:57:35 < PeterM> thats about it 2016-05-09T18:57:46 < PeterM> you may also lower your saturation current 2016-05-09T18:58:51 < jadew> why would the DCR be lower? 2016-05-09T18:59:27 < jadew> the resulting resistance should be higher than if they had the same length 2016-05-09T18:59:59 < PeterM> because you have the two windings in parallel 2016-05-09T19:00:13 < PeterM> so at DC, the resistance would be lower 2016-05-09T19:01:36 < jadew> if they're both X Ohms and the resulting resistance is Y, then if one is X + Z, the resulting resistance should be larger than Y 2016-05-09T19:02:14 < jadew> it would be lower if one of the wires got shorter tho 2016-05-09T19:03:03 < PeterM> yes 2016-05-09T19:03:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T19:11:43 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T19:11:43 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-09T19:11:43 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T19:17:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T19:19:06 -!- Tekkkz [~pc@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T19:20:47 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-09T19:21:12 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T19:24:30 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T19:26:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T19:29:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-09T19:35:47 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:04:50 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T20:07:54 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:15:50 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T20:18:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:27:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-09T20:28:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:35:30 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:40:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:41:20 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:44:11 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:44:18 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/xabzcgg.gifv 2016-05-09T20:45:18 < upgrdman> in windows, how do i scan the local network for shit listening on port 80? 2016-05-09T20:45:22 < upgrdman> is there some dos command for that 2016-05-09T20:45:34 < rewolff1> get nmap 2016-05-09T20:46:13 < Steffanx> and then to imagine that is in dutchland jadew. 2016-05-09T20:46:55 < jadew> Steffanx, how can you tell? 2016-05-09T20:47:35 < Steffanx> i've seen the version with audio. 2016-05-09T20:49:27 -!- Tekkkz [~pc@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-09T20:55:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-09T20:57:30 -!- Mustafa_ [~quassel@p5DE85E32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:57:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-bab9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T20:57:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T20:57:50 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-09T20:58:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T21:03:02 < BrainDamage> that guy looks like the target demography of telemarketing aids 2016-05-09T21:03:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-09T21:05:24 < jadew> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fontus-the-self-filling-water-bottles 2016-05-09T21:05:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T21:06:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T21:06:56 < jadew> why do people keep falling for these scams? 2016-05-09T21:07:41 < lorenzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mI407Uks4&feature=youtu.be&t=42s 2016-05-09T21:09:00 < lorenzo> "A small fan draws the air from the surrounding environment, runs it through a special filter and presses it into the condensation chamber" 2016-05-09T21:09:13 < BrainDamage> because we have many things that appear magic to the layman and the average science knowledge of the population is low 2016-05-09T21:09:28 < BrainDamage> so if xyz seems like magic and it works, why not this? 2016-05-09T21:09:31 < lorenzo> yeah after you've run 300 kilometers you'll *maybe* get a drop of water 2016-05-09T21:09:38 < jadew> BrainDamage, you're probably right 2016-05-09T21:10:11 -!- Mustafa_ [~quassel@p5DE85E32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T21:10:25 < zyp> so it's essentially a portable dehumidifier 2016-05-09T21:10:34 < jadew> zyp, yeah 2016-05-09T21:10:53 < jadew> with a fraction of the power of a regular one 2016-05-09T21:11:31 < lorenzo> anyway, as a rule of thumb, when dealing with humans, keep in mind that 9 out of 10 praise some fictional being invented in a book written a few thousand years ago 2016-05-09T21:11:41 < lorenzo> everything else can only be slighly better than that 2016-05-09T21:11:43 < BrainDamage> i don't even want to know the shit it's gonna end up in the bottle 2016-05-09T21:11:57 < BrainDamage> fungus, bacterias, dirt 2016-05-09T21:12:09 < BrainDamage> it's gonna be a festering biological bomb 2016-05-09T21:12:14 < jadew> they say it's filtered 2016-05-09T21:12:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T21:12:38 < jadew> but it doesn't matter, you won't get to drink more than a couple of drops of water from that 2016-05-09T21:13:00 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T21:13:02 < jadew> it's more like a taunt for when you're thirsty 2016-05-09T21:13:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-09T21:14:26 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE85E32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-09T21:19:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-09T21:24:13 < BrainDamage> according to them, 300ml in 2h at room temp in the summer at 50% humidity, yeah, no, here humidity routinely goes to 70-80% and it takes 8h with ~500W average draw to pull out about 2L 2016-05-09T21:24:22 < BrainDamage> their figures are a bit too optimistic 2016-05-09T21:25:35 < aandrew> lol fontus 2016-05-09T21:25:50 < aandrew> how long does it take to pull 800mL of water out of the air? 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The FONTUS bottles, both AIRO and RYDE are being shipped from the United States as an origin point. We have done everything we can to absorb as much of the shipping costs as possible. 2016-05-09T21:27:57 < aandrew> LOL 2016-05-09T21:28:12 < aandrew> to ship a couple pounds using FedEx isn't $75 from US to Canada 2016-05-09T21:28:17 < aandrew> absorb as much as possible my ass 2016-05-09T21:28:51 < jadew> they probably meant that they're absorbing from the shipping costs 2016-05-09T21:28:55 < BrainDamage> they are absorbing the money 2016-05-09T21:29:05 < aandrew> indeed 2016-05-09T21:29:18 < aandrew> I bet they'll do a better job absorbing money than they will water from the air 2016-05-09T21:29:47 < BrainDamage> the hironic thing is that i wanted a thing like that when i was a kid 2016-05-09T21:29:56 < BrainDamage> to have a magical auto refilling super soaker 2016-05-09T21:30:14 < BrainDamage> i even dreamed to pull the moisture from air 2016-05-09T21:30:26 < jadew> you can probably do it in a car 2016-05-09T21:30:29 < BrainDamage> but when i saw how fast the real mains devices 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stm32get 2016-05-09T23:12:58 < Ultrasauce> stm32f1 racing 2016-05-09T23:13:51 < Steffanx> Max ftw. 2016-05-09T23:14:19 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-09T23:18:25 < Laurenceb_> stm32f series war now, stm32f7 pride worldwide, gas the stm32f1 2016-05-09T23:18:39 < bvernoux> Laurenceb: I want dual Core M7 ;) 2016-05-09T23:19:00 < bvernoux> or even just a M0+ and a M7 2016-05-09T23:19:13 < Laurenceb_> I'm not sure how useful F7 really is 2016-05-09T23:19:21 < Tectu> not that discussion again, bvernoux... 2016-05-09T23:19:28 < bvernoux> main problem for me with STM32 is there is only mono core 2016-05-09T23:19:32 < Laurenceb_> dual issue means hand coded asm isnt going to be so useful 2016-05-09T23:19:38 < bvernoux> and for streaming stuff it is a must have to have dual core 2016-05-09T23:19:45 < Tectu> bvernoux, doing multi-cpu-core embedded realtime stuff is very hard 2016-05-09T23:19:49 < Tectu> hard as in cumbersome / complex 2016-05-09T23:19:59 < Tectu> you can't just write your program and hit compile and magic will be applied 2016-05-09T23:19:59 < bvernoux> yes but m0+ cost nothing ;) 2016-05-09T23:20:12 < bvernoux> also to drive LCD screen it will be very nice 2016-05-09T23:20:25 < bvernoux> to have m0+ doing GFX and all power on the M7 or even M4 2016-05-09T23:21:05 < Tectu> go get some LPC4k and see how cumbersome it is. 2016-05-09T23:21:13 < Tectu> they do M4 + M0+ in one package 2016-05-09T23:21:14 < bvernoux> with a communication channel using a hw FIFO in both way ;) 2016-05-09T23:21:25 < Tectu> well, seems like you got it all figured out ;) 2016-05-09T23:21:43 < bvernoux> Tectu: I already use LPC4370 in AirSpy but I prefer STM32 for peripheral and to use chibios ... 2016-05-09T23:22:36 < bvernoux> Tectu: It will be very nice for uGFX too ;) 2016-05-09T23:23:55 < Laurenceb_> you have all the overhead of interfacing the two 2016-05-09T23:24:08 < Tectu> well I have to deal with a few different customers that use uGFX on multi-core setups and unless you have a high-level abstraction OS on top of it the engineers all bitch around about how fuckly such a system can be 2016-05-09T23:24:33 < bvernoux> yes if it is not managed correctly multi core is awful 2016-05-09T23:24:43 < Laurenceb_> yeah its the permanoob solution to moar power 2016-05-09T23:24:54 < Laurenceb_> cluster of overclocked arduinos 2016-05-09T23:25:06 < lorenzo> stmega328p 2016-05-09T23:25:32 < lorenzo> stm328p 2016-05-09T23:25:37 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-09T23:25:41 < Tectu> yeah its the permanoob solution to moar power <--- that. 2016-05-09T23:26:33 < bvernoux> Tectu: do you have a cool demo for STM32F7 discovery kit ? 2016-05-09T23:26:46 < bvernoux> Tectu: I have 2 boards and they are sleeping ;) 2016-05-09T23:26:54 < Fleck> send one to me ;D 2016-05-09T23:27:04 < bvernoux> one have a broken LCD :( 2016-05-09T23:27:59 < bvernoux> but the touch screen & the screen is very nice for a cheap board 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they don't have spinning shit 2016-05-10T02:28:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-10T02:28:24 < upgrdman> i know 2016-05-10T02:28:33 < upgrdman> hence "giggle" 2016-05-10T02:28:58 < Rob235_> its jiggle btw 2016-05-10T02:29:13 < upgrdman> looks neat too http://zeptobars.com/en/read/Invensense-MPU6050-6d-MEMS-IMU-gyroscope-accelerometer 2016-05-10T02:29:26 < upgrdman> oops lol, jiggle... ya 2016-05-10T02:30:02 < Rob235_> so I finished wiring my drone and the leds aren't working :) 2016-05-10T02:30:19 < Rob235_> I have an idea though 2016-05-10T02:31:33 < Rob235_> I think it might be the way I'm grounding it 2016-05-10T02:31:39 < karlp> zyp: getting custom caps made at wasdkeyboards to go on this das keyboard I bought 2016-05-10T02:31:58 < zyp> ah 2016-05-10T02:33:13 < Rob235_> of course, why would you ask such a silly question? 2016-05-10T02:33:47 < PeterM> karlp, http://i.imgur.com/dLilA9s.jpg seems like a good meta/super keycap design for lunix 2016-05-10T02:34:40 < PeterM> make sure its double show injection moulded in red and yellow 2016-05-10T02:35:37 < zyp> PeterM, haha 2016-05-10T02:37:09 < Rob235_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dsxjnyv3pp2jjhz/20160509_193540.jpg?dl=0 I didn't cut out the leds yet 2016-05-10T02:37:28 < Rob235_> or glue down the strip 2016-05-10T02:40:05 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-10T02:41:47 < aandrew> http://www.cp24.com/lifestyle/human-interest/dating-website-to-match-canadians-with-americans-escaping-trump-presidency-1.2894752 2016-05-10T02:42:34 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-10T02:42:50 < Laurenceb_> even /pol/ are fleeing from trump now 2016-05-10T02:45:44 < aandrew> what's /pol 2016-05-10T02:45:59 < lorenzo> http://hastebin.com/ijisopemir.rb 2016-05-10T02:46:04 < lorenzo> haha this shit works for real 2016-05-10T02:46:06 < lorenzo> good job allwinner 2016-05-10T02:46:08 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz-crDWmINk 2016-05-10T02:46:19 < aandrew> nice 2016-05-10T02:46:32 < Laurenceb_> aandrew^ 2016-05-10T02:46:48 < BrainDamage> lorenzo: allwinner devices have mainline support since quite a while, no reason not to use the vanilla kernel 2016-05-10T02:47:39 < lorenzo> BrainDamage: yeah, I generally just buildroot + kernel, but apparently they let a backdoor slip in their images 2016-05-10T02:47:39 < lorenzo> https://github.com/allwinner-zh/linux-3.4-sunxi/blob/master/arch/arm/mach-sunxi/sunxi-debug.c#L41 2016-05-10T02:47:40 < Laurenceb_> Trump has a power level of over 9000, so everyone is scared 2016-05-10T02:47:50 < lorenzo> which is what most people are going to use I think 2016-05-10T02:48:53 < aandrew> the fuck was that 2016-05-10T02:50:23 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-10T02:51:50 < aandrew> that wasn't "slip in" heh 2016-05-10T02:57:02 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-10T03:08:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 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2016-05-10T03:36:16 < dongs> bomb arrives today 2016-05-10T03:50:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-10T03:51:42 < dongs> wow. from a quick look llvm-based ARM compiler is absolute shite 2016-05-10T03:52:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-10T03:52:49 < dongs> armcc: 2016-05-10T03:52:49 < dongs> Program Size: Code=64500 RO-data=11764 RW-data=1016 ZI-data=12040 2016-05-10T03:52:49 < dongs> gayllvm: 2016-05-10T03:52:49 < dongs> Program Size: Code=106720 RO-data=12672 RW-data=140 ZI-data=13028 2016-05-10T03:52:53 < dongs> yeah no 2016-05-10T03:52:59 < dongs> if I wanted 40k code increase I'd use gcc 2016-05-10T03:53:42 < dongs> and that's wiht -O2, for some reason -O3 makes even bigger file 2016-05-10T03:53:56 < emeb_mac> optimize for SPEEEED 2016-05-10T03:54:05 < dongs> Program Size: Code=104704 RO-data=12672 RW-data=668 ZI-data=12652 2016-05-10T03:54:08 < dongs> or not, but whatever 2016-05-10T03:54:08 < emeb_mac> makes teh codez hyyyoooooge 2016-05-10T03:54:23 < dongs> i wonder whats up with fluctiation of RW/ZI 2016-05-10T03:54:36 < dongs> anyway whatevers, 40k in a simple project = fuck off 2016-05-10T03:54:42 < dongs> back to dicknplacing 2016-05-10T04:08:05 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@66.53.80.141] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T04:09:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T04:11:01 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4261d.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T04:12:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T04:13:24 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d42a5b.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-10T04:18:40 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:2c19:b41:5ff6:3c77] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-10T04:21:05 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-10T04:29:59 -!- eft 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Am i correct that i can connect a button to any of the pins on f407? (except for those like GND, 5V, BOOT0 etc) ? 2016-05-10T12:13:59 < jpa-> sure, most pins are GPIO 2016-05-10T12:14:09 < jpa-> but there is no 5V supply pin on F407, only 3.3V :P 2016-05-10T12:14:23 < jpa-> (GPIO = General Purpose Input Output) 2016-05-10T12:17:11 < dongs> jpa, that shit come sup in jap for me 2016-05-10T12:17:19 < AndreeeCZ> ohsix, is this the periph library? i'm using libopencm3 for that 2016-05-10T12:18:16 < AndreeeCZ> so.. what do i need it for? i have the pinout for example here: http://www.mobilerobots.pl/web_images/stm32f4_discovery_pinout.png 2016-05-10T12:18:31 < AndreeeCZ> jpa-, there is a 5V pin.. ? 2016-05-10T12:19:17 < AndreeeCZ> allright. i was just unsure whether all the were GPIOs 2016-05-10T12:19:31 < AndreeeCZ> thanks a lot 2016-05-10T12:20:11 < dongs> they're pretty much all usable except maybe those OSC ones 2016-05-10T12:20:17 < dongs> or some o ther ones that are tied to specific peripherals 2016-05-10T12:20:24 < dongs> f4-disco user manual has a list of all "used" gpios 2016-05-10T12:20:35 < jpa-> AndreeeCZ: ah, i thought you meant just F407 processor instead of the whole discovery board 2016-05-10T12:20:47 < AndreeeCZ> right, i didnt mention that, sorry 2016-05-10T12:21:12 < dongs> some of SPI/I2C stuff is connected to codec/gyro/whatever onboard 2016-05-10T12:21:18 < jpa-> and yeah, as dongs says, on the discovery board you should check the manual to see that the gpio is not already connected to e.g. the onboard sensors 2016-05-10T12:21:47 < AndreeeCZ> damnation 2016-05-10T12:21:57 < AndreeeCZ> should have checked that before 2016-05-10T12:22:09 < jpa-> and some pins in GPIOA are used for the programmer (SWDIO, SWCLK) 2016-05-10T12:23:07 < dongs> and, on F4, you can actaully AF those into uselessness 2016-05-10T12:23:10 < dongs> unlike on F1 2016-05-10T12:23:23 < dongs> by setting pin to AIN or wahtever, it'll actually disconnect it from swd 2016-05-10T12:23:27 < dongs> F1 doesnt care 2016-05-10T12:23:52 < dongs> had a nice wtf moment long time ago wehn writing some code for f4 2016-05-10T12:24:04 < dongs> now we're stepping.. and now we're not 2016-05-10T12:24:41 < jadew> zyp, what was the frequency range of that vna you got? 2016-05-10T12:25:28 < jpa-> http://miniradiosolutions.com/minivna-pro/ 200MHz i think 2016-05-10T12:25:41 < jadew> ah.. 2016-05-10T12:25:50 < jadew> I need something that goes up to 7 GHz 2016-05-10T12:25:59 < jpa-> http://miniradiosolutions.com/54-2/ or was it this one, up to 3GHz 2016-05-10T12:26:11 < jadew> I think that's the one 2016-05-10T12:26:12 < jadew> thanks 2016-05-10T12:26:39 < jadew> maybe they have something that makes it go that high 2016-05-10T12:27:31 < karlp> cmsis-dsp has had that for a while iirc, just that now it's more part of the "core" cmsis instead of a separate library. 2016-05-10T12:29:16 < AndreeeCZ> "If PH0 and PH1 are used as GPIOs instead of being used as a clock, then SB13 and SB14 2016-05-10T12:29:16 < AndreeeCZ> are closed and R24, R25 and R68 are removed." 2016-05-10T12:29:37 < AndreeeCZ> unfortunately i connected stuff to H0 and H1. What are the implications? 2016-05-10T12:30:33 < jpa-> i would just resolder them to different pins 2016-05-10T12:30:38 < karlp> cmsis-dsp works pretty well. 2016-05-10T12:30:49 < jpa-> because you probably want to use the clock oscillator, to run the F4 at full speed 2016-05-10T12:32:04 < knielsen> I think it can run full speed from the internal oscillator HSI, but indeed it doesn't seem ideal... 2016-05-10T12:33:40 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T12:36:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T12:44:14 < qyx> have you seen this? http://www.ev-power.eu/LTO-technology/LTO1865-Rechargeable-Cell-2-4V-1300-mAh-Lithium-Titanate.html 2016-05-10T12:44:26 < qyx> Laurenceb_: you are into weird batteries ^^ 2016-05-10T12:46:47 < Laurenceb_> ooh 2016-05-10T12:47:27 < Laurenceb_> rated to -25C, nice, thanx for the link 2016-05-10T12:47:56 < qyx> 20000 cycles, 0.5C charge/discharge, 80% dod 2016-05-10T12:48:38 < Laurenceb_> 1/3rd capacity of lipo, but who cares 2016-05-10T12:48:45 < Laurenceb_> everything else is god 2016-05-10T12:49:13 < jpa-> yeah, 80 mWh/g for that vs. 230 mWh/g for lipo 2016-05-10T12:50:05 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: useful for balloons 2016-05-10T12:50:14 < Laurenceb_> they dont have enough energy to heat the battery 2016-05-10T12:50:18 < jpa-> useful for finland 2016-05-10T12:50:24 < Laurenceb_> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=1_day&mc=43.8191,35.50599&f=UBSEDS15 2016-05-10T12:50:35 < Laurenceb_> this is using lipo and dies at night quite often 2016-05-10T12:50:41 < jpa-> i wonder what it will cost 2016-05-10T12:51:57 < Laurenceb_> not enough spare mass, it doesnt work 2016-05-10T12:52:06 < qyx> wat 2016-05-10T12:52:10 < qyx> lol their web 2016-05-10T12:52:19 < qyx> jpa-: there was a price of about 6€ 2016-05-10T12:52:26 < qyx> until I clicked on that battery 2016-05-10T12:52:37 < qyx> some sql error appeared and now it is 0€ 2016-05-10T12:53:01 < qyx> now I tried with other items and I am successfully nulling all their prices 2016-05-10T12:54:01 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T12:54:53 < ReadError> haha last week tonight, they show a clip of a CBS news correspondent in north korea, asking opinions on america, "she says, if given a weapon she wants to shoot at president obama" 2016-05-10T12:55:02 < Laurenceb_> actually, that site says down to -25C for LiFePO4 2016-05-10T12:55:25 < Laurenceb_> and lipo outperforms LiFePO4 on balloons 2016-05-10T12:55:57 < qyx> maybe they have different manufacturing process or whatever 2016-05-10T12:56:48 < Laurenceb_> its more a case of balloons using ~0.05C and the lipos being about 30C 2016-05-10T12:57:01 < Laurenceb_> thats discharge C lol 2016-05-10T12:57:36 < Laurenceb_> world record amateur balloon used custom mode lipos 2016-05-10T12:57:38 < jpa-> qyx: heh :) 2016-05-10T12:57:45 < jpa-> qyx: 6e is not bad :) 2016-05-10T12:58:04 < Laurenceb_> it managed to run 24 hours a day for almost 4 months before the battery turned into a dead short 2016-05-10T13:01:12 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T13:01:30 < Laurenceb_> have to send some LTO cells to LeoBodnar, he has a characterisation setup that goes to -60 2016-05-10T13:01:47 < Laurenceb_> www.leobodnar.com/ 2016-05-10T13:02:22 -!- jara [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T13:02:23 < PeterM> http://www.2a3a.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Perf_Safe_18650.pdf i read this ages ago, its got some good data in it 2016-05-10T13:02:39 < PeterM> not for lto, but for the older a123 lifepo4 2016-05-10T13:03:07 < jara> I am trying out STM32F0 interrupts. On this link http://letanphuc.net/2015/03/stm32f0-tutorial-3-external-interrupts/, it mentions about external interrupt GPIO mapping. Where is the documentation for this? I cannot find it in the datasheet 2016-05-10T13:04:34 < zyp> jadew, yeah, I got that 3GHz thing 2016-05-10T13:05:20 < jadew> zyp, thanks, any idea if it can be extended? 2016-05-10T13:05:28 < zyp> no idea 2016-05-10T13:05:31 < jadew> hmm, I guess two mixers would do it 2016-05-10T13:05:39 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-10T13:05:46 < jadew> one for upconverting the input and another one for downconverting the output 2016-05-10T13:06:54 < qyx> Laurenceb_: which one, the B-series? 2016-05-10T13:07:01 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-10T13:07:02 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T13:07:02 < qyx> was it custom made? 2016-05-10T13:07:25 < Laurenceb_> he ordered a custom run of cells from a factory in china 2016-05-10T13:07:31 < Laurenceb_> Leo is rich :P 2016-05-10T13:07:58 < Laurenceb_> his main line of work is custom stuff for formula 1 2016-05-10T13:08:39 < Laurenceb_> aiui he has custom cells based on 40C RC helicopter stuff but with different electrolyte and electrode coatings 2016-05-10T13:09:26 < knielsen> jara: You need the reference manual 2016-05-10T13:09:54 < jara> knielsen, thanks. the key word is reference manual. I will google it 2016-05-10T13:10:52 < knielsen> jara: you can find it on the ST product page, eg for STM32F030R8: http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1574/LN1826/PF258964 2016-05-10T13:11:23 < knielsen> jara: go to "design resources" to find http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/resource/technical/document/reference_manual/DM00091010.pdf 2016-05-10T13:12:38 < jara> knielsen, thank u. u are most kind and helpful :) 2016-05-10T13:12:45 < Laurenceb_> it would run at 0.2C at -50°C 2016-05-10T13:12:47 < Laurenceb_> iirc 2016-05-10T13:15:07 < qyx> mhm 2016-05-10T13:17:15 < dongs> speaking of batteries, today's loot: http://imgur.com/a/vpbfH 2016-05-10T13:17:33 < Laurenceb_> it probably would have continued functioning, but it was being recharged by the solar panels at about -20C in winter, which seemed to develop intermittent shorts 2016-05-10T13:17:36 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-10T13:17:50 < Laurenceb_> after a few weeks of low temp charging it died for good, prob a dead short 2016-05-10T13:18:25 < Laurenceb_> similar cells with smarter charging and some sort of greenhouse enclosure might actually work 2016-05-10T13:18:43 < jara> knielsen, gosh! it is 771 pages. how can one read that? 2016-05-10T13:19:08 < jpa-> piece by piece 2016-05-10T13:19:18 < jpa-> it has pdf index, fortunately 2016-05-10T13:19:29 < knielsen> jara: yes, it's *only* 771 pages because STM32F030 is one of the simpler STM32's :-) 2016-05-10T13:19:40 < jpa-> yep :) 2016-05-10T13:20:01 < jara> u stm32 folks must be real smart 2016-05-10T13:20:07 < knielsen> jara: but it's the reference manual, you only need read the sections for the peripherals you need. 2016-05-10T13:20:37 < knielsen> Eg for your question, look at the section on "Extended interrupts and events controller (EXTI)" 2016-05-10T13:21:06 < knielsen> jara: you might want to pick the manual for the exact STM32 you are using, though they tend to be quite similar mostly 2016-05-10T13:22:30 < PeterM> dongs looks great, is the quad in hte backgroudn what you're going to put them into? 2016-05-10T13:22:35 < dongs> yes 2016-05-10T13:22:43 < dongs> there's pleeenty of room 2016-05-10T13:22:49 < dongs> currently it has 5 50Ah SLAs in it 2016-05-10T13:23:13 < dongs> ill make a 14S pack 2016-05-10T13:23:14 < jara> knielsen, thanks for the tip. reading it now. I'm glad there's CubeMX for people like me. With CubeMX, maybe one need not read all those stuff. 2016-05-10T13:23:26 < karlp> (pro tip, you will) 2016-05-10T13:24:06 < jpa-> (but even if you do, it will not help with cube ;) 2016-05-10T13:25:09 < PeterM> jesus fuckign christ 5x 50ah sla, that thing must weight a fuckload 2016-05-10T13:25:16 < dongs> yes haha 2016-05-10T13:25:26 < dongs> it will be half the weight with tehse batts 2016-05-10T13:26:18 < jpa-> i read "quad with 5x 50Ah SLA" and was wtf for a while :) 2016-05-10T13:26:28 < dongs> amazon says 15kg per 50Ah 2016-05-10T13:26:43 < jpa-> but fortunately not a quadcopter :P 2016-05-10T13:27:11 < dongs> jpa-: 'quad wheeler' 2016-05-10T13:27:23 < jpa-> yep 2016-05-10T13:27:23 < dongs> also known as ATV 2016-05-10T13:27:39 < zyp> ah, so that's how the packs looks internally 2016-05-10T13:29:09 < PeterM> hacing the holes through the cells for mounting is neat, you can really easily mount them cells together in a pack - just get a few lengths of allthread, some nylock nuts, some washers and 2 peices of sheet metal 2016-05-10T13:29:14 < PeterM> having* 2016-05-10T13:29:22 < dongs> yep 2016-05-10T13:29:27 < dongs> there's also those metal bits that go between them 2016-05-10T13:29:32 < dongs> to make them stack nicer 2016-05-10T13:29:37 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-10T13:29:52 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/WelSr5wr.jpg < this pic loose 2016-05-10T13:29:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T13:29:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-10T13:29:55 < PeterM> and the pack is nicely provided with busbars too 2016-05-10T13:30:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-10T13:30:27 < dongs> i was hoping the "collision detection" thing in the front would have some kinda accel/gyro in it 2016-05-10T13:30:32 < dongs> but it was just high-current disconnect shit :( 2016-05-10T13:30:54 < PeterM> yeah, pretty much 2016-05-10T13:30:59 < dongs> there's a nice hall sensor in it 2016-05-10T13:31:12 < dongs> and a 30W sand resistor 2016-05-10T13:31:51 < PeterM> oh, also get your imaxb6 or whatever hobbydongs charger you ahve and do a capacity check o none of the cells while you have it out 2016-05-10T13:32:13 < PeterM> it'll take a while so you may aswell start now 2016-05-10T13:32:14 < dongs> hook it up as 2S and? do charge/cischarge? 2016-05-10T13:32:18 < Sync> oh nice, are those leaf batteries cheap in yappuland? 2016-05-10T13:32:20 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-10T13:32:29 < dongs> which one first? charge? 2016-05-10T13:32:39 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-10T13:32:44 < dongs> 'kay 2016-05-10T13:34:35 < dongs> gonna solder up a XT60 thingy 2016-05-10T13:34:54 < PeterM> after its fulyl charged, let it sit for an hour or so and set your chjarger to like 0.5a and let it charge again, because the charge termination on htose chargers is pretty poor 2016-05-10T13:35:17 < dongs> i usually charge all teh big stuff at 1A anyway 2016-05-10T13:35:21 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-10T13:35:32 < dongs> the latest bmax thing i got is pretty good 2016-05-10T13:35:40 < dongs> once charged then try again it's done in about a minute or sro 2016-05-10T13:35:43 < dongs> wiht a few mA in 2016-05-10T13:35:50 < jara> i am using stm32f0 discovery board. Where can I download sample code for this board? 2016-05-10T13:35:52 < PeterM> true 2016-05-10T13:35:55 < Sync> dongs: don't they have a huge dc contactor? 2016-05-10T13:36:07 < dongs> sync, two 2016-05-10T13:36:10 < Sync> oh 2016-05-10T13:36:11 < Sync> interesting 2016-05-10T13:36:16 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-High-Voltage-12V-DC-Coil-DC-Contactor-/281801020919 2016-05-10T13:36:19 < dongs> took them out 2016-05-10T13:36:22 < dongs> ^ looks like that 2016-05-10T13:37:22 < Sync> neat 2016-05-10T13:37:32 < PeterM> anyway, 1a will take a while with those batts, even if they are 50% charged already, and makesure you disable capacity termination on the charger, because i dont think that shit goes up to 60ah 2016-05-10T13:38:16 < Sync> interesting 2016-05-10T13:38:21 < Sync> calsonic as the bms OEM 2016-05-10T13:38:23 < Sync> never seen those 2016-05-10T13:38:51 < Sync> I also wonder what kind of software they use down there 2016-05-10T13:39:06 < dongs> turdpedia has a nice write up on the bms http://www.electricvehiclewiki.com/BMS#NEC_D15110_BMS_IC 2016-05-10T13:39:06 < Sync> the automotive pcbs all look the same since about 20 years ago 2016-05-10T13:39:25 < dongs> that proc is some NEC 32bit trash 2016-05-10T13:41:15 < PeterM> sync doesnt everyone usually farm everything out to bosch these days? 2016-05-10T13:41:48 < dongs> bosch is not japanese enough 2016-05-10T13:41:49 < dongs> for nissan 2016-05-10T13:42:20 < dongs> cells are jap too 2016-05-10T13:42:22 < dongs> AESC or something 2016-05-10T13:44:03 < Sync> PeterM: not the japs 2016-05-10T13:44:25 < Sync> mitsu even still runs their own motorola cloner trash ASICs 2016-05-10T13:44:26 < PeterM> nissan must really love the glorious nippon-koku, because iirc toyota use a lot of bosch stuff 2016-05-10T13:44:43 < Sync> toyota is also full of denso crap 2016-05-10T13:45:25 < Sync> but yeah a lot runs bosch now 2016-05-10T13:45:42 < Sync> I think there is only delphi and denso left that make OEM ecus 2016-05-10T13:47:27 < dongs> fuckin hell the new charger requires balance lead 2016-05-10T13:47:33 < dongs> i guess i lop off from a deadbadd 2016-05-10T13:47:41 < dongs> even for non-balance chargfe 2016-05-10T13:47:49 < Sync> dumb 2016-05-10T13:50:54 -!- jara [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-10T13:51:16 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-175-85.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-10T13:53:13 < ReadError> north koreans are so brainfucked' 2016-05-10T13:55:55 < dongs> readstoner did y ou peek at my lipo haul 2016-05-10T13:56:34 < ReadError> naw 2016-05-10T13:56:53 < ReadError> get that car battery auction? 2016-05-10T13:56:55 < dongs> scroll up and be jealous 2016-05-10T13:57:04 < dongs> < dongs> speaking of batteries, today's loot: http://imgur.com/a/vpbfH 2016-05-10T13:57:15 < ReadError> oh damn 2016-05-10T13:57:23 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-175-85.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T13:58:17 < ReadError> how many volts is each 'cell' 2016-05-10T13:59:05 < PeterM> its 2s2p 2016-05-10T13:59:26 < ReadError> damn thats all? how many mah 2016-05-10T13:59:43 < PeterM> each is 30,000 2016-05-10T13:59:55 < PeterM> so each "cell" is a 2s 60ah cell 2016-05-10T14:00:05 < ReadError> damn nuts 2016-05-10T14:00:10 < qyx> much amps 2016-05-10T14:01:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T14:01:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-10T14:01:08 < PeterM> each cell has a max continuous power of 1875w or something 2016-05-10T14:01:27 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-10T14:01:47 < PeterM> so like 240A~ 2016-05-10T14:03:15 < dongs> i might have to upgrade the esc in quad 2016-05-10T14:03:22 < dongs> i think it does artificial throttling for shittySLA 2016-05-10T14:03:38 < PeterM> replace current shunt wiht offcut of busbar 2016-05-10T14:04:18 < dongs> haha 2016-05-10T14:05:29 < dongs> k putting 1A in 2016-05-10T14:05:35 < dongs> i guess at 60Ah i'll be there for a whie 2016-05-10T14:06:06 < Sync> liek 60h 2016-05-10T14:06:15 < Sync> moar! 2016-05-10T14:06:29 < dongs> well its not fully discharged 2016-05-10T14:06:32 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-10T14:06:33 < dongs> every sell i measeured was at 7.82V 2016-05-10T14:06:37 < dongs> like all of them 2016-05-10T14:06:43 < dongs> which means they kept their balance pretty well already 2016-05-10T14:07:17 < dongs> i wonder what kinda inverter / charger i could nigger up to use the 24S pack for house battery backup 2016-05-10T14:07:24 < dongs> its 200VDC fully charged 2016-05-10T14:07:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-10T14:08:15 < PeterM> if your running anything that has a SMPS you could probably jsut stick the 200vdc straight into it 2016-05-10T14:08:56 < PeterM> unless your stuff is 100v/110v/120v only, rather than 110/220v 2016-05-10T14:09:48 < qyx> my notebook charger was happy with 200vdc 2016-05-10T14:09:54 < dongs> heh 2016-05-10T14:10:25 < zyp> yeah, first step of AC/DC SMPS is usually a rectifier anyway 2016-05-10T14:10:42 < BrainDamage> PFC might get pissed with dc tought 2016-05-10T14:11:04 < Sync> yeah most of them are like ???? 2016-05-10T14:15:31 < PeterM> depends on the type of pfc 2016-05-10T14:16:03 < PeterM> bridgeless pfc doesnt like it that much 2016-05-10T14:17:04 < dongs> http://hybridautocenter.com/HAC4/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=101&name=lithium-ion-pack-of-7-battery-modules-60ah-58-8v-nissan-leaf&Itemid=605 2016-05-10T14:17:07 < dongs> lul 2016-05-10T14:17:11 < dongs> i think that was the place i was looking at last time 2016-05-10T14:17:26 < PeterM> ya 2016-05-10T14:17:32 < dongs> at those prices, my shit would cost 6k 2016-05-10T14:17:48 < dongs> but their hardware is nice 2016-05-10T14:17:56 < dongs> i wonder wehre they got those 2016-05-10T14:18:02 < dongs> or its the center tall pack cut up 2016-05-10T14:18:20 < dongs> wait, this shit is not lipo? 2016-05-10T14:18:23 < dongs> its some weird chem? 2016-05-10T14:18:37 < PeterM> its lipo 2016-05-10T14:18:49 < dongs> waht is this limn2o4 shit 2016-05-10T14:19:23 < PeterM> one of the many chemistries used for lipo batts 2016-05-10T14:20:21 < PeterM> limn, lico, linimnco 2016-05-10T14:31:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-10T14:33:13 < dongs> battery went up 0.05V in 30 minutes 2016-05-10T14:37:01 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T14:52:45 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-10T15:03:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T15:20:32 < dongs> https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*Gxyrlu41qHNbZAPdoxR7_w.jpeg 2016-05-10T15:23:10 < Ecco> Crap 2016-05-10T15:24:00 < Ecco> How inaccurate is it to guesstimate a LiPo charge level via its voltage? 2016-05-10T15:24:19 < ReadError> full is easy 2016-05-10T15:24:32 < ReadError> but when it gets to the bottom shit just drops out fast 2016-05-10T15:24:32 < Ecco> Indeed, because it drops to 3.7 pretty quickly 2016-05-10T15:24:44 < ReadError> depends on the cell though 2016-05-10T15:24:48 < ReadError> and the load you have on it 2016-05-10T15:24:54 < Ecco> I'm concerned about warning the user when the cell is close to being empty 2016-05-10T15:25:07 < Ecco> Should I bother hooking the ADC or will it just not work at all? 2016-05-10T15:25:38 < PeterM> ecco, near impossible 2016-05-10T15:27:00 < Laurenceb_> freaking finally 2016-05-10T15:27:01 < PeterM> some lipos have very linear curves, others are brickwall 2016-05-10T15:27:01 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/lTtZlCM.png 2016-05-10T15:27:04 < Laurenceb_> shit all works 2016-05-10T15:27:33 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-10T15:27:47 < dongs> Laurenceb_: horseshit? 2016-05-10T15:27:55 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-10T15:29:04 < Laurenceb_> gyro offset looks like about 4degrees/s 2016-05-10T15:29:07 < ReadError> Ecco maybe you can use a shunt? 2016-05-10T15:30:20 < PeterM> http://www.linear.com/product/LTC4150 2016-05-10T15:31:28 < Laurenceb_> inb4 ECG quadcopter 2016-05-10T15:32:57 < mitrax> Ecco: there's also http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/389/DM00066800-471048.pdf slightly cheaper than the LTC4150 2016-05-10T15:32:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T15:33:05 < Ecco> I really don't need something as complicated as a gas gauge 2016-05-10T15:34:26 < Ecco> And I'd really like something very cheap 2016-05-10T15:37:15 < knielsen> Ecco: You can at least detect when the lipo is close to the minimum voltage, at which it needs to be disconnected to not be damaged (around 3-3.3V depending on who you ask, I think) 2016-05-10T15:37:30 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-10T15:37:58 < Ecco> Now the ADC in the STM32 can measure voltage between - Vref and + Vref 2016-05-10T15:38:07 < knielsen> Ecco: And if you have the opportunity, you might be able to train your system to the discharge curve of the battery (store the voltage/time graph, and use it for the next discharge cycle) 2016-05-10T15:38:15 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-10T15:38:23 < knielsen> Ecco: though the voltage also depends on the current load 2016-05-10T15:38:27 < dongs> gas gauge 2016-05-10T15:38:40 < Ecco> yes, but the load will be very small and nearly constant 2016-05-10T15:38:54 < Ecco> dongs: yeah, I know, that's the "right" answer 2016-05-10T15:39:07 < Ecco> but look, that ST one sells for over $1 per 6000 units 2016-05-10T15:41:06 < ReadError> is this for your calculator? 2016-05-10T15:41:17 < ReadError> if you arent making a fuckload why cheap out on parts 2016-05-10T15:43:45 < Ecco> That's true 2016-05-10T15:53:15 < dongs> hes m aking one 2016-05-10T15:53:16 < dongs> if even 2016-05-10T16:13:03 < dongs> what teh fuck 2016-05-10T16:13:10 < dongs> why gnuturdmake on win32 ignoring -j option 2016-05-10T16:14:58 < dongs> oh its not 2016-05-10T16:15:03 < dongs> shit is just slow as fuck regardless 2016-05-10T16:15:09 < dongs> retarded fucking opensores trash 2016-05-10T16:15:34 < Sync> well no shit as it compiles ALL files concurrently 2016-05-10T16:15:40 < dongs> no 2016-05-10T16:15:42 < dongs> it doesnt 2016-05-10T16:15:45 < dongs> cpu still at like 7% 2016-05-10T16:15:47 < dongs> all 64 cores 2016-05-10T16:16:30 < zyp> uh, wat? 2016-05-10T16:16:51 < dongs> project is just retarded thats why 2016-05-10T16:16:58 < dongs> lots of small .cpp files in a million folders 2016-05-10T16:17:01 < dongs> make cant parallelize it i guess 2016-05-10T16:17:29 < Rob235_> mornin 2016-05-10T16:17:39 < ReadError> setup ccache 2016-05-10T16:17:41 < dongs> zyp, did you see 2016-05-10T16:17:48 < zyp> leaf battery? 2016-05-10T16:17:49 < dongs> my llvm stm32f1 compile testing 2016-05-10T16:17:50 < dongs> no 2016-05-10T16:17:52 < zyp> oh 2016-05-10T16:17:53 < zyp> no 2016-05-10T16:17:54 < dongs> its a complete fucking disaster 2016-05-10T16:17:59 < dongs> official arm compiler = absolute garbage 2016-05-10T16:18:06 < dongs> v6 llvm-based 40k larger code size 2016-05-10T16:18:12 < dongs> -O0 doesnt evne fit in flash anymore 2016-05-10T16:18:18 < dongs> have to use O1 2016-05-10T16:18:24 < dongs> O3 results in like 40k bigger .bin 2016-05-10T16:18:28 < dongs> vs v5 armcc 2016-05-10T16:18:37 < dongs> complete shitheap 2016-05-10T16:19:20 < zyp> -O0 is useless for real world shit, -O3 is deliberately sacrificing size for speed 2016-05-10T16:19:27 < dongs> doesnt matter 2016-05-10T16:19:29 < dongs> O2 wasnt any better 2016-05-10T16:19:33 < dongs> O2 was 2k bigger 2016-05-10T16:19:38 < zyp> if you want to compare size, use -Os 2016-05-10T16:19:39 < dongs> than O3 2016-05-10T16:19:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-10T16:19:44 < dongs> nope 2016-05-10T16:19:52 < zyp> or idk, that's how gcc is at least 2016-05-10T16:20:13 < dongs> there's no -Os 2016-05-10T16:20:24 < dongs> -Omax (beta), -Ofast, and O0-O3 2016-05-10T16:20:29 < dongs> point is, all those are garbage 2016-05-10T16:20:37 < dongs> 40k at max/best optimization = fuck off 2016-05-10T16:20:40 < dongs> 40k bigger 2016-05-10T16:20:42 < dongs> than armccc 2016-05-10T16:20:51 < dongs> lunix infested keil 2016-05-10T16:20:58 < dongs> will not be renweing my license 2016-05-10T16:21:02 < dongs> if they ever drop armcc completly 2016-05-10T16:21:17 -!- __rob [~rob@host109-153-137-249.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T16:21:20 < zyp> clang manual says -Os for size 2016-05-10T16:21:24 < zyp> like gcc 2016-05-10T16:21:29 < __rob> anyone know if my stlink will work on a cypress arm mcu ? 2016-05-10T16:21:38 < dongs> rob, with openocd probably 2016-05-10T16:21:46 < dongs> after copious dicking 2016-05-10T16:21:48 < __rob> that'll do 2016-05-10T16:21:51 < zyp> apparently there's an -Oz as well 2016-05-10T16:22:08 < zyp> "-Oz is like -Os (and thus -O2), but reduces code size further." 2016-05-10T16:23:10 < zyp> dongs, so anyway, is the input completely identical, or are they linking in different libs? 2016-05-10T16:23:30 < zyp> as in, do they use the same or different libc implementations? 2016-05-10T16:23:39 < dongs> identical 2016-05-10T16:23:42 < dongs> i just changed compilers 2016-05-10T16:23:47 < dongs> zyp, keil has their own libc 2016-05-10T16:23:49 < dongs> 'microlib' 2016-05-10T16:23:55 < zyp> which is used in either case? 2016-05-10T16:23:59 < dongs> same 2016-05-10T16:24:04 < zyp> hmm, ok 2016-05-10T16:24:09 < Laurenceb_> I spoke too soon 2016-05-10T16:24:17 < Laurenceb_> aids1298 is misbehaving again 2016-05-10T16:24:19 < zyp> wonder what makes the difference then 2016-05-10T16:24:32 < dongs> zyp, the fact that opensores is trash 2016-05-10T16:24:42 < zyp> also, you say 40k bigger, how big is the full binary? 2016-05-10T16:24:59 < dongs> hold on im rerunning it again. 2016-05-10T16:25:04 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T16:25:10 < metRo_> hi all 2016-05-10T16:25:22 < dongs> Program Size: Code=64500 RO-data=11764 RW-data=1016 ZI-data=12040 2016-05-10T16:25:28 < dongs> this is my reference armcc -O3 / release build 2016-05-10T16:25:34 < zyp> okay 2016-05-10T16:25:39 < dongs> so binary is 64k+11k+?? i geuss 2016-05-10T16:25:41 < metRo_> I;m trying to use the stm32 CDC library 2016-05-10T16:25:53 < metRo_> I'm able to send data\ 2016-05-10T16:25:59 < zyp> 64k+11k+1k 2016-05-10T16:26:03 < metRo_> but I'm a little confused on how to read the input data 2016-05-10T16:26:26 < zyp> anything except ZI-data (.bss) is stored in flash 2016-05-10T16:26:29 < dongs> Program Size: Code=90096 RO-data=13132 RW-data=140 ZI-data=13028 here's -Os llvm 2016-05-10T16:26:49 < dongs> Program Size: Code=104704 RO-data=12672 RW-data=668 ZI-data=12652 here's O3 llvm 2016-05-10T16:27:39 < dongs> Program Size: Code=77064 RO-data=13132 RW-data=668 ZI-data=12684 Oz llvm 2016-05-10T16:27:52 < dongs> hmpf, well, a bit better 2016-05-10T16:27:59 < mitrax> dongs: are you sure it's not linking unused stuff? similarly to what you get with gcc if you omit --gc-sections in the linker and -fdata-sections -ffunction-sections when compiling? 2016-05-10T16:28:00 < dongs> but still >10k larger code size 2016-05-10T16:28:06 < dongs> mitrax: its keil, it doesnt have unused stuff 2016-05-10T16:28:10 < zyp> mitrax, that's what I wondered as well 2016-05-10T16:28:15 < dongs> dont know, i'm using thier compiler as-os 2016-05-10T16:28:16 < dongs> is 2016-05-10T16:28:36 < Ecco> I didn't know about clang's -Oz. Thanks dong 2016-05-10T16:28:47 < dongs> ecco, its llvm thing, nto gcc. 2016-05-10T16:28:53 < dongs> i dont know it either, ask zyp. 2016-05-10T16:29:09 < Ecco> I know. I said clang, not gcc :) 2016-05-10T16:29:12 < zyp> difference sounds too big to be identical input 2016-05-10T16:29:19 < dongs> zyp, same project 2016-05-10T16:29:36 < dongs> zyp, gcc have consitently compiled it 20k+ larger 2016-05-10T16:29:37 < Ecco> whta's ZI data? 2016-05-10T16:29:42 < zyp> .bss 2016-05-10T16:29:43 < dongs> zeroed data 2016-05-10T16:29:46 < Ecco> zero-initialized? 2016-05-10T16:29:48 < zyp> yes 2016-05-10T16:29:51 < Ecco> Why do you care about its size at all? 2016-05-10T16:29:59 < dongs> i dont, it just prints it out 2016-05-10T16:30:00 < zyp> it consumes ram 2016-05-10T16:30:04 < dongs> and ^ that 2016-05-10T16:30:04 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-10T16:30:06 < Ecco> zyp: indeed 2016-05-10T16:30:25 < zyp> code+RO+RW goes into flash, RW+ZI goes into ram 2016-05-10T16:30:31 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-10T16:31:03 < Ecco> BTW, 12k of bss seems huge 2016-05-10T16:31:16 < zyp> not really 2016-05-10T16:31:27 < Ecco> I can't figure out a simple use case for this 2016-05-10T16:31:40 < zyp> for what? 2016-05-10T16:31:58 < Ecco> I realize I don't have an example of some C code that would end up in BSS 2016-05-10T16:32:07 < zyp> any global that's not initialized to anything other than 0 ends up in .bss 2016-05-10T16:32:13 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-10T16:32:31 < zyp> since every global is default initialized to 0 2016-05-10T16:32:33 < Ecco> So isn't it weird to have 12k of uninitiliazed globals? 2016-05-10T16:32:47 < zyp> they are not uninitialized, they are zero-initialized 2016-05-10T16:32:50 < Rickta59> char buff[12*1024]; ... 2016-05-10T16:32:52 < Rickta59> not really 2016-05-10T16:32:53 < mitrax> Ecco: if you have buffers not really 2016-05-10T16:33:05 < Ecco> oh, ok I see 2016-05-10T16:33:15 < qyx> anyone into github? is the bandwith limit applicable for open-source organizations? 2016-05-10T16:33:25 < qyx> there is something like 0 of 1GB/month used 2016-05-10T16:33:27 < Ecco> there's a bandwidth limit in GitHub? 2016-05-10T16:33:37 < Ecco> Maybe it's because of Homebrew? 2016-05-10T16:33:44 < dongs> qyx, tehre's fair-use shit but its something high 2016-05-10T16:33:49 < dongs> you wont hit it 2016-05-10T16:34:12 < qyx> http://static1.squarespace.com/static/537a8453e4b03cc18c536406/t/56db924b27d4bd867dd4a391/1457230456624/ 2016-05-10T16:34:16 < qyx> I mean this 2016-05-10T16:34:24 < qyx> or is it only for that lfs thing? 2016-05-10T16:34:30 < Ecco> That's their weird large-file-storage extension shit 2016-05-10T16:34:35 < qyx> okay 2016-05-10T16:36:50 < dongs> huh 2016-05-10T16:36:52 < dongs> make -j works 2016-05-10T16:36:59 < dongs> make -j doensnt 2016-05-10T16:37:03 < dongs> fucking opensores trash 2016-05-10T16:37:11 < dongs> -j blank uses 90% cpu and builds in 6 seconds 2016-05-10T16:37:14 < mitrax> dongs: weird, it works here 2016-05-10T16:37:21 < dongs> -j 64 uses like 7% cpu and takes 40 sec to buid 2016-05-10T16:37:49 < Ecco> well, unless you have 64 cores and very fast IO, that doesn't surprise me at all 2016-05-10T16:37:57 < dongs> i do 2016-05-10T16:37:58 < Ecco> Here your build process is clearly IO bound 2016-05-10T16:38:07 < dongs> then why does -j builds in 6 seconds? 2016-05-10T16:38:17 < Ecco> and you're just worsening the situation by asking tons of simulataneous compilations 2016-05-10T16:38:24 < Rickta59> -j alone means don't limit the max # of jobs 2016-05-10T16:38:31 < dongs> so it just starts over 9000 of htem? 2016-05-10T16:38:49 < Rickta59> assuming you have 9000 targets that can be built concurrently .. 2016-05-10T16:38:54 < dongs> ok 2016-05-10T16:38:59 < dongs> this garbage probably does 2016-05-10T16:39:07 < dongs> theres a million folders with a single .cpp/.h in it 2016-05-10T16:39:17 < dongs> because ~reasons~ 2016-05-10T16:39:26 < dongs> anyway whaever, 6s, done 2016-05-10T16:43:47 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngreyallftdfeyfo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T16:49:20 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T16:50:08 < Ecco> When resetting an STM32, is the RAM kept or is it zeroed-out? 2016-05-10T16:50:52 < dongs> technically, undefined. 2016-05-10T16:50:54 < dongs> it is kept tho. 2016-05-10T16:51:19 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-10T16:51:37 < Ecco> I found no mention about this in the datasheet 2016-05-10T16:51:38 < PeterM> if oyu hold it in reset for too long you can't reallyu trust the contents of it - but "too long" is like hours 2016-05-10T16:51:57 < Ecco> PeterM: interensting. How comes? 2016-05-10T16:52:49 < PeterM> you're not refreshing the data in it and it has no ecc 2016-05-10T16:52:58 < PaulFertser> PeterM: SRAM doesn't need refreshing 2016-05-10T16:53:02 < PeterM> sure its made from flipflops 2016-05-10T16:53:51 < Ecco> Yeah, so how comes it would die out eventually? 2016-05-10T16:53:51 < BrainDamage> even if it's a not loop it doesn't 2016-05-10T16:54:03 < BrainDamage> as long as it's a positive feedback loop it's self sustaining 2016-05-10T16:54:50 < PeterM> sick cosmic rays 2016-05-10T16:55:02 < BrainDamage> those happends even for active powered devices 2016-05-10T16:55:08 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-10T16:55:09 < BrainDamage> being in reset won't change anything 2016-05-10T16:55:44 < PeterM> 'but if you refresh the data in the sram, liek you would during normal usage when you read to it etc it will over write the flipped bits 2016-05-10T16:56:36 < PeterM> in reset it jsut sits there accumulating ~potentially~ flipped bits 2016-05-10T16:56:47 < BrainDamage> read doesn't refresh data on a sram, the positive feedback loop is already strong enough to keep the state stable 2016-05-10T16:56:58 < BrainDamage> it's either flipped, or it recovers to the stable state 2016-05-10T16:57:14 < BrainDamage> assuming an external glitch 2016-05-10T16:57:43 < BrainDamage> and if it's flipped, that you're reading or not changes nothing, it's a wrong bit 2016-05-10T16:58:14 < BrainDamage> whenever you read it after 1 min or after 1h changes only the accumulated probability of bit flip 2016-05-10T16:58:19 < PeterM> i said "read to it", which is bad english, because i was thinkign of reading from a periph to memory 2016-05-10T16:59:52 < Rob235_> hmm, if my ws2812 signal wire is longer than like 6" the leds mess up (wrong color), is there anyway to fix this? 2016-05-10T16:59:59 < dongs> yes 2016-05-10T17:00:07 < dongs> add a resistor to gnd 2016-05-10T17:00:18 < Rob235_> how big> 2016-05-10T17:01:00 < dongs> i added 249R 2016-05-10T17:01:03 < dongs> but wahtever 2016-05-10T17:01:13 < dongs> like 330R or anything 2016-05-10T17:01:46 < Rob235_> ok thanks 2016-05-10T17:03:09 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T17:11:09 < Rob235_> I added a 390 and its worse 2016-05-10T17:11:14 < dongs> sux4u 2016-05-10T17:12:39 < Ecco> I'd like to trigger a hardware reset on a long key press 2016-05-10T17:12:48 < Ecco> Is there an easy way to achieve that? 2016-05-10T17:13:06 < dongs> yes, detect long key press and set resetbit in AIRCR 2016-05-10T17:13:22 < Ecco> yeah, but that wouldn't get me out of DFU for example 2016-05-10T17:13:27 < dongs> ? 2016-05-10T17:13:39 < mitrax> i think he means hardware reset with NRST not soft reset 2016-05-10T17:13:50 < Ecco> yeah, sorry for the bad vocabulary 2016-05-10T17:13:52 < dongs> yes it would get out of DFU 2016-05-10T17:13:58 < dongs> i dont know what he means 2016-05-10T17:14:00 < dongs> software reset is fine 2016-05-10T17:14:21 < Ecco> ok, let me rephrase 2016-05-10T17:14:26 < Ecco> Suppose you boot in DFU mode 2016-05-10T17:14:39 < mitrax> dongs: he means if he's in the built-in bootloader 2016-05-10T17:14:46 < Ecco> my understanding is that the only way to get out of DFU is to reset the device (or to send the proper command over USB) 2016-05-10T17:14:47 < dongs> there's a command in bootloader to reboot. 2016-05-10T17:15:16 < dongs> jump to code or wahtever 2016-05-10T17:15:17 < Ecco> yeah, but shit can happen where the user unplugs the USB cable before sending the right command 2016-05-10T17:15:22 < mitrax> yeah but since it's battery powered if the usb gets unplugged and the command didn't get sent it won't work 2016-05-10T17:15:44 < dongs> write your own bootloader that handles that 2016-05-10T17:16:00 < dongs> if usb getrs unplugged 2016-05-10T17:16:04 < dongs> and your userspace is half written 2016-05-10T17:16:06 < dongs> you're fucked either way 2016-05-10T17:16:11 < dongs> whether you long press to reset or nto 2016-05-10T17:16:15 < dongs> so how is that any diffferent? 2016-05-10T17:16:15 < mitrax> Ecco: dongs right you probably want to write your own bootloader 2016-05-10T17:16:31 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-10T17:16:56 < Ecco> Out of curiosity, what would be the typical speed of a DFU upload? 2016-05-10T17:17:15 < Ecco> Does it max out the 12Mbit/s of the USB port? Or is it way slower? 2016-05-10T17:17:22 < dongs> lool 2016-05-10T17:17:24 < dongs> its like 2016-05-10T17:17:29 < dongs> about same speed as serial 2016-05-10T17:17:37 < dongs> as serial bootlaoder that is 2016-05-10T17:17:41 < dongs> its limited by flash writing speed 2016-05-10T17:17:41 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-10T17:17:45 < dongs> and erase/program cycle shit 2016-05-10T17:17:46 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-10T17:17:51 < dongs> its not fast at all. 2016-05-10T17:18:05 < Ecco> In practice, how long would it take to flash a 512K STM32? 2016-05-10T17:18:09 < Ecco> like a minute? 2016-05-10T17:18:14 < dongs> probly less 2016-05-10T17:18:14 < Sync> wat 2016-05-10T17:18:16 < Sync> ye 2016-05-10T17:18:49 < mitrax> i'd say 20 sec or so 2016-05-10T17:19:05 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-10T17:19:06 < Ecco> thanksè 2016-05-10T17:19:08 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-10T17:19:17 < dongs> definitely not 20 sec 2016-05-10T17:19:26 < dongs> 20 sec is what it takes to program 80% full F103CB 2016-05-10T17:19:29 < dongs> and thats ~90k 2016-05-10T17:19:54 < dongs> or 100k or wahtever 2016-05-10T17:20:39 < mitrax> hm ok, i assumed it would be at fast as flashing with SWD 2016-05-10T17:21:08 < dongs> it wlil be around that yes, but have you flashed a 512k full F4 with swd? 2016-05-10T17:21:17 < mitrax> yup 2016-05-10T17:21:35 < dongs> mayeb with jlink/jflash it would be that fast 2016-05-10T17:21:36 < mitrax> it didn't seem to take much longer than 20 sec but maybe i'm super bad at estimating time, i didn't time it 2016-05-10T17:22:53 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T17:23:04 < qyx> wrote 49152 bytes from file ubload_f4discovery.elf in 2.207483s (21.744 KiB/s) 2016-05-10T17:23:33 < dongs> mkay, 25 seconds-ish eh 2016-05-10T17:27:45 < mitrax> yeah 21.3 sec to upload 626kb on a STM32F429 through SWD 2016-05-10T17:28:40 < zyp> different parts have different flash write speeds 2016-05-10T17:29:43 < emeb> and different programmers have different speeds too - ST-Link vs J-Link, etc. 2016-05-10T17:29:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T17:30:14 < zyp> yeah 2016-05-10T17:30:35 < zyp> IIRC bmp does somewhere between 40-50 kB/s on f4 2016-05-10T17:32:44 < qyx> mhm, this was stlink on the F4 discovery 2016-05-10T17:32:52 < emeb> I've got a ~100kB .bin on an F303 that takes 6sec via BMP. 2016-05-10T17:33:08 < mitrax> BMP? 2016-05-10T17:33:27 < mitrax> black magic probe? 2016-05-10T17:33:53 < emeb> yup 2016-05-10T17:34:09 < emeb> with fairly recent firmware 2016-05-10T17:35:38 < karlp> Rickta59: -j is _meant_ to run as many jobs as it thinks would work. 2016-05-10T17:35:49 < karlp> some projects build better with _just_ -j, some build a lot worse. 2016-05-10T17:38:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T17:39:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-10T17:42:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-10T17:45:05 -!- Tekkkz [~pc@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T17:52:07 < Rickta59> karlp i think it looks the the dependencies to see what can run concurrently * guessing not know for sure 2016-05-10T17:52:39 < Rickta59> karlp i think it looks at the dependencies to see what can run concurrently * I'm guessing I don't know for sure 2016-05-10T17:52:54 < Rickta59> * hates a tiny little view window to edit in 2016-05-10T17:54:26 < karlp> hm, evtest /dev/mygamepad is just spewing events. 2016-05-10T17:54:36 < karlp> I guess that's noise on an anlog joystick? 2016-05-10T17:58:06 < emeb> Tried a couple alternate flashing methods: stlink v2 + openocd = 4.9s, stlink v2.1 + openocd = 4.7s 2016-05-10T17:58:28 < emeb> vs 6.3s w/ BMP 2016-05-10T17:59:36 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-05-10T18:05:29 < ReadError> emeb where did jlink stack up 2016-05-10T18:05:34 < karlp> now then, where did I put my usb-A<->usb-A cable? 2016-05-10T18:06:24 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vudfxfssjjfjksvm] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:06:54 < emeb> ReadError: dunno where my J-Link is ATM. I'd just be running it thru openocd though, so I suspect it'd be about the same as the stlinks... 2016-05-10T18:08:02 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-10T18:08:54 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:12:31 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:14:14 < emeb> ReadError: ah - found my jlink. 5.3s thru openocd. That's probably slower because jlink doesn't support hla_swd. 2016-05-10T18:18:17 < PeterM> karlp, im trying to think of the purpose of that 2016-05-10T18:19:17 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:19:17 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-10T18:19:17 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:19:36 < emeb> I've got an ancient Archos Jukebox Recorder that has a USB A connector on it even though it's a device, not host. 2016-05-10T18:20:07 < emeb> Apparently the designers thought that the USB B connector wouldn't fit the profile. 2016-05-10T18:20:28 < karlp> PeterM: it's how a lot of android tv boxes, rockhip at least, handle usb OTG :( 2016-05-10T18:20:33 < karlp> and yes, it's dumb as fuck. 2016-05-10T18:21:31 < karlp> fucking thing wants to be connected to a fucking screen at the same time. 2016-05-10T18:21:34 < karlp> tedious shits 2016-05-10T18:23:38 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/rqsjZq.jpg 2016-05-10T18:24:47 < PeterM> i thought the standard thing were these http://www.lunashops.com/images/upload/Image/micro-usb-to-female-1.jpg 2016-05-10T18:32:24 < karlp> yeah, that would make sense. 2016-05-10T18:35:12 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-10T18:35:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.28] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:37:09 < Rob235_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ezx65l2rh09car/20160510_113516.jpg?dl=0 I only cut out the first led (right) but you can see it shine through a bit with the red heat shrink (left) but as you see only the first red one lights up, is the second red heat shrinked led probably faulty? 2016-05-10T18:38:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T18:51:32 -!- Tekkkz [~pc@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-10T18:54:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T18:55:36 < ReadError> probably suffocated in all that heatshrink 2016-05-10T18:56:13 < ReadError> battery lead looks sketch as hell 2016-05-10T19:11:21 < Rob235_> fuck electronics 2016-05-10T19:11:25 < Rob235_> :) 2016-05-10T19:11:45 < ReadError> you should stagger the leads 2016-05-10T19:11:52 < ReadError> so you cant accidently bump them 2016-05-10T19:12:03 < ReadError> or use some xt-90 2016-05-10T19:12:03 < Rob235_> what do you mean 2016-05-10T19:12:09 < Rob235_> ohhh 2016-05-10T19:12:10 < ReadError> like make + shorter 2016-05-10T19:12:21 < Rob235_> yea thats a good idea 2016-05-10T19:12:22 < ReadError> on 1, longer on the other 2016-05-10T19:12:48 < Rob235_> I have to cut that anyway to put in my current/voltage sensor 2016-05-10T19:16:06 < Rob235_> ugh this is making me anxious, I don't know where to go from here 2016-05-10T19:16:17 < Rob235_> that was like 10 hours of work 2016-05-10T19:17:34 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-127-8.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T19:17:36 < ReadError> heatshrink? 2016-05-10T19:17:49 < Rob235_> wiring the leds and heat shrinking them 2016-05-10T19:17:55 < ReadError> put it in the air 2016-05-10T19:18:11 < ReadError> i throw some kapton around shit then rockoutwiththecockout 2016-05-10T19:18:44 < Rob235_> they aren't getting warm, could the heat shrink really be the problem? 2016-05-10T19:19:16 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-127-8.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-10T19:19:18 < ReadError> running on 12v? 2016-05-10T19:19:29 < Rob235_> 5 2016-05-10T19:19:54 < ReadError> oh right 2016-05-10T19:20:07 < ReadError> could be shitty solder joints 2016-05-10T19:20:10 < ReadError> if you flexed them 2016-05-10T19:20:23 < ReadError> ive had a bunch of china led get fucky from that 2016-05-10T19:21:04 < Rob235_> I've had that happen before, could be, how would you go about solving it?, start over? hah 2016-05-10T19:22:47 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-10T19:22:52 < ReadError> quit caring about looks 2016-05-10T19:23:02 < ReadError> its going to crash then you will be more butthurt and sad 2016-05-10T19:23:02 < Rob235_> I'm gonna expose the input leads on each arm and see what's fucked up 2016-05-10T19:23:13 < ReadError> so just fly it, wreck it, rebuild, repeat 2016-05-10T19:25:51 < PeterM> bob, have you flown a quad before? or even a fixie? 2016-05-10T19:27:56 < ReadError> even worse is hes flying his own FC hehe 2016-05-10T19:28:04 < ReadError> so that should be interesting 2016-05-10T19:29:23 < ReadError> hack in a failsafe FC ;) 2016-05-10T19:29:45 < Rob235_> haha no, everything about this project is new to me, never done a hardware project before and never flown a copter before 2016-05-10T19:29:59 < ReadError> oh you should prolly do that first 2016-05-10T19:30:08 < ReadError> throw a naze or something on it, get some hovers 2016-05-10T19:30:08 < Rob235_> simulator is good enough :) 2016-05-10T19:30:14 < ReadError> orientation etc 2016-05-10T19:30:32 < ReadError> its gonna turn sideways and you will freak out 2016-05-10T19:30:58 < Rob235_> I'll limit it to max of like 5 degrees of tilt at first or something 2016-05-10T19:31:39 < Rob235_> thats actually not a bad idea 2016-05-10T19:31:46 < ReadError> ehhh 2016-05-10T19:32:04 < ReadError> you wont have any authority over it then 2016-05-10T19:32:32 < Rob235_> just for a few min to get a feel of stuff, at least throttle, then I could slowly increase it 2016-05-10T19:33:29 < Rob235_> I don't know, I have other more important things to worry about.. like leds :) 2016-05-10T19:34:20 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-10T19:37:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T19:39:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T19:40:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T19:44:03 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T19:51:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-10T19:53:41 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T19:54:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T19:55:15 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-10T19:59:05 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/6UxsJjK.png 2016-05-10T20:01:25 < Rob235> would the heat from shrinking the heat shrink fuck up the led strip? 2016-05-10T20:01:40 < Rob235> or even the squeeze of the shrinking 2016-05-10T20:02:16 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-05-10T20:02:33 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T20:08:59 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/eqNYHZ3.png 2016-05-10T20:09:51 < Rob235> is that kevin bacon in hollow man? 2016-05-10T20:10:10 < Steffanx> im width ReadError. :P 2016-05-10T20:10:16 < Steffanx> with even. 2016-05-10T20:10:39 < Steffanx> can i bookmark that ReadError? 2016-05-10T20:10:52 < ReadError> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/Laurenceb.txt 2016-05-10T20:10:58 < ReadError> zypsnips! 2016-05-10T20:11:26 < Steffanx> oh lol 2016-05-10T20:12:14 < upgrdman> anyone know what standard this extended ASCII is? http://www.asciitable.com/index/extend.gif it's not Latin-1 2016-05-10T20:12:55 < ReadError> TOSHIBA ? 2016-05-10T20:13:59 < ReadError> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_code 2016-05-10T20:14:22 < Steffanx> it looks a bit like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437 2016-05-10T20:16:59 < ReadError> http://www.sra-solder.com/superior-syberkleen-2000-circuit-board-cleaner 2016-05-10T20:17:02 < ReadError> anyone used? 2016-05-10T20:17:06 < ReadError> or have any recommends? 2016-05-10T20:17:13 < ReadError> (ultrasonic cleaning) 2016-05-10T20:17:26 < Steffanx> Ground only. 2016-05-10T20:19:17 < ReadError> ya ;( 2016-05-10T20:21:18 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:23:47 < Laurenceb_> arg atupid aids1298 2016-05-10T20:24:10 < Laurenceb_> it has a current injection self test function at 62.5hz 2016-05-10T20:24:18 < Laurenceb_> thats too close to mains frequency 2016-05-10T20:24:33 < Laurenceb_> so self test fails due to mains noise :-/ 2016-05-10T20:25:21 < Steffanx> You're doing it wrong. 2016-05-10T20:26:49 < gxti> switch to superior american 60hz 2016-05-10T20:27:31 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-10T20:27:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.43] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:29:06 < Laurenceb_> I could probably haxor my own self test mode by DMAing a ton of commands into the config registers 2016-05-10T20:34:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d4261d.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:35:16 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T20:37:39 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@195a64b158c172.greendata.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:38:52 < Laurenceb_> but ultimately I can't see how this pos could ever work 2016-05-10T20:39:14 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ck@CPE0025905d4af0-CMbcc810160aa8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:39:35 < Laurenceb_> its trying to measure the effect of current injection into electrodes, but they have to be measured relative to other electrodes 2016-05-10T20:40:07 < Laurenceb_> its a paradox 2016-05-10T20:40:37 < Laurenceb_> probably a classic philosophical dilemma type problem 2016-05-10T20:42:03 < Laurenceb_> and I suck at that shit 2016-05-10T20:42:05 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:42:06 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:42:27 < Steffanx> time to go back to uni. 2016-05-10T20:42:34 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:43:01 < Laurenceb_> if you can't trust any of the electrodes... how can you measure anything 2016-05-10T20:43:07 * Laurenceb_ head explodes 2016-05-10T20:43:12 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-10T20:44:17 < Steffanx> Then you do some hypothesis, do some random tests and try to proof it. Then you use that to fix it. 2016-05-10T20:44:26 < Steffanx> That's how statistics works right? 2016-05-10T20:44:35 < Laurenceb_> yeah I think it requires more state machines 2016-05-10T20:44:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T20:44:56 < Laurenceb_> some sort of iterative experimental thing that explores hypotheses 2016-05-10T20:45:04 < Laurenceb_> yay even more complication 2016-05-10T20:45:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-10T20:59:50 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T21:08:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-10T21:08:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T21:11:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-cbb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T21:14:36 < BrainDamage> ReadError: i use 200ml deionized water + 5ml viakal 2016-05-10T21:24:14 < ReadError> hmm bathroom cleaner? 2016-05-10T21:24:20 < ReadError> on pcbs? 2016-05-10T21:25:02 < Laurenceb_> its more likely than you think 2016-05-10T21:25:14 < BrainDamage> it's essentially formic acid and phosophoric acid 2016-05-10T21:25:38 < BrainDamage> you could even use cocacola, but then you'd have the gunky mess of the sugar 2016-05-10T21:31:01 < upgrdman_> 470uF 4V MLCC... nice, except for the price http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?mpart=AMK432BJ477MM-T&v=587 2016-05-10T21:31:41 < upgrdman_> and like 50% cap derating at 3.3V 2016-05-10T21:31:44 < Rob235> baahahaha, it was only one led that was messed up in the first strip, replaced the first trip and they all work now 2016-05-10T21:36:31 < Rob235> black heatshrink is opaque but you can see the two leds I cut out on the right which is the end of the strip, now just 82 more to cut out... https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd730vn3is95deu/20160510_143350.jpg?dl=0 2016-05-10T21:39:31 < Rob235> you guys and your pessimism, hatin' on the heat shrink 2016-05-10T21:43:38 < Steffanx> Where is hate? 2016-05-10T21:43:45 < Steffanx> You saw our invisible conversation? 2016-05-10T21:44:56 < BrainDamage> to be fair it's not unreasonable to assume that subject is gonna be hated 2016-05-10T21:45:01 < BrainDamage> where x can be anythng 2016-05-10T21:48:22 < Rob235> haha yea 2016-05-10T21:48:41 < Rob235> trolls everywhere 2016-05-10T21:48:52 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vudfxfssjjfjksvm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-10T21:49:07 < Rob235> what movie to put on while I cut out all these leds... 2016-05-10T22:00:42 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-10T22:01:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T22:02:24 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T22:11:21 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-175-85.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-10T22:16:09 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T22:17:02 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-169-111-244.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T22:22:44 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-169-111-244.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-10T22:23:53 < Sync> dongs: is there a way to search japanese patents? 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faulty electrodes won't have ~0 common mode potential difference compared to it 2016-05-10T23:17:28 < BrainDamage> just average enough 2016-05-10T23:18:00 < Laurenceb_> yeah but the common mode can fail 2016-05-10T23:18:13 < BrainDamage> in that case everyone will also fail 2016-05-10T23:18:16 < BrainDamage> and you can detect it 2016-05-10T23:18:39 < Laurenceb_> also as there is 12x gain between the electrodes and the ADC, the ADC is referenced to "WCT", which is average of the first three electrodes 2016-05-10T23:18:57 < Laurenceb_> this is to prevent amplifier saturation due to large common mode 2016-05-10T23:19:13 < BrainDamage> o_O 2016-05-10T23:19:25 < Laurenceb_> yeah its a massive headache 2016-05-10T23:20:13 < Laurenceb_> I can't use DC current injection as its supposed to use polar electrode straps, which can only AC couple 2016-05-10T23:20:45 < BrainDamage> what's your bandwidth? 2016-05-10T23:20:54 < Laurenceb_> ~125hz 2016-05-10T23:22:46 < BrainDamage> chop off the dc at a non integer multiple of mains? say 90Hz, then do a syncronous detector 2016-05-10T23:23:51 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats sort of what I just tried 2016-05-10T23:24:07 < Laurenceb_> DMAing pullup/pulldown resistors onto the inputs 2016-05-10T23:24:10 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d41813.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T23:24:37 < Laurenceb_> unfortunately the DSP processing built into the ADC doesnt seem to like that 2016-05-10T23:24:40 < Sync> PCW: mesaflash reports the right fpga, at least 2016-05-10T23:24:43 < Sync> gah 2016-05-10T23:24:47 < Laurenceb_> too much jitter on the filtered signals 2016-05-10T23:25:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d4261d.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-10T23:29:49 < Laurenceb_> seems like an unsolvable problem given the hardware built into the ads1298 2016-05-10T23:32:57 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-10T23:35:25 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T23:38:10 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T23:40:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T23:45:26 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-10T23:46:05 < Laurenceb_> now I'm failing at git lol 2016-05-10T23:46:18 < Laurenceb_> how do I go back one commit and set that point as the new head? 2016-05-10T23:47:15 < qyx> git reset HEAD~1 ? 2016-05-10T23:47:24 < qyx> no 2016-05-10T23:47:28 < qyx> thats not what you want 2016-05-10T23:48:52 < qyx> maybe with --hard 2016-05-10T23:48:58 < Laurenceb_> so far I used git checkout 2016-05-10T23:49:14 < Laurenceb_> git reset --hard ? 2016-05-10T23:49:23 < Laurenceb_> will I lose anything that way? 2016-05-10T23:49:26 < qyx> yes 2016-05-10T23:49:31 < qyx> the last commit and all changes 2016-05-10T23:49:45 < qyx> git reset --hard HEAD~1 2016-05-10T23:49:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-10T23:49:49 < Laurenceb_> can't it be kept as a branch? 2016-05-10T23:49:56 < BrainDamage> use stash 2016-05-10T23:49:56 -!- bourbon [~rager@ecsta.cc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-10T23:50:00 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-05-10T23:50:31 < BrainDamage> yes and no, once nothing points to the commit it'll get gc'ed 2016-05-10T23:50:37 < qyx> or just checkout to a hash you want and create a new branch there 2016-05-10T23:50:39 < BrainDamage> it'll be effectively as good as lost 2016-05-10T23:50:48 < Laurenceb_> ok so I'm at the head 2016-05-10T23:50:50 < Laurenceb_> git stash 2016-05-10T23:50:59 < Laurenceb_> git checkout 2016-05-10T23:51:03 < Laurenceb_> then what? 2016-05-10T23:51:10 < Laurenceb_> yes to github 2016-05-10T23:51:23 < PaulFertser> Switch to bitkeeper now that it's freed ;) 2016-05-10T23:51:52 < Laurenceb_> now I can do git reset --hard Head~1 ? 2016-05-10T23:52:28 < BrainDamage> yes 2016-05-10T23:52:32 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-10T23:52:32 < qyx> yes 2016-05-10T23:52:37 < qyx> then push --force to github 2016-05-10T23:52:55 < qyx> and you have to disable branch protection, otherwise it will refuse to force push changes 2016-05-10T23:53:40 < BrainDamage> you might want to manually run git gc so the unrferenced object gets trashed, it's not necessary, it's just few kB junk on hd 2016-05-10T23:53:53 -!- Guest72319 [~rager@ecsta.cc] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-10T23:54:18 < BrainDamage> it'll eventually do it by itself too --- Day changed Wed May 11 2016 2016-05-11T00:07:28 < Laurenceb_> git push 2016-05-11T00:07:28 < Laurenceb_> fatal: You are not currently on a branch. 2016-05-11T00:07:40 < Laurenceb_> thats not right 2016-05-11T00:08:40 < Rob235> my hands hurt 2016-05-11T00:09:16 < Laurenceb_> my head hurts 2016-05-11T00:09:19 < Laurenceb_> stop fapping 2016-05-11T00:09:50 < Rob235> 17 more leds to cut out 2016-05-11T00:11:31 < Rob235> you stop fapping too 2016-05-11T00:11:43 < Laurenceb_> nice 2016-05-11T00:11:47 < Laurenceb_> I can't commit 2016-05-11T00:11:48 < Laurenceb_> # HEAD detached from 60d270f 2016-05-11T00:19:47 < BrainDamage> git checkout fucked you 2016-05-11T00:19:55 < BrainDamage> git checkout branchname 2016-05-11T00:20:07 < BrainDamage> then git reset 2016-05-11T00:20:30 < BrainDamage> also, it'd be nice if you'd screenshot your history 2016-05-11T00:20:36 < BrainDamage> just in case 2016-05-11T00:23:31 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-11T00:23:32 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10831855 2016-05-11T00:23:38 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-11T00:24:18 < BrainDamage> i said to show the history 2016-05-11T00:24:42 < BrainDamage> because i have no idea what condition is your repo in 2016-05-11T00:24:52 < BrainDamage> i have no psychic capabilities 2016-05-11T00:26:53 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T00:27:10 < Laurenceb_> heh nvm I've fixed it now 2016-05-11T00:27:13 < Laurenceb_> used some force 2016-05-11T00:27:23 < BrainDamage> how would sjhub tell me the state of HIS LOCAL REPO? 2016-05-11T00:28:02 < BrainDamage> except the mesage said fail to push 2016-05-11T00:28:11 < BrainDamage> so i wouldn't have known the state of his repo 2016-05-11T00:29:05 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T00:29:34 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T00:29:55 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T00:38:17 < Thorn> why not just git push -f 2016-05-11T00:42:23 < BrainDamage> git push -f is not the problem, the problem is that he fucked up rewinding the branch 2016-05-11T00:42:33 < BrainDamage> and somehow ended up in a detached state not in a branch 2016-05-11T00:54:09 < Laurenceb_> nvm I'll fix it tomorrow :P 2016-05-11T01:05:19 < lorenzo> when I fuck up with git I just rm -rf .git, delete the repo 2016-05-11T01:05:19 < lorenzo> and start over 2016-05-11T01:05:21 < lorenzo> who cares 2016-05-11T01:05:59 < Thorn> $ rm -rf . git 2016-05-11T01:06:07 < Thorn> git: No such file or directory 2016-05-11T01:06:14 < Thorn> time to start over 2016-05-11T01:11:46 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/LPdXl0L gettin there 2016-05-11T01:13:39 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ck@CPE0025905d4af0-CMbcc810160aa8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 2016-05-11T01:15:40 < Laurenceb_> ooh I may have had some luck 2016-05-11T01:15:56 < Laurenceb_> its not fully functional but works as long as debugger is disconnected 2016-05-11T01:16:25 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/ads1298.c line 380 2016-05-11T01:16:40 < Laurenceb_> nasty 1/50 second integration 2016-05-11T01:17:08 < Laurenceb_> still broken with debugger connected but then there is like a volt of common mode 2016-05-11T01:20:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-11T01:21:45 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=036Ems1z-o0 DAVE now has a DAVE-branded scope 2016-05-11T01:22:15 < Laurenceb_> when I fuck up with git I just rm -rf .git 2016-05-11T01:22:24 < Laurenceb_> why not try without the .git 2016-05-11T01:22:26 < Laurenceb_> /troll 2016-05-11T01:23:51 < Laurenceb_> ublox cam-8m is insane, getting 9sats on my desk with blinds drawn and ~4m from nearest window 2016-05-11T01:25:39 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T01:25:56 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-127-8.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-11T01:28:09 < Laurenceb_> highaltitude guys will never know what it's like to hang out of a window with a patch antenna raging at the gps module 2016-05-11T01:28:53 < BrainDamage> can't you use an active antenna outside and a cable? 2016-05-11T01:29:22 < BrainDamage> even an "high noise" of say 3-4 NF amp should work fine after the active antenna's lna 2016-05-11T01:29:39 < BrainDamage> then you can just throw cable at it 2016-05-11T01:30:34 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats what most of the highaltitude guys ended up doing <5 years ago 2016-05-11T01:31:24 < ds2> Laurenceb_: still looking at ballooning? 2016-05-11T01:32:21 < Laurenceb_> I'm bored of ballooning, haven't launched anything since 1009 2016-05-11T01:32:24 < Laurenceb_> *2009 2016-05-11T01:32:40 < Laurenceb_> I did 6 launches before that 2016-05-11T01:33:33 < Laurenceb_> only UBSEDS are doing anything innovative atm 2016-05-11T01:33:58 < Laurenceb_> the rest of them are launching boring cameras and raspberry pi 2016-05-11T01:35:00 < BrainDamage> that reminds me of the codec2 guy raging at highaltitude community 2016-05-11T01:35:06 < BrainDamage> for switching to lora 2016-05-11T01:35:52 < BrainDamage> http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=4850 see other projects part 3 2016-05-11T01:38:20 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/hab/flight/2016/04/30/ubseds15.html 2016-05-11T01:40:46 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-11T01:43:59 < BrainDamage> 433MHz ism type accepted modules to deal with regulations, then they modulated the baseband, i don't remember what they used 2016-05-11T01:44:53 < BrainDamage> usians just use APRS due to diff regulations 2016-05-11T01:45:53 < BrainDamage> what lora gives is something that works out the box with gigantic link budget 2016-05-11T01:46:17 < BrainDamage> also mesh networking capabilities 2016-05-11T01:46:45 < BrainDamage> their custom solution had pretty awesome results already with 900km links, but they were point to point 2016-05-11T01:47:52 < BrainDamage> the main problem of lora is that there's very little docs on the actual modulation informations packet format, etc 2016-05-11T01:47:57 -!- rmull [~rmull@nooperation.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T01:48:02 < BrainDamage> everything out there is from black box reverse engineering 2016-05-11T01:48:17 -!- rmull [~rmull@nooperation.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T01:52:52 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T01:54:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-11T01:56:43 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-11T01:59:50 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T02:06:08 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-11T02:19:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T02:28:44 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@195a64b158c172.greendata.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T02:33:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-11T02:33:49 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-11T02:41:11 < Thorn> http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-K2-terminated-speaker-cable/dp/B000J36XR2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top 2016-05-11T02:41:18 < Thorn> >My cats chewed on this cable and now they can both speak. One of them is gay and the other wants to kill me. I would have rather not known. 2016-05-11T02:47:06 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T02:49:11 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T02:51:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-11T02:54:29 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T03:01:00 < Thorn> I remember reading that hamburgers have as much energy per unit of mass as gasoline 2016-05-11T03:01:27 < Thorn> but somehow manage to not be explosive 2016-05-11T03:01:47 -!- Lux [~Luggi09@parabox.it-syndikat.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-11T03:07:19 -!- Lux [~Luggi09@parabox.it-syndikat.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T03:08:26 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T03:09:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T03:10:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T03:35:00 < Rob235> do bee do bee dooo 2016-05-11T03:36:51 < dongs> http://local15tv.com/news/nation-world/childs-light-up-shoes-catch-fire-in-familys-suv fucking americans trying to scam 2016-05-11T03:37:08 < dongs> http://imgur.com/9K9NRLU CR2032 doesn't have enough current source to burn shit 2016-05-11T03:38:42 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-11T03:38:58 < Rob235> dongs: haven't glued it down yet but: http://imgur.com/LPdXl0L 2016-05-11T03:47:07 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-11T04:21:42 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@2002:55d4:f57:0:1099:56da:8738:1462] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T04:24:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T04:24:40 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d41813.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-11T05:05:49 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-05-11T05:07:33 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T05:15:05 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T05:15:12 < machinehum> does anyone here use openocd 2016-05-11T05:15:14 < machinehum> ? 2016-05-11T05:15:22 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-11T05:15:33 < machinehum> already checked their irc no one around 2016-05-11T05:19:23 < machinehum> really 2016-05-11T05:19:26 < machinehum> hmm 2016-05-11T05:44:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-11T05:52:37 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-11T05:55:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T06:13:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/lithium-phosphate-battery-pack/ 2016-05-11T06:14:29 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Electronic-circuit-design-involving-LEDs/ wat 2016-05-11T06:14:40 < dongs> almost interesting but not for $250 CAD 2016-05-11T06:15:06 < dongs> job 4 stm8s003 2016-05-11T06:17:08 < jef79m> pretty sure blinking leds is a job for arduino. 2016-05-11T06:17:16 < dongs> not in 10x15mm 2016-05-11T06:17:26 < dongs> there's no tarduino that would fit on that board 2016-05-11T06:17:50 < dongs> http://www.spikenzielabs.com/Catalog/images/medium/LabsImages/ATMega328PwB_MED.jpg 2016-05-11T06:17:53 < dongs> this is smallest arduino 2016-05-11T06:20:40 < Rob235> bored... 2016-05-11T06:21:29 < ds2> bah... just get a blinking LED 2016-05-11T06:21:38 < ds2> waste of board space otherwise 2016-05-11T06:21:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Mobile-Phone/iOS-Ligntning-Port-pinout-connection/ 2016-05-11T06:21:43 < dongs> what the actual fuck 2016-05-11T06:22:47 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Soldering-sockets-for-Chips-Commodore/ job for ohsix 2016-05-11T06:23:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/vw8326147vw.html 2016-05-11T06:23:47 < dongs> lol the buyer on that 2016-05-11T06:24:11 < dongs> Over 24 years of experience in computer programming in C/C++ and Java. 2016-05-11T06:24:15 < dongs> he doesnt even look 24 years 2016-05-11T06:24:16 < dongs> old 2016-05-11T06:25:20 < upgrdman> TIL some douche bags use 21:9 monitors in portrait mode http://imgur.com/a/5P4OY 2016-05-11T06:25:44 < dongs> fucking gamers 2016-05-11T06:25:51 < dongs> i guess its good for irc scrolling 2016-05-11T06:26:24 < dongs> Project involves WiFi chip + PCB antenna, temperature sensor, light sensor, solar pannel, battery interface, battery charging circuit, and couple of more simple sensors. FYI, I had worked with circuit and PCB design but about 10 years back. So, I will be slightly better then newbey. 2016-05-11T06:26:30 < dongs> I need some nearby engineers who can help me to do this job, more a kind of training with a in hand project which I have to complete. 2016-05-11T06:26:33 < dongs> More over you need to be patient then getting hurly burly. 2016-05-11T06:27:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/jtag-xbox/ 2016-05-11T06:29:16 < dongs> oh, that really IS a job for ohsix 2016-05-11T06:29:20 < dongs> cuz that dude is in oregon 2016-05-11T06:32:52 < upgrdman> god damn it. why the fuck is brass square tube so expensive. like $2.50 for 300mm of 6mm tube. 2016-05-11T06:32:56 < englishman> o6 is in oregon? 2016-05-11T06:33:04 < englishman> all the pieces fall into place 2016-05-11T06:33:34 < englishman> he's not special, hes just a west coaster 2016-05-11T06:38:44 < lorenzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus 2016-05-11T06:38:49 < lorenzo> hahahaha 2016-05-11T06:40:43 < Rob235> 3704 lines of code 2016-05-11T06:40:49 < dongs> http://www.fastcodesign.com/3059681/budweiser-renames-its-beer-america is this for real 2016-05-11T06:49:58 < dongs> http://www.insecam.org/en/view/299145/ someoine 3d dicking 2016-05-11T06:50:29 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T07:03:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:89a0:9e2d:f0a2:71b4] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T07:09:14 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T07:11:32 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T07:11:33 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-11T07:26:45 < Rob235> hi 2016-05-11T07:45:08 < Rob235> you took too long, I'm going to sleep :) 2016-05-11T07:51:33 < jpa-> good morning lovely ##stm32 people 2016-05-11T08:01:15 < Rob235> jpa-: http://imgur.com/LPdXl0L gettin there 2016-05-11T08:02:45 < Rob235> I had too much caffeine today... 2016-05-11T08:03:36 < jpa-> now make it blink, hang it from the ceiling and look at it whole night 2016-05-11T08:04:11 < emeb_mac> http://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/229/335891-21009-125788-1-too-much-coffee-man.jpg 2016-05-11T08:05:23 < Rob235> One of the LEDs is bad and I have to replace it so I haven't tested my animation library yet but hopefully I'll get it working tomorrow 2016-05-11T08:14:12 < Rob235> zZz 2016-05-11T08:14:52 < Rob235> nite 2016-05-11T08:21:30 < Bright> crt: i like SMA connectors 2016-05-11T08:22:00 < jpa-> Bright: i bet you'd like kakimir 2016-05-11T08:22:45 < Bright> a shared love for rf connectors are the foundation of every solid relationship 2016-05-11T08:25:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-cbb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T08:28:31 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/117421627/the-peachy-printer-the-first-100-3d-printer-and-sc/posts/1572573 oh look another failed dickstarter 2016-05-11T08:31:12 < jpa-> can't bother to watch video, who stole what? 2016-05-11T08:31:21 < dongs> no idea, i didnt watch either 2016-05-11T08:31:57 < lorenzo> "Here’s a picture of the house David has built with your money:" 2016-05-11T08:32:03 < lorenzo> couldn't do anything but laugh at that sorry 2016-05-11T08:32:13 < dongs> haha 2016-05-11T08:32:16 < dongs> i didnt scroll that far 2016-05-11T08:32:25 < lorenzo> jpa-: project partner ran away with el dinero and built a house 2016-05-11T08:32:52 < jpa-> lol that went better than expected 2016-05-11T08:33:09 < dongs> do i need headphones to watch that video 2016-05-11T08:33:10 < jpa-> in a typical kickstarter they would just waste the money on xeons or something 2016-05-11T08:33:12 < dongs> is he gonna be sobbinb 2016-05-11T08:33:34 < lorenzo> "Congrats on the new house David! When I'm in Canada I'll make sure to stop by and see what I helped you buy." 2016-05-11T08:33:40 < Chris_M> lol 2016-05-11T08:33:40 < jpa-> the still shot definitely looks like he'll sob :) 2016-05-11T08:34:37 < jpa-> http://www.peachyprinter.com/ ah, more text here 2016-05-11T08:37:27 < lorenzo> I wonder if they're actually liable of something 2016-05-11T08:37:38 < dongs> nope 2016-05-11T08:37:41 < dongs> thats dickstarter for you 2016-05-11T08:38:03 < jpa-> lorenzo: not to backers, but the guy is probably in hole for fraud to the business partner 2016-05-11T08:50:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-cbb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-11T08:59:15 < dongs> sup crt 2016-05-11T08:59:19 < dongs> dickstarter? 2016-05-11T08:59:21 < dongs> yar 2016-05-11T09:02:42 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T09:03:02 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T09:04:59 < qyx> speaking of the codec2 guy 2016-05-11T09:05:11 < qyx> is there a floating point version yet? 2016-05-11T09:06:39 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-11T09:11:25 < qyx> cannot find anything :S 2016-05-11T09:14:10 -!- fada [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T09:14:27 < emeb_mac> floating pt version of what? 2016-05-11T09:15:09 < qyx> meh, I meant fixed point 2016-05-11T09:15:14 < qyx> codec2 2016-05-11T09:17:25 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@2002:55d4:f57:0:1099:56da:8738:1462] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-11T09:21:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-11T09:26:13 < ReadError> is there a decent 3d/2d gerber viewer 2016-05-11T09:26:19 < ReadError> gerbv is kinda ;( 2016-05-11T09:27:15 < ReadError> its so slow 2016-05-11T09:27:22 < ReadError> camtastic isnt too great either 2016-05-11T09:27:45 < rewolff1> qyx, laurenceb_, those are weird cells allright 65mm diameter, 19mm thick! Odd! They also show the wrong formfactor pictures there... :-) 2016-05-11T09:28:28 < ReadError> ohsix this box is offline currently 2016-05-11T09:29:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-11T09:29:45 < jpa-> ReadError: i've been considering making a simple script that will export high-resolution pngs with gerbv, then you can zoom them fast with just image viewer.. or gerblook.org kind of does it already but online 2016-05-11T09:30:23 < ReadError> im not sure how gerbv can manage to be so slow 2016-05-11T09:31:15 < rewolff1> For me gerbv is always one of the fastest tools around. 2016-05-11T09:31:37 < ReadError> have you loaded large stuff? like panelized files 2016-05-11T09:31:43 < dongs> why dont you use pirated camtastic you fuckign stoner/cloner 2016-05-11T09:32:02 < ReadError> dongs camtastic is still a pile of shit 2016-05-11T09:32:10 < dongs> it always has been 2016-05-11T09:32:10 < ReadError> if you zoom in everything disappears still 2016-05-11T09:32:11 < dongs> that was my point 2016-05-11T09:39:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T09:40:06 < fada> I am using stm32f0. how do I know which pins can be used for uart? i am reading the datasheet. I cannot find out which are the uart pins. I need to configure 2 uarts 2016-05-11T09:40:28 < ReadError> look for 'usart' 2016-05-11T09:40:34 < ReadError> not uart 2016-05-11T09:40:52 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T09:41:05 < fada> ahh ... found it. thanks 2016-05-11T09:41:09 < fada> stupid me 2016-05-11T09:41:26 < dongs> fada: theres a table in datasheet. 2016-05-11T09:41:28 < dongs> pins + peripherals + AF 2016-05-11T09:41:31 < fada> can i use tx, rx without the cts, rts? 2016-05-11T09:41:49 < zyp> of course 2016-05-11T09:42:13 < fada> dongs, thanks. i found the pin definitions at table 13. 2016-05-11T09:43:56 < fada> dongs, may i ask what is AF? 2016-05-11T09:44:36 < dongs> alternate function 2016-05-11T09:44:44 < dongs> most stuff exists on more than one pin 2016-05-11T09:44:50 < fada> dongs, oh... ok. found it 2016-05-11T09:44:50 < dongs> and you can use one or the other. 2016-05-11T09:44:55 < dongs> its also listed in that same table. 2016-05-11T09:45:02 < dongs> and there's a longer af list at the end 2016-05-11T09:47:37 < fada> ohsix, good. thank you. I will try that. I thought it may be a good idea to read up first before blindly using CubeMX. Not sure how intuitive it can be 2016-05-11T09:48:05 < dongs> you should use cubemx to discover peripherals 2016-05-11T09:48:17 < dongs> pick the chip youre using, select the uarts/etc you wanna use on left, 2016-05-11T09:48:20 < fada> I see USART1_TX can be used on PA9, PB6. Any difference which one? 2016-05-11T09:48:22 < dongs> then you can ctrl+click the pin to see wehre else it exists 2016-05-11T09:48:24 < dongs> nope 2016-05-11T09:48:26 < dongs> but 2016-05-11T09:48:31 < dongs> if youplan to use serial bootloader later 2016-05-11T09:48:38 < dongs> its only active on PA9/10 2016-05-11T09:48:47 < dongs> (the first location for usart1, and not remap) 2016-05-11T09:49:24 < fada> dongs, pardon my ignorance what is serial bootloader? something that allows user to program code through USART? 2016-05-11T09:49:31 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-11T09:49:36 < dongs> either for production or just regular firmware update. 2016-05-11T09:49:54 < dongs> F0 has DFU (i think?) so if you have uSB on there that might be a moot point. 2016-05-11T09:49:58 < fada> dongs, why would people use that when ST-link through USB is so much faster? 2016-05-11T09:50:15 < dongs> in production you are not going to be connecting swd to every board 2016-05-11T09:50:22 < dongs> also it really depends what you're making. 2016-05-11T09:50:28 < fada> dongs, ahhh.. i see. thanks 2016-05-11T09:50:53 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-11T09:51:02 < dongs> if tyhis a is a one -off for personal use, and you have no plans to use bootlaoder/whatever then you don't need to care which usart1pin you will use. 2016-05-11T09:51:36 < fada> dongs, this bootloader thing ... is it pre-loaded into every stm32f0 chip upon purchase? does one need to download it first? 2016-05-11T09:51:45 < dongs> yes, its in ROM 2016-05-11T09:51:51 < dongs> activate by boot0 going high 2016-05-11T09:52:05 < dongs> its included. 2016-05-11T09:52:08 < fada> dongs, wonderful. I guess it is impossible to brick the stm32f0, right? unlike Arduino 2016-05-11T09:52:15 < dongs> correct. 2016-05-11T09:52:18 < dongs> also no retarded fusebits 2016-05-11T09:52:20 < dongs> that fuck you up. 2016-05-11T09:52:46 < fada> dongs, hahaha. I like u. I hate those fusebits too. Makes bricks out of Arduino MCU 2016-05-11T09:53:26 < fada> does dongs work for STM? 2016-05-11T09:54:20 < fada> very kind of dongs to help strangers with stm32. stm32 should pay him:) 2016-05-11T09:55:09 < fada> ohsix, if i buy from mouser, digikey, i guess it should be safe 2016-05-11T09:58:06 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T10:16:16 < dongs> yes i get paid for stm chats. also for waveshare chats 2016-05-11T10:16:29 < dongs> speaking of which, waveshare has some nice stm32 boards for cheap 2016-05-11T10:16:40 < dongs> not as cheap as nucleo tho :( 2016-05-11T10:17:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T10:17:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-11T10:17:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.115] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T10:17:58 < ReadError> you can swap the stm32 off the nucleos too 2016-05-11T10:18:10 < dongs> definitely 2016-05-11T10:18:11 < ReadError> if you plan on using a different one 2016-05-11T10:18:18 < dongs> man some of the nucleos they sell are a total giveaway 2016-05-11T10:18:23 < dongs> like that cheap $20-something ethernet+shit one 2016-05-11T10:18:26 < dongs> its liek a 6 layer pcb 2016-05-11T10:18:36 < ReadError> the f429 one is nice 2016-05-11T10:18:49 < dongs> the chip itself is like 20 bucks on digikey 2016-05-11T10:18:52 < dongs> in singles 2016-05-11T10:18:56 < dongs> 144qwfp or wahtever 2016-05-11T10:19:59 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-11T10:20:37 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/LiOSHfN.jpg do you think its safe to store these here 2016-05-11T10:25:10 < PeterM> i dont see why not 2016-05-11T10:25:23 < dongs> the missing one is still charging @ 1A 2016-05-11T10:25:30 < dongs> also, tehy're all nicely L/R fitting 2016-05-11T10:28:43 < fada> are there stm32 chips in DIP package? easier to do PCB layout and breadboarding 2016-05-11T10:28:50 < dongs> no 2016-05-11T10:29:08 < dongs> -discovery/nucleo fits into breadboard 2016-05-11T10:29:58 < fada> dongs, that's right!. I can fit the discovery board onto a breadboard 2016-05-11T10:30:58 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-11T10:31:57 < fada> I am looking at this tutorial. http://letanphuc.net/2015/09/stm32f0-uart-tutorial-5/ Is this interrupt routine HAL_UART_RxCpltCallback() called for every single byte received on UART? 2016-05-11T10:32:22 < dongs> yes 2016-05-11T10:32:40 < dongs> the arduino way 2016-05-11T10:32:42 < dongs> you should probably setup DMA 2016-05-11T10:32:47 < dongs> then you get it for free in a buffer. 2016-05-11T10:32:48 < fada> dongs, stm32 USART can go up to 6Mbps. is the interrupt routine really that fast? 2016-05-11T10:33:02 < dongs> no, you'll most definitely use DMA at higher speeds. 2016-05-11T10:33:46 < fada> dongs, i see. for speeds up to 115kbps, is the single-byte-activate interrupt routine fast enough? 2016-05-11T10:39:00 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T10:42:22 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T10:43:18 < dongs> yes 2016-05-11T10:43:20 < dongs> more than enough 2016-05-11T10:47:27 < fada> dongs, when using uart, how should we judge whether we need to use DMA or not? 2016-05-11T10:47:43 < dongs> depends what you wanna do 2016-05-11T10:48:28 < fada> ohsix, 115kbps should be considered not a lot of data, right? 2016-05-11T10:52:00 < fada> ohsix, the idea of using dma is to free the cpu to do other things while the dma is handling the data transfer. Did i understand u correctly? 2016-05-11T10:53:18 < fada> ohsix, the dma controller will send an interrupt after the transfer is done. So, instead of receiving interrupt byte by byte, CPU receives interrupt when a bunch of bytes are received. Yes? 2016-05-11T10:54:16 < fada> ohsix, one thing puzzles me. how do I determine how big this bunch of bytes should be before the dma controller sends an interrupt? 2016-05-11T10:54:53 < fada> hmm ... might as well set it as large as possible to reduce the number of interrupts. 2016-05-11T10:55:15 < fada> what are the side effects if this buffer is too large? 2016-05-11T10:55:24 < dongs> none, you're just wasting memory or hwatever 2016-05-11T10:55:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-11T10:55:59 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1623255426/fps1000-the-low-cost-high-frame-rate-camera/posts/1522693 this garbage is finally shipping 2016-05-11T10:56:02 < dongs> tho not platinum 4k yet 2016-05-11T10:56:07 < dongs> which is the shit that im getting supposedly 2016-05-11T10:57:19 < fada> hmm ... what if I set the buffer to 1024 bytes. But the message size is only 10 bytes. Does it mean I will never receive the message? 2016-05-11T10:57:39 < dongs> no 2016-05-11T10:57:49 < dongs> why dont you read and look at example code 2016-05-11T10:58:26 < fada> dongs, sorry. I didn't know there is such an example code. Good. Will read them. Thanks for the tip! 2016-05-11T10:58:47 < fada> by the way, are the example code based on the HAL libraries used by CUbeMX? 2016-05-11T10:59:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-11T10:59:29 < dongs> donno. you can just generate cubemx code 2016-05-11T10:59:31 < dongs> and look at it 2016-05-11T10:59:40 < dongs> i think you can check to use dma etc 2016-05-11T10:59:47 < dongs> so it will autogenrate shit needed. 2016-05-11T11:00:00 < dongs> or you can just read usart/dma chapter in reference manual 2016-05-11T11:00:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T11:00:52 < fada> Shocked! I just unzipped firmware-examples-en.stm32f0discovery_fw.zip. There is no example for UART. There are examples for DMA with DAC and Flash. None for UART 2016-05-11T11:01:08 < fada> i guess I'm on my own. 2016-05-11T11:05:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.204] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T11:06:00 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Kym0e5J7M DJI owners with toom uch time 2016-05-11T11:12:11 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T11:17:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T11:29:08 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T11:31:50 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Wireless-Aviation-Headset-Helmet-Adaptor/ 2016-05-11T11:31:53 < dongs> fun 2016-05-11T11:32:05 < lorenzo> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trancemetals/trance-sphere-oligodynamic-copper 2016-05-11T11:32:16 < dongs> saw that last week 2016-05-11T11:32:31 < dongs> its like those pyramids that elevate your speaker cables 2016-05-11T11:32:34 < dongs> to widen the soundstage 2016-05-11T11:32:41 < dongs> holy shit 2016-05-11T11:32:45 < dongs> what i didnt see last week was the $200k 2016-05-11T11:33:13 < lorenzo> yeah 2016-05-11T11:33:31 < lorenzo> faith in humanity approaching -inf 2016-05-11T11:34:47 < dongs> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/011/034/577/0430c6fa13cbd1ec56049117771f47b5_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1461846520&auto=format&q=92&s=238257cf56f10b4c3859f1647d4ce381 2016-05-11T11:34:51 < dongs> lol @ last tier 2016-05-11T11:47:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T11:50:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:89a0:9e2d:f0a2:71b4] has quit [Quit: If you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people.] 2016-05-11T12:14:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T12:20:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T12:29:50 -!- fada [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T12:33:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-11T12:47:13 < Ecco> When you put an STM32 in Stop mode, what happens to the GPIO configured as outputs? 2016-05-11T12:47:23 < Ecco> My understanding is that the clocks are stopped 2016-05-11T12:47:36 < Ecco> so that would mean that the GPIOs keep their state 2016-05-11T12:49:21 < dongs> correct 2016-05-11T12:49:29 < dongs> PWM also stops unless configured not to 2016-05-11T12:56:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-05-11T12:58:16 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T12:58:54 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T13:02:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T13:03:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T13:06:23 < Ecco> ohsix: not sure I'm understanding your quesiton 2016-05-11T13:07:21 < mervaka> hmm, anyone here using 20 pin ETM headers? 2016-05-11T13:07:46 < Ecco> option 2 2016-05-11T13:08:22 < mervaka> :p 2016-05-11T13:08:51 < mervaka> i normally use JTAG headers, can program/debug fine 2016-05-11T13:08:57 < mervaka> via ulink pro 2016-05-11T13:09:11 < dongs> lol ETM 2016-05-11T13:09:18 < dongs> nice waste of pins 2016-05-11T13:09:30 < mervaka> however i want to do some profiling, so been looking at getting ETM working 2016-05-11T13:09:48 < dongs> mervaka: you can do instruction tracing over swd 2016-05-11T13:09:58 < mervaka> you can? 2016-05-11T13:10:01 < dongs> also how much of "profiling" do you really need to do where you cant just step through a block of code and compare cyclecounter? 2016-05-11T13:10:03 < Bright> yes 2016-05-11T13:10:05 < dongs> yes 2016-05-11T13:10:28 < dongs> mervaka: jpa or karlp or someeone did a thing and wrote a plugin for some opensores logic analyzer to process it 2016-05-11T13:10:40 < mervaka> hmm 2016-05-11T13:10:43 < Bright> swds dope 2016-05-11T13:10:45 < dongs> http://hackaday.com/2015/03/09/execution-tracing-on-cortex-m-microcontrollers/ 2016-05-11T13:10:55 < dongs> using SWO 2016-05-11T13:11:02 < mervaka> anyway, it seems i can debug okay on ETM, but cannot program D: 2016-05-11T13:11:10 < dongs> ? 2016-05-11T13:11:12 < mervaka> or reset target 2016-05-11T13:11:14 < dongs> using what probe? 2016-05-11T13:11:20 < mervaka> ulink pro 2016-05-11T13:11:27 < dongs> you should probably call up keil and ask 2016-05-11T13:11:31 < dongs> that thing is liek$2000 2016-05-11T13:11:35 < dongs> you're entitled to some support :p 2016-05-11T13:11:39 < mervaka> true :p 2016-05-11T13:12:30 < mervaka> i feel like that rich kid at school with the gibson SG and no skills to back it up 2016-05-11T13:14:30 < dongs> i've never needed to instruction trace anyway 2016-05-11T13:14:40 < dongs> like i said, anything that you're taht worried about being "slow" you can just singlestep and watch cyclecounter 2016-05-11T13:15:23 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngreyallftdfeyfo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-11T13:16:34 < jpa-> yeah, while random PC sampling is also useful if you want to get percent readings across the whole program 2016-05-11T13:17:10 < jpa-> like when i run out of cpu cycles without any specific knowledge of what is slow, i usually profile with openocd first to get percents to know what would be most beneficial to optimize 2016-05-11T13:18:11 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-11T13:18:18 < jpa-> (then i wait the few minutes it takes with openocd until it crashes) 2016-05-11T13:19:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T13:25:14 < Cicero-MF> can anyone suggest a good bin compare program? Free if possible? 2016-05-11T13:28:06 < Cicero-MF> Cool. Just a decent comparison for bin files, thats all. I used to use beyond compare, but looking for a free one 2016-05-11T13:29:10 < Cicero-MF> I'm on windows though... 2016-05-11T13:33:50 < Sync> oh 2016-05-11T13:33:57 < Sync> I have to try the semihosting shits 2016-05-11T13:34:23 < Cicero-MF> thanks, giving vbindiff a go 2016-05-11T13:35:35 < dongs> fc/b works fine 2016-05-11T13:38:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-11T13:40:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Circuit-PCB-Designer-Mechanical-Keyboard/ 2016-05-11T13:40:49 < dongs> lol 2016-05-11T13:44:06 < dongs> asshole doesnt even link to real datasheet 2016-05-11T13:44:25 < dongs> anyone who thinks "alldatasaheet.com" is a reputable site is immediately disqualified from getting my attention 2016-05-11T13:45:30 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Soldering-sockets-for-Chips-Commodore/ ohsix got outbid on this one 2016-05-11T13:45:34 < dongs> some american will do it for $10 2016-05-11T13:45:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/prtuol.html?ref_project_id=10465383 this guyt 2016-05-11T13:45:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T13:46:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-11T13:47:05 < karlp> mervaka: ETM is just extra pins, the "20 pin" etm one is swd|jtag_+_ etm pins, so if you're not debugging and programming through that ocnnector too, you or your board maker wired it up all wrong. 2016-05-11T13:47:31 < dongs> ya 2016-05-11T13:48:23 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T13:52:53 < mervaka> hmm, could it be something to do with the flash algorithm, or is that the same? 2016-05-11T13:53:35 < mervaka> considering it says "flash timeout" 2016-05-11T13:54:41 < dongs> flash algos are opensores 2016-05-11T13:54:42 < dongs> in keil. 2016-05-11T13:54:46 < dongs> you can take a look yourself. 2016-05-11T13:54:53 < dongs> are you flashing some external qspi stuff? or internal flash 2016-05-11T13:55:11 < dongs> they had a bug in L0 flash code 2016-05-11T13:55:21 < dongs> tehy used retarded single-page erase method for erasing full chip 2016-05-11T13:55:27 < dongs> instead of protect+masserase by unprotect 2016-05-11T13:55:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T13:55:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-11T13:55:40 < dongs> i wrote a patch and emailed it to them and instead of fixing it they cunted around until I told them to get fucked 2016-05-11T13:55:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-11T13:56:07 < karlp> ohsix: yeah, missing trace pins is a common failing on china boards. 2016-05-11T13:56:13 < karlp> I really want them to clone better designs :( 2016-05-11T13:59:02 < karlp> just bringing SWO out would bea fucking big step up. 2016-05-11T13:59:15 < karlp> ETM can be 1, 2 or 4 pins on top 2016-05-11T13:59:39 < karlp> this a c lone debug dongle? or a clone target board? 2016-05-11T14:00:18 < karlp> yeah, so.... sucky shitty clone, shoulda just bought a disco and had something that worked. 2016-05-11T14:00:36 < dongs> why is autism6 talking at 8pm JST 2016-05-11T14:00:41 < dongs> its like 5am in amerikka 2016-05-11T14:01:00 < karlp> doesn't do swo => losing out on kinda core bonus features 2016-05-11T14:01:13 < karlp> some of the discos are only ~8-9 2016-05-11T14:01:13 < dongs> karlp: wavesahre breaks out full jtag 2016-05-11T14:01:20 < dongs> ^_- 2016-05-11T14:01:33 < karlp> waveshare make nonsucky real boards too :) 2016-05-11T14:02:02 < karlp> dongs: was hating more on the "look we have this thing with the right words on it for $3 on ebay!" that ohsix is hardon for 2016-05-11T14:02:29 < dongs> karlp: yeah too bad i have him on ignore, or i'd have missed some super cool $3 stm32 board that I don't need 2016-05-11T14:06:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.115] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T14:33:01 < Cicero-MF> Anyone here use the openstm32 System Workbench? 2016-05-11T14:34:16 < dongs> no 2016-05-11T14:34:33 < dongs> it looked dumb and unmaintained last i checked 2016-05-11T14:34:55 < dongs> just use eclipse + gnu-arm-eclipse plugin thingy and build with makefiles, or if you're on F0/L0 use free keil 2016-05-11T14:35:12 < dongs> all other tools are shit 2016-05-11T14:35:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T14:35:25 < karlp> hrm, github's going to be way more pricy for small private orgs now. 2016-05-11T14:35:32 < dongs> apparently ST just released this STSW-STM32095 Development Tools Software Development Tools STM32CubeMX Eclipse plug in for STM32 configuration and initialization C code generation 2016-05-11T14:35:44 < dongs> karlp: prices are going up? or what? 2016-05-11T14:35:48 < dongs> it was like $8 per month or something? 2016-05-11T14:36:04 < dongs> buttbucket is free for private respositories, unlimited repository, but you can only collaborate up to 5 people on each 2016-05-11T14:36:08 < dongs> so buttbucket = win 2016-05-11T14:36:43 < Cicero-MF> fml 2016-05-11T14:38:01 < lorenzo> Cicero-MF: I do use the system workbench 2016-05-11T14:38:04 < lorenzo> it only works on linux though 2016-05-11T14:38:13 < lorenzo> the windows version is unmantained 2016-05-11T14:38:42 < lorenzo> like, it had pretty much no device support last time I checked 2016-05-11T14:38:44 < Cicero-MF> what...are you serious? I'm on windows 2016-05-11T14:39:13 < lorenzo> yeah, on linux I generally export from stm32cube straight into ac6 workbench thing 2016-05-11T14:39:16 < lorenzo> on windows can't 2016-05-11T14:39:26 < lorenzo> on os x no idea, I'm no homo 2016-05-11T14:40:07 < Cicero-MF> Hahaha. Yeah, I found out the Cube export thing didn't work a while back, just thought I was being stupid 2016-05-11T14:40:28 < dongs> http://www.st-japan.co.jp/web/en/catalog/tools/PF257931 2016-05-11T14:40:29 < dongs> done 2016-05-11T14:40:33 < dongs> + eclipse 2016-05-11T14:40:38 < Cicero-MF> Then again, I hate the cube anyway 2016-05-11T14:40:41 < lorenzo> Cicero-MF: there's a flag you have to tick when exporting from Cube into Eclipse-based IDEs 2016-05-11T14:40:54 < dongs> cube is great for dumb people 2016-05-11T14:40:57 < lorenzo> so that it doesn't try to recreate the project (with missing files) in the workspace 2016-05-11T14:41:57 < lorenzo> Cicero-MF: or yeah what dongs said, carminenoviello.com has some decent tutorials on setting up a plain Eclipse IDE for stm32 2016-05-11T14:42:11 < lorenzo> and that should be okay on windows too 2016-05-11T14:45:43 -!- mitrax_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T14:47:18 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T14:47:24 < Cicero-MF> Thanks. Ive been using it for a while, but I realised one of my projects I generated using the wrong settings, not as a C project. And for the life of me I can't convert it 2016-05-11T14:48:05 < Cicero-MF> I resorted to creating another project, and manually bringing in my source files. 2016-05-11T14:48:19 < karlp> dongs: small companies will liekly get more expensive big companies will get cheaper 2016-05-11T14:48:36 < karlp> works current plan woudl go from $50/month -> $106 per month. 2016-05-11T14:54:12 < Ecco> When using an LDO to regulate the power to an STM32 2016-05-11T14:54:21 < Ecco> Should I aim for the highest voltage the STM32 supports or the lowest? 2016-05-11T14:55:51 < jadew> if there are no other constraints, go for the highest 2016-05-11T14:55:55 < jadew> 3.3 2016-05-11T14:56:05 < Ecco> IIRC the highest is even 3.6 2016-05-11T14:56:12 < mitrax_> it's a compromise, you don't want to dissipate too much power in the LDO, but you also don't want the voltage to be too high or you'll get into problems when the battery voltage drops 2016-05-11T14:56:14 < Ecco> Why should I? 2016-05-11T14:56:44 < Ecco> In terms of efficiency, how much power does the STM32 draw? 2016-05-11T14:56:52 < jadew> it's not constant 2016-05-11T14:56:59 < mitrax_> depends of the clock frequency and what you do, enabled peripherals etc 2016-05-11T14:57:02 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-11T14:57:02 < jadew> depends on what you have running 2016-05-11T14:57:08 < Ecco> But assuming a given configuration 2016-05-11T14:57:23 < Ecco> will it consume more power at 3V or at 2.5V? 2016-05-11T14:57:27 < Ecco> or will that be the same? 2016-05-11T14:57:45 < jadew> probably more 2016-05-11T14:58:05 < BrainDamage> higher voltage -> more power, but at low voltages you might not attain full performance 2016-05-11T14:58:27 < BrainDamage> check datashit for the part 2016-05-11T14:58:40 < Ecco> Well, my part says the voltage can be anywhere between 1.8 and 3.6 V 2016-05-11T14:58:50 < Ecco> So if I understand correctly 2016-05-11T14:58:59 < Ecco> It's either a matter of dissipating in the LDO or in the MCU, right? 2016-05-11T14:59:17 < jadew> you only worry about temperature? 2016-05-11T14:59:31 < Ecco> well I really doubt temperatur will be an issue in my case 2016-05-11T14:59:42 < BrainDamage> power in mcu goes with v^2, power in ldo goes with deltaV 2016-05-11T14:59:57 < Ecco> I'm "worrying" (just trying to figure out things really) about power consumption 2016-05-11T15:00:03 < jadew> do you have any other constraints? 2016-05-11T15:00:13 < jadew> if you don't, go for max voltage/power 2016-05-11T15:00:15 < Ecco> Well, I have a bunch of other logic components to feed off of that LDO 2016-05-11T15:00:31 < Ecco> jadew: well, if power in MCU is proportional to V squared 2016-05-11T15:00:33 < jadew> when you start having power constraints, figure out the rest 2016-05-11T15:00:41 < Ecco> then I should aim for the lowest possible V, right? 2016-05-11T15:00:59 < jadew> Ecco, are you planning to max out the LDO? 2016-05-11T15:01:00 < BrainDamage> check the clock ratings at various supply voltages 2016-05-11T15:01:07 < Ecco> jadew: not even closely 2016-05-11T15:01:13 < Ecco> BrainDamage: ok, I see 2016-05-11T15:01:26 < jadew> so just go for max voltage :) 2016-05-11T15:01:29 < jadew> that's the default 2016-05-11T15:01:59 < jadew> when you have power/voltage constraints you start exploring the posibilities, but since you don't, just go for max voltage 2016-05-11T15:02:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T15:02:11 < jadew> as BrainDamage said, that's where you have maximum performance 2016-05-11T15:02:12 < Ecco> I'ms orry pal, I don't understand 2016-05-11T15:02:26 < Ecco> I already have a constraint : try not to waste energy 2016-05-11T15:02:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-11T15:02:41 < jadew> Ecco, is it battery powered? 2016-05-11T15:02:44 < Ecco> yes 2016-05-11T15:02:51 < jadew> ah, ok 2016-05-11T15:02:57 < jadew> why do you have a LDO? 2016-05-11T15:02:59 < Ecco> (Indeed, I should have said that first) 2016-05-11T15:03:09 < mitrax_> crt: did you fuck those? 2016-05-11T15:03:14 < Ecco> Because the battery doesn't output the proper voltage? 2016-05-11T15:03:25 < jadew> what kind of battery is it 2016-05-11T15:03:26 < jadew> ? 2016-05-11T15:03:27 < Ecco> It's a single cell LiPo, so it outputs 4.2 - 3V 2016-05-11T15:03:52 < BrainDamage> btw, the problem isn't trivial 2016-05-11T15:04:07 < Ecco> BrainDamage: why? 2016-05-11T15:04:12 < BrainDamage> because the v^2 component is dynamic power, when the mcu is active and crunching 2016-05-11T15:04:19 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-11T15:04:32 < BrainDamage> but you'll also have a static leak 2016-05-11T15:04:41 < BrainDamage> proportional to v, as long as mcu is not in sleep 2016-05-11T15:04:49 < BrainDamage> so ideally you'll race to sleep 2016-05-11T15:04:57 < BrainDamage> crunch as fast as possible, then sleep 2016-05-11T15:04:58 < jadew> and you'll probably want a DC-DC converter instead of a LDO 2016-05-11T15:05:08 < jadew> because even if you power it from a lower voltage, you' 2016-05-11T15:05:12 < Ecco> jadew: well LDO is a kind of DC/DC, isn't it? 2016-05-11T15:05:19 < jadew> because even if you power it from a lower voltage, you'll still have to dissipate a lot in the LDO 2016-05-11T15:05:31 < BrainDamage> but if you lower voltage to lower the mcu's dynamic consumption and lower clock as conseguence, you'll have it sit longer to do the same task 2016-05-11T15:05:39 < BrainDamage> so static leak weight will rise 2016-05-11T15:05:44 < Ecco> BrainDamage: Oh, I see 2016-05-11T15:05:47 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-11T15:06:27 < jadew> Ecco, the LDO eats a lot of power too 2016-05-11T15:06:34 < mitrax_> crt: ahahah 2016-05-11T15:06:42 < jadew> in your case, if you want to power it from the lowest voltage for example, it will consume more than the MCU 2016-05-11T15:06:54 < BrainDamage> also calculate efficiency in the ldo 2016-05-11T15:07:05 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-11T15:07:17 < BrainDamage> replace with switching if efficiency is less than 70-80% or so 2016-05-11T15:07:33 < Ecco> got it 2016-05-11T15:08:01 < Ecco> Well that being said, the MCU will consume very little power as compared to the backlight 2016-05-11T15:08:07 < Ecco> so I'm probably eary-optimizing 2016-05-11T15:08:13 < BrainDamage> so you're assburgering? 2016-05-11T15:08:24 < mitrax_> since this is for your calculator don't bother and use a LDO 2016-05-11T15:08:25 < Ecco> and should probably stick to the "default" tension. That would be 3.3V, correct? 2016-05-11T15:08:47 < mitrax_> the main constraint is the battery lowest voltage at which you can still draw power without damaging it 2016-05-11T15:08:48 -!- jwes [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T15:08:53 < Ecco> Yeah 2016-05-11T15:09:00 < Ecco> The one I'm looking at has a 3.0 cutoff 2016-05-11T15:09:03 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-11T15:09:21 < Ecco> ok, so I have to look at the dropout voltage of my LDO 2016-05-11T15:09:28 < Ecco> probably somewhere around 0.2V 2016-05-11T15:09:32 < mitrax_> pick a LDO with a drop out that can still regulate at 3V, power the cpu at 2.8V or something 2016-05-11T15:09:37 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-11T15:09:40 < Ecco> makes perfect sense 2016-05-11T15:09:43 < Ecco> Thanks! 2016-05-11T15:10:12 < jwes> how does libopencm3 compare against the HAL libraries that come with CubeMX? 2016-05-11T15:10:31 < jpa-> jwes: less stupid internals, less widely used 2016-05-11T15:10:43 < jpa-> less tools and examples available 2016-05-11T15:11:03 < jwes> jpa-: less stupid is good. why is it less widely used? Difficult to use? I think CubeMX makes things very simple 2016-05-11T15:11:21 < Rob235> mornin 2016-05-11T15:11:36 < jwes> jpa-: do u use it yourself? would u recommend it? 2016-05-11T15:11:47 < dongs> karlp: sux. just host your own shit its not like hosting git is hard?? 2016-05-11T15:11:48 < mitrax_> what BrainDamage makes sense but your calculator isn't something that will wakeup/standby constantly to perform some background task like some other battery powered device, it's either on when the user powers it on or off (since the LCD is always active) 2016-05-11T15:11:50 < dongs> i mean even zyp can do it 2016-05-11T15:12:13 < Ecco> mitrax_: Yes indeed 2016-05-11T15:12:24 < Ecco> Anyway, in that case the LCD eats 10x more power than the MCU 2016-05-11T15:12:31 < mitrax_> yup 2016-05-11T15:12:32 < Ecco> so really it's not a big issue anyway 2016-05-11T15:12:33 < BrainDamage> yeah, i didn't know it was a calculator 2016-05-11T15:12:40 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T15:12:42 < jpa-> jwes: never used either of them 2016-05-11T15:12:44 < Ecco> I didn't tell, my bad 2016-05-11T15:12:57 < jpa-> jwes: only reason people use cubemx is because it is the official thing 2016-05-11T15:13:16 < __rob> apart from some severe bugs in the cmsis_os implementation, cubemx is alright 2016-05-11T15:13:45 < jpa-> and being bloat all around 2016-05-11T15:13:47 < __rob> the setup stuff does work for the most part, bit to much rubbish but the amount of time it saves me to get something up and running 2016-05-11T15:13:51 < __rob> usually ok 2016-05-11T15:13:56 < __rob> yea, it really is bloat 2016-05-11T15:14:25 < __rob> much of it is quite similar to the stm32 perhipheral library 2016-05-11T15:14:41 < __rob> alot the interrupt handling is pretty nasty 2016-05-11T15:14:45 < __rob> though 2016-05-11T15:14:52 < jwes> if u don't use the official library (cubemx), then what do u use? 2016-05-11T15:15:01 < __rob> well there is the old peripheral library 2016-05-11T15:15:08 < __rob> which it is meant to superceed 2016-05-11T15:15:22 < mitrax_> jwes: there's stm32cube and cubemx, you can use the former without the stupid wizard shit 2016-05-11T15:15:37 < __rob> wizzard is the best bit! 2016-05-11T15:15:58 < Rob235> what does the wizard do? set clocks and stuff? 2016-05-11T15:16:02 < __rob> although I cut and past the bits I want from it, or just use it for reference 2016-05-11T15:16:03 < jwes> __rob: old peripheral library is actually better than the newer library? that's surprising 2016-05-11T15:16:19 < __rob> jwes, the new one is more wrapped up 2016-05-11T15:16:28 < __rob> made more arduino for the masses to buy stm32 boards 2016-05-11T15:16:39 < __rob> but you can very much pick and choose what you want 2016-05-11T15:17:01 < __rob> I pretty much copy and paste dma setup, timer setup, i2c, spi setup 2016-05-11T15:17:05 < jwes> __rob: why is that bad? wouldn't that make the code more readable? I mean, that was why Arduino won despite selling MCUs at exorbitant prices 2016-05-11T15:17:09 < __rob> only runs once.. so 2016-05-11T15:17:19 < dongs> oh fuck me right in the ass 2016-05-11T15:17:19 < dongs> We've improved PayPal for businesses. 2016-05-11T15:17:20 < __rob> jwes, for the most part I think its not bad 2016-05-11T15:17:21 < dongs> We've redesigned the seller experience to make it more efficient and easier to use 2016-05-11T15:17:32 < dongs> jap paypal finally switched to social networking UI 2016-05-11T15:17:36 < __rob> but, if you look at the interrupt handler implementations they are pretty bad 2016-05-11T15:17:41 < __rob> alot of spinning on flags 2016-05-11T15:17:56 < mitrax_> yeah... 2016-05-11T15:18:01 < __rob> which, usually ends up just being a check, but if something goes wrong you can get stuck in an interrupt handler 2016-05-11T15:18:06 < __rob> till the timeout, etc.. 2016-05-11T15:18:12 < __rob> can make things hard to debug 2016-05-11T15:18:47 < __rob> but for configuring your clocks - awesome 2016-05-11T15:18:55 < __rob> same goes for alot of the peripherals 2016-05-11T15:19:44 < __rob> there is also a pin planner in the UI 2016-05-11T15:19:50 < __rob> thats prob the most handy bit of it all 2016-05-11T15:19:59 < Chris_M> crt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs 2016-05-11T15:20:18 < __rob> you can see all the locations you can place a peripheral, and most importantly it gives you live updates of conflicts 2016-05-11T15:20:21 < jwes> __rob: for interrupt handler, is it a good idea to replace the cubemx generated code with old peripherals code? 2016-05-11T15:20:59 < __rob> no, just use theirs but be aware unless you want to spend the time crafting your own 2016-05-11T15:22:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.243] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T15:23:34 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T15:24:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T15:24:17 < englishman> dongs> http://www.insecam.org/en/view/299145/ someoine 3d dicking 2016-05-11T15:24:20 < englishman> lol someone dicked up 2016-05-11T15:24:37 < dongs> ahahaha 2016-05-11T15:24:45 < __rob> aww, jammed extruder 2016-05-11T15:24:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T15:24:53 < Sync> gg 2016-05-11T15:24:55 < __rob> never managed to get my makerbot to work all the time 2016-05-11T15:25:01 < __rob> does that alot :/ 2016-05-11T15:25:14 < dongs> __rob: you'd be all over my dickstarter then 2016-05-11T15:25:17 < dongs> a 3d printer that just works 2016-05-11T15:25:25 < englishman> crt: i also have pic of local goose hanging around http://i.imgur.com/m8qQXgt.jpg 2016-05-11T15:25:31 < __rob> you got a prototype ? 2016-05-11T15:25:43 < __rob> think the resin once are pretty tight 2016-05-11T15:26:07 < englishman> considerably dead 2016-05-11T15:26:07 < __rob> heated chamber is one thing that was lacking 2016-05-11T15:26:14 < __rob> I think due to a patent 2016-05-11T15:26:32 < ReadError> was looking at DLP shits the other day 2016-05-11T15:26:34 < __rob> but also the mechanics are not shielded in any way 2016-05-11T15:26:44 < __rob> so would prob cook 2016-05-11T15:26:45 < ReadError> can do them pretty cheap, resin prices gone down 2016-05-11T15:27:10 < englishman> yes check out this $100 3d printer https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/117421627/the-peachy-printer-the-first-100-3d-printer-and-sc/posts/1572573 2016-05-11T15:27:14 < __rob> no for my plastic ABS one 2016-05-11T15:28:23 < dongs> yeah my shit is enclosed 2016-05-11T15:28:32 < dongs> proper stuff!11 2016-05-11T15:29:09 < dongs> englishman: if they failed why dont they opensores and call it done 2016-05-11T15:29:15 < dongs> was supposed to be 100% opensores rite?? 2016-05-11T15:29:19 < qyx> any recommended serial terminal for android? 2016-05-11T15:29:28 < dongs> yes, dont use android 2016-05-11T15:29:28 < englishman> was it? 2016-05-11T15:29:32 < englishman> doesnt sound very canadian 2016-05-11T15:29:33 < dongs> englishman: supposedly yes 2016-05-11T15:29:53 < dongs> Is the resin open source too? 2016-05-11T15:29:54 < dongs> Not yet, although it has been talked about. This will be up to Josh Ellis from MakerJuice. 2016-05-11T15:30:05 < dongs> - Using Freedom Respecting software and hardware fully respecting freedoms 0 to 3. We will never close our source! We will never betray our community! We will always respect your freedoms! 2016-05-11T15:30:29 < ReadError> i wonder how hard it would be to synth/make the resin 2016-05-11T15:30:39 < dongs> should be ez for a stoner 2016-05-11T15:30:51 < ReadError> if you could cook that up cheap stuff wouldnt be too bad 2016-05-11T15:30:58 < __rob> that guy in the video is in on it 2016-05-11T15:30:59 < __rob> for sure 2016-05-11T15:31:05 < __rob> hes split the $300 2016-05-11T15:31:07 < __rob> k 2016-05-11T15:31:18 < dongs> sure 2016-05-11T15:31:21 < dongs> they're all in on it 2016-05-11T15:31:29 < __rob> they can't do it for $100 is the problem 2016-05-11T15:31:44 < __rob> so they've got 3 randomers, given them lunch and $50 and made those videos 2016-05-11T15:31:52 < jadew> englishman, what's the TL;DR for that thing? 2016-05-11T15:32:03 < englishman> dickstarter? 2016-05-11T15:32:04 < dongs> jadew: guy steals 350k, builds a house with dickstarter money 2016-05-11T15:32:12 < englishman> business as usual 2016-05-11T15:32:15 < __rob> still waiting for my zano 2016-05-11T15:32:20 < jadew> heh 2016-05-11T15:32:41 < __rob> lol, no 2016-05-11T15:32:48 < __rob> i saw it all got auctioned off on bidspotter 2016-05-11T15:33:06 < __rob> someone paied £10,000 for the "component drawers with contents" 2016-05-11T15:33:21 < __rob> and the scope went for more than ebay 2016-05-11T15:33:36 < __rob> http://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalogues/timed/bpi-associates/catalogue-id-bp10865 2016-05-11T15:33:41 < emeryth> £10,000 of PIC32s? 2016-05-11T15:33:57 < __rob> sorry 2016-05-11T15:34:01 < __rob> £10,000 for the pics 2016-05-11T15:34:07 < __rob> £1,500 for the drawers 2016-05-11T15:34:21 < __rob> absolute bargain for the MCU's 2016-05-11T15:34:24 < __rob> if you have a use 2016-05-11T15:34:30 < __rob> or can shift them 2016-05-11T15:35:18 < __rob> 13,000 batteries 2016-05-11T15:35:31 < __rob> what were they thinking 2016-05-11T15:36:00 < __rob> get working, place order 2016-05-11T15:37:17 < Cicero-MF> hahaha 2016-05-11T15:39:37 < Rob235> wtf, how did I just get sucked into facebook for half an hour 2016-05-11T15:39:40 < Laurenceb> wow 2016-05-11T15:39:49 < Laurenceb> Equine ECG demo completed 2016-05-11T15:39:56 < englishman> is it dead? 2016-05-11T15:40:00 < Laurenceb> nope 2016-05-11T15:40:05 < Rob235> congrats 2016-05-11T15:40:05 < Laurenceb> I'm £20k richer 2016-05-11T15:40:11 < Rob235> you stay up all night? 2016-05-11T15:40:18 < englishman> cool Laurenceb 2016-05-11T15:40:23 < englishman> you can afford rent this week 2016-05-11T15:40:29 < Laurenceb> nope got it working at 10pm, chillaxed after that 2016-05-11T15:40:40 < Rob235> glad to hear it 2016-05-11T15:40:45 < Laurenceb> that was a weird experience 2016-05-11T15:41:04 < Laurenceb> I ended up in a stable with two horny stable girls 2016-05-11T15:41:18 < englishman> and go thte fuck out of there i hope 2016-05-11T15:41:28 < Laurenceb> yes after punching one in the face :S 2016-05-11T15:41:30 < englishman> before ccathing syphillius 2016-05-11T15:41:44 < Rob235> he took a horse cock to the ass 2016-05-11T15:42:22 < Laurenceb> well they proceeded to jack off a horse O_o 2016-05-11T15:42:48 < Laurenceb> I was glad to get out of the stables 2016-05-11T15:42:49 < Rob235> doesn't that need to be done? or were they doing it for fun 2016-05-11T15:42:49 < BrainDamage> are you sure it wasn't a porn you watched instead? 2016-05-11T15:43:11 < Laurenceb> Rob235: they claimed it "needed" to be done 2016-05-11T15:43:52 < Laurenceb> I'm sure lots of bestiality goes on 2016-05-11T15:44:44 < Laurenceb> but ECG worked perfectly, even conductive fabric electrodes worked.. sort of 2016-05-11T15:44:51 < Laurenceb> so next part of contract awarded 2016-05-11T15:45:06 < englishman> should have taken ecg while jerking off horse 2016-05-11T15:45:11 < englishman> live in front of investors 2016-05-11T15:45:16 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-05-11T15:45:16 < englishman> to "simulate race conditions" 2016-05-11T15:45:29 < Laurenceb> I was relieved when the investors showed up 2016-05-11T15:45:55 < Laurenceb> and the stable girls had to start behaving appropriately :S 2016-05-11T15:47:01 < Laurenceb> but anyway this advice should be given on wizardchan : head to nearest stables 2016-05-11T15:47:16 < ReadError> horse people piss me off 2016-05-11T15:47:39 < Laurenceb> yup me too, even when they aren't being rapey 2016-05-11T15:48:38 < Laurenceb> I dont get the attraction, just glorified cows to me 2016-05-11T15:48:47 < Laurenceb> but lots of cash so I'm not complaining 2016-05-11T15:49:35 < ReadError> they act like horses are people 2016-05-11T15:50:41 < Laurenceb> well I made the argument that horses aren't people when they wanted to practice their jerking techniques 2016-05-11T15:50:45 < Laurenceb> didnt work 2016-05-11T15:51:02 < ReadError> BattleBots 2015 S02 Special The Gears Awaken HDTV x264-UAV 2016-05-11T15:51:10 < ReadError> oh damn new season must be starting 2016-05-11T15:51:19 < Laurenceb> BattleBots 2016-05-11T15:51:22 < Laurenceb> lulwut 2016-05-11T15:51:33 < ReadError> never seen that? 2016-05-11T15:52:11 < BrainDamage> are you sure all of this wasn't actually a dream reflecting your repressed perversions? 2016-05-11T15:52:14 < Laurenceb> there used to be robot wars in uk 2016-05-11T15:53:20 < Laurenceb> it was a bit lame, but that didnt stop me going to live filming 2016-05-11T15:53:25 < Laurenceb> which was mega lame 2016-05-11T15:54:00 < Laurenceb> until an angle grinder disk fractured, smashed through the enclosure and almost hit someone in the audience 2016-05-11T15:54:10 < Laurenceb> so it wasn't safe either 2016-05-11T15:54:38 < englishman> did you go to the robot wars hosted by lister? 2016-05-11T15:54:50 < Laurenceb> Craig Charles was being a prat and stole someones food 2016-05-11T15:55:17 < Laurenceb> and there was 30minutes waiting, 5 min action all afternoon, it was generally shit 2016-05-11T15:56:12 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T15:56:40 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/X2vSMMXmGdg?t=30 2016-05-11T15:56:43 < ReadError> does that work Laurenceb 2016-05-11T15:57:00 < Laurenceb> banned in the uk 2016-05-11T15:57:10 < Laurenceb> cuck countries 2016-05-11T15:57:19 < Laurenceb> CUNTries 2016-05-11T15:58:07 < ReadError> too bad they ban cool weapons 2016-05-11T15:58:14 < ReadError> like electrical hax 2016-05-11T15:58:24 < ReadError> and RF jammers 2016-05-11T15:58:39 < BrainDamage> i always found the arbitrary restrictions lame 2016-05-11T15:58:39 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1462964217306.webm 2016-05-11T15:58:41 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-11T15:58:53 < ReadError> i bet most of the bots are grounded to the chassis 2016-05-11T15:59:13 < BrainDamage> instead i'd put the arena in some desertic place, and have air drones filming and relay the stream 2016-05-11T15:59:25 < Laurenceb> yeah, water pistol and salt water would be good 2016-05-11T15:59:28 < BrainDamage> robots themselves can tap into the streams too 2016-05-11T15:59:42 < Rob235> drone battles apparently are a thing but they don't allow any good projectiles 2016-05-11T15:59:42 < Laurenceb> or autonomous robots, that would be cool 2016-05-11T16:00:18 < ReadError> discharge a high voltage into the other bot 2016-05-11T16:00:25 < ReadError> fry everyting 2016-05-11T16:00:39 < BrainDamage> or just good old bullets 2016-05-11T16:00:45 < BrainDamage> no need for physical contact 2016-05-11T16:00:54 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:01:47 < BrainDamage> if they want the matches interesting they can just tier based on the weaponry 2016-05-11T16:01:56 < BrainDamage> contact weapon, projectile, etc 2016-05-11T16:03:16 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-11T16:04:17 < Rob235> how many lines of code would you expect a flight controller to be? 2016-05-11T16:04:41 < ReadError> theres some pretty slim ones 2016-05-11T16:04:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:05:00 < Rob235> I'm already at 3700 2016-05-11T16:05:07 < ReadError> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2292847 2016-05-11T16:05:08 < BrainDamage> depends how complex you have it, will it just be a pid, or do want kalman filtering? also is your airframe inherently stable or not, etc 2016-05-11T16:05:11 < ReadError> grab that zip 2016-05-11T16:05:48 < Rob235> I don't really care if my fc is large, I guess I'm just curious how it compares 2016-05-11T16:06:01 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:06:34 < Laurenceb> ReadError: where are the sensors on that thing? 2016-05-11T16:06:45 < Rob235> I'm going for full featured anyway 2016-05-11T16:06:47 < ReadError> just a 6050 2016-05-11T16:06:52 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:f438:64d2:e737:51ad] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:06:53 < Laurenceb> I dont see it 2016-05-11T16:07:14 < ReadError> there is a driver in the code for it i think 2016-05-11T16:07:20 < englishman> blue board has it on the top, red board has it on the bottom 2016-05-11T16:07:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T16:08:06 < englishman> Laurenceb: http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/5/5/3/9/1/4/a8076150-248-pcb.jpg 2016-05-11T16:11:38 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-05-11T16:11:45 < Laurenceb> nice and simple 2016-05-11T16:20:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-11T16:21:44 < dongs> cell finally c harged 2016-05-11T16:21:49 < dongs> 26010mAh put in 2016-05-11T16:23:02 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:23:30 < BrainDamage> now short it 2016-05-11T16:23:39 < dongs> yea no 2016-05-11T16:24:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.21] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:33:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-11T16:37:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:39:02 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-paemcepfkjgiwqog] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T16:39:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-11T16:50:24 < Ecco> Where should I get the footprint dimensions of standard packages? 2016-05-11T16:50:30 < Ecco> (e.g. SOT 23 6) 2016-05-11T16:51:24 < Ecco> well, there's a "compnent wizard" in Altium 2016-05-11T16:51:27 < Ecco> but it asks for dimensions 2016-05-11T16:52:04 < Ecco> Yeah, i'm pretty sure that can be downloaded 2016-05-11T16:52:17 < Ecco> But I was wondering about what's the proper way to do it 2016-05-11T16:52:34 < Ecco> well maybe 2016-05-11T16:55:32 < Ecco> Oh, I used the wrong wizzard 2016-05-11T16:55:37 < Ecco> There's an IPC footprint wizard 2016-05-11T16:57:31 < Ecco> Weird way to admit that you dream of stuffing a dog 2016-05-11T17:01:15 < ReadError> Ecco IPC 2016-05-11T17:01:23 < ReadError> i think has documents on everything 2016-05-11T17:01:43 < Ecco> Thanks! 2016-05-11T17:04:27 < ReadError> that guy tries too hard 2016-05-11T17:18:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-11T17:18:31 < Laurenceb> http://octavosystems.com/octavo_products/osd335x/ 2016-05-11T17:19:37 < Ecco>   Nice 2016-05-11T17:22:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T17:24:22 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T17:26:39 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-11T17:26:39 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-11T17:35:08 < karlp> som in the form factor of a soc, neat 2016-05-11T17:44:56 -!- jwes [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T17:48:53 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc_h7GWUAAAzmxJ.jpg 2016-05-11T17:51:29 < PeterM> i dunno why people compain about chromes ram usage - chrome uses a lto of ram and is fast, firefox doesnt use much and is slow as shit 2016-05-11T17:51:29 < Rob235> hmm, damn animation, why isn't my frame number working 2016-05-11T17:51:58 < Laurenceb> meanwhile at 8chan HQ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb_TItwUcAAqpKM.jpg 2016-05-11T17:52:10 < Rob235> I'm thinking about switching to chrome, firefox has been bothering me 2016-05-11T17:52:36 < dongs> people still use failfox? 2016-05-11T17:52:43 < Rob235> just used to it 2016-05-11T17:52:54 < dongs> ithought ohsix was the remaining user 2016-05-11T17:52:55 < PeterM> they're pretty damn similar 2016-05-11T17:53:56 < Rob235> if you keep a bunch of tabs open is everything going to eventually slow down to the 90s on any browser? 2016-05-11T17:54:27 < dongs> i doint use tabs maybe thats why my chrome is fine 2016-05-11T17:54:33 < dongs> i prefer to let my window manager manage windows 2016-05-11T17:54:35 < dongs> instead of each app 2016-05-11T17:54:39 < Rob235> ahh, I love tabs, I usually have like 15-20 open 2016-05-11T17:55:36 < Rob235> so you just have a separate wnidow for each site? 2016-05-11T17:55:44 < dongs> .. yes? 2016-05-11T17:55:45 < Rob235> what window manager do you use 2016-05-11T17:55:49 < dongs> windows 10 2016-05-11T17:56:01 < Rob235> why don't you just say that hah 2016-05-11T17:56:09 < PeterM> rob sure, but that number of tabs is somewhere inthe the 100s of tabs 2016-05-11T17:56:31 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTPy-fW4AAm1TE.jpg 2016-05-11T17:56:37 < Rob235> so maybe I'll be better off with chrome, because firefox slows down after I leave the tabs open for a few hours 2016-05-11T17:56:49 < PeterM> i routinely have 70-100 tabs open no problems 2016-05-11T17:57:30 < Rob235> I'm assuming chrome has similar extensions as firefox? 2016-05-11T17:58:00 < Rob235> I've seen apps and stuff too, but I just mean basic extensions 2016-05-11T17:58:01 < dongs> hey whats wrong with just using the fucking browser to browse??????????????????? 2016-05-11T17:58:09 < dongs> click link, view page 2016-05-11T17:58:11 < dongs> the fuck else do you want 2016-05-11T17:58:14 < Rob235> I just mean like session managers and stuff 2016-05-11T17:58:17 < dongs> wut 2016-05-11T17:58:26 < Rob235> save the open tabs so you can reopen the set later 2016-05-11T17:58:35 < dongs> no idea, i dont do tabs remember. 2016-05-11T17:58:41 < dongs> and my windows stay open until i reboot pc 2016-05-11T17:59:08 < Rob235> ok then it would save all your open chrome windows and then you could click load and bring them up whenever. 2016-05-11T17:59:15 < dongs> what the fuck for? 2016-05-11T17:59:18 < Rob235> Well like I said, firefox gets slow on me after a while so it's nice to have 2016-05-11T17:59:28 < dongs> i hate it when chrome crashes like once a month and tries to reopne 30+ windows 2016-05-11T17:59:34 < dongs> fucking up my z-order completely etc 2016-05-11T17:59:44 < dongs> if shit is closed, i dont want it open again 2016-05-11T17:59:57 < Rob235> maybe it saves z order 2016-05-11T18:00:10 < Rob235> I wouldn't be surprised 2016-05-11T18:00:23 < Rob235> I just like having the option, I don't use it often 2016-05-11T18:00:59 < Rob235> alright, back to fixing my animation library 2016-05-11T18:01:10 < Rob235> had enough getting trolled for the hour 2016-05-11T18:01:17 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-11T18:03:22 < ReadError> lol why u spend so much time on LEDs 2016-05-11T18:05:26 < ReadError> i think my record for chrome tabs was 800 2016-05-11T18:08:02 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:f438:64d2:e737:51ad] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T18:08:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T18:13:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-11T18:14:39 < Rob235> it's fun 2016-05-11T18:14:50 < Rob235> but these leds are fucking shitty 2016-05-11T18:15:03 < Rob235> they keep breaking 2016-05-11T18:15:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T18:19:34 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T18:21:03 < kakimir> I need -48V ac/dc rectifier unit 2016-05-11T18:22:45 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T18:23:08 < PeterM> ZXD2400 2016-05-11T18:23:17 < PeterM> pretty hceap from china 2016-05-11T18:23:41 < kakimir> just bought dc/dc unit from scrap yard 2016-05-11T18:23:46 < kakimir> pretty impressive itself 2016-05-11T18:24:08 < kakimir> I assumed it was ac/dc 2016-05-11T18:24:59 < Laurenceb> Incas (Quechuas is the actual name but everybody calls them Incas) even had this form of population control in which they told everyone that deforming your skulls made you smarter. So a lot of retards tied their babies heads and made them dumber and easiert to control. This is no longer needed since we got internet. 2016-05-11T18:25:06 < Laurenceb> lulling 2016-05-11T18:25:12 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-11T18:25:30 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/VESdrOF gradients working, middle arm has brightness of inside set to low so that is gradient too. but these damn things keep breaking and less and less light up 2016-05-11T18:25:39 < Ecco> I thought an USB had to be enumerated before being fed (significant) current by the host 2016-05-11T18:25:51 < dongs> Ecco: technically, yes 2016-05-11T18:25:53 < Ecco> Is that true or can anyoen just pull 500 mA off an USB port? 2016-05-11T18:26:06 < dongs> but 1) zero hosts actually implement per-port current limiting 2) nobody bothers 2016-05-11T18:26:06 < Ecco> I'm looking at the datasheet of a LiPo USB charger chip 2016-05-11T18:26:17 < Ecco> it doesn't even bother with D+ D- pins 2016-05-11T18:26:22 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-11T18:26:42 < Ecco> So as long as you pull 500mA, it'll "just work most of the time"? 2016-05-11T18:26:48 < dongs> it'll work all the time 2016-05-11T18:26:51 < Ecco> ok :-) 2016-05-11T18:26:58 < Ecco> what if I draw 2A? 2016-05-11T18:27:01 < kakimir> PeterM: thanks! 2016-05-11T18:27:01 < Laurenceb> I see meth lab supplies in background 2016-05-11T18:27:13 < Rob235> haha, ejuice 2016-05-11T18:27:41 < PeterM> kakimir, i bet you didnt expect to get a response liek that that quickly ey 2016-05-11T18:28:03 < dongs> kikemir was still looking for SMA connectors on his dc/dc from scrapyard 2016-05-11T18:28:06 < dongs> failing to find any 2016-05-11T18:28:09 < dongs> was disappointed 2016-05-11T18:28:42 < kakimir> PeterM: unless PeterM is around 2016-05-11T18:29:14 < PeterM> http://bbs.mydigit.cn/read.php?tid=592100 lots of pics in that hread but you gota log in 2016-05-11T18:29:35 < kakimir> I think I need to keep looking at scrap yard if they have some telecom rack with rectifier intact 2016-05-11T18:29:57 < kakimir> they say there is time to time something 2016-05-11T18:31:00 < kakimir> hey dongs, I harvested so many SMAs from that rack I got tired and left 2016-05-11T18:32:10 < kakimir> those had real gold in them 2016-05-11T18:32:17 < kakimir> not just chinagold 2016-05-11T18:33:24 < kakimir> what is problematic is that all them SMAs were.. reverse pinned 2016-05-11T18:34:03 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-11T18:34:05 < qyx> lol 2016-05-11T18:34:41 < dongs> PeterM: why teh fuck is the main poster in that thread have obama profile pic 2016-05-11T18:44:15 < PeterM> idonteven 2016-05-11T18:50:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T18:54:42 < ReadError> is there no way to make altidumb stop prompting for polygon repour on any change? I know I can make it automatically do it 2016-05-11T19:01:43 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-11T19:07:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T19:18:30 < upgrdman> finally got around to updating my 8x16 LCD font. damn, im so fucking pro: http://www.farrellf.com/temp/new_lcd_font.jpg 2016-05-11T19:20:30 < aandrew> lol 2016-05-11T19:20:33 < aandrew> sweet sweet boxes 2016-05-11T19:20:54 < upgrdman> indeed 2016-05-11T19:20:54 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T19:21:26 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T19:21:26 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-11T19:21:26 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T19:23:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T19:24:29 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gcgrrnwwgmgdqgor] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T19:24:56 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-11T19:26:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-11T19:37:49 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T19:38:33 < emeb> got the full PC charset there. 2016-05-11T19:38:46 < emeb> It's like 1981 up in here. 2016-05-11T19:51:31 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-05-11T19:51:38 < upgrdman> time to port some dos games to it 2016-05-11T19:53:24 < PeterM> doom 2016-05-11T19:53:29 < PeterM> kgo 2016-05-11T19:54:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:04:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.86] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:13:47 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:13:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:20:04 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:25:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-11T20:26:32 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T20:31:05 < Rob235> lkZXJclkJZc 2016-05-11T20:32:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.241] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:34:35 < PeterM> thats too long 2016-05-11T20:35:02 < englishman> yes your grindr password shouldnt need to be that long 2016-05-11T20:35:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:dd95:1475:1bca:c883] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:36:03 < PeterM> oh, its a grindr password? i thought it was a motherless URL 2016-05-11T20:36:04 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:36:05 < PeterM> liek A1175A9 2016-05-11T20:39:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-11T20:40:34 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T20:41:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T20:44:25 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMGVFTm9KblhvS3c/view?usp=sharing when I bought from china 100g for 7eur 2016-05-11T20:44:54 < upgrdman> you bought scrap copper foil? 2016-05-11T20:44:58 < kakimir> in scrapyard it's 3eur/kg 2016-05-11T20:45:06 < BrainDamage> where's the sma box? 2016-05-11T20:45:07 < kakimir> and I didn't need it 2016-05-11T20:45:28 < kakimir> there it was sittin and I didn't need it! 2016-05-11T20:49:32 < Rob235> ugh, so far 4 out of 12 strips have to be replaced 2016-05-11T20:49:40 < Rob235> garbage 2016-05-11T21:02:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-11T21:04:05 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T21:05:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.22] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T21:09:37 < Tectu> is there any sane way to find the minimum required forward current of an unknown Z-Diode? 2016-05-11T21:10:41 < PeterM> Tectu, curve tracer 2016-05-11T21:12:20 < kakimir> ? 2016-05-11T21:12:35 < kakimir> matching voltages? 2016-05-11T21:14:57 < PeterM> to find the desired Iz you want to be far enough past the zener knee that the votlage is stable, but low enough there isnt much self heating that will make it drift 2016-05-11T21:16:33 < Tectu> PeterM, yep, that I'm aware of. My problem is that I don't know for which Iz that is the case. Also I don't have a curve tracer ;) 2016-05-11T21:16:47 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-11T21:17:14 < Steffanx> ^^ not yet. 2016-05-11T21:18:03 < PeterM> Tectu, surely you've got some left over DK parts you could make a shitty one from 2016-05-11T21:19:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:687b:1a4a:4a04:c21e] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T21:19:39 < Tectu> not sure how easy that would be. 2016-05-11T21:36:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-11T21:38:32 < Rob235> ugh I need a break 2016-05-11T21:39:36 < jpa-> Tectu: lab psu -- resistor -- zener -- ground measure voltage over zener, increase lab psu voltage until the zener voltage stops rising 2016-05-11T21:40:52 -!- __rob [~rob@host109-153-137-249.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 2016-05-11T21:45:17 < Tectu> jpa-, yep, I'm just somewhat worried to break it. After all you have to figure out what current limiting resistor you want to use, no? If the value is too small fun won't last long 2016-05-11T21:47:10 < jpa-> Tectu: that's why you start at 0 volts on lab psu, and stop when it gets to the knee point (which is the minimum zener current) 2016-05-11T21:47:47 < jpa-> the maximum current will be many times larger, and besides, you can monitor the heat with your finger 2016-05-11T21:49:18 < PeterM> its probably best if you hold it in your finger for a minute or so before you start the test 2016-05-11T21:49:24 < PeterM> the tempco could be bad 2016-05-11T21:49:57 < PeterM> https://youtu.be/9nW5g8tjazg?t=69 also, tectu is this your missus 2016-05-11T21:50:00 < jpa-> also another way to know the current: it is 5mA 2016-05-11T21:50:28 < jpa-> no, that's not me 2016-05-11T21:50:54 < PeterM> not enough heaving? 2016-05-11T21:51:23 < Steffanx> swissers dont boat. 2016-05-11T21:51:49 < Steffanx> swissers ski. 2016-05-11T21:52:04 < jpa-> and buy clocks 2016-05-11T21:52:44 < Steffanx> or sell them. I know a guy that tried to sell a watch 2016-05-11T21:54:02 < Tectu> thanks jpa- / PeterM 2016-05-11T21:55:18 < Steffanx> why you just dont read the code on the zener? 2016-05-11T21:56:35 < PeterM> if its a glass passivated one it probably doenst have anythign on it 2016-05-11T22:08:02 < PeterM> and if its a sot-23 it probably says something liek 5F? and if oyu look it up on one of the many websites it will say its a 1200v, 2000A SCR 2016-05-11T22:16:30 < Tectu> PeterM, it's a small glass axial one. It says from what I can tell it states 'C3VPH' which doesn't help 2016-05-11T22:16:34 < Tectu> according to google at least 2016-05-11T22:16:38 < Tectu> or I'm doing it wrong 2016-05-11T22:18:09 < PeterM> that doesnt immediatewly stand out to me 2016-05-11T22:18:24 < PeterM> but its 5:20 am and i should be asleep hours ago 2016-05-11T22:19:50 < Tectu> stop lying, it's 21:18 2016-05-11T22:20:24 < BrainDamage> for a swiss, it's weird your clock is off by 2 min 2016-05-11T22:20:30 < BrainDamage> you bring shame to your country 2016-05-11T22:21:10 < Tectu> PeterM, anyway. Before I asked this question I hooked the diode up with a 100R resistor to a lab PSU. I increased the voltage. from ~3.5V it started doing something. But when I changed the voltage from 3.5V to 6V the voltage across the diode changed from 3.0V to 3.8V which made me wonder wtf. 2016-05-11T22:21:19 < Tectu> BrainDamage :D 2016-05-11T22:26:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-11T22:26:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T22:48:19 < Rob235> Why would this fail? It hangs on the second line, what has to be set/reset each time (I just trigger the dma when needed) 2016-05-11T22:48:20 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/dp1hca1F 2016-05-11T22:50:06 < Rob235> oops I meant it runs fine the first time and then doesn't get past there 2016-05-11T22:50:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.224.185] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-11T22:50:28 < Rob235> on the second run 2016-05-11T22:54:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-11T22:58:11 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/WwvJRH14 2016-05-11T22:58:12 < Rob235> more context 2016-05-11T23:13:04 -!- Laurenceb_ [56b015a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.176.21.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T23:19:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:dd95:1475:1bca:c883] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-11T23:28:21 < Fleck> ohh, I am too late, BZX79-C3V0 C3V0 PH << maybe this.. 2016-05-11T23:29:34 < Steffanx> Just bug him by email, he liks that Fleck. 2016-05-11T23:30:34 < Fleck> naah 2016-05-11T23:30:51 < Rob235> it's kinda ridiculous that you buy a 4TB hard drive and it's 400GB short 2016-05-11T23:31:07 < Steffanx> It's ridiculous hjow expensive a 4TB disk still is. 2016-05-11T23:31:17 < Rob235> 4 to 6 is crazy 2016-05-11T23:31:24 < Rob235> I wanted 6 but it was another $90 2016-05-11T23:37:30 < Laurenceb_> sup trolls 2016-05-11T23:37:43 < Laurenceb_> they make me work for my money :-( 2016-05-11T23:38:03 < Laurenceb_> aids1298 works properly but there is massive muscle noise when the horses are running 2016-05-11T23:38:17 < Laurenceb_> "yeah, please remove it using " 2016-05-11T23:38:17 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-11T23:40:18 < Steffanx> but you are pro Laurenceb_, you know how to do that. 2016-05-11T23:40:31 < Steffanx> or give up and find a real job :P 2016-05-11T23:40:41 < Laurenceb_> yeah I steal commercial software 2016-05-11T23:40:54 < Laurenceb_> real job I have to work 9-5 and can't troll irc 2016-05-11T23:42:43 < Steffanx> Sure you can. I see many here do that all the time. 2016-05-11T23:42:49 < Sync> ye 2016-05-11T23:43:15 < mitrax_> Laurenceb_: sounds like a tricky problem... how do you plan to solve it? 2016-05-11T23:44:14 < Laurenceb_> mitrax: maybe adaptive noise canceling using imu 2016-05-11T23:44:37 < Laurenceb_> or perhaps using principal component analysis from multiple electrode channels 2016-05-11T23:44:46 < Laurenceb_> a case of trying in matlab 2016-05-11T23:45:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T23:46:56 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-11T23:48:53 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gcgrrnwwgmgdqgor] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-11T23:51:29 < Laurenceb_> or http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/fastica/ 2016-05-11T23:51:34 < mitrax_> from what i'm reading muscle noise is > 5Hz and heart rate supposedly below 5Hz (assuming 300bpm max), wouldn't a low pass just do the job? 2016-05-11T23:52:50 < Laurenceb_> no 2016-05-11T23:53:04 < Laurenceb_> muscle noise is wideband, its all overthe place 2016-05-11T23:54:58 < mitrax_> okay 2016-05-11T23:55:49 < Laurenceb_> this looks liek my problem http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/icademo/ 2016-05-11T23:55:55 < Laurenceb_> time to steal codez --- Day changed Thu May 12 2016 2016-05-12T00:00:12 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7754f9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T00:01:32 < jadew> ok... so I've only done a couple of repairs so far and every time when someone else worked on the equipment before me, I wonder how he couldn't see the issue and wtf did he do to the screws + how can you lose a specially designed screw that can't be sourced anymore 2016-05-12T00:02:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-12T00:03:38 < jadew> the guy I bought this device from actually tried to fix it, the device was signaling that the 28 V output is out, he measured the regulator output (so he clearly had the schematic because it's a very complex device) and couldn't figure out a cap was blown... 2016-05-12T00:05:02 < jadew> when I saw there's no voltage on the input of the regulator I thought the transformer is fried and the guy knew and tried to get rid of it, but no 2016-05-12T00:05:51 < jadew> anyway, long story short, he lost two screws 2016-05-12T00:06:35 < mitrax_> Laurenceb_: wow that's nice 2016-05-12T00:07:07 < Laurenceb_> dunno if it works so well with my data, i'll try.... tomorrow 2016-05-12T00:08:19 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: one potential problem i see is that there are many more sources of noise than there are electrodes :) 2016-05-12T00:10:52 < Laurenceb_> well the noise is very periodic when the horse is moving 2016-05-12T00:11:02 < Laurenceb_> so it might just work quite well 2016-05-12T00:11:45 < Laurenceb_> muscle groups activate in the same way for each stride 2016-05-12T00:11:54 < mitrax_> right 2016-05-12T00:12:46 < Laurenceb_> atm the SNR is maybe 20dB when stationary or moving slowly, dropping suddenly to about -6dB at gallop 2016-05-12T00:12:57 < Laurenceb_> so if I can pull it up bit it will be enough 2016-05-12T00:13:07 < mitrax_> btw how many electrodes do you have? 2016-05-12T00:13:25 < Laurenceb_> 12 of which 9 are used at any one time 2016-05-12T00:13:30 < Thorn> is the intraanal electrode connected 2016-05-12T00:13:43 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-12T00:14:21 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T00:14:41 < upgrdman> so is there any risk with leaving a JTAG device's TDO/TDI lines floating? like, does JTAG use cock stretching where the device might dick with TCK if it see random shit on TDO/TDI? 2016-05-12T00:15:06 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: where do they connect? several on each limb? 2016-05-12T00:15:07 < zyp> no 2016-05-12T00:15:21 < Laurenceb_> they are around the saddle 2016-05-12T00:15:29 < Laurenceb_> thats where the signal is strongest 2016-05-12T00:15:32 < zyp> upgrdman, remember, JTAG is push-pull, not OD 2016-05-12T00:15:43 < zyp> all signals are unidirectional 2016-05-12T00:15:56 < upgrdman> good 2016-05-12T00:16:16 < upgrdman> wonder why this lattice dev board's ftdi has pull ups on all JTAG lines 2016-05-12T00:17:11 < Laurenceb_> because ftdi 2016-05-12T00:18:04 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: I think the danger of leaving JTAG floating is that if all inputs are high-impedance it can switch to boundary scan mode or some other random state. 2016-05-12T00:18:21 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: but e.g. stm32 has internal pulls on jtag lines. 2016-05-12T00:18:23 < upgrdman> just spend an hour debugging my fpga code... forgot to tristate a shared MISO line :/ fuck me 2016-05-12T00:18:34 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, ok cool 2016-05-12T00:20:04 < karlp> Laurenceb_: that ICA stuff looks neat 2016-05-12T00:20:26 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: so you have something similar to right leg drive but it's connected near the saddle? 2016-05-12T00:20:36 < Laurenceb_> mitrax_: yeah 2016-05-12T00:20:58 < Laurenceb_> I've managed to subcontract the saddle electrode system design :D 2016-05-12T00:21:12 < Laurenceb_> its going to use lycra and silver coated nylon fabric 2016-05-12T00:21:24 < Laurenceb_> lots of different pads 2016-05-12T00:23:34 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: does that work through the horse hair? :) 2016-05-12T00:23:54 < mitrax_> Laurenceb: or do you have to shave the hair where the pads go? 2016-05-12T00:25:51 < mitrax_> hrm stupid question i assume it does since EEG works with electrodes over the hair on humans 2016-05-12T00:26:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah you just use gel - a salt/gunk mixture 2016-05-12T00:27:06 < Laurenceb_> some people have made some interesting conductive comb type electrode for EEG on humans 2016-05-12T00:27:19 < Laurenceb_> just embed into hair 2016-05-12T00:28:14 < mitrax_> i see 2016-05-12T00:42:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-12T00:43:39 -!- Laurenceb_ [56b015a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.176.21.163] has 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https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/05/11/1814243/peachy-printer-funds-embezzled-to-build-new-home-instead-of-100-3d-printer 2016-05-12T01:21:32 < Laurenceb_> epic win 2016-05-12T01:21:59 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-12T01:21:59 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T01:23:13 < Laurenceb_> I need to try this 2016-05-12T01:34:26 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP1C-W8A69s some tite synth 2016-05-12T01:36:23 < Rob235> Target request failed: Warning: Cannot insert breakpoint 1 : Cannot access memory at... 2016-05-12T01:36:32 < Rob235> grr 2016-05-12T01:39:17 < kakimir> too many 2016-05-12T01:43:02 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T01:56:42 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@ip-96-43-234-149.dsl.netrevolution.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-12T01:58:37 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@162.222.147.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T01:58:37 -!