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ZZZzzz…] 2016-07-01T00:28:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.139.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-01T00:45:40 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Emil, ohama, PeterM, blight, daey, Fleck, ds2 2016-07-01T00:49:17 -!- merbzt [~benjamin@c-4e0be555.03-170-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T00:53:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T00:54:36 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T00:55:56 < dongs> now I know why readcloner was fucking around with hall encoders 2016-07-01T00:55:56 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m/description 2016-07-01T00:56:00 < dongs> nice kickstarter bro 2016-07-01T00:56:17 < Laurenceb__> new failproject 2016-07-01T00:56:19 < Laurenceb__> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/06/30/208253/netherlands-gets-first-nationwide-internet-of-things 2016-07-01T00:56:26 < Laurenceb__> LoRa 2016-07-01T00:57:01 < dongs> guh fucking eagle trash 2016-07-01T00:57:04 < BrainDamage> i guess the future is leveraging the synergy of freecancer to reduce the time to market of crowfunded projects 2016-07-01T00:57:36 < Laurenceb__> I bet they enjoy their nonexistent interference tolerance 2016-07-01T00:58:36 < Laurenceb__> I'm confused by that kickfail gif 2016-07-01T00:58:50 < Laurenceb__> it looks like a stepper but it seems to have position hold 2016-07-01T01:00:20 < Laurenceb__> best thing about Japland, no snackbar 2016-07-01T01:00:37 < Laurenceb__> oh it has encoder http://tropical-labs.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Board_diagram.png 2016-07-01T01:00:39 < Laurenceb__> v nice 2016-07-01T01:02:01 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T01:02:21 < englishman> angleTemp = (((b1 << 8) | b2) & 0B1111111111111111); 2016-07-01T01:02:22 < englishman> lol 2016-07-01T01:02:27 < Laurenceb__> haxorated stepper 2016-07-01T01:02:34 < Laurenceb__> that still seems a little silly 2016-07-01T01:04:35 < Sync> it is fully cancerous Laurenceb__ 2016-07-01T01:05:18 < Laurenceb__> wtf @ AD5047D datasheet, 2048 steps per resolution, 14 bit 2016-07-01T01:17:25 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKNJ0xLKdVM 2016-07-01T01:17:30 < Laurenceb__> arduino ide... whyyyy 2016-07-01T01:17:34 < Laurenceb__> why not just eeprom 2016-07-01T01:20:21 < Laurenceb__> impressive otherwise, readerror project? 2016-07-01T01:25:59 -!- __rob [~rob@host86-165-132-167.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T01:30:47 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/jcchurch13/Mechaduino-Firmware/blob/master/Mechaduino_01/Mechaduino_01/Mechaduino_01.ino 2016-07-01T01:30:51 < Laurenceb__> lul all that delay 2016-07-01T01:32:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T01:33:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T01:34:44 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-07-01T01:41:58 < dongs> lol @ lookup table copied into firmware 2016-07-01T01:44:48 < dongs> why does it even need to print anything 2016-07-01T01:45:04 < dongs> you do this calibration, save the shit in ram and then into flash/eeprom 2016-07-01T01:45:06 < dongs> all automatically 2016-07-01T01:45:10 < dongs> i guess not MAKE:R enough 2016-07-01T01:47:04 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T01:47:36 < dongs> floatangle = (10000 * ( theta * 0.87266 + 2.3562) lol @ not using flaot constants 2016-07-01T01:47:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T01:47:48 < dongs> the compiled code is probly full of double/float conversions evrywehre 2016-07-01T01:48:21 < Laurenceb__> wait wtf 2016-07-01T01:48:29 < Laurenceb__> I was wondering where all the codes were 2016-07-01T01:48:34 < Laurenceb__> it runs on a pc lul 2016-07-01T01:48:44 < dongs> no it doesnt? 2016-07-01T01:48:46 < Laurenceb__> matlab codez that he hasn't published 2016-07-01T01:49:03 < dongs> wtf do you need manlab for 2016-07-01T01:49:03 < Laurenceb__> for all implementing the "features" 2016-07-01T01:49:14 < Laurenceb__> anti cogging, autotuning etc 2016-07-01T01:49:18 < dongs> you just tell it where to step, no? 2016-07-01T01:49:28 < Laurenceb__> doesnt look like it from the codez 2016-07-01T01:49:48 < Laurenceb__> no way you could fit all the features into 1.3k lines 2016-07-01T01:49:59 < Laurenceb__> random mess 2016-07-01T01:50:08 < Laurenceb__> what a disaster zone 2016-07-01T01:50:15 < Laurenceb__> hardware looks half ok 2016-07-01T01:50:18 < Laurenceb__> very 2016-07-01T01:50:30 < Laurenceb__> several PhDs complex 2016-07-01T01:50:39 < Laurenceb__> not with auto cogging, autotuning etc 2016-07-01T01:50:46 < Laurenceb__> all the features he _claims_ 2016-07-01T01:50:52 < Laurenceb__> no it isnt 2016-07-01T01:51:51 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should do this properly 2016-07-01T01:52:02 < Laurenceb__> but then it'd take several years lol 2016-07-01T01:53:01 < Laurenceb__> all the features built in 2016-07-01T01:53:10 < Laurenceb__> autocalibration, tuning and stuff 2016-07-01T01:53:35 < Laurenceb__> stored to onboard eeprom 2016-07-01T01:54:14 < Laurenceb__> yeah check line 1320 2016-07-01T01:54:20 < Laurenceb__> it dumps junk to matlab 2016-07-01T01:54:53 < dongs> hi! 2016-07-01T01:54:57 < dongs> autism chats in progress?? 2016-07-01T01:54:57 < Laurenceb__> calibrate encoder, cogging, perhaps a separate torque cal thing 2016-07-01T01:55:08 < Laurenceb__> asperger king 2016-07-01T01:55:22 < dongs> maybe ohsix can make a better opensource servo 2016-07-01T01:55:34 < dongs> .. in his dreams after watching season 100 of LOST 2016-07-01T01:55:39 < Laurenceb__> cogging is defined as position error 2016-07-01T01:55:47 < Laurenceb__> lol LOST 2016-07-01T01:55:53 < dongs> Laurenceb__: also not sure if enough hardware to do stall detection 2016-07-01T01:56:01 < Laurenceb__> season 9000 2016-07-01T01:56:02 < dongs> well i guess with encoder he can 2016-07-01T01:56:09 < Laurenceb__> dongs: yeah 2016-07-01T01:56:15 < dongs> forgot that was tehre 2016-07-01T01:56:21 < dongs> there's osme way to measure backemf in openloop shit 2016-07-01T01:56:24 < dongs> to detet if youre stalling 2016-07-01T01:56:25 < Laurenceb__> this could have been useful for my PhD 2016-07-01T01:56:29 < Laurenceb__> oh well 2016-07-01T01:56:42 < dongs> you can always try it again 2016-07-01T01:56:45 < Laurenceb__> I made crazy "design by iteration" design 2016-07-01T01:56:46 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-01T01:57:05 < dongs> gah 2016-07-01T01:57:16 < dongs> we won't release firmware to custoemrs, so we have to build it for you every time 2016-07-01T01:57:30 < dongs> ok, change bytes 0x14 and 0x18 to stuff 2016-07-01T01:57:33 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-01T01:57:37 < dongs> here's stuff 2016-07-01T01:57:41 < dongs> look at changed data 2016-07-01T01:57:45 < dongs> they fucking edited byte 18(ec) 2016-07-01T01:57:46 < dongs> dec 2016-07-01T01:57:49 < dongs> motherfuckers 2016-07-01T01:57:55 < dongs> shit doesnt evne work of course 2016-07-01T01:58:12 < dongs> i think im just gonna get enough fucking binary firmware diffs to see what they're changing 2016-07-01T01:58:15 < dongs> and start editing asm myself 2016-07-01T02:01:51 < Sync> Laurenceb__: he has no anticogging shits in there 2016-07-01T02:05:50 < dongs> ya wut 2016-07-01T02:05:52 < dongs> theres nothing there 2016-07-01T02:05:57 < Sync> he doesn't read anything back from his cal 2016-07-01T02:06:06 < Sync> so it is not habbening 2016-07-01T02:06:51 < dongs> now waiting x more hours for them to rebuild the shit 2016-07-01T02:06:53 < dongs> ffffffffffff 2016-07-01T02:07:02 < Sync> what are you innovating? 2016-07-01T02:07:46 < dongs> nothin too itneresting 2016-07-01T02:07:50 < dongs> o yeah that load arrived 2016-07-01T02:07:58 < dongs> haent even opened the box yet 2016-07-01T02:08:07 < dongs> fgt coming next week to pick it up 2016-07-01T02:10:56 < Sync> pfft 2016-07-01T02:11:07 < Sync> now the others are gone, gei 2016-07-01T02:11:17 < dongs> ya some shithead picked them all up 2016-07-01T02:11:23 < dongs> thought it was you 2016-07-01T02:11:34 < dongs> shit sat unused for months 2016-07-01T02:11:42 < dongs> then when i acutally needed one they're all gone 2016-07-01T02:12:32 < dongs> http://tropical-labs.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Board_diagram.png lol this hardware is pretty fail 2016-07-01T02:12:39 < dongs> nice thermals on high-current screw terminal 2016-07-01T02:12:51 < dongs> and then there's what looks like a huge GND island on top near the hbridge 2016-07-01T02:12:59 < dongs> not connected to anythign 2016-07-01T02:13:14 < dongs> someone's first eagle projectl 2016-07-01T02:13:52 < dongs> Board and schematic are not consistent! 2016-07-01T02:13:52 < dongs> No forward-/backannotation will be performed! 2016-07-01T02:13:52 < dongs> Use the ERC command to get a detailed error report. 2016-07-01T02:13:53 < dongs> lol 2016-07-01T02:14:01 < dongs> not even fucking synched sch/pcb before upoading 2016-07-01T02:14:06 < dongs> eagle aids 2016-07-01T02:14:27 < Sync> nah, I have not picked them up, the guy would not deal with intl shipping 2016-07-01T02:15:17 < dongs> ya holy shit he has a fucking ground pour there specifically around the hbridge but no vias to make it worth anything 2016-07-01T02:15:49 < Sync> yeah idk what the shit is going on with that board 2016-07-01T02:16:37 < Sync> and the super pro 2mm header there 2016-07-01T02:16:44 < dongs> SWD? 2016-07-01T02:16:46 < Sync> for maximum raeg 2016-07-01T02:16:47 < Sync> yeah 2016-07-01T02:17:02 < Sync> or is that that stupid plug thing 2016-07-01T02:17:11 < dongs> 'sif anyone develops on tarduino with SWD 2016-07-01T02:17:20 < dongs> if I knew how to measure shit in eagle I'd know if its 2mm or 1.27mm 2016-07-01T02:17:38 < dongs> CONNETTORI_PINHEAD-2X5-P127 2016-07-01T02:17:49 < dongs> compoents copied from EVERYWHERE 2016-07-01T02:18:00 < dongs> guaranteed to be quality 2016-07-01T02:18:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T02:18:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T02:19:24 < dongs> Okay, there was a mix-up between hex and dec memory locations. Please try this version. 2016-07-01T02:19:28 < dongs> ahahaha 2016-07-01T02:19:30 < dongs> come on guys 2016-07-01T02:21:41 < Sync> are you dealing with jappu jokevendors again? 2016-07-01T02:23:19 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-01T02:23:39 < Sync> fuk, lem lah25 sensors are suprisingly expensive 2016-07-01T02:27:05 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@130.180.219.40] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T02:27:14 < Yoduza> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/ee/12/52/3f/8c/7d/46/b3/CD00231399.pdf/files/CD00231399.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00231399.pdf 2016-07-01T02:27:17 < Yoduza> is it only 1MHz ? 2016-07-01T02:27:31 < Yoduza> STGW45HF60WD ultrafast ? 1MHz ? 2016-07-01T02:27:57 < Sync> calculate it 2016-07-01T02:28:04 < Sync> you get all the data 2016-07-01T02:33:02 < Yoduza> >80MHz ? 2016-07-01T02:33:22 < Sync> calculate it. 2016-07-01T02:33:33 < Yoduza> i dont know how :( 2016-07-01T02:34:53 < Sync> read the datasheet and systematically rule out what parameters are not relevant 2016-07-01T02:36:48 < Sync> and no, it will absolutely not support 80MHz 2016-07-01T02:40:56 < dongs> haha 2016-07-01T02:43:38 < kakimir_> Laurenceb__: brexit actually EU plot to destroy brittish pound? 2016-07-01T02:44:23 < kakimir_> that is actually plot by londonian bankers to destroy EU ? 2016-07-01T02:46:12 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-01T02:46:46 < dongs> yes 2016-07-01T02:47:47 < kakimir_> did it trip on you ohsix ? 2016-07-01T02:47:58 -!- kakimir_ is now known as kakimir 2016-07-01T02:47:58 < dongs> ohsix tripped over season 9000 of LOST 2016-07-01T02:48:18 < Yoduza> 30 MHz ? 2016-07-01T02:48:54 < dongs> yoduza you fucking shithead 2016-07-01T02:48:56 < dongs> look at the datsheet 2016-07-01T02:49:01 < dongs> where they have bunch of "ns" numbers 2016-07-01T02:49:04 < dongs> 1/that to get MHz 2016-07-01T02:49:20 < Yoduza> :o thank you 2016-07-01T02:49:32 < Yoduza> ns out + ns in ? 2016-07-01T02:49:42 < dongs> sum them all 2016-07-01T02:49:47 < Yoduza> hmm 2016-07-01T02:49:49 < kakimir> google knows it's shit 2016-07-01T02:50:29 < kakimir> they have near perfection algorithms 2016-07-01T02:50:51 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1229573443/das-keyboard-5q-the-cloud-connected-keyboard 2016-07-01T02:50:54 < dongs> just what you need 2016-07-01T02:50:59 < Laurenceb__> detect children?! 2016-07-01T02:51:01 < dongs> for hax0rs to change colors on your keyboard remotely 2016-07-01T02:51:01 < kakimir> ohsix: yes 2016-07-01T02:51:04 < Laurenceb__> take a seat over there 2016-07-01T02:51:19 < Laurenceb__> lul so mecharduino hardware is fail too 2016-07-01T02:52:34 < dongs> it looks pretty terrible ya 2016-07-01T02:52:44 < dongs> those all in one drivers are never fun 2016-07-01T02:53:29 < dongs> k 2016-07-01T02:53:36 < dongs> finally the shit they sent is according to my request 2016-07-01T02:53:37 < kakimir> ohsix: you can just imagine what else they read between the lines 2016-07-01T02:54:20 < kakimir> they rread your mind just from the way you type 2016-07-01T02:56:16 < kakimir> they do 2016-07-01T02:56:42 < kakimir> some 2016-07-01T02:57:11 < Laurenceb__> jimmysavile.com 2016-07-01T02:58:59 < Laurenceb__> no encyclopedia dramatica for you 2016-07-01T03:00:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8702:6600:ed70:f07a:b41f:f75f] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-01T03:03:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T03:06:46 < dongs> has jimmy savellive ever attended a tv program with "show" or "late" in the name, or have been associated with something that had "comedy" in the name/title? 2016-07-01T03:09:52 < Yoduza> 2SC3710 80 MHz in datasheet 2016-07-01T03:11:44 < Laurenceb__> dongs: dunno I didnt watch TV 2016-07-01T03:11:59 < Laurenceb__> I was banned from watching TV by my parents 2016-07-01T03:12:11 < Laurenceb__> this caused me to develop as a well rounded individual 2016-07-01T03:12:20 < dongs> excellent 2016-07-01T03:12:28 < dongs> look at ohsix to see what TV does to a typical american child 2016-07-01T03:14:06 < upgrdman> anyone know if the lcd + cap touch on the nice f4discos is sold separately? 2016-07-01T03:14:23 < upgrdman> on the schematic i see the connector, but no number for the lcd module 2016-07-01T03:17:12 < dongs> 429I? 2016-07-01T03:17:18 < dongs> or the bigger one 2016-07-01T03:18:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T03:18:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T03:19:11 < englishman> https://i.sli.mg/i63flf.jpg sweet 2016-07-01T03:19:58 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: why not have farage as PM? 2016-07-01T03:20:02 < upgrdman> oh oop, the f7disco. STM32F769NI disco 2016-07-01T03:20:09 < Laurenceb__> cuz he hasn't been elected 2016-07-01T03:20:15 < Laurenceb__> how do I democracy 2016-07-01T03:20:21 < upgrdman> the mipi dsi thing 2016-07-01T03:20:26 < kakimir> he is like very electric 2016-07-01T03:20:27 < dongs> upgrdman: thats a mipi-dsi panel, probly some custom job ST had done by phone makerz 2016-07-01T03:20:34 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-01T03:20:46 < dongs> china can do those order-made 2016-07-01T03:20:51 < upgrdman> shit 2016-07-01T03:20:56 < Laurenceb__> he is good for trolling EU parliament 2016-07-01T03:21:30 < upgrdman> dongs, any way for people to order like qty3 of them? or would it just be easier to buy 3 discos and pull them off 2016-07-01T03:21:39 < dongs> upgrdman: the latter, for sure 2016-07-01T03:21:51 < dongs> or if youre clever you sign up for 3 ST seminars 2016-07-01T03:21:55 < dongs> and get free F7-discos 2016-07-01T03:21:56 < upgrdman> not necessarily THAT lcd, but like equiv nice lcd 2016-07-01T03:21:56 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-01T03:22:04 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: we had popularistic party here 2016-07-01T03:22:11 < dongs> upgrdman: a china place is selling 4 lane 1080p mipi DSI 5.5" panels 2016-07-01T03:22:18 < kakimir> that was actually fake oposition 2016-07-01T03:22:19 < dongs> duno if F7 can driev 4 lane 2016-07-01T03:22:25 < dongs> they're about $50-ish 2016-07-01T03:22:55 < dongs> most phone panels use 4 lane because you can run them slower 2016-07-01T03:22:56 < upgrdman> link? 2016-07-01T03:22:59 < dongs> for less power consumption 2016-07-01T03:23:35 < dongs> https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/TS8060A-6-inch-tft-lcd-monitor_1853049115.html 2016-07-01T03:23:38 < dongs> this kinda shit 2016-07-01T03:24:13 < dongs> TS8060A is part# 2016-07-01T03:24:17 < dongs> anyway, i duonno if F7 can drive it. 2016-07-01T03:24:21 < dongs> i thought it only had 2 mipi lanes. 2016-07-01T03:24:35 < Laurenceb__> isnt there a newer F7 board now? 2016-07-01T03:24:43 < Laurenceb__> F7 nucleo or something with screen? 2016-07-01T03:25:18 < dongs> wstf 2016-07-01T03:25:20 < dongs> ST site changed again 2016-07-01T03:26:18 < dongs> http://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/stm32f765bg.pdf hey what, they're finally starting to use readable links 2016-07-01T03:26:25 < dongs> which redirect back to thier insane shit but 2016-07-01T03:26:26 < dongs> at least 2016-07-01T03:26:27 < dongs> some progress 2016-07-01T03:26:49 < dongs> MIPI® DSI host controller supporting up to 2016-07-01T03:26:49 < dongs> 720p 30 Hz resolution 2016-07-01T03:26:52 < dongs> well tehre goes that idea 2016-07-01T03:27:41 < dongs> Supports up to two D-PHY data lanes 2016-07-01T03:27:42 < dongs> k 2016-07-01T03:27:44 < dongs> so i was right 2016-07-01T03:27:46 < dongs> 2 lanes 2016-07-01T03:27:55 < upgrdman> so is mipi dsi like a standard? so assuming same connector, can swap with ~any lcd and ItJustWorks(tm) ? 2016-07-01T03:28:01 < upgrdman> and lane count 2016-07-01T03:28:13 < dongs> sure if you have LCD startup sequence 2016-07-01T03:28:24 < dongs> you have to send a bunch of shit over dsi low-speed link to initialize the LCD driver chip adn shit 2016-07-01T03:28:55 < dongs> its an electrical standard, I don't think there's ever been a connector standard 2016-07-01T03:30:24 < dongs> cuz everyone rolls thier own 2016-07-01T03:32:23 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T03:32:36 < dongs> did china eat your chats 2016-07-01T03:33:11 < dongs> uNFBGA 2016-07-01T03:33:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T03:33:38 < dongs> i see they have 0.8mm pitch shit finally 2016-07-01T03:33:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T03:34:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T03:35:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-01T03:38:38 < Rob235> for pc? 2016-07-01T03:39:03 < ReadError> ohsix http://i.imgur.com/0515Rht.png 2016-07-01T03:39:09 < Rob235> not my kinda games so I haven't really noticed 2016-07-01T03:42:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-01T03:42:38 < kakimir> ReadError: what is that? 2016-07-01T03:48:36 < ReadError> fake LDO 2016-07-01T03:49:45 < upgrdman_> lovely cn internet access :/ 2016-07-01T03:50:04 < upgrdman_> "page unresponsive" and "this page is not available" are like burned into my LCD 2016-07-01T03:50:33 < upgrdman_> dropping packets all over the place 2016-07-01T03:55:12 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:03:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T04:03:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:13:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:14:59 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-246.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:15:46 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-5-184.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-01T04:18:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T04:19:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:32:08 < dongs> i downloaded torrent over VPN yesterday, can totally recommend 2016-07-01T04:36:56 -!- Emil [fihlmae1@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-cjkuvjvcmekfjkxv] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:36:56 -!- ds2 [~ds2@rehut.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:36:56 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:36:56 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:42:03 < ReadError> that inside worlds toughest prisons show 2016-07-01T04:42:04 < ReadError> the guy 2016-07-01T04:42:09 < ReadError> you seen Scam City ? 2016-07-01T04:42:24 < ReadError> oh its pretty kewl 2016-07-01T04:43:06 < ReadError> nah i mounted them on empty boards 2016-07-01T04:44:26 < dongs> w10 wat 2016-07-01T04:44:32 < dongs> i download windows 10 from msdn, bro 2016-07-01T04:45:15 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T04:45:17 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-01T04:47:05 < dongs> crt: no, there's april combined release on msdn 2016-07-01T04:47:10 < PeterM> you just get the latest msdn release 2016-07-01T04:47:16 < PeterM> yer what dingle said 2016-07-01T04:47:24 < dongs> en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_apr_2016_x64_dvd_8705583.iso 2016-07-01T04:47:32 < dongs> i'm waiting for like june/july rollup 2016-07-01T04:47:36 < dongs> and will reinstall my deskto 2016-07-01T05:14:03 < Rob235> ahh finally found my perfect vape setup 2016-07-01T05:21:27 < dongs> does it involve killing yourself 2016-07-01T05:23:41 < ReadError> got a new tab torch today so i can stone more easily 2016-07-01T05:24:29 < emeb> meh - stemwin won't let me draw to memory buffer. 2016-07-01T05:24:40 < emeb> creating the buffer fails... 2016-07-01T05:24:42 < dongs> their internal buffer? 2016-07-01T05:24:56 < dongs> i remember having some issue like that 2016-07-01T05:25:39 < emeb> GUI_MEMDEV_Create() always returns 0 even though I've given STemwin plenty of memory. 2016-07-01T05:26:22 < emeb> and GUI_SUPPORT_MEMDEV is set to 1 2016-07-01T05:26:58 < dongs> mhm 2016-07-01T05:27:08 < dongs> doenst it need you to provide an allocator also 2016-07-01T05:27:10 < dongs> i forgot 2016-07-01T05:27:26 < dongs> are you trying to make a small one? 2016-07-01T05:27:29 < dongs> or fullscreen sized 2016-07-01T05:27:46 < emeb> small one 2016-07-01T05:27:59 < emeb> only (!) 64kB 2016-07-01T05:28:08 < emeb> 100x320 16bbp 2016-07-01T05:29:08 < dongs> did oyu use GUI_ALLOCmemory or someshit 2016-07-01T05:29:15 < dongs> to give it a bigger chunk of shit to use? 2016-07-01T05:29:33 < emeb> yeah - in GUIConf.c -> GUI_ALLOC_AssignMemory(aMemory, GUI_NUMBYTES); 2016-07-01T05:29:38 < dongs> rite 2016-07-01T05:29:43 < emeb> where aMemory is a large static array. 2016-07-01T05:29:47 < dongs> and amemory is big enough for all that shit? 2016-07-01T05:29:51 < emeb> yup 2016-07-01T05:32:15 < emeb> wonder if it makes a diff which .a lib one uses. 2016-07-01T05:32:44 < emeb> using the _ot.a now... 2016-07-01T05:33:16 < dongs> ther's no getlasterror to find out waht the problem was? 2016-07-01T05:45:45 < emeb> not that I can find 2016-07-01T05:49:18 < emeb> hmm... succeeds for smaller buffers. Must try to find the limit 2016-07-01T05:49:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T05:50:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T05:50:39 < emeb> 79x79 works, 80x80 doesn't 2016-07-01T05:51:23 < emeb> (for 64kB) 2016-07-01T05:51:39 < emeb> bump it up to 128kB and 80x80 works 2016-07-01T05:53:23 < dongs> nice 2016-07-01T05:55:17 < upgrdman_> can i put subscipt text in altium symbol pin names 2016-07-01T05:56:02 < dongs> no 2016-07-01T05:56:08 < dongs> the only modifier is \ 2016-07-01T05:56:12 < dongs> for overbar 2016-07-01T05:56:33 < upgrdman_> k 2016-07-01T05:56:48 < dongs> nbot sure why you'd ever want to 2016-07-01T05:58:05 < emeb> got it working for smaller buffer area. 2016-07-01T05:58:17 < emeb> definitely speeds up overall performance. 2016-07-01T06:00:44 -!- Chris_M|2 is now known as Chris_M 2016-07-01T06:07:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T06:07:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:12:45 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:13:36 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T06:14:45 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T06:15:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:18:35 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:18:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T06:19:20 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-01T06:21:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:31:48 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:33:18 < englishman> emeb_mac: unrelated, and not stm32 https://i.sli.mg/qjfKHd.jpg 2016-07-01T06:33:22 < englishman> but still m0 2016-07-01T06:33:33 < englishman> was doign some gfx stuff last week hehe 2016-07-01T06:33:52 < englishman> are you using timecube with stemwin 2016-07-01T06:33:59 < emeb_mac> englishman: cool - 160x128? 2016-07-01T06:34:03 < englishman> yeah 2016-07-01T06:34:26 < emeb_mac> Not using cube but HAL 2016-07-01T06:34:29 < emeb_mac> on an F7 2016-07-01T06:34:39 < emeb_mac> and a 320x240 2016-07-01T06:35:06 < emeb_mac> I suspect that the m0 would probably do fine 2016-07-01T06:35:21 < englishman> my chip doesnt even have dma 2016-07-01T06:35:31 < englishman> so that img takes like 1.5s to raster 2016-07-01T06:36:45 < emeb_mac> gah! 2016-07-01T06:36:54 < emeb_mac> which chip has no DMA? 2016-07-01T06:37:13 < englishman> cheap one 2016-07-01T06:37:48 < emeb_mac> even the $0.50 stm32f030 has DMA. 2016-07-01T06:38:03 < emeb_mac> here's my display - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/oscope2_360.png 2016-07-01T06:38:25 < englishman> wow nice 2016-07-01T06:40:03 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-01T06:40:05 < dongs> nice png 2016-07-01T06:41:04 < emeb_mac> couple of audio inputs thru an i2s codec into DMA, then triggered into a buffer then rendered into on-chip image & finally copied to the LCD 2016-07-01T06:41:37 < emeb_mac> was hilariously slow before I did the rendering on-chip 2016-07-01T06:41:53 < emeb_mac> when the waveforms had too many line segments it took a loooong time to draw. 2016-07-01T06:42:08 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-01T06:42:10 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-01T06:42:50 < emeb_mac> ohsix: nah - couldn't be bothered. 2016-07-01T06:42:58 < emeb_mac> just spend the $$ on a real scope. :) 2016-07-01T06:43:09 < emeb_mac> or get jpa to do it :) 2016-07-01T06:43:39 < emeb_mac> share and enjoy 2016-07-01T06:45:10 < emeb_mac> buddy of mine made a little 2chl scope with one of those 128x64 OLEDs and an STM32F030 2016-07-01T06:45:16 < emeb_mac> works pretty damned good. 2016-07-01T06:45:34 < emeb_mac> has variable timebase, xy mode, triggering, etc. 2016-07-01T06:53:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d983:e5fc:1583:aea1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:55:23 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T06:57:07 < Rob235_> . 2016-07-01T06:57:25 < dongs> R2COM: how many single-sided BGA layouts have you done 2016-07-01T06:57:30 < dongs> in PRO SOFT 2016-07-01T06:57:57 < dongs> when you dont put bypass caps on the bottom 2016-07-01T06:58:37 < dongs> right 2016-07-01T06:58:39 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-01T06:58:43 < dongs> but im wondering 2016-07-01T06:58:47 < dongs> cuz my old design with caps on the bottom 2016-07-01T06:58:56 < dongs> i'd put them more or less per each vcc pin right 2016-07-01T06:59:01 < dongs> but now that they're on the side 2016-07-01T06:59:06 < dongs> i wanna get rid of most of them 2016-07-01T06:59:10 < dongs> just one 0.1uf per group 2016-07-01T06:59:17 < dongs> maybe with a 1uF per voltage rail or somethin 2016-07-01T06:59:22 < dongs> cuz they're just wasting space 2016-07-01T06:59:52 < dongs> ASSP 2016-07-01T07:00:11 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_standard_product 2016-07-01T07:00:30 < dongs> its an IC for specific purpose 2016-07-01T07:00:51 < dongs> yeah but generally speaking 2016-07-01T07:00:59 < dongs> if I have like 3 vcc pins in a row 2016-07-01T07:01:00 < dongs> near the center 2016-07-01T07:01:07 < dongs> and im gonna run that rail out to the edge 2016-07-01T07:01:14 < dongs> whats the point of stickign 3 0.1uf ca ps on there 2016-07-01T07:01:18 < dongs> theres gonna be none 2016-07-01T07:01:32 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-01T07:01:36 < dongs> no analog shit here 2016-07-01T07:06:00 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T07:07:15 < dongs> mkay 2016-07-01T07:07:16 < dongs> theres 2016-07-01T07:07:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:07:20 < dongs> a bunch of dumb voltage rails 2016-07-01T07:07:28 < dongs> but I think if im not gonna be doing them individually i can just connect all teh shit togther 2016-07-01T07:08:34 < dongs> R2COM: i have like 2016-07-01T07:08:37 < dongs> DVDD12 2016-07-01T07:08:46 < dongs> AVDD12 rx/tx 2016-07-01T07:08:51 < dongs> AVDD12 Osc 2016-07-01T07:08:51 < dongs> etc. 2016-07-01T07:08:56 < dongs> they're all 1.2V anyway 2016-07-01T07:09:08 < dongs> but the shit is bypassed indidivudllaly so... fuckit i can just connect it all to 1.2V 2016-07-01T07:09:54 < dongs> the official way is bead -> bypass -> vdd stuff 2016-07-01T07:10:21 < dongs> i only have 2 types of bead 2016-07-01T07:10:23 < dongs> 0402 and 0603. 2016-07-01T07:10:29 < dongs> and i dont care what specs they are 2016-07-01T07:10:36 < dongs> cuz thats what all chinadesigns uses 2016-07-01T07:10:42 < dongs> its like 120R or someshit 2016-07-01T07:11:11 < dongs> nah man ive been using these for years 2016-07-01T07:11:22 < dongs> its standard component when schematic needs 'bead' 2016-07-01T07:11:32 < dongs> 0402 shit goes up to 1A 0603 goes up to 3A or someshit 2016-07-01T07:13:28 < dongs> and lose the beads? ok. 2016-07-01T07:13:47 < dongs> seems like sound advice. 2016-07-01T07:17:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:20:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T07:21:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:21:28 < emeb_mac> ohsix: guy I know evaluated a bunch of cheapo scopes and liked this one best -> http://www.jyetech.com/Products/LcdScope/e138.php 2016-07-01T07:22:07 < dongs> buy ohsix a scope fund 2016-07-01T07:22:09 < dongs> patreon time 2016-07-01T07:23:04 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-07-01T07:23:19 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl-mDqMHoKw fuck yea i need this 2016-07-01T07:29:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-01T07:29:42 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:33:30 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-01T07:36:28 < dongs> haha 2016-07-01T07:40:34 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:42:16 < dongs> hehe 2016-07-01T07:42:22 < dongs> list of clone sellers: http://www.jyetech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=497 like 30+ people 2016-07-01T07:42:29 < dongs> list of good sellers: http://wwww.jyetech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=504 like 2 people 2016-07-01T07:42:42 < dongs> also isny jyetech chinks 2016-07-01T07:42:50 < dongs> calling out china for cloning china is a bit much 2016-07-01T07:44:12 < dongs> useful for ohsix 2016-07-01T07:44:19 < dongs> and other autistic fucks 2016-07-01T07:44:25 < dongs> that'll keep him busy for years 2016-07-01T07:45:10 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-01T07:45:20 < dongs> where's DSO138 schematic, emeb_mac 2016-07-01T07:45:27 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:45:47 < emeb_mac> dongs: beats me. I couldn't care less about that low-end stuff. :) 2016-07-01T07:46:04 < dongs> ya i was just curious waht dumb picmicro they used for the main mcu 2016-07-01T07:46:27 < emeb_mac> right 2016-07-01T07:46:58 < emeb_mac> I still don't have an actual DSO - did some comparisons a few weeks back 2016-07-01T07:47:01 < dongs> oh its F103CB 2016-07-01T07:47:08 < dongs> pfft 2016-07-01T07:47:10 < emeb_mac> cheap 2016-07-01T07:47:29 < dongs> [ TRIGGED ] label on board 2016-07-01T07:51:45 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T07:52:07 < emeb_mac> trigger warning 2016-07-01T07:52:23 < anton02> what james.coz says in the very last post in this thread doesn't make sense. https://my.st.com/public/STe2ecommunities/mcu/Lists/cortex_mx_stm32/Flat.aspx?RootFolder=https%3a%2f%2fmy%2est%2ecom%2fpublic%2fSTe2ecommunities%2fmcu%2fLists%2fcortex_mx_stm32%2fData%20transfer%20from%20GPIO%20port%20to%20RAM%20buffer%20using%20DMA%20upon%20receiving%20a%20trigger%20signal%20on%20the%20timer%20capture%20input%20channel&FolderCTID=0x01200200770978C69 2016-07-01T07:52:23 < anton02> A1141439FE559EB459D7580009C4E14902C3CDE46A77F0FFD06506F5B¤tviews=5917 2016-07-01T07:52:37 < dongs> nice url bro 2016-07-01T07:52:55 < dongs> why do vendors always use such retarded software for forums 2016-07-01T07:53:03 < dongs> cant they just pay $5 to some shithead like ohsix 2016-07-01T07:53:06 < dongs> to install phpbb 2016-07-01T07:53:38 < anton02> alright ill just copy paste his post 2016-07-01T07:53:40 < anton02> " 2016-07-01T07:53:40 < anton02> Alright i figured out the problem. 2016-07-01T07:53:40 < anton02> Since I'm transferring data from peripheral register (ODR) to a memory location, I should actually use MemoryToMemory mode in my DMA initialization setting. This is also the reason I should only use DMA2 instead of DMA1 because DMA1 doesn't support M2M transaction. 2016-07-01T07:53:40 < anton02> Still, thank you for your code example Clive1. " 2016-07-01T07:58:09 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T08:01:11 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-01T08:01:13 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-01T08:02:03 < anton02> i will have a 4k monitor soon 2016-07-01T08:03:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T08:08:34 < Yoduza> may be new transistors high quality ? 2016-07-01T08:08:59 < dongs> high wquality autism 2016-07-01T08:09:46 < englishman> awaiting free energy tesla coil chats 2016-07-01T08:09:50 < englishman> always entertaining 2016-07-01T08:09:53 < dongs> they have begun 2016-07-01T08:09:57 < dongs> just get ohsix involved 2016-07-01T08:10:11 < englishman> Yoduza: you should talk to ohsix 2016-07-01T08:10:19 < englishman> he knows a lot about transistors and tesla coils 2016-07-01T08:10:26 < anton02> memory to memory won't work for him if he intends to do anything useful because you cant set the memory pointer on the GPIO to remain constant after each transfer that way. He can do one transfer but that's it. 2016-07-01T08:10:42 < Yoduza> :D 2016-07-01T08:11:20 < Yoduza> funny, dongs 2016-07-01T08:12:16 * Yoduza think about ISDS205X osciloscope to buy 2016-07-01T08:12:32 < brianx> telsa didn't succeed in making energy free??? 2016-07-01T08:12:37 < PeterM> have you tried using a rock instead? 2016-07-01T08:13:33 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/lol-is-this-usbee-dx-clone/32515029562.html hahaha 2016-07-01T08:13:44 < dongs> hm not dx 2016-07-01T08:13:59 < dongs> http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/5392209200_1352840220.jpg 2016-07-01T08:14:05 < dongs> this is the chinese aids clones of usbee USB thing 2016-07-01T08:14:08 < dongs> they're completely awful 2016-07-01T08:14:24 < englishman> isnt usbee already awful 2016-07-01T08:14:28 < dongs> yes 2016-07-01T08:14:31 < dongs> but clones are worse 2016-07-01T08:14:49 < englishman> comes with nice riglol probes 2016-07-01T08:17:37 < emeb_mac> rigol. meh 2016-07-01T08:18:04 < emeb_mac> dongs: suggestion on a decent DSO that doesn't cost $5k? 2016-07-01T08:18:04 < ReadError> they make alright stuff for the money 2016-07-01T08:18:18 < dongs> emeb_mac: whatsa a DSO? like scope? 2016-07-01T08:18:22 < emeb_mac> ya 2016-07-01T08:18:31 < emeb_mac> digital sampling oscilloscope 2016-07-01T08:18:38 < dongs> i'll sell you my DPO4034 for less than 5k if you want 2016-07-01T08:18:44 < emeb_mac> lols 2016-07-01T08:19:26 < englishman> good deal 2016-07-01T08:20:09 < Yoduza> http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/5392209200_1352840220.jpg what is that ? 2016-07-01T08:20:22 < dongs> Yoduza: most likely insides of that shit you posted 2016-07-01T08:20:25 < dongs> ISDS205x 2016-07-01T08:20:34 < Yoduza> :o 2016-07-01T08:20:34 < dongs> or very similar to it 2016-07-01T08:20:58 < dongs> hah that board actually says usbeedx 2016-07-01T08:21:00 < dongs> i wonder if thats the real one 2016-07-01T08:21:28 < dongs> in that cse, evne more lol cuz they acutally did use a fucking USB hub and 2 cyypress chips 2016-07-01T08:21:38 < dongs> they sell that garbage for $999 2016-07-01T08:21:41 < anton02> just use sound card's mic input as oscilloscope 2016-07-01T08:21:47 < ReadError> heh 2016-07-01T08:21:49 < dongs> you're doing good 2016-07-01T08:22:49 < englishman> dongs 2016-07-01T08:22:50 < englishman> https://www.amazon.com/Curved-Overpriced-3440x1440-G-SYNC-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B01C83BE6U 2016-07-01T08:22:55 < englishman> 1440p for $1300 2016-07-01T08:22:56 < englishman> what am i missing 2016-07-01T08:23:19 < Yoduza> nice thing ! 2016-07-01T08:23:24 < dongs> gay-sync needs some FPGA shit 2016-07-01T08:23:26 < dongs> cuz nvidia are kikes 2016-07-01T08:23:42 < dongs> half of that cost is probly gync licensing fees 2016-07-01T08:23:43 < emeb_mac> meh - usb scope trash 2016-07-01T08:23:44 < englishman> just 100Hz tho? 2016-07-01T08:23:51 < dongs> no idea 2016-07-01T08:23:55 < dongs> i dont do above 60hz 2016-07-01T08:24:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T08:25:15 < Yoduza> resonance transformers need 10 000 Hz - 20 000 000 Hz 2016-07-01T08:25:45 < emeb_mac> was looking at this one: http://www.tequipment.net/Instek/GDS-2204E/Digital-Oscilloscopes/?gclid=CjwKEAjwsr-6BRCLvrj785rbhTsSJADjUxak2LkQSujkraEnyUrgsWts-pu1XX7Yjo4K3tMzU42m8hoCxhnw_wcB 2016-07-01T08:25:53 < anton02> why don't people just use 12v switch mode power supplies to power their thirsty GPUs instead of spending hundred on high wattage PC psus 2016-07-01T08:25:55 < emeb_mac> has SPI / I2C decoders built in 2016-07-01T08:26:03 < dongs> so does my tek 2016-07-01T08:26:13 < dongs> emeb_mac: i find on-scope bus decoders a bit trash 2016-07-01T08:26:17 < emeb_mac> yeah 2016-07-01T08:26:34 < emeb_mac> the tek I looked at the decoders were like a $500 add-on pak 2016-07-01T08:26:50 < dongs> well, mine has all those 2016-07-01T08:27:09 < Yoduza> www.tequipment.net - 2016-07-01T08:27:09 < Yoduza> 2016-07-01T08:27:09 < Yoduza> Access Denied 2016-07-01T08:27:09 < Yoduza> Error code 16 2016-07-01T08:27:09 < Yoduza> 2016-07-01T08:27:10 < Yoduza> This request was blocked by the security rules 2016-07-01T08:27:10 < Yoduza> 2016-07-01 05:26:34 UTC 2016-07-01T08:27:11 < Yoduza> 2016-07-01T08:27:11 < Yoduza> Your IP130.180.219.40 2016-07-01T08:27:12 < Yoduza> |Proxy IP192.230.78.193(ID 10323) 2016-07-01T08:27:12 < Yoduza> 2016-07-01T08:27:12 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T08:27:13 < Yoduza> Incident ID: 323001100063743895-168995375297005289 2016-07-01T08:27:15 < Yoduza> sorryy !!!!! 2016-07-01T08:27:29 < dongs> we finally know Yoduza ip 2016-07-01T08:27:30 < dongs> time to packet 2016-07-01T08:27:30 < emeb_mac> you're denied! 2016-07-01T08:29:42 < anton02> i found the answer: You still have a voltage differential and potential short circuit between the two PSUs, the graphics card is slotted into the mainboard. Potential exists between the + power on both devices(since they are separated). It may not happen today, tomorrow, or the next day, but when you get unreliable power(say no Uninteruptible Power SUpply, due to costs) or a load on one and not the other, you will have problems. 2016-07-01T08:30:34 < dongs> people who buy video cards that take up more than one slot 2016-07-01T08:30:41 < dongs> or require a PCIe power connector are fags anyway 2016-07-01T08:30:55 < Yoduza> if i will use Oscilloscope Probe 200V and Oscilloscope 1/10 60V max. Is it work together ok if I test 180V ? 2016-07-01T08:31:07 < dongs> i hope it does 2016-07-01T08:31:14 < dongs> make sure not to wear rubber gloves 2016-07-01T08:32:08 < jpa-> Yoduza: it should, but i suggest connect stuff before connecting power and make sure your ground clip will not pop out 2016-07-01T08:32:20 < anton02> dongs, i never knew there was graphics cards that dont require a power connector 2016-07-01T08:32:27 < dongs> anton02: every card I ever owned 2016-07-01T08:32:41 < anton02> oh, true those old AGP ones 2016-07-01T08:33:02 < dongs> nope 2016-07-01T08:33:19 < dongs> http://images.nvidia.com/content/quadro/product-literature/data-sheets/11306_DS_NV_Quadro_K1200_FEB15_NV_US_HR.pdf no power connector 2016-07-01T08:33:55 < anton02> do you only use it for matlab? 2016-07-01T08:34:02 < dongs> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvs-510-graphics-card.html 2016-07-01T08:34:05 < dongs> no power connector 2016-07-01T08:34:11 < dongs> anton02: i use it with 3 4K monitors 2016-07-01T08:47:19 < anton02> im beginning to suspect that DMA memory to peripheral doesnt work with NVIC but only TIMs 2016-07-01T08:47:30 < dongs> wat 2016-07-01T08:47:41 < dongs> you mean triggering it? 2016-07-01T08:47:50 < dongs> how do you even trigger it "with nvic" 2016-07-01T08:47:52 < jpa-> anton02: how would you be using it with NVIC? 2016-07-01T08:48:15 < anton02> its an interrupt controller 2016-07-01T08:48:17 < jpa-> but NVIC control registers might very well not be reachable through the DMA bus.. not sure why you would want to write to them with DMA.. 2016-07-01T08:48:29 < jpa-> anton02: yes, and? 2016-07-01T08:48:31 < anton02> nvic triggers the dma transfer 2016-07-01T08:48:35 < jpa-> no it doesn't 2016-07-01T08:48:44 < jpa-> how do you suspect you would configure it to do that? 2016-07-01T08:48:58 < anton02> theres an option 2016-07-01T08:49:03 < jpa-> where? 2016-07-01T08:49:07 < anton02> ill show you 2016-07-01T08:49:20 < jpa-> (well, you can of course have your interrupt handler trigger it by software, but what would be the point..) 2016-07-01T08:49:28 < anton02> NVIC_InitStructure.NVIC_IRQChannel = DMA2_Stream6_IRQn; 2016-07-01T08:49:49 < dongs> ,,, 2016-07-01T08:49:49 < anton02> thats what they include in examples 2016-07-01T08:49:50 < dongs> lol 2016-07-01T08:49:50 < jpa-> that is to make the DMA trigger interrupt, not the other way 2016-07-01T08:50:03 < jpa-> so that you'll get IRQ when the DMA completes 2016-07-01T08:50:11 < dongs> mind: blown 2016-07-01T08:50:16 < dongs> is THAT how it works?! 2016-07-01T08:50:24 < jpa-> karlp: some more snips for you^^ 2016-07-01T08:50:55 < dongs> where's pull request 2016-07-01T08:51:33 -!- merbzt [~benjamin@c-4e0be555.03-170-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T08:51:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T08:51:54 < ReadError> http://www.ti.com/product/lp5912 these are cute 2016-07-01T08:52:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T08:54:22 < anton02> i didn't come up with the idea. it's ST who's included that in their example code. 2016-07-01T08:55:01 < jpa-> anton02: it is a reasonable thing to do, but it does not do what you seem to think it does 2016-07-01T08:55:37 < dongs> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/commit/5363334cd8ee5780f0e612d16302ba2ba8921c28 2016-07-01T08:55:41 < dongs> haha 2016-07-01T08:58:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T08:59:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:02:12 -!- merbzt [~benjamin@c-4e0be555.03-170-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T09:02:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T09:02:38 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:04:16 < anton02> i dont event know what a peripheral is 2016-07-01T09:05:13 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T09:05:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:06:43 < anton02> yeah i've just discovered its possible looking through the options in stm32cube 2016-07-01T09:08:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T09:10:25 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:17:49 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T09:18:30 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:21:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d983:e5fc:1583:aea1] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-01T09:27:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d983:e5fc:1583:aea1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:30:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T09:37:31 < englishman> emeb_mac: logic decoders are free (hax) in riglol dsos and also trash 2016-07-01T09:37:37 < englishman> $8 saleaeclone is better 2016-07-01T09:38:12 < emeb_mac> blech 2016-07-01T09:39:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-01T09:45:00 < dongs> thats not saying much 2016-07-01T09:45:05 < dongs> saleae softare is awful too 2016-07-01T09:50:05 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNA9xHTotFI 2016-07-01T09:51:45 < PeterM> "bass" = "buhs" 2016-07-01T09:55:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-07-01T10:01:03 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-01T10:03:22 < englishman> lol haggling over $12 2016-07-01T10:03:31 < dongs> lol 2016-07-01T10:03:43 < dongs> the speakers themselves are like $18 2016-07-01T10:04:37 < PeterM> lol, DESIGNATED 2016-07-01T10:05:06 -!- sykemyke [syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-01T10:05:16 < anton02> b2pol 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !!==–..__..-=-._; 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !!==–..@..-=-._; 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !!==–..__..-=-._; 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !! 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !! 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !! 2016-07-01T10:07:30 < englishman> !! 2016-07-01T10:07:31 < englishman> !! 2016-07-01T10:07:31 < englishman> \\\|||\\\|||\\\ \\\|||\\\|||\\\UR Indian Consumer \\\|||\\\|||\\\\\\|||\\\|||\\\ 2016-07-01T10:07:46 < englishman> rofl 2016-07-01T10:07:54 < PeterM> yeah could you not\ 2016-07-01T10:07:55 < dongs> is that indian flag 2016-07-01T10:08:13 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T10:10:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.85] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T10:15:29 < Yoduza> ohsix, may be some new high quality power transistors ? price does not mean anything 2016-07-01T10:18:21 < BrainDamage> 1.2096microfortnights^-1 2016-07-01T10:18:24 < Yoduza> 80MHz, 1600W 2016-07-01T10:20:31 < anton02> HAL devs made some very poor choices in their function names and variable names 2016-07-01T10:20:49 < jpa-> ST's HAL is crap, does it still come as a surprise to you? 2016-07-01T10:23:03 < anton02> this line for example references the destination increment mode when in memory_to_memory DMA mode. DMA_InitStructure.DMA_PeripheralInc = DMA_PeripheralInc_Disable 2016-07-01T10:23:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T10:23:29 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-01T10:23:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T10:23:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T10:24:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-07-01T10:25:28 < anton02> its actually the memory increment mode of the destination though. 2016-07-01T10:27:16 < anton02> there is no peripheral in this case 2016-07-01T10:27:20 < jpa-> doesn't seem that bad as far as HAL goes 2016-07-01T10:27:28 < jpa-> and who cares, it is obvious what it means anyway 2016-07-01T10:28:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T10:33:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T10:44:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T10:49:01 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-01T10:51:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d983:e5fc:1583:aea1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T10:51:40 < dongs> http://urlify.io/ 2016-07-01T11:03:29 < anton02> http://6h2.xyz/ethnic_gxxcz_isis-dark-net_ttrjn_weeabo-arsonporn_d0wnload 2016-07-01T11:11:32 < qyx> http://imgur.com/a/xSbAq 2016-07-01T11:11:38 < qyx> lifepo4 and LTO arrived \o/ 2016-07-01T11:11:56 < anton02> i needed this so that my memory address pointer pointing to SDRAM would increment. DmaHandle.Init.PeriphInc = DMA_PINC_ENABLE. And this so that my GPIO address would not increment DmaHandle.Init.MemInc = DMA_MINC_DISABLE 2016-07-01T11:12:26 < qyx> no banana available, the LTO is 18650 2016-07-01T11:12:27 < anton02> so as you can see that's the opposite to what you would expect 2016-07-01T11:14:21 < anton02> it's also inconsistent with what they had in the standard peripheral library 2016-07-01T11:15:38 < anton02> and it leads me to the question of why ST is so underfunded 2016-07-01T11:22:55 < anton02> oh well at least I know how to use the st-link debugger now 2016-07-01T11:34:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T11:39:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@reserved-87-252-252-118.telecom.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T11:41:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-01T11:42:33 < jpa-> anton02: nah, you are just using it the wrong way around 2016-07-01T11:42:56 < anton02> jpa-, what do you mean? 2016-07-01T11:43:04 < jpa-> seems you are putting memory address to peripheral address register & vice versa 2016-07-01T11:43:40 < anton02> i couldnt be though otherwise it wouldn't be transferring in the correct direction which it is 2016-07-01T11:43:58 < jpa-> there is a bit to switch the direction, you should use that 2016-07-01T11:44:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@reserved-87-252-252-118.telecom.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-01T11:45:27 < anton02> using the HAL function I did that and it stopped working altogether 2016-07-01T11:45:41 < anton02> this one DmaHandle.Init.Direction = DMA_MEMORY_TO_MEMORY; 2016-07-01T11:45:59 < anton02> i had it as DMA_MEMORY_TO_PERIPH and it wouldnt work at all 2016-07-01T11:46:08 < jpa-> then you failed elsewhere 2016-07-01T11:46:25 < anton02> not really 2016-07-01T11:46:26 < jpa-> changing things randomly is not a debugging method 2016-07-01T11:46:29 < jpa-> yes, really 2016-07-01T11:46:55 < dongs> he's even using keil 2016-07-01T11:46:58 < dongs> and he's STILL failin 2016-07-01T11:47:01 < dongs> i think this guy just sucks 2016-07-01T11:47:15 < dongs> when you have the awesome debugging environment of keil its impossible to make mistakes 2016-07-01T11:47:15 < jpa-> MEMORY_TO_MEMORY works without trigger at the best-effort speed of DMA controller, for pretty much any peripheral transfer you would want a triggered transfer at regular rate 2016-07-01T11:47:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.59] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T11:48:24 < jpa-> if you really want to run a peripheral transfer at whatever speed happens to be available after other system load, sure, you can use MEMORY_TO_MEMORY but then don't be surprised that the names are confusing, it is because you are using a hacky approach 2016-07-01T11:48:37 < dongs> lol 2016-07-01T11:48:40 < dongs> jpa, does that work? 2016-07-01T11:48:48 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-07-01T11:48:52 < jpa-> it should, and apparently it does for anton02 which says a lot 2016-07-01T11:48:54 < dongs> memory2memory using any channel and just selecting peripheral address? 2016-07-01T11:48:57 < dongs> haha 2016-07-01T11:49:21 < dongs> i should try it sometime when im bored 2016-07-01T11:49:22 < jpa-> i think one can still use the direction bit with M2M if not using HAL trash 2016-07-01T11:49:37 < jpa-> because M2M is basically just "don't wait for trigger" bit 2016-07-01T11:50:10 < dongs> sure 2016-07-01T11:51:54 < dongs> https://world.taobao.com/item/45786920317.htm?fromSite=main&spm=2013.1.0.0.UShFeG 2016-07-01T11:51:57 < dongs> nice 2016-07-01T11:51:58 < dongs> need to find this on ebay 2016-07-01T11:52:42 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281891800842 bingo 2016-07-01T11:55:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-01T12:06:46 < qyx> yep, it looks exactly like a capacitor 2016-07-01T12:07:04 < qyx> http://www.ev-power.eu/LiFePO4-small-cells/WINA-LiFePO4-Power-3-2V-8Ah-aluminium-case.html 2016-07-01T12:17:34 -!- Ron___ [25c42b7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.196.43.127] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T12:17:58 < Ron___> Hi guys can someone help me understand SPI interface to RFM22B 2016-07-01T12:18:30 < Ron___> What speed should I read and write to the registers on RFM22B using STM32 SPI 2016-07-01T12:22:05 < Ron___> It just says SCLK can be a maximum of 10 MHz but even if I write at 4MHz it fails to read or write. 2016-07-01T12:23:30 < jpa-> then the issue is something else 2016-07-01T12:23:47 < jpa-> but of course you can try at very slow speed (like 100 kHz) to see if it works then, then debug from there 2016-07-01T12:24:10 < Ron___> hspi2.Instance = SPI2; hspi2.Init.Mode = SPI_MODE_MASTER; hspi2.Init.Direction = SPI_DIRECTION_2LINES; hspi2.Init.DataSize = SPI_DATASIZE_8BIT; hspi2.Init.CLKPolarity = SPI_POLARITY_LOW; hspi2.Init.CLKPhase = SPI_PHASE_2EDGE; hspi2.Init.NSS = SPI_NSS_SOFT; hspi2.Init.BaudRatePrescaler = SPI_BAUDRATEPRESCALER_16; hspi2.Init.FirstBit = SPI_FIRSTBIT_MSB; hspi2.Init.TIMode = SPI_TIMODE_DISABLED; hspi2.Init.CRCCalculation = SPI_C 2016-07-01T12:24:32 < Ron___> I used this to initialize the SPI with RFM22B 2016-07-01T12:24:42 < jpa-> pastebin exists, and i wish that HAL didn't 2016-07-01T12:25:11 < Ron___> Oh Sorry I am new to this. 2016-07-01T12:25:28 < jpa-> anton02 can help you 2016-07-01T12:27:09 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@130.180.219.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T12:40:22 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-07-01T12:43:32 < Ron___> I have been trolled. Let me get back to my question again. Can anyone help me understand how I am supposed to work with RFM22B over SPI ? 2016-07-01T12:44:52 < Ron___> Any specific steps to debug ? 2016-07-01T12:45:05 < jpa-> take a logic analyzer or scope and see what is happening on the wire? 2016-07-01T12:46:30 < Ron___> I can see SCLK working at specified rate. ex: 9MHz, 4.5MHz and so on when i change hspi2.Init.BaudRatePrescaler = SPI_BAUDRATEPRESCALER_2 .. 4 ... 8 and so on 2016-07-01T12:50:20 < jpa-> so everything the STM32 does on the line appears correct and clock phase matches RFM22B datasheet, but it just doesn't reply? 2016-07-01T12:51:18 < Ron___> Yes. 2016-07-01T12:51:24 < __rob> just trying out the stop mode on my stm32f0, puts it into stop ok it seems 2016-07-01T12:51:33 < __rob> but the st link can't connect to it anymore 2016-07-01T12:52:00 < __rob> its the first thing it does on startup, then just enters a while loop 2016-07-01T12:52:15 < __rob> bit surprised that connect under reset wont wake it up either 2016-07-01T12:52:27 < __rob> anyone ever had that ? 2016-07-01T12:52:38 < jpa-> Ron___: well, then the issue cannot be in the STM32 code, right? 2016-07-01T12:53:24 < jpa-> __rob: is your reset wire connected? 2016-07-01T12:53:41 < Ron___> I am sure I messed up something. Just dont know where. Someone said the last time that we need to have low speed for writing and reading. 2016-07-01T12:53:42 < jpa-> __rob: i usually just put the bits in DBGMCU so that it won't go real stop mode when debugger is connected 2016-07-01T12:53:56 < jpa-> Ron___: well that is easy to try 2016-07-01T12:54:06 < __rob> reset is connected yea 2016-07-01T12:54:40 < Ron___> I changed my SPI baud rate and I can see that in oscilloscope, That it is low like 1.1 MHz 2016-07-01T12:54:42 < __rob> and I haven't set any DBGMCU bits 2016-07-01T12:54:58 < __rob> i've tried it on 2 boards, both no longer respond to the st link 2016-07-01T12:55:04 < __rob> just seems a bit odd 2016-07-01T12:55:22 < Ron___> Ok. 2016-07-01T12:55:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-36.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T12:55:41 < Ron___> I could read some other registers. 2016-07-01T12:55:58 < Ron___> But not able to read and write power and frequency 2016-07-01T12:57:24 < Ron___> I did not understand 2016-07-01T12:57:27 < jpa-> __rob: it's probably failing to use the reset pin for some reason 2016-07-01T12:57:35 < jpa-> __rob: in openocd atleast you need special config to use it 2016-07-01T12:57:35 < Ron___> Ok 2016-07-01T12:58:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T13:03:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T13:17:06 < PaulFertser> __rob: what adapter are you using and what openocd reset_config? 2016-07-01T13:17:44 < jpa-> (not sure if he is using openocd at all) 2016-07-01T13:22:12 -!- Ron___ [25c42b7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.196.43.127] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-01T13:30:00 < Steffanx> One can always pullup the boot0 pin. 2016-07-01T13:30:22 < jpa-> or use reset button 2016-07-01T13:31:06 < Steffanx> Or send the board to jpa- 2016-07-01T13:32:57 < karlp> dongs: nice exclusions list on shipping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281891800842#shpCntId 2016-07-01T13:33:16 < Steffanx> And has your sparetime vanished jpa- ? 2016-07-01T13:33:36 < jpa-> somewhat 2016-07-01T13:33:44 < jpa-> fortunately there is always worktime 2016-07-01T13:40:47 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-01T13:44:21 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T13:44:54 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-01T13:52:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-01T14:02:48 < dongs> karlp: oh its one of those racist sellers 2016-07-01T14:05:25 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T14:05:32 < karlp> ships to europe, where europe seems to mean russia, ukraine, poland. 2016-07-01T14:05:36 < karlp> oh, and spain 2016-07-01T14:06:20 < dongs> that was just first hit, im sure there's tons of same resellers 2016-07-01T14:06:28 < dongs> since original is from taobao every shitty chinaseller probly has it' 2016-07-01T14:06:42 < karlp> yeah, just curious how someone ends up with an exclusions list like that. 2016-07-01T14:07:32 < karlp> item location: china, ships to: asia, excludes: china 2016-07-01T14:07:46 < jadew> that actually makes sense 2016-07-01T14:07:56 < jadew> they have to pay some extra taxes if they sell inside china 2016-07-01T14:24:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.213] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T14:28:12 < dongs> karlp: that list sounds like the kinda list i'd never send untrackable airmail to 2016-07-01T14:28:39 < dongs> hm, no australia 2016-07-01T14:28:44 < karlp> what, france, germany, switzerland, uk... 2016-07-01T14:28:48 < dongs> yeah eh 2016-07-01T14:28:51 < dongs> that just looks racist 2016-07-01T14:29:32 < dongs> http://www.banggood.com/search/1044480.html well here you go 2016-07-01T14:29:41 < BrainDamage> i can confirm tought that italy customs with untracked packages will be just a giant black hol 2016-07-01T14:30:28 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-01T14:30:40 < dongs> i banned untracked shit to italy, germany and best korea 2016-07-01T14:30:48 < dongs> like 80% of the time shit going there was fucked 2016-07-01T14:31:26 < jadew> I'm surprised by the Romanian post 2016-07-01T14:31:32 < jadew> they really upped their game lately 2016-07-01T14:32:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@reserved-87-252-252-118.telecom.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T14:32:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@reserved-87-252-252-118.telecom.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-01T14:33:05 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-01T14:33:05 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T14:36:04 < dongs> http://www.vtac.com.tw/en/product/ec.html attn Lux 2016-07-01T14:36:05 < dongs> err 2016-07-01T14:36:11 < dongs> http://www.vtac.com.tw/en/product/ec.html attn Laurenceb__ 2016-07-01T14:36:20 < dongs> under health care product 2016-07-01T14:38:49 < Laurenceb__> nice 2016-07-01T14:40:27 < c10ud^> uh? ita here, 100% reception rate of untracked packages from chinaland 2016-07-01T14:41:09 < c10ud^> maybe the issue lies in the sender or the receiver 2016-07-01T14:41:34 < BrainDamage> i assume yours don't pass trought linate custom? 2016-07-01T14:42:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-01T14:44:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.194] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T14:45:29 < c10ud^> idk 2016-07-01T14:46:31 < Laurenceb__> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39772.msg1555375#msg1555375 2016-07-01T14:46:41 < Laurenceb__> lul I wonder which "forum" this could be 2016-07-01T14:47:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-36.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-01T14:47:57 < __rob> PaulFertser, I was using an stlink v2 2016-07-01T14:48:06 < __rob> and just the st link utility 2016-07-01T14:48:09 < __rob> not tired open OCD yet 2016-07-01T14:48:41 < PaulFertser> __rob: original stlink? 2016-07-01T14:48:44 < __rob> yea 2016-07-01T14:49:01 < __rob> the ebay ones are a bit hit and miss I've found 2016-07-01T14:52:57 < dongs> Criticism both constructive and non-constructive have pushed the DIY testers into safe spaces. 2016-07-01T14:53:00 < dongs> haha 2016-07-01T14:53:00 < dongs> spaces 2016-07-01T14:53:02 < dongs> safe sapced 2016-07-01T14:53:47 < Laurenceb__> nasaspaceflight confirmed as safe space 2016-07-01T14:54:29 < Laurenceb__> "Oh no not reality" 2016-07-01T15:01:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-01T15:02:32 < PaulFertser> __rob: ebay ones work but some have SRST routed incorrectly. There exists a fixed stlink firmware version though. 2016-07-01T15:05:45 < Sync> dongs: untracked shits in germany isn't too much of a problem, it just takes ages in customs 2016-07-01T15:05:54 < Sync> as it is lowest prio of all 2016-07-01T15:06:07 < dongs> tell that to all the faggots opening disputes 2016-07-01T15:06:40 < anton02> 108 Mhz... That's.. nice 2016-07-01T15:06:41 < Sync> ye 2016-07-01T15:11:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:14:58 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:16:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-01T15:32:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-36.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:34:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T15:35:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.218] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:40:13 -!- tecdroid_ [~icke@tmo-098-0.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:42:31 < Thorn> why is everybody talking about pre-compliance tests if you can self-certify compliance in most cases? 2016-07-01T15:42:59 < Sync> because most people don't do it like the cloners do 2016-07-01T15:43:12 < karlp> you can always self certify, but that puts you on the hook that your compliance is ok. 2016-07-01T15:43:26 < karlp> pre comp tests just means that someone else agrees that it looks "pretty much maybe sort of ok" 2016-07-01T15:44:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-36.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-01T15:45:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-01T15:46:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.101] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:48:31 -!- jaws [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T15:49:58 < Thorn> what is the difference between a pre comp and full comp test if the full comp lab is not accredited/certified in any special way (as it seems to be common in the EU)? 2016-07-01T15:51:29 < jaws> I don't see stm32 chips that support 5V power. why? 2016-07-01T16:01:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:02:35 < Sync> jaws: because they don't 2016-07-01T16:02:48 < Sync> Thorn: liability 2016-07-01T16:05:35 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T16:06:19 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:07:20 -!- tecdroid_ [~icke@tmo-098-0.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:07:21 < jpa-> Thorn: usually pre tests are run at a bit shorter dwell time and perhaps less angles 2016-07-01T16:08:48 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:13:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:14:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.101] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T16:14:52 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@2a00:5881:4008:508:a11a:1301:4:123] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:16:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T16:18:01 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T16:19:01 < trepidacious> Anyone know the exact behaviour of chThdSleepMilliseconds(1) on ChibiOS? Does it delay at least one millisecond, or just to the next 1ms tick? 2016-07-01T16:21:37 < qyx> it doesn't work with 0 2016-07-01T16:21:40 < qyx> at least in my experience 2016-07-01T16:21:53 < jpa-> IIRC it is just until next tick but not sure now 2016-07-01T16:21:55 < karlp> trepidacious: no rule that the systick is 1ms either. 2016-07-01T16:22:10 < trepidacious> Yup, in my case it's 1ms 2016-07-01T16:22:55 < trepidacious> From scope, it looks like it waits for the next tick, so if I do while(TRUE) { doSomething(); sleep(1); } I get less than 1ms between the end of one doSomething() and the beginning of the next 2016-07-01T16:23:07 < karlp> so your question is, "is this going to be between 1 and 2ms or between 0 and 1ms" 2016-07-01T16:23:14 < trepidacious> Yup exactly 2016-07-01T16:23:32 < qyx> aha, I misread that 2016-07-01T16:24:10 < trepidacious> From scope, I think it is between 0 and 1, but I can't find anything to confirm that in docs/forum so far 2016-07-01T16:24:13 < karlp> it says rounded up in the docs. 2016-07-01T16:24:25 < karlp> but rounded up to a value allowed... 2016-07-01T16:24:29 < trepidacious> Ah yeah, but the rounding up (AFAICT) is of the number you pass it, not the actual time slept 2016-07-01T16:24:31 < jpa-> the MS_TO_SYSTICK() rounds up 2016-07-01T16:24:35 < trepidacious> Yup 2016-07-01T16:24:58 < trepidacious> so if you had 2ms systick and you asked for sleep(1) you would get sleep(2)... but would it be 0-2ms or 2-4ms? ;) 2016-07-01T16:25:24 < trepidacious> where sleep is chThdSleepMilliseconds, got sick of typing it :) 2016-07-01T16:25:30 < karlp> it just calls chThdSleep in the end. 2016-07-01T16:25:36 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-01T16:25:43 < karlp> so you're gonna have to look. 2016-07-01T16:25:51 < karlp> and both of them are arguably correct. 2016-07-01T16:25:53 < trepidacious> I followed that through docs until I got to an undocumented function, I guess I need to read that :) 2016-07-01T16:26:09 < jpa-> i tried to look at the sources, but not obvious from there either 2016-07-01T16:26:12 < trepidacious> yup either behaviour is fine, I just have a bug that would be explained by the 0-1ms behaviour, but not by 1-2ms 2016-07-01T16:26:15 < jpa-> it uses the VT (virtual timer) interface 2016-07-01T16:26:19 < karlp> http://chibios.sourceforge.net/html/chthreads_8c_source.html#l00292 2016-07-01T16:26:37 < jpa-> but if i try to follow it i'm bound to make an off-by-one mistake, so easier for you to test :P 2016-07-01T16:27:08 -!- __rob [~rob@host86-165-132-167.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 2016-07-01T16:27:30 < karlp> looks like it's going into http://chibios.sourceforge.net/html/group__scheduler.html#ga306e564f678c1a39139639490c77e78b eventually then 2016-07-01T16:28:24 < karlp> I'd imagine it's the 0-1ms behaviour 2016-07-01T16:29:31 < trepidacious> Yup it seems likely to be that, and the scope would suggest that, so I think that's the cause of my bug, which is a relief :) 2016-07-01T16:30:07 < trepidacious> I'm setting up a read on an ADC then sleeping 1ms to let it finish, but that can lead to too little time for the ADC conversion 2016-07-01T16:30:49 < qyx> there was an adc conversion finished callback, wasn't there? 2016-07-01T16:31:08 < trepidacious> Ah this is an external ADC using SPI 2016-07-01T16:31:34 < karlp> sleep 900usecs instead? 2016-07-01T16:31:52 < trepidacious> If I drop the thread priority it starts getting errors, I think it's interrupted by network then does a short sleep 2016-07-01T16:31:58 < jpa-> halpolledsleep or whatever it was is good for smaller sleeps 2016-07-01T16:33:25 < trepidacious> Yup, I think I might have to just use an actual timer to get the timing right, plus maybe something to check my SPI comms complete in time, maybe check the timer value when I finish comms, I guess that would work 2016-07-01T16:33:42 < trepidacious> I want to run at about 2.8kHz 2016-07-01T16:34:12 < trepidacious> halpolledsleep would be good for this testing, better than sleep millis :) 2016-07-01T16:34:57 < trepidacious> I still get occasional errors using sleep(2), which seems like it should always sleep at least 1ms :( 2016-07-01T16:35:35 < trepidacious> Ah no it's me being an idiot, I've left the ADC in continuous conversion mode (I think all the stuff about sleep still applies though). Thanks for help :) 2016-07-01T16:42:02 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T16:43:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-01T16:45:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T16:45:55 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:02:25 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-01T17:06:09 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:06:09 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-01T17:06:09 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:21:59 < Laurenceb> sup 2016-07-01T17:22:12 * Laurenceb was thinking about mecharduino thingy 2016-07-01T17:23:04 < Laurenceb> I think it's possible to do cogging and torque compensation, but it needs a compensated flywheel 2016-07-01T17:31:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-01T17:31:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:41:01 < Laurenceb> https://hackaday.io/project/11346/gallery#cfbf8d8c24bccaad66bc502a5f68ea87 2016-07-01T17:43:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.218] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:58:26 -!- Ron___ [25c42b7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.196.43.127] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:58:51 < Ron___> Hi. I am working on STM32 with RFM22B module using SPI communication. 2016-07-01T17:59:16 -!- marble_visions [~user@89.190.193.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T17:59:17 < Ron___> I am unable to write to the module. 2016-07-01T18:00:07 < Ron___> Every thing works as it should I have verified them using an oscilloscope and see that the SPI communication does what it is supposed to do. 2016-07-01T18:00:27 < Ron___> But I dont read and write properly to the registers. 2016-07-01T18:01:15 -!- jaws [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T18:02:00 < Thorn> is spi mode correct? 2016-07-01T18:02:27 < Thorn> cpol/cpha 2016-07-01T18:03:48 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-01T18:05:32 < aandrew> that'd be my guess too 2016-07-01T18:05:45 < aandrew> or perhaps you're holding the RFM22B in reset 2016-07-01T18:10:17 < marble_visions> hi all, is anyone aware of any issues with Timer 1 on STM32F103 in output/compare mode? I don't see anything in the errata. My issue is that the timer does not put a GPIO in 0 when the compare value matches. 2016-07-01T18:10:33 * marble_visions is using the standard peripheral library, latest version 2016-07-01T18:11:05 < marble_visions> also, the GPIO pin is set to 1 to begin with, obviously. 2016-07-01T18:11:19 < jpa-> umm? 2016-07-01T18:11:35 < jpa-> the way it is supposed to work is that you configure the GPIO as alternate function output 2016-07-01T18:11:43 < jpa-> then the timer will always be driving it 2016-07-01T18:12:11 < marble_visions> correct 2016-07-01T18:12:12 < jpa-> and i'd suggest reading the reference manual and using the timer registers directly, it is easier than through stdperiph 2016-07-01T18:13:24 < marble_visions> I mean, I think I am configuring everything as per the reference manual, but it doesn't work 2016-07-01T18:13:51 < marble_visions> if I set the timer in Toggle mode, it works 2016-07-01T18:13:57 < marble_visions> the only issue is with the output compare 2016-07-01T18:14:16 < jpa-> what is your CCMR1 value? 2016-07-01T18:15:10 < jpa-> i'm not sure what you mean by "output compare"? 2016-07-01T18:15:24 < jpa-> because even the toggle mode is one mode of output compare 2016-07-01T18:16:14 < marble_visions> jpa-: let me just upload an example in pastebin.. 2016-07-01T18:16:28 < jpa-> nah, i won't bother trying to look at stdperiph crap 2016-07-01T18:16:34 < jpa-> take register values from debugger 2016-07-01T18:19:16 < marble_visions> oh, ok. 2016-07-01T18:19:49 < jpa-> it's pretty easy to accidentally get wrong configuration set with stdperiph, so just looking at that code is pretty useless 2016-07-01T18:20:10 < jpa-> even the ST sales guys admit "don't use that crap" :) 2016-07-01T18:20:41 < aandrew> marble_visions: I remember having a similar issue with PWM (not on timer0 but still) 2016-07-01T18:20:46 < aandrew> it was all set up but the output just would not move 2016-07-01T18:20:52 < aandrew> let me check real quick to see 2016-07-01T18:21:24 < jpa-> forgetting to enable channel in CCER is a common mistake, but if toggle mode works then it is not that 2016-07-01T18:23:21 < aandrew> oh I remember now 2016-07-01T18:24:08 < aandrew> HAL_TIM_PWM_ConfigChannel() disables the timer outputs. Had to explicitly call HAL_TIM_PWM_Start() afterward 2016-07-01T18:24:20 < aandrew> maybe something similar with the compare mode 2016-07-01T18:26:59 < marble_visions> aandrew: isn't HAL a different library than stdperiph? jpa-: ok, brb with CCMR1.. 2016-07-01T18:27:26 < jpa-> HAL is the never library from ST, somewhat based on stdperiph and still sucks 2016-07-01T18:27:53 < aandrew> marble_visions: it is, but perhaps stdperiph is doing something the same 2016-07-01T18:28:33 < aandrew> I'm starting to appreciate the HAL. It *is* shit but for init it's not bad. 2016-07-01T18:30:44 -!- jaws [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:33:25 < marble_visions> hmm.. I don't have much experience, but the stdperiph looks really nice 2016-07-01T18:34:04 < marble_visions> i've seed undocumented bit fiddling in configuration registers in other projects 2016-07-01T18:34:18 < marble_visions> and it looks worse than undocumented stdperiph usage 2016-07-01T18:35:24 < jpa-> bit fiddling is documented in the reference manual 2016-07-01T18:35:36 < jpa-> with stdperiph you have to dig into the useless wrapper functions to see what is happening 2016-07-01T18:36:01 < marble_visions> true dat 2016-07-01T18:39:15 < marble_visions> but it gives you an option 2016-07-01T18:39:23 < marble_visions> you could fiddle with registers if you want 2016-07-01T18:40:24 < marble_visions> i bet you build your own wrappers on top of bit fiddling anyway 2016-07-01T18:40:29 < marble_visions> when the time comes 2016-07-01T18:40:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:41:10 < marble_visions> (i'll shut up if i'm starting a flame war) 2016-07-01T18:42:44 < jpa-> knowing the registers is the only efficient way to debug anyway 2016-07-01T18:43:21 < jpa-> and no, for most stuff you don't need to build own wrappers 2016-07-01T18:44:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T18:45:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:47:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T18:47:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:52:10 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:52:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T18:53:47 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@95.236.124.57] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:53:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@95.236.124.57] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-01T18:53:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:55:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:56:04 < aandrew> looks like Lous Rossman is shutting down: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4qqv56/louis_rossmanns_youtube_channel_that_is_full_of/ 2016-07-01T18:56:07 < aandrew> torrent of all his videos to date: https://kat.cr/louis-rossmann-backup-t12864278.html?download=https://torcache.net/torrent/DD84FBA30E91CB29F9E12AA04067FB3588A04368.torrent?title=%5Bkat.cr%5Dlouis.rossmann.backup 2016-07-01T18:56:43 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T18:59:24 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T18:59:50 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p4FFA292A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-01T19:01:32 < karlp> aandrew: who is that? 2016-07-01T19:01:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T19:02:25 < Sync> some guy that fixes apple products karlp 2016-07-01T19:02:25 < aandrew> some random dude who repairs apple laptops on video. got a good head on his shoulders, got some decent diag/repair skill, and is actually one of my favourite things to watch on youtube 2016-07-01T19:03:00 < aandrew> kind of a no bullshit attitude, spouts some random life experiences/knowledge while repairing. I find it very good 2016-07-01T19:03:09 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE848C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:03:21 < PaulFertser> aandrew: did he share any guesses on how exactly FBI managed to extract the data? 2016-07-01T19:03:45 < Sync> he also appreciates the trols 2016-07-01T19:03:45 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-01T19:03:48 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-46-10.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:04:05 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T19:04:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:04:11 < aandrew> PaulFertser: not that I'm aware of 2016-07-01T19:05:08 < PaulFertser> Probably they just added a HW proxy to avoid damaging data on the the flash IC and brute-forced 10000 numeric pins manually. Shouldn't take too long actually. 2016-07-01T19:05:28 < aandrew> PaulFertser: yeah when you have physical access all bets are off 2016-07-01T19:05:49 < PaulFertser> aandrew: well, not quite. You know how full-disk encryption scheme is implemented in that product in question? 2016-07-01T19:06:06 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-246.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-01T19:06:38 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:06:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T19:06:51 < aandrew> PaulFertser: if you have physical access and are a nation-state are you telling me it's possible to just never be able to recover the data (barring destroyng it) 2016-07-01T19:07:30 < PaulFertser> aandrew: I assume extracting HW key from the SoC die was prohibitively expensive for them. 2016-07-01T19:07:39 < PaulFertser> In that specific case. 2016-07-01T19:08:08 < PaulFertser> https://blog.trailofbits.com/2016/02/17/apple-can-comply-with-the-fbi-court-order/ is a detailed enough summary 2016-07-01T19:08:22 -!- jaws [~helpme8@bb115-66-211-67.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T19:08:47 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T19:10:54 < karlp> what are you now referring to? was this still on this long rambling video linked by aandrew? 2016-07-01T19:11:51 < aandrew> that video I linked is a really bad one, his usual videos are much better. dude's clearly under an incredible amount of stress 2016-07-01T19:15:50 < karlp> I mean, the thread header is ,"somethign might happen, source: video" and the video starts off by rambling about having a hard life?! 2016-07-01T19:16:01 < karlp> window->closed 2016-07-01T19:16:43 < englishman> PaulFertser: that level of technical knowledge is well above what that dude has been blogging about 2016-07-01T19:16:56 < englishman> he mainly is a diagnose and replace technician 2016-07-01T19:17:15 < englishman> karlp: that pretty much describes all his videos 2016-07-01T19:17:23 < PaulFertser> Heh 2016-07-01T19:17:26 < aandrew> karlp: yes, the video is not awesome, but to be honest he says himself that if you're not a regualr watcher you should just close the window 2016-07-01T19:17:43 < karlp> so, thanks for linking to it dude ;) 2016-07-01T19:17:45 < aandrew> this particular video is made under some pretty apparent extreme stress 2016-07-01T19:17:56 < aandrew> englishman: hah, hardly 2016-07-01T19:18:13 < englishman> all the ones that dont involve macbook repair. 2016-07-01T19:19:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:19:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-01T19:19:42 < aandrew> englishman: I agree he tends to whine a bit before he moves on to the real meat of the video not about repair, but I consider that the free tax 2016-07-01T19:19:54 < aandrew> I haven't seen a video of his that wasn't worth watching, tbh 2016-07-01T19:21:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.139.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:32:53 < marble_visions> jpa-: dude sorry for the holdup, I can't create my testcase at the moment 2016-07-01T19:33:01 < marble_visions> i'll ask again on monday... 2016-07-01T19:33:28 < marble_visions> when i've got the issue distilled 2016-07-01T19:34:18 -!- tecdroid_ [~icke@37.120.26.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T19:38:55 -!- tecdroid_ is now known as tecdroid 2016-07-01T19:46:49 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-01T19:56:28 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQAuIZ3_W1s&feature=player_detailpage#t=118 2016-07-01T19:59:25 < Laurenceb> https://voat.co/v/environment/comments/1082938?Repost=1 2016-07-01T19:59:28 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-07-01T20:22:26 -!- Ron___ [25c42b7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.196.43.127] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-07-01T20:27:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-01T20:28:38 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T20:30:18 < karlp> oh boi: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/387183/73942101/ 2016-07-01T20:35:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:69e0:9d1a:65b0:c5eb] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T20:44:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-01T20:46:57 -!- merbzt [~benjamin@c-4e0be555.03-170-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T20:48:29 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T21:10:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T21:17:11 < Steffanx> lol 2016-07-01T21:19:12 < BrainDamage> the real challenge is how to make it fire a true response 2016-07-01T21:19:38 < BrainDamage> mmmm, shoot the chip with beta rays and hope for a bit flip? 2016-07-01T21:19:56 < BrainDamage> unless the compiler can optimize out the nonsense 2016-07-01T21:20:22 < PaulFertser> Power glitching might work 2016-07-01T21:22:12 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: actually, it returns true all the time I think 2016-07-01T21:23:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T21:24:28 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-01T21:25:58 < BrainDamage> oh sorry, my brain glanced over the not 2016-07-01T21:26:14 < BrainDamage> still, the question still applies for the false 2016-07-01T21:44:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T21:45:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T21:46:42 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:00:08 < Laurenceb> http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/477115146-residents-take-part-in-the-2015-brighton-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QWDkabfnB3qzOIqIDxpNCo4klur8mskBsdK%2FxwBcA0lN2q0aFf4W8DgPWEAxgv0fQg%3D%3D 2016-07-01T22:03:38 -!- marble_visions [~user@89.190.193.76] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-01T22:07:45 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-07-01T22:13:32 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-01T22:15:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T22:15:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:18:09 < Thorn> I assume this is not a proper lock-free ring buffer (because of is_empty)? http://paste.ofcode.org/dyZskUXRmpNbRnSU2nxTLt 2016-07-01T22:23:46 < BrainDamage> all assignment operations need to either lock or be atomic 2016-07-01T22:24:23 < BrainDamage> that includes head, value, and is_empty 2016-07-01T22:24:36 < BrainDamage> and tail too it seems 2016-07-01T22:25:14 < Thorn> I actually have relaxed requirements in mind: put() in only one one task, get() in an interrupt or vice versa 2016-07-01T22:26:55 < BrainDamage> you can still get the case where head=tail and they both want to access the same data bin 2016-07-01T22:27:43 < BrainDamage> sorry, add that a +1 2016-07-01T22:27:52 < BrainDamage> ( one wants to remove the first element, another wants to add a second ) 2016-07-01T22:31:43 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Util/buffer.c 2016-07-01T22:37:40 < Thorn> what's different about it? other that verbose code and losing old data on overflow 2016-07-01T22:39:11 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:39:51 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-01T22:39:59 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-07-01T22:41:52 -!- yan [~user@162.243.0.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T22:42:28 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T22:42:53 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-01T22:44:13 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:45:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T22:45:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:53:13 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:55:00 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T22:55:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T22:55:14 -!- yan [~user@162.243.0.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T23:07:10 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T23:08:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.139.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-01T23:11:33 < yan> anyone know if it's possible to get an instruction trace with stlink v2 and a STM32L1? 2016-07-01T23:24:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-01T23:27:29 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@94.198.136.243] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T23:30:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-01T23:31:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-01T23:35:27 < Thorn> instruction trace != data trace 2016-07-01T23:54:15 < Thorn> is this implementation actually lock-free like they claim? http://www.simplyembedded.org/tutorials/interrupt-free-ring-buffer/ --- Day changed Sat Jul 02 2016 2016-07-02T00:00:07 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@94.198.136.243] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-02T00:06:34 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMFRCanNaMENuenc/view?usp=sharing I think I keep my new internets 2016-07-02T00:07:15 < kakimir> more you go up in speed less the battery is consumed 2016-07-02T00:07:37 < kakimir> per unit of data 2016-07-02T00:10:07 < kakimir> my limited 3G consumed way more per let's say 1GB download 2016-07-02T00:10:11 < kakimir> than unlimited 3G 2016-07-02T00:10:23 < kakimir> because radio was kept active for longer period 2016-07-02T00:10:29 < kakimir> simple as that 2016-07-02T00:10:50 < kakimir> sooner you get to turn it off the better 2016-07-02T00:12:28 < kakimir> to meet average power maximum of these radios and also have good singal in the longest range possible the peak output power of these 4G radios must be dramatic 2016-07-02T00:12:30 < Thorn> but you still have to ldr and str head/tail when you ++ it, so it's not atomic on cortex 2016-07-02T00:12:35 < aandrew> Thorn: no that is not lock free, I have implemented that exact kind of ring buffer and it works very well, but I've had to add locking 2016-07-02T00:12:57 < aandrew> could have been my implementation, becuase IIRC my locking was around locking the fifo_write() so I could write an entire string into the buffer 2016-07-02T00:13:34 < kakimir> because havin like 0.5W peak transmitting power on 1600mhz or whatever wont really go far 2016-07-02T00:15:03 < Thorn> to complicate things, there're 2 kinds of locking in a rtos (mutexes and disabling interrupts) 2016-07-02T00:15:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T00:15:51 < aandrew> ohsix: yes, exactly 2016-07-02T00:16:04 < aandrew> and there are some gotchas with locking on ARM as well (let me try to find the article) 2016-07-02T00:16:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:17:06 < aandrew> https://mcuoneclipse.com/2014/01/26/entercritical-and-exitcritical-why-things-are-failing-badly/ 2016-07-02T00:17:17 < aandrew> that's where I lifted my critical section code from 2016-07-02T00:18:41 < aandrew> specifically search for "Atomic or not" 2016-07-02T00:22:29 < aandrew> yeah 2016-07-02T00:22:35 < aandrew> I stopped being cutesy with my FIFO code 2016-07-02T00:23:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-02T00:25:00 < aandrew> http://pastebin.com/N2SZ5WCc 2016-07-02T00:25:02 < aandrew> that kind of thing 2016-07-02T00:25:15 < Thorn> are C11 OR C++14 STANDARD ATOMICS supported on gcc-arm-embedded? 2016-07-02T00:25:47 < aandrew> wow that's gonna take a while to parse 2016-07-02T00:28:58 < aandrew> The 1750's built-in watchdog timer hardware was not used, over the objections of the lead software designer. 2016-07-02T00:29:06 < aandrew> who the fuck trusts a software engineer? 2016-07-02T00:30:40 < aandrew> http://www.ganssle.com/watchdogs.htm 2016-07-02T00:30:50 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-02T00:33:59 < aandrew> *nods* I've used something similar on Zynq 2016-07-02T00:34:20 < aandrew> you didn't get to interrupt the watchdog but you could stop it early enough that you coudl examine memory before the DDR controllers got reset 2016-07-02T00:35:54 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKNThfcGk5UGNMYTQ/view?usp=sharing getting ready for sand blasting hose 2016-07-02T00:39:37 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@ppp121-44-111-52.bras1.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-02T00:43:08 < Thorn> kakimir do you have a hydraulic press 2016-07-02T00:43:22 < kakimir> Thorn: not yet 2016-07-02T00:43:34 < kakimir> neighbor has 200tonne 2016-07-02T00:43:58 < kakimir> it's adequate 2016-07-02T00:45:36 < kakimir> I think 200tonne sounds a bit like exaggeration 2016-07-02T00:45:50 < kakimir> compared to size of actual thing 2016-07-02T00:45:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T00:46:10 < kakimir> it's a take off weight of mid sized airliner 2016-07-02T00:46:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:46:41 < kakimir> you also need frame that can hold it 2016-07-02T00:46:57 < kakimir> hoses are standard too so maximum pressure there is 2016-07-02T00:47:20 < kakimir> unless special hose for special price but I doubt 2016-07-02T00:49:23 < kakimir> maybe there could be solid steel piping 2016-07-02T00:50:57 -!- _Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:51:18 < kakimir> with 200bar pressure(that is typical pressure level in hydraulics) it requires piston area of 1000square centi meters 2016-07-02T00:51:47 < kakimir> propably higher pressure like 300bar to 400bar is used 2016-07-02T00:51:52 < kakimir> maximum 2016-07-02T00:52:38 < kakimir> 0.1square meter 2016-07-02T00:53:04 -!- Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 2016-07-02T00:53:05 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-02T00:53:06 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-02T00:53:13 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:53:13 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:56:45 -!- mattbrej1a [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:57:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-02T00:57:29 -!- mattbrejza [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-02T00:57:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T00:58:42 < kakimir> 0.1square meters is 35.7centimeter diameter piston 2016-07-02T01:03:53 < kakimir> that's rad 2016-07-02T01:15:55 < aandrew> make magazine is a pile of shit 2016-07-02T01:16:01 < aandrew> I miss Radio-Electronics 2016-07-02T01:16:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T01:16:42 < aandrew> which, make? 2016-07-02T01:16:52 < aandrew> yeah circuit cellar was always in a weird kind of place 2016-07-02T01:17:17 < aandrew> sure but it's all just arduino this or cheap hakc that, I really wanted to like it but the fact of the matter is that the makerscene is very hard to monetize 2016-07-02T01:17:22 < aandrew> especially as a cheerleader like a magazine 2016-07-02T01:17:31 < aandrew> never liked popular electronics much 2016-07-02T01:18:01 < aandrew> circuit cellar had some neat stuff but until arduino got popular it always degenerated into "simple problem, throw a fucking pic at it! look how cool I am!" 2016-07-02T01:18:19 < aandrew> the fact of the matter is that software development is difficult to put into a magazine 2016-07-02T01:18:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T01:18:51 < aandrew> and hardware development for hobbyiests can be wrapped up into a 50 page booklet, once. 2016-07-02T01:20:46 < aandrew> they are 2016-07-02T01:20:57 < aandrew> but the problem is that there is nothing new beyond minor changes 2016-07-02T01:21:30 < aandrew> you end up with oh wait another charlieplexing article. oh wait another servo article. oh wait antoher sonar article, oh wait, another garden watering article... 2016-07-02T01:22:15 < aandrew> there *are* interesting articles from time to time but they are absolutely BURIED in the same old tired crap 2016-07-02T01:22:38 < aandrew> the old RE stuff and whatnot had good stuff about analog design or trickier bits becuase early micros were tricky 2016-07-02T01:30:18 < aandrew> haha yes 2016-07-02T01:30:24 < aandrew> I'm not complaining about integration 2016-07-02T01:30:30 < aandrew> I don't pine for the days of the 8051 2016-07-02T01:30:46 < aandrew> I'm just saying I don't feel there is any value in rehashing the same fucking ideas over and over and over again every month 2016-07-02T01:31:05 < aandrew> yep 2016-07-02T01:31:22 < aandrew> dunno, like I said the internet, stackexchange in particular, has killed a lot of tech journalism 2016-07-02T01:34:07 < aandrew> ohsix: yep 2016-07-02T01:39:22 < forrestv> stupid forrest m mims 2016-07-02T01:43:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-02T01:46:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T01:47:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T01:48:01 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-02T01:48:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T01:53:45 < karlp> yan: sure, works just fine. 2016-07-02T01:57:12 < aandrew> forrestv: bite your tongue, that man was my childhood hero 2016-07-02T01:58:33 < karlp> what's stupid about him? 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2016-07-02T02:57:23 < dongs> xylitol is toxic to dogs and birds 2016-07-02T03:01:32 < Laurenceb__> https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.golem.de/news/em-drive-der-warp-antrieb-muss-noch-warten-1606-121641.html 2016-07-02T03:01:34 < Laurenceb__> golem 2016-07-02T03:01:48 < dongs> der warp 2016-07-02T03:02:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T03:02:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T03:03:25 < Laurenceb__> derp warp 2016-07-02T03:03:42 < Laurenceb__> top kek https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/4qh1nm/em_drive_safe_spaces/?st=iq4eodhu&sh=38dabea2 2016-07-02T03:12:23 < Laurenceb__> freaking finally http://vixra.org/pdf/1603.0153v1.pdf 2016-07-02T03:13:51 < Laurenceb__> he finally published 2016-07-02T03:13:57 < Laurenceb__> after years of shitposting 2016-07-02T03:29:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-02T03:30:04 < dongs> lol xbee 2016-07-02T03:32:43 < dongs> nice, another cube success story 2016-07-02T03:33:12 < dongs> 30 minutes to write firmware for a board with some leds, sd card, some sensors and couple fets to turn on/off fans 2016-07-02T03:35:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:69e0:9d1a:65b0:c5eb] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-02T03:48:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T03:55:18 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T04:03:20 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T04:06:16 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-02T04:07:18 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2016-07-02T04:08:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T04:14:08 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-02T04:22:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T04:24:35 < dongs> emeb_mac: so you can do small-sized emwin drawable and then draw into it a few times and blit it on screen? 2016-07-02T04:24:55 < emeb_mac> dongs: yes 2016-07-02T04:24:59 < emeb_mac> speeds things way up 2016-07-02T04:25:20 < emeb_mac> plus you can put that window anywhere on the display you want at the moment you copy it 2016-07-02T04:25:21 < dongs> so you can do both, draw outer frame/etc directly and then do fast updates in small drawwables? 2016-07-02T04:25:24 < dongs> right 2016-07-02T04:25:35 < emeb_mac> yes 2016-07-02T04:25:38 < dongs> nice 2016-07-02T04:26:06 < emeb_mac> there's a function that sets the output device 2016-07-02T04:26:21 < emeb_mac> if you give it a 0 then it sends to the display 2016-07-02T04:26:35 < emeb_mac> if you give it a created memdev then it goes to on-chip ram 2016-07-02T04:26:57 < dongs> cool 2016-07-02T04:31:18 < emeb_mac> in order to use a large memdev I tried to make the available memory for STemWin > 48kB and weird things started happening on the screen. Had to dial it back to ~100x160 pixels or so. 2016-07-02T04:31:49 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T04:31:54 < emeb_mac> probably something stupid related to the different memory regions on the F7 2016-07-02T04:32:01 < dongs> mhm 2016-07-02T04:48:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T04:51:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T04:57:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T05:05:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T05:09:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-07-02T05:10:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T05:31:26 < dongs> upgrdman: google play doesnt work in china huh 2016-07-02T05:32:08 < upgrdman> correct but i have vpn working on my phone, so i can 2016-07-02T05:32:18 < dongs> i have that goldenfrog shit 2016-07-02T05:32:20 < dongs> i wonder if itll work 2016-07-02T05:33:40 < dongs> The second part is a comparative review of ExpressVPN, VyprVPN and PureVPN, which are in our opinion the three top VPN services for China 2016-07-02T05:33:43 < dongs> cool 2016-07-02T05:33:48 < dongs> thats what i got 2016-07-02T05:34:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T05:34:44 < upgrdman> i do openvpn+stunnel 2016-07-02T05:34:48 < upgrdman> run my own vpn server 2016-07-02T05:34:51 < upgrdman> and it works 2016-07-02T05:35:04 < dongs> k 2016-07-02T05:35:06 < upgrdman> but still, the international net links in china are crippled 2016-07-02T05:35:08 < dongs> im to lazy for that 2016-07-02T05:35:36 < upgrdman> i've eard expressvpn is popular but never looked into it 2016-07-02T05:36:04 < dongs> well im already paying for vypr so will just use that 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2016-07-02T10:28:13 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yabggzznpdcjkcdv] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T10:34:02 < dongs> yes 2016-07-02T10:34:04 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T10:34:10 < dongs> https://www.pulse-eight.com/generated-assets/products/0000377.jpeg do you think this is AVR 2016-07-02T10:34:31 < dongs> https://www.pulse-eight.com/generated-assets/products/0000376.jpeg 2016-07-02T10:34:32 < dongs> ah yes. 2016-07-02T10:34:49 < dongs> this connects to USB, lol. 2016-07-02T10:36:05 < Steffanx> such mouse bites. 2016-07-02T10:36:28 < dongs> oh at least its AT90USB 2016-07-02T10:36:32 < dongs> not like mega8 bitbanging USB1.1 2016-07-02T10:36:35 < Steffanx> what is it supposed to be? 2016-07-02T10:36:51 < dongs> adds CEC support to NUCs or somethign 2016-07-02T10:36:59 < dongs> i guess you solder in CEC pin from HDMI and it makes a USB input device 2016-07-02T10:37:10 < dongs> cuz intel hates CEC or something 2016-07-02T10:37:55 < Steffanx> good, mr ohsix 2016-07-02T10:43:49 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T10:46:41 < dongs> mm 2016-07-02T10:46:45 < dongs> dolphin5.0 is out 2016-07-02T10:54:04 < ReadError> ohsix lol battlebots, lipo fire in the first fight 2016-07-02T10:55:59 < ReadError> I guess mythbuster's Grant is all high and mighty with his mouser gig 2016-07-02T10:56:07 < ReadError> too bishmade to fight with the big dogs 2016-07-02T10:56:53 < ReadError> not seen the pink slime 2016-07-02T10:56:57 < ReadError> commercial 2016-07-02T10:57:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-02T10:58:09 < anton02> dongs, cemu 2016-07-02T10:58:22 < ReadError> oh ya 2016-07-02T10:58:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-02T11:00:03 < anton02> Wii U emulator 2016-07-02T11:01:49 < dongs> fuck yeah it works 2016-07-02T11:03:18 < anton02> there was a release a couple of weeks ago that i think suddenly made a lot of shit playable 2016-07-02T11:13:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T11:18:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-02T11:19:50 < Fleck> Rickta59: how did they made so low price? 2016-07-02T11:21:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-02T11:24:49 < Fleck> http://www.newark.com/stmicroelectronics/nucleo-l476rg/dev-brd-stm32l476rg-arduino-mbed/dp/55Y3536 2016-07-02T11:34:33 < Fleck> looking at farnell, similar board costs 10€ + 5€ shipping ;D 2016-07-02T11:35:21 < Fleck> newark was free shipping 2016-07-02T11:36:52 -!- a_morale [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T11:39:13 < dongs> nice deal 2016-07-02T11:39:18 < dongs> even ohsix can afford that 2016-07-02T11:39:24 < dongs> just wont be able to do anythign with it 2016-07-02T11:47:32 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-02T11:47:38 < Steffanx> time to stop your personal vendetta dongs? 2016-07-02T11:47:55 < Steffanx> Ignore him and dont mention him or get over it.. 2016-07-02T11:49:58 < dongs> only when he leaves or gets +q 2016-07-02T11:56:15 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-02T11:56:20 < dongs> https://streamable.com/5bpa typical anime expo 2016-07-02T11:59:50 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T12:00:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T12:01:01 < knielsen> ohsix: you can use the restrict keyword to tell that some pointer doesn't alias anything 2016-07-02T12:03:01 < knielsen> I guess a lot of stuff would break if gcc would extend strict aliasing to also assume that char * doesn't alias _any_ other type... 2016-07-02T12:03:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] 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doesn't matter because you can never dereference them... 2016-07-02T12:59:08 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T12:59:51 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@212.111.40.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T13:00:14 -!- neuro_sys is now known as Guest10062 2016-07-02T13:00:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T13:03:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-02T13:18:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T13:23:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-02T14:01:03 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T14:12:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T14:13:00 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-02T14:13:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-02T14:16:46 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/4o2pv 2016-07-02T14:16:49 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7N254MTA4Q' 2016-07-02T14:16:51 < ReadError> er 2016-07-02T14:16:53 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7N254MTA4Q 2016-07-02T14:17:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-02T14:25:33 -!- Guest10062 is now known as neuro_sys 2016-07-02T14:25:43 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@212.111.40.93] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-02T14:25:43 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T14:26:15 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-02T14:26:23 -!- neuro_sys [~neurosys@212.111.40.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T14:26:47 -!- neuro_sys is now known as Guest17484 2016-07-02T14:27:52 -!- Guest17484 is now known as neuro_sys 2016-07-02T14:27:53 -!- 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It is persistently clear that there is an issue they have with the content, but I don't know what it is yet. That in and of itself is bothersome and unnerving, but whatayagannado" 2016-07-02T14:37:56 < jadew> so what happened? 2016-07-02T14:38:02 < dongs> he talks too much shit 2016-07-02T14:38:18 < dongs> less shittalking, more action 2016-07-02T14:38:25 < Steffanx> Yes boss. 2016-07-02T14:39:38 < ReadError> jadew he makes vids about repairing apple shit 2016-07-02T14:39:51 < jadew> yeah, I think I saw one before 2016-07-02T14:39:52 < ReadError> apple lawyers hit him up yesterday, he thought it was bad 2016-07-02T14:40:25 < jadew> there's no way they can prevent him from doing that 2016-07-02T14:40:34 < ReadError> well he has schematics 2016-07-02T14:40:37 < ReadError> and shit.. 2016-07-02T14:40:44 < jadew> ah hehe 2016-07-02T14:41:03 < dongs> errrr 2016-07-02T14:41:06 < dongs> so does half the internet 2016-07-02T14:41:28 < jadew> I'm at minute 2 and he still didn't get to the point 2016-07-02T14:44:36 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-02T14:53:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-02T14:56:38 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-02T15:03:40 < jadew> I'm at a loss here, made something using some GNU tools that are not very OOP friendly and after investing about a week in it, I am faced with two options: 2016-07-02T15:03:54 < jadew> start over, or go ahead and accept some memory leaks :/ 2016-07-02T15:04:29 < jadew> start over with different tools 2016-07-02T15:05:03 < jpa-> what gnu tools? 2016-07-02T15:05:07 < jadew> jpa-, bison 2016-07-02T15:05:31 < jpa-> maybe you can give it custom allocator and then just release the whole arena when you are done? 2016-07-02T15:05:34 < dongs> just switch to yacc? 2016-07-02T15:05:45 < dongs> OPENSORES< THE CHOICE 2016-07-02T15:05:52 < jadew> jpa-, that's what I did initially, but it was turning into a turd 2016-07-02T15:06:17 < jadew> made it with just passing objects and handling them properly but they stop being passed to the things that handle them properly in case of a syntax error 2016-07-02T15:06:31 < jadew> tried passing shared_ptrs instead, won't freaking work 2016-07-02T15:07:31 < jadew> dongs, can't see yacc being much better, I think a parser generator that's specifically made for c++ would be the best choice 2016-07-02T15:07:55 < jadew> anyway, I think I'll just go with the leaks for now, cuz if I have to start over I'll just give up on it 2016-07-02T15:08:09 < jadew> and rewrite this part when I feel like it 2016-07-02T15:11:46 < jadew> as of version 3.0 bison has something called variant for the value type 2016-07-02T15:12:10 < jadew> and that should have allowed shared_ptrs, but as far as I can tell it only accepts const values 2016-07-02T15:12:25 < dongs> what did you write anyway 2016-07-02T15:12:27 < dongs> parser for? 2016-07-02T15:12:48 < jadew> remember I said I wrote a MVC framework in PHP? 2016-07-02T15:12:57 < jadew> I decided I want to make the documentation easier to write 2016-07-02T15:13:15 < jadew> so I'm writing something that will help me do that 2016-07-02T15:13:33 < Lux> a parser to generate documentation ? 2016-07-02T15:13:49 < jadew> yeah, sort of 2016-07-02T15:14:01 < jadew> it's a bit more complex, but better than what's currently available 2016-07-02T15:14:17 < jadew> (writing your documentation inside the source file) 2016-07-02T15:14:23 < jadew> that's just stupid 2016-07-02T15:14:24 < Lux> so a better doxygen ? 2016-07-02T15:14:29 < jadew> sort of, yeah 2016-07-02T15:14:53 < jadew> already has a name and a domain name :) 2016-07-02T15:15:12 < Lux> nice 2016-07-02T15:15:18 < jadew> I have a feeling it's going to be a nice tool 2016-07-02T15:15:38 < Lux> what i'd like in most projects is just a brief summary what happens in the file you are looking at 2016-07-02T15:15:44 < jadew> if I ever finish it that is, but at the rate things are going... I'm not so sure anymore 2016-07-02T15:15:46 < Lux> somehow noone does that 2016-07-02T15:16:22 < jadew> well, that depends on how you document your stuff, personally, I don't like long documentation entries above each function 2016-07-02T15:16:39 < jadew> only because that piece of text has to make it in the autogenerated help files 2016-07-02T15:16:47 < jadew> that's what I'm trying to improve 2016-07-02T15:17:09 < jadew> btw, the name is lolcat :D 2016-07-02T15:17:26 < Lux> nice 2016-07-02T15:18:04 < jadew> yeah, seems appropriate 2016-07-02T15:18:50 < jadew> anyway, I want to be able to compile some freaking documentation this weekend otherwise I'm gonna toss it 2016-07-02T15:19:46 < jadew> biggest problem is that you actually have to parse the language in question in order to get it working 2016-07-02T15:19:52 < jadew> there are no shortcuts 2016-07-02T15:21:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T15:21:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-02T15:23:37 < Lux> can't you find a bnf for the language to use to copy/paste into yacc ? 2016-07-02T15:24:13 < jadew> probably, but I also want it to be as slim as possible 2016-07-02T15:24:16 < Lux> once you have that it shouldn't be too hard 2016-07-02T15:24:41 < jadew> I already got the parser going 2016-07-02T15:25:02 < jadew> it's just that it leask on syntax error 2016-07-02T15:25:15 < jadew> and there doesn't seem to be a simple or clean fix to it 2016-07-02T15:25:52 < jadew> anyway, I'll go with it as it is and come back to this part once it's ready 2016-07-02T15:26:15 < Lux> so just run the code before and fix the error ? 2016-07-02T15:26:28 < jadew> what do you mean? 2016-07-02T15:26:36 < Lux> ideally you shouldn't have any syntax errors anyway in a working program 2016-07-02T15:26:49 < jadew> yeah, but that's not an excuse :) 2016-07-02T15:27:47 < Lux> okay :) 2016-07-02T15:28:21 < Lux> i thought yacc stops with yyerror when it detects a syntax fail 2016-07-02T15:28:30 < Lux> or at least it calls the function 2016-07-02T15:29:13 < jadew> Lux, yeah, the problem is that you can only pass pointers POD as the result of the rules 2016-07-02T15:29:14 < Lux> in the compiler course i did this semester we used the first and follow sets of the grammar to continue parsing from errors 2016-07-02T15:29:19 < jadew> so for complex stuff, pointers 2016-07-02T15:29:48 < jadew> so you end up creating objects in one rule that get owned in a different rule (and hence properly handled) 2016-07-02T15:30:01 < jadew> but if a syntax error happens before they get to that other rule, the object remains hanging 2016-07-02T15:30:12 < jadew> a solution is to keep track of them in the parser context 2016-07-02T15:30:28 < jadew> but that's ugly and I was just looking for a cleaner solution 2016-07-02T15:31:14 < Lux> makes sense 2016-07-02T15:31:24 < Lux> dunno how you handle that properly 2016-07-02T15:33:28 < jadew> well, initially I started allocating them in the parser context and had smart pointers hold them, in lists and was only passing the C pointer between the rules and to other objects 2016-07-02T15:33:54 < jadew> and that works 2016-07-02T15:34:01 < jadew> but it's a turd 2016-07-02T15:38:54 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-02T15:38:54 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T15:39:10 < Steffanx> yet another php framework jadew? -_- 2016-07-02T15:39:22 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah the best :P 2016-07-02T15:39:44 < Steffanx> So soon we can get jadew php mvc certified? 2016-07-02T15:39:57 < jadew> haha 2016-07-02T15:40:38 < Steffanx> didnt you dislike/hate php? 2016-07-02T15:40:44 < jadew> I do 2016-07-02T15:41:18 < jadew> but I had to pick a framework for a project at work, picked one, regreted it and decided to write one that isn't stupid 2016-07-02T15:42:28 < jadew> most of them seem to do a lot of things wrong 2016-07-02T15:42:53 < jadew> some of those things because they think that's how proper programming should look like 2016-07-02T15:43:26 < jadew> there's one, laravel (arguably the most famous), uses a bunch of programming patterns FOR EVERYTHING 2016-07-02T15:44:28 < jadew> it's one of the slowest frameworks out there 2016-07-02T15:45:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T15:45:44 < jadew> saw a video about it where the guy presenting it was saying how he likes the level of detail, because every comment line is one word shorter than the line above... 2016-07-02T15:45:51 < jadew> that's not attention to detail 2016-07-02T15:45:59 < jadew> that's some serious OCD 2016-07-02T15:46:06 < jadew> probably why the whole framework sucks so bad 2016-07-02T15:47:18 < jadew> can you immagine what it's like to do that? 2016-07-02T15:47:42 < PaulFertser> Why do people still create new projects in php? 2016-07-02T15:48:01 < jadew> PaulFertser, sadly it's wildly available 2016-07-02T15:48:21 < PaulFertser> On shared hostings, yes, but that's not really relevant anymore, is it? 2016-07-02T15:49:04 < jadew> it's also easier to find PHP developers 2016-07-02T15:49:12 < jadew> (and cheaper) 2016-07-02T15:50:08 < PaulFertser> Well, yes, but those cheaper developers mostly suck and write shitty code and do not understand anything. 2016-07-02T15:50:37 < PaulFertser> And once they start to understand they either switch to another language or become expensive. 2016-07-02T15:50:41 < jadew> yeah, but how many companies do you think are willing to pay for anything more? 2016-07-02T15:51:35 < PaulFertser> Not sure if it's really cheaper in the end... 2016-07-02T15:52:03 < jadew> true 2016-07-02T15:53:03 < jadew> but even if they got good developers, there's no reason they wouldn't have them write PHP 2016-07-02T15:53:33 < jadew> that way, they could hire cheaper developers and have them use what the good ones wrote :) 2016-07-02T15:53:56 < PaulFertser> I assumed that PHP makes good developers less productive and provides no real benefit anyway. Cheap developers won't be able to properly understand what the good devs wrote. 2016-07-02T15:54:27 < jadew> yeah, tbh, I have no idea why it's so popular 2016-07-02T15:55:47 < Steffanx> Except for some quirks php didn't become a bit mature the last few versions afaik. 2016-07-02T15:55:50 < Steffanx> -did 2016-07-02T15:55:58 < Steffanx> i mean: *did 2016-07-02T15:56:05 < jadew> yeah, took them long enough 2016-07-02T15:56:51 < jadew> and most stuff are still poorly implemented 2016-07-02T15:57:05 < jadew> for example, you have namespaces, but you can't have variables in those namespaces 2016-07-02T15:57:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T15:57:22 < jadew> if you want to have a static variable inside a namespace you have to make a class and have a static property there 2016-07-02T15:57:51 < Steffanx> one can argue that is a good thing anyway. C# can't do that either for example. 2016-07-02T15:57:53 < Steffanx> afaik. 2016-07-02T15:59:00 < jadew> I really don't see why not 2016-07-02T15:59:11 < jadew> if you allow global variables, namespaced variables should also be possible 2016-07-02T16:00:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T16:00:36 < dongs> < PaulFertser> I assumed that PHP makes good developers less productive and provides no real benefit anyway. Cheap developers won't be able to properly understand what the good devs wrote. 2016-07-02T16:00:40 < dongs> lol 2016-07-02T16:00:43 < dongs> this 2016-07-02T16:00:45 < dongs> 100% 2016-07-02T16:00:58 < dongs> honestly im surprised whyt hte fuck jadew is even wasting time 2016-07-02T16:01:00 < dongs> writing shit 2016-07-02T16:01:00 < jadew> I agree with that too 2016-07-02T16:01:03 < dongs> AND documenting it 2016-07-02T16:01:05 < dongs> for PHP 2016-07-02T16:01:06 < dongs> i mean... 2016-07-02T16:01:12 < dongs> your target audience is gonna be like 2016-07-02T16:01:13 < dongs> you 2016-07-02T16:01:14 < dongs> and 2 other people 2016-07-02T16:01:37 < jadew> well, then I'd better offer them a good programming experience :) 2016-07-02T16:01:52 < Steffanx> I guess it's better to let dongs live in is own world. 2016-07-02T16:02:43 < Steffanx> "good programming experience".. such subjective. 2016-07-02T16:03:04 < jadew> well, shitty documentation usually adds up to a lot of frustration 2016-07-02T16:03:13 < dongs> code should be self-documenting 2016-07-02T16:03:29 < jpa-> stdperiphlib certainly is 2016-07-02T16:03:30 < dongs> if i have to look at documentation to know how to xyz , i probably wont be using it 2016-07-02T16:04:05 < jadew> dongs, I agree to a degree 2016-07-02T16:04:05 < dongs> say all you want about stdperiphlib 2016-07-02T16:04:08 < dongs> but it works 2016-07-02T16:04:10 < dongs> AND 2016-07-02T16:04:13 < dongs> i can view source 2016-07-02T16:04:16 < dongs> and know what it does 2016-07-02T16:04:40 < jadew> but personally, I don't like going through someone elses source code to figure out the exact specifics 2016-07-02T16:04:45 < jpa-> true, that's already a lot 2016-07-02T16:04:47 < Steffanx> after you worked out the 3000 if else statements and temporally variables, yes you can dongs :P 2016-07-02T16:04:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-02T16:05:25 -!- Warm_T [tjkapane@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-meyoldjmbjospwle] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T16:05:32 < jadew> also, the intended usage is not always apparent from reading the code 2016-07-02T16:06:40 < jadew> for example, you could look at an object and figure out what it does, but until you read the documentation you won't discover WHY it's capable of doing those things 2016-07-02T16:06:43 < Steffanx> also, the ref manual is the documentation, kind of. Or do you do everyhing example copy-pasting? 2016-07-02T16:06:56 < Steffanx> *by example copy-pasting 2016-07-02T16:09:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.143] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T16:11:52 < dongs> Steffanx: copypaste example, adjust to my own use generally. or copypaste code ive written before etc. 2016-07-02T16:11:57 < dongs> i mean 2016-07-02T16:12:01 < dongs> i hate typing so 2016-07-02T16:12:14 < dongs> the most i can copypaste thats hardware depenedent the better 2016-07-02T16:12:22 < dongs> logic i will write of course et 2016-07-02T16:12:24 < dongs> etc 2016-07-02T16:16:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T16:18:46 < Laurenceb__> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/01/twitch_social_eating/ 2016-07-02T16:19:22 < jadew> wtf is this thing with millenials and boomers and crap 2016-07-02T16:19:35 < jadew> it seems those terms are being heavily pushed recently 2016-07-02T16:22:07 < jadew> it seems like someone is trying to attach "traits" to each of these groups so they can hate eachother for them 2016-07-02T16:22:49 < Laurenceb__> its called trolling 2016-07-02T16:23:43 < dongs> god damn 2016-07-02T16:23:45 < dongs> the fucking blogosphere 2016-07-02T16:24:03 < jadew> it's not trolling when they assign blame and they put the entire generation in the corner 2016-07-02T16:24:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-02T16:24:35 < jadew> I saw something recently where boomers where blamed for the state of the economy today, like they all had a say in it 2016-07-02T16:25:28 < jadew> my generation is probably going to be seen as the idiots on facebook 2016-07-02T16:32:30 < dongs> i dont even have facebook 2016-07-02T16:32:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.157] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T16:33:06 < jadew> I have two accounts 2016-07-02T16:33:13 < jadew> one I don't use and one for work 2016-07-02T16:34:20 < Steffanx> only a fake facebook account here. 2016-07-02T16:34:38 < jadew> I don't know how other facebook accounts look like, but the one that's for friends and family is always full of garbage or depressing stuff 2016-07-02T16:34:43 < jadew> or game of thrones spoilers 2016-07-02T16:35:09 < Steffanx> time to unfriend. 2016-07-02T16:35:30 < dongs> < jadew> garbage of thrones spoilers 2016-07-02T16:35:32 < dongs> ftfy 2016-07-02T16:36:02 < Steffanx> oidw. 2016-07-02T16:36:04 < dongs> for real what do you see in taht show 2016-07-02T16:36:07 < dongs> like 2016-07-02T16:36:08 < jadew> can't, I only have close relatives there and I need to stay in good relationships with them 2016-07-02T16:36:11 < dongs> what is the fucking point 2016-07-02T16:36:41 < Steffanx> dicks, boobs and pussy.. 2016-07-02T16:37:03 < jadew> yeah... 2016-07-02T16:37:07 < jadew> and it's unpredictable 2016-07-02T16:37:12 < dongs> i skip through all that in movies 2016-07-02T16:37:13 < jadew> it's not like other shows 2016-07-02T16:37:16 < Steffanx> oh and the occasional beheading/headless people on a horse. 2016-07-02T16:37:25 < dongs> bcause 99% of the time its not needed for plot 2016-07-02T16:37:47 < Steffanx> in GoT it is most of the time. 2016-07-02T16:37:49 < jadew> the thing about game of thrones, is that you can never know if the good or the bad guy is going to win 2016-07-02T16:37:51 < jpa-> movies can has plots? 2016-07-02T16:37:52 < jadew> which is refreshing 2016-07-02T16:39:00 < jadew> + they seem to set shit up seasons in advance 2016-07-02T16:39:42 < Steffanx> The type of movie you and tectu watch together don't have plots jpa- 2016-07-02T16:40:23 < jadew> dongs, did you try to watch it or you just don't like the idea? 2016-07-02T16:40:45 < dongs> medieval shit is fucking boring 2016-07-02T16:40:48 < Steffanx> His opinion is probably based on Southpark episodes about GoT. 2016-07-02T16:40:55 < dongs> i dont watch shit park sorry 2016-07-02T16:41:03 < jadew> dongs, give it a try, it won't dissapoint 2016-07-02T16:41:07 < jadew> it's a really good show 2016-07-02T16:41:10 < Steffanx> oh, im surprised. Neither do i :) 2016-07-02T16:41:17 < jadew> me neither 2016-07-02T16:42:35 < jpa-> netflix originals have lots of boobs atleast, not sure about plot 2016-07-02T16:43:03 < Steffanx> So tell me dongs: a name of a series you DO enjoy. 2016-07-02T16:43:07 < Steffanx> (and please no jappy shit) 2016-07-02T16:44:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T16:45:06 < jadew> R2COM, scouting for a good vacation destination? 2016-07-02T16:46:31 < jadew> not sure how accurate that map is 2016-07-02T16:46:50 < jadew> I've heard women say italians have big dicks 2016-07-02T16:48:08 < jpa-> Tectu: Steffanx told me movies can have plots 2016-07-02T16:49:01 < Steffanx> i told jpa- the movies he watches only have a climax at the end. 2016-07-02T16:50:16 < jadew> depends on the type 2016-07-02T16:50:31 < jadew> some have climax for the entire duration 2016-07-02T16:52:54 < aandrew> I don't know that it's apple 2016-07-02T16:52:59 < aandrew> (rossman drama) 2016-07-02T16:53:18 < dongs> lol who caresa bout rossman 2016-07-02T16:53:19 < dongs> maybe ohsix 2016-07-02T16:53:20 < aandrew> I mean ok schematics and boardview data is under NDA, but *he* did not break NDA and it is *not* illegal to hold material under NDA 2016-07-02T16:53:24 < dongs> since they're both autistic fucks 2016-07-02T16:53:39 < dongs> http://9to5mac.com/2016/07/01/tekserve-closure-louis-rossman-videos/#comment-2760764034 2016-07-02T16:53:42 < aandrew> my suspicion is that perhaps hte boardview application itself is a paid app and he pirated it maybe 2016-07-02T16:53:46 < dongs> this guy sums up rossman prety well 2016-07-02T16:53:55 < dongs> aandrew: boarview? 2016-07-02T16:54:23 < aandrew> basically some data format that apple uses so when you say "dafuq is R1315" it will show you on the board where it is 2016-07-02T16:54:48 < dongs> doesnt sound like anyone outside of apple should have that 2016-07-02T16:54:54 < dongs> why would he even have that 2016-07-02T16:55:36 < aandrew> so you can do board repairs on boards without silk 2016-07-02T16:55:51 < dongs> what garbage cad does apple use anyway 2016-07-02T16:55:55 < dongs> their s chematics look fuckign AWFUL 2016-07-02T16:55:56 < aandrew> you can look at a schematic and say "R141 is supsect" and then find it 2016-07-02T16:56:17 < aandrew> no idea, if I had to guess I'm thinking CadStar; the company I'm contracting at right now uses it and it looks like 1960s schematic tech 2016-07-02T16:56:37 < aandrew> they're doing medical devices so I suspect that cadstar has some kind of tie-in with traceability 2016-07-02T16:56:57 < dongs> cuckstar 2016-07-02T16:56:59 < dongs> cadstar as in 2016-07-02T16:57:00 < dongs> zucken shit 2016-07-02T16:57:01 < dongs> or something? 2016-07-02T16:57:03 < dongs> some jappu crap 2016-07-02T16:57:03 < aandrew> but like I said, it's not illegal to have a schematic or board data that you didn't pay for, he's got no contract to violate 2016-07-02T16:57:06 < aandrew> zuken yes 2016-07-02T16:57:12 < dongs> i think i tried that once 2016-07-02T16:57:16 < dongs> wiped that shit quickly 2016-07-02T16:57:23 < aandrew> yeah it's even worse than Eagle 2016-07-02T16:57:31 < dongs> flickering GDI drawing on modern computers = fuck off 2016-07-02T16:57:42 < aandrew> it's as complex as Cadence, with a UI worse than Eagle 2016-07-02T16:58:18 < aandrew> I like rossman and I enjoy his videos, I throw them up while I'm working 2016-07-02T16:58:19 < dongs> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jej3nc7QaEo/hqdefault.jpg 2016-07-02T16:58:20 < dongs> omg 2016-07-02T16:58:23 < dongs> i think urrite 2016-07-02T16:58:28 < dongs> that looks like crapple schecmatics 2016-07-02T16:58:33 < aandrew> he's a little whiny at times but most of his shit is actually solid 2016-07-02T16:58:39 < aandrew> and he really is quite good at diagnostics and repair 2016-07-02T16:59:53 < aandrew> so like I said, I suspect it is not apple shutting him down, but it might be. it can be argued that the snippets of schematics and boardview he's showing pictures of (not entire files) would fall under fair use but I dont' think anyone has the money to go toe to toe with apple to try to prove it in court 2016-07-02T17:00:13 < aandrew> and I suspect that apple would drop the case/settle before even a hint of precident would be set 2016-07-02T17:02:34 < jadew> can they do that? 2016-07-02T17:02:36 < dongs> doesnt make him any less of a faggot 2016-07-02T17:03:00 < jadew> say... ah, this doesn't seem to end in our favor, let's drop it, sorry to have wasted your time judge. 2016-07-02T17:03:11 < jadew> is that legal? 2016-07-02T17:03:46 < jadew> if that would happen in here the judge would probably fine the shit out of them 2016-07-02T17:04:04 < jadew> and still finish the trial 2016-07-02T17:05:26 < Thorn> I think layers in the US have the power to settle a case out of court if they reach an agreement 2016-07-02T17:05:34 < Thorn> *lawyers 2016-07-02T17:05:42 < jpa-> i think for civil cases you can drop it anywhere 2016-07-02T17:06:43 < jadew> yeah, but if you drop it at that point, when you're about to lose and set a precedent, then it looks like harassment 2016-07-02T17:06:51 < jadew> and you drop so you can keep doing it 2016-07-02T17:07:21 < jadew> it shouldn't be allowed 2016-07-02T17:07:42 < jpa-> i guess around here you don't get much pre-indication about what is going to be the outcome 2016-07-02T17:08:00 < aandrew> jadew: yep, happens all the fucking time 2016-07-02T17:08:47 < aandrew> big corps will use the court system to drain you financially and if it starts looking like it's going to go against them they'll drop the case to prevent a precident which will not allow them to use the same tactic on someone else another day 2016-07-02T17:09:02 < jadew> someone should start setting precedents then, you get a friend do that, then you sue him 2016-07-02T17:09:11 < aandrew> "it shouldn't be allowed" you must be new 2016-07-02T17:09:33 < aandrew> topic switch 2016-07-02T17:09:49 < aandrew> I'm not sure I understand how strict aliasing allows you to optimize better 2016-07-02T17:09:55 < aandrew> I should ask my compiler hacker friend 2016-07-02T17:10:20 < jpa-> by allowing you to keep stuff in registers 2016-07-02T17:10:36 < jpa-> otherwise whenever you write to *any* pointer, you'd have to reload *all* variables from RAM 2016-07-02T17:11:19 < jpa-> (with strict aliasing you only have to reload the variables of the same type) 2016-07-02T17:12:46 < aandrew> hm 2016-07-02T17:12:55 < aandrew> but is the compiler optimization that ... blocky? 2016-07-02T17:13:39 < jpa-> it is quite difficult to follow e.g. what variables a particular pointer might point to 2016-07-02T17:13:46 < aandrew> i.e. if I have a pointer variable that is pointing to a uint32 and another pointer variable that is pointing to a uint8 at the same location, wouldn't the compiler necessarily only reload the affected variables? 2016-07-02T17:13:56 < jpa-> for simple cases the compiler tries to do that 2016-07-02T17:14:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-02T17:14:15 < jpa-> but the point of using a pointer is usually that you don't know ahead of time what it will point to 2016-07-02T17:15:20 < aandrew> hm 2016-07-02T17:16:14 < Thorn> the compiler simply throws non-conforming code away. best optimzation ever 2016-07-02T17:16:40 < aandrew> right, I'd expect it to fail to compile rather than ignore code 2016-07-02T17:16:53 < Thorn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20922609/why-does-optimisation-kill-this-function?lq=1 2016-07-02T17:16:56 < aandrew> I mean it seems pretty clear that you are manipulating memory 2016-07-02T17:17:25 < Thorn> >worked fine in production code until they enabled a high optimization level. Then, the code would just do nothing. 2016-07-02T17:17:46 < aandrew> right, the fact that it's blowing the code away without so much as a warning seems... bad 2016-07-02T17:17:52 < aandrew> I mean throw a warning, do something 2016-07-02T17:17:56 < aandrew> but don't simply ignore it 2016-07-02T17:18:23 < Thorn> +1 2016-07-02T17:18:27 < jpa-> gcc often actually warns about strict aliasing 2016-07-02T17:18:44 < jpa-> but when it happens across functions, it is not trivial to do so 2016-07-02T17:18:52 < jpa-> most people still compile without -flto anyway 2016-07-02T17:19:55 < aandrew> actually that stackoverflow is MUCH clearer and uses the exact same example 2016-07-02T17:24:35 < Thorn> http://libre.adacore.com/tools/gnat-gpl-for-bare-board-arm/ lol 2016-07-02T17:29:10 < aandrew> lol ADA 2016-07-02T17:33:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T17:35:01 < Laurenceb__> you won't be lolling when your plane isnt falling out of the sky 2016-07-02T17:37:14 < aandrew> http://blog.qt.io/blog/2011/06/10/type-punning-and-strict-aliasing/ is decent explaining things too 2016-07-02T17:50:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T17:56:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-02T18:02:01 < aandrew> also leads to http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know.html whichis very good 2016-07-02T18:08:01 < Thorn> >C99 6.5 7: An object shall have its stored value accessed only by an lvalue expression that has one of the following types: ... — a character type. 2016-07-02T18:08:16 < Thorn> is uint8_t a character type? 2016-07-02T18:09:27 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-02T18:13:00 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T18:13:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T18:17:01 < jpa-> Thorn: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1307 "not necessarily" 2016-07-02T18:17:57 < aandrew> yes I believe so 2016-07-02T18:17:59 < aandrew> oh? 2016-07-02T18:18:16 < Thorn> I think it's actually "implementation defined" 2016-07-02T18:18:16 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T18:18:22 < jpa-> i guess the answer is "in practice, currently, yes" 2016-07-02T18:18:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T18:18:32 < Thorn> which adds another level of hell 2016-07-02T18:34:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.15] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T18:34:52 < englishman> ansi c is best c 2016-07-02T18:36:05 < Steffanx> c99 is better. 2016-07-02T18:37:31 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T18:37:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] 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englishman> is fake macbook repair drama still relevant lol 2016-07-02T19:15:06 < Thorn> he posted another video, even longer than the 1st one 2016-07-02T19:15:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-02T19:16:38 < Laurenceb__> Linux marketshare doubled since five years ago 2016-07-02T19:17:36 < BrainDamage> so 10 new users? 2016-07-02T19:17:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T19:17:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T19:19:00 < Laurenceb__> from 0.9% to 1.8% 2016-07-02T19:19:02 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-07-02T19:19:19 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T19:23:42 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-02T19:25:49 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 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< englishman> Thorn: dude sure knows how to get clicks 2016-07-02T19:43:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-02T19:49:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T19:49:48 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T19:59:45 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T19:59:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T20:05:24 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T20:05:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T20:10:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T20:10:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has 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I needed bitcoins for something, so i bought some.. 2016-07-02T23:45:47 < Steffanx> damn that shit is annoying. 2016-07-02T23:46:17 < kakimir> u homo 2016-07-02T23:46:34 < Steffanx> Now i understand where the hate for buttcoins dongs has comes from. 2016-07-02T23:46:46 < kakimir> you tried to buy drugs? 2016-07-02T23:46:47 < jadew> what's the issue with them? 2016-07-02T23:47:10 < jadew> how much does one bitcoin cost? 2016-07-02T23:47:14 < Steffanx> Nah, you first have to select you wallet tool, so i downloaded bitcoin core (qt) 2016-07-02T23:47:17 < kakimir> million 2016-07-02T23:47:20 < englishman> jadew: 1 btc 2016-07-02T23:47:21 < Steffanx> and did the transaction to my wallet 2016-07-02T23:47:39 < Steffanx> but that fucking thing needs to sync first, which is a 90gb download which can takes DAYS to download 2016-07-02T23:47:52 < englishman> i wanted to buy some hard to get illegal drugs but i needed buttcoin 2016-07-02T23:47:54 < kakimir> are you serious? 2016-07-02T23:48:03 < englishman> so i tried to buy some buttcoin without giving out my name, drivers license etc 2016-07-02T23:48:05 < kakimir> 90GB? 2016-07-02T23:48:15 < Steffanx> ok 70+GB 2016-07-02T23:48:17 < Steffanx> but still much 2016-07-02T23:48:26 < englishman> turns out the only way to do so is to meet a dude in an alley and exchange cash for a random string of letters and numbers 2016-07-02T23:48:28 < jadew> lol 2016-07-02T23:48:28 < kakimir> that is insane 2016-07-02T23:48:31 < englishman> then go home and make sure it works 2016-07-02T23:48:53 < englishman> might as well buy the drugs directly from the alley guy 2016-07-02T23:48:55 < englishman> and cut out the middleman 2016-07-02T23:48:56 < jadew> looks like the bitcon bubble has bursted 2016-07-02T23:49:02 < Steffanx> nah, it was nothing illegal much englishman. 2016-07-02T23:49:08 < englishman> yeah thats possible 2016-07-02T23:49:11 < englishman> but i wanted some illegal drugs 2016-07-02T23:49:14 < jadew> and the shape exchange rate graph looks very familiar 2016-07-02T23:49:24 < jadew> I think it's going to go down even more 2016-07-02T23:49:45 < kakimir> what kind of drug is illegal in nlands anyways? 2016-07-02T23:49:59 < Steffanx> anyway, for a random not-so-internet guy, buttcoins are waaay to complex. Hence: fail 2016-07-02T23:50:08 < Steffanx> hard drugs, kakimir 2016-07-02T23:50:20 < jadew> why does it have to sync 70 Gb of data? 2016-07-02T23:50:32 < Steffanx> the other keys or something 2016-07-02T23:50:33 < kakimir> scopolamine? 2016-07-02T23:51:10 < kakimir> whos drug death are you going to fake? I'm pretty sure you don't do any hard drugs 2016-07-02T23:51:26 < englishman> jadew: it has to download the entire blockchain or something 2016-07-02T23:51:34 < englishman> cuz its kind of like git 2016-07-02T23:51:47 < englishman> you dont ever have one commit with all the code 2016-07-02T23:52:07 < jadew> so it's going to keep growing? 2016-07-02T23:52:30 < englishman> yes 2016-07-02T23:52:31 < englishman> https://blockchain.info/charts/blocks-size 2016-07-02T23:52:41 < Steffanx> in the end i managed to move to another wallet using some private key export. many tools do not even do that 2016-07-02T23:52:41 < Steffanx> but damn.. whyy so complex 2016-07-02T23:52:58 < englishman> click on 'all time' 2016-07-02T23:53:15 < jadew> lol, it's an exponential curve 2016-07-02T23:53:21 < englishman> yes 2016-07-02T23:53:27 < jadew> it looked exponential in the short term too 2016-07-02T23:54:50 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: the other clients aren't as "secure" in terms of third party spoofing 2016-07-02T23:54:53 < BrainDamage> and yes, it's fail 2016-07-02T23:55:21 < Steffanx> yes, i had to download some old version of the client/wallet because the new one was secure and stuff 2016-07-02T23:55:39 < BrainDamage> as bitcoin transaction ledger grows, less and less will be willing or even able to use the "correct" way 2016-07-02T23:55:41 < jadew> ohsix, that's what I was talking about, labels 2016-07-02T23:56:07 < BrainDamage> and in the end, you end up with third party services managing your wallet and you doing operations remotely 2016-07-02T23:56:10 < BrainDamage> aka banks 2016-07-02T23:56:12 < englishman> banana for scale http://money.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization/ 2016-07-02T23:59:02 < jadew> man, bill gates is freaking rich 2016-07-02T23:59:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-02T23:59:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-02T23:59:28 < jadew> I wonder if he has any bitcoin --- Day changed Sun Jul 03 2016 2016-07-03T00:03:19 < kakimir> what is derivatives? 2016-07-03T00:03:29 < kakimir> some banking scam instrument? 2016-07-03T00:04:32 < jadew> could be estimated value of businesses? 2016-07-03T00:04:53 < BrainDamage> derivatives are essentially formalized and tradeable bets 2016-07-03T00:05:18 < BrainDamage> eg say you have a stock option, i can make a derivative that bets the price rises 2016-07-03T00:05:27 < BrainDamage> and you can do it iteratively on the derivatives themselves 2016-07-03T00:06:06 < jadew> what is a bet worth? 2016-07-03T00:06:17 < jadew> can you bet that the price drops? 2016-07-03T00:06:51 < BrainDamage> the bet is written on the derivative, the entity that emits them specifies the type of bet, and against what is linked 2016-07-03T00:06:55 < kakimir> is your money invested in those derivatives? 2016-07-03T00:07:00 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-03T00:07:02 < BrainDamage> you can price drops, price constant, etc 2016-07-03T00:07:09 < BrainDamage> whatever you want essentially 2016-07-03T00:07:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T00:07:23 < kakimir> general bet 2016-07-03T00:07:23 < jadew> BrainDamage, what happens if you lose the bet? 2016-07-03T00:07:31 < englishman> you can even bet on other people's bets 2016-07-03T00:07:42 < BrainDamage> you paid for toilet paper 2016-07-03T00:07:54 < jadew> interesting 2016-07-03T00:08:15 < jadew> and if you win? 2016-07-03T00:08:17 < englishman> hey wasnt this in a 2015 oscar winning movie starring ryan gosling and christian bale 2016-07-03T00:08:28 < jadew> do you get x2 the money you paid or something similar? 2016-07-03T00:08:33 < BrainDamage> depends on the title 2016-07-03T00:08:47 < BrainDamage> generally, the value of the title itself is linked to the state of the bet 2016-07-03T00:08:59 < BrainDamage> as in, it's not 1/0 2016-07-03T00:09:22 < BrainDamage> eg if you bet a title loses value, the more it does the more your derivative is going to inflate its price 2016-07-03T00:09:28 < BrainDamage> then you can resell at higher value 2016-07-03T00:09:50 < englishman> haha 2016-07-03T00:09:55 < englishman> yeah like life insurance 2016-07-03T00:10:02 < englishman> you are paying a company to bet that you will die 2016-07-03T00:10:06 < englishman> if you win, you get money 2016-07-03T00:10:22 < BrainDamage> the difference is that this is a title you can trade 2016-07-03T00:10:29 < englishman> yes you can sell your bet 2016-07-03T00:10:51 < jadew> interesting stuff 2016-07-03T00:11:06 < jadew> who is providing the bets? private companies? 2016-07-03T00:11:13 < BrainDamage> large banks generally 2016-07-03T00:11:24 < jadew> so it's really a game 2016-07-03T00:11:29 < BrainDamage> derivatives generally have large risks AND it's very hard to estimate the risks 2016-07-03T00:11:41 < englishman> jadew: the movie is the big short (2015) it puts a lot of stuff in laymans terms tho the movie is pretty cringey 2016-07-03T00:12:25 < jadew> thanks, I'll check it out 2016-07-03T00:14:07 < BrainDamage> what bothers me most of the markets is the ability to short sell 2016-07-03T00:14:37 < BrainDamage> you can buy good A, but not pay it, then resell it, and use the money got from the sell to pay the original seller 2016-07-03T00:14:54 < BrainDamage> this works only as long as the latter sells 2016-07-03T00:14:59 < BrainDamage> sorry, latters pays 2016-07-03T00:15:12 < BrainDamage> but if everyone does it ( and they do ) then you're walking on eggshells 2016-07-03T00:15:24 < jadew> ohsix, IP is not nothing 2016-07-03T00:15:37 < jadew> we produce IP 2016-07-03T00:15:53 < jadew> it requires actual labor 2016-07-03T00:16:47 < BrainDamage> it's ok to pay the labor, a bit less some near eternal exclusive on the concept 2016-07-03T00:17:08 < jadew> yeah, which is why patents expire after a while 2016-07-03T00:17:29 < BrainDamage> ip laws instead have been progressively extended on their coverage 2016-07-03T00:17:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-03T00:17:52 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-03T00:17:52 < BrainDamage> and at least in the usa, it was the direct result of walt disney lobbying for it 2016-07-03T00:17:59 < kakimir> at one instant dericatives can fuk up the money totally in blitz 2016-07-03T00:18:21 < jadew> watching the big short now 2016-07-03T00:18:28 < BrainDamage> so because of one large client, everyone has to suffer 2016-07-03T00:18:52 < BrainDamage> and ofc, thanks to usa's awesome foreign policies, they try to shove their dicks in everyone else's throat 2016-07-03T00:18:59 < BrainDamage> under the pretense of "trade agrenments" 2016-07-03T00:19:38 < kakimir> what is broad money? 2016-07-03T00:22:33 < jadew> ohsix, the free market they are advertising means that either 1) all products are shit or 2) a few major manufacturers steal all the ideas and kill their invetors' business 2016-07-03T00:23:04 < jadew> a "free" market based on stealing ideas is a shitty market to have 2016-07-03T00:23:15 < jadew> for both customers and manufacturers 2016-07-03T00:24:05 < jadew> there's no silverlining there, except that everyone can get cheap shit which doesn't work quite well 2016-07-03T00:27:38 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T00:27:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:d495:fe35:2e66:6c7d] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T00:29:26 < jadew> what if the market got flooded by 1:1 iPhone clones 2016-07-03T00:29:34 < jadew> would that be ok in your view? 2016-07-03T00:30:02 < BrainDamage> the problem is that the law is made to forbid 1:1 clones, but in reality it's used in reverse 2016-07-03T00:30:21 < BrainDamage> anything that's remotely similar is attempted to be destroyed 2016-07-03T00:30:43 < BrainDamage> but i have no solution for that 2016-07-03T00:31:13 < jadew> well, if it's similar because it's an actual copycat, I can see why 2016-07-03T00:31:21 < BrainDamage> no 2016-07-03T00:31:24 < BrainDamage> not copycats 2016-07-03T00:31:31 < BrainDamage> remember you can ip subsections 2016-07-03T00:32:03 < BrainDamage> i'm ok-ish forbidding iphone clones 2016-07-03T00:32:06 < jadew> it's probably a grey area, but I still believe that the idea behind IP is legit 2016-07-03T00:32:18 < jadew> I can also agree that it's sometimes abused 2016-07-03T00:32:22 < BrainDamage> but you cannot say that any chamfered edge phone is an iphone lookalike 2016-07-03T00:32:26 < jadew> but getting rid of it entirely is not the solution for those abuses 2016-07-03T00:32:33 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-03T00:32:33 < BrainDamage> not sometimes, very often 2016-07-03T00:33:00 < BrainDamage> it's actually an actve and important part of a brand policy 2016-07-03T00:34:02 < BrainDamage> and the additional load on this sick mechanism is that the trials are long and expensive 2016-07-03T00:34:26 < BrainDamage> and you can undermine a competitor just by the threat of the action 2016-07-03T00:34:53 < BrainDamage> which is used extensively in patent trolling 2016-07-03T01:19:08 -!- merbzt [~benjamin@c-4e0be555.03-170-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-03T01:20:15 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-149-62.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T01:20:46 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-46-10.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-03T01:37:13 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-03T01:37:57 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T01:49:31 -!- 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[~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:d495:fe35:2e66:6c7d] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-03T02:55:45 < jadew> Laurenceb, you could tell it's a dude from a mile away 2016-07-03T02:56:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-03T03:03:38 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LE-zIT0yOiU 2016-07-03T03:07:47 < jadew> Laurenceb__, except the immigrants aren't coming from the EU 2016-07-03T03:07:59 < jadew> they come from english colonies 2016-07-03T03:08:21 < jadew> and they've been going to the UK long before the immigration crisis started (which landed almost no immigrants in UK) 2016-07-03T03:09:01 < jadew> same shit happened in France 2016-07-03T03:09:35 < Laurenceb__> yeah but the Russian trolling is still funny 2016-07-03T03:09:46 < jadew> if you go to visit the Louvre you'll get asked to buy trinkets by 100 guys from Morocco 2016-07-03T03:10:22 < jadew> yeah, especially the way it sounds 2016-07-03T03:25:22 < Thorn> http://polit.reactor.cc/post/2693189 2016-07-03T03:39:58 -!- Kuroko|2 is now known as Kuroko 2016-07-03T03:45:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T03:50:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-03T03:54:38 < Laurenceb__> that appears to be a troll site 2016-07-03T04:08:20 < karlp> nice Steffanx, needed bitcoints for "something" 2016-07-03T04:08:56 < karlp> yeah, the sync blockchain idea is fucking insane 2016-07-03T04:13:51 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-03T04:15:01 < karlp> anyone got emeb's ice40+f303 image still? dropbox is hating me 2016-07-03T04:16:22 < Thorn> I got 404 2016-07-03T04:17:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T04:18:15 < karlp> Thorn: yeah, me too 2016-07-03T04:28:12 < Laurenceb__> interesting, F3 DAC seems faster than F1 DAC according to datasheets 2016-07-03T04:28:50 < Laurenceb__> speed spec is the same and almost all the other specs are unchanged, but for F1 it says *in 10 bit mode 2016-07-03T04:34:14 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-03T04:39:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T04:41:45 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb: 2016-07-03T04:42:08 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb__: never spotted that before. 2016-07-03T04:42:54 < Laurenceb__> I was thinking about the mechaduino project - if it was worth using F3 over F1 for the DAC 2016-07-03T04:43:12 < emeb_mac> the f3 parts are weird though - the F373 has great analog. the F303 isn't bad. The F302 parts are *horrible* 2016-07-03T04:43:20 < Laurenceb__> I see 2016-07-03T04:43:50 < emeb_mac> F302 ADC has crap linearity - 3.3V input yields ~ 4010 reading. 2016-07-03T04:43:55 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-07-03T04:44:13 < emeb_mac> even the F031 does better. 2016-07-03T04:44:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-03T04:44:56 < Laurenceb__> is this because they are untra fast adc? 2016-07-03T04:45:07 < emeb_mac> Don't think so. 2016-07-03T04:45:22 < emeb_mac> The F302 is kind of a stripped-down, cost-reduced part. 2016-07-03T04:45:33 < emeb_mac> I think they put the "B Team" on the analog design. 2016-07-03T04:45:51 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-07-03T04:45:55 < anton02> no keil for linux lol 2016-07-03T04:46:10 < Laurenceb__> yeah F4 took a few revisions to get the ADC noise down 2016-07-03T04:47:01 * Laurenceb__ is wondering if it would be worth making a pro grade mecharduino thing 2016-07-03T04:47:05 < emeb_mac> Laurenceb__: are there F4 parts with good analog? 2016-07-03T04:47:14 < Laurenceb__> the later revisions seem pretty good 2016-07-03T04:47:20 < Laurenceb__> almost as good as F103 2016-07-03T04:47:28 < emeb_mac> all the ones I've tried are noisy as heck. 2016-07-03T04:47:32 < Laurenceb__> as it ~11ENOB or so 2016-07-03T04:47:40 < emeb_mac> interesting 2016-07-03T04:47:47 < Laurenceb__> I forget which version I found.. its on a board at work 2016-07-03T04:47:56 < Laurenceb__> but it seemed they fixed that issue 2016-07-03T04:48:13 < emeb_mac> I've got an F446 board - those are pretty new 2016-07-03T04:48:24 < emeb_mac> should check that more closely 2016-07-03T04:48:29 < Laurenceb__> oh maybe they broke it again :S 2016-07-03T04:48:36 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-07-03T04:49:55 < Laurenceb__> looks like the component choices were very good here http://tropical-labs.com/index.php/mechaduino 2016-07-03T04:50:27 < Laurenceb__> I can't find anything better than A4954 or AS5047D 2016-07-03T04:50:46 < emeb_mac> samd21 2016-07-03T04:50:50 < Laurenceb__> but its be nice to get 5v operation and >2A 2016-07-03T04:51:11 < Laurenceb__> the micro seems a poor choice, but he runs all the heavy lifting PC side 2016-07-03T04:51:22 < Laurenceb__> and hasnt released that code lol 2016-07-03T04:51:38 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-07-03T04:52:03 < emeb_mac> an f3 could likely handle the control loops etc w/o problems 2016-07-03T04:52:08 < Laurenceb__> I can find some 16 bit encoders but they are way slower - as in millisecond response 2016-07-03T04:52:36 < Laurenceb__> also 5A drivers but they are v expensive and still 8v min voltage 2016-07-03T04:52:49 < Laurenceb__> looks like they made v good choices with the BOM 2016-07-03T04:53:12 < emeb_mac> 8v isn't that hard to get, is it? 2016-07-03T04:53:27 < Laurenceb__> nope but 5v might be useful in some cases 2016-07-03T04:53:36 < Laurenceb__> and >2A 2016-07-03T04:53:41 < Laurenceb__> http://users.ece.utexas.edu/~valvano/Datasheets/StepperMicrostep.pdf 2016-07-03T04:53:48 < Laurenceb__> I'd like to try that on the micro ^ 2016-07-03T04:54:41 < emeb_mac> aha - so they need to glue a little magnet on the shaft for the AS5047 to sense. 2016-07-03T04:54:48 < Laurenceb__> a sort of 3 stage cal 1) magno cal using open loop step, 2) microstepping position error curve estimation 3) toque ripple calibration by accelerating/decellerating the rotor 2016-07-03T04:54:58 < Laurenceb__> not even glue - it clips onto the motor shaft 2016-07-03T04:55:16 < Laurenceb__> stainless is slightly magnetic 2016-07-03T04:55:46 < Laurenceb__> atm they only run stage 1 from my list above, and it runs in matlab lol 2016-07-03T04:55:51 < emeb_mac> right - but you do have to locate the board on the axis of the shaft 2016-07-03T04:56:11 < Laurenceb__> well that angle is "arbitrary" 2016-07-03T04:56:26 < Laurenceb__> but alightment of the board needs to be <0.5mm error 2016-07-03T04:56:39 < Laurenceb__> luckily the mounting holes are standardised so thats not an issue 2016-07-03T04:56:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T04:57:12 < Laurenceb__> it seems a really awesome invention but the implementation kind of sucks 2016-07-03T04:57:25 < emeb_mac> so the PC has to be in the loop? 2016-07-03T04:57:36 < emeb_mac> the ARM is just acting as USB interface... 2016-07-03T04:57:45 < Laurenceb__> not always 2016-07-03T04:58:10 < Laurenceb__> its "the task of the user" to write their own control add on once its calibrated using pc 2016-07-03T04:58:38 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-07-03T04:59:30 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T05:02:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-03T05:02:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-03T05:05:26 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/78100912/i0n-an-open-source-arm-board-with-over-100-gpio-pi/ guys but it has over 100 gpio pins 2016-07-03T05:05:42 < dongs> My mom will collaborate, supervise, and help with the project. 2016-07-03T05:05:54 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/gdSLgXo.png kikecad render 2016-07-03T05:06:20 < emeb_mac> "your mom" 2016-07-03T05:06:24 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-03T05:24:52 -!- anton03 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T05:26:28 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-03T05:26:34 < ReadError> the video 2016-07-03T05:28:33 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-03T05:29:46 < dongs> didnt even look 2016-07-03T05:29:51 < dongs> was it autistic ohsix-like shit 2016-07-03T05:30:00 < ReadError> its pretty autistic 2016-07-03T05:30:11 < dongs> NO MATTER IF YOU HAVE A DISABILITY 2016-07-03T05:30:21 < dongs> self-assessed autism confirmed 2016-07-03T05:30:34 < ReadError> no his mom told him that 2016-07-03T05:30:44 < dongs> i didnt catch that part 2016-07-03T05:31:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T05:58:18 < dongs> bloggin 2016-07-03T05:58:26 < dongs> playing wii gamez on PC 2016-07-03T06:05:38 < emeb_mac> i see 2016-07-03T06:17:48 < anton03> im going to store all my required pulse trains in my flash memory 2016-07-03T06:18:10 < zyp> does pulse trains stop at pulse stations? 2016-07-03T06:18:20 < anton03> yes 2016-07-03T06:22:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-03T06:43:29 < dongs> more like dumbass stations 2016-07-03T06:44:32 < dongs> pretty sure flash reading speed is < sram reading speed 2016-07-03T06:53:35 < anton03> nah, it's just that its readonly 2016-07-03T06:56:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T07:06:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T07:45:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-03T07:45:18 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T07:55:57 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T07:59:15 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-03T07:59:22 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-03T08:14:37 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T08:17:43 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-03T08:25:46 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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hal bug? 2016-07-03T11:50:58 < dongs> what delay? 