- bvsh 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to work for a company doing fetal ecg 2016-05-12T02:20:31 < Laurenceb_> need to email their dsp guy for advice :D 2016-05-12T02:20:41 < Laurenceb_> http://filebin.ca/2gpsPTuSHKrI/2016-05-11T12-22-27-Equine_.wav 2016-05-12T02:20:49 < Laurenceb_> wav file of raw data 2016-05-12T02:21:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T02:21:55 < Laurenceb_> lul crt I feel like I'm back at school 2016-05-12T02:22:06 < Laurenceb_> we all used to watch spoilsbury toast boy 2016-05-12T02:25:43 < Laurenceb_> I had a friend from school who shared a flat with David Firth at uni 2016-05-12T02:25:57 < Laurenceb_> I had another friend from school who joined ISIS 2016-05-12T02:26:06 < Laurenceb_> but he was Swedish, so what do you expect 2016-05-12T02:31:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:687b:1a4a:4a04:c21e] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T02:37:03 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-12T02:37:03 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T02:37:04 < Laurenceb_> nice, fire service want to check my house for safety 2016-05-12T02:37:05 < Laurenceb_> and will be back tomorrow with police to ensure they are let in 2016-05-12T02:37:05 < upgrdman> "your collection of dildos is a fire hazard" ? 2016-05-12T02:37:06 < Laurenceb_> this is after I rang gas people to report my neightbours had haxored the gas main to build their garage 2016-05-12T02:37:07 < Laurenceb_> what a coincidence 2016-05-12T02:37:07 < Laurenceb_> still - they are in bigger shit 2016-05-12T02:39:33 < Laurenceb_> lets chop gas main with hacksaw and silicone sealant in a diversion made from random drainpipe 2016-05-12T02:40:07 < Laurenceb_> nasty hack level: arduino 2016-05-12T02:42:52 < aandrew> the next dickstarter success story: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/11/peachy-printer-collapses-investor-built-a-house-instead-of-a-printer/ 2016-05-12T02:46:42 < dongs> http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/1108-security-alert-for-allwinner-sun8i-h3a83th8/ lunix retards 2016-05-12T02:56:32 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: no, no blood pressure 2016-05-12T02:58:07 < Laurenceb_> well yeah you can go the phased array ultrasound route 2016-05-12T02:58:14 < Laurenceb_> some fetal monitors work that way 2016-05-12T02:59:48 < Laurenceb_> something I made a while ago http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26642080 2016-05-12T03:00:32 < Laurenceb_> the current year 2016-05-12T03:02:32 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T03:05:22 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T03:07:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T03:19:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-12T03:26:56 < dongs> https://github.com/allwinner-zh/linux-3.4-sunxi/blob/A83T/arch/arm/mach-sunxi/sunxi-debug.c#L23 pro 2016-05-12T03:30:27 -!- rewolff [~wolff@cust-95-128-94-82.breedbanddelft.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-12T03:31:57 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-12T03:46:48 < dongs> upgrdman job 4 u https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/build-robot-move-back-forth/ 2016-05-12T03:47:37 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/PCB-schematic-format-conversion-from/ haha 50 bucks for that fuck off 2016-05-12T03:48:29 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-169-96-36.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T03:54:58 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-12T03:55:08 < Laurenceb_> uk fire service have basically unlimited power 2016-05-12T03:55:10 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@ppp121-44-66-70.bras1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T03:56:07 < Laurenceb_> they may operate on or under the sea surface at any location including outside UK waters 2016-05-12T03:59:51 < Laurenceb_> inb4 strategic firefighter armed subs 2016-05-12T04:00:45 < Laurenceb_> lul in a state of emergency firefighters have same powers as police, and may be appointed on whim 2016-05-12T04:01:06 < Laurenceb_> the home secretary may direct the fire service not to fight a fire or attend an emergency 2016-05-12T04:02:11 < Laurenceb_> this deserves some cartoons: firefighter tipped nuclear missiles and vigilante firefighter mobs 2016-05-12T04:02:51 < Laurenceb_> TIL UK version of swatting is firefightering 2016-05-12T04:06:36 < Thorn> russian firefighters are more badass https://youtu.be/tZ_0XfGetvk?t=6m39s 2016-05-12T04:10:25 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to prison when these bastards show up at my house 2016-05-12T04:10:50 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-05-12T04:16:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-176-21-163.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T04:28:21 < Rob235> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucddoddfpeylck4/20160511_212140_7167_00.mp4?dl=0 gotta fix the stutter but almost done 2016-05-12T04:37:32 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T04:49:42 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhbuEUoxntQ retarded DJI owners are retarded 2016-05-12T04:54:07 < Rob235> ddodongs, fi ix muh my stuttttter 2016-05-12T04:58:50 < Rob235> nevermind, I fixed it 2016-05-12T05:15:02 < dongs> 10:59 < dongs> there appears to be a bunch of negro solutions: https://volumio.org/raspberry-pi-i2s-dac-sounds-so-good/ 2016-05-12T05:15:05 < dongs> 11:06 < [Saint]> 'negro solutions'? - holy shit dude, get a social filter or I'll remove you. 2016-05-12T05:15:09 < dongs> someone is sensitive on the internet 2016-05-12T05:15:37 < dongs> cockbox 2016-05-12T05:15:42 < dongs> its over now tho 2016-05-12T05:16:15 < dongs> you'll probably get both of us banned 2016-05-12T05:17:56 < dongs> For high-quality audio, we always recommend RCA cables. The DAC+ Pro therefore is only available with gold-plated RCA jacks. 2016-05-12T05:24:04 < dongs> no way 2016-05-12T05:24:05 < dongs> digital sucks 2016-05-12T05:24:09 < dongs> so much jitter 2016-05-12T05:24:18 < dongs> you need 10mhz rubudium reference to be serious wiht digital 2016-05-12T05:24:44 < dongs> if I ever get to dickstarting an audiophile device 2016-05-12T05:24:50 < dongs> I will put a SMA connector for 10Mhz reference 2016-05-12T05:24:56 < dongs> and just terminate it with a cap to ground 2016-05-12T05:25:08 < dongs> and not connect it anywhere 2016-05-12T05:25:22 < dongs> and then post reviews how soundstage widened after plugging it into a $9000 10mhz clock 2016-05-12T05:25:51 < dongs> good idea y/n 2016-05-12T05:28:20 < Thorn> is it even possible to market consumer audio products without any audiophile bullshit? 2016-05-12T05:28:28 < dongs> no but who cares 2016-05-12T05:28:32 < dongs> the money is there 2016-05-12T05:28:38 < dongs> you just gotta write bullshit 2016-05-12T05:28:54 < dongs> get a logo stylized as goatse 2016-05-12T05:28:58 < dongs> widening the soundstage 2016-05-12T05:29:38 < Thorn> http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm 2016-05-12T05:29:59 < Thorn> "... were disturbed that we were using ordinary heavy zip cord instead of one of the popular brands of speaker wire. ... When we changed the wire to a popular brand of wire, customers were happy with the setup" 2016-05-12T05:30:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-12T05:31:03 < Thorn> and red caps, gold op amps etc. etc. 2016-05-12T05:31:12 < dongs> yes 2016-05-12T05:36:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T05:40:01 < Thorn> there are people who will pick apart your product and shit all over it on their forums unless you do it the audiophile way 2016-05-12T05:40:14 < dongs> whats hte "audiophile" way 2016-05-12T05:40:17 < Thorn> according to their own understanding of electronics 2016-05-12T05:40:54 < dongs> the thing I've always wanted to do is don't have pads for NC pins 2016-05-12T05:41:02 < dongs> thats the pro way 2016-05-12T05:41:31 < Thorn> red caps, gold op amps, no series caps at all and so on 2016-05-12T05:41:38 < ReadError> lol do it the china way, mask over where the pad would be 2016-05-12T05:41:40 < ReadError> and route under 2016-05-12T05:41:53 < dongs> obviously mask, but I mean, not even have pad there 2016-05-12T05:41:59 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-12T05:50:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T05:54:00 < upgrdman> damn, that was fast. orders from dirty pcbs 7 days ago and my boards arrived today. 2016-05-12T05:54:33 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-12T05:55:04 < ReadError> you wont believe this 2016-05-12T05:55:06 < ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Quads/i-sVsDN2j/0/X3/CA_05111622541998-X3.jpg 2016-05-12T05:55:14 < ReadError> this is how it came...from CHINA 2016-05-12T05:55:17 < upgrdman> also: i've gone full Maker. breadboardable half-bridge (but provision for high power w/o breadboard) and an lcd hat for the ras pi 2016-05-12T05:55:28 < upgrdman> so fucking pro: http://www.farrellf.com/temp/half_bridge_and_lcd_boards.jpg 2016-05-12T05:55:50 < upgrdman> ReadError, wow, they actually put it in an ESD bag. lucky you 2016-05-12T05:56:14 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-12T05:56:18 < ReadError> not loose in a bag 2016-05-12T05:56:28 < ReadError> or on cardboard with staticwrap 2016-05-12T05:56:51 < upgrdman> crt, two of them will be used as an h-bridge for my induction heater 2016-05-12T05:57:09 < upgrdman> and three of them will be used to fucking around with trying to make a BLDC ESC 2016-05-12T05:57:52 < upgrdman> i fucked up the diode footprint on the half-bridge, but it works well enough 2016-05-12T06:01:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:acc1:90d3:6b02:747a] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T06:02:44 < upgrdman> well it "works" ... only diode have that'll "fit" is a shitkey diode with like 200uA of leakage. so the boost cap drains quick if i dont keep PWMing. will fix on my new mouser order :/ 2016-05-12T06:03:33 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-12T06:05:58 < dongs> good job 2016-05-12T06:06:01 < dongs> what footprint did you use? 2016-05-12T06:06:12 < dongs> copypasted from some shitty internet altidong libarary??? 2016-05-12T06:06:14 < dongs> without measureing 2016-05-12T06:06:18 < dongs> GOOD JOB 2016-05-12T06:07:02 < englishman> http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/conditioner.jpg 2016-05-12T06:10:54 < upgrdman> dongs, i just used a 1206 footprint because i was too lazy to look through my stash of diodes 2016-05-12T06:11:09 < dongs> wow what a fag 2016-05-12T06:11:13 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-05-12T06:25:55 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T06:37:03 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T06:39:05 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T06:39:06 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-12T06:44:11 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-05-12T06:44:39 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T06:46:32 < upgrdman> dongs, http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/people-are-having-sexual-fantasies-about-the-biosphere/news-story/44797e916430b06f544e777537689471?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=News.com.au&utm_medium=Facebook 2016-05-12T06:46:43 < dongs> nice facebook retweet, faggot 2016-05-12T06:46:48 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-12T06:46:53 < dongs> if you paste shit, at least sanitize the url 2016-05-12T06:46:55 < dongs> from all the aids 2016-05-12T06:47:08 < upgrdman> i actually got it from r/wtf, but ya 2016-05-12T06:47:48 < dongs> http://www.news.com.au/news-story/44797e916430b06f544e777537689471 2016-05-12T06:47:52 < dongs> ^ how to hide the contents 2016-05-12T06:47:54 < dongs> to make people click 2016-05-12T06:48:09 < upgrdman> typical middle-eastern kids activity http://i.imgur.com/goPeW6q.gif 2016-05-12T06:48:36 < dongs> upgrdman: get back to work 2016-05-12T06:49:18 < upgrdman> waiting for robot parts to arrivew 2016-05-12T06:49:29 < upgrdman> plan to build a new segway robot, less gay this time 2016-05-12T06:49:31 < dongs> < dongs> upgrdman job 4 u https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/build-robot-move-back-forth/ 2016-05-12T06:49:41 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-12T06:50:07 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T06:50:32 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@162.222.147.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T06:50:32 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@162.222.147.237] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-12T06:50:32 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T06:54:20 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-05-12T06:55:01 < upgrdman> https://imgur.com/a/zJs8J 2016-05-12T06:55:58 < dongs> who the fuck is karlie 2016-05-12T06:56:28 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/reuRuKW.png 2016-05-12T06:56:34 < ReadError> battlebots s02 2016-05-12T06:56:37 < ReadError> featuring multirotors 2016-05-12T06:56:45 < ReadError> ohsix they are some fets, big ole ones 2016-05-12T06:57:23 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/IRFS3006-7PP-IRFS3006-7P-IRFS3006TRL7PP-MOSFET-N-CH-60V-240A-D2PAK7-5pcs/32476783325.html 2016-05-12T06:57:28 < ReadError> nah flames are okay 2016-05-12T06:57:32 < ReadError> lots of bots have them 2016-05-12T06:57:35 < dongs> http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/gta_5/news/amazon_blocks_non-prime_members_from_buying_certain_video_games.html 2016-05-12T06:57:56 < dongs> ReadError: is that for vesc 2016-05-12T06:58:02 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-12T06:58:12 < dongs> $1.40/unidad 2016-05-12T06:58:19 < dongs> i wish fucking shitexpress would stop changing my language 2016-05-12T06:58:23 < dongs> each time i click on some nigger aliexpress link 2016-05-12T06:59:03 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/International-Rectifier/IRFS7530TRL7PP/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduh7XqkSpwvKSB%252b%252bLajVXNKauyRNpQOllhTyDmDICbSunBgeZ3AxkUkC 2016-05-12T06:59:19 < ReadError> shits 3.10 a pop in qty 10+ 2016-05-12T06:59:22 < dongs> looks like someone's been cloning 2016-05-12T06:59:25 < dongs> 0 stock @ mouser 2016-05-12T06:59:27 < ReadError> ali is less than half 2016-05-12T06:59:32 < dongs> betcha you bought them all 2016-05-12T06:59:37 < ReadError> dongs uh no 2016-05-12T06:59:38 < dongs> ReadError: ali is also probably clonez 2016-05-12T06:59:53 < dongs> i have xray pix of "real" infineon fets and shit from ripoffexpress 2016-05-12T06:59:57 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-12T07:00:02 < dongs> looks way diff 2016-05-12T07:00:03 < ReadError> i have 7 panels of vesc coming tho 2016-05-12T07:00:07 < dongs> i bet 2016-05-12T07:00:08 < ReadError> 6 per panel 2016-05-12T07:00:12 < ReadError> not building all those 2016-05-12T07:00:15 < ReadError> but better than osh stuff 2016-05-12T07:00:16 < dongs> gonna use all of them for hobby use RIGHT 2016-05-12T07:00:25 < dongs> totally not selling or anything 2016-05-12T07:00:34 < ReadError> not selling 2016-05-12T07:00:35 < dongs> i stopped chatting about innivations in here 2016-05-12T07:00:38 < dongs> because of people like you 2016-05-12T07:00:38 < ReadError> BOM is super expensive 2016-05-12T07:00:43 < dongs> who just clone + steal ideas 2016-05-12T07:00:53 < ReadError> uhh yea what have i cloned? 2016-05-12T07:00:54 < dongs> lolool 2016-05-12T07:00:56 < ReadError> of yours 2016-05-12T07:01:54 < dongs> know any 14S BMS for lipo? 2016-05-12T07:02:00 < upgrdman> found crt https://i.imgur.com/1ZqH44q.gif 2016-05-12T07:02:02 < dongs> i was gonna tear down a hobbyshit c harger but I see most of them are 8S max 2016-05-12T07:02:11 < ReadError> nah theres a bunch on ali tho 2016-05-12T07:02:17 < dongs> wehre 2016-05-12T07:02:24 < dongs> im gonna need somethign for the fourwheeler 2016-05-12T07:02:30 < dongs> that goes to 14S? 2016-05-12T07:02:44 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/51-8V-30A-14S-PCM-used-for-51-8-V-lithium-ion-battery/1206415913.html 2016-05-12T07:02:59 < dongs> huh, neat 2016-05-12T07:03:25 < dongs> thats basically waht i need. 2016-05-12T07:03:41 < dongs> why the voltage low tho? 2016-05-12T07:03:50 < dongs> 4.20*14 = 58.something isnt it? 2016-05-12T07:04:06 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/14S-58-8V-Lithium-ion-18650-battery-lithium-polymer-battery-BMS-with-200A-constant-current-for/32467710591.html 2016-05-12T07:04:08 < ReadError> more stout 2016-05-12T07:04:11 < ReadError> 200A 2016-05-12T07:04:20 < ReadError> er 150 2016-05-12T07:04:46 < dongs> k that looks better 2016-05-12T07:04:53 < dongs> the leaef balanacer is only 10mA/cell 2016-05-12T07:04:57 < dongs> cuz they're nicelyt matched 2016-05-12T07:05:03 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/14S-PCB-PCM-BMS-Protection-Board-For-Li-ion-Li-Po-LiFePO4-Battery-Pack-120A-Continuous/32655803899.html 300A peak 2016-05-12T07:05:57 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HIGH-ACCURACY-BMS16-FOR-2S-TO-16S-LIFEPO4-LIPOLYMER-BATTERY-PACK/32460623131.html 2016-05-12T07:05:59 < ReadError> thats kinda neat 2016-05-12T07:06:52 < dongs> hah 2016-05-12T07:10:10 < ReadError> hmm wtf 2016-05-12T07:10:11 < ReadError> http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/auirfs3006-7p.pdf 2016-05-12T07:10:15 < ReadError> those are the fets they sent 2016-05-12T07:11:44 < ReadError> similar but Rds(on) is higher 2016-05-12T07:14:47 -!- PeterM_obile [~bgdwiepp@1.129.96.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T07:15:50 < PeterM_obile> ReadError, what's that from .cn? Looks like inductors or somethin 2016-05-12T07:16:12 < ReadError> they are the fets in the pdf i just posted 2016-05-12T07:16:20 < ReadError> but I was just impressed with the packaging 2016-05-12T07:16:28 < ReadError> being china and all 2016-05-12T07:16:40 < PeterM_obile> Yeah I didn't get link because internet is fucked 2016-05-12T07:17:50 < PeterM_obile> Are they the 200A 60V DPAK-7s? 2016-05-12T07:17:59 < ReadError> oh 2016-05-12T07:18:04 < ReadError> http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/auirfs3006-7p.pdf 2016-05-12T07:18:20 < ReadError> 240A 60V DPAK-7 2016-05-12T07:18:48 < ReadError> Rds(on) is 1.5mOhm 2016-05-12T07:18:53 < PeterM_obile> Ahh yeah, iirc there is a better one in same package 2016-05-12T07:18:59 < PeterM_obile> Like cheaper too 2016-05-12T07:19:11 < ReadError> the IRFS7530-7PPbF is 1.15mOhm 2016-05-12T07:19:19 < ReadError> but other than that things are pretty similar 2016-05-12T07:19:57 < PeterM_obile> I bet gate charge is xbox hueg - could use as silicon capacitor 2016-05-12T07:20:10 < ReadError> hmm a good bit slower too 2016-05-12T07:20:35 < ReadError> 24 vs 14nS turn on delay 2016-05-12T07:20:44 < PeterM_obile> doesn't matter, drv can't drive it for shit anyway 2016-05-12T07:21:14 < PeterM_obile> Fuck I gotta ignore you on my phone too 2016-05-12T07:21:25 < ReadError> lol 2016-05-12T07:25:23 < PeterM_obile> ReadError I wanna replace the drv with discretes, like ti ucc271011 or whatever its called, and some current sense amps and a buck converter rated to 100v 2016-05-12T07:25:37 < PeterM_obile> Because imho 60v is lacking 2016-05-12T07:26:47 < PeterM_obile> 100v and good fast fet drivers means less dissipation 2016-05-12T07:28:14 < ReadError> PeterM_obile yea I want to transcribe it into altium and do 2 boards 2016-05-12T07:28:37 < ReadError> 1 with the stm32 and stuff and the other with all the power related things 2016-05-12T07:29:04 < ReadError> kicad is so miserable to use 2016-05-12T07:29:09 < PeterM_obile> Yer, infineon has a really nice hsof 100v 1.5mohm fet 2016-05-12T07:29:59 < ReadError> ohsix yes, make schematic in altium 2016-05-12T07:30:06 < PeterM_obile> I did a few boards about a month ago for irf7486 on mcpcb, I should do one for hsof 2016-05-12T07:30:32 < ReadError> lol why 2016-05-12T07:31:16 < ReadError> i only have the russian altium tho 2016-05-12T07:33:42 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/U1E8/chrome-2016-05-12-00-32-41.png 2016-05-12T07:33:46 < ReadError> <3 my korean 2016-05-12T07:34:52 < ReadError> thats where all fedex comes through 2016-05-12T07:35:00 < ReadError> atleast from china/asian places 2016-05-12T07:35:27 < ReadError> ordered 8 days ago 2016-05-12T07:35:43 < ReadError> so pretty decent turn around given i got the slowest option 2016-05-12T07:39:15 < PeterM_obile> Ask em for a quote on a single layer, 1oz, 5cm*7. 5cm mcpcb say qty 16 ReadError, I sent email and heard nothing back so I had it fabbed in china 2016-05-12T07:39:36 < ReadError> PeterM_obile odd, mr han is normally very responsive 2016-05-12T07:39:56 < PeterM_obile> Crt about? 2016-05-12T07:40:12 < dongs> did your internet take a shit 2016-05-12T07:40:25 < PeterM_obile> Yea mad shit 2016-05-12T07:41:05 < PeterM_obile> Crt what voltage/current, and wgat type of load 2016-05-12T07:43:05 < PeterM_obile> No idea, probably price. At high voltages, over about 5a igbts are much much cheaper 2016-05-12T07:43:22 < ReadError> PeterM_obile the quote thing on the site is pretty much what he goes by 2016-05-12T07:43:42 < ReadError> so if you put in the #s it will be accurate, you can reduce cost even more if you add more lead time too 2016-05-12T07:43:45 < PeterM_obile> Yeah but the quote thing doesn't do MCPCB 2016-05-12T07:43:51 < ReadError> but that has to be done over email 2016-05-12T07:44:48 < dongs> mc = ceramic? 2016-05-12T07:44:56 < ReadError> alum 2016-05-12T07:44:57 < PeterM_obile> metalcore 2016-05-12T07:44:59 < ReadError> i think? 2016-05-12T07:45:12 < PeterM_obile> Mcpcb/ims 2016-05-12T07:45:24 < dongs> i think i got some of that mader before 2016-05-12T07:45:30 < PeterM_obile> Metal core pcb or insulated metal substrate 2016-05-12T07:45:31 < dongs> single layer shit 2016-05-12T07:45:36 < PeterM_obile> Yeah 2016-05-12T07:45:37 < dongs> no vias 2016-05-12T07:47:02 < PeterM_obile> Design rules for mcpcb are... odd 2016-05-12T07:47:31 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-12T07:49:16 < dongs> ohsix? 2016-05-12T07:49:26 < dongs> knew without even reading chats. 2016-05-12T07:54:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-12T08:02:12 < dongs> say you already have it 2016-05-12T08:03:29 < jadew> "the sun shines for free, bitch!" and hang up 2016-05-12T08:04:15 < jadew> haha, good point 2016-05-12T08:04:51 < jadew> + apparently mars is not that great for humans 2016-05-12T08:05:03 < jadew> not enough gravity 2016-05-12T08:05:23 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-12T08:05:35 < dongs> ass+burger 2016-05-12T08:06:24 < jadew> Venus seems to be a better destination, but you have to land in mid atmosphere and stay there :D 2016-05-12T08:06:59 < jadew> I think I posted the NASA page about this 2016-05-12T08:07:11 < dongs> lemme guess. ohsix is not talking about stm32 2016-05-12T08:07:22 < jadew> http://sacd.larc.nasa.gov/branches/space-mission-analysis-branch-smab/smab-projects/havoc/ 2016-05-12T08:07:37 < jadew> dongs, you have him blocked? 2016-05-12T08:07:40 < dongs> yes 2016-05-12T08:07:48 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774f55.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:08:01 < jadew> dongs, he said you suck 2016-05-12T08:10:10 < jadew> with what? 2016-05-12T08:10:35 < jadew> ah, hehe, I'm sure dongs checked the online logs :P 2016-05-12T08:11:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:11:29 < jpa-> well online logs don't show ohsix either :P 2016-05-12T08:11:39 < jadew> haha 2016-05-12T08:11:47 < dongs> ahhaha 2016-05-12T08:11:52 < dongs> jpa, awesome. 2016-05-12T08:11:59 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:12:09 < jpa-> persona non grata :) 2016-05-12T08:13:25 < jadew> looking back at the logs I find it fascinating dongs figured out I'm talking to you, I didn't use your nickname in any of the messages 2016-05-12T08:13:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:14:18 < dongs> jadew: because its JUST YOU TALKING 2016-05-12T08:14:23 < dongs> and i have nobody else on ignore 2016-05-12T08:14:31 < jadew> ah, good point lol 2016-05-12T08:14:34 < dongs> 14:03 < jadew> "the sun shines for free, bitch!" and hang up 2016-05-12T08:14:34 < dongs> 14:04 < jadew> haha, good point 2016-05-12T08:14:34 < dongs> 14:04 < jadew> + apparently mars is not that great for humans 2016-05-12T08:14:43 < dongs> random monoblogging without context 2016-05-12T08:14:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T08:14:52 < jadew> yeah, makes sense 2016-05-12T08:15:05 < dongs> 13:49 < crt> i bet you do a controlled burn every time you pack a bong mate 2016-05-12T08:15:06 < dongs> 13:49 < dongs> ohsix? 2016-05-12T08:15:07 < dongs> and this one 2016-05-12T08:15:16 -!- Peter_M_obile [~bgdwiepp@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:18:33 -!- PeterM_obile [~bgdwiepp@1.129.96.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-12T08:21:21 < jadew> ffs, I have two packages in "processing" for almost a week, in the same location, in two different countries 2016-05-12T08:21:51 -!- PeterM_obile [~bgdwiepp@1.144.96.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:22:57 < jpa-> in same location but two different countries? 2016-05-12T08:23:12 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:23:29 < jadew> well, different location for each package, but they haven't moved from their respective locations for almost a week 2016-05-12T08:23:31 -!- Peter_M_obile [~bgdwiepp@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-12T08:23:42 < jpa-> :P 2016-05-12T08:23:51 < jadew> :) 2016-05-12T08:24:02 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-12T08:24:03 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-12T08:25:46 < jadew> ohsix, I hope that's the case, but I don't think I'll get any of them this week cuz they didn't show up in our post's tracking system 2016-05-12T08:27:08 < jadew> on the other hand I had a SA shipped from USA on Monday last week and it came yesterday at my door, also through regular post 2016-05-12T08:27:33 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-12T08:28:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:30:49 -!- PeterM_obile [~bgdwiepp@1.144.96.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T08:30:53 < upgrdman> yay, my 10DOF sample arrives monday. now i just gotta figure out how to use it. 2016-05-12T08:33:27 < ds2> upgrdman: what part is 10DoF? 2016-05-12T08:33:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6aebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T08:33:48 < upgrdman> its a breakout board for a few sensors 2016-05-12T08:33:55 < ds2> oh 2016-05-12T08:34:07 < ds2> a one chip 10DoF would be interesting 2016-05-12T08:34:08 < upgrdman> an 3axis gyro, 3axis accelerometer, 3axis magnetometer and a barometer 2016-05-12T08:35:11 < upgrdman> no no no i need moar dof's. moar. 2016-05-12T08:36:31 < upgrdman> 480ns turn off time on the FETs im using. hehe, no wonder theres shoot-through 2016-05-12T08:36:51 < upgrdman> time to skim the timer cheaper again for dead dick insertion 2016-05-12T08:37:50 < upgrdman> thanx bruh 2016-05-12T08:38:45 < upgrdman> im glad i made this half-bridge breadboard-able. this shit is gonna make random dicking around so much easier. 2016-05-12T08:40:11 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-12T08:40:35 < jadew> ]=[ 2016-05-12T08:40:55 < jadew> sorry 2016-05-12T08:40:58 < upgrdman> theyre not optimized for mass production. its just using a bunch of TO220's, 1206 MLCCs and PTH caps i have laying around. 2016-05-12T08:42:26 < upgrdman> k. well maybe if i still like them in a couple weeks i'll looking into flogging 2016-05-12T08:52:57 < ReadError> lol for every show? 2016-05-12T08:59:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T09:01:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6aebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T09:04:58 < ReadError> a lot of uk shows get labeled s01e01 2016-05-12T09:05:05 < ReadError> and they are just single eps not a series 2016-05-12T09:05:10 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-12T09:09:17 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, post to digg? Thank you! 2016-05-12T09:09:59 < dongs> actually, that neesd correction 2016-05-12T09:10:03 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-12T09:10:08 < dongs> much better. 2016-05-12T09:10:18 < ReadError> lol 2016-05-12T09:11:12 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/wV2BGLO.jpg 2016-05-12T09:11:28 < dongs> clonin' 2016-05-12T09:12:19 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774f55.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T09:13:04 < dongs> wonder if theres some xray realtime thing I can get 2016-05-12T09:13:09 < dongs> snap + load takes too long 2016-05-12T09:13:13 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T09:13:18 < dongs> i'd probly get ballz cancer with that tho 2016-05-12T09:13:26 < ReadError> i need one of them 2016-05-12T09:13:32 < dongs> i bet you do 2016-05-12T09:13:34 < ReadError> i do 2016-05-12T09:13:39 < dongs> for cloner tasks 2016-05-12T09:13:44 < ReadError> yes exactly 2016-05-12T09:13:58 < dongs> i finally got ulazy and xrayed 2 weird crystals i had 2016-05-12T09:14:15 < dongs> 16mhz marked as 12 somehow, b ut inside doenst look any special :( 2016-05-12T09:14:36 < ReadError> wheres the xray of the fake vs real fet 2016-05-12T09:14:50 < dongs> this was like last year lemme see if I saved it 2016-05-12T09:19:56 < ReadError> wonder how much a basic setup is 2016-05-12T09:20:16 < ReadError> with the digital imaging thing 2016-05-12T09:20:38 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-12T09:20:55 < dongs> thats the most expensive part 2016-05-12T09:21:00 < dongs> you can get chinese xray emitter for liek 400bux 2016-05-12T09:21:02 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T09:21:05 < dongs> which might give you cancer 2016-05-12T09:21:19 < dongs> the imager + usb shit for it will run you 1-2k around 2016-05-12T09:21:28 < dongs> kodak rvg 2016-05-12T09:22:16 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162067776178 this is like exactly wat i got 2016-05-12T09:22:21 < dongs> well, same hw 2016-05-12T09:23:57 < upgrdman> why do SMD diodes often have long thing "legs" instead of near end caps like SMD caps/resistors? 2016-05-12T09:24:09 < upgrdman> neat* 2016-05-12T09:25:51 < dongs> upgrdman: use glass dioes then :) 2016-05-12T09:25:55 < dongs> they have end caps. 2016-05-12T09:26:01 < upgrdman> lol fuck that 2016-05-12T09:26:24 < dongs> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ldgYIpXXXXcTXpXXq6xXFXXX6/ZMM2V2-ZMM2V2ST-2-2V-Glass-cylinder-Zener-diode-LL34-package.jpg 2016-05-12T09:26:27 < dongs> like this hsit 2016-05-12T09:26:33 < dongs> nice pic 2016-05-12T09:26:42 < upgrdman> dongs, ya. i have a few hundred of that style diodes. 2016-05-12T09:26:53 < upgrdman> and ya, i never use them because they roll 2016-05-12T09:28:08 < upgrdman> ohsix, what kinda resolution does that imager have 2016-05-12T09:28:39 < upgrdman> now im kinda tempted. i have access to xray at work but nothing with a high res imager 2016-05-12T09:28:40 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-12T09:28:41 < ReadError> hows that work 2016-05-12T09:28:41 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-12T09:28:46 < ReadError> I see the little square sensor thing 2016-05-12T09:28:57 < upgrdman> ReadError, you radiate it, and it shits out pixels 2016-05-12T09:28:58 < ReadError> but do you use a backstop ? 2016-05-12T09:29:15 < ReadError> or something behind what you are imagining ? 2016-05-12T09:29:49 < upgrdman> well dental is pretty low power, but ya, you often do 2016-05-12T09:29:58 < dongs> wgat backstop 2016-05-12T09:30:00 < dongs> i just put it on a chair 2016-05-12T09:30:04 < dongs> and hold the sensor 2016-05-12T09:30:06 < dongs> with junk on top of it 2016-05-12T09:30:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T09:30:09 < dongs> then irradiate myself 2016-05-12T09:30:11 < dongs> with aids 2016-05-12T09:30:27 < dongs> the sensor has this retareded triangle shape on bottom 2016-05-12T09:30:31 < dongs> i should probly 3d print some kinda holder for it 2016-05-12T09:30:36 < dongs> a USE FOR 3D PRINTER OMG 2016-05-12T09:30:42 < dongs> so i could just set it 2016-05-12T09:31:05 < ReadError> oh wait thats the sensor 2016-05-12T09:31:08 < upgrdman> dongs, just get some clay and press it in? 2016-05-12T09:31:08 < ReadError> what shoots the rays 2016-05-12T09:31:17 < dongs> ReadError: nothign in that url 2016-05-12T09:31:22 < dongs> i have some chinese thing in watchlist 2016-05-12T09:31:22 < dongs> sec 2016-05-12T09:31:29 < upgrdman> ReadError, something like that but smaller: http://www.farrellf.com/temp/xray_generator.jpg 2016-05-12T09:32:08 < dongs> that auction must have been removed with prejudice 2016-05-12T09:32:25 < upgrdman> and this http://www.farrellf.com/temp/voltage_multiplier.jpg 2016-05-12T09:33:06 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-12T09:33:09 < dongs> chinese shit went way teh fuck up 2016-05-12T09:33:12 < dongs> the one i had on watch was 400 2016-05-12T09:33:45 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/400932486661 2016-05-12T09:33:47 < dongs> this sorta shit 2016-05-12T09:34:18 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/331850035897 nice, someone knows what's up 2016-05-12T09:34:47 < upgrdman> lol. 70kV 0.1mA... weak as shit. but plenty for dental 2016-05-12T09:35:02 < dongs> upgrdman: sell us some ball-cancer-inducing stuff 2016-05-12T09:35:02 < jpa-> "test working gender" hmm that could be useful 2016-05-12T09:35:10 < upgrdman> dongs, request denied 2016-05-12T09:35:39 < ReadError> so whats the ray blaster called 2016-05-12T09:35:53 < dongs> just xray unit 2016-05-12T09:35:54 < dongs> or whatever? 2016-05-12T09:36:27 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281950238230 2016-05-12T09:36:39 < dongs> on the cheap 2016-05-12T09:36:40 < upgrdman> ReadError, the tube or whole assembly? 2016-05-12T09:36:49 < ReadError> the whole assembly 2016-05-12T09:36:55 < upgrdman> xray generator 2016-05-12T09:37:55 < upgrdman> side note: when a shit xray tube arcs... looking at the EMI near the cable... LOLWUT 2016-05-12T09:38:25 < upgrdman> that trick of a scope probe with it's ground clip shorted to the tip... and you see >200V with it 2016-05-12T09:38:35 < dongs> ncie 2016-05-12T09:39:07 < upgrdman> most of that 7W is heat, in case you didnt know 2016-05-12T09:39:16 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-12T09:41:25 < upgrdman> "water" cooled... lol, oil. 2016-05-12T09:42:32 < PeterM> aww yeee, mineral oil bb 2016-05-12T09:42:35 < upgrdman> shit like this http://www.shell.com/business-customers/lubricants-for-business/shell-diala-electrical-oils.html 2016-05-12T09:43:13 < dongs> i have a feling ive launched ohsix on assburghering spree 2016-05-12T09:43:15 < dongs> amirite y/y/y 2016-05-12T09:43:18 < upgrdman> y 2016-05-12T09:45:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T09:47:59 < PeterM> upgrdman, mostly, if the oil isnt goign to be under super high temps, and is goign to be in a very well sealed container, mineral oil is jsut as good 2016-05-12T09:58:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T09:58:48 < ReadError> 9v batteries are retarded 2016-05-12T10:00:12 < PeterM> SUPER retarded 2016-05-12T10:00:36 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T10:01:14 -!- Guest72319 [~rager@ecsta.cc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T10:02:27 < PeterM> fuckign terrible energy and pwoer density, garbage to mount/socket, expensive, rechargeable ones are even worse for all of those, the have real bad ESR/internal resistance, so much hate for 9v batts 2016-05-12T10:02:47 < PeterM> 9v batts should have died with tubes 2016-05-12T10:03:07 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T10:03:22 < ReadError> mfgs should stop using the fucking things 2016-05-12T10:03:24 < ReadError> let them die out 2016-05-12T10:04:13 * mitrax_ sticks his JBC iron up crt's left nostril 2016-05-12T10:04:18 < ReadError> multimeters 2016-05-12T10:04:21 < mitrax_> crt: does that hurt? 2016-05-12T10:05:55 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:07:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:08:14 -!- Guest99986 [~rager@ecsta.cc] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:08:16 < dongs> ReadError: cant find any info on that bms with lcd screen 2016-05-12T10:09:14 -!- amstan [~amstan@108.161.119.195] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:09:14 -!- amstan [~amstan@108.161.119.195] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-12T10:09:14 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:09:29 < PeterM> dongs what info you want from it? 2016-05-12T10:09:40 < dongs> like where tofucking buy it 2016-05-12T10:09:45 < dongs> im not orderin shit from aliexpress 2016-05-12T10:11:11 < PeterM> http://www.enjpower.com/index.htm 2016-05-12T10:11:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T10:12:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:12:21 < dongs> hmm the lcd thing is not on their site 2016-05-12T10:12:36 < PeterM> it is 2016-05-12T10:12:45 < dongs> udner custom? 2016-05-12T10:12:46 < PeterM> http://www.enjpower.com/product_27_46.htm 2016-05-12T10:13:31 < dongs> of course i clicked 16S BMS, didnt clikc 'universal' 2016-05-12T10:13:35 < dongs> dum me 2016-05-12T10:15:11 < elektrinis> talking about bms 2016-05-12T10:15:12 < elektrinis> https://www.energusps.com/shop/product/battery-controller-s516-150a-750a-36 2016-05-12T10:16:24 < dongs> your trollboard? 2016-05-12T10:16:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-12T10:16:45 < elektrinis> ? 2016-05-12T10:16:56 < dongs> why'd you paste that particular one unless you made it 2016-05-12T10:17:07 < elektrinis> yes I made it. 2016-05-12T10:17:14 < dongs> thats what i meant :) 2016-05-12T10:17:20 < elektrinis> has PeterM made that one from his link? 2016-05-12T10:17:32 < dongs> nah, its stuff readcloner linked earlier 2016-05-12T10:17:46 < dongs> is that a stm32 on it 2016-05-12T10:17:54 < elektrinis> yes 2016-05-12T10:19:16 < dongs> but yours doesnt have a SUPER COOL LCD 2016-05-12T10:19:32 < elektrinis> but it has a super cool android app and bluetooth. 2016-05-12T10:20:23 < elektrinis> check the photos. 2016-05-12T10:21:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.65] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:21:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:acc1:90d3:6b02:747a] has quit [Quit: If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space] 2016-05-12T10:22:21 < elektrinis> special afe is used 2016-05-12T10:22:51 < elektrinis> many companies. like linear, TI, etc 2016-05-12T10:23:22 < PeterM> what is so special about the AFE elektrinis 2016-05-12T10:23:46 < elektrinis> because one chip replaces 300 discretes? 2016-05-12T10:24:25 < elektrinis> yes, so this one handles up to 16 2016-05-12T10:24:31 < PeterM> more liek 50 discretes, but also, its not really special when there are 10s of manufacturers that 10s of different ones 2016-05-12T10:24:36 < elektrinis> handling many cells is not as easy 2016-05-12T10:24:56 < elektrinis> PeterM, not correct 2016-05-12T10:25:10 < elektrinis> there are around 30 different AFEs available 2016-05-12T10:25:26 < elektrinis> but once you start looking in to it, each has its own weird things 2016-05-12T10:25:45 < elektrinis> and you end up scratching all off the list 2016-05-12T10:25:46 < PeterM> not even 2016-05-12T10:25:56 < PeterM> you just work with it, not work around it 2016-05-12T10:25:58 < mitrax_> crt: yeah but it's a 15 year old shitty iron, 30S or something, not even a soldering station 2016-05-12T10:29:04 < PeterM> im guessing your special AFE probably is jsut http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?genericPartNumber=bq76pl455a-q1&fileType=pdf 2016-05-12T10:29:49 < dongs> his has less pins 2016-05-12T10:30:19 < dongs> his is 44-qfp 2016-05-12T10:30:52 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:32:44 < elektrinis> :) 2016-05-12T10:33:06 < elektrinis> that is company secret. 2016-05-12T10:33:24 < elektrinis> but I can tell you one thing 2016-05-12T10:33:31 < dongs> sounds like a challence 2016-05-12T10:33:33 < dongs> challenge 2016-05-12T10:33:35 < elektrinis> BMS looks like a fun and small project 2016-05-12T10:33:45 < elektrinis> but it is not. 2016-05-12T10:33:54 < dongs> this is why im just buying one 2016-05-12T10:33:58 < dongs> instead of assburgering 2016-05-12T10:34:01 < PeterM> is it cellwise CW1165? 2016-05-12T10:34:16 < elektrinis> dobson smart move :) 2016-05-12T10:34:21 < elektrinis> dongs* 2016-05-12T10:34:40 < dongs> PeterM: Package TQFP100 no 2016-05-12T10:34:43 < dongs> PeterM: its TQFP44 2016-05-12T10:34:56 < dongs> https://www.energusps.com/website/image/product.template/36_7e6a4b2/image < 2016-05-12T10:35:58 < dongs> thats stm32 2016-05-12T10:36:02 < dongs> cuz of holes 2016-05-12T10:36:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-12T10:37:26 < PeterM> ahh, meh, so i've listed 2 parts that are fine alternatives to your "special" one jsut off the top of my head, clearly not special. 2016-05-12T10:38:34 < dongs> maybe some rohm shit 2016-05-12T10:38:50 < dongs> ML5238 fits the footprint 2016-05-12T10:39:09 < dongs> but that shit has mcu 2016-05-12T10:39:49 < dongs> PeterM: looks like im not buying from ENJ, they dont do paypal and insist I use scamexpress 2016-05-12T10:40:37 < PeterM> ML5238 looks like it could be at rough glance, but then you have to use your own micro to drive al lthe balancing fets and thats dumb 2016-05-12T10:41:55 < dongs> the description looks similar, 5-16 cells 2016-05-12T10:42:30 < PeterM> elektrinis, is your BMS suitable for use in a EV? 2016-05-12T10:43:17 < elektrinis> does not yet have passenger vehicle certification 2016-05-12T10:43:57 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T10:44:23 < elektrinis> ok have to restart, damn updates 2016-05-12T10:44:25 < PeterM> good enough 2016-05-12T10:45:01 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:45:46 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:46:21 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-05-12T10:46:32 < dongs> k chinagirl sucked some dick and got it anyway 2016-05-12T10:48:48 < PeterM> NUTRIENTSSS 2016-05-12T10:49:06 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T10:50:10 < dongs> ok blogs reduced 2016-05-12T10:51:44 < elektrinis> :) 2016-05-12T10:51:46 < elektrinis> it is 2016-05-12T10:52:35 < dongs> < elektrinis> it is 2016-05-12T10:52:37 < dongs> waht is this in reply to? 2016-05-12T10:52:39 < mitrax_> ohsix: i remember you pasted a link to an intersil one that was really nice, but yeah very expensive 2016-05-12T10:52:46 < dongs> ah, ohsix assbureginering. 2016-05-12T10:52:47 < mitrax_> dongs: ohsix 2016-05-12T10:52:50 < dongs> k right. 2016-05-12T10:57:56 < elektrinis> no 2016-05-12T10:58:20 < elektrinis> :) 2016-05-12T10:59:02 < elektrinis> isolation between what? 2016-05-12T10:59:28 < elektrinis> p.s. I assume the questions are about ML chip :) 2016-05-12T11:01:45 < elektrinis> well, usually it goes like: if(no(ADC)) scan(); 2016-05-12T11:02:08 < elektrinis> except one maxim part, where it has simultaneous sample and hold 2016-05-12T11:02:55 < elektrinis> but that does not solve potential difference 2016-05-12T11:06:02 < elektrinis> any way you put it, you still need an AFE 2016-05-12T11:06:28 < elektrinis> these are quite expensive, but are still much cheaper than other discrete solutions 2016-05-12T11:06:48 < elektrinis> I had an idea for charge transfer.. 2016-05-12T11:06:54 < elektrinis> with simple mux 2016-05-12T11:07:05 < elektrinis> does up to 8S and 20mA 2016-05-12T11:07:11 < elektrinis> but is dirty cheap. 2016-05-12T11:07:27 < elektrinis> even had a pcb produced.. 2016-05-12T11:07:50 < ReadError> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-auction-gun-killed-trayvon-martin-article-1.2634153 2016-05-12T11:08:20 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-12T11:09:34 < ReadError> I still want to make a nice IR meter 2016-05-12T11:09:42 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-12T11:09:55 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T11:10:38 < ReadError> checking batts 2016-05-12T11:11:30 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Ohmite/HS50-10R-F/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugjtxZv4ZBkIMcqmUfTtxfM5LGtN1ayHzhuVzlZbkyRkg%3d%3d 2016-05-12T11:11:37 < ReadError> got these, they are only 1% though 2016-05-12T11:13:54 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T11:14:32 < ReadError> gj at reading 2016-05-12T11:17:14 < elektrinis> good cells don't require fancy balancing. 2016-05-12T11:17:23 < elektrinis> for example, nissan leaf has 66Ah cells 2016-05-12T11:17:28 < elektrinis> and 15mA balancing. 2016-05-12T11:17:49 < elektrinis> tesla also has like 200Ah of battery 2016-05-12T11:17:55 < elektrinis> and like 50mA of balancing. 2016-05-12T11:21:50 < zyp> the purpose is also not to balance cells, it's to keep them in balance 2016-05-12T11:31:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T11:31:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-12T11:31:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-12T11:35:20 < mitrax_> zyp: eh? maybe my english is flawed but i don't get the nuance 2016-05-12T11:36:37 < zyp> mitrax_, I'm saying that the purpose is not so that you can put in a bunch of unbalanced cells and get them balanced 2016-05-12T11:36:49 < zyp> it's to make sure that cells that were balanced in the first place stays in balance 2016-05-12T11:36:50 < mitrax_> oh ok 2016-05-12T11:40:31 < elektrinis> dongs, are you looking for bms to purchase, or to make? 2016-05-12T11:45:46 < mitrax_> i'm not too familar with modern bms , do they usually just dissipate into passive charges or do they use DC DC to transfer current to other cells? 2016-05-12T11:47:28 < mitrax_> sure, i'm just wondering if DC DC to reuse the current instead of dissipating it really makes sense, given the extra complexity of the circuitry 2016-05-12T11:48:17 < zyp> no, it doesn't 2016-05-12T11:52:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T11:53:22 < mitrax_> too much irc :p 2016-05-12T11:54:32 < mitrax_> i'm awful at multitasking and i always have a hard time believing other people can really be efficient at doing multiple things simultaneously 2016-05-12T11:55:19 < mitrax_> ahah 2016-05-12T11:55:27 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-paemcepfkjgiwqog] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-12T12:02:01 < dongs> elektrinis: to buy, im gonna use 7 of these cells http://imgur.com/a/vpbfH in my fourwheeler 2016-05-12T12:02:47 < elektrinis> ok, leaf pack. 2016-05-12T12:02:51 < dongs> but i got chiangirl to just get that chink shit i linked 2016-05-12T12:03:08 < dongs> its a chink fourwheeler, so it'll be a nice fit 2016-05-12T12:03:11 < elektrinis> 7 cells = 14s, right? 2016-05-12T12:03:13 < dongs> yea 2016-05-12T12:03:18 < elektrinis> :) 2016-05-12T12:03:19 < dongs> they're 2s2p each 2016-05-12T12:03:42 < elektrinis> two of our clients are using the BMS with leaf cells 2016-05-12T12:04:00 < dongs> i have no doubts it works 2016-05-12T12:17:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T12:29:27 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-12T12:29:40 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-12T12:31:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T12:34:51 < mitrax_> crt: up the mountains 2016-05-12T12:34:59 < dongs> me too 2016-05-12T12:35:04 < dongs> went to ride quad 2016-05-12T12:35:57 < dongs> ~10km roundtrip 2016-05-12T12:36:01 < mitrax_> crt: i was in Italy last week, short vacations 2016-05-12T12:36:23 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/HHO1Cf7.jpg 2016-05-12T12:36:53 < ReadError> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/da/dc/06dadc9ae652d2ee5700f469192bf7b3.jpg 2016-05-12T12:36:54 < ReadError> spotted 2016-05-12T12:37:29 < mitrax_> dongs has long hair! 2016-05-12T12:37:52 < mitrax_> or was it someone seated in front of you? 2016-05-12T12:37:58 < dongs> that 2016-05-12T12:38:24 -!- __rob [~rob@host109-153-137-249.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T12:45:00 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774f55.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T12:47:53 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Murdochs-Pirates-hacking-Ruperts-skullduggery-ebook/dp/B009VA1NVU 2016-05-12T12:47:56 < ReadError> anyone read this? 2016-05-12T12:49:08 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774f55.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T12:51:19 < dongs> ReadError: i bet ohsix has 2016-05-12T12:51:19 < ReadError> this wanker on a CCC speech said its 'the book' 2016-05-12T12:51:29 < ReadError> on breaking chip security 2016-05-12T12:51:35 < ReadError> https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5459_-__-_saal_1_-_201312282145_-_security_of_the_ic_backside_-_nedos#video&t=496 2016-05-12T12:51:39 < ReadError> ava'in a watch 2016-05-12T12:55:56 -!- jfiw [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T12:57:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-12T12:58:35 < mitrax_> lunch time 2016-05-12T12:59:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T13:02:02 < dongs> oh ahahha 2016-05-12T13:02:06 < dongs> im watching peachy scammer videos 2016-05-12T13:02:10 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbLkFqJWINs 2016-05-12T13:02:25 < dongs> https://youtu.be/CbLkFqJWINs?t=113 2016-05-12T13:02:32 < dongs> why the fuck did they get a dicknplace??? 2016-05-12T13:02:42 < dongs> i think the house is just a troll 2016-05-12T13:02:44 < dongs> they're just idiots 2016-05-12T13:02:48 < dongs> just like zano 2016-05-12T13:03:44 < jfiw> I would like to do some EEPROM emulation. can I use cubeMX to generate code for this? 2016-05-12T13:03:50 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here 2016-05-12T13:03:54 < dongs> jfiw: no 2016-05-12T13:04:01 < dongs> jfiw: just use last few sectors of flash 2016-05-12T13:04:09 < dongs> and write your own shit 2016-05-12T13:04:29 < dongs> stencil.. hahahah kapton 2016-05-12T13:04:32 < PeterM> dongs that link re-dicknplace 2016-05-12T13:04:40 < dongs> that link is awful 2016-05-12T13:04:59 < jfiw> I found some sample code here. https://my2.st.com/content/my_st_com/en/products/embedded-software/mcus-embedded-software/stm32-embedded-software/stm32-standard-peripheral-libraries-expansions/stsw-stm32117.license%3d1463046982312.html#design-scroll 2016-05-12T13:05:11 < dongs> jfiw: for what do you need eeeprom emulation 2016-05-12T13:05:25 < jfiw> can I combine this sample emulation code with code generated by cubemx? 2016-05-12T13:05:30 < dongs> FOR WHAT 2016-05-12T13:05:37 < dongs> what the fuck for do you need to "emulate eeprom" for 2016-05-12T13:05:44 < jfiw> dongs, to store config settings 2016-05-12T13:05:50 < dongs> jfiw: so just store them in a struct 2016-05-12T13:05:54 < dongs> and write it into last flash sector 2016-05-12T13:05:59 < dongs> erase -> write -> read 2016-05-12T13:06:23 < dongs> FLASH_ErasePage(), FLASH_WritePage/whatever, and to read just set your struct pointer to thee. 2016-05-12T13:06:24 < ReadError> ohsix unsure, tried to find a copy but all the sites were scammy 2016-05-12T13:06:25 < jfiw> dongs, store in last flash sector means I do not have to do stuff like eeprom emulation? 2016-05-12T13:06:36 < dongs> jfiw: correct 2016-05-12T13:06:56 < jfiw> dongs, wouldn't that sector be overwritten? 2016-05-12T13:07:00 < dongs> reading is just struct yourshit* foo = lastsectoraddress; 2016-05-12T13:07:03 < dongs> by what? 2016-05-12T13:07:14 < dongs> edit your linker script to remove last sector size 2016-05-12T13:07:30 < jfiw> dongs, you are brilliant! 2016-05-12T13:07:37 < jpa-> eeprom emulation is just automatic way to alternate writes between two sectors 2016-05-12T13:07:56 < dongs> overkill just for storing settings 2016-05-12T13:08:17 < jpa-> yeah, if it changes less than 10000 times in device lifetime, you can just write to the sector 2016-05-12T13:08:38 < jpa-> if it changes more often, you'd probably want to use external flash chip anyway 2016-05-12T13:09:09 < jfiw> is this linker script auto-generated by cubemx? do I have to manually create it? 2016-05-12T13:09:31 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T13:09:47 < jpa-> such cubes 2016-05-12T13:10:19 < jfiw> when should one use eeprom emulation versus writing to last flash sector? 2016-05-12T13:10:54 < jpa-> when the write cycle limit of flash is problematic, but not so problematic that even eeprom emulation doesn't work 2016-05-12T13:11:11 < jpa-> so, i'd say in the 10k-100k writes / lifetime range 2016-05-12T13:12:18 < jpa-> you may want multiple sector stuff also if high relibiality in e.g. sudden power failures is needed.. but i don't think the ST "eeprom emulation" example does that 2016-05-12T13:19:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-12T13:20:25 < dongs> you still need to edit linker to reduce your flash size 2016-05-12T13:21:11 < jfiw> dongs, what if I leave the linker alone? as long as my code size is small, the last sector will never be touched, right? 2016-05-12T13:21:18 < dongs> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/nazi-pug-man-arrested-after-teaching-girlfriends-dog-to-perform/ RIP Laurenceb 2016-05-12T13:21:26 < dongs> jfiw: 'theoretically' yes 2016-05-12T13:21:51 < dongs> also, full chip erase will erase it anyway. 2016-05-12T13:21:54 < dongs> but sector-by-sector wont 2016-05-12T13:22:25 < jfiw> dongs, every time I reprogram the code, the last sector will be erased as well? 2016-05-12T13:23:03 < dongs> depending how you flash, full erase or sector 2016-05-12T13:25:59 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T13:26:30 < jfiw> can i set some default config value in the last flash sector when programming the flash? 2016-05-12T13:28:01 < dongs> why not 2016-05-12T13:28:09 < dongs> make your struct have some known bytes at start/end 2016-05-12T13:28:11 < dongs> read them 2016-05-12T13:28:14 < dongs> if they're FF< its empty 2016-05-12T13:28:16 < dongs> write a default config in. 2016-05-12T13:28:42 < dongs> also make a CRC over whole thing and store that too 2016-05-12T13:28:47 < dongs> incase you change shit inside the struct 2016-05-12T13:29:01 < dongs> like make it larger/smaller. 2016-05-12T13:29:12 < dongs> erase/write defaults in when that happens. 2016-05-12T13:33:04 -!- jfiw [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T13:36:08 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDzaoRIZnz8 haha 2016-05-12T13:37:50 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T13:38:50 < dongs> Laurenceb: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/nazi-pug-man-arrested-after-teaching-girlfriends-dog-to-perform/ RIP Laurenceb 2016-05-12T13:40:57 < eft> hahaha that was on the front page of reddit 2016-05-12T13:41:09 < eft> but arrested for it? thats a bit unnecessary 2016-05-12T13:43:58 < dongs> blame jews 2016-05-12T13:44:13 < eft> usually do 2016-05-12T13:44:44 < eft> i was sued by a jew once, blame them for everything now 2016-05-12T13:45:14 < jadew> that's not unnecessary, it's crazy 2016-05-12T13:45:35 < eft> lol yeah 2016-05-12T13:45:40 < jadew> it's not like the guy started a crusade against jews or tought his dog to attack jews 2016-05-12T13:45:55 < jadew> also, jews are not a race 2016-05-12T13:45:56 < eft> yeah, cant imagine the arrest being legal 2016-05-12T13:46:06 < jadew> all those people mentioned in the article saying he's racist, are retards 2016-05-12T13:46:13 < eft> lololol 2016-05-12T13:46:42 < jadew> he may be a neo-nazi tho, we don't know that, but antisemitism != racism 2016-05-12T13:49:43 < eft> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2016-05-12T13:51:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@142-217-197-241.telebecinternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T13:52:08 < dongs> hurr 2016-05-12T13:52:15 < dongs> chinese RSxxxNL is actually trackable now 2016-05-12T13:52:20 < dongs> as 'shipping information received' 2016-05-12T13:52:20 < dongs> lols. 2016-05-12T13:52:33 < dongs> i cant really imagine how china->netherlands->japan is faster than china->japan 2016-05-12T13:52:55 < dongs> sounds like that swisspost trash hobbyking used to use 2016-05-12T13:53:15 < jadew> lol 2016-05-12T13:53:33 < jadew> it's probably cheaper, not faster 2016-05-12T13:53:49 < dongs> cant see how its faster either 2016-05-12T13:53:54 < dongs> er cheapr 2016-05-12T13:54:01 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-12T13:54:35 < jadew> dongs, they probly shove them in with something that was already going that way 2016-05-12T13:54:51 < dongs> yea i dunno man 2016-05-12T13:54:55 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T13:54:55 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-12T13:54:55 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T13:55:24 < dongs> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17038489&postcount=1 2016-05-12T13:55:24 < dongs> lolo 2016-05-12T13:55:42 < dongs> I have been tracking it every day since then and all it said was that it left Singapore, then I went to track it today and it said it arrived in Zurich! Over a month later! and its not even in the US yet! 2016-05-12T13:57:11 < jadew> I got something once through the ebay shipping programme and it took more than a month for it to arrive 2016-05-12T13:57:27 < jadew> like... 6 weeks 2016-05-12T13:57:28 < dongs> global shipping thing? 2016-05-12T13:57:30 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-12T13:57:31 < dongs> that one is not bad to jp 2016-05-12T13:57:37 < dongs> it goes by USPS to their shipping center 2016-05-12T13:57:49 < dongs> then by something to JP and local courier delivers it (+2days) 2016-05-12T13:57:57 < dongs> so probly couple weeks end to end, not to bad 2016-05-12T13:58:31 < jadew> not sure what happened, it seemed to spend a lot of time in US then a lot of time in Germany 2016-05-12T13:59:03 < dongs> USPS is pretty lazy. 2016-05-12T14:12:18 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T14:18:08 < dongs> by "in a while" you mean 14 hours 2016-05-12T14:22:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.197] has joined 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2016-05-12T15:13:28 < Lux> might be useful to you, as it's not much code 2016-05-12T15:13:54 < Rob235> flight controller? 2016-05-12T15:13:57 < Lux> is your stonercopter allready flying or just blinking leds ? :P 2016-05-12T15:13:59 < Lux> yep 2016-05-12T15:14:45 < Rob235> just blinking leds but could be flying next week, code is done, just need to go through pid controller to test values/units 2016-05-12T15:17:13 < Rob235> I want the leds done (only non-essential thing) to show status, so I know when calibration is done and stuff like that, and LEDs are fun :) 2016-05-12T15:26:05 < Rob235> I like seeing instant results and the array math stuff is fun to figure out for different effects 2016-05-12T15:40:08 < Rob235> hmm just realized the background and layer1 have to be at the same refresh rate, is it worth changing things so that they can have different rates... 2016-05-12T15:41:20 < Rob235> yea why not, I already have different refresh rates for the two different animations, adding layers to that won't be difficult 2016-05-12T15:46:13 < Rob235> @ 2016-05-12T15:47:16 < Rob235> you get em soldered? 2016-05-12T15:47:41 < Rob235> what are you using them for 2016-05-12T15:48:28 < Rob235> aren't you talking about those breadboard led things? 2016-05-12T15:51:55 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T15:58:36 < mitrax_> don't forget the shed 2016-05-12T16:00:57 < mitrax_> good 2016-05-12T16:03:13 < mitrax_> yeah, a giant crt wall, with duck porn 2016-05-12T16:05:37 < mitrax_> mmm nope 2016-05-12T16:08:02 < mitrax_> ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi 2016-05-12T16:13:30 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-12T16:16:39 < Rob235> ok I can work on drone until noon, then no more until Monday 2016-05-12T16:17:42 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@dhcp-190031.eduroam.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T16:20:07 -!- oz4ga 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2016-05-12T17:18:48 < qyx> I could count the pulses with input capture though 2016-05-12T17:19:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T17:20:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T17:20:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T17:22:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T17:25:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T17:25:57 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T17:26:31 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T17:34:33 -!- rel [~rel@zux221-201-097.adsl.green.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-12T17:37:51 < BrainDamage> does it have to be realtime and lightweight? if it's a one-off thing just have a fft with a stupid amount of bins, 5MHz sampling rate and 4M bins will give you a resolution of 2*5/4 Hz width 2016-05-12T17:39:14 < qyx> reltime and lighweight 2016-05-12T17:39:27 < qyx> coil metal detection 2016-05-12T17:39:59 < BrainDamage> then square and count pulses in a timer 2016-05-12T17:40:27 < qyx> ok, then my LC tank is not enough, I need to make an oscillator from it 2016-05-12T17:48:23 -!- rel [~rel@zux221-046-129.adsl.green.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T17:51:03 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T17:54:14 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@dhcp-190031.eduroam.chalmers.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T17:56:22 < Laurenceb_> matlab on beaglebone 2016-05-12T17:57:48 < qyx> I wonder if theres a way to make an inverter inside stm32 2016-05-12T17:58:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.51] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T18:01:34 < qyx> lol, lets haxor HSI 2016-05-12T18:01:44 < dongs> wat 2016-05-12T18:01:44 < qyx> *LSE 2016-05-12T18:02:09 < qyx> I need to make an LC oscillator for metal detection 2016-05-12T18:02:32 < qyx> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Pierce_oscillator.svg/220px-Pierce_oscillator.svg.png 2016-05-12T18:02:42 < qyx> if you look at the pierce oscillator 2016-05-12T18:02:48 < dongs> o 2016-05-12T18:03:27 < qyx> maybe it would be possible to use an inductor instead of that crystal 2016-05-12T18:03:39 < BrainDamage> you want LC 2016-05-12T18:03:45 < qyx> and iirc the LSE output can be routed to one of the timers 2016-05-12T18:03:46 < BrainDamage> but yes, it'll work 2016-05-12T18:04:22 < qyx> that way I could directly measure LSE freq using HSE 2016-05-12T18:05:16 < BrainDamage> you can also build a colpitts oscillator 2016-05-12T18:05:40 < qyx> I want to avoid external discretes as much as possible 2016-05-12T18:06:33 < PeterM> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lvc1gx04.pdf 2016-05-12T18:06:42 -!- k\o\w [~kow@174.115.197.152] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T18:07:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-12T18:10:32 < Ecco> hey 2016-05-12T18:11:23 < Ecco> I'm trying to figure out the footprint of an Molex connector 2016-05-12T18:11:29 < Ecco> http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/1050170001_sd.pdf 2016-05-12T18:11:33 < Ecco> That's a micro USB connector 2016-05-12T18:11:57 < Ecco> On the bottom right of the first page, there's what I assume is the PCB footprint of that part 2016-05-12T18:12:02 < Ecco> and I quite don't understand it 2016-05-12T18:12:21 < Ecco> there are 4 holes, which are plated 2016-05-12T18:12:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-12T18:12:28 < Ecco> That I understand 2016-05-12T18:12:34 < Ecco> 5 pins, makes perfect sense 2016-05-12T18:12:38 < Ecco> but there are two big pads 2016-05-12T18:12:41 < Ecco> which I don't get 2016-05-12T18:12:42 < PeterM> jeeze you already fucked up 2016-05-12T18:12:47 < PeterM> with oyur first statement 2016-05-12T18:12:54 < PeterM> there are 4 holes, which are plated 2016-05-12T18:13:01 < PeterM> 2 holes 2 slots m8 2016-05-12T18:13:06 < Ecco> Yes, indeed 2016-05-12T18:13:13 < dongs> the big pads are just for structural 2016-05-12T18:13:24 < Ecco> That's just a vocabulary issue, I did realize the holes weren't round :) 2016-05-12T18:13:25 < dongs> i usually connect tose to gnd and drop some vias in them 2016-05-12T18:13:35 < metRo_> hi all 2016-05-12T18:13:40 < Ecco> so the big pads are on the top layer 2016-05-12T18:13:49 < dongs> what other layer would tehy be at 2016-05-12T18:13:53 < metRo_> can you help me understand what is happening here http://pastebin.com/nMD1TdKq 2016-05-12T18:14:05 < Ecco> Well, the holes/slots are on the bottom layer aren't they? 2016-05-12T18:14:12 < PeterM> ecco the two outer pads can be duplicated on the bottom side 2016-05-12T18:14:16 < metRo_> lines 18 and 22 2016-05-12T18:14:17 < Ecco> I mean, the pad of those holes 2016-05-12T18:14:42 < PeterM> but thats a given 2016-05-12T18:14:59 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-12T18:15:01 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-12T18:15:21 < PeterM> you make the plated slots and the plated holes 2016-05-12T18:15:23 < Ecco> So these pads are just here to solidly attach the plug to the PCB, right? 2016-05-12T18:15:26 < PeterM> then you add the pads to the top 2016-05-12T18:15:44 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-12T18:15:46 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-05-12T18:15:47 < Ecco> Thanks! 2016-05-12T18:15:55 < PeterM> ye 2016-05-12T18:16:25 < metRo_> can you help me understand what is happening on lines 18 and 22 http://pastebin.com/nMD1TdKq ? 2016-05-12T18:16:44 < PeterM> they arent super important becauise those usbs are pretty sigid (slto types) 2016-05-12T18:16:47 < Ecco> metRo_: I tried to understand, but it's honestly very hard to read 2016-05-12T18:17:11 < metRo_> the result of the or on () 2016-05-12T18:17:12 < Ecco> Yeah, that's why I picked those 2016-05-12T18:17:25 < metRo_> is diferent from the value on the varaible Ecco 2016-05-12T18:17:54 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-12T18:17:57 < metRo_> line 12 of the ouput is the one you should look into 2016-05-12T18:18:04 < Ecco> I got it 2016-05-12T18:18:06 < metRo_> line 18 and 22 of the output are gdp print of it 2016-05-12T18:18:20 < Ecco> Probably because rw_buffer is modified by the hardware while your debugging? 2016-05-12T18:19:25 < metRo_> Ecco: it is on a timer interrupt handler 2016-05-12T18:20:30 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-12T18:21:16 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T18:26:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-12T18:28:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T18:35:27 < metRo_> Ecco: any hint on what is going on? 2016-05-12T18:39:37 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T18:40:55 < __rob> metro, are asking why or what that code does ? 2016-05-12T18:41:15 < metRo_> __rob: why 2016-05-12T18:41:35 < __rob> I guess becuase the buffer is some bytes from somewhere that represent a float 2016-05-12T18:41:37 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-12T18:42:04 < metRo_> __rob I have a float on my pc aplication that I send to the stm32 2016-05-12T18:42:16 < __rob> what is rx_buffer ? 2016-05-12T18:42:19 < __rob> what type 2016-05-12T18:42:25 < metRo_> whatever 4 bytes I sent the last byte doesn't go ok 2016-05-12T18:42:41 < metRo_> __rob rx_buffer is a uint8_t array 2016-05-12T18:42:57 < metRo_> it is like a round queue 2016-05-12T18:43:21 < metRo_> when I receive data from USB I save it here and looks for a frame 2016-05-12T18:43:37 < metRo_> when got a frame take the 4 bytes from the frame and copy it to a float 2016-05-12T18:43:44 < metRo_> the float is generated on a pc aplcation 2016-05-12T18:43:58 < __rob> is this your code ? 2016-05-12T18:44:01 < metRo_> the 4 bytes from the float that are sent from the PC and arrive at the STM32 are ok 2016-05-12T18:44:11 < metRo_> __rob: yes 2016-05-12T18:44:29 < __rob> but the float comes out wrong ? 2016-05-12T18:44:37 < metRo_> __rob: yes 2016-05-12T18:44:39 < metRo_> float tmp = (float)(rx_buffer_[i+5] << 24 | rx_buffer_[i+4] << 16 | rx_buffer_[i+3] << 8 | rx_buffer_[i+2]); 2016-05-12T18:44:55 < metRo_> if I print it on gdb (rx_buffer_[i+5] << 24 | rx_buffer_[i+4] << 16 | rx_buffer_[i+3] << 8 | rx_buffer_[i+2]); the bytes are all ok 2016-05-12T18:44:56 < __rob> dont think you want to cast to a float 2016-05-12T18:45:03 < metRo_> it was just a try :s 2016-05-12T18:45:04 < __rob> think you want to put in temporary uint32 2016-05-12T18:45:12 < metRo_> lets try 2016-05-12T18:45:17 < __rob> then cast *(float*)&tmp 2016-05-12T18:45:33 < __rob> so your just changing what the bits are considered as 2016-05-12T18:45:37 < __rob> rather then copying into a float 2016-05-12T18:46:10 < __rob> try... 2016-05-12T18:46:29 < __rob> uint32_t tmpu = (rx_buffer_[i+5] << 24 | rx_buffer_[i+4] << 16 | rx_buffer_[i+3] << 8 | rx_buffer_[i+2]); 2016-05-12T18:46:29 < metRo_> __rob I'm trying 2016-05-12T18:46:40 < __rob> float tmpf = *(float*)&tmp; 2016-05-12T18:48:06 < metRo_> __rob tmp is now printing ok :) I'm now cast it to float 2016-05-12T18:48:12 < __rob> good 2016-05-12T18:48:36 < __rob> just remember when you do float = someuint, you are copying the value, not the bits 2016-05-12T18:49:34 < metRo_> __rob: but that is strange because the result was also a decimal number 2016-05-12T18:49:43 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-12T18:51:02 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T18:51:47 < metRo_> __rob something wrong (gdb) p /x tmp $1381 = 0x4030201 (gdb) p /x tmpf $1382 = 0x0 2016-05-12T18:52:05 < metRo_> you take a pointer to tmp 2016-05-12T18:52:14 < metRo_> cast it to a float pointer 2016-05-12T18:52:20 < metRo_> and then take the value of that pointer 2016-05-12T18:52:24 < metRo_> thats make sense 2016-05-12T18:55:06 < metRo_> _rob forget my gdb paste 2016-05-12T18:55:17 < metRo_> I think it is working 2016-05-12T18:55:34 < metRo_> 0x4030201 isn't a valid float -.-' so your code is working 2016-05-12T18:55:51 < dongs> http://www.applied-computer.com/Inventories/ProductDetail.aspx?PG=0&GroupID=1915483 what a deal 2016-05-12T18:56:15 < dongs> holy shit 130nm 2016-05-12T18:56:26 < dongs> we're now at 10x less that 2016-05-12T19:00:00 < zyp> metRo_, what do you mean? 0x4030201 is the binary representation of 1.5399896e-36 2016-05-12T19:01:01 < metRo_> __rob it isn't working 2016-05-12T19:01:29 < metRo_> zyp you're right 2016-05-12T19:01:52 < metRo_> __rob the result http://pastebin.com/SkNXnBUm 2016-05-12T19:02:03 < metRo_> BTW the number I'm trying to send is 22.2 2016-05-12T19:03:27 < metRo_> zyp: did you see my first pastebin? 2016-05-12T19:03:45 < zyp> no 2016-05-12T19:03:48 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T19:05:11 < metRo_> zyp: I'm sending a float value from my pc to stm32 but I'm having problems create the float on the stm32 2016-05-12T19:05:35 < metRo_> the 4 bytes I'm sending from the PC are received on STM32 and they are ok 2016-05-12T19:05:37 < dongs> have you considered endianness and sizeof(float)? 2016-05-12T19:05:52 < metRo_> sizeof(float) is 4 on both architectures 2016-05-12T19:06:01 < metRo_> about endianness no... 2016-05-12T19:06:11 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-12T19:06:26 < metRo_> dongs: but if it is a problem it should be on all bits and not only on the LSB 2016-05-12T19:06:36 < zyp> metRo_, so, how does your code look? 2016-05-12T19:07:03 < metRo_> zyp first I tried: float tmp = (rx_buffer_[i+5] << 24 | rx_buffer_[i+4] << 16 | rx_buffer_[i+3] << 8 | rx_buffer_[i+2]); 2016-05-12T19:07:09 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T19:07:10 < metRo_> rx_buffer is a uint8_t 2016-05-12T19:07:23 < zyp> what's the float you're sending? 22.2? 2016-05-12T19:07:34 < metRo_> zyp yes 2016-05-12T19:07:45 < metRo_> http://pastebin.com/nMD1TdKq you can look here at lines 18 and 22 2016-05-12T19:07:46 < zyp> well, that obviously won't owrk 2016-05-12T19:07:51 < zyp> yes, I'm looking 2016-05-12T19:08:19 < metRo_> then __rob tell me to try it uint32_t tmpu = (rx_buffer_[i.... / float tmpf = *(float*)&tmp; 2016-05-12T19:08:31 < metRo_> but it didn't work too 2016-05-12T19:08:33 < zyp> you're reconstructing the bytes into an integer, then making a floating point representation of the same number 2016-05-12T19:08:40 < metRo_> I tried memcpy also with no sucess 2016-05-12T19:08:53 < zyp> what __rob suggests is the right way 2016-05-12T19:08:57 < metRo_> should I cast each byte the a float pointer? 2016-05-12T19:09:05 < metRo_> but it didn't work too 2016-05-12T19:09:21 < metRo_> let me try again and check if is all as he said 2016-05-12T19:09:28 < zyp> eh, try this: 2016-05-12T19:09:33 < Rob235> is it possible to extend your desktop/monitor to another computer on your network? like through remote desktop type thing or vnc 2016-05-12T19:09:34 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T19:10:14 < zyp> float tmp = *(float*)((intptr_t)rx_buffer_ + 2); 2016-05-12T19:10:51 < zyp> it'll break down on platforms without unaligned access support though, i.e. cortex-m0 2016-05-12T19:10:58 < zyp> but should work fine on m3 and up 2016-05-12T19:10:59 < metRo_> zyp it is worrking 2016-05-12T19:11:04 < metRo_> the __rob solution 2016-05-12T19:11:09 < metRo_> my bad 2016-05-12T19:11:31 < metRo_> I'm working a m0 2016-05-12T19:12:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T19:12:15 < metRo_> zyp why memcpy doesn't working? 2016-05-12T19:12:34 < zyp> dunno, it should 2016-05-12T19:12:35 < metRo_> maybe because on the PC side I'm casting it to uint8_t to send it? 2016-05-12T19:13:15 < metRo_> zyp memcpy is also working :) 2016-05-12T19:13:20 < metRo_> ok now all make sense :) 2016-05-12T19:13:26 < metRo_> thank you both :) 2016-05-12T19:14:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:a080:fcf:1f73:f8b5] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T19:15:06 < Rob235> why does keeping a high (or possibly any?) balance on a credit card increase your credit score by a lot? 2016-05-12T19:15:07 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T19:17:03 < dongs> ? 2016-05-12T19:17:09 < Ecco> Isn't that the definition of credit score? 2016-05-12T19:17:24 < Rob235> shouldn't paying off your card (0 balance) increase your score? 2016-05-12T19:17:45 < Ecco> oh, by high you meant negative (as in you owe money to the bank)? 2016-05-12T19:17:56 < zyp> yeah, credit is owing 2016-05-12T19:18:05 < Rob235> if my card has a zero balance when it's reported for that month my score drops 80 points, this month it was reported at 50% and my score went up 80 points 2016-05-12T19:18:21 < Ecco> Anyway, the whole credit score thing is such bullshit 2016-05-12T19:18:26 < dongs> move out of usa 2016-05-12T19:18:27 < Rob235> yea I agree 2016-05-12T19:18:28 < dongs> problem solved 2016-05-12T19:18:33 < zyp> typical american bullshit 2016-05-12T19:18:35 < dongs> or: get a debit card 2016-05-12T19:18:40 < dongs> so its taken out immediately. 2016-05-12T19:18:45 < Rob235> I have one, I'm just trying to rebuild my credit if I need it 2016-05-12T19:18:56 < Rob235> started with a secured card and now it's a regular card 2016-05-12T19:19:21 < dongs> if you arent paying off your cc monthly in full, you're fucked already anyway 2016-05-12T19:19:35 < dongs> cuz there's no return from that 2016-05-12T19:19:50 < Rob235> I have had this card for almost 2 years and I've paid maybe a dollar in interest, I always pay it off in time 2016-05-12T19:20:26 < qyx> what should I do to enable LSE? 2016-05-12T19:20:44 < qyx> bseides setting LSEON 2016-05-12T19:20:57 < zyp> hook up 32k crystal 2016-05-12T19:21:05 < Rob235> I want another secured card but it will drop my average credit age which is ridiculous, and I can't find another one that doesn't have an annual fee or doesn't switch to a real card after a year 2016-05-12T19:21:22 < qyx> is that all? no backup domain power control and such things? 2016-05-12T19:21:23 < dongs> anal fee 2016-05-12T19:21:36 < zyp> qyx, idk, never used LSE really 2016-05-12T19:21:47 < zyp> rtfm? :p 2016-05-12T19:22:09 < qyx> reading it, doesn't help 2016-05-12T19:26:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T19:27:14 < qyx> omg 2016-05-12T19:27:17 < Ecco> Meh 2016-05-12T19:27:23 < Ecco> I'm having a hard time figuring USB pinout 2016-05-12T19:27:25 < qyx> PWR_CR |= PWR_CR_DBP; 2016-05-12T19:27:26 < Ecco> Isn't this wrong? 2016-05-12T19:27:28 < Ecco> http://www.artsmartiauxcombat.com/rubriques/micro-usb-cable-pinout-i1.jpg 2016-05-12T19:27:29 < ReadError> dongs http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__90541__Afro_20A_Race_Spec_4_in_1_ESC_and_CC3D_Flight_Controller.html 2016-05-12T19:27:31 < ReadError> the fuck is this 2016-05-12T19:29:09 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T19:29:31 < upgrdman> Rob235, because credit scores are not used to see if you have good financial self-control. they're used to see if you can pay back a debt reliably ... in order words, to score how good of a *customer* you would be to a lender 2016-05-12T19:30:39 < Rob235> would a low balance be the same as a high balance? just to show you are using the card and paying your bill 2016-05-12T19:30:52 < upgrdman> dunno 2016-05-12T19:35:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T19:37:04 -!- Laurenceb_ 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I give them all the same designator 2016-05-12T20:09:36 < zyp> but for numbered pins, I just make a pin for each in the schematic symbol 2016-05-12T20:10:30 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T20:14:05 < Laurenceb_> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/05/11/239250/pornhub-launches-bug-bounty-program-with-rewards-up-to-25000 2016-05-12T20:24:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-12T20:34:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.210] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T20:34:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-12T20:36:10 < qyx> ok, LC doesn't work for LSE, but works for HSE 2016-05-12T20:36:17 < qyx> at ~3.6MHz 2016-05-12T20:36:30 < qyx> there is too much jitter on the MCO pin 2016-05-12T20:37:21 < qyx> if I come close to the coil with a crimping tool, the freq shifts by few kilohertz 2016-05-12T20:37:33 -!- upgrdman 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series 2016-05-12T22:31:56 < kakimir> primary sides in series 2016-05-12T22:32:05 < kakimir> secondary sides in paraller 2016-05-12T22:32:29 < kakimir> to weld battery tabs 2016-05-12T22:36:38 < kakimir> whatever 2016-05-12T22:36:49 < kakimir> I throw transformers at it then 2016-05-12T22:37:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:e1e9:c47c:c1b7:e9ae] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T22:47:35 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-12T22:52:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T22:57:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:e1e9:c47c:c1b7:e9ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-12T23:04:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:e1e9:c47c:c1b7:e9ae] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-12T23:06:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-12T23:07:20 -!- Tectu 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0wned? lots of spam from them 2016-05-13T00:13:51 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-13T00:14:51 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T00:15:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T00:31:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:e1e9:c47c:c1b7:e9ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T00:38:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T00:46:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T00:47:01 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-13T00:47:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T00:49:41 < zyp> that's a pretty dumb optimization that I'd expect a decent compiler to figure out for itself 2016-05-13T00:51:11 < zyp> well, the two implementations listed are not identical 2016-05-13T00:51:23 < zyp> the former would return false for -0.0, the latter would return true 2016-05-13T00:51:46 < zyp> because -0.0 < 0.0 is false, but the high bit is still set 2016-05-13T00:51:54 < zyp> which is what distinguishes -0.0 from 0.0 2016-05-13T00:54:13 < zyp> hmm 2016-05-13T00:54:18 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-13T00:54:46 < Ultrasauce> I'd be a bit wary about taking bytes from the wire and jamming them into a float directly in any case 2016-05-13T00:54:50 < Ultrasauce> without some serious validation 2016-05-13T00:54:51 < zyp> whatever I do, gcc ends up just calling __aeabi_fcmplt if I build for M3 2016-05-13T00:55:00 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T00:55:25 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/AfEPj 2016-05-13T00:57:49 < zyp> I know 2016-05-13T00:58:18 < zyp> if I build for M4 with FPU, it uses vcmpe.f32 regardless of the float abi used 2016-05-13T00:58:44 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/fi6vW 2016-05-13T00:59:28 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-13T01:01:06 < zyp> no 2016-05-13T01:01:13 < zyp> that's not what softfp means 2016-05-13T01:01:33 < zyp> softfp means that floats are passed in cpu registers, but fpu is still used 2016-05-13T01:01:48 < zyp> it's just an ABI setting 2016-05-13T01:02:11 < zyp> well 2016-05-13T01:02:20 < zyp> in the softfp case, the float is passed in in r0 2016-05-13T01:02:42 < zyp> then moved to the fpu for the comparison 2016-05-13T01:03:13 < zyp> well, you're talking about the -mfloat-abi setting 2016-05-13T01:03:32 < zyp> correct 2016-05-13T01:03:52 < zyp> the first paste was without -mfpu, that's right 2016-05-13T01:03:59 < zyp> and these two were with 2016-05-13T01:04:13 < zyp> in any case, it does a proper float conversion 2016-05-13T01:04:54 < karlp> Ultrasauce: why would you not want to take bytes from the wire and put them into your float? what sort of badness are you expecting? how else would you be getting floats? 2016-05-13T01:05:38 < Ultrasauce> well a malformed float can cause a hardfloat right 2016-05-13T01:05:41 < karlp> why? 2016-05-13T01:05:47 < zyp> Ultrasauce, a what? 2016-05-13T01:05:55 < Ultrasauce> er hardfault 2016-05-13T01:05:59 < karlp> NaN is still a float, there's no _danger_ from it 2016-05-13T01:06:04 < zyp> Ultrasauce, no 2016-05-13T01:06:08 < karlp> making it some other radix wouldn't change anything. 2016-05-13T01:06:10 < zyp> the entire 32-bit space is defined 2016-05-13T01:06:26 < karlp> if you want a float, transfer a float. 2016-05-13T01:06:32 < zyp> whatever is not valid number is inf or NaN 2016-05-13T01:06:43 < Ultrasauce> i am thinking about stuff like denormals coming from a different implementation 2016-05-13T01:06:48 < karlp> now you're just spouting opinion about whether you should be using floats or not. 2016-05-13T01:07:06 < karlp> I was querying Ultrasauce's claim that you shouldn't take bytes from the wire into a float type. 2016-05-13T01:07:30 < karlp> which doesn't make any sense to me, if you want a float, and you have bytes on teh wire.... how else are you planning on doing it? 2016-05-13T01:07:34 < Ultrasauce> without good validation 2016-05-13T01:07:37 < Ultrasauce> i didnt say never 2016-05-13T01:07:45 < zyp> what are you going to validate? 2016-05-13T01:07:49 < karlp> so, what exactly are you validating? 2016-05-13T01:07:59 < zyp> I don't see how a float requires any more validation than an integer 2016-05-13T01:08:03 * karlp either 2016-05-13T01:08:20 < Lux> so you can get a hardfault from an invalid float ? really ? 2016-05-13T01:08:31 < zyp> Lux, no 2016-05-13T01:08:33 < karlp> sure, your _application_ might rangfe check for sanity, but that's nothing to do with the bytes-on-wire-> float. 2016-05-13T01:08:50 < Lux> so add a checksum and you are fine 2016-05-13T01:09:42 < Lux> zyp: shouldn't it do no floating point instructions if you leave out: -mfpu=fpv4-sp-d16 ? 2016-05-13T01:10:01 < zyp> correct 2016-05-13T01:10:14 < zyp> that's what I did first 2016-05-13T01:10:47 < zyp> conclusion is that in either case, it does a proper float compare and doesn't optimize it to do an integer compare 2016-05-13T01:11:40 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-05-13T01:14:00 < zyp> here's what happens if I hand optimize the function: http://paste.jvnv.net/view/4IXiK 2016-05-13T01:14:39 < zyp> and with float-abi=hard: http://paste.jvnv.net/view/1fiu1 2016-05-13T01:15:25 < zyp> I'm basically reinterpreting it as an int32_t and comparing to 0 2016-05-13T01:15:39 < zyp> and the compiler knows to optimize that to a 31-bit right shift 2016-05-13T01:15:42 < zyp> which is cute 2016-05-13T01:16:04 < zyp> so it's good at integer optimizations, not so much for floating point 2016-05-13T01:16:14 < 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< dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Develop-Electronic-LED-Drivers-Related/ crt you can get paid 2016-05-13T03:05:11 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/DMX-Transmitter-for-LPC-UART/ 2016-05-13T03:05:14 < dongs> thas pretty specific 2016-05-13T03:09:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-13T03:09:45 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T03:14:45 -!- englishman [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-13T03:16:10 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmciglhqqjzayzfv] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T03:42:05 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T03:44:10 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T03:44:40 < Rob235_> come to me firecracker 2016-05-13T03:47:43 < dongs> We need a CIrcuit and PCB designer , we are having circuit but we need low cost design for this circuit and PCB design both, It has SMD microcontroller and components so you must have good knowledge of electronic and components. 2016-05-13T03:47:52 -!- hackvana [~hackvana@2400:6180:0:d0::535:e001] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T03:48:07 < Rob235_> well written 2016-05-13T03:54:42 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Cov7CH1.webm 2016-05-13T03:55:03 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T03:57:19 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-13T04:00:37 < Laurenceb_> a job for zano guys 2016-05-13T04:01:02 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T04:03:23 < Laurenceb_> lul firefox pdf 2016-05-13T04:03:41 < Laurenceb_> pegged processor for 5 minutes trying to search a 1000 page pdf 2016-05-13T04:03:58 < dongs> the only PDF viewer in-browser that I'm willing to stand is the one in IE 2016-05-13T04:04:08 < dongs> anythign else gets saved to file and opened in acrobat 2016-05-13T04:04:24 < dongs> Laurenceb_: yeah, i remember when chrome PDF used to ahve search highlight typeahead 2016-05-13T04:04:30 < dongs> so when you typed 'a' to search 'asshole' in a pdf 2016-05-13T04:04:36 < dongs> it would peg cpu highlithgint every 'a' letter 2016-05-13T04:04:43 < dongs> until you could type next one 2016-05-13T04:04:46 < dongs> they fixed it now tho 2016-05-13T04:05:14 < dongs> typing more kills the highlight thread 2016-05-13T04:07:08 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-13T04:12:59 -!- englishman_ [~englishma@alcohol.dtfuhf.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-13T04:13:18 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T04:25:23 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 2016-05-13T04:25:48 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 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I remember this being alive when I was 8 I think. Haha 2016-05-13T05:53:27 < dongs> 11:39 -!- Bitters [184cdf2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.76.223.43] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-13T05:53:30 < dongs> lol 2016-05-13T06:00:08 < dongs> http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/04/20/hijab-day-backfires-at-elite-paris-university-condemned-as-insult-to-women/ 2016-05-13T06:04:12 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T06:04:26 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T06:05:00 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T06:05:27 -!- aandrew [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T06:09:23 < PeterM> an ohsix in the ##stm32 window in irc can really ruin your day 2016-05-13T06:13:13 < ReadError> why cant we all get along ! 2016-05-13T06:13:51 < dongs> same reason innovation chats have died in here 2016-05-13T06:13:55 < dongs> too many assburgers and cloners 2016-05-13T06:13:58 < PeterM> i dunno what you're blogging about 2016-05-13T06:14:58 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T06:14:59 < ReadError> ohsix hmm looks like its just a basic timer 2016-05-13T06:15:26 < ReadError> cant see anything special about them anyways 2016-05-13T06:15:29 -!- aandrew [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T06:15:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T06:15:48 -!- aandrew is now known as Guest41557 2016-05-13T06:16:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T06:17:37 < ReadError> see anything odd they are doing? 2016-05-13T06:18:45 < dongs> i see odd chats 2016-05-13T06:20:22 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T06:20:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-13T06:21:04 < emeb_mac> 6 & 7 are "basic" so they don't have as many features as the others. 2016-05-13T06:21:57 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T06:22:41 < emeb_mac> np 2016-05-13T06:23:02 < emeb_mac> grab yourself a copy of the 303 ref manual - it has all the details like that 2016-05-13T06:28:31 < scrts> sup lads? 2016-05-13T06:28:58 < scrts> did dongs make zano fly eventualy? 2016-05-13T06:36:44 < dongs> yes 2016-05-13T06:45:21 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-13T06:45:44 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T06:45:56 < dongs> innovating 2016-05-13T06:50:01 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/tBzmFJe.gifv 2016-05-13T06:55:43 < upgrdman> dongs, https://i.imgur.com/lfFDjAV.gifv 2016-05-13T06:56:48 < dongs> jesus so fucking old 2016-05-13T06:56:57 < dongs> is reddit just getting news from 24 hours ago 2016-05-13T06:57:08 < dongs> i think its actually more like 48h by now 2016-05-13T07:00:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T07:00:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-13T07:00:53 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-13T07:06:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T07:06:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-13T07:06:34 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-13T07:15:39 < ds2> machine a custom plate for the clamp 2016-05-13T07:19:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T07:23:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T07:24:22 < Rob235> how much does it cost to power a computer that's on 24 hours a day vs being asleep when idle? an extra $5 a month? 2016-05-13T07:27:53 < Rob235> I might have to get one of those 2016-05-13T07:47:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T07:53:41 -!- kelthuz is now known as gjm 2016-05-13T07:54:01 -!- Guest41557 [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T07:54:18 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-13T07:54:19 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T08:01:12 -!- aandrew [foobar@162.219.0.35] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:01:35 -!- aandrew is now known as Guest47644 2016-05-13T08:02:10 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:03:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:06:13 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:26:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:a0df:8ac3:d696:c198] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:26:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-96ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:35:36 -!- fada [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:41:46 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/y3car5u.jpg ta da 2016-05-13T08:42:41 < dongs> does that say CHARGERY POWER 2016-05-13T08:43:48 < PeterM> lol 2016-05-13T08:43:52 < PeterM> noice 2016-05-13T08:44:25 < PeterM> is a pitty bsm hardware is attached to the interface 2016-05-13T08:45:00 < dongs> naw. i could cut a hole in that useless gast tank 2016-05-13T08:45:04 < dongs> and mount it on the front 2016-05-13T08:45:16 < PeterM> means if you want it up front though you gotta run liek 5000 cables to it 2016-05-13T08:45:17 < dongs> and run the management wires=+shit into the pack below 2016-05-13T08:45:45 < dongs> if i mount it into gas tank then its almost directly above wires 2016-05-13T08:45:46 < dongs> so should be OK 2016-05-13T08:45:50 < dongs> er directly above cells 2016-05-13T08:45:56 < PeterM> fair nuff 2016-05-13T08:46:04 < dongs> i dono about those wires tho 2016-05-13T08:46:11 < dongs> current sensor sits iniline right?? 2016-05-13T08:46:13 < dongs> that looks awfully thin 2016-05-13T08:46:26 < dongs> the trash coming out of SLAs is like ~10mm diameter wire 2016-05-13T08:46:54 < PeterM> yeah, does look a bit thin 2016-05-13T08:47:05 < PeterM> but should be OK 2016-05-13T08:47:14 < dongs> what AWG should I wire this shit with? 2016-05-13T08:48:26 < dongs> maybe: 4 2016-05-13T08:48:32 < dongs> or is that too much 2016-05-13T08:49:20 < PeterM> id suggest 3/4 awg 2016-05-13T08:49:27 < PeterM> 25mm2~ 2016-05-13T08:49:46 < PeterM> local welder supply/fabrication supply shop should sell the stuff pretty cheap 2016-05-13T08:50:02 < PeterM> probs even some nice crimps 2016-05-13T08:50:17 < dongs> the fattest wire on that current sensor is 10AWG 2016-05-13T08:50:23 < PeterM> lol 2016-05-13T08:50:26 < dongs> :( 2016-05-13T08:50:34 < PeterM> i wodner what type of current sensor 2016-05-13T08:50:53 < PeterM> 10awg is probably fine for short run 2016-05-13T08:51:38 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T08:51:49 < dongs> hmm 2016-05-13T08:51:54 < dongs> by 3/4 you mean 3 or 4 right? 2016-05-13T08:52:44 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T08:53:35 < PeterM> yes] 2016-05-13T08:55:30 < dongs> waht sensor = i bet its got thaT ACS7wahgtever in center of that box 2016-05-13T08:56:04 < PeterM> could be, could be current shunt, could be descrete hall effect 2016-05-13T08:59:04 -!- fada [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T08:59:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-96ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T09:00:44 < dongs> dang 2016-05-13T09:00:51 < dongs> that panasonic contactor draws 400mA@12V 2016-05-13T09:00:53 < dongs> to close 2016-05-13T09:01:05 < dongs> and its normally-open 2016-05-13T09:01:15 < dongs> such waste 2016-05-13T09:02:26 < PeterM> https://www.monotaro.com/g/00003174/ 2016-05-13T09:02:36 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T09:02:47 < dongs> dat price 2016-05-13T09:03:15 < PeterM> try find it much cheaper 2016-05-13T09:05:54 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T09:06:24 < dongs> ya chinaprice for 4awg is 8.50/meter 2016-05-13T09:06:31 < dongs> 'kay 2016-05-13T09:06:38 < dongs> whatevers, not like i have time for this shit right now anyway 2016-05-13T09:06:54 < dongs> i should check hw store for those wire terminating ring thingies 2016-05-13T09:12:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:a0df:8ac3:d696:c198] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-13T09:24:32 < dongs> pumping liek crazy 2016-05-13T09:24:41 < dongs> with this https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aibo-powerfully-automatic-ejaculation-vibrator--3#/ 2016-05-13T09:26:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T09:27:02 < PeterM> Wait...will there be bluetooth in my vagina? 2016-05-13T09:27:03 < PeterM> Nope. We know that there are a lot of people who don’t like the idea of bluetooth being on while in use, so we did not make it. 2016-05-13T09:27:56 < dongs> bluetooth in my vagina? 2016-05-13T09:28:09 < PeterM> its mroe liekly than you think 2016-05-13T09:29:46 < PeterM> i guess that would be classified as crazy 2016-05-13T09:30:00 < dongs> the fuck is POF 2016-05-13T09:30:08 < dongs> some ausfag dating site? 2016-05-13T09:30:25 < PeterM> nah i think its pretty international 2016-05-13T09:30:45 < dongs> Pumpers Or Faggots 2016-05-13T09:32:23 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T09:32:55 < dongs> the only dating site i know is ashleyt madison and only cuz of that hax 2016-05-13T09:33:39 < dongs> oh and t his girl i know keeps talking to me about her ~tinder adventures~ 2016-05-13T09:34:40 < dongs> duno, pump harder 2016-05-13T09:34:51 < dongs> im working on stuff 2016-05-13T09:35:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-13T09:36:43 < dongs> i keep my amps in a rack 2016-05-13T09:36:46 < dongs> how doyou drop that shit 2016-05-13T09:38:05 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-13T09:38:13 < dongs> another apple.inc asshole bought my stuff 2016-05-13T09:38:41 < dongs> 1 infinitejew loop 2016-05-13T09:39:35 < dongs> are you looking at ohsix.jpg? 2016-05-13T09:40:02 < dongs> about 10 years ago there was a picture of this toilet/something room on irc called ohsix.jpg 2016-05-13T09:41:02 < dongs> and path to it was filled with empty mt.dew bottles and random garbage 2016-05-13T09:41:36 < dongs> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1046/539756376_bf2727193a.jpg something like this but more trash around 2016-05-13T09:50:04 < PeterM> many power resistors 2016-05-13T09:52:47 < dongs> painted feerit, no? 2016-05-13T09:53:05 < dongs> audiophile corez 2016-05-13T09:53:33 < PeterM> the ferrite is almost always the shiny dark grey, but they are colour coded 2016-05-13T09:53:46 < PeterM> but the code depends on manufacturer 2016-05-13T09:55:50 < PeterM> crt how big is this amp? 300W? 2016-05-13T10:02:50 < dongs> crt, i've got a EMX512SC for mobile gigz 2016-05-13T10:03:17 < PeterM> Power is plentiful, ranging from 3200 watts from the P7000S to 1300 watts from the P2500S in 4 ohms bridged mode. 2016-05-13T10:03:21 < PeterM> yeah fuck off 2016-05-13T10:03:43 < dongs> lol 3200 watts 2016-05-13T10:03:46 < dongs> pmpo right 2016-05-13T10:03:53 < PeterM> pretty much 2016-05-13T10:03:55 < dongs> or some other pumper metric that isnt actually valid 2016-05-13T10:04:27 < PeterM> i think it could do maybe 500w without clipping 2016-05-13T10:04:46 < PeterM> 500w sine 2016-05-13T10:06:07 < PeterM> dongs 2016-05-13T10:06:10 < PeterM> why is this a thin 2016-05-13T10:06:11 < PeterM> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/buttmilk.gif 2016-05-13T10:06:19 < dongs> lol japs 2016-05-13T10:06:34 < dongs> japs love their enemas 2016-05-13T10:07:14 < mitrax_> ahahaha 2016-05-13T10:15:53 < PeterM> is the output mains isolated? 2016-05-13T10:20:02 < PeterM> yeah, unelss the box is huge i doubt its really 4kw 2016-05-13T10:20:14 < dongs> PeterM: BOOT cap should be closer to boot pin or sw pin? 2016-05-13T10:21:17 < dongs> k evalboard has it closer to sw 2016-05-13T10:21:37 < PeterM> doesnt matter 2016-05-13T10:21:46 < PeterM> either is jsut as important 2016-05-13T10:21:47 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:24:18 < PeterM> is that for the switcher 2016-05-13T10:24:29 < PeterM> i assume it is because you dont fet driver 2016-05-13T10:24:34 < dongs> ya 2016-05-13T10:26:08 < PeterM> and a hueg fan? 2016-05-13T10:26:50 < PeterM> gonna need em 2016-05-13T10:27:54 < PeterM> tbh you jsut use a few bar heaters in parallel or electric stove elements in parallel if you want a several kw load 2016-05-13T10:28:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.41] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:29:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T10:30:01 < PeterM> but yeah, i doube that yamahaha amp could do even 3.2kw 2016-05-13T10:30:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:30:30 < PeterM> the txfmr is way too small 2016-05-13T10:30:46 < PeterM> but not knowing the material cant comment 2016-05-13T10:31:00 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-13T10:35:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-13T10:36:00 < PeterM> it doesnt even have pfc 2016-05-13T10:36:09 < PeterM> or if it does its suepr shitty 2016-05-13T10:38:01 < ReadError> gday 2016-05-13T10:38:16 < ReadError> how can I make openocd+jlink assert NRST low 2016-05-13T10:38:16 < PeterM> gday 2016-05-13T10:38:27 < ReadError> doesnt seem to want to pull it down 2016-05-13T10:39:46 < dongs> the problem is 2016-05-13T10:39:52 < dongs> why hte fuck are you using jlink wiht openaids????????????????????? 2016-05-13T10:39:57 < dongs> just use jlinkgdbserver 2016-05-13T10:40:11 < metRo_> ohsix: I'll check it :) 2016-05-13T10:47:45 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:49:59 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T10:50:32 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:53:52 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-13T10:54:25 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:55:27 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T10:57:26 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T10:59:01 < Ecco> hey 2016-05-13T10:59:15 < Ecco> Crap, my altium PCB view is in black and white 2016-05-13T10:59:58 < dongs> thatsa waht you get for piracy 2016-05-13T11:00:01 < dongs> also hit 'l' and see 2016-05-13T11:00:25 < Ecco> Oh I clicked the "clear" button in the bottom right and it all came back 2016-05-13T11:00:30 < Ecco> no idea what was going on 2016-05-13T11:04:03 -!- mitrax_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T11:05:36 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:06:56 < Ecco> Is there a way to move a component in the schematics while keeping the wires connected? 2016-05-13T11:08:26 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:09:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:09:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-13T11:09:42 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-13T11:17:35 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T11:27:07 < Cicero-MF> Ecco, its been a few months since I was on Altium, but try holding ctrl whilst moving it 2016-05-13T11:27:18 < dongs> Ecco: don't. 2016-05-13T11:27:18 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:27:41 < ReadError> it never works 2016-05-13T11:27:47 < ReadError> i just delete the traces and move 2016-05-13T11:27:56 < ReadError> or move and drag the traces back 2016-05-13T11:28:06 < dongs> this is schematic but same shit 2016-05-13T11:28:14 < dongs> there's no guarantee it won't cross random wires together 2016-05-13T11:28:18 < ReadError> oh rite 2016-05-13T11:28:19 < dongs> so its largely useless 2016-05-13T11:28:30 < dongs> the only possible use is maybe extend wires if you drag a part in one direction or something 2016-05-13T11:28:38 < ReadError> how do I turn off the auto prompt for repouring polygons 2016-05-13T11:28:41 < dongs> and have nothing conneted on the other 3 sides (yet) 2016-05-13T11:28:44 < ReadError> i know you can make it auto do it 2016-05-13T11:28:51 < Cicero-MF> it can be useful, you just need to select the wires correctly so it moves properly 2016-05-13T11:28:56 < ReadError> but i dont need a fucking popup each time 2016-05-13T11:30:05 < Cicero-MF> *shift select I mean 2016-05-13T11:33:18 < dongs> motherFUCKER 2016-05-13T11:33:22 < dongs> you know whats even more annoying 2016-05-13T11:33:23 < dongs> lock some parts 2016-05-13T11:33:31 < dongs> then select them and drag 2016-05-13T11:33:36 < dongs> sleection contains locked components ok? 2016-05-13T11:33:44 < dongs> YES OK BUT WHY THE FEUCK ARE YOU DRAGGING THEM YOU PIECE OF SHIT 2016-05-13T11:33:47 < dongs> im sure there' sa pref to turn it off 2016-05-13T11:34:17 < dongs> probly 'protect locked objects' 2016-05-13T11:34:19 < dongs> lets see 2016-05-13T11:34:28 < dongs> nup. 2016-05-13T11:39:42 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-13T11:40:22 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:46:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d41023.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:49:24 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d41023.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-13T11:52:24 < jadew> any ideas on the dielectric thickness for the seeedstudio pcb service on 4 layer boards? 2016-05-13T11:53:47 < jadew> yeah, I have it, but there are plenty of impedance calculators out there :) 2016-05-13T11:56:06 < jadew> this is all they say: Dielectric Separation thickness 0.075 - 5.0 2016-05-13T11:56:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-13T11:56:31 < jadew> that's in mm btw and I don't even know how they can do 5mm dielectric thickness on a 2 mm thick board 2016-05-13T11:57:19 < jadew> they don't 2016-05-13T11:57:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T11:59:34 < dongs> its a range 2016-05-13T11:59:52 < jadew> dongs yeah, but I was expecting specific values for 4 layers 2016-05-13T12:00:08 < jadew> like top and bottom 0.20, middle 0.6 2016-05-13T12:00:20 < dongs> thats in stackup 2016-05-13T12:01:15 < jpa-> i have some seeed fusion pcb 4-layer boards that i could measure :P 2016-05-13T12:01:28 < jadew> dongs, it's not specified anywhere 2016-05-13T12:01:34 < jadew> jpa-, heh 2016-05-13T12:01:52 < jadew> what I'm worried about is that it may not be fixed (they may use different fabs) 2016-05-13T12:02:01 < jpa-> very much possible 2016-05-13T12:02:10 < dongs> race to the bottom 2016-05-13T12:02:12 < dongs> lowest bidder 2016-05-13T12:03:02 < dongs> http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10536&sid=d83c5b2812b153df659682f8c93ffdd4&mode=view 2016-05-13T12:03:05 < dongs> recent shitstudio pics 2016-05-13T12:03:07 < dongs> just as awful as usual 2016-05-13T12:03:16 < dongs> not recent 2016-05-13T12:03:17 < dongs> 2013 2016-05-13T12:03:18 < dongs> wahjtever 2016-05-13T12:03:19 < dongs> same trash 2016-05-13T12:04:14 < dongs> jadew: http://www.laidukas.lt/blog/?p=429 some pole measured on a pcb 2016-05-13T12:04:39 < jadew> great 2016-05-13T12:04:55 < jadew> but still, unreliable because of what I said earlier 2016-05-13T12:05:16 < jadew> if they use different fabs one run could be ok, the next could yield 40 Ohm impedance instead of 50 2016-05-13T12:05:32 < jpa-> "unreliable" is the word for seeed anyway ;) 2016-05-13T12:05:34 < dongs> > expecting quality/repeatability/reliability 2016-05-13T12:05:36 < dongs> > seedstudio 2016-05-13T12:05:42 < jadew> hehe 2016-05-13T12:05:51 < dongs> like, if you want guarnateed shit you can buy pcbs from me 2016-05-13T12:05:56 < dongs> but then they wont be $10/10 2016-05-13T12:06:03 < jadew> trying to do it cheap, $110 for 10 PCBs is already a lot 2016-05-13T12:06:07 < dongs> lole. 2016-05-13T12:06:16 < dongs> i guess you wouldn't like my $250+for 10 4L protos 2016-05-13T12:06:30 < dongs> but then production m^2 is also ~same price. 2016-05-13T12:06:32 < ReadError> how big ? 2016-05-13T12:06:35 < PeterM> dependso n the size of boards and specs 2016-05-13T12:06:38 < jadew> how big? 2016-05-13T12:07:00 < dongs> ReadError: doesnt matter, initial cost is dumb on high layers, size doenst matter that much 2016-05-13T12:07:06 < ReadError> dongs that site is ABLomas's buddy 2016-05-13T12:07:11 < dongs> probly 2016-05-13T12:07:18 < ReadError> i sold him stuff before 2016-05-13T12:07:18 < dongs> they're all buddies in there 2016-05-13T12:07:20 < dongs> o 2016-05-13T12:07:27 < dongs> oh 2016-05-13T12:07:30 < dongs> that name does soudn famiilar 2016-05-13T12:07:31 < ReadError> http://www.laidukas.lt/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Mini-Quad.jpg 2016-05-13T12:07:33 < ReadError> my frame 2016-05-13T12:07:43 < dongs> thats a pink naze in there 2016-05-13T12:07:56 < ReadError> wtf is up with this afro ESC CC3D 2016-05-13T12:08:04 < zyp> very kawaii 2016-05-13T12:08:54 < dongs> more like very kowai 2016-05-13T12:12:29 < eft> i thought that was a load of bread on top of the quad 2016-05-13T12:13:08 < jadew> dongs, in this picture you can count 80 um on one side and 70 um on the other: http://www.laidukas.lt/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/visas-ilgis.jpg 2016-05-13T12:13:21 < zyp> robot bread delivery 2016-05-13T12:13:27 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/k7nN2p7v/20160512_090808_HDR.jpg 2016-05-13T12:13:30 < ReadError> seen this yesterday 2016-05-13T12:13:37 < ReadError> quite possibly the most disgusting board ive seen 2016-05-13T12:13:47 < ReadError> look at the drill hits at the top 2016-05-13T12:14:12 < eft> :D 2016-05-13T12:14:23 < zyp> nice 2016-05-13T12:15:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T12:15:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-13T12:15:30 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngymvyynrhwkhfqj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-13T12:15:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-13T12:17:14 < jadew> ok, so it looks like for 4 layers the trace width I need would be lower than their minimum trace width 2016-05-13T12:19:30 < zyp> which/who? 2016-05-13T12:19:46 < jadew> seeedstudio 2016-05-13T12:19:57 < zyp> what's their spec? 2016-05-13T12:20:03 < jadew> 0.15 mm minimum 2016-05-13T12:20:23 < zyp> so 6/6 rules? 2016-05-13T12:20:30 < jadew> and with 80 um dielectric you need 1.3 mm trace width for 50 Ohm 2016-05-13T12:20:39 < zyp> what are you doing that needs less? 2016-05-13T12:20:46 < jadew> RF 2016-05-13T12:21:03 < zyp> oh, for impedance matching 2016-05-13T12:21:07 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-13T12:21:38 < zyp> how do you end up need a thinner trace width? 2016-05-13T12:22:26 < jadew> checked the photos that guy did and it looks like their dielectric thickness between top layers is 80 um 2016-05-13T12:22:47 < jadew> 80 um & FR-4 = 1.3mm microstrip width for 50 Ohm impedance 2016-05-13T12:22:57 < zyp> yes? 2016-05-13T12:23:03 < jadew> sorry, 0.13 2016-05-13T12:23:19 < zyp> haha, ok 2016-05-13T12:23:40 < zyp> what freq? 2016-05-13T12:23:52 < jadew> 6 GHz 2016-05-13T12:24:26 < jadew> it's already doing bad in more tolerant configurations 2016-05-13T12:25:06 < jadew> considering how that dielectric thickness varies, I don't think it would perform well even if they could do 0.13 mm 2016-05-13T12:25:39 < zyp> yeah 2016-05-13T12:25:48 < zyp> eh, it's seeed 2016-05-13T12:26:00 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-13T12:26:18 < zyp> if you're that cheap, just go with 0.15 2016-05-13T12:27:26 < jadew> I could I guess, the mismatch is not that big: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/Dgi1R.png 2016-05-13T12:27:37 < zyp> yeah, I just played with the numbers myself 2016-05-13T12:27:40 < jadew> but that doesn't take into account the dielectric thickness variation 2016-05-13T12:27:54 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-13T12:28:24 < zyp> 10um variation in the dielectric thickness would cause a difference of somewhere between 3-4ohms 2016-05-13T12:28:52 < zyp> 0.15 instead of 0.13 at 80um thickness is only an offset of around 2.5ohms 2016-05-13T12:28:56 < jadew> seems to vary up to 20 um 2016-05-13T12:29:14 < jadew> I counted 60 um on one of the pictures 2016-05-13T12:29:27 < zyp> okay 2016-05-13T12:29:36 < zyp> so worst case you're looking at around 40ohm impedance 2016-05-13T12:29:42 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-13T12:30:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T12:30:20 < zyp> doesn't sound too bad if you're too cheap for anything better than seeed :p 2016-05-13T12:30:51 < jadew> hehe, yeah 2016-05-13T12:31:54 < zyp> if you make the trace 0.15mm they'll probably fuck up and etch it a bit thinner as well, so it'll fix itself :D 2016-05-13T12:32:18 < jadew> lol, yeah 2016-05-13T12:32:41 < jadew> I may get better results with two layers tho, but I have to cut the ground plane a bit under an IC 2016-05-13T12:33:12 < jadew> like, under the RF input pins 2016-05-13T12:33:33 < zyp> haha 2016-05-13T12:34:01 < jadew> might not be that big of a problem if I do it right 2016-05-13T12:34:07 < zyp> what are you making anyway? a fuckin radar? 2016-05-13T12:34:35 < jadew> can't tell yet 2016-05-13T12:35:01 < zyp> oh, so a super sekrit radar 2016-05-13T12:35:15 < jadew> yes :P 2016-05-13T12:39:24 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T12:41:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.169] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T12:45:03 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T12:49:20 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-05-13T12:53:11 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T13:09:08 < zyp> yes 2016-05-13T13:09:29 < zyp> hmm 2016-05-13T13:09:48 < zyp> it clears bit 31 in s0, which is some kind of special register 2016-05-13T13:10:09 < zyp> is this cortex-m? 2016-05-13T13:10:45 < zyp> oh, wait, s0 is one of the float registers 2016-05-13T13:10:48 < zyp> single precision 0 2016-05-13T13:11:14 < zyp> looks like fabs() 2016-05-13T13:11:25 < zyp> since bit 31 is sign bit 2016-05-13T13:11:33 < zyp> forcing it to 0 forces the number to positive 2016-05-13T13:11:34 < zyp> yes 2016-05-13T13:11:50 < zyp> I was thinking about plain mrs/msr first, which moves to special registers 2016-05-13T13:12:22 < zyp> on arm 2016-05-13T13:13:16 < zyp> special registers are shit like PSR 2016-05-13T13:13:28 < zyp> mrs r0, ipsr 2016-05-13T13:13:40 < zyp> will give you the current interrupt handler number in r0 2016-05-13T13:14:46 < zyp> they are special registers, not memory mapped 2016-05-13T13:15:21 < dongs> autism6? 2016-05-13T13:16:21 < zyp> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dui0553a/CHDBIBGJ.html <- the ones past r15 are special registers and must be read/written with msr/mrs 2016-05-13T13:16:24 < zyp> dongs, yes 2016-05-13T13:17:03 < zyp> ohsix, the same goes for msp and psp, when not accessed through the sp alias 2016-05-13T13:18:10 < zyp> dongs, why did you ignore him anyway? 2016-05-13T13:18:28 < dongs> zyp, too much autism 2016-05-13T13:18:35 < zyp> doesn't seem to me like the most useless person here 2016-05-13T13:18:41 < dongs> just non-stop spew of useless shit 2016-05-13T13:19:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T13:20:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T13:22:03 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T13:23:47 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TcvYbcHK/IMG_1425.JPG 2016-05-13T13:24:00 < ReadError> so i put these in the ultrasonic cleaner 2016-05-13T13:24:07 < ReadError> and the solder came out all fucky 2016-05-13T13:24:24 < ReadError> it looks like its 'wet' paste still visually 2016-05-13T13:25:25 < PeterM> i assume leaded? 2016-05-13T13:25:29 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-13T13:25:41 < ReadError> i got some different cleaner coming 2016-05-13T13:25:42 < PeterM> ya probably some nasty ass cleaner 2016-05-13T13:25:59 < ReadError> http://www.sra-solder.com/superior-syberkleen-2000-circuit-board-cleaner 2016-05-13T13:26:03 < ReadError> thats what i ordered 2016-05-13T13:26:28 < ReadError> http://www.sra-solder.com/12g-sachets-of-rapidex-ultrasonic-cleaner-detergent-10-pk 2016-05-13T13:26:34 < ReadError> thats what i used 2016-05-13T13:27:08 < ReadError> they are a different model/mfg heh 2016-05-13T13:27:12 < ReadError> close spec wise 2016-05-13T13:27:16 < ReadError> bit slower 2016-05-13T13:27:35 < ReadError> PeterM what where those good ones that are drop in replacement you mentioned? 2016-05-13T13:28:02 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-13T13:28:07 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T13:28:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-13T13:40:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T13:46:36 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T13:50:28 < PeterM> IRFS7534-7PPBF-ND 2016-05-13T13:50:38 < PeterM> >3006 2016-05-13T13:55:46 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T13:58:04 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T13:58:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T14:00:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T14:14:02 < qyx> 40Wp PV panel from gwl-power here, let's see the awesome quality 2016-05-13T14:14:32 < jadew> ohsix, what's that? 2016-05-13T14:15:28 < jadew> nice 2016-05-13T14:15:36 < qyx> ohsix: http://www.ev-power.eu/Solar-Panels/Solar-panel-GWL-Sunny-Poly-40-Wp-36-cells-MPPT-18V.html 2016-05-13T14:16:21 < jadew> I never looked into solar power, but that's cheap, right? 2016-05-13T14:22:40 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/ZmdOIsj.jpg 2016-05-13T14:23:46 < qyx> jadew: quite cheap, the 250 and 270Wp ones are even cheaper compared to other manufacturers 2016-05-13T14:33:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T14:36:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T14:46:22 < tecdroid> that's not really funny, Laurenceb 2016-05-13T14:53:04 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/ZzdNG1.jpg 2016-05-13T14:53:06 < ReadError> er 2016-05-13T14:53:09 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/eqNYHZ3.png 2016-05-13T15:01:34 < Laurenceb_> you lack a sense of humour 2016-05-13T15:02:45 < Rob235> mornin 2016-05-13T15:02:58 < PeterM> have you considered the volume of loils to links posted by you is far below the average? 2016-05-13T15:03:03 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T15:03:38 < Laurenceb_> volume of lolis? 2016-05-13T15:03:44 < Laurenceb_> take a seat over there 2016-05-13T15:08:07 < ReadError> PeterM thats pretty much the same FET as in the BOM 2016-05-13T15:08:15 < ReadError> 7530 vs 7534 2016-05-13T15:13:55 < PeterM> must have changed the bom sincei last looked 2016-05-13T15:14:51 < PeterM> used to have the 3006 inth e bom 2016-05-13T15:15:15 < PeterM> http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irfs3006-7ppbf.pdf 2016-05-13T15:16:51 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T15:17:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T15:18:02 < ReadError> thats what the chinamen sent me instead of the 7530 :x 2016-05-13T15:18:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-13T15:20:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T15:22:48 < PeterM> hahahaha 2016-05-13T15:23:09 < PeterM> id have got them from DK 2016-05-13T15:23:26 < PeterM> that is one of hte applications where id prefer pay $$ upfront than have a fireball under my feet 2016-05-13T15:30:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T15:39:42 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T15:41:37 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/ENG3/vmware-2016-05-13-08-41-15.png 2016-05-13T15:41:53 < ReadError> free copy of adele's new album on the darknetmarkets 2016-05-13T15:42:06 < ReadError> some crazy shit on there 2016-05-13T15:43:11 < Laurenceb_> not funny ReadError 2016-05-13T15:43:19 < ReadError> i know its not funny 2016-05-13T15:43:25 < ReadError> its odd 2016-05-13T15:55:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.80] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T15:59:39 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T15:59:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T16:03:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-13T16:05:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T16:06:32 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T16:10:04 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T16:12:13 -!- Guest47644 is now known as aandrew 2016-05-13T16:13:12 < BrainDamage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sXuHnf_lo shitpost warning 2016-05-13T16:14:29 < Cicero-MF> anyone use cloudforge and tortoise? 2016-05-13T16:15:53 < englishman> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__34247__HobbyKing_Pulse_Jet_Gasoline_Engine_34_Red_Head_34_with_Ignition_System.html 2016-05-13T16:15:55 < englishman> back in stock 2016-05-13T16:16:50 < Laurenceb_> stopped at adult baby 2016-05-13T16:22:53 < Tectu> englishman, that looks like fun 2016-05-13T16:24:10 < Tectu> englishman, I'm actually tempted to play around with that for some reason. I wonder how loud it is, dough 2016-05-13T16:24:14 < Tectu> though, lol. 2016-05-13T16:24:24 < englishman> depends 2016-05-13T16:24:29 < englishman> on the neighbours 2016-05-13T16:24:54 < englishman> are they typically annoyed by constant automatic rifle fire? 2016-05-13T16:25:02 < englishman> if so, maybe this is not the toy for you 2016-05-13T16:26:04 < BrainDamage> a pulsejet engine works literally by having the fuel explode in the combustion chamber, and you can't use a muffler since proper discharge is what transfers momentum for thrust 2016-05-13T16:26:34 < Tectu> Jep, I know the sound of some "bigger" ones. I was wondering whether this small one would be a bit less.... loud 2016-05-13T16:26:42 < englishman> its extremely patriotic, if you're a german 2016-05-13T16:27:39 < BrainDamage> you should try to fly a RC plane with a pulsejet engine towards england 2016-05-13T16:28:05 < Tectu> some nazi bombs used those jets, right? 2016-05-13T16:28:07 < BrainDamage> they collected them a lot half a decade ago 2016-05-13T16:28:40 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb#/media/File:V1_Launcher_IWM_Duxford.JPG 2016-05-13T16:28:54 < englishman> yes Tectu and it had a signature sound 2016-05-13T16:29:17 < englishman> they controlled target by aiming and adjusting fuel so it fell out of the sky at the right place 2016-05-13T16:29:19 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdlBc__3kg 2016-05-13T16:29:28 < Tectu> well that looks just rediculous 2016-05-13T16:30:06 < englishman> they needed an immense amount of airspeed to keep flying due to how their jets worked, so they made the largest slingshots ever created by man to heave these bitches into the sky 2016-05-13T16:30:25 < englishman> then attached DJI NAZA to ensure good altitude hold and stability in flight 2016-05-13T16:31:01 < BrainDamage> their stabilization mechanism was pretty primitive 2016-05-13T16:31:05 -!- rel [~rel@zux221-046-129.adsl.green.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T16:31:29 < Tectu> how exactly were those things guided? 2016-05-13T16:31:38 < BrainDamage> pilots could topple them by nudging the wings 2016-05-13T16:32:04 < englishman> iirc simple pendulum for attitude hold 2016-05-13T16:32:09 < BrainDamage> mechanical timer to cut fuel lines and disconnect the jet engine 2016-05-13T16:32:13 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb#Guidance_system 2016-05-13T16:33:02 < englishman> did that really happen BrainDamage jeez 2016-05-13T16:33:12 < englishman> touching a flying drone bomb with your wings in flight 2016-05-13T16:33:13 < Tectu> video @ 02:30... I never would understood how one managed to hit a fast moving object over such a huge distance with those FLAKs 2016-05-13T16:33:47 < BrainDamage> englishman: yes, it was a pretty ballsy maneuver, they had to dive in to match the bomb's speed 2016-05-13T16:34:12 < BrainDamage> Operation Totter 2016-05-13T16:34:38 < Tectu> holy sit that's impressive 2016-05-13T16:35:23 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T16:35:33 < englishman> speaking of ballsy germans and rockets, saw one of these in a museum last year http://i.imgur.com/QwQ3hSZ.jpg 2016-05-13T16:36:35 < dongs> sup tectu any new kawaii chats 2016-05-13T16:37:06 < Tectu> Hi dongs. You alright? 2016-05-13T16:37:12 < dongs> seems ok 2016-05-13T16:37:32 < Tectu> currently evaluation DipTrace... can't see KiCAD no more. 2016-05-13T16:37:44 < dongs> good call 2016-05-13T16:37:56 < dongs> my pal just paid for 3.0 upgrade few weeks ago 2016-05-13T16:38:04 < dongs> so looks like i have latest version of that for a while 2016-05-13T16:38:06 < zyp> Tectu, imagine getting used to altium 2016-05-13T16:38:08 < zyp> :p 2016-05-13T16:38:31 < dongs> zyp, Tectu doesnt sell enough uGFX licenses to afford altiuum 2016-05-13T16:38:36 < zyp> haha 2016-05-13T16:38:42 < Tectu> dongs, yeah I was wondering... I recall that you used diptrace a lot but you switched to altium, right? But so far I am very happy with diptrace. For some reason I am a lot quicker at getting things done than with KiCAD 2016-05-13T16:39:04 < zyp> I learned a ton of new small tricks in altium recently 2016-05-13T16:39:18 < dongs> Tectu: well noshit, drawing on a napkin is probably quicker than kikecad, yes diptrace has its place, its great/simple for a lot of things 2016-05-13T16:39:27 < Tectu> well I don't earn my money by doing PCBs. Those are usually one-off things or personal projects. Therefore I can't afford altium, that's correct ;) 2016-05-13T16:39:34 < zyp> today I learned that ctrl-d to hide shit (vias) is super useful 2016-05-13T16:39:38 < dongs> zyp, anything worhwhile? 2016-05-13T16:39:51 < dongs> ah, i knew that screen, didnt know that shortcut 2016-05-13T16:39:54 < Tectu> dongs, so you are still recommending diptrace? (if altium is no option) 2016-05-13T16:39:58 < dongs> i use it to hide stuff occsioanlly 2016-05-13T16:40:01 < dongs> Tectu: yes absolutely 2016-05-13T16:40:07 < Tectu> dongs, great. Thanks! 2016-05-13T16:40:15 < Tectu> dongs, I was actually worried once I heard that you switched to alitum :P 2016-05-13T16:40:18 < dongs> eagle is non-starter, kikecad is a waste of time, gEDA is... well just ask emeb 2016-05-13T16:40:21 < zyp> had to move a huge part of this 8L board 2mm leftwards to make more room for a board cutout 2016-05-13T16:40:24 < Tectu> dongs, anyway, still 25 days of evaluation to go ;) 2016-05-13T16:40:36 < dongs> even emeb switched to diptrace 2016-05-13T16:40:45 < Tectu> zyp, dongs, may I ask what you guys have to pay for alitum? 2016-05-13T16:40:49 < zyp> so I started moving the 3 important layers 2016-05-13T16:41:10 < zyp> and then I needed to move shit on other layers too, but it was kinda hard to select just that shit and not the vias 2016-05-13T16:41:28 < zyp> until I figured I could just hide everything I didn't want to move 2016-05-13T16:41:44 < dongs> zyp, yeah. same goes w/layers, only shown layers get seleced 2016-05-13T16:41:52 < zyp> Tectu, idk, I don't pay out of my pocket 2016-05-13T16:41:53 < dongs> if you move components but wanna keep silk/labels, just hide the silk layers. 2016-05-13T16:42:05 < dongs> zyp freeloads off oldjob 2016-05-13T16:42:10 < Tectu> hah 2016-05-13T16:42:25 < zyp> not at newjob, newjob also got altium licences :p 2016-05-13T16:42:31 < dongs> cool 2016-05-13T16:42:39 < zyp> just using oldjob's license for hobby stuff at home 2016-05-13T16:42:43 < Tectu> anyway. diptrace "ultimate" license is like 1'400 USD one off. sounds pretty fair to me. especially as it includes all component libraries. 2016-05-13T16:42:51 < Tectu> dongs, what can you say about diptrace libs? 2016-05-13T16:43:00 < dongs> tectu, that i dont use them 2016-05-13T16:43:03 < zyp> uh, $1400 is getting close to altium territory 2016-05-13T16:43:04 < dongs> its easy enough to draw your own shit 2016-05-13T16:43:10 < dongs> zyp * 7 around 2016-05-13T16:43:19 < dongs> so not really 2016-05-13T16:43:25 < zyp> I think the initial subscription at oldjob was something like 20k-something NOK 2016-05-13T16:43:27 < PeterM> my sub costs 1800 au, so around 1300 us 2016-05-13T16:43:28 < zyp> for first year 2016-05-13T16:43:34 < Tectu> zyp, hell no. alitum for < 8'000 seems nearly impossible 2016-05-13T16:43:55 < Tectu> dongs, but you didn't not-use them because they were shit or something, right? 2016-05-13T16:44:06 < dongs> Tectu: just because i would rather draw my own 2016-05-13T16:44:22 < Tectu> also altium is like yearly subscription. diptrace is one-off for each major version 2016-05-13T16:44:26 < Tectu> dongs, ok :) 2016-05-13T16:44:34 < dongs> upgrade to 3.x for dicktrace was like $300 or someshit 2016-05-13T16:44:34 < zyp> Tectu, you don't have to subscribe 2016-05-13T16:45:01 < zyp> oldjob let subscription lapse after they fired all the HW guys, licence is still valid for AD15 2016-05-13T16:45:22 < zyp> you just don't get updates and vault access, I believe 2016-05-13T16:45:26 < zyp> and fuck that anyway 2016-05-13T16:45:39 < dongs> yeah i've used vcault like once 2016-05-13T16:45:43 < dongs> to pullout a xilinx footprint 2016-05-13T16:45:50 < dongs> cuz i wasnt gonna draw 9000BGA 2016-05-13T16:46:03 < Tectu> zyp, but the initial price still is WAY above 1'400 USD 2016-05-13T16:46:06 < PeterM> i use it for footprints for mad pincount micros and shit 2016-05-13T16:46:12 < PeterM> but thats about it 2016-05-13T16:46:12 < englishman> couldnt you equally steal it from circuitbaker and export 2016-05-13T16:46:18 < Tectu> englishman, :D 2016-05-13T16:46:32 < dongs> circuitbaker doesnt have anything beyond arduino in DIP 2016-05-13T16:46:34 < dongs> for footprints 2016-05-13T16:46:36 < zyp> dongs, I think that's what I did on the waveshare fpga extension board I made 2016-05-13T16:46:37 < englishman> ordered pulsejet 2016-05-13T16:46:55 < zyp> I think I grabbed symbol from vault and made a new bga256 footprint 2016-05-13T16:47:02 < zyp> because old had stupid silk or something 2016-05-13T16:47:11 < PeterM> englishman, i hope the build quality of oyurs is better than my mates 2016-05-13T16:47:30 < zyp> unlikely, it's hobbyking cheapshit 2016-05-13T16:47:33 < PeterM> his cracked after about 10 mins of runtime 2016-05-13T16:47:34 < englishman> yes bruce simpson got one a few years ago and whined about it 2016-05-13T16:47:39 < englishman> aww 2016-05-13T16:47:57 < englishman> it will motivate me to make a bigger one out of some spare inco 2016-05-13T16:48:01 < dongs> pulsejet wat 2016-05-13T16:48:03 < zyp> PeterM, tied down or moving? 2016-05-13T16:48:06 < PeterM> mate got his maybe 4 months ago 2016-05-13T16:48:12 < dongs> englishman: wtf are you innovating 2016-05-13T16:48:19 < PeterM> zyp on model in air 2016-05-13T16:48:19 < dongs> north-korea-bound ICBM? 2016-05-13T16:48:22 < zyp> ah, ok 2016-05-13T16:48:24 < englishman> gonna invade japan 2016-05-13T16:48:29 < englishman> steal all the used undies 2016-05-13T16:48:39 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T16:48:57 < PeterM> englishman, i approve of that statement 2016-05-13T16:49:02 < PeterM> because you said "undies" 2016-05-13T16:49:19 < englishman> shrimp status = barbie 2016-05-13T16:49:24 < Tectu> zyp, Altium Designer 14 pricing starts at $7,245 USD, including a one year subscription. 2016-05-13T16:49:33 < PeterM> 10/10 2016-05-13T16:49:38 < zyp> maybe I misremember, idk 2016-05-13T16:49:41 < Tectu> zyp, I don't assume that the newer versions will be much cheaper. so as dongs said, 7* diptrace 2016-05-13T16:50:11 < zyp> I didn't deal with the financial side of that, other HW guy did 2016-05-13T16:50:33 < dongs> they need to split off that FPGA trash STAT 2016-05-13T16:50:39 < dongs> i NEVER use it 2016-05-13T16:50:48 < dongs> and im gonna guess neither do like 95% of people using altidong 2016-05-13T16:50:52 < dongs> so why the fuck they gotta include it 2016-05-13T16:51:09 < zyp> what's even more fun is that you can buy the FPGA stuff separately 2016-05-13T16:51:21 < zyp> but you can't buy PCB stuff without FPGA stuff 2016-05-13T16:51:24 < dongs> tasking? more like fuck off already. 2016-05-13T16:51:37 < PeterM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2016-05-13T16:51:56 < Tectu> dongs, how happy is your diptrace 2.x friend with 3.x? as far as I can tell there's not really something that would make it worth a new major version 2016-05-13T16:52:32 < dongs> Tectu: i updated my license and passed it over to them since I no longer use it. so i dunno whats new other than diffpairs and some misc improvements 2016-05-13T16:52:48 < dongs> i have 2.x installed in VM to load old projects 2016-05-13T16:52:57 < dongs> but I've redrawn a number of htem in altium as well 2016-05-13T16:53:12 < zyp> dongs, other tricks I learned recently is shift+F1 with a command active 2016-05-13T16:53:57 < zyp> also, hitting L is a quick way to deal with showing/hiding layers 2016-05-13T16:53:59 < dongs> thats just help, no? 2016-05-13T16:54:04 < dongs> yeah L i knew 2016-05-13T16:54:14 < Tectu> dongs, well I'm probably ending up buying a license in a couple of days so thanks for still rooting for it 2016-05-13T16:54:21 < zyp> with a command active, shift+F1 lists all hotkeys for current command 2016-05-13T16:54:24 < dongs> Tectu: feel free to ask me or emeb stuff 2016-05-13T16:54:36 < Tectu> dongs, thanks, very appreciated 2016-05-13T16:54:43 < Tectu> emeb diptrace pro too? 2016-05-13T16:54:46 < dongs> yea 2016-05-13T16:55:08 < dongs> zyp: by active you mean on and running 2016-05-13T16:55:18 < zyp> yes 2016-05-13T16:55:21 < dongs> pl -> just cursor shiftf1 did nothing 2016-05-13T16:55:30 < dongs> but pl -> click -> more stuff 2016-05-13T16:55:40 < zyp> try plain f1 2016-05-13T16:56:11 < dongs> ohs ame shit 2016-05-13T16:56:20 < zyp> not that pl have any hotkeys 2016-05-13T16:56:29 < dongs> it does 2016-05-13T16:56:32 < dongs> 2, etc 2016-05-13T16:56:40 < zyp> here it only lists F1: Help 2016-05-13T16:56:52 < dongs> thats cuz you didnt start it 2016-05-13T16:56:54 < dongs> that was the point 2016-05-13T16:56:58 < zyp> oh, right 2016-05-13T16:56:59 < dongs> pl, and click somewhere and start dragging trace 2016-05-13T16:57:08 < zyp> yeah, right 2016-05-13T16:57:12 < dongs> doesnt list all anyway 2016-05-13T16:57:16 < dongs> there=s shift-w in there 2016-05-13T16:57:26 < dongs> but maybe thats more globla i dunno 2016-05-13T16:57:44 < dongs> oh, its listed there 2016-05-13T16:57:44 < dongs> k 2016-05-13T16:57:48 < dongs> way too stoned 2016-05-13T16:57:50 < zyp> haha 2016-05-13T16:58:12 < zyp> anyway, useful for all those "now, wtf was the key for that?" situations 2016-05-13T16:58:31 < Tectu> dongs, I have a project where I need to do some FPGA with DDR3 crap. I didn't do it until now because it would probably kill me doing that in KiCAD. Did you ever do that kind of stuff with DipTrace? I guess now with differential pairs DDR3 won't be that much of a bitch? 2016-05-13T16:58:34 < zyp> like for interactive length tuning, I still don't remember which keys adjusts what 2016-05-13T16:58:51 < Tectu> zyp, how about making yourself a cheatsheet? 2016-05-13T16:59:02 < zyp> that's what hitting F1 gives you 2016-05-13T16:59:17 < dongs> Tectu: not sure, that would be a v3 feature. track length reporting in 2.x could use a serious improvement. 2016-05-13T16:59:39 < dongs> zyp: ,.1234 or someshit 2016-05-13T16:59:43 < dongs> but yeah, thats handy 2016-05-13T16:59:44 < zyp> yes 2016-05-13T16:59:49 < dongs> i just randomly bash them until i get expected results 2016-05-13T16:59:56 < Tectu> dongs, but doing some 8 or 12 layer shit that is serious works well? 2016-05-13T17:00:03 < zyp> haha, same 2016-05-13T17:00:12 < dongs> Tectu: wouldnt go beyond 4-6l 2016-05-13T17:00:29 < Tectu> dongs, thanks 2016-05-13T17:00:40 < dongs> "hobby" and "8L" doesnt realyl go together 2016-05-13T17:00:57 < zyp> how does diptrace deal with trace conflicts? 2016-05-13T17:01:05 < dongs> it doesnt 2016-05-13T17:01:12 < zyp> does it have anything resembling push/hug/walkaround/whatever 2016-05-13T17:01:12 < dongs> no hug-n-stuff 2016-05-13T17:01:15 < dongs> nope 2016-05-13T17:01:36 < zyp> so doing dense stuff would be about as awful as doing it in eagle then, I guess 2016-05-13T17:01:40 < zyp> no loop removal either? 2016-05-13T17:02:26 < dongs> no, but dicktrace doesnt have the problem of altium where each segment is standalone 2016-05-13T17:02:33 < dongs> you can drag trace around and it keeps its start/end 2016-05-13T17:02:50 < dongs> so you can quickly adjust stuff around without having to do somethign that would need loop removal 2016-05-13T17:02:53 < zyp> like move->drag in altium? 2016-05-13T17:02:58 < dongs> no, better 2016-05-13T17:03:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-13T17:03:52 < Tectu> well, I guess coming from KiCAD DipTrace is already a shit load better anyway no matter how great alitum is 2016-05-13T17:04:12 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-13T17:04:34 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/UFvAgZW.jpg 2016-05-13T17:05:03 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T17:05:06 < zyp> aww, now I expected some pcb screenshot 2016-05-13T17:05:08 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-13T17:05:13 < dongs> haha 2016-05-13T17:05:47 < Tectu> same here 2016-05-13T17:05:48 < dongs> zyp, where do you get height-accurate coil 3d models 2016-05-13T17:05:56 < zyp> dunno 2016-05-13T17:06:09 < zyp> I actually made my first component with 3d model today :p 2016-05-13T17:06:15 < dongs> im using shitlord coils, but obv they dont provide models 2016-05-13T17:06:16 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-trrdpqgifribepqg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T17:06:24 < PeterM> 3dcontentcentral 2016-05-13T17:06:24 < Tectu> dongs, can you tell me how I can resize hierarchical sheets so I can move pins around and shit? 2016-05-13T17:06:36 < zyp> and that was just because boss asked me to include connector in step export so he could verify location in some mcad 2016-05-13T17:06:39 < PeterM> but also a shit as fuck website 2016-05-13T17:06:45 < dongs> Tectu: i thought pins assignment there was automatic 2016-05-13T17:06:58 < dongs> you drop the hierarchical module and its automatically full of pins that were marked as ports. 2016-05-13T17:06:58 < zyp> but 3d models are kinda cute 2016-05-13T17:07:16 < PeterM> 3d models are great 2016-05-13T17:07:23 < Tectu> dongs, yep, that's what I'm getting. But i'd like to change the order of the pins and move them around and stuff 2016-05-13T17:07:29 < PeterM> they let you know how close oyu can place parts for real 2016-05-13T17:07:32 < zyp> I'm going to start adding them to my own lib once I have time to actually clean up my own shit into a reusable lib 2016-05-13T17:07:53 < dongs> Tectu: not possible afaik 2016-05-13T17:08:06 < dongs> now that altidong has documentation 2016-05-13T17:08:09 < jpa-> dongs: it is possible in kicad! 2016-05-13T17:08:12 < dongs> proper height stuff is a must 2016-05-13T17:09:35 < Tectu> jpa-, yes, but Hierarchical sheets in KiCAD are a complete joke. 2016-05-13T17:10:03 < jpa-> just 90% joke, the 10% is just pain 2016-05-13T17:10:10 < zyp> oh, by the way, I saw a cute trick some other people were using to draw parallel signals in altium 2016-05-13T17:10:30 < dongs> zyp, pm? 2016-05-13T17:10:37 < dongs> and tab+ set spacing 2016-05-13T17:10:39 < karlp> Tectu: or, just don't: http://billauer.co.il/blog/2015/12/orcad-pcb-hierarchy/ 2016-05-13T17:10:55 < zyp> mark every other pin, use interactive multi routing, drop them into a row of vias, mark remaining pins, multi-routing, drop them into another offset row of vias 2016-05-13T17:11:06 < zyp> cleanest way I've seen to make a layer crossing with a parallel bus 2016-05-13T17:11:37 < zyp> assuming that part pitch doesn't fit one row of vias side by side, but fits two offset rows 2016-05-13T17:13:47 < dongs> maybe ill just get models from coilcraft 2016-05-13T17:14:01 < Tectu> karlp, nobody told you to do it the wrong way. 2016-05-13T17:15:02 < Tectu> if I have a device with a four-channel motor driver I need four times the same stuff. I won't copy-pasta the corresponding block three times and then have to manually update all of them whenever I update something in that driver circuit 2016-05-13T17:15:38 < zyp> nah, time to leave work, I guess 2016-05-13T17:16:03 < dongs> ive used hierarchical stuff in dicktrace, works fine 2016-05-13T17:17:11 < karlp> Tectu: I think the point is that sometimes/often you see hierarchical schematics that are not providing value. 2016-05-13T17:17:27 < karlp> that are just layers and layers of hierarchy with v-little on each one. 2016-05-13T17:17:48 < dongs> hm nope nothing on coilcraft 2016-05-13T17:17:52 < dongs> who else makes lots of inductirs 2016-05-13T17:17:54 < dongs> with 3d models 2016-05-13T17:18:21 -!- emeb [~ericb@68.2.68.52] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T17:18:25 < Tectu> karlp, with that I fully agree. As often the hard part is doing it right ;) 2016-05-13T17:18:43 < karlp> so, one should err on the side of "how do I do hierachy? => you don't" 2016-05-13T17:18:52 < karlp> dongs: bourns? 2016-05-13T17:18:53 < karlp> wurth? 2016-05-13T17:18:56 < karlp> murata? 2016-05-13T17:19:06 < karlp> one of them surely will. 2016-05-13T17:19:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-13T17:21:35 < Tectu> karlp, no, I'm just saying that I feel like hierarchical sheets ALWAYS make sense when you need the same component group multiple times. If you are just doing it to divide things up and putting a few components on each schematic to save you the extra work of doing a separate but proper block diagram for the documentation then you are doing it wrong 2016-05-13T17:24:36 < dongs> hm coilcrap 4030 inductor is huge 2016-05-13T17:24:41 < dongs> > 4x4mm 2016-05-13T17:24:41 < dongs> aids 2016-05-13T17:25:10 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/en/resources/3d-models 2016-05-13T17:26:00 < karlp> Tectu: I would agree with you on that yes, sure. 2016-05-13T17:27:31 < Tectu> thanks for showing that, dongs 2016-05-13T17:28:24 < dongs> oo, wurst 2016-05-13T17:28:34 < Tectu> karlp, and I agree with you that often people make a mess with hierarchical sheets :) 2016-05-13T17:28:56 < dongs> meh finding 4030 inductor is acutally hard 2016-05-13T17:29:01 < dongs> a lot of them are lowprofile 2016-05-13T17:30:34 -!- Guest68390 [~rager@54.191.201.168] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T17:38:43 < dongs> trying to draw a hexagon in tinkercad holy shit 2016-05-13T17:44:13 < ReadError> so any openocd/jlink/stlink pros? 2016-05-13T17:44:20 < ReadError> having trouble asserting nRST low 2016-05-13T17:44:34 < dongs> ReadError: i thought i told you to just use jlinkgdbserver? 2016-05-13T17:44:38 < ReadError> tried dickering with the srst_* stuff but didnt have much luck 2016-05-13T17:45:01 < ReadError> dongs nah I only have gimp jlink software, i cant even flash anything 2016-05-13T17:45:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T17:45:12 < dongs> ? 2016-05-13T17:45:23 < ReadError> JFlash Lite doesnt work on highdpi 2016-05-13T17:45:48 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T17:45:49 < dongs> ... 2016-05-13T17:45:52 < dongs> you start jlinkgdbserver 2016-05-13T17:45:58 < dongs> and connect to it from eclipse/.whateverthefuck 2016-05-13T17:46:05 < dongs> and flash/debug/wahtever 2016-05-13T17:46:06 < ReadError> well i know its possible to do in openocd 2016-05-13T17:46:10 < dongs> k gl 2016-05-13T17:46:31 < ReadError> how would i assert the reset low in jlinkgdbserver then? 2016-05-13T17:47:33 < karlp> ReadError: so... what have you tried? 2016-05-13T17:47:46 < karlp> the config rest srst_ stuff is how you tell it how it's wired 2016-05-13T17:47:46 < ReadError> srst_push_pull, srst_open_drain 2016-05-13T17:47:55 < karlp> then just "reset halt" ? 2016-05-13T17:48:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T17:50:20 < ReadError> Info : Kickstart power on JTAG-pin 19: 0xffffffff 2016-05-13T17:50:20 < ReadError> Info : Vref = 3.288 TCK = 0 TDI = 0 TDO = 0 TMS = 1 SRST = 1 TRST = 0 2016-05-13T17:50:20 < ReadError> Info : J-Link JTAG Interface ready 2016-05-13T17:50:25 < ReadError> it sees it as high 2016-05-13T17:50:32 < ReadError> theres no command for config tho 2016-05-13T17:50:53 < ReadError> cortex_m reset_config sysresetreq 2016-05-13T17:50:53 < ReadError> trst_and_srst separate srst_nogate trst_open_drain srst_open_drain connect_deassert_srst 2016-05-13T17:50:53 < ReadError> Info : J-Link V9 compiled Oct 9 2015 20:34:47 2016-05-13T17:50:59 < ReadError> hmm this could be related 2016-05-13T17:51:03 < ReadError> the connect_deassert_srst 2016-05-13T17:51:12 < ReadError> but thats not in any of my cfg files 2016-05-13T17:52:44 < ReadError> odd grepping for 'connect_deassert_srst' in the scripts dir yields nothing 2016-05-13T17:54:47 < ReadError> ahh looks like thats default behavior, need to specify connect_assert_srst 2016-05-13T17:55:11 < dongs> what garbage did you clone shittily today, readstoner 2016-05-13T17:57:04 < ReadError> nothing yet, need to fix this first 2016-05-13T17:57:12 < dongs> waht is it 2016-05-13T17:57:24 < ReadError> end goal being I can run something to let nRST go high and immediately halt 2016-05-13T17:57:36 < ReadError> before it has time to enter into the code 2016-05-13T17:57:56 < dongs> yeah, or just hold reset button 2016-05-13T17:58:09 < dongs> or just enter bootloader 2016-05-13T17:58:10 < dongs> and connect 2016-05-13T17:58:14 < dongs> also what "code"? 2016-05-13T17:58:20 < ReadError> well there is none, i did think about wiring one up though 2016-05-13T17:58:39 < ReadError> w/e code happens to be on the controller.... 2016-05-13T17:59:00 < dongs> cloner code 2016-05-13T17:59:55 < ReadError> well the long/short is, can disable read protection in the binary 2016-05-13T18:00:22 < ReadError> but something in the code is resetting the RDP byte 2016-05-13T18:00:46 < dongs> yes... BMP did that 2016-05-13T18:00:48 < dongs> like a fucking virus 2016-05-13T18:00:57 < dongs> FUCK BMP; BMP SUX; BMP IS DYING; BMP IS DEAD TO ME; BMP HIT WTC 2016-05-13T18:01:23 < zyp> :D 2016-05-13T18:02:01 < dongs> fuck ok tinkercad is aids 2016-05-13T18:02:03 < dongs> what else is tehre 2016-05-13T18:02:08 < dongs> i just want to draw a fucking cut off hexagon 2016-05-13T18:03:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:03:47 < ReadError> onshape 2016-05-13T18:05:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.100.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:06:06 < dongs> can that save as .stp??? 2016-05-13T18:06:45 < ReadError> iduno 2016-05-13T18:06:54 < zyp> freecad can do step 2016-05-13T18:07:29 < zyp> not sure how usable it is though, I've only used it to look at step files 2016-05-13T18:08:02 < dongs> alt-f4'd 2016-05-13T18:08:05 < dongs> fuck this 2016-05-13T18:08:49 < ReadError> solidworks 2016-05-13T18:10:11 < dongs> gave up 2016-05-13T18:10:17 < dongs> just gonna use a similar model 2016-05-13T18:11:10 < zyp> haha 2016-05-13T18:11:22 < dongs> onshape cant save anything 2016-05-13T18:11:27 < dongs> dickercad = absolute aids 2016-05-13T18:12:28 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T18:13:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:15:48 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1815752970/hybrid-tube-amp-for-the-raspberry-pi 2016-05-13T18:16:03 < dongs> i want to stab 2016-05-13T18:16:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:17:08 < lorenzo> lol audiophiles 2016-05-13T18:18:59 < ReadError> > sign up for online f7 seminar 2016-05-13T18:19:12 < ReadError> > st sends links where to buy the f7-disco ^.^ 2016-05-13T18:20:06 < ReadError> We are pleased to confirm your registration for our complimentary STM32F7 online course with hands-on exercises taking place from March 23rd to March 27th, 2016. 2016-05-13T18:20:08 < ReadError> uh 2016-05-13T18:23:47 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:24:37 < emeb> derp 2016-05-13T18:26:34 < jadew> amazing, crap I ordered from china, days after crap I ordered from europe, came first. 2016-05-13T18:27:10 < jadew> from wishyou-happy 2016-05-13T18:27:16 < ReadError> jadew china has been rockinass lately 2016-05-13T18:27:17 < jadew> me happy now 2016-05-13T18:27:20 < ReadError> like 1 week on epackets 2016-05-13T18:27:49 < jadew> yeah, I ordered on the 5th, they shipped on the 6th and I picked it up just now 2016-05-13T18:28:08 < jadew> it's possible the city where they ship from matters a lot 2016-05-13T18:28:14 < jadew> this guy seems to be in Hong Kong 2016-05-13T18:33:59 < jadew> btw, this is good quality: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121861107772 2016-05-13T18:34:35 < jadew> that was in one of the packages I just picked up and it's much better than what I already had 2016-05-13T18:34:43 < jadew> for one, the cable is actually coaxial cable 2016-05-13T18:35:04 < jadew> and the clips are much nicer 2016-05-13T18:35:13 < jadew> incoming photo 2016-05-13T18:39:25 < ReadError> ah yea have a few of those 2016-05-13T18:39:27 < ReadError> handy 2016-05-13T18:39:34 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/clips.jpg 2016-05-13T18:39:39 < jadew> new on the left, old on the right 2016-05-13T18:39:55 < dongs> those look like the awful garbage that came with buttpirate 2016-05-13T18:40:03 < jadew> which ones? 2016-05-13T18:40:14 < ReadError> other good investment in that category -> probemaster probes + tip assortment 2016-05-13T18:40:44 < dongs> jadew: all of them, they look shit 2016-05-13T18:40:55 < jadew> dongs, the new ones are ok 2016-05-13T18:40:58 < jadew> the old ones are indeed shit 2016-05-13T18:41:20 < jadew> ReadError, nice, was looking for some probes 2016-05-13T18:41:42 < ReadError> they arent the cheapest but the screw on accessories are very well made 2016-05-13T18:41:44 < jadew> I was going to get this: http://ro.farnell.com/keysight-technologies/34138a/test-lead-kit-digital-multimeters/dp/1440379 2016-05-13T18:41:48 < ReadError> and the probes are sharp as hell 2016-05-13T18:41:49 < jadew> but I'm not 100% sure 2016-05-13T18:43:01 < jadew> the probe master ones look nice 2016-05-13T18:43:18 < jadew> never heard of probe master before 2016-05-13T18:43:27 < dongs> ReadError: is that the shit i got for my fluke? 2016-05-13T18:43:48 < ReadError> maybe ya 2016-05-13T18:44:02 < ReadError> thats what i use them for anyways 2016-05-13T18:44:21 < mitrax> PaulFertser: is there a stable openocd version that supports the new STM32F410xx chips? (win64 binaries) 2016-05-13T18:44:25 < jadew> I also got a pair of kelvin clips, checking them out now 2016-05-13T18:44:39 < jadew> (from china) 2016-05-13T18:45:56 < jadew> all plastic + gold color, but they seem ok 2016-05-13T18:46:04 < jadew> I hate that gold finish 2016-05-13T18:46:18 < jadew> if it's not real gold... just leave it out ffs 2016-05-13T18:46:55 < jadew> I don't need that shit on my hands and I don't like my stuff to become partially golden 2016-05-13T18:50:33 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T18:51:37 < jadew> my package that was sent from Sweden that was sent on the 6th got an update today 2016-05-13T18:51:44 < jadew> it's in Sweden 2016-05-13T18:53:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T18:54:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:55:53 -!- DanteA [~DanteA@host-3-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T18:57:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T18:58:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:01:31 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:12:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T19:14:44 < lorenzo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeBJVh4z99k "you know, you don't want the cables to get detuned during transport" @ 2:00 2016-05-13T19:14:55 -!- DanteA_ [~DanteA@host-132-156-66-217.spbmts.ru] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:15:46 < jadew> lol 2016-05-13T19:15:52 < jadew> "great sale" 2016-05-13T19:16:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T19:16:05 -!- DanteA [~DanteA@host-3-157-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T19:16:55 < jadew> it's probably a joke 2016-05-13T19:18:02 < jadew> directionality lol 2016-05-13T19:18:42 < lorenzo> 6:05 lol 2016-05-13T19:19:07 < jadew> it's a joke :) 2016-05-13T19:19:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:20:56 < lorenzo> jadew: I think he's just promoting them. his website (made2hack) and the cable sale website are on the same IP 2016-05-13T19:20:59 < lorenzo> :D 2016-05-13T19:21:29 < jadew> really? 2016-05-13T19:21:44 < lorenzo> yeah I tried with ping command 2016-05-13T19:21:45 < jadew> then his site is probably a joke too 2016-05-13T19:26:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:29:11 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:31:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T19:31:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T19:35:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.80] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:53:44 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:53:58 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-13T19:53:58 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T19:55:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-13T19:56:23 -!- chipsMonstret [uid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vdjnshnohyibomns] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-13T19:56:24 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmciglhqqjzayzfv] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T19:56:28 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-trrdpqgifribepqg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T20:00:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:04:41 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-13T20:05:50 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-FLUKE-87-V-Digital-Multimeter/dp/B0002YFD1K/ 2016-05-13T20:05:51 < ReadError> or 2016-05-13T20:06:01 < ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-289-True-RMS-Logging-Multimeter/dp/B0012B51HI/ 2016-05-13T20:06:15 < ReadError> i guess the 87 is the goldstandard or w/e 2016-05-13T20:07:28 < trepidacious> We just got a 289, seems nice 2016-05-13T20:08:02 < ReadError> i like the expanded display 2016-05-13T20:08:31 < ReadError> plus they have the spend 500 get something free deal 2016-05-13T20:08:40 < ReadError> so could easily flip the free DMM for 150 2016-05-13T20:09:24 < ReadError> Fluke 117 Electrician’s Digital Multimeter with Non-Contact Voltage 2016-05-13T20:17:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:18:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:24:01 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-onqlswrzjqniqrgu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:24:48 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmdrpkfadbfrukku] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:25:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:5133:f2f:915b:c9e] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:30:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:30:14 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbhooynxjcdvktbb] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:31:02 < upgrdman> if you have a "int* foo;" and you want to pass that address to a function that takes an int*, you just pass foo, right? not &foo, which would be the address of the pointer variable? 2016-05-13T20:32:04 < trepidacious> Yup 2016-05-13T20:32:18 < upgrdman> k thx 2016-05-13T20:32:38 < trepidacious> For reasons I've never understood, & makes an X into a *X, and * makes a *X into an X 2016-05-13T20:33:18 < trepidacious> So & on int* gets you an int**, which is sometimes useful 2016-05-13T20:33:39 < upgrdman> ya i just dont do enough with pointers to have this shit memorized 2016-05-13T20:33:50 < upgrdman> yesterday i used function pointers for the first time. turned out well. 2016-05-13T20:33:53 < trepidacious> I'd normally type it as "int *foo" though, not sure if that's a universal convention 2016-05-13T20:33:59 < trepidacious> function pointers are great 2016-05-13T20:33:59 < upgrdman> ya me too 2016-05-13T20:34:10 < upgrdman> typo in my earlier question 2016-05-13T20:34:14 < upgrdman> but ya, int *foo 2016-05-13T20:35:12 < upgrdman> iirc in c you put the * next to the variable, because it's not uh, whats the word... multiplicative? e.g. int* foo, bar, baz; ... only foo would be a pointer :( 2016-05-13T20:35:37 < trepidacious> Ah that makes sense 2016-05-13T20:35:49 < trepidacious> I just avoid using multiple variable declarations 2016-05-13T20:35:56 < upgrdman> same here 2016-05-13T20:36:39 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-13T20:36:41 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T20:36:46 < upgrdman> i rage so hard when i see some of my coworkers code with like 15 unrelated variables declared with one statement because they all happen to be the same type. 2016-05-13T20:39:35 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T20:42:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-13T21:17:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-13T21:18:50 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T21:21:31 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T21:27:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-13T21:27:56 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T21:32:51 < Laurenceb_> anyone here familiar with adaptive noise cancelling? 2016-05-13T21:36:13 < kakimir> I have noisy noise canceling ear protevtion thibgs 2016-05-13T21:36:20 < kakimir> very sucky 2016-05-13T21:38:00 < Laurenceb_> heh I can't make it work 2016-05-13T21:38:26 < Laurenceb_> wondered if there were any off the shelf software tools I could try to benchmark against 2016-05-13T21:38:40 < Laurenceb_> or if anyone wants to have a go with my data in matlab :P 2016-05-13T21:44:37 < kakimir> my peltors have sone really crude thing in them that mutes mics if too loud noise and gradually fades sound back in 2016-05-13T21:44:57 < kakimir> uswless in working environment 2016-05-13T21:45:38 < kakimir> mics stay muted most of time 2016-05-13T21:47:39 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T21:51:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T21:55:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T21:59:53 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T22:07:02 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-skaaqbztellswrvs] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T22:07:30 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T22:08:18 -!- Tectu_ is now known as Tectu 2016-05-13T22:08:56 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vmsojqsecdjpznsq] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T22:11:49 -!- DanteA_ [~DanteA@host-132-156-66-217.spbmts.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-13T22:23:31 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T22:24:24 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T22:24:36 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T22:27:35 < Laurenceb_> saw some chan level graffiti earlier 2016-05-13T22:27:55 < Laurenceb_> "Are you Homo Sapiens?" 2016-05-13T22:28:12 < Laurenceb_> graffiti below "Yes, but I sexually identify as a lawnmower" 2016-05-13T22:30:45 < kakimir> cuckin 2016-05-13T22:32:10 < kakimir> how muh Laurenceb_ you get paid in hour? 2016-05-13T22:32:20 < Laurenceb_> dat secret 2016-05-13T22:32:25 < Laurenceb_> about UKP22 2016-05-13T22:33:57 < kakimir> what you dink about gettin paid half of that for basic jub? 2016-05-13T22:34:38 < Laurenceb_> no 2016-05-13T22:34:49 < Laurenceb_> then I have to turn up 9 to 5 and do boring shit 2016-05-13T22:34:53 < kakimir> but hey.. 22 says you not quite there yet 2016-05-13T22:35:32 < Laurenceb_> I used to work in a Hotel part time 2016-05-13T22:35:47 < Laurenceb_> that was boring but the staff were crazy which was fun 2016-05-13T22:36:02 < Laurenceb_> we used to grow weed in the attic 2016-05-13T22:36:03 < kakimir> got paid like 11? 2016-05-13T22:36:11 < kakimir> or less 2016-05-13T22:36:30 < Laurenceb_> even less 2016-05-13T22:36:39 < Laurenceb_> the receptionist was a camwhore etc etc 2016-05-13T22:36:54 < kakimir> who would have know 2016-05-13T22:36:55 < kakimir> n 2016-05-13T22:37:03 < Laurenceb_> she showed me her videos 2016-05-13T22:37:16 < Laurenceb_> the chef was a drug dealer 2016-05-13T22:37:24 < Laurenceb_> pretty crazy place 2016-05-13T22:37:31 < kakimir> that your grocery store cashier may have big meter long rubber dildo at home 2016-05-13T22:39:12 < Laurenceb_> everyone I meet now is too sane and sensible 2016-05-13T22:40:22 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: sounds like that movie where madonna and some witches try to get semen out of hotel servant boy 2016-05-13T22:41:03 < kakimir> all I remember of the movie 2016-05-13T22:43:17 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Pd2pGkq54 2016-05-13T22:43:21 < kakimir> this 2016-05-13T23:00:26 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-13T23:09:52 < mitrax> gaaah latest stable openocd won't recognize my STM32F410RB, can i get it to work by tweaking one of the conf file or do i need a patched binary? 2016-05-13T23:11:59 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T23:14:38 < mitrax> nvm, someone pointed me to an update cfg file 2016-05-13T23:14:47 < mitrax> updated 2016-05-13T23:14:56 < kakimir> just start building from git master 2016-05-13T23:15:13 < mitrax> no thanks 2016-05-13T23:17:33 < mitrax> i don't want to spend 4 hours trying to get compile the x64 binary for windows which probably requires mingw and a ton of other shit 2016-05-13T23:17:49 < mitrax> -get 2016-05-13T23:19:14 < mitrax> anyway it's just a matter of adding 5 lines to the stm32f4xx.cfg file 2016-05-13T23:22:20 < kakimir> get any laptop from last 10years or so 2016-05-13T23:22:43 < kakimir> throw linux mint in it 2016-05-13T23:22:47 < kakimir> compile master 2016-05-13T23:23:06 < kakimir> start debug server and connect with your desktop 2016-05-13T23:23:59 < mitrax> pssst, it's fixed already 2016-05-13T23:24:13 < kakimir> I have one running and I had debug session last time... 3weeks ago I think 2016-05-13T23:24:21 < kakimir> it's always ready to go 2016-05-13T23:25:44 < mitrax> i have openocd running on a laptop already when i need to do debug on the field, and i don't need linux for that 2016-05-13T23:27:29 < kakimir> less sucky to keep running months and years 2016-05-13T23:27:42 < mitrax> uh? 2016-05-13T23:27:53 < kakimir> it doesn't update itself into windows 10 suddenly and boot itself 2016-05-13T23:28:38 < mitrax> it would be retarded to have a laptop running 24h/7 and that wastes energy just for running openocd 2016-05-13T23:29:39 < kakimir> I have just that 2016-05-13T23:29:59 < mitrax> and i don't reboot my box every two days ... atm i have a 5 months uptime 2016-05-13T23:34:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T23:35:23 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-13T23:36:05 < mitrax> which is a bit much i admit... should reboot and get the latest updates... but for that i have to close the gazillions stuff that i left open :( 2016-05-13T23:38:38 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/eT5CeWZ.png 2016-05-13T23:38:42 < Laurenceb_> a bit pitiful 2016-05-13T23:39:09 < mitrax> wow nice, is that with ICA? 2016-05-13T23:40:23 < Laurenceb_> adaptive noise cancelling and ICA 2016-05-13T23:40:52 < Laurenceb_> adaptive noise cancel all the electrode channels then put through ICA and pick out the signal with the best ECG trace 2016-05-13T23:41:03 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE85E32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-13T23:41:04 < mitrax> although i'm a bit quick to assume the output is properly filtered :) seems a bit less noisy, is the filtered signal looks like a proper ECG? 2016-05-13T23:41:26 < Laurenceb_> not really, but it is a bit less noisy 2016-05-13T23:41:43 < Laurenceb_> I was hoping for better, but I suspect I haven't fine tuned something correctly 2016-05-13T23:42:26 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p4FFA3FEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-13T23:42:26 < mitrax> is that from matlab? 2016-05-13T23:42:28 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-13T23:43:02 < Laurenceb_> the ICA should probably be adaptive in some way, I'm going to try running it over 20 second interleaved windows then interpolating the coefficients 2016-05-13T23:43:57 < mitrax> do they need the ECG in realtime or can you postprocess it? 2016-05-13T23:44:12 < Laurenceb_> in realtime in the final product 2016-05-13T23:44:22 < Laurenceb_> but atm its postprocessed only 2016-05-13T23:48:03 < mitrax> 190bpm, is that full galop? 2016-05-13T23:48:57 < Laurenceb_> yes it was going down the course at about 60km/h 2016-05-13T23:49:54 < mitrax> is it the one that got jerked off? :p 2016-05-13T23:50:38 < Laurenceb_> lulno 2016-05-13T23:51:34 < BrainDamage> he secretely wanted to be in place of the horse 2016-05-13T23:52:07 < Laurenceb_> nope, I had no plan to run around at 60km/h 2016-05-13T23:52:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-13T23:52:19 < mitrax> yeah i'm sure he fantasizes about the stable girls since 2016-05-13T23:53:25 < mitrax> "you big stud, let us jerk you off" 2016-05-13T23:53:28 < mitrax> *cue 70s porn music* 2016-05-13T23:54:26 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39772.0;attach=1115641 --- Day changed Sat May 14 2016 2016-05-14T00:01:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.100.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-14T00:08:01 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/KLCkWsk.png 2016-05-14T00:08:09 < Laurenceb_> well that didnt help much 2016-05-14T00:08:15 < Laurenceb_> if at all 2016-05-14T00:14:58 < Laurenceb_> I guess the muscle groups don't wander around the skeleton 2016-05-14T00:15:16 < Laurenceb_> and thats what rolling ICA would be modelling 2016-05-14T00:15:19 < mitrax> btw how do you decide which signal is the "best" trace after ICA? the one with the less spectral density or something? 2016-05-14T00:15:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T00:17:36 < Laurenceb_> I plot autocorrelation for each signal 2016-05-14T00:17:59 < Laurenceb_> there is a peak around 3hz for the ECG, and 2 hz for the motion 2016-05-14T00:18:14 < Laurenceb_> then take ratio of the peaks as a performance metric 2016-05-14T00:18:38 < Laurenceb_> the horse was taking 2 strides per second 2016-05-14T00:21:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T00:25:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T00:26:32 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-14T00:28:26 < englishman> Laurenceb_: fuck you, linking to a pdf that i cant view in browser 2016-05-14T00:28:28 < englishman> NOT FUNNY 2016-05-14T00:31:18 < Laurenceb_> the not funny bit is its emdrive nuttery 2016-05-14T00:31:31 < Laurenceb_> still being taken seriously 2016-05-14T00:31:34 < englishman> this isnt even written in latex 2016-05-14T00:31:43 < englishman> how am i supposed to take it seriously 2016-05-14T00:31:48 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-14T00:45:52 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-14T00:46:19 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T00:51:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T00:52:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T01:06:38 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T01:07:06 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-14T01:14:11 < Laurenceb_> RaiserFS 2016-05-14T01:24:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T01:27:03 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T01:27:48 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-14T01:42:07 -!- k\o\w [~kow@174.115.197.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-14T01:46:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-14T01:51:37 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T01:54:28 < daey> im trying to setup the toolchain for linux -> STLink 2.1 (Nucleo STM32F411) 2016-05-14T01:54:54 < Fleck> daey: so? 2016-05-14T01:55:00 < daey> there is a blink test program on the nucleo, is the binary for that available somewhere? 2016-05-14T01:55:08 < daey> just to test if my flashing works 2016-05-14T01:55:59 < daey> i havent done anything on arm yet otherwise i would jsut write my own blink program 2016-05-14T01:57:52 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T01:58:33 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-14T01:59:31 < karlp> daey: the factory demo firmware is available from st 2016-05-14T02:08:17 < daey> ohsix: you mean 'arm-none-eabi-gcc'? 2016-05-14T02:08:47 < Rob235> anyone good with networking? 2016-05-14T02:08:58 < daey> yes thats the one i wanted to use 2016-05-14T02:09:17 < daey> im on arch 2016-05-14T02:10:01 < Rob235> I have a second router connected to my cable modem/router and am trying to forward a port but the program is still saying it's closed 2016-05-14T02:10:11 < daey> it is, but arm-nonoe-eabi-gcc is in the standard repo 2016-05-14T02:10:23 < daey> yes 2016-05-14T02:11:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-14T02:11:44 < daey> do i even need the 'stlink' package? apparently the nucleo registers three devices, including a memory device, to which i apparently can simply copy my binary file :/ 2016-05-14T02:13:22 < BrainDamage> you still want a debug bridge 2016-05-14T02:13:32 < BrainDamage> either openocd or stlink 2016-05-14T02:14:02 < daey> BrainDamage: ok. i thought stlink creates the interface/server over which openocd connects to the chip 2016-05-14T02:14:43 < BrainDamage> no, both communicate directly trought lisbusb 2016-05-14T02:14:46 < BrainDamage> libusb* 2016-05-14T02:15:09 < BrainDamage> stlink package howrever, also contains the udev rules 2016-05-14T02:15:13 < BrainDamage> you do want those 2016-05-14T02:15:20 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T02:16:36 < BrainDamage> daey: there's some slight confusion because stlink is both the name of the hw device that acts as programmer/debugger and the sw program 2016-05-14T02:17:26 < daey> so openocd and stlink do essentially the same? 2016-05-14T02:17:29 < BrainDamage> you can use hw stlink + openocd, or hw stlink + sw stlink 2016-05-14T02:17:31 < daey> or at least overlap? 2016-05-14T02:17:55 < daey> in that case openocd seems like a better choice 2016-05-14T02:17:55 < BrainDamage> they accomplish the same thing, in different ways 2016-05-14T02:18:08 < BrainDamage> openocd is more featureful but less automatic 2016-05-14T02:18:16 < BrainDamage> you'll need some config to get started 2016-05-14T02:18:38 < BrainDamage> stlink is more basic, but it's essentially plug and play 2016-05-14T02:19:17 < daey> looks like openocd comes with tons of scripts already :o 2016-05-14T02:25:00 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T02:25:14 < daey> http://dpaste.com/2XMFN2S does that look good? 2016-05-14T02:26:40 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-14T02:30:04 < daey> you mean of the openocd connection? 2016-05-14T02:31:10 < daey> ah well i saved the command, so i dont care how long it is 2016-05-14T02:32:01 < Laurenceb_> s/plug and play/plug and RAGEEEEE 2016-05-14T02:32:08 < Laurenceb_> but usually it works 2016-05-14T02:32:21 < Laurenceb_> openocd is RAGE and RAGE 2016-05-14T02:32:46 < daey> well i dont really know what to expect after running said command thats why i posted the log 2016-05-14T02:32:55 < daey> just wanted to know if that is what i want to see 2016-05-14T02:34:49 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-14T02:38:26 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-14T02:40:55 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/zpAuMwh 2016-05-14T02:45:30 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/FxpQ9py.png 2016-05-14T02:46:27 < daey> ken m strikes again... 2016-05-14T02:46:58 < Laurenceb_> I only link from nasaspaceflight and 8chan 2016-05-14T02:47:38 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/a/9JCs9 2016-05-14T02:49:44 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T02:49:53 < daey> :D 2016-05-14T02:49:56 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-14T02:50:00 < Laurenceb_> 8chan trollz 2016-05-14T02:50:49 < daey> i thought he was finally in jail 2016-05-14T02:51:00 < daey> but this guys is immune to everything apparently... 2016-05-14T02:51:30 < Laurenceb_> he dindu nuffin 2016-05-14T02:52:10 < daey> i mean the shit he pulled afterwards 2016-05-14T02:52:52 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T02:53:19 < daey> i mean this shit: He briefly barricades himself in apartment before being arrested. Cops searching for two weapons. 2016-05-14T02:53:40 < daey> no idea how hes still allowed to even possess a weapon :P 2016-05-14T02:54:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-14T02:54:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T02:58:48 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-14T02:59:26 < daey> ok gdb works :) 2016-05-14T03:00:48 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T03:03:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T03:06:08 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiTSLddVAAEqa7Q.jpg 2016-05-14T03:08:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T03:09:34 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-14T03:09:43 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T03:15:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T03:16:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-14T03:23:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-14T03:36:33 < daey> hm apparently im missing the stm32f4xx.h library 2016-05-14T03:36:48 < dongs> thats stdperiphlib. 2016-05-14T03:36:52 < dongs> or cmsis maybe? 2016-05-14T03:38:08 < Laurenceb_> cuck.h 2016-05-14T03:38:22 < daey> is that a joke? 2016-05-14T03:38:30 < dongs> daey: what is the problem exactly 2016-05-14T03:38:31 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-14T03:38:41 < daey> Laurenceb_: :p 2016-05-14T03:38:50 < daey> im trying to compile a test program 2016-05-14T03:39:01 < daey> which uses the stm32f4xx.h 2016-05-14T03:39:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T03:40:00 < daey> but seeing that i am using a manufacturer independent toolchain, im guessing this cant work at all 2016-05-14T03:40:19 < Laurenceb_> 5396 laurence 20 0 1510m 703m 30m R 99 37.4 878:16.02 firefox 2016-05-14T03:40:20 < Laurenceb_> nice 2016-05-14T03:43:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-14T03:44:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:5133:f2f:915b:c9e] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-14T03:44:09 < Laurenceb_> hellfox 2016-05-14T03:44:48 < englishman> dongs wtf http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__90541__Afro_20A_Race_Spec_4_in_1_ESC_and_CC3D_Flight_Controller.html 2016-05-14T03:45:18 < Laurenceb_> das racist 2016-05-14T03:53:00 < daey> do i need the libopencm3? 2016-05-14T03:53:03 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-14T03:53:29 < BrainDamage> there's multiple HAL libs 2016-05-14T03:53:56 < BrainDamage> timecube, chibios, stperiph, libopencm3, etc 2016-05-14T03:54:11 < daey> any of them preferable? 2016-05-14T03:54:28 < BrainDamage> depends on your requirements 2016-05-14T03:54:45 < BrainDamage> license, do you want an rtos, ease of use, etc 2016-05-14T03:55:59 < englishman> careful 2016-05-14T03:56:10 < englishman> stdperiphlib license says it can only be used on ST processors 2016-05-14T03:56:16 < englishman> therefore its NOT open source 2016-05-14T03:56:21 < englishman> kill it with fire. aids 2016-05-14T03:56:26 < englishman> RMS is rolling in his grave 2016-05-14T03:57:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T03:58:04 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-14T04:00:17 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T04:05:49 < dongs> pondering how im going to rework a bunch of PLCC-6 leds 2016-05-14T04:06:00 < dongs> those metcal tweezers would do ver well right about now 2016-05-14T04:07:47 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T04:10:00 < englishman> dongs are you involved in this cc3d 2016-05-14T04:10:02 < englishman> with mini usb 2016-05-14T04:17:42 < daey> if i wouldnt use any hal, would it simply be a 'modifying registers' ala ATMEGA? 2016-05-14T04:19:17 < daey> i dont get why this has to be more complicated than atmega programming. the core is standardized, only the registers/peripherals change depending on the manufacturer 2016-05-14T04:23:19 < Rickta59> does the atmega have 50 flavors of dma/spi/i2c/sdio/uart/usart/usi daey ? 2016-05-14T04:24:01 < Rickta59> https://github.com/GrumpyOldPizza/arduino-STM32L4/blob/master/system/libstm32l4_dragonfly/stm32l4_spi.c there is one approach to wrap some code using the CMSIS device header 2016-05-14T04:24:43 < daey> Rickta59: how do you select them? by setting registers? 2016-05-14T04:24:57 < daey> simply give me a table that tells me what to set for which flavor :/ 2016-05-14T04:25:08 < dongs> reference manual 2016-05-14T04:25:12 < daey> yep 2016-05-14T04:25:12 < Rickta59> pick a chip and live with it 2016-05-14T04:25:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T04:25:21 < Rickta59> learn its ins and outs and stop worrying about the others 2016-05-14T04:25:35 < Rickta59> and just slam the registers yourself 2016-05-14T04:29:23 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T04:30:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T04:33:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@68.2.68.52] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-14T04:35:10 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T04:38:59 < daey> crt: im just stunned by the gigantic amount of files you need for a project "CMSIS-CORE" 2016-05-14T04:39:32 < Rickta59> how many is gigantic? 2016-05-14T04:40:00 < dongs> nope 2016-05-14T04:40:07 < dongs> all you nbeed is cmsis and stm32f4xx.h 2016-05-14T04:40:52 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-05-14T04:40:55 < daey> dongs: .h, system_.h, core_.h, startupp_.h 2016-05-14T04:41:02 < dongs> ???????????????????? 2016-05-14T04:41:08 < daey> exactly ;D 2016-05-14T04:41:14 < Rickta59> did you ever look at how many files get included with an atmega compile? 2016-05-14T04:41:18 < emeb_mac> that's a lot? 2016-05-14T04:41:23 < dongs> < daey> crt: im just stunned by the giganticC amount 2016-05-14T04:41:25 < dongs> wat 2016-05-14T04:41:39 < dongs> < daey> crt: im just stunned by the gigantic amount 2016-05-14T04:41:49 < dongs> adskfjsldkfjldkjf 2016-05-14T04:42:19 < dongs> dforfutruof 2016-05-14T04:42:24 < dongs> fgorgot no colors in this chiart' 2016-05-14T04:42:27 < dongs> alsol hard as fuck to chat 2016-05-14T04:43:56 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/GX1BzfN.jpg my desk rigjht how9n 2016-05-14T04:44:00 < dongs> so chats r limited 2016-05-14T04:59:27 < dongs> well this is easy kjust tedious as fucjk' 2016-05-14T05:01:07 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-14T05:01:47 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T05:19:34 < dongs> lease a paki 2016-05-14T05:19:48 < dongs> gave up after doing 18 boards 2016-05-14T05:20:04 < englishman> what r u doin 2016-05-14T05:20:11 < englishman> these thermaldonix tweezers are nice 2016-05-14T05:21:19 < dongs> pulling dead ledz and replacing 2016-05-14T05:23:00 < dongs> i could post it on feelancer 2016-05-14T05:23:10 < englishman> just use the tweezers http://imgur.com/a/GrUrv 2016-05-14T05:23:31 < dongs> i'd need like wide tips 2016-05-14T05:23:37 < dongs> to grab both ends of plcc 2016-05-14T05:23:52 < englishman> many tip selections http://www.thermaltronics.com/tz-kit-1.php 2016-05-14T05:24:07 < englishman> 5mm chisel? 2016-05-14T05:24:11 < daey> dongs: just macguyver some alu foil to the tips :P 2016-05-14T05:24:21 < daey> gyver* 2016-05-14T05:26:38 < dongs> englishman: that'll do probly 2016-05-14T05:26:41 < dongs> its 5050lesd 2016-05-14T05:32:42 -!- faaw [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T05:34:22 < faaw> non technical question about STM. why is STMicro HQ in Switzerland when it is a french-italian company? Why not Paris or Rome? 2016-05-14T05:34:49 < dongs> probably taxes 2016-05-14T05:35:17 < faaw> dongs: ahh ... makes sense. Switzerland is tax haven. 2016-05-14T05:36:36 < faaw> STM owns their own wafer fab. Does STM manufacture for other fabless companies like TSMC ? Or just manufacture STM chips? 2016-05-14T05:37:17 < faaw> What are the STM chips' strengths? Is it MEMS and 32-bit MCU? 2016-05-14T05:37:34 < dongs> tehy also make a fair bit of power ICs 2016-05-14T05:37:43 < dongs> + fets/igbt etc for automotive shit 2016-05-14T05:38:52 < faaw> how do STM32 MCUs fare against competitors like Microchip , Atmel, NXP? 2016-05-14T05:38:59 < faaw> for 32-bit MCUs 2016-05-14T05:39:35 < englishman> in what sense 2016-05-14T05:39:45 < englishman> hobbyist, small biz, coffeemaker, tesla? 2016-05-14T05:39:47 < faaw> value for money. 2016-05-14T05:40:02 < dongs> buty some attinesd 2016-05-14T05:40:03 < faaw> for small business 2016-05-14T05:40:28 < englishman> well, lets see, stm32f0, 48Mhz cortex-m0 for $1, or atmega328p, ancient 8bit trash with no ram for $1.6 2016-05-14T05:40:29 < faaw> sorry, what is attinesd 2016-05-14T05:41:08 < faaw> ok. atmel is a loser compared to stm. But NXP MCUs are quite cheap as well. How does STM32 MCUs compare against NXP? 2016-05-14T05:41:28 < englishman> stm32f0 discovery, $10 devboard with live debugging, arduino, $25 smelly italian clones with bloated booloader and java IDE 2016-05-14T05:41:40 < faaw> Silicon Labs is also a strong contender for 32-bit low-power chips. How does STM32 compare against silicon labs? 2016-05-14T05:42:07 < faaw> atmel is a loser. popular only because of Arduino 2016-05-14T05:42:37 < faaw> ohsix: do u mean stm32 bootloader is inside ROM? 2016-05-14T05:42:47 < englishman> have you tried lpcxpresso? i havent 2016-05-14T05:43:43 < dongs> NXP periperals are pretty crap 2016-05-14T05:43:46 < englishman> faaw: yes check here https://my.st.com/public/STe2ecommunities/mcu/Lists/cortex_mx_stm32/Attachments/18225/AN2606.pdf 2016-05-14T05:44:35 < faaw> when using microchip MCUs, there's low risk of end-of-life. How about stm32? 2016-05-14T05:44:57 < englishman> these are pretty simple questions 2016-05-14T05:44:57 < englishman> http://www.st.com/web/support/product_longevity.html 2016-05-14T05:44:59 < faaw> englishman: yes. it means there's 0 risk of stm32 becoming bricked 2016-05-14T05:45:04 < englishman> right 2016-05-14T05:45:36 < dongs> you no who has highest 2016-05-14T05:45:52 < englishman> maxim? 2016-05-14T05:45:54 < englishman> trololololo 2016-05-14T05:45:57 < faaw> englishman: sorry, that link is not available 2016-05-14T05:46:21 < englishman> faaw: http://i.imgur.com/ClQDznF.png 2016-05-14T05:46:42 < faaw> englishman: ok. probably my problem 2016-05-14T05:46:53 < englishman> where you from faaw 2016-05-14T05:47:17 < dongs> englishman: no, TI 2016-05-14T05:47:26 < dongs> with their tiva ex whatever the fuck ex wahtever the fuck 2016-05-14T05:47:32 < dongs> TI arm is retarded priced too 2016-05-14T05:47:32 < faaw> one thing i like about stm32 is that there is #stm32 on freenode. Can get helpful answers from folks like you:) 2016-05-14T05:48:03 < faaw> cannot find freenode channel for NXP 32-bit chips. 2016-05-14T05:48:14 < dongs> theres a couple people here dicking wiht NXP 2016-05-14T05:48:18 < dongs> mostly only hear rage about htem 2016-05-14T05:48:30 < dongs> like.... i was looking for cmsis/stdperiph for NXP stuff a while ago 2016-05-14T05:48:31 < faaw> dongs: may i know which freenode channel is that? 2016-05-14T05:48:37 < faaw> for nxp 2016-05-14T05:48:37 < dongs> it exists in some ancient forum attachments only 2016-05-14T05:48:39 < englishman> dongs: hows your odroid-c2 i got mine yesterday 2016-05-14T05:48:50 < dongs> englishman: in my desk together wiht rageberrypi+other trash, untouched 2016-05-14T05:49:01 < englishman> hardware 4k/h265 2016-05-14T05:49:02 < englishman> yay 2016-05-14T05:49:07 < englishman> and pcm 2.0 2016-05-14T05:49:08 < englishman> O.o 2016-05-14T05:49:13 < dongs> should be a good match for my new 4096x2160 monitor 2016-05-14T05:49:19 < faaw> dongs: why do u call raspberry pi as rageberrypi? what is bad about Rpi? 2016-05-14T05:49:35 < dongs> faaw: i'd probably get flooded off irc if i started listing al lthe problems 2016-05-14T05:49:45 < faaw> i'm listening 2016-05-14T05:50:00 < faaw> I like Rpi for the specs and price. How to beat that? 2016-05-14T05:50:12 < dongs> biggest problem: lunix 2016-05-14T05:50:26 < dongs> faaw: which channel = i said, in this channel. 2016-05-14T05:50:37 < dongs> i have some hardware wiht nxp, upgrdman does nxp shit at work, etc. 2016-05-14T05:50:46 < faaw> i'm listening again. Why is linux bad? it is favorite OS for embedded system that does complex stuff 2016-05-14T05:51:43 < faaw> dongs: u prefer RTOS? bare-metal?infinite while loop? but those OS has problems running network protocols 2016-05-14T05:52:05 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/kmh63qy.jpg 4AWG 2016-05-14T05:52:15 < dongs> i think im gonna need a bigger metcal 2016-05-14T05:52:36 < englishman> haha 2016-05-14T05:53:12 < faaw> linux is good for networked embedded applications. 2016-05-14T05:53:37 < dongs> faaw: i have a few projects doing lwip on stm32, no issues really 2016-05-14T05:53:54 < dongs> i dont need pyGAYthon, lunix, etc. 2016-05-14T05:54:21 < faaw> dongs: but tcp/ip is only one protocol. There are other protocols like ftp, ssh, ntp, mqtt. Easier to support new network protocols on Linux 2016-05-14T05:54:53 < faaw> can stm32 support http? 2016-05-14T05:54:57 < dongs> .. yes 2016-05-14T05:55:02 < dongs> why the fuck not? 2016-05-14T05:55:39 < faaw> oh ... can one use cubemx to configure support for tcp/ip and http? 2016-05-14T05:55:56 < dongs> i think so 2016-05-14T05:56:11 < emeb_mac> ethernet demo has a simple webserver 2016-05-14T05:56:13 < emeb_mac> uses lwip 2016-05-14T05:56:29 < faaw> i'm impressed. 2016-05-14T05:56:49 < dongs> faaw, it can do http client also, to do something like play streaming audio from shitcast/etc. 2016-05-14T05:57:06 < dongs> and decode mp3/aac at the same time wow 2016-05-14T05:57:38 < faaw> dongs: hmm ... stm32 sounds good. Is it used in smartphones? 2016-05-14T05:57:46 < emeb_mac> haha 2016-05-14T05:59:05 < dongs> i think that short-lived-nrnd-now ST cortex core + accelerometor thingy was thier aborted entry into smartphone sensor hub market 2016-05-14T05:59:19 < englishman> theres stm32f4 in pebble watch 2016-05-14T06:01:26 < englishman> f4 in the colour one and f2 in the old one iirc 2016-05-14T06:03:21 < englishman> sup o6 nm nm 2016-05-14T06:10:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T06:12:07 < englishman> st's greatest flaw: they run their webservers on st hardware 2016-05-14T06:12:41 < englishman> o6 i got some digital pid controllers with k type for like $16 including ssr etc 2016-05-14T06:12:48 < englishman> for controlling woodburning furnace 2016-05-14T06:13:03 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-14T06:13:11 < englishman> industrial china plastic 2016-05-14T06:13:15 < englishman> with buttons and stuff yes 2016-05-14T06:19:27 < dongs> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/c9ljxNykQx4/maxresdefault.jpg wat 2016-05-14T06:24:36 < englishman> only 7 gigantic fans and a huge pump to cool all that trash 2016-05-14T06:24:44 < englishman> very useful 2016-05-14T06:25:37 < dongs> all that shit and spinning rust hdds 2016-05-14T06:25:47 < dongs> pro gamer station 2016-05-14T06:29:20 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.153] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T06:31:38 < PeterM> dongs for solering those massive cables i jsut use a small bropane torch 2016-05-14T06:35:11 < dongs> heh yeah really. 2016-05-14T06:36:01 < PeterM> yeah, and generally, i dont actualyl solder that stuff, usually jsut crimp it and use ring terminals etc 2016-05-14T06:36:12 < dongs> right 2016-05-14T06:36:15 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-14T06:36:18 < dongs> i was gonna hit the hardware store after the shit shows up 2016-05-14T06:36:21 < dongs> and find ring terminals 2016-05-14T06:36:29 < dongs> i'd need to solder that shit into that 'current sensor' tho 2016-05-14T06:36:31 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T06:37:55 < englishman> torch and plumber solder 2016-05-14T06:38:17 < PeterM> i'd clone that curent sensor shit 2016-05-14T06:38:37 < PeterM> you arent gonna solder it in there, hte cable is probably as big as the enclosure 2016-05-14T06:40:53 < dongs> haha 2016-05-14T06:41:02 < dongs> yes, thats also a possibility 2016-05-14T06:43:56 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iuuuqueqravdzyeh] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T06:43:59 < upgrdman> typical lunix http://imgur.com/iwzUMT9 2016-05-14T06:45:45 < PeterM> right up there with http://i.imgur.com/XLRovqD.jpg?1 2016-05-14T06:53:33 < upgrdman> ohsix, lol. look at the pic. one of the microphone pins is not even soldered to the PCB 2016-05-14T06:56:39 < upgrdman> on the stm32f0, if im using a timer that does not support dead-time-insertion, is there a way to fake it? im using TIM2 to drive a half-bridge (because reusing an old design) and im using two PWM outputs for that. i can add dead-time in the "middle" of the period by giving the two channels a little values in CCR, but that doesn't fix the "edges" of the period. 2016-05-14T06:56:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-14T06:56:57 < upgrdman> hmmm can the pwm outputs be sequenced / phase shifted a bit? 2016-05-14T06:57:40 < PeterM> i think so, i recall seeing a clive1 post about it 2016-05-14T06:58:49 < upgrdman> well ya there is a good timer for that, TIM1 iirc 2016-05-14T06:59:05 < upgrdman> problems is im reusing an old project, and the PCB is laid out for TIM2 which is not a motor timer 2016-05-14T06:59:52 < upgrdman> not on f0 2016-05-14T06:59:58 < upgrdman> f4 is better in that regard iirc 2016-05-14T07:02:38 < englishman> why doesnt amazon use paypal, why doesnt kickstarter use paypal 2016-05-14T07:03:08 < PeterM> >why doesn't x use paypal 2016-05-14T07:03:13 < PeterM> >because fees 2016-05-14T07:03:24 < PeterM> >because paypal=gaypal 2016-05-14T07:03:40 < englishman> depends on how rapey your credit card pos terminal is 2016-05-14T07:03:48 < englishman> 2.5% isnt too bad in some cases 2016-05-14T07:04:19 < englishman> some shitty webstores like shopify take 2% on top of any processing fee 2016-05-14T07:04:26 < englishman> for doing even less work 2016-05-14T07:08:05 < PeterM> one thing i hate about paypal is currency conversion fee - paypal do their own internal currency conversion, because they have enough liquid assets in foreign currencys, so they choose their own rates, so they make money on every currency conversion - and then they have the audacity to charge you a fee for that 2016-05-14T07:09:12 < PeterM> more like paying a nigger to mug you, but close enough 2016-05-14T07:10:26 < englishman> PeterM: then dont play that game, keep all funds in your most common currency, and only transfer when the rate is in your favour 2016-05-14T07:10:59 < englishman> you cant blame elon musk for scamming idiots this is his job and he is very good at it 2016-05-14T07:11:10 < PeterM> englishman, the problem is most common currency used online = USD, most common currency used everywhere else = AUD 2016-05-14T07:11:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d0e4:cc56:bc6e:ef6] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T07:11:38 < PeterM> so if other bussiness paid me in USB this wouldnt be an issue 2016-05-14T07:11:41 < PeterM> *USD 2016-05-14T07:12:16 < PeterM> lo9l, USD, universal serial dollar 2016-05-14T07:13:05 < englishman> then you can take buttcoin instead, and pay 100% service fee when all your secret codez get taken by a romanian child 2016-05-14T07:15:40 < PeterM> or you could just pay wiht visa everywhere and let them handle the currency conversion fee free at market rates 2016-05-14T07:31:41 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T07:34:57 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T07:35:05 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-14T07:42:21 < ReadError> guize 2016-05-14T07:42:29 < ReadError> i need a hail mary 2016-05-14T07:42:50 < ReadError> got 2 different f3 shits that wont DFU or SWD anymore 2016-05-14T07:42:59 < ReadError> think some fucky option got set 2016-05-14T07:43:02 < dongs> too much cloning, shithead 2016-05-14T07:43:13 < dongs> why dout you email felix and ask 2016-05-14T07:43:23 < dongs> clearly hes more pro cloner than you 2016-05-14T07:43:30 < ReadError> why dont u go suck a cack 2016-05-14T07:45:06 < dongs> argh 2016-05-14T07:45:13 < dongs> lookin for something footprint compatible to VLF3010 2016-05-14T07:45:31 < dongs> i dont wanna redo stencils on like 20 products fuck 2016-05-14T07:46:32 < dongs> cant, its EOL and all china stock of it is oxidized garbge that doesnt reflow 2016-05-14T07:48:22 < PeterM> dongs maybe easier tyo jsut buy some hardcore flux and make sure you clean the boards afetrwards? 2016-05-14T07:48:39 < dongs> my footprint for htem is usaully pretty small too 2016-05-14T07:48:41 < dongs> theres no space 2016-05-14T07:48:50 < dongs> so rework is a cunt too 2016-05-14T07:49:33 < PeterM> is inductor all same value? 2016-05-14T07:49:40 < dongs> yea its 3010-2.2uH 2016-05-14T07:49:50 < PeterM> ill have a look 2016-05-14T07:50:06 < dongs> i think that shape is fairly tdk specfic 2016-05-14T07:50:21 < PeterM> doesnt matter bout shape, jsut land pattern 2016-05-14T07:50:22 < dongs> they have VLS3010 series that are ~same size but they're the standard 2 flat wide contacts 2016-05-14T07:50:48 < PeterM> is your footprint datasheet foorptint? 2016-05-14T07:50:53 < dongs> yep 2016-05-14T07:51:06 < PeterM> shouldnt be too hard to find then 2016-05-14T07:58:18 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/FuLyMCA 2016-05-14T07:59:55 < dongs> funny level: usa 2016-05-14T08:02:22 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/SaVriSAh.jpg 2016-05-14T08:11:08 < kakimir> executives have a shy pee? 2016-05-14T08:12:47 < PeterM> dongs find me datashet with exact footprint, ive found 3 datasheets with 3 different fuckign footprints 2016-05-14T08:14:30 < dongs> wtf. the tdk official one 2016-05-14T08:14:30 < dongs> sec 2016-05-14T08:14:56 < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/400/e531_vlf3010a-18306.pdf 2016-05-14T08:15:04 < dongs> the is is the one that matches my shit 2016-05-14T08:18:37 < kakimir> how is dongs? 2016-05-14T08:56:26 < PeterM> jesus fuck dongs that specific inductor is like the only one wiht that kind of footprint - even the similar kind of inductor (side contacts) still have more universal footprints... like look at this shit http://products.sumida.com/products/pdf/CDPH28D11F.pdf 2016-05-14T08:56:39 < PeterM> thats the closest one i could find 2016-05-14T08:56:49 < PeterM> and its not gonna work 2016-05-14T08:58:13 < dongs> yeah i think i used some sumida CDR stuff before 2016-05-14T08:58:22 < dongs> that looks ok actually 2016-05-14T08:58:24 < dongs> why wont it work? 2016-05-14T08:58:33 < dongs> ah, internal shit is too long 2016-05-14T08:59:55 < dongs> hmm ithink it might actually do.. bottom inner pad might be very close but it should stick 2016-05-14T09:00:22 < dongs> 2mm between ends of pad internally 2016-05-14T09:00:32 < dongs> would be a bit over my current footprint 2016-05-14T09:00:32 < PeterM> if you just want pads that will overlap well enough, bounes have some parts thatwill do 2016-05-14T09:01:40 < dongs> thats a pretty hardcore inductor too 2016-05-14T09:01:48 < dongs> 1.3A 2016-05-14T09:02:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d0e4:cc56:bc6e:ef6] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T09:03:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:1c8f:7470:d19b:7ff] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T09:05:09 < dongs> china doesnt hafe a lot of stock of that sumida trash 2016-05-14T09:05:12 < dongs> what was the bourns part? 2016-05-14T09:25:03 < PeterM> http://www.abracon.com/Magnetics/new/ASPI-0310FSSA.pdf they might work too 2016-05-14T09:28:55 < PeterM> http://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/pm1210_series.pdf 2016-05-14T09:43:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-14T10:00:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:1c8f:7470:d19b:7ff] has quit [Quit: Copywight 2012 Elmer Fudd. 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2016-05-14T12:29:03 < Steffanx> He's here, in tha house. 2016-05-14T12:33:18 < Steffanx> i dont do links mr crt. 2016-05-14T12:35:39 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T12:36:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.239] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T12:43:14 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2016-05-14T12:46:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-14T12:55:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:b98c:c570:9140:769f] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-14T13:34:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.116] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T13:39:38 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T13:39:47 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T13:43:30 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T13:46:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T14:06:59 < Steffanx> cats are gone, just mice now. 2016-05-14T14:26:07 * mitrax barks 2016-05-14T14:26:16 < mitrax> crt: yo 2016-05-14T14:27:06 < mitrax> not much 2016-05-14T14:28:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.100.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T14:35:40 < karlp> ohsix: for a lot of things, PT1000 RTD probes are better choices than the thermocouples. bigger signals, no need for the thermocouple amplifier bullshit. 2016-05-14T14:35:47 < karlp> they used to be more expensive, but it's not really any longer the case. 2016-05-14T14:38:24 < ReadError> welp ordered the Fluke 289 2016-05-14T14:41:44 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T14:42:12 -!- faaw [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T14:47:09 < ReadError> need to make a a probe using a pt1000 for my hotplate/stirrer 2016-05-14T14:47:15 < ReadError> got some just not got around to it 2016-05-14T14:53:13 < Lux> karlp: if you use that max31855 ic thermocouples are pretty easy to use 2016-05-14T14:53:43 < Lux> but it's allready like 4$ in single qty 2016-05-14T15:01:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-14T15:01:17 < karlp> crt: yeah, rtds 2016-05-14T15:01:30 < karlp> Lux: sure, but with the RTD's you don't need the thermocouple ic. 2016-05-14T15:02:21 < karlp> crt: just search for pt1000 on ebay, it's similar to thermocouple probes for most cases. 2016-05-14T15:04:10 < BrainDamage> kinda funny when a platinum strip costs less than ic 2016-05-14T15:05:59 < ReadError> anyone use kicad? 2016-05-14T15:06:07 < ReadError> trying to figure out how to generate an assembly diagram 2016-05-14T15:06:25 < ReadError> https://github.com/vedderb/bldc-hardware/blob/master/design/PNGs/B_Modules-1.png 2016-05-14T15:06:26 < ReadError> like that 2016-05-14T15:10:53 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T15:14:54 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-14T15:15:02 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T15:18:29 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p4FFA3FEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-14T15:19:09 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE876B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T15:31:02 < Laurenceb_> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/13/is_ubeam_the_new_theranos/ 2016-05-14T15:36:40 < Laurenceb_> beamed power with ultrasound 2016-05-14T15:36:55 < Laurenceb_> it doesnt pass basic maths test 2016-05-14T15:37:19 < Laurenceb_> even +-1bar sound isnt going to transmit useful power 2016-05-14T15:38:47 < englishman> straight out of zanos playbook 2016-05-14T15:44:50 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T15:46:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T15:49:10 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T15:52:16 < Laurenceb_> also the safety exposure limit is 3 orders of magnitude too low 2016-05-14T15:52:31 < Laurenceb_> which kind of makes sense or the ultrasound will burn people 2016-05-14T15:52:33 < Laurenceb_> hmmm 2016-05-14T15:52:39 < Laurenceb_> ultrasonic death ray 2016-05-14T15:56:27 < Laurenceb_> it is actually possible to send about 2W to a 5cm diameter receiver 2016-05-14T15:56:39 < Laurenceb_> but it needs around 185dB sound level 2016-05-14T15:56:41 < PeterM> crt jus go into bunnings tmorrow morning get a sausage sandwich and buy some tiber and table tops 2016-05-14T15:56:57 < PeterM> go home and put it all together with an impact driver and some hueg woodscrews 2016-05-14T15:57:25 < Laurenceb_> crt is in ##electronics O_o 2016-05-14T15:57:41 < Laurenceb_> thats retard central 2016-05-14T15:58:57 < englishman> really tho fuck lunixmint 2016-05-14T15:59:08 < Laurenceb_> there is hackitten 2016-05-14T15:59:17 < Laurenceb_> you can read about "her" sex life 2016-05-14T16:01:03 < Laurenceb_> “uBeam will transmit at about 120 kHz, with an intensity of about 155dB" 2016-05-14T16:01:04 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-14T16:01:31 < BrainDamage> uDisgregationRay 2016-05-14T16:02:15 < Laurenceb_> way over the power limits 2016-05-14T16:02:41 < Laurenceb_> yet only less than 1W delivered power to a 10cm diameter receiver 2016-05-14T16:04:16 < PeterM> so, with ubeam running, how do they stop the surface of nearby items melting 2016-05-14T16:04:18 < Laurenceb_> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Atmospheric_sound_absorption_coefficient_2.svg/650px-Atmospheric_sound_absorption_coefficient_2.svg.png 2016-05-14T16:04:22 < Laurenceb_> nice range 2016-05-14T16:04:37 < Laurenceb_> as in about 1m 2016-05-14T16:46:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-14T16:47:09 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T17:00:28 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-14T17:04:03 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-14T17:12:14 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T17:14:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:15:16 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:16:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:30:41 -!- obarb [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:31:29 -!- obarb is now known as brabo 2016-05-14T17:47:15 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:48:25 < Rickta59> are there any stm32 chips that have a spi peripheral that can divide the clock with a finer grain than power of 2 of the system clock? 2016-05-14T17:54:30 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-14T17:56:47 < Laurenceb_> can't you (ab)use a uart? 2016-05-14T17:57:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:57:17 < Rickta59> yes that is an option .. i was just wondering 2016-05-14T17:57:38 < Rickta59> can you invert the uart with register to make it idle low? 2016-05-14T17:57:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:57:50 < Rickta59> i looked and didn't see that 2016-05-14T17:57:52 < Laurenceb_> I dunno lol 2016-05-14T17:57:56 < Laurenceb_> probably not then 2016-05-14T17:58:22 < Laurenceb_> emeb_mac: have you ever played with adaptive noise cancelling? 2016-05-14T17:58:41 < Rickta59> there is no way to drive the spi clock with a timer is there? I looked for that and didn't see it either 2016-05-14T17:58:41 < Laurenceb_> wondered if anyone new of any off the shelf tools 2016-05-14T17:59:27 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T17:59:31 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: depends on what you mean. 2016-05-14T17:59:53 < Laurenceb_> well I have a reference signal and a "noise" signal 2016-05-14T18:00:05 < emeb_mac> I've done a lot of adaptive filtering for RF stuff (comm equalizers, etc) but not audio. 2016-05-14T18:00:09 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-14T18:00:25 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying in matlab but I'm not sure if I'm screwing it up or not 2016-05-14T18:00:40 < Laurenceb_> I wanted to benchmark it with some off the shelf tools 2016-05-14T18:00:46 < Laurenceb_> - benchmark my data 2016-05-14T18:00:48 < emeb_mac> there's a bunch of code floating around for using adaptive EQs to do audio noise canceling 2016-05-14T18:01:10 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T18:02:14 < emeb_mac> some ancient assembly code stuff for TI TMS320 DSPs used to eliminate persistent tones in audio (feedback, radio whistles, etc) 2016-05-14T18:03:17 -!- faaw [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-14T18:04:00 < Laurenceb_> I was wondering if there was an audacity plugin or something 2016-05-14T18:04:06 < Laurenceb_> guess I'll take a look with google 2016-05-14T18:06:45 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T18:09:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T18:10:11 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T18:11:44 < Rickta59> one approach I had thought about was to use the SPI as a slave and clock it with a timer ... not sure how feasible that is 2016-05-14T18:21:44 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T18:25:15 < Laurenceb_> dongs did that iirc 2016-05-14T18:27:05 < Rickta59> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/577pUS43.html this maybe? 2016-05-14T18:43:28 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-14T18:50:04 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T18:59:16 < jpa-> Rickta59: you can do DMA bitbang SPI off a timer.. though that is limited to about SYSCLK/6 max freq 2016-05-14T18:59:54 < jpa-> also some STM32's have separate PLL for I2S.. maybe that can drive the SPI also 2016-05-14T19:00:34 < bvernoux> does anyone here is interested to do some test for a new board include redrivers for USB 2.0 and USB 3.x ? 2016-05-14T19:00:42 < bvernoux> +which include 2016-05-14T19:01:02 < bvernoux> it is mainly interesting for USB 2.0 HS and to test longer USB cable > 5M 2016-05-14T19:04:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.100.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-14T19:04:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T19:13:07 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T19:14:16 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-14T19:21:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-14T19:25:29 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T19:37:23 < Rickta59> thanks jpa, yeah the one i have doesn't have i2s 2016-05-14T19:41:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.3] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T20:19:40 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-14T20:41:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-14T20:45:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T20:46:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-14T20:54:05 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T20:59:31 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T21:17:02 < karlp> so, who's going to win eurovision then? 2016-05-14T21:20:35 < Steffanx> Dutchland 2016-05-14T21:20:39 < Steffanx> Douwe Bob 2016-05-14T21:26:33 < Sync> romania 2016-05-14T21:28:47 < Laurenceb_> Russia 2016-05-14T21:28:57 < Laurenceb_> Putin ftw 2016-05-14T21:35:48 < Steffanx> Who has the most stupid act karlp? 2016-05-14T21:39:30 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-14T21:46:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-14T21:46:34 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T21:49:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-14T22:06:37 < PaulFertser> Is eurovision a thing in EU? I thought it's some marginal competition of lame wannabe popstars and it's not widely known/watched. I thought only russians are stupid enough to talk about it that much. 2016-05-14T22:07:35 < Steffanx> Yes it's a thing, too much of a thing actually, PaulFertser 2016-05-14T22:07:41 < Sync> ^ 2016-05-14T22:09:14 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: amazing. I wonder how people can be interested in that event and yet the winners are usually not having any serious commercial success after it. 2016-05-14T22:10:57 < Laurenceb_> I could not care less 2016-05-14T22:11:02 < Steffanx> Probably because it's not really a contest. East europe votes for russia/eastern europe etc. 2016-05-14T22:11:22 < Getty> PaulFertser: it is the europewide "call ins" 2016-05-14T22:11:30 < Steffanx> lol now you know how that feels Laurenceb_ 2016-05-14T22:11:47 < Getty> PaulFertser: like comparing ;) 2016-05-14T22:12:32 < Steffanx> Also it depends on the country PaulFertser. The last few years dutchland sent people that were actually well known in dutchland 2016-05-14T22:12:48 < Steffanx> and kinda succesful 2016-05-14T22:13:27 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: I remember russia sending "tatu" that was already a worldwide (esp japs :) ) success and yet they lost. 2016-05-14T22:14:18 < Steffanx> and its not that that man/woman from greece could ever be a success after she/he won the contest. 2016-05-14T22:14:26 < PaulFertser> Getty: but what and who is comparing? I do not get it. 2016-05-14T22:14:45 < Getty> PaulFertser: you still talked about eurovision, right? (i had a small disconnect in between) 2016-05-14T22:14:51 < PaulFertser> Getty: yep 2016-05-14T22:15:14 < Getty> PaulFertser: yeah its like the only moment where all europeans hear "directly" what all europeans think about the seen performance 2016-05-14T22:15:17 < Getty> like really "bare" 2016-05-14T22:15:19 < Getty> with the call in concept 2016-05-14T22:15:32 < Getty> its like...... more interesting as "random judges given random opinions" 2016-05-14T22:15:46 < Getty> but in the end noone gives a shit ;) 2016-05-14T22:17:10 < PaulFertser> Getty: I fail to understand it. If you like some music, you buy it or you "last.fm" it etc. The result is directly measurable. And this "contest" seems to measure nothing and yet manages to attract public. With the worst kind of pop music in existance. Damn, I really fail in understanding humans. 2016-05-14T22:17:31 < Getty> PaulFertser: well its like gladiators 2016-05-14T22:17:43 < Getty> PaulFertser: every country sends their "gladiator" 2016-05-14T22:17:51 < Getty> they fight till death, and all cheer the winner 2016-05-14T22:17:58 < Steffanx> How the people from russia get chosen PaulFertser? 2016-05-14T22:18:18 < PaulFertser> Getty: fight with that super-lame pop?.. 2016-05-14T22:18:51 < Getty> PaulFertser: yeah.... look.... the vote count counts....... not the actual.... quality.. count 2016-05-14T22:19:06 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: I'm not following but I have an impression it's some semi-fair "primaries" organised by a state tv channel. 2016-05-14T22:19:07 < Steffanx> I've no clue how the dutchguy from this year is chosen. I'm pretty sure it was just a very very select group of people that selected the "right" person for this year. 2016-05-14T22:19:32 < Getty> in germany its always a big event with also phone voting 2016-05-14T22:19:51 < Getty> as usual, german take gladiator fights pretty serious ;) 2016-05-14T22:21:42 < PaulFertser> I'm not sure but it seems this year's russian "performer" is popular and well-known among general public. 2016-05-14T22:22:07 < Steffanx> And you never ever won the contest Getty? :P 2016-05-14T22:22:29 < Getty> Steffanx: i think we won often enough... let me acutally check 2016-05-14T22:22:52 < Getty> ok 2 times ;) 2016-05-14T22:23:20 < Getty> Steffanx: but for excuse: we are disabled here..... germans and music... you know.... not like our prime topic ;) 2016-05-14T22:23:56 < Steffanx> How much is the fish <3 2016-05-14T22:24:00 < Getty> heheheheheh 2016-05-14T22:24:29 < Getty> i hope you know he made it specific that way, right? ;) scooter is like one of the most intelligent in the music scene, maximizing his income 2016-05-14T22:24:36 < Getty> thats why he made so....................... simple songs 2016-05-14T22:24:39 < Getty> HYPER HYPER! 2016-05-14T22:24:45 < PaulFertser> Getty: Helloween, Scorpions, Ramstein, Bling Guardian, Grave Digger, Gamma Ray come to mind instantly 2016-05-14T22:25:32 < Getty> PaulFertser: i dont say we suck totally... ;) we have exceptions 2016-05-14T22:25:34 < Getty> and rammstein suxx 2016-05-14T22:25:43 < PaulFertser> UDO 2016-05-14T22:25:49 * Getty runs 2016-05-14T22:25:56 < Getty> if you now say Modern Talking 2016-05-14T22:25:59 < Getty> then i punch you in the face 2016-05-14T22:26:38 < PaulFertser> Ahaha it was popular in the USSR but it's not anything I can listen to. 2016-05-14T22:26:53 < Getty> the guy from modern talking is the master of GEMA 2016-05-14T22:27:09 < Steffanx> Also alphaville wasn't too bad, so many good germans Getty :P 2016-05-14T22:27:13 < Getty> like he is the guy who decides with GEMA how the share of income is splitted under the artists... big asshole 2016-05-14T22:27:55 < Getty> yeah of course we also produce "some" good music 2016-05-14T22:27:58 < Getty> but its a rare thing 2016-05-14T22:29:12 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-14T22:29:37 < ReadError> PaulFertser what flags could I set to be able to pull nRST low until I release it? like unlimited assert pulldown 2016-05-14T22:32:11 < PaulFertser> ReadError: "reset_config srst_only" and then you can do "jtag_reset 0 1" to pull it low, "jtag_reset 0 0" to release. I think it'll work in SWD mode too. 2016-05-14T22:33:54 < PaulFertser> Getty: I do not actually listen to any of the mentioned bands. But they're really well known so saying Germany is not present in the international pop music scene is an understatement imho. 2016-05-14T22:34:00 < ReadError> ok this maybe what i was confused about 2016-05-14T22:34:15 < ReadError> do I need to use trst and srst together? 2016-05-14T22:34:25 < ReadError> or just srst is fine for swd 2016-05-14T22:36:56 < PaulFertser> ReadError: for swd trst doesn't make any sense. So do not connect it and do not specify it in reset_config. 2016-05-14T22:37:26 < ReadError> ok so i was doing it right on that 2016-05-14T22:37:43 < PaulFertser> Doesn't work? 2016-05-14T22:37:48 < PaulFertser> Or are you using stlink? 2016-05-14T22:38:20 < ReadError> reset_config srst_nogate connect_assert_srst 2016-05-14T22:38:59 < ReadError> i tried a few different things, couldnt get it to pull the line down 2016-05-14T22:39:03 < ReadError> (jlink) 2016-05-14T22:39:09 < PaulFertser> ReadError: nogate doesn't play any role here, also if you're using stm32, target configs already define nogate. Also, connect_assert_srst is a noop until you actually specify srst_only in reset_config. 2016-05-14T22:39:16 < PaulFertser> Should work with jlink. 2016-05-14T22:39:57 < ReadError> ohh so jset_reset for swd, didnt know is that would work 2016-05-14T22:41:00 < PaulFertser> ReadError: jtag_reset, yes, should work. SWD support is piggy-backed to jtag which was implemented years before. 2016-05-14T22:42:23 < kakimir> herro 2016-05-14T22:45:22 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-14T22:46:10 < kakimir> how it's grind'n? 2016-05-14T22:59:34 < kakimir> it's summer weather finally here 2016-05-14T22:59:42 < kakimir> rain and 10centigrade 2016-05-14T23:00:03 < kakimir> it last about 2monts 2016-05-14T23:00:10 < kakimir> then it's hot for 2 weeks 2016-05-14T23:06:04 < kakimir> aliens. 2016-05-14T23:11:27 < kakimir> ohsix: you have any musics? 2016-05-14T23:14:44 -!- Guest68390 [~rager@54.191.201.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-14T23:39:46 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-14T23:49:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-14T23:59:02 < Laurenceb_> ubeam is the future 2016-05-14T23:59:05 < Laurenceb_> ubeam is life --- Day changed Sun May 15 2016 2016-05-15T00:06:36 < Laurenceb_> is this eurovision crap on tonight? 2016-05-15T00:09:15 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHxyweJcZI 2016-05-15T00:09:47 < Laurenceb_> so pro 2016-05-15T00:18:05 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/meredithperry/status/656680281701638144?ref_src=twsrc^tfw 2016-05-15T00:25:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-c2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T00:45:03 < upgrdman> "no refunds" http://i.imgur.com/OIDepqW.jpg 2016-05-15T00:54:36 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/4lr0Yzy.gifv 2016-05-15T00:54:57 < Fleck> http://www.marketingdonut.co.uk/sites/default/files/who_cares_230x230.png 2016-05-15T01:01:42 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T01:17:17 -!- Guest99986 is now known as bourbon 2016-05-15T01:22:51 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-15T01:23:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T01:23:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T01:38:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T01:38:52 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T01:39:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T01:49:35 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-15T01:54:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T01:55:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T01:57:20 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T01:57:34 < Tectu> emeb_mac, you around? 2016-05-15T01:59:49 < emeb_mac> Tectu: yes 2016-05-15T02:00:08 < Tectu> emeb_mac, dongs told me that I may annoy you with diptrace questions ;) 2016-05-15T02:00:30 < emeb_mac> Tectu: I use that 2016-05-15T02:00:42 < Tectu> emeb_mac, I'm working with it for the first time 2016-05-15T02:01:43 < Tectu> emeb_mac, just about to do the first few traces... I'm somewhat confused with the netclass magic. I just want to manually route the entire board. I need races of different thicknesses. Apparently I can't just define a new net-class and manually use that for a net? Do I really have to explicitly assign a net class to each net?! 2016-05-15T02:02:02 < zyp> that's racist 2016-05-15T02:02:50 < emeb_mac> Tectu: I just use a couple net classes and assign them as required - power, digital signals, etc. 2016-05-15T02:03:18 < Tectu> emeb_mac, do I have to assign them in the "NetClasses" dialog? I'm not that happy with those net numbers. 2016-05-15T02:05:26 < Tectu> hi zyp 2016-05-15T02:05:58 < emeb_mac> Tectu: you can name the nets on the schematic 2016-05-15T02:06:48 < Tectu> emeb_mac, may you tell me how I can do that? 2016-05-15T02:08:03 < emeb_mac> Tectu: just right-click on the nets in schematic and the name is the top item on the pop-up 2016-05-15T02:08:14 < emeb_mac> select that and edit 2016-05-15T02:08:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-c2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-15T02:10:20 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-15T02:13:05 < Tectu> emeb_mac, that will take some time to get used too. All other routing software I used so far was pressing a key to loop through the predefined widths 2016-05-15T02:13:52 < emeb_mac> Tectu: Yeah 2016-05-15T02:14:18 < Tectu> emeb_mac, anyway, so far I like DipTrace (coming from KiCAD) 2016-05-15T02:14:39 < emeb_mac> They seem somewhat similar 2016-05-15T02:14:47 < Tectu> "somewhat" 2016-05-15T02:14:53 < Tectu> the devil lies in the detail 2016-05-15T02:15:01 < Tectu> anyway, thanks for helping me out! 2016-05-15T02:15:03 < Tectu> movie time. 2016-05-15T02:15:10 < emeb_mac> Tectu: the flood fill seems very much the same. 2016-05-15T02:15:54 < Tectu> emeb_mac, nets can only be named in the PCB thing, not in the schematics thing, right? 2016-05-15T02:16:15 < emeb_mac> Tectu: I believe that's true, but I haven't tried 2016-05-15T02:16:33 < emeb_mac> to name in the pcb editor 2016-05-15T02:16:42 < zyp> uh, what? 2016-05-15T02:17:27 < zyp> Tectu, that doesn't make sense 2016-05-15T02:17:51 < emeb_mac> oh wait - I name nets in the schematic, not the pcb editor 2016-05-15T02:17:55 < Tectu> zyp, I know - that's why I had to ask. 2016-05-15T02:18:04 < Tectu> emeb_mac, well good. How? 2016-05-15T02:18:09 < Tectu> because this is pissing me off 2016-05-15T02:18:09 < zyp> net labels? 2016-05-15T02:18:14 < zyp> that's how it works in most other software 2016-05-15T02:18:34 < zyp> (that I've tried) 2016-05-15T02:18:34 < Tectu> apparently placing the ground symbol doesn't give the net a name then? 2016-05-15T02:18:47 < emeb_mac> Tectu: what I said above - right click on the net in the schematic and select the top entry to edit the name 2016-05-15T02:18:52 < Tectu> I thought that power symbols would create net names 2016-05-15T02:18:55 < Tectu> but maybe I'm talking shit 2016-05-15T02:19:01 < zyp> in altium they does 2016-05-15T02:19:37 < Tectu> emeb_mac, may you enlighten me about the "Rename related wires only" checkbox in the renaming dialog? 2016-05-15T02:19:46 < Tectu> zyp, hopefully not the only reason why it costs 7x as much ;) 2016-05-15T02:20:23 < zyp> well, duh :p 2016-05-15T02:21:19 < Tectu> holy shit. apparently each net has it's own "Connect nets by name" checkbox that is disabled by default. wtf. 2016-05-15T02:21:44 < emeb_mac> Tectu: which version you have? 2016-05-15T02:22:07 < Tectu> emeb_mac, 3.0.0.1 2016-05-15T02:22:31 < Tectu> which inappropriately reminds me of "Target 3001!" 2016-05-15T02:22:38 < emeb_mac> Tectu: I haven't installed that one yet 2016-05-15T02:23:17 < Tectu> I see 2016-05-15T02:23:28 < Tectu> well, I'm gonna try fiddling around with it a bit while watching a movie 2016-05-15T02:23:30 < Tectu> thanks for your help! 2016-05-15T02:23:33 < Tectu> much appreciated 2016-05-15T02:25:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-15T02:29:47 < upgrdman> is there something like printf() that will also let you specify text color? im doing that in some code and not sure of a clean way to specify color in the format string :( 2016-05-15T02:31:22 < upgrdman> "im doing that" meaning i wrote my own printf()-like code, not that i want to do this with an existing printf() 2016-05-15T02:35:26 < Rob235_> could this transfer go any slower? 2016-05-15T02:36:02 < upgrdman> transfer between what 2016-05-15T02:36:15 < Rob235_> hard drive to hard drive 2016-05-15T02:36:23 < Rob235_> 25MB/s 2016-05-15T02:37:20 < Rob235_> 70GB left (An hour remaining) 2016-05-15T02:40:52 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-15T02:56:38 < Rob235_> that's interesting but I doubt I'll do anything with it 2016-05-15T02:59:50 < Rob235_> there's no way to invert your selection when selecting files is there? 2016-05-15T02:59:52 < Rob235_> in windows10 2016-05-15T03:01:08 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T03:01:09 < Rob235_> I want to select the smaller set of files/folders of downloads still going and invert to select the stuff that's done 2016-05-15T03:01:53 < Rob235_> nice, thanks 2016-05-15T03:02:56 < Rob235_> there isn't an edit menu, I guess they put all that stuff in the ribbons 2016-05-15T03:06:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T03:08:04 < Laurenceb_> powered by ubeam 2016-05-15T03:08:08 < Laurenceb_> ubeam is now a meme 2016-05-15T03:08:53 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: thats NOT le current year 2016-05-15T03:09:20 < Laurenceb_> come on man its the current year, blogin like it's 2016 2016-05-15T03:09:41 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T03:09:54 < Laurenceb_> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/2/26/Johnoliverthecurrentyear.jpg/300px-Johnoliverthecurrentyear.jpg 2016-05-15T03:10:01 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T03:10:31 < PeterM> http://pastebin.com/seybGFkg 2016-05-15T03:11:29 < PeterM> dunno, havent been today - not feelin great 2016-05-15T03:16:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-15T03:18:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T03:23:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T03:24:10 < PeterM> re eurovision http://satwcomic.com/eurovision-game 2016-05-15T03:29:18 < Laurenceb_> what are you talking about, I drag kids behind my truck every day 2016-05-15T03:29:27 < Laurenceb_> HOLYSHIT EUROVISION 2016-05-15T03:29:50 < Laurenceb_> they managed to fit in a Putin bashing 2016-05-15T03:29:53 < Laurenceb_> this is unreal 2016-05-15T03:31:52 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-15T03:31:59 < Laurenceb_> BashPutinVision 2016-05-15T03:33:23 < PeterM> i never understood how australia got into eurovision with a south korean 2016-05-15T03:35:02 < Laurenceb_> what the heck 2016-05-15T03:35:15 < Laurenceb_> how do you even use it? 2016-05-15T03:35:31 < Laurenceb_> specify shape and material density? 2016-05-15T03:35:38 < PeterM> stick it up your bum 2016-05-15T03:40:55 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if laser quest type shit could be played with VR like vive 2016-05-15T03:41:12 < Laurenceb_> so you have a big warehouse thats physically modelled on some game level 2016-05-15T03:41:26 < Laurenceb_> every literally runs around shooting with wireless vive shit 2016-05-15T03:41:44 < Laurenceb_> rending the textures on the walls and everything 2016-05-15T03:42:36 < Laurenceb_> or have it software configurable with motorized partitions 2016-05-15T03:42:46 < Laurenceb_> so you can "load" new levels 2016-05-15T03:46:20 < Laurenceb_> well you would 2016-05-15T03:46:40 < Laurenceb_> this would be like the laser games - you pay to piss about in an warehouse 2016-05-15T03:47:02 < Laurenceb_> shit this could actually make money lol 2016-05-15T03:47:55 < Laurenceb_> solve the "wireless" bit by sticking rendering PC into a backpack 2016-05-15T03:48:08 < Laurenceb_> then just use wifi for networking 2016-05-15T03:48:23 < PeterM> hehehe, he said wifi 2016-05-15T03:48:45 < Laurenceb_> no funny PeterM 2016-05-15T03:49:45 < PeterM> you'd want some super accurate telemetry - i can jsut imaginepeople walking into the walls and shit all the time 2016-05-15T03:50:48 < Laurenceb_> the walls would be the game walls 2016-05-15T03:51:04 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-15T03:51:21 < Laurenceb_> I guess you could have software "walls" and some sort of anti cheat feature 2016-05-15T03:51:32 < Laurenceb_> electrodes to balls or something 2016-05-15T03:51:37 < PeterM> lol, put TENS units on people 2016-05-15T03:51:50 < PeterM> you got shot TENS TENS TENS TENS TENS 2016-05-15T03:51:59 < Laurenceb_> genius 2016-05-15T03:52:31 < Laurenceb_> this could be better than paintball 2016-05-15T03:58:23 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-05-15T03:58:46 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-15T03:58:57 < Laurenceb_> or just stick people in giant hamster wheels 2016-05-15T03:59:16 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eV-MMm8Z7s 2016-05-15T03:59:25 < Laurenceb_> beedun 2016-05-15T03:59:55 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, you said hamsterwheels and i thought of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKEuQ__9rmk 2016-05-15T04:00:18 < Laurenceb_> lol 2016-05-15T04:01:24 < PeterM> also, all vr headsets must have googly eyes on the outside 2016-05-15T04:02:27 < Laurenceb_> holy shit she is innovating 2016-05-15T04:02:33 < Laurenceb_> such innovation 2016-05-15T04:03:19 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T04:03:21 < PeterM> im not sure if Laurenceb_ has finally gone fuckign nuts or not 2016-05-15T04:03:55 < Laurenceb_> PeterM: but this is my sanest idea for ages 2016-05-15T04:04:20 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, has the lotion and is upstairs innovating 2016-05-15T04:04:28 < Laurenceb_> eww 2016-05-15T04:04:42 < Laurenceb_> my other idea is container freight via airship 2016-05-15T04:05:22 < PeterM> sorry, what? 2016-05-15T04:05:52 < Laurenceb_> 5 mile long, 1 mile diameter airship carrying 50,000 containers 2016-05-15T04:06:09 < Laurenceb_> no need for new Panama canal or any of that shit 2016-05-15T04:07:03 < PeterM> how about a real big quad, with say a 25hp motor, with hydraulic pump, and all hydraulic motors with proportional, directional valves with electronic control 2016-05-15T04:07:19 < PeterM> maybe bigger than 25hp tho 2016-05-15T04:07:26 < Laurenceb_> yeah how about quadcopters 2016-05-15T04:07:28 < Laurenceb_> /troll 2016-05-15T04:07:51 < PeterM> shit will fly for more than 3 mins tho 2016-05-15T04:07:52 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: hydrogen filled with marine diesel power 2016-05-15T04:08:11 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T04:08:15 < Laurenceb_> anyway I was going to do a presentation on this at 2017 airship conference 2016-05-15T04:08:20 < Laurenceb_> if I can be bothered 2016-05-15T04:09:14 < Laurenceb_> yeah maybe I will set up a company 2016-05-15T04:09:28 < Laurenceb_> but only big airships work 2016-05-15T04:09:40 < Laurenceb_> efficiency goes up with size 2016-05-15T04:10:01 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-05-15T04:10:11 < Laurenceb_> this is for cheap global freight 2016-05-15T04:10:24 < Laurenceb_> lul that would be very weird 2016-05-15T04:10:31 < Laurenceb_> floating city 2016-05-15T04:10:54 < Laurenceb_> why would libertarians want to live in an airship colony 2016-05-15T04:11:04 < Laurenceb_> sounds like communist utopia to me 2016-05-15T04:11:04 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, this is probably your type of thing, do you know of any websites that curate "bad science" - not bad science as such, jsut dumb science, like research itno how tin foil hats can potentially make hte governments mind control rays stronger rather than blockign them 2016-05-15T04:11:37 < Laurenceb_> not really 2016-05-15T04:11:40 < Laurenceb_> nasaspaceflight 2016-05-15T04:11:48 < PeterM> nah 2016-05-15T04:11:56 < Laurenceb_> and anything to do with Alex Jones 2016-05-15T04:11:59 < Laurenceb_> oh wait 2016-05-15T04:12:01 < Laurenceb_> rense.com 2016-05-15T04:12:16 < Laurenceb_> and jnaudin.free.fr/ 2016-05-15T04:12:25 < Laurenceb_> but they believe their crazy shit 2016-05-15T04:12:43 < Laurenceb_> but more importantly 2016-05-15T04:12:47 < Laurenceb_> does anyone used Rust 2016-05-15T04:12:49 < Laurenceb_> *use 2016-05-15T04:13:03 < Laurenceb_> booo no jnaudin since 2013 2016-05-15T04:14:01 < Laurenceb_> lul I will probably be on there soon then 2016-05-15T04:14:08 < Laurenceb_> Capillary refill timing 2016-05-15T04:16:10 < Laurenceb_> I will be homeless 2016-05-15T04:16:16 < PeterM> oh, i dont mean conspiracy dipshit stuff, i mean like, real hard sceince, well documented, thoroughly tested, theoretically sound stuff. but the research should be into dumb stuff 2016-05-15T04:16:17 < Laurenceb_> and die on the streets 2016-05-15T04:18:12 < Laurenceb_> reading vice.com 2016-05-15T04:18:27 < Laurenceb_> sealand is still going iirc 2016-05-15T04:18:56 < Laurenceb_> a micronation doesnt sound very libertarian friendly 2016-05-15T04:19:34 < Laurenceb_> I'm fairly Libertarian 2016-05-15T04:19:49 < Laurenceb_> but I don't think a micronation would work under anything but communism 2016-05-15T04:20:08 < Laurenceb_> or Nazism 2016-05-15T04:20:17 * Laurenceb_ recruits some /pol/acks 2016-05-15T04:20:32 < Laurenceb_> they will help me build a practical micronation 2016-05-15T04:20:47 < PeterM> sure it would, you could do a dictatorship no worries m8 2016-05-15T04:20:54 < Laurenceb_> then they will all disagree in seconds and it will be chaos 2016-05-15T04:21:19 < Laurenceb_> libertarian micronation will last about as long as it takes all the residents to turn up 2016-05-15T04:21:44 < PeterM> a libertarian micronation will have a government so small you cant even see it 2016-05-15T04:21:51 < PeterM> literally 2016-05-15T04:24:10 < Laurenceb_> how do you get all the libertarians to live in a tiny nation 2016-05-15T04:24:16 < Laurenceb_> without massive RAGE 2016-05-15T04:24:30 < Laurenceb_> dumb 2016-05-15T04:24:42 < Laurenceb_> if they were communists or nazis it might make sense 2016-05-15T04:25:05 < Laurenceb_> then they can all suck their leaders cock and love it 2016-05-15T04:25:07 < PeterM> Laurenceb_, jsut tell them it isnt a nation, tell them it is unclaimed land 2016-05-15T04:25:26 < PeterM> libertarians wouldnt want to live in a nation, they want to be freeeee 2016-05-15T04:26:49 < Laurenceb_> thats a pretty stupid analogy 2016-05-15T04:26:49 < karlp> actually, this is how you do eurovision, best song tonight by far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMgW54HBOS0 2016-05-15T04:26:58 < Laurenceb_> as I said I'm pretty Libertarian :P 2016-05-15T04:27:21 < Laurenceb_> respecting peoples personal space is pretty simple as a principle 2016-05-15T04:27:31 < Laurenceb_> not inherently self contradictory 2016-05-15T04:27:52 < Laurenceb_> who cares lol 2016-05-15T04:28:24 < Laurenceb_> some arbitrary distance around you like 50cm 2016-05-15T04:29:17 < Laurenceb_> probably Magno Carta itself lol 2016-05-15T04:29:44 < Laurenceb_> Magna Carta Libertatum 2016-05-15T04:29:49 < Laurenceb_> Libertarian confirmed 2016-05-15T04:30:40 < Laurenceb_> well yes, people who think living in a micronation will result in a non dictatorial regime are pretty silly 2016-05-15T04:31:24 < Laurenceb_> well if they ever did 2016-05-15T04:31:33 < Laurenceb_> check all the nasty Sealand shit 2016-05-15T04:31:50 < Laurenceb_> attacked by pirates and hostages and shit 2016-05-15T04:34:18 < Laurenceb_> to be fair I think they paid the RAF 2016-05-15T04:35:00 < Laurenceb_> yeah, "dual nationality" 2016-05-15T04:35:30 < Laurenceb_> it seems more than a little silly 2016-05-15T04:35:42 < Laurenceb_> weekend nation project 2016-05-15T04:36:58 < Laurenceb_> ##politics 2016-05-15T04:37:09 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ very slightly less insane version 2016-05-15T04:38:54 < Laurenceb_> I get all Libertarian when I rage over stupid shit like smoking bans in public parks 2016-05-15T04:39:35 < Laurenceb_> and for some reason I support stoners rights to get get high 2016-05-15T04:40:22 * Laurenceb_ wonders about in situ body fat extraction with solvents 2016-05-15T04:40:35 < Laurenceb_> might work with meat 2016-05-15T04:44:01 < Laurenceb_> ohsix confirmed as latent fascism 2016-05-15T04:44:22 < Laurenceb_> ok maybe I agree 2016-05-15T04:44:42 < Laurenceb_> your rights are to do whatever you want that doesnt interfere with other peoples rights 2016-05-15T04:45:05 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-15T04:45:13 * Laurenceb_ gets back to raging at matlab 2016-05-15T04:45:17 < Laurenceb_> [S,f,t]=specgram(filtered,2048,250); 2016-05-15T04:45:23 < Laurenceb_> why is size of S 1024 2016-05-15T04:45:25 < Laurenceb_> RAGEEEE 2016-05-15T04:47:14 < Laurenceb_> I think its chopping off one end of fft 2016-05-15T04:47:33 < Laurenceb_> pgram=ifft(S.*conj(S)); 2016-05-15T04:47:48 < Laurenceb_> wait no 2016-05-15T04:47:49 < Laurenceb_> S=[S;fliplr(conj(S)')']; 2016-05-15T04:47:56 < Laurenceb_> arg this shit is still broken 2016-05-15T04:48:00 < Laurenceb_> ok lol 2016-05-15T04:50:12 < Laurenceb_> yeah maybe 2016-05-15T04:50:29 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying to plot a periodogram 2016-05-15T04:50:38 < Laurenceb_> yeah seen that stuff 2016-05-15T04:50:41 < Laurenceb_> ooh thanks fo rlink 2016-05-15T04:50:52 < Laurenceb_> periodogram should be 2016-05-15T04:51:07 < Laurenceb_> ifft(fft(data).*conj(fft(data))) 2016-05-15T04:51:14 < Laurenceb_> but it needs to be windowed 2016-05-15T04:51:20 < Laurenceb_> maybe I just need a loop lol 2016-05-15T04:51:23 < Laurenceb_> oh shit yeah 2016-05-15T04:51:25 < Laurenceb_> thanks 2016-05-15T04:51:33 < Laurenceb_> I think thats a matlab function 2016-05-15T04:52:12 < Laurenceb_> or octave http://octave.sourceforge.net/signal/function/rceps.html 2016-05-15T04:53:06 < Laurenceb_> would still need a loop to do get contour plot type output, but thats prob what I want 2016-05-15T04:53:15 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-05-15T04:57:49 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping 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< ReadError> i ordered the fluke 289 2016-05-15T06:25:02 < ReadError> first higher end DMM 2016-05-15T06:26:02 < ReadError> got a fluke 115 now 2016-05-15T06:30:48 < ReadError> nah i didnt 2016-05-15T06:31:26 < ReadError> i was conflicted between the 289 and the OG 87v 2016-05-15T06:31:44 < ReadError> but the extended display seemed kinda useful 2016-05-15T06:32:02 < ReadError> and i think there are a few more features on the 289 2016-05-15T06:38:52 < ReadError> ohsix cant find "only in china" vid 2016-05-15T06:48:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:344f:701e:3dec:7020] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T07:21:14 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:2c19:b41:5ff6:3c77] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T07:30:18 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T07:32:43 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:417:2e6:9835:1411] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T07:33:28 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 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or 5 sample rolling median filter would be better? 2016-05-15T11:46:48 < ReadError> yea i just mashed in my own 2016-05-15T11:46:54 < upgrdman> f0 if that makes a diff. it's a SAR ADC, not the delta sigma one in f3 or whatever 2016-05-15T11:46:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.100.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T11:47:00 < ReadError> but if theres something better id like to know also 2016-05-15T11:47:14 < upgrdman> ReadError, mashed? 2016-05-15T11:47:26 < ReadError> hacked, did it in software 2016-05-15T11:47:35 < ReadError> basically a moving average 2016-05-15T11:47:48 < upgrdman> k. avg of how many samples 2016-05-15T11:48:24 < ReadError> well I coordinate that with how often im using the data 2016-05-15T11:48:56 < ReadError> basically i let the adc thread run and its in a ring buffer 2016-05-15T11:49:07 < upgrdman> lol http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/kindle/merch/2016/F/f-NS-gw3-3000x600._CB294531398_.jpg 2016-05-15T11:49:16 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-15T11:49:38 < ReadError> no crazy math or anything though 2016-05-15T11:55:11 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T12:00:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T12:01:00 < Tectu> dongs, you there? 2016-05-15T12:02:41 < zyp> Tectu, is diptrace that hard to use? :p 2016-05-15T12:02:53 < jpa-> he's busy rewanking boreds 2016-05-15T12:03:05 < dongs> sup 2016-05-15T12:03:38 < Tectu> sup I'm super confused by trace widths. 2016-05-15T12:03:40 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-onqlswrzjqniqrgu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-15T12:03:50 < Tectu> dongs, those netclasses are killing me. 2016-05-15T12:03:55 < Tectu> zyp, well either that or I suck ;) 2016-05-15T12:04:03 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T12:04:09 -!- Peter_M 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Vcc, some components require small traces and some fat ones. But apparently I can only assign one track width per net class? 2016-05-15T12:06:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T12:08:07 < dongs> hmpf, i don rememeber. i dont think i ever =used it to restrict width 2016-05-15T12:08:52 < Tectu> dongs, I don't want to restrict width. I just want to be able to use more than one width. 2016-05-15T12:10:25 < dongs> just opened arandom board 2016-05-15T12:10:27 < dongs> i do haev a netclass tehre 2016-05-15T12:10:29 < dongs> checkinghow it wroked 2016-05-15T12:10:40 < dongs> i hve different width in it... 2016-05-15T12:10:47 < dongs> VCC5V class 2016-05-15T12:11:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-15T12:12:34 < dongs> start routuing 2016-05-15T12:12:36 < dongs> 'and ctrl+w 2016-05-15T12:12:38 < dongs> and choose custom 2016-05-15T12:12:41 < dongs> and select whatever wiedth 2016-05-15T12:13:53 < Tectu> dongs, but did you create them under Route -> Net Classes... or under Route -> Trace Template... ? 2016-05-15T12:14:03 < dongs> the fuck does it matter 2016-05-15T12:14:08 < dongs> ONCE Y OU START ROUTING Y TOU CAN CHANGE THE FUCKING WIDTH 2016-05-15T12:14:14 < dongs> from netclass width to wahtever the fuck you want 2016-05-15T12:14:34 < dongs> thre's a min/max width in netclass 2016-05-15T12:14:53 < jpa-> sounds like it works exactly like in kicad 2016-05-15T12:17:11 < dongs> route>tracetemplate is different shit 2016-05-15T12:17:17 < dongs> wehn i said netclass I meant netclass 2016-05-15T12:17:20 < dongs> and not afuckign trace templtae 2016-05-15T12:17:53 < Tectu> dongs, aaaaaaaah.... I set min and max to the same :P 2016-05-15T12:18:28 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T12:18:51 < dongs> gj 2016-05-15T12:19:20 < Tectu> dongs, just wondering... when would I use trace template rather than the netclass thingy? 2016-05-15T12:22:54 < dongs> um Tectu tehy're completely diferent 2016-05-15T12:23:14 < dongs> trace shit is shared for all pcbs 2016-05-15T12:23:26 < dongs> its just templates for random use 2016-05-15T12:23:32 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T12:24:30 < zyp> I don't get why you have to predefine trace width 2016-05-15T12:24:58 < zyp> I've never done that, in altium I just change it as I go 2016-05-15T12:25:46 < zyp> the only rule I care about is minimum width 2016-05-15T12:25:51 < Tectu> zyp, that's what I expected too. 2016-05-15T12:26:02 < Tectu> thanks dongs! 2016-05-15T12:26:45 < Tectu> zyp, that's what diptrace does too. I was just too stupid. 2016-05-15T12:40:38 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T12:44:44 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-15T12:46:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-15T12:57:16 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T13:00:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T13:01:43 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD2537D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-15T13:04:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T13:08:03 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-15T13:11:36 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T13:23:55 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T13:52:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T13:54:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T14:16:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-15T14:26:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-15T14:58:14 < PeterM> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rELR4F15yRY/TGsPGemqDFI/AAAAAAAAA-8/TVqGOjc08j4/s1600/Mavis_Beacon.jpg 2016-05-15T15:03:32 < dongs> http://i.4cdn.org/v/1463267038817.jpg what garbage lawl 2016-05-15T15:04:00 < PeterM> what why vsync on 60hz 2016-05-15T15:10:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T15:11:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T15:19:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T15:24:08 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T15:28:17 < Getty> PaulFertser: just read the news about ESC, oh dear, they dropped the phone voting and used jurors who picked the contestant out of nazi-ukraine...... just for political reasons..... yeah i can imagine why they all complained 2016-05-15T15:31:31 < Rob235> hmm 52 avg fps 2016-05-15T15:32:21 < Rob235> that was alpha though 2016-05-15T15:34:15 < Rob235> I'm gonna have to overclock my stuff soon 2016-05-15T15:39:35 < PaulFertser> Getty: as a matter of fact, I do not care at all. Also, afaict current ukraine is not really nazi, the majority doesn't support ultra-right-wing parties there. 2016-05-15T15:40:14 < Getty> PaulFertser: well they make the government right now, and the people actually even made a revolution to put them in place, so ;)..... my condulences are pretty low for them 2016-05-15T15:41:00 < Getty> bringing someone into the government who took an AK-47 into congress.... yeah no, sorry, can't handle that ;) 2016-05-15T15:44:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T15:47:32 < PaulFertser> Getty: btw, AK-47 is ancient, it's present only in museums and such. People there were fighting absolute BS corrupted useless janukovich, they needed to get rid of him. Unfortunately, the pendulum swung too far and some nazis got some power as the result. I hope it doesn't actually match what people there want in the long run. 2016-05-15T15:49:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-15T15:49:25 < ReadError> wtf 2016-05-15T15:49:33 < ReadError> when did steam start selling streaming video 2016-05-15T15:49:43 < PaulFertser> http://politica-ua.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/novyj-xit-ot-rustv-28-11-2014.jpg certainly not ak-47. And certainly wtf. 2016-05-15T15:50:34 < PaulFertser> But it's not real, it's a digitally altered image. 2016-05-15T15:50:52 < Getty> PaulFertser: we can just hope, sadly i feel not one bit of motivation of the people to remove that power or cleanup the situation 2016-05-15T15:57:53 < Getty> PaulFertser: that is not what i meant 2016-05-15T16:02:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-15T16:02:18 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Looking-for-computer-hardware-engineer/ 2016-05-15T16:03:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.195] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T16:08:46 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T16:14:17 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-15T16:38:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T16:43:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T16:45:46 < PeterM> DDDD 2016-05-15T16:49:14 < englishman> good morning shedchats 2016-05-15T16:49:38 < englishman> dongs: whats with r9 not sucking, this graph is racist 2016-05-15T16:50:07 < PeterM> some joke about being green with nv 2016-05-15T16:50:28 < englishman> also 1080p30 with titan, lol this game must really be shitty 2016-05-15T16:50:44 < Laurenceb_> cuckshed? 2016-05-15T16:51:06 < dongs> carmack keeps insisting on using opengl 2016-05-15T16:51:26 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gevI96XqAKc 2016-05-15T16:51:29 < englishman> is he doing video games again, after sucking at rocketry 2016-05-15T16:52:05 < dongs> is it called doom5 or wat 2016-05-15T16:52:54 < PeterM> http://bit.ly/1VEeDI5 2016-05-15T16:53:12 < PeterM> dongs its jsut called doom they dropped the numebr, like everythignthese days ughk 2016-05-15T16:53:30 < dongs> http://www.gamespot.com/videos/battling-hell-knights-doom-ultra-60fps-gameplay-ge/2300-6432130/ 2016-05-15T16:53:33 < dongs> i see their pallete is still samea 2016-05-15T16:53:35 < PeterM> also, release version of the game is rpetty polished, runs better than what that set of graphs show 2016-05-15T16:53:36 < dongs> brown and black 2016-05-15T16:54:08 < dongs> if this trash cant play 60fps in 2016, i call retarded lazy coding 2016-05-15T16:54:36 < englishman> thanks for the 30 second ad dongs 2016-05-15T16:55:00 < dongs> about college football?? 2016-05-15T16:55:15 < englishman> i got some other shitty fps 2016-05-15T16:55:20 < dongs> laff 2016-05-15T16:55:30 < dongs> anyway 2016-05-15T16:55:32 < dongs> from taht video 2016-05-15T16:55:35 < dongs> it looks fucking awful 2016-05-15T16:56:30 < englishman> wonder how long til its f2p 2016-05-15T16:56:31 < dongs> bedtime 2016-05-15T16:56:37 < dongs> wat 2016-05-15T16:56:48 < englishman> plz insert coin to use bfg9000 2016-05-15T16:56:56 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T16:56:57 < dongs> microtransactions 2016-05-15T16:56:59 < dongs> k gone 2016-05-15T16:57:15 < englishman> back to sheds 2016-05-15T16:57:45 < englishman> whats new in the shed worlld 2016-05-15T16:57:53 < Laurenceb_> cuckshed 2000 2016-05-15T16:58:15 < Laurenceb_> prepping the bull 2016-05-15T17:02:24 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T17:07:39 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T17:29:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T17:32:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T17:33:06 < Rob235> mmm nutribullet was a good investment 2016-05-15T17:34:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T17:37:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T17:50:54 < Rob235> the librarian is a great movie 2016-05-15T17:53:36 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-15T18:01:14 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T18:09:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-15T18:26:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T18:27:12 < Steffanx> you forgot one important thing Rob235 2016-05-15T18:27:23 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-15T18:27:24 < Steffanx> you should end that sentence with: imho 2016-05-15T18:27:29 < Rob235> haha 2016-05-15T18:31:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-15T18:32:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T18:37:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T18:53:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-15T18:53:52 -!- Guest26261 [~rager@52.38.200.113] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T18:56:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T18:59:54 < Rob235> ouch 12 hour file transfer 2016-05-15T19:05:42 < Rob235> hello 2016-05-15T19:06:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T19:06:34 < PaulFertser> R2COM: hi. are you going to try the new doom? 2016-05-15T19:07:00 < Rob235> how is it 2016-05-15T19:07:35 < Rob235> what specs do you have 2016-05-15T19:07:41 < PaulFertser> Were you playing old doom deathmatches via a dial-up modem? 2016-05-15T19:08:58 < Tectu> ah screw you guys... I waited for doom such a long time... but I am currently drowning in work. Decided not to go for it :/ 2016-05-15T19:09:42 < Laurenceb_> apart from Sweden 2016-05-15T19:09:47 < PaulFertser> I remember there were dedicated fido file-echo-conferences where people posted their matches in uuencoded form. And there was a special dos utility which scanned EMS or whatever part of memory to be able to save the "demo" even if the game ended up abruptly (which the other party was able to force by picking up a parallel phone line and shouting in there until the modems loose connection). 2016-05-15T19:09:48 < Tectu> let me know how it is 2016-05-15T19:09:55 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-15T19:10:14 < Rob235> R2COM: same as me but I have the i7 4790k 2016-05-15T19:17:28 < Tectu> if one can trust steam reviews then it's a "very positive" game 2016-05-15T19:18:28 < Laurenceb_> the fire effects look a bit lame 2016-05-15T19:18:39 < Laurenceb_> and the colour scheme is awful 2016-05-15T19:20:43 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, did you play it yourself or just judging published material? 2016-05-15T19:20:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T19:20:58 < Tectu> (of course you can judge by that - just curious whether you can share gameplay experiences) 2016-05-15T19:21:31 < Laurenceb_> just videos 2016-05-15T19:21:41 < Laurenceb_> I'm not a gaymer 2016-05-15T19:21:53 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-15T19:25:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-15T19:32:18 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T19:39:11 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-15T19:39:37 < Rob235> hmm, it might be worth opening up my computer and connecting this drive in the external enclosure directly to the pc... 2016-05-15T19:45:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-15T19:48:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T19:48:46 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T19:48:48 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-15T19:55:57 < upgrdman> when semihosting an stm32f0 with my linux vm, i did not need to call initialise_monitor_handles(); ... but in windows i found this necessary. any idea why? 2016-05-15T19:56:32 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-15T19:57:49 < upgrdman> hehe, lol. im using an old version. guess i should try something newer 2016-05-15T19:57:49 < upgrdman> GNU ARM Eclipse 64-bits Open On-Chip Debugger 0.9.0-00073-gdd34716-dirty (2015-05-19-09:55) 2016-05-15T20:05:01 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:08:31 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: probably you used standard startup on "linux" and your windows project has -nostartfiles 2016-05-15T20:11:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T20:11:24 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:13:34 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T20:13:40 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:15:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:16:49 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-15T20:19:15 < PaulFertser> ohsix: no, openocd doesn't work with stm8, sorry. 2016-05-15T20:19:35 < PaulFertser> And gdb doesn't support it anyway. 2016-05-15T20:19:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T20:20:08 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:20:55 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:23:33 < englishman> O6?? 2016-05-15T20:23:42 < englishman> Just download stvd and free cosmic 2016-05-15T20:23:55 < englishman> Click debug, shit works, 100% free 2016-05-15T20:32:30 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T20:39:43 < PaulFertser> ohsix: you can use stm8flash to flash the part but debugging will have to be done via uart or leds or whatever. 2016-05-15T20:39:50 < PaulFertser> englishman: on GNU/Linux? 2016-05-15T20:40:46 < englishman> No, is this some sort of artificial requirement for development? 2016-05-15T20:42:31 < PaulFertser> englishman: it's not artificial, but if a developer is using GNU/Linux for all other tasks requiring another OS would complicate matters. 2016-05-15T20:43:03 < PaulFertser> R2COM: usually one installs Qt with all the stuff from their official stuff, it comes with mingw-w64 iirc. 2016-05-15T20:46:26 < PaulFertser> And if you stick to Qt API you shouldn't have any issues on both windows and GNU/Linux afaict. 2016-05-15T20:51:25 < Rob235> why are you all purple? 2016-05-15T20:51:50 < jpa-> Rob235: we are holding our breath because ohsix smells so bad 2016-05-15T20:51:59 < Rob235> jpa-: you are orange 2016-05-15T20:52:49 < Rob235> you must have vomited 2016-05-15T20:53:41 < Steffanx> How do you know its ohsix jpa-? 2016-05-15T20:53:47 < jpa-> Steffanx: good point 2016-05-15T20:53:49 < Rob235> it's always ohsix 2016-05-15T20:53:58 < Steffanx> or those swissers. 2016-05-15T20:54:34 < Steffanx> Hows the project jpa-? 2016-05-15T20:54:45 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T20:55:32 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-15T20:55:33 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-05-15T20:55:47 < jpa-> Steffanx: tracking info missing so dunno when hw arrives; and haven't even begun on the sw yet 2016-05-15T20:56:00 < Rob235> what project 2016-05-15T20:56:16 < jpa-> world domination 2016-05-15T20:56:29 < Steffanx> tracking info missing. That's bad when it comes to a 9 months project. 2016-05-15T20:56:43 < Rob235> what is it really? 2016-05-15T20:56:57 < Steffanx> Little parrots Rob235. 2016-05-15T20:57:14 < Steffanx> but im not sure if jpa- understood i was refering to that project. 2016-05-15T20:57:38 < jpa-> Steffanx: apparently the shipping has +- 14 days delivery window and will not even call in advance 2016-05-15T20:57:59 < Rob235> I'm waiting on heat shrink from china, how lame is that 2016-05-15T20:58:31 < Rob235> hurry up and cool down peanut butter 2016-05-15T20:58:41 < Steffanx> cool down peanut butter? 2016-05-15T20:58:48 < Steffanx> home made peanut butter? 2016-05-15T20:58:58 < Rob235> no, weed infused peanut butter 2016-05-15T20:59:34 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-15T21:00:44 < Steffanx> hmm 2016-05-15T21:01:16 < ReadError> pffft 2016-05-15T21:01:20 < ReadError> waiting on heatshrink ? 2016-05-15T21:01:24 < ReadError> gtfo, bad excuse 2016-05-15T21:01:39 < Rob235> I have to focus on school anyway, I'm happy to have the break 2016-05-15T21:02:27 < ReadError> tune in, turn on, drop out 2016-05-15T21:03:06 < Steffanx> and still have this huge huge huge study loan thing. 2016-05-15T21:03:17 < Rob235> no loans for me 2016-05-15T21:03:38 < Steffanx> Hmm is that possible? 2016-05-15T21:03:44 < Steffanx> (unless rich family and stuff) 2016-05-15T21:04:20 < Rob235> grandparents passed away a couple years ago and left me some money, paid off all my debts 2016-05-15T21:04:51 < Steffanx> "lucky" you. 2016-05-15T21:04:58 < Rob235> yea 2016-05-15T21:05:09 < jpa-> free education ftw 2016-05-15T21:05:28 < Steffanx> 2k/year is semi-free as well 2016-05-15T21:06:39 < Rob235> yea, I really wish Bernie had a chance. we need this country to turn around 2016-05-15T21:07:29 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xKz4vRJV/IMG_1426.JPG 2016-05-15T21:07:53 < Rob235> he might not have been able to get things done but he'd have more than 15 min of fame to get people on board with real change over time 2016-05-15T21:08:00 < ReadError> bernie cant do shit 2016-05-15T21:08:09 < ReadError> free healthcare and free college in 4 years? 2016-05-15T21:08:16 < ReadError> yea, okay 2016-05-15T21:08:23 < Rob235> what I just said 2016-05-15T21:08:35 < ReadError> i cant stand his accent 2016-05-15T21:08:42 < ReadError> its too 'NY jew' for me 2016-05-15T21:08:46 < Steffanx> free, free? None of that is actually free here ReadError. 2016-05-15T21:08:49 < ReadError> or some northern place 2016-05-15T21:08:57 < Rob235> yea its ny jey 2016-05-15T21:09:00 < Rob235> jew* 2016-05-15T21:09:08 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T21:09:09 < Rob235> very strong but whatever, I like him 2016-05-15T21:09:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T21:09:31 < Rob235> there's a brooklyn accent in there 2016-05-15T21:09:34 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T21:10:59 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-15T21:11:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.100.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-15T21:11:22 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T21:11:32 < Steffanx> it still would be funny to see what happens when that madman actually wins. 2016-05-15T21:11:42 < Steffanx> *interesting 2016-05-15T21:12:01 < Rob235> hillary is probably going to win which sucks too but not as bad 2016-05-15T21:12:12 < Rob235> although I haven't been watching the news recently 2016-05-15T21:13:54 < Rob235> ahh my hard drive isn't red anymore, freed up enough space 2016-05-15T21:14:04 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-15T21:25:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:344f:701e:3dec:7020] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T21:32:18 -!- Guest26261 [~rager@52.38.200.113] has quit [Quit: whatever, man] 2016-05-15T21:38:39 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:ed34:a40b:6da3:ebc1] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T21:43:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:344f:701e:3dec:7020] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T21:44:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T21:49:08 < scrts> ladies & gentlemen, who has NAS @ home? 2016-05-15T21:55:28 < karlp> scrts: do you mean a dedicated device with 2 or more hdds in it? or "I've got some storage attached to 'not my computer' that I use for backups" ? 2016-05-15T21:55:50 < scrts> ah no, it's a separate box with 1-N HDDs 2016-05-15T21:55:57 < scrts> I wonder how noisy they are 2016-05-15T21:56:05 < scrts> I am looking into QNAP box with Celeron CPU 2016-05-15T21:58:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T21:58:48 < Steffanx> jokes ohsix? :P 2016-05-15T21:59:50 < Steffanx> you post so many links i tend not to really read those ;) 2016-05-15T22:00:02 < Steffanx> so i thought it was a serious reply. 2016-05-15T22:00:33 < Steffanx> serious joke? 2016-05-15T22:01:57 < Steffanx> hah :P 2016-05-15T22:02:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-15T22:03:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T22:07:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-15T22:12:55 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-15T22:32:07 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T22:33:53 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T22:36:06 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-15T22:36:26 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T22:48:40 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-15T22:57:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T22:59:03 < Rob235> there's a difference between communism and wanting free education and healthcare 2016-05-15T23:02:15 < Rob235> I just cut my hair, I hope it turned out ok 2016-05-15T23:02:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-15T23:03:02 < Rob235> I don't read 2016-05-15T23:03:18 < Rob235> books 2016-05-15T23:03:23 < Rob235> unless it's for school 2016-05-15T23:03:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-15T23:03:58 < Rob235> I have too much other stuff I'd rather be doing than read, I'd rather read articles and learn stuff on websites 2016-05-15T23:05:39 < Rob235> 3 1/2 hours left on this transfer... 52% done 2016-05-15T23:09:06 < Rob235> switching to chrome was a good idea, I already feel at home 2016-05-15T23:10:02 -!- abebarker [~abebarker@209.213.37.210] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T23:21:56 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-15T23:28:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T23:33:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-15T23:34:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T23:36:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T23:44:07 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ANZ8Osnz4 Brad Neely of the day 2016-05-15T23:48:57 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKakk1eGt6ZndEWkE/view?usp=sharing welding table 2016-05-15T23:49:09 < kakimir> machined cast iron surface 2016-05-15T23:49:26 < kakimir> totally straigt in every direction 2016-05-15T23:51:37 < kakimir> has threaded holes all over 2016-05-15T23:51:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-15T23:51:53 < kakimir> and big hole at center of course 2016-05-15T23:53:21 < PaulFertser> ohsix: what do you think about LessWrong? 2016-05-15T23:56:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Day changed Mon May 16 2016 2016-05-16T00:02:35 < kakimir> the best of course 2016-05-16T00:03:02 < kakimir> what to do before sleep 2016-05-16T00:04:14 < kakimir> seen 2016-05-16T00:04:20 < Laurenceb_> are you guys talking about atheism? 2016-05-16T00:04:51 < Laurenceb_> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Atheist 2016-05-16T00:05:23 < kakimir> atheist get butthurt even easier than christians 2016-05-16T00:06:59 < kakimir> when there is potential for flamewars 2016-05-16T00:08:10 < BrainDamage> https://news.vice.com/article/introducing-isis-crisis-the-strategy-board-game-the-canadian-military-could-use-to-fight-the-islamic-state 2016-05-16T00:08:23 < Laurenceb_> >reading vice.com 2016-05-16T00:08:39 < Laurenceb_> I like how the only non troll page on ED is the page about ED 2016-05-16T00:08:49 < Laurenceb_> almost like ED editors are easy to troll 2016-05-16T00:09:05 < BrainDamage> i don't give a shit what hosts the content, if someone i know pastes me a link i try to give a read 2016-05-16T00:09:07 < Rob235> R2COM: I'm not an idiot, you don't have to be an asshole, I just mean the system 2016-05-16T00:09:16 < BrainDamage> since they already did some primary screening 2016-05-16T00:09:46 < BrainDamage> otherwise with the same reasoning we should forbid you from posting any link whatsoever 2016-05-16T00:10:15 < Laurenceb_> uh no 2016-05-16T00:10:42 < Laurenceb_> fun fact: girlvinyl works for the FBI 2016-05-16T00:16:23 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-05-16T00:17:53 -!- rewolff [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T00:18:33 < Laurenceb_> fun fact: there are girlvinyl nudes 2016-05-16T00:20:00 < Laurenceb_> "fun" 2016-05-16T00:20:08 * Laurenceb_ passes eye bleach 2016-05-16T00:20:54 < Laurenceb_> less fun that Merkel porn 2016-05-16T00:21:04 < Laurenceb_> *than 2016-05-16T00:21:09 < kakimir> these ultra deep diving tanks are really fukkin my mind 2016-05-16T00:21:51 < BrainDamage> it's kinda boring tought 2016-05-16T00:22:10 < BrainDamage> past 15m you already start seeing weird things in the sea 2016-05-16T00:22:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-53b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-16T00:22:36 < kakimir> actual or nonactual things? 2016-05-16T00:22:48 < Laurenceb_> aliens 2016-05-16T00:22:50 < BrainDamage> actual 2016-05-16T00:23:00 < BrainDamage> nitrogen narcosis will set at 30+ 2016-05-16T00:23:34 < kakimir> I know Laurenceb_ .. underwater squird supperbrain 2016-05-16T00:23:38 < kakimir> from space 2016-05-16T00:23:39 < BrainDamage> you can offset breathing mixed gasses instead of plain air 2016-05-16T00:24:06 < BrainDamage> which is like a 2h course and a tiny examination 2016-05-16T00:24:23 < BrainDamage> howrever open license won't let you go below 18m itfp 2016-05-16T00:25:18 < BrainDamage> what license do you have? 2016-05-16T00:26:00 < kakimir> I wonder how the nick "BrainDamage" came along 2016-05-16T00:26:24 < BrainDamage> so you answer my question with an unrelated question 2016-05-16T00:26:50 < kakimir> I read and write slow atm. 2016-05-16T00:26:58 < kakimir> no license 2016-05-16T00:27:45 < BrainDamage> i have a diving license 2016-05-16T00:28:15 < BrainDamage> but the nick is older than my license :p 2016-05-16T00:32:48 < kakimir> we did some freediving in army evening freetime 2016-05-16T00:32:58 < kakimir> with friend 2016-05-16T00:33:34 < kakimir> we had competition always who dives most times back and forth 2016-05-16T00:35:42 < kakimir> supervisor gave us some yell once 2016-05-16T00:36:33 < kakimir> said that stuff we were doing same time and without any understanding what we were doing was stupid and potential to kill us both 2016-05-16T00:37:19 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-16T00:37:56 < BrainDamage> you can kill yourself freediving np, esp if you hyperventilate 2016-05-16T00:38:38 < BrainDamage> you only get rid of co2, which is what your brain uses as marker for the breathe urgency sensation 2016-05-16T00:38:52 < BrainDamage> so you can starve o2 and just faint while feeling ok 2016-05-16T00:39:20 < BrainDamage> not that purging co2 doesn't help, but if you overdo you can kill yourself 2016-05-16T00:40:18 < kakimir> how far I could push myself in freedive if I had right technique? 2016-05-16T00:41:52 < BrainDamage> depends on exertion and physical fitness, as you move you consume more, but say 3-5 min after some training 2016-05-16T00:42:21 < kakimir> BrainDamage will run quick IRC basic course for me 2016-05-16T00:42:37 < BrainDamage> i can't give a license for you 2016-05-16T00:42:48 < BrainDamage> but if you need a shove to kill yourself, be my guest 2016-05-16T00:43:51 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-16T00:45:44 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T00:45:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T00:46:47 < kakimir> what is that license for anyway? 2016-05-16T00:49:03 < kakimir> yes 2016-05-16T00:49:45 < BrainDamage> without a diving license many places won't let you rent tanks 2016-05-16T00:50:01 < kakimir> thre is no tanks around here 2016-05-16T00:50:12 < BrainDamage> and in marine reserves you'll even see police diving with you to check for regulation compliance 2016-05-16T00:50:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T00:50:26 < BrainDamage> try to dive in the red sea with gloves or a knife 2016-05-16T00:50:40 < kakimir> ? 2016-05-16T00:50:50 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqugttkrdhopqvna] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T00:50:53 < BrainDamage> you'll have police checking behaviour and license 2016-05-16T00:51:23 < kakimir> there is blue and red lights flashing under water as they chase you down 2016-05-16T00:51:27 < BrainDamage> license is not mandatory everywhere, but it often is 2016-05-16T00:52:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d9bc:2d45:2ae6:6281] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T00:52:17 < kakimir> and they have some underwater propellers and nets they use to catch bad divers 2016-05-16T00:52:45 < BrainDamage> next time please warn me when you have an autism fit 2016-05-16T00:52:52 < BrainDamage> so i can not bother replying 2016-05-16T00:54:58 < kakimir> ohsix: what is happening in the pic 2016-05-16T00:55:00 < kakimir> ? 2016-05-16T00:55:33 < BrainDamage> this is irc ohsix, autism is your general goto word to associate to moronic behaviour 2016-05-16T00:55:48 < kakimir> I just realized I have actually whole freediving set exept the weight belt 2016-05-16T00:56:23 < kakimir> without belt it's fun just swim across the lake 2016-05-16T00:56:30 < kakimir> and not drown 2016-05-16T00:56:45 < BrainDamage> try concrete shoes 2016-05-16T00:58:53 < kakimir> you mean 2016-05-16T00:59:56 < kakimir> old mafia trick 2016-05-16T01:02:03 < kakimir> they use under 1hour cement in industry 2016-05-16T01:02:11 < BrainDamage> that's dumb, just tie to anything heavy, why bothering with a custom cast 2016-05-16T01:02:46 < BrainDamage> hoover dam is still not 100% set iirc 2016-05-16T01:03:05 < zyp> BrainDamage, the psychological torture of the concrete setting around your feet? 2016-05-16T01:03:54 < BrainDamage> might as well use plaster of paris then, while it sets will also expand and cook the limbs 2016-05-16T01:04:02 < BrainDamage> so you have physical torture too 2016-05-16T01:05:03 < zyp> BrainDamage, haha, remind me to never make an enemy of you 2016-05-16T01:06:33 < kakimir> how much heat it produces? 2016-05-16T01:08:32 < kakimir> what is interesting that it butts out heat for years 2016-05-16T01:09:10 < kakimir> it propably still wont warm up anything practically like 2016-05-16T01:09:29 < kakimir> keeping stuff actally warm and stuff 2016-05-16T01:10:26 < kakimir> it must have been like in sauna inside the dam first year or few 2016-05-16T01:14:19 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T01:14:55 < BrainDamage> >Kangaroo tumor 2016-05-16T01:15:37 < kakimir> when it's stuffing things inside body cavities it apparently gets 0 to 100 very quickly 2016-05-16T01:15:55 < kakimir> yes 2016-05-16T01:15:59 < kakimir> glass jar 2016-05-16T01:16:41 < kakimir> when I was kid second year in school or so 2016-05-16T01:17:51 < kakimir> a friend asked me to come with him to school nurse 2016-05-16T01:18:18 < kakimir> he had his penis to show because there was something wrong 2016-05-16T01:19:06 < Rob235> was it swollen? 2016-05-16T01:19:26 < kakimir> he had stuffed some small lego block inside urethra 2016-05-16T01:19:39 < Rob235> ouch 2016-05-16T01:20:03 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T01:24:00 < kakimir> there propably is doctors that have specialized in such cases 2016-05-16T01:24:59 < kakimir> "This one is for John." 2016-05-16T01:30:25 -!- emeb [~ericb@184-98-37-143.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T01:30:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T01:37:30 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-05-16T01:38:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T01:39:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T01:44:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T01:49:38 < kakimir> I wonder if there is active projects to advance intelligence of animal species 2016-05-16T01:50:01 < kakimir> thru selective breeding 2016-05-16T01:50:35 < kakimir> I just need to think breeding smart animals now 2016-05-16T01:51:07 -!- emeb [~ericb@184-98-37-143.phnx.qwest.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-16T01:51:11 < kakimir> yes 2016-05-16T01:51:52 < kakimir> at least I know that breeding cows smarter would be way too long process 2016-05-16T01:57:05 < kakimir> ohsix: there was no other intelligence around 2016-05-16T02:07:39 -!- KreA [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T02:08:29 < Laurenceb_> this channel is a bit "no homo" 2016-05-16T02:08:39 < Laurenceb_> ##stmanalinsertions 2016-05-16T02:10:27 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-16T02:11:03 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-16T02:24:31 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-05-16T02:31:25 < Bright> advanced pony bus 2016-05-16T02:32:25 < upgrdman> with an stm32f0, if i want to dma from memory to gpio->odr, how does the dma controller know how fast to transfer? does it just do one transfer per core clock cycle? 2016-05-16T02:33:00 < upgrdman> ya... i see nothing in the gpio registers that related to dma 2016-05-16T02:33:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T02:38:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T02:50:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T03:09:30 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-16T03:09:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T03:10:55 -!- KreA is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-16T03:11:36 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/QfWsIF8.png 2016-05-16T03:12:43 < dongs> hm where's emeb 2016-05-16T03:13:00 < dongs> upgrdman: you clock GPIO dma from a timer 2016-05-16T03:13:18 < dongs> thats your trigger for the transfer 2016-05-16T03:14:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/2at9VC9.gifv oops 2016-05-16T03:15:02 < dongs> The last link has been flagged by IRC NANNY as "Possibly Unsuitable". Please find your parent(s) first and have them check the content before opening. [this channel protected by IrCNaNNY by SafeSoft v1.0b] 2016-05-16T03:15:27 < dongs> vertical video, what a cunt 2016-05-16T03:15:34 < dongs> crt, since ytou take apart DJ gear 2016-05-16T03:15:40 < dongs> how do they connect say 10-20+ encoder knobs 2016-05-16T03:15:41 < dongs> to a mcu? 2016-05-16T03:15:49 < dongs> the shit is multiplexed somehow right? 2016-05-16T03:16:38 < dongs> like I use a 4067 or something multiplexer for buttons and shit just scan it 2016-05-16T03:16:55 < dongs> heh 2016-05-16T03:17:13 -!- whaterverman [~rager@ec2-52-38-200-113.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T03:17:45 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:ed34:a40b:6da3:ebc1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-16T03:18:50 < dongs> rite 2016-05-16T03:18:53 < dongs> nice fans 2016-05-16T03:19:00 < dongs> i guess i need t owait for emeb to show up 2016-05-16T03:19:07 < dongs> he would know how to multiplex enkkkoders 2016-05-16T03:20:22 < dongs> also nice youtube title image 2016-05-16T03:20:26 < dongs> do you think ohsix is already subscribed to you? 2016-05-16T03:21:17 -!- whaterverman is now known as rager 2016-05-16T03:30:01 -!- rager [~rager@ec2-52-38-200-113.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: whatever, man] 2016-05-16T03:37:19 -!- rager [~rager@ec2-52-38-200-113.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T03:57:23 -!- bourbon [~rager@ecsta.cc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T03:58:03 < upgrdman> https://gfycat.com/KeyNeglectedArachnid 2016-05-16T03:59:17 < upgrdman> dont think so 2016-05-16T04:00:00 < upgrdman> https://gfycat.com/NaughtySizzlingCuckoo 2016-05-16T04:01:05 < Laurenceb_> it says cuck in the url 2016-05-16T04:01:14 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-16T04:01:26 < upgrdman> ohsix, ya 2016-05-16T04:01:33 < Laurenceb_> https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56699262.jpg 2016-05-16T04:03:49 < Laurenceb_> I dont get all the cellphones in Syria thing 2016-05-16T04:04:20 < Laurenceb_> prosumably the infrastructure is reliable enough that it keeps running and isis just need to power it up with diesel generators 2016-05-16T04:04:44 < Laurenceb_> but I don't get why it doesnt get hacked and their locations found 2016-05-16T04:05:31 < Laurenceb_> yeah but supposedly there are triangulation backdoors with super accurate positions 2016-05-16T04:05:53 < Laurenceb_> so they could trace all the isis guys versus time and see who is who and everything 2016-05-16T04:06:01 < Laurenceb_> then just drop jdam on the co-ords 2016-05-16T04:06:03 < Laurenceb_> simples 2016-05-16T04:06:30 < Laurenceb_> even consumer grade tracking works within +-100m on my phone 2016-05-16T04:06:38 < Laurenceb_> good enough for intelligence 2016-05-16T04:06:51 < Laurenceb_> easy to filter them out if you can track everything 2016-05-16T04:06:53 < Laurenceb_> nope 2016-05-16T04:07:00 < Laurenceb_> this is tracking an ancient nokia 2016-05-16T04:07:27 < Laurenceb_> it's almost as if the CIA doesnt really target ISIS 2016-05-16T04:07:52 < Laurenceb_> hopefully the KGB will hack it but NSA probably knows all the backdoors already 2016-05-16T04:08:11 < Laurenceb_> just track position versus time - people who have been in fighting zones during fighting 2016-05-16T04:08:17 < Laurenceb_> then in known isis base etc 2016-05-16T04:08:30 < Laurenceb_> hmm good point 2016-05-16T04:08:51 < Laurenceb_> just drop small GPRS/whatever interceptors with sat uplink 2016-05-16T04:09:05 < Laurenceb_> then you could run dedicated triangulation hardware with GPS time sync 2016-05-16T04:09:13 < Laurenceb_> shit I need to sell this shit to NSA 2016-05-16T04:10:44 < Laurenceb_> covert IMEI correlator with solar power and sat uplink 2016-05-16T04:10:55 < Laurenceb_> sure 2016-05-16T04:11:13 < Laurenceb_> JDAM drops on them and they dont know how anyone got the co-ordinates 2016-05-16T04:13:38 < PeterM> thats like 20 lines of solid autism right there folks 2016-05-16T04:13:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T04:14:38 < dongs> PeterM: yeah, no shit. 2016-05-16T04:14:41 < dongs> ohama: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-16T04:14:42 < Laurenceb_> yeah bombing ISIS is solid autism 2016-05-16T04:14:45 < dongs> err, nmotherfcckigndfin 2016-05-16T04:14:48 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-16T04:15:26 < Laurenceb_> is he like irc president? 2016-05-16T04:15:46 < Thorn> that copypasta should suggest a livejournal blog 2016-05-16T04:16:01 < dongs> does livejouirnal still exist 2016-05-16T04:16:05 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-16T04:16:29 < Laurenceb_> it wont trigger their taps 2016-05-16T04:16:41 < Laurenceb_> to trigger them you have to google for "TAILS Linux" 2016-05-16T04:16:48 < Laurenceb_> or "Siberian Mouse" 2016-05-16T04:17:15 < Laurenceb_> protip: do not try this 2016-05-16T04:18:00 < dongs> Laurenceb_: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-16T04:19:04 < upgrdman> dongs, http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/5566282110.html 2016-05-16T04:19:56 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-16T04:21:08 < dongs> PeterM: did you see that crt autism video 2016-05-16T04:22:43 * Laurenceb_ has been reading Snowden shit 2016-05-16T04:24:19 < Laurenceb_> some pretty funny trigger words in the interception shit 2016-05-16T04:24:42 < Laurenceb_> I'm guessing they change it very regularly and are trying to find specific people 2016-05-16T04:25:32 < Laurenceb_> true 2016-05-16T04:25:35 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2016-05-16T04:26:08 < Thorn> iirc Snowden ran a nude pic exchange ring 2016-05-16T04:26:22 < Thorn> captured by their clandestine systems of course 2016-05-16T04:30:32 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T04:39:14 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T04:40:25 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T04:40:43 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T04:42:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T04:56:56 < dongs> STM32F030F4P6s are cheap. like $0.40 in a box 2016-05-16T04:57:18 < dongs> who teh fuck would want to use tarduino 2016-05-16T05:01:38 < dongs> http://www.sf-express.com/cn/en/promotion/Move-Your-Thumb-Get-Surprise-for-Sending-Shipments/ 2016-05-16T05:01:41 < dongs> wat 2016-05-16T05:14:41 < dongs> emeb_mac: boop 2016-05-16T05:14:59 < emeb_mac> dongs: beep 2016-05-16T05:15:25 < dongs> how does a pro scan lets say 10 encoders 2016-05-16T05:15:31 < dongs> do I have to do it tarduino way with shift registers? 2016-05-16T05:15:59 < dongs> i figured you'd know sinec you love knobs 2016-05-16T05:17:26 < emeb_mac> dongs: I haven't actually shipped any equipment that uses encoders. 2016-05-16T05:17:47 < emeb_mac> I have some clients who use them and they usually hook them directly to GPIO 2016-05-16T05:17:57 < emeb_mac> ohsix: yes 2016-05-16T05:18:00 < dongs> yeah but thjat doesnt realyl scale 2016-05-16T05:18:20 < dongs> i mean i'd like to use the stm encoder interface on timers but I dont think thats gonna work if you have more than a couple 2016-05-16T05:18:33 < emeb_mac> dongs: right - I know one guy who runs encoders off of shift registers on a SPI port. He seems happy with the results. 2016-05-16T05:19:32 < emeb_mac> I've got a bunch of proto stuff using encoders directly on GPIO but my debounce code suxxxxx so they're a bit glitchy. 2016-05-16T05:20:05 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T05:21:09 < emeb_mac> ohsix: I design HW and SW for modular synthesizers -> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/synth/index.html 2016-05-16T05:22:03 < emeb_mac> there's a lot to learn. 2016-05-16T05:22:31 < emeb_mac> but you can do a lot with some fairly simple stuff. just grab an STM32 and a codec and have fun. 2016-05-16T05:22:43 < dongs> lol. 2016-05-16T05:22:49 < dongs> telling autism6 to just do stuff. 2016-05-16T05:22:51 < dongs> good fucking luck 2016-05-16T05:23:02 < dongs> prepare for pages and pages of autism chats without any results. 2016-05-16T05:23:09 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-05-16T05:23:14 < dongs> glitchy. 2016-05-16T05:23:18 < dongs> err, nice mouse 2016-05-16T05:23:40 < emeb_mac> dongs: just like all those "pls to send me teh codezzzz" emails from .in 2016-05-16T05:24:09 < dongs> yar. at least if I ask for codezzz i get shit done 2016-05-16T05:24:48 < Thorn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEM_and_SSM_chips_in_synthesizers 2016-05-16T05:24:52 < emeb_mac> ohsix: there's plenty of audio resources out there on the web that is general & current. 2016-05-16T05:25:21 < emeb_mac> ohsix: np - have fun. 2016-05-16T05:25:58 < emeb_mac> dongs: found a bug in my debounce code the other day that had been lurking for years. need to try it out on the damn encoders again. 2016-05-16T05:26:15 < dongs> nice 2016-05-16T05:26:27 < emeb_mac> but it only scans 'em at 1ms timing - should be fine for SPI serial stuffs. 2016-05-16T05:26:46 < dongs> i googled around and looks ilke midibox is doing manyinputs wiht shiftregisters 2016-05-16T05:26:48 < emeb_mac> I do it in the systick 2016-05-16T05:26:51 < dongs> including encodedrs 2016-05-16T05:26:54 < emeb_mac> ya 2016-05-16T05:27:02 < dongs> filthy PIC garbage tho 2016-05-16T05:27:09 < dongs> ast least newer shit uses LPCaids and F4 2016-05-16T05:27:14 < emeb_mac> eh - generally applicable 2016-05-16T05:29:26 < Thorn> ohsix: https://www.youtube.com/user/kidysputpikii 2016-05-16T05:29:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T05:32:39 < dongs> https://hackaday.io/project/9829/instructions hah 2016-05-16T05:37:30 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-16T05:42:48 -!- rmull [~rmull@nooperation.org] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-16T05:47:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T05:48:42 < Thorn> ohsix: also https://www.youtube.com/user/bubagoo if you haven't seen it yet 2016-05-16T05:51:53 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-16T05:55:41 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T05:56:25 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T06:03:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T06:13:44 < Thorn> it's primitive shit though 2016-05-16T06:14:19 < Thorn> to come up with a competitive product you need to know what musicians want 2016-05-16T06:14:33 < Thorn> they don't even know that themselves 2016-05-16T06:30:20 < Thorn> there seems to be a market for cloned modules though given their markup 2016-05-16T06:32:17 -!- abebarker [~abebarker@209.213.37.210] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-05-16T06:53:17 < Thorn> they want millions of fans who can only dream of having their dicks sucked by them 2016-05-16T07:54:56 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-16T08:04:24 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T08:17:48 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T08:26:12 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T08:41:55 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T08:48:05 < emeb_mac> what software do I use? 2016-05-16T08:49:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T08:53:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-1fb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T09:04:13 < emeb_mac> R2COM: I use diptrace for paying projects 2016-05-16T09:09:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-1fb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-16T09:21:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T09:29:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T09:35:48 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T09:38:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T09:40:50 < dongs> nice ragequit there from R2COM 2016-05-16T09:41:08 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-05-16T09:43:08 < dongs> he probly expected 'cuckcad' as answer and got pissed it wasnt 2016-05-16T09:44:04 < PaulFertser> I wonder why he was asking at all, as he's always so sure in Orcad capabilities, features and pricing. 2016-05-16T09:46:47 < dongs> right 2016-05-16T09:46:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-16T09:48:43 < dongs> teensy trash is still closesdores right 2016-05-16T09:49:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T09:50:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T10:03:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-16T10:11:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.115] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T10:14:01 < upgrdman> classy wedding http://imgur.com/CvGxsbp 2016-05-16T10:17:22 < upgrdman> lolwut http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/a1875847-Do-you-dunk-your-penis 2016-05-16T10:20:20 < dongs> This is page 1 of 41(This thread has 1001 messages.) 2016-05-16T10:20:24 < dongs> what teh fuck were you even llooking 2016-05-16T10:20:25 < dongs> for 2016-05-16T10:20:27 < dongs> to find that. 2016-05-16T10:21:07 < upgrdman> r/wtf 2016-05-16T10:22:27 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T10:22:44 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-16T10:22:50 < upgrdman> lol ya 2016-05-16T10:23:22 < dongs> lol, japs will be transmitting 8K garbage in 3000-3220mhz band 2016-05-16T10:23:31 < dongs> i guess being different from DVB-S2 waws not enough 2016-05-16T10:23:37 < dongs> lets use a totally incompatible band too 2016-05-16T10:24:08 < dongs> what does higher frequency do with complex modulations + rain, all other things being equial? 2016-05-16T10:24:30 < dongs> 16APSK (which is what they plan to use) + rain in ~2000mhz band = bye bye 2016-05-16T10:26:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d9bc:2d45:2ae6:6281] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T10:26:51 < dongs> crt, yeah, just do it not in this channel 2016-05-16T10:26:56 < dongs> ohsix is already doing enough derailing 2016-05-16T10:28:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T10:29:46 < mitrax> ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi 2016-05-16T10:33:46 < mitrax> crt: did you find your bench? 2016-05-16T10:35:57 < upgrdman> wonder what the story behind this is https://i.reddituploads.com/e3cf31f6c7cd418cbf08fc312d6026b2?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=c00dc61577484834a94ce3528af31f2b 2016-05-16T10:45:31 < dongs> Brianna Wu was once stalked by a crazy man named John Walker Flynt. To give you an example of how nuts, John would claim that Wu had killed him and made a suit out of his skin and stole his comic book creations to put into her video game. 2016-05-16T10:51:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T10:52:09 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T10:52:50 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-16T10:54:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-16T11:11:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T11:21:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T11:21:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-16T11:22:41 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T11:23:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-16T11:25:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-16T11:26:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T11:27:03 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T11:29:34 < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/PEL12T-4225S-S1024/?qs=G5few1MRhWoPZyoetZIsCA%3d%3d 2016-05-16T11:33:40 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqugttkrdhopqvna] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-16T11:34:40 < dongs> looks like USA version of that china rgb encoder 2016-05-16T11:37:35 < dongs> i wonder if emeb knew 2016-05-16T11:40:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.10] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T11:43:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-16T11:56:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T12:03:28 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-16T12:10:01 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T12:14:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-16T12:15:36 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T12:20:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T12:30:10 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T12:34:51 < mitrax> crt: that's my shed 2016-05-16T12:59:46 < mitrax> crt: call london? is that slang for something kinky? 2016-05-16T13:09:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T13:13:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T13:13:47 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T13:14:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-16T13:17:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T13:26:16 < dongs> pioneer.co.ukl 2016-05-16T13:48:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T13:54:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T13:54:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-16T13:55:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-16T14:04:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T14:08:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T14:13:28 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-16T14:13:32 -!- rager [~rager@ec2-52-38-200-113.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: whatever, man] 2016-05-16T14:17:51 -!- rager [~rager@lolrav.es] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T14:22:28 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T14:24:12 < dongs> $18,990.00 / $5,500.00 :: Wild Edibles: A Practical Guide To Foraging :: :: https://goo.gl/y4jlem :: SUCCESSFUL 2016-05-16T14:24:15 < dongs> (420 Backers) 2016-05-16T14:24:16 < dongs> fuckin lol 2016-05-16T14:28:53 < Sync> noice 2016-05-16T14:32:03 < dongs> am i blind or am i not seeing 16channel dimmable led driver? 2016-05-16T14:32:15 < Ecco> Hey 2016-05-16T14:32:16 < dongs> something like TLC59wahteverthefuck with SPI 2016-05-16T14:32:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T14:32:52 < Ecco> Guys, is it possible to pan "past" the origin in altium? 2016-05-16T14:33:01 < Ecco> It's driving me crazy, I cant pan freely in the PCB view 2016-05-16T14:33:27 < dongs> E-O-S and set your origin to wherever you want it to be 2016-05-16T14:34:11 < Ecco> Yeah, Idid set that 2016-05-16T14:34:21 < Ecco> But for some reason there's still a limit past which I cannot pan 2016-05-16T14:36:06 < dongs> well, there's the hard origin 2016-05-16T14:36:12 < dongs> yo ushould have been drawing your shit way above that 2016-05-16T14:36:23 < Ecco> well 2016-05-16T14:36:30 < Ecco> that's indeed a way to fix this 2016-05-16T14:37:16 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T14:57:14 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T14:57:22 < dongs> ecco, so select all, EM+move by xy and specify +50/100 or wahtever and get it out of hard origin 2016-05-16T14:58:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T15:02:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-16T15:08:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T15:15:29 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-16T15:15:32 < Ecco> Thanks! 2016-05-16T15:16:11 < Ecco> Correct me if I'm wrong, but the datasheet of the STM32F401 says that it *needs* an external crystal otherwise it won't do DFU 2016-05-16T15:16:23 < Ecco> Do you guys have any recommendation for a crystal? How am I supposed to pick one? 2016-05-16T15:17:49 < jpa-> i think it also has to be one of a small set of values 2016-05-16T15:17:53 < jpa-> 8 MHz or something 2016-05-16T15:17:59 < Ecco> Yes, indeed 2016-05-16T15:18:03 < jpa-> one way is to pick the same as on the discovery board :P 2016-05-16T15:18:07 < Ecco> Ohhh 2016-05-16T15:18:10 < Ecco> Boy that's smart 2016-05-16T15:18:13 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-16T15:23:09 < Ecco> Hmm, those are through-holes xtals 2016-05-16T15:24:33 < jpa-> you can mostly put just whatever 8MHz crystal 2016-05-16T15:24:46 < jpa-> i.e. the cheapest in your store 2016-05-16T15:25:27 < Ecco> :-) 2016-05-16T15:31:44 < PeterM> ecco do what clonerror doesn, aliexpress search "3225 8mhz" 2016-05-16T15:31:52 < Ecco> thanks 2016-05-16T15:32:00 < PeterM> get the cheapest ones there 2016-05-16T15:32:10 < PeterM> throw some caps on em 2016-05-16T15:32:44 < PeterM> probs liek 12-18pf depending on layout 2016-05-16T15:33:30 < Ecco> wat? 2016-05-16T15:35:12 < ReadError> never got xtals from ali 2016-05-16T15:35:17 < ReadError> cheap enough from mooser 2016-05-16T15:36:11 < PeterM> sure you did 2016-05-16T15:48:04 < Sync> baaw 2016-05-16T15:49:28 < PeterM> crt ypu should have asked in channel, i have a spare one i'd sell ya 2016-05-16T15:50:54 < PeterM> yer, ive got a boat load of handpeices for some reason 2016-05-16T15:50:58 < Sync> well, idk 2016-05-16T15:51:03 < Sync> I don't like the metcals 2016-05-16T15:52:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T15:52:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T15:57:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T15:57:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T15:58:12 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T16:00:39 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T16:05:39 < Laurenceb_> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1462917420172.png 2016-05-16T16:05:46 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ on suicide watch 2016-05-16T16:06:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.83] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T16:06:51 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/WkZ5e94QnWk?t=83 2016-05-16T16:07:14 < Laurenceb_> omg 2016-05-16T16:07:20 < Laurenceb_> WORLDSTARWORLDSTAR 2016-05-16T16:07:29 < ReadError> crips and bloods united bro 2016-05-16T16:07:30 < Laurenceb_> they made liveleak real 2016-05-16T16:10:29 < Laurenceb_> crt clearly visits liveleak 2016-05-16T16:11:24 < Laurenceb_> lul I'm banned from /pol/ 2016-05-16T16:13:59 < Laurenceb_> uhuh 2016-05-16T16:21:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T16:23:05 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_360137.html 2016-05-16T16:23:08 < ReadError> oi ava wank 2016-05-16T16:24:39 < PeterM> http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2016/05/lg-introduces-active-lifestyle-camera-with-live-streaming-over-4g/ 2016-05-16T16:25:01 < ReadError> can it do 4k/30fps ?? 2016-05-16T16:25:07 < ReadError> 1080p/120fps 2016-05-16T16:25:11 < ReadError> *wankwank* 2016-05-16T16:25:20 < Laurenceb_> camwhorecam 2016-05-16T16:25:31 < PeterM> 4k30fps 2016-05-16T16:25:48 < PeterM> 1080p60, live streaming 1080p30 2016-05-16T16:26:14 < ReadError> wth is UHD 2016-05-16T16:26:23 < PeterM> its 4k 2016-05-16T16:26:23 < ReadError> cant these people use numbers 2016-05-16T16:26:25 < PeterM> pretty much 2016-05-16T16:26:33 < PeterM> uhd is 4x 1080p 2016-05-16T16:26:35 < PeterM> so 2016-05-16T16:27:00 < PeterM> 3840x2160 2016-05-16T16:27:24 < Laurenceb_> sheeet 2016-05-16T16:27:29 < Laurenceb_> thats high res 2016-05-16T16:27:41 < PeterM> 4k is 4096x2160 2016-05-16T16:27:53 < PeterM> pretty much the samething 2016-05-16T16:28:13 < ReadError> but meh 2016-05-16T16:28:15 < ReadError> 4g etc 2016-05-16T16:28:20 < ReadError> its gonna be $$$ 2016-05-16T16:28:31 < ReadError> the formfactor is pretty wank 2016-05-16T16:28:58 < PeterM> i dunno aobut the formfactor, the gobro formfactor is pretty dumb too 2016-05-16T16:29:14 < Laurenceb_> I'd like something with >240fps 2016-05-16T16:29:32 < ReadError> http://www.lgnewsroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/LG-Action-CAM-LTE-2.jpg 2016-05-16T16:29:33 < PeterM> 240fps @720 is pretty common 2016-05-16T16:29:40 < ReadError> might as well stick a dong on your helmet 2016-05-16T16:30:00 < PeterM> gobro may as well stick a brick o nyour helmet, whats the diff? 2016-05-16T16:30:22 < ReadError> oh im talking about for droning 2016-05-16T16:30:32 < ReadError> the gopro has a better format 2016-05-16T16:30:32 < PeterM> for droning use a sony drift or something 2016-05-16T16:30:41 < ReadError> the session has the best 2016-05-16T16:30:45 < PeterM> sony drift = best 2016-05-16T16:30:49 < Laurenceb_> gopro is glitchy as hell 2016-05-16T16:31:24 < ReadError> wtf is a sony drift 2016-05-16T16:31:28 < ReadError> google finds nothing 2016-05-16T16:31:43 < PeterM> * drift ghost 2016-05-16T16:31:45 < PeterM> may bad 2016-05-16T16:32:10 < ReadError> nah the session is way nicer than that 2016-05-16T16:32:16 < ReadError> its an adorable little cube 2016-05-16T16:33:18 < PeterM> next your gonna suggest the polaroid cube hd 2016-05-16T16:33:39 < ReadError> well im talking about physical formfactor 2016-05-16T16:33:47 < ReadError> so ya the cube would fit into that 2016-05-16T16:34:37 < PeterM> the drift ghost is pretty good though because its simmilar body ratio to the keychain cameras 2016-05-16T16:34:41 < PeterM> jsut bigger 2016-05-16T16:35:38 < ReadError> the vertical mounting is dumb 2016-05-16T16:35:56 < ReadError> ive never heard of people using them so i imagine there is a reason 2016-05-16T16:36:03 < ReadError> runcam hd2 would win out over that 2016-05-16T16:37:49 < ReadError> 167grams lol 2016-05-16T16:38:11 < ReadError> yi is 72g 2016-05-16T16:38:21 < ReadError> for comparison 2016-05-16T16:39:26 < Steffanx> why this wasnt posted here yet? Because relevant: https://boingboing.net/2016/05/12/anal-fisting-site-breached-10.html 2016-05-16T16:39:35 < Steffanx> change your password Laurenceb_ / dongs 2016-05-16T16:40:33 < Laurenceb_> > reading boingboing 2016-05-16T16:40:41 < Laurenceb_> > clicking on anal fisting article 2016-05-16T16:40:51 < Laurenceb_> no homo 2016-05-16T16:41:09 < Steffanx> I have other sources for crappy links then just you Laurenceb_ ;) 2016-05-16T16:42:16 < Steffanx> You might be special, but not THAT special. 2016-05-16T16:42:30 < Steffanx> also boingboing is a well known site in the business? 2016-05-16T16:47:36 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T16:49:35 < dongs> jpa-: boot appnote specified which crystals work for dfu. 2016-05-16T16:49:50 < dongs> i'm pretty sure its something lke 8/12/24 are usable, maybe more 2016-05-16T16:50:05 < jpa-> yep 2016-05-16T17:01:29 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T17:03:23 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T17:10:42 < Rob235> mornin 2016-05-16T17:12:53 < Fleck> good! 2016-05-16T17:13:16 < Rob235> that's debatable 2016-05-16T17:16:16 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121.200.15.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T17:17:18 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T17:29:06 < Steffanx> morning is debatable as well, unless you talk ugt, Rob235 2016-05-16T17:30:01 < Fleck> ugt is debatable as well 2016-05-16T17:30:17 < dongs> its always gaysex time 2016-05-16T17:30:26 < Rob235> ok then 2016-05-16T17:30:41 < Steffanx> better stoner timer. 2016-05-16T17:30:42 < Steffanx> -r 2016-05-16T17:31:06 < Rob235> on that note... where's my bong 2016-05-16T17:34:10 < Steffanx> im not sure who has it. 2016-05-16T17:34:30 < Rob235> dongs was trying to put it up his ass 2016-05-16T17:36:55 < Laurenceb_> discovery board up the ass could be painful 2016-05-16T17:37:35 < dongs> http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/70501-Best-Fire-Ant-poison-ever! wow awesome 2016-05-16T17:38:44 < Rob235> yea I saw a video of that a while back, cool stuff 2016-05-16T17:39:02 < dongs> link or it di dnt happen 2016-05-16T17:39:42 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121.200.15.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-16T17:39:55 < Laurenceb_> now do it with a wasps nest 2016-05-16T17:40:02 < Rob235> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI 2016-05-16T17:40:10 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T17:47:09 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/Kicad-Schematic-Drawing-PCB-Layout/ atn kikecad pros 2016-05-16T17:47:46 < Steffanx> /join #kikad 2016-05-16T17:48:57 < Rob235> ahh my heat shrink has arrived in the states 2016-05-16T17:53:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T17:54:44 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokšt] 2016-05-16T17:58:57 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:02:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T18:05:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-16T18:09:00 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:09:19 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T18:09:49 < Rob235_> . 2016-05-16T18:11:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:11:44 < Steffanx> . 2016-05-16T18:12:49 -!- Rob235_ is now known as Rob235 2016-05-16T18:15:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T18:17:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:18:18 < dongs> stop dotting 2016-05-16T18:20:31 < Steffanx> Yes sir. 2016-05-16T18:23:13 < Steffanx> Aren't you too stoned to care yet, dongs? 2016-05-16T18:24:13 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ynSPtTa9c 2016-05-16T18:24:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:25:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d9bc:2d45:2ae6:6281] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:25:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-16T18:28:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-16T18:30:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d9bc:2d45:2ae6:6281] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-16T18:30:39 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwlthqpqxawwgcyo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T18:33:09 < Laurenceb_> whats the windoze version of ls -tr? 2016-05-16T18:33:41 < dongs> whgat the fuck does that even do 2016-05-16T18:34:34 < Laurenceb_> reverse time order 2016-05-16T18:34:37 < Laurenceb_> newest last 2016-05-16T18:34:41 < mitrax> dir /O -D 2016-05-16T18:34:56 < Laurenceb_> thanks 2016-05-16T18:34:59 < mitrax> no space sorry 2016-05-16T18:35:22 < mitrax> dir /O-D 2016-05-16T18:35:41 < Laurenceb_> k 2016-05-16T18:36:42 < mitrax> /OD is newest last /O-D newest first 2016-05-16T18:36:51 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-16T18:37:06 < mitrax> why don't you install cygwin or at least the gnu utility? :p 2016-05-16T18:37:30 < ReadError> mobaXterm is great 2016-05-16T18:37:39 < ReadError> makes windows usable 2016-05-16T18:38:14 < Laurenceb_> this is for "users" 2016-05-16T18:39:07 < dongs> bourns lists suggested encoder filter circuit in thier datasheets 2016-05-16T18:39:17 < Laurenceb_> can it take an argument? 2016-05-16T18:39:36 < Laurenceb_> system(["dir /OD '",location_root,"'"]); 2016-05-16T18:41:02 < dongs> fucking avnet just spammed me 2016-05-16T18:43:31 < dongs> time to chat them 2016-05-16T18:43:37 < dongs> and ask where the fuck is my order from february 2016-05-16T18:52:21 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-16T18:52:36 < dongs> man, conflict materials compliance is srs biz 2016-05-16T18:52:45 < dongs> make sure niggers are not getting abused 2016-05-16T18:52:53 < ReadError> tant caps? 2016-05-16T18:53:00 < ReadError> blood caps 2016-05-16T18:53:04 < dongs> ror 2016-05-16T18:54:24 < dongs> wow avnet chatter was rude as fuk 2016-05-16T18:54:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T18:55:12 < ReadError> paste? 2016-05-16T18:55:13 < dongs> "I will have to send you a form please fill that out and sent that back, then the order should be released." 2016-05-16T18:55:24 < dongs> released from wat, you piece of shit 2016-05-16T18:55:30 < dongs> its been like half a fucking year since placing it 2016-05-16T18:55:50 < dongs> bye 2016-05-16T18:55:50 < dongs> Chat InformationChat session has been terminated by the site operator. 2016-05-16T18:57:05 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-16T19:02:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:f008:c964:43eb:b78c] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T19:13:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T19:16:29 < dongs> Will the products sold to you by Avnet be resold or delivered to any person or entity included on the list of Specially Designated Nationals maintained by the Office of Foreign Assets Control or Industry and Security: Denied Persons List; Entities List; Unverified List? 2016-05-16T19:16:34 < dongs> come the fuck on 2016-05-16T19:29:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T19:33:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-16T19:35:11 < Tectu> ahahaha 2016-05-16T19:35:28 < dongs> i guess i cant resell this shit to ohsix 2016-05-16T19:36:17 < Tectu> building a nuke I guess 2016-05-16T19:38:10 < englishman> found dongs whiteboard http://i.imgur.com/td7Ey17.jpg 2016-05-16T19:38:38 < Tectu> This site can’t be reached 2016-05-16T19:38:38 < Tectu> The webpage at https://i.imgur.com/td7Ey17.jpg might be temporarily down or it may 2016-05-16T19:39:43 < englishman> Tectu: http://i.imgur.com/ClQDznF.png 2016-05-16T19:40:04 < Tectu> englishman, well doesn't help if imgur.com can't be reached 2016-05-16T19:41:05 < Laurenceb_> lul trollgur is down 2016-05-16T19:41:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-16T19:41:05 < Fleck> works here too 2016-05-16T19:41:18 < englishman> censored in europe due to possible islamophobia 2016-05-16T19:42:19 < Fleck> riiiight 2016-05-16T19:42:36 < Fleck> I am in EU, works fine 2016-05-16T19:42:50 < Tectu> englishman, the sad part is that I am kinda curious to see that whiteboard... 2016-05-16T19:43:04 < englishman> is there a better image host than imgur? 2016-05-16T19:43:11 < englishman> i tried dropcocks, googlefail 2016-05-16T19:43:14 < englishman> both awful 2016-05-16T19:43:27 < englishman> i kno imgur sucks but it sucks less than other sites 2016-05-16T19:43:59 < Fleck> 185.31.17.193 Tectu 2016-05-16T19:44:37 < englishman> http://s32.postimg.org/byaunlmqb/td7_Ey17.jpg Tectu 2016-05-16T19:44:38 < Tectu> wtf is happening 2016-05-16T19:44:38 < Tectu> Fastly error: unknown domain: 185.31.17.193. Please check that this domain has been added to a service. 2016-05-16T19:44:49 < Fleck> if you can find hosts file in your wincrap :p 2016-05-16T19:44:50 < Tectu> I entered it explicitely like any other IP address 2016-05-16T19:45:09 < Tectu> thanks englishman 2016-05-16T19:45:13 < Tectu> uh, are those ink pods? 2016-05-16T19:45:14 < englishman> postimage looks nice 2016-05-16T19:45:23 < englishman> no in your face social garbage 2016-05-16T19:45:36 < englishman> gives easy direct link 2016-05-16T19:45:52 < dongs> englishman: lol is that your whiteboard 2016-05-16T19:46:01 < englishman> Tectu: second image was this http://s32.postimg.org/dykebl45x/Cl_QDzn_F.png 2016-05-16T19:46:16 < Tectu> englishman, great 2016-05-16T19:47:05 < Lux> seems like there is some dns issue for some users: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/imgur.com.html 2016-05-16T19:47:36 < dongs> oic i should lurn to scroll up 2016-05-16T19:47:40 < Tectu> Latest Sites Checked 2016-05-16T19:47:40 < Tectu> dmv.state.va.us - DMV Virginia 2016-05-16T19:47:41 < Tectu> ahahahaha 2016-05-16T19:50:38 < englishman> well, found postimage, i never have to use imgay again, yay 2016-05-16T19:51:42 < Tectu> so did I just make your life better? 2016-05-16T19:52:03 < Laurenceb_> imgur actually blocked? 2016-05-16T19:52:04 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-05-16T19:52:29 < englishman> yes Tectu swiss perfection has imporved my life greatly 2016-05-16T19:52:34 < BrainDamage> imgur doesn't work here either 2016-05-16T19:52:39 < englishman> time to melt some toblerone 2016-05-16T19:52:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T19:52:49 < Tectu> hah 2016-05-16T19:53:00 < Tectu> I wish I had some of that 2016-05-16T19:53:20 < BrainDamage> why would you want some cheapass gianduia chocolate 2016-05-16T19:53:53 < lorenzo> lol google dns fail? 2016-05-16T19:54:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T19:54:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T19:54:46 < BrainDamage> what's with the small cylindrical containers sitting below the markers 2016-05-16T19:54:50 < BrainDamage> are they ink refills? 2016-05-16T19:55:26 < dongs> there's markers stuck in them 2016-05-16T19:55:48 < Tectu> BrainDamage, was wondering the same uh, are those ink pods? 2016-05-16T19:59:12 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T20:02:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-16T20:04:46 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T20:07:56 < Laurenceb_> omg META learning 2016-05-16T20:13:36 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T20:14:57 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-16T20:14:57 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-16T20:16:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T20:21:34 < englishman> heh f7 nucleo 2016-05-16T20:21:38 < englishman> with tarduino pin headers 2016-05-16T20:21:41 < Fleck> ;p 2016-05-16T20:26:09 < ReadError> they had that for a minute 2016-05-16T20:26:27 < ReadError> i been using the f429 one, pretty nice 2016-05-16T20:28:01 < englishman> $33cdn at digikrap 86 in stock 2016-05-16T20:28:57 < ReadError> think they was like 23 at mooser 2016-05-16T20:29:19 < englishman> yea $24 usd 2016-05-16T20:29:21 < englishman> exchange rate 2016-05-16T20:29:38 < ReadError> i dont get the nucleo hate 2016-05-16T20:29:43 < ReadError> sure it has arduino header 2016-05-16T20:29:53 < ReadError> but it also has every pin broken out pretty mcuh 2016-05-16T20:30:10 < ReadError> f7 disco ONLY has a tarduino header 2016-05-16T20:30:21 < ReadError> which is pretty dumb 2016-05-16T20:46:37 < Laurenceb_> is it possible to pass a path to windozer dir? 2016-05-16T20:46:42 < Laurenceb_> dir ./ 2016-05-16T20:46:46 < Laurenceb_> ^ liek that? 2016-05-16T20:49:03 < ReadError> lol why not try it 2016-05-16T20:54:08 < Laurenceb_> dont have windozer 2016-05-16T20:55:25 < Laurenceb_> ok windozer located 2016-05-16T20:55:32 < Laurenceb_> and rageeee its full of shit 2016-05-16T20:55:55 < Laurenceb_> I only wanted the names 2016-05-16T20:59:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-16T21:00:08 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T21:00:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-16T21:16:04 < Rob235> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lx4vhlvwfxvuu7i/screenshot000.png?dl=0 2016-05-16T21:27:29 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40257.msg1534687#msg1534687 2016-05-16T21:31:17 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad686.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T21:32:18 < englishman> Rob235: whats teh joke? 2016-05-16T21:35:09 < englishman> or is this running on your stm32f7 nucleo? 2016-05-16T21:37:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T21:43:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T21:45:03 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T21:57:20 < Rob235> no joke, just creating a media library 2016-05-16T21:57:49 < englishman> isnt this kodi? 2016-05-16T21:57:52 < Rob235> yea 2016-05-16T21:57:57 < englishman> ah nm 2016-05-16T21:58:40 < Rob235> I was mainly pointing out the 445 items and 927 hours 2016-05-16T21:58:59 < Fleck> you did? 2016-05-16T22:01:22 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T22:05:16 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T22:21:32 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T22:22:41 < qyx> anyone knows an ascii-table generator library in c? 2016-05-16T22:28:40 < englishman> has anyone used this https://github.com/baoshi/CubeMX2Makefile 2016-05-16T22:28:49 < Fleck> I have 2016-05-16T22:28:50 < Fleck> works! 2016-05-16T22:28:51 < englishman> or any other timecube->makefile tool 2016-05-16T22:28:53 < englishman> really 2016-05-16T22:28:58 < Fleck> yep 2016-05-16T22:29:04 < englishman> it puts a .map file into the gcc command line 2016-05-16T22:29:16 < englishman> so do i have to build the project in SW4 first? 2016-05-16T22:29:21 < englishman> to generate a .map 2016-05-16T22:31:11 < Fleck> I did not have, I just generated code with MX, used 2Makefile and compiled with gcc :D 2016-05-16T22:34:22 < englishman> so wtf 2016-05-16T22:34:43 < Fleck> f4_eth_fsmc.map 2016-05-16T22:34:51 < Fleck> gcc did it :D 2016-05-16T22:36:20 < ReadError> SW4 is so horrible 2016-05-16T22:37:04 < ReadError> KawaiiStudio is much better even if you arent using KawaiiOS 2016-05-16T22:37:56 < Steffanx> but you ahve to use that other not so kawaii os 2016-05-16T22:38:02 < englishman> but how does gcc generate it 2016-05-16T22:38:11 < englishman> if the first line in the script tells it to use the .map 2016-05-16T22:39:18 < Fleck> -Wl,-Map=$(MAPFILE),--cref << generates map 2016-05-16T22:39:49 < englishman> wheres this? in the script 2016-05-16T22:40:09 < englishman> ah its there 2016-05-16T22:40:23 < englishman> but it just says "cannot open map file, no such file or directory" 2016-05-16T22:40:59 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-16T22:41:43 < englishman> oh, lol it was complaining cuz i had to manually make a 'build' folder 2016-05-16T22:41:54 < englishman> and it is not capabile of making this folder itself. 2016-05-16T22:42:29 < Fleck> creates here 2016-05-16T22:42:45 < englishman> now it cant find the startup assembly file 2016-05-16T22:42:47 < englishman> le sigh 2016-05-16T22:45:00 < Fleck> englishman: do you even Makefile bro? :D 2016-05-16T22:45:09 < englishman> of course not, i like to use shit that works 2016-05-16T22:45:27 < englishman> looks like exactly zero of the include paths got ported to the makefile 2016-05-16T22:47:07 < Fleck> yeah, if you have curved hands - don't use Makefile :D 2016-05-16T22:47:16 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36305727 2016-05-16T22:47:45 < ReadError> wait, wat 2016-05-16T22:47:48 < ReadError> curved hands? 2016-05-16T22:49:21 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vmsojqsecdjpznsq] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-16T22:49:55 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-crhquftceoupsjwu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T22:50:16 < Laurenceb_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3580951/Call-centre-worker-arrested-online-footage-Nazi-dog.html 2016-05-16T22:51:54 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T22:54:36 -!- rewolff [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-16T22:56:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-16T22:56:31 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus 2016-05-16T23:01:11 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T23:01:58 < englishman> jesus i thought makefiles were retarded 2016-05-16T23:02:02 < englishman> but they are so much worse 2016-05-16T23:02:33 < Fleck> yep, all dumb ppl say so! 2016-05-16T23:02:48 < englishman> k 2016-05-16T23:04:27 < englishman> i can see why ST wants nothing to do with this 2016-05-16T23:08:40 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ that shit is fucking retarded 2016-05-16T23:08:53 < englishman> Fleck: shouldnt this be ASFLAGS not CFLAGS https://github.com/baoshi/CubeMX2Makefile/blob/master/CubeMX2Makefile.tpl#L86 2016-05-16T23:08:59 < Laurenceb_> video is funny tho 2016-05-16T23:09:03 < Laurenceb_> I lolld 2016-05-16T23:09:16 < Laurenceb_> also Count Dankula is an epic handle 2016-05-16T23:09:23 < Ultrasauce> assflags 2016-05-16T23:09:32 < ReadError> the video is retarded 2016-05-16T23:09:43 < ReadError> unfunny 2016-05-16T23:09:49 < Laurenceb_> I lolld 2016-05-16T23:09:54 < Laurenceb_> dats all that matters 2016-05-16T23:10:54 < Fleck> yep 2016-05-16T23:14:07 < Steffanx> http://bit.ly/1VEeDI5 2016-05-16T23:17:35 < englishman> ok so this script depends on specific, undocumented timecube settings 2016-05-16T23:17:47 < englishman> at least it imports correctly now 2016-05-16T23:18:05 < Ultrasauce> ya dont go blaming the gnu tools for st's clusterfuck of a toolchain 2016-05-16T23:18:17 < englishman> did i? 2016-05-16T23:18:53 < Ultrasauce> i dunno looked like you were bashing makefiles in general. only skimmed 2016-05-16T23:19:06 < englishman> yes they are usually the cause of much rage 2016-05-16T23:19:25 < Ultrasauce> timecube in only 24 hour compilation 2016-05-16T23:19:39 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-16T23:19:51 < Laurenceb_> Not funny Steffanx 2016-05-16T23:19:56 < englishman> ah, now i can blame gcc, for not accepting the arm intrinsic __align(x) 2016-05-16T23:20:21 < Steffanx> why not keiling? 2016-05-16T23:20:28 < Laurenceb_> wut englishman 2016-05-16T23:20:34 < Laurenceb_> gcc can use __align 2016-05-16T23:20:35 < englishman> felt liek self-harming today Steffanx 2016-05-16T23:21:30 < Steffanx> but a slightly different syntax Laurenceb_ 2016-05-16T23:21:41 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-05-16T23:23:41 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwlthqpqxawwgcyo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-16T23:30:50 < englishman> clear 2016-05-16T23:30:52 < englishman> oops 2016-05-16T23:39:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-16T23:41:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:f008:c964:43eb:b78c] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-16T23:49:44 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T23:51:47 < daey> question, if i use the arm-none-eabi-gcc compiler and i want to set a register values. e.g. in a stm32f411. How do i set those? I probably can not use the official register names, as the compiler isn't specifically made for the stm32 line? 2016-05-16T23:53:16 < kakimir> you use headers specific for your mcu series that have offsets for register addresses 2016-05-16T23:53:28 < englishman> these will be included in the cmsis libs 2016-05-16T23:53:52 < englishman> in your stm32fxxxxx.h 2016-05-16T23:54:49 < kakimir> my guru told me that he knows someone who writes his own register headers and he deeply admires him 2016-05-16T23:54:49 < daey> ah right, those are standardized 2016-05-16T23:55:24 < kakimir> but it's mental not to use provided solid header 2016-05-16T23:56:00 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-16T23:56:28 < englishman> ok evrything is compiling except my startup file 2016-05-16T23:56:34 < englishman> that is included but just isnt getting parsed 2016-05-16T23:57:15 < englishman> no, the gcc startup .s 2016-05-16T23:58:28 < daey> btw. i have this 'strange' issue that gcc complains about ' warning: no previous prototype' if the function is declared as 'void function(....' adding a static before it fixes it :/ 2016-05-16T23:58:44 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-16T23:58:44 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-05-16T23:58:49 < daey> never seen that behavior before 2016-05-16T23:59:36 < daey> ohsix: its a tiny test program. just one function then main. 2016-05-16T23:59:56 < daey> so yeah its def. defined before its being used --- Day changed Tue May 17 2016 2016-05-17T00:00:30 < daey> hmm gcc doesnt do that even with -Wall 2016-05-17T00:03:17 < daey> yes, putting a declaration directly above the definition fixes it :P 2016-05-17T00:06:20 < daey> well am i doing it wrong all the time? or is this warning bullshit? 2016-05-17T00:06:56 < daey> i mean when i use a 2nd c file i always add a headerfile with said declarations 2016-05-17T00:07:07 < daey> ah i see 2016-05-17T00:08:17 < kakimir> prototypes are mandatory? 2016-05-17T00:08:22 < kakimir> didn't know that 2016-05-17T00:10:50 < kakimir> if there is no prototype... who cares and why? 2016-05-17T00:11:38 < kakimir> oh 2016-05-17T00:12:48 < kakimir> so otherwise it needs to scoop that information from func def 2016-05-17T00:12:51 < upgrdman> wtf. lpc1768 ssp (spi) periph only has a half-full rx fifo interrupt. no way to get interrupt for it except half full or overflow :/ 2016-05-17T00:13:11 < daey> im currently flashing my arm test processor via 'st-flash write flash.bin 0x8000000'. I noticed that i always have two flash it twice. On the uneven attempts the SPI doesnt start :P 2016-05-17T00:13:19 < daey> any idea what might be the cause? 2016-05-17T00:13:31 < upgrdman> how the fuck would you setup an spi slave and have it respond immediately to new data with this lpc1768 trash 2016-05-17T00:13:43 < daey> upgrdman: how do you know its a slave 2016-05-17T00:13:53 < upgrdman> im making the lpc1768 a slave 2016-05-17T00:13:58 < upgrdman> im writing the firmware for it 2016-05-17T00:14:09 < daey> nvm. bad timing 2016-05-17T00:14:27 < daey> ohsix: nono it doesnt fail. st-flash says flash written and verified 2016-05-17T00:14:52 < daey> the start sequence on which im triggering with my analyzer works flawless as well, just the spi afterwards doesnt start 2016-05-17T00:14:59 < kakimir> upgrdman: you doing full duplex? 2016-05-17T00:15:04 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-17T00:15:23 < kakimir> I needed to pull some of my hair to understand it 2016-05-17T00:15:51 < upgrdman> well its easy to understand the User Guide, but the periphs are basic toys 2016-05-17T00:15:58 < upgrdman> ohsix, there isnt one 2016-05-17T00:16:13 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-17T00:16:20 < upgrdman> its 8 transfers. period. :/ 2016-05-17T00:16:53 < kakimir> just wait a sec I open my project 2016-05-17T00:16:55 < upgrdman> well its one memory mapped register 2016-05-17T00:17:17 < kakimir> one register is used for both rx and tx? 2016-05-17T00:17:23 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-17T00:17:27 < upgrdman> LPC_SSPx->DR 2016-05-17T00:18:21 < MightyPork> hello, guys, sorry to interrupt.. but someone got time to help me debug my messed up power supply circuitry? 2016-05-17T00:18:30 < MightyPork> made a board and fucked up really hard it seems 2016-05-17T00:18:42 < MightyPork> think I misused ferrite bead or something 2016-05-17T00:18:47 < MightyPork> it odes indeed 2016-05-17T00:19:06 < MightyPork> f303 actually, but whats causing the trouble is esp8266 2016-05-17T00:19:50 < MightyPork> okay so the question: I have 12V -> 3.3V with LDO (yes, too big drop, high dissipation etc etc, that I figured out already why its going super hot) 2016-05-17T00:19:53 < MightyPork> but the real problem 2016-05-17T00:20:07 < MightyPork> the 3.3V goes to a ferrite, and then there's 3V on the output 2016-05-17T00:20:15 < MightyPork> I have caps there 2016-05-17T00:20:22 < MightyPork> can it be they are too small, or whats the deal? 2016-05-17T00:20:27 < kakimir> upgrdman: and isn't it that tx half empty and rc half full occur at the same time? 2016-05-17T00:20:33 < MightyPork> the current flowing through it is 100 mA 2016-05-17T00:20:36 < upgrdman> ferrite not rated for enough current? 2016-05-17T00:20:38 < MightyPork> in spikes 2016-05-17T00:20:54 < MightyPork> hmm. I used what I got, without really checking 2016-05-17T00:21:10 < upgrdman> kakimir, ya 2016-05-17T00:21:14 < upgrdman> i think 2016-05-17T00:22:10 < kakimir> so you have like another of them set in operation 2016-05-17T00:22:27 < kakimir> and when it occurs you check receive fifo is full 2016-05-17T00:22:29 < kakimir> then read 2016-05-17T00:22:31 < MightyPork> I was thinking I dont have enough caps so they dont have time to recharge 2016-05-17T00:22:33 < kakimir> then write 2016-05-17T00:22:40 < kakimir> that's it? 2016-05-17T00:22:55 < upgrdman> dont, if you dont have to 2016-05-17T00:23:02 < upgrdman> at least not the lpc1768. its such aids 2016-05-17T00:23:22 < kakimir> lpc17xx is the aids series 2016-05-17T00:23:27 < kakimir> but cheap and everywhere 2016-05-17T00:23:58 < kakimir> lpc43xx comes for almost same price btw. 2016-05-17T00:24:12 < MightyPork> oh, I get the voltage drop even without the load connected. can a ferrite be bad? 2016-05-17T00:24:25 < kakimir> DC voltage? 2016-05-17T00:24:49 < kakimir> multimeter leakage being.. few microamps? 2016-05-17T00:24:50 < MightyPork> yea 2016-05-17T00:24:57 < MightyPork> leakage? 2016-05-17T00:25:09 < kakimir> measurement current 2016-05-17T00:25:24 < MightyPork> oh. I can't really measure that, it's on a pcb 2016-05-17T00:26:04 < kakimir> what you measure with what? 2016-05-17T00:26:38 < kakimir> lpc15xx and ones after that series look nice 2016-05-17T00:26:47 < kakimir> not so dirty 2016-05-17T00:26:53 < MightyPork> oh nvm, my bad, there's no drop without the load. messed up my power supply settings 2016-05-17T00:28:11 < kakimir> upgrdman: why it's actually half full or hald empty they use I don't know 2016-05-17T00:29:03 < upgrdman> well it makes sense, but why not have it adjustable or also have an interrupt-for-every-byte interrupt 2016-05-17T00:29:06 < kakimir> rather than some closer to interrupt delay number of bits left 2016-05-17T00:29:14 < upgrdman> mainly for when the mcu will be an spi slave 2016-05-17T00:29:25 < upgrdman> like how the fuck do you respond in time otherwise 2016-05-17T00:29:41 < kakimir> also why to have seperate rx and tx half states 2016-05-17T00:29:41 < upgrdman> without requiring >=4 bytes of dead time 2016-05-17T00:30:09 < kakimir> run the mcu suppah fast 2016-05-17T00:30:56 < kakimir> tx or rx both are sync when full duplex 2016-05-17T00:31:13 < kakimir> when just another one.. what is the need for other? 2016-05-17T00:31:42 < kakimir> does stm32 have better interrupt for spi? 2016-05-17T00:32:31 < kakimir> maybe nxp decided for customer that he is not in hurry with spi communication anyways 2016-05-17T00:32:51 < kakimir> clocking it down to just few megabits per second 2016-05-17T00:33:39 < MightyPork> oh, I'm so dumb, didn't realize the ferrite choke has a non-zero resistance 2016-05-17T00:33:40 < kakimir> and leaving sensible interrupt out of peripheral design 2016-05-17T00:34:11 < MightyPork> 4Ω. holy.. that explains everything 2016-05-17T00:34:15 < kakimir> MightyPork: some small shiette? 2016-05-17T00:34:28 < MightyPork> it's 1206 2016-05-17T00:34:37 < MightyPork> 27mH, I think 2016-05-17T00:34:43 < MightyPork> clearly not the right choice 2016-05-17T00:34:46 < kakimir> its fukken now? 2016-05-17T00:36:20 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-05-17T00:41:08 < ReadError> LSE is only for RTC tho 2016-05-17T00:41:15 < ReadError> so why would you want to use it 2016-05-17T00:42:01 < aadamson> Pretty sure LSE can be used for other things. Granted it's a clock source for RTC, but it depends on the ARM, rtc can be clocked from LSI, etc and LSE can be used for other things 2016-05-17T00:42:24 < ReadError> like what 2016-05-17T00:42:40 < ReadError> i mean, how would you specify other things to use LSE? 2016-05-17T00:42:47 < ReadError> on stm32 anyways 2016-05-17T00:42:52 < aadamson> dunno, have to look at the clock tree and see 2016-05-17T00:43:28 < ReadError> for rtc ? 2016-05-17T00:43:43 < ReadError> im confused 2016-05-17T00:45:41 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T00:50:21 < ReadError> wth is MSI ? 2016-05-17T00:50:26 < ReadError> oh nm 2016-05-17T00:50:34 < aadamson> so I thought so, LSE can drive timer 9, 10, 11 ETR, also the RTC and the LCD (and I just looked at the L1 as an example) 2016-05-17T00:51:37 < aadamson> on the L), there is only an LSE input, there is no HSE (well at least the small versions anyway - 32pin qfn, etc) 2016-05-17T00:51:45 < aadamson> on the l0... 2016-05-17T00:52:02 < ReadError> thats kinda strange 2016-05-17T00:52:11 < aadamson> correct only the RC on the L0 2016-05-17T00:52:18 < aadamson> well, again, on the small ones 2016-05-17T00:52:27 < aadamson> I think some of the larger pincount variants have HSE 2016-05-17T00:52:41 < aadamson> yeah and 52 2016-05-17T00:53:25 < ReadError> something to do with power savings? 2016-05-17T00:53:31 < aadamson> sheesh, just realized on the L1, you can clock the whole thing from the LSE if you wanted 2016-05-17T00:55:04 < aadamson> the clock trees are your friend... course, then you have to figure out *if* and *how* to do what it says you can do, and usually prove the the ST docs suck because you can't... lol 2016-05-17T00:55:46 < aadamson> you could wind and release and be faster :) 2016-05-17T00:56:10 < aadamson> rubber band powered ... 2016-05-17T01:07:47 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T01:10:42 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T01:17:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T01:46:15 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad686.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-17T02:01:25 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:417:2e6:9835:1411] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T02:06:29 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T02:16:13 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T02:20:28 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T02:35:12 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T02:35:21 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T02:41:47 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-17T02:53:22 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T02:59:33 < Laurenceb_> soon you will be able to go waterboarding on a all expenses paid holiday to Trump resort Guantanemo 2016-05-17T03:06:20 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjeapbidmibfgyou] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T03:07:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T03:09:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-17T03:09:55 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T03:10:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T03:19:52 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T03:30:43 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-17T03:38:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-17T03:45:20 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-05-17T03:46:02 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T03:54:41 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T04:15:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T04:21:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T04:29:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T04:35:21 < dongs> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DEUPIE 2016-05-17T04:44:52 < upgrdman> picked up some fast servos so i can build another balancing robot 2016-05-17T04:45:11 < upgrdman> hold shit... fast. 0.05 sec 2016-05-17T04:45:14 < upgrdman> holy* 2016-05-17T04:45:23 < upgrdman> but god damn they draw a fuckton of current 2016-05-17T04:45:29 < dongs> thats usually how it works 2016-05-17T04:45:30 < upgrdman> at 7.4V, stalled, its >8 amps 2016-05-17T04:45:33 < dongs> nice 2016-05-17T04:45:36 < dongs> yeah sounds about right 2016-05-17T04:46:13 < dongs> some dickhead bought some $250 servos for his helicopter junk through me, i wonder what the specs on those were 2016-05-17T04:46:16 < upgrdman> ohsix, http://www.amazon.com/Savox-Coreless-Digital-Voltage-SV1274MG/dp/B00HX1IA60 2016-05-17T04:46:33 < upgrdman> and YES, i did go full retard and spent $100 on some servo for a shit robot project 2016-05-17T04:46:39 < dongs> nice 2016-05-17T04:47:16 < upgrdman> i needed them quick, since im be back to shanghai soon and need to get the hardware all done before my flight 2016-05-17T04:47:32 < dongs> haha, they're shipping you back so soon already? 