2016-07-03T11:51:40 < upgrdman> ohsix link, osdelay2 2016-07-03T11:51:52 < dongs> o i c 2016-07-03T11:52:45 < dongs> dont have any autism6 links in my scrollback 2016-07-03T11:53:03 < dongs> probably not a bad thing. 2016-07-03T11:55:06 < upgrdman> who, flyback 2016-07-03T11:58:57 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-03T12:17:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-03T12:56:35 < upgrdman> iirc usb printers have a universal-ish print protocol for like camera to use? any idea how hard it would be do make an mcu print text to a usb printer like that? 2016-07-03T13:00:09 < zyp> photo printers can usually pull pictures from cameras over ptp or msc 2016-07-03T13:00:28 < zyp> printer being host, camera being device 2016-07-03T13:01:04 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-03T13:01:08 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-07-03T13:01:22 < zyp> not sure if there's anything standardized to push pics from a camera to a printer 2016-07-03T13:01:28 < upgrdman> so is there any barebones universal protocol for a usb host to talk to a printer? 2016-07-03T13:01:39 < upgrdman> i dont need pix, just ascii text really 2016-07-03T13:01:49 < upgrdman> want to print reports from an f4 for f7 2016-07-03T13:01:49 < zyp> pcl? 2016-07-03T13:01:51 < zyp> idk 2016-07-03T13:01:58 < upgrdman> to a usb printer, without pc 2016-07-03T13:02:06 < upgrdman> ok, will look into pcl. thx 2016-07-03T13:09:07 < dongs> laurence-b class link http://i.4cdn.org/b/1467536999968.jpg 2016-07-03T13:10:25 < dongs> http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/devclass_docs/usbprint11a021811.pdf there's this 2016-07-03T13:10:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-03T13:11:04 < dongs> upgrdman: i think easier would be to just use a printer with ethernet 2016-07-03T13:11:18 < dongs> even dotmatrix shit has ethernet these days 2016-07-03T13:12:49 < dongs> http://khon2.com/2014/05/01/fcc-slaps-florida-highway-cell-phone-jammer-with-48k-fine/ RIP 2016-07-03T13:12:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-03T13:14:50 < zyp> nice 2016-07-03T13:27:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-03T13:34:57 < kakimir> anyone tried pcbway? 2016-07-03T13:36:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-03T13:37:31 < Ecco> wow seems cheap! 2016-07-03T13:39:15 < dongs> cheap almost never means good 2016-07-03T13:39:28 < dongs> I got some cheap 4L boards from china, i think it was < $50!!! 2016-07-03T13:39:32 < dongs> (too bad they were shit) 2016-07-03T13:39:32 < Ecco> Well the website is solid 2016-07-03T13:39:40 < kakimir> dongs: how shit? 2016-07-03T13:39:41 < Ecco> So far best I've found is eurocircuits 2016-07-03T13:39:46 < dongs> kakimir: unusable shit 2016-07-03T13:39:46 < Ecco> not cheap 2016-07-03T13:39:50 < Ecco> but really, really good 2016-07-03T13:40:09 < kakimir> you assumed to lay your minituaturized connectors and video converter packs to it? 2016-07-03T13:40:22 < dongs> it had some .4mm pitch stuff 2016-07-03T13:40:26 < dongs> iirc 2016-07-03T13:40:34 < kakimir> and it was fucked? 2016-07-03T13:40:36 < dongs> just QFNs, no BGA stuff 2016-07-03T13:41:05 < kakimir> failed them too? 2016-07-03T13:44:16 < dongs> sure 2016-07-03T13:44:26 < dongs> it was just a real filth to assemble 2016-07-03T13:44:41 < dongs> whatever bullshit hasl/wahtever (i forgot)? coating the shit had was acutally repelling solder paste 2016-07-03T13:44:43 < Ecco> By the way, how do you guys solder QFNs? 2016-07-03T13:44:44 < dongs> pretty awful shit 2016-07-03T13:44:48 < Ecco> I've had moderate success with a hot air gun 2016-07-03T13:44:57 < Ecco> but it doesn't seem very reliable 2016-07-03T13:45:02 < Ecco> I often have to do it multiple times 2016-07-03T13:45:32 < Ecco> Here's how I proceed : 1/ Put a tiny amount of solder on pads using an iron 2016-07-03T13:45:48 < Ecco> 2/ Position the QFN chip 2016-07-03T13:45:51 < Ecco> 3/ Pray it doesn't move 2016-07-03T13:45:55 < Ecco> 4/ Heat with hot air gun 2016-07-03T13:46:12 < Ecco> I also put a tiny amount of liquid flux before 4 2016-07-03T13:46:50 < kakimir> dongs: why didn't you take hasl+ 2016-07-03T13:46:54 < kakimir> gail 2016-07-03T13:47:29 < kakimir> hot air solder leveling 2016-07-03T13:48:20 < jpa-> Ecco: well this way of course: http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/pix/lga14.jpg 2016-07-03T13:49:28 < Steffanx> karlp: opensubtiltes.org vip 2016-07-03T13:49:40 < Ecco> WTF? :D 2016-07-03T13:50:26 < Steffanx> but that wasnt relevant for the rage about buttcoint karlp ;) 2016-07-03T13:52:54 < Sync> use paste Ecco 2016-07-03T13:53:34 < Steffanx> i wanted subtitles for the movies on my plex server, but hit the maximum download/24h, so i had to spend 0.016(or something) bitcoin 2016-07-03T13:53:58 < Ecco> Sync: hmm makes sense 2016-07-03T13:54:17 < Ecco> Would you guys recommend a solder paste brand/model? 2016-07-03T13:54:21 < Ecco> (and a reseller) 2016-07-03T13:54:46 < Ecco> (for prototyping, I don't care about lead-free) 2016-07-03T13:55:48 < jpa-> Ecco: also preheating is a good idea 2016-07-03T13:59:53 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T14:00:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T14:00:29 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-03T14:00:33 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-03T14:06:49 < dongs> jpa-: is that gyro in your L151 datalogger or whatever 2016-07-03T14:06:59 < jpa-> ebike 2016-07-03T14:07:05 < dongs> cool soldering 2016-07-03T14:07:21 < jpa-> somehow failed and began getting pads ripped 2016-07-03T14:07:31 < jpa-> when trying to resolder when it failed to work 2016-07-03T14:07:41 < jpa-> so did that and works perfect :) 2016-07-03T14:12:38 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Arduino-coding-FLIR-lepton/ haha 2016-07-03T14:13:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-03T14:14:31 < Steffanx> Challenge accepted? 2016-07-03T14:16:13 < Steffanx> Welcome. 2016-07-03T14:17:59 < dongs> wat 2016-07-03T14:18:45 < dongs> todays challenge: routing 0.8mm bga on 2L [completed] 2016-07-03T14:19:15 < Steffanx> 2 2016-07-03T14:20:00 < dongs> 81 2016-07-03T14:31:31 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-03T14:32:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.220] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T14:35:31 < Steffanx> stop blaxtering around crt. 2016-07-03T14:43:39 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERMICRO-846E1-R900B-BAREBONE-SERVER-CHASSIS-WITH-24x-TRAYS-/171527440510 2016-07-03T14:43:41 < ReadError> i need this 2016-07-03T14:44:22 < PeterM> buy it then? 2016-07-03T14:44:35 < PeterM> for that price i would, but they dont ship here 2016-07-03T14:44:41 < ReadError> ya im eye hustlin still, monday is holiday anyways 2016-07-03T14:45:22 < Steffanx> "NO HARD DRIVES INCLUDED" damn.. 2016-07-03T14:46:09 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERMICRO-846E1-R900B-CSE-846-X8DTE-F-2x-E5540-24GB-24x-TRAYS-/172122835907 2016-07-03T14:46:17 < ReadError> even w/ hardware they arent that much 2016-07-03T14:47:59 < jpa-> what do you need that for? 2016-07-03T14:48:35 < ReadError> move all my vmware and data stuff over to it 2016-07-03T14:48:42 < ReadError> 3.5" drives are cheap 2016-07-03T14:49:36 < jpa-> how many TB of crap do you have? 2016-07-03T14:49:53 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T14:51:12 < ReadError> i wouldnt say a whole lot 2016-07-03T14:51:27 < ReadError> but a good amount of disk 2016-07-03T14:51:51 < ReadError> still lots of 1TB floating around 2016-07-03T14:53:28 < jpa-> seems you should be able to fit enough disk to a free junker desktop chassis, and it would also be quieter than server chassis 2016-07-03T14:53:54 < Steffanx> who cares about noise when its in the basement (or something) 2016-07-03T14:54:24 < ReadError> well you can swap the fans 2016-07-03T14:54:30 < ReadError> or put it somewhere you cant hear it 2016-07-03T14:55:19 < jpa-> Steffanx: i would assume that ReadError also lives in the basement 2016-07-03T14:55:35 < Steffanx> oh sorry, forgot about that 2016-07-03T14:55:38 < ReadError> psshhh 2016-07-03T14:57:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-03T15:01:36 < Steffanx> Did you introduce your new trainee to EE/programming yet jpa-? 2016-07-03T15:03:03 < jpa-> nah, we are still in the boob grabbing 101 2016-07-03T15:03:12 < jpa-> important skills first etc. 2016-07-03T15:04:59 < Steffanx> It's clear who's the boss in jpa-'s house 2016-07-03T15:05:57 < jpa-> indeed, and he has two servants 2016-07-03T15:06:36 < jpa-> Steffanx: so when will you come and visit? 2016-07-03T15:06:59 < Steffanx> august. 2016-07-03T15:07:17 < jpa-> :) 2016-07-03T15:07:18 < Steffanx> I'll bring tectu too. 2016-07-03T15:07:20 < jpa-> good 2016-07-03T15:07:27 < jpa-> i'll put you two together in the sauna 2016-07-03T15:07:39 < Steffanx> What would you be surprised if it actually happened :P 2016-07-03T15:07:56 < Steffanx> *when 2016-07-03T15:07:58 < jpa-> what do you mean "if"? 2016-07-03T15:08:35 < Steffanx> if = the joke turning into reality. 2016-07-03T15:09:46 < jpa-> i'm totally expecting to see you here in august. 2016-07-03T15:10:24 < jpa-> ryanair is cheap and you can take train from tampere to here ;) 2016-07-03T15:12:12 < zyp> ryanair is too cheap 2016-07-03T15:12:57 < Steffanx> i actually used ryanair to visit finland years ago 2016-07-03T15:13:09 < ReadError> when is the ##stm32 meetup at dongs place 2016-07-03T15:13:30 < zyp> idk, I was there last year 2016-07-03T15:15:43 < Steffanx> We need a sponsor for that, ReadError 2016-07-03T15:21:51 < Steffanx> Hell yeah. 2016-07-03T15:31:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T15:52:07 -!- willmore [~willmore@98.220.133.20] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-03T16:02:00 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-03T16:09:01 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T16:09:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-03T16:10:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-03T16:42:11 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T16:46:25 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T16:53:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-07-03T20:21:10 < Steffanx> im not gonna sauna, damn what do you think of me? 2016-07-03T20:23:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-03T20:23:49 < zyp> weirdo 2016-07-03T20:27:40 < Steffanx> Where did the count of 12 come from englishman? Also after spending ages in ##stm32 i not sure anymore im the weirdo zyp 2016-07-03T20:27:54 < Steffanx> Im more afraid of the other 11 weirdos in the sauna :P 2016-07-03T20:29:06 < karlp> also, who said anything about fat? 2016-07-03T20:30:26 < jpa-> a bit over 5 years of ##stm32 2016-07-03T20:30:27 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 133 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 132 normal] 2016-07-03T20:30:31 < jpa-> this sure has grown a lot 2016-07-03T20:30:36 < Steffanx> and #stm32 before that? 2016-07-03T20:31:08 < Steffanx> Apr 10 15:16:25 2010 (6y 12w 2d ago) .. damn 2016-07-03T20:31:17 < karlp> Steffanx: what was the opensubtitles.org thing for me for? 2016-07-03T20:31:23 < jpa-> 2011-08-05T21:04:01 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 6 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 4 normal] 2016-07-03T20:31:48 < Steffanx> the "something" thing karlp 2016-07-03T20:32:09 < Steffanx> the "something" i needed the buttcoins for 2016-07-03T20:32:33 < jpa-> "2012-01-18T16:38:05 < zyp> just checking out if anybody says anything interesting here" zyp: so what do you think now? 2016-07-03T20:32:54 < BrainDamage> hentai subtitles? 2016-07-03T20:33:08 < Steffanx> all of my movies/series. 2016-07-03T20:33:17 < Steffanx> and that does not include hentai. 2016-07-03T20:33:51 < Steffanx> The closest thing that comes to hentai is probably .. avatar (i think) 2016-07-03T20:34:13 < zyp> jpa-, yeah, from time to time 2016-07-03T20:34:53 < jpa-> also i like how within 2 hours from zyp joining he was already telling Laurenceb "< zyp> you're doing something wrong" .. things don't change much :) 2016-07-03T20:35:28 < Steffanx> haha 2016-07-03T20:35:29 < zyp> :) 2016-07-03T20:35:30 < Steffanx> logs <3 2016-07-03T20:35:41 < jpa-> http://pastebin.com/D2nSgx1c authentic Laurenceb code from 2012 :) 2016-07-03T20:36:04 < BrainDamage> ah that distinctive lack of space 2016-07-03T20:36:06 < Steffanx> i see ##stm32 was already totally offtopic when jpa- joined. 2016-07-03T20:36:32 < Steffanx> "<+izua> ain't a lot of activity here, usually, but sometimes there are on-topic discussions" 2016-07-03T20:36:51 < zyp> wonder where izua did go 2016-07-03T20:37:13 < zyp> I remember I sent him some shit once, but I never got to hear if he received it 2016-07-03T20:37:15 < Steffanx> he started to work as a construction worker after he finished his IT related study. 2016-07-03T20:37:50 < Steffanx> and that's all i know. 2016-07-03T20:39:21 < Steffanx> those weird romanians. 2016-07-03T20:40:09 < Steffanx> i see our well used wiki no longer exists http://stm32.izua.ro/ 2016-07-03T20:42:41 < Laurenceb__> lul mechaduino schematic 2016-07-03T20:43:04 < Laurenceb__> people trolling me? Whats new 2016-07-03T20:44:52 < Laurenceb__> tarduino is using 187kHz pwm for stepper commutation 2016-07-03T20:45:01 < Laurenceb__> and I thought F3 DAC would be a bad idea 2016-07-03T20:47:27 < englishman> Laurenceb__ can come too? if he gets an EU visa 2016-07-03T20:48:21 < zyp> haha 2016-07-03T20:48:51 < zyp> so, uh 2016-07-03T20:48:59 < zyp> unlike Laurenceb__ I'm actually in the EU now 2016-07-03T20:49:14 < zyp> (yeah, I know brexit isn't finalized, whatever) 2016-07-03T20:49:30 < BrainDamage> it's not even started to my knowledge 2016-07-03T20:49:43 < BrainDamage> until they make formal request, and after that it's 2 years 2016-07-03T20:49:48 < Steffanx> Are they evne sure yet it will start? 2016-07-03T20:54:06 < englishman> here you go Laurenceb__ show this at the border https://i.sli.mg/Fm4yqi.png 2016-07-03T20:54:28 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ http://i.imgur.com/Xxl0UB4.jpg 2016-07-03T20:55:33 < Steffanx> real paint skills you have there englishman 2016-07-03T20:55:46 < Steffanx> No photo? 2016-07-03T21:06:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.246] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T21:09:06 < kakimir> hello sensuals 2016-07-03T21:09:33 < englishman> kakimir: pcbway is the same crappy chinapcb as everywhere else with approx the same price 2016-07-03T21:09:38 < Steffanx> You cannot join our sauna party. 2016-07-03T21:09:42 < Steffanx> @kakimir 2016-07-03T21:09:47 < englishman> their website is a little better but there is no rendered preview 2016-07-03T21:10:27 < kakimir> are you haveing a party? 2016-07-03T21:10:30 < kakimir> with laurence? 2016-07-03T21:12:31 < kakimir> cannot join.. budget has been met now 2016-07-03T21:12:58 < kakimir> new hobby 2016-07-03T21:13:52 < BrainDamage> new hobby: smuggling goods and people across the uk's border 2016-07-03T21:14:43 < BrainDamage> maybe we'll find laurenceb in the headlines trying to cross to the eu while the smuggling boat sank 2016-07-03T21:15:57 < kakimir> :D 2016-07-03T21:15:58 < Steffanx> that or he will get caught for importing bad jokes into the EU. 2016-07-03T21:16:35 < kakimir> *loud evil laughter* 2016-07-03T21:21:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-03T21:24:44 < kakimir> my hopefully new hobby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsQowfCh6sE 2016-07-03T21:25:07 < kakimir> lame planes 2016-07-03T21:27:45 < Steffanx> don't you need munny for that? 2016-07-03T21:29:38 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-03T21:29:50 < kakimir> like +2000eur to reach licence level 2016-07-03T21:29:56 < kakimir> closer to 250 2016-07-03T21:29:58 < kakimir> 2500 2016-07-03T21:30:08 < kakimir> but I have 2 years to get there 2016-07-03T21:30:27 < kakimir> and they send bills like end of year or so anyways 2016-07-03T21:30:28 < kakimir> ! 2016-07-03T21:31:21 < __rob> anyone used http://www.pcbway.com/ ? 2016-07-03T21:31:35 < kakimir> that was the question I had earlier today 2016-07-03T21:49:51 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 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is more expenciver here 2016-07-03T22:16:15 < kakimir> or pretty much same total at licence level 2016-07-03T22:16:23 < englishman> cool 2016-07-03T22:16:36 < kakimir> what you learn in paragliding course -> nothing 2016-07-03T22:17:09 < kakimir> what you learn in sailin course -> whole aviation basics 2016-07-03T22:17:48 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLARM#Protocol how is such encryption enforced 2016-07-03T22:17:49 < kakimir> ? 2016-07-03T22:19:20 < kakimir> weakly? 2016-07-03T22:19:49 < kakimir> just read the keys out of MCU on board 2016-07-03T22:27:39 < kakimir> englishman: you do soaring? 2016-07-03T22:33:28 < kakimir> https://vimeo.com/108650530 2016-07-03T22:34:23 < englishman> kakimir: no but i got my aeroplane license last year 2016-07-03T22:35:40 < kakimir> you fly club plane? 2016-07-03T22:41:02 < zyp> I'm thinking about getting a plane license myself, maybe just norwegian ultralight or something 2016-07-03T22:41:14 < zyp> some time I've got time and money to waste on it 2016-07-03T22:41:36 < kakimir> check soaring 2016-07-03T22:41:49 < kakimir> there is planes with engine you can fly with same licence 2016-07-03T22:42:29 < kakimir> clubs rarelly have more than one though 2016-07-03T22:42:43 < zyp> idk, ultralights seems more interesting to me 2016-07-03T22:43:11 < englishman> i dont fly much since i moved to the middle of nowhere 2016-07-03T22:43:28 < englishman> but there is a skydiving school a few km away i can hear them screaming 2016-07-03T22:43:46 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-03T22:43:49 < englishman> when i got my license http://i.imgur.com/ZHmJ1NP.jpg 2016-07-03T22:43:51 < kakimir> :D 2016-07-03T22:44:35 < kakimir> englishman: get free hours as flying as their pilot 2016-07-03T22:45:03 < kakimir> first you need to have such licence you can do skydivers 2016-07-03T22:45:21 < englishman> yes first i need 300 hours, a commercial license and a cessna caravan 2016-07-03T22:46:05 < kakimir> is it business or club based? 2016-07-03T22:46:20 < englishman> skydiving? business 2016-07-03T22:46:44 < kakimir> in here it's 95% club based 2016-07-03T22:48:09 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-03T22:48:22 < kakimir> they buy their own plane and get someone to fly it and so on 2016-07-03T22:49:12 < jadew> 300 hours doesn't sound like much 2016-07-03T22:49:19 < jadew> what does it take to get a license? 2016-07-03T22:49:29 < kakimir> less than that? 2016-07-03T22:50:05 < jadew> no, I mean, the license to fly, is it like driving school? 2016-07-03T22:50:41 < englishman> depends on the country i guess lol 2016-07-03T22:51:02 < jadew> I bet it's similar in most countries 2016-07-03T22:51:34 < kakimir> because there is international aviation laws applied to licences 2016-07-03T22:51:43 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-03T22:51:49 < kakimir> those courses are quire uniform across the world 2016-07-03T22:51:58 < englishman> here it is ~40 hrs ground instruction, ~40h plane instruction, tests along the way, ~15h solo flight, various tasks and manoeuvers to complete like a 300nm flight, then a written test and practical test given by a federal examiner 2016-07-03T22:51:58 < zyp> PPL has like 40-50 hour minimums AFAIK 2016-07-03T22:52:28 < kakimir> soaring here has 50hours minimum 2016-07-03T22:52:31 < kakimir> flying 2016-07-03T22:52:32 < englishman> there are simpler licenses in some countries meant for old farts with poor medical history 2016-07-03T22:52:39 < kakimir> and something similar for theory 2016-07-03T22:52:45 < kakimir> classes 2016-07-03T22:52:49 < englishman> with restrictions like daytime only, max 1 passenger, or stuff like that 2016-07-03T22:52:50 < zyp> ultralight here has 25h minimum IIRC 2016-07-03T22:52:52 < jadew> so it really is like a driving course 2016-07-03T22:53:00 < englishman> driving++ 2016-07-03T22:53:05 < englishman> maybe more like a euro driving exam 2016-07-03T22:53:46 < kakimir> they say that people who have minimum hours usually are barely safe to go 2016-07-03T22:54:02 < englishman> yeah id agree 2016-07-03T22:54:15 < jadew> it's the same for driving too 2016-07-03T22:54:25 < kakimir> I was once on inspection flight with one dude who had minimum hours and inspector 2016-07-03T22:54:29 < jadew> there's no way they can teach you enough in 40 hours 2016-07-03T22:54:47 < kakimir> they had to repeat moves 5times 2016-07-03T22:55:10 < jadew> "ok, you crashed us, let's go get another plane" 2016-07-03T22:55:15 < zyp> jadew, yeah 2016-07-03T22:55:25 < kakimir> I stuck my face to hole in window in case I happend to vomit 2016-07-03T22:55:57 < zyp> over here they recommend 2000km of practice driving (with a parent or something) 2016-07-03T22:56:31 < englishman> https://www.amazon.ca/Killing-Zone-Second-How-Pilots/dp/0071798404 2016-07-03T22:56:34 < englishman> pretty cool book for non pilots 2016-07-03T22:56:44 < jadew> in here, they don't let you leave the country for a year 2016-07-03T22:56:49 < englishman> about the statistically high probability of pilot death between 50 and 300 hours 2016-07-03T22:57:36 < jadew> englishman, what's the TL;DR version? 2016-07-03T22:58:07 < englishman> all kinds of reasons 2016-07-03T22:58:12 < zyp> complacency 2016-07-03T22:58:17 < englishman> thats a big one 2016-07-03T22:58:20 < englishman> human error 2016-07-03T22:58:29 < englishman> becoming comfortable with flying on margins, then pushing those margins 2016-07-03T22:58:45 < jadew> those are rookie mistakes 2016-07-03T22:58:56 < jadew> and something young people would do 2016-07-03T22:59:27 < jadew> rookie in the sense that they're new at life 2016-07-03T22:59:28 < zyp> and at 50h you're a rookie 2016-07-03T23:01:29 < englishman> hence the 50-300h zone of statistically high death rate 2016-07-03T23:01:54 < jadew> is there any correlation with age? 2016-07-03T23:02:20 < englishman> hm i dont recall the book talking about that at all 2016-07-03T23:02:44 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@184.75.221.3] has quit [Quit: Textual 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mean we cant go 2016-07-03T23:12:45 < jadew> haha 2016-07-03T23:15:34 < kakimir> you should suprise him 2016-07-03T23:15:45 < kakimir> and come uninvited 2016-07-03T23:25:05 < Steffanx> poor karlp, are you still watching? 2016-07-03T23:46:33 < Steffanx> jpa-, ryanair doesnt even fly finland 2016-07-03T23:51:02 < BrainDamage> have englishman or beakmir fly you there --- Day changed Mon Jul 04 2016 2016-07-04T00:01:09 -!- dfgg [~damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-04T00:03:22 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-04T00:10:18 < Steffanx> Englishman does transatlantic flights? 2016-07-04T00:13:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T00:18:24 < kakimir> I wonder how transatlantic in cessna feels like 2016-07-04T00:19:01 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njpskdvvviqtdrqa] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T00:19:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-04T00:23:09 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/sFiXzS.jpg 2016-07-04T00:23:12 < BrainDamage> i suspect salty, with a oil aftertaste 2016-07-04T00:23:39 < BrainDamage> can you even pack enough fuel to go trought? 2016-07-04T00:24:12 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-04T00:27:52 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T00:28:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-04T00:32:07 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-04T00:36:19 < kakimir> BrainDamage: no 2016-07-04T00:36:26 < kakimir> I don't think 2016-07-04T00:38:24 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T00:38:50 < kakimir> it takes you far enought you to be very fukken when tanks are drained 2016-07-04T01:14:28 -!- DLPeterson 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tempted to kickstarter this, but decent firmware would take forever to write 2016-07-04T02:28:04 < Laurenceb__> well F303 + AS5047P + LDO + FETs is pretty cheap 2016-07-04T02:28:41 < Laurenceb__> the opamps+ comparators can do current regulation with no additional parts 2016-07-04T02:29:08 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T02:29:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-19-176-217.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-04T02:31:01 < anton02> https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1467565966111.jpg 2016-07-04T02:31:39 < Laurenceb__> holy shit piranha 3 is good 2016-07-04T02:32:26 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njpskdvvviqtdrqa] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-04T02:34:05 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T02:36:42 < Laurenceb__> yeah, v expensive 2016-07-04T02:39:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-19-176-217.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 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spensive :S 2016-07-04T04:03:59 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T04:04:29 < emeb_mac> eep 2016-07-04T04:04:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-04T04:06:13 < Laurenceb__> I dont think it'd be doable for <$15 2016-07-04T04:06:41 < emeb_mac> https://world.taobao.com/item/528654894804.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.elDisQ#detail 2016-07-04T04:06:46 < emeb_mac> cheaper in china 2016-07-04T04:06:52 < emeb_mac> only $5 2016-07-04T04:07:58 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-04T04:10:27 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-07-04T04:14:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-04T04:19:53 < emeb_mac> eraserhead - never seen it. 2016-07-04T04:20:05 < emeb_mac> don't actually care much for david lynch movies 2016-07-04T04:20:52 < emeb_mac> liked twin peaks though - probably because he dialed back the creep factor. 2016-07-04T05:06:05 < dongs> hohoho 2016-07-04T05:06:15 < dongs> got the GT23L16U2Y font rom 2016-07-04T05:06:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T05:29:01 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-Design-conversion-from-Allegro/ 2016-07-04T05:29:11 < dongs> job for R2PRO 2016-07-04T05:37:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T05:50:38 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-04T05:55:56 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T06:34:24 < englishman> ohsix: i lit a fire on friday night that way https://i.sli.mg/g5cObp.jpg 2016-07-04T07:01:43 < dongs> http://www.ixysic.com/home/pdfs.nsf/www/LCA715.pdf/$file/LCA715.pdf 2016-07-04T07:01:43 < dongs> cool 2016-07-04T07:03:37 < dongs> need to show to yoduza 2016-07-04T07:03:41 < dongs> so he can pwm it at 80MHz 2016-07-04T07:08:32 < englishman> ohsix: poured some gas on it 2016-07-04T07:08:39 < englishman> and, the pyre set on fire, intended effect 2016-07-04T07:08:48 < englishman> it wasnt barcelona 1992 but was still fun 2016-07-04T07:40:19 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T07:40:51 < Jak_o_Shadows> Is there a nice library for some of the things like priority queues? 2016-07-04T07:41:08 < Jak_o_Shadows> Then expanding further into matrix maths, least squares fitting, and eigenvalues? 2016-07-04T07:41:16 < Jak_o_Shadows> (priority queues is my immediate concetrn) 2016-07-04T07:45:16 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-04T07:45:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T07:55:01 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T07:55:38 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmeWUewVIAAcMWj.jpg 2016-07-04T07:55:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.26.196] has joined 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PeterM> maybe like... 7zip? 2016-07-04T10:44:59 < upgrdman_> 7zip is ugly but works 2016-07-04T10:45:07 < upgrdman_> by shitty i meant winrar 2016-07-04T10:45:18 < upgrdman_> hershey 2016-07-04T10:45:26 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-04T10:47:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-04T10:52:00 < dongs> Ultrasauce: unrar.exe 2016-07-04T10:52:02 < dongs> err 2016-07-04T10:52:11 < dongs> fuckinkike 2016-07-04T10:52:22 < dongs> why the fuck would you use anything other than unrar.exe anyway 2016-07-04T10:56:05 < Fleck> windows == shitty 2016-07-04T10:56:15 < Fleck> what tool do you expect? :D dooh 2016-07-04T11:01:54 < dongs> for(supergirl=0;supergirl<32;supergirl++) 2016-07-04T11:01:56 < dongs> lol 2016-07-04T11:02:00 < dongs> found this code 2016-07-04T11:23:44 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-04T11:23:59 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] 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have to try it agaon. 2016-07-04T13:17:29 < upgrdman_> i may be able to use stm32 at work, and if i can setup my coworker with simple, free, legal software, that'll make an easy sell 2016-07-04T13:28:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T13:51:38 < dongs> eclipse + gnu arm eclipse + clone jlink + gcc works great 2016-07-04T13:51:43 < dongs> like 10 minutes to setup 2016-07-04T13:52:00 < dongs> probably extra hour to get STLink working 2016-07-04T13:52:04 < dongs> cuz you gotta fuck with openocd 2016-07-04T13:52:12 < dongs> SW4STM32 should be a one-click install tho 2016-07-04T13:52:20 < dongs> and you can even generate shit for it from cube directly 2016-07-04T13:54:35 < upgrdman_> ya i use eclipse and gnu arm etc now. one-dick installer seems nice tho. 2016-07-04T14:13:09 < Thorn> so the USART TXE interruot is not cleared by writing to DR unless you access a CR afterwards. I tried replacing that access with a dmb/dsb but it doesn't work. why? 2016-07-04T14:17:08 < knielsen> Thorn: So is the reference manual wrong? My copy (for STM32F407) says that the TXE is cleared by writing USART_DR? 2016-07-04T14:18:07 < Thorn> it is but apparently not fast enough 2016-07-04T14:28:14 < Laurenceb> has anyone used encoder mode on timers? 2016-07-04T14:28:31 < Laurenceb> does it use the first two channels? 2016-07-04T14:31:51 < Laurenceb> I cant see why it should have to but datasheet suggests yes 2016-07-04T14:32:20 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-04T14:32:53 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-131.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T14:33:36 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T14:38:49 < Laurenceb> found ohsix http://imgur.com/EO9Ke6p 2016-07-04T14:41:44 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-07-04T14:46:47 < Laurenceb> https://www.google.co.jp/maps/@43.2131804,141.4640044,17z YES 2016-07-04T14:50:31 < upgrdman_> http://imgur.com/isTGrEt 2016-07-04T14:52:53 < Laurenceb> https://www.google.co.jp/maps/@43.1089553,131.8965857,3a,66.8y,94.24h,91.62t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7ua0AOZWN68M2RdKX5nm0A!2e0 2016-07-04T14:54:35 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-04T15:18:40 < dongs> wat 2016-07-04T15:21:15 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/GPS-smart-belt-trousers-shirts/ 2016-07-04T15:21:33 < dongs> My project is on buying GPS modules and embedding them into belts, shirts, and shoes to be used in Nigeria. I need an expert who can help develop my concept and put life into my concept 2016-07-04T15:21:42 < dongs> budget: $250 2016-07-04T15:29:40 < karlp> Laurenceb: what are we looking at? 2016-07-04T15:29:59 < Laurenceb> Vladivostok 2016-07-04T15:30:24 < karlp> and....? 2016-07-04T15:30:32 < Laurenceb> nice view that all :P 2016-07-04T15:30:41 * karlp shakes his head. 2016-07-04T15:30:46 < karlp> you're fucking nuts you are. 2016-07-04T15:30:55 < dongs> srsly 2016-07-04T15:30:58 < karlp> what was at 141? in japan? that was all "YES" ? 2016-07-04T15:30:59 < dongs> i was looking for a bridge jumper or something 2016-07-04T15:31:09 < Laurenceb> Sweden 2016-07-04T15:31:10 < dongs> like. SOMETHING FUNNY 2016-07-04T15:31:12 < Laurenceb> in Japan 2016-07-04T15:31:30 < Laurenceb> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sweden-yes 2016-07-04T15:32:12 < dongs> not funny 2016-07-04T15:33:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec23c16-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-04T15:34:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec29cba-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T15:50:35 < karlp> someone remind me to pok emeb when's he's back for that archaic björk video 2016-07-04T16:06:29 < ReadError> Keeping Up with the Kardashians S12E09 720p HDTV x264 BTCHKEK 2016-07-04T16:06:35 < ReadError> found Laurenceb's release group 2016-07-04T16:11:46 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-04T16:18:43 < dongs> http://www.chinakexin.com/tech.asp?Sid=4 here's a question for pros 2016-07-04T16:18:53 < dongs> what does 123,323,523,723 mean in SOT/SOD 2016-07-04T16:19:10 < ReadError> ofc you dumb cloner 2016-07-04T16:23:56 < dongs> got my hdmi-d sockets today. they fuckin small 2016-07-04T16:28:58 < Sync> no shiet 2016-07-04T16:29:22 < Laurenceb> so, anyone here used encoder mode? 2016-07-04T16:29:36 < Laurenceb> does it basically mean you cant use channels 1 and 2? 2016-07-04T16:37:43 < emeryth> Laurenceb: I used encoder mode, but I haven't though about what happens to the channels 2016-07-04T16:37:52 < dongs> Laurenceb: yes 2016-07-04T16:38:02 < dongs> Laurenceb: correct, it needs to be on ch1/2 2016-07-04T16:38:04 < Laurenceb> sukzor 2016-07-04T16:38:12 < dongs> you can use them for otehr stuff if youre not spinning encoder 2016-07-04T16:38:16 < dongs> but otherwise yea.. they're stuck 2016-07-04T16:38:35 < Laurenceb> pity there is no way to "gang" tim8 or tim1 on F3 2016-07-04T16:38:42 < Laurenceb> s/or/off 2016-07-04T16:39:17 < Laurenceb> guess it needs external connections to Tim1 and Tim8 Ch1 and Ch2 2016-07-04T16:39:26 < dongs> for what 2016-07-04T16:39:27 < dongs> wtf are you doing 2016-07-04T16:39:30 < Laurenceb> in order to drive two coils 2016-07-04T16:39:43 < Laurenceb> so tim1 and tim8 ch3 and 4 for the coil fets 2016-07-04T16:39:54 < dongs> errr,, you dont need to use TIM1 or 8 for encoder mode 2016-07-04T16:39:56 < dongs> you dork 2016-07-04T16:40:03 < dongs> you can slave TIM1/8 off some c heap timer with encoder 2016-07-04T16:40:12 < dongs> if youre using encoder for position feedback 2016-07-04T16:40:29 < dongs> i think theres even a sample doing this in stdperiph 2016-07-04T16:40:32 < Laurenceb> yeah but I need complimentary mode with break and dead time to drive FETs directly 2016-07-04T16:40:36 < dongs> yes... 2016-07-04T16:40:42 < dongs> so you use TIM1/8 for that 2016-07-04T16:40:46 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-04T16:40:50 < dongs> and a random timer for encoder feedback 2016-07-04T16:41:09 < Laurenceb> ok then I could just use tim1 with four channels 2016-07-04T16:41:13 < Laurenceb> simples 2016-07-04T16:42:04 < dongs> right 2016-07-04T16:45:14 < Laurenceb> so cheap timers gets set with reload value of like 2 2016-07-04T16:45:27 < Laurenceb> then update is used as master output 2016-07-04T16:45:42 < Laurenceb> seems to make sense 2016-07-04T16:45:57 < Laurenceb> shit 2016-07-04T16:46:16 < Laurenceb> only 1 break input per timer, so I still need Tim 1 and 8 2016-07-04T16:47:35 < dongs> bedtime 2016-07-04T16:48:58 < Laurenceb> maybe two timers can be slaved off one 2016-07-04T16:58:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-131.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-04T17:03:15 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T17:15:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-04T17:24:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-04T18:04:33 -!- ReadError_ [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T18:09:38 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-04T18:09:39 -!- 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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcPqp0RaPEg 2016-07-04T23:50:53 < Thorn> R2COM: something like DISPLAY=:0 firefox & 2016-07-04T23:51:35 < Thorn> there was a windows x server btw http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/ 2016-07-04T23:51:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.71.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-04T23:51:54 < ReadError> mobaxterm is gr8 2016-07-04T23:52:06 < BrainDamage> you don't need to specify display 2016-07-04T23:52:10 < BrainDamage> it's inherited as env var 2016-07-04T23:53:06 < BrainDamage> just say lollunix and reboot to windows me 2016-07-04T23:58:28 < yan> ohsix: it has the ETM, i'm just trying to figure out how to use it heh 2016-07-04T23:58:55 < yan> ohsix: do you know how i'd even get the bitstream? --- Day changed Tue Jul 05 2016 2016-07-05T00:03:57 < englishman> found video of karlp https://vid.me/U5w8 2016-07-05T00:04:02 < englishman> 50% probability 2016-07-05T00:08:42 -!- yan [~user@162.243.0.148] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 2016-07-05T00:09:24 -!- yan [~user@162.243.0.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T00:23:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T00:26:43 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jfxkiechgwaolyjl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T00:31:11 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-05T00:31:12 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-05T00:31:24 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T00:44:09 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@94.198.136.243] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T00:46:35 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T01:04:58 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@94.198.136.243] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-05T01:19:48 -!- SadMan [foobar@sadman.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T01:25:59 < kakimir> I think I try sandblasting combining pressured sand injection to high power water injector! 2016-07-05T01:26:18 < kakimir> I saw video about dustless sandblasting 2016-07-05T01:26:35 < kakimir> or maybe it mixed water to air streem 2016-07-05T01:26:42 < kakimir> stream 2016-07-05T01:30:24 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKNnptZTVkQ2NyMnc/view?usp=sharing tried my new 4G outside 2016-07-05T01:30:42 < kakimir> note: I live in rural area 2016-07-05T01:31:42 < kakimir> dongs: look my internets! 29eur per month 2016-07-05T01:32:02 < kakimir> including unlimited everything 2016-07-05T01:32:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T01:33:56 < BrainDamage> unlimited porn 2016-07-05T01:34:34 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-05T01:36:26 < kakimir> my penis needs medical attention soon 2016-07-05T01:44:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.222.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-05T01:49:49 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T01:50:25 < englishman> lol have you been trying to get lunix to work like all day 2016-07-05T01:51:34 < englishman> i dont think lunix sypports sound yet 2016-07-05T01:52:01 < englishman> also if you want higher framerate, get rid of x altogether and use a commandline like 99.9% of lunix users 2016-07-05T01:57:00 < PeterM> jesus fuck oss vs alsa and pulseaudio vs jack wtf linux get your shit together 2016-07-05T01:57:45 < kakimir> is that thing still going on? 2016-07-05T01:57:57 < kakimir> oss and alsa are driver level systems 2016-07-05T01:58:14 < kakimir> *hardware driver 2016-07-05T01:58:33 < kakimir> pulseaudio and jack are like one step higher level shit 2016-07-05T01:58:40 < PeterM> no shit, thats why 2016-07-05T01:58:48 < PeterM> i said oss vs also 2016-07-05T01:58:51 < PeterM> alsa 2016-07-05T01:58:55 < BrainDamage> oss is dead 2016-07-05T01:59:05 < BrainDamage> also howrever has an userspace layer 2016-07-05T01:59:13 < BrainDamage> which is why people always get confused 2016-07-05T01:59:21 < BrainDamage> there's alsa kernel and alsa userspace 2016-07-05T01:59:56 < PeterM> so its now alsa + alsa vs pulseaudio vs jack? 2016-07-05T02:00:51 < BrainDamage> yes 2016-07-05T02:01:35 < kakimir> jack is used for like.. audio workstations? 2016-07-05T02:01:39 < BrainDamage> yes 2016-07-05T02:01:54 < kakimir> so it's actually alsa + alsa and pulseaudio 2016-07-05T02:01:55 < BrainDamage> average user doesn't and shouldn't give a shit about jack 2016-07-05T02:02:01 < BrainDamage> not and 2016-07-05T02:02:03 < BrainDamage> or 2016-07-05T02:02:09 < kakimir> why or 2016-07-05T02:02:22 < BrainDamage> because if you use both at the same time you're going to cry 2016-07-05T02:02:34 < BrainDamage> because either pulse or alsa wants exclusive access to the krnel 2016-07-05T02:02:36 < kakimir> does pulseaudio btw. work as alsa handler? 2016-07-05T02:02:44 < BrainDamage> and in fact it's the #1 source of audio shenanigans 2016-07-05T02:02:48 < BrainDamage> people trying to use both 2016-07-05T02:02:49 < kakimir> if aplication is alsa 2016-07-05T02:02:58 < BrainDamage> yes, pulse can fake alsa userspace 2016-07-05T02:03:05 < PeterM> speaking of audio workstations, does anyone know of a not stupidly expensive replacement ofr the m-audio delta 1010? 2016-07-05T02:03:12 < kakimir> so alsa + pulseaudio it is 2016-07-05T02:03:22 < kakimir> just ubuntu it 2016-07-05T02:03:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T02:06:26 < kakimir> why did you leave ubuntu? 2016-07-05T02:08:02 < ReadError> does sound work ? 2016-07-05T02:08:15 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-05T02:08:17 < ReadError> like driver wise 2016-07-05T02:08:28 < kakimir> you get what you ask for 2016-07-05T02:08:37 < ReadError> lspci 2016-07-05T02:10:10 < ReadError> r u root m8? 2016-07-05T02:10:34 < Sync> well that is what you get for using centos 2016-07-05T02:10:42 < ReadError> yum install lshw -y 2016-07-05T02:11:37 < ReadError> lshw -class all 2016-07-05T02:11:55 < ReadError> or 2016-07-05T02:11:58 < ReadError> lshw -short 2016-07-05T02:12:00 < kakimir> what linux breed centos is? 2016-07-05T02:13:20 < ReadError> 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller 2016-07-05T02:13:34 < Sync> R2COM: archlinux 2016-07-05T02:14:04 < kakimir> install gentoo 2016-07-05T02:14:31 < Sync> because I wanted a binary distribution that still enables me to automate building shits 2016-07-05T02:14:49 < ReadError> R2COM 2016-07-05T02:14:50 < ReadError> lsmod 2016-07-05T02:15:00 < ReadError> see if theres some shit loaded 2016-07-05T02:17:00 < Laurenceb__> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/02/politics/donald-trump-tweet-graphic-star-hillary-clinton/ 2016-07-05T02:17:26 < Laurenceb__> what "fringe message board" could this be 2016-07-05T02:17:33 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-05T02:18:07 < ReadError> yum install alsa*.x86_64 -y 2016-07-05T02:19:13 < ReadError> amixer set Master 100 2016-07-05T02:19:44 < ReadError> youtube? 2016-07-05T02:20:24 < ReadError> install chrome or w/e 2016-07-05T02:20:46 < Sync> why the fuck not? 2016-07-05T02:21:18 < ReadError> http://www.tecmint.com/install-google-chrome-on-redhat-centos-fedora-linux/ 2016-07-05T02:21:49 < kakimir> OSS was around linux 2.4 times 2016-07-05T02:21:55 < kakimir> and oldshit 2016-07-05T02:23:39 < BrainDamage> ohsix: all you need is like 5 lines in alsa config file anyway, no need for particularry complex setups 2016-07-05T02:24:47 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-05T02:24:47 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T02:25:04 < BrainDamage> for pa? you actually *do* need one, if your distro doesn't provide it 2016-07-05T02:25:16 < ReadError> R2COM try running it as not root? 2016-07-05T02:25:23 < BrainDamage> it just happends that distros do include it for you 2016-07-05T02:25:36 < BrainDamage> but in mine, it has to be installed separately 2016-07-05T02:25:39 < ReadError> did you install the rpm ? 2016-07-05T02:25:51 < BrainDamage> this is what the file does: http://pastebin.com/LgL3zjNQ 2016-07-05T02:26:23 < BrainDamage> wat 2016-07-05T02:26:48 < BrainDamage> i wish we had a quote grabbing bot 2016-07-05T02:29:57 < BrainDamage> that's the WHOLE POINT 2016-07-05T02:30:07 < Sync> ^ 2016-07-05T02:32:22 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jfxkiechgwaolyjl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-05T02:33:00 < BrainDamage> ohsix: oh look, now you just backpedaled and agreed with me 2016-07-05T02:33:07 < dongs> unlol 2016-07-05T02:33:29 < Sync> doing it rong R2COM 2016-07-05T02:33:31 < dongs> R2COM: time for en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_apr_2016_x64_dvd_8705583.iso 2016-07-05T02:33:43 < BrainDamage> i told you to switch to win me 2016-07-05T02:34:35 < dongs> < BrainDamage> ohsix: all you need is like 5 lines in alsa config file anyway, no need for particularry complex setups 2016-07-05T02:34:38 < dongs> lol 2016-07-05T02:34:46 < dongs> thats 5 more than I'd ever wanna deal wiht 2016-07-05T02:35:03 < dongs> why the fuck should anyone edit "config files" to hear audio 2016-07-05T02:35:05 < BrainDamage> dongs: as i said, those lines are also auto provided by the distro itself 2016-07-05T02:35:05 < dongs> in 2016 2016-07-05T02:36:11 < dongs> R2COM: http://www.osboxes.org/ubuntu/ http://www.osboxes.org/fedora/ etc 2016-07-05T02:36:16 < dongs> R2COM: are you using virtualcox or vmware? 2016-07-05T02:36:24 < dongs> stop trying to install shit 2016-07-05T02:36:32 < dongs> installing lunix is dumb just download something others made 2016-07-05T02:37:26 < kakimir> R2COM: what was the programs you needed centos for? 2016-07-05T02:37:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T02:37:51 < dongs> http://www.osboxes.org/centos/ or thius 2016-07-05T02:38:52 < dongs> R2COM: it doesnt fucking matter. for all you care you can just make it start fucking Xyce on boot and never touch any desktop 2016-07-05T02:38:52 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T02:39:07 < dongs> desktop weight is the least of your problems 2016-07-05T02:39:09 < dongs> when youre on lunix 2016-07-05T02:39:37 < anton02> wow, ST are really nice people. they provide you with all their altium schematic files 2016-07-05T02:39:51 < dongs> not all,but a lot. 2016-07-05T02:39:54 < kakimir> R2COM: you work for military industry? 2016-07-05T02:40:04 < dongs> kakimir: R2PRO works for spacex 2016-07-05T02:41:03 < kakimir> no way 2016-07-05T02:41:32 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE848C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-05T02:43:18 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-05T02:43:27 < kakimir> this company that provides xyce also does some stuff like nuclear weapons 2016-07-05T02:45:50 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugD6T4MPXUw 2016-07-05T02:46:20 < Sync> kakimir: it is not a "company" in that sense 2016-07-05T02:46:59 < kakimir> it's lockheed martin 2016-07-05T02:48:16 < kakimir> I don't feel too safe if R2COM jubb has something to do with U.S. nuclear weapons 2016-07-05T02:49:34 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-05T02:51:17 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE85E7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T02:52:04 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-05T02:52:47 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-07-05T02:53:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T02:56:24 < dongs> https://www.amazon.com/ripoff/dp/0072524936 2016-07-05T02:56:48 < dongs> why is it $288 2016-07-05T02:57:13 < dongs> oh, its a fucking textbook 2016-07-05T02:57:52 < dongs> none, just checking 2016-07-05T02:59:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-05T02:59:23 < dongs> giving something to ohsix to assburger about 2016-07-05T03:00:11 < kakimir> R2COM: you work for L.M.? 2016-07-05T03:01:46 < kakimir> not even down the chain? 2016-07-05T03:02:21 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/mL1MZXg.jpg found a bug 2016-07-05T03:03:57 < dongs> https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101111155327AAL4cqj 2016-07-05T03:05:10 < kakimir> kool 2016-07-05T03:07:16 < kakimir> dongs: you have a thing for spiders? 2016-07-05T03:07:27 < aandrew> that's a rather large bug 2016-07-05T03:07:33 < aandrew> I prefer my bugs 0402 or smaller 2016-07-05T03:08:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T03:09:53 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-hqqfizpimoqejnnl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T03:11:31 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T03:12:37 < dongs> aandrew: aandrew thats not a large bug. this is: http://i.imgur.com/VxekcjM.jpg 2016-07-05T03:12:37 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-05T03:12:38 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-07-05T03:13:54 < dongs> http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/07/04/new-tokyo-cat-cafe-filled-only-with-apple-cats-who-have-feline-aids/ 2016-07-05T03:14:41 < aandrew> dongs: that URL was like engineered specifically for you 2016-07-05T03:14:46 < dongs> yes 2016-07-05T03:15:25 < kakimir> dongs: did you touch it= 2016-07-05T03:20:11 < dongs> touch the aids? 2016-07-05T03:20:12 < dongs> dicknplace time. 2016-07-05T03:26:03 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-05T03:27:19 < kakimir> dongs: dat spidder? 2016-07-05T03:27:37 < dongs> ah suerw 2016-07-05T03:38:38 < ReadError> hey kakimir can you try and ask more strange questions? 2016-07-05T03:39:20 < BrainDamage> if the pope sneezes, who's entitled to wish him "bless you" ? 2016-07-05T03:39:32 < ReadError> [20:07:16] kakimir: dongs: you have a thing for 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[20:15:25] kakimir: dongs: did you touch it= 2016-07-05T03:42:13 < kakimir> I'm pretty sure dongs have thing for spiders - his cloud is full of spider pics 2016-07-05T03:46:26 < aandrew> dongs: dude if I had things like that in my house I'd be moving 2016-07-05T03:46:33 < dongs> hehe 2016-07-05T03:47:10 < kakimir> small spiders are nice inside the house 2016-07-05T03:47:19 < kakimir> those eat all little fuckkery 2016-07-05T03:47:36 < aandrew> I see pictures of those coconut crabs and I'm like jesus fuck no 2016-07-05T03:48:00 < aandrew> I don't mind spiders in the house but you gotta keep them in check or they'll multiply and then it's an issue 2016-07-05T03:48:47 < kakimir> aandrew: those after all need to eat something 2016-07-05T03:48:55 < kakimir> to multiply 2016-07-05T03:49:07 < kakimir> it means there is some little prey for them 2016-07-05T03:49:33 < kakimir> all the little fuckkery you don't like at all 2016-07-05T03:50:50 < kakimir> I'm pretty sure 2016-07-05T03:52:43 < kakimir> isn't iskander the shit R2COM ? 2016-07-05T03:53:21 < kakimir> what does iskender mean btw? 2016-07-05T03:53:55 < kakimir> named after tzar? 2016-07-05T03:56:07 < ReadError> R2COM your comrades still in ukraine?? 2016-07-05T03:56:10 < kakimir> they have marine borders 2016-07-05T03:57:36 < kakimir> but is still on? 2016-07-05T03:59:28 < ReadError> shady 2016-07-05T04:00:03 < ReadError> doesnt seem like theres any reason to hold the area 2016-07-05T04:00:07 < ReadError> all looked pretty shitty 2016-07-05T04:00:15 < ReadError> and fucked up 2016-07-05T04:00:43 < ReadError> well the people in that region speak/identify as russian anyways 2016-07-05T04:00:51 -!- Kuroko [~kvirc@200-148-11-171.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-05T04:01:23 < ReadError> well im sure the war fucked a bunch up 2016-07-05T04:01:25 < ReadError> smart 2016-07-05T04:01:55 < ReadError> did russia ever admit to shooting down that plane 2016-07-05T04:02:55 < ReadError> where? 2016-07-05T04:03:43 < ReadError> aka your cousin? 2016-07-05T04:04:00 < ReadError> do you have ohsix on ignore lol 2016-07-05T04:06:15 < ReadError> stoning 2016-07-05T04:06:39 < ReadError> working on someting 2016-07-05T04:15:30 -!- Kuroko [~kvirc@191.17.158.154] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T04:16:50 < dongs> anyone who doesnt have raging assburgers has ohsix on ignore 2016-07-05T04:39:10 < dongs> fuck no man 2016-07-05T04:39:12 < dongs> i left long time ago 2016-07-05T04:39:57 < dongs> why? i can do exactly same thign here 2016-07-05T04:40:32 < ReadError> hes prolly firing up more than fireworks in alaska 2016-07-05T04:40:38 < ReadError> yaaamean 2016-07-05T04:40:46 < dongs> lol 2016-07-05T04:40:52 < dongs> dude, there were people growing weed 2016-07-05T04:40:57 < dongs> in that place 2016-07-05T04:41:51 < ReadError> well fuck whatelse is there to do in alaska 2016-07-05T04:41:57 < ReadError> besides booze, stone and look for gold 2016-07-05T04:42:01 < dongs> no 2016-07-05T04:42:08 < dongs> you cant even posess alchohol in half the villages 2016-07-05T04:42:11 < dongs> its bant there 2016-07-05T04:42:15 < dongs> you get caught with a bottle you go to jail 2016-07-05T04:42:18 < ReadError> ya but they all still do it 2016-07-05T04:42:49 < dongs> ya if they feel like chiling in jail for a few days 2016-07-05T04:43:05 < ReadError> a lot of villages dont even have real police 2016-07-05T04:43:09 < ReadError> just safety officers 2016-07-05T04:44:15 < dongs> how are you gonna get it home 2016-07-05T04:44:29 < dongs> and what happens when you get drunk and your neighbor snitches on you 2016-07-05T04:45:00 < dongs> yes 2016-07-05T04:45:01 < ReadError> its mostly in the native folk villages tho ? 2016-07-05T04:45:10 < ReadError> the primary whitemurican areas dont do that? 2016-07-05T04:45:12 < dongs> which is like most of alaska outside of anchorage? 2016-07-05T04:45:15 < ReadError> ya 2016-07-05T04:45:16 < dongs> / fairbanks 2016-07-05T04:45:27 < ReadError> nome seems pretty whitetrash 2016-07-05T04:46:50 < dongs> ya nome peeps usually get busted tryin t o export stuff to dry villages 2016-07-05T04:46:51 < dongs> lolz 2016-07-05T04:47:28 < dongs> or people fly there and try to sneak stuff back 2016-07-05T04:47:30 < dongs> and get busted 2016-07-05T04:47:53 < dongs> cuz alcho9hol is fucking bad for you wat, 2016-07-05T04:47:54 < dongs> dont you know 2016-07-05T04:47:58 < ReadError> looks like a hellhole 2016-07-05T04:48:09 < ReadError> would need to be drunk to deal with that shit 2016-07-05T04:49:00 < dongs> no its bad in any qty 2016-07-05T04:49:53 < dongs> water? 2016-07-05T04:49:55 < dongs> tea? 2016-07-05T04:51:13 < dongs> sure you can 2016-07-05T04:51:20 < dongs> make that cunt drink water too 2016-07-05T04:54:02 < dongs> man one thing i dont miss about USA is fucking tipping 2016-07-05T04:54:26 < dongs> service is pretty fucking awful compared to japan too AND you have to tip them for basically being assholes to you 2016-07-05T04:54:29 < dongs> no 2016-07-05T04:55:20 < aandrew> what gets me is when you go to pick up a pizza or something and they want a tip 2016-07-05T04:55:23 < aandrew> I'm like wut 2016-07-05T04:55:47 < dongs> tip cuz they were too fucking lazy to bring shit to you for free 2016-07-05T04:56:00 < aandrew> we do almost everything with debit/credit cards so the machines are set up to tip becuase htey're shared with the actual sit down restaurant part 2016-07-05T04:56:16 < aandrew> for the most part, you still run into the odd pizza place that's JUST pickup/delivery and their machine is set up to tip 2016-07-05T04:56:19 < aandrew> uh, $0, thanks 2016-07-05T04:56:44 < aandrew> me either 2016-07-05T04:56:51 < dongs> why? 2016-07-05T04:56:52 < aandrew> what I'm saying is the machine is set up for tip 2016-07-05T04:56:54 < dongs> you already paid for delivery 2016-07-05T04:56:55 < dongs> fuck that shit 2016-07-05T04:57:07 < aandrew> they give you the machine, it says $20, you hit ok, then it says "enter tip" and I"m like fuck that, $0 2016-07-05T04:57:28 < dongs> if you ordered and estimated arrival was 30 minutes, but they delivered it in 3, MAYBE i'll consider to tip thetm 2016-07-05T04:57:31 < aandrew> yeah if there is no delivery charge, I tip the driver. if there's a delivery charge than fuck that, he's got his money 2016-07-05T04:57:34 < dongs> but if i order shit and it has a delivery charge 2016-07-05T04:57:38 < dongs> and the asshole shows up late 2016-07-05T04:57:41 < dongs> he can go fuck himself 2016-07-05T04:57:43 < aandrew> unless he is like speedy gonzales or is otherwise amazing, he's already been paid 2016-07-05T04:59:17 < ReadError> you should tip the driver 2016-07-05T04:59:24 < ReadError> they get like 1$ a delivery 2016-07-05T04:59:32 < ReadError> from the charge 2016-07-05T04:59:43 < aandrew> that's ridiculous 2016-07-05T04:59:49 < aandrew> the whole idea of tipping is nuts tbh 2016-07-05T05:00:11 < ReadError> yea but its the system thats in place currently 2016-07-05T05:00:30 < aandrew> R2COM: yeah that's a thing too 2016-07-05T05:00:45 < aandrew> I give $0 and then at the end of hte stay if they keep on top of shit I'll give them some money 2016-07-05T05:00:46 < ReadError> ill leave money in a room if i destroy it 2016-07-05T05:00:50 < ReadError> or its extra messy 2016-07-05T05:01:10 < ReadError> and beers in the frige 2016-07-05T05:01:13 < ReadError> fridge* 2016-07-05T05:01:37 < upgrdman> hmm that might be like the only positive thing i can think of in cn, not tipping at restaurants 2016-07-05T05:01:54 < aandrew> I almost never tip for hotel, wife is paranoid and a guy I used to work with (he was a west-coaster) felt that if you didn't tip they'd steal shit 2016-07-05T05:02:32 < ReadError> oh 2016-07-05T05:02:47 < ReadError> if its cleaning crew shit, i leave the do not disturb thing on the door 2016-07-05T05:03:12 < upgrdman> R2COM, i've had people give me money back (the tip) thinking i accidentally overpaid 2016-07-05T05:03:25 < upgrdman> like water delivery guy, etc. even they usually wont take a tip 2016-07-05T05:03:27 < aandrew> ReadError: that's what I typically do 2016-07-05T05:03:39 < aandrew> I odn't need you making my bed or straightening up eveyr day or even once a week 2016-07-05T05:03:46 < aandrew> I'll take care of my own shit, stay out of the room 2016-07-05T05:04:00 < ReadError> lol why 2016-07-05T05:04:05 < ReadError> its a PITA to take it apart 2016-07-05T05:04:08 < ReadError> so many pillows 2016-07-05T05:04:12 < upgrdman> starch your pillows, lol 2016-07-05T05:04:18 < aandrew> I fucking HATE how they tuck in the blankets under the fucking mattress 2016-07-05T05:04:33 < ReadError> ya its so tight 2016-07-05T05:04:36 < aandrew> first thing I do is pull all htat shit out so I can sleep not feeling like I've been vacuum-packed into the bed 2016-07-05T05:04:38 < ReadError> you gotta pull all that shit up 2016-07-05T05:04:42 < PeterM> you get in the bed withotu pulling it apart first and you are sleepign in a straightjacket 2016-07-05T05:04:52 < PeterM> that shit is fucked 2016-07-05T05:05:09 < aandrew> I expect that's exactly what a grocery store steak feels like 2016-07-05T05:05:40 < upgrdman> R2COM, pro tip i learned: NEVER EVER wash your own bedsheets in a hotel. i did not want to see what the mattress stains looked like :/ 2016-07-05T05:06:05 < aandrew> something like this,a ctually: https://gfycat.com/UnawareMeaslyAmericanbobtail 2016-07-05T05:06:22 < upgrdman> looks like someone played a game of Asteroids with urine 2016-07-05T05:06:25 < dongs> fucking japs 2016-07-05T05:06:31 < upgrdman> fucking like 20 stains all over the fucking place 2016-07-05T05:07:32 < PeterM> upgrdman, hotels here arent retatrdds, they use white linen and bleach that shit 2016-07-05T05:07:51 < ReadError> PeterM the mattress itself 2016-07-05T05:08:07 < PeterM> thats fair 2016-07-05T05:08:07 < upgrdman> PeterM, they do that here too 2016-07-05T05:08:13 < upgrdman> im talking the mattress 2016-07-05T05:08:14 < PeterM> the mattress i understand 2016-07-05T05:08:24 < upgrdman> i pulled off the sheet. i regret seeing the mattress. 2016-07-05T05:08:35 < ReadError> the one in china? 2016-07-05T05:08:43 < upgrdman> ReadError, ya 2016-07-05T05:08:53 < ReadError> i can imagine 2016-07-05T05:08:59 < ReadError> they allow smoking indoors too? 2016-07-05T05:09:13 < upgrdman> R2COM, i wanted clean sheets and i forgot to ask one of my coworkers to ask the hotel to service my room. so i washed the sheets myself 2016-07-05T05:09:33 < PeterM> usually they put like a sheet of plastic on top of the mattress then a big blanket and then a mattress protector so people can do all the waterworks they want 2016-07-05T05:09:47 < upgrdman> ReadError, i think so. but my room doesnt smell like cigarettes, but some hallways smell like that 2016-07-05T05:10:30 < ReadError> i heard bedbugs too 2016-07-05T05:10:34 < upgrdman> R2COM, china is dirty. i like clean sheets. just walking around here and your legs get dirty as fuck from the shit on the ground 2016-07-05T05:10:38 < ReadError> can fuck you if you stay in a lot of hotels 2016-07-05T05:10:43 < ReadError> bring them home in your bag 2016-07-05T05:11:21 < upgrdman> yes 2016-07-05T05:11:25 < upgrdman> blog on 2016-07-05T05:12:07 < upgrdman> ya i check for bug, didnt see any or any evidence of them. i was worried about that too considering what the locals consider "clean enough" 2016-07-05T05:12:16 < PeterM> i have stayed in some expensive hotels in china, or atleast above average - they were fuckign trash 2016-07-05T05:12:24 * upgrdman nods 2016-07-05T05:12:36 < upgrdman> nice is cn and nice in 1st world are WORLDS APART 2016-07-05T05:12:45 < ReadError> http://wtnh.com/2016/06/29/clinton-drone-teen-arrested-for-child-porn/ 2016-07-05T05:12:47 < ReadError> omg 2016-07-05T05:12:49 < ReadError> loooooool 2016-07-05T05:13:04 < upgrdman> *in cn 2016-07-05T05:13:55 < PeterM> ya, and even if you pay mroe you dont really get that much better, like $300 us a night and i was still getting stained sheets, shitstains in hte toilet, burn marks o nthe carpet kinda thing 2016-07-05T05:14:15 < PeterM> in cn ^ 2016-07-05T05:14:34 < upgrdman> :) 2016-07-05T05:15:39 < upgrdman> my issue is that in a hotel, their idea of cleaning is sweeping the floor and changing the sheets/towels. but they like never actually clean. mildew and shit in the shower area, etc. dirty tabletops/walls, etc. 2016-07-05T05:15:58 < aandrew> heh my wife wants 4* minimum hotels, I sleep in pretty much anything 2016-07-05T05:15:58 < PeterM> ^^^^^^^ 2016-07-05T05:16:15 < PeterM> aandrew, 4* in china is like 2* anywhere else 2016-07-05T05:16:22 < aandrew> I don't doubt it 2016-07-05T05:16:43 < aandrew> when I was in HK it was a 5* hotel 2016-07-05T05:16:45 < aandrew> really nice 2016-07-05T05:17:03 < aandrew> I think HK is like the british china 2016-07-05T05:17:19 < PeterM> in hk things scale a bit better wiht money than in china 2016-07-05T05:17:20 < aandrew> I had a fucking $200 steak there becaue I fucked up the exchange and thought it was a decent deal 2016-07-05T05:17:29 < aandrew> it wasn't a great steak either, ruth's chris or someshit 2016-07-05T05:17:57 < dongs> great 2016-07-05T05:18:00 < PeterM> general rule: dont get western food in most of asia, ytou will be dissapointed. 2016-07-05T05:18:03 < aandrew> in japan you get those cube things 2016-07-05T05:18:04 < dongs> around 40-45bux is decent 2016-07-05T05:18:08 < dongs> fuck cube shit 2016-07-05T05:18:30 < aandrew> yeah well I was on my own, wasn't going ot take any chances 2016-07-05T05:18:46 < aandrew> when I was with my coworkers it was good, I had all kinds of asian food that was awesome 2016-07-05T05:19:13 < aandrew> and a guy dongs and I know htat lives in my town is responsible for my getting over my general squeamishness with "weird" food 2016-07-05T05:19:20 < PeterM> R2COM, western food including pasta, steak, roasts, etc all sucks right? 2016-07-05T05:19:28 < aandrew> we'd do chinese hotpot, tons and tons of korean food, viet, etc. 2016-07-05T05:19:34 < aandrew> the only thing I can't really do is fucking tripe man 2016-07-05T05:19:43 < PeterM> R2COM, sux2bu 2016-07-05T05:19:53 < aandrew> to this day one of my favourite foods is dolsot bibimbap 2016-07-05T05:20:18 < PeterM> yeah, and somehow they still manage to fuck it up 2016-07-05T05:21:40 < PeterM> ya but after a while of eating chicken and fish sometiems you want soem good beef 2016-07-05T05:22:10 < PeterM> speakin of food, lunchtime. 2016-07-05T05:37:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-05T05:39:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T05:53:50 < emeb_mac> NASA TV - a parade of nervous nerds. 2016-07-05T05:54:02 < emeb_mac> everyone wear your gray polo shirts! 2016-07-05T05:59:28 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-07-05T05:59:36 < emeb_mac> wouldn't want to offend anyone 2016-07-05T06:14:40 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/o4pUFOE.png 2016-07-05T06:27:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Java/Wowza-Media-Server-Installation/ 2016-07-05T06:29:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Curing-Oven/ 2016-07-05T06:29:07 < dongs> freecancer 2016-07-05T06:38:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T06:49:22 < dongs> lol 2016-07-05T07:02:30 < ReadError> just install ubuntu or some noob shit 2016-07-05T07:03:19 < ReadError> once you install vmware tools shit should just work 2016-07-05T07:04:02 < ReadError> yes 2016-07-05T07:04:24 < ReadError> player is free 2016-07-05T07:04:39 < ReadError> boo fucking hoo 2016-07-05T07:04:45 < ReadError> turn it off 2016-07-05T07:04:48 < ReadError> copy the files 2016-07-05T07:04:51 < ReadError> turn it back on 2016-07-05T07:05:07 < ReadError> the vmdk/vmx 2016-07-05T07:05:13 < ReadError> use a thin image 2016-07-05T07:05:19 < ReadError> grow as needed 2016-07-05T07:05:33 < ReadError> not really 2016-07-05T07:06:22 < ReadError> https://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsp_4_thinprov_perf.pdf 2016-07-05T07:06:48 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/hpiPu0X.png 2016-07-05T07:07:34 < ReadError> did u install vmware tools? 2016-07-05T07:07:40 < ReadError> or u using vbox trash 2016-07-05T07:08:05 < ReadError> oh fuckoff then 2016-07-05T07:13:39 < dongs> genitop shitheads sent me keil .lib and .h 2016-07-05T07:13:44 < dongs> for the fucking font rom 2016-07-05T07:16:12 < englishman> i installed ubuntu today 2016-07-05T07:16:15 < englishman> went to install chrome 2016-07-05T07:16:17 < englishman> installer crashed 2016-07-05T07:16:20 < englishman> mouse froze 2016-07-05T07:16:22 < englishman> reboot 2016-07-05T07:16:25 < englishman> 10/10 2016-07-05T07:18:16 < dongs> i remember i installed ubunto in VM 2016-07-05T07:18:21 < dongs> like CURRENT LATEST VERSION 2016-07-05T07:18:29 < dongs> and on fucking boot, its complaining about some memory leaks/something not working 2016-07-05T07:18:32 < dongs> i mean 2016-07-05T07:18:33 < dongs> how the FUCK 2016-07-05T07:18:35 < dongs> do you release something 2016-07-05T07:18:42 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T07:18:46 < dongs> when the first fucking thing you see after login is xxx leaking memory 2016-07-05T07:18:51 < dongs> and you still go ahead and fucking release it 2016-07-05T07:18:54 < dongs> ?????????????? 2016-07-05T07:19:29 < dongs> mind boggling faggotry 2016-07-05T07:20:16 < ReadError> just install wheezy with desktop 2016-07-05T07:20:41 < dongs> "wheezy" 2016-07-05T07:20:44 < dongs> what a fucking professional name 2016-07-05T07:20:58 < dongs> hey faggot what is this shit youre running on your company desktop 2016-07-05T07:21:04 < dongs> its "DEBIAN WHEEZY" 2016-07-05T07:21:06 < ReadError> suicide lunix 2016-07-05T07:21:07 < dongs> youre fucking fired 2016-07-05T07:26:59 < dongs> ywhy dude? 2016-07-05T07:27:03 < dongs> when I say I dont run lunix 2016-07-05T07:27:04 < dongs> i fucking mean it 2016-07-05T07:27:10 < dongs> i mean i have like 3-4 default installs VMs 2016-07-05T07:27:15 < dongs> that I boot once a month to do some lunix trash 2016-07-05T07:27:23 < dongs> why hte fuck would you want a desktop/ sound/etc in VM 2016-07-05T07:28:06 < dongs> im pretty sure XYCE doesnt need any fucking sound 2016-07-05T07:28:08 < dongs> no idea 2016-07-05T07:28:14 < ReadError> why does ur host machine suck so bad you have to run xfce ? 2016-07-05T07:28:17 < dongs> because they're lazy cunts 2016-07-05T07:28:27 < dongs> xyce is gnu/gpl, just compile it for windows 2016-07-05T07:28:46 < dongs> For Windows systems, the Xyce project team uses the Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/) system to provide a Unix-like environment with Unix-style tools. While it is possible to build Xyce using native Windows tools, the team does not support that approach in this release. 2016-07-05T07:28:54 < dongs> looks like you can just run it on windows anyway 2016-07-05T07:28:58 < dongs> since its some CLI faggotry 2016-07-05T07:29:32 < ReadError> mobaxterm 2016-07-05T07:29:51 < ReadError> it keeps itself contained 2016-07-05T07:29:54 < ReadError> even a portable install 2016-07-05T07:35:21 < englishman> install win10 in a VM, then install cygwin in that 2016-07-05T07:36:13 < PeterM> http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1467679167949.webm lol totally Laurenceb 2016-07-05T07:45:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-05T07:45:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T07:49:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T07:53:55 < dongs> < R2COM> you think its a good idea to put cygwin shit on my clean win10 machine? 2016-07-05T07:53:57 < dongs> definitely not 2016-07-05T07:54:02 < dongs> < englishman> install win10 in a VM, then install cygwin in that 2016-07-05T07:54:03 < dongs> yes 2016-07-05T07:54:04 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T07:54:14 < dongs> i actually have a win7x64 machine like that 2016-07-05T07:54:18 < dongs> that i use to "install" shit 2016-07-05T07:54:22 < dongs> that fucking demands an installer 2016-07-05T07:54:24 < dongs> for a single .exe app 2016-07-05T07:54:26 < dongs> fucking garbage 2016-07-05T07:55:44 < dongs> win10 2016-07-05T07:55:47 < dongs> done 2016-07-05T07:56:19 < englishman> then problem solved 2016-07-05T07:57:14 < dongs> ADS? arm developer suite? they still sell that? 2016-07-05T07:57:31 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-05T07:57:34 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-05T07:57:35 < dongs> i used that in like 1998 2016-07-05T07:57:37 < dongs> it was garbage 2016-07-05T07:57:40 < dongs> k 2016-07-05T07:57:42 < dongs> different trash then 2016-07-05T07:57:47 < englishman> rf shit 2016-07-05T07:57:54 < englishman> pretty handy 2016-07-05T07:58:20 < dongs> you should teach R2BRO how to install pirated copy in a win10 VM 2016-07-05T07:58:48 -!- Kuroko [~kvirc@191.17.158.154] has left ##stm32 ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 2016-07-05T07:58:53 < ReadError> first pirate vmware workstation 12 pro 2016-07-05T07:58:57 < englishman> no its funny watching lunix fail over and over again consistently throughout the years 2016-07-05T07:59:01 < ReadError> hint: no crack needed 2016-07-05T07:59:35 < englishman> is ads not available at r2job 2016-07-05T07:59:49 < englishman> uh, win 10.1 of course 2016-07-05T08:07:51 < ReadError> doesnt everyone? 2016-07-05T08:08:42 < ReadError> wtf are you trying to do anyways 2016-07-05T08:33:12 -!- anton03 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T08:33:12 -!- anton03 is now known as anton02 2016-07-05T08:33:34 < anton02> [23:02] venom: You are a drooling moron. 2016-07-05T08:33:34 < anton02> [23:03] Zhivago: i am an idiot with brain cancer who is going to die in months =D 2016-07-05T08:33:34 < anton02> [23:03] venum: I suggest being quiet in the meanwhile. 2016-07-05T08:39:33 < ReadError> said the guy that cant tab complete a nick ? 2016-07-05T08:42:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-05T08:50:56 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T08:53:02 < dongs> IDA'ing china .lib 2016-07-05T08:53:39 < dongs> that font chip is > 2mb flash 2016-07-05T08:58:56 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/fcbNMi93.html ida is pretty good 2016-07-05T09:06:11 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T09:14:46 < jadew> dongs, also looks like they forgot debugging symbols on 2016-07-05T09:15:15 < dongs> no i renamed that 2016-07-05T09:15:22 < jadew> ah 2016-07-05T09:15:53 < dongs> but it was super simple anyway. 2016-07-05T09:15:56 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-05T09:15:59 < dongs> i have the api header 2016-07-05T09:20:24 < anton02> do you like cities skylines 2016-07-05T09:20:34 < dongs> i played it for ~5 minutes 2016-07-05T09:20:50 < dongs> then forgot about it 2016-07-05T09:22:56 < anton02> the art is a bit sterile looking 2016-07-05T09:24:34 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T09:36:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T09:38:18 < dongs> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=829_1467670625 this is how R2COM parties 2016-07-05T09:39:56 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T09:40:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T09:42:37 < jadew> dongs, nobody died? 2016-07-05T09:42:47 < dongs> i hope at least someone did 2016-07-05T09:44:04 < jadew> read a comment that was implying that nobody did 2016-07-05T09:44:37 < dongs> you know what would be kinda funny 2016-07-05T09:44:42 < dongs> if that thing tipped over 2016-07-05T09:44:45 < dongs> and dumped most retards 2016-07-05T09:44:47 < dongs> then spring back 2016-07-05T09:44:52 < dongs> wiht like 1-2 assholes still remaining in teh thing 2016-07-05T09:44:55 < dongs> and send them out flying 2016-07-05T09:45:01 < jadew> lol 2016-07-05T09:45:26 < dongs> but i guess since it tipped in teh first place probably not enough weight on the back to right itself 2016-07-05T09:46:10 < jadew> ohsix, again? where? 2016-07-05T09:46:57 < dongs> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cc_1182884853 this is how ohsix parties 2016-07-05T09:48:16 < jadew> I can't watch that 2016-07-05T09:48:21 < dongs> yea you can 2016-07-05T09:48:22 < dongs> its hilarious 2016-07-05T09:48:26 < jadew> wtf is wrong with those kids 2016-07-05T09:48:39 < dongs> not enough legal weed 2016-07-05T09:48:40 < jadew> I paused it after he's pouring gasoline on his pants 2016-07-05T09:48:47 < dongs> oh, it gets better 2016-07-05T09:48:50 < dongs> trust me 2016-07-05T09:50:28 < jadew> ok, watched it, that was trully stupid 2016-07-05T09:50:45 < dongs> thus my video comment 2016-07-05T09:53:59 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-hqqfizpimoqejnnl] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-05T09:53:59 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T09:54:41 -!- kimmoli [~kl@194.100.69.195] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-05T09:56:47 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T10:01:33 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-05T10:02:03 < jadew> comment from a liveleak video: "every brazilian is destined to die violently, one even came here uk where there are no guns and got shot over 6 times in his head by our cops who also dont carry guns, god has cursed that country." 2016-07-05T10:03:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec29cba-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T10:04:03 < dongs> isnt brazil hosting olympics this year 2016-07-05T10:04:33 < jadew> dongs, probably local olympics, I can't see a lot of people rushing in 2016-07-05T10:04:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-05T10:04:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: IceChat - Its what Cool People use] 2016-07-05T10:04:59 < dongs> what olympics is going now? 2016-07-05T10:05:04 < dongs> i thought rio was brazil 2016-07-05T10:05:06 < dongs> or wahtever thefuck 2016-07-05T10:05:08 < dongs> i dont keep track 2016-07-05T10:05:31 < jadew> dongs, I was just joking, in the sense that nobody will want to go there 2016-07-05T10:05:31 < dongs> Host cityRio de Janeiro, Brazil 2016-07-05T10:05:46 < dongs> had to google cuz really dont know/care 2016-07-05T10:06:17 < jadew> ohsix, what are those? 2016-07-05T10:08:23 < dongs> golf is olympic sport now? heh 2016-07-05T10:08:30 < jadew> like they can't take the battle scooters 2016-07-05T10:08:46 < jadew> dongs, they have golf at the olympics? 2016-07-05T10:09:08 < dongs> With 306 sets of medals, the games will feature 28 Olympic sports — including rugby sevens and golf, which were added by the International Olympic Committee in 2009. 2016-07-05T10:09:12 < dongs> according to kikepedia yea 2016-07-05T10:09:43 < jadew> that's... weird 2016-07-05T10:09:54 < jadew> football has its own thing 2016-07-05T10:10:08 < jadew> I don't see why rugby would be any different 2016-07-05T10:10:48 < jadew> or golf for that matter, somehow they don't fit with the other sports 2016-07-05T10:16:02 < dongs> hm. i think if im gonna dickstart supercharger i better make very port qc2.0 capable 2016-07-05T10:16:06 < dongs> every 2016-07-05T10:16:21 < jadew> http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/what-makes-salvador-brazil-most-violent-city 2016-07-05T10:17:16 < jadew> apparently they have gangs that originated in prisons to defend prisoner's rights and take revenge for the offences of other prisoners _or guards_ 2016-07-05T10:18:40 < jadew> strange situation, I wonder how it will develop 2016-07-05T10:20:47 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-32.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T10:20:58 < jadew> they do 2016-07-05T10:21:10 < jadew> it says on that page that they use facebook to show arsenal and claim neighbourhoods 2016-07-05T10:22:13 < dongs> ohsix: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-07-05T10:23:33 < jadew> ohsix, I noticed 2016-07-05T10:27:52 < jadew> the problem with candy crash is that it's not a new game 2016-07-05T10:28:16 < jadew> but they had a good implementation and then everyone started copying theirs 2016-07-05T10:29:17 < jadew> ohsix, speaking of games, I was looking for some games on my phone and noticed there are worms games from team 17th (the original company) 2016-07-05T10:29:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.194] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T10:29:50 < jadew> and then there are other "Worms at war" or something silly like that from a company called "The 17th Pixel" :D 2016-07-05T10:29:57 < dongs> jadew: so what 2016-07-05T10:30:10 < dongs> jadew: there was boulderdash on assdroid (or pc? I forget) made by SSI 2016-07-05T10:30:14 < dongs> it was fucking garbage 2016-07-05T10:31:08 < dongs> SSI or firststarsftware or wahtever was original publishes of that shit on C64/wahtever 2016-07-05T10:39:55 < jadew> ohsix, what is juno? 2016-07-05T10:40:20 < jadew> oh, he's live now 2016-07-05T10:40:25 < jadew> ah 2016-07-05T10:40:25 < jadew> no 2016-07-05T10:40:29 < dongs> yes 2016-07-05T10:40:32 < dongs> that 2016-07-05T10:40:38 < dongs> something or other 2016-07-05T10:40:40 < dongs> they do 2016-07-05T10:40:44 < dongs> that's weird 2016-07-05T10:40:49 < dongs> stoners, thats what 2016-07-05T10:40:55 < dongs> autism levels: all time high 2016-07-05T10:41:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T10:41:24 < dongs> upgrdman: quick, do somethign intersting. 2016-07-05T10:41:30 < dongs> channel is taken over by autism 2016-07-05T10:41:35 < jadew> ohsix, nice 2016-07-05T10:41:39 < upgrdman> dongs, hmm 2016-07-05T10:42:33 < upgrdman> well today i made some production test equipment with perf board + DIPs + shut 2016-07-05T10:42:36 < upgrdman> shit* 2016-07-05T10:42:41 < upgrdman> felt super non-pro 2016-07-05T10:43:16 < dongs> better whan what ohsix did today 2016-07-05T10:43:33 < dongs> which is watch unfunny american TV, jerk off, and expand his knowledge in some retarded subject he will never use in real life 2016-07-05T10:43:46 < dongs> i did some dicknplacing this morning and raged at chink stencils 2016-07-05T10:44:32 < upgrdman> oh ya, so anyone else use the half-size IDC ribbon cable shits? like not 0.1" but 0.05" header type. 2016-07-05T10:44:42 < upgrdman> the lpc-link2 trash uses them 2016-07-05T10:44:51 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-05T10:44:52 < upgrdman> and it seems like i cant find a ribbon cable that isnt total shit 2016-07-05T10:44:53 < dongs> thats al i use 2016-07-05T10:44:57 < dongs> upgrdman: chinagirl has htem 2016-07-05T10:45:01 < upgrdman> like flex it a bit, and it shorts wires together 2016-07-05T10:45:01 -!- marble_visions [~user@89.190.193.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T10:45:04 < dongs> they were liek 10 for $2 or someshit 2016-07-05T10:45:12 < dongs> solid stuff, zero issues 2016-07-05T10:45:15 < upgrdman> wonder if i got unlucky twice or if its because china 2016-07-05T10:45:25 < upgrdman> ok so im just unlucky 2016-07-05T10:45:30 < dongs> mine get bent all the time cuz i made the jtag adapter wrong 2016-07-05T10:45:41 < dongs> so the 1.27mm pitch thing cable goes in with teh cable facing another connector 2016-07-05T10:45:57 < upgrdman> fuck, and its pooring rain in shanghai. like 15 mins before i get to go home. 2016-07-05T10:46:04 < dongs> ownt 2016-07-05T10:46:07 < jadew> I use those too, but I don't like them much 2016-07-05T10:46:32 < jadew> they're great for saving space tho 2016-07-05T10:47:44 < upgrdman> dongs, any idea if the idc connector can be reused? i think its alignment issue. or will trying to unseat it fuck it up 2016-07-05T10:47:59 < jadew> it can be reused 2016-07-05T10:48:02 < upgrdman> e.g. i want to cut off the end and try on some clean portion of ribbon 2016-07-05T10:48:03 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-05T10:48:04 < jadew> but you have to be careful 2016-07-05T10:48:15 < jadew> you can break those plastic clips that hold it together 2016-07-05T10:49:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-05T10:52:10 -!- anton02 [~anton03@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T10:52:23 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T10:54:47 < dongs> upgrdman: nah just toss the shit, you can literally just buy a cable with idc on both ends 2016-07-05T10:54:56 < dongs> ive never seen one fall apart, you probly just got garbage 2016-07-05T10:55:09 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-05T10:55:21 < upgrdman> ya these connectors look like 3 or 5 degrees off axis 2016-07-05T10:55:32 < dongs> http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=4517 2016-07-05T10:55:37 < upgrdman> prolly some n00b made them 2016-07-05T10:55:38 < jadew> I bought a roll of ribbon cable and a bunch of connectors from china and they're fine 2016-07-05T10:55:38 < dongs> this is chinashit im certain 2016-07-05T10:56:27 < jadew> upgrdman, any chance you screwed up? 2016-07-05T10:56:33 < upgrdman> i didnt make them 2016-07-05T10:56:37 < jadew> tbh, I don't see how an IDC connector can fail you 2016-07-05T10:56:38 < jadew> ah 2016-07-05T10:56:40 < upgrdman> some girl in shenzhen prolly did 2016-07-05T10:56:53 < dongs> yeah, i dont see once its put together how it can fall apart 2016-07-05T10:57:23 < upgrdman> ya its not falling apart, just looks like it was pressed on at an angle, so the forks are like raping nearly two wires at once 2016-07-05T10:57:35 < dongs> terrible 2016-07-05T10:57:45 < jadew> yeah, that would do it 2016-07-05T10:57:47 < upgrdman> not yet, prolly in a month or so when the current projects simmer down 2016-07-05T10:58:18 < upgrdman> lpc1768 jtag fuckery 2016-07-05T10:59:42 < upgrdman> time to go "home". bbiab. 2016-07-05T10:59:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T11:03:06 < dongs> "home" = jizzstain covered hotel room 2016-07-05T11:03:49 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@94.198.136.243] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T11:08:58 < dongs> https://gigglehd.com/zbxe/files/attach/images/1404665/294/679/013/c3534ece07186b662566c854fbfa3c70.jpg lol @ logo 2016-07-05T11:09:36 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@94.198.136.243] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-05T11:10:15 < anton02> lol@ website name 2016-07-05T11:12:06 < dongs> hmm 2016-07-05T11:12:10 < dongs> the QC ic is kinda dumb 2016-07-05T11:12:20 < dongs> max Vin 2.9 to 5.5V (for running off single cell lipos/5V i uggess) 2016-07-05T11:12:25 < dongs> but it will boost to 5/9/12V 2016-07-05T11:12:48 < dongs> kinda a waste if im gonna be running this shit off 19V laptop brick 2016-07-05T11:13:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.160] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T11:14:23 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/get-scammed-quickly/1986585_32613353036.html < MI4C for $120 2016-07-05T11:25:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-05T11:52:24 < c10ud^> adm2687ebriz to italy in < 7days anyone? 2016-07-05T11:53:23 < dongs> lets see 2016-07-05T11:53:28 < dongs> do you wanna pay for fedex? 2016-07-05T11:54:13 < dongs> how many you need? 2016-07-05T11:54:20 < c10ud^> I think I just need a commercial invoice and price 2016-07-05T11:54:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.66] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T11:54:27 < c10ud^> 100 2016-07-05T11:55:26 < dongs> checking 2016-07-05T11:55:27 < c10ud^> because, damn sales dept 2016-07-05T11:55:45 < c10ud^> otherwise I would just have bought from china or farnell in 10 days I guess 2016-07-05T12:00:40 < dongs> c10ud^: china has no stock either. only about 20pcs for $7 2016-07-05T12:00:45 < dongs> nobody has 100. 2016-07-05T12:01:05 < c10ud^> yea, looks like there's a shortage worldwide 2016-07-05T12:01:12 < c10ud^> thx dongs 2016-07-05T12:01:16 < dongs> yep sorry 2016-07-05T12:01:25 < c10ud^> I think I will get them from farnell in 10 days 2016-07-05T12:01:58 < dongs> which one has them? 2016-07-05T12:02:27 < dongs> cuz i dont see it stocked on uk/us farnell 2016-07-05T12:03:11 < dongs> Please note that this product is not in stock. You may place a pre-order by clicking the buy button or register interest by clicking the 'Contact me when back in stock' link. 2016-07-05T12:03:22 < c10ud^> no stock, but restocking in 10 days 2016-07-05T12:03:26 < dongs> oh 2016-07-05T12:03:34 < dongs> do they actually do 10 days like they say 2016-07-05T12:03:37 < dongs> or is it digikey 10 days 2016-07-05T12:03:41 < dongs> when it means "10 weeks" 2016-07-05T12:04:43 < c10ud^> idk honestly, but they say they're coming in each week a little bit more till september 2016-07-05T12:05:06 < c10ud^> like, 100 in 10 days, 700 in a month 2016-07-05T12:05:15 < dongs> ah 2016-07-05T12:07:21 < dongs> i still have a couple places checking. but yeah doesnt look good 2016-07-05T12:08:50 < marble_visions> ohsix: related: http://thesiteformerlyknownas.zachtronicsindustries.com/?p=710 2016-07-05T12:09:25 < Steffanx> This is bad, im infected. Every time i have to work with a rigol some voice in my head says: riglol, same applies to kicad en linux. 2016-07-05T12:09:29 < Steffanx> Screw you dongs. 2016-07-05T12:09:33 < dongs> haha 2016-07-05T12:09:51 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T12:09:56 < dongs> i mistype kikecad everyime i write it 2016-07-05T12:10:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T12:10:34 < dongs> not on purpose either 2016-07-05T12:10:43 < dongs> upgrdman: "home" = jizz-stained hotel room? 2016-07-05T12:10:53 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-05T12:11:03 < jpa-> Steffanx: yeah, i've been infected with kikecad and lunix also; not riglol yet :) 2016-07-05T12:12:13 < dongs> c10ud^: another guy with 100 @ $9.47, 1 day leadtime tho (in some shitty negro province). 2016-07-05T12:12:14 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T12:12:18 < dongs> 2015 datecode. 2016-07-05T12:12:54 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-05T12:13:51 < dongs> what did they do to you 2016-07-05T12:14:17 < dongs> i still ahve that free easybraid sleepy stand 2016-07-05T12:14:23 < Shavik> Anyone have experience with I2S and DMA along with the HAL / Cube junk? Can't seem to properly get my 24 bit (32 bit frame) samples stored properly. I'm using uint16_t as type of the buffer and I've set in Cube the Datawidth to halfword. I'd expect the RxHalfComplete callback to fire at the sample rate, (after every L channel) since my DMA buffer size is 4. (2 16 bit half words per sample * 2 channels) 2016-07-05T12:14:26 < dongs> when digikey sent me one and it got busted in transit 2016-07-05T12:14:33 < dongs> so I bitched and they fedex'd me a free replacement 2016-07-05T12:14:42 < dongs> while waiting i just superglued the busted one together 2016-07-05T12:14:47 < dongs> niiice 2016-07-05T12:16:55 < Steffanx> Tried to solder own power supply crt? 2016-07-05T12:19:33 < Shavik> OH! because it's expecting you to swap the buffers 2016-07-05T12:26:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T12:32:35 < ReadError> was it the wrong hand piece ? 2016-07-05T12:34:05 < ReadError> i like mine 2016-07-05T12:34:11 < ReadError> plus 3 year warranty 2016-07-05T12:34:21 < ReadError> if i get my use out of it im happy 2016-07-05T12:34:43 < upgrdman> wuts a tt system? 2016-07-05T12:35:06 < ReadError> o wait, 4 year 2016-07-05T12:36:44 < ReadError> http://www.thermaltronics.com/tmt-9000s.php this upgrdman 2016-07-05T12:36:52 < ReadError> they are like $350 on ebay 2016-07-05T12:37:25 < ReadError> shit i bet you can get a deal on one in .cn 2016-07-05T12:38:17 < upgrdman> im extremely happy with my hakko 888, i guess im east to plz 2016-07-05T12:38:32 < upgrdman> easy* 2016-07-05T12:38:35 < ReadError> once you use the metcal style shit for so long 2016-07-05T12:38:41 < ReadError> you cant hold that 888 handle 2016-07-05T12:38:59 < ReadError> feels like a hotdog in a bun 2016-07-05T12:40:13 < marble_visions> hi guys, i finally got my hands on a proper test case. my issue is that i can use a pin with a timer in pwm mode, but in output compare mode it doesn't work 2016-07-05T12:40:55 < upgrdman> i am kinda tempted to buy one of those legit china fluke dmms 2016-07-05T12:41:49 < upgrdman> no but i havnt looked yet 2016-07-05T12:41:53 < marble_visions> CCMR2_Output = 0x50, CCMR2_Input = 0x50; 2016-07-05T12:41:58 < marble_visions> jpa-: 2016-07-05T12:42:17 < upgrdman> ya or the one thats like 2usd more with exposed button 2016-07-05T12:43:26 < upgrdman> my issue is i want like 9999 counts or more, and iirc the china flukes are like 2999 or some shit 2016-07-05T12:43:45 < upgrdman> err add a 9 to both of those. 2016-07-05T12:43:58 < upgrdman> i want 99999 2016-07-05T12:44:12 < upgrdman> im spoled by 6.5digit bench dmm 2016-07-05T12:44:32 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-05T12:45:56 < upgrdman> pleb 2016-07-05T12:51:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-05T12:55:48 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T12:57:09 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/POWERBANK-DESIGN/ 2016-07-05T12:57:11 < dongs> lol. 2016-07-05T12:57:21 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Graphic-Design/Build-the-next-herb-smoking/ 2016-07-05T12:57:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-05T12:57:27 < dongs> job 4 readstoner 2016-07-05T12:58:03 < Ultrasauce> internet of vapes 2016-07-05T12:59:23 < Steffanx> Isnt rob more into vaping? 2016-07-05T12:59:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-05T13:00:24 < dongs> Rob225 or wahtever 2016-07-05T13:00:28 < dongs> the stoner that comes here with some dumb quadcopter 2016-07-05T13:00:45 < ReadError> which one 2016-07-05T13:04:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-32.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-05T13:06:08 < dongs> super low quality shit @ freecancer these last few days 2016-07-05T13:12:01 < ReadError> make an alt account and trollfish 2016-07-05T13:15:58 < Steffanx> Crt is my favourite stoner. 2016-07-05T13:16:34 < Steffanx> CloneRTronics? 2016-07-05T13:17:51 < ReadError> dabtime 2016-07-05T13:18:26 < Steffanx> *fap ? 2016-07-05T13:21:47 < Laurenceb__> sup 2016-07-05T13:22:02 < Laurenceb__> yup my "fave" 2016-07-05T13:24:09 < Laurenceb__> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRz3NWiUotPyXnby8e3mKJNKibgDLAqy-QyDiQSlpFhISoGAiatFw 2016-07-05T13:34:16 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-05T13:44:51 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-05T13:45:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T13:48:45 < jpa-> marble_visions: what do you mean by "CCMR2_Output" and "CCMR2_Input"? 2016-07-05T13:48:51 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-05T13:48:53 < dongs> wtf are those things 2016-07-05T13:49:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T13:56:56 < upgrdman_> capture compare match register? 2016-07-05T13:57:09 < upgrdman_> timer shitz 2016-07-05T13:59:47 < marble_visions> jpa-: SystemViewer peripheral names 2016-07-05T14:01:08 < marble_visions> hmm, the SVD might be wrong 2016-07-05T14:02:14 < marble_visions> i got it, the system viewer shows you both configs 2016-07-05T14:02:17 < marble_visions> it's the same register 2016-07-05T14:02:27 < jpa-> both? 2016-07-05T14:02:32 < marble_visions> but the bits mean different things whether it's an output or input 2016-07-05T14:02:40 < jpa-> eh, ok 2016-07-05T14:02:58 < marble_visions> in my case its CCMR2 configured as output 2016-07-05T14:03:08 < marble_visions> OC3M = 0x5 2016-07-05T14:03:16 < marble_visions> all else is 0s 2016-07-05T14:03:16 < jpa-> so your more is "Force active level - OC1REF is forced high" 2016-07-05T14:03:34 < marble_visions> yes 2016-07-05T14:03:34 < jpa-> *mode 2016-07-05T14:03:44 < marble_visions> until I set it to low 2016-07-05T14:04:03 < marble_visions> there's something more fundamental 2016-07-05T14:04:19 < marble_visions> they separate active high/low from 1/0 2016-07-05T14:05:07 < marble_visions> or maybe not, i dunno 2016-07-05T14:05:26 < marble_visions> in the interrupt handler i do TIM_ForcedAction_Active 2016-07-05T14:07:29 < marble_visions> but i think i need to set it to low 2016-07-05T14:07:34 < marble_visions> instead of high 2016-07-05T14:07:42 < marble_visions> let me change that and see what happends 2016-07-05T14:08:05 < jpa-> what are you even trying to do? 2016-07-05T14:08:31 < Laurenceb__> https://gfycat.com/BoringScarceChimneyswift 2016-07-05T14:10:25 < marble_visions> set a pin to 1, after a timer expires to set it to 0 in an interrupt 2016-07-05T14:10:46 < ReadError> oneshot? 2016-07-05T14:11:21 < marble_visions> ReadError: in the interrupt, i disable the timer, set the count to 0 and then enable it again 2016-07-05T14:11:24 < jpa-> marble_visions: why would you even use the timer output then if you only want to change it in interrupt? 2016-07-05T14:11:27 < jpa-> you can just use gpio? 2016-07-05T14:14:09 < marble_visions> well, i need it for a specific amount of time.. 2016-07-05T14:14:38 < jpa-> so what timer output modes are you using? 2016-07-05T14:14:45 < marble_visions> pwm is the more elegant solution, but functionally i should be able to do it with an OC 2016-07-05T14:17:13 < marble_visions> jpa-: 101: Force active level - OC1REF is forced high 2016-07-05T14:17:35 < marble_visions> and it stays always high 2016-07-05T14:18:01 < jpa-> yes.. and what other mode? 2016-07-05T14:19:25 < marble_visions> countermode is UP, outputstate is output_state_enable, OC polarity is low 2016-07-05T14:19:53 < jpa-> i mean.. if you always have the mode as "Force high", the pin will just always stay high.. 2016-07-05T14:20:52 < marble_visions> i thought that if you do TIMForcedOC3Config(TIM2, TIM_ForcedAction_InActive) it should force it to low 2016-07-05T14:23:10 < jpa-> so, you are using two modes: force high, and force low 2016-07-05T14:23:21 < marble_visions> jpa-: i guess 2016-07-05T14:23:52 < jpa-> so you are not actually using output capture at all, just forcing levels like you would with gpio 2016-07-05T14:24:36 < marble_visions> in the init i set the timer to ocmode_active, outputstate_enable, ocpolarity_high, which as I understand it means the timer is enabled, the output is enabled, and the polarity is active high. in the interrupt if I do a forced_inactive it should output 0 on the gpio 2016-07-05T14:24:57 < jpa-> so, you say it doesn't? 2016-07-05T14:25:01 < marble_visions> no 2016-07-05T14:25:49 < marble_visions> but also in the interrupt i also disable the timer, set the counter to 0 and then reenable it. could that be the issue 2016-07-05T14:26:48 < jpa-> i still don't see why you'd mess with timer outputs when you are not using output capture and just want a gpio 2016-07-05T14:27:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-05T14:35:48 < marble_visions> it seemed like a good idea 2016-07-05T14:35:50 < marble_visions> at the time 2016-07-05T14:35:54 < marble_visions> until i found the PWM mode 2016-07-05T14:36:07 < marble_visions> but nevertheless i want to know why it doesn't dowk 2016-07-05T14:36:09 < marble_visions> work* 2016-07-05T14:37:43 < marble_visions> i set up a timer, i setup an output compare. the gpio starts at 1, when the output compare matches, it should be forced to low, then when the interrupt comes when the timer expires, i set it to 1 again 2016-07-05T14:38:12 < marble_visions> i got mixed up earlier, apologies. 2016-07-05T14:40:43 < dongs> dumb pro question 2016-07-05T14:40:56 < dongs> 4L 0.8mm pcb vs 4L 1.6mm pcb, which one will dissipate heat better 2016-07-05T14:41:35 < Sync> not sure if it even matters 2016-07-05T14:41:40 < dongs> oh? 2016-07-05T14:41:59 < Sync> you want to viastich your shit to the outer layers anyway 2016-07-05T14:42:07 < dongs> of course 2016-07-05T14:42:17 < dongs> but wouldnt the thickness/prepreg thickness etc affect it? 2016-07-05T14:42:47 < Sync> probably but I don't think by much 2016-07-05T14:43:03 < dongs> http://www.electronics-cooling.com/1998/05/conduction-heat-transfer-in-a-printed-circuit-board/ 2016-07-05T14:43:07 < dongs> reading 2016-07-05T14:43:33 < marble_visions> dongs: 1.6 will be better 2016-07-05T14:44:11 < dongs> > A typical PCB used in a personal computer, might have 2 internal copper planes and two outer trace layers 2016-07-05T14:44:14 < dongs> lol 1998 2016-07-05T14:44:39 < dongs> marble_visions: i need math proving it significantly 2016-07-05T14:46:14 < marble_visions> dongs: there is no significant difference, the diff is less than 1.4x 2016-07-05T14:46:36 < dongs> so 1.6 will be 40% better than 0.8? 2016-07-05T14:46:38 < dongs> or 140% 2016-07-05T14:47:30 < marble_visions> dongs: 1.6 will be 40% better than 0.8 2016-07-05T14:48:42 < knielsen> why would 1.6mm dissipate better than 0.8mm? How can it even differ? Heat can only be dissipated from the surface anyway, right? 2016-07-05T14:49:30 < marble_visions> crt: hahaha 2016-07-05T14:50:29 < dongs> knielsen: shrug 2016-07-05T14:50:40 < dongs> knielsen: its thicker or something 2016-07-05T14:50:49 < dongs> thats why i prefixed my shit wiht "dumb pro question" 2016-07-05T14:51:21 < knielsen> well, 1.6 mm pcb has 0.8 mm x more surface, I suppose :) 2016-07-05T14:51:27 < dongs> heh 2016-07-05T14:53:12 < jpa-> via stiching should conduct better on 0.8mm though 2016-07-05T14:53:24 < jpa-> but 0.8mm can bend more easily under heat and pop off your components 2016-07-05T14:55:02 < marble_visions> knielsen: the layers in 1.6 are farther apart than in 0.8mm, which affects heat dissipitation 2016-07-05T14:55:34 < marble_visions> knielsen: do you want to know about constant heat or gradient heat? 2016-07-05T14:55:46 < marble_visions> dissipation* 2016-07-05T14:57:01 < knielsen> marble_visions: I just couldn't think of a way that a thicker pcb would cause increased heat dissipation - on the contrary, more material/distance between layers would if anything reduce the heat transfer to the surfaces, reducing surface temperature and heat dissipation (but thermal vias would probably make the difference rather small) 2016-07-05T15:03:49 < marble_visions> knielsen: provided 4L of copper, heat dissipation with thermal vias is better with 1.6mm than 0.8mm. i cannot imagine dissipating heat with only fr-4. it makes no sense 2016-07-05T15:06:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.194] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T15:10:25 < jpa-> i would agree with knielsen more 2016-07-05T15:15:00 < jadew> stackoverflow.com - such a poorly chosen name 2016-07-05T15:15:32 < jadew> I'm trying to find out why std::regex results in a stack overflow and I'm getting all the regex related results from stackoverflow.com 2016-07-05T15:16:15 < dongs> ownt 2016-07-05T15:16:26 < jpa-> http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=regex+stack+overflow so just do this 2016-07-05T15:17:05 < jadew> yeah, I was going to do that, but google is better cuz it bring up blogs and other resources as well 2016-07-05T15:17:12 < jpa-> then you can just use -site:stackoverflow.com to get the rest of stuff 2016-07-05T15:17:25 < jadew> ah ha! 2016-07-05T15:17:49 < jadew> I knew about site: didn't know about -site 2016-07-05T15:19:12 < dongs> i wanna measure ~1.5A current draw without opamp or otehr aids but i also dont wanna drop/dissipate too much 2016-07-05T15:19:21 < dongs> 0.1R OK? or should I use a pcb shunt 2016-07-05T15:19:45 < dongs> 0.15V drop with 0.1R hmm 2016-07-05T15:19:49 < jpa-> at what bandwidth? 2016-07-05T15:19:55 < jpa-> you can oversample a lot 2016-07-05T15:19:56 < dongs> jpa, just monitoring 2016-07-05T15:20:12 < dongs> i wanna turn off things if too much current is drawn 2016-07-05T15:20:19 < dongs> but not fast etc. 2016-07-05T15:20:39 < jadew> should be enough and why not via comparator? 2016-07-05T15:20:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-05T15:20:48 < dongs> i just want a number 2016-07-05T15:20:53 < jadew> ah 2016-07-05T15:21:00 < upgrdman_> is dakar the only other cn fuck in here? 2016-07-05T15:21:10 < jpa-> you get about 1mV resolution with oversampling, so should work 2016-07-05T15:21:13 < dongs> ive never heard him talk 2016-07-05T15:21:18 < dongs> jpa, with 0.1? 2016-07-05T15:21:29 < jpa-> ye 2016-07-05T15:21:33 < dongs> the problem is 0.1R will drop .15V 2016-07-05T15:21:36 < dongs> thats kinda lot 2016-07-05T15:22:10 < dongs> hmm. 2016-07-05T15:22:23 < jpa-> well, if you don't need much accuracy even 0.02 ohm could work 2016-07-05T15:23:52 < dongs> whats the mV range gonna be with 0.01? is that just directly related to vdrop? 2016-07-05T15:23:59 < jpa-> yes 2016-07-05T15:24:05 < kakimir> how is turnigy i10 radio? 2016-07-05T15:24:13 < kakimir> it's on sale and shiet 2016-07-05T15:24:19 < dongs> 150mV vs 5mV 2016-07-05T15:24:19 < dongs> hmm 2016-07-05T15:24:22 < dongs> yeah .. no 2016-07-05T15:25:04 < dongs> or.. wait 2016-07-05T15:25:10 < dongs> 3.3V/4095 is pretty small 2016-07-05T15:25:38 < dongs> 0.806mV/lsb 2016-07-05T15:25:49 < dongs> so for 5mV i get a couple bits to fuck wiht 2016-07-05T15:26:18 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T15:26:34 < dongs> thats gonna be in noise territory there i think 2016-07-05T15:26:58 < karlp> you can sample lots though, you said it was slow. 2016-07-05T15:27:03 < dongs> right 2016-07-05T15:27:09 < dongs> i can sample for a second or whatever 2016-07-05T15:27:26 < dongs> is that gonna improve quality? 2016-07-05T15:27:36 < jpa-> it will improve resolution 2016-07-05T15:28:09 < jpa-> but remember that even if it is 0.8mV per lsb, you'll have some +-3 units of noise before you do the oversampling 2016-07-05T15:28:09 < BrainDamage> you can trade off bandwith for extra bits resolution 2016-07-05T15:28:45 < jpa-> sampling 4x longer will give 1 bit more 2016-07-05T15:29:16 < dongs> shit never mind i was calcing using 5A current 2016-07-05T15:29:20 < dongs> only 15mV drop for 0.01R 2016-07-05T15:29:22 < jpa-> (trimmed mean or median + average filtering can reduce noise even a bit better) 2016-07-05T15:30:33 < marble_visions> jpa-: measure it out 2016-07-05T15:32:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.210] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T15:32:41 < jadew> sampling for a longer time will also make it more stable 2016-07-05T15:32:53 < jadew> so you can sample lower signals 2016-07-05T15:32:57 < dongs> how long are we talking here 2016-07-05T15:32:57 < upgrdman_> wuts trimmed mean? ignoring outliers? 2016-07-05T15:33:08 < jadew> @ 15 mV the signalis going to be shit anyway 2016-07-05T15:33:08 < dongs> ns us ms s minutes etc 2016-07-05T15:33:11 < jadew> ms 2016-07-05T15:33:21 < dongs> jadew: thats what im thinking, 0..15mV is gonna be mostly noise 2016-07-05T15:33:24 < jpa-> upgrdman_: yeah, sort everything, remove e.g. top and bottom 10%, average the rest 2016-07-05T15:33:35 < dongs> plus i dont bypass shit good neough, its probably gonna be literally just noise everywehre 2016-07-05T15:33:35 < jpa-> it's just a bit heavy for realtime 2016-07-05T15:34:00 < jadew> dongs, you can get data from nooise too, as long as you take enough samples so it averages out 2016-07-05T15:34:03 < dongs> if i have ripple on that supply im fucked 2016-07-05T15:34:16 < jpa-> dongs: if you run the STM32 ADC at 1MSps, then i'd say 1024x oversampling (1ms) is going to give you as much resolution as you will reasonably get 2016-07-05T15:34:52 < jadew> yeah, but it's not only about resolution 2016-07-05T15:35:08 < jadew> if in 1 ms the noise doesn't averages out, he'll get a jumpy readout 2016-07-05T15:35:11 < jpa-> yeah, zero offset may turn out to be a problem 2016-07-05T15:35:17 < jpa-> and that, true 2016-07-05T15:35:29 < jpa-> hard to say without knowing his noise sources 2016-07-05T15:35:36 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-05T15:36:11 < jadew> is an opamp out of the question? you could hit two birds with one stone there 2016-07-05T15:36:32 < jpa-> (remember to get an opamp with low offset voltage, though) 2016-07-05T15:36:42 < jadew> altho, for a 15 mV signal you'll have offset issues, yeah 2016-07-05T15:36:52 < jadew> or you'll need a bipolar supply 2016-07-05T15:39:50 < dongs> jadew: to oexpensive yea 2016-07-05T15:39:58 < dongs> hmm i wonder what PTC voltage drop is 2016-07-05T15:40:07 < dongs> maybe i can abuse that as shunt resistor 2016-07-05T15:40:13 < jadew> it will vary 2016-07-05T15:40:17 < dongs> yes 2016-07-05T15:40:30 < dongs> but im gonna need a PTC anyway so 2016-07-05T15:41:04 < jadew> it will make for a very shitty shunt 2016-07-05T15:41:25 < dongs> http://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/mfnsmf.pdf 2016-07-05T15:41:26 < dongs> hey 2016-07-05T15:41:27 < dongs> no it wont 2016-07-05T15:41:40 < dongs> MF-NSMF200 2016-07-05T15:41:48 < dongs> 0.02R to 0.085R 2016-07-05T15:42:22 < jadew> yeah, but 10 degrees later it will be something completely different 2016-07-05T15:43:09 < jadew> they don't have a graph there 2016-07-05T15:43:12 < jadew> you should make one 2016-07-05T15:43:31 < dongs> right, i was looking for a chart 2016-07-05T15:44:26 < jadew> it also looks like it's resistance will change in time 2016-07-05T15:44:32 < dongs> hm wait 2016-07-05T15:44:37 < jadew> *its 2016-07-05T15:44:42 < dongs> i'd have to put this shit on highside 2016-07-05T15:44:54 < dongs> (PTC) 2016-07-05T15:45:14 < jadew> well, current sensing is best done on the high side as well 2016-07-05T15:45:14 < dongs> cuz interrupting GND is kinda dumb on this board cuz thres a bunch of gnd sources from connectors etc 2016-07-05T15:45:21 < jadew> unless it's an isolated output 2016-07-05T15:45:28 < dongs> yeah but then i have 5V levels 2016-07-05T15:46:46 < jadew> yeah, you'd still end up using an opamp or a dedicated IC :) 2016-07-05T15:49:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T15:52:12 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T15:54:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T16:03:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-38.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T16:04:15 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-05T16:05:00 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-05T16:06:50 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T16:06:55 < dongs> i used some highside measuring thing in another shit 2016-07-05T16:06:57 < dongs> gonna see wat it iwas 2016-07-05T16:07:09 < karlp> allegro has a bunch 2016-07-05T16:07:16 < dongs> nah it was somethign chink 2016-07-05T16:07:20 < dongs> ZXCT1010 2016-07-05T16:08:47 -!- crtbong [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T16:09:04 < jadew> dongs, holly crap... I started looking trough my part bins for it 2016-07-05T16:09:09 < jadew> that's the part I was thinking about too 2016-07-05T16:09:17 < jadew> but couldn't remember what it was called 2016-07-05T16:09:46 < jadew> I knew it had a Z in it 2016-07-05T16:09:54 < dongs> teeehe 2016-07-05T16:10:24 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T16:10:45 < dongs> hm they're 25c 2016-07-05T16:12:07 < jadew> not bad, right? 2016-07-05T16:12:38 < dongs> well, i already have them in stock i geuss thats a bonus 2016-07-05T16:35:14 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T16:39:57 < marble_visions> alright, i think i've made progress with the output compare not working.. the combinations of polarity + output compare mode 2016-07-05T16:40:23 < marble_visions> ocmode inactive + polarity low should make a pin in 0 go to 1, no? 2016-07-05T16:40:55 < marble_visions> since inactive of active low is 1 2016-07-05T16:41:04 < marble_visions> or am i misunderstanding something here? 2016-07-05T16:41:19 < marble_visions> jpa-: ^ 2016-07-05T16:42:24 < jpa-> probably, who cares, easy enough to try out? 2016-07-05T16:44:26 < marble_visions> jpa-: just a sec 2016-07-05T16:47:13 < marble_visions> alright, i've got oc mode active, polarity low, preset the pin to InActive, and when the timer expires the pin does not move into 0, which is the active state 2016-07-05T16:47:48 < marble_visions> timer expires -> timer match* 2016-07-05T16:48:24 < marble_visions> since inactive with polarity low means 1 2016-07-05T16:57:44 < dongs> what middleware are you using 2016-07-05T17:01:11 < marble_visions> stdperiph 2016-07-05T17:01:19 < marble_visions> latest from st 2016-07-05T17:02:06 < Fleck> stdperiph is discontinued 2016-07-05T17:02:18 < dongs> No its not 2016-07-05T17:02:20 < dongs> they still update it 2016-07-05T17:02:28 < dongs> they d idnt make it for F7 and some other useless shit 2016-07-05T17:02:48 < marble_visions> also they've pushed updates for 469 2016-07-05T17:02:54 < dongs> yes 2016-07-05T17:03:03 < dongs> there's DSI stuff and whatever other new shit support. 2016-07-05T17:04:07 < dongs> bedtime 2016-07-05T17:04:31 < marble_visions> gn 2016-07-05T17:08:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-38.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-05T17:37:30 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T17:40:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T17:42:48 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T17:58:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.66] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T18:02:38 < Laurenceb__> anyone here used timers with one master timer connected to two slaves? 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2016-07-05T20:02:37 < kakimir> that's shitty threshold 2016-07-05T20:21:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.195.215] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-05T20:23:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.195.215] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T20:25:30 < jadew> 85 dBA buzzers lol 2016-07-05T20:26:30 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T20:26:35 < jadew> ah, apparently it's not that loud 2016-07-05T20:27:26 < kakimir> I need 100dB buzzers 2016-07-05T20:27:30 < kakimir> to hear it 2016-07-05T20:28:50 < Shavik> I'm convinced the forums on st.com are hosted on a STM32 2016-07-05T20:31:03 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T20:39:47 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-05T20:39:52 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-05T20:40:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T20:43:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.7.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T20:46:18 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T20:46:45 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-05T20:47:00 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T20:47:14 < englishman> attn dongs http://hackaday.com/2016/07/05/the-future-of-eagle-cad/ 2016-07-05T20:47:31 < englishman> your favourite eda program has a big buddy helping it out now 2016-07-05T20:50:16 < kakimir> best business model for eagle would be mass suying of pirated eagle users 2016-07-05T20:51:39 < zyp> haha 2016-07-05T20:51:45 < kakimir> englishman: it says KICAD in it.. subliminal message to turn into kicad user 2016-07-05T20:54:29 < englishman> lol, the Voltage Films business model 2016-07-05T20:56:16 < kakimir> how to do such minimalistic gas valve that only use electricity when operated? 2016-07-05T20:56:38 < Sync> ? 2016-07-05T20:58:07 < zyp> bistable solenoid? 2016-07-05T20:58:31 < kakimir> vent needs to go only one way 2016-07-05T20:58:37 < kakimir> that is open 2016-07-05T20:58:41 < zyp> or motoried screw or ball valve 2016-07-05T20:58:41 < kakimir> and stay 2016-07-05T20:58:55 < kakimir> and it needs to be small 2016-07-05T20:59:33 < zyp> wtf is this for? building a gas chamber? 2016-07-05T20:59:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T21:00:50 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-05T21:01:05 < zyp> dongs would be proud 2016-07-05T21:01:45 < kakimir> no but automatic floats for motorcycle 2016-07-05T21:02:21 < Sync> use fuel injection. 2016-07-05T21:02:28 < kakimir> hmm 2016-07-05T21:02:39 < BrainDamage> automatic floats? 2016-07-05T21:02:52 < kakimir> using fuel injector to directly discharge CO2 round to floats 2016-07-05T21:02:58 < kakimir> interesting idea 2016-07-05T21:03:10 < Sync> wtf 2016-07-05T21:03:39 < kakimir> would propably limit flow rate to good level 2016-07-05T21:03:51 < zyp> what about car airbags? 2016-07-05T21:03:59 < kakimir> those go empty 2016-07-05T21:04:05 < kakimir> and are dangerous 2016-07-05T21:04:21 < zyp> I mean the inflation stuff from them 2016-07-05T21:04:27 < kakimir> explosive 2016-07-05T21:04:30 < kakimir> maybe 2016-07-05T21:04:32 < BrainDamage> i'd imagine they use pyrovalves 2016-07-05T21:04:34 < zyp> yep 2016-07-05T21:04:36 < BrainDamage> one off 2016-07-05T21:04:47 < kakimir> but floats are unreinforced plastic 2016-07-05T21:04:53 < kakimir> those go into pieces 2016-07-05T21:05:21 < Sync> calculate the volumes 2016-07-05T21:05:28 < Sync> and use just enough gas in the generator 2016-07-05T21:06:30 < BrainDamage> are you going to stock on NOx too? to crash hard at the first bend 2016-07-05T21:06:31 < kakimir> floats may be used many times 2016-07-05T21:07:07 < kakimir> so having a load of airbag explosives is not practical 2016-07-05T21:08:05 < kakimir> this all is about riding motorcycle in baltic sea 2016-07-05T21:08:22 < Sync> wtf 2016-07-05T21:08:24 < Sync> WTF. 2016-07-05T21:08:49 < kakimir> so it needs to look like you don't have any floats around when they film it 2016-07-05T21:09:21 < BrainDamage> https://static.wixstatic.com/media/07ef09_4f0f81d04e70430b8c22ec9b75798c4d.jpg_srz_567_414_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz 2016-07-05T21:09:36 < kakimir> and if they stumble there is fishing line or so activating valves and stuff 2016-07-05T21:10:20 < kakimir> cartridges filling inflateable... chairs bind into bike 2016-07-05T21:13:27 < kakimir> or something like that 2016-07-05T21:17:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T21:19:43 < Ecco> Holyshitcrap 2016-07-05T21:19:47 < Ecco> My induction cooktop just died 2016-07-05T21:19:54 < Ecco> Have you guys ever repaired one of these? 2016-07-05T21:20:31 < kakimir> buy new element from chinamen 2016-07-05T21:20:38 < Ecco> really? 2016-07-05T21:20:48 < Ecco> Is there any chance they'll have the exact same part? 2016-07-05T21:21:37 < kakimir> I don't know but I came across those elements in ebay 2016-07-05T21:23:23 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T21:29:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.195.215] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-05T21:33:05 < jpa-> http://tptp.cc/mirrors/siyobik.info/instruction/IRET%252FIRETD.html nice pseudo code ;) 2016-07-05T21:33:15 < jpa-> "i wonder if they microcoded that" 2016-07-05T21:36:08 < Sync> haha 2016-07-05T21:38:51 < Sync> Ecco: regular troubleshooting applies, they are pretty simple units 2016-07-05T21:39:29 < jpa-> Ecco: first step would be to measure the coil, probably 2016-07-05T21:43:03 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-05T21:50:59 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T21:54:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:2533:87c:e721:d74a] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T22:04:23 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T22:13:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.7.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T22:21:47 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@142-165-132-47.sktn.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-05T22:31:18 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T22:47:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.7.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T22:52:07 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T22:56:41 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-05T23:07:03 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-05T23:29:23 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-05T23:29:31 < Ecco> hey 2016-07-05T23:29:36 < Ecco> So I opened the damn thing 2016-07-05T23:29:41 < Ecco> and there was a PCB fuse that had blown up 2016-07-05T23:29:58 < Ecco> you know, a huge trace that suddenly becomes very small and super wide again 2016-07-05T23:30:11 < Ecco> there's even a fuse mount right above but without any fuse mounted 2016-07-05T23:30:32 < Ecco> I didn't have a fuse around so I mounted a small wire (well it expects aa 20A fuse) 2016-07-05T23:30:36 < Ecco> I plugged the thing 2016-07-05T23:30:39 < Ecco> it blew up 2016-07-05T23:31:02 < Ecco> as in 4th-of-july-straight-in-my-kitchen 2016-07-05T23:34:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.7.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-05T23:34:57 < Steffanx> fool, Ecco. 2016-07-05T23:39:10 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/TtFotWu.jpg 2016-07-05T23:40:03 < jadew> haha --- Day changed Wed Jul 06 2016 2016-07-06T00:02:47 < Sync> Ecco: that is why you power stuff up that has blown the fuse with something current limited 2016-07-06T00:15:46 < jadew> if the fuse blows up, you shouldn't assume that the fuse was at fault 2016-07-06T00:16:39 < jadew> you have to first figure out why it blew up, otherwise you're just asking for trouble if you're just replacing it and plugging it back in 2016-07-06T00:17:20 < jadew> on some new keysight instruments the fuse is no longer exposed 2016-07-06T00:17:55 < jadew> they consider that if it blows up, you should send it in for service or at least inspect everything yourself 2016-07-06T00:18:36 < jadew> (forcing you to open it up) 2016-07-06T00:21:27 < carabia> jadew, wrong. first thing you're supposed to do is at least triple or quadruple the current rating 2016-07-06T00:21:56 < carabia> and yeah in case of the missing fuse, use a spanner 2016-07-06T00:22:03 < jadew> hehe 2016-07-06T00:27:22 < kakimir> britain enters brexit agony Laurenceb__? 2016-07-06T00:28:06 < jadew> I thought that happened the next day 2016-07-06T00:28:41 < jadew> but it's possible it's just the remain side that's in agony 2016-07-06T00:28:59 < kakimir> everything is as planned *evil laughter* 2016-07-06T00:31:19 < kakimir> it isn't 2016-07-06T00:32:06 < kakimir> nobody raelly knows 2016-07-06T00:33:12 < jadew> I think they'll get a new vote and they won't leave 2016-07-06T00:34:26 < kakimir> that shows insecurity to have such vote 2016-07-06T00:36:23 < jadew> I'm willing to bet on it 2016-07-06T00:36:30 < jadew> $100, who's in? 2016-07-06T00:37:10 < jadew> the thing is their legislation allows for such a vote 2016-07-06T00:37:12 < karlp> there won't be another vote, it will either be ignored, as it's non binding, 2016-07-06T00:37:23 < karlp> or it will leave, depending on who gets elected where 2016-07-06T00:37:29 < karlp> but there won't be another vote 2016-07-06T00:37:56 < jadew> karlp, it would be politically easier to re-do the referendum than ignore the previous vote 2016-07-06T00:38:14 < karlp> what makes the second vote valid, if the first wasn't? 2016-07-06T00:38:26 < jadew> regardless that the leave supporters are saying that a new vote would be undemocratic - it wouldn't, everyone can change their mind 2016-07-06T00:38:26 < karlp> and "easeier" very much depends on how elections go, 2016-07-06T00:38:36 < karlp> so when do you stop having votes then? 2016-07-06T00:38:44 < karlp> "we're voting until we get the result we want" 2016-07-06T00:38:44 < Laurenceb__> when they get remain vote 2016-07-06T00:38:46 < karlp> umm, no... 2016-07-06T00:38:51 < karlp> that's not how voting works 2016-07-06T00:38:57 < jadew> karlp, probably whe nyou have a big majority 2016-07-06T00:38:59 < Laurenceb__> I think a revote would result in larger margin for leave 2016-07-06T00:39:00 < jadew> not just 2% 2016-07-06T00:39:14 < Laurenceb__> as remain people are more likely to be lazy 2016-07-06T00:39:40 < jadew> Laurenceb__, tbh, I think a lot of the leave voters got scared 2016-07-06T00:39:59 < jadew> a new referendum will surely result in a "stay" vote 2016-07-06T00:40:24 < jadew> and that's why I think that the political class will rather do that, than ignore the vote 2016-07-06T00:40:28 < Laurenceb__> maybe they will move to Bel Air 2016-07-06T00:40:32 < jadew> they're clearly not fond of the outcome 2016-07-06T00:40:50 < karlp> jadew: if you're having a new election, you just make it a campagain issue, you don't need to have another election 2016-07-06T00:40:59 < karlp> "I haz the mandate to toss the vote yo" 2016-07-06T00:41:49 < jadew> I suppose you're right 2016-07-06T00:42:35 < kakimir> all politics dig themselfs underground because they are not good with decision making and responsibility 2016-07-06T00:43:19 < jadew> yeah, I still think there's going to be a new referendum, but the fact that they need a new PM now makes it a bit more difficult 2016-07-06T00:44:52 < kakimir> ohsix: can you show one? 2016-07-06T00:46:45 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T00:49:09 < Laurenceb__> https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9340869&cid=52448559 2016-07-06T00:54:04 < Laurenceb__> http://prefrontal.org/files/posters/Bennett-Salmon-2009.pdf 2016-07-06T00:55:03 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T01:05:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:2533:87c:e721:d74a] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-06T01:10:10 < Laurenceb__> new british fetish 2016-07-06T01:10:12 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/zFmMtl8 2016-07-06T01:10:55 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-06T01:11:08 < englishman> Laurenceb__: you have been warned about post quality 2016-07-06T01:11:25 < englishman> clearly being kicked out of the EU has not improved your humour 2016-07-06T01:12:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:2533:87c:e721:d74a] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T01:23:38 < kakimir> it should be on shelf part 2016-07-06T01:23:42 < kakimir> not order stuff 2016-07-06T01:34:36 < kakimir> how to use patreon? 2016-07-06T01:35:24 < kakimir> there is this monthly payment but what is this text field with usd value in it? 2016-07-06T01:35:42 < kakimir> in reward page 2016-07-06T01:51:16 < kakimir> but there is these selection circpe buttons 2016-07-06T01:51:29 < kakimir> 1 5 10 20. 2016-07-06T01:51:32 < kakimir> that is monthly 2016-07-06T01:51:47 < kakimir> isn't it 2016-07-06T01:53:02 < kakimir> he get's patreon money for internet trolling? 2016-07-06T01:58:41 < kakimir> sad 2016-07-06T01:59:10 < kakimir> send him 1usd at time 2016-07-06T02:01:48 < ReadError> why when you can send 0.01 ? 2016-07-06T02:01:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T02:07:05 < kakimir> you love to dislike in youtube mobile? 2016-07-06T02:07:30 < kakimir> ohsix: do you play that tinder game in your phone? 2016-07-06T02:08:36 < kakimir> ohsix: that is true 2016-07-06T02:15:00 * karlp eitherJul 05 23:13:57 terox kernel: usb 1-3.2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 2016-07-06T02:15:03 < karlp> Jul 05 23:13:57 terox kernel: usb 1-3.2.3: Product: usb_to_serial_cdcacm 2016-07-06T02:15:04 < karlp> oops sorry 2016-07-06T02:15:06 < karlp> Jul 05 23:13:57 terox kernel: usb 1-3.2.3: Manufacturer: libopencm3 2016-07-06T02:15:09 < karlp> Jul 05 23:13:57 terox kernel: usb 1-3.2.3: SerialNumber: none 2016-07-06T02:16:35 < karlp> what? 2016-07-06T02:17:15 < karlp> no, where do you get the idea it had a pid? 2016-07-06T02:17:22 < karlp> those are string descriptor ids 2016-07-06T02:17:25 < karlp> not vids pids 2016-07-06T02:18:45 < karlp> by accident? that's why I said oops, sorry. 2016-07-06T02:19:13 < englishman> how is your lunix going R2COM 2016-07-06T02:20:05 < ReadError> it was horrible 2016-07-06T02:20:11 < ReadError> i dont recommend it 2016-07-06T02:20:24 < ReadError> downloading it 2016-07-06T02:20:31 < ReadError> running it 2016-07-06T02:20:37 < ReadError> trying to make it work 2016-07-06T02:21:14 < ReadError> it just didnt when i tried it 2016-07-06T02:28:15 < englishman> smart choice 2016-07-06T02:37:39 < kakimir> how is engine blocks machined? I mean.. there is no single straight measure surface in it 2016-07-06T02:37:49 < kakimir> you start by making one 2016-07-06T02:37:51 < kakimir> ? 2016-07-06T02:38:07 < ds2> prehaps softjaws? 2016-07-06T02:40:50 < kakimir> then you make the piece out of it you want to? 2016-07-06T02:41:54 < kakimir> I don't recall perfectly explanationary one but more entertaining ones 2016-07-06T02:43:00 < kakimir> but I think there needs to be some quite accurate face to start with so that cnc doesn't run out of margins 2016-07-06T02:43:46 < kakimir> they propably know how to make one nice control surface or multiple ones 2016-07-06T02:45:08 < kakimir> and know exactly how those come out 2016-07-06T02:48:19 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-06T02:50:54 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T02:51:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:2533:87c:e721:d74a] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-06T02:59:05 < kakimir> biggest one propably by averaging some control points out of it 2016-07-06T03:00:10 < kakimir> they propably have some x and y knobs in the side 2016-07-06T03:01:32 < dongs> > it must be noted Eagle is now Autodesk's premier EDA suite. 2016-07-06T03:01:36 < dongs> RIP autocad 2016-07-06T03:01:41 < dongs> if this is 'premier' 2016-07-06T03:03:13 < kakimir> ohsix: they have measurement rigs that do stuff in matter of seconds 2016-07-06T03:10:32 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-06T03:11:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T03:17:04 < dongs> Almost the same here, however Windows 10 was the reason I installed Debian on my main computer. Just got tired of fighting those auto upgrade thingies. So I finally made the switch to KiCad and after about 5 designs, I got used to it. It’s actually a very fluent transition from Altium to KiCad. 2016-07-06T03:17:09 < dongs> haha 2016-07-06T03:17:12 < dongs> windows 10 2016-07-06T03:17:55 < dongs> One bit of integration that would be very useful would be to allow using AutoCAD to draw pad shapes and packages. I’ve found EAGLE sometimes has a hard time handling irregular pad shapes, and being able to import a DWG file would really help there. 2016-07-06T03:18:00 < dongs> haha 2016-07-06T03:23:45 < kakimir> anyone played with stm32 soldering iron? ts100 2016-07-06T03:23:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T03:24:19 < kakimir> I wonder if there even is any source code available for creating custom firmware 2016-07-06T03:24:38 < kakimir> I didn't find anything by short google search 2016-07-06T03:26:09 < kakimir> thanks bro 2016-07-06T03:26:35 < kakimir> battery ordered.. time to tune that UVLO 2016-07-06T03:27:04 < kakimir> TS100 has the most power I have seen in any soldering iron. I mean the power to the tip 2016-07-06T03:27:13 < kakimir> really nice 2016-07-06T03:27:32 < kakimir> but something heats inside it when soldering big copper wires 2016-07-06T03:27:39 < kakimir> -fets 2016-07-06T03:30:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T03:35:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T03:36:04 < dongs> For me it’s always been simple. Develop in Eagle and your design can never be sold. Simple as that. Its amazing the number of people who are blindly using it… 2016-07-06T03:36:07 < dongs> Spend the effort to learn KiCad and as long as you dont make motherboards for a living you’re fine. 2016-07-06T03:36:11 < dongs> damn 2016-07-06T03:36:13 < dongs> started off so good 2016-07-06T03:36:15 < dongs> then he fucked up by recommending kikecad 2016-07-06T03:36:31 < kakimir> did well* 2016-07-06T03:36:52 < dongs> oh, he meant it in a license-way 2016-07-06T03:37:01 < dongs> not that eagle is unusable shit that cannot make proper commercial boards 2016-07-06T03:42:39 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mota/one-touch-drone-for-everyone-meet-jetjat-ultra/ 2016-07-06T03:42:42 < dongs> lol 2016-07-06T03:42:47 < dongs> someone selling CX10W or whatever 2016-07-06T03:43:03 < dongs> for $50-70 2016-07-06T03:43:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T03:44:25 < kakimir> you mean creating a scam? 2016-07-06T03:44:35 < dongs> yea 2016-07-06T03:44:44 < dongs> no scam, technically 2016-07-06T03:44:50 < dongs> but these are like $10 on alibaba 2016-07-06T03:45:01 < dongs> the only scam is idiots paying $70 for it 2016-07-06T03:45:19 < kakimir> scam in sense there is promise of something new made with donations 2016-07-06T03:45:30 < kakimir> or being developed 2016-07-06T03:47:07 < aandrew> < dongs> For me itâ@Ys always been simple. Develop in Eagle and your design can never be sold. 2016-07-06T03:47:10 < aandrew> lolwut 2016-07-06T03:47:29 < dongs> yeah he meant freetard license that restricts commercial shit or whatever 2016-07-06T03:47:36 < aandrew> oic 2016-07-06T03:47:41 < dongs> but the other thing is right too 2016-07-06T03:47:41 < aandrew> who gives a shit on licenses 2016-07-06T03:47:44 < dongs> the way i read it 2016-07-06T03:47:54 < dongs> that nobody serious makes commercial product sin eagle 2016-07-06T03:48:00 < ds2> just buy a damn license... they are so cheap 2016-07-06T03:48:00 < aandrew> I did 2016-07-06T03:48:02 < dongs> only make:R wank 2016-07-06T03:48:08 < aandrew> I'm on altium now 2016-07-06T03:48:09 < ds2> only orcad licenses are cheaper ;) 2016-07-06T03:48:27 < dongs> dude orcad isnt even relevant tehse days 2016-07-06T03:48:39 < ds2> depends on how you look at it 2016-07-06T03:48:47 < ds2> orcad lets you edit allegro files 2016-07-06T03:51:16 < dongs> and? 2016-07-06T03:54:04 < emeb> ds2: stm32 + lattice Ultra project here -> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/f303_ice5/index.html 2016-07-06T03:54:38 < kakimir> develop in kicad and do what you will 2016-07-06T03:54:49 < emeb> added sources for the mcu & fpga test image 2016-07-06T03:58:25 < kakimir> changed in oven from analog strain gauge amplifiers to digital unit 2016-07-06T03:59:06 < kakimir> so now I need some splash-dust proof 4pin connector that is nice and solid and not too big 2016-07-06T04:01:38 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/hmi-stm-usb/ what the fuck is HMI 2016-07-06T04:01:55 < dongs> i mean i know one meaning of it but I dont think it fits here 2016-07-06T04:08:19 < ds2> emeb: saw taht via twitter...that's the one using the closed toolchain, right? 2016-07-06T04:08:48 < dongs> lol. 2016-07-06T04:08:57 < dongs> ds2, not everything needs to be OPEN for it to WORK 2016-07-06T04:09:09 < dongs> infact, the opposite is usually true 2016-07-06T04:09:25 < dongs> something being OPEN meansa it will generally be a cunt to get working and/or suck 2016-07-06T04:11:26 < emeb> ds2: yep - Ultra parts are only built w/ Lattice closed toolchain 2016-07-06T04:12:10 < emeb> I wish they had the normal HX parts available in reasonable packages 2016-07-06T04:12:47 < emeb> but only BGA, giant 144-pin or stupid 2-row QFN. 2016-07-06T04:13:36 < emeb> that 2-row QFN is pretty much impossible to route on hobby-quality PCB processes 2016-07-06T04:13:50 < emeb> needs via-in-pad 2016-07-06T04:14:06 < dongs> is it one of those that expects you to route 4mil traces between outer pads 2016-07-06T04:14:14 < dongs> or the one wehre ytou need to drop a via under every inner row to take it out 2016-07-06T04:14:29 < emeb> yeah - drop via inside the inner pads 2016-07-06T04:14:45 < dongs> and EP is too close to the inner, so you cant place it outside the pad? 2016-07-06T04:14:53 < emeb> right 2016-07-06T04:14:56 < dongs> fuckers 2016-07-06T04:15:02 < emeb> I hate them 2016-07-06T04:15:49 < emeb> and all their BGAs are 0.5mm pitch or less 2016-07-06T04:16:10 < dongs> sounds like ST 2016-07-06T04:16:14 < emeb> heh 2016-07-06T04:16:32 < emeb> they've got a 36-ball BGA that's 3x3 mm. 2016-07-06T04:18:20 < dongs> im sure samsng uses then 2016-07-06T04:18:22 < dongs> them 2016-07-06T04:19:13 < emeb> yeah - seems they were targeting phones 2016-07-06T04:20:16 < dongs> "yet" 2016-07-06T04:20:19 < dongs> R2COM: it wont, either 2016-07-06T04:20:37 < dongs> xlilinx abandoned ISE , i think vivado does run on win10 tho 2016-07-06T04:20:57 < dongs> R2COM: im not sure, suposedly it works and is updated often 2016-07-06T04:21:01 < dongs> once you login to check it out 2016-07-06T04:23:43 < dongs> why dont oyu fucking download and try it out 2016-07-06T04:24:02 < dongs> i think i might do that cuz i have some fgt custoemr that I need to start building shit and i dont wanna deal with teaching them how to install cucklipse 2016-07-06T04:24:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T04:24:34 < aandrew> man these estops are expensie 2016-07-06T04:24:40 < aandrew> not even aliexpress has a better price on them 2016-07-06T04:24:42 < aandrew> Omron A165E-S-01 2016-07-06T04:25:04 < dongs> wut 2016-07-06T04:25:09 < dongs> if you just want a giant red button 2016-07-06T04:25:11 < dongs> im sure china will do better 2016-07-06T04:25:31 < aandrew> well it's turn to release 2016-07-06T04:25:35 < aandrew> heh 2016-07-06T04:25:44 < aandrew> I feel kind of dirty searching the net for "aluminum knob" :-) 2016-07-06T04:27:34 < dongs> ugh openstm32 so fucking SLOW 2016-07-06T04:29:07 < dongs> still looking for an actual download link 2016-07-06T04:29:27 < dongs> i did that already 2016-07-06T04:29:32 < dongs> that took way longer than necessaryt 2016-07-06T04:30:29 < dongs> file galleries is what I think i need 2016-07-06T04:30:33 < dongs> but its just times out connecting there 2016-07-06T04:30:36 < dongs> man waht a fucking joke 2016-07-06T04:31:08 < dongs> no, "slow" is wrong word for it 2016-07-06T04:32:01 < ds2> emeb: mini BBB compat. board - http://www.hy-research.com/VKS.html 2016-07-06T04:32:14 < aandrew> fucking knobs are expensive too. ugh 2016-07-06T04:33:26 < dongs> ds2: wtfd is that diagonally-placed package 2016-07-06T04:34:12 < ds2> dongs: it is a super BGA (SIP if you heard of that) 2016-07-06T04:34:22 < dongs> yeah i know wat sip is 2016-07-06T04:34:23 < ds2> DDR3/PMIC/SOC in 1 BGA 2016-07-06T04:34:26 < dongs> right 2016-07-06T04:34:34 < ds2> no DDR layout issues :D 2016-07-06T04:34:34 < dongs> is tht the shit that was linked here few days/weeks ago 2016-07-06T04:34:43 < dongs> somethign beagleboner related 2016-07-06T04:34:50 < ds2> maybe 2016-07-06T04:34:51 < emeb> ds2: were you involved in that VKS module? 2016-07-06T04:34:57 < ds2> but I haven't been here for a month 2016-07-06T04:35:00 < ds2> emeb: it is my design 2016-07-06T04:35:07 < emeb> ds2: wow - congrats 2016-07-06T04:35:14 < emeb> seems like a cool thing 2016-07-06T04:35:28 < ds2> so yes 2016-07-06T04:35:59 < dongs> whats the partnumber on that thing 2016-07-06T04:36:06 < emeb> ds2: remember when that came out a while back - didn't realize you did it. 2016-07-06T04:36:07 < dongs> tryin to check my chrome hsitory 2016-07-06T04:37:00 < ds2> didn't think it got much publicity 2016-07-06T04:37:29 < emeb> ds2: hmmm - seems that the beagleboard.org folks mentioned it. Unless there's another module out there... 2016-07-06T04:37:36 < ds2> emeb: it was documented around the 2nd wk of May 2016-07-06T04:37:45 < emeb> ds2: sounds right 2016-07-06T04:37:56 < dongs> http://octavosystems.com/octavo_products/osd335x/ 2016-07-06T04:37:58 < dongs> thats it 2016-07-06T04:38:02 < ds2> dongs: yep 2016-07-06T04:38:05 < dongs> linked here on may 5 2016-07-06T04:38:22 < emeb> amaze 2016-07-06T04:38:34 < ds2> octavo or my board? 2016-07-06T04:38:41 < ds2> my board didn't exists as of may 5 :D 2016-07-06T04:39:24 < emeb> ds2: did you work on the module or just the board? 2016-07-06T04:39:51 < ds2> emeb: just the board 2016-07-06T04:39:56 < emeb> ds2: aha 2016-07-06T04:40:14 < emeb> doing modules like that is a special skillset. 2016-07-06T04:41:04 < emeb> ds2: is that pad array in the lower left a JTAG port? 2016-07-06T04:41:38 < dongs> R2COM: im STILL clicking down into the 'downloads' thing 2016-07-06T04:41:45 < dongs> it takes literally minutes between each refresh 2016-07-06T04:41:48 < dongs> what t he acutal fuck 2016-07-06T04:42:21 < dongs> WTF 2016-07-06T04:42:26 < dongs> and thats not even the downloads i need 2016-07-06T04:42:29 < dongs> WHAT TEH FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 2016-07-06T04:42:40 < dongs> Udev Rule To Support The ST Link/V2 1 On Linux 2016-07-06T04:42:41 < dongs> The archive contains the udev rule to support the ST-Link/V2-1 on Linux. 2016-07-06T04:42:41 < dongs> Extract the archive into /etc/udev/rules.d under root permission (sudo tar -xf stlink_udev_rule.tar.bz2 -C /etc/udev/rules.d) 2016-07-06T04:42:44 < dongs> ;lol 2016-07-06T04:42:50 < dongs> this is the only tarsh in t heir file galleries 2016-07-06T04:42:53 < dongs> after waiting like 10 mins for it to load 2016-07-06T04:44:02 < dongs> omg finally 2016-07-06T04:44:12 < dongs> Latest Windows 7 64 bit installer (Version v1.8, updated on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 16:25:43 CEST): install_sw4stm32_win_64bits-v1.8.exe or install_sw4stm32_win_64bits-v1.8.zip 2016-07-06T04:44:15 < dongs> The latest installer can always be retrieved from install_sw4stm32_win_64bits-latest.exe or install_sw4stm32_win_64bits-latest.zip 2016-07-06T04:44:40 < dongs> http://www.ac6-tools.com/downloads/SW4STM32/install_sw4stm32_win_32bits-latest.zip http://www.ac6-tools.com/downloads/SW4STM32/install_sw4stm32_win_64bits-latest.zip 2016-07-06T04:44:44 < dongs> clickable wihtout login? 2016-07-06T04:45:05 < dongs> yes, lol. 2016-07-06T04:45:08 < dongs> now i dont need their dumb site. 2016-07-06T04:46:08 < ds2> emeb: yes. untested 2016-07-06T04:48:27 < dongs> http://www.ac6-tools.com/downloads/SW4STM32/ even better url 2016-07-06T04:51:28 < ds2> emeb: those are tagconnect patterns. not just pad arrays 2016-07-06T04:51:42 < ds2> dongs: would you happen to know of cheap sources for 0.050 connectors 2016-07-06T04:51:56 < dongs> you mean 1.27mm pitch stuff? 2016-07-06T04:52:30 < dongs> chinagirl has them super cheap, i just buy them in 2x5 blocks, SMT 2016-07-06T04:54:12 < ds2> yeah 2016-07-06T04:54:23 < ds2> is 2x23 an option? 2016-07-06T04:54:32 < dongs> yeah, they just break them up 2016-07-06T04:54:33 < ds2> know what's the MOQ on those? 2016-07-06T04:54:36 < dongs> lets see 2016-07-06T04:54:48 < ds2> connectors for that thing is like $20 :( 2016-07-06T04:55:02 < dongs> wait is that through hole or SMT? 2016-07-06T04:55:11 < dongs> looks through hole from the awful pic 2016-07-06T04:57:10 < dongs> ds2: ? 2016-07-06T04:57:13 < dongs> through hole or smt 2016-07-06T04:57:51 < ds2> TH 2016-07-06T04:57:56 < ds2> sorry 2016-07-06T04:58:06 < ds2> dealing with 5things at once 2016-07-06T04:59:28 < dongs> so jus standard shit like http://media.digikey.com/photos/Sullins%20Photos/GRPB082VWVN-RC.JPG but 2 row, 23 per row right 2016-07-06T04:59:33 < dongs> (46 contact total) 2016-07-06T04:59:37 < dongs> (in 1.28mm 2016-07-06T04:59:40 < dongs> er 1.27 2016-07-06T04:59:48 < ds2> yes 2016-07-06T04:59:58 < ds2> let me find the samtec number 2016-07-06T04:59:58 < dongs> it will likely be cheaper to get 30 or 36 (im checking wat the standard length is) and just snip them 2016-07-06T05:00:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T05:00:47 < dongs> yewah i know 2016-07-06T05:00:51 < dongs> samtec is lolripoff 2016-07-06T05:00:58 < ds2> FTS-123-01-L-D 2016-07-06T05:01:11 < ds2> they are $$ but I like getting the mcad models 2016-07-06T05:01:22 < ds2> 30 or 36 and snipping works for me 2016-07-06T05:01:42 < ds2> problem is I can't find any soures (even the newark house brand) that will sell them cheap 2016-07-06T05:02:02 < ds2> 2x10's I think were the only cheap one (that's the other connector) 2016-07-06T05:02:29 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T05:02:32 < dongs> lol why does that samtec have some weird teeth on them 2016-07-06T05:02:37 < dongs> is that to make it easier to snap? 2016-07-06T05:02:59 < ds2> *shrug* 2016-07-06T05:03:30 < ds2> the Fsomething company had some cheap but the MOQ was a bit steep 2016-07-06T05:03:38 < ds2> FCI 2016-07-06T05:05:17 < dongs> looks like 40 is the stanadrd length 2016-07-06T05:05:25 < dongs> so you can get both 23 and 10pin out of a single stick 2016-07-06T05:05:28 < dongs> by snapping 2016-07-06T05:05:39 < dongs> + extra lifetime supply of 2x5 headers for swd 2016-07-06T05:06:19 < dongs> k system workbench installed 2016-07-06T05:09:08 < ds2> 'k let me go through that 2016-07-06T05:09:44 < ds2> problem with snapping is dealing with losses from a bad snap 2016-07-06T05:11:17 < ds2> ohsix: too few pins 2016-07-06T05:11:34 < ds2> ohsix: newark has the smaller ones under a house brand that is cheaper 2016-07-06T05:11:38 < ds2> Comp something 2016-07-06T05:11:51 < ds2> I used the smaller ones for another product 2016-07-06T05:12:23 < dongs> ds2: 2x50, 0.154/pc, 200 per bag 2016-07-06T05:12:36 < dongs> 30bux for a bag of 200 you'll nveer run out of 2016-07-06T05:13:07 < dongs> even if you break every one but 10 by snapping it wrong, you've already got it chaper than digikey. 2016-07-06T05:13:35 < ds2> blah no live quotes 2016-07-06T05:13:42 < ds2> dongs: wow... where? 2016-07-06T05:13:57 < ds2> at 0.154 a piece, I can afford to break quite a few 2016-07-06T05:14:02 < dongs> ds2: like i said, chinagirl, you can order + paypal and it'll be at your place in a few days 2016-07-06T05:14:05 < dongs> yes 2016-07-06T05:14:23 < ds2> dongs: 'k... let me reshift my stuff around and bug you again later 2016-07-06T05:14:32 < dongs> ^_^ 2016-07-06T05:14:35 < ds2> been looking at designing out connectors 2016-07-06T05:14:38 < ds2> thanks! 2016-07-06T05:14:52 < dongs> 50 should cleanly do 23x2 2016-07-06T05:14:58 < dongs> you can pull the extra pins in teh middle 2016-07-06T05:15:00 < dongs> and snap it there 2016-07-06T05:15:15 < dongs> without worrying about the snap thing fucking up 23rd pin 2016-07-06T05:15:16 < ds2> now if I can get a similar price for 2x23 females ;) 2016-07-06T05:15:25 < dongs> also TH? should be doable. 2016-07-06T05:15:29 < ds2> yes TH 2016-07-06T05:15:36 < ds2> but female don't snap nicely 2016-07-06T05:15:56 < dongs> right, i've got some like that pre-cut by chinks and they looked kinda poop 2016-07-06T05:16:04 < dongs> i didnt bother doing hte cutting myself 2016-07-06T05:16:15 < dongs> tryin to find if I have a pic 2016-07-06T05:16:25 < ds2> i have cut them myself for 0.1 stuff 2016-07-06T05:16:43 < dongs> ah yeah found, mine were single row 1.27 shrouded female 2016-07-06T05:16:51 < ds2> now I got to recalculate my new estimated COGS 2016-07-06T05:16:52 < dongs> so the extra cut place just looks rough 2016-07-06T05:17:04 < ds2> single row is a lot easier 2016-07-06T05:17:25 < dongs> right 2016-07-06T05:17:35 < ds2> but if I can similar prices... even labor to cut in the US isn't that much 2016-07-06T05:19:08 < dongs> yeah headers are the biggest scam 2016-07-06T05:19:14 < dongs> like the 2.54mm 3row stuff that RC shit uses 2016-07-06T05:19:25 < dongs> you can't even buy 3x?? right angle stuff in most places 2016-07-06T05:19:29 < dongs> and if you can, its liek $3/connector 2016-07-06T05:19:37 < dongs> that shit is like $20/bag of 100 or something 2016-07-06T05:19:39 < ds2> FCI had decent prices but their MOQ was around 1000-2000 if not 5000 2016-07-06T05:20:33 < ds2> the next trick is to see if I can do impedence controlled on the RGMII port 2016-07-06T05:21:14 < emeb> ds2: yeah - tagconnect 2016-07-06T05:22:11 < dongs> blogconnect 2016-07-06T05:23:00 < ds2> if it wasn't for MCAD,I would have been so screwed with the tagconnect 2016-07-06T05:23:27 < emeb> ds2: why's that? 2016-07-06T05:23:59 < dongs> ds2: what height for female 2016-07-06T05:24:01 < dongs> 4.3 or 3.4 2016-07-06T05:24:02 < ds2> emeb: need to clear the BGA and everything but I barely have room. So the spring pin section was modeled to just clear it 2016-07-06T05:24:08 < ds2> dongs: I can use either 2016-07-06T05:24:27 < emeb> ds2: aha - the 3D modeling to ensure all the parts clear 2016-07-06T05:24:38 < emeb> ds2: is that micro SD one of the flip-up types? 2016-07-06T05:24:39 < ds2> there are 3 widths - spring pins, lower plastics, upper plastics/overmold 2016-07-06T05:24:43 < ds2> emeb: yep 2016-07-06T05:25:15 < emeb> ds2: makes sense - need that because so much stuff around it that would block a simple insert type 2016-07-06T05:26:18 < emeb> ds2: you need to get some kind of non-default avatar on your tweety account. When it's just an egg like that it makes you look like a bot account. 2016-07-06T05:26:50 < ds2> emeb: good point... I'll update it later. probally make it the logo 2016-07-06T05:26:57 < emeb> ds2: +1 2016-07-06T05:29:04 < dongs> https://twitter.com/zanoconspiracy best twitter avatar ever 2016-07-06T05:29:58 < ds2> haven't used twitter much up til last month or so 2016-07-06T05:30:24 < dongs> ugh i need to drag out my ASI testing stuff 2016-07-06T05:30:38 < dongs> people bought shit and i have no idea if it works or not 2016-07-06T05:33:12 < emeb> oops 2016-07-06T05:35:21 < dongs> looks like it works 2016-07-06T05:35:29 < dongs> hm i can now see 270mhz asi on my scope, to 2016-07-06T05:35:43 < emeb> nice 2016-07-06T05:35:46 < emeb> what scope? 2016-07-06T05:36:00 < dongs> the mdo4104-6 2016-07-06T05:36:45 < emeb> that's a spendy bit of gear 2016-07-06T05:36:55 < dongs> no longer manufactured, so its like an antique 2016-07-06T05:37:10 < dongs> thats why my DPO4034 is on sale, hint hint 2016-07-06T05:37:19 < emeb> still like $15k on ebay 2016-07-06T05:37:44 < dongs> it has a rainfall spectrum thing like a $3 sdr! 2016-07-06T05:37:51 < emeb> heh 2016-07-06T05:38:18 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T05:41:04 < emeb> dongs: that DPO4034 is out of my league 2016-07-06T05:42:50 < dongs> riglol it is then 2016-07-06T05:42:55 < dongs> supposedly hte new ones arent even that awful 2016-07-06T05:43:04 < emeb> looking at instek 2016-07-06T05:43:16 < emeb> 4chl 200MHz 2Gsps for < $2k 2016-07-06T05:43:57 < dongs> does it become 50mhz if you use all 4 channels? 2016-07-06T05:44:14 < emeb> apparently not - full rate on all chls 2016-07-06T05:45:31 < dongs> is tehre no comparable riglol in same price range? 2016-07-06T05:45:45 < dongs> cuz you know no real MAKE:Rs use instek 2016-07-06T05:45:51 < emeb> heh 2016-07-06T05:46:25 < dongs> https://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/mso4000/ 2016-07-06T05:46:47 < dongs> buy 200mhz, get free 350mhz upgrade 2016-07-06T05:47:17 < dongs> oh wtf 2016-07-06T05:47:20 < dongs> they said 'starting at $19999 2016-07-06T05:47:25 < dongs> it fucking costs as much as a tek 2016-07-06T05:47:30 < emeb> lol 2016-07-06T05:47:31 < dongs> 6800 for MSO4034 2016-07-06T05:48:52 < dongs> ds2: lol, 0.17 for pre-cut females. 2x23 4.3mm 2016-07-06T05:49:02 < emeb> heard so many horrible things about rigol - can't take 'em seriously 2016-07-06T05:49:19 < dongs> emeb: yep BUT you can use the hax.exe to enable all the secret stuff 2016-07-06T05:49:25 < dongs> duno if anyone makes somethin like that for instek 2016-07-06T05:50:48 < dongs> hmm 2016-07-06T05:50:49 < emeb> doubt it 2016-07-06T05:50:54 < dongs> rigol really doesnt have anything in that price range 2016-07-06T05:51:00 < dongs> its either all the toy DS1000 shit 2016-07-06T05:51:03 < dongs> or tek-level pricing 2016-07-06T05:52:14 < emeb> I've been there. 2016-07-06T05:52:32 < emeb> I lived in OR for a while - buddy worked there. 2016-07-06T05:52:34 < dongs> you should ask ohsix to find the perfect scope for you 2016-07-06T05:52:39 < dongs> he's got plenty of time 2016-07-06T05:52:43 < dongs> when hes not watching important american TV 2016-07-06T05:52:46 < emeb> It was just surplus stuff - that was 30 yrs ago. 2016-07-06T05:53:53 < dongs> hmm 2016-07-06T05:54:08 < dongs> i should port this asi stuff i have running on xilinx cpld to the icecube shit 2016-07-06T05:54:49 < dongs> k wahtever, enough assburgering 2016-07-06T06:05:43 < dongs> ds2: pingpong 2016-07-06T06:06:59 < Simon--> dongs: have DS4014, haxored to 500MHz. it's ...riglol 2016-07-06T06:07:16 < dongs> hax0red eh 2016-07-06T06:07:23 < dongs> so you buy hardware that already can do 500mhz eh? 2016-07-06T06:07:27 < dongs> even tho youre paying for 200 or wahtever? 2016-07-06T06:07:31 < Simon--> 100, yah 2016-07-06T06:07:31 < dongs> or 100 2016-07-06T06:07:32 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-06T06:07:33 < dongs> wow 2016-07-06T06:07:35 < dongs> see emeb ^ 2016-07-06T06:07:48 < dongs> how much was it 2016-07-06T06:08:24 < Simon--> about the price it is now. $2300ish. this was before ds1054z existed 2016-07-06T06:08:38 < dongs> cool 2016-07-06T06:08:54 < dongs> sounds likea deal for 500 2016-07-06T06:08:56 < dongs> mhz 2016-07-06T06:09:19 < emeb> eh 2016-07-06T06:10:02 < Simon--> has some super annoying stuff like it feels like it's using an atmega8 to draw the trigger line 2016-07-06T06:10:34 < Simon--> and decode options kind of "cooperatively multitask" with the trace updates 2016-07-06T06:11:16 < emeb> I've heard that the rigol UI is kinda clunky 2016-07-06T06:11:27 < dongs> tek draws UI on FPGA 2016-07-06T06:11:29 < dongs> its kinda weird 2016-07-06T06:11:37 < dongs> on windows-based scopes, they just send screen bits over pcie 2016-07-06T06:11:43 < dongs> that are drawn in a fpga framebuffer 2016-07-06T06:11:54 < dongs> like thier triggering/rendering shit is all on fpga 2016-07-06T06:12:49 < dongs> fuck 2016-07-06T06:12:55 < dongs> japs sent me invitation email to some event 2016-07-06T06:13:03 < dongs> cant auto-add to google calendar because they used full-width numbers 2016-07-06T06:13:04 < dongs> for the date 2016-07-06T06:13:12 < dongs> have to manually fucking type it in 2016-07-06T06:16:05 < Simon--> oh, and they seem to have no understanding of gamma / logarithmic display of multiple traces 2016-07-06T06:16:32 < Simon--> the brightness knob literally just multiplies it and is basically useless 2016-07-06T06:17:12 < Simon--> luckily you can kind of prod it into different modes that sort of do this unintentionally (dot display, anti-aliasing mode, etc) 2016-07-06T06:18:38 < Simon--> for my purposes, I'd probably be fine with 10MHz of bandwidth but still 4 channels or MSO 2016-07-06T06:18:43 < dongs> i still havent figured out wtf 'FastAcq' mode is for on my shit 2016-07-06T06:18:52 < dongs> it draws some colorful pattern isntead of usual yellow traces 2016-07-06T06:31:54 < dongs> R2COM: no idea, it started to a blank exclipse 2016-07-06T06:31:59 < dongs> couldnt figure out what to do from t here 2016-07-06T06:32:00 < dongs> closed it 2016-07-06T06:32:06 < dongs> lol 2016-07-06T06:48:37 < dongs> ok lets see 2016-07-06T06:52:55 < upgrdman> dongs, wuts a fullwidthnumber 2016-07-06T06:53:03 < upgrdman> some .jp thing? 2016-07-06T06:53:11 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-06T06:53:17 < dongs> chinks have htem too 2016-07-06T06:53:41 < dongs> http://www.linkstrasse.de/en/%EF%BD%86%EF%BD%95%EF%BD%8C%EF%BD%8C%EF%BD%97%EF%BD%89%EF%BD%84%EF%BD%94%EF%BD%88%EF%BC%8D%EF%BD%83%EF%BD%8F%EF%BD%8E%EF%BD%96%EF%BD%85%EF%BD%92%EF%BD%94%EF%BD%85%EF%BD%92 2016-07-06T06:53:42 < upgrdman> lol what is it, like numbers in the local language instead of 1,2,3... ? 2016-07-06T06:53:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::3e56] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T06:53:47 < dongs> nope 2016-07-06T06:53:49 < dongs> just literally 2016-07-06T06:53:53 < dongs> double-width leters 2016-07-06T06:53:58 < dongs> that are same width as kanji/etc shit 2016-07-06T06:54:05 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-07-06T06:54:07 < dongs> instead of "half-width' for ascii 2016-07-06T07:22:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T07:22:57 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-06T07:22:57 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T07:45:09 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-06T07:45:18 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T07:46:17 < jadew> R2COM, I do 2016-07-06T07:52:05 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T07:55:27 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-06T07:55:32 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-06T08:20:45 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T08:26:44 < jadew> if you can get past Dave's interruptions, it's a very interesting interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JwNmdV2QPs 2016-07-06T08:27:57 < jadew> I want one of those small personal satellites too, but I have no application in mind for them 2016-07-06T08:28:37 < jadew> bragging rights alone is not enough 2016-07-06T08:30:19 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T08:32:01 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'm having a little trouble telling if a program s running. I think I have it downloaded, but gdb shows lots of ???? and breakpoints aren't working. It's an ebay clone of a stlinkv2, and an ebay stm32f103c8t6 2016-07-06T08:38:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T08:43:27 < Jak_o_Shadows> yeah, openocd. 2016-07-06T08:43:39 < Jak_o_Shadows> I don't think my problem is communicating with the board, but instead the actual code 2016-07-06T08:45:11 < Jak_o_Shadows> ip? 2016-07-06T08:45:33 < Jak_o_Shadows> same thing as program counter? 2016-07-06T08:46:42 < Jak_o_Shadows> it shouldn't be " m" after "reset halt" should it 2016-07-06T08:48:00 < Jak_o_Shadows> haha 2016-07-06T08:53:02 < Jak_o_Shadows> aha 2016-07-06T08:53:06 < Jak_o_Shadows> good job copy pasting jak 2016-07-06T08:53:15 < Jak_o_Shadows> 0xbc08bcf8 2016-07-06T08:54:05 < Jak_o_Shadows> yup! 2016-07-06T08:57:23 < Jak_o_Shadows> could I have the linker script wrong? 2016-07-06T09:00:46 < Jak_o_Shadows> Do I want to be using the arm-none-eabi objdump? 2016-07-06T09:04:32 < Jak_o_Shadows> Not entirely sure what I'm looking at 2016-07-06T09:04:59 < Jak_o_Shadows> the ".text.startup.main" has a size of 0x40 (64), which is how much flash I have 2016-07-06T09:05:12 < Jak_o_Shadows> .data, .bss, .text has no size 2016-07-06T09:06:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> nooo 2016-07-06T09:07:49 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T09:08:57 < dongs> autism levels all time high 2016-07-06T09:09:17 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'm using the libopencm3 way of auto-making the linker script 2016-07-06T09:09:20 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-06T09:11:54 < Jak_o_Shadows> hmm. 2016-07-06T09:12:07 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have some headers connected to BOOTx 2016-07-06T09:12:40 < Jak_o_Shadows> Nope, nothing for VMA. File offset is 34 2016-07-06T09:13:12 < dongs> Fucking great 2016-07-06T09:13:15 < dongs> looks like molex changed website 2016-07-06T09:13:34 < dongs> MOLEX.COM IS TEMPORARILY DOWN. PLEASE TRY AGAIN LATER. 2016-07-06T09:13:34 < dongs> oh 2016-07-06T09:13:35 < dongs> not even 2016-07-06T09:13:38 < dongs> just fucking DEAD 2016-07-06T09:13:40 < dongs> great 2016-07-06T09:13:43 < dongs> FUCKING GREAT 2016-07-06T09:16:54 < Jak_o_Shadows> hmm. Moving those BOOTX pins significantly changed the reset pc 2016-07-06T09:19:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> oh yeah, that makes some sense 2016-07-06T09:21:25 < dongs> $5 paypal to anyone except ohsix for finding me a working online datasaheet for Molex 1051330011 2016-07-06T09:21:32 < dongs> that has dimensional drawing 2016-07-06T09:23:34 < Jak_o_Shadows> http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/1051330011_sd.pdf ? 