2016-05-17T04:47:40 < upgrdman> we'll see if the TSA anally probes me to taking this shit on the plane 2016-05-17T04:47:50 < upgrdman> dongs, ya. another two month enslavement :( 2016-05-17T04:47:50 < dongs> they must really like you 2016-05-17T04:48:03 < dongs> awesoem 2016-05-17T04:49:07 < dongs> http://www.servodatabase.com/servo/futaba/bls275sv upgrdman < the servos pal bought 2016-05-17T04:49:25 < dongs> ah i guess maybe its spensive cuz brushless 2016-05-17T04:49:29 < upgrdman> nice 2016-05-17T04:49:39 < upgrdman> i like my old futaba radio 2016-05-17T04:49:40 < dongs> no idea on current specs tho 2016-05-17T04:49:45 < upgrdman> liked* sold it years ago 2016-05-17T04:50:15 < upgrdman> but jeez, $250 street price for a servo 2016-05-17T04:50:59 < upgrdman> when i used to work in that industry, it was always nice to see some airplane guy trying to buy his way into good piloting skills. 2016-05-17T04:51:19 < upgrdman> one got bought like 30 of the $200 servos from me over the course of two months 2016-05-17T04:52:31 < dongs> mfkr that savox trash is rated in oz-in 2016-05-17T04:52:34 < dongs> futaba is kg/cm 2016-05-17T04:52:35 < dongs> fucking 2016-05-17T04:53:27 < dongs> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=97.2+oz*in+to+kgf 2016-05-17T04:53:28 < dongs> is that it? 2016-05-17T04:53:41 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T04:54:15 < upgrdman> its 7kg-cm 2016-05-17T04:54:25 < upgrdman> http://www.convertunits.com/from/kg+cm/to/oz+in 2016-05-17T04:54:41 < upgrdman> rc people dont use kg-f 2016-05-17T04:54:56 < ReadError> ya its all oz-in 2016-05-17T04:55:26 < upgrdman> well oz-in in the USA, kg-cm in europe and asia 2016-05-17T04:55:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-17T04:55:42 < upgrdman> hmm. maybe s/usa/english-speaking countries 2016-05-17T04:55:43 < dongs> emeb ragequittin' 2016-05-17T04:55:52 < dongs> too much non-stm32 talk 2016-05-17T04:57:01 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-17T04:57:40 < dongs> anyway lookin forward to chinese segway blogging 2016-05-17T04:57:48 < dongs> add a battery explosion mode to it 2016-05-17T04:57:54 < dongs> randomly selected 2016-05-17T04:58:00 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-17T04:58:14 < dongs> "fuck you, i dont wanna balance anything today, i'll just burn lipo instead" 2016-05-17T04:58:17 < upgrdman> it'll be blogged to dicktube, but i may not be able to upload videos until im back in the first world 2016-05-17T04:58:26 < upgrdman> indeed 2016-05-17T04:58:37 < upgrdman> "and this is what happens when h-bridges shoot through" 2016-05-17T04:59:11 < dongs> noone to blame on that one but yourself 2016-05-17T04:59:16 < dongs> making shitty pcb for wrong timers 2016-05-17T04:59:19 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-17T05:00:04 < upgrdman> well i made the pcb like 2 years ago, and i used TIM2 because i want the glorious 32bit timer and wasnt planning to nig rig it years later to drive half-brdiges 2016-05-17T05:00:38 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T05:01:44 < dongs> do yo uat least get faster pcb prototyping when youre in china 2016-05-17T05:03:17 < upgrdman> dongs, yes but only for work shit 2016-05-17T05:03:20 < upgrdman> like 4 days 2016-05-17T05:03:40 < dongs> cant you sneak in your own shit into it 2016-05-17T05:03:44 < upgrdman> but dirty pcbs got my shit to me in the usa in 7 days. not bad at all 2016-05-17T05:03:59 < upgrdman> i could, but they usually do thick green pcbs 2016-05-17T05:04:01 < dongs> im sure SJWvana will ship to china 2016-05-17T05:04:02 < upgrdman> like 2mm or some shit 2016-05-17T05:04:19 < dongs> (from china) 2016-05-17T05:04:30 < upgrdman> and the quality is only a little better than Dirty Dicks 2016-05-17T05:04:37 < dongs> yeah no surprise there 2016-05-17T05:04:41 < dongs> have yet to find china fab that isnt aids 2016-05-17T05:05:53 < upgrdman> surprisingly, the china fab we use is happy to sell us one pcb. one. i was like lol really... and they dont mind 2016-05-17T05:06:03 < upgrdman> but why the fuck do my coworkers order only one 2016-05-17T05:06:07 < upgrdman> pisses me right off 2016-05-17T05:07:49 < englishman> That's 4 days without assembly? 2016-05-17T05:08:01 < dongs> pretty sure he just means blank pcbs 2016-05-17T05:08:15 < englishman> Not that great, figured you'd have a bunch of 100rmb dudes dicking and placing 2016-05-17T05:08:16 < dongs> 4 days is noraml thats what my local place is for standard prototype turna round 2016-05-17T05:08:22 < englishman> Yeah but China 2016-05-17T05:08:58 < upgrdman> englishman, atm we're in the dev phase, so no dick-n-placing a run 2016-05-17T05:09:22 < dongs> dickstart phase 2016-05-17T05:09:28 < upgrdman> im sure we could get like next day, but 4 days is fast enough. it's not like we have nothing else to work on 2016-05-17T05:09:38 < englishman> place kitten on keyboard, wait, press compile, repeat 2016-05-17T05:10:52 < dongs> fucking acorbat update reinstalled the fucking accessilbility plugin 2016-05-17T05:10:58 < dongs> every time i have to delete that shit 2016-05-17T05:11:11 < dongs> CANNOT INFER READING ORDER FROM DOCUMENT DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE THIS FUCKING WINDOW AS FAST AS POSSIBLE 2016-05-17T05:11:23 < englishman> which one are you on? 2016-05-17T05:11:25 < englishman> DC is awful 2016-05-17T05:11:27 < englishman> uninstalled 2016-05-17T05:11:30 < dongs> XI 2016-05-17T05:11:36 < dongs> it works fine 2016-05-17T05:11:43 < englishman> ok will get 2016-05-17T05:11:44 < dongs> accessilbiltiy aids is the only rage, and its solved by deleting the plugin 2016-05-17T05:12:07 < dongs> just gotta do it after each update cuz they seem to carea bout blind people 2016-05-17T05:15:26 < upgrdman> what the fuck. these Savox dildos epoxy'd over the microcontroller in their servo 2016-05-17T05:15:56 < dongs> duh 2016-05-17T05:16:03 < dongs> why would you even take it apart 2016-05-17T05:16:15 < dongs> even $3 HK sevros scratch out the part# of whatever shitty driver ic 2016-05-17T05:16:18 < upgrdman> do i can directly dick with the h-bridge 2016-05-17T05:16:33 < dongs> RIP $100 servo 2016-05-17T05:16:41 < upgrdman> exactly 2016-05-17T05:16:41 < dongs> you think you can do better than china??????????? 2016-05-17T05:16:57 < upgrdman> im gonna mod it for continuous rotation 2016-05-17T05:17:09 < upgrdman> and want fine speed control, so their shit wont work 2016-05-17T05:17:50 < upgrdman> on my old segway robot i just made a pcb with my own h-bridges. now i wanna be lazy and just reuse the h-bridges that came with the servos 2016-05-17T05:18:27 < upgrdman> old segway pcb here http://www.farrellf.com/temp/robot_pcb_revB.jpg 2016-05-17T05:18:59 < dongs> oh so you also wired it into a raped servo? 2016-05-17T05:19:07 < upgrdman> of course 2016-05-17T05:19:09 < upgrdman> you have to 2016-05-17T05:21:24 < upgrdman> thx 2016-05-17T05:21:28 < dongs> upgrdman: why cant you just be normal like typical arduino guys and just control servo with PWM? 2016-05-17T05:21:38 < upgrdman> i tried that back in 2013 2016-05-17T05:21:46 < upgrdman> problem is the center point drifts a little over time 2016-05-17T05:22:04 < upgrdman> so segway robot starts to slowly turn on its own after like a minute 2016-05-17T05:22:22 < dongs> because the shitty servo pot is not accurate or wahtever? 2016-05-17T05:23:16 < dongs> hm so back to lookin for a 16ch pwm led driver 2016-05-17T05:23:21 < dongs> TLC59xx is not in china 2016-05-17T05:23:26 < dongs> wonder if some st stuff is more common 2016-05-17T05:23:36 < Lux> upgrdman: i bet you could just use the imu to compensate for that 2016-05-17T05:24:25 < upgrdman> dongs, well you remove the pot since you need continuous rotation. solder in a voltage divider. but im guessing tempco of the resistors, or cheap 3v3 reg in the servo drifts 2016-05-17T05:25:11 < upgrdman> this was when i tried driving the servos like an ardutard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6ktFL0ybk 2016-05-17T05:25:35 < upgrdman> Lux, could but you also have poor control over motor speed since theses only a small range before the servos to full throttle 2016-05-17T05:26:12 < upgrdman> and i FUCKING HATE how ~all servos use low pwm frequencies. is it so fucking hard to go supersonic. wtf. 2016-05-17T05:26:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T05:26:30 < englishman> cant you get fartaba shit.bus servvos 2016-05-17T05:26:40 < englishman> or do they not make what you need 2016-05-17T05:26:56 < englishman> 100kbps serial and ~100hz refresh iirc 2016-05-17T05:27:28 < Lux> hmm, ya using servos with 50hz pwm seems kinda dumb 2016-05-17T05:28:30 < upgrdman> its not the frame rate that's a problem 2016-05-17T05:29:18 < upgrdman> if you mod a servo for continuous rotation, you replace the pot with a fixed voltage divider. when you give the servo a signal, there is very little range from that center point where you have proportional control over the motor speed 2016-05-17T05:29:55 < upgrdman> like typical hobby servo signal is a active-high pulse of 1.5ms +/- 0.6ms 2016-05-17T05:30:17 < upgrdman> and you might only be able to use 5% of that range if you mod the servo for continuous rotation 2016-05-17T05:35:47 < Lux> yeah, that's retarded 2016-05-17T05:35:59 < Lux> just pwm directly and have more control 2016-05-17T05:36:06 < upgrdman> so exactly 2016-05-17T05:36:10 < Lux> probably that stuff would be nice to use http://ams.com/eng/Products/Magnetic-Position-Sensors 2016-05-17T05:36:18 < upgrdman> and it a brushed motor, so one timer can do it all 2016-05-17T05:36:58 < Lux> i saw it uses in the openservo project: http://openservo.com/OpenEncoder 2016-05-17T05:37:09 < upgrdman> Lux, some RC brands have tried magnetic sensors (as a premium thing) and last i heard they all suck. 2016-05-17T05:37:18 < upgrdman> the small ones are fragile and expensive 2016-05-17T05:37:29 < upgrdman> the fragile part is a deal breaker for RC 2016-05-17T05:37:30 < Lux> the as ones work well 2016-05-17T05:37:53 < Lux> quality engineering from austria ;) 2016-05-17T05:38:08 < Lux> at least the ones i got did 2016-05-17T05:55:26 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T06:04:00 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-17T06:07:06 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T06:22:50 < dongs> PeterM: ELL-VEG2R2N !! 2016-05-17T06:23:45 < dongs> i got that stuff sent by mistake a few years ago instead of VLF and I found a board on which they fit into existing fgootprint 2016-05-17T06:24:18 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T06:26:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T06:26:41 < kisielk> what's going on ? 2016-05-17T06:34:10 < dongs> hm, but i cant buy it anyway 2016-05-17T06:34:12 < dongs> fff 2016-05-17T06:35:01 < englishman> how was the snow today flyback 2016-05-17T06:49:03 < dongs> innovatin' 2016-05-17T06:49:56 < dongs> no 2016-05-17T06:50:09 < dongs> correct 2016-05-17T06:57:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-17T07:04:32 < dongs> flyback: who teh fuck are you talking to 2016-05-17T07:13:37 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eshnppilzshcmzfx] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T07:19:35 < dongs> PeterM: current sensor is just like 10 resistor shunts in parallel 2016-05-17T07:20:02 < dongs> and some linear and ST IC 2016-05-17T07:24:54 < Rob235> school is boring 2016-05-17T07:28:45 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T07:31:51 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-17T07:31:56 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-17T07:55:49 < Rob235> why, because your cunt is always shitty? 2016-05-17T08:03:05 < Rob235> I really don't want to write a 25 page paper 2016-05-17T08:03:53 < dongs> post on freelancer 2016-05-17T08:03:54 < dongs> let some paki do it 2016-05-17T08:04:40 < Rob235> meh, I have 10 weeks to write it 2016-05-17T08:07:36 < Rob235> I'm looking at the names of the people in my class, what kind of parents would give their child a tongue twister for a name? 2016-05-17T08:07:43 < Rob235> Tristan Christensen 2016-05-17T08:08:15 < Rob235> maybe not a tongue twister but it's a pain in the ass to say 2016-05-17T08:09:22 < upgrdman> theres some things on this board that look like SMD resistors, but their markings are 01B and 01A instead of a resistance, and they measure slightly different resistance depending on which direction you probe them. http://www.farrellf.com/temp/servo_pcb.jpg 2016-05-17T08:10:40 < ds2> what size? 2016-05-17T08:10:43 < dongs> err 2016-05-17T08:10:44 < ds2> 0402 sized? 2016-05-17T08:10:48 < dongs> upgrdman: thats just 1% 0603 markings 2016-05-17T08:10:52 < dongs> they are resistors 2016-05-17T08:10:55 < ds2> if so, that's a code for resistors 2016-05-17T08:10:56 < dongs> 01A is 100R i think 2016-05-17T08:11:06 < ds2> dongs: they are used with 0603 too? 2016-05-17T08:11:10 < dongs> yes 2016-05-17T08:11:13 < dongs> my 1% 0603s have them 2016-05-17T08:11:20 < upgrdman> hmm ok 2016-05-17T08:11:30 < dongs> 01C = 10K, 01A = 100R 2016-05-17T08:11:36 < upgrdman> weird that they measure like 1K in one direction, and 850 in the other. consistently too :/ 2016-05-17T08:11:53 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-17T08:11:54 < dongs> er, havent you learned anything about measuring in-circuit 2016-05-17T08:11:57 < ds2> got a diode or transistor in there? 2016-05-17T08:12:11 < upgrdman> oh ya lol oops 2016-05-17T08:12:41 < dongs> thats weird that they would mix 1% adn 5% stuff 2016-05-17T08:12:55 < dongs> i mean when a reel is like $3 2016-05-17T08:12:57 < dongs> of 1% 2016-05-17T08:12:59 < dongs> teh fuck does it matter?? 2016-05-17T08:13:19 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-17T08:13:43 < dongs> whats the gay blob? 2016-05-17T08:13:48 < dongs> is that the mcu? 2016-05-17T08:14:13 < upgrdman> i think so 2016-05-17T08:14:20 < dongs> weird package 2016-05-17T08:14:22 < dongs> any idea what it is? 2016-05-17T08:14:26 < dongs> some kinda msop? 2016-05-17T08:14:37 < dongs> clearly not SO-8 so 2016-05-17T08:14:38 < upgrdman> theres also like a little msop on the other side, with blob too 2016-05-17T08:14:42 < upgrdman> no idea 2016-05-17T08:14:44 < dongs> o 2016-05-17T08:14:47 < dongs> mhm 2016-05-17T08:14:48 < upgrdman> BUT it runs off of 5V 2016-05-17T08:14:55 < upgrdman> theres a fucking 5V LDO on this shit 2016-05-17T08:14:57 < upgrdman> on the back 2016-05-17T08:15:02 < dongs> nice 2016-05-17T08:15:29 < upgrdman> the back is like an ldo, some tants and a blobs msop 2016-05-17T08:18:38 < upgrdman> hmm it looks like they have the motor pins also going to the mcu. wonder why 2016-05-17T08:19:00 < upgrdman> maybe to monitor the voltage at the motor pins... but why 2016-05-17T08:19:17 < Rob235> sucks when a torrent is stuck at 99+% and no one has the last 10-20 megs 2016-05-17T08:20:33 < Rob235> no it's not 2016-05-17T08:20:57 < Rob235> people don't seem to like x265 HEVC videos 2016-05-17T08:21:37 < dongs> Rob235: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-17T08:22:16 < Rob235> is that just because it's ohsix? 2016-05-17T08:24:08 < Rob235> I make stupid comments all the time unrelated to stm32, it's my way of getting my mind off what I'm working on, think about random shit and type it out :) 2016-05-17T08:49:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-23b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T09:05:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-23b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T09:06:54 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T09:10:24 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T09:35:50 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T09:36:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T09:42:38 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-17T09:44:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T09:45:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T09:45:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T09:47:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-17T09:49:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-17T10:01:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T10:06:21 < PeterM> dongs pics of insides? could probably just gte a real shunt and wire it in to the sense lines 2016-05-17T10:33:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.168] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T10:53:41 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjeapbidmibfgyou] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-17T11:24:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@cable-82-119-4-193.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T11:54:26 < dongs> PeterM: later, at my other office now 2016-05-17T11:54:34 < dongs> also that pana coil shit i duno where i got it, chinagirl doesnt have 2016-05-17T11:54:37 < PeterM> no worries 2016-05-17T11:54:37 < dongs> ownt again 2016-05-17T11:54:50 < PeterM> rekt 2016-05-17T11:55:19 < PeterM> fuck it jsut buy all of avnets stock of the orig TDK shit then re-do the boards + stencils 2016-05-17T11:58:59 < PeterM> http://www.findchips.com/search/VLF3010AT-2R2M1R0 - mind me askin how much they cost from .cn? 2016-05-17T11:59:43 < PeterM> like 15c or somethin? 2016-05-17T12:04:37 < karlp> oh boy, the things you find whenyou google an odd looking filename: https://github.com/mbauman/mmake 2016-05-17T12:08:10 < PeterM> jesus fuck, thats like "RSU A minimal subset of SU, implemented in relays, for an elevator" 2016-05-17T12:17:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-17T12:23:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.40] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T12:35:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T12:45:07 < dongs> PeterM: uya something like that lemme see 2016-05-17T12:45:29 < dongs> VLF3010AT-2R2M1R0 SMD 300 $0.1100 2016-05-17T12:50:50 < zyp> karlp, haha 2016-05-17T12:56:35 < PeterM> maybe keep buying chinatrash nad jsut get some solderpaste with mroe hardcore flux 2016-05-17T12:56:40 -!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T12:59:16 < dongs> im just gonan try getting from another dude 2016-05-17T12:59:25 < dongs> maybe who didn't store it in open air for 5 years 2016-05-17T12:59:33 < dongs> cuz it hasnt been a problem until very recently, just ferw months 2016-05-17T12:59:37 < dongs> ive been using this shit for yaers 2016-05-17T13:00:49 < PeterM> thats fair 2016-05-17T13:06:04 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T13:26:04 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T13:38:59 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eshnppilzshcmzfx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-17T13:43:23 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T13:55:39 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T13:59:02 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T14:02:26 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-17T14:05:36 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-17T14:13:22 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T14:20:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.40] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-17T14:20:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.40] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T14:44:05 < Ecco> If I want to measure the tension of a battery using the ADC 2016-05-17T14:44:47 < Ecco> since I use an LDO (and therefore feed the STM32 a tension that is lower than that of the battery) 2016-05-17T14:44:58 < ReadError> karlp never seen the ToleranUX linux? 2016-05-17T14:44:59 < Ecco> I have to somehow divide the battery voltage before measurement, right? 2016-05-17T14:45:14 < jpa-> Ecco: yep 2016-05-17T14:45:20 < ReadError> linux for feminisit 2016-05-17T14:45:25 < jpa-> resistor divider + cap 2016-05-17T14:45:30 < Ecco> why the cap? 2016-05-17T14:45:43 < ReadError> filter 2016-05-17T14:45:45 < Ecco> also, won't the resistor divider put a load on the battery? 2016-05-17T14:45:48 < ReadError> smooth 2016-05-17T14:45:50 < Ecco> ReadError: filter what? 2016-05-17T14:46:06 < jpa-> nah, it is to buffer it so that the ADC sample time can be set shorter 2016-05-17T14:46:10 < Ecco> It's not like the battery's tension shouls have any high-frequency oscillations 2016-05-17T14:46:17 < Ecco> oh, I see 2016-05-17T14:46:26 < jpa-> and yes, the resistor divider will load the battery, but if you use the cap you can use >100kohm resistance 2016-05-17T14:46:36 < qyx> also you .. 2016-05-17T14:46:37 < qyx> yes 2016-05-17T14:46:38 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-17T14:47:15 < jpa-> the adc sample cap is 4pF, so anything >= 10nF should be fine 2016-05-17T14:47:19 < Ecco> so the cap should be between the ADC and the ground, or does it have to be between the battery and gnd 2016-05-17T14:47:26 < jpa-> adc and ground 2016-05-17T14:47:28 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-17T14:47:35 < Ecco> jpa-: is there some doc I could read on that topic? 2016-05-17T14:47:50 < jpa-> ref man says something about it in a confusing way 2016-05-17T14:47:54 < Ecco> (because thank you for the info but I don't want ot bother you with what I guess is a pretty common quesiton) 2016-05-17T14:48:58 < jpa-> yeah, i don't really know any good docs on the subject 2016-05-17T14:49:02 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-05-17T14:49:07 < Ecco> So I'll just take notes 2016-05-17T14:49:13 < Ecco> 10 nF, 100kohm 2016-05-17T14:49:30 < dongs> anyone remember off the top of their head if shit like TLC5947 needs to keep clocking or just shift stuff out and leave it and it'll stay at that brigthness 2016-05-17T14:49:42 < dongs> i have that shit somewehre wiht a stm8 board but im to lazy to find it 2016-05-17T14:50:56 < jpa-> it does say "4 MHz internal oscillator" 2016-05-17T14:51:04 < dongs> yes, i know 2016-05-17T14:51:15 < dongs> i just rejected a part because it needed some 'gsclk' bullshit 2016-05-17T14:51:28 < dongs> and like 8 pins for control 2016-05-17T14:51:39 < dongs> i never thought finding a cheap/common pwm driver would be so difficult 2016-05-17T14:52:40 < dongs> heh right 2016-05-17T14:52:46 < dongs> so this asshole has 29 channels to blink 2016-05-17T14:53:02 < dongs> couldnt find a non-retarded 16 channel driver 2016-05-17T14:53:06 < dongs> so wasting a pair of 24 channel 2016-05-17T14:54:33 < kakimir> on off? 2016-05-17T14:54:37 < dongs> nawh 2016-05-17T14:54:38 < kakimir> pwm? 2016-05-17T14:54:41 < dongs> right 2016-05-17T14:54:44 < dongs> on-off is easy 2016-05-17T14:54:48 < dongs> i have tons of hceap garbage 2016-05-17T14:54:53 < dongs> just dont wanna deal with software pwm'iong it 2016-05-17T14:55:55 < kakimir> i have some spi controlled 16channel thing 2016-05-17T14:56:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T14:56:41 < Ecco> Is there any reputable switch manufacturer? 2016-05-17T14:56:41 < kakimir> 200mA outbutts 2016-05-17T14:56:44 < dongs> useless 2016-05-17T14:56:48 < dongs> its huge then 2016-05-17T14:56:49 < kakimir> half bridge even 2016-05-17T14:56:55 < Ecco> (I'd like to browse their catalog) 2016-05-17T14:56:58 < dongs> i just need to blink pink leds 2016-05-17T14:57:10 < dongs> Ecco: C&K? alps? etc 2016-05-17T14:57:14 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-17T14:57:15 < dongs> panasonic? 2016-05-17T14:57:31 < dongs> why not goto digikey.com/search/switches or somethin 2016-05-17T14:57:56 < ReadError> amazon.com/search/ti-89 2016-05-17T14:57:58 < Ecco> Yes I could, but I wouldn't know which ones are supposed to be the best 2016-05-17T15:00:51 < PeterM> ecco, as a rule of thumb, most switches/connectors etc that you buy from dk wont be trash - dk has too good of a rep to sell trash usually 2016-05-17T15:01:13 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-17T15:01:15 < Ecco> Thanks! 2016-05-17T15:06:40 < Ecco> How am I supposed to compute the value of a pull-up or pull-down resistor? 2016-05-17T15:07:15 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:c94b:3ab9:7e2e:edef] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:10:25 < dongs> the lower it is, the more battery it will waste 2016-05-17T15:10:31 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-17T15:10:55 < Ecco> but what's the upper limit? 2016-05-17T15:11:12 < jpa-> leakage currents from datasheet & the accuracy you need 2016-05-17T15:11:25 < Ecco> I didn't get it 2016-05-17T15:11:40 < Ecco> What happens if the resistor is "too high"? 2016-05-17T15:11:47 < PeterM> also, the time it takes to fill the capacitor between samples, and the amoutn of current needed to stop the capacitor from discharging 2016-05-17T15:12:48 < jpa-> Ecco: the measurement gets inaccurate 2016-05-17T15:14:52 < Ecco> oh, excuse me 2016-05-17T15:15:05 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-17T15:15:05 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/xLLssKd.png how long would that take to draw in eagle or kikecad? 2016-05-17T15:15:09 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-17T15:15:12 < dongs> this was 5 clicks in altium 2016-05-17T15:15:24 < Ecco> dongs: please tell me how you did that 2016-05-17T15:15:50 < jpa-> dongs: i'm not sure you could draw it in kicad :) 2016-05-17T15:16:21 < jpa-> because IIRC kicad does not support curvy traces 2016-05-17T15:16:28 < Ecco> Here's the pad I made: http://i.imgur.com/qrfq3jN.png 2016-05-17T15:16:35 < dongs> 1: outer arc 2: inner arc 3: pl, draw one peg from lower arc 4: copy peg, array paste, radial, 18 degrees. 5: draw peg from top, edit>move>rotate, shift by 9 degrees 6: copy peg, array paste, 18 degrees again 2016-05-17T15:16:39 < dongs> sorry, 6 steps. 2016-05-17T15:16:42 < dongs> easy tho 2016-05-17T15:16:51 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-17T15:16:53 < Ecco> thanks 2016-05-17T15:17:04 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:c94b:3ab9:7e2e:edef] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-05-17T15:17:10 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:c94b:3ab9:7e2e:edef] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:17:17 < dongs> jpa-: not curvy traces 2016-05-17T15:17:23 < jpa-> ah, pad 2016-05-17T15:17:32 < dongs> just circle and lines 2016-05-17T15:17:50 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-17T15:18:33 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:19:03 < dongs> fuck just murdered a mosquito and it actaully sprayed blood everywehre 2016-05-17T15:21:09 < PeterM> mosquito suckign blood from arm. patiently wait until very full. quickly, but smoothly tense arm muscle. watch mosquito try and let go as you explode poor mosquito. 2016-05-17T15:21:44 < eft> does that actually work? ive heard stories of it but have yet to successfully blow up a mosquito 2016-05-17T15:22:09 < PeterM> sure 2016-05-17T15:22:38 < Ecco> Why would the mosquito blow up? 2016-05-17T15:23:12 < eft> tensing muscle increases pressure, mosquito cant regulate it, fills up, explodes 2016-05-17T15:23:23 < jpa-> Ecco: supposedly the blood pressure is too much for its structure 2016-05-17T15:23:23 < Ecco> I call bullshit on this :) 2016-05-17T15:24:09 < jpa-> maybe one has to be a pizza-eater for it to work 2016-05-17T15:25:11 < Ecco> Best ad ever :) 2016-05-17T15:26:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.153] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:27:53 < eft> its one of those things where nobody has ever seen it done, they just know someone who has seen it done :p 2016-05-17T15:28:10 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:31:56 < Ecco> http://www.alps.com/prod/info/E/image/Switch/Tact/SKRK/SKRK_D_12.GIF 2016-05-17T15:32:02 < Ecco> That's the pad for an SMT button 2016-05-17T15:32:08 < Ecco> what does "Resist plating" mean? 2016-05-17T15:33:32 < ReadError> pretty big/easy fluke scam going on 2016-05-17T15:33:39 < ReadError> they have that spend $$$ get free shit 2016-05-17T15:33:55 < ReadError> well, you only show them an online invoice + proof of shipment 2016-05-17T15:34:07 < ReadError> they dont require any cutouts or anything else 2016-05-17T15:34:16 < Ecco> what do you get in return? 2016-05-17T15:34:21 < ReadError> wonder how many people are buyin shit, submitting and then returning 2016-05-17T15:34:40 < ReadError> oh, I got a DMM and get a fluke 117 + no contact current measuring thing 2016-05-17T15:36:48 < ReadError> new meter is pretty kewl tho 2016-05-17T15:37:09 < ReadError> lets you zero a measurement 2016-05-17T15:37:20 < ReadError> so you can see only the change 2016-05-17T15:42:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-17T15:53:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:53:24 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T15:58:42 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-17T15:59:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:01:25 -!- kafs [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:03:40 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-17T16:04:35 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:07:32 < Ecco> :-) 2016-05-17T16:12:39 < Ecco> Is it possible to fashion a device with 2 inputs (vin1, vin2) and a single output 2016-05-17T16:12:56 < Ecco> and that would do "vout = max(vin1,vin2)" 2016-05-17T16:13:35 < Laurenceb_> is dat some matlab? 2016-05-17T16:13:57 < Ecco> huh, maybe, I don't know 2016-05-17T16:14:02 < Ecco> it's just something I made up 2016-05-17T16:14:13 < Ecco> I'd like my device to be powered from USB when plugged in 2016-05-17T16:14:24 < Ecco> and have it live off the battery when unplugged 2016-05-17T16:19:31 < dongs> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3053711 quality stuff here 2016-05-17T16:23:11 < kafs> is it a good idea to use stm32duino? http://www.stm32duino.com/index.php Using Arduino library on the bargain stm32 sounds like a good idea. What do folks here say? 2016-05-17T16:23:33 < dongs> why? 2016-05-17T16:23:40 < Fleck> everything arduino is bad here kafs 2016-05-17T16:23:42 < dongs> 99% ofrtarduino libs are retarded low quality garbage 2016-05-17T16:23:50 < dongs> what eaxctly do you gain? 2016-05-17T16:24:08 < dongs> Ecco: http://www.electronic-products-design.com/wp-content/uploads/pcb_switch_pads.jpg the 2nd one on the right looks cute 2016-05-17T16:24:22 < kafs> dongs: err... arduino libraries are easy to use. good for people like me. not smart but not retarded either 2016-05-17T16:24:23 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-05-17T16:24:34 < Ecco> That's for a backlight key I guess 2016-05-17T16:24:43 < dongs> ya 2016-05-17T16:24:43 < Ecco> I wonder why they masked the right part 2016-05-17T16:24:51 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:24:56 < ReadError> http://www.stm32duino.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=81 2016-05-17T16:25:01 < ReadError> what if we make a custom programmer for STM32 using an AVR arduino? 2016-05-17T16:25:16 < dongs> no like serious 2016-05-17T16:25:17 < ReadError> these guys are serious too heh 2016-05-17T16:25:23 < dongs> lets take a platform that works 2016-05-17T16:25:26 < dongs> with debuggers, etc 2016-05-17T16:25:31 < dongs> dumb it down into arduino ide 2016-05-17T16:25:35 < dongs> ???????????????? 2016-05-17T16:25:40 < dongs> so you can printf debug 2016-05-17T16:25:45 < dongs> and reuse shitty code? 2016-05-17T16:25:46 < dongs> okay, sure. 2016-05-17T16:27:13 < Ecco> Is there an easy way to hardware-reset an STM32 when plugging it on and off USB? 2016-05-17T16:27:38 < dongs> ? 2016-05-17T16:28:05 < Ecco> I'd like to use USB only for DFU 2016-05-17T16:28:11 < ReadError> dont some people use a transistor or something 2016-05-17T16:28:17 < ReadError> to reset itself 2016-05-17T16:28:20 < Ecco> so i could hook BOOT0 to USB-vbus 2016-05-17T16:28:45 < Ecco> but I would then need to reset the device 2016-05-17T16:28:57 < Ecco> and again, when unplugged from USB, I really want to leave DFU 2016-05-17T16:29:00 < Ecco> so I'd like to reset again 2016-05-17T16:30:22 < dongs> damn dude. 2016-05-17T16:30:27 < dongs> you should like 2016-05-17T16:30:30 < dongs> just make the calculator 2016-05-17T16:30:30 < dongs> and shut up 2016-05-17T16:30:41 < dongs> before ytou come up with dumber ideas 2016-05-17T16:30:43 < ReadError> buy a ti-89 2016-05-17T16:30:47 < ReadError> or a smartphone app 2016-05-17T16:37:52 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:41:08 < Laurenceb_> ti-86+ ftw 2016-05-17T16:43:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:43:25 < Ecco> :) 2016-05-17T16:43:39 < Laurenceb_> the basic interpreter is horrible slow 2016-05-17T16:43:41 < Ecco> Why would it be a bad idea to use DFU when plugged on USB? 2016-05-17T16:43:59 < Laurenceb_> I tried to write a wireframe graphics game and managed about 2fps 2016-05-17T16:45:39 < Laurenceb_> if you are uber pro you can use Z80 asm 2016-05-17T16:48:55 < Laurenceb_> not a great deal :P 2016-05-17T16:49:00 < Laurenceb_> good for learning 2016-05-17T16:49:04 -!- kafs [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T16:49:16 * Laurenceb_ is looking at Rpi zero camera 2016-05-17T16:50:09 < Laurenceb_> it looks good for high speed, until you realise h264 encode maxes out at 68fps 2016-05-17T16:50:13 < Laurenceb_> rageeee 2016-05-17T16:50:28 < Laurenceb_> maybe its possible to stick everything into ram or something 2016-05-17T16:51:01 < Laurenceb_> the hardware should manage 180fps or so 2016-05-17T16:51:15 < Laurenceb_> but it seems to be crippled by having to sue h264 on the gpu 2016-05-17T16:51:20 < Laurenceb_> *use 2016-05-17T16:51:26 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-17T16:53:20 < Laurenceb_> "rawcam code can capture the raw Bayer data, but register sets are under NDA" 2016-05-17T16:53:24 < Laurenceb_> so much fail 2016-05-17T16:54:24 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:55:06 < Rob235_> x.x 2016-05-17T16:55:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-17T16:56:26 < Laurenceb_> theres enough ram to save 1.5s of video or so 2016-05-17T16:56:31 < Laurenceb_> enough for rockoon launch 2016-05-17T16:57:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T16:57:52 < englishman> *enough for rockoon failure 2016-05-17T16:58:15 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-17T17:02:45 -!- CRTT [~autiste@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T17:03:15 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T17:04:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-17T17:09:40 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-05-17T17:16:51 < dongs> damn 2016-05-17T17:16:53 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wddpznpzqyikiwcv] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T17:16:55 < dongs> circuitnigger is 550megs now 2016-05-17T17:17:01 < dongs> getting bloated 2016-05-17T17:17:08 < Ecco> still cant save localy? 2016-05-17T17:17:13 < dongs> why would it 2016-05-17T17:17:17 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T17:17:35 < Ecco> well, sometimes it helps 2016-05-17T17:20:30 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T17:28:56 < ReadError> Ecco defeats the entire model behind it 2016-05-17T17:29:08 < Ecco> I'm pretty sure it does SVN behind the scene 2016-05-17T17:29:20 < Ecco> and that one could run a small proxy to get a full blown Altium for free 2016-05-17T17:29:22 < ReadError> maybe, its a paid service 2016-05-17T17:29:25 < ReadError> dont get it twisted 2016-05-17T17:29:36 < ReadError> wat 2016-05-17T17:29:55 < dongs> Ecco: except circuitdonger is lacking all the altium keyboard hotkeys 2016-05-17T17:30:01 < dongs> so its completely useless 2016-05-17T17:30:03 < Ecco> and they aren't customizable 2016-05-17T17:30:04 < Ecco> indeed 2016-05-17T17:30:44 < ReadError> not being able to save local is a dealbreaker and the hotkey shit 2016-05-17T17:31:03 < dongs> oh fucker 2016-05-17T17:31:05 < ReadError> they should let you export altiums for a fixed price 2016-05-17T17:31:10 < ReadError> or something.. 2016-05-17T17:31:12 < dongs> citcuit shit did incremental update 2016-05-17T17:31:14 < dongs> i installed 1.1 2016-05-17T17:31:17 < dongs> and now it wanst to downlaod 1.2 2016-05-17T17:31:35 < dongs> .. another 521meg download 2016-05-17T17:31:36 < dongs> THANKS ALTIUM 2016-05-17T17:31:48 < kakimir> hello dongs 2016-05-17T17:32:08 < ReadError> what pisses me off about win10 is the forced reboots 2016-05-17T17:32:13 < ReadError> i get it, you installed updates 2016-05-17T17:32:18 < ReadError> fuck off with trying to reboot my shit 2016-05-17T17:32:49 < kakimir> I think it only happens if you try to piss without booting ever 2016-05-17T17:32:59 < kakimir> like weeks and months 2016-05-17T17:33:16 < dongs> ReadError: gpedit.msc bro 2016-05-17T17:33:25 < ReadError> oh? 2016-05-17T17:33:27 < kakimir> I don't recall but one major revision update that forced reboot 2016-05-17T17:33:30 < dongs> set updates to ask for download 2016-05-17T17:33:33 < ReadError> didnt know there was a group policy shit 2016-05-17T17:33:38 < ReadError> im fine with it downloading them 2016-05-17T17:33:40 < dongs> anmd while y oure there turn off windows defender 2016-05-17T17:33:43 < ReadError> i just dont like how they strong arm the reboots 2016-05-17T17:33:43 < dongs> yeah you can set that too 2016-05-17T17:33:47 < dongs> just not autoinstall 2016-05-17T17:33:53 < dongs> its in same policy 2016-05-17T17:34:01 < ReadError> like theres no option to say "ill reboot when im ready" 2016-05-17T17:34:09 < dongs> https://4sysops.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Stop-automatic-updates-in-Group-Policy-editor.png 2016-05-17T17:34:16 < dongs> choose 3 2016-05-17T17:34:17 < dongs> done 2016-05-17T17:34:35 < dongs> thats acutally been there since xp as the title says. 2016-05-17T17:34:46 < kakimir> use lunix for stuff that requires uptimes 2016-05-17T17:34:57 < dongs> except pre-10 ui let you choose. 2016-05-17T17:34:59 < kakimir> it's simple how you do it 2016-05-17T17:35:19 < dongs> i'm making a symbol for shift register 2016-05-17T17:36:34 < kakimir> so you after all go with shift register? 2016-05-17T17:36:46 < dongs> not for leds 2016-05-17T17:36:53 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/XA0DHH7W/mmc-2016-05-17-10-36-41.png 2016-05-17T17:36:54 < kakimir> I bummed some 16channel .. ok 2016-05-17T17:36:58 < ReadError> looks like this is what i want 2016-05-17T17:37:00 < dongs> kakimir: wat did you have 2016-05-17T17:37:11 < kakimir> a sec 2016-05-17T17:37:12 < dongs> ReadError: just disable the fucking install alltogether 2016-05-17T17:37:38 < ReadError> 3 is default though? 2016-05-17T17:37:48 < dongs> you have to enable it first 2016-05-17T17:37:50 < dongs> instead of "not configured" 2016-05-17T17:37:55 < ReadError> i c 2016-05-17T17:38:01 < dongs> if its not configured it has no effect 2016-05-17T17:39:21 < kakimir> http://www.ti.com.cn/cn/lit/ds/symlink/sn74cb3t16210.pdf I have these... 2016-05-17T17:39:33 < dongs> wut 2016-05-17T17:39:42 < ReadError> why are you using ti.com.cn 2016-05-17T17:39:48 < kakimir> whops 2016-05-17T17:39:50 < kakimir> google 2016-05-17T17:40:02 < dongs> chinacloner 2016-05-17T17:40:19 < kakimir> now I don't really know how I ended up with this and what it even is 2016-05-17T17:42:00 < kakimir> I have been stoned or maybe I have some other bit shit register on my shelf 2016-05-17T17:42:36 < kakimir> I think I had some with half bridges 2016-05-17T17:45:21 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-17T17:46:52 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T17:48:21 < englishman> dongs: where is gpedit.msc in win home 2016-05-17T17:48:28 < ReadError> just start typing it 2016-05-17T17:48:31 < englishman> or is it easy to upgrade to pro with ebay key 2016-05-17T17:48:31 < englishman> ? 2016-05-17T17:48:32 < ReadError> group policy 2016-05-17T17:48:34 < ReadError> and it comes up 2016-05-17T17:48:35 < englishman> win home 2016-05-17T17:48:44 < englishman> id call you a nigger but i know youll like it 2016-05-17T17:48:51 < englishman> win home doesnt have gpedit 2016-05-17T17:49:01 < ReadError> ok 2016-05-17T17:49:03 < englishman> wigger 2016-05-17T17:49:04 < englishman> ! 2016-05-17T17:49:09 < ReadError> im so hurt 2016-05-17T17:49:17 < dongs> englishman: i think needs reinstall. anyway, that gpedit entry is just a registry key 2016-05-17T17:49:48 < englishman> yes but how to generate them 2016-05-17T17:50:52 < dongs> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU 2016-05-17T17:51:18 < dongs> AUOptions DWORD inside that, set to 2 or 3 2016-05-17T17:51:31 < dongs> or just install pro 2016-05-17T17:51:43 < englishman> i had done that 2016-05-17T17:51:47 < englishman> but it still reboots :( 2016-05-17T17:51:54 < englishman> with 2 2016-05-17T17:52:17 < dongs> i also have NoAutoUpdate DWORD in there with 0 2016-05-17T17:52:20 < dongs> duno if its relevant 2016-05-17T17:52:29 < englishman> that i dont have 2016-05-17T17:53:31 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/GUAS/regedit-2016-05-17-10-53-25.png 2016-05-17T17:53:41 < ReadError> add it? 2016-05-17T17:53:54 < englishman> yes added will see if that does the duty 2016-05-17T17:54:03 < englishman> that loggedon one too 2016-05-17T17:57:47 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T17:58:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T18:19:10 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T18:22:37 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T18:30:34 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T18:30:41 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T18:37:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T18:39:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T18:39:18 < upgrdman> uarts transfer data LSBit first, right? 2016-05-17T18:39:40 < dongs> er, you can configure? i thought 2016-05-17T18:41:11 < kakimir> as it has been discussed about.. there is no one single way 2016-05-17T18:48:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-17T19:02:29 < dongs> does CDI have online chat 2016-05-17T19:02:30 < dongs> i dont see it 2016-05-17T19:10:23 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T19:12:00 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T19:15:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T19:23:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-17T19:23:46 < kakimir> flyback: doesn't involve live coding 2016-05-17T19:24:11 < kakimir> *furious 2016-05-17T19:31:57 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-17T19:34:42 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T19:34:56 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T19:35:38 < Rob235_> hi 2016-05-17T19:35:44 -!- Rob235_ is now known as Rob235 2016-05-17T19:35:47 < Rob235> hi 2016-05-17T19:38:35 < Steffanx> lo 2016-05-17T19:40:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@94.234.170.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T19:45:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:00:37 < kakimir> fi 2016-05-17T20:01:43 < kakimir> movierecs? 2016-05-17T20:02:10 < Rob235> I just finished frequencies a couple min ago 2016-05-17T20:02:15 < Rob235> I'd recommend it 2016-05-17T20:08:11 < kakimir> no drama+romance stuff 2016-05-17T20:09:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:09:24 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:09:57 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:12:41 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T20:13:03 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-17T20:15:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.92] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:21:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@94.234.170.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-17T20:21:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@94.234.170.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:40:39 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:41:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@94.234.170.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-17T20:41:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-5eeaaa4c-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T20:46:27 < daey> where do i find the stm32f4xx.h headerfile/library? 2016-05-17T20:46:55 < daey> i assumed that would be something provided by the manufacturer 2016-05-17T20:47:07 < Rob235> are you using an ide? 2016-05-17T20:47:22 < daey> no im trying to do it with arm-none-eabi only 2016-05-17T20:48:17 < Fleck> download Cube F4 2016-05-17T20:52:08 < daey> Fleck: it contains the whole cmsis? 2016-05-17T20:54:45 < Fleck> yes 2016-05-17T21:01:52 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T21:02:29 < Rob235> is it easy going from stdPeriph to cube? 2016-05-17T21:02:56 < daey> my god it even includes the startup files 2016-05-17T21:04:32 < kakimir> your god - creates project boilerplates for you 2016-05-17T21:05:06 < Rob235> are there text editors with code auto-completion or whatever you want to call it? where it will suggest as you type? or is that just in IDEs 2016-05-17T21:06:00 < kakimir> and read also minds? 2016-05-17T21:06:11 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-17T21:06:30 < daey> i think the 3letter word triggered something in him 2016-05-17T21:07:06 < kakimir> sometimes I try to write text with auto-completion buttons such as tab 2016-05-17T21:07:29 < kakimir> like .txt 2016-05-17T21:08:01 < kakimir> *keys 2016-05-17T21:08:23 < kakimir> Rob235: in lunix - kate 2016-05-17T21:08:55 < Rob235> wtf are you talking about? 2016-05-17T21:09:56 < kakimir> https://kate-editor.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/kate5-on-windows1.png didn't know it's on windows too 2016-05-17T21:10:19 < Fleck> *wincrap 2016-05-17T21:11:09 < Rob235> well I'd prefer os x but do most of my work in vmware windows 10 since all IDEs seem to be for windows 2016-05-17T21:12:07 < kakimir> Rob235: like after long session on terminal there is this tab key reflex to fill in words. so I try to shitpost and end up writing first letters 2016-05-17T21:18:35 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T21:37:06 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad686.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T21:42:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-17T21:49:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T21:51:10 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T21:52:03 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-17T21:52:06 < Tectu> barthess, ping 2016-05-17T21:54:44 < Rob235> so much to do, so little time 2016-05-17T21:55:25 < Tectu> better hire some mexicans 2016-05-17T21:56:17 < Rob235> it's a 25 page paper... I want to pass the class 2016-05-17T21:56:57 < Tectu> oh, same here 2016-05-17T21:57:45 < Rob235> sucks 2016-05-17T21:58:35 < Tectu> yes it does 2016-05-17T21:59:45 < daey> all i need is the 'stm32f411xe.h' ? o0 2016-05-17T22:15:12 < ReadError> you have to add some shit to other files also 2016-05-17T22:15:27 < ReadError> where it checks the defines for the MCU 2016-05-17T22:15:35 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-17T22:15:38 < daey> yeah i imported the whole Driver folder for now :P 2016-05-17T22:15:55 < daey> theres tons of internal referencing happening 2016-05-17T22:20:38 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T22:26:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-17T22:27:42 -!- rewolff [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T22:32:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T22:49:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T22:50:17 < upgrdman> god damn... running place&route on this project is bringing my surface to its knees. 100% cpu for the last 20 minutes :/ 2016-05-17T22:51:09 < bvernoux> autorouter is always a bad idea ;) 2016-05-17T22:51:27 < upgrdman> ya, cause im gonna manually route fpga logic, lol 2016-05-17T22:54:37 < Ultrasauce> if you arent manually crafting that bitstream in a hex editor you're not a real developer 2016-05-17T22:54:49 * upgrdman nods 2016-05-17T22:55:21 < upgrdman> there should be an ArtisanBitstreams channel or someshit 2016-05-17T22:55:37 < upgrdman> azon would probably hang out in there heheh 2016-05-17T22:57:33 < upgrdman> oh fuck 2016-05-17T22:57:34 < upgrdman> WARNING: The design is too congested to route. Maximum run time (3 hours) is 2016-05-17T22:57:35 < upgrdman> automatically set. 2016-05-17T22:57:35 < upgrdman> To turn this auto-exiting feature off, please set -exp nbrMaxRunTime=0. 2016-05-17T22:57:51 < upgrdman> time to dev a better algorithm instead of brutedicking it 2016-05-17T22:59:22 < daey> it is possible to make designs that would fit inside the slice amount but are not routable? 2016-05-17T23:04:36 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T23:05:13 < ReadError> are you using kicad?? 2016-05-17T23:05:26 < bvernoux> For those fan of FaceDancer21 2016-05-17T23:05:36 < bvernoux> I have done a new improved version https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/5OIocCZF 2016-05-17T23:05:44 < ReadError> ohh fpga routing 2016-05-17T23:06:54 < bvernoux> upgrdman: SSD really improve place&route 2016-05-17T23:08:09 < daey> pretty sure he has one 2016-05-17T23:08:47 < daey> besides, is there even much disk reading involved during the process? 2016-05-17T23:09:03 < bvernoux> with Xilinx ISE yes ;) 2016-05-17T23:09:12 < bvernoux> even if you have 16GB of RAM or more ... 2016-05-17T23:09:19 < bvernoux> and multicore was very badly used ... 2016-05-17T23:09:21 < daey> that sounds, odd 2016-05-17T23:09:53 < bvernoux> it is the major problem for VHDL/Verilog it is so slow to build bitstream ... 2016-05-17T23:13:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-5eeaaa4c-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-17T23:15:32 < upgrdman> bvernoux, ya i have m.2 ssd, 512gb 2016-05-17T23:15:46 < upgrdman> but still, this design is fucked. i was lazy. im fixing it 2016-05-17T23:15:47 < upgrdman> lo 2016-05-17T23:15:53 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-17T23:20:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-17T23:25:51 < kakimir> there seems to be a tonne of very innovative futuristic shorts in youtubes 2016-05-17T23:25:59 < kakimir> short - movie 2016-05-17T23:26:58 < kakimir> I kept watching some deus ex trailers and find some indie movie and so on 2016-05-17T23:31:53 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T23:32:30 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T23:41:24 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-17T23:41:52 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T23:43:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-17T23:43:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-17T23:49:58 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-17T23:52:51 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] --- Day changed Wed May 18 2016 2016-05-18T00:01:57 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad686.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-18T00:03:03 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-18T00:28:03 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T00:29:03 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T00:48:28 < daey> im trying to run this example on a nucleof411RE http://lpaste.net/163607. Problem is i am getting a big amount of 'undeclared' errors 2016-05-18T00:48:43 < daey> i think its a project folder setup issue 2016-05-18T00:49:27 < daey> does anyone happen to know an working environment/project that does something basic on said platform? 2016-05-18T00:50:15 < ReadError> have you updated your CMSIS ? 2016-05-18T00:51:39 < daey> i downloaded the current version of STM32Cube. put the whole thing into my project folder and linked the necessary headerfiles 2016-05-18T00:52:49 < daey> http://lpaste.net/163608 thats my 'makefile' 2016-05-18T00:53:46 < ReadError> and what error do you get? 2016-05-18T00:54:44 < daey> http://lpaste.net/163609 2016-05-18T00:55:18 < daey> http://lpaste.net/163610 thats the main file 2016-05-18T00:57:12 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T00:57:41 < daey> what i noticed is that the example includes '...4xx_rcc.h', while i can only find '...4xx_hal_rcc.h' but im guessing ST simply changed the naming of the files? 2016-05-18T00:57:44 < ReadError> you are missing the header files for the HAL or stdperiph 2016-05-18T00:57:49 < ReadError> w/e they are using in cube.. 2016-05-18T00:58:06 < ReadError> grep your dirs for that function 2016-05-18T00:58:21 < ReadError> stuff looks pretty fucked though 2016-05-18T00:58:31 < daey> yes 2016-05-18T00:59:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T01:00:01 < daey> but what do you mean with missing header files? ive included the two relevant ones, didnt i? 2016-05-18T01:00:23 < ReadError> SystemInitError 2016-05-18T01:00:51 < daey> ah well those are 'just' warnings 2016-05-18T01:00:52 < ReadError> ehh 2016-05-18T01:00:53 < ReadError> thats warning 2016-05-18T01:00:54 < ReadError> main.c:6:18: error: 'RCC_AHB1Periph_GPIOD' undeclared (first use in this function) 2016-05-18T01:00:57 < ReadError> first error 2016-05-18T01:01:06 < ReadError> but you shouldnt have those warnings 2016-05-18T01:01:11 < daey> yep. which should be in the hal_rcc 2016-05-18T01:01:45 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T01:02:08 < daey> theres an _rcc_ex.h 2016-05-18T01:02:56 < ReadError> wats donging 2016-05-18T01:06:52 < daey> ohsix: idk. this example seems to do just fine without custom definitions: http://blog.mark-stevens.co.uk/2013/03/stm32-simple-gpio-and-some-flashing-leds/ (at the bottom, just above the Oscil. screenshot) 2016-05-18T01:10:39 < daey> well apparently i can not do it how i am doing it right now 2016-05-18T01:11:43 < daey> problem is its frickn complex and extremely hard to debug for an outsider :/ 2016-05-18T01:12:47 < daey> my first attempt should be to dump down the size of this gigantic folder 2016-05-18T01:13:30 < daey> i only need the Driver folder and the start/link script from the Projects folder, correct? 2016-05-18T01:14:46 < ReadError> daey you dont have his make file though do you? 2016-05-18T01:14:54 < ReadError> thats where all the shit you are missing would be 2016-05-18T01:15:01 < daey> i see 2016-05-18T01:15:40 < daey> well my makefile is essentially a result from a tutorial http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f9hiE4P8I_0J:regalis.com.pl/en/arm-cortex-stm32-gnulinux/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-b 2016-05-18T01:16:21 < daey> but the stm32f4xx is at the very top :/ 2016-05-18T01:17:05 < daey> that was a copy paste from the tutorial: thats my main.c http://lpaste.net/163610 2016-05-18T01:19:24 < ReadError> whats in your system.c ? 2016-05-18T01:19:47 < daey> http://lpaste.net/163618 2016-05-18T01:20:00 < daey> http://lpaste.net/163620 2016-05-18T01:20:18 < ReadError> you not defining the 411 ? 2016-05-18T01:22:53 < daey> the -I part sounds good 2016-05-18T01:23:03 < daey> what do yu mean with 'not defining the 411?' 2016-05-18T01:24:24 < Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/10841398 2016-05-18T01:24:59 < ReadError> you need to have a define in the code for stm32f411xx or w/e 2016-05-18T01:25:14 < ReadError> or in the make file 2016-05-18T01:25:38 < ReadError> i suggest not piecing shit together from 3 different sites 2016-05-18T01:25:42 < ReadError> and expecting it to work... 2016-05-18T01:25:49 < daey> yeah im using -DSTM32F411xE 2016-05-18T01:25:56 < ReadError> only on 1 line though? 2016-05-18T01:26:15 < ReadError> http://lpaste.net/163608 2016-05-18T01:26:38 < ReadError> its not defined anywhere but the 2nd to last line 2016-05-18T01:34:39 < daey> thanks for you help. i continue tomorrow...gotta get some sleep 2016-05-18T01:36:16 < Laurenceb_> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Ben_Garrison 2016-05-18T01:38:08 < ReadError> unfunny 2016-05-18T01:39:25 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bfxl0-sgJE0 2016-05-18T01:48:52 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-18T01:50:47 < Laurenceb_> gawker.com 2016-05-18T01:53:28 < ReadError> lol Laurenceb_ of all people commenting on urls posted 2016-05-18T01:54:19 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-18T01:56:46 < __rob> Anyone using altium ? 2016-05-18T01:58:54 < Laurenceb_> Capitalist 2016-05-18T02:01:39 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-18T02:02:05 < __rob> you know how I can convert a Solid Region to a Polygon Pour 2016-05-18T02:02:22 < __rob> it should be easy, they are both the same thing 2016-05-18T02:02:45 < __rob> a polygon, should be able to just pick from a drop down or something but it seems impossible 2016-05-18T02:09:52 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T02:11:29 < ReadError> __rob 2016-05-18T02:11:32 < ReadError> i think you select it 2016-05-18T02:11:37 < ReadError> then t-g-m 2016-05-18T02:11:47 < ReadError> and you can say like, use selected 2016-05-18T02:11:49 < ReadError> or something? 2016-05-18T02:13:31 < __rob> well I tried to use the covert stuff 2016-05-18T02:13:33 < __rob> none of it worked 2016-05-18T02:13:40 < __rob> its all from converting from lines 2016-05-18T02:13:43 < __rob> not other polygon types 2016-05-18T02:14:49 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/EWTR/vmware-2016-05-17-19-14-40.png 2016-05-18T02:14:52 < ReadError> __rob 2016-05-18T02:15:30 < ReadError> crt quit trying to hard 2016-05-18T02:16:07 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-18T02:16:25 < ReadError> nope 2016-05-18T02:16:42 < __rob> I tried that 2016-05-18T02:16:51 < __rob> does it actaully work for you 2016-05-18T02:16:52 < __rob> ? 2016-05-18T02:17:01 < __rob> I had the solid region selected 2016-05-18T02:17:13 < __rob> so much shit with altium 2016-05-18T02:17:39 < __rob> even their docs say the enum for object types there is one called "ePolyRegionObject", actually no its "eRegionObject" 2016-05-18T02:21:26 < __rob> ReadError, Just tried again "selected" means selected from existing Pours 2016-05-18T02:21:32 < __rob> not selected in the layout 2016-05-18T02:21:45 < ReadError> hmm ive done it before 2016-05-18T02:22:22 < ReadError> http://jesusfuck.me/di/00SR/vmware-2016-05-17-19-22-15.png 2016-05-18T02:23:08 < ReadError> great 2016-05-18T02:25:41 < ReadError> sorry, you must have confused me with someone that gave a shit 2016-05-18T02:25:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T02:38:55 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-18T02:44:51 < Laurenceb_> zyklon crt is here 2016-05-18T02:53:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-18T02:58:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:00:06 < Laurenceb_> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Ben_Garrison 2016-05-18T03:00:16 < Laurenceb_> just stealing ideas from there 2016-05-18T03:04:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:09:01 < dongs> readstoner cloning more shit 2016-05-18T03:09:16 < dongs> emeb_mac: yo remember those RGB china encoders? 2016-05-18T03:09:21 < dongs> did you know bourns makes a clone? 2016-05-18T03:09:30 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T03:09:32 < emeb_mac> dongs: didn't know that 2016-05-18T03:09:39 < dongs> http://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/PEL12T.pdf?sfvrsn=5 2016-05-18T03:09:45 < emeb_mac> cool - thx. 2016-05-18T03:09:48 < emeb_mac> gotta go... 2016-05-18T03:09:48 < dongs> and you can actually get them from digikey, for retarde dprices of course 2016-05-18T03:09:51 < dongs> enjoy 2016-05-18T03:09:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-18T03:10:03 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:15:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T03:33:45 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-18T03:36:09 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:45:20 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:46:06 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/Te5jFxG.jpg 2016-05-18T03:46:42 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T03:46:43 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-18T03:47:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@24.244.23.166] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:49:08 < fenugrec_> Does ##stm32 use HP 16500 rigs for analog work ? does the UI suck as much as it seems to on screenshots ? 2016-05-18T03:49:25 < Laurenceb_> I'm not rich enough :( 2016-05-18T03:49:56 < fenugrec_> Laurenceb_: they pop up on ebay for not too much $, especially in "too newb to test, sold as-is" condition 2016-05-18T03:50:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@24.244.23.166] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T03:50:56 < dongs> looks like aids 2016-05-18T03:51:09 < dongs> any modern tek scope has digital inputs 2016-05-18T03:51:16 < dongs> that you can logicanalyze shit wihtr 2016-05-18T03:51:26 < dongs> why would you want some huge thing from 1980 2016-05-18T03:51:26 < fenugrec_> "modern tek scope" won't sell for < 400$ though. 2016-05-18T03:51:27 < Laurenceb_> yeah I use cheap tek shit 2016-05-18T03:51:27 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-18T03:51:42 < dongs> fenugrec_: well no shit if thats your target why not just use a buttpirate or somethig simlar 2016-05-18T03:51:57 < dongs> or even a shitty 100mhz saleae 2016-05-18T03:52:03 < dongs> then you get to work with awful software 2016-05-18T03:52:28 < fenugrec_> dongs: 16500 are sometimes loaded with solid cards (on paper), 2GS/s analog cards, 100/500MHz LA cards 2016-05-18T03:52:45 < fenugrec_> so, something midrange between shitty logic16 clones and k$ tek gear ? 2016-05-18T03:53:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T03:55:28 < fenugrec_> they're huge 1980 anvils, yea (and a dubious choice of UI colors, the cyan + magenta palette is... debatable) but I can't justify a 5k scope, and Rigol, well, meh 2016-05-18T03:56:23 < Thorn> afaik used anvils cost more 2016-05-18T03:56:37 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-18T03:57:00 < Laurenceb_> saleae software actually work 2016-05-18T03:57:07 < Laurenceb_> unlike buttpirate 2016-05-18T03:57:17 < Laurenceb_> buttpirate suckzorz 2016-05-18T03:57:38 < Laurenceb_> but don't use saleae, grab china clone and steal the gui shit 2016-05-18T03:57:44 < Laurenceb_> works for me 2016-05-18T03:58:13 < dongs> their software is so shit I would never support them by buying thier legit hardware 2016-05-18T03:58:31 < dongs> in all these fucking years of selling shit, they still havent made the sw usable 2016-05-18T03:58:34 < dongs> so fuck that trash 2016-05-18T03:58:44 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-05-18T03:58:49 < fenugrec_> I'm getting ok results with a logic16 clone + sigrok (needed to make a custom protocol decoder), but I want better 2016-05-18T04:00:20 < fenugrec_> but damn those 16500 are hueg 2016-05-18T04:07:03 < Laurenceb_> oh wait 2016-05-18T04:07:16 < Laurenceb_> I wasn't using the saleae software 2016-05-18T04:07:18 < Laurenceb_> herp derp 2016-05-18T04:07:33 < Laurenceb_> some random cloneware 2016-05-18T04:07:33 < dongs> yeah if you were you'd know it 2016-05-18T04:07:38 < dongs> cuz its garbage 2016-05-18T04:14:40 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T04:18:00 < dongs> do people using eagle ever name nets? 2016-05-18T04:18:04 < dongs> holy fuck man 2016-05-18T04:18:19 < dongs> lets haev a connector here with 10 wires coming out of it and not a single label 2016-05-18T04:19:09 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T04:19:58 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/aTz3JaF.jpg 2016-05-18T04:21:57 < dongs> safe sticker 2016-05-18T04:22:27 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T04:24:50 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T04:24:57 < upgrdman> fucking lol'd https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3053711 2016-05-18T04:26:09 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T04:26:09 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-05-18T04:33:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-18T04:37:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T04:44:11 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/3FOYNcN.gifv 2016-05-18T04:45:13 < upgrdman> oh, so much better: http://i.imgur.com/p8tTZUf.gifv 2016-05-18T04:45:18 < upgrdman> dongs ^ that second link 2016-05-18T04:50:24 < upgrdman> another amusing RC clip http://i.imgur.com/IsXOlzg.gifv 2016-05-18T04:50:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:2493:525d:39b7:7347] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T05:01:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T05:04:51 < aandrew> still flies better than zano 2016-05-18T05:04:56 < dongs> 22:19 < dongs> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3053711 quality stuff here 2016-05-18T05:04:56 < dongs> 10:24 < upgrdman> fucking lol'd https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3053711 2016-05-18T05:05:07 < dongs> note timestamps 2016-05-18T05:05:26 < upgrdman> 2015 2016-05-18T05:05:27 < upgrdman> ? 2016-05-18T05:05:35 < upgrdman> oh 2016-05-18T05:05:37 < upgrdman> oops lol 2016-05-18T05:08:22 -!- haw [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T05:31:24 < upgrdman> so i know this is "a bad idea"... but the adc pins on stm32 have ESD diodes right? so if i dont mind a clipped reading, and IF i use big series resistor, you could feed the pin >VDD right? use a resistor so the clamped current is <0.5mA ? 2016-05-18T05:36:47 < Thorn> the sample&hold circuit is not going to like that very much 2016-05-18T05:37:00 < haw> I encounter this multi-processor communication option while configuring uart inside cubemx. May I ask what is multi-processor communication? there is not dual-core CPU in stm32 2016-05-18T05:40:46 < dongs> im gonna guess some passthrough uart thing 2016-05-18T05:40:49 < dongs> multidrop? or someshit 2016-05-18T05:42:08 < haw> dongs, uart passthrough should be simple thing to implement. Whatever is received from one port is sent to another uart port and vice versa. one can implement by hand. Wonder why they need a separate mode for this. 2016-05-18T05:42:17 < dongs> shruggin 2016-05-18T05:42:36 < dongs> why do they have HDMI CEC thing when it can just bitbang gpio 2016-05-18T05:50:01 < haw> Inside cubeMX UART configuration, under NVIC settings, I see global interrupt/wake-up interrupt through EXT1 line 25. What's the difference between enabling it and not enabling? 2016-05-18T05:50:23 < dongs> line 25 sounds like some internally routed shit 2016-05-18T05:50:30 < dongs> since theres only 16 external lines. 2016-05-18T05:50:38 < dongs> so probably somethin to dow ith uart receiving data and triggering wake up 2016-05-18T05:50:42 < haw> i'm using stm32f0 2016-05-18T05:50:46 < dongs> doesnt matter. 2016-05-18T05:50:48 < dongs> just use common sense 2016-05-18T05:51:46 < haw> dongs, using common sense now. if i enable it, power consumption will be lower because MCU can go to sleep when no data is being received. when data is received, MCU wakes up. Something like that? 2016-05-18T05:52:30 < dongs> probably, of coruse you'd need to set that up and actually go to sleep when you ahve no data etc. 2016-05-18T05:52:36 < dongs> but is your shit battery powered? 2016-05-18T05:52:48 < dongs> because unless it is, the difference isnt gonna be significant enough to g ive a shit 2016-05-18T05:52:57 < haw> dongs, seems like it's a no-brainer to enable it. what is there to lose? 2016-05-18T05:53:15 < dongs> all the extra code you;lll be writing for nothing 2016-05-18T05:53:37 < haw> dongs, isn't those code auto-generated? 2016-05-18T05:56:58 < haw> dongs, actually, i think it's a good idea to enable interrupt. code can be written inside interrupts. More readable. 2016-05-18T05:57:29 < dongs> wat 2016-05-18T05:57:40 < dongs> you can already receive uart data in its own dedicated receive interrupt 2016-05-18T05:57:43 < dongs> or just use DMA 2016-05-18T05:57:54 < dongs> i see absolutely no reason to enable wake/sleep shit "just bceause code is autogenerated" 2016-05-18T06:00:15 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Create-Operating-system/ 2016-05-18T06:00:18 < dongs> lol 2016-05-18T06:02:15 < ReadError> all the names are green, dongs, ohsix and haw 2016-05-18T06:02:27 < ReadError> i thought dongs and ohsix where talking to themselves or eachother 2016-05-18T06:14:58 < upgrdman> are there any docs or forum posts on the design of RC servos. like going over the logic of the firmware 2016-05-18T06:15:12 < upgrdman> figured rc groups might have that 2016-05-18T06:15:17 < upgrdman> but i dont see any 2016-05-18T06:15:46 < upgrdman> well ya you look at the error in position, and react accordingly. maybe even with a PI/PID loop 2016-05-18T06:15:47 < upgrdman> but 2016-05-18T06:16:09 < upgrdman> it looks like this servo i have also looks at the motor pins (drains of the FETs) and i dont know why 2016-05-18T06:16:43 < upgrdman> wouldnt that be determined by the FET gates? 2016-05-18T06:16:49 < upgrdman> oh 2016-05-18T06:17:03 < upgrdman> it is part of the control loop :) that's why im asking 2016-05-18T06:17:39 < upgrdman> e.g. even with no pot (replace with a voltage divider) if you give a signal that stops the motor, and turn the output shaft, it will actively fight you despite no pot feedback 2016-05-18T06:18:14 < upgrdman> R2COM, for a russian? no 2016-05-18T06:18:33 < upgrdman> ohsix, it does that, but no. it actively fights you. drives the gates. 2016-05-18T06:18:39 < upgrdman> R2COM, maybe redneck 2016-05-18T06:20:26 < upgrdman> i just wonder why 2016-05-18T06:20:32 < upgrdman> if the feedback pot is gone 2016-05-18T06:20:52 < upgrdman> i guess they used the motor voltage to detect movement on top of the pot feedback 2016-05-18T06:21:26 < ReadError> well, according to the food nazis 2016-05-18T06:21:29 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-18T06:31:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T06:32:08 < dongs> http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2012/06/18/rfdrewtgdshw6gdhewderdfrdewdewdwedwd_mobile.mp4?ri=512000&rs=850 lmao, skip to like last 20 seconds 2016-05-18T06:33:14 < dongs> what the fuck is #qucs, shouldnt that be #cucks 2016-05-18T06:38:22 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T06:40:31 < dongs> sup 2016-05-18T06:40:32 < dongs> innovating 2016-05-18T06:40:34 < englishman> dongs, lol, what's the source, thats like straight out of some cartoon 2016-05-18T06:40:52 < dongs> > worldstarhiphop source 2016-05-18T06:41:06 < dongs> i didn't hear any "worldstar" screamin tho 2016-05-18T06:41:08 < englishman> but there's no black people 2016-05-18T06:48:49 < dongs> i wonder how high that was 2016-05-18T06:49:02 < dongs> and by how much the audio was delayed due to distance 2016-05-18T06:49:27 < dongs> i bet ohsix would spend all day calculating that 2016-05-18T06:49:31 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbuzrhrtvlshktzy] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T06:49:31 < dongs> instead of doing something useful 2016-05-18T06:59:32 < dongs> i remember when ogrish sold out and became livedick 2016-05-18T06:59:34 < dongs> its been shit ever since 2016-05-18T07:27:20 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T07:30:42 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T07:30:47 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-18T07:42:57 < upgrdman> lol. this pc case looks like a mini fridge 2016-05-18T07:43:56 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/a/IvCRc 2016-05-18T07:49:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T08:04:01 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has 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Cortex-R4 core. TI hacked in BE-32 support" 2016-05-18T10:22:40 < haw> why are little-endian more popular than big-endian? 2016-05-18T10:22:47 < jpa-> because x86 2016-05-18T10:24:23 < zyp> haw, because it makes a little bit more sense 2016-05-18T10:24:24 < haw> tcp/ip is big-endian. why don't MCUs become big-endian given how networking has become pervasive? 2016-05-18T10:25:10 < dongs> beacuse internet of dicks isnt as important as every asshole in the indsutry tries to make you think 2016-05-18T10:25:25 < dongs> my led blinking dongle couldnt give two fucks that internet is BE 2016-05-18T10:26:54 < zyp> uint32_t x = 5; uint8_t y = *(uint8_t*)&x; 2016-05-18T10:27:11 < zyp> on LE, y = 5, on BE, y = 0 2016-05-18T10:28:10 < jpa-> haw: because it is not really a big problem to convert back and forth 2016-05-18T10:28:11 < zyp> small numbers are aligned identically in LE 2016-05-18T10:28:17 < haw> is the endian issue irrelevant to 8-bit MCU? 2016-05-18T10:28:17 < jpa-> arm even has an instruction to do that quickly 2016-05-18T10:28:24 < zyp> yes 2016-05-18T10:28:26 < zyp> well 2016-05-18T10:28:40 < jpa-> for truly 8-bit yeah, but for e.g. AVR i think it has endianess in architecture 2016-05-18T10:28:41 < zyp> an 8-bit MCU got no hardware endianness 2016-05-18T10:28:52 < jpa-> because it has some 16-bit operations 2016-05-18T10:28:59 < dongs> • Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3163207). 2016-05-18T10:29:03 < dongs> gee thanks 2016-05-18T10:29:12 < haw> jpa-, i thought AVR is 8-bit MCU? i'm confused 2016-05-18T10:29:23 < dongs> AVR was a shit mcu 2016-05-18T10:29:46 < dongs> when will mchp bury it i wonder 2016-05-18T10:29:46 < zyp> I think AVRs flash bus is 16-bit, and pointers are also 16 bits 2016-05-18T10:30:08 < haw> zyp, why do they call themselves 8-bit MCU? 2016-05-18T10:30:14 < jpa-> because they are not fully 16-bit 2016-05-18T10:30:18 < zyp> because the working registers are 8-bit 2016-05-18T10:30:21 < zyp> the ALU is 8-bit 2016-05-18T10:30:22 < dongs> XMEGA is "8/16bit" 2016-05-18T10:30:29 < dongs> is xmega == atmegA? 2016-05-18T10:30:30 < dongs> or newer core 2016-05-18T10:30:36 < zyp> xmega is some newer shit 2016-05-18T10:30:56 < zyp> but I've never looked at what makes it different 2016-05-18T10:31:05 < jpa-> similarly cortex-m3 has SMLAL which takes 64-bit operand, but that does not make it a 64-bit cpu 2016-05-18T10:32:02 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T10:32:30 < zyp> cortex-m4f has a bunch of 64-bit registers in the FPU 2016-05-18T10:32:39 < dongs> haw should ask that question @ freelancer 2016-05-18T10:33:31 < haw> what makes an MCU X-bit is that the data bus is X-bit long, right? 2016-05-18T10:33:40 < zyp> no 2016-05-18T10:34:14 < haw> how do we determine whether an MCU is x-bit long? 2016-05-18T10:34:32 < jpa-> we throw a dice 2016-05-18T10:34:37 < zyp> usually the bit width of the GP registers and ALU 2016-05-18T10:35:07 < zyp> since that's what actually processes data 2016-05-18T10:35:35 < dongs> doesnt avrturd have 16bit registers 2016-05-18T10:35:44 < zyp> the bus into the cpu is commonly wider so it can load data faster 2016-05-18T10:35:59 < zyp> dongs, not really 2016-05-18T10:36:04 < zyp> there's some pairs 2016-05-18T10:36:04 < jpa-> dongs: it goes the x86 way, allowing combining two registers for some instructions 2016-05-18T10:36:29 < zyp> multiply two 8-bit operands, get out a 16-bit result across two registers 2016-05-18T10:37:31 < jpa-> people should just use pic, then it is easy to say "it is 8-bit because W is 8-bit" 2016-05-18T10:38:47 < zyp> yeah, the old ones even only got 8-bit pointers 2016-05-18T10:38:55 < zyp> and needs banked memory due to that :p 2016-05-18T10:43:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-18T10:52:08 < dongs> i think you mean pump pump 2016-05-18T10:53:10 < haw> Where can one get the documentation of the HAL libraries? for example, simple functions like HAL_Delay(). 2016-05-18T10:53:56 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T10:54:18 < dongs> haw, look at the god damn source 2016-05-18T10:54:21 < dongs> of hal_delay 2016-05-18T10:54:29 < dongs> if you need more docs than that then you should just run arduino.exe 2016-05-18T10:55:19 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-92-241.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T10:57:19 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-80-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-18T10:57:58 < dongs> is that from keil books?? 2016-05-18T10:58:31 < dongs> the .chm or whatever right? 2016-05-18T10:58:37 < dongs> kk 2016-05-18T11:01:35 < haw> crt, do u mind telling me how you got that? where do I click books? sorry if i sound dumb 2016-05-18T11:06:05 < haw> crt, may i ask which title is that book? I tried to search all 3 books but cannot find. 2016-05-18T11:10:02 < haw> I tried this http://www.st.com/resource/ja/user_manual/dm00105879.pdf but the link is not working 2016-05-18T11:13:41 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wddpznpzqyikiwcv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-18T11:20:02 < Ecco> How would one pick a frequency for the HSE of an STM32? 2016-05-18T11:20:54 < jpa-> 8MHz, unless you need to get something special like specific frequency for I2S 2016-05-18T11:21:32 < jpa-> 8MHz being a common, cheap value for crystals, and AFAIK on all STM32 you can get maximum speed using PLL from 8MHz crystal 2016-05-18T11:21:44 < Ecco> Well, I need a low profile for my quartz 2016-05-18T11:21:51 < Ecco> apparently the most common is 3.2 x 2.5mm 2016-05-18T11:21:54 < zyp> go with a higher freq then 2016-05-18T11:21:58 < zyp> I think dongs like 12 2016-05-18T11:22:06 < Ecco> and neither Farnell nor Mouser have any 8 MHz in that form factor 2016-05-18T11:22:06 < zyp> because of the smaller crystals 2016-05-18T11:22:37 < Ecco> I understood that 8 MHz kinda was the "standard" one 2016-05-18T11:22:43 < jpa-> Ecco: low profile or also tiny size? 2016-05-18T11:22:49 < Ecco> only low profile 2016-05-18T11:22:57 < Ecco> but all the HC49s are too high 2016-05-18T11:23:00 < zyp> I went with 25 for F4 once, because I already needed 25 for ethernet, and that's one less part type in the BOM 2016-05-18T11:23:04 < jpa-> then you can find those 6x3mm or so crystals at 8MHz, they are about 1.5mm high 2016-05-18T11:23:32 < Ecco> Oh, let me see 2016-05-18T11:23:40 < Ecco> Also, I don't want to use a weird size 2016-05-18T11:23:48 < Ecco> I would have loved to use HC49 but they're all too thick 2016-05-18T11:24:39 < zyp> Ecco, which stm32 is this for? 2016-05-18T11:24:44 < Ecco> F401 2016-05-18T11:24:59 < zyp> hmm, I'm not familiar with the clock tree of that 2016-05-18T11:25:18 < Ecco> First, I'll want to use USB DFU 2016-05-18T11:25:25 < Ecco> so if my understanding's correct 2016-05-18T11:25:30 < Ecco> there's only 3 frequencies I can use 2016-05-18T11:25:36 < Ecco> 25 MHz, 14.something and 8 2016-05-18T11:25:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:25:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-18T11:25:55 < zyp> on F407, it starts by dividing down the HSE freq to 1 or 2 MHz before feeding it to the PLL, so any crystal in the HSE range that's divisible by 1 MHz would work 2016-05-18T11:26:11 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-18T11:26:13 < zyp> oh, internal bootloader 2016-05-18T11:26:19 < Ecco> Is that a bad idea? 2016-05-18T11:26:31 < zyp> internal bootloader probably got some extra requirements for autodetecting the crystal 2016-05-18T11:26:33 < Ecco> (ok, I used another package, 5.0 x 3.2, and those exist in 8 Mhz) 2016-05-18T11:26:39 < zyp> AN2606 probably states those 2016-05-18T11:26:45 < qyx> I usually use 25, they are available 2016-05-18T11:26:48 < Ecco> Well, if I read the doc correctly, it asks for 3 frequencies 2016-05-18T11:26:54 < Ecco> 8, 25 or 14.something 2016-05-18T11:28:02 < Ecco> In general, is it better to pick a faster or a slower quartz? 2016-05-18T11:28:08 < zyp> doesn't matter 2016-05-18T11:28:11 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-18T11:28:19 < Ecco> So why are there so many choices? :) 2016-05-18T11:28:55 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-18T11:28:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:29:18 < zyp> AN2606 states "The external clock must provide a frequency multiple of 1 MHz and ranging from 4 MHz to 26 MHz." 2016-05-18T11:30:27 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:30:33 < Ecco> Hmm indeed 2016-05-18T11:30:35 < zyp> which means that any crystal that's valid in the first place can be autodetected by the bootloader as well 2016-05-18T11:31:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:31:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-18T11:31:09 < Ecco> Weird because AN3156 says "For Connectivity line USB DFU bootloader, the device first tries the 25 MHz configuration, then, if it fails, the 14.7456 MHz configuration, and finally, if it fails, the 8 MHz configuration." 2016-05-18T11:31:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-18T11:31:34 < zyp> 14.7456 sounds weird 2016-05-18T11:31:45 < zyp> got the url to AN3156? 2016-05-18T11:31:55 < zyp> nm, google had it 2016-05-18T11:32:06 < Ecco> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/6a/17/92/02/58/98/45/0c/CD00264379.pdf/files/CD00264379.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00264379.pdf 2016-05-18T11:32:22 < Ecco> Anyway, imma stick to 8 MHz 2016-05-18T11:32:34 < Ecco> I didn't realise it wasn't available in the 3.2mm package because it was too small 2016-05-18T11:32:36 < zyp> ah, connectivity line 2016-05-18T11:32:37 < Ecco> so thanks for pointing this 2016-05-18T11:32:50 < zyp> that's probably only F105/F107 2016-05-18T11:33:21 < zyp> I bet they have a retarded clock tree that's less flexible than F4's 2016-05-18T11:33:22 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:35:10 < Ecco> gotcha 2016-05-18T11:35:23 < Ecco> I'm trying to compute the capacitors for an oscillator 2016-05-18T11:35:43 < Ecco> my understanding is that the quartz datasheet tells you what equivalent capacity it expects 2016-05-18T11:35:45 < zyp> the load caps on a crystal? 2016-05-18T11:35:48 < Ecco> yes 2016-05-18T11:36:10 < Ecco> So for example, in the STM32401 discovery board 2016-05-18T11:36:15 < zyp> yeah, grab the C_L value from the crystal datasheet, divide it by two, then round down to the next common value 2016-05-18T11:36:17 < Ecco> they use a 8MHz, 20 pF crystal 2016-05-18T11:36:27 < Ecco> ok, that's exactly what they did 2016-05-18T11:36:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:36:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-18T11:36:30 < Ecco> they're using a 10 pF 2016-05-18T11:36:39 < Ecco> but I don't understand why 2016-05-18T11:36:42 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-18T11:37:00 < Ecco> I would have thought that since you put these two capacitors in series 2016-05-18T11:37:01 < haw> After compiling, I get "Program Size: Code=5632 RO-data=240 RW-data=16 ZI-data=2248 " May I ask what is RO-data, RW-data, ZI-data? 2016-05-18T11:37:06 < Ecco> you shouldn't add theyr capacitances 2016-05-18T11:37:15 < zyp> they're not in series 2016-05-18T11:37:26 < Ecco> Well, they're both connected to the ground 2016-05-18T11:37:27 < zyp> haw, .rodata, .data and .bss, respectively 2016-05-18T11:37:47 < Ecco> haw: those are sections of an executable file 2016-05-18T11:37:58 < Ecco> you may try to google 'elf sections' 2016-05-18T11:38:15 < haw> if I declare rx_buffer[500], where does that go into? 2016-05-18T11:38:17 < zyp> haw, const globals, nonzero-initialized variable globals and zero-initialized globals, respectively 2016-05-18T11:38:22 < dongs> zidata 2016-05-18T11:38:24 < dongs> obviosuly 2016-05-18T11:38:29 < zyp> yeah 2016-05-18T11:38:36 < Ecco> haw, well, that depends where 2016-05-18T11:38:39 < Ecco> not enough context 2016-05-18T11:38:44 < dongs> enough context 2016-05-18T11:38:48 < zyp> haw, RO = readonly, RW = read-write, ZI = zero-initialized 2016-05-18T11:38:49 < Ecco> really? 2016-05-18T11:38:50 < dongs> based on program size: line he pasted 2016-05-18T11:38:52 < dongs> yes 2016-05-18T11:38:55 < dongs> and that its 500 bytes 2016-05-18T11:39:05 < dongs> and he didnt say it was const 2016-05-18T11:39:15 < dongs> (and efvne if he did, the size disagrees 2016-05-18T11:39:26 < Ecco> int foo() { char rx_buffer[500]; } 2016-05-18T11:39:56 < haw> RO-data, RW-data, ZI-data are all RAM, right? as long as the sum of the 3 does not exceed RAM available on MCU, should be fine, correct? 2016-05-18T11:39:59 < dongs> why would you have a stack-local rxbuffer 2016-05-18T11:40:06 < dongs> no, rodata is in flash 2016-05-18T11:40:16 < dongs> that's the "RO" part 2016-05-18T11:40:21 < Ecco> dongs: I don't know, I just have no idea what his code would do :) 2016-05-18T11:40:31 < zyp> haw, RO is stuff that's only read, never written, so it can be stored in flash, RW can be written and must be located in ram, but the initialization values must also be stored in flash, ZI is zero-initialized and only consumes ram, not flash 2016-05-18T11:40:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:40:41 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-18T11:40:53 < zyp> so flash = code + RO + RW, and ram = RW + ZI 2016-05-18T11:40:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-18T11:41:31 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:41:47 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:41:50 < zyp> Ecco, all those sections are only relevant for globals, stack variables doesn't end up in either 2016-05-18T11:41:57 < Ecco> I know 2016-05-18T11:41:58 < zyp> since they go on the stack 2016-05-18T11:42:15 < dongs> there's very little reason to have a stack rx-buffer of 500 bytes, too 2016-05-18T11:42:20 < Ecco> I just meant that with only "rx_buffer[500]" there was no way to tell anything for sure 2016-05-18T11:42:24 < dongs> so he probly made it global for using ffrom interrupt 2016-05-18T11:42:36 < haw> i'm confused on RW. How do I know how much of RW is in flash, how much is in RAM? 2016-05-18T11:42:40 < Ecco> dongs: I agree that statistically you were most likely right 2016-05-18T11:42:44 < dongs> haw, all of it is 2016-05-18T11:42:45 < zyp> haw, all of it is both places 2016-05-18T11:42:46 < dongs> .its initialized from it 2016-05-18T11:42:56 < Ecco> and you have to copy it 2016-05-18T11:42:57 < haw> dongs, it's a receive buffer to receive characters from UART 2016-05-18T11:43:03 < dongs> i could guess that 2016-05-18T11:43:06 < zyp> flash contains an initial copy, that's copied to ram during startup 2016-05-18T11:43:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:43:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-18T11:43:58 < Ecco> regarding the load caps on a crystal 2016-05-18T11:44:04 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-18T11:44:20 < dongs> ecco, zypsnips cover it 2016-05-18T11:44:25 < Ecco> I did my maths based on the fact that the caps are in series (both connected to GND) 2016-05-18T11:44:36 < dongs> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/crystal-load-wisdom.txt 2016-05-18T11:44:41 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-18T11:44:48 < Ecco> and I eventually got C = 2*(Crystal_load - Stray_capacitor) 2016-05-18T11:44:53 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:45:00 < Ecco> and apparently someone else had the same result : https://www.lpcware.com/content/faq/how-calculate-value-crystal-load-capacitors 2016-05-18T11:45:10 -!- _Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:45:11 -!- ou5x [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:45:14 < Ecco> but it really doesn't match what ST did for the STM32F401 disco 2016-05-18T11:45:30 < zyp> Ecco, the formula is C_L = (C1 * C2) / (C1 + C2) 2016-05-18T11:45:37 < Ecco> ha, look 2016-05-18T11:45:46 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:45:50 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mploaridaagvrkmi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:45:52 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:45:52 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:45:59 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@is.aww.moe] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:45:59 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:03 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:03 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:10 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:12 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:16 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:17 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:46:28 -!- fbs_ [~buttercup@188.226.153.128] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:46:37 < Ecco> you agreed too, zyp! (in the link posted by dongs) 2016-05-18T11:46:37 < Ecco> it's C1 = 2*(Cl-Cstray) 2016-05-18T11:46:37 < Ecco> so how comes they picked 10pF load caps for a 20pF Crystal? 2016-05-18T11:46:37 < Ecco> Shouldn't it be more like 40 pF load caps? 2016-05-18T11:46:38 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:47:09 < Ecco> Shit my bad 2016-05-18T11:47:16 < zyp> ah, my bad 2016-05-18T11:47:16 < Ecco> they actually used 20pF for a 10pF cap 2016-05-18T11:47:18 < Ecco> sorry 2016-05-18T11:47:23 < Ecco> so it all adds up ok 2016-05-18T11:47:27 < zyp> I got the numbers the wrong way around 2016-05-18T11:47:36 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-05-18T11:47:41 -!- jadew [~razvan@86.124.193.161] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:47:42 < zyp> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/crystal-load-wisdom.txt <- here's what I usually say about it 2016-05-18T11:47:46 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:47:47 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-05-18T11:48:19 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imqamvjzfxmzicfx] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-18T11:49:00 < zyp> and let me tell you, getting it wrong fucks up the frequency 2016-05-18T11:49:14 -!- fbs_ [~buttercup@188.226.153.128] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-18T11:49:33 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:49:50 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:49:52 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:50:14 < zyp> I once put 18pF load caps on a crystal with C_L = 18pF 2016-05-18T11:50:50 < zyp> crystal ran like 0.02% too fast or something 2016-05-18T11:51:02 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-18T11:51:11 < Ecco> Ok, so in the STM32F401 2016-05-18T11:51:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:51:17 < Ecco> discovery board 2016-05-18T11:51:20 < zyp> which was kinda bad, because it was driving a 2.4G RF chip running with a channel width of 1MHz 2016-05-18T11:51:30 < Ecco> they use a 20 pF quartz, and 20 pF load capacitors 2016-05-18T11:51:33 < zyp> entire signal was 0.4MHz off channel 2016-05-18T11:51:34 < Ecco> that's just wrong, right? 2016-05-18T11:51:46 < zyp> yeah 2016-05-18T11:51:51 < Ecco> weird 2016-05-18T11:52:12 < zyp> it'll run, just slightly off 2016-05-18T11:52:12 < Ecco> Would they really make such a mistake? 2016-05-18T11:52:15 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-18T11:52:31 < zyp> and hundreds of a percent is usually not very critical 2016-05-18T11:52:42 < Ecco> But what's the point? Plus I'm looking at their BOM, and they're using those caps only for the oscillator 2016-05-18T11:52:47 < Ecco> so why bother picking the wrong value? 2016-05-18T11:53:01 < zyp> somebody fucked up when doing the calculation, I guess 2016-05-18T11:53:04 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-18T11:53:12 < Ecco> well they have the same "error" on all their disco boards 2016-05-18T11:53:19 < dongs> what was their crystal on there ? 2016-05-18T11:53:20 < dongs> 8mhz? 2016-05-18T11:53:22 < Ecco> yes 2016-05-18T11:53:24 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:53:26 < dongs> someone probably copypasted that schema from when it was 25mhz 2016-05-18T11:53:27 < Ecco> 8Mhz, 20pF 2016-05-18T11:53:31 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-18T11:53:34 < Ecco> ok! 2016-05-18T11:53:47 < PeterM> karlp http://i.imgur.com/rkBJxOX.png add this shit to the wiki 2016-05-18T11:53:53 < PeterM> im too lazy 2016-05-18T11:54:18 < PeterM> its for SO-8 with thermal pad 2016-05-18T11:54:28 < Ecco> Interesting! 2016-05-18T11:54:32 < dongs> nice pad 2016-05-18T11:54:34 < Ecco> It does make a huge difference 2016-05-18T11:54:49 < dongs> more layers makes even more diference 2016-05-18T11:54:56 < dongs> i had a dumb microchip QFN that was burning fingers @ 2L 2016-05-18T11:54:59 < dongs> stone cold at 4L 2016-05-18T11:55:16 < zyp> that SMSC shit? 2016-05-18T11:55:18 < Ecco> so wait, it can dissipate heat in the inner layrs? 2016-05-18T11:55:20 < dongs> zyp, yeah 2016-05-18T11:55:25 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otscokvebmejbscp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:55:39 < zyp> Ecco, obviously not, it just aids transporting the heat away 2016-05-18T11:55:46 < dongs> customer ended up paying for 4L anyway 2016-05-18T11:55:54 < dongs> production cost difference was negligible 2016-05-18T11:56:15 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfehlfwbkkzzeefw] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T11:56:24 < zyp> yeah, for production shit, it doesn't really make sense not doing 4L when it's beneficial 2016-05-18T11:57:05 < haw> what are some examples of code that is in RW or .data? 2016-05-18T11:57:16 < dongs> static int faggot = 47; 2016-05-18T11:57:20 < Ecco> static int foo=1; 2016-05-18T11:57:28 < Ecco> yeah, dongs version 2016-05-18T11:57:32 < zyp> uint8_t foo[] = {1, 2, 3}; 2016-05-18T11:57:41 < dongs> const int dongs[2] = { 1, 2 }; 2016-05-18T11:57:46 < Ecco> haw: adding "const" is what will make the difference 2016-05-18T11:57:55 < zyp> anything that's initialized to anything other than 0 2016-05-18T11:58:03 < zyp> Ecco, he said RW, not RO 2016-05-18T11:58:32 < Ecco> yeah, I know, I was pointing that "const" will make a difference 2016-05-18T11:58:52 < haw> thanks. clearer now. 2016-05-18T11:58:52 < Ecco> I probably misunderstood his question though :-/ 2016-05-18T11:59:13 < zyp> static isn't relevant though, static just affects symbol visibility 2016-05-18T11:59:50 < zyp> adding static may result in it not being emitted at all, if the compiler can inline it and optimize it out 2016-05-18T11:59:53 < jpa-> "static" means that the variable will be stored in SRAM with static electricity 2016-05-18T12:00:00 < zyp> :) 2016-05-18T12:00:05 < jpa-> "extern" means that the variable will be stored in the cloud external to the chip 2016-05-18T12:00:07 < dongs> does 'volatile" mean it may explode? 2016-05-18T12:00:12 < zyp> yes 2016-05-18T12:00:16 < dongs> awesome 2016-05-18T12:00:21 < dongs> i've seen craters 2016-05-18T12:00:22 < dongs> in my STM32s 2016-05-18T12:00:25 < dongs> must be due to that 2016-05-18T12:00:46 < dongs> 35.7999 11.7999 2016-05-18T12:00:54 < dongs> my OCD kickin in each time i see this in picknplace xy data 2016-05-18T12:00:56 < jpa-> "signed" variables are for the deaf programmers 2016-05-18T12:01:43 < jpa-> dongs: i wonder what software fails to round properly? 2016-05-18T12:02:44 < haw> in the keil project, where is the linker file? I only see .c and .h 2016-05-18T12:05:04 < zyp> dongs, haha 2016-05-18T12:08:32 < Ecco> Is it possible to have "square" track ends in altium (as opposed to rounded) 2016-05-18T12:08:37 < haw> err ... something that defines how to link object files into an executable? 2016-05-18T12:08:59 < haw> defines where to put certain code at what address. something like that 2016-05-18T12:09:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:2493:525d:39b7:7347] has quit [Quit: IceChat - Its what Cool People use] 2016-05-18T12:09:46 < Ecco> haw: They're trolling you :) 2016-05-18T12:09:52 < Ecco> It worked quite well I have to say :) 2016-05-18T12:10:04 < Ecco> I don't know where Keil's linker file is, I've never used it 2016-05-18T12:11:04 < haw> Ecco, didn't know that. folks here have been very helpful so far, although I need to screen out the swearing 2016-05-18T12:13:09 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-18T12:13:18 < haw> Saw something there at target options. How would one know what start memory address to use for, say, IROM1 and IRAM1? 2016-05-18T12:14:05 < haw> How to know what size to use for the memory allocation? 2016-05-18T12:14:06 < haw> I see 2016-05-18T12:14:41 < haw> Ok. it's in the reference manual 2016-05-18T12:17:16 -!- dongs [~dongs@bcas.tv] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-18T12:20:09 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T12:23:10 -!- dongs [~dongs@bcas.tv] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T12:23:10 < dongs> what the fuck 2016-05-18T12:23:20 < dongs> spent 10 minutes looking for 1uF reel 2016-05-18T12:23:35 < dongs> because dumb jap shitware software couldnt match its ID 2016-05-18T12:23:43 < dongs> it was loaded in the fucking machine after all 2016-05-18T12:24:22 < dongs> jpa-: altium of course 2016-05-18T12:24:56 < dongs> actualyl lol, its at 9.7 / 19.8 in gui 2016-05-18T12:25:06 < dongs> but picknplace data was output .69999 2016-05-18T12:26:33 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T12:31:58 < karlp> gagk, you guys were busy chattzing over night, anything of interest beyond peterm's so8 thermals? 2016-05-18T12:32:11 < karlp> PeterM: where did you rip that thermal so-8 figure from anyway? 2016-05-18T12:39:14 < dongs> I'd guess some IRF shit 2016-05-18T12:39:27 < dongs> i might have seen it before somewehre 2016-05-18T12:39:43 < dongs> k time to burn garbage 2016-05-18T12:45:44 < PeterM> karlp,dongs one of the many richtek datashets 2016-05-18T12:46:40 < PeterM> its up there with thisgraphy for mosfet drivers http://i.imgur.com/ZRfgKTO.png 2016-05-18T12:48:23 < dongs> oh thats where i seen it then 2016-05-18T12:48:29 < karlp> what's Cu? 2016-05-18T12:48:46 < PeterM> CL= cpacitive load 2016-05-18T12:48:58 < dongs> karlp: .. copper? 2016-05-18T12:49:06 < PeterM> so cu=capacitive laod 2016-05-18T12:49:52 < karlp> that's Cl, yeah, what's Cu though? other than being = Cl? 2016-05-18T12:49:58 < PeterM> http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT9629A/DS9629A-03.pdf 2016-05-18T12:50:05 < PeterM> its stolen from this DS 2016-05-18T12:50:22 < PeterM> they use a 2n7000 + Cu to set the cap[acitive laod onthe driver jsut for testing 2016-05-18T12:50:53 < PeterM> vcc= mosfet drive 2016-05-18T12:51:48 < karlp> oh, it's Cupper = Clower... 2016-05-18T12:52:55 < qyx> clover? 2016-05-18T12:52:57 < qyx> wat 2016-05-18T12:53:07 < jpa-> four-leaved clower brings luck to your cupper pcb manufacturing 2016-05-18T13:11:33 < kha> karlp: from the datasheet above 2016-05-18T13:11:42 < kha> "Figure 3 shows the power dissipation test circuit. CL and 2016-05-18T13:11:44 < kha> CU are the UGATEx and LGATEx load capacitors, 2016-05-18T13:11:46 < kha> respectively." 2016-05-18T13:12:22 < karlp> kha: 09:51 < karlp> oh, it's Cupper = Clower... 2016-05-18T13:12:45 < PeterM> ^ karl isnt a retard 2016-05-18T13:13:25 < PeterM> tbh the first time i read karlp i thought you were some karl pilkington fanboy 2016-05-18T13:14:40 * karlp glows. peter said I'm not a retard :) 2016-05-18T13:14:40 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/GKavJgD.jpg 2016-05-18T13:15:11 < karlp> dongs: a friend of ours bought our daughter a stuffed unicode poop toy the other day 2016-05-18T13:15:12 < jpa-> karlp: you might want to post that line on "false and misleading information" ;) 2016-05-18T13:15:20 < karlp> jpa-: heh :) 2016-05-18T13:15:21 < dongs> i wonder when the shit is microsoft gonna fix thier ufckign shitgapore windowsupdatre server 2016-05-18T13:15:33 < dongs> i am downloading updates at like 2k/sec for hte last few months 2016-05-18T13:15:43 < dongs> karlp: good job 2016-05-18T13:15:55 < PeterM> dongs im surprised there isnt any molded rubber eggplant toys 2016-05-18T13:16:24 < dongs> HEH 2016-05-18T13:17:21 < dongs> http://www.independent.co.uk/a7033261.html 2016-05-18T13:17:27 < dongs> google news for eggplant 2016-05-18T13:19:17 < PeterM> the pretty much what eggplant means to kids these days 2016-05-18T13:19:21 < PeterM> also ouch 2016-05-18T13:20:20 * karlp is obviously not a kid. what does eggplant mean now? 2016-05-18T13:20:39 < jpa-> faceplanting with dongs 2016-05-18T13:21:23 < PeterM> oh, its a vegetable, its pretty decent on the barbie 2016-05-18T13:24:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-18T13:27:00 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-18T13:27:25 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T13:40:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.28] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T13:50:12 -!- haw [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T13:51:32 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-18T13:53:05 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T13:59:22 < qyx> huh, I found a bunch og china lipo pouch cells, around 200mAh 2016-05-18T14:00:07 < qyx> they are all blown up like a mini balloons 2016-05-18T14:00:31 < qyx> they are like 1 year old, never used 2016-05-18T14:01:56 < qyx> something similar http://batteryuniversity.com/_img/content/pouch2.jpg 2016-05-18T14:02:13 < dongs> hehe 2016-05-18T14:02:20 < dongs> those are batts from like 808 cams 2016-05-18T14:05:30 < qyx> http://i.imgur.com/fv6fW6k.jpg 2016-05-18T14:05:40 < qyx> I wonder if it is a manufacturing defect 2016-05-18T14:05:51 < PeterM> nah, shit happens 2016-05-18T14:06:29 < PeterM> if stored in a reasonably warm environment they slowly gas and puff 2016-05-18T14:06:37 < dongs> now grab a nail 2016-05-18T14:06:39 < PeterM> especially if stored at full charge 2016-05-18T14:06:54 < dongs> how bad to these blow up iof you just thorw them in fire 2016-05-18T14:07:02 < dongs> i've got a brick trash-burning furnace thingy 2016-05-18T14:07:10 < dongs> would it blow it to bits if I threw a 2Ah lipo in there? 2016-05-18T14:07:20 < qyx> PeterM: around 20°C stable, is that reasonably warm? 2016-05-18T14:07:27 < qyx> they were never charged or discharged 2016-05-18T14:07:39 < qyx> but, I found some that I used in the past, they are ok 2016-05-18T14:13:24 < PeterM> oh, just because they gas,puff doenst mean they're ruined 2016-05-18T14:13:34 < PeterM> their ESR goes up a bit but otherwise generalyl fine 2016-05-18T14:13:43 < PeterM> nah, 20c should be fine 2016-05-18T14:24:04 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T14:40:52 < dongs> fucking vs2015 2016-05-18T14:40:53 < dongs> < PeterM> nah, 20c should be fine 2016-05-18T14:40:55 < dongs> err 2016-05-18T14:41:11 < dongs> some dumb .lib wouldnt link, missing _sprintf() of all things 2016-05-18T14:41:14 < dongs> had to add legacy_stdio_definitions.lib to linker shit 2016-05-18T14:41:21 < dongs> thanks, stackoverflow 2016-05-18T14:45:05 < PeterM> [21:40] < PeterM> nah, 20c should be fine 2016-05-18T14:45:05 < PeterM> [21:40] err 2016-05-18T14:45:12 < PeterM> 20 degrees c m8 2016-05-18T14:45:27 < dongs> PeterM: no t hat was fale 2016-05-18T14:45:27 < PeterM> which one? your dickinabox? 2016-05-18T14:45:31 < dongs> i was pasting the .lib name 2016-05-18T14:45:43 < PeterM> dongs oh mad fale 2016-05-18T14:45:43 < dongs> i clicked like on it 2016-05-18T14:46:08 < PeterM> ctr looks like some resistors in a box 2016-05-18T14:46:59 < PeterM> i bet the first time you fired up that "load" box it fuckign stunk 2016-05-18T14:48:00 < PeterM> dongie did you work out what you were gonna do for the current shunt/sense thingo? or you savin that bloggin/innovatin for the weekend 2016-05-18T14:48:25 < dongs> not yet, screwed that shit back together , got other work trash to do 2016-05-18T14:48:38 < dongs> also checked hw store, didnt have ring terminals that big 2016-05-18T14:49:41 < PeterM> bugger 2016-05-18T14:50:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T14:52:51 < dongs> gotta deal with ertarded silabs code for the time being 2016-05-18T14:52:55 < dongs> ~1meg of .c/.h stuff 2016-05-18T14:53:05 < dongs> abstraction worse than ST HAL 2016-05-18T14:53:11 < dongs> liek 5 layers deep 2016-05-18T14:53:14 < dongs> tehy actually call it L0, L1, L2 2016-05-18T14:53:21 < dongs> gets dumber as it goes up 2016-05-18T14:55:31 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1463544473679.png 2016-05-18T14:55:45 < dongs> not cotrtex 2016-05-18T14:55:53 < Laurenceb_> 8051? 2016-05-18T14:56:11 < PeterM> +---------------------+ 2016-05-18T14:56:11 < PeterM> | Not funny LaurenceB | 2016-05-18T14:56:11 < PeterM> +---------------------+ 2016-05-18T14:57:24 < Laurenceb_> not funny PeterM 2016-05-18T14:57:42 < PeterM> wasnt intendded to be 2016-05-18T14:57:51 < jpa-> not furry 2016-05-18T14:57:56 < dongs> extremely furry 2016-05-18T14:59:36 < dongs> i know that guy 2016-05-18T15:05:05 < Laurenceb_> found your waifu dongs https://twitter.com/evalion88 2016-05-18T15:12:58 < Ecco> What's the point of the 4.7 nF capacitor? 2016-05-18T15:13:39 < Ecco> (on vdd) 2016-05-18T15:16:21 < kha> Ecco: supress HF noise 2016-05-18T15:16:42 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T15:17:27 < timemob> what do you think is cheaper, common 16ch ADC or a 10-12 channel one 2016-05-18T15:18:05 < timemob> (need >8 channels but <12 2016-05-18T15:18:32 < timemob> or just use analog mux and shut up 2016-05-18T15:19:21 < jpa-> just throw a stm32f032 there :P 2016-05-18T15:19:38 < jpa-> *30 2016-05-18T15:19:51 < timemob> heh 2016-05-18T15:24:01 < Laurenceb_> weird nick 2016-05-18T15:24:15 < TklHR0VS> base64 2016-05-18T15:25:28 < TklHR0VS> Not funny CRT 2016-05-18T15:30:27 < Ecco> kha: Can I place it anywhere? Should it be close to a given VDD pin? 2016-05-18T15:30:52 -!- timemob is now known as dGltZW1vYg 2016-05-18T15:30:57 < dGltZW1vYg> sup 2016-05-18T15:31:16 < dGltZW1vYg> ecco: place what 2016-05-18T15:32:49 < Ecco> The STM32F401 datasheet says that a 4.7uF cap should be placed between VDD and VSS 2016-05-18T15:33:00 < Ecco> I'm wondering where I should place this component 2016-05-18T15:33:22 < Ecco> (it also says that each VDD/VSS pin pair should be decoupled with a 100 nF placed as close to the pins as possible, but that's another subject) 2016-05-18T15:33:23 < jpa-> close to the stm32, i would say 2016-05-18T15:33:33 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-18T15:34:16 < jpa-> the idea is that you put just enough caps to make it work on your table and fail in the field after a few years 2016-05-18T15:34:30 < Ecco> :)- 2016-05-18T15:34:36 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T15:35:11 < dGltZW1vYg> does 401 have vcap caps 2016-05-18T15:35:20 < dGltZW1vYg> lack of those fucks you good 2016-05-18T15:35:33 < dGltZW1vYg> the other shit is optional-ish 2016-05-18T15:36:21 < dGltZW1vYg> crt, you'd have to literally pay me to take that 2016-05-18T15:37:01 -!- dGltZW1vYg is now known as b2hzaXg 2016-05-18T15:37:37 < talsit> dongs: do you know any japanese fab that does ceramic pcb? 2016-05-18T15:38:23 < b2hzaXg> d2VsY29tZSB0byBhdXRpc20gaG91ciwgSSdtIHlvdXIgaG9zdCwgb2hzaXgu 2016-05-18T15:38:38 < b2hzaXg> talsit, nope. I only made alu pcb 2016-05-18T15:39:09 < talsit> cool, cheers 2016-05-18T15:39:42 < b2hzaXg> pban has nothing? 2016-05-18T15:39:54 < talsit> maybe if you ask nicely 2016-05-18T15:40:07 < b2hzaXg> they're scammers anyway 2016-05-18T15:40:17 < talsit> on their 1-click they have several fr-4 flavours and rogers 4350 2016-05-18T15:40:25 < b2hzaXg> right 2016-05-18T15:40:32 < talsit> oh, and aluminium 2016-05-18T15:40:40 < kakimir> I need good fpb radio pair 2016-05-18T15:40:45 < kakimir> fpv 2016-05-18T15:40:53 < kakimir> cheapish 2016-05-18T15:41:04 < b2hzaXg> aids 2016-05-18T15:41:18 < b2hzaXg> talsit, whatcha innovating 2016-05-18T15:41:30 < talsit> b2hzaXg: science 2016-05-18T15:41:36 < b2hzaXg> ah. 2016-05-18T15:41:41 < talsit> yep 2016-05-18T15:41:50 < b2hzaXg> I heard those words once 2016-05-18T15:41:58 < kakimir> and potentially modable 2016-05-18T15:42:03 < b2hzaXg> too stoned 2016-05-18T15:42:03 < talsit> "words"? plural? 2016-05-18T15:42:58 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T15:47:03 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T15:49:32 < metRo_> how can I check if an interrupt is called while i'm on that interrupt? 2016-05-18T15:50:09 < __rob> clear the interrupt flag as soon as you enter, then you'll get the next 2016-05-18T15:50:22 < __rob> nothing you can do if they both occur before you've serviced the first 2016-05-18T15:52:18 < metRo_> If i'm serving a interrupt and it occurs again, work I'm doing is lost and the code start from the begin? 2016-05-18T15:53:52 < __rob> your handler will just get called again straight after the first finishes 2016-05-18T16:01:49 < ReadError> guy tries way to hard 2016-05-18T16:02:16 < ReadError> why is he pasting pics from stu 2016-05-18T16:02:24 < ReadError> dongs 2016-05-18T16:03:54 < __rob> amazing, altium cant save 2016-05-18T16:04:13 < ReadError> cant save? 2016-05-18T16:04:23 < __rob> no, gets the old Information bar up 2016-05-18T16:04:33 < ReadError> not sure what you mean 2016-05-18T16:04:35 < __rob> then goes away, then if I try to save again says it cant write 2016-05-18T16:05:05 < __rob> really? you've nevr had that "Information" progress bar thing randomly come up for 20 seconds 2016-05-18T16:05:15 < ReadError> oh ya right before it crashes? 2016-05-18T16:05:20 < __rob> yea 2016-05-18T16:05:21 < ReadError> did you do something fucky 2016-05-18T16:05:23 < __rob> well its doing that on save 2016-05-18T16:05:24 < ReadError> and its checking DRC? 2016-05-18T16:05:34 < ReadError> oh hm not had it happen then 2016-05-18T16:05:34 < __rob> and then it leaves a temp file.$$$ 2016-05-18T16:05:48 < __rob> gonna try and copy and paste it out 2016-05-18T16:05:56 < __rob> like an hour of work there 2016-05-18T16:06:14 < ReadError> what version? 2016-05-18T16:06:53 < __rob> 16 2016-05-18T16:07:29 < __rob> its a real shame they don't spend time sorting it out a bit, I like so much, but there are so many little problems 2016-05-18T16:07:45 < __rob> like the script documentation often being just wrong 2016-05-18T16:08:00 < ReadError> ehh not had it happen at all in 16 2016-05-18T16:08:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.28] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T16:13:13 < b2hzaXg> psh 2016-05-18T16:13:22 < b2hzaXg> ctrl+s every minute bro 2016-05-18T16:16:27 < Rob235> +1 2016-05-18T16:16:36 < Rob235> I save everything constantly 2016-05-18T16:21:42 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T16:22:41 -!- _Getty is now known as Getty 2016-05-18T16:25:28 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T16:35:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-18T16:48:11 < __rob> yea, always when your making lots of progress you forget 2016-05-18T16:48:14 < __rob> me anyway 2016-05-18T16:48:58 < Laurenceb_> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2fd_1463213662 2016-05-18T16:49:00 < Laurenceb_> spotted crt 2016-05-18T16:58:05 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T17:12:14 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T17:13:05 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T17:16:37 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T17:20:47 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-18T17:20:49 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T17:26:23 < Ecco> What would be a pretty standard form factor for an SMT RGB led? 2016-05-18T17:26:29 < dongs> 5050? 2016-05-18T17:27:06 < Ecco> Maybe :) 2016-05-18T17:27:14 < Ecco> But well, wouldn't 5050 have only two pads? 2016-05-18T17:29:21 < Ecco> Apparently PLCC6 2016-05-18T17:50:03 < dongs> (*) Depending on the configuration (mainly PC performance and TCL/TK setup), the application may take 2016-05-18T17:50:07 < dongs> between 20 to 60 seconds to start 2016-05-18T17:50:08 < dongs> fucking lol 2016-05-18T17:58:40 < karlp> that's.... pretty slow. 2016-05-18T17:58:43 < karlp> what app is that? 2016-05-18T17:58:50 < karlp> tat's like old photoshop slow. 2016-05-18T18:00:14 < dongs> some silabs control software 2016-05-18T18:00:17 < dongs> for their shit 2016-05-18T18:00:19 < dongs> it is aids truly 2016-05-18T18:06:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T18:13:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T18:21:12 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-18T18:21:40 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:b490:90f2:91f9:69d7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T18:25:07 < Rob235> 456 movies and 46 tv shows, I think I just like collecting things 2016-05-18T18:25:59 < Rob235> 1.3TB free 2016-05-18T18:27:04 < Tectu> you mean you like buying things 2016-05-18T18:27:10 < Rob235> of course 2016-05-18T18:29:29 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T18:44:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T18:47:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-18T18:47:23 < ReadError> hey 2016-05-18T18:47:27 < ReadError> fuse ratings 2016-05-18T18:47:33 < ReadError> can that be reduced to watts? 2016-05-18T18:47:58 < ReadError> confused because they have a rated voltage 2016-05-18T18:48:14 < b2hzaXg> cocks 2016-05-18T18:48:15 < ReadError> and then the current 2016-05-18T18:48:45 < Tectu> b2hzaXg, please watch your language 2016-05-18T18:48:59 < b2hzaXg> wat 2016-05-18T18:52:24 < b2hzaXg> ecco, ya plcc 6 or 4 2016-05-18T18:52:33 < ReadError> Tectu whats up with them fine swiss escorts 2016-05-18T18:52:47 < ReadError> been sampling the goods lately? 2016-05-18T18:53:50 < Rob235> heat shrink will be here any minute... finish wiring up the drone or school work... 2016-05-18T18:54:14 < b2hzaXg> sampling the dongs 2016-05-18T18:54:18 < Rob235> oh it already is here, why didn't I get a text 2016-05-18T18:54:22 < b2hzaXg> amirite 2016-05-18T18:54:27 < Tectu> ReadError, has been a while :/ 2016-05-18T18:55:06 -!- Abhishek__ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ayangrpwylliuutt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T18:55:22 < Tectu> ReadError, next two weeks will be pretty much escort-less I'm afraid 2016-05-18T18:55:47 < ReadError> they might be worried something happened to you 2016-05-18T18:56:02 < Rob235> they might be worried something happened to his money 2016-05-18T18:56:11 < Tectu> they still get their checks 2016-05-18T19:02:40 < Rob235> damn this red heat shrink is too pink, at least I still have some red left 2016-05-18T19:03:33 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-18T19:03:51 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmdrpkfadbfrukku] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-18T19:04:10 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgmqrnqxiqddyxvw] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T19:04:58 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T19:05:43 < Laurenceb_> no excort? 2016-05-18T19:05:54 < Laurenceb_> ford escort or adultwork escort? 2016-05-18T19:06:31 < Laurenceb_> no escort makes you a wizard 2016-05-18T19:23:52 < Ecco> I'm not sure I'm understanding timers and channels correctly 2016-05-18T19:24:08 < Ecco> I'd like to drive an RGB LED using PWM 2016-05-18T19:24:19 < Ecco> R, G, and B duty cycles should be settable independently 2016-05-18T19:24:40 < Ecco> Can I use a single timer (TIM1 for example), with a given rate (something higher thatn retina persistence) 2016-05-18T19:24:51 < Ecco> and use 3 channels to drive the PWM ratio independently? 2016-05-18T19:31:08 < Laurenceb_> holy shit ppl are reading my thesis 2016-05-18T19:31:17 < Laurenceb_> they've been trolld hard 2016-05-18T19:31:27 < Ecco> :-) 2016-05-18T19:33:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T19:34:45 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T19:35:00 < Laurenceb_> email arriving already 2016-05-18T19:35:25 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to have to dish out some advice 2016-05-18T19:36:37 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-18T19:39:21 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-18T19:49:57 < Ecco> What's wrong with this pad: 2016-05-18T19:50:00 < Ecco> ◊ 2016-05-18T19:50:01 < Ecco> http://i.imgur.com/2FQKYVb.png 2016-05-18T19:50:12 < Ecco> Why such a large pad for the bottom-left one? 2016-05-18T19:51:00 < englishman> Enabling Next Generation M2M Communication 2016-05-18T19:51:03 < englishman> isnt that what grindr is for 2016-05-18T19:53:15 < Laurenceb_> you would know 2016-05-18T19:54:19 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/portable-dental-X-ray-made-in-JAPAN-/172202880323 2016-05-18T19:54:23 < ReadError> attn dongs 2016-05-18T19:54:25 < ReadError> b2hzaXg 2016-05-18T19:54:30 < ReadError> sniped like a ninja 2016-05-18T19:54:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T19:54:58 < ReadError> pretty good deal compared to the other shits ive seen 2016-05-18T19:56:47 < Steffanx> you bought that? 2016-05-18T19:56:58 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-18T19:57:10 < ReadError> pew pew 2016-05-18T19:58:15 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-18T20:02:46 < englishman> you gonna get cancerized 2016-05-18T20:03:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:04:42 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:04:42 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-18T20:04:42 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:05:24 < ReadError> prolly get that from something else anyways 2016-05-18T20:05:31 < ReadError> not like its running too much 2016-05-18T20:06:59 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:09:42 < Laurenceb_> perfectly safe if you dont act like a prat with it 2016-05-18T20:10:11 < Laurenceb_> neutron beam inspection is where its at 2016-05-18T20:10:31 < englishman> related http://dai.ly/x43b5ij?start=669 2016-05-18T20:16:01 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:22:45 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:23:36 < AndreeeCZ> hi! I have stm32f407 discovery and when i try to use GPIOB9 as pulldown, it's always pulled down 2016-05-18T20:23:40 < AndreeeCZ> is gpiob9 special? 2016-05-18T20:24:06 < ReadError> check the datasheet on the disco ? 2016-05-18T20:24:20 < ReadError> theres so much shit something could be connected 2016-05-18T20:24:39 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, i have it in front of me, but dont understand it 2016-05-18T20:24:56 < AndreeeCZ> http://i.imgur.com/CIhBwzr.png 2016-05-18T20:25:00 < ReadError> ctrl+f for PB9 2016-05-18T20:25:09 < ReadError> no no 2016-05-18T20:25:16 < ReadError> you want the one for the discovery 2016-05-18T20:25:38 < AndreeeCZ> ah 2016-05-18T20:25:57 < AndreeeCZ> but it is 2016-05-18T20:26:26 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/user_manual/70/fe/4a/3f/e7/e1/4f/7d/DM00039084.pdf/files/DM00039084.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00039084.pdf 2016-05-18T20:30:32 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T20:31:07 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, any ideas? 2016-05-18T20:34:09 < ReadError> SWIM_IN ? 2016-05-18T20:34:21 < ReadError> oh thats stlink 2016-05-18T20:34:28 < Rob235> ;alsdkj 2016-05-18T20:34:44 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, i dont understand 2016-05-18T20:34:51 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/13vYK9.jpg 2016-05-18T20:35:01 -!- Theremin [~amir@chello085216129094.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:35:41 < AndreeeCZ> oh? wtf is that 2016-05-18T20:35:54 < AndreeeCZ> vdd->4.7kohm->pb9 2016-05-18T20:36:09 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/USe04o.jpg 2016-05-18T20:36:30 < ReadError> maybe you should just use a diff pin 2016-05-18T20:37:06 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:37:13 < AndreeeCZ> that would be difficult at this point 2016-05-18T20:37:22 < AndreeeCZ> is there a way i could use this ping? 2016-05-18T20:37:31 < ReadError> its connected to some audio shit 2016-05-18T20:37:42 < ReadError> this is why you dont buy discos! 2016-05-18T20:38:05 < AndreeeCZ> i guess sometimes audio is handy 2016-05-18T20:38:12 < AndreeeCZ> but can i use it somehow as a regular gpio? 2016-05-18T20:38:15 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/cWh3sC.jpg 2016-05-18T20:38:24 < ReadError> theres no way you control+f'd that file 2016-05-18T20:38:40 < ReadError> maybe cut the trace to the audio IC 2016-05-18T20:38:46 < ReadError> and to VDD 2016-05-18T20:38:51 < ReadError> looks like its the i2c pullup 2016-05-18T20:39:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-18T20:40:26 < AndreeeCZ> do you know of a list that lists all the ports i can really use? 2016-05-18T20:40:27 < AndreeeCZ> as gpios 2016-05-18T20:40:31 < AndreeeCZ> this is insane 2016-05-18T20:40:38 < ReadError> no i dont 2016-05-18T20:40:44 < ReadError> you have the datasheet 2016-05-18T20:40:56 < ReadError> im not about to go through and do something you can do 2016-05-18T20:41:18 < AndreeeCZ> of course 2016-05-18T20:41:33 < Rob235> weird, you ever go to put the wrong cap on a bottle and it actually fits? 2016-05-18T20:44:21 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, ok maybe the other way around: is there a list of ports that i cant use? :) 2016-05-18T20:44:30 < ReadError> bro 2016-05-18T20:44:32 < ReadError> look at the pdf 2016-05-18T20:44:37 < ReadError> make a list 2016-05-18T20:44:38 < AndreeeCZ> i have 27 buttons i need to connect, surely there must be a better way than to check every single ping 2016-05-18T20:44:44 < ReadError> you have teh same info I do 2016-05-18T20:44:44 < AndreeeCZ> pin* 2016-05-18T20:44:47 < AndreeeCZ> ok 2016-05-18T20:45:40 < ReadError> use a mux 2016-05-18T20:45:42 < ReadError> or some shit 2016-05-18T20:46:06 < ReadError> then just run through all the combos really quick 2016-05-18T20:46:48 < AndreeeCZ> doesn't that disallow some combinations of pressed buttons at the same time? 2016-05-18T20:46:54 < karlp> AndreeeCZ: you reallllly should have made a board with the f4 on it yourself instead of trying to reuse the disco board. 2016-05-18T20:47:03 < ReadError> get a nucleo 2016-05-18T20:47:24 < AndreeeCZ> karlp, i wouldn't be able to solder it, isn't it a pain to solder by hand? 2016-05-18T20:47:25 < ReadError> AndreeeCZ no if you cycle through all the combos on the mux fast enough you can read 2016-05-18T20:48:03 < ReadError> you can do all this on 5 pins + 1 output 2016-05-18T20:48:04 < karlp> way less pain that continually finding tha tyou didn't read the schematic for the disco board and now have to cut and splice and hack 2016-05-18T20:48:25 < ReadError> on input to the stm32 rather.. 2016-05-18T20:48:48 < ReadError> also how where u planning on doing all this anyways? theres no enough exti 2016-05-18T20:48:50 < ReadError> not* 2016-05-18T20:49:15 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, just reading all the pins sequentially 2016-05-18T20:49:21 < ReadError> well ya so 2016-05-18T20:49:25 < ReadError> just use the mux 2016-05-18T20:49:36 < ReadError> and it would be easy 2016-05-18T20:49:43 < karlp> ReadError: exti is just for interrupts, you can still poll all the pins 2016-05-18T20:49:49 < ReadError> karlp yea 2016-05-18T20:50:00 < ReadError> but polling 27 pins seems kinda dumb 2016-05-18T20:50:09 < ReadError> for buttons 2016-05-18T20:50:17 < AndreeeCZ> hmmm 2016-05-18T20:50:35 < AndreeeCZ> 5 pins + output sounds reasonable 2016-05-18T20:52:13 < AndreeeCZ> ok guys thanks for your help 2016-05-18T20:52:28 < AndreeeCZ> i thought connecting a bunch of buttons to a devboard would be simpler :( 2016-05-18T20:55:52 < karlp> you never thought those onboard peripherals used for examples might be an issue? 2016-05-18T20:56:04 < karlp> you never read the user manual for the disco board that said what pins were in use? 2016-05-18T20:56:19 < AndreeeCZ> i thought i could switch them off with alternate functions or something like that 2016-05-18T20:56:20 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:56:38 < ReadError> you got the wrong board 2016-05-18T20:56:44 < ReadError> basically 2016-05-18T20:56:53 < ReadError> nucleo has much less crap on it 2016-05-18T20:56:57 < ReadError> so most all pins are usable 2016-05-18T20:57:05 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, ok i'll check it out 2016-05-18T20:57:19 < AndreeeCZ> or mux (though i don't exactly know how that is done at this point) 2016-05-18T20:57:27 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T20:57:51 < ReadError> what are you trying to do anyways with 27 buttons?? 2016-05-18T20:57:58 < AndreeeCZ> a musical keyboard 2016-05-18T21:00:17 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, NUCLEO-F103RB ? 2016-05-18T21:00:18 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-18T21:00:34 < ReadError> they have a bunch 2016-05-18T21:01:26 < ReadError> or you can get a 144 pin monster nucleo 2016-05-18T21:02:17 < AndreeeCZ> i just need 27 :D 2016-05-18T21:02:42 < ReadError> well you need more 2016-05-18T21:02:48 < ReadError> if you want it to actually do anything 2016-05-18T21:03:01 < AndreeeCZ> well yes, + uart 2016-05-18T21:05:58 < b2hzaXg> dude. 2016-05-18T21:06:13 < b2hzaXg> use shift registers for keyboard matrix 2016-05-18T21:06:23 < b2hzaXg> Google midibox dio 2016-05-18T21:06:32 < b2hzaXg> or midibox matrix 2016-05-18T21:06:49 < b2hzaXg> 74hc159 or something 2016-05-18T21:06:52 < b2hzaXg> cascaded 2016-05-18T21:06:57 < b2hzaXg> only need 3 io 2016-05-18T21:07:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-18T21:07:28 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T21:08:14 < ReadError> http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=kb:sm_shematics2.gif 2016-05-18T21:09:03 < AndreeeCZ> b2hzaXg, but for that i need to get more IC's, right? 2016-05-18T21:09:03 < b2hzaXg> er ya 165 maybe not 159 2016-05-18T21:09:13 < b2hzaXg> yes they're $.10 2016-05-18T21:09:21 < b2hzaXg> and in dip 2016-05-18T21:09:28 < b2hzaXg> you can't go wrong 2016-05-18T21:09:56 < AndreeeCZ> i will go wrong 2016-05-18T21:10:02 < ReadError> http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_dio_matrix.html 2016-05-18T21:10:07 < AndreeeCZ> is the muxing method not recommended? 2016-05-18T21:10:07 < ReadError> http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_dio_matrix.pdf 2016-05-18T21:10:18 < ReadError> http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_dio_matrix_8x8buttons.pdf 2016-05-18T21:10:40 < b2hzaXg> what stoner is posting. do that 2016-05-18T21:10:56 < ReadError> b2hzaXg got xray 2016-05-18T21:10:59 < ReadError> just need senzor 2016-05-18T21:11:18 < b2hzaXg> you don't "have" to use matrix you can just shift in all the buttons with cascaded 74shits 2016-05-18T21:11:44 < b2hzaXg> saw 2016-05-18T21:12:39 < b2hzaXg> 74hc165 2016-05-18T21:12:43 < b2hzaXg> bbl 2016-05-18T21:14:28 < AndreeeCZ> ReadError, are you sure the muxing method doesnt restrict on the number of simultaneus presses? 2016-05-18T21:14:40 < ReadError> go w/ that matrix shit 2016-05-18T21:17:18 < b2hzaXg> if you shift in all 27 then you can press as many as you want 2016-05-18T21:17:26 < b2hzaXg> matrix will have ghost keys 2016-05-18T21:18:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-18T21:18:42 < gxti> you can fix ghost keys by putting a diode in series with each switch. too lazy to read up to see whether that's even relevant. 2016-05-18T21:19:12 < b2hzaXg> oh. that schematic had diodes 2016-05-18T21:19:21 < b2hzaXg> so that fixes it? 2016-05-18T21:19:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.19] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T21:21:12 < gxti> yes, with a diode on every switch current can only flow from column to row (or whatever the intended direction is); ghosting happens because it can flow from the active row back to an inactive column 2016-05-18T21:22:51 < b2hzaXg> oh okay good to know 2016-05-18T21:34:54 < daey> alright. i took some time. and tried to reunderstand the whole only cmsis stm32 programming thing. 2016-05-18T21:35:43 < daey> i get the use for the linkerfile.ld a startup_.s 2016-05-18T21:36:39 < daey> the headerfiles are essentially ONLY memory address naming definitions correct? so that i can write pointer->porta instead of pointer->0x88 correct? 2016-05-18T21:43:13 -!- Theremin [~amir@chello085216129094.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-18T22:09:00 -!- Abhishek__ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ayangrpwylliuutt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-18T22:12:28 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-18T22:29:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-18T22:32:15 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:b490:90f2:91f9:69d7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-18T22:35:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T22:49:14 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T22:54:23 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-18T22:57:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T23:04:13 < zyp> ohsix, looks like that's still true for cortex-a 2016-05-18T23:04:23 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-18T23:04:30 < zyp> even ARMv8 2016-05-18T23:04:32 < zyp> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.den0024a/BABEGIJE.html 2016-05-18T23:18:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: machine heating, going offline for cleanup] 2016-05-18T23:22:54 < zyp> idk, I haven't really touched older ARM than cortex 2016-05-18T23:23:28 < zyp> but it sounds weird if it can't be turned off to save area when not needed 2016-05-18T23:36:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.18.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-18T23:52:49 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-18T23:54:19 < daey> lol 7k USD starting price. NICE it can use git --- Day changed Thu May 19 2016 2016-05-19T00:15:35 < karlp> bleh, gowdy.us back up, but now failing registration... 2016-05-19T00:21:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-19T00:29:54 < karlp> wow, most obscure justfication for a certain code style, "2) I didn't want to pollute the code with additional branches which could adversely affect the branch predictor (i.e. less code, but worse performance)." 2016-05-19T00:30:15 < karlp> that's absolutely the sort of claim that has to be quantified. weirdos 2016-05-19T00:33:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T00:34:05 -!- ou5x is now known as oz4ga 2016-05-19T00:37:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T00:41:35 < Rob235> I really wish apple used stronger magnets for the power cables 2016-05-19T00:48:55 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T00:57:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T01:10:09 < karlp> ohsix: sounded like some serious cargo culting being used as an excuse not to follow existing style in a project :) 2016-05-19T01:13:33 < upgrdman> wtf. Patch Tuesday this week is no joke for the Surface Bro 4. i've got like 30 updates and they require restarting. lets hope they fixed more shit 2016-05-19T01:14:12 < upgrdman> never heard of that 2016-05-19T01:14:20 < upgrdman> idiots jizzing on their pro4's? 2016-05-19T01:17:42 < upgrdman> this shit gets hot enough when generating fpga bitstream or editing videos. i dont wanna think about the lipo going into runaway on top of that 2016-05-19T01:18:38 < upgrdman> side note, if any of you guys have a Note 5 Duos phone, the update to Marshmallow noticable improved battery life for me. like 30% better. 2016-05-19T01:18:54 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-19T01:19:11 < upgrdman> its their fagship phone, specifically the dual SIM version 2016-05-19T01:21:16 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-crhquftceoupsjwu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-19T01:21:35 < kakimir> upgrdman: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL88D33D34A498DFE2 2016-05-19T01:23:10 < upgrdman> cool 2016-05-19T01:23:17 < upgrdman> i'll have ot check them out later 2016-05-19T01:28:13 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/llWJZw.png 2016-05-19T01:32:10 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-nhfozuzcikpwursb] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T01:44:59 < aandrew> http://i.imgur.com/4IjsPow.jpg 2016-05-19T01:47:57 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-19T01:52:31 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-05-19T01:53:07 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/gOZizC.png 2016-05-19T01:55:01 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T01:57:26 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T02:01:50 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T02:01:51 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-19T02:22:17 < karlp> hal driver doc is autogen shit though 2016-05-19T02:37:39 < Laurenceb_> rapeculture confirmed 2016-05-19T02:39:14 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2FLQtdZ9Ng 2016-05-19T02:46:01 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-19T02:49:07 < aadamson> ohsix, don't use hal, or the L0, but on the F0, L1, etc there is a stdperiph lib command to disable the sys wakeup if you are going to use the pin for something else 2016-05-19T03:02:07 < Laurenceb_> http://www.zgrethphoto.com/Learn/Exp/Tut/SpaceX 2016-05-19T03:06:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T03:07:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T03:09:00 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T03:09:30 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T03:10:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T03:11:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T03:14:10 < upgrdman_> is there a name for 4wire fans other than "4 wire" ? e.g. the fans you can set RPM by giving it a signal. i need a 24v one, not a 12v pc fan 2016-05-19T03:15:58 < b2hzaXg> pretty sure those only exist for PC 2016-05-19T03:16:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-19T03:18:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-19T03:26:27 < upgrdman_> oh, nm. turns out the key word is "pwm" ... there's plenty of them for 24v and 48v, e.g. http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=9GA0524P7H001virtualkey57900000virtualkey978-9GA0524P7H001 2016-05-19T03:33:35 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-19T03:54:29 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node204.9.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T03:56:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T03:56:43 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hmucde0v51s 2016-05-19T03:57:05 < Laurenceb_> where winning just makes you an autist 2016-05-19T03:58:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-19T03:58:54 < Laurenceb_> maybe we weren't connd by emdrive guy 2016-05-19T04:01:40 < Laurenceb_> O_o 2016-05-19T04:01:57 < Laurenceb_> not sure if thats a euphemism 2016-05-19T04:02:08 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-05-19T04:02:25 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-19T04:02:42 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T04:02:44 < Laurenceb_> I keep getting emailed with job offers 2016-05-19T04:02:55 < Laurenceb_> people reading my CV 2016-05-19T04:03:00 < Laurenceb_> I mean thesis lol 2016-05-19T04:03:06 < englishman> why did you post your cv to grindr 2016-05-19T04:03:08 < Laurenceb_> I wish they were reading my CV 2016-05-19T04:03:22 < Laurenceb_> but they think capillary refill time is real 2016-05-19T04:03:33 < Laurenceb_> I need copypasta to send to them 2016-05-19T04:03:46 < Laurenceb_> capillary refill time is a waste of time 2016-05-19T04:05:10 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node204.9.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-19T04:05:24 < Laurenceb_> http://www.gcs16.com/uploads/1/7/9/2/17925143/20a587c0-d6fa-433a-92e7-48741e1be365.pdf 2016-05-19T04:05:33 < Laurenceb_> The low sensitivity means that a normal capillary 2016-05-19T04:05:33 < Laurenceb_> refill time should not reassure clinicians. 2016-05-19T04:05:44 < Laurenceb_> but I think it's even worse than that 2016-05-19T04:06:23 < aadamson> ohsix, on the F0 it's called PWR_WakeUpPinCmd(PWR_WakePin_1, DISABLE); 2016-05-19T04:06:31 < aadamson> similar on the L1, but not sure on the L0 2016-05-19T04:06:38 < aadamson> that's from stdperiph 2016-05-19T04:07:37 < aadamson> and I CUBE I have no freaking idea where/what/etc (I seriously wish that stuff would die!!!) 2016-05-19T04:08:23 < aadamson> if only there were a stdperiph for the L0 ... :( 2016-05-19T04:09:05 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ajemjournal.com/article/S0735-6757%2807%2900450-0/abstract 2016-05-19T04:09:19 < Laurenceb_> normal CRT in the Australian context 2016-05-19T04:09:32 < Laurenceb_> Its suitability as a reliable clinical test is doubtful. 2016-05-19T04:09:34 < Laurenceb_> THIS 2016-05-19T04:09:36 < Laurenceb_> Its suitability as a reliable clinical test is doubtful. 2016-05-19T04:09:41 < Laurenceb_> copypasta copypasta 2016-05-19T04:11:06 < aadamson> ohsix, yeah, but when you have driver for hardware functions - i2c, serial, spi, timers, etc, etc, for the L1, F4, F2, F1, F0, F3 and they are all in stdperiph, I just can't switch (but probably will have too to do the L0/L4... :() 2016-05-19T04:11:44 < dongs> autism in progress 2016-05-19T04:12:50 < aadamson> yeah, but the whole premise was one interface similar for all platforms... that aint even close to what CUBE did 2016-05-19T04:13:15 < aadamson> (partly because peripherals are different between the various processors, but they still could have done it right - and didn't) 2016-05-19T04:13:29 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node108.10.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T04:13:52 < aadamson> yeah I konw 2016-05-19T04:20:34 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T04:22:42 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T04:33:15 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-19T04:33:55 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T04:36:59 < Rob235> oh shit 2016-05-19T04:37:10 < Rob235> ohsix: I forgot I ordered one a while ago too 2016-05-19T04:37:16 < Rob235> how long did it take to get yours? 2016-05-19T04:38:03 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vvamhthmknjirjvj] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T04:38:46 < Rob235> 13 days ago 2016-05-19T04:39:12 < Rob235> let me know if you figure out anything with it 2016-05-19T04:43:56 < dongs> day 2 of bust out logic analyzer because vendor is too dumb to provide proper reference code 2016-05-19T04:45:25 < Rob235> dongs 2016-05-19T04:45:29 < Rob235> how is the cx30 2016-05-19T04:45:41 < dongs> no fucking idea 2016-05-19T04:45:43 < dongs> forgot it was coming 2016-05-19T04:45:56 < Rob235> me too, ohsix just got his 2016-05-19T04:46:27 < dongs> too bad he wouldn't shut the fuck up months ago and is on ignore 2016-05-19T04:46:33 < Rob235> hah 2016-05-19T04:47:49 -!- aawa [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T04:50:57 < aawa> Hi. I have a problem with doing a simple uart echo code on stm32. can someone tell me what's wrong? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37297318/cannot-transmit-every-characters-through-uart 2016-05-19T04:53:03 < aawa> ohsix, are u referring to my code? 2016-05-19T04:53:13 < aawa> the code looks simple enough 2016-05-19T04:53:35 < aawa> could you tell me what is wrong? 2016-05-19T04:54:04 < aawa> ok. 2016-05-19T04:55:48 < Rob235> fly it already 2016-05-19T05:02:28 < Rob235> and sorry aawa, dunno, haven't worked with the HAL library before 2016-05-19T05:03:17 < aawa> Rob235, no problem. which library do you use? I thought everyone would use HAL since CubeMX is easy to use 2016-05-19T05:04:03 < Rob235> I started with the coocox coide which uses stdPeriph 2016-05-19T05:04:27 < Rob235> still working on my first project so I haven't switched over to cube yet 2016-05-19T05:07:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T05:17:03 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-19T05:20:13 < ReadError> ohsix does it work? 2016-05-19T05:20:34 < ReadError> this is the $6 one I posted?? 2016-05-19T05:20:42 < ReadError> damn 2016-05-19T05:20:46 < ReadError> so its like a zano? 2016-05-19T05:20:53 < ReadError> you see video on phone? 2016-05-19T05:21:34 < ReadError> whats the latency/quality like? 2016-05-19T05:21:43 < dongs> i heard its pretty garbage on assdroid 2016-05-19T05:21:50 < dongs> all the sellers warn about it being stuttery or someshit 2016-05-19T05:23:03 < ReadError> so i wonder, can be used as ghetto IP cams around house? 2016-05-19T05:23:16 < dongs> autism cams 2016-05-19T05:23:23 < ReadError> like you tried to connect and nmap it? 2016-05-19T05:24:42 < ReadError> ohsix ----> http://www.ebay.com/itm/172202880323?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 2016-05-19T05:24:45 < ReadError> got thhis bish 2016-05-19T05:25:28 < ReadError> where did you order the cx from again? 2016-05-19T05:27:09 < ReadError> hehe 2016-05-19T05:27:11 < dongs> my "netherlands post" tracking is happening 2016-05-19T05:27:13 < ReadError> they have some script 2016-05-19T05:27:15 < dongs> 2016-05-17 03:19 The item is ready for shipment 2016-05-19T05:27:16 < dongs> 2016-05-12 05:59 The item is pre-advised 2016-05-19T05:27:16 < ReadError> said 5 avail 2016-05-19T05:27:25 < ReadError> ordereed 3 2016-05-19T05:27:34 < ReadError> go back, 5 avail 2016-05-19T05:27:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:49ab:2b3c:c3be:b86e] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T05:27:40 < ReadError> hmm i never got tracking 2016-05-19T05:27:50 < dongs> no this is different 2016-05-19T05:27:54 < dongs> this is something ordered from chian 2016-05-19T05:27:58 < dongs> that got sent by "netherlands post" 2016-05-19T05:28:01 < dongs> wiht RSxxxNL tracking 2016-05-19T05:28:17 < ReadError> dongs oh 2016-05-19T05:28:22 < ReadError> seen a lot of sites do that 2016-05-19T05:28:24 < dongs> i just checked my cx didnt have tracking 2016-05-19T05:28:27 < ReadError> unsure the reason exactly 2016-05-19T05:28:30 < dongs> ReadError: does it acutally go to NL 2016-05-19T05:28:34 < dongs> like the hobbyking swisspost 2016-05-19T05:28:39 < ReadError> i forget :( 2016-05-19T05:28:49 < ReadError> ive done it before, dont recall any major issues 2016-05-19T05:29:11 < ReadError> ohsix where the high qual macroz 2016-05-19T05:29:36 < dongs> autism6 doesnt have a camera 2016-05-19T05:29:42 < dongs> so all he can provide is boring annoying chats 2016-05-19T05:29:46 < dongs> thus -> ignore 2016-05-19T05:30:12 < ReadError> dongs 2016-05-19T05:30:23 < ReadError> hes talking about how he got his 6$ ebay zano i posted 2016-05-19T05:30:28 < ReadError> and it actually works 2016-05-19T05:30:34 < dongs> i could have guessed that from all the context 2016-05-19T05:30:45 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/O2pCovn.jpg 2016-05-19T05:30:47 < dongs> mine will be here soon enough, I dont care. 2016-05-19T05:30:49 < ReadError> then he posted this :( 2016-05-19T05:30:57 < ReadError> after I asked for an HQ photo 2016-05-19T05:31:00 < dongs> I spot PIC32MZ 2016-05-19T05:31:03 < dongs> TQFP 2016-05-19T05:31:34 < ReadError> ohsix you can do better than this 2016-05-19T05:31:38 < ReadError> i have faith 2016-05-19T05:32:44 < ReadError> did it require a signature? 2016-05-19T05:32:58 < ReadError> I have probably 40 motors coming from these people 2016-05-19T05:33:05 < ReadError> and that zano 2016-05-19T05:33:22 < ReadError> 68% ? where u see this 2016-05-19T05:34:11 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162053733518?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=461020212843&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 2016-05-19T05:34:22 < ReadError> dont see anything about 68% D; 2016-05-19T05:35:05 < ReadError> t***e ( 65Feedback score is 50 to 99) 2016-05-19T05:35:11 < ReadError> that must be dongs 2016-05-19T05:35:14 < ReadError> or you 2016-05-19T05:35:56 < ReadError> ordered 1 originally after I did 2016-05-19T05:36:12 < ReadError> and 2 more just 20 mins ago 2016-05-19T05:36:32 < ReadError> ahh 2016-05-19T05:36:44 < ReadError> so i need a way to test an xray 2016-05-19T05:36:51 < dongs> lol, readstoner were you the first one to order? 2016-05-19T05:37:02 < ReadError> to make sure things work before I invest in a sensor 2016-05-19T05:37:04 < dongs> feedback 313 2016-05-19T05:37:13 < ReadError> yp 2016-05-19T05:37:18 < ReadError> thats me 2016-05-19T05:38:26 < ReadError> ohsix that changes 2016-05-19T05:38:39 < ReadError> they have some bot that adjust #s 2016-05-19T05:40:06 < ReadError> ahh i see 2016-05-19T05:44:16 < ReadError> ya thats what i was saying 2016-05-19T05:44:44 < ReadError> motors did the same thing 2016-05-19T06:02:14 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-greoqbjnbrsgtepr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T06:03:38 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ivaovnzonfapxgvb] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T06:05:11 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node108.10.251.72.1dial.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-19T06:19:10 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-19T06:19:36 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T06:48:34 < dongs> ReadError: maybe its to prvent you from buying 10 at once 2016-05-19T06:48:50 < dongs> does ebay have limit x per customer? 2016-05-19T07:01:13 < upgrdman> wtf 2016-05-19T07:01:18 < upgrdman> anyone worn out the flash on an stm32? 2016-05-19T07:01:32 < upgrdman> i have an old dev board and now im gettings lots of errors 2016-05-19T07:01:36 < upgrdman> when trying to flash 2016-05-19T07:01:51 < upgrdman> Error: error starting target flash write algorithm 2016-05-19T07:02:08 < upgrdman> other times: 2016-05-19T07:02:09 < upgrdman> Error: failed erasing sectors 0 to 32 2016-05-19T07:02:11 < upgrdman> etc. 2016-05-19T07:03:07 < dongs> nice 2016-05-19T07:03:27 < upgrdman> Error: jtag status contains invalid mode value - communication failure 2016-05-19T07:03:29 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-19T07:03:37 < upgrdman> lemme try another cable for swd 2016-05-19T07:08:55 < upgrdman> pic 2016-05-19T07:10:03 < dongs> pic32 2016-05-19T07:11:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T07:18:40 < upgrdman> what listing 2016-05-19T07:24:01 < upgrdman> wtf. this servo use 850Hz PWM. like not even 1kHz... wtf 2016-05-19T07:24:13 < upgrdman> no wonder it's noisey as fuck 2016-05-19T07:24:32 < upgrdman> wtf are they doing, bit banging the pwm with an arduino under the epoxy blob 2016-05-19T07:25:33 < upgrdman> its not 2016-05-19T07:25:36 < upgrdman> fixed freq 2016-05-19T07:25:38 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-19T07:25:54 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T07:29:48 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T07:29:49 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-19T07:32:10 < upgrdman> how about a resistor + zener ? ;) 2016-05-19T07:33:10 -!- eft [~nik@2601:647:4204:de20:c94b:3ab9:7e2e:edef] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T07:35:53 < upgrdman> minute faggot guy? 2016-05-19T07:37:53 < dongs> whats the transmitter + antenna dbm formula, just add? 2016-05-19T07:38:25 < upgrdman> could anyone make an uglier monitor... wtf http://www.amazon.com/Acer-S277HK-wmidpp-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00RN08ELC?ie=UTF8&keywords=4k%20ips&qid=1463632660&ref_=sr_1_8&sr=8-8 2016-05-19T07:38:48 < dongs> hehe the gook 31" 4K looks all hand made 2016-05-19T07:38:53 < dongs> it came with a machined aluminum stand 2016-05-19T07:38:55 < dongs> it wobbles in teh wind 2016-05-19T07:48:03 < dongs> awesome docs, silabs 2016-05-19T07:48:22 < dongs> RESP1 3:0 FIELD_E <description of values> <Description of FIELD_E> 2016-05-19T07:48:34 < dongs> someone got carried away wiht templates 2016-05-19T07:54:52 < ReadError> ohsix best thing is 2016-05-19T07:54:59 < ReadError> these little USB shits 2016-05-19T07:55:08 < ReadError> made for charing 1s 2016-05-19T07:55:15 < ReadError> like 2$ a pop 2016-05-19T07:55:28 < ReadError> or 1$ from china 2016-05-19T07:55:49 < ReadError> well with a real IC its settable 2016-05-19T07:56:08 < ReadError> lot of the china toy quad chargers are scary/garbage 2016-05-19T07:57:21 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/10X-TP4056-1A-Lipo-Battery-Charging-Board-Charger-Module-Mini-USB-Interface-/111994127829 2016-05-19T07:57:39 < ReadError> they have better ones too... 2016-05-19T07:57:41 < ReadError> with protection 2016-05-19T07:57:59 -!- eft [~nik@c-67-188-115-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T07:57:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T07:59:53 < dongs> HEXACHARGER 2016-05-19T08:02:09 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T08:02:12 < aawa> code generated by CubeMX is in C language. Can I enable it to use C++ by changing file extension to .cpp? any side effect? 2016-05-19T08:02:41 < dongs> what compiler? 2016-05-19T08:03:51 < aawa> ohsix, if I do not change extension, how can I use C++ keywords and write object-oriented stuff? 2016-05-19T08:04:06 < jpa-> aawa: probably can, why not just try? 2016-05-19T08:04:54 < aawa> ohsix, i see. good, I will change main.c to main.cpp then 2016-05-19T08:05:31 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-19T08:15:30 < ReadError> ohsix not wireless tho, is it? 2016-05-19T08:20:15 -!- AndreeeCZ [~AndreeeCZ@ip-89-102-171-94.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-19T08:23:50 < dongs> more retarded code 2016-05-19T08:23:55 < dongs> unbsignd int reserved; 2016-05-19T08:23:59 < dongs> unsigned long blah; 2016-05-19T08:24:09 < dongs> yea lets be totally specific about the size of the fucking thing 2016-05-19T08:24:17 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T08:27:47 < aawa> after changing main.c to main.cpp, the code size remains the same. looks good! 2016-05-19T08:30:44 < upgrdman> https://i.reddituploads.com/46c6802ae81c417092cf86f5210d5ef0?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=9754e5f4e7afedf7ebf18544219d892b 2016-05-19T08:35:25 < upgrdman> Doge has been up to some weird shit http://i.imgur.com/SkcZlg1.gifv 2016-05-19T08:41:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6febe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T08:42:22 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T08:45:37 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T08:56:21 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T08:56:22 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-19T08:56:33 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-19T08:57:34 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-6.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T08:57:54 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-6.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-19T09:01:09 -!- b2hzaXg [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T09:04:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-19T09:16:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6febe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T09:23:13 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T09:24:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-19T09:33:27 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T09:33:58 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-19T09:39:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T09:41:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.108] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T09:42:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-05-19T09:43:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T09:48:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T09:51:54 < ReadError> how so? 2016-05-19T09:58:59 < ReadError> ohsix 2016-05-19T09:59:02 < ReadError> whats the pc app 2016-05-19T09:59:07 < ReadError> for the fake zano 2016-05-19T10:02:43 < ReadError> wait theres no live video? 2016-05-19T10:17:20 < ReadError> ahh interesting 2016-05-19T10:20:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-19T10:26:01 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-19T10:52:54 < PeterM> [12:36] <ReadError> so i need a way to test an xray - http://www.ebay.com/itm/JPI-X-Ray-Film-Cassette-14x17-/191783692277?hash=item2ca732e7f5:g:AS4AAOSwqrtWmT~V 2016-05-19T10:54:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T10:56:52 < PeterM> get one of those, it is basically two panels that flouress(sp?) under x-rays, and oyu sandwich the x-ray film sheets inbetween them and it exposes the film to an xray image when it is p[laced on the other side of a target 2016-05-19T10:57:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-19T10:57:39 < PeterM> so for ghetto xray capture, you could have oen opened behind the thing oyu want to xray, put a angled mirror and then point your camera at the mirror 2016-05-19T10:58:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T10:59:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.86] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T11:00:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-19T11:16:27 < daey> are void PUT32 and unsigned int GET32 common functions? I have the declaration of those functions in a project, but im unable to find the definitions for them 2016-05-19T11:21:17 < zyp> heh 2016-05-19T11:21:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:49ab:2b3c:c3be:b86e] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T11:22:14 < zyp> I assume they'll be something like this: void PUT32(uint32_t addr, uint32_t value) { *(volatile uint32_t*)addr = value; } 2016-05-19T11:22:44 < zyp> and uint32_t GET32(uint32_t addr) { return *(volatile uint32_t*)addr; } 2016-05-19T11:22:54 < zyp> but that's just going by the names 2016-05-19T11:23:10 < zyp> and that seems like a pretty dumb way of doing that too 2016-05-19T11:24:29 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-05-19T11:29:18 < daey> zyp: if they were like that i wouldn't be asking :p. they are like this 'void PUT32 ( unsigned int, unsigned int );' 2016-05-19T11:32:28 < zyp> yes? 2016-05-19T11:32:40 < zyp> unsigned int is uint32_t 2016-05-19T11:32:44 < zyp> I don't see the difference 2016-05-19T11:34:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-19T11:34:55 < daey> zyp: the whole { } part is missing 2016-05-19T11:38:02 < ReadError> PeterM some material that glows under xrays? 2016-05-19T11:38:32 < ReadError> if i expose film i have no way to develop it ;/ 2016-05-19T11:38:46 < PeterM> yes tit glows unde xrtay 2016-05-19T11:38:51 < PeterM> did oyu not read what i said 2016-05-19T11:39:06 < ReadError> i did it was just worded kinda confusing 2016-05-19T11:39:10 < PeterM> okj 2016-05-19T11:39:12 < ReadError> ohhhh 2016-05-19T11:39:13 < ReadError> the link 2016-05-19T11:39:16 < ReadError> i missed that, 1sec 2016-05-19T11:39:41 < PeterM> xray emitter -> thing you want to xray -> screen that glows > mirror >camera 2016-05-19T11:40:10 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/JPI-X-Ray-Film-Cassette-14x17-/191783692277?hash=item2ca732e7f5:g:AS4AAOSwqrtWmT~V <--- thing that glows I take it 2016-05-19T11:40:28 < ReadError> guess im confused about the mirror and camera part 2016-05-19T11:41:23 < PeterM> ok 2016-05-19T11:41:29 < zyp> daey, that's why I filled it in for you 2016-05-19T11:41:55 < PeterM> well if you put a cmos camera in the path of your xray all you're gonna take a picture of is bright flashes of shti as the xrays hit the sensor 2016-05-19T11:42:04 < zyp> ohsix, don't know what you're talking about 2016-05-19T11:42:11 < PeterM> so you put a mirror to reflect the visible lgiht out of the xray beam 2016-05-19T11:42:45 < ReadError> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-X-Ray/step23/Anode-Current/ 2016-05-19T11:42:48 < ReadError> this makes sense 2016-05-19T11:42:54 < ReadError> im a visual kinda guy 2016-05-19T11:44:09 < PeterM> yeah thats what i was trying to show 2016-05-19T11:44:45 < PeterM> does that seem liek a viable thing to use to test your xray machine? 2016-05-19T11:45:53 < ReadError> http://c4r0.elektroda.eu/_hv/xrays/x_foto048_big.jpg 2016-05-19T11:46:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T11:47:24 < zyp> ohsix, heh, that's cheap 2016-05-19T11:48:35 < daey> zyp: i know. but the point is, it works without the addition, which i dont understand 2016-05-19T11:48:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T11:48:40 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T11:55:29 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T11:55:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T12:05:20 < mitrax> do you guys know of a company that sells advanced GSM / UMTS / LTE jammers for theaters and such? (not the cheapo portable kind with 10 meters range) 2016-05-19T12:06:58 < PeterM> ReadError, i guess that works, but not if you want your camera to be usable for long 2016-05-19T12:08:33 -!- tkoskine_ is now known as tkoskine 2016-05-19T12:09:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-19T12:09:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T12:10:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-19T12:11:41 < daey> after checking the whole makefile there arent any links to libraries either 2016-05-19T12:11:58 < daey> so where the heck is the function definition for PUT32 and GET32 2016-05-19T12:12:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-19T12:12:19 < daey> ohsix: no 2016-05-19T12:12:24 < daey> its pure standalone 2016-05-19T12:13:19 < mitrax> ohsix: no no guys i know from the local univ need one for exam rooms 2016-05-19T12:13:45 < ReadError> PeterM so you put the mirror where the camera was 2016-05-19T12:13:50 < ReadError> and take a pic at an angle 2016-05-19T12:13:53 < ReadError> ? 2016-05-19T12:15:12 < jpa-> daey: grep -r? 2016-05-19T12:15:12 < ReadError> ohsix well imma do it outside obviously 2016-05-19T12:15:17 < ReadError> gotta stay safe 2016-05-19T12:15:21 < jpa-> daey: sounds like macros 2016-05-19T12:15:37 < ReadError> daey did you add the define yet for the MCU ? 2016-05-19T12:17:59 < ReadError> ohsix distance? 2016-05-19T12:21:24 < daey> https://github.com/dwelch67/stm32_samples/tree/master/NUCLEO-F411RE/blinker01 2016-05-19T12:21:30 < daey> thats the project im looking at 2016-05-19T12:22:23 < jpa-> it's right there in flash.s 2016-05-19T12:22:37 < jpa-> though why would anyone do it that way.. 2016-05-19T12:23:19 < ReadError> i tried to help him yesterday 2016-05-19T12:23:28 < ReadError> he didnt have a define for his stm32f411 2016-05-19T12:23:45 < ReadError> and I guess still hasnt listend 2016-05-19T12:29:53 < ReadError> huh 2016-05-19T12:29:57 < ReadError> periscopes? 2016-05-19T12:36:08 < ReadError> whats the point in that 2016-05-19T12:36:44 < PeterM> ReadError, yes mirror where teh camera is and camera off to the side 2016-05-19T12:36:55 < ReadError> PeterM got it, makes senese 2016-05-19T12:36:58 < ReadError> sense* 2016-05-19T12:37:09 < ReadError> doesnt dongs xray shit inside? 2016-05-19T12:37:50 < PeterM> what do you mean? 2016-05-19T12:37:59 < PeterM> most people xray shit inside 2016-05-19T12:38:02 < ReadError> he said something about a chair 2016-05-19T12:38:50 < ReadError> well i need to find a good snag on a USB sensor 2016-05-19T12:38:54 < ReadError> will wait for that 2016-05-19T12:39:26 < ReadError> if the ray blaster works its a pretty solid deal 2016-05-19T12:39:30 < ReadError> whys that ohsix 2016-05-19T12:39:45 < PeterM> i didnt suggest the film as a permanent solution rather as something you could use to test your emitter and fuck aroudn with in hte meantime 2016-05-19T12:39:54 < ReadError> ya that will let me fuck around with it 2016-05-19T12:39:59 < ReadError> thats what i wanted 2016-05-19T12:40:21 < ReadError> cameras exist now? 2016-05-19T12:40:25 < ReadError> xray cameras? 2016-05-19T12:41:16 < ReadError> yea but I imagine the resolution is lacking 2016-05-19T12:41:26 < ReadError> if you are doing inspection or something 2016-05-19T12:41:30 < PeterM> is 06 donkey sandwiching? 2016-05-19T12:41:37 < PeterM> err assburgering 2016-05-19T12:41:49 < ReadError> PeterM hes talking, you have him on ignore too? 2016-05-19T12:41:56 < dongs> anyone sane does 2016-05-19T12:42:03 < PeterM> probably before dingle did 2016-05-19T12:42:12 < PeterM> dongs even 2016-05-19T12:42:20 < ReadError> dongs whats your xray rig like? 2016-05-19T12:42:33 < ReadError> just setup and run away before you turn it on? 2016-05-19T12:42:57 < dongs> no lol just hold shit by hands and press button 2016-05-19T12:43:16 < dongs> i really need to 3d dick a holder for the sensor + junk on top of it 2016-05-19T12:43:34 < ReadError> haha 2016-05-19T12:43:43 < dongs> i cant just lay it flat on something because it has that fucking bump for cable on the back 2016-05-19T12:44:05 < ReadError> none that are charged and on 2016-05-19T12:44:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T12:44:33 < PeterM> exposure from a dental xray machine is pretty low, but i wouldnt want it daily 2016-05-19T12:44:33 < ReadError> imma holla at hawaii taco 2016-05-19T12:44:40 < ReadError> see if he has some old sensors 2016-05-19T12:44:43 < dongs> http://www.carestreamdental.com/ImagesFileShare/.sitecore.media_library.Images.RVG_Imaging.6100.Images.Features.Unparalleled_Usability.JPG 2016-05-19T12:45:00 < dongs> need a shit holder for it 2016-05-19T12:45:02 < ReadError> ya was looking at those, kodak carestream 6100 2016-05-19T12:45:05 < ReadError> pricey 2016-05-19T12:45:16 < ReadError> but ill just lurk until something good comes up 2016-05-19T12:46:32 < ReadError> 63kVp enough power dongs ? 2016-05-19T12:46:40 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-19T12:46:43 < ReadError> or whats yours 2016-05-19T12:47:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T12:48:52 -!- scrts_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T12:48:55 < dongs> duno it has a panelmeter thingy but im to lazy ot go look, innovating somethin atm 2016-05-19T12:49:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-19T12:58:34 < ReadError> hmm actually 2016-05-19T12:58:45 < ReadError> i wonder how much detail I could get with my nice macro lense 2016-05-19T12:59:06 < ReadError> thing takes pretty nice shots 2016-05-19T12:59:21 < PeterM> from the xray thing? 2016-05-19T12:59:27 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-19T12:59:29 < ReadError> and mirror 2016-05-19T12:59:32 < PeterM> not very much 2016-05-19T12:59:46 < ReadError> it disperses too much after the cassette ? 2016-05-19T12:59:58 < PeterM> beam collimation and the radiance of the phosphor 2016-05-19T13:00:19 < PeterM> effect the minimum spot size 2016-05-19T13:00:44 < ReadError> ahh, yea ill keep my ear to the ground on the sensor, sound best longterm 2016-05-19T13:02:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T13:02:43 < ReadError> http://www.solder.net/images/services/x-ray/pcb-x-ray-inspection/Xray-plated-throughhole-opt.jpg pretty neat 2016-05-19T13:02:50 < ReadError> I like the angle shots 2016-05-19T13:03:25 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T13:11:28 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-19T13:28:49 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-19T13:29:32 < Ecco> Hey :) 2016-05-19T13:29:51 < Ecco> Nice picture 2016-05-19T13:30:12 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T13:30:51 < Ecco> I'd like to control a LED from an STM32 2016-05-19T13:31:00 < Ecco> it's a rather powerful one, it draws 80 mA 2016-05-19T13:31:08 < Ecco> So correct me if I'm wrong, but I need a transistor 2016-05-19T13:31:16 < Ecco> Now, how do I know which one to pick? 2016-05-19T13:32:02 < jpa-> bsh105 2016-05-19T13:34:57 < qyx> bss123 2016-05-19T13:35:25 < qyx> jpa-'s is better 2016-05-19T13:36:13 < PeterM> qyxs one is cheaper 2016-05-19T13:37:06 < PeterM> and if you're buying from china, ao3400 is both cheaper and better 2016-05-19T13:38:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T13:40:42 < karlp> PeterM: you're not using bss138 and si2304 anymore? 2016-05-19T13:40:49 < karlp> sory, sia418 2016-05-19T13:42:11 < qyx> jpa-: is it possible to get byte array length in nanopb? 2016-05-19T13:42:43 < PeterM> bss138 is in a different league\ 2016-05-19T13:43:12 < karlp> just liked that short summary above, was looking at existing fet chatz 2016-05-19T13:43:14 < PeterM> bss138 is very VERY fast and VERY VERYchepa and 50v rated 2016-05-19T13:43:29 < karlp> wow, yeah, ao3400 looks rad. 2016-05-19T13:43:38 < PeterM> so good for anal log high speed stuff 2016-05-19T13:43:55 < PeterM> but AO3400 is good for cheap, respectabel voltage/current and speed 2016-05-19T13:44:34 < PeterM> karlp AO3407 is the complementary Pchan version, its equally as neato 2016-05-19T13:52:40 < qyx> jpa-: nevermind, .size, .bytes 2016-05-19T13:54:36 < jpa-> qyx: yep.. byte arrays would be pretty useless without separate size field :) 2016-05-19T13:57:40 < Ecco> So regarding those transistors 2016-05-19T13:57:46 < Ecco> the package will always be SOT23? 2016-05-19T13:57:55 < Ecco> So I can just use one and change easily later on, right? 2016-05-19T13:58:21 < PeterM> yes 2016-05-19T13:58:29 < Ecco> great 2016-05-19T13:58:36 < kha> Ecco: altough the order of the pins tends to differ between transistors 2016-05-19T13:58:44 < Ecco> crap :) 2016-05-19T13:58:51 < Ecco> Now I have a bunch of questions 2016-05-19T13:58:54 < Ecco> First, the symbol 2016-05-19T13:59:02 < PeterM> gds is pretty common :P 2016-05-19T13:59:08 < PeterM> 123GDS 2016-05-19T13:59:15 < kha> yeah it is just a thing to keep in mind 2016-05-19T13:59:23 < Ecco> I thought it was kinda like this 2016-05-19T13:59:24 < Ecco> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Transistor.symbol.npn.svg/2000px-Transistor.symbol.npn.svg.png 2016-05-19T13:59:35 < kha> well bss138 is a FET 2016-05-19T13:59:46 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T13:59:56 < Ecco> And the datasheet mentions stuff like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/zNkIw.png 2016-05-19T13:59:57 < PeterM> thats the symbol for a BJ tee 2016-05-19T14:00:10 < PeterM> and hte second is a sumbol for a Nchan 2016-05-19T14:00:22 < jpa-> when in doubt, use a fet 2016-05-19T14:00:43 < kha> well in some cases it is better to use a BJT as they are more rebust 2016-05-19T14:00:54 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-19T14:01:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T14:01:16 < PeterM> but when i ndoubt, use a fet 2016-05-19T14:03:36 -!- aawa [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T14:09:15 < qyx> in each case, sot23 footprints are "equal" for both bjt and fet, you can use either one (don't forget the base/gate resistor) 2016-05-19T14:09:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T14:20:50 < daey> ohsix: was afk for a while. i took the whole git project, compiling flashing etc. it all works. im jsut trying to understand how the program knows about a function definition that i cant even find 2016-05-19T14:21:18 < daey> taking a look at the flash.s* 2016-05-19T14:22:10 < daey> i see. i had no idea one can define functions in asm and link declarations in c to them 2016-05-19T14:26:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T14:34:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T14:39:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-19T15:03:30 -!- jadew [~razvan@86.124.193.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-19T15:06:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T15:14:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-236.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T15:26:18 < daey> http://lpaste.net/163847 trying to understand this c to asm link. is r0 r1 always used for a function argument? 2016-05-19T15:29:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T15:30:55 < karlp> this is what the arm eabi means... 2016-05-19T15:31:09 < karlp> also, what project are you using that is doing this, and why? 2016-05-19T15:33:49 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T15:33:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T15:36:03 < dongs> fuck someone is hacking my linked in 2016-05-19T15:36:09 < dongs> they've noticed a POTENTIAL RISK 2016-05-19T15:39:20 < Laurenceb_> epic 2016-05-19T15:40:15 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBqBQzyYGCM&feature=youtu.be 2016-05-19T15:46:38 < daey> karlp: its a tiny example project to toggle a pin 2016-05-19T15:47:03 < karlp> that needs asm? ur doin it wrong 2016-05-19T15:47:11 < daey> karlp: https://github.com/dwelch67/stm32_samples/tree/master/NUCLEO-F411RE/blinker01 2016-05-19T15:47:17 < daey> karlp: its an example 2016-05-19T15:47:23 < daey> not a THATS HOW ITS DONE! 2016-05-19T15:48:05 < karlp> that is a bizzare example 2016-05-19T15:48:11 < daey> karlp: aside from that, everoyne seems to use a startup.s 2016-05-19T15:48:28 < daey> i like it, as its extremely short 2016-05-19T15:48:53 < karlp> libopencm3 does startup in c. 2016-05-19T15:49:06 < karlp> and you don't need asm functions to set bits. 2016-05-19T15:49:27 < daey> im not trying to build something atm. im trying to understand whats going on 2016-05-19T15:49:52 < daey> interfacing with libopencm3 feels like pluging a PC in. it works, but ive no idea what is going on 2016-05-19T15:49:56 < karlp> those GET32/PUT32 functions are abominations 2016-05-19T15:50:00 < daey> :D 2016-05-19T15:50:10 < daey> but they work :p 2016-05-19T15:50:11 < karlp> you just need to use proper pointer casts 2016-05-19T15:50:20 < karlp> they're fucking hideos and vile, and wildly unnecessary 2016-05-19T15:50:54 < daey> so you would replace them with *(char*(ADDRESS) = DATA 2016-05-19T15:50:58 < daey> ) 2016-05-19T15:51:08 < karlp> libopencm3 at least shows that you can do startup in C, as ARM advertises, rather than blindly doing it in asm like the old days. 2016-05-19T15:51:18 < karlp> not char, if you want 32bits.... 2016-05-19T15:51:22 < daey> yeah 2016-05-19T15:51:37 < daey> but ive seen these RRH RRL registers 2016-05-19T15:51:40 < karlp> https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3-examples/blob/master/examples/stm32/f4/stm32f4-discovery/miniblink/miniblink.c has the "manual" ways in comments too. 2016-05-19T15:51:49 < daey> which apear to be higher 16 lower 16bits 2016-05-19T15:51:54 < Laurenceb_> https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/05/19/0347228/pornhubs-bangfit-program-uses-sexy-exercise-to-build-muscle 2016-05-19T15:51:57 < Laurenceb_> news for nerds 2016-05-19T15:51:57 < daey> well in that case i should probably use int 2016-05-19T15:52:03 < daey> short* 2016-05-19T15:52:20 < karlp> https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/include/libopencm3/cm3/common.h#L49-L53 is the common way of doign it... 2016-05-19T15:57:50 < karlp> seriously, if you're using special asm functions to write to a register, you're DOING IT WRONG, and you should not be looking at that project for any sort of inspiration. 2016-05-19T15:58:17 < karlp> it might be a valid example of how to do asm functions, but..... I'd still say it's a bad idea to even get used to that sort of idea 2016-05-19T15:59:38 < karlp> for(rx=0;;rx++) is a pretty stellar example of "nope, I don't see any reason to write code that makes sense for anyone else" either. 2016-05-19T16:00:20 < karlp> while(1)/for(;;) are both perfectly reasonable, but incrementing an unused variable? 2016-05-19T16:04:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T16:17:52 -!- asaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T16:23:03 < asaa> since dma is fast, should one enable dma whenever possible? why use interrupt for uart communication when dma is much faster? 2016-05-19T16:23:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T16:27:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-19T16:28:46 < Laurenceb_> why indeed 2016-05-19T16:29:49 < daey> karlp: yeah that loop is hilarious :D 2016-05-19T16:36:20 < jpa-> asaa: because sometimes speed is not so important and interrupts are sometimes easier to work with 2016-05-19T16:36:33 < jpa-> e.g. if you need to execute some action after each character received 2016-05-19T16:37:43 < asaa> jpa-: if the app involves receiving data, then process it, then transmit on uart, would interrupt or DMA be more suitable? 2016-05-19T16:38:28 < jpa-> depends on a lot of things, but usually DMA 2016-05-19T16:38:33 < asaa> DMA involves longer start/stop. Are there occasions when DMA is actually slower than using interrupts? 2016-05-19T16:38:58 < jpa-> not really, and you should probably keep it running all the time 2016-05-19T16:39:23 < jpa-> (well, rx dma, that is) 2016-05-19T16:40:06 < asaa> so, dma will always be faster. the downside is that it is harder to implement? 2016-05-19T16:50:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T16:53:29 < jpa-> pretty much 2016-05-19T16:57:02 -!- k\o\w [~kow@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T17:00:26 < dongs> whats latest soliddongs? 2016 sp3? 2016-05-19T17:03:49 < Laurenceb_> I use FreeCAD 2016-05-19T17:05:48 < dongs> http://files.solidworks.com/Supportfiles/Release_Notes/2016/English/relnotes.htm 2016-05-19T17:05:49 < dongs> haha 2016-05-19T17:05:54 < dongs> All SOLIDWORKS 2016 products will not install on Windows 8.0. You must upgrade from Windows 8.0 to Windows 8.1. For current supported operating systems, see System Requirements. 2016-05-19T17:05:58 < dongs> way to go 2016-05-19T17:06:38 < zyp> you're running 8.0? 2016-05-19T17:06:44 < dongs> haha no, 10 2016-05-19T17:06:51 < dongs> i mean, finally, a large company says fuck you 2016-05-19T17:06:56 < dongs> to all those people who "hate" new OS 2016-05-19T17:35:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T17:43:13 < Shavik> Looking at the VCAP1 Pin on the STM32F401RE (no VCAP2) and per the datasheet it states 4.7uF cap with an ESR of > 1ohm. The cap I'm looking at doesn't specifically state a ESR but does have a chart with frequencies listed. Would the frequency be that of my main clock or am I way off? 2016-05-19T17:43:39 < jpa-> umm, it is "ESR of < 1 ohm", i think 2016-05-19T17:43:48 < Shavik> Yea sorry. typo 2016-05-19T17:43:49 < jpa-> and if it is a ceramic cap, it will meet that 2016-05-19T17:43:57 < Shavik> Yea mine is. Ok thanks :) 2016-05-19T17:44:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-19T17:45:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-19T17:50:23 < dongs> fuuuuuck bourns site is retarded 2016-05-19T17:53:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.228] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T18:03:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-19T18:04:09 < Laurenceb_> holy shit internet dramaz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbA7DkyRQ-Q 2016-05-19T18:04:58 < Laurenceb_> I like how there is a huge list of random troll handles like everyone knows who they are 2016-05-19T18:05:30 < Laurenceb_> plot twist: its all one basement dwelling troll 2016-05-19T18:07:18 < dongs> lol 2016-05-19T18:08:32 < Laurenceb_> e-celebs are more cancerous than normal celebs 2016-05-19T18:10:35 < Laurenceb_> emdrive mark 1 2016-05-19T18:10:36 < Laurenceb_> https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/05/19/1417257/theranos-withdraws-two-years-of-blood-test-results 2016-05-19T18:12:35 < Laurenceb_> https://slashdot.org/~nimbius is dat some markov chain 2016-05-19T18:12:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T18:28:54 < Sync> could be Laurenceb_ 2016-05-19T18:31:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-236.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T18:36:39 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/KJ2pa40.jpg 2016-05-19T18:38:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-19T18:38:31 -!- asaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-19T18:39:10 < Laurenceb_> hello mr Poe 2016-05-19T18:39:28 < Laurenceb_> maybe there is a different Poe for stupidity 2016-05-19T18:40:19 < dongs> 10 channels of analog junk to sample: 4:16 analog mux or just connect directly to ADC 2016-05-19T18:42:16 < Laurenceb_> if its stm32 isnt that obvious 2016-05-19T18:42:30 < Laurenceb_> should be enough channels on stm32 2016-05-19T18:43:07 < dongs> it is stm32 but i dont wanna route a bunch of shit 2016-05-19T18:43:33 < dongs> but hm 2016-05-19T18:43:39 < dongs> the benefit of DMA + scan mode 2016-05-19T18:43:39 < Laurenceb_> oh noes 10 airwires 2016-05-19T18:43:44 < Laurenceb_> how will I cope 2016-05-19T18:43:55 < Laurenceb_> yeah stm32 adc is epic win 2016-05-19T18:44:42 < Laurenceb_> also has ENOB ~ number of bits 2016-05-19T18:44:55 < dongs> well, i'd still be using ADC 2016-05-19T18:44:59 < dongs> just one cahnel 2016-05-19T18:45:06 < dongs> 5 wires insead of 10 hmm 2016-05-19T18:45:10 < dongs> not much saving i guess 2016-05-19T18:46:21 < Laurenceb_> I need to add analogue mux to me aids1298 :( 2016-05-19T18:46:27 < Laurenceb_> cuz it's mux sucks 2016-05-19T18:49:16 < bilboquet> Yeah :) ! I can finally doing Arduino http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/about/media-center/press-item.html/t3829.html 2016-05-19T18:49:39 < dongs> fucjk 2016-05-19T18:49:45 < bilboquet> :) 2016-05-19T18:49:59 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-19T18:50:59 < Laurenceb_> did someone say tarduino 2016-05-19T18:52:00 < Laurenceb_> http://www.amerika.org/wp-content/uploads/triggered.png 2016-05-19T18:55:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T19:04:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-19T19:10:56 < dongs> any idea how to make an altidong part with a hole in it 2016-05-19T19:11:01 < dongs> so it doesnt trigger 2016-05-19T19:18:31 < dongs> nice 2016-05-19T19:18:36 < dongs> put a 3d model with hole on it 2016-05-19T19:18:37 < dongs> worked. 2016-05-19T19:27:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T19:28:30 < aandrew> it absolutely blows me away that the arduino form factor is the one that "took" 2016-05-19T19:29:02 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T19:29:35 < BrainDamage> marketing doesn't give a shit about technical reasons 2016-05-19T19:32:54 < dongs> aandrew: with offset 2.54 headers too 2016-05-19T19:32:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T19:33:03 < dongs> because some eagle fucktard was too dumb 2016-05-19T19:33:47 < aandrew> nothing wrong the 0.100 for hobby, but there is that one connector that is offset by a cunt hair off of 0.100" 2016-05-19T19:33:56 < dongs> thats what imeant 2016-05-19T19:34:05 < dongs> that the 2 rows are split by non-2.54 2016-05-19T19:35:52 < karlp> heh, arduino's totally going to make use of MIPI-DSI 2016-05-19T19:37:53 < karlp> sounds like someone at arduino had a falling out with microchip I guess. 2016-05-19T19:37:59 < dongs> lool 2016-05-19T19:38:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:49ab:2b3c:c3be:b86e] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T19:41:15 < karlp> http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-star-otto has the "specs" including 8MB of ram and 12MB of instructions for the onboard esp8266.... 2016-05-19T19:41:27 < dongs> which one is the legit one 2016-05-19T19:41:28 < dongs> .org or .com 2016-05-19T19:41:30 < Laurenceb_> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1463664948370-2.gif 2016-05-19T19:42:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T19:43:09 < karlp> "legit" is a matter of perspective anwyay right? 2016-05-19T19:43:18 < karlp> one of them is the italian portion, one of htem is the american portion? 2016-05-19T19:43:29 < karlp> no pricing anyway 2016-05-19T19:43:49 < Laurenceb_> haha the tarduino fallout 2016-05-19T19:49:22 < dongs> .org is italy looks like 2016-05-19T19:49:30 < dongs> http://arduino.com/ 2016-05-19T19:49:31 < dongs> wat 2016-05-19T19:56:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-19T20:04:24 < Laurenceb_> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1463668176264-0.webm 2016-05-19T20:04:42 < Laurenceb_> a cunning plan 2016-05-19T20:11:34 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T20:13:17 < dongs> omg t-o-c in altidong is leeet 2016-05-19T20:13:24 < dongs> after selecting s ome bypass caps 2016-05-19T20:19:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T20:23:05 < ReadError> lol wth 2016-05-19T20:23:18 < ReadError> so they have arduino code running on the f4? 2016-05-19T20:27:43 < ReadError> http://www.arduino.org/media/k2/galleries/1149/A000135-Arduino-Star-Otto-1front.jpg 2016-05-19T20:27:48 < ReadError> love the crooked DC jack 2016-05-19T20:29:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T20:29:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-19T20:31:02 < jpa-> those dc jacks are just crap design, always end up crooked 2016-05-19T20:31:40 < dongs> hand-soldered in italy 2016-05-19T20:31:51 < dongs> wait waht teh actual fuck 2016-05-19T20:31:58 < dongs> they fabbed those offset dip sockets? 2016-05-19T20:32:01 < dongs> as a single piece ofe plastic? 2016-05-19T20:32:25 < dongs> i wonder how much cock was sucked for that 2016-05-19T20:34:09 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4lXthHJUw4 is this how you speak Laurenceb_ 2016-05-19T20:35:04 < karlp> dongs: theyve been getting things like that done for a while now, they've started printing labels on teh side of the pin sockets too. 2016-05-19T20:35:12 < karlp> kinda sexy, ifyou've got that much volume 2016-05-19T20:35:13 < Laurenceb_> ITCUNMOOOVVV 2016-05-19T20:35:25 < Laurenceb_> DISCARRR 2016-05-19T20:35:54 < dongs> karlp: ah okay. obviously i dont keep track of these kinda things. 2016-05-19T20:36:24 < Laurenceb_> PROPA BRUV 2016-05-19T20:37:03 < Laurenceb_> how do i handbrake 2016-05-19T20:40:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T20:43:06 < karlp> hrm, thought these were single piece too, but they're nto, you can see the silk o the sockets though: http://www.arduino.org/media/k2/galleries/1148/A000111-Arduino-Primo-3tri.jpg 2016-05-19T20:43:25 < dongs> ah 2016-05-19T20:52:24 < dongs> they have all tehse fuckign models of that shit 2016-05-19T20:52:27 < dongs> does anyone actualyl use htrem 2016-05-19T20:52:30 < dongs> the fuck is arduino primo? 2016-05-19T20:52:54 < dongs> https://store.arduino.cc/product/AH00003 2016-05-19T20:52:56 < dongs> "primo" 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##stm32 2016-05-19T22:14:09 < Steffanx> aandrew, i guess it's more like AVR -> stm32 2016-05-19T22:14:16 < Steffanx> AVR -> atmel -> microchip. 2016-05-19T22:20:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhy1RviiSAI 2016-05-19T22:22:28 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-19T22:23:30 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T22:43:07 < Steffanx> no clue what you ar talking about ohsix :P 2016-05-19T22:43:47 < Steffanx> ok a small clue, but.. 2016-05-19T22:45:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-19T22:46:38 < Steffanx> lol that price. 2016-05-19T22:46:54 < Steffanx> Does not ship to Netherlands fuck them. 2016-05-19T22:46:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-19T22:47:47 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-19T22:48:18 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2016-05-19T23:00:57 < jadew> upgrdman, the box had the seal on ;) 2016-05-19T23:01:00 < jadew> that's what I thought 2016-05-19T23:01:04 < jadew> or it could have been a demo unit 2016-05-19T23:01:12 < jadew> then I showed her the dust around the vent holes 2016-05-19T23:01:16 < jadew> and she lost it 2016-05-19T23:01:31 < jadew> she brought me a couple more to show me how all of them have it, like that proved her point somehow 2016-05-19T23:01:56 < jadew> I believe she's buying manufacturer refurbished items and selling them as new 2016-05-19T23:01:57 < upgrdman> hmmm kinda just looks like rough handling at the factory to me 2016-05-19T23:02:17 < jadew> upgrdman, you're looking in the wrong place: http://dumb.ro/files/vitamix/tamper_inspection_microscope.jpg 2016-05-19T23:02:23 < jadew> check at the last ring 2016-05-19T23:02:38 < jadew> where it enters in contact with the can 2016-05-19T23:02:47 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:02:50 < jadew> that's normal wear after regular usage 2016-05-19T23:02:53 < upgrdman> oh hmm yah thats fucked :) 2016-05-19T23:02:53 < jadew> (for a long time) 2016-05-19T23:03:04 < Laurenceb_> worldstar 2016-05-19T23:03:22 < jadew> ohsix, heh 2016-05-19T23:03:54 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/vitamix/bottom_vent_holes.jpg 2016-05-19T23:04:06 < upgrdman> so wuts a vaginamixxx blender? some high end thing? 2016-05-19T23:04:10 < jadew> she said that's where dust settles... and that's why there's dust there 2016-05-19T23:04:16 < jadew> I was like "while in the box?" 2016-05-19T23:04:18 < upgrdman> like a ninja or whatever 2016-05-19T23:04:24 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.30] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-19T23:04:25 < jadew> upgrdman, yeah, they're high end 2016-05-19T23:04:29 < jadew> it was 1k 2016-05-19T23:04:31 < jadew> usd 2016-05-19T23:04:33 < upgrdman> wtf 2016-05-19T23:04:37 < zyp> haha, wat 2016-05-19T23:04:44 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/vitamix/vent_holes.jpg 2016-05-19T23:04:46 < upgrdman> i think my blender was $30 2016-05-19T23:05:04 < zyp> wtf makes a blender worth $1k? 2016-05-19T23:05:15 < jadew> zyp, I don't know... 2016-05-19T23:05:17 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:05:18 < jadew> my wife wants it 2016-05-19T23:05:25 < jadew> it's her birthday, I went for it 2016-05-19T23:05:32 < upgrdman> maybe its hand-crafted by artistan factory workers in china 2016-05-19T23:05:57 < jadew> yeah, maybe they do QC by inserting that tamper up their asses until it gets those wear marks 2016-05-19T23:06:01 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:06:02 < upgrdman> slave away over hot injection mold systems 2016-05-19T23:06:22 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-19T23:07:34 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:07:36 < Laurenceb_> worldstar 2016-05-19T23:07:44 < jadew> ohsix, already wrote to them 2016-05-19T23:07:48 < upgrdman> you should tweet it 2016-05-19T23:07:52 < upgrdman> to the store and the manuf 2016-05-19T23:08:05 < upgrdman> let them fight it out in public :) 2016-05-19T23:08:06 < jadew> upgrdman, good idea, but I don't have twitter 2016-05-19T23:08:15 < jadew> yeah, that's a great idea 2016-05-19T23:08:22 < upgrdman> that way one cant blame the out and just leave it at that 2016-05-19T23:08:40 < upgrdman> s/out/other 2016-05-19T23:09:34 < jadew> I don't even know what made me look closer tho, it didn't look used, but didn't look new either 2016-05-19T23:09:54 < jadew> there was something about it 2016-05-19T23:10:09 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:10:26 < jadew> it looks good, but they probably didn't notice the tamper wear and didn't remove the dust 2016-05-19T23:10:45 < jadew> she was like "look at the container, is this not new" 2016-05-19T23:11:01 < jadew> "of course it's new, that's how reconditioning works" 2016-05-19T23:11:17 < jadew> "you dumb bitch", I wanted to add 2016-05-19T23:11:32 < upgrdman> so i know this sounds dumb, but is there any solder specifically made to form solder bridges. so you can easily makes lines on perf board, etc. 2016-05-19T23:11:40 < jadew> heh, nah, the box was sealed 2016-05-19T23:11:52 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:11:57 < daey> either im unable to solve captchas or linkedin has an endless loop of captcha quests that you must solve lol 2016-05-19T23:12:09 < daey> or they punish fake email addresses with endless loops 2016-05-19T23:12:19 < jadew> upgrdman, I doubt there's one specifically for this but I'm sure some have more addherence than others 2016-05-19T23:12:38 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-19T23:12:47 < daey> those fuckers 2016-05-19T23:12:57 < daey> they really trigger it on the email 2016-05-19T23:13:02 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:19:41 < jadew> upgrdman, btw, don't use flux :) 2016-05-19T23:20:29 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-19T23:21:08 < Ultrasauce> upgrdman for perfboard buses i just use a single strand of copper wire to allow the solder to flow in a line nicely 2016-05-19T23:21:20 < Ultrasauce> it's a bad idea in general though i think because the solder is relatively brittle 2016-05-19T23:22:27 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-19T23:22:48 < upgrdman> i guess i'll just lay out my own perf board with those square PTH pads that i never see to find anymore 2016-05-19T23:22:59 < upgrdman> the old radioshack perfboard has those square pads 2016-05-19T23:23:03 < upgrdman> now i never see it 2016-05-19T23:23:17 < Ultrasauce> you could also use the subtractive approach with veroboard/stripboard and a knife 2016-05-19T23:23:26 < upgrdman> too lazy to cut 2016-05-19T23:23:33 < upgrdman> but i already have an iron in my hand 2016-05-19T23:23:34 < upgrdman> :) 2016-05-19T23:23:49 < upgrdman> also, being able to do Z traces, etc 2016-05-19T23:24:04 < BrainDamage> try to get an eutectic mixture, so it'll remain more uniform and should be easier to spread 2016-05-19T23:24:08 < Ultrasauce> yeah in that case i think the solution is definitely wires 2016-05-19T23:24:14 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-19T23:24:40 < BrainDamage> i have a roll of wire with super thin insulation 2016-05-19T23:24:49 < upgrdman> kynar? 2016-05-19T23:24:56 < BrainDamage> no, it's not enameled 2016-05-19T23:25:00 < upgrdman> i like kynar wire for this shit, but im still too lazy 2016-05-19T23:25:00 < BrainDamage> it's plastic 2016-05-19T23:25:05 < upgrdman> kynar isnt enameled 2016-05-19T23:25:12 < BrainDamage> oh, then i'm confusing 2016-05-19T23:25:19 < BrainDamage> sec 2016-05-19T23:25:42 < daey> its just a pte coating 2016-05-19T23:25:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] 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Polyurethane Enamel ... 2016-05-19T23:29:29 < jadew> since we were speaking about Vitamix, they used to have an issue with teflon insulation chipping off and ending up in your drink 2016-05-19T23:29:38 < daey> kinda had ptfe in my head for some reason 2016-05-19T23:30:08 < BrainDamage> Polyvinylidene fluoride 2016-05-19T23:30:23 < upgrdman> speaking of insulation types 2016-05-19T23:30:33 < upgrdman> i got some of that Molex TempFlex ribbon cable 2016-05-19T23:30:40 < upgrdman> its supposed to be super super flexible 2016-05-19T23:30:53 < upgrdman> its not :/ but it feels super high equality 2016-05-19T23:31:03 < Sync> yeah I got some as well 2016-05-19T23:31:04 < Sync> I was confused 2016-05-19T23:31:18 < upgrdman> FEP insulation iirc 2016-05-19T23:31:35 < upgrdman> fluorinated ethelyn propylene or someshit 2016-05-19T23:31:58 < upgrdman> feels like you could step on it, drag it, etc, and it would tolerate lots of abuse 2016-05-19T23:31:59 < daey> upgrdman: i assumed you were talking about this magical stuff http://elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html 2016-05-19T23:32:28 < upgrdman> daey, hmm that looks like magnet wire 2016-05-19T23:32:36 < upgrdman> which i use a lot of too 2016-05-19T23:32:38 < upgrdman> but no 2016-05-19T23:32:42 < daey> magnet wire doesnt work 2016-05-19T23:32:51 < daey> coating is to temp resistant 2016-05-19T23:33:07 < upgrdman> kynar wire is like magnet wire, but it wets with solder very easily and has thicker, plastic, insulation 2016-05-19T23:33:08 < jadew> there are some that are specifically made to be decoated with the iron 2016-05-19T23:33:13 < jadew> but I haven't found them 2016-05-19T23:33:29 < jadew> the cheap wire used in old chinese radios had that property 2016-05-19T23:33:31 < upgrdman> i think kynar is "tinned" with silver 2016-05-19T23:33:35 < upgrdman> or something like that 2016-05-19T23:33:37 < jadew> I remember I was able to do that as a kid 2016-05-19T23:58:59 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Fri May 20 2016 2016-05-20T00:04:58 < jadew> ohsix, that best of the worst episode is great 2016-05-20T00:12:16 < Laurenceb_> daey: wut 2016-05-20T00:12:27 < Laurenceb_> just stick the end of magnet wire in molten solder 2016-05-20T00:13:32 < PeterM> ya, just clip a tiny bit off the end of the magnet wire so you have some nice fresh exposed copper and then stick it in the molten solder, it will wick up under it and burn it off 2016-05-20T00:14:01 < daey> Laurenceb_: i have that stuff here, multiple versions. even with 450C that shit doesnt burn off 2016-05-20T00:14:24 < kakimir> jesus n900... too lunix but at least I got irc 2016-05-20T00:14:27 < Laurenceb_> wow thats some nice magnet wire you got :P 2016-05-20T00:15:02 < PeterM> daey, where did you get it? sometimes aluminium cored magnet wire exists jsut to fuck with people 2016-05-20T00:15:03 < daey> theres a review on the elmchan site. he pretty much came to the same conclusion. you need a specific type otherwise its a pain to work with it. The best solution for magnet wire is a lighter 2016-05-20T00:15:07 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.30] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T00:15:12 < PeterM> no 2016-05-20T00:15:17 < PeterM> a lighter is rubbish 2016-05-20T00:15:36 < daey> well a hot iron isnt hot enough 2016-05-20T00:15:44 < kakimir> how to change window in irssi without alt? 2016-05-20T00:15:57 < daey> kakimir: ctrl+n 2016-05-20T00:16:02 < PeterM> http://www.insulatedtools.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/n/end_wire_strippers.jpg thghhese work VERY well 2016-05-20T00:16:03 < daey> kakimir: ctrl+p 2016-05-20T00:16:06 < PeterM> davey 2016-05-20T00:16:11 < PeterM> *daey 2016-05-20T00:16:32 < PeterM> and they dont cover your shit with soot 2016-05-20T00:16:41 < kakimir> thx 2016-05-20T00:16:42 < daey> PeterM: im not saying they all dont work. but most of the magnet wires seem to be rather temp resistant 2016-05-20T00:17:06 < PeterM> daey how much magnet wiore do you work with? 2016-05-20T00:17:13 < PeterM> realisitically 2016-05-20T00:18:48 < daey> PeterM: 3 different ones 2016-05-20T00:19:03 < PeterM> ... case in point 2016-05-20T00:19:14 < daey> i wasnt basing it on my own testing 2016-05-20T00:19:49 < daey> as i said elm-chan.org has a list of multiple wires as well that didnt work 2016-05-20T00:20:37 < PeterM> link? 2016-05-20T00:22:50 < PeterM> because basically any standard PU or PA insulation magnet wire will heat strip no problems 2016-05-20T00:24:06 < upgrdman> wtf. seems like the lpc1768 rtc can return an invalid month (14) if it looses power 2016-05-20T00:25:56 < daey> PeterM: cant find it anymore... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/2v7s5n/using_magnet_wire_for_hookup_wire_gauge/cofbyfa at least here are a few more people that say it doesnt work properly 2016-05-20T00:26:55 < daey> but it doesnt matter anyway. if your wire work then keep using it. 2016-05-20T00:27:00 < daey> works* 2016-05-20T00:29:17 < brianx> i'm having a problem with always resetting into the bootloader even though the chip is programmed and boot0 is wired to ground. is there a way to read the boot0 pin on an stm32f030cc using software to be sure there isn't a bad connection somewhere? 2016-05-20T00:30:35 < brianx> i have openocd and gdb working for reading registers/flash/ram 2016-05-20T00:30:47 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T00:48:00 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/gnuEBH.gif 2016-05-20T00:48:16 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-20T00:51:27 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T00:57:17 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-20T00:58:18 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-20T01:19:07 < jadew> haha, didn't notice that 2016-05-20T01:19:21 < Sync> dongs: stepped up muh gyro game again 2016-05-20T01:22:19 < brianx> ohsix: not that i can tell. 2016-05-20T01:22:48 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T01:23:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T01:24:52 < brianx> reset halt goes to 0x1fffdc40 and continue then after a moment breaking leaves it at 0x1fffda7e in ?? () 2016-05-20T01:25:05 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T01:25:32 < brianx> or some other random address in 0x1fffxxxx 2016-05-20T01:26:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T01:28:34 < aandrew> I need to work on/find a linker script that plays nice with USB bootloaders for STM32 2016-05-20T01:30:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T01:31:34 < aandrew> well I just need to adjust the linker so that the image knows it can't touch the flash that the bootloader uses, and perhaps knows about some magic locations in RAM to pick up info from the bootloader if desired 2016-05-20T01:35:36 < brianx> the system rom at 0x1fffxxxx, not any user bootloaders. 2016-05-20T01:36:44 < brianx> i'm using eclipse and not arduino. 2016-05-20T01:37:09 < brianx> oh 2016-05-20T01:38:47 < brianx> yes, i know there is a system rom with a bootloader in it. holding boot0 to ground at power up is supposed to cause the processor to check address 0x800 0000 for FFFF and if not that value, jump to the reset vector. 2016-05-20T01:40:10 < brianx> ohsix: i read it weeks ago, not sure which of the st docs it was in. 2016-05-20T01:46:18 < brianx> ohsix: not sure it really matters to me if the boot0 is checked in hw or sw. i'm still permanently stuck in the system rom and can't get it to ever run my code. i'm attempting to figure out how to read the boot0 pin so that i can confirm it really is pulled low. 2016-05-20T01:47:27 < brianx> what i can't find is how to read the pin. 2016-05-20T01:53:29 < brianx> ohsix: AN4325 page 15 under heading "empty check" 2016-05-20T01:54:18 < brianx> the chip is STM32F030CC so the note on STM32F030xC applies 2016-05-20T02:00:08 < brianx> ohsix: i'm not trying to get into the bootloader, i'm trying to get out of it. 2016-05-20T02:01:12 < brianx> i've used openocd directly and also used gdb 2016-05-20T02:01:56 < brianx> i have read the option byte. it's right. what i can't figure out how to do is read the boot0 pin. 2016-05-20T02:02:35 < brianx> i think it's tied to ground but i want to be sure because it's the only thing that i've not verified yet. 2016-05-20T02:04:27 < brianx> so are you saying that reading the state of the boot0 pin is not documented? 2016-05-20T02:05:45 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-20T02:05:54 < Laurenceb_> David Icke is on BBC1 2016-05-20T02:06:23 < Laurenceb_> dunno 2016-05-20T02:06:24 < brianx> ohsix: so i have to depend on what my multimeter says. 2016-05-20T02:06:39 < Laurenceb_> they have given him a 5 minute slot 2016-05-20T02:06:45 < Laurenceb_> he is not on yet 2016-05-20T02:07:12 < brianx> ohsix: pulling to vcc has no impact. 2016-05-20T02:08:02 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-20T02:08:14 < Laurenceb_> he will be on next at this rate 2016-05-20T02:09:13 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-20T02:11:16 < brianx> ohsix: what in that. i've read it but not recently. 2016-05-20T02:13:26 < brianx> ohsix: it can read memory at the bootloader. 2016-05-20T02:14:19 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/tSJ0hyS.gifv 2016-05-20T02:14:25 < brianx> x 0x1fffdc40 2016-05-20T02:14:27 < brianx> 0x1fffdc40: 0x47004803 2016-05-20T02:15:41 < brianx> and suddenly it's running my code. 2016-05-20T02:15:51 < brianx> i didn't *do* anything. 2016-05-20T02:16:00 < brianx> just hit reset. 2016-05-20T02:20:01 < brianx> now that it runs, my code seems to be fine. still going through debugging all paths though. 2016-05-20T02:20:23 * brianx is frustrated. thank you for helping ohsix. 2016-05-20T02:25:24 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2016-05-20T02:25:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:49ab:2b3c:c3be:b86e] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T02:25:33 < Laurenceb_> David Icke is coming across as 100% sane 2016-05-20T02:26:59 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2016-05-20T02:27:07 < Laurenceb_> jet fuel can't melt steel beams 2016-05-20T02:27:11 < Laurenceb_> he just said it 2016-05-20T02:27:47 < Laurenceb_> international zionist conspiracy 2016-05-20T02:27:51 < Laurenceb_> wow 2016-05-20T02:27:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T02:27:57 < Laurenceb_> red pills dropping now 2016-05-20T02:28:06 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ on bbc1 2016-05-20T02:28:35 < Laurenceb_> David Icke live on BBC 2016-05-20T02:29:25 < Laurenceb_> came across as 100% sane then started talking about Zionist conspiracy and got cut off 2016-05-20T02:29:37 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ must be happy 2016-05-20T02:31:29 < Laurenceb_> "business meeting" 2016-05-20T02:32:05 < Laurenceb_> well that was some top kek 2016-05-20T02:32:17 < Laurenceb_> bbc bosses are probably raging right now for allowing that 2016-05-20T02:32:48 < Laurenceb_> it was pretty much like that 2016-05-20T02:33:28 < Laurenceb_> I don't mind, it was epin trawl level 2016-05-20T02:33:41 < Laurenceb_> everyone knows lizardz == jews 2016-05-20T02:34:11 < Laurenceb_> LOL 2016-05-20T02:34:19 < Laurenceb_> ohsix went sjw 2016-05-20T02:35:13 < Laurenceb_> yeah I'd shut the whole thing down 2016-05-20T02:35:31 < Laurenceb_> but if its delivering trawling and epin lol then I dont complain 2016-05-20T02:37:36 < Laurenceb_> asian ladyboy 2016-05-20T02:37:43 < Laurenceb_> nasty 2016-05-20T02:38:47 < Laurenceb_> crt makes amps ? 2016-05-20T02:40:54 < Laurenceb_> http://www2.b3ta.com/fp-archive/host/9406269-1.gif 2016-05-20T02:41:42 < brianx> ohsix: i'd reset it many many times. 2016-05-20T02:41:43 < Laurenceb_> http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/30035/1241035778/thumb.icke.jpg 2016-05-20T02:50:46 < brianx> ohsix: the power is from a raspberry pi 2b and reset is connected to a gpio on that same pi. i reset using pigs/pigpio. 2016-05-20T03:09:33 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-20T03:09:45 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T03:12:51 < brianx> ohsix: the power looks good on the scope and there is more power available here (after subtracting max pi consumption) than any other power supply i own. 2016-05-20T03:13:05 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T03:13:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T03:16:48 < brianx> i guess i could do an lm317 on a 5v unregulated supply that i have. 2016-05-20T03:21:05 < brianx> ohsix: no, this is a bare chip. the C variant isn't available on the discovery 2016-05-20T03:21:26 < brianx> ohsix: there are 6 decoupling caps, per the manual. 2016-05-20T03:22:09 < brianx> it's in a zif carrier. 2016-05-20T03:27:55 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T03:37:04 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T03:37:33 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T03:40:19 < dongs> karlp: oh, right. its .cc and .org. fucking lol. 2016-05-20T03:40:43 < dongs> i should probly put more content on tarduino.cc 2016-05-20T03:58:44 < dongs> you could always blog on irc 2016-05-20T03:58:48 < dongs> like.. some people 2016-05-20T04:00:01 < Laurenceb_> become a video blogger 2016-05-20T04:00:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T04:01:04 < Laurenceb_> the route the e-celebrity status 2016-05-20T04:01:33 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-20T04:01:47 * Laurenceb_ wonders if eevblog has an ED page 2016-05-20T04:02:05 < Laurenceb_> no :( 2016-05-20T04:02:08 < Laurenceb_> better get writing 2016-05-20T04:02:24 < Laurenceb_> nothing on emdrive either :( 2016-05-20T04:03:44 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-20T04:03:48 < Laurenceb_> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Kesha 2016-05-20T04:11:17 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-20T04:11:17 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T04:11:45 < Laurenceb_> crt: cuz basement dwellers didnt get laid 2016-05-20T04:11:59 < Laurenceb_> apparently its their "newest" page 2016-05-20T04:13:07 < Laurenceb_> ED is turning into cancer :-/ 2016-05-20T04:15:58 < dongs> that cancer that is destroying laurence/b/? 2016-05-20T04:16:04 -!- awa [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T04:16:52 < Laurenceb_> serious business 2016-05-20T04:32:46 < upgrdman> is there any way in c to make integer constants default to like LL or ULL or someshit 2016-05-20T04:34:33 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-20T04:35:45 < awa> WHen I use HAL_UART_Transmit() which is a blocking call, are there side effects if I put the timeout as zero? 2016-05-20T04:41:58 < upgrdman> ohsix, http://i.imgur.com/gxSl3Yw.gifv 2016-05-20T04:42:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-20T04:48:34 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/AjWQgkq 2016-05-20T05:10:32 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T05:13:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-20T05:38:42 < aandrew> ohsix: no, I don't think you understand 2016-05-20T05:38:58 < aandrew> ohsix: the bootloader occupies part of flash 2016-05-20T05:39:15 < aandrew> ohsix: the bootloaded application needs to use a linker script that leaves that bootloader part alone 2016-05-20T05:39:43 < aandrew> the resulting image is either flashed separately or given to the bootloader to flash (if it's a bootloader that can load images) 2016-05-20T05:40:12 < aandrew> ohsix: it's not about how to give the app to the bootloader, it's how to create a binary that obeys the rules so it isn't conflicting with the bootloader for memory in flash 2016-05-20T05:40:35 < dongs> lol cs30 arrived 2016-05-20T05:40:38 < dongs> holy shit packaging 2016-05-20T05:40:44 < dongs> they are even better than zano 2016-05-20T05:40:50 < dongs> i expected broken plastic in a bag 2016-05-20T05:41:09 < dongs> wow. its not small 2016-05-20T05:41:39 < aandrew> ohsix: nah almost every modern processor has a ROM bootloader that gives youa few ways to boot 2016-05-20T05:41:49 < dongs> aandrew: /ignore ohsix, problem solved 2016-05-20T05:41:56 < dongs> join the cool guyts club 2016-05-20T05:42:02 < aandrew> I wasn't intending on linking the bootloader to my application in the literal sense 2016-05-20T05:42:24 < aandrew> what's a cs30 2016-05-20T05:42:33 < dongs> sry cx30w 2016-05-20T05:42:36 < dongs> the $6 dongcopter 2016-05-20T05:42:49 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162053733518? 2016-05-20T05:43:48 < aandrew> oh I know 2016-05-20T05:43:53 < aandrew> I've bootloadered things before 2016-05-20T05:43:58 < aandrew> just talking out loud 2016-05-20T05:44:18 < aandrew> do you guys use anything specific for usb capable bootloader (for doing DFU type updates) 2016-05-20T05:44:58 < dongs> i've just used ST sample shit w/dfu 2016-05-20T05:45:02 < dongs> on my stuff 2016-05-20T05:45:59 < dongs> zyp wrote his own in C++2022 2016-05-20T05:46:03 < dongs> so nothing can compile it 2016-05-20T05:46:17 < aandrew> what internal one 2016-05-20T05:46:25 < aandrew> there is no internal USB bootloader (at least not on STM32F417) 2016-05-20T05:46:53 < aandrew> dongs: yeah I was going to use ST's app note one if I can find it again 2016-05-20T05:47:07 < dongs> its e asy 2016-05-20T05:47:13 < dongs> i think dfu sample is in stdpeirioplib. 2016-05-20T05:47:18 < dongs> or maybe in USB-FS library 2016-05-20T05:47:51 < aandrew> I never liked the "usb memory stick" bootloader idea 2016-05-20T05:47:57 < aandrew> it's not a fucking flash drive 2016-05-20T05:49:58 < aandrew> I forget what else used it, nuvoton maybe 2016-05-20T05:50:05 < aandrew> you'd copy the hex file there 2016-05-20T05:50:14 < aandrew> and it'd create a textfile that you read ot get the status 2016-05-20T05:50:19 < aandrew> it was the gayest shit I ever encountered 2016-05-20T05:50:35 < dongs> aandrew: mbed does it but thats just a customer bootlolder 2016-05-20T05:50:43 < dongs> did something have such thing in ROM? 2016-05-20T05:50:49 < aandrew> in fact the only thing that could be gayer is if it had an animated gif of a cock growing more erect as the flash progressed 2016-05-20T05:51:01 < dongs> sounds good 2016-05-20T05:52:08 < aandrew> you just double-click on proerectgress.gif 2016-05-20T05:53:01 < aandrew> yes, ohsix, I know, it was a joke 2016-05-20T05:53:17 < aandrew> althogh I'm sure you could actually make it happen with some hackery 2016-05-20T05:53:43 < aandrew> quantized goatse that gets clearer with every step 2016-05-20T05:55:11 < aandrew> when I was testing my FX3 USB camera design I had hardocded something like eleven frames of 4k nyancat 2016-05-20T05:55:22 < aandrew> so when you opened hte camera device you had nyancat flying in 4k 2016-05-20T05:55:49 < aandrew> it was a proof of concept to demonstrate that the FX3 could in fact be a camera device 2016-05-20T05:55:58 < aandrew> that was out of scope but I thought about it 2016-05-20T05:56:14 < aandrew> audio descriptors suck, as do isochronous endpoints 2016-05-20T05:56:20 < dongs> er, yeah, doesntr fx3 even have an appnote for using it as UVC cam? 2016-05-20T05:56:28 < dongs> taiwan office did some video capture shite with it 2016-05-20T05:56:33 < aandrew> yes, a really shitty one 2016-05-20T05:56:36 < dongs> 1080p60 or osmeshit for ps3 hax 2016-05-20T05:57:16 < dongs> fx3 is dead 2 me cuz opensores toolchain only 2016-05-20T05:57:25 < dongs> and everyone at cypress is an indian 2016-05-20T05:57:36 < aandrew> lol 2016-05-20T05:57:45 < aandrew> that's exactly why I love fx3. gcc4eva 2016-05-20T05:57:51 < dongs> fuckign stoner 2016-05-20T05:58:00 < aandrew> but yes, trying to get any real answer on cypress forums is a lost cause 2016-05-20T05:58:21 < aandrew> anything with "I have a doubt" you can just skip the entire site. it's been infected 2016-05-20T05:58:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-20T05:59:55 < dongs> hshs 2016-05-20T06:03:42 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T06:04:54 < dongs> crt, why you gotta provoke 2016-05-20T06:05:03 < dongs> if everyone ignores maybe he;'ll fucking get a hint and leave 2016-05-20T06:06:47 < dongs> did they bring a jizz-covered dj deck 2016-05-20T06:06:56 < dongs> sliders operated by erect penis 2016-05-20T06:57:59 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T07:24:37 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T07:28:01 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-20T07:28:05 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-20T08:34:32 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T08:38:39 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-20T08:38:46 < upgrdman> never fucked with a microsemi fpga 2016-05-20T08:39:00 < upgrdman> they any good? what's their angle? cheaper than others? 2016-05-20T09:10:25 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-20T09:25:29 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T09:25:50 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T09:27:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T09:28:30 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T09:30:34 < upgrdman> god damn what the fuck http://imgur.com/MfCHrKD 2016-05-20T09:31:27 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T09:34:17 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-20T09:45:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T09:59:51 < PeterM> upgrdman, it looks like its trying to say > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1haWHq7o7lA 2016-05-20T10:00:35 < upgrdman> oh i have to watch some of the saw movies again 2016-05-20T10:00:45 < upgrdman> they were some of hte only horror movies i found tolerable 2016-05-20T10:01:55 < PeterM> they get worse and then they get better 2016-05-20T10:02:26 < PeterM> the first oen is decent, the second one is also decent, hte next two arew average and garbage and hte last ones are good 2016-05-20T10:02:53 < upgrdman> how many are there now 2016-05-20T10:02:54 < upgrdman> 6? 2016-05-20T10:03:02 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-20T10:03:35 < PeterM> i think atleast 2016-05-20T10:04:03 < ReadError> new one? 2016-05-20T10:04:06 < ReadError> let me see 2016-05-20T10:04:06 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T10:05:06 < ReadError> oh 22hrs ago 2016-05-20T10:05:09 < ReadError> haha nice 2016-05-20T10:09:19 < ReadError> grabbing that now 2016-05-20T10:09:44 < ReadError> need to finish 60 days in, halfway through then had to phone with work person 2016-05-20T10:15:35 < upgrdman> you guys torrenting the shows? 2016-05-20T10:15:55 < upgrdman> i recall torrenting some episode of The Office like 5 years ago, and getting a DMCA notice in the mail 2016-05-20T10:16:19 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-20T10:16:35 -!- effractur [~Erik@hlm000.nl.z4p.nl] has quit [Quit: skier_] 2016-05-20T10:16:40 < ReadError> upgrdman you can use usenet too 2016-05-20T10:16:46 < ReadError> non-peer2peer 2016-05-20T10:16:49 < upgrdman> oh shit that still exists? 2016-05-20T10:16:55 < upgrdman> alt.bin.erotica etc 2016-05-20T10:17:06 < ReadError> yup 2016-05-20T10:17:13 < ReadError> its still pretty active/big 2016-05-20T10:17:16 -!- effractur [~Erik@hlm000.nl.z4p.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T10:17:25 < ReadError> for torrents though, I use a seedbox 2016-05-20T10:17:26 < upgrdman> shit i remember downloading porn on dial up as a kid back in the days of AOL 2016-05-20T10:17:32 < upgrdman> from alt.bin shit 2016-05-20T10:17:33 < ReadError> lol irc bots? 2016-05-20T10:17:35 < ReadError> oh 2016-05-20T10:17:47 < ReadError> when I was in 5th grade I remember getting on dalnet 2016-05-20T10:17:51 < upgrdman> oh those too, on EFNET. /msg shits to get menus, etc 2016-05-20T10:17:53 < ReadError> and using the xdcc 2016-05-20T10:17:57 < ReadError> fservs 2016-05-20T10:18:12 < ReadError> on dialup too lol 2016-05-20T10:19:09 < upgrdman> whats a seedbox 2016-05-20T10:19:17 < dongs> paying money to pirate 2016-05-20T10:19:20 < ReadError> basically its a shell account 2016-05-20T10:19:21 < dongs> instead of you know.. just paying for fucking tv 2016-05-20T10:19:24 < ReadError> with fat pipes 2016-05-20T10:19:24 < PeterM> upgrdman, i dont think ive gotten a DMCA notice in years 2016-05-20T10:19:25 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-20T10:19:26 < ReadError> bit storage 2016-05-20T10:19:29 < ReadError> big* 2016-05-20T10:19:36 < upgrdman> ReadError, how much 2016-05-20T10:19:41 < dongs> PeterM: does ausfagland even have dmca 2016-05-20T10:19:43 < ReadError> bout 12-15 bux 2016-05-20T10:19:50 < ReadError> but it gets shit instantly 2016-05-20T10:19:51 < dongs> upgrdman: more than jewflix 2016-05-20T10:19:52 < upgrdman> PeterM, i just stopped torrenting any torrents that are <1yr old 2016-05-20T10:19:54 < ReadError> like 1gb in a few seconds 2016-05-20T10:19:57 < PeterM> dongs you get notices, btu no repocussions 2016-05-20T10:19:59 < upgrdman> and stopped getting DMCA notices 2016-05-20T10:20:13 < ReadError> saves your upstream 2016-05-20T10:20:15 < ReadError> hides your IP 2016-05-20T10:20:24 < ReadError> lets you keep a ratio if you need to 2016-05-20T10:20:46 < upgrdman> $12-15 per month, or year 2016-05-20T10:20:48 < ReadError> then you just run a cron to rsync shit over 2016-05-20T10:20:50 < ReadError> month 2016-05-20T10:20:54 < upgrdman> wtf. that's a lot 2016-05-20T10:21:06 < ReadError> but, I have 1.8TB of disk space 2016-05-20T10:21:13 < dongs> < dongs> paying money to pirate 2016-05-20T10:21:15 < ReadError> 4.5TB of upload 2016-05-20T10:21:24 < PeterM> i think the last thing i got a DMCA notice for was for porn, which is odd because i used to torrent a lot of other stuff that would probably garner much more attention 2016-05-20T10:21:26 < dongs> hey ReadError does that "seed box" run stm32 2016-05-20T10:21:26 < ReadError> plus you can do w/e else you want on the box 2016-05-20T10:21:36 < ReadError> run a ZNC/BNC 2016-05-20T10:21:41 < dongs> cuz if not, its offtopic to this fucking cahnnel 2016-05-20T10:21:45 < upgrdman> znc? 2016-05-20T10:21:54 < ReadError> znc, like a bouncer 2016-05-20T10:21:57 < ReadError> for irc 2016-05-20T10:22:02 < upgrdman> o 2016-05-20T10:22:25 < upgrdman> like screen or whatever that gnu thing is 2016-05-20T10:22:37 < ReadError> well you can use any client 2016-05-20T10:22:42 < ReadError> its more like a proxy 2016-05-20T10:22:44 < ReadError> i guess... 2016-05-20T10:22:46 < upgrdman> o 2016-05-20T10:22:49 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-20T10:22:52 < ReadError> it stays connected, you connect to it 2016-05-20T10:23:13 < ReadError> so if you connect from a different pc, it doesnt matter 2016-05-20T10:23:18 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-20T10:23:19 < ReadError> it will replay the bloglog 2016-05-20T10:25:52 < dongs> https://www.facebook.com/BritishAsiansUK/videos/487522704767582/ 2016-05-20T10:25:56 < ReadError> yea, also protects you from DDoS 2016-05-20T10:26:08 < ReadError> cuz people on other networks, maybe some here 2016-05-20T10:26:15 < ReadError> liked to do that kinda stuff 2016-05-20T10:26:27 < ReadError> ohsix channel takeovers 2016-05-20T10:26:35 < ReadError> on teh efnets 2016-05-20T10:26:42 < ReadError> seen it happen a few times 2016-05-20T10:26:48 < upgrdman> takeovers? 2016-05-20T10:26:56 < upgrdman> like a flood of joins? 2016-05-20T10:26:58 < ReadError> yea, there are no services on efnet 2016-05-20T10:27:08 < ReadError> so no registered nicks or channels 2016-05-20T10:27:16 < ReadError> if you join a channel with 0 people, you gain ops 2016-05-20T10:27:24 < upgrdman> oh ya i remember that 2016-05-20T10:28:22 < dongs> must be autism hour 2016-05-20T10:28:35 < dongs> upgrdman: wtf are you 13 or osmething 2016-05-20T10:28:41 < dongs> that you never heard of irc or etc 2016-05-20T10:28:43 < upgrdman> dongs, ? 2016-05-20T10:28:58 < upgrdman> i was on efnet back in the day, but not too active 2016-05-20T10:29:13 < ReadError> upgrdman so ya it is pay for piracy 2016-05-20T10:29:24 < ReadError> but its convenient and safe 2016-05-20T10:29:30 < ReadError> and fast 2016-05-20T10:29:38 < upgrdman> i tried to torrent some shit when i was in .cn and never got magnet data to transfer 2016-05-20T10:29:45 < upgrdman> kinda bummed out about that 2016-05-20T10:29:52 < dongs> laff 2016-05-20T10:29:54 < upgrdman> was hoping .cn didnt care 2016-05-20T10:30:27 < ReadError> upgrdman this will get around that 2016-05-20T10:30:32 < upgrdman> i know 2016-05-20T10:30:44 < upgrdman> but if the jizzbox is outside of .cn it would be slow as fuck to access 2016-05-20T10:30:48 < ReadError> plus you can use it as an ssh tunnel or w/e 2016-05-20T10:32:22 < ReadError> I thought ssh worked? 2016-05-20T10:32:29 < ReadError> or thats what i was told 2016-05-20T10:32:52 < upgrdman> who did 2016-05-20T10:33:21 < upgrdman> i did, it didnt blow but it was often loosing packets 2016-05-20T10:33:26 < upgrdman> ya openvpn 2016-05-20T10:33:29 < upgrdman> + stunnel 2016-05-20T10:33:32 < upgrdman> works 2016-05-20T10:34:16 < upgrdman> but even without a vpn, you loose packets so fucking much in cn 2016-05-20T10:34:25 < upgrdman> if you access shit outside of .cn 2016-05-20T10:34:45 < upgrdman> even if unencrypted. 2016-05-20T10:35:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.31] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T10:35:56 < upgrdman> i tried deploying an AWS instance in Tokyo... still slow as fuck 2016-05-20T10:36:06 < upgrdman> also Germany, Australia 2016-05-20T10:36:09 < dongs> is aws bant from china? 2016-05-20T10:36:14 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-20T10:36:20 < upgrdman> theres even AWS in Beijing 2016-05-20T10:36:23 < dongs> o 2016-05-20T10:36:28 < upgrdman> im not in .cn right now, ohsix 2016-05-20T10:36:29 < dongs> so what was wrong with that 2016-05-20T10:36:53 < upgrdman> dongs, the whole point of trying AWS was to see if i could get a connection to the OUTSIDE world that wasnt slow as fuck 2016-05-20T10:37:08 < upgrdman> so i could VPN decently 2016-05-20T10:37:53 < dongs> yeah but amazon local shit via their network should be OK 2016-05-20T10:38:13 < upgrdman> i only wanted AWS so i could VPN to the USA 2016-05-20T10:38:31 < zyp> so you need two AWS instances, one in china and one outside, so you can use amazon internal network between that? 2016-05-20T10:38:45 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-20T10:38:49 < zyp> I mean, if there even is an internal network, I don't know AWS 2016-05-20T10:39:16 < ReadError> http://www.banggood.com/Broadlink-Black-Bean-Smart-Home-Wifi-Remote-IR-Controller-Universal-Appliances-Smart-Control-p-1049494.html 2016-05-20T10:40:29 < upgrdman> in my experience .cn does hassle foreigners too much 2016-05-20T10:40:36 < upgrdman> unless you like protest the govt 2016-05-20T10:40:46 < ReadError> doesnt* ? 2016-05-20T10:40:52 < upgrdman> err ya does NOT 2016-05-20T10:40:55 < dongs> APP FULL ENGLISH 2016-05-20T10:41:15 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T10:43:26 < upgrdman> ohsix, dangerous prototypes tweeted about using AWS Beijing. it sucked ass 2016-05-20T10:43:39 < upgrdman> china is just fucked 2016-05-20T10:44:08 < upgrdman> im pretty sure .cn has a grip on AWS in Beijing 2016-05-20T10:44:19 < upgrdman> they would leave a gapping hole 2016-05-20T10:44:24 < upgrdman> err wouldNT 2016-05-20T10:44:34 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-20T10:46:16 < ReadError> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1Yg3kIpXXXXbAXpXXq6xXFXXXC/NEW-Steam-sauna-box-household-steamer-folding-fumigation-machine.jpg_640x640.jpg 2016-05-20T10:48:03 < upgrdman> i was actually looking into satellite isp (like iridium) but then saw the prices :( and i'd have to smuggle a modem+antenna into .cn 2016-05-20T10:48:22 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-20T10:48:30 < upgrdman> .cn can be SLOWER THAN DIAL UP 2016-05-20T10:48:34 < upgrdman> because of packet losses 2016-05-20T10:48:49 < upgrdman> like no shit. 20Kbps ... kiloBITS 2016-05-20T10:48:49 < ReadError> how can their internet be so bad 2016-05-20T10:48:59 < upgrdman> intentionally 2016-05-20T10:49:13 < upgrdman> they cripple their international links 2016-05-20T10:50:39 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-20T10:50:54 < upgrdman> when i vpn, i have to tunnel DNS 2016-05-20T10:50:59 < upgrdman> or shit doesnt resolve 2016-05-20T10:51:31 < upgrdman> anyway its 1am. will chat moar after sun rise. 2016-05-20T10:51:50 < dongs> something autism6 should try doing 2016-05-20T10:51:53 < upgrdman> o/ 2016-05-20T11:01:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T11:13:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T11:15:09 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T11:15:40 < Blatinox> hi everyone ! 2016-05-20T11:16:10 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T11:16:24 < Blatinox> I am trying to use the USB HS of my STM32 discovery with an external PHY (a USB3300), but it does not work for now 2016-05-20T11:18:45 < Blatinox> I find some projects that use the USB HS, but when I compile them and flash the binary to my board it does not work 2016-05-20T11:18:54 < Blatinox> no 2016-05-20T11:19:04 < Blatinox> I don't have the ENUMDNE interrupt 2016-05-20T11:20:37 < Blatinox> Does anyone have a link to a project that works, so I could know if the problem comes from my code or my wires ? 2016-05-20T11:21:02 < Blatinox> I use a USB3300 and I think this PHY should work with my STM32 2016-05-20T11:21:46 < dongs> i dont recall anyone in here using external hs stuff 2016-05-20T11:22:19 < zyp> Blatinox, do you have the PHYSEL bit set right? 2016-05-20T11:22:27 < zyp> dongs, I've tested it on the waveshare board 2016-05-20T11:22:33 < dongs> o, cool 2016-05-20T11:22:44 < dongs> ya i figured if anyone did it was you 2016-05-20T11:23:41 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vvamhthmknjirjvj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-20T11:24:57 < Blatinox> zyp: the PHSEL bit in GUSBCFG register ? It is not set 2016-05-20T11:25:11 < Blatinox> but in the datasheet, the value to select USB 2.0 HS ULPI PHY is 0 2016-05-20T11:25:14 < Blatinox> for this bit 2016-05-20T11:25:17 < zyp> hmm, I don't remember if it was supposed to be set or cleared 2016-05-20T11:26:01 < dongs> so 2016-05-20T11:26:07 < dongs> if im gonna change to a new 3x3 inductor 2016-05-20T11:26:17 < dongs> looks liek VLF3010 stuff was actually 2.8x3.2 or so 2016-05-20T11:26:37 < zyp> ohsix, the internal one is only FS-capable 2016-05-20T11:26:42 < Blatinox> zyp: according to the reference manual, it should be cleared 2016-05-20T11:26:50 < zyp> Blatinox, yeah, looks like you're right 2016-05-20T11:27:05 < Blatinox> Is there a way to read/write in the PHY register ? 2016-05-20T11:27:11 < zyp> Blatinox, did you set all ULPI pins to AF and the correct AF? 2016-05-20T11:27:19 < Blatinox> yes, AF10 2016-05-20T11:27:25 < zyp> hmm 2016-05-20T11:27:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T11:27:28 < dongs> which -discovery are you connecting it to? 2016-05-20T11:27:31 < zyp> does it work with the internal phy? 2016-05-20T11:27:37 < dongs> are you sure there's no other trash pulling htem 2016-05-20T11:27:59 < Blatinox> is there a way to directly read or write in the PHY's register to test the ULPI ? 2016-05-20T11:28:06 < zyp> not that I know 2016-05-20T11:28:10 < dongs> Blatinox: which -discovery 2016-05-20T11:28:34 < Blatinox> zyp: I will try with the internal phy 2016-05-20T11:28:40 < Blatinox> dongs: stm32f4-discovery 2016-05-20T11:28:41 < zyp> but anyway, as far as I remember, all you need to do is configure the pins right and get the PHYSEL bit right 2016-05-20T11:29:04 < zyp> and of course account for FS/HS mode switch 2016-05-20T11:29:07 < dongs> Blatinox: ok and you checked the user manual for that and all the ulpi pins are clear from other periperals, and if not, you've cut/unbridged all the relevant pins? 2016-05-20T11:30:03 < Blatinox> dongs: I will recheck the pins configuration but yes, they are clear from other peripherals 2016-05-20T11:30:24 < Blatinox> zyp: what is the account for FS/HS mode switch ? 2016-05-20T11:30:58 < zyp> a HS-capable device might be connected in both FS and HS mode 2016-05-20T11:31:13 < zyp> HS mode have different descriptor requirements than FS mode 2016-05-20T11:31:29 < zyp> bulk MPS must be 64 for FS, 512 for HS 2016-05-20T11:31:35 < zyp> to name one 2016-05-20T11:32:27 < Blatinox> zyp: but my problem is before the descriptor or other stuff stage 2016-05-20T11:32:34 < zyp> yep 2016-05-20T11:33:22 < zyp> does the host see a connection attempt when you plug it in? 2016-05-20T11:33:36 < zyp> i.e. is the pullups in the phy enabled? 2016-05-20T11:37:58 < Blatinox> I see nothing in my dmesg but I don't know if it is the right way to know if the host see a connection attempt 2016-05-20T11:42:05 < dongs> ... 2016-05-20T11:42:11 < dongs> use a real fucking OS 2016-05-20T11:42:15 < dongs> then you will hear that usb plug in sound 2016-05-20T11:44:20 < dongs> Blatinox: seriously, triple check if ulpi stuff is connected to some gyro/i2c/i2s/whatever junk on -disco 2016-05-20T11:44:36 < karlp> aandrew: mipi-dsi was a separate comment to microchip. I felt that arduino partnering with st for new "STAR" boards meant something had soured with microchip now, if they didn't want to keep using atmel sam parts. I then _also_ felt that mipi-dsi on a mictor connector on the bottom of that board was a curious feature to be proclaimin about in the press release for an arduino board 2016-05-20T11:44:41 < dongs> its kinda hard to have usb chats if some other trash is pulling on the lines for you 2016-05-20T11:45:22 < dongs> karlp: next arduino will feature pic32mz 2016-05-20T11:45:29 < dongs> with external SRAM on EBI 2016-05-20T11:45:37 < dongs> and bitbanged DCMI 2016-05-20T11:45:41 < dongs> to 5mp camera sensor 2016-05-20T11:45:44 < dongs> using zano technology 2016-05-20T11:46:07 < dongs> bourns inductor 3d models are so ugly looking 2016-05-20T11:46:12 < dongs> they didnt even bother coloring them 2016-05-20T11:46:14 < dongs> just plain white model 2016-05-20T11:48:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-20T11:57:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-255.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:12:15 < karlp> how much did you pay for the models dongs? ;) 2016-05-20T12:12:27 < karlp> aren't you always the one harping on about creating your own footprints? same story now :) 2016-05-20T12:17:35 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:18:14 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:23:22 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-20T12:30:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.82] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:37:27 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-20T12:38:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-255.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-20T12:41:24 -!- pich [d4ea2487@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.234.36.135] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:41:39 < pich> Hi 2016-05-20T12:42:50 < jpa-> hello 2016-05-20T12:43:04 -!- pich_ [d4ea2487@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.234.36.135] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:43:12 < pich_> hi 2016-05-20T12:43:15 < jpa-> nice to see you brought your friend also 2016-05-20T12:44:14 < pich> I am looking for help on a problem I have with STM32 and SPI reception. 2016-05-20T12:45:03 -!- pich_ [d4ea2487@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.234.36.135] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-20T12:45:18 < pich> arf, I was connected 2 times on the same channel, sorry 2016-05-20T12:45:44 -!- timemob [dadbfe7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.219.254.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:45:48 < timemob> hi 2016-05-20T12:46:12 < pich> hi 2016-05-20T12:47:03 < timemob> zyp: what is the NAME of shift-S in altidong? 2016-05-20T12:47:10 < timemob> they changed something in clean install defaults on 16.1 2016-05-20T12:47:18 < timemob> now shift-s has 3 modes 2016-05-20T12:47:20 < timemob> and its raging as fuck 2016-05-20T12:47:34 < timemob> but my shit at other office works ok so it must be some pref 2016-05-20T12:48:04 < pich> Sorry, I don't know 2016-05-20T12:48:36 < pich> (actually, I was looking for help on SPI reception on STM32 and I am a beginner on the matter 2016-05-20T12:48:42 < timemob> k 'single layer mode' 2016-05-20T12:48:51 < timemob> now to find the dumb pref 2016-05-20T12:49:15 < timemob> pich, whats wrong with SPI 2016-05-20T12:49:20 < timemob> its like easiest thing ever 2016-05-20T12:49:52 < pich> I am regularly missing interrupts on SPI1_IRQHandler and I don't know why 2016-05-20T12:50:47 < timemob> is your code too big 2016-05-20T12:50:53 < timemob> use DMA? 2016-05-20T12:51:14 < pich> Let's say I send 10 bytes but when I set my strobe down, regularly, there is only 9 (and the missing one is not every time the same and often in the middle of the buffer sent 2016-05-20T12:51:29 < timemob> found it. board insignt display -> modes available in single layer 2016-05-20T12:51:50 < timemob> how fast spi, how much processing in the IRQ? 2016-05-20T12:52:35 < pich> the spi is driven by the master who sents approx at 1 kHz 2016-05-20T12:52:59 < pich> in the IRQ, I have a few lines of code with affectation only 2016-05-20T12:53:18 < timemob> so clearly not speed issue. 2016-05-20T12:53:25 < timemob> time to get that logic analyzer out. 2016-05-20T12:53:59 < pich> what do you mean ? 2016-05-20T12:54:25 < timemob> to make sure you're receiving correct stuff. 2016-05-20T12:54:35 < timemob> also make sure your cpha/etc stuff is matching your master 2016-05-20T12:54:51 < timemob> or you get random missed bits if stuff is "close" 2016-05-20T12:55:03 < timemob> like SPI mode 0/1/2/3 or hwatever 2016-05-20T12:55:47 < pich> Sorry, what do you mean by stuff 2016-05-20T12:55:51 < pich> strobe ? 2016-05-20T12:56:15 < timemob> where it reads data, on rising/falling edge etc 2016-05-20T12:57:55 < pich> I have the interrupt SPI1_IRQHandler which is called everytime a set of bits is sent by the master 2016-05-20T12:58:12 < pich> At the of the transaction, the master sets the strobe down 2016-05-20T12:58:31 < pich> at that time, another interrupt is called EXTI4_IRQHandler 2016-05-20T12:58:49 -!- awa [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-20T12:59:11 < pich> and ther I see sometimes that a bit is missing 2016-05-20T12:59:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T12:59:30 < pich> actually, not a bit but a Byte 2016-05-20T13:00:48 < pich> I use IAR 2016-05-20T13:01:10 < pich> Do you know if I can log when those 2 interrupts only are called ? 2016-05-20T13:01:44 < karlp> sure, you could use some ram to have some counters for those interrupts, and then just checkin the debugger what they're at. 2016-05-20T13:01:47 < pich> when I log all the interrupts, I have too many things written and I can't see anything 2016-05-20T13:01:49 < timemob> toggle gpio on entry and check with logic analyzer, or log it over SWO 2016-05-20T13:02:03 < timemob> or what ^ said 2016-05-20T13:02:03 < karlp> are you _100%_ sure that the master is correct? 2016-05-20T13:02:13 < jpa-> if you just printf() log it, it will slow down the code; all the other hints are good :) 2016-05-20T13:02:17 < pich> yes, the master is correct 2016-05-20T13:02:33 < karlp> jpa-: if it's reallllly only 1khz, not sure it would matter :) 2016-05-20T13:02:50 < pich> hmm, I still have a slight interrogation on something 2016-05-20T13:02:55 < jpa-> karlp: true 2016-05-20T13:03:14 < timemob> wtf 2016-05-20T13:03:18 < timemob> mouse over highlight is gone too 2016-05-20T13:03:25 < timemob> damn so many dumb changes in altidong 2016-05-20T13:03:32 < pich> mouse over what ? 2016-05-20T13:04:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-20T13:04:24 < karlp> pich: not everyone is 100% dedicated to your problem. 2016-05-20T13:05:02 < timemob> 'live highlighting only when shift key is down' 2016-05-20T13:05:04 < timemob> ya thanks altium 2016-05-20T13:05:12 < pich> sorry, I am not really used to IRC channels and I had not seen the other questions. Will pay more attention 2016-05-20T13:05:21 < timemob> im just blogging 2016-05-20T13:08:46 < zyp> timemob, shift-s? 2016-05-20T13:08:54 < pich> thanks guys for your help, I think I need to double check what my master sends 2016-05-20T13:10:43 < timemob> zyp, yeah 2016-05-20T13:10:48 < timemob> single layer mdoe. 2016-05-20T13:10:54 < zyp> what's that? 2016-05-20T13:10:59 < timemob> you dont use it? 2016-05-20T13:11:15 < timemob> hit shift-s in altidong pcb layout. 2016-05-20T13:11:16 < zyp> I pressed shift-s in altium here, nothing happened 2016-05-20T13:11:21 < timemob> is like the most useful feature 2016-05-20T13:11:25 < timemob> er? 2016-05-20T13:11:27 < timemob> in pcb? 2016-05-20T13:11:27 < zyp> oh, that 2016-05-20T13:12:00 < zyp> heh, forgot about that, haven't used it for years 2016-05-20T13:12:22 < timemob> man how do you deal 2016-05-20T13:12:26 < timemob> just hide unused shit in L? 2016-05-20T13:12:38 < timemob> or use layer stacks or someshit 2016-05-20T13:15:27 < timemob> ugh 2016-05-20T13:15:33 < timemob> also pt -> routing and clicking ends 2016-05-20T13:15:37 < timemob> if you're already on same net 2016-05-20T13:15:43 < timemob> before it needed right click 2016-05-20T13:15:50 < timemob> must be another pref cuz i've routed other shit since updating 2016-05-20T13:15:58 < timemob> cant_unlearn 2016-05-20T13:22:38 < timemob> great 2016-05-20T13:22:40 < timemob> p-m is broken too 2016-05-20T13:22:45 < timemob> only draws one trace for some reason 2016-05-20T13:27:48 -!- timemob [dadbfe7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.219.254.126] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-20T13:32:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-255.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T13:36:30 < Ecco> Is it possible to get altium to name nets on the PCB after ports in the schematics? 2016-05-20T13:38:08 < zyp> yes 2016-05-20T13:38:25 < zyp> in the project options, there's a "allow ports to name nets" checkbox 2016-05-20T13:38:47 < zyp> for some reson it defaults to unchecked, I'm always checking it 2016-05-20T13:39:31 < jpa-> is it possible to get kicad to do the same? sounds reasonable thing :) 2016-05-20T13:44:32 < Ecco> Thanks zyp 2016-05-20T13:44:52 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@office1.tanecpraha.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T13:45:14 < zyp> jpa-, well, it's open source, nothing is impossible 2016-05-20T13:45:35 < Ecco> Is there something to do then to trigger renaming? 2016-05-20T13:45:38 < jpa-> zyp: yeah :) 2016-05-20T13:46:20 < zyp> Ecco, no 2016-05-20T13:46:57 < zyp> I mean, you have to do the update thing to transfer the new net names from schematic to PCB 2016-05-20T13:47:15 < zyp> but in schematic view, you should have the new names just from checking that box 2016-05-20T13:47:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-20T13:47:37 < Ecco> Great, thanks 2016-05-20T13:48:04 < Ecco> Excellent, thank you! 2016-05-20T13:56:50 < dongs> i put net names next to ports anyway 2016-05-20T13:56:52 < dongs> just to make sure 2016-05-20T13:57:58 < dongs> lol why the fuck does windows explorer in win10 have a "fullscreen" folder mode 2016-05-20T13:57:59 < dongs> F11 2016-05-20T13:58:20 < dongs> oh apparently its old 2016-05-20T13:58:23 < dongs> win7 does same 2016-05-20T13:58:28 < dongs> ive never managed to hit it 2016-05-20T13:59:37 < karlp> hrm, girlfriend just called, "how can I run windows on my mac" 2016-05-20T13:59:52 < dongs> delete that steve gayshit from it and install win10 2016-05-20T13:59:58 < karlp> turns out none of the accounting software runs on mac. 2016-05-20T14:00:17 < dongs> does *anything* of value run on mac? 2016-05-20T14:00:34 < karlp> can she just buy retail win10 and install it on her old mac? or is it goign to be a mess of bootcamp shit? 2016-05-20T14:00:37 < jpa-> https://www.apple.com/support/macbasics/windowsmac/ how to run windows is a basic mac skill 2016-05-20T14:01:02 < dongs> i duno if there s a way to fully trash macos 2016-05-20T14:01:20 < dongs> karlp: download win10 and buy a key off ebay 2016-05-20T14:01:23 < dongs> for ~$20ish 2016-05-20T14:01:35 < dongs> retail win10 is like $150 2016-05-20T14:02:12 < karlp> jpa-: thanks, this is not the techsupport I wanted to be doing :) 2016-05-20T14:09:36 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T14:14:04 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T14:14:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T14:26:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T14:31:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-255.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T14:46:46 < ReadError> karlp just get parallels 2016-05-20T14:47:24 < ReadError> no need to partition etc 2016-05-20T14:50:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-255.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T14:59:09 < dongs> hm fucvk 2016-05-20T14:59:14 < dongs> somehow i got carried away copypasting 2016-05-20T14:59:18 < dongs> and I have 2 pulldown resistors 2016-05-20T14:59:21 < dongs> on smae net 2016-05-20T15:00:34 < dongs> do i: remove one 2016-05-20T15:00:39 < dongs> or: just fuck it 2016-05-20T15:02:27 < Tectu> fuck it and blame somebody else 2016-05-20T15:02:40 < dongs> it was already prototyped and works 2016-05-20T15:02:44 < dongs> buut.. 2016-05-20T15:02:51 < dongs> does it work because of combined pulldown resistance 2016-05-20T15:02:55 < dongs> or it d oesnt amtter :) 2016-05-20T15:10:06 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T15:17:15 < Laurenceb_> maybe you could like do some maths and work it out 2016-05-20T15:17:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T15:21:50 < dongs> yes but 2016-05-20T15:21:55 < dongs> even if I did 2016-05-20T15:22:02 < dongs> witout testing i wouldnt know if it still works or not 2016-05-20T15:35:43 < qyx> mhm 2016-05-20T15:36:15 < qyx> PaulFertser: is it possible to use openocd to program multiple devices simultaneously? (with multiple programmers) 2016-05-20T15:36:23 < qyx> I dodn't find anything useful on the internets 2016-05-20T15:37:47 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T15:41:23 < daey> qyx: isnt the communication done through spi? 2016-05-20T15:41:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T15:42:06 < daey> well i guess theoretically it would work 2016-05-20T15:46:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T15:52:11 < qyx> I mean with multiple USB programmers (stlinkv2) connected to a hub 2016-05-20T15:52:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-20T15:52:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T15:54:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-255.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-20T15:55:16 < Rob235> damn, cracked the glass of my vaping tank 2016-05-20T15:55:52 < Rob235> why does the included replacement glass have to be frosted 2016-05-20T16:10:25 < akaWolf> someone work with mifare? 2016-05-20T16:14:12 < Tectu> dongs, emeb, any chance to make diptrace show the paste layer? 2016-05-20T16:14:26 < Tectu> I see it in the exported gerber, but not in the editor itself although the layer is marked as 'visible' 2016-05-20T16:18:08 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T16:18:20 < timemob> holy fuck 2016-05-20T16:19:08 < timemob> orcad install steals .txt file association and opens it with pspice 2016-05-20T16:19:30 < timemob> ya because everyone wants to open text files with their gay tools 2016-05-20T16:19:32 < Laurenceb_> http://blog.emfcamp.org/post/144514906298/tilda-mk%CF%80-the-hackable-conference-badge-that 2016-05-20T16:19:54 < Laurenceb_> lul cc3100 2016-05-20T16:20:01 < timemob> and they don't even do it right cuz they pop-up the gay license box which fucks up ole 2016-05-20T16:21:00 < Laurenceb_> board looks quite pro but cc3100 is aids 2016-05-20T16:27:13 < Rob235> stop giving nicknames to your penis 2016-05-20T16:28:46 < Laurenceb_> trolld 2016-05-20T16:29:02 < Laurenceb_> should have used the esp thing 2016-05-20T16:33:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-20T16:36:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T16:37:33 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T16:38:08 < metRo_> I'm controlling a dc motor using a h-bridge, I hace two signals from stm32, pwm and dir 2016-05-20T16:39:10 < metRo_> however if I need to power the h-bridge after the micro boot up otherway the dc motor start to sping while the micro doesn't boot up 2016-05-20T16:39:25 < dongs> why 2016-05-20T16:39:27 < metRo_> the same happen when I do "monitor reset halt" on gdp 2016-05-20T16:39:32 < dongs> is there not enable/something pin 2016-05-20T16:39:43 < dongs> on the bridge driver ic 2016-05-20T16:40:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-20T16:41:00 < metRo_> dongs: yes, but couldn't I define the io state of these pins on reset? 2016-05-20T16:41:10 < dongs> yes, by using a pullup/down resistor 2016-05-20T16:43:44 < metRo_> BTW all the IOs are low on reset, right? 2016-05-20T16:43:50 < dongs> nope 2016-05-20T16:43:55 < dongs> they're high-Z. 2016-05-20T16:44:09 < dongs> as in, analog inputs 2016-05-20T16:44:23 < dongs> actively driving everything low at startup would be a bad thing 2016-05-20T16:58:11 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@office1.tanecpraha.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T17:11:22 < Laurenceb_> https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/May/20/LiveLeak-dot-com-7cc_1463745950-LiveLeak-dot-com-169_1463071610-vita-zav_1463747386.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd1954a41ded4f5a4&ec_rate=230 2016-05-20T17:11:33 < Laurenceb_> waifu 2016-05-20T17:16:49 < timemob> no. 2016-05-20T17:29:11 < dongs> http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36340225 good riddance 2016-05-20T17:30:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T17:33:13 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T17:34:54 < Rob235> they planted the wrong kind of trees on my street and the roots are fucking with the water lines, so they decided while they were fixing that to do a fancy repave of the whole street with brick design and shit (it's somewhat of a main street). so tired of the construction... 2016-05-20T17:35:10 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T17:41:23 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T17:41:24 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T17:41:50 < daey> could it be that st-flash is kinda shitty? 2016-05-20T17:43:05 < daey> im getting very strange results. atm i cant flash at all because apparently the device id doesnt match. holding down the reset button surprisingly lets me flash.. sometimes the flashing is 'verified' but the program doesnt run, a second flash suddenly brings everything to life 2016-05-20T17:44:08 -!- pich [d4ea2487@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.234.36.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-20T17:44:08 < qyx> how long are your wires 2016-05-20T17:44:23 < daey> qyx: what wires? the usb cable? 2016-05-20T17:44:40 < daey> im working with a nucleo board 2016-05-20T17:44:42 < qyx> no, swd/jtag 2016-05-20T17:44:45 < qyx> uh 2016-05-20T17:44:46 < qyx> ok 2016-05-20T17:44:47 < daey> :P 2016-05-20T17:45:56 < daey> the best thing is. yesterday everything worked. i didnt shut anything down. nothing changed. today, wrong id :"D 2016-05-20T17:48:13 < qyx> cosmic rays maybe if you use no shielding 2016-05-20T17:51:22 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ulkzrsyegdgdtruv] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T17:52:38 < daey> qyx: could be, but I dont think im that hot. 2016-05-20T17:58:55 < timemob> blame open sores 2016-05-20T18:00:33 < daey> apparently something wrecked the chip. no idea what needs to be done to do that. i was able to fix it by shorting BOOT0 to VDD, then RESET, then st-flash erase 2016-05-20T18:10:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.146] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T18:17:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T18:20:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-20T18:23:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-20T18:33:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T18:41:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.242] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T18:42:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T18:42:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T18:50:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T18:53:07 < Laurenceb_> lul cosmic rays 2016-05-20T18:53:42 < Laurenceb_> I saw a cosmic ray detector once, on a uni tour 2016-05-20T18:54:05 < Laurenceb_> then the guy who built it punched the tour guide in the face, funtimes 2016-05-20T18:55:29 < Laurenceb_> it went something like "here we see cosmic ray detector built by loser basement dweller".. "dude he's behind you" .. "smack" 2016-05-20T18:56:45 < Laurenceb_> uni tours always seem to be run by a bunch of jocks 2016-05-20T19:00:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T19:00:54 < Rob235> guess what just came in the mail 2016-05-20T19:02:18 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-20T19:02:44 < jpa-> Rob235: your new waifu? 2016-05-20T19:03:09 < Laurenceb_> get pumping 2016-05-20T19:03:21 < Rob235> cx30 2016-05-20T19:03:45 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/3dvp4l/japanese_girl_gets_vacuum_packed/ 2016-05-20T19:14:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T19:19:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T19:19:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T19:47:02 < lorenzo> I'm debugging a beautiful piece of industrial machinery which just halted 2016-05-20T19:47:10 < lorenzo> this thing runs on a embedded Debian linux installed in .. 2003 2016-05-20T19:47:50 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T19:48:11 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2nBBdnMI9kQ 2016-05-20T19:48:17 < Laurenceb_> devops culture is needed 2016-05-20T19:49:37 < lorenzo> lol why the hell is a woman talking about code 2016-05-20T19:50:02 < Laurenceb_> dats sexisssstttt 2016-05-20T19:50:08 < Laurenceb_> *triggered* 2016-05-20T19:50:39 < Laurenceb_> actually she is talking buzzword bingo 2016-05-20T19:50:47 < Laurenceb_> WTF 2016-05-20T19:51:03 < Laurenceb_> my tricity bill is called "Help beat Cancer 2016" 2016-05-20T19:51:12 < Laurenceb_> whyyy 2016-05-20T19:53:11 < Ecco> Why Altium puts heat relieves on GND plane vias? how can I remove them? 2016-05-20T19:53:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.114] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:03:24 < zyp> plane connect style in design rules 2016-05-20T20:04:20 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:05:35 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:05:54 < Ecco> oh, yes, thanks! 2016-05-20T20:06:07 < Ecco> Also, is there an easy way to visualize unrouted net violations? 2016-05-20T20:06:16 < Ecco> The list by itself isn't very helfup 2016-05-20T20:06:32 < Rickta59> blah blah blah .. what a crap video 2016-05-20T20:07:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:07:51 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-20T20:07:55 < Ecco> Wait that was a woman? 2016-05-20T20:08:14 < zyp> Ecco, clock the violation in the list 2016-05-20T20:08:19 < zyp> click* 2016-05-20T20:08:51 < Ecco> yeah 2016-05-20T20:08:55 < Ecco> it doesnt' highlight anything 2016-05-20T20:09:03 < Ecco> (I'm using the "messages" tab) 2016-05-20T20:09:21 < zyp> idk, usually you get error markers 2016-05-20T20:10:31 < zyp> Laurenceb_, if you're into that shit, I've heard japan makes lots of vacuum bed porn 2016-05-20T20:10:43 < Laurenceb_> "heard" 2016-05-20T20:11:00 < zyp> read? 2016-05-20T20:11:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T20:11:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:12:35 < englishman> Laurenceb_: is there any funny trollvideos/posts to nasaforums today 2016-05-20T20:12:43 < englishman> your trolling is very low quality at the moment 2016-05-20T20:12:54 < Laurenceb_> I apologise 2016-05-20T20:13:10 < Laurenceb_> nasaforums have degenerated into shitposting 2016-05-20T20:13:10 < englishman> i accept your apology 2016-05-20T20:13:33 < englishman> wasnt it already shitposting 2016-05-20T20:13:51 < englishman> any cool theories on pprune about what happend to that egyptair plane 2016-05-20T20:14:26 < Ecco> Weird, error markers are only visible if I zoom in 2016-05-20T20:14:29 < Ecco> wich is kinda usless 2016-05-20T20:15:02 < englishman> I have been saying this since MH370 and AirAsia....why not fit GPS spot locators in the tail of aircraft? The type that hikers use are waterproof, report every minute (could be set to 10 seconds) and could be attached to an uninterruptable power supply in the tail. 2016-05-20T20:15:07 < englishman> everyones got an idea 2016-05-20T20:17:40 < zyp> because that's basically what the ELTs already are? 2016-05-20T20:18:02 < englishman> yes, and you can download gps data for this flight, in .csv 2016-05-20T20:18:07 < englishman> up until the moment you can't 2016-05-20T20:18:20 < englishman> should have used hikers gps with stickytape 2016-05-20T20:18:32 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:18:46 < englishman> 2am in japan 2016-05-20T20:20:17 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:23:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:31:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.114] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-20T20:33:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-20T20:45:48 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-20T20:49:29 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-20T20:53:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T20:56:31 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-20T21:04:44 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T21:07:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T21:13:28 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-20T21:13:50 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@office1.tanecpraha.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T21:23:00 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T21:24:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-20T21:26:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T22:08:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-20T22:13:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T22:28:21 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:ac96:6650:4868:e4cb] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T22:47:11 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T22:47:33 < Rob235> ohsix: I got my cx30 2016-05-20T22:48:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-20T22:57:29 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@167.88.22.231] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T23:01:35 < Rob235> I cut my hand :) 2016-05-20T23:03:36 < Rob235> I need to go into a bigger room to adjust the settings. I've also never flown a copter before so I freaked out a bit when it took off and wasn't going straight :) 2016-05-20T23:05:23 < Rob235> hows yours 2016-05-20T23:08:21 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-20T23:09:49 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACEkZQyCc4Y << for linuxphobists ;D 2016-05-20T23:55:41 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-20T23:59:10 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@office1.tanecpraha.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Day changed Sat May 21 2016 2016-05-21T00:07:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T00:14:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T00:17:11 < upgrdman> looking at that nano pi and i noticed: 2016-05-21T00:17:30 < upgrdman> for screw holes, is it better to leave bare FR4, or a big via with big anus ring? 2016-05-21T00:18:25 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-21T00:23:50 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T00:28:49 < Tectu> "anus ring" 2016-05-21T00:38:43 < englishman> anus talk always brings out the .ch 2016-05-21T00:44:32 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T00:47:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T00:48:23 < Tectu> hah :D 2016-05-21T01:05:33 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-21T01:06:13 < Rob235> https://www.leafly.com/hybrid/sunset-sherbert 2016-05-21T01:06:45 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T01:11:08 < upgrdman_> http://imgur.com/e2c78To 2016-05-21T01:11:11 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-05-21T01:13:44 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/krxigG5.gifv 2016-05-21T01:21:31 < Laurenceb_> I'm grepping 2016-05-21T01:22:10 < Laurenceb_> /media/ACER_HDD/Documents and Settings/Carl/Desktop/lesbian-orgy-fingering.mpg 2016-05-21T01:22:20 < Laurenceb_> what could that possibly be 2016-05-21T01:22:56 < Laurenceb_> loonix gives me the confidence to mount random hard drives 2016-05-21T01:25:57 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T01:26:19 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/FXWABVz 2016-05-21T01:27:14 < Laurenceb_> looks like UK 2016-05-21T01:28:38 < lorenzo> upgrdman: http://www.tonyprycesports.co.uk/images/xl-400-badminton-shuttlecocks-6-pack-yellow-p22454-6243_zoom.jpg 2016-05-21T01:28:48 < lorenzo> def uk 2016-05-21T01:29:43 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/lRmuHD4.gif 2016-05-21T01:29:44 < upgrdman> indeed 2016-05-21T01:31:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-21T01:38:29 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@office1.tanecpraha.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T01:43:31 < Rob235> yo 2016-05-21T01:43:33 < Rob235> ohsix 2016-05-21T01:43:40 < Rob235> are there any more of those cx30's left? 2016-05-21T01:43:45 < Rob235> you have the link? 2016-05-21T01:43:55 < Rob235> thanks 2016-05-21T01:46:26 < Rob235> what does the % mean in the app 2016-05-21T01:47:10 < Rob235> ahhh good, that's what I was hoping, just went into the help screen, that's useful :) 2016-05-21T01:47:55 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-21T01:51:14 < Rob235> I have to have the pitch adjustment all the way up 2016-05-21T01:52:13 < Rob235> I'm not gonna order yet, if I can get a hang of this I'm going to get like 3 more though hah 2016-05-21T01:55:35 < Rob235> ahh, already getting a lot better 2016-05-21T01:57:58 < Rob235> just ordered 5 :) 2016-05-21T01:58:07 < Rob235> good gifts or something 2016-05-21T02:02:29 < Rob235> there's too much to think about.. I remember feeling this way when I was learning to drive. I just tried to adjust yaw and couldn't focus on everything and spiraled into the wall 2016-05-21T02:03:34 < Rob235> oh shit 2016-05-21T02:03:38 < Rob235> I bought the last orange ones! 2016-05-21T02:09:39 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-21T02:11:59 < Rob235> brb gonna fly some more 2016-05-21T02:12:04 < Rob235> let me know if you notice it come back 2016-05-21T02:12:08 < Rob235> wheneve 2016-05-21T02:12:09 < Rob235> r 2016-05-21T02:13:04 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T02:13:24 < Rob235> I lost 2 feet and broke 1 blade so far 2016-05-21T02:16:11 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T02:16:36 < Rob235> for $6 though? 2016-05-21T02:16:44 < Rob235> its fun 2016-05-21T02:16:58 < Rob235> can't wait to fly my hex 2016-05-21T02:18:27 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T02:19:04 < Rob235> yea its good practice 2016-05-21T02:24:29 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T02:24:33 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@office1.tanecpraha.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-21T02:25:51 < Rob235> I should keep all 6 of them, that way I can fly continuously. when the last battery is about to die, the first battery will be done charging :) 2016-05-21T02:48:21 < Laurenceb_> https://artech.space/ 2016-05-21T02:53:12 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:ac96:6650:4868:e4cb] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-21T02:59:31 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-21T02:59:50 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T03:03:03 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-21T03:09:44 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-21T03:09:52 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T03:22:44 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-21T03:28:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T03:35:50 < Ultrasauce> nxp can attach my package any day 2016-05-21T03:43:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T03:49:44 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-21T03:54:12 < Laurenceb_> https://artech.space/ <- hot from the random startup generator 2016-05-21T03:55:14 < Laurenceb_> lul @ Maxwell's equations 2016-05-21T03:57:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T03:59:34 < Rob235> dongs: I bought the last 5 orange quads 2016-05-21T04:02:19 < Laurenceb_> https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/05/20/2119224/ai-will-create-useless-class-of-human-predicts-bestselling-historian 2016-05-21T04:02:30 < Laurenceb_> , whiling away our days off our nuts and drugs, with VR headsets strapped to our faces 2016-05-21T04:02:37 < Laurenceb_> I do that already with IRC 2016-05-21T04:04:23 < timemob> Rob, really? 2016-05-21T04:04:29 < timemob> are they actually out? 2016-05-21T04:04:53 < timemob> cuz whenever someone bought they just increase remaining 2016-05-21T04:08:35 < Rob235> orange said sold out 2016-05-21T04:08:44 < Rob235> when I went to check a spec of something 2016-05-21T04:08:47 < timemob> cool 2016-05-21T04:08:54 < Rob235> 89% sold or something 2016-05-21T04:08:59 < Rob235> with just yellow available 2016-05-21T04:09:05 < timemob> yellow is 8. something 2016-05-21T04:09:08 < Rob235> yea 2016-05-21T04:09:19 < timemob> like it makes a difference 2016-05-21T04:09:31 < Rob235> I don't know if you saw before, I got one orange today and it was better than expected so I ordered the 5 more 2016-05-21T04:09:37 < timemob> right 2016-05-21T04:09:43 < timemob> did same yesterday 2016-05-21T04:09:51 < Rob235> ahh nice 2016-05-21T04:10:07 < Rob235> takes forever to charge though 2016-05-21T04:10:18 < timemob> that is truly what zano tried to be for a fraction of cost 2016-05-21T04:10:43 < timemob> the USB thing charges at 0.5C 2016-05-21T04:10:48 < timemob> 400mA 2016-05-21T04:10:58 < timemob> it's 700mAh batt 2016-05-21T04:11:05 < timemob> so two hours right there 2016-05-21T04:11:21 < Rob235> maybe it just feels like longer, it's the first full charge 2016-05-21T04:11:45 < timemob> just use turdugy cgarger at like 1A 2016-05-21T04:11:47 < Rob235> I thought it's been 2 hours but now that I think about it nope 2016-05-21T04:11:56 < timemob> are you monotony 2016-05-21T04:11:59 < timemob> errr 2016-05-21T04:12:16 < timemob> are you monitoring current 2016-05-21T04:12:28 < timemob> or just stuck in USB 2016-05-21T04:12:30 < Rob235> nope, just plugged it in to my usb hub 2016-05-21T04:12:58 < timemob> i have it on my supercharger with current readout 2016-05-21T04:13:08 < timemob> helps to know what it's doing 2016-05-21T04:13:14 < Ultrasauce> bet that usb charger will happily turn it into a little hydrogen balloon too 2016-05-21T04:13:29 < Rob235> yea i should invest in one 2016-05-21T04:13:32 < timemob> maybe your shitty hub can't even provide 400ma 2016-05-21T04:13:41 < Rob235> I gotta help gf make dinner though, be back later 2016-05-21T04:13:54 < timemob> don't you have a turdugy for your drone trash 2016-05-21T04:13:55 < Rob235> its powered, it provides 1A to 6 ports and 2A to the 7th 2016-05-21T04:14:36 < timemob> so it has a 8A@5v pretty brick? 2016-05-21T04:14:43 < timemob> power 2016-05-21T04:14:52 < timemob> fuck new Google keyboard 2016-05-21T04:15:10 < timemob> it auto changes shit after I type it 2016-05-21T04:15:29 < timemob> not to mention the new faggot color scheme 2016-05-21T04:15:38 < timemob> of vomit gray or faggot white 2016-05-21T04:15:42 < Ultrasauce> i hate that thing 2016-05-21T04:15:51 < timemob> it's awful 2016-05-21T04:16:03 < Ultrasauce> the speech to text is entertaining though 2016-05-21T04:16:11 < timemob> do what 2016-05-21T04:16:23 < timemob> you mean voice typing? 2016-05-21T04:16:26 < Ultrasauce> ya 2016-05-21T04:16:37 < timemob> i use that in car a lot, works fine 2016-05-21T04:16:50 < timemob> but it's not Google keyboard specific 2016-05-21T04:17:13 < timemob> any other keyboard can bring that up 2016-05-21T04:20:19 < Laurenceb_> bridging the gap between quadrotors and on-orbit observation. 2016-05-21T04:20:31 < Laurenceb_> yup thats a relevant gap 2016-05-21T04:21:08 < Ultrasauce> nice 2016-05-21T04:21:19 < Laurenceb_> troll reddit is nice https://voat.co/v/IAMA/comments/1052710 2016-05-21T04:21:32 < Rob235> timemob: just looked, the usb hub is 6 amps overall 2016-05-21T04:22:09 < Ultrasauce> Laurenceb_ why are all your links shit now 2016-05-21T04:22:14 < Ultrasauce> i remember them being entertaining 2016-05-21T04:22:18 < timemob> okay. my shitty china thing drops out after 1.3A around 2016-05-21T04:22:25 < Laurenceb_> I must work harder 2016-05-21T04:22:30 < Rob235> hmm but the supply says 3 amps heh 2016-05-21T04:22:41 < timemob> voltage goes below 4.5v lolol 2016-05-21T04:23:07 < timemob> that's why super charger pro will be a huge success 2016-05-21T04:23:11 < Rob235> http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charging-Adapter-Included-VL812-B2/dp/B014ZQ07NE?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 2016-05-21T04:23:17 < timemob> 90w AC adapter laptop brick 2016-05-21T04:23:29 < timemob> and 8 ports 2016-05-21T04:39:18 < Ultrasauce> the deans connector is how you know they're serious 2016-05-21T04:52:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-21T04:54:04 < dongs> heh anker 2016-05-21T04:54:10 < dongs> aidshub 2016-05-21T04:54:16 < dongs> and not even individual port power buttons? 2016-05-21T04:54:27 < dongs> i gotta decide if i want that on supercharger or a soft button 2016-05-21T05:02:27 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T05:03:42 < Shavik> Opinions on I2S vs PDM output mems mics? 2016-05-21T05:09:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T05:09:57 < emeb_mac> i2s requires less DSP to make it usable but requires a free i2s port 2016-05-21T05:10:33 < emeb_mac> pdm needs to be resampled / filtered if you want to do anything with it 2016-05-21T05:18:37 < Shavik> Well I'm using an STM32F4 so it has 2 I2S ports 2016-05-21T05:18:45 < Shavik> Thought about using 1 for the stereo mics and 1 for the speaker out 2016-05-21T05:19:00 < Shavik> But I can't figure out if I can sample this Knowles I2S mic at 16kHz 2016-05-21T05:19:15 < Shavik> if I can only do higher then I'd still have another step to reduce it to 16 2016-05-21T05:19:23 < Shavik> so might as well go with PDM at this point right? 2016-05-21T05:20:59 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T05:37:16 < Shavik> I'm looking for 16kHz max 2016-05-21T05:37:22 < Shavik> I'm going to be piping the audio into a SIP system 2016-05-21T05:37:36 < Shavik> so anything more will be lost anyway so might as well save my retransmission bandwidth since it'll be lost 2016-05-21T05:37:41 < Shavik> Right 2016-05-21T05:38:42 < Shavik> InvenSense has an I2S mic that can do as low as 8kHz out but it's double the price at $4 which is frustrating 2016-05-21T05:39:30 < Shavik> I'm not very happy with our current ECM's performance and looking for a complete digital solution 2016-05-21T05:41:04 < Shavik> Given their size, digital output (noise immunity), they seemed like a good match 2016-05-21T05:46:03 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-21T05:47:04 < Shavik> Thanks for the link ohsix. appreciate the comments 2016-05-21T05:49:27 < dongs> i see autism is in progress, as usual 2016-05-21T05:49:37 < dongs> half screen of one guy talking to himself 2016-05-21T05:49:37 < Shavik> full swing 2016-05-21T05:49:41 < dongs> then thanking autism6 2016-05-21T05:51:02 < dongs> been a while since i freelanced 2016-05-21T05:51:03 < dongs> lets see 2016-05-21T05:51:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Simple-Arduino-Bootloader-Modification/ 2016-05-21T05:51:37 < Shavik> Sorry you're lonely dongs 2016-05-21T05:51:55 < Shavik> Looks like you're looking for lunch money again? 2016-05-21T05:52:02 < dongs> yes 2016-05-21T05:52:07 < Shavik> Sorry to hear 2016-05-21T05:53:47 < dongs> how are you connecting STM32 to SIP? 2016-05-21T05:53:50 < dongs> lwip or somethin? 2016-05-21T05:54:16 < dongs> or is this just usb audio thingy 2016-05-21T05:55:10 < Shavik> Two boards. One has the audio front end. the other end receives that PCM audio from the remote and uses USB to forward to a SIP stack on an embedded linux controller 2016-05-21T05:55:30 < Shavik> Think speakerphone / intercom 2016-05-21T05:55:49 < Shavik> unfortunately something off the shelf doesn't work as it's gotta be integrated very tightly with our existing application 2016-05-21T05:55:56 < Shavik> But due to UL it still has to be separate. fun times 2016-05-21T05:58:57 < dongs> https://world.tmall.com/item/44123182231.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.Wgc6Cl any idea what molex this is a clone fo 2016-05-21T05:59:51 < Shavik> >welcome to my shop wish you have a pleasant shopping 2016-05-21T06:00:01 < dongs> does it really say that 2016-05-21T06:00:03 < dongs> oh, on top lol 2016-05-21T06:01:40 < dongs> 38 remaining with my spec on digikey 2016-05-21T06:01:43 < dongs> looking good 2016-05-21T06:09:32 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T06:13:34 < dongs> flyback: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-05-21T06:13:45 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node237.13.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T06:23:16 < zauslande> Is this Santa complaining about the elves again? 2016-05-21T06:42:42 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T06:47:54 < englishman> thats funny flyback i just saw this movie like wednesday 2016-05-21T06:48:11 < englishman> having a lot of baader-meinhof syndrome this week 2016-05-21T07:01:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T07:19:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T07:23:34 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T07:27:50 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T07:27:50 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-21T07:37:06 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T08:14:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T08:15:04 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node237.13.251.72.1dial.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-21T08:15:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T08:18:03 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774bab.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T08:19:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Now if you will excuse me, I have a giant ball of oil to throw out my window] 2016-05-21T08:19:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-21T08:36:10 < dongs> PeterM: any china qi stuff to recommend? 2016-05-21T08:39:07 < dongs> 5W tx 2016-05-21T08:42:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-21T08:42:57 < ReadError> did dongs unignore you? 2016-05-21T08:43:15 < dongs> why would i 2016-05-21T08:43:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T08:44:28 < ReadError> I duno just see him responding to your stuff 2016-05-21T08:44:44 < dongs> 14:44 Ignorance List: 2016-05-21T08:44:44 < dongs> 14:44 1 #osu: JOINS QUITS 2016-05-21T08:44:44 < dongs> 14:44 2 ohsix: ALL 2016-05-21T08:44:58 < dongs> maybe he just doesnt get it 2016-05-21T08:54:12 < _ohsix> i don't get it 2016-05-21T08:57:27 < dongs> 14:57 Ignoring ALL from *ohsix*!*@* 2016-05-21T09:01:15 < ReadError> it? 2016-05-21T09:05:37 < ReadError> oh i duno 2016-05-21T09:18:34 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T09:25:06 < dongs> ReadError: did you get your cx30 2016-05-21T09:25:12 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-21T09:25:18 < dongs> how is lag? 2016-05-21T09:25:29 < ReadError> just got it yesterday, not fucked with it 2016-05-21T09:25:31 < dongs> see my blog in other channel 2016-05-21T09:25:31 < dongs> ah 2016-05-21T09:25:35 < dongs> its fuckign weird 2016-05-21T09:25:42 < dongs> on tegra the lag is like 2 seconds 2016-05-21T09:25:50 < dongs> realtime on samdung 2016-05-21T09:25:59 < dongs> bonus on tegra: doesnt lockup 2016-05-21T09:26:05 < ReadError> oh hmm 2016-05-21T09:26:20 < dongs> you better try it with your GAYPHONE 2016-05-21T09:26:26 < ReadError> goebish said something about you can use the cx10 controller protocol 2016-05-21T09:26:34 < ReadError> so i can use the taranis 2016-05-21T09:26:45 < dongs> to do what? 2016-05-21T09:26:50 < ReadError> also: no way in hell im installing this chinese software on my iphone 2016-05-21T09:26:52 < dongs> PPM or something? 2016-05-21T09:26:56 < dongs> shrug 2016-05-21T09:27:03 < dongs> ive not loked what control is over that 3 pin thing 2016-05-21T09:27:09 < dongs> im gonna g uess ppm/vbat/gnd 2016-05-21T09:27:11 < ReadError> nrf24 yea 2016-05-21T09:27:19 < dongs> but theres no nrf24 on there 2016-05-21T09:27:24 < dongs> it just has that wifi marvell breakout 2016-05-21T09:27:29 < dongs> or is tehre nrf on main pcb? 2016-05-21T09:27:30 < ReadError> nah in the quad 2016-05-21T09:27:36 < ReadError> not the wifi thing 2016-05-21T09:27:48 < dongs> no shit lol 2016-05-21T09:57:10 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-21T10:00:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-21T10:09:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-84ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T10:10:56 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T10:13:08 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-21T10:13:19 < dongs> one pin of that 3pin thing is 4.17V one is 3.3V 2016-05-21T10:13:27 < dongs> i guess vbat and uart or soemthing? 2016-05-21T10:13:33 < dongs> thought it would be ppm 2016-05-21T10:20:43 < ReadError> dongs do you see the nrf24 shit on the pcb? 2016-05-21T10:20:54 < ReadError> i dont think it has ppm in 2016-05-21T10:21:35 < dongs> itz not ppm 2016-05-21T10:21:36 < dongs> just uart 2016-05-21T10:21:41 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/vcdcKgz.png 2016-05-21T10:23:00 < dongs> i duno aboutn rf 2016-05-21T10:23:06 < dongs> not taken apart the main plastic shit yet 2016-05-21T10:23:16 < ReadError> ah you are just dicking with the wifi module? 2016-05-21T10:23:50 < dongs> man it gets hot 2016-05-21T10:24:19 < dongs> 65grams 2016-05-21T10:24:22 < dongs> this thing is just like zano 2016-05-21T10:24:24 < dongs> except it works 2016-05-21T10:26:21 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T10:30:39 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-21T10:34:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.199] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T10:44:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T10:44:48 < dongs> ReadError: 230mA draw by wifi module @ 4V 2016-05-21T10:45:01 < ReadError> haha damn 2016-05-21T10:45:06 < ReadError> wonder how much power they are pumpin 2016-05-21T10:45:16 < dongs> well 2016-05-21T10:45:45 < dongs> i could probably actually tell you if i can get a u.fl to F thing and stick it on my specturm analyzer 2016-05-21T10:46:35 < dongs> anyway with freezing on my phone.. its kinda a crapshoot 2016-05-21T10:46:38 < dongs> gonna try on lg g2 i guess 2016-05-21T10:53:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T10:56:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T11:03:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T11:05:38 < dongs> ok no lag on G2 2016-05-21T11:05:42 < dongs> and hasnt frozen yet 2016-05-21T11:06:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T11:06:08 < dongs> ya not freezing 2016-05-21T11:06:09 < dongs> nice 2016-05-21T11:06:51 < dongs> 240mA while non-freezing streaming at 4V 2016-05-21T11:12:16 < dongs> i guess its jsut tarsh on S6 for some reason 2016-05-21T11:12:20 < dongs> and laggy on tegra 2016-05-21T11:12:26 < dongs> havent found my atom tablet yet to check 2016-05-21T11:20:43 < ReadError> odd so the module changes when it freezes on the other end? 2016-05-21T11:22:09 < dongs> hm? 2016-05-21T11:23:42 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ulkzrsyegdgdtruv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-21T11:24:31 < dongs> nah it jumps around in power consumption a bit 2016-05-21T11:24:37 < dongs> 233 -> 250m around 2016-05-21T11:24:43 < dongs> i duno if it depends on motion or wat 2016-05-21T11:25:00 < dongs> had it streaming for about 10 mins now wihtout freeze to G2 2016-05-21T11:29:31 < dongs> http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/a-bomb-survivors-want-obama-to-meet-apologize-in-hiroshima lol 2016-05-21T11:34:29 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T11:36:18 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@ppp121-44-66-70.bras1.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T11:41:35 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@ppp121-44-102-159.bras1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T11:49:35 < ReadError> is it udp ? 2016-05-21T11:50:25 < ReadError> also have you tried to portscan it ? see if anything interesting is going on 2016-05-21T11:52:11 < ReadError> wouldnt need to be on the phone 2016-05-21T11:52:18 < ReadError> any laptop should work w/ the right adapter 2016-05-21T11:52:34 -!- pietdv [~pietdv@ugent.devae.re] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T11:52:36 < ReadError> its just wifi 2016-05-21T11:52:56 < ReadError> nah wireshark works for that too 2016-05-21T11:53:15 < ReadError> it treats it like any other adapter (ethernet) 2016-05-21T11:55:47 < ReadError> needs to go into promiscuous and your in like flynn 2016-05-21T11:56:00 < ReadError> the alfa usb ones are pretty okay 2016-05-21T11:57:28 < ReadError> it looks old 2016-05-21T11:57:50 < ReadError> a lot less shit spread everywhere 2016-05-21T12:03:09 < Sync> because shiny 2016-05-21T12:03:24 < ReadError> whats funny, reflective tape doesnt work on IR 2016-05-21T12:04:04 < ReadError> or atleast the shit I got 2016-05-21T12:05:00 < dongs> wot 2016-05-21T12:05:06 < dongs> why cant you just connect a laptop to it? 2016-05-21T12:05:09 < dongs> the camera is AP 2016-05-21T12:05:12 < dongs> not your phone 2016-05-21T12:06:23 < ReadError> dongs yea thats what I was sayin 2016-05-21T12:06:51 < ReadError> ohsix said theres something on 80 an 8888 2016-05-21T12:07:10 < dongs> looks liek i can connect 2 clients to it 2016-05-21T12:07:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.94] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T12:07:29 < ReadError> wonder if theres some console 2016-05-21T12:07:49 < ReadError> wonder how the latency is usin a laptop 2016-05-21T12:08:24 < dongs> lol 2016-05-21T12:08:25 < ReadError> i should grab mine and dick with it 2016-05-21T12:08:28 < Steffanx> Who the price of the copter when up and is still not shipping to dutchland -_- 2016-05-21T12:08:29 < dongs> :80 is just some ap thing 2016-05-21T12:08:33 < dongs> to set its name ahn shit 2016-05-21T12:08:40 < dongs> set SSID 2016-05-21T12:08:41 < dongs> and pass 2016-05-21T12:09:22 < ReadError> chrome://history it 2016-05-21T12:09:51 < ReadError> tell me what you remember about the name or url, i grep 2016-05-21T12:09:51 < Steffanx> sleepy time? 2016-05-21T12:10:21 < ReadError> oh pfff 2016-05-21T12:11:56 < ReadError> http://img.banggood.com/images/upload/2014/11/SKU182244_7.jpg 2016-05-21T12:11:57 < ReadError> awesome 2016-05-21T12:12:04 < ReadError> this means I can use a a real TX on it 2016-05-21T12:12:55 < ReadError> holy shit, these are from 2014 2016-05-21T12:13:19 < dongs> RIP zano 2016-05-21T12:14:04 < Steffanx> zano did HD video and was able to follow you. This one does none of that. 2016-05-21T12:14:23 < dongs> "did" 2016-05-21T12:14:25 < mitrax> Steffanx: was "supposed to" 2016-05-21T12:14:25 < ReadError> i imagine the module just passes serial over to the quad for rc cojntrol 2016-05-21T12:14:26 < dongs> no, it didnt 2016-05-21T12:14:35 < dongs> zano video was worse than this stuff by far 2016-05-21T12:14:38 < dongs> and super laggy 2016-05-21T12:14:43 < dongs> there's almost no latencyt on this thing 2016-05-21T12:14:56 < Steffanx> lol you guys. :P 2016-05-21T12:15:19 < ReadError> crazy they did this in 2014 though 2016-05-21T12:15:30 < ReadError> compared to when zano launched 2016-05-21T12:16:22 < mitrax> Steffanx: i didn't get the irony sorry :) 2016-05-21T12:17:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T12:19:00 < ReadError> i ordered 3 more 2016-05-21T12:19:13 < ReadError> good value, find some use for the wifi shit 2016-05-21T12:19:25 < Steffanx> You guys are spoiled much. I have to pay for 3 to get one -_- 2016-05-21T12:19:34 < ReadError> tax? 2016-05-21T12:19:57 < Steffanx> Nah, it ships world wide but excludes 99.9% of the countries. 2016-05-21T12:21:05 < ReadError> Excludes: Alaska/Hawaii, APO/FPO, US Protectorates, Africa, Central America and Caribbean, Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela, Bermuda, Greenland, Mexico, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Bahrain, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan 2016-05-21T12:21:05 < ReadError> Republic, Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, Georgia, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Maldives, Mongolia, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, American Samoa, Cook Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Guam, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, New Caledonia, New Zealand, Niue, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Wallis and Futuna, Western Samoa, Albania, Andorra, 2016-05-21T12:21:05 < ReadError> Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guernsey, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Jersey, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Sweden, Switzerland, 2016-05-21T12:21:05 < ReadError> Ukraine, United Kingdom, Vatican City State, Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Philippines, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam 2016-05-21T12:21:11 < dongs> racist 2016-05-21T12:21:16 < ReadError> hahaha holy shit 2016-05-21T12:21:27 < ReadError> no kidding 2016-05-21T12:21:35 < mitrax> ahahahah 2016-05-21T12:26:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-21T12:26:41 < ReadError> super stoned and about to upgrade some SAN firmware 2016-05-21T12:26:45 < ReadError> what could go wrong 2016-05-21T12:27:58 < ReadError> someone decided it needed to be done 2016-05-21T12:28:23 < mitrax> "if it's not broken ..." 2016-05-21T12:31:26 < ReadError> i cant remember my password to get the release notes 2016-05-21T12:31:31 < ReadError> imagine theres some reason 2016-05-21T12:32:04 < ReadError> how is level mode? 2016-05-21T12:32:10 < dongs> it flies ok 2016-05-21T12:32:13 < dongs> controls are impossible on phone tho 2016-05-21T12:32:13 < ReadError> does it hold position okay? 2016-05-21T12:32:19 < dongs> like 5degree tilt max 2016-05-21T12:32:21 < ReadError> baro or some alt hold? 2016-05-21T12:32:23 < dongs> yes without wind its fine 2016-05-21T12:32:24 < dongs> haha no 2016-05-21T12:32:35 < dongs> once it starts blowing away youre fukt tho 2016-05-21T12:33:27 < ReadError> [05:32:29] ohsix: dongs: hit that % button 2016-05-21T12:33:37 < ReadError> [05:32:32] ohsix: default is 30% 2016-05-21T12:34:04 < dongs> ReadError: you know i have tehat shit on ignore for a reason right, i dont need others retweeting autism to me 2016-05-21T12:34:13 < dongs> jef79m said that shit was for video speed 2016-05-21T12:34:17 < dongs> didnt bother fuckign with it beyond that 2016-05-21T12:34:27 < ReadError> dongs if you have a nrf you can hack up one of those modules super easy 2016-05-21T12:34:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.94] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T12:34:44 < ReadError> but yea you prolly dont care that much 2016-05-21T12:34:49 < dongs> downloading wireshit 2016-05-21T12:34:55 < dongs> capped connect + stream on phone 2016-05-21T12:34:57 < dongs> as .pcap 2016-05-21T12:35:26 < ReadError> thats the worst part about all these cheapo toy quads 2016-05-21T12:35:34 < ReadError> the tx are always miserable to use 2016-05-21T12:35:57 < Sync> > dongs 2016-05-21T12:36:00 < Sync> > using opensores 2016-05-21T12:36:01 < Sync> plz 2016-05-21T12:36:26 < dongs> sync, microsoft network thing cant open .pcap aids 2016-05-21T12:36:27 < ReadError> devo 7e sounds perfect for this 2016-05-21T12:36:32 < ReadError> so small, so kawaii 2016-05-21T12:37:55 < dongs> heh tehy use tcp 2016-05-21T12:38:00 < dongs> not even udp 2016-05-21T12:38:00 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-21T12:38:23 < ReadError> shit they could get a pretty big performance bump goin to udp you would think 2016-05-21T12:38:31 < dongs> haha 2016-05-21T12:38:35 < dongs> UDP is used for rc control 2016-05-21T12:38:39 < dongs> i see same bytes 2016-05-21T12:38:42 < dongs> as i saw in uart capture 2016-05-21T12:38:47 < dongs> cc 80 80 00 80 00 80 33 2016-05-21T12:38:52 < Sync> > uart over udp 2016-05-21T12:38:52 < dongs> thats 8 bytes by udp 2016-05-21T12:38:53 < Sync> plz 2016-05-21T12:38:59 < ReadError> tcp for control, udp for vid would make sense 2016-05-21T12:39:00 < dongs> and vidoe stream is tcp 2016-05-21T12:39:07 < ReadError> hahaa 2016-05-21T12:39:09 < ReadError> ass backwards 2016-05-21T12:40:49 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-21T12:40:52 < dongs> its all fucking noise 2016-05-21T12:41:29 < ReadError> ? 2016-05-21T12:42:06 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/5C93kd2.png 2016-05-21T12:42:13 < dongs> the only common t hing seems to be 'ITd' header thing 2016-05-21T12:42:20 < dongs> everytthing else just looks no idea 2016-05-21T12:42:59 < dongs> udp 8895 2016-05-21T12:43:01 < dongs> listens for that RC shit 2016-05-21T12:43:06 < dongs> 8 bytes packets 2016-05-21T12:44:11 < dongs> wow 2016-05-21T12:44:15 < dongs> you can connect 2 devices to it 2016-05-21T12:44:20 < dongs> and it transmits to both 2016-05-21T12:58:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T13:02:40 < ReadError> https://github.com/DeviationTX/deviation/tree/master/doc 2016-05-21T13:05:09 < ReadError> damn up to 19dBm 2016-05-21T13:08:05 < dongs> which one is that? 2016-05-21T13:08:33 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/BL-R8782MS1-module-88W8782-wireless-network-camera-WIFI-module-marvell-program/32461031390.html 2016-05-21T13:08:45 < dongs> thats the wici trash yeah 2016-05-21T13:08:52 < dongs> thre's another chip on there 2016-05-21T13:08:58 < dongs> maybe anyka or similar shite 2016-05-21T13:13:07 < dongs> ap rename success 2016-05-21T13:13:22 < ReadError> what how 2016-05-21T13:13:29 < dongs> from cxufo shit 2016-05-21T13:13:36 < dongs> just connect to :80 on that ip and type it 2016-05-21T13:13:40 < dongs> its got a shitty web form 2016-05-21T13:14:25 < dongs> but no spaces 2016-05-21T13:14:28 < dongs> im sure 2016-05-21T13:14:31 < dongs> aehuehae 2016-05-21T13:14:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T13:19:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-21T13:43:47 < dongs> http://venturebeat.com/2016/05/20/indiegogo-to-help-bring-tech-products-to-market-with-arrow-electronics-alliance/ 2016-05-21T13:43:51 < dongs> lol wut 2016-05-21T13:46:02 < Steffanx> dongs, the ITd thing is very likely to be the header thing. ITd = 0x49 0x54 0x64(100) => where the 100 is surprisingly the package length. 2016-05-21T13:46:18 < Steffanx> more hte payload length, not the package. 2016-05-21T13:47:07 < Steffanx> After you skip the 3 bytes after the 0x64 because 4 byte little endian. 2016-05-21T13:47:20 < dongs> ah, possile, except the long 'streaming' reply from the shit is also starting wiht that, tho its possible it carries same kidna header 2016-05-21T13:47:37 < dongs> hm 00 00 01 a0 00 that almost looks like mpeg start code 2016-05-21T13:50:58 < ReadError> i duno about how video compression works, but if you cover the lens completely wouldn't you see some repeating pattern over and over? 2016-05-21T13:51:05 < dongs> haha no 2016-05-21T13:51:10 < dongs> cuz there's so much sensor noise 2016-05-21T13:51:20 < dongs> its not like youre gonna get pitchblack 2016-05-21T13:51:40 < ReadError> ya true but still more repetition than uncovered, no? 2016-05-21T13:51:53 < ReadError> nm i duno 2016-05-21T13:55:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-21T13:56:02 < Steffanx> Have no longer long in pcap format? 2016-05-21T13:58:51 < dongs> ya have. 00 00 01 stuff repeating at regular intervalsd 2016-05-21T14:00:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T14:00:47 < Steffanx> I mean semi publicly available 2016-05-21T14:10:51 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T14:16:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.251] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T14:32:41 < Steffanx> i guess that's a no P: 2016-05-21T14:34:21 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-21T14:38:18 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T14:45:01 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T14:48:12 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T14:48:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-21T14:50:56 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-21T15:13:55 < kakimir> mustache wax? any tips? 2016-05-21T15:15:50 < kakimir> first if I should forget whole thing? 2016-05-21T15:16:36 < Steffanx> No shaving. 2016-05-21T15:16:37 < Tectu> just shave it off. 2016-05-21T15:16:51 < BrainDamage> use nitric acid 2016-05-21T15:17:03 < Tectu> stop giving wrong advice. 2016-05-21T15:17:14 < Tectu> this is not ##trolling 2016-05-21T15:17:22 < kakimir> Steffanx: I do not shave yes 2016-05-21T15:17:32 < BrainDamage> btw tectu, for the record, it was indeed an ink pot 2016-05-21T15:18:03 < BrainDamage> staedtler lumocolor whiteboard market, by chance they supplied a stock here 2016-05-21T15:18:37 < BrainDamage> marker* 2016-05-21T15:18:38 < Tectu> BrainDamage, oh great, thanks for the info! 2016-05-21T15:19:03 < Steffanx> Tectu this is also no: give kakimir some advice about some totally unrelated subject. 2016-05-21T15:19:09 < Steffanx> + ## 2016-05-21T15:19:09 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-21T15:19:15 < Sync> plz stick to stm32 content 2016-05-21T15:19:25 < Steffanx> So the troll answers are totally justified. 2016-05-21T15:21:38 < Tectu> BrainDamage, hah, look what I just found in my drawer: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/6dcef11c8a0d.jpg 2016-05-21T15:21:50 < Tectu> BrainDamage, I knew that the brand "Staedtler" ringed some bells... 2016-05-21T15:24:56 < Tectu> BrainDamage, and those are indeed great whiteboard markers. love them. 2016-05-21T15:25:28 < BrainDamage> yeah, way better than the generic shit we had before 2016-05-21T15:26:04 < Sync> yeah, somebody got some cheap ones at the local bloggerspace 2016-05-21T15:26:13 < Sync> whiteboard looks super fucked now 2016-05-21T15:26:42 < kakimir> I have money 2016-05-21T15:26:43 < Tectu> the last time I saw a fucked up whiteboard is because somebody cleaned it with WD40 instead of alcohol 2016-05-21T15:27:05 < Sync> well, it cleans ok with IPA 2016-05-21T15:27:18 < Sync> but you gotta do it all the time 2016-05-21T15:28:16 < Tectu> still better than those lousy digital/virtual whiteboards 2016-05-21T15:28:26 < Sync> yeah they suck cock 2016-05-21T15:28:41 < Sync> we have an old version of those things at work 2016-05-21T15:28:53 < Sync> where it will roll the surface around 2016-05-21T15:28:56 < Sync> and scan it in the back 2016-05-21T15:29:02 < Sync> and print it out on thermopaper 2016-05-21T15:30:14 < Tectu> -_____- 2016-05-21T15:30:39 < Sync> completely useless 2016-05-21T15:31:08 < Tectu> my previous school had one that required a beamer (the board itself wasn't a display). So obviously you were always standing in front of the beamer. 2016-05-21T15:31:19 < Sync> ~projector 2016-05-21T15:31:32 < Tectu> ah sorry. "beamer" is german only right? always forget about that. 2016-05-21T15:31:35 < Sync> yes 2016-05-21T15:31:38 < Sync> same with handy 2016-05-21T15:31:51 < Tectu> well in switzerland it's even worse -> "Natel" 2016-05-21T15:32:05 < Sync> > natel 2016-05-21T15:32:06 < Steffanx> incorrect. In dutchland we use beamer too. 2016-05-21T15:32:11 < Sync> hilljews at it again 2016-05-21T15:32:14 < Tectu> dutchland doesn't count. 2016-05-21T15:32:23 < Steffanx> says the swisser. 2016-05-21T15:32:23 < Tectu> hah :D 2016-05-21T15:33:04 < Tectu> Sync, let me guess... your boss was totally proud of how modern his company was when he bough that whiteboard? 2016-05-21T15:33:18 < Sync> about 20 years ago, yes 2016-05-21T15:33:47 < Sync> but yeah 2016-05-21T15:34:03 < Sync> I mean, I guess it is useful if you want to save the whiteboard 2016-05-21T15:34:07 < Sync> but in general it just sucks 2016-05-21T15:34:12 < Tectu> yeah 2016-05-21T15:34:28 < Tectu> you should use whiteboards for drafts only anyway 2016-05-21T15:34:40 < Tectu> if you need more advanced content processing use some fancy wacom tablet thingy 2016-05-21T15:35:29 < Tectu> btw, my physics teacher is from german (Essen if I remember correctly) and he still uses over-head-projectors -___- 2016-05-21T15:35:36 < Sync> ohp ftw. 2016-05-21T15:35:48 < Steffanx> Those beamers mounted ~above the whiteboard it works pretty well imho. 2016-05-21T15:35:54 < BrainDamage> after trying them i've actually re-evaluated them 2016-05-21T15:35:58 < Steffanx> *with 2016-05-21T15:36:03 < Tectu> BrainDamage, "them" ? 2016-05-21T15:36:10 < BrainDamage> the semi transparent projectors 2016-05-21T15:36:29 < BrainDamage> you can draw with pen and paper and have translucent slides overlaid on top 2016-05-21T15:36:41 < Steffanx> BrainDamage is teaching much? 2016-05-21T15:36:55 < Tectu> uh? pen and paper? paper as in transparent plastic foils, right? 2016-05-21T15:37:07 < BrainDamage> yes, transparent foils, not teaching 2016-05-21T15:37:56 < Tectu> these things work prety well too: http://www.interactivemultitouchdisplay.com/photo/pl2142455-hdmi_1080p_wxga_5mp_digital_desktop_document_camera_dp6650a_visual_presenter_scanner.jpg 2016-05-21T15:38:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-21T15:38:39 < Tectu> but personally I think that the best solution still is a fancy wacom tablet (those with a screen behind the pen digitalizer) and a proper projector. 2016-05-21T15:38:45 < Tectu> and decent software 2016-05-21T15:38:49 < Steffanx> *beamer 2016-05-21T15:47:38 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T16:18:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T16:35:53 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdjkrqX9u8 2016-05-21T16:41:36 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T16:42:11 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T16:47:06 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-21T17:26:14 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T17:54:02 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-21T18:03:10 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-21T18:07:16 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-21T18:18:41 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T18:37:00 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-othnrydpnsdgobis] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T18:45:53 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T18:57:34 < mitrax> *yap* *yap* 2016-05-21T18:58:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T19:09:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-21T19:16:59 < mitrax> not much 2016-05-21T19:17:09 < mitrax> i haven't done shit today 2016-05-21T19:18:54 < mitrax> wha? 2016-05-21T19:20:57 < mitrax> yeah but like 20 years ago 2016-05-21T19:21:13 < mitrax> if you mean the original one 2016-05-21T19:21:30 < mitrax> oh 2016-05-21T19:28:18 < mitrax> the bastard keeps trying to escape 2016-05-21T19:29:16 * mitrax rings number 2 2016-05-21T19:34:38 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:3cee:bd28:201:5cd1] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T19:36:15 < Steffanx> Mr crt is back in business. 2016-05-21T19:37:38 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T19:38:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-3-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-21T19:41:29 < Steffanx> im wonderful. how is mr crt? 2016-05-21T19:44:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T19:46:35 < Steffanx> who is that? 2016-05-21T19:47:59 < englishman> when you troll #electronics, you only troll yourself 2016-05-21T19:49:37 < Steffanx> better bring some tarduino to them 2016-05-21T19:50:25 < englishman> whats trolling today fellow shed fans 2016-05-21T19:51:16 < Steffanx> who needs boots? 2016-05-21T19:51:20 < englishman> we have a mole problem https://i.imgur.com/DlkoWSh.gifv 2016-05-21T19:53:59 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/dcudrXn.gifv 2016-05-21T20:02:45 < englishman> such swing very oscillate wow~~ 2016-05-21T20:04:18 < kakimir> 18hours of work in 24hours - just farmer things 2016-05-21T20:04:48 < kakimir> free time all the rainy days 2016-05-21T20:06:14 < kakimir> I need to try some rainy day codings 2016-05-21T20:07:26 < kakimir> I'm rain stoned 2016-05-21T20:07:52 < BrainDamage> coding not codeining 2016-05-21T20:11:28 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-21T20:18:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.195] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T20:41:36 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGXv2J14glY 2016-05-21T20:41:39 < kakimir> musicspams 2016-05-21T20:42:10 < Steffanx> Next time spam music kakimir. 2016-05-21T20:42:35 < kakimir> I think this is quite tite track 2016-05-21T20:42:59 < Steffanx> ok, after the bad start it isnt too bad :P 2016-05-21T20:44:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T20:47:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-21T20:48:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T20:57:59 < englishman> hows winter crt 2016-05-21T20:58:14 < englishman> tshirt weather? or still in a wifebeater 2016-05-21T21:01:54 < kakimir> I found that short leather boots/shoes are really good in summertime 2016-05-21T21:10:34 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T21:13:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-21T21:14:09 < Laurenceb_> designated 2016-05-21T21:33:30 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/ nice cursor 2016-05-21T21:39:24 < Laurenceb_> https://web.archive.org/web/20150414064858/http://www.poo2loo.com/ 2016-05-21T21:40:12 < Laurenceb_> nice, looks cheap http://cuck.com/?reqp=1&reqr= 2016-05-21T21:46:46 < kakimir> these urls look safe 2016-05-21T21:50:42 < kakimir> fpv set bought 2016-05-21T21:51:06 < kakimir> better late than never 2016-05-21T21:52:13 < kakimir> will use tablet for video 2016-05-21T22:12:21 -!- fenug_ [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T22:15:18 -!- fenug_ is now known as fenugrec 2016-05-21T22:48:28 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T22:48:45 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T22:50:29 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T22:50:50 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T22:54:30 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T22:54:51 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:02:33 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T23:02:51 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:07:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T23:17:33 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:17:47 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-21T23:18:11 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:27:26 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokšt] 2016-05-21T23:28:01 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-21T23:28:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:30:41 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:33:39 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-21T23:36:31 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-21T23:37:21 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:41:21 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-21T23:41:46 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-21T23:54:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-21T23:57:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Day changed Sun May 22 2016 2016-05-22T00:07:02 < upgrdman_> anyone else notice chrome crashing more often when loading up pandora? 2016-05-22T00:07:11 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-05-22T00:07:23 < upgrdman> i dont think i have flash installed, so wtf 2016-05-22T00:12:31 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T00:13:04 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-22T00:13:09 < upgrdman> getting kinda pissed 2016-05-22T00:13:20 < upgrdman> chroma OFTEN crashed when i use it for pandora 2016-05-22T00:13:41 < upgrdman> and i only switched to chrome because ff was crashy as fuck on os x 2016-05-22T00:13:55 < upgrdman> kinda expected better from google 2016-05-22T00:16:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T00:17:04 < Ecco> Hmm, in Altium, I'd like to add a pad in the PCB that isn't in the schematics 2016-05-22T00:17:23 < Ecco> (a "debug" pad where I could easily solder a debug wire) 2016-05-22T00:17:33 < Ecco> Is there a way to tell that without altering the schematics? 2016-05-22T00:17:49 < Ecco> Otherwise Altium won't let me connect the traces (it complains about a short circuit) 2016-05-22T00:19:37 < upgrdman> well im pretty sure its pandora 2016-05-22T00:19:52 < upgrdman> cause i can reopen, only open pandora... and it shits the bed again like 75% of the time 2016-05-22T00:21:35 < Steffanx> mr dongs ignores you ;) 2016-05-22T00:22:37 < Steffanx> sure, but i just wanted to tell you so you dont have to send special link for him here 2016-05-22T00:22:42 < Steffanx> *links 2016-05-22T00:25:29 < Steffanx> oh that's why that line started with his name :P 2016-05-22T00:26:10 < Steffanx> Whatever. 2016-05-22T00:26:33 < upgrdman> ohsix, i like how they recommend that you disable ad blockers for their site 2016-05-22T00:26:43 < upgrdman> like that will fix chrome from crashing on their sitre 2016-05-22T00:28:43 < Steffanx> Does it really crash the entire browser or just the "oops this page crashed"-message upgrdman? 2016-05-22T00:29:01 < upgrdman> Steffanx, the entire browser 2016-05-22T00:29:16 < Steffanx> nice job :) 2016-05-22T00:33:42 < Laurenceb_> designated browser 2016-05-22T00:34:14 < Steffanx> designated is your new fancy word? 2016-05-22T00:34:29 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-22T00:35:00 < Laurenceb_> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/designated-shitting-streets-poo-in-the-loo 2016-05-22T00:35:50 < Steffanx> "some online communities like 4chan " nough said 2016-05-22T00:38:15 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T00:43:32 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@167.88.22.231] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-22T00:47:24 < Laurenceb_> thats some quality bantz 2016-05-22T00:49:53 < MightyPork> hey 2016-05-22T00:49:56 < MightyPork> anyone here? 2016-05-22T00:50:11 < MightyPork> trying to set up SPI, it doesn't clear TXE 2016-05-22T00:50:14 < MightyPork> what can be wrong? 2016-05-22T00:50:47 < MightyPork> periph clock is enabled, the thing should be configured fine... it's f103 2016-05-22T00:50:52 < MightyPork> f103 2016-05-22T00:52:42 < MightyPork> yea a sec 2016-05-22T00:54:24 < MightyPork> here's my code https://gist.github.com/MightyPork/37263d91947020e0010f3cd6de9b79db 2016-05-22T00:55:13 < MightyPork> it's supposed to be output only 2016-05-22T00:55:21 < MightyPork> ohsix: ^ 2016-05-22T00:56:41 < MightyPork> it hangs in that while loop waiting for TXE to go high, which never happens 2016-05-22T00:56:53 < MightyPork> (when I earlier ayd it doesnt clear TXE, I meant set ...) 2016-05-22T00:59:41 < Steffanx> Not sure if it can cause this, but no AFIO clock enabled? 2016-05-22T00:59:57 < MightyPork> ohsix that's what I believe 2016-05-22T01:00:41 < MightyPork> this is not hal, just SPL 2016-05-22T01:01:05 < MightyPork> but if it wont work I'll try going lower level 2016-05-22T01:01:23 < MightyPork> Steffanx: is that needed for AF to work? cuz usart works for me without touching the AFIO 2016-05-22T01:01:28 < MightyPork> I thought its just to remap 2016-05-22T01:03:00 < Steffanx> You might be right, long time ago since i've touch F1 MightyPork :P 2016-05-22T01:03:18 < MightyPork> ikr it's a pretty meh part, I'm used to F3 myself 2016-05-22T01:03:23 < MightyPork> but it's super cheap on ebay 2016-05-22T01:03:44 < MightyPork> so I got me two of those arduino-nano-like kits 2016-05-22T01:04:09 < MightyPork> at any rate enabling the AFIO clock didn't change anything 2016-05-22T01:04:58 < MightyPork> nice 2016-05-22T01:05:05 < MightyPork> those were like 4, but still not bad 2016-05-22T01:05:29 < karlp> MightyPork: some of the afio working stuff depends on which target, 2016-05-22T01:08:34 < MightyPork> now I'm getting 0x0020 in the SR, means MODE_FAULT if I read the bits right 2016-05-22T01:08:40 < MightyPork> so I mustve messed up some config 2016-05-22T01:10:44 < Steffanx> The best way is not to read those and just dig into the code. 2016-05-22T01:12:09 < MightyPork> yay it works now 2016-05-22T01:12:11 < MightyPork> well I guess 2016-05-22T01:12:19 < MightyPork> I see something on my scope 2016-05-22T01:12:30 < MightyPork> too fast for the poor thing 2016-05-22T01:13:34 < Steffanx> And the issue was MightyPork? 2016-05-22T01:13:47 < MightyPork> theres some prescaller config in the CR, seems to work. changed /2 to /256 and its ok 2016-05-22T01:14:03 < MightyPork> issue was it was bitching that SS was high 2016-05-22T01:14:11 < MightyPork> because I didn't select "soft SS" 2016-05-22T01:14:16 < Laurenceb_> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=354_1463749049 2016-05-22T01:14:25 < MightyPork> not sure why it cares about SS in single-line output onkly, but whatever 2016-05-22T01:14:36 < Steffanx> You punishment for using the struct init instead of doing it manually MightyPork 2016-05-22T01:14:57 < MightyPork> I earlier had bizzare bug when I *didnt* use struct init 2016-05-22T01:15:02 < MightyPork> it was some gpio 2016-05-22T01:15:09 < MightyPork> there's enum stat starts with 1 2016-05-22T01:15:12 < MightyPork> default was zero 2016-05-22T01:15:19 < Steffanx> probably forgot to initialize some field? 2016-05-22T01:15:20 < MightyPork> and it silently discarded the entire struct 2016-05-22T01:15:27 < MightyPork> yea I did 2016-05-22T01:15:35 < MightyPork> but the struct init takes care of that for me 2016-05-22T01:15:44 < MightyPork> in case I forget to set something, it's at least valid 2016-05-22T01:16:49 < MightyPork> anyway thanks for helping w debug, now time for the fun stuff 2016-05-22T01:16:58 < MightyPork> I have a large led dot matrix display with SPI drivers 2016-05-22T01:17:04 < MightyPork> so thats what this is for 2016-05-22T01:18:25 < MightyPork> they'll love you :P 2016-05-22T01:20:31 < MightyPork> what I have isn't really that big. Just wanna build like a snake game on it or something 2016-05-22T01:21:13 < MightyPork> yea 2016-05-22T01:21:23 < MightyPork> first time I'm using SPI, too. gotta start somewhere 2016-05-22T01:22:33 < MightyPork> I got a chain of 4 so thats pretty need for effects 2016-05-22T01:22:46 < MightyPork> *neat 2016-05-22T01:22:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-84ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-22T01:28:55 < Steffanx> ohsix, at least most of the modules seem to come in 10.525 GHz, the only allowed freq. in the usa( belgium and dutchland) 2016-05-22T01:35:16 < Rob235> yum morphine 2016-05-22T01:36:16 < Steffanx> Cut your fingers of with your copter? 2016-05-22T01:36:28 < Rob235> testicular torsion 2016-05-22T01:37:02 < Steffanx> More then i wanted to know. 2016-05-22T01:37:07 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-22T01:39:02 < Steffanx> ty obama care? 2016-05-22T01:39:07 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-22T01:39:44 < Rob235> yessir 2016-05-22T01:39:44 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-22T01:39:51 < Rob235> the benefit of being poor 2016-05-22T01:39:54 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T01:40:05 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T01:50:16 < Steffanx> lo 2016-05-22T01:50:16 < Steffanx> l 2016-05-22T01:52:55 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T01:53:39 < Laurenceb_> balltwistrrr 2016-05-22T02:01:51 < Rob235> this morning was possibly the most pain I've ever been in 2016-05-22T02:02:29 < Rob235> at least sustained pain 2016-05-22T02:02:41 < Rob235> 5 hours or so 2016-05-22T02:25:04 < Laurenceb_> too much info 2016-05-22T02:25:11 < Laurenceb_> stop playing with yourself 2016-05-22T02:26:54 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@ppp121-44-102-159.bras1.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-22T02:29:39 < Rob235> pain is too much info? 2016-05-22T02:32:12 < BrainDamage> it's kinda hilarious how talking about testicular pain is an uncomfortable topic compare to the sicket shit that floats around here 2016-05-22T02:32:30 < Laurenceb_> well its boring 2016-05-22T02:32:32 < MightyPork> dammit. spent like an hour debugging this SPI crap before checking logic levels. the dumb max needs 3.5V 2016-05-22T02:32:50 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-22T02:32:54 < Laurenceb_> you expect to care about feelz over the internetz :P 2016-05-22T02:32:57 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/jy27Sl.png 2016-05-22T02:33:48 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-186-201.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T02:38:00 < karlp> so, you're built a usb2sxzerial dongle, what'ðs the right behaviour for serial rx fifo full? drop new chars? drop old chars? 2016-05-22T02:38:52 < Laurenceb_> does it make a significant difference? 2016-05-22T02:39:28 < karlp> no idea? 2016-05-22T02:39:37 < karlp> currently it goes, "out of space? fuck it , blocking handler" 2016-05-22T02:48:58 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-22T02:50:10 < karlp> huh, turns out writing this serial-usb properly is really non-trivial. 2016-05-22T02:50:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T02:50:29 < karlp> ended up with read/write pointers well out of sync, but thinking there's no data in the buffer. 2016-05-22T02:50:42 < karlp> I must be overflowing it somewhere else, 2016-05-22T02:50:53 < karlp> I still can't run zmodem through it, so it's not good enough :) 2016-05-22T02:53:03 < karlp> man, still have to work out what the _fuck_ is with this target async mode shit in newer gdb not obeying ctrl-c properly 2016-05-22T02:58:46 < Rob235> next time ;) 2016-05-22T03:01:57 < Rob235> too late, you already said it would be fine 2016-05-22T03:04:06 < Rob235> I don't get it 2016-05-22T03:09:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-22T03:10:02 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T03:11:08 < aandrew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8g3aXlsufM 2016-05-22T03:13:13 < Laurenceb_> why are you writing usb-serial 2016-05-22T03:13:13 < aandrew> attn dongs: http://www.j-dar.ca/ 2016-05-22T03:13:17 < Laurenceb_> just grab chibios 2016-05-22T03:13:27 < Laurenceb_> aandrew: old 2016-05-22T03:13:40 < aandrew> nO U R 2016-05-22T03:37:34 -!- SpaceCoaster_ [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-05-22T03:39:16 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T03:39:19 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:3cee:bd28:201:5cd1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T03:48:11 < Laurenceb_> or a kfc bucket 2016-05-22T03:49:44 < Laurenceb_> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/about/media-center/press-item.html/t3829.html 2016-05-22T03:49:49 < Laurenceb_> serious business 2016-05-22T03:52:22 < Laurenceb_> http://files.linuxgizmos.com/arduino_star_otto_back.jpg 2016-05-22T03:52:32 < Laurenceb_> dog hunters O_o 2016-05-22T03:53:27 < Laurenceb_> the screen looks pretty hawt 2016-05-22T03:55:43 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-22T03:55:45 < Laurenceb_> not bad 2016-05-22T03:56:02 * Laurenceb_ wonders if he could make a dedicated high speed video capture board 2016-05-22T03:56:42 < Laurenceb_> well the camera interface on F7 might beat Rpi 2016-05-22T03:57:06 < Laurenceb_> wow new st site is cucked 2016-05-22T03:58:01 < Laurenceb_> no we control linkz with javascript 2016-05-22T03:59:23 < Laurenceb_> GoFail is like > 100grams so I could save weight too 2016-05-22T04:02:59 < MightyPork> Finally got the damn LED matrix working 2016-05-22T04:03:07 < MightyPork> it's pretty cool 2016-05-22T04:03:29 < upgrdman> pix? 2016-05-22T04:05:09 < MightyPork> http://imgur.com/S9kuJVA 2016-05-22T04:05:38 < MightyPork> been fighting with the max driver for hours, turns out reading the manual first would've been a better idea 2016-05-22T04:05:38 < upgrdman> is that an arduino 2016-05-22T04:05:41 < MightyPork> no 2016-05-22T04:05:44 < upgrdman> ok good 2016-05-22T04:05:47 < MightyPork> ebay f103 2016-05-22T04:06:07 < MightyPork> its also animated too 2016-05-22T04:06:35 < MightyPork> it's a nice toy, this display 2016-05-22T04:07:30 < upgrdman> hey fuck you alright 2016-05-22T04:07:38 < upgrdman> i gotta ask the hard questions 2016-05-22T04:07:44 < upgrdman> :) 2016-05-22T04:08:38 < upgrdman> god damn it. this fucking 4Mbit uplink i have sucks ass when i want to upload videso 2016-05-22T04:08:50 < upgrdman> and it didnt help that i had premiere render in high quality :/ 2016-05-22T04:09:40 < MightyPork> ohsix: well it works, in the sense that some broken bootloader I tried to install enumerated and connected 2016-05-22T04:09:45 < MightyPork> so the hardware is alright 2016-05-22T04:11:32 < MightyPork> cdc should b easy w/ opencm3, I had it working earlier on a nucleo 2016-05-22T04:11:36 < MightyPork> but it's huge mess 2016-05-22T04:14:37 < upgrdman> is the only diff between an stm32fX and stm32lX the peripherals? like is the arm the same? 2016-05-22T04:21:12 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T04:22:51 < upgrdman> so L4 isnt an M4F? 2016-05-22T04:24:49 < upgrdman> ya but F4 is an M4F 2016-05-22T04:29:24 < Laurenceb_> louis cuck? 2016-05-22T04:32:33 < Laurenceb_> http://files.linuxgizmos.com/arduino_star_otto_back.jpg 2016-05-22T04:32:43 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErhbJgEL5jQ 2016-05-22T04:34:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T04:35:00 < dongs> MightyPork: max what, that 7segmet driver thingy? 2016-05-22T04:35:19 < dongs> i saw someone cascade like 10 of htem to drive RGB leds array, lol 2016-05-22T04:35:54 < englishman> 4 dongs https://youtu.be/FWVqsY9B4tc?t=8m40s 2016-05-22T04:36:02 < dongs> upgrdman: handbrake that shit to make it smaller, jewtube fucks t he quality anyway 2016-05-22T04:36:55 < dongs> englishman: yeah ive got a bunch of ipad schematics 2016-05-22T04:37:07 < dongs> no idea what garbage software they use to make them 2016-05-22T04:37:09 < dongs> its awful 2016-05-22T04:37:41 < upgrdman> dongs, ya too late. upload is like half done by now and too lazy to reencode 2016-05-22T04:41:16 < dongs> englishman: thats a nice scope 2016-05-22T04:41:28 < englishman> microscope you mean 2016-05-22T04:41:29 < englishman> yes 2016-05-22T04:41:30 < englishman> it is 2016-05-22T04:41:43 < englishman> and nice imager 2016-05-22T04:56:46 -!- Bright [~brightclo@gayest.horse] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-22T04:58:09 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node147.13.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T05:00:12 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T05:01:19 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-92-241.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-22T05:17:55 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T05:19:39 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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If there's a global interrupt, there should be a local interrupt. what's the difference between local and global interrupt? 2016-05-22T07:28:26 < kadaa> ok. thanks. 2016-05-22T07:29:56 < kadaa> USART1 2016-05-22T07:29:58 < kadaa> stm32f0 2016-05-22T07:30:29 < kadaa> yes 2016-05-22T07:37:40 < kadaa> ohsix: thank u very much for your help. let me read myself. most helpful 2016-05-22T07:39:43 < dongs> ohsix stooped pretty low eh. bringing in clones, chatting to himsefl then thanking himself 2016-05-22T07:39:59 < dongs> too bad he picked a wrong channel for that shit 2016-05-22T07:46:53 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/mPetdTd.jpg 2016-05-22T07:53:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:5823:3b45:6ea1:26a3] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T08:28:33 < upgrdman> in a g5 2016-05-22T08:28:37 < upgrdman> is that like a g6 2016-05-22T08:32:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-22T08:35:14 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T09:17:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-dfb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T09:57:02 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f770fce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T10:05:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-22T10:39:02 -!- kadaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T10:40:39 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T10:45:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.199] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T10:51:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-22T10:58:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T11:04:47 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipM3SAYqK4 this guy is back 2016-05-22T11:08:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T11:12:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-22T11:12:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T11:21:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T11:23:17 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-22T11:26:09 < MightyPork> dongs: max7219. sry it was 3:35 am 2016-05-22T11:28:24 < dongs> MightyPork: yeah, thats the one 2016-05-22T11:44:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T11:51:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-22T11:53:42 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-othnrydpnsdgobis] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-22T11:54:47 -!- kadaa [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T11:57:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T11:58:43 < kakimir> sup dongs 2016-05-22T12:01:44 < kakimir> sup sup 2016-05-22T12:02:08 < kakimir> how is innovation? 2016-05-22T12:12:31 < Fleck> http://pastebin.com/FTY6JPYi << is this a good thing to do? (creating variables in loop instead of before loop and just assign/change values inside loop) 2016-05-22T12:15:13 < dongs> BREAKING: Gunman opens fire at a concert in Nenzing, western Austria, kills 2, wounds 11, then kills himself, police says. 2016-05-22T12:15:44 < dongs> no its fucking awful i see like 3 gccisms in just those 3 lines 2016-05-22T12:16:00 < dongs> you'll never write code for a living 2016-05-22T12:16:08 < dongs> oh, right, fleck has me on ignore 2016-05-22T12:16:15 < dongs> 2edgy4him 2016-05-22T12:16:49 < kakimir> some edgy autism sir has just heroed himself? 2016-05-22T12:17:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-22T12:20:31 < dongs> The airline went on to fire a number of staff with alleged Muslim Brotherhood sympathies in 2013 as part of a general purge of suspected Islamists after the military takeover. 2016-05-22T12:20:34 < dongs> haha 2016-05-22T12:25:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T12:26:37 < upgrdman> wtf 2016-05-22T12:26:49 < upgrdman> am i the only one seeing big video ads on that pastebin page 2016-05-22T12:26:54 < upgrdman> i NEVER see ads 2016-05-22T12:27:22 < Fleck> nope, no ads here 2016-05-22T12:27:28 < upgrdman> but Fleck, looks fine to me. dongs disagrees. 2016-05-22T12:27:40 < kakimir> upgrdman: absolutelly no ads 2016-05-22T12:27:44 < Fleck> dongs? who cares about that lunatic? :p 2016-05-22T12:28:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-dfb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T12:29:57 < upgrdman> iirc modern compilers will optimize those variables declared inside the loop so you're not any less efficient than doing it the "proper" way 2016-05-22T12:30:21 < Fleck> thats good to know 2016-05-22T12:30:21 < upgrdman> and i like to declare as close to usage as possible 2016-05-22T12:33:27 < kakimir> you mean it initializes variables before loop or even at the begining of the program? 2016-05-22T12:33:55 < upgrdman> i dont recall but i read some shit on it like years ago 2016-05-22T12:34:32 < upgrdman> guessing if you always assign a value in the loop it just doesnt waste time creating a new variable and init'ing it every iteration 2016-05-22T12:34:36 < kakimir> does compiler take the ram size into account in anything? 2016-05-22T12:34:52 < upgrdman> fuck if i know. try #c or #gcc or whatever 2016-05-22T12:35:15 < kakimir> doesn't it just leave the ram area like it wouldn't care after it exceeds amount of ram? 2016-05-22T12:35:33 < kakimir> and then cause hardfault or so 2016-05-22T12:40:16 < jpa-> Fleck: if you only use the variable inside the loop, declaring them inside is more readable 2016-05-22T12:40:25 < jpa-> it shouldn't matter to performance on any optimizing compiler 2016-05-22T12:40:47 < Fleck> readable or not is not important in this case, performance is 2016-05-22T12:41:12 < jpa-> dongs: what gccisms do you see? 2016-05-22T12:41:26 < jpa-> dongs: it looks totally standard C99 to me 2016-05-22T12:42:29 < kakimir> dongs has used propertary compilers so long he doesn't remember how standard C looks like 2016-05-22T12:45:46 < jpa-> (tried it, btw, produces 100% same code on gcc whether the declaration is inside or outside the loop) 2016-05-22T12:46:06 < kakimir> I wonder what does it mean when eclipse leaves function call in this purple bold font 2016-05-22T12:46:27 < kakimir> and doesn't say there would be anything wrong with it 2016-05-22T12:46:33 < jpa-> why not just look in the style settings to see what it means? 2016-05-22T12:46:51 < kakimir> oh.. sure 2016-05-22T12:46:53 < kakimir> thx 2016-05-22T12:47:32 < Fleck> thanks jpa-!!! 2016-05-22T12:48:44 < kakimir> external SDK calls 2016-05-22T12:48:54 < kakimir> sounds fancy 2016-05-22T12:49:33 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T12:50:25 < kakimir> so string.h is "external SDK" 2016-05-22T12:53:21 < dongs> upgrdman: yeah i saw ad 2016-05-22T12:53:45 < dongs> jpa-: initializers on for(), variable length arrays on next line 2016-05-22T12:54:23 < dongs> pretty sure both of those things are illegal as fuck in misra-c 2016-05-22T12:54:48 < upgrdman> misra-c has so some things, but lots of bullshit too 2016-05-22T12:56:33 < kakimir> what if there is multiple loops inside each other? 2016-05-22T12:57:28 < kakimir> how are variables then allocated? 2016-05-22T12:58:01 < kakimir> crt: propably 2016-05-22T13:00:23 < upgrdman> wtf. my SD card gets hot when reading lots of data from it 2016-05-22T13:00:39 < dongs> er, yeah 2016-05-22T13:00:43 < dongs> welcome to sd cards. 2016-05-22T13:00:44 < upgrdman> just copied like 60GB from it to my HDD, and its almost too hot to hold 2016-05-22T13:00:45 < dongs> thats normal. 2016-05-22T13:00:50 < upgrdman> really? lol ok 2016-05-22T13:00:55 < dongs> i have some sdxc 64gb shit 2016-05-22T13:00:58 < dongs> and the box even had a warning 2016-05-22T13:01:05 < dongs> that t hey will be hot after accessing a lot 2016-05-22T13:01:12 < dongs> they're somethin like 80meg/sec reads 2016-05-22T13:01:14 < upgrdman> ok. ya this is a 128GB 85MBps card 2016-05-22T13:01:17 < dongs> yep 2016-05-22T13:01:22 < kakimir> I need to buy some sd again 2016-05-22T13:01:33 < upgrdman> im tempted to buy a 512GB SD card 2016-05-22T13:01:40 < dongs> install lunix on it 2016-05-22T13:01:43 < upgrdman> so i can be lazy and leave even more shit on it 2016-05-22T13:01:55 < dongs> so when it shits itself you have even less options for recovery 2016-05-22T13:01:57 < dongs> good idea! 2016-05-22T13:02:26 < kakimir> my last one fall off my phone as I had back lid off for water vaporation from inside the phone 2016-05-22T13:03:15 < kakimir> Im a bit worried it has my dick pic in it and now someone finds it somewhere 2016-05-22T13:03:58 < kakimir> yes 2016-05-22T13:04:21 < kakimir> that would not be okay 2016-05-22T13:09:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:e587:3ca2:736a:f7a9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T13:16:18 < kakimir> what is the price to pay for 16GB today? 2016-05-22T13:18:33 < kakimir> is it really ever down? 2016-05-22T13:23:51 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKZkZTZ2JPR1F2d2s/view?usp=sharing when I write not 2, not 4 but 3 X-characters in row it does that weird thing 2016-05-22T13:27:10 < kakimir> it marks it in the left line bar too 2016-05-22T13:27:22 < kakimir> all cases of XXX 2016-05-22T13:27:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-22T13:29:09 < kadaa> On this tutorial http://letanphuc.net/2015/09/stm32f0-uart-tutorial-5/, receive interrupt HAL_UART_Receive_IT() needs to be called all the time at the end of the interrupt routine. Is there some way to remove the need to keep re-enabling the receive interrupt? 2016-05-22T13:31:16 < dongs> no 2016-05-22T13:31:43 < dongs> kakimir: its some autoshit like TODO etc 2016-05-22T13:31:46 < dongs> XXX = fix stuff later 2016-05-22T13:31:54 < kakimir> oh 2016-05-22T13:32:05 < dongs> probably in text editor prefs somewehre 2016-05-22T13:32:14 < kakimir> when you are too lazy to write TODO? 2016-05-22T13:32:26 < dongs> or want gay porn 2016-05-22T13:32:40 < Steffanx> When you took a break for some XXX, it shows you where you stopped.. 2016-05-22T13:32:54 < kakimir> porn head coders 2016-05-22T13:33:17 < dongs> kikecad/opensores programmers and sex? yea right 2016-05-22T13:33:21 < dongs> less likely than you think 2016-05-22T13:33:47 < Steffanx> that's why you stopped doing open sores right? To get laid. 2016-05-22T13:33:53 < dongs> exactly 2016-05-22T13:33:53 < kakimir> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5456560/where-does-the-xxx-comment-prefix-in-eclipse-come-from 2016-05-22T13:35:05 < kakimir> hacker linguistics 2016-05-22T13:35:23 < kakimir> XXX means that code is crap but works 2016-05-22T13:35:41 < kakimir> farm works now> 2016-05-22T13:35:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T13:47:22 < jpa-> dongs: eh, initializers in for is standard C99, the next line is not variable length array but just normal array indexing 2016-05-22T13:47:40 < jpa-> dongs: but yeah, misra-c forbids all kind of stuff, like malloc() i think 2016-05-22T14:00:50 < kakimir> use lunix at least once a week and avoid aids 2016-05-22T14:11:34 < dongs> jpa, malloc is broken in gcc anyway 2016-05-22T14:17:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T14:22:50 < dongs> jesus fish 2016-05-22T14:22:55 < dongs> tho i tihnk thats <>< or osmething 2016-05-22T14:23:10 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthys 2016-05-22T14:23:15 < dongs> This article improperly uses one or more religious texts as primary sources without referring to secondary sources that critically analyze them. Please help improve this article by adding references to reliable secondary sources, with multiple points of view. (May 2016) 2016-05-22T14:24:46 < dongs> speaking of shit... 2016-05-22T14:25:26 < dongs> that marvell thing readstoner found www.aliexpress.com/item/0/32461031390.html 2016-05-22T14:25:31 < dongs> is smaller than xpicowifi 2016-05-22T14:25:38 < dongs> and has specified 90mbps throughput 2016-05-22T14:25:40 < dongs> over SDIO 2016-05-22T14:25:48 < dongs> would have been a nice match for zano 2016-05-22T14:25:57 < dongs> if PIC32MZ had SDIO that is 2016-05-22T14:26:15 < dongs> 13.5x13mm 2016-05-22T14:26:49 < dongs> Dimensions: 24mm (L) x 16.5mm (W) x 5.64mm (H) 2016-05-22T14:26:51 < dongs> xpicowifi 2016-05-22T14:34:43 < __rob> I heard there is PIC64 in Zano2 2016-05-22T14:35:17 < __rob> just gotta wait now for the ks to launch 2016-05-22T14:39:03 -!- kadaa [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-22T14:40:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-22T14:43:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.204] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T14:57:18 < Steffanx> oh that thing is actually only like $5 dongs. 2016-05-22T14:57:34 < Steffanx> even does 1bit sdio, how fancy. 2016-05-22T15:16:33 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T15:20:54 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T15:26:24 -!- ksaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T15:27:05 -!- ksaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-22T15:27:10 -!- ksaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T15:28:04 < ksaa> What is the difference between "External event mode" and "External interrupt mode" when configuring GPIO mode on cubemx? 2016-05-22T15:56:37 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T15:58:46 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T16:00:41 < dongs> Steffanx: the marvell thing? 2016-05-22T16:00:53 < dongs> yeah i duno why that price is retarded, im sure its for a lot of 10 or someshit 2016-05-22T16:01:42 < dongs> __rob: pic64, merger of xmega and pic32? 2016-05-22T16:01:44 < dongs> good idea 2016-05-22T16:05:42 < Laurenceb_> haha 2016-05-22T16:16:39 < ksaa> Is it possible to add arduino libraries which do not involve peripherals to stm code? Pardon me if you hate arduino. 2016-05-22T16:17:45 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-22T16:18:00 < dongs> waht library do you have in midnm 2016-05-22T16:18:56 < ksaa> dongs: this fsm library http://playground.arduino.cc/Code/FiniteStateMachine 2016-05-22T16:19:03 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T16:19:16 < ksaa> no peripheral code involved. 2016-05-22T16:19:54 < dongs> dont see why not if you can separate it enough from tarduino stuff 2016-05-22T16:20:15 < ksaa> dongs: ok. thanks 2016-05-22T16:22:18 < dongs> figured out how to "solve" dots over i problem with altidumb 2016-05-22T16:22:34 < dongs> instead of drawing circle (which also gets non-made on gerber) just put down ascii '.' 2016-05-22T16:22:52 < dongs> and position it over the failing i dot. 2016-05-22T16:23:04 < dongs> i wonder wht the fuck by 16.1 tehy STILL havent fixed that shit 2016-05-22T16:25:06 < englishman> circles drawn in schematic still dont show up at all zoom levels 2016-05-22T16:25:21 < dongs> like arcs? to annotate something? 2016-05-22T16:25:37 < englishman> i have some connectors and logic shits with em 2016-05-22T16:25:42 < dongs> o 2016-05-22T16:25:45 < dongs> like pin circles 2016-05-22T16:25:45 < englishman> like inverters 2016-05-22T16:25:47 < dongs> rite 2016-05-22T16:25:53 < englishman> zoom out, its a buffer 2016-05-22T16:25:58 < englishman> zoom in its an inverter 2016-05-22T16:26:00 < englishman> :/ 2016-05-22T16:26:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T16:26:39 < dongs> best solution: use XOR and tie A to vcc. 2016-05-22T16:26:46 < dongs> then you can use xor or inverter 2016-05-22T16:27:00 < dongs> in same footprint 2016-05-22T16:27:14 < dongs> hmm i dont have any schema with a cicle in it 2016-05-22T16:27:27 < englishman> i think sma connectors too 2016-05-22T16:27:31 < dongs> must be shitty logic 2016-05-22T16:27:34 < englishman> two concentric circles 2016-05-22T16:28:09 < englishman> and yes this is on oldshit all stuff is xor 2016-05-22T16:28:17 < dongs> that sounds like your amd card is shit 2016-05-22T16:28:26 < englishman> haha. 2016-05-22T16:28:39 < englishman> got none of that canadian trash in my house tyvm. 2016-05-22T16:28:53 < dongs> heh 2016-05-22T16:29:10 < dongs> when did amd become canadian anyway, did they acquire someone? 2016-05-22T16:29:12 < dongs> it was so long 2016-05-22T16:29:17 < englishman> ati 2016-05-22T16:29:19 < dongs> ah right 2016-05-22T16:29:48 < englishman> also matrox is in montreal. but they dont do consumer graphics anymore. 2016-05-22T16:30:34 < dongs> they dont do much of anything 2016-05-22T16:30:46 < dongs> their multi-displayport shits is just rebranding of AMD W4xxx series 2016-05-22T16:30:57 < dongs> even pcb layout is ~same 2016-05-22T16:30:59 < dongs> if not identical 2016-05-22T16:31:24 < englishman> not for consumershit 2016-05-22T16:31:59 < englishman> dono, in the high speed sector, it was HFT or them 2016-05-22T16:32:01 < englishman> in the mtl area 2016-05-22T16:41:22 < dongs> ksaa: having looked at the lib, I dont see why you cant just write same thing in C or C++ yourself 2016-05-22T16:41:26 < dongs> its extremely simple. 2016-05-22T16:41:49 < dongs> but yeah, you can just snip the tarduino headers and it hsould build as-is 2016-05-22T16:42:11 < dongs> include whatever main header for your project instead of arduino.h. 2016-05-22T16:43:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-22T16:52:37 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T16:53:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T17:00:06 < ksaa> dongs: thanks for looking. I am trying it now. Got some error like "../Inc/FiniteStateMachine.h(63): error: #20: identifier "class" is undefined" I guess it is due to some C++ settings 2016-05-22T17:02:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.168] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T17:09:12 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T17:17:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T17:26:39 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T17:44:51 < ksaa> Is it possible to use Arduino StringObject in stm32? https://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/StringObject StringObject is easier to use for me 2016-05-22T17:47:08 < Laurenceb_> dont see why not 2016-05-22T17:47:14 < Laurenceb_> tarduino is all c++ 2016-05-22T17:47:25 < Laurenceb_> so you should be able to grab the source 2016-05-22T17:47:36 < Laurenceb_> I've done this for tarduino stuff on stm32 before 2016-05-22T17:48:21 < dongs> why dont you just import std::aids 2016-05-22T17:48:23 < dongs> and cal lit done 2016-05-22T17:48:28 < dongs> why limit yourself to tarduino garbage 2016-05-22T17:48:33 < dongs> when you can add in even MORE bloated garbage? 2016-05-22T17:48:41 < dongs> add std::somethin, +100k to flash 2016-05-22T17:49:38 < ksaa> std is too large. I just need StringObject. any web link to show how to do this on stm32? 2016-05-22T17:50:27 < dongs> add the fucking code and compile it? 2016-05-22T17:50:37 < dongs> jesus fuck man do we need to put everything in your mouth AND chew it for you? 2016-05-22T17:50:42 < dongs> ardeuino shit is not some magical C++ 2016-05-22T17:50:47 < dongs> add it to your project and build it 2016-05-22T17:50:50 < dongs> fix errors as you go 2016-05-22T17:50:51 < dongs> done 2016-05-22T17:50:56 < ksaa> ok 2016-05-22T17:51:15 < ksaa> just asking if it's possible. 