2016-07-06T09:23:55 < dongs> did you click on it 2016-07-06T09:23:59 < dongs> their site is down for maintenance. 2016-07-06T09:24:07 < dongs> I know where to get it if it was working. 2016-07-06T09:24:12 < Jak_o_Shadows> I did click it 2016-07-06T09:24:23 < dongs> mouser cached "datasheet" is just a printscreen of thier fucking webpage 2016-07-06T09:24:25 < dongs> and? 2016-07-06T09:24:30 < dongs> HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found. 2016-07-06T09:24:31 < dongs> Internet Information Services (IIS) 2016-07-06T09:24:32 < dongs> i get a 404 2016-07-06T09:24:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T09:24:36 < Jak_o_Shadows> weird 2016-07-06T09:24:46 < dongs> k trying on my usa machien 2016-07-06T09:24:58 < dongs> maybe their azn server is down or soemthign 2016-07-06T09:25:06 < Jak_o_Shadows> works from aus 2016-07-06T09:25:47 < Jak_o_Shadows> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104809629/1051330011_sd.pdf anyway 2016-07-06T09:26:35 < dongs> 404 from USA too 2016-07-06T09:26:41 < dongs> thanks, msg me your paypalz 2016-07-06T09:30:27 < Jak_o_Shadows> ahaha 2016-07-06T09:33:57 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T09:35:43 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/programming/Make-arduino-code-easy/ 2016-07-06T09:35:48 < dongs> thats a tough one 2016-07-06T09:35:54 < dongs> not sure if you acn make tarduino code that much easier 2016-07-06T09:37:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T09:37:35 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-160.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T09:42:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-06T09:43:35 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-06T09:50:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-160.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-06T09:53:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-160.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T09:59:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T10:01:50 < dongs> zyp, beep 2016-07-06T10:30:17 < upgrdman> dongs, didnt check in this case, but if you have a dead url, archive.org is a nice resource that kinda "backs up the internet" 2016-07-06T10:30:57 < dongs> upgrdman: yeah but i'm lazy 2016-07-06T10:31:03 < dongs> the guy somehow loaded/found it 2016-07-06T10:31:05 < dongs> i dont care 2016-07-06T10:31:09 < dongs> molex still down for me 2016-07-06T10:31:10 < dongs> what a fucking joke 2016-07-06T10:31:13 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-06T10:31:18 < dongs> i duno if archive.orgo archives molex datashets anyway 2016-07-06T10:31:35 < dongs> Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt. 2016-07-06T10:31:35 < dongs> See www.molex.com robots.txt page. Learn more about robots.txt. 2016-07-06T10:35:11 < upgrdman> lol @ second-to-last thread title here http://www.openstm32.org/forum7 2016-07-06T10:35:44 < dongs> is that R2COM post 2016-07-06T10:35:51 < dongs> How to program in c++ by AC6 2016-07-06T10:36:02 < dongs> Top 7 Questions to Ask When Hiring a Professional Packers and Movers in Bangalore 2016-07-06T10:36:05 < dongs> Home Shifting Made Much Simpler By Premium Movers and Packers Pune 2016-07-06T10:36:11 < dongs> home shitting made simpler 2016-07-06T10:36:13 < dongs> FTFY 2016-07-06T10:36:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec29cba-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T10:38:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-160.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-06T10:40:23 < dongs> haha 2016-07-06T10:40:25 < dongs> englishman is on strike 2016-07-06T10:40:26 < dongs> ecause of Canada Post work disruption since July 1, all order will be arranged ship from China 2016-07-06T10:40:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-160.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T10:40:53 < upgrdman> englishbro is in .ca ? 2016-07-06T10:40:55 < dongs> y 2016-07-06T10:42:29 < upgrdman> no 2016-07-06T10:43:31 < upgrdman> just installed today in a test vm. the fuckers didnt include stdperiphlib or cube, and afaict, there is no way to me to tell it where my copy is. theres just a download button in their eclipse wizard. so like 400MB over internet in .cn ... fuck that. gave up for now 2016-07-06T10:44:03 < upgrdman> ya for a project soon i get to pick the mcu. and it sure as fuck wont be some lpc aids or 8051 from anal devices 2016-07-06T10:44:29 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@46.194.156.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T10:44:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec29cba-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-07-06T10:44:36 < upgrdman> ya :) 2016-07-06T10:44:44 < dongs> i installed SW4STM today 2016-07-06T10:44:46 < dongs> started it 2016-07-06T10:44:49 < dongs> couldnt find what to do 2016-07-06T10:44:50 < dongs> closed 2016-07-06T10:44:58 < dongs> it installed on like c:\ac3\shitstudio or something 2016-07-06T10:44:59 < dongs> or ac6 2016-07-06T10:45:00 < upgrdman> dongs, new project > c > stm32 shits 2016-07-06T10:45:47 < dongs> new C project? 2016-07-06T10:45:52 < dongs> oh, Ac6 STM23 MCU project 2016-07-06T10:45:57 < upgrdman> ya that 2016-07-06T10:46:05 < dongs> k lets see if I can get this filth to build 2016-07-06T10:46:18 < upgrdman> that also the docs on their website if you need cockholding 2016-07-06T10:46:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::3e56] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-06T10:46:46 < dongs> theri website is slow as shit 2016-07-06T10:46:53 * upgrdman nods 2016-07-06T10:47:39 < dongs> hm 2016-07-06T10:47:45 < dongs> wondr if I can make shit using existing code 2016-07-06T10:48:03 < dongs> i have a building make.exe type thing 2016-07-06T10:48:24 < upgrdman> from the lil i read of the docs, it'll be a clustfuck of you adapting shit for ac6 2016-07-06T10:48:38 < dongs> lets find out 2016-07-06T10:49:17 < dongs> 15:49:09 Build Finished (took 9s.536ms) 2016-07-06T10:49:20 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-07-06T10:49:20 < dongs> worked out of hte bawx 2016-07-06T10:49:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-160.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T10:49:55 < upgrdman> 10s build, wtf is it, 2MB flash project? 2016-07-06T10:50:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T10:50:04 < dongs> no its java in VM 2016-07-06T10:50:07 < dongs> and new build 2016-07-06T10:50:09 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-06T10:50:20 < upgrdman> is that free or $ 2016-07-06T10:50:28 < dongs> 15:50:28 Build Finished (took 121ms) 2016-07-06T10:50:45 < dongs> gonna try with stdink 2016-07-06T10:52:32 < dongs> An error has occurred. See error log for more details. 2016-07-06T10:52:33 < dongs> java.lang.NullPointerException 2016-07-06T10:52:34 < dongs> fuck 2016-07-06T10:52:36 < dongs> there goes that 2016-07-06T10:53:12 < upgrdman> how do you see java error on the mcu? debugger? semidicking? 2016-07-06T10:53:23 < dongs> no this is dicklipse crashing 2016-07-06T10:53:28 < dongs> cuz "make file project" didn't "define a board" 2016-07-06T10:53:29 < upgrdman> o lol 2016-07-06T10:53:33 < dongs> and it popped up a define board dialog 2016-07-06T10:53:37 < dongs> which crashes 2016-07-06T10:53:41 < upgrdman> nice 2016-07-06T10:53:44 < dongs> pretty pro shit here 2016-07-06T10:53:51 < upgrdman> typical french design, it just surrenders 2016-07-06T10:56:11 < upgrdman> is that some show on the Historectomy Channel 2016-07-06T10:56:49 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-06T10:56:51 < upgrdman> bbl 2016-07-06T10:56:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T10:57:51 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T11:03:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-06T11:12:43 < Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm. If I use get the map out, should the length of the ram (and rom) match what I define in the .ld file? 2016-07-06T11:12:49 < Jak_o_Shadows> Like, the origins do 2016-07-06T11:15:35 < dongs> fuckign eclipse wow 2016-07-06T11:18:44 < Jak_o_Shadows> In memory configuration, where it says length, would that be in kB or B? 2016-07-06T11:23:20 < Jak_o_Shadows> HOORAY 2016-07-06T11:23:27 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have a blinking LED! 2016-07-06T11:23:37 < Jak_o_Shadows> It was something to do with the linker script 2016-07-06T11:24:59 < dongs> woot 2016-07-06T11:25:03 < dongs> i think i figured out how to fix it 2016-07-06T11:25:37 < Jak_o_Shadows> Wasn't the linker script per say (that's being autogenerated by libopencm3), but the linker flags 2016-07-06T11:25:53 < dongs> Error in final launch sequence 2016-07-06T11:25:53 < dongs> Failed to execute MI command: 2016-07-06T11:25:53 < dongs> -target-select remote localhost:3333 2016-07-06T11:25:53 < dongs> Error message from debugger back end: 2016-07-06T11:25:53 < dongs> localhost:3333: The system tried to join a drive to a directory on a joined drive. 2016-07-06T11:25:59 < dongs> openocd , oh fucking 2016-07-06T11:26:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> I mean, mostly cause I don't have a huge idea of what's going on 2016-07-06T11:27:09 < dongs> wow 2016-07-06T11:27:09 < dongs> it worked 2016-07-06T11:27:24 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T11:27:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.255] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T11:27:33 < dongs> debugging is SLOW but owrks 2016-07-06T11:38:24 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-design-Schematic-Modification-ALTIUM/ 2016-07-06T11:38:28 < dongs> haha 2016-07-06T11:38:29 < dongs> pcb "modification" 2016-07-06T11:38:32 < dongs> wat a joke 2016-07-06T11:38:36 < dongs> draw schematic + layout 2016-07-06T11:38:38 < dongs> .. for $100, no 2016-07-06T11:38:40 < dongs> maybe ohsix? 2016-07-06T11:48:41 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@46.194.156.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T11:48:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.156.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T11:49:50 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-07-06T12:03:19 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/u/RegulViktor.html 2016-07-06T12:03:23 < dongs> $4/hr 2016-07-06T12:03:26 < dongs> attn aandrew 2016-07-06T12:05:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T12:12:59 < dongs> if I ever need any sch/pcb work done and I'm lazy, I'm hiring this guy @ $/hr 2016-07-06T12:13:06 < dongs> 4/hr 2016-07-06T12:14:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T12:22:46 < dongs> upgrdman: SW4STM32 success 2016-07-06T12:22:58 < dongs> found a way to import makefile project, then turn it into board project that shit can build 2016-07-06T12:23:08 < dongs> very easy, and code builds/works as-is 2016-07-06T12:23:23 < dongs> debug worked also with openOCDAIDS 2016-07-06T12:23:30 < upgrdman> cool, how? 2016-07-06T12:23:57 < dongs> basically, make "makefile project from exsiting code" first 2016-07-06T12:24:08 < dongs> then make a new blank C proj w/board you wanna support 2016-07-06T12:24:19 < dongs> then go to project properties in the makefile thing 2016-07-06T12:24:29 < dongs> create new profile, and import settings from the "blank C proj" 2016-07-06T12:24:34 < dongs> which includes th board/etc shit 2016-07-06T12:24:44 < dongs> looks like eclipse feature 2016-07-06T12:25:46 < dongs> project properties -> C/C++ Build/Settings 2016-07-06T12:25:52 < dongs> in there, on makefile project it will be mostly fail 2016-07-06T12:26:07 < dongs> so go to configurations, manage, make new, and in that new dialog pick the 2nd working proj as a base 2016-07-06T12:26:15 < dongs> then it all works 2016-07-06T12:26:56 < dongs> it might throw out some eclipse erorrs at firs ttime 2016-07-06T12:26:58 < dongs> so just repeat again 2016-07-06T12:27:08 < upgrdman> noted. thx, will try it 2016-07-06T12:27:26 < dongs> should work for any buildable makefile proj. i only have one to test with so i dunno :P 2016-07-06T12:49:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T12:59:31 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T13:15:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.127] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T13:27:17 < dongs> jscat2b switchover starting today 2016-07-06T13:30:06 < BrainDamage> more like j-scat 2016-07-06T13:38:42 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T13:42:19 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-06T13:44:14 -!- Warm_T [tjkapane@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-meyoldjmbjospwle] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-06T13:47:34 < dongs> so true 2016-07-06T13:51:23 < upgrdman> the eev videos with the rover guy are super interesting. i wish dave would have just stfu, he keeps interrupting the guy 2016-07-06T13:51:33 < dongs> precisely 2016-07-06T13:51:36 < dongs> he sholud shut hte FUCK UP 2016-07-06T13:51:39 < dongs> and close his fucking channel 2016-07-06T14:02:06 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T14:02:14 < upgrdman> anyone here up on 3d printer tech? whats the best setup for like 1000usd total cost? like printer, couple spools, shipping, tax.... 1000 2016-07-06T14:02:31 < dongs> upgrdman: buy my gookpals thing 2016-07-06T14:02:48 < dongs> fast, quiet, huge area (by MAKE:R standards) etc 2016-07-06T14:02:55 < dongs> and you can fuck wiht LPCtrash 2016-07-06T14:03:15 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-06T14:03:28 < upgrdman> link? 2016-07-06T14:03:44 < dongs> i can fax you some specs 2016-07-06T14:03:49 < dongs> no link 2016-07-06T14:04:06 < dongs> i wish teh fucker would stop changing shit 2016-07-06T14:04:08 < dongs> and fucking start selling 2016-07-06T14:04:22 < dongs> everything works and every fucking day I hear hes redoing something else 2016-07-06T14:04:45 < upgrdman> fax lol 2016-07-06T14:05:12 < upgrdman> gook = viet? 2016-07-06T14:05:48 < dongs> north korea 2016-07-06T14:06:42 < upgrdman> kinda want to get something popu'ar 2016-07-06T14:06:47 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-06T14:06:55 < dongs> so when your TARDUINO breaks 2016-07-06T14:06:59 < dongs> you can get more shitty spare parts 2016-07-06T14:07:07 < upgrdman> so i can pay for it with dicktube ad revenue wjen i made vids with it 2016-07-06T14:07:44 < upgrdman> my maker vids are like 99% of my ad revenue 2016-07-06T14:08:08 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/oSqqpbg.jpg lets ese $1000 FDM MAKE:R trash do this 2016-07-06T14:09:49 < dongs> https://gigaom.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2014/12/img_5262.jpg 2016-07-06T14:09:51 < dongs> typical MAKE:R print 2016-07-06T14:10:36 < dongs> tho usually 2016-07-06T14:10:39 < dongs> its more something like this: http://66.media.tumblr.com/cbf6528467f1d715924b9fddf1b8dbf7/tumblr_moc63xtOl31sukl1qo1_1280.jpg 2016-07-06T14:11:06 < upgrdman> wuts your thing? 2 in the pink 1 in the stink toy? 2016-07-06T14:11:14 < dongs> ya 2016-07-06T14:11:17 < dongs> what else would i print besides dongs 2016-07-06T14:11:33 < dongs> actually its that microbot trash from blog hero 9 2016-07-06T14:11:37 < upgrdman> o nm, rest of photo just loaded 2016-07-06T14:11:37 < upgrdman> i was lookong at like top third of your photo 2016-07-06T14:11:44 < dongs> ol chian 2016-07-06T14:13:21 < upgrdman> ya stillcwaiting for the other two links to load 2016-07-06T14:15:37 < Laurenceb> dongs: still FDM trash 2016-07-06T14:16:20 < dongs> yes FDM trash 2016-07-06T14:16:40 < dongs> but working FDM trash 2016-07-06T14:18:03 < Laurenceb> SLS >> FDM 2016-07-06T14:18:15 < dongs> > $1000 2016-07-06T14:18:18 < dongs> > SLS 2016-07-06T14:18:18 < dongs> k 2016-07-06T14:18:29 < Laurenceb> I just pay for time on one of these http://www.eos.info/systems_solutions/plastic/systems_equipment/formiga_p_110 2016-07-06T14:18:41 < Laurenceb> ~ $50/Litre 2016-07-06T14:19:09 < upgrdman> how much for sls printer 2016-07-06T14:19:15 < upgrdman> like 10k? 2016-07-06T14:19:16 < Laurenceb> megabucks 2016-07-06T14:19:27 < Laurenceb> prob a lot more than 10k 2016-07-06T14:19:36 < upgrdman> ya fuk dat 2016-07-06T14:19:49 < Laurenceb> but who cares, just order the parts from somewhere with the machine 2016-07-06T14:19:58 < upgrdman> maybe i should just get a laser cutter. 2016-07-06T14:20:12 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T14:20:29 < Laurenceb> wtf 2016-07-06T14:20:30 < Laurenceb> http://clipair.epfl.ch/ 2016-07-06T14:21:07 < Laurenceb> legalising cannabis was a bad idea 2016-07-06T14:26:43 < jadew> if I was to travel with that, they'd better put me in the part that's not detachable 2016-07-06T14:27:15 < BrainDamage> in the turbine? 2016-07-06T14:27:40 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-06T14:27:47 < jadew> they have a nice cockpit 2016-07-06T14:28:01 < jadew> that looks like a good spot 2016-07-06T14:28:31 < jadew> if one of the modules on the sides falls off, they'll have to drop the one on the other side too 2016-07-06T14:28:41 < dongs> haha 2016-07-06T14:29:04 < Laurenceb> I blame Tectu 2016-07-06T14:30:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-06T14:31:45 < dongs> zyp: fucking beep 2016-07-06T14:32:03 < dongs> 12 hours IDLE 2016-07-06T14:33:35 < upgrdman> lolwut https://i.imgur.com/sjb7wUX.jpg 2016-07-06T14:34:03 < dongs> is that in beijing dvd rental shop 2016-07-06T14:34:11 < dongs> or are you browsin faggot 2016-07-06T14:34:12 < dongs> er faggit 2016-07-06T14:34:24 < upgrdman> the latter 2016-07-06T14:35:09 < upgrdman> not my photo, but this sums up china pretty well http://i.imgur.com/lE1tfyK.jpg 2016-07-06T14:35:43 < dongs> is that a pool 2016-07-06T14:35:46 < dongs> or a stadium 2016-07-06T14:36:21 < upgrdman> its a bowl of shit 2016-07-06T14:36:31 < upgrdman> sums up cn very well 2016-07-06T14:37:17 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-06T14:37:30 < Laurenceb> stadiumgirl 2016-07-06T14:37:43 < upgrdman> 2girls1stadium 2016-07-06T14:39:11 < upgrdman> oh i took some short 4k videos of the wasteland im in, will upload when im in the 1st world 2016-07-06T14:39:43 < dongs> they'll keep you there for a while 2016-07-06T14:39:49 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vRECYh7G3UE 2016-07-06T14:40:13 < karlp> upgrdman: how much revenue do you really get form your vids? 2016-07-06T14:40:23 < dongs> SECRET 2016-07-06T14:40:24 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/5rWM3Tj.jpg 2016-07-06T14:40:30 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Py-RV87Jk1s 2016-07-06T14:41:07 < jadew> :( that's so sad... 2016-07-06T14:41:11 < jadew> wtf 2016-07-06T14:41:14 < upgrdman> karlp, average like 40usd per month pre tax. not much, but i'll see if i can grow it or not 2016-07-06T14:41:47 < upgrdman> avg 20,000 views per month 2016-07-06T14:42:24 < dongs> daym 2016-07-06T14:42:27 < dongs> you the make:R pro 2016-07-06T14:42:28 < upgrdman> mostly makers 2016-07-06T14:42:31 < dongs> i think i get $4/month 2016-07-06T14:42:32 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-07-06T14:42:33 < dongs> lets see 2016-07-06T14:42:51 < karlp> hm, not bad. 2016-07-06T14:43:15 < dongs> damn 2016-07-06T14:43:17 < dongs> my top vids are useless now 2016-07-06T14:43:25 < upgrdman> also, pi people seem smarter than ardutards. but noy by much 2016-07-06T14:43:44 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3bRjH059g and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baq9wZ3-wTM 2016-07-06T14:43:49 < dongs> neither of which brings any fucking revnue 2016-07-06T14:44:35 < jadew> so how many views do you need for $40/mo? 2016-07-06T14:44:42 < dongs> about 40k 2016-07-06T14:44:49 < jadew> no way... 2016-07-06T14:44:51 < upgrdman> ya makers are like 99pct of that 40usd 2016-07-06T14:44:52 < jadew> that's insane 2016-07-06T14:44:52 < dongs> yes 2016-07-06T14:44:59 < dongs> insane? thats like one video 2016-07-06T14:45:12 < jadew> 40k views sounds like a lot 2016-07-06T14:45:27 < jadew> the crap I watch seems to always have < 10k views 2016-07-06T14:46:01 < upgrdman> like i said, 20k views... 40usd. but maker ads pay better than others. prolly 40k or 50k views needed if nonmaker 2016-07-06T14:47:22 < upgrdman> dongs make longer vids for more recenue 2016-07-06T14:48:13 < upgrdman> my stats this month are 22k views equalling 133k minutes of watch time. 2016-07-06T14:49:10 < dongs> i need to just start including "raspberry pi" in all my video titles 2016-07-06T14:49:29 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1NQHARleRA also i should just finish and sell this 2016-07-06T14:49:31 < upgrdman> yes 2016-07-06T14:49:45 < upgrdman> or esp8266 or whatevs 2016-07-06T14:49:49 < dongs> this one and DJI vids have brought most of my $ in 2016-07-06T14:49:59 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1467672246221.jpg 2016-07-06T14:50:23 < dongs> infact 2016-07-06T14:50:31 < dongs> the rageberry video is #1 2016-07-06T14:50:32 < dongs> holy shit 2016-07-06T14:50:40 < dongs> i think i just had an ohsix moment 2016-07-06T14:50:45 < dongs> gonna monetize that shit 2016-07-06T14:51:04 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_P-54lzDc 2016-07-06T14:51:07 < jadew> do you guys talk in your videos? 2016-07-06T14:51:08 < dongs> this is also a pretty good money maker 2016-07-06T14:51:15 < dongs> upgradongs does 2016-07-06T14:51:22 < dongs> he talks for hours 2016-07-06T14:51:26 < dongs> about make:R shit 2016-07-06T14:51:26 < jadew> hehe 2016-07-06T14:51:29 < dongs> i couldnt do that 2016-07-06T14:51:43 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-06T14:51:55 < upgrdman> im trying the maker teacher gig 2016-07-06T14:52:01 < jadew> I want to make videos too, but I have a weird accent 2016-07-06T14:52:11 < upgrdman> we'll see if it pans out 2016-07-06T14:52:12 < dongs> use TTS like ST pros 2016-07-06T14:52:35 < upgrdman> jadew, so does the hydr press fucker. people love accents. 2016-07-06T14:52:50 < upgrdman> tts? 2016-07-06T14:53:42 < dongs> upgrdman: like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC4eLphcdXM 2016-07-06T14:54:13 < Laurenceb> lulwut 2016-07-06T14:54:20 < Laurenceb> dat voiceover 2016-07-06T14:54:25 < jadew> I don't think it's TTS 2016-07-06T14:54:27 < dongs> thats tts 2016-07-06T14:54:28 < dongs> yes it is 2016-07-06T14:54:34 < jadew> it's probably auto-tune 2016-07-06T14:54:42 < dongs> that is 100% tts 2016-07-06T14:54:52 < jadew> if it's TTS, it's awesome 2016-07-06T14:55:02 < Laurenceb> yeah it pretty pro 2016-07-06T14:55:06 < Laurenceb> but still sounds weird 2016-07-06T14:55:26 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpqZq67UnS8 this is not TTS 2016-07-06T14:55:45 < Laurenceb> lulz 2016-07-06T14:55:53 < upgrdman> too slow to watch vid in cn 2016-07-06T14:55:54 < jadew> dongs, yeah, but they could have had an actor read it and then do the cher thing 2016-07-06T14:56:03 < dongs> jadew: nah. it is tts. 2016-07-06T14:56:05 < upgrdman> tts is text to speach? 2016-07-06T14:56:07 < dongs> yes 2016-07-06T14:56:11 < upgrdman> ah k 2016-07-06T14:56:16 < dongs> there's no way a human can sound so fucking monotonous for 10 minutes 2016-07-06T14:56:24 < dongs> with zero intonation changes 2016-07-06T14:56:37 < dongs> or spell things out like that 2016-07-06T14:57:04 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfrJi13aXRs lol wat 2016-07-06T14:57:07 < dongs> they have jap shit 2016-07-06T14:57:22 < dongs> jap sounds ok 2016-07-06T14:57:30 < dongs> i'd say native 2016-07-06T14:57:37 < jadew> arigato gozaimas! 2016-07-06T14:58:08 < upgrdman> japs http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/man-given-4-5-year-prison-term-for-cutting-off-lawyers-penis 2016-07-06T14:58:22 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T14:58:42 < BrainDamage> with japs you never know if they've been nuked too hard or too little 2016-07-06T14:58:43 < jadew> "swords and firearms control law" 2016-07-06T15:00:08 < jadew> they didn't reattach it? 2016-07-06T15:00:37 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCpHthg3k3I 2016-07-06T15:00:41 < jadew> "I remember the case, Kotsugai flushed the penis down the loo" 2016-07-06T15:02:25 < jadew> similar story from romanian news: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1540135/Stressed-doctor-cuts-off-patients-penis.html 2016-07-06T15:02:36 < BrainDamage> that's st's conf room in agrate brianza 2016-07-06T15:03:05 < dongs> ya? 2016-07-06T15:03:38 < BrainDamage> i have a friend that works there, maybe i should tell him to report how much good their libs are 2016-07-06T15:03:48 < dongs> upgrdman: ^ see imgur link 2016-07-06T15:04:16 < dongs> BrainDamage: thats not gonna help, they KNOW how great the libs are 2016-07-06T15:04:58 < dongs> that guy is actually jadew 2016-07-06T15:04:59 < upgrdman> looks nice 2016-07-06T15:04:59 < dongs> "It is hard for a man who wants to have sex, yet lacks the organ. My wife is the best thing I have." 2016-07-06T15:05:06 < upgrdman> such nyan 2016-07-06T15:05:07 < dongs> i heard him say almost exactly same thing in this channel 2016-07-06T15:05:35 < jadew> lol 2016-07-06T15:09:20 < upgrdman> o lol the cn site that sent me free shit to reviews carried the presa printer. i should ask for it for review 2016-07-06T15:09:37 < dongs> haha 2016-07-06T15:09:37 < upgrdman> prusa* 2016-07-06T15:10:30 < upgrdman> "so the 10dof was nice, gimme a 3d dicker plz" 2016-07-06T15:11:25 < dongs> http://forums.reprap.org/file.php?4,file=35076,filename=coupling.jpg 2016-07-06T15:11:30 < dongs> this is highest quality print from a prusa 2016-07-06T15:11:31 < Laurenceb> http://shop.prusa3d.com/292-thickbox_default/original-prusa-i3-mk2-3d-printer.jpg 2016-07-06T15:11:36 < Laurenceb> like it printed that 2016-07-06T15:11:37 < dongs> http://forums.reprap.org/file.php?4,file=35077,filename=cup.jpg 2016-07-06T15:11:49 < dongs> http://forums.reprap.org/file.php?4,file=35078,filename=cup_inside.jpg 2016-07-06T15:11:56 < dongs> http://forums.reprap.org/file.php?4,file=35079,filename=herringbone1.jpg 2016-07-06T15:12:02 < dongs> http://forums.reprap.org/file.php?4,file=35080,filename=herringbone2.jpg 2016-07-06T15:13:07 < Laurenceb> clearly we need https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m 2016-07-06T15:13:34 < dongs> fucking aids 2016-07-06T15:13:37 < dongs> 20k almost 2016-07-06T15:13:42 < dongs> for chink trash pcbs 2016-07-06T15:14:18 < Laurenceb> I'm tempted to clone it 2016-07-06T15:14:34 < Laurenceb> but I doubt I could kickscam very much $ 2016-07-06T15:14:43 < upgrdman> lolol at ending http://i.imgur.com/YhkX0RC.gifv 2016-07-06T15:14:47 < dongs> industrual servo for RASPBERRY PI 2016-07-06T15:15:40 < Laurenceb> whyyy 2016-07-06T15:15:45 < Laurenceb> arg wtf 2016-07-06T15:15:55 < Laurenceb> hobbytronics can't cut my stencils 2016-07-06T15:16:08 < Laurenceb> they need outlines as dxf format 2016-07-06T15:16:53 < jadew> lol upgrdman 2016-07-06T15:17:11 < Laurenceb> so much fail 2016-07-06T15:17:17 < upgrdman> :) 2016-07-06T15:17:43 < Laurenceb> probably going to ask me to compensate for laser width too 2016-07-06T15:18:15 < Sync> haha 2016-07-06T15:19:00 < upgrdman> nice entry http://i.imgur.com/st4dkcS.gifv 2016-07-06T15:22:24 < Laurenceb> anyone got any idea how to convert a dxf file to outlines? 2016-07-06T15:22:41 < dongs> ? 2016-07-06T15:22:44 < dongs> dxf IS outlines 2016-07-06T15:22:47 < dongs> the fuck are you tralkin about 2016-07-06T15:22:50 < Laurenceb> arg wut 2016-07-06T15:22:52 < dongs> talking 2016-07-06T15:23:00 < Laurenceb> hobbtronics must be failing hard 2016-07-06T15:23:13 < Laurenceb> time to cancel order and get refund 2016-07-06T15:24:06 < dongs> teh fuck is hobbytrollnigs 2016-07-06T15:24:12 < dongs> are they cutting mylar shit or osmething? 2016-07-06T15:24:21 < dongs> or proper metal 2016-07-06T15:24:38 < dongs> why would you ever send anything other than gerber paste layer to a stencil outfit 2016-07-06T15:26:45 < Laurenceb> The dxf file seems to have pads rather than lines. The laser cutter needs lines to cut the stencil. 2016-07-06T15:26:47 < Laurenceb> WTF 2016-07-06T15:27:14 < Laurenceb> regards Sarah 2016-07-06T15:27:20 < Laurenceb> MGTOW mode activated 2016-07-06T15:29:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T15:30:07 < Laurenceb> status: cancelling order 2016-07-06T15:31:50 < dongs> .wut 2016-07-06T15:31:53 < dongs> why did you send a dxf 2016-07-06T15:31:55 < dongs> in the first place 2016-07-06T15:31:56 < dongs> ?????????? 2016-07-06T15:32:19 < Laurenceb> cuz they asked for dxf "cuz no software to process gerbers" 2016-07-06T15:32:34 < dongs> are they cutting fucking plastic shit 2016-07-06T15:32:39 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-07-06T15:32:59 < Laurenceb> UKP8.50, its not worth all this shit 2016-07-06T15:33:06 < Laurenceb> trying somewhere else 2016-07-06T15:33:36 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_XC-120_Packplane 2016-07-06T15:33:50 < jadew> Laurenceb, or you could wait a couple of days, the GBP will be worth less 2016-07-06T15:33:58 < dongs> Laurenceb: chinagirl can cut them for like <$20 for metal and dhl next day is like $18 2016-07-06T15:34:00 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-06T15:34:05 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-07-06T15:34:14 < dongs> plastic is just fucking trash 2016-07-06T15:35:24 < Laurenceb> crt: yeah www.chinesewifes.com/ 2016-07-06T15:36:04 < jadew> wow, some of them are hot 2016-07-06T15:37:10 < jadew> so what's the deal? you marry them and they stay with you until they can bring in their husband and children? 2016-07-06T15:38:21 < dongs> judenw, arent you married already 2016-07-06T15:38:41 < jadew> I can change my religion if necessary 2016-07-06T15:39:42 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSfu6TCXIM 2016-07-06T15:40:17 < Laurenceb> huehuehue 2016-07-06T15:40:47 < Laurenceb> Venkman831 month ago She might swim back 2016-07-06T15:40:50 < Laurenceb> irl lulled 2016-07-06T15:41:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.54] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T15:44:54 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDFyVp_LUuE 2016-07-06T15:54:40 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T15:56:26 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/57KmSC1.jpg 2016-07-06T15:56:43 < Laurenceb> http://www.theism-comics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/NSA.png 2016-07-06T15:59:47 < jadew> http://whotfetw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Flat-Earth-Memes-221-3.jpg 2016-07-06T16:02:09 < dongs> zyp: need designators copied/movies to mech3 and centered around parts. 2016-07-06T16:08:49 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctOBMFznkto 2016-07-06T16:11:34 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrlMgCwv4NE cloned 2016-07-06T16:11:51 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/67m7lR.jpg 2016-07-06T16:12:16 < Laurenceb> wut is it dongs 2016-07-06T16:12:24 < dongs> Laurenceb: see description 2016-07-06T16:12:41 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-06T16:14:47 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/bQpHkI.jpg 2016-07-06T16:22:21 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T16:41:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T16:51:40 < Shavik> If I need a particular member of a struct to be volatile, can I just set it to volatile or do I need to set the entire struct to volatile? 2016-07-06T16:54:06 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T16:54:06 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-06T16:54:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T16:56:08 < Getty> i am really confused why there are no ready ribbon cable on all big sellers here..... just because i am too stupid to make them shouldnt exclude me! 2016-07-06T16:56:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/zgEyWYC.gifv 2016-07-06T16:56:29 < Getty> right now like the only option is through amazon through some chinese.... farnell.... rs.... conrad.... nowhere i can find the cabels i need 2016-07-06T16:56:42 < dongs> Getty: usa? 2016-07-06T16:56:44 < Getty> dongs: clear that you liked that one ;) 2016-07-06T16:56:47 < Getty> dongs: no, germany 2016-07-06T16:56:49 < dongs> oh. 2016-07-06T16:56:51 < dongs> thats the problem 2016-07-06T16:56:55 < Getty> hehe 2016-07-06T17:04:15 < Getty> like they just assume "oh its germans they know how to make them themself" 2016-07-06T17:10:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T17:15:53 < Laurenceb> its easy with IDC 2016-07-06T17:15:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-06T17:18:46 < englishman> hawt 2016-07-06T17:20:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T17:21:07 < englishman> i can 2016-07-06T17:21:23 < englishman> http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/ss01e.html 2016-07-06T17:21:24 < englishman> ss-02 2016-07-06T17:21:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T17:21:52 < englishman> unless you want one of the big vacuum ones 2016-07-06T17:21:56 < dongs> hot pink tip 2016-07-06T17:22:09 < englishman> then id say thermaldonics, even though i dont have the desoldering vacuum all their other shit is legit 2016-07-06T17:22:35 < englishman> thermaldonics? 2016-07-06T17:22:48 < englishman> they probably never expected an aussie to know how to turn iton 2016-07-06T17:23:57 < englishman> lol 2016-07-06T17:24:11 < englishman> which handpiece did you get 2016-07-06T17:25:25 < englishman> did it come with a tip 2016-07-06T17:25:31 < englishman> i dono, i fucked up and bought the wrong tips once 2016-07-06T17:25:38 < englishman> but it didnt blow up, it just didnt work 2016-07-06T17:26:47 < dongs> are they overnighting a replacement 2016-07-06T17:26:49 < dongs> to your shack 2016-07-06T17:27:40 < englishman> maybe youre holding it wrong 2016-07-06T17:27:44 < dongs> ^ 2016-07-06T17:33:52 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T17:39:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T17:40:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T17:49:20 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T17:49:45 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T17:50:34 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1467799667376.webm 2016-07-06T17:51:14 < englishman> did you plan on posting something funny today Laurenceb 2016-07-06T17:51:16 < englishman> or just posting 2016-07-06T17:51:22 < dongs> no shit man 2016-07-06T17:51:28 < dongs> what was that last trash 2016-07-06T17:51:33 < dongs> not even remotely funny 2016-07-06T17:52:08 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FTpj6Rv.jpg need to figure out a way to break out this 2016-07-06T17:52:23 < dongs> without making a pcb 2016-07-06T17:52:29 < englishman> look 2016-07-06T17:52:29 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/BZ6HTf5.jpg 2016-07-06T17:52:32 < englishman> a cat with a gun 2016-07-06T17:52:33 < englishman> lol 2016-07-06T17:52:34 < englishman> funny! 2016-07-06T17:52:37 < englishman> Laurenceb: ^ 2016-07-06T17:53:01 < Laurenceb> not funny lame 2016-07-06T17:53:15 < Laurenceb> dongs: wire 2016-07-06T17:54:10 < dongs> yeah im hoping to avoid that 2016-07-06T18:05:18 -!- marble_visions [~user@89.190.193.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T18:05:57 < marble_visions> hi all, has anyone done stdio retargeting with DMA 2016-07-06T18:06:29 < marble_visions> i can do it without, but when i start using DMA, i need the printf buffer, which is hidden 2016-07-06T18:06:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-06T18:06:43 < marble_visions> otherwise it makes no sense to do DMA on putc() 2016-07-06T18:06:54 < dongs> yes, you cant 2016-07-06T18:06:59 < karlp> don't implement putc, implement _write... 2016-07-06T18:07:05 < karlp> but it will fuck you up anyway, 2016-07-06T18:07:21 < karlp> because someone will call pritnf again later, and your dma is still in progress and it all goes to shit 2016-07-06T18:07:22 < dongs> pretty sure exiting either pitc or write expects you to be done wiht buffer 2016-07-06T18:07:30 < karlp> yup 2016-07-06T18:07:55 < marble_visions> karlp: at the moment, i've retargetted fputc and fgetc 2016-07-06T18:08:08 < marble_visions> i don't see sys_write get called anywhere 2016-07-06T18:08:14 < dongs> why do you even care 2016-07-06T18:08:17 < marble_visions> _sys_wrtie* 2016-07-06T18:08:18 < dongs> about DMAing debug output 2016-07-06T18:08:43 < karlp> I said _write. 2016-07-06T18:09:14 < karlp> and still, dma'ing is going to get super awkward anyway when you start having to have your own double buffered shits and copies to make sure you can exit the calls properly. 2016-07-06T18:09:42 < marble_visions> dongs: just wondering.. karlp: thanks. yeah, double buffering was what i had in mind 2016-07-06T18:10:05 < dongs> marble_visions: buffer to your own shit in fputc/etc. set a flag when some bytes were added. check 2016-07-06T18:10:31 < dongs> from some other place, fire off dma when ther'es neough/timeout 2016-07-06T18:10:35 < dongs> seems like a lot of work 2016-07-06T18:10:37 < dongs> for not a lot of benefit 2016-07-06T18:10:52 < marble_visions> the buffer in fputc was another idea, but it needs a timer 2016-07-06T18:11:04 < dongs> or systick 2016-07-06T18:11:21 < dongs> Pump_Text() inside systick. 2016-07-06T18:11:38 < marble_visions> that's ugly 2016-07-06T18:11:51 < dongs> pUmpTeXT() 2016-07-06T18:11:55 < marble_visions> :D 2016-07-06T18:12:12 < marble_visions> i was wondering how to get away with it with minimal changes inside other code 2016-07-06T18:12:30 < marble_visions> karlp's suggestion is best 2016-07-06T18:12:33 < dongs> next question: why do you need DMA 2016-07-06T18:12:53 < Cicero-MF> Haha. I do a similar thing with dma for a debug output. Helps with debug output in interrupts if needed. 2016-07-06T18:13:05 < dongs> Cicero-MF: which, doublebuffer? 2016-07-06T18:13:48 < marble_visions> Cicero-MF: im trying to do debug output with this scheme as well. 2016-07-06T18:13:52 < Cicero-MF> yeah, slap whatever output I want into a buffer. And just check if there's anything in there from the systick 2016-07-06T18:14:12 < marble_visions> aaah, systick. 2016-07-06T18:14:57 < Cicero-MF> or sometime later, haha, it doesn't have to be systick 2016-07-06T18:16:11 < marble_visions> any forms of timeout, actually. 2016-07-06T18:16:34 < marble_visions> let's see if _write() does the trick. 2016-07-06T18:16:56 < Cicero-MF> I have a circular buffer it all goes into, so that just doesn't allow any more than it can take 2016-07-06T18:17:29 < Cicero-MF> Oh, just checked now, I check and send in a task, not systick. But the same principle applies 2016-07-06T18:17:37 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T18:19:07 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T18:21:12 < marble_visions> aha. 2016-07-06T18:22:17 < Cicero-MF> This is my debug printf http://pastebin.com/XFVkqdkm 2016-07-06T18:28:03 < dongs> http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article23121155.ab 2016-07-06T18:31:19 < marble_visions> vsprintf looks sexy 2016-07-06T18:32:40 < jadew> Laurenceb, what are people doing with their savings right now? 2016-07-06T18:32:57 < karlp> Cicero-MF: except the only interesting code is in the bit you left out? where's driveruart_debugout? 2016-07-06T18:33:02 < jadew> do they keep them in GBP in the hope that it will recover or do they try to invest? 2016-07-06T18:33:42 < karlp> dongs: what are wer looking at? 2016-07-06T18:34:36 < Laurenceb> jadew: dunno 2016-07-06T18:34:43 < Laurenceb> I have everything in GBP 2016-07-06T18:35:08 < jadew> yeah, I assume most british people do 2016-07-06T18:35:46 < jadew> I think this is an opportunity to make more money 2016-07-06T18:35:57 < jadew> if you play the exchange rate right 2016-07-06T18:36:05 < Cicero-MF> karlp, haha, fair enough, but not really. I thought thats all marble_visions really wanted. 2016-07-06T18:36:31 < Laurenceb> jadew: good idea 2016-07-06T18:36:32 < Cicero-MF> The driver_uart_debugOut just copies whatever's in text_buffer into a fifo circular buffer. 2016-07-06T18:38:34 < marble_visions> karlp: forgot to mention that I'm using MDK/Keil's include files. there's no _write there. any similar functions there? 2016-07-06T18:38:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-06T18:39:32 * karlp shrugs. read mdk's docs on retarget to see what your options are. 2016-07-06T18:39:41 < karlp> when in doubt call them, you're paying for support 2016-07-06T18:42:23 < marble_visions> true 2016-07-06T18:42:34 < marble_visions> thanks anyway for the input all 2016-07-06T18:43:34 < Cicero-MF> Here's the send karlp, marble_visions http://pastebin.com/1HZmwkCJ 2016-07-06T18:44:33 < marble_visions> Cicero-MF: 10x 2016-07-06T18:54:46 -!- marble_visions [~user@89.190.193.76] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-06T18:55:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-06T18:56:00 < Cicero-MF> no prob, clear the sDebugUart.debugTxBusy flag in the transfer complete interrupt 2016-07-06T19:02:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.156.186] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-06T19:02:06 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:02:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T19:10:07 < aandrew> I love it 2016-07-06T19:10:25 < aandrew> "Installing Windows Loader... This is not a genuine copy of windows. If you paid for it you should ask for a refund" 2016-07-06T19:12:12 < zyp> dongs, yeah, saw the mail 2016-07-06T19:12:16 < zyp> what's the purpose of that? 2016-07-06T19:12:33 < zyp> sounds annoying to do 2016-07-06T19:13:41 < jpa-> does someone want to guess what cpu is in CSR1000 chips? datasheet says "16-bit RISC" but some user guide seems to suggest it is just 8051 2016-07-06T19:15:06 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T19:15:15 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:19:42 -!- fishhead is now known as i8086 2016-07-06T19:19:42 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:24:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:25:34 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T19:27:04 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:28:31 < englishman> zyp: its so he can double check which components are which while dicknplacing 2016-07-06T19:28:44 < englishman> or something 2016-07-06T19:28:52 < englishman> to supplement xy data in gerbs 2016-07-06T19:29:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:30:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.195.215] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T19:31:21 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T19:31:48 < zyp> sounds like a lot of hassle for little benefit 2016-07-06T19:32:09 < englishman> dono, takes 2 minutes 2016-07-06T19:32:16 < ReadError> assembly drawing? 2016-07-06T19:32:24 < ReadError> they really fucked that up in 16 2016-07-06T19:34:24 < englishman> no, just putting refdes on a mechanical layer 2016-07-06T19:34:35 < englishman> i like draftsman 2016-07-06T19:34:48 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-06T19:34:57 < ReadError> in before 16 you had it on top/bottom 2016-07-06T19:35:08 < ReadError> in 16 you have a linked pair but only shit on 1 side 2016-07-06T19:35:08 < zyp> englishman, if you're doing that, might as well add it to the footprints themselves 2016-07-06T19:35:16 < ReadError> so you gotta go through and modify every fucking footprint 2016-07-06T19:35:33 < englishman> zyp: how do you know refdes when making footprints? 2016-07-06T19:35:42 < ReadError> .Designator 2016-07-06T19:35:49 < ReadError> convert special strings 2016-07-06T19:35:56 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-06T19:35:59 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T19:36:02 < zyp> there's template shit like that 2016-07-06T19:36:27 < englishman> oh yeah 2016-07-06T19:36:30 < englishman> or that 2016-07-06T19:36:31 < ReadError> can i run a query/select against an entire pcb lib? 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2016-07-06T20:51:13 < emeryth> one DMA channel timer-triggering SPI TX, and a second one copying from SPI RX to DAC? 2016-07-06T20:51:45 < emeryth> on f0 2016-07-06T21:01:25 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T21:02:24 < jpa-> emeryth: yeah, that sounds about it 2016-07-06T21:03:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-06T21:09:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f5dc:e6a8:ac2f:4516] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T21:20:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.195.215] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-06T21:28:29 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T21:30:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.241] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T21:31:27 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T21:40:51 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-06T21:46:38 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T21:49:53 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T21:52:08 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/WFzNtU.jpg 2016-07-06T21:53:47 < ReadError> i dont get it 2016-07-06T21:53:49 < ReadError> unfunny 2016-07-06T21:55:17 < aandrew> it's a dude in a dress 2016-07-06T22:00:24 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T22:15:53 < kakimir> what is going on 2016-07-06T22:16:37 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T22:16:46 < kakimir> I'm assuming brits 2016-07-06T22:17:33 < emeb> Hmmm... "Drew Fustini wants to be friends with you on Facebook." 2016-07-06T22:22:08 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKN1hwZnVjX3NSSzA/view?usp=sharing load cell tension springs installed 2016-07-06T22:22:12 < kakimir> ovenupdate 2016-07-06T22:23:32 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T22:31:53 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-06T22:36:55 < ReadError> ? 2016-07-06T22:37:56 < kakimir> ovenupdate/generic weight scale feet desing update 2016-07-06T22:38:30 < ReadError> i duno whats going on there 2016-07-06T22:38:35 < ReadError> whats the springs and shit for 2016-07-06T22:38:46 < kakimir> connect to load cell 2016-07-06T22:38:54 < kakimir> 2 of them 2016-07-06T22:39:12 < kakimir> bury them with hx711 board there 2016-07-06T22:39:25 < kakimir> some vref level reg supply 2016-07-06T22:40:47 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-06T22:41:16 < kakimir> I decided to move all them analog sensors to external I2C bus to controler box 2016-07-06T22:41:44 < kakimir> remove smas bolted to box.. but maybe one for door 2016-07-06T22:42:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-06T22:42:33 < kakimir> for thermocouples I have some MAX66something board made by me 2016-07-06T22:42:45 < kakimir> I2C there too 2016-07-06T22:50:57 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T22:56:52 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T23:04:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-06T23:11:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T23:19:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-06T23:23:19 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKeXZ5WUJiOTgzSFE/view?usp=sharing is this how load cell is properly used? 2016-07-06T23:25:05 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-06T23:25:35 < kakimir> maker guides wont tell how to do it properly 2016-07-06T23:28:41 < kakimir> do I need to apply force with momentum arm or from directly above the center point? 2016-07-06T23:29:04 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-06T23:29:26 < kakimir> I tried bending that thing and if you bend it wrong it shows nothing 2016-07-06T23:31:19 < kakimir> I imagine it would require not to just move up and down 2016-07-06T23:31:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T23:32:49 < kakimir> but roll in order to cause differential in up and down lenght 2016-07-06T23:33:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T23:36:48 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKUGo4cjNHbklpQnc/view?usp=sharing ? 2016-07-06T23:38:07 < ReadError> i use the middle between the screw holes 2016-07-06T23:38:17 < ReadError> it calibrates right *shrug* 2016-07-06T23:39:15 < kakimir> okay so both are wrong 2016-07-06T23:40:10 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHl24QynOM 2016-07-06T23:40:14 < kakimir> so I connect the pull string between them holes? 2016-07-06T23:40:15 < ReadError> is this typical .se shit? 2016-07-06T23:40:28 < kakimir> it is 2016-07-06T23:42:32 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-06T23:43:42 < BrainDamage> i never thought in my life i'd see the words racing and tractor in the same sentence 2016-07-06T23:44:21 < kakimir> there is tractor racing class 2016-07-06T23:44:32 < kakimir> or multiple ones 2016-07-06T23:44:36 < kakimir> terrain track 2016-07-06T23:44:50 < kakimir> certain type of model 2016-07-06T23:45:06 < BrainDamage> at last he has plenty of rubber to burn trought drifting 2016-07-06T23:49:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T23:50:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-06T23:53:13 < kakimir> ReadError: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKWGRPZWoweVJNX00/view?usp=sharing like this scientific graphics show? 2016-07-06T23:53:34 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-06T23:55:50 < kakimir> http://www.althensensors.com/public/media/Produktbilder/1b_Kraftmesstechnik/AOBUH-installation-606x1000.jpg see where load point at 2016-07-06T23:56:29 < kakimir> so is there scale error by which side of such plate you butt the object to? 2016-07-06T23:56:35 < kakimir> because momentum 2016-07-06T23:56:54 < kakimir> or does it magically not affect too much 2016-07-06T23:58:05 < kakimir> okay I have to just.. test the shiet 2016-07-06T23:58:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu Jul 07 2016 2016-07-07T00:06:25 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T00:10:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-07T00:11:48 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T00:22:17 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T00:25:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.227.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T00:39:32 < zyp> fuck, I managed to break apart a new fucking microsd card 2016-07-07T00:39:55 < Sync> nice 2016-07-07T00:40:11 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T00:42:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.227.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T00:45:07 < zyp> I pulled a board out of an enclosure and forgot to take out the microsd first 2016-07-07T00:45:35 < zyp> so it got stuck on it, and my solution to that was to apply more force until it broke in two 2016-07-07T00:47:14 < Sync> nice 2016-07-07T00:47:48 < kakimir> now cry 2016-07-07T00:48:06 < zyp> meh, it was cheap 2016-07-07T00:48:10 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T00:48:13 < zyp> like 800 yen 2016-07-07T00:49:05 < zyp> only problem is I'm not in japan anymore, so I can't really just go out and pick up another cheap card tomorrow 2016-07-07T00:49:23 < zyp> hmm, maybe I can, idk wtf microsd cards cost in norway nowadays 2016-07-07T00:50:37 < kakimir> you have 10000eur paycheck anyways 2016-07-07T00:50:44 < kakimir> as norwegean 2016-07-07T00:51:15 < zyp> doesn't mean I want to waste it on overpriced microsd cards 2016-07-07T00:54:44 < kakimir> in norway cool house costs 1Meur? 2016-07-07T00:55:11 < kakimir> not talking about chateau 2016-07-07T00:55:17 < kakimir> just house 2016-07-07T00:55:58 < kakimir> I plan to buy a bus 2016-07-07T00:57:43 < kakimir> live in it 2016-07-07T01:15:26 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrObZ_HZZUc interesting London detail 2016-07-07T01:23:42 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T02:06:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T02:07:37 < Shavik> https://gyazo.com/ed1f216484ae4b953b67c2849d253f45 Welp, STM32Cube Audio Class USB Device stack is not happy. About to try an empty project with their CDC framework. 2016-07-07T02:13:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:19:41 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-07T02:20:10 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:20:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T02:30:33 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.30.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:30:36 < wanderman> :) 2016-07-07T02:34:01 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T02:36:35 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-07T02:37:11 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:38:40 * wanderman plays mandown 2016-07-07T02:45:05 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:52:59 < carabia> ohsix, he fucked up one too many times, so i put a bullet in his eye, then i put two more into him just to make sure :-) 2016-07-07T02:55:45 < carabia> t-t-tango down 2016-07-07T02:55:46 < dongs> oh my 2016-07-07T02:55:48 < dongs> another BLM thing 2016-07-07T02:56:07 < dongs> https://twitter.com/illygirlBreA/status/750802202495557632 2016-07-07T02:56:08 < dongs> lol 2016-07-07T02:56:12 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:56:13 < carabia> yeah, let's all get reminded of black rights because they are the number one hot issue. 2016-07-07T02:57:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T02:59:59 < Laurenceb__> freaking finally 2016-07-07T03:00:01 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/QThruster/comments/4riv6u/special_announcement_1701a_test_n10a73f/?st=iqbjps8q&sh=56010ad2 2016-07-07T03:00:11 < Laurenceb__> last emdrive project btfo 2016-07-07T03:00:13 < dongs> lol emfdrive 2016-07-07T03:05:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T03:05:46 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-07T03:07:07 < dongs> this is what laurence/b/ reads before goin to sleep 2016-07-07T03:28:54 < kakimir> ET wants to go home 2016-07-07T03:29:13 < kakimir> ET needs propulsion unitz 2016-07-07T03:30:21 < anton02> lots of racists around the world are starting to be elected into government. most recently pauling hanson in australia 2016-07-07T03:32:07 < anton02> "After the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting, Hanson posted a video to her Facebook site calling for a ban on Muslim immigration to Australia. Stating that, "We have laws here that we don’t bring in pitbull terriers because they are a danger to our society… we have laws to protect Australians", she stated that Australia had to take a strong stance against Muslims, Islam, its teaching and its beliefs." 2016-07-07T03:33:08 < anton02> " December 2006 The Age reported that Australian Greens leader, Senator Bob Brown had labelled Hanson a "bloodsucker" over her suggestion that Africans are bringing AIDS into Australia." 2016-07-07T03:34:28 < kakimir> thanks for epic rasistic populist news anton02 2016-07-07T03:38:21 < kakimir> how much power foreign intelligence agencies have in europe? 2016-07-07T03:39:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f5dc:e6a8:ac2f:4516] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-07T03:40:33 < anton02> lol at them including the left pic to make it more believable that the top right pic is actually her http://nnimg-a.akamaihd.net/silverstone-feed-data/a8e52b22-7f28-4ed3-8e0d-aafd5cdb9209.jpg 2016-07-07T03:47:45 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T03:57:55 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5gjrq_9t_s 2016-07-07T03:58:30 -!- wander___ [~wanderman@202.153.82.201] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T03:58:31 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.30.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T04:07:38 -!- wander___ [~wanderman@202.153.82.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-07T04:09:36 < kakimir> you sell leds? 2016-07-07T04:11:00 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T04:57:18 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T04:59:02 < dongs> dang 2016-07-07T04:59:10 < dongs> i found a super pro QC2.0 IC for superchargerpro 2016-07-07T04:59:13 < dongs> up to 36V in 2016-07-07T04:59:19 < dongs> so i can run them all from 19V laptop jack 2016-07-07T04:59:33 < dongs> dickstarter imminent 2016-07-07T05:00:03 < dongs> zyp: err, i dont see email with reply tho 2016-07-07T05:00:05 < dongs> i kinda need it ~now~ 2016-07-07T05:00:53 < dongs> lol bro 2016-07-07T05:01:02 < dongs> have you seen any USB charger/pwoerbhank shit on dickstarter 2016-07-07T05:01:07 < dongs> its pure profit everytime 2016-07-07T05:01:27 < dongs> yes 2016-07-07T05:01:30 < dongs> but it doesnt matter 2016-07-07T05:01:38 < dongs> R2COM: there's nothing on ebay/amazon wiht per-port OLED showing voltage/current and shit 2016-07-07T05:01:46 < dongs> and SUPER FAST CHARGING 2016-07-07T05:01:56 < dongs> also: manyports 2016-07-07T05:02:05 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T05:02:12 < dongs> and even if there is 2016-07-07T05:02:18 < dongs> that hasnt stopped evry other charger dickstarter 2016-07-07T05:02:24 < dongs> from bringing in hundreds of thousands 2016-07-07T05:20:00 < dongs> dickstarter doesnt actually need anytyhing working right>>???? 2016-07-07T05:20:02 < dongs> so tomorrow is ok 2016-07-07T05:44:37 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T05:51:09 < dongs> fuckin zyp 2016-07-07T05:59:01 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T06:00:22 -!- __rob2 [~rob@5.80.66.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T06:02:48 -!- __rob [~rob@host86-165-132-167.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T06:06:44 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T06:23:59 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T06:27:37 < anton02> #marijuana on quakenet has 400 people 2016-07-07T06:32:05 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aa7ba.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 2016-07-07T06:32:38 < dongs> black lives matter 2016-07-07T06:34:00 < dongs> http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/man-arrested-for-placing-condom-full-of-semen-in-high-school-girls-bag 2016-07-07T06:34:06 < dongs> thats why zyp left japan quickly 2016-07-07T06:38:55 < ReadError> http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/2-teens-arrested-for-extorting-y2-3-mil-from-classmate 2016-07-07T06:38:56 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-07T06:39:02 < ReadError> thats like $23k 2016-07-07T06:39:34 < dongs> "without their knowledge" lmao 2016-07-07T06:39:39 < dongs> fuckin japs are loaded 2016-07-07T06:39:49 < ReadError> yea, misplacing 23k 2016-07-07T06:40:01 < ReadError> who even keeps that much cash around 2016-07-07T06:40:20 < dongs> well, japs do 2016-07-07T06:40:30 < ReadError> better yet how the hell did he come up with this idea that paying them would do anything 2016-07-07T06:40:40 < dongs> thats only 230 papers 2016-07-07T06:40:42 < ReadError> if they can get 23k that easy they will go for more 2016-07-07T06:43:36 -!- mumptai 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englishman> ulink pro is pretty nice tho 2016-07-07T08:48:32 < englishman> stlink has a slight advantage on price 2016-07-07T08:50:24 < dongs> 6700 AUD is wat, like $60 USD give or take right 2016-07-07T08:50:51 -!- maenthrie [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-btfqysirhabtezio] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-07T08:51:15 < dongs> the fucking vendor keeps replying to thread with single messages 2016-07-07T08:51:19 < dongs> i ahve like 3 pages in inbox now 2016-07-07T08:51:23 < dongs> #Re: fuck off 2016-07-07T08:51:30 < dongs> his shit software starts RE with a hash # 2016-07-07T08:51:35 < dongs> so google cant thread it 2016-07-07T08:52:02 < dongs> i tried sending a new message 2016-07-07T08:52:07 < dongs> with a diferent subject 2016-07-07T08:52:11 < dongs> thinking the old one was too long or soemthing 2016-07-07T08:52:12 < dongs> nope 2016-07-07T08:52:15 < dongs> fucker replied that one too with #Re 2016-07-07T08:52:23 -!- maenthrie 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It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-07-07T09:09:35 < jadew> ohsix, the only problem it's that it's VHDL and I only know verilog 2016-07-07T09:10:25 < jadew> ah 2016-07-07T09:11:30 < jadew> I think it would have been better if it was a real language 2016-07-07T09:12:48 < jadew> I can't see how you would run something on an edge 2016-07-07T09:12:58 < jadew> do I have to keep track of states? 2016-07-07T09:13:28 < zyp> just make some counter/divider thing 2016-07-07T09:13:35 < zyp> so yes, it needs to be stateful 2016-07-07T09:13:52 < jadew> zyp, it rates the "resources" it uses too 2016-07-07T09:14:15 < jadew> so if it's possible to trigger by edge, that would be a better way 2016-07-07T09:15:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T09:15:08 < jadew> yeah... not gonna waste time learning the language 2016-07-07T09:15:59 * jadew has real problems to tackle 2016-07-07T09:16:15 < zyp> I'm just guessing on the syntax of the language, and somehow I get it to work 2016-07-07T09:16:49 < jadew> zyp, did you look into that register stuff? 2016-07-07T09:17:05 < jadew> register(clock=$clk, clockEdge=Edge.RISING, 2016-07-07T09:17:05 < jadew> reset=$rst, resetValue=0, 2016-07-07T09:17:05 < jadew> resetSync=Sync.SYNC, resetType=Active.HIGH) uint a; 2016-07-07T09:17:21 < zyp> I skipped the second and picked it up from the fourth 2016-07-07T09:17:39 < jadew> is that somehow supposed to be allow you to do always @(posedge clk)? 2016-07-07T09:17:40 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T09:17:42 < jadew> ah 2016-07-07T09:17:49 < jadew> I'm stuck at the second one 2016-07-07T09:18:34 < jadew> ohsix, you can get a small CPLD 2016-07-07T09:21:13 < zyp> ok, solved the second one 2016-07-07T09:21:15 < zyp> it's stupid 2016-07-07T09:21:50 < zyp> in that the obvious shit didn't work 2016-07-07T09:22:20 < jadew> did you have to do state != old_state? 2016-07-07T09:22:48 < zyp> on the output, yes 2016-07-07T09:23:40 < zyp> I tried to make output a wire aliasing the third bit of the counter, but that made it high before reset got deasserted too, which is wrong 2016-07-07T09:24:32 < jadew> can't you combine it with reset 2016-07-07T09:24:33 < jadew> ? 2016-07-07T09:24:47 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-07T09:25:06 < jadew> & !reset 2016-07-07T09:25:10 < zyp> I tried, but somehow it wouldn't let me use $rst as a symbol 2016-07-07T09:25:19 < dongs> so zyp, your shit coulda been done today if you werent a cunt. it's ok tho, i'll waste time writing something to overlay xy to gerber cuz my time is worthless of course 2016-07-07T09:25:24 < dongs> ^_^ 2016-07-07T09:26:19 < zyp> dongs, what's the purpose of that shit anyway? 2016-07-07T09:27:04 < dongs> visual check on machine, stencil fags usualyl provide this data if I bitch at htem enough but i made that one in chinkland so they wouldnt hear any of it 2016-07-07T09:27:08 < zyp> jadew, oh, I just had to use && 2016-07-07T09:27:27 < zyp> dongs, ah 2016-07-07T09:28:03 < jadew> zyp, weird 2016-07-07T09:28:04 < zyp> anyway, I can fix it in a couple of hours or something 2016-07-07T09:28:22 < dongs> hokay. well, wahtever works, I have like 3 things queued now so I'll get to it when i can 2016-07-07T09:28:32 < dongs> parts have been sitting and counted just ~wasting~ 2016-07-07T09:30:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T09:36:04 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T09:38:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-07T09:40:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-23.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T09:41:00 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T09:45:12 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has left ##stm32 ["http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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2016-07-07T10:25:34 < dongs> Unigraf DPA-400 1.4 AUX Channel Monitor 2016-07-07T10:25:34 < dongs> CAD $7,495.00 2016-07-07T10:25:35 < dongs> haha 2016-07-07T10:25:50 < dongs> ya no 2016-07-07T10:27:20 < dongs> for $8k i'll tap into manchester shit and waste a day finishing writing code for it 2016-07-07T10:28:46 < jadew> https://www.new 2016-07-07T10:28:51 < jadew> sorry :( 2016-07-07T10:28:56 < dongs> jadew: i tihnk you just failed 2016-07-07T10:28:57 < dongs> hard 2016-07-07T10:29:10 < jadew> I did 2016-07-07T10:29:59 < dongs> tek has a displayport analysis module but one for their windows scopez 2016-07-07T10:30:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T10:37:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T10:37:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T10:39:27 < dongs> omg i found a dip8 socket 2016-07-07T10:39:40 < dongs> gonna glue that shit on top of it and solder wires in 2016-07-07T10:40:27 < jadew> if you're going to put it on top of a DIP8 IC, it will just stay there, no need to glue it 2016-07-07T10:41:19 < jadew> what are you doing? 2016-07-07T10:42:02 < dongs> no, dip8 socket 2016-07-07T10:42:11 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FTpj6Rv.jpg 2016-07-07T10:42:14 < dongs> i nee dto make a breakout for this 2016-07-07T10:42:19 < jadew> ah 2016-07-07T10:42:24 < jadew> hehe 2016-07-07T10:42:37 < jadew> might be faster to just etch a board 2016-07-07T10:42:55 < dongs> unlikely 2016-07-07T10:43:12 < jadew> you'll end up doing a lot of extra stuff for that improvised breakout out board 2016-07-07T10:43:24 < dongs> true 2016-07-07T10:44:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T10:45:00 < jadew> dongs, does it not fit on any other SMT to DIP adapters? 2016-07-07T10:45:39 < dongs> fuck tis gonna be a cunt 2016-07-07T10:45:44 < dongs> jadew: no i dont have any 2016-07-07T10:45:47 < jadew> ah 2016-07-07T10:45:48 < dongs> i dont dip adapter 2016-07-07T10:46:12 < jadew> they're useful for exactly these situations 2016-07-07T10:50:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T10:58:59 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:01:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-07T11:06:15 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T11:07:44 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:07:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T11:07:58 < Steffanx> But you are pumping more lately mr crt. 2016-07-07T11:12:37 < dongs> crt's job description: resoldering shit 2016-07-07T11:12:50 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:13:03 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T11:13:22 < dongs> couple quick pumps during breaks 2016-07-07T11:14:13 < dongs> 3/8 pins done 2016-07-07T11:19:50 < Steffanx> Desoldering business crt? Repairing crap or just desoldering? 2016-07-07T11:20:36 < dongs> hes authorized apple desolderer 2016-07-07T11:21:04 < Steffanx> Company not far from me makes a good amount of money repairing old but still neccessary industrial stuff. 2016-07-07T11:21:25 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:22:08 < Steffanx> Aussielander department of foxconn? 2016-07-07T11:22:23 < dongs> 5/8 2016-07-07T11:23:27 < Steffanx> Do you also have a gary, crt? 2016-07-07T11:23:51 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T11:24:31 < Steffanx> How can an aussie not know gary the goat. 2016-07-07T11:29:24 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T11:29:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.40] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:31:52 < Steffanx> Bettwr get some sleep crt 2016-07-07T11:32:19 < dongs> 7/8 2016-07-07T11:34:26 < dongs> lol waht the fuck do you have conference calls about 2016-07-07T11:34:32 < dongs> how to hold a s oldering iron? 2016-07-07T11:34:56 < Cicero-MF> hahaha 2016-07-07T11:34:59 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777c59.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T11:36:01 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:37:45 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/B6L4tGU.jpg 2016-07-07T11:38:11 < dongs> feelin' like a MAKE:R 2016-07-07T11:38:18 < jadew> good job 2016-07-07T11:42:51 < dongs> fuk 2016-07-07T11:42:54 < dongs> pin 2 is NC 2016-07-07T11:42:58 < dongs> didnt even need to solder it 2016-07-07T11:43:02 < dongs> time: wasted 2016-07-07T11:44:55 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T11:46:36 < qyx> whats that qfn thing 2016-07-07T11:50:59 < dongs> font rom, lol 2016-07-07T11:51:04 < dongs> so basicalyl ~spi flash 2016-07-07T11:52:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-07T11:53:58 < dongs> lets see if SPI1 or SPi3 is open on f4disco 2016-07-07T12:03:15 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/XcmjsvM.jpg time to get pro 2016-07-07T12:05:43 < dongs> firing up keil 2016-07-07T12:06:14 < Cicero-MF> what display is that? 2016-07-07T12:06:20 < Steffanx> Mr dongs, are you rating something? 5/8? 7/8? 2016-07-07T12:06:28 < dongs> Steffanx: no, see following pics 2016-07-07T12:07:38 < Steffanx> Oh. :P 2016-07-07T12:08:31 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T12:08:43 < Steffanx> Real chanfs style soldering. 2016-07-07T12:09:09 < dongs> almost 2016-07-07T12:10:57 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-07T12:17:38 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-07T12:23:11 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Linux/Fake-skype-conversation/ 2016-07-07T12:25:27 < jadew> lol 2016-07-07T12:32:50 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T12:40:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-23.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T12:42:40 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/B9VJzKf.gifv technical issues 2016-07-07T12:43:08 < dongs> fucking koalas 2016-07-07T12:43:22 < ReadError> sloth 2016-07-07T12:44:40 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/tVVrpQD.jpg 2016-07-07T12:45:32 < dongs> oldest adviceanimal ever 2016-07-07T12:50:06 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T12:50:06 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-07T12:50:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T12:52:57 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T12:56:27 < dongs> cool 2016-07-07T12:56:28 < dongs> font rom works 2016-07-07T12:56:38 < dongs> time to pull some jappu fontz 2016-07-07T13:00:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T13:05:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T13:07:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T13:08:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-23.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T13:13:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T13:16:00 < dongs> i bet 2016-07-07T13:50:31 < jadew> I just realized why some youtube videos have a lot of dislikes 2016-07-07T13:50:50 < jadew> it's because youtube plays them automatically 2016-07-07T13:51:09 < jadew> one moment you're listening to something you enjoy, the next moment you're listening some Justing Timberlake garbage 2016-07-07T13:51:50 < jadew> crt, you can, but it doesn't work very well 2016-07-07T13:52:16 < jadew> you can click those 3 dots under the video and then chose tell us why 2016-07-07T13:52:32 < jadew> you can then select "I don't like this channel" 2016-07-07T13:53:32 < jadew> yeah, but if you make the mistake of clicking on something shitty, it will haunt your forever 2016-07-07T13:54:26 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-07T13:54:32 < jadew> but who has time to clean all that crap up? 2016-07-07T13:55:04 < jadew> I didn't even watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOPS-bJpIxo 2016-07-07T13:55:08 < jadew> and it's in my history list 2016-07-07T13:56:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-07T13:58:24 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T14:03:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T14:04:07 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-07T14:04:48 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T14:04:48 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-07T14:04:48 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T14:05:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-07T14:16:33 < Laurenceb__> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1467839163175.jpg 2016-07-07T14:17:32 < Laurenceb__> just another trolling zone 2016-07-07T14:18:01 < Laurenceb__> news 2016-07-07T14:20:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-07T14:21:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T14:23:25 < Laurenceb__> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1467843602419.gif 2016-07-07T14:23:29 < dongs> tldr 2016-07-07T14:28:18 < Laurenceb__> http://terminallance.com/wp-content/uploads/comics/2016-07-01-Strip_Transition_web.jpg 2016-07-07T14:30:18 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/CrIgdzX.jpg success 2016-07-07T14:31:03 < jadew> looks like corrupted memory, the text is all scrambled up 2016-07-07T14:31:51 < dongs> lolz 2016-07-07T14:32:50 < Laurenceb__> holy resolution batman 2016-07-07T14:37:55 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-07-07T14:38:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T14:51:09 < Laurenceb__> crt spotted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTbsbpB65I&feature=youtu.be 2016-07-07T14:52:44 < dongs> fuckme i hate wifi so fucking much 2016-07-07T14:52:50 < dongs> copy shit from phone to PC = 900k/sec 2016-07-07T14:52:53 < dongs> what the fuck in 2016 2016-07-07T14:53:08 < dongs> if i plug in usb to copy shit it'll be even slower cuz i have to navigate through 500 folders via MTP 2016-07-07T14:53:36 < Laurenceb__> le current year 2016-07-07T14:53:40 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/zrdkUZ.gif 2016-07-07T14:57:42 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThO5v5HfyUo 2016-07-07T14:58:22 < aandrew> Laurenceb__: HAHAHAHAHAH 2016-07-07T15:02:22 < dongs> ya 2016-07-07T15:03:22 < dongs> yeah lawl 2016-07-07T15:03:24 < dongs> wtf is that guy 2016-07-07T15:03:27 < dongs> some SJW faggot 2016-07-07T15:03:35 < dongs> ikr 2016-07-07T15:07:06 < Laurenceb__> wut I see no comments 2016-07-07T15:15:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-07T15:16:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-07T15:25:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-23.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-07T15:47:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-23.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T15:48:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/threed-modelling/Manufacture-Product-for-10950255/ 2016-07-07T15:55:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T16:02:45 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.211.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T16:09:27 < qyx> hm, capsensing with a single mcu pin 2016-07-07T16:09:39 < qyx> without an external capacitor 2016-07-07T16:10:01 < qyx> how could I have missed this 2016-07-07T16:50:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-07T16:55:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T17:22:55 < Laurenceb> qyx: you can do that on any stm32 2016-07-07T17:23:02 < Laurenceb> by abusing the adc 2016-07-07T17:30:01 < Laurenceb> grr still trying to design stepper motor driver with F3 timers 2016-07-07T17:30:08 < Laurenceb> probably time to give up lol 2016-07-07T17:32:32 < Laurenceb> need moar break inputs for this to work 2016-07-07T17:34:19 < qyx> Laurenceb: I did that with a pin in OD mode 2016-07-07T17:34:26 < qyx> enable pullup, periodically reset to 0 2016-07-07T17:34:40 < qyx> and measure the time it takes to charge the cap through the pullup 2016-07-07T17:34:49 < Laurenceb> interesting 2016-07-07T17:35:05 < Laurenceb> I suspect that would be vulnerable to noise 2016-07-07T17:35:25 < Laurenceb> I used ADC and looked at voltage over multiple conversions 2016-07-07T17:36:39 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T17:36:49 < qyx> aha, the adc sample and hold cap will cut a bit of charge from the pin each time? 2016-07-07T17:37:14 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-07-07T17:37:24 < Laurenceb> so you can solve for pin capacitance 2016-07-07T17:37:32 < Laurenceb> it also works for photodiode interfacing 2016-07-07T17:37:54 < qyx> ok 2016-07-07T17:38:02 < qyx> but I am still failing at input capture 2016-07-07T17:38:17 < qyx> the isr is called only once 2016-07-07T17:52:25 < __rob2> Laurenceb: I'm sure i've seen complete timer examples and application notes about exactly stepper motor diriving from stm32 2016-07-07T17:52:44 < Laurenceb> hmm i'll check 2016-07-07T17:53:00 < Laurenceb> I was hoping to be able to do current regulation 2016-07-07T17:53:11 < Laurenceb> but can't work out the break modes to do it :S 2016-07-07T17:53:45 < ReadError> whats the bestcase latency doing 'periph-to-periph' DMA 2016-07-07T17:53:53 < ReadError> even tho thats not really possible 2016-07-07T17:56:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T17:57:21 < __rob2> I found their L6470 chip pretty decent for driving steppers with minimal effort 2016-07-07T17:57:27 < __rob2> pricey tho 2016-07-07T17:59:08 < Laurenceb> well I was planning a stepper -> servo conversion 2016-07-07T17:59:26 < Laurenceb> so I need 4 half bridges with current control 2016-07-07T18:00:02 < __rob2> conversion? of what a cnc machine ? 2016-07-07T18:00:32 < Laurenceb> a clone of https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m 2016-07-07T18:00:50 < qyx> are you going to do a poor-man 2 phase bldc from a stepper? 2016-07-07T18:01:00 < Laurenceb> that was the idea 2016-07-07T18:04:51 < __rob2> isn't that basically what microstepping is doing? 2016-07-07T18:04:55 < Laurenceb> no 2016-07-07T18:04:59 < __rob2> just without feedback 2016-07-07T18:05:02 < Laurenceb> microstepping is a con 2016-07-07T18:05:10 < Laurenceb> it only helps minimize vibration 2016-07-07T18:05:33 < Laurenceb> you can torque and position ripple, and the position/torque response is poor 2016-07-07T18:05:37 < ReadError> Laurenceb you should use some acc/gyro shits 2016-07-07T18:05:42 < ReadError> and do harmonic avoidance 2016-07-07T18:05:47 < Laurenceb> wut? 2016-07-07T18:05:47 < ReadError> resonance ? 2016-07-07T18:05:47 < ReadError> ya 2016-07-07T18:05:48 < ReadError> that 2016-07-07T18:06:04 < Laurenceb> this would be for CNC type stuff 2016-07-07T18:06:13 < Laurenceb> so it needs an encoder not an acc 2016-07-07T18:06:19 < ReadError> right 2016-07-07T18:06:22 < ReadError> both 2016-07-07T18:06:26 < qyx> does it? 2016-07-07T18:06:31 < ReadError> machines will have a natural resonance 2016-07-07T18:06:36 < ReadError> speeds to avoid 2016-07-07T18:06:38 < qyx> aren't you able to count the steps in sw? 2016-07-07T18:07:04 < Laurenceb> qyx: you can count the microsteps but it doesnt tell you where the rotor is 2016-07-07T18:07:12 < Laurenceb> or what the torque is 2016-07-07T18:10:55 < jadew> http://imgur.com/gallery/QelEIx3 2016-07-07T18:13:16 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-07T18:13:31 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/WxwP4Zt 2016-07-07T18:14:41 < __rob2> cant you use the same setup they have? the same chip ? 2016-07-07T18:15:13 < Laurenceb> I was wondering if their driver could be replaced by discrete fets for current boost 2016-07-07T18:21:18 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/qeDnICz.jpg 2016-07-07T18:25:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T18:30:40 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T18:37:13 < englishman> did your replacement thermaldonics shit arrive yet 2016-07-07T18:39:22 < englishman> how do you plug coax in backwards 2016-07-07T18:39:44 < englishman> or the soldering tips 2016-07-07T18:40:01 < qyx> wtf, TIM2 isn't 32bit on L1? 2016-07-07T18:40:05 < englishman> yes this is not warrantyd 2016-07-07T18:40:17 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.81.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T18:40:34 < qyx> 16-bit (TIM3 and TIM4) or 32-bit (TIM5)up, down, up/down auto-reload counter. 2016-07-07T18:49:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-07T18:57:33 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.81.109] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-07T19:02:05 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/DXHjRT.png 2016-07-07T19:02:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-23.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-07T19:03:22 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-07T19:17:03 < Laurenceb> https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/Jul/6/LiveLeak-dot-com-45c_1467838845-NoahsArk_1467838850.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd1914444d2dfc05d&ec_rate=230 2016-07-07T19:20:21 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T19:20:21 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-07T19:22:01 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T19:22:25 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T19:34:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T19:42:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T19:53:19 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T19:55:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T19:55:54 < Steffanx> if you like to video, you better link correctly mr Laurenceb 2016-07-07T19:55:55 < Steffanx> Anti-hotlink protection: The hash code for the file you tried to view has expired. 2016-07-07T19:56:12 < Steffanx> How are we supposed the see the unfunny crap otherwise? 2016-07-07T20:02:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T20:10:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T20:11:56 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T20:12:05 < Rob235> hey 2016-07-07T20:14:06 < Rob235> if I have a device with a tiny oled screen (0.9") would I be able to connect the screen connector to an stm32 to analyze the image being transferred and do some like OCR shit to figure out what numbers are being displayed? 2016-07-07T20:15:17 < knielsen> Rob235: What protocol is being sent (VGA, composite, HDMI, ...) ? 2016-07-07T20:16:16 < knielsen> Some protocols are hard to decode on-the-fly with an MCU 2016-07-07T20:16:38 < englishman> if you just want to sniff, get $8 saleaeclone? 2016-07-07T20:16:45 < Rob235> good question.. Ive never messed with an lcd/oled screen before so I'm not sure what's involved 2016-07-07T20:17:31 < englishman> is it one of these http://www.wide.hk/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_46&product_id=65 2016-07-07T20:17:50 < Rob235> nah I want to add functionality to an existing device (it's a dna200 chip for vaping mods) I'd like to read the screen in realtime and instead of displaying stuff on the tiny oled that it works with, add like a touch screen or something 2016-07-07T20:18:30 < Rob235> http://www.evolvapor.com/dna200.php 2016-07-07T20:18:38 < Rob235> see the replacement screen second from top 2016-07-07T20:22:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-07T20:22:43 < knielsen> The datasheet says "I2C". If so, I suppose you should be able to read it from an STM32 2016-07-07T20:24:10 < knielsen> there's a datasheet for the controller here, it seems: https://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/SSD1306.pdf 2016-07-07T20:24:14 < Rob235> oh shit, I didn't see that, thats awesome, i2c sounds slow though isn't it? 2016-07-07T20:24:41 < knielsen> Well, the slower it is, the better for you who needs to process it in real-time ... 2016-07-07T20:25:53 < Rob235> so is this probably the only way I can read info from the dna200? It's the only thing I could come up with 2016-07-07T20:27:26 < Rob235> oh it works with spi and parallel too? 2016-07-07T20:29:02 < knielsen> yeah. The datasheet (the one-page drawing) for the dna200 replacement screen has a note "4. Interface: I2C", but that might or might not be significant, you'd probably need to dig out that logic-analyser and see what's actually going on 2016-07-07T20:30:06 < Rob235> yea, this could be a fun project 2016-07-07T20:30:55 < knielsen> yep, sounds fun, and seems doable with the adafruit datasheet for the controller (if it's reasonably complete), might be some work though 2016-07-07T20:32:12 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777c59.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T20:32:33 < Rob235> I'll need to get a 3d printer to make a case :) although plastic might not be the best choice for heat, maybe add a few metal plates for heatsinks or something 2016-07-07T20:39:37 < Rob235> the dna200 has some kinda python scripting language but I'm not sure it can do what I want. so hard to find info 2016-07-07T20:47:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T20:51:57 < Rob235> hmm this python thing might actually work 2016-07-07T20:52:49 < Rob235> would be a million times better than interpreting a screen 2016-07-07T20:53:13 < knielsen> sounds a lot easier, yes 2016-07-07T20:53:40 < Rob235> maybe I should just buy the chip so I can play with it... 2016-07-07T20:53:47 < Rob235> guessing is frustrating :) 2016-07-07T20:53:51 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T20:55:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T21:14:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T21:14:28 -!- MicroJoe [~MicroJoe@229-240-47-212.rev.cloud.scaleway.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-07T21:18:51 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T21:19:30 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T21:23:52 < Steffanx> Stop vaping and there is no need for frustration Rob235 :P 2016-07-07T21:23:58 < Rob235> psh 2016-07-07T21:39:49 < Laurenceb> hmm think I worked out my timer issue 2016-07-07T21:40:03 < Laurenceb> need to try this in spiace next - it need bootstrapped FETs 2016-07-07T21:40:06 < Laurenceb> *spice 2016-07-07T21:43:07 < Laurenceb> looks like four timers can run a stepper - one for encoder input, one as master for speed calculation then one advanced control timer for each phase 2016-07-07T22:04:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T22:10:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-07T22:16:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T22:21:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T22:28:49 < Steffanx> You can also get shapeways to do the printing for you Rob235. They have more than just plastic/abs/whatever 2016-07-07T22:29:00 < Steffanx> like gold and silver :D 2016-07-07T22:29:13 < Laurenceb> is there a way to sniff rfcomm traffic on linux? 2016-07-07T22:29:21 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T22:29:21 < Steffanx> titanium is nice too 2016-07-07T22:31:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-07T22:31:20 < Steffanx> Can't wireshark do that? 2016-07-07T22:31:30 < Laurenceb> can't see rfcomm in wireshark 2016-07-07T22:41:23 < Steffanx> Yet it should be able to do it according to: https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/Bluetooth 2016-07-07T22:41:31 < Steffanx> and then the supported profiles/protocols https://wiki.wireshark.org/Bluetooth 2016-07-07T22:41:39 < Steffanx> btrfcomm is part of that 2016-07-07T22:48:54 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T23:00:59 < Steffanx> https://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/2000989657.jpeg best product photo ever.. 2016-07-07T23:01:09 < Steffanx> that bend pin -_- 2016-07-07T23:04:19 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKemNHODJUVTcwUDg/view?usp=sharing made cooled blast helmet 2016-07-07T23:04:43 < kakimir> out of shitty blast helmet 2016-07-07T23:05:47 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:06:35 < Steffanx> looks more like a beekeeper suite 2016-07-07T23:07:07 < BrainDamage> can you turn it into a portable gas chamber? 2016-07-07T23:09:09 < kakimir> one person model 2016-07-07T23:09:27 < kakimir> just pick the gas bottle by use 2016-07-07T23:10:14 < kakimir> Steffanx: sand blasting anti-fuckery helmet 2016-07-07T23:11:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-07T23:15:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-07T23:15:04 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-07T23:20:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-8bebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:20:30 < kakimir> what is the function of glycerine inside pressure gauges? 2016-07-07T23:21:01 < kakimir> to keep moist-ure away? 2016-07-07T23:23:40 < Sync> to provide dampening 2016-07-07T23:24:15 < kakimir> oh 2016-07-07T23:27:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:29:31 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-07T23:41:08 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:41:55 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-07T23:46:20 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/360644211571 this is a good buy? 2016-07-07T23:47:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:48:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:50:16 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-07T23:51:26 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-07T23:54:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-07T23:55:22 < kakimir> always check the voltage --- Day changed Fri Jul 08 2016 2016-07-08T00:06:37 < Rob235_> hmm whats going on with my connection 2016-07-08T00:07:10 < Rob235_> gonna quit for now 2016-07-08T00:07:14 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-08T00:11:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T00:18:11 < jadew> kakimir, too bad I just bought the last one 2016-07-08T00:20:57 < kakimir> did you check the voltage? 2016-07-08T00:21:31 < jadew> I was kidding anyway 2016-07-08T00:32:32 < kakimir> when objects being laminated are baked in autoclaves is there need for pressure or is it just because autoclaves are very common to have 2016-07-08T00:32:50 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-08T00:33:47 < kakimir> is pressure required in addition to heat? 2016-07-08T00:44:40 < kakimir> vacuum bumb ordered 2016-07-08T00:45:46 < Sync> kakimir: you only use vacuum 2016-07-08T00:48:41 < kakimir> I don't get your point 2016-07-08T00:48:55 < kakimir> oh.. answer to question 2016-07-08T00:49:07 < kakimir> so I can bake in my oven too? 2016-07-08T00:49:10 < kakimir> nice 2016-07-08T00:49:31 < kakimir> replace with silicone hoses and stuff and go 2016-07-08T00:51:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-8bebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T00:51:46 < kakimir> so only reason they use autoclaves is that.. those are commercially available and multiuse? 2016-07-08T01:12:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T01:13:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-08T01:14:35 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T01:22:28 < kakimir> there is such jubbs 2016-07-08T01:22:36 < kakimir> that is scapel cleaner 2016-07-08T01:22:51 < kakimir> stm32 price go up 10X 2016-07-08T01:24:38 < kakimir> how did we get from autoclave to bonesaw? 2016-07-08T01:25:04 < kakimir> how? 2016-07-08T01:25:49 < kakimir> how you know? 2016-07-08T01:26:31 < kakimir> oh 2016-07-08T01:26:34 < kakimir> that smell 2016-07-08T01:26:42 < kakimir> what changed? 2016-07-08T01:28:18 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-08T01:28:27 < kakimir> how you lived in hospital as a kid? 2016-07-08T01:30:17 < kakimir> no.. hospitals smell 2016-07-08T01:31:07 < kakimir> I wonder why they just dont ventilate enought but let smells to go around in corridors 2016-07-08T01:32:43 < kakimir> nowdays they propably UV their air and stuff 2016-07-08T01:45:42 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777c59.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-07-08T01:59:22 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T02:00:08 < anton02> is there any benefit to using RTC over a tim if all I'm wanting to do is count seconds 2016-07-08T02:08:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-08T02:13:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T02:37:59 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T02:41:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-08T02:41:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T02:41:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-08T02:41:36 < Rob235> can't believe I spent $55 on this board but oh well 2016-07-08T02:48:14 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-08T02:49:50 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T03:00:35 < Rob235> ? 2016-07-08T03:11:44 < anton02> Rob235: what was $55? 2016-07-08T03:12:10 < Rob235> dna200 vaping board 2016-07-08T03:12:25 < Rob235> hi crt 2016-07-08T03:38:21 < Rob235> can't say that I have 2016-07-08T03:43:16 < Rob235> what is it 2016-07-08T03:43:36 < Rob235> ok then 2016-07-08T03:43:40 < Rob235> i'll get right on that 2016-07-08T03:47:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T03:51:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T03:51:49 < kakimir> does money donations have VAT in them? 2016-07-08T03:52:10 < kakimir> more patrion questions 2016-07-08T04:02:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T04:03:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-08T04:04:27 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T04:10:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T04:12:42 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T04:17:19 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-08T04:21:48 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Rasberry-Model-redesign/ dumb 2016-07-08T04:31:27 < dongs> http://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/eval-adicup360.html#eb-overview 2016-07-08T04:31:31 < dongs> what the shit is this 2016-07-08T04:31:34 < dongs> retweeting from stonertronics 2016-07-08T04:36:37 < aandrew> ohsix: wtf haha 2016-07-08T04:38:02 < Rob235> what a waste 2016-07-08T04:44:48 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-08T04:45:32 < dongs> the fuck are those? 2016-07-08T04:45:33 < dongs> button cells? 2016-07-08T04:45:40 < dongs> or just literally button tops 2016-07-08T04:45:47 < dongs> oh lol 2016-07-08T04:46:07 < dongs> individually bagged, typical japanese activity 2016-07-08T04:47:36 < dongs> ya 2016-07-08T04:48:59 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T04:54:22 < dongs> how can I make a decision at runtime if debugger is connected to SWD? 2016-07-08T04:54:40 < dongs> like if I wanted to AF those pins to something else 2016-07-08T04:54:44 < dongs> but not when debugger is connected 2016-07-08T05:05:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-08T05:33:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T05:33:22 < Rob235> ohsix, I just saw that youtube clip on tosh.0 2016-07-08T05:41:07 < dongs> only faggots watch tosh.0 2016-07-08T05:41:14 < dongs> (happens to be ohsix favorite american TVtoo) 2016-07-08T05:45:16 < dongs> exactly, its unfunny american comedy 2016-07-08T05:48:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T05:49:22 < dongs> lol 2016-07-08T05:49:24 < dongs> you installed some aids app 2016-07-08T05:49:31 < dongs> that has permission to put ads oveer other apps 2016-07-08T05:49:34 < dongs> that you didnt read and accepted 2016-07-08T06:11:56 < dongs> more like the joy of using LUNIX ON DESKTOP 2016-07-08T06:25:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T06:26:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-08T06:31:05 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T06:31:35 < dongs> heh 2016-07-08T06:31:42 < dongs> some guy from jap analog.com bought my stuff 2016-07-08T06:32:40 < dongs> FAE thre for 11 years 2016-07-08T06:36:42 < emeb_mac> what - some of your video stuff? 2016-07-08T06:55:09 < dongs> ya 2016-07-08T06:55:24 < dongs> probly just a personal buy w/work email anywayz 2016-07-08T06:55:38 < dongs> i was to lazy to see where jap analog HQ is, somewhere around tokyo im sure 2016-07-08T06:57:29 < dongs> BREAKING: DPD Chief David Brown says 10 officers were shot by 2 snipers in downtown Dallas. 3 are dead, 3 are critical, and 2 are in surgery 2016-07-08T06:57:32 < dongs> (4 dead now) 2016-07-08T06:59:04 < carabia> So, 250 gets bombed downtown baghdad, who gives a fuck. A couple of black guys shot in the states and every fucking one freaks out 2016-07-08T06:59:13 < carabia> They're just ragtops, after all. 2016-07-08T06:59:35 < carabia> The hypocrisy and make-believe global world. 2016-07-08T07:00:13 < carabia> Also, the latest black dude shot in the car, the video just doesn't add up. I'm not buying it. 2016-07-08T07:00:53 < carabia> This works just as fine 2016-07-08T07:09:21 < englishman> the doges 2016-07-08T07:18:50 < carabia> ohsix, no... read again 2016-07-08T07:19:16 < dongs> carabia: ohsix doesn't read. best to just /ignore 2016-07-08T07:19:28 < carabia> maybe there's an issue with your ability to comprehend what you read? 2016-07-08T07:24:14 < carabia> exactly, but that's not how the story is sold, but people never realize this 2016-07-08T07:24:48 < carabia> or... more like never admit it, actually 2016-07-08T07:25:57 < carabia> that there are catastrophies, and then there are catastrophies. Like that book, what was it again? Animal farm? All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others 2016-07-08T07:26:14 < dongs> carabia: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-07-08T07:26:43 < carabia> dongs, Hi, it looks like you're a smartass. May I suggest you to go screw yourself? Thank you! 2016-07-08T07:27:36 < carabia> Add in a litlte smiley to boot, too: :) 2016-07-08T07:27:41 < dongs> carabia: there are other channels to discuss retarded shit in 2016-07-08T07:27:44 < dongs> or privmsgs 2016-07-08T07:27:50 < dongs> ohsix is ignored by almost everyone in here for a reason 2016-07-08T07:27:54 < dongs> he never talks on topic 2016-07-08T07:28:12 < dongs> don't provoke him into flooding thechannel with garbage 2016-07-08T07:28:15 < dongs> for the next x hours 2016-07-08T07:29:35 < carabia> dongs, I'm sorry for creating a disturbance in the myriad of ideas and related topics being thrown around here as we speak. 2016-07-08T07:29:48 < dongs> carabia: dont try to be a smartass 2016-07-08T07:30:09 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-08T07:30:15 < dongs> maybe you have a STM32 project to talk about? 2016-07-08T07:32:17 < dongs> R2COM: eh, its not gonna kill anything but for what? 2016-07-08T07:32:29 < dongs> last i checked it was pretty self-contained, just ancient 2016-07-08T07:32:45 < dongs> it shouldnt stick anything outside of c:\mingw or wahtever except I think one dll that goes into windows 2016-07-08T07:34:38 < carabia> dongs, might I remind you who was the one actually mentioning said off-topic? 2016-07-08T07:35:14 < dongs> carabia: you were prodding a well-known channel troll 2016-07-08T07:35:18 < dongs> so i gently reminded you not to 2016-07-08T07:35:43 < dongs> Curfew just in time for Pokemon Go. Thanks Obama 2016-07-08T07:35:57 < carabia> No dongs I was actually talking about you. 2016-07-08T07:36:38 < dongs> you dont actually talk about dongs. 2016-07-08T07:38:15 < carabia> Everyone hates smartasses, and when it comes to being off-topic, this is a case of "do as I say, not as I do". Nice touch. 2016-07-08T07:40:57 < Rob235> dongs thinks he is king 2016-07-08T07:41:14 < dongs> incorrect, I just think you're a dumb stoner 2016-07-08T07:41:22 < dongs> but we're not going to get into that argument now are we 2016-07-08T07:41:35 < Rob235> because I say one thing... grow up dude 2016-07-08T07:42:01 < dongs> time to dicknplace and get paid, irc chats arent as profitable lately 2016-07-08T07:42:03 < dongs> bbl 2016-07-08T07:42:43 < Rob235> that has nothing to do with drugs 2016-07-08T07:43:14 < Rob235> vaping is to get off cigs 2016-07-08T07:44:46 < Rob235> I am relaxed I'm just responding to what people are saying 2016-07-08T07:44:56 < Rob235> I'm not mad or anything if thats what you think 2016-07-08T07:45:30 < Rob235> haha what is wrong with you guys, is it because I ripped on dongs? 2016-07-08T07:46:14 < carabia> on an unrelated note - I'm starting to understand what dongs is talking about ignoring some of the people around here. Thanks dongs, that was at least helpful. 2016-07-08T07:46:25 < Rob235> actually its you guys that bring it up more than I do but whatever 2016-07-08T07:46:52 < Rob235> I dont even know how this shit started, fucking babies in here 2016-07-08T07:48:16 < carabia> Okay so, got any amazing STM32(tm)-projects rolling? 2016-07-08T07:50:16 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T07:53:51 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-08T07:53:57 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-08T08:11:48 < dongs> cool 2016-07-08T08:12:45 < dongs> damn thats a nice vid 2016-07-08T08:14:19 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Manufacture-Prayer-Clock-Panel-for/ 2016-07-08T08:14:42 < dongs> could be a job for stm32 2016-07-08T08:16:05 < dongs> especially if you add a hidden function to blow the whole thing up 2016-07-08T08:16:09 < dongs> when they start praying 2016-07-08T08:16:43 < carabia> dongs, careful now 2016-07-08T08:22:28 < carabia> but shits and giggles aside, I would totally use something ammonium nitrate based, because it's relatively easily obtained 2016-07-08T08:22:52 < carabia> :) 2016-07-08T08:26:24 < dongs> emeb_mac: im back on the spdif project after a couple years break, i think 2016-07-08T08:26:42 < carabia> dongs, do tell 2016-07-08T08:26:57 < dongs> with WM8804 2016-07-08T08:27:04 < emeb_mac> dongs: ah - that thing 2016-07-08T08:27:06 < dongs> yes 2016-07-08T08:27:10 < emeb_mac> been a while 2016-07-08T08:27:30 < dongs> im not sure if old pcb ever worked since i never got the asshoels to give me proper firmware support, but looks like finalyl that happened so it's going to be made again 2016-07-08T08:28:19 < carabia> dongs, so what's it gonna be? 2016-07-08T08:28:47 < dongs> spdif to i2s 2016-07-08T08:28:55 < dongs> as part of a larger board. 2016-07-08T08:29:07 < dongs> with stm32 on it 2016-07-08T08:29:14 < carabia> and the larger board is? 2016-07-08T08:30:15 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-07-08T08:36:45 < dongs> emeb_mac: looking at the stuff again, how is it called "digital in" if their own block diagram shows ac-coupled stuff? 2016-07-08T08:37:03 < dongs> for WM8804 RX0 2016-07-08T08:37:04 < emeb_mac> dongs: heh 2016-07-08T08:37:20 < emeb_mac> well, it's a digital signal 2016-07-08T08:37:41 < dongs> why are they offsetting it then 2016-07-08T08:37:44 < dongs> why not just read it as digital 2016-07-08T08:38:53 < dongs> actually i got the evalboard here this time,I should acutally scope the spdif out and see what it looks like 2016-07-08T08:39:41 < emeb_mac> dongs: it's for long runs - maybe they're trying to prevent ground loops or offsets 2016-07-08T08:44:31 < dongs> hm? there's spdif input on F7disco? 2016-07-08T08:44:35 < emeb_mac> dongs: yes 2016-07-08T08:44:41 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-08T08:44:45 < emeb_mac> and on the F446 too IIRC 2016-07-08T08:44:45 < dongs> is that some on-chip block? 2016-07-08T08:44:50 < dongs> or they have a codec or somethi nthere 2016-07-08T08:44:59 < emeb_mac> no codec - just digital stuff 2016-07-08T08:45:43 < dongs> hah neat 2016-07-08T08:46:07 < dongs> http://www.tjaekel.com/DiscoveryF7Audio/index.html 2016-07-08T08:46:09 < dongs> hah~ 2016-07-08T08:46:25 < emeb_mac> yeah - f446 has it too 2016-07-08T08:48:34 < emeb_mac> might be able to do it w/o special HW, but I suspect it would take a lot of cycles 2016-07-08T08:49:06 < emeb_mac> there's clock extraction / tracking & manchester decoding 2016-07-08T08:49:16 < dongs> the jitter would be unacceptable 2016-07-08T08:49:27 < dongs> unless I clock stm32 from 10mhz rubudium reference 2016-07-08T08:49:30 < emeb_mac> and audiophools hates the jitters 2016-07-08T08:49:49 < dongs> i have a couple f7discos i wonder if I should make SOUNDCARD out of them 2016-07-08T08:50:00 < dongs> i dont evne have anything that would take that fuckin spdif out 2016-07-08T08:51:07 < emeb_mac> dongs: yeah - why no spdif out? 2016-07-08T08:51:09 < emeb_mac> dumb 2016-07-08T08:58:11 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:00:55 < anton02> clive palmer is his name but i dont know much about politics 2016-07-08T09:03:01 < dongs> clive1? 2016-07-08T09:04:19 -!- fenugrec [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-08T09:05:33 < upgrdman> what stocks tend to have high dividends, other than energy and telecom? 2016-07-08T09:05:50 < dongs> i have a better question 2016-07-08T09:05:58 < dongs> what hte fuck does this discussion have to do with STM32 2016-07-08T09:06:08 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-08T09:07:00 < dongs> oh, never mind i thought you were continuing ohsix ramble with anton02 2016-07-08T09:07:41 < ReadError> smoke some greencrack and chill 2016-07-08T09:11:25 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-08T09:11:37 < upgrdman> sunny in shithai right now 2016-07-08T09:12:11 < upgrdman> expecting rain over weekend from it but nothing big 2016-07-08T09:12:24 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-07-08T09:13:01 < upgrdman> AGNC looks nice. 12% but prolly higj risk... mREIT 2016-07-08T09:13:43 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-08T09:15:01 < dongs> financial advice from ohsix ITT 2016-07-08T09:15:19 < dongs> this is the guy with income of $0 for the last 16 years 2016-07-08T09:15:26 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-08T09:15:31 < dongs> (which also happens ot be his age) 2016-07-08T09:16:24 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:16:27 < upgrdman> wjat are you reading 2016-07-08T09:16:33 < dongs> invensense stock has been going down teh shitter 2016-07-08T09:16:40 < dongs> really thought it would be something useful 2016-07-08T09:16:44 < dongs> GOOD THING I DIDNT BUY LOL 2016-07-08T09:17:20 < upgrdman> ya and stm is like all time low,price when everyone else is gaining 2016-07-08T09:17:46 < upgrdman> ya, shitzerland 2016-07-08T09:19:27 < ReadError> shitzerland isnt eu tho 2016-07-08T09:19:33 < ReadError> they are 'special' 2016-07-08T09:19:39 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-08T09:20:25 < upgrdman> ohsix, they=who 2016-07-08T09:21:28 < upgrdman> but dont they take a nice cut 2016-07-08T09:23:17 < upgrdman> reading some cn candy packaging, "really delicious, taste the incense" ... for a sec i thought it said taste the incest 2016-07-08T09:34:36 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:36:27 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:37:12 < boB_K7IQ> Love the pix, ohsix 2016-07-08T09:41:18 < dongs> love the autism, dongs 2016-07-08T09:41:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:42:45 < boB_K7IQ> Yes, I have always had a good laugh at Chenglish translations of manuals especially 2016-07-08T09:43:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:46:02 < upgrdman> lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmfqLLRWcAEn2Rt.jpg:large 2016-07-08T09:52:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T09:52:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-08T09:58:10 < dongs> whats the funny? 2016-07-08T09:58:26 < dongs> that they're not allowing retarded tourists drown themselves? 2016-07-08T10:00:27 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T10:00:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-08T10:03:20 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-08T10:04:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T10:09:21 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T10:09:36 -!- idmond [2944a8bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.68.168.189] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T10:11:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-08T10:17:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-08T10:18:25 < dongs> ERROR: ER_DB_CONN_FAIL 2016-07-08T10:18:28 < dongs> freecancer died 2016-07-08T10:25:24 < dongs> http://www.anandtech.com/show/10475/samsung-rolls-out-its-first-ufs-cards-ssd-performance-in-card-formfactor 2016-07-08T10:25:27 < dongs> nice 2016-07-08T10:26:01 < dongs> hmm wat 2016-07-08T10:26:04 < dongs> nice card socket 2016-07-08T10:27:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.194] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T10:29:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T10:35:50 < ReadError> dongs whats the most optimal way to 'periph-to-periph' DMA 2016-07-08T10:36:24 < dongs> wasn't aware there was a non-optimal way? 2016-07-08T10:36:36 < ReadError> the way with the least latency 2016-07-08T10:36:47 < ReadError> would it always be 1 byte behind? 2016-07-08T10:37:00 < dongs> other than priority and burst modes i guess there's no way to make it any better 2016-07-08T10:37:14 < dongs> i think burst modes work on 32bits at once or somethin 2016-07-08T10:37:16 < ReadError> ohsix stm32 doesnt support real periph to periph DMA 2016-07-08T10:38:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-164.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T10:39:37 < upgrdman> im still waiting for 512GB microsd cards 2016-07-08T10:40:13 < upgrdman> but that samsung stuff... does anyon ehave a desire for them? 2016-07-08T10:40:35 < upgrdman> ohsix, cuz phones and surfaces only have one usd slot if any at all? 2016-07-08T10:41:32 < dongs> no worries 2016-07-08T10:41:36 < dongs> ohsix can't afford either 2016-07-08T10:41:48 < dongs> so all this discussion is strictly theoretical 2016-07-08T10:41:52 < dongs> aka assburgering 2016-07-08T10:42:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T10:43:57 < ReadError> do they make any ICs that interface the same as SD? 2016-07-08T10:44:18 < dongs> anything wiht 'sdio'? 2016-07-08T10:44:33 < dongs> like wifi/bt trash 2016-07-08T10:44:39 < ReadError> no like flash 2016-07-08T10:44:46 < dongs> yes 2016-07-08T10:44:46 < dongs> emmc 2016-07-08T10:45:00 < ReadError> yea but no actual card/enclosure 2016-07-08T10:45:00 < dongs> it can run in 1 bit mode just like Sd 2016-07-08T10:45:07 < dongs> < ReadError> do they make any ICs that interface the same as SD? 2016-07-08T10:45:13 < ReadError> just an 8pin chip 2016-07-08T10:45:16 < dongs> yes, they do its called eMMC. 2016-07-08T10:45:20 < dongs> no, emmc has a standard pinout 2016-07-08T10:45:27 < dongs> its like fine pitch bga 2016-07-08T10:45:35 < dongs> with like 200 balls but only ~20 used 2016-07-08T10:45:40 < dongs> the rest is just for mounting 2016-07-08T10:45:47 < ReadError> ahh dumb 2016-07-08T10:46:16 < ReadError> an 8-10pin 'SDcard' IC would be kewl 2016-07-08T10:46:58 < upgrdman> if only 20 used, why sp many? while not bigger balls?make the pkg to tall? 2016-07-08T10:47:11 < dongs> upgrdman: structural yea 2016-07-08T10:47:22 < dongs> https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/07/emmcpro.jpg 2016-07-08T10:47:34 < dongs> like, some of them also haev this halfmoon row on edges too 2016-07-08T10:47:42 < dongs> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1OMseKpXXXXb_XXXXq6xXFXXXf/eMMC-11x10-0-5m-Socket-reading-and-write-the-data-of-eMMC-high-performance.jpg 2016-07-08T10:47:45 < dongs> like this 2016-07-08T10:47:56 < ReadError> they make 2GB SD cards for next to nothing 2016-07-08T10:48:04 < ReadError> 2GB flash IC is probably not super cheap 2016-07-08T10:48:19 < dongs> ReadError: http://hackaday.com/2015/08/18/reflow-solder-your-micro-sd-to-ensure-it-doesnt-go-anywhere/ done 2016-07-08T10:48:27 < ReadError> yea seen 2016-07-08T10:49:06 < upgrdman> re those balls, wtf. why not a nice grid on the perimerer 2016-07-08T10:49:34 < dongs> upgrdman: ya who knows. there's probly a reason, anyway, that footprint is standard (like jedec or whatever the fuck), so everyone has to use it 2016-07-08T10:50:16 < upgrdman> lol k 2016-07-08T10:52:56 < upgrdman> dongs, do the japs on scooters n bikes wear helmets? seems like in cn the only fuckers that wear helmets are the food delivery fucks 2016-07-08T10:53:19 < dongs> pretty sure its required 2016-07-08T10:58:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.190] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T11:00:49 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-08T11:02:16 < ReadError> yea but that package 2016-07-08T11:04:08 < ReadError> smart muxer 2016-07-08T11:04:50 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T11:24:00 < ReadError> still need MCU 2016-07-08T11:24:07 < dongs> autism? 2016-07-08T11:24:12 < ReadError> sure 2016-07-08T11:30:55 < ReadError> well i need to keep the BOM down and mux limits things 2016-07-08T11:31:13 < ReadError> cmos directional 2016-07-08T11:42:37 < dongs> "keep the bom down" 2016-07-08T11:42:43 < dongs> "i only do hobby thigns for myself" 2016-07-08T11:43:09 < ReadError> i like small things 2016-07-08T11:45:56 < dongs> huh 2016-07-08T11:46:03 < dongs> digieky stopped carrying FCI usb-B stuff 2016-07-08T11:46:10 < dongs> pretty sure thats what I bought last time 2016-07-08T11:46:18 < dongs> more likely tho FCI stopped making them too 2016-07-08T11:47:32 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FCI-Amphenol/10103594-0001LF/ ? 2016-07-08T11:47:42 < dongs> no, USB-B 2016-07-08T11:47:47 < dongs> thats micro B. 2016-07-08T11:49:48 < dongs> i only see some retarded offshore/assman satuff 2016-07-08T11:50:56 < dongs> http://uk.farnell.com/fci/61729-0010blf/usb-2-0-type-b-receptacle-th/dp/1097897 2016-07-08T11:51:11 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=61729-0010BLF 2016-07-08T11:52:46 < dongs> hm strange that it didnt show up under digikey search in usb/etc connectors category 2016-07-08T11:53:13 < dongs> hm does if i select fci first. 2016-07-08T11:57:41 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T12:00:14 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5tmcOwzxk 2016-07-08T12:00:24 < ReadError> he a show from vice media not about weed 2016-07-08T12:00:26 < ReadError> heh 2016-07-08T12:10:22 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-08T12:30:20 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T12:32:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-08T12:32:04 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-08T12:32:24 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T12:35:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T12:37:05 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/EesLLXX.png betcha didnt know this about USB-A/B 2016-07-08T12:48:37 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-08T12:48:46 < dongs> pumpin 2016-07-08T12:52:42 -!- rewolff1 [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T13:02:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-164.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-08T13:11:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T13:14:01 < upgrdman> anyone know of any youtube channels that do like self improvement videos for comp sci / comp eng people? like introducing intermediate/advanced topics. theres lots of noob channels, but seemingly nothing past that 2016-07-08T13:14:32 < ReadError> haha 2016-07-08T13:14:37 < ReadError> sounds pretty niche 2016-07-08T13:15:06 < ReadError> self improvement ? 2016-07-08T13:15:10 < upgrdman> how so, dont thinks theres many people who can code but want to improve their skillset? 2016-07-08T13:15:55 < upgrdman> like architecture, patterns, tips and tricks, career planning advise, etc 2016-07-08T13:16:54 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/user/briantwill/videos 2016-07-08T13:17:25 < dongs> err 2016-07-08T13:17:28 < dongs> "patterns" in coding 2016-07-08T13:17:36 < upgrdman> ohsix, i know lots of people that learned those just enough to pass exams. myself included :( 2016-07-08T13:17:47 < dongs> oh, autism is still awake 2016-07-08T13:17:53 < dongs> should be plenty of lifeprotips available then 2016-07-08T13:18:03 < dongs> cuz ohsix self-taught to be super awesome 2016-07-08T13:18:09 < dongs> makin millions per year 2016-07-08T13:19:52 < dongs> upgrdman: the best self-improvement I've found is simply sitting the fuck down and doing it 2016-07-08T13:19:56 < dongs> and that means getting off irc 2016-07-08T13:20:04 < dongs> and having a clear goal of what the fuck you wanna achieve 2016-07-08T13:20:29 < upgrdman> ya ive done plenty of that 2016-07-08T13:20:43 < upgrdman> ohsix, link 2016-07-08T13:20:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-08T13:20:54 < dongs> and if youre failing after that, then you're either dumb or an autistic fuck like ohsix 2016-07-08T13:33:18 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T13:33:31 -!- anton02 is now known as anton03 2016-07-08T13:38:49 < qyx> do you have any recommended current regulator/reference ic? 2016-07-08T13:39:06 < qyx> besides LT3092 2016-07-08T13:39:19 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-08T13:40:10 -!- anton03 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 2016-07-08T13:44:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-164.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T13:51:01 < qyx> ohsix: how could it? 2016-07-08T13:51:27 < upgrdman> ohsix, thanks. i now have lots of assburglering material to watch. 2016-07-08T14:13:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T14:22:14 < upgrdman> no chatz :( i miss beaky. 2016-07-08T14:22:40 < qyx> much work to do 2016-07-08T14:22:51 < qyx> searching for a cable suitable to be used as a water level capacitive probe 2016-07-08T14:23:05 < BrainDamage> what is a little known but useful property of capacitive sensing? 2016-07-08T14:23:07 < BrainDamage> there 2016-07-08T14:23:23 < qyx> pls 2016-07-08T14:23:44 < karlp> so, debate here in the office, whether you're allowed/safe to have long straight traces or whether you should make them wiggly to avoid picking up noise 2016-07-08T14:24:12 < qyx> how could a wiggly trace avoid noise? 2016-07-08T14:25:02 < emeryth> harder to hit a moving target 2016-07-08T14:25:13 < upgrdman> braindamage, thx lol 2016-07-08T14:28:35 < Lux> karlp: i can't really imagine that that'll help 2016-07-08T14:28:57 < Lux> or does the capacitive/inductive coupling get reduced by that ? 2016-07-08T14:29:19 < Lux> it's probably just better to shield or run a ground signal parallel 2016-07-08T14:34:19 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T14:36:15 < qyx> this one looks promising http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231785920957 2016-07-08T14:40:42 < karlp> yeah, me and the old dude are like, "wtf, come up with some proof buddy" other dude is like, "straight line makes antenna!" 2016-07-08T14:46:38 < qyx> show him some nice curved ones 2016-07-08T14:49:12 < qyx> mhm, a 10 conductor flat ribbon cable works great for this capsense level measurement 2016-07-08T15:04:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T15:06:34 < dongs> FUCKING AC3 2016-07-08T15:06:36 < dongs> er AC6 2016-07-08T15:06:40 < dongs> fucking french faggots fuck 2016-07-08T15:06:52 < dongs> FUCK SW4STM32; SW4STM32 SUX; SW4STM32 IS DYING; SW4STM32 IS DEAD TO ME; SW4STM32 HIT WTC 2016-07-08T15:07:11 < ReadError> chibistudio 2016-07-08T15:07:17 < dongs> get fucked 2016-07-08T15:07:17 < ReadError> its made for windows and works 2016-07-08T15:13:40 < Cicero-MF> hahahaha, why? 2016-07-08T15:17:13 < ReadError> the download process is bad enough 2016-07-08T15:20:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-08T15:37:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T15:44:59 < upgrdman> dongs, wuts up with SW4NIGS? 2016-07-08T15:45:20 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T15:45:37 < Laurenceb__> shoot the police, race war now 2016-07-08T15:45:43 < Laurenceb__> murica makes memes real again 2016-07-08T15:59:10 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T15:59:48 < trepidacious> The ADS7950 datasheet is horrific, it's like they were trying to hide information from the enemy or something, just in this case the enemy is their customers... 2016-07-08T16:00:14 < trepidacious> http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/ads7950 2016-07-08T16:01:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-08T16:07:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-164.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-08T16:08:03 < danielinux> trepidacious, that's the most accurate description of any TI datasheet I've ever read. Thank you! 2016-07-08T16:16:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T16:17:52 < dongs> upgrdman: its complete fucking garbage 2016-07-08T16:17:57 < dongs> upgrdman: so I saved a project right 2016-07-08T16:18:02 < dongs> and upload to shithub 2016-07-08T16:18:06 < dongs> and t he nigger imports it 2016-07-08T16:18:11 < dongs> none of the shit works 2016-07-08T16:18:19 < dongs> build shit was broken, at least i fxied that 2016-07-08T16:18:22 < dongs> now debugging doesnt work 2016-07-08T16:18:27 < dongs> some fucking openocd error 2016-07-08T16:18:31 < dongs> i cannot fucking believe 2016-07-08T16:18:38 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-08T16:18:41 < dongs> that a .cproject or wahtever from shitclipse doenst have entire project metadata 2016-07-08T16:18:47 < dongs> paths/files/debugging shit/etc 2016-07-08T16:18:55 < dongs> fucking opensores faggotware god fuckign damn 2016-07-08T16:19:13 < upgrdman> oh ya, imalmost forgot that dicklipse does have nice project files 2016-07-08T16:19:15 < dongs> i mean i have a fucking .uvproj from keil 2016-07-08T16:19:21 < dongs> one click 2016-07-08T16:19:26 < dongs> everythign done/works 2016-07-08T16:19:30 < dongs> WHY CANT OPENSHIT DO THIS CRAP 2016-07-08T16:21:35 < aandrew> dongs what are you raging about now 2016-07-08T16:21:41 < dongs> just scroll the fuck up 2016-07-08T16:21:43 < dongs> im not repeating it again 2016-07-08T16:21:47 < dongs> but same shit: opensores not working 2016-07-08T16:21:51 < aandrew> you talk a LOT though 2016-07-08T16:21:51 < dongs> thats all i ever rage about 2016-07-08T16:21:58 < dongs> no its literally just the last 20 lines 2016-07-08T16:22:10 < aandrew> sw4stm32? 2016-07-08T16:22:13 < aandrew> I've never heard of the shit 2016-07-08T16:22:14 < dongs> ya. 2016-07-08T16:22:17 < dongs> you dont want to 2016-07-08T16:22:22 < dongs> its just dicklipse with some shitty french plugins 2016-07-08T16:22:26 < dongs> THAT IS SPONSORED BY STM 2016-07-08T16:22:29 < Cicero-MF> yeah, eclipse is the fucking worst for that 2016-07-08T16:22:30 < aandrew> oh fuck that 2016-07-08T16:22:32 < aandrew> dude 2016-07-08T16:22:34 < aandrew> eclipse? 2016-07-08T16:22:35 < dongs> soyou know, I sorta expected it to be ONE CLICK INSTALL 2016-07-08T16:22:37 < aandrew> fuuuuck 2016-07-08T16:22:39 < dongs> AND RUN + WORK 2016-07-08T16:22:43 < aandrew> yeah right 2016-07-08T16:22:48 < dongs> FINDING THAT OUT NOW. 2016-07-08T16:22:56 < aandrew> PIC does eclipse right but it's still fucking eclipse 2016-07-08T16:23:28 < dongs> yea? how about freescale PROCESSOR EXPERT 2016-07-08T16:23:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T16:23:48 < dongs> or i guess ex cock warrior 2016-07-08T16:23:52 < dongs> also : eclipse 2016-07-08T16:29:50 < aandrew> oh fuck codewarrior 2016-07-08T16:29:51 < aandrew> fuck eclips 2016-07-08T16:29:54 < aandrew> fuck IDEs in general 2016-07-08T16:29:58 < aandrew> they're a lovely crutch 2016-07-08T16:30:12 < aandrew> there hasn't been an IDE or code generator that hasn't fucked me at some point or another 2016-07-08T16:30:17 < aandrew> eclips is pretty good at doing it too 2016-07-08T16:30:29 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T16:30:59 < aandrew> it's the only fucking IDE I know of where your code will build just fucking fine from the command line ("make") but the IDE can't build it becuase some internal database is fucked. no useful error, nothing to help you figure out the IDE's shit itself so you end up trying to figure out what is wrong with your code 2016-07-08T16:33:10 < karlp> fuck eclipse 2016-07-08T16:33:30 < trepidacious> danielinux: heh :) 2016-07-08T16:33:39 < aandrew> TI's datasheets aren't THAT bad 2016-07-08T16:33:39 < karlp> netbeans just uses your makefiles. project file is only for saving things like run configurations and search indices 2016-07-08T16:34:19 < dongs> http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-07-08/u-s-capitol-on-lockdown-capitol-police-tell-staffers 2016-07-08T16:34:22 < dongs> RIP usa 2016-07-08T16:34:31 < ReadError> I dont see what the prob is 2016-07-08T16:34:39 < ReadError> chibistudio has built ever makefile project ever 2016-07-08T16:34:49 < ReadError> non-chibi things too 2016-07-08T16:35:01 < ReadError> just works, debugging too 2016-07-08T16:35:09 < trepidacious> I've read ok TI datasheets too, just this particular one is really bad 2016-07-08T16:35:55 < dongs> but shittystudio is just eclipse 2016-07-08T16:35:57 < dongs> HOW IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT 2016-07-08T16:36:28 < trepidacious> Like their way of telling you that in "manual" mode you can send a new channel with each SPI transfer, and you will get a convesion of the channel on the next transfer, is to copy and paste a huge flowchart box 3 times to show 3 transfers, with a different channel number in each one and the other 10 lines of text just repeated. So I have to read the whole thing and do a mental diff to work out that's what they mean. 2016-07-08T16:36:41 < trepidacious> Except maybe I missed something changing in the middle of all the copy pasta, I don't know... 2016-07-08T16:36:45 < trepidacious> I'll just try it 2016-07-08T16:37:50 < trepidacious> Then they seem to have a 4-bit command at the start of each possible 16 bit transfer, but they don't have a table of the values anywhere, they just put each one at the top of its own table about 5 pages apart. Again I have to read every single one to find out whether that is always the structure of a 16 bit transfer 2016-07-08T16:37:52 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-08T16:38:31 < trepidacious> There are several places where a table of bits would be REALLY nice, but instead they just write a rambling essay about it with bit numbers scattered through it and little tangents about what they had for breakfast. 2016-07-08T16:38:57 < trepidacious> They'll describe the same exact thing using two different sentences in two consecutive rows of a table. 2016-07-08T16:38:58 < ReadError> dongs it is 2016-07-08T16:39:19 < ReadError> it works for starters and is way less disgusting 2016-07-08T16:45:49 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T16:48:02 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-08T16:48:02 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-07-08T16:56:06 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T17:02:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-08T17:02:40 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T17:08:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-08T17:12:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T17:17:48 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-08T17:23:19 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T17:26:25 < karlp> trepidacious: what are you doing with that TI adc? what'st he deal with including the mux on board, but expecting you to use an external buffer from MXO to AINP? 2016-07-08T17:28:43 < trepidacious> karlp: I don't think you have to - you just can if you don't have a low-impedance source 2016-07-08T17:29:03 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-07-08T17:30:28 < trepidacious> They have an awesome timing diagram for SPI as well - I guess data is set up on falling edge and read on rising edge, but who knows :) 2016-07-08T17:30:50 < trepidacious> Ah yeah they tell you in the table 2016-07-08T17:35:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T17:42:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-08T17:51:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T18:00:20 < dongs> PaulFertser: 2016-07-08T18:00:28 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/YwhkJw34.html 2016-07-08T18:03:43 < karlp> dongs: what, don't like openocd's default log output? ;) 2016-07-08T18:04:20 < PaulFertser> dongs: open failed with stlink means it can't communicate with the target at all. Stlink can't that is. 2016-07-08T18:04:50 < PaulFertser> dongs: probably you want "reset_config connect_assert_srst" to ignore whatever target firmware is already running. 2016-07-08T18:05:17 < dongs> PaulFertser: this works on MY MACHINE 2016-07-08T18:05:33 < PaulFertser> dongs: I mean -c "reset_config connect_assert_srst" -c program "ttt.elf verify reset exit" 2016-07-08T18:05:41 < dongs> this is some eclipse shit 2016-07-08T18:05:44 < dongs> its just calling openocd. 2016-07-08T18:06:18 < PaulFertser> dongs: oh, open afiled means stlink itself can't be opened. Probably permissions problem. 2016-07-08T18:06:32 < dongs> permissions on windows? 2016-07-08T18:06:35 < dongs> le fuck 2016-07-08T18:06:42 < PaulFertser> Probably winusb drivers on windows. 2016-07-08T18:06:56 < dongs> they're installed. 2016-07-08T18:06:59 < PaulFertser> But stlink comes with winusb out of the box usually. 2016-07-08T18:07:03 < dongs> it does. 2016-07-08T18:07:04 < PaulFertser> After you install the official stlink software. 2016-07-08T18:07:36 < Laurenceb> lulwinusb 2016-07-08T18:07:41 < PaulFertser> Probably already in use? 2016-07-08T18:07:54 < PaulFertser> jtag_libusb_open() is the call that fails there 2016-07-08T18:08:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T18:09:09 < dongs> fuck 2016-07-08T18:09:34 < dongs> same shit 2016-07-08T18:10:24 < PaulFertser> haha, windows 2016-07-08T18:10:56 < dongs> more like haha shitty opensores 2016-07-08T18:14:28 < dongs> PaulFertser: does os bitness matter 2016-07-08T18:14:34 < dongs> faggot installed 32bit eclipse/shit 2016-07-08T18:15:24 < dongs> gonna try running as admin i guess 2016-07-08T18:15:36 < ReadError> kawaii studio one? 2016-07-08T18:15:47 < dongs> no man fuck off I dont install aids 2016-07-08T18:15:47 < ReadError> works on win10 here 2016-07-08T18:15:59 < ReadError> lol bish you installed AC6 2016-07-08T18:16:09 < ReadError> pretty sure you have full blown aids 2016-07-08T18:16:14 < dongs> k same shit under admin 2016-07-08T18:16:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-08T18:16:23 < dongs> PaulFertser: how can i make that trash MORE VERBOSE 2016-07-08T18:16:36 < PaulFertser> dongs: -d3 2016-07-08T18:16:42 < PaulFertser> But won't help with libusb_open 2016-07-08T18:16:56 < dongs> no difference at all 2016-07-08T18:17:02 < dongs> WHY IS THERE EVEN LIBUSB INVOLVED HOLY FUCK 2016-07-08T18:17:08 < dongs> its a fucking winusb driver 2016-07-08T18:17:33 < dongs> can i try on command line for some more aids 2016-07-08T18:19:32 < ReadError> ./openocd.exe -f ../scripts/interface/stlink-v2-1.cfg -f ../scripts/board/stm32f3discovery.cfg 2016-07-08T18:19:40 < dongs> i guess i dont even know where the fuck the scripts are 2016-07-08T18:19:42 < dongs> nope not on this thing 2016-07-08T18:24:44 < dongs> ReadError: and waht should that do 2016-07-08T18:24:59 < ReadError> prints a bunch of stuff 2016-07-08T18:25:03 < ReadError> connecting 2016-07-08T18:25:21 < dongs> nah it fucking doesnt 2016-07-08T18:25:29 < dongs> f4discovery.cfg fucking tries to open wrong stlink cfg 2016-07-08T18:25:32 < dongs> which doenst exist 2016-07-08T18:25:34 < dongs> man complete fucking aids 2016-07-08T18:25:57 < dongs> of course the fucking files are crlf 2016-07-08T18:25:58 < dongs> or wahtever 2016-07-08T18:26:00 < dongs> LUNIX format 2016-07-08T18:26:04 < dongs> so notepad isnt reading them 2016-07-08T18:28:12 < ReadError> http://hastebin.com/fuzikecane.tex 2016-07-08T18:28:17 < ReadError> them 2 work 2016-07-08T18:28:44 < ReadError> stlink v2.1 is hardcoded though 2016-07-08T18:29:28 < dongs> Error: BUG: current_target out of bounds 2016-07-08T18:29:29 < Simon--> wordpad opens \n stuff, no? 2016-07-08T18:29:46 < Simon--> memories from decades ago 2016-07-08T18:29:50 < dongs> it does 2016-07-08T18:29:51 < dongs> lols. 2016-07-08T18:31:50 < dongs> > After a lot of tracking and debuging and printf-ing, it turns out that 2016-07-08T18:31:50 < dongs> > 2016-07-08T18:31:50 < dongs> > oocd_swd_transport_init() is calling the get_current_target() which 2016-07-08T18:31:50 < dongs> > calls get_target_by_num(0) function, but the all_targets list is 2016-07-08T18:31:50 < dongs> > empty. 2016-07-08T18:32:00 < dongs> ... 2016-07-08T18:32:03 < dongs> so much aids 2016-07-08T18:32:07 < dongs> dont even know where to start 2016-07-08T18:32:21 < dongs> PaulFertser: openocd DOESNT FUCKING DISAPPOINT 2016-07-08T18:32:27 < dongs> 2016, i've got ~20 command propmpts open 2016-07-08T18:32:28 < dongs> and nothing works 2016-07-08T18:32:35 < dongs> JUST LIKE 10 YEARSR AGO 2016-07-08T18:32:46 < englishman> you're holding it wrong 2016-07-08T18:32:50 < dongs> absolutely 2016-07-08T18:33:07 * karlp laughs 2016-07-08T18:35:56 < dongs> Debug: 257 128 stlink_usb.c:1714 stlink_usb_open(): transport: 1 vid: 0x0483 pid: 0x3748 serial: 2016-07-08T18:35:59 < dongs> Error: 258 328 stlink_usb.c:1727 stlink_usb_open(): open failed 2016-07-08T18:36:28 < dongs> its trying to open 3748 2016-07-08T18:36:31 < dongs> the shit i have plugged in 2016-07-08T18:36:34 < dongs> is 374b 2016-07-08T18:36:41 < dongs> why the shit does that evne matter 2016-07-08T18:36:49 < dongs> wqhere the fuck would it be looking for this? 2016-07-08T18:36:52 < dongs> which cfg 2016-07-08T18:37:12 < ReadError> its the v2 v2-1 stuff? 2016-07-08T18:39:29 < dongs> yes it is 2016-07-08T18:45:45 < ReadError> so use the right config 2016-07-08T18:46:39 < dongs> wrote 32768 bytes from file fuckingaids.elf in 1.193958s (26.802 KiB/s) 2016-07-08T18:47:21 < ReadError> congrats, any adafruit forum reader would have been done by now 2016-07-08T18:50:28 < dongs> bro. i only use pro tools 2016-07-08T18:53:38 < Laurenceb> wut https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sats_xld1OU 2016-07-08T18:54:18 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-08T18:54:22 < Laurenceb> side effects might include getting your head cut off. 2016-07-08T18:54:24 < Laurenceb> I lulld 2016-07-08T18:58:47 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@2a00:5881:4008:508:a11a:1301:4:123] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:02:28 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-08T19:04:33 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T19:13:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:15:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-08T19:27:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-08T19:31:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.190] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:34:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-08T19:35:15 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:36:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:39:17 < ReadMobl> Laurenceblogkiller 2016-07-08T19:43:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:46:01 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-08T19:56:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:57:47 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T19:59:07 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-08T19:59:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: We be chillin - IceChat style] 2016-07-08T20:12:20 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:1068:b3bf:817:7767] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T20:22:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T20:27:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:1068:b3bf:817:7767] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-08T20:31:05 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T20:32:54 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-08T20:45:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-08T20:46:51 < Laurenceb> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1467937322175-1.jpg 2016-07-08T20:52:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T20:52:40 < englishman> Laurenceb is still sore about the Norse occupation of England 2016-07-08T20:56:14 < carabia> Laurenceb, cartoons are all fine and dandy cause in them, you can create a bullshit argument such as this and provide an equally bullshit solution to it, such as the one in said cartoon. 2016-07-08T21:00:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.208] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T21:04:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T21:11:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T21:17:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-08T21:25:53 < Tectu> what an unfortunate URL for such a business.... http://hugeone.co.uk 2016-07-08T21:26:34 < BrainDamage> pretty sure they chose it themselves 2016-07-08T21:26:41 < Tectu> click bait 2016-07-08T21:27:06 < BrainDamage> dick bait* 2016-07-08T21:29:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T21:33:24 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T21:39:14 < karlp> heh, zilog has a cortex m3 now. 2016-07-08T21:40:42 < karlp> I wonder what the selling point is, or just brand loyaly? 2016-07-08T21:42:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.46.87.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-08T21:46:25 < karlp> heh, intro says 16ch adc, details only 11ch 2016-07-08T21:48:25 < karlp> http://www.zilog.com/captain_zilog/eng_201001/ 2016-07-08T21:50:59 < emeb> 5 chls internal monitors (vdd, temp, etc)? 2016-07-08T21:54:31 < englishman> captain zilog, wtf 2016-07-08T22:13:23 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-08T22:47:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:51d1:6676:20c7:52ae] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T23:02:01 < Rob235> so I have a cheap usb powered fan and when I plug it in the blade spins a tiny bit (a couple degrees) and stops, bad motor? 2016-07-08T23:06:59 < Tectu> does it happen on all USB ports? :D 2016-07-08T23:07:24 < Tectu> also try some phone charger thingy to ensure that it's not a max-current issue 2016-07-08T23:07:27 < Rob235> yea, tried my laptop and a powered usb hub 2016-07-08T23:07:42 < Rob235> it's my gf's, she uses it at work and it just stopped working 2016-07-08T23:07:42 < zyp> bad encoder perhaps? 2016-07-08T23:07:54 < Tectu> well there's your problem 2016-07-08T23:08:39 < Rob235> not even sure it's worth opening up, wouldn't know what to look for and I think it was only a few bucks 2016-07-08T23:31:41 -!- idmond [2944a8bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.68.168.189] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-07-08T23:39:27 < Rob235> could it be the hall sensor? 2016-07-08T23:39:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.208] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-08T23:40:03 < Rob235> probably is 2016-07-08T23:43:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T23:45:08 < karlp> is it even going to have encoders or sensors at all? 2016-07-08T23:45:27 < Rob235> the fan? 2016-07-08T23:45:38 < Rob235> I'm not making it, just trying to repair it 2016-07-08T23:48:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-08T23:51:58 < Rob235> yea, just trying to find out why it stopped working though, its getting power fine and it does start to spin when it first gets power but stops after at most a quarter of a turn so it seems like the hall sensor isn't doing its job? 2016-07-08T23:52:17 < Rob235> yea probably just gonna buy a new one, it was so cheap 2016-07-08T23:52:19 < karlp> why would there be a hall sensor? is it some fancy usb fan that has variable speeds? 2016-07-08T23:52:52 < Rob235> yea I said I tried a powered usb hub that provides 1 amp 2016-07-08T23:53:23 < Rob235> http://danyk.cz/hall_en.html 2016-07-08T23:53:41 < Rob235> it's just like that first pic 2016-07-08T23:54:21 < Rob235> first non schematic pic 2016-07-08T23:54:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:51d1:6676:20c7:52ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-08T23:54:33 < karlp> I'd be surprised if the hall element was the fail portion anyway, 2016-07-08T23:54:55 < karlp> cheap fan would be the mechanics of the fan rather than solid state component 2016-07-08T23:55:07 < Rob235> yea i guess, oh well 2016-07-08T23:56:00 < Rob235> not worth the time :) 2016-07-08T23:58:00 < Rob235> https://www.amazon.com/OPOLAR-F401-Personal-Operation-Compatibility/dp/B00WM7TRTY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468011458&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=opolar+fan&psc=1 2016-07-08T23:58:05 < Rob235> thats the fan, only 10 bucks 2016-07-08T23:58:43 < Tectu> what a horrible thing to purchase 2016-07-08T23:59:03 < Tectu> Rob235, can't you hook it up to a lab supply to measure current? 2016-07-08T23:59:13 < Tectu> just to know whether it's fucked up or fucked up --- Day changed Sat Jul 09 2016 2016-07-09T00:00:39 < Rob235> Tectu: don't have one 2016-07-09T00:00:41 < Rob235> yea metal blades 2016-07-09T00:01:09 < Tectu> metal != heaver_than_plastic 2016-07-09T00:01:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T00:01:22 < Tectu> also, it used to work, ohsix 2016-07-09T00:01:32 < Tectu> Rob235, I'm not sure whether it's even worth dicking around with that thing 2016-07-09T00:01:37 < Tectu> Rob235, I guess it's not really maintenance friendly 2016-07-09T00:01:54 < Rob235> its not worth it, I opened it up because I was curious but I've lost interest 2016-07-09T00:02:49 < Tectu> yes, but you can't get it through prime :D 2016-07-09T00:07:39 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-09T00:10:42 < Rob235> heh 2016-07-09T00:10:42 < Rob235> https://www.amazon.com/Flexible-Gooseneck-Flashing-Function-Notebook/dp/B01AFVDDVG/ref=pd_sim_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=518nw5P0EiL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=0MN4SVNQS365JVVRMQCE 2016-07-09T00:13:03 < ReadError> Debian® GNU/kFreeBSD is a general purpose GNU distribution for amd64/i386 that uses the FreeBSD kernel, which provides an OpenZFS implementation. 2016-07-09T00:13:03 < ReadError> An official Debian release, still using GNU libc and with ninety percent of the same software packages available. 2016-07-09T00:13:07 < ReadError> what the actual fuck 2016-07-09T00:16:58 < ReadError> submissions = ? 2016-07-09T00:17:07 < Tectu> it's an escort thing, ReadError 2016-07-09T00:17:14 < Tectu> submissive escorts 2016-07-09T00:17:16 < ReadError> ahhh 2016-07-09T00:17:20 < ReadError> hows the game my friend? 2016-07-09T00:17:59 < Tectu> delayed by two days due to bad weather 2016-07-09T00:18:01 < Tectu> if you know what I mean 2016-07-09T00:30:05 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T00:34:27 < Laurenceb__> ((())) 2016-07-09T00:39:04 < Laurenceb__> JUST 2016-07-09T00:41:36 < Steffanx> i missed you very much crt. 2016-07-09T00:44:24 < Laurenceb__> I'm getting good vibrations 2016-07-09T00:47:51 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8 2016-07-09T00:48:40 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyH0DyWdGbg 2016-07-09T00:54:42 < Laurenceb__> autism6 2016-07-09T00:57:09 < Laurenceb__> .ass.org 2016-07-09T00:57:41 < Laurenceb__> WTF 2016-07-09T00:57:47 < Laurenceb__> how do you find this shit 2016-07-09T00:58:49 < Laurenceb__> lul well I won't be applying 2016-07-09T01:01:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-09T01:16:12 < Rob235> hmm fuck school, I'm going to start working on my drone again 2016-07-09T01:20:32 < Rob235> this is a stupid question but how does USB work? what kind of protocol is it? how many wires? 2016-07-09T01:21:21 < Rob235> 2 + pwr/gnd? 2016-07-09T01:21:47 < Tectu> Rob235, stop blogging in here 2016-07-09T01:22:36 < Tectu> no, I hate you. 2016-07-09T01:22:38 < Rob235> everyone in here does, at least it was stm32 related 2016-07-09T01:22:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-09T01:22:45 < Tectu> awh fuck, didn't mean to hit enter on that one. sorry :D 2016-07-09T01:23:37 < Tectu> hey crt o/ 2016-07-09T01:54:39 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/YgPYAF6 2016-07-09T01:56:00 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/3VO17VO 2016-07-09T01:57:11 < Laurenceb__> robotlivesmatter 2016-07-09T01:57:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T02:00:41 < kakimir> sup 2016-07-09T02:01:43 < Laurenceb__> trollercoaster 2016-07-09T02:04:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-09T02:05:54 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: how is summer? 2016-07-09T02:06:00 < Laurenceb__> too hot 2016-07-09T02:06:12 < Laurenceb__> 24C atm 2016-07-09T02:06:26 < Laurenceb__> need to cool my kitchen but too many bugs getting inside :S 2016-07-09T02:07:13 < Laurenceb__> anything between 4 and 12C for me 2016-07-09T02:07:29 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: try this new innovation called bug screen 2016-07-09T02:08:00 < kakimir> it's like mesh made of plastic that little fuckery can not penetrate 2016-07-09T02:08:18 < Laurenceb__> yeah I have some but somehow they are getting through :S 2016-07-09T02:08:18 < kakimir> or made of metal* 2016-07-09T02:08:33 < Laurenceb__> time to move further north :D 2016-07-09T02:09:17 < kakimir> why not south england 2016-07-09T02:09:29 < kakimir> I bet it's nice 2016-07-09T02:10:02 < kakimir> doesn't it get hotter more inside the island as you go north to south? 2016-07-09T02:10:09 < kakimir> like 10degrees or so 2016-07-09T02:11:12 < Laurenceb__> yeah I'm dead center 2016-07-09T02:11:36 < Laurenceb__> but climate swing is way better here than most places 2016-07-09T02:11:46 < kakimir> sounds radical 2016-07-09T02:11:54 < Laurenceb__> like -5C to 25C most years 2016-07-09T02:12:19 < kakimir> I can feel the autumn already here 2016-07-09T02:12:26 < kakimir> nites get darker 2016-07-09T02:13:07 < kakimir> there is not like that fresh early summer weather but like heavy full of moist and smells and bugs 2016-07-09T02:13:49 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-09T02:13:52 < kakimir> google drive let's you pick a color for directorys now½!!!!! 2016-07-09T02:13:57 < kakimir> this is innovation 2016-07-09T02:13:59 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T02:14:18 < kakimir> I can see my directory right away as I can not just type to find it 2016-07-09T02:16:56 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2GcdpJiNGfKZC1NQTliakdKbFE&usp=sharing I wonder if 1layer 300g-glass/350g-poly 1meter x 1.2meter piece would hold itself intact in non structual use? 2016-07-09T02:17:05 < kakimir> like that thing cut in halv 2016-07-09T02:18:10 < kakimir> function as cover 2016-07-09T02:18:17 < kakimir> of stone wool 2016-07-09T02:24:13 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-09T02:24:28 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T02:24:54 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-09T02:28:19 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T02:44:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-09T02:50:41 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T02:55:50 < Laurenceb__> Transformation of the university examination timetabling problem space through data pre-processing. PhD thesis 2016-07-09T02:55:56 < Laurenceb__> thats pretty Meta 2016-07-09T02:57:52 < scrts> guys, do you know a good usb to i2c master bridge? 2016-07-09T02:58:08 < scrts> seems like possible to do with ft232h, but wonder if there's anything else? 2016-07-09T03:00:29 < Thorn> there was a newer generation of ftdi ICs 2016-07-09T03:01:15 < Thorn> http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/ICs/FT201X.html 2016-07-09T03:03:02 < Thorn> >The device is an I2C slave ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2016-07-09T03:03:23 < scrts> Thorn-> exactly 2016-07-09T03:03:30 < scrts> I've seen this, but I need a master one :) 2016-07-09T03:07:05 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-l-OkR5yDk if you ever wonder why three stripe is a thing in slav countries 2016-07-09T03:09:32 < kakimir> I wonder what prices are in there and if counterfeits are concidered a bad thing 2016-07-09T03:12:18 < kakimir> no 2016-07-09T03:14:20 < kakimir> we aren't the kids nowdays? 2016-07-09T03:19:37 < dongs> scrts: ... any <$1 STM32 with USB? 2016-07-09T03:19:52 < dongs> cuz any FTDI trash will be more expensie 2016-07-09T03:20:44 < dongs> you can just buttbang I2C master on any ftdi with GPIO 2016-07-09T03:24:39 < scrts> dongs-> given that I will need this crap for like 6 months max 2016-07-09T03:24:51 < scrts> I will spend ages coding that... 2016-07-09T03:24:58 < dongs> scrts: pickup a Ti devkit 2016-07-09T03:25:00 < scrts> because I will also need PC side software and GUI 2016-07-09T03:25:01 < dongs> one of hteir led drivers for example 2016-07-09T03:25:07 < dongs> it comes with a nice usb>gpio/i2c/spi thingy 2016-07-09T03:25:16 < dongs> and enclosure 2016-07-09T03:25:20 < dongs> lemme find it. 2016-07-09T03:25:25 < scrts> USB2ANY? 2016-07-09T03:25:51 < scrts> I was leaning towards FT232H because they have PC side library 2016-07-09T03:28:05 < dongs> http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Texas%20Instr%20Photos/TPS61195EVM-460.jpg 2016-07-09T03:28:12 < dongs> scrts: ^ that thing, trying to find what the name of it is 2016-07-09T03:28:44 < dongs> USB-TO-GPIO i guess yeah 2016-07-09T03:28:59 < aandrew> no idea what that is 2016-07-09T03:29:12 < dongs> its $75 on TI store BUT if you buy that led driver, its onlyt $50 together with that EVM HEH 2016-07-09T03:29:17 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/tool/usb-to-gpio 2016-07-09T03:29:56 < scrts> I have butt pirate 2016-07-09T03:29:58 < scrts> hmm, good idea 2016-07-09T03:30:02 < scrts> need to dig it out 2016-07-09T03:30:02 < dongs> that works. 2016-07-09T03:30:25 < scrts> dongs-> ohsix said it 2016-07-09T03:30:31 < dongs> scrts: sorry to hear that 2016-07-09T03:30:50 < scrts> anyway, thanks for all the proposals 2016-07-09T03:30:55 < dongs> i suspected autism was in full-swing when you started saying stuff without repying to anyone in particular 2016-07-09T03:31:54 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/MX28s8k.gifv ohsix spotted 2016-07-09T03:33:06 < kakimir> K.O. 2016-07-09T03:33:55 < aandrew> damn son 2016-07-09T03:39:53 < kakimir> I bet all these IDC connectors in ebay are non glass filled plastic and melt also when baked 2016-07-09T03:39:59 < kakimir> if 2016-07-09T03:41:23 < dongs> unless they are specifically reflow rated, yes 2016-07-09T03:42:19 < kakimir> and those usually all are glass filled too? 2016-07-09T03:44:12 < kakimir> I like the feel of reinforced plastic 2016-07-09T03:44:19 < kakimir> and look 2016-07-09T03:44:24 < kakimir> that ceramic look 2016-07-09T03:44:31 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-09T03:44:37 < Laurenceb__> ohsixlivesmatter 2016-07-09T03:45:38 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/TrIdy4.png 2016-07-09T03:45:43 < kakimir> like 2usd a piece for small one 2016-07-09T03:48:58 < dongs> crt, since when did you turn into laurence/pol/ 2016-07-09T03:49:32 < dongs> k 2016-07-09T03:49:54 < dongs> i gotta pinout a F405. shitty work innovation 2016-07-09T03:50:46 < dongs> STM32 for makers Releasing your creativity 2016-07-09T03:53:09 < dongs> zyp: did you ever find a standard micro ab connector 2016-07-09T03:53:20 < dongs> or were you gonna just fuckit and use normal micro 2016-07-09T03:53:30 < zyp> ya, fuckit 2016-07-09T03:53:42 < dongs> sounds good to me 2016-07-09T03:53:44 < dongs> less patterns to draw 2016-07-09T03:53:50 < dongs> got a OTG proj 2016-07-09T03:54:16 < zyp> eh, for real OTG I'd consider AB 2016-07-09T03:54:25 < zyp> or even C now actually 2016-07-09T03:54:31 < dongs> well i mean.. USB host k 2016-07-09T03:54:44 < dongs> or was it device? 2016-07-09T03:55:06 < dongs> wait never mind my shit is not evne otg its just device using that USB_OTG_FS core part. 2016-07-09T03:55:22 < dongs> so yeah regular socket. 2016-07-09T03:55:27 < zyp> haha 2016-07-09T03:56:10 < zyp> ohsix, yes 2016-07-09T03:56:16 < zyp> fits a and b 2016-07-09T03:56:28 < zyp> while b socket only fits b plugs 2016-07-09T03:56:40 < zyp> host end 2016-07-09T03:57:07 < zyp> all the otg capable ports on discovery boards are micro-ab 2016-07-09T03:57:14 < zyp> like f4 and f7 discovery 2016-07-09T03:57:23 < dongs> also not sure if always the case but AB ones seem to be backwards 2016-07-09T03:57:42 < zyp> dongs, backwards how? 2016-07-09T03:57:49 < dongs> plug orientation and pinout 2016-07-09T03:57:56 < zyp> I'm sure both b and ab comes in both top and bottom orientations 2016-07-09T03:58:03 < dongs> mkay 2016-07-09T03:58:28 < dongs> so for device shit I dont even need to hookup ID/VBUS_FS shit? 2016-07-09T03:58:34 < dongs> just use it as normal 2016-07-09T03:58:36 < zyp> hmm, I wonder how much fuckery you need to do usb2 OTG with a C connector 2016-07-09T03:58:48 < dongs> is there even an ID pin on C? 2016-07-09T03:58:55 < zyp> no 2016-07-09T03:59:04 < zyp> it's handled by separate logic 2016-07-09T03:59:27 < dongs> over the CC shit? 2016-07-09T03:59:43 < zyp> I wonder if there's a simple chip that'll handle that logic and give a ID-pin compatible output 2016-07-09T04:00:06 < dongs> https://www.amazon.com/Type-C-Cable-quality-Female-Black/dp/B00SHM4HS4 2016-07-09T04:00:08 < dongs> cables exist 2016-07-09T04:00:34 < zyp> the chips I've seen so far contain full differential lane muxes for usb3 shit 2016-07-09T04:00:39 < zyp> usb2 doesn't need that complexity 2016-07-09T04:00:46 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-09T04:00:51 < zyp> I picked up some adapters in jp 2016-07-09T04:00:55 < zyp> but that's not what I mean 2016-07-09T04:01:03 < dongs> ya i get it 2016-07-09T04:01:06 < dongs> wsomething just for usb2 part. 2016-07-09T04:01:09 < zyp> I'm talking about the chip to detect what gets plugged into a socket 2016-07-09T04:01:37 < zyp> it's pretty simple resistor shit, so you could probably do that with some gpios and maybe adc 2016-07-09T04:01:58 < zyp> but that's too much bother 2016-07-09T04:02:16 < zyp> device only just needs the usb c socket and two resistors and it's good to go 2016-07-09T04:02:47 < zyp> but host needs to check that it's actually connected to a device and not another host before it turns on power 2016-07-09T04:03:01 < zyp> and dual role device obviously needs to figure out what it's connected to 2016-07-09T04:03:02 < zyp> hmm 2016-07-09T04:03:13 < zyp> maybe host only can be done with only a couple of transistors 2016-07-09T04:04:35 < zyp> haha, cypress got some parts with built in cortex-m0: http://www.cypress.com/products/usb-type-c-and-power-delivery 2016-07-09T04:05:01 < zyp> ohsix, I have one of those 2016-07-09T04:05:19 < zyp> wait, micro socket? 2016-07-09T04:05:25 < zyp> oh 2016-07-09T04:05:31 < zyp> I thought you meant plug, for otg 2016-07-09T04:05:47 < zyp> I have a usb 3 hub with micro 3 socket 2016-07-09T04:05:51 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-09T04:07:31 < dongs> thefuck is micro3 2016-07-09T04:07:44 < zyp> the wide shit 2016-07-09T04:07:53 < zyp> micro with usb3 next to it 2016-07-09T04:07:54 < dongs> the one thats half usb2 and extra shit for highspeed? 2016-07-09T04:07:57 < zyp> yes 2016-07-09T04:07:57 < dongs> yeah k 2016-07-09T04:08:01 < dongs> that shit is fucking fail 2016-07-09T04:08:05 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-09T04:08:12 < dongs> but i always wondered 2016-07-09T04:08:15 < dongs> if you ONLY needed USB3 2016-07-09T04:08:19 < dongs> can you just cut off hte usb2 part. 2016-07-09T04:09:00 < zyp> dunno, maybe 2016-07-09T04:09:27 < zyp> AFAIK the usb2 link and usb3 link are enumerated separately 2016-07-09T04:09:51 < zyp> so I believe a device could ignore the usb2 lane completely 2016-07-09T04:10:20 < zyp> or maybe not, idk 2016-07-09T04:10:24 < zyp> I've never worked with usb3 2016-07-09T04:11:22 < zyp> ohsix, don't think so 2016-07-09T04:16:00 < englishman> when step thru debugging with spi 2016-07-09T04:16:12 < englishman> rx fifo clears itself when viewing its register 2016-07-09T04:16:13 < englishman> normal? 2016-07-09T04:16:19 < dongs> sounds like it 2016-07-09T04:16:21 < englishman> everything works if im not debugging 2016-07-09T04:16:22 < englishman> yeah 2016-07-09T04:16:31 < zyp> ohsix, OTG had some SRP/HNP shit, might be that 2016-07-09T04:16:32 < dongs> pretty sure viewing some of the registers clears the flags 2016-07-09T04:16:34 < zyp> irdk 2016-07-09T04:16:35 < dongs> is this f3 or someshit? 2016-07-09T04:16:38 < englishman> f0 2016-07-09T04:16:42 < dongs> cuz why else would you be using fifo 2016-07-09T04:17:05 < englishman> just dr / rxne dicking themselves 2016-07-09T04:18:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-09T04:24:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T04:26:11 < dongs> wow 2016-07-09T04:26:14 < dongs> this F4 project is awesome 2016-07-09T04:26:22 < dongs> the only pins I'm using is everything on PBx port 2016-07-09T04:26:25 < dongs> the rest are empty 2016-07-09T04:26:32 < zyp> haha 2016-07-09T04:26:42 < dongs> well, USB on PA11/12 2016-07-09T04:26:43 < dongs> thats it 2016-07-09T04:27:06 < dongs> SPI2/3 and a timer on PB0 2016-07-09T04:27:13 < dongs> all those are on PB 2016-07-09T04:27:42 < englishman> and xtal on phx 2016-07-09T04:27:42 < zyp> and firmware's resource-heavy enough to call for a F4? 2016-07-09T04:28:13 < dongs> zyp, 405RB or something is cheap enough plus the code was already prototyped on -discuntvery 2016-07-09T04:28:19 < dongs> so definitely not interested in porting 2016-07-09T04:28:29 < zyp> ah 2016-07-09T04:28:53 < dongs> englishman: and vcap caps etc. 2016-07-09T04:31:19 < englishman> LIES 2016-07-09T04:31:39 < englishman> pb is the best p anyway 2016-07-09T04:33:51 < dongs> zyp how big were your SMT headers 2016-07-09T04:33:52 < dongs> 2x13? 2016-07-09T04:33:57 < dongs> the ones with align hole 2016-07-09T04:34:10 < zyp> the 100mil ones are 2x13 2016-07-09T04:34:18 < zyp> the 50mil ones are 2x25 2016-07-09T04:34:21 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-09T04:34:46 < dongs> hm i think imma gonna use the 2x13 then 2016-07-09T04:34:53 < dongs> if i find them 2016-07-09T04:35:40 < dongs> ya that looks great 2016-07-09T04:46:33 < zyp> hmm, these usb c chips looks pretty neat 2016-07-09T04:46:39 < dongs> which 2016-07-09T04:46:44 < zyp> cypress shit 2016-07-09T04:46:51 < zyp> http://www.cypress.com/products/usb-type-c-and-power-delivery 2016-07-09T04:46:51 < dongs> the powerdelivery shit? 2016-07-09T04:47:21 < zyp> whole range of shit that can go both into the cable itself and the devices in each end 2016-07-09T04:47:49 < zyp> and the smaller ones doesn't have muxes and shit 2016-07-09T04:48:05 < zyp> so they'd fit in nicely in usb2 shit 2016-07-09T04:48:33 < zyp> I mean, old style OTG would still need a power switch and overcurrent protection and shit for OTG, and this shit integrates that 2016-07-09T04:49:43 < dongs> psh 2016-07-09T04:49:47 < dongs> who needs overcurrent protection 2016-07-09T04:50:12 < zyp> you don't need it, but power switch chip usually integrates it anyway :p 2016-07-09T04:50:55 < zyp> anyway, CCG3 looks like a nice fit for a device that can both supply and receive power through a usb-c socket 2016-07-09T04:51:28 < zyp> only needs decoupling, a power sense resistor and fets for switching vbus 2016-07-09T04:51:41 < zyp> fet drivers and everything else is included 2016-07-09T04:52:46 < dongs> lul, cortex m0 with crypto? 2016-07-09T04:52:50 < dongs> how much is that thing, $10? 2016-07-09T04:53:18 < dongs> haha 2016-07-09T04:54:01 < zyp> hmm, digikey only has CCG1 and CCG2, not 3 2016-07-09T04:54:53 < zyp> CCG2 is $1.7@100 2016-07-09T04:55:18 < zyp> that's not bad for digikey 2016-07-09T04:56:07 < zyp> even cheaper at mouser 2016-07-09T04:56:26 < dongs> heh 2016-07-09T04:56:33 < dongs> hm looking for 3d model for that 2x13 thing 2016-07-09T04:56:40 < dongs> i thought samtec or someone had parametric model generator 2016-07-09T04:56:52 < zyp> fci? 2016-07-09T04:57:05 < zyp> or was it samtec 2016-07-09T04:57:12 < zyp> I used one of those at work 2016-07-09T04:57:26 < dongs> i know i've used one before but forgot who it was 2016-07-09T04:57:50 < zyp> ah, it's samtec 2016-07-09T04:58:32 < Lux> dongs: any idea if these STM32F301K6U6 are available in china for cheap? 2016-07-09T04:58:48 < Lux> seems pretty nice for 1-2$ at the official distributors 2016-07-09T05:00:04 < zyp> dongs, something like SSM-113-S-DV 2016-07-09T05:00:08 < zyp> https://wwws.samtec.com/build-a-part/BuildPart.aspx?series=ssm 2016-07-09T05:01:12 < dongs> hah, nice 2016-07-09T05:01:13 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-09T05:02:04 < dongs> wow they support all those 3d formats haha 2016-07-09T05:02:30 < dongs> Lux: asked, but doubt it 2016-07-09T05:02:45 < Lux> thanks 2016-07-09T05:02:56 < Lux> ya, they don't seem common 2016-07-09T05:03:31 < Lux> maybe i'll make an esc with that chip 2016-07-09T05:03:31 < dongs> that samtec 3d maker is pretty fuckin pro 2016-07-09T05:03:40 < dongs> lux, you dont need more than f0 for esc 2016-07-09T05:03:44 < Lux> the size is also nice with 5*5mm 2016-07-09T05:03:47 < aandrew> oh yeah samtec has a fucking baller website 2016-07-09T05:03:47 < dongs> Lux: not available 2016-07-09T05:04:02 < dongs> web 5.0 2016-07-09T05:04:28 < dongs> how doyou number pins on a header 2016-07-09T05:04:30 < zyp> dongs, hey, stupid idea: you should make ipad lcd adapter board with dp through usb-c input 2016-07-09T05:04:32 < dongs> around or zigzag 2016-07-09T05:04:34 < zyp> hmm 2016-07-09T05:04:45 < zyp> I wonder if it can actually do four lanes like that, or only two 2016-07-09T05:04:49 < dongs> zyp: yeah that'd be pretty cool, i'm making HDMI ones now tho 2016-07-09T05:04:51 < dongs> zyp, should be 4 2016-07-09T05:04:59 < dongs> the DP alternate mode shit? 2016-07-09T05:05:04 < zyp> yes 2016-07-09T05:05:31 < zyp> looks like this EVB for this thing routes four DP lanes to the usb-c connector 2016-07-09T05:05:45 < dongs> for CCGx? 2016-07-09T05:05:47 < zyp> http://www.cypress.com/sites/default/files/CCG3%20EVK%20Image_1.png 2016-07-09T05:05:49 < zyp> yes 2016-07-09T05:05:53 < Lux> i allready did an esc with f0, but more mcu power is allways nicer to play around especially if you want to do foc or higher pwm frequencies 2016-07-09T05:06:41 < zyp> CCG chip would just say «hey, I'm a DP device» and tell an external mux when it's actually hooked to DP 2016-07-09T05:06:42 < dongs> huh, where's the actual C connector? 2016-07-09T05:06:50 < dongs> thats the one on the lright of DP? 2016-07-09T05:06:52 < zyp> though, that EVB seems to be host side 2016-07-09T05:06:57 < zyp> no 2016-07-09T05:07:00 < zyp> left edge 2016-07-09T05:07:07 < zyp> idk what the huge metal shield is for 2016-07-09T05:07:07 < dongs> that wide weidr thing? 2016-07-09T05:07:10 < zyp> but it's under there 2016-07-09T05:07:33 < zyp> I mean, I assume that's where it is, from the labels and silk and all 2016-07-09T05:07:45 < dongs> if only modern laptops acutally fucking stop using that assmedia USB3 chip 2016-07-09T05:07:49 < dongs> and do proper DP alternate mode 2016-07-09T05:07:58 < dongs> then there'd be a market for something like that 2016-07-09T05:08:16 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-09T05:08:19 < dongs> yeah and beacuse diff lanes are routed there 2016-07-09T05:08:23 < dongs> but looks weird as fuck 2016-07-09T05:08:46 < zyp> are there other laptops than that weird macbook that can do dp alternate mode? 2016-07-09T05:09:48 < dongs> i donno, it would be nice if they standartized that shit so that if you had a usb-c and a laptop it HAD to support DP mode 2016-07-09T05:09:49 < zyp> I guess other laptops aren't small enough that they can't fit a normal dp socket so there's no point 2016-07-09T05:10:00 < zyp> or something 2016-07-09T05:10:00 < dongs> well intel IGP has like 2-3 displayport outputs 2016-07-09T05:10:06 < zyp> true 2016-07-09T05:10:17 < dongs> you get them for free, just a matter of acutally connecting hsit 2016-07-09T05:10:44 < dongs> k looks like all my pins are zigzag 2016-07-09T05:10:57 < dongs> 2 4 6 8 2016-07-09T05:10:59 < dongs> 1 3 5 7 2016-07-09T05:11:03 < dongs> will just keep same shit 2016-07-09T05:11:16 < zyp> hrm, 4am 2016-07-09T05:11:22 < dongs> time to stop assburgering 2016-07-09T05:11:31 < zyp> yeah, that's what I'm figuring 2016-07-09T05:11:47 < dongs> thx for samtec protip 2016-07-09T05:11:48 < zyp> do you still need that assembly drawing? 2016-07-09T05:11:52 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-09T05:11:59 < zyp> I'll see if I have time tomorrow 2016-07-09T05:12:02 < dongs> if you had altidumb16 you could just use draftsman 2016-07-09T05:12:06 < dongs> place->assembly drawing 2016-07-09T05:12:07 < dongs> done 2016-07-09T05:12:10 < zyp> been out most of the day yesterday and today 2016-07-09T05:12:28 < zyp> huh 2016-07-09T05:12:42 < zyp> idk, I can get you the file 2016-07-09T05:13:02 < dongs> just email me that shit and I'll shut up 2016-07-09T05:13:08 < dongs> ^_- 2016-07-09T05:13:20 < zyp> haha 2016-07-09T05:13:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T05:13:54 < zyp> if this'll be a permanent thing, I'll add it to the footprints in the lib 2016-07-09T05:13:58 < dongs> zyp, did you ever stop by fukuoka on the failtrip? 2016-07-09T05:14:28 < zyp> I did last year 2016-07-09T05:14:34 < dongs> if so: any weeb places to recommend there? 2016-07-09T05:14:42 < dongs> pal needs "anniemay figures" this weekend. 2016-07-09T05:15:03 < zyp> ah, no, didn't spend that much time there 2016-07-09T05:15:22 < dongs> sux. i guess will hit the usual animate/wahtever shit. i have no idea whats good where 2016-07-09T05:16:19 < zyp> I think I dropped by a yodobashi there, can't remember anything else 2016-07-09T05:17:10 < dongs> hm mkay 2016-07-09T05:17:19 < dongs> heh, samtec parametric thing even drew the metal contacts inside the connector 2016-07-09T05:18:10 < zyp> if you want a specific model, might as well add details 2016-07-09T05:18:26 < zyp> otherwise you could just stick with the grey box altium generates :p 2016-07-09T05:20:38 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T05:23:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T05:25:19 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T05:28:03 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T05:32:49 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T05:35:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T05:38:02 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-09T05:42:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-09T05:44:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T05:45:15 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T05:45:27 < decimad> I think every project's got a dongs to it ;) 2016-07-09T05:49:36 < decimad> ohno! 2016-07-09T06:23:20 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-09T06:25:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T06:34:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T07:21:10 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T07:44:44 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28wb0civp59m3l8.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T07:48:50 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T07:52:48 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-09T07:52:54 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-09T08:04:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-09T08:42:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T08:47:59 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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It would be nice to be able to program to do certain repetative functions in production 2016-07-09T09:14:58 < boB_K7IQ> easily suitable to something like 2 or 3 arms and tweezer fingers 2016-07-09T09:15:09 < boB_K7IQ> edward scissorhands 2016-07-09T09:15:34 < boB_K7IQ> edward tweezerhands 2016-07-09T09:32:38 < emeb_mac> edward needlenoseplierhands 2016-07-09T09:38:43 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-09T09:52:42 < boB_K7IQ> oshix, you're not from Washington state are you ? 2016-07-09T09:53:03 < boB_K7IQ> Ah. OK. I'm in everett, wa 2016-07-09T09:53:28 < boB_K7IQ> yes, very handy living on the line 2016-07-09T09:53:38 < boB_K7IQ> I like Portland 2016-07-09T09:53:48 < boB_K7IQ> Oregon in general actually 2016-07-09T09:54:09 < boB_K7IQ> except for not being able to pump my own gas 2016-07-09T09:54:49 < boB_K7IQ> haha yea 2016-07-09T10:20:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T10:21:17 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T10:30:08 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-09T10:52:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T10:59:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-09T10:59:47 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T11:00:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T11:04:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T11:25:15 < Steffanx> nope, yours. 2016-07-09T11:26:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T11:33:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-09T11:33:51 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-09T11:38:32 < karlp> scrts: the psoc 4200 sticks have a usb2any device as part of the dev board, and includes demos and softwares for i2c/spi 2016-07-09T12:05:34 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28wb0civp59m3l8.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-09T12:24:22 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T12:25:09 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-09T12:25:10 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-07-09T12:28:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.237.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T12:40:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-09T12:52:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T12:54:45 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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2016-07-09T16:46:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T16:58:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-09T17:13:33 < Steffanx> I also should get 10GbE. 1 is too slow. 2016-07-09T17:29:18 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-09T17:29:38 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T17:30:17 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-09T17:34:41 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T17:42:54 < Steffanx> whats pumping? 2016-07-09T17:44:07 < emeb_mac> gas? 2016-07-09T17:47:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-09T17:50:05 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T17:57:49 < emeb_mac> R2COM: hooking a fast ADC up to a cheap lattice FPGA 2016-07-09T17:58:19 < emeb_mac> faster than the SAR ADC on an STM32 2016-07-09T17:58:26 < emeb_mac> 40MSPS 2016-07-09T17:59:06 < emeb_mac> their own "icecube2" toolchain 2016-07-09T17:59:37 < emeb_mac> basically synopsys synplicity with proprietary P&R 2016-07-09T17:59:51 < emeb_mac> if you want sim you have to get it elsewhere 2016-07-09T18:00:12 < emeb_mac> they provide Modelsim models for their ip cores 2016-07-09T18:00:28 < emeb_mac> but if you're not using their ip cores then you can use anything 2016-07-09T18:00:36 < emeb_mac> I do have modelsim 2016-07-09T18:00:55 < emeb_mac> it's not cheap 2016-07-09T18:01:13 < emeb_mac> I have an old license from a previous job - was about $10k back then 2016-07-09T18:01:36 < emeb_mac> Altera has a free version 2016-07-09T18:01:45 < emeb_mac> you can use it for generic stuff 2016-07-09T18:02:04 < emeb_mac> yep 2016-07-09T18:02:09 < emeb_mac> but you can do a lot with that 2016-07-09T18:02:40 < emeb_mac> and Xilinx's simulator is weird 2016-07-09T18:03:24 < emeb_mac> no 2016-07-09T18:03:28 < emeb_mac> any good? 2016-07-09T18:04:09 < emeb_mac> nice 2016-07-09T18:05:06 < emeb_mac> I also have a lot of xilinx stuff 2016-07-09T18:05:23 < emeb_mac> but they seem to be de-emphasizing their low-end stuff 2016-07-09T18:05:27 < emeb_mac> raising prices 2016-07-09T18:05:47 < emeb_mac> funneling people away from Spartan towards Kintex etc 2016-07-09T18:06:02 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T18:06:33 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-09T18:06:35 < emeb_mac> well, no free sim for lattice 2016-07-09T18:06:51 < emeb_mac> but their models are only modelsim 2016-07-09T18:06:58 < emeb_mac> so you're stuck 2016-07-09T18:07:22 < emeb_mac> OTOH, there is that FOSS toolchain for Lattice 2016-07-09T18:07:30 < emeb_mac> I've tried it - it works 2016-07-09T18:07:37 < emeb_mac> Free Open Source Software 2016-07-09T18:07:44 < emeb_mac> reverse engineered 2016-07-09T18:07:55 < emeb_mac> does synthesis & place/route 2016-07-09T18:08:24 < emeb_mac> nah 2016-07-09T18:08:26 < emeb_mac> http://www.clifford.at/icestorm/ 2016-07-09T18:08:37 < emeb_mac> works out of the box 2016-07-09T18:08:48 < emeb_mac> for all the ice40 hx parts 2016-07-09T18:09:55 < emeb_mac> basically they clean-roomed the bitstream format 2016-07-09T18:10:39 < emeb_mac> no idea if it gives optimum synthesis results tho 2016-07-09T18:10:58 < emeb_mac> dunno about lawsuits 2016-07-09T18:11:13 < emeb_mac> probably not an issue since lattice gives away the toolchain 2016-07-09T18:11:43 < emeb_mac> yeah - uses icarus verilog 2016-07-09T18:12:10 < emeb_mac> nah - simple 2016-07-09T18:12:16 < emeb_mac> icarus is very easy to use 2016-07-09T18:12:24 < emeb_mac> works with gtkwave for viewing 2016-07-09T18:12:48 < emeb_mac> don't know about verilator 2016-07-09T18:13:40 < emeb_mac> yeah 2016-07-09T18:28:30 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T18:29:03 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-09T18:30:10 < englishman> emeb_mac: wasnt xilinx bought by intel 2016-07-09T18:30:15 < englishman> so they can pwn the server market or something 2016-07-09T18:30:25 < englishman> i figure low end will go to someone else 2016-07-09T18:30:28 < englishman> like lattice 2016-07-09T18:31:12 < englishman> ah altera 2016-07-09T18:31:47 < englishman> what else comes in <$2 at digikey 2016-07-09T18:31:52 < englishman> even psoc is higher than that? 2016-07-09T18:35:27 < emeb_mac> R2COM: ah - proasic3 2016-07-09T18:35:50 < emeb_mac> remeber looking at some of that years ago when we had to do some stuff for high-temp 2016-07-09T18:36:26 < emeb_mac> seems OK 2016-07-09T18:36:32 < emeb_mac> what packages? 2016-07-09T18:37:48 < emeb_mac> some of those igloo parts have lots of goodies 2016-07-09T18:38:18 < emeb_mac> that's the thing I don't like about the low-end lattice stuff I'm using now - only 4 16x16 MACs on this chip 2016-07-09T18:39:00 < emeb_mac> nice 2016-07-09T18:39:12 < emeb_mac> but I don't do bga for personal stuff 2016-07-09T18:39:22 < englishman> ah microsemi = actel 2016-07-09T18:40:31 < emeb_mac> right - proasic 2016-07-09T18:40:47 < emeb_mac> looks like they have a tqfp144 though 2016-07-09T18:44:06 < emeb_mac> seems so 2016-07-09T18:46:46 < emeb_mac> get a gold license - seems simple 2016-07-09T18:49:26 < emeb_mac> right 2016-07-09T18:49:43 < emeb_mac> too bad none of the big distys stock them 2016-07-09T18:50:41 < emeb_mac> right 2016-07-09T18:50:50 < emeb_mac> no stock 2016-07-09T18:51:35 < emeb_mac> right - but not the 005 part 2016-07-09T18:53:08 < emeb_mac> ah - better 2016-07-09T18:54:06 < emeb_mac> 0.8mm pitch 400 bga might be doable with your pro layout tools 2016-07-09T18:54:43 < emeb_mac> suspect so 2016-07-09T18:54:48 < emeb_mac> encrypted bitstream 2016-07-09T18:54:57 < emeb_mac> with key stored in NV on device 2016-07-09T18:55:11 < zyp> ReadError, both me and dongs 2016-07-09T18:55:25 < ReadError> which did you guys end up with? 2016-07-09T19:01:17 < emeb_mac> yeah - 12k would be better 2016-07-09T19:01:36 < emeb_mac> so much I/O and only 6k is stupid 2016-07-09T19:04:56 < emeb_mac> ah cool - that one comes in a tq144 too 2016-07-09T19:05:44 < emeb_mac> $35 2016-07-09T19:08:46 < emeb_mac> R2COM: nice parts - too bad no on-chip USB 2016-07-09T19:09:04 < emeb_mac> derp 2016-07-09T19:09:05 < emeb_mac> hs 2016-07-09T19:09:20 < emeb_mac> good 2016-07-09T19:09:50 < emeb_mac> 256kB flash too 2016-07-09T19:10:10 < emeb_mac> yeah - but it's everywhere and easy 2016-07-09T19:10:27 < emeb_mac> good for control & updates 2016-07-09T19:11:19 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-07-09T19:11:44 < emeb_mac> my stuff isn't as pro as yours 2016-07-09T19:11:52 < emeb_mac> don't need that kind of bandwidth 2016-07-09T19:15:04 < Lux> it's just the drivers that are shit then 2016-07-09T19:15:42 < Lux> that doesn't really have to do much with usb 2016-07-09T19:16:20 < Lux> they can still mess up the protocol etc 2016-07-09T19:16:47 < Lux> right, i just experienced stuff like that the other day 2016-07-09T19:17:06 < Lux> usb device crashes on my machine and the company i got it from cant reproduce it :/ 2016-07-09T19:18:13 < Lux> but i still blame them for writing shitty software 2016-07-09T19:27:11 < emeb_mac> R2COM: that m2s010 looks like it's roughly equivalent to a spartan 6 lx9 + stm32f1xx on a single chip 2016-07-09T19:27:30 < emeb_mac> but costs a bit more than both combined 2016-07-09T19:35:57 < zyp> yeah, smartfusion stuff looked kinda expensive when I looked at it 2016-07-09T19:36:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-09T19:42:03 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T19:52:59 < zyp> only if you're size limited 2016-07-09T19:53:06 < zyp> pcb area is dirt cheap 2016-07-09T19:53:45 < zyp> I mean, the price difference between smartfusion and discrete mcu and fpga would easily pay for an entire pcb in volume 2016-07-09T20:07:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T20:09:03 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2016-07-09T20:17:21 < zyp> I'm not using linux desktop 2016-07-09T20:17:38 < zyp> shit that actually works 2016-07-09T20:17:58 < zyp> haha, relax, I jest 2016-07-09T20:17:59 < Steffanx> hackintosh \o/ 2016-07-09T20:18:08 < zyp> yeah, I run OS X 2016-07-09T20:18:27 < zyp> no 2016-07-09T20:18:55 < zyp> officially yes, in practice no 2016-07-09T20:19:10 < BrainDamage> if the hw is sufficiently similar, it'll work 2016-07-09T20:19:11 < Steffanx> You also have some 10GbE/sfp card in your hackintosh machine zyp? Was it hard to find some compatible one? 2016-07-09T20:19:17 < BrainDamage> that's what hackintosh is about 2016-07-09T20:19:22 < BrainDamage> google that word 2016-07-09T20:19:38 < zyp> Steffanx, works fine 2016-07-09T20:19:49 < zyp> myricom got OS X drivers, I checked that before buying it 2016-07-09T20:20:37 < Steffanx> lol "sufficiently", BrainDamage. Nowadays it's probably close to anything that is intel and nvidia. 2016-07-09T20:20:52 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-09T20:21:16 < Steffanx> at least, when you use components from mainstream manufacturers 2016-07-09T20:21:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-09T20:21:46 < Steffanx> it can take a while to get in running. 2016-07-09T20:21:52 < zyp> well 2016-07-09T20:22:01 < zyp> I had an old 2008 iMac 2016-07-09T20:22:07 < zyp> that was my old workstation 2016-07-09T20:22:23 < zyp> in 2012 I figured I wanted something newer 2016-07-09T20:22:36 < zyp> so I considered buying a 2012 iMac 2016-07-09T20:23:36 < zyp> and then I checked what I would get if I used the same money to assemble one myself 2016-07-09T20:23:47 < zyp> yes 2016-07-09T20:24:00 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T20:24:30 < zyp> too expensive 2016-07-09T20:24:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-09T20:25:14 < Steffanx> Also it looks like a trashbin 2016-07-09T20:25:25 < zyp> I ended up spending the same amount of money as an imac, but got a lot more performance out of it 2016-07-09T20:25:38 < zyp> R2COM, see, that's my point 2016-07-09T20:26:20 < zyp> maybe 2016-07-09T20:26:43 < zyp> but judging after four years of use, it's still less of a hassle than dealing with linux desktop environments 2016-07-09T20:26:47 < zyp> in my opinion, of course 2016-07-09T20:26:50 < zyp> YMMV 2016-07-09T20:27:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T20:27:35 < zyp> if I were to run desktop linux today, I'd give debian a shot 2016-07-09T20:27:42 < Steffanx> Mine does not vary, i even went for skylake which wasn't officially supported back them. It runs without issues. 2016-07-09T20:28:15 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah, I got mine before ivy bridge were officially supported 2016-07-09T20:28:31 < Steffanx> Updating hackintosh by using the official updates isn't without risks either. I haven't got any trouble with it, but it certainly can break things. 2016-07-09T20:35:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T20:37:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T20:43:28 < Rob235> <3 mbp 2016-07-09T20:44:08 < Steffanx> that i have too, but hardly use it :P 2016-07-09T20:44:29 < Rob235> aside from my gaming htpc its all I use 2016-07-09T20:45:02 < Rob235> usb confuses me, where can I learn about it? 2016-07-09T20:45:53 < Steffanx> http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb1.shtml 2016-07-09T20:46:23 < Rob235> if I have a device with a usb port to connect to your computer and it has serial capability does it only work if it's powered by something like a pc? or can it get power through the device it's on? 2016-07-09T20:46:57 < Rob235> I want to hook the usp port to a stm32 device to communicate with it 2016-07-09T20:47:02 < Rob235> usb* 2016-07-09T20:47:11 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-09T20:47:50 < Steffanx> http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb2.shtml#PowerVbus is what you need i guess 2016-07-09T20:47:58 < Rob235> thanks i'll check it out 2016-07-09T20:57:01 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-09T21:15:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T21:15:39 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-09T21:16:08 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-09T21:26:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T21:26:40 < Rob235> what is wrong with my shitty connection 2016-07-09T21:30:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-09T21:38:28 < Steffanx> You expect an answer from us/me or .. Rob235? 2016-07-09T21:40:23 < Rob235> rhetorical... just voicing my annoyance sorry 2016-07-09T21:43:42 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-09T21:48:18 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T21:52:59 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-09T21:53:26 < zyp> 19:46:57 < Rob235> I want to hook the usp port to a stm32 device to communicate with it 2016-07-09T21:53:30 < zyp> oh, he left 2016-07-09T21:53:59 < zyp> but I was going to say, a device can't talk to another device, only hosts talk to devices 2016-07-09T22:04:58 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T22:09:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T22:11:16 < Steffanx> He will figure that out after he read the entire website i hope :P 2016-07-09T22:15:44 < Rob235> yea I know I have a lot to learn before I can do anything with it 2016-07-09T22:16:45 < Rob235> but I shouldn't be starting a new project right now anyway with my first project unfinished 2016-07-09T22:18:19 < Steffanx> did mr Rob235 read the logs? 2016-07-09T22:18:23 < Rob235> yup 2016-07-09T22:19:10 < Rob235> I have 3-4 projects I want to do and so little time... 2016-07-09T22:19:51 < Steffanx> skip all the things that involves vaping. 2016-07-09T22:20:43 < Rob235> why do you even care, I get shit for vaping even though I'm not even talking about it 2016-07-09T22:21:34 < Steffanx> hah, so serious mr Rob235 :P 2016-07-09T22:21:53 < Rob235> haha I guess yesterday just put me off, I just don't get it :P 2016-07-09T22:22:23 < Rob235> but whatever, yea the usb issue was related to the vaping project 2016-07-09T22:22:59 < Steffanx> i don't give a damn about the vaping, it just funny to mock you with it 2016-07-09T22:23:04 < Steffanx> *its 2016-07-09T22:23:15 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T22:23:19 < Rob235> I'm going to stop giving a shit then and then you will get bored :) 2016-07-09T22:23:34 < Rob235> I just opened my drone project up for the first time in a long while, lets see where I left off 2016-07-09T22:24:04 < Rob235> ahh right, pid 2016-07-09T22:28:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-09T22:29:23 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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2016-07-10T01:41:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-10T01:41:53 < Rob235> they are still making pokemon games? 2016-07-10T01:42:30 < Steffanx> Yes, but this is different, this is AR Rob235. 2016-07-10T01:42:45 < Steffanx> You actually have to go outside. 2016-07-10T01:42:55 < Rob235> AR? 2016-07-10T01:43:48 < Steffanx> augmented reality 2016-07-10T01:43:50 < karlp> Steffanx: wouldn't say hooked. 2016-07-10T01:43:52 < Rob235> ahhh 2016-07-10T01:44:08 < karlp> there's no in game instructions, and I found it rather awkward to work out what to do, but I'd never played one before anyway. 2016-07-10T01:44:30 < karlp> but, caught a pokemen in the garden, but I'm home alone with the daughter, so can't walk around the neighbourhood for the next steps :) 2016-07-10T01:45:21 < Steffanx> How could you have missed this game Rob235? 2016-07-10T01:46:03 < Steffanx> Never been a fan of pokemon, so not going to play 2016-07-10T01:46:03 < Rob235> not really into gaming and haven't done anything with pokemon since the original red/blue 2016-07-10T01:46:37 < Steffanx> but it has been over the news everywhere 2016-07-10T01:46:53 < Steffanx> *all over 2016-07-10T01:47:06 < Rob235> ohhh, inside looks like a good game, loved limbo 2016-07-10T01:48:30 < karlp> heh,m they make stm32f2 nucleo boards. 2016-07-10T01:49:05 < karlp> you can even get the f2 with ethernet and user usb "nucleo 144" style http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/product-evaluation-tools/mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-nucleo/nucleo-f207zg.html 2016-07-10T01:50:19 < Rob235> $20 looks like I'm buying a new game 2016-07-10T01:50:40 < kakimir> hello guise 2016-07-10T02:00:48 < Rob235> whats up 2016-07-10T02:01:18 < kakimir> it's good 2016-07-10T02:03:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-10T02:03:45 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKOC04MzFSSC1xVXc/view?usp=sharing progress of day 2016-07-10T02:05:05 < Rob235> ? no 2016-07-10T02:13:49 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-10T02:13:58 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T02:15:30 < kakimir> where is Laurenceb? this channel needs his humour 2016-07-10T02:16:21 < Rob235> Want me to go grab some crickets? 2016-07-10T02:20:08 < kakimir> I don't understand 2016-07-10T02:20:48 < Rob235> someone tells a joke and you hear crickets because it's not funny and no one is laughing. like the one I just told :) 2016-07-10T02:29:24 < kakimir> you need to just do some "tired laughter" and end it in sigh 2016-07-10T02:39:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:596a:28c9:f808:5f8b] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-10T03:02:32 < Rob235> haha 2016-07-10T03:02:36 * karlp has missed you too artoocommie 2016-07-10T03:08:41 < kakimir> no 2016-07-10T03:10:53 < kakimir> I don't know what you mean by demanding exactly 2016-07-10T03:11:14 < kakimir> demanding like princess way? 2016-07-10T03:14:03 < kakimir> R2COM: you mean typical wealth and status thing? 2016-07-10T03:15:57 < kakimir> some hit back and not with open fist 2016-07-10T03:18:15 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T03:20:35 < kakimir> are you turning into edgylord ohsix ? 2016-07-10T03:27:40 < kakimir> I think he means something like russian princess girls that require high level of resources and support 2016-07-10T03:33:36 < kakimir> not a generalization but that specific stereotype is there somewhere 2016-07-10T03:35:43 < kakimir> it doesn't get better 2016-07-10T03:38:58 < ReadError> 10G ethernet shit is still pretty $$$$ 2016-07-10T03:40:42 < kakimir> :D 2016-07-10T03:42:10 < ReadError> yea, then a switch that can even do 10Gbps sustained is $$$ 2016-07-10T03:42:16 < ReadError> that 8port wont do 10G tho 2016-07-10T03:42:22 < ReadError> i doubt it anyways 2016-07-10T03:43:15 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ELW0QM4 2016-07-10T03:43:36 < zyp> used 10gbase-sr shit is fairly cheap 2016-07-10T03:44:06 < ReadError> yea but optics ;( 2016-07-10T03:44:39 < ReadError> dealing with transceivers getting dirty 2016-07-10T03:46:32 < ReadError> guess 10GB will go on hold for a bit 2016-07-10T04:01:17 < ReadError> yea i can do link agg now 2016-07-10T04:06:34 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-10T04:09:00 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T04:24:11 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T04:24:48 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-10T04:24:56 < emeb_mac> man crush? :) 2016-07-10T04:32:51 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-10T04:42:51 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-10T04:54:30 < ReadError> well arent you super gay 2016-07-10T04:55:35 < Rob235> how old are you R2COM? 2016-07-10T04:57:21 < Rob235> really? 2016-07-10T04:57:31 < Rob235> well that explains a lot 2016-07-10T05:02:27 < Rob235> I rest my case 2016-07-10T05:03:04 < ReadError> http://www.ovirt.org/images/wiki/New_Virtual_Machine_Clone_Allocation.png 2016-07-10T05:03:16 < ReadError> this is why i cant take opensores virtualization shit seriously 2016-07-10T05:04:08 < ReadError> http://www.ovirt.org/images/wiki/Add_Virtual_Disk.png 2016-07-10T05:04:18 < ReadError> how many different font sizes and styles jesus fuck 2016-07-10T05:04:51 < ReadError> idk 2016-07-10T05:10:28 < Lux> opensores -> only cli usable ? 2016-07-10T05:10:42 < Lux> https://virt-manager.org/ 2016-07-10T05:11:18 < Lux> that stuff looks a bit better, but it's just some desktop ui 2016-07-10T05:18:23 < ReadError> Lux redhat links to this 2016-07-10T05:18:31 < ReadError> embarrassing 2016-07-10T05:18:39 < ReadError> i hope they atleast made a better gui 2016-07-10T05:21:58 < Lux> ya, i was surprised too when i saw that 2016-07-10T05:51:43 < ReadError> i know it can all be done over cli 2016-07-10T05:52:02 < ReadError> but still that GUI is just horrible for something that has $$ behind it 2016-07-10T06:01:07 < Rob235> To do list: http://pastebin.com/Lr3vr563 2016-07-10T06:03:22 < Rob235> I think the list was my final contribution of the night, start fresh tomorrow 2016-07-10T06:10:33 < ReadError> dabtime 2016-07-10T06:12:19 < ReadError> lil greencrack 2016-07-10T06:14:25 < Rob235> heh beat you to it 2016-07-10T06:16:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8502:5430:1846:d5f9:8b45:bc31] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T06:19:20 < Rob235> no one cares 2016-07-10T06:21:18 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-10T06:22:25 < Rob235> hmm, brain is still racing with drone stuff, maybe I should keep working 2016-07-10T06:40:15 < Rob235> kief? 2016-07-10T06:40:50 < ReadError> still smoking flowers like a pleb ??? 2016-07-10T06:41:04 < Rob235> I got my first true shatter recently 2016-07-10T06:41:20 < Rob235> hard to work with 2016-07-10T06:41:22 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-10T06:41:34 < ReadError> oh? 2016-07-10T06:41:48 < ReadError> like too brittle ? 2016-07-10T06:41:53 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-10T06:42:00 < Rob235> hard to get how much you want on the dab tool 2016-07-10T06:43:35 < Rob235> i always made my own but never got close to shatter 2016-07-10T06:43:38 < Rob235> decided to buy some 2016-07-10T06:43:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T06:44:44 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T06:48:01 < ReadError> Rob235 https://www.vapes.com/products/yocan-exgo-w4-atomizer-for-wax-concentrates 2016-07-10T06:49:18 < Rob235> that what you use ReadError ? 2016-07-10T06:49:28 < ReadError> i got one 2016-07-10T06:49:33 < Rob235> how is it 2016-07-10T06:49:44 < ReadError> works good, run a low wattage 2016-07-10T06:49:55 < ReadError> just throw some in and hit the button, works 2016-07-10T06:50:39 < Rob235> might check it out 2016-07-10T06:52:43 < ReadError> https://www.vapes.com/products/yocan-beta-portable-e-nail-mod-attachment 2016-07-10T06:52:44 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-10T06:54:41 < ReadError> not now 2016-07-10T07:00:16 < Rob235> really? 2016-07-10T07:00:38 < Rob235> I have one more batch of my juice with a tiny bit of nicotine and then I'll be nicotine free 2016-07-10T07:07:26 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-10T07:08:32 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/LdXgmY1 2016-07-10T07:13:15 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/vIqjydL 2016-07-10T07:30:25 < anton02_> is there a crack for keil. my program has grown too big 2016-07-10T07:31:54 < Rob235> I'm using coocox coide, it's pretty shitty but doesn't have a size limit 2016-07-10T07:33:12 < anton02_> nice 2016-07-10T07:40:17 < Chris_M> flyback: very very cool 2016-07-10T07:47:28 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T07:50:33 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-10T07:56:36 < anton02_> ohsix: oh okay 2016-07-10T07:57:07 < ReadError> but keil is a pretty shitty IDE 2016-07-10T07:57:14 < ReadError> so why would you want to do that lol 2016-07-10T07:58:14 < anton02_> because example files that ST give are provided as keil projects 2016-07-10T07:59:22 < anton02_> R2COM: dont have spare 10k atm 2016-07-10T07:59:58 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: gxti, Rob235, akaWolf, aandrew, brianx, dobson, Mustafa, inca, Nutter, gjm, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2016-07-10T08:01:29 < anton02_> those suites are overpriced because people are expected to claim it as a tax deduction. so if you aren't using it for commercial purposes and doing that then youd be stupid to use pocket money to buy it 2016-07-10T08:02:48 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/0t7502mr638x.jpg 2016-07-10T08:04:06 < upgrdman> wtf is yiwu 2016-07-10T08:04:18 < anton02_> australia so no 2016-07-10T08:04:44 < anton02_> sweden allows this and its the first world 2016-07-10T08:08:03 < upgrdman> they in shanghai? 2016-07-10T08:08:30 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/11iEGAG.gifv 2016-07-10T08:10:59 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/iGVBh9v.gifv 2016-07-10T08:12:46 < upgrdman> TIL r2com is familiar with my dick 2016-07-10T08:13:00 < upgrdman> ohsix, ya fuck that 2016-07-10T08:16:43 < upgrdman> still, fukit 2016-07-10T08:17:48 < upgrdman> lolol, the ending http://i.imgur.com/xTpVu3H.gifv 2016-07-10T08:18:55 < upgrdman> not if your surrounded by the chinese 2016-07-10T08:19:02 < upgrdman> fucking cn culture.... 2016-07-10T08:19:37 < ReadError> ordered a new server case 2016-07-10T08:19:43 < ReadError> dis one holds 24 drives 2016-07-10T08:19:46 < ReadError> so thats cool 2016-07-10T08:20:10 < ReadError> fill it with 2tb until 4tb drop enuff 2016-07-10T08:21:46 < upgrdman> ohsix, theres just no respect for personal space, and poor people act like poor people. also, cn doesnt really care about personal comfort. fuck climate control, fuckmenough seats so you dont have to stand for an hour 2016-07-10T08:23:14 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/aieHupX.gifv 2016-07-10T08:24:34 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/fvWyGk2.gifv 2016-07-10T08:25:08 < upgrdman> its not 2016-07-10T08:25:13 < upgrdman> but still 2016-07-10T08:25:28 < upgrdman> i should have said asian cu'ture or osmehsit 2016-07-10T08:26:20 < anton02_> upgrdman: japan seems to be slightly better than other asians for some reason 2016-07-10T08:26:31 < anton02_> they're closer to white society 2016-07-10T08:27:12 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-10T08:27:27 < upgrdman> but they still have shit asia weather 2016-07-10T08:27:53 < anton02_> asia weather is better than england weather 2016-07-10T08:31:03 < upgrdman> nothing 2016-07-10T09:23:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-10T09:32:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.94] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T09:39:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-10T09:49:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-10T09:53:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T10:09:51 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T10:13:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 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Sunday it is. 2016-07-10T13:34:05 < mitrax_> hi there 2016-07-10T13:35:24 < mitrax_> crt: what's new? 2016-07-10T13:35:32 < Steffanx> Every minute is, mitrax_ 2016-07-10T13:36:04 < mitrax_> oh about that 2016-07-10T13:39:44 < Steffanx> poor crt. 2016-07-10T13:42:08 < mitrax_> crt: my sister got an old amp that's like 25 years old, the volume pot is faulty (bad contact), do you have any trick to restore the carbon layer? electronic contact cleaner helps but only temporarily 2016-07-10T13:42:59 < mitrax_> crt: i would but it's a motorized shit that turns 2016-07-10T13:45:38 < mitrax_> it's some Onkyo from 1989 or so, nothing special that is worth the trouble, i'll tell her to throw it away :p 2016-07-10T13:48:43 < mitrax_> ahaha 2016-07-10T13:48:48 < mitrax_> yeah good idea 2016-07-10T13:51:08 < kakimir> so 1TB laptop disks are prone to fail? 2016-07-10T13:51:27 < kakimir> so I should get 750GB instead? 2016-07-10T13:51:45 < kakimir> and not certainly bigger 2016-07-10T13:51:50 < Steffanx> uh what kakimir? Context/source/whatever? 2016-07-10T13:52:40 < kakimir> what dongs says usually 2016-07-10T13:52:48 < mitrax_> kakimir: check the blackblaze review from 2015 2016-07-10T13:53:02 < Steffanx> Yes, everything what he says is true kakimir. blackblaze doesn't do 2.5" much, do they mitrax_? 2016-07-10T13:53:21 < kakimir> I just need the shit 2016-07-10T13:53:36 < kakimir> that holds and doesn't cost too much 2016-07-10T13:53:45 < kakimir> WD blue? 2016-07-10T13:53:56 < mitrax_> Steffanx: oops sorry i read "desktop" instead of laptop 2016-07-10T13:54:01 < kakimir> storage disk 2016-07-10T13:54:08 < Steffanx> 2.5" kakimir? 2016-07-10T13:54:19 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-10T13:54:26 < kakimir> mini itx machine 2016-07-10T13:55:05 < Steffanx> and cost more then he is willing to spend. 2016-07-10T13:55:06 < mitrax_> ohsix: i opened the thing a long time ago, i don't remember but yeah might be a normal pot inside 2016-07-10T13:55:59 < Steffanx> EU prices are not comparable to us prices when it comes to computer parts. 2016-07-10T13:56:12 < kakimir> add like 75% 2016-07-10T13:56:23 < kakimir> to price and get funland prices 2016-07-10T13:56:49 < Steffanx> kakimir, anyway. just look for some random one and do some review reading. 2016-07-10T13:57:32 < kakimir> I don't care 2016-07-10T13:57:37 < kakimir> to go 2016-07-10T13:58:07 < Steffanx> if you dont care then just buy a random one, and make sure you do backups 2016-07-10T13:59:46 < ReadError> Steffanx 2.5 doesnt have the density yet 2016-07-10T14:00:03 < ReadError> backblaze is all about that 2016-07-10T14:02:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.244.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T14:02:31 < kakimir> ssd as storage disk.. 2016-07-10T14:02:40 < kakimir> what are you thinkin 2016-07-10T14:02:44 < Steffanx> Why not? 2016-07-10T14:03:02 < Steffanx> You only want < 1 TB for a "storage disk" 2016-07-10T14:03:28 < kakimir> get cheap one and it goes after 3years of use without leaving any data to access 2016-07-10T14:03:35 < kakimir> just blank 2016-07-10T14:04:22 < kakimir> Steffanx: this disc is für business stuff and photos.. not anime collection 2016-07-10T14:05:21 < kakimir> take 1TB of photos that are good every single shot? 2016-07-10T14:05:36 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-10T14:05:36 < kakimir> you need to be professional photographer 2016-07-10T14:05:57 < Steffanx> 4x6 at least. 2016-07-10T14:06:43 < Steffanx> Does it really have to be 2.5" kakimir? 2TB 3.5" is like dirt arse cheap 2016-07-10T14:07:31 < dongs> fucking garbage 2016-07-10T14:07:37 < kakimir> Steffanx: 3.5" is like size of this box 2016-07-10T14:07:43 < kakimir> that whole computers is in 2016-07-10T14:07:43 < dongs> so the toshiba shit doesnt support usb3.1 alternate mode 2016-07-10T14:07:47 < dongs> no displayport4me 2016-07-10T14:07:55 < zyp> aww 2016-07-10T14:07:58 < dongs> fucking scammed 2016-07-10T14:08:06 < kakimir> there is no cubic inch space left inside Steffanx 2016-07-10T14:08:16 < dongs> it should be fucking illegal to stick a 3.1 label on shit that doesnt 2016-07-10T14:08:18 < dongs> FUCK ASSMEDIA; ASSMEDIA SUX; ASSMEDIA IS DYING; ASSMEDIA IS DEAD TO ME; ASSMEDIA HIT WTC 2016-07-10T14:08:22 < Steffanx> External usb 3.0 inch disk it is then kakimir :P 2016-07-10T14:08:44 < Steffanx> usb3.1 alternat mode, what's that supposed to be? 2016-07-10T14:08:51 < Steffanx> e 2016-07-10T14:08:51 < dongs> displayport 2016-07-10T14:08:59 < Steffanx> never heard of that 2016-07-10T14:09:03 < dongs> you wont 2016-07-10T14:09:09 < ReadError> i wouldnt use ssd as storage 2016-07-10T14:09:13 < ReadError> its not reliable long term 2016-07-10T14:09:34 < Steffanx> I wont because it sucks arse dongs? 2016-07-10T14:09:43 < ReadError> ohsix data goes bad if you dont power it for a certain period of time 2016-07-10T14:09:51 < zyp> 1TB of photos isn't that much really, if you are into photo shit and keep the raws for everything 2016-07-10T14:10:04 < dongs> 1tb of cp 2016-07-10T14:10:14 < ReadError> also:::::: backups 2016-07-10T14:10:22 < ReadError> spend the few dollars on crashplan 2016-07-10T14:10:34 < zyp> I've got a couple hundred gigs of photos, and I don't photo much 2016-07-10T14:10:37 < ReadError> ohsix bits flip 2016-07-10T14:11:14 < zyp> and video add up even faster 2016-07-10T14:11:34 < zyp> play around with a gopro for a day and you'll have 100GB easily 2016-07-10T14:12:30 < ReadError> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9248/2.PNG 2016-07-10T14:12:34 < ReadError> thats the requirement 2016-07-10T14:12:37 < dongs> https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0353/05/1412489731895.gif 2016-07-10T14:12:42 < kakimir> thanks guise. me gone> 2016-07-10T14:13:08 < Steffanx> Took you a while to find that. 2016-07-10T14:13:36 < dongs> me? 2016-07-10T14:13:49 < dongs> just a few pages down gis for 'critical autism levels 2016-07-10T14:14:31 < ReadError> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the-truth-about-ssd-data-retention 2016-07-10T14:14:47 < Steffanx> Is that usb-c going to be big any time soon anyway, dongs? 2016-07-10T14:15:40 < dongs> shitgate = nonstarter 2016-07-10T14:16:26 < ReadError> thats JEDEC specs 2016-07-10T14:16:37 < ReadError> doesnt matter what kind of drive it is 2016-07-10T14:16:47 < ReadError> enterprise or consumer, its one of those 2016-07-10T14:25:42 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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2016-07-10T17:15:04 < Laurenceb__> top trollin 2016-07-10T17:15:40 < Steffanx> stop being an arsehole. 2016-07-10T17:23:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T17:35:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T17:43:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T17:53:50 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@dslb-188-103-225-224.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T17:53:59 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@dslb-188-103-225-224.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-10T17:53:59 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T17:59:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-10T18:01:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.92] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T18:11:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-10T18:13:21 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T18:13:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-10T18:24:39 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-10T18:32:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-10T18:56:52 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/NEET/comments/2amfgn/how_do_i_earn_them_autism_bux/?st=iqgs8oi9&sh=11bdcbdc 2016-07-10T19:16:04 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-10T19:19:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.83] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T19:19:33 < Laurenceb__> https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9359673&cid=52481769 2016-07-10T19:24:08 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-10T19:24:08 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T19:39:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-10T19:42:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T19:53:44 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T20:00:14 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T20:16:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T20:48:21 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T20:49:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-10T20:53:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8502:5430:89d1:d05b:4635:8e61] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-10T20:57:17 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-10T21:05:07 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T21:08:04 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-10T21:08:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T21:20:39 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T21:20:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-10T21:28:54 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-10T21:45:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T21:55:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-10T22:23:13 < Cyric_> http://qz.com/726338/the-code-that-took-america-to-the-moon-was-just-published-to-github-and-its-like-a-1960s-time-capsule/?utm_source=qzfb 2016-07-10T22:24:11 < Cyric_> anyone interested on going on the moon? 2016-07-10T22:27:22 < Steffanx> https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/issues/67 .. 1 minute ago 2016-07-10T22:27:29 < Steffanx> must be dongs, because python fan 2016-07-10T22:27:38 < Steffanx> and rpi ofcourse 2016-07-10T22:49:11 < Cyric_> lol 2016-07-10T22:56:10 < Rob235> enough school work... time to drone, what are you guys up to 2016-07-10T23:01:50 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T23:05:28 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T23:06:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T23:14:54 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKX3pyQVphTjdIVFk/view?usp=sharing 2016-07-10T23:14:58 < kakimir> today 2016-07-10T23:15:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.244.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T23:15:32 < Rob235> you fly? 2016-07-10T23:15:56 < kakimir> I did 2016-07-10T23:16:01 < kakimir> almost 2 hours 2016-07-10T23:16:06 < Rob235> nice 2016-07-10T23:16:08 < Rob235> sounds like fun 2016-07-10T23:16:09 < kakimir> most of time myself 2016-07-10T23:16:27 < Rob235> I gotta get dishes done before gf gets home though :P brb 2016-07-10T23:18:00 < kakimir> those rain clouds appearing above were nice just below them 2016-07-10T23:18:17 < kakimir> good lift 2016-07-10T23:19:36 < kakimir> little foggy rain cloud = lift just below it 2016-07-10T23:20:15 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-10T23:24:12 < kakimir> first big lifts today just park the plane in it and see altimeter go up 2016-07-10T23:25:12 < kakimir> totally effortless, just keep banking and sustain rigth speed 2016-07-10T23:28:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T23:28:35 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775bea.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-10T23:32:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-10T23:38:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-10T23:39:31 < Rob235> you go with some random pilot or a friend/family member? 2016-07-10T23:40:50 < englishman> kakimir: congrats 2016-07-10T23:41:37 < kakimir> Rob235: random as flight teachers are 2016-07-10T23:41:48 < Rob235> ahh lessons, thats cool --- Day changed Mon Jul 11 2016 2016-07-11T00:02:55 -!- mra90 [~Martin@212.87.229.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T00:18:36 < kakimir> I think there is some statistical posibility to flight teacher to be middle aged dude 2016-07-11T00:21:26 < Steffanx> single finnish men? 2016-07-11T00:22:24 < Steffanx> what does something like that cost in finnishland kakimir? This 2 hour course/lesson for example? 2016-07-11T00:26:00 < Sync> kakimir: yeah it's fun, fly around until you feel a bump from below and then push and maintain the bank angle 2016-07-11T00:30:59 -!- mattbrej1a [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T00:31:09 -!- mattbrejza [~mattbrejz@kryten.hexoc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-11T00:37:34 < kakimir> do you guys know high side mosfet switch with programable undervoltage level? 2016-07-11T00:42:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50.251.197.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-11T00:46:48 < Rob235> hmm, can't think right now... not sure how I want to handle the x8r receiver sbus info being out of sync or rx in failsafe mode 2016-07-11T00:47:59 < Rob235> out of sync shouldn't be a problem, I can't see it ever being out of sync for long at all... but you never know 2016-07-11T00:48:55 < Rob235> I got an idea 2016-07-11T01:01:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T01:04:22 -!- mattbrej1a is now known as mattbrejza 2016-07-11T01:15:50 < Rob235> whats the correct thing to do if you lose connection with the receiver for too long? just shut everything down and let it crash? or maybe reduce throttle over a few seconds? 2016-07-11T01:16:16 < Rob235> (no hover mode yet) 2016-07-11T01:35:56 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-11T01:40:39 < Laurenceb__> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Space-Raptor-Invasion-Chuck-Tingle-ebook/dp/B00S4B95RQ 2016-07-11T01:50:24 < ReadError> Rob235 do u know what day it is 2016-07-11T01:50:33 < ReadError> National Dab Day 2016-07-11T01:50:46 < Rob235> says who 2016-07-11T01:51:12 < ReadError> http://www.hightimes.com/read/happy-710 2016-07-11T01:51:17 < ReadError> idk bunch of places 2016-07-11T01:51:34 < Rob235> oh right, 710 2016-07-11T01:51:47 < ReadError> OIL 2016-07-11T01:52:44 < ReadError> i just realized it was 710 like 5mins ago 2016-07-11T01:54:10 < Rob235> ahh, didn't realize it was my mom's bday tomorrow 2016-07-11T01:54:18 < ReadError> ^ asshole 2016-07-11T01:54:24 < Rob235> she passed away a few years ago 2016-07-11T01:54:30 < ReadError> o 2016-07-11T01:55:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.244.196] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-11T01:56:45 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775bea.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T01:57:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T02:02:28 < TheSeven> hmmm, PC13 reading about 30-32kOhm to GND on an unpowered STM32F030 isn't quite right, is it? 2016-07-11T02:03:03 < TheSeven> when it's powered up, the internal pull-up can barely raise it to around 2V 2016-07-11T02:03:04 < zyp> why not? 2016-07-11T02:04:14 < zyp> remember the TVS diodes, it's not like pins on an unpowered chip are completely disconnected for everything 2016-07-11T02:04:31 < zyp> I'd expect to measure a fairly low resistance to GND in that case 2016-07-11T02:06:50 < TheSeven> none of the other I/Os measures <10MOhms 2016-07-11T02:07:04 < TheSeven> and the same pin on other chips doesn't either 2016-07-11T02:07:09 < TheSeven> looks like this one is toast :/ 2016-07-11T02:07:16 < TheSeven> not quite sure how I killed it... 2016-07-11T02:07:34 < zyp> overvoltage spike? 2016-07-11T02:07:42 < TheSeven> quite unlikely 2016-07-11T02:07:49 < zyp> those tends to make it fuse short 2016-07-11T02:08:10 < TheSeven> that pin is connected through around 15cm of wire to a little button that pulls it to gnd 2016-07-11T02:08:20 < TheSeven> pulled up through the internal pull-up 2016-07-11T02:08:37 < TheSeven> shouldn't have ever been configured as an output 2016-07-11T02:09:01 < TheSeven> hm, I just noticed that the Vdd pin right next to it is unconnected... 2016-07-11T02:09:41 < TheSeven> didn't seem to affect operation though - this is a low-power thing anyway, the chip draws <1mA total (average, bursts probably around 5-10mA or something) 2016-07-11T02:10:36 < zyp> well, uh 2016-07-11T02:10:47 < zyp> if it's unconnected, it's not decoupled either 2016-07-11T02:11:05 < TheSeven> the board is designed to take an f042, which has a Vbat pin there, so there's a solder bridge to select what it is, and that wasn't closed :/ 2016-07-11T02:11:36 < zyp> are you actually using vbat? 2016-07-11T02:11:54 < zyp> for backup power, I mean 2016-07-11T02:12:31 < zyp> if you're just leaving it unconnected, you might as well feed inn Vdd there 2016-07-11T02:12:52 < TheSeven> that Vdd pin to the other Vdd pins reads >10MOhm on both the broken and fresh chips 2016-07-11T02:13:10 < TheSeven> yes, that's why there's a solder jumper for it 2016-07-11T02:13:17 < zyp> huh? 2016-07-11T02:13:23 < TheSeven> this is sitting on a generic breakout for f030/f042 2016-07-11T02:13:35 < TheSeven> so some applications might need Vbat, this one doesn't 2016-07-11T02:13:47 < zyp> right 2016-07-11T02:13:54 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-11T02:14:03 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T02:16:20 < [7]> huh, what was that 2016-07-11T02:16:22 < [7]> [01:13:23] this is sitting on a generic breakout for f030/f042 2016-07-11T02:16:24 < [7]> [01:13:35] so some applications might need Vbat, this one doesn't 2016-07-11T02:16:35 * [7] wonders if he should attempt to swap the chip (and possibly fry the rest of the board) or just bodge in a stronger pull-up... 2016-07-11T02:16:40 * [7] wonders if he should attempt to swap the chip (and possibly fry the rest of the board) or just bodge in a stronger pull-up... 2016-07-11T02:21:08 < zyp> [7], if this is a generic breakout, why not throw it away and grab another? 2016-07-11T02:27:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b9ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-11T02:33:01 < [7]> because I've already soldered a few things directly onto it 2016-07-11T02:51:54 < anton02> every time i post on /pol/ https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1468194509823.jpg 2016-07-11T02:52:14 < anton02> people respond to me with that 2016-07-11T03:06:13 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-11T03:06:22 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T03:11:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T03:13:39 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-11T03:20:05 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T03:33:10 < Laurenceb__> haha aussie 2016-07-11T04:05:28 < Rob235> is it ok for two c files to include eachother? 2016-07-11T04:07:26 < Rob235> maybe I should just put the 3 pid functions in my state file 2016-07-11T04:08:09 < Rob235> i mean I have the ifndef stuff 2016-07-11T04:08:30 < Rob235> i'll find a better way to do this... 2016-07-11T04:12:36 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T04:18:07 < Rob235> it was just a typedef struct causing problems so I put it somewhere else and its fine 2016-07-11T04:33:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T04:46:55 < TheSeven> went for the bodge resistor (10k) for now, seems to work fine so far - let's see if it fails again 2016-07-11T05:26:25 < scrts> dongs-> what do you use to program GUI for STM32 USB host side @ PC? 2016-07-11T05:26:42 < scrts> can not even understand how to add a fuckin button to the form with visual c++ 2016-07-11T05:26:55 < scrts> was much easier with c++ builder by the time... 2016-07-11T05:31:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-11T05:32:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T05:36:27 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-11T06:04:46 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T06:07:03 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-11T06:12:51 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-11T06:15:57 < scrts> reading about Qt5 now 2016-07-11T06:16:04 < scrts> what the f... is that shit 2016-07-11T06:17:19 < scrts> that's a new language for me 2016-07-11T06:17:25 < scrts> heard about it but never used 2016-07-11T06:18:11 < Rob235> I haven't used python yet either but it's definitely on the list 2016-07-11T06:21:05 < brianx> python is frustrating when coming from C. it actually requires specific whitespace! 2016-07-11T06:21:31 < brianx> doesn't seem a bad language though. 2016-07-11T06:27:21 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-11T06:31:06 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T06:34:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T06:55:59 < Rob235> cock pump? 2016-07-11T06:56:54 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/DrEinPB.png 2016-07-11T06:57:24 < englishman> sup with that 2016-07-11T06:57:51 < englishman> blame third world postal service? 2016-07-11T06:58:21 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/6zi6meC.jpg 2016-07-11T06:58:22 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-11T06:58:24 < englishman> what baseis that? 2016-07-11T06:59:03 < englishman> >runs repair shop 2016-07-11T06:59:07 < englishman> >breaks all his tools 2016-07-11T06:59:09 < englishman> >cant repair them 2016-07-11T06:59:19 < englishman> time to shutter the doors 2016-07-11T06:59:20 < englishman> go home 2016-07-11T06:59:22 < englishman> have a pint 2016-07-11T07:00:07 < englishman> nice 2016-07-11T07:00:19 < englishman> plus all that wasted time 2016-07-11T07:00:41 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-11T07:00:49 < englishman> should have got $10 engineer solder sucker 2016-07-11T07:01:06 < englishman> paid flip/paki $3/day to use it 2016-07-11T07:01:52 < englishman> if replacing fets 2016-07-11T07:01:55 < englishman> and they fail open 2016-07-11T07:01:58 < englishman> just piggyback the new one 2016-07-11T07:02:13 < englishman> sawzall it open then 2016-07-11T07:02:37 < englishman> that just lets more power thru 2016-07-11T07:02:47 < englishman> now it is 1500W amp 2016-07-11T07:03:21 < englishman> wider soundstage 2016-07-11T07:03:44 < englishman> anyway 2016-07-11T07:03:53 < englishman> sounds like solder suckers... suck 2016-07-11T07:04:08 < englishman> in every way but the literal 2016-07-11T07:04:56 < englishman> did they repair it 2016-07-11T07:05:01 < englishman> presumably with a working solder sucker 2016-07-11T07:05:20 < englishman> but you did not send back the handle/tip? 2016-07-11T07:05:24 < Chris_M> Is this correct, STM32F411 is not 5V I/O tolerant? 2016-07-11T07:05:36 < englishman> ok 2016-07-11T07:06:01 < englishman> huh 2016-07-11T07:06:25 < englishman> yes i wonder how it could be so simple 2016-07-11T07:06:29 < englishman> as a short or open 2016-07-11T07:06:49 < englishman> i will jam a paperclip in a pals metcal 2016-07-11T07:07:11 < englishman> i think he might 2016-07-11T07:07:23 < englishman> brb 2016-07-11T07:18:33 < Rob235> love checking things off my drone list! 2016-07-11T07:19:27 < Rob235> down to 10 2016-07-11T07:20:57 < Rob235> oops, up to 11 2016-07-11T07:21:20 < Rob235> things get added also unfortunately 2016-07-11T07:23:29 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T07:24:51 < Rob235> and I think adding a kill switch is a good addition... 2016-07-11T07:43:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T07:46:36 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T07:49:31 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-11T07:49:36 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-11T08:00:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-11T08:21:26 < Chris_M> R2COM: Thanks, I found it after asking. They call them FT pins. Do I need to enable any type of level shifter or I can just apply 5 volts to a FT GPIO pin setup as an input 2016-07-11T08:25:54 < PaulFertser> MFC, lol. Was so awful back then that Microsoft employees themselves had to code an alternative, WTL. 2016-07-11T08:27:55 < PaulFertser> WTL mapped to WinAPI directly, mostly, so COM suckiness wasn't too much involved iirc. 2016-07-11T08:28:13 < PaulFertser> R2COM: what's wrong with the modern Qt with declarative UI? 2016-07-11T08:28:51 < PaulFertser> ohsix: well, duh, WinAPI _is_ gross. But MFC was another layer of shit covering shit, so of little help. 2016-07-11T08:30:28 < PaulFertser> R2COM: no, Qt just adds a little preprocessing to provide signal-slot system, but that's about it. And modern Qt is mostly playing nicely with modern C++ (using standard smart pointers etc) 2016-07-11T08:31:48 < PaulFertser> R2COM: probably XAML + WPF is what microsoft considers to be the right way to implement UIs nowadays? 2016-07-11T08:33:42 < PaulFertser> R2COM: they say D2D can be used as an engine: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qpaintengine.html 2016-07-11T08:34:31 < PaulFertser> I meant there exists a painting engine in Qt that uses D2D. 2016-07-11T08:38:08 < upgrdman_> Rob235, just #pragma once at the top of any header you write 2016-07-11T08:38:19 < upgrdman_> oh, oops. was looking at scroll back buffer from hours ago 2016-07-11T08:38:51 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-11T08:39:24 < Rob235> R2COM: kinda obsessed with gay dudes... you have something you want to say? 2016-07-11T08:42:42 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T08:57:47 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-11T08:58:30 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T09:20:06 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-11T09:21:02 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T09:36:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T09:41:21 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T09:56:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-11T10:18:17 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T10:19:36 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T10:27:08 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@dog248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T10:29:53 < c10ud^> do you happen to know of a micro-planar inverter? 2016-07-11T10:30:13 < c10ud^> like, 3vdc to whatever, but really really tiny 2016-07-11T10:30:22 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-11T10:33:01 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T10:34:28 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T10:39:02 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T10:44:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T10:56:19 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T11:12:20 < kakimir> I love how coffee butts things in move 2016-07-11T11:14:35 < PaulFertser> Do you really say FPGA as "eph pee jee eye"? 2016-07-11T11:16:42 < PaulFertser> Yeah, rhymes with "die" 2016-07-11T11:17:46 < PaulFertser> AU english is funny 2016-07-11T11:22:00 < PaulFertser> What problem buddy? 2016-07-11T11:27:11 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T11:30:14 < PaulFertser> Renesas USB controller? 2016-07-11T11:33:10 < PaulFertser> And they do not sell it on digikey or something? 2016-07-11T11:37:17 < PaulFertser> Fuckers 2016-07-11T11:49:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-11T12:02:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T12:02:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-250.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T12:05:15 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-11T12:20:49 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-11T12:46:46 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T12:52:34 < Steffanx> Hi. 2016-07-11T12:54:50 -!- jada [0e642cd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.100.44.208] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T13:07:17 < Steffanx> How is our crt? 2016-07-11T13:07:31 < Steffanx> Excellent. 2016-07-11T13:07:38 < Steffanx> The? 2016-07-11T13:09:23 < Steffanx> Love the silkscreen/text. 2016-07-11T13:10:32 < Steffanx> So its going to break again soon? 2016-07-11T13:11:08 < Steffanx> Because of the missing peotection 2016-07-11T13:27:10 -!- jada [0e642cd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.100.44.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T13:35:15 < Steffanx> hi. 2016-07-11T13:35:20 < Steffanx> Lo. 2016-07-11T13:35:37 < Steffanx> Played with an f7 yet? 2016-07-11T13:36:05 < Steffanx> But cache and mr mhz 2016-07-11T13:36:26 < Steffanx> And this nucleo is cheap 2016-07-11T13:36:34 < Steffanx> I should buy one too. 2016-07-11T13:36:49 < Steffanx> Maybe. 2016-07-11T13:37:11 < Steffanx> But you are not mr d. 2016-07-11T13:40:31 < Steffanx> Awg. 2016-07-11T13:43:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:07:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-250.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-11T14:13:13 -!- albru125 [~albru123@89.29.99.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:13:42 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:16:46 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:17:15 -!- albru125 [~albru123@89.29.99.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:19:00 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:20:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:21:11 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:22:33 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-11T14:22:39 -!- albru125 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:23:12 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:23:34 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:24:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:25:56 -!- albru125 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-11T14:26:01 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:28:27 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-11T14:28:33 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:32:11 < trepidacious> There must be an official table somewhere of which peripherals are supported under ChibiOS on each MCU, but I can't find it... 2016-07-11T14:33:29 < emeryth> http://www.chibios.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=chibios:product:hal:platforms 2016-07-11T14:33:32 < emeryth> you mean this? 2016-07-11T14:34:09 < upgrdman_> crt, re your xo2, did you make the deltasigma like i did, or buy an ic? 2016-07-11T14:34:24 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:35:40 < upgrdman_> ya he tipped me onto it too 2016-07-11T14:36:46 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:39:36 < dongs> scrts: what do you mean? 2016-07-11T14:40:21 < dongs> scrts: winapi or c# usually depending on how fast/ugly 2016-07-11T14:42:06 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-11T14:42:19 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:42:56 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/322895958/a-feminist-deck/posts/1625399 2016-07-11T14:42:56 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-11T14:43:09 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:43:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-250.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:50:15 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T14:53:03 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@dog248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T14:55:36 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:58:27 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:58:28 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:58:40 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-11T14:58:47 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-11T14:59:07 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:59:08 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T14:59:17 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-11T15:00:09 < dongs> over 900% pledged 2016-07-11T15:01:49 < Chris_M> is a 1uS timer interrupt possible? No matter what I set the counter period or prescaler too, I can't get less than 2uS 2016-07-11T15:03:12 < qyx> do you really need a 1us repetitive interrupt? 2016-07-11T15:03:14 < qyx> what for? 2016-07-11T15:03:55 < dongs> 1MHz eh 2016-07-11T15:03:59 < Chris_M> need to count how many microseconds has past between two EXTI, 2016-07-11T15:04:04 < dongs> wot 2016-07-11T15:04:10 < qyx> use timer input capture 2016-07-11T15:04:12 < dongs> ^ 2016-07-11T15:04:18 < dongs> exti is tarduino way 2016-07-11T15:04:29 < dongs> and even if you ARE using exti 2016-07-11T15:04:34 < dongs> run a timer at some MHz 2016-07-11T15:04:37 < dongs> read CNT in one 2016-07-11T15:04:39 < dongs> read CNT in final 2016-07-11T15:04:43 < dongs> do uint subtract 2016-07-11T15:04:44 < qyx> yep, or that 2016-07-11T15:04:49 < dongs> there's your time 2016-07-11T15:04:55 < dongs> i dont see why you'd need a repeating interrupt for this 2016-07-11T15:05:18 < qyx> hopefully you are not going to do counter++ in a timer interrupt 2016-07-11T15:05:44 < dongs> look i haev all this timer hardware, so instead I'l do a incrementing counter in interrupt 2016-07-11T15:06:12 < Chris_M> point taken, thanks gents 2016-07-11T15:07:24 < dongs> timer capture the easiest/laziest way, reading free-running timer CNT in exti is another. 2016-07-11T15:07:47 < dongs> (also most accurate, since hardware captures the pulse, not exti->delay->you 2016-07-11T15:08:27 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T15:08:44 < Chris_M> Yeah I see what your saying 2016-07-11T15:13:22 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T15:16:19 < Cicero-MF> in my experience the timer input capture is jittery af 2016-07-11T15:17:35 < Cicero-MF> only way I could get a reliable microsec pulse timer was doing the free running CNT vibe 2016-07-11T15:20:43 < karlp> ur doin it rong 2016-07-11T15:21:15 < karlp> how did you prove you didn't hve jitter in your source? 2016-07-11T15:21:49 < Cicero-MF> haha, perhaps. I was doing DMX-512 data capture, pretty spot on source 2016-07-11T15:22:09 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-11T15:22:37 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T15:23:24 < Cicero-MF> basically just 250k baud serial data with some frame start characteristics. 2016-07-11T15:25:17 < dongs> uh 2016-07-11T15:25:29 < dongs> why would you capture dmx with timer 2016-07-11T15:25:33 < dongs> wehn you can just.. use usart 2016-07-11T15:26:24 < dongs> oh, yeah sure 2016-07-11T15:26:29 < dongs> did that also 2016-07-11T15:26:34 < dongs> but acutal data usart does it just fine 2016-07-11T15:27:33 < dongs> i have various dmx shits on stm8 and f1 2016-07-11T15:27:37 < dongs> lol @ wasting f4 for it 2016-07-11T15:29:26 < Cicero-MF> yes, just to capture the break and mab 2016-07-11T15:31:53 < dongs> bedtime 2016-07-11T15:35:24 < Cicero-MF> lol, so did you use timer capture for dmx then? 2016-07-11T15:35:34 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T15:37:27 < Cicero-MF> well dmx imo should go die in a fire anyway 2016-07-11T15:38:03 < Cicero-MF> no crc, or even checksum...gtfo 2016-07-11T15:40:00 < Cicero-MF> oh, heh, wondered for a bit 2016-07-11T16:00:18 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.245] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T16:01:07 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-11T16:02:13 < Cicero-MF> whos making this shit you're working on? 2016-07-11T16:02:22 < upgrdman_> wuts multicores 2016-07-11T16:04:08 < Cicero-MF> haha 2016-07-11T16:10:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-11T16:15:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T16:56:15 < Shavik> Having issues with my STM32F4 and USB. I opted to not use VBUS sensing and now I'm kicking myself. It appears the HAL stuff is not pleased and really depends on that it seems. Would happy to be wrong here but it never calls DevConnected. I do see the Reset event fire off and there is enumeration traffic in windows but it fails to fully send device descriptors (or at all) 2016-07-11T17:21:41 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T17:21:58 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T17:26:48 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1468210216679.jpg 2016-07-11T17:27:27 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T17:28:39 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-11T17:28:40 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2016-07-11T17:29:26 -!- decimad_ [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T17:30:43 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/NDFJvIv 2016-07-11T17:32:06 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T17:32:10 -!- decimad_ is now known as decimad 2016-07-11T17:34:04 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/YvFUkDH 2016-07-11T17:38:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-250.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-11T17:38:42 -!- decimad_ [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T17:41:15 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-11T17:41:23 -!- decimad_ is now known as decimad 2016-07-11T17:41:55 < Laurenceb> moving to Pakistan http://imgur.com/jRJ0Xiv 2016-07-11T17:49:15 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T17:49:51 < Cicero-MF> haha 2016-07-11T17:52:44 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T18:08:36 < Rob235> mornin 2016-07-11T18:13:41 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T18:15:45 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TURr4jvBqN8 2016-07-11T18:28:05 < trepidacious> emeryth: Sorry for the delay - yup like that, but down to a per-timer level, for example - so which timers are supported for PWM or GPT, etc. 2016-07-11T18:40:55 < aandrew> I really dislike idiotic youtube pricks 2016-07-11T18:42:49 < emeb> http://hackaday.com/2016/07/11/stm32-and-fpgas-in-a-tiny-package/ 2016-07-11T18:42:56 < emeb> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/69375799.jpg 2016-07-11T18:43:17 < Laurenceb> heh hackadayed 2016-07-11T18:43:56 < aandrew> emeb: hahahaha 2016-07-11T18:44:00 < aandrew> I should xpost that in #fpga 2016-07-11T18:44:12 < emeb> n0000000000000000ooooooooooooooooooo 2016-07-11T18:44:25 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T18:49:28 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T18:52:26 < Laurenceb> did you submit it? 2016-07-11T19:13:17 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T19:30:05 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@178.121.244.196] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T19:33:31 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-11T19:36:01 < ReadError> http://ruinmysearchhistory.com 2016-07-11T19:38:54 < Rob235> grrr this is so weird. with the bno055 if I set the axis remap as original then it works fine but roll is wrong sign, if I remap x axis to be negative then it works but doesn't respond as quickly. like if roll is 0 and I tilt it to the right then it should go to +45* or whatever but it goes from 0 to like -20 then relatively slowly to +45 2016-07-11T19:39:56 < emeb> Laurenceb: no I didn't submit myself. That would be pervy. :P 2016-07-11T19:49:45 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T19:58:13 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-11T20:14:18 < Steffanx> do i want that ReadError? 2016-07-11T20:19:32 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T20:19:40 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-11T20:20:43 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28uq00v3g966n4r.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T20:20:54 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T20:21:45 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T20:30:09 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T20:30:57 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-11T20:38:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-11T20:50:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T20:56:31 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T20:57:27 < aandrew> oh this is interesting 2016-07-11T20:57:40 < aandrew> gcc 4.9.2 works, 5.4 does not 2016-07-11T20:57:56 < aandrew> the latter can't find the FreeRTOS.h in the standard stm32cubef4 release 2016-07-11T21:00:17 < Steffanx> even if it did find it, it will break something else. 2016-07-11T21:00:27 < Steffanx> That's how GCC very recent does it's thing 2016-07-11T21:02:30 < aandrew> 4.9.2 works, 5.2.1 works, 5.4.1 on mac works?? 2016-07-11T21:02:31 < aandrew> wtf 2016-07-11T21:03:00 < aandrew> the 2016q2 linux release breaks, the 2016q2 osx release works? 2016-07-11T21:04:58 < Steffanx> Now you feel like you should try the windows release too? 2016-07-11T21:05:07 < aandrew> no 2016-07-11T21:05:13 < aandrew> I usually develop on osx 2016-07-11T21:05:18 < aandrew> trying to do something on linux 2016-07-11T21:05:22 < Steffanx> hah ok. 2016-07-11T21:05:39 < aandrew> clone the repo, install the same stm32f4 zip file, build, crash because it can't find FreeRTOS.h 2016-07-11T21:05:58 < aandrew> if I strace -Ff -e file the make process I can see it searching for FreeRTOS.h but it doesn't search the directory it should 2016-07-11T21:06:02 < aandrew> same makefile 2016-07-11T21:09:32 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfchjylygjzbehxo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-11T21:11:07 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-11T21:11:33 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T21:12:50 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-11T21:18:18 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T21:20:13 < Laurenceb> https://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/27630987374/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/ 2016-07-11T21:22:08 < englishman> Laurenceb's em:drive test facility 2016-07-11T21:22:30 < Laurenceb> nope its a hoving rocket from highaltitude 2016-07-11T21:22:35 < aandrew> heh 2016-07-11T21:22:37 < aandrew> this is fucked 2016-07-11T21:22:45 < aandrew> on linux it searches ever one of my INCS *except* that one line 2016-07-11T21:22:48 < aandrew> in order, even, it skips it 2016-07-11T21:22:55 < aandrew> http://pastebin.com/vJ3KafgU 2016-07-11T21:23:02 < aandrew> the directory on line 16 isn't searched 2016-07-11T21:29:27 < aandrew> mystery solved 2016-07-11T21:30:22 < aandrew> OSX filesystem is case insensitive 2016-07-11T21:30:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T21:30:43 < aandrew> and I guess GCC searches for directory existence early on and stripped that directoyr out 2016-07-11T21:31:58 < aandrew> hm, stm32cubef4 v11 release has an error where RCC_LSE_TIMEOUT_VALUE is undeclared 2016-07-11T21:38:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T21:39:13 < Rob235> I haven't tried cube yet, gonna use it for my next project 2016-07-11T21:41:58 < aandrew> ah this isn't an error so much as my old hal_conf.h needing an update 2016-07-11T21:45:38 < aandrew> yay it builds 2016-07-11T21:56:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-11T22:05:38 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T22:13:26 < aandrew> hm 2016-07-11T22:13:57 < aandrew> ok, so with openocd and the stm32f4discovery, is all I need in my openocd config file "source [find board/stm32f4discovery.cfg] ? 2016-07-11T22:14:27 < aandrew> it finds hte stlink, it tries to talk, says "auto erase enabled" but then right after "Error: Invlid command argument image.base_address option value ('exit') is not valid 2016-07-11T22:14:39 < aandrew> google's less than useful, everyone only blogs about using eclipse 2016-07-11T22:17:13 < Steffanx> lol, does it include that typo? 2016-07-11T22:17:22 < Steffanx> also: #openocd they know all about openocd there 2016-07-11T22:17:45 < aandrew> no tha'ts my typing 2016-07-11T22:17:48 < aandrew> actually foudn it 2016-07-11T22:17:50 < aandrew> the config is fine 2016-07-11T22:18:32 < aandrew> in my makefile my flash target was 2016-07-11T22:18:50 < aandrew> $(OCD) -s $(OCD_DIR) $(OCDFLAGS) -c "program $(TARGET).elf verify reset exit" 2016-07-11T22:18:55 < aandrew> it didn't like my "exit" at teh end 2016-07-11T22:45:17 < PaulFertser> aandrew: what openocd version? 2016-07-11T22:47:29 < PaulFertser> aandrew: "exit" was added after 0.8.0, and present in 0.9.0. 2016-07-11T22:47:50 < PaulFertser> So then the question is what distro still ships 0.8.0 instead of the latest release. 2016-07-11T22:50:49 < PaulFertser> OSX filesystem can be case sensitive if you took care of properly installing OS X (choosing an appropriate option), afair. 2016-07-11T22:51:55 < Rob235> hmmm so I have 9 NVIC's and 5 DMA priorities to set. how do I figure that out? 2016-07-11T22:52:53 < aandrew> yeah this is 0.8.0 2016-07-11T22:53:02 < aandrew> which distro? debian jesse 2016-07-11T22:53:27 < aandrew> PaulFertser: and yep i know about OSX case sensitivity, I did not change thd efault because I didn't want to run into some goofy-ass problem because some closed-source vendor relies on it 2016-07-11T22:53:41 < PaulFertser> But jessie-backports is shipping 0.9.0 already. 2016-07-11T22:57:22 < Rob235> which document shows the dma channels associated with gpio pins/periphs 2016-07-11T22:58:39 < Rob235> found it 2016-07-11T23:01:13 < Lux> fucking st and their new website 2016-07-11T23:01:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-11T23:03:40 < scummos> fucking everyone and their new website 2016-07-11T23:03:47 < scummos> did any website ever get better through an update 2016-07-11T23:03:56 < scummos> farnell is pretty much screwed up as well ... it was bad enough before 2016-07-11T23:12:59 < Rob235> how do I find what the default priority grouping is for nvic? 2016-07-11T23:14:41 < Lux> probably 0 or whatever the regs are initialized to by default 2016-07-11T23:14:46 < Lux> see ref manual 2016-07-11T23:21:52 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aede9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-11T23:25:38 < englishman> Lux> fucking st and their new website 2016-07-11T23:25:41 < englishman> /topic 2016-07-11T23:26:16 < Lux> at least it's stm32 related :P 2016-07-11T23:26:30 < Lux> just got a new toy to play with 2016-07-11T23:26:44 < Lux> x-nucleo-53l0a1 2016-07-11T23:27:05 < Lux> hopefully i can get it to run with close to zero effort + cube + keil 2016-07-11T23:32:37 < Steffanx> mr zyp, are you awake? 2016-07-11T23:33:15 < Steffanx> Im totally not into fibre and stuff, but if one would have https://www.finisar.com/optical-transceivers/ftlx8574d3bcl-0 and 2016-07-11T23:33:17 < Steffanx> http://www.allekabels.nl/lc-glasvezelkabel/6257/1375161/glasvezel-kabel-lc-naar-lc-om3.html 2016-07-11T23:33:24 < Steffanx> would that be compatible/suitable/whatever? 2016-07-11T23:50:14 < aandrew> samtec's website is pretty fucking amazing 2016-07-11T23:58:12 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-11T23:59:42 < aandrew> anyone here have a copy/crack for precipio's tracealyzer? --- Day changed Tue Jul 12 2016 2016-07-12T00:02:24 < kakimir> hello sexuals 2016-07-12T00:04:29 -!- barthess1 [~barthess@178.121.244.196] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-12T00:13:40 < Steffanx> if anyone would have that it would be mr d., aandrew 2016-07-12T00:14:02 < aandrew> yeah I thought so too 2016-07-12T00:14:39 < Steffanx> or not, because no keil 2016-07-12T00:15:22 < Steffanx> Also: don't talk about warez mr aandrew. We do not what that in ##stm32 ( i have to say this right? ) 2016-07-12T00:18:00 < Lux> that ir ranging sensor is pretty nice 2m range indoors with no issues 2016-07-12T00:19:53 < Rob235> should I use nvic irq priority or sub-priorities or do they behave in the same way if you only use one or the other 2016-07-12T00:23:40 < Rob235> actually I'll do 2 bits for each 2016-07-12T00:26:33 < Steffanx> depends if you want to do pre-emptation and stuff Rob235 2016-07-12T00:26:48 < Steffanx> *preemption 2016-07-12T00:27:34 < Rob235> if you set it all to zero its just first come first serve right? 2016-07-12T00:28:44 < Rob235> I don't think it matters but i'll set them in order of importance anyway 2016-07-12T00:30:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-12T00:31:48 < Steffanx> "in order" with group prio or sub prio? 2016-07-12T00:32:26 < Rob235> both, I'm going to use 2 bits for each 2016-07-12T00:32:40 < Rob235> 0:0 is most important, 2:1 is least 2016-07-12T00:37:10 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJLTn10E0OY music time 2016-07-12T00:42:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T00:42:44 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aede9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-07-12T00:43:45 < kakimir> guise what is name of imperial unit based thread in water piping shiets? 2016-07-12T00:43:55 < kakimir> and pneumatics 2016-07-12T00:44:27 < kakimir> like 3/8" 1/4" 1/2"... and so on 2016-07-12T00:45:44 < kakimir> NPT 2016-07-12T00:46:13 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xvkgbifopotnkpca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T00:46:14 < kakimir> I wonder if europe uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_pipe_thread 2016-07-12T00:46:32 < kakimir> at least in funland it is 2016-07-12T00:48:31 < Steffann_> How is kakumur? 2016-07-12T00:50:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T00:51:41 < Laurenceb__> furiously pumping 2016-07-12T00:53:31 < kakimir> Steffann_: tired 2016-07-12T00:53:49 < kakimir> day of soarings 2016-07-12T00:54:07 < kakimir> I'm sun dried 2016-07-12T01:04:59 < kakimir> I did land the plane without teacher intervention 2016-07-12T01:06:01 < kakimir> that was fun 2016-07-12T01:08:08 < kakimir> the pull and touchdown was so perfect there was absolutelly no bump 2016-07-12T01:09:09 < kakimir> what was interesting was that brake do not affect speed almost at all 2016-07-12T01:11:48 < kakimir> plane goes 100kmh and stick is left centered and then pull brakes 2016-07-12T01:11:56 < kakimir> plane still goes 100kmh 2016-07-12T01:12:51 < kakimir> it just falls from sky in steep glide path 2016-07-12T01:17:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T01:21:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T01:31:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-12T01:34:58 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T01:46:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T01:48:38 < ReadError> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/off-duty-cop-missouri-kills-home-invader-argument-black-lives-matter/ 2016-07-12T01:56:03 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T02:08:16 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz1HHc3bIM0 2016-07-12T02:20:58 < Laurenceb__> Q: what music does pol listen to? 2016-07-12T02:21:04 < Laurenceb__> A: cuck and based 2016-07-12T02:23:30 < Laurenceb__> nope 2016-07-12T02:25:01 < Laurenceb__> much Qt gui is failing :( 2016-07-12T02:25:09 < Laurenceb__> "no device connected" 2016-07-12T02:25:36 < Laurenceb__> network stack complexity is out of control :S 2016-07-12T02:25:49 < Laurenceb__> wish there was some simple code I could have copypastered 2016-07-12T02:26:04 < Laurenceb__> maybe something easy to impliment like remote DMA or something 2016-07-12T02:26:27 < Laurenceb__> that would be very haxor friendly but at least it'd be easy to get running 2016-07-12T02:31:06 < Laurenceb__> looks good but expensive 2016-07-12T02:31:15 < Laurenceb__> oh wait I don't know how much that is lol 2016-07-12T02:31:54 < Laurenceb__> ohsix: lul 2016-07-12T02:32:15 < Laurenceb__> COBS based packetisation with sequence number checksum and stuff 2016-07-12T02:32:38 < Laurenceb__> then upper layer with TDMA and network address assignment 2016-07-12T02:33:02 < Laurenceb__> its for horse thing 2016-07-12T02:33:18 < Laurenceb__> Qt gui connects to usb dongle which is the "base station" 2016-07-12T02:33:26 < Laurenceb__> then multiple horses connect to it 2016-07-12T02:33:50 < Laurenceb__> radio does packet from address to address with ARQ 2016-07-12T02:34:07 < Laurenceb__> it will drop a packet if ARQ fails after a while 2016-07-12T02:34:11 < Laurenceb__> lulno 2016-07-12T02:34:27 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should have used raspberry pi lol 2016-07-12T02:34:40 < Laurenceb__> then I could use some TCP/IP or something 2016-07-12T02:35:16 < Laurenceb__> I have liek 10k lines of code and its all had 0 debugging 2016-07-12T02:35:23 < Laurenceb__> this was a bad idea 2016-07-12T02:36:54 < Laurenceb__> yeah uavtalk sucks and mavlink sucks too 2016-07-12T02:37:49 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T02:39:40 < Laurenceb__> there is an ascii name for each device 2016-07-12T02:40:06 < Laurenceb__> the network address just starts at 0x01 when the gui it fired up 2016-07-12T02:40:08 < Laurenceb__> *is 2016-07-12T02:40:35 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-07-12T02:41:40 < Thorn> is this actually true or are they hiding something http://www.ti.com/lit/er/swrz058a/swrz058a.pdf 2016-07-12T02:43:11 < Thorn> in any given stm32 half the peripherals don't work properly 2016-07-12T02:43:35 < Laurenceb__> ohsix: thats what I'm doing atm 2016-07-12T02:43:42 < Laurenceb__> lul Thorn 2016-07-12T02:47:00 < Laurenceb__> well atm my sequence number doesnt incriment and the gui rejects the packets 2016-07-12T02:47:06 < Thorn> they supply some kind of software stack for these ICs, maybe bugs are worked around there 2016-07-12T02:47:15 < Laurenceb__> something wrong in passing function pointers around :S 2016-07-12T02:47:31 < Laurenceb__> I guess it seems quite close to working :/ 2016-07-12T02:48:51 < Laurenceb__> yeah need to break out debugger 2016-07-12T02:49:07 < Laurenceb__> annoying when I'm debugging firmware and gui at the same time 2016-07-12T02:51:11 < Laurenceb__> oh god 2016-07-12T02:51:29 < Laurenceb__> crt fingers 2016-07-12T03:02:23 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xvkgbifopotnkpca] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-12T03:03:45 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0ktIuv8KP1b1SaswlBnCtQ 2016-07-12T03:04:48 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-12T03:06:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T03:10:18 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-12T03:10:28 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T03:13:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T03:13:54 < Laurenceb__> >watching youtube videos for anything other than lulz 2016-07-12T03:17:59 < Laurenceb__> oh shit out of control pointers 2016-07-12T03:18:28 < Laurenceb__> sequence number pointer is marching through memory lol 2016-07-12T03:23:55 < upgrdman> what do you call the id for a csv? a column number? an index? 2016-07-12T03:24:16 < upgrdman> like "the value after the 3rd comma" ... "index 3" ? 2016-07-12T03:24:54 < ReadError> header 2016-07-12T03:25:07 < ReadError> column 2016-07-12T03:25:26 < ReadError> column and row is what most things use anyways 2016-07-12T03:26:30 < upgrdman> k thx 2016-07-12T03:28:35 < upgrdman> ohsix, :) just trying to not reinvent naming conventions 2016-07-12T03:28:55 < dongs> "autism index" 2016-07-12T03:29:09 < upgrdman> ^ that works as well 2016-07-12T03:31:27 < upgrdman> ya i figured that much. and i was calling the columns "columns" ... but wasnt sure if that'd be norm. 2016-07-12T03:31:36 < upgrdman> index? 2016-07-12T03:33:15 < upgrdman> like before i learned what state machines were, i was using them (correctly even) but call the "state" the "step" ... and i look at some of my old code and lolwut sometimes 2016-07-12T03:33:21 < upgrdman> trying to avoid that fuckery 2016-07-12T03:34:28 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-12T03:41:25 < upgrdman> crt, what do you mean? capacitors double as heatsinks bro! 2016-07-12T03:41:40 < upgrdman> sometimes i even glue my FETs to them 2016-07-12T03:41:51 < Thorn> to220 without a heatsink? 2016-07-12T03:43:00 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-12T03:44:10 < upgrdman> thermally matches them, bonus points 2016-07-12T03:48:26 < dongs> silkscreen looks ok 2016-07-12T03:48:37 < dongs> os R105 0603? 2016-07-12T03:48:41 < dongs> is 2016-07-12T03:52:42 < dongs> o yea 2016-07-12T03:52:44 < dongs> 4 numbers 2016-07-12T03:52:47 < dongs> 0603 only has 3 2016-07-12T03:52:54 < dongs> and they use letter codes for 1% 2016-07-12T03:56:46 < dongs> raged stoners 2016-07-12T03:58:21 < dongs> ops 2016-07-12T03:58:25 < dongs> turned on metcal 2016-07-12T03:58:40 < dongs> saw no handset in holder 2016-07-12T03:59:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T04:09:25 < Thorn> is this an SDR in the top right ("RF core")? http://www.ti.com/general/docs/datasheetdiagram.tsp?genericPartNumber=CC2650&diagramId=SWRS158A 2016-07-12T04:09:45 < dongs> no 2016-07-12T04:09:51 < dongs> just your tytpical bluetooth/whatever chipset 2016-07-12T04:09:57 < dongs> where tehy have a closed-sores RF core 2016-07-12T04:10:02 < dongs> that you talk to over uart or omsething 2016-07-12T04:10:26 < dongs> 'dsp modem' does the radio stuff, m0 core talks to it over closed sores 2016-07-12T04:10:31 < dongs> and you talk to m0 with whatever 2016-07-12T04:11:13 < Thorn> what does the m0 do? 2016-07-12T04:11:27 < dongs> talks to the modem 2016-07-12T04:12:58 < Thorn> applpication level stuff runs on the m3 to the left of it. the m0 is not user programmable afaict 2016-07-12T04:13:05 < dongs> correct 2016-07-12T04:13:35 < dongs> that is what i said anyway. 2016-07-12T04:13:39 < dongs> the modem/rf shit is "proprietary" 2016-07-12T04:13:45 < dongs> so tehy dont want you to have direct control over it 2016-07-12T04:13:49 < dongs> also because regulations 2016-07-12T04:13:58 < dongs> so the M0 does that, and provides API for you to talk to that is safe. 2016-07-12T04:16:01 < dongs> https://imgur.com/gallery/KabxJ fucking lol, the weeb is strong wiht this one 2016-07-12T04:21:03 < Thorn> Japan now has its own Pripyat? 2016-07-12T04:37:19 < upgrdman> anyone know of an eclipse plugin for making ASCII boxes / art / shit ? 2016-07-12T04:40:04 < dongs> er 2016-07-12T04:40:06 < dongs> out if +-? 2016-07-12T04:40:09 < dongs> or out of unicode stuff 2016-07-12T04:40:20 < dongs> also: just use DUHDRAW 2016-07-12T04:40:23 < dongs> in DOSBOX 2016-07-12T04:40:30 < upgrdman> ya utf8 is cool too 2016-07-12T04:40:36 < dongs> wauit wat 2016-07-12T04:40:37 < dongs> duhdraw is lunix 2016-07-12T04:40:40 * upgrdman googles duhdraw 2016-07-12T04:40:45 < upgrdman> oh bummer 2016-07-12T04:41:08 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheDraw 2016-07-12T04:41:09 < dongs> loo 2016-07-12T04:41:13 < dongs> Initial release January 5, 1986; 30 years ago[1] 2016-07-12T04:41:14 < dongs> Stable release 4.63 / October 1993; 22 years ago 2016-07-12T04:41:15 < dongs> holy fucking shit 2016-07-12T04:41:38 < emeb> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17017364/jg_p.jpg 2016-07-12T04:44:05 < dongs> why would an article on BBC play a video ad for airbus 2016-07-12T04:44:15 < dongs> "what is the most efficient and cost effective aircraft today" 2016-07-12T04:44:21 < dongs> do BBC readers like to buy airplanes 2016-07-12T04:44:24 < dongs> on an impulse 2016-07-12T04:44:35 < dongs> hey that looks pretty good, lemme pull out my credit card 2016-07-12T04:44:43 < upgrdman> yes, so they can brexit from brittan 2016-07-12T04:51:46 < dongs> nobody sane hopefully 2016-07-12T04:51:50 < dongs> i arelady told you ti sux 2016-07-12T04:53:41 < dongs> no idea, winapi or .nut 2016-07-12T04:53:49 < dongs> i thought you used mfc 2016-07-12T04:53:52 < dongs> what the fuck else do youwant 2016-07-12T05:02:28 < dongs> you use what you know how to use 2016-07-12T05:17:49 < upgrdman> any of you pros use the DVT plugin for Eclipse? seems like it might be nice for FPGA fuckery 2016-07-12T05:18:18 < dongs> nothing in eclipse is "nice" 2016-07-12T05:23:57 < upgrdman> R2COM, systemverilog, vhdl, e 2016-07-12T05:24:09 < upgrdman> basically buttstream development with eclipse 2016-07-12T05:24:45 < upgrdman> https://www.dvteclipse.com/Design_and_Verification_Tools_Eclipse_IDE.html 2016-07-12T05:25:09 < upgrdman> ohsix, that SFW? 2016-07-12T05:25:58 < upgrdman> ohsix, looks like it might be useful if i ever need to waste time. bookmarked. 2016-07-12T05:26:13 < upgrdman> R2COM, how do you like SVe 2016-07-12T05:26:21 < upgrdman> true 2016-07-12T05:28:07 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/nice-bike-light-for-ohsix/32667406507.html 2016-07-12T05:29:02 < upgrdman> dat URL. gotta love SEO 2016-07-12T05:35:10 < brianx> i think you're entertaining ohsix. not that i matter. 2016-07-12T05:40:33 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-12T05:41:07 < dongs> entertainining in a "i feel sorry for retards" kinda way 2016-07-12T05:42:08 < brianx> shhh dongs 2016-07-12T05:43:02 < emeb> gah - python is so frustrating 2016-07-12T05:43:10 < emeb> I have to force myself to use it :P 2016-07-12T05:44:33 < emeb> just trying to get some skill outside the comfort zone. 2016-07-12T05:44:40 < emeb> used to doing everything in matlab 2016-07-12T05:44:47 < emeb> but matlab is for old people :O 2016-07-12T05:45:15 < emeb> which editor 2016-07-12T05:45:21 < emeb> I'm using idle3 now 2016-07-12T05:45:25 < emeb> it's a bit odd 2016-07-12T05:45:48 < Rob235> what can you do with python? can you read in serial data or make graphs? 2016-07-12T05:45:55 < upgrdman> R2COM, ? like you want a lighter editor than eclipse? 2016-07-12T05:46:10 < emeb> Rob235: I'm using numpy and matplotlib 2016-07-12T05:46:14 < Rob235> would it be good for a debugging dashboard to display all the drone sensor stuff? 2016-07-12T05:46:27 < emeb> matplotlib has nicer output than matlab even 2016-07-12T05:46:43 < dongs> QCustomPlot is a Qt C++ widget for plotting and data visualization. It has no further dependencies and is well documented. 2016-07-12T05:46:48 < Rob235> I started a dashboard in matlab but got bored 2016-07-12T05:46:53 < dongs> "no further dependencies" you mean besides QT? 2016-07-12T05:47:01 < emeb> lol 2016-07-12T05:47:46 < dongs> you can get cool plots with gnuplot 2016-07-12T05:47:58 < dongs> or excel 2016-07-12T05:48:02 < emeb> ohsix: you so funny 2016-07-12T05:48:04 < emeb> i laugh 2016-07-12T05:48:17 < dongs> this is not #comedycentral 2016-07-12T05:48:17 < Rob235> I actually tried excel, couldn't get serial working 2016-07-12T05:48:25 < emeb> node.js is badass rockstar tech! 2016-07-12T05:48:58 < emeb> ohsix: if I needed to do that then maybe. but I don't :) 2016-07-12T05:49:04 < upgrdman> wait. excel has serial support? 2016-07-12T05:52:20 < upgrdman> R2COM, i downloaded QTcreator a ~year ago, though it seemed interesting but fucking weird ass IDE so i said fuck it. java will do, even if it sucks. 2016-07-12T05:52:29 < dongs> R2COM: yeah non-starter 2016-07-12T05:52:41 < dongs> XAML/WPF/wahtever shit, id ont think anyone actually uses that 2016-07-12T05:53:00 < upgrdman> also, IDE didnt handle display scaling, so it can fuck right off 2016-07-12T05:53:26 < Rob235> time to learn some python, bbl 2016-07-12T05:54:48 < dongs> hipster stoner fgt 2016-07-12T05:54:55 < emeb> lol 2016-07-12T05:55:15 < emeb> hmmm... got som 128x64 color OLEDs from china 2016-07-12T05:55:29 < emeb> ifinkso 2016-07-12T05:55:38 < emeb> that's what I paid for anyway 2016-07-12T05:56:01 < upgrdman> are there any big eink displays available yet? like >3" ? 2016-07-12T05:56:17 < upgrdman> other than ripping apart a kindle and trying to RE it 2016-07-12T05:57:00 < upgrdman> oh that reminds me, those sharp "memory" lcds... anyone used them? is it just like an lcd except the image persists when off? 2016-07-12T06:00:18 < Thorn> qt creator still doesn't know that you need to keep tabs as tabs in makefiles 2016-07-12T06:00:38 < emeb> these things: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/7806957137.html 2016-07-12T06:00:46 < upgrdman> R2COM, like on 4k, i want 1080 but "crisper" so i use 200% scaling in windows 2016-07-12T06:01:44 < dongs> he's a blind macintosh faggot 2016-07-12T06:02:49 < upgrdman> ya well i like things easy to read 2016-07-12T06:02:49 < upgrdman> and without sitting close to the monitor 2016-07-12T06:02:49 < upgrdman> so fuck me, right 2016-07-12T06:03:21 < dongs> http://www.monkeylectric.com/monkey_light_pro/ why the shit is this thing $1000 per wheel lol 2016-07-12T06:03:41 < upgrdman> R2COM, because if i cant enjoy using an IDE, it can fuck right off ? 2016-07-12T06:04:12 < upgrdman> or if not enjoy, at least tolerate in exchange for some benefits 2016-07-12T06:04:42 < upgrdman> some signif benefits 2016-07-12T06:05:42 < upgrdman> ohsix, are the kinda displays a bitch to dick with? 2016-07-12T06:06:19 < upgrdman> s/kinda/kindle 2016-07-12T06:06:25 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-12T06:15:13 < Thorn> only if you pay $$$ for qt embedded 2016-07-12T06:17:31 < Thorn> >Qt for Device Creation is a product available only under a commercial license. 2016-07-12T06:17:37 < Thorn> https://www.qt.io/licensing/ 2016-07-12T06:31:08 < Thorn> >windows 2016-07-12T06:31:14 < Thorn> >supports arduino api 2016-07-12T06:35:49 < Thorn> is this former Borland C++? 2016-07-12T06:35:58 < Thorn> for DOS 2016-07-12T06:42:37 < upgrdman> um 2016-07-12T06:42:44 < upgrdman> not me 2016-07-12T06:42:52 < upgrdman> but i made my own super shitty one 2016-07-12T06:43:32 < upgrdman> this: http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2014-09-27_Servo_Tester,_2.4GHz_Spectrum_Analyzer,_Tetris/pic1.jpg 2016-07-12T06:43:39 < Chris_M> R2COM: was it uGFX? 2016-07-12T06:43:58 < upgrdman> ya i dont think it was me. but ya ugfx or tectugfx or someshit 2016-07-12T06:44:52 < upgrdman> some shit he uses. or maybe developed? 2016-07-12T06:45:39 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T06:46:47 < upgrdman> ping dongie. iirc hes super pro with that. 2016-07-12T06:49:46 < Thorn> R2COM: >STemWin is provided under binary form to any STM32 customer, for free. 2016-07-12T06:49:53 < Thorn> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/embedded-software/mcus-embedded-software/stm32-embedded-software/stm32-standard-peripheral-libraries-expansions/stemwin.html 2016-07-12T06:50:52 < Thorn> the lcd-equipped discovery boards come with demos based on stemwin 2016-07-12T06:52:20 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-12T06:52:51 < Thorn> these look like drivers only 2016-07-12T06:54:03 < Thorn> no it doesn't 2016-07-12T06:56:06 < Thorn> http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-hack-mobile-devices-using-youtube-videos/ 2016-07-12T07:00:25 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-12T07:16:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T07:19:04 < dongs> wat 2016-07-12T07:20:10 < dongs> checkin freecancer then doing some altium work 2016-07-12T07:20:26 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/build-automatic-dog-scratcher/ 2016-07-12T07:21:27 < dongs> didnt they already tell you to use stemwin 2016-07-12T07:21:37 < dongs> why you gotta ask again 2016-07-12T07:23:37 < Chris_M> you would think ST would put in the datasheet or reference manaul that PB2 is the NPOR pin on STM32F0 2016-07-12T07:23:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T07:25:04 < dongs> http://www.wayengineer.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=466_50_66&products_id=111&zenid=2bpborakm22678jlvbnvrupbn4#.V4RxH2h96DM 2016-07-12T07:25:07 < dongs> any of thise kinda shit 2016-07-12T07:29:01 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Design-HIGH-functioning-OEM-sex/ 2016-07-12T07:30:34 < dongs> ya 2016-07-12T07:45:16 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T07:48:34 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-12T07:48:39 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-12T07:48:48 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T08:21:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T08:24:21 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-12T08:42:13 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T08:42:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-12T09:23:08 < upgrdman_> dongs, did englishbro ever review your amazeSoftWire ? 2016-07-12T09:23:19 < dongs> pretty sure he's got like over 9000 meters of it by now 2016-07-12T09:23:26 < dongs> in various connector styles 2016-07-12T09:23:41 < upgrdman_> its 10 conductor, right? 2016-07-12T09:24:01 < dongs> either that or 8, i think he got both width before 2016-07-12T09:24:17 < upgrdman_> wanna sell me some? how much per meter? MOQ? 2016-07-12T09:24:28 < dongs> ship to china????????????/////////////////// lolol 2016-07-12T09:24:29 < dongs> its cheap 2016-07-12T09:24:35 < dongs> i can just get chiangirl to send you some in qhatever qty 2016-07-12T09:24:35 < upgrdman_> to usa. 2016-07-12T09:24:38 < dongs> dont think there was moq 2016-07-12T09:24:49 < upgrdman_> my permanent enslavement ends in a few weeks 2016-07-12T09:25:00 < dongs> you got fired? 2016-07-12T09:25:10 < upgrdman_> no 2016-07-12T09:25:22 < upgrdman_> they just know i hate being in cn 2016-07-12T09:25:41 < upgrdman_> so i'll be pro trolling from the 1st world for a while. 2016-07-12T09:26:01 < upgrdman_> so uh how much per meter? msg if nda? 2016-07-12T09:26:53 < dongs> looks liek 6pin shit i ordered last was like 20c 2016-07-12T09:26:57 < dongs> / meter 2016-07-12T09:27:07 < dongs> lets see wat englishman got 2016-07-12T09:29:51 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T09:29:58 < dongs> 0.75 for 10pin 2016-07-12T09:30:10 < dongs> moq 10 meters, wow so expensive 2016-07-12T09:30:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-12T09:31:42 < upgrdman_> k. i'll bother you when im back in the usa to see about buying maybe 10 or 20 meters of 10pin 2016-07-12T09:32:23 < upgrdman_> i dont even know my address here in cn, and fuck if anyone will know to give me the package 2016-07-12T09:32:36 < upgrdman_> ya fuck that 2016-07-12T09:32:47 < upgrdman_> adios 2016-07-12T09:35:37 < upgrdman_> nah 2016-07-12T09:35:46 < upgrdman_> i took all sorts of shit with me to/from cn all the time 2016-07-12T09:35:58 < upgrdman_> syringe of flux, wire, connectors, etc. 2016-07-12T09:36:03 < upgrdman_> wire cutters 2016-07-12T09:36:12 < upgrdman_> that stuff in checked. but 2016-07-12T09:36:29 < upgrdman_> i took my anal disco + jumpers wires + mini grabbers on my carry on. no issue at all. 2016-07-12T09:37:36 < upgrdman_> i think the hakko iron tips i brought over were in my carry on as well 2016-07-12T09:37:44 < englishman> upgrdman_: why not head down to the corner store and buy some like typical china 2016-07-12T09:38:11 < englishman> sure 2016-07-12T09:38:14 < upgrdman_> englishman, because its easier to buy what i need in the usa where i can FULLY describe what i need 2016-07-12T09:38:40 < englishman> but you'd still be describing it to chinese 2016-07-12T09:38:59 < upgrdman_> not if i buy from mouser 2016-07-12T09:39:17 < englishman> right 2016-07-12T09:39:36 < englishman> USA economy, built on buying stuff and selling it at a higher price 2016-07-12T09:39:41 < upgrdman_> and its not like i care about price. this shits for work. "heres the expense report" done 2016-07-12T09:40:06 < upgrdman_> also a lot of what i use is NOT made in china. because i want quality 2016-07-12T09:40:12 < upgrdman_> like hakko tips are jap iirc 2016-07-12T09:40:31 < upgrdman_> and i have some made in usa wire cutters, carbide FTW 2016-07-12T09:40:33 < englishman> and the superior Chinese thermaldonics are Chinese 2016-07-12T09:40:59 < englishman> wat 2016-07-12T09:41:24 < englishman> I said I have pix, not that I know where they are 2016-07-12T09:41:49 < upgrdman_> ohsix, silicone loose like ABS in a photo you douche nozzle 2016-07-12T09:41:55 < upgrdman_> looks* 2016-07-12T09:42:02 < upgrdman_> well kinda, but you know 2016-07-12T09:42:16 < englishman> yes they are silicone coated ribbon cable, and they are awesome 2016-07-12T09:42:27 < upgrdman_> what gauge? 2016-07-12T09:42:45 < upgrdman_> this isnt some like 40awg shit thats like 1kOhm per foot? 2016-07-12T09:42:52 < englishman> iirc I got 28 and 30 2016-07-12T09:42:59 < upgrdman_> k 2016-07-12T09:43:44 < upgrdman_> ribbon isnt braided 2016-07-12T09:50:00 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T09:50:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T09:54:03 < upgrdman_> ya i just want it for the flexibility 2016-07-12T09:54:05 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28uq00v3g966n4r.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T09:54:34 < upgrdman_> ohsix, if you want durable, i bought some Molex TempFlex. its not actually as flexible as they make it look, but it feels super durable and high quality 2016-07-12T09:54:39 < upgrdman_> FEP insulation 2016-07-12T09:56:12 < upgrdman_> deet? 2016-07-12T09:58:17 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egifzhkpzqphqjle] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T10:02:28 < upgrdman_> fucking cn. "Progress: 307.2KB of 839.0KB (2.48KB/s)" .... literally worse than dial up 2016-07-12T10:02:36 < dongs> dunno bro 2016-07-12T10:02:44 < dongs> i remote into chinagirl network from time to time 2016-07-12T10:02:47 < dongs> downloads are fine 2016-07-12T10:02:50 < dongs> 100s k/sec 2016-07-12T10:02:54 < dongs> from usual places like microsoft etc 2016-07-12T10:02:57 < dongs> i think you're just in a shithole 2016-07-12T10:03:14 < upgrdman_> through a service or direct from pc to pc? 2016-07-12T10:03:24 < dongs> 'service'? 2016-07-12T10:03:28 < dongs> like clikc on download,microsoft.com link 2016-07-12T10:03:34 < dongs> or etc. 2016-07-12T10:03:46 < dongs> through wifi -> some shitty office network 2016-07-12T10:04:00 < upgrdman_> cuz some service seem to have like "special access" on the cn net. like gotomeeting between cn/usa works ok 2016-07-12T10:04:03 < dongs> i mean i can remote into stuff and its totally usable already, so that means the link is at least capable of doing 50k/sec up/down 2016-07-12T10:04:36 < dongs> via teamjewer 2016-07-12T10:04:39 < upgrdman_> i must be getting raped then 2016-07-12T10:04:54 < upgrdman_> but in hotel/work/phone, i often get slow shit 2016-07-12T10:05:06 < upgrdman_> SOMETIMES i get super lucky, and i can watch youtube at 144p for like 10 minutes 2016-07-12T10:05:23 < upgrdman_> usually, its like 5 - 50KBps, with 99% packet loss 2016-07-12T10:06:01 < upgrdman_> but in cn is decent. i get like 10-20Mbps to tao bao etc. 2016-07-12T10:06:13 < upgrdman_> cn exit IPs 2016-07-12T10:06:52 < upgrdman_> hp clones of what 2016-07-12T10:07:12 < upgrdman_> do you live near black people, ohsix 2016-07-12T10:07:24 < dongs> ohsix is black 2016-07-12T10:08:21 < upgrdman_> in long beach, i sometimes here a shot or two. then in the news there some shit about black-on-black crime. 2016-07-12T10:09:03 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-07-12T10:09:56 < upgrdman_> weird fucking thing is, theres some rich homes, like >$2M, within a mile of this shit 2016-07-12T10:10:09 < upgrdman_> like who the fucks pays for those, near a ghetto 2016-07-12T10:11:22 < upgrdman_> a mile 2016-07-12T10:11:32 < upgrdman_> like literally a mile. not even two. 2016-07-12T10:11:37 < dongs> freedom fucking units 2016-07-12T10:11:52 < upgrdman_> < 1.5kM 2016-07-12T10:11:56 < upgrdman_> err km 2016-07-12T10:16:36 < upgrdman_> that lcd looks so photoshopped 2016-07-12T10:16:50 < upgrdman_> like badly too. must have outsides that photoshopping to cn 2016-07-12T10:16:58 < upgrdman_> outsourced* 2016-07-12T10:17:44 < upgrdman_> for what? charging lipo it in? 2016-07-12T10:28:12 < upgrdman_> refillable aerosol can 2016-07-12T10:28:19 < upgrdman_> harbor freight has em 2016-07-12T10:28:54 < upgrdman_> with shrader valve iirc. no built in dick pump 2016-07-12T10:34:32 < upgrdman_> oh shit, they dont carry them anymore: http://hfreviews.com/item.php?id=4 2016-07-12T10:35:28 < upgrdman_> i had one, through it out figuring fuck it, its cheaper to buy a new one instead of clean it. lol 2016-07-12T10:36:01 < upgrdman_> aerosol olive oil "for the kitchen" ... sure 2016-07-12T10:36:22 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ry8OOuACDA 2016-07-12T10:36:30 < upgrdman_> but ya, doubt it was rated for food/internal use 2016-07-12T10:40:52 < upgrdman_> make sense 2016-07-12T10:41:06 < upgrdman_> so why does Big Oil sell it like that? 2016-07-12T10:41:11 < upgrdman_> doesnt* 2016-07-12T10:41:41 < upgrdman_> maybe just get a spray bottle? like windex style 2016-07-12T10:41:59 < upgrdman_> how do you test pan temp with oil 2016-07-12T10:42:07 < upgrdman_> other than "shitz on fire yo" 2016-07-12T10:42:28 < upgrdman_> o ok 2016-07-12T10:42:41 < upgrdman_> so is there any warning before it burns (serious question) 2016-07-12T10:42:54 < upgrdman_> like i know it will mist a little when super hot 2016-07-12T10:42:59 < upgrdman_> but will it smoke before burn 2016-07-12T10:43:00 < upgrdman_> ok 2016-07-12T10:43:45 < upgrdman_> ya i know that much 2016-07-12T10:44:07 < upgrdman_> the majority of my cooking with oil experience is like pancakes, french toast and latkas 2016-07-12T10:44:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-07-12T10:44:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T10:45:25 < upgrdman_> one time i was dumb as shit i took a hot pan i just made pancakes in (and it has some oil reside left it in) and i stuck it in the sink and filled it with water like everything else. dumb as fuck. lol 2016-07-12T10:45:39 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T10:45:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-12T10:46:30 -!- sterna1 is now known as sternas 2016-07-12T10:46:34 -!- sternas is now known as sterna 2016-07-12T10:54:42 < PaulFertser> btw, looks like the new fad about "ceramic" pans is just BS, they do not last for more than half a year really and after that they become super-stick. Regular PTFE pans in the same operating conditions work for years, without any drawbacks. 2016-07-12T11:00:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-12T11:00:28 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T11:01:38 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T11:08:24 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T11:11:02 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T11:12:43 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-07-12T11:18:25 < jpa-> PaulFertser: my ceramic pan has lasted a few years now, but it sure is stickier than normal PTFE 2016-07-12T11:18:37 < jpa-> though PTFE pans last a few years in my use also.. 2016-07-12T11:26:08 < Taxman> i have severe doubts on the health side with PTFE 2016-07-12T11:28:16 < Taxman> ohsix: Can happen. a ceramic pan does not matter this 2016-07-12T11:31:33 < Taxman> ohsix: Putting a pan on the oven, starting it to the highest level just for a quick start and then the phone rings... 2016-07-12T11:32:16 < Taxman> i thing that oil fires are less harmful than ptfe ilness 2016-07-12T11:32:20 < Taxman> illness 2016-07-12T11:34:32 < Taxman> no idea 2016-07-12T11:36:02 < Taxman> i admit that i am an old fashioned cook... i do not have even a microwave ofen 2016-07-12T11:36:08 < Taxman> oven 2016-07-12T11:37:44 < PaulFertser> Taxman: according to wikipedia, PTFE is not dangerous at all anymore since they stopped using PFOA. 2016-07-12T11:38:02 < PaulFertser> And PFOA was really dangerous only for birds anyway. 2016-07-12T11:42:25 < PaulFertser> Can't find burnt PTFE on youtube, heh. 2016-07-12T11:43:21 < emeryth> if your cooking is producing huge amounts of hot ptfe fumes you should not be cooking at all 2016-07-12T11:43:54 < dongs> and this is why you just /ignore ohsix 2016-07-12T11:44:02 < dongs> how many hours has he been assburgering about some cooking trash? 2016-07-12T11:44:03 < dongs> right. 2016-07-12T11:44:10 < dongs> glad I'm actually busy making money 2016-07-12T11:45:47 < PaulFertser> PTFE _melting_ point is 600K! 2016-07-12T11:51:45 < dongs> unless there's a STM32 involved in that stove , i dont wanna hear it 2016-07-12T12:00:36 < kakimir> I need electrodes for battery tab welding 2016-07-12T12:01:42 < kakimir> just unalloyed copper rod? 2016-07-12T12:02:14 < kakimir> friend said proper spot welding electrodes are high temperature alloy of copper 2016-07-12T12:02:55 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-12T12:08:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T12:10:31 < Sync> kakimir: beryllium copper or tungsten copper 2016-07-12T12:10:35 < Sync> silicon bronze also works 2016-07-12T12:12:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-139.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T12:15:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-12T12:16:28 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUNKKO-719A-Li-on-Battery-Spot-Welding-Pen-Battery-Spot-Welder-Pen-New-Y-/152051160607 I wonder if there is something to justify the price 2016-07-12T12:20:09 < kakimir> the whole set would cost only like.. 2x that price 2016-07-12T12:20:20 < kakimir> it's shitty transformer in a box 2016-07-12T12:20:56 < kakimir> triac magic and mcu in front panel board 2016-07-12T12:22:30 < kakimir> no need to 2016-07-12T12:22:52 < kakimir> I have my own shitty design 2016-07-12T12:27:46 < kakimir> beryllium is not dangerous in alloy with copper? 2016-07-12T12:27:56 < dongs> Shttp://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935 2016-07-12T12:27:59 < dongs> http://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935 2016-07-12T12:28:03 < dongs> lol 2016-07-12T12:28:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T12:29:32 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egifzhkpzqphqjle] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-12T12:31:19 < qyx> dongs: digikey newsletter? 2016-07-12T12:31:28 < dongs> retweting from somewehre else 2016-07-12T12:31:30 < qyx> interesting ic, but meh 2016-07-12T12:31:35 < dongs> but maybe yeah, dunno the source 2016-07-12T12:31:50 < qyx> yeah, I have read it in the morning 2016-07-12T12:35:38 < kakimir> no CoBe then 2016-07-12T12:35:40 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T12:36:35 < kakimir> unknown 2016-07-12T12:36:57 < kakimir> dozens to hundreds 2016-07-12T12:37:43 < kakimir> silicon bronze is inexpensives I see 2016-07-12T12:38:39 < kakimir> I use MOT with triac magic 2016-07-12T12:39:13 < kakimir> there is tig welding material rods made of silicon bronze 2016-07-12T12:39:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-12T12:41:45 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rblrosdokbppqtvh] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T12:41:53 < kakimir> great desing 2016-07-12T12:42:00 < kakimir> *design 2016-07-12T12:44:40 < dongs> fuck 2016-07-12T12:44:51 < dongs> if you make one part of schematic hierarchical in altidumb 2016-07-12T12:45:00 < dongs> you have to basically make a top-level sheet with everything connected 2016-07-12T12:45:03 < dongs> or else it doenst work 2016-07-12T12:45:20 < dongs> i have a bunch of sheets and just added one thing hierarchically and now it fucked everything up 2016-07-12T12:45:23 < dongs> hm 2016-07-12T12:47:29 < dongs> somethign to do with multiple top level documents 2016-07-12T12:59:44 < zyp> dongs, status on my shit? 2016-07-12T13:00:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-139.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-12T13:08:12 < dongs> i thought i sent email 2016-07-12T13:09:08 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T13:21:19 < dongs> PeterM: any pro 1S lipo charger ICs <= 4A charge currente? 2016-07-12T13:21:27 < dongs> (so obv something switching) 2016-07-12T13:28:07 < qyx> related, any pro aluminium case with "modular slots"? 2016-07-12T13:29:32 < dongs> o wait 2016-07-12T13:29:36 < dongs> ill just reuse same shit i did last time 2016-07-12T13:29:38 < dongs> MP2617 2016-07-12T13:31:14 < qyx> nice ic 2016-07-12T13:31:39 < dongs> god damn alticocks 2016-07-12T13:32:36 < dongs> IsNamedPolygon('cocks') 2016-07-12T13:32:39 < dongs> have polygon named cocks. 2016-07-12T13:32:44 < dongs> RULE STILL DOENST APPLY 2016-07-12T13:33:03 < dongs> ah 2016-07-12T13:33:05 < dongs> priority shit again 2016-07-12T13:33:05 < dongs> k 2016-07-12T13:33:09 < dongs> one of these days il lremember 2016-07-12T14:10:09 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-12T14:10:21 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T14:19:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-174.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T14:24:18 < zyp> dongs, so what's up with the filenames? 2016-07-12T14:24:26 < dongs> zyp, you only attached one pcbdoc 2016-07-12T14:24:29 < dongs> because it was named same 2016-07-12T14:24:35 < zyp> same? 2016-07-12T14:24:39 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-12T14:24:41 < dongs> pcb1 2016-07-12T14:24:48 < dongs> the jvs pcbdoc didnt atach 2016-07-12T14:25:07 < dongs> im g uessing you dropped both and google / whatever ate one 2016-07-12T14:25:17 < zyp> oh, I didn't attach that at all, forgot about it 2016-07-12T14:26:01 < zyp> forgot that there were two layouts on these panels .p 2016-07-12T14:26:11 < dongs> o hehe 2016-07-12T14:26:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T14:27:09 < dongs> btw, its like 10 keystrokes to get designators shown, centered, and sent to mech3 2016-07-12T14:27:13 < zyp> hmm, I'm away all week, so I can't get you the other one until monday 2016-07-12T14:27:27 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T14:27:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-12T14:27:36 < dongs> i think the bitching was mostly about cardio. 2016-07-12T14:27:44 < dongs> ill dick through jvsa with a mspaint if need to 2016-07-12T14:27:53 < zyp> ok, cool 2016-07-12T14:28:05 < zyp> is this getting assembled in korea or what? who's bitching? 2016-07-12T14:28:11 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T14:29:32 < dongs> the bitching is only because stencil wasn't done together with array 2016-07-12T14:29:37 < dongs> since i let chinks do it 2016-07-12T14:30:23 < kakimir> I wonder if there is such malware like in movies that if you get physically dongle to usb port without even logging in it loads a virus 2016-07-12T14:30:39 < dongs> yes, if you run windows XP 2016-07-12T14:30:41 < dongs> with autorun on 2016-07-12T14:30:44 < dongs> loldongs.vbs 2016-07-12T14:32:31 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/would-like-hire-Electronics-Engineer-10988977/ 2016-07-12T14:32:50 < dongs> ^ attn Lux 2016-07-12T14:32:55 < dongs> err ^ attn Laurenceb 2016-07-12T14:33:38 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-07-12T14:37:47 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-12T14:40:30 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T14:49:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-12T14:51:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T14:59:26 < dongs> wtf piece of shit lost my accordion object 2016-07-12T15:00:25 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T15:12:20 < decimad> so they open-sourced the apollo sources on github... wonder when the first pull requests emerge 2016-07-12T15:17:38 < Steffanx> Already happened decimad. 2016-07-12T15:18:17 < Steffanx> Mostly typos. 2016-07-12T15:29:01 < dongs> url 2016-07-12T15:29:15 < Steffanx> Google.com 2016-07-12T15:29:20 < dongs> pshhhhhhhhhhhhhh 2016-07-12T15:30:04 < dongs> utterly useless 2016-07-12T15:30:05 < dongs> assembly 2016-07-12T15:30:07 < Steffanx> Sorry. My phone does not know the url. 2016-07-12T15:30:12 < dongs> ya found + closed 2016-07-12T15:30:16 < dongs> ohsix-class material there 2016-07-12T15:30:21 < dongs> would keep him busy for days hopeflly 2016-07-12T15:32:37 < kakimir> I need something to connect copper firmly to rods 2016-07-12T15:32:49 < kakimir> spot welding pens 2016-07-12T15:33:04 < dongs> read this as spot welding penis 2016-07-12T15:33:07 < dongs> almost approved 2016-07-12T15:43:17 < kakimir> something like yellow metal pipe 2016-07-12T15:43:34 < kakimir> with screws and plates to press cable and rodd 2016-07-12T15:43:49 < kakimir> cable connector with 2 sides 2016-07-12T15:43:57 < kakimir> extension connector? 2016-07-12T15:47:26 < Laurenceb__> Can't manglo the Anglo. 2016-07-12T15:47:35 < Laurenceb__> Can't shiton the Briton. 2016-07-12T15:47:42 < Laurenceb__> Can't squelch the Welsh. 2016-07-12T15:47:51 < Laurenceb__> Can't botch the Scotch. 2016-07-12T15:48:24 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-07-12T16:01:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-12T16:02:40 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-12T16:03:03 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T16:05:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T16:09:30 < kakimir> inportant part ordered 2016-07-12T16:09:32 < kakimir> pedal 2016-07-12T16:12:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T16:13:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-12T16:13:45 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T16:22:23 < kakimir> what is interesting in glider planes here that gauges are in metric units 2016-07-12T16:24:29 < kakimir> km/h, m/s, m 2016-07-12T16:24:54 < kakimir> and motor planes are in knots, feets and shiet 2016-07-12T16:26:19 < kakimir> I wonder if there is communication code that you should only use one unit 2016-07-12T16:27:14 < dongs> https://www.facebook.com/remindersdaily/photos/a.726468527475022.1073741827.726428514145690/929753293813210/?type=3&theater retweeting facebook link 2016-07-12T16:28:15 < kakimir> it says fuk you mate - limited audience 2016-07-12T16:28:42 < dongs> the fuck 2016-07-12T16:28:51 < dongs> must be not available to jews 2016-07-12T16:31:22 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-12T16:31:29 < upgrdman_> LOL. i emailed the faggot that make the systemverilog/vhdl/e plugin for Eclipse asking for the license price. they "don't disclose to gmail contains. we prefer university/company correspondence." 2016-07-12T16:32:05 < dongs> sounds like he can go fuck himself 2016-07-12T16:32:20 < upgrdman_> yup 2016-07-12T16:32:28 < dongs> you should acutally reply that 2016-07-12T16:32:38 < dongs> "oh, that's too bad. I was going to buy, but now you can just GO FUCK YOURSELF 2016-07-12T16:35:17 < dongs> apparently that faecesbook is deleted or somethign 2016-07-12T16:35:25 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/25rXwLx.png here's a retweet 2016-07-12T16:37:45 < ReadError> lol, "Asianux 5" 2016-07-12T16:37:52 < ReadError> some lunix made for asains? 2016-07-12T16:37:59 < dongs> dude, ancient 2016-07-12T16:38:04 < ReadError> new2me 2016-07-12T16:38:05 < dongs> i think its a redhat with s/redhat/asianux 2016-07-12T16:38:11 < ReadError> yea looks likeit 2016-07-12T16:38:13 < ReadError> versioning wise 2016-07-12T16:38:14 < dongs> cuz thats a hip thing to do 2016-07-12T16:38:52 < dongs> such trash 2016-07-12T16:39:01 < dongs> why the fuck would someone want unsupported lunix trash anyway 2016-07-12T16:39:07 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-12T16:39:09 < ReadError> do you still run LFN? 2016-07-12T16:39:10 < dongs> i mean current shit is unsupported bad enough 2016-07-12T16:39:19 < dongs> lunix for niggers? 2016-07-12T16:39:21 < ReadError> ya 2016-07-12T16:39:37 < dongs> well, ... 2016-07-12T16:39:48 < dongs> Comparisons have been drawn between Asianux and United Linux, an attempt by SUSE, Turbolinux, Conectiva and the SCO Group to take on Red Hat Enterprise Linux. 2016-07-12T16:39:59 < dongs> An earlier release version of Asianux was 2.0 (August 31, 2005), which was based upon Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 2016-07-12T16:40:07 < dongs> > attempt to take on rhel 2016-07-12T16:40:09 < dongs> > based on rhel 2016-07-12T16:40:25 < dongs> whatever, faggotry anyway. 2016-07-12T16:40:37 < dongs> back to routing 2016-07-12T16:42:15 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T16:52:35 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T16:56:53 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-12T17:08:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-174.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T17:10:19 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T17:15:21 -!- talsit_ [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T17:15:43 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-12T17:15:44 -!- talsit_ is now known as talsit 2016-07-12T17:16:00 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-12T17:16:16 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T17:17:24 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T17:29:38 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0sEKu-GYqEw 2016-07-12T17:34:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-07-12T17:35:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T17:47:19 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T18:01:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-12T18:10:32 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-12T18:41:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T18:45:31 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T18:47:28 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/TpcKO2W 2016-07-12T18:48:41 < dongs> The last link has been flagged by IRC NANNY as "Possibly Unsuitable". Please find your parent(s) first and have them check the content before opening. [this channel protected by IrCNaNNY by SafeSoft v1.0b] 2016-07-12T18:49:50 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/6nrm4Ee.jpg 2016-07-12T18:50:30 < Laurenceb> muh latex is broken 2016-07-12T18:50:42 < Laurenceb> ! LaTeX Error: File `harvard.sty' not found. 2016-07-12T18:50:58 < Laurenceb> so dumb it can't get in to Harvard 2016-07-12T18:52:01 < emeb> maybe it just can't afford it? 2016-07-12T18:52:26 < Laurenceb> probably 2016-07-12T18:54:18 < dongs> why arent you using winword.exe 2016-07-12T19:00:40 < Steffanx> Modern wordpad.exe aint that bad either. 2016-07-12T19:04:16 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T19:04:35 < ReadError> hmm 512GB samsung 850 PRO for 199$ 2016-07-12T19:06:07 < englishman> Laurenceb: cuz youre spelling it wrong 2016-07-12T19:06:09 < englishman> LaTeΧ 2016-07-12T19:06:45 < Rob235> ReadError: I paid $350 for mine 2016-07-12T19:07:22 < ReadError> the 256 is like 99 2016-07-12T19:07:30 < Rob235> I got it December 2014 2016-07-12T19:08:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-12T19:09:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T19:11:02 < Rob235> apple uses samsung ssd's now right? 2016-07-12T19:12:07 < Steffanx> My apple does. 2016-07-12T19:12:28 < Rob235> I have a 1TB in my mbp but not sure what kind 2016-07-12T19:12:54 < dongs> fagbook owners usually don't 2016-07-12T19:12:54 < Steffanx> 1tb ssd? 2016-07-12T19:12:58 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-12T19:13:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T19:13:27 < Rob235> dongs why bother talking... everything out of your mouth is negative. It's not my fault you are miserable 2016-07-12T19:13:59 < aandrew> it's almost always samsung 2016-07-12T19:14:18 < Steffanx> Hah rob235. True, but after a while you'll learn to ignore it. 2016-07-12T19:15:46 < Rob235> I ignored it fine when it wasn't directed at me, but ever since I mentioned how his stupid paste about being off topic is retarded because everyone talks off topic all the time, he just says stupid shit 2016-07-12T19:15:55 < aandrew> dongs: you owuldn't happen to have a copy/crack for percepio tracealyzer for ARM would you? 2016-07-12T19:15:57 < Laurenceb> wow LaTex 2016-07-12T19:16:05 < Laurenceb> could they make it any harder to install 2016-07-12T19:16:35 < dongs> aandrew: nope, dont even know wat it is 2016-07-12T19:16:52 < dongs> is it just ITM data parser? 2016-07-12T19:16:55 < Steffanx> You will also learn to avoid the trigger words rob235 :P 2016-07-12T19:17:09 < aandrew> dongs: yeah with some interesting visualization tools 2016-07-12T19:17:27 < dongs> fuckin swedes 2016-07-12T19:17:32 < dongs> anway yea never heard of it sry 2016-07-12T19:17:38 < dongs> doesnt look like something i'd need anytime soon either 2016-07-12T19:17:39 < Laurenceb> sweden yes 2016-07-12T19:17:41 < dongs> so probly not worth looking at 2016-07-12T19:17:43 < aandrew> I think that there are some open source trace tools too 2016-07-12T19:17:53 < dongs> supports LUNIX 2016-07-12T19:17:57 < dongs> page closed 2016-07-12T19:18:06 < dongs> I just ate like 1 liter of applesauce 2016-07-12T19:18:09 < dongs> dying 2016-07-12T19:18:10 < dongs> bbl 2016-07-12T19:18:36 < Rob235> :-D 2016-07-12T19:18:43 < Steffanx> Can't you eat those sticky rice balls and die? 2016-07-12T19:18:57 < Steffanx> Jappies tend to do that right? 2016-07-12T19:19:10 < englishman> asking for warez in ##stm32, classy 2016-07-12T19:19:42 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o englishman] by ChanServ 2016-07-12T19:19:42 < aandrew> isn't natto more your thing? 2016-07-12T19:20:28 < Steffanx> What's that? Looks awful 2016-07-12T19:20:38 -!- Laurenceb was kicked from ##stm32 by englishman [not funny Laurenceb] 2016-07-12T19:20:49 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o englishman] by ChanServ 2016-07-12T19:21:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T19:21:49 < englishman> thanks Steffanx for that little taste of godliness 2016-07-12T19:22:00 < Steffanx> Who says it was me? 2016-07-12T19:22:03 < englishman> i abused it to the fullest 2016-07-12T19:24:17 < Steffanx> there are more with powers like me, i think. 2016-07-12T19:24:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-13-110-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T19:24:53 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T19:25:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-07-12T19:26:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T19:30:06 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-07-12T19:30:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T19:32:02 < englishman> chanserv tells all 2016-07-12T19:32:13 < Steffanx> oh does it tell you? 2016-07-12T19:32:39 < Laurenceb> not ffunny englishman 2016-07-12T19:33:02 < Laurenceb> #triggered 2016-07-12T19:35:55 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-12T19:42:28 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1468301458151.png 2016-07-12T19:43:02 < englishman> /kick Laurenceb not funny Laurenceb 2016-07-12T19:43:07 < Thorn> http://i.imgur.com/VbENRgE.jpg 2016-07-12T19:43:16 < englishman> where is the em:drive trolling 2016-07-12T19:43:21 < englishman> that is legitimately funny 2016-07-12T19:43:30 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o englishman] by ChanServ 2016-07-12T19:43:35 < Laurenceb> apparently even edrive gave up 2016-07-12T19:43:45 < Laurenceb> they realise its fake now 2016-07-12T19:43:47 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o englishman] by ChanServ 2016-07-12T19:43:56 < englishman> even the old english man 2016-07-12T19:44:03 < Laurenceb> since when is english man ops 2016-07-12T19:44:11 < Laurenceb> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/ 2016-07-12T19:44:16 < englishman> i have had the taste of power 2016-07-12T19:44:17 < Laurenceb> NULL 2016-07-12T19:44:35 < englishman> huh since when does reddit have two columns 2016-07-12T19:45:30 < englishman> While you celebrate, your readership should know that Kurt's design was a cylindrical, non-tapered cavity. Legitimate followers of EmDrive (which you are not) should understand this is a big difference. 2016-07-12T19:45:53 < englishman> every one of these guys is also an audiophile 2016-07-12T19:46:15 < Laurenceb> probably 2016-07-12T19:46:32 < Laurenceb> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/4qh1nm/em_drive_safe_spaces/ 2016-07-12T19:46:35 < Laurenceb> my safe space 2016-07-12T20:22:55 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T20:26:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T20:26:51 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-12T20:33:27 < karlp> wow, pycharm/intellij do _not_ appreciate having an external process create 100k files in a directory it considers source, then have htem move to a subdirectory one by one. 2016-07-12T20:33:31 < karlp> index churn of doom 2016-07-12T20:39:14 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T20:53:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-12T20:55:38 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T20:59:01 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-12T20:59:31 < Rob235> nice, dna200 came in 2016-07-12T20:59:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T21:01:39 < Steffanx> do i want to know what that is ? 2016-07-12T21:01:50 < Steffanx> skip the trigger words, skip them! 2016-07-12T21:01:54 < Rob235> heh 2016-07-12T21:02:11 < Rob235> VAPE! 2016-07-12T21:02:32 < Steffanx> level subohming? 2016-07-12T21:02:45 < Sync> zeroohming 2016-07-12T21:03:52 < Rob235> the dna200 is basically all you need to build a vape, attach battery and tank connector and put in a case. I want to try to attach an stm32 to the usb port and read info and create a touch screen vape instead of using the 0.91" oled it comes with 2016-07-12T21:05:44 < Steffanx> you probably host for that so.. not sure if that usb part will work 2016-07-12T21:06:51 < Rob235> probably, like I said i know nothing about usb yet but thought id try something 2016-07-12T21:07:12 < kakimir> there is subohmin events everywhere 2016-07-12T21:07:28 < Steffanx> even in the sky while gliding? 2016-07-12T21:07:40 < Rob235> I could read the info being sent to the display and interpret it but that sounds horrible 2016-07-12T21:07:52 < kakimir> Steffanx: would be actually nice 2016-07-12T21:08:06 < Steffanx> dont tell me you also vape mr kakimir 2016-07-12T21:08:18 < kakimir> I do not 2016-07-12T21:08:23 < kakimir> because poor 2016-07-12T21:08:37 < Rob235> do you smoke cigs? 2016-07-12T21:08:48 < Steffanx> don't tell me you're poor and still do the gliding lessons kakimir 2016-07-12T21:08:54 < kakimir> not anymore because rock bottom happend 2016-07-12T21:09:05 < Rob235> ahh ok, I was gonna say, vaping is so much cheaper than cigs 2016-07-12T21:09:47 < kakimir> while gliding it would be nice 2016-07-12T21:10:14 < emeryth> just make the display show a blinking "I VAPE" 2016-07-12T21:10:43 < Rob235> that sounds like a productive use of time :) 2016-07-12T21:11:13 < Rob235> I'm wondering if this 900mAh 3s lipo will be enough... 900 is kinda small 2016-07-12T21:12:13 < kakimir> why not make clouds while you fly in clouds 2016-07-12T21:12:46 < kakimir> I think vaping requires instrument flight permission 2016-07-12T21:13:03 < kakimir> because flying in cloud 2016-07-12T21:13:29 < Sync> which is also illegal in a glider 2016-07-12T21:13:43 < kakimir> vape? 2016-07-12T21:14:04 < Sync> no 2016-07-12T21:14:09 < Sync> flying in the clouds 2016-07-12T21:14:15 < ReadError> oh wow 2016-07-12T21:14:21 < ReadError> mr robot is out early 2016-07-12T21:14:23 < kakimir> nope.exe 2016-07-12T21:14:39 < Rob235> ReadError: leaked? 2016-07-12T21:14:49 < ReadError> https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/10/mr-robot-season-2_0/ 2016-07-12T21:14:57 < ReadError> but webrips are up 2016-07-12T21:15:11 < kakimir> you need instrument flight r... whatever to soar in cloud 2016-07-12T21:15:14 < ReadError> im almost 2 days late too 2016-07-12T21:15:50 < kakimir> gyro in glider is just sucky 2016-07-12T21:16:10 < kakimir> some lines and a ball too 2016-07-12T21:16:14 < Rob235> I got my gf to finally start watching mr robot, we are only on episode 4 or 5 so I'm not gonna watch s2 until she catches up 2016-07-12T21:16:34 < kakimir> away> 2016-07-12T21:16:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-13-110-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-12T21:20:26 < Rob235> hmm how do you install numpy 32 bit? 2016-07-12T21:21:31 < Rob235> think I found it 2016-07-12T21:24:45 < Rob235> goooood 2016-07-12T21:28:29 < Rob235> excellent, everything is working now 2016-07-12T21:30:43 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T21:33:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T21:41:26 < c10ud> Rob235, which lipos? 2016-07-12T21:42:49 < Rob235> I just got the one they recommended because I know it will fit in standard cases, its a fullymax 3s 900mah 30c lipo 2016-07-12T21:43:09 < c10ud> how much? 2016-07-12T21:43:23 < Rob235> 18 I think 2016-07-12T21:43:33 < c10ud> $? 2016-07-12T21:43:35 < c10ud> aw 2016-07-12T21:43:37 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-12T21:45:45 < Rob235> http://www.protovapor.com/product/fullymax-11-1v-3s-900mah-30c-lithium-polymer-battery-pack/ 2016-07-12T21:59:00 < Steffanx> pro-to-vaper :P 2016-07-12T21:59:54 < Steffanx> hello mr crt 2016-07-12T21:59:56 < Steffanx> how is your life 2016-07-12T22:01:05 < englishman> vape tech 2016-07-12T22:01:11 < englishman> for vape tricks 2016-07-12T22:01:26 < englishman> youd better be there to service him 2016-07-12T22:01:58 < englishman> could say something about taking food out of the mouths of hard working couriers, or something 2016-07-12T22:03:49 < englishman> time to stm32 up in here 2016-07-12T22:05:42 < Steffanx> are you into fibre and 10gbe ethernet mr crt? 2016-07-12T22:06:44 < Steffanx> ok. 2016-07-12T22:07:51 < Steffanx> me neither and i needed to know something 2016-07-12T22:07:59 < Steffanx> and i still do 2016-07-12T22:08:51 < Steffanx> i wondered if this is the stuff http://www.allekabels.nl/lc-glasvezelkabel/6257/1375161/glasvezel-kabel-lc-naar-lc-om3.html 2016-07-12T22:08:57 < Steffanx> one needs for https://www.finisar.com/optical-transceivers/ftlx8574d3bcl-0 2016-07-12T22:14:02 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vrsqr63z0l6hi.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T22:14:08 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vrsqr63z0l6hi.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T22:16:44 < Rob235> how would you graph accelerometer data? have a barchart with a bar for each axis, or maybe a 3d plot with a vector representation? hmmm 2016-07-12T22:24:30 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-12T22:29:06 < jpa-> Rob235: for raw accelerometer data, i'd just use a line chart with x-axis as time and three separate lines 2016-07-12T22:29:39 < jpa-> for results from e.g. AHRS, showing the actual object on the screen rotated to respective orientation is quite intuitive 2016-07-12T22:30:00 < Rob235> yea, I wasn't sure I wanted to show it over time, I was thinking just current values and just have a line vector in 3d for each of the sensors (gyro/accel/mag) 2016-07-12T22:30:11 < Rob235> but I'll have to think about that 2016-07-12T22:30:40 < jpa-> showing immediate value for gyro atleast sounds pretty confusing, but i guess this is just for debugging or demonstration? 2016-07-12T22:31:10 < Rob235> yea, just want to make a python dashboard that shows all variables in cool way for debugging purposes 2016-07-12T22:31:41 < Rob235> but maybe I will just rotate an object and forget raw values 2016-07-12T22:32:05 < Rob235> like I said, i'll think about it and leave it for last 2016-07-12T22:44:45 < jpa-> for debugging, most useful is to be able to capture data that you can then run through the algorithms on PC 2016-07-12T22:45:54 < Rob235> ehh I'm having fun learning this python/matplotlib stuff, I'll mess around with it some more and see what I come up with, it should be good at visualizing what I want 2016-07-12T22:46:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-12T22:46:42 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T23:14:55 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T23:15:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-13-110-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T23:16:57 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-12T23:20:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-13-110-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-12T23:29:33 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rblrosdokbppqtvh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-12T23:45:14 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-12T23:49:57 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-12T23:55:19 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hsxyrihayaogsrtq] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-12T23:55:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-12T23:59:47 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aede9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Wed Jul 13 2016 2016-07-13T00:03:01 < Shavik> I'm having troubles understanding the differences between USB Audio Class's Formats 1 and 3. 2016-07-13T00:03:26 < Shavik> I'm looking for PCM audio. Looks like Type 1 would be what I want but it seems Type 3 is for PCM as well? Maybe I'm misreading 2016-07-13T00:10:37 < aandrew> hm, has anyone used the cube's CDC library to *receive* data from a pc? I can send all day long, but when I receive a char I get a callback for only the first character, then nothing more 2016-07-13T00:10:46 < aandrew> I'm returning USBD_OK jso that shouldn't be an issue 2016-07-13T00:13:55 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-13T00:30:27 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T00:30:28 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T00:31:01 -!- albru124 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-13T00:31:06 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T00:43:52 < Rob235> are there any good serial libraries for stm32f4? I wrote a shitty one but don't feel like making it work well 2016-07-13T00:46:33 < Rob235> actually I think it's fine, just have to limit its speed....maybe i'll fix it up later 2016-07-13T00:49:56 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/gallery/C4LkpI4 2016-07-13T00:52:03 < Rob235> i mean like to send to a usb/serial adapter to read the debug data in a terminal 2016-07-13T01:02:13 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/4qe25x/rspacex_ask_anything_thread_july_2016_22/d58w3qk 2016-07-13T01:02:18 < Laurenceb__> labview confirmed 2016-07-13T01:03:17 < Sync> > MVC4 2016-07-13T01:03:21 < Laurenceb__> They leverage C#/MVC4/EF/SQL; Javascript/Knockout/Handlebars/LESS/etc and a super sexy REST API. 2016-07-13T01:03:28 < Laurenceb__> yeah super sexy 2016-07-13T01:03:42 < Laurenceb__> this is the reason we arent on mars already 2016-07-13T01:03:50 < Laurenceb__> people wasting time of bullshit 2016-07-13T01:03:53 < Laurenceb__> *on 2016-07-13T01:04:01 < Sync> wtf 2016-07-13T01:04:16 < Sync> they seriously run their ground stuff in labview?! 2016-07-13T01:04:21 < Sync> what a bunch of cokeheads 2016-07-13T01:04:22 < Laurenceb__> apparently 2016-07-13T01:04:24 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-07-13T01:04:29 < Laurenceb__> who cares it works 2016-07-13T01:04:43 < Laurenceb__> that seems more sensible than all that web shit 2016-07-13T01:04:46 < Sync> that is almost like doing controls in dspace/labview/simulink 2016-07-13T01:04:57 < Sync> it's great for testing but not for performance 2016-07-13T01:05:15 < Laurenceb__> I guess there is the NSA/Mossad haxoring thing 2016-07-13T01:05:44 < Laurenceb__> its used in chemical industry a lot 2016-07-13T01:05:59 < Laurenceb__> ground support hardware is pretty similar 2016-07-13T01:06:02 < Sync> well 2016-07-13T01:06:09 < Sync> it is only popular because it is graphical 2016-07-13T01:06:25 < Sync> so even the most shitty indian PhD student can click his stuff together 2016-07-13T01:06:34 < Laurenceb__> yeah and it gets overcomplex and nasty very quickly 2016-07-13T01:06:53 < Laurenceb__> literal spaghetti 2016-07-13T01:07:41 < Sync> idk 2016-07-13T01:08:28 < Sync> we got like a 200% performance boost replacing the matlab/simulink shits in one application with an application written in C 2016-07-13T01:08:35 < Laurenceb__> sounds about right 2016-07-13T01:08:59 < Laurenceb__> spacex also use real time linux on powerpc for most of their control stuff... 2016-07-13T01:09:12 < Sync> well that sounds half decent 2016-07-13T01:09:19 < Sync> but it is 2016, so why ppc? 2016-07-13T01:09:27 < Sync> (probably because space qualfied) 2016-07-13T01:09:30 < Laurenceb__> cuz industrial rated I guess 2016-07-13T01:09:45 < Laurenceb__> aiui they use industrial stuff rather than space rated 2016-07-13T01:10:12 < Laurenceb__> but there are proper kernels like VXWorks for this 2016-07-13T01:10:30 < Sync> RTAI or preemptRT #yolo 2016-07-13T01:11:19 < rcc> http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/30/12072408/tesla-autopilot-car-crash-death-autonomous-model-s 2016-07-13T01:11:27 -!- rcc is now known as jadew 2016-07-13T01:11:32 < jadew> anyone here got a tesla? 2016-07-13T01:13:15 < Laurenceb__> seems pretty sexist to me 2016-07-13T01:13:38 < Laurenceb__> it is 2016 after all 2016-07-13T01:14:15 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-13T01:14:42 < Laurenceb__> nope they are still infected 2016-07-13T01:14:47 < Laurenceb__> you mean my LaTex? 2016-07-13T01:15:01 < Laurenceb__> ah nope its still broekn 2016-07-13T01:15:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-13T01:15:17 < Laurenceb__> but thats due to my piss poor packets 2016-07-13T01:15:17 < jadew> oh, I have a story 2016-07-13T01:15:32 < Laurenceb__> I can see the errors, "just" need to fix them 2016-07-13T01:15:56 < jadew> I was on vacation and saw a tranny at the beach that was all muscle and had a square jaw 2016-07-13T01:15:58 < jadew> and boobs 2016-07-13T01:16:05 < Laurenceb__> and you came 2016-07-13T01:16:08 < Laurenceb__> amirite? 2016-07-13T01:16:09 < jadew> and was wearing a bikini 2016-07-13T01:16:33 < jadew> Laurenceb__, couldn't, I was afraid to stare 2016-07-13T01:16:37 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-13T01:16:53 < jadew> he was massive 2016-07-13T01:16:56 < jadew> all muscle 2016-07-13T01:17:03 < Laurenceb__> too much info 2016-07-13T01:17:10 < jadew> and his boyfriend was way bigger 2016-07-13T01:17:14 < Laurenceb__> oh I thought you mean in the bikini 2016-07-13T01:17:25 < jadew> no, I couldn't spot anything there 2016-07-13T01:17:30 < jadew> my wife didn't see anything either 2016-07-13T01:17:42 < jadew> maybe he was a transexual after all 2016-07-13T01:20:40 < jadew> immagine this, but with tits and a ponytail: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8526236508_cfa9008246.jpg 2016-07-13T01:20:49 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6seIQ8rLp8 2016-07-13T01:20:55 < Laurenceb__> ok this guy is actually funny 2016-07-13T01:21:26 < Laurenceb__> yeah I "just" need to find a distro I like 2016-07-13T01:21:29 < Laurenceb__> too lazy atm 2016-07-13T01:23:10 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T01:24:00 < Laurenceb__> I accidentally the whole texlive 2016-07-13T01:30:33 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-13T01:32:07 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T01:32:16 < englishman> Laurenceb__: why not try "windows" distribution of operating system 2016-07-13T01:32:21 < englishman> its been around a long time 2016-07-13T01:32:32 < englishman> even supports modern 2016 things like usb devices, and audio 2016-07-13T01:32:50 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKVJoBGq-7g 2016-07-13T01:33:05 < ReadError> https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/blob/master/Comanche055/TVCDAPS.s#L762-L781 2016-07-13T01:33:43 < englishman> jokes on you, i dont have any friends 2016-07-13T01:33:52 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T01:34:04 < ReadError> https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/blob/master/Comanche055/WAITLIST.s#L536 2016-07-13T01:34:07 < englishman> at least, not any with working metcal 2016-07-13T01:34:08 < englishman> anymore 2016-07-13T01:34:10 < ReadError> MUCHTIME CA BIT14 # WE HAVE OVER OUR ABOUT 1.25 MINUTES 2016-07-13T01:34:39 < Laurenceb__> thats some haxor asm 2016-07-13T01:34:52 < Laurenceb__> yeah I saw it like 3 years ago 2016-07-13T01:35:07 < englishman> how did they even program in allcaps 2016-07-13T01:35:10 < englishman> must have been awful 2016-07-13T01:36:15 < ReadError> god that shit looks like such a hackjob 2016-07-13T01:36:34 < englishman> wait til you see the russian clone ~ 2016-07-13T01:36:40 < ReadError> if the pilots going up did a code review they might second guess dat shit 2016-07-13T01:37:37 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-13T01:37:43 < jadew> she's still alive 2016-07-13T01:39:09 < jadew> SUBMITTED: MARGARET H. HAMILTON DATE: 28 MAR 69 2016-07-13T01:40:38 < jadew> maybe they didn't have lower caps back then 2016-07-13T01:40:40 < Laurenceb__> did you know 2016-07-13T01:40:42 < Laurenceb__> If enough aftershocks strike the sensitive gut area of the earth, scientists warn the earth could break into two pieces. Two peaces would not only be a nightmare for life on earth, but wreak havoc on our already convoluted mailing address system. Fedex would definitely charge more to ship from North Earth to South Earth Meanwhile, stocks of Virgin Galactic have risen sharply. 