2016-05-22T17:51:30 < dongs> looks like Laurenceb_ got it done before. 2016-05-22T17:51:50 < Laurenceb_> yeah just a matter of copypastering the right stuff 2016-05-22T17:51:56 < Laurenceb_> should be poss to avoid bloat 2016-05-22T17:52:04 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-22T17:52:13 < Laurenceb_> but there is very little worst stealing 2016-05-22T17:52:23 < Laurenceb_> I grabbed their radio modem network stack 2016-05-22T17:53:49 < Steffanx> http://www.stm32duino.com/ what else you need? 2016-05-22T17:53:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:5823:3b45:6ea1:26a3] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T17:53:58 < Laurenceb_> ewww 2016-05-22T17:54:11 < Laurenceb_> tarduino code is such fail 2016-05-22T17:54:20 < Laurenceb_> busy wait and bloat _everywhere_ 2016-05-22T17:54:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:39bc:31f9:db7d:1b43] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T17:54:33 < dongs> i think HAL is getting close to it 2016-05-22T17:54:34 < Laurenceb_> no concept of organisation and time management/scheduling 2016-05-22T17:54:38 < emeb_mac> cpu cycles are free! burn at will! 2016-05-22T17:54:42 < dongs> they just need pin name abstraction 2016-05-22T17:54:49 < dongs> that takes up several microseconds to lookup a pin 2016-05-22T17:55:07 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-22T17:57:23 < Steffanx> Tampere weren't you from that region jpa- or was it kakimir ? 2016-05-22T17:58:33 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: arduino has a radio modem networking stack? 2016-05-22T17:58:46 < jpa-> Steffanx: no, i don't think it was either 2016-05-22T17:58:52 < Steffanx> hmm ok. 2016-05-22T17:58:57 < jpa-> Steffanx: i used to study in tampere but that was years ago 2016-05-22T17:59:04 < Steffanx> ah maybe it was that. 2016-05-22T17:59:22 < emeb_mac> Steffanx has a long memory... 2016-05-22T18:01:22 < zyp> Steffanx keeping tabs on everyone in ##stm32 2016-05-22T18:01:58 < Steffanx> nah it was more try to proof kakimir is the hydraulic press channel guy. 2016-05-22T18:02:38 < Steffanx> There are only like 2 active finnish guys in here so not that hard to remember. 2016-05-22T18:03:21 < Laurenceb_> emeb_mac: yeah, stolen from openpilot 2016-05-22T18:04:21 < Steffanx> http://www.airspayce.com/mikem/arduino/RadioHead/ something like that or .. ? 2016-05-22T18:04:31 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: works OK? 2016-05-22T18:04:48 < dongs> i remember that link 2016-05-22T18:05:10 < Steffanx> yeah, iirc Laurenceb_ stole that too :P 2016-05-22T18:05:27 < Steffanx> (shit now i proof again i do have tabs -_- ) 2016-05-22T18:05:48 < Steffanx> it used to be some rf22 library. 2016-05-22T18:06:33 -!- ksaa [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-22T18:10:18 < Laurenceb_> yeah the silabs shit, it works but I ended up writing my own for balloon uplink 2016-05-22T18:10:44 < Laurenceb_> as its possible to get much better performance when you want low bps and long range 2016-05-22T18:12:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T18:14:08 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb_: oh right - I remember you were working on that a while back. Had some crazy long range specs. What did you finally end up getting on that? 2016-05-22T18:22:45 < dongs> top secret 2016-05-22T18:26:01 -!- pid [pidpawel@unaffiliated/pidpawel] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-22T18:29:08 < Laurenceb_> I only measured link budget 2016-05-22T18:29:20 < Laurenceb_> about 154dB link budget 2016-05-22T18:36:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-22T18:47:04 < emeb_mac> not bad. actual measurement or calculation? 2016-05-22T18:57:27 < __rob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhnoSREmWVY 2016-05-22T18:57:37 < __rob> people still getting away with this stuff 2016-05-22T18:57:38 < __rob> all the time 2016-05-22T18:58:30 < __rob> and https://youtu.be/BhnoSREmWVY?t=784 is the best bit - zano should have just done that 2016-05-22T18:59:44 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:10:30 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:17:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-22T19:17:46 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owjrehskgitvbngl] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:22:12 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:22:12 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-22T19:22:24 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-22T19:24:21 < aandrew> what's hte latest word on zano anyway 2016-05-22T19:24:55 < Steffanx> haven't heard much about it since it stopped (here) 2016-05-22T19:26:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:26:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-22T19:26:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-22T19:33:43 < rewolff> __rob: I quit when I start hearing nonsense. Dave calculated 2250 kJ/2.5hours, or 900 kJ/ hour and divdes that by 3600 to get 250W. Then he again divides by 2.5h. Sigh. But the back-of-the-envelope is funny. :-) 2016-05-22T19:42:03 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:ac72:c7c1:c42f:dce7] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:45:46 < __rob> regardless of the maths, the blatenet disclaimer covers them to basically not deliver anything 2016-05-22T19:45:47 < __rob> job done 2016-05-22T19:46:49 < Laurenceb_> emeb_mac: measurement 2016-05-22T19:46:52 < Laurenceb_> oh hes gone 2016-05-22T19:47:00 < Laurenceb_> lots of copper foil coax and attenuators 2016-05-22T19:48:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.232] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:51:49 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T19:58:33 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-22T19:58:50 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:08:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:e587:3ca2:736a:f7a9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-22T20:21:04 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-22T20:21:24 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:25:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T20:25:31 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ivaovnzonfapxgvb] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-22T20:31:18 -!- maenthrie [~maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-cddlyojuqflusnge] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:36:24 < Ecco> Newbie quesiton: how do you read an open-drain output with an STM32? 2016-05-22T20:36:47 < Ecco> (the open drain output pin being on another component) 2016-05-22T20:36:56 < jpa-> by adding a pull-up, or enabling the internal one 2016-05-22T20:37:06 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-22T20:37:26 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:37:34 < Ecco> ok, thanks 2016-05-22T20:37:57 < Ecco> Do all GPIOs have an internal pull-up? 2016-05-22T20:38:18 < jpa-> i think so, yes 2016-05-22T20:38:19 < Ecco> IIRC, yes, but I'm not positive 2016-05-22T20:38:21 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-22T20:38:33 < jpa-> not 100% of special pins like the ones that are input-only 2016-05-22T20:38:39 < Ecco> Makes sense 2016-05-22T20:38:44 < Ecco> so I enable the pull up 2016-05-22T20:38:59 < Ecco> if I read 1, the output pin was 1, if I read 0, the output pin was zero 2016-05-22T20:39:07 < Ecco> makes sense 2016-05-22T20:39:13 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-22T20:39:29 < jpa-> though you need to wait a moment between enabling pull-up and reading the pin 2016-05-22T20:39:50 < jpa-> like, 1µs or so, depending on capacitance 2016-05-22T20:41:24 -!- maenthrie [~maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-cddlyojuqflusnge] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T20:46:47 < Ecco> Makes sense 2016-05-22T20:46:49 < Ecco> Thanks! 2016-05-22T20:46:50 -!- maenthrie [~maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-tzemptpdqvxbkcko] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:54:16 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:54:43 < Tectu> sfw 4 all metal fans https://d2x72n33pz0l2n.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/n/mnw147-2.jpg 2016-05-22T20:54:53 < kakimir> http://www.motonet.fi/fi/tuote/487139/Jatkoliitinkutistesukka-sininen-10kpl what is this called in english? 2016-05-22T20:55:01 < kakimir> that one in picture is the killer 2016-05-22T20:55:12 < Tectu> heatshrink tubing? 2016-05-22T20:55:14 < kakimir> it has glue and shrink tube 2016-05-22T20:55:22 < Steffanx> lol mr jpa- oh6 is not in your logs either? Who's next? 2016-05-22T20:55:23 < Tectu> oh 2016-05-22T20:55:52 < kakimir> Tectu: yes but it requires first pressing with pliers 2016-05-22T20:55:59 < Ecco> Another quesiton: what size would you recommend for a 1/4W SMD resistor? 2016-05-22T20:56:09 < Ecco> (Which would be the most common /reliable) 2016-05-22T20:56:23 < Tectu> kakimir, sorry - just gave it a quick glance and didn't see the metal inside. 2016-05-22T20:56:29 < jpa-> Steffanx: you're safe, don't worry :) 2016-05-22T20:57:52 < Steffanx> whops 2016-05-22T20:58:02 < kakimir> Ecco: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount_technology#Rectangular_passive_components 2016-05-22T20:58:22 < Ecco> Yeah, but 1/4W might be a little too much for the smallest parts 2016-05-22T20:58:29 < Steffanx> heat shrink connector. heat shrink terminal, pick your name kakimir 2016-05-22T20:58:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T20:58:36 < kakimir> 1206 imperial or 1210 imperial Ecco 2016-05-22T20:58:38 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-22T20:58:44 < Steffanx> y u no translate to english and google a bit mr kakimir? 2016-05-22T20:58:47 < Ecco> That big? 2016-05-22T20:58:58 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T20:59:12 < kakimir> 0805 if you know what you are doing 2016-05-22T20:59:27 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-22T20:59:29 < kakimir> if there is heat dissipation in copper plate or such 2016-05-22T20:59:33 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-22T20:59:36 < kakimir> directly 2016-05-22T20:59:46 < Ecco> Well I've seen 0603 resistor rated for 200mW 2016-05-22T20:59:47 < kakimir> like... solid ground plate 2016-05-22T20:59:56 < Ecco> But I was wondering wether that was common and reliable 2016-05-22T21:00:48 < kakimir> maybe it can take it if there is really some solid thermal connections to it 2016-05-22T21:00:54 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-22T21:01:42 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [] 2016-05-22T21:01:45 < Ecco> I'll go for 1206 then, thanks 2016-05-22T21:02:03 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T21:04:35 < kakimir> http://www.vishay.com/docs/28844/tmismra.pdf 2016-05-22T21:08:30 < kakimir> I have had 1206 falling off the circuit as I had something like... watt to them 2016-05-22T21:09:50 < kakimir> and my solder melts a bit under 200centigrade 2016-05-22T21:10:47 < kakimir> sure there was no copper plate arond 2016-05-22T21:15:48 < Tectu> stop doing high-power stuff 2016-05-22T21:17:18 < kakimir> I think I'm just starting to do some 2016-05-22T21:17:27 < kakimir> first I go 400V 2016-05-22T21:17:55 < kakimir> then I need more amps 2016-05-22T21:19:20 < Tectu> don't mess with >12V. It can zyp you and you get BrainDamage and become a mentally handicapped lunatic like Laurenceb 2016-05-22T21:19:28 < Tectu> zap you* 2016-05-22T21:19:39 < kakimir> isolate with wlan 2016-05-22T21:21:43 < kakimir> have kill switch 2016-05-22T21:23:01 < Tectu> just make sure that you Sync them up properly, otherwise you will be Thorn apart by it when the WiFi gets a ReadError -__- 2016-05-22T21:26:16 < BrainDamage> stahp 2016-05-22T21:28:42 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 144 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 143 normal] 2016-05-22T21:29:04 < kakimir> I think after I get old fashioned thyristor tig welder to function 2016-05-22T21:30:08 < kakimir> I need to create fet/igbt based welder 2016-05-22T21:32:45 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-22T21:38:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T21:39:28 < Laurenceb_> mentally handicapped lunatic 2016-05-22T21:39:33 < Laurenceb_> I resemble that remark 2016-05-22T21:40:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T21:40:57 < ReadError> just relax and ava wank m8 2016-05-22T21:43:42 < Laurenceb_> theres a post office and a bank 2016-05-22T21:43:58 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bExsS0yw6g8 2016-05-22T21:44:41 < Rob235> you guys spend too much time on memes and shit, do something productive! 2016-05-22T21:46:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:39bc:31f9:db7d:1b43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-22T21:48:42 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: have you been ever to Isle of Man? 2016-05-22T21:48:50 < Laurenceb_> no 2016-05-22T21:49:04 < Laurenceb_> why? 2016-05-22T21:50:11 < Tectu> Rob235, you mean like vaping? 2016-05-22T21:51:27 < Steffanx> subohming. 2016-05-22T21:51:57 < kakimir> I was planning to visit but fuque I have jubbs when pokerstar senior tt is taking place! 2016-05-22T21:52:01 < kakimir> the race 2016-05-22T21:52:10 < Laurenceb_> ah my uni is competing 2016-05-22T21:52:17 < kakimir> zero tt ? 2016-05-22T21:52:38 < Laurenceb_> http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/electricbikeproject/ 2016-05-22T21:52:39 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-22T21:53:52 < kakimir> do they have real pilot for it? 2016-05-22T21:53:58 < kakimir> the ricer 2016-05-22T21:54:16 < Rob235> Tectu: I can vape and be productive at the same time :) 2016-05-22T21:56:20 < Laurenceb_> dunno, some guy from Italy or Malta 2016-05-22T21:56:21 < Steffanx> sure sure. 2016-05-22T21:56:34 < Laurenceb_> all the guys in that research group are from one of those places 2016-05-22T21:56:35 < kakimir> sounds ricer 2016-05-22T22:05:54 < kakimir> can there be like switch case with code run at certain point if... hmm 2016-05-22T22:07:06 < kakimir> nothin 2016-05-22T22:07:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T22:07:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-22T22:07:40 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-22T22:09:43 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: university of nottingham is like top shiet? 2016-05-22T22:10:10 < Laurenceb_> not really, they think capillary refill timing works :P 2016-05-22T22:10:39 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-22T22:10:58 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T22:11:36 < Laurenceb_> their power group is quite high profile, but I don't get the attraction 2016-05-22T22:11:48 < Laurenceb_> its just making brushless motor drives and stuff 2016-05-22T22:11:54 < Laurenceb_> they are obsessed with tricore 2016-05-22T22:12:17 < Laurenceb_> http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/microcontroller/32-bit-tricore-tm-microcontroller/channel.html?channel=ff80808112ab681d0112ab6b64b50805 2016-05-22T22:12:32 < Laurenceb_> they stick that together with some FETs and that is all they ever make :P 2016-05-22T22:13:42 < kakimir> I watch a lot of stuff from youtubes that have that castle logo to it 2016-05-22T22:13:58 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-22T22:14:53 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4770525/ figure 7 2016-05-22T22:18:06 < kakimir> I try to figure out if I have any academic qualities 2016-05-22T22:18:11 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-22T22:18:29 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T22:18:48 < kakimir> still I mainly feel like I would waste my time 2016-05-22T22:20:03 < kakimir> and others time 2016-05-22T22:24:45 < Laurenceb_> well my project was a waste of time 2016-05-22T22:24:58 < Laurenceb_> only did it for the qualification and a bit of learning experience 2016-05-22T22:25:14 < Laurenceb_> but it was mismanaged and the whole premise was nonsense 2016-05-22T22:28:47 < kakimir> problem with me and universities is that I want to do all cool shit - now 2016-05-22T22:29:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah with a uni project you usually have to do what the uni wants you to do and nothing else 2016-05-22T22:29:40 < kakimir> or some corporate partner 2016-05-22T22:30:02 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-05-22T22:30:32 < Laurenceb_> my supervisor is utterly obsessed with capillary refill time, which is useless 2016-05-22T22:30:44 < Laurenceb_> luckily I managed to reduce it to <25% of my thesis 2016-05-22T22:30:54 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T22:45:19 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T22:49:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-22T23:03:05 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-22T23:05:04 < kakimir> why his voice is altered? 2016-05-22T23:13:26 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-22T23:18:11 < kakimir> really? 2016-05-22T23:18:14 < kakimir> no 2016-05-22T23:18:18 < kakimir> it is not 2016-05-22T23:18:34 < kakimir> it's something like abiko connector press connection 2016-05-22T23:18:40 < kakimir> to wire 2016-05-22T23:18:59 < kakimir> I don't know if other world have abiko shit 2016-05-22T23:20:14 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T23:20:49 < kakimir> oh the word - crimp 2016-05-22T23:22:39 < kakimir> "crimp heat shrink" is the money 2016-05-22T23:25:04 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/100PCS-3sizes-Heat-Shrink-Crimp-Terminals-Insulated-Electrical-Wire-Connectors-/222124765974 2016-05-22T23:26:16 < kakimir> I know 2016-05-22T23:26:45 < kakimir> sure 2016-05-22T23:27:06 < kakimir> they should make crimp + solder 2016-05-22T23:27:14 < kakimir> suppa connector 2016-05-22T23:28:53 < kakimir> I don't buy it 2016-05-22T23:29:01 < kakimir> reliable part or so 2016-05-22T23:29:10 < kakimir> solder things tend to come loose 2016-05-22T23:30:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.95] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-22T23:31:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T23:31:24 < kakimir> okay 2016-05-22T23:31:30 < kakimir> I buy some solder ones too 2016-05-22T23:31:33 < kakimir> for myself 2016-05-22T23:32:26 < kakimir> these are expensives 2016-05-22T23:33:32 < kakimir> I rather usually do some solid connection for coppers with copper wire wound around it 2016-05-22T23:33:37 < kakimir> then solder it 2016-05-22T23:33:47 < kakimir> then heatshrink 2016-05-22T23:33:53 < kakimir> it's the bomb anyways 2016-05-22T23:35:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T23:35:36 < kakimir> kind of expensive is way too expensive 2016-05-22T23:37:33 < kakimir> kind of cheap - still too expencives 2016-05-22T23:39:12 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/391184305852 2016-05-22T23:39:59 < Fleck> ohsix: thanks, good link! 2016-05-22T23:41:21 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-22T23:41:42 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-22T23:45:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-22T23:58:05 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-05-22T23:58:41 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/E6Fmd83.gif --- Day changed Mon May 23 2016 2016-05-23T00:02:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-23T00:05:32 < upgrdman> typical american http://i.imgur.com/qn0RlI2.gifv 2016-05-23T00:07:09 < karlp> yeah, "indivisible" since 1788 or some shit 2016-05-23T00:07:22 < karlp> pretending they didn't have that little kerfuffle about owning people ther ein the middle... 2016-05-23T00:08:12 < kakimir> ohsix: nobody knows if he did 2016-05-23T00:13:09 < Laurenceb_> numberphile? wut 2016-05-23T00:13:15 < Laurenceb_> irc denziens? 2016-05-23T00:13:59 < kakimir> I watch numberphile 2016-05-23T00:14:09 < Laurenceb_> its a vblog? 2016-05-23T00:14:19 < Laurenceb_> AIDS 2016-05-23T00:14:25 < kakimir> math stuff 2016-05-23T00:14:29 < kakimir> neat things 2016-05-23T00:14:55 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-05-23T00:16:41 < kakimir> not aids 2016-05-23T00:22:48 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb_-grade link: https://i.imgur.com/in90h6G.gif 2016-05-23T00:26:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.95] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-23T00:28:33 < upgrdman> lol https://gfycat.com/WigglyImpassionedHarlequinbug 2016-05-23T00:36:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T00:37:10 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T00:40:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T00:43:19 -!- lorenzo [lorenzo@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yizmzpptejydjlnw] has quit [] 2016-05-23T00:43:45 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-23T00:46:54 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T00:47:13 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T00:54:54 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-84-48.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-05-23T01:00:22 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f770fce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T01:03:26 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T01:03:45 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T01:12:05 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/thumb/1463192295101.jpg 2016-05-23T01:12:27 < kakimir> nite 2016-05-23T01:12:33 < kakimir> Laurenceb_ 2016-05-23T01:12:39 < Laurenceb_> cya 2016-05-23T01:15:02 < Laurenceb_> ohsix speaks from experience 2016-05-23T01:15:41 < Laurenceb_> nice reg number 2016-05-23T01:15:47 < Laurenceb_> G-NUNI 2016-05-23T01:16:04 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T01:16:11 < Laurenceb_> the hot air balloon 2016-05-23T01:16:26 < Laurenceb_> never visited wizardchan, is it still online? 2016-05-23T01:16:38 < Laurenceb_> I know hotwheelz launched 8chan after he got laid 2016-05-23T01:16:50 < Laurenceb_> his waifu has a lot to answer for 2016-05-23T01:17:06 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-23T01:17:48 < Laurenceb_> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/REnlB3631Nw/hqdefault.jpg 2016-05-23T01:17:55 < Laurenceb_> /pol/ on suicide watch 2016-05-23T01:20:41 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/dxN8BVz.jpg 2016-05-23T01:23:03 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-05-23T01:23:57 < Laurenceb_> nope 2016-05-23T01:24:05 < Laurenceb_> free aids? 2016-05-23T01:34:46 < Laurenceb_> https://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9139659&cid=52160749 2016-05-23T01:36:10 < Laurenceb_> 20 0 1260m 552m 40m S 76 29.4 314:28.06 firefox 2016-05-23T01:36:32 < Laurenceb_> javascript confirmed 2016-05-23T01:43:49 < Laurenceb_> I've had to learn some Ruby to support automated testing written in Ruby and Cucumber. 2016-05-23T01:43:52 < Laurenceb_> saywut 2016-05-23T01:44:09 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucumber_%28software%29 2016-05-23T01:44:12 < Laurenceb_> seriously... 2016-05-23T02:25:16 < Rob235> hailo 2016-05-23T02:25:24 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:ac72:c7c1:c42f:dce7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T02:28:51 < Rob235> whats up 2016-05-23T02:29:12 < Rob235> lucky 2016-05-23T02:29:41 < Rob235> I'm writing this paper at about 1 word an hour 2016-05-23T02:46:20 < dongs> i found out how ohsix doesnt have time to do anything 2016-05-23T02:46:29 < dongs> i watched that lunix sux jewtube at 1.25 speed 2016-05-23T02:46:35 < dongs> and still wasted ~30minutes of my life 2016-05-23T02:46:40 < dongs> and i have zero youtube subscriberrs 2016-05-23T02:46:53 < dongs> just watching eevblag at 1.25speed at the rate he produces shit unfunny videos = entire day is gone 2016-05-23T02:47:27 < dongs> the only thing you can do while watching that shit is have autistic chats on irc 2016-05-23T02:47:32 < dongs> and nothing else gets done 2016-05-23T02:54:15 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-23T02:56:18 < jef79m> <dongs> and i have zero youtube subscriberrs 2016-05-23T02:56:20 < jef79m> untrue 2016-05-23T02:56:33 < dongs> jef79m: i mean, I subscribe to zero people 2016-05-23T02:56:51 < dongs> so I don't have a constant stream of new video diarreah to sort through 2016-05-23T02:56:57 < dongs> i just click links on irc occasionally 2016-05-23T03:05:38 < BrainDamage> i've tried with mediocre input snr ( 15dB ) and with 2.4kbit/s you really struggle to understand shit 2016-05-23T03:08:09 < dongs> http://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20160522/p2g/00m/0dm/044000c lol japs 2016-05-23T03:09:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-23T03:09:25 < BrainDamage> don't japs have ancient shit banking infrastructure so much that they stopped supporting foreign cards due to not have sufficient computational capability for the statistical "security" foreign credits have? 2016-05-23T03:09:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T03:09:59 < dongs> yeah. only 7/11 and post office ATMs can read american PLUS-system cards 2016-05-23T03:10:05 < dongs> everyone else, fuck off 2016-05-23T03:10:49 < BrainDamage> video codec, can't help 2016-05-23T03:11:32 < BrainDamage> audio, for low bitrates search for opus, speex and amr 2016-05-23T03:11:49 < dongs> autism chats? 2016-05-23T03:20:15 < BrainDamage> oh another thing, speex lib has some handy stuff even if you don't want to include, to take inspiration from 2016-05-23T03:20:29 < BrainDamage> echo cancellation, and similar handy functions 2016-05-23T03:23:37 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-23T03:29:28 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node90.11.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T03:31:12 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-84-48.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T03:36:43 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node90.11.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T03:37:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-23T03:37:21 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node12.12.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T03:40:01 < Laurenceb_> I've often wondered this 2016-05-23T03:40:20 < Laurenceb_> how does eevblog produce so much shit in so little time 2016-05-23T03:40:26 < dongs> thats all he does 2016-05-23T03:40:30 < dongs> produce shit 2016-05-23T03:40:40 < Laurenceb_> maybe he has a time compression bullshit film studio 2016-05-23T03:40:40 < dongs> once you get that sweet taste of patreon 2016-05-23T03:40:44 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-23T03:40:55 < Laurenceb_> only vblog I watch is evalion 2016-05-23T03:42:13 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node12.12.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T03:43:13 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, eevblog is so half assed 2016-05-23T03:43:17 < upgrdman> especially now 2016-05-23T03:43:44 < upgrdman> like its mostly "im opening my mail" and "i found this in the trash, i'll open it and pretend i can offer insight into it" 2016-05-23T03:44:13 < dongs> upgrdman: does anyone actually CARE about those "i found shit in the trash" vids? 2016-05-23T03:44:18 < dongs> i mean what PRACTICAL value is there in them? 2016-05-23T03:44:23 < upgrdman> they get lots of views 2016-05-23T03:44:28 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node36.12.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T03:44:29 < dongs> yes, but i mean, what is the point? 2016-05-23T03:44:32 < dongs> what is to be learned? 2016-05-23T03:44:57 < upgrdman> to get him some ad revenue :) i guess if he did it properly you might learn a bit about DFM, etc. 2016-05-23T03:45:36 < dongs> doesnt he only take apart ancient garbage 2016-05-23T03:45:40 < dongs> before DFM was a thing 2016-05-23T03:45:53 < upgrdman> he takes apart whatever he finds 2016-05-23T03:46:02 < upgrdman> but ya, lots of shit 2016-05-23T03:47:21 < dongs> still sounds useless 2016-05-23T03:49:21 < upgrdman> specious == ? 2016-05-23T03:50:09 < upgrdman> for some reason i read that word as spacious 2016-05-23T03:50:18 < upgrdman> like lots of space 2016-05-23T03:50:54 < dongs> i didnt see anyone typing specious, are you imagining things? 2016-05-23T03:51:28 < upgrdman> autism bro did 2016-05-23T03:55:20 < Laurenceb_> oh god 2016-05-23T03:55:53 * Laurenceb_ gets back to fapping over evalion vids 2016-05-23T04:01:00 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T04:01:17 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T04:09:55 < Laurenceb_> the ride never ends 2016-05-23T04:10:20 < dongs> time to turn on goa trance and finish this layout 2016-05-23T04:11:00 < Laurenceb_> lul its the 90s again 2016-05-23T04:17:32 < dongs> https://forum.kicad.info/t/3d-models-kicad-wishlist/2014 2016-05-23T04:17:33 < dongs> lol 2016-05-23T04:17:44 < dongs> "hey opensauce guize, draw this shit for me cuz i can't" 2016-05-23T04:21:03 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T05:03:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T05:16:59 < upgrdman> anyone know why some (most?) i2c devices need a NACK after the last byte? do they use that to reset state? 2016-05-23T05:18:21 < dongs> .. isnt that just a part of prototocol to tell you arent gonna be reading anymore 2016-05-23T05:18:41 < zauslande> no, its for multibyte transfers because there is no other means to signal its end of transmission for simple logic to recognize. 2016-05-23T05:19:00 < dongs> isnt that waht I just said 2016-05-23T05:19:32 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T05:19:45 < upgrdman> but it seems like NACK is only needed for reads. not for writes. 2016-05-23T05:19:50 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T05:20:00 < zauslande> if it were micro to micro, it could use a block count in the header - but its for simple logic state machines to respond. 2016-05-23T05:22:20 < zauslande> i've written assembly language, bit-banged I2C/SPI etc since the 80s, so I just have to open some code when I have a question. The last time I did it, it was part of a tasker so that would move a byte every tick. 2016-05-23T05:24:07 < zauslande> First time I used it was on a line of cordless phones for Radio Shack in the late 80s. The I2C EEprom didn't include the multi-byte transfer, so I hacked it. 2016-05-23T05:24:33 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T05:24:51 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T05:30:04 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T05:30:22 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T05:41:31 < zauslande> I found that philips datasheet recently when I was looking for some other records. 2016-05-23T05:44:24 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T05:51:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T05:58:12 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-05-23T05:59:35 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node36.12.251.72.1dial.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-23T06:08:19 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-23T06:51:04 < aandrew> hm? 2016-05-23T06:51:57 < aandrew> upgrdman: the NAK is a "vestigial organ" since almost every I2C device is capable of properly terminating the read with the stop or repeated start condition 2016-05-23T06:52:12 < upgrdman> ya i need it :/ 2016-05-23T06:52:16 < upgrdman> well not "i" 2016-05-23T06:52:16 < upgrdman> but 2016-05-23T06:52:19 < upgrdman> the mpu6050 2016-05-23T06:52:22 < upgrdman> it needs it 2016-05-23T06:53:19 < aandrew> so give it :-) 2016-05-23T07:04:26 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-23T07:21:29 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T07:21:29 < dongs> upgrdman: wut, at waht retarded low level are you working that you need to give a shit about this 2016-05-23T07:21:33 < dongs> are you buttbanging or something 2016-05-23T07:21:50 < dongs> what i2c peripehral doenst automatically do this 2016-05-23T07:22:19 < upgrdman> dongs, im dicking with the FTDI mpsse shit 2016-05-23T07:22:45 < dongs> oh lawld 2016-05-23T07:22:48 < dongs> enfuckingjoy 2016-05-23T07:22:50 < upgrdman> and it's all bitfield options with that 2016-05-23T07:23:04 < upgrdman> dongs, its working great so far. 2016-05-23T07:24:57 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T07:25:00 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-23T07:41:42 < jpa-> upgrdman: isn't NACK sent by the receiving part always, so for writes it would be the chip sending the NACK if any 2016-05-23T07:42:02 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-23T07:42:13 < upgrdman> mpu6050 datasheet explicting shows master NACKing 2016-05-23T07:42:45 < jpa-> and when master is reading from slave, it would need to give NACK because at other times the slave would be holding the bus so it cannot do STOP 2016-05-23T07:42:52 < upgrdman> master must NACK at end of any read (single or multi read) 2016-05-23T07:43:06 < jpa-> yes, and it is receiving part in that case 2016-05-23T07:43:27 < jpa-> but by how I2C usually works, when writing to slave, it is the slave that gives the ACK/NACK 2016-05-23T07:44:02 < upgrdman> no NACKs when master writes to slave for this chip 2016-05-23T07:44:17 < jpa-> yeah, not all chips use that 2016-05-23T07:44:23 < jpa-> the purpose is that the writing party holds the bus, so it has to give time for the receiving part to yell "staph!" 2016-05-23T07:44:44 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-23T08:04:58 < dongs> get to the back of the bus 2016-05-23T08:17:48 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f770fce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T08:41:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-17b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T08:58:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-17b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-23T09:39:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-23T09:42:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T09:42:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T09:42:46 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T10:09:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.107] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T10:27:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-23T10:28:38 < eft> marihuana 2016-05-23T10:35:55 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T11:01:57 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T11:02:55 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T11:05:15 < brianx> kettle. 2016-05-23T11:10:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T11:10:38 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f770fce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T11:14:25 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T11:16:22 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@153.109.1.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T11:30:13 < zyp> wtf 2016-05-23T11:30:18 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-23T11:30:44 < zyp> altium DRC is reporting clearance violations between a polygon and vias on the same net 2016-05-23T11:30:44 < dongs> innovating liek crazy today 2016-05-23T11:30:48 < dongs> submitted 2 designs 2016-05-23T11:30:54 < dongs> zyp, pic? 2016-05-23T11:30:57 < dongs> could it be hole to hole? 2016-05-23T11:31:00 < dongs> or some manufacturing shit? 2016-05-23T11:31:04 < zyp> no 2016-05-23T11:31:30 < zyp> I made some separate clearance rules for polygons, using InPolygon and shit 2016-05-23T11:31:43 < zyp> and now I'm getting a ton of stupid violations 2016-05-23T11:32:16 < dongs> zyp, why? you can just increase the polygon clearance grid 2016-05-23T11:32:21 < dongs> in the general 'clearance' thing 2016-05-23T11:32:25 < dongs> poly to xxx 2016-05-23T11:32:34 < dongs> does that not cover it? 2016-05-23T11:33:00 < zyp> where? 2016-05-23T11:33:07 < dongs> teh normal 'clearance' page 2016-05-23T11:33:10 < dongs> wehre you have a matrix 2016-05-23T11:33:14 < dongs> of type vs type clearance 2016-05-23T11:33:25 < dongs> so you can just increase it from poly to arc/line/other poly 2016-05-23T11:33:31 < dongs> without having to specify shit 2016-05-23T11:33:48 < dongs> like my place has been bitching lately that I should have gnd -> clearance of 8 mil 2016-05-23T11:33:52 < dongs> intead of 5 2016-05-23T11:33:59 < dongs> so i do overall clerance of 5 and then change poly ->* to 8 2016-05-23T11:35:51 < zyp> I don't know what clearance matrix you're talking about 2016-05-23T11:36:11 < dongs> ugh screenshotting jesus fuck dude 2016-05-23T11:37:19 < dongs> the only clearance shit in the whole drc, lol 2016-05-23T11:37:22 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/k02PhpE.png 2016-05-23T11:37:44 < zyp> uh, is that an AD16 thing? I've never seen that 2016-05-23T11:37:48 < dongs> ?!?!?!!? 2016-05-23T11:37:51 < dongs> its been there for ages 2016-05-23T11:37:58 < dongs> scroll down 2016-05-23T11:38:02 < dongs> on that 'clearance' thing.. 2016-05-23T11:38:04 < dongs> it shows the matrix 2016-05-23T11:38:13 < dongs> do you only see that via + trace pic? 2016-05-23T11:38:27 < zyp> yes 2016-05-23T11:38:38 < dongs> and? you cant scroll down for the matrix? 2016-05-23T11:38:46 < dongs> shits there even in my ragepal AD10 2016-05-23T11:41:25 < zyp> ah, shit was added in AD14.3 2016-05-23T11:41:26 < zyp> https://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Refactored+Clearance+Design+Rule 2016-05-23T11:41:38 < zyp> still running 13.2 here at work 2016-05-23T11:42:20 < dongs> oh doh 2016-05-23T11:42:44 < dongs> well shit 2016-05-23T11:43:38 < zyp> hmm, doesn't matter 2016-05-23T11:43:44 < zyp> altium is still being stupid 2016-05-23T11:44:09 < dongs> lol fuckin great 2016-05-23T11:44:15 < dongs> I just got a "Fatal Failure" from shitpal screen 2016-05-23T11:44:17 < dongs> when sending money 2016-05-23T11:44:19 < dongs> nothing else 2016-05-23T11:45:50 < dongs> (InNet('GND') AND InPolygon) 2016-05-23T11:45:50 < dongs> anyway 2016-05-23T11:45:55 < dongs> my Clearance_Poly is that 2016-05-23T11:46:02 < dongs> in that same screenshot 2016-05-23T11:46:21 < dongs> and set to 8mil (that was before i figured out i could do same shit by the poly->* matrix 2016-05-23T11:46:27 < dongs> and i never deleted that rule 2016-05-23T11:46:44 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@153.109.1.95] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T11:47:03 < dongs> http://www.tmz.com/2016/05/22/nick-menza-megadeth-dies-dead-collapses/ ownt 2016-05-23T11:47:10 < dongs> hes megadead now 2016-05-23T11:47:55 < PeterM> >drummer >musician 2016-05-23T11:47:56 < PeterM> heh. 2016-05-23T11:48:03 < zyp> dongs, yeah, that's what I tried to do 2016-05-23T11:48:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T11:48:31 < zyp> idk what's up, I removed the rule again and I'm still getting violations that doesn't make sense at all 2016-05-23T11:48:41 < dongs> bad r am 2016-05-23T11:50:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.100] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T11:51:40 < PeterM> whats that curt? 2016-05-23T11:52:12 < PeterM> crt, have you tried "/nick cnt 2016-05-23T11:52:50 < dongs> why not just 'cunt' 2016-05-23T11:52:55 < dongs> might be against ~freenode policies~ tho 2016-05-23T11:53:21 < PeterM> pretty much 2016-05-23T11:55:17 < PeterM> b 2016-05-23T11:55:27 < zyp> haha, closing and reopening document fixed everything 2016-05-23T11:55:41 < dongs> zyp, gj 2016-05-23T11:55:46 < dongs> you should tell those cunts to upgrade 2016-05-23T11:55:54 < dongs> from what I recall 13.x was pretty fucking buggy 2016-05-23T11:56:30 < dongs> you cant /nick to that tho 2016-05-23T12:01:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-23T12:13:42 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owjrehskgitvbngl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-23T12:17:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T12:25:13 < ReadError> does anyone have an irc nick older than mine 2016-05-23T12:25:22 < ReadError> shits pretty fuckin OG 2016-05-23T12:25:47 < ReadError> -NickServ- Registered : Jul 06 00:46:12 2004 (11y 46w 2d ago) 2016-05-23T12:26:06 < zyp> how do you check that? 2016-05-23T12:26:13 < ReadError> ./msg nickserv info <nick> 2016-05-23T12:26:38 < ReadError> got you beat by 6 weeks ;p 2016-05-23T12:26:42 < zyp> heh :p 2016-05-23T12:26:44 < ReadError> next! 2016-05-23T12:27:28 < jpa-> the real jpa beats you 2016-05-23T12:27:47 < ReadError> heh damn 2016-05-23T12:27:50 < ReadError> but not you ;p 2016-05-23T12:27:59 < zyp> kinda surprised, didn't think I joined freenode that early 2016-05-23T12:28:02 < ReadError> some frenchy 2016-05-23T12:28:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T12:28:10 < ReadError> i think it was called something else 2016-05-23T12:28:14 < ReadError> back then.. 2016-05-23T12:28:24 < jpa-> i think it was freenode already 2016-05-23T12:28:37 < jpa-> even though some of the server addresses had 'pdpc' or something in it 2016-05-23T12:29:02 < PeterM> readerror, check aandrew 2016-05-23T12:29:09 < PeterM> i klnow hes an oldcunt 2016-05-23T12:29:53 < ReadError> i think i joined originally to setup clan matches or some shit 2016-05-23T12:29:56 < ReadError> for CS 2016-05-23T12:30:35 < ReadError> [05:30:03] -NickServ- Registered : Jun 04 01:56:27 2014 (1y 50w 4d ago) 2016-05-23T12:30:35 < ReadError> [05:30:03] -NickServ- User reg. : Jan 20 16:20:24 2003 (13y 18w 0d ago) 2016-05-23T12:30:42 < ReadError> wtf, whats that even mean 2016-05-23T12:31:23 < PeterM> he has an account that is 13y old and a nick that is 1y 50w old 2016-05-23T12:31:31 < ReadError> ohh 2016-05-23T12:32:11 < PeterM> also, git gud 2016-05-23T12:32:43 < PeterM> i gotta say he probably has an acct older than some people on freenode 2016-05-23T12:32:44 < ReadError> git reset --hard 2016-05-23T12:32:50 < PeterM> *most 2016-05-23T12:34:06 < dongs> was that before lilo got pierced by a pink dildo-shaped bus? or after 2016-05-23T12:35:56 < PeterM> both ReadError and aandrew were before 2016-05-23T12:36:12 < dongs> Information on dongs (account dongs): 2016-05-23T12:36:12 < dongs> Registered : May 03 14:39:30 2006 (10y 3w 1d ago) 2016-05-23T12:36:16 < dongs> i guess im not leet enough 2016-05-23T12:36:38 < dongs> the other channel im in on efnet is 20 years old 2016-05-23T12:36:49 < dongs> lol |: 2016-05-23T12:37:15 < ReadError> stonertronics? 2016-05-23T12:37:35 < dongs> no 2016-05-23T12:38:05 < ReadError> im part of the channel on efnet that had the most deaths 2016-05-23T12:38:20 < ReadError> ODs 2016-05-23T12:38:24 < ReadError> whats that get me 2016-05-23T12:38:47 < dongs> the fact that you're stonererror 2016-05-23T12:38:55 < jpa-> here they closed the local university's irc server (IRCNet) and told people "go to facebook like normal people" 2016-05-23T12:39:01 < PeterM> Registered : May 03 14:39:30 2006 is that before or after the "final solution" 2016-05-23T12:40:05 < ReadError> you know whats lame 2016-05-23T12:40:06 < ReadError> slck 2016-05-23T12:40:08 < ReadError> slack* 2016-05-23T12:40:29 < ReadError> bootleg ass irc wannabe shit 2016-05-23T12:40:59 < jpa-> yeah, it's pretty wannabe-irc, though makes sense for those who want just irc-like thing without being cool enough for real irc :) 2016-05-23T12:41:18 < dongs> slack wat 2016-05-23T12:41:20 < ReadError> fortunately they can enable the irc gateway 2016-05-23T12:41:25 < dongs> i forgot wat the purpose of ircnet was 2016-05-23T12:41:28 < ReadError> so you can connect using a normal client 2016-05-23T12:41:31 < dongs> i know dalnet was like childporn 2016-05-23T12:41:36 < dongs> efnet = warez and packet kiddies 2016-05-23T12:41:36 < ReadError> dongs its irc for bizness 2016-05-23T12:41:41 < ReadError> that keeps logs 2016-05-23T12:41:41 < dongs> since when? 2016-05-23T12:41:46 < ReadError> and lets you post pictures 2016-05-23T12:41:47 < dongs> ircnet? 2016-05-23T12:41:48 < dongs> or slack 2016-05-23T12:41:49 < ReadError> slack 2016-05-23T12:41:54 < dongs> oh. duno i never heard of that shit 2016-05-23T12:41:59 < dongs> sounds too weeb2.0 for me to care 2016-05-23T12:42:07 < jpa-> dongs: ircnet is for finns only 2016-05-23T12:42:13 < dongs> jpa, no i'm sure i was on it 2016-05-23T12:42:15 < dongs> at some point 2016-05-23T12:42:20 < dongs> and they do have global servers 2016-05-23T12:42:28 < jpa-> :P 2016-05-23T12:42:34 < PeterM> ircnut is for strong one hand typists only 2016-05-23T12:44:08 < ReadError> wtf is on quakenet 2016-05-23T12:44:12 < ReadError> and why is it still so huge 2016-05-23T12:44:59 < zyp> gamers? 2016-05-23T12:45:07 < ReadError> ehhhh 2016-05-23T12:45:49 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-23T12:46:15 < ReadError> https://www.quakenet.org/statistics' 2016-05-23T12:46:17 < ReadError> https://www.quakenet.org/statistics 2016-05-23T12:46:18 < ReadError> shits odd 2016-05-23T12:46:21 < ReadError> 1 channel per user 2016-05-23T12:50:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T12:57:20 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T13:07:45 < dongs> err 38000 users on quakenet? 2016-05-23T13:07:49 < dongs> they had 300k yearsa go 2016-05-23T13:08:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T13:15:40 < ReadError> i should sell some drone shit and buy a phantom 4 2016-05-23T13:16:14 < dongs> < ReadError> i should sell some clone shit and buy a phantom 4 2016-05-23T13:16:15 < dongs> ftfy 2016-05-23T13:16:32 < ReadError> huh no, i have highly innovative handcrafted things 2016-05-23T13:16:39 < ReadError> 1offs 2016-05-23T13:18:17 < PeterM> ReadError buys chinadrones, assembles them and ebays them for 500% markup 2016-05-23T13:18:37 < ReadError> i wish 2016-05-23T13:27:33 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T13:28:32 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T13:36:13 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T13:37:10 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T13:40:49 < Steffanx> Mr andrew 13 years a diehard lurker!? 2016-05-23T13:50:29 < ReadError> hmm looks like my xray thing will be here today 2016-05-23T13:50:38 < ReadError> pew pew 2016-05-23T13:54:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T14:06:16 < ReadError> mmmmmbop 2016-05-23T14:06:45 < ReadError> oh damn 2016-05-23T14:06:54 < ReadError> my film and developer is out for delivery too 2016-05-23T14:07:05 < ReadError> need to rtfm really quick 2016-05-23T14:07:19 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T14:07:40 < Rob235> mornin 2016-05-23T14:07:42 < ReadError> damn, was going to order some more zanos 2016-05-23T14:07:50 < ReadError> and they raised the price to 8.30 ;( 2016-05-23T14:08:07 < dongs> thats cuz orange is out of stock, no? 2016-05-23T14:08:10 < Rob235> no they didn't, I bought the last orange ones at 6.60, now they only have yellow 2016-05-23T14:08:11 < dongs> or did they make orange 8.3 0t oo 2016-05-23T14:08:41 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-23T14:08:47 < ReadError> oh well i grabbed a couple more 2016-05-23T14:08:59 < Rob235> I ordered 5 orange a couple days ago 2016-05-23T14:09:05 < Rob235> then looked again and they were sold out 2016-05-23T14:09:21 < ReadError> the way they list shit is weird 2016-05-23T14:09:25 < ReadError> i was buyin up motors 2016-05-23T14:09:32 < ReadError> they have some script that list 5 2016-05-23T14:09:38 < ReadError> as they sell they add more 2016-05-23T14:09:58 < ReadError> but ya seems they are actually out of orange 2016-05-23T14:10:27 < Rob235> can you buy replacement blades for these? 2016-05-23T14:10:40 < dongs> Rob235: yeah but how did you manage to break them? 2016-05-23T14:10:43 < dongs> they have fucking prop guards 2016-05-23T14:10:51 < dongs> and comewiht 4 spares 2016-05-23T14:10:54 < Rob235> I've broken 2 already and one is bent 2016-05-23T14:10:54 < dongs> are you that bad at flying 2016-05-23T14:10:57 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-23T14:10:58 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-23T14:11:02 < dongs> you sux 2016-05-23T14:11:17 < Rob235> I never flew anything before and learning in my small apartment isn't the best way to learn :) 2016-05-23T14:11:20 < Rob235> I'm better at it now 2016-05-23T14:12:25 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-320A-Speed-Controller-ESC-For-RC-Car-boart-1-8-1-10-Truck-Buggy-UL-/161863547573 2016-05-23T14:12:35 < ReadError> these are pretty cheap and handy to have around 2016-05-23T14:12:35 < dongs> lmao 2016-05-23T14:12:39 < ReadError> nofuckingway its 320A 2016-05-23T14:12:42 < dongs> man that guy has all this shit 2016-05-23T14:12:48 < dongs> anything else worth buyin from there? 2016-05-23T14:12:52 < ReadError> looking now 2016-05-23T14:13:10 < dongs> haha that wire out of that esc 2016-05-23T14:13:12 < dongs> its like 20A max 2016-05-23T14:13:17 < dongs> its wat, awg16 or o smeshit? 2016-05-23T14:13:19 < dongs> lololl 2016-05-23T14:13:43 < PeterM> you probably could do a 320A rated ESC in that formfactor, but wire would be heaps bigger 2016-05-23T14:13:46 < dongs> hmm he sells turnigy replacement parts 2016-05-23T14:13:54 < PeterM> also lol brushed 2016-05-23T14:14:00 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BGC-3-0-MOS-Gimbal-Controller-Driver-Two-axis-Brushless-Motor-SL-/162011359973 crazy cheap 2016-05-23T14:14:25 < dongs> lol gayball who cares 2016-05-23T14:14:32 < dongs> do they have 1/10 truck wheels 2016-05-23T14:14:40 < dongs> im too fucking lazy to glue mine 2016-05-23T14:15:24 < dongs> hm he jsut have those fucking dumb escs 2016-05-23T14:16:32 < dongs> i bought some fucking wheels+tires 2016-05-23T14:16:35 < ReadError> dongs http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-6S-Lipo-20A-OPTO-ESC-Speed-Controllers-for-Multi-Rotor-Copter-Aircraft-QK-/161990426788 2016-05-23T14:16:37 < dongs> and they need to b e GLUED TOGETHER 2016-05-23T14:16:40 < ReadError> solid buy for resell 2016-05-23T14:17:07 < dongs> wuuuuuut 2016-05-23T14:17:11 < dongs> its bs_nfet 2016-05-23T14:17:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-210.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T14:17:14 < dongs> with a 7805 2016-05-23T14:17:17 < dongs> > 2-6S 2016-05-23T14:17:18 < dongs> wat 2016-05-23T14:17:31 < Rob235> any better deals than: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-x-Quantity-of-Cheerson-CX-30w-Propeller-Blades-Props-Rotor-Set-Main-Blades-Red-/121575128576?hash=item1c4e713e00:g:T0QAAOSwstxU5pie ? 2016-05-23T14:17:33 < ReadError> yea ztw spiders are legit 2016-05-23T14:17:55 < dongs> Rob235: that asshole is in USA 2016-05-23T14:18:06 < dongs> $10 for 6, fuck off 2016-05-23T14:18:11 < dongs> 5k zano props sold for liek $10 2016-05-23T14:18:22 < Rob235> hmmm 2016-05-23T14:19:03 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-MINT-Cheerson-CX-30w-Black-Orange-Propeller-Blades-Props-5x-Propellers-USEB-/141863512044?hash=item2107b967ec:g:zX0AAOSw3KFWgerG 2016-05-23T14:19:07 < dongs> haha 2016-05-23T14:19:09 < dongs> used mint wat 2016-05-23T14:19:19 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CX-30W-Mobile-Edition-WIFI-Controlled-Quadrocopter-with-Transmitter-Controller-L-/161990425038 2016-05-23T14:19:25 < Rob235> yea I was confused by that too 2016-05-23T14:19:27 < ReadError> see it does have a real tx 2016-05-23T14:19:44 < dongs> readstoner did you take yours apart yet (copter shell) 2016-05-23T14:19:46 < dongs> to see inside pcb? 2016-05-23T14:19:48 < dongs> im to lazy 2016-05-23T14:20:07 < ReadError> nah but goebish said its supposed to use the same shit as the cx10 2016-05-23T14:20:13 < ReadError> protocol 2016-05-23T14:21:03 < dongs> so i can vind it to cx10 transmitter? 2016-05-23T14:21:06 < dongs> i ahve a bunch of those around 2016-05-23T14:21:09 < dongs> lets see 2016-05-23T14:22:12 < dongs> nup 2016-05-23T14:25:41 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T14:25:42 < Rob235> spending more on blades than the damn quad 2016-05-23T14:25:46 < Rob235> oh well ordered 2016-05-23T14:25:51 < dongs> just get the used ones 2016-05-23T14:25:53 < dongs> from usa scammer 2016-05-23T14:25:58 < Rob235> I did 2016-05-23T14:26:00 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T14:26:11 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-23T14:26:44 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/gfVntFa.jpg 2016-05-23T14:27:53 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/Design-PCB-Diptrace-from-schematic/ job 4 emeb_mac 2016-05-23T14:28:26 < dongs> PeterM: haha 2016-05-23T14:28:32 < Rob235> ugh, fire inspection people coming in a few hours, gotta hide all my shit 2016-05-23T14:29:17 < jpa-> "what's that lipo shaped object that is smoking under your mattress?" 2016-05-23T14:29:50 < dongs> i got that 24pack of leaf batts under my desk with reflow oven 2016-05-23T14:30:00 < dongs> on rolling wheels platform 2016-05-23T14:30:13 < dongs> and the rest is in my other storage room with component drawers and shti 2016-05-23T14:30:17 < zyp> did you try putting one in the oven yet? 2016-05-23T14:30:33 < dongs> i have a pretty good idea what would happen 2016-05-23T14:30:33 < dongs> so no 2016-05-23T14:30:34 < karlp> PeterM: heh :) 2016-05-23T14:31:09 < PeterM> karlp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KaHo_IyS34 2016-05-23T14:32:36 < PeterM> i (probably poorly) store most of my lipos in a metal cabilet, wiht all of my IPA and flux cleaner etc 2016-05-23T14:32:50 < PeterM> *cabinet 2016-05-23T14:33:06 < dongs> all my rc lipos are just loose on a wood desk 2016-05-23T14:33:17 < dongs> probly ~40 of htem 2016-05-23T14:33:22 < dongs> would make for a nice boom 2016-05-23T14:34:31 < Rob235> must be nice having a variety of batteries around, I only have 3 of the same kind and one is puffed up 2016-05-23T14:34:54 < dongs> a lot of mine are turdigy nanopuff 2016-05-23T14:35:37 < Rob235> 4S 5800mah batteries don't have many uses, I'm gonna need some smaller stuff 2016-05-23T14:36:52 < PeterM> dongs im sure the nice wood desk is covered in boxes and shti too 2016-05-23T14:37:03 < dongs> yes 2016-05-23T14:37:03 < PeterM> many other types of kindling 2016-05-23T14:37:12 < dongs> bunch of lipos are in a paper box too 2016-05-23T14:37:14 < dongs> cardboard 2016-05-23T14:37:24 < dongs> the other bunch are just strewn around 2016-05-23T14:38:31 < zyp> I think mine is in a cardboard box somewhere since moving 2016-05-23T14:39:16 < Rob235> 7:30AM, time to smoke 2016-05-23T14:40:10 < Steffanx> -_- 2016-05-23T14:41:04 < Rob235> it's the end of may, why is it so cold 2016-05-23T14:41:54 < jpa-> it's warm here 2016-05-23T14:41:59 < Rob235> where is here 2016-05-23T14:42:09 < dongs> its fucking 28C here at day today 2016-05-23T14:42:28 < zyp> 13C here 2016-05-23T14:42:45 < zyp> was 20+ for a few days two weeks ago 2016-05-23T14:42:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T14:43:11 < Rob235> ahh it's going to be 20 today but its 13 now 2016-05-23T14:43:18 < jpa-> 21 here 2016-05-23T14:43:22 < zyp> looks like it'll be hitting 20 again in the weekend 2016-05-23T14:43:32 < ReadError> 12 here 2016-05-23T14:48:40 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/Wib6TU.jpg 2016-05-23T14:48:44 < ReadError> cool feature 2016-05-23T14:48:55 < dongs> for ohsix? 2016-05-23T14:50:12 < ReadError> nah i dont use ignore its a PITA 2016-05-23T14:50:29 < ReadError> this guy is just on a shitty german connection that joins/parts every minute 2016-05-23T14:53:44 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T14:53:58 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-23T14:53:58 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T14:57:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T15:21:21 < karlp> PeterM: score, thanks, still working my way thorugh somr french stuff right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsLo22wynuA&list=PLfwDgcTF0-rg3MKtG3-FcgnSkCALWul9D&index=9 2016-05-23T15:47:45 < Rob235> hrmmmm 2016-05-23T15:50:31 < Rob235> what to do... 2016-05-23T15:50:45 < Rob235> clean, drone, homework, watch a movie or something 2016-05-23T15:51:52 < dongs> get stoned 2016-05-23T15:52:10 < Rob235> heh I was already packing the bowl, but that only takes a sec, what do I do after 2016-05-23T15:52:25 < Rob235> I should probably do hw 2016-05-23T15:56:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T15:56:39 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-84-48.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T16:01:52 < Rob235> 2 dabs in a row isn't conducive to doing homework right after... I think I'll relax for a bit first 2016-05-23T16:02:17 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-23T16:08:49 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-84-48.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T16:10:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/buy-your-inventions-projects-hardware/ found crt's employer 2016-05-23T16:11:09 < dongs> Retain high efficiency and dramatically shrink board space with the TPS54A20, the industry's highest density 10A, 10MHz, DC/DC converter, which is as much as 7x smaller than conventional converters. 2016-05-23T16:11:10 < Rob235> ha 2016-05-23T16:11:47 < dongs> if it only had wider Vin i could use it for superchargerPRO 2016-05-23T16:12:29 < dongs> aandrew: https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Microcontroller/Interface-program-testing-app-firmmare/ you've been obsoleted 2016-05-23T16:12:35 < dongs> when you can get this done for $200 form pakistan 2016-05-23T16:13:11 < dongs> hangs? 2016-05-23T16:14:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-210.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-23T16:15:34 < dongs> stoned 2016-05-23T16:15:42 < ReadError> http://www.readytoflyquads.com/aikon-sefm-30a-blheli-s-muiltshot 2016-05-23T16:15:46 < ReadError> tehehehe 2016-05-23T16:15:58 < ReadError> all aboard the new hype train 2016-05-23T16:16:00 < ReadError> chooochoooo 2016-05-23T16:16:22 < ReadError> bring high performance through hardware PWM and the Silabs Busybee line of microprocessors. Aikon SEFM 30A speedcontrollers. Busybee processor with hardware PWM timer. Has smoother RPM transition compared to a 'regular' BLHeli esc. 2016-05-23T16:16:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-61.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T16:17:20 < Laurenceb_> wtf did i just read 2016-05-23T16:17:24 < dongs> paul still can't english 2016-05-23T16:17:33 < Laurenceb_> https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/05/23/0334232/nevada-startup-stores-energy-with-trains 2016-05-23T16:17:37 < Laurenceb_> not sure if troll 2016-05-23T16:17:57 < Laurenceb_> inb4 mantrain 2016-05-23T16:17:58 < ReadError> Finally Got shipping notice! Orders will ship Tuesday - Wensday or possabile Thrusday 2016-05-23T16:18:05 < ReadError> how.... 2016-05-23T16:18:15 < ReadError> every browser has the red squiggly line 2016-05-23T16:18:29 < ReadError> count the typos in that sentence lol 2016-05-23T16:20:12 < PaulFertser> ReadError: lynx doesn't 2016-05-23T16:20:41 < ReadError> we can safely assume that this guy doesnt use lunix or lynx 2016-05-23T16:20:49 < Laurenceb_> lul lynx 2016-05-23T16:21:09 < Laurenceb_> yeah but for full RMS you download and view the html in emacs 2016-05-23T16:21:14 < dongs> yanno he's just dumb enough to get someone to install jewbunto for him and just open a browser fullscreen. 2016-05-23T16:21:33 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb_: there's emacs-w3m to do that. It's actually usable, with pictures, tables, tabs. 2016-05-23T16:21:38 < Laurenceb_> oh god 2016-05-23T16:21:40 < Laurenceb_> whyyyy 2016-05-23T16:23:43 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb_: all-familiar keybindings, easy cut/paste including rectangular areas, fast switch between buffers (e.g. you're reading an article and copying code from there to your source files). Just uniform interface. Also, someone familiar with elisp but not with JS can prefer to automate some web-based tasks this way. 2016-05-23T16:24:32 < Laurenceb_> lul prob better than failfox 2016-05-23T16:24:49 < PaulFertser> For certain usecases, IMHO, yes. 2016-05-23T16:25:56 < PaulFertser> I mean, if you're already used to work with text in Emacs, why text from "web" should be any different? 2016-05-23T16:27:03 < Laurenceb_> actually I use gedit 2016-05-23T16:27:08 < Laurenceb_> its actually user friendly 2016-05-23T16:27:25 < dongs> lol, all the gnome apps feel like they were started as jokes 2016-05-23T16:27:31 < dongs> to either 1) copy something KDE did badly 2016-05-23T16:27:36 < dongs> 2) copy something windows did even worse 2016-05-23T16:27:43 < dongs> 3) just as " me too " joke that got carried away 2016-05-23T16:27:57 < dongs> i mean how many fucking text editors does lunix need? 2016-05-23T16:28:24 < PaulFertser> Evince viewer actually works and relatively lightweight, and supports the fucking PDF forms. 2016-05-23T16:28:25 < Laurenceb_> dunno I tried a few and gedit was non lame 2016-05-23T16:28:31 < PaulFertser> Evince is part of gnome. 2016-05-23T16:29:12 < Laurenceb_> Evince breaks with editable pdf forms when I try it 2016-05-23T16:29:32 < Laurenceb_> well - sometimes it breaks 2016-05-23T16:29:34 < PaulFertser> Worked for me. Well, do it with gedit and pdftk then ;) 2016-05-23T16:29:45 < Laurenceb_> at least it doesnt kill the cpu and ram like firefox pdf 2016-05-23T16:30:13 < Laurenceb_> is firefox pdf written in javascript? 2016-05-23T16:30:18 < PaulFertser> Yes 2016-05-23T16:30:24 < Laurenceb_> oh god 2016-05-23T16:30:33 < PaulFertser> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/ 2016-05-23T16:30:50 < Rob235> how quickly does acetone dissolve super glue? the glue is on plastic and I don't want to mess up the plastic, it should be fine right? 2016-05-23T16:31:01 < Laurenceb_> I've never tried 2016-05-23T16:31:07 < dongs> there's plastic/foam safe superglue 2016-05-23T16:31:10 -!- ferrim [~ferrim@45.42.210.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T16:31:14 < Rob235> well too late :) 2016-05-23T16:31:32 < Laurenceb_> but according to datasheets for some superglues it either doesnt dissolve or takes about a year to cause 50% strength loss 2016-05-23T16:31:36 < Ecco> I'm pretty sure Acetone will fuck your plastic before even doing anything to the supeglue 2016-05-23T16:31:58 < Laurenceb_> yeah, if you have the wroing plastic 2016-05-23T16:31:59 < Rob235> my gf got some on her glasses and acetone took it right off 2016-05-23T16:32:03 < Ecco> It'll probably dissolve your plastic and leave you with a virtually untouched, reverse-molded superglue 2016-05-23T16:32:11 < ReadError> look for 'odorless CA' 2016-05-23T16:32:16 < ReadError> thats foamsafe 2016-05-23T16:32:23 < Laurenceb_> Rob235: maybe if wasnt cured 2016-05-23T16:32:32 < Ecco> well foamsafe CA is pretty crappy though 2016-05-23T16:32:43 < Ecco> (when you don't need to glue foam, that is) 2016-05-23T16:32:43 < Laurenceb_> most pro superglues have proper datasheets with material resistance 2016-05-23T16:32:51 < Rob235> I think it was on there over a day, anyway I guess I'll just have to try 2016-05-23T16:33:08 < Laurenceb_> usually its either acetone resistant or stands up to acetone for _ages_ 2016-05-23T16:33:24 < PaulFertser> Rob235: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide dissolves super glue without damaging much of anything else, available in drugstores. 2016-05-23T16:36:42 < Rob235> http://www.gorillatough.com/sites/default/files/Gorilla%20Super%20Glue%20-%20North%20America%20SDS_1.pdf 2016-05-23T16:42:24 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@167-88-22-231.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T16:45:20 -!- ferrim [~ferrim@45.42.210.125] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-05-23T16:47:40 < Laurenceb_> does electrically conductive grease actually work? 2016-05-23T16:48:42 * Laurenceb_ is thinking of using some to make a quick release connector 2016-05-23T16:49:03 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T16:54:48 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T17:07:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T17:07:19 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T17:07:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T17:33:34 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T17:33:54 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T17:37:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T17:39:04 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T17:39:23 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T17:40:33 < karlp> Laurenceb_: that train storage, I mean, it's similar to pumped hydro, so is it more efficient at pushing back up the hill? I don't really imagine it's more efficient at generating by rolling down the tracks 2016-05-23T17:44:05 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T17:44:25 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T17:44:27 < zyp> karlp, hmm? 2016-05-23T17:50:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-23T17:56:59 < karlp> some slashdot thing about some nevadad dudes using a train on a hill to store and generate electricity 2016-05-23T17:57:58 < zyp> ah 2016-05-23T17:59:00 < zyp> efficiency is probably similar to pumped hydro, but it's probably more expensive 2016-05-23T17:59:18 < zyp> wrt. energy capacity 2016-05-23T17:59:38 < zyp> if you need to store more energy, just add more water 2016-05-23T18:03:06 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T18:03:25 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:05:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:15:17 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:19:48 < aandrew> dongs: indeed. I hope he finds his $200 developer 2016-05-23T18:31:41 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T18:33:06 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-23T18:33:21 < Laurenceb_> well more importantly 2016-05-23T18:33:25 < Laurenceb_> trains arent that heavy 2016-05-23T18:37:05 < zyp> exactly, that's what I mean by energy capacity 2016-05-23T18:38:06 < Laurenceb_> got you 2016-05-23T18:38:56 < Laurenceb_> underground compressed air storage seems to make sense, but all the startups working on it are going bankrupt for some reason 2016-05-23T18:39:08 < Laurenceb_> maybe they need more app store and Node.js 2016-05-23T18:41:29 < zyp> are there any significant differences between conventional and pumped hydro, except that pumped hydro can get the water back up again? 2016-05-23T18:42:12 < Laurenceb_> I'm guessing the turbines are different 2016-05-23T18:43:17 < zyp> I'm just thinking that pumped hydro could be relatively cheap to add to existing plants 2016-05-23T18:44:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-61.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-23T18:44:17 < Laurenceb_> interesting idea 2016-05-23T18:44:30 < Laurenceb_> or just run the plant as peaking power 2016-05-23T18:44:35 < Laurenceb_> thats done already 2016-05-23T18:44:57 < Laurenceb_> sort of 50% of the way to pumped hydro 2016-05-23T18:45:01 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-23T18:45:15 < Laurenceb_> http://phys.org/news/2007-12-aim-harness-sperm-power-nano-robots.html 2016-05-23T18:45:20 < Laurenceb_> the future of energy 2016-05-23T18:47:10 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T18:47:29 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:49:25 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:51:48 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f770fce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:54:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e450e255.629-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T18:55:33 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-23T18:55:58 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:01:46 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:02:27 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:05:48 < Tectu> BrainDamage, ping 2016-05-23T19:13:18 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T19:13:41 < ReadError> uncle flyback, please tell us a butt-time story 2016-05-23T19:13:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-23T19:15:10 < Laurenceb_> flyback is obsessed with his butt 2016-05-23T19:15:21 < Laurenceb_> like a certain "sarah" 2016-05-23T19:15:54 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-23T19:19:18 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T19:20:35 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:27:07 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@142-165-132-47.sktn.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T19:27:25 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@142-165-132-47.sktn.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:27:43 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:35:19 < Laurenceb_> https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/p/2/005/0b7/02e/17cbfdb.jpg 2016-05-23T19:39:15 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T19:39:22 < Steffanx> your gf mr Laurenceb_? 2016-05-23T19:39:35 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:42:31 < Laurenceb_> nope, here is the before pic https://36.media.tumblr.com/1c26dafd370cfb8c5f64f1a11f781f50/tumblr_inline_o1ei6mZtGe1t572nb_540.jpg 2016-05-23T19:44:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T19:48:51 < Steffanx> it seems he/she is much happier now. 2016-05-23T19:49:31 < Laurenceb_> it 2016-05-23T19:50:27 < upgrdman> with accelerometers, is the unit mg or mG? i see mg, but isn't lowercase g for grams 2016-05-23T19:52:21 < zyp> how about m/s**2? 2016-05-23T19:53:05 < Steffanx> that's too much si. 2016-05-23T19:55:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T19:55:55 < jpa-> in my ebike, i used both mg and m/s^2.. bad idea, choose one :) 2016-05-23T19:56:07 < jpa-> if you aim to make any physics calculations, m/s^2 makes more sense 2016-05-23T19:57:18 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-23T19:57:35 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:15:27 < upgrdman> why an accelerometer on an ebike? 2016-05-23T20:15:36 < upgrdman> to measure how much of a pounding your ass is receiving? 2016-05-23T20:15:41 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-23T20:16:06 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:22:40 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-23T20:22:48 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T20:23:06 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:23:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.65] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:24:57 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:31:18 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T20:31:45 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:31:48 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:31:54 < englishman> Laurenceb_ made the cover page http://i.imgur.com/mM0DWQN.jpg?1 2016-05-23T20:33:02 < ReadError> black women opens up about mental health? 2016-05-23T20:36:20 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T20:36:38 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:46:22 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:48:50 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T20:48:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-23T20:49:08 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:50:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:51:44 < Tectu> "The machine has a speed of 3.2 GHz and 500 Gigabytes of storage" 2016-05-23T20:51:51 < Tectu> "and is now the most popular in the family" 2016-05-23T20:51:57 < Tectu> "build a computer for his bedrom" 2016-05-23T20:52:04 < Tectu> "May 2016" the fuck am I reading 2016-05-23T20:52:07 < Tectu> also, nigger. wtf. 2016-05-23T20:52:23 < Rob235> seriously man? 2016-05-23T20:52:25 < Rob235> grow up 2016-05-23T20:52:51 < Tectu> the last one was just to say something that Laurenceb_ understands 2016-05-23T20:53:00 < Laurenceb_> serious news 2016-05-23T20:53:15 < Laurenceb_> Rob235 sounds butthurt 2016-05-23T20:53:42 < Laurenceb_> im also butthurt as I'm very proud of my computer 2016-05-23T20:54:01 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@167-88-22-231.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T20:54:08 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, is that magazine even a real thing???? Britan's top black weekly... 2016-05-23T20:54:11 < Rob235> I am, its shit like that that's the reason for trump and other nonsense 2016-05-23T20:54:20 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-23T20:54:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T20:54:37 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: yeah we get it in my household 2016-05-23T20:55:21 < Laurenceb_> Rob235 got trolld 2016-05-23T20:55:45 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-23T20:55:47 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, well scum magazines for scum households, right? 2016-05-23T20:56:07 < Laurenceb_> well... as a black guy I support my community 2016-05-23T20:56:41 < Tectu> It's important to blend in well 2016-05-23T20:57:35 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ will build himself an isis bombing rockoon soon. 2016-05-23T20:58:17 < Steffanx> Hows the rockoon Laurenceb_? 2016-05-23T20:59:05 < Tectu> rockoon? -__- 2016-05-23T20:59:37 < Tectu> apparently that's a real thing. Thought that would be some silly rocket/racoon joke 2016-05-23T20:59:47 < Tectu> which it probably is anyway 2016-05-23T21:00:09 < Rob235> finally, fire inspector guy came and left, time to smoke 2016-05-23T21:00:36 < Tectu> stop vaping. 2016-05-23T21:02:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-23T21:04:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e450e255.629-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-23T21:04:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T21:06:36 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T21:09:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.72] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T21:10:07 < Rob235> grrr another 3 leds to replace: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8ibwgluj03hd9b/20160523_140140_00_2097.mp4?dl=0 2016-05-23T21:10:16 < Steffanx> baloonrocket Tectu 2016-05-23T21:12:36 < englishman> vaping so much, the neighbours saw your clouds and called the fire dept 2016-05-23T21:23:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-12b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T21:24:22 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T21:24:54 < Rob235> you know how you are supposed to put a capacitor as close to the start of a led strip as possible? would it still work if it was 0.6m away? 2016-05-23T21:25:37 < Rob235> I really need to learn the fundamentals of electronics at some point... 2016-05-23T21:25:44 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T21:26:19 < ReadError> your supposed to have a cap before each LED 2016-05-23T21:26:36 < Rob235> well thats part of the strip but those are small 2016-05-23T21:26:45 < Rob235> I've read that you should put a big cap at the start of the strip 2016-05-23T21:27:05 < ReadError> 0.6m is pretty fuckin far 2016-05-23T21:27:22 < ReadError> i vote: rip all this led shit off 2016-05-23T21:27:23 < ReadError> fly it 2016-05-23T21:27:27 < Rob235> yea I thought so, I have a better idea to put it right on the strip 2016-05-23T21:27:45 < Rob235> it's not ready yet and I'm not really working on it, I gotta focus on school right now :( 2016-05-23T21:27:58 < Rob235> just thinking about it right now 2016-05-23T21:28:19 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T21:28:32 < Rob235> and why would I rip them off? I could just have them not turn on :) 2016-05-23T21:29:01 < ReadError> so you arent tempted 2016-05-23T21:29:38 < Rob235> I'm extremely tempted but I know its all or nothing and I'll get hooked and forget about school so I'm setting priorities for once 2016-05-23T21:30:17 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T21:33:41 < Tectu> fuck school 2016-05-23T21:33:47 < Rob235> ha 2016-05-23T21:33:49 < Rob235> I'm so close 2016-05-23T21:34:18 < Rob235> 5 more months 2016-05-23T21:34:55 < Tectu> 11 here 2016-05-23T21:35:34 < Steffanx> -many here. 2016-05-23T21:36:24 < Rob235> my degree won't mean much though so I'm hoping this drone project helps me stand out 2016-05-23T21:36:33 < Steffanx> what is mr Rob235 studying? 2016-05-23T21:36:54 < Rob235> computer science but it's an online university so I don't know how seriously it will be taken 2016-05-23T21:37:25 < Tectu> like paid stuff? 2016-05-23T21:37:26 < Rob235> they were granted university status a few months ago from the state 2016-05-23T21:37:35 < Rob235> yea 2016-05-23T21:37:47 < Rob235> its a BA 2016-05-23T21:37:52 < Rob235> why not BS? I don't know 2016-05-23T21:38:17 < Tectu> the fuck is BA? 2016-05-23T21:38:38 < Rob235> bachelor of arts vs bachelor of science 2016-05-23T21:39:02 < Tectu> you get a bachelor of arts in computer science? wut? 2016-05-23T21:39:18 < Rob235> when I went to rutgers they had the option, the BS just required a few extra science classes like physics, which I took there 2016-05-23T21:40:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T21:41:39 < Laurenceb_> online university... 2016-05-23T21:41:44 < Laurenceb_> well good luck with that 2016-05-23T21:43:07 < Steffanx> isn't that a pretty common thing in yankeeland? 2016-05-23T21:43:30 < Rob235> I don't know about things like comp sci and engineering... I guess I'll find out 2016-05-23T21:43:57 < Rob235> there are a lot of shitty ones that don't mean crap but I think I chose a decent one 2016-05-23T21:44:12 < Rob235> accredited and like I said was at least approved university status 2016-05-23T21:44:28 < Tectu> "online university" == "Lynda" 2016-05-23T21:44:55 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-23T21:45:20 < Rob235> is Lynda a receptionist? 2016-05-23T21:45:48 < Tectu> lynda.com 2016-05-23T21:46:09 < Tectu> online learning video stuff 2016-05-23T21:46:23 < Tectu> pretty popular. even real universities supply their students with accounts these days 2016-05-23T21:46:27 < Rob235> ahh yea but that would help me even less 2016-05-23T21:46:39 < englishman> online university = wikipedia 2016-05-23T21:46:45 < englishman> and sometimes stackexchange 2016-05-23T21:46:55 < Tectu> that ^ 2016-05-23T21:47:07 < Tectu> hard to meet girls there, though. 2016-05-23T21:47:29 < zyp> you've tried? 2016-05-23T21:47:48 < Tectu> nah, statement based on assumptions 2016-05-23T21:48:05 < zyp> what's the point of such statements? 2016-05-23T21:48:09 < Tectu> err, that reminds me that we got a new batch of UK exchange students. I should ask them if they know Laurenceb_ 2016-05-23T21:48:30 < englishman> ask them specifically about 8chan friends 2016-05-23T21:48:32 < Tectu> zyp, keeping myself from focusing on the work I should do 2016-05-23T21:48:39 < englishman> and which pony they identify as 2016-05-23T21:49:21 < Tectu> most of them are girls, they don't do that shit 2016-05-23T21:56:57 < Laurenceb_> depends if they are camwhores 2016-05-23T21:57:17 < Tectu> well two of them actually are 2016-05-23T21:57:28 < Tectu> doing master / PhD thesis on some real time computer vision crap with fancy cams 2016-05-23T21:57:37 < Laurenceb_> lul Tectu has been researching 2016-05-23T21:57:38 < Laurenceb_> oh 2016-05-23T21:57:39 < Tectu> I wonder if I should engage a conversation based on a camwhore joke... 2016-05-23T21:58:11 < Laurenceb_> my cousin is a famous 4chan camwhore 2016-05-23T21:58:24 < englishman> link? 2016-05-23T21:58:25 < Laurenceb_> ^ anti fap comment 2016-05-23T21:58:35 < Laurenceb_> now you will never know 2016-05-23T21:58:45 < englishman> voidh 2016-05-23T22:04:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-23T22:04:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T22:06:02 < Steffanx> Harry has no family. 2016-05-23T22:11:33 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-23T22:14:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-23T22:15:08 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-23T22:23:44 < Laurenceb_> trolltastic 2016-05-23T22:24:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T22:29:30 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BybPPIMuQQ 2016-05-23T22:30:23 < Steffanx> Should i really watch the entire 2 hours Laurenceb_? 2016-05-23T22:30:47 < Laurenceb_> I'm too lazy to work out if its troll or not 2016-05-23T22:35:08 < Steffanx> Will your life be complete when you do figure it out. If not, then don't. 2016-05-23T22:35:16 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-23T22:36:24 < Steffanx> The horse thing is no longer a thing mr Laurenceb_? 2016-05-23T22:37:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T22:37:14 < Laurenceb_> its in slow lane atm 2016-05-23T22:37:29 < Laurenceb_> have a few months before next "milestone" 2016-05-23T22:37:38 < Laurenceb_> stupid Gantt charts 2016-05-23T22:38:23 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, LOL doing exactly the same right now 2016-05-23T22:39:29 < Laurenceb_> heh I use latex to draw them :D 2016-05-23T22:39:40 < Tectu> M$ project here 2016-05-23T22:39:49 < Tectu> cuz I'm a real manager you knaw dawg 2016-05-23T22:39:54 < Laurenceb_> ah I liek my opensource 2016-05-23T22:40:31 < Laurenceb_> well I answer to a manager who can't even use a PC so everything is pdf and print 2016-05-23T22:40:43 < Steffanx> He can pdf? 2016-05-23T22:40:55 < Laurenceb_> no but he can paper 2016-05-23T22:41:23 < Laurenceb_> and 18 year old wife 2016-05-23T22:41:41 < Steffanx> Everyone has to be good at something.. 2016-05-23T22:41:47 < Laurenceb_> but I'll shut up cuz this channel is logged 2016-05-23T22:42:03 < Steffanx> your stuff does not show up in the logs 2016-05-23T22:42:10 < Laurenceb_> lulwut 2016-05-23T22:42:10 < Steffanx> just like mr oh6 and r2com. 2016-05-23T22:42:21 < Laurenceb_> I'm on the naughty list? 2016-05-23T22:42:49 < Laurenceb_> I'm illegal in Europe? 2016-05-23T22:42:57 < Steffanx> Brexti it real. 2016-05-23T22:43:01 < Steffanx> *is 2016-05-23T22:43:13 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-23T22:43:24 < Laurenceb_> Brexit is coming soon 2016-05-23T22:44:05 < Laurenceb_> Brexit will be like Scottish independence, just keep voting until desired result 2016-05-23T22:44:52 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-23T22:45:08 < zyp> what's the rationale between brexit anyway? 2016-05-23T22:45:23 < Laurenceb_> Scotland should join Quebec and form new country 2016-05-23T22:45:31 < Laurenceb_> zyp: no Poles everywhere 2016-05-23T22:45:53 < Laurenceb_> Suddenly. Poles. Everywhere. 2016-05-23T22:51:22 < Laurenceb_> also net cash flow is out of UK 2016-05-23T22:51:47 < englishman> and into ISIS 2016-05-23T22:52:08 < englishman> it was same tactics with quebec 2016-05-23T22:52:19 < englishman> oh you said no last referendum? heres another 2016-05-23T22:52:23 < Steffanx> quebec is independent now? 2016-05-23T22:52:23 < englishman> like rape 2016-05-23T22:52:29 < englishman> say no 10000x, say yes once 2016-05-23T22:52:40 < Steffanx> no more EU for fir quebec? 2016-05-23T22:52:45 < Steffanx> *o 2016-05-23T22:53:10 < englishman> no Steffanx but two referendums was enough to drive out many businesses permanently 2016-05-23T22:53:47 < Laurenceb_> lul Quebec leaves Canade and joins EU 2016-05-23T22:54:23 < Tectu> we should hire trump to build a wall 2016-05-23T22:54:31 < englishman> building a bridge to st pierre et miquelon = bridge to europe right 2016-05-23T22:55:24 < Laurenceb_> Trump is making the Horses pay for my ECG monitor 2016-05-23T22:56:01 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T22:58:51 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T22:59:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T23:00:22 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-23T23:00:43 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T23:01:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-23T23:04:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-23T23:31:57 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f770fce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-23T23:32:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-23T23:37:04 < Rob235> nice i'll check it out thanks 2016-05-23T23:39:15 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-23T23:47:50 -!- beanbag- [~bogjumper@96.89.47.145] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T23:49:15 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.125.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-23T23:49:35 < [VEGETA]> is there a way to connect between ros and freertos? 2016-05-23T23:50:49 < Rob235> she was willing to risk it and it worked great 2016-05-23T23:52:40 < karlp> [VEGETA]: perhaps try rewording that question? 2016-05-23T23:52:55 < beanbag-> yeah I would not try that myself unless the glasses were fubar anyways 2016-05-23T23:53:11 < beanbag-> polycarb and acrylic are wusses when it comes to chemical resistance 2016-05-23T23:53:14 < [VEGETA]> i want to develop a robot controlled by 2 boards, one using ROS and the other FreeRTOS 2016-05-23T23:53:42 < [VEGETA]> ros is responsible of kinect sensor and map generation with obstacles 2016-05-23T23:53:57 < [VEGETA]> freertos one controls robot movement and other stuff 2016-05-23T23:54:25 < [VEGETA]> i want a way to send map and obstacles data from ros to freertos board so it can navigate safely 2016-05-23T23:54:31 < [VEGETA]> do you have an idea? 2016-05-23T23:55:44 < zyp> I'd probably use USB between them 2016-05-23T23:56:20 < [VEGETA]> between Pi3 and stm32 boards? 2016-05-23T23:56:31 < [VEGETA]> how can i fit multiple data 2016-05-23T23:56:48 < [VEGETA]> i know a tool called rosserial to do that 2016-05-23T23:57:49 < zyp> you should probably do some more reading 2016-05-23T23:58:47 < [VEGETA]> tell me where, you look like an expert in this thing --- Day changed Tue May 24 2016 2016-05-24T00:00:37 < zyp> I have no interest in spoon-feeding you information, you should read up yourself on the relevant resources 2016-05-24T00:02:04 < [VEGETA]> zyp, I didn't ask you for spoon feeding. I explained my idea and asked a specific question 2016-05-24T00:03:56 < zyp> ohsix, there's some urinals in jp with similar shit 2016-05-24T00:04:01 < [VEGETA]> ohsix, for mapping i will use raspberry pi 3 2016-05-24T00:04:23 < zyp> haven't seen them myself, but I've heard stories from friends who've used them 2016-05-24T00:05:01 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_urinal 2016-05-24T00:05:19 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKTEhSU05Nd2xxeTA/view?usp=docslist_api farmer gettin.. stoned 2016-05-24T00:05:44 -!- beanbag- [~bogjumper@96.89.47.145] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-05-24T00:13:31 < karlp> heh, "asked a specific question" *giggles* 2016-05-24T00:15:15 < karlp> if you have a cdc-acm compliant device, and you add "extra" control requests, to like, dump out internal counters maybe, or set fifo lengths or something quirky, there's no way of accessing them from userspace if you have the regualr kernel cdc-acm driver bound is there? 2016-05-24T00:15:31 < karlp> if you put them on a different interface maybe? 2016-05-24T00:15:43 < karlp> can two apps have the same config but different interfaces open properly? 2016-05-24T00:18:32 < [VEGETA]> freertos works with mbed? 2016-05-24T00:18:42 < karlp> that's not entirely what i mean, that's another standard interface also handled by the kernel, the mass storage portion 2016-05-24T00:18:43 < [VEGETA]> i though of using eclipse+gcc 2016-05-24T00:18:47 < karlp> it's just a regular composite gadget 2016-05-24T00:18:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T00:22:49 < karlp> yes, that's regular composite. 2016-05-24T00:22:50 < karlp> nvm. 2016-05-24T00:22:52 < [VEGETA]> there is a ros package called rosserial that does the job 2016-05-24T00:23:09 < [VEGETA]> however, it doesn't have stm32 lib or freertos one 2016-05-24T00:23:32 < [VEGETA]> but it has mbed one 2016-05-24T00:25:58 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.125.117] has quit [Quit: Until we meet again...!] 2016-05-24T00:26:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-24T00:44:24 < karlp> hgeh, fancyu :) 2016-05-24T00:45:08 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-12b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-24T00:52:01 * Laurenceb_ is trying to get motivated enough to work on journal articles :-/ 2016-05-24T00:52:08 < Laurenceb_> scientific publishing sucks 2016-05-24T00:54:37 < Laurenceb_> I want to get some papers published with my name as principal author 2016-05-24T00:54:45 < Laurenceb_> mainly as a CV thing 2016-05-24T00:54:48 < Laurenceb_> this was a bad idea 2016-05-24T00:55:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T00:55:48 < Laurenceb_> try to find co-authors then get into massive email ragefest then get rejected by 6 journals etc 2016-05-24T00:56:09 < Laurenceb_> I have 15 co-authors and each one hates every other one 2016-05-24T00:56:49 < Laurenceb_> I have tried to solve the problem by telling them I'm giving up 2016-05-24T00:57:13 < Laurenceb_> now I'll just submit it by myself, and move most authors to acknowledgement section 2016-05-24T00:58:03 < Laurenceb_> but still have to draft covering letter to editors :S 2016-05-24T00:58:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.99.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T01:02:34 < Laurenceb_> co-authors boost the profile of the work 2016-05-24T01:02:52 < Laurenceb_> and you try to get them by sending random emails if you are a permanoob 2016-05-24T01:03:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T01:03:16 < Laurenceb_> but then it escalates out of control and turns into a disaster 2016-05-24T01:03:50 < Laurenceb_> well I have some cool people like the guy who wrote all the relevant ISO standards 2016-05-24T01:04:09 < Laurenceb_> but yeah its kind of like foo, bar, Einstein et al 2016-05-24T01:06:14 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-24T01:06:28 < Laurenceb_> currently Proceedings of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, Part H: Journal of Engineering in Medicine 2016-05-24T01:06:54 < Laurenceb_> its on vehicle suspension optimisation during emergency transport 2016-05-24T01:07:37 < Laurenceb_> shitty impact factory is shitty 2016-05-24T01:11:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.50.95] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-24T01:12:39 < karlp> ohsix: that bootloader patch is jsut some special program you use. 2016-05-24T01:12:57 < karlp> yeah, the readme explains it well 2016-05-24T01:16:15 < Laurenceb_> during yeah 2016-05-24T01:16:16 < Laurenceb_> bbl 2016-05-24T01:16:52 < Rob235> is it $60? 2016-05-24T01:17:10 < Rob235> hmm 2016-05-24T01:17:27 < Rob235> juarez or for sale 2016-05-24T01:17:45 < Rob235> are any systems hacked? 2016-05-24T01:18:16 < Rob235> really? how so? just bluray drive or something? 2016-05-24T01:18:40 < Rob235> firmware upgrade? or something else 2016-05-24T01:19:50 < Rob235> I just miss split screen games and there are more for consoles 2016-05-24T01:35:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T01:47:19 -!- dobson` [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T01:47:42 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: mainly vibration transfer, lots of bode plots 2016-05-24T01:48:50 -!- Simon--_ [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T01:52:01 -!- aadamson_ [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T01:52:14 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: how much using canal tunnel cost? 2016-05-24T01:52:24 < Laurenceb_> dunno never been on it 2016-05-24T01:52:58 < Laurenceb_> been in it once during construction :D 2016-05-24T01:53:02 < Laurenceb_> school trip 2016-05-24T01:53:58 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: PeterM, c4017_, ABLomas, ka6sox, dobson, indy, englishman, Nutter, Simon--, aadamson 2016-05-24T01:54:00 -!- aadamson_ is now known as aadamson 2016-05-24T01:54:05 -!- indy_ [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T01:54:06 < kakimir> what age you were? 2016-05-24T01:54:10 < kakimir> just innovation? 2016-05-24T01:54:13 < kakimir> *such 2016-05-24T01:54:17 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD25C64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-24T01:54:17 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-24T01:54:21 < Laurenceb_> about 4 2016-05-24T01:55:08 < Laurenceb_> kakimir is trying to work out if I'm a wizard yet 2016-05-24T01:55:16 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/4PS19j.jpg 2016-05-24T01:55:50 < Laurenceb_> https://i.sli.mg/Z3YywO.jpg 2016-05-24T01:55:54 < kakimir> I know if you are you are not that prominent one 2016-05-24T01:56:13 < kakimir> you are.. anon 2016-05-24T01:56:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ka6sox 2016-05-24T02:14:18 < Laurenceb_> I should make a DAMAS mic array 2016-05-24T02:14:30 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: june is sucky in finland.. I think if I get inexpensive tickets I'll then crash in your basement 2016-05-24T02:14:52 < Laurenceb_> lul I don't have a basement 2016-05-24T02:15:02 < kakimir> your moms place 2016-05-24T02:15:05 < Laurenceb_> but I have a whole house I can let you use 2016-05-24T02:15:10 < Laurenceb_> if you pay rent :P 2016-05-24T02:15:11 < kakimir> ?!! 2016-05-24T02:15:35 < kakimir> I pay 2GBP per day 2016-05-24T02:15:41 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-24T02:15:55 < kakimir> 5? 2016-05-24T02:16:10 < Laurenceb_> heh how long for? 2016-05-24T02:16:20 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: yes open cell 2016-05-24T02:16:27 < kakimir> is renting houses like a thing in UK? 2016-05-24T02:16:36 < kakimir> hey have my house 2016-05-24T02:16:37 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-24T02:16:43 < kakimir> pay me some 2016-05-24T02:17:29 < Laurenceb_> the vibration exposure is actually pretty serious 2016-05-24T02:17:45 < Laurenceb_> like at the level where it would be a workplace safety violation 2016-05-24T02:18:21 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: if you want to come to UK then I could prob find you a house to stay for a couple of weeks 2016-05-24T02:18:30 < Laurenceb_> as long as it wasnt smashed up :D 2016-05-24T02:18:55 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-24T02:19:19 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: how does it work? 2016-05-24T02:19:23 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fac_RH8izFI 2016-05-24T02:19:31 < Laurenceb_> my local pumping station 2016-05-24T02:21:23 < Laurenceb_> I'm still not sure I understand pumping 2016-05-24T02:23:13 < kakimir> 173euros to manchester 2016-05-24T02:23:24 < Laurenceb_> we have grant funding to develop air suspension stuff 2016-05-24T02:23:34 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: what do you plan to do in UK? 2016-05-24T02:23:48 < Laurenceb_> there is not much to do in my area other than troll irc 2016-05-24T02:24:01 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: visit isle of man and then go harrasing around 2016-05-24T02:27:14 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: plan to take bicycle and tent 2016-05-24T02:27:17 < kakimir> with me 2016-05-24T02:27:43 < Laurenceb_> sounds fun 2016-05-24T02:28:08 < Laurenceb_> well I'm in Derby area 2016-05-24T02:29:19 < kakimir> it's one day trip to rice from liverpool to derby 2016-05-24T02:29:55 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpwamnrfizgvklav] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T02:30:08 < Laurenceb_> well your welcome to come and hang out :D 2016-05-24T02:30:56 < kakimir> cool 2016-05-24T02:30:57 < Laurenceb_> inb4 everyone from channel turns up 2016-05-24T02:31:09 < Laurenceb_> ohsix isnt invited :P 2016-05-24T02:32:03 < Laurenceb_> you want to hang out at a university for fun O_o 2016-05-24T02:32:32 < Laurenceb_> I have my doubts 2016-05-24T02:32:53 < Laurenceb_> when you can't get people to reply to emails in <1week 2016-05-24T02:33:02 < Laurenceb_> a wax guy?! 2016-05-24T02:33:05 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-05-24T02:33:30 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T02:36:18 < Laurenceb_> mummification failed :-/ 2016-05-24T02:38:09 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T02:38:25 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T02:42:19 < kakimir> the shiet... ferry to isle of man is bout 200GBP 2016-05-24T02:42:49 < kakimir> is it the rice making prices that high or just normal price? 2016-05-24T02:43:48 < Laurenceb_> I've never been 2016-05-24T02:44:21 < Laurenceb_> https://www.steam-packet.com/ 2016-05-24T02:44:28 < Laurenceb_> says UKP17.50 2016-05-24T02:44:56 < kakimir> *infants sail free 2016-05-24T02:48:41 < kakimir> should I? 2016-05-24T02:49:47 < Laurenceb_> the #highaltitude guys dropped a balloon on his house 2016-05-24T03:10:16 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-24T03:19:01 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T03:19:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T03:23:04 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntqmxkjmrnztmhil] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T03:25:31 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/vYR9ZIM.png 2016-05-24T03:25:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T03:27:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T03:29:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-24T03:48:23 < aandrew> what happened in venezuela now? 2016-05-24T03:48:29 < aandrew> I thought they were in the process of imploding 2016-05-24T03:52:17 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/thumb/1464043070720.jpg 2016-05-24T03:56:24 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-24T03:56:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T03:56:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T04:02:27 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-24T04:09:21 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1463946435668.gif 2016-05-24T04:11:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T04:13:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T04:15:59 < dongs> cuz hanrun is too edgy 2016-05-24T04:24:15 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1463984593151.jpg 2016-05-24T04:25:56 < Laurenceb_> news for trollz 2016-05-24T04:26:24 < Laurenceb_> /cuteboys/ is for you 2016-05-24T04:26:38 < Laurenceb_> (dont visit, unless you want a seat over there) 2016-05-24T04:26:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T04:27:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T04:28:14 < Laurenceb_> 8chan party van is upgraded from 4chan 2016-05-24T04:28:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T04:28:24 < Laurenceb_> has mobile waterboarding and shit 2016-05-24T04:58:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T04:59:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T05:01:09 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Data-Entry/Find-Manufacturer-10582390/ 2016-05-24T05:01:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T05:01:11 < dongs> > manufacturer 2016-05-24T05:07:45 < Laurenceb_> http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/electronics-status-nexo/ 2016-05-24T05:09:48 < dongs> thomas scherrer? 2016-05-24T05:09:52 < dongs> the guy who made that shitty LRS? 2016-05-24T05:09:59 < dongs> for hobbytrash 2016-05-24T05:10:01 < dongs> !beep englishman 2016-05-24T05:10:16 < englishman> already clicked bro 2016-05-24T05:10:34 < dongs> wait wat, they're using piksi gps 2016-05-24T05:10:44 < dongs> the dickstarted non-starter 2016-05-24T05:11:17 < dongs> and yeah thats the guy 2016-05-24T05:11:35 < englishman> Fucking Google keyboard 2016-05-24T05:11:54 < dongs> http://www.webx.dk/rc/uhf-link3/330_2249b.jpg 2016-05-24T05:12:00 < dongs> lolmega8 2016-05-24T05:13:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T05:13:51 < dongs> whats the overall goal of that tarsh anyway 2016-05-24T05:13:55 < dongs> are tehy gonna try to stick it into space 2016-05-24T05:14:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T05:14:28 < dongs> The Nexø I rocket is the next step towards our goal of flying an amateur astronaut into space. Standing 5,6 m tall, it’s our first fully guided and liquid fuelled rocket. Launched from our sailing launch platform in the Baltic Sea east of Denmark, it will reach a 6-10km before landing back in the ocean by parachute. 2016-05-24T05:14:33 < dongs> what could go wrong 2016-05-24T05:14:37 < dongs> especially with manned part 2016-05-24T05:15:36 < dongs> aandrew: any cheap LTE-capable shits like SIM800? 2016-05-24T05:20:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Academic-Writing/writing-report-about-PULSE-WIDTH/ 2016-05-24T05:20:09 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-24T05:23:27 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-24T05:44:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T05:45:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T05:53:09 < aandrew> dongs: cheap? no 2016-05-24T05:53:18 < aandrew> I have experience with the telit LE910 2016-05-24T05:53:57 < dongs> i think i looked at that 2016-05-24T05:54:21 < dongs> i think it was everything but cheap 2016-05-24T05:55:01 < aandrew> correct. everything but cheap. 2016-05-24T05:58:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T05:59:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T06:02:56 < dongs> wonder if theres some cheap china shit 2016-05-24T06:03:05 < dongs> i think i alibaba'd that shit like half a year ago and found nothing good 2016-05-24T06:05:40 < aandrew> $250 to write how to generate PWM with a sawtooth and comparator? that's not too bad. I could probably knock that out in a couple hours 2016-05-24T06:05:50 < aandrew> especially if I just have to sound like an indian 2016-05-24T06:06:15 < dongs> yeah but some indian will do it for tree fiddy 2016-05-24T06:06:19 < dongs> and he will be chosen 2016-05-24T06:07:12 < upgrdman> lol http://i.imgur.com/OZTXxYg.gifv 2016-05-24T06:13:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T06:16:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T06:20:59 < dongs> innovation week 2016-05-24T06:24:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-24T06:24:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T06:29:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T06:29:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T06:32:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-24T06:32:40 < dongs> dave is failing to stay relevant 2016-05-24T06:34:43 < upgrdman> dongs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXeF6Uot8pk 2016-05-24T06:36:02 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-24T06:37:42 < dongs> haha 2016-05-24T06:45:57 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-24T06:54:41 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 2016-05-24T06:59:17 < aandrew> don't talk to me about devicetree 2016-05-24T06:59:21 < aandrew> I love it and hate it 2016-05-24T06:59:37 < dongs> autism6? 2016-05-24T07:04:16 < aandrew> you know devicetree? 2016-05-24T07:04:20 < aandrew> like know it know it? 2016-05-24T07:04:32 < dongs> I know its shit that shouldnt happen 2016-05-24T07:04:39 < dongs> much like most "mobile" shit in lunix 2016-05-24T07:04:44 < dongs> a hacked-on after thought 2016-05-24T07:04:55 < dongs> cuz face it 2016-05-24T07:05:00 < aandrew> eh, not really 2016-05-24T07:05:07 < aandrew> ohsix: ah, well that wn't help me then 2016-05-24T07:05:13 < dongs> lunix was never (and never will be) designed to be run on anything other than a full-blast 100% cpu using 386 2016-05-24T07:05:23 < dongs> power mangement? lol 2016-05-24T07:05:24 < aandrew> dongs: that's a pretty amusing thing to say 2016-05-24T07:05:28 < dongs> suspend to ram/disk/etc? lol 2016-05-24T07:05:43 < dongs> any kinda cpu throttling/clocking/etc? lol 2016-05-24T07:05:50 < dongs> all that shit ias hacked-on junk that never works right 2016-05-24T07:05:58 < dongs> microsoft had suspend to disk working in windows 98se 2016-05-24T07:06:01 < dongs> reliably 2016-05-24T07:06:07 < aandrew> ohsix: got a SoC (Zynq) and I'm trying to describe some ADC 2016-05-24T07:06:11 < dongs> it STILL barely works on lunix and still requires quitting X before suspending, LOL 2016-05-24T07:06:24 < aandrew> on two difernet platforms, one uses an I2C ADC and the other uses the XADC on the Zynq 2016-05-24T07:06:25 < dongs> and you still have a 50/50 chance your shit doesnt wake up 2016-05-24T07:06:37 < aandrew> but from the driver perspective I want to describe which channel connects to what thing 2016-05-24T07:07:16 < aandrew> i.e. platform A: battery voltage on i2c adc channel 0, core voltage on i2c channel 2, etc. and platform B: battery voltage on xadc channel 3 and core on xadc channel 4 2016-05-24T07:07:39 < dongs> ohsix aint gonna tell you how to do that bro 2016-05-24T07:07:52 < dongs> just /ignore and stackoverflow that shit or email luinux toreballs 2016-05-24T07:08:10 < aandrew> so I created a parameter called "voltages" under my node and said something like this 2016-05-24T07:08:19 < aandrew> voltages = <&mbadc 0>, <&mbadc 1>, <&mbadc 2>, <&mbadc 4>, <&mbadc 5>, <&mbadc 6>; 2016-05-24T07:08:20 < dongs> but I guarantee you teh next 2-3 hours of chats will be filled with absolutely useless info that you never wanted to know about devicetree 2016-05-24T07:08:26 < aandrew> voltage-names = "bat_mon", "pwr_in", "vcc_in", "snsr_fault3", "snsr_fault1", "snsr_fault2"; 2016-05-24T07:09:12 < aandrew> I can find this in the driver with of_parse_phandle() 2016-05-24T07:09:31 < aandrew> but I don't know how to access the "0" "1" "2" "4" "5" and "6" 2016-05-24T07:09:47 < aandrew> i.e. I have to pull out what channel is being connected 2016-05-24T07:10:30 < aandrew> I know which device is being accessed 2016-05-24T07:10:35 < aandrew> because I got the phandle 2016-05-24T07:10:52 < aandrew> but I don't know how to ask the API what the cell address specified was 2016-05-24T07:11:03 < aandrew> ohsix: oh and i know all about dongs. he and I go waaaay back 2016-05-24T07:11:25 < aandrew> experience. :-) 2016-05-24T07:13:31 < aandrew> I think I've looked at that 2016-05-24T07:14:20 < aandrew> ys, I don't need help writing the dts 2016-05-24T07:14:31 < aandrew> I need help accessing what was written in there from the driver 2016-05-24T07:15:24 < aandrew> I see of_get_property but that doesn't access the cell addrss 2016-05-24T07:16:09 < aandrew> of_get_property is when I say foo { goofy_property = <4>; }; 2016-05-24T07:16:45 < aandrew> I can get a pointer to foo with of_parse_phandle() and then of_get_property() on that pointer 2016-05-24T07:19:42 < dongs> aandrew: how does one build kernel drivers out of tree in 2016? 2016-05-24T07:19:44 < dongs> is that even possible? 2016-05-24T07:19:53 < aandrew> yep 2016-05-24T07:20:00 < aandrew> it's actually pretty easy 2016-05-24T07:20:03 < aandrew> but one gotcha 2016-05-24T07:20:14 < dongs> do you still need full kernel sores? 2016-05-24T07:20:17 < dongs> matching what youre running? 2016-05-24T07:20:26 < dongs> or just -headers/-dev whatever package 2016-05-24T07:20:31 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T07:20:31 < aandrew> if one out of tree driver needs to access functions in another out of tree driver, the drivers MUST be built at the same time or they have no way of finding otu the other's function address 2016-05-24T07:20:55 < aandrew> dongs: nah, the dev package should be enough I think 2016-05-24T07:21:05 < aandrew> I almost always have the full source so I don't know for certain 2016-05-24T07:23:12 < aandrew> hm 2016-05-24T07:23:14 < aandrew> I wonder 2016-05-24T07:23:24 < aandrew> <&mbfoo 1 2 3 4 5> 2016-05-24T07:23:38 < aandrew> does the 1 2 3 4 5 just get stuffed into of_phandle_args?? 2016-05-24T07:24:00 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T07:24:03 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-24T07:24:40 < aandrew> I don't undersatnd 2016-05-24T07:25:11 < aandrew> of_dma_request_slave_channel() uses of_find_property("dmas") 2016-05-24T07:25:41 < aandrew> how do you get from <&asdf 32> to <&asdf dmas=32> 2016-05-24T07:25:49 < dongs> sscanf, broo 2016-05-24T07:25:59 < aandrew> still 2016-05-24T07:26:04 < aandrew> I mean xadc does the same 2016-05-24T07:26:04 < dongs> with buffer overflowz 2016-05-24T07:26:32 < aandrew> but how do you map some anonymous number in the phandle ref <&asdf 32> to the named property "dmas" 2016-05-24T07:27:18 < aandrew> of_dma_match channel() seems to decompose to of_parse_phandle_with_args() 2016-05-24T07:27:57 < aandrew> so what do I have to do in my mbadc node to map that 2016-05-24T07:28:12 < aandrew> I modified it to give it a cell address 2016-05-24T07:28:17 < aandrew> which it didn't have before 2016-05-24T07:29:11 < aandrew> "callchain thing" ? 2016-05-24T07:29:59 < aandrew> yes 2016-05-24T07:30:10 < aandrew> ok I see that it all devolves that way 2016-05-24T07:30:11 < aandrew> but now 2016-05-24T07:30:13 < aandrew> in the dma node 2016-05-24T07:30:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-24T07:30:38 < aandrew> how do you map <xdma 5> so that 5 is matched up to "tx" or "rx" 2016-05-24T07:30:52 < aandrew> I mean how do you know that "5" is "tx" and not "rx" 2016-05-24T07:31:11 < aandrew> with xadc they seem to do it with #io-channel-cells = <1> 2016-05-24T07:31:27 < aandrew> but "io-channel-cells" is arbitrary 2016-05-24T07:31:29 < aandrew> right 2016-05-24T07:31:30 < aandrew> so 2016-05-24T07:31:45 < aandrew> do you say "<&xdma 5 6>" which means 5 is rx and 6 is tx? 2016-05-24T07:33:39 < aandrew> ok 2016-05-24T07:33:42 < aandrew> hm 2016-05-24T07:33:47 < aandrew> I feel like I'm running in circles 2016-05-24T07:34:01 < aandrew> how are they getting the "8" in the driver then 2016-05-24T07:34:25 < aandrew> I know how to of_parse_phandle and get at the first and second nodes 2016-05-24T07:34:56 < aandrew> but now that I'm pointing at the first one ("<&dma_apbx 8>"), how do I access it to see what that # is (8 here) 2016-05-24T07:36:05 < aandrew> hm 2016-05-24T07:38:27 < aandrew> hm 2016-05-24T07:45:22 < aandrew> it looks like 2016-05-24T07:45:56 < aandrew> of_parse_phandle_with_fixed_args() will work and I don't have to know the cell NAME because the size of the cell is known at compile time 2016-05-24T07:46:54 < aandrew> I can just iterate over the list with something liek of_parse_phandle_with_fixed_args(phandle_parent, "voltages", 1, i, &args); and hten args will have "0" or "4" or whatever 2016-05-24T07:49:39 < aandrew> yeah I am talking in #devicetree righ tnow 2016-05-24T07:49:51 < aandrew> it was dead bfore but there's a guy there making some noise (besides me) 2016-05-24T07:54:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T07:58:05 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.127.83] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T07:59:26 < [VEGETA]> it over nine thousaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan 2016-05-24T07:59:29 < [VEGETA]> it over nine thousaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand 2016-05-24T08:00:46 < jpa-> no it's not 2016-05-24T08:01:08 < [VEGETA]> it is good to see some loyal dbz fans among engineers 2016-05-24T08:02:09 < dongs> didnt know there was internet in jordan 2016-05-24T08:07:05 < [VEGETA]> what?! 2016-05-24T08:07:22 < [VEGETA]> we have everything? do you think we are retarded or something? 2016-05-24T08:09:36 < dongs> actually, yues 2016-05-24T08:09:43 < dongs> i'm super surprised your on irc. 2016-05-24T08:09:49 < dongs> cuz y ou should be making like 2016-05-24T08:09:51 < dongs> clay huts or somethung 2016-05-24T08:09:58 < dongs> or maybe necklacing some niggers 2016-05-24T08:10:31 < [VEGETA]> why you think like this? isn't it racism 2016-05-24T08:12:51 < [VEGETA]> well, he needs to be more tolerant and open minded. stop worshipping the mainstream media 2016-05-24T08:13:47 < dongs> 2016-05-23 20:03 The item is on transport to the country of destination 2016-05-24T08:13:48 < dongs> 2016-05-21 21:22 The item is at the PostNL sorting center 2016-05-24T08:13:49 < dongs> nice 2016-05-24T08:13:58 < dongs> so they did actually hsip it to netherlands from china 2016-05-24T08:14:13 < dongs> took from 17th to 21st to do that. 2016-05-24T08:16:04 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-24T08:16:40 -!- DKordic [~user@93-87-231-236.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-24T08:16:48 -!- DKordic` [~user@93-87-231-236.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T08:17:50 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T08:24:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9aebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T08:49:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9aebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-24T09:13:14 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T09:17:14 -!- indy_ is now known as indy 2016-05-24T09:17:37 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-24T09:27:12 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T09:29:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-24T09:35:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T09:36:29 < upgrdman> wtf. the DMP in the MPU6050 isnt publicly documented. 2016-05-24T09:37:57 < jpa-> dmp? 2016-05-24T09:39:50 < upgrdman> their sensor fusion stuff on chip 2016-05-24T09:39:58 < upgrdman> digital motion processor 2016-05-24T09:40:34 < upgrdman> looks like an arduino lib is my best bet. looks decent, but will be a pain to port 2016-05-24T09:42:10 < dongs> dont e ven bother with dmp 2016-05-24T09:42:12 < dongs> just do your own shit 2016-05-24T09:42:16 < upgrdman> y 2016-05-24T09:42:25 < dongs> dmp = untuneable, and as you said undocumented 2016-05-24T09:42:37 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-24T09:42:53 < dongs> just copypaste magdwick or wahtever ahrs shit 2016-05-24T09:42:56 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.127.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-24T09:42:59 < dongs> and yo'll have angle outputs from raw gyro/acc 2016-05-24T09:44:42 < upgrdman> is this what youre talking about http://wiki.ros.org/imu_filter_madgwick 2016-05-24T09:44:54 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-24T09:48:09 < upgrdman> well right now im trying to get it's i2c master capability working so it can read my magnetometer for me and i'll hopefully just have to DMA to the mpu6050 to read everything 2016-05-24T09:48:24 < upgrdman> but right now i can only get it working if i do the i2c passthrough thing 2016-05-24T09:55:28 < dongs> er 2016-05-24T09:55:33 < dongs> upgrdman: just enable i2c bypass 2016-05-24T09:55:43 < dongs> is it connected via aux i2c shit? 2016-05-24T09:56:09 < dongs> oh, you said ht at 2016-05-24T09:56:13 < dongs> master reads are ok 2016-05-24T09:56:16 < upgrdman> ya im doing that now. bypass words 2016-05-24T09:56:18 < dongs> not too complicated but... 2016-05-24T09:56:24 < dongs> i forgot where i did that in code 2016-05-24T09:56:43 < upgrdman> i just figure if i can dma to just the mpu6050, it'll be a little easier 2016-05-24T09:58:37 < dongs> oh right i did that on stm8 and all that code is gone thx seagate 2016-05-24T09:59:54 < dongs> upgrdman: i guess easist is 2016-05-24T09:59:56 < dongs> enable i2c bypass 2016-05-24T09:59:58 < dongs> configure mag 2016-05-24T10:00:02 < dongs> then setup i2c_slv0 shit 2016-05-24T10:00:06 < dongs> subaddress + length 2016-05-24T10:00:11 < dongs> and done 2016-05-24T10:00:20 < dongs> don't bother trying to figure out how to write through the master to configure it 2016-05-24T10:00:27 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-24T10:00:27 < dongs> (i did that too, but i cba to try to remember how and code is gone) 2016-05-24T10:00:43 < dongs> make sure to turn off bypass wehn you're doing slv0 shit tho 2016-05-24T10:00:46 < upgrdman> thats exactly what im trying (only read with the mpu6050) and it wont work :( 2016-05-24T10:00:53 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-24T10:00:59 < dongs> u fail it 2016-05-24T10:04:12 < upgrdman> dongs, anything jump out as fucked up: http://pastebin.com/37rrxgx5 2016-05-24T10:04:43 < dongs> upgrdman: make sure the address it needs is properly shifted 2016-05-24T10:04:47 < dongs> ie if it wants 7bit address << 1 2016-05-24T10:04:50 < dongs> or just 7bit address 2016-05-24T10:04:56 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-24T10:05:08 < dongs> 5883 is 1e 2016-05-24T10:05:10 < dongs> i think 2016-05-24T10:05:26 < dongs> try 1e<<1 if not already that 2016-05-24T10:05:35 < dongs> for line 17 2016-05-24T10:05:38 < upgrdman> slave address is the 7 LSBs so i think i did that right 2016-05-24T10:05:41 < dongs> wait wat 2016-05-24T10:05:45 < dongs> why are you setting up two i2c slaves 2016-05-24T10:06:01 < dongs> hmc read is just 6 bytes from one address 2016-05-24T10:06:05 < dongs> 3 even wtf? 2016-05-24T10:06:07 < dongs> what are you doing 2016-05-24T10:06:10 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-24T10:06:10 < dongs> just setup slv0, with 6 byte read 2016-05-24T10:06:16 < upgrdman> ya wtf is wrong with me 2016-05-24T10:06:19 < dongs> from DATA_X or whatever 1st regsiter 2016-05-24T10:06:22 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-24T10:07:21 < upgrdman> hmm ok fixed that to 1 slave for 6 bytes. but still get no data 2016-05-24T10:07:58 < dongs> reg is set to 1st mag out register? 2016-05-24T10:08:11 < dongs> is mag setup so that reading from it works correctly in bypass pmode? 2016-05-24T10:08:24 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T10:08:40 < upgrdman> yes 2016-05-24T10:08:44 < upgrdman> bypass works perfect 2016-05-24T10:09:30 < dongs> naw 2016-05-24T10:09:33 < dongs> you wish 2016-05-24T10:10:56 < dongs> um 2016-05-24T10:10:57 < dongs> upgrdman: 2016-05-24T10:11:04 < dongs> I2C_MST_CTRL 2016-05-24T10:11:07 < dongs> did you bother actually enabling the master? 2016-05-24T10:11:13 < dongs> 0x24 2016-05-24T10:11:18 < dongs> also, fucking #define registers 2016-05-24T10:11:20 < dongs> basd on datasheet 2016-05-24T10:11:25 < dongs> so I dont have to crosslerefefence trash 2016-05-24T10:12:20 < upgrdman> write_register(MPU6050_ADDRESS, 0x6A, 0x02); // enable i2c master mode 2016-05-24T10:12:26 < dongs> not that one 2016-05-24T10:12:28 < dongs> 0x24 2016-05-24T10:12:30 < dongs> i have no idea waht 6a is 2016-05-24T10:12:42 < upgrdman> for 0x24, what bit? 2016-05-24T10:12:46 < upgrdman> none look appropriate 2016-05-24T10:12:47 < dongs> read datasheet?? 2016-05-24T10:12:51 < upgrdman> i am 2016-05-24T10:12:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-24T10:13:03 < upgrdman> 24 36 2016-05-24T10:13:03 < upgrdman> MULT 2016-05-24T10:13:03 < upgrdman> _MST_EN 2016-05-24T10:13:03 < upgrdman> WAIT 2016-05-24T10:13:03 < upgrdman> _FOR_ES 2016-05-24T10:13:04 < dongs> hgow about teh clock one for starters? 2016-05-24T10:13:04 < upgrdman> SLV_3 2016-05-24T10:13:06 < upgrdman> _FIFO_EN 2016-05-24T10:13:08 < upgrdman> I2C_MST 2016-05-24T10:13:09 < dongs> so you can see if it even tries to read it 2016-05-24T10:13:12 < upgrdman> _P_NSR 2016-05-24T10:13:14 < upgrdman> I2C_MST_CLK[3:0] 2016-05-24T10:13:16 < upgrdman> oops 2016-05-24T10:14:57 < dongs> enable bit 7 i geuss 2016-05-24T10:14:58 < dongs> top one 2016-05-24T10:15:16 < dongs> ah multimaster 2016-05-24T10:15:17 < dongs> kinda uselees 2016-05-24T10:15:50 < upgrdman> write_register(MPU6050_ADDRESS, 0x24, 13); // slave i2c clock = 400kHz 2016-05-24T10:15:52 < upgrdman> didnt help 2016-05-24T10:15:56 < upgrdman> ok i'll try multimaster 2016-05-24T10:16:56 < upgrdman> multimaster didnt help either :( 2016-05-24T10:19:57 < dongs> upgrdman: https://sourceforge.net/p/microhal/code-0/51/tree/trunk/devices/src/mpu9150/mpu9150.cpp#l159 working lunix code 2016-05-24T10:21:08 < dongs> be careful clicking that url 2016-05-24T10:21:12 < dongs> theyt might infect you with some ads 2016-05-24T10:23:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T10:25:19 < dongs> http://www.banggood.com/collection-1892.html?utmid=735 2016-05-24T10:32:24 -!- Katz [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-05-24T10:39:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T11:03:39 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-05-24T11:03:50 < dongs> dongs 2016-05-24T11:04:22 < dongs> bored as shit. 2016-05-24T11:04:50 < dongs> innovation stalled a bit 2016-05-24T11:04:54 < dongs> too fucking hot 2016-05-24T11:04:56 < dongs> like 28C 2016-05-24T11:07:14 < zyp> heh 2016-05-24T11:09:29 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T11:15:24 -!- Abhishek__ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-swlcxmwihoutnrvf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T11:18:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T11:27:39 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T11:44:05 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T11:57:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak] 2016-05-24T11:59:16 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.127.83] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T12:33:42 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpwamnrfizgvklav] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-24T12:59:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T12:59:36 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-24T13:00:51 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T13:02:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T13:02:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-24T13:03:01 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-24T13:08:08 < ReadError> does there not exist a good through hole micro usb? 2016-05-24T13:08:21 < ReadError> not just gimpy little 1mm tabs 2016-05-24T13:10:17 < karlp> have a feeling that was one fo the very first zypsnips links. 2016-05-24T13:10:28 < karlp> parts.usb.text 2016-05-24T13:11:08 < karlp> well, feb, 2015 at least. 2016-05-24T13:11:29 < karlp> so yeah, not actually first at all, that was mar 2013 apparently 2016-05-24T13:12:28 < ReadError> haha thats exactly what i use now ;p 2016-05-24T13:12:35 < ReadError> it has the gimpy little tabs 2016-05-24T13:13:32 < karlp> so, what sort of "through hole" are you expecing then? 2016-05-24T13:13:33 < jpa-> have you broken those without breaking anything else? 2016-05-24T13:14:10 < ReadError> ehh not, but those micro usb TH ones, they look beefy 2016-05-24T13:14:35 < ReadError> I just noticed the other day while looking theres not a really yoked micro usb one 2016-05-24T13:15:03 < jpa-> does not parse 2016-05-24T13:15:14 < jpa-> the non-existent micro usb TH ones look beefy? 2016-05-24T13:15:32 < ReadError> errr mini* 2016-05-24T13:15:36 < jpa-> ah :) 2016-05-24T13:15:36 < ReadError> morning head 2016-05-24T13:15:51 < ReadError> http://s1.electrodragon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Mini-USB-Female-90-Degree-5Pins-Plated-through-holes-PTH.jpg 2016-05-24T13:16:00 < ReadError> like this, you see it and are like, yea, not going anywhere 2016-05-24T13:16:51 < ReadError> (its not that I need one necessarily, its just an observation I made the other day) 2016-05-24T13:18:42 < ReadError> http://www.centralcm.com/pdf/CUSB-C-SA3113-1F24RT-L-N-GD50.pdf 2016-05-24T13:18:50 < ReadError> looks like C they are going back to the strong stuff 2016-05-24T13:20:23 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.127.83] has quit [Quit: Until we meet again...!] 2016-05-24T13:22:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-246.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T13:23:48 < PeterM> i kinda wish mini usb because the standard rather than micro usb :( 2016-05-24T13:24:33 < karlp> move on to USB-C get on with life? 2016-05-24T13:25:04 < jpa-> how are usb-c peripherals, can one just hook usb-c connector up to stm32 and have it work? 2016-05-24T13:25:09 < karlp> mini-usb ws standard enough, but wearing out phones because of exceeded connection attempts was a pretty major fucking failure of mini-usb 2016-05-24T13:26:15 < daey> that miniusb even became a powersupply connector is pure insanity... 2016-05-24T13:29:03 -!- Abhishek__ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-swlcxmwihoutnrvf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-24T13:29:30 < ReadError> seems like mini would have more insertion cycles than micro.. 2016-05-24T13:30:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-246.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-24T13:30:31 < karlp> ReadError: the bit that wears out on a mini connector is on the connector, not the cable though. 2016-05-24T13:30:32 < BrainDamage> it's not just insertion cycles, it's which part wears the most 2016-05-24T13:30:38 < karlp> unlike micro and full size 2016-05-24T13:31:05 < karlp> micr and full size: exceed insertions, buy a new cable. 2016-05-24T13:31:17 < karlp> mini: exceed insertions, hope you can replace that usb connector on your device bro 2016-05-24T13:39:31 < PeterM> i like type c, but the pitch is a bit annoying 2016-05-24T13:40:36 < zyp> jpa-, I think you need a controller chip for the OOB negotiation stuff 2016-05-24T13:40:47 < zyp> ST sent some spam about those a few months ago 2016-05-24T13:41:18 < jpa-> on the other hand the normal full/high-speed wires seem to be similar like they've always been.. is OOB needed for that also? 2016-05-24T13:41:47 < zyp> well, there's the new host/device negotiation stuff that's done OOB 2016-05-24T13:41:51 < zyp> replaces the old ID pin 2016-05-24T13:42:23 < jpa-> ah, but who does otg 2016-05-24T13:42:26 < zyp> oh, and plug orientation shit 2016-05-24T13:42:33 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/interfaces-and-transceivers/usb/usb-type-c-and-power-delivery/stusb1600.html 2016-05-24T13:42:50 < jpa-> i think for the fs/hs wires the orientation is handled in the connector hardware 2016-05-24T13:43:21 < jpa-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Type-C#Connector_pinouts looking at this it seems like it *might* work 2016-05-24T13:43:35 < jpa-> if you don't need power delivery or other fancy new stuff 2016-05-24T13:44:27 < zyp> ah, you can just wire Dp1/Dn1 and Dp2/Dn2 in parallel in the socket, I guess 2016-05-24T13:44:33 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-24T13:44:47 < zyp> since plug only hooks up to one side 2016-05-24T13:45:36 < zyp> question is how other end detects that it's connected to a device and should start supplying vbus 2016-05-24T13:46:25 < jpa-> yeah 2016-05-24T13:47:45 < dongs> < ReadError> http://www.centralcm.com/pdf/CUSB-C-SA3113-1F24RT-L-N-GD50.pdf 2016-05-24T13:47:51 < zyp> probably irrelevant if you use an A to C-cable, but very relevant for C to C cables 2016-05-24T13:47:51 < dongs> lklol that fucking half-dip-half-smt garbagfe 2016-05-24T13:48:04 < dongs> at least better than HDMI-D where its two rows of SMT buried inside 2016-05-24T13:48:14 < dongs> wanna see if back row got soldered? tough shit 2016-05-24T13:48:15 < ReadError> yea thought that was pretty odd 2016-05-24T13:48:28 < ReadError> but im just saying that style with the big tabs 2016-05-24T13:48:40 < jpa-> zyp: hmm, i wonder if C to B cables have chip.. because if not, then it would have to work 2016-05-24T13:48:45 < dongs> it looks like my displayport connectors 2016-05-24T13:48:51 < dongs> same style, same half dip/smt 2016-05-24T13:49:07 < dongs> infact.. 2016-05-24T13:49:27 < zyp> jpa-, maybe it's resistor coded 2016-05-24T13:49:29 < dongs> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4900/aee6b/product_images/uploaded_images/h610522e.jpg 2016-05-24T13:49:36 < zyp> fuck it, I'll just read the spec 2016-05-24T13:49:42 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T13:50:06 < dongs> ya pretty similar setup with dp/usb-c 2016-05-24T13:51:20 < jpa-> zyp: :) 2016-05-24T14:00:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-24T14:04:22 < zyp> "USB Type-C receptacle to USB legacy adapters are explicitly not defined or allowed." 2016-05-24T14:04:33 < zyp> so all C to legacy stuff have a C plug end only 2016-05-24T14:05:01 < zyp> getting started on the handshake protocol now 2016-05-24T14:08:19 < dongs> heh 2016-05-24T14:08:45 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-24T14:09:24 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T14:22:00 < jpa-> i wonder why they'd do that 2016-05-24T14:22:32 < jpa-> to avoid someone plugging two A ports together with C adapters? :) 2016-05-24T14:23:29 < zyp> yeah, and other shit like that 2016-05-24T14:27:33 < zyp> spec confirms that Dn1/Dp1 and Dn2/Dp2 can be connected together at the socket 2016-05-24T14:31:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.113] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T14:33:44 < dongs> zyp, they would have to be? 2016-05-24T14:33:47 < dongs> cuz its same signal 2016-05-24T14:33:52 < dongs> just rotated 2016-05-24T14:34:25 < zyp> yeah, but you could mux them instead of hardwiring them in parallel 2016-05-24T14:34:37 < zyp> although I don't see why you would do that 2016-05-24T14:35:08 < jpa-> connect one to USB OTG FS and other to USB FS, and then have different kind of stuff available on those! 2016-05-24T14:35:18 < jpa-> like USB DFU on one and USB MSC on another 2016-05-24T14:35:31 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-186-201.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-24T14:35:33 < dongs> jpa-: haha 2016-05-24T14:35:35 < zyp> haha 2016-05-24T14:35:39 < dongs> jpa-: , i think they're fused in the cable tho 2016-05-24T14:35:44 < zyp> no 2016-05-24T14:35:44 < dongs> not separate wires 2016-05-24T14:35:46 < dongs> oh? 2016-05-24T14:35:50 < zyp> one side is left unconnected in plug 2016-05-24T14:35:51 < jpa-> dongs: wikipedia says that they aren't, just one pair is connected in cable 2016-05-24T14:36:01 < zyp> spec confirms that 2016-05-24T14:36:33 < dongs> so.. 2016-05-24T14:36:36 < dongs> waht happens when cable is flipped? 2016-05-24T14:36:38 < jpa-> maybe we'll see usb-c devices that only work with the plug one way around :) 2016-05-24T14:36:43 < dongs> dp/dn1/2 is connected at socket? 2016-05-24T14:36:51 < jpa-> dongs: it relies on them being connected together on pcb 2016-05-24T14:36:51 < zyp> yes 2016-05-24T14:36:57 < dongs> hax 2016-05-24T14:37:18 < jpa-> then when lazy chinese cloner has trouble routing it, only one pair will be connected 2016-05-24T14:38:14 < zyp> anyway, I'm reading up on the CC stuff now, looks like adapter cables are using resistor values to state what kind it is, haven't gotten to how it works for C-C-cables yet 2016-05-24T14:41:05 < dongs> lolz.. 2016-05-24T14:41:06 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-154-174.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T14:41:11 < dongs> capacitative fingerprint guy is back on freelancer 2016-05-24T14:41:17 < dongs> and back to chatting me that he has an amazing solution 2016-05-24T14:41:19 < dongs> (that still wont work) 2016-05-24T14:42:21 < qyx> wat 2016-05-24T14:42:36 < dongs> qyx, he wants to fingerprint by using phone touchscreen 2016-05-24T14:42:37 < qyx> is that the project to read capacitive values from the mobile display? 2016-05-24T14:42:38 < ReadError> if he has a solution why the fuck isnt he doing it? 2016-05-24T14:42:40 < dongs> yes 2016-05-24T14:42:45 < qyx> yep, I've read that 2016-05-24T14:42:48 < dongs> you mean those last 200 projects he posted 2016-05-24T14:42:49 < dongs> aboute that shit 2016-05-24T14:42:53 < ReadError> so he can not pay you when you cant make it work? 2016-05-24T14:43:07 < dongs> qyx, he wants to use analog debug mode on synaptics to get raw data thing and use it for fingerprint 2016-05-24T14:43:08 < qyx> I wonder whats his solution 2016-05-24T14:43:10 < dongs> i told him raw data is liek 20x24 2016-05-24T14:43:16 < qyx> uhm 2016-05-24T14:43:16 < PeterM> i jsut thought of something i wanna make but i think its way too fucking mak:r to do 2016-05-24T14:43:17 < dongs> he says "just move finger slowly and oversample" 2016-05-24T14:43:26 < dongs> im like no. 2016-05-24T14:43:45 < ReadError> PeterM wats that 2016-05-24T14:44:10 < PeterM> Big plexiglass sheet, etch flying toasters in it, put leds behind toasters, paint back black, randomly ffade teh leds in and out, attach to ceiling 2016-05-24T14:44:23 < dongs> wat 2016-05-24T14:44:28 < ReadError> lol flying toasters 2016-05-24T14:44:30 < ReadError> why them 2016-05-24T14:44:35 < PeterM> irl afterdark screensaver 2016-05-24T14:44:36 < dongs> yea that would definitely get you on front page of hackaday.io 2016-05-24T14:45:19 < ReadError> I miss people using LEDs as buttons/feedback 2016-05-24T14:45:47 < ReadError> i just remember a period it was kinda kicking off 2016-05-24T14:45:53 < ReadError> now you never see it done 2016-05-24T14:46:07 < zyp> okay, looks like all a simple usb-c device needs to do is terminate CC1 and CC2 with a 5.1k resistor each 2016-05-24T14:46:17 < PeterM> LEDs as buttons? 2016-05-24T14:46:30 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-24T14:47:10 < PeterM> what, put cap touch sensor attached to led or somethin? 2016-05-24T14:47:57 < ReadError> its something about how theres a change when you cover the led 2016-05-24T14:48:06 < ReadError> trying to find, its been like 10 years 2016-05-24T14:48:21 < zyp> if device cares about orientation, it could monitor level of CC1 and CC2, actual CC line would be pulled up by host 2016-05-24T14:48:22 < PeterM> oh yeah 2016-05-24T14:48:37 < PeterM> you can shine light into led it generates a votlage 2016-05-24T14:49:12 < zyp> if host cares about orientation, it'll see 5.1k on actual CC line and <1.2k on the other one, from a pulldown in plug 2016-05-24T14:49:31 < PeterM> thats how mosfet SSRs work 2016-05-24T14:50:27 < ReadError> there was a project, guy had a huge matrix of them 2016-05-24T14:50:35 < ReadError> and it was on a table or something... 2016-05-24T14:50:43 < zyp> meanwhile, host terminates CC1 and CC2 with a pullup, which defines power level (default usb, 1.5A or 3A) 2016-05-24T14:51:04 < zyp> so the basic handshake is all just resistors and sensing 2016-05-24T14:51:10 < zyp> no fancy stuff 2016-05-24T14:51:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T14:56:17 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbuNroHBtOM 2016-05-24T14:56:19 < ReadError> that PeterM 2016-05-24T14:58:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-24T14:59:33 < qyx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzWEgOt3xsM 2016-05-24T14:59:34 < qyx> better 2016-05-24T14:59:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T15:02:21 -!- Lt__Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@106-69-128-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T15:02:40 < PeterM> oh, not as neat/useful as you made me think 2016-05-24T15:13:02 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-24T15:13:30 -!- Lt__Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@106-69-128-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: F12! 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YOU_MUST_DEFINE_PB_FIELD_16BIT_FOR_MESSAGES no worky 2016-05-24T16:43:24 < jpa-> how not work? 2016-05-24T16:43:49 < qyx> which is quite interesting, because there are not tags greater than 255 or messages longer than about 40 bytes 2016-05-24T16:44:17 < jpa-> can you pastebin the generated #ifdef? 2016-05-24T16:44:23 < qyx> http://openpaste.org/4bDC372B 2016-05-24T16:44:25 < qyx> this is the source 2016-05-24T16:45:46 < dongs> what teh fuck 2016-05-24T16:45:50 < dongs> i see a mile long lunix error message 2016-05-24T16:46:00 < dongs> Python Executable:/home/openpaste/virtualenv/bin/python 2016-05-24T16:46:05 < qyx> wtf 2016-05-24T16:46:09 < qyx> try refresh 2016-05-24T16:46:12 < dongs> fucking lol 2016-05-24T16:46:12 < qyx> http://openpaste.org/3e27e5Ba 2016-05-24T16:46:17 < qyx> and this is the generated static assert 2016-05-24T16:46:44 < jpa-> nice assert 2016-05-24T16:47:06 < qyx> actually I don't know why it is there 2016-05-24T16:47:16 < qyx> like it grabbed all *.proto files and generated assert from them 2016-05-24T16:47:32 < jpa-> especially so many times for the same message & same field 2016-05-24T16:48:25 < qyx> version is be903082acfc24ee523314e323e7c6c13e53c9f3 lib/other/nanopb (nanopb-0.3.5-12-gbe90308) 2016-05-24T16:49:56 < jpa-> is it secret codes or could you make a bug report on github and attach the .protos? 2016-05-24T16:50:44 < qyx> I'll make a report tomorrow 2016-05-24T16:51:25 < jpa-> so is there actually a "Ake3dhMessage"? 2016-05-24T16:51:36 < jpa-> because can't see that in the first paste 2016-05-24T16:52:03 < qyx> there are 3 different *.proto files 2016-05-24T16:52:10 < qyx> that message is in one of them 2016-05-24T16:52:35 < jpa-> different file than where the assert is? 2016-05-24T16:52:36 < qyx> I compile them all at once using protoc --plugin=lib/other/nanopb/generator/protoc-gen-nanopb --proto_path=umesh/proto --nanopb_out=umesh/proto --proto_path=lib/other/nanopb/generator/proto umesh/proto/*.proto 2016-05-24T16:52:44 < qyx> yes 2016-05-24T16:52:46 < jpa-> should work 2016-05-24T16:53:46 < qyx> it reports the assert in the file_transfer.pb.c, but there should be no Ake3dh* 2016-05-24T16:54:04 < qyx> I'll attach all of them 2016-05-24T16:54:40 < Ecco> Is there a way to define classes based on a parameter 2016-05-24T16:54:42 < Ecco> for example a Tree class where the number of children is fixed and given as a parameter 2016-05-24T16:55:30 < jpa-> Ecco: template? 2016-05-24T16:55:43 < jpa-> qyx: hmm might be a bug in the simultaneous compilation stuff 2016-05-24T16:56:55 < Ecco> Tree<3> for example 2016-05-24T16:56:57 < Ecco> Kinda like templates, but instead of using a type using a value 2016-05-24T16:57:36 < jpa-> Ecco: so it would be static in type, but not static in the type? :) 2016-05-24T17:00:14 < jpa-> qyx: ok, i can reproduce (and not just children!) 2016-05-24T17:05:09 < jpa-> qyx: reported it for you :) https://github.com/nanopb/nanopb/issues/203 2016-05-24T17:07:40 < qyx> jpa-: thanks \o/ 2016-05-24T17:08:43 < mitrax> Ecco: sure, a template can take an integer as argument not necessarily a type, e.g template<int NodeCount> class Tree 2016-05-24T17:09:23 < mitrax> Ecco: then you can specialize your template for a given number of nodes, e.g template<> class Tree<3> { ... } 2016-05-24T17:11:29 < mitrax> Ecco: if you need to specialize, that is if you want to optimize things when there's only N node or something, otherwise just provide one implementation 2016-05-24T17:14:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T17:19:43 < zyp> mitrax, you don't even have to have a default implementation 2016-05-24T17:21:36 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.127.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T17:21:45 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T17:22:37 < zyp> in my lib I'm declaring template<Interrupt::IRQ> void interrupt(); and then specializing all definitions 2016-05-24T17:23:22 < zyp> gives me compile time checking that the interrupt name you're trying to override actually exists 2016-05-24T17:23:53 < zyp> Interrupt::IRQ is an enum, which means you can't pass in anything that's not part of the enum 2016-05-24T17:25:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.225] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T17:31:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T17:36:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-24T17:36:45 < Laurenceb_> sounds useful 2016-05-24T17:37:15 < Laurenceb_> I've had too many projects where I've had to disassemble to work out if the interrupt handlers are actually set up 2016-05-24T17:37:58 < mitrax> zyp: sure, i was just saying if he doesn't need any specialization based on the number of nodes he can just provide one single implementation in the first template definition 2016-05-24T17:40:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 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englishman> whats trolling today trollenceb 2016-05-24T18:56:33 < Laurenceb_> my horsey logger i2c seems temperature sensitive :-S 2016-05-24T18:56:57 < Laurenceb_> 1 lockup in 3 hours at room temp, but once a minute or so at 10C 2016-05-24T18:57:13 < englishman> haha. 2016-05-24T18:57:23 < Laurenceb_> luckily it always recovers, but I need to fix this hatebus shit properly at some point 2016-05-24T18:57:28 < englishman> not using x5r caps? 2016-05-24T18:57:37 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sooda, englishman, massi_ 2016-05-24T18:57:53 < Laurenceb_> it looks like interference on the bus causing stm i2c hardware to lockup 2016-05-24T18:58:07 < Laurenceb_> but I havent managed to capture it on salaea yet 2016-05-24T18:58:42 < Laurenceb_> at this rate I'm going to have to make an i2c to sanebus convertor 2016-05-24T18:58:48 < Laurenceb_> i2c to uart bridge or something 2016-05-24T18:59:17 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jdeygtbnzaejjial] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T19:01:56 < Rob235> vpn chosen and paid for, now I gotta figure out how to set it up 2016-05-24T19:02:42 < Laurenceb_> Rob235 confirmed as destined for partyvan 2016-05-24T19:03:18 < Rob235> I'm not sure what that means but it sounds like fun 2016-05-24T19:04:00 < dongs> upgrdman: good job 2016-05-24T19:04:07 < upgrdman> i know, i know... 2016-05-24T19:04:24 < dongs> < Laurenceb_> but I havent managed to capture it on salaea yet 2016-05-24T19:04:29 < dongs> cant the clowns you work with 2016-05-24T19:04:32 < dongs> afford proper tools? 2016-05-24T19:04:33 < dongs> holy fuck 2016-05-24T19:04:36 < upgrdman> side note, this cheap 24bit barometer has like 200 LSBs of noise. why do they even bother with a 24bit adc in it 2016-05-24T19:04:56 < dongs> upgrdman: it also moves +- like 50cm just sitting on desk 2016-05-24T19:05:09 < Rob235> which baro 2016-05-24T19:05:14 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-24T19:05:18 < upgrdman> ya and mine seems to take a while to settle after you blow on it 2016-05-24T19:05:27 < dongs> well thats easy 2016-05-24T19:05:29 < upgrdman> Rob235, MS5611 2016-05-24T19:05:30 < dongs> hot air out of your moht 2016-05-24T19:05:48 < dongs> upgrdman: try a neat trick, graph the output and slam the door shut in your room 2016-05-24T19:05:50 < upgrdman> dongs, ? they have high tempco ? 2016-05-24T19:05:54 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-24T19:06:02 < dongs> upgrdman: they're temperature compensated, i dunno if your code does it 2016-05-24T19:06:15 < dongs> you need to read temp and pressure and do lots of funky math on both 2016-05-24T19:06:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: massi_, sooda 2016-05-24T19:06:19 < upgrdman> oh ya, i was too lazy to go through that and dick with all those calib constants 2016-05-24T19:06:21 < upgrdman> i should 2016-05-24T19:06:35 < dongs> yea raw value is probably garbage 2016-05-24T19:07:19 < Rob235> sounds similar to the bmp280 2016-05-24T19:07:30 < Rob235> does the 280 have less noise? 2016-05-24T19:07:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.99.171] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T19:08:01 < dongs> as no, it has a bit more 2016-05-24T19:08:10 < dongs> around +-80 cm on desk 2016-05-24T19:08:10 < Rob235> that sucks 2016-05-24T19:08:18 < Rob235> maybe I should get a new baro 2016-05-24T19:08:34 < dongs> no you shouldnt 2016-05-24T19:08:47 < Rob235> actually that shouldn't matter much, if it's that close to the ground I'll be using ultrasonic anyway 2016-05-24T19:08:48 < dongs> http://www.jfwindustries.com/products/50DR_141_Dual_Concentric_Rotary_Attenuator_from_JFW_Industries-1626-0.html 2016-05-24T19:08:52 < dongs> these guys keep emailing me 2016-05-24T19:09:00 < dongs> when you see "quote" butotn and no price 2016-05-24T19:09:03 < dongs> you know they're liek $5k each 2016-05-24T19:09:49 < Rob235> how noisey is gps altitude? 2016-05-24T19:09:53 < dongs> awful 2016-05-24T19:09:55 < Rob235> probably horrible right? 2016-05-24T19:09:56 < dongs> 10s of meters 2016-05-24T19:10:00 < dongs> ask trollenceb 2016-05-24T19:10:02 < dongs> he knows more 2016-05-24T19:10:52 < dongs> fingerprint guy moved on 2016-05-24T19:11:02 < dongs> now he wanna know if a picture was taken in photoshop or not 2016-05-24T19:11:07 < dongs> this guy is a real pro 2016-05-24T19:11:24 < dongs> not sure why im even wasting time, at least im routing a board while watching him spew ohsix-level garbage 2016-05-24T19:11:46 < upgrdman> fp guy? 2016-05-24T19:11:49 < englishman> upgrdman: pressure->altitude is pretty useless without temperature 2016-05-24T19:12:01 < dongs> upgrdman: feelancer guy 2016-05-24T19:12:04 < upgrdman> ok TIL 2016-05-24T19:12:09 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-24T19:12:20 < dongs> remember like 2-3 months ago he wanted to fingerprint using phone touchscreen 2016-05-24T19:12:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-24T19:12:25 < englishman> upgrdman: your lesson of the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihee35QrWtk 2016-05-24T19:12:31 < dongs> i trolled him for a while and told him it was impossible 2016-05-24T19:12:44 < dongs> he deleted his feelancer account and stopped spamming those projects for a while 2016-05-24T19:12:47 < dongs> then he came back this wek 2016-05-24T19:12:50 < dongs> with same fucking project 2016-05-24T19:13:05 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T19:13:17 < dongs> now his super brilliant idea is oversampling by moving finger over screen super slowly 2016-05-24T19:13:24 < dongs> told him that wasnt gonna work either 2016-05-24T19:13:28 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-24T19:14:35 < dongs> ohsix could keep him busy for days probably 2016-05-24T19:14:42 < dongs> too bad he refuses to freelance 2016-05-24T19:25:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T19:28:41 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-05-24T19:28:46 < Laurenceb_> MS baro isnt that bad 2016-05-24T19:28:57 < Laurenceb_> someone is failing at power supply design 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2016-05-24T21:50:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-24T21:50:35 -!- Vegeta [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.77.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T21:51:26 -!- Vegeta [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.77.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-24T21:52:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-24T21:52:53 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@91.214.169.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:02:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:04:58 < Ecco> __rob: Ctrl-M? 2016-05-24T22:05:02 < Ecco> Or you can also just move the origin 2016-05-24T22:06:51 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-24T22:13:24 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.77.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:17:26 < zyp> __rob, just click anywhere and look at the dx/dy numbers 2016-05-24T22:17:41 < zyp> dx/dy is relative to the last place you clicked 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Never able to find the app im looking for in the list 2016-05-24T22:31:45 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@46.182.35.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:32:04 < Steffanx> Does not seem to work sometimes for newly installed stuff 2016-05-24T22:32:41 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@46.182.35.48] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-24T22:34:06 < Steffanx> It's just that the items are tooo large, too much scrollng, and then the annoying large characters in between 2016-05-24T22:34:12 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@46.182.35.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:35:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@91.214.169.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T22:35:19 < Rob235_> I have no idea what I'm doing, I dont feel like messing with this anymore 2016-05-24T22:35:40 < Rob235_> bye!! 2016-05-24T22:35:42 < Steffanx> better get vaping then 2016-05-24T22:35:43 -!- Rob235_ is now known as Rob235 2016-05-24T22:35:52 < Rob235> haha 2016-05-24T22:38:40 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-179-145.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:39:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-24T22:41:19 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-16-40.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-24T22:41:52 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@46.182.35.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-24T22:42:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:43:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@23.105.129.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:43:51 < Rob235> hi again 2016-05-24T22:45:12 < Steffanx> welcome 2016-05-24T22:45:24 < Rob235> who is familiar with vpn stuff 2016-05-24T22:45:30 < zyp> in what sense? 2016-05-24T22:45:42 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T22:46:27 < Rob235> I set up my router to use vpn and then os x to use a different server with ssh tunneling. (I'm not actually keeping these settings, just trying to figure out how it works) so does my info get encrypted 3 times in this case? 2016-05-24T22:46:46 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:47:31 < Rob235> I have the router set to a swiss server and os x set to an american server so that websites are the right language 2016-05-24T22:49:24 < PaulFertser> Rob235: moreover, you should be counting on end-to-end encryption for any sensitive stuff (say, https) so that adds a layer too. And probably your wifi connection (WPA/RSN). 2016-05-24T22:50:41 < Rob235> I guess I'm more wondering if it's routing the way I'm thinking, so the router connects to swiss which connects to america, which connects to the site I'm accessing? 2016-05-24T22:51:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T22:51:26 < zyp> if you're explaining it correct, then yes 2016-05-24T22:51:57 < Rob235> it's a nice setup, too bad it's so slow :) 2016-05-24T22:58:05 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T22:58:32 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:03:11 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T23:03:37 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:04:51 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T23:05:25 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:06:42 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T23:07:09 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:07:41 < Ecco> Rob235: What an awfuly complicated setup 2016-05-24T23:07:46 < Ecco> what do you want to achieve really? 2016-05-24T23:07:48 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T23:08:07 < Rob235> haha I know, I'm not keeping it, just some torrent privacy 2016-05-24T23:08:07 < Ecco> Being anonymous? Then use Tor and an appropriate browser/OS that won't leak personal information 2016-05-24T23:08:12 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:08:12 < Ecco> For torrents? 2016-05-24T23:08:21 < Ecco> Man you're not doing it right :) 2016-05-24T23:08:27 < Rob235> ? 2016-05-24T23:08:28 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-24T23:08:31 < Ecco> Using a VPN is painful because it tunnels all your traffic 2016-05-24T23:08:42 < Ecco> Just rent a seedbox :) 2016-05-24T23:09:05 < Rob235> yea but privacy with other things is nice too 2016-05-24T23:09:09 < Ecco> You rent a server, run a torrent client on it (may I recommend Transmission?), and then just download over http 2016-05-24T23:09:23 < Ecco> Privacy, well, you probably don't achieve it 2016-05-24T23:09:26 < Rob235> yea I know what it is, and I use transmission :) 2016-05-24T23:09:36 < Ecco> unless you're positive your VPN provider doesn't store logs 2016-05-24T23:09:41 < PaulFertser> Ecco: and then just download with rsync over ssh 2016-05-24T23:09:44 < Ecco> and that your browser/OS doesn't leak data 2016-05-24T23:09:46 < Rob235> says it doesnt and got good ratings 2016-05-24T23:09:53 < Ecco> PaulFerster: yeah, that works too :) 2016-05-24T23:09:57 < ReadError> which? 2016-05-24T23:09:59 < upgrdman> anyone here used Madgwick's algorithm for sensor fusion? it looks like gyro units are rads/s, but it doesn't mention accelerometer or magnetometer units. any ideas? guessing g's and Ga's? 2016-05-24T23:09:59 < ReadError> PIA ? 2016-05-24T23:09:59 < Ecco> I like HTTP better so I can send links to friends 2016-05-24T23:10:09 < ReadError> ipredator? 2016-05-24T23:10:13 < Rob235> AirVPN 2016-05-24T23:10:58 < Ecco> Rob235: If you want to be anonymous I'd recommend Tor 2016-05-24T23:11:10 < ReadError> Ecco doesnt work for everything 2016-05-24T23:11:14 < ReadError> a good VPN will 2016-05-24T23:11:20 < ReadError> you cant even google with Tor lol 2016-05-24T23:11:29 < ReadError> not consistently 2016-05-24T23:11:34 < Ecco> Well that's the issue anyway 2016-05-24T23:11:41 < Ecco> You can't definitely trust a VPN 2016-05-24T23:11:46 < ReadError> you can some 2016-05-24T23:11:49 < Rob235> so i'll use tor in addition to the two vpn connections and ssh tunneling :) 2016-05-24T23:12:00 < Ecco> To be honest, the only safe solution I found 2016-05-24T23:12:15 < Ecco> was to hack some dude's PC and use it as a proxy 2016-05-24T23:12:17 < BrainDamage> tor isn't made to sustain the heavy traffic of torrents and it's actually considered a network abuse 2016-05-24T23:12:25 < ReadError> lol 2016-05-24T23:12:31 < ReadError> tons of sites block tor 2016-05-24T23:12:33 < ReadError> so..... 2016-05-24T23:12:39 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-24T23:12:58 < Ecco> Another nice solution 2016-05-24T23:13:04 < Ecco> is to have a friend that lives abroad 2016-05-24T23:13:17 < Ecco> in a country where they don't really care about copyright and stuff 2016-05-24T23:13:25 < ReadError> there are VPN services out there exclusively for doing shady shit 2016-05-24T23:13:33 < Ecco> but well, for torrents, seriously, use a seedbox :) 2016-05-24T23:13:34 < ReadError> they dont keep logs etc 2016-05-24T23:13:42 < ReadError> yea i use a seedbox 2016-05-24T23:13:43 < Rob235> yea airvpn is one of em heh 2016-05-24T23:13:46 < Ecco> works very well, is super fast and very convenient 2016-05-24T23:14:05 < Rob235> how much are seedboxes, same as vpns? more? 2016-05-24T23:14:11 < Ecco> Also, unless you got a crazy fast internet connection 2016-05-24T23:14:13 < ReadError> i pay like, 15$ 2016-05-24T23:14:22 < ReadError> but have like 1.4TB of storage 2016-05-24T23:14:30 < ReadError> and 4TB or so upstream 2016-05-24T23:14:54 < Rob235> yea thats a lot, I paid 27 euros for 6 months for the vpn 2016-05-24T23:14:58 < Rob235> $31 2016-05-24T23:15:16 < ReadError> yea but if you are required to keep ratios and shit for sites 2016-05-24T23:15:18 < Rob235> I'll get it in the future, just don't need it right now 2016-05-24T23:15:23 < Ecco> Seedbox are very cool because unless your home connection is crazy fast it will download the movie much much faster than you'd do at home, and then you can stream it from your home connection 2016-05-24T23:15:23 < ReadError> i rather not blow my upstream 2016-05-24T23:15:28 < Rob235> yea I don't use private trackers 2016-05-24T23:15:29 < ReadError> i just rsync shit over 2016-05-24T23:15:30 < Ecco> so you have a torrent-to-movie latency that's very small 2016-05-24T23:15:44 < ReadError> stuff downloads instantly too 2016-05-24T23:15:48 < ReadError> since you have so many local peers 2016-05-24T23:15:50 < Ecco> yes 2016-05-24T23:16:11 * Ecco just got an FTTH connection installed yesterday 2016-05-24T23:16:17 < Ecco> gotta say the seedbox isn't as useful 2016-05-24T23:16:24 < BrainDamage> btw, tribler might interest you 2016-05-24T23:16:34 < BrainDamage> it's a torrent client with builtin onion routing 2016-05-24T23:16:40 < BrainDamage> which uses its own network 2016-05-24T23:16:44 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:16:44 < ReadError> how incredibly slow is it? heh 2016-05-24T23:16:47 < upgrdman> ohsix, have not messed much with it 2016-05-24T23:16:51 < upgrdman> i have no need for it atm 2016-05-24T23:16:54 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-24T23:17:01 < upgrdman> it's just on this 10DOF i got for free, so i init'd it and read it out 2016-05-24T23:17:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-24T23:17:32 < upgrdman> wonder if my segway robot will have any use for a barometer 2016-05-24T23:17:40 < Ecco> http://i.imgur.com/nFUma1h.png 2016-05-24T23:17:52 < Ecco> Not bad (and to be honest it was CPU bound) 2016-05-24T23:18:08 < upgrdman> Ecco, we all hate you now 2016-05-24T23:18:15 < ReadError> upgrdman did your fancy new servos make it better? 2016-05-24T23:18:31 < Ecco> That was download though, upload is only 250 MBit/s 2016-05-24T23:18:38 < upgrdman> ReadError, new servos are very nice. im working on the IMU part now, and will try balancing soon 2016-05-24T23:18:39 < Ecco> "only" being the operative word 2016-05-24T23:18:39 < Rob235> only... 2016-05-24T23:18:46 < Rob235> my download is 75 mbit 2016-05-24T23:18:55 < mitrax> Ecco: what isp? 2016-05-24T23:18:58 < Ecco> Orange 2016-05-24T23:19:11 < Ecco> Oh and it's uncapped 2016-05-24T23:19:15 < ReadError> is that france only? 2016-05-24T23:19:21 < Ecco> I don't know 2016-05-24T23:19:26 < ReadError> are you french? 2016-05-24T23:19:27 < Rob235> well they say 75 but I actually get a little over 2016-05-24T23:19:27 < Ecco> But yeah, we have cheap internet 2016-05-24T23:19:31 < Ecco> yep 2016-05-24T23:19:33 < mitrax> Ecco: good to know :) i'm getting FTTH soon too 2016-05-24T23:19:38 < ReadError> ahh okay, only seen them in france 2016-05-24T23:19:38 < Ecco> Great 2016-05-24T23:20:05 < Ecco> To be honest, the bandwidth is just too big 2016-05-24T23:20:10 < Ecco> what's pretty cool is the super low latency 2016-05-24T23:20:10 < upgrdman> ReadError, my new servos: https://youtu.be/cQuLKN0oYms?t=66 2016-05-24T23:20:15 < mitrax> Ecco: was reluctant to subscribe to orange but if it's uncapped (for now i guess) that's good 2016-05-24T23:20:18 < Ecco> PING www.google.com (74.125.206.99): 56 data bytes 2016-05-24T23:20:18 < Ecco> 64 bytes from 74.125.206.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=45 time=6.775 ms 2016-05-24T23:20:45 < ReadError> kewl servo thing 2016-05-24T23:20:46 < Ecco> mitrax: Well just avoid Numericable in France (their fiber offer is not fiber and is not very good anyway) 2016-05-24T23:21:00 < mitrax> Ecco: ahahah no shit 2016-05-24T23:21:06 < kakimir> Ecco: that is poor latency 2016-05-24T23:21:07 < Ecco> also Free sucks 2016-05-24T23:21:15 < kakimir> I have had under 1ms to google 2016-05-24T23:21:16 < upgrdman> ReadError, thanks. i made that too :) http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2014-09-27_Servo_Tester,_2.4GHz_Spectrum_Analyzer,_Tetris/ 2016-05-24T23:21:21 < Ecco> kakimir: seriously? 2016-05-24T23:21:35 < Ecco> I've never had sub-5ms latency, even when I was in a campus 2016-05-24T23:22:11 < ReadError> wow never seen them labeled 'gyro only' 2016-05-24T23:22:16 < ReadError> guess it makes sense though, less load 2016-05-24T23:23:05 < upgrdman> ReadError, ya. they're pushing the motor too hard, so im guessing they say gyro only to keep people from putting them in offroad cars and burned them up 2016-05-24T23:23:20 < upgrdman> but shit... 0.048sec 90oz-in is nice 2016-05-24T23:23:23 < mitrax> Ecco: how much is orange's FTTH per month? 2016-05-24T23:23:30 < Ecco> Well they have different plans 2016-05-24T23:23:54 < kakimir> local university had direct connection to local network backbone that had direct connection to local google server facility 2016-05-24T23:24:05 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-24T23:24:13 < Ecco> Starts at 28€ 2016-05-24T23:24:28 < Ecco> for 100/50 2016-05-24T23:24:32 < Ecco> and up to 42€ 2016-05-24T23:24:37 < ReadError> lol that battery is pretty bad 2016-05-24T23:24:42 < ReadError> voltage drop 2016-05-24T23:24:42 < Ecco> for theoretical 500/250, but actually 1G/250 2016-05-24T23:24:56 < mitrax> ok that's fair 2016-05-24T23:25:07 < Ecco> Apparently Bouygue has the best offer but it's not available everywhere 2016-05-24T23:25:18 < Ecco> I subscribe to that at the office, it'll get set up next week 2016-05-24T23:25:22 < Ecco> I'll tell you which one is better :) 2016-05-24T23:25:38 < Ecco> (it's 26€ for 1G) 2016-05-24T23:25:55 < mitrax> k, thanks 2016-05-24T23:26:26 < mitrax> it'll probably take another 6 months before the building gets wired anyway 2016-05-24T23:26:51 < Ecco> mitrax: and another 3 month before you can actually subscribe 2016-05-24T23:27:12 < mitrax> probably yeah 2016-05-24T23:27:18 < upgrdman> ReadError, ya its old. maybe 4 years old. 2016-05-24T23:27:19 < Ecco> there's this weird law that prevents ISPs from offering service right away 2016-05-24T23:27:33 < Ecco> well indeed 2016-05-24T23:28:43 < Ecco> I don't really understand why internet access in the US is so mediocre 2016-05-24T23:28:54 < Ecco> I've thought for a long time that it was because the country is so large 2016-05-24T23:29:20 < Ecco> but it's not as if people were spread evenly 2016-05-24T23:29:42 < Ecco> well, Google did try to venture a bit on that domain 2016-05-24T23:29:49 < Ecco> but boy it seems to be taking ages 2016-05-24T23:30:13 < Ecco> honestly here you can see people installing fiber optics cable in the street every single day 2016-05-24T23:31:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@23.105.129.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-24T23:31:29 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-24T23:31:36 < Ecco> Also you might have a regulation issue 2016-05-24T23:31:43 < Ecco> it was a hot topic here ~5 years ago 2016-05-24T23:32:01 < Ecco> the debate was about the rights that an ISP would have if it were to build the infrastructure 2016-05-24T23:32:16 < ReadError> america is pretty big too 2016-05-24T23:32:18 < Ecco> Apparently they found a pretty good solution 2016-05-24T23:32:29 < ReadError> lots of stuff is spread out, most big cities have expensive/fast options 2016-05-24T23:34:04 < ReadError> is that a hall servo upgrdman ? 2016-05-24T23:34:06 < Ecco> yeah, this also: why is everyone after fable? 2016-05-24T23:34:07 < Ecco> cable 2016-05-24T23:34:21 < Ecco> I mean, DSL isn't very fast but it reuses existing infrastructure 2016-05-24T23:34:25 < ReadError> cable is better 2016-05-24T23:34:26 < Ecco> and it's pretty good 2016-05-24T23:34:30 < ReadError> distance doesnt matter 2016-05-24T23:34:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-24T23:34:36 < upgrdman> ReadError, no. pot. of course, the pot was removed. 2016-05-24T23:34:45 < Ecco> Yes, cable is better, but everyone has a POTS line 2016-05-24T23:34:59 < ReadError> they have some of those nice fancy brushless/hall servos 2016-05-24T23:35:05 < ReadError> too bad I dont have a reason to use em 2016-05-24T23:35:23 < ReadError> POTS? 2016-05-24T23:35:26 < upgrdman> ya i specifically avoided brushless servos for this project. that's be a bitch to drive 2016-05-24T23:35:49 < Ecco> plain old telephone service 2016-05-24T23:36:03 < ReadError> Ecco that stuff is dying out 2016-05-24T23:36:08 < ReadError> landlines 2016-05-24T23:36:12 < Ecco> yeah I guess 2016-05-24T23:36:19 < ReadError> most get telephone from their cable provider if they have it.. 2016-05-24T23:36:22 < ReadError> or a lot of people do 2016-05-24T23:36:41 < __rob> Ecco Zyp , it was more for moving. I have a dual output buck regulator, I wanted the layout symmetrical 2016-05-24T23:36:49 < __rob> so I wanted to set the origin to the IC 2016-05-24T23:36:56 < __rob> while I do that layout 2016-05-24T23:36:59 < __rob> without moving it each time 2016-05-24T23:37:07 < __rob> so I can just get a dx dy wrt to that 2016-05-24T23:37:17 < upgrdman> ohsix, no 2016-05-24T23:37:23 < upgrdman> ohsix, it's a balancing robot 2016-05-24T23:37:28 < upgrdman> no need for that 2016-05-24T23:37:30 < __rob> but moving with the coordinates in the properites window 2016-05-24T23:37:37 < __rob> rather then click and move 2016-05-24T23:37:43 < upgrdman> i just use servos because its a nice formfactor for a geared dc motor 2016-05-24T23:38:10 < ReadError> upgrdman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbMHdZqfdas 2016-05-24T23:38:13 < ReadError> think he means that 2016-05-24T23:38:16 < upgrdman> ya but making it super fast would just make it harder to work with 2016-05-24T23:38:58 < upgrdman> ReadError, hmm that might be worth trying in the future 2016-05-24T23:39:13 < ReadError> ya they make 'gimbal motors' 2016-05-24T23:39:22 < ReadError> they are wound a different way than most 2016-05-24T23:39:30 < ReadError> delta.. i think 2016-05-24T23:39:33 < ReadError> vs star 2016-05-24T23:39:36 < ReadError> could be backwards 2016-05-24T23:41:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:ac74:9d3c:325a:f745] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-24T23:46:08 < kakimir> did you know that bldc motors eat trapedzoidal voltage instead of sine? 2016-05-24T23:46:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-24T23:46:50 < kakimir> and actually generate trapedzoidish voltage too when spun 2016-05-24T23:48:12 < kakimir> it's all about size of magnetic pole to winding pole 2016-05-24T23:49:19 < kakimir> that is smaller - causing constantish voltage when magnet glides over the winding pole 2016-05-24T23:49:46 < kakimir> and ramps when magnet leaves 2016-05-24T23:50:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-24T23:51:48 < kakimir> you know better --- Day changed Wed May 25 2016 2016-05-25T00:02:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.99.171] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-25T00:13:41 < karlp> fucking brand new usb3 hub, paid extra to have one with a proper power supply and seem more legit, 2016-05-25T00:13:57 < karlp> enumerates the hub, powers devices, doesn't enumerate _any_ devices. 2016-05-25T00:14:07 < karlp> so much for paying for better 2016-05-25T00:14:59 < karlp> no, I'm only even trying usb2 devices in it at the moemnt 2016-05-25T00:15:57 < karlp> have another usb3 hub, same chipset, works jsut fine. 2016-05-25T00:21:20 -!- __rob [~rob@host109-153-137-249.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T00:21:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-25T00:22:07 -!