2016-07-13T01:41:55 < Laurenceb__> ohsix waifu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_%28scientist%29#/media/File:Margaret_Hamilton.gif 2016-07-13T01:43:09 < jadew> ah ha! 2016-07-13T01:43:16 < jadew> she was eye candy for the rest of the team 2016-07-13T01:43:53 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-07-13T01:44:33 < jadew> hah! didn't know that 2016-07-13T01:44:34 < jadew> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Wilson 2016-07-13T01:45:15 < englishman> thats one way to get more women in programming 2016-07-13T01:45:43 < jadew> haha englishman 2016-07-13T01:46:12 < Laurenceb__> the women in programming penis guillotine 2016-07-13T01:46:17 < Laurenceb__> https://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9375139&cid=52500131 2016-07-13T01:49:21 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/R7TGWMy 2016-07-13T01:49:53 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/3YkUwPR.jpg 2016-07-13T01:52:48 < kakimir> http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/full/147097.jpg hello guise! 2016-07-13T01:53:42 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T01:56:04 < jadew> where is this "roast me" stuff happening? https://imgur.com/gallery/k9XTU 2016-07-13T01:59:29 < Laurenceb__> plebbit 2016-07-13T02:00:09 < jadew> found it 2016-07-13T02:00:31 < jadew> thanks 2016-07-13T02:01:08 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0aede9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-13T02:06:00 < aandrew> tgere we go 2016-07-13T02:06:27 < aandrew> forgot to call USBD_CDC_ReceivePacket() 2016-07-13T02:10:32 < Rob235> alright so first day with python, got my drone sending a serial packet and python reading it and plotting the data, just gotta figure out how to update the graphs... 2016-07-13T02:12:56 < aandrew> huh 2016-07-13T02:12:59 < aandrew> TIL I comment like Linus 2016-07-13T02:20:15 < Laurenceb__> sounds good ot me 2016-07-13T02:20:31 < Laurenceb__> 8chan on suicide watch 2016-07-13T02:21:31 < Laurenceb__> shrug 2016-07-13T02:21:41 < Laurenceb__> I don't have a problem with freedom of association 2016-07-13T02:22:40 < Laurenceb__> if you don't want to do business with someone, its none of my business to tell you what to do 2016-07-13T02:24:04 < Laurenceb__> already happens 2016-07-13T02:24:41 < Laurenceb__> autism6 2016-07-13T02:25:46 < Laurenceb__> I'm not getting into a politics debate with ohsix 2016-07-13T02:25:53 < Laurenceb__> I've seen that happen on here before 2016-07-13T02:31:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-13T02:41:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T02:45:18 < ReadError> whats up with all these new usb cables 2016-07-13T02:46:39 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Type-USB-C-Black/dp/B00WAKL6I8/ that style... not sure why 2016-07-13T02:47:22 < ReadError> maybe charging a phone or something off the macbook 2016-07-13T02:47:25 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:f844:34b6:dbe5:ed96] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T02:47:30 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-13T02:50:54 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-13T02:54:56 < Laurenceb__> oh shit I triggered him 2016-07-13T02:57:35 < Laurenceb__> brother dean? 2016-07-13T02:58:24 < Laurenceb__> https://deansaxton.wordpress.com/about-brother-dean/ 2016-07-13T02:59:24 < Laurenceb__> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/31/03/34C8E70300000578-3617160-image-m-61_1464662519652.jpg 2016-07-13T03:00:43 < Thorn> >While 802.15.4 is designed with meshing in mind, it is not part of the 802.15.4 standard, and left to the network layer. 2016-07-13T03:01:16 < Thorn> so this basically means that devices from different manufacturers can't be in the same mesh network? 2016-07-13T03:01:37 < Thorn> because they will implement different routing algorithms 2016-07-13T03:02:15 < Thorn> I'm mostly referring to 6lowpan 2016-07-13T03:02:47 < Rob235> blah how do you update a matplotlib graph 2016-07-13T03:04:11 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-13T03:04:42 < Thorn> the problem is it doesn't define any routing algorithms and there are a lot of them, all non-standard 2016-07-13T03:10:13 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-13T03:10:34 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T03:12:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T03:12:37 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-13T03:13:38 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:f844:34b6:dbe5:ed96] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-07-13T03:16:57 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T03:17:06 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-13T03:18:43 < Thorn> I haven't seen 802.15.5 mentioned anywhere 2016-07-13T03:21:27 < Thorn> I'm wondering if a standard stack even matters at this stage if nobody really supports it yet and you're contracted to do a custom solution 2016-07-13T03:38:26 < aandrew> lol 2016-07-13T03:38:36 < aandrew> quick get it up on github, maybe someone will fork it and implement it for us 2016-07-13T03:59:00 < Thorn> it appears that nobody currently supports even 15.4 beacon mode or FFD/RFD 2016-07-13T04:00:24 < Laurenceb__> mai waifu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYgQO5TFto 2016-07-13T04:00:44 < Laurenceb__> this is so fake 2016-07-13T04:09:01 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-13T04:12:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T04:24:04 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-13T04:24:51 < dongs> oh wow 2016-07-13T04:24:58 < dongs> i just received a sample of a kickstarter product 2016-07-13T04:25:05 < dongs> that im supposed to be helping with 2016-07-13T04:25:08 < dongs> much enginereing wow 2016-07-13T04:26:29 < ReadError> dongs you have a dixus6p? 2016-07-13T04:26:35 < dongs> hell no 2016-07-13T04:26:48 < dongs> why would i have an expensive google product 2016-07-13T04:26:51 < dongs> dixus5 was ok cuz it was cheap 2016-07-13T04:26:56 < dongs> dixus6 was priced retarded 2016-07-13T04:27:09 < ReadError> well here, for Fi 2016-07-13T04:27:41 < ReadError> they have teh 5x for like 200 for the 16, or the 6p for 400 for the 64g 2016-07-13T04:27:57 < ReadError> i dont know about android shit 2016-07-13T04:35:18 < dongs> hm pal says its 3dprinted on some stratasys gear 2016-07-13T04:35:21 < dongs> there's some really thin shit 2016-07-13T04:35:26 < dongs> almost transparent 2016-07-13T04:35:32 < dongs> yet its still looks pretty hard 2016-07-13T04:46:02 -!- diddly [~dave@blk-138-38-171.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T04:57:55 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-13T05:02:39 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-13T05:03:00 -!- O0ddity [~O0ddity@c110-20-44-227.rivrw8.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T05:07:45 < O0ddity> Is the factory bootloader on stm32s actually stored on ROM? 2016-07-13T05:09:23 < O0ddity> I guess i'm trying to ask is that bootloader diffrent from the one that the maple mini has? 2016-07-13T05:10:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-13T05:10:39 < O0ddity> Im using the usb plug that pretty much wired to the chip 2016-07-13T05:12:11 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T05:12:39 < O0ddity> Does the maple use a different "bootloader" that is stored in flash or somethign, to make it usb programmable? 2016-07-13T05:14:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-13T05:15:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-13T05:18:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T05:20:36 < O0ddity> i have maple clone board (STM32F103xB) it does go into DFU 2016-07-13T05:21:49 < O0ddity> I want to try doing some USB stuff with it. But I sorta assumed i need to deal with the fact that it seems to automaticly turn the usb port into a usb serial device 2016-07-13T05:24:18 < O0ddity> Surely the USB-Serial thing is part of the maple bootloader code? 2016-07-13T05:31:00 < dongs> perhaps 2016-07-13T05:31:28 < O0ddity> https://github.com/rogerclarkmelbourne/Arduino_STM32/wiki/Bootloader 2016-07-13T05:32:22 < O0ddity> This brief about a separately developed "bootloader v2", settlers the matter of the maple bootload lving in flash memory for sure. 2016-07-13T05:32:54 < O0ddity> "It uploads sketches to 0x8002000, thus reserving the initial 8KB of the flash memory for itself." 2016-07-13T05:34:06 < O0ddity> If only I could see the wiring for boot0/1 on this board... 2016-07-13T05:34:25 < dongs> er 2016-07-13T05:34:30 < dongs> why? 2016-07-13T05:34:43 < dongs> bootloader is at start of flash 2016-07-13T05:37:20 < O0ddity> So I can overwrite the maple bootloader? 2016-07-13T05:37:43 < O0ddity> Do I even need to? To make use of USB? I don't know... 2016-07-13T05:38:42 < O0ddity> The only thing i've managed to get this chip to do is read bitmaps of serial and draw them to a nokia lcd 2016-07-13T05:47:27 < englishman> O0ddity: iirc maple copypasted the reference st dfu project for f103 2016-07-13T05:47:32 < englishman> since no dfu on f1 2016-07-13T05:47:41 < englishman> so yeah its in flash and you can erase it 2016-07-13T05:48:39 < englishman> but: why arent you using a nucleo or discovery board with st-link for $10 2016-07-13T05:51:28 < O0ddity> Mostly because I had these lying around http://www.aliexpress.com/item/leaflabs-Leaf-maple-mini-ARM-STM32-compatibility/32229442295.html 2016-07-13T05:52:48 < dongs> its just a F103 breakout wiht USB connected 2016-07-13T05:52:51 < dongs> you can do wahtever the fuck you want with it 2016-07-13T05:53:02 < dongs> BUT you're gonna need usb>uart thing and ST Flash Loader to program shit into it 2016-07-13T05:53:07 < dongs> (and to wipe bootloader etc) 2016-07-13T05:55:00 < O0ddity> I pretty sure I have a number of usart devices; buspirate, usb -> r323 cable, some arduino board with FTDI chip on them... 2016-07-13T05:55:30 < O0ddity> and ST Flash loader is software right? 2016-07-13T05:55:39 < dongs> yeah just a thing that talks thier serial bootlaoder 2016-07-13T05:55:56 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/development-tools/software-development-tools/stm32-software-development-tools/stm32-programmers/flasher-stm32.html 2016-07-13T05:56:00 < dongs> looks like they renamed it now 2016-07-13T05:57:58 < englishman> what is the benefit of this over $10 nucleo 2016-07-13T05:58:00 < englishman> with stlink 2016-07-13T05:58:06 < englishman> so you can actually write stuff and debug 2016-07-13T05:58:14 < dongs> the benefit "i already had these" 2016-07-13T05:58:32 < englishman> right 2016-07-13T05:58:58 < englishman> so order a nucleo now, and by the time you have printf debug working it will arrive and you can get to work 2016-07-13T06:01:23 < englishman> lol its easily mistaken for a usbasp 2016-07-13T06:01:31 < dongs> what is 2016-07-13T06:01:33 < O0ddity> still plenty on aliexpress 2016-07-13T06:01:37 < englishman> dongs: o6 psot 2016-07-13T06:01:51 < dongs> things i dont see then 2016-07-13T06:01:56 < englishman> yes 2016-07-13T06:04:55 < dongs> still routing this board 2016-07-13T06:08:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T06:19:20 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T06:41:30 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-13T06:45:38 < dongs> https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/753012989679329281 2016-07-13T06:57:38 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T07:01:50 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T07:04:32 < englishman> https://i.sli.mg/OVbm80.jpg 2016-07-13T07:04:40 < englishman> i cooked this with cortex arm 2016-07-13T07:05:01 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-13T07:05:04 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-13T07:05:23 < englishman> wat 2016-07-13T07:05:25 < englishman> bbq 2016-07-13T07:05:35 < dongs> crt: too late, seems 2016-07-13T07:05:44 < dongs> i can smell the autism from here 2016-07-13T07:06:12 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-13T07:06:19 < englishman> sousvide is great if youre in the military or absolutely starving 2016-07-13T07:08:23 < englishman> i have not, i need to use it 2016-07-13T07:08:29 < dongs> shift-d is a nice altidong shortcut while routing 2016-07-13T07:09:11 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-13T07:09:13 < englishman> they forgot to put in the replacement? 2016-07-13T07:10:30 < englishman> why are they ruining all that meat 2016-07-13T07:10:48 < englishman> does it work now 2016-07-13T07:10:53 < dongs> ohsix learned all his cooking from anime 2016-07-13T07:11:13 < englishman> cant beat rice with a bit of soy sauce mmm 2016-07-13T07:11:40 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T07:11:41 < englishman> they are absolutely ruining that shit 2016-07-13T07:11:47 < englishman> using a bush burner to cook steak 2016-07-13T07:11:51 < englishman> temps way too high 2016-07-13T07:11:59 < englishman> they are just dicking around 2016-07-13T07:12:23 < englishman> maybe if you like eating hockey pucks 2016-07-13T07:12:43 < englishman> or if you just want to reheat meat to the temperature it was when it died 2016-07-13T07:14:33 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T07:14:46 < englishman> lol 2016-07-13T07:14:48 < dongs> he sure is 2016-07-13T07:15:11 < englishman> i had ops today 2016-07-13T07:15:13 < englishman> i felt good 2016-07-13T07:15:20 < dongs> ohsix, who 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go the fuck to sleep right now 2016-07-13T08:25:20 < englishman> pretty sure i bought worms2 in 8x10x2 inch retail box 2016-07-13T08:25:33 < dongs> whats the appeal of that game 2016-07-13T08:25:38 < englishman> gabe should give it to me free 2016-07-13T08:25:38 < dongs> it looks like a clone of some shitty garbage from atari days 2016-07-13T08:25:43 < englishman> in 1996 it was multiplayer 2016-07-13T08:26:03 < dongs> you mean in 1986 2016-07-13T08:26:19 < englishman> no 2016-07-13T08:26:27 < englishman> it had 640x480 gfx 2016-07-13T08:26:33 < englishman> not 80x60 2016-07-13T08:26:33 < dongs> oh. 2016-07-13T08:26:36 < dongs> hEH 2016-07-13T08:31:34 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-13T08:43:19 -!- Nutter` [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T08:44:59 -!- Nutter` is now known as Nutter 2016-07-13T08:49:50 < dongs> i have this fucking part in altidumb 2016-07-13T08:50:41 < dongs> clicking on its pads doesnt fucking work 2016-07-13T08:50:46 < dongs> 2 of the pads 2016-07-13T08:50:48 < dongs> 3rd one works 2016-07-13T08:50:54 < dongs> its not locked either. 2016-07-13T08:52:36 < dongs> k, copied/deleted/pasted and it works. 2016-07-13T08:52:50 < dongs> must haev been bugged pcblib from when i had bad ram 2016-07-13T08:54:45 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-13T08:59:30 < O0ddity> dong: That is why you use git, data integrity and verifiability 2016-07-13T09:01:40 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T09:01:59 < dongs> and easy deletion 2016-07-13T09:07:52 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T09:10:29 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-13T09:13:39 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T09:29:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T09:37:21 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/solution-evaluation-tools/computer-and-peripherals-solution-eval-boards/steval-3dp001v1.html 2016-07-13T09:37:24 < dongs> ST just spammed me this 2016-07-13T09:38:01 < dongs> fucking finally, RIP smoothieshitboard 2016-07-13T09:41:42 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T09:41:57 < Simon--> $118.75 http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=STEVAL-3DP001V1 2016-07-13T09:42:02 < dongs> yes 2016-07-13T09:42:12 < dongs> RIP overpricedsmoothieboard 2016-07-13T09:49:16 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-07-13T09:49:26 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T09:58:20 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-13T10:04:30 < dongs> https://github.com/St3dPrinter/Marlin4ST lol 2016-07-13T10:04:37 < dongs> still has #ifdef ARDUINO in there 2016-07-13T10:07:22 < emeryth> dear god, that board 2016-07-13T10:07:46 < dongs> as opposed to a clusterfuck your typical tarduino 3d printer shit is? 2016-07-13T10:08:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T10:09:54 < dongs> of course the REAL problem is that marlin/grbl/etc shit is fucking garbage 2016-07-13T10:11:15 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-13T10:13:03 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T10:21:55 < dongs> great examples of cube usage there 2016-07-13T10:42:14 < Thorn> >The Marlin4ST firmware relies on STM32Cube and integers 2016-07-13T10:42:16 < Thorn> wat 2016-07-13T10:42:26 < dongs> is that bad 2016-07-13T10:45:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-100.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T10:45:41 < upgrdman_> that stmsmoothie, theres some SMD cylidrical caps near the top, with red silkscreening on them 2016-07-13T10:45:51 < upgrdman_> does red mean like polymer? 2016-07-13T10:46:06 < dongs> maybe just made in japan pro audio caps 2016-07-13T10:46:09 < upgrdman_> normally theyre like black or blue silk iirc 2016-07-13T10:46:12 < upgrdman_> k 2016-07-13T10:46:13 < dongs> im pretty sure ive seen those caps with blue and black 2016-07-13T10:46:36 < dongs> the bom is on that site 2016-07-13T10:46:38 < dongs> you can see what tehy used 2016-07-13T10:46:49 < upgrdman_> cant be arsed, cn net is too fucking slo 2016-07-13T10:46:52 < dongs> laff 2016-07-13T10:46:56 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/bill_of_materials/group0/de/4b/d0/f1/40/64/45/57/STEVAL-3DP001V1%20BOM/files/steval-3dp001v1_bom.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.steval-3dp001v1_bom.pdf 2016-07-13T10:47:00 < dongs> small pdf 2016-07-13T10:47:26 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/wurth-electronics-inc/865080442006/732-8434-1-ND/5728391 2016-07-13T10:47:29 < dongs> just fucking wurth trash 2016-07-13T10:47:31 < dongs> nothing special 2016-07-13T10:47:47 < upgrdman_> heh, k, thx 2016-07-13T10:47:47 < dongs> general purpose 25V/33uF not even special 2016-07-13T10:48:04 < dongs> digikey is fucking with layout again 2016-07-13T10:48:08 < dongs> price shit moved to another table 2016-07-13T10:48:24 < upgrdman_> wtf. why even go electo for 33uF 2016-07-13T10:48:25 < dongs> .. they even used WURTH LEDs 2016-07-13T10:48:37 < upgrdman_> should have just use some 10uF SMD MLCCs in parallel 2016-07-13T10:48:42 < upgrdman_> prolly cheaper too 2016-07-13T10:48:45 < dongs> there's probly a reason 2016-07-13T10:52:23 < dongs> pretty sure ohsix can dispense some capacitor advice for you 2016-07-13T10:58:35 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T10:59:04 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-13T11:09:51 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-149-62.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-07-13T11:14:51 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-!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T12:08:13 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T12:10:15 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-191-236.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T12:10:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T12:15:17 < dongs> i lied about being raped, but the white male who got suspended deserved it. it was worth the trouble, because all i wanted to do was start a conversation and raise awareness 2016-07-13T12:15:42 < dongs> let's talk about STM32 motor control 2016-07-13T12:19:04 < dongs> not e ven sure yet 2016-07-13T12:26:33 < Sync> what do you want to know? 2016-07-13T12:47:32 < dongs> thats agood one 2016-07-13T12:47:44 < dongs> hm need to negro a 1.27mm pitch adapter 2016-07-13T12:57:03 < dongs> would there be a difference betrween addressing 8 and 16mbit eeprom? 2016-07-13T12:57:07 < dongs> do addresses increase? 2016-07-13T13:00:43 < PaulFertser> There's a two-byte addressing mode and a three-byte mode. I do not think you need 3-byte to address 16mbit. 2016-07-13T13:01:05 < dongs> its by pages or something right? 2016-07-13T13:01:06 < PaulFertser> s/two/three/ s/three/four/ 2016-07-13T13:01:13 < PaulFertser> dongs: talking about SPI flash? 2016-07-13T13:01:17 < dongs> ya 2016-07-13T13:01:33 < dongs> i have 16m sturff but this board needs anything from 128k to 4mbit 2016-07-13T13:01:38 < dongs> er to 8mbit 2016-07-13T13:01:44 < PaulFertser> dongs: "SPI devices with size of 128 Mb (16 MB) and below (such as N25Q128A) uses addresses that only require 3 bytes, and therefore they have one address mode: 3 byte address mode." 2016-07-13T13:01:57 < dongs> ok so up to 128mbit for same shit 2016-07-13T13:02:02 < PaulFertser> Yep 2016-07-13T13:02:07 < dongs> so if its same series shit it'll hopefully w ork 2016-07-13T13:02:14 < dongs> unless these dumbs check by chip ID 2016-07-13T13:02:31 < PaulFertser> Reading only or writing too? 2016-07-13T13:03:25 < dongs> both 2016-07-13T13:04:00 < PaulFertser> Then take care to use matching erase sector size IC. 2016-07-13T13:04:18 < dongs> hmpf. not a lot of choice here 2016-07-13T13:04:31 < dongs> but im ognna see if i have some other board i can wipe an eeprpom from thats on the list 2016-07-13T13:06:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-13T13:06:22 < dongs> blah ill just solder and find out 2016-07-13T13:10:18 < dongs> FlashErase: ACK not received from the board 2016-07-13T13:10:19 < dongs> pfft 2016-07-13T13:10:27 < dongs> Flash Manufacturer: 0x14 ID: 0x14 2016-07-13T13:10:30 < dongs> that looks wrong 2016-07-13T13:14:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-100.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-13T13:15:49 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vrsqr63z0l6hi.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-13T13:15:49 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vrsqr63z0l6hi.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-13T13:18:04 < dongs> Flash Manufacturer: 0xEF ID: 0x14 2016-07-13T13:18:04 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-13T13:18:08 < dongs> i gotta get proper flash 2016-07-13T13:18:09 < dongs> fail. 2016-07-13T13:25:07 < Chris_M> Anyone know of a reason why CCR1 (Capture/Compare 1) register can't be set to 0? 2016-07-13T13:25:19 < dongs> what would you be capturing/comparing then 2016-07-13T13:25:20 < dongs> if its zero 2016-07-13T13:26:34 < Chris_M> I've got a second timer chained to a master, but I'd like to reset CCR1 of the second timer before writing to the GPIO that will cause the capture 2016-07-13T13:29:06 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-13T13:29:56 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T13:36:53 < Chris_M> dongs, if you wanted to capture an event longer than what fits in a 16bit timer, would you just count the overflows in an interrupt and do the maths, or would you chain another timer to get a 32-bit? 2016-07-13T13:38:30 < dongs> overflows is enough 2016-07-13T13:38:44 < dongs> there's also 32bit timers.. 2016-07-13T13:39:13 < Chris_M> ya, only using an F0 though, so no luck 2016-07-13T13:41:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-100.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T13:41:29 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T13:43:57 < Chris_M> ohsix: max clock division is 4, which is stilll not enough to fit the whole event 2016-07-13T13:44:12 < Chris_M> i'll just have to count overflows 2016-07-13T13:48:16 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-13T14:03:36 < upgrdman> for external flash chips, i know erasing is per sector, but for can you like write to the first KB of an erased sector, then a week later write to the third KB of that sector, etc. or is it write to the sector just once 2016-07-13T14:03:51 < dongs> you can write as long as you're changing bits 2016-07-13T14:03:56 < dongs> from FF -> xx 2016-07-13T14:04:09 < upgrdman> cool 2016-07-13T14:04:50 < upgrdman> i do that with stm32 internal flash, but wasnt sure about an spi flash 2016-07-13T14:04:57 < qyx> it is the same 2016-07-13T14:08:59 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T14:11:38 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Create-crypto-currency/ 2016-07-13T14:12:21 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/sparkfun-board-arduino-code-porting/ 2016-07-13T14:12:24 < dongs> ez job for ohsix 2016-07-13T14:15:53 -!- O0ddity [~O0ddity@c110-20-44-227.rivrw8.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-13T14:20:29 < Laurenceb__> https://archive.is/xAMKf 2016-07-13T14:20:35 < Laurenceb__> written by ohsix 2016-07-13T14:28:18 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T14:28:51 < karlp> ReadError: usb-c <-> usb-c is the only cable you need in the future. that's why you see those cables. 2016-07-13T14:31:03 < upgrdman_> how many wires in usb c cables? 2016-07-13T14:31:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-13T14:32:09 < Laurenceb__> over 9000 2016-07-13T14:33:37 < dongs> whats readerror stoning about 2016-07-13T14:44:04 < karlp> he was wondering what on earth was the point of a usb-c-c cable. being confused by progress 2016-07-13T14:46:41 < emeryth> I'm waiting for directional audiophile usb-c cables 2016-07-13T14:47:06 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T14:48:45 < dongs> haha 2016-07-13T14:52:38 < dongs> batterybankbro got NXP WPC1.2 transmitter thingy evalboard 2016-07-13T14:53:08 < dongs> http://www.nxp.com/products/power-management/wireless-power-transmitters/one-chip-5-v-qi-wireless-transmitter:NXQ1TXH5 2016-07-13T14:55:46 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T14:58:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-13T14:59:22 < dongs> Sync: http://i.imgur.com/ZmetI4C.jpg 2016-07-13T15:04:38 < dongs> you are correct 2016-07-13T15:06:38 < BrainDamage> the connectors look weird, so little insulatiion from the chassis, i'd be afraid to accidentally short things 2016-07-13T15:06:57 < dongs> that entire black plate behidn them is insulation 2016-07-13T15:07:01 < dongs> kinda shiny 2016-07-13T15:07:04 < dongs> with letters 2016-07-13T15:07:05 < BrainDamage> ah ok 2016-07-13T15:13:48 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-13T15:14:01 < dongs> oh NICE 2016-07-13T15:14:03 < dongs> jcsat2B is live 2016-07-13T15:14:19 < dongs> they got a test card going 2016-07-13T15:16:07 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T15:18:54 < Laurenceb__> whats that chassi thing for? 2016-07-13T15:19:00 < dongs> < crt> i see you purchased that active load 2016-07-13T15:19:02 < dongs> Laurenceb__: ^ 2016-07-13T15:19:15 < Laurenceb__> thats all? 2016-07-13T15:19:23 < Laurenceb__> what for? 2016-07-13T15:19:31 < dongs> loadingthings 2016-07-13T15:19:34 < dongs> instead of sand resistors 2016-07-13T15:19:49 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-07-13T15:22:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T15:34:56 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T15:38:06 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-13T15:40:30 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-13T15:46:39 < Sync> ah, can you do boardshots dongs? 2016-07-13T15:48:57 < Steffanx> Left. 2016-07-13T16:00:46 < Steffanx> Huj. 2016-07-13T16:02:16 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-13T16:03:28 < Steffanx> Hi pronounced like huj 2016-07-13T16:04:28 < upgrdman__> like fudge? 2016-07-13T16:04:46 < upgrdman__> huj packers 2016-07-13T16:05:30 < PaulFertser> Russians would read huj as "khooy" and that is a very tabooed word meaning dick. 2016-07-13T16:05:45 < dongs> gongs 2016-07-13T16:05:50 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T16:05:55 < dongs> Sync: sup? 2016-07-13T16:06:08 < Steffanx> Lol paul 2016-07-13T16:06:29 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T16:06:44 < dongs> Lol paul more like Ron Paul 2016-07-13T16:11:12 < Sync> dongs: I wanna see how they built it internally 2016-07-13T16:11:16 < Sync> possibly what fet they used 2016-07-13T16:11:16 < dongs> ah 2016-07-13T16:11:37 < Tectu> sup o/ 2016-07-13T16:11:59 < dongs> sync, will consider, but probly after its done being used 2016-07-13T16:12:17 < Sync> pfft 2016-07-13T16:12:26 < Sync> you can send it to me after it is done being used ;) 2016-07-13T16:13:29 < upgrdman__> should be like mikeselectricstuff, just use a uncoiled spool of magnet wire submerged in a trash can full of water. cheap high power dummy load. 2016-07-13T16:13:58 < Sync> but bad for doing load changes 2016-07-13T16:14:35 < upgrdman__> minor technicality 2016-07-13T16:16:46 < Tectu> you just add or remove iron filings to the water 2016-07-13T16:28:27 < dongs> http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-datwyler-acquisition-idUKKCN0Z00HW lol wut 2016-07-13T16:31:07 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/n01X2Nt.png 2016-07-13T16:34:10 < Sync> hmm 2016-07-13T16:38:47 < dongs> Restricted Availability 2016-07-13T16:38:48 < dongs> Due to US Government export regulations, Mouser is unable to sell this product in your country. 2016-07-13T16:39:19 < Ultrasauce> breaking into the icbm market next? 2016-07-13T16:39:39 < dongs> yes 2016-07-13T16:39:47 < Sync> dongs: can you poke the jap AMP department in the eye? 2016-07-13T16:39:58 < dongs> AMP? 2016-07-13T16:39:59 < Sync> multilock 040 != multilock 040 2016-07-13T16:40:01 < Sync> amphenol 2016-07-13T16:40:01 < dongs> like switches or osmeshit? 2016-07-13T16:40:03 < dongs> ah 2016-07-13T16:40:39 < dongs> englishman: do you get free shipping on mouser 2016-07-13T16:40:41 < dongs> because you're international 2016-07-13T16:40:52 < Ultrasauce> yeah we do for orders >$200 iirc 2016-07-13T16:40:55 < dongs> hm 2016-07-13T16:40:58 < dongs> i need a $120 thing 2016-07-13T16:41:19 < dongs> that 3dprinter thing 2016-07-13T16:41:32 < englishman> don't think so, they're jews 2016-07-13T16:41:32 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/solution-evaluation-tools/computer-and-peripherals-solution-eval-boards/steval-3dp001v1.html 2016-07-13T16:41:39 < englishman> digikey is way better 2016-07-13T16:41:49 < dongs> but digikey takes real money 2016-07-13T16:41:58 < englishman> doesn't matter since I went legit 2016-07-13T16:42:33 < englishman> digicrap also has shit in stock usually 2016-07-13T16:42:44 < Ultrasauce> oh shit that's neat 2016-07-13T16:43:04 < dongs> digiJEW wont sell that to me either 2016-07-13T16:43:10 < dongs> EAR'd 2016-07-13T16:43:17 < dongs> i wonder why? the fucking crypto on that shitty F401? 2016-07-13T16:43:18 < dongs> or the wifi 2016-07-13T16:44:16 < Sync> probably the wifi 2016-07-13T16:44:31 < qyx> because you will certainly print weapons with it 2016-07-13T16:45:17 < dongs> so i got this $2k chrontel evalboard (which totally isn't worth $2k but meh) and it doesnt even do anything when powered on 2016-07-13T16:45:31 < dongs> at least most of the "evaluation" boards I've seen attempt to do something useful on power on 2016-07-13T16:46:51 < Sync> ye 2016-07-13T16:47:06 < Ultrasauce> useful or at least obnoxious 2016-07-13T16:49:35 < englishman> is it true jap camera phones all need to make a clicky sound to prevent upskirts 2016-07-13T16:49:52 < dongs> yes 2016-07-13T16:50:57 < englishman> lol japs. 2016-07-13T16:51:37 < Sync> same in germoney 2016-07-13T16:52:46 < englishman> How are you going to take an up skirt of leather pants tho. 2016-07-13T16:56:19 < dongs> germans are more into scat than upskirts 2016-07-13T16:57:39 < Tectu> the fuck did I just read 2016-07-13T16:58:01 < Tectu> englishman, that applies to swissland too 2016-07-13T17:00:07 < BrainDamage> eu not just switzerland 2016-07-13T17:00:28 < BrainDamage> but i'm not 100% sure it's mandatory 2016-07-13T17:00:38 < BrainDamage> because i've had official roms where you could just turn it off 2016-07-13T17:01:21 < Tectu> dongs, you know USB magic quite well, right? 2016-07-13T17:01:38 < Tectu> what's like the max. length of a USB 3 cable so you can still get the theoretic 5 Gbps? 2016-07-13T17:01:51 < dongs> whatever the spec says, im gonna guesss a few meters 2016-07-13T17:02:23 < Tectu> so let's assume specs say 5m. if I put a proper USB 3.0 hub in between that, am I still okay? 2016-07-13T17:02:34 < Tectu> I mean for 10m 2016-07-13T17:02:37 < Sync> BrainDamage: it is mandatory in germoney 2016-07-13T17:02:54 < dongs> yeah, there's probably active redriver/reclocking cables 2016-07-13T17:02:59 < dongs> just read the spec 2016-07-13T17:03:04 < Tectu> thanks! 2016-07-13T17:08:19 < Tectu> cu folks 2016-07-13T17:08:22 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-13T17:10:28 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-13T17:16:58 < Sync> wat. 2016-07-13T17:17:13 < Sync> just got an order for a few 1200 baud modems 2016-07-13T17:18:48 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-13T17:19:03 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T17:24:17 < Laurenceb> ohsix spotted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc 2016-07-13T17:25:39 < dongs> so old, it has 88 million views 2016-07-13T17:25:46 < Laurenceb> 88 2016-07-13T17:29:06 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1468407272424.png 2016-07-13T17:31:11 < jpa-> if it's "Most Trump supporters" and there are approx 50% of those, then atleast 25% of people in USA are anime-wankers? 2016-07-13T17:34:02 < Laurenceb> >not realising its a troll 2016-07-13T17:34:52 < BrainDamage> it's also the portrait of the average 4chan user 2016-07-13T17:40:39 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-13T17:48:10 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T17:57:00 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-13T17:57:19 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T17:59:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-100.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-13T18:14:24 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-13T18:14:35 < Laurenceb> this is some high end camwhoring https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YGYgQO5TFto 2016-07-13T18:14:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-13T18:22:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-13T18:31:28 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-13T18:34:59 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=072_1468422245 2016-07-13T18:40:11 < Sync> wat 2016-07-13T18:41:15 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=37a_1468419674 2016-07-13T18:41:22 < Laurenceb> nsfw 2016-07-13T18:51:26 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T18:58:41 < aandrew> jesus Laurenceb 2016-07-13T18:59:33 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hsxyrihayaogsrtq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-13T19:04:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:08:38 < Rob235> I need a stm32 device, as small as possible, maybe a teensy? with usb host, what are my options? 2016-07-13T19:08:50 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:10:07 < Rob235> or could I use an otg cable? 2016-07-13T19:11:47 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:13:27 < Rob235> decoding this usb serial packet is going to be a pain too 2016-07-13T19:16:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-13T19:22:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:23:50 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-13T19:24:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-13T19:25:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-13T19:25:47 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:28:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:32:42 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-13T19:38:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:39:47 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:39:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-13T19:42:13 < zyp> Rob235, you need one of the otg-capable chips 2016-07-13T19:42:31 < Rob235> ok cool, any recommendations? 2016-07-13T19:42:32 < zyp> f405 is probably the most likely candidate 2016-07-13T19:42:40 < Rob235> thanks i'll check it out 2016-07-13T19:43:44 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:44:16 < Rob235> 2x USB OTG (one with HS support) what is HS? 2016-07-13T19:44:38 < Thorn> high speed 2016-07-13T19:44:44 < Rob235> ahh heh 2016-07-13T19:44:47 < Thorn> 480Mbps 2016-07-13T19:45:10 < Rob235> speed is definitely not necessary for this application 2016-07-13T19:45:20 < Rob235> so are there any tiny f405 boards? 2016-07-13T19:45:54 < Laurenceb> https://xkcd.com/1400/ 2016-07-13T19:46:04 < Laurenceb> actual relevant xkcd 2016-07-13T19:46:37 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:47:27 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-13T19:52:45 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T19:55:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T20:04:30 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-13T20:05:01 -!- Nutter [~hehe@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:f62c:b508:6f00] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T20:07:40 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-13T20:07:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T20:25:44 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T20:32:59 < karlp> ah joys, checkout old tag in reviewion tree, doesn't build. 2016-07-13T20:33:06 < karlp> fix the build. board crashes. 2016-07-13T20:34:09 -!- sykemyke [syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T20:35:15 -!- sykemyke is now known as syke 2016-07-13T20:39:18 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T20:46:30 < aandrew> which STM32 has 480Mbps USB2?? 2016-07-13T20:46:33 < aandrew> none that I'm aware of 2016-07-13T20:46:44 < karlp> f4. 2016-07-13T20:46:46 < aandrew> no 2016-07-13T20:46:53 < karlp> yes. needs a ULPI phy though 2016-07-13T20:46:58 < karlp> but there's a HS capable core 2016-07-13T20:46:59 < aandrew> ah with external PHY 2016-07-13T20:47:02 < aandrew> gotcha 2016-07-13T20:47:17 < aandrew> was going to say the only chip I know that actually does do 480Mbps is the FX2LP 2016-07-13T20:47:18 < karlp> f3 too probably, f7 now, 2016-07-13T20:47:30 < karlp> there's a tiva part with onboard phy iirc 2016-07-13T20:47:31 < aandrew> I've used the FX3 in a few designs 2016-07-13T20:47:35 < karlp> but tiva -> no-one uses it. 2016-07-13T20:55:39 < zyp> NXP got some with builtin HS phy 2016-07-13T20:55:49 < zyp> LPC18xx and 43xx 2016-07-13T20:56:12 < zyp> IIRC they got two cores, which are both HS capable, but only one have a builtin HS phy 2016-07-13T21:01:31 < karlp> heh. well done self. submodule back in time references a tree that no longer exists. 2016-07-13T21:01:35 < karlp> good fucking job 2016-07-13T21:02:16 < Steffanx> and who you blame for that? The tree owner or the one that submoduled it? 2016-07-13T21:02:25 < karlp> it's me on both sides. 2016-07-13T21:02:33 < karlp> it's all me. all the blame, all the time. 2016-07-13T21:02:36 < zyp> that's a pitfall with submodules, unfortunately 2016-07-13T21:02:57 < Steffanx> hah ok, karlp :P 2016-07-13T21:04:15 < zyp> largest risk is submodules refering to temporary branches that disappear when rebased 2016-07-13T21:04:47 < karlp> yeah, it was meant to be a stable branch, but I must have rebased it at some point by accident. 2016-07-13T21:05:00 < karlp> so.. joy. 2016-07-13T21:05:05 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-13T21:05:17 < karlp> I was 99% sure I'd gotten a 50% power savin by just using WFE in an old tree, 2016-07-13T21:05:25 < zyp> a good practice to avoid it could be to only commit submodule references to stuff that's pushed/published 2016-07-13T21:05:36 < karlp> went back to it on current code, get more like 4%. 2016-07-13T21:05:41 < zyp> assuming you also follow «don't rewrite published history» 2016-07-13T21:05:58 < karlp> zyp: yeah, I probably made a bad choice on "no-one-s using this, I can push -f it to fix that" 2016-07-13T21:06:02 < zyp> :) 2016-07-13T21:06:10 < karlp> can't build old code to see if something _else_ changed. 2016-07-13T21:07:13 < zyp> I probably have a ton of temporary branches referring to the wrong submodule because I didn't commit the parent repo first 2016-07-13T21:07:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-13T21:07:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-13T21:07:42 < zyp> in the repo I use for experiments and one offs and other small shit based on laks 2016-07-13T21:08:20 < zyp> because I just commit shit in a hurry to get it out of the way to switch to a different branch 2016-07-13T21:20:57 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] 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2016-07-14T00:46:45 < zyp> karlp, huh, really? 2016-07-14T00:49:38 < Rob235> If I connect a usb device to a windows machine and run the program designed to read data from the device and then run wireshark to intercept the packets and they are just plain text packets should that mean that I could use an mbed stm32 with usb host capabilities with this type of code? https://developer.mbed.org/handbook/USBHostSerial 2016-07-14T00:49:47 < zyp> karlp, I guess that's because you're supposed to rely on usb flow control 2016-07-14T00:51:07 < zyp> Rob235, not enough info to say 2016-07-14T00:51:19 < Rob235> anything I can try to look up? 2016-07-14T00:51:31 < zyp> check the configuration descriptor of the device 2016-07-14T00:51:38 < Rob235> for what 2016-07-14T00:51:53 < zyp> that'll tell you what kind of device it is, i.e. if it's a serial port or something else 2016-07-14T00:53:04 < zyp> the data packets may contain a plain text payload, but it's the descriptors that tells the host what kind of device to treat it as 2016-07-14T00:54:53 < karlp> zyp: I guess, but it seems like a pointless omission. 2016-07-14T00:55:11 < karlp> and presumably what led to so few chip vendors implmeneting it directly, instead implementing their own protocols. 2016-07-14T00:55:20 < karlp> how's this for a requirement, "Note that Exar’s custom drivers for all Windows OS require that the Product ID be an 2016-07-14T00:55:20 < Rob235> communications and cdc control? is that it? 2016-07-14T00:55:23 < karlp> even number for the V1410 device for proper identification of the device" 2016-07-14T00:55:30 < zyp> karlp, well, ACM is not really for generic usb serial, it's for usb modems 2016-07-14T00:55:38 -!- mrtumnus [~mrtumnus@c-73-40-144-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-14T00:55:48 < karlp> and modems had flow control 2016-07-14T00:56:16 < zyp> yes, but that's something the device developer knows how to deal with 2016-07-14T00:56:32 < zyp> host doesn't need to know and only needs to deal with usb flow control 2016-07-14T00:56:53 < zyp> at least, that's my best guess for how it went down 2016-07-14T00:57:24 < karlp> so you think it's "correct" that even if a user software asks for hardware flow control on the cdc-acm port, it just gets ignored, and the driver treats it as usb flow control, which is standard. 2016-07-14T00:57:58 < karlp> would explain why the driver always just says CTS is high: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c#L868 2016-07-14T00:58:24 < karlp> still not sure how you can convey to the device firmware the request to use or not use said rts/cts pins. 2016-07-14T00:58:50 < Rob235> zyp: dunno if you say its class is usb cdc, thats what I want correct? 2016-07-14T00:58:59 < Rob235> communications device class 2016-07-14T00:59:01 < karlp> usb flow control only gets you between the host and the device. 2016-07-14T00:59:07 < zyp> karlp, because there's no «use» in this sense 2016-07-14T00:59:10 < Rob235> if you saw* 2016-07-14T00:59:44 < zyp> karlp, you're focusing too much on the serial part and too little on the modem part 2016-07-14T01:00:49 < karlp> I'm not following your point. 2016-07-14T01:01:34 < karlp> if you're _really_ building a modem, you probably aren't using ACM anyway, you're using DL 2016-07-14T01:02:16 < karlp> the docs do imply that you should AT commands to tell the device to do things though 2016-07-14T01:03:21 < karlp> I mean, I've got a usb attached serial port, what _other_ class am I meant ot use? if I want to be able to talk to a real serial device that needs and uses rts/cts flow control? 2016-07-14T01:05:11 < karlp> because if it was really useless, it wouldn't be implemented by ~all the usb-serial chip makers. 2016-07-14T01:07:45 < zyp> what wouldn't? 2016-07-14T01:07:49 < zyp> ACM isn't. 2016-07-14T01:07:59 < karlp> yes, because it doesn't support hardware flow control 2016-07-14T01:08:06 < zyp> I mean, name one usb-serial chip maker that isn't using their own proprietary protocol 2016-07-14T01:08:11 < karlp> which is what I brought up, I was surprised. 2016-07-14T01:08:20 < karlp> now I understand why they all have their own protocols 2016-07-14T01:08:30 < zyp> fair, I agree 2016-07-14T01:08:37 < zyp> I also think it's stupid 2016-07-14T01:08:44 < karlp> especially as it has _most_ of it, just not the rest of it. 2016-07-14T01:08:57 < karlp> and it has shit like reporting how many ring tones a phone has in the standard 2016-07-14T01:09:06 < zyp> :) 2016-07-14T01:09:18 < Sync> o0 2016-07-14T01:09:19 < karlp> it's almost like, "fuck it, it's friday, let's just call it good" 2016-07-14T01:09:25 < Sync> it also has flying carpets 2016-07-14T01:09:38 < zyp> Sync, haha, I was just about to mention that 2016-07-14T01:09:38 < Sync> I wonder which oem insisted on that one 2016-07-14T01:10:04 < karlp> which spec has the flywing carpets? 2016-07-14T01:10:06 < Sync> usb 2016-07-14T01:10:09 < zyp> eh, it's an example to demonstrate how flexible HID is, or something like htat 2016-07-14T01:10:11 < zyp> karlp, HID 2016-07-14T01:10:23 < Sync> yeah 2016-07-14T01:10:30 < zyp> flying carpet simulation controller or something like that 2016-07-14T01:10:55 < zyp> but anyway 2016-07-14T01:11:04 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T01:11:21 < zyp> the other thing I was about to say is that some parts of usb makes less sense than others 2016-07-14T01:11:37 < Sync> maybe the coke was empty on those days 2016-07-14T01:11:40 < zyp> some parts of usb are like «hey, let's solve a concrete problem» 2016-07-14T01:12:05 < zyp> while other parts are full of weird shit that nobody cares about in practice 2016-07-14T01:12:28 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-07-14T01:12:34 < zyp> ohsix, hmm? 2016-07-14T01:12:58 < karlp> right, hid usage tables 1.2 2016-07-14T01:13:02 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T01:13:07 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T01:13:18 < karlp> ohsix: that's _definitely_ not part of the spec, and that's fine. 2016-07-14T01:13:30 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T01:13:45 < karlp> ok, well, I think I'm going to take the exar approach. 2016-07-14T01:13:58 < karlp> cdc-acm compliant, and then add vendor requests for extra shit 2016-07-14T01:14:01 < zyp> device pretty much would have to have fifos, by definition 2016-07-14T01:14:11 < zyp> since transport is bulk, which on FS means 64 byte packets 2016-07-14T01:15:28 < zyp> ohsix, laks is my mcu helper lib 2016-07-14T01:15:33 < zyp> or whatever you want to call it 2016-07-14T01:15:45 < Rob235> what's better, capacitive touch or resistive touch 2016-07-14T01:15:52 < zyp> so all my mcu projects builds on htat 2016-07-14T01:15:56 < aandrew> what's your application? 2016-07-14T01:15:57 < zyp> capacitive 2016-07-14T01:16:17 * Laurenceb__ is raging at Qt 2016-07-14T01:16:26 < Rob235> handheld device gui 2016-07-14T01:16:28 < Laurenceb__> needs GDB with python interface to debug :( 2016-07-14T01:16:49 < zyp> Rob235, all modern phones and the likes are capacitive touch 2016-07-14T01:17:04 < karlp> but most pos terminals are resistive 2016-07-14T01:17:13 < zyp> resistive touch is the old kind that responds to physical force 2016-07-14T01:17:14 < karlp> so they work with wet fingers, gloved fingers, the ends of pens 2016-07-14T01:17:18 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-14T01:17:27 < karlp> the corner of a credit card, the bar girls long nails 2016-07-14T01:17:45 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-14T01:17:45 < zyp> pos is also an acronym for piece of shit :) 2016-07-14T01:17:48 < karlp> ok. tv time. read specs and procratined enough 2016-07-14T01:27:44 < Laurenceb__> anyone here used Qt? 2016-07-14T01:27:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T01:27:54 < Laurenceb__> does it just use regular gdb for debugging? 2016-07-14T01:35:01 < Laurenceb__> I see 2016-07-14T01:35:12 < Laurenceb__> looks like I need to install _something_ 2016-07-14T01:35:27 < Laurenceb__> Debugging has failed 2016-07-14T01:35:29 < Laurenceb__> so helpful 2016-07-14T01:37:18 < Laurenceb__> https://forum.qt.io/topic/59174/debugging-starts-failed-finished 2016-07-14T01:37:23 < Laurenceb__> no replies, v helpful 2016-07-14T01:37:37 < Laurenceb__> printf time 2016-07-14T01:44:25 < Laurenceb__> https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/753192942077145088/photo/1 2016-07-14T01:44:29 < Laurenceb__> serious business 2016-07-14T01:44:45 < Laurenceb__> I dont know, it doesnt provide useful debug 2016-07-14T01:44:56 < Laurenceb__> maybe if I start Qtcreator from terminal... 2016-07-14T01:45:41 < Laurenceb__> hmm yeah maybe its not configured 2016-07-14T01:45:50 < Laurenceb__> it was a haxored manual install 2016-07-14T01:46:28 < Rob235> why so damn expensive!!! https://www.adafruit.com/product/834 2016-07-14T01:47:27 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui <- added Qt gui 2016-07-14T01:51:58 < Rob235> not sure what they are referring to 2016-07-14T01:52:03 < Rob235> I really hope it works 2016-07-14T01:53:08 < Rob235> usb host 2016-07-14T01:54:15 < Rob235> I really don't feel like learning much about usb at this point in time so I'm looking for something easy in that regard 2016-07-14T01:56:15 < Rob235> I don't want to use a computer, that's the whole point 2016-07-14T01:57:01 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-14T01:59:17 < Rob235> the start of my python drone dashboard: http://imgur.com/Cts8v3O 2016-07-14T01:59:29 < Rob235> not really happy with it but i'll mess with it 2016-07-14T02:13:41 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T02:18:45 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-14T02:34:30 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-14T02:36:00 < ReadError> lol an entire show, they watch trains go by> 2016-07-14T02:40:10 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T02:52:09 < ReadError> smokin some .au biker p crt ? 2016-07-14T02:54:02 < karlp> ohsix: stahp. I have read the PSTN spec, that's what was I was commenting on...... 2016-07-14T03:09:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T03:15:14 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T03:19:39 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-14T03:23:12 < emeb> hmmm... got help request email from n00bs re one of my published boards. They couldn't figure out how to flash code into it. 2016-07-14T03:23:30 < emeb> Thought that hooking the USB port up to a PC would make it work like ST-LINK. 2016-07-14T03:23:45 < ReadError> heh and they plan to make code for it? 2016-07-14T03:23:58 < emeb> right - "then hiliarity ensues" 2016-07-14T03:24:00 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-07-14T03:24:18 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T03:24:25 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T03:25:04 < emeb> also - that board has some layout bugs that are mentioned on the website. There's a revised board design w/o bugs available but apparently they didn't notice. 2016-07-14T03:25:20 < emeb> I don't have high hopes... 2016-07-14T03:28:40 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T03:32:41 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T03:33:00 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T03:33:24 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T03:40:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:e18a:65f8:7bbd:aa1d] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-14T03:41:49 < emeb> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/synth/stm32f4_codec/index.html 2016-07-14T03:50:36 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-14T03:52:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-14T03:55:02 < dongs> http://www.thanko.jp/shopdetail/000000002646/ 2016-07-14T03:55:33 < dongs> emeb: whats new wiht that?last update 2013 2016-07-14T03:55:52 < emeb> dongs: that's just it - that design is old-n-busted 2016-07-14T03:56:04 < emeb> and some n00bs built it w/o reading the docs on that page 2016-07-14T03:56:10 < dongs> ah 2016-07-14T03:56:13 < emeb> and now wonder how to flash code into it. 2016-07-14T03:56:46 < dongs> what did you do forgot to connect boot pins or something? 2016-07-14T03:56:55 < dongs> or why it doenst work out of the box? 2016-07-14T03:57:19 < emeb> the layout is fscked - the SD card slot is wired up backwards. 2016-07-14T03:57:32 < dongs> oh fun 2016-07-14T03:57:34 < dongs> you should probly update that 2016-07-14T03:57:44 < emeb> but they thought that they could hook the board straight to a PC and get ST-LINK function from it. 2016-07-14T03:57:51 < dongs> heh, and that 2016-07-14T03:57:52 < dongs> nice 2016-07-14T03:58:01 < dongs> that's not a -discovery, bro 2016-07-14T03:58:05 < emeb> right 2016-07-14T03:58:37 < emeb> anyway - it says right in the project status section that there's a bug. I guess they didn't read... 2016-07-14T03:59:29 < emeb> should probably put a big banner on the pg "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NEW DESIGN" 2016-07-14T03:59:39 < emeb> since I have a rev2 board that's all fixed. 2016-07-14T04:04:39 < emeb> dongs: do you have those macaque monkeys near where you live? 2016-07-14T04:05:31 < dongs> heh no. one pal owned that loong time ago 2016-07-14T04:05:54 < emeb> didn't realize how widely distributed they were. 2016-07-14T04:15:12 < ReadError> emeb heh i did that shit too 2016-07-14T04:15:21 < ReadError> molex shows the pinout from the bottom 2016-07-14T04:15:24 < ReadError> because..?? 2016-07-14T04:15:50 < ReadError> and ESL datasheets 2016-07-14T04:15:56 < ReadError> sometimes w/o english at all 2016-07-14T04:15:57 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T04:16:52 < emeb> so long ago I don't even remember how/why I screwed it up. But I fixed it in the next rev. 2016-07-14T04:17:34 < dongs> sup, blogging 2016-07-14T04:17:39 < dongs> just shipped off 20kg box of PCBA 2016-07-14T04:18:51 < dongs> errr errr errr 2016-07-14T04:18:52 < dongs> R2PRO 2016-07-14T04:18:56 < dongs> just use unicode, period 2016-07-14T04:19:04 < dongs> build app for unicode, use wchar_t 2016-07-14T04:19:05 < dongs> stop using _T_ shit 2016-07-14T04:19:33 < dongs> no looks 2016-07-14T04:19:44 < dongs> > free in url 2016-07-14T04:20:11 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-14T04:20:23 < dongs> Written by Pascal Audoux in 2001 2016-07-14T04:20:24 < dongs> IN 2001 2016-07-14T04:20:25 < dongs> dude 2016-07-14T04:20:29 < dongs> `15 years ago 2016-07-14T04:28:02 < dongs> "MFC is a kind of object wrapper allowing access to the windows API, which is written in C. This is not a good object oriented design. In many places, you must supply a C struct with 15 members but only one relevant to your 2016-07-14T04:28:07 < dongs> case, or you must call functions with obsolete parameters." 2016-07-14T04:28:09 < dongs> so fucking whaT? 2016-07-14T04:28:13 < dongs> object oriented shit is a waste of time anyway 2016-07-14T04:28:23 < dongs> if you're writing shit for windows, use C or fuck off 2016-07-14T04:30:13 < dongs> err what 2016-07-14T04:30:19 < dongs> just read that eevFAG video description 2016-07-14T04:30:19 < dongs> and gets a cheap STM32L152C development board up and running with the IAR Embedded workbench compiler 2016-07-14T04:30:23 < dongs> CHEAP 2016-07-14T04:30:25 < dongs> IAR 2016-07-14T04:30:26 < dongs> what 2016-07-14T04:30:45 < dongs> no idea, but IAR shit sucks anyway 2016-07-14T04:30:46 < dongs> its nveer updated 2016-07-14T04:30:51 < dongs> just like orcad 2016-07-14T04:31:34 < dongs> it worked 2016-07-14T04:31:36 < dongs> just 2016-07-14T04:31:38 < dongs> not very impressive 2016-07-14T04:31:52 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkx4qZCCHqI 2016-07-14T04:32:29 < dongs> nope 2016-07-14T04:32:33 < dongs> just read the description 2016-07-14T04:33:59 < dongs> no clue 2016-07-14T04:34:05 < dongs> obviously im not watching 54 minutes of that shit 2016-07-14T04:34:07 < ReadError> dongs this came up in my amazon shit 2016-07-14T04:34:09 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BV1XBIY?ref_=ams_ad_dp_ttl 2016-07-14T04:34:15 < ReadError> how are they doing that so cheap 2016-07-14T04:34:33 < ReadError> seems like it would need some horsepower 2016-07-14T04:34:36 < dongs> ReadError: because its like 320x240 actual rez 2016-07-14T04:35:04 < dongs> er wait, i thought it was one of those chink "4K" projectors 2016-07-14T04:35:09 < ReadError> but still some FPGA ? 2016-07-14T04:35:21 < dongs> nah there's single chip shit that does that now 2016-07-14T04:35:37 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-14T04:35:44 < dongs> there's tons of makers doing HDMI matrix stuff 2016-07-14T04:35:44 < ReadError> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61x6ozuVKSL._SL1000_.jpg 2016-07-14T04:35:47 < ReadError> look at this tho 2016-07-14T04:35:53 < ReadError> its moving the pictures around 2016-07-14T04:36:01 < ReadError> wild 2016-07-14T04:36:10 < dongs> ReadError: yeah, that evalboard I got yesterday can do moving pip 2016-07-14T04:36:23 < ReadError> what chip? 2016-07-14T04:36:29 < ReadError> i thought this would be crazy fpga shit 2016-07-14T04:36:38 < dongs> maybe in 2011 2016-07-14T04:36:40 < dongs> but not in 2016 2016-07-14T04:36:50 < dongs> mine is a monitor chipset. like 3 inputs and you can pip all of them 2016-07-14T04:36:53 < dongs> and fade in/out and shit 2016-07-14T04:36:56 < dongs> and position anywhere/resize 2016-07-14T04:37:11 < dongs> also supports 4k2k type stuff. 2016-07-14T04:37:18 < ReadError> might be the same thing 2016-07-14T04:37:28 < ReadError> Supports up to 4K x 2K resolutions for crisp, clean, powerful displays (3D features are also supported) 2016-07-14T04:38:54 < dongs> lol @ pic difference between 3/4 port 2016-07-14T04:38:59 < dongs> its like identical, just a hole is covered 2016-07-14T04:39:04 < dongs> and one extra button on remote 2016-07-14T04:39:16 < dongs> i wonder if they just took 4 port pic and photoshopped off the button/hole 2016-07-14T04:40:40 < upgrdman> wuts 4k2k. like what does the 2k part mean 2016-07-14T04:40:46 < dongs> just that 2016-07-14T04:40:52 < upgrdman> does that imply 4k 4:4:4 60Hz or something? 2016-07-14T04:40:52 < dongs> 3840x2160 < 2k 2016-07-14T04:40:54 < dongs> no 2016-07-14T04:40:57 < dongs> 2160 = 2k 2016-07-14T04:41:01 < upgrdman> o 2016-07-14T04:41:26 < ReadError> what are u talking about 2016-07-14T04:41:33 < ReadError> 3/4 port pic difference? 2016-07-14T04:41:35 < upgrdman> is there some one common 4k res? 3840x2160 and 4096x2160 are the only 4K's i know of 2016-07-14T04:41:51 < dongs> ust those 2 2016-07-14T04:42:06 < ReadError> R2COM huh no i dont need this shit 2016-07-14T04:42:15 < dongs> hes just a faggot 2016-07-14T04:42:36 < ReadError> dongs is rude 2016-07-14T04:42:52 < upgrdman> you new here 2016-07-14T04:43:20 < upgrdman> i kinda miss rude flyback. now when he's in here he's like a dog that had his balls cut off 2016-07-14T04:43:51 < upgrdman> no more screenfulls of CANUCK 2016-07-14T04:46:20 < upgrdman> not yet 2016-07-14T04:49:33 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wadsaxefkravmamn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-14T04:58:20 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-14T05:04:13 < dongs> anyone got some smt-friendly vertical connector similar to molex picoblade but with some extra mounting pins that are through hole for better grip? 2016-07-14T05:04:23 < dongs> shit I can mount with paste-in-pad 2016-07-14T05:09:21 < dongs> https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=56844 hey nice this is finally in stock 2016-07-14T05:13:07 < dongs> LOL 2016-07-14T05:13:11 < dongs> busted 2016-07-14T05:13:35 < upgrdman> wtf. why is java's Math.random() so fucking slow. generating 300 random doubles per second is noticeably slowing shit down. i must be fucking something up. 2016-07-14T05:13:51 < dongs> well 2016-07-14T05:13:54 < dongs> its probably written in java 2016-07-14T05:14:05 < dongs> write some JNI adapter to libc rand() 2016-07-14T05:14:26 < dongs> or use that jappu random algorithym 2016-07-14T05:14:37 < dongs> merseenne twister or whatever 2016-07-14T05:15:16 < upgrdman> ya i just replacing the random numbers with 1, 2 and 3. i didnt really need random shits, just placeholders for testing 2016-07-14T05:15:28 < upgrdman> but surprised that made such a huge difference 2016-07-14T05:15:33 < dongs> ols 2016-07-14T05:15:36 < upgrdman> like 1fps -> 60fps 2016-07-14T05:15:37 < dongs> well thats javca for you 2016-07-14T05:15:45 < upgrdman> well maybe 10fps to 60fps 2016-07-14T05:15:50 < dongs> wat were you doing just filling screen with rand()? 2016-07-14T05:16:04 < dongs> you know if you xor X+Y coords together as you scan, it makes a nice pattern 2016-07-14T05:16:09 < upgrdman> testing a telemetry graphing tool im writing 2016-07-14T05:16:17 < dongs> http://lodev.org/cgtutor/xortexture.html 2016-07-14T05:16:50 < upgrdman> nice. bookmarked 2016-07-14T05:20:36 < dongs> hm im tryin tyo find gerbers for my arm1020 jtag adapter and i cant :( 2016-07-14T05:20:38 < dongs> need to reorder 2016-07-14T05:20:55 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-Ultrastar-7K3000-HUA723020ALA641-2TB-64MB-cache-Internal-Hard-Drive/262424239086 2016-07-14T05:20:56 < ReadError> fuck 2016-07-14T05:21:08 < ReadError> ole spinning rust is getting crazy cheap 2016-07-14T05:21:34 < dongs> jesus 2016-07-14T05:21:42 < dongs> then again 2016-07-14T05:21:46 < dongs> i have ~50kg box of old 2TB hitachis 2016-07-14T05:21:53 < dongs> been slowly giving them away 2016-07-14T05:21:57 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T05:22:12 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T05:22:28 < dongs> o its a refurb 2016-07-14T05:24:31 < upgrdman> $30 for refurb 2TB? sounds like a rip off. 4TB hdd new is like <$100 right? 2016-07-14T05:24:43 < upgrdman> 4TB USB is like $130 2016-07-14T05:25:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Sharp-Programming/Multi-Port-USB-Power-Supply/ 2016-07-14T05:25:35 < dongs> YESS 2016-07-14T05:25:40 < dongs> now i can monetize SUPERCHARGERPRO 2016-07-14T05:25:47 < upgrdman> see link above 2016-07-14T05:26:24 < upgrdman> is your just VDD/GND or also usb signaling for smartshits 2016-07-14T05:27:28 < ReadError> upgrdman 4tb is 120+ 2016-07-14T05:27:30 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-14T05:27:40 < ReadError> but with shit like zfs 2016-07-14T05:27:47 < ReadError> strength in #s 2016-07-14T05:28:57 < upgrdman> heh does to $120 on amazon for 4tb usb 2016-07-14T05:29:00 < ReadError> in what sense? 2016-07-14T05:29:04 < upgrdman> down to* 2016-07-14T05:31:21 < dongs> upgrdman: i have BC1.2 thing on there 2016-07-14T05:31:29 < dongs> to negotiate max currents 2016-07-14T05:31:34 < upgrdman> ah k 2016-07-14T05:31:41 < dongs> but the real dickstarter version Im gonna use a QC2.0/3.0 chip 2016-07-14T05:31:45 < dongs> so i can charge 5/9/12V 2016-07-14T05:31:58 < upgrdman> nice 2016-07-14T05:32:12 < upgrdman> you actually gonna dickstart, or do you just mean list it on your site 2016-07-14T05:32:20 < dongs> there's one thats all integrated, Vin 5->36V, switcher, and negotiates QC stuff and automatically adjusts output 2016-07-14T05:34:38 < dongs> actually dickstart 2016-07-14T05:34:47 < dongs> cuz phone power trash always gets the moneyz 2016-07-14T05:35:00 < upgrdman> nice 2016-07-14T05:36:31 < dongs> no 2016-07-14T05:36:33 < dongs> thats for STM8 2016-07-14T05:37:19 < dongs> right 2016-07-14T05:37:22 < dongs> what are you doing? 2016-07-14T05:39:44 < dongs> olimex arm-jtag-20-10 2016-07-14T05:39:54 < dongs> https://www.olimex.com/Products/ARM/JTAG/ARM-JTAG-20-10/ 2016-07-14T05:39:55 < dongs> 5 eur 2016-07-14T05:39:58 < dongs> includes cable, too 2016-07-14T05:40:17 < dongs> for what? 2016-07-14T05:40:34 < dongs> no you idiot 2016-07-14T05:40:37 < dongs> its 4.95 < 10 2016-07-14T05:40:42 < dongs> 4.46 > 10 2016-07-14T05:40:47 < dongs> do you even online shop 2016-07-14T05:40:52 < dongs> besides even digikey carries that thing 2016-07-14T05:41:03 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=ARM-JTAG-20-10 2016-07-14T05:41:05 < dongs> for $7 tho, lol 2016-07-14T05:41:07 < dongs> but anyway still 2016-07-14T05:41:24 < dongs> do you ahve an actual stlink 2016-07-14T05:41:25 < dongs> with 20pin shit? 2016-07-14T06:09:25 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-14T06:09:34 < upgrdman> does it jizz on your hand when you press the tip? 2016-07-14T06:09:56 < upgrdman> they come with a ASSortment of tips 2016-07-14T06:22:11 < dongs> err 2016-07-14T06:22:16 < dongs> ac6 i think 2016-07-14T06:22:22 < dongs> ac6 openocd something 2016-07-14T06:22:24 < dongs> lmemme open that shit and see 2016-07-14T06:23:04 < dongs> 'ac6 stm32 debugger' 2016-07-14T06:23:05 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-14T06:23:34 < dongs> y 2016-07-14T06:23:47 < dongs> why you have local script 2016-07-14T06:23:51 < dongs> i used default shit i think 2016-07-14T06:25:02 < dongs> yeah so its same shit as mine 2016-07-14T06:25:11 < dongs> in openocd command 2016-07-14T06:25:14 < dongs> add -d3 2016-07-14T06:25:23 < dongs> and see which USB ID its trying to open 2016-07-14T06:25:33 < dongs> NOT under 'openocd options' 2016-07-14T06:25:39 < dongs> cuz apparently that doesnt actually get passed along lol 2016-07-14T06:26:26 < dongs> command: "blabha.exe" -d3 2016-07-14T06:26:27 < dongs> no? 2016-07-14T06:26:38 < dongs> no 2016-07-14T06:26:39 < dongs> after " 2016-07-14T06:26:43 < dongs> " -d3 2016-07-14T06:27:39 < dongs> hm the fuck 2016-07-14T06:27:54 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-14T06:27:57 < dongs> its all inside there 2016-07-14T06:28:44 < dongs> yeah, but look at debug spam 2016-07-14T06:28:47 < dongs> see what its doing 2016-07-14T06:32:36 < dongs> do run instead of debug then 2016-07-14T06:32:38 < dongs> with same parameters 2016-07-14T06:32:46 < dongs> run doesn't try to start GDB which cleans console 2016-07-14T06:34:33 < dongs> right 2016-07-14T06:34:41 < dongs> check what your vid/pid of stlink device 2016-07-14T06:34:48 < dongs> in devmgmt 2016-07-14T06:34:57 < dongs> and hten edit wahtever .cfg this trash is trying to open, and put that correct vid/pid there 2016-07-14T06:35:20 < dongs> its there 2016-07-14T06:35:31 < dongs> its either under usb or someshit 2016-07-14T06:35:58 < dongs> motherfucker dont make me go plug in my -discovery 2016-07-14T06:36:21 < dongs> its under "Universal Serial Bus Devices" 2016-07-14T06:36:26 < dongs> STM32 STLink" 2016-07-14T06:37:00 < dongs> nope 2016-07-14T06:39:22 < dongs> weird 2016-07-14T06:39:25 < dongs> your hub is fucked then 2016-07-14T06:40:39 < dongs> properties, details, device instance path list 2016-07-14T06:40:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:7139:ec61:e3ab:9130] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T06:41:59 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tohnlhon1nqnx.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T06:43:36 < dongs> cool 2016-07-14T06:45:13 < dongs> yes 2016-07-14T06:46:50 < dongs> i forgot. i just looked at stepping and that worked 2016-07-14T06:46:55 < dongs> duno if they had device view 2016-07-14T06:51:54 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T06:51:59 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T06:52:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T06:52:31 < dongs> does the board connect to stlink utility 2016-07-14T06:55:35 < dongs> they send right away 2016-07-14T06:55:37 < dongs> to me anyway 2016-07-14T06:58:35 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161990425038 2016-07-14T07:00:46 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T07:00:49 < dongs> yes 2016-07-14T07:03:21 < dongs> ya your shit sounds fucked 2016-07-14T07:03:29 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T07:03:52 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T07:03:52 < dongs> no of course not 2016-07-14T07:03:58 < dongs> connect the shit to board, power board 2016-07-14T07:04:02 < Chris_M> R2COM: if you've already connected to the chip through keil debugger or eclipse, you'll get that too 2016-07-14T07:04:59 < dongs> well, nto gonna hurt but it isnt going to be unusable with old fw 2016-07-14T07:05:16 < dongs> edoes it not connect to the board? 2016-07-14T07:05:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T07:05:28 < dongs> then your board is fucked 2016-07-14T07:05:31 < dongs> or your connection to it is fucked 2016-07-14T07:05:38 < dongs> you only need 3V/SWCLK/SWDIO/GN 2016-07-14T07:05:40 < dongs> D 2016-07-14T07:07:04 < dongs> lol, hobbyking shipped already 2016-07-14T07:07:06 < dongs> thats fuckin pro 2016-07-14T07:07:15 < dongs> R2COM: nope, no need initially (and probably never, with opensores tools) 2016-07-14T07:07:23 < dongs> dont think anything opensores supports SWO anyway. 2016-07-14T07:11:59 < dongs> you had your connector reversed? 2016-07-14T07:18:06 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T07:18:20 < dongs> oh cool 2016-07-14T07:18:32 < dongs> accelerated dicksigns now has online BXL conversion tool 2016-07-14T07:18:34 < dongs> http://www.accelerated-designs.com/digikey-order-page/?customers=197653&parts=W25X40CLSNIG-ND&submit 2016-07-14T07:18:49 < dongs> no more need to download that d umb ultra librarian shit 2016-07-14T07:19:02 < dongs> ok 2016-07-14T07:19:06 < dongs> so then openocd SHOULD work 2016-07-14T07:21:51 < dongs> what does it look this time 2016-07-14T07:21:55 < dongs> err what does it look like 2016-07-14T07:21:56 < dongs> pic 2016-07-14T07:22:01 < dongs> im to lazy to dig out my -disco to see 2016-07-14T07:22:04 < dongs> does it show actual peripheral shit names 2016-07-14T07:22:10 < dongs> or just TIM1->CCR -x00000 2016-07-14T07:22:36 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-14T07:23:40 < dongs> oh, not bad 2016-07-14T07:23:58 < dongs> well, not bad for free 2016-07-14T07:24:00 < dongs> i'll stick with keil ~ 2016-07-14T07:24:07 < upgrdman> R2COM, try connecting and reading with official ST-LINK software 2016-07-14T07:24:14 < upgrdman> if that wont work, your problem is hardware 2016-07-14T07:24:15 < dongs> .. he did already 2016-07-14T07:24:21 < dongs> yeah, scroll down nigga 2016-07-14T07:24:24 < upgrdman> o ok 2016-07-14T07:24:24 < dongs> already resolved 2016-07-14T07:24:38 < dongs> that was first thing i suggested, connect wiht stlink util 2016-07-14T07:24:45 < dongs> which didnt work, and he found out his cable was reverse 2016-07-14T07:24:51 < upgrdman> ohsix, dicking with threads in java 2016-07-14T07:25:06 < upgrdman> dongs, o lol 2016-07-14T07:31:51 < dongs> they dont know spacex has the best jobs 2016-07-14T07:47:48 < upgrdman> flyback, :) 2016-07-14T07:48:32 < upgrdman> :( 2016-07-14T07:58:20 < dongs> R2COM: nice. 2016-07-14T07:58:25 < dongs> R2COM: no, swo is useless for you with opensores tools 2016-07-14T07:58:33 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T07:58:53 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzlnoripdnqdzhxn] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T07:59:40 < emeb_mac> sends data to a virtual port that gets serialized over swo line 2016-07-14T07:59:48 < dongs> flyback: i dont see ohsix at your video 2016-07-14T08:00:39 < dongs> dave doesnt even matter 2016-07-14T08:02:07 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-14T08:02:13 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-14T08:20:18 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T08:24:14 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ezelleron/kraftwerk-highly-innovative-portable-power-plant haha 2016-07-14T08:24:21 < dongs> who teh fuck thought this was ever gonna work 2016-07-14T08:24:34 < dongs> also, apparently they got sued by kraftwerk the band 2016-07-14T08:25:03 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-14T08:47:41 < dongs> its kinda neat how altidong snaps to nearest object feature when zooming with wheel 2016-07-14T08:54:04 < dongs> designin' 2016-07-14T08:54:57 < dongs> REMIND ME TO RATE THIS MODEL 2016-07-14T08:54:58 < dongs> how about NOT 2016-07-14T08:55:22 < dongs> nah fucking 3dcuckcentral 2016-07-14T08:55:32 < dongs> if i forget to uncheck that they fucking email me 2016-07-14T08:55:35 < dongs> "HOW DID YOU LIKE OUR SERVICVE" 2016-07-14T08:57:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-14T09:15:58 < ReadError> bukake 2016-07-14T09:19:09 < ReadError> not as much as your mum 2016-07-14T09:21:06 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T09:23:20 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Syba-SATA-Card-Adapter-SD-ADA40081 i wish these did RAID1 2016-07-14T09:23:56 < dongs> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/error/title._TTD_.png 2016-07-14T09:24:28 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Syba-SATA-Card-Adapter-SD-ADA40081/dp/B00K2R6A1O 2016-07-14T09:25:20 < ReadError> boot device on esxi 2016-07-14T09:25:23 < dongs> readstoner, there's better shit 2016-07-14T09:25:31 < dongs> with like 10 sdd cards 2016-07-14T09:25:32 < dongs> lol 2016-07-14T09:25:38 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017QXZGR0?psc=1 2016-07-14T09:25:41 < ReadError> ya but its raid 0 too 2016-07-14T09:25:41 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-14T09:25:51 < ReadError> dumb dumb dumb 2016-07-14T09:25:52 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-14T09:29:47 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T09:32:42 < dongs> lol yeah that one 2016-07-14T09:32:49 < dongs> and back side is empty footprints for EMMC 2016-07-14T09:36:03 < emeb_mac> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrU1hZxSEXQ 2016-07-14T09:36:27 < dongs> and here I thought it was a tutorial about ARM multicore chips 2016-07-14T09:37:22 < emeb_mac> same same 2016-07-14T09:38:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T09:39:42 < emeb_mac> iknowrite? 2016-07-14T09:44:49 < dongs> just redraw my arm jtag 2010 a dapter c uz i couldnt find gerber for my old one 2016-07-14T09:44:53 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/NCu9Ido.png how did i do 2016-07-14T09:45:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-14T09:46:08 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T09:48:02 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have a bit of a weird bug. In a loop, something runs fine 14 times, fails every time on the 15th. It fails halfway through a matrix multiplication, always on the same row & column. Funny thing is, the innermost function would've been called a hundred+ times 2016-07-14T09:48:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> How can I go about diagnosing and fixing hte porblem? 2016-07-14T09:48:37 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have gdb 2016-07-14T09:50:19 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: but what do you mean when you say "fails"? 2016-07-14T09:50:26 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: hardfault? 2016-07-14T09:50:30 < Jak_o_Shadows> goes to a funny handler. 2016-07-14T09:50:37 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: then you should at least inspect the backtrace first. 2016-07-14T09:51:44 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: plus, you can use https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32-Logger/blob/master/jtag/armv7m-macros.gdb , it's a very cool macro. 2016-07-14T09:53:39 < dongs> .. did I just see "laurenceb" and "cool" uised in same sentence 2016-07-14T09:55:37 < Jak_o_Shadows> I don't THINK it's a divide by zero. it could be 2016-07-14T09:55:53 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T09:56:07 < Jak_o_Shadows> Not that i'm sure why it would be happening, almost identical code works fine on the PC 2016-07-14T09:56:24 < dongs> is it recurvise? 2016-07-14T09:56:29 < dongs> recursive 2016-07-14T09:57:05 < Jak_o_Shadows> Nup, not recursive. Not a stack fault. 2016-07-14T09:57:16 < Jak_o_Shadows> Goes to "blocking_handler" (yes, I am using libopencm3) 2016-07-14T09:57:25 < Jak_o_Shadows> It could be using up lots of space though 2016-07-14T09:58:11 < Jak_o_Shadows> Mmm. I tried looking at 0xE0000ED28 - apparently the configurable fault status register, which shows nothing 2016-07-14T09:58:11 < Jak_o_Shadows> nup 2016-07-14T09:58:19 < Jak_o_Shadows> just continues 2016-07-14T09:58:28 < dongs> oh ohsix to the rescue 2016-07-14T09:58:34 < dongs> your problem has already been solved 2016-07-14T09:58:40 < dongs> you just need to read througfh 1000 pages of arm-arm with him 2016-07-14T09:58:41 < qyx> maybe you could paste your failing code 2016-07-14T09:59:04 < Jak_o_Shadows> Nothing shows up in GDB. 2016-07-14T09:59:40 < Jak_o_Shadows> I could post my code, but it's hardly a minimal example. Like, it's spread out a fair bit 2016-07-14T10:00:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> I am slightly concerned about filling up space 2016-07-14T10:00:17 < qyx> which space 2016-07-14T10:00:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> erm, the one that's not ROM. I wanna say stack? 2016-07-14T10:01:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> I am doing that 2016-07-14T10:01:20 < qyx> so you should avoid that 2016-07-14T10:01:59 < qyx> malloc must return NULL if it fails 2016-07-14T10:02:08 < qyx> pff 2016-07-14T10:02:24 < Jak_o_Shadows> can I tell, in gdb, how much of the heap is left? 2016-07-14T10:03:08 < qyx> again, malloc must return NULL, if it does another shit besides that, it is the library fault 2016-07-14T10:03:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.169] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T10:03:27 < qyx> but your code can a must rely on the NULL result to check if it fails 2016-07-14T10:05:30 < tkoskine> malloc on a microcontroller sw is usually a bad idea anyway. It is better if you can use static arrays. 2016-07-14T10:05:49 < PaulFertser> ohsix: cm3 uses whatever you link it with, including newlib and newlib-nano if you so choose. 2016-07-14T10:06:39 < PaulFertser> And it works predictably regarding exceptions, same as one would expect with any other library. 2016-07-14T10:07:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> yeah. None in particular. 2016-07-14T10:10:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm. Is there such a thing as the heap pointer? the top-most location of the heap? 2016-07-14T10:10:43 < Jak_o_Shadows> I could see if it overlaps with the stack. 2016-07-14T10:11:18 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-14T10:12:50 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T10:13:13 < Jak_o_Shadows> Do you particularly care if it's compileable? Or can I just put it (clearly) in one big gist? 2016-07-14T10:16:30 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T10:17:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T10:17:14 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: modern newlib doesn't allow to _sbrk more if it will cross the stack pointer. 2016-07-14T10:17:39 < PaulFertser> ohsix: openocd doesn't, gdb unwinds hardfaults on its own based on unwinding info from the elf file. 2016-07-14T10:17:49 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: why don't you use that macro? 2016-07-14T10:18:16 < PaulFertser> ohsix: yes, the macro implements about the same thing as that link describes. 2016-07-14T10:18:33 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-14T10:18:36 < Jak_o_Shadows> hagn on 2016-07-14T10:21:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> ok. How do I use that? 2016-07-14T10:21:56 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: use what? 2016-07-14T10:22:02 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: and what's in your backtrace anyway? 2016-07-14T10:22:07 < dongs> PaulFertser: he must be talking to ohsix 2016-07-14T10:22:14 < dongs> which you hopefully have on ignore 2016-07-14T10:22:34 < Jak_o_Shadows> nah, how do I use that gdb thing. 2016-07-14T10:22:39 < dongs> te h macro? 2016-07-14T10:23:18 < PaulFertser> dongs: haha :) I've noticed ohsix does have some EE experience, probably even above the average for this channel. 2016-07-14T10:23:30 < Jak_o_Shadows> yeah, the macro dongs 2016-07-14T10:24:15 < Jak_o_Shadows> https://gist.github.com/Jak-o-Shadows/c57091469a84806bed1307db99dd09e4 is potentially a backtrace? 2016-07-14T10:24:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> Not 100% sure what you mean 2016-07-14T10:24:40 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: it is 2016-07-14T10:24:56 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: type "frame 2" and inspect carefully the line you see. 2016-07-14T10:25:10 < PaulFertser> ohsix: no, openocd doesn't have to, why do you say that? 2016-07-14T10:25:40 < PaulFertser> ohsix: unwinding information embedded in the elf. 2016-07-14T10:26:03 < PaulFertser> You just notice the target is hanging, press C-c, type "bt", think about the reasons. 2016-07-14T10:26:18 < PaulFertser> ohsix: or you can use openocd's vector_catch command to have it stopped automatically. 2016-07-14T10:26:33 < Jak_o_Shadows> To get that, I told openocd to "halt" via telnet. 2016-07-14T10:26:46 < Jak_o_Shadows> (C-c is not entirley working, cause on windows, it just closes gdb) 2016-07-14T10:27:23 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T10:28:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> "frame 2" just takes me back up into the axisAng2RotMat function. Um, "0x800158e in axisAng2RotMat(n=0x20002db8, R=0x0) at blarrgh 2016-07-14T10:29:09 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: indeed, press "l" 2016-07-14T10:29:23 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: and look carefully at the line that caused the exception. 2016-07-14T10:29:38 < PaulFertser> inspect the variables etc. 2016-07-14T10:29:51 < PaulFertser> Probably R=0 is not expected there? 2016-07-14T10:30:04 < Jak_o_Shadows> https://gist.github.com/Jak-o-Shadows/9b2a64918f163ed38c48a790d0eb6dc0 is code 2016-07-14T10:30:19 < Jak_o_Shadows> No, I imagine not - R is a 1x9 array. 2016-07-14T10:30:42 < Jak_o_Shadows> But that particular line it's saying a problem is just "if (row==col) {" 2016-07-14T10:30:52 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: array? but you pass null pointer to this function instead of an array? 2016-07-14T10:31:28 < dongs> Jak_o_Shadows: lots of issues in that code, wehre do I start? 2016-07-14T10:31:52 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yeah, that could be because of malloc failing? 2016-07-14T10:31:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> dongs, anywhere you want. 2016-07-14T10:31:59 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'll listen 2016-07-14T10:33:33 < PaulFertser> If you need malloc/free in your code, why don't you just use C++14 and smart pointers instead to avoid leaks? 2016-07-14T10:34:13 < dongs> 1) atrocious indentation 2) double constants assigned to floats 3) passing flaot arrays as foo[] to funcs 4) fucking malloc everywehre and no free in sight 2016-07-14T10:34:47 < dongs> but yeah, did you edit your linker script and adjust your heap size 2016-07-14T10:34:57 < dongs> cuz i'd guess your malloc is failing somewhere 2016-07-14T10:36:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> 1) is cause vim :P. 2) ?? 3)I copied this style off someone else in the project, what's better. 4) yeah, it kept crashing when I was trying to free, so I gave up for now 2016-07-14T10:37:25 < dongs> Jak_o_Shadows: 2: is, your constants are double, but you're assigning them to floats. you should do float foo = 3.14f; if you want to acftyually assign a float 2016-07-14T10:38:00 < Sync> Jak_o_Shadows: even vim can do proper indents 2016-07-14T10:38:07 < Sync> pls learn into = 2016-07-14T10:38:13 < dongs> yeah i use vim and i have no issues with indent 2016-07-14T10:38:27 < Jak_o_Shadows> Sync, it can, but not in the same way that notepad++ does. I just need to standardise, and I haven't yet. 2016-07-14T10:38:48 < Sync> wat. dongs using opensores shits? that's unheard of 2016-07-14T10:38:56 < dongs> sync, gvim on windows is my primary text editor 2016-07-14T10:39:02 < dongs> only reason for rightclick->edit with vim 2016-07-14T10:39:09 < Sync> haha 2016-07-14T10:39:14 < dongs> super srs 2016-07-14T10:39:39 < Sync> goddamn fedex cunts 2016-07-14T10:39:41 < Jak_o_Shadows> dongs, do you mean in testBnb where I go "float y[] = {0.84834234324, etc, etc}? Because that's just for testing them. Otherwise, what constants? 2016-07-14T10:40:37 < dongs> pushPqueue(&q, &c2, 3.44); here too 2016-07-14T10:40:50 < dongs> anywhere you have a floating constant that you actually want specificalyl to be a float not a double, you should have f suffix 2016-07-14T10:41:07 < Jak_o_Shadows> Right. ok. 2016-07-14T10:41:12 < Jak_o_Shadows> What about the passing arrays thing? 2016-07-14T10:41:24 < dongs> the func(float foo[3]) type shit 2016-07-14T10:43:17 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yes. I am currently only doing "float x[]". Are you suggesting "float x[NUMBER]" instead? Cause I don't know how many vectors (bits of the array) I want to pass in 2016-07-14T10:45:06 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-14T10:45:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> ah, ok. 2016-07-14T10:45:19 < dongs> no, i'm suggesting using float *foo 2016-07-14T10:45:34 < Jak_o_Shadows> yup, sorry, got it 2016-07-14T10:46:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-14T10:46:20 < Jak_o_Shadows> about "free". In line 266ish of that gist, was my attempt on using free. But that didn't work on normal x86 C, and is taking me to blocking handler now 2016-07-14T10:48:45 < PaulFertser> ohsix: unique_ptr is getting optimised enough afaict, what runtime support are you talking about? 2016-07-14T10:49:03 < dongs> does that even work outside gcc 2016-07-14T10:49:40 < PaulFertser> ohsix: it makes perfect sense to use at least some parts of C++ on modern microcontrollers. 2016-07-14T10:50:35 < PaulFertser> dongs: unique_ptr? Works everywhere where C++ is supported, why not? 2016-07-14T10:50:51 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-14T10:50:57 < PaulFertser> ohsix: well, of course parts of libstdc++ are needed but they're part of the language, I do not get your question. 2016-07-14T10:54:06 < PaulFertser> Not having to bother about memory leaks seem to worth it. I do not have any numbers to prove this point though. 2016-07-14T10:54:55 < Jak_o_Shadows> wait 2016-07-14T10:55:08 < Jak_o_Shadows> Ok, malloc allocates memory from the heap 2016-07-14T10:55:12 < dongs> yeah. 2016-07-14T10:55:16 < dongs> where else. 2016-07-14T10:55:18 < Jak_o_Shadows> Do I need to go backward in the order that I malloced? 2016-07-14T10:55:32 < dongs> no 2016-07-14T10:55:40 < dongs> i mean,, you need to free() the pointer returned from malloc 2016-07-14T10:55:52 < dongs> but not if you iterated through it halfway or something 2016-07-14T10:55:56 < dongs> free()'ing that will crash. 2016-07-14T10:56:05 < PaulFertser> ohsix: that's something I agree with. 2016-07-14T10:56:09 < Jak_o_Shadows> If I call malloc 5 times (separately), do I need to free the 5th one first? 2016-07-14T10:56:24 < dongs> foo = malloc(20*siezsof(float)); foo += 10; free(foo); will fail. 2016-07-14T10:56:36 < dongs> Jak_o_Shadows: no, but you need to free the SAME pointer address that was returned. 2016-07-14T10:57:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T10:57:32 < Jak_o_Shadows> ok. But i'm mallocing structs, so I'm not changing the pointer address, cause that doesn't entirely make much sense to do so 2016-07-14T10:58:02 < dongs> yeah, certainly the bug (if any) is somewehre in that shitty poorly-indented code 2016-07-14T10:58:21 < dongs> hard to follow/care since its so badly indented 2016-07-14T11:00:50 < PaulFertser> Jak_o_Shadows: btw, if you're testing the same code on PC, you might benefit from running it with Valgrind, it exposes plenty of otherwise hard to find memory errors. 2016-07-14T11:01:03 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'll look into it 2016-07-14T11:01:05 < qyx> Jak_o_Shadows: wat, line 299 and 310 2016-07-14T11:02:23 < qyx> Jak_o_Shadows: there is no free between them, you are overwriting the previous pointer with a new one 2016-07-14T11:02:49 < Jak_o_Shadows> well, to be honest, at that stage I would just pre-allocate space for say, 300 of them, and just cycle them ohsix 2016-07-14T11:04:11 < Jak_o_Shadows> qyx, yeah, I am. but in-between I am adding that pointer to a big list of points, so I shouldn't need to keep track of it 2016-07-14T11:04:29 < qyx> is that the queue thing? 2016-07-14T11:05:29 < Jak_o_Shadows> yep 2016-07-14T11:05:37 < Jak_o_Shadows> also, I have fixed the indentation 2016-07-14T11:08:55 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T11:12:10 < dongs> < qyx> Jak_o_Shadows: wat, line 299 and 310 2016-07-14T11:12:43 < dongs> not only that, one thing gets malloc'd but if qhat isnt > best, it doens't get freed and the pointer does get just reassigned to a new malloc 2016-07-14T11:12:47 < dongs> so there's your one leak right there 2016-07-14T11:13:51 < dongs> c->delta = sqrt(rangeSum); 2016-07-14T11:13:55 < dongs> another double thing 2016-07-14T11:14:04 < dongs> use sqrtf() 2016-07-14T11:14:16 < dongs> or else you have useless double->float conversions there 2016-07-14T11:14:23 < Jak_o_Shadows> and it never gets added to the queue, and it wouldn't have gotten freed at some later 2016-07-14T11:14:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> good point! 2016-07-14T11:14:32 < dongs> correct 2016-07-14T11:15:31 < dongs> not really sure if I see a good reason to malloc that temp cube thing that you only use for searching 2016-07-14T11:15:43 < dongs> maybe keep that one on stack and copy when adding to queue 2016-07-14T11:15:50 < Jak_o_Shadows> I do need to keep track of more than one. 2016-07-14T11:16:02 < dongs> or in general try to keep memory-management stuff in one thing, either queue handles it or caller handles it 2016-07-14T11:16:18 < dongs> then it'll be easier to know what youre fucking up 2016-07-14T11:16:18 < Jak_o_Shadows> On average (according to PC simulations), generally at least 100->200 2016-07-14T11:16:32 < Jak_o_Shadows> I think I've mostly tried to be not queue 2016-07-14T11:17:44 < Jak_o_Shadows> Also, I can't free stuff I didn't malloc. If I go "float blah", I can't later free it 2016-07-14T11:22:40 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-14T11:27:33 < dongs> you might wanna have a look thorugh K&R c book at this state 2016-07-14T11:27:41 < dongs> these are basic C things 2016-07-14T11:27:43 < Jak_o_Shadows> aha 2016-07-14T11:27:52 < Jak_o_Shadows> I think I'm getting there 2016-07-14T11:33:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:7139:ec61:e3ab:9130] has quit [Quit: Do fish get thirsty?] 2016-07-14T11:34:11 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T11:48:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T11:49:22 < PaulFertser> ohsix: clang has sane integrated static analyzer. And also there're additional runtime sanitizers both in clang and gcc. 2016-07-14T11:50:27 < jpa-> tis-interpreter is interesting also 2016-07-14T11:54:00 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-14T11:56:40 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T11:57:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-82.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T11:59:34 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzlnoripdnqdzhxn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-14T12:00:04 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:03:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:03:51 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-14T12:13:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:15:43 < dongs> tis-interpreter? more like cis-interpreter 2016-07-14T12:16:54 < dongs> while (1) { check_if_you_have_a_penis() } 2016-07-14T12:18:52 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:19:24 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:22:30 < Jak_o_Shadows> For the record, freeing stuff has helped my problem 2016-07-14T12:22:41 < Jak_o_Shadows> At the very least it's moved it, if not eliminated 2016-07-14T12:22:49 < dongs> helped as in, it happens less now? 2016-07-14T12:23:08 < upgrdman> what was the problem 2016-07-14T12:23:28 < dongs> upgrdman: shitty code 2016-07-14T12:23:30 < dongs> mostly 2016-07-14T12:23:38 < dongs> ohsix has been sperging all over it for the last few hours 2016-07-14T12:23:42 < dongs> not much left to discuss 2016-07-14T12:23:53 < upgrdman> lol k 2016-07-14T12:24:04 < dongs> upgrdman: shit like struct foo * fag = malloc(); ... code ... fag = malloc(); type shit 2016-07-14T12:24:17 < dongs> memory leaks (on embedded, lol) and no free()'s 2016-07-14T12:24:32 < upgrdman> nice 2016-07-14T12:28:13 -!- O0ddity [~O0ddity@c110-20-44-227.rivrw8.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T12:29:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-14T12:29:39 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T12:30:27 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:39:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-14T12:41:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T12:41:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-82.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-14T12:50:38 < decimad> at least there's "pokemon go away" now 2016-07-14T12:50:57 < dongs> would be even cooler if there was an "ohsix go away" 2016-07-14T12:57:52 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Ot03Twd.png 2016-07-14T12:58:16 < trepidacious> There's a pokeman per player, as far as I can tell - you can all capture the same one 2016-07-14T12:58:33 < dongs> trepidacious: i dont even have any pokemans around my area 2016-07-14T12:58:37 < trepidacious> Mind you, that's a fairly harmless way to troll people, given they can't tell you're doing it ;) 2016-07-14T12:59:09 < trepidacious> Yeah it's pretty low on pokemans around here too, I guess because it's business not residential 2016-07-14T13:07:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T13:09:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T13:12:16 < karlp> Jak_o_Shadows: unrelated to your other shit but don't include stm32/f1/nvic.h, include cm3/nvic.h 2016-07-14T13:13:44 < karlp> Jak_o_Shadows: did you consider using arm cmsis-dsp for matrix stuff? 2016-07-14T13:18:43 < Jak_o_Shadows> Thanks karlp! 2016-07-14T13:19:16 < Jak_o_Shadows> I did consider it, but the matrix stuff I'm using is common to the larger project. Makes sense to try to keep things consistent 2016-07-14T13:24:31 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.83.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T13:25:12 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/3rc6MUb.jpg 2016-07-14T13:25:33 < wanderman> hi 2016-07-14T13:25:39 < wanderman> glad we both are men 2016-07-14T13:25:41 < wanderman> lol 2016-07-14T13:26:51 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/HZFAVOJ.gifv 2016-07-14T13:32:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T13:33:04 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T13:35:35 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-14T13:36:13 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.83.96] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T13:44:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T13:45:20 < Tectu> Any IAR users in here? 2016-07-14T13:47:56 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2016-07-14T13:48:01 < Laurenceb> I've used IAR 2016-07-14T13:48:07 < Laurenceb> but not for ages 2016-07-14T13:50:07 < Laurenceb> ohsix has time travelled back to the 80s 2016-07-14T13:50:14 < Laurenceb> SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB 2016-07-14T13:50:56 < Laurenceb> ohsix spotted 2016-07-14T13:50:58 < Laurenceb> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xned84_strikers-vs-scabs-from-billy-elliot-2000_shortfilms 2016-07-14T13:54:03 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-14T13:54:07 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:00:07 < Laurenceb> time to get my Tor install running 2016-07-14T14:00:18 < Laurenceb> https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/07/14/0016206/theresa-may-becomes-uks-spy-queen-and-new-prime-minister 2016-07-14T14:00:24 < Laurenceb> accurate url is accurate 2016-07-14T14:01:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-14T14:01:44 < Laurenceb> she will push for browsing history retention stuff 2016-07-14T14:02:01 < Laurenceb> cuz think of the children 2016-07-14T14:03:05 < upgrdman> wouldnt https solve this 2016-07-14T14:03:17 < upgrdman> of couse, lots is still just on http 2016-07-14T14:04:27 < Laurenceb> it will be using the ISP DNS system 2016-07-14T14:04:41 < Laurenceb> and poss some packet inspection, I dont know 2016-07-14T14:05:20 < Laurenceb> I'm too lazy to know lol 2016-07-14T14:05:35 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-14T14:06:01 < Laurenceb> its prob possible to bypass using alternative DNS 2016-07-14T14:07:13 < Laurenceb> the asbo nation 2016-07-14T14:07:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:07:56 < Laurenceb> like this 2016-07-14T14:07:58 < Laurenceb> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/york-man-banned-from-having-sex-police-it-puts-an-end-to-your-life_uk_57583136e4b014b4f2531f6d 2016-07-14T14:09:56 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:10:09 < Tectu> Laurenceb, does IAR do makefiles? 2016-07-14T14:10:34 < Laurenceb> I forget lol.. just used gui stuff 2016-07-14T14:10:49 < Laurenceb> maybe it does makefile behind the scenes 2016-07-14T14:10:50 < Tectu> thank you anyway o/ 2016-07-14T14:10:57 < Laurenceb> I was benchmarking against gcc 2016-07-14T14:11:03 < Tectu> Laurenceb, results? 2016-07-14T14:11:03 < Laurenceb> and gcc pretty much won 2016-07-14T14:11:12 < Laurenceb> with launchpad gcc 2016-07-14T14:11:16 < Tectu> Laurenceb, are you qualified to do such stuff? 2016-07-14T14:11:22 < Laurenceb> wut 2016-07-14T14:11:23 < Tectu> or did you just compare compile time while watching hentai? 2016-07-14T14:11:35 < Tectu> well, compiler benchmark is more than just looking at compile time :p 2016-07-14T14:11:37 < Laurenceb> no I have a "comparison license" 2016-07-14T14:11:47 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-14T14:11:52 < Laurenceb> this allows me to compare runtime and file sizes 2016-07-14T14:12:18 < Tectu> nah, sorry.... last time I had some conversation with somebody who told me that compiler XYZ is much better. after some asking it turned out that all he did was comparing compile times 2016-07-14T14:12:24 < Tectu> even on different machines. 2016-07-14T14:12:27 < Laurenceb> IAR runtime was a bit shorter using -O2 and similar 2016-07-14T14:12:34 < Laurenceb> gcc gave slightly smaller code 2016-07-14T14:12:37 < Laurenceb> with -Os 2016-07-14T14:12:52 < Laurenceb> compile time lulwut 2016-07-14T14:13:03 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-14T14:13:08 < Tectu> wut 2016-07-14T14:13:10 < Tectu> who was that 2016-07-14T14:13:51 < Tectu> Laurenceb, how is stuff these days? 2016-07-14T14:13:59 < Laurenceb> I'd just grab latest launchpad gcc, its got a bit better recently 2016-07-14T14:15:20 < Laurenceb> this https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded/+download 2016-07-14T14:15:58 < Tectu> Laurenceb, my question was more related to "how are you, what are you up to?" :D 2016-07-14T14:16:15 < karlp> Tectu: for various projects, compile time _is_ the only metric that matters. 2016-07-14T14:16:25 < Laurenceb> oh lol 2016-07-14T14:16:32 < karlp> performance and final size are both "fine2 but compile time directly affects developer hours and frustration 2016-07-14T14:16:35 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T14:16:35 < Laurenceb> I'm semi looking for a job atm 2016-07-14T14:16:44 < Tectu> karlp, for stuff that targets microcontrollers? 2016-07-14T14:16:54 < Laurenceb> still working on Horse stuff.. then have part time job doing random medical trial stuff 2016-07-14T14:16:56 < Tectu> Laurenceb, what kind of? 2016-07-14T14:17:00 < karlp> you didn't say that you were talking to someone about purely microcontroller projects 2016-07-14T14:17:01 < Tectu> horse stuff?! 2016-07-14T14:17:07 < Laurenceb> need to find a decent job doing something good 2016-07-14T14:17:16 < Tectu> karlp, IAR is kinda microcontroller only, no? 2016-07-14T14:17:18 < Laurenceb> Tectu: monitoring system for race horses 2016-07-14T14:17:39 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:18:06 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Hardware.jpg 2016-07-14T14:18:06 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-14T14:18:12 < Tectu> mafia much? 2016-07-14T14:18:19 < karlp> I'm sure you can build a big c++ template monster that targets a smallish micro where compile times become non-trivial. 2016-07-14T14:18:29 < Tectu> soon you will be able to collect a lot of bribe money 2016-07-14T14:18:34 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-07-14T14:18:44 < karlp> I know my own project has slow compile times, because I'm recompiling all sources for each hardware varianet, instead of just the hardware specific files. 2016-07-14T14:18:49 < Laurenceb> I get paid on deliverables, so have to make this shit work :S 2016-07-14T14:19:26 < Laurenceb> currently there is no stimulant injector, that will be an add on 2016-07-14T14:20:58 < ReadError> hey Laurenceb 2016-07-14T14:21:04 < ReadError> did you know horses SUCK 2016-07-14T14:21:17 < Laurenceb> Mr Hands does 2016-07-14T14:22:11 < Tectu> ReadError, obviously you have never seen a cat before 2016-07-14T14:22:15 < Tectu> because horse > cat 2016-07-14T14:22:25 < ReadError> nope 2016-07-14T14:22:32 < ReadError> horses are by far the worst animal 2016-07-14T14:22:34 < Tectu> dude, cats are like the most useless shit ever 2016-07-14T14:22:36 < ReadError> right behind horse people 2016-07-14T14:22:45 < Tectu> lol ^ 2016-07-14T14:23:00 < Tectu> at least you can use horses for stuff 2016-07-14T14:23:00 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/18MIl2P.gifv spotted upgrdman 2016-07-14T14:23:12 < Tectu> dongs, did you ever use IAR? 2016-07-14T14:23:28 < dongs> Tectu: no, it sucks so fucking bad I wont even pirate it 2016-07-14T14:23:34 < dongs> gotta draw the line somewehre 2016-07-14T14:23:41 < dongs> IAR is the orcad of embedded tools 2016-07-14T14:23:48 < Tectu> dongs, ah, I was wondering if somebody could give me a Keil vs. IAR 2016-07-14T14:23:53 < Tectu> LOL 2016-07-14T14:24:04 < dongs> Tectu: i just did 2016-07-14T14:24:15 < dongs> keil (especially free F0/L0 version) is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IAR 2016-07-14T14:24:23 < Tectu> dongs, may I ask what things make IAR so bad? 2016-07-14T14:24:29 < Laurenceb> ohsix humps his cat and his pillow 2016-07-14T14:24:39 < dongs> Tectu: its not updated, it has a compiler even worse than armcc, and the IDE is just real bad 2016-07-14T14:24:51 < Tectu> I see 2016-07-14T14:25:00 < Tectu> I only saw screenshots so far. IDE looked decent 2016-07-14T14:25:03 < Laurenceb> http://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/stickymeal/2013/11/tumblr_mekv1kkPJI1rc29i6o1_500.jpg 2016-07-14T14:25:08 < dongs> just check if they have Cortex M7 support yet 2016-07-14T14:25:35 < dongs> heh i geuss they do 2016-07-14T14:25:59 < Tectu> dongs, so not even worth contacting some people to get free IAR licenses for ugfx devs? 2016-07-14T14:26:03 < Tectu> cuz that worked with keil 2016-07-14T14:26:10 < Tectu> Pro much 2016-07-14T14:26:10 < dongs> go for it 2016-07-14T14:26:25 < Tectu> well if you tell me that I will regret the two minutes that it took me to send that e-mail then I won't 2016-07-14T14:26:33 < Laurenceb> just sell ugfx to IAR 2016-07-14T14:26:36 < Laurenceb> get $$$ 2016-07-14T14:27:34 < Tectu> Laurenceb, nah, ugfx 3.0 is mid-way done 2016-07-14T14:28:05 < Laurenceb> is this a full time job? 2016-07-14T14:28:20 < Tectu> soon 2016-07-14T14:28:21 < upgrdman> dongs, impressive distance that guy got, lol 2016-07-14T14:28:22 < Tectu> it would be right now 2016-07-14T14:28:27 < Tectu> but still university crap 2016-07-14T14:28:34 < Laurenceb> heh how do you pay bills? 2016-07-14T14:28:38 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-14T14:28:41 < Tectu> ;) 2016-07-14T14:28:47 < Laurenceb> luckily horse ppl are rich 2016-07-14T14:28:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T14:28:55 < Tectu> they gotta be 2016-07-14T14:28:57 < Laurenceb> I get ~ UKP18k/milestone 2016-07-14T14:29:01 < Tectu> my sister got a horse, fucking expensive shit 2016-07-14T14:29:16 < Laurenceb> but next milestone is "working gui" 2016-07-14T14:29:18 < Tectu> afaik it's some "better" horse 2016-07-14T14:29:18 < Laurenceb> uh oh 2016-07-14T14:29:24 < dongs> lol are you freecancering this 2016-07-14T14:29:28 < Tectu> Laurenceb, GUI like µGFX? 2016-07-14T14:29:28 < dongs> "milestones' 2016-07-14T14:29:30 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-07-14T14:29:35 < Tectu> o/ 2016-07-14T14:29:38 < Laurenceb> gui like Qt on PC 2016-07-14T14:29:40 < dongs> Laurenceb: just use EMWIN 2016-07-14T14:29:43 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-07-14T14:29:48 < Tectu> fuck you dongs :* 2016-07-14T14:29:49 < dongs> emwin is made of win 2016-07-14T14:29:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:29:56 < dongs> unlike uFGTS 2016-07-14T14:30:02 < Tectu> hah :D 2016-07-14T14:30:03 < Laurenceb> trollercoaster 2016-07-14T14:30:09 < dongs> jk they both suck 2016-07-14T14:30:13 < Tectu> Laurenceb, let me know if you need a horse 2016-07-14T14:30:23 < Laurenceb> heh I can get access to horses 2016-07-14T14:30:32 < Tectu> that sentence... 2016-07-14T14:30:34 < Laurenceb> just need to avoid the stable girls 2016-07-14T14:30:38 < dongs> lole 2016-07-14T14:30:51 < Tectu> maybe you want to do the opposite of avoiding them 2016-07-14T14:30:56 < Laurenceb> I'm like the only guy they ever meet 2016-07-14T14:31:05 < Laurenceb> its like the reverse of irc 2016-07-14T14:31:13 < Tectu> hah 2016-07-14T14:31:17 < Laurenceb> sausagefest -> pussyfest 2016-07-14T14:31:25 < Tectu> not sure why you are still on IRC then 2016-07-14T14:31:45 < Laurenceb> cuz they are nasty like female version of irc lurkers 2016-07-14T14:31:50 < Laurenceb> and just as horny 2016-07-14T14:32:18 < Tectu> and that is a bad thing because...? 2016-07-14T14:33:03 < BrainDamage> he wants to protect his mage status 2016-07-14T14:33:22 < Tectu> hah 2016-07-14T14:35:37 < Laurenceb> lul wizardchan is too fail even for me 2016-07-14T14:35:45 < Laurenceb> but I'm sure ohsix knows all about it 2016-07-14T14:36:02 < Tectu> Laurenceb, are you still into rockets and stuff? 2016-07-14T14:36:06 < Tectu> or was it balloons? 2016-07-14T14:36:11 < BrainDamage> it's both 2016-07-14T14:36:11 < Tectu> flying stuff. 2016-07-14T14:36:37 < Laurenceb> inbe zeo quinn is wizardchan admin 2016-07-14T14:36:56 < Laurenceb> zeo quinn is too insane to qualify as female 2016-07-14T14:36:58 < Tectu> what on earth is wizardchan? 420 for manga fans? 2016-07-14T14:37:08 < Laurenceb> Tectu: chan for virgins 2016-07-14T14:37:12 < Laurenceb> like seriously 2016-07-14T14:37:16 < Tectu> uh? 2016-07-14T14:37:34 < Tectu> Laurenceb, seriously? 2016-07-14T14:37:36 < Laurenceb> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Wizardchan 2016-07-14T14:37:55 < Tectu> Laurenceb, do you expect me to read stuff on encyclopediadramatica? 2016-07-14T14:38:03 < Laurenceb> there was a minority group who felt left out because they were too pathetic even for 4chan 2016-07-14T14:38:30 < Laurenceb> all you need to know 2016-07-14T14:38:52 < Laurenceb> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/a/ac/Copypaste_and_gf.jpg 2016-07-14T14:38:53 < Tectu> how can you possibly be too pathetic for 4chan? 2016-07-14T14:39:32 < Laurenceb> ohsix is wizardchan internet defence force 2016-07-14T14:39:52 < Tectu> well, I gotta get some stuff done 2016-07-14T14:39:54 < Tectu> cu folks o/ 2016-07-14T14:39:56 < Laurenceb> ok I need to do some work too 2016-07-14T14:39:59 < Laurenceb> or no moneyz 2016-07-14T14:40:11 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T14:41:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:42:05 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T14:42:30 < dongs> http://www.monolithicpower.com/DesktopModules/DocumentManage/API/Document/getDocument?id=3331 hmm that looks nice 2016-07-14T14:47:54 < dongs> Laurenceb: http://breedingseasongame.blogspot.jp/ may be of interest to you 2016-07-14T14:49:23 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T14:50:21 < Laurenceb> CUCK 2016-07-14T14:50:26 < Laurenceb> CUCK CUCK CUCK 2016-07-14T14:52:06 < Laurenceb> dongs confirmed as CUCK 2016-07-14T14:52:13 < dongs> wat 2016-07-14T14:52:24 < Laurenceb> <- just guessing from url 2016-07-14T14:52:31 < dongs> http://twimages.vr-zone.net/2015/01/asus-zenpower_5.jpg is that made from PCB 2016-07-14T14:59:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T15:04:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T15:10:17 < Laurenceb> http://www.theonion.com/article/new-audubon-report-finds-78-female-birds-sexually--52930 2016-07-14T15:10:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-14T15:18:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T15:19:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-14T15:20:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T15:23:15 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T15:25:58 < Laurenceb> is there any way to debug a segfaulting application without gdb/debugger? 2016-07-14T15:26:14 < Laurenceb> trying strace but its not helping much :-/ 2016-07-14T15:27:12 < Sync> why no gdb? 2016-07-14T15:27:20 < Laurenceb> dunno 2016-07-14T15:27:30 < Laurenceb> I think because my gdb is lacking python interface 2016-07-14T15:27:41 < Laurenceb> I cant get any useful debug info out of QtCreator 2016-07-14T15:28:04 < Laurenceb> other than Debugging has failed 2016-07-14T15:28:43 < karlp> what gdb do yo uhave that doesn't have python support? 2016-07-14T15:28:59 < Laurenceb> GNU gdb (GDB) 7.1 2016-07-14T15:29:37 < Laurenceb> maybe I can haxor an upgrade 2016-07-14T15:33:24 < karlp> that's wayyyyy old dude. 2016-07-14T15:33:47 < karlp> 7.6 was in the 2013 g-a-e 2016-07-14T15:35:18 < BrainDamage> you should've just typed OLD for brevity 2016-07-14T15:36:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T15:40:28 < Laurenceb> still broken with new gdb 2016-07-14T15:40:29 < Laurenceb> wtf 2016-07-14T15:45:36 < Laurenceb> Warning: (gdb) (no active run control) 2016-07-14T15:45:37 < Laurenceb> nice 2016-07-14T15:48:59 < Laurenceb> time to outsource to indian devs 2016-07-14T15:49:21 -!- mrtumnus [~mrtumnus@c-73-40-144-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T15:49:26 < upgrdman> post to freelancer 2016-07-14T15:54:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T15:58:32 < c10ud^> why debugging, just write awesome code 2016-07-14T16:01:10 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-14T16:01:33 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T16:02:17 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-14T16:03:30 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T16:03:45 < dongs> GNU/OLD 2016-07-14T16:10:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-14T16:11:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T16:33:23 < Laurenceb> freaking finally 2016-07-14T16:33:25 < dongs> blah x64 asm is sux0r 2016-07-14T16:33:27 < Laurenceb> got it to run 2016-07-14T16:33:48 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/portselectdialog.cpp line 273 segfaults 2016-07-14T16:33:50 < Laurenceb> wtf 2016-07-14T16:34:23 < dongs> your QT code looks just as bad your embedded code 2016-07-14T16:34:24 < dongs> congrats 2016-07-14T16:34:31 < Laurenceb> pro 2016-07-14T16:53:25 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T17:08:58 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T17:10:15 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T17:14:31 < Thorn> x32 asm is way worse 2016-07-14T17:14:46 < dongs> nope 2016-07-14T17:14:54 < dongs> i can at least follow 32 stuff 2016-07-14T17:17:59 < aandrew> Laurenceb: first step: turn off optimizations 2016-07-14T17:18:11 < aandrew> Laurenceb: second step: printf the shit out of it, or use GPIO toggles 2016-07-14T17:18:35 < dongs> i think hes talking about shit on desktop 2016-07-14T17:18:36 < Laurenceb> GPIO 2016-07-14T17:18:38 < dongs> some QT aids hes failing with 2016-07-14T17:18:39 < Laurenceb> PC 2016-07-14T17:18:41 < Laurenceb> pick one 2016-07-14T17:18:53 < aandrew> oh on desktop? why can't you use gdb then? 2016-07-14T17:18:58 < dongs> hes too dumb 2016-07-14T17:19:03 < dongs> just download visual studio 2015 2016-07-14T17:19:07 < dongs> and use QT from there 2016-07-14T17:19:12 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-14T17:19:14 < dongs> stop this fucking QTcretin nonsense 2016-07-14T17:19:21 < dongs> for real, QT ide is garbage 2016-07-14T17:19:33 < aandrew> dongs: I got STM32 CDC to enumerate on win7 stock without an inf 2016-07-14T17:19:41 < dongs> really now 2016-07-14T17:19:42 < aandrew> or more accurately, without an additional inf 2016-07-14T17:19:49 < dongs> send me codes so I can verify 2016-07-14T17:19:49 < aandrew> you cheat 2016-07-14T17:19:51 < aandrew> no code 2016-07-14T17:20:02 < dongs> yes, descriptor 2016-07-14T17:20:07 < dongs> which -disco did you make that for 2016-07-14T17:20:10 < dongs> or do yuo mean 2016-07-14T17:20:16 < dongs> you enumerated as ST CDC 2016-07-14T17:20:21 < dongs> which already has inf in windowsupdate 2016-07-14T17:20:21 < dongs> lol 2016-07-14T17:20:49 < aandrew> hang on my fucking PC at home rebooted 2016-07-14T17:20:52 < aandrew> fucking bullshit 2016-07-14T17:23:12 < dongs> Laurenceb: beep, did you know QT integrates nicely with vstudio 2016-07-14T17:23:27 < Laurenceb> oh 2016-07-14T17:23:30 < dongs> http://doc.qt.io/vs-addin/ 2016-07-14T17:23:30 < Laurenceb> I might try 2016-07-14T17:23:44 < dongs> Import and export of Qt Project {.pro} and Project Include {.pri} files. 2016-07-14T17:23:49 < dongs> you can even import your QTFAILATOR projects 2016-07-14T17:23:56 < dongs> and be off debugging and NOT FAILING like RIGHT AWAY 2016-07-14T17:23:57 < Laurenceb> the .pro files are mega retarded 2016-07-14T17:24:05 < Laurenceb> its like 20 lines of file paths 2016-07-14T17:24:28 < dongs> absolute paths? 2016-07-14T17:24:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T17:24:36 < Laurenceb> no, relative to the .pro 2016-07-14T17:24:42 < dongs> at least not THAT bad 2016-07-14T17:24:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-14T17:25:31 < aandrew> dongs: 0x47e:bad1 2016-07-14T17:25:44 < aandrew> that matches in mdmcpq.inf which is in stock win7 2016-07-14T17:26:30 < dongs> usb 56k modem 2016-07-14T17:26:35 < aandrew> yep 2016-07-14T17:26:49 < aandrew> seems to come up as COM3 by default 2016-07-14T17:26:55 < dongs> well yeah, COM wahtever 2016-07-14T17:29:43 < dongs> aandrew: well... thats same as enumerating as fucking ST CDC 2016-07-14T17:29:56 < dongs> other than ST is on windowsupdate 2016-07-14T17:30:02 < dongs> and this one is built in 2016-07-14T17:30:09 < aandrew> yes 2016-07-14T17:30:17 < aandrew> there isn't any other way around it on win7/8.x 2016-07-14T17:30:24 < dongs> right 2016-07-14T17:30:28 < aandrew> win10 does automatic shit to usbser.sys 2016-07-14T17:32:19 < Laurenceb> aandrew: I have gdb running, its just not helpful 2016-07-14T17:38:13 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-14T17:47:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T17:57:25 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T18:05:50 < aandrew> how is it not helpful? build iwth -O0 -g, run the app with gdb and when it segfaults it should give you a decent stack trace to work with 2016-07-14T18:06:30 < dongs> just use visual studio 2016-07-14T18:06:35 < dongs> then you can acftually DO something with that stack trace 2016-07-14T18:06:54 < dongs> however 2016-07-14T18:06:56 < dongs> chances are 2016-07-14T18:07:02 < dongs> as soon as you build it with vs, it wont even be crashign 2016-07-14T18:07:04 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-14T18:07:09 < dongs> INSTANTLY FIXED 2016-07-14T18:07:13 < Laurenceb> probably threading related 2016-07-14T18:07:13 < dongs> by closed sores 2016-07-14T18:07:23 < Laurenceb> will try some more connection arguments 2016-07-14T18:08:44 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Build-recycling-machine-Instructions/ wat 2016-07-14T18:09:26 < dongs> nothing good on freecancer 2016-07-14T18:09:27 < dongs> bedtime 2016-07-14T18:11:20 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-14T18:13:01 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D7gy0cz5AA8#t=96 2016-07-14T18:13:04 < Laurenceb> sweet dreams 2016-07-14T18:15:49 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-14T18:17:34 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T18:31:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T18:35:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T18:35:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T18:45:45 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-14T18:59:45 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T19:03:57 < Laurenceb> I fear I've seriously underestimated the challenges of multithreaded shit on pc 2016-07-14T19:04:24 < Laurenceb> down the rabbit hole :S 2016-07-14T19:06:46 < zyp> haha 2016-07-14T19:06:57 < zyp> yeah, multithreading is a pain 2016-07-14T19:07:07 < zyp> better to avoid it if you can 2016-07-14T19:07:17 < Laurenceb> segfault is being caused by some sort of threading issue 2016-07-14T19:07:55 < Laurenceb> I should probably get pen and paper and work out how everything runs... 2016-07-14T19:08:13 < Laurenceb> atm I've used a lot of boilerplate code without following it all 2016-07-14T19:09:04 < Laurenceb> google finds loads of instances of the same problem, and no solutions 2016-07-14T19:13:41 < karlp> people are probably too embarrassed to share their solutions 2016-07-14T19:22:30 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-14T19:23:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-14T19:24:12 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T19:24:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-14T19:25:10 < karlp> ok, some code tweaks, reduced power consumption from ~20ma to ~10ma. now we can support 24V input without melting. whee 2016-07-14T19:25:49 < karlp> I wonder if I can still finis all the maths running on MSI at 4Mhz in range 1 2016-07-14T19:26:18 -!- TheSeven 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Steffanx> or gdb. 2016-07-14T19:37:50 < Laurenceb> gdb doesnt give me anything useful 2016-07-14T19:37:52 < Thorn> debug infoi is in core 2016-07-14T19:37:56 < Steffanx> I heard pokemon porn is booming again, you should try that Laurenceb 2016-07-14T19:38:00 < Thorn> gdp ./program core 2016-07-14T19:38:22 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/portselectdialog.cpp#L273 2016-07-14T19:38:25 < Laurenceb> error is there 2016-07-14T19:38:39 < Laurenceb> but I've no clue what the error is 2016-07-14T19:38:51 < Thorn> are you using QThread 2016-07-14T19:38:56 < Thorn> for threading 2016-07-14T19:38:59 < Laurenceb> no 2016-07-14T19:39:10 < Thorn> that's your problem 2016-07-14T19:39:35 < Thorn> signals/slots need to know when they send signals across threads 2016-07-14T19:39:45 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-14T19:40:00 < englishman> so it turns out lunix has a 'feature' that detects serial ports, connects to them and sends messages, since it assumes all serial ports are gsm modems so 3rd world lunix users can connect to the internet or something 2016-07-14T19:40:02 < Laurenceb> so how do I use Qthread? 2016-07-14T19:40:10 < englishman> and that helpful utility sends messages that causes my board to reboot 2016-07-14T19:40:12 < englishman> thanks lunix 2016-07-14T19:40:51 < Laurenceb> what the heck 2016-07-14T19:40:52 < Laurenceb> https://wiki.qt.io/QThreads_general_usage 2016-07-14T19:40:53 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-14T19:40:58 < Laurenceb> guide written by hackitten 2016-07-14T19:41:08 < Thorn> https://john.nachtimwald.com/2015/05/02/effective-threading-using-qt/ 2016-07-14T19:41:32 < Laurenceb> nice, I sense this is going to take me about a month to get fixed :/ 2016-07-14T19:41:38 < Laurenceb> thanx for the link 2016-07-14T19:42:36 < Laurenceb> http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/I-Have-No-Idea-What-Im-Doing-Dog-05.jpg 2016-07-14T19:42:39 < Laurenceb> me right now 2016-07-14T19:44:13 -!- 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Steffanx> Excellent sir mr crt 2016-07-14T20:03:00 < Steffanx> and how are you mate? 2016-07-14T20:03:26 < Steffanx> self-employers can do that 2016-07-14T20:04:28 < englishman> 3am is prime innovation time 2016-07-14T20:04:34 < englishman> all distractions go away 2016-07-14T20:04:38 < englishman> like sun, and living people 2016-07-14T20:04:42 < Steffanx> why? in the basements it's always dark 2016-07-14T20:04:50 < Steffanx> tell mom not to go inside etc. 2016-07-14T20:05:02 < englishman> yeah, mom 2016-07-14T20:05:12 < englishman> stay out im innovating 2016-07-14T20:05:18 < englishman> dont you see the innovation all over the plce 2016-07-14T20:05:35 < Steffanx> all you need is some coke and pizza. 2016-07-14T20:05:41 < Steffanx> or pepsi for the yankees 2016-07-14T20:05:54 < englishman> club-mate 2016-07-14T20:08:27 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T20:09:42 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-14T20:14:07 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/ixEm52C 2016-07-14T20:14:38 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-07-14T20:16:32 < karlp> englishman: feel yoru pain: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/391144/16582146/ 2016-07-14T20:17:17 < englishman> lol 2016-07-14T20:18:19 < karlp> (if you won't want to remove modem manager altogether) 2016-07-14T20:18:40 < karlp> removing things like that can often upset the desktop env and the package manager and shit. 2016-07-14T20:19:14 < karlp> that's actually a short file on this computer, have a few more things in it on the home pc :) 2016-07-14T20:20:30 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T20:27:59 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-14T20:28:57 < englishman> truly desktop ready 2016-07-14T20:29:51 < karlp> don't go looking for the bugs filed on that, there's some rocks and hard places of people with "needs" for some modem shit for some reason. 2016-07-14T20:30:25 < karlp> largely comes down to, "modems were here first, things taht arne't modems shouldn't look like serial ports!" 2016-07-14T20:30:35 * karlp flips table. 2016-07-14T20:30:49 < englishman> how do they work on windows? 2016-07-14T20:31:14 < karlp> you don't get the serial port untilyou install the drivers :) 2016-07-14T20:31:20 < karlp> and they say it's not a modem :) 2016-07-14T20:31:45 < englishman> sounds convoluted & unnecessary 2016-07-14T20:31:49 < englishman> like everything else in lunix 2016-07-14T20:32:19 < englishman> so of course this software attaches to every vcp regardless of vid/pid right 2016-07-14T20:32:57 < karlp> it doesn't knwo about vids pids, 2016-07-14T20:33:08 < karlp> by the time it's running, it's jus tlooking at things that are ttys. 2016-07-14T20:33:10 < englishman> it attaches to every single serialport? 2016-07-14T20:33:12 < englishman> wow 2016-07-14T20:33:15 < karlp> modems man 2016-07-14T20:33:19 < karlp> gotta ring them all 2016-07-14T20:33:26 < englishman> like, we are talking 9 pin plugs now 2016-07-14T20:33:30 < karlp> like I said, the bugs filed against this are "amusing" 2016-07-14T20:33:32 < englishman> with screws to hold them on 2016-07-14T20:33:44 < karlp> with "your fucking shit tried dialling my cnc lathe mid operation" 2016-07-14T20:33:53 < englishman> r 2016-07-14T20:33:53 < englishman> o 2016-07-14T20:33:53 < englishman> f 2016-07-14T20:33:54 < englishman> l 2016-07-14T20:34:11 < karlp> andthen there's people like, "you can take my modem from my cold dead hands" 2016-07-14T20:34:53 < BrainDamage> can't you just kill the daemon? 2016-07-14T20:35:03 < englishman> yeah thats exactly what ive done 2016-07-14T20:35:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T20:35:11 < Laurenceb> call a priest 2016-07-14T20:35:40 < englishman> but of course, since this is default behaviour in lunix, and a pretty weird problem to diagnose, it took like 1hr and the solution was in an ancient forum post 2016-07-14T20:35:59 < englishman> that doesnt even include the time spent whining about it on irc 2016-07-14T20:36:51 < Steffanx> but now at we had an hour of joy. 2016-07-14T20:42:33 < Laurenceb> >Born just in time to vote for Trump 2016-07-14T20:42:41 < Laurenceb> >Born just in time to be in Trump's Deportation Army 2016-07-14T20:42:53 < Laurenceb> $Current Year Is looking pretty bright 2016-07-14T20:43:21 < Laurenceb> how to trigger ohsix 2016-07-14T20:48:23 < Steffanx> Challenge for mr Laurenceb: Try not to trigger ohsix and/or mention autism crap. And you'll win not getting banned. 2016-07-14T20:48:38 < Laurenceb> lulz 2016-07-14T20:48:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T20:51:11 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-14T20:54:38 < Laurenceb> emdrive 2016-07-14T21:00:15 < Sync> emtrails 2016-07-14T21:04:28 < Laurenceb> holy shit 2016-07-14T21:07:05 < Laurenceb> maybe chemtrails use emdrive 2016-07-14T21:07:15 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-14T21:10:28 < englishman> lol 2016-07-14T21:11:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-14T21:23:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T21:27:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:61b1:df93:72e0:c1ff] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T21:28:15 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T21:35:30 < Laurenceb> yay Qt not failing 2016-07-14T21:35:46 < Laurenceb> it was memory corruption somewhere completely different 2016-07-14T21:37:58 < Rob235> hmmm 2016-07-14T21:38:08 < Laurenceb> confusing debugging 2016-07-14T21:38:08 < Rob235> anyone good with matplotlib? 2016-07-14T21:38:14 < Laurenceb> I just use matlab 2016-07-14T21:38:27 < Rob235> hspace and wspace are set to zero but there is still a 1px space, anyway to get rid of that? http://imgur.com/L8N1MDh 2016-07-14T21:40:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T21:54:36 < Shavik> Anyone have experience using PC13, the antitamper pin on the STM32F4? Just wanting to use it as a simple GPIO. Saw where I need to set a few RTC registers to zero it seems? 2016-07-14T21:54:45 < Shavik> Was using Cube to generate things but can add whatever I need in 2016-07-14T22:24:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-14T22:32:58 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-14T22:40:03 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-14T22:44:32 < Shavik> Ok Figured it out. If anyone else ever has an issue using PC13, or Anti-tamper pin as output, here is the magical code to make it work http://paste.ofcode.org/qdYQYw5YDrNb6etypjJL59 2016-07-14T22:45:53 < zyp> uh, you shouldn't have to disable anything unless you enabled it in the first place 2016-07-14T23:04:10 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-07-14T23:33:23 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/XBQich7J/image.JPG 2016-07-14T23:35:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-14T23:46:15 < decimad> hehe, nintendo will revive the nes 2016-07-14T23:46:43 < decimad> those were the times! 2016-07-14T23:53:10 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@199.192.233.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-14T23:55:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Day changed Fri Jul 15 2016 2016-07-15T00:21:43 < Rob235> drone dashboard is starting to look like something... http://imgur.com/0gzyvik 2016-07-15T00:23:08 < kakimir> did 4 glidings today 2016-07-15T00:27:48 < kakimir> already pro 2016-07-15T00:28:26 < kakimir> the rest +40hours of flying are just mere symbolic value 2016-07-15T00:32:51 < kakimir> I have done like 7hours 2016-07-15T00:33:24 < englishman> ur gonna die 2016-07-15T00:36:40 < kakimir> is this promis? 2016-07-15T00:47:12 < kakimir> I still have to fly with teacher on board 2016-07-15T00:48:41 < kakimir> and teacher prefers not to die 2016-07-15T00:49:35 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-15T00:51:33 < kakimir> and it ultimatelly keeps the plane from not hitting ground and or anything in unfavourable angle and speed 2016-07-15T00:51:59 < kakimir> most dangerous part of flight is lauch 2016-07-15T00:52:43 < kakimir> and exactly - pulling nose up too early 2016-07-15T00:56:25 < kakimir> 20meter up - nose full up and winch rope goes - you can dial to emergency number at the instant the rope fails 2016-07-15T00:57:57 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fechhwsrjyzsvkdr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T01:00:24 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T01:00:53 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-07-15T01:05:55 < Laurenceb__> after much raging, qt failproject is almost working 2016-07-15T01:06:06 < Laurenceb__> thanks RMS 2016-07-15T01:06:50 -!- mrtumnus [~mrtumnus@c-73-40-144-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-15T01:09:19 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T01:29:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-15T01:37:03 < decimad> on the scale of not working to working, almost working is like 25% 2016-07-15T01:38:30 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-07-15T01:38:50 < decimad> I think beginning at 95% users start raging less using your tool than you were raging with your tools developing it ;) 2016-07-15T01:48:37 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T01:50:00 < Laurenceb__> 2016, when memes became reality 2016-07-15T01:50:03 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/a/dGEtE 2016-07-15T01:51:20 < Laurenceb__> admiral akbar sighted in france 2016-07-15T02:22:53 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco4z98nIQY 2016-07-15T02:23:08 * jadew finished lolcat \o/ 2016-07-15T02:24:48 < jadew> it's a meme generator 2016-07-15T02:25:18 < jadew> (funny cat pictures) 2016-07-15T02:26:04 < jadew> *better 2016-07-15T02:26:50 < jadew> while it allows you to have doc blocks in the source file, it doesn't force you to and you can merge that with external documentation 2016-07-15T02:27:02 < jadew> so your sourcecode doesn't have to look like the bible 2016-07-15T02:27:10 < jadew> and be simply... source code 2016-07-15T02:27:27 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/a/NwVia 2016-07-15T02:27:50 < jadew> crt, who are you talking to? 2016-07-15T02:28:37 < Laurenceb__> maybe they have a terror plan card game 2016-07-15T02:28:50 < jadew> nothing, I'll give it out for free when it's ready and might even opensource it if I manage to make adding new languages a bit easier 2016-07-15T02:28:53 < Laurenceb__> that could be a cool invention, kind of like reverse cluedo 2016-07-15T02:29:08 < Laurenceb__> "the crowd" with a "truck" 2016-07-15T02:29:30 < Laurenceb__> brb filing patent 2016-07-15T02:29:54 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-15T02:30:04 < Laurenceb__> yeah planes could be another weapon 2016-07-15T02:30:16 < Laurenceb__> also chemtrails and emdrive for lulz 2016-07-15T02:30:21 < jadew> right now I have to make a syntax highlighter for the external documentation files 2016-07-15T02:31:00 < Laurenceb__> lul waifu integration 2016-07-15T02:31:42 < jadew> I don't know where you guys learn these terms 2016-07-15T02:32:50 < Laurenceb__> /s/tm32 2016-07-15T02:47:23 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@50.21.129.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T02:47:23 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@50.21.129.42] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-15T02:47:23 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T02:56:53 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-nhfozuzcikpwursb] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-15T02:57:22 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.236.164] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T03:08:01 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-15T03:10:31 -!- debris` [debris@shells.fnordserver.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T03:17:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T03:18:34 < ReadError> dongs 2016-07-15T03:18:34 < ReadError> dongs 2016-07-15T03:20:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:61b1:df93:72e0:c1ff] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-15T03:32:42 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-15T04:02:04 < Chris_M> ohsix: yeh, like this one: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/IPCam-LogiLink-Pan-Tilt-IP-Kamera-10-x-IR-LED-Mikrofon-sw-ip-camera-WC0030A-/302000299991?hash=item46509edfd7:g:USIAAOSwXeJXdFhj 2016-07-15T04:02:50 < upgrdman> any java pros awake? or cs in general. ##java is asleep.... reading about thread pools. is there any reason why threads are not always pooled (invisible to the programmer) ? pools give you the benefit of less creation/destroy overhead, but what is the drawback? 2016-07-15T04:02:58 < dongs> nice france 2016-07-15T04:03:38 < ReadError> dongs https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bsu4qOjX/IMG_1434.JPG 2016-07-15T04:03:41 < ReadError> what are them squares 2016-07-15T04:03:47 < ReadError> copper thiefs ? 2016-07-15T04:03:50 < dongs> upgrdman: none, just that you dont always need a pool, and pool is generally doing one task thats distributed like handling network connections or some repetitive thing 2016-07-15T04:04:21 < upgrdman> ya i got that 2016-07-15T04:04:42 < upgrdman> so why isnt a pools ALWAYS kept. even if its a pool of size 2 or someshit. 2016-07-15T04:05:11 < upgrdman> just to save on the opverhead of creation and destruction 2016-07-15T04:05:20 < dongs> ReadError: looks like a shitty cloneNAS 2016-07-15T04:05:32 < dongs> upgrdman: beacuse if you dont need them then theres no point 2016-07-15T04:05:34 < ReadError> well yea it is 2016-07-15T04:05:48 < ReadError> just never seen a bunch of copper clad squares 2016-07-15T04:06:13 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-15T04:07:08 < upgrdman> slab/fly are reused primitive and objects? 2016-07-15T04:08:02 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-15T04:13:42 < aandrew> sup 2016-07-15T04:13:51 < emeb> freelancers 2016-07-15T04:15:52 < jadew> R2COM, yeah 2016-07-15T04:15:56 < jadew> sup? 2016-07-15T04:16:03 < upgrdman> ohsix, well i know why to use pools. 2016-07-15T04:16:36 < upgrdman> just not sure why an invisible pool isnt always around. even if you only make 1 thread per second, if theres no drawback to a pool, why not PoolAllTheThings(tm) 2016-07-15T04:17:17 < jadew> R2COM, Qt is not far behind with its moc thing or whatever it's called 2016-07-15T04:17:40 < upgrdman> ya k 2016-07-15T04:17:50 < ReadError> ohsix you want something to waste time on 2016-07-15T04:17:59 < upgrdman> R2COM, what kind of gui do you need to make 2016-07-15T04:18:16 < upgrdman> you gonna make your own silicon mask layout tool? 2016-07-15T04:18:20 < ReadError> ive been autisiming on this idea for a while now 2016-07-15T04:18:34 < ReadError> a 'multigateway' router appliance 2016-07-15T04:18:38 < jadew> R2COM, depends on a lot of things 2016-07-15T04:18:45 < ReadError> with raw/vpn/tor routes out 2016-07-15T04:19:04 < jadew> how complex it has to be, who is going to use it, how much time you want to put into it, etc 2016-07-15T04:19:06 < ReadError> and a desktop thing that lets you specify which connections use which destination 2016-07-15T04:19:10 < ReadError> right its all possible 2016-07-15T04:19:15 < ReadError> its just theres nothing integrated 2016-07-15T04:19:29 < ReadError> like when a new connection comes up, you can say "use vpn" 2016-07-15T04:19:38 < ReadError> setup the routes etc 2016-07-15T04:19:45 < jadew> personally, I wrote a framework on top of WTL and I'm using that for the projects I care about 2016-07-15T04:19:56 < ReadError> ohsix but at an OS level 2016-07-15T04:20:06 < Chris_M> R2COM: wxwidgets 2016-07-15T04:20:16 < ReadError> sure you can 2016-07-15T04:20:25 < jadew> yeah, I like wxWidgets too, but it has its limitations 2016-07-15T04:20:29 < ReadError> setting up routes and tearing them down 2016-07-15T04:20:59 < jadew> R2COM, WTL is pretty much a C++ wrapper for win32 :) 2016-07-15T04:21:11 < jadew> it's a lot like MFC, but template based 2016-07-15T04:21:28 < jadew> you can even mix the two together 2016-07-15T04:21:38 < jadew> what Qt? 2016-07-15T04:21:50 < jadew> what, Qt? 2016-07-15T04:22:04 < jadew> yeah, it's okish 2016-07-15T04:22:49 < jadew> their only problem is that it was way ahead of its time and now c++ does some things better natively 2016-07-15T04:22:51 < ReadError> ohsix could also do some roundrobin load balancing shit 2016-07-15T04:22:59 < ReadError> if you had multiple uplinks 2016-07-15T04:23:21 < jadew> depends 2016-07-15T04:23:48 < jadew> Qt runtime > wxWidgets runtime 2016-07-15T04:24:17 < jadew> wxWidgets might be faster, but it's not as pretty 2016-07-15T04:24:23 < jadew> and doesn't have as many features 2016-07-15T04:25:03 < dongs> http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-the-french-flag-painted-on-the-silhouette-of-a-truck-glossy-illustration-111048710.jpg 2016-07-15T04:25:03 < jadew> it's worth a try 2016-07-15T04:25:20 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T04:26:02 < jadew> I can't give you any good solution, I've been in that situation myself on many occasions 2016-07-15T04:26:10 < jadew> the reality is that they all suck in some way 2016-07-15T04:26:16 < jadew> like... really really suck 2016-07-15T04:27:04 < jadew> that's why I went for writing my own thing on top of WTL 2016-07-15T04:27:17 < jadew> huge time investment, but it suits my needs the best 2016-07-15T04:28:15 < jadew> because WTL is not shit 2016-07-15T04:28:26 < dongs> ya WTL is cool 2016-07-15T04:28:27 < ReadError> ohsix whys that 2016-07-15T04:28:41 < jadew> yes, WTL sucks in that it has a huge lack of features 2016-07-15T04:29:14 < jadew> R2COM, doesn't matter, old code compiled with new compiler will usually benefit from the new features 2016-07-15T04:29:22 < ReadError> ohsix why cant it be done at the NAT level ? 2016-07-15T04:29:23 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmibTL1d4zM 2016-07-15T04:29:29 < ReadError> over 3 subnets 2016-07-15T04:29:35 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fechhwsrjyzsvkdr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-15T04:29:58 < dongs> R2COM: what teh fuck for 2016-07-15T04:29:58 < jadew> yes 2016-07-15T04:29:58 < dongs> holy shit 2016-07-15T04:30:05 < ReadError> ohsix only before/after the local gateway 2016-07-15T04:30:09 < dongs> just shut up and use qt or mfc or whatever the fuck 2016-07-15T04:30:16 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-07-15T04:30:36 < dongs> R2COM: why not just use qt/mfc/wtl/whatever and get whatever you wanna do done, and move to next proj 2016-07-15T04:31:10 < jadew> dongs, he doesn't want to spend time learning something just to drop it for the next thing, which is understandable 2016-07-15T04:31:13 < dongs> unless you're a pro like jadew who gets paid per line of code, i doubt writing your own GUI toolkit is productive way t ospend your time 2016-07-15T04:31:29 < dongs> jadew: yeah but all 4 choices hes been given are not going away anytime soon 2016-07-15T04:31:48 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-15T04:31:54 < dongs> MFC is solid, WTL is solid, even QT is solid if you don't use dumb shit, so is wxwidgets ... 2016-07-15T04:32:13 < dongs> i mean the fact that there hasn't been a breaking WTL update in literally a decade or so clearly shows it just works 2016-07-15T04:33:10 < dongs> i can find some trash i wrote in WTL in like 2001 and rebuild it with latest shit and it still works 2016-07-15T04:33:26 < dongs> try that with OPENSORES 2016-07-15T04:35:06 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Python/EEG-signal-processing-filtering-plotting/ found Laurenceb project on freecancer 2016-07-15T04:36:30 < aandrew> WTL? 2016-07-15T04:36:41 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-15T04:37:04 < dongs> windows template lib, some wrapper on top of winapi that microsoft opensoresed a while ago 2016-07-15T04:37:09 < aandrew> ah 2016-07-15T04:37:58 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T04:41:07 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T04:44:12 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/RU9G1yo.gifv 2016-07-15T04:48:46 < aandrew> hah 2016-07-15T04:49:17 < jadew> I wonder if the game stopped updating properly 2016-07-15T04:50:11 < jadew> if it suddenly starts showing a tilted image it can probably throw you off ballance 2016-07-15T04:57:29 < dongs> http://i.giphy.com/6MYRX54wogYY8.gif 2016-07-15T04:57:31 < dongs> haha 2016-07-15T05:01:14 < jadew> lol dongs, I thought it's going to crash in the traffic 2016-07-15T05:01:33 < dongs> jadew, yep 2016-07-15T05:07:18 < aandrew> lol 2016-07-15T05:07:23 < aandrew> I was in oregon in november 2016-07-15T05:08:13 < aandrew> nah man 2016-07-15T05:08:32 < aandrew> I was at a nice airport property 2016-07-15T05:08:34 < aandrew> gold rush dude 2016-07-15T05:09:15 < aandrew> no, sandy 2016-07-15T05:09:26 < ReadError> old man jack? 2016-07-15T05:09:39 < aandrew> no, todd hoffman 2016-07-15T05:10:13 < aandrew> in my previous life my ex wife and I went to phoenix for work (for me) 2016-07-15T05:10:28 < upgrdman> R2COM, why you no like ca 2016-07-15T05:10:33 < aandrew> one of the guys there had her convinced that they roll up their lawns and store them under the house during the hottest part of the year 2016-07-15T05:11:07 < aandrew> I call my previous life when I worked for an industrial power electronics mfg 2016-07-15T05:11:13 < aandrew> my current life is when I work for myself 2016-07-15T05:11:50 < aandrew> I whore myself out, trade time and experience for money 2016-07-15T05:11:56 < aandrew> nah 2016-07-15T05:12:06 < aandrew> I live near Toronto, Ontario in Canada. Oregon was nice 2016-07-15T05:12:40 < aandrew> your what? 2016-07-15T05:12:48 < upgrdman> ohsix, your in or? 2016-07-15T05:14:14 < dongs> R2COM: he's freecancering 2016-07-15T05:15:59 < dongs> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1468547027965-0.jpg 2016-07-15T05:23:14 < dongs> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/07/us-antisemitism-anti-defamation-league-echo-hate-symbol-chrome 2016-07-15T05:30:50 < dongs> that takes skill 2016-07-15T05:31:01 < dongs> talking shit about jews, you can just do it on irc 24/7 2016-07-15T05:38:30 < dongs> motherfucker 2016-07-15T05:38:44 < dongs> i jusrt sliced throgh half of my pinky finger with edge of metal stencil 2016-07-15T05:38:54 < dongs> bl,ood fuckign everywhere 2016-07-15T05:40:27 < ReadError> CA it 2016-07-15T05:40:48 < ReadError> ive worked magic with the glue 2016-07-15T05:41:05 < dongs> R2COM: haha. i dunno what this flux spray stuff is , im sure its toxic 2016-07-15T05:41:15 < dongs> the spray shit i use to clean paste/pcbs 2016-07-15T05:41:29 < dongs> you probly drink it, too 2016-07-15T05:41:36 < dongs> wen youre bored 2016-07-15T05:42:17 < dongs> thats good 2016-07-15T05:43:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T05:51:38 < dongs> R2COM: that sounds just like the kinda thing i can pickup at my corner drugstore, thanks! 2016-07-15T05:53:11 < dongs> fuck now i cant press shift 2016-07-15T05:53:21 < dongs> cuz tahts the only thing i pressed with pinky on left hand 2016-07-15T05:53:35 < dongs> hitting that with the huge bandage is pressing casplock also 2016-07-15T05:53:39 < dongs> and liek 2 otehr keys around there 2016-07-15T05:54:12 < ReadError> your capslock key does capslock? 2016-07-15T05:54:17 < ReadError> most pros remap it 2016-07-15T05:54:49 < ReadError> control 2016-07-15T05:54:53 < ReadError> for example 2016-07-15T05:55:21 < ReadError> because wtf else is it useful for 2016-07-15T05:55:33 < ReadError> ctrl is ctrl 2016-07-15T05:55:37 < ReadError> you have an extra 2016-07-15T05:56:31 < ReadError> well it sounds like you arent a candidate for pro keyboarding 2016-07-15T05:56:35 < ReadError> sorry 2016-07-15T05:56:41 < dongs> caps 2016-07-15T05:56:45 < dongs> AND ctrl? 2016-07-15T05:56:50 < dongs> fuck, i cant press ctrl either 2016-07-15T05:58:07 < dongs> crt, fucking chiense stencils raped me 2016-07-15T05:58:22 < dongs> was cleaning teh shit and got a hueg cut hrough half of my pinkyfinger 2016-07-15T05:58:48 < dongs> well i duno about you but i don't usually put stencils in my ass 2016-07-15T06:00:56 < dongs> i'd rather think if it was ohsix anus 2016-07-15T06:02:56 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T06:08:22 < ReadError> dongs no you just disable capslock and make it a control key 2016-07-15T06:09:02 < dongs> then there's no way to turen off narrator 2016-07-15T06:09:08 < dongs> if you turn it on by mistake with winkey 2016-07-15T06:09:46 < ReadError> wouldnt have this problem on a lunix desktop, sound doesnt work 2016-07-15T06:09:51 < ReadError> +1 linux 2016-07-15T06:18:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T06:22:37 < upgrdman> knowing cn, s/guy/girl is more like it 2016-07-15T06:23:39 < dongs> speaking of girls 2016-07-15T06:23:43 < dongs> upgrdman: why arent you getting laid like 24/7 2016-07-15T06:23:45 < dongs> are you gay 2016-07-15T06:23:53 < dongs> while in .cn 2016-07-15T06:24:02 < dongs> you'd pobably enjoy life more 2016-07-15T06:24:12 < dongs> if you didnt have to sleep eery night in your jizz-stained hotel room 2016-07-15T06:24:27 < dongs> i thought white man in china = guaranteed daily fucks 2016-07-15T06:25:13 < upgrdman> most of them speak no english 2016-07-15T06:25:13 < upgrdman> some of the guys speak a lil 2016-07-15T06:25:34 < dongs> point to bulge in pants, point to door 2016-07-15T06:25:37 < dongs> shouldn't need much speaking 2016-07-15T06:26:08 < upgrdman> agreed 2016-07-15T06:27:22 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hf6ke1-i3E 2016-07-15T06:27:29 < ReadError> old but im watching it again its so kewl 2016-07-15T06:27:39 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-15T06:27:41 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-15T06:28:28 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T06:31:23 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T06:33:37 < dongs> 80 dead 2016-07-15T06:33:43 < dongs> french better remove kebab after this 2016-07-15T06:34:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-15T06:36:13 < upgrdman_> wut 2016-07-15T06:36:21 < upgrdman_> did something happen again while im in cn 2016-07-15T06:36:26 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-15T06:36:47 < dongs> some truck ploewd through a frech parade or something 2016-07-15T06:36:50 * upgrdman_ fires up google news 2016-07-15T06:37:09 < dongs> apparently the guy stopped, got out to s hoot some people, then ot back into the trucka nd drove some more 2016-07-15T06:40:38 < jadew> did they get him? 2016-07-15T06:41:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T06:41:07 < dongs> donno 2016-07-15T06:41:11 < dongs> that part doesnt really matter 2016-07-15T06:49:39 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-15T06:54:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T06:55:57 < jadew> did anyone revendicated the attack? 2016-07-15T06:59:12 < ReadError> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vmware.view.client.android 2016-07-15T06:59:16 < ReadError> i kinda want this 2016-07-15T06:59:30 < ReadError> a little win10 vm for my phone, very kawaii 2016-07-15T06:59:52 < jadew> if you have a windows phone you can do that already 2016-07-15T07:00:17 < ReadError> but but, this I can run win/lunix/netbsd 2016-07-15T07:00:25 < dongs> errr what 2016-07-15T07:00:32 < dongs> how is this different from microsoft rdp client 2016-07-15T07:00:53 < dongs> wtf is horizon 2016-07-15T07:00:56 < ReadError> persistent 2016-07-15T07:01:03 < ReadError> its for their thin desktop shit 2016-07-15T07:01:42 < ReadError> i guess you could set this up with rdp 2016-07-15T07:01:49 < ReadError> just customize it a bunch of tablet/mobile 2016-07-15T07:04:31 < dongs> i duno dude, i just rdp with phone and it works fine to do like 2 things while driving, for all otehr shit i just pull out lapotp and do it properly 2016-07-15T07:04:33 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-15T07:05:17 < jadew> englishman, how much is small & decent plane? 2016-07-15T07:05:54 < englishman> depends 2016-07-15T07:06:02 < englishman> maybe cheaper in Romania 2016-07-15T07:06:22 < englishman> and you can buy portions, like 1/4 of a plane 2016-07-15T07:06:49 < englishman> for me it would be $80-100/hr 2016-07-15T07:07:03 < jadew> no, I mean to own it 2016-07-15T07:07:29 < englishman> yeah, its still per hour, since when you sell hours are like mileage 2016-07-15T07:08:00 < englishman> you can buy a small Cessna for $12k but you will pay the same per hour as a $45k plane 2016-07-15T07:08:00 < jadew> how does that work? 2016-07-15T07:08:06 < englishman> as it will need work 2016-07-15T07:08:12 < jadew> ah, I see 2016-07-15T07:08:54 < jadew> I don't think I'd feel comfortable flying in a plane that needs work hehe 2016-07-15T07:09:22 < englishman> the $12k plane you will sell for $12k and lose all the money you spent on work. The $45k plane will probably need $20k less in work done, then you sell for $40k 2016-07-15T07:09:51 < englishman> sorry but 99% of planes are 1987 Honda civics 2016-07-15T07:10:10 < englishman> but they are actually 1954 Honda civics. 2016-07-15T07:10:56 < jadew> so... 60k for one that doesn't need work? 2016-07-15T07:11:36 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T07:12:46 < jadew> englishman, thanks, if it was simpler to own one, it would have been a good selling point for moving to the country side 2016-07-15T07:12:58 < jadew> night R2COM 2016-07-15T07:14:01 < englishman> jadew: it is simpler to own one, if you fly a fucking lot, or if the money doesn't matter. But that's rare :-) 2016-07-15T07:14:50 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-07-15T07:15:59 < jadew> englishman, yeah, I just thought about it because we went on vacation and it took us 7 hours to get there by car 2016-07-15T07:17:16 < upgrdman_> ctrl-shift-esc 2016-07-15T07:17:20 < upgrdman_> or ctrl-alt-del 2016-07-15T07:17:58 < jadew> oh win+r 2016-07-15T07:18:07 < jadew> and there's shutdown 2016-07-15T07:18:50 < jadew> but since explorer handles the desktop and the taskbar, it might not work 2016-07-15T07:19:04 < jadew> (cuz it's stuck) 2016-07-15T07:19:16 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T07:22:36 < dongs> ya if start isa fukd it wont do win r 2016-07-15T07:22:46 < dongs> ctrl shift esc works tho 2016-07-15T07:24:53 -!- DLPeterson [~hazelnuss@71.202.70.71] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-15T07:31:16 < englishman> jadew: it would probably take you the same time or more with small plane 2016-07-15T07:31:23 < englishman> assuming great weather 2016-07-15T07:31:42 < englishman> its a hobby not a form of transportation 2016-07-15T07:32:24 < jadew> what's a normal speed for such planes? 2016-07-15T07:33:06 < jadew> I was hoping they'd do ~200 km/h 2016-07-15T07:37:01 < dongs> englishman: eta to purchasing boeing BBJ3 2016-07-15T07:46:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:9d06:b18:bee:1942] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T07:49:52 < dongs> ReadError: opinion on sff8087-> sata breakouts wiht power inclued? 2016-07-15T07:50:02 < dongs> i gave away some hdds and pal gonna 3dprint a hdd case 2016-07-15T07:50:09 < dongs> so obviously no sata power / bakcplane 2016-07-15T07:50:19 < dongs> is 1meter cable gonna be too shit for sata 2016-07-15T07:51:36 < jadew> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=esata+cable+length 2016-07-15T07:52:19 < dongs> o shit 2016-07-15T07:52:23 < dongs> 8 meters for mini-sas 2016-07-15T07:52:23 < dongs> k 2016-07-15T07:52:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T07:53:54 < dongs> Hi. I'm Harry. I identify as a semisexual bisexual wolfkin. My pronouns are go, get and fucked. I acknowledge my privilege. 2016-07-15T07:57:13 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T08:00:10 < englishman> jadew: I've flown slower than semi trucks on the highway 2016-07-15T08:00:23 < englishman> 200km/h+ will cost about 3x 2016-07-15T08:01:03 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-15T08:01:07 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-15T08:06:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-15T08:36:23 < ReadError> dongs you can get 4 sata per sas plug 2016-07-15T08:36:35 < ReadError> how many does he need? 2016-07-15T08:36:40 < dongs> 8 2016-07-15T08:36:48 < ReadError> ah yea just do that then 2016-07-15T08:51:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-15T08:51:39 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:10:31 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:18:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:23:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-15T09:28:56 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-15T09:34:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:37:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:39:45 < upgrdman> dongs, not sure if you've seen this yet: http://hackaday.com/2016/07/13/hackaday-prize-entry-the-worlds-first-tampon-monitor/#comments 2016-07-15T09:40:41 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/um8DwnmO/Screenshot_20160715-023934.png 2016-07-15T09:40:51 < ReadError> does that look off? 2016-07-15T09:40:57 < ReadError> like the fonts 2016-07-15T09:41:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.134] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:42:40 < dongs> ReadError: i know what looks off 2016-07-15T09:42:45 < dongs> there's an extra nickname in tehre tlaking 2016-07-15T09:43:12 < dongs> (offtopic, too) 2016-07-15T09:43:42 < ReadError> why do all android apps seem shitty and shady 2016-07-15T09:43:50 < ReadError> like why the fuck do you need to see my sms 2016-07-15T09:44:02 < ReadError> and my contacts 2016-07-15T09:44:19 < ReadError> nah i use irccloud for mobile 2016-07-15T09:44:27 < ReadError> everything else is battery murderer 2016-07-15T09:46:04 < upgrdman> comic sans FTW 2016-07-15T09:46:08 < upgrdman> use it everywhere 2016-07-15T09:46:19 < upgrdman> that or the gay font dongs uses on his smartphone 2016-07-15T09:47:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-15T09:55:23 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T09:57:34 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T09:59:55 < ReadError> best adblock for android? 2016-07-15T10:00:07 < ReadError> for chrome + yotube 2016-07-15T10:02:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T10:05:31 < ReadError> i got a nexus 2016-07-15T10:05:53 < ReadError> ive had iphone 6s, android etc 2016-07-15T10:05:58 < ReadError> i just got this for fi 2016-07-15T10:05:59 < dongs> when the fuck doyou even see ads on a phone 2016-07-15T10:06:04 < dongs> that you need to block them 2016-07-15T10:06:10 < ReadError> youtube 2016-07-15T10:06:12 < dongs> ...? 2016-07-15T10:06:23 < dongs> you mean teh shit at beginning of video? 2016-07-15T10:06:27 < dongs> like s ometimes 2016-07-15T10:06:30 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-15T10:06:34 < ReadError> 30 seconds 2016-07-15T10:06:34 < dongs> whats wron with that? 2016-07-15T10:06:39 < dongs> no, you can press skip button 2016-07-15T10:06:52 < dongs> or usually the ads i see are at least moderately interesting 2016-07-15T10:07:00 < upgrdman> do you still need root to do a hosts file to block most ads? 2016-07-15T10:07:02 < ReadError> do dixus even need rooting? 