- __rob2 [~rob@host86-165-132-167.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T00:25:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-25T00:25:51 < karlp> huh, usb3 device works in all ports 2016-05-25T00:26:00 < karlp> usb 2 device works in usb3 downstream 2016-05-25T00:35:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@109.202.107.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T00:38:54 < karlp> no, it's not a separate thing like usb1. 2016-05-25T00:39:28 < karlp> usb3 is separat yes, but the usb2 hub portions show up, and the usb2 devices all get power, so vbus is there ok. 2016-05-25T00:40:53 < karlp> yes, but I don't expect that in a reviewed, "expensive" device. 2016-05-25T00:40:55 < karlp> anyway, 2016-05-25T00:50:46 < karlp> hoo, weird, 2016-05-25T00:50:57 < karlp> usb2 device doesn't work, plug in usb3 device in another port, usb2 device comes to life! 2016-05-25T00:51:05 < karlp> was just trying to take pictures for the RMA 2016-05-25T00:52:09 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-25T00:53:04 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@109.202.107.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T00:55:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@109.202.107.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-25T00:59:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T01:02:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T01:02:40 -!- Rob235__ [~Rob235@23.105.129.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T01:02:51 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@109.202.107.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-25T01:05:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-25T01:06:24 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T01:07:03 -!- Rob235__ [~Rob235@23.105.129.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-25T01:07:25 < Laurenceb_> every time your mom opens the trapdoor to the basement to talk to you 2016-05-25T01:08:30 < Laurenceb_> holy tldr wikipedia 2016-05-25T01:08:50 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-25T01:10:16 < Laurenceb_> ohsix confirmed as Shillary shill 2016-05-25T01:11:30 < Laurenceb_> ohsix speaks sense for once 2016-05-25T01:11:56 < Laurenceb_> Hillary is Bush light 2016-05-25T01:13:14 < Laurenceb_> even I don't know who that is 2016-05-25T01:14:00 < kakimir> that's bad 2016-05-25T01:14:04 < Laurenceb_> oh god video bloggers 2016-05-25T01:14:06 < Laurenceb_> aids 2016-05-25T01:15:34 < kakimir> big clive... I have subscribed but I think the content is pretty blah 2016-05-25T01:16:55 < upgrdman> so you know how when people test an IMU/AHRS they often have a GUI with a 3D box or ball that shows orientation. whats the easiest way to do that in c or java 2016-05-25T01:17:16 < upgrdman> (how to draw simple 3d shits) 2016-05-25T01:17:33 < upgrdman> isnt that some arduino trash? 2016-05-25T01:17:49 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-25T01:18:17 < upgrdman> like, a MAKER book on their homepage 2016-05-25T01:18:25 < upgrdman> but ya, cool, this could be very useful 2016-05-25T01:19:01 < Laurenceb_> oh god makers 2016-05-25T01:19:05 < Laurenceb_> die in a fire 2016-05-25T01:19:48 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: I was planning to do that with qt and opengl 2016-05-25T01:19:53 < Laurenceb_> but then I got high 2016-05-25T01:22:36 < Laurenceb_> I think there is a way to render a model to a canvas in qt 2016-05-25T01:22:50 < Laurenceb_> if so then you just rotate it with the quaternion/matrix whatever 2016-05-25T01:24:17 < Laurenceb_> need to do this with my horse gui at some point 2016-05-25T01:24:55 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.129.24.155] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T01:25:17 < Rob235> hmm, never thought my router would be a limiting factor in anything I did 2016-05-25T01:28:18 < Rob235> DAMN YOU ROUTER!! DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO! 2016-05-25T01:28:24 < Rob235> sorry for yelling 2016-05-25T01:29:12 < Rob235> so my router can't handle high speed vpn so I guess each machine will need their own settings 2016-05-25T01:36:39 < englishman> wat 2016-05-25T01:36:56 < englishman> i have shitty lunix router lemme connect to vpn and see what i get 2016-05-25T01:38:07 < englishman> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5351728784 2016-05-25T01:39:41 < englishman> maybe your vpn sucks 2016-05-25T01:40:10 < Rob235> what kinda processor 2016-05-25T01:40:22 < upgrdman> atmega328 /s 2016-05-25T01:40:30 < englishman> i dono something fairly modern 2016-05-25T01:40:33 < englishman> not old wrt54g trash 2016-05-25T01:40:53 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T01:41:19 < ReadError> would be cool if a router supported some way to have VPN and non VPN setup per client 2016-05-25T01:41:25 < Rob235> the vpn is fine, I get basically full speed when I use the program to do it on each machine but I only get like 20-30 mbit/s when using the asus router's vpn 2016-05-25T01:41:29 < ReadError> then some easy way to click to enable/disable on each client 2016-05-25T01:41:29 < englishman> hm, cant you do this 2016-05-25T01:41:36 < Rob235> that would be cool 2016-05-25T01:42:18 < englishman> my thing can do one ssid on vpn and one not/other vpn 2016-05-25T01:42:20 < englishman> but thats not the same 2016-05-25T01:42:24 < englishman> still should be possible 2016-05-25T01:42:33 < ReadError> eh ya but most my stuff is wired 2016-05-25T01:42:53 < ReadError> yea its 100% possible 2016-05-25T01:43:04 < ReadError> it just hasnt been done so its eazy 2016-05-25T01:44:42 < ReadError> guess the easiest way would some script that changed IP/gateways on the desktop 2016-05-25T01:44:49 < ReadError> and have one for vpn and one for normal 2016-05-25T01:45:01 < ReadError> but thats kinda hacky and bad 2016-05-25T01:47:45 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.77.106] has quit [Quit: Until we meet again...!] 2016-05-25T01:48:29 < upgrdman> vegeta... wtf. isnt that some pokemon or someshit 2016-05-25T01:49:35 < ReadError> ohsix decide? 2016-05-25T01:49:59 < ReadError> change gateways 2016-05-25T01:50:04 < ReadError> 1 gateway = normal 2016-05-25T01:50:09 < ReadError> 2nd = vpn 2016-05-25T01:50:17 < ReadError> then the router can handle it past that 2016-05-25T01:54:58 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-25T01:55:16 < MightyPork> hi, anyone up atm? 2016-05-25T01:55:27 < MightyPork> solving Yet Another Strange Issue™ 2016-05-25T01:55:59 < MightyPork> with this F103, when I write ADC1->CR2, it still reads as all zeros 2016-05-25T01:56:09 < MightyPork> seems none of the ADC registers can be written 2016-05-25T01:56:20 < MightyPork> I have enabled clock and all, should work, right? 2016-05-25T01:57:56 < MightyPork> oooh I'm a retard 2016-05-25T01:58:03 < MightyPork> RCC_APB1PeriphClockCmd(RCC_APB2ENR_ADC1EN, ENABLE); 2016-05-25T01:58:16 < MightyPork> burnt maybe an hour on this crap 2016-05-25T01:58:21 < MightyPork> not the first time for me either 2016-05-25T01:58:38 < MightyPork> it is indeed 2016-05-25T01:58:55 < MightyPork> SPL does really poor job of checking the arguments 2016-05-25T02:01:01 < MightyPork> it does, but in a completely useless way 2016-05-25T02:01:59 < MightyPork> basically checks that you're setting one bit in the RCC register. except AHBEN, APB1EN and APB2EN have the same bits - naturally :( 2016-05-25T02:28:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-25T02:29:14 < Laurenceb_> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1464073780383.webm 2016-05-25T02:31:36 < MightyPork> you can specify what it should do on assert in spl. like, print file and line 2016-05-25T03:00:09 < ReadError> ohsix seen "This is Not Happening" on yotube? 2016-05-25T03:00:28 -!- Bright [~isthe@gayest.horse] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:01:15 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxXPXVaBzjI 2016-05-25T03:01:19 < ReadError> ya could be 2016-05-25T03:01:25 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD7nPL1U-R5qsyLTu7bJsMNX5mbgbWlN8 2016-05-25T03:02:18 < ReadError> pretty good lineup tho 2016-05-25T03:02:24 < ReadError> of comedians 2016-05-25T03:02:31 < ReadError> shits raw 2016-05-25T03:03:28 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vhaQIp5PBs "This Is Not Happening - Henry Rollins - Punk Rock Hyenas" 2016-05-25T03:03:30 < ReadError> wat? 2016-05-25T03:03:33 < ReadError> henry rollins... 2016-05-25T03:03:38 < ReadError> wouldnt figure him to be on 2016-05-25T03:03:54 < ReadError> ive only seen him in more serious shit 2016-05-25T03:04:01 < Laurenceb_> Documentary: After her plan to colonise Mars fails, transwoman melisa needs a tattoo removed 2016-05-25T03:04:04 < Laurenceb_> wtf uk tv 2016-05-25T03:04:25 < ReadError> ya 2016-05-25T03:04:30 < ReadError> and he was on sons of anarchy 2016-05-25T03:04:32 < Laurenceb_> this is not a muckumentary, this is real 2016-05-25T03:04:34 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-25T03:04:44 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ i think i saw some ep about that shit 2016-05-25T03:04:52 < ReadError> i duno if she got a tat removed 2016-05-25T03:04:59 < ReadError> but it was some retarded UK bish 2016-05-25T03:05:06 < ReadError> ohsix never seen 2016-05-25T03:08:43 < Laurenceb_> everyone is from UK or just watches tv over internets? 2016-05-25T03:08:53 < Laurenceb_> so confuse 2016-05-25T03:08:54 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-05-25T03:09:17 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:09:35 < Laurenceb_> well murican tv is shite 2016-05-25T03:09:42 < ReadError> lool 2016-05-25T03:09:46 < ReadError> yea fuck that not watching 2016-05-25T03:09:47 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-25T03:09:52 < Laurenceb_> Homeland and Xfiles were good for a few series 2016-05-25T03:09:59 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:10:02 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ bish please 2016-05-25T03:10:05 < ReadError> america has the best TV 2016-05-25T03:10:37 < ReadError> i dont watch tv 2016-05-25T03:10:42 < ReadError> i download shows 2016-05-25T03:10:46 < Laurenceb_> crt is /pol/ack confirmed 2016-05-25T03:11:14 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/mICP2xI.jpg 2016-05-25T03:11:56 < Laurenceb_> The only Race War will be /pol/acks fighting over their Asian girlfriends. 2016-05-25T03:12:33 < ReadError> This Is Not Happening - Giulia Rozzi - Poop Hand - Uncensored 2016-05-25T03:12:42 < ReadError> lol not watched this one, sounds interesting tho 2016-05-25T03:13:31 < Laurenceb_> lul everyone hates putin 2016-05-25T03:13:43 < Laurenceb_> Isreal is even missile striking his copters now 2016-05-25T03:15:33 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-25T03:15:59 < Laurenceb_> oh god that voiceover 2016-05-25T03:16:08 < Laurenceb_> can only think of look around you 2016-05-25T03:16:20 < Laurenceb_> open your copybook now 2016-05-25T03:16:22 < Laurenceb_> turn to page 4 2016-05-25T03:16:45 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:18:26 < Laurenceb_> shit this video looks like it was made by /pol/ 2016-05-25T03:19:05 < Laurenceb_> ITS ALL SHILLS UR POSTING IN SHILL THREAD 2016-05-25T03:20:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:27:44 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node18.15.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:33:17 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:34:18 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-25T03:35:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-25T03:40:39 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-25T03:45:24 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T03:54:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T04:07:19 < dongs> http://blog.atmel.com/2016/04/20/aaduino-is-an-arduino-compatible-board-the-size-of-a-aa-battery/ 2016-05-25T04:08:24 < dongs> why cant we have amazing things like this with stm32 2016-05-25T04:08:29 < dongs> truly blogworthy 2016-05-25T04:09:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-146-22-164.range109-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T04:12:55 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@109.202.107.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T04:14:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.129.24.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T04:20:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-25T04:22:33 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-147-99-81.range109-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T04:26:34 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node18.15.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-25T04:30:27 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-147-99-81.range109-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-25T04:36:31 < dongs> PeterM: related to your tweet a few days ago https://i.imgur.com/8LlcNq2.jpg 2016-05-25T04:37:29 < dongs> meanwhile at valve http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/24/11761242/valve-former-employee-lawsuit-transgender-discrimination 2016-05-25T04:42:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-25T04:46:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T04:51:54 < aandrew> dongs: haha mount everest 2016-05-25T05:14:52 < dongs> waht should I do with unused pins on led driver? just nc that shit? 2016-05-25T05:14:54 < dongs> or tie to gnd 2016-05-25T05:17:07 < dongs> gah 2016-05-25T05:17:11 < dongs> TI says 'pulldown to gnd 2016-05-25T05:17:22 < dongs> thanks for being s o clear 2016-05-25T05:27:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T05:32:10 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 2016-05-25T05:41:40 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T05:43:12 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T05:49:30 -!- lfas [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T05:50:19 < dongs> http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/cyberalert/keysweeper.authcheckdam.pdf 2016-05-25T05:52:52 < lfas> cubemx is wonderful for newbies. Anyone knows if Microchip PIC has similar software like cubemx? 2016-05-25T05:53:06 < dongs> yes. 2016-05-25T05:53:10 < dongs> its called not using microchip pic 2016-05-25T05:54:05 < lfas> There are people complaining about cubemx. http://www.eevblog.com/forum/microcontrollers/st's-(stm32cube)-software-ecosystem-is-terrible-how-can-we-fix-it/ 2016-05-25T05:54:13 < lfas> Are the complaints still valid today? 2016-05-25T05:54:38 < dongs> lfas: its "terrible" if you're a GNU/Purist who wants to have everything Free as in AIDS kinda thing 2016-05-25T05:54:53 < dongs> if you haev a job to do and no time to waste, its perfectly fine 2016-05-25T05:55:12 < dongs> dude who works here who isn't a pro at anything has turned out several products using cubemx that work very well 2016-05-25T05:55:21 < lfas> may i ask u guys what are some disadvantages of using cubemx? 2016-05-25T05:55:41 < dongs> lfas: HAL is bloated, the API is kinda shitty, its not exactly fast (2-3 layers of abstraction here), etc. 2016-05-25T05:55:52 < dongs> other than that its perfectly fine 2016-05-25T05:56:00 < dongs> oh, and there are some bugs in it.. 2016-05-25T05:56:08 < dongs> sometimes 2016-05-25T05:56:30 < lfas> is HAL good enough for commercial products? 2016-05-25T05:56:42 < dongs> yes 2016-05-25T05:58:48 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T05:59:22 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@109.202.107.5] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-25T06:01:19 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T06:02:30 < machinehum> Does anyone see why this won't turn on my pin C0 2016-05-25T06:02:33 < machinehum> http://pastebin.com/V6GvqGy3 2016-05-25T06:03:23 < dongs> why are you using stdperiph for everything then using register write to set gpio? 2016-05-25T06:03:32 < dongs> Might as well use GPIO_SetBit() or wahtever 2016-05-25T06:03:53 < machinehum> hmm 2016-05-25T06:04:03 < machinehum> That was just in the example I modified 2016-05-25T06:04:18 < machinehum> I'll dig through the gpio dependency 2016-05-25T06:19:40 < dongs> crt, how much of your shit uses those IDC ribbon shits between modules on pcb 2016-05-25T06:19:47 < dongs> er between modules inside box 2016-05-25T06:19:59 < dongs> or is it all on huge board 2016-05-25T06:20:02 < dongs> like mixer and shit 2016-05-25T06:20:20 < dongs> or: what do they use for interconnects when tehres manyboards 2016-05-25T06:35:15 < machinehum> If I just want to use HSI (internal osscilator) for the perephals how do I specify that? 2016-05-25T06:35:29 < dongs> in the cube clocktree thing. 2016-05-25T06:36:14 < machinehum> void RCC_SYSCLKConfig(uint32_t RCC_SYSCLKSource) 2016-05-25T06:36:23 < dongs> its more than that. 2016-05-25T06:53:11 < dongs> http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=210-AHSQ 2016-05-25T06:53:41 < dongs> my gookmonitor can already do that for half the price 2016-05-25T06:53:51 < dongs> can tile 4 1080piss inputs to make it like youre doing a lot of work 2016-05-25T07:00:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T07:18:50 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-25T07:19:27 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T07:22:34 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-25T07:22:37 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-25T07:24:24 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106789684bf2804.vc.shawcable.net] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 1.0.1"] 2016-05-25T07:26:58 < dongs> oh, ffc 2016-05-25T07:27:14 < dongs> that looks like a toshiba pcb 2016-05-25T07:27:17 < dongs> or panasonic 2016-05-25T07:36:35 < dongs> does carrying audio shit over ffc reduce the highs 2016-05-25T07:37:24 < englishman> why bother with four 1080p monitors 2016-05-25T07:37:29 < englishman> just buy 4 1080p monitors 2016-05-25T07:37:30 < englishman> for $400 2016-05-25T07:43:47 < dongs> oh ok 2016-05-25T07:43:52 < dongs> digital bits dont jitter around on that kinda cable? 2016-05-25T07:44:02 < dongs> like falling off the edges of the cable 2016-05-25T07:44:26 < Bright> sometimes they get confused if they go too fast and go backwards 2016-05-25T07:44:46 < dongs> mariokart bits 2016-05-25T07:44:53 < dongs> you get a little cloudy guy floating above tellin them to turn around 2016-05-25T07:46:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T07:50:24 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@202-159-154-174.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-25T08:18:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T08:32:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T08:46:55 < dongs> pump it up 2016-05-25T08:55:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T09:00:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Need-develop-schematic-device-similar/ 2016-05-25T09:10:11 < englishman> literally only one requirement 2016-05-25T09:10:16 < englishman> yet posts it to freelancer 2016-05-25T09:13:53 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/CPlusPlus-Programming/Audrino-controller/ 2016-05-25T09:29:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T09:29:18 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-25T09:29:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-25T09:38:07 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T09:38:33 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T09:42:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 2016-05-25T09:44:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T09:47:31 -!- eft [~nik@c-67-188-115-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-25T09:49:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T09:49:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-25T09:50:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-25T09:59:34 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T09:59:34 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-25T09:59:46 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-05-25T10:00:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-25T10:04:03 -!- eft [~nik@2601:b00:c580:eaa0:2022:10b8:9180:70fc] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T10:25:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T10:31:35 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Microchip-Drivers-for-dsPIC-system/ 2016-05-25T10:32:06 < dongs> Copyright Pathfinder Events Pty Ltd, Unit 1, 6 Graham St, Underwood, Brisbane, Queensland 2016-05-25T10:32:51 < mitrax> gaaah fucking F410 ADC dma conversion doesn't complete 2016-05-25T10:33:03 < dongs> did you fuck up adding channels ccorreclty 2016-05-25T10:34:45 < dongs> what the fuck 2016-05-25T10:34:51 < dongs> that thing looks like some kinda larp device 2016-05-25T10:35:11 < dongs> SATR ID (Sender) 10 Battle Code 2 Team Code 3 Stun Code 4 Undead 2016-05-25T10:35:23 < dongs> Mystery Armor Team Code:3 bits 2016-05-25T10:35:24 < dongs> Battle Code:2 bits 2016-05-25T10:36:34 < mitrax> i'm sure i fucked up somewhere, weird thing is i do pretty much the same thing as with F0, ... but it's HAL code i'll have to dig 2016-05-25T10:37:34 < jpa-> > HAL code 2016-05-25T10:37:36 < jpa-> found your problem 2016-05-25T10:38:16 < mitrax> yup :) 2016-05-25T10:54:13 < mitrax> tube 2016-05-25T11:03:20 < dongs> crt, whats the standard dip rotary pot that everyone uses 2016-05-25T11:03:33 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/bourns-inc/PTV09A-4020U-B103/PTV09A-4020U-B103-ND/3781130 2016-05-25T11:03:37 < dongs> like this trash 2016-05-25T11:03:43 < zyp> that blue thing? 2016-05-25T11:03:49 < zyp> ah, no 2016-05-25T11:03:51 < dongs> nope like ^ that shit 2016-05-25T11:03:54 < dongs> blue thing I know 2016-05-25T11:03:58 < dongs> i already got chinagirl to find clones 2016-05-25T11:04:01 < dongs> they're bourns somethin 2016-05-25T11:04:17 < zyp> idk, I don't use those 2016-05-25T11:04:21 < dongs> multiturn 2016-05-25T11:04:25 < dongs> trimpot or osmeshit 2016-05-25T11:04:29 < dongs> blue box + small screw in corner 2016-05-25T11:04:47 < zyp> yeah, that's the ones I were thinking of 2016-05-25T11:05:10 < dongs> pretty sure thats a standard footprint for this kinda shit 2016-05-25T11:06:21 < dongs> thats jsut a slider pot 2016-05-25T11:06:28 < dongs> not even encoder 2016-05-25T11:06:46 < dongs> ah 2016-05-25T11:06:50 < dongs> they dont use pots? 2016-05-25T11:07:26 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/32655658208.html these are zypshits 2016-05-25T11:07:29 < dongs> like 13c/ea lolo 2016-05-25T11:07:44 < dongs> i think theyre like $5/ea from bourns legit 2016-05-25T11:09:04 < dongs> Shaft Length ...... 12.5mm 7MM two kinds, the default hair 12.5MM, floral axis. 2016-05-25T11:12:22 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T11:13:42 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qjrgeikdjvkjlbje] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-25T11:16:07 < metRo_> hi all 2016-05-25T11:16:35 < metRo_> stm32f072 manual says that I can connect TIM3 to TIM14 2016-05-25T11:16:47 < dongs> make sure it doesnt say otherwise elseweher 2016-05-25T11:17:07 < metRo_> however the TIM14 register map doesn;t show info about the register to do that 2016-05-25T11:17:08 < metRo_> SMCR 2016-05-25T11:17:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-147.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T11:18:50 < metRo_> however I can access SMCR register on gdb 2016-05-25T11:18:52 < metRo_> :s 2016-05-25T11:23:54 < dongs> Switch: a 3 road section wave switch, we use it to open / close the input power supply for the module. When in use, please confirm the toggle switch to the OPEN state (near the board inside). 2016-05-25T11:31:57 < dongs> aandrew: http://simcomm2m.com/En/module/detail.aspx?id=86 this exists 2016-05-25T11:32:34 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.100.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-25T11:59:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese] 2016-05-25T11:59:50 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T12:06:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-25T12:06:35 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T12:08:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T12:43:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-147.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T12:46:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Build-solar-tracker/ 2016-05-25T12:46:47 < dongs> > 100kW 2016-05-25T12:57:06 -!- lfas [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-25T12:59:01 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T12:59:17 < __rob2> anyone ever get anything like this appearing after maybe a week on a hand soldered board, http://www.dfrsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/CCA-Flux-Residues-3.jpg 2016-05-25T13:01:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-25T13:02:41 < zyp> flux residue drying out after a week or something? 2016-05-25T13:09:00 < ReadError> Newsletter – Microchip Acquires Atmel 2016-05-25T13:09:04 < ReadError> so its official now huh 2016-05-25T13:09:13 < ReadError> probably 3 day old internet news by now 2016-05-25T13:09:25 < ReadError> i know there was talks about it forever tho 2016-05-25T13:10:15 < ReadError> __rob2 ive had some flux do that 2016-05-25T13:10:21 < ReadError> its a real pain in the ass to get off 2016-05-25T13:10:29 < ReadError> what fixed it (visually) -> reheat it 2016-05-25T13:10:33 < ReadError> reflow it 2016-05-25T13:10:45 < ReadError> no alcohol wont work 2016-05-25T13:10:50 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-147.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T13:12:21 < karlp> ReadError: been official for a long time now. 2016-05-25T13:12:47 < karlp> the atmel website had been relabelled ages ago, microchip had already sent out revised earnings forecasts, and newsletters outline part committments 2016-05-25T13:12:53 < karlp> not really sure what this new mailing is meant ot be adding 2016-05-25T13:13:17 < ReadError> hmmm i thought a while back it was just in talks 2016-05-25T13:13:28 < ReadError> looks like it was closed jan19th or so 2016-05-25T13:14:13 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-05-25T13:14:14 < __rob2> ReadError, yea I can't get it off with Alchohol 2016-05-25T13:14:14 < dongs> whats innovatin 2016-05-25T13:14:23 < __rob2> Its strange, only on a couple of boards, so I think your right 2016-05-25T13:14:32 < __rob2> lack of heat maybe is the problem 2016-05-25T13:14:34 < ReadError> __rob2 hit it with some hot air 2016-05-25T13:14:39 < ReadError> and it will go away 2016-05-25T13:14:40 < dongs> __rob2: did you figure out your altidumb thing 2016-05-25T13:14:45 < ReadError> what solder/flux do you use? 2016-05-25T13:14:51 < __rob2> Some no clean stuff 2016-05-25T13:14:55 < ReadError> ya same 2016-05-25T13:14:58 < ReadError> which kind tho 2016-05-25T13:15:02 < dongs> my flux never leaves that shit 2016-05-25T13:15:08 < dongs> also I have proper flux claener spray stuff 2016-05-25T13:15:13 < dongs> and liquid/brushed stuff 2016-05-25T13:15:59 < __rob2> ReadError, think iut was this stuff http://uk.farnell.com/multicore-loctite/x3312i/flux-x3312i-5l/dp/1115473 2016-05-25T13:16:35 < __rob2> dongs, you using a rosin flux ? 2016-05-25T13:16:41 < ReadError> idk I couldnt get this shit off even with sprays 2016-05-25T13:16:55 < __rob2> yea I have tried toolbrush and various solvents 2016-05-25T13:16:58 < dongs> __rob2: i dont know, I have some jappu rohs paste 2016-05-25T13:17:05 < dongs> i hardly ever handsolder 2016-05-25T13:17:25 < __rob2> ReadError, did yours appear after a while ? 2016-05-25T13:17:26 < dongs> i have some solder stuff on spool, it is with rosin core flux 2016-05-25T13:17:27 < __rob2> like a week or so 2016-05-25T13:17:44 < ReadError> __rob2 just once after everything dried 2016-05-25T13:17:50 < ReadError> it doesnt happen all the time tho 2016-05-25T13:17:58 < ReadError> i cant put my finger on the cause 2016-05-25T13:18:02 < __rob2> yea, same 2016-05-25T13:18:08 < __rob2> I have 3 boards assembled at the same time 2016-05-25T13:18:11 < __rob2> 1 is fine 2016-05-25T13:18:17 < __rob2> both have been kept in the same place 2016-05-25T13:18:50 < __rob2> I'm hand soldering it with a air rework station which I've hooked a foot pedal up to 2016-05-25T13:19:03 < __rob2> usually I give it a good blast, maybe they jsut need heat for longer 2016-05-25T13:19:09 < __rob2> flux perhaps didn't active properly 2016-05-25T13:19:51 < __rob2> Might try a rosin based one, apparently that stuff just cleans off with alchohol 2016-05-25T13:22:11 < __rob2> http://uk.farnell.com/martin-smt/ht00-0119/flux-creme-tub-lead-free-18g/dp/2352952 2016-05-25T13:22:13 < __rob2> maybe that.. 2016-05-25T13:22:13 < jpa-> never seen a flux that wouldn't clean with isopropanol pretty well 2016-05-25T13:22:26 < jpa-> ethanol is not so good 2016-05-25T13:22:57 < __rob2> what flux do you use jpa- ? 2016-05-25T13:24:14 < jpa-> well, whatever happens to be in my solder + i've been cheap-ass and filled my flux pen with just wood resin dissolved in isopropanol 2016-05-25T13:28:06 < dongs> thats some pro shit there jpa- 2016-05-25T13:28:15 < dongs> ohsix-worthy 2016-05-25T13:30:17 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.78.79] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T13:30:50 < jpa-> i know, all the pro's make their own flux 2016-05-25T13:32:03 < dongs> < crt> i just use the penis mate 2016-05-25T13:32:04 < dongs> fixd 2016-05-25T13:32:50 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/32628287391.html hm another "rV09' 2016-05-25T13:32:55 < dongs> chinagirl says that was made in taiwan 2016-05-25T13:33:00 < dongs> alpha taiwan pots 2016-05-25T13:33:06 < dongs> .. and thiehr rv09 series is like... right angle shit 2016-05-25T13:33:11 < dongs> fuckin cloning chinks damn 2016-05-25T13:35:16 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/32583283359.html 2016-05-25T13:35:45 < dongs> pic shows right angle, "datasheet" below shows fucking straight type 2016-05-25T13:37:19 < dongs> What are the specifications to be photographed please leave a message! 2016-05-25T13:37:54 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/32279388021.html wanna bet t he only ALPS t hing in that picture is the paper in the back 2016-05-25T13:38:32 < dongs> ya? 2016-05-25T13:38:45 < dongs> no more 1000 times folded nippon steel? 2016-05-25T13:39:15 < dongs> ownt 2016-05-25T13:44:59 < dongs> cool url bro 2016-05-25T13:45:04 < dongs> you should clean them like i do 2016-05-25T13:45:18 < dongs> god damn i clicked on a de.aliexpress link from google search 2016-05-25T13:45:26 < dongs> VERSAND NACH 2016-05-25T13:45:44 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/1014064109.html 2016-05-25T13:45:47 < dongs> fixd 4 u 2016-05-25T13:46:02 < dongs> you can also do this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/cuck/1014064109.html 2016-05-25T13:47:04 < dongs> that looks standard other than that extra green shti 2016-05-25T13:47:41 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0/1014063956.html 2016-05-25T13:47:47 < dongs> nice, vicko brings a bunch of related shit 2016-05-25T13:48:07 < dongs> getting into audiophile territory here 2016-05-25T13:50:25 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/scam/32259960328.html 2016-05-25T13:51:10 < dongs> whats with resistance? 2016-05-25T13:51:35 < dongs> center click or something? 2016-05-25T13:52:13 < jadew> lol 2016-05-25T13:52:13 < Sync> hm, are there any small addressable leds? those 5050 ones are too large for my application 2016-05-25T13:52:29 < dongs> sync, there's 3x3 shit with same thing 2016-05-25T13:52:41 < dongs> AP204 or someshit, maybe even wswhatever 2016-05-25T13:54:57 < Sync> yeah the apa102 shits, indeed 2016-05-25T13:55:14 < Sync> but that is using some kind of spi protocol iirc 2016-05-25T13:55:48 < dongs> oh maybe 2016-05-25T13:56:45 < Sync> well I guess I can just use a gate to select where to send spi shit 2016-05-25T13:56:51 < Sync> because they don't have chipselect 2016-05-25T13:56:58 < dongs> err 2016-05-25T13:56:59 < dongs> oh.. 2016-05-25T13:57:12 < dongs> you only have one spi bus? 2016-05-25T13:57:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.110] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T14:12:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-25T14:14:05 < Sync> yes dongs 2016-05-25T14:14:32 < Sync> 48pin f303, 15 analog ins used usart1 used 8 timer channels used + 1spi 2016-05-25T14:14:47 < Sync> at least according to the cube there is no spi left that I can use 2016-05-25T14:15:56 < dongs> yeah probably not then 2016-05-25T14:17:52 < Sync> I could software spi them 2016-05-25T14:17:53 < Sync> but eh 2016-05-25T14:18:10 < dongs> got an extra timer? 2016-05-25T14:18:22 < dongs> clock with timer and GPIO DMA for data 2016-05-25T14:18:47 < dongs> or how about usart clock out 2016-05-25T14:18:52 < dongs> oh but that has start/stop bits garbage 2016-05-25T14:21:30 < Sync> yes 2016-05-25T14:21:59 < Sync> it's a shitty situation 2016-05-25T14:22:14 < Sync> but I also don't want to route 32 bi-color leds 2016-05-25T14:22:20 < Sync> + 595 latches 2016-05-25T14:22:45 < dongs> does 5050 not fit or something? 2016-05-25T14:23:24 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-25T14:23:40 < Sync> I need some leds as status display on some IO ports 2016-05-25T14:23:48 < Sync> and I don't want to route all the shit out 2016-05-25T14:23:58 < Sync> so something addressable is neat 2016-05-25T14:24:06 < dongs> right but how does 5050 not fit there? like between <something> or osmehting? 2016-05-25T14:24:36 < dongs> Sync: you know they make this too right https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12986 2016-05-25T14:25:01 < dongs> you can bend those bad boys around your shit 2016-05-25T14:25:15 < dongs> APA106 2016-05-25T14:26:23 < Sync> hmm, pth tho 2016-05-25T14:26:29 < dongs> thats the point 2016-05-25T14:26:49 < dongs> you can fit them around your ports :) 2016-05-25T14:28:45 < Sync> yeah, I saw that you can also get them in 3mm 2016-05-25T14:29:02 < Sync> my ports are terminated in those 3.5mm terminal blocks 2016-05-25T14:29:29 < dongs> mhm 2016-05-25T14:35:16 < dongs> Sync: how many pins do you need to do 32 leds with 595s? 2016-05-25T14:35:31 < dongs> just clock and data? 2016-05-25T14:35:52 < dongs> oh and latch i guess 2016-05-25T14:37:05 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-25T14:37:08 < Sync> but I have chipselect 2016-05-25T14:37:22 < Sync> so I can do double duty on my spi 2016-05-25T14:37:31 < dongs> mhm 2016-05-25T14:37:48 < dongs> so you can dump stuff to 595s by spi? 2016-05-25T14:38:06 < dongs> i guess that works 2016-05-25T14:38:06 < dongs> hmm 2016-05-25T14:38:09 < dongs> i should try that. 2016-05-25T14:38:53 < Sync> wat 2016-05-25T14:39:03 < Sync> you never portexpanded your shit with 595s? 2016-05-25T14:39:11 < dongs> nope, not pro enough 2016-05-25T14:39:30 < dongs> i stick with arduino pro minis for all my small hardware projects 2016-05-25T14:39:33 < Sync> but I get cancer routing all that stuff 2016-05-25T14:40:43 < dongs> i guess i shouldnt show my assburgerarray of ws2812s 2016-05-25T14:41:19 < dongs> i didnt even use repeat() from altidumb 2016-05-25T14:41:32 < dongs> just copypasted like 100 of them on a huge schematic sheet 2016-05-25T14:44:17 < Sync> nice 2016-05-25T14:45:59 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/y8gRHpD.png crt search results 2016-05-25T14:56:00 < dongs> ur 2016-05-25T14:57:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-147.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-25T15:18:09 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-147-99-81.range109-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:20:34 < Laurenceb_> sup 2016-05-25T15:21:34 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-05-25T15:23:51 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:23:53 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-25T15:23:53 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:24:19 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:26:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-147.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:31:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:35:42 -!- adhw [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T15:46:29 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/thumb/1463607484602.jpg 2016-05-25T16:16:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Assembly-Line-Controller/ lol fucking homework 2016-05-25T16:22:04 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T16:24:17 < dongs> leothefreelancer posted his toolshed pix 2016-05-25T16:26:02 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/uysIgjw.jpg 2016-05-25T16:26:05 < dongs> pro stuff here guys 2016-05-25T16:26:48 < PeterM> ... 2016-05-25T16:26:49 < dongs> what is that garbage on top pic 2016-05-25T16:26:57 < dongs> some kinda ghettomicroscope? 2016-05-25T16:27:02 < PeterM> a shitty usb microcock 2016-05-25T16:28:58 < dongs> oh yeah its one of those ebay specials 2016-05-25T16:29:00 < dongs> with a focusing wheel 2016-05-25T16:29:07 < dongs> and a circle of white leds 2016-05-25T16:29:08 < dongs> on bottom 2016-05-25T16:29:13 < dongs> i have that garbage somewehre in my pile of shit 2016-05-25T16:30:35 < PeterM> they are worse than useless 2016-05-25T16:30:48 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/fLK9VnO.jpg 2016-05-25T16:30:52 < ReadError> whats going on here? 2016-05-25T16:30:59 < ReadError> some crazy blind vias? 2016-05-25T16:31:09 < dongs> just a covered via yea 2016-05-25T16:31:13 < ReadError> looks nuts 2016-05-25T16:31:18 < PeterM> VIiP 2016-05-25T16:31:18 < dongs> looks like apple trash 2016-05-25T16:31:19 < BrainDamage> tented vias 2016-05-25T16:31:25 < PeterM> *ViP 2016-05-25T16:31:44 < PeterM> and tented vias 2016-05-25T16:31:49 < dongs> whats the material of those caps 2016-05-25T16:31:51 < dongs> its not tantal 2016-05-25T16:31:58 < dongs> as I learened from that PRO MACBOOK REPAIR VIDEO 2016-05-25T16:32:16 < PeterM> it is tant 2016-05-25T16:32:22 < PeterM> its tant poly 2016-05-25T16:32:57 < dongs> hmmkay 2016-05-25T16:33:14 < dongs> so waht garbage is being teardown here? 2016-05-25T16:33:18 < dongs> dont leave us hanging, readcloner 2016-05-25T16:34:03 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/X2RNlbF.jpg 2016-05-25T16:34:07 < ReadError> oh macbook pro 2016-05-25T16:34:28 < Laurenceb_> yay someone wants to publish my papers 2016-05-25T16:34:32 < Laurenceb_> epic win 2016-05-25T16:34:33 < ReadError> things are like works of art almost, hard to imagine the scale of everything, so much shit 2016-05-25T16:34:43 < BrainDamage> is it vixra? 2016-05-25T16:35:05 < Laurenceb_> how to troll journals: submit the carbon fibre homosexuality and glacier rape culture papers 2016-05-25T16:35:26 < Laurenceb_> lol no its arxiv :P 2016-05-25T16:35:30 < Laurenceb_> /troll 2016-05-25T16:35:52 < dongs> um arent those just empty pads for more ram 2016-05-25T16:35:57 < dongs> or more flash or hwatever 2016-05-25T16:36:05 < dongs> so crapple can add extra 2 chips and charge you idiots $200 more 2016-05-25T16:36:29 < Laurenceb_> glaciology inherently reinforces rape culture: drills are used by men to penetrate glacial ice 2016-05-25T16:36:43 < PeterM> ReadError, when you gotta buy a new computer because something breakers they can afford to spend a bunchy more on pcbs 2016-05-25T16:37:52 < ReadError> nah they actually got schematics for these shits 2016-05-25T16:38:01 < ReadError> so if you are really bored you can go through and check everything 2016-05-25T16:38:25 < PeterM> yeah, like 1/10000 people are gonna do that shit 2016-05-25T16:39:11 < dongs> shouldnt you be cloning some eurotrash garbage tehre readstoner 2016-05-25T16:41:46 < ReadError> nah i got some new boards coming today i need to build 2016-05-25T16:41:56 < ReadError> but need to finish some code to test 2016-05-25T16:41:59 < ReadError> i should do that 2016-05-25T16:44:10 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T16:45:30 < ReadError> https://dropfile.to/Wpgp4QN 2016-05-25T16:45:36 < ReadError> neat, didnt know shit like this existed 2016-05-25T16:46:30 < dongs> still donno what garbage PCB cad apple uses 2016-05-25T16:46:36 < ReadError> can you tell what software they used? 2016-05-25T16:46:38 < dongs> those schematics are all that style and theyre awful 2016-05-25T16:46:40 < dongs> no, its shit 2016-05-25T16:47:02 < ReadError> couldnt tell either 2016-05-25T16:48:38 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T16:51:34 -!- metRo_ [c17e50f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.126.80.249] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-25T16:52:11 < dongs> NEED TO COPY FROM AP TABLE WHEN STAN FINISHES 2016-05-25T16:52:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-25T16:53:54 < ReadError> heh see the assembly diagram for foxconn 2016-05-25T16:54:06 < ReadError> on pg2 2016-05-25T16:54:19 < ReadError> looks like they went through and marked shit manually 2016-05-25T16:57:05 < ReadError> damn they have all the boot jumper shit too 2016-05-25T16:59:47 < dongs> fuck 2016-05-25T16:59:56 < dongs> all teh shit i bid on feelancer just gets closed 2016-05-25T16:59:59 < dongs> without even accepting anyone 2016-05-25T17:00:05 < dongs> i wanna see some paki get hired and fail 2016-05-25T17:00:15 < dongs> but none of the shit ever gets into 'accepted' stage lol 2016-05-25T17:00:25 < ReadError> i bet some people do it just to get actual legit people to do it less 2016-05-25T17:00:33 < ReadError> "well this dude says he can do it for X" 2016-05-25T17:00:40 < dongs> you mean like "we got quotes from pakis for xxx, you can do better"? 2016-05-25T17:00:42 < ReadError> yea 2016-05-25T17:00:43 < dongs> yeah possibly but ffuuuck 2016-05-25T17:10:50 < mitrax> when using ADC with DMA for multiple channels conversion what can cause an overrun? the DMA interrupt is never triggered and i end up with the OVR bit set in the ADC_SR register 2016-05-25T17:12:39 < englishman> dongs: macbook repair videos are trending this week 2016-05-25T17:12:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.157] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T17:12:53 < dongs> is that why readstoner watching? 2016-05-25T17:12:57 < dongs> i only clicked that shit you linked. 2016-05-25T17:13:05 < englishman> this one guy in ny is getting like billions of views 2016-05-25T17:13:10 < englishman> on his 700+ macbook repair videos 2016-05-25T17:13:19 < dongs> so its the same guy 2016-05-25T17:13:23 < englishman> yes 2016-05-25T17:13:24 < dongs> ROSS MACBOOK REPAIR 2016-05-25T17:13:26 < dongs> NO HOMO 2016-05-25T17:19:36 < dongs> will apple dmca him for posting screenshots of thier schematics 2016-05-25T17:19:39 < dongs> i would 2016-05-25T17:22:30 < kakimir> they say that using mascara is not homo 2016-05-25T17:22:59 < kakimir> actually someone I know 2016-05-25T17:23:28 < dongs> chatting with avnet again 2016-05-25T17:23:36 < dongs> about my order from february 2016-05-25T17:23:42 < dongs> maybe they'll decide to ship it this month 2016-05-25T17:26:52 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T17:27:14 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-25T17:39:33 < dongs> http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002951918 2016-05-25T17:39:34 < dongs> lol japs 2016-05-25T17:41:08 < kakimir> dongs: do japs have self irony? 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we lack all the nasty disease here 2016-05-25T18:49:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-25T18:49:56 < mitrax> karlp: ah, thanks, fixed the dma issue but i still have overrun problem, on F4 do you remember what the ADC regular sequence register (ADC_SQR1 bits 23:20) should be set to? it says "These bits are written by software to define the total number of conversions in the regular channel conversion sequence", i set the channel numbers for conversion 1 to 6 (6 channels converted at once) so i assume 2016-05-25T18:49:56 < mitrax> this should be set to 6 but the HAL crap doesn't touch those bits 2016-05-25T18:50:07 < kakimir> but brain membraine infection spread by ticks 2016-05-25T18:50:15 < dongs> errr 2016-05-25T18:50:20 < dongs> mitrax: shouldnt stdperiphlib handle all that shit 2016-05-25T18:50:27 < dongs> when you do ADCAddChannel ro wahevbe 2016-05-25T18:51:08 < mitrax> dongs: i'm using the newer ST lib (yeah i know stperiphlib is better but it was supposed to be obsolete when i first got my hand on a STM32) 2016-05-25T18:51:43 < mitrax> dongs: there's a similar function but it seems to be broken 2016-05-25T18:51:54 < karlp> mitrax: if you have a sequence, you'd better the seq len, yes... 2016-05-25T18:54:31 < aandrew> dongs: really. I wonder if they're any good, or can actually be certified for sale in NA 2016-05-25T18:55:14 < dongs> aandrew: no idea, there's EU/USA versions of that thing seems 2016-05-25T18:55:16 < mitrax> karlp: ok ... no wonder ST's code is not working then, the sequence len is never set 2016-05-25T18:55:24 < dongs> anyway, pal is looking into that shit for some rason 2016-05-25T18:55:29 < dongs> I'll keep you twitted up on progress 2016-05-25T18:55:36 < mitrax> half assed piece of crap 2016-05-25T18:55:51 < aandrew> I know that certification with Telit is a fairly involved process with telit in the loop 2016-05-25T18:56:12 < dongs> those SIM800 shits are fairly common wiht tarduino 2016-05-25T18:56:19 < dongs> the lte one is probly ~similar 2016-05-25T18:56:31 < aandrew> I'm not talking hobby 2016-05-25T18:56:33 < aandrew> that's trivial 2016-05-25T18:56:47 < dongs> who the fuck does serious work in here? :) 2016-05-25T18:56:51 < aandrew> if you're trying to actually sell them though as a finished product ther's a lot of regualtion work involved 2016-05-25T18:56:54 < aandrew> lol 2016-05-25T18:57:09 < dongs> http://aravindvs.com/blog/resources/att2fa.jpg retweeting arduino enthusiast driving relays 2016-05-25T18:57:54 < aandrew> lol 2016-05-25T18:58:04 < aandrew> it'll work, I give them that 2016-05-25T18:58:20 < aandrew> the same way that hiring a chauffeur and Bentley will work for taking your ass to the grocery store 2016-05-25T18:58:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T18:59:10 < karlp> are those motor driver ics? 2016-05-25T18:59:43 < dongs> yes 2016-05-25T19:00:27 < aandrew> I mean if those relays are latching relays which need ot be driven both ways that'll work too 2016-05-25T19:00:27 < dongs> i guess he used it cuz it comes in DIP 2016-05-25T19:00:36 < aandrew> but yeah that's the most likely reason 2016-05-25T19:00:42 < aandrew> transistors got him skeered 2016-05-25T19:00:44 < karlp> or they needed more hold current or something 2016-05-25T19:00:46 < dongs> http://aravindvs.com/blog/resources/hw.jpg 2016-05-25T19:01:13 < karlp> we were looking at some big relays for switching 60A/230v and they had non-trivial amounts of current to keep them in any state. 2016-05-25T19:01:20 < aandrew> I ran across a neat circuit that allwed a big whack of current intiially to activate the solenoid, then fell back to a much more reasonable holding current 2016-05-25T19:01:30 < kakimir> do not use L293D 2016-05-25T19:01:37 < kakimir> simply leave it alone 2016-05-25T19:01:45 < kakimir> and have real chips 2016-05-25T19:01:47 < dongs> karlp: yea, the 200A relay i pulled out of Nissan Leaf pack was drwaing like 600mA @ 12V to keep closed 2016-05-25T19:02:19 < dongs> and it was normally open 2016-05-25T19:02:28 < dongs> so that's quite a waste of electricity 2016-05-25T19:02:32 < karlp> tell me abotu it! 2016-05-25T19:02:43 < karlp> we were more concerned with just having to buy more bits just to drive the relay. 2016-05-25T19:05:39 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-179-145.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-25T19:07:03 < aandrew> be reasonable... 600mA at 12V is a little over 6W. a 6W load on that electrical system is noise. 2016-05-25T19:09:34 < karlp> noise can be reduced. 2016-05-25T19:09:43 < karlp> a few years ago a power supply that uses 5W was "fine" 2016-05-25T19:09:52 < kakimir> I like that mentality 2016-05-25T19:09:52 < karlp> taht used 5W quiescent 2016-05-25T19:09:59 < aandrew> everything can be improved 2016-05-25T19:10:13 < kakimir> most of people go with first solution that works 2016-05-25T19:10:13 < aandrew> and you could use something that reduced current consumtpion to the holding current of that contactor 2016-05-25T19:10:22 < aandrew> but there might be good mechanical reasons for holding it "hard" like that 2016-05-25T19:10:24 < karlp> right, like that h-bridge driver ;) 2016-05-25T19:10:34 < aandrew> you dont' want to go over a bump and have the contacts open even a little 2016-05-25T19:11:06 < aandrew> we had similar things with the vacuum-bottle contactors we used for medium voltage starters (inline and bypass contactors) 2016-05-25T19:11:18 < aandrew> they drew a fair amount of power but you didn't want those to open prematurely 2016-05-25T19:11:48 < aandrew> disconnecting the supply of a 22000HP motor under load would be ... bad 2016-05-25T19:15:10 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-25T19:27:09 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-25T19:37:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T19:54:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-25T20:00:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T20:07:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T20:11:53 -!- 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create fixed point value "form" for my pid parameters for uart protocol 2016-05-25T21:54:45 < kakimir> so I wonder how many decimals you ever need in practical applications 2016-05-25T21:55:15 < kakimir> anyone played a lot with pids? 2016-05-25T21:57:53 < kakimir> maybe I just create floating format for it? 2016-05-25T21:57:56 < kakimir> ye 2016-05-25T21:58:46 < kakimir> I just wonder how hugelly inefficient float/double based pid controller actually is on cortex m3 2016-05-25T22:03:26 < Sync> if it is faster than your sampling speed you are golden 2016-05-25T22:05:51 < kakimir> I rather deal with performance now even I don't have to 2016-05-25T22:05:56 < kakimir> than later 2016-05-25T22:06:51 < Sync> just use floats 2016-05-25T22:07:01 < Sync> and upgrade your mcu if you hit performance issues 2016-05-25T22:08:14 < kakimir> I think there could be like a solution that involves using 64bit integers and dividing by bitshifting 2016-05-25T22:09:14 < kakimir> I want to go small 2016-05-25T22:09:22 < kakimir> and less 2016-05-25T22:09:57 < kakimir> if not then just upgrade to some platform that runs linux out of box 2016-05-25T22:12:00 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-21b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T22:18:20 < Lux> kakimir: depends on what loop times you want to run regarding floats 2016-05-25T22:19:59 < Lux> if it's <1khz floats are fine even on an m3 2016-05-25T22:21:15 < Lux> iirc even the whole quadcopter stuff from baseflight took <1ms an f103 even with quite a few float calculations 2016-05-25T22:22:05 < kakimir> why the hell you would use floats in such application? 2016-05-25T22:23:30 < upgrdman> is greek Psi pronounced like sea? 2016-05-25T22:23:42 < fest> kakimir: ardupilot/px4 do a crapton of floating point operations at 400Hz (that's on F4, though I'm not sure the code compiles with DSP instructions) and there's around 80% spare cpu capacity 2016-05-25T22:24:45 -!- severus 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or like pih sea 2016-05-25T22:29:59 < kakimir> 50hz is like pretty poor 2016-05-25T22:30:34 < englishman> https://www.amazon.ca/Apollo-Guidance-Computer-Architecture-Operation/dp/1441908765 2016-05-25T22:30:38 < englishman> guess i can find out for myself 2016-05-25T22:31:02 < kakimir> did they use fixed point? 2016-05-25T22:31:06 < Lux> http://libgen.io/search.php?req=The+Apollo+Guidance+Computer%3A+Architecture+and+Operation&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def 2016-05-25T22:31:18 < englishman> libgen :) 2016-05-25T22:31:44 < Lux> is that stuff still blocked in the us ? 2016-05-25T22:32:47 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: err, sorry, not Psee, Pseye, P not silent 2016-05-25T22:36:48 < englishman> hm fractional notation 2016-05-25T22:49:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-25T22:52:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-25T22:58:54 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/wCNUXi.jpg 2016-05-25T22:59:00 < ReadError> wtf is driver enable 2016-05-25T22:59:09 < ReadError> searching the pdf comes up with nothing 2016-05-25T22:59:54 < ReadError> hmm something for rs485 2016-05-25T23:00:31 < ReadError> ahh external transceiver enable 2016-05-25T23:03:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.129.24.155] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T23:06:11 < Rob235> hmm 2016-05-25T23:08:37 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-25T23:14:39 < Ecco> Hey 2016-05-25T23:15:01 < Ecco> When soldering, should I really care about ESD? 2016-05-25T23:15:18 < Ecco> If yes, then should I really invest in antistatic gear? 2016-05-25T23:16:16 < Sync> yes 2016-05-25T23:16:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.129.24.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-25T23:17:28 < Ecco> What would you recommend? 2016-05-25T23:18:54 < Sync> idk, I have some 3M mats and those conductive strechy arm bands 2016-05-25T23:19:08 < Ecco> Are those really necessary? 2016-05-25T23:19:28 < Sync> the answer depends 2016-05-25T23:19:33 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-05-25T23:21:54 < BrainDamage> how many devices are you planning to solder, how many are you willing to fix from premature failure from esd damage, and how sensitive are the parts 2016-05-25T23:22:01 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-25T23:22:09 < Ecco> Well the most senstive part is going to be an STM32 2016-05-25T23:22:24 < Ecco> and I won't solder many 2016-05-25T23:22:43 < BrainDamage> you can fry 2n7000 by just touching them wearing a sweater for examle 2016-05-25T23:22:51 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-25T23:23:02 < Sync> yeah it is suprisingly easy 2016-05-25T23:23:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T23:23:07 < Ecco> So are there some quick "tips" about stupid stuff I should avoid? 2016-05-25T23:23:24 < Ecco> Without investing in specific gear, are there some rookie mistakes I should know about and avoid? 2016-05-25T23:24:08 < BrainDamage> yes, all tutorials that talk about grounding to protective earth are bullshit, it doesn't matter what your potential towards PE is, all you care is your potential towards the part under work 2016-05-25T23:24:18 < BrainDamage> if you get a shock if you touch your pc case it doesn't matter 2016-05-25T23:24:25 < Ecco> makes sense 2016-05-25T23:24:53 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T23:25:13 < Ecco> ok, so I shouldn't bother grounding myself 2016-05-25T23:25:13 < Sync> well, BrainDamage it is not bullshit imho, it is a common reference 2016-05-25T23:25:16 < Ecco> anything else? 2016-05-25T23:25:20 < Sync> that should be the same everywhere in the workspace 2016-05-25T23:25:35 < BrainDamage> Sync: sure, but the important part is "common reference" 2016-05-25T23:25:40 < Sync> yes 2016-05-25T23:28:24 < Lux> you could just set up a humidifier and be safe from esd 2016-05-25T23:28:55 < Lux> i've seen them do that in production lines 2016-05-25T23:28:56 < Sync> or use alpha emitters 2016-05-25T23:29:11 < Sync> you are not safe from esd even with higher humidity 2016-05-25T23:29:38 < Lux> ya also depends on the floor material etc 2016-05-25T23:29:44 < Lux> but the humidity is a big factor 2016-05-25T23:32:19 < Lux> it definetly won't help if you have some synthetic flooring paired with slippers 2016-05-25T23:32:52 < Lux> killed two mosfets the other day just taking a step on that floor :/ 2016-05-25T23:33:27 < Lux> http://www.esdsystems.com/whitepapers/wp_humidity.html 2016-05-25T23:34:31 < Steffanx> the internet is not to be trusted 2016-05-25T23:38:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-21b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-25T23:44:38 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jopPkFqaoDM internet at it's best 2016-05-25T23:49:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-25T23:53:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-25T23:56:27 -!- Rob235 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-25T23:56:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-25T23:57:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.99.171] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Thu May 26 2016 2016-05-26T00:00:49 < Laurenceb_> moonman 2016-05-26T00:04:22 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.78.79] has quit [Quit: Until we meet again...!] 2016-05-26T00:10:38 < Laurenceb_> wow interesting fest 2016-05-26T00:10:50 < Laurenceb_> didnt know ardupilot had proper imu code now 2016-05-26T00:10:58 < Laurenceb_> how do they run that on avr?! 2016-05-26T00:12:12 < kakimir> they propably stack up some stm32 module to it 2016-05-26T00:17:20 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T00:20:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-26T00:21:25 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-26T00:29:25 < PeterM> [04:34] <englishman> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/meet-the-pilot-smart-earpiece-language-translator--2#/ voice recognition can barely get coherent english correct undear near ideal circumstances, what kinda fuckin magic do they wanna do here? 2016-05-26T00:29:42 < karlp> upload to google, pause, play back... 2016-05-26T00:29:47 < karlp> gonna be amaaze 2016-05-26T00:30:55 < PeterM> ughk and then there is the amazing translation software that is jsut as good as the voice recognition 2016-05-26T00:32:06 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6D1YI-41ao 2016-05-26T00:43:45 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-26T00:45:18 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-161-85.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T00:47:00 < englishman> PeterM: scamming millionz and buying a fucking boat, thats what they wanna do 2016-05-26T00:48:58 < PeterM> i doubt it 2016-05-26T00:49:14 < PeterM> i think 99% of dumbshit on dickstart is jsut dumbshit 2016-05-26T00:49:42 < PeterM> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. 2016-05-26T00:50:28 < englishman> dono 2016-05-26T00:50:35 < englishman> plenty of scamemrs out there 2016-05-26T00:50:52 < englishman> this one might be stupidity tho. 2016-05-26T00:52:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:ed40:14a0:5ef1:ec09] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-26T00:54:32 < kakimir> why scammin? 2016-05-26T01:18:05 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-05-26T01:18:41 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T01:58:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T02:08:22 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-26T02:09:06 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T02:11:30 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-26T02:20:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T02:32:44 < Laurenceb_> mantrain 2016-05-26T02:34:30 < Laurenceb_> listening to moonman 2016-05-26T02:35:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbBix10r1kY 2016-05-26T02:40:23 < Laurenceb_> rain in aus 2016-05-26T02:40:24 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-26T02:43:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-26T02:44:14 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb_: I need to learn kikcad 2016-05-26T02:44:44 < BrainDamage> sorry, should've made clearer it's a quote 2016-05-26T02:44:49 < BrainDamage> >Laurenceb_: I need to learn kikcad 2016-05-26T02:44:52 < BrainDamage> better 2016-05-26T02:49:19 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-26T02:49:24 < Laurenceb_> muh desktop is pinging 2016-05-26T02:50:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah I was holding off until (if) it became usable 2016-05-26T02:50:50 < BrainDamage> the workflow of going trought 3 programs is odd 2016-05-26T02:50:58 < BrainDamage> and the builtin libs are pretty trash 2016-05-26T02:53:05 < Laurenceb_> yeah I got to the point of trying to layout 2016-05-26T02:53:13 < Laurenceb_> they weird mouse combos 2016-05-26T02:53:16 < Laurenceb_> and I raged 2016-05-26T02:53:37 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-26T02:54:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T02:54:37 < BrainDamage> not having by default rubberband drag triggers me 2016-05-26T02:56:14 < Laurenceb_> the CERN improvements look good 2016-05-26T03:09:59 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-26T03:10:07 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T03:32:46 < dongs> sup serial inovators 2016-05-26T03:38:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-26T03:41:42 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-26T03:45:53 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otscokvebmejbscp] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-26T03:48:02 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yiipgjzkvnersczy] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T03:57:32 < Laurenceb_> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2001/24/part/6/crossheading/nuclear-weapons/enacted 2016-05-26T03:57:36 < Laurenceb_> fucking killjoys 2016-05-26T03:57:46 < Laurenceb_> (1)A person who— 2016-05-26T03:57:46 < Laurenceb_> (a)knowingly causes a nuclear weapon explosion; 2016-05-26T04:05:53 < Thorn> Nothing in section 47 applies (b) to an act done in the course of an armed conflict. 2016-05-26T04:05:58 < Thorn> so you should be ok 2016-05-26T04:07:23 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspsmdfybbckcsp] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T04:09:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T04:11:33 < upgrdman> what the name for those spray bottles (not aerosol) for cleaning pcbs? its like isopropanol + brush tip so you can gently scrub flux off of shit. 2016-05-26T04:11:59 < dongs> i duno man i just have a jar of shit and a brush 2016-05-26T04:12:07 < dongs> why do 'muricans always wanna overcomplicate shit 2016-05-26T04:12:45 < dongs> http://www.electronics-lab.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/obr1662_1-e1423826671585.jpg 2016-05-26T04:12:48 < dongs> this?? 2016-05-26T04:13:19 < dongs> http://www.gmelectronic.com/spray-cleaning-brush-kontakt-pcc-200ml-p744-025 2016-05-26T04:13:43 < dongs> ahahhaah picture in sample is a fucking 16bit ISA card 2016-05-26T04:13:48 < dongs> yeah you gotta clean that shit 2016-05-26T04:17:56 < Laurenceb_> Thorn: yeah but it could be a leisure activity 2016-05-26T04:18:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T04:22:24 < Thorn> it would start a war regardless 2016-05-26T04:22:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T04:28:04 < upgrdman> dongs, ya that but not aerosol. just a bottle with a handle, like a windex bottle 2016-05-26T04:28:17 < upgrdman> the aerosol shit gets used up was too quick 2016-05-26T04:28:36 < upgrdman> it shits out tons, when you often just little a little + some burshing + a little more 2016-05-26T04:30:50 < upgrdman> i was something like this, but with a brush on the nozzle so you can clean one-handed http://www.amazon.com/Techspray-Ready---Use-Cleaner-1610-PT/dp/B003X317EE/ref=sr_1_31_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1464226185&sr=8-31&keywords=isopropyl+spray 2016-05-26T04:31:21 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-26T04:33:00 < upgrdman> shit something like this but less gay and stiffer http://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Accessories-Silicone-Barbecue-barbacoa/dp/B01DF06OIS/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1464226337&sr=8-31&keywords=spray+bottle+brush 2016-05-26T04:39:40 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZsOks-3aDU 2016-05-26T04:39:43 < dongs> i need to get a china clone of those 2016-05-26T04:39:51 < dongs> any ideas what ti call it? 2016-05-26T04:40:12 < dongs> all the fucking prices on theire site is CALL FOR PRICING 2016-05-26T04:40:18 < dongs> i'd rather call CHINA 2016-05-26T04:40:30 < dongs> if im gonna call somewehre 2016-05-26T04:40:56 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgMLp6TZgQY or this 2016-05-26T04:50:19 < upgrdman> dongs, http://imgur.com/a/5MIK9 2016-05-26T04:50:54 < englishman> lol 2016-05-26T04:53:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:152d:9a89:111d:b070] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T04:56:26 < dongs> wow, this is fuckign crazy 2016-05-26T04:56:39 < dongs> yesterday i aliexpress'd for some fingerprint sensors 2016-05-26T04:56:46 < dongs> to prove to that idiot paki from feelancer 2016-05-26T04:56:56 < dongs> that they have much higher resolution/dpi than touchscreen right 2016-05-26T04:57:00 < dongs> just now i got email from some chinks 2016-05-26T04:57:28 < dongs> this is bla bla from shitzen biometrics glad to know youre looking for fpc1020 sensor module we're manufacturer with bla blah clone of it for cheaper bla blah 2016-05-26T04:57:31 < dongs> wtf 2016-05-26T04:57:55 < dongs> pretty sure i dont e ven have alixpress account 2016-05-26T04:58:50 < englishman> thats happened a couple times now 2016-05-26T04:59:28 < englishman> some crafty alibaba/aliexpress cookie something something 2016-05-26T04:59:44 < dongs> dma 2016-05-26T04:59:46 < dongs> er 2016-05-26T04:59:55 < dongs> englishman: really? you got something similar? 2016-05-26T05:00:00 < englishman> yes 2016-05-26T05:00:18 < dongs> crazy stuff 2016-05-26T05:00:29 < englishman> only browsing alishit with script/cookie blockers now 2016-05-26T05:00:40 < englishman> which speeds load time anyway 2016-05-26T05:00:50 < dongs> and allows to rightclick to copy images amirite 2016-05-26T05:00:53 < englishman> yes 2016-05-26T05:00:56 < englishman> and copy text 2016-05-26T05:02:17 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Construir-prototipo/ lol 2016-05-26T05:13:52 < dongs> 6 HD cameras tarnsmitting over bluetooth 2016-05-26T05:14:01 < dongs> hurry up and get paid crt 2016-05-26T05:14:48 < dongs> englishman: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/garbage/2046612550.html 2016-05-26T05:15:37 < englishman> ? 2016-05-26T05:16:20 < englishman> I wanted anti static not extra static 2016-05-26T05:16:25 < dongs> haha 2016-05-26T05:16:35 < upgrdman> interesting http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/543048/26931843/1464016046717/A2_SP_2016.pdf?token=evgMlJZ3cmsOE%2BhF2Dne1aGGiD8%3D 2016-05-26T05:16:59 < dongs> quingdong 2016-05-26T05:17:00 < englishman> Ffff PDF link on mobile 2016-05-26T05:18:21 < dongs> upgrdman: tl;dr what is that shit 2016-05-26T05:19:20 < upgrdman> dongs, how to hide backdoors in hardware. ~impossible to detect 2016-05-26T05:19:30 < upgrdman> silicon level 2016-05-26T05:26:21 < Laurenceb_> how would that possibly work 2016-05-26T05:27:59 < Laurenceb_> solder 3g modem here 2016-05-26T05:28:36 < Laurenceb_> nsa finally makes i2c behave 2016-05-26T05:33:42 < upgrdman> dongs, http://i.imgur.com/Eu2YVZi.gifv 2016-05-26T05:39:29 < englishman> If I wasn’t using an Arduino, what would I use? Probably nothing. Because the job wouldn’t exist. 2016-05-26T05:44:56 -!- kafs [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T05:46:38 < upgrdman> dongs, http://i.imgur.com/kdKXBEb.gifv 2016-05-26T05:48:24 < Rob235> 6 pages done... 19 to go 2016-05-26T05:53:42 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-26T06:00:41 < PeterM> [09:41] <crt> here's hoping brother peter's tractor can float 2016-05-26T06:00:48 < PeterM> nah doesnt float 2016-05-26T06:01:03 < PeterM> hence early weekend 2016-05-26T06:03:29 < talsit> kinda cool: http://imgur.com/teEdB0N 2016-05-26T06:05:10 < dongs> http://www.dinexltd.com/webimages/hyoumenjissou/consummables/splicing/siemens-splice-tool.jpg 2016-05-26T06:07:10 < PeterM> talsit that is a perfect use of words "kinda cool" 2016-05-26T06:07:34 < PeterM> dongs yes, how much do they want? 2016-05-26T06:07:52 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WgwpwFq2qA peterm this weekend 2016-05-26T06:08:55 < dongs> PeterM: chiangirl is on it 2016-05-26T06:14:04 -!- kafs [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-26T06:14:07 < PeterM> dongs lol not quite, more mud than ice 2016-05-26T06:15:20 < PeterM> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/78/e4/d078e43b35e4e03b3cec31938a8d62db.jpg this kidna thing 2016-05-26T06:15:26 < dongs> nice 2016-05-26T06:15:35 < dongs> not going very far 2016-05-26T06:15:43 < PeterM> when you're that deep allyou can do is wait 2016-05-26T06:19:58 < dongs> old 2016-05-26T06:20:07 < dongs> 10:50 < upgrdman> dongs, http://imgur.com/a/5MIK9 2016-05-26T06:20:07 < dongs> 12:19 < crt> http://imgur.com/a/5MIK9 2016-05-26T06:21:34 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-26T06:21:43 < PeterM> https://twitter.com/CollierMiller1/status/735606677295271936 2016-05-26T06:22:20 < PeterM> sweet weekend off work AND sick sale at the industrial supply store 2016-05-26T06:26:44 < dongs> o shit 2016-05-26T06:26:47 < dongs> did you know fedex bought TNT 2016-05-26T06:26:59 < dongs> they just sent me jappu spam about the merger 2016-05-26T06:28:25 < dongs> 4.8million 2016-05-26T06:28:27 < dongs> er billion 2016-05-26T06:28:35 < dongs> almost as much as twitter has lost in 5 years 2016-05-26T06:28:44 < dongs> did you know? Twitter is losing one million $ per day 2016-05-26T06:29:15 < dongs> Despite its huge brand awareness and the fact it has been in business for a decade, Twitter is still nowhere near profitable. The company has lost $2bn in the past five years. 2016-05-26T06:29:23 < dongs> 2 bil/5 years = 1 mil/day 2016-05-26T06:29:36 < dongs> what the fuck do they do with that money i wonder 2016-05-26T06:47:49 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@37.235.63.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-26T06:48:21 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host109-147-99-81.range109-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-26T06:48:26 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@37.235.63.165] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T07:18:20 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T07:21:51 < dongs> Nick Mair 2016-05-26T07:21:52 < dongs> Business Development Manager at Fen Technology 2016-05-26T07:21:52 < dongs> I've worked with Ivan and he is an extremely talented development engineer and innovator across a broad range of technologies. 2016-05-26T07:22:06 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-26T07:22:12 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-26T08:06:56 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-26T08:09:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T08:10:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9ab8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T08:16:22 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/5hejLJc.jpg 2016-05-26T08:18:20 < dongs> looks pro 2016-05-26T08:27:59 < dongs> PeterM: 46bux for splice tool, 5 bux for a bag of 4000 copper splice joints, and like 2-3 bux for a bag of 500/250 splice tapes 2016-05-26T08:28:16 * dongs buying 2016-05-26T08:30:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9ab8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T08:31:07 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T08:38:09 -!- afad [b4ff214e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.255.33.78] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T08:38:24 < afad> what are some string libraries to use on stm32? 2016-05-26T08:39:01 < afad> does stm32 have something like String object with lots of routines to manipulate string? 2016-05-26T08:39:10 < dongs> wot 2016-05-26T08:39:21 < dongs> no, STM32 doesn't have hardware string processing 2016-05-26T08:40:36 < afad> ohsix, arduino has easy-to-use string routines for not so savvy people like me. in stm32, it is just <string.h>? 2016-05-26T08:41:42 < afad> i'm using keil. Are there easy to use string libraries for keil on stm32? 2016-05-26T08:44:11 < dongs> ha i see, ohsix is back to his "bring a clone in and chat to himself then get thanked" mode 2016-05-26T08:44:28 < dongs> must be bored 2016-05-26T08:44:38 < jpa-> afad: you can use most C and C++ string libraries 2016-05-26T08:44:55 < jpa-> for example http://bstring.sourceforge.net/ 2016-05-26T08:46:20 < dongs> er 2016-05-26T08:46:24 < dongs> deos that work on embedddeed 2016-05-26T08:46:28 < dongs> it sounds like its bloated as fuck 2016-05-26T08:46:35 < dongs> portable (known to work with gcc/g++, MSVC++, Intel C++, WATCOM C/C++, Turbo C, Borland C++, IBM's native CC compiler on Windows, Linux and Mac OS X), 2016-05-26T08:46:39 < dongs> this is a huge red flag 2016-05-26T08:46:43 < dongs> "portable" 2016-05-26T08:48:40 < jpa-> well, it mallocs all the things 2016-05-26T08:48:54 < dongs> strcpy (p = malloc (13 * sizeof (char)), "Hello,"); 2016-05-26T08:48:55 < dongs> strcat (p, " World"); 2016-05-26T08:48:56 < dongs> what 2016-05-26T08:48:56 < dongs> the 2016-05-26T08:48:57 < dongs> fuck 2016-05-26T08:50:40 < afad> Can http://bstring.sourceforge.net/ be used on stm32? 2016-05-26T08:50:43 < emeb_mac> kinda makes you want to take up functional programming 2016-05-26T08:51:08 < dongs> anything can be used on stm32 given unlimited time 2016-05-26T08:51:12 < dongs> and unlimited number of monkeys bashing keys 2016-05-26T08:51:47 < emeb_mac> and goodness knows there's a ready supply of monkeys banging on keys out on the internet 2016-05-26T08:51:58 < emeb_mac> ohsix: yeah saw that - inspired my comment 2016-05-26T08:57:15 -!- Abhishek__ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whowxaxclfxgguzu] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T08:59:35 -!- Abhishek__ is now known as Abhishek_ 2016-05-26T09:28:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T09:30:20 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T09:34:55 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-26T09:47:51 -!- afad [b4ff214e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.255.33.78] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-26T09:49:46 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T10:16:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-26T10:22:24 < dongs> PeterM: beepster. you got any recommended lipo protection circuit/pcm thingy from chinaspecial? 2016-05-26T10:22:57 < dongs> for those thin tab batts I got pics of a while ago 2016-05-26T10:23:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-26T10:33:04 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T10:35:29 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@37.235.63.165] has quit [Quit: hop] 2016-05-26T10:38:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:152d:9a89:111d:b070] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-26T10:42:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.28] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T10:51:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-26T10:53:54 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T11:01:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T11:13:05 < PeterM> what kinda currents? DW01A + 8205A (dual n mos) are good for 3~A 2016-05-26T11:13:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T11:15:08 < PeterM> remember the OVP and UVP are only as an "oh shit", not as a "this is how i turn my device off and regulate my charger" thing 2016-05-26T11:35:52 < dongs> i think stoner needs like 6A 2016-05-26T11:38:02 < dongs> its for high current subohming 2016-05-26T11:39:26 < PeterM> just use bigger fets 2016-05-26T11:39:43 < dongs> have you ever had to pass this trash through certification? 2016-05-26T11:40:38 < dongs> and DW01A is the controller IC? 2016-05-26T11:41:00 < PeterM> yes and no, ie, msot of the certifications ive put it through dont care about battery protection etc 2016-05-26T11:41:04 < dongs> ya found 2016-05-26T11:41:04 < PeterM> and yes 2016-05-26T11:41:06 < dongs> hmm 2016-05-26T11:41:10 < dongs> the trash here does 2016-05-26T11:41:36 < dongs> infact lipos cant even land without being with a certified pcm attached, but there's a loophole that you can ship them "for attaching pcm" direct to factory 2016-05-26T11:41:56 < PeterM> heh... 2016-05-26T11:42:45 < PeterM> there are no certifications required here, everythign jsut has to go by surface mail 2016-05-26T11:42:47 < dongs> the problem with certification is that if I just use some china thing and it fails I cant easily fix it 2016-05-26T11:43:00 < dongs> so.. need to make ow pcb 2016-05-26T11:43:01 < dongs> own 2016-05-26T11:43:08 < dongs> aids 2016-05-26T11:43:19 < PeterM> well,m the DW01A is chinagoto controller and the 8205A are china goto fets for the controller 2016-05-26T11:43:24 < dongs> rite 2016-05-26T11:43:44 < PeterM> i bet if you asked chinagirl shed be like "oh yeahg, we sell millions 2016-05-26T11:43:52 < dongs> probl;y 2016-05-26T11:44:12 < dongs> The smallest yet exquisite game controller with Selfie shutter function has won many people's hearts over, especially ladies' 2016-05-26T11:44:44 < dongs> how the fuck d o I attach the tabs 2016-05-26T11:44:46 < dongs> spotwelding or osmething? 2016-05-26T11:45:27 < PeterM> depends on type of tabs - if they're nickle tabs you can jsut sodler straight to em 2016-05-26T11:45:40 < PeterM> pay a paki $1 an hour 2016-05-26T11:45:46 < dongs> hm the shit looks like it has some plate on top of pcb 2016-05-26T11:45:49 < dongs> and shit is spotwelded on ti 2016-05-26T11:51:48 < dongs> http://www.batterysupports.com/1m-8-x-015t-pure-ni-plate-nickel-battery-welding-strip-tape-p-321.html 2016-05-26T11:51:52 < dongs> something liek this but shit I can dicknplace on a pad 2016-05-26T11:51:58 < dongs> on pcm board 2016-05-26T11:53:42 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspsmdfybbckcsp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-26T11:55:33 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T11:55:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T11:56:43 < PeterM> you pouch cells either have nickel tabs ro aluminium tabs, if they're aluminium (you cna check by trying to solder to them, if its alu it wont stick) you will need to spotweld some nickel strips to it, if they are nickel oyu can solder the m straight to the pcm boar 2016-05-26T11:57:05 < dongs> soldering is not gonna happen for 1k+ units, too much work even for a paki 2016-05-26T11:57:19 < dongs> idea is to get nickel? or something plate SMT'd on the board and spotweld to it 2016-05-26T11:57:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-26T11:57:32 < dongs> like there' sa thin plate of shit on these sample boards weve got 2016-05-26T11:57:37 < dongs> and stuff is spotwelded to it 2016-05-26T11:57:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T11:58:16 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/susTFyS.jpg 2016-05-26T11:58:31 < PeterM> yeah, nickle is sodlerable and doesnt fatigue like aluminium does 2016-05-26T11:58:40 < dongs> you think tehy just stamped them from a reel of that shit like I linked? 2016-05-26T11:58:54 < PeterM> probably 2016-05-26T12:00:49 < dongs> kk 2016-05-26T12:16:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T12:19:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-26T12:19:29 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T12:22:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T12:29:05 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whowxaxclfxgguzu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-26T12:29:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T12:49:54 < dongs> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3609314/trolling.html haha quality dailyfail reporting 2016-05-26T12:50:42 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.79.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T13:18:50 < karlp> My name is Linh. Now, I am developing library of mrf24j40 for zigbee 2016-05-26T13:18:50 < karlp> network, but I have a few problem about routing network. Can you support 2016-05-26T13:18:51 < karlp> for me to develop this library. please contact to me as soon as imposible. 2016-05-26T13:18:59 < karlp> this is what you get for putting code on the internet. 2016-05-26T13:19:11 < karlp> Thank you relied my question. 2016-05-26T13:19:12 < karlp> but I don't know what kind of program to read this file .asc, 2016-05-26T13:19:23 -!- tkoskine [~tkoskine@37.235.63.165] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T13:19:24 < karlp> I mean is I well develop software, and I don't develop hardware 2016-05-26T13:19:37 < karlp> "I know you have source code in website Github." 2016-05-26T13:30:47 < dongs> lol 2016-05-26T13:33:41 < jpa-> karlp: he wants to buy karlnet codes? 2016-05-26T13:34:29 < jpa-> "As soon as impossible" i'll steal that 2016-05-26T13:48:17 < Steffanx> Haha. 2016-05-26T13:50:03 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ToUlVvK.jpg 2016-05-26T13:50:55 < PeterM> $5 says its on your bookshelf 2016-05-26T13:58:32 < kakimir> totally written by dongs relative 2016-05-26T14:15:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-26T14:16:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T14:27:04 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T14:34:09 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-26T14:45:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-26T14:45:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T14:48:36 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T14:51:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T15:06:49 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T15:18:45 < jadew> I need a suggestion, I got a bench meter from ebay, looks new except the display window is in a very poor state 2016-05-26T15:18:54 < jadew> it wasn't visible in the photos and the guy didn't mention it 2016-05-26T15:19:48 < jadew> should I leave negative/neutral feedback or not? 2016-05-26T15:20:12 < Fleck> you should talk to seller first 2016-05-26T15:20:48 < jadew> and tell him what? 2016-05-26T15:21:24 < Fleck> that! 2016-05-26T15:21:31 < jpa-> yeah 2016-05-26T15:21:36 < jpa-> he might give discount 2016-05-26T15:22:06 < dongs> discunt 2016-05-26T15:23:15 < PeterM> jadew, what do yu mean "very poor state" 2016-05-26T15:23:20 < dongs> i gotta do LPC1769 I2C 2016-05-26T15:23:35 < PeterM> there are quite a few plastic polishing compounds that may alleviate the issues 2016-05-26T15:23:45 < jadew> PeterM, it has a long scratch + lots of smaller ones like someone was banging on it with a screwdriver for months 2016-05-26T15:23:51 < jadew> it's basically matte 2016-05-26T15:24:06 < jadew> I think it's glass 2016-05-26T15:24:15 < jadew> not sure tho 2016-05-26T15:24:20 < jadew> let me take a photo 2016-05-26T15:24:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-26T15:24:34 < Fleck> jadew: remove protection film? :P 2016-05-26T15:24:48 < jadew> haha, that would have been great 2016-05-26T15:26:27 < Fleck> right? :) 2016-05-26T15:27:27 < PeterM> google "headlight polishing kit" jadew it might be useful if the bench meter is fairly high $$$ 2016-05-26T15:27:58 < jadew> PeterM, I will 2016-05-26T15:28:08 < jadew> thanks 2016-05-26T15:29:06 < jpa-> if it is acrylic it is very easy to polish, may just look a bit warpy when viewed from the side 2016-05-26T15:29:13 < jpa-> polycarbonate is more annoying to polish 2016-05-26T15:30:02 < Tectu> "warpy" :D 2016-05-26T15:30:35 * jpa- jabs Tectu 2016-05-26T15:30:51 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/meter/20160526_152610.jpg 2016-05-26T15:30:57 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/meter/20160526_152628.jpg 2016-05-26T15:31:14 < jadew> and yes, it's clean 2016-05-26T15:31:21 < Tectu> how the fuck does something like that happen? 2016-05-26T15:31:36 < jadew> I have no idea... the rest of the meter is in mint condition 2016-05-26T15:31:46 < jpa-> usually by having the device in school lab for 5 minutes 2016-05-26T15:31:52 < Fleck> ;p 2016-05-26T15:31:55 < Tectu> lol 2016-05-26T15:32:02 < jadew> jpa-, yeah, that's what I assumed too 2016-05-26T15:32:03 < karlp> what does "transpile" mean? 2016-05-26T15:32:23 < karlp> is that some wank for compiling, but we don't want to say compile because that sounds slow and "old fashioned" or something? 2016-05-26T15:32:43 < PeterM> transpile sounds SJW fucked 2016-05-26T15:33:22 < PeterM> scratches could coem from being in a carry case wiht somegrit in the bottom or something 2016-05-26T15:33:47 < Tectu> the internet is clueless: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=transpile 2016-05-26T15:34:32 < jadew> PeterM, he had quite a few to sell, I think they were in some sort of lab 2016-05-26T15:35:12 < PeterM> mmhm 2016-05-26T15:35:13 < karlp> someone at work was talking about transpiling some js shitstorm the other day, and now this juniper-lang shits talks about being "transpiled" to arduion c++ 2016-05-26T15:35:43 < jadew> lol 2016-05-26T15:35:43 < BrainDamage> transpired 2016-05-26T15:35:44 < Tectu> karlp, I was wondering if that comes from juniper but decided not to ask because otherwise people would know that I read arduino news 2016-05-26T15:35:55 < karlp> wikipedo claims itðs source-to-source translation 2016-05-26T15:36:06 < karlp> Tectu: I read it because it was postd here 2016-05-26T15:36:45 < jpa-> here the js-people say they are "babeling" their code 2016-05-26T15:36:52 < karlp> ah, typescript is "transpiled" too. 2016-05-26T15:36:56 < Tectu> karlp, are you telling me that somebody in here wasn't talking about STM32??? 2016-05-26T15:37:09 < karlp> ie, javascript with less tooling support and less syntax => "more freedom to express yourself!" 2016-05-26T15:37:20 < karlp> and it was a work person dicking with typescript 2016-05-26T15:38:19 < BrainDamage> karlp: transpiler is sort of a bogus term tought, some use it for compilation where the target language is at the same abstraction level and reserve compilation where the target is a lower level language 2016-05-26T15:38:35 < BrainDamage> just use compiler and tell them to fuck off 2016-05-26T15:38:40 < karlp> that's kinda how I felt :) 2016-05-26T15:39:00 < karlp> "do I need to run some other tool to do anything useful with this?" 2016-05-26T15:39:09 < jadew> transourceal 2016-05-26T15:56:30 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.79.249] has quit [Quit: Until we meet again...!] 2016-05-26T15:57:51 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T16:00:23 < jpa-> Steffanx: i upset Tectu by telling the truth, you may have to give him some extra sweetness tonight 2016-05-26T16:01:33 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-26T16:06:37 < dongs> what happen 2016-05-26T16:10:50 < dongs> http://boingboing.net/2016/05/25/norwegian-consumer-council-bro.html 2016-05-26T16:14:28 < dongs> It is designing a PCB for an already prepared schematic in EAGLE. PCB is about stepper motors, valves, dc pumps, step-down switchers, strobe light power source, etc. The first thing to do is checking the schematic if there is something wrong or if the design can be improved. And then designing the PCB for the best EMC performance and optimum footprint. 2016-05-26T16:14:41 < dongs> ez job 4 zyp https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Design-Build-PCB-with-PIC/ 2016-05-26T16:15:37 < dongs> Double sided (bottom side ONLY to be used when lines need to cross each other) 2016-05-26T16:15:39 < dongs> err wat 2016-05-26T16:15:40 < dongs> ?? 2016-05-26T16:17:13 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Translation/Translate-Technical-Manuals-electrical/ haha 2016-05-26T16:17:19 < dongs> "only hungarian native speakrs need to apply" 2016-05-26T16:17:25 < dongs> > 20 bids from pakis 2016-05-26T16:17:29 < dongs> > not a single hungarian 2016-05-26T16:18:25 < dongs> oh hey no there's a hungarian guy 2016-05-26T16:18:35 < dongs> ok 1 and 19 pakis 2016-05-26T16:18:54 < dongs> upgrdman: beep 2016-05-26T16:19:29 < Rob235> ugh, 2 packages say sorting complete and will switch to out for delivery, one arrived at the post office 20 min after sorting was complete on the other 2, that's the only package I wanted today 2016-05-26T16:19:49 < jadew> there are two hungarians who live in Rmania 2016-05-26T16:20:04 < jadew> it's weird that both of them live here 2016-05-26T16:20:30 < jadew> oh wait, scratch that 2016-05-26T16:20:42 < jadew> we have an entire area where they don't even speak romanian 2016-05-26T16:20:57 < dongs> is hungary close to your place or osmething? 2016-05-26T16:21:02 < dongs> i guess its all in shiteurope 2016-05-26T16:21:15 < jadew> we're neighbours 2016-05-26T16:21:32 < dongs> o yeah, google maps confirms 2016-05-26T16:21:57 < jadew> they have great soup 2016-05-26T16:22:15 < Rob235> no soup for you! 2016-05-26T16:22:52 < Tectu> dongs, stop bloggin 2016-05-26T16:23:22 < dongs> request denied 2016-05-26T16:24:02 < Tectu> How dare you?? Go to your room, now! 2016-05-26T16:28:35 < Rob235> new cx30w props coming today, lets see if I can break a few more. well actually these are hubsan x4 props but hopefully they work 2016-05-26T16:31:30 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibhufvqjuuuomnbf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T16:38:03 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-26T16:38:11 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T16:40:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T16:54:16 < jadew> I wonder why wikipedia doesn't just use ads 2016-05-26T16:54:22 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-161-85.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-26T16:54:52 < Rob235> shhhh 2016-05-26T16:55:01 < Rob235> ads are bad mmmkay? 2016-05-26T16:55:28 < jadew> they're not bad and it would spare them all the begging they have to go through 2016-05-26T16:55:36 < jadew> it's a good service, nobody will mind a couple of ads 2016-05-26T16:56:16 < Rob235> as long as they do it right. If my laptop fans start spinning up when visiting wikipedia like some other sites with a billion ads I'd be pissed 2016-05-26T16:56:20 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-180-186.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:03:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-26T17:09:24 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-26T17:10:34 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:12:10 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-26T17:15:20 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:15:20 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-05-26T17:15:25 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.126.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:15:49 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:15:49 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-05-26T17:16:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:16:24 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:31:21 < Lux> or people could just give them money and shut up 2016-05-26T17:43:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-26T17:47:17 < dongs> wow haha.. 2016-05-26T17:47:25 < dongs> NXP LPC shit from their CMSIS lib is completely fucking broken 2016-05-26T17:47:31 < dongs> what fucking utter garbage 2016-05-26T17:48:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T17:54:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-26T17:55:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T18:07:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T18:08:30 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T18:21:40 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-26T18:26:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-26T18:56:12 < Tectu> please watch your language. 2016-05-26T18:56:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T18:59:55 < aandrew> lol 2016-05-26T19:00:13 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-26T19:01:01 < dongs> tectu appears to have a pole up his ass today 2016-05-26T19:01:05 < dongs> maybe not enough ugfx sales 2016-05-26T19:01:49 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-26T19:08:59 < Steffanx> Dongs troll radar is broken 2016-05-26T19:11:29 < dongs> ya time to sleep. 2016-05-26T19:12:35 < Steffanx> time to get stoned. 2016-05-26T19:19:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.99.171] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T19:19:35 < upgrdman> how do i get the mcu clock speed on an stm32? 2016-05-26T19:19:40 < upgrdman> iirc theres some cmsis thing 2016-05-26T19:20:36 < Tectu> toggle GPIO as quickly as possible, wire to ICU input pin, profit. 2016-05-26T19:22:16 < Tectu> (I don't know) 2016-05-26T19:29:23 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-26T19:30:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-26T19:34:34 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T19:35:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T19:35:58 < upgrdman> oh, it's SystemCoreClock 2016-05-26T19:35:59 < Laurenceb_> hmm I need to work on my dual nationality 2016-05-26T19:36:12 < Laurenceb_> then I can vote for Brexit and Trump 2016-05-26T19:36:38 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-26T19:36:50 < upgrdman> so like why is a brexit noteworthy 2016-05-26T19:36:56 < upgrdman> im not up on the eu news 2016-05-26T19:37:01 < Laurenceb_> I think I'm eligible 2016-05-26T19:37:12 < Laurenceb_> hum dad is US 2016-05-26T19:37:27 < Laurenceb_> inb4 murica troll memes 2016-05-26T19:43:31 < jpa-> https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13087720_1706906386229648_2958910226468429173_n.png?oh=facf149dc11b04c684bc53fc8eddb8d9&oe=57D3E8CA finnish comics 2016-05-26T19:44:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.123] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T19:48:14 < qyx> jpa-: thanks, I did a workaround though 2016-05-26T19:48:35 < qyx> http://openpaste.org/C8E8C0dE 2016-05-26T19:48:37 < qyx> fancy progressbar 2016-05-26T19:48:46 < qyx> much unicode 2016-05-26T19:48:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-26T20:10:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:152d:9a89:111d:b070] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T20:10:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-26T20:13:00 < kakimir> there must be better ones 2016-05-26T20:15:56 < Tectu> jpa-, Steffanx refuses to be extra sweet 2016-05-26T20:16:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.153] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T20:16:40 < Steffanx> Im very sweet, i only don't like sweet bbq. 2016-05-26T20:18:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T20:19:00 < Laurenceb_> sweet bbq? Two words that should never go together 2016-05-26T20:19:15 < BrainDamage> what kind of soulless monster eats sweet meat 2016-05-26T20:19:31 < Tectu> Laurenceb_ does BBQ? 2016-05-26T20:19:46 < Laurenceb_> not very often :( 2016-05-26T20:19:51 < Steffanx> BrainDamage, some sweet spareribs are nice, fresh from the grill <3 2016-05-26T20:19:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a8b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T20:20:00 < Tectu> dutchland... 2016-05-26T20:25:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T20:29:36 < severus> hey, does sb use mbed? 2016-05-26T20:29:39 < severus> how do you disassemble mbed-generated binary for stm32? 2016-05-26T20:30:11 < kakimir> sweet steffan 2016-05-26T20:31:10 < Steffanx> yes kakimir. 2016-05-26T20:32:35 < kakimir> you come to stm32 meet? 2016-05-26T20:32:46 < Steffanx> sure where and when? 2016-05-26T20:33:47 < kakimir> laurences house? 2016-05-26T20:34:33 < Steffanx> tiny appartment? 2016-05-26T20:35:08 < kakimir> I don't know 2016-05-26T20:36:12 < kakimir> I did ID photo shoot today but I'm still little bit 50-60 if I'm going 2016-05-26T20:37:00 < Steffanx> going to the party? 2016-05-26T20:37:12 < kakimir> stm32 party? 2016-05-26T20:37:24 < Steffanx> "but I'm still little bit 50-60 if I'm going" <= that.. going what? 2016-05-26T20:37:32 < Steffanx> /where 2016-05-26T20:37:44 < kakimir> eurotrip 2016-05-26T20:37:49 < Steffanx> oh. 2016-05-26T20:39:00 < jpa-> qyx: i was wondering how you worked around the bug using a progress bar :) 2016-05-26T20:39:28 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-26T20:39:51 < kakimir> if I have works to 8th I miss the rice 2016-05-26T20:43:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-26T20:46:11 < Steffanx> rice kakimir? 2016-05-26T20:59:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.173] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:12:14 < Laurenceb_> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2016-05-26--16-20-19-PI868-69CD.jpeg 2016-05-26T21:14:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.86.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:14:21 < qyx> Laurenceb_: isnt that a new record? 2016-05-26T21:14:30 < Laurenceb_> for ssdv, yes 2016-05-26T21:14:37 < Laurenceb_> 12th place overall 2016-05-26T21:14:46 < Laurenceb_> for amateur ballooning 2016-05-26T21:15:08 < qyx> and has it bursted yet? 2016-05-26T21:15:22 < qyx> *burst 2016-05-26T21:16:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-26T21:16:41 -!- severus [59464f57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.70.79.87] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-26T21:19:00 < englishman> how does it take a selfie like that 2016-05-26T21:19:44 < Laurenceb_> yeah its down now 2016-05-26T21:20:10 < Laurenceb_> englishman: Rpi zero camera board with silabs transceiver 2016-05-26T21:20:37 < englishman> bs 2016-05-26T21:20:41 < englishman> rpi zero is vapourware 2016-05-26T21:20:55 < Laurenceb_> heh this is an offical Rpi promo flight 2016-05-26T21:21:10 < Laurenceb_> will be all over their blogz soon 2016-05-26T21:21:12 < englishman> heh 2016-05-26T21:22:45 < BrainDamage> you can buy a c0 2016-05-26T21:22:50 < BrainDamage> that is not vapourware 2016-05-26T21:23:26 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:23:46 < englishman> http://dn.odroid.com/homebackup/201601/C0_drone_62.jpg 2016-05-26T21:23:47 < englishman> lol wat 2016-05-26T21:23:53 < Laurenceb_> the fps sucks, it seems to be downgraded to 60fps 2016-05-26T21:23:59 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:24:01 < Laurenceb_> useless for rockoon launch 2016-05-26T21:24:32 < BrainDamage> raccoon* 2016-05-26T21:24:45 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should have no video at all 2016-05-26T21:24:59 < Laurenceb_> audio array is probably more useful for diagnostics 2016-05-26T21:25:26 < BrainDamage> is this the racoon with 1.5g payload budget using the estes rockets? 2016-05-26T21:25:51 -!- Vegeta [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.126.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:25:58 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-26T21:26:09 < Laurenceb_> actually 2.5grams using Klima D motors 2016-05-26T21:26:17 < Laurenceb_> from weird German company 2016-05-26T21:26:24 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.126.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-26T21:26:30 < Laurenceb_> 35km -> 125km 2016-05-26T21:26:44 < BrainDamage> how exactly do you plan to do video streaming with 2g budget 2016-05-26T21:26:59 < Laurenceb_> nah the video would be of the launch 2016-05-26T21:27:05 < Laurenceb_> no way to fit video onboard 2016-05-26T21:27:25 < BrainDamage> do you have some CW tracker? 2016-05-26T21:27:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:152d:9a89:111d:b070] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-26T21:27:28 < Laurenceb_> the 2 grams would just be a CW tracker yeah 2016-05-26T21:28:00 < Laurenceb_> 868mhz using a helix antenna wrapped around the rocket and a keyfob IC triggered using magnetic sensor 2016-05-26T21:28:28 < BrainDamage> is the rx at ground station or on the ballon? 2016-05-26T21:28:39 < BrainDamage> also, what's your isp? 2016-05-26T21:28:47 < Laurenceb_> there are two ground stations synced video timepulse from gps modules 2016-05-26T21:29:20 < Laurenceb_> then there is some long baseline techniques to fit the trajectory, this is routinely done for satellites 2016-05-26T21:29:24 -!- Vegeta is now known as [VEGETA] 2016-05-26T21:29:27 < Laurenceb_> isp is about 120s 2016-05-26T21:29:46 < Laurenceb_> depends how you model the isp - if you include case ablation into effective isp 2016-05-26T21:30:23 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:30:38 < BrainDamage> i would, it still contributes to put it forward 2016-05-26T21:30:42 < Laurenceb_> an Estes motor is never going to get to 100km due to the poor black powder isp 2016-05-26T21:31:03 < Laurenceb_> well you can model it as a mass loss during burn, it gives similar results in the end 2016-05-26T21:31:22 < Laurenceb_> Klima uses Potassium Perchlorate and some weird Amine chemicals 2016-05-26T21:31:45 < Laurenceb_> gives a relatively clean exhaust with lots of nitrogen gas 2016-05-26T21:31:47 < BrainDamage> potassium perchlorate has horrible shelf life iirc 2016-05-26T21:31:51 < Laurenceb_> wut 2016-05-26T21:31:58 < BrainDamage> unless i'm confusing 2016-05-26T21:32:53 < BrainDamage> nvm, i'm confusing with another 2016-05-26T21:32:58 < Laurenceb_> I think you are, aiui it practically lasts forever 2016-05-26T21:33:08 < Laurenceb_> unless it gets too damp and starts leaching out 2016-05-26T21:33:57 < qyx> mhm that odroid C0 looks neat 2016-05-26T21:34:00 < Laurenceb_> anyway in principal this is very trivial, just light a stock ~3euro Klima motor and it flies up to 125km or maybe even 140km 2016-05-26T21:34:20 < Laurenceb_> the problem is it needs to be spin stabilised :S 2016-05-26T21:34:20 < qyx> a pity that the hdmi connector is still there 2016-05-26T21:34:32 < Rob235> everclear is gross 2016-05-26T21:35:00 < BrainDamage> so you "just" attach a motor to spin it up on the rocket 2016-05-26T21:35:11 < BrainDamage> until the exaust goes apeshit from centrifugal force? 2016-05-26T21:35:39 < Laurenceb_> luckily the exhaust isnt screwed by the centrifugal force 2016-05-26T21:35:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah "just" 2016-05-26T21:36:16 < BrainDamage> how do you stabilize the launch platform? 2016-05-26T21:36:17 < Laurenceb_> I figured there was too much to go wrong that way - it needs a clip on supercap powered igniter that just seems like a bad idea 2016-05-26T21:36:21 < BrainDamage> giant pendulum? 2016-05-26T21:36:23 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-05-26T21:36:48 < Laurenceb_> ~10m long suspension with some trailing streamers seems easily good enough 2016-05-26T21:37:10 < Laurenceb_> atm I'm looking at a clip on spin nozzle thing 2016-05-26T21:37:26 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/crgAtSR.png 2016-05-26T21:38:20 < BrainDamage> did you actually calculate the de laval nozzles for 40km altitude or are you bsing them? 2016-05-26T21:38:47 < Laurenceb_> I'm using simple 15 degree conical nozzles 2016-05-26T21:39:08 < Laurenceb_> luckily its possible to rebore the Klima motors on a lathe to get the larger nozzles 2016-05-26T21:39:23 < BrainDamage> i guess past 40km you don't get as much atmospheric variation 2016-05-26T21:40:15 < Laurenceb_> theres enough atmosphere to require ~30krpm spin but not enough to make fins at all functional 2016-05-26T21:40:26 < Laurenceb_> rather annoying, but at least drag losses are tiny 2016-05-26T21:41:02 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-26T21:41:28 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:42:05 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: 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bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:45:25 -!- bilboquet [~bilboquet@95-210-222-21.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-26T21:45:32 < BrainDamage> considering there's a decent fraction in terms of world countries going there to kill eachother, it doesn't seem that absurd 2016-05-26T21:45:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:46:08 < BrainDamage> there's mutiple factions wanting to kill eachother, each one of them has separate backers 2016-05-26T21:46:24 < BrainDamage> kurds have usa, govt has russians, etc 2016-05-26T21:46:53 < BrainDamage> and the average compentence seems low, craploads of weapon staches stolen by rebels 2016-05-26T21:48:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T21:49:45 < aandrew> I'm surprised they haven't started booby trapping small weapons caches 2016-05-26T21:50:05 < aandrew> go to steal it, wait until it gets to its destination (perhaps a weapons depot/armoury) and kablooie 2016-05-26T21:52:04 < BrainDamage> they did that in WWII 2016-05-26T21:52:24 < aandrew> the old tricks are the best tricks 2016-05-26T21:52:59 < BrainDamage> they also aidropped fake ammo which blew up guns 2016-05-26T21:53:02 < Sync> aandrew: it is already happening 2016-05-26T21:54:02 < aandrew> you gotta put like 5% or 1% exploding ammo 2016-05-26T21:54:13 < aandrew> they fire a few rounds, it's fine 2016-05-26T21:54:19 < aandrew> I'm sure this has all been thought of before 2016-05-26T21:54:23 < BrainDamage> that's exactly what they did 2016-05-26T21:56:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@37.44.99.171] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T22:00:23 < Laurenceb_> I need to find some weapons pros :D 2016-05-26T22:00:49 < Laurenceb_> I need something like a nebelwerfer on a balloon 2016-05-26T22:02:28 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-26T22:04:14 < Laurenceb_> there are lots of ways to _try_ to do it, but probably only a few that stand a chance of working and even fewer that are the most practical 2016-05-26T22:14:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-26T22:15:09 < Laurenceb_> http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2718889/Nebelwerfer 2016-05-26T22:16:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T22:22:45 < englishman> what did i tell you about low quality humour, Laurenceb_ 2016-05-26T22:26:43 < Laurenceb_> wait wut http://www.sixtharmygroup.com/portal/viewtopic.php?t=2696&sid=732a77bd94396380ce008792670cb727 2016-05-26T22:28:07 < kakimir> I need to scale 65536 to exactly to 1000 2016-05-26T22:28:15 < kakimir> without floats 2016-05-26T22:28:44 < Laurenceb_> grrr how does it work 2016-05-26T22:28:58 < Laurenceb_> why the hell would I care about weathering of tubes 2016-05-26T22:30:26 < Laurenceb_> wut https://erkennungsmarken.smugmug.com/Business/Nebelwerfer/i-gvvdP55 2016-05-26T22:30:28 < Laurenceb_> DO WANT 2016-05-26T22:30:45 < Laurenceb_> unless thats CGI 2016-05-26T22:35:52 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T22:36:10 < Laurenceb_> oh it is with stick rockets 2016-05-26T22:36:11 < Laurenceb_> fail 2016-05-26T22:41:38 < kakimir> are ou toy kollekor Laurenceb_ ? 2016-05-26T22:41:44 < Laurenceb_> heh update from Rpi guy: Picam flexipcb cracked and camera fell off 2016-05-26T22:41:50 < Laurenceb_> huh? 2016-05-26T22:42:24 < kakimir> you have desks and shelves 2016-05-26T22:42:33 < kakimir> full of figures? 2016-05-26T22:42:50 < Laurenceb_> huh no 2016-05-26T22:43:15 < Steffanx> Are you hydraulic press channel guy kakimir? 2016-05-26T22:43:28 < Laurenceb_> http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1pny8TT6K1r1j1sko1_500.jpg 2016-05-26T22:43:28 < kakimir> I have been in anime home.. just to check Laurenceb_ 2016-05-26T22:43:34 < Laurenceb_> no not like that ^ 2016-05-26T22:43:59 < kakimir> literally metric tonne of anime related stuff 2016-05-26T22:44:24 < Laurenceb_> nope I have 0 anime shit 2016-05-26T22:44:31 < kakimir> guy was dressed as some anime _girl_ character 2016-05-26T22:45:56 < kakimir> he was kind of nice and approriate though 2016-05-26T22:46:29 < kakimir> no buttsecks 2016-05-26T22:47:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-26T22:49:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T22:50:19 < Laurenceb_> https://sli.mg/dxLMdE 2016-05-26T22:52:20 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T22:52:41 < Steffanx> people ever told you you are weird kakimir? 2016-05-26T22:54:32 < kakimir> who? 2016-05-26T22:54:45 < Steffanx> people. 2016-05-26T22:54:46 < Fleck> you are weird kakimir 2016-05-26T22:54:54 < Steffanx> it was a question. 2016-05-26T22:55:46 < kakimir> Steffanx: only some girls call me creep 2016-05-26T22:55:47 < Tectu> "Hot Vegan Chick" does that even exist? 2016-05-26T22:55:58 < Tectu> because you only know _some_ girls I guess. 2016-05-26T22:56:19 < kakimir> that is very true 2016-05-26T22:57:19 < Steffanx> dont be so mean mr Tectu. 2016-05-26T22:57:28 < Tectu> I am very sorry. 2016-05-26T22:57:29 < Laurenceb_> ooh shit spacex 2016-05-26T22:57:37 < Steffanx> kakimir is my 2nd favourite finnisher. 2016-05-26T22:57:47 < Tectu> 3rd soon 2016-05-26T22:57:50 < Laurenceb_> 30minutes to epic win/fail 2016-05-26T22:57:56 < Laurenceb_> this should be fun 2016-05-26T22:58:00 < kakimir> only hydraulix press dude you admire more? 2016-05-26T22:58:17 < Steffanx> no that other finnisher here of course. 2016-05-26T22:58:24 < Fleck> kakimir: no, hydroulic girls ;D 2016-05-26T22:58:25 < kakimir> jpa 2016-05-26T22:58:29 < Steffanx> link to stream Laurenceb_? 2016-05-26T22:58:34 < Laurenceb_> dunno yet 2016-05-26T22:58:49 < Laurenceb_> I want to find technical stream to avoid silly presenters 2016-05-26T22:59:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-26T23:00:05 < Tectu> Laurenceb_ stop being racist please 2016-05-26T23:00:06 < Steffanx> you wont find that probably. 2016-05-26T23:00:39 < Tectu> presenters are people too. 2016-05-26T23:00:45 < Ultrasauce> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPYOtCFSLKw 2016-05-26T23:01:38 < Laurenceb_> oh I screwed my timezones 2016-05-26T23:01:39 < Laurenceb_> fail 2016-05-26T23:11:24 < Steffanx> HAHA 2016-05-26T23:13:24 < Laurenceb_> I'm lazy as UTC is usually UK time 2016-05-26T23:13:29 < Laurenceb_> apart from in summer 2016-05-26T23:13:41 < Ultrasauce> and by usually you mean....half the year 2016-05-26T23:14:16 < Rob235> damn you norelco 2016-05-26T23:16:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.86.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-26T23:18:31 < kakimir> I decided not to use integer based pid 2016-05-26T23:18:48 < kakimir> just float and when really performance is required then just M4F 2016-05-26T23:20:34 < Ultrasauce> instead of just *1000/65536? 2016-05-26T23:22:37 < kakimir> that was simple scaling I did it just like that 2016-05-26T23:22:47 < kakimir> no need to involve floats 2016-05-26T23:23:04 < kakimir> I'm talkin about PID 2016-05-26T23:32:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a8b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-26T23:37:34 < karlp> Laurenceb_: BrainDamage what's "isp" when you're talking about this rocoon thing? 2016-05-26T23:38:00 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_impulse 2016-05-26T23:38:41 < karlp> qyx: yeah, no idea why the hdmi connector is still on that c0 either. dropped all the other connecots? Maybe it's one of the few "hard" ones to solder at home? 2016-05-26T23:39:14 < Laurenceb_> its a measure of propellant performance 2016-05-26T23:39:44 < Laurenceb_> and the reason an Estes rocket will never go >60km wheras an equivalent Klima D motor goes way higher 2016-05-26T23:42:09 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8cRnITXWtY 2016-05-26T23:42:17 < Laurenceb_> dat mach diamond 2016-05-26T23:42:36 < englishman> 60km estes rocket? 2016-05-26T23:42:36 < karlp> BrainDamage: thanks :) 2016-05-26T23:42:37 < englishman> wow 2016-05-26T23:43:27 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: do you need airspace clearance for that? 2016-05-26T23:44:06 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: no as it launches above controlled airspace 2016-05-26T23:45:58 < kakimir> when launched from ground? 2016-05-26T23:46:19 < BrainDamage> he needs ait traffic controller approval for the balloon, but that's it 2016-05-26T23:46:37 < Laurenceb_> yup 2016-05-26T23:47:09 < Laurenceb_> controlled airspace extends to ~60kfeet almost everywhere 2016-05-26T23:57:35 < kakimir> is transponder required for balloons? 2016-05-26T23:57:39 < kakimir> os such 2016-05-26T23:59:04 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-26T23:59:45 < Laurenceb_> hardly anyone requires transponders for balloons --- Day changed Fri May 27 2016 2016-05-27T00:06:06 < kakimir> hardly anyone? 2016-05-27T00:06:30 < Laurenceb_> only a few jurisdictions worldwide 2016-05-27T00:07:25 < karlp> now, more importantly, should I put any silly/funny text on my space bar? 2016-05-27T00:08:39 < Fleck> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/48/2d/fe/482dfe7e7ba4bb411c86c5732b7c21c7.jpg 2016-05-27T00:09:23 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@46.32.126.117] has quit [Quit: Until we meet again...!] 2016-05-27T00:09:28 < kakimir> karlp: ? 2016-05-27T00:09:57 < karlp> finishing up my custom keyboard, wondering if I should put anything silly on the space bar 2016-05-27T00:10:07 < karlp> like, "das space bar" or something 2016-05-27T00:10:28 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, you around? 2016-05-27T00:10:44 < Laurenceb_> safe space bar 2016-05-27T00:10:58 < kakimir> karlp: does it fit to general style of keyboard though? 2016-05-27T00:12:23 < karlp> http://palmtree.beeroclock.net/~karlp/kb-nearly-final.png you tell me? 2016-05-27T00:12:27 < karlp> Laurenceb_: heh 2016-05-27T00:12:38 < karlp> not sure I really wnat to explain that to people 2016-05-27T00:12:42 < Ultrasauce> are there any OLED screens with that aspect ratio? 2016-05-27T00:13:10 < karlp> Ultrasauce: with what aspect ratio? 2016-05-27T00:13:16 < karlp> Fleck: yea yeah 2016-05-27T00:13:23 < Ultrasauce> near that of the space bar's top surface 2016-05-27T00:13:55 < Ultrasauce> you could double your unit cost for a shitty display that your hands cover most of the time anyway 2016-05-27T00:13:59 < kakimir> is there ultra deep grooving in kb buttons anywhere? 2016-05-27T00:14:02 < Fleck> karlp: or send one to me ;P 2016-05-27T00:14:23 < upgrdman> so for stm32f0 semihosting, at one point in time i did not need to call initialise_monitor_handles(). i could just printf() and it just worked. now i need to call that init function. PaulFertser told me why a while ago, and how to work around it, but i forgot how. how can i made it so i dont need to call that init function? 2016-05-27T00:14:28 < karlp> well, it's just caps, they're $50. you can buy your own :) 2016-05-27T00:14:43 < karlp> upgrdman: mon arm semihosting enable or something? 2016-05-27T00:14:55 < karlp> and link with --specs=rdimon.specs or similar 2016-05-27T00:17:59 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: I think it depends on whether you use newlib's startup or custom startup. 2016-05-27T00:18:39 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: with newlib's startup (when you do no have -nostartfiles) you do not need to call that function from your code. 2016-05-27T00:18:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-27T00:22:09 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-27T00:25:47 < upgrdman> how do i enable newlib? 2016-05-27T00:25:57 < upgrdman> i was following some blog post and they used rdimon 2016-05-27T00:26:06 < upgrdman> --specs=rdimon.specs 2016-05-27T00:28:28 < upgrdman> i see a nano.specs, but if i use it i get ... undefined reference to `_isatty' 2016-05-27T00:33:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T00:36:32 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/daveake/status/735947649363415040/photo/1 2016-05-27T00:36:40 < Laurenceb_> raspberry fail 2016-05-27T00:36:50 < englishman> what happen 2016-05-27T00:36:53 < englishman> looks like a blue box 2016-05-27T00:36:56 < englishman> no rageberry in sight 2016-05-27T00:37:17 < Laurenceb_> that white adhesive foam isnt for low temperature 2016-05-27T00:37:59 < Laurenceb_> its... somewhere is Wales 2016-05-27T00:47:09 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T00:50:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-27T00:50:37 < upgrdman_> so semihosting printf() is slow. feels like 9600 baud telnet or slower. im guessing by using a bigger buffer, and manually flushing it, i can improve performance? how do i set the buffer size, and not have it autoflush on \n 2016-05-27T00:51:07 < Laurenceb_> is it blocking? 2016-05-27T00:51:33 < upgrdman_> i dont know 2016-05-27T00:51:43 < upgrdman_> i think so 2016-05-27T00:52:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-27T00:52:34 < karlp> upgrdman_: are you on m0? 2016-05-27T00:52:41 < upgrdman_> yes, f0 2016-05-27T00:52:45 < upgrdman_> which is m0 iirc 2016-05-27T00:52:54 < karlp> yeah, so no swo then. 2016-05-27T00:52:59 < upgrdman_> ya :( 2016-05-27T00:55:07 < englishman> Laurenceb_: so, the first ragepi0 was delivered to wales 2016-05-27T00:55:11 < englishman> aerially 2016-05-27T00:55:18 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-27T00:56:33 < PaulFertser> upgrdman_: you do not need to enable newlib, gcc-arm-embedded is already using newlib. But you can choose not to use its startup with "-nostartfiles", then you need to initialise handles yourself. 2016-05-27T00:56:59 < upgrdman_> ya im not using that flag. weird 2016-05-27T00:57:28 < PaulFertser> upgrdman_: but do you call the necessary function (I do not remember the exact name) from your reset vector handler? Or is it going straight to main? 2016-05-27T00:57:41 < PaulFertser> upgrdman_: setvbuf(stdout, NULL, _IOFBF, BUFSIZ); 2016-05-27T00:58:06 < PaulFertser> (disables automatic flushing on \n, so you fflush(stdout) manually. 2016-05-27T00:58:23 < PaulFertser> Sorry, gtg now. 2016-05-27T00:59:11 < upgrdman_> hmm looks like my linker script does the basics, then SystemInit() then main() 2016-05-27T00:59:14 < upgrdman_> k 2016-05-27T01:07:43 < Laurenceb_> Murica will be dropping the N bomb twice on Hiroshima 2016-05-27T01:09:33 < kakimir> niggaah 2016-05-27T01:10:37 < kakimir> I heard that japs are very racist and ecpecially towards a black person 2016-05-27T01:10:41 < upgrdman_> ok so manually flushing the semihosting buffer helped a lot, but it still fell kinda slow, like maybe a 115200 uart. im using an stlink2 clone. would a better programmer be faster as this, or is this a mcu (m0) limit? 2016-05-27T01:10:57 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: why do you think dongs works there 2016-05-27T01:11:10 < Laurenceb_> the answer is obvious 2016-05-27T01:11:14 < upgrdman_> e.g. i can just uart at like 2MBaud and its super fast, but then i have to plug an ftdi into my stm32f0 :/ 2016-05-27T01:12:13 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: isn't dongs like jap-jewish superrice? 2016-05-27T01:12:24 < Laurenceb_> probably 2016-05-27T01:17:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-27T01:17:25 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-27T01:18:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T01:19:10 < kakimir> it apparently took me 8minutes to figure it out 2016-05-27T01:19:15 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-27T01:19:20 < kakimir> what you meant 2016-05-27T01:22:17 < Laurenceb_> <fsphil> think I'll like emfcamp. it's camping, with also sitting in front of computer 2016-05-27T01:22:19 < Laurenceb_> lulz 2016-05-27T01:28:37 < Sync> emf is actually not bad 2016-05-27T01:30:21 < Thorn> so this seller did give me a fake chinapost tracking # to keep me quiet and sent the package via a different service. 2 months later, they call me and arrange a courier delivery for tomorrow 2016-05-27T01:30:34 < Thorn> should I leave them a bad rating on aliexpress? 2016-05-27T01:30:53 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-27T01:32:07 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-27T01:42:23 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IMcfaPmFvg there is applications of VR 2016-05-27T02:05:37 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-27T02:06:14 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T02:07:52 < PeterK> @search A Court of Thorns and Roses 2016-05-27T02:08:08 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-27T02:16:34 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T02:56:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-27T02:59:04 < dongs> i see. 2016-05-27T02:59:12 < dongs> so despite me clicking back classic interface in gaypal 2016-05-27T02:59:23 < dongs> they switched me back to unusable trash today anyway. 2016-05-27T02:59:29 < dongs> fucking cunts 2016-05-27T03:00:39 < dongs> upgrdman_: beep 2016-05-27T03:01:04 < upgrdman_> boop 2016-05-27T03:01:06 < dongs> yo 2016-05-27T03:01:11 < upgrdman_> sup bro 2016-05-27T03:01:12 < dongs> ever looked at the LPC I2C on a scope? 2016-05-27T03:01:21 < upgrdman_> no 2016-05-27T03:01:24 < upgrdman_> is it fucked? 2016-05-27T03:01:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/7YZ3tsA.png 2016-05-27T03:01:35 < dongs> i get this initial clockout before sending start 2016-05-27T03:01:45 < upgrdman_> i've done no i2c on lpc, just spi and some other periphs 2016-05-27T03:01:45 < dongs> even if I do it strictly by writing to the 2-3 registers needed to make it happen 2016-05-27T03:02:04 < dongs> the "00" thing that scope picks up 2016-05-27T03:02:24 < upgrdman_> hmm so it sends a byte before your actual payload? 2016-05-27T03:02:29 < Simon--> that's the high speed neg stuff? 2016-05-27T03:02:40 < dongs> neg? 2016-05-27T03:03:11 < Simon--> derr 2016-05-27T03:03:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T03:03:23 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/XdHsKxd.jpg and this one using the lpc cmsis lib, using I2C_MasterTransfer() or something wiht polling 2016-05-27T03:03:34 < dongs> point is there's always that initial clockout of 0 shit 2016-05-27T03:03:46 < dongs> i wonder if they're doing some equivalent of i2cunstick that i wrote for stm 2016-05-27T03:03:49 < dongs> or its something im fucking up 2016-05-27T03:04:20 < upgrdman_> maybe it's output the byte in the tx fifo immediately after config? 2016-05-27T03:04:26 < upgrdman_> is there a big to clear/reset fifos? 2016-05-27T03:04:36 < upgrdman_> s/big/bit 2016-05-27T03:04:36 < dongs> yeah i'd assume lpc lib clear it 2016-05-27T03:04:50 < dongs> it does set some stuff in whatever i2c related registers to reset 2016-05-27T03:04:57 < dongs> i followed through the cmsis lib and through garbage in mbed 2016-05-27T03:05:01 < dongs> it seems to be ~similar 2016-05-27T03:05:05 < upgrdman_> right now im actually dicking with stm32 i2c 2016-05-27T03:05:11 < dongs> you'd hope at least one of htem works correctly 2016-05-27T03:05:28 < upgrdman_> and im getting an arbitration loss when i reflash my firmware. but if i power cycle the target, this goes away 2016-05-27T03:05:34 < Simon--> I was thinking http://www.nxp.com/documents/user_manual/UM10204.pdf#page=38 bits (5.3.2) 2016-05-27T03:05:43 < upgrdman_> if theres one master and two slaves, how can there be an i2c arb loss? 2016-05-27T03:06:04 < dongs> Simon--: hah 2016-05-27T03:06:07 < dongs> nah its only 400khz 2016-05-27T03:06:11 < dongs> or wahtever, slightly below 2016-05-27T03:06:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-27T03:06:46 < dongs> upgrdman_: maybe slave holding the bus and stm thinks its multimaster 2016-05-27T03:07:12 < dongs> scope it and update firmware and set gpio blink on arbitration fail and set it as trigger in scope/LA 2016-05-27T03:07:13 < upgrdman_> guess so 2016-05-27T03:07:21 < dongs> see status of scl/sda at that time 2016-05-27T03:07:27 < upgrdman_> i'll just check for arb loss and clear flag. see if this unfucks it 2016-05-27T03:07:38 < upgrdman_> k 2016-05-27T03:09:02 < dongs> yeah but if its caused by something dumb youll see it 2016-05-27T03:09:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-27T03:09:51 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T03:10:35 < Laurenceb_> <upgrdman_> right now im actually dicking with stm32 i2c 2016-05-27T03:10:37 < Laurenceb_> UHOH 2016-05-27T03:10:49 < Laurenceb_> hatebus inbound 2016-05-27T03:11:05 < emeb> heh 2016-05-27T03:11:17 < emeb> depends strongly on what you try to do with it. 2016-05-27T03:11:25 < emeb> simple stuff is no problem. 2016-05-27T03:12:25 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/purora/ecm-prototype-0/ 2016-05-27T03:13:32 < Laurenceb_> emdrive grade 2016-05-27T03:13:48 < emeb> electrons n ions n stuff 2016-05-27T03:14:02 < dongs> obligatory rageberrypi included 2016-05-27T03:14:26 < Rob235> w00t just ripped out a motor by trying to take a prop off :) 2016-05-27T03:14:27 < dongs> pics taken by ohsix tenphone 2016-05-27T03:20:20 < Laurenceb_> <upgrdman_> if theres one master and two slaves, how can there be an i2c arb loss? 2016-05-27T03:20:33 < Laurenceb_> the answer is probably jammed start or stop bits 2016-05-27T03:20:42 < upgrdman_> i think i know the issue 2016-05-27T03:20:48 < upgrdman_> this fucking barometer is weird 2016-05-27T03:20:50 < upgrdman_> like 2016-05-27T03:21:09 < Laurenceb_> all i2c devices are weird 2016-05-27T03:21:11 < upgrdman_> you dont access it like normal registers 2016-05-27T03:21:20 < Laurenceb_> think you can have a drop in replacement? NOPE 2016-05-27T03:21:24 < upgrdman_> they say it has no internal mcu, so its like a basic state machine 2016-05-27T03:21:56 < upgrdman_> and i need to dick with my i2c lib to make it work how it wants. easy enough, but i was hoping it would work good enough 2016-05-27T03:30:54 < dongs> which shitty baro is it 2016-05-27T03:31:01 < dongs> i remember bmp085 or wahtever needed some dumb shit 2016-05-27T03:31:21 < Rob235> anyone ever make bho? 2016-05-27T03:32:25 < dongs> sounds like stoner shit 2016-05-27T03:32:35 < Rob235> you sound like stoner shit 2016-05-27T03:32:50 < Rob235> whatever that means 2016-05-27T03:33:57 < Rob235> does half the amount of solvent take half the amount of time in the freezer to let shit condense to the bottom? 2016-05-27T03:37:03 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-27T03:42:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-27T03:45:21 < Rob235> what's it called when you can't see your hand but you have a general sense of where it is 2016-05-27T03:48:28 < Laurenceb_> fapping 2016-05-27T03:48:31 < upgrdman_> dongs, MS5611 2016-05-27T03:48:56 < Rob235> ha 2016-05-27T03:49:14 < upgrdman_> i'll just fix my code. i was hoping it would tolerate "normal" behavior 2016-05-27T03:49:38 < upgrdman_> bbl 2016-05-27T03:49:41 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-27T03:50:51 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-27T03:52:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T03:53:18 < dongs> donno shit worked ok for me 2016-05-27T03:53:20 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-27T04:02:17 < Laurenceb_> http://sickipedia.org/ 2016-05-27T04:02:19 < Laurenceb_> oh noes 2016-05-27T04:02:20 < dongs> old 2016-05-27T04:02:35 < dongs> oh its finally dead 2016-05-27T04:02:35 < dongs> k 2016-05-27T04:12:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T04:13:46 < dongs> upgrdman: wat, 5611 doesnt need any special weird i2c 2016-05-27T04:14:57 < upgrdman> dongs, well like they show you just reading registers with first specifying what register number. like issue cmd to start conversion, then just 3 read bytes later on. no read register x/x+1/x+2 shit 2016-05-27T04:15:11 < upgrdman> *withOUT first specifying... 2016-05-27T04:16:15 < dongs> nah you write command to start pressure or temperature conversion register 2016-05-27T04:16:21 < dongs> then read results out of ADC result register 2016-05-27T04:16:21 < dongs> thats all 2016-05-27T04:16:33 < dongs> but protocol is same repeat start w/subaddress read or write 2016-05-27T04:17:11 < dongs> the start conversion thing is weird-ish cuz instead of writing conversion paramters to a certian register, the register you write to depends on what its gonna do 2016-05-27T04:17:54 < dongs> so your write subaddress determines if its pressure or temperature, + offset for oversampling etc 2016-05-27T04:19:04 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-27T04:21:25 < upgrdman> well i'll have to be pro and use my oscope to figure it out then. maybe something else is fucked. i only get these i2c bugs (arb loss, etc.) when i talk to the barometer 2016-05-27T04:21:41 < upgrdman> time to check out riglol and unlock the decoders in my work rigol scope 2016-05-27T04:25:36 < dongs> lolz 2016-05-27T04:27:48 < upgrdman> anyone know if this is legit? LoRa rf shit that's got amazeballs range. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2341299 2016-05-27T04:27:59 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: its hype 2016-05-27T04:28:26 < Laurenceb_> heh its srnet 2016-05-27T04:28:35 < Laurenceb_> met him irl a few times 2016-05-27T04:29:07 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: you can get identical performance and a more robust link using silabs 2016-05-27T04:29:26 < Laurenceb_> LoRa is very wide with poor in band rejection 2016-05-27T04:29:37 < upgrdman> whats silabs using? normal FSK/ASK/PSK? 2016-05-27T04:29:44 < Laurenceb_> 2FSK 2016-05-27T04:29:59 < dongs> Troll-PSK 2016-05-27T04:30:00 < Laurenceb_> only reason LoRa works well is good AFC and demod modem 2016-05-27T04:30:14 < upgrdman> afc == ? 2016-05-27T04:30:17 < Laurenceb_> but silabs can do that just as well with a little fiddling with the code 2016-05-27T04:30:26 < Laurenceb_> automatic frequency control 2016-05-27T04:34:49 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T04:40:24 < dongs> hey mi4c has quickcharge shit 2016-05-27T04:40:31 < dongs> i wondr if it'll work off my samsung 9V charger 2016-05-27T04:44:08 < Laurenceb_> wow ancientorigins.net 2016-05-27T04:44:18 < Laurenceb_> I mean ancient-origins 2016-05-27T04:44:23 < Laurenceb_> a new source of lulz 2016-05-27T04:48:26 < englishman> lol Laurenceb_ youve met srnet? 2016-05-27T04:48:32 < englishman> he basically trolls openlrs nonstop 2016-05-27T04:48:45 < englishman> about ham bandplans 2016-05-27T04:49:28 < englishman> lora is interesting, only one shitty closedsores long range rc project i know uses it 2016-05-27T04:49:41 < englishman> and it generates lots of out of channel noise 2016-05-27T04:50:30 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-27T04:51:54 < englishman> cant take these chats ^ 2016-05-27T05:10:36 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T05:15:18 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-27T05:16:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T05:17:12 < emeb> kinda like getting a clay tablet that says you can use the telephone. 2016-05-27T05:30:42 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/UnHmShT.gifv 2016-05-27T05:31:43 < dongs> wat is taht shit 2016-05-27T05:32:16 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: A day without sunshine is like .... night] 2016-05-27T05:32:25 < upgrdman> supposedly injecting CO2 which stimulates someshit and makes you less ugly 2016-05-27T05:32:37 < upgrdman> from https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/4l85hq/just_puff_my_shit_up_fam/ 2016-05-27T05:33:57 -!- willmore [~willmore@98.220.133.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T05:35:23 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-05-27T05:43:06 < dongs> cool 2016-05-27T05:43:10 < dongs> i got sent a dcinema playback card 2016-05-27T05:43:21 < dongs> maybe i should do a eevblag-style unboxing while breathing heavily 2016-05-27T05:44:26 < dongs> lol and gpio card 2016-05-27T05:44:29 < dongs> which runs off PI24F 2016-05-27T05:44:39 < upgrdman> wtf is a dcEnema for? 2016-05-27T05:44:55 < upgrdman> video capture card? 2016-05-27T05:44:57 < dongs> upgrdman: plays moviez on projector in theaters 2016-05-27T05:45:28 < dongs> basically mjpeg2000 decoder + aes crypto on fpga 2016-05-27T05:46:58 < dongs> gpio board is hilarious 2016-05-27T05:47:04 < dongs> routed using that topor shit 2016-05-27T05:47:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-27T05:47:14 < dongs> weird curvy traces 2016-05-27T05:47:24 < dongs> FT245RL on it 2016-05-27T05:47:26 < dongs> and PI24F 2016-05-27T05:47:28 < willmore> I've got some of those cheap STM32 boards on the way for China. I have the STM32 development board support installed on Arduino. Is there much else I need to do to prepare for their arrival? 2016-05-27T05:47:57 < upgrdman> https://imgur.com/C8fgPWM 2016-05-27T05:47:59 < dongs> yes, uninstall arduino 2016-05-27T05:48:19 < willmore> dongs, ;) Anything else? 2016-05-27T05:50:18 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@167-88-22-231.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T05:51:10 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-27T05:51:56 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/bXLxIfv.jpg 2016-05-27T05:53:18 < dongs> i thinkits time for xray 2016-05-27T05:53:32 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T05:53:46 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-27T05:54:01 < upgrdman> fucking weirdos at SparkFun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG6fxc_aiBk 2016-05-27T05:56:30 < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Enpirion/EN5335QI/?qs=rXqtSHp76q5fnGzzjaXI0Q%3d%3d 2016-05-27T05:56:33 < dongs> wut 2016-05-27T05:56:44 < dongs> there's 3 of these in that corner 2016-05-27T05:56:45 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-27T05:56:53 < dongs> ohh haha everything is inside the package 2016-05-27T05:56:56 < dongs> inductor + shit 2016-05-27T05:57:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T06:01:28 < upgrdman> kinda pricy. 2016-05-27T06:01:42 < upgrdman> wonder why people would use that unless space is a premium 2016-05-27T06:03:55 < englishman> Lol dongs was that routed with sharpie on acetate 2016-05-27T06:08:20 < upgrdman> lol, dongs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-I0JRhvt4 2016-05-27T06:15:57 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-05-27T07:08:17 < dongs> emeb_mac: http://i.imgur.com/DT8ZZpM.jpg 2016-05-27T07:16:33 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T07:19:46 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-27T07:19:51 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-27T07:22:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-27T07:28:29 < dongs> R2COM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXHB1wZ2L-0 related 2016-05-27T07:33:09 < dongs> cloning 2016-05-27T07:37:21 < dongs> R2COM: http://i.imgur.com/bXLxIfv.jpg how do i disssemble 2016-05-27T08:04:48 < emeb_mac> dongs: pkg with xtal inside? 2016-05-27T08:06:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:587e:9365:773a:d9f9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T08:06:12 < dongs> nup 2016-05-27T08:06:15 < dongs> its that pdf 2016-05-27T08:06:22 < dongs> < dongs> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Enpirion/EN5335QI/?qs=rXqtSHp76q5fnGzzjaXI0Q%3d%3d 2016-05-27T08:06:26 < dongs> er,, ^ that link 2016-05-27T08:13:34 < emeb_mac> dongs: cool - integrated inductor. 2016-05-27T08:13:38 < dongs> ya 2016-05-27T08:13:48 < dongs> i think its just a regular flat-ish inductor, the thing is like 3mm tall 2016-05-27T08:16:23 < emeb_mac> interesting that the leadframe has exposed metal on the bottom 2016-05-27T08:16:32 < emeb_mac> maybe for mfg test? 2016-05-27T08:17:00 < emeb_mac> those things aren't cheap 2016-05-27T08:17:21 < dongs> altera tax 2016-05-27T08:19:47 < emeb_mac> no shit 2016-05-27T08:19:59 < emeb_mac> "we're so high tech you need to pay us more" 2016-05-27T08:22:35 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/LumZ64v.jpg 2016-05-27T08:34:53 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-27T08:35:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a8b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T08:51:10 < jpa-> Steffanx: if you knew how many finnishers there were already on this channel you might be scared 2016-05-27T08:51:11 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 129 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 128 normal] 2016-05-27T08:53:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a8b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-27T08:59:57 < Thorn> finland is winland 2016-05-27T09:00:58 < Steffanx> But i only keep files on two of them jpa- 2016-05-27T09:01:12 * jpa- shakes off the files 2016-05-27T09:01:33 * jpa- hates being a file rack 2016-05-27T09:15:24 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Need-more-memory-atmel/ 2016-05-27T09:15:24 < dongs> haha 2016-05-27T09:35:57 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T09:36:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T09:38:38 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T09:38:59 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T09:41:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-27T09:54:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.57] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T10:03:43 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibhufvqjuuuomnbf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-27T10:11:08 < dongs> < matkatmusic> gotta find a N-ch switch that has great audio specs 2016-05-27T10:11:09 < dongs> < matkatmusic> which means I probably gotta look at ESS Sabre 2016-05-27T10:11:09 < dongs> wat 2016-05-27T10:11:15 < dongs> attn emeb 2016-05-27T10:17:58 < qyx> dongs: lol, 16bit pointers not enough? 2016-05-27T10:18:27 < qyx> I am curious what may be the case 2016-05-27T10:21:41 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/2CuTCmK.png just closed altidumb 2016-05-27T10:22:27 < dongs> qyx, i think 128 and 644 has slightly different uart shit 2016-05-27T10:22:38 < dongs> i remember hwen doing code for those I had to #ifdef 1284p 2016-05-27T10:22:42 < dongs> so thats probly waht they're doing wrong 2016-05-27T10:25:47 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161925005851 2016-05-27T10:31:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:587e:9365:773a:d9f9] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-27T10:37:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:587e:9365:773a:d9f9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T10:37:58 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T10:42:20 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-114-118.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T11:17:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:587e:9365:773a:d9f9] has quit [Quit: Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...] 2016-05-27T11:40:45 < PeterM> RE: 2016-05-27T11:40:45 < PeterM> EN5335QI 2016-05-27T11:40:58 < PeterM> they have very good transient response 2016-05-27T11:41:06 < PeterM> for xbox hueg fpgas 2016-05-27T11:41:19 < PeterM> also, they are in refrence designs everywhere 2016-05-27T11:41:42 < PeterM> buying $500 FPGA,. who cares about $40 for power supply 2016-05-27T11:43:34 < dongs> right 2016-05-27T12:12:25 < Steffanx> Buying is not pro. 2016-05-27T12:13:49 < PeterM> autism6? 2016-05-27T12:14:48 < Steffanx> Dont know. 2016-05-27T12:15:28 < PeterM> buying is not pro comment just seemed out of place so i assumed you were tlakin to autism 2016-05-27T12:15:49 < Steffanx> Hah. Who knows, youll nevet know :P 2016-05-27T12:16:05 < Steffanx> r 2016-05-27T12:16:14 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.78.206] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T12:18:33 < PeterM> i wodner if jpa- has him on ignroe 2016-05-27T12:18:44 < PeterM> i know he has return to communism o nignore 2016-05-27T12:19:15 < Steffanx> Yes jpa-. As not in logs. 2016-05-27T12:19:29 < Steffanx> Jpa- too* 2016-05-27T12:20:11 < PeterM> yeah 2016-05-27T12:23:55 < Steffanx> True. 2016-05-27T12:36:00 < Steffanx> Cant be right. 2016-05-27T12:36:19 < Steffanx> But if all you need is junk.. 2016-05-27T12:37:27 < Steffanx> If only 16. Its worth a shot. 2016-05-27T12:37:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-114-118.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-27T12:40:31 < Steffanx> 0.0% 2016-05-27T12:40:41 < Steffanx> No ratings. Scammy much. 2016-05-27T12:54:56 < piper> hi Guys, I'm facing a problem on figuring out what's included in the SDK API; are there any universally accepted resources (like doxygen, ...) from where to start from ? 2016-05-27T12:57:53 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-114-118.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T13:03:56 < karlp> piper: you might want to be cler about what you are calling "SDK API" first 2016-05-27T13:05:01 < piper> karlp: I'm using stm32cube 2016-05-27T13:05:11 < dongs> there's a .chm file with docs. 2016-05-27T13:06:12 < piper> on linux :( 2016-05-27T13:06:20 < dongs> sorry to hear that 2016-05-27T13:06:37 < dongs> so you acutally KNEW there were docs 2016-05-27T13:06:37 < karlp> you can read chm files on linux too you know. 2016-05-27T13:06:44 < dongs> you were just looking for free as in aids docs. 2016-05-27T13:07:01 < karlp> dongs is the usb key on that dcinime card the "protection" codes? 2016-05-27T13:07:29 < dongs> for now yes but after upgrade it moves into the cement block 2016-05-27T13:07:45 < karlp> and is that gpio board only connected to the main board via the rj45 connector or something? or are there traces on the back of the pcie edge that I can't see? 2016-05-27T13:07:54 < dongs> no its just a dummy card 2016-05-27T13:08:01 < dongs> 2x5 connector is motherboard USB thingy 2016-05-27T13:08:04 < dongs> like 2 usb ports + 5v 2016-05-27T13:08:12 < dongs> one port to dongle one port to FT245/PIC 2016-05-27T13:08:18 < Steffanx> If id remember my ebay pw i would have ordered ohsix 2016-05-27T13:08:34 < dongs> if you rememebered, you would have +q'd ohsix 2016-05-27T13:08:36 < karlp> what's the RJ port for then? 2016-05-27T13:08:42 < dongs> karlp: PICKIT3 i guess 2016-05-27T13:08:55 < dongs> there's ICSP->RJ11 shits. 2016-05-27T13:09:00 < karlp> heh, that's a chunky connector a debug header 2016-05-27T13:09:07 < dongs> pic people dont care im sure 2016-05-27T13:10:19 < Steffanx> If you remember the condition i maybe would have dongs 2016-05-27T13:10:37 < Steffanx> remembered* 2016-05-27T13:12:30 < Steffanx> Hah the item has been removed ohsix 2016-05-27T13:14:04 < dongs> item has been removed but autism hasn't been :( 2016-05-27T13:14:24 < Steffanx> Fuck off. 2016-05-27T13:15:49 < Steffanx> I would just let him be here to troll you. 2016-05-27T13:15:52 < Steffanx> :P 2016-05-27T13:16:14 < dongs> it only trolls everyone else who doesn't have him on ignore 2016-05-27T13:16:22 < dongs> and then he's been bringing self-clones lately 2016-05-27T13:16:25 < dongs> and chatting tohimself 2016-05-27T13:16:29 < dongs> then going "thanks, ohsix" from the clone 2016-05-27T13:18:20 < Steffanx> But its too funny you have so much issues with him 2016-05-27T13:21:22 < Steffanx> I mean. The one and only trollcop with this kind of issues. Does not compute. 2016-05-27T13:25:22 * karlp laughs 2016-05-27T13:25:42 < karlp> ohsix is chatty, but it's not like flyback or titanmkd or artoocommie or anything. 2016-05-27T13:25:58 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T13:26:37 < dongs> lol titanmkd. 2016-05-27T13:26:44 < dongs> i'd say that one is way better than ohsix 2016-05-27T13:26:47 < dongs> cuz he acutally gets shit done 2016-05-27T13:30:51 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T13:31:25 < karlp> really :) it's absoutelyl essential that it have this feature :) 2016-05-27T13:31:36 < karlp> if x had y! that would be killer :) 2016-05-27T13:36:28 < Steffanx> ;) ;) ;) ;) 2016-05-27T13:41:44 < dongs> http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/application-note/an104f.pdf#page=16 .. lol 2016-05-27T13:46:07 < karlp> hehehe 2016-05-27T13:50:50 < Bright> dongs: JIM WILLIAMS +++ 2016-05-27T13:51:00 < Bright> rip 2016-05-27T13:51:51 < karlp> nice app note 2016-05-27T13:53:06 < karlp> LT was one of the places we went and stood outside of and had a photo when I moved to san ho 2016-05-27T13:54:03 < Bright> http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/application-note/an25fa.pdf#page=24 2016-05-27T14:05:43 -!- jaaq [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T14:17:00 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/IzqyKHz.png 2016-05-27T14:18:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T14:18:25 < karlp> hoho 2016-05-27T14:19:18 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T14:20:11 < Steffanx> LOL. 2016-05-27T14:22:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-27T14:26:26 < dongs> time to upgrade altidumb 16.1.8 2016-05-27T14:26:37 < dongs> maybe it fixes "eating 32gigs of ram while running draftsman" 2016-05-27T14:39:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-114-118.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-27T14:51:06 < jaaq> why do STM32 MCUs seem to get cheaper when the supply voltage goes down? 1.8V MCU is cheaper than 3.3V MCU? 2016-05-27T14:53:08 < __rob2> smaller process and cheaper to make maybe ? 2016-05-27T14:53:40 < __rob2> more chips on a wafer 2016-05-27T14:55:01 < jaaq> __rob2: thanks. make sense. 2016-05-27T14:55:15 < jaaq> do lower supply voltage means lower output current? 2016-05-27T14:56:39 < karlp> where are you getting your prices? 2016-05-27T14:56:43 < __rob2> means lower power for the same current 2016-05-27T14:56:58 < jaaq> karlp: element14 2016-05-27T14:57:04 < karlp> most of them will run on both, a few run on things down to 1.6v and you have to pay more for them, not less. 2016-05-27T14:57:34 < karlp> can you give me an example of a "cheap" 1.8v part number you're looking at? vs an "expensive" 3.3v part number? 2016-05-27T15:03:27 < Thorn> my korad has arrived 2016-05-27T15:03:36 < Thorn> ordered on apr 4 2016-05-27T15:05:09 < kakimir> I wonder if there is a way to renumber enumeration macros so that I could pass one enumeration on between numbers and have constant numbers like... 2016-05-27T15:05:43 < kakimir> such thing as automatic numberin in office 2016-05-27T15:06:24 < kakimir> or do I have to rewrite hundred numbers by hand to pass one more macro between 2016-05-27T15:06:34 < dongs> new 2016-05-27T15:06:37 < dongs> err, nice 2016-05-27T15:06:44 < dongs> assdroid6 update on my phone has DPI scaling 2016-05-27T15:06:51 < dongs> finally i can make shit on screen smaller so i can fit more of it 2016-05-27T15:07:00 < jpa-> kakimir: it will always continue numbering from one you specify 2016-05-27T15:07:20 < jpa-> so you can too enum foo {A, B, C, D, E=54, F=5, G, H, ...} 2016-05-27T15:07:34 < kakimir> I could 2016-05-27T15:08:02 < kakimir> just +1 no matter where the macro is actually added 2016-05-27T15:08:18 < kakimir> but I want it to be absolutelly clean 2016-05-27T15:08:32 < Thorn> why doesn't it remember the selected digit to be tweaked :/ you can easily dial +1V insteasd of +10mV 2016-05-27T15:09:28 < kakimir> aare you talkin about some rigol psu? 2016-05-27T15:09:43 < Thorn> korad ka3005d 2016-05-27T15:10:52 < karlp> oh st, your website is so busted 2016-05-27T15:11:02 < karlp> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/about/events/events.html/rfid---nfc-online-course.html?sp_rid=MTI0NjI1NjI3MDUzS0&sp_mid=12970025 has busted all thelinks to the parts they want you to have on hand. 2016-05-27T15:11:17 < kakimir> Thorn: not the very best money can buy? 2016-05-27T15:11:51 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-27T15:11:51 < Thorn> depends on the amount 2016-05-27T15:12:44 < Thorn> also strongest smell of china plastic I've ever experienced 2016-05-27T15:13:26 < Ultrasauce> the good ol' guangzhou musk 2016-05-27T15:13:58 < kakimir> it's straight out'a mold and shipped to you 2016-05-27T15:14:06 < Thorn> it could be felt even before unpacking. as if the package actually contained some organic solvent or something and it spilled 2016-05-27T15:25:01 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-27T15:26:06 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T15:26:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-114-118.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T15:35:45 < kakimir> chinese poison 2016-05-27T15:36:44 < kakimir> I sometimes wonder if there ever could be serious product safety concerns when you direct order from china 2016-05-27T15:37:20 < Ultrasauce> i got a fucking nasty cold after receiving a dealextreme order once 2016-05-27T15:38:55 < kakimir> direct correlance there 2016-05-27T15:39:07 < kakimir> chinese antharax 2016-05-27T15:39:43 < kakimir> not that there was seasonal flu 2016-05-27T15:45:59 < englishman> Thorn: cool, is that the one that dumps 30V on rail before settling to set voltage? 2016-05-27T15:48:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T15:56:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-27T15:58:07 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T16:00:40 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.237] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-27T16:02:08 < kakimir> can I add multiple operations to for loop for(;;this part)? 2016-05-27T16:02:38 < karlp> just like the first part, sure. 2016-05-27T16:02:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T16:02:54 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36396069 2016-05-27T16:03:06 < Laurenceb_> MI6 and and GCHQ advertised on the Mumsnet O_o 2016-05-27T16:03:24 < kakimir> like for(;;(i++;j++)) ? 2016-05-27T16:04:01 < Ultrasauce> comma operator 2016-05-27T16:04:19 < karlp> like for(i=1, j=45, kakimir="finnish"; strmpc("kakk", "fin") == 0; more = 45, blah = 99) 2016-05-27T16:04:32 < karlp> yeah, just saying comma would have been simpler. 2016-05-27T16:05:12 < Laurenceb_> lul put everything in the for 2016-05-27T16:05:17 < kakimir> oh omma 2016-05-27T16:05:28 < kakimir> I plan to 2016-05-27T16:05:36 < kakimir> compact code 2016-05-27T16:07:09 < karlp> s/compact/unmaintainable/g 2016-05-27T16:08:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-114-118.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-27T16:08:17 < kakimir> no just increment seperate counters 2016-05-27T16:08:29 < kakimir> 2 seperate 2016-05-27T16:09:24 < kakimir> can I use () or so to add like visual notification to it? 2016-05-27T16:12:25 < Ultrasauce> why are you asking instead of just trying it 2016-05-27T16:13:17 < kakimir> I trust you more 2016-05-27T16:13:33 < kakimir> okay no error there at least 2016-05-27T16:18:52 < Thorn> englishman: dunno lol. will look for transients later today 2016-05-27T16:23:44 < englishman> :-) 2016-05-27T16:25:32 < kakimir> if I have fixed length string then "nullterminatedstring" assertion to it works differently than with not fixed length string? 2016-05-27T16:26:18 < Laurenceb_> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1464313728110.png 2016-05-27T16:31:34 < kakimir> can I do assertion fixedstring = "nullterminatedstring"; ? 2016-05-27T16:31:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.57] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T16:32:45 < kakimir> or strncpy(fixedstring, "nullterminatedstring", 10) 2016-05-27T16:32:50 < Lux> new zano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lEgCHSOm8Y 2016-05-27T16:34:03 < kakimir> at least it's proper size 2016-05-27T16:34:47 < Lux> and apparently quite sophisticated for 350$ 2016-05-27T16:34:52 < Lux> chinese innovating 2016-05-27T16:35:49 < kakimir> does it have 4k video? 2016-05-27T16:36:29 < Lux> it has a snapdragon 801, so yes 2016-05-27T16:36:52 < Lux> at least that hardware is capable of 4k iirc 2016-05-27T16:37:12 < kakimir> no stm32 piss there 2016-05-27T16:37:26 < kakimir> real mobile piss is being utilized 2016-05-27T16:37:57 < kakimir> does it have mobile networking? 2016-05-27T16:38:01 < kakimir> just wifi? 2016-05-27T16:38:02 < Lux> http://www.i4u.com/2016/05/110913/zerotech-dobby-selfie-drone-takes-hover-camera 2016-05-27T16:40:56 < kakimir> how many years to drone weapons? 2016-05-27T16:41:59 < Ultrasauce> uh 2016-05-27T16:42:25 < Ultrasauce> about -70 2016-05-27T16:43:29 < Ultrasauce> yup depending on your definition the v2 almost certainly fits 2016-05-27T16:43:42 < kakimir> zanobombs 2016-05-27T16:43:50 < kakimir> automatic antiterror 2016-05-27T16:44:13 < kakimir> one time drones 2016-05-27T16:44:17 < kakimir> - zano 2016-05-27T16:47:18 < Laurenceb_> <crt> zano got steamrolled 2016-05-27T16:47:24 < Laurenceb_> no zano was just utter fail 2016-05-27T16:48:41 < kakimir> scam hard 2016-05-27T16:50:00 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: do you do as English youngster that illegal rave party + drugs thing? 2016-05-27T16:50:52 < Laurenceb_> no I'm too nerdy 2016-05-27T16:52:02 < kakimir> it seems like half a nation is absolutelly wasted 2016-05-27T16:52:11 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-27T16:52:30 < kakimir> what the decent people do to stay like.. entertained 2016-05-27T16:52:35 < Ultrasauce> just like most finns are under the influence of liquorice pipes 2016-05-27T16:52:49 < Laurenceb_> I refuse to believe this is real http://i.huffpost.com/gen/615426/thumbs/o-DAVID-CAMERON-570.jpg?5 2016-05-27T16:53:05 < kakimir> Ultrasauce: especially kids! 2016-05-27T16:53:12 < Laurenceb_> davidcameronbeingsexy.tumblr.com 2016-05-27T16:53:13 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-27T16:53:44 < karlp> just had a 10 minute stop work discussion about licorice candies, and what eveyrone thinks of a new version of an old favourite released. 2016-05-27T16:53:53 < karlp> stupid scandies and their salty licorice shits 2016-05-27T16:54:04 < Ultrasauce> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5fQZhv0poU related 2016-05-27T16:55:52 < kakimir> it's good there are professionals doing public image for us 2016-05-27T16:56:08 < Ultrasauce> ya you cant do all the work after all 2016-05-27T16:57:16 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYD-cDd_Gs typical people from lapland 2016-05-27T16:57:24 < englishman> Laurenceb_: whos the guy with the shitty haircut 2016-05-27T16:57:30 < englishman> and why is this photo hard to believe 2016-05-27T16:57:39 < englishman> gunz are illegal in uk therefore nobody has them 2016-05-27T16:58:36 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xelnnwgrtuhimihh] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T16:58:37 < kakimir> if there was gunz the nation would be in ruins in no time 2016-05-27T16:59:23 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T17:03:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-27T17:15:36 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/dgU16hE.jpg 2016-05-27T17:16:28 < Laurenceb_> inb4 a riot 2016-05-27T17:16:39 < dongs> speaking of riots 2016-05-27T17:16:41 < dongs> or ritots 2016-05-27T17:16:55 < dongs> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ritot-the-first-projection-watch#/updates 2016-05-27T17:16:56 < dongs> haha 2016-05-27T17:17:02 < dongs> Our tests found that in the case of some parameters, the temperature of the LED leads to a situation when we feel uncomfortable temperature. 2016-05-27T17:17:17 < dongs> translation: beaming a bright fucking beam of shit produces heat 2016-05-27T17:17:29 < dongs> who woulda thought 2016-05-27T17:17:38 < Laurenceb_> hmm 2016-05-27T17:17:46 < Laurenceb_> LED death rays when 2016-05-27T17:18:11 < Laurenceb_> designated LED watch 2016-05-27T17:18:35 < Laurenceb_> LED armed crabs with propane 2016-05-27T17:18:49 < dongs> https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1461154403/xlbj65dli2jqrpymzowu.png 2016-05-27T17:18:53 < dongs> It is evident that with every step, we come closer to the final prototype of the optical unit. 2016-05-27T17:18:56 < dongs> We will continue to work on optics and image correction. 2016-05-27T17:21:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T17:31:54 < dongs> https://dropfile.to/rGlc5hK nice draftsman pdf export 2016-05-27T17:32:03 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-27T17:34:57 < upgrdman> god damn, i've already used 10GB this month on my phone 2016-05-27T17:35:08 < dongs> stop looking at gay porno 2016-05-27T17:35:12 < upgrdman> lol 2016-05-27T17:35:16 < dongs> i never use > 1gb 2016-05-27T17:35:25 < upgrdman> i rarely use >2GB 2016-05-27T17:35:26 < upgrdman> but 2016-05-27T17:35:26 < dongs> unless some assholes come over and ask me to use hotspot 2016-05-27T17:35:27 < upgrdman> i 2016-05-27T17:35:39 < upgrdman> i've been tethering my pc 2016-05-27T17:36:24 < Thorn> yota.ru: fully unlimited lte for $3.5/mo 2016-05-27T17:36:33 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/p7sgaS5.png you can see when assholes were hotspotting 2016-05-27T17:36:57 < Thorn> nice font 2016-05-27T17:37:01 < dongs> thank you 2016-05-27T17:37:14 < dongs> i always get compliments on it. 2016-05-27T17:38:46 < dongs> draftsman stuff is really unoptimized tho in altidumb 2016-05-27T17:38:57 < dongs> opening even a super simple thing pegs one core for a few seconds 2016-05-27T17:39:01 < dongs> (thanks, delphi) 2016-05-27T17:39:28 < dongs> stoning? 2016-05-27T17:42:09 < Steffanx> Dont leave me. 2016-05-27T17:43:01 < Ultrasauce> its ok steffan i'm here 2016-05-27T17:43:52 < Steffanx> \o/ 2016-05-27T17:50:44 < aandrew> lol at adding a current limit resistor instead of modulating the output and not burning up the energy into heat in a resistor 2016-05-27T17:53:24 < Ultrasauce> well tbf they're using a DMD or whatever and you could get some horrible intermodulation if it was done wrong 2016-05-27T17:56:01 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-27T17:56:02 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/4lOAHgN.gifv 2016-05-27T17:57:09 < Ultrasauce> i dont think i'm cool enough to own that case 2016-05-27T17:58:02 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKbzR1NmJkQzhUbjg/view?usp=sharing a bit sluggish use of 3G 2016-05-27T17:58:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-27T17:59:11 < kakimir> like 30GB in week 2016-05-27T17:59:24 < kakimir> 100-120GB a month 2016-05-27T18:15:23 < Steffanx> wut. 2016-05-27T18:15:30 < Steffanx> is 3g all you have? 2016-05-27T18:17:53 < kakimir> in uncrowded forrest it actually works how they promise it to 2016-05-27T18:18:23 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T18:40:19 -!- seshi [25c4b7dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.196.183.221] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T18:40:43 < seshi> I am new to stm32 2016-05-27T18:40:58 < seshi> Can some one suggest me a good guide to study free rtos 2016-05-27T18:41:01 < seshi> on stm32 2016-05-27T18:43:38 < Laurenceb_> ChibiOS 2016-05-27T18:47:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T18:49:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T18:52:39 < upgrdman> heh, figure out my MS5611 problem. i swapped the interrupt pins for the baro and the gyro/accel. fail. 2016-05-27T18:53:07 < upgrdman> damn, i need to be more super pro. this is getting maker-level bad. 2016-05-27T19:07:53 -!- seshi [25c4b7dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.196.183.221] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-27T19:09:35 < Laurenceb_> why is failfox using 50% cpu 2016-05-27T19:09:37 < Laurenceb_> whyyyy 2016-05-27T19:11:29 < Steffanx> too much porn tabs. 2016-05-27T19:11:33 < Steffanx> flash is heavy. 2016-05-27T19:13:05 -!- jaaq [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-27T19:13:16 < PeterM> firefox sucks for flash heavy porno 2016-05-27T19:13:28 < PeterM> after like 5 tabs shit slows to a crawl 2016-05-27T19:13:45 < PeterM> chrome you can do like 100 on a shitty computer 2016-05-27T19:13:58 < PeterM> just gotta have the boatloads of ram 2016-05-27T19:14:37 < Rob235> yea I just switched to chrome from firefox. it's nice having a ton of tabs open and usable 2016-05-27T19:15:09 < Rob235> 11 more leds to cut out... 2016-05-27T19:16:11 < PeterM> chrome wil lrun fine provided oyu have the ram 2016-05-27T19:16:25 < PeterM> firefox will always run like a dog even if you have the ram 2016-05-27T19:16:29 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUYCu08jn34 music spam timemachine 2016-05-27T19:17:02 < karlp> why not cars and shit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er416Ad3R1g&feature=youtu.be 2016-05-27T19:19:09 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuQxoQx1Fgs why not disco 2016-05-27T19:21:47 < kakimir> 70's is not cool at the moment 2016-05-27T19:23:48 < PeterM> cooler than 2004 2016-05-27T19:24:57 < englishman> whats flash 2016-05-27T19:25:01 < englishman> oh that dead macromedia thing 2016-05-27T19:25:23 < englishman> ooh carpenter brut 2016-05-27T19:29:16 < englishman> how many miura are there in iceland 2016-05-27T19:30:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-27T19:30:23 < karlp> miura the little mazdas? mx2 or whatever they're also called? 2016-05-27T19:30:43 < englishman> no the lambo 2016-05-27T19:31:02 < PeterM> probably 0 2016-05-27T19:31:03 < karlp> umm, probably none. 2016-05-27T19:31:10 < englishman> safe bet 2016-05-27T19:31:27 < karlp> there's some dude in selfoss with some sort of lambo, he was trying to get the city to grind down some speed bumps or something 2016-05-27T19:31:31 < karlp> he couldn't drive it anywhere 2016-05-27T19:31:35 < karlp> fucking country rednecks 2016-05-27T19:31:42 < englishman> heh 2016-05-27T19:31:51 < englishman> tehres one in video @ 2:51 is all. 2016-05-27T19:32:06 < karlp> expensive cars here tends to go more into jeeps rahter than sports cars 2016-05-27T19:32:51 < karlp> PeterM: that's bad disco. give us more good disco like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19X-g5jHRzI 2016-05-27T19:32:58 < PeterM> iirc there were about 700 miuras built 2016-05-27T19:33:44 -!- [VEGETA] [~VEGETA-SS@188.247.78.206] has left ##stm32 ["Until we meet again...!"] 2016-05-27T19:34:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-27T19:34:54 < PeterM> thats some pretty funky shit karlp 2016-05-27T19:36:05 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KippOtDVa4 2016-05-27T19:37:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-27T19:37:04 < karlp> good year 79. last of the big v8s... 2016-05-27T19:38:05 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T19:43:01 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T19:48:28 < PeterM> i sorta get the appeal of big v8s, but these days they jsut dont make sense 2016-05-27T19:49:16 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-27T19:50:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T19:50:23 < karlp> was thinking more of this actually: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDLeo4lcCg 2016-05-27T19:50:43 < karlp> (same year) 2016-05-27T19:50:43 < PeterM> ahh lol 2016-05-27T19:51:14 < karlp> also my birth year! whee 2016-05-27T19:51:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T19:51:43 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T19:54:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-27T19:54:35 < PeterM> ive got a few mates with big v8s in shitty utes - they sound great, and when you put oyur foot down, you stand stil land hte earth spins under you, but thats about all they're good for. ive got a straight six with a snail, gets decent fuel economy when you want it to and has more than enough power, not as much torque, but still shedloads 2016-05-27T19:54:39 < Steffanx> so did the spacex thing go Laurenceb_? 2016-05-27T19:55:12 < Laurenceb_> nope, its delayed until tonight 2016-05-27T19:56:27 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/A0BJPJs.png 2016-05-27T19:56:53 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T19:59:33 < karlp> what's "with a snail" mean? 2016-05-27T19:59:38 < karlp> intercooler? 2016-05-27T20:00:23 < PeterM> turbocharger 2016-05-27T20:01:34 < PeterM> http://www.factzoo.com/sites/all/img/invertebrates/mollusks/snail-sun.jpg http://www.himni-racing.com/images/T_series%20T3%2060%20trim.jpg 2016-05-27T20:01:44 < karlp> yar. 2016-05-27T20:04:31 < Laurenceb_> Mollusk! 2016-05-27T20:04:36 < Laurenceb_> 8chan confirmed 2016-05-27T20:05:20 < PeterM> inb4 /ignore +laurenceb_ 2016-05-27T20:07:17 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-27T20:14:22 < englishman> shedloads m8 2016-05-27T20:19:25 < kakimir> m8 2016-05-27T20:19:59 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-27T20:24:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-27T20:27:42 < Laurenceb_> yall posting in a mollusk thread 2016-05-27T20:29:07 < PeterM> fyad 2016-05-27T20:39:52 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-27T20:46:36 < englishman> did tall know i have a triple core intercooler 2016-05-27T20:46:37 < englishman> a real one 2016-05-27T20:46:49 < englishman> not like vin diezel 2016-05-27T20:50:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.57] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T20:53:07 < englishman> http://s19.postimg.org/h1j2tfq5v/p3060671.jpg 2016-05-27T20:54:44 < PeterM> shes not a looker but she'll do the job 2016-05-27T20:54:56 < englishman> it do 2016-05-27T20:54:57 < englishman> http://s19.postimg.org/j7ddnxtmb/img00086.jpg 2016-05-27T20:56:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T20:58:37 < PeterM> noice 2016-05-27T21:00:08 < PeterM> iv got a stock fpv fg f6 in my car from when i did the swap http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq184/NVYDF6/2011-01-18_185132.jpg <-not mine but same unit 2016-05-27T21:00:59 < englishman> v8 country 2016-05-27T21:02:13 < PeterM> not quite 2016-05-27T21:02:51 < PeterM> 4L straihgt 6 2016-05-27T21:03:14 < PeterM> just shy of 300 killerwasps 2016-05-27T21:07:45 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-27T21:08:55 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-27T21:11:38 < kakimir> fucken EGR can I throw it away? 2016-05-27T21:12:31 < kakimir> 1.9TDI 2001 VW 2016-05-27T21:14:05 < englishman> output measured in kW.... ozzies 2016-05-27T21:14:28 < kakimir> I wonder if there is software that ruins everything when valve is thrown away 2016-05-27T21:14:38 < englishman> kakimir theres some electronic fuckery to delete it and not get an engine code 2016-05-27T21:14:45 < englishman> tbh i dont remember that was 15 years ago :> 2016-05-27T21:14:48 < englishman> check vwvortex lol 2016-05-27T21:14:57 < kakimir> vwcortex thx 2016-05-27T21:15:07 < kakimir> you had like new car then? 2016-05-27T21:15:29 < kakimir> what is your brand today? 