2016-07-15T10:07:02 < dongs> sometimes i even rewtweet them in here 2016-07-15T10:07:10 < ReadError> i thought they where open and pure 2016-07-15T10:07:25 < dongs> luckypatcher adds shit to hosts 2016-07-15T10:07:38 < upgrdman> ReadError, theyre unlocked, but not rooted. always running as root would be kinda bad 2016-07-15T10:08:08 < ReadError> so i read that you can get a data only fi card 2016-07-15T10:08:17 < upgrdman> ohsix, is there any way to block outs without rooting? 2016-07-15T10:08:46 < upgrdman> wuts x-posed 2016-07-15T10:08:54 < ReadError> crosspost 2016-07-15T10:09:08 < ReadError> exposed? 2016-07-15T10:10:14 < ReadError> but meh, play store has fuckall good 2016-07-15T10:10:28 < ReadError> as to be expected, nothings changed 2016-07-15T10:12:11 < ReadError> no pokeurmoms go? 2016-07-15T10:12:30 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T10:14:10 < ReadError> or just use gps emu cuz walking is work 2016-07-15T10:17:52 < ReadError> idk some guy is doing it apparently 2016-07-15T10:23:21 < dongs> so readstoner got assdroid phone just for pokemang go? 2016-07-15T10:23:46 < dongs> such dedication 2016-07-15T10:24:58 < ReadError> dongs no i got it for Fi 2016-07-15T10:25:08 < dongs> $10 for GB?? 2016-07-15T10:25:17 < dongs> complete scam lol 2016-07-15T10:25:49 < dongs> is it really 10 per gb? 2016-07-15T10:25:51 < dongs> i see this 2016-07-15T10:25:56 < dongs> Project Fi has you covered across the globe with unlimited texts, low-cost calls, and data at one flat rate of $10 per GB in 135+ countries and destinations. 2016-07-15T10:25:59 < dongs> ??? 2016-07-15T10:26:18 < ReadError> S: $35/month for 2 GB (up $5 and 1 GB) 2016-07-15T10:26:18 < ReadError> M: $50/month for 4 GB (up $5 and 1 GB) 2016-07-15T10:26:18 < ReadError> L: $70/month for 8 GB (up $10 and 2 GB) 2016-07-15T10:26:27 < dongs> yeah lol, complete scam 2016-07-15T10:26:28 < ReadError> dongs yes 2016-07-15T10:26:29 < dongs> why would you even pay for this? 2016-07-15T10:26:36 < ReadError> the prices i just posted are verizon 2016-07-15T10:27:34 < dongs> i'm currently paying $18/month for 3GB LTE and a real voice phone # (not virtual/IP shit), if I wasn't lazy I could MNP over to different provider for same price but who also carries data over to next month(s) 2016-07-15T10:27:48 < dongs> Since I barely use 500megs per month (if even thaT), I could have gigs and gigs accumulated after that 2016-07-15T10:27:52 < dongs> 10 for gb is a complete rip 2016-07-15T10:28:05 < dongs> I think in europe you get unlimited LTE for liek 20bux or someshit 2016-07-15T10:29:35 < dongs> data only in jp is like $9/3gb for all teh providers 2016-07-15T10:29:38 < dongs> and another 8bux or so for voice 2016-07-15T10:30:18 < ReadError> yea im b& from there 2016-07-15T10:31:00 < ReadError> both prolly 2016-07-15T10:31:06 < dongs> autism chats 2016-07-15T10:31:10 < ReadError> trolling legal 2016-07-15T10:31:18 < ReadError> system 2016-07-15T10:32:19 < ReadError> murder? I am kind my friend 2016-07-15T10:32:27 < ReadError> drugs, victim of society 2016-07-15T10:33:05 < ReadError> nah 2016-07-15T10:34:08 < dongs> i could see paypal'ing someone to murder ohsix 2016-07-15T10:34:13 < dongs> should be cheap 2016-07-15T10:34:28 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T10:34:38 < ReadError> NSA: I know nothing 2016-07-15T10:37:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T10:37:59 < dongs> readstoner would totally do it fo 10k+ gas money right 2016-07-15T10:38:35 < ReadError> nope 2016-07-15T10:38:55 < dongs> much disappointment 2016-07-15T10:39:58 < dongs> Fi color page is retarded 2016-07-15T10:40:02 < dongs> 3 different shades of green 2016-07-15T10:40:05 < dongs> for 2G/3G?LTE 2016-07-15T10:40:14 < dongs> absolutely impossible to tell apart 2016-07-15T10:40:15 < ReadError> you colorblind? 2016-07-15T10:40:24 < dongs> i cannot tell teh difference between them on the map 2016-07-15T10:40:36 < ReadError> coverage is pretty good, they took 3 networks 2016-07-15T10:40:42 < ReadError> and smashed them into 1 2016-07-15T10:40:52 < dongs> it looks like most of USA is only 2G 2016-07-15T10:40:55 < ReadError> maybe not in alaska tho 2016-07-15T10:40:58 < ReadError> or BFE 2016-07-15T10:41:30 < dongs> alaska coverage looks awful 2016-07-15T10:41:46 < dongs> k i can see treh difference between usa 2/3/lte 2016-07-15T10:42:59 < ReadError> lol the yellow over the blue lakes 2016-07-15T10:43:02 < ReadError> just to fuck with you more 2016-07-15T10:43:12 < ReadError> 4g? nope, lake 2016-07-15T10:48:22 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/php/Secure-Memory-Hook-for-VideoGames/ 2016-07-15T10:56:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T11:15:28 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.213] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T11:15:49 < ReadError> forever ago 2016-07-15T11:25:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-15T11:29:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:9d06:b18:bee:1942] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-15T11:31:18 < ReadError> its been a while 2016-07-15T11:31:23 < ReadError> the font they use is kinda meh 2016-07-15T11:32:01 < ReadError> ya and i liked it 2016-07-15T11:32:39 < ReadError> usb-c shit is odd 2016-07-15T11:32:54 < ReadError> like they didnt figure out which side should get which connector 2016-07-15T11:33:42 < ReadError> yea but doesnt work at this point 2016-07-15T11:34:14 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/4USB-2-1A-Power-Bank-Case-6x18650-Battery-Charger-DIY-Box-Case-For-Cell-Phone/131875149195 2016-07-15T11:34:33 < ReadError> unsure if firehazard 2016-07-15T11:34:35 < ReadError> probably 2016-07-15T11:35:29 < ReadError> yea but its 2$ shipped from china 2016-07-15T11:42:59 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-18650-3D-Printed-Battery-Sled-For-Box-Mod-With-Contacts-DarthVaper-two-pack-/201456540520?hash=item2ee7bedb68:g:2ugAAOSw9mFWL6Ep 2016-07-15T11:43:01 < ReadError> lol wtf 2016-07-15T11:44:08 < ReadError> yea retarded someone went through the effort of printing crap 2016-07-15T11:45:00 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Bomber-Mechanical-Box-Mod-Clone-Vape-Combo-with-Stillare-RDA-18650-/182053592465?hash=item2a633d5d91:g:VbQAAOSwyjBW5b6W 2016-07-15T11:45:07 < ReadError> these are the shits that explode 2016-07-15T11:45:13 < ReadError> ULTRAFIRE 2016-07-15T11:46:50 < ReadError> yea but those vapes are made for running sub-ohm 2016-07-15T11:46:56 < ReadError> so you are basically shorting it 2016-07-15T11:47:41 < ReadError> yea but see, I want one that I can use as a battery pack & charger 2016-07-15T11:48:05 < ReadError> so cells need to be able to come out somehowish 2016-07-15T11:48:57 < ReadError> they do use a similar wire 2016-07-15T11:49:11 < ReadError> kanthal 2016-07-15T11:49:57 < ReadError> or nickel which has the feedback 2016-07-15T11:50:17 < ReadError> speed 2016-07-15T11:54:54 -!- laurence_ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T11:55:08 -!- laurence_ is now known as Guest67200 2016-07-15T11:58:10 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/14/free_onedrive_microsoft_cloud_space/ 2016-07-15T11:58:11 < dongs> lol 2016-07-15T12:05:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-187.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T12:09:16 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVEkelTK1fI 2016-07-15T12:52:09 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-15T12:59:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-187.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-15T13:00:52 -!- Guest67200 [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-15T13:16:35 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T13:17:34 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-187.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T13:19:09 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-15T13:28:52 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tohnlhon1nqnx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T13:33:36 < jadew> youtube just added "I'm not interested on recommendations based on: " 2016-07-15T13:33:50 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T13:34:35 < jadew> hmm, maybe it was there all along but I didn't see it before? 2016-07-15T13:35:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T13:53:00 < jadew> ah, could be 2016-07-15T13:56:20 < jadew> ohsix, got tired of feminist news? 2016-07-15T13:57:13 < jadew> for me it seems it naturally slided out of the front page 2016-07-15T14:03:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-15T14:07:18 < jadew> crt, surprisingly no 2016-07-15T14:07:38 < jadew> science, electronics and music like usual 2016-07-15T14:08:20 < jadew> you have stuff about the attack on your homepage? 2016-07-15T14:12:30 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:12:50 < Tectu> spotted BrainDamage https://img.pr0gramm.com/2016/07/15/41760c89567f863a.jpg 2016-07-15T14:16:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-187.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-15T14:18:57 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:19:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:19:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:20:16 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:20:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:21:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:21:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:22:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:22:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:22:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:23:17 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:23:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:24:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:24:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:25:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:25:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:25:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:26:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:26:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:26:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:27:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:27:08 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:27:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:27:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:28:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:28:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:29:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:29:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:29:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:30:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:30:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:31:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:31:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:31:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:32:27 < dekar> crt, Chinese internet :/ 2016-07-15T14:32:33 < decimad> now why exactly did borland invest in yet another llvm c++ frontend? 2016-07-15T14:32:57 < dekar> I guess I'll leave you again. 2016-07-15T14:32:58 < decimad> otoh maybe it works on windows natively, that would offset it from clang 2016-07-15T14:33:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T14:33:35 < decimad> erm, embarcadero or whover bought them 2016-07-15T14:34:20 < jadew> man... how they have fallen 2016-07-15T14:34:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-187.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T14:34:59 < decimad> I had to work with delphi on an internship ;) 2016-07-15T14:35:16 < jadew> isn't turbo c, by borland? 2016-07-15T14:35:23 < dongs> yes 2016-07-15T14:35:24 < jadew> and all the turbo tools 2016-07-15T14:35:26 < dongs> that was thier last good product 2016-07-15T14:35:31 < dongs> but when they got involved with delphishit 2016-07-15T14:35:38 < dongs> now they're fuckd 2016-07-15T14:35:52 < dongs> turbo C was fucking great 2016-07-15T14:35:55 < dongs> like on DOS or somethign 2016-07-15T14:35:56 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-15T14:36:04 < decimad> although .net was created by their former employees I think 2016-07-15T14:36:06 < jadew> I still have turbo c 2016-07-15T14:36:18 < jadew> I don't use it, but it's there 2016-07-15T14:37:54 < decimad> at least you can make power with a ton of shit 2016-07-15T14:40:34 < jadew> heh ohsix 2016-07-15T14:41:44 < jadew> it sounds like the other way around than it should be 2016-07-15T14:41:54 < jadew> dongs, context: 2016-07-15T14:42:07 < jadew> [14:34.48] not as far as whoever did turbo c 2016-07-15T14:42:07 < jadew> [14:35.10] o c++builder 2016-07-15T14:42:07 < jadew> [14:35.19] isn't turbo c, by borland? 2016-07-15T14:42:07 < jadew> [14:35.26] yes 2016-07-15T14:43:34 < dongs> indeed 2016-07-15T14:47:50 < Laurenceb> lul autism filter 2016-07-15T14:48:25 < dongs> cuz for sure i'd rather be routing a board like im doing now 2016-07-15T14:48:27 < dongs> so i can get paid 2016-07-15T14:48:33 < dongs> instead of talking about some bullshit that doesnt even fucking matter 2016-07-15T14:48:45 < dongs> like how does borland affect future life of ohsix? 2016-07-15T14:48:48 < dongs> most likely NOT AT ALL 2016-07-15T14:48:55 < dongs> so why fucking even spend time typing shit about it 2016-07-15T14:49:16 < dongs> its like all those americans who are angrily arguing online about trump 2016-07-15T14:49:28 < dongs> thinking their arguing is going to make any fucking difference 2016-07-15T14:49:41 < dongs> trump will be prez, and there's nothing any of those cunts can do about it 2016-07-15T14:49:56 < dongs> so making noise online and trolling is just a waste of time 2016-07-15T14:51:43 < dongs> hmm only 3 GND pins on F405R 2016-07-15T14:53:49 < Laurenceb> trump trump trump 2016-07-15T14:53:57 < Laurenceb> cant stump the trump 2016-07-15T14:53:59 < dongs> don't you agree 2016-07-15T14:54:07 < dongs> like what other sane choice does american even have 2016-07-15T14:54:19 < dongs> shillary? plz. 2016-07-15T14:54:30 < dongs> the rest are non-starters 2016-07-15T14:54:37 < Laurenceb> ohsix right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc 2016-07-15T14:54:44 < dongs> lolz 2016-07-15T14:58:44 < Laurenceb> lul https://www.reddit.com/r/sleepyasians/ 2016-07-15T15:00:09 < dongs> any more FUNNY links Laurenceb ? 2016-07-15T15:00:38 < Laurenceb> dongs: why are asians always sleepy? 2016-07-15T15:00:57 < Laurenceb> like when I went to a conference in Nipponland, half the audience were asleep, wtf 2016-07-15T15:01:43 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-15T15:02:04 < Tectu> lol, some indian girl just called here: "Hello Sir? We are from microsoft. Our server has report that your windows computer is infected. Are you the owner? Please go to your computer and I will show you how to remove the infection." 2016-07-15T15:02:14 < dongs> lol 2016-07-15T15:02:15 < Laurenceb> we get those calls 2016-07-15T15:02:22 < dongs> i clicked some link off zippyshare 2016-07-15T15:02:24 < Laurenceb> we've trolled them a few times 2016-07-15T15:02:26 < dongs> and in popup 2016-07-15T15:02:33 < Tectu> Laurenceb, shit, I should have done that. 2016-07-15T15:02:34 < Tectu> Laurenceb, how? :D 2016-07-15T15:02:35 < dongs> jappu voice started talking in super urgent voice 2016-07-15T15:02:35 < BrainDamage> to my knowledge, it's part of their culture, falling asleep from overwork is considered a perk 2016-07-15T15:02:42 < Laurenceb> screenshare on ancient machine with goatse as background 2016-07-15T15:02:42 < dongs> 'u haz a virus, plz install this immediately to fix it" 2016-07-15T15:02:56 < Tectu> Laurenceb, LOL 2016-07-15T15:02:59 < dongs> Tectu: just setup a VM 2016-07-15T15:03:03 < dongs> with like windows xp 2016-07-15T15:03:09 < dongs> and let them fuck with it 2016-07-15T15:03:17 < Tectu> Laurenceb, what did they try to do? 2016-07-15T15:03:28 < Laurenceb> they realised it was a troll after a while 2016-07-15T15:03:32 < dongs> while they'er fucking wiht it use net send to popup those winpopup messages 2016-07-15T15:03:40 < Laurenceb> looked like they were trying to install their exploit kits 2016-07-15T15:03:42 < Tectu> dongs, I wonder if I could have kept her waiting until the VM cloning was finished 2016-07-15T15:03:46 < dongs> yes 2016-07-15T15:03:49 < dongs> shouldnt take long anyway 2016-07-15T15:03:53 < dongs> they will definietly wait 2016-07-15T15:04:00 < dongs> they wanna install thier shitware 2016-07-15T15:04:20 < Tectu> she didn't offer any puss 2016-07-15T15:05:29 -!- mrtumnus [~mrtumnus@c-73-40-144-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T15:05:55 < Tectu> Laurenceb, dongs, can I phone-forward next time? Let her install shit on goatse VM and then tell her that I have a couple of other friends with infected computers? 2016-07-15T15:06:24 < Laurenceb> no sorry lol 2016-07-15T15:06:32 < dongs> im sure Laurenceb will be super excited 2016-07-15T15:06:33 < Laurenceb> I waste enough time trolling as it is 2016-07-15T15:06:46 < Tectu> at least you admit it 2016-07-15T15:06:55 < dongs> or ohsix 2016-07-15T15:07:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T15:07:06 < dongs> that might be the only female he'd be interacting wiht in a while, too 2016-07-15T15:07:16 < Laurenceb> trolltastic 2016-07-15T15:07:22 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-07-15T15:07:46 < Laurenceb> I can catch equine immune diseases at any time 2016-07-15T15:08:10 < Laurenceb> no, might watch 2016-07-15T15:08:13 < Laurenceb> k 2016-07-15T15:08:41 < BrainDamage> found laurenceb: http://www.smartworld.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BoJack-Horseman.jpg 2016-07-15T15:08:54 < Tectu> BrainDamage, so how's como these days? 2016-07-15T15:09:26 < BrainDamage> until few days ago the humidity and temp were pretty nasty, then after a week of rain showers the climate is considerably more comfortble 2016-07-15T15:09:50 < Tectu> and the whole "swiss bastards send illegal immigrants to us" thing? 2016-07-15T15:10:07 < BrainDamage> it's not exactly new, isn't it? 2016-07-15T15:10:28 < Tectu> well I'm sorry 2016-07-15T15:10:32 < Tectu> also stop being part of the EU 2016-07-15T15:10:33 < Laurenceb> time to install some bollards 2016-07-15T15:10:39 < Tectu> Laurenceb, how's brexit doing? 2016-07-15T15:10:55 < Laurenceb> dunno it seems they decided to just delay it for forever 2016-07-15T15:11:36 < Tectu> Laurenceb, I just realized that dani filth is uk 2016-07-15T15:12:37 < BrainDamage> Tectu: i'm more irritated by swiss policy of "we're part of shengen treaty but we pretend not to when it's more comfortable to us" 2016-07-15T15:12:38 < Laurenceb> Tectu: I prefer electronica to death mental 2016-07-15T15:13:06 < Tectu> Laurenceb, I wouldn't call Craddle-of-filth death metal (and nobody else would, I hope) 2016-07-15T15:13:13 < Tectu> BrainDamage, well that's not how it is 2016-07-15T15:13:32 < Laurenceb> shows how little I care lol 2016-07-15T15:13:50 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement 2016-07-15T15:13:51 < BrainDamage> no 2016-07-15T15:14:18 < BrainDamage> you can indepedendently be a member of EEA or shengen area 2016-07-15T15:22:14 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T15:22:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-15T15:26:00 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 2016-07-15T15:29:29 < Tectu> Laurenceb, why don't you become prime minister? 2016-07-15T15:30:25 < Laurenceb> lulwut 2016-07-15T15:30:35 < Laurenceb> why would I even want that shitty job 2016-07-15T15:30:40 < Laurenceb> doesnt even pay well 2016-07-15T15:35:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.134] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T15:35:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T15:36:00 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T15:36:37 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-07-15T15:36:40 < englishman> horse telemetry pays better? 2016-07-15T15:36:51 < Tectu> and you could get yourself a stable 2016-07-15T15:37:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-15T15:37:32 < Tectu> happy horses are a good loan 2016-07-15T15:37:37 < Tectu> salary* 2016-07-15T15:39:47 < karlp> heh, cmsis 4.5 package has editor comments still in teh docs, "When using the ARM Compiler Toolchain the following Intrinsic Functions for CPU Instructions are implemented using the Embedded Assembler: __RRX, . The usage of the " 2016-07-15T15:39:54 < karlp> Bruno! why didn't you finish your job! 2016-07-15T15:40:06 < Tectu> hah 2016-07-15T15:40:25 < Tectu> how is karlp these days? 2016-07-15T15:40:58 < Tectu> karlp, also, I know some people that left their nick in printf code contributed to other projects ;) 2016-07-15T15:42:00 < karlp> not my fault that got left there for 3 years or so 2016-07-15T15:42:04 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T15:42:08 < karlp> it was debugoutput meant to capture more info. it did. 2016-07-15T15:43:18 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/NIANPU-Flashlight-battery-charger-digital/dp/B01FRT5SU0/ 2016-07-15T15:45:14 < karlp> are you buying tha tfor the batteries and charger alone or something? 2016-07-15T15:45:30 < BrainDamage> depends, are you interested in settings things on fire with light? 2016-07-15T15:46:16 < Laurenceb> http://hackaday.com/2016/07/13/hackaday-prize-entry-the-worlds-first-tampon-monitor/ lul my flow 2016-07-15T15:46:31 < ReadError> karlp just came across it 2016-07-15T15:46:37 < ReadError> i like the usb charger tho 2016-07-15T15:46:43 < BrainDamage> i've worked with lasers and no accidents because i wore protection, was careful, etc, but still managed to slightly damage my eyesight with a scuba torch rated for 1kLm 2016-07-15T15:53:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T16:00:05 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T16:19:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-103-187.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-15T16:34:47 < Steffanx> Crt where are thou? 2016-07-15T17:12:21 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T17:14:48 < dongs> lol 2016-07-15T17:15:01 < dongs> so that viktorwhatever guy from freecancer 2016-07-15T17:15:23 < dongs> who took a "pcb modification" project that was actaully "make a brand new pcb from scratch with lots of shit added" for $100 actually completed it 2016-07-15T17:15:28 < dongs> man, some peoples time is utterly worthless 2016-07-15T17:15:40 < Sync> well, if you are unemployed otherwise 2016-07-15T17:15:58 < dongs> i'd say that was about 8 hours of work with some fap breaks in between 2016-07-15T17:16:08 < dongs> 12/hr is pretty shit 2016-07-15T17:16:27 < Sync> still ok if you would be making 0 otherwise 2016-07-15T17:17:06 < dongs> mkay 2016-07-15T17:17:09 < dongs> why hte fuck isnt ohsix on freecancer then 2016-07-15T17:17:15 < dongs> sounds like he'd be winning race to the bottom 2016-07-15T17:17:21 < dongs> cuz $any is >$0 2016-07-15T17:27:37 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T17:30:17 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Cell-Phone-Motor-Starter/ 2016-07-15T17:32:04 < Sync> that is like 170€?! 2016-07-15T17:32:06 < Sync> kek 2016-07-15T17:33:49 < dongs> yes 2016-07-15T17:33:51 < englishman> pay a paki to stand there and text the farmer 2016-07-15T17:33:52 < englishman> done 2016-07-15T17:34:06 < dongs> that is probably cheaper 2016-07-15T17:34:12 < englishman> exactly 2016-07-15T17:34:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-15T17:34:23 < englishman> and you can skim some of his salary too 2016-07-15T17:38:18 < dongs> http://imgur.com/a/XBXNu wat 2016-07-15T17:40:14 < dongs> some hardcore autism there 2016-07-15T17:41:32 < englishman> hm theres a lot of room in gameboy 2016-07-15T17:42:01 < dongs> even more in atari portfolio 2016-07-15T17:45:31 < dongs> if i put a 1080p panel and a shittyberry in that, i'm gonna get instant internet credz 2016-07-15T17:45:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.134] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T17:52:44 < englishman> Screen size: 66 mm (2.6 in) diagonal 2016-07-15T17:52:51 < englishman> whats available in that size 2016-07-15T17:53:00 < englishman> thats 4:3 2016-07-15T17:53:18 < englishman> Frame Rate: Approx. 59.7 frames per second on a regular Game Boy, 61.1 on a Super Game Boy[ 2016-07-15T17:53:22 < englishman> haha does lunix support that 2016-07-15T17:54:55 < englishman> [SOLVED] Set refresh rate of the monitor 2016-07-15T17:55:00 < englishman> ah yes lunix forum posts 2016-07-15T17:55:08 < englishman> xrandr 2016-07-15T17:55:08 < englishman> arandr 2016-07-15T17:55:08 < englishman> lxrandr 2016-07-15T17:55:08 < englishman> Pick the one on your system. 2016-07-15T17:55:10 < englishman> loll 2016-07-15T18:01:44 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T18:02:46 < Laurenceb> freaking Qt 2016-07-15T18:02:56 < Laurenceb> it runs but now its maxing out my processor 2016-07-15T18:05:42 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/XixGRgB unbroken stream 2016-07-15T18:08:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-15T18:11:57 < Laurenceb> murica http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=79f_1468590636 2016-07-15T18:22:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T18:24:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-15T18:37:33 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-15T18:54:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-15T18:58:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-15T18:59:18 < Rob235> lpc1768 came in, lets see how this weird thing works 2016-07-15T19:00:55 < Rickta59> the mapleminis are a better board ohsix 2016-07-15T19:01:17 < Rickta59> they have a transistor to deal with the usb instead of the hack the bluepill uses 2016-07-15T19:02:25 < Rickta59> and they legitimately have 128k 2016-07-15T19:08:25 < Laurenceb> bluepill?? 2016-07-15T19:08:34 < Laurenceb> REDPILL dude 2016-07-15T19:08:50 < Rob235> go down the rabbit hole! 2016-07-15T19:09:20 < Laurenceb> https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/ 2016-07-15T19:10:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2016-07-15T19:13:29 < karlp> what's the best thing for drawing up cable assemblies in? 2016-07-15T19:20:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T19:21:06 < englishman> mspaint 2016-07-15T19:22:06 < Rob235> hmm this mbed web based IDE is better than I thought, haven't used it yet but looks decent 2016-07-15T19:25:44 < Steffanx> I knew about mbed, but i never knew it is supported by arm, until a few weeks ago 2016-07-15T19:26:00 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-15T19:26:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T19:26:41 < Rob235> I was just looking for something with usb host that was small and came across this, I had heard about mbed but knew nothing about it, its pretty cool that you just compile it and it downloads a bin file and you copy it to the device which shows up as a usb drive 2016-07-15T19:26:48 < Rob235> then just reboot it and its flashed 2016-07-15T19:40:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.171.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-15T19:43:18 < Thorn> you reminded me of a lpc1768 board I made in 2012 that I never wrote firmware for other than flashing LEDs :/ 2016-07-15T19:47:30 < Rob235> heh, hopefully I get further than that 2016-07-15T19:47:39 < Rob235> I hope the usb host works as I want it to 2016-07-15T19:49:22 < englishman> isnt mbed *owned* by arm 2016-07-15T19:49:29 < Rob235> no idea 2016-07-15T19:50:10 < Steffanx> Yeah, supported was totally the wrong word mr englishman 2016-07-15T19:50:49 < englishman> ah no you were right i just read it wrong 2016-07-15T19:51:03 < englishman> thought you meant 'supported' as in 'supports arm chips' 2016-07-15T19:51:17 < englishman> not as in, contributed to and maintained by arm 2016-07-15T20:10:27 < Steffanx> hah, ok. 2016-07-15T20:11:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.74] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T20:36:27 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T20:36:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T20:42:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-15T20:49:25 < carabia> out of curiosity, which compiler does mbed use? 2016-07-15T20:50:50 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T20:50:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T20:51:36 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-15T21:07:41 < Ultrasauce> afaik it has an obscenely complicated build system that supports whatever 2016-07-15T21:08:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T21:09:09 -!- Damme [~Daniel@h-203-16.a216.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T21:11:01 < Damme> Hello guys! I am developing an application that will run on different platforms (regarding io layout etc, otherwise exacly same hardware) so I wonder, what's the best way to define a bit on a port for one platform, and another bit and port on other platform. So I only include platform1.h or 2.h.. 2016-07-15T21:11:07 < Damme> I hope you can understand me :) 2016-07-15T21:12:40 < PaulFertser> Damme: what language? 2016-07-15T21:12:43 < Damme> C 2016-07-15T21:12:52 < Damme> Good question ;) 2016-07-15T21:13:45 < Damme> at the moment i do something like: LPC_GPIO0->FIOSET = (1 << 5); 2016-07-15T21:14:40 < Damme> usually I use fiopin 2016-07-15T21:15:49 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-15T21:17:21 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T21:17:25 < Damme> easy to define gpio_button (1 << 5) but I would like to be able to do something like SET(gpio_button) and gpio button is mapped to a bit on an address .. I'm rather new programmer so maybe my question is retarded :P 2016-07-15T21:17:54 < Damme> and if (gpio_button) do stuff 2016-07-15T21:19:33 < kakimir> no gliding today 2016-07-15T21:20:09 < kakimir> this channel needs url bot 2016-07-15T21:20:27 < kakimir> celeron55: tuo minihitler tänne? 2016-07-15T21:20:28 < ReadError> Damme 2016-07-15T21:20:39 < ReadError> so map it to the same address? 2016-07-15T21:21:03 < Damme> ReadError, different bit, and different address on the different platforms.. 2016-07-15T21:21:07 < ReadError> or use the naming convention for the port/pin 2016-07-15T21:21:39 < ReadError> if you want an example of it being done 2016-07-15T21:21:43 < ReadError> check out chinios 2016-07-15T21:21:56 < ReadError> chibios * 2016-07-15T21:22:10 < ReadError> they have some demos that use the board config stuff 2016-07-15T21:22:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T21:22:21 < Damme> GPIO_LCD |= LCD_A0; .. but I dont like that neither... 2016-07-15T21:23:09 < Damme> cinios I'll check that thanks! 2016-07-15T21:23:11 < ReadError> if its a different platform why does it matter 2016-07-15T21:23:16 < PaulFertser> Damme: you might need to switch to C++ then, it is a higher-level language that can provide clean interface you want without any runtime overhead. 2016-07-15T21:23:18 < ReadError> when you can just have #ifdef 2016-07-15T21:23:24 < Rob235> matplotlib is confusing me, any help? 2016-07-15T21:23:54 < PaulFertser> Damme: e.g. https://github.com/zyp/laks 2016-07-15T21:24:01 < Damme> PaulFertser, I rather want to stay with C 2016-07-15T21:24:23 < Damme> Thanks I'll look at that 2016-07-15T21:25:03 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-15T21:28:37 < Steffanx> not sure if that is the most up to date version of laks 2016-07-15T21:29:21 < Steffanx> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/ not very recent either, but probabbly more up to date 2016-07-15T21:29:52 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T21:30:55 < Damme> Hmm I use FreeRTOS, wonder if not I should have choosen ChibiOS instead 2016-07-15T21:31:27 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-15T21:34:57 < Steffanx> if you did well you can easily change, but does it really matter? I don't think chibios gives you more that freertos does not 2016-07-15T21:34:59 < Steffanx> except for the hal 2016-07-15T21:42:29 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T21:55:12 -!- mrtumnus [~mrtumnus@c-73-40-144-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-15T22:03:44 < ReadError> freertos does the HAL stuff? 2016-07-15T22:09:40 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-15T22:11:37 < Steffanx> I didnt say that, did i? 2016-07-15T22:13:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T22:13:50 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T22:21:18 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYuEEU5e50 music times 2016-07-15T22:29:47 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T22:29:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T22:31:16 < Ultrasauce> oh musicspam time? http://haoma.bandcamp.com/album/eternal-stash 2016-07-15T22:35:03 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-07-15T22:36:16 -!- Damme [~Daniel@h-203-16.a216.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T22:36:22 -!- Damme [~Daniel@h-203-16.a216.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T22:38:14 < Steffanx> music you said. Or is music spam really like unwanted music? 2016-07-15T22:41:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T22:41:20 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T22:45:40 < kakimir> or just flood of music that is not requested 2016-07-15T22:45:54 < kakimir> Ultrasauce: too dope 2016-07-15T22:46:05 < Ultrasauce> no such thing as too dope 2016-07-15T22:46:40 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T22:46:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T22:55:05 < Ultrasauce> oh man their selftitled album is really good too. got shit vibrating off my desk 2016-07-15T22:57:24 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-15T22:58:31 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-15T23:03:57 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:04:47 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:09:58 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:09:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T23:17:38 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-07-15T23:22:56 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-15T23:27:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:27:57 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T23:30:15 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:30:58 < Steffanx> Damn, real shit going on in turkey. We have no turkeys here do we? 2016-07-15T23:31:11 < Rob235> not I 2016-07-15T23:31:23 < jadew> Steffanx, what's happening? 2016-07-15T23:31:25 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2016-07-15T23:31:27 < BrainDamage> coup 2016-07-15T23:31:55 < BrainDamage> gunships firing in ankara, bridge that splits istanbul is closed 2016-07-15T23:31:56 < Steffanx> They claim it's a coup: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083 2016-07-15T23:32:01 < BrainDamage> and social media sites are blocked 2016-07-15T23:32:03 < Steffanx> yet the government says its not :P 2016-07-15T23:33:06 < BrainDamage> actually 2016-07-15T23:33:07 < BrainDamage> http://www.corriere.it/esteri/16_luglio_15/turchia-ankara-istanbul-militari-strada-colpi-arma-fuoco-8a9337bc-4ac5-11e6-8c21-6254c90f07ee.shtml 2016-07-15T23:33:08 < Steffanx> BrainDamage, is there anything you don't know? 2016-07-15T23:33:34 < BrainDamage> i know it's in italian, but the pm said it's a coup 2016-07-15T23:34:03 < BrainDamage> i was just literally discussing this in another channel moments ago 2016-07-15T23:34:35 < Steffanx> ah, i see 2016-07-15T23:35:37 < jadew> is it covered live anywhere? 2016-07-15T23:35:58 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:35:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T23:36:14 < Steffanx> http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/ 2016-07-15T23:36:57 < jadew> thanks 2016-07-15T23:37:39 < Steffanx> i thought cnn was the breaking news channel, but nothing there but "Attack in nice" 2016-07-15T23:37:51 < Steffanx> oh, it is there partially 2016-07-15T23:38:39 < jadew> is that guy talking over skype? 2016-07-15T23:38:44 < jadew> wth is wrong with the audio 2016-07-15T23:39:09 < jadew> and it's the same footage looping 2016-07-15T23:39:17 < Steffanx> i believe the text said that guy is in london 2016-07-15T23:39:46 < Steffanx> phone line it is :P 2016-07-15T23:41:22 < jadew> yeah :) 2016-07-15T23:48:14 < Thorn> what does the nato charter say about a coup in a member state? 2016-07-15T23:49:50 < karlp> Steffanx: it's not breaking nes anymore... 2016-07-15T23:50:03 < karlp> oh, nvm, I'm going to shutup, misread 2016-07-15T23:50:20 < Steffanx> heh 2016-07-15T23:50:30 < Steffanx> It's misread friday today.. 2016-07-15T23:54:21 < jadew> who owns aljazeera? 2016-07-15T23:54:21 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-15T23:54:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-15T23:56:07 < jadew> seems very open about what's going on in there 2016-07-15T23:56:15 < Steffanx> It's independent afaik. 2016-07-15T23:59:02 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] --- Day changed Sat Jul 16 2016 2016-07-16T00:04:28 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T00:05:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T00:08:06 < jadew> did that guy just said that people are happy about it? 2016-07-16T00:09:07 < BrainDamage> erdogan maintained a borderline tyrannical government 2016-07-16T00:09:17 < BrainDamage> it's really unsurprising it happened 2016-07-16T00:10:05 < BrainDamage> context since i'm recycling links from the other channel 2016-07-16T00:10:09 < BrainDamage> http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/12/the-deep-state 2016-07-16T00:10:15 < BrainDamage> http://warontherocks.com/2015/09/turkish-winter-is-coming/ 2016-07-16T00:11:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-16T00:14:33 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T00:14:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-16T00:15:16 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-16T00:18:51 < karlp> Ultrasauce: thanks for the eternal stash 2016-07-16T00:25:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:8b9:e6a:b77f:6b77] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T00:32:54 < jadew> so how do you think it will end? 2016-07-16T00:39:44 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-16T00:40:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T00:40:15 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-16T00:40:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-16T00:42:30 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-16T00:43:05 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2tvuffcwca0s.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T00:45:29 < Thorn> >Erdogan in airplane, refused landing at #Istanbul, now trying to seek asylum in Germany, US defense officials say 2016-07-16T00:46:46 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-07-16T00:46:58 < decimad> rly? 2016-07-16T00:47:41 < carabia> yo dongs, offtopic alert 2016-07-16T00:48:50 < karlp> sok, the grownups are talking about world politics, that's still on topic ;) 2016-07-16T00:49:59 < carabia> last i heard it wasn't 2016-07-16T00:50:14 < carabia> so be quiet and keep your opinions to yourself 2016-07-16T00:51:14 < jadew> carabia, got anything better to talk about? 2016-07-16T00:51:48 < carabia> yes 2016-07-16T00:52:03 < aandrew> lol 2016-07-16T00:52:09 < aandrew> fuck off with the offtopic alert bs 2016-07-16T00:52:42 < aandrew> if you have something STM32-relevant to say, say it, otherwise just enjoy the chatter 2016-07-16T00:52:46 < aandrew> you can always /ignore too 2016-07-16T00:53:20 < karlp> anyone seen this one before? sageFault due to a bad EXC_RETURN value 2016-07-16T00:53:43 < karlp> I'm thinking it's something to do with RTC backupdomain synchro bullshit failing? 2016-07-16T00:53:47 < aandrew> karlp: you still doing Qt stuff? 2016-07-16T00:53:52 < aandrew> or was that someone else? 2016-07-16T00:54:31 < karlp> nah, that was laurence 2016-07-16T00:54:42 < karlp> only ui shit I do this days is web+js shitz 2016-07-16T00:54:52 < karlp> occasionaly py gtk stuffs 2016-07-16T00:55:24 < aandrew> maybe one day you can give me a crash course on web+js shit. I am total fail on that shit 2016-07-16T00:55:36 < karlp> meh, too many options 2016-07-16T00:55:39 < karlp> too many opinons 2016-07-16T00:56:06 < karlp> I'd rather the specifically web dudes at work did that stuff, but they don't like having to run their stuff in my embedded environment, so I have to do it myself. 2016-07-16T00:56:11 < jadew> most of them are arduino level 2016-07-16T00:56:27 < jadew> that goes both for tools and the developers 2016-07-16T00:56:55 < karlp> was at a demo today where someone was raving about the hot new "chat ops" and how radical this was. 2016-07-16T00:57:05 < karlp> demoed a fucking irc bot that could read the log files. 2016-07-16T00:57:13 < karlp> fucking good fucking modern job. 2016-07-16T00:57:22 < karlp> groundbreaking shit right there 2016-07-16T00:57:30 < carabia> chill with the fucking 2016-07-16T00:58:10 < karlp> are you going to help with my UsageFault due to bad EXC_RETURN? 2016-07-16T00:59:19 < carabia> IRC is like communism and there isn't much in it for me, so no. I have other capitalist agenda to attend to. 2016-07-16T00:59:27 < Thorn> maybe stack corruption. what is the actual value that causes the failure? 2016-07-16T01:00:31 < karlp> carabia: well then, fuck you :) you can share your fucks equally :) 2016-07-16T01:00:45 < karlp> Thorn: it's something to do with wfi and deepsleep wakeup. 2016-07-16T01:01:28 < carabia> karlp, I would've, If I'd have actually given any to begin with 2016-07-16T01:06:41 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T01:07:24 < Laurenceb__> I can't even, I like I just can't, I like can't even just 2016-07-16T01:07:28 < Laurenceb__> I can't post anything 2016-07-16T01:07:40 < Laurenceb__> freaking Steffanx trolling again 2016-07-16T01:14:50 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-16T01:24:10 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-16T02:07:53 < Laurenceb__> https://gfycat.com/LikableScaredHammerheadshark 2016-07-16T02:09:41 < karlp> wat 2016-07-16T02:09:54 < Fleck> amp 2016-07-16T02:10:36 < karlp> anyone got an l1 disco lying around? does https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3-examples/blob/master/examples/stm32/l1/stm32l-discovery/button-irq-printf-lowpower/ blink leds on the board, and react to pushing the blue button for you? 2016-07-16T02:10:55 < Fleck> only l4 :/ 2016-07-16T02:12:18 < Thorn> is it the one with an lcd? 2016-07-16T02:12:36 < karlp> yeah 2016-07-16T02:12:48 < karlp> and the slider touch buttons 2016-07-16T02:14:10 < Thorn> I have a l152c-discovery (MB963C) 2016-07-16T02:15:44 < Thorn> is it the right one? example seems to be using stm32l15xxb.ld 2016-07-16T02:18:14 < karlp> yeah, doesn't matter if the ldscript is for smaller. 2016-07-16T02:18:18 < karlp> you have one of the newer ones, 2016-07-16T02:18:25 < karlp> original ones came with l152b. 2016-07-16T02:26:39 < Thorn> how do I even compile this thing 2016-07-16T02:26:42 < Thorn> libopencm3/stm32/l1/nvic.h: No such file or directory 2016-07-16T02:27:53 < karlp> run make in the top directory 2016-07-16T02:28:00 < karlp> will compile all deps first. 2016-07-16T02:28:35 < Thorn> when I do that I get libopencm3/stm32/f0/nvic.h: No such file or directory 2016-07-16T02:35:10 < Thorn> ok wtf, msys does not have find 2016-07-16T02:49:31 < jadew> are you guys still following what's happening in Turkey? 2016-07-16T02:49:39 < jadew> they just bombed the parliament 2016-07-16T03:03:13 < Thorn> msys does not have find and git for windows does not have make 2016-07-16T03:03:24 < Thorn> I wonder if this has been somehow coordinated 2016-07-16T03:07:09 < Laurenceb__> well its trying to redraw graphs at 250fps 2016-07-16T03:07:12 < Laurenceb__> I can fix that 2016-07-16T03:08:34 < Laurenceb__> ohsix knows about bluepills 2016-07-16T03:15:36 < Laurenceb__> i was drawing as fast as the packets arrived 2016-07-16T03:15:41 < Laurenceb__> I'll slow it to 25hz now 2016-07-16T03:15:53 < Rickta59> i did know about the blue / red thing that is why I picked it 2016-07-16T03:16:35 < Laurenceb__> lulwut 2016-07-16T03:16:55 < Laurenceb__> does Rickta59 have anything to do with this or is he an epin trawl? 2016-07-16T03:17:13 < Rickta59> it was my post that got people calling them redpill bluepill 2016-07-16T03:18:03 < Rickta59> http://www.stm32duino.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=117 2016-07-16T03:18:21 < Rickta59> depends on your specific board 2016-07-16T03:18:49 < Rickta59> on the ones I have i had to desolder the wrong resistor they had (10k) and then put in a 1k5 one 2016-07-16T03:19:12 < Rickta59> you would be better off with those yellow boards or the maple mini 2016-07-16T03:21:18 < Rickta59> are you going to use them with an stlink? or using the serial rom boot loader? 2016-07-16T03:21:59 < Rickta59> ic 2016-07-16T03:22:13 < Rickta59> i've never used the bootloader approach 2016-07-16T03:22:18 < Rickta59> i guess some people like it 2016-07-16T03:22:51 < Rickta59> bootloader as the maple bootloader thing that goes over the native usb 2016-07-16T03:23:30 < Rickta59> i have a pile of different discovery and nucleo boards lying aroudn all with stlink devices on them 2016-07-16T03:24:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:8b9:e6a:b77f:6b77] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-16T03:25:00 < Rickta59> i still want to snag one of those small form factor nucleo that are semi recent 2016-07-16T03:26:02 < Rickta59> libmaple? 2016-07-16T03:26:47 < Rickta59> libmaple sits at the same layer as libopencm3 2016-07-16T03:27:02 < Rickta59> or the older SPL 2016-07-16T03:27:18 < Rickta59> using it makes it harder to use CMSIS 2016-07-16T03:27:24 < Rickta59> as all the names are different 2016-07-16T03:27:36 < Rickta59> * many of the names are different 2016-07-16T03:28:04 < Rickta59> if i were to start all over again i would just ignore all those layers and just use CMSIS and access the registers directly 2016-07-16T03:28:58 < Rickta59> i'm talking about using the one CMSIS device header and the arm core headers 2016-07-16T03:29:02 < Rickta59> and skip everything else 2016-07-16T03:30:13 < Rickta59> https://github.com/insane-adding-machines/frosted I've been meaning at looking at this 2016-07-16T03:30:26 < Rickta59> to take a look at that 2016-07-16T03:33:48 < Rickta59> you are setting this up for other people? 2016-07-16T03:38:36 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-16T03:41:30 < Rickta59> yeah the matrix 2016-07-16T03:42:23 < aandrew> I figured he was talking about viagara 2016-07-16T04:05:13 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-16T04:10:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d439:3b3a:9312:602b] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T04:22:30 < Thorn> holy crap 2 hours to try and make a gnu build environment on weendows work 2016-07-16T04:22:49 < Thorn> solution: use "git for windows sdk" 2016-07-16T04:33:04 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-16T04:35:39 < Thorn> karlp: ping, the example is running 2016-07-16T04:37:30 < Thorn> it's not doing what it says in the readme though. no tick every second. only "ðwe're awake!"/"àwe're awake!" on reset 2016-07-16T04:39:25 < decimad> I think the gnu movement would have been at least twice as successful if it weren't called gnu 2016-07-16T04:41:52 < dongs> definitely 2016-07-16T04:42:11 < dongs> some of the names lunix basement dwellers pick for thier software 2016-07-16T04:42:16 < dongs> are truly embarassing 2016-07-16T04:42:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T04:59:01 < decimad> about double 2016-07-16T04:59:42 < decimad> It's double the quarter 2016-07-16T05:00:33 < decimad> gpl is a silent killer! 2016-07-16T05:01:17 < aandrew> loooks like that coup has failed 2016-07-16T05:01:32 < decimad> I bet erdogan set this 'coup' up... 2016-07-16T05:02:25 < aandrew> nah I suspected the US was behind it 2016-07-16T05:02:31 < aandrew> Turkey is fucning Daesh 2016-07-16T05:02:34 < aandrew> funding 2016-07-16T05:03:06 < aandrew> they're buying oil 2016-07-16T05:03:48 < dongs> i see we have autistic turkey expert on the line 2016-07-16T05:04:09 < dongs> lets hear ohsix banging keyboard for the next few hours 2016-07-16T05:04:14 < dongs> proving things that dont matter 2016-07-16T05:26:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-16T05:27:59 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-16T05:34:45 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T05:35:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-16T05:37:56 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4xxhVCwNlY 2016-07-16T05:55:04 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I hope I finish this drone dashboard tomorrow, wasn't expecting to spend so much time on it 2016-07-16T08:04:08 < dongs> watcha stoning up 2016-07-16T08:04:12 < dongs> just sticking it all on a single board? 2016-07-16T08:05:29 < Rob235> never used python before 2016-07-16T08:05:41 < dongs> you dont want to 2016-07-16T08:05:53 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/BYvMGo1 2016-07-16T08:07:21 < Rob235> bottom left is going to be a 3d representation of attitude and bottom right is going to be topdown view with each motor a circle with some representation of speed (color probably) 2016-07-16T08:07:25 < Rob235> I made those up 2016-07-16T08:07:34 < Rob235> I have the serial working, just don't have it set up right now so I set default values 2016-07-16T08:08:42 < Rob235> Im pretty happy with it though, it will do its job when its finished 2016-07-16T08:09:40 < Rob235> the colored star on top left represents the 4 status leds on the f4 discovery 2016-07-16T08:09:56 < Rob235> just for fun 2016-07-16T08:14:47 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_360866.html 2016-07-16T08:14:56 < ReadError> ordered this here hand cannon 2016-07-16T08:16:29 < ReadError> bears or something 2016-07-16T08:19:51 < ReadError> nah these are better for usable light 2016-07-16T08:19:58 < ReadError> http://www.cree.com/LED-Components-and-Modules/Products/XLamp/Arrays-Directional/XLamp-XHP70 2016-07-16T08:20:53 < dongs> is ohsix learning python so he can help stoners on irc 2016-07-16T08:21:15 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/led-accessories/pp_281288.html 2016-07-16T08:21:24 < ReadError> did get some of these for the 100W shits i got 2016-07-16T08:21:48 < Rob235> I'z don't need noes help 2016-07-16T08:24:22 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FRT5SU0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 2016-07-16T08:24:27 < ReadError> i got this for luls 2016-07-16T08:24:48 < ReadError> obv its not gonna put out 7000 lulmens 2016-07-16T08:27:37 < ReadError> no 2016-07-16T08:28:10 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_368125.html 2016-07-16T08:28:15 < ReadError> i order'd that though 2016-07-16T08:34:23 < dongs> got 5 dash buttons ordered 2016-07-16T08:34:32 < dongs> actually took some time to find shit in stock 2016-07-16T08:34:36 < dongs> most are like "ships by august xx" 2016-07-16T08:34:43 < dongs> only super random products were still stocked 2016-07-16T08:34:46 < dongs> is that shit popular or osmething 2016-07-16T08:35:43 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T08:37:10 < ReadError> idk i bought the entire light for 54 2016-07-16T08:38:49 < ReadError> http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?419516-Review-Convoy-L6-(XHP-70-2x26650) 2016-07-16T08:44:47 < ReadError> here u go ohsix http://www.ebay.com/itm/200W-Led-Heatsink-With-Fan-100mm-Led-Lens-Reflector-Base-Holder-DIY-/201340076964 2016-07-16T08:45:13 < dongs> are y ou joking 2016-07-16T08:45:17 < dongs> ohsix cant afford that 2016-07-16T08:46:22 < ReadError> wonder if that shit even works 2016-07-16T08:46:29 < ReadError> 200W LED has to be pretty cray 2016-07-16T08:47:31 < ReadError> sure but how long 2016-07-16T08:48:07 < dongs> oh 2016-07-16T08:49:03 < ReadError> http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php 2016-07-16T08:49:14 < ReadError> this site has a lot of the diy shit 2016-07-16T08:51:39 < dongs> http://puu.sh/q31R2/56fa283634.jpg 2016-07-16T08:52:17 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-16T08:52:30 < ReadError> hmm ya i think 2016-07-16T09:23:02 -!- autism-radar is now known as autistic-spanner 2016-07-16T09:26:05 < emeb_mac> I'm your ice-cream man, stop me as I'm passing by... 2016-07-16T09:29:49 < dongs> https://www.trndlabs.com/featured_item/pokedrone/ haha wat 2016-07-16T09:29:56 < dongs> also: amazon dash actually uses vbat 2016-07-16T09:32:39 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 300 seconds.] 2016-07-16T09:35:01 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T09:41:09 < ReadError> been building out the new NAS 2016-07-16T09:43:02 < ReadError> ? 2016-07-16T09:43:13 < ReadError> o 2016-07-16T09:51:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-16T09:51:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T09:53:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.113] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T09:56:31 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.82.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T10:03:42 < Jak_o_Shadows> eh, that pokedrone could work as long as it is actually running on the drone 2016-07-16T10:03:46 < Jak_o_Shadows> and just screen mirrored over 2016-07-16T10:04:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-16T10:05:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T10:06:02 < ReadError> why is sending creditcard offfers and shit legal still 2016-07-16T10:06:14 < ReadError> but there is CANSPAM and the FCC NO-CALL LIST 2016-07-16T10:10:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T10:10:54 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-16T10:11:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-07-16T10:14:11 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.82.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-16T10:21:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-16T10:24:27 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-16T10:25:54 < ReadError> ya 2016-07-16T10:26:21 < ReadError> man these LED people are crazy 2016-07-16T10:26:28 < ReadError> removing domes off LEDs 2016-07-16T10:26:32 < ReadError> and all kinds of shit 2016-07-16T10:27:13 < ReadError> y 2016-07-16T10:27:28 < ReadError> idk a bunch do tho 2016-07-16T10:27:33 < dongs> they got more time than ohsix i guess 2016-07-16T10:28:01 < ReadError> take the cover off the cpu? 2016-07-16T10:28:02 < ReadError> wtf 2016-07-16T10:28:28 < BrainDamage> if you remove the cover of the led you'd make both the beam pattern more narrow and the led considerably less efficient 2016-07-16T10:28:52 < BrainDamage> you'll get smaller critical angle and more light bouncing off at led-air interface 2016-07-16T10:29:07 < BrainDamage> being reflected towards the die and being reabsorbed 2016-07-16T10:29:45 < ReadError> yea says less lulmens but more throw 2016-07-16T10:33:32 < dongs> 180008391523 2016-07-16T10:33:34 < dongs> err 2016-07-16T10:33:39 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/sensor-PCB/ 2016-07-16T10:35:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/Design-PCB-Layout/ 2016-07-16T10:35:15 < dongs> haha 2016-07-16T10:36:48 < ReadError> whats under it? 2016-07-16T10:36:56 < ReadError> figured the heatsink would destory it 2016-07-16T10:37:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d439:3b3a:9312:602b] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-16T10:38:12 < ReadError> oh ya those 2016-07-16T10:38:29 < ReadError> old amd shit heh OC'ing 2016-07-16T10:38:43 < ReadError> with the bridging 2016-07-16T10:41:13 < ReadError> crt u are led pro? 2016-07-16T10:44:13 < ReadError> what would you do if you wanted to make a hand held lulmen canon 2016-07-16T10:44:41 < ReadError> maximum luls in a handheld package 2016-07-16T10:44:54 < ReadError> lumens 2016-07-16T10:45:15 < ReadError> i think the reflector and heatsink is gon be tricky 2016-07-16T10:46:40 < ReadError> melting solder? 2016-07-16T10:48:22 < ReadError> http://www.cree.com/LED-Components-and-Modules/Products/XLamp/Arrays-Directional/XLamp-XHP70 2016-07-16T10:48:36 < ReadError> them any good? 2016-07-16T10:55:23 < jpa-> 7x7mm, 32W.. how does one cool that down? 2016-07-16T10:59:39 < ReadError> jpa- they try to put heatsinks in the heads 2016-07-16T11:02:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.206.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T11:02:48 < ReadError> or the folks that just rawdawg a bunch of LEDs with some low watt resistors 2016-07-16T11:02:56 < ReadError> see that a lot 2016-07-16T11:03:24 < dongs> 10 niggawatts 2016-07-16T11:10:19 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T11:11:02 < BrainDamage> we'll therefore mark this time as the channel's renaissance period 2016-07-16T11:19:06 < dongs> haha 2016-07-16T11:19:40 < ReadError> [04:05:03] ohsix: i remember dongs talking about safe spaces and those twitter block lists 2016-07-16T11:19:42 < ReadError> explain dongs 2016-07-16T11:20:27 < dongs> why should i give a fuck 2016-07-16T11:20:52 < ReadError> you once believed in safespaces and twitter block list? 2016-07-16T11:21:10 < dongs> i have no idea what youre tlaking about 2016-07-16T11:22:00 < ReadError> [04:05:03] ohsix: i remember dongs talking about safe spaces and those twitter block lists 2016-07-16T11:22:01 < ReadError> [04:05:27] ohsix: isn't that ironic 2016-07-16T11:22:01 < ReadError> [04:05:30] ohsix (ohsix@72.35.133.5) left the channel 2016-07-16T11:22:05 < ReadError> thats all that happened 2016-07-16T11:22:11 < dongs> shrugging furiously 2016-07-16T11:23:09 < dongs> nah he just emailed me some rage, so hopefully its semi-permanent 2016-07-16T11:23:12 < dongs> must be quitting electronics 2016-07-16T11:23:50 < dongs> i've been binning his emails for the last few months 2016-07-16T11:31:53 < ReadError> hes been just sending you random emails knowing you arent replying? 2016-07-16T11:34:08 < dongs> hasnt he been "talking" to me in the channel knowing well that I've had him on ignore for months? 2016-07-16T11:35:35 < ReadError> yea but thats different than opening up an email and typing shit 2016-07-16T11:35:43 < dongs> no its not 2016-07-16T11:36:14 < ReadError> effort wise 2016-07-16T11:37:50 < dongs> damn wtf 2016-07-16T11:37:57 < dongs> either me or molex fucked up 2016-07-16T11:38:05 < dongs> 2 different height connectors but 3d model is same height 2016-07-16T11:43:36 < dongs> ok 3rd height defintiely works correctly 2016-07-16T11:43:36 < dongs> wtfff 2016-07-16T11:43:44 < dongs> so the 2 models are same 2016-07-16T11:46:34 < ReadError> finally got a quickcharger adapter thing for my car, didnt realize how much that shit output 2016-07-16T11:47:02 < dongs> QC2.0? 2016-07-16T11:47:09 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-16T11:47:13 < dongs> that shit is awesome 2016-07-16T11:54:53 < ReadError> ya 2016-07-16T11:56:05 < ReadError> guess its 3.0 now 2016-07-16T11:56:18 < ReadError> Specifically, Quick Charge 3.0 offers a more granular range of voltages: 200mV increments, from 3.6V to 20V. That way your phone can target one of dozens of power levels. 2016-07-16T11:56:23 < ReadError> fuckin nuts 2016-07-16T11:56:26 < dongs> oh 2016-07-16T11:56:29 < dongs> 2.0 is just 9/12/ then 2016-07-16T11:56:35 < dongs> thats more than enough 2016-07-16T11:56:38 < dongs> duno anything that supports 3.0 2016-07-16T11:56:45 < dongs> tons of charger end chips taht emulate 2.0 2016-07-16T11:56:50 < ReadError> Quick Charge 3.0 will be available in some of our newest Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, including the Snapdragon 820, 620, 618, 617, and 430 (two of the processors we announced this week), so you can expect to see it in next year’s round of smartphones and tablets. 2016-07-16T11:56:52 < dongs> thats going into my superchargerPRO 2016-07-16T11:56:54 < ReadError> from qualcomm 2016-07-16T11:57:00 < dongs> 2.0 that is 2016-07-16T11:57:00 < ReadError> sept 2015 2016-07-16T11:57:01 < dongs> 3.0 is meh 2016-07-16T11:57:27 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-16T11:57:37 < ReadError> god damnit 2016-07-16T11:57:43 < ReadError> > browser crashes 2016-07-16T11:57:53 < ReadError> >> lets reopen everything that just crashed it 2016-07-16T11:58:23 < dongs> yeah fuck chrome autoreopen shit 2016-07-16T11:58:27 < dongs> i always say no to it 2016-07-16T11:58:52 < ReadError> failfox does it automatically 2016-07-16T12:00:39 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T12:04:13 < zyp> I picked up a power bank thing in jp that supports QC 3.0 2016-07-16T12:04:29 < zyp> bought it because it also has usb-c though 2016-07-16T12:04:46 < zyp> I think the usb-c port also does PD 2016-07-16T12:07:01 < dongs> zyp, whjere the fuck did you find? 2016-07-16T12:07:11 < dongs> i went all over biccamera with WPC1.2 pal looking for battery banks and shit 2016-07-16T12:07:14 < dongs> there was nothing but cheap chink trash 2016-07-16T12:07:27 < dongs> not a single thing wiht QC and only like one wireless charging pad 2016-07-16T12:07:27 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T12:07:57 < dongs> and shit like sony 5600mAh thing for like $90 2016-07-16T12:10:05 < zyp> https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01GZKIE1K 2016-07-16T12:10:11 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-16T12:10:17 < dongs> oh you mean you actually ordered 2016-07-16T12:10:20 < dongs> physical stoers have fuck off 2016-07-16T12:10:34 < zyp> oh, nice discount, I paid 3900 2016-07-16T12:11:10 < zyp> and yeah, I ordered, stores didn't have much usb-c at all 2016-07-16T12:11:10 < dongs> 12000mAh?? 2016-07-16T12:11:11 < dongs> what the fuck 2016-07-16T12:12:24 < dongs> well, ill just order it too i guess 2016-07-16T12:12:47 < dongs> crazy shit tho, why wouldnt physical storesd have that stuff 2016-07-16T12:12:49 < zyp> ah, it doesn't do PD, it was the wall charger thing I bought that does PD 2016-07-16T12:13:01 < dongs> yeah dont carea bout PD< pretty good for a mobile battery 2016-07-16T12:13:02 < dongs> with QC 2016-07-16T12:13:29 < zyp> yeah, my phone doesn't support PD either 2016-07-16T12:17:10 < zyp> https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012 <- I considered this thing as well, but it looked too fucking big 2016-07-16T12:17:21 < zyp> apparently it's not on amazon anymore, but it was when I checked 2016-07-16T12:17:40 < dongs> anker is chink brand t ho 2016-07-16T12:18:02 < dongs> then again, so is tronsmart probly 2016-07-16T12:18:04 < dongs> whatever the hell that is 2016-07-16T12:18:13 < zyp> probably 2016-07-16T12:18:18 < zyp> the other anker shit I have is good 2016-07-16T12:25:28 < dongs> chargerpal is gonna make QC2.0 client 2016-07-16T12:25:36 < dongs> since there doenst seem to exist an IC for it 2016-07-16T12:25:40 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-paitnvdeiknynybr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-16T12:25:54 < dongs> lots for qc server (= charger) but none for client 2016-07-16T12:26:02 < dongs> to negotiate higher voltage w/qc charger 2016-07-16T12:26:09 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T12:26:15 < dongs> iguess only qualcock charger/wahtever PMIC has it 2016-07-16T12:27:50 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zsgkhesjripujmto] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T12:33:10 < zyp> I think those usb-c sideband shits I looked at the other day also could do QC 2016-07-16T12:35:23 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T12:35:34 < dongs> i dont think so 2016-07-16T12:36:08 < zyp> http://www.cypress.com/products/usb-type-c-and-power-delivery 2016-07-16T12:36:20 < zyp> table under features says CCG3 can do «BC 1.2, Legacy Apple, QC 2.0 Charger Detection» 2016-07-16T12:36:38 < zyp> unsure if detection implies that it can also ask for higher voltages 2016-07-16T12:37:02 < zyp> datasheet says «Charger Detection / Emulation for USB BC1.2 and other proprietary protocols» but doesn't mention QC by name 2016-07-16T12:37:35 < dongs> ah hmmm 2016-07-16T12:37:38 < dongs> 'proprietary' 2016-07-16T12:38:10 < zyp> it is a proprietary qualcomm thing 2016-07-16T12:38:20 < zyp> as far as I know 2016-07-16T12:40:08 < zyp> and I assume reason there's nothing available for client is because qualcomm wants you to buy their chips for it 2016-07-16T12:40:53 < dongs> right 2016-07-16T12:45:07 < zyp> looks like QC protocol is just voltages on the data lines 2016-07-16T12:45:16 < zyp> judging by this https://blog.oxplot.com/quickcharge/ and this http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/328/chiphy_family_datasheet-269468.pdf 2016-07-16T12:49:18 < zyp> I thought it would be digital signalling through vbus like like PD 2016-07-16T12:49:52 < dongs> nope 2016-07-16T12:49:56 < dongs> its just voltages and some timing 2016-07-16T12:54:38 < dongs> chy100 is actually in a bunch of cheap chink chargers 2016-07-16T12:55:14 < dongs> there's also a holtek MCU 2016-07-16T12:55:24 < dongs> wpc guy went through a shitload of chink chargers 2016-07-16T12:55:33 < dongs> and they all had this mysterious SOIC16-ish 2016-07-16T12:55:41 < dongs> all with numbering lasesred off 2016-07-16T12:55:44 < dongs> and then finally boom 2016-07-16T12:55:46 < dongs> one didnt laser off 2016-07-16T12:55:49 < dongs> and its some holtek trash 2016-07-16T13:05:56 < dongs> what do tehy do 2016-07-16T13:06:02 < dongs> poh 2016-07-16T13:06:03 < dongs> oh 2016-07-16T13:06:06 < dongs> those CHxxx usb shgits 2016-07-16T13:16:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@90-225-99-218-no236.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T13:17:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-16T13:24:02 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2tvuffcwca0s.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-16T13:41:59 < ReadError> http://www.banggood.com/Universal-10x40-Hiking-Concert-Camera-Lens-MonocularPhone-Holder-For-Smartphone-p-1057615.html 2016-07-16T13:47:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T14:20:50 < jadew> is it just me or is this page down? https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 2016-07-16T14:20:56 < jadew> it's been like this the whole morning 2016-07-16T14:21:33 < jadew> the one day when I decide to fix my dad's PC 2016-07-16T14:22:17 -!- Damme [~Daniel@h-203-16.a216.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-16T14:22:21 < jadew> thanks 2016-07-16T14:22:30 < jadew> weird they'd let it go like this for so many hours 2016-07-16T14:23:35 < jadew> already bought a license 2016-07-16T14:28:16 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T14:28:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-16T14:35:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.83] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T14:40:18 < Steffanx> works for me, at least now it does jadew :P 2016-07-16T14:41:06 < jadew> Steffanx, still doesn't work for me 2016-07-16T14:41:40 < jadew> oh well, I'll give it a try later today 2016-07-16T14:42:13 < Steffanx> maybe it works when i give you a download link? Not sure if restricted somehow 2016-07-16T14:42:37 < jadew> we can try it if it's not too much trouble 2016-07-16T14:42:47 < Steffanx> not really. 2016-07-16T14:42:52 < Steffanx> type, version, language? 2016-07-16T14:43:04 < jadew> english, 64 bit pro 2016-07-16T14:43:41 < Steffanx> 10 N, 10KN, 10 or single language? 2016-07-16T14:44:00 < jadew> Steffanx, don't know what those are 2016-07-16T14:44:25 < jadew> single language I guess? 2016-07-16T14:45:49 < jadew> they probably have different servers for different regions 2016-07-16T14:46:07 < Steffanx> windows 10 doenst seem to be an option to select, just windows 10 or one of the other n/kn or single lang 2016-07-16T14:46:24 < jadew> let me check what that means 2016-07-16T14:46:43 < Steffanx> europe/korean or something 2016-07-16T14:48:08 < karlp> Thorn: yeah, if it just does the "we're awake" that means it's crashed like it does for me. thanks for testing, glad to oknow it's not just some weird local busted hardware. 2016-07-16T14:48:22 < Steffanx> yes, he left and i dont care crt. 2016-07-16T14:49:51 < jadew> who left? 2016-07-16T14:52:26 < Steffanx> ohsix he is refering to, i think jadew 2016-07-16T14:53:05 < Laurenceb__> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1467681624038.webm 2016-07-16T14:54:11 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-16T14:57:10 < jadew> Laurenceb__, she looks like if she'll keep getting triggered, she might eventually blow up 2016-07-16T15:19:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-16T15:29:57 < dongs> awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 2016-07-16T15:42:08 < Fleck> lold...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkx4qZCCHqI 2016-07-16T15:49:53 < dongs> what part is funny 2016-07-16T15:51:54 < dongs> Per the Federal Aviation Administration’s notice to airmen (NOTAM), U.S. airline carriers are prohibited from flying to or from Istanbul and Ankara airports. All airline carriers, regardless of country of registry, are prohibited from flying into the United States from Turkey either directly or via third country. 2016-07-16T16:02:04 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-16T16:06:14 < Laurenceb__> https://quotes.k0nsl.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/good-goy.jpg 2016-07-16T16:06:27 < Laurenceb__> we need a Steffanx face meme 2016-07-16T16:16:28 < jadew> Steffanx, thanks a lot for the link, just finished installing 2016-07-16T16:16:39 < Steffanx> installed pro? 2016-07-16T16:16:43 < jadew> Steffanx, yep 2016-07-16T16:16:48 < Steffanx> Great :) 2016-07-16T16:16:49 < dongs> pro what 2016-07-16T16:17:03 < jadew> w10 on my dad's laptop 2016-07-16T16:17:06 < dongs> i'm interested in anything pro 2016-07-16T16:17:06 < dongs> oh 2016-07-16T16:17:09 < dongs> what was the link for then? 2016-07-16T16:17:24 < jadew> I couldn't access the download page 2016-07-16T16:17:45 < dongs> en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_apr_2016_x64_dvd_8705583.iso i hope this is what you installed 2016-07-16T16:18:12 < jadew> Win10_1511_2_English_x64.iso 2016-07-16T16:18:29 < dongs> sha1 1B247B5B348E78C9BC3AFD3C1CBE10CEE3D1B9D5 2016-07-16T16:18:42 < dongs> but _2_ sounds like its the 2nd major update which is hte apr one. 2016-07-16T16:18:50 < dongs> s oyoure probly ok 2016-07-16T16:19:00 < Steffanx> This was the official iso from MS. 2016-07-16T16:19:00 < dongs> you grabbed it using microsoft iso download tool or whatever? 2016-07-16T16:19:03 < dongs> ya 2016-07-16T16:19:10 < dongs> so is the one i pasted, thats on msdn downloads. 2016-07-16T16:19:21 < dongs> im still waiting for august rollup :( 2016-07-16T16:19:28 < dongs> then i will finally switch to 950PRO 2016-07-16T16:19:29 < jadew> Steffanx was able to load that page so he went there and gave the ULR to me 2016-07-16T16:19:39 < jadew> the sha matches the one you gave me 2016-07-16T16:19:43 < dongs> cool 2016-07-16T16:19:46 < dongs> thats official the n 2016-07-16T16:20:11 < jadew> yeah, probably one of their web servers was having issues 2016-07-16T16:24:10 < dongs> hmm 2016-07-16T16:24:23 < dongs> since jcsat2b went live, aol now has 2 20mbit transponders for satellite internet 2016-07-16T16:28:00 < Laurenceb__> all praise Musk 2016-07-16T16:28:11 < dongs> wat did he do 2016-07-16T16:28:14 < dongs> oh right 2016-07-16T16:28:53 < dongs> qrd 2016-07-16T16:28:55 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-16T16:29:20 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/tPVDAFr.png 2016-07-16T16:29:24 < dongs> what a bizzare constellation 2016-07-16T16:29:39 < Laurenceb__> http://www.dildohoverboard.com/Dildo/Hoverboard.html 2016-07-16T16:29:43 < Laurenceb__> kickstarter tiem 2016-07-16T16:29:48 < dongs> its qpsk but extra trash that looks like 8psk 2016-07-16T16:30:03 < Laurenceb__> maybe its broken lol 2016-07-16T16:30:33 < Laurenceb__> there were some seriously broken constellations on Astrium shit when I worked for them 2016-07-16T16:30:51 < Laurenceb__> "just let the FEC filter it out" 2016-07-16T16:32:17 < Laurenceb__> he's raking in the $$ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m 2016-07-16T16:33:37 < dongs> haha 2016-07-16T16:33:47 < dongs> fucking fail. 2016-07-16T16:34:48 < dongs> Z:\NICE-NET_A2.asf 2016-07-16T16:35:59 < ReadError> needs more fritzing diagrams 2016-07-16T16:36:56 < dongs> are there any? 2016-07-16T16:37:08 < Laurenceb__> not bad for ~500 lines of c and copypastered eagle 2016-07-16T16:38:33 < dongs> http://www.media-links.co.jp/media-links/service03/3-1-0.html/ 2016-07-16T16:50:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.242] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T16:52:52 < dongs> https://edfries.wordpress.com/2016/05/25/fixing-color-gotcha/ 2016-07-16T16:53:24 < ReadError> ebay been fucking up hard lately 2016-07-16T16:53:30 < ReadError> click shit and its like item is unavail 2016-07-16T16:57:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-16T16:59:18 * Laurenceb__ wonders if mechaduino guy is actually going to release his matlab scripts 2016-07-16T16:59:23 < Laurenceb__> or if they actually exist 2016-07-16T16:59:40 < ReadError> for drive tuning? 2016-07-16T16:59:57 < Rickta59> https://github.com/jcchurch13?tab=repositories probably be there if he does 2016-07-16T17:01:02 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: PID tuning and all the compensation autocalibration he claims 2016-07-16T17:01:11 < ReadError> thats teh hardest part 2016-07-16T17:01:16 < Laurenceb__> compensation & autocalibration 2016-07-16T17:01:18 < Laurenceb__> exactly 2016-07-16T17:01:39 < ReadError> those magnetic encoder ics are neat 2016-07-16T17:01:42 < Laurenceb__> yet his firmware is 500 lines of basic pid + serial interface to matlab 2016-07-16T17:01:44 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-07-16T17:01:49 < ReadError> i have 2 i need to put on my mtb still 2016-07-16T17:02:34 * Laurenceb__ is tempted to kickstart a similar thing but done properly 2016-07-16T17:02:41 < Laurenceb__> "1 button automatic setup" 2016-07-16T17:03:06 < dongs> copypasting calibration shit is hilarious 2016-07-16T17:03:10 < dongs> into arduino 2016-07-16T17:03:13 < dongs> like, wat 2016-07-16T17:03:20 < Laurenceb__> I know lol 2016-07-16T17:03:30 < Laurenceb__> and I still can't see the actual codez to do it 2016-07-16T17:04:21 < Laurenceb__> hmm labview 2016-07-16T17:04:22 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/jcchurch13/Stepper_Driver/blob/master/Chopper%20Calculations/Chopper%20Calculations.lyx 2016-07-16T17:04:32 < Laurenceb__> thats nowhere near long enough 2016-07-16T17:04:52 < Laurenceb__> serious business https://github.com/jcchurch13/Stepper_Driver/blob/master/Chopper%20Calculations/Chop.m 2016-07-16T17:05:49 < dongs> tried sending a LinkedIn request to him and didn’t get a response, but I did notice my friend Jeri Ellsworth was connected to him. At my request she sent a nice introduction mail to which he responded right away. 2016-07-16T17:05:54 < dongs> hahahahah 2016-07-16T17:05:58 < dongs> jerry ellsworth strikes again 2016-07-16T17:06:41 < Laurenceb__> who is him? 2016-07-16T17:07:02 < Laurenceb__> its Jeri and Maya Posch all the way down 2016-07-16T17:07:41 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-16T17:08:46 < Laurenceb__> who the heck is Pant man? 2016-07-16T17:11:53 < Laurenceb__> ok 2016-07-16T17:12:33 < dongs> maya fucking posch, ugh 2016-07-16T17:12:41 < dongs> i think #stonertronics still has a hardon for him 2016-07-16T17:13:10 < dongs> what th christ, he got a custom feenode ircname tag 2016-07-16T17:13:11 < dongs> server-side 2016-07-16T17:13:24 < dongs> 23:12 [feenode] -!- idle : 0 days 1 hours 38 mins 47 secs [signon: Mon Jun 27 05:44:46 2016] 2016-07-16T17:13:27 < dongs> 23:12 [feenode] -!- : Maya-sama 2016-07-16T17:13:29 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-07-16T17:13:29 < dongs> the mnaya-sama shit 2016-07-16T17:13:43 < Laurenceb__> apparently he got arrested and shit 2016-07-16T17:13:49 < Laurenceb__> readin his blogz 2016-07-16T17:13:58 < Laurenceb__> he dindu muffin 2016-07-16T17:14:26 < Laurenceb__> smashing up an art gallery and shit after getting triggered 2016-07-16T17:15:24 < dongs> who 2016-07-16T17:15:28 < dongs> maya? 2016-07-16T17:17:17 < Laurenceb__> sounds liveleak worthy, pity there is no video 2016-07-16T17:20:27 < Laurenceb__> I can't take maya blog seriously 2016-07-16T17:20:35 < Laurenceb__> every paragraph is like this 2016-07-16T17:20:54 < Laurenceb__> Even though part of me continues to optimistically march forward through this hellscape that is life, the remainder feels just pain and wishes for death. 2016-07-16T17:21:06 < dongs> haha 2016-07-16T17:21:14 < Laurenceb__> hundreds of pages of this shit 2016-07-16T17:21:24 < dongs> you do wat gets teh dicks up 2016-07-16T17:21:49 -!- decimad [~deci@ip5f5be545.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has left ##stm32 ["Closing Window"] 2016-07-16T17:27:52 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-16T17:31:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.114] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T17:46:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T17:47:13 < Rob235> soooo tired... took forever to fall asleep last night 2016-07-16T18:00:12 < Rob235> caffeine to the rescue 2016-07-16T18:40:58 < jpa-> and so the feedback loop starts 2016-07-16T18:41:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-16T18:41:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T18:41:47 -!- kuldeep is now known as Guest61719 2016-07-16T18:44:52 -!- Guest61719 [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-16T18:44:52 -!- Guest61719 [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T18:45:28 -!- Guest61719 is now known as kuldeep 2016-07-16T18:47:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-16T18:47:56 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T18:58:24 < brianx> just say no. 2016-07-16T19:25:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-16T19:26:09 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-16T19:26:14 < Laurenceb__> http://hackaday.com/2016/07/15/hackaday-prize-entry-linear-stepper-motors/ 2016-07-16T19:26:18 < Laurenceb__> so noob 2016-07-16T19:26:21 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T19:26:31 < Laurenceb__> I have a bunch of linear steppers on my desk ffs 2016-07-16T19:36:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.206.53] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-16T19:40:29 < jadew> my dad's new laptop sucks 2016-07-16T19:40:56 < jadew> I was trying to figure out why it's not snappy enough 2016-07-16T19:41:16 < jadew> celeron @ 1.6 GHz 2016-07-16T19:42:01 < BrainDamage> celery* 2016-07-16T19:42:08 < jadew> now I know why he wasn't in a hurry to get it back 2016-07-16T19:43:36 < jadew> anyway, I also repurposed the rPI synth 2016-07-16T19:43:45 < jadew> installed retropie on it and it's great 2016-07-16T19:43:54 < jadew> played some super mario 2016-07-16T19:45:45 < Steffanx> Also gave him an SSD for free jadew? 2016-07-16T19:46:24 < jadew> Steffanx, who? 2016-07-16T19:46:32 < Steffanx> your dad. 2016-07-16T19:46:36 < jadew> I think he got it as a present 2016-07-16T19:47:19 < jadew> it has a HDD 2016-07-16T19:47:26 < jadew> 500 Gb, 4 Gb of RAM 2016-07-16T19:47:30 < Steffanx> I mean, every laptop needs that nowadays. 2016-07-16T19:47:50 < jadew> yeah, I should have gotten him one, but didn't know what this laptop can do 2016-07-16T19:54:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T20:17:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T20:18:15 < Rob235> got the x8r receiver finished: http://imgur.com/lIialwN 2016-07-16T20:19:12 < ReadError> telemetry? 2016-07-16T20:19:25 < Rob235> no, reading in from wired serial for now 2016-07-16T20:19:30 < Rob235> for testing 2016-07-16T20:19:36 < Rob235> I'll use telemetry later 2016-07-16T20:22:52 < Steffanx> Are you drawing that using mathplotlib Rob235? 2016-07-16T20:22:58 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-16T20:23:11 < Rob235> first time using python 2016-07-16T20:23:42 < Steffanx> why not using PyQt or something? 2016-07-16T20:25:08 < Rob235> matplotlib was the first thing I came across, I'm sure there are better ways but this is working 2016-07-16T20:25:12 < Rob235> what is pyqt used for 2016-07-16T20:25:53 < Steffanx> Qt with python bindings. 2016-07-16T20:26:00 < Steffanx> i mean, python bindings for Qt 2016-07-16T20:26:02 < Rob235> oh shit there is a qt designer with drag&drop 2016-07-16T20:26:09 < Rob235> oh well 2016-07-16T20:26:16 < Rob235> I'm not starting over :) 2016-07-16T20:26:43 < Steffanx> it's all up to you 2016-07-16T20:28:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50-46-143-36.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T20:56:58 -!- mra90 [~Martin@brp167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T21:04:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@50-46-143-36.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-16T21:14:45 < kakimir> orphan wild animal - take or leave? 2016-07-16T21:15:52 < Steffanx> Depends on the kind of animal. Otherwise, take it too the people that know how to handle it. Or let mother nature take care of it. 2016-07-16T21:16:41 < kakimir> note: having wild animal as pet is illegal 2016-07-16T21:17:02 < kakimir> also fuks up life of wild animal to live domesticated 2016-07-16T21:18:09 < Steffanx> You answered your own question 2016-07-16T21:18:47 < BrainDamage> just put laurence in a cage 2016-07-16T21:19:49 < Steffanx> Towel over the cage so he'll keep quiet? 2016-07-16T21:20:21 < BrainDamage> he'll still be shitposting everywhere 2016-07-16T21:20:29 < kakimir> but little lynx cub would be cute pet and when it grows up it would be street rep to take it out in leash 2016-07-16T21:23:33 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-16T21:58:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-16T22:05:29 < Rob235> I used to have a sugar glider, that thing was cool 2016-07-16T22:07:57 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/dpTDYuS 2016-07-16T22:14:13 < kakimir> cute thing and wont grow into 30kg of feline beast 2016-07-16T22:15:45 < Rob235> a friend in college couldn't have pets in her new apartment so me and my roomates took him for 6-12 months but we would leave his cage open so he could run around and 'fly' at night but one morning we woke up to him covered in grease (must have went spelunking in the sink of dirty dishes) and we decided it was best to give him back :) 2016-07-16T22:16:03 < kakimir> maybe lynx could be trained to fetch some rabbit for a dinner 2016-07-16T22:17:12 < kakimir> and also use as protection 2016-07-16T22:51:26 < Steffanx> Better get yourself a dog kakimir 2016-07-16T23:00:02 -!- foubarre [~foubarre@tre13-2-78-245-232-211.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T23:01:26 < kakimir> I think so too 2016-07-16T23:02:03 < foubarre> Hi everyone. I'm looking into adding a companion mcu close to a stm32 in order to be able to flash it from anywhere. (chip would manage connection to the outside) I am looking for a documentation on the protocol used to flash the STM32, but nothing came out that i could implement myself. (saw DLLs, and thingies...) Do you by any chance hanve a handy link? 2016-07-16T23:02:32 < PaulFertser> foubarre: blackmagicprobe 2016-07-16T23:02:43 * foubarre googles 2016-07-16T23:04:12 < Steffanx> what's the advantage of that over for example the uart bootloader? 2016-07-16T23:04:33 < Steffanx> (bmp does give you debugging too, but you didnt ask for that) 2016-07-16T23:05:35 < foubarre> PaulFertser: oh. that's GPL. Cannot use it. :s Ought not to read it either, would go from a plain doc. 2016-07-16T23:06:25 < foubarre> Steffanx: good question. I want to limit dependencies and risks of failure. Not sure it will take a bunch of storage, but that could eventually help if i get more storage. 2016-07-16T23:08:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-16T23:08:53 < PaulFertser> foubarre: Steffanx is right, if you only need flashing, the UART bootloader would be the easiest to implement. 2016-07-16T23:09:00 < Steffanx> Dependencies.. risks of failures. Not sure if all, but at least many, stm32s come with this, pre-programmed in ROM, bootloader. 2016-07-16T23:09:11 < PaulFertser> foubarre: and I think you can read GPL code no matter what, why can't you? 2016-07-16T23:09:38 < Steffanx> foubarre: AN3155 and AN2606 2016-07-16T23:11:17 < foubarre> PaulFertser: well, theoratically, working on closed source after reading opensource restricted code has a disadvantage: you might do the same code, which in case of problem would turn into serious mess. I want to avoid this. just in case. 2016-07-16T23:11:36 < foubarre> Steffanx: ohh. Thanks reading this. 2016-07-16T23:12:10 < PaulFertser> foubarre: unless you copy it, you're unlikely to implement exactly the same code. And remember it's the source code that's copyrighted, not algorithms, ideas, etc. 2016-07-16T23:13:05 < foubarre> PaulFertser: yes, sure. I'm an overprecautious guy. I have to work on this.. one day.. 2016-07-16T23:13:42 < foubarre> i know its about as stupid as my fear of height and claustrophobia. Nothing really to fear, but i crap each time. 2016-07-16T23:13:57 < foubarre> (sigh) 2016-07-16T23:15:08 < foubarre> well, for a first try i might just go for the uart and see if there is a disadvantage (if any) going that way. 2016-07-16T23:15:23 < foubarre> Thanks a bunch for your advice. Very precious. 2016-07-16T23:15:33 < foubarre> oh and links too 2016-07-16T23:36:15 < Rob235> got the attitude gauge working, took longer than it should have: http://imgur.com/cVYj5Zo 2016-07-16T23:37:29 < Steffanx> You should select yellow for your fourth color of that logo-thing, not brown. 2016-07-16T23:38:25 < Rob235> its supposed to be orange, its not a logo, those represent the 4 leds on the discovery board. if the led is on then that color diamond will change to a brighter version of the color 2016-07-16T23:38:51 < Steffanx> (especially because you cannot easily make brown using your fancy led strips) 2016-07-16T23:38:52 < Rob235> but yea maybe I should make it less brown 2016-07-16T23:39:10 < Rob235> its the onboard leds not strips 2016-07-16T23:40:50 < Rob235> time for a break before I move onto the compass 2016-07-16T23:56:34 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fdkveymenqehokub] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-16T23:56:38 -!- foubarre [~foubarre@tre13-2-78-245-232-211.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] --- Day changed Sun Jul 17 2016 2016-07-17T00:00:17 < kakimir> sup R2COM 2016-07-17T00:00:57 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teezfseskkzywtbr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T00:06:08 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-07-17T00:10:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T00:14:10 < kakimir> http://www.biltema.fi/fi/Tyokalut/Kasityokalut/Hylsy--ja-Veto-tyokalu/Hylsyt-sovittimet-ja-jatkovarret/Monitoimihylsy-38-2000038038/ innovation 2016-07-17T00:14:52 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yabggzznpdcjkcdv] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-17T00:15:57 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-17T00:16:03 < Steffann_> My finnish is a bit rusty, what is it kakimir ? 2016-07-17T00:16:17 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwtnrypudrtnkmro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T00:17:33 < kakimir> some sort of multi wrench head 2016-07-17T00:17:57 < kakimir> you can see innovative spring loaded hexagon structure 2016-07-17T00:18:10 < kakimir> without saying it can't take heavy work 2016-07-17T00:18:18 < Steffann_> Ah. Spring loaded pins 2016-07-17T00:24:31 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-17T00:31:52 < kakimir> recommend fleabay kitchen type weight scale inexpensive? 2016-07-17T00:32:01 < kakimir> is there anything to win? 2016-07-17T00:50:25 < zyp> biltema literally means «car related» or something like that 2016-07-17T00:50:39 < zyp> but they have a bunch of other shit as well nowadays, cheap shit 2016-07-17T00:50:59 < zyp> along with car parts 2016-07-17T00:51:19 < zyp> I bought a ton of parts for my old car there 2016-07-17T00:52:20 < Laurenceb__> hawt http://www.tme.eu/gb/details/org4400-pm04/gsmgpsgprshspaedgelte-modules/origingps/org4400-pm04-tr/ 2016-07-17T00:55:24 < kakimir> bil = car in sverije 2016-07-17T01:00:52 < kakimir> safety razor R2COM ? 2016-07-17T01:00:55 < kakimir> or plastic crap? 2016-07-17T01:01:18 < kakimir> did you try different blades? 2016-07-17T01:01:35 < kakimir> I found ones that last like nothing 2016-07-17T01:02:01 < kakimir> I don't know 2016-07-17T01:02:29 < kakimir> I bought 100pack and did 4 shaves per one blade before noticing anything 2016-07-17T01:03:09 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-17T01:04:02 < kakimir> 3-4shaves.. why not if it works? 2016-07-17T01:04:27 < zyp> kakimir, yeah, and tema = topic 2016-07-17T01:05:26 < kakimir> I had problems there is like build up of this white shit on blade sides 2016-07-17T01:05:44 < karlp> I'm icelandic, we decided shaving was optional these days. 2016-07-17T01:05:59 < kakimir> we? decided? 2016-07-17T01:06:00 < karlp> I have an electric trimmer, gets down to ~2mm or something, more than good enough. 2016-07-17T01:06:08 < Steffanx> and electric shaver the hygienic is much better? 2016-07-17T01:06:12 < Steffanx> *with an 2016-07-17T01:06:15 < karlp> a clean shaven icelandic man is a very very rare person. 2016-07-17T01:06:20 < karlp> so yeah, "we" 2016-07-17T01:06:44 < zyp> I'm using a straight razor or whatever that's called 2016-07-17T01:07:04 < zyp> though, one that's using replaceable blades, so I don't need to sharpen it and shit 2016-07-17T01:07:19 < zyp> uses same kind of blades as safety razors, just broken in half 2016-07-17T01:07:48 < zyp> got a safety razor as well, but it only works well when it's short 2016-07-17T01:08:28 < BrainDamage> my beard is like steel wire, if i us an electric razor it chews my face 2016-07-17T01:08:37 < zyp> oh, yeah, I've considered trying one of those brauns 2016-07-17T01:09:01 < zyp> only problem is that it's kinda expensive, which would be just a waste if I end up not liking it 2016-07-17T01:09:10 < zyp> like the previous electric shavers I bought 2016-07-17T01:09:19 < BrainDamage> no, but i've used a model that used a similar concept 2016-07-17T01:10:03 < BrainDamage> sure, but, a sedan is a sedan regardless if it's made from fiat or bmw 2016-07-17T01:10:15 < zyp> R2COM, I guess, if the store will allow that after I've used it a couple of times 2016-07-17T01:11:16 < karlp> nah, everyone must have the same 2016-07-17T01:11:21 < kakimir> I do not shave with blade nowdays 2016-07-17T01:11:54 < kakimir> just outlining with trimmer 2016-07-17T01:12:03 < karlp> yep 2016-07-17T01:12:05 < karlp> that's the way 2016-07-17T01:12:11 < karlp> short stubbel forever 2016-07-17T01:12:30 < karlp> easy quick whip with the trimmer,no fuss, 2016-07-17T01:12:31 < Laurenceb__> https://www.badgerloop.com/documents/TubeSpecs.pdf 2016-07-17T01:14:22 < kakimir> ip67 is the shit anyways 2016-07-17T01:16:54 < zyp> yeah, the last electric shaver I bought were shower-rated 2016-07-17T01:17:05 < zyp> only problem is that it fucking didn't work 2016-07-17T01:17:36 < zyp> yeah, like I said I've considered that model or a similar one before 2016-07-17T01:19:05 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-17T01:19:19 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T01:31:36 < karlp> because win32 progs work on win64, but not viceversa, for the most part, 2016-07-17T01:31:42 < karlp> at least, that's why I'd package it like that. 2016-07-17T01:31:48 -!- sterna [~Adium@90-225-99-218-no236.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-17T01:32:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T01:34:19 < Laurenceb__> mr musk has been musking on the internets 2016-07-17T01:34:23 < Laurenceb__> https://www.badgerloop.com/documents/TubeSpecs.pdf 2016-07-17T01:35:52 < Laurenceb__> maybe we need a ##stm32 competition entry 2016-07-17T01:36:19 < BrainDamage> you know that even if you make a viable model 2016-07-17T01:36:30 < BrainDamage> you'd lack the few billions to invest to make it so 2016-07-17T01:36:33 < BrainDamage> so why bother? 2016-07-17T01:36:50 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-07-17T01:37:06 < Laurenceb__> I'm still going to hit that tube with a hammer 2016-07-17T01:37:15 < Laurenceb__> and laugh as it crumples on the passengers 2016-07-17T01:44:36 < Laurenceb__> lulaccurate 2016-07-17T01:45:13 < Laurenceb__> but back of envelope says a solid steel vacuum tbe 1.8m diameter with 17mm walls is quite unstable 2016-07-17T02:00:25 < Laurenceb__> I have old 5.5 here 2016-07-17T02:02:00 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/FkLOSvx compass finished 2016-07-17T02:02:14 < Rob235> colors might need to be changed though... 2016-07-17T02:02:26 < Rob235> the red arrow doesn't stand out enough 2016-07-17T02:02:55 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-17T02:08:52 < Rob235> bring back old memories? 2016-07-17T02:11:18 -!- mra90 [~Martin@brp167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-17T02:14:29 < Rob235> you are so angry. why so much hate man? I love you 2016-07-17T02:16:49 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28unqk44mbjif8z.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T02:18:51 < BrainDamage> average irc user: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA6g4WuzeIs 2016-07-17T02:19:36 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teezfseskkzywtbr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-17T02:21:01 < Thorn> wtf I got this board in like 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkx4qZCCHqI 2016-07-17T02:23:13 < Rob235> oh ok, that's good then, I was worried about you. 2016-07-17T02:39:19 < englishman> Laurenceb__: what is the benfit of linear steppers for a 3dicker 2016-07-17T02:39:21 < englishman> are there any? 2016-07-17T02:39:28 < englishman> looks like unnecessary complication 2016-07-17T02:39:49 < Laurenceb__> yeah I can't think of many 2016-07-17T02:40:03 < Laurenceb__> requires specialist track, can slip on power loss 2016-07-17T02:40:11 < Laurenceb__> doesnt seem wise 2016-07-17T02:41:29 < englishman> slip on power loss could be nice 2016-07-17T02:41:35 < englishman> but thats it 2016-07-17T02:42:07 < englishman> slightly less mass? 2016-07-17T02:42:24 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fdkveymenqehokub] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-17T02:42:29 < englishman> more mass in some cases 2016-07-17T02:43:17 < Laurenceb__> yeah, the moving part is heavy 2016-07-17T02:43:46 < Laurenceb__> its possible to get very smooth motion, particularly at high speeds, and there is no backlash or wander 2016-07-17T02:44:18 < Laurenceb__> I used mine for my arm prodding project to get smooth and reliable pressure profiles 2016-07-17T02:44:29 < englishman> why would there be no backlash 2016-07-17T02:45:20 < Laurenceb__> because there isnt a bunch of mechanical stuff connected to the motor 2016-07-17T02:45:59 < englishman> but your gantry can still wobble 2016-07-17T02:46:06 < englishman> less, i guess 2016-07-17T02:46:26 < englishman> and there can be backlash as it steps 2016-07-17T02:46:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T02:46:49 < englishman> its a magnetic field 2016-07-17T02:47:00 < englishman> not magic! 2016-07-17T02:47:07 < Laurenceb__> I know 2016-07-17T02:47:09 < englishman> (even tho ur a wizard) 2016-07-17T02:47:21 < Laurenceb__> trolltastic 2016-07-17T02:47:47 < Laurenceb__> well I got better results with linear stepper than with a screw 2016-07-17T02:48:18 < englishman> yes still cool 2016-07-17T02:50:12 < Laurenceb__> the "seek time" was about 2s with leadscrew and pid autotuning 2016-07-17T02:50:23 < Laurenceb__> 20ms with leakscrew and optimal control 2016-07-17T02:50:33 < Laurenceb__> then ~2ms with linear actuator and optimal control 2016-07-17T02:50:39 < Laurenceb__> so it was faster too 2016-07-17T02:51:08 < englishman> yeah i guess you are limited by leadscrew pitch 2016-07-17T02:51:10 < Laurenceb__> although the motor is heavy, it actually had much faster acceleration 2016-07-17T02:51:12 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-07-17T02:51:17 < englishman> and have to trade off speed vs precision 2016-07-17T02:51:38 < englishman> itd be the same with magnet width tho 2016-07-17T02:51:43 < englishman> just, better? 2016-07-17T02:51:45 < englishman> magnet spacing 2016-07-17T02:51:48 < Laurenceb__> and the optimal controller was more stable as there was less backlash 2016-07-17T02:52:02 < Laurenceb__> I dunno, I just got what I could find cheap on ebay 2016-07-17T02:52:08 < englishman> cool 2016-07-17T02:52:54 < Laurenceb__> I used an EKF to fit a nonlinear model of the arm properties (thixotropy etc) to the data, then LQR control with velocity ramp and stuff 2016-07-17T02:53:23 < Laurenceb__> controlled using chibios on an F4 2016-07-17T02:54:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-17T02:55:00 < Laurenceb__> the idea was to ramp applied pressure v rapidly then take NIR spectra of the tissue at different stages to separate interstitial fluid, venous blood etc 2016-07-17T02:55:10 < Laurenceb__> so the F4 did the NIR too 2016-07-17T03:01:46 < Laurenceb__> in hindsight I probably could have made it about good enough with a mechaduino style setup using a powerful stepper with a swinging arm to do the prodding 2016-07-17T03:03:17 < englishman> sounds like a fun project tho 2016-07-17T03:03:32 < englishman> sad you didnt dickstart it. 2016-07-17T03:04:50 < Laurenceb__> heh its kind of specialist 2016-07-17T03:14:06 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:2129:f97c:ddb6:ffd7] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T03:20:50 < Laurenceb__> 1:20am and there are still people playing Pokemon on the street 2016-07-17T03:20:59 < Laurenceb__> this is getting nuts 2016-07-17T03:21:49 < Laurenceb__> yesterday there were fat neckbeards and autists everywhere, it was like irc irl 2016-07-17T03:22:21 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-17T03:24:31 < englishman> dude 2016-07-17T03:24:40 < englishman> the crazies are outside now 2016-07-17T03:24:50 < englishman> imagine if there was a pokemon go for irc 2016-07-17T03:24:53 < englishman> itd be awful 2016-07-17T03:25:18 < englishman> for real ive seen the inside people outside, the whole week 2016-07-17T03:25:31 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-07-17T03:31:23 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:2129:f97c:ddb6:ffd7] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-07-17T03:32:13 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T03:32:29 < Laurenceb__> seriously, I walked through town yesterday and there were packs of them with their phones everywhere 2016-07-17T03:33:00 < Laurenceb__> nearly getting run over and stuff lol 2016-07-17T03:34:46 < Laurenceb__> http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/4270/1468416849/poketroll2.jpg 2016-07-17T03:42:00 < englishman> crt: look for the meandering typical of geocachers/ingress 2016-07-17T03:42:05 < englishman> but with their phone 2016-07-17T03:42:12 < englishman> then, swiping up repeatedly 2016-07-17T03:42:28 < englishman> you have found a pokemon 2016-07-17T03:42:34 < englishman> take a pic, gotta collect them all 2016-07-17T03:45:03 < englishman> many do 2016-07-17T03:49:22 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/Fabian__LH/status/754067363746676736 2016-07-17T03:49:44 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-17T03:50:39 < BrainDamage> http://puu.sh/q31R2/56fa283634.jpg 2016-07-17T03:59:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-17T04:12:28 < Laurenceb__> lul this is still on the go http://n-prize.com/forum/ 2016-07-17T04:17:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-17T04:19:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T04:20:05 < englishman> without o6, who will chat 2016-07-17T04:22:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T04:23:43 < englishman> The cost of the launch, but not ground facilities, must fall within a budget of £999.99. 2016-07-17T04:23:44 < englishman> cool 2016-07-17T04:24:27 < Laurenceb__> its kind of cool, but it was too hard, resulting in only nutcases attempting 2016-07-17T04:24:28 < englishman> how many cloned arduino boards and mpu6050 breakout boards were purchased as a result of this 2016-07-17T04:24:32 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-17T04:24:43 < Laurenceb__> I would have reduced the cost to 400 or so 2016-07-17T04:25:00 < Laurenceb__> and allowed decrease in sat mass 2016-07-17T04:25:31 < englishman> less than 10g? 2016-07-17T04:25:36 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-07-17T04:25:47 < englishman> wat 2016-07-17T04:25:47 < Laurenceb__> tracker on my rockoon is 450mg 2016-07-17T04:25:49 < englishman> . 2016-07-17T04:26:12 < Laurenceb__> if you tried even harder it should be poss to get even lighter 2016-07-17T04:26:13 < englishman> oh hmm 2016-07-17T04:26:24 < englishman> i see what you mean now 2016-07-17T04:26:41 < Laurenceb__> it just needs a CW beacon, thats all sputnik had 2016-07-17T04:26:44 < englishman> just as useless, but lighter 2016-07-17T04:26:48 < Laurenceb__> and you can determine the orbit 2016-07-17T04:26:50 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-07-17T04:27:04 < Laurenceb__> well its proof of concept that counts 2016-07-17T04:27:15 < Laurenceb__> as long as you can do the proof part, who cares 2016-07-17T04:27:31 < englishman> how many solar panels or lipos can you fit in 450mg tho 2016-07-17T04:27:37 < Laurenceb__> enough lol 2016-07-17T04:27:48 < englishman> 450mg 2016-07-17T04:27:50 < Laurenceb__> but n-prize is like google lunar prize thing 2016-07-17T04:27:51 < englishman> .5g 2016-07-17T04:27:55 < englishman> yeah who cares 2016-07-17T04:27:58 < Laurenceb__> so hard that only nutters try 2016-07-17T04:28:16 < Laurenceb__> so it has descended into idiocy 2016-07-17T04:28:29 < Laurenceb__> despite the fact that the initial idea wasnt automatically stupid 2016-07-17T04:28:31 < englishman> is it even possible to get to orbit velocity for <1100$ usd 2016-07-17T04:28:37 < Laurenceb__> of course 2016-07-17T04:28:47 < Laurenceb__> I had a design for about $500 2016-07-17T04:28:56 < englishman> and it worked? 2016-07-17T04:29:00 < Laurenceb__> of course not 2016-07-17T04:29:03 < Laurenceb__> or I'd be famous 2016-07-17T04:29:11 < Laurenceb__> my rockoon idea is a scale down 2016-07-17T04:29:12 < englishman> wheres the dickstarter 2016-07-17T04:29:31 < Laurenceb__> heh I don't need money I need time and advisers with skillz 2016-07-17T04:29:42 < englishman> money pays for those 2016-07-17T04:30:31 < Laurenceb__> rockoon is one of these 2016-07-17T04:30:32 < Laurenceb__> http://www.modelrockets.co.uk/shop/klima-model-rocket-motors/d3-six-pack-18mm-rocket-glidercar-motor-p-3310.html 2016-07-17T04:31:01 < Laurenceb__> just that is enough to get to 130km froma balloon, so thats officially in space and enough to pwn all amateur rocket projects 2016-07-17T04:31:13 < Laurenceb__> good enough for me 2016-07-17T04:32:28 < Laurenceb__> n-prize would be similar but using amateur rocketry reloads in off the shelf CF tubes with custom made bulkheads 2016-07-17T04:32:53 < Laurenceb__> the hard bit is the launch and spin stabilisation, once that works you can scale up only a little and get to orbital 2016-07-17T04:36:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-07-17T04:37:29 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T04:44:50 < Laurenceb__> top trolling http://8ch.net/n/res/461531.html 2016-07-17T04:46:15 < Laurenceb__> There won't be trees left so we will put several cows on top of each other and then hang you from the cow tower. 2016-07-17T04:46:21 < Laurenceb__> my sides 2016-07-17T04:46:47 < englishman> the verge will save us 2016-07-17T04:55:04 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-07-17T04:59:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2016-07-17T05:07:03 < dongs> one fucking time i turn off my pc overnight 2016-07-17T05:07:08 < dongs> next day spend 20 minutes trying to boot it 2016-07-17T05:07:20 < dongs> boots, usb doesnt work at all. no mouse 2016-07-17T05:07:24 < Thorn> >weendows 2016-07-17T05:07:26 < dongs> shutdown, it waits for like10 minutes for soemthing 2016-07-17T05:07:55 < Thorn> at least there wasn't a botched auto-update 2016-07-17T05:08:08 < dongs> i dont auto update 2016-07-17T05:10:26 < dongs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/16/debian_chairman_chair/ all important things lunix dweebs worry about 2016-07-17T05:10:33 < dongs> how about making your piece of shit OS usable??? 2016-07-17T05:39:30 < englishman> head chairweeb 2016-07-17T05:58:59 < dongs> https://i.redditmedia.com/cl6PZnivN57nH-tgvGNOnIwLDGqsyz_Ow6ocAUM5GVo.jpg?w=737&s=dc38b912e2e1cca6714141d831b28bba 2016-07-17T06:00:46 < dongs> http://abc7chicago.com/news/2-pokemon-go-players-plunge-off-cliff/1428279/ 2016-07-17T06:00:48 < dongs> yesssss 2016-07-17T06:06:22 < Rob235> wtf 2016-07-17T06:09:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-17T06:09:58 < englishman> nice 2016-07-17T06:22:21 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@167.88.26.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T06:31:07 < Thorn> http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/580052-gps-jamming-west-coast-usa.html 2016-07-17T06:35:19 < dongs> they're testing anti-pokemon-go jammers 2016-07-17T06:42:15 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-17T06:55:27 < englishman> pprune is a bigger conspiracy mill than most white power youtube channels 2016-07-17T06:59:21 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-17T07:07:26 < Thorn> how do you jam a dsss signal? 2016-07-17T07:09:37 < englishman> dsssddos 2016-07-17T07:24:13 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T07:26:34 < englishman> high paying career in software in japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brpc48HX_Nw 2016-07-17T07:26:45 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@167.88.26.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-17T07:54:58 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T07:58:31 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-17T07:58:35 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-17T08:05:34 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/82Xxh 2016-07-17T08:05:46 < Rob235> I should call it MSPaint Dash 2016-07-17T09:25:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-17T09:35:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.24] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T10:07:02 -!- kuldeep_ is now known as kuldeep 2016-07-17T10:12:24 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T10:13:56 < dongs> Rob235: you should call it "vappy" 2016-07-17T10:18:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-17T10:23:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T10:26:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.205] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T10:37:55 < dongs> It's World Emoji Day! Teen girls, code an emoji that's unique like you. 2016-07-17T10:47:49 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/PCB-Design-11019712/ 2016-07-17T10:47:49 < dongs> haha 2016-07-17T10:50:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-17T10:56:25 < kakimir> dongs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtdupS0gRt0 2016-07-17T10:59:02 < dongs> super old 2016-07-17T11:17:27 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-17T11:17:43 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T11:39:01 < BrainDamage> Thorn: intentionally or not? 2016-07-17T11:47:33 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-17T11:48:08 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T11:59:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T12:07:57 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-17T12:12:55 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.52.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T12:17:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-74ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T12:55:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T13:19:42 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28unqk44mbjif8z.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-17T13:34:05 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-17T13:34:05 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T13:35:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-74ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-17T13:35:08 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-74ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T13:41:48 < Steffanx> is everything ok crt? 2016-07-17T13:52:02 < kakimir> pay my shiet 2016-07-17T14:04:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-17T14:04:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-17T14:05:10 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-74ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-17T14:06:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T14:06:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T14:11:28 < ReadError> hmmm ohsix still not back? 2016-07-17T14:11:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.77] has quit [] 2016-07-17T14:12:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T14:18:09 < Steffanx> Do you really expect him to get back here? 2016-07-17T14:18:39 < kakimir> did dongs harash him? 2016-07-17T14:18:45 < ReadError> eh hes prolly back under a diff nick 2016-07-17T14:18:46 < kakimir> away* 2016-07-17T14:19:02 < ReadError> yes he harashed him so hard 2016-07-17T14:19:27 < kakimir> he destroyed him? 2016-07-17T14:19:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-17T14:20:04 < BrainDamage> disrupted 2016-07-17T14:26:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.141] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T14:40:18 < Steffanx> ReadError, probably not. He wouldn't be able to be quiet ;) 2016-07-17T14:47:52 < Steffanx> Oh no, the world is going to end.. steam is down. 2016-07-17T14:49:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.52.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-17T14:49:52 < Steffanx> A game that uses it, yes 2016-07-17T14:56:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T15:01:25 < karlp> so much faster to read scrollback with less o7. 2016-07-17T15:06:44 < Tectu> what is o7? 2016-07-17T15:08:13 < Steffanx> So now he's gone its time to get over the autism obsession. 2016-07-17T15:09:43 < karlp> back to pokemon then? 2016-07-17T15:10:15 < Steffanx> You had the app installed didn't you karlp? 2016-07-17T15:11:03 < karlp> it's officailly available in iceland now too. as of last night or soething 2016-07-17T15:11:08 < karlp> probably most of europe now I guess. 2016-07-17T15:13:15 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-17T15:13:42 < ReadError> why are all androids complete dogshit with battery 2016-07-17T15:14:00 < karlp> because app authors suck cock 2016-07-17T15:14:35 < ReadError> my ipad, i can leave the screen off for a month 2016-07-17T15:14:41 < ReadError> turns right on 2016-07-17T15:14:55 < ReadError> not a single android thing has done that 2016-07-17T15:16:37 < Tectu> as karlp said. mainly software issues. 2016-07-17T15:17:39 < karlp> too easy to do things that "work" but kill battery. 2016-07-17T15:17:59 < ReadError> why does iOS have it perfected though? 2016-07-17T15:18:07 < karlp> that's before you even get the board SDK doing bad stuff 2016-07-17T15:18:07 < Steffanx> it just kills those apps? 2016-07-17T15:18:20 < ReadError> nope 2016-07-17T15:18:29 < ReadError> gmail and irccloud still boop 2016-07-17T15:18:32 < karlp> i0s is hardly perfect, you can find heaps of people bitching about bad battery life on ios devices 2016-07-17T15:18:40 < ReadError> so its connected to the network etc 2016-07-17T15:18:53 < ReadError> yet still runs for a month 2016-07-17T15:18:54 < Steffanx> but those people probably play pokemon go all they long as well karlp. 2016-07-17T15:27:58 < ReadError> pokeurmoms 2016-07-17T15:28:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-17T15:33:13 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T15:38:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:a57c:65ef:fed4:808e] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T15:39:56 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-17T15:49:16 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T15:49:19 < Laurenceb__> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1468649769384-2.png 2016-07-17T15:51:26 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T15:53:10 < ReadError> http://www.banggood.com/Cycling-Night-Warning-Taillight-Bike-Rear-Light-Bicycle-Tail-Light-MTB-Bike-Rear-Light-Heart-Design-p-1058852.html 2016-07-17T15:53:42 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/urXX9AK.png 2016-07-17T15:55:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-17T16:01:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T16:04:27 < Laurenceb__> dunno he hasnt been seen for years 2016-07-17T16:04:32 < Laurenceb__> *x-files music* 2016-07-17T16:05:02 < Laurenceb__> http://new2.fjcdn.com/pictures/all+hail+based+hotwheels+http+vimeocom+91583460+a+short+video+in+the+life_431c5d_5301406.png 2016-07-17T16:08:05 < dongs> banggood staff 2016-07-17T16:12:11 < dongs> jadew: your chance http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/edu/5683810162.html 2016-07-17T16:15:08 < dongs> http://nagoya.craigslist.jp/tlg/5657284963.html to the point 2016-07-17T16:16:21 < jadew> except I can't speak Japanese 2016-07-17T16:18:23 < Laurenceb__> lul I had to tell some grrl at work to post something like that on craigslist once 2016-07-17T16:18:41 < Laurenceb__> so many autists 2016-07-17T16:20:35 < Laurenceb__> I had to friendzone her and demonstrate an alternative way to get laid 2016-07-17T16:23:25 < Laurenceb__> https://archive.is/8Qqbk 2016-07-17T16:23:56 < Laurenceb__> lul @ "make america PENetrate again" 2016-07-17T16:34:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-17T16:58:51 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-17T17:00:06 < ReadError> watch out perverts, amazon suggested a new purchase https://www.amazon.com/Fontic-Aluminum-Security-Flashlight-Pervert/dp/B01G710W12/r 2016-07-17T17:00:09 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Fontic-Aluminum-Security-Flashlight-Pervert/dp/B01G710W12/ 2016-07-17T17:01:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T17:11:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T17:11:38 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T17:53:39 < Laurenceb__> sexual harassment is serious business 2016-07-17T17:57:59 < Laurenceb__> no, too many neckbeards 2016-07-17T17:58:07 < Laurenceb__> I blame pokemon 2016-07-17T18:17:22 < Steffanx> Usinh samba? No errors? No nothing? 2016-07-17T18:17:58 < ReadError> sounds like a windows problem 2016-07-17T18:18:14 < ReadError> use the ip maybe 2016-07-17T18:18:56 < ReadError> do \\\ 2016-07-17T18:19:03 < ReadError> or just the ip 2016-07-17T18:23:45 < ReadError> did its ip change? 2016-07-17T18:33:30 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-17T18:51:57 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-17T18:56:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T19:04:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T19:06:41 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-17T19:26:09 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-17T19:26:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T19:28:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-17T19:30:13 < scummos> R2COM: yes you pretty much have to do that 2016-07-17T19:30:27 < scummos> well you can use one of the installer systems 2016-07-17T19:32:30 < scummos> but you still have to decide which DLLs you want to ship somewhat 2016-07-17T19:32:35 < Laurenceb__> I'm a Qt faggot 2016-07-17T19:32:40 < Laurenceb__> but not very pro lol 2016-07-17T19:32:41 < Thorn> I'm using innosetup for distribution, the script is ~60 lines long 2016-07-17T19:32:43 < Laurenceb__> R2COM 2016-07-17T19:33:04 < scummos> well or you can build statically but that a) requires building your own Qt and b) requires a commercial license for non-free applications 2016-07-17T19:33:09 < Laurenceb__> lul I dont know about DLL 2016-07-17T19:33:13 < Laurenceb__> no windozer here 2016-07-17T19:33:18 < Steffanx> You can build it all with static libraries of course, but then you don't comply with the lgpl license and stuff. 2016-07-17T19:33:33 < scummos> you do if you distribute the sources 2016-07-17T19:33:38 < Steffanx> ah of course. 2016-07-17T19:33:44 < scummos> but the default qt binary build doesn't include the static libs 2016-07-17T19:34:13 < scummos> I would just go and copy all the dlls into a zip file, it's done in 5 minutes 2016-07-17T19:34:27 < scummos> and if you need something better ... what Thorn said ;) 2016-07-17T19:34:50 < scummos> Laurenceb__: on linux the problem is much worse ;D 2016-07-17T19:35:15 < Tectu> scummos o/ 2016-07-17T19:35:20 < scummos> yo Tectu 2016-07-17T19:35:26 < Tectu> how is stuff these days? 2016-07-17T19:35:30 < scummos> we missed you in randa a few weeks ago! 2016-07-17T19:35:36 < Tectu> yes :'( 2016-07-17T19:35:39 < Tectu> I really planned to come 2016-07-17T19:35:44 < Tectu> How was it? 2016-07-17T19:35:57 < scummos> it was cool, quite productive ... maybe a bit too much wine in the last few days 2016-07-17T19:36:02 < Tectu> hah! :p 2016-07-17T19:36:17 < Tectu> I'm sorry that I wasn't there. I told mario that I'll bet here 2016-07-17T19:36:23 < Tectu> but shit hit the fan 2016-07-17T19:36:26 < scummos> I spent much of my time on binary distribution of applications on linux, so I'm an expert there now ;D 2016-07-17T19:36:28 < scummos> oh :( 2016-07-17T19:36:43 < scummos> well I certainly hope you're alright 2016-07-17T19:36:46 < Tectu> sounds like you needed the wine ;) 2016-07-17T19:36:50 < scummos> ...yes. 2016-07-17T19:36:54 < Tectu> yes yes, no worries 2016-07-17T19:37:06 < scummos> building qtwebkit 5.7 on centos 6 from 2009 2016-07-17T19:37:09 < scummos> not that fun :D 2016-07-17T19:37:12 < Tectu> wtf 2016-07-17T19:37:13 < Tectu> why. 2016-07-17T19:37:33 < Tectu> I was about to ask whether they gave you good wine or not, but I guess in that case they could have given you medical alcohol and you'd be thankful. 2016-07-17T19:37:52 < Tectu> why would you even compile QtWebKit? it's deprecated. 2016-07-17T19:38:03 < scummos> becaaaaaaaause you need to link everything against old glibc or it will not run 2016-07-17T19:38:14 < scummos> kdevelop uses qtwebkit to display its documentation 2016-07-17T19:38:20 < Tectu> hah! 2016-07-17T19:38:23 < scummos> well yes, it's deprecated but there's not really anything to replace it 2016-07-17T19:38:29 < scummos> so it doesn't really help to deprecate it 2016-07-17T19:38:32 < Tectu> you should have better spend that week porting to QtWebEngine 2016-07-17T19:38:41 < Tectu> what? QtWebEngine is the replacement. 2016-07-17T19:38:57 < scummos> with a completely different API 2016-07-17T19:39:16 < Tectu> well, replacement doesn't imply that it's (backwards) compatible ;) 2016-07-17T19:39:17 < scummos> and again 25x more complex than what our use case would actually need 2016-07-17T19:39:21 < scummos> and probably deprecated in three years once again 2016-07-17T19:39:36 < Tectu> funny coincidence: During that week where I didn't come to randa I actually tried to compile QtWebEngine one evening. 2016-07-17T19:39:41 < scummos> ;D 2016-07-17T19:39:48 < Tectu> SGaist told me just not to touch it. He was right. 2016-07-17T19:39:49 < scummos> well, I was exaggerating a bit, it wasn't actually that hard 2016-07-17T19:40:15 < scummos> don't think it took me more than 3 hours or so, of which only 15 minutes were actual work and the rest was waiting for things to compile 2016-07-17T19:40:21 < Tectu> I am pretty sure taht compiling QtWebKit against old glibc was easier than compiling the new QtWebEngine on a windows machine. 2016-07-17T19:40:38 < scummos> you can try with emerge 2016-07-17T19:40:42 < scummos> it's not that bad in building this stuff 2016-07-17T19:41:00 < Tectu> really? 2016-07-17T19:41:22 < scummos> yeah, supposedly you can just do "emerge kate" and you'll have a running kate on windows 2016-07-17T19:41:26 < Tectu> interestingly enough there is still no "support" to build QtWebEngine using MinGW 2016-07-17T19:41:34 < scummos> it's not _quite_ there yet but it's not that far either 2016-07-17T19:41:43 < Tectu> ah btw. I read the blogs anyway: Nice work on fixing 13 years old bugs in kate ;) 2016-07-17T19:41:54 < scummos> hey that bug was in xmlgui and david fixed it 2016-07-17T19:42:03 < scummos> it affected all applications, not just kate ;D 2016-07-17T19:42:11 < Tectu> I know :D 2016-07-17T19:42:12 < scummos> meeh mingw ... I'd just forget about that rather sooner than later and just use msvc 2016-07-17T19:42:22 < scummos> 2015 even counts as a c++ compiler more or less 2016-07-17T19:42:29 < Tectu> well, using mingw is a shit load easier than using msvc after all 2016-07-17T19:42:35 < scummos> is it? 2016-07-17T19:42:39 < Tectu> yes. 2016-07-17T19:42:47 < scummos> why? 2016-07-17T19:43:16 < Tectu> starts with the fact that the Qt installer is distributed with the MinGW binaries. msvc you have to download & install yourself and is about 8.5GB by now 2016-07-17T19:43:40 < Tectu> and many people need to setup the msvc kits manually because auto detection fails for some reason (wasn't the case for me though) 2016-07-17T19:44:07 < Tectu> and then again: if you want to make a cross-platform application using Qt you are happy to just use GCC on windows ;) 2016-07-17T19:44:35 < scummos> well, all the kde windows stuff is built with msvc these days 2016-07-17T19:44:56 < Tectu> ah really? that's neat. 2016-07-17T19:44:59 < scummos> ah well, qt binaries ... we compile qt ourselves 2016-07-17T19:45:31 < Tectu> I feel like the quality of Qt is going downhill these days 2016-07-17T19:45:44 < Tectu> either that or my skills to detect bugs and being affected by them has increased. 2016-07-17T19:45:46 < scummos> dunno, I think QtWidgets is as good as it always was 2016-07-17T19:45:59 < scummos> and QtCore as well 2016-07-17T19:46:18 < Tectu> QtWidget... did you ever work a bit more intensively with Q*TextEdit and QDockWidget? ;) 2016-07-17T19:46:19 < scummos> a web browser engine ... that's bound to fail as part of Qt in my eyes 2016-07-17T19:46:39 < scummos> we have lots of QDockWidgets, they seem ok to me 2016-07-17T19:46:51 < scummos> QTextEdit not so much, since we have our own editor which is almost always better and we load it anyways 2016-07-17T19:47:33 < Tectu> QDockWidget is full of bugs and is missing crucial features 2016-07-17T19:47:39 < Tectu> but anyway, are you there next year? 2016-07-17T19:47:44 < Tectu> because next year I will be there for sure. 2016-07-17T19:47:54 < scummos> in randa? no idea. I don't even know where I will live or what I will do next year 2016-07-17T19:48:01 < Tectu> lol. 2016-07-17T19:48:11 < scummos> or if I/we will be invited, after all randa is sort of an invite-only event with a topic and doesn't invite everyone each year 2016-07-17T19:48:29 < Tectu> no worries, I'll give you your invite 2016-07-17T19:48:35 < scummos> :D 2016-07-17T19:48:46 < Tectu> sadly I didn't help mario at all this year, but I haven't lost my influence I think :D 2016-07-17T19:48:52 < scummos> well, if christoph and dominik and kevin and milian are not there, there's not that much point for me to come 2016-07-17T19:48:57 < scummos> haha nice 2016-07-17T19:49:01 < Tectu> wine? 2016-07-17T19:49:04 < Tectu> fun? 2016-07-17T19:49:06 < scummos> weeeeeeeeeeell 2016-07-17T19:49:11 < scummos> that I have on my table here as well now! 2016-07-17T19:49:12 < scummos> the wine, I mean 2016-07-17T19:49:14 < Tectu> we can always get you some cocaine & hookers 2016-07-17T19:49:18 < scummos> in randa 2016-07-17T19:49:19 < scummos> sure. 2016-07-17T19:50:11 < Tectu> :D 2016-07-17T19:50:42 * scummos really needs to fix the remaining kdevelop release blockers so we can finally do 5.0 2016-07-17T19:50:55 < Tectu> I haven't checked out kdevelop for quite a while now 2016-07-17T19:51:17 < scummos> you can try my 5.0 binaries :D http://files.svenbrauch.de/kdevelop-linux/ 2016-07-17T19:51:39 < scummos> the c/cpp support now uses clang and thus is extremely correct and extremely good at detecting errors 2016-07-17T19:51:47 < Tectu> nice! 2016-07-17T19:52:01 < Tectu> has your Windows guy/team any experience on clang on windows? 2016-07-17T19:52:24 < scummos> our windows installer ships with libclang on windows 2016-07-17T19:52:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-17T19:52:28 < scummos> wrt the actual compiler, no idea 2016-07-17T19:52:52 < Tectu> I wish we could throw out mingw 2016-07-17T19:52:57 < Tectu> it's just a huge pain 2016-07-17T19:53:04 < scummos> for what purpose do you use mingw exactly? 2016-07-17T19:53:37 < Tectu> to compile windows binaries of Qt and µGFX applications 2016-07-17T19:53:49 < scummos> ah 2016-07-17T19:53:57 < scummos> I mean have a look at kde's emerge, really 2016-07-17T19:54:16 < scummos> if you're lucky, building qt with msvc is as simple as install msvc, run emerge qt 2016-07-17T19:54:41 < Tectu> I'm not sure if I want to start dicking around with that :D 2016-07-17T19:56:47 < Tectu> I bookmarked it though. 2016-07-17T19:56:49 < Tectu> thanks for the hint 2016-07-17T19:57:28 < scummos> understandable :D 2016-07-17T19:58:40 < Tectu> :D 2016-07-17T19:59:18 < Tectu> did you join the hiking trip? 2016-07-17T19:59:22 < scummos> sure 2016-07-17T19:59:30 < Laurenceb__> heh looks like a propane cannon http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=22a_1468742290 2016-07-17T19:59:45 < scummos> our small kate/kdev hiking trip was more intense though :D 2016-07-17T20:00:36 < Tectu> scummos, tell me more 2016-07-17T20:01:09 < scummos> dunno, we went much further than we actually wanted to and then suddenly the path ended and we climbed across some river everbody told us actually not to climb over and i don't know 2016-07-17T20:01:10 < scummos> but it was fun 2016-07-17T20:02:03 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-17T20:02:08 < Tectu> outlaw-KDE 2016-07-17T20:08:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T20:09:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T20:10:53 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T20:10:56 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T20:14:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-17T20:16:48 < jpa-> scummos: nice, kdevelop is my favourite IDE both at work and for hobbies 2016-07-17T20:18:02 < Thorn> better than qt creator? 2016-07-17T20:18:18 < jpa-> IMO yes, but could be just a matter of getting used to it 2016-07-17T20:20:40 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-17T20:27:05 < ReadError> The TPS61169 is a high-efficiency, high-output voltage boost converter in small package size. The device 2016-07-17T20:27:05 < ReadError> integrates 40-V/1.8-A switch FET and is designed for output voltage up to 39 V with a switch peak current limit of 2016-07-17T20:27:05 < ReadError> 1.2 A minimum. Its large driving capability can drive single or parallel LED strings for small to large size panel 2016-07-17T20:27:05 < ReadError> backlighting. 2016-07-17T20:27:22 < ReadError> ive never seen this, a current limit minimum ? 2016-07-17T20:30:56 < Thorn> section 7.6 fig 2 2016-07-17T20:31:10 < Thorn> 1.2A at 160C 2016-07-17T20:31:26 < Thorn> er 60+C 2016-07-17T20:33:19 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/29ctNB9.png 2016-07-17T20:33:21 < Laurenceb__> https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1468438201140.jpg 2016-07-17T20:33:49 < Laurenceb__> 40V das nice 2016-07-17T20:34:15 < ReadError> ohhh 2016-07-17T20:34:27 < ReadError> maybe thats just like "it will never not do 1.2A atleast" 2016-07-17T20:34:36 < ReadError> idk im stoned and this is worded strange 2016-07-17T20:35:08 < Thorn> fig 2 does not really agree with the table 2016-07-17T20:37:54 < scummos> ReadError: it's a minimum maximum 2016-07-17T20:38:07 < scummos> i.e. the spec guarantees that it will at least allow 1.2A peak 2016-07-17T20:38:20 < scummos> but it might be able to do more 2016-07-17T20:38:21 < ReadError> yea but that can be read as it can drive loads less than 1.2A 2016-07-17T20:38:26 < ReadError> cant* 2016-07-17T20:38:45 < scummos> well since it says switch _peak_ current that wouldn't make any sense 2016-07-17T20:43:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.38.98] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T20:48:37 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T20:48:37 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-17T20:48:37 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T21:00:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:a57c:65ef:fed4:808e] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-17T21:03:44 < Laurenceb__> flyback I found you a journal to publish some papers in 2016-07-17T21:03:47 < Laurenceb__> http://www.tandfonline.com/toc/wjhm20/current#.V4vIbNfR6f4 2016-07-17T21:06:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-17T21:44:38 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-17T21:45:30 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T21:54:32 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: bvsh, varesa, mitrax_, CheBuzz, ReadMobl, zyp, XTL, inca, kakimir 2016-07-17T22:00:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-17T22:13:25 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:26 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:27 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:32 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:34 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:36 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@ip-50-21-129-42.dsl.netrevolution.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:36 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@ip-50-21-129-42.dsl.netrevolution.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-17T22:13:36 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:13:42 -!- varesa [~varesa@ec2-52-49-18-111.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:14:03 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ickmxmzzlspmmjmv] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:14:28 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T22:19:14 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-17T22:20:30 < Laurenceb__> let the trolling commence 2016-07-17T22:22:30 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-17T22:22:32 < Rob235> booya 2016-07-17T22:24:40 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/4Iirj 2016-07-17T22:27:26 < Laurenceb__> or just grab taulabs 2016-07-17T22:27:38 < Laurenceb__> apart from the fact that their interface protocol is horrific 2016-07-17T22:27:47 < Laurenceb__> and mavlink is mega n00b 2016-07-17T22:28:32 < Laurenceb__> I sort of wrote a taulabs link implimentation 2016-07-17T22:28:46 < Laurenceb__> but never finished all the features as it was a kind of pointless project 2016-07-17T22:28:54 < Rob235> what is their software called 2016-07-17T22:30:04 < Rob235> not that I'm going to use it, mine is just about done 2016-07-17T22:30:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.38.98] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-17T22:30:47 < Laurenceb__> dunno 2016-07-17T22:31:25 < Rob235> and why would I grad theirs anyway? is that your way of saying mine is crap? :P 2016-07-17T22:31:28 < Rob235> grab* 2016-07-17T22:31:45 < Laurenceb__> http://api.ning.com/files/bquVoc42xDNxewbzid4iUiQgD3r5f307xKTAgAKSRvdjoZFrDeSDLytRQDo2TvEf7eAC9TTbIaMBLvFUD-jfqP1SIAC8q2bk/ScreenShot20131217at12.42.11PM.png 2016-07-17T22:32:02 < Laurenceb__> well you will prob have same problem as I did 2016-07-17T22:32:21 < Laurenceb__> taulabs have so much more resources they can outflank you on any ideas you have 2016-07-17T22:32:47 < Laurenceb__> better to start with their hardware and modify 2016-07-17T22:33:04 < Rob235> what problems did you have 2016-07-17T22:33:31 < Laurenceb__> no time to implement all the datalink features 2016-07-17T22:33:40 < Laurenceb__> it wasnt worth it 2016-07-17T22:34:04 < Rob235> this wasn't really meant as an in flight dashboard, it was more for testing the pid controller and stuff 2016-07-17T22:34:16 < Rob235> more of a debug dashboard 2016-07-17T22:34:26 < Rob235> so it will work for me 2016-07-17T22:34:51 < Laurenceb__> ah ok 2016-07-17T22:35:18 < Rob235> and I wanted to do everything on my own 2016-07-17T23:29:57 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-17T23:37:53 < Thorn> R2COM: user needs to run the installer 2016-07-17T23:39:25 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-17T23:39:57 < Thorn> same as firefox-setup.exe or any number of other software 2016-07-17T23:40:01 < Steffanx> that's bullshit R2COM. You dont break lgpl.. 2016-07-17T23:40:15 < Thorn> I think it can do .dmg for osx too 2016-07-17T23:40:27 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-17T23:40:42 < Thorn> or not 2016-07-17T23:40:57 < scummos> R2COM: I don't think so, the LPGL just requires that "people can swap out the libraries for newer versions" 2016-07-17T23:41:02 < Thorn> in that case just zip it with dependencies lol 2016-07-17T23:41:05 < scummos> R2COM: by distributing the sources, you fulfil that requirement 2016-07-17T23:41:20 < scummos> yes, just zip it then :D 2016-07-17T23:41:21 < Thorn> although you may need to include vcredist.exe etc. anyway 2016-07-17T23:42:00 < Thorn> my innosetupm installs vcredist and ftdi drivers automagically 2016-07-17T23:42:13 < scummos> R2COM: no, the requirement is just that they can change it in some waay. 2016-07-17T23:42:19 < scummos> it doesn't matter whether it's possible for your distributed binary 2016-07-17T23:42:45 < Thorn> R2COM: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/windows-deployment.html 2016-07-17T23:42:56 < Thorn> >you need to include the appropriate Visual C++ Redistributable Package (VCRedist) executable with your application and ensure that it is executed when the user installs your application. 2016-07-17T23:43:01 < Thorn> so, you HAVE TO 2016-07-17T23:43:18 < scummos> R2COM: ungh. as long as it enables the user to at least relink at least that part of the program against a newer Qt ... yes 2016-07-17T23:44:14 < Thorn> lol osx is even worse than that 2016-07-17T23:44:33 < Thorn> also I've never used this windeployqt.exe, I think it's new. you may want to look into it 2016-07-17T23:45:57 < scummos> yeah the LGPL is a bit strange 2016-07-17T23:46:12 < scummos> I'm not sure who gains anything by this "you must be able to swap out the lib by a newer version" requirement 2016-07-17T23:46:22 < scummos> it's not like anybody would ever do that 2016-07-17T23:48:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-17T23:51:49 < scummos> then again I think if you're a company selling a product based on Qt it's ok if you pay a few thousand to the Qt foundation so *shrug* --- Day changed Mon Jul 18 2016 2016-07-18T00:06:11 < Tectu> last time I checked Qt licenses were something between 350 USD and 550 USD per developer per month 2016-07-18T00:06:27 < Tectu> but not sure how much those numbers change depending on quantity and so on. 2016-07-18T00:11:58 < Laurenceb__> mine cost me zero 2016-07-18T00:12:04 < Laurenceb__> but I just dont care 2016-07-18T00:12:30 < Tectu> stop being a bad person, you bad person. 2016-07-18T00:12:40 < Laurenceb__> I'm a shitlord 2016-07-18T00:31:42 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2voq3ptf0aqg.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T00:34:59 < Steffanx> Yes. 2016-07-18T00:36:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-18T00:37:34 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKTUhLcDBkZ1A2cDg/view?usp=sharing HD 2016-07-18T00:39:11 < kakimir> I wonder if there is problem with dongle or then with usb implementation in my phone 2016-07-18T00:40:06 < kakimir> it just loses image information and makes those line artifacts more the video moves more it gets worse 2016-07-18T00:58:41 < zyp> depends what else your installer would do 2016-07-18T00:59:06 < zyp> like, initialize registry nodes, perhaps 2016-07-18T00:59:36 < zyp> but most of the time it should run fine 2016-07-18T00:59:49 < zyp> installers are largely a windows thing 2016-07-18T01:00:01 < zyp> on OS X, applications comes as ready to run app bundles 2016-07-18T01:01:05 < zyp> often on disk images that are mounted rather than unextracted, so you can run it directly from the file you download 2016-07-18T01:01:31 < zyp> I usually do that when I test out new software, and if I like it, I copy it over to the normal applications folder 2016-07-18T01:01:40 < zyp> which is how app bundles are installed 2016-07-18T01:41:30 < Thorn> R2COM: make sure to test on a virgin weendows in a VM 2016-07-18T01:41:54 < Thorn> you'll find very soon you need vcredist for example lol 2016-07-18T01:47:09 < Thorn> http://www.howtogeek.com/186132/how-to-create-portable-versions-of-applications-in-windows-8.1-using-cameyo/all/ 2016-07-18T01:47:21 < Thorn> http://carlcheo.com/portable-app-creators 2016-07-18T01:47:54 < Thorn> (although even portable apps may require installation before first use) 2016-07-18T01:48:12 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7772f5.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-07-18T02:17:38 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-18T02:17:46 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T02:41:15 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@2a00:5881:4008:508:a11a:1301:4:123] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-18T02:43:23 -!- autist [7bf38b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.124] has joined 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2016-07-18T05:49:22 < ReadError> finally decided to stop assburgerings/stoning and do some work 2016-07-18T05:49:39 < ReadError> ended up ripping up everything on this board and re-doing it 2016-07-18T05:52:28 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-18T06:32:43 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T07:03:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T07:13:09 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T07:13:12 < timemob> wtf 2016-07-18T07:13:19 < timemob> japs bought ARM 2016-07-18T07:14:49 < Thorn> you're not even trolling wtf 2016-07-18T07:14:56 < Thorn> http://www.wsj.com/articles/softbank-agrees-to-buy-arm-holdings-for-more-than-32-billion-1468808434 2016-07-18T07:16:23 < timemob> yes 2016-07-18T07:16:35 < timemob> brexited 2016-07-18T07:16:45 < timemob> now that gbp is in the trash 2016-07-18T07:16:56 < timemob> japs picked it up on the cheap 2016-07-18T07:17:18 < timemob> rip arm 2016-07-18T07:20:19 < Thorn> that article makes it look like ARM is nothing more than an "Apple supplier" 2016-07-18T07:21:09 < Thorn> spacex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIdCuSsJh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCCyVCvN2bo 2016-07-18T07:21:36 < ReadError> fuck this nexus 6p 2016-07-18T07:21:41 < ReadError> thing is a piece of trash 2016-07-18T07:21:57 < ReadError> they still cant figure out battery on android it seems 2016-07-18T07:23:37 < brianx> it would be sad to have a company in charge of arm who thinks of it as nothing but a supplier of mobile phone processors. 2016-07-18T07:23:58 < brianx> i imagine only 1 in 100 arm licenses goes to a phone. 2016-07-18T07:29:36 < Thorn> webcast started, 16 min to liftoff 2016-07-18T07:30:17 < brianx> thanks Thorn 2016-07-18T07:31:30 < timemob> which video is liftoff 2016-07-18T07:31:34 < timemob> I'm on phone 2016-07-18T07:32:30 < Thorn> one is with entertainment for non-geeks, the other without 2016-07-18T07:33:36 < brianx> which is which Thorn? 2016-07-18T07:33:53 < brianx> i'm on ThIdCuSsJh8 2016-07-18T07:34:22 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIdCuSsJh8 hosted, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCCyVCvN2bo technical 2016-07-18T07:35:31 < brianx> thanks. both up now. 2016-07-18T07:39:22 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-18T07:43:27 < dongs> dongs 2016-07-18T07:43:49 < dongs> looks like im on time 2016-07-18T07:43:55 < dongs> is that another CRS? 2016-07-18T07:43:56 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-18T07:44:10 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T07:45:47 < dongs> liftoff 2016-07-18T07:46:22 < emeb_mac> heh - got short wave receiver running on that lattice FPGA 2016-07-18T07:46:29 < dongs> orly 2016-07-18T07:46:42 < emeb_mac> ya - 0 to 20MHz coverage 2016-07-18T07:46:47 < emeb_mac> AM / SSB for now 2016-07-18T07:47:25 < emeb_mac> FPGA downconverts from 10-bit 40MSPS RF data to 16-bit I2S into the stm32f303 2016-07-18T07:47:40 < emeb_mac> and f303 processes to get audio 2016-07-18T07:47:56 < dongs> orly 2016-07-18T07:47:58 < dongs> cool. 2016-07-18T07:48:35 < dongs> so you're just capturing 0..20mhz RF from ADC 2016-07-18T07:48:40 < emeb_mac> yep 2016-07-18T07:48:57 < emeb_mac> antenna straight into 50 ohm input of my RXADC board 2016-07-18T07:48:58 < dongs> and then doing fft/whatever to get tuned region 2016-07-18T07:48:59 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-18T07:49:43 < emeb_mac> pickin up Radio New Zealand @ ~15MHz 2016-07-18T07:50:01 < Thorn> is there still something interesting in those bands? 2016-07-18T07:50:09 < emeb_mac> lots of stuff 2016-07-18T07:50:27 < emeb_mac> mostly 1st-world countries broadcasting BS to 3rd world folks 2016-07-18T07:50:38 < dongs> bible thumper broadcasts 2016-07-18T07:50:42 < emeb_mac> news, propaganda, religion. 2016-07-18T07:51:02 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-07-18T07:51:15 < Thorn> there is never any mention of 2nd world. must be very boring there 2016-07-18T07:51:23 < emeb_mac> flyover country 2016-07-18T07:51:31 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/vW359BT.jpg 2016-07-18T07:53:23 < Thorn> it's landing 2016-07-18T07:53:27 < dongs> yes 2016-07-18T07:53:53 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@p5B3E4A39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T07:53:58 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@p5B3E4A39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-18T07:53:58 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T07:54:02 < dongs> looks like it landed 2016-07-18T07:54:24 < brianx> heinlein would be proud. 2016-07-18T07:55:18 < emeb_mac> who this time? 2016-07-18T07:57:27 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-18T07:57:32 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-18T08:00:24 < dongs> lol @ Pokemon 2016-07-18T08:00:29 < dongs> fucking trolls 2016-07-18T08:00:44 < emeb_mac> that escalated quickly 2016-07-18T08:01:01 < emeb_mac> like it went from 0 to batshit in < 1 week 2016-07-18T08:03:00 < Thorn> they need to place a high level pokemon on the moon so there's a chance of a manned expedition in our lifetime 2016-07-18T08:03:26 < brianx> everyone is writing about pokemon. $wifey just used pokemon in an article she wrote about mentoring. 2016-07-18T08:07:40 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Design-Product-11026234/ 2016-07-18T08:07:42 < dongs> fucking jews 2016-07-18T08:09:22 < brianx> dongs: really? you're funny until you add antisemitism. 2016-07-18T08:10:21 < dongs> brianx: well, look at project requiremnets and at how much he wants to pay 2016-07-18T08:10:40 < brianx> fucking cheapskate works. 2016-07-18T08:12:13 < brianx> and Laurence b has been pasting tons of requests with the same budget. absurd but their choice. 2016-07-18T08:15:38 < brianx> i can only imagine the results they're going to get. 2016-07-18T08:15:59 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/sensor-PCB/ this guy wants IMU -> canbus for $30 2016-07-18T08:16:02 < dongs> and "cannot use pic or arduino" 2016-07-18T08:16:04 < dongs> right. 2016-07-18T08:16:34 < brianx> i can only imagine the results they're going to get. 2016-07-18T08:19:22 < dongs> dongtastic results 2016-07-18T08:19:41 < Bright> ARM Holdings, one of the UK's biggest technology companies, is set to announce it is being bought by Japan's Softbank for £24bn ($32bn). 2016-07-18T08:19:47 < dongs> old news 2016-07-18T08:20:18 < brianx> love that japan thinks they bough an iphone processor maker. 2016-07-18T08:20:34 < brianx> as if that were even 1% of their sales. 2016-07-18T08:20:57 < dongs> i wonder if they chose 32$ to be a power of 2. 2016-07-18T08:21:09 < dongs> just for the lulz. 2016-07-18T08:27:17 < dongs> BREAKING: Hostage situation at Burger King in Southwest Baltimore 2016-07-18T08:27:38 < dongs> http://breaking911.com/developing-hostage-situation-ongoing-at-baltimore-burger-king/ 2016-07-18T08:28:13 < emeb_mac> needs more "good guys with guns" 2016-07-18T08:35:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-21b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T09:00:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-21b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-18T09:01:33 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-18T09:02:31 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T09:04:51 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-18T09:07:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.189] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T09:11:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-18T09:20:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T09:24:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T09:29:40 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T09:45:24 < dongs> https://twitter.com/Silentmammal/status/754917930991624192 2016-07-18T09:45:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T10:05:46 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T10:15:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-18T10:17:23 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-18T10:17:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.118] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T10:18:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-18T10:29:54 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Design-Production-Ready-Led-Lighting/ 2016-07-18T10:29:58 < dongs> production ready 2016-07-18T10:30:03 < dongs> $250budget 2016-07-18T10:30:04 < dongs> k 2016-07-18T10:37:06 < Laurenceb__> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d99_1468813117 2016-07-18T10:51:33 < upgrdman> wtf. using some shit DMM, it's battery is low, and it gives wrong resistance measurements instead of shutting down when the voltage is too low. is this shit normal? 2016-07-18T10:51:44 < upgrdman> some Mastech trash 2016-07-18T10:52:06 < upgrdman> i do when im in the first world 2016-07-18T10:52:12 < upgrdman> but currently 3rd-world'd 2016-07-18T10:56:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-18T10:59:23 < carabia> i cannot emphasize how extremely rare it is for me to get any meaningful differences between my fluke 87v and a cheap uni-t ($20 or so). 2016-07-18T11:00:15 < carabia> you need to stop watching that guy on youtube who undoubtedly has undescended testicles 2016-07-18T11:00:34 < carabia> *mickey mouse voice* hey guys, i just wanted to show this $400000 scope i recently got 2016-07-18T11:00:56 < carabia> yeah dave it was. 2016-07-18T11:01:52 < carabia> the uni-t has really good battery life too. I got the fluke, basically just because. Because it's fluke right. But to justify buying one for "accurate measurements" is just, ridiculous 2016-07-18T11:02:58 < carabia> haven't had a cheap dmm do any of those either, yet 2016-07-18T11:03:16 < carabia> though, i don't buy cheap dmms with autorange. Autorange is nice to have, but not essential 2016-07-18T11:03:42 < carabia> And in dmms built to cost surely autorange can be very flakey, I give you that 2016-07-18T11:11:00 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-18T11:11:00 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T11:19:49 < Steffanx> Ebay... Usps.. For an unknown reason some package went from the us, to amsterdam and back to the US. Or is USPS really shipping stuff back and forth between dutchland and yankeeland?! :S 2016-07-18T11:21:16 < Steffanx> Hi mate. 2016-07-18T11:23:14 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T11:24:49 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T11:29:46 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/jfN1cC5.png LE SIGH 2016-07-18T11:30:05 < Steffanx> Better get soldering crt 2016-07-18T11:30:35 < Steffanx> Isnt that your daily business. 2016-07-18T11:38:32 < ReadError> make us some modern flashlight firmware 2016-07-18T11:39:13 < ReadError> its so easy i wonder why it hasnt been done? 2016-07-18T11:40:05 < ReadError> http://www.darksucks.com/icarus.html 2016-07-18T11:40:27 < ReadError> some flashlight head showed me that 2016-07-18T11:40:31 < ReadError> fuckin redic 2016-07-18T11:49:26 < emeryth> anybody used those new lazor range sensors from ST? 2016-07-18T11:57:57 < dongs> crt, ever make any custom-shaped fpc/ffc 2016-07-18T11:58:06 < dongs> to route around crap inside DJ gear 2016-07-18T11:58:14 < dongs> what's it look like 2016-07-18T11:58:24 < dongs> bending is kinda cunty 2016-07-18T11:59:17 < dongs> heh 2016-07-18T11:59:25 < dongs> do they send analog shit over those? 2016-07-18T11:59:26 < dongs> or digital 2016-07-18T11:59:32 < dongs> or shit like power etc 2016-07-18T12:03:48 < dongs> ya 'kay 2016-07-18T12:05:21 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-18T12:08:10 < Sync> how do people rip chunks out of ffc?! 2016-07-18T12:11:46 < Sync> heh 2016-07-18T12:14:12 < Sync> nice 2016-07-18T12:15:10 < Sync> I always put a surcharge in if somebody tried to repair shits before I get to it 2016-07-18T12:16:29 < Sync> yeah, the amount I put in varies 2016-07-18T12:17:24 < Steffanx> Whats a tftb? 2016-07-18T12:18:13 < Sync> > blackfin 2016-07-18T12:18:15 < Sync> bls 2016-07-18T12:18:58 < Sync> possible 2016-07-18T12:19:05 < Sync> I heard they are asscancer to code for tho 2016-07-18T12:28:56 < dongs> lol blackfin 2016-07-18T12:29:02 < dongs> japs must love it 2016-07-18T12:32:00 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2voq3ptf0aqg.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-18T13:13:11 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/bg3QRxW.jpg this is what keeps laurence/b/ busy 2016-07-18T13:30:29 < dongs> pooor CRT will need to change his ident now 2016-07-18T13:30:31 < dongs> to SoftBank4Lyfe 2016-07-18T13:30:42 < dongs> will softbank purcahse make keil cheaper?! 2016-07-18T13:38:37 < Steffanx> Only for jappies. 2016-07-18T13:41:44 < ReadError> what has japan taken over and made good/better? 2016-07-18T13:42:00 < emeryth> animation 2016-07-18T13:42:03 < emeryth> oh wait 2016-07-18T13:49:12 < dongs> lol 2016-07-18T13:49:16 < dongs> you fucken trolls 2016-07-18T13:59:49 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI0Sw4eS1TE 2016-07-18T14:31:20 < ReadError> god damnit 2016-07-18T14:31:22 < ReadError> another crash 2016-07-18T14:31:29 < ReadError> get your shit together altium 2016-07-18T14:31:35 < dongs> stop pirating it, faggot 2016-07-18T14:31:40 < dongs> my paid version never crashes 2016-07-18T14:31:45 < ReadError> its the same shit it always does 2016-07-18T14:31:49 < ReadError> move something funny 2016-07-18T14:31:52 < ReadError> DRC freaks out 2016-07-18T14:36:19 < ReadError> lets try 16.1.10 i guess 2016-07-18T14:41:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-07-18T14:41:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T14:50:00 < qyx> .. 2016-07-18T14:50:07 < qyx> er 2016-07-18T14:54:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-91.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T15:06:56 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T15:22:08 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-07-18T15:23:32 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T15:27:06 < dongs> favorite SC-70 NPN 2016-07-18T15:27:17 < dongs> er, nfet 2016-07-18T15:45:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-91.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-18T15:48:16 < dongs> found 2016-07-18T15:51:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-91.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T15:56:57 < karlp> brianx: you may be underestimating a little how many arm licensed cores are in each phone, possibly also how many phones are made / year. 2016-07-18T16:00:38 < brianx> karlp: most phones are not iphones. there are far more embedded devices than phones, we all own dozens of computers these days and more and more of them are arm based. 2016-07-18T16:02:24 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/X88gkpe.png 2016-07-18T16:02:24 < dongs> RIP 2016-07-18T16:09:10 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@46.194.161.104] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T16:09:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2a168-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-18T16:11:24 < Sync> gg 2016-07-18T16:11:54 < jadew> lol 2016-07-18T16:11:57 < jadew> how did that happen? 2016-07-18T16:12:26 < karlp> brianx: most phones not being iðphones doesn't in any way change my statement :) 2016-07-18T16:15:08 < brianx> karlp: i'm not sure how a single device with a fairly small market share (the iphone) could be a significant portion or arm's license count. surely not even 1%. 2016-07-18T16:15:12 < dongs> hmm I heard something about ARM making chips for iphones, and since we're a telco we can get them cehaper if we cut out the middleman and just buy ARM. 2016-07-18T16:16:59 < BrainDamage> the baseband processor for each radio is typically an arm core by itself, plus the main os phone, so even the dumbest shit phone has at least 3, if it's a medium end smartphone, they have more for sensor fusion, hell, i've seen models with a standalone cpu just to control the notification blinker to be able to put the main on standby 2016-07-18T16:17:24 < BrainDamage> a typical smartphone has 5-7 arm cores 2016-07-18T16:19:06 < Sync> wtf 2016-07-18T16:19:14 < Sync> can't they just put a pwm unit in the goddamn soc? 2016-07-18T16:19:21 < dongs> nope 2016-07-18T16:19:35 < BrainDamage> no because they want customizable shit 2016-07-18T16:19:38 < brianx> of course. and even a dumb phone is likely to have several. phones in general probably do make up a notable percentage of cores, most of them not iphones. 2016-07-18T16:20:12 < BrainDamage> totally need to be able to make a morse code sequence saying fuck you with the led 2016-07-18T16:20:54 < brianx> Sync: use a dma instead? 2016-07-18T16:22:04 < karlp> smartphone sales for 2016, erxpected 1.5billion 2016-07-18T16:23:51 < brianx> embedded processor units dwarf cell phone units. 2016-07-18T16:25:11 < karlp> I'm, justr saying it's way more than 1% 2016-07-18T16:25:37 < karlp> more likje 25 2016-07-18T16:27:08 < brianx> i can't see how one model from one company could be, yes the iphone is probably apple's biggest user of arm cores but even apple sells a bunch of other devices that aren't iphones. 2016-07-18T16:27:58 < brianx> is the iphone even 25% of all phones? 2016-07-18T16:29:41 < BrainDamage> http://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-v-android-market-share-2014-5?IR=T old to 2014 says 15% 2016-07-18T16:31:34 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-18T16:32:56 < dongs> http://www.statista.com/statistics/271496/global-market-share-held-by-smartphone-vendors-since-4th-quarter-2009/ 2016-07-18T16:32:59 < dongs> here you go 2016-07-18T16:33:00 < brianx> ny times showed 125 million units in the first 2 quarters of 2016. 2016-07-18T16:33:48 < ReadError> board is so much cleaner after re-routing it 2016-07-18T16:33:50 < dongs> 15.3% crapple 2016-07-18T16:33:56 < ReadError> shit got so fucked up over time 2016-07-18T16:43:16 < karlp> brianx: I tried to make it clear before, I wasn't talking about iphones, I was talking about phones. 2016-07-18T16:44:46 < brianx> karlp: my statement was specificly iphones as that's what the linked article was about. 2016-07-18T16:45:58 < brianx> phones probably do make up much more than 1% of arm cores. 2016-07-18T16:46:26 < ReadError> apple is the only important one 2016-07-18T16:46:32 < ReadError> androids cant even run all day without charging 2016-07-18T16:47:13 < brianx> stm32 is the important arm. screw android and ios. 2016-07-18T16:47:21 < emeryth> yes 2016-07-18T16:48:31 < brianx> we were bilked with this whole "open source" phone called android. 2016-07-18T16:53:01 < brianx> though saying an android can't run all day on a charge is not accurate. this 3 year old battery still often lasts from the time i get up to the time i go to bed. as with any battery device, use makes all the difference. what you run and how often you run it. 2016-07-18T16:53:18 < dongs> there are no useful apps on itrash 2016-07-18T16:53:19 < dongs> so yeah 2016-07-18T16:53:23 < dongs> its optimized to idle 2016-07-18T16:53:24 < dongs> and do nothing 2016-07-18T16:53:48 < brianx> as would be any battery device. 2016-07-18T16:54:05 < ReadError> dongs what useful apps are there on android 2016-07-18T16:54:14 < ReadError> even on a new device the store is full of garbage 2016-07-18T16:54:24 < brianx> irc is useful on android. 2016-07-18T16:54:26 < ReadError> every god damn app is full of adware 2016-07-18T16:54:32 < ReadError> irccloud, sure 2016-07-18T16:54:56 < brianx> i don't use irccloud. 2016-07-18T16:55:11 < ReadError> normal irc clients rape the battery extra hard 2016-07-18T16:55:36 < ReadError> i can leave my ipad unplugged for a month with irccloud running and get notifications instantly still 2016-07-18T16:55:44 < ReadError> android filth cant even come close 2016-07-18T16:56:55 < brianx> i can run my irc bouncer for years and not pay a penny for using it. 2016-07-18T16:58:15 < brianx> and on top of that, not a single ad. 2016-07-18T16:58:44 < emeryth> not everyone can be a pro 2016-07-18T17:03:58 < brianx> not everyone wants to be an amature. 2016-07-18T17:04:45 < ReadError> im capable of running a bnc/znc too but that doesnt mean its a good solution for mobile use 2016-07-18T17:10:41 < brianx> my setup works well for mobile use. 2016-07-18T17:10:46 < aandrew> it actually isn't bad at all for mobile use 2016-07-18T17:10:49 < aandrew> I use it all the time in fact 2016-07-18T17:10:50 < emeryth> weechat android is good, works as a relay for an existing weechat session 2016-07-18T17:12:13 < aandrew> colloquy here for ios. it's not *great* but it's not bad and does do push 2016-07-18T17:14:50 < brianx> i could see push for notification and plain irc for foreground use. not my setup but may be quite usable. 2016-07-18T17:15:21 < dongs> wot 2016-07-18T17:17:31 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Multimeter-Amperemeter-Voltmeter-Compatible/dp/B00U3N7RY6/ neat 2016-07-18T17:17:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T17:19:01 < emeryth> way overpriced 2016-07-18T17:19:31 < ReadError> the OLED ones seem to be more 2016-07-18T17:19:38 < dongs> thats a chinese ripoff of quality american PLX LEEGION METER 2016-07-18T17:19:44 < dongs> a KICKSTARTER-CREATION 2016-07-18T17:19:59 < dongs> delete that url and immediately purchase LEGION METER FROM PLX WEBSHOP 2016-07-18T17:20:12 < dongs> http://www.plxdevices.com/Legion-USB-Power-Meter-Charge-Accelerator-p/897346002764.htm 2016-07-18T17:28:19 < aandrew> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-sales-QC2-0-USB-Power-Detector-Voltage-Current-Meter-5V-9V-12V-30V-Charger-Doctor/32629943152.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.385.hDczP1&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_3_10057_10056_10055_10037_10049_10033_10059_10032_10058_10017_405_404_407_10040,searchweb201603_4&btsid=a43d0a85-857d-4569-ab9c-752830de1354 2016-07-18T17:31:05 < dongs> aandrew: nice url, asshole 2016-07-18T17:31:49 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/chinese-cartoons/32629943152.html 2016-07-18T17:32:07 < aandrew> you say potato, I say potato 2016-07-18T17:33:10 < aandrew> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-Doctor-USB-Voltmeter-Ammeter-Power-Meter-Capacity-Tester-Charger-5in1-Multifunction-USB-Tester-Meter/32330332634.html 2016-07-18T17:33:18 < aandrew> happy? that's the drok one on aliexpress 2016-07-18T17:34:57 < Steffanx> Grumpy dongs needs his nap. 2016-07-18T17:35:32 < dongs> drok one sounds dumb 2016-07-18T17:35:35 < dongs> i'd rather take the other one 2016-07-18T17:35:40 < dongs> 0-30V is nice 2016-07-18T17:37:54 < Laurenceb__> pedometer 2016-07-18T17:38:24 < aandrew> is that for keeping tabs on how many children you're molesting? 2016-07-18T17:40:21 < dongs> chris-hansen-meter 2016-07-18T17:45:20 < Laurenceb__> supposedly most murican "reality" tv is fake 2016-07-18T17:45:30 < Laurenceb__> wonder if they have fake pedos for the lulz 2016-07-18T17:49:26 -!- Rob235 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but that was a much smaller deal 2016-07-18T18:13:19 < jadew> hmm 2016-07-18T18:13:28 < jadew> I must be thinking of something else 2016-07-18T18:13:32 < jadew> not microchip 2016-07-18T18:13:39 < jadew> there was this company "Orange" that bought something? 2016-07-18T18:14:04 < dongs> orange is mobile proider in eruope 2016-07-18T18:14:15 < Ultrasauce> they also make sweet amps 2016-07-18T18:14:24 < jadew> dongs, yeah, but not them 2016-07-18T18:14:29 < jadew> someone else 2016-07-18T18:14:39 < jadew> problem is I don't even remember what they bought 2016-07-18T18:23:04 < Laurenceb__> climate change module https://www.seeedstudio.com/Tessel-Climate-Module-p-2225.html 2016-07-18T18:29:03 < Laurenceb__> Turkey yes https://i.sli.mg/QQcqSU.png 2016-07-18T18:29:56 < dongs> zyp: http://www.dianyuan.com/upload/community/2016/03/10/1457578662-31498.pdf some more QC fuckery 2016-07-18T18:30:45 < dongs> cute that QC3 chooses voltage by toggling dp/dm 2016-07-18T18:30:52 < BrainDamage> laurenceb-grade link: https://i.imgur.com/Nc5JlvX.jpg 2016-07-18T18:31:08 < dongs> rolf 2016-07-18T18:31:10 < zyp> dongs, probably too many discrete states to have a voltage for each 2016-07-18T18:31:55 < dongs> right 2016-07-18T18:34:23 < aandrew> lol "climate module" it's a fucking I2C temp/humi sensor 2016-07-18T18:34:27 < aandrew> I've used dozens of them 2016-07-18T18:34:44 < zyp> blame aandrew for climate change! 2016-07-18T18:35:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-18T18:37:09 < aandrew> BrainDamage: lol 2016-07-18T18:39:30 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-18T18:51:56 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-18T18:51:59 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q crap.!*@*] by ChanServ 2016-07-18T18:54:02 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q crap.!*@*] by ChanServ 2016-07-18T19:14:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 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Not succeeding yet. 2016-07-18T19:24:31 < Tectu> probably one should 30 days trial first. 2016-07-18T19:24:41 < Steffanx> Better ask them then 2016-07-18T19:25:45 < Tectu> no way, ##stm32 hasn't been anything but a source of inspiration & answers for me. 2016-07-18T19:26:28 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-18T19:26:41 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T19:28:45 < Tectu> And crappy links from laurenceb__ 2016-07-18T19:31:53 < englishman> Tectu: is this your landlord https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/mietrecht-beratung/ratgeber-mietrecht/top-themen/nachbarn-hausordnung.html 2016-07-18T19:32:58 < Tectu> what are you trying to ask me, englishman? 2016-07-18T19:33:09 < englishman> are you allowed to shower after 10pm 2016-07-18T19:33:46 < Tectu> it's discouraged 2016-07-18T19:33:50 < emeb> Tectu: I got a personal lic of Crossworks years ago. 2016-07-18T19:34:08 < Tectu> you won't get sued for it or something, englishman, but people tend to avoid it. 2016-07-18T19:34:23 < emeb> Used it for a while but abandoned it because the "personal" license wouldn't allow use on paid work. 2016-07-18T19:34:24 < Tectu> emeb, any short personal review on that? 2016-07-18T19:34:39 < emeb> The tool seemed nice at the time 2016-07-18T19:35:07 < Tectu> emeb, can you compare it to keil? Cuz it seems to be Keil with a more complicated package manager and nicer GUI 2016-07-18T19:35:32 < emeb> I've used Keil for a small project. Seemed about the same. 2016-07-18T19:35:38 < emeb> Nice IDE with easy debugging. 2016-07-18T19:35:42 < Tectu> ok 2016-07-18T19:35:51 < aandrew> hm that's nice, free upgrade to j-link for any on-board st-link 2016-07-18T19:35:54 < Tectu> so worth giving it a try and adding uGFX ready-to-run projects then 2016-07-18T19:36:02 < Tectu> aandrew, that was like months ago, no? 2016-07-18T19:36:08 < Tectu> englishman, why would you ask/bother? 2016-07-18T19:36:13 < emeb> Tectu: for you it'd probably be handy to have 2016-07-18T19:36:16 < englishman> seems so strange, swisslike 2016-07-18T19:36:20 < Tectu> emeb, thanks! :) 2016-07-18T19:36:20 < emeb> when you support customers who use it. 2016-07-18T19:36:31 < Tectu> emeb, well I got two FAE licenses 2016-07-18T19:36:55 < Tectu> at first glance I was worried that it's eclipse crap 2016-07-18T19:37:03 < emeb> Definitely not eclipse 2016-07-18T19:37:10 < emeb> seems to have been around a lot longer 2016-07-18T19:37:31 < emeb> The Rowley folks do seem to have their own way of doing things. 2016-07-18T19:37:43 < Tectu> good or bad? 2016-07-18T19:37:50 < emeb> just different 2016-07-18T19:38:09 < emeb> but IIRC it's just sitting on top of GCC in the end 2016-07-18T19:38:09 < Tectu> like dongs different or like Laurenceb different? 2016-07-18T19:38:15 < emeb> heh 2016-07-18T19:38:15 < Tectu> yes, it uses GCC 2016-07-18T19:40:00 < ReadError> Tectu crossworks was miserable 2016-07-18T19:40:04 < Tectu> I'll give it a try on Wednesday and let you know. 2016-07-18T19:40:08 < ReadError> it was too much gui and PITA to setup 2016-07-18T19:40:08 < Tectu> ReadError, can you elaborate? 2016-07-18T19:40:40 < ReadError> just try to set something up 2016-07-18T19:40:44 < ReadError> load some project you have 2016-07-18T19:41:11 < Tectu> ReadError, "try to set something up" is what made me joining this channel and asking if anybody might be able to help :D 2016-07-18T19:41:21 < ReadError> yea exactly 2016-07-18T19:41:23 < ReadError> its a pile 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2016-07-18T19:49:41 < englishman> check out my new lawnmower https://i.sli.mg/htKdYW.jpg 2016-07-18T19:50:40 < Tectu> I'm actually able to use that thing (and maintain) 2016-07-18T19:50:53 < Tectu> and yes it's horrible. 2016-07-18T19:50:59 < englishman> yes i cleared a bunch of brush with it on saturday 2016-07-18T19:51:06 < englishman> lost like 30lbs (of sweat) 2016-07-18T19:51:26 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-18T19:51:34 < Tectu> why would you? 2016-07-18T19:52:04 < englishman> the weed eater was too small 2016-07-18T19:52:17 < englishman> could have gone and rented one but whatever 2016-07-18T19:52:21 < englishman> did that instead of running 2016-07-18T19:54:01 < Tectu> why did you have such a thing. 2016-07-18T19:54:55 < englishman> neighbour farmer had it in a shed 2016-07-18T19:55:09 < Sync> I also have a few scythes 2016-07-18T19:55:13 < Sync> they are actually fun to use 2016-07-18T19:55:18 < englishman> whetstone was right next to it 2016-07-18T19:55:38 < englishman> 5min later cut my hand (while sharpening) and got to mowing 2016-07-18T19:55:47 < englishman> it is pretty neat yes 2016-07-18T19:57:10 < Tectu> I could life w/o the experience. 2016-07-18T19:57:19 < Sync> not if you do it all day erry day, but for a day or two it is nice 2016-07-18T19:59:32 < Tectu> time to CubeMX. 2016-07-18T20:00:11 -!- kuldeep_ is now known as kuldeep 2016-07-18T20:01:48 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-18T20:05:06 -!- bradfirj [~bradfirj@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::c9:c001] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-18T20:05:06 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-18T20:05:44 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-18T20:05:44 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-18T20:05:44 -!- esden [esden@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-18T20:05:44 -!- forrestv 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2016-07-18T22:05:43 < Sync> my parcel took like 3 days to go from fukuoka to osaka 2016-07-18T22:14:39 < Steffanx> USPS is shipping my parcel between the US and the netherladns and back. 2016-07-18T22:14:52 < Steffanx> i guess they all have a hard time doing stuff right 2016-07-18T22:15:31 < Sync> o0 2016-07-18T22:16:03 < Sync> I had stuff bounce between cologne and paris once 2016-07-18T22:17:02 < Steffanx> unless usps likes to ship from Minneapolis, to amsterdam, to chicago 2016-07-18T22:17:54 < Sync> lel 2016-07-18T22:27:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T22:30:09 -!- rager is now known as bourbon 2016-07-18T22:37:25 < Laurenceb__> ooh did someone block me 2016-07-18T22:46:41 < Steffanx> i wouldnt dare 2016-07-18T23:02:15 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D_fi_ck9Vo :D 2016-07-18T23:03:19 < Tectu> you Fleck o/ 2016-07-18T23:03:23 < Fleck> hi 2016-07-18T23:09:42 < Steffanx> lol they did it again 2016-07-18T23:12:50 < Tectu> oh, is this "flash makes it reset" again? 2016-07-18T23:15:00 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-18T23:15:15 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T23:20:12 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-18T23:20:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T23:29:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.38.98] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-18T23:31:34 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T23:43:15 < englishman> yeah why is this a 12 minute video, couldn't this be 140 characters or less 2016-07-18T23:43:44 < Rob235> dongs: damnit why didn't you talk me out of using python... 2016-07-18T23:44:09 < Rob235> I only get like 1 fps so I'm rewriting it in processing and it's so much better 2016-07-18T23:44:31 < ReadError> did dis nigga just say processsing 2016-07-18T23:44:37 < englishman> processing.... 2016-07-18T23:44:50 < Rob235> troll all you want but it's working great 2016-07-18T23:45:03 < Rob235> you shoulda trolled harder when I was using python 2016-07-18T23:45:11 < ReadError> Rob235 why not use existing GCS? 2016-07-18T23:45:16 < ReadError> just integrate telem protocol 2016-07-18T23:46:04 < Rob235> what is your problem with processing? 2016-07-18T23:46:50 < ReadError> doesnt handle serial shit very well for starters 2016-07-18T23:46:56 < ReadError> atleast the ones ive used 2016-07-18T23:46:57 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMwhGE0vd-w ;p 2016-07-18T23:47:10 < ReadError> disconnect/reconnecting or pulling it while connected 2016-07-18T23:47:12 < Rob235> Havent had a single issue with serial 2016-07-18T23:47:39 < qyx> don't you know of any ready-made firmware for a stm32 which would allow you to connect it through USB and control its peripherals using a PC software? 2016-07-18T23:47:40 < ReadError> 'java' 2016-07-18T23:48:01 < qyx> ie. I need a simple ADC->USB and ADC->GPIO bridge 2016-07-18T23:48:03 < Rob235> I'm fine with it 2016-07-18T23:48:13 < qyx> erm, ADC->USB and GPIO->USB 2016-07-18T23:48:20 < Rob235> I had serial problems with python but not processing so far 2016-07-18T23:48:44 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-18T23:48:52 < Rob235> and its very smooth and quick 2016-07-18T23:50:36 < Steffanx> Isnt your issue you used mathplotlib .. Not python 2016-07-18T23:50:55 < Rob235> for refresh rate yes, but the serial sucked too which was python 2016-07-18T23:51:07 < Rob235> or at least the implementation I used 2016-07-18T23:51:19 < Ultrasauce> >2016 >comms and rendering in the same thread 2016-07-18T23:52:25 < Rob235> again its just a debug dashboard, doesn't need to be perfect and processing will work 2016-07-18T23:53:38 < kakimir> musics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EPGhjxm0G0 2016-07-18T23:54:52 < karlp> Rob235: I think the problem was using matpltolib to do a ui :) 2016-07-18T23:54:58 < Rob235> yea definitely 2016-07-18T23:55:03 < Rob235> lesson learned 2016-07-18T23:57:01 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-18T23:57:02 < karlp> matplotlib is for plotting, 2016-07-18T23:57:36 < Rob235> I wish I remember who suggested it in the first place 2016-07-18T23:58:04 < karlp> you were asking for plotting first 2016-07-18T23:58:08 < karlp> so you got plotting advice 2016-07-18T23:58:14 < zyp> matplotlib is nice for plotting 2016-07-18T23:58:15 < karlp> then you went off and made a ui with it. 2016-07-18T23:58:22 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-18T23:58:23 < karlp> matplotlib is a great choice for plotting 2016-07-18T23:58:43 < Rob235> I know, I'm smarter now 2016-07-18T23:58:45 < ReadError> probably Laurenceb 2016-07-18T23:59:16 < Ultrasauce> it was emeb 2016-07-18T23:59:33 < Ultrasauce> except he didn't suggest it --- Day changed Tue Jul 19 2016 2016-07-19T00:00:08 < emeb> make a UI out of matplotlib? 2016-07-19T00:01:30 < karlp> no-one suggested making a ui out of matplotlib, rob did that himself :) 2016-07-19T00:01:59 < Rob235> I'm special like that 2016-07-19T00:02:38 < Ultrasauce> yeah the context was "better than matlab" 2016-07-19T00:04:25 < qyx> pyqt! 2016-07-19T00:05:13 < Rob235> and I can just steal the teapot demo and add it in a square on my layout now :) 2016-07-19T00:07:48 < Ultrasauce> all the best code starts with a copypaste 2016-07-19T00:08:03 < Rob235> its for testing, it doesn't matter 2016-07-19T00:08:14 < Rob235> I'm just copying the 3d object 2016-07-19T00:09:22 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-19T00:10:56 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T00:12:33 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-55b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T00:12:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-55b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-19T00:14:21 < Rob235> already working 2016-07-19T00:15:54 < karlp> it's for testing, it doesnt' matter, except for, "it ended up being too slow, so I had to redo it in processing..." 2016-07-19T00:16:29 < Rob235> alright... you know what I mean, is it really necessary to be a dick about it? 2016-07-19T00:16:56 < Rob235> I'm learning as I go, this stuff is new to me 2016-07-19T00:17:28 < karlp> we're just having fun :) 2016-07-19T00:17:38 < karlp> I was impressed at how far you got in matplot lib in the time you had 2016-07-19T00:17:50 < karlp> you're far more prepared to hack and bang out code than I am :) 2016-07-19T00:18:05 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-19T00:38:26 < ReadError> lol god damnit 2016-07-19T00:38:49 < ReadError> altium routing in hug/push is killing the nvidia driver 2016-07-19T00:38:50 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-55b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-19T00:39:15 < ReadError> reproducible too 2016-07-19T00:54:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-19T01:54:43 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-07-19T01:58:01 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v0swyrkg178ro.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T02:01:05 < Laurenceb__> probably Laurenceb 2016-07-19T02:01:12 < Laurenceb__> lolno I use matlab and octave 2016-07-19T02:01:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T02:02:02 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/XiQPk 2016-07-19T02:02:35 < Rob235> took forever to realize I was creating my packet wrong (offset was off by 1) but getting there 2016-07-19T02:03:07 < ReadError> this thing will never fly at this rate lol 2016-07-19T02:03:33 < Rob235> :) I'm just going to keep adding stuff 2016-07-19T02:03:41 < Rob235> and never fly it 2016-07-19T02:07:19 < Laurenceb__> see this is what happened to me 2016-07-19T02:07:38 < Laurenceb__> counter-intuitivly the datalink is a massive pita 2016-07-19T02:29:50 < Rob235> I should get gps working before it's maiden flight 2016-07-19T02:31:37 < Rob235> I was joking about the gps, definitely getting it flying first. not sure where I'm gonna go yet 2016-07-19T02:33:22 < ds2> what kind of GPS are you using? 2016-07-19T02:33:46 < Rob235> neo m8n 2016-07-19T02:33:58 < ds2> UART interface? 2016-07-19T02:34:09 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-19T02:34:22 < ds2> isn't "working" mainly a NMEA parser? 2016-07-19T02:34:31 < ds2> or u using the binary modes? 2016-07-19T02:35:32 < Rob235> I have it reading the packets and parsing but storing locations isn't done yet and adjusting attitude for desired direction/speed isn't either 2016-07-19T02:38:59 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T02:39:39 < Rob235> the bno055 is a pain in the ass to calibrate, well the accelerometer only, I hold it in every orientation and it still isn't fully calibrated 2016-07-19T02:39:53 < Rob235> I need to start saving the offsets 2016-07-19T02:47:26 < englishman> crt = cat 2016-07-19T02:49:25 < englishman> no but i also have a silly kitty https://i.sli.mg/C277eb.jpg 2016-07-19T02:51:39 < englishman> cat has friend 2016-07-19T02:53:03 < Thorn> progress docking in progress http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv 2016-07-19T02:55:01 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AtP7au_Q9w 2016-07-19T02:55:38 < Thorn> that fox died 2016-07-19T02:58:04 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T03:00:36 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-19T03:04:25 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-19T03:07:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T03:10:31 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-179-251-219.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T03:10:52 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-19T03:12:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-19T03:12:17 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T03:12:33 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T03:22:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T03:22:17 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T03:32:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T04:04:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-19T04:10:51 < dongs> busy innovating 2016-07-19T04:11:08 < dongs> yes 2016-07-19T04:11:43 < dongs> both 2016-07-19T04:11:47 < dongs> either keil usb or st usb 2016-07-19T04:13:51 < dongs> st usb is awful but it works 2016-07-19T04:13:55 < dongs> if you dont care that its awful 2016-07-19T04:13:57 < dongs> and just link to it. 2016-07-19T04:14:50 < dongs> i only do class stuff, so that, or when I made class-less stuff I just used cyusb illegally 2016-07-19T04:15:21 < dongs> class stuff. like, usb audio, usb cdc, etc. 2016-07-19T04:15:27 < dongs> driverless shit 2016-07-19T04:16:07 < dongs> cypress USB driver thing, i guess its less relevant now that winusb is here 2016-07-19T04:16:20 < dongs> been using cypress shit since back in 2k/xp days 2016-07-19T04:17:27 < dongs> ST usb lib has some samples for cdc/audio/msc/wahtever classes 2016-07-19T04:17:29 < dongs> no 2016-07-19T04:18:52 < aandrew> http://i.imgur.com/BNlLIPe.jpg 2016-07-19T04:20:18 < dongs> yes 2016-07-19T04:20:24 < dongs> only used the ones with stdperiph 2016-07-19T04:20:27 < dongs> no idea bout hal 2016-07-19T04:20:31 < dongs> not using any devices with it 2016-07-19T04:21:17 < dongs> well, technically, so is USB lib 2016-07-19T04:21:22 < dongs> (just program registers) 2016-07-19T04:21:31 < dongs> im way to lazy to open my last project with it 2016-07-19T04:21:41 < dongs> but i think most of hte suff inside usb.c from ST stuff is just direct register dicking 2016-07-19T04:23:53 < dongs> like, pretty much any? 2016-07-19T04:24:05 < dongs> lwip just runs in a loop with ethernet IRQ. 2016-07-19T04:24:39 < dongs> zyp: "12000" thing is kinda on the light side. 2016-07-19T04:24:48 < dongs> also interesting charge strategy 2016-07-19T04:24:56 < dongs> it starts at 500mA 2016-07-19T04:25:01 < dongs> and steps up (i guess watching for voltage drop) 2016-07-19T04:25:06 < dongs> and peaks out at 2A 2016-07-19T04:25:16 < dongs> and it was 50megs? 2016-07-19T04:25:17 < dongs> oh 2016-07-19T04:25:23 < dongs> you need to link QT trash statically 2016-07-19T04:25:32 < dongs> to make it 50megs. 2016-07-19T04:28:03 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PCB-Layout/PCB-improvement/ (ended 2 weeks ago) -> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Hardware-prototyping-SIM-Arduino/ desperate paki trying to outsource it to someone e lse 2016-07-19T04:29:28 < dongs> fucking kenya 2016-07-19T04:29:32 < dongs> do they even have internet there 2016-07-19T04:29:53 < dongs> “She is cheater.She wasted my 24 hours and have not done even one questions out of 7.Totally disaster on this site.” 2016-07-19T04:30:42 < dongs> heh ya the thing is definitely watching for voltage drop 2016-07-19T04:30:44 < dongs> this is cool 2016-07-19T04:30:56 < dongs> and it stops drawing more current when V drops below 4.95 2016-07-19T04:32:05 < dongs> the real test is... so fucking tempting 2016-07-19T04:32:10 < dongs> there's a in/out USB-C pllug 2016-07-19T04:32:13 < dongs> and a OUT plug 2016-07-19T04:32:16 < dongs> USB-A 2016-07-19T04:32:23 < dongs> it comes with a short A->C cable 2016-07-19T04:32:30 < dongs> wanna plug the A end into there :D 2016-07-19T04:34:35 < dongs> < crt> can these pakilancers actually do anything? 2016-07-19T04:34:35 < dongs> no 2016-07-19T04:37:59 < aandrew> http://i.imgur.com/RGrUNcI.gifv 2016-07-19T04:38:14 < dongs> so old 2016-07-19T04:40:28 < dongs> http://steamcharts.com/app/227300 haha 2016-07-19T04:41:16 < dongs> look at the drop and date 2016-07-19T04:42:33 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack k i guess its a couple days late 2016-07-19T04:51:31 < dongs> write your own wrapper for qcustomplot 2016-07-19T04:51:37 < dongs> opensores that 2016-07-19T04:51:42 < dongs> as lgpl 2016-07-19T04:51:46 < dongs> then just use that 2016-07-19T04:51:47 < dongs> nope 2016-07-19T04:52:04 < dongs> yes 2016-07-19T04:52:07 < dongs> so jusjt opensores the wrapper 2016-07-19T04:52:21 < dongs> libR2COM->Draw(cocks); 2016-07-19T04:52:24 < dongs> opensores libR2COM 2016-07-19T04:56:48 < ds2> how odd is it for heat to kill a chip but not a hard drive :( 2016-07-19T04:57:18 < dongs> http://nypost.com/2013/06/21/man-with-140-lbs-testicles-unhappy-with-removal-surgery-after-op-leaves-him-with-1-inch-penis/ 2016-07-19T05:03:50 < ds2> crt: got a NAS in a box thing (SoC + HD) that died. took it apart... the CPU board is dead but the HD is just fine 2016-07-19T05:04:12 < ds2> it is a cavium chip.... maybe MIPS chips run too hot for their own good 2016-07-19T05:05:24 < ds2> this is a first time...usually heat kills the HD first 2016-07-19T05:05:26 < dongs> m 2016-07-19T05:05:31 < dongs> switching layers has been awfully slow in altidumb latelyt 2016-07-19T05:05:34 < dongs> time to restart 2016-07-19T05:06:10 < dongs> yeah, cuz it actually uses modern technologies 2016-07-19T05:06:11 < dongs> like directx 12 2016-07-19T05:06:18 < dongs> it can actually be quite fast 2016-07-19T05:06:25 < dongs> unlike your shit cuckcad from 1996 2016-07-19T05:06:28 < dongs> still drawing using GDI 2016-07-19T05:06:45 < ds2> windows crap :P 2016-07-19T05:07:04 < dongs> oh lawld 2016-07-19T05:07:05 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-19T05:07:09 < dongs> my memory 27gb in use 2016-07-19T05:07:24 < dongs> not by altidumb ewither 2016-07-19T05:07:26 < ds2> much rather do layout in curses ;) 2016-07-19T05:08:09 < dongs> its my fucking jap bank 2016-07-19T05:08:17 < dongs> with their retarded self-signed certificates 2016-07-19T05:08:25 < dongs> i forgot i had IE open to them while it was failing trying to load 2016-07-19T05:08:29 < dongs> that shit ate 25gb 2016-07-19T05:08:31 < dongs> reboot time 2016-07-19T05:09:19 < ds2> your system has probally been taken over by skype for their purposes 2016-07-19T05:17:39 < dongs> receive free cancer 2016-07-19T05:20:33 < dongs> speaking of fail soft 2016-07-19T05:20:37 < dongs> waht do you think of japs buying ARM, R2COM 2016-07-19T05:20:50 < dongs> just new hipster shit 2016-07-19T05:21:05 < dongs> the real thing is at the .pro domain 2016-07-19T05:21:09 < dongs> like http://cloner.pro 2016-07-19T05:22:02 < dongs> R2COM: funniest thing is tehy only bought it so they can get iphones for cheaper 2016-07-19T05:22:07 < dongs> so they dont have to pay arm license fee. 2016-07-19T05:22:38 < dongs> they thought arm does 2016-07-19T05:23:09 < dongs> why cant they just refuse the buyout? 2016-07-19T05:23:31 < dongs> they dont exactly NEED money for anything 2016-07-19T05:23:39 < dongs> thier stock is at highest it ever been (before buyout as well) 2016-07-19T05:23:49 < dongs> they've got non-ending stream of revenue from license sales 2016-07-19T05:24:00 < dongs> they don't have to DO anything to keep making money. 2016-07-19T05:24:13 < dongs> so its hard to believe they would "run out? 2016-07-19T05:25:58 < dongs> they'd have to really hate their company i guess 2016-07-19T05:27:30 < dongs> crt: more like softbank4lyfe 2016-07-19T05:31:05 < dongs> arm is already losing to intel 2016-07-19T05:31:06 < dongs> on high end 2016-07-19T05:31:09 < dongs> A15 = shitheap 2016-07-19T05:31:15 < dongs> intel stuff is better and lower power 2016-07-19T05:31:29 < dongs> so they might be just fucked 2016-07-19T05:31:32 < ds2> a15??? that's not high end 2016-07-19T05:33:05 < dongs> ds2: high end as in expensive + 'high performance' 2016-07-19T05:33:32 < ds2> intel used to make many risc processors fo rembedded use 2016-07-19T05:33:41 < ds2> dongs: arm has higher end processors then the a15's 2016-07-19T05:33:55 < ds2> at least the least compare it to the 64bit ones 2016-07-19T05:35:26 < dongs> ds2, i never need to have facts when im trolling 2016-07-19T05:35:31 < ds2> :P 2016-07-19T05:35:36 < dongs> i just throw something ou there and then let the others figure it out 2016-07-19T05:36:34 < dongs> how's that pin header sthing going 2016-07-19T05:36:37 < dongs> do you still want them 2016-07-19T05:37:01 < dongs> or did you call scamtec with ytour china quote and they said "oh sorry, our prices were off by 10x" 2016-07-19T05:37:24 < ds2> dongs: was traveling last week... just got back. will get back to it this week 2016-07-19T05:37:41 < dongs> samtec, making america great again 2016-07-19T05:38:06 < ds2> dong: I need to finalize some mechanicals first 2016-07-19T05:38:23 < dongs> ya no problem im just trolling anyway, as usual 2016-07-19T05:38:32 < dongs> does beagleboner use 1.27mm pitch headers? 2016-07-19T05:38:35 < dongs> or is that only for bb mini thing 2016-07-19T05:38:45 < dongs> i mean like fullsize boner-black or whatever 2016-07-19T05:38:46 < ds2> the original one is 2.54mm 2016-07-19T05:38:58 < dongs> ah, kay 2016-07-19T05:39:02 < ds2> I am using 1.27mm for mine 2016-07-19T05:39:07 < ds2> 1/2 size 2016-07-19T05:39:23 < dongs> the worst kind is 2mm 2016-07-19T05:39:40 < dongs> you see those and rage boils 2016-07-19T05:39:45 < ds2> yes... working on a board with that. 2016-07-19T05:39:47 < dongs> cuz you knwo you'll never find mating parts for them 2016-07-19T05:40:14 < ds2> ftdi makes a cable with them 2016-07-19T05:40:27 < ds2> but the layout guy used the wrong pinout 2016-07-19T05:43:30 < dongs> sheesh 2016-07-19T05:43:40 < dongs> from one obscurity (2mm headers) to another (ftdI) 2016-07-19T05:54:38 < Rob235> drone dash has been running for 6 or so hours and hasn't crashed so that's a good sign 2016-07-19T05:54:53 < dongs> did you rename it to vappy yet 2016-07-19T05:55:08 < Rob235> I dont know if you saw, redid it in processing 2016-07-19T05:55:19 < dongs> from shit to utter shit 2016-07-19T05:55:45 < Rob235> hah shocking reaction. processing is working great although I'm only halfway there 2016-07-19T05:56:02 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/XiQPk 2016-07-19T06:03:03 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-19T06:04:04 < englishman> did you know? via's original x86 c-series (early 2000s) was developed in 2 years by <60 people for $15m 2016-07-19T06:04:09 < englishman> i think arm did well, considering 2016-07-19T06:04:33 < dongs> did you also know VIA was fucking garbage? 2016-07-19T06:04:42 < dongs> intel banned them from making chipsets for their newer CPUs 2016-07-19T06:04:42 < englishman> on the high end sure 2016-07-19T06:04:46 < dongs> because they pumped literally nothing but trash 2016-07-19T06:04:49 < englishman> but who was doing mini itx before via 2016-07-19T06:05:15 < englishman> there shit was never designed for >800mhz 2016-07-19T06:05:25 < englishman> but for $30 cpu there was nothing else 2016-07-19T06:05:50 < englishman> arm got their payday before there are over9000 small mcu makers that dont suck 2016-07-19T06:07:51 < dongs> i thought thers' only one that doesnt suck 2016-07-19T06:07:54 < dongs> that being ST 2016-07-19T06:08:04 < dongs> the remaining 8999 are trash liek NXP and TI 2016-07-19T06:11:03 < englishman> who knows 2016-07-19T06:11:22 < englishman> someone waves $32bn in your face, and you live in shithole country with no country friends, you take it 2016-07-19T06:12:16 < dongs> well, its not like arm is gonna relocate to great nippon 2016-07-19T06:12:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T06:13:04 < englishman> i hope for their sake they didnt take £ 2016-07-19T06:13:10 < englishman> then theyd be truly buggered 2016-07-19T06:13:18 < dongs> waht shitty unicode character is that 2016-07-19T06:13:19 < dongs> GBP? 2016-07-19T06:13:21 < dongs> or EUR 2016-07-19T06:13:28 < dongs> i blame lunix and opensores 2016-07-19T06:13:31 < dongs> on not being able to see it 2016-07-19T06:13:40 < englishman> i knew you lunix desktop'd 2016-07-19T06:13:58 < englishman> thats why you never understand any videos that have audio in them 2016-07-19T06:14:00 < englishman> cuz it doesnt work 2016-07-19T06:14:33 < englishman> i bet its weechat even 2016-07-19T06:29:47 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T06:53:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-19T06:54:21 < dongs> weechat, yeah 2016-07-19T06:54:43 < dongs> good plan 2016-07-19T06:54:46 < dongs> innovation time 2016-07-19T06:57:07 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T07:53:31 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T07:56:16 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/GNU-project-for-the-STM/ 2016-07-19T07:56:26 < englishman> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bioring-the-personal-trainer-on-your-finger#/ 2016-07-19T07:56:27 < englishman> dongs 2016-07-19T07:56:45 < dongs> lol 2016-07-19T07:57:02 < englishman> whats a bio-impedance sensor 2016-07-19T07:57:15 < dongs> wait 2016-07-19T07:57:17 < dongs> ive seen taht before 2016-07-19T07:57:27 -!- daey [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-19T07:57:31 -!- flutterbat is now known as daey 2016-07-19T07:57:33 < dongs> https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1465762952/Ring_Render_e24m7o.jpg 2016-07-19T07:57:36 < dongs> this 2016-07-19T07:57:37 < englishman> how about an optical led sensor 2016-07-19T07:58:10 < dongs> o yeah 2016-07-19T07:58:12 < dongs> its that swede scam 2016-07-19T07:58:17 < dongs> did they start to release something? 2016-07-19T07:58:18 < dongs> or still stalling 2016-07-19T07:58:49 < dongs> If you’d like to upgrade to this precious metal, all you have to do is back this Secret Perk. 2016-07-19T07:58:50 < englishman> 11 days left 2016-07-19T07:58:53 < englishman> wheres the original 2016-07-19T07:59:08 < dongs> hmmmm wat 2016-07-19T07:59:13 < dongs> i thought i saw it monnths ago 2016-07-19T07:59:38 < englishman> probably 2016-07-19T07:59:44 < englishman> im not saying you didnt 2016-07-19T07:59:53 < dongs> http://www.cousin-biotech.com/en/products-cousin-biotech/obesity-gastric-band-for-surgical-treatment-obesity/bioring-adjustable-gastric-band 2016-07-19T08:00:42 < dongs> hmm all blags are from around june 20th 2016-07-19T08:00:43 < dongs> pfft 2016-07-19T08:00:46 < dongs> maybe i was stoned 2016-07-19T08:01:13 < englishman> typical 2016-07-19T08:01:25 < dongs> anyway tyhey're gonna have some trouble 2016-07-19T08:01:32 < dongs> as i'd imagine that cousin-biotech thing is an acutal registered mark 2016-07-19T08:01:34 < englishman> im glad it can measure water levels 2016-07-19T08:01:43 < englishman> the sump pump in the basement is on the fritz 2016-07-19T08:01:44 < dongs> unlike the (r) (tm) those faggots stuck on their shit 2016-07-19T08:02:21 < dongs> https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1465740723/2_obsrni.jpg 2016-07-19T08:02:33 < dongs> whjat the fuck is even that thing with spinning disk on it 2016-07-19T08:02:35 < dongs> in top right 2016-07-19T08:02:46 < dongs> whatever it is, it has nothing to do wiht any rings 2016-07-19T08:04:03 < englishman> someting for wafers 2016-07-19T08:04:07 < englishman> but not spin coating 2016-07-19T08:04:30 < englishman> maybe theres some piece removed 2016-07-19T08:06:55 < dongs> Charging station uses Qi - wireless charging 2016-07-19T08:06:56 < dongs> lole 2016-07-19T08:07:05 < dongs> have they not realized it needs a coil 2016-07-19T08:07:06 < dongs> to charge 2016-07-19T08:07:23 < englishman> its a ring 2016-07-19T08:07:27 < englishman> therefore coil 2016-07-19T08:07:35 < englishman> charges vbat+ directly 2016-07-19T08:07:38 < englishman> in that 1mAh batter 2016-07-19T08:07:38 < dongs> thats not how it works 2016-07-19T08:07:39 < englishman> y 2016-07-19T08:07:47 < englishman> stfu 2016-07-19T08:07:52 < englishman> they hve $50k development costs 2016-07-19T08:07:58 < englishman> including production 2016-07-19T08:08:09 < englishman> they know what theyre doig 2016-07-19T08:08:35 < dongs> i dont believe you 2016-07-19T08:42:11 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T08:46:31 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqqsnjsaqbvtwvoi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T09:04:58 < dongs> http://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/attention-seeking-kid-keow-wee-loong/ 2016-07-19T09:04:59 < dongs> LOL 2016-07-19T09:13:42 < englishman> saw that coming 2016-07-19T09:17:29 < dongs> he trolled every shitty weeb blog in existence tho 2016-07-19T09:19:17 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T09:25:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T09:26:30 < upgrdman_> tempted to build a pc (again) ... is new shit coming out soon, or is now ripe? like nvidia has some gtx1080 chip or something? and intel i7's... ? 2016-07-19T09:26:57 < dongs> 1080 lol. 2016-07-19T09:27:01 < dongs> wait for 1060 single slots to drop 2016-07-19T09:27:07 < dongs> or rx480 amd single slot 2016-07-19T09:27:17 < dongs> no, nothign new is coming 2016-07-19T09:27:30 < upgrdman_> crt, no but "yes" ... i want to get back into 3d graphics, so basically a gaymer rig without the gaymes 2016-07-19T09:28:15 < upgrdman_> ya. im a blender fucker 2016-07-19T09:28:22 < upgrdman_> super non-pro 2016-07-19T09:28:27 < dongs> new shit is kaby lake 2016-07-19T09:28:31 < dongs> which wont be out until 2017 2016-07-19T09:28:36 < upgrdman_> is kaby out yet 2016-07-19T09:28:39 < upgrdman_> o 2016-07-19T09:28:51 < upgrdman_> current is ivy lake? 2016-07-19T09:28:51 < dongs> doesnt matter it doenst bring anything new 2016-07-19T09:28:56 < dongs> kike 2016-07-19T09:29:02 < dongs> aka skylake 2016-07-19T09:29:21 < upgrdman_> will they be mobo compatible? 2016-07-19T09:29:22 < dongs> just get i7-6700 (or K if you enjoy huge heatsinks) and done 2016-07-19T09:29:24 < dongs> nope 2016-07-19T09:29:50 < dongs> z170pro+6700 or 6700k 2016-07-19T09:30:03 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T09:30:08 < dongs> or if you wanna waste $ 2016-07-19T09:30:15 < upgrdman_> my issue is i first gotta find a nice looking small case. regular atx mobo size, but i have zero need for any 5.25" drive slots. 2016-07-19T09:30:15 < dongs> get 6800K and a LGA2011 board 2016-07-19T09:30:41 < upgrdman_> 6800 > 6700? 2016-07-19T09:30:49 < dongs> only more pcie lanes 2016-07-19T09:30:54 < upgrdman_> k 2016-07-19T09:31:01 < dongs> well, and yeah some core shit but who cares 2016-07-19T09:31:21 < dongs> but basically its the only two choices 2016-07-19T09:31:39 < dongs> 6700 or 6800, whether you want 1151 or 2011 socket. 2016-07-19T09:32:02 < upgrdman_> is 2011 really 2011 pads/pins? 2016-07-19T09:32:05 < dongs> yes 2016-07-19T09:32:13 < dongs> most are: gnd 2016-07-19T09:32:13 < upgrdman_> damn son 2016-07-19T09:32:21 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-07-19T09:32:33 < dongs> pretty sure AMD had more pins 2016-07-19T09:35:11 < akaWolf> upgrdman_: which one video card should I buy? 2016-07-19T09:35:20 < dongs> 500bux for 6800k 2016-07-19T09:35:22 < dongs> fuck that noise 2016-07-19T09:35:27 < dongs> 6700 is like $300 2016-07-19T09:35:28 < dongs> or osmeshit 2016-07-19T09:36:24 < upgrdman_> akaWolf, no idea, that's why i was asking in here 2016-07-19T09:36:36 < upgrdman_> the last time i build a pc, amd was competetive. so ya... 2016-07-19T09:37:10 < akaWolf> dongs: ? 2016-07-19T09:37:17 < dongs> i thought rx480 was pretty good if you dont midn dual slots 2016-07-19T09:37:55 < dongs> but AMD cpus? lol.. 2016-07-19T09:38:57 < dongs> does he? 2016-07-19T09:38:59 < dongs> why would he care 2016-07-19T09:39:14 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-19T09:39:17 < emeryth> except not, amd cpu also have secret firmware inside 2016-07-19T09:39:27 < upgrdman_> maybe amd silicon is laid out with the GNU silicon tool 2016-07-19T09:39:35 < upgrdman_> that could explain the shittiness 2016-07-19T09:39:50 < akaWolf> hm.. AMD GPUs are cheaper then NVIDIA 2016-07-19T09:40:05 < dongs> only now 2016-07-19T09:40:09 < dongs> because they started giving them awayt 2016-07-19T09:40:10 < dongs> which is ok 2016-07-19T09:40:18 < dongs> i'll give rx480 a try once they release workstation single-slot version 2016-07-19T09:40:26 < dongs> i like that AMD has displyport 1.4 2016-07-19T09:40:49 < akaWolf> I want to play a games and I dont know which video should I buy 2016-07-19T09:41:27 < akaWolf> gtx 980 ti? 2016-07-19T09:49:30 < dongs> no 2016-07-19T09:49:34 < dongs> thats old 2016-07-19T09:50:41 < akaWolf> which one then? 2016-07-19T09:51:50 < dongs> 10x0 series is new. 2016-07-19T09:52:00 < akaWolf> 1080 2016-07-19T09:52:05 < akaWolf> nice 2016-07-19T09:52:06 < dongs> or 1070 or 1060. 2016-07-19T09:54:56 < akaWolf> or maybe R9 Fury X? 2016-07-19T09:55:01 < akaWolf> or 390X? 2016-07-19T10:11:13 < dongs> all those are old 2016-07-19T10:11:18 < dongs> 480 is new. 2016-07-19T10:11:30 < dongs> it makes no sense to buy old stuff if youre buying new parts. 2016-07-19T10:12:50 -!- faws [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T10:13:10 < akaWolf> well I have 4770K, he is old enough 2016-07-19T10:13:41 < akaWolf> make it sens to buy a new card for old cpu? 2016-07-19T10:13:44 < akaWolf> e 2016-07-19T10:13:49 < dongs> doesnt matter 2016-07-19T10:13:56 < dongs> rx480 is $200 2016-07-19T10:14:11 < dongs> thats cheap enough to just waste 2016-07-19T10:14:15 < dongs> new nvidia is $400+ 2016-07-19T10:14:36 < akaWolf> and what should I buy? new amd or new nvidia? 2016-07-19T10:14:46 < faws> I'm using STM32f0. Suppose I use EEPROM emulation on the flash and store UART config settings in the flash. During start-up, stm32 will first read from the flash and initialize uart accordingly. Is this do-able? 2016-07-19T10:14:55 < dongs> akaWolf: gtx1080 is $650+ looks like 2016-07-19T10:14:58 < dongs> new amd is $200 2016-07-19T10:15:01 < dongs> choice is easy 2016-07-19T10:15:24 < dongs> faws: yes, but forget "eeprom emulation" shit just write to the last 1-2 flash blocks and read it at startup 2016-07-19T10:15:59 < dongs> write = erase page, write page (like a struct/whatever). Read, just struct *foo = (struct *)last_page_address; 2016-07-19T10:16:34 < faws> dongs, thanks. what if I want to configure 3 uarts instead of 1. Any problems? 2016-07-19T10:16:43 < upgrdman_> i wonder if 4k gaming is doable with the gtx1080 2016-07-19T10:16:51 < dongs> faws: how does uart have anything to do with flash writing? 2016-07-19T10:17:00 < dongs> upgrdman_: i game in 4K wiht K1200 2016-07-19T10:17:09 < dongs> my favorite game is dxp.exe 2016-07-19T10:17:14 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-07-19T10:17:31 < upgrdman_> "boom headshot" as altidongs crashes 2016-07-19T10:17:35 < dongs> yes,. 2016-07-19T10:17:45 < faws> dongs, i think there shouldn't be any problem. reading 1 settings and reading 3 settings should not make big difference 2016-07-19T10:18:41 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T10:18:45 < dongs> faws: you can just setup your settings wahtever way you want, if you have a uartconfig struct or something, just setup a checkbyte or something in there, say uart index or osmeshit, and keep reading them in a loop until you hit FF 2016-07-19T10:19:32 < dongs> so config * ptr = (config *)flash_addr; whlie (ptr->check != 0xff) { config shit; ptr++; } or wahtever with any error checking you need/want to add 2016-07-19T10:19:37 -!- daey is now known as flutterbat 2016-07-19T10:20:10 < dongs> if 1st thing is empty, then your setup is probly blank, so branch off to some routine that fills up default config settings. 2016-07-19T10:20:29 < dongs> adjust your linker/flash size to make sure your code doesnt end up overwriting last page of flash 2016-07-19T10:20:38 < upgrdman_> faws, here my f0 flash code: https://github.com/farrellf/Servo_Tester/blob/master/f0lib/f0lib_flash.c?ts=4 2016-07-19T10:21:00 < dongs> looks good 2016-07-19T10:21:16 < upgrdman_> and reading from it is here: https://github.com/farrellf/Servo_Tester/blob/master/main.c#L80?ts=4 2016-07-19T10:21:33 < dongs> cool, its literally wat i said 2016-07-19T10:21:58 < upgrdman_> and writing to it is here: https://github.com/farrellf/Servo_Tester/blob/master/screen_calibration.c#L84?ts=4 2016-07-19T10:24:52 < dongs> that for loop in write is kinda gay 2016-07-19T10:25:04 < dongs> i would have calculated the address outside the loop 2016-07-19T10:25:07 < dongs> for clarity 2016-07-19T10:25:27 < dongs> and your end would be simply addr + PAGE_SIZE 2016-07-19T10:25:34 < dongs> instead of re-calculating it again 2016-07-19T10:25:35 < dongs> or wahtever 2016-07-19T10:25:48 * upgrdman_ nods 2016-07-19T10:26:05 < dongs> or addr + bytes_to_write as it seems 2016-07-19T10:26:06 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-19T10:27:15 < dongs> have you seen "eeprom emulation" HAL shit from ST? 2016-07-19T10:27:18 < dongs> its like 60k .c file 2016-07-19T10:27:24 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-19T10:27:32 < dongs> i have no idea how they managed to blow this up 2016-07-19T10:27:51 < upgrdman> maybe they're freelancer'ing their HAL 2016-07-19T10:38:59 < Steffanx> New 1080 is also way faster then new rx480 dongs 2016-07-19T10:39:09 < dongs> dude no way. 2016-07-19T10:39:14 < dongs> not $400 faster tho 2016-07-19T10:39:26 < dongs> like 1fps more in pokemon go or something, i don't think thats worth the $ differnce 2016-07-19T10:40:01 < flutterbat> 1fps may make the difference between catching that caterpillar or not catching it! 2016-07-19T10:40:39 < Steffanx> In the comparison the they do crossfire rx480 all the time 2016-07-19T10:41:29 < Steffanx> -the 2016-07-19T10:46:47 < qyx> http://www.ultraviewcorp.com/images/AD14x16_65MSPS.jpg 2016-07-19T10:46:49 < qyx> lol @ routing 2016-07-19T10:46:59 < dongs> lol 2016-07-19T10:47:03 < dongs> thats topor isnt it 2016-07-19T10:47:14 < emeryth> maker grade routing 2016-07-19T10:47:15 < dongs> or not 2016-07-19T10:47:18 < dongs> looks like just fuckoffor 2016-07-19T10:48:05 < faws> thanks for all the tips. Will study carefully 2016-07-19T10:48:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T10:54:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-19T11:01:24 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T11:04:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-19T11:18:38 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-19T11:29:58 < dongs> pump something funnier 2016-07-19T11:30:52 < dongs> not much 2016-07-19T11:30:57 < dongs> routed 2 boards today 2016-07-19T11:31:10 < Steffanx> Autorouter pro. 2016-07-19T11:31:14 < dongs> i only do 2L 2016-07-19T11:31:14 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-19T11:31:21 < dongs> even when most trolls would do 4 2016-07-19T11:31:28 < dongs> thats why I'm pro 2016-07-19T11:31:43 -!- knielsen [~knielsen@0106ds1-hvi.0.fullrate.ninja] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T11:31:59 < Steffanx> 2 layer maker style. 2016-07-19T11:33:24 < dongs> autorouter is mega fail 2016-07-19T11:36:53 < BrainDamage> what are they autisming about? diy radios using razor blades and copper scraps? 2016-07-19T11:39:08 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/php/CREATED-SOFTWARE-APPLICATION-URGENT/ 2016-07-19T11:42:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:289d:8598:3cb5:1de0] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T11:43:31 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@217-211-191-115-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-19T11:46:24 -!- Jak_o_Shadows1 [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T11:47:07 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-19T11:56:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-165.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T12:03:27 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-19T12:05:55 < dongs> your workdesk must be filled with stuff that has to do with pumping 2016-07-19T12:28:39 < dongs> ughhhhhhhhjkkhsdfkjsdhfkj 2016-07-19T12:42:01 < Steffanx> No one ordered it. So why you have it crt? 2016-07-19T12:42:11 < Steffanx> Or did you not order it 2016-07-19T12:43:11 < Steffanx> So now you got it for freez? 2016-07-19T12:47:01 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T12:52:47 < BrainDamage> more like 4chin 2016-07-19T12:55:41 < Steffanx> 4enceb__. 2016-07-19T12:57:49 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-07-19T12:57:51 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-19T12:58:26 < Laurenceb__> bbl 2016-07-19T13:03:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-19T13:25:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:289d:8598:3cb5:1de0] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-19T13:29:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-165.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T13:50:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-19T13:55:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-69.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T13:55:54 < zyp> dongs, apparently the us guy is moving, so I'll probably have to send you his new addr before his half of the panels ship 2016-07-19T13:56:43 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T13:59:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T14:09:10 < dongs> ok. just email. 2016-07-19T14:09:27 < zyp> yeah, when I get it 2016-07-19T14:09:36 < zyp> how far are they from shipping now? 2016-07-19T14:10:22 < dongs> like tomorrow if nothing fucks up 2016-07-19T14:11:02 < zyp> ah, nice 2016-07-19T14:12:06 < dongs> zyp, im plugging random USB cables into the QC charger and throwing away any that don't fastcharge amidoing it right 2016-07-19T14:12:10 < dongs> i threw away liek 3 already 2016-07-19T14:12:24 < dongs> why the fuck is it so hard to make a fucking USB cable that works 2016-07-19T14:17:11 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: PaulFertser] 2016-07-19T14:18:03 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T14:18:51 < dongs> wut 2016-07-19T14:18:54 < Sync> because it costs monies 2016-07-19T14:18:57 < dongs> akaWolf = PaulFertser ? 2016-07-19T14:19:24 < akaWolf> wut? 2016-07-19T14:19:25 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v0swyrkg178ro.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-19T14:19:32 < dongs> -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Quit: PaulFertser] 2016-07-19T14:19:42 < akaWolf> xD 2016-07-19T14:19:49 < akaWolf> irssi lag 2016-07-19T14:20:08 < PaulFertser> dongs: duh, of course not 2016-07-19T14:20:32 < PaulFertser> dongs: I'm not using multiple IRC identities, unlike some others ;) 2016-07-19T14:20:38 -!- faws [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-19T14:20:41 < dongs> errr 2016-07-19T14:20:45 < dongs> waht are you implying 2016-07-19T14:21:38 < PaulFertser> dongs: I've seen you as KawaiiUsagiSomething on some other channel 2016-07-19T14:21:49 < dongs> thats cuz its for trolling 2016-07-19T14:22:08 < dongs> cuz that channel is full of weebs (i.e. bunnie 2016-07-19T14:22:09 < akaWolf> time of de anon 2016-07-19T14:24:12 < dongs> let's not go there 2016-07-19T14:36:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T14:37:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-19T14:37:17 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T14:37:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@107.161.88.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-19T14:39:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T14:41:43 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-19T14:54:28 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQDCHQ0KPSA&feature=player_detailpage#t=380 2016-07-19T14:54:46 < Laurenceb> sup trawls? 2016-07-19T15:00:06 < dekar> esden, do you have schematics for the BMPM2? 2016-07-19T15:00:38 < dongs> isnt it opensores 2016-07-19T15:01:27 < dekar> I think so, though I'm not sure if it's open hardware. 2016-07-19T15:02:20 < dongs> https://github.com/blacksphere/blackmagic-hardware 2016-07-19T15:02:30 < dongs> h2h 2016-07-19T15:02:43 < dekar> dongs, it's the version 1, not version 2. 2016-07-19T15:03:10 < dongs> Eagle 100% 2016-07-19T15:03:12 < dongs> closing page 2016-07-19T15:03:33 < dekar> esden, I also realised it still draws reverse power from the target, even though the new design was supposed to fix that: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/bmp_issues/bmpm2_reverse_power.jpg 2016-07-19T15:03:33 < dongs> https://github.com/blacksphere/blackmagic-hardware/tree/master/contrib/bmp2 2016-07-19T15:03:34 < dongs> how about this? 2016-07-19T15:03:41 < Steffanx> There is a folder: bmp2 contrip. Thats not correct? 2016-07-19T15:03:48 < Steffanx> Oh what dongs said 2016-07-19T15:03:57 < dongs> the title seems to say "bmp2 mini" 2016-07-19T15:04:00 < dongs> unless there's a minier version 2016-07-19T15:04:39 < dekar> dongs, I don't think so, commit was too old. 2016-07-19T15:04:44 < Steffanx> By ericb. Is that emeb? 2016-07-19T15:04:50 < dongs> i think so 2016-07-19T15:04:58 < dongs> i think thats his version that I assembled 2016-07-19T15:05:01 < dongs> and recently found 2 of 2016-07-19T15:05:31 < dongs> is that a QFN STM32 2016-07-19T15:05:35 < dongs> looks pretty pro 2016-07-19T15:05:42 < Laurenceb> blackmajic?! 2016-07-19T15:05:45 < Laurenceb> fails for me 2016-07-19T15:06:00 < dekar> dongs, yeah 2016-07-19T15:06:19 < Steffanx> Pebkac. Laurence. 2016-07-19T15:06:25 < Laurenceb> omg 8chan appears https://i.sli.mg/QKty00.jpg 2016-07-19T15:06:32 < Laurenceb> nice teeth 2016-07-19T15:06:33 < dekar> But the level shifter seems to make problems, BMPM2 doesn't work with STM3241G. :/ 2016-07-19T15:07:20 < dongs> aw 2016-07-19T15:07:29 < dongs> 41what? 2016-07-19T15:07:30 < dongs> 410? 2016-07-19T15:07:35 < dongs> 401? 2016-07-19T15:09:41 < dekar> dongs, http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/product-evaluation-tools/mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-eval-boards/stm3241g-eval.html 2016-07-19T15:09:58 < dongs> ah 417 2016-07-19T15:10:04 < dekar> Doesn't work with ST Eval Board. 2016-07-19T15:10:13 < dongs> are you sure its not working because you didnt disconnect embedded stlink? 2016-07-19T15:10:19 < dekar> Works on some custom PCB for me. 2016-07-19T15:10:37 < dekar> You don't need to, I don't even think you can. 2016-07-19T15:10:53 < dongs> what doyou think its not doing? 2016-07-19T15:10:58 < dongs> its 3.3V I/O board right? 2016-07-19T15:11:01 < dongs> thats pretty hard to fuck up 2016-07-19T15:11:10 < Laurenceb> lul RNC live chat is getting trolled hard 2016-07-19T15:11:47 < dekar> dongs, "It is possible to power the board via CN21 (embedded ST-LINK/V2 USB connector) even if 2016-07-19T15:11:47 < dekar> an external tool is connected to CN13 (trace) or CN14 (external JTAG and SWD)." 2016-07-19T15:11:51 < dekar> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/user_manual/f6/38/77/c2/9f/01/4a/26/DM00036744.pdf/files/DM00036744.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00036744.pdf 2016-07-19T15:11:57 < dongs> U.S. airstrike kills over 160 civilians, mostly women and children, in Tukhar village, north of Menbij, Syria, ISIS' Amaq News Agency says. 2016-07-19T15:12:10 < Laurenceb> crt: Rupiblican national convention 2016-07-19T15:12:17 < Laurenceb> i canna spell 2016-07-19T15:12:32 < Laurenceb> dongs: but muh ebil russians 2016-07-19T15:12:33 < dekar> dongs, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/bmp_issues/bmpm1_scope2_tck.png 2016-07-19T15:12:36 < dekar> dongs, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/bmp_issues/bmpm2_scope1_tck.png 2016-07-19T15:13:03 < dekar> dongs, first is BMPM V1, second V2. 2016-07-19T15:13:17 < dongs> so level shifter uses target vcc, did you hook that up? 2016-07-19T15:13:54 < dekar> dongs, I plugged it in. Probed the 3V3 on the adapter and it's fine. 2016-07-19T15:14:18 < dekar> Also the BMPM2 detects the voltage. 2016-07-19T15:14:22 < dongs> mhm 2016-07-19T15:14:44 < dekar> dongs, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p5y0we9dm7y89ay/AAA__vwUT27u4mdq-xI32cRKa?dl=0 2016-07-19T15:15:10 < dongs> i see 2016-07-19T15:15:17 < dongs> looks faleing. 2016-07-19T15:15:20 < dekar> dongs, I have a ton of BMP, adapters and eval-boards with me. So I'm pretty sure it's not a one-off connection problem. 2016-07-19T15:20:41 < dekar> dongs, the new BMP uses a TXS0108. I think it might get confused about the directionality, given that it's a bi-directional level shifter. 2016-07-19T15:23:47 < dekar> I mean if I wouldn't have any information I'd guess the TXS wasn't fast enough. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/bmp_issues/bmpm2_scope2_tck.png 2016-07-19T15:24:10 < dekar> But the datasheet states it can handle over 100Mbps. 2016-07-19T15:27:42 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T15:29:59 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-19T15:32:31 < dekar> crt, I have two BMPM2, both of them have the same problem. And to be honest I'd rather just return them and get BMPM1 instead. 2016-07-19T15:33:48 < dekar> It seems like the TXS0108E has lots of known problems. :/ 2016-07-19T15:33:49 < dekar> https://e2e.ti.com/support/interface/etc_interface/f/391/t/270365 2016-07-19T15:34:48 < dekar> There's also a section on Output Load Considerations in the datasheet. I guess it's a design problem with the BMPM2. 2016-07-19T15:36:07 < dekar> Layout Guidelines: "PCB signal trace-lengths must be kept short enough so that the round-trip delay of any reflection is less than 2016-07-19T15:36:08 < dekar> the one shot duration, approximately 30 ns, ensuring that any reflection encounters low impedance at the 2016-07-19T15:36:08 < dekar> source driver." 2016-07-19T15:36:54 < Laurenceb> heh I've seen this 2016-07-19T15:36:57 < Laurenceb> inb4 hatebus 2016-07-19T15:37:26 < Laurenceb> lots of lame i2c hardware doesnt have any filtering, you poor impedance matching causes weird glitches 2016-07-19T15:39:38 < Ultrasauce> i2c: not even once 2016-07-19T15:39:44 < Laurenceb> haha too true 2016-07-19T15:40:06 < Laurenceb> *s/you/if you have 2016-07-19T15:40:42 < Laurenceb> and thats pretty much inevitable with i2c 2016-07-19T15:40:54 < Laurenceb> its not designed to be impedance matched 2016-07-19T15:42:06 < dekar> Laurenceb, but I have the issue with JTAG, not I2C :/ 2016-07-19T15:42:16 < Laurenceb> oh ok 2016-07-19T15:42:52 < dekar> Laurenceb, it's the new Black Magic Probe hardware revision. 2016-07-19T15:51:34 < Laurenceb> new balloon record 2016-07-19T15:51:35 < Laurenceb> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=6&qm=1_day&f=X0 2016-07-19T15:58:06 < Laurenceb> 45km nice 2016-07-19T15:58:26 < Laurenceb> only a few km below absolute balloon altitude record (non amateur) 2016-07-19T16:04:09 < Laurenceb> damn http://8ch.net/n/res/465186.html 2016-07-19T16:04:12 < Laurenceb> no moar trollin 2016-07-19T16:05:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-19T16:07:29 < qyx> any recommended pci-e to serial bridge ic? 2016-07-19T16:08:02 < Steffanx> Dekar. Zyp and emeb both made their own very better copy theirs. 2016-07-19T16:10:02 < Steffanx> -very 2016-07-19T16:10:09 < Steffanx> Phones -_- 2016-07-19T16:10:29 < dekar> Steffanx, lol you don't understand my use-case. Doing SW development with Chinese team, need bunch of debuggers. Needed them yesterday, or rather last week. 2016-07-19T16:11:28 < Steffanx> Aah. No discoveries you can reflash? 2016-07-19T16:11:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T16:11:51 < Ultrasauce> or saw in half 2016-07-19T16:12:58 < Steffanx> Dekar. Working as production guy in china now? Or dont you no longer work for that sfp/fibre/whatever switch tech company? 2016-07-19T16:13:19 < Laurenceb> Doing SW development with Chinese team, need bunch of debuggers 2016-07-19T16:13:23 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-19T16:14:10 < dekar> Steffanx, still working for them, it's complicated. 2016-07-19T16:14:29 < Steffanx> Ok. I wont ask for details. 2016-07-19T16:16:48 < Steffanx> Ni hoa? 2016-07-19T16:16:54 < Steffanx> Hao 2016-07-19T16:17:55 < Steffanx> Rice* 2016-07-19T16:18:02 < Laurenceb> egg fried rice 2016-07-19T16:18:07 < Laurenceb> me love you long time 2016-07-19T16:18:43 < Laurenceb> chinese is probably the most awful sounding language 2016-07-19T16:19:02 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-19T16:19:03 < Laurenceb> hurts my ears more than dubstep and justin beaber 2016-07-19T16:19:18 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T16:19:57 < Steffanx> Yes, your british accent is sexy. 2016-07-19T16:19:57 < dekar> My Chinese sucks, but I usually still manage to get around. 2016-07-19T16:20:17 < Laurenceb> better than having a murican accent 2016-07-19T16:20:32 < Laurenceb> or being scottish 2016-07-19T16:22:04 < Steffanx> Lol. 2016-07-19T16:22:24 < englishman> fek of ya twat 2016-07-19T16:23:14 < dekar> At least Uber is cheap: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/IMG_20160703_171504.jpg 2016-07-19T16:23:18 < englishman> Laurenceb: 45km is a record? i thought they went much higher 2016-07-19T16:23:31 < Laurenceb> nope, usually 35km or so 2016-07-19T16:23:49 < englishman> oh yes its 100k ft 2016-07-19T16:23:54 < englishman> so this is like 147k ft 2016-07-19T16:23:55 < englishman> cool 2016-07-19T16:24:05 < dekar> That's like $4 for a half an hour ride. 2016-07-19T16:24:46 < englishman> in a car or tuktuk 2016-07-19T16:25:06 < Laurenceb> cheaper than a cheap hooker 2016-07-19T16:25:12 < Laurenceb> sounds good to me 2016-07-19T16:26:05 < dekar> Proper cars ofc. Rickshaws are much more expensive, because they see I'm a foreigner and thus try ripping me off. 2016-07-19T16:28:45 -!- Jak_o_Shadows1 [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-19T16:29:17 < englishman> i drove a geely once, and survived, barely 2016-07-19T16:30:25 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-19T16:31:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-19T16:35:21 < qyx> dongs: what was that thing you did with pcie? 2016-07-19T16:37:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T16:43:57 < dekar> Just moved to my room. The internet works surprisingly well today. I actually was refraining from IRC for a while, because I didn't want to spam all of you leaving and joining all the time. And I'm too lazy to look into bouncers and the like. 2016-07-19T16:46:07 < englishman> yeah decent clients will condense sequential join/quits into one line 2016-07-19T16:46:11 < englishman> or just hide 2016-07-19T16:52:18 < dekar> I actually got banned from some local Chaos Computer Club channel for that. Oh well, their loss. 2016-07-19T16:54:25 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-19T16:55:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-099-69.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T16:55:50 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T16:57:31 < Sync> hm 2016-07-19T16:57:46 < Sync> can cube tell me which cpus are pincompatible in my config? 2016-07-19T16:59:01 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T17:02:21 < dekar> Steffanx, what are you using to IRC on mobile? 2016-07-19T17:03:04 < dekar> Maybe some newfangled web-service would solve my problem. I mean phones should have the same issues. 2016-07-19T17:04:58 < Steffanx> Quassel dekar. 2016-07-19T17:05:24 < Steffanx> Not really optimized for mobile usage 2016-07-19T17:05:27 < Sync> just use irssi + mosh 2016-07-19T17:05:39 < Steffanx> It uses the default Qt object serializing 2016-07-19T17:06:51 < Steffanx> Dont like irssi Sync. 2016-07-19T17:09:22 < dekar> Sync, I was so disappointed when I tried mosh in China. Everyone was like "It's so awesome, even on satellite links!!11", but in reality it disconnects like any other TCP connection once the loss rises. 2016-07-19T17:09:23 < dekar> The local echo really isn't that helpful. 2016-07-19T17:09:26 < Steffanx> Irccloud would probably work for you, but semi-non free 2016-07-19T17:09:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-19T17:10:12 < Sync> no shit dekar 2016-07-19T17:10:16 < Sync> but it just comes back 2016-07-19T17:10:29 < Sync> Steffanx: then use weechat 2016-07-19T17:10:47 -!- trepidacious_ [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T17:11:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-19T17:11:12 -!- trepidacious_ is now known as trepidacious 2016-07-19T17:12:48 < dekar> Sync, it reconnects minutes later. I understand it can't magically communicate when there's no connection. But it simply doesn't improve China-scale problems by much. 2016-07-19T17:14:01 < Steffanx> I would feel so terrible crippled. 2016-07-19T17:15:38 < Sync> it improves shitty 3G problems very nicely 2016-07-19T17:18:32 < Sync> who the fuck put the RMII pins to where they are 2016-07-19T17:19:26 < dekar> Steffanx, I'll try Quassel. I have a bunch of servers running anyway. 2016-07-19T17:20:24 < Steffanx> Im not sure if it will handle te bad connection well 2016-07-19T17:20:24 < Steffanx> Probably not. 2016-07-19T17:23:23 < dekar> Ah okay. 2016-07-19T17:25:02 < Laurenceb> god I hate gui shit 2016-07-19T17:25:10 < Laurenceb> I'm going to have to admit defeat 2016-07-19T17:25:35 < Laurenceb> ok n00b question 2016-07-19T17:25:45 < Laurenceb> my Qt failproject has locked up, how do I debug it? 2016-07-19T17:25:57 < Sync> bt 2016-07-19T17:26:28 < Laurenceb> I'm running it with debugging enabled 2016-07-19T17:27:00 < Steffanx> Pause it? 2016-07-19T17:27:05 < Rickta59> gdb? 2016-07-19T17:27:14 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-19T17:27:16 < Laurenceb> { return boundingRect(QRect(x, y, w, h), flags, text, tabstops, tabarray); } 2016-07-19T17:27:19 < Laurenceb> shit makes no sense 2016-07-19T17:27:23 < Steffanx> Heh. 2016-07-19T17:27:36 < Laurenceb> maybe more memory corruption 2016-07-19T17:27:41 < Laurenceb> I'll ruyn valgrind on it 2016-07-19T17:27:46 < Rickta59> invalid window handle? 2016-07-19T17:27:54 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-19T17:28:31 < Laurenceb> see what valgrind says 2016-07-19T17:28:42 < Laurenceb> I think I hate guis more than i2c 2016-07-19T17:29:47 < Steffanx> Pebkac in this case. 2016-07-19T17:29:59 < Laurenceb> Can't create RFCOMM TTY: Address already in use 2016-07-19T17:30:06 < Laurenceb> the fun intensifies 2016-07-19T17:30:12 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-19T17:30:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:e997:df8:5f9d:d8a6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T17:30:58 < Laurenceb> bluetooth is almost as fail as i2c 2016-07-19T17:31:05 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T17:31:38 < Steffanx> Why you blame hw for your fails? 2016-07-19T17:31:46 < Laurenceb> fuck this shit time for some food 2016-07-19T17:31:54 < Steffanx> Frustration much. 2016-07-19T17:31:59 < Laurenceb> Can't release device: No such device 2016-07-19T17:32:04 < Laurenceb> fail singularity 2016-07-19T17:32:25 < Laurenceb> Can't create RFCOMM TTY: Address already in use 2016-07-19T17:32:28 < Laurenceb> lulling hard 2016-07-19T17:32:38 < Laurenceb> it exists and doesnt exist at the same time 2016-07-19T17:32:51 * Laurenceb rips BT card out of motherboard 2016-07-19T17:33:08 < Steffanx> Windows style: reboot 2016-07-19T17:39:33 < Laurenceb> someone has got to have a solution, I fight this every day but today its worse than ever 2016-07-19T17:40:39 < Laurenceb> I have to climb a mountain of fail just to experience the Qt fail 2016-07-19T17:41:26 < jon1012> use GTK ? 2016-07-19T17:41:45 < Sync> Laurenceb: it is the way it is 2016-07-19T17:41:48 < Sync> unfortunately 2016-07-19T17:42:06 < Laurenceb> I guess I could edit the config file to create a new address 2016-07-19T17:42:19 < Laurenceb> each time it fails lol 2016-07-19T18:04:04 < Steffanx> Is the main issue you crash your application and not close the stuff properly? 2016-07-19T18:04:55 < Steffanx> Also you do not start a new debugging session without killing running one? 2016-07-19T18:05:06 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-19T18:05:53 < Steffanx> You use Qt creator laurenceb? 2016-07-19T18:06:16 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-07-19T18:07:03 < Steffanx> And you are sure it always kills the running debugging session. I had cases where it sometimes failed to do that. 2016-07-19T18:07:11 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-19T18:07:17 < Laurenceb> yeah it is being weird 2016-07-19T18:07:22 < Laurenceb> kill to restart it 2016-07-19T18:07:43 < Laurenceb> the pause resume button is being glitchy 2016-07-19T18:10:35 < Laurenceb> aha fixed it thanks 2016-07-19T18:10:43 < Laurenceb> lul Qt failed again 2016-07-19T18:10:59 < Laurenceb> fail/0 2016-07-19T18:16:07 < Laurenceb> meanwhile I found the leftwing version of /pol/ 2016-07-19T18:16:09 < Laurenceb> https://np.reddit.com/r/leftwithsharpedge/ 2016-07-19T18:16:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T18:18:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-19T18:29:00 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-19T18:54:42 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-19T19:00:36 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T19:09:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T19:24:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@75-145-30-169-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T19:26:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-19T19:26:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T19:30:51 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-19T19:31:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.38.98] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T19:39:29 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T19:42:13 < englishman> lol 2016-07-19T19:42:19 < englishman> last lunix testbench computer i had 2016-07-19T19:42:27 < englishman> someone plugged in android phone, it opened 1000000 windows all at once 2016-07-19T19:42:33 < englishman> new lunix testbench computer today! 2016-07-19T19:42:37 < englishman> someone plugs in android phone 2016-07-19T19:42:42 < englishman> it freezes and dies, reboot needed 2016-07-19T19:42:45 < englishman> truly desktop ready 2016-07-19T19:43:05 < Ultrasauce> stop using a DE that sucks 2016-07-19T19:43:19 < englishman> im using whatever it came with 2016-07-19T19:45:38 * jadew received a pair of baofeng radios today - great value 2016-07-19T19:45:57 < jadew> the build quality is amazing and they costed me as much as regular walkie-talkies 2016-07-19T19:46:16 < englishman> baofungs are awesome 2016-07-19T19:46:17 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-19T19:46:33 < englishman> when i got mine i turned it on and there was someone being pulled over by cops 2 blocks over 2016-07-19T19:46:49 < Ultrasauce> the police here have switched to trunking digital radio :( 2016-07-19T19:47:08 < englishman> most have here too :( but traffic and metro cops did not at the time 2016-07-19T19:47:39 < zyp> jadew, which model? 2016-07-19T19:48:43 < jadew> zyp, the uv-5r 2016-07-19T19:48:51 < jadew> the one with the black face 2016-07-19T19:49:02 < Ultrasauce> i have one of those 2016-07-19T19:49:07 < Ultrasauce> it's crap but i'm happy with it 2016-07-19T19:49:29 < jadew> I can't believe the build quality for the price 2016-07-19T19:49:34 < jadew> $40 for two 2016-07-19T19:49:40 < jadew> that's crazy... low 2016-07-19T19:49:44 < Ultrasauce> yeah bang for buck is great 2016-07-19T19:54:53 < Sync> unfortunately the output filtering is not super seksi 2016-07-19T19:58:10 < Ultrasauce> rx sucks too 2016-07-19T20:02:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T20:02:55 < Tectu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1NM0U8Plg 2016-07-19T20:13:16 < zyp> thanks Tectu 2016-07-19T20:13:59 < Tectu> You're very welcome, Mr. zyp! 2016-07-19T20:14:23 < Tectu> now that you have fast interwebs you are ready for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L00VP88N8w 2016-07-19T20:15:20 < Steffanx> 60fps looks so weird. 2016-07-19T20:17:49 < Laurenceb> 1337 2016-07-19T20:17:50 < Laurenceb> omg 2016-07-19T20:18:03 < Laurenceb> oh its a troll 2016-07-19T20:18:03 < Ultrasauce> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__FbXCr8CoE 2016-07-19T20:18:04 < Laurenceb> lol 2016-07-19T20:19:31 < Steffanx> is that kakimir ? 2016-07-19T20:20:02 < Ultrasauce> yes 2016-07-19T20:20:09 < Steffanx> kakimir, you should rename to: kakimiri, as that's what all finnishers do. 2016-07-19T20:20:10 < Tectu> it's Fleck on speed :D 2016-07-19T20:20:41 < Steffanx> He aint finnish. 2016-07-19T20:21:02 < Tectu> neither is the dude in the video linked by Ultrasauce 2016-07-19T20:21:06 < Tectu> and who the fuck is Ultrasauce 2016-07-19T20:21:16 < Ultrasauce> who the fuck are you 2016-07-19T20:21:22 < Tectu> yes 2016-07-19T20:21:25 < Steffanx> Yeah, he renamed and noobified his english. 2016-07-19T20:21:43 < Tectu> are you serious? 2016-07-19T20:21:45 < Steffanx> so we no longer recognize him by his nick or his use of difficult english words 2016-07-19T20:22:03 < Tectu> please tell me that's not true 2016-07-19T20:22:20 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/0pLwLvZ.png 2016-07-19T20:23:05 < Tectu> Ultrasauce, can you confirm that you are him? 2016-07-19T20:23:09 < Ultrasauce> who 2016-07-19T20:23:29 < Tectu> Mr. Gargantua 2016-07-19T20:24:01 < Ultrasauce> i could 2016-07-19T20:24:42 < Tectu> o__o 2016-07-19T20:24:51 < Tectu> what happened man? did you have like... an accident? 2016-07-19T20:25:46 < Ultrasauce> are you referring to my disappearance or the fact that i'm not being magniloquent 2016-07-19T20:26:26 < Tectu> mainly the latter, but both in case of they are related to each other 2016-07-19T20:27:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T20:27:36 < Ultrasauce> just putting less effort into bullshitting on irc, which i guess is the explanation for both 2016-07-19T20:28:32 < Tectu> sounds like a sane thing to do 2016-07-19T20:28:36 < Tectu> and the re-naming? 2016-07-19T20:29:03 < Steffanx> Im proud of you, Ultrasauce 2016-07-19T20:29:18 < Ultrasauce> this is my work pc which in theory may be running in parallel to the machine that housed GargantuaSauce if i ever fucking fix the damn thing 2016-07-19T20:29:29 < Ultrasauce> i've actually been using this name longer tbh 2016-07-19T20:31:31 < Tectu> do you need somebody to talk? 2016-07-19T20:31:54 < Ultrasauce> is this an intervention 2016-07-19T20:32:12 < Tectu> listen man, we care about you 2016-07-19T20:32:22 < Tectu> at least some of us. dongs probably doesn't give a shit 2016-07-19T20:32:37 < Ultrasauce> i already caught up with him <3 2016-07-19T20:32:48 < Tectu> yay 2016-07-19T20:39:31 < Ultrasauce> so what are you innovating lately 2016-07-19T20:39:35 * Laurenceb is getting confused by Qt 2016-07-19T20:39:37 < Fleck> naah, not me 2016-07-19T20:39:55 < Laurenceb> I seem to have an issue with signals and slots 2016-07-19T20:40:25 < Laurenceb> line 78 https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/connectionmanager.h 2016-07-19T20:40:38 < Laurenceb> that datasample_t never seems to arrive 2016-07-19T20:41:04 < Ultrasauce> >array function parameter 2016-07-19T20:41:10 < Laurenceb> line 69 https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/graph.h 2016-07-19T20:41:28 < Laurenceb> Ultrasauce: that shoulsd just pass a pointer? 2016-07-19T20:41:39 < Laurenceb> or will the indexing stride be off? 2016-07-19T20:41:49 < Tectu> hi Fleck o/ 2016-07-19T20:41:55 < Fleck> hi 2016-07-19T20:42:07 < Steffanx> lo Fleck. 2016-07-19T20:42:28 < Fleck> hi 2016-07-19T20:42:42 < Tectu> Laurenceb, just use a container. 2016-07-19T20:42:53 < Steffanx> Still snowey roads on the webcam Fleck? 2016-07-19T20:43:00 < Ultrasauce> i just felt the need to bitch about style instead of addressing your question 2016-07-19T20:43:00 < Fleck> :D 2016-07-19T20:43:06 < Fleck> Steffanx: ofc not ;p 2016-07-19T20:43:10 < Tectu> Laurenceb, void setDataToGraph(const QVector& data); 2016-07-19T20:43:19 < jadew> Sync, didn't get to test the TX 2016-07-19T20:43:46 < Tectu> Laurenceb, actually, QVector of course. 2016-07-19T20:43:57 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-19T20:44:37 < Tectu> where is void enableHorses() ? 2016-07-19T20:45:09 < Fleck> Steffanx: http://fleck.rullz.lv/skatcam/viewcam.php?cam=4 2016-07-19T20:45:29 < Steffanx> so many people catching pokemon 2016-07-19T20:45:38 < Tectu> Laurenceb, also, mark your destructor as virtual 2016-07-19T20:45:50 < Laurenceb> c++ n00b 2016-07-19T20:45:56 < Laurenceb> how do I do that? 2016-07-19T20:46:10 < Tectu> virtual ~connectionManager(); 2016-07-19T20:46:25 < Laurenceb> ok simples 2016-07-19T20:46:33 < Tectu> in case of you are using C++11: virtual ~connectionManager() override = default; then you don't have to implement it (if it would be empty anyway) 2016-07-19T20:46:54 < Tectu> also, as your class inherits from QObject you have to disable copy-ctor and assignment operator. 2016-07-19T20:47:08 < Tectu> you can use Q_DISABLE_COPY for that 2016-07-19T20:47:21 < Tectu> so in your case, add this to the private: section: Q_DISABLE_COPY(connectionManager) 2016-07-19T20:47:38 < Tectu> (MUST BE in the private section, that's usually the first thing in there) 2016-07-19T20:48:19 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-19T20:48:30 < Tectu> same things in your Graph class and all the other classes you wrote 2016-07-19T20:48:35 < Tectu> for future references: are you using C++11? 2016-07-19T20:49:09 < Tectu> if you want to be able to compile this code w/o the MOC you should also use Q_SIGNALS instead of the 'signals' keyword 2016-07-19T20:49:32 < Tectu> but taht you can just ignore unless you know that you are writing code that should be usable outside of Qt too. 2016-07-19T20:49:52 < Tectu> also, what the fuck: QPushButton** channelenablebuttons; 2016-07-19T20:49:56 < Laurenceb> I see 2016-07-19T20:50:07 < Tectu> use containers whenever possible. Use QList if your type is the size of void*, use QVector otherwise 2016-07-19T20:50:18 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-19T20:50:20 < Tectu> unless you have specific needs for another container. but QList and QVector should cover 99.9% of your uses 2016-07-19T20:51:18 < Tectu> also, in your graph class you have a QTimer object member. that is discouraged. You should never ever have member objects of stuff that inherits from QObject 2016-07-19T20:51:29 < Tectu> all that shit is started in the Qt docs 2016-07-19T20:51:31 < Steffanx> will probably also solve 99% of his memory issues 2016-07-19T20:51:52 < Tectu> eg. it's fine to have QString as a member, but not QTimer. QString doesn't inherit from QObject, QTimer does. 2016-07-19T20:52:02 < Laurenceb> right 2016-07-19T20:52:23 < Laurenceb> ok so now I have 2016-07-19T20:52:28 < Laurenceb> addData(&(connection->latestdatasamples[0]),1); causing an error 2016-07-19T20:52:29 < jadew> Sync, the output looks good 2016-07-19T20:52:51 < Tectu> what on earth are you doing 2016-07-19T20:53:00 < Tectu> put your data in the container 2016-07-19T20:53:01 < Tectu> and pass the container 2016-07-19T20:53:07 < Tectu> sec. 2016-07-19T20:53:24 < carabia> I'm wondering why a lot of ILI9341 initialization code uses a "0xF2" command as "Gamma function disable", however the datasheet I found does not specify such command. Anyone worked with said controller? 2016-07-19T20:53:45 < jadew> Sync, second harmonic is at -47 dBc 2016-07-19T20:53:52 < jadew> when emitting on 446 MHz 2016-07-19T20:54:22 < Tectu> Laurenceb, http://paste.ugfx.org/show/5b366249f4 2016-07-19T20:54:31 < Tectu> Laurenceb, don't use raw arrays. 2016-07-19T20:54:37 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-19T20:55:41 < jadew> third harmonic at -45 dBc 2016-07-19T20:55:47 < jadew> doesn't seem bad at all 2016-07-19T20:56:22 < Tectu> carabia, the example init-code in the datasheet mentions it. 2016-07-19T20:56:43 < Tectu> carabia, personal advice: don't use ILI controllers if you don't have to. 2016-07-19T20:58:00 < carabia> Tectu, can you link the datasheet with the example code? Cause the one I'm having seemingly doesn't have any. 2016-07-19T20:58:42 < Tectu> carabia, no I can't. First of all because I have it on my harddrive and second of all because I would have to check NDAs on whether I am allowed to or not. 2016-07-19T20:58:48 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T20:58:49 < Laurenceb> emit setDataToGraph(QVectorlatestdatasamples,foundapacket+1); 2016-07-19T20:59:01 < Laurenceb> so can I send an array of datasample type like that? 2016-07-19T20:59:17 < carabia> Tectu, heh, okay. 2016-07-19T21:00:17 < Tectu> carabia, here's a screenshot of the gamma correction part: http://screencast.com/t/c3LwKAcDb 2016-07-19T21:00:25 < Tectu> Laurenceb, no you can't, you need to fill in the container first. 2016-07-19T21:00:39 < Laurenceb> oh 2016-07-19T21:00:43 < Tectu> Laurenceb, where do you get the array from? You should never ever have a raw array in first place. Always use containers. 2016-07-19T21:00:57 < carabia> Tectu, yeah, it's okay. I already found the datasheet off mikroe. 2016-07-19T21:01:00 < Laurenceb> shit why is c++ so overcomplex 2016-07-19T21:01:05 < Tectu> Laurenceb, and if you get a raw array from somewhere (which I highly doubt, fill it into a container at that very moment) 2016-07-19T21:01:12 < Tectu> carabia, great! 2016-07-19T21:01:31 < carabia> The 200+ page "proper" datasheet doesn't even mention it. Heh. 2016-07-19T21:01:52 < Tectu> carabia, really, try to avoid ILI display controllers if you can. they are a huge pain in the butt. 2016-07-19T21:01:55 < carabia> Eheh, neither does this apparently. Oh well. 2016-07-19T21:02:48 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/enabled-Powerful-durable-Ardino-compatible/dp/B01BFV7O1U/ 2016-07-19T21:03:17 < Laurenceb> is there a basic into to use of containers in c++ somewhere? 2016-07-19T21:03:25 < Laurenceb> I dunno what I'm doing any more lol 2016-07-19T21:03:59 < Tectu> Laurenceb, have you ever worked with anything other than C? some object oriented language. 2016-07-19T21:04:04 < kakimir> I wonder how much 200kw VFD would cost. Anybody has dones anything with that range of VFD? 2016-07-19T21:04:05 < Ultrasauce> there is a lot of qt documentation for you to read Laurenceb 2016-07-19T21:04:06 < Steffanx> Read the docs about containers 2016-07-19T21:04:22 < Ultrasauce> they have a lot of specific rules about object lifetimes and threading and so on 2016-07-19T21:04:25 < Tectu> Laurenceb, https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qvector.html 2016-07-19T21:04:27 < Laurenceb> basically like this? http://www.tutorialspoint.com/cplusplus/cpp_stl_tutorial.htm 2016-07-19T21:04:32 < Laurenceb> ah thanks 2016-07-19T21:05:07 < Sync> jadew: they have improved a bit then 2016-07-19T21:05:45 < Ultrasauce> and if you really want to hate your life go look at glib, they do all the same stuff with straight c 2016-07-19T21:05:58 < Tectu> lol ^ 2016-07-19T21:06:26 < Steffanx> better link this Tectu: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/containers.html 2016-07-19T21:06:28 < Laurenceb> yeah thats probably going to be even more overcomplex 2016-07-19T21:06:43 < Tectu> https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/containers.html 2016-07-19T21:08:09 < Tectu> Ultrasauce, looking at any GTK stuff is something you'd only do if you hate your life. 2016-07-19T21:08:41 < Ultrasauce> well i've been messing with gstreamer lately 2016-07-19T21:08:50 < Tectu> that explains your disappearance 2016-07-19T21:08:56 < Ultrasauce> actually it's quite enjoyable 2016-07-19T21:09:18 < Tectu> well, can't judge that. I have many messed with GUI shit. 2016-07-19T21:09:25 < Tectu> carabia, what are you up to? 2016-07-19T21:10:56 < carabia> I have the display working, using some init-code I found off displaytech. I was just tidying things up and I came across this. 2016-07-19T21:11:25 < Tectu> I'm gonna lean over the edge and link to http://ugfx.org 2016-07-19T21:11:25 < carabia> Otherwise the controller doesn't really seem that bad. 2016-07-19T21:12:05 < Tectu> if you just need it to work once then it will work, yes. except that it also lacks some nice features. also, the ili932x is a shit load worse 2016-07-19T21:12:08 < carabia> Yeah, I'm aware of it. This application doesn't really call for that though. 2016-07-19T21:12:29 < Tectu> and the ILI people are shitty people too. 2016-07-19T21:12:36 < Tectu> 2016-07-19T21:14:20 < Tectu> Laurenceb, is your shit working now? 2016-07-19T21:14:34 < Laurenceb> dunno still rewriting 2016-07-19T21:17:20 < Tectu> can't you get some horse to do it? 2016-07-19T21:18:25 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-19T21:19:47 < Laurenceb> void Graph::addData(const QVector&datasamp) is that passing by value or reference? 2016-07-19T21:20:13 < Tectu> by reference 2016-07-19T21:20:17 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-19T21:20:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-19T21:20:24 < Steffanx> lol Laurenceb. Why you think you put the & there? 2016-07-19T21:20:30 < Tectu> Steffanx, stop. 2016-07-19T21:20:38 < Laurenceb> so why not * ? 2016-07-19T21:20:41 * Laurenceb confuse 2016-07-19T21:20:46 < Tectu> Laurenceb, references are a concept of C++ 2016-07-19T21:20:47 < Steffanx> no Tectu. 2016-07-19T21:20:56 < Tectu> Laurenceb, think of them as pointers that can't be null 2016-07-19T21:21:03 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-19T21:21:06 < Tectu> Laurenceb, a reference is basically an alias for a symbol 2016-07-19T21:21:17 < Laurenceb> ok didnt realise they differed significantly from pointers 2016-07-19T21:21:44 < Tectu> well they do and they don't. They are a compile-time concept. 2016-07-19T21:22:17 < Tectu> a pointer is a thing that "exists" when the program is being executed. a reference doesn't exist. it's just an alias (a name) for another thing 2016-07-19T21:22:57 < Tectu> a rule of thumb for beginners is: Whenever you have to pass something to a function/method: do it by reference if you can (that is, if you don't need to be able to have a null-value) 2016-07-19T21:23:06 < Laurenceb> yeah, same in c 2016-07-19T21:23:14 < Tectu> wut? 2016-07-19T21:23:14 < Laurenceb> ok so would this be valid? 2016-07-19T21:23:15 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: please try hard to not use any raw pointers (*) in modern C++, you get almost nothing by that. If you can, use a reference, if you need a pointer, use unique_ptr and move semantics, if you need more, use shared_ptr. No explicit "new" and "delete" operators are appropriate anymore. 2016-07-19T21:23:15 < Laurenceb> double key=datasamp->last().sampletime; 2016-07-19T21:23:18 < Tectu> C doesn't have references. 2016-07-19T21:23:28 < Laurenceb> I meant pointers 2016-07-19T21:24:10 < Tectu> that seems to be a valid line. although you want to ensure that datasamp.isEmpty() returns false before executing it 2016-07-19T21:24:22 < Tectu> if the container is empty, calling last() will throw an exception -> your shit will crash. 2016-07-19T21:24:27 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-07-19T21:24:36 < Laurenceb> so how can I iterate through? 2016-07-19T21:24:38 < Steffanx> one should catch exceptions :P 2016-07-19T21:24:48 < Laurenceb> while(..something) 2016-07-19T21:25:06 < Tectu> Laurenceb, are you using C++11? 2016-07-19T21:25:07 < Laurenceb> oh just check for isEmpty? 2016-07-19T21:25:18 < Laurenceb> dunno I'm just using Qt creator 5.5 2016-07-19T21:25:26 < Tectu> QtCreator 5.5 doesn't exist 2016-07-19T21:25:27 < Laurenceb> from dumb downloadz page 2016-07-19T21:25:32 < englishman> we care about sauce 2016-07-19T21:25:40 < Tectu> most recent is 4.0.2, you are probably using Qt 5.5, but not QtCreator 5.5. 2016-07-19T21:25:43 < Laurenceb> oops 2016-07-19T21:25:47 < Laurenceb> Qt 5.5, yeah 2016-07-19T21:26:14 < Tectu> Laurenceb, Qt 5.5 doesn't do C++11 by default. Go to the .pro file, open it and add CONFIG += c++11 2016-07-19T21:26:37 < PaulFertser> Tectu: s/c++11/c++14/ ? 2016-07-19T21:26:40 < Laurenceb> got it ok 2016-07-19T21:26:45 < Tectu> PaulFertser, nah :p 2016-07-19T21:26:59 < Tectu> Laurenceb, now you can iterate like this: for (int i : listOfInts) { } 2016-07-19T21:27:00 < PaulFertser> wth not? 2016-07-19T21:27:15 < Laurenceb> huh 2016-07-19T21:27:25 < Steffanx> imho Laurenceb should read https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/containers.html it's partially there. Not the C++11 version, but foreach 2016-07-19T21:27:26 < Laurenceb> listOfInts <- where do I get that from? 2016-07-19T21:27:28 < Steffanx> while etc.. its all there 2016-07-19T21:27:35 < Laurenceb> ah thats better 2016-07-19T21:27:42 < Laurenceb> thanx 2016-07-19T21:27:43 < Tectu> Laurenceb, that is your container. eg. datasamp 2016-07-19T21:27:52 < Laurenceb> oh 2016-07-19T21:27:58 < Laurenceb> well I'll try foreach 2016-07-19T21:28:01 < Tectu> Laurenceb, I would recommend you to use that C++11 range for loop, really. 2016-07-19T21:28:14 < Tectu> that saves a shit load of typing and is almost not error-prone 2016-07-19T21:28:22 < Tectu> that manual for/while shit is error prone 2016-07-19T21:28:29 < Tectu> don't use foreach. 2016-07-19T21:28:38 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: I highly recommend http://stroustrup.com/Programming/ . It's not that hardcore Stroustrup book that's usually mentioned, it's a gentle enough textbook. Just get the last (second) edition. I am sure it'll help you in one way or the other. 2016-07-19T21:28:39 < Tectu> foreach is a thing that Qt (or was it even boost) added before C++11 was there 2016-07-19T21:28:48 < Tectu> now C++11 offers it as a native language feature, so use the for loop 2016-07-19T21:29:11 < Tectu> PaulFertser, I haven't enabled C++14 yet because I haven't finished reading stroustrup's book on it yet. 2016-07-19T21:29:28 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-07-19T21:29:42 < Laurenceb> I was planning to learn c++ at some point... 2016-07-19T21:29:56 < Laurenceb> unfortunately I'm in at the deep and and need to work fast 2016-07-19T21:29:57 < Tectu> was that before or after you planned to loose your virginity to a girl? 2016-07-19T21:30:14 < Steffanx> Laurenceb writes c++ application, boss sells application, Laurenceb learns c++. 2016-07-19T21:30:18 < Steffanx> Sounds about the right order :P 2016-07-19T21:30:43 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-19T21:31:06 < Laurenceb> I'm working freelance atm 2016-07-19T21:31:14 < Laurenceb> payment on delivery :S 2016-07-19T21:32:13 < Tectu> so stop horsing around and get your shit done 2016-07-19T21:33:34 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T21:34:01 < Steffanx> Sounds like a terrible deal to me Laurenceb. Payment for partial delivery ok, but final delivery..? 2016-07-19T21:34:44 < Laurenceb> it's divided into multiple "workpackages" 2016-07-19T21:34:54 < Tectu> oh no, I smell managers 2016-07-19T21:34:56 < Laurenceb> one of them is a GUI :-S 2016-07-19T21:35:26 < Steffanx> oh, ok. That sounds ok 2016-07-19T21:37:20 < Ultrasauce> desktop applications are so passe, shoulda used angularjs 2016-07-19T21:38:15 < Sync> chromeapp 2016-07-19T21:38:34 < Tectu> nah, fuck web apps, seriously 2016-07-19T21:38:35 < englishman> >stop horsing around 2016-07-19T21:38:36 < englishman> huhuhuhuhuhu 2016-07-19T21:38:39 < Steffanx> Better go C# with SciChart for fancy 3d charting. 2016-07-19T21:39:06 < Tectu> Steffanx, Qt does 3D charting too https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qt3d-examples.html 2016-07-19T21:39:38 < Tectu> actually this: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtdatavisualization-index.html 2016-07-19T21:39:58 < Tectu> fancy much: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtdatavisualization-custominput-example.html 2016-07-19T21:41:29 < Ultrasauce> more like mathplotlib 2016-07-19T21:43:30 < Laurenceb> bash script and gnuplot 2016-07-19T21:43:36 < Laurenceb> job done 2016-07-19T21:44:17 < Tectu> ah, that reminds me that I have to call methlab people. Can't activate license on new computer 2016-07-19T21:44:21 < Tectu> fuck computer-locked software 2016-07-19T21:44:22 < Tectu> fucking shit. 2016-07-19T21:46:13 < Ultrasauce> drm is stealing your freeeeeedom 2016-07-19T21:46:14 < Sync> such a joke 2016-07-19T21:46:29 < Ultrasauce> http://xn--d-bga.su/nps.jpg 2016-07-19T21:49:20 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-19T21:50:31 < Tectu> also, there's now a QWidget which is a virtual uGFX touchscreen 2016-07-19T21:51:20 < Steffanx> Spam. 2016-07-19T21:51:35 < Laurenceb> QMidget 2016-07-19T21:51:37 < BrainDamage> is it upstream or third party? 2016-07-19T21:51:58 < Tectu> 3rdparty 2016-07-19T21:52:03 < Steffanx> ugfx party? 2016-07-19T21:52:09 < Tectu> lemon. 2016-07-19T21:52:19 < Steffanx> Ok ill koin. 2016-07-19T21:52:21 < Steffanx> join 2016-07-19T21:57:11 < Thorn> https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/q3tzfoxhmzqxo6ndc5ke.JPG 2016-07-19T22:05:14 < Ultrasauce> have you guys seen this fine innovation yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNVrR-UcQc 2016-07-19T22:06:29 < Ultrasauce> my favourite part is when he solders a nut 2016-07-19T22:16:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@75-145-30-169-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-19T22:20:27 < jon1012> shouldn't the machine be in an harder material than what it intends to mill ? 2016-07-19T22:20:53 < Ultrasauce> rigidity is for chumps 2016-07-19T22:21:12 < Ultrasauce> as is precise alignment 2016-07-19T22:24:51 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-19T22:26:38 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t9kol13gmyqia.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T22:30:55 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T22:33:30 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-19T22:42:49 < Tectu> the best part is that it's being sold as an arduino SHIELD 2016-07-19T22:42:52 < Tectu> a CNC mill shield 2016-07-19T22:42:58 < Tectu> that really makes it kickstarter worthy 2016-07-19T22:47:00 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-07-19T22:48:36 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-19T23:01:58 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-19T23:02:38 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:03:58 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:08:58 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-19T23:13:37 < Sync> Ultrasauce: well, if all you have is that shitty chinese iron you can't properly heat it 2016-07-19T23:13:43 < Sync> ~heat it properly 2016-07-19T23:13:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:3c66:b5d5:438e:7012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:14:05 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2GcdpJiNGfKOTNCZE95enFWbm8&usp=sharing vacuum needs just the cart with wheels to be completes 2016-07-19T23:14:06 < Tectu> Sync, that's why they offer the CNC kit with a proper weller iron ;) 2016-07-19T23:14:33 < kakimir> maybe some pot for excess resin 2016-07-19T23:16:16 < kakimir> oil is boiling - do not use w/ detergent modern car engine oil in vacuum bumb 2016-07-19T23:16:45 < kakimir> if you wish high vacuums 2016-07-19T23:17:26 < Steffanx> what are you cooking and why kakimir? 2016-07-19T23:17:52 < kakimir> meth 2016-07-19T23:17:58 < kakimir> money 2016-07-19T23:18:09 < Steffanx> and now seriously. 2016-07-19T23:18:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:e997:df8:5f9d:d8a6] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-19T23:18:19 < kakimir> composites 2016-07-19T23:18:26 < kakimir> and plexiglass 2016-07-19T23:19:25 < Sync> use a regular compressor oil 2016-07-19T23:19:30 < Sync> vg68 or vg100 2016-07-19T23:19:35 < kakimir> it's good? 2016-07-19T23:20:07 < Sync> no, it is best to use a real vacuum pump oil 2016-07-19T23:20:19 < Sync> but my single stage pumps all run on compressor oil 2016-07-19T23:20:49 < kakimir> thanks for the tip 2016-07-19T23:21:13 < Tectu> so Sync doesn't just know RF shit? 2016-07-19T23:21:36 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-19T23:21:52 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:22:05 < kakimir> aren't quite major part of people here some sort of multipersons without limit in skills 2016-07-19T23:22:47 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:22:58 < Ultrasauce> 10x engineers? :V 2016-07-19T23:23:33 < Sync> but I have mostly gone to dry scroll pumps 2016-07-19T23:23:40 < Sync> finally no hydrocarbons in muh chambers 2016-07-19T23:24:23 < Tectu> kakimir, yes, but for some reason I always have trouble grasping the fact that somebody who knows RF wizard magic is capable of having free brain capacity for anything else. 2016-07-19T23:24:36 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:24:57 < Sync> well, with rf design there is also the mechanical side 2016-07-19T23:25:39 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-19T23:25:42 < Sync> and then usually you have to have a decent grasp of control theory 2016-07-19T23:26:08 < Tectu> for some reason the words "Nyquist Diagram" just flashed through my brain :S 2016-07-19T23:27:05 < Sync> "bode plot" 2016-07-19T23:27:21 < Sync> "root locus" 2016-07-19T23:27:24 < Sync> inb4 triggered 2016-07-19T23:27:27 < Tectu> well those never were a problem (for me), but nyquist... 2016-07-19T23:27:41 < Tectu> also had some other shit, evades root or something? is that a thing? 2016-07-19T23:27:44 < Tectu> evans root? 2016-07-19T23:28:02 * Ultrasauce banishes Tectu to the s domain 2016-07-19T23:28:02 < Tectu> ah, that's actually root locus that you mentioned 2016-07-19T23:28:25 < Tectu> I was completely lost on the exercise regarding the root locus shit on the exam a couple of weeks ago 2016-07-19T23:28:59 < Sync> it took me a while to get it 2016-07-19T23:29:10 < Sync> luckily it is straight forward constructing one 2016-07-19T23:29:52 < Tectu> I'll happily leave that kind of stuff to people like you 2016-07-19T23:30:01 < Tectu> I also have two friends who are totally into that shit 2016-07-19T23:30:13 < Tectu> both of them are crappy programmers tho 2016-07-19T23:31:01 < Sync> so am I :/ 2016-07-19T23:31:10 < Tectu> I see a pattern emerging 2016-07-19T23:31:15 < Ultrasauce> too much minmaxing 2016-07-19T23:31:22 < Sync> I always say, I can make code work, but not code 2016-07-19T23:31:44 < Tectu> at least you are honest! We have a few people in our class(es) who can't admit that they are crappy programmers 2016-07-19T23:32:19 < Tectu> also, no shame in that. can't be good at everything. As I said, I suck at that other stuff 2016-07-19T23:32:27 < Tectu> and I suck at many other things 2016-07-19T23:33:47 < Sync> currently I need to get that thing running: http://sync-hv.de/autowagens/cao/engine1.jpg (attn, borderline ##stm32 content) 2016-07-19T23:33:50 < aandrew> solder muh nut 2016-07-19T23:33:59 < kakimir> Tectu: maybe he is 100years old so he have mastered all the skills 2016-07-19T23:34:31 < Ecco> Hi Tectu :) 2016-07-19T23:34:46 < Steffanx> Did the middle finger help much Sync? 2016-07-19T23:34:55 < Steffanx> Does it run now? 2016-07-19T23:35:28 < Tectu> hey Ecco, how are you these days? 2016-07-19T23:35:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.38.98] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-19T23:35:39 < Tectu> quit being sarcastic, Steffanx 2016-07-19T23:35:44 < Ecco> Great :) Just passing by though, I'll leave in a minute :) 2016-07-19T23:36:00 < Tectu> aw :( 2016-07-19T23:36:03 < Tectu> take care and stuff o/ 2016-07-19T23:36:08 < Ecco> thanks :) 2016-07-19T23:36:13 < Tectu> did you get your scope? 2016-07-19T23:36:14 < Steffanx> uhm, no Tectu. 2016-07-19T23:36:18 < Ecco> yeah 2016-07-19T23:36:28 < Ecco> Rigol 1074Z 2016-07-19T23:36:44 < Ecco> Well 1054Z sorry 2016-07-19T23:36:49 < Tectu> nice! 2016-07-19T23:36:57 < Ecco> Yeah it's a nice device 2016-07-19T23:37:02 < Ecco> A bit noisy 2016-07-19T23:37:08 < Ecco> But appart from that, very nice 2016-07-19T23:37:23 < Tectu> I'm sure it will be a helpful tool ;) 2016-07-19T23:37:23 < Ecco> There's just one thing which bugs me 2016-07-19T23:37:31 < Ecco> The screen is nice and wide 2016-07-19T23:37:43 < Ecco> *but* you apprently cannot dismiss the menus 2016-07-19T23:37:55 < Ecco> so in practice it's not as wide as you could think it would be 2016-07-19T23:37:55 < Tectu> ah that 2016-07-19T23:37:57 < Steffanx> Noisy as in the fan is noisy or the signal is noisy, Ecco? 2016-07-19T23:38:02 < Tectu> yes, I have heard other people complaining about that Ecco 2016-07-19T23:38:10 < Ecco> Steffanx: fan. Indeed I should have been clearer. 2016-07-19T23:38:18 < Ecco> But it's not that big a deal though 2016-07-19T23:38:23 < Steffanx> That is a problem of all rigols. 2016-07-19T23:38:26 < Ecco> So far I'm very happy 2016-07-19T23:38:39 < Steffanx> (replaced mine with a quieter fan) 2016-07-19T23:38:41 < Tectu> this way you have an excuse if you decide to ignore your wife 2016-07-19T23:38:41 < Ecco> Given how much I paid for it (€300) 2016-07-19T23:38:45 < Ecco> :-D 2016-07-19T23:38:46 < Tectu> "can't hear you honey" 2016-07-19T23:39:04 < Steffanx> /honey/mon/ 2016-07-19T23:39:08 < Steffanx> *m 2016-07-19T23:39:25 < Tectu> Ecco does honey, not mom 2016-07-19T23:40:05 < Steffanx> oh, Ecco discovered ##stm32 after he found a gf/wife 2016-07-19T23:40:06 < Ecco> don't take that out of context :-D 2016-07-19T23:41:43 < Steffanx> lol. 2016-07-19T23:42:45 < Tectu> http://swissfortknox.ch/infografik.html 2016-07-19T23:42:49 < Tectu> http://swissfortknox.ch/sicherheit.html 2016-07-19T23:42:58 < Tectu> you can do english topright 2016-07-19T23:43:13 < Ecco> I've read about this before 2016-07-19T23:43:13 < Steffanx> Tectu dies, but his data survived. 2016-07-19T23:43:20 < Steffanx> \o/ 2016-07-19T23:43:23 < Ecco> that's the underground datacenter in the Swiss alps, right? 2016-07-19T23:43:33 < Tectu> ah shit, didn't want to post that here, sorry 2016-07-19T23:43:36 < Tectu> Ecco, yes 2016-07-19T23:43:43 < Tectu> there are two 2016-07-19T23:43:47 < Tectu> they have their own airport 2016-07-19T23:43:58 < Ecco> I really wonder who are their customers 2016-07-19T23:44:03 < Tectu> and secured by military forces and shit 2016-07-19T23:44:08 < Sync> yes it did Steffanx 2016-07-19T23:44:09 < Tectu> well I for one 2016-07-19T23:44:11 < Ecco> But is that real? 2016-07-19T23:44:13 < Ecco> Really? 2016-07-19T23:44:15 < Tectu> Ecco, yes 2016-07-19T23:44:28 < Tectu> Ecco, I'm currently trying to get clearance to visit it. 2016-07-19T23:44:32 < Tectu> but it's hard 2016-07-19T23:44:36 < Ecco> Why??? 2016-07-19T23:44:51 < Ecco> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEZWYXPvmS8 2016-07-19T23:44:58 < Tectu> nuke-save military guarded datacenter and you want to ask why I want to visit it? 2016-07-19T23:45:08 < Steffanx> They are screening his internet history. They found his fav. pron collection and ##stm32 2016-07-19T23:45:11 < Ecco> no, why you want to be a customer 2016-07-19T23:45:54 < Ecco> They seem pretty happy about their "Internet with GB speed" 2016-07-19T23:46:16 < Tectu> I have to protect uGFX 2016-07-19T23:46:18 < Tectu> must be save. 2016-07-19T23:46:20 < Ecco> Seriously it seems like it's out of a bad James Bond movie 2016-07-19T23:46:21 < Tectu> nobody can have it. 2016-07-19T23:47:11 < Ecco> They don't even list their prices, do they? 2016-07-19T23:47:19 < Tectu> nah, it's exclusive 2016-07-19T23:47:28 < Ecco> that cannot be good 2016-07-19T23:47:41 < Ecco> gotta go 2016-07-19T23:47:43 < Ecco> see ya 2016-07-19T23:47:55 < Tectu> cu man o/ 2016-07-19T23:51:34 < Tectu> also, they don't only do data proection 2016-07-19T23:51:48 < Tectu> guy told me that they also have oldtimers and shit in their bunkers 2016-07-19T23:52:10 < Tectu> apparently one guy even has a stamp collection in one of their lockers 2016-07-19T23:52:19 < Sync> haha 2016-07-19T23:57:32 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] --- Day changed Wed Jul 20 2016 2016-07-20T00:01:04 < Tectu> Laurenceb, how is shit going? 2016-07-20T00:04:44 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icxbbiyyihikbpao] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T00:22:16 < karlp> Tectu: s/save/safe/g 2016-07-20T00:26:22 < Tectu> thank you karlp 2016-07-20T00:30:38 < englishman> Sync: is that your stm32 engine controller 2016-07-20T00:31:34 < Sync> yes 2016-07-20T00:33:28 < englishman> cool, good luck 2016-07-20T00:34:18 < Tectu> is this ECU stuff? 2016-07-20T00:34:20 < Tectu> that* 2016-07-20T00:34:44 < Sync> yes 2016-07-20T00:35:04 < Sync> well englishman, if it doesn't work it'll get the pectel 2016-07-20T00:35:14 < englishman> heh 2016-07-20T00:36:37 < Sync> but eh, I only need alphaN 2016-07-20T00:36:50 < Sync> with the next engine I'll get srs 2016-07-20T00:36:57 < englishman> sequential? 2016-07-20T00:37:04 < Sync> yes ofc 2016-07-20T00:37:22 < Sync> no batch injection/ign bullshit 2016-07-20T00:37:34 < englishman> alpha-n and some extra sensors is fine no? 2016-07-20T00:37:54 < Sync> I have a proper absolute feedback for the crankangle so adding sequential is no issue 2016-07-20T00:38:20 < Sync> well, the engine comes with a knock sensor and MAF 2016-07-20T00:38:28 < Sync> but I'm not sure if I want MAF or MAP 2016-07-20T00:38:32 < Sync> or nothing 2016-07-20T00:38:32 < Tectu> so that's actually serious shit you're doing then, not just horsing around? 2016-07-20T00:39:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T00:39:19 < Sync> I'm hoersing around, but with srs shit 2016-07-20T00:40:02 < Laurenceb__> oh god the trolling never ends 2016-07-20T00:40:08 < Sync> englishman: thinking about throwing my sadev setup in there 2016-07-20T00:40:32 < englishman> oh, its your car 2016-07-20T00:41:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-20T00:41:20 < Rob235> got the leds working: https://youtu.be/Clep3qxC0co 2016-07-20T00:41:25 < Laurenceb__> its red hot im sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13HM-bmKW2U 2016-07-20T00:42:11 < Sync> yes englishman 2016-07-20T00:42:16 < Sync> muh shitty DSM 2016-07-20T00:43:28 < englishman> didnt know they sent those to eu 2016-07-20T00:44:34 < Sync> dsms? yeah they did 2016-07-20T00:44:48 < BrainDamage> Sync: do you know why they don't use electrovalves in place of the mechanical ones in ICE? 2016-07-20T00:45:00 < Sync> where? 2016-07-20T00:45:03 < englishman> really high end cars like koenigsegg, f1 do 2016-07-20T00:45:04 < BrainDamage> in general 2016-07-20T00:45:10 < BrainDamage> oh 2016-07-20T00:45:14 < Sync> not really 2016-07-20T00:45:20 < Sync> koenigsegg has a proto working 2016-07-20T00:45:27 < Sync> so did everybody else in the 80/90s 2016-07-20T00:45:29 < englishman> orly 2016-07-20T00:45:47 < Sync> almost every manufacturer looked into that 2016-07-20T00:46:03 < Sync> BrainDamage: well, I think cost, mostly 2016-07-20T00:46:16 < Sync> and earlier shitty control + reliablity issues 2016-07-20T00:46:18 < BrainDamage> i've read all sort of bizzare shafts mechanisms to adjust timings with regime, when electronic seems simplest 2016-07-20T00:46:29 < Sync> I think F1 still runs pneumatic springs + cams 2016-07-20T00:46:35 < englishman> rly! 2016-07-20T00:47:18 < Laurenceb__> valves need some pretty crazy peak forces 2016-07-20T00:47:25 < Laurenceb__> its easy to do that mechanically 2016-07-20T00:47:31 < Laurenceb__> solenoids get v heavy 2016-07-20T00:47:51 < Sync> but no friction + inf. variable timing 2016-07-20T00:47:56 < BrainDamage> electrohydraulic then? run a pump by the engine 2016-07-20T00:48:20 < Sync> protip: you already have a pump 2016-07-20T00:48:29 < BrainDamage> right 2016-07-20T00:48:38 < Sync> that is what bmw, nissan and the like do 2016-07-20T00:48:52 < Sync> VTEC bruhhh 2016-07-20T00:49:14 < englishman> does ducati still have the 'up-cam' 2016-07-20T00:49:21 < Sync> desmodromic 2016-07-20T00:49:23 < Sync> I think so 2016-07-20T00:49:24 < englishman> yea 2016-07-20T00:49:48 < Sync> complete cokehead design nowadays :D 2016-07-20T00:49:57 < Sync> then valvesprings work 2016-07-20T00:50:03 < Tectu> is that just fancy or does that desmodromic stuff actually help? 2016-07-20T00:50:12 < Laurenceb__> VTEC isnt hydraulic is it? 2016-07-20T00:50:21 < englishman> maybe in 80s it helped with valve float 2016-07-20T00:50:25 < Sync> it did when valves were shitty 2016-07-20T00:50:32 < Sync> more like in the 30s 2016-07-20T00:50:37 < Sync> Laurenceb__: it is hydraulig 2016-07-20T00:50:38 < englishman> ha 2016-07-20T00:50:51 < Tectu> so why are they still doing it today? fancyness? 2016-07-20T00:50:55 < Sync> it inflates one of the hydro tappets 2016-07-20T00:50:56 < Tectu> to feed the fanboys? 2016-07-20T00:51:00 < Sync> ^ 2016-07-20T00:51:00 < Laurenceb__> wikipedia says dual cams? 2016-07-20T00:51:08 < englishman> dual cam yes 2016-07-20T00:51:24 < Sync> there are two lobe profiles 2016-07-20T00:51:28 < Laurenceb__> FR4 machine shield looks nice 2016-07-20T00:51:33 < Sync> and you can switch between them 2016-07-20T00:52:11 < Sync> englishman: it is a complete joke nowadays 2016-07-20T00:52:12 < Tectu> err, but wait... valves are still controlled by cams these days, right? Somebody mentioned solenoids... 2016-07-20T00:52:17 < englishman> here trolenceb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stJM9EvZRgQ 2016-07-20T00:52:29 < Sync> the motoGP bikes needed like 7h to adjust the valve lash 2016-07-20T00:52:45 < Sync> Tectu: yes they are 2016-07-20T00:52:50 < BrainDamage> i mentioned solenoids because i tought it'd be the perfect "fix" for variable timing 2016-07-20T00:52:59 < BrainDamage> and i was wondering why nobody is doing it 2016-07-20T00:53:04 < Tectu> ah 2016-07-20T00:53:19 < Sync> reasons. 2016-07-20T00:53:21 < Sync> :D 2016-07-20T00:53:26 < englishman> pretty sure you can have a masters/phd in valvetrain mechanics 2016-07-20T00:53:51 < Sync> and still not understand it 10% 2016-07-20T00:53:51 < Sync> yeah 2016-07-20T00:53:54 < englishman> yea 2016-07-20T00:53:59 < Sync> it is a complex issue 2016-07-20T00:54:01 < Tectu> was that 10% intentional? 2016-07-20T00:54:06 < Laurenceb__> BrainDamage: you need high peak force and large distance 2016-07-20T00:54:08 < Sync> yes Tectu 2016-07-20T00:54:11 < englishman> that doesnt even get into the airflow stuff 2016-07-20T00:54:12 < Laurenceb__> hard to do with solenoids 2016-07-20T00:54:28 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb__: got it the first time, i was just repeating my question since tectu was confused 2016-07-20T00:54:45 < Laurenceb__> heh ok 2016-07-20T00:54:51 < Tectu> Sync, tell me about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zE__J0YIU is that any good for cars and shit? 2016-07-20T00:55:05 < Sync> pls. 2016-07-20T00:55:25 < BrainDamage> there's plenty of CVTs around 2016-07-20T00:55:26 < Sync> it is a regular CVT 2016-07-20T00:55:37 < Sync> the problem is, the efficiency sucks balls 2016-07-20T00:55:43 < BrainDamage> it's just not that good if you care about efficiency 2016-07-20T00:56:09 < BrainDamage> the energy wasted in the transmission exceeds the energy you save by a more accurate energy transfer 2016-07-20T00:56:28 < BrainDamage> there's few cars that actually do have CVTs, avoid them 2016-07-20T00:56:30 < Tectu> Sync, are you referring to the efficiency of the D-Drive or regular CVTs? 2016-07-20T00:56:39 < Sync> all of them 2016-07-20T00:56:46 < Tectu> ah 2016-07-20T00:56:48 < Tectu> also thanks @ BrainDamage 2016-07-20T00:57:05 < Sync> well, the d drive is a neat idea 2016-07-20T00:57:17 < Sync> but excentric things are expensive to make and hard to balance 2016-07-20T00:57:50 < Tectu> interesting 2016-07-20T00:57:51 < Ultrasauce> nice ui Rob235 2016-07-20T00:58:00 < Sync> also not sure how much force you need to actually actuate it 2016-07-20T00:58:01 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-20T00:58:03 < Ultrasauce> i can see why that might have been slow using mathplotlib 8) 2016-07-20T00:58:04 < Tectu> hard to balance as in actually hard or as in expensive? 2016-07-20T00:58:09 < Sync> both 2016-07-20T00:58:09 < Rob235> heh 2016-07-20T00:58:42 < Laurenceb__> the d drive... dean drive? 2016-07-20T00:58:49 < Tectu> but... why is it hard? Shouldn't the conventional balancing methods/machines work with that? 2016-07-20T00:58:56 < Tectu> you spin it, you balance it, you sell it. 2016-07-20T00:59:20 < Rob235> the star in the top left represents the leds on the discovery board, which right now represents the calibration status of the bno055 2016-07-20T00:59:22 < Sync> yes but you need a fuckton of mass in the right space 2016-07-20T00:59:33 < Sync> and precision balancing is expensive 2016-07-20T00:59:36 < BrainDamage> man here there's an used rx7 with 70k km for 5k€, if the engine is in decent state it'd be the perfect excuse to drive like an asshole 2016-07-20T00:59:41 < Sync> as you should know, being a swiss person 2016-07-20T00:59:43 < BrainDamage> "i need to drive like this to maintain the engine in efficiency" 2016-07-20T00:59:57 < Sync> and idk 2016-07-20T01:00:09 < Sync> people are optimizing the last .1% in automatics 2016-07-20T01:00:15 < Sync> I don't think it has a chance 2016-07-20T01:00:20 < Tectu> I see, I see 2016-07-20T01:00:23 < Tectu> thanks for the insights 2016-07-20T01:00:32 < Laurenceb__> heh sounds like my rockoon problem 2016-07-20T01:00:41 < Ultrasauce> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkJYnxFYJQ 2016-07-20T01:00:47 < Sync> BrainDamage: I drove I think a honda jazz with the CVT 2016-07-20T01:00:49 < Sync> what a POS. 2016-07-20T01:00:51 < Sync> srs. 2016-07-20T01:01:12 < Laurenceb__> lots of balancing issues and headaches :-/ 2016-07-20T01:01:20 < Laurenceb__> lulwut did I just read http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/19/correction_hangmans_noose_hyperloop_lawsuit/ 2016-07-20T01:02:10 < Tectu> stop wasting time and get your shit done, Mr. Laurenceb 2016-07-20T01:03:21 < Tectu> cu folks o/ 2016-07-20T01:03:27 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-20T01:13:33 < Laurenceb__> ok mr Tectu 2016-07-20T01:15:18 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T01:15:38 < Sync> englishman: do you know why a lot of the 90s high performance racing engines used so long injector/valve distances? 2016-07-20T01:16:31 < englishman> like, putting the injector far up in the intake? 2016-07-20T01:17:15 < Sync> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WHjs-pcyg8Q/maxresdefault.jpg 2016-07-20T01:17:17 < Sync> like that 2016-07-20T01:17:18 < Sync> yeah 2016-07-20T01:17:30 < englishman> oh! 2016-07-20T01:17:43 < englishman> i think that was a mechanical reason 2016-07-20T01:17:55 < englishman> actualyl i only have speculation 2016-07-20T01:18:01 < englishman> but yeah i remember seeing that a lot lol 2016-07-20T01:18:33 < Sync> ??? you can't tell me that a multi million $ effort puts the injectors there because it was convenient ;) 2016-07-20T01:18:48 < Sync> every other race engine had them there as well 2016-07-20T01:19:11 < englishman> it does make sense from atomization point of view 2016-07-20T01:19:36 < Sync> yeah but you get a super long injection event to combustion time 2016-07-20T01:19:49 < Sync> and in the mean time things might have changed 2016-07-20T01:20:55 < Sync> http://www.italian.sakura.ne.jp/bad_toys/cosworth/image/kf_20opel_20dtm_206.jpg 2016-07-20T01:20:58 < Sync> another example 2016-07-20T01:23:20 < Sync> http://www.italian.sakura.ne.jp/bad_toys/cosworth/image/cosworth_xh_lmp1_sportscar_engine.jpg that is actually more like it 2016-07-20T01:23:24 < Sync> but still not DI 2016-07-20T01:25:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-20T01:26:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T01:30:12 < englishman> is it really that far away from the valve tho 2016-07-20T01:30:21 < englishman> 6"? 2016-07-20T01:30:29 < Sync> yes 2016-07-20T01:30:31 < englishman> maybe 8? 2016-07-20T01:30:33 < englishman> thats not that far 2016-07-20T01:30:35 < Sync> it is not that bad 2016-07-20T01:30:40 < englishman> TBI crap is like 1m away 2016-07-20T01:30:47 < Sync> but further than directly firing into the valve 2016-07-20T01:30:56 < Sync> well pff, TBI is shit, so :P 2016-07-20T01:30:56 < englishman> yeah, but then it can pool on the valve 2016-07-20T01:31:03 < Sync> true 2016-07-20T01:31:23 < Sync> although I heard that helps with emissions if the path is short 2016-07-20T01:31:24 < englishman> and it accelerates after atomization 2016-07-20T01:31:26 < englishman> anyway, speculation 2016-07-20T01:31:46 < englishman> through what effect? 2016-07-20T01:32:40 < Sync> I'd have to look through the slides again 2016-07-20T01:33:26 < Sync> but I think the idea was you have higher velocities when injecting 2016-07-20T01:33:33 < Sync> thus aiding mixture 2016-07-20T01:33:42 < Sync> but that seems strange as as far as possible will mix it best 2016-07-20T01:34:10 < englishman> theres also the pooling on the intake runners 2016-07-20T01:34:14 < Sync> and I mean it pools like a mofo on those throttle bodies 2016-07-20T01:34:23 < Sync> at part throttle 2016-07-20T01:34:34 < englishman> wouldnt those be slide throttles 2016-07-20T01:34:41 < englishman> wherever the throttles are in that thing... 2016-07-20T01:34:50 < Sync> regular flaps 2016-07-20T01:34:56 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-20T01:35:18 < Sync> https://youtu.be/eeKuWF1FbyE 2016-07-20T01:37:04 < englishman> isnt that different, in the cosworth those are upstream 2016-07-20T01:37:34 < englishman> ...well the cosworth is also turbo 2016-07-20T01:37:54 < englishman> lol you can see all the fuel on those runners 2016-07-20T01:37:56 < englishman> at idle 2016-07-20T01:41:41 < englishman> rebuilt carbs on my 1977 suzuki over the weekend, put them in an ultrasonic cleaner https://i.sli.mg/GCqwci.jpg 2016-07-20T01:52:39 < Sync> nice 2016-07-20T01:54:39 < dongs> qyx: a few things, lane switcher, usb 2016-07-20T01:54:41 < dongs> why? 2016-07-20T02:07:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T02:12:24 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icxbbiyyihikbpao] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-20T02:15:10 < dongs> why the fuck would DJ repairman need keil 2016-07-20T02:18:41 < dongs> both at once? 2016-07-20T02:18:47 < dongs> i'm gonna guess like laurenceb 2016-07-20T02:18:50 < dongs> when he says "bye faggots" 2016-07-20T02:18:53 < dongs> then yanks his laptop off the desk 2016-07-20T02:19:00 < dongs> together with ethernet cable connected 2016-07-20T02:19:06 < dongs> and rips the jack right out of the socket 2016-07-20T02:19:14 < dongs> then ping timeouts. 2016-07-20T02:43:02 < karlp> BrainDamage: I thought cvt was "the future" are they really all to be avoided? 2016-07-20T02:49:16 < Laurenceb__> rule 34 strikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrophilia 2016-07-20T02:49:58 < BrainDamage> karlp: the future one day, currently, not so much 2016-07-20T02:50:27 < BrainDamage> altought personally i'd also be biased i like the flexibility of a manual transmission 2016-07-20T02:53:01 < Laurenceb__> attn kakimir: http://i.imgur.com/IDnoT5K.png 2016-07-20T02:59:36 < Sync> karlp: currently, yes 2016-07-20T03:02:47 < BrainDamage> crt: please stop trying so hard, it ends up with the opposite effect 2016-07-20T03:03:19 < BrainDamage> hello 2016-07-20T03:08:58 < Laurenceb__> crt: better than alex jones 2016-07-20T03:09:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T03:09:43 < Laurenceb__> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/015/672/64d.gif 2016-07-20T03:10:14 < Laurenceb__> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me92vexwKo1rqo45ao1_400.gif 2016-07-20T03:10:51 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/zBDaWYL.jpg 2016-07-20T03:11:21 < Laurenceb__> most complex board ever 2016-07-20T03:11:27 < dongs> ya 2016-07-20T03:19:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T03:22:32 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/xHNujbo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pj4i7rt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5uviZjZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eSPxje6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7gOuJHw.jpg 2016-07-20T03:23:45 < dongs> rolf 2016-07-20T03:23:47 < dongs> the last 3 are gud 2016-07-20T03:24:50 < dongs> same stuff. 2016-07-20T03:25:35 < dongs> ya? 2016-07-20T03:26:38 < dongs> damn that looks rich 2016-07-20T03:26:41 < dongs> $500 minimum right 2016-07-20T03:27:19 < dongs> close 2016-07-20T03:27:20 < dongs> 575 on amazon 2016-07-20T03:27:44 < dongs> i need login + username on my soldering iron 2016-07-20T03:32:12 < Laurenceb__> second one almost looks feasible 2016-07-20T03:32:33 < Laurenceb__> but he will prob burn hand once hot air is applied 2016-07-20T03:39:33 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-07-20T03:39:46 < Laurenceb__> use wet kitchen roll 2016-07-20T03:39:48 < ReadError> altium should pour teardrops with a higher priority than polygons 2016-07-20T03:40:05 < ReadError> otherwise u gotta shelve, teardrop, re-enable 2016-07-20T03:40:30 < Laurenceb__> or in the case of crt, a used wanksock 2016-07-20T03:41:32 < Laurenceb__> use eagle or kicad 2016-07-20T03:41:35 < Laurenceb__> /troll 2016-07-20T03:41:53 < Laurenceb__> kicad has an even more retarded ui than eagle 2016-07-20T03:42:15 < Laurenceb__> I raged after 30 minutes trying to work the gui 2016-07-20T03:42:26 < Laurenceb__> I raged with eagle but could use the gui after 30 minutes 2016-07-20T03:42:31 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-20T03:43:48 < Laurenceb__> lul top trllin 2016-07-20T03:55:08 < Laurenceb__> hehe crt admits autism 2016-07-20T03:55:18 < Laurenceb__> irc syndrome confirmed 2016-07-20T03:59:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T03:59:59 < Laurenceb__> which reminds me of the only confirmed case 2016-07-20T04:00:01 < Laurenceb__> hotwheels 2016-07-20T04:00:04 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-07-20T04:00:44 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Au29uY4.jpg 2016-07-20T04:02:58 < Laurenceb__> I don't think hotwheels counts tbh 2016-07-20T04:03:06 < Laurenceb__> as he was already an e-celeb 2016-07-20T04:06:03 < Laurenceb__> thanks for that mental image 2016-07-20T04:08:08 < dongs> i tihnk from now on 2016-07-20T04:08:16 < dongs> im gonna submit all imgur images to their gallery 2016-07-20T04:08:22 < dongs> all teh faggots refreshing that shit must be super angry 2016-07-20T04:08:27 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/8chan 2016-07-20T04:09:15 < Laurenceb__> lul whyyy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1U1cT72JBc 2016-07-20T04:10:18 < Laurenceb__> video description is like peak internet troll 2016-07-20T04:10:29 < dongs> Laurenceb__: would you like to start generating funny content 2016-07-20T04:23:37 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/eqNYHZ3.png 2016-07-20T04:25:06 < Laurenceb__> I'm laughing 2016-07-20T04:31:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-20T04:43:44 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT5_-A0m8_U lol 2016-07-20T04:47:30 < dongs> no spoilers 2016-07-20T04:50:07 < dongs> haha 2016-07-20T04:50:12 < dongs> lol @ outside vid 2016-07-20T04:52:13 < dongs> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1358274/jaw-dropping-photos-taken-above-cerns-large-hadron-collider-lead-to-wild-new-conspiracy-theories-and-prove-portals-are-opening/ 2016-07-20T04:53:35 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/LT5_-A0m8_U?t=107 2016-07-20T04:53:41 < ReadError> he enjoys this a bit much 2016-07-20T04:54:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:3c66:b5d5:438e:7012] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-20T04:55:02 < dongs> R2COM: yeah, but tell that to the conspiracy kooks 2016-07-20T04:56:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.67] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-20T04:58:44 < dongs> http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ddorset/20096398/133083/133083_original.jpg found R2COM 2016-07-20T05:04:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T05:05:39 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-20T05:09:17 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T05:20:50 < dongs> lewl 2016-07-20T05:20:52 < dongs> do you really expect 2016-07-20T05:20:55 < dongs> some opensores QT garbage 2016-07-20T05:20:58 < dongs> to use GPU? 2016-07-20T05:21:06 < dongs> because its lunix code 2016-07-20T05:33:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d193:1a55:3e4a:f5be] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T05:36:47 < dongs> why do you need a graph updating at 60fps 2016-07-20T05:37:22 < dongs> Pokemon NeGRO 2016-07-20T05:41:49 < dongs> wat 2016-07-20T05:41:50 < dongs> bro 2016-07-20T05:41:54 < dongs> just use direct2d 2016-07-20T05:41:58 < dongs> you know how to draw a graph right 2016-07-20T05:42:00 < dongs> oh right 2016-07-20T05:42:01 < dongs> youre using QT 2016-07-20T05:42:04 < dongs> enjoy your OPENSORES 2016-07-20T05:42:10 < dongs> if you were using MFC< you could still do direct2d in a window 2016-07-20T05:42:13 < dongs> with QT, no idea 2016-07-20T05:43:03 < dongs> Direct2D is a hardware-accelerated, immediate-mode 2-D graphics API that provides high performance and high-quality rendering for 2-D geometry, bitmaps, and text. The Direct2D API is designed to interoperate with existing code that uses GDI, GDI+, or Direct3D. 2016-07-20T05:43:08 < dongs> see? 2016-07-20T05:43:10 < dongs> such amaze 2016-07-20T05:43:21 < dongs> you could probly get over 9000fps 2016-07-20T05:43:27 < dongs> with just doing your simple graphs with direc2d 2016-07-20T05:44:02 < dongs> https://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowsdesktop/MFC-Direct2D-Hello-World-9aa6ae00 2016-07-20T05:44:23 < dongs> so simplez 2016-07-20T05:45:29 < upgrdman> R2COM, i found similar problems with a chart lib for java 2016-07-20T05:46:30 < upgrdman> my i7 surface bro is pegged (but can do 40ish FPS, not 60) when 3 charts of 1000 points each when fullscreened ... or 60fps with 2 charts fullscreened 2016-07-20T05:46:40 < upgrdman> e.g. why the fuck so these line chart libs waste so much processing power 2016-07-20T05:46:52 < dongs> because dumb coders 2016-07-20T05:46:53 < dongs> duh 2016-07-20T05:47:00 < upgrdman> those fuckers need to optimize. even if they stick with sw rendering, this is way too slow for god damn line charts 2016-07-20T05:47:02 < dongs> tehy probably use java.LineTo() shit to draw 2016-07-20T05:47:33 < upgrdman> lol prolly 2016-07-20T05:48:11 < dongs> so uh 2016-07-20T05:48:13 < Thorn> Direct2D is not available on XP? 2016-07-20T05:48:14 < dongs> why dont you make a fucking test 2016-07-20T05:48:19 < dongs> wiht 1k points 2016-07-20T05:48:19 < dongs> and gl? 2016-07-20T05:48:24 < dongs> why are you testing 2 different conditions 2016-07-20T05:48:28 < dongs> Thorn: what t he fuck is XP? 2016-07-20T05:48:36 < dongs> why would anyone target anything below win7 in 20165 2016-07-20T05:48:37 < dongs> why would anyone target anything below win7 in 2016 2016-07-20T05:49:16 < Thorn> because customer has old desktops with 512Mb ram 2016-07-20T05:49:20 < Thorn> for example 2016-07-20T05:49:26 < dongs> ... ? 2016-07-20T05:49:38 < dongs> then dont have them as customers? 2016-07-20T05:49:50 < upgrdman> R2COM, i dunno. i would hope that an i7 could do that at 60fps. but then again, most libs are optimized to do AllTheThings instead of doing a subset very well. 2016-07-20T05:50:33 < upgrdman> like even if java, when i hand crafted a super shitty line graph gui widget, that shit was super smooth with fucktons of data points, full screen, on a 4yr old fagbook pro 2016-07-20T05:50:57 < upgrdman> R2COM, even with software rendering, it should be fast if coded well 2016-07-20T05:51:29 < upgrdman> yes 2016-07-20T05:51:52 < upgrdman> make your own Artisan(tm) charting lib 2016-07-20T05:52:04 < upgrdman> no, just jFreeChart for java 2016-07-20T05:52:38 < dongs> no its not 2016-07-20T05:52:43 < dongs> you have 1k points wihtout gl 2016-07-20T05:52:49 < dongs> 100k points with gl 2016-07-20T05:52:53 < dongs> HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SAME 2016-07-20T05:52:57 < upgrdman> R2COM, i know its using gpu, but i would check cpu usage. they should be able to make that shit multithreaded to spread your load around 2016-07-20T05:52:58 < dongs> ................ 2016-07-20T05:53:00 < dongs> then fix it 2016-07-20T05:53:19 < Thorn> opengl speed can be very different in immediate mode vs. vertex arrays 2016-07-20T05:53:42 < Thorn> I'm 87% sure lazy idiots still use immediate mode 2016-07-20T05:54:37 < dongs> then fix that fcking smaple code 2016-07-20T05:54:38 < dongs> what the hell 2016-07-20T05:54:42 < upgrdman> manually or otherwise, get rid of the variables 2016-07-20T05:55:14 < dongs> holy fuck 2016-07-20T05:55:20 < dongs> itrash 6s is like $1050 AUD 2016-07-20T05:55:25 < dongs> what a fucking waste 2016-07-20T05:55:37 < dongs> pal just tweeted his receipt 2016-07-20T05:55:42 < dongs> 1047aud incl tax/wahtever 2016-07-20T05:56:32 < dongs> crt, i thoughht you were my friend e-pal 2016-07-20T06:03:51 < ReadError> dongs cuz the AUD is worthless 2016-07-20T07:04:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T07:22:18 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-20T07:22:44 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-20T07:26:18 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@78.111.185.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T07:27:13 < Yoduza> what is name of the best ceramic capacitor 0.15uF >=1000V 20MHz ? 2016-07-20T07:28:57 < dongs> waht 2016-07-20T07:29:05 < dongs> 1000V 2016-07-20T07:29:22 < Thorn> ceramic or film 2016-07-20T07:32:15 < englishman> dongs: whatever is most appropriate for energy-creating tesla coil 2016-07-20T07:32:19 < englishman> i wish this guy would chat more 2016-07-20T07:32:32 < englishman> Yoduza: whats the status of your project? any pictures? 2016-07-20T07:32:48 < Yoduza> http://imgur.com/zKvFbx3 2016-07-20T07:33:06 < englishman> cool, looks technical and complicated 2016-07-20T07:33:08 < englishman> any in focus? 2016-07-20T07:33:42 < englishman> why do you laugh 2016-07-20T07:33:50 < englishman> energy creating tesla coils are the future 2016-07-20T07:34:14 < englishman> most of russia is powered this way 2016-07-20T07:35:28 < Yoduza> sorry for russia !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06vDuxu6vTM 2016-07-20T07:36:13 < englishman> is this your youtube? 2016-07-20T07:36:20 < Yoduza> SORRY FOR RUSSIA !!! SORRY FOR RUSSIA !!! SORRY FOR RUSSIA !!! 2016-07-20T07:36:36 < Yoduza> how many times need to say it more ? 2016-07-20T07:36:38 < englishman> no sorry, we love russia 2016-07-20T07:36:50 < englishman> free energy! free people! 2016-07-20T07:37:27 < englishman> ☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭ 2016-07-20T07:42:15 < Yoduza> :D 2016-07-20T07:42:29 < Yoduza> R2COM ;) 2016-07-20T07:45:31 < Yoduza> that all from sibiria... 1980 2016-07-20T07:46:03 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T07:47:10 < Thorn> whois says Ukraine 2016-07-20T07:47:51 < Yoduza> Russia need new government 2016-07-20T07:48:04 < Yoduza> or nothing :( 2016-07-20T07:48:40 < Yoduza> Ukraine != Russia 2016-07-20T07:48:52 < Yoduza> Ukraine is EU 2016-07-20T07:49:13 < Yoduza> EU is Ukraine ;) 2016-07-20T07:49:23 < Yoduza> yes 2016-07-20T07:50:26 < englishman> sup flyback 2016-07-20T07:50:35 < englishman> hows the syrup 2016-07-20T07:50:55 < englishman> right 2016-07-20T07:51:24 < englishman> eat any poutine today 2016-07-20T07:51:38 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T07:55:15 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-20T08:05:36 < englishman> meanwhile in russia http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/05/246AFBFF00000578-2897053-image-a-66_1420453848671.jpg 2016-07-20T08:06:20 < englishman> i dono america is pretty shitty too 2016-07-20T08:06:34 < englishman> but in a different way 2016-07-20T08:06:57 < englishman> dono about that 2016-07-20T08:07:16 < englishman> but i got my little place in the country and i dont lock my doors when i go out 2016-07-20T08:08:07 < englishman> i have to go more than 200ft to the mailbox 2016-07-20T08:08:13 < englishman> and ar15, just one? 2016-07-20T08:09:29 < Yoduza> how about Yanukovich deportation for judgements? 2016-07-20T08:09:54 < Yoduza> we waiting long time !!!! 2016-07-20T08:10:37 < Yoduza> need NOW !!!! 2016-07-20T08:11:04 < Yoduza> NOW !!!!!!! 2016-07-20T08:11:20 < Yoduza> today !! yesterday !!! 2016-07-20T08:13:13 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-20T08:33:22 < Rob235> blah, almost there: http://imgur.com/a/L9e4N 2016-07-20T08:34:50 < ReadError> http://www.mavlink.org/ 2016-07-20T08:34:59 < Rob235> shhhhh 2016-07-20T08:35:29 < ReadError> oh you cuck, you did this gui just for LEDs didnt you 2016-07-20T08:36:08 < Rob235> haha no, mainly for motor output 2016-07-20T08:36:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/project-11049074/ haha yea right 2016-07-20T08:36:21 < englishman> funny how Rob235 has made more progress in 25 days of irc than 3dr has in 6 years 2016-07-20T08:36:39 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/Clep3qxC0co 2016-07-20T08:36:44 < Rob235> thats a video from earlier 2016-07-20T08:36:53 < englishman> dongs: 404 fgt 2016-07-20T08:37:17 < dongs> wat no 2016-07-20T08:37:59 < englishman> is that in processing 2016-07-20T08:38:04 < Rob235> yup 2016-07-20T08:38:12 < englishman> that's amazing (for processing) 2016-07-20T08:38:32 < Rob235> haven't had any frame rate issues 2016-07-20T08:40:40 < dongs> http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/19/breaking-milo-suspended-twitter-20-minutes-party/ 2016-07-20T08:43:29 < ReadError> that guy doesnt look the slightest bit gay though 2016-07-20T08:44:39 -!- Yoduza [~Yoduza@78.111.185.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-20T08:48:29 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-20T09:00:47 < dongs> crt: ok igeuss tahts why it says 'private' 2016-07-20T09:06:54 < ReadError> ohsix yea, fucked up right 2016-07-20T09:10:20 < dongs> ... 2016-07-20T09:10:32 < dongs> hes not in here you dumb kike 2016-07-20T09:19:51 < ReadError> alright but you thought he was for a sec 2016-07-20T09:20:17 < dongs> yeah i had to furiosuy /whois 2016-07-20T09:20:19 < dongs> furiously 2016-07-20T09:20:37 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T09:23:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-20T09:31:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-20T09:42:01 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T09:43:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T09:45:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T09:59:58 < Steffanx> Gone and still not over him. Hah. 2016-07-20T10:00:08 < dongs> i didnt bring it up 2016-07-20T10:00:12 < dongs> shitcloner did 2016-07-20T10:00:21 < dongs> if you noticed , I havent mentioned the channel clown ever since he left. 2016-07-20T10:04:51 -!- __rob2 [~rob@5.80.66.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-20T10:07:26 -!- __rob [~rob@5.80.66.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:14:02 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/WxLzM decided to get the attitude gauge done tonight 2016-07-20T10:15:10 < dongs> why i dont see vappy in the title yet 2016-07-20T10:16:02 < Rob235> next revision 2016-07-20T10:16:34 < dongs> processing is like .pde right? 2016-07-20T10:17:01 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-20T10:21:30 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-20T10:22:04 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:22:16 < Rob235> just gotta add the radio switches and clean some stuff up, that is for tomorrow though, goodnight 2016-07-20T10:28:58 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:29:04 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-20T10:31:06 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-20T10:33:25 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:38:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T10:38:30 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:44:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:49:20 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T10:58:13 -!- __rob [~rob@5.80.66.138] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T10:58:30 -!- __rob [~rob@5.80.66.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T10:59:12 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t9kol13gmyqia.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-20T11:01:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-20T11:07:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-20T11:16:30 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T11:21:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d193:1a55:3e4a:f5be] has quit [Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? 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C is kind of an outsider here but it gets better, especially if you enable and not ignore all the warnings. 2016-07-20T14:03:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.191] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:03:37 < PaulFertser> ifjGery: I think you should be getting a warning with your specific code already, you're just ignoring it. 2016-07-20T14:03:57 < ifjGery> thank you PaulFertser it's working now 2016-07-20T14:04:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:04:07 < ifjGery> "remote\remote.axf" - 0 Error(s), 0 Warning(s). 2016-07-20T14:04:18 < PaulFertser> ifjGery: do you enable all warnings? 2016-07-20T14:04:48 < ifjGery> i'll go check, i use the dafault setting in keil5 2016-07-20T14:05:26 < ifjGery> yes, all warnings are shown 2016-07-20T14:06:06 < PaulFertser> ifjGery: so you say that Keil silently truncates numbers without emitting any warning? 2016-07-20T14:07:28 < ifjGery> semms like, this is my first time proggramming for stm32, so im not quite familiar with the environment 2016-07-20T14:07:42 < PaulFertser> dongs should be able to clarify 2016-07-20T14:15:09 < dongs> wat 2016-07-20T14:15:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-20T14:15:36 < dongs> ifjGery: don't use uiint8 for counter. only int. 2016-07-20T14:16:08 < ifjGery> okay 2016-07-20T14:16:35 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:16:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T14:16:58 < PaulFertser> dongs: the question is, why Keil didn't warn him when he was passing "int" to a function that declares a "uint8_t" argument? 2016-07-20T14:17:11 < dongs> he didn't have -Wall 2016-07-20T14:17:28 < dongs> there's literalyl something like -wall that makes it spit out a ton more shit than most warnings set level 2016-07-20T14:17:47 < PaulFertser> ifjGery: ^ 2016-07-20T14:18:01 < ifjGery> in target settings under warnings it set to Show All 2016-07-20T14:18:02 < dongs> i never use it cuz my code is perfect 2016-07-20T14:18:05 < dongs> no 2016-07-20T14:18:07 < dongs> under compiler options 2016-07-20T14:18:10 < ifjGery> "All Warnings" 2016-07-20T14:18:11 < dongs> and you'll need to google armcc command lines 2016-07-20T14:18:15 < dongs> to see which one show smore errors 2016-07-20T14:19:36 < ifjGery> okay, gonna check on that 2016-07-20T14:20:59 < dongs> i remembert turning that on and getting millions warnings in stdperiph shit 2016-07-20T14:21:02 < dongs> so i gave up 2016-07-20T14:21:07 < ifjGery> damn, there is no -Wall in the string it passes to the compiler 2016-07-20T14:21:10 < dongs> and again, my code is perfect so i rarele need it 2016-07-20T14:21:12 < dongs> there is 2016-07-20T14:21:14 < ifjGery> why do i trust these sw 2016-07-20T14:21:16 < dongs> its not called that 2016-07-20T14:22:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:22:04 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T14:25:17 < ifjGery> according to this http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/uv4/uv4_dg_adscc.htm 2016-07-20T14:25:24 < ifjGery> the default is "All Warnings" 2016-07-20T14:25:27 < ifjGery> intresting 2016-07-20T14:27:37 < ifjGery> anyway, it's working now, thanks for the help and tips 2016-07-20T14:27:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T14:27:38 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:28:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-20T14:28:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:30:10 < ReadError> dongs 2016-07-20T14:30:11 < ReadError> http://gizmodo.com/why-the-army-is-ditching-android-for-apple-1783907126 2016-07-20T14:30:37 < ReadError> According to a source who spoke to DoD Buzz, the Android phone used as part of the special forces tactical assault kit just wasn’t cutting it. Android would freeze unexpectedly, especially when trying to watch aerial feeds of unmanned drones, the source said. Now, the Army is going to give the iPhone 6s a spin. 2016-07-20T14:30:40 < ReadError> typical android 2016-07-20T14:31:26 < PaulFertser> So they choose fagphone instead? How smart of them! 2016-07-20T14:34:34 < Ecco> Hey :) 2016-07-20T14:34:56 < Ecco> Question: in a schematics, should I keep an MCU pins ordered as on the physical chip? 2016-07-20T14:35:19 < Ecco> I have mixed feelings : on the one hand it makes checking a PCB easier 2016-07-20T14:35:30 < Ecco> but on the other it can make a cluttier schematic 2016-07-20T14:38:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:38:11 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T14:47:11 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:47:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T14:51:25 < ReadError> ya i think its easier too verify stuff 2016-07-20T14:51:42 < ReadError> but some things like stm32, big packages, easier to group 2016-07-20T14:57:34 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-172-28.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:58:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T14:58:41 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T14:59:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-182-19.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-20T15:07:44 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:07:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T15:15:31 < dongs> i use named nets anywayh 2016-07-20T15:15:42 < dongs> so there's no reason to run a long line from pin to destination 2016-07-20T15:18:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-147.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:27:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:27:19 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T15:32:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T15:32:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:34:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.63] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:35:05 < Laurenceb__> damn I need some zyclon b 2016-07-20T15:35:16 < Laurenceb__> I was reading about that stuff and it sounds epic 2016-07-20T15:36:01 * Laurenceb__ is suffering from bugs in house 2016-07-20T15:36:05 < effractur> with or without the added smell 2016-07-20T15:36:11 < Laurenceb__> if I could just gas the fuckers 2016-07-20T15:37:15 < englishman> get a kitty 2016-07-20T15:48:45 < ReadMobl> http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/19/amazon-wants-to-use-lampposts-churches-as-drone-perches.html 2016-07-20T15:48:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T15:48:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:53:51 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-20T15:54:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@101.204.228.22] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-20T15:59:04 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T15:59:21 < Tectu> sup o/ 2016-07-20T15:59:32 < Tectu> thanks man 2016-07-20T16:01:29 < Tectu> did I miss anything? 2016-07-20T16:01:34 < Tectu> any news on zano? 2016-07-20T16:04:23 < Tectu> PaulFertser, around? 2016-07-20T16:04:37 < dongs> that shit BSD'd long time ago 2016-07-20T16:05:43 < PaulFertser> Tectu: yep 2016-07-20T16:05:56 < Tectu> PaulFertser, as you mentioned C++14 yesterday, how good is your C++11? 2016-07-20T16:06:40 < PaulFertser> Tectu: is this a test? ;) 2016-07-20T16:06:48 < PaulFertser> Tectu: not too good really. 2016-07-20T16:06:48 < Tectu> PaulFertser, no, I'm just stuck ;) 2016-07-20T16:07:04 < PaulFertser> But I can try to take a look. Also, there're real C++ pros here. 2016-07-20T16:07:09 < PaulFertser> They'll help for sure. 2016-07-20T16:07:16 < Tectu> PaulFertser, C++11 allows to call a ctor from another ctor. is there anyway that I can call a regular ctor from my copy-ctore while still running the base class copy-ctor afterwards to avoid code duplication? 2016-07-20T16:07:50 < Tectu> PaulFertser, like this: http://paste.ugfx.org/show/e9b2298c6a 2016-07-20T16:08:03 < Tectu> PaulFertser, I need to execute the exact same code I am doing in the ctor in the copy-ctor 2016-07-20T16:08:08 < Tectu> and then issue the base class copy-ctor 2016-07-20T16:08:23 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-20T16:08:26 < Tectu> the old way is having a private init() method, but as C++11 allows doing ctor calling magic I hoped that I can avoid that now. 2016-07-20T16:09:16 < Ecco> dongs: I also use named nets 2016-07-20T16:09:25 < Tectu> Ecco o/ 2016-07-20T16:09:35 < Ecco> so indeed you don't clutter the design too much by sticking to the original package layout in the schematics 2016-07-20T16:09:38 < Ecco> Hi Tectu :) 2016-07-20T16:09:53 < Tectu> what PCB software is Mr. Ecco using? 2016-07-20T16:09:57 < Ecco> Altidongs 2016-07-20T16:09:58 < Tectu> dongsCAD? 2016-07-20T16:10:20 < Tectu> stop being able to afford expensive software 2016-07-20T16:10:24 < Ecco> But that being said 2016-07-20T16:10:32 < Ecco> The question is really software-independent 2016-07-20T16:11:02 < Ecco> I've noticed that ST, in their Discoboard schematics, don't stick to the physical package at all 2016-07-20T16:11:28 < Ecco> It does make nicer schemactics since you can group pins by functionality 2016-07-20T16:11:30 < PaulFertser> Tectu: I think you seem to want something strange. You're supposed to either fully delegate the job to another constructor or not afaict. 2016-07-20T16:13:19 < PaulFertser> Tectu: so you implement the most generic constructor and delegate from the others to that universal one. 2016-07-20T16:13:56 < Tectu> PaulFertser, the base class copy-ctor can only take care of initializing the crap that is part of that base class. I still have to initialize/copy the shit of the actual class myself manually in that copy-ctor. 2016-07-20T16:13:57 < Tectu> PaulFertser, http://paste.ugfx.org/show/073da02cd1 2016-07-20T16:14:46 < Tectu> PaulFertser, that code there is how you would do it with C++ < C++11 and that works. The question was is whether I can use constructor delegation to avoid that in the copy-ctor 2016-07-20T16:16:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-20T16:21:51 < Steffanx> I like that sores bin tectu. Where did you get it? 2016-07-20T16:22:04 < Tectu> Steffanx you wrote it 2016-07-20T16:22:08 < PaulFertser> Tectu: I see what you mean, but I can't give any suggestion. So you'll have to wait for real pros. 2016-07-20T16:22:16 < Tectu> PaulFertser, thanks o/ 2016-07-20T16:26:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T16:26:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T16:35:52 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-20T16:36:49 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T16:41:28 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T16:41:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T16:53:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T16:53:03 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T16:58:33 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T16:58:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T17:03:52 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T17:04:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T17:08:04 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T17:17:07 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T17:17:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T17:19:18 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-20T17:20:21 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T17:21:51 < Laurenceb> any news on zano? 2016-07-20T17:21:56 < Laurenceb> its the $current year 2016-07-20T17:22:05 < Laurenceb> didnt you know zano is long dead 2016-07-20T17:29:03 < englishman> Laurenceb: its the $current year, do you know where your humour is 2016-07-20T17:29:41 < Laurenceb> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/2/26/Johnoliverthecurrentyear.jpg/300px-Johnoliverthecurrentyear.jpg 2016-07-20T17:30:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-097-147.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-20T17:30:28 < Laurenceb> hopefully hyperloop will be dead soon 2016-07-20T17:33:40 < jon1012> speaking of zano, there is a kickstarter crap I backed that I will never receive, they took the money and fleed to the usa 2016-07-20T17:33:43 < Tectu> thank you englishman. 2016-07-20T17:33:55 < Laurenceb> lol what a suprise 2016-07-20T17:33:57 < englishman> tektoo 2016-07-20T17:34:02 < englishman> \o 2016-07-20T17:34:07 < Tectu> o/ 2016-07-20T17:34:13 < Tectu> bad touch! 2016-07-20T17:34:19 < jon1012> this one : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ezelleron/kraftwerk-highly-innovative-portable-power-plant 2016-07-20T17:34:35 < englishman> are ST and AD competing for who can send the most spam 2016-07-20T17:34:42 < dongs> uh,......... 2016-07-20T17:34:48 < dongs> jon1012: why the fuicking fuck would you back that 2016-07-20T17:34:48 < Tectu> good job at being an idiot, jon1012 2016-07-20T17:35:01 < Laurenceb> portable-power-plant 2016-07-20T17:35:11 < dongs> a fucking portable fuel cell, lol 2016-07-20T17:35:11 < Laurenceb> cold fusion or steorn? 2016-07-20T17:35:18 < jon1012> haha 2016-07-20T17:35:22 < englishman> lol 2016-07-20T17:35:24 < Laurenceb> holy shit 2016-07-20T17:35:24 < jon1012> usb fuel cell was a funny idea 2016-07-20T17:35:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m 2016-07-20T17:35:29 < Laurenceb> megabucks 2016-07-20T17:35:33 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/0BBdSes.png 2016-07-20T17:35:45 < dongs> cuz all the car makers / companies with billions/ military haven't been able to figure out how to minituarize stuff 2016-07-20T17:35:54 < dongs> and these fags with 150k dickstarter got it all working 2016-07-20T17:35:56 < dongs> YA RIGHT 2016-07-20T17:36:27 < Tectu> well it's 1.5M 2016-07-20T17:36:36 < Tectu> still stupid to bake something like that 2016-07-20T17:36:53 < dongs> lol tectu, they can't do it even with 15m 2016-07-20T17:37:22 < englishman> thats why they moved to the most expensive place for tech startups 2016-07-20T17:37:33 < Tectu> dongs at least this way people like jon1012 have less money to bake tarduino stuff 2016-07-20T17:38:17 < Laurenceb> HIGHLYINNOVATIVE 2016-07-20T17:38:19 < Tectu> jon1012 probably looked at the campaign and thought "oh, german system engineer, asian software developer.... cheesuz, that's gunna work!!!111" 2016-07-20T17:38:22 < Laurenceb> INTERNETOFTHINGS 2016-07-20T17:39:09 < Tectu> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/298/836/b03a8e1a95062eea7728518053f784f7_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1424194588&auto=format&q=92&s=c7137ec48ccf8060b50ca2f3d5ce2928 2016-07-20T17:39:18 < Tectu> yep, that totally looks like legit mass manufacturing 2016-07-20T17:39:33 < Laurenceb> haha wut 2016-07-20T17:39:37 < dongs> fucking hipster photos 2016-07-20T17:39:47 < dongs> why does every dickstarter have some bullshit instragam-filtered garbage 2016-07-20T17:39:49 < dongs> instead of something real 2016-07-20T17:39:52 < dongs> oh wait, cuz there's nothing real 2016-07-20T17:39:55 < Laurenceb> gas the hipsters 2016-07-20T17:39:56 < Tectu> but it says "mass manufacturing" in italics, gotta be the real deal broh 2016-07-20T17:40:19 < Tectu> the only thing worse than hipsters are horses 2016-07-20T17:41:13 < Laurenceb> haha unfortunately true 2016-07-20T17:41:56 < Tectu> dongs, what do think about circuitstudio? it's cheapo now 2016-07-20T17:42:02 < dongs> still trash 2016-07-20T17:42:15 < Tectu> how does it compare to altidongs besides fancy ribbon UI crap? 2016-07-20T17:42:20 < dongs> thats the problem 2016-07-20T17:42:22 < Tectu> I assume that it's the same engine? 2016-07-20T17:42:31 < dongs> it lacks the only reason to use altidumb 2016-07-20T17:42:35 < dongs> which is keyboard 2016-07-20T17:42:43 < Tectu> uhm 2016-07-20T17:42:46 < Tectu> you can't keyboard it? 2016-07-20T17:42:48 < dongs> no 2016-07-20T17:42:51 < Tectu> -__- 2016-07-20T17:42:54 < Tectu> seriously? 2016-07-20T17:42:58 < Tectu> or was that like 2014? 2016-07-20T17:43:05 < dongs> seriously. 2016-07-20T17:43:15 < Tectu> useless. 2016-07-20T17:44:48 < Laurenceb> like seriously 2016-07-20T17:44:49 < Laurenceb> like 2016-07-20T17:44:56 < Laurenceb> I can't even 2016-07-20T17:45:42 < Tectu> fixed cute crap yet, Mr. laurence? 2016-07-20T17:45:56 < Laurenceb> working on it atm... 2016-07-20T17:46:17 < Tectu> good 2016-07-20T17:46:55 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-20T18:08:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T18:15:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-20T18:24:55 -!- bobryan [~h36sa@freebsd/contributor/bobryan] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T18:36:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T18:40:21 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T18:49:08 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-07-20T18:55:14 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T18:56:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:01:43 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:04:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:12:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-20T19:15:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-20T19:26:05 < Laurenceb> mechaduino on $61 2016-07-20T19:26:13 < Laurenceb> almost enough to buy a house 2016-07-20T19:26:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-20T19:26:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:32:55 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:36:10 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-20T19:37:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-20T19:41:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:43:37 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-20T19:49:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T19:52:51 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T19:54:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-20T19:57:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:00:13 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:00:27 < englishman> lol 2016-07-20T20:00:28 < englishman> where? 