2016-05-27T21:15:29 < englishman> no but i broke em 2016-05-27T21:15:42 < englishman> still have a 2006 golf tdi 2016-05-27T21:15:47 < englishman> just 100,000 km 2016-05-27T21:16:08 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T21:16:29 < englishman> volvo xc70 for winter 2016-05-27T21:17:11 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T21:17:12 < englishman> brought this guy cross country last year, to drive this summer, had it since i was 13 http://i.imgur.com/daeztn0.jpg 2016-05-27T21:18:49 < PeterM> englishman, not aussies, any person who uses metric 2016-05-27T21:20:15 < englishman> just ozzies then? cuz nobody cares about power output of fiat punto or the latest keicar 2016-05-27T21:20:24 < kakimir> local dude costs around 1000euros to handcraft program to dieselds 2016-05-27T21:21:17 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-27T21:23:21 < PeterM> englishman, probably 2016-05-27T21:24:35 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/fQsQWGA.jpg this is my car the first day i bought it, was $4500 AUD about 5 years ago 2016-05-27T21:24:54 < PeterM> pretty avg lookin 2016-05-27T21:25:02 < PeterM> but not bad for $4500 2016-05-27T21:26:01 < Rob235> what is it? it looks like an intrigue, jetta, and subaru rolled into one? I can't place it 2016-05-27T21:26:06 < kakimir> now it's 1500? 2016-05-27T21:26:19 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T21:26:22 < kakimir> is it australian car? 2016-05-27T21:26:30 < PeterM> about a year after i got it, a local bloke got in an accident and wrote off his top-of-the-line-performance model, i picked up basically the entire pwoertrain for another $4500 2016-05-27T21:26:35 < PeterM> strayan 2016-05-27T21:26:36 < kakimir> that crazy thing they made one model 2016-05-27T21:27:05 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Falcon_(BA) 2016-05-27T21:27:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-27T21:27:46 < kakimir> australians had even their own car brand 2016-05-27T21:28:19 < PeterM> >ford 2016-05-27T21:28:22 < kakimir> holden 2016-05-27T21:28:22 < englishman> thats a falcon! 2016-05-27T21:28:24 < PeterM> >own brand 2016-05-27T21:28:27 < englishman> long way from mad maxs 2016-05-27T21:28:30 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden 2016-05-27T21:29:01 < PeterM> true 2016-05-27T21:29:16 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden#/media/File:2008_Commodore_SS_V8_02.jpg ricer 2016-05-27T21:30:15 < PeterM> >ricer >5.7L V8 2016-05-27T21:31:37 < kakimir> insane 2016-05-27T21:32:02 < PeterM> tbh thats pretty civil compared to the murcan and their 7L v8s 2016-05-27T21:33:22 < kakimir> yes 2016-05-27T21:33:33 < PeterM> they're pretty bad on fuel, but not as bad as you would expect, like 8L/100km (12.5km/L) 2016-05-27T21:34:11 < kakimir> it's not totally uncommon to have figures like 3litres today 2016-05-27T21:34:33 < PeterM> if yeah, butthats for cars that dont weight close to 1800kg 2016-05-27T21:34:34 < kakimir> and still have some +150hp 2016-05-27T21:34:51 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adebb.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T21:35:28 < kakimir> I think that 5.7litre v8 needs some turbo to it 2016-05-27T21:35:35 < kakimir> to really lite up 2016-05-27T21:35:42 < PeterM> nah, not turbs 2016-05-27T21:36:59 < PeterM> ususally you put a supercharger, much better at lower RPM, and no spool up 2016-05-27T21:38:23 < kakimir> if it's about slight to modest tune 2016-05-27T21:38:45 < kakimir> not the beast setup 2016-05-27T21:47:53 < Ecco> Hey 2016-05-27T21:47:57 < PeterM> if it was abotu slgiht to modest tune you'd jsut NA tune it, and then cut out as much weight as you can 2016-05-27T21:48:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T21:48:06 < Ecco> What entry-level scope would you guys recommend? 2016-05-27T21:48:13 < Ecco> Same question for a multimeter 2016-05-27T21:48:35 < upgrdman> what do you need from the scope 2016-05-27T21:48:36 < PeterM> how much money is "entry level" 2016-05-27T21:48:36 < Ecco> Regarding the scope, I'm eyeing the DS1052E 2016-05-27T21:48:43 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-27T21:48:50 < upgrdman> get the z whatever for $500 2016-05-27T21:48:56 < upgrdman> dz someshit 2016-05-27T21:49:01 < upgrdman> the newish model from them 2016-05-27T21:49:01 < kakimir> englishman: number of channels? 2 or 4? 2016-05-27T21:49:02 < Ecco> upgrdman: I don't really know yet. I know it's a valuable tool to have around, so I'd like to get one 2016-05-27T21:49:03 < PeterM> but yeah ds1054z for $500 2016-05-27T21:49:19 < Ecco> DS1054Z 2016-05-27T21:49:21 < upgrdman> Ecco, i'd say wait until you need it, and save to buy the best you can afford 2016-05-27T21:49:40 < PeterM> a good dmm and psu will cover a lot 2016-05-27T21:49:42 < upgrdman> as a beginner you might be happy with 2ch 100mhz 2016-05-27T21:49:43 < upgrdman> in a year 2016-05-27T21:49:48 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-27T21:49:53 < upgrdman> you might feel crippled and want 4ch 300mhz 2016-05-27T21:49:55 < upgrdman> etc 2016-05-27T21:49:59 < Ecco> I see 2016-05-27T21:50:13 < kakimir> siglent sds1000 series is worth checking out 2016-05-27T21:50:22 < PeterM> not really 2016-05-27T21:50:29 < upgrdman> to be honest, i really like my Analog Discovery and its cheap for what it does 2016-05-27T21:50:29 < englishman> kakimir: 4ch is like $300 why less? 2016-05-27T21:50:30 < Ecco> But it's also the kind of stuff where you have to start with one, and eventually you realise how it's limited and you know what to look for in your next purchase 2016-05-27T21:50:33 < upgrdman> but its very low bandwidth 2016-05-27T21:50:40 < upgrdman> so like great for learning but not for real use 2016-05-27T21:51:02 < PeterM> ecco where abouts i nthe world are you 2016-05-27T21:51:07 < Ecco> I've read that Rigol scopes could be reflashed with a higher model firmware 2016-05-27T21:51:08 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUz3KYp_5Tc 2016-05-27T21:51:14 < Ecco> Peter Europe 2016-05-27T21:51:17 < PeterM> i mean, can you ebay/craigslist/whatever a 2nd hand shitscope 2016-05-27T21:51:24 < Ecco> Yeah, I could do that 2016-05-27T21:51:38 < Ecco> But well, a brand new one at €270 doesn't seem like a bad deal 2016-05-27T21:51:43 < PeterM> get a 2nd hand shitscope for $50 and when it pisses you off too much buy whatever you need 2016-05-27T21:52:01 < Ecco> Makes a lot of sense 2016-05-27T21:52:03 < Ecco> Good advice 2016-05-27T21:52:13 < PeterM> you dont know what you need until you need it 2016-05-27T21:52:19 < Ecco> Yeah, but to know I need it 2016-05-27T21:52:20 < Ecco> I have to get one 2016-05-27T21:52:26 < PeterM> exactly 2016-05-27T21:52:33 < kakimir> het that rigol entry level turd from years back 2016-05-27T21:52:37 < Ecco> And I'd like to avoid a too crapy one 2016-05-27T21:52:40 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-27T21:52:48 < Ecco> Thanks :) 2016-05-27T21:52:57 < Ecco> So in terms of brand (just so I know which ones to look) 2016-05-27T21:53:13 < Ecco> Rigol apparently is pretty good, isn't it? Are there any other brand I could purchase? 2016-05-27T21:53:23 < Ecco> (brb) 2016-05-27T21:54:20 < PeterM> rigol is a "safe" bet 2016-05-27T21:54:31 < kakimir> internet doesn't even know the old rigol entry level anymore 2016-05-27T21:54:40 < kakimir> it's all about DS1054 2016-05-27T21:54:43 < PeterM> they're cheap chiense, but not quite chinese junk 2016-05-27T21:55:35 < kakimir> after they fix some issues with that siglent it's gona be killer 2016-05-27T21:55:52 < kakimir> one in video 2016-05-27T21:56:21 < PeterM> as for dmm, depends on money again. 2016-05-27T21:56:23 < PeterM> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/multimeter-spreadsheet/ 2016-05-27T21:56:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.57] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-27T21:57:58 < kakimir> jesus 2016-05-27T21:58:17 < kakimir> someone has done jubs on multimeters 2016-05-27T22:02:36 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T22:18:55 < englishman> Lol, wow. 2016-05-27T22:19:15 < englishman> Hm all handheld tho. 2016-05-27T22:23:15 < Ecco> Also, I think I could definitely use a DC power supply 2016-05-27T22:23:34 < Ecco> as in, something you plug in a wall outlet and that can output 2.8V, 3.3V, 5V, 12V 2016-05-27T22:23:49 < Ecco> with decent current (up to let's say 2A) 2016-05-27T22:24:25 < Rob235> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u1nbw1f93kwuuy/20160527_152129_1991.mp4?dl=0 2016-05-27T22:25:36 < Ecco> Nice Hakko 888D :-) 2016-05-27T22:25:59 < Rob235> :) 2016-05-27T22:26:14 < Ecco> Also what about Tektronix (for scopes) 2016-05-27T22:26:18 < Ecco> are they any good? 2016-05-27T22:26:38 < Rob235> cant help ya there 2016-05-27T22:35:55 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-27T22:52:54 < englishman> Ecco: if you want cheap, you can hack up a computer psu 2016-05-27T22:53:06 < englishman> if you want slightly less cheap, 30v 5a bench psus are like $100 2016-05-27T22:53:14 < englishman> then you get current limiting and stuff 2016-05-27T22:53:30 < Ecco> oh yeah that I could definitely use 2016-05-27T22:53:35 < Ecco> Any model you'd recommend? 2016-05-27T22:54:24 < englishman> not really they are all china shit 2016-05-27T22:54:27 < Ecco> ok 2016-05-27T22:54:39 < englishman> model next to me is hantek pps2116a 2016-05-27T22:55:40 < Ecco> Yeah, that seems great 2016-05-27T22:55:41 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-05-27T22:56:28 < englishman> no prob 2016-05-27T22:56:37 < englishman> i like it, it works, doesnt spam voltage rail with 30v on start 2016-05-27T22:56:51 < Ecco> Wait, some do? 2016-05-27T22:57:41 < Sync> yes 2016-05-27T22:57:45 < Ecco> Oo 2016-05-27T22:57:57 < Sync> some also spike if you go from CV to CC 2016-05-27T22:58:06 < Ecco> :-/ 2016-05-27T23:31:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-1cb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T23:36:39 -!- Emil [fihlmae1@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-legbjhzabmkkqcuv] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-27T23:36:40 < Emil> Hi 2016-05-27T23:37:06 < Emil> What's the recommended way to use a (clone) segger j-link with stm32(f103c8t6) 2016-05-27T23:41:13 < englishman> plug in, click debug? 2016-05-27T23:41:37 < Fleck> :D 2016-05-27T23:41:57 < Fleck> I don't understand the q. also 2016-05-27T23:42:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-27T23:43:31 < Emil> englishman: the problem is that 2016-05-27T23:43:41 < Emil> openocd -f interface/jlink.cfg -f target/stm32f1x.cfg gives errors 2016-05-27T23:43:56 < Emil> (but the equivalent with st-link doesn't) 2016-05-27T23:44:00 < englishman> ah openocd, good luck. 2016-05-27T23:44:02 < Emil> (v2) 2016-05-27T23:44:12 < Emil> englishman: yeah, but I am willing to move away from openocd :D 2016-05-27T23:44:20 < Emil> I just need a convenient way to upload code 2016-05-27T23:44:46 < Emil> so what do you use with (clone) segger jlinks to upload code? 2016-05-27T23:45:08 < englishman> keil mdk-arm 2016-05-27T23:45:33 < englishman> and segger drivers 2016-05-27T23:45:45 < Emil> englishman: installed the segger debs, nothing yet 2016-05-27T23:45:45 < englishman> well, if i had any clones, id use those tools 2016-05-27T23:45:58 < Emil> and I'm looking for commandline solutions 2016-05-27T23:46:02 < englishman> debs? 2016-05-27T23:46:25 < englishman> commandline solution sounds like an oxymoron 2016-05-27T23:47:00 < englishman> i'm sure some linux pro in this chan will be along to help you shortly, have fun 2016-05-27T23:47:08 < Emil> englishman: some would simply recommend some gui or ide with a fuckton of bloat 2016-05-27T23:47:11 < Emil> like eclipse 2016-05-27T23:47:32 < Emil> englishman: anycase, thanks 2016-05-27T23:47:58 < englishman> yes good luck, some people here are using linux, they can likely help you out. --- Day changed Sat May 28 2016 2016-05-28T00:04:40 < Emil> ohsix: link? 2016-05-28T00:08:42 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-28T00:11:05 < upgrdman> Emil, theres #openocd, theyre nice poeple 2016-05-28T00:11:26 < upgrdman> also one of two of their devs are in here, so if you wait a few hours they might reply when they no longer afk 2016-05-28T00:12:15 < Emil> upgrdman: thanks! The point is that openocd is by no means a necessity for me 2016-05-28T00:12:57 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-28T00:15:11 < Emil> so I'm wondering what tools do you use 2016-05-28T00:18:53 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T00:21:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-28T00:23:05 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@142-165-132-47.sktn.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T00:51:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T01:15:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-1cb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T01:26:36 -!- efuentes [~efuentes@38.104.218.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-28T01:39:28 < Laurenceb_> http://hackaday.com/2016/05/27/federico-musto-of-arduino-srl-shows-new-arm-based-arduino-boards/ 2016-05-28T01:39:35 < Laurenceb_> that actually looks quite hawt 2016-05-28T01:59:06 < jadew> I wonder if in 10-20 years this will be like... a technology that people will put on their CV 2016-05-28T01:59:43 < jadew> "Worked with Arduino since it first started." 2016-05-28T02:18:17 < kakimir> I wonder if in 20years current skills are any relevance 2016-05-28T02:19:15 < englishman> 20yrs experience with windows ME 2016-05-28T02:19:26 < kakimir> like writing C 2016-05-28T02:19:56 < kakimir> building circuit boards 2016-05-28T02:20:04 < kakimir> and designing 2016-05-28T02:20:42 < kakimir> I bet it goes even more integrated 2016-05-28T02:25:33 < jadew> looking forward to it 2016-05-28T02:26:15 < jadew> but I'm not in a rush hehe 2016-05-28T02:29:00 < jadew> heh, I just finished making a little voltage standard and by the time I finished making the label its value changed lol 2016-05-28T02:29:20 < jadew> I was about to glue it on 2016-05-28T02:47:03 < jadew> and it looks like my brymen 867 is within spec, but definitely not exceeding it 2016-05-28T02:47:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T02:47:27 < jadew> 0.028% and it's specced at 0.03% 2016-05-28T02:47:50 < jadew> I wonder if they first make them and then based on how well they do they brand them as 869 or 867 2016-05-28T02:50:28 < jadew> 869 has 0.02% accuracy 2016-05-28T02:51:38 < jadew> I can see that being reached through sheer chance 2016-05-28T03:03:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-28T03:09:10 < Laurenceb_> 30 years experience of win 95 2016-05-28T03:09:48 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-28T03:10:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T03:10:16 < jadew> I'm asuming that it could morph into something that would be widely used in the industry 2016-05-28T03:11:34 < jadew> like java, you teach it to enough newbies, it eventually makes its way into the professional market and you can't get rid of it anymore 2016-05-28T03:12:18 < jadew> my standard's value changed again... 2016-05-28T03:12:28 < jadew> I wonder if the meter changed or the standard 2016-05-28T03:13:53 < jadew> I guess I'll have to change the label 2016-05-28T03:14:10 < jadew> or maybe I should age it first 2016-05-28T03:23:55 < jadew> that's nice 2016-05-28T03:27:12 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-28T03:39:49 < Laurenceb_> java is horrible :S 2016-05-28T03:40:04 < Laurenceb_> even ruby is better than java 2016-05-28T03:59:26 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adebb.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-28T04:00:44 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39772.msg1540545#msg1540545 2016-05-28T04:00:49 < Laurenceb_> scamming inbound 2016-05-28T04:02:52 < Thorn> what is wrong with java, it's perfectly usable 2016-05-28T04:02:58 < Thorn> try php sometime 2016-05-28T04:03:36 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-05-28T04:05:05 < Thorn> ohsix: actually the most smelly thing appears to be a dessicant bag 2016-05-28T04:05:42 < Thorn> I though silica gel has no smell 2016-05-28T04:06:00 < Thorn> maybe it absorbed the smell from the psu? 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2016-05-28T05:32:12 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/U2M4Kzk 2016-05-28T05:40:25 < Emil> upgrdman: silly, while(alive){functions ... ;} is much more positive 2016-05-28T05:47:43 < Emil> ohsix: not yet and errors are 2016-05-28T05:48:10 < Emil> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3d52be53a38d09b220dc78336c5f4be4 2016-05-28T05:49:01 < Emil> ohsix: stlink works 2016-05-28T05:49:46 < Emil> ohsix: using openocd is by no means a necessity. I just need a quick and easy way to upload code to the board. (My stlink programmer is actually just an st32f4 discovery :D) 2016-05-28T05:50:02 < Emil> and the (clone) segger jlink is small and nice to use 2016-05-28T05:53:14 < Emil> ohsix: Yeah, I'm sure it's connected correctly. There's always the possibility that the clone board is toast but I hope not 2016-05-28T05:55:40 < Emil> error: debug adapter doesn't support any transports? 2016-05-28T05:55:53 < Emil> With stlink and openocd it worked just fine without any additional commands 2016-05-28T05:57:34 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node18.8.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 2016-05-28T06:03:39 < upgrdman> hla==? 2016-05-28T06:03:52 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-28T06:10:19 < Emil> ohsix: have you used the jlink's own tools? 2016-05-28T06:10:41 < Emil> Ohwell :D 2016-05-28T06:10:51 < Emil> I have one coming up on Ebay already ; ) 2016-05-28T06:12:44 < Emil> ohsix: Care to answer another question? 2016-05-28T06:12:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8502:5430:c21:9b2f:a1b4:8ba6] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T06:15:48 < Emil> ohsix: do you know of a good usb bootloader that also supports seamless transition to a serial device? 2016-05-28T06:16:10 < Emil> So I could program and send data through one usb port 2016-05-28T06:17:12 < Emil> so that it wouldn't have to enumerate again when jumping to application code (which is a fucking pain, at least with atmega32u4) 2016-05-28T06:17:47 < Emil> Yeah, it's pretty much just different endpoints from what I understand of the usb spec 2016-05-28T06:19:42 < Emil> But I don't need the point and drag flashing (even if that is pretty great and I don't think it would work on stm32f103c8t6), just that it wouldn't enumerate every fuckin time 2016-05-28T06:20:38 < Emil> Yeah, I thought it was the stlink thingy that did multiple things 2016-05-28T06:20:42 < Emil> instead of the main chip 2016-05-28T06:21:10 < Emil> Another question: do you have a command line development setup? If so, could you share? 2016-05-28T06:22:22 < Emil> I'd rather not use the serial port on the device because that would mean carrying one all the time with me 2016-05-28T06:22:36 < Emil> And would render the usb port on the device useless 2016-05-28T06:22:43 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-28T06:22:57 < Emil> because I could do everything through the serial port then 2016-05-28T06:23:37 < Emil> My stm32s are the cheap bluepill models 2016-05-28T06:32:10 < Emil> ohsix: what development environment do you use with them? 2016-05-28T06:32:58 < Emil> so your favourite editor and then commandline tools to upload, right? 2016-05-28T06:33:26 < Emil> Could you share those scripts and so on? 2016-05-28T06:39:25 < Emil> thank you! 2016-05-28T06:39:30 < Emil> For helping me out : ) 2016-05-28T06:42:18 < englishman> Laurenceb_: lolwat 2016-05-28T06:42:38 < englishman> Isn't that several billion times any reported emdrive thrusts 2016-05-28T07:08:54 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-28T07:13:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T07:15:47 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T07:19:12 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-28T07:19:18 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-28T07:34:48 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-28T07:35:11 < upgrdman> so sometimes if i reset my stm32f0, an i2c device keeps one of the i2c lines low. and it wont release it. 2016-05-28T07:35:48 < upgrdman> is there something i need to do when init'ing the i2c periph? like a way to send an ack or nack or start or stop or whatever the fuck the i2c slave needs to release? 2016-05-28T07:41:57 < Thorn> does your slave have a reset pin? 2016-05-28T08:00:47 < upgrdman> nope :( 2016-05-28T08:00:56 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-28T08:01:30 < upgrdman> im using the gpio pull-ups. maybe i should try real resistors. perhaps the pins floating during reset is fucking with the slaves. 2016-05-28T08:39:28 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T08:51:57 < dongs> upgrdman: yeah man, the i2cunstick clockout 2016-05-28T08:51:59 < dongs> do that 2016-05-28T08:52:05 < dongs> set pins to gpio, od 2016-05-28T08:52:10 < dongs> clock out scl 10 times 2016-05-28T08:52:13 < dongs> in a for loop 2016-05-28T08:52:16 < dongs> then start i2c comms. 2016-05-28T08:53:02 < dongs> https://github.com/multiwii/baseflight/blob/master/src/drv_i2c.c#L346 2016-05-28T09:08:58 < emeb_mac> was he being a tool as usual? 2016-05-28T09:33:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8502:5430:c21:9b2f:a1b4:8ba6] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-28T09:34:12 < dongs> oh, i missed spacex not failing again yesterday 2016-05-28T09:37:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T09:37:47 < emeb_mac> no boom. so boring 2016-05-28T09:42:02 < Steffanx> so the ad was taken down shortly after you posted it here ohsix :P 2016-05-28T09:42:43 < Steffanx> The totally scammy one. 2016-05-28T09:44:18 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-28T09:49:27 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T09:55:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.160] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T10:03:43 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xelnnwgrtuhimihh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-28T10:06:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/RGB-CGA-Composite-Video-HDMI/ hey an interesting prpoject but lol budget 2016-05-28T10:14:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-28T10:45:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T10:47:46 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adebb.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T10:50:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T10:55:11 < dongs> cool, anomalisa bd is out 2016-05-28T11:06:06 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-28T11:11:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-8bebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T11:15:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.65] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T11:19:21 -!- rcc [~razvan@86.124.193.161] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T11:22:12 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T12:24:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T12:32:37 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-28T12:43:36 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T12:47:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-28T12:48:42 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: reboot] 2016-05-28T12:51:34 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T12:55:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T13:18:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.187] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T13:26:04 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T13:34:43 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/HilariousWarmheartedBasil Lol 2016-05-28T13:38:22 < Sync> that is why you only inflate truck tires in a cage 2016-05-28T13:39:50 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokšt] 2016-05-28T13:42:32 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-28T13:49:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-8bebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-28T14:03:07 < dongs> fukin hell 2016-05-28T14:03:20 < dongs> another altidumb export 23.1001 mm 2016-05-28T14:03:25 < dongs> when its 23.1mm in layout 2016-05-28T14:25:08 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T14:30:34 < Rob235> mornin' 2016-05-28T14:39:42 < Steffanx> doing accurate floating point is hard dongs. 2016-05-28T14:42:18 < Rob235> how many amps can a protoboard take? 2016-05-28T14:44:00 < Rob235> psh, not enough 2016-05-28T14:57:53 < dongs> how did i miss this, attn zyp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVOnhCf7G2I 2016-05-28T15:05:15 -!- rawtaz [~rawtaz@rho.hobbyhotellet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T15:05:24 < rawtaz> bah, public logs suck 2016-05-28T15:05:32 < dongs> i bet 2016-05-28T15:05:35 -!- rawtaz [~rawtaz@rho.hobbyhotellet.se] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-28T15:06:25 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T15:12:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T15:56:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-28T16:10:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.123] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T16:30:02 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@167-88-22-231.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T16:33:18 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@167-88-22-231.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-28T16:33:48 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T16:35:04 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T16:41:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-8bebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T16:45:15 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T16:53:47 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@167-88-22-231.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-28T17:04:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T17:13:58 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-28T17:14:05 < Laurenceb_> no Trump versus Sanders O_o 2016-05-28T17:14:11 < Laurenceb_> chick chick chicken 2016-05-28T17:16:42 < dongs> yawn 2016-05-28T17:16:49 < dongs> Laurenceb_: please be funny 2016-05-28T17:18:13 < Laurenceb_> http://stallman.org/facebook.html 2016-05-28T17:18:23 < Laurenceb_> By the way, I cannot understand why people make a fuss about just how they find out that someone they loved is dead. Compared to the fact of that person's death, such those details seem insignificant. 2016-05-28T17:18:34 < Laurenceb_> asperger king 2016-05-28T17:19:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-28T17:23:08 < mitrax> stallman is dead? 2016-05-28T17:23:50 < mitrax> :) 2016-05-28T17:25:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.123] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T17:25:48 < Tectu> dat conclusion... the fuck. 2016-05-28T17:26:52 < Tectu> Laurenceb_ reading that page... I wonder how he can be such paranoid about the real name thing. seriously. 2016-05-28T17:27:12 < Tectu> if you are known because you do something then you can't avoid it anyway. Like in his case. everybody knows who "Richard Stallman" is. 2016-05-28T17:28:19 < Tectu> "Facebook deletes postings for obscure reasons, and even denies deleting them. It is not safe as a platform for journalism." c'mon stallman... really? 2016-05-28T17:28:34 < englishman> his facebook is here https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html 2016-05-28T17:28:51 < dongs> anyone who thinks "facebook" is a "platform for jounalism" should be murdered anyway. 2016-05-28T17:29:00 < Tectu> that ^ 2016-05-28T17:29:02 < dongs> or platform for * really 2016-05-28T17:29:34 < Tectu> "The order says the protest is illegal. In a tyrannical state, protests are generally illegal." that guy doesn't know shit. 2016-05-28T17:30:51 < Tectu> "In some regions, 10% of Facebook useds don't realize that talking to Facebook is using the internet. And Facebook is directing millions of people into having no internet access except to Facebook." is he just stating random facts that apply to many things and just makes them facebook-only relevant? 2016-05-28T17:31:03 < Tectu> I should stop reading that. Screw you Laurenceb_. 2016-05-28T17:31:52 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-05-28T17:32:26 < Laurenceb_> that page is like asperger king the blog 2016-05-28T17:33:03 < Laurenceb_> http://www.marriedtothesea.com/022808/asperger-king.gif 2016-05-28T17:36:09 < Laurenceb_> lul I notice Stallman is a Putin basher 2016-05-28T17:36:21 < Laurenceb_> so much for smash the system 2016-05-28T17:36:25 < Tectu> how about stop wasting your time and do something productive, Mr. Laurenceb ? 2016-05-28T17:37:23 < Laurenceb_> Facebook measured the depth of its grip over its useds by trying to drive them away with malfunctioning apps. No matter how bad things got, the useds would not be driven away. 2016-05-28T17:37:27 < Laurenceb_> holy shit I lulled 2016-05-28T17:37:50 < Laurenceb_> the stm32 i2c strategy 2016-05-28T17:38:02 < Tectu> lol'd ^ 2016-05-28T17:51:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T17:54:58 < Ecco> Guys, any idea where I could try and find second hand rigol scopes? 2016-05-28T17:55:21 < Ecco> So far I haven't really found any below €200 (kinda stupid since the entry-level, brand new one is at €250) 2016-05-28T17:56:55 < Lux> why not just buy a new one then ? 2016-05-28T17:57:11 < Ecco> that's probably what I'll end up doing 2016-05-28T17:57:16 < Ecco> but I wouldn't mind saving a few $$$ 2016-05-28T17:57:19 < Lux> from what i've seen you rarely get used rigol scopes on ebay for example 2016-05-28T17:57:35 < Ecco> same experience 2016-05-28T17:57:39 < Ecco> why is that? 2016-05-28T17:57:48 < Lux> people keem them 2016-05-28T17:57:52 < Lux> *keep 2016-05-28T18:01:00 < Tectu> well either that or they crap down before people upgrade to a new scope 2016-05-28T18:02:39 < Lux> the quality seems decent, mine is 5 years old and still works well 2016-05-28T18:03:35 < __rob2> ecco, if you do buy one you used to be able to upgrade the firmware to get the top bandwidth in its range 2016-05-28T18:03:52 < __rob2> so like the 2072, you can unlock in software to the 2302 2016-05-28T18:03:59 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T18:04:19 < __rob2> + all the decoders 2016-05-28T18:04:53 < __rob2> there was a long thread on eevblog about it, with links 2016-05-28T18:18:10 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtnHPNlzCz8 2016-05-28T18:18:10 < dongs> wat 2016-05-28T18:24:53 < Lux> dongs: did you allready see that dobby drone ? http://www.i4u.com/2016/05/110913/zerotech-dobby-selfie-drone-takes-hover-camera 2016-05-28T18:25:23 < dongs> zerotech? like the clowns who did that YS-X6 shit? 2016-05-28T18:25:32 < englishman> hey, it's taschenrakete 2016-05-28T18:25:37 < Lux> seems like it 2016-05-28T18:25:55 < Lux> but they use the snapdragon flight platform on that drone 2016-05-28T18:26:21 < Lux> http://www.banggood.com/Zero-Dobby-Pocket-Selfie-Drone-With-13MP-HD-Camera-GPS-WiFi-App-Control-Foldable-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1057414.html 2016-05-28T18:26:36 < dongs> useless price lol 2016-05-28T18:26:59 < englishman> suppository drone 2016-05-28T18:27:12 < Lux> imo it's cheap if the software isn't crap 2016-05-28T18:27:35 < englishman> 4K image acquisition,1080P video recording 2016-05-28T18:27:37 < englishman> Lol wat 2016-05-28T18:27:42 < dongs> > chinese shit 2016-05-28T18:27:45 < dongs> > software isnt crap 2016-05-28T18:27:46 < dongs> k 2016-05-28T18:27:52 < Lux> iirc the snapdragon platform is like 200$ alone with the cameras 2016-05-28T18:27:56 < dongs> for examples of quality chiense smartphone software 2016-05-28T18:28:01 < dongs> take a look at cx_wifiufo 2016-05-28T18:28:14 < Lux> ya it will suck most likely 2016-05-28T18:28:25 < Lux> but you never know 2016-05-28T18:28:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.185] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-05-28T18:28:56 < Lux> the px4 stuff it's based on should be pretty mature 2016-05-28T18:31:52 < Lux> it's probably the same hardware as described here: http://dev.px4.io/hardware-snapdragon.html 2016-05-28T18:32:18 < Lux> so it would be capable of 4k video 2016-05-28T18:33:15 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T18:34:01 < dongs> lunix on your shitcopter? k 2016-05-28T18:34:42 < dongs> nobody cares about qualcomm propeitary shjit anyway 2016-05-28T18:36:01 < Lux> too bad there is no non proprietary shit out there 2016-05-28T18:36:38 < Lux> also the flight control software runs on an rtos on the hexagon dsp 2016-05-28T18:38:32 < emeryth> can you pros recommend a cheap small IC for auto switching between battery power and USB power? 2016-05-28T18:39:03 < dongs> emeryth: yeah its called BAT54C? 2016-05-28T18:42:52 < emeryth> how unexpected 2016-05-28T18:43:19 < dongs> i mean you werent very specific 2016-05-28T18:43:31 < dongs> but if your shit is drawing like < 100mA thats a good solution 2016-05-28T18:44:02 < dongs> otherwise... some battery charger IC with powerpath stuff? 2016-05-28T18:44:09 < dongs> assuming you wanna charge by usb also 2016-05-28T18:52:27 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-28T18:54:38 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@dhcp-187195.eduroam.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T18:55:00 < emeryth> I need under 250mA, was hoping for a magical china IC that does it all 2016-05-28T18:55:39 < dongs> there's hugher current dual diodes. 2016-05-28T18:55:44 < dongs> what are you trying to do, bigger picture 2016-05-28T18:57:11 < Lux> emeryth: http://www.ti.com/product/BQ24075/description 2016-05-28T18:57:22 < emeryth> just a random single-cell li-ion powered device with USB 2016-05-28T18:57:26 < Lux> that'll work, but no china trash 2016-05-28T18:59:56 < dongs> bq more like bbq 2016-05-28T18:59:59 < dongs> i think i even used that one 2016-05-28T19:00:04 < dongs> the part# looks a wfully familar 2016-05-28T19:00:22 < dongs> yeah 2016-05-28T19:00:27 < dongs> thats whati had in my dildo 2016-05-28T19:00:30 < dongs> bluetooth dildo 2016-05-28T19:02:21 < Laurenceb_> http://a.pomf.cat/bppsat.mp4 2016-05-28T19:02:30 < Laurenceb_> Mr Musk having luck with GoPro 2016-05-28T19:02:42 < Laurenceb_> but I hear he has custom firmware that doesnt suck 2016-05-28T19:03:42 < dongs> i think they mentioned it during the webcast that the caemra burns off on reentry 2016-05-28T19:03:52 < Ecco> What does "power path" mean in that IC description? 2016-05-28T19:03:57 < Ecco> (the li-ion USB charger IC) 2016-05-28T19:04:14 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypgonmegultepvpg] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T19:04:23 < dongs> Ecco: it means it switches power from usb/battery/charging 2016-05-28T19:04:29 < dongs> look at block diagram 2016-05-28T19:04:32 < PeterM> its a TI thing 2016-05-28T19:04:33 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-28T19:05:00 < Ecco> What would the alternative be? 2016-05-28T19:05:13 < Ecco> Like an IC that, when charging, doesn't output any voltage ? 2016-05-28T19:05:37 < dongs> PeterM: loaded dicknplace with parts for that swticher, testing tomorrow 2016-05-28T19:05:43 < dongs> the innovative one 2016-05-28T19:05:46 < Ecco> I don't really understand how that would work though 2016-05-28T19:05:50 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-28T19:05:54 < dongs> doh'd 2016-05-28T19:06:01 < Ecco> a standard charger + DC/DC on the Vbat would do exactly that, wouldn't it? 2016-05-28T19:06:16 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@dhcp-187195.eduroam.chalmers.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-28T19:06:32 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T19:06:32 < PeterM> http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/sluu332/sluu332.pdf 2016-05-28T19:06:33 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T19:07:08 < dongs> Laurenceb_: oh wtf it didnt burn off 2016-05-28T19:08:04 < PeterM> dongs neato 2016-05-28T19:08:29 < PeterM> i also rememebred another ipo protection chipo that ive used nto a chink one 2016-05-28T19:08:33 < PeterM> *lipo 2016-05-28T19:08:43 < dongs> PeterM: too late, pal ordered like 200 of those DW01 wahtever shits 2016-05-28T19:08:51 < dongs> for first test 2016-05-28T19:09:19 < dongs> the other one was that PM25 whatever right? 2016-05-28T19:09:24 < dongs> super wide sot25 2016-05-28T19:09:36 < PeterM> the 8305A 2016-05-28T19:09:36 < dongs> or super long rahter 2016-05-28T19:09:41 < PeterM> *8205A 2016-05-28T19:10:11 < dongs> that looks like 5S shit 2016-05-28T19:10:33 < dongs> and FS8205A is dual nfet 2016-05-28T19:10:34 < PeterM> my net is being shit but i can still read to see what is said 2016-05-28T19:11:37 < Laurenceb_> https://gfycat.com/ThornyNiceCoqui 2016-05-28T19:12:59 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-28T19:15:04 < PeterM> DW01A + FS8205A (dw01a is controller, FS is dual nfert that actualyl does the swithcing), diodes inc make some decent other ones but i dont htink china sells em 2016-05-28T19:15:48 < dongs> right 2016-05-28T19:15:57 < dongs> thats what hes gonna use (well, some other nfets tho cuz he neesd like 5-6AS 2016-05-28T19:16:14 < PeterM> that sair 2016-05-28T19:16:17 < PeterM> *fair 2016-05-28T19:35:08 < dongs> shit, way past my bedtime 2016-05-28T19:35:11 < dongs> bbl 2016-05-28T19:42:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-28T19:42:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T19:46:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-28T19:54:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T19:54:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-28T19:56:33 < Rob235> booo 2016-05-28T19:59:41 < Steffanx> aah 2016-05-28T19:59:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T19:59:54 < Rob235> can someone help me with a wiring problem? I'm wiring up my drone stuff to a protoboard until I design a circuitboard and it's ugly but here so you have an idea: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/99345853/20160527_214833.jpg Anyway... WS2812B LED strips aren't working right. I know it's either the length of the signal wire or the way I grounded it but not sure what to do. If I power the board through usb the leds turn on but 2016-05-28T19:59:54 < Rob235> the color is wrong, if I power the board from a lipo the stm32 comes on but the leds don't 2016-05-28T20:11:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-28T20:14:58 < Lux> are you powering the leds with 6V ? 2016-05-28T20:15:34 < Lux> iirc you need 3.6V at 5V for the ws2812 to detect high according to the datasheet 2016-05-28T20:15:48 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T20:16:26 < Lux> so you can either use a llc or hack a diode into the vcc line of the first led 2016-05-28T20:16:50 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T20:17:13 < Rob235> it comes to like 5.2v 2016-05-28T20:17:53 < Lux> maybe that's the issue 2016-05-28T20:18:20 < Lux> 0.xV more may allready cause issues if it just barely worked before 2016-05-28T20:18:53 < Rob235> it worked fine before, just doesn't since I rewired it 2016-05-28T20:19:16 < Rob235> I think it's how I'm splitting the gnd 2016-05-28T20:29:25 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T20:29:30 -!- eft [~nik@2601:b00:c580:eaa0:2022:10b8:9180:70fc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-28T20:34:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T20:40:51 -!- eft [~nik@2601:b00:c580:eaa0:b81f:cbb8:63f:232d] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T20:43:41 < jpa-> world is a little better place now, i made a mini-me 2016-05-28T20:45:49 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-28T20:49:38 < Tectu> congratulations :) 2016-05-28T20:50:14 < Steffanx> congratz jpa- . 2016-05-28T20:50:30 < Steffanx> junior petteri is he/she named? 2016-05-28T20:50:58 < jpa-> fortunately no, we call him lauri 2016-05-28T20:51:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-28T20:51:58 < Fleck> mini-me is old... in 09 was made ;p 2016-05-28T20:52:47 < Steffanx> i thought you was much younger then that Fleck. Or where you an early one? 2016-05-28T20:54:08 < Tectu> fleck was like 30-ish, no? 2016-05-28T20:54:16 < Tectu> 32? 37? 2016-05-28T20:54:18 < Tectu> 36? 2016-05-28T20:54:21 < Tectu> 29? 2016-05-28T20:54:22 < Fleck> for those in "tank"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj4uD47bAL0 2016-05-28T20:54:32 < Tectu> or 26. 2016-05-28T20:54:33 < Steffanx> Really? would explain it all. 2016-05-28T20:58:01 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-28T21:23:11 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T21:24:21 < willmore> My STM32 boards showed up today. I managed to get all four of them to blink an LED, so that's a start. The three "blue pill" boards had read locked FLASH which took an extra second to fix. The larger JM Electron board had the LED on a completely different I/O, so that took a little searching to figure out. Would have been nice if they had labeled that... 2016-05-28T21:34:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-28T21:38:46 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-28T21:45:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-28T21:45:41 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/fg1wkgZp what do the different columns mean? 2016-05-28T21:54:41 < willmore> Now to try to put the DFU USB firmware on a board and see if it works or if I have some soldering to do.... 2016-05-28T21:58:20 < jpa-> Rob235: text: code size in flash; data: initialized data size, both in RAM and flash; bss: zero-initialized data size, in RAM; dec and hex are the total in dec/hex 2016-05-28T21:58:50 < Rob235> ahh thanks 2016-05-28T21:59:19 < Rob235> I guess it's good I didn't choose keil or something with a 32k limit 2016-05-28T22:07:57 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTI31HOMBk seems legit 2016-05-28T22:13:32 < Rob235> is it ok to use a lipo right after you charge it or should it be left alone for a bit? 2016-05-28T22:14:41 < Emil> Rob235: okay to use 2016-05-28T22:14:54 < Emil> How can you even think that it wouldnt be okay 2016-05-28T22:15:19 < Emil> You do know you can use your phone at any point there's power 2016-05-28T22:15:21 < Rob235> haha I tend to overthink things 2016-05-28T22:16:56 < Rob235> just wasn't sure if it needed to cool down or something 2016-05-28T22:17:14 < Rob235> even though I'm only charging at 1C and it's not warm :) 2016-05-28T22:17:57 < Emil> Think of everyday applications 2016-05-28T22:20:17 < Rob235> I don't know any everyday items that use lipo, not familiar enough with batteries obviously to know if theres a difference between lipo and li-ion 2016-05-28T22:20:52 < Emil> Rob235: ... ooor you can google? Anycase, your phone is one example. 2016-05-28T22:21:13 < Emil> But yeah, no need to worry about using after charginh 2016-05-28T22:22:38 < willmore> Has anyone used dfu-util with the usb firmware for ST32F103 boards? 2016-05-28T22:22:56 < willmore> I'm seeing a different behavior for root and a user, but I think the user has the right permissions. 2016-05-28T22:24:06 < Emil> willmore: I tried and succeeded in flashing one bootloader that at least enumerates correctly but have not tried uploading code yet 2016-05-28T22:24:35 < Emil> Its the arm32duino bootloader for the generic plue pill model 2016-05-28T22:25:00 < willmore> Emil, thanks, I have it flashed--via the serial method and dfu-util -l can see it. But I see different results for root and as a normal user. But the /dev permissions look correct. 2016-05-28T22:25:24 < willmore> I'm trying to get dfu-util to tell me what device it's trying to access so I can check the permissions there. I think it's time for strace. 2016-05-28T22:28:02 < willmore> That didn't help 2016-05-28T22:31:18 < willmore> And now it works without me changing anything further. *sigh* 2016-05-28T22:32:19 < willmore> Works still after an unplug and replug, so whatever changed it's persistant. 2016-05-28T22:35:16 -!- eft [~nik@2601:b00:c580:eaa0:b81f:cbb8:63f:232d] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-28T22:39:20 < Thorn> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/05/26/the-internet-of-things-a-revolution/ 2016-05-28T22:46:44 -!- eft [~nik@2601:b00:c580:eaa0:b81f:cbb8:63f:232d] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T22:48:56 < Ecco> How would you guys measure a capacitance? 2016-05-28T22:53:37 < BrainDamage> throw sine or square, measure voltage divider with resistance 2016-05-28T22:53:56 < Ecco> Hmm, ok 2016-05-28T22:54:03 < Ecco> Complicated though 2016-05-28T22:54:14 < Ecco> Should't a voltmeter or a scope do it out of the box? 2016-05-28T22:54:36 < BrainDamage> oh, i tought you meant in a diy circuit 2016-05-28T22:54:42 < Thorn> measure in a lab or in your device? 2016-05-28T22:54:45 < BrainDamage> a dmm will measure caps within a certain range 2016-05-28T22:54:48 < Thorn> LCR meter or many DMMs 2016-05-28T22:54:52 < BrainDamage> best is lcr meter 2016-05-28T22:55:22 < Ecco> interesting 2016-05-28T22:55:38 < Ecco> thanks 2016-05-28T22:55:41 < BrainDamage> the dmm will actually do what i said 2016-05-28T22:58:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-28T22:59:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:1075:3390:63b4:c530] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-28T23:02:52 < Ecco> Also, what about USB-only scopes? 2016-05-28T23:03:02 < Ecco> I've bought a Saleae Logic a few years ago 2016-05-28T23:03:09 < Ecco> and I have to say, I really like that device 2016-05-28T23:17:35 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-28T23:23:06 < BrainDamage> a scope needs to push much more data than a logic analyzer, unless they are usb3 or ethernet it'll end up pretty shit 2016-05-28T23:23:36 < BrainDamage> and even then, so much for update rate since your pc would have to churn quite some data 2016-05-28T23:26:45 < BrainDamage> h265what? 2016-05-28T23:27:35 < BrainDamage> and while the quality of usb scopes tend to suck in general, even if they were good, you cannot magically overcome the problem of a shitty bus 2016-05-28T23:28:30 < Bright> h.265 2016-05-28T23:28:34 < Bright> its a codec 2016-05-28T23:28:36 < Bright> i think 2016-05-28T23:28:44 < BrainDamage> yes, but a word a sentence does not make 2016-05-28T23:28:51 < BrainDamage> neither an argument 2016-05-28T23:29:08 < BrainDamage> ponies 2016-05-28T23:29:08 < Bright> usb scope can just encode the display to h.265 and push it i guess 2016-05-28T23:29:14 < Bright> makes update rate irrelevant 2016-05-28T23:29:18 < Bright> what about ponies 2016-05-28T23:29:45 < Bright> whois me :p 2016-05-28T23:30:35 < BrainDamage> if you encode video and just push it, then you have some hybrid abomination, might as well connect the display directly 2016-05-28T23:30:43 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-28T23:30:46 < Sync> have all the cancer 2016-05-28T23:30:49 < Sync> and none of the benefits 2016-05-28T23:32:14 < BrainDamage> none claimed to? 2016-05-28T23:32:20 < BrainDamage> the rigols use blackfin dsp 2016-05-28T23:34:30 < BrainDamage> if you can have realtime algos running on the processing chain it'd be cool 2016-05-28T23:34:36 < BrainDamage> and i mean really arbitrary ones 2016-05-28T23:34:46 < Sync> the picoscopes have hardware triggering 2016-05-28T23:34:52 < Sync> or had, even 16 years ago 2016-05-28T23:35:19 < Sync> I have used that tek usb spec an 2016-05-28T23:35:24 < Sync> it is not all that shitty 2016-05-28T23:36:04 < kakimir> kunth 2016-05-28T23:58:52 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQIYZ-iKuG4 --- Day changed Sun May 29 2016 2016-05-29T00:01:28 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T00:13:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T00:15:34 < karlp> Ecco: the other common way of measuring capacitance, particular if you were really meaning about a capacitance type sensor is by using it as part of an oscillator, and measuring the frequency. 2016-05-29T00:15:51 < Ecco> INdeed, that's a good solution 2016-05-29T00:16:46 < karlp> congratulations jpa :) 2016-05-29T00:17:23 < Ecco> on what? (/me curious) 2016-05-29T00:19:21 < Ultrasauce> reproduction 2016-05-29T00:19:32 < Ecco> great! Baby boy? Baby girl? 2016-05-29T00:21:24 < Ultrasauce> incorrect 2016-05-29T00:47:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-29T00:56:38 < kakimir> tv show or youtube show? 2016-05-29T01:00:50 < Lux> ohsix: that's just cause people reverseengineered stuff 2016-05-29T01:00:59 < Lux> and allwiner is dirt cheap 2016-05-29T01:01:51 < Lux> read it up ;) 2016-05-29T01:02:11 < Lux> but all the multimedia stuff is proprietary 2016-05-29T01:34:16 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T01:48:22 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-29T01:59:06 < Rob235> woo, finally getting things working together, throttle adjusts motor speed (without pid or anything for now) a knob controls led brightness, etc 2016-05-29T02:09:59 < kakimir> http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/microchipmillionyear0031.jpg interesting fossil 2016-05-29T02:18:17 < dongs> stoner 2016-05-29T02:29:22 < rcc> kakimir, part of an animal most likeley 2016-05-29T02:29:30 < Laurenceb_> ancient code? 2016-05-29T02:29:38 < Laurenceb_> liek ancient alienz? 2016-05-29T02:44:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-29T02:47:43 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T03:03:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-05-29T03:04:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:1075:3390:63b4:c530] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-29T03:09:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-29T03:10:04 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T03:10:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T03:20:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-8bebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-29T03:47:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-29T04:48:58 < Emil> What STM32 (minimum) dev board would you recommend? 2016-05-29T04:49:40 < Emil> The smaller the board the better in general, but with the standars 2,54mm pin pitch for easy soldering and so on 2016-05-29T04:55:02 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-05-29T04:55:20 < upgrdman> dongs, re: i2cCuntSticker, thanks, that did the trick. 2016-05-29T04:59:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:50be:4713:21da:7510] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T05:00:59 < dongs> ciik 2016-05-29T05:01:00 < dongs> err 2016-05-29T05:01:00 < dongs> cool 2016-05-29T05:01:15 < scrts> sup lads? 2016-05-29T05:01:21 < dongs> Emil: ebay is full of like $3-4 stm32f103c8 devboards without stlink 2016-05-29T05:01:21 < scrts> dongs how is it going? 2016-05-29T05:01:25 < dongs> and $3 stlink clones 2016-05-29T05:01:34 < dongs> scrts: not much, warming up oven, about to do some shitty dicknplacing 2016-05-29T05:02:07 < scrts> cool'n'stuff 2016-05-29T05:02:09 < scrts> :) 2016-05-29T05:10:55 < Emil> No, you mistake me 2016-05-29T05:11:10 < Emil> I have 3 stm32f103c8t6 generic blue pill models 2016-05-29T05:12:21 < Emil> Hmm, perhaps I phrased it wrong. What is a good but reasonably priced min dev board you would recommend? 2016-05-29T05:12:52 < Emil> But since the blue pill model can fit into that the question expansion is rather moot 2016-05-29T05:21:46 < dongs> the anwer is obviously : whatever it is you want to do 2016-05-29T05:21:55 < dongs> then pick a -disco or -nucleo with required components on it 2016-05-29T05:22:26 < PeterM> get a nucleo, then just make your own boards, pcbs are cheap as shit and oyur gonna have to do it anyway eventually 2016-05-29T05:43:55 < scrts> gents, do you know where assembly would be cheap? 2016-05-29T05:44:37 < scrts> but who doesn't do crap? 2016-05-29T05:45:03 < scrts> ah ok, you never tried to do assembly there 2016-05-29T05:48:42 < scrts> meh :) 2016-05-29T05:48:57 < scrts> did they order stencils themselves? 2016-05-29T05:50:09 < scrts> for large quantities I have companies here 2016-05-29T05:50:31 < scrts> but for prototypes I would like to have a resource in china 2016-05-29T06:04:17 < dongs> lol 2016-05-29T06:04:45 < dongs> i duno if things changed since yearsa go but 'prototype' assembly in china used to take weeks 2016-05-29T06:18:47 < PeterM> scrts, the people i mentioned i n##fpga might be suitable 2016-05-29T06:27:39 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T06:28:11 < Rob235> hmm 2016-05-29T06:31:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T06:41:31 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-29T06:45:10 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T06:57:22 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adebb.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-29T07:05:44 < upgrdman> on github, how do i find the contents of a file from a specific commit? 2016-05-29T07:05:59 < upgrdman> like i see how to get the diffs, but how do i just view the file from an old commit 2016-05-29T07:08:28 < upgrdman> o nm https://help.github.com/articles/getting-permanent-links-to-files/ 2016-05-29T07:09:48 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7706b8.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T07:15:04 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T07:15:41 < dongs> you click "viuew file at that revision" or something 2016-05-29T07:15:45 < dongs> somewehre in diff ui 2016-05-29T07:15:59 < upgrdman> easy as pressing "y" 2016-05-29T07:16:09 < upgrdman> for current commit's url 2016-05-29T07:18:03 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-29T07:18:07 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-29T07:18:19 < dongs> whats upo 2016-05-29T07:20:21 < upgrdman> lolwut 2016-05-29T07:20:35 < upgrdman> so at a briss they actually suck the baby's dick blood? 2016-05-29T08:29:08 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-29T09:42:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-29T09:58:26 < dongs> < flyback> https://linksofuckingoldithas20milviews/ <-- OWNS YOUR "CANUCK" 2016-05-29T09:58:30 < dongs> good job, flycack 2016-05-29T10:26:42 -!- bartekww [~bartekww@2a03:b0c0:3:d0::3e:8001] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T10:26:45 < bartekww> hey guys 2016-05-29T10:26:54 < bartekww> i want to buy stm32 2016-05-29T10:27:02 < bartekww> only µC 2016-05-29T10:27:12 < bartekww> i want to program it from Linux 2016-05-29T10:27:17 < bartekww> without any IDE 2016-05-29T10:27:20 < bartekww> just makefile 2016-05-29T10:27:22 < bartekww> toolchain 2016-05-29T10:27:29 < bartekww> and CMSIS 2016-05-29T10:27:39 < bartekww> how? 2016-05-29T10:28:29 < bartekww> ocd is a thing with which i upload hex file to a cpu? 2016-05-29T10:29:04 < dongs> is it "ohsix brings clones in and chats to himself" hour? 2016-05-29T10:30:06 < Thorn> business opportunity alert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQJ4crV6BxU 2016-05-29T10:30:39 < bartekww> ohsix: can i do it with linaro toolchain? 2016-05-29T10:30:48 < bartekww> and how can i generate hex file 2016-05-29T10:31:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T10:32:05 < Thorn> bartekww: you don't need a hex, use elf with openocd or jlink 2016-05-29T10:32:34 < Thorn> but if you have to the toolchain has objcopy 2016-05-29T10:32:37 < dongs> bartekww: i wouldnt listen to ohsix, hes going to give you shitload of useless "advice" 2016-05-29T10:32:42 < dongs> better just /ignore asap 2016-05-29T10:33:10 < bartekww> dongs: :D 2016-05-29T10:33:18 < bartekww> Thorn: so just compile it 2016-05-29T10:33:21 < bartekww> link 2016-05-29T10:33:24 < bartekww> objcopy to .bin 2016-05-29T10:33:28 < dongs> bartekww: unless of course, you're ohsix, in which case, disregard me. 2016-05-29T10:33:53 < bartekww> where i can find ld files for all STM32 cpus? 2016-05-29T10:34:00 < Thorn> no need to objcopy to bin either 2016-05-29T10:34:17 < Fleck> download Cube HAL lib bartekww 2016-05-29T10:34:26 < bartekww> Thorn: wny? 2016-05-29T10:34:27 < bartekww> why 2016-05-29T10:34:52 < Thorn> gcc compiles to elf which is directly usable 2016-05-29T10:35:03 < Thorn> and has debug info for gcc, etc. 2016-05-29T10:35:21 < Thorn> *for gdb 2016-05-29T10:37:09 < bartekww> Thorn: i can't find Cube HAL 2016-05-29T10:38:09 < Thorn> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/ecosystems/stm32-open-development-environment/stm32cube.html 2016-05-29T10:38:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T10:38:52 < dongs> "ecosystems" 2016-05-29T10:38:55 < dongs> did ST change their site again? 2016-05-29T10:39:14 < dongs> cube is "open" allright 2016-05-29T10:39:21 < dongs> if you dont mind completely non-open license 2016-05-29T10:42:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-29T10:45:27 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvE-O5KzuYE is this eye safe 2016-05-29T10:45:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T10:52:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-29T11:11:48 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T11:16:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T11:20:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-29T11:32:43 < bartekww> dongs: Thorn i have written a Makefile 2016-05-29T11:32:45 < bartekww> and it works 2016-05-29T11:32:52 < bartekww> arm-none-gnu-gcc :P 2016-05-29T11:43:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.198] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T11:48:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:50be:4713:21da:7510] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-29T12:03:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-29T12:10:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.70] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T12:14:36 < Ecco> Is there a standard way to measure current in a circuit? 2016-05-29T12:14:46 < Ecco> I don't really know how to hook my ammeter 2016-05-29T12:14:49 < Ecco> to the pcb 2016-05-29T12:15:32 < bartekww> current clamp :D 2016-05-29T12:15:39 < Ecco> seriously? 2016-05-29T12:15:46 < bartekww> no 2016-05-29T12:15:49 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-29T12:15:50 < bartekww> :D 2016-05-29T12:18:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T12:18:59 < bartekww> Ecco: have got an idea 2016-05-29T12:19:05 < bartekww> have any resistor on this trace? 2016-05-29T12:19:14 < bartekww> you know the resistance 2016-05-29T12:19:17 < Ecco> well I sure can measure voltage drop across a resistor 2016-05-29T12:19:22 < bartekww> measure voltage drop 2016-05-29T12:19:25 < Ecco> but it's not always the case, sometimes there's just a trac 2016-05-29T12:19:26 < Ecco> trace 2016-05-29T12:19:27 < bartekww> and get I 2016-05-29T12:21:51 < bartekww> why? 2016-05-29T12:30:08 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T12:31:10 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-29T12:43:43 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypgonmegultepvpg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-29T13:00:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-5eeaaa51-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T13:04:26 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-3debe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T13:05:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-5eeaaa51-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-29T13:16:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-29T13:39:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T14:24:44 < Ecco> Guys 2016-05-29T14:24:55 < Ecco> What do you think of a Tektronix TDS220 for $200 2016-05-29T14:25:03 < Ecco> Is that a good deal or should I get a brand new Rigol? 2016-05-29T14:35:14 < PeterM> the tds220 is ancient 2016-05-29T14:35:22 < PeterM> i think thats a horrible deaql 2016-05-29T14:35:22 < Ecco> Yeah, that's what I was reading 2016-05-29T14:35:47 < PeterM> id get the riglol 2016-05-29T14:35:50 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-05-29T14:36:58 < Ecco> I'm eyeing the DS1054Z 2016-05-29T14:37:07 < Ecco> A bit more expensive, but seems really good 2016-05-29T14:40:08 < PeterM> yeah, tis pretty decent 2016-05-29T14:40:18 < PeterM> for the money it is much much much much better than the tektronics 2016-05-29T14:40:21 < PeterM> *x 2016-05-29T14:40:27 < Ecco> Yeah, that's what I figured 2016-05-29T14:40:40 < Ecco> Apparently Tektronics is the Rolls Royce of scopes 2016-05-29T14:40:44 < Ecco> incredibly expensive 2016-05-29T14:40:49 < Ecco> but supposedly very reliable 2016-05-29T14:41:17 < PeterM> nah 2016-05-29T14:41:28 < Ecco> they're just expensive? 2016-05-29T14:41:30 < Ecco> :-D 2016-05-29T14:41:35 < PeterM> nah 2016-05-29T14:42:16 < PeterM> scoeps are all pretty similarly priced, its just that rigol is a lot better value for money in the ultra low budget 2016-05-29T14:42:26 < Ecco> I understand 2016-05-29T14:42:44 < Ecco> I'm also on the market for a lab power supply 2016-05-29T14:42:51 < Ecco> I want something reliable 2016-05-29T14:42:56 < Ecco> but that doesn't do very fancy shit 2016-05-29T14:43:22 < Ecco> like 30V/2A max, ideally that can be digitally controlled and set up as constant voltage or constant current 2016-05-29T14:43:34 < Ecco> But really I don't want it to fry whatever I'm using it with 2016-05-29T14:43:55 < PeterM> digitally controlled? like.... you can set votlage steps over time etc or what 2016-05-29T14:44:04 < Ecco> yes, just that 2016-05-29T14:44:10 < Ecco> oh not even over time 2016-05-29T14:44:18 < Ecco> I just don't want an analog knob 2016-05-29T14:44:25 < Ecco> just something where I can say "I want 3.3V" 2016-05-29T14:44:30 < Ecco> or 2.8 2016-05-29T14:44:32 < PeterM> oh, thats pretty common, thats like 99% of units 2016-05-29T14:44:55 < Ecco> Yeah I guess :) 2016-05-29T14:45:19 < PeterM> gophert cps-3205 is my standard response 2016-05-29T14:45:37 < PeterM> its not perfect, but for the money you cant complain too much 2016-05-29T14:45:48 < Ecco> Seems to do what I need 2016-05-29T14:49:52 < kakimir> what is function called that only purpose is to call actual implentation function used? 2016-05-29T14:50:07 < kakimir> so that function name stays the same in application 2016-05-29T14:50:19 < kakimir> when implementation changes 2016-05-29T14:54:10 < kakimir> ooh.. wrapper 2016-05-29T14:54:20 < kakimir> wrapper function 2016-05-29T14:55:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-29T15:02:18 < Sync> dongs: what is lower control arm in jappuspeak? 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2016-05-29T16:37:34 < englishman> less 2016-05-29T16:37:39 < Rob235> heh 2016-05-29T16:37:48 < Rob235> thats a little rougher than I hoped for 2016-05-29T16:37:58 < englishman> i hear that a lot 2016-05-29T16:38:04 < Rob235> haha 2016-05-29T16:42:00 < Tectu> LOL 2016-05-29T16:43:06 < Rob235> sooo many people outside my apartment... 2016-05-29T16:46:25 < Rob235> this drone will be completely put together by the end of the day, 2016-05-29T16:46:46 < Rob235> wiring is horrible but it's temporary 2016-05-29T16:49:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.44] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T16:56:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-29T17:08:31 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 2016-05-29T17:10:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T17:19:40 < englishman> whats innovating this fine sunday Tectu 2016-05-29T17:20:14 < Tectu> englishman, not much. mostly just enjoying the quiet-ness 2016-05-29T17:20:21 < Tectu> englishman, but writing some tiling window manager 2016-05-29T17:20:32 < englishman> for ugfx? 2016-05-29T17:21:12 < Tectu> no, Qt 2016-05-29T17:21:21 < Tectu> for QWidgets 2016-05-29T17:21:40 < Tectu> basically to provide arbitrary dock capabilities like eclipse or visual studio do. 2016-05-29T17:24:20 < Tectu> and what are you up to? 2016-05-29T17:25:11 < englishman> general assburgering, rage and overcaffeination 2016-05-29T17:25:30 < Tectu> sounds like a perfect sunday to me 2016-05-29T17:28:50 < Rob235> what's a good way to bugproof my apartment? 2016-05-29T17:29:11 < Rob235> I'm sure screens that aren't bent would help a lot :) 2016-05-29T17:29:11 < BrainDamage> 10kg of U235 2016-05-29T17:29:33 < englishman> kittens 2016-05-29T17:30:55 < Rob235> I'm going to use fly paper as wallpaper in every room 2016-05-29T17:31:07 < englishman> kittens will not like that 2016-05-29T17:31:13 < Tectu> hah 2016-05-29T17:31:29 < Rob235> i'll give them a little trampoline, they can bounce and stick to the wall 2016-05-29T17:31:30 < Tectu> gotta use a laserpointer as bait 2016-05-29T17:32:00 < englishman> we get a lot of bugs due to adjacent forest, since getting cats there are like zero bugs in the house, except the guest rooms where they arent allowed in 2016-05-29T17:32:27 < BrainDamage> i have a spiderbro in a corner 2016-05-29T17:33:18 < emeb_mac> heh - spiderbro 2016-05-29T17:33:26 < Rob235> I think I'll just replace my screens and spray the windows with some poison 2016-05-29T17:34:28 < Tectu> you can probably fit a poison spray can on a zano 2016-05-29T17:35:18 < Rob235> I think the props would blow the bug away before the spray could be useful 2016-05-29T17:35:40 < Rob235> or at least scare it 2016-05-29T17:36:12 < Ecco> Damn I just read about Richard Branson 2016-05-29T17:36:18 < Ecco> That dude's one funny motherfucker :-D 2016-05-29T17:36:35 < Ecco> -> When he found one of his employees asleep: https://i.redditmedia.com/znHQ3Y553C6x3hUYJPn82378XYRH-2ReA1U65irSZMk.jpg?w=960&s=16a8bc464ce074aa40509d2eb22dcafa 2016-05-29T17:36:54 < Ecco> -> After losing a bet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJZSDBIo08 2016-05-29T17:37:01 < englishman> the boss is having fun guys make sure you smile or you wont be coming in tomorrow 2016-05-29T17:37:03 < Ecco> Pretty chill for a billionaire :) 2016-05-29T17:37:13 < Ecco> lol, yeah, pretty much :-D 2016-05-29T17:39:21 < Tectu> well if you are the founder of a group named "Virgin Group" you can probably do anything you want. 2016-05-29T17:39:36 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T17:41:00 < Tectu> I wonder how people come up with names for that and become billionars afterwards. 2016-05-29T17:43:51 < Rob235> yea, I remember years ago seeing him on tv saying the name was because that territory/market is vigin to him before he involves himself in it. new stuff to him 2016-05-29T17:44:20 < Rob235> it is funny though 2016-05-29T17:45:00 -!- Laurenceb__ [56b20e90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.178.14.144] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T17:45:07 < Laurenceb__> sup 2016-05-29T17:45:33 < Laurenceb__> is anyone here less of an autist than the guys in #ubuntu? 2016-05-29T17:45:33 < Rob235> why are you a different color 2016-05-29T17:45:58 < Laurenceb__> I dunno 2016-05-29T17:46:03 < Laurenceb__> thats racist 2016-05-29T17:46:03 < Rob235> do you have an extra _ 2016-05-29T17:46:06 < Rob235> haha 2016-05-29T17:46:11 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T17:46:20 < Laurenceb__> cuz muh main machine is broken :/ 2016-05-29T17:46:37 < Rob235> sucks 2016-05-29T17:46:42 < englishman> blame lunix 2016-05-29T17:46:44 < Laurenceb__> trying to debug it and failing 2016-05-29T17:46:46 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-05-29T17:46:56 < Laurenceb__> something wrong with suspend and shit 2016-05-29T17:47:06 < emeb_mac> needs new PS 2016-05-29T17:47:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.38] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T17:47:19 < emeb_mac> or new mobo 2016-05-29T17:47:21 < Tectu> Linux broken? better call dongs 2016-05-29T17:47:25 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-05-29T17:47:37 < emeb_mac> or new operator 2016-05-29T17:48:15 < Tectu> remembers me of that one time... lunix distribution of my choice made an update, got a new bug: If your machine enters hibernate it will accidentally overwrite the entire harddisk with /dev/null when it wakes up. 2016-05-29T17:48:29 < BrainDamage> noice 2016-05-29T17:48:30 < emeb_mac> minor issue 2016-05-29T17:48:41 < Tectu> BrainDamage, you remember, right? That was arch. 2016-05-29T17:49:00 < BrainDamage> no i don't remember, still hilarious 2016-05-29T17:49:07 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, you should grab your machine and brig it to that black kid from last week. I'm sure he can get it fixed and save 600 pounds. 2016-05-29T17:49:15 < Tectu> his family will be amazed too. 2016-05-29T17:49:29 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-29T17:49:33 < Tectu> yeah it was hilarious. Got fixed quite quickly though :P 2016-05-29T17:50:05 < Laurenceb__> I suspect its related to the fact that the lock file is jammed somehow... 2016-05-29T17:50:10 < Laurenceb__> I'll fix it later lol 2016-05-29T17:50:12 < Laurenceb__> too lazy 2016-05-29T17:50:57 < Tectu> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-10-Pro/productID.319935900 2016-05-29T17:50:59 < BrainDamage> did their autism include something on the sort of "you're too vague to understand wtf is your problem"? 2016-05-29T17:51:01 < Tectu> I got you bro 2016-05-29T17:52:07 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-05-29T17:54:10 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zzcjjwivgxsrizek] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T18:01:44 < Laurenceb__> ok... /var/log/suspend.log: Read-only file system 2016-05-29T18:01:51 < Laurenceb__> thats not right 2016-05-29T18:02:29 < Thorn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/652788/what-is-the-worst-real-world-macros-pre-processor-abuse-youve-ever-come-across 2016-05-29T18:02:33 < Thorn> He was a Russian programmer who had mostly worked in assembly language. He was fanatical about saving as many bytes as possible because he had previously worked on systems with very limited memory. "It was for satellite. Only very few byte, so we use each byte over for many things." 2016-05-29T18:03:59 < Laurenceb__> for some reason I'm reminded of Leo from #highaltitude 2016-05-29T18:05:22 < Laurenceb__> crazy russian asm guy :D 2016-05-29T18:06:14 < Rickta59> I like the self punishment thing 2016-05-29T18:06:16 < Laurenceb__> ok so I try to wake up my machine and gnome-screensaver is using 100% cpu 2016-05-29T18:06:18 < Laurenceb__> wtf 2016-05-29T18:07:38 < englishman> screensaver is not saving many bytes 2016-05-29T18:08:20 < Laurenceb__> nope 2016-05-29T18:08:24 < Laurenceb__> something is fucked 2016-05-29T18:08:33 < Laurenceb__> screen is blank 2016-05-29T18:08:36 < Steffanx> reinstall. 2016-05-29T18:08:40 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-05-29T18:08:42 < Laurenceb__> rm -rf 2016-05-29T18:08:59 < englishman> is there anyone on ebay today selling win10pro for $18 2016-05-29T18:09:08 < Steffanx> probably too much space(s) your pc does not understand that anymore. After writing too much spaceless code. 2016-05-29T18:09:25 < Steffanx> *many 2016-05-29T18:11:09 < Laurenceb__> i'll try #debian 2016-05-29T18:12:44 < Thorn> Laurenceb__: what does dmesg say 2016-05-29T18:12:59 < Thorn> e.g. "root filesystem error, remounted readonly" 2016-05-29T18:16:34 < Laurenceb__> ah yes 2016-05-29T18:16:36 < Laurenceb__> some errors 2016-05-29T18:17:59 < Laurenceb__> that woul explain it, thanks 2016-05-29T18:18:56 < Tectu> "He had two other quirks: A convex mirror mounted above his monitor "For knowing who is watching", and an occasional sudden exit from his chair to do a quick ten pushups. He explained this last one as "Compiler found error in code. This is punishment"." 2016-05-29T18:25:50 < BrainDamage> those don't sound quirks, that sounds awesome and not boring 2016-05-29T18:28:45 < Laurenceb__> looks like my hdd is write protected 2016-05-29T18:28:47 < Laurenceb__> wtf 2016-05-29T18:29:03 < Tectu> better get windows 2016-05-29T18:29:18 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-05-29T18:30:04 < Tectu> or go BSD 2016-05-29T18:30:12 < Tectu> I don't use linux anymore for non-embedded stuff 2016-05-29T18:30:21 < Steffanx> Or don't go: "aaaah it doesn't work all" all over the place and try to actually fix it ;) 2016-05-29T18:31:01 < Steffanx> You are smart enough for that. (i think) 2016-05-29T18:31:51 < Laurenceb__> no lol 2016-05-29T18:32:55 < Tectu> did you contact black weekly yet? 2016-05-29T18:32:59 < Tectu> I am semi-serious. 2016-05-29T18:33:22 < Tectu> Laurenceb__ haw about OS X? 2016-05-29T18:33:37 < Steffanx> he wouldnt get hackintosh to work. 2016-05-29T18:39:54 < Laurenceb__> is there a writeprotect bit as well as a readonly bit? 2016-05-29T18:42:06 < Laurenceb__> I can set readonly off with hdparm but its still saying write protected 2016-05-29T18:43:26 < karlp> that would be a filesystem mount option, not something you can poke with hdparm surely? 2016-05-29T18:43:50 < Laurenceb__> oh 2016-05-29T18:44:05 < Laurenceb__> bbl 2016-05-29T18:44:27 < Thorn> mount ; mount -o remount,ro|rw etc. 2016-05-29T18:44:38 < Thorn> is probably what you want 2016-05-29T18:44:58 < Sync> I tried that Tectu but it is just missing the most basic stuff 2016-05-29T18:48:24 -!- Laurenceb__ [56b20e90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.178.14.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-29T18:50:31 < Tectu> Sync, I agree 2016-05-29T18:50:48 < Tectu> and personally I completely hate the look'n'feel of the OS X GUI 2016-05-29T18:51:06 < Sync> well, osx might be workable, but no 2016-05-29T18:51:11 < Sync> and windows can also fuck right off 2016-05-29T18:51:45 < Tectu> when did you try windows the last time? 2016-05-29T18:51:48 < Tectu> it ain't that bad no more 2016-05-29T18:52:03 < Sync> I tried win10 in the last few months 2016-05-29T18:52:08 < Sync> it is unusable 2016-05-29T18:52:25 < Tectu> hmm, what's the issue you have with it? 2016-05-29T18:52:37 < Tectu> with win10 I am pretty "happy" (compared to other windozes) 2016-05-29T18:54:04 < Sync> well, the most annoying thing was not being able to use x forwarding properly 2016-05-29T18:54:15 < Sync> and mingw/cygwin being a cunt 2016-05-29T18:54:44 < Sync> so I had to run a linux vm all the time, which made running windows kinda useless 2016-05-29T18:55:20 < Tectu> well that doesn't make windows "suck" or being bad. Just the inappropriate tool for what you wanted to do. 2016-05-29T18:55:52 < Fleck> yeah Sync, give your money and it will work! :P 2016-05-29T18:56:36 < Tectu> nah c'mon. that's like bitching around that a screwdriver sucks because you couldn't cut a board with it. 2016-05-29T18:57:06 < Tectu> any tools becomes "unusable" (to use the term that Sync used) if you use it for the wrong thing. 2016-05-29T18:57:16 < Sync> so what is it good for then? 2016-05-29T18:57:22 < Tectu> and no, I am not a windows fanboy. Just recognizing that many people bitch about windows these days while windows ain't that bad anymore 2016-05-29T18:57:29 < Tectu> getting office work done :P 2016-05-29T18:57:34 < Tectu> every day OS for non-geeks 2016-05-29T18:57:52 < Sync> probably 2016-05-29T18:58:06 < Sync> or, possibly, I don't know 2016-05-29T19:00:41 < Sync> I could live with it now, yes, but it compeltely kills my productivity 2016-05-29T19:06:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-29T19:07:11 < Tectu> yes, that may very well be possible. Most likely like a Linux distribution would kill the productivity of a secretary that has only worked with Windows before. Not sure if you'd like that person saying that Linux is crap and unusable :P 2016-05-29T19:08:41 < englishman> win10 is great 2016-05-29T19:08:48 < englishman> so, only problems are lunix-related? 2016-05-29T19:08:50 < englishman> ie not problems 2016-05-29T19:09:30 < englishman> for lunix stuff, i have a box with native lunix install and nomachine into it 2016-05-29T19:09:32 < englishman> works gr8 2016-05-29T19:10:02 < englishman> its actually more powerful cpu than desktop 2016-05-29T19:14:17 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-29T19:17:39 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T19:24:35 < Rob235> ugh, terrible bob marley cover 2016-05-29T19:24:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-29T19:25:08 < Tectu> stop vaping. 2016-05-29T19:25:13 < Rob235> haha WHY 2016-05-29T19:29:56 < Rob235> playing johnny cash now, good music choices but his voice sucks 2016-05-29T19:35:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.166] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T19:38:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T19:44:30 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/r4Ielsk.png 2016-05-29T19:44:34 < englishman> from new DOOM soundtrack 2016-05-29T19:45:07 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-29T19:45:14 < englishman> neat easteregg 2016-05-29T19:52:17 < Thorn> https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/14xrqm/if_you_run_the_song_equation_by_aphex_twin/ 2016-05-29T19:54:23 < Steffanx> heh nice 2016-05-29T19:57:15 < Thorn> http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=9161 too bad dongs is asleep 2016-05-29T19:58:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T20:05:11 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T20:09:20 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-29T20:24:45 < bartekww> guys 2016-05-29T20:24:58 < bartekww> i want to build programmer for flash 2016-05-29T20:24:59 < bartekww> spi 2016-05-29T20:25:00 < bartekww> etc 2016-05-29T20:25:03 < bartekww> eprom 2016-05-29T20:25:04 < bartekww> eeprom 2016-05-29T20:25:13 < bartekww> which stm32 will be good 2016-05-29T20:25:20 < bartekww> not too big not too small 2016-05-29T20:29:15 < bvernoux> bartekww: STM32F405 ;) 2016-05-29T20:30:26 < bvernoux> bartekww: I think your project is what I'm doing with HydraBus (even if it is not only a SPI/FLASH/EEPROM programmer) 2016-05-29T20:30:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-29T20:39:08 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T20:48:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T20:55:08 -!- fenugrec_ is now known as fenugrec 2016-05-29T20:59:15 < Emil> Would you happen to know if the usb charging circuits care if I generate the voltage to the data pins with pwm? 2016-05-29T21:27:44 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/dp34ORM 2016-05-29T21:32:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-29T21:40:01 < Steffanx> Such scripted upgrdman. 2016-05-29T21:41:06 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-05-29T21:44:49 < Tectu> why are people so horny about easter-eggs 2016-05-29T21:46:53 < Steffanx> because cool when done nicely. 2016-05-29T21:47:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T21:57:09 < jpa-> Emil: what voltage? 2016-05-29T21:57:52 < jpa-> Emil: are you making a charger or a device? for USB 2 BC or for USB-C PD? 2016-05-29T21:58:03 < Emil> jpa-: you know how the chargers usually have simple voltage divider(s) 2016-05-29T21:58:23 < jpa-> no, USB 2 BC standard chargers just have the data pins connected together i think 2016-05-29T21:58:32 < Emil> jpa-: yeah, the "standard" 2016-05-29T21:58:43 < jpa-> the old apple chargers had resistor dividers but i think new apple ones support USB BC also 2016-05-29T21:58:50 < Emil> but I want to be able to provide the max 2A that most want to pull 2016-05-29T21:59:09 < Emil> because I tested, and simply connecting the Datalines together doesn't result in max current pull, at least with samsung 2016-05-29T21:59:10 < jpa-> well, i guess that filtered PWM (resistor + capacitor) should work 2016-05-29T21:59:16 < jpa-> hmm, ok 2016-05-29T21:59:34 < Emil> jpa-: Apparently the phone does some sort of impedance testing 2016-05-29T21:59:40 < Emil> but what kind of? 2016-05-29T21:59:52 < jpa-> without standard, hard to say 2016-05-29T22:00:02 < Emil> indeed and that's why I asked here ; ) 2016-05-29T22:00:06 < jpa-> you could test with lab psu by feeding adjustable voltage through resistor 2016-05-29T22:00:26 < upgrdman> ahaha https://gfycat.com/ScaredNarrowGrassspider 2016-05-29T22:02:30 < Emil> upgrdman: ygh :D 2016-05-29T22:02:34 < Emil> jpa-: hmm, true 2016-05-29T22:21:39 < bartekww> how to start with programming STM32 on linux? 2016-05-29T22:21:46 < bartekww> i use only vim + Makefile 2016-05-29T22:24:16 < Emil> bartekww: http://regalis.com.pl/en/arm-cortex-stm32-gnulinux/ 2016-05-29T22:24:23 < Emil> that one was pretty okay to follow 2016-05-29T22:26:16 < bartekww> heh Polish site 2016-05-29T22:26:50 < Emil> bartekww: in English, fortunately 2016-05-29T22:27:18 < bartekww> that's better 2016-05-29T22:27:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-29T22:27:28 < bartekww> i prefer English over Polish 2016-05-29T22:44:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-29T22:44:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T22:56:40 < Steffanx> context is key. 2016-05-29T23:07:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-29T23:09:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T23:09:30 < Ecco> European pals: where do you guys purchase your prototyping solder? Which model? 2016-05-29T23:14:02 < kakimir> kunths 2016-05-29T23:26:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-29T23:28:24 < Rob235> can you disable the reset button on a discovery board? 2016-05-29T23:28:35 < Ecco> Sure, just unsolde rit 2016-05-29T23:28:41 < Rob235> that the only way? 2016-05-29T23:29:08 < Rob235> i mean in code, not sure how the reset button is hooked up 2016-05-29T23:29:44 < kakimir> some have gpio function in reset pin 2016-05-29T23:30:38 < Rob235> actually fuck it, this wiring is becoming so messy, I'm going to find a better way to do it 2016-05-29T23:35:21 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-05-29T23:35:34 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T23:35:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-29T23:38:49 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T23:45:42 < karlp> why would you want to disconnec tthe reset button? 2016-05-29T23:46:51 < karlp> Emil: there's also various versions of the USB BC standard too. 2016-05-29T23:47:02 < karlp> there's some TI ic tha tyou drop on the lines that can magically handle a lot of it. 2016-05-29T23:48:09 < mra90> have any of you ever have heard of casting pointer to volatile in C ? 2016-05-29T23:49:23 < Emil> karlp: apparently yeah, the galaxy s series follow the USB-IF BC v1.2 standard 2016-05-29T23:49:27 < Emil> would happen to know about it? 2016-05-29T23:50:19 -!- emeb [~ericb@184-98-37-143.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-29T23:51:35 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-3debe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-29T23:52:39 < Emil> ohsix: perfect captuire 2016-05-29T23:56:27 < karlp> Emil: the standards are all downloadable form usb.org, don't feel like reading it for you much right now sorry 2016-05-29T23:57:13 < Emil> karlp: didn't expect it 2016-05-29T23:57:24 < Emil> karlp: just hoped someone could tell me off their head .D --- Day changed Mon May 30 2016 2016-05-30T00:01:25 < Rob235> ohsix, the arms are great, it's the center where all the wires meet, I don't want to cut any wires yet because it's only temporary and I don't want to have to cut the wires twice 2016-05-30T00:01:41 < Rob235> it's actually coming out fine I think 2016-05-30T00:04:20 < Rob235> I still want to create a circuit board to clean up the wiring so I don't want to mess with it yet 2016-05-30T00:08:43 < Emil> ohsix: it's for a diy project 2016-05-30T00:10:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T00:12:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@184-98-37-143.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-30T00:12:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@184-98-37-143.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T00:22:33 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T00:23:15 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T00:28:28 -!- BrokenCog [~BrokenCog@pdpc/supporter/active/brokencog] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T00:35:09 < Rob235> so I'm not sure what's going on... If I connect the stm32f4 disco to my laptop to use usb power then everything works (leds and motors drawing power from lipo), if I disconnect usb and plug the pwr/gnd from a 5v ubec (connected to lipo) into 5v/gnd pins on the stm32 the stm32 lights up and everything gets power but the leds and motors don't do anything 2016-05-30T00:42:30 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T00:44:15 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-30T00:57:54 < PeterM> Rob235, looked at the 5v out of the ubec? is it noisy as fuck? 2016-05-30T00:59:16 < Rob235> I don't think so but i'll check again, let me also try connecting one of the motor bec wires to the stm32 to power it 2016-05-30T00:59:28 < Rob235> how do you check that? 2016-05-30T01:00:19 < Rob235> the motors are supposed to turn on after 2 seconds and are controlled by the throttle stick on my tx and the leds are supposed to start an animation with brightness controlled by a knob on the tx 2016-05-30T01:00:48 < Rob235> but nothing works, I tried just setting it to an infinite led blink loop at startup and nothing happens 2016-05-30T01:01:14 < Rob235> last statement was about the 4 little onboard leds 2016-05-30T01:01:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T01:02:03 < Rob235> so it's probably not coming out of reset correctly or whatever you were talking about 2016-05-30T01:04:59 < Rob235> using another bec didn't work either 2016-05-30T01:05:15 < Rob235> and what is too high? 2016-05-30T01:05:19 < PeterM> erm 2016-05-30T01:05:35 < PeterM> are you powering the stm32 straight from the 5v or you got a 3v3 reg there 2016-05-30T01:06:03 < Rob235> i'm connecting the 5v to the 5v on the stm32f4 2016-05-30T01:06:07 < Rob235> and gnd to gnd 2016-05-30T01:06:10 < Rob235> that's it 2016-05-30T01:06:35 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-30T01:06:48 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T01:07:34 -!- BrokenCog [~BrokenCog@pdpc/supporter/active/brokencog] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T01:13:09 < Rob235> ok so I powered it from usb but from a usb strip and it didn't work, plugged it back into my laptop and it worked 2016-05-30T01:13:15 < Rob235> grrr 2016-05-30T01:14:19 < PeterM> are the cables shorter o nyour laptop? is the laptops voltage higher? the laptops 5v is probably a lot cleaner 2016-05-30T01:14:55 < Rob235> I tried 3 other 5v sources and you think they are all shitty enough that the board wont boot? 2016-05-30T01:15:42 < Rob235> I used the same cable, I unplugged it from my laptop, plugged it into the usb strip, didn't flash the leds, unplugged it, plugged it into my laptop and it worked 2016-05-30T01:16:57 < Rob235> the com led is blinking 2016-05-30T01:20:36 < Rob235> could it be a jumper setting? 2016-05-30T01:23:30 < Rob235> http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/221895/stm32f407g-disc1-not-working-if-not-connected-to-pc 2016-05-30T01:32:13 -!- dale6998 [~dale@cpe-74-69-202-5.maine.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T01:32:17 < dale6998> hello 2016-05-30T01:32:33 < dale6998> anyone know how to get the nucleo board going on Arch linux? 2016-05-30T01:36:41 < dale6998> ok, so gcc arm embedded and then i can program with make? 2016-05-30T01:41:06 < Rob235> bahahaha, got it working, had to upgrade the st link firmware 2016-05-30T01:41:27 < Rob235> leds are blinking from lipo lets see if motors and ws2812 work also 2016-05-30T01:43:54 < Rob235> sweeeeeet 2016-05-30T01:44:05 < Rob235> everything finally running from lipo only 2016-05-30T01:44:30 -!- dale6998 [~dale@cpe-74-69-202-5.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-30T01:53:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T01:56:06 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T01:58:33 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-30T01:59:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T02:09:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T02:13:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-30T02:26:01 -!- dale6998 [~dale@cpe-74-69-202-5.maine.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T02:29:01 < dale6998> oshix 2016-05-30T02:29:04 < dale6998> you there? 2016-05-30T02:32:43 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-30T02:54:49 < dongs> Sync: depends on context and who wrote it 2016-05-30T03:09:36 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-30T03:09:48 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T03:10:50 < Laurenceb_> well that worked well 2016-05-30T03:11:03 < Laurenceb_> tried using System~Rescue live CD to fix my hard drive 2016-05-30T03:11:06 < Rob235> I saw a post that I linked to earlier that said it was a problem with a certain fw for stlink, doesn't let you run without being connected to pc or something, so I updated it and it started working 2016-05-30T03:11:16 < Laurenceb_> it booted now I'm back to previous state with read only file system 2016-05-30T03:12:58 < Rob235> yea before if I powered it from a 5v ubec connected to my lipo it wouldn't work, even connected via usb to a usb strip, had to be a computer for some reason 2016-05-30T03:13:02 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: SMART says 140 bad sectors 2016-05-30T03:15:01 < Rob235> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9sr60yvryu8o9s/20160529_200449.jpg?dl=0 not that pretty, the stm32 will slide in the drone about another inch when done so it won't stick out 'as' far. I'm ok with it until I create the circuit board 2016-05-30T03:15:03 -!- Emil [fihlmae1@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-legbjhzabmkkqcuv] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-05-30T03:15:16 < Laurenceb_> k 2016-05-30T03:16:14 < PeterM> i hope you intend to sodler down some of those wires, becuase i can see those vibratin lose reeeal easy 2016-05-30T03:26:57 < Laurenceb_> does esata include power? 2016-05-30T03:28:01 < Laurenceb_> ah ok 2016-05-30T03:28:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T03:28:05 < Laurenceb_> I have liek 4TB 2016-05-30T03:28:25 < Laurenceb_> was going to use eSATA port I've never touched to sync to new drive 2016-05-30T03:28:27 < Laurenceb_> close to 2016-05-30T03:28:41 < Laurenceb_> Western Digital, only 10 months old 2016-05-30T03:28:48 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-05-30T03:29:07 < Laurenceb_> maybe I can haxor eSATA with usb power, time to google 2016-05-30T03:31:24 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-05-30T03:31:25 < dongs> autism tech support hour 2016-05-30T03:31:30 < Laurenceb_> loldongs 2016-05-30T03:31:47 < Laurenceb_> *indian accent* hello you have reached tech support 2016-05-30T03:31:57 < Laurenceb_> have you tried turning it off and back on again 2016-05-30T03:32:22 -!- dale6998 [~dale@cpe-74-69-202-5.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-30T03:35:12 < Laurenceb_> ah simples 2016-05-30T03:35:13 < Laurenceb_> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CBSA03-80BK-Flexstor-eSATA-Cable/dp/B005GNP72M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464568496&sr=8-1&keywords=eSATA 2016-05-30T03:35:48 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCiLUjsg3cg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMPeNTWn_E0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tsG4DMBDvk 2016-05-30T03:37:57 < Thorn> some kind of Lissajous music 2016-05-30T03:47:04 < dongs> Thorn: there's no way to turn off top waveforms that are in time mode? 2016-05-30T03:47:05 < dongs> fuckin fail 2016-05-30T03:47:07 < dongs> fuck riglol 2016-05-30T03:47:37 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYfTPVsnH14 no top window here 2016-05-30T03:47:57 < dongs> right 2016-05-30T03:48:13 < dongs> lets see how it looks on my awesomscope 2016-05-30T03:49:51 < dongs> gonna need to find soemthign that fucking plays flac 2016-05-30T03:49:55 < dongs> useless opensores abortion 2016-05-30T03:53:06 < Thorn> can't find any image or video of a ds1000z with a full screen x-y waveform however (lol) 2016-05-30T03:53:15 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1JahOh3Lbg 2016-05-30T03:53:56 < englishman> i dont see any way to turn it off 2016-05-30T03:56:08 < englishman> old 1xxxe and 1xxxd you can turn off 2016-05-30T03:56:16 < englishman> looks like its a 'feature' 2016-05-30T04:04:24 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/xt1hqQW.png cant turn it off on tek either 2016-05-30T04:04:31 < dongs> watchignf their xy video they consider it a gr8 feature 2016-05-30T04:05:44 < englishman> requested software upgape from riglol to see if its fixed 2016-05-30T04:10:30 < aandrew> riglol, haha 2016-05-30T04:10:38 < aandrew> I have a shitty little hantek 2016-05-30T04:10:54 < dongs> http://debugmo.de/2013/03/whats-inside-tektronix-dpo5034/ wtf 2016-05-30T04:10:57 < aandrew> MSO5074FG, I have the intention of hacking away on it, replacing the analog muxes to get the bandwidth up 2016-05-30T04:11:19 < dongs> apparently they reuse same PCB between windows and lunix based shits 2016-05-30T04:11:29 < dongs> but they nonpopulate PPC processor + ram for the windows versions 2016-05-30T04:12:15 < dongs> The DPO5000 comes with an integrated PC that connects to the rest of the scope via a PCI-Express link to “Mia” (via a PLX PCI-Express bridge). The DPO4000 does not have this PC (nor the PCIe bridge) - instead, it has an on-board PowerPC processor that interfaces to Mia, and a few support peripherals (Ethernet Phy, Flash, RAM). 2016-05-30T04:13:00 < aandrew> oh I know all about those kinds of IC 2016-05-30T04:13:01 < aandrew> Ics 2016-05-30T04:15:42 < dongs> aandrew: hah that page mentions about a lpf on input 2016-05-30T04:15:45 < dongs> are yo ugonna desolder that 2016-05-30T04:15:54 < aandrew> I don't have that scope 2016-05-30T04:15:59 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2016-05-30T04:16:06 < aandrew> and the AFE attenuators on my scope are ~200MHz 2016-05-30T04:16:09 < Laurenceb_> could they make it any more overcomplex 2016-05-30T04:16:12 < aandrew> but the analog IC is 70MHz 2016-05-30T04:16:14 < aandrew> er analog mux 2016-05-30T04:16:20 < dongs> < aandrew> MSO5074FG, I have the intention of hacking away on it, replacing the analog muxes to get the bandwidth up 2016-05-30T04:16:29 < dongs> mso5074 = thats hantek? 2016-05-30T04:16:35 < aandrew> yes 2016-05-30T04:16:45 < dongs> oh okay the part# looked similar to the shit i pasted 2016-05-30T04:16:53 < dongs> 5000 series but 70mhz bw lol 2016-05-30T04:17:04 < dongs> by tek numbering that'd be sometlike 7ghz 2016-05-30T04:18:12 < upgrdman> so on the stm32f0 im using semihosting to send fucktons of text to the pc. it's slowing shit down, even interrupts. is it possible to adjust the priority of semihosting so everything else is more important? 2016-05-30T04:18:27 < dongs> rblog that shit. 2016-05-30T04:18:32 < dongs> why are you sending so much crap to pc? 2016-05-30T04:18:36 < upgrdman> rblog? 2016-05-30T04:18:38 < dongs> if its debug shit, just watch the vars??? 2016-05-30T04:18:44 < dongs> rblog = zyps ram logger thingy 2016-05-30T04:18:45 < upgrdman> its just telemetry shit 2016-05-30T04:18:47 < dongs> that you can pull later 2016-05-30T04:18:49 < upgrdman> o 2016-05-30T04:20:11 < upgrdman> so i cant make semidicking low priority? :( 2016-05-30T04:21:48 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurence@host86-178-14-144.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-30T04:30:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-30T04:30:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T04:36:46 < englishman> upgraded riglol, same shit 2016-05-30T04:37:39 < englishman> at least it kept all my haxd features 2016-05-30T04:47:28 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-05-30T04:47:40 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T04:49:08 -!- emeb [~ericb@184-98-37-143.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-30T04:54:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T04:58:46 < dongs> https://www.curtisswrightds.com/products/cots-boards/ there's enough in here for ohsix to assburger for hours 2016-05-30T05:13:55 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T05:39:39 < upgrdman> on stm32f0, if i want to do uart tx via dma, the only extra stuff i need for dma is to enable dma1 clock, enable uart tx via dma, and configure the DMA1_Channel1 registers, right? 2016-05-30T05:42:55 < dongs> is channel1 the one that handles usart thing? 2016-05-30T05:43:36 < upgrdman> uh wut 2016-05-30T05:43:45 < upgrdman> only some channels can be used with certain periphs? 2016-05-30T05:43:48 < dongs> yes... 2016-05-30T05:43:51 < dongs> there's a table 2016-05-30T05:43:53 < dongs> lemme see where 2016-05-30T05:43:54 < dongs> which f0? 2016-05-30T05:43:55 < upgrdman> fuck. back to the ref man :) 2016-05-30T05:43:58 < upgrdman> f051 2016-05-30T05:44:33 < dongs> RM0091 page 202 2016-05-30T05:44:44 < dongs> channel2 is usart1_tx 2016-05-30T05:44:59 < upgrdman> hehe ya. fuck me. thx 2016-05-30T05:45:08 < dongs> well, looks like you can seelect usart one to different channels 2016-05-30T05:45:11 < dongs> buyt yeah anyway, its fixed 2016-05-30T05:45:14 < upgrdman> why do they do it like that. even lpc aids is like any channel for any thing 2016-05-30T05:45:15 < dongs> and ch1 isnt it 2016-05-30T05:45:25 < dongs> this is the old F1-style DMA 2016-05-30T05:45:29 < dongs> its a bit better on F4 but 2016-05-30T05:45:31 < dongs> still fixed channels 2016-05-30T05:45:49 < dongs> it is kinda shit cuz like 2016-05-30T05:45:53 < aandrew> updated microchip crack. 2016-05-30T05:45:54 < dongs> say you wanna spi1_rx and tim1_ch1 2016-05-30T05:45:56 < aandrew> fuck that 2016-05-30T05:45:58 < dongs> and nope 2016-05-30T05:46:00 < aandrew> stupid shit 2016-05-30T05:46:08 < dongs> microchip crack what 2016-05-30T05:46:11 < dongs> are you assburering 2016-05-30T05:46:19 < dongs> +g somewehre in there 2016-05-30T05:47:55 < aandrew> just updating shit 2016-05-30T05:48:08 < aandrew> had 1.11 for a while 2016-05-30T05:48:15 < aandrew> then someone wanted to take my work and build it htemselves 2016-05-30T05:48:19 < aandrew> but 1.37 failed 2016-05-30T05:48:23 < aandrew> some idiotic shit 2016-05-30T05:48:28 < aandrew> so I updated, same failure 2016-05-30T05:49:01 < aandrew> walked from 1.31 to 1.37 and 1.35 works fine, but 1.37 fails 2016-05-30T05:49:06 < aandrew> so stupid ass microhcip shit 2016-05-30T05:49:18 < dongs> mplab or someshit? 2016-05-30T05:49:23 < aandrew> eyah mplab shit 2016-05-30T05:50:04 < aandrew> anyway the crack I had (xclm hack) didn't work with 1.32ish+ so I found the newer crack 2016-05-30T05:50:30 < aandrew> sonsivri shit 2016-05-30T05:51:53 < dongs> man only 5 dma channels on 050 such fail 2016-05-30T05:52:16 < dongs> my solution to proprietary microchip software is: not using microchip shit 2016-05-30T05:54:46 < englishman> whole f0 has gimped dma and nvic 2016-05-30T05:54:56 < englishman> cuz cortex m0 i guess 2016-05-30T05:58:25 < upgrdman> dongs, ya this is my first dma with stm32. kinda feel like im backing to dicking with PICs 2016-05-30T05:58:33 < upgrdman> how many dma ch's does f4 have 2016-05-30T05:58:37 < upgrdman> like 16 or someshit? 2016-05-30T05:59:29 < upgrdman> oh shit, that reminds me, i need to order an f4disco before i get shanghaied 2016-05-30T05:59:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-30T06:00:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T06:02:03 < dongs> (137): fatal error C1001: An internal error has occurred in the compiler. 2016-05-30T06:02:05 < dongs> good job microsoft 2016-05-30T06:03:50 < upgrdman> is this one of those my-debugger-crashed, where-is-your-god-now moments? 2016-05-30T06:04:33 < dongs> nah just sounds liek shitty qc 2016-05-30T06:04:37 < dongs> cleaning/rebuilding fixed it 2016-05-30T06:04:51 < dongs> they do all that "do we need t o rebuild this shit" optimizations during compile that it probly broke somethign 2016-05-30T06:24:17 < upgrdman> yes, finally. uart at 1MBaud is so much fucker nicer than semihosting printf's. 2016-05-30T06:28:03 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node202.9.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T06:28:25 < upgrdman> ohsix, so replace the speakers? or no money? 2016-05-30T06:30:53 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Mouse-driver-Windows/ 2016-05-30T06:30:54 < dongs> lol 2016-05-30T06:31:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T06:31:25 < upgrdman> i googled and supposed core is halted duing semidicking 2016-05-30T06:31:32 < upgrdman> and even if it wasnt 2016-05-30T06:31:40 < upgrdman> its slow as shit compared to uart+dma tx 2016-05-30T06:32:14 < upgrdman> ya i did that, and manually flushed, but still. like the bandwidth for semidicking is too low 2016-05-30T06:32:32 < upgrdman> maybe i need to use something more pro than a $3 stlink2 clone 2016-05-30T06:33:52 < upgrdman> k 2016-05-30T06:33:59 < Rob235> oi 2016-05-30T06:35:19 -!- zauslande [~zauslande@node202.9.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-30T06:35:31 < upgrdman> ohsix, i did that. like buffered 22 printf() 2016-05-30T06:35:39 < upgrdman> then manually fflush()'d 2016-05-30T06:35:46 < upgrdman> but still. its like 115200 uart 2016-05-30T06:44:53 < upgrdman> wtf. printf() wont pad floats with leading zeros if you tell it to always show the sign (like %+02.3f) 2016-05-30T06:46:25 < upgrdman> no 2016-05-30T06:47:48 < upgrdman> thx 2016-05-30T06:58:07 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-30T07:00:06 < upgrdman> surround == foam cock ring on the outside edge of the cone? 2016-05-30T07:02:58 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272253624084 time to bid with paypals 2016-05-30T07:03:44 < upgrdman> "1230 watchers" lol 2016-05-30T07:04:22 < upgrdman> TBH im kinda surprised starting bid is 300k 2016-05-30T07:04:29 < upgrdman> like thats cheaper than most houses 2016-05-30T07:04:42 < dongs> you could make a house inside of that 2016-05-30T07:04:47 < dongs> assuming you had hte land to park it on 2016-05-30T07:04:52 < dongs> and it'd be a pretty good house too 2016-05-30T07:05:18 < dongs> < upgrdman> "1230 watchers" lol 2016-05-30T07:05:19 < dongs> 1231 now 2016-05-30T07:05:23 < dongs> upgrdman clicked i guess 2016-05-30T07:05:23 < upgrdman> oh its just airframe 2016-05-30T07:05:51 < dongs> who teh fuck needs engines anyway 2016-05-30T07:05:57 < dongs> what are you gonna do with it 2016-05-30T07:06:20 < upgrdman> was i thought it might be flyable :) well hoped. 2016-05-30T07:06:26 < dongs> lol 2016-05-30T07:06:41 < dongs> all avionics are gone too 2016-05-30T07:06:47 < dongs> cockpit is completely empty 2016-05-30T07:06:50 < upgrdman> ya 2016-05-30T07:07:55 < dongs> haha they left all the IFE monitors 2016-05-30T07:08:09 < dongs> whoever gets this is gonna have like 300 ? or wahtever shitty-rez aerospace-certified LCD monitors 2016-05-30T07:09:43 < dongs> paypal that shit and turn it into airbnb 2016-05-30T07:10:01 < dongs> literally "air" 2016-05-30T07:10:16 < englishman> youll have to pay rent at orlando-sanford 2016-05-30T07:10:28 < englishman> or sawzall off the wings and tow it 2016-05-30T07:10:54 < dongs> they say they can take the wings off but how the fuck are they gonna transport the rest? 2016-05-30T07:11:10 < englishman> probably have a pic of it here https://goo.gl/maps/Ux8VGtV7dWM2 2016-05-30T07:11:41 < dongs> is that the graveyard 2016-05-30T07:12:15 < englishman> possibly 2016-05-30T07:13:47 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T07:13:54 < aandrew> I put a type R sticker on my lawnmower. got an extra 10HP out of it 2016-05-30T07:14:07 < englishman> hm no 747s in that graveyard 2016-05-30T07:16:19 < dongs> why dont they sell any of those? 2016-05-30T07:17:03 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T07:17:07 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-30T07:42:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T07:55:29 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iccGqmEC-M why. is. this. on. youtube. 2016-05-30T07:56:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T07:58:48 < PeterM> why is that anything mroe than a picture of a schematic. 2016-05-30T07:58:55 < dongs> thats my point 2016-05-30T08:02:25 < dongs> haha, pal bought sunkko spotwelder 2016-05-30T08:02:27 < dongs> 1.9kw 2016-05-30T08:02:29 < dongs> 150$ 2016-05-30T08:02:33 < dongs> expecting it to blow up 2016-05-30T08:03:15 < PeterM> is it a CDT spotwelder? 2016-05-30T08:03:38 < dongs> fuck knows. checking url 2016-05-30T08:04:01 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/chinese-bomb/126412_1702832700.html 2016-05-30T08:04:32 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T08:04:35 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@69-165-148-226.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T08:05:00 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@69-165-148-226.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-30T08:05:00 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T08:05:40 < dongs> 500A 2016-05-30T08:05:40 < dongs> nice 2016-05-30T08:13:30 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-30T08:47:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-30T08:47:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-efebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T08:50:59 < upgrdman> ohsix, you should wire up that siren to some coworker's atx pc speaker 2016-05-30T08:51:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER] 2016-05-30T08:52:16 < Thorn> 1 atm pressure = 191dB according to google 2016-05-30T08:52:31 < Thorn> so it would have to contain a bomb 2016-05-30T08:54:29 < upgrdman> Thorn, ? not possible to exceed 1atm by jiggling a diaphram quickly and hard? 2016-05-30T08:56:01 < PeterM> 14.7psi? seems pretty easy 2016-05-30T08:56:51 < Thorn> >there is a sound pressure limit for undistorted sound. Over that limit we have a shock wave. 2016-05-30T09:07:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-efebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T09:26:42 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T09:31:03 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T09:32:40 < dongs> upgrdman: ohsix has no job or coworkers 2016-05-30T09:34:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T09:37:37 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T09:52:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.81] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T10:06:41 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-05-30T10:09:51 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T10:12:33 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T10:16:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T10:49:03 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T10:50:05 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T10:55:22 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 300 seconds.] 2016-05-30T10:57:35 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:03:45 -!- droidicus [uid120579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zzcjjwivgxsrizek] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-05-30T11:06:28 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-30T11:06:41 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-05-30T11:07:13 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:09:49 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:11:25 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-05-30T11:14:26 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:15:03 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T11:15:44 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:19:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.145] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:27:16 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:31:44 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:34:42 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-30T11:38:14 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T11:38:16 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d172-218-25-1.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T11:45:51 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7706b8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-30T11:46:52 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-30T11:53:03 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-30T11:56:29 < bartekww> hey 2016-05-30T11:56:39 < bartekww> i can use any pin as spi? 2016-05-30T11:56:48 < bartekww> f5 2016-05-30T11:57:46 < qyx> f5? 2016-05-30T11:58:27 < qyx> is there a new family I have missed? 2016-05-30T12:02:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T12:02:50 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T12:04:44 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-30T12:05:00 < dongs> you can use any pin as SPI if you wanna bitbang it 2016-05-30T12:11:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T12:17:33 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T12:21:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T13:02:48 < rewolff> Ohsix... what's that? 2016-05-30T13:03:28 < rewolff> You mean they forced an upgrade on you too? 2016-05-30T13:04:27 < rewolff> My phone showed a "boot splash" screen. Then it wouldn't respond to anything I did, so I turned it off and on again. Then it went through the procedure that it went through last time after I authorized an upgrade.... 2016-05-30T13:05:05 < dongs> autism upgrade 2016-05-30T13:05:11 < rewolff> This time no questions. (But a > five minute "no phone", and in fact a "missed alarm".) 2016-05-30T13:06:46 < Taxman> my android never does unexpected things 2016-05-30T13:12:39 < bartekww> ohsix: how to bitbang spi 2016-05-30T13:28:33 < dongs> crt: its the 'ohsix brings a clone and chats to himself" hour 2016-05-30T13:34:54 < dongs> http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/1-dead-2-missing-in-washington-county/218276221 2016-05-30T13:34:59 < dongs> > inside flooding truck 2016-05-30T13:35:02 < dongs> > quick, post on facebook 2016-05-30T13:36:28 < dongs> http://vrporn.com/free-vr-goggles-giveaway/?ao_confirm 2016-05-30T13:37:54 < dongs> ohsix should sign up, that'll keep him "busy" for a while 2016-05-30T13:44:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-30T13:47:23 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-05-30T13:49:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T14:01:28 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-05-30T14:03:38 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-47.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T14:05:12 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T14:08:01 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Create-clear-working-schematic-Bom/ 2016-05-30T14:08:05 < dongs> what the actual fuck 2016-05-30T14:08:17 < dongs> $22 budget k 2016-05-30T14:08:24 < dongs> I think he meant to actually enter 1500$ 2016-05-30T14:11:17 < Sync> you mean finally someone on freecancer that has an actual budget? 2016-05-30T14:12:02 < dongs> freecancer, haha 2016-05-30T14:20:55 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T14:25:50 < __rob2> seems to be all indians on there that are bidding 2016-05-30T14:26:11 < __rob2> not sure how anyone in the west could compete when you can live there for a fraction of the cost 2016-05-30T14:35:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-30T14:44:34 < PeterM> __rob2, jsut shit in the streets *rolls eyes* 2016-05-30T14:45:29 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-05-30T14:45:47 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-30T14:45:59 < Thorn> why freelancer and not upwork 2016-05-30T14:49:19 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T14:50:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T14:50:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-30T14:55:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T15:03:21 < rcc> ffs... I had a package stuck in customs for 21 days because the DHL officer that was taking care of it went on vacation 2016-05-30T15:04:31 -!- rcc [~razvan@86.124.193.161] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-30T15:04:37 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T15:04:47 < jadew> ffs... I had a package stuck in customs for 21 days because the DHL officer that was taking care of it went on vacation 2016-05-30T15:04:48 < jadew> :D 2016-05-30T15:05:41 -!- CRTT [~autiste@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T15:06:00 < jadew> I called them a couple of times but the people I talked to said "she's not in the office" 2016-05-30T15:06:15 < jadew> I guess being on vacation qualifies as "not in the office" 2016-05-30T15:07:17 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T15:12:46 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-30T15:14:33 -!- CRTT [~autiste@c110-22-179-66.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T15:17:28 -!- jadew [~razvan@86.124.193.161] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T15:36:38 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T15:42:30 < Steffanx> Lol jadew be careful. Soon dongs will say you talk to yourself and stuff(re the rcc guy with the same msg) 2016-05-30T15:43:28 < Steffanx> Im glad i never had customs issues. 2016-05-30T15:47:03 < jadew> there's a first time for everything :) 2016-05-30T15:47:12 < jadew> I never had customs issues either 2016-05-30T15:47:44 < jadew> I don't think this even qualifies as a customs issue tho 2016-05-30T16:07:34 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T16:07:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T16:32:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-30T16:36:39 < bartekww> Thorn: ohsix jadew http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-1pcs-STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduin0-new/32391407504.html?aff_platform=aaf&aff_trace_key=a927f79ec6074d64ba5128b9b1810012-1464615388057-01021-fu7amAEyF&sk=fu7amAEyF%3A&cpt=1464615388057&cv&dp=0&af=cc will be good? 2016-05-30T16:36:49 < bartekww> stm32f103 2016-05-30T16:37:10 < bartekww> want to make an spi programmer 2016-05-30T16:37:14 < bartekww> flash 2016-05-30T16:37:16 < bartekww> eeproms 2016-05-30T16:37:18 < bartekww> eproms 2016-05-30T16:37:18 < bartekww> etc 2016-05-30T16:37:22 < bartekww> xor 2016-05-30T16:44:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.112] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T16:50:06 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-30T16:55:55 < Sync> then make one bartekww 2016-05-30T17:04:01 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T17:06:37 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T17:07:55 < Rob235_> http://i.imgur.com/AHiLL1r.jpg the wires coming out of the stm32, can I just gently bend them to the side and put a zip tie around everything to keep everything in place? 2016-05-30T17:08:44 < aandrew> that'll work great until the vibration from all those motors starts causing intermittent connections during flight 2016-05-30T17:08:55 < Rob235_> so they need to be soldered? 2016-05-30T17:10:32 < Thorn> Rob235_: something may go wrong https://youtu.be/WNWEQVuTEo0?t=29s 2016-05-30T17:11:11 < aandrew> man when those things go up they really go up 2016-05-30T17:11:17 < Rob235_> Thorn: that looked like a success to me :) 2016-05-30T17:11:55 < Rob235_> so what is a good way to connect them? 2016-05-30T17:12:04 < Rob235_> use m/m jumper wires and solder them to the pins? 2016-05-30T17:12:09 < Rob235_> or wire in general 2016-05-30T17:12:35 < Thorn> solder + maybe some strain relief 2016-05-30T17:12:38 < Thorn> I guess 2016-05-30T17:13:13 < aandrew> solder or connector with positive locking mechanism 2016-05-30T17:13:58 < Rob235_> what if I just cover the whole thing in hot glue :) 2016-05-30T17:14:00 < aandrew> Hirose Df13 series is good if you need tiny wires 2016-05-30T17:17:37 < aandrew> do yourself a favour and buy the pre-crimped wires. they're a bit of a bitch to crimp yourself 2016-05-30T17:17:43 < aandrew> but they work really, really well 2016-05-30T17:20:06 < Rob235_> and how do you connect that to the stm32 pins? solder wires to the stm32pins with the connectors on the other side that plug into my protoboard? 2016-05-30T17:22:29 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-30T17:22:55 -!- dale6998 [~dale@cpe-74-69-202-5.maine.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T17:27:10 < Thorn> design and build a dedicated board 2016-05-30T17:28:03 < Rob235_> it's on the list, but I want to fly it before I get to that point 2016-05-30T17:28:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-30T17:38:40 -!- dale6998 [~dale@cpe-74-69-202-5.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T17:57:22 < karlp> then don't worry about robust connectors, fly it until it crashes, use that as the point to rebuild 2016-05-30T17:58:34 < Rob235_> I think I like that idea 2016-05-30T18:05:40 < Rob235_> wish I had a scale to weigh this beast 2016-05-30T18:12:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-47.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-30T18:14:47 -!- aandrew [foobar@162.219.0.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-30T18:15:03 -!- talsit [foobar@162.219.0.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T18:15:32 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T18:17:47 -!- aandrew [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T18:17:53 -!- aandrew is now known as Guest27863 2016-05-30T18:18:00 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T18:24:40 < Ecco> Guys, which kind of battery would you think is safer? Li-Ion or Li-Po? 2016-05-30T18:25:09 -!- Guest27863 is now known as aandrew 2016-05-30T18:26:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-30T18:35:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.81] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T18:41:12 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T18:45:29 < Sync> aandrew: that is why I love deutsch autosport connectors 2016-05-30T18:50:57 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T18:55:06 < karlp> Ecco: aren't they the same? 2016-05-30T19:01:14 < Ecco> no? 2016-05-30T19:05:50 < Ecco> are they? 2016-05-30T19:10:34 -!- jadew [~razvan@86.124.193.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-30T19:11:25 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T19:14:52 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.26.169.235] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T19:15:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:7428:e362:f65:ccd8] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T19:25:33 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T19:35:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.248.151] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T19:41:46 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T19:44:20 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T20:03:35 < qyx> lipo is considered safer by the internets 2016-05-30T20:07:32 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775de6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T20:09:44 < englishman> quick release pistons 2016-05-30T20:10:00 < englishman> by li-ion maybe you mean life? 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2016-05-30T21:44:29 < Tectu> yes 2016-05-30T21:44:30 < mra90> I see a lot of functions declared with __weak in nucleo example codes but there is no definition of "__weak" ... 2016-05-30T21:44:35 < Tectu> double-underscore usually is. 2016-05-30T21:45:13 < Tectu> check this out mra90 http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.faqs/ka14171.html 2016-05-30T21:45:33 < mra90> Tectu: thank you 2016-05-30T21:45:58 < mra90> I was expecting to find answer on mankier.com 2016-05-30T21:46:01 < jpa-> Tectu: you can just keep going "You need to provide me a minimal runnable program that reproduces the problem" until they get bored and go away 2016-05-30T21:46:08 < jpa-> works for me atleast 2016-05-30T21:46:09 < mra90> since this is webste of arm-gnu-eabi... 2016-05-30T21:46:12 < Tectu> the fuck is mankier.com 2016-05-30T21:46:26 < Tectu> jpa-, that's how you stop having friends 2016-05-30T21:46:36 < jpa-> oh 2016-05-30T21:46:41 < jpa-> i guess that explains it 2016-05-30T21:47:57 < Rob235_> bow chica wow wow 2016-05-30T21:49:18 < ReadError> god 2016-05-30T21:49:25 < ReadError> can MS make updates any more creepy 2016-05-30T21:49:31 < ReadError> "we've updated your computer" 2016-05-30T21:49:41 < ReadError> "all your files are exactly where you left them" 2016-05-30T21:50:13 < Rob235_> "I may have rubbed them on my balls first" 2016-05-30T21:51:01 < mitrax> WE ALREADY CONTROL THE HORIZONTAL AND THE VERTICAL 2016-05-30T21:55:14 < Tectu> hahahaha 2016-05-30T22:12:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:a0ef:425f:98e0:a9b9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T22:27:36 -!- theAdib [~theadib@dslb-088-075-093-234.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T22:32:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-30T22:54:25 < mra90> ehh what is the difference between File search and C/C++ search in Eclipse based IDEs ? 2016-05-30T22:54:40 < mra90> suprisingly one find what I need and one doesn't 2016-05-30T22:55:25 < mra90> lol, I searched with file search throught whole workspace for typedef and nothing same query with c/C++ search was sucesfull o.0 2016-05-30T23:04:40 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-05-30T23:09:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:7428:e362:f65:ccd8] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-30T23:16:09 < upgrdman> so i was lazy and didnt write function prototypes. shit didnt work. i added prototypes and now it works. why? i was always calling the functions with the correct arguments. 2016-05-30T23:19:12 < zyp> upgrdman, didn't work how? 2016-05-30T23:19:36 < upgrdman> wrong value for floats, some c-strings were pointers to the wrong location 2016-05-30T23:20:15 < zyp> ah, across multiple files? 2016-05-30T23:20:43 < upgrdman> well the caller was in a different file than the definition 2016-05-30T23:20:55 < zyp> right 2016-05-30T23:21:26 < zyp> so the caller doesn't know the function signature and just makes up one based on how you call it 2016-05-30T23:21:38 < upgrdman> yes. 2016-05-30T23:21:45 < upgrdman> and why would the made up one be wrong? 2016-05-30T23:22:01 < upgrdman> is the algorithm non deterministic? 2016-05-30T23:22:21 < zyp> doesn't have anything to do with determinism 2016-05-30T23:24:26 < zyp> I'm not sure about the specifics, since it's bad practice and disallowed in C++, but my guess is that the arguments you're passing in doesn't match the types exactly 2016-05-30T23:24:44 < zyp> e.g. passing a double into a function expecting a float 2016-05-30T23:25:17 < zyp> easy to do with literals or type coercion 2016-05-30T23:27:33 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-05-30T23:27:35 < upgrdman> ok 2016-05-30T23:27:57 < upgrdman> i think im passing the right shit. a string literal is a char[] right? or is char* different? 2016-05-30T23:28:45 < zyp> not when being a function argument 2016-05-30T23:29:28 < zyp> hmm, interesting 2016-05-30T23:30:48 < zyp> if I make a void foo(float) and call it without declaring it, both a double literal and a float literal ends up passing in -0 2016-05-30T23:31:02 < zyp> probably an ABI issue 2016-05-30T23:31:33 < zyp> I'm also getting «warning: implicit declaration of function 'foo' is invalid in C99» 2016-05-30T23:32:21 < upgrdman> i got warnings, but ignored them :) 2016-05-30T23:32:32 < upgrdman> just surprised since this never bit me before 2016-05-30T23:32:41 < upgrdman> oh well, i updated my headers. problem solved. 2016-05-30T23:38:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-30T23:42:03 < Rob235_> looks like a scorpion: http://i.imgur.com/6eC3RaP.jpg 2016-05-30T23:42:20 < zyp> upgrdman, ah, float arguments are always promoted to double before generating the implicit declaration 2016-05-30T23:42:59 < zyp> variadic functions works the same way, which is why printf doesn't distinguish between floats and doubles, they all end up being doubles 2016-05-30T23:43:43 < zyp> and that's why it'll break if you have a function taking a float without an explicit declaration telling the caller that 2016-05-30T23:44:07 < zyp> other types probably have similar issues 2016-05-30T23:52:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-30T23:57:00 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] --- Day changed Tue May 31 2016 2016-05-31T00:02:12 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-31T00:02:18 < qyx> zyp: was that llvm or gcc? 2016-05-31T00:02:37 < qyx> I am not getting those warnings and I am compiling exclusively in C99 mode 2016-05-31T00:03:06 < qyx> I don't do implicit declarations though 2016-05-31T00:03:18 < qyx> either way I haven't seen that warning yet 2016-05-31T00:07:01 < zyp> I'm getting the same warning with both clang and gcc 2016-05-31T00:07:33 < zyp> clang says «implicit declaration of function 'foo' is invalid in C99» while gcc says «implicit declaration of function 'foo'» 2016-05-31T00:07:49 < zyp> neither says anything in c89 mode 2016-05-31T00:08:00 < zyp> I'm not adding any warning flags 2016-05-31T00:08:14 < qyx> aha, yes, the second one is common 2016-05-31T00:08:28 < qyx> I was just curious about the C99 part emmited by clang 2016-05-31T00:08:59 < qyx> uh, emitted 2016-05-31T00:20:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.248.151] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-31T00:35:57 < zyp> eh, it's not a reason, it's a result of it 2016-05-31T00:36:04 < zyp> the entire reason is function overloading 2016-05-31T00:36:28 < kakimir> http://i.imgur.com/gZ362.gif hello stoners 2016-05-31T00:37:29 < zyp> every function needs a unique symbol, so when the names themselves aren't unique anymore, type information needs to be added to the symbol 2016-05-31T00:42:15 < zyp> templating also counts as function overloading 2016-05-31T00:43:26 < zyp> uh, as opposed to what? 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2016-05-31T01:26:05 < Rob235_> need at least 4 or 5 2016-05-31T01:26:21 < Rob235_> lots to clean up 2016-05-31T01:30:04 < Rob235_> can't have a dry spot 2016-05-31T01:36:37 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-170-209-210.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T01:42:26 -!- theAdib [~theadib@dslb-088-075-093-234.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-05-31T01:45:36 < kakimir> Laurenceb: eurotrip unkonfirmed 2016-05-31T01:46:43 < kakimir> were you 14? 2016-05-31T01:46:48 < kakimir> when you watched it 2016-05-31T01:48:44 < englishman> matt damon was the best part 2016-05-31T01:49:24 < BrainDamage> did he get rescued too? 2016-05-31T01:49:42 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnPWJOJYVKc 2016-05-31T01:51:22 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-05-31T01:53:03 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775de6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-31T02:08:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T02:11:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T02:16:06 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-31T02:22:16 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-31T02:45:02 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qavybbgihtxxbrlc] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T02:54:58 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T03:05:48 < upgrdman> link plz 2016-05-31T03:09:19 -!- bradfirj [~bradfirj@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::c9:c001] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-31T03:09:21 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-05-31T03:09:21 -!- bradfirj [~bradfirj@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::c9:c001] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T03:09:37 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-31T03:09:57 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T03:10:50 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T03:20:49 < upgrdman> hmm. when i compile, i get an error "error: 'M_PI_2' undeclared" but i have math.h included, and M_PI_2 is #defined in math.h 2016-05-31T03:22:43 < upgrdman> wut 2016-05-31T03:23:15 < upgrdman> i dunno, why 2016-05-31T03:25:59 < upgrdman> well how the fuck do i get them then 2016-05-31T03:26:06 < upgrdman> other than copy/pasting the constant 2016-05-31T03:34:53 < upgrdman> im already using c99 2016-05-31T03:36:08 < upgrdman> fuck it. i just copy/pasted 3.14159... etc 2016-05-31T03:42:54 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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"a big dick in the ass is worth two in the mouth" 2016-05-31T06:37:23 < upgrdman> oh 2016-05-31T06:38:31 < upgrdman> this?https://www.jerkcity.com/ 2016-05-31T06:39:08 < upgrdman> wheres the ascii db 2016-05-31T06:39:14 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-31T06:39:18 < upgrdman> that pic comics are less funny than the shit on your shit 2016-05-31T06:53:04 < upgrdman> lolwut "UH JON I DON'T THINK LASAGNA 2016-05-31T06:53:04 < upgrdman> IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN RECTALLY " 2016-05-31T06:58:02 < upgrdman> dongs, you around? 2016-05-31T07:01:49 < upgrdman> how do i extract pitch angle from a quaternion? i assume the only way is to calc the euler angles? 2016-05-31T07:05:18 -!- benja [~zapb@x5d84f538.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T07:06:06 < upgrdman> well the euler angles have like lots of cross talk 2016-05-31T07:06:28 < upgrdman> e.g. when i yaw, two of the euler angles move a lot 2016-05-31T07:07:16 < benja> hi guys, trying to implement a SPI master on stm32f7. works fine when using software nCS but I want hardware nCS and tried the NSS_HARD option but it does not work. I've configured the pin as AF5_SPI. Any ideas? 2016-05-31T07:07:40 < dongs> dongs 2016-05-31T07:07:51 < dongs> upgrdman: i think so, i dunno shit about math 2016-05-31T07:08:24 < upgrdman> ohsix, ok i have a 9dof. im using madgwicks filter to do sensor fusion, and it gives me a quaternion. i want to determine my pitch (it's a balancing robot) ... and the euler angles have the cross talk i mentioned. what do i do? 2016-05-31T07:08:26 < upgrdman> dongs, k 2016-05-31T07:08:41 < dongs> upgrdman: better /privmsg ohsix for hot math chats, just watch out for off-topic autism 2016-05-31T07:09:39 < upgrdman> but i cant. e.g. if i yaw, my pitch angle gets FUCKED 2016-05-31T07:12:37 -!- daey_ [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T07:15:54 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-31T07:15:59 -!- daey_ is now known as daey 2016-05-31T07:19:48 < upgrdman> oh shit 2016-05-31T07:20:03 < upgrdman> just realized after mounting my shit to the robot, the magnetometer reading are fucked 2016-05-31T07:20:10 < upgrdman> must not like being mounted to the chassis 2016-05-31T07:20:18 < upgrdman> lets try imu instead of ahrs 2016-05-31T07:21:17 < Rob235> bno055 ftw 2016-05-31T07:21:19 < upgrdman> well one of the axes is rails at like 6 Gauss 2016-05-31T07:21:56 < upgrdman> Rob235, ya i was looking into one those bosch fuckers, but i was given this 10dof for free 2016-05-31T07:22:03 < upgrdman> no like $10 iirc on mouser 2016-05-31T07:22:07 < Rob235> well I only needed one so who cares how much it costs 2016-05-31T07:22:51 < Rob235> i started with a 10 dof mpu9255 but was having trouble with magnetometer and got the bno055, has the same mag issue but I'm not going back to the mpu for no reason 2016-05-31T07:28:14 < dongs> mi4c feels nice 2016-05-31T07:28:55 < Shavik> https://gyazo.com/2da091e4e20b1213ed9907af2ca1b60c How does on interpret the dimensions which are 3 groups of numbers all sepearated by horizontal lines? 2016-05-31T07:29:30 < dongs> min/normal/max 2016-05-31T07:29:45 < Shavik> ah, ok makes sense. Just hadn't seen that format 2016-05-31T07:29:51 < Shavik> Thanks. 2016-05-31T07:30:36 < dongs> looks like a nice part 2016-05-31T07:30:40 < Shavik> This is the only BGA I'm using on my whole board. Hoping a 2x4 BGA doesn't drive assembly cost too high. Thinking as soon as they hear BGA they will frown :/ 2016-05-31T07:30:41 < dongs> are you gonna handsolder that 2016-05-31T07:30:45 < Shavik> yea I'm not s ure 2016-05-31T07:31:02 < dongs> oh its that PDM shit 2016-05-31T07:31:04 < Shavik> It's only available in this package. No one else seems to make anything else like it. At least I can't seem to find it 2016-05-31T07:31:14 < Shavik> Yea I was going to do PDM in my STM32F4 but I was thinkin 2016-05-31T07:31:19 < Shavik> $1.80.. hmm 2016-05-31T07:31:21 < Shavik> lol 2016-05-31T07:31:26 < dongs> yeah but why did you give up just doing it directly? 2016-05-31T07:31:31 < dongs> ST has a PDM reading library 2016-05-31T07:31:32 < dongs> that you can link to 2016-05-31T07:31:37 < dongs> why bother with i2s 2016-05-31T07:31:52 < Shavik> Well I figured I was already going to use i2s for my PDM clock signal? 2016-05-31T07:31:54 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/ca/18/be/bb/f8/53/47/a5/DM00040808.pdf/files/DM00040808.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00040808.pdf 2016-05-31T07:32:07 < Shavik> Yea I was looking at that note 2016-05-31T07:32:45 < Shavik> Was curious as to whether the discovery they talk about was the >100Mhz version 2016-05-31T07:32:49 < dongs> time to load dicknplace 2016-05-31T07:32:52 < dongs> its the F4-disco 2016-05-31T07:32:55 < dongs> with 168mhz F405 2016-05-31T07:33:00 < dongs> or 407 or wahtever is on ti 2016-05-31T07:33:07 < Shavik> I'm running the 84. Didn't know if the 84mhz could handle 2 mics or not 2016-05-31T07:33:24 < dongs> mkaty 2016-05-31T07:33:25 < dongs> mkay 2016-05-31T07:33:28 < dongs> well, that'll certainly work 2016-05-31T07:34:01 < Shavik> 16kHz 16bit PCM is the end goal. This is voice only 2016-05-31T07:34:20 < Shavik> I'm looking to order my board tomorrow so just trying to finalize everything. Plan to dive deep into FW while I wait for it to come in 2016-05-31T07:34:21 < dongs> if I were you before dropping $ on invisible 0.4mm pitch parts, just code it and see 2016-05-31T07:34:28 < dongs> run the pdm demo on discovery 2016-05-31T07:34:36 < dongs> take a look at clock cycles needed to take say a buffer of 512 samples 2016-05-31T07:34:39 < dongs> and convert them 2016-05-31T07:34:44 < Shavik> I have a Nucleo F401RE, not a discovery 2016-05-31T07:34:50 < dongs> well it doenst matter 2016-05-31T07:34:56 < dongs> my point is, test it on something you can test with 2016-05-31T07:35:00 < dongs> using the software/st lib 2016-05-31T07:35:04 < dongs> and see how much cpu is acutally used 2016-05-31T07:35:13 < dongs> before dismissing it as "84mhz cant do it" 2016-05-31T07:38:30 < Shavik> The one other thing I hadn't been able to find in the docs yet is whether I can read in stereo pdm with the i2s periph. 2016-05-31T07:38:50 < dongs> why wouldnt you? 2016-05-31T07:38:55 < dongs> thats why thre's lrck isnt there? 2016-05-31T07:39:07 < Shavik> PDM doesn't use LRCK 2016-05-31T07:39:16 < dongs> i mean on the i2s side. 2016-05-31T07:39:21 < Shavik> PDM has L on high or low CLK pulse and R is on the other 2016-05-31T07:39:40 < Shavik> If I was using an I2C mic, none of this would be a problem. which I considered that too 2016-05-31T07:39:43 < Shavik> I2S 2016-05-31T07:39:57 < dongs> well, worst case you just read it in as data and post process teh buffer into l/r samples manually. 2016-05-31T07:40:18 < dongs> or you could stop assburgering and try ST PDM code first :) 2016-05-31T07:40:42 < Shavik> Currently using this PDM mic: http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Knowles%20Acoustics%20PDFs/SPH1668LM4H-1_Rev_A.pdf 2016-05-31T07:40:53 < Shavik> Thought about using this I2S mic: https://store.invensense.com/datasheets/invensense/INMP441.pdf 2016-05-31T07:41:14 < Shavik> dongs, I'm working on that part. I'm trying to google something about it before I ask another dumbass question 2016-05-31T07:41:24 < dongs> ;d 2016-05-31T07:41:38 < Shavik> This one is. It is more of a I can't find a file 2016-05-31T07:42:32 < Rob235> whats up guys 2016-05-31T07:43:17 < Shavik> Yea so one is tristated while the other transmits, one high clk, other on low clk 2016-05-31T07:44:12 < Shavik> I feel this is user error or something about my IDE/toolchain but I can't seem to find the pdm_filter header. I'm probably a moron and it isn't included by default or something 2016-05-31T07:44:31 < Shavik> Yea hence my confusion 2016-05-31T07:44:47 < Shavik> Ok I was looking everywhere. that explains it 2016-05-31T07:46:03 < Shavik> Google only gives me the PDF. no page on ST site for AN3998? 2016-05-31T07:47:42 < Shavik> Don't guess I do 2016-05-31T07:47:45 < Rob235> what is a nucleo? you use the arduino ide or it's just compatible with like arduino shields and stuff? 2016-05-31T07:47:52 < Shavik> I dont use any of the arduino stuff 2016-05-31T07:47:56 < Shavik> nor mbed 2016-05-31T07:48:01 < Shavik> I use VisualGDB in VS2015 2016-05-31T07:48:25 < Shavik> I'll go look around there. Thanks 2016-05-31T07:51:13 < Shavik> Ah that firmware package cube wants me to download 2016-05-31T07:51:17 < Shavik> That I never had needed to do 2016-05-31T07:51:18 < Shavik> lol 2016-05-31T07:51:32 < Shavik> It has generated everything fine so far, well I guess up to now 2016-05-31T07:53:52 < Shavik> From an Analog Devices white paper on PDM Mics with Blackfin DSP procs, "To make the SPORT receive data 2016-05-31T07:53:52 < Shavik> from both microphones, the microphones have to be clocked at half the rate of the clock at which the 2016-05-31T07:53:52 < Shavik> SPORT Rx is running." 2016-05-31T07:59:24 < Shavik> C:\Users\Shavik\STM32Cube\Repository\STM32Cube_FW_F4_V1.11.0\Middlewares\ST\STM32_Audio\Addons\PDM - Long enough path 2016-05-31T08:02:35 < Shavik> From the change log on 31-03-2015, PDM_Filter_64_MSB() function: fix issue when using more than 2 microphones 2016-05-31T08:03:27 < Shavik> So they have 2 mics in mind. I'm working on the best way to include this pdm_filter. Whether I should just copy it over and be dirty about it or have my project include that long path 2016-05-31T08:04:14 < Shavik> or rather link to it 2016-05-31T08:05:26 < Shavik> Well that was easy 2016-05-31T08:10:31 < Shavik> so ohsix, and dongs. I've now seen two different forum posts of people asking for help with 2 PDM microphones in SW and no one replied to either and the both edited an said, welp I switched to HW PDM->I2S 2016-05-31T08:10:33 < Shavik> Not reassuring 2016-05-31T08:23:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-31T08:24:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-c2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T08:42:36 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T08:44:11 < Rob235> ... 2016-05-31T08:44:40 < Rob235> ritz are delicious 2016-05-31T08:53:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-c2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-31T08:58:31 < dongs> Shavik: copy it over and link to their lib 2016-05-31T08:58:34 < dongs> i think its closed sores anyawy right 2016-05-31T09:04:48 < Shavik> dongs: better than open sores 2016-05-31T09:16:04 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775de6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T09:24:05 -!- benja [~zapb@x5d84f538.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T09:26:49 < dongs> naturally, because it actually works 2016-05-31T09:27:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T09:28:02 -!- benja [~zapb@x5d84f538.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T09:38:09 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T09:43:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.191] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T09:54:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-05-31T10:13:56 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-31T10:21:41 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-05-31T10:25:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T10:29:53 < qyx> finding a rpi-style adc breakout board for a load cell 2016-05-31T10:32:13 < qyx> with a rpi header to directly connect it to odroid 2016-05-31T10:32:40 < qyx> https://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/17/Raspberry-Pi--Raspberry-Pi-2-Model-B/65/ADC-Differential-Pi-Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter 2016-05-31T10:32:53 < qyx> found this so far 2016-05-31T10:37:40 < ReadError> heh just use the hx711 2016-05-31T10:37:47 < ReadError> its cheap and works nice 2016-05-31T10:38:42 < qyx> whats that interface 2016-05-31T10:40:26 < qyx> looks like it is some weird serial nterface 2016-05-31T10:40:47 < qyx> if dout goes low, you start applying pulses on clk and it shifts data out 2016-05-31T10:41:03 < qyx> and depending on the pulse count (25, 26 or 27) you select the input and gain 2016-05-31T10:42:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-31T10:42:46 < ReadError> qyx i just wrote some bitbang code 2016-05-31T10:43:17 < ReadError> works excellent, even have it running on its own thread since one of the lines drops when it has new data 2016-05-31T10:43:43 < ReadError> you can move a jumper 2016-05-31T10:43:51 < ReadError> and its like.....a bunch quicker 2016-05-31T10:44:05 < ReadError> think im polling at 90hz? 2016-05-31T10:44:40 < ReadError> 80SPS yea 2016-05-31T10:44:50 < ReadError> been a minute since i had to work on that code 2016-05-31T10:45:02 < ReadError> but 80SPS is pretty decent 2016-05-31T10:52:38 < ReadMobl> If you go by when data is available on the uC it's a bit faster than 80 2016-05-31T11:01:46 < emeryth> I'm pretty sure more people speak Klingon than Esperanto 2016-05-31T11:02:30 < dongs> lol. fucking ws2812b 2016-05-31T11:02:35 < dongs> GUESS WHICH PIN IS PIN1???? 2016-05-31T11:02:59 < dongs> hint: not the one wiht fucking notch in it 2016-05-31T11:03:57 < dongs> log out 2016-05-31T11:04:00 < dongs> done 2016-05-31T11:04:28 < dongs> thats good 2016-05-31T11:05:02 < dongs> this shithead keeps linking me facebook videos 2016-05-31T11:05:12 < dongs> i'd ignore if he wasnt paying me once and a while 2016-05-31T11:05:50 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww9EE2eKyg0 this was the lats shit he linked and he was like you HAVE to see this. so i was like, well look that shit up on jewtube FIRST then I'll think about clicking it 2016-05-31T11:10:03 -!- amstan_ [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-31T11:11:59 -!- amstan [~amstan@104-222-125-21.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T11:11:59 -!- amstan [~amstan@104-222-125-21.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-05-31T11:11:59 -!- amstan [~amstan@aichallenge/admin/amstan] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T11:12:55 < qyx> [2000-01-01T00:17:27Z] CRITICAL: core: processor hard fault at 0x0801cbd6 2016-05-31T11:13:01 < qyx> thanks freertos software timers 2016-05-31T11:13:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:a0ef:425f:98e0:a9b9] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-05-31T11:19:16 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.26.169.235] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T11:20:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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2016-05-31T13:43:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.97] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T13:44:14 < qyx> it is full of junk projects 2016-05-31T13:44:34 < dongs> Website Design, Web Scraping, Software Architecture, Photoshop Design, Circuit Design 2016-05-31T13:44:44 < dongs> which one of thse is the project NOT about?! :D 2016-05-31T13:45:27 < dongs> qyx: https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Need-electronic-effect-built/ this one is ez 2016-05-31T13:45:51 < dongs> i snagged taht midi controller proj 2016-05-31T13:45:58 < dongs> much fun 2016-05-31T13:46:14 < qyx> lol 2016-05-31T13:55:24 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/kCha9 2016-05-31T13:55:39 < dongs> fairly impressive for the price + liek 3 days turnaround 2016-05-31T13:56:04 < karlp> are those lit buttons? 2016-05-31T13:56:12 < dongs> yes 2016-05-31T13:56:31 < karlp> they don't have any mounting? 2016-05-31T13:56:39 < karlp> or just attached by the lights soldered down? 2016-05-31T13:57:22 < dongs> https://www.proto-pic.co.uk/user/products/large/ButtonPad-01-L__24687__71900[3].jpg its this sorta shit 2016-05-31T13:57:40 < dongs> like silicone membrane shit that has conductive rubber ring 2016-05-31T13:57:50 < dongs> that one is 12mm ring tho, these are for 16mm 2016-05-31T13:57:57 < dongs> but similar look 2016-05-31T13:58:14 < karlp> ah, big mounting 2016-05-31T14:01:27 < emeryth> dongs: where did you order that PCB? 2016-05-31T14:01:45 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-214-243.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T14:03:47 < dongs> emeryth: i donno actually i just sent gerber to chinagirl and she handled it 2016-05-31T14:03:54 < dongs> but i guess its some local place in shitzen 2016-05-31T14:08:13 < dongs> http://bbs2.ruliweb.daum.net/gaia/do/ruliweb/default/hobby/315/read?articleId=30226589&bbsId=G005&itemId=113&t__nil_ruliweb=best&nil_id=4 2016-05-31T14:13:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-140.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T14:16:37 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T14:18:16 < Sync> yeah looks like generic chinatrash dongs 2016-05-31T14:19:15 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-31T14:19:46 < dongs> yah 2016-05-31T14:20:18 < dongs> i dont order chinatrash 2016-05-31T14:20:22 < dongs> so im excited each time I make a new order 2016-05-31T14:21:19 < dongs> hm, turn around was really quick tho 2016-05-31T14:21:22 < dongs> i got camdata for this on 26th 2016-05-31T14:21:28 < dongs> chinagirl had it on 28th 2016-05-31T14:21:40 < dongs> i was quotd 5 days but k wahtever 2016-05-31T14:21:43 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T14:23:19 < Sync> I wonder what silk the yappulanders use 2016-05-31T14:23:27 < Sync> all the automotive shit looks a certain way 2016-05-31T14:23:58 < dongs> litho or something 2016-05-31T14:24:00 < dongs> instead of inject 2016-05-31T14:24:04 < dongs> er inkjet 2016-05-31T14:24:18 < dongs> chinasilk on this thing is that awful thick stuff 2016-05-31T14:24:22 < dongs> that looks like tried jizzlets 2016-05-31T14:24:25 < dongs> er dried 2016-05-31T14:26:02 < Sync> yeah but also stopmask is lighter than one most other pcbs 2016-05-31T14:26:18 < dongs> on automotive? 2016-05-31T14:26:23 < dongs> my mask is pretty thin for default green 2016-05-31T14:26:29 < dongs> infact so thin shit like vias almsot looks uncovered 2016-05-31T14:26:33 < Sync> http://www.dsmtuners.com/attachments/rsz_img_4230-jpg.227521/ 2016-05-31T14:26:45 < dongs> o that 2016-05-31T14:26:56 < Sync> http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/bodyecu/becu-04.jpg 2016-05-31T14:27:26 < Sync> http://www.vm256.ru/sites/default/files/images/articles/prius_immo4.jpg 2016-05-31T14:28:17 < dongs> that last one looks same geren mask as mine 2016-05-31T14:28:19 < dongs> i like the 2nd one 2016-05-31T14:28:22 < dongs> kinda blueish green 2016-05-31T14:28:30 < Sync> yeah 2016-05-31T14:28:33 < dongs> mine = local mine not chinatrash 2016-05-31T14:28:48 < dongs> thats a nice silk on teh last one too 2016-05-31T14:29:09 < Sync> really strange, not used to that, I just see a lot of yurotrash pcbs 2016-05-31T14:29:43 < Sync> yeah denso has super nice silk and stopmask 2016-05-31T14:30:05 < Sync> but denso has their own pcb shop 2016-05-31T14:30:06 < Sync> so eh 2016-05-31T14:36:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T14:37:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T14:39:11 -!- Tekkkz_ [~thinkpad@p4FCA4D5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T14:39:43 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FD24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-31T14:41:36 -!- Tekkkz_ [~thinkpad@p4FCA4D5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-31T14:41:57 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FCA4D5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T14:43:49 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FCA4D5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-05-31T14:52:08 < ReadError> Sync the place I use will do it that way unless I tell him xtra mask on vias 2016-05-31T14:52:17 < ReadError> not *that* bad 2016-05-31T14:52:21 < ReadError> but very thin 2016-05-31T14:53:08 < Sync> yeah your place looks similar 2016-05-31T14:57:05 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/NHOBj9I.png 2016-05-31T14:57:15 < ReadError> love how they put silk where you have it 2016-05-31T14:57:36 < ReadError> none of this oshpark "oh, this silk is within 4mil of a pad of via, lets just delete it" 2016-05-31T15:02:27 < zyp> yeah, fuck that 2016-05-31T15:03:43 < ReadError> dont think they even document wtf they do on that 2016-05-31T15:08:51 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T15:38:51 < PeterM> i love silk over vias - i hate it when they remove silk over tented vias 2016-05-31T15:42:14 < ReadError> why they gotta be dicks and remove stuff though 2016-05-31T15:43:35 < Steffanx> The love dongs. 2016-05-31T15:47:24 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T16:07:03 -!- piper [~user@46.234.216.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-31T16:09:22 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@2001:470:28:537:417c:ff32:346f:1e42] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T16:10:33 < mitrax> i don't have an external VREF, i want to account for possible variations of the supply voltage, is sampling the internal vref along with the other channels and compare it against the calibration value stored in rom and apply a correction factor (computed from the extrapolated VDD) the proper way to do it? that's what i'm doing at the moment and it seems to work ok 2016-05-31T16:10:35 < dongs> Sync: http://imgur.com/00d4Gt8?r 2016-05-31T16:11:24 < k\o\w> I have a crush on dongs 2016-05-31T16:12:19 < Sync> dongs: yup 2016-05-31T16:12:39 < dongs> what was it doing? getting filled up? 2016-05-31T16:13:01 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T16:13:04 < Sync> yes 2016-05-31T16:13:37 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7qRC8AYK8 lmao 2016-05-31T16:14:32 < Sync> kek 2016-05-31T16:27:21 < k\o\w> that's p. cool 2016-05-31T16:27:43 < k\o\w> RuBee works well in harsh environments because most steel items resonate well at the RuBee frequency of 131 kHz. As the frequency goes up over 1 MHz fewer steel items resonate. At a frequency of 10 MHz for example, nothing large made of steel can be tuned to resonance. 2016-05-31T16:33:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T16:35:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T16:41:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T16:42:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T16:43:13 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T16:44:15 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-05-31T16:53:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T17:05:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-140.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-05-31T17:10:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T17:14:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@80.252.213.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-31T17:22:41 < bartekww> omg 2016-05-31T17:22:51 < bartekww> i bought stm32 on aliexpress 2016-05-31T17:24:42 < dongs> and? 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the ref manual is not specific about the effect of this read on SR1 2016-05-31T18:24:07 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T18:24:23 < brabo> ah ignore me, in the SR1 register details it does state it clearly, reading SR1 and then writing to DR clears it 2016-05-31T18:39:06 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-31T18:39:10 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T18:42:45 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T18:48:31 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-05-31T18:50:25 -!- stukdev [~quassel@host179-9-static.10-188-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-31T18:59:03 -!- jon1012 [~jon@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-31T19:01:33 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-31T19:08:00 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:09:33 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aYE10vR8bc haha 2016-05-31T19:12:37 -!- rcc [~razvan@188.26.169.235] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-05-31T19:14:16 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:16:26 < bartekww> how can i send data by spi 2016-05-31T19:16:33 < bartekww> i need to use spi bitbanging 2016-05-31T19:16:34 < bartekww> not native spi 2016-05-31T19:17:52 < dongs> while (1) { gpio_low(); delay(); gpio_high(); delay(); } 2016-05-31T19:18:14 < bartekww> but what with CPU? 2016-05-31T19:18:24 < bartekww> 100% usage? 2016-05-31T19:18:35 < dongs> nope 2016-05-31T19:18:52 < bartekww> i want to program spi flash 2016-05-31T19:18:56 < bartekww> by bitbanging spi 2016-05-31T19:18:57 < bartekww> so 2016-05-31T19:18:59 < bartekww> you know 2016-05-31T19:19:03 < bartekww> 16Mbytes 2016-05-31T19:19:08 < dongs> why cant you just.. use spi 2016-05-31T19:19:10 < bartekww> 128Mbit of data 2016-05-31T19:19:20 < bartekww> because i'm making my own programmer 2016-05-31T19:19:32 < ReadError> lol 2016-05-31T19:19:36 < bartekww> and you know different chips have different packages and pinouts 2016-05-31T19:19:48 < dongs> put a cpld on there 2016-05-31T19:20:17 < bartekww> i want STM32 2016-05-31T19:20:26 < bartekww> TL866 programmer is on pic 2016-05-31T19:20:30 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-31T19:20:32 < bartekww> and it uses bitbanging probably 2016-05-31T19:20:48 < ReadError> ill take some of whatever bartekww is smoking 2016-05-31T19:21:57 < dongs> its the new beaky 2016-05-31T19:22:11 < bartekww> ReadError: air :)? 2016-05-31T19:22:57 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:24:18 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-05-31T19:25:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:27:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.248.151] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:27:36 < jadew> my PC power supply, as seen in my measurements of other sutff that aren't even turned on: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/4eNbs.png 2016-05-31T19:28:23 < jadew> the big spike is at about 100 kHz 2016-05-31T19:28:45 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:30:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-edb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:33:05 < bartekww> jadew: rigol? 2016-05-31T19:33:12 < bartekww> i have got old russian scope :D 2016-05-31T19:33:12 < jadew> bartekww, yeah 2016-05-31T19:33:17 < bartekww> c1-99 2016-05-31T19:33:25 < bartekww> got it for free 2016-05-31T19:33:28 < bartekww> 2x 100MHz 2016-05-31T19:33:32 < bartekww> :P 2016-05-31T19:33:59 < jadew> that's not bad, must have been expensive when new 2016-05-31T19:35:34 < bartekww> it's so heavy :D 2016-05-31T19:35:37 < bartekww> 30kg? 2016-05-31T19:35:38 < jadew> most old scopes I've heard of that are from europe-russia are like 2 or maybe 10 MHz at most 2016-05-31T19:36:18 < bartekww> jadew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMTNVr7Mt7w 2016-05-31T19:36:48 < jadew> looks awesome 2016-05-31T19:37:19 < bartekww> :P 2016-05-31T19:37:26 < bartekww> switches needs cleaning 2016-05-31T19:37:52 < bartekww> i need now 2 hands to turn timebase switch :D 2016-05-31T19:39:54 < jadew> analog scopes are pretty cool, but you should still have a DSO around 2016-05-31T19:41:03 < BrainDamage> analog scopes have one thing that most dso ( until you go to the high end ) have, it's the persistance fade from phosphor 2016-05-31T19:41:11 < bartekww> it's too expensive 2016-05-31T19:41:12 < BrainDamage> that give some visual form of long term averaging 2016-05-31T19:41:18 < bartekww> i use scope 2 times per year 2016-05-31T19:41:28 < BrainDamage> it's useful for noisy repetitive signals 2016-05-31T19:41:47 < jadew> BrainDamage, it looks like most new scopes tend to have that 2016-05-31T19:42:02 < bartekww> logic analyzer would be more useful for me 2016-05-31T19:42:08 < bartekww> but i haven't got one 2016-05-31T19:42:08 < jadew> I guess Rigol set a new standard when they introduced that on their low end scopes 2016-05-31T19:42:31 < BrainDamage> rigol is cool that forces other competitors to raise the low end of the bar 2016-05-31T19:42:39 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-31T19:53:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T19:54:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-31T19:55:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T20:02:22 < willmore> Anyone have a schematic of the 'blue pill' board? C1 on one of mine broke off. It looks like it's just bypassing the 3.3V pin to ground--so I can replace it with pretty much any 0.1uF cap or so. 2016-05-31T20:05:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.42.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T20:10:48 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T20:27:14 < ReadError> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=18f_1464667011 2016-05-31T20:27:15 < ReadError> uhhh 2016-05-31T20:29:44 < jadew> wth happened there? 2016-05-31T20:36:30 < ReadError> good question 2016-05-31T20:38:19 < jadew> my guess is poor wiring and unearthed 2016-05-31T20:38:30 < jadew> with the PC's ground at live potential 2016-05-31T20:38:47 < jadew> when he plugged in his phone the case of the phone went live too 2016-05-31T20:43:41 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775de6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T20:45:07 < Steffanx> lol those guys. that guy in the center. Watch, aah is nothing, continue gaming. 2016-05-31T20:48:05 < jadew> maybe they thought he's having a seizure 2016-05-31T20:49:06 < Steffanx> Yeah, after but after the big bang.. 2016-05-31T20:50:13 < jadew> stupid kids I guess 2016-05-31T20:50:31 < Steffanx> but yeah we're all internet experts so we know how to react in real life. 2016-05-31T20:51:12 < jadew> well, we've been tought in school how to react 2016-05-31T20:51:23 < Steffanx> I'm not. 2016-05-31T20:51:42 < jadew> no, I'm talking about me and my collegues 2016-05-31T20:52:31 < jadew> it was something along the lines of "hit with something or at best kick without touching" 2016-05-31T20:52:43 < jadew> that guy who touched the wire could have died there too 2016-05-31T20:53:01 < Steffanx> yeah, but then you still have to know it's that and not just a seizure. 2016-05-31T20:53:02 < jadew> we were specifically thought not to touch the wire 2016-05-31T20:53:17 < jadew> yeah 2016-05-31T20:54:25 < jadew> for that you have to be a liveleak viewer 2016-05-31T20:55:24 < jadew> did you guys see the one with those guys that got electrocuted because they were moving some metal structure and they hit a 5000 V line? 2016-05-31T20:55:57 < Steffanx> dont remember seeing that 2016-05-31T20:56:07 < jadew> oh, it was 10 kV 2016-05-31T20:56:14 < jadew> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc3_1345975509 2016-05-31T20:56:22 < jadew> one of them survived 2016-05-31T21:01:22 < jadew> I heard there's even a trick when working on high voltage lines, the way you position your body so in case you get electrocuted, you get thrown away from the wires, because of how your muscles contract 2016-05-31T21:03:07 < jadew> all this talk about electrocution, I no longer feel like opening up my PC's PSU 2016-05-31T21:03:37 < Steffanx> Maybe it's not funny that video, but it does look funny :D 2016-05-31T21:04:09 < jadew> I didn't even watch it now 2016-05-31T21:04:33 < jadew> I found it horrific because of how unexpected that was 2016-05-31T21:04:45 < jadew> it's the kind of mistake that anyone can make 2016-05-31T21:05:13 < Steffanx> im not sure if this kind of mistake can be made by anyone.. 2016-05-31T21:06:56 < Steffanx> You can see those lines.. 2016-05-31T21:07:30 < jadew> I don't know, they were pushing something, normally when you push stuff you don't think about wires 2016-05-31T21:09:02 < Steffanx> It's not like that accident that happend somewhere near hear. Where some farmer hit the HV lines when he stopped this tractor and suddenly the arms of the machine he was using went up. 2016-05-31T21:09:30 < Steffanx> THAT is kinda unforeseeable ;) 2016-05-31T21:09:55 < jadew> damn 2016-05-31T21:10:16 < Steffanx> *here 2016-05-31T21:10:55 < Steffanx> sadly the 3 yo kid that was with him got seriously injured. 2016-05-31T21:11:02 < Steffanx> Enough sad stories for today 2016-05-31T21:11:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-05-31T21:12:06 < jadew> I need to find an install 5 mA RCDs in here 2016-05-31T21:12:23 < jadew> and 2016-05-31T21:17:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-31T21:18:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:a0ef:425f:98e0:a9b9] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T21:21:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T21:27:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.248.151] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-05-31T21:32:39 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-05-31T21:39:42 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-05-31T21:40:33 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T21:45:03 -!- Laurenceb_ [56b20e90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.178.14.144] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T21:56:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T21:57:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.37.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T22:01:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T22:06:15 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-05-31T22:10:13 -!- a_morale [~quassel@2-227-115-13.ip186.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T22:15:57 -!- brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-05-31T22:31:10 -!- brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T22:55:00 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhvaI07jmkA 2016-05-31T22:55:01 < Laurenceb_> goes 2016-05-31T23:04:42 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-05-31T23:06:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T23:09:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-05-31T23:10:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-31T23:11:31 < Steffanx> pick one https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/Laurenceb.txt 2016-05-31T23:12:08 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXn1g0xtUMk 2016-05-31T23:12:13 < ReadError> hoe lee fucking shit 2016-05-31T23:17:31 < upgrdman> is there a more efficient thing than memcpy? like one that copies 32bits at a time instead of bytes at a time? 2016-05-31T23:17:44 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-05-31T23:19:08 -!- Laurenceb_ [56b20e90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.178.14.144] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-05-31T23:19:27 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: memcpy should be already optimised that way. At least that's the case with glibc and other popular libcs. 2016-05-31T23:19:51 < upgrdman> hmm ok 2016-05-31T23:20:08 < upgrdman> fuck. i need something like 20% faster. i wonder if memory-to-memory dma would be faster 2016-05-31T23:21:02 < BrainDamage> depends how large is the amount you have to copy, remember you have to configure the dma 2016-05-31T23:21:32 < upgrdman> ya i know. i need to copy like 500 bytes 2016-05-31T23:21:48 < upgrdman> and i need it fast because im an spi slave that needs to respond in a timeframe 2016-05-31T23:22:43 < BrainDamage> eyeballing it, it might be worth a shot 2016-05-31T23:24:36 -!- Tekkkz [~thinkpad@p4FCA4D5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T23:28:46 < kakimir> where is our Russian when I need him to translate http://47news.ru/articles/103973/ 2016-05-31T23:29:27 < kakimir> hey.. fire and smoke from nuclear plant - better breathe that in 2016-05-31T23:32:17 < PaulFertser> kakimir: they say the rooftop of a scientific center is burning. And that this center is famous for their odd tenders where they were buying expensive tobacco and icecream and odd security devices. 2016-05-31T23:32:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-edb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-05-31T23:33:00 < kakimir> but it looks like nuclerian plante 2016-05-31T23:33:25 < PaulFertser> kakimir: it's not a nuclear plant. It's a nuclear-related research facility, not a power plant. 2016-05-31T23:33:41 < kakimir> oh.. nuclear weapon plant 2016-05-31T23:34:02 < kakimir> it has cooling tower 2016-05-31T23:34:11 < kakimir> no.. actually 2016-05-31T23:34:16 < kakimir> ventilation tower 2016-05-31T23:34:53 < upgrdman> lol. didn't know that DP offers an IC decapping service. http://dangerousprototypes.com/store/decap 2016-05-31T23:34:55 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKWjBkRGItdldNQ0U/view?usp=sharing when you do not remove EGR 2016-05-31T23:36:57 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-05-31T23:37:09 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-05-31T23:45:17 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKRG1sRXg5Q2hFY1k/view?usp=sharing my mess 2016-05-31T23:46:41 < aandrew> dude 2016-05-31T23:46:44 < aandrew> someone's stripping your car 2016-05-31T23:47:08 < Sync> nice oilspill 2016-05-31T23:48:16 < kakimir> coolant suprise 2016-05-31T23:49:09 < kakimir> who would have known that coolant pump may have coolant in it 2016-05-31T23:51:16 < aandrew> get your dog to lap it up 2016-05-31T23:52:11 < kakimir> my dog died 2016-05-31T23:52:26 < kakimir> too much laping up things 2016-05-31T23:56:15 < kakimir> cars are mess 2016-05-31T23:57:00 < kakimir> too much parts 2016-05-31T23:57:14 < kakimir> too much plastic 2016-05-31T23:58:24 < Sync> nah --- Log closed Wed Jun 01 00:00:12 2016