2016-07-20T20:00:34 < englishman> maybe a shed 2016-07-20T20:00:36 < englishman> in uk 2016-07-20T20:01:56 < englishman> actually wasnt bullDOGErs looking to buy a shed in london for $60k 2016-07-20T20:03:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:07:39 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-20T20:13:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:18:55 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T20:22:37 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:27:22 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-20T20:27:46 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:28:31 < Laurenceb> lul autism http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36844437 2016-07-20T20:29:11 < ReadError> Laurenceb do your parents ever be like, "Laurence, we worry about you sometimes" 2016-07-20T20:29:30 < Laurenceb> I ate them 2016-07-20T20:29:31 < Laurenceb> so no 2016-07-20T20:29:34 < Ultrasauce> "fuck you you're not my real dad" 2016-07-20T20:29:41 < Laurenceb> inb4 cuck 2016-07-20T20:30:13 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:32:34 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-20T20:33:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:34:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:5553:2557:6588:be4d] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:45:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:47:19 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T20:47:19 < Shavik> FreeRTOS Question: Say I'm in an ISR and I SemaphoreGiveFromISR, the second argument being the xHigherPriorityTaskWoken indicates whether I should perform a context switch at the end of my ISR. I guess I just don't understand what would be the situation in which that wou ld be true? What causes the need for a context switch at the end of an ISR? 2016-07-20T20:48:50 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T20:56:09 < Tectu> Steffanx 2016-07-20T21:01:08 < Laurenceb> omg no way 2016-07-20T21:01:10 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/solution-evaluation-tools/computer-and-peripherals-solution-eval-boards/steval-3dp001v1.html 2016-07-20T21:02:13 < Shavik> Curious how many of those they sell 2016-07-20T21:02:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T21:02:52 < Laurenceb> I don't see how the wifi module is going to work 2016-07-20T21:03:09 < Laurenceb> surrounded by ground plane lulwut 2016-07-20T21:03:11 < Shavik> you gotta believe 2016-07-20T21:03:33 < Shavik> It's an eval board. It's for you to evaluate how not to do it 2016-07-20T21:03:36 < ReadError> 118$ gtfo 2016-07-20T21:03:39 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-07-20T21:04:02 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3Dpriter-control-board-MKS-SBase-V1-0-32-s-Motherboard-compatible-Smoothieware-open-source-firmware-support/1047297_32384368763.html 2016-07-20T21:04:29 < Laurenceb> lul it says maker 2016-07-20T21:04:45 < ReadError> those boards are pretty nice 2016-07-20T21:04:48 < ReadError> i have a few 2016-07-20T21:04:55 < ReadError> better than the original anyways 2016-07-20T21:05:05 < Laurenceb> well the firmware is the most important thing 2016-07-20T21:05:14 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/vsRTx and everything is working! just gotta clean some stuff up 2016-07-20T21:05:21 < Sync> Laurenceb: that is the anti cloner feature 2016-07-20T21:05:31 < Sync> it will only pair with your phone if you are closer than 10cm 2016-07-20T21:05:32 < ReadError> https://github.com/St3dPrinter/Marlin4ST 2016-07-20T21:05:38 < ReadError> who knows how good it is 2016-07-20T21:06:02 < Tectu> It's an eval board. It's for you to evaluate how not to do it <--- lol'd 2016-07-20T21:06:06 < Laurenceb> I hard it was good but 3d printers suck 2016-07-20T21:06:14 < Tectu> All the eval boards I have from ST are pretty kickass though. 2016-07-20T21:06:31 < aandrew> yeah I haven't had a shit ST board yet 2016-07-20T21:06:34 < Shavik> Agreed. Just trying to be funny lol 2016-07-20T21:11:26 < Steffanx> No way Tectu. The lcd on the F429 discovery sucks big arse. 2016-07-20T21:11:45 < Tectu> Steffanx, I said eval boards :p 2016-07-20T21:11:53 < Steffanx> oh, sure. but still 2016-07-20T21:12:14 < Tectu> I got two eval boards with automotive touchscreens. very nice displays 2016-07-20T21:12:20 < Steffanx> ST lists those under eval kits. 2016-07-20T21:12:25 < Tectu> yes, the F429i panel is pretty bad. 2016-07-20T21:12:25 < Steffanx> Your turn. 2016-07-20T21:12:28 < Tectu> wut? 2016-07-20T21:12:29 < Tectu> no way. 2016-07-20T21:12:33 < Tectu> it's discovery broh 2016-07-20T21:12:40 < Steffanx> Home Evaluation Tools Product Evaluation Tools MCU Eval Tools STM32 MCU Eval Tools STM32 MCU Discovery Kits 32F429IDISCOVERY 2016-07-20T21:13:47 < Tectu> yes, it is an evaluation tool, but not an evaluation board :p 2016-07-20T21:13:51 < Tectu> it's a discovery board. 2016-07-20T21:17:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-20T21:28:18 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T21:32:48 < Laurenceb> ooh 2016-07-20T21:32:50 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/St3dPrinter 2016-07-20T21:42:17 < Steffanx> lol ebay: www.ebay.com/itm/Welcome-2-Da-District-Whop-N-Em-Aka-the-Triangle-MUSIC-CD-/311606339168 2016-07-20T21:42:31 < Steffanx> some webdev forgot to remove some "alert" thingy. 2016-07-20T21:43:20 < Rob235> cruddy youngins 2016-07-20T21:44:14 < Steffanx> probably used processing :P 2016-07-20T21:44:27 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-20T21:52:07 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T21:55:48 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-20T21:56:39 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T21:59:43 < Laurenceb> hmf 2016-07-20T21:59:50 < Laurenceb> gui still broken 2016-07-20T22:00:05 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/connectionmanager.cpp 2016-07-20T22:00:20 < Laurenceb> line 266, does that look sane? 2016-07-20T22:00:36 < Tectu> I regret that I clicked that link. 2016-07-20T22:01:19 < Tectu> Laurenceb, line 266 looks sane although I have no idea what setDataToGraph() is and what latestdatasamples is 2016-07-20T22:01:50 < Laurenceb> line 79 https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/connectionmanager.h 2016-07-20T22:02:08 < Tectu> dude, stop writing that state machine like that. Use QStateMachine 2016-07-20T22:02:14 < Tectu> https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/statemachine-api.html 2016-07-20T22:02:36 < Laurenceb> hmm useful 2016-07-20T22:02:38 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-20T22:03:02 < Tectu> Laurenceb, setDataToGraph() must be in the signals section of your class declaration if you want to use it as a signal 2016-07-20T22:03:28 < Laurenceb> it is isnt it? 2016-07-20T22:03:57 < Tectu> ah, my bad 2016-07-20T22:04:02 < Tectu> dude your coding style sucks arse 2016-07-20T22:04:06 < Tectu> not even sure if one can call that style 2016-07-20T22:04:14 < Laurenceb> I copypastered c code from the stm32 end 2016-07-20T22:04:27 < Tectu> so that line 266 looks fine in that context 2016-07-20T22:04:33 < Fleck> not as bad as mine though 2016-07-20T22:04:37 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-20T22:04:46 < Laurenceb> well the data arrives but its random junk 2016-07-20T22:05:05 < Tectu> is it already random junk before line 266? 2016-07-20T22:05:06 < Laurenceb> looks fine at the connectionmanager end 2016-07-20T22:05:19 < Tectu> show me your other end 2016-07-20T22:05:22 < Laurenceb> also works fine if I write a lame loop to add each sample 2016-07-20T22:05:28 < Laurenceb> but that kills the processor 2016-07-20T22:06:00 < Laurenceb> as its trying to redraw at 250hz 2016-07-20T22:06:15 < Laurenceb> line 264 https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/graph.cpp 2016-07-20T22:06:45 < Steffanx> you know you can click on a line no and copy paste that Laurenceb? ;) 2016-07-20T22:07:07 < Tectu> sorry, can't look at that. already got eye cancer from the first paste. 2016-07-20T22:07:54 < Laurenceb> you should be shot or something bro 2016-07-20T22:07:56 < Laurenceb> nice 2016-07-20T22:08:59 < Laurenceb> hang on 2016-07-20T22:09:29 < Laurenceb> if I use signals and slots could the two functions be running concurrently? 2016-07-20T22:09:41 < Tectu> yes, signal&slots are thread safe 2016-07-20T22:09:49 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-20T22:09:57 < Laurenceb> maybe thats the source of the error 2016-07-20T22:10:27 < Tectu> you might want to consider using QSharedDataPointer 2016-07-20T22:16:10 < scummos> *queued signals&slots are thread-safe 2016-07-20T22:16:24 < Tectu> yes that ^ 2016-07-20T22:16:38 < Laurenceb> well something is wrong 2016-07-20T22:16:58 < Laurenceb> guess I'll spend ages reading about shared data pointers in the hope it fixes it 2016-07-20T22:17:09 < Laurenceb> but I've still got no closer to working out whats wrong 2016-07-20T22:17:09 < Tectu> nah, you are not required to do that 2016-07-20T22:17:14 < Tectu> just as you are not required to use QStateMachine 2016-07-20T22:17:27 < Tectu> I would love to help, but I can't read that code, I'm sorry. 2016-07-20T22:18:06 < Tectu> maybe scummos likes no-whitespaces code 2016-07-20T22:18:37 < scummos> what do you think of me 2016-07-20T22:18:58 < englishman> i think he was talking about ScummOS, the lucasarts operating system 2016-07-20T22:18:59 < scummos> what is the problem, even 2016-07-20T22:19:14 < Tectu> scummos, I have no idea. Just don't click his linkts 2016-07-20T22:19:27 < Tectu> that is also generic advice when it comes to links pasted by Laurenceb 2016-07-20T22:19:57 < Laurenceb> scummos: data gets corrupted.. somehow 2016-07-20T22:20:05 < scummos> Laurenceb: the first thing which strikes me as odd is that you pass in your data as a QVector& 2016-07-20T22:20:07 < scummos> why 2016-07-20T22:20:07 < Tectu> Laurenceb, just to clarify: don't mess with QSharedDataPointer unless you know that it helps in your design. It's something to get fancy that can vastly improve performance and shit. But it depends a lot on your design. 2016-07-20T22:20:32 < Laurenceb> scummos: cuz Tectu said... 2016-07-20T22:20:32 < scummos> why the reference, unless you want to modify it 2016-07-20T22:20:32 < Tectu> scummos, what's wrong with that? 2016-07-20T22:20:41 < scummos> const & 2016-07-20T22:20:55 < Tectu> scummos, he only wants to read it 2016-07-20T22:21:05 < scummos> then he should pass a const reference, to avoid accidentially doing something else 2016-07-20T22:21:16 < Tectu> he does, no? 2016-07-20T22:21:20 < Tectu> at least that is what I told him to do 2016-07-20T22:21:21 < scummos> void Graph::addData(QVector&datasamp) { 2016-07-20T22:21:24 < Tectu> oh 2016-07-20T22:21:24 < scummos> not const 2016-07-20T22:21:31 < Tectu> scummos, that's not the code I told him to do :p 2016-07-20T22:21:37 < Laurenceb> I'll change lol 2016-07-20T22:21:52 < Tectu> 2016-07-19T20:43:10 < Tectu> Laurenceb, void setDataToGraph(const QVector& data); 2016-07-20T22:21:54 < scummos> and if it doesn't compile, you might already have found the reason for your problem btw :D 2016-07-20T22:22:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-20T22:22:17 < scummos> or just copy it, I mean it's a QVector, copying it costs nothing anyways 2016-07-20T22:22:23 < scummos> but constref is even cheaper 2016-07-20T22:23:07 < Steffanx> afaik QVector won't copy anything anyway. 2016-07-20T22:23:16 < scummos> it won't 2016-07-20T22:23:24 < Steffanx> *everything. 2016-07-20T22:23:27 < Steffanx> lol 2016-07-20T22:23:33 < Tectu> implicit sharing <3 2016-07-20T22:23:34 < scummos> anything is right :D 2016-07-20T22:23:49 < scummos> but you still increase the refcount, which is more expensive than a constref, so ... yeah 2016-07-20T22:24:19 < scummos> Laurenceb: why do you use bitmasks on a desktop application :/ 2016-07-20T22:24:25 < Laurenceb> emit setDataToGraph(latestdatasamples);//This is connected to the plotter, latestdatasamples.clear(); 2016-07-20T22:24:35 < Laurenceb> is that ok? delete straight after? 2016-07-20T22:24:44 < Laurenceb> scummos cuz its copypasted stm32 code 2016-07-20T22:24:45 < scummos> where is that even 2016-07-20T22:25:11 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/connectionmanager.cpp 2016-07-20T22:25:17 < Laurenceb> ln 266 2016-07-20T22:26:07 < scummos> Laurenceb: is the connection queued? 2016-07-20T22:26:16 < Laurenceb> I dont know 2016-07-20T22:26:27 < Laurenceb> connect(connection, SIGNAL(setDataToGraph(const QVector&)), this, SLOT(addData(const QVector&)));//This message is passed to 2016-07-20T22:26:32 < Laurenceb> no special settings used 2016-07-20T22:26:36 < scummos> does connection live in the same thread as this? 2016-07-20T22:27:05 < Laurenceb> it should do... 2016-07-20T22:27:10 < Laurenceb> iirc 2016-07-20T22:27:18 < scummos> then it's not queued and the slot invocation is synchroneous and your code looks ok 2016-07-20T22:27:23 < Laurenceb> timer triggers a bunch of stuff 2016-07-20T22:27:28 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-20T22:27:49 < scummos> your signals are weird, at least from their name. usually a signal is "something happened", not "some other component should do something about it" 2016-07-20T22:27:54 < scummos> ;) 2016-07-20T22:28:38 < Laurenceb> hmm time to go anyway 2016-07-20T22:28:50 < Laurenceb> 2 days on this shit and no closer to non corrupted passed data :( 2016-07-20T22:29:25 < scummos> did you run it in valgrind? 2016-07-20T22:29:27 < Laurenceb> I'll have to write a debug copypasta version with just +1 -1 datastream or something 2016-07-20T22:29:33 < Laurenceb> then its easier to debug 2016-07-20T22:29:46 < Laurenceb> yeah, nothing obvious, need to run latest version 2016-07-20T22:29:58 < Tectu> the first thing you should do is purchasing a keyboard with a 'space' and 'return' key 2016-07-20T22:30:07 < Tectu> probably you can dickstarter one 2016-07-20T22:30:38 < Laurenceb> bbl 2016-07-20T22:32:52 < Steffanx> here added spaces: http://pastebin.com/PzVM6SfA 2016-07-20T22:37:35 < scummos> that didn't help 2016-07-20T22:37:49 < Steffanx> i know. 2016-07-20T22:37:49 < scummos> * data = data - > right(data - > size() - s); 2016-07-20T22:37:54 < scummos> what the hell did you do to that :D 2016-07-20T22:38:12 < Steffanx> i just googled: C formatter :P 2016-07-20T22:38:24 < scummos> and you found the shittiest one a person could imagine :D 2016-07-20T22:38:28 < Steffanx> first one. 2016-07-20T22:38:31 < scummos> clang-format or so would do nicely 2016-07-20T22:39:26 < Tectu> and the next thing we all have incomplete apples drawn on our computers 2016-07-20T22:40:05 < Steffanx> tectu is jealous. 2016-07-20T22:40:35 < scummos> would certainly be better than this ^ 2016-07-20T22:44:53 < kakimir> I wonder how long it takes that phone app asks children and child minded to sneak in military bases and point camera to different directions 2016-07-20T22:45:41 < kakimir> or closed corporate areas 2016-07-20T22:46:33 < Steffanx> child minded.. does that sound familiar kakimir? 2016-07-20T22:46:55 < Tectu> LOL! 2016-07-20T22:51:00 < karlp> BrainDamage: when you say "flexibility" of a manual, do you just mean the ability to select a different ratio at will? I thought all CVTs would be computer controlled anyway, so you'd be able to just select a different "gearing" on the fly anyway? are we not enough in the future yet? 2016-07-20T22:56:48 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-20T22:58:57 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T23:00:14 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-20T23:00:35 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T23:00:39 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-20T23:01:13 < kakimir> http://fi1.eu.apcdn.com/full/147293.png that doesn't look like baltic sea by it's color.. computer magics?.. 2016-07-20T23:02:09 < Fleck> can give you todays photo of baltics sea 2016-07-20T23:03:24 < kakimir> *baltic archipelago I meant 2016-07-20T23:03:52 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/a/lMd1n 2016-07-20T23:05:49 < Steffanx> lol photo of video -_- 2016-07-20T23:06:14 < Fleck> yeah, thumbnail 2016-07-20T23:06:57 < Fleck> video is boring anyway, me and my son jumpin on waves :p 2016-07-20T23:07:50 < kakimir> http://imgur.com/gallery/QDno5 next in viral list.. finnish army girls 2016-07-20T23:08:07 < Fleck> ;p 2016-07-20T23:10:38 < kakimir> imgur wants my time 2016-07-20T23:11:05 < kakimir> calming gifs, pixel art gifs 2016-07-20T23:11:30 < kakimir> http://imgur.com/gallery/mWLI2 2016-07-20T23:34:14 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-20T23:39:39 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqqsnjsaqbvtwvoi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-20T23:40:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Thu Jul 21 2016 2016-07-21T00:04:13 < Rob235> thats cool 2016-07-21T00:04:25 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alqmtqysgichdchv] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T00:05:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-07-21T00:05:37 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28wjgtgwvhio5an.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T00:11:40 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/ta_b3twaKzA 2016-07-21T00:15:00 -!- __rob [~rob@5.80.66.138] has quit [] 2016-07-21T00:40:21 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-21T00:48:23 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T00:53:24 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-07-21T00:53:48 < Tectu> not much, blogging 2016-07-21T00:54:01 < Tectu> and assbergering about UK people 2016-07-21T00:54:23 < Laurenceb__> may you have children 2016-07-21T00:54:42 < Laurenceb__> and may they grow up to be sjws, and fap to cuck porn 2016-07-21T00:56:09 < Tectu> is sjws some sort of (in)official abbrevation for swiss jew? :D 2016-07-21T00:57:32 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, it's just that UK people/companies seem to love doing the three-folded A4 paper format letter. All letters I get form UK companies are like that. I totally hate that 2016-07-21T00:57:43 < Tectu> two-folded, that is, into three sections 2016-07-21T00:57:52 < Tectu> sane people fold once. 2016-07-21T00:57:53 < Laurenceb__> heh thats standard here 2016-07-21T00:58:11 < Tectu> yeah 2016-07-21T00:58:18 < Tectu> as I said, assburgering about UK people :D 2016-07-21T00:58:40 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Moot 2016-07-21T00:59:10 < Laurenceb__> typical uk stuff http://www.britmethod.co/?id=f48151&sub=w48LLLL24RJ5NLCUGP2NM4FO 2016-07-21T01:00:31 < Tectu> you know that something is legit when an alert-box with "are you sure that you want to leave this page?" shows up when you want to close the corresponding website. 2016-07-21T01:08:05 < Laurenceb__> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1468983611426-0.jpg 2016-07-21T01:09:06 < Tectu> stop posting shit and get your horse GUI done 2016-07-21T01:10:23 < BrainDamage> sometimes i wonder if luarenceb is so used to post crap he'll end up accidentally slip some in his work 2016-07-21T01:10:35 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-21T01:11:08 < BrainDamage> 2016-07-21T01:13:53 < Laurenceb__> it's been known to happen 2016-07-21T01:18:12 < karlp> running CircuitMaker on Linux natively using WINE. 2016-07-21T01:18:21 < karlp> not sure they really should be using native there 2016-07-21T01:19:00 < BrainDamage> karlp: re cvt: most cvt i saw were automatic, with horrible throttle response, computer controlled would be nice, still talking about future things tought 2016-07-21T01:19:26 < karlp> thanks for the feedback. 2016-07-21T01:20:08 < Tectu> karlp, do you have any experiences with CircuitMaker? 2016-07-21T01:20:18 < Tectu> ah wait, I was thinking about CircuitStudio 2016-07-21T01:20:19 < Tectu> damn 2016-07-21T01:20:52 < BrainDamage> if they really want, wine actually has a lib you can link to to let your program run native 2016-07-21T01:20:54 < karlp> Tectu: just quoting form some email spam 2016-07-21T01:20:56 < BrainDamage> it wraps the calls permanently 2016-07-21T01:21:30 < karlp> Tectu: what's circuitstudio? 2016-07-21T01:22:59 < Tectu> altium w/o keyboard shortcuts but w/ ribbon 2016-07-21T01:23:06 < Tectu> karlp, http://www.circuitstudio.com/ 2016-07-21T01:23:23 < Tectu> karlp, I think it's circuitmaker for people that want to spend 1k for semi-altium but not 8k for full-alitum 2016-07-21T01:41:59 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-21T01:44:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-21T01:53:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T01:53:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T02:16:46 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-172-28.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T03:04:06 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-21T03:05:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T03:35:30 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:5553:2557:6588:be4d] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-21T03:43:25 < dongs> Many open source hardware developers are also into using open source software - and Linux is often the operating system of choice. While we work on a big project to make Altium software cross-platform, here's a solution that we've tested and which works very well - running CircuitMaker on Linux natively using WINE 2016-07-21T03:43:30 < dongs> fucking wat 2016-07-21T03:44:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-21T03:49:00 < Laurenceb__> linux is a hacker os 2016-07-21T03:49:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-21T03:51:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T03:53:47 < Rob235> if using dma is it good practice to enable/disable the timer associated with it or is it fine to just keep it running the whole time 2016-07-21T04:10:38 < Rob235> crt you have any idea about my question? 2016-07-21T04:14:10 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-21T04:15:54 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-171-121.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T04:33:03 < emeb> latest foolishness -> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/radio/iceRadio/index.html 2016-07-21T04:36:59 < emeb> cheapo LCD from china ebay 2016-07-21T04:39:04 < emeb> radio receiver. RF -> ADC -> FPGA -> MCU -> audio 2016-07-21T04:39:51 < emeb> 0 - 20MHz 2016-07-21T04:40:05 < emeb> AM / shortwave / amateur 2016-07-21T04:40:15 < emeb> to prove I could do it in that cheap FPGA 2016-07-21T04:48:40 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-21T05:02:02 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.16.4] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-21T05:09:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T05:11:56 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.196.183.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T05:18:29 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T05:27:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.196.183.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-21T05:37:05 < englishman> I have an inane ontopic question that I didn't look up earlier cuz its kind of useless and didn't really matter to me at the time 2016-07-21T05:37:30 < englishman> Are there any stm32 with true open drain? That don't have pushpull available as an option 2016-07-21T05:39:32 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@106.66.215.79] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T05:44:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@106.66.215.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-21T05:45:16 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.196.183.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T05:48:17 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-21T05:48:48 < brianx> englishman: there is the ability to use a pullup with no drive attached. 2016-07-21T05:49:38 < englishman> yeah, but that's just half of the pushpull output 2016-07-21T05:49:52 < englishman> I mean, are there any pins with no nfet 2016-07-21T05:50:01 < englishman> In any stm32 2016-07-21T05:50:08 < englishman> Errr. Pfet 2016-07-21T05:50:14 < brianx> no, the pushpull is disconnected and a pullup is connected. not open collector though. 2016-07-21T05:50:27 < brianx> (or pull down on some) 2016-07-21T05:50:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-21T05:51:56 < englishman> Right. Typical stm32 output 2016-07-21T05:52:04 < englishman> Are there any that don't have that 2016-07-21T05:53:07 < brianx> no clue. 2016-07-21T06:01:43 < brianx> he's right, you can make an OC output if your chip doesn't have one. 2016-07-21T06:03:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T06:08:10 < englishman> I haven't but isn't amd dying 2016-07-21T06:16:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-21T06:18:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T06:22:56 < Rob235> how long should you stress test a flight controller? like just leaving it running overnight to make sure the program doesn't crash 2016-07-21T06:28:24 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-21T06:30:00 < Rob235> 8 2016-07-21T06:32:08 < englishman> how fast is a car 2016-07-21T06:32:56 < englishman> trabant fast 2016-07-21T06:40:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-21T06:57:18 < ReadError> CIRCUITMAKER IS AVAIL ON UBUNTU 2016-07-21T06:59:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.196.183.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-21T07:06:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:60b4:ba2e:883b:d38] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T07:25:55 < brianx> right. /me wines about it. 2016-07-21T07:29:55 < brianx> circuitmaker.com, you know you want to crt. 2016-07-21T07:36:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T07:44:33 < PaulFertser> Rob235: to make sure flight controller is any good, it needs to be written like this: http://smaccmpilot.org/ 2016-07-21T07:51:01 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T07:53:35 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-21T07:54:27 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-21T08:03:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T08:04:40 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-21T08:06:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-07-21T08:06:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T08:06:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-07-21T08:07:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T08:08:46 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-21T08:10:58 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T08:16:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-21T08:21:29 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T08:28:58 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T08:43:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T08:56:10 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-171-121.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-07-21T09:10:55 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-171-121.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T09:12:49 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - 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I can't figure it out clearly 2016-07-21T11:10:25 < Fleck> google first thing you see: EABI stands for Embedded ABI, which is the definition of the Application Binary Interface for certain targets (e.g. PPC). 2016-07-21T11:11:16 < Ecco> ok 2016-07-21T11:11:25 < Ecco> Here's my issue 2016-07-21T11:11:43 < Ecco> Im building code using clang and target=thumbv7em-unknown-eabi 2016-07-21T11:11:56 < Ecco> for some reason, clang decides it's OK to insert calls to aeabi_memcpy 2016-07-21T11:12:10 < Ecco> where do this come from? 2016-07-21T11:15:27 < dekar> Ecco, you want want to check out: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ihi0042f/IHI0042F_aapcs.pdf 2016-07-21T11:17:47 < Ecco> dekar: I'm not sure this answers my questions 2016-07-21T11:18:21 < Ecco> that doc explains how procedure calls work 2016-07-21T11:18:28 < Ecco> but it doesn't talk about aeabi_memcpy 2016-07-21T11:18:53 < Ecco> I think what' Im looking for is this 2016-07-21T11:18:56 < Ecco> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0491i/CHDJCHCF.html 2016-07-21T11:19:32 < dekar> Ecco, you were talking about EABI. We had to learn AAPCS at university to make our assembly play nice with C functions, by implementing the same ABI. 2016-07-21T11:20:03 < Ecco> Indeed, that makes sense 2016-07-21T11:20:23 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T11:20:26 < Ecco> My issue is actually that clang emits calls to __aeabi_memcpy 2016-07-21T11:20:40 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-21T11:20:40 < Ecco> and I don't know why 2016-07-21T11:22:55 < dekar> I haven't used clang for ARM. But I guess it expects the C library to provide memcpy using that symbol. 2016-07-21T11:23:21 < dekar> Which C library are you using? 2016-07-21T11:24:59 < dekar> Ecco, http://sushihangover.github.io/arm-cortex-m3-bare-metal-with-newlib/ 2016-07-21T11:25:36 < dekar> Haven't tried that, but it looks like they did what you want. 2016-07-21T11:25:52 < Ecco> Yeah, but I'm trying to understand what's going on 2016-07-21T11:26:16 < Ecco> Namely, why the compiler insert function calls to __aeabi_memcpy where I clearly didn't write it myself 2016-07-21T11:29:15 < dekar> Show us some code. 2016-07-21T11:31:38 < dekar> "thumbv7em-unknown-eabi" wouldn't that mean unknown operating system? 2016-07-21T11:32:52 < dekar> Maybe clang is trying to implement some kind of support/startup-code using memcpy. 2016-07-21T11:34:06 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-21T11:34:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T11:37:28 < Ecco> Apparently using gnueabi transforms the call to __aeabi_memcpy to just memcpy 2016-07-21T11:38:15 < dekar> If you compile an empty function, does clang still add memcpy? 2016-07-21T11:38:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.87] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T11:41:56 < Ecco> no 2016-07-21T11:42:02 < Ecco> Only in some specific cases 2016-07-21T11:42:08 < Ecco> ok I've found the doc 2016-07-21T11:42:08 < Ecco> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ihi0043d/IHI0043D_rtabi.pdf 2016-07-21T12:09:12 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-21T12:18:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-21T12:19:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T12:20:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T12:44:43 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28wjgtgwvhio5an.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-21T12:48:52 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-21T12:54:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T13:01:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T13:14:46 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-21T13:15:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-21T13:16:06 < Tectu> sup dongs 2016-07-21T13:23:43 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T13:27:17 < Steffanx> The sky. Such stupid question tectu. 2016-07-21T13:42:07 < Rob235> damnit pid just work 2016-07-21T13:50:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T13:57:39 < ReadError> hey Rob235 2016-07-21T13:57:47 < ReadError> remember when i was like 2016-07-21T13:57:54 < ReadError> quit dicking with LEDs 2016-07-21T13:57:56 < ReadError> ;p 2016-07-21T13:58:04 < Rob235> I do :) 2016-07-21T13:58:20 < Rob235> and I listened 2016-07-21T14:11:47 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T14:12:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-21T14:15:58 < Rob235> pid seems to work, have to play around with constants for a while though 2016-07-21T14:21:07 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/BUtj2 2016-07-21T14:22:09 < Tectu> since when does paint have an API to do GUIs? 2016-07-21T14:22:37 < Rob235> is that in response to my own comment a day or two ago or do we just think alike 2016-07-21T14:23:40 < Tectu> hah, definitely the latter. I can't remember having read anything from you for quite a while. 2016-07-21T14:23:50 < Rob235> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta_b3twaKzA 2016-07-21T14:23:56 < Rob235> check out the vid, it actually works well 2016-07-21T14:24:09 < Tectu> wait 2016-07-21T14:24:09 < Tectu> wut 2016-07-21T14:24:11 < Tectu> processing 2016-07-21T14:24:12 < Tectu> why? 2016-07-21T14:24:20 < Rob235> why not? 2016-07-21T14:24:24 < Rob235> it does exactly what I need 2016-07-21T14:24:43 < Tectu> what's up with that top-left corner thingy? 2016-07-21T14:24:56 < Rob235> it represents the 4 leds on the discovery board 2016-07-21T14:25:04 < Rob235> if you read the youtube description it explains what they are doing 2016-07-21T14:25:12 < Tectu> -_- 2016-07-21T14:25:14 < Tectu> okay 2016-07-21T14:25:20 < Tectu> well, it seems well done indeed 2016-07-21T14:25:28 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-21T14:26:02 < Tectu> but that thing on the left side confuses me 2016-07-21T14:26:07 < Tectu> is this a quad or is this a plane? 2016-07-21T14:26:11 < Tectu> copter*, not quad. 2016-07-21T14:26:36 < Rob235> its a hexacopter but I just stole that 3d model from the processing teapot demo 2016-07-21T14:26:52 < Tectu> tea pot == plane??? -_- 2016-07-21T14:27:05 < Rob235> easier to see orientation on a plane like that vs a symmetrical copter 2016-07-21T14:27:25 < Rob235> it was originally a teapot 3d model that showed orientation until they changed it to a plane but the name stuck I guess 2016-07-21T14:28:01 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-21T14:28:03 < Tectu> okay :) 2016-07-21T14:28:05 < Tectu> well I gotta go now 2016-07-21T14:28:28 < Rob235> it wasn't my choice hah I didn't write the teapot demo 2016-07-21T14:30:15 < Tectu> I wonder if my op allows me to move Rob235 from ##stm32 to #tarduino 2016-07-21T14:30:38 < Rob235> why 2016-07-21T14:31:26 < BrainDamage> he wants to fullfill his secret rape fantasies 2016-07-21T14:31:54 < BrainDamage> you'll get hundreds of modules shoved in every orifice 2016-07-21T14:33:13 < BrainDamage> also, did you just use pressure in hPa and temp in °F? :/ 2016-07-21T14:33:54 < Rob235> pressure sensor isn't even hooked up to the drone, I just added the gauge for when I add the sensor back on in the future 2016-07-21T14:34:01 < Rob235> so I just picked a random unit 2016-07-21T14:36:20 < Rob235> I make something that works and looks cool (in my opinion, even though it looks like it was drawn in paint :P ) and I get sent away to the tards :( 2016-07-21T14:37:07 < BrainDamage> welcome to the internet, you must be new 2016-07-21T14:37:47 < jadew> man... is all media in the US extremely biased one way or another? 2016-07-21T14:38:25 < Steffanx> Where is the news not biased? 2016-07-21T14:38:27 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-21T14:38:31 < Steffanx> Media* 2016-07-21T14:38:58 < jadew> Steffanx, there are some that stick to the points 2016-07-21T14:39:59 < jadew> a little bias it's normal, it's a human thing in the end, but all interviews on US news channels seem not only biased, but rude towards the person they're interviewing 2016-07-21T14:40:10 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-21T14:40:23 < jadew> it's hard to even call them interviews, they're like vicious attacks 2016-07-21T14:40:28 < BrainDamage> well, while it's true all media is biased, they tend to be more like selective in terms of what they chose to display and try to be somewhat subtle, instead you won't be surprised by mainstream us media seeing headlines like "obama is an alien" 2016-07-21T14:40:50 < jadew> heh 2016-07-21T14:43:25 < Chris_M> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YBwDNfOaxU 2016-07-21T14:44:19 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T14:46:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T14:51:12 < jadew> I thought it's going to be something nice 2016-07-21T15:00:10 < ReadError> well we know who they will attack next 2016-07-21T15:11:47 < mitrax> HI 2016-07-21T15:18:42 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_359831.html 2016-07-21T15:18:47 < ReadError> its on sale buy it 2016-07-21T15:18:48 < mitrax> crt: i'm a one armed duck fucker 2016-07-21T15:19:47 < ReadError> nah they are well respected 2016-07-21T15:24:48 < mitrax> what do you guys recommended for a 1TO SSD in the $300-380 range? 2016-07-21T15:26:14 < mitrax> i was thinking either kingston KC400 or samsung evo 850... 2016-07-21T15:26:58 < ReadError> i stick to samsung 2016-07-21T15:27:00 < ReadError> or intel 2016-07-21T15:27:10 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-133-151.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T15:29:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-171-121.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T15:34:57 < mitrax> dead? 2016-07-21T15:35:17 < mitrax> that sucks 2016-07-21T15:36:09 < mitrax> i'll go for the samsung evo 850, it's much cheaper 2016-07-21T15:36:21 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-21T15:36:25 -!- timemob [~dongs@p81070-ipngn200202okayamahigasi.okayama.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T15:36:32 < timemob> sup doges 2016-07-21T15:37:59 < timemob> ordered 24hr turn PCB earlier today 2016-07-21T15:38:02 < timemob> $320 2016-07-21T15:41:01 < timemob> wut 2016-07-21T15:41:13 < timemob> cypress bought spansion? 2016-07-21T15:41:29 < timemob> and WiFi bits from broadscum? 2016-07-21T15:44:05 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T15:45:04 < Steffanx> Cypress and spansion merged ages ago.. 2016-07-21T15:45:34 < timemob> He explained that Broadcom was good at serving large customers, a profile not exactly compatible with the IoT community. Typically, the still fledgling IoT market attracts a host of smaller customers willing to try different connectivity projects and products. Broadcom proved to be a little too broad to reach those potential customers 2016-07-21T15:45:51 < timemob> lol 2016-07-21T15:47:00 < timemob> didn't know, maybe cypress will opensores wiced now. 2016-07-21T15:50:08 < timemob> my small MCUs already have USB 2016-07-21T15:50:43 < timemob> i don't need some expensive external shit 2016-07-21T15:53:43 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T15:54:16 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-159-86-171.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-21T15:54:39 < timemob> fgt 2016-07-21T16:03:01 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_366735.html 2016-07-21T16:03:10 < ReadError> ordered one of these, so kawaii 2016-07-21T16:04:09 < ReadError> well ya we on that grown man shit 2016-07-21T16:05:12 < ReadError> i couldnt find a good deal on RCR123A 2016-07-21T16:05:26 < ReadError> so I ended up getting 16 of them + nitecore charger for 100 bux 2016-07-21T16:06:04 < ReadError> nitecore shit sux 2016-07-21T16:06:21 < ReadError> eh they work 2016-07-21T16:06:24 < ReadError> but super slow 2016-07-21T16:06:28 < ReadError> 375mA 2016-07-21T16:06:35 < ReadError> if you have it loaded up 2016-07-21T16:09:08 < timemob> .. 2016-07-21T16:09:23 < ReadError> oh sorry back to talking about timemob, carryon 2016-07-21T16:09:42 < timemob> anyone else getting Pokemon in auto complete in Google search 2016-07-21T16:09:56 < timemob> for "what is" 2016-07-21T16:10:11 < ReadError> ah those little usb shits 2016-07-21T16:10:18 < ReadError> flyback they got em w/ OLEDs and stuff 2016-07-21T16:10:50 < timemob> right 2016-07-21T16:11:52 < timemob> still no Pokémon in Japan 2016-07-21T16:11:56 < timemob> I'm bummed 2016-07-21T16:12:35 < ReadError> i made an account just to register PokieUrMoms 2016-07-21T16:13:58 < BrainDamage> since apparently pokemon types are tied to landmarks, what kind of pokemons spawn near minefields? 2016-07-21T16:14:44 < carabia> Allahmon? 2016-07-21T16:16:58 < timemob> radioactivemon 2016-07-21T16:17:38 < timemob> time to sleep 2016-07-21T16:17:42 -!- timemob [~dongs@p81070-ipngn200202okayamahigasi.okayama.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-07-21T16:19:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.146] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T16:33:23 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-130-33.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T16:35:46 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-133-151.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T16:36:15 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_226805.html?wid=8 2016-07-21T16:36:18 < ReadError> 89$ domestic 2016-07-21T16:36:21 < ReadError> im half fucking tempted 2016-07-21T16:41:34 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-21T16:42:37 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/FJlAcEL.jpg 2016-07-21T16:43:42 < ReadError> makes you wonder how it made it to the shelve 2016-07-21T16:43:48 < ReadError> like, nobody was like, wtf 2016-07-21T16:47:54 < englishman> found Laurenceb https://i.imgur.com/LEGv13E.png 2016-07-21T16:55:27 < Rob235> hmm, leds stopped animating after 30 min to an hour, added some checks to be able to determine whats causing it but sucks waiting for it to crash again 2016-07-21T16:55:52 < ReadError> r u overflow? 2016-07-21T16:55:59 < emeryth> overclock the CPU 2016-07-21T16:56:13 < Rob235> I don't think so, I think its a dma issue 2016-07-21T16:56:57 < Rob235> everything else keeps running so it must just be failing a check in the loop to go onto the next frame when something occurs 2016-07-21T16:58:06 < Rob235> I have a variable that holds if the dma is active but I should just check the dma status flag... 2016-07-21T17:22:09 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2016-07-21T17:22:14 < Laurenceb> damn you found my photo 2016-07-21T17:33:26 < Rob235> crash crash crash 2016-07-21T17:33:42 < Rob235> been a half hour 2016-07-21T17:37:26 < Laurenceb> http://www.thecrowdfundingcenter.com/?page=project&id=001BFX 2016-07-21T17:37:40 < Laurenceb> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/donald-trump-may-win-send-me-back-to-africa#/ 2016-07-21T17:38:55 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-21T17:40:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T18:05:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T18:07:29 < Rob235> ReadError: you were right, it was an overflow 2016-07-21T18:08:22 < ReadError> counting systicks or someting? 2016-07-21T18:10:13 < Rob235> yup 2016-07-21T18:11:04 < Rob235> i remember thinking in the beginning that the drone will never run over an hour so I shouldn't waste my time checking... I fixed it heh 2016-07-21T18:11:26 < Rob235> gonna run it overnight tonight and see how it goes 2016-07-21T18:14:51 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T18:16:51 < Shavik> So I have two identical devices hardware wise. Firmwares are the same just with micro switches so one performs as a master while the other a slave. The Master station though won't "boot" without the STLinkv2 connected. 2016-07-21T18:17:17 < Shavik> It just flashes it's LED's like it has a shorted out power or maybe over current. 2016-07-21T18:17:53 < Shavik> Which worried me at first but connecting the stlink back to the target, then plugging in usb to the target allows it to boot right up. It's set to use usb power and not be self powered 2016-07-21T18:20:20 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T18:24:38 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-21T18:31:10 < Shavik> figured it out I think 2016-07-21T18:31:50 < Shavik> Since the fab didn't actually put my usb port's slots in and the assemblers just clipped the through hole tab leads to make them mount on what was now surface mount, that through hole slot was gonna connect usb to ground 2016-07-21T18:32:27 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-21T18:33:57 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T18:34:33 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-21T18:34:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-21T18:36:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T18:41:25 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T19:00:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T19:12:24 < ReadError> https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/sogvkaI3 2016-07-21T19:12:35 < ReadError> https://oshpark.com/profiles/OpenPanzer 2016-07-21T19:12:35 < ReadError> nuts 2016-07-21T19:12:54 < englishman> gross 2016-07-21T19:13:30 < englishman> >atmel 2016-07-21T19:13:31 < englishman> >ftdi 2016-07-21T19:13:32 < englishman> >eagle 2016-07-21T19:13:39 < ReadError> too much work for a tank controller 2016-07-21T19:15:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-21T19:26:07 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-21T19:26:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T19:34:13 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: trepidacious] 2016-07-21T19:35:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-21T19:42:28 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA8SI_KvqI 2016-07-21T19:55:12 < Rob235> 90 minutes and no hangs 2016-07-21T19:57:39 < Steffanx> PROcessing sw? 2016-07-21T19:58:13 < Rob235> yes but I meant my flight controller mostly 2016-07-21T19:59:21 < Steffanx> tell Laurenceb to go processing :P 2016-07-21T19:59:23 < Rob235> thats what the processing dashboard was meant to test 2016-07-21T19:59:44 < Rob235> pid is working now too, just have to figure out constants 2016-07-21T19:59:51 < Laurenceb> "just" 2016-07-21T20:00:10 < Laurenceb> this seems to work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziegler%E2%80%93Nichols_method 2016-07-21T20:00:24 < Laurenceb> but for me it's always given suboptimal results 2016-07-21T20:00:52 < Rob235> does it give a good starting point at least? 2016-07-21T20:02:28 < BrainDamage> nobody ever got ZN to work 2016-07-21T20:02:47 < Laurenceb> wut 2016-07-21T20:02:54 < Laurenceb> obviously doing it wrong 2016-07-21T20:03:12 < Laurenceb> it's worked very well for me, but given lame performance 2016-07-21T20:03:19 < BrainDamage> well, that's the thing 2016-07-21T20:03:28 < BrainDamage> it's supposed to give the fastest 2016-07-21T20:03:32 < BrainDamage> but it doesn't 2016-07-21T20:03:38 < Laurenceb> sometime horribly lame and slow is preferable to oscillating 2016-07-21T20:03:53 < BrainDamage> it doesn't give highest phase margin 2016-07-21T20:03:58 < BrainDamage> it gives the shortest transition time 2016-07-21T20:04:09 < Laurenceb> hmm 2016-07-21T20:04:29 < Laurenceb> I'm sure I've managed to get shorter transition times through manual timing 2016-07-21T20:04:35 < BrainDamage> exactly 2016-07-21T20:04:42 < BrainDamage> so you didn't get ZN to work either 2016-07-21T20:04:46 < Laurenceb> maybe some weird nonlinearities and stuff in real world situations 2016-07-21T20:04:48 < Laurenceb> haha 2016-07-21T20:04:52 < Laurenceb> yeah I guess 2016-07-21T20:11:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T20:11:39 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T20:12:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-21T20:17:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T20:18:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-21T20:19:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T20:29:32 < Laurenceb> wow 64k 2016-07-21T20:29:34 < Laurenceb> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m 2016-07-21T20:49:50 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-21T20:52:58 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T20:53:05 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn56iQrUEAEDGUc.jpg 2016-07-21T20:53:14 < Laurenceb> irony much 2016-07-21T21:06:40 < carabia> Indeed, and oh how the jews are so oppressed yet pitiful and peaceful. 2016-07-21T21:07:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:2882:5dea:8a14:3aa0] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T21:08:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T21:08:19 < carabia> actually, oppressed and pitiful yet peaceful 2016-07-21T21:25:53 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-21T21:31:21 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ac2d2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T21:33:37 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-21T21:39:44 < Laurenceb> arg freaking Qt 2016-07-21T21:40:00 < Laurenceb> sort of working but using 21% cpu at 20fps 2016-07-21T21:40:17 < Laurenceb> time to use uGFX on F7 discovery 2016-07-21T21:42:57 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T21:45:09 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrDkegrY1o musics times 2016-07-21T21:45:18 < kakimir> bass alert 2016-07-21T21:45:33 < Laurenceb> lame alert 2016-07-21T21:45:40 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-21T21:50:00 < kakimir> old alert 2016-07-21T21:53:42 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25D8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-21T22:20:36 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T22:26:35 < Steffanx> crap alert. 2016-07-21T22:27:45 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cebFWOlx848 new veritasium 2016-07-21T22:28:48 < Fleck> on point Steffanx... :D 2016-07-21T22:29:01 < Fleck> crap alert.... new veritasium... :P 2016-07-21T22:30:51 < kakimir> my urls are a mere provocation to you to reveal better urls 2016-07-21T22:31:56 < Laurenceb> fucking video blogs man 2016-07-21T22:31:59 < Laurenceb> cancer 2016-07-21T22:32:31 < Steffanx> says he. 2016-07-21T22:34:24 < kakimir> how about those pop science formats that release crap every day to make ad moneys? 2016-07-21T22:34:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T22:36:46 < Steffanx> you're funny Laurenceb. Complains about videos, and refuse to read Qt docs. 2016-07-21T22:47:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T22:55:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-21T23:07:28 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T23:18:56 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T23:19:09 < Tectu> scummos, ping 2016-07-21T23:19:14 < scummos> yo Tectu 2016-07-21T23:19:22 < carabia> kakimir isn't that what veritasium is 2016-07-21T23:19:25 < Tectu> ASSERT failure in QEvent: "Impossible, this can't happen: QEventPrivate isn't defined anywhere", file kernel\qcoreevent.cpp, line 337 2016-07-21T23:19:27 < Tectu> scummos, ^ 2016-07-21T23:19:34 < Tectu> very impossible indeed... :D 2016-07-21T23:19:46 < scummos> haha what did you do 2016-07-21T23:19:53 < Tectu> I have no idea man 2016-07-21T23:20:06 < Tectu> but it seems to be seriously fucked up 2016-07-21T23:20:10 < Tectu> just before that assert it outputs: 2016-07-21T23:20:10 < Tectu> QCoreApplication::removePostedEvent: Event of type 154 deleted while posted to QWindowsGuiEventDispatcher QWindowsGuiEventDispatcher 2016-07-21T23:20:12 < Tectu> :D 2016-07-21T23:20:21 < scummos> have the code somewhere? 2016-07-21T23:20:22 < Tectu> looks like even shit got fucked 2016-07-21T23:20:34 < Tectu> yes, but don't worry. I am just starting to debug now. I am not lost yet ;) 2016-07-21T23:20:39 < Tectu> just wanted to share the fun of the impossible thingy 2016-07-21T23:21:09 < scummos> :D 2016-07-21T23:21:47 < scummos> it looks like it happens when you have an event with a null dpointer 2016-07-21T23:21:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-21T23:22:05 < scummos> no wait, other way round 2016-07-21T23:22:09 < scummos> *shrug* 2016-07-21T23:22:14 < scummos> good luck :D 2016-07-21T23:22:17 < Tectu> thanks :D 2016-07-21T23:22:26 < Tectu> I've seen a lot of weird shit, but that is new... 2016-07-21T23:24:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T23:25:49 < kakimir> carabia: production quality and not every single day new videos 2016-07-21T23:26:53 < kakimir> but yes 2016-07-21T23:28:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T23:28:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-21T23:29:44 < kakimir> difference is that those producers flood produce their click collecting mesh of hudreds of videos that quality/content comes second to 2016-07-21T23:32:22 < kakimir> i think it's what "cancer" means in this context 2016-07-21T23:36:17 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T23:36:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-21T23:36:49 < Rob235> 5 hours no crashing, good to go 2016-07-21T23:39:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-21T23:39:28 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-21T23:39:49 < Tectu> can processing stuff even crash? 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:) 2016-07-22T02:18:06 < englishman> he went outside and died. 2016-07-22T02:30:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-22T02:45:59 < carabia> How's it vapin' 2016-07-22T02:49:10 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28uu43jzxnd9ew4.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T02:49:40 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alqmtqysgichdchv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-22T02:51:36 < Rob235> OvO 2016-07-22T02:52:58 < Rob235> tired 2016-07-22T03:14:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:18:13 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:20:13 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T03:20:13 < dongs> http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2949999/satellite-p25w-c2300-touchpad-sticks-freezes-refuses-respond.html fucking japs 2016-07-22T03:21:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T03:23:40 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-22T03:36:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:37:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-22T03:38:20 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T03:39:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:43:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T03:43:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:50:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:2882:5dea:8a14:3aa0] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T03:54:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T03:54:34 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:55:40 < englishman> what's the problem 2016-07-22T03:57:31 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T03:57:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T03:59:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T03:59:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:00:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:01:41 < upgrdman> with an FFT, i know the bin size is 1/windowLength, but is the frequency range always 0 to sampleRate/2, or does the bin size come into play? 2016-07-22T04:02:10 < BrainDamage> it doesn't 2016-07-22T04:02:40 < BrainDamage> increasing samples only subdivides the space 2016-07-22T04:03:18 < BrainDamage> which is why the noise power spectral density goes down as you increase the sample count 2016-07-22T04:03:40 < BrainDamage> same power, but subdivided in more bins -> less power per bin 2016-07-22T04:04:41 < upgrdman> nice. thanks 2016-07-22T04:05:17 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28uu43jzxnd9ew4.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-22T04:05:58 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28uu43jzxnd9ew4.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:06:53 < upgrdman> and if i only want to look at a subset of the frequency range, i need the starting freq to be (mod binSize) to prevent uh... aliasing isn't the right word. but looking at the wrong locations... ? 2016-07-22T04:07:42 < upgrdman> err a multiple of binSize, not mod 2016-07-22T04:07:57 < upgrdman> err n*binSize. f me 2016-07-22T04:09:14 < BrainDamage> if you just want a narrow range of freqs, depending how many they are, there can be more efficient algos, like goertzel's 2016-07-22T04:10:39 < BrainDamage> remember also you can do an heterodyne in dsp where you multiply by a complex side to downcovert a portion of the spectrum, fir lowpass it, and then fft on the chunk of the spectrum with higher resolution 2016-07-22T04:11:01 < BrainDamage> ( which is what several high end spectrum analyzers do to do high res view ) 2016-07-22T04:11:34 < BrainDamage> re, the starting freq: yes 2016-07-22T04:11:48 < BrainDamage> you get get the integrated power over the whole freq bin 2016-07-22T04:11:55 < BrainDamage> from where it starts to where it ends 2016-07-22T04:12:01 < BrainDamage> ideally you want it aligned 2016-07-22T04:12:17 < BrainDamage> but even if you have some tollerance, generally it's not a big deal 2016-07-22T04:12:23 < BrainDamage> the samples are already distorted 2016-07-22T04:12:44 < BrainDamage> remember that fft using a finite amount of samples is only a rought approx of a real DFT 2016-07-22T04:13:17 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:13:37 < BrainDamage> and it's why all the windowing bullshit 2016-07-22T04:14:31 -!- brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T04:15:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T04:18:09 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T04:18:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:23:57 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:27:20 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:28:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-22T04:28:43 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T04:29:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:32:34 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:32:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T04:34:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:35:05 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T04:36:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T04:37:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:42:44 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:45:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T04:53:21 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T04:56:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T05:08:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T05:17:03 < upgrdman_> is java server-side-scripting ("jsp" iirc) still a thing? 2016-07-22T05:17:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:79e9:aaf5:5bb2:dcd6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T05:18:49 < boB_K7IQ> necessary evil 2016-07-22T05:21:31 < englishman> delicious 2016-07-22T05:23:00 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-22T05:36:31 < englishman> dongference 2016-07-22T05:42:11 -!- kisielk_ [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-22T05:51:02 < dekar> upgrdman, Java for server side applications is huge, and it's there to stay. Even if they lose the desktop. 2016-07-22T05:51:23 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-22T05:51:43 < upgrdman> i looked at the wiki page, it looks like aids php-style mixing of code + html 2016-07-22T05:52:00 < upgrdman> is there a version that is clean java that like println()'s the html 2016-07-22T05:53:01 < upgrdman> and more importantly, can jsp work with "regular java" ... like libs meant for desktop use 2016-07-22T05:53:30 < dekar> I think one of the biggest advantages of Java is, that it's reasonably safe - even if used by people with less than average skill levels. From my experience many companies deploy that for their behind the scenes business applications. 2016-07-22T05:54:07 < upgrdman> dekar, iirc youre also in cn. know of any fast vpn's? im getting at BEST 4Mbit/s, more often <200KBit/s 2016-07-22T05:54:10 < upgrdman> and the fukken packet losses... omgwtfbbq 2016-07-22T05:55:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-22T05:55:37 < dekar> upgrdman, Shadowsocks is your best bet, though the congestion is a constant issue. 2016-07-22T05:58:28 < dekar> upgrdman, also I think JSP isn't much of a thing anymore. From what I heard people use Enterprise JavaBeans, I don't know details though, not a Java guy. 2016-07-22T06:02:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-22T06:09:38 -!- _brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T06:14:03 -!- _brianx is now known as brianx 2016-07-22T06:15:38 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T06:34:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-22T07:49:43 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T07:53:27 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-22T08:22:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T08:28:44 < kisielk> can't get any respect in this chan 2016-07-22T08:39:14 < englishman> sup canuck 2016-07-22T09:07:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T09:07:28 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T09:10:23 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-22T09:29:04 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-22T09:31:04 < englishman> you could be streaming your mackiebook repairs to youtube and raking in the jewdollars 2016-07-22T09:33:46 < englishman> dollarydoos 2016-07-22T09:38:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T09:38:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T09:39:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T09:41:47 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T09:44:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T10:16:19 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-11.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T10:16:30 < timemob> sup innovators 2016-07-22T10:20:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-22T10:25:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:79e9:aaf5:5bb2:dcd6] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-22T10:31:40 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T10:32:10 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-11.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-07-22T10:52:03 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-22T11:10:52 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T11:12:02 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-22T11:14:37 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T11:47:32 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28uu43jzxnd9ew4.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-22T11:58:51 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T12:32:33 -!- bobryan [~h36sa@freebsd/contributor/bobryan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T12:35:47 -!- bobryan [~h36sa@freebsd/contributor/bobryan] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T12:46:17 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T12:46:39 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-22T12:46:49 < Tectu> do you guys know how it is when you wake up and front of your computer and you see code that you can't remember writing? 2016-07-22T12:47:42 < Ecco> :-D 2016-07-22T12:48:12 < Fleck> no, I don't drink 2016-07-22T12:48:20 < Ecco> I've had the case where I remember writing the code but couldn't understand it 2016-07-22T12:48:27 < Tectu> no alcohol was involved :D 2016-07-22T12:51:21 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T12:51:30 < Fleck> no smoking weed and eating mushrooms too 2016-07-22T13:07:02 < Tectu> hah :p 2016-07-22T13:07:04 < Tectu> I don't do that either. 2016-07-22T13:23:11 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T13:43:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-22T13:47:22 < dongs> Ghostbusters 2016 TS XviD-BiGDADDYVAiN 2016-07-22T13:47:25 < dongs> fuck yes 2016-07-22T13:47:41 < dongs> zyp, your shit is fucking done finally holy shit. enjoy pink led. 2016-07-22T13:47:53 < zyp> cool 2016-07-22T13:48:20 < dongs> email me infoz where to send etc. 2016-07-22T13:48:36 < dongs> unless nochnges from last time. 2016-07-22T13:48:54 < zyp> no changes for my addr 2016-07-22T13:49:17 < zyp> US guy said yes when I asked him if he wanted it sent to a new addr, but he haven't told me the new addr yet 2016-07-22T13:49:51 < dongs> kk 2016-07-22T13:50:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-22T13:50:04 < dongs> youve got till monday anyway, im jerking off at tv conference and generally unreachable anyway. 2016-07-22T13:50:13 < zyp> ah, okay 2016-07-22T13:50:14 < carabia> in every imaginable way this channel is even worse than ##electronics 2016-07-22T13:50:29 < dongs> carabia: you are totally correct. 2016-07-22T13:50:30 < zyp> I'm gonna ask him when he wakes up 2016-07-22T13:50:39 < dongs> carabia: so lets talk about your stm32 projects 2016-07-22T13:50:42 < carabia> i have just come to that realization 2016-07-22T13:51:05 < dongs> i've currently got several, usb->midi with keyboard/leds, and a new display controller 2016-07-22T13:51:07 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-07-22T13:51:08 < dongs> and soon USB charger 2016-07-22T13:51:14 < dongs> aha, so he's just a trolling faggot. 2016-07-22T13:51:30 < zyp> heh 2016-07-22T13:51:50 < dongs> i think i remember he was trolling earlier 2016-07-22T13:52:11 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T14:00:56 < mitrax> maybe ohsix in disguise :) 2016-07-22T14:01:12 < dongs> no 2016-07-22T14:01:14 < dongs> too smart 2016-07-22T14:01:20 < dongs> he actually left quickly. 2016-07-22T14:01:30 < mitrax> ahah 2016-07-22T14:01:35 < dongs> k bbl 2016-07-22T14:01:38 < dongs> enough computers for today 2016-07-22T14:07:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T14:07:51 < Steffanx> Oh6 only stayed to annoy. 2016-07-22T14:22:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:28b1:4b56:9641:5cbf] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T14:23:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T14:41:19 < Lux> ohsix stopped blogging here ? 2016-07-22T14:42:08 < Tectu> oh, I didn't even notice 2016-07-22T14:42:24 < Tectu> probably because 2/3 of the people in here had him on ignore anyway 2016-07-22T14:43:55 < AmarOk_> Question. Can I use acos() and qsort() from C on a STM32F4 Nucleo 64 Board? 2016-07-22T14:44:21 < AmarOk_> Because I use it, it compiles but i've got very strange results. 2016-07-22T14:45:28 < Lux> must have moved on to spam another channel 2016-07-22T14:45:42 < Lux> he was in #multiwii before 2016-07-22T14:46:30 < Tectu> AmarOk_, usually your "embedded C compiler" will bring "embedded target friendly" implementations of those functions. So yes, in general you should be able to use them. Although often discouraged. zyp might know more. 2016-07-22T14:46:54 < Lux> #sigrok it seems =) 2016-07-22T14:47:05 < Tectu> lol Lux :D 2016-07-22T14:49:19 < AmarOk_> Tectu: actually, the function return a good result, but rewrite a buffer used by a variable 2016-07-22T14:49:28 < Lux> you could have allready done that years ago with rfm22 or similar 2016-07-22T14:50:00 < Tectu> AmarOk_, wut? 2016-07-22T14:50:16 < AmarOk_> Tectu: yeap wut 2016-07-22T14:50:31 < BrainDamage> lora modules have 170dB link budget, while it's true other systems exist, nothing out of the box worked like that 2016-07-22T14:50:38 < BrainDamage> for that price at least 2016-07-22T14:52:51 < BrainDamage> that's what she ... didn't say 2016-07-22T14:55:48 < Lux> BrainDamage: they can write a lot on the DS, just the question is how it holds under real circumstances 2016-07-22T14:56:09 < BrainDamage> #highaltitude uses them regularry now 2016-07-22T14:56:26 < Lux> on ISM/SRD frequencies you are mainly limited by the urban noise floor anyway 2016-07-22T14:57:23 < BrainDamage> yes, altought you can get decent noise immunity with directive antennas, altought 433 they ain't small 2016-07-22T14:58:18 < BrainDamage> the sheriff 2016-07-22T15:00:29 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-07-22T15:01:57 < AmarOk_> Tectu: I've got a PCM_Buffer which contains a sound recorded by 4 mics and it's send via USB. At one moment, I compute an angle between 2 values (outside the buffer). 2016-07-22T15:02:20 < AmarOk_> This is what I've got with the line acos(timeDiff/micDist) : https://framadrop.org/r/qxkThKUlMC#FrJ5fGONL1HfIemXnXh6wpSBiNJLbdCJavohw6JApKE= 2016-07-22T15:02:48 < AmarOk_> And this is what I've got when I replace the line with timeDiff/micDist : https://framadrop.org/r/ODOcDsN2FG#t57B1sikD/RV6007Nk7lnUIhz+9BzVJ9jP8cvLMNhSk= 2016-07-22T15:05:06 < AmarOk_> (acos give a good result but I don't understand why it changes my PCM_Buffer) 2016-07-22T15:05:37 < Tectu> C'est un peu difficile t'aide sans un peu de code mec 2016-07-22T15:07:10 < AmarOk_> Tectu: ouai je sais, je peux le donner aussi, j'essaie de résoudre ça a coté 2016-07-22T15:07:18 < AmarOk_> je te fais ça 2016-07-22T15:07:40 < Tectu> Are you actually "The Amarok" guy? 2016-07-22T15:07:53 < Tectu> (KDE Amarok) 2016-07-22T15:11:06 < AmarOk_> nop 2016-07-22T15:18:21 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T15:35:12 < AmarOk_> I think I've got the bug 2016-07-22T15:36:08 < AmarOk_> The board seems to slow. And can't correctly read the PCM_Buffer and then make the treatment... 2016-07-22T15:39:45 < ReadError> "got the bug" = have HIV 2016-07-22T15:41:44 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T15:46:42 < Tectu> jesus, Methworks licensing is such AIDS. Just hat to phone three different people & answer an e-mail questionary on why the fuck I have had to re-activate my methlab license two times per year ALTHOUGH I properly decativated it 2016-07-22T15:55:05 < Tectu> BMCC? 2016-07-22T15:55:20 < Tectu> Also, I still can't activate it. "We have to forward this request to another department" 2016-07-22T15:55:31 < Tectu> ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? I PAY 800.- EVERY YEAR FOR THAT SHIT 2016-07-22T15:55:43 < Steffanx> Rage. 2016-07-22T15:58:39 < ReadError> SMD LMT 2016-07-22T16:00:55 < upgrdman> tectu, considering how they treat their paying customers, why not just get a crack torrent and pocket your money 2016-07-22T16:02:22 < Tectu> upgrdman, I wonder if I should add that to the e-mail that I am currently writing. 2016-07-22T16:02:35 < ReadError> “Laziness is a trait in the blacks. […] Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” - Trump 2016-07-22T16:02:37 < Tectu> upgrdman, currently I got: "I am happy with the license that I pay for every year in order to use your software – which I am currently not able to which is really discouraging, especially because I followed the proper deactivation process. Why would you guys have a deactivation system that allows the license owner to manage his own licenses if you still prevent reinstallations? I now understand why most of m 2016-07-22T16:02:37 < Tectu> y colleagues use cracked versions." 2016-07-22T16:02:51 < upgrdman> yes 2016-07-22T16:02:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-22T16:02:54 < Tectu> upgrdman, the "I am happyw ith the license that I got" part is because they want to upsell to a license that allows more reactivations. 2016-07-22T16:03:31 < ReadError> Tectu tell them you just started the torrent and they can fuckoff 2016-07-22T16:04:06 < Tectu> well I don't want to stretch it too far. I don't want them to permanently ban my crap. I gave them too much money already 2016-07-22T16:04:19 < upgrdman> i wouldnt say colleagues, that could piss your colleagues off. say general public or something like that 2016-07-22T16:04:32 < Tectu> thanks for the tipp! 2016-07-22T16:04:54 < Tectu> upgrdman, "why many people that I know use cracked versions"? 2016-07-22T16:05:35 < ReadError> “Rosie O’Donnell’s disgusting both inside and out. You take a look at her, she’s a slob. She talks like a truck driver, she doesn’t have her facts, she’ll say anything that comes to her mind.” 2016-07-22T16:05:43 < Steffanx> Learn to not capslock. 2016-07-22T16:05:59 < upgrdman> tectu, now it sounds like your part of a bad group. 2016-07-22T16:06:22 < Tectu> upgrdman, how to improve? 2016-07-22T16:06:26 < upgrdman> just say like... a lot of people 2016-07-22T16:06:29 < Tectu> okay! 2016-07-22T16:06:34 < Tectu> you a politician or so? 2016-07-22T16:06:58 < upgrdman> no, just an ee pro troll 2016-07-22T16:15:13 < ReadError> say 'peers' 2016-07-22T16:15:18 < ReadError> its vague enough 2016-07-22T16:16:02 < upgrdman> anyone wanna recommend an atx case that is small and sexy but still atx. no need for 5.25in bays. 2016-07-22T16:16:30 < ReadError> 1u rackmount ? 2016-07-22T16:17:05 < upgrdman> no, need a big vid card. think gtx10x0 series 2016-07-22T16:17:37 < ReadError> ah 2016-07-22T16:17:38 < Tectu> upgrdman, Fractal Design Redefine R5 2016-07-22T16:18:10 < Tectu> there is the midi tower version and a smaller version that still fits ATX boards because the midi tower version is a bit larger than usual 2016-07-22T16:18:21 < Tectu> upgrdman, I have two of those R5, they are fucking awesome 2016-07-22T16:18:28 < Tectu> Steffanx has an R4, the predecessor 2016-07-22T16:18:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-22T16:19:13 < Tectu> upgrdman, should I tell them in the e-mail that I will now have time to blog about this incidence because I can't spend my time working on my MethLab project? 2016-07-22T16:19:28 < upgrdman> mmmm sexy 2016-07-22T16:20:32 < upgrdman> i wouldnt. tjen you spund like a winey bitch thats amking threats 2016-07-22T16:20:43 < upgrdman> i used to work cust serv.... threats got you ignored or lol'd 2016-07-22T16:20:44 < ReadError> upgrdman does your segway roboto work 2016-07-22T16:21:00 < Tectu> sounds sane 2016-07-22T16:21:16 < upgrdman> kinda badly. 2016-07-22T16:21:18 < Tectu> upgrdman, mail sent 2016-07-22T16:21:58 < upgrdman> readerror, im in cn, even brought it with me, but ive been busy making a nice telemetry viewer app to help me with this eobot and future ones 2016-07-22T16:22:25 < upgrdman> cause my old telemetry viewer was shit 2016-07-22T16:22:26 < Tectu> wait, you're a yankee, no? 2016-07-22T16:22:35 < upgrdman> and 2016-07-22T16:22:37 < ReadError> asian american 2016-07-22T16:22:54 < upgrdman> i was too lazy to find a free app that does waht i want 2016-07-22T16:23:20 < upgrdman> tectu, ya. calif. but im ee pro trolling my parent company in shanghai 2016-07-22T16:23:41 < Steffanx> Tectu the r4/r5 is huge arse big (and black) 2016-07-22T16:24:11 < Tectu> Steffanx, it's still just a midi tower. have you never seen a big tower or a full tower? They are huge. 2016-07-22T16:24:21 < Tectu> Steffanx, if it fits between my rods, it's not huge. 2016-07-22T16:25:05 < upgrdman> BBC amirite 2016-07-22T16:25:05 < upgrdman> big black case 2016-07-22T16:25:25 < Steffanx> But upgrdrman probably doesnt need space for 8 or more ssds/hhds 2016-07-22T16:25:35 < upgrdman> hehe i remember full towers and at psus 2016-07-22T16:26:22 < Tectu> nothing sane as been said here today so far 2016-07-22T16:26:24 < upgrdman> ya i want like mitx size... bur i dont want to sacrafice atx mobos 2016-07-22T16:26:29 < Tectu> is everybody trollmood because friday? 2016-07-22T16:26:35 < ReadError> crt twistin the glass dick full of biker P 2016-07-22T16:27:06 < upgrdman> i just need atx mobo, atx psu, dual slot gpu, ssd, lots of usb3. done. 2016-07-22T16:27:47 < upgrdman> and sexy case to put it in 2016-07-22T16:28:13 < Tectu> beer case. 2016-07-22T16:30:37 < upgrdman> i wish i could like "sli" two surface bro 4's to get like twice the cpu,gpu power 2016-07-22T16:33:07 < Tectu> upgrdman, they told me to use MethLab online in the meantime -__- 2016-07-22T16:33:26 < Steffanx> Who needs more then one usb3.0 port upgrdman? 2016-07-22T16:34:59 < upgrdman> steff, lol 2016-07-22T16:35:36 < upgrdman> my 7port hub is full, and i have 2 other things plugged into pc too 2016-07-22T16:37:56 < upgrdman> anyone ise one of those cube cases, where mobo is horizontal? 2016-07-22T16:38:36 < Tectu> upgrdman, I had one, just got rid of it 2016-07-22T16:39:01 < ReadError> http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-air-540-high-airflow-atx-cube-case 2016-07-22T16:39:05 < ReadError> thats my last build 2016-07-22T16:39:50 < Tectu> crt, sounds like the perfect gf 2016-07-22T16:40:09 < ReadError> http://www.easylife.org/fufme/ 2016-07-22T16:45:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.223] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T16:48:29 < Tectu> this is what I expect dongs is developing 2016-07-22T16:51:35 < ReadError> upgrdman is rethinking that 5.25" option 2016-07-22T16:51:41 < Tectu> did you check out the FAQ? 2016-07-22T16:51:58 < ReadError> not recently no 2016-07-22T16:52:02 < Tectu> "What is FuckU-FuckMe's rate of transmission? 2016-07-22T16:52:02 < Tectu> Transmission rate depends on several important factors: Available bandwidth, the capabilities of the genitalDrive(tm) device, and the amount of stimulative activity. FuckU-FuckMe's optimizes performance by continually adjusting the rate of transmission for a given set of conditions." 2016-07-22T16:53:04 < Tectu> "I am gay/lesbian. Is it possible for me to use FuckU-FuckMe with my same-sex partner? 2016-07-22T16:53:04 < Tectu> Not at the moment" 2016-07-22T16:53:07 < Tectu> LOL ^ 2016-07-22T17:03:07 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T17:03:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-22T17:03:34 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T17:05:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-22T17:08:30 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T17:09:12 < Tectu> "Can I use FuckU-FuckMe for anal or oral sex? 2016-07-22T17:09:12 < Tectu> Certainly! But be sure to set the preferences to oral/anal for best results. Ensure first that these acts are legal in your state. We cannot be held responsible for the legal consequences of extracoital use." 2016-07-22T17:09:15 < Tectu> illegal wut? 2016-07-22T17:09:23 < Tectu> can some american dude clear that up? 2016-07-22T17:09:45 < ReadError> Tectu buttsex is illegal in some states 2016-07-22T17:09:52 < Tectu> seriously? o.O 2016-07-22T17:10:02 < Tectu> like in general or with age restriction or something? 2016-07-22T17:10:56 < Steffanx> Better get a room you two. 2016-07-22T17:11:11 < Tectu> ReadError, what is the reasoning behind it being illegal? 2016-07-22T17:11:19 < ReadError> gays 2016-07-22T17:11:29 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: first they need to figure out if they'd be doing an illegal act 2016-07-22T17:11:35 < ReadError> its stuff thats a 'law' but not enforced 2016-07-22T17:12:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T17:18:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-22T17:25:37 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-22T17:29:50 < Tectu> Laurenceb, ping 2016-07-22T17:30:56 < Laurenceb> sup 2016-07-22T17:31:29 < Tectu> how are you today, Laurenceb ? 2016-07-22T17:31:33 < Laurenceb> too hot 2016-07-22T17:31:48 < Laurenceb> trying to remeber what shit I'm supposed to be doing 2016-07-22T17:32:00 < Laurenceb> unable to spell 2016-07-22T17:33:23 < Laurenceb> you? 2016-07-22T17:33:35 < Tectu> I'm fine, thanks. 2016-07-22T17:34:28 < ReadError> im super thanks for asthking 2016-07-22T17:34:37 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-22T17:35:37 < Laurenceb> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sqZbAJeARiQ/V3sPjXikUnI/AAAAAAAAayQ/FPjyFLoTFPcs3vPg735HYvw2BEfG-ngNQCLcB/s1600/Capture.JPG 2016-07-22T17:36:14 < Tectu> and I already regret pinging you 2016-07-22T17:37:02 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T17:37:17 < ReadError> NOT FUNNY LAURENCEB 2016-07-22T17:39:18 < englishman> ReadError: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trudeau-promises-to-decriminalize-anal-sex-for-16-year-olds 2016-07-22T17:39:35 < Laurenceb> buttsex is serious business 2016-07-22T17:39:58 < Laurenceb> in canada 2016-07-22T17:41:00 < ReadError> i know a guy that got knocked on that shit 2016-07-22T17:41:12 < ReadError> his gf was like 16, he was 18 2016-07-22T17:41:24 < Laurenceb> "know a guy" 2016-07-22T17:41:35 < ReadError> girls parents caught them, hes like "yea i fucked her in the butt" (no joke) 2016-07-22T17:41:39 < ReadError> well her dad was a cop 2016-07-22T17:41:46 < Tectu> how do "people" as in "authorities" even hear about a 18 years old having anal sex with a 16 years old? 2016-07-22T17:41:54 < Laurenceb> haha cool story bro 2016-07-22T17:41:55 < Tectu> that answers that. 2016-07-22T17:42:03 < ReadError> so he got hit on like, sex with a minor 2016-07-22T17:42:06 < ReadError> and sodomy lol 2016-07-22T17:42:08 < Laurenceb> ##stm32 has turned into erotic fiction 2016-07-22T17:42:08 < englishman> Tectu: people used to talk to each other irl before facebook 2016-07-22T17:42:14 < ReadError> even tho he didnt put it in the butt 2016-07-22T17:42:31 < Tectu> ReadError, but is buttsex illegal in general or just with 16 years old girls? 2016-07-22T17:42:40 < ReadError> Tectu illegal in some states 2016-07-22T17:42:48 < Laurenceb> why is this relevant for Tectu.... 2016-07-22T17:42:50 < Tectu> > even tho he didnt put it in the butt <---- that's a reason to get behind bars. 2016-07-22T17:42:54 < ReadError> because: gays 2016-07-22T17:42:55 < Tectu> always put it in the butt bro 2016-07-22T17:43:01 < Laurenceb> oh god 2016-07-22T17:43:05 < ReadError> Tectu well no, cuz he was 18, she was 16 2016-07-22T17:43:11 < Laurenceb> this channel is going full erotic fiction 2016-07-22T17:43:11 < ReadError> and the butt was just an extra charge 2016-07-22T17:43:15 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-22T17:43:32 < Tectu> ReadError, but if a 25 years old fucks his 23 years old gf in the butt and she's okay with it, it's still illegal in some states? 2016-07-22T17:43:49 < ReadError> Tectu like i said too 2016-07-22T17:43:52 < Tectu> > and the butt was just an extra charge <--- that's what hookers do, no? 2016-07-22T17:43:52 < ReadError> this shit isnt enforced 2016-07-22T17:44:10 < ReadError> its just there so they can fuck you worse if they want 2016-07-22T17:44:11 < Tectu> ah, so if she'd have been 18 everything would be okay? 2016-07-22T17:44:16 < ReadError> right 2016-07-22T17:44:17 < Tectu> because nobody presses charges for buttsex? 2016-07-22T17:44:23 < Tectu> I see 2016-07-22T17:44:46 < Tectu> so it's more of a "now that we got you, we'll fuck you with everything we can" situation 2016-07-22T17:44:55 < ReadError> well the laws are old 2016-07-22T17:45:11 < ReadError> its up there with, you can beat your wife on the steps of city hall 2016-07-22T17:45:18 < Laurenceb> O_o this topic escalated quickly 2016-07-22T17:45:23 < Tectu> crt is that gradeA quote? 2016-07-22T17:45:25 < Laurenceb> ##stmbuttsex 2016-07-22T17:45:48 < Laurenceb> Tectu talks about buttsex 2016-07-22T17:45:57 < Tectu> it's ma passion bruh 2016-07-22T17:46:10 < Tectu> ReadError, also gf or just wife? 2016-07-22T17:46:36 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-22T17:46:43 < Tectu> because I'd get back together with my exgf then 2016-07-22T17:47:48 < Tectu> if the reason to forbid buttsex is because of homophobia, why not just banning buttsex between same genders? 2016-07-22T17:47:50 < Laurenceb> found Tectu 2016-07-22T17:47:51 < Laurenceb> https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9418705&cid=52558515 2016-07-22T17:47:59 < ReadError> Tectu the laws are probably like, 100 years old 2016-07-22T17:48:15 < englishman> Laurenceb: these are way better with pictures 2016-07-22T17:48:24 < Laurenceb> yeah it needs pics 2016-07-22T17:49:41 < Tectu> I'm gonna focus on work again. 2016-07-22T17:52:00 < Laurenceb> https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/ dat cursor 2016-07-22T17:52:42 < Laurenceb> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mcdonald-s-create-your-taste/photos 2016-07-22T17:54:15 < Tectu> stop posting shit man 2016-07-22T17:55:12 < Laurenceb> says mr buttsecs 2016-07-22T17:55:15 < englishman> come on this is as almost as funny as Mountain Dew 'Hitler did Nothing Wrong' flavour 2016-07-22T17:56:32 < Laurenceb> some fap material just for you Tectu http://imgur.com/a/sw3hu 2016-07-22T17:57:35 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-22T17:58:38 < englishman> Steffanx: ops plz 2016-07-22T17:59:51 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7752ea.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:00:16 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-07-22T18:00:23 < Laurenceb> wtf 2016-07-22T18:00:32 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-07-22T18:00:32 < Laurenceb> since when does Tect have ops O_o 2016-07-22T18:00:42 < Tectu> around 3 years 2016-07-22T18:00:47 < Laurenceb> we are doomed to buttsecs chat forever 2016-07-22T18:00:59 < Tectu> well, you weren't for the past three years, right? 2016-07-22T18:01:18 < Tectu> you actually don't remember how I kicked you a couple of times in the past because you posted very inappropriate pictures? 2016-07-22T18:01:26 < Laurenceb> lulno 2016-07-22T18:01:44 < Tectu> like men with semi-broken glass jars up their asses and cable ties around their balls 'n dick? 2016-07-22T18:01:53 < Laurenceb> inappropriate for ##stm32, say ti aint so 2016-07-22T18:01:56 < Laurenceb> lulwut 2016-07-22T18:02:02 < Laurenceb> cool story bro 2016-07-22T18:02:21 < Laurenceb> sounds like something you would post 2016-07-22T18:02:28 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-22T18:02:32 < Tectu> how is your GUI? 2016-07-22T18:02:42 < Laurenceb> working but glitchy :-/ 2016-07-22T18:02:43 < BrainDamage> why do you guys even click on his links, just assume that anything that doesn't have a professional domain in the url is garbage 2016-07-22T18:03:17 < Tectu> BrainDamage, I still have hopes that he grows up at some point 2016-07-22T18:03:30 < Laurenceb> the graph scroll speed is variable :( 2016-07-22T18:03:39 < Laurenceb> time to get a profiler on it 2016-07-22T18:04:28 < Tectu> Laurenceb, can I see a screenshot? Curious on how an application that shows horse stats looks like 2016-07-22T18:04:54 < Laurenceb> i sec 2016-07-22T18:05:04 * Laurenceb resists urge to troll with goatse 2016-07-22T18:06:07 < Tectu> Laurenceb, btw, as you asked last time: Another indian dude asked who wanted to help me getting rid of the virus on my windows computer yesterday 2016-07-22T18:06:41 < Laurenceb> did you troll? 2016-07-22T18:06:53 < Tectu> no 2016-07-22T18:07:00 < Laurenceb> :( 2016-07-22T18:07:01 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/a/2TosJ 2016-07-22T18:07:54 < Laurenceb> thats running demo mode 2016-07-22T18:08:21 < Tectu> bro tip: Use QSpinBox instead of QLineEdit for "Hold Time" 2016-07-22T18:08:37 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-22T18:09:29 < Laurenceb> scroll seems ok in demo mode.. interesting 2016-07-22T18:10:23 < Laurenceb> I should test on myself but ran out of electrodes :-/ 2016-07-22T18:10:33 < Laurenceb> time for nipple crock clips 2016-07-22T18:11:27 < Laurenceb> have you ever used QSerialPort ? 2016-07-22T18:13:19 < Laurenceb> I have probably accidentally got some blocking shit somewhere 2016-07-22T18:16:31 < Tectu> no, haven't used that. back when I used serial port stuff with Qt that didn't exist 2016-07-22T18:16:45 < Laurenceb> ah ok 2016-07-22T18:16:59 < Tectu> Laurenceb, but you might want to upgrade to a more recent version of Qt because QSerialPort got large bug fixes / improvements in one of the newer versions. Not 100% sure though, better check changelogs 2016-07-22T18:17:08 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-22T18:17:17 < Tectu> 5.7 is the current stable release 2016-07-22T18:17:20 < Tectu> 5.6 is LTS 2016-07-22T18:17:20 < Laurenceb> I'll check 2016-07-22T18:17:27 < Laurenceb> on 5.5.1 here 2016-07-22T18:28:22 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:30:16 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:30:54 -!- Teeed [~teeed@na1noc.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:30:54 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:39:46 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:41:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Ultrasauce, ifjGery, jonsowman, CipherWizard, zyp, oz4ga, bvsh, a_morale, karlp, kakimir, (+98 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2016-07-22T18:42:56 -!- effractur [~Erik@hlm000.nl.z4p.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jul 22 18:47:01 2016 --- Log opened Fri Jul 22 18:47:09 2016 2016-07-22T18:47:09 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:47:09 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 116 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 115 normal] 2016-07-22T18:47:12 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:47:17 < Laurenceb> attn crt https://encyclopediadramatica.se/United_States_of_Australia 2016-07-22T18:47:19 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:47:19 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:47:57 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has quit [Quit: Unplugging] 2016-07-22T18:48:36 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 93 secs 2016-07-22T18:48:46 -!- hornang [~quassel@46.29.223.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:52:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:52:10 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:53:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:54:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:54:32 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T18:57:32 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-22T18:58:09 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:03:15 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:11:27 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Thermally-Conductive-Encapsulating/dp/B0149IQ89K/ 2016-07-22T19:11:32 < ReadError> why is all this shit so $$$ 2016-07-22T19:14:00 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-22T19:14:06 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:14:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.159] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:16:26 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:24:21 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:25:10 < trepidacious> Anyone run into this building a ChibiOS project? make: *** No rule to make target 'crt0_v7m.s', needed by 'build/obj/crt0_v7m.o'. Stop. 2016-07-22T19:25:41 < trepidacious> Even just building a demo moved outside the chibios directory does the same thing 2016-07-22T19:26:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-22T19:26:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:26:22 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T19:27:37 < trepidacious> Ah no, I lied - it will build outside dir 2016-07-22T19:29:12 < trepidacious> Just me using ~ in a path, apparently that doesn't work... 2016-07-22T19:33:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-22T19:40:12 < Laurenceb> lul full retard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-HP8y5ByA8 2016-07-22T19:43:13 < ReadError> gurl u nasty 2016-07-22T19:47:14 < Laurenceb> uh oh shots fired in Munich 2016-07-22T19:47:21 < Laurenceb> memes becoming real again 2016-07-22T19:53:33 < Laurenceb> http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/2560762.jpg 2016-07-22T19:54:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-22T19:54:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-22T19:54:51 < englishman> nsfw https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn-9TcNWgAAmirw.jpg 2016-07-22T19:55:02 < englishman> someone was periscoping lol 2016-07-22T19:55:27 < ReadError> link? 2016-07-22T19:55:32 < ReadError> periscope is saved for 24hr 2016-07-22T19:55:36 < englishman> isnt periscope live only? 2016-07-22T19:55:39 < englishman> oh i dono 2016-07-22T19:55:43 < englishman> shit has never worked for me 2016-07-22T19:55:57 < ReadError> If you would still like your broadcasts to expire after 24 hours, you can visit 'Settings' and select 'Auto Delete After 24hr'. This will ensure that all future broadcasts automatically expire after 24 hours. If Auto-Delete is on, you will still be presented with the opportunity to save each broadcast after it ends.May 25, 2016 2016-07-22T19:56:02 < englishman> https://www.periscope.tv/w/1MYxNzDWdkNxw 2016-07-22T19:57:08 < ReadError> is michael j fox broadcasting? 2016-07-22T19:57:30 < englishman> do germans not have good phones 2016-07-22T19:57:51 < Laurenceb> shit this is going to be nasty 2016-07-22T19:57:54 < Laurenceb> not watching 2016-07-22T19:58:05 < ReadError> they all carry around mirrorless cameras 2016-07-22T19:58:06 < englishman> its just a bunch of dudes standing aroung gawking 2016-07-22T19:58:07 < englishman> nothing there 2016-07-22T19:58:13 < englishman> ah yes 2016-07-22T19:58:16 < englishman> which they paid for in cash 2016-07-22T19:58:24 < Laurenceb> need more "Refugees welcome" signs 2016-07-22T20:00:58 < ReadError> http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/ 2016-07-22T20:01:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:07:44 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-22T20:09:35 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdcfahlisygfwjxm] by ChanServ 2016-07-22T20:09:56 < Steffanx> Seriously, im going to mute everyone for shit posting. 2016-07-22T20:10:47 < aandrew> but if we don't shitpost we will have nothing to talk about here 2016-07-22T20:10:48 < Steffanx> After this ohsix offtopic crap getting semi-bullied away im done with it. 2016-07-22T20:11:06 < aandrew> hm? what happened to ohsix? 2016-07-22T20:11:17 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@dsl-217-155-137-246.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-22T20:11:34 < Steffanx> he left after the hate/ignoring. 2016-07-22T20:11:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.204] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:11:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:28b1:4b56:9641:5cbf] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-22T20:12:15 < aandrew> hm, I didn't know that 2016-07-22T20:21:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T20:23:04 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:25:02 < Fleck> so, what would be the best way to generate random number, but, like, 1ns are most common, 2nd a bit less, but also common etc until around 10... 10 is least common 2016-07-22T20:25:48 < Laurenceb> anyone here used profiling in Qt creator? 2016-07-22T20:25:52 < BrainDamage> it's called a gaussian distribution Fleck 2016-07-22T20:26:01 * Fleck googles 2016-07-22T20:26:10 < BrainDamage> poisson if it's discrete values 2016-07-22T20:27:27 < BrainDamage> you can take an uniform random generator and turn into a gaussian ones with just few operations you can copypaste from stack overflow :p 2016-07-22T20:27:41 < Fleck> share link :D 2016-07-22T20:27:57 < BrainDamage> i'm not gonna google stack overflow for you 2016-07-22T20:28:02 < Fleck> :D 2016-07-22T20:32:47 < dekar> Laurenceb, I've used profiling. On Linux it works fine, on OSX valgrind regularly has issues. 2016-07-22T20:33:10 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-22T20:33:29 < Laurenceb> what is Self Cost: Ir ? 2016-07-22T20:34:28 < dekar> idk, was some time ago. 2016-07-22T20:35:40 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:37:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:1c92:919b:bd70:b41e] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:38:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.46] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-22T20:39:17 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-22T20:39:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdcfahlisygfwjxm] by ChanServ 2016-07-22T20:42:17 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:44:18 -!- trepidacious [~trepidaci@217.155.204.2] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-22T20:46:39 < englishman> was that me? i didnt chase off ohsix, i miss the dude :( 2016-07-22T20:53:48 < Laurenceb> hmf 2016-07-22T20:55:11 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/17Qtgly.png 2016-07-22T20:55:15 < Laurenceb> good... bad?> 2016-07-22T20:55:36 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmoqcfinvmnoalkl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T20:57:47 < Tectu> not good 2016-07-22T20:57:56 < Tectu> run it in GDB to figure out why it crashes 2016-07-22T20:58:07 < Laurenceb> oh cuz I killed it 2016-07-22T20:58:14 < Laurenceb> I meant the profiler output 2016-07-22T20:58:22 < Tectu> ah, sorry ^^ 2016-07-22T20:58:44 < Laurenceb> dunno how to read that 2016-07-22T20:58:56 < Laurenceb> Cost is in cycles or something? 2016-07-22T20:59:15 < BrainDamage> i use https://github.com/jrfonseca/gprof2dot 2016-07-22T20:59:33 < Tectu> that's nice, thanks for the link BrainDamage 2016-07-22T20:59:39 < BrainDamage> generate stats with perf, then feed to gprof2dot, then render a call graph 2016-07-22T20:59:39 < Tectu> probably the first useful thing posted here today 2016-07-22T20:59:52 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-22T21:00:29 -!- a_morale__ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T21:02:33 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-22T21:38:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-22T21:41:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T22:05:26 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t15mld60ywmpm.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T22:24:50 < ReadError> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1V0tmKpXXXXbaXpXXq6xXFXXX8/121130677/HTB1V0tmKpXXXXbaXpXXq6xXFXXX8.jpg 2016-07-22T22:32:26 < jadew> anything interesting on the Munich shooting? 2016-07-22T22:32:33 < jadew> I just found out about it 2016-07-22T22:43:50 < Tectu> now that you are reminding me: Laurenceb, how is templeOS these days? 2016-07-22T22:49:30 < Tectu> jadew, as far as I can tell there's no news. they are still searching for the attackers 2016-07-22T22:49:32 < Tectu> jadew, it 2016-07-22T22:49:44 < Tectu> jadew, it just drives me crazy that people are capable of doing shit like that... 2016-07-22T22:54:10 < jadew> Tectu, yeah, makes you wonder what drives them to do that 2016-07-22T22:54:31 < Tectu> jadew, indeed. 2016-07-22T22:54:41 < Tectu> jadew, clearly it must be because of video games. 2016-07-22T22:54:44 < Tectu> -.- 2016-07-22T23:21:29 < jadew> apparently one of the shooters said "fucking foreigners" before shooting 2016-07-22T23:21:46 < jadew> and another one said "I'm german" when he had a conversation with someone from the top of a roof 2016-07-22T23:24:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-22T23:32:09 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-22T23:38:42 -!- indy [~indy@shadow.kastnerove.cz] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] --- Day changed Sat Jul 23 2016 2016-07-23T00:02:32 < Tectu> did they only shoot foreigners? 2016-07-23T00:03:14 < Tectu> "only" not in a "less value" fashion... 2016-07-23T00:03:26 < Tectu> let's use the word "exclusively"... 2016-07-23T00:04:07 < jadew> Tectu, don't know, I was wondering the same thing 2016-07-23T00:04:44 < jadew> if yes, then I guess it started sooner than I expected 2016-07-23T00:05:30 < Tectu> some things just shouldn't happen at all 2016-07-23T00:05:38 < jadew> I agree 2016-07-23T00:07:19 < jadew> the other big thing for today: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4u3bt8/wikileaks_releases_nearly_20000_hacked_dnc_emails/ 2016-07-23T00:07:22 < Tectu> I mean... If somebody kills your 5 years old daughter by running her over with a car and then just drives off, if you then hunt him/her down and shoot her... well, I don't want to say that it's okay. Of course you get in trouble and you should do it, but society doesn't have a "moral" issue with it. But what happened there in Munich is just shit that's not supposed to happen. 2016-07-23T00:07:34 < Tectu> probably badly worded but I guess you know what I mean. 2016-07-23T00:08:00 < Tectu> what I mean is: Just randomly shooting around in public is pretty poor. 2016-07-23T00:08:22 < jadew> I do, but I think they see this as their only option 2016-07-23T00:08:47 < jadew> of course this wouldn't happen if the government gave two shits about what their people want 2016-07-23T00:09:03 < zyp> *yawn* 2016-07-23T00:09:19 < zyp> fucking html bullshit 2016-07-23T00:09:30 < jadew> thing is, everyone involved thinks they're doing the right thing 2016-07-23T00:09:36 < jadew> when you do this kind of stuff, you have to 2016-07-23T00:09:45 < jadew> that goes for both camps 2016-07-23T00:09:50 < jadew> zyp, what's wrong? 2016-07-23T00:09:50 < Tectu> if it's because of foreigners which on some level has become a problem (speaking of raping and ciminality, not of the immigrants that actually work and fulfill their part of the responsibility towards the community) then why not doing that shit at a place where immigrants are? Why the fuck a public mall? 2016-07-23T00:10:15 < zyp> jadew, nothing is wrong, I've just spent hours to put together a shipping label template 2016-07-23T00:10:31 < zyp> with customs form and all the marks and shit required 2016-07-23T00:10:36 < jadew> zyp, next time you'll have an easier time :) 2016-07-23T00:10:50 < zyp> because I was fucking tired of having to put five separate labels on every shipment 2016-07-23T00:11:03 < jadew> Tectu, it's too early to jump to any conclusions, but I agree with you, this stuff shouldn't happen 2016-07-23T00:11:04 < zyp> now I got everything on one 2016-07-23T00:11:28 < zyp> and when I've written a simple webshop, I'll get it autofilled as well 2016-07-23T00:11:29 < jadew> heh, you couldn't do it with like... word? 2016-07-23T00:12:11 < jadew> webshop where people can buy stuff from you? 2016-07-23T00:12:16 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-23T00:12:21 < Tectu> not without getting at least three crypto trojaners 2016-07-23T00:12:55 < jadew> zyp, cool, on some particular framework or from scratch? 2016-07-23T00:12:55 < zyp> making labels in word would be easier, sure 2016-07-23T00:13:21 < zyp> but the goal is to be able to just enter admin page of shop, click «generate labels» and print directly from browser 2016-07-23T00:13:41 < zyp> eh, I'll just make some simple shit from scratch 2016-07-23T00:14:10 < jadew> what language? 2016-07-23T00:14:18 < Tectu> zyp, you know that there are more than enough eCommerce solutions for that? :D 2016-07-23T00:14:21 < zyp> probably some super simple angular2 shit for the frontend part and a simple python json backend 2016-07-23T00:14:30 < jadew> got it 2016-07-23T00:15:20 < zyp> Tectu, getting them to work exactly like I want is probably harder than writing something simple from scratch 2016-07-23T00:15:45 < Tectu> that's a valid argument 2016-07-23T00:15:51 < jadew> ^ I fully agree 2016-07-23T00:16:06 < jadew> not to mention that they're all stupid 2016-07-23T00:18:03 < jadew> zyp, if you decide to rewrite it give me a shout and I'll link you to a framework I wrote, so you can consider it along the other ones out there 2016-07-23T00:18:18 < zyp> rewrite what? 2016-07-23T00:18:23 < jadew> your little shop 2016-07-23T00:20:05 < zyp> I haven't started on it yet, just drafted out what to write 2016-07-23T00:20:11 < jadew> ah, got it 2016-07-23T00:21:42 < zyp> my current «shop» consists of a google forms site that fills a spreadsheet :p 2016-07-23T00:21:58 < jadew> hehe 2016-07-23T00:23:24 < zyp> which works fairly good actually 2016-07-23T00:24:05 < zyp> I've processed over 500 orders through it since 2013 :p 2016-07-23T00:24:27 < jadew> well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it :) 2016-07-23T00:25:35 < zyp> there's a couple of points I want to improve upon 2016-07-23T00:26:06 < zyp> each product being a col in the spreadsheet, for instance 2016-07-23T00:26:39 < zyp> worked well when I had one product and a few accessory cables, will be more of a hassle when I add the new NFC readers soon 2016-07-23T00:27:13 < zyp> and filling shipping labels by hand is a hassle 2016-07-23T00:27:39 < jadew> oh, it really sounds like you could use a proper site 2016-07-23T00:27:42 < ReadError> what do you sell? 2016-07-23T00:28:04 < jadew> more precisely, a proper DB 2016-07-23T00:28:09 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-23T00:28:23 < zyp> and later on, I'll integrate payment processing as well 2016-07-23T00:28:36 < jadew> paypal? 2016-07-23T00:29:12 < zyp> yeah, and/or stripe 2016-07-23T00:30:25 < zyp> stripe seems to have a nice API, but I think paypal have slightly lower fees, and allows me to keep money in USD and re-spend it without currency conversions back and forth 2016-07-23T00:30:55 < jadew> first time I hear about stripe 2016-07-23T00:31:00 < jadew> but you can implement both 2016-07-23T00:31:23 < zyp> yeah, once I get to payment integration I'll make it modular 2016-07-23T00:32:25 < zyp> ReadError, this shit: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/QTIae.JPG 2016-07-23T00:32:40 < zyp> ReadError, and soon this shit: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/crJLt.JPG 2016-07-23T00:33:10 < ReadError> what is it 2016-07-23T00:33:41 < ReadError> TC is nice 2016-07-23T00:33:42 < zyp> first one is a USB HID IO adapter, second one is a NFC reader 2016-07-23T00:33:57 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-23T00:34:16 < ReadError> havent lost the little clip yet 2016-07-23T00:34:16 < zyp> especially on volume stuff 2016-07-23T00:35:44 < zyp> cable is kinda expensive, but by now it's probably saved me enough programming connectors to pay for itself a couple of times 2016-07-23T00:36:02 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T00:36:12 < ReadError> eh ya 30 bux not too bad 2016-07-23T00:36:23 < jadew> oh, that looks nice 2016-07-23T00:36:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-23T00:36:24 < zyp> IIRC it was like $50 2016-07-23T00:36:31 < zyp> and another $50 in shipping to norway 2016-07-23T00:36:33 < jadew> link? 2016-07-23T00:36:41 < zyp> jadew, to what? 2016-07-23T00:36:47 < jadew> cable 2016-07-23T00:36:48 < Tectu> I am using stripe 2016-07-23T00:36:52 < ReadError> hm wow i got 2x for 60 2016-07-23T00:37:01 < ReadError> the one w/ and w/o the clips 2016-07-23T00:37:05 < zyp> http://www.tag-connect.com/TC2030-CTX-NL 2016-07-23T00:37:09 < Tectu> I used another provider first but eventually switched to stripe. I am very happy with them. 2016-07-23T00:37:32 < jadew> zyp, thanks 2016-07-23T00:37:38 < zyp> Tectu, they seem really nice 2016-07-23T00:37:44 < zyp> just a bit less convenient than paypal 2016-07-23T00:37:45 < Tectu> zyp, they are. 2016-07-23T00:37:54 < Tectu> zyp, yes indeed. but for the customer it's a lot more convenient ;) 2016-07-23T00:38:10 < zyp> not really 2016-07-23T00:38:32 < zyp> entering my paypal password is faster than digging out a credit card 2016-07-23T00:38:41 < Tectu> I mean if they want to pay via credit card 2016-07-23T00:38:45 < ReadError> chrome saves my card 2016-07-23T00:38:48 < zyp> and I don't remember the numbers of any of my current credit cards 2016-07-23T00:38:58 < Tectu> I had to explain 100000 times that they can pay via paypal with credit card 2016-07-23T00:39:04 < zyp> haha 2016-07-23T00:39:11 < zyp> I haven't had any problems with that 2016-07-23T00:39:24 < Tectu> you seem to have smarter customers :p 2016-07-23T00:39:47 < Tectu> nah, it's mainly american companies that had a real problem with paying through paypal - even with their credit card 2016-07-23T00:39:56 < Tectu> so I thought fuck it and went for stripe 2016-07-23T00:40:48 < jadew> this is how I solved the connector issue: http://dumb.ro/files/connector.jpg 2016-07-23T00:40:57 < jadew> it's made from a PCX socket 2016-07-23T00:41:13 < Tectu> PCI con? 2016-07-23T00:41:14 < Tectu> hah 2016-07-23T00:41:16 < jadew> PCI 2016-07-23T00:41:18 < jadew> sorry hehe 2016-07-23T00:41:31 < jadew> yeah, works great 2016-07-23T00:41:32 < zyp> haha, and edge connectors on pcb? 2016-07-23T00:41:35 < jadew> yep 2016-07-23T00:41:38 < zyp> cute 2016-07-23T00:41:51 < Tectu> how much do you have to pay extra to get the gold plating on the edge connectors? 2016-07-23T00:42:05 < zyp> probably not plated, just ENIG 2016-07-23T00:42:08 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-23T00:42:19 < jadew> it's just for programming, doesn't really matter 2016-07-23T00:42:20 < Tectu> how long will that last? 2016-07-23T00:42:27 < jadew> it only has to last once :) 2016-07-23T00:42:33 < zyp> a programming connector doesn't take a lot of abuse, so it won't wear off 2016-07-23T00:42:34 < jadew> or you mean the cable? 2016-07-23T00:42:41 < Tectu> nah the PCB 2016-07-23T00:42:54 < jadew> well, you just use it once or twice, it doesn't matter 2016-07-23T00:42:54 < Tectu> tagconnect seems really nice though. 2016-07-23T00:43:03 < zyp> how's required force to put that thing on? 2016-07-23T00:43:12 < Tectu> very little I guess 2016-07-23T00:43:20 < Tectu> it will probably be very floppy I assume? 2016-07-23T00:43:23 < jadew> zyp, pretty ok, especially since the pins on the other side are removed 2016-07-23T00:43:26 < zyp> ah 2016-07-23T00:43:31 < jadew> and every other pin on the connector side is also removed 2016-07-23T00:43:48 < Tectu> why, if I may ask? 2016-07-23T00:43:54 < zyp> footprint seems kinda large 2016-07-23T00:44:06 < jadew> you can make it smaller 2016-07-23T00:44:07 < zyp> and you need a free edge, and can't have anything on the back either 2016-07-23T00:44:19 < jadew> yeah, that's a disadvantage 2016-07-23T00:44:28 < jadew> that tag connect thing looks ideal 2016-07-23T00:44:55 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/NjEyT.JPG <- easier to fit, at least :) 2016-07-23T00:45:18 < jadew> yeah, it's very nice 2016-07-23T00:46:33 < Tectu> what's that, zyp 2016-07-23T00:47:07 < zyp> a bad design, it didn't sit well in usb sockets 2016-07-23T00:47:26 < ReadError> traces bout a cunthair from being routed out 2016-07-23T00:47:56 < Tectu> cunt hair -.- 2016-07-23T00:47:58 < jadew> hah 2016-07-23T00:48:09 < Tectu> somebody should slap you in the face, ReadError 2016-07-23T00:48:11 < zyp> rev. 2 design looks like this: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/hjk3A.png 2016-07-23T00:48:17 < jadew> that's what I wanted to say, I learned something new 2016-07-23T00:48:26 < zyp> it's basically a USB to RS485 interface 2016-07-23T00:48:28 < Tectu> what's JVS? 2016-07-23T00:48:41 < zyp> JVS is some stupid RS485 based protocol, defined to use usb connectors 2016-07-23T00:48:55 < Tectu> uhm, what? 2016-07-23T00:48:57 < Tectu> why. 2016-07-23T00:49:03 < jadew> haha 2016-07-23T00:49:22 < jadew> it's a troll protocol 2016-07-23T00:49:26 < zyp> probably because they are easy to use and have the right number of pins? 2016-07-23T00:50:16 < zyp> and also a defined master/slave side of the cable, so it's hard to connect wrong 2016-07-23T00:57:31 < ReadError> http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/22/technology/suitcase-motorized-rideable-motobag/index.html 2016-07-23T00:57:59 < zyp> haha 2016-07-23T00:58:14 < jadew> they won't allow you with it on the plane for sure 2016-07-23T00:58:33 < jadew> huge battery 2016-07-23T00:58:37 < ReadError> jadew yea they will 2016-07-23T00:58:44 < ReadError> you *HAVE* to have them on the plane in the cabin 2016-07-23T00:58:59 < ReadError> up to 100Wh per pack 2016-07-23T00:58:59 < zyp> «The Modobag has a range of about eight miles. Its battery power is intentionally set just under the FAA's 100 watt hour limit so that travelers can take the bag on planes.» 2016-07-23T00:59:07 < ReadError> ^ 2016-07-23T00:59:19 < jadew> hehe 2016-07-23T00:59:42 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmoqcfinvmnoalkl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-23T01:01:52 < jadew> you know what would make it sell a lot better? 2016-07-23T01:02:02 < ReadError> beer fridge? 2016-07-23T01:02:11 < jadew> if instead of having to drive it, it would just follow you around, like a dog 2016-07-23T01:02:24 < jadew> it's less silly and more people would buy that 2016-07-23T01:02:32 < Tectu> isn't that what you have your girlfriend for? 2016-07-23T01:02:44 < Tectu> to follow you around that is, not to ride on. 2016-07-23T01:03:10 < jadew> it's usually her luggage that you wish it drove itself 2016-07-23T01:04:21 < jadew> if you had luggage that followed you, you could have 10 bags with you 2016-07-23T01:04:25 < Tectu> she doesn't get to have any luggage. 2016-07-23T01:04:26 < jadew> it would be like a herd 2016-07-23T01:04:55 < Tectu> zyp, would like that. one bag for his computer, one for his monitor, one for the keyboard and mouse.. -__- 2016-07-23T01:05:42 < jadew> then there could be the zano luggage, which would also fly and do HD video 2016-07-23T01:05:59 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T01:05:59 < zyp> Tectu, nah, keyboard and mouse can go into one of the others 2016-07-23T01:06:03 < zyp> only need two 2016-07-23T01:06:33 < Tectu> well if anyone knows how to get a desktop computer on a plane it's you. 2016-07-23T01:06:59 < zyp> just put it into your luggage? 2016-07-23T01:07:01 < jadew> you could also get an inverter and use the luggage's battery to power it up 2016-07-23T01:07:04 < zyp> it's not exactly rocket science 2016-07-23T01:07:40 < jadew> luggage v2, with embeded inverter 2016-07-23T01:07:47 < Tectu> you two are weird. 2016-07-23T01:08:58 < zyp> we've got buses and trains here with 230V outlets 2016-07-23T01:09:13 < zyp> I considered bringing my imac to use on a train trip once 2016-07-23T01:09:21 < jadew> yeah, we too, but you don't see that on a plane 2016-07-23T01:09:26 < zyp> sure you do 2016-07-23T01:09:37 < jadew> didn't know that 2016-07-23T01:09:44 < jadew> then my idea sucks 2016-07-23T01:10:03 < zyp> I had my laptop plugged in when I flew to/from japan a few weeks ago 2016-07-23T01:10:03 < jadew> so a pair of wires could be considered a weapon? 2016-07-23T01:10:36 < zyp> haha, don't ruin it for everybody now :p 2016-07-23T01:10:42 < jadew> hehe 2016-07-23T01:11:19 < Tectu> Last summer when I was in Russia I had quite some trouble getting through security with two phones. 2016-07-23T01:11:40 < jadew> Tectu, why? 2016-07-23T01:11:43 < zyp> yeah, but you're like a spy 2016-07-23T01:12:00 < zyp> why else would you have two phones? 2016-07-23T01:12:15 < Tectu> :p 2016-07-23T01:12:55 < jadew> I had issues with bottles of water on several occasions, but it made no freaking sense 2016-07-23T01:13:10 < jadew> because after that check, I got access to ALL THE DUTIY FREE SHOPS 2016-07-23T01:13:23 < Tectu> one had my swissland SIM in that I couldn't get out anymore. akaWolf sent a russian pre-paid SIM to the hotel I staid in so I'd have internet and stuff while being in russia. Hence I needed a 2nd phone (because the other one doesn't do dualsim) 2016-07-23T01:13:31 < jadew> I ended up with a couple of bottles of booze in my backpack instead 2016-07-23T01:13:36 < ReadError> jadew its where the liquid came from 2016-07-23T01:13:42 < ReadError> not that its liquid 2016-07-23T01:13:58 < jadew> ah, you think they suspect the liquid itself 2016-07-23T01:13:59 < jadew> got it 2016-07-23T01:14:03 < jadew> that makes sense 2016-07-23T01:14:04 < ReadError> yes 2016-07-23T01:14:07 < zyp> yes 2016-07-23T01:14:24 < zyp> there's exempts for stuff like mothers bringing baby food 2016-07-23T01:14:35 < zyp> «but you might be asked to taste it» 2016-07-23T01:14:45 < Tectu> also afaik since january this year (or last?) if you have electronic devices they must be powered on during security check. To prevent people swapping batteries for explosives. 2016-07-23T01:14:50 < ReadError> I brought a box of like, 30lbs of lipos though TSA 2016-07-23T01:14:54 < Tectu> zyp, seriously? 2016-07-23T01:15:02 < zyp> yes 2016-07-23T01:15:07 < jadew> yeah, I think I heard about that too 2016-07-23T01:15:10 < Tectu> wow 2016-07-23T01:15:11 < jadew> about the tasting thing 2016-07-23T01:15:17 < Tectu> ReadError, how? 2016-07-23T01:15:23 < zyp> huh, I've never heard anything about shit having to be powered on 2016-07-23T01:15:31 < Tectu> zyp, that's 2015 or 2016 FFA 2016-07-23T01:15:35 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Quads/i-8ZxvDwm/0/X3/CA_06281513055592-X3.jpg 2016-07-23T01:15:48 < Tectu> zyp, if I remember correctly it even has to show some minimum battery percentage. 2016-07-23T01:16:08 < zyp> where is this a requirement? US? 2016-07-23T01:16:16 < jadew> I think I read something a couple of years back with someone who did a test with a gun sent through airmail 2016-07-23T01:16:32 < zyp> I'm always bringing a ton of electronic shit, and they've never done any checks on any of that 2016-07-23T01:16:39 < jadew> he found a loophole with some box that they couldn't open or see through 2016-07-23T01:16:51 < jadew> yeah, me too 2016-07-23T01:16:51 < ReadError> how? 2016-07-23T01:16:57 < jadew> but you probably look like a geek 2016-07-23T01:17:02 < zyp> but then it's almost two years since last I went to the US, so it could be a new US only thing 2016-07-23T01:17:02 < ReadError> you know MPP bags they cant scan through 2016-07-23T01:17:03 < Tectu> jadew, that sounds more like they should refuse to "ship" it :p 2016-07-23T01:17:13 < jadew> Tectu, yeah 2016-07-23T01:17:18 < Tectu> what's MPP? 2016-07-23T01:17:30 < ReadError> mylar moister barrier bags 2016-07-23T01:17:38 < ReadError> w/ aluminum typically 2016-07-23T01:18:00 < jadew> are there any underpants made from that? 2016-07-23T01:18:01 < ReadError> cant xray, drugs cant be smelled either, or anything 2016-07-23T01:18:37 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Dry-Packs-Oxygen-Absorbers-Storage/dp/B003WSUPDY 2016-07-23T01:18:38 < ReadError> these 2016-07-23T01:19:08 < Tectu> zyp, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10950919/Air-passengers-must-charge-phones-before-airport-security-or-risk-losing-them-says-US.html 2016-07-23T01:19:17 < Tectu> zyp, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10952671/Airport-security-you-wont-fly-to-the-US-if-your-mobile-phone-battery-is-dead.html 2016-07-23T01:19:31 < Tectu> zyp, I assume there is some official page about that, but I couldn't bother googling now. 2016-07-23T01:19:57 < ReadError> oh its MBB 2016-07-23T01:19:59 < Tectu> zyp, in russia one of the two phones I mentioned was powered off and I had to turn it on - they even waited until the thing was booted and flicked around. 2016-07-23T01:20:06 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/icvW5.jpg 2016-07-23T01:20:36 < Tectu> Thank you jadew. 2016-07-23T01:20:58 < jadew> you were looking for that? :) 2016-07-23T01:21:08 < zyp> Tectu, «may» 2016-07-23T01:21:13 < Tectu> jadew, I was not :) 2016-07-23T01:21:17 < zyp> which probably means that they don't give a fuck in practice 2016-07-23T01:21:27 < Tectu> zyp, well okay. Sorry for stating wrong stuff then :p 2016-07-23T01:22:08 < zyp> that article is dated jul 2014, I went to the US in nov 2014 and didn't get any bullshit from TSA 2016-07-23T01:22:25 < Tectu> ah, TSA it is. I was looking for FFA 2016-07-23T01:22:48 < Tectu> hah http://abc7chicago.com/news/tsa-agent-accused-of-taking-photos-up-passengers-skirts/1436849/ 2016-07-23T01:22:58 < jadew> zyp, you probably had your phone charged above the required limit 2016-07-23T01:23:00 < Tectu> found ReadError ^ 2016-07-23T01:23:24 < Tectu> jadew, yes, they added charge detectors in their metal detector frames. 2016-07-23T01:23:29 < ReadError> i travel with a usb battery 2016-07-23T01:23:38 < zyp> jadew, sure, but there's no way they could have known that since they didn't check 2016-07-23T01:23:49 < jadew> zyp, I was kidding 2016-07-23T01:24:12 < Tectu> flight security is annoying anyway. 2016-07-23T01:24:43 < Tectu> why can't people just stop doing terroristic shit and start behaving sanely 2016-07-23T01:25:07 < Tectu> imagine how fun it would be if you could take your chocolate fountain on the plane. Everybody would be happy. 2016-07-23T01:25:50 < ReadError> because everyone isnt muslim yet 2016-07-23T01:25:58 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-23T01:26:34 < jadew> next time I'll go through ariport security I'll make sure to get a semi-erection, to look good on the camera 2016-07-23T01:26:58 < Tectu> are we talking about those body scanners? 2016-07-23T01:27:05 < Tectu> I think they don't do them here. not sure though. I don't fly that often. 2016-07-23T01:27:50 < jadew> yeah, I don't think they do 2016-07-23T01:28:18 < jadew> haven't seen them anywhere, but you never know 2016-07-23T01:28:26 < jadew> they could do it without you being aware of it 2016-07-23T01:29:21 < Tectu> for some reason I can't, although I probably should, care about somebody taking ultra low-res semi-xray pictures of me 2016-07-23T01:29:35 < Tectu> especially as it's only for my own security!!!!111 2016-07-23T01:29:53 < jadew> I guess it's a good idea to maintain an erection for the entire time when you're in an airport 2016-07-23T01:30:21 < Tectu> do you have any advice on how to do that? 2016-07-23T01:30:34 < jadew> was just thinking about that 2016-07-23T01:30:53 < Tectu> maybe this is where taking upskirts comes in. 2016-07-23T01:31:23 < jadew> in 2 hours+ a lot of stuff can get borring 2016-07-23T01:31:57 < Tectu> I'm usually quite low-maintenance in that aspect 2016-07-23T01:35:26 < jadew> http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/02/disabled-teen-beaten-memphis-tsa/ 2016-07-23T01:38:20 < Tectu> -.- 2016-07-23T01:38:27 < Tectu> sometimes I feel like I'm the only sane person on this planet. 2016-07-23T01:43:25 < Laurenceb__> I see Ben Garrison struck in Munich 2016-07-23T01:43:57 < jadew> who is he? 2016-07-23T01:44:55 < Laurenceb__> BBC news described him as worlds most trolled man 2016-07-23T01:45:30 < Laurenceb__> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34292809 2016-07-23T01:48:43 < jadew> that's funny 2016-07-23T01:48:55 < jadew> some people are just made for it 2016-07-23T01:55:24 < Tectu> take care folks o/ 2016-07-23T01:55:29 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-23T02:03:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T02:07:34 < Laurenceb__> Munich shooters were wearing Pokemon t shirts 2016-07-23T02:07:55 < Laurenceb__> we seem to have shifted into alternate crazy world 2016-07-23T02:18:50 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T02:19:45 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, I saw a photo of empty streets in munich before (because police adviced people to stay at home because the attackers haven't been caught). Somebody tagged "pokemon gore" :D 2016-07-23T02:19:57 < Laurenceb__> oh god 2016-07-23T02:20:03 < Laurenceb__> memetics out of control 2016-07-23T02:21:25 < ReadError> i want to use an IMU but dont want to write code to detect all the different movements 2016-07-23T02:28:15 < Laurenceb__> wut 2016-07-23T02:28:20 < Laurenceb__> thats not how it works 2016-07-23T02:28:34 < Laurenceb__> raw data -> calibration -> ekf 2016-07-23T02:28:43 < Laurenceb__> copypasta code from taulabs 2016-07-23T02:29:23 < ReadError> like 2016-07-23T02:29:25 < ReadError> rotation 2016-07-23T02:30:07 < ReadError> which will be hard to do w/ gyro alone 2016-07-23T02:39:02 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2016-07-23T02:39:18 < Laurenceb__> if you just want attitude you could use ardupilot shit 2016-07-23T02:39:28 < Laurenceb__> check my github page 2016-07-23T02:39:38 < ReadError> well see im dicking up a little LED flashlight driver board 2016-07-23T02:39:47 < Laurenceb__> Equine/Util/dcm... something 2016-07-23T02:39:50 < ReadError> and want to be able to roll the body in hand 2016-07-23T02:39:56 < ReadError> to adjust brightness and whatnot 2016-07-23T02:40:13 < ReadError> so the speed and smoothness wont be ideal 2016-07-23T02:41:16 < ReadError> then simple stuff like, turn off when pointed straight up or down 2016-07-23T02:41:22 < ReadError> or close to it 2016-07-23T03:03:39 < jadew> now they say the dead guy may have acted alone 2016-07-23T03:22:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:1c92:919b:bd70:b41e] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-23T03:31:47 < Laurenceb__> maybe he was amish 2016-07-23T03:51:05 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-23T03:55:43 < Tectu> Laurenceb shouldn't you be asleep or suhmthing? 2016-07-23T04:30:01 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-07-23T04:32:16 < Tectu> no. 2016-07-23T04:32:21 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-23T05:25:02 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8502:5430:e9cf:358f:acc2:f2b] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T05:42:31 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-23T05:43:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8502:5430:e9cf:358f:acc2:f2b] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-23T05:48:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T06:00:06 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 2016-07-23T06:00:33 < Bright> crt: crt bottle 2016-07-23T06:05:34 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Extech-MA63-True-Clamp-Meter/dp/B01BEVDSV6/ 2016-07-23T06:05:43 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Extech-MA63-True-Clamp-Meter/dp/B01BEVDSV6/ 2016-07-23T06:05:46 < ReadError> err 2016-07-23T06:05:49 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Uni-T-UT210E-Current-Meters-Capacitance/dp/B00O1Q2HOQ/ 2016-07-23T06:05:56 < ReadError> same god damn thing? 2016-07-23T06:15:58 < Chris_M> the UNI-T one has higher current measurement capability. 2016-07-23T06:19:39 < ReadError> looks like a bunch of places use the same housing almost 2016-07-23T06:19:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T06:20:40 < Chris_M> yeh looks like it 2016-07-23T06:26:06 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-23T06:34:36 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T07:34:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-23T07:48:48 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T07:51:51 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-23T07:53:09 < ReadError> http://hastebin.com/etabahuyed.coffee 2016-07-23T07:53:12 < ReadError> found this qt 2016-07-23T08:19:03 < ReadError> good time to go apple picking 2016-07-23T08:27:41 < Bright> mmm shellcode 2016-07-23T08:28:26 < ReadError> some of the more adv work ive come across 2016-07-23T08:54:31 < ReadError> hasid0fhasdifhasdf 2016-07-23T08:54:38 < ReadError> ordered PCBs wed 2016-07-23T08:54:41 < ReadError> come monday ;) 2016-07-23T08:54:58 < ReadError> Ship date: 2016-07-23T08:54:58 < ReadError> Sat, 7/23/2016 2016-07-23T08:55:00 < ReadError> <3 2016-07-23T08:57:46 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T09:05:56 < ReadError> yes my korean 2016-07-23T09:14:01 < Shavik> RIP. STforums are down 2016-07-23T09:14:19 < Shavik> Start Time : 23rd July 2016 @ 06:00 Hrs End Time : 24th July 2016 @ 18:00 Hrs 2016-07-23T09:15:07 < ReadError> rip clive1's 4th account 2016-07-23T09:15:45 < Shavik> clive1's avatar is very fitting 2016-07-23T09:15:52 < Shavik> he's like clawson on the avrfreaks forums 2016-07-23T09:16:24 < Shavik> http://community.atmel.com/users/clawson 2016-07-23T09:16:25 < ReadError> his actual post count is much higher he said 2016-07-23T09:16:43 < Shavik> [7.21% of total / 20.36 posts per day] 20 posts per day since july 2005.. 2016-07-23T09:17:25 < ReadError> he must be a paid blogger 2016-07-23T09:25:43 < Shavik> So I felt like cheating and got the timer calculator. Main clock is 84Mhz. Would like Timer2 to overflow every 7ms. So it gave me a prescaler of 9 and a ARR of 58799. Those numbers give me 6.67ms period on overflow interrupt or 150hz 2016-07-23T09:26:19 < Shavik> Although it appears its more like 280us on the scope.. so bit confused 2016-07-23T09:29:36 < Shavik> Sorry. It's 150us between overflows to be exact 2016-07-23T09:40:19 < Chris_M> Shavik: you sure your clock is configured properly 2016-07-23T09:40:56 < Chris_M> I just tested and I get about 6.5mS with a 96MHz clock abd a prescalar of 9 2016-07-23T09:41:28 < Shavik> Hmm perhaps mine isn't then 2016-07-23T09:41:41 < Chris_M> Shavik: which STM? TIM2 is on APB1 for the F411 2016-07-23T09:41:49 < Shavik> F401 2016-07-23T09:41:51 < Chris_M> differen't clock to APB2 2016-07-23T09:42:15 < Shavik> APB1 is at 84Mhz 2016-07-23T09:42:19 < Shavik> Timer Clocks that is 2016-07-23T09:42:44 < Shavik> May be frowned upon but here is my clock setup in Cube https://gyazo.com/9baa114c88798f61fab67e9dd35a32bf 2016-07-23T09:43:30 < Shavik> This is assuming the generated clock setup is correct heh 2016-07-23T09:43:48 < Shavik> Appears that it should be at least in part. My serial port baud rates are correct so there is that 2016-07-23T09:44:00 < Shavik> As well as my I2S clock timings 2016-07-23T09:44:45 < Chris_M> seems alright 2016-07-23T09:45:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-23T09:46:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.83] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T09:46:36 < Shavik> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h17iddftcswcfo3/IMG_20160723_014559.jpg?dl=0 The blue trace is toggled every overflow 2016-07-23T09:46:48 < Shavik> alternates in otherwords 2016-07-23T09:52:10 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t15mld60ywmpm.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-23T09:53:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T09:57:56 < ReadError> http://fortune.com/2016/07/22/just-as-i-imagined-pokemon-go-finally-launches-in-japan-sparking-frenzy/ 2016-07-23T09:58:00 < ReadError> we know where dongs is 2016-07-23T10:00:15 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-07-23T10:12:25 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-23T10:15:10 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T10:19:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-23T10:30:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.48] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T10:34:43 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T10:36:06 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-23T10:39:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.170.252] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-23T10:41:07 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T10:44:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T11:13:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-23T11:16:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-23T11:18:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T11:45:26 -!- zygron_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T11:45:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-23T11:45:29 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T11:47:16 < ReadError> https://store.invensense.com/ProductDetail/ICM20608G-InvenSense-Inc/559402/ 2016-07-23T11:47:35 < ReadError> Market Status: NR/ND 2016-07-23T11:47:47 < ReadError> it just came out a year ago, confuse 2016-07-23T11:48:40 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-23T11:50:44 < ReadError> https://store.invensense.com/ProductDetail/ICM20689-InvenSense-Inc/593892/ 2016-07-23T11:50:44 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-23T11:50:50 < ReadError> droner version 2016-07-23T11:50:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T11:51:01 < ReadError> 'request data sheet' gtfo 2016-07-23T11:51:34 < ReadError> https://www.invensense.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/DS-ICM-20689-v1.0.pdf 2016-07-23T11:53:34 < ReadError> hmm looks like they shared the package/pinout of mpu-6000 2016-07-23T11:56:30 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T11:56:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-23T12:04:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T12:04:34 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-23T12:11:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-23T12:43:01 -!- zygron_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-07-23T13:10:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T13:12:45 < dongs> http://www.analog.com/media/en/training-seminars/tutorials/MT-100.pdf 2016-07-23T13:14:21 < ReadError> how many did you catch dongs 2016-07-23T13:14:47 < dongs> around 100, i think im level 9-ish 2016-07-23T13:15:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T13:17:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-23T13:19:21 < BrainDamage> did you start layouting a gps and wifi spoofer already? 2016-07-23T13:20:48 < dongs> haha 2016-07-23T13:31:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-23T13:31:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T13:42:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-07-23T13:54:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T14:01:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-23T14:02:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T14:18:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-23T14:18:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T14:23:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-23T14:24:14 < dongs> http://imgur.com/gallery/qh9yq shit works, omg. 2016-07-23T14:44:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T14:47:23 < Tectu> found Laurenceb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-74t6T-nhBc&feature=youtu.be&t=391 2016-07-23T14:49:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T14:49:45 < Laurenceb__> XKCD, a webcomic of smugness, out-pedanting pedants, and more smugness. And shitty stickmen. 2016-07-23T14:58:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.134] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T15:02:32 < Tectu> How is Laurenceb__ today? 2016-07-23T15:02:55 < Laurenceb__> in the mood for some trolling 2016-07-23T15:04:53 < Tectu> better troll this: https://hackaday.com/2016/07/23/liddiard-omnidirectional-wheels/ 2016-07-23T15:09:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@m83-185-247-116.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T15:11:30 < Tectu> also no arduino shield compatible connector 2016-07-23T15:43:32 < Lux> ReadError: did they link the full datasheet on their site now ? or is that some hidden link ? 2016-07-23T15:44:00 < ReadError> Lux it was hidden 2016-07-23T15:44:14 < Lux> thanks, i was allready looking for that =) 2016-07-23T15:44:57 < Lux> what's also interesting, dji does temperature stabilisation on those sensors in their new drones 2016-07-23T15:45:11 < Lux> they have a small thermally insulated box with heaters 2016-07-23T15:45:13 < ReadError> check out https://store.invensense.com/datasheets/invensense/ICM-20600-Product-Brief-v1.0.pdf 2016-07-23T15:47:46 < ReadError> http://www.invensense.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/product-selector-motion_1.pdf 2016-07-23T15:48:13 < ReadError> ICM-20602 looks good but limited stock 2016-07-23T15:54:01 < Lux> yeah all that stuff is pretty new 2016-07-23T15:55:21 < ReadError> pinout is the same 2016-07-23T15:55:32 < ReadError> so if I go w another in the newish series 2016-07-23T15:55:37 < ReadError> shouldnt be too bad to switch 2016-07-23T15:55:39 < Lux> ReadError: did you find a full datasheet for the 20602 too ? 2016-07-23T15:55:49 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TP4056-1A-Lipo-Battery-Charging-Board-Charger-Module-Lithium-Battery-DIY-MICRO-/262433126027?hash=item3d1a3bb68b:g:qSEAAOSwZJlXNDDX 2016-07-23T15:55:50 < ReadError> nein ;( 2016-07-23T15:55:54 < Lux> same as 6500 ? 2016-07-23T15:55:54 < ReadError> err wrong link 2016-07-23T15:55:57 < ReadError> but yea just the brief 2016-07-23T15:56:00 < ReadError> https://store.invensense.com/datasheets/invensense/ICM-20602-Product-Brief-v1.0.pdf 2016-07-23T15:56:13 < ReadError> i imagine the registers are same as 6xxx shit 2016-07-23T15:56:20 < ReadError> duno about who_am_i 2016-07-23T15:57:55 < ReadError> https://store.invensense.com/datasheets/invensense/ICM-20601%20draft%20product%20spec%207_9_2015.pdf 2016-07-23T15:59:23 < ReadError> tried poking at the filename no luck 2016-07-23T16:00:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-23T16:02:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T16:03:17 < Lux> hmm the 20689 replacing mpu6000/6050 isn't even pin compatible :/ 2016-07-23T16:03:22 < Lux> retards 2016-07-23T16:03:38 < ReadError> you sure? 2016-07-23T16:03:46 < ReadError> I looked and was pretty sure it was 2016-07-23T16:03:53 < ReadError> i didnt look super close though 2016-07-23T16:03:59 < Lux> 6050 should be ok but not 6000 2016-07-23T16:04:16 < Lux> makes sense i guess as a lot more use the 6050 2016-07-23T16:04:35 < ReadError> nCS 2016-07-23T16:04:38 < ReadError> damn 2016-07-23T16:04:51 < ReadError> oh a bunch of pins 2016-07-23T16:06:10 < Lux> ya 2016-07-23T16:06:22 < Lux> but you could do a drop in replacement with a 6050 2016-07-23T16:07:08 < Lux> you don't really need 1khz loop rate on a quad anyways 2016-07-23T16:07:22 < ReadError> my endgame is ICM-20602 2016-07-23T16:07:27 < Lux> so if you use the fifo and filter all the samles at 1khz that'd work too 2016-07-23T16:07:39 < ReadError> https://www.cdiweb.com/ProductDetail/ICM20602-InvenSense-Inc/593890/ i can buy it now 2016-07-23T16:07:47 < ReadError> i just cant read how to use it i guess 2016-07-23T16:08:30 < Lux> you can prob drop them a line 2016-07-23T16:08:36 < Lux> and they'll send something 2016-07-23T16:08:43 < ReadError> yea ill call them monday 2016-07-23T16:09:00 < ReadError> might have just overlooked it 2016-07-23T16:09:05 < Lux> just dunno how responsive they'll be to a private customer 2016-07-23T16:09:13 < ReadError> nah ill hit up CDI 2016-07-23T16:09:18 < Lux> imo invensense allready has pretty bad support 2016-07-23T16:09:25 < ReadError> ive bought bulk from them before so they'll think im legit 2016-07-23T16:09:32 < Lux> cool 2016-07-23T16:11:08 < dongs> lawl 2016-07-23T16:11:20 < dongs> clonererror buying "bulk" for "hobby projects" 2016-07-23T16:11:25 < dongs> k 2016-07-23T16:11:32 < ReadError> no i bought your stupid baros 2016-07-23T16:12:50 < ReadError> there was something else i got from them, forget 2016-07-23T16:16:05 < ReadError> weave look like some curly fries 2016-07-23T16:21:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-23T16:22:01 < dongs> https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/geforce-gtx1060-nvidia-brings-pascal-to-the-masses/ 2016-07-23T16:22:04 < dongs> nice 2016-07-23T16:29:23 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-23T16:33:51 < dongs> sure 2016-07-23T16:33:56 < dongs> i didnt read that far 2016-07-23T16:36:17 < Laurenceb__> what about 1x 6 pin cracker? 2016-07-23T16:38:12 < Tectu> hmm, I have a 970 2016-07-23T16:38:27 < ReadError> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2RC-0034-00073 2016-07-23T16:39:07 < Steffanx> Better get a pci-e nvm ssd ReadError 2016-07-23T16:39:13 < ReadError> Steffanx ya got one ;) 2016-07-23T16:39:24 < Steffanx> intel 950? 2016-07-23T16:39:33 < Steffanx> 1.2TB? 2016-07-23T16:39:44 < ReadError> samsung 950 2016-07-23T16:39:57 < Steffanx> oh it's intel 720 maybe? 2016-07-23T16:40:03 < ReadError> nah not 1.2TB :( 2016-07-23T16:40:08 < Steffanx> hmm, no also not that 2016-07-23T16:40:13 < Steffanx> Tectu help me. 2016-07-23T16:40:23 < ReadError> thinking of the samsung? 2016-07-23T16:40:28 < ReadError> 950 pro 2016-07-23T16:40:43 < Steffanx> no, Tectu knows all about this. 2016-07-23T16:41:15 < Steffanx> intel 750 it is :P 2016-07-23T16:42:03 < ReadError> only put the 256gb in tho 2016-07-23T16:42:09 < ReadError> its just OS drive 2016-07-23T16:42:21 < ReadError> then other SSD for apps/virtuals 2016-07-23T16:45:19 < Steffanx> and the spinning rust in the server? 2016-07-23T16:45:47 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-23T16:46:16 < Tectu> Intel 750 <3 2016-07-23T16:46:28 < Tectu> what a bad way to spend 800 bucks that was. 2016-07-23T16:46:42 < Steffanx> Hah. 2016-07-23T16:46:58 < dongs> tectu is floating in cash from jewGFX sales 2016-07-23T16:47:04 < Steffanx> 800chf probably? So $1k 2016-07-23T16:47:06 < Steffanx> ? 2016-07-23T16:47:36 < Tectu> nah, it's pretty much chf == usd 2016-07-23T16:47:41 < Steffanx> wut no. Since when that is the case 2016-07-23T16:47:52 < Tectu> since like june 2015 2016-07-23T16:48:01 < Steffanx> oh, Laurenceb__. 2016-07-23T16:48:46 < Tectu> Steffanx, http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CHF&view=5Y 2016-07-23T16:49:20 < Tectu> Steffanx, I obviously wouldn't spend $1k on an SSD 2016-07-23T16:49:29 < Steffanx> no. 2016-07-23T16:49:30 < dongs> but 800 is ok? 2016-07-23T16:49:48 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-23T16:50:03 * ReadError popcorn 2016-07-23T16:51:34 < Tectu> it felt okay at the time 2016-07-23T16:51:45 < Tectu> not that I regret it, I'd probably just not do it again :D 2016-07-23T16:52:24 < Lux> after seeing the real world gains of those ssds it seems pretty useless for that money 2016-07-23T16:52:57 < Lux> like save 2 secs and pay a few hundred bucks more 2016-07-23T17:00:54 < Steffanx> 2 sec. at most. 2016-07-23T17:02:44 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/KKr0NAv.png 2016-07-23T17:02:50 < ReadError> fav part about new build 2016-07-23T17:02:55 < ReadError> they laughed 2016-07-23T17:04:21 < englishman> chrome.exe 2016-07-23T17:04:34 < Steffanx> they? 2016-07-23T17:05:21 < englishman> chrome adjusts bloat based on physical memory 2016-07-23T17:06:54 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/10jSrmT.png 2016-07-23T17:07:44 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-130-179.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T17:08:15 < Steffanx> close some tabs 2016-07-23T17:08:52 < Tectu> ReadError, why is your memory so slow? 2016-07-23T17:08:56 < Tectu> what platform is that? 2016-07-23T17:09:00 < Tectu> aren't you using XMP? 2016-07-23T17:09:03 < Tectu> http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/7a5aae6d9bc4.jpg 2016-07-23T17:09:15 < ReadError> I can adjust the profile i think 2016-07-23T17:09:34 < Tectu> is that an i7-6700k? 2016-07-23T17:10:04 < dongs> fuck, t ehre's no pokemon near my house at all 2016-07-23T17:10:05 < dongs> owned 2016-07-23T17:10:06 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-130-33.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-23T17:10:24 < Tectu> ReadError, ah no most likely not, that seems to be 2011, right? 2016-07-23T17:10:25 < Steffanx> there is this map they helps you iirc dongs 2016-07-23T17:10:38 < dongs> Steffanx: no, like, there's nothing near anyway. 2016-07-23T17:10:44 < dongs> but i thikn there's some at my office 2016-07-23T17:10:51 < dongs> ill check next week while going there. 2016-07-23T17:10:57 < Tectu> dongs, they only place them at interesting points. 2016-07-23T17:11:19 < dongs> tectu, i see what you're trying to say, but in jp they're also at every post office 2016-07-23T17:11:25 < dongs> so i expected one to be at my post office next door. 2016-07-23T17:11:26 < Tectu> I see 2016-07-23T17:11:35 < Steffanx> even near my house are at least 3 .. 2016-07-23T17:11:41 < Tectu> why do you guys know that stuff o.O 2016-07-23T17:11:58 < Tectu> also, don't pokemons move around and shit? 2016-07-23T17:11:59 < Steffanx> only know because pokevision.com knows 2016-07-23T17:12:01 < dongs> i drove through around 600km last 2 days, so I can tell where stuff is 2016-07-23T17:13:01 < Tectu> apparently I have three within 5min walk range 2016-07-23T17:13:13 < Steffanx> better hurry, they will be gone soon 2016-07-23T17:13:45 < dongs> ast hotel i was staying at last night, all i had to do was sit near window, and inaccurate GPS would place me randomly next to ~10 drop points. 2016-07-23T17:13:49 < Tectu> shit, I must have totally forgotten TO GIVE A FUCK 2016-07-23T17:13:50 < ReadError> Tectu 2016-07-23T17:13:54 < ReadError> moo: os: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise - (10.0.10586) up: 4days 18hrs 14mins 44secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz (x64) at 3300MHz (19% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 -2.00GB res: 3840x2160 32bit 59Hz ram: 47800/65447MB (73.04%) [|||||||---] hdd: C:\ 121.69GB/237.92GB D:\ 510.23GB/931.39GB E:\ 38.93GB/465.63GB net: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - 1000MB/s 2016-07-23T17:13:54 < ReadError> 7.5GB In 22.18GB Out 2016-07-23T17:14:06 < dongs> enterprise, lol 2016-07-23T17:14:13 < dongs> also ancient GTX 2016-07-23T17:14:18 < dongs> ancient i7 2016-07-23T17:14:20 < Tectu> yeah, you are poor 2016-07-23T17:14:27 < Tectu> better uninstall IRC 2016-07-23T17:14:40 < ReadError> its really at 4.36 tho 2016-07-23T17:14:56 < ReadError> 5820k is way mo better than the 6700k crap 2016-07-23T17:15:43 < Tectu> yeah, I was wondering whether I should go with 2011 or not 2016-07-23T17:15:45 < Tectu> decided not to 2016-07-23T17:15:56 < Tectu> although core count would have been nice for virtualization 2016-07-23T17:15:58 < ReadError> the new intel shit is too.. 2016-07-23T17:15:58 * Steffanx gets popcorn. 2016-07-23T17:16:12 < ReadError> partially why i went w/ it 2016-07-23T17:16:22 < ReadError> mobo supports them 2016-07-23T17:16:32 < Tectu> but better enable XMP dude 2016-07-23T17:16:36 < Tectu> unless you bought crappy RAM that is 2016-07-23T17:16:51 < dongs> wat 2016-07-23T17:16:54 < dongs> who cares 2016-07-23T17:16:59 < ReadError> Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz (PC4-24000) C15 Memory Kit - Black 2016-07-23T17:17:01 < dongs> overclocking ram is like the most retarded shit 2016-07-23T17:17:24 < Tectu> ReadError, I go the same, although 4x 16GB cuz 1511 only does 4 DIMMs 2016-07-23T17:17:34 < Tectu> dongs, it's not overclocking, the RAM does it natively 2016-07-23T17:17:48 < dongs> im aware of XMP profile is. 2016-07-23T17:17:50 < dongs> its still useless. 2016-07-23T17:18:01 < Tectu> why do you think so? 2016-07-23T17:18:06 < dongs> why do you think its not 2016-07-23T17:18:32 < Tectu> well it's pretty much 2GHz vs 3GHz 2016-07-23T17:18:42 < Tectu> not sure how timings play with that though 2016-07-23T17:19:09 < dongs> lol why teh fuck is 3dmark costs money 2016-07-23T17:19:16 < dongs> dont they get all sponsored by gfx card makers 2016-07-23T17:19:36 < Tectu> + extra money by selling it 2016-07-23T17:19:37 < Tectu> sounds good. 2016-07-23T17:19:54 < Tectu> I bet it's 95% reviewers who purchase pro versions 2016-07-23T17:20:16 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/YiExj3U.png 2016-07-23T17:20:21 < ReadError> i download for u 2016-07-23T17:20:40 < BrainDamage> http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ 2016-07-23T17:21:11 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/RvxItHu.png 2016-07-23T17:21:30 < Tectu> this is what I got: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/8969e25b00b0.jpg 2016-07-23T17:21:35 < Tectu> just enabled XMP, though, no manual tweaking 2016-07-23T17:22:03 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/8apyQT1.png 2016-07-23T17:22:03 < Tectu> BrainDamage, I think you wanted to link to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uUXRcDZBw 2016-07-23T17:22:34 < ReadError> i duno what im looking at 2016-07-23T17:22:52 < dongs> ReadError: that last profile 2016-07-23T17:22:55 < dongs> anyway, you set that shit in bios 2016-07-23T17:22:58 < dongs> and hope it boots 2016-07-23T17:23:05 < dongs> all i see is shit increasing tho 2016-07-23T17:23:05 < dongs> lol 2016-07-23T17:23:13 < dongs> i thought all those delays were supposed to be smaller = better 2016-07-23T17:23:30 < ReadError> yea wtf Tectu 2016-07-23T17:23:33 < dongs> also higher voltage 2016-07-23T17:23:35 < dongs> fuck that 2016-07-23T17:23:36 < Tectu> dongs, they are number of clock cycles 2016-07-23T17:23:43 < dongs> howtoburnyourram.jpg 2016-07-23T17:23:55 < dongs> why would I run something sp0ec'd at 1.2V at 1.35V 2016-07-23T17:24:24 < Tectu> those things are spec'd at 1.35V dude 2016-07-23T17:24:32 < Tectu> the RAM natively supports that XMP crap 2016-07-23T17:24:53 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/OLWSHij.png my ram is so pro, it doesnt even have XMP garbage 2016-07-23T17:24:54 < ReadError> damn prices must have gone up 2016-07-23T17:25:01 < ReadError> i paid 74$ a kit back in april 2016-07-23T17:25:46 < Tectu> wut? 2016-07-23T17:25:53 < Tectu> I paid almost 400.- for mine 2016-07-23T17:25:59 < dongs> you got ripped 2016-07-23T17:26:06 < Tectu> nah, it was the same price almost everywhere 2016-07-23T17:26:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T17:26:18 < ReadError> well 74$ per 2x8GB 2016-07-23T17:26:21 < Tectu> one dealer had it 2.- cheaper, the others were about to same and two had it 15.- more expensive 2016-07-23T17:26:23 < dongs> i bought 32gb (2 16gb sticks) for like 70-something per stick 2016-07-23T17:26:24 < dongs> or les 2016-07-23T17:26:29 < ReadError> so ~300$ for 64gb\ 2016-07-23T17:26:36 < Tectu> ReadError, ah, that makes more sense 2016-07-23T17:26:39 < dongs> pro samsung shit 2016-07-23T17:26:47 < dongs> 8gb modules are lose 2016-07-23T17:26:47 < ReadError> Tectu needed 8 dimms 2016-07-23T17:27:06 < Tectu> ReadError, 1151 doesn't do more than 4 afaik 2016-07-23T17:27:16 < Tectu> ReadError, also, why does your CPU limit to 64? I thought all 2011 are capable of 128 2016-07-23T17:27:22 < dongs> no 2016-07-23T17:27:26 < Tectu> apparently I just suck 2016-07-23T17:27:46 < dongs> pretty sure 1S stuff is at 64 cuz intel doesnt wanna kill off 2S sales 2016-07-23T17:27:55 < dongs> plus until recently you couldnt even get 16gb modules 2016-07-23T17:27:59 < dongs> until DDR4 came out that is 2016-07-23T17:28:07 < dongs> so doing 64gb with 4 slots was kinda hard. 2016-07-23T17:28:54 < Tectu> but 5th generation i7 was the latest generation on 2011 or am I completely wrong here? 2016-07-23T17:29:01 < Tectu> and I have seen 128gb 2011 systems 2016-07-23T17:29:36 < ReadError> http://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,82932 2016-07-23T17:31:01 < Tectu> ReadError, yeah I looked at that. 2011 is really nice. it's just a lot more expensive than 2011 2016-07-23T17:31:05 < Tectu> than 1151 I mean 2016-07-23T17:31:47 < ReadError> CPU I paid $280 for iirc 2016-07-23T17:31:55 < dongs> lawl ancientwell 2016-07-23T17:32:19 < dongs> and no intelgfx 2016-07-23T17:32:20 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-23T17:32:25 < ReadError> yea because why 2016-07-23T17:32:33 < upgrdman> with sli, do the drivers do all the magic, or do games/apps need to support sli? 2016-07-23T17:32:34 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T17:32:43 < dongs> pretty sure its both 2016-07-23T17:32:45 < ReadError> sli and drivers is lul 2016-07-23T17:32:46 < Tectu> ReadError, it's somewhat impressive that you get it to 4.4GHz 2016-07-23T17:32:47 < dongs> who teh fuck needs sli 2016-07-23T17:32:55 < ReadError> Tectu yea thats just on air 2016-07-23T17:32:59 < Tectu> upgrdman, games need to support it as well. 2016-07-23T17:32:59 < dongs> "get"? 2016-07-23T17:33:02 < dongs> isnt it just automatic 2016-07-23T17:33:10 < dongs> intel turbo whatever shite 2016-07-23T17:33:13 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-23T17:33:18 < dongs> only one core gets to 4.4 2016-07-23T17:33:21 < Tectu> upgrdman, still no access to my methlab 2016-07-23T17:33:23 < ReadError> not to what i have it at 2016-07-23T17:33:25 < dongs> the rest are clocked down 2016-07-23T17:33:28 < dongs> oic k, wahtever 2016-07-23T17:33:31 < dongs> lol @ overclocking in 2016 2016-07-23T17:33:51 < upgrdman> im kinda tempted to go full R2retard and build a super expensive box with dual gtx1080 2016-07-23T17:34:10 < upgrdman> even tho the last game i played was ut2004 2016-07-23T17:34:16 < dongs> upgrdman: 1060 just came out 2016-07-23T17:34:19 < upgrdman> i wanna get back into shit 2016-07-23T17:34:24 < dongs> gr8 card 2016-07-23T17:34:32 < upgrdman> and game at 4k60 2016-07-23T17:34:34 < englishman> 1080 is great for hotline miami 2016-07-23T17:34:41 < Tectu> upgrdman, go grab the latest doom and lets have some fun 2016-07-23T17:34:44 < dongs> i thought only ohsix played that 2016-07-23T17:34:54 < Tectu> nah, I'm retarded too 2016-07-23T17:35:15 < Steffanx> also going VR upgrdman? 2016-07-23T17:35:19 < upgrdman> tectu, wut latest, doom4 or is 5 or 6 oit? 2016-07-23T17:35:19 < upgrdman> i have doom3 2016-07-23T17:35:25 < dongs> some new doom is out 2016-07-23T17:35:27 < dongs> denuvo 2016-07-23T17:35:27 < upgrdman> have not gamed since 04 2016-07-23T17:35:31 < dongs> i think steam only 2016-07-23T17:35:31 < Tectu> upgrdman, it's just called doom :p 2016-07-23T17:35:35 < dongs> so non-starter 2016-07-23T17:35:52 < upgrdman> steff, hadnt though about it, does the card matter for vr? 2016-07-23T17:35:54 < Tectu> upgrdman, cuz these days fancy managers and marketing people decide that shit. so after doom, doom 2, doom 3 obviuosly the next one is doom 2016-07-23T17:35:57 < ReadError> steam is alright 2016-07-23T17:36:07 < ReadError> no love for gaben? 2016-07-23T17:36:16 < Tectu> ReadError, what's ur steam acc? 2016-07-23T17:36:17 < Steffanx> upgrdman, yes.. afaik VR is pretty much hard core gfx demanding. 2016-07-23T17:36:25 < upgrdman> ya 2016-07-23T17:36:28 < dongs> Steffanx: except its not 2016-07-23T17:36:39 < dongs> its a simple shader that warps shit for the lenses 2016-07-23T17:36:42 < Tectu> why would you do VR anyway, sounds like a thing only desperate men do. 2016-07-23T17:36:49 < dongs> like, even a ghettocard can do it. 2016-07-23T17:36:50 < upgrdman> but like can any gtx1080 do vr, or do cards need like special ports or shit 2016-07-23T17:36:57 < dongs> any 2016-07-23T17:36:58 < Tectu> dongs, vr is pretty hard on gfx 2016-07-23T17:37:14 < englishman> isnt it on consoles, how can it be steam only 2016-07-23T17:37:16 < dongs> Tectu: maybe on uGFX cuz you suck at coding ^_^ 2016-07-23T17:37:19 < Tectu> upgrdman, any new recent nvidia card comes with vr ready crap. not sure about the AMD party 2016-07-23T17:37:32 < Tectu> hah :p 2016-07-23T17:37:36 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-23T17:37:48 < Steffanx> Can you enable some nicer mode today dongs? 2016-07-23T17:37:48 < dongs> englishman: something developed/released on consoles is automatic non-starter 2016-07-23T17:37:51 < Tectu> upgrdman, that being said, it's probably marketing again. You can get a low end vr-ready card. 2016-07-23T17:37:54 < dongs> because PC will be a port of shitty thing 2016-07-23T17:38:02 < englishman> yes i just heard it runs like shit on pc 2016-07-23T17:38:04 < dongs> it just also happens that same shit will be on steam as well 2016-07-23T17:38:18 < upgrdman> that rectal designs r5 case looks sweet 2016-07-23T17:38:27 < dongs> rectal designs? 2016-07-23T17:38:35 < dongs> does it look liek a gaping anus? 2016-07-23T17:38:36 < Tectu> dongs, you're very annoying today. 2016-07-23T17:38:45 < upgrdman> s/rectal/fractal 2016-07-23T17:38:46 < Tectu> upgrdman, yeah, r5 is nice. 2016-07-23T17:39:38 < dongs> damn so many holes in it 2016-07-23T17:39:42 < dongs> shit would be a fucking dust collector 2016-07-23T17:39:57 < dongs> like holes in top of case, what the fuck 2016-07-23T17:41:21 < Tectu> if you remove the cover on those that are installed by default you'd install an exhaust fan there, Mr. angry-mood 2016-07-23T17:42:02 < dongs> how would fan help against passively falling down dust 2016-07-23T17:42:06 < dongs> if anything, it would help sucking it in 2016-07-23T17:42:24 < englishman> just screw mobo and hd to some mdf 2016-07-23T17:42:26 < englishman> mount under desk 2016-07-23T17:42:32 < englishman> ultimate airflow 2016-07-23T17:42:33 < upgrdman> exhaust fan 2016-07-23T17:42:45 < ReadError> you can get filters 2016-07-23T17:42:56 < Tectu> Mr. vape gotta know that 2016-07-23T17:43:00 < Tectu> ah wait, that was Rob235, sorry 2016-07-23T17:43:07 < ReadError> or cases with them 2016-07-23T17:43:20 < Rob235> ? 2016-07-23T17:46:00 < upgrdman> is itx smaller than microatx? 2016-07-23T17:46:21 < englishman> mini itx? 2016-07-23T17:46:23 < englishman> its tiny 2016-07-23T17:46:37 < englishman> usually smt cpu 2016-07-23T17:46:38 < dongs> miniitx only has one 16x slot 2016-07-23T17:46:43 < dongs> nawh there's socket shit. 2016-07-23T17:46:46 < englishman> ah 2016-07-23T17:46:49 < dongs> wifecop has some i3 trash in intel miniitx board 2016-07-23T17:47:04 < englishman> dono last one i bought was this j1800 or whatever 2016-07-23T17:47:07 < englishman> with parport 2016-07-23T17:47:14 < dongs> yeah, thats atom / celewrong aids 2016-07-23T17:47:22 < dongs> the board used by NEODEN4 2016-07-23T17:47:23 < upgrdman> damn, this looked sexy, but fuck itx then http://phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-ITX.html 2016-07-23T17:47:26 < englishman> haha 2016-07-23T17:47:50 < Tectu> upgrdman, itx is like 17x17cm 2016-07-23T17:47:50 < dongs> if you spend more than $40 on a PC case, you're doing it SERIOUSLY WRONG 2016-07-23T17:48:05 < Rob235> my gaming htpc is a mini itx 2016-07-23T17:48:11 < englishman> thats pretty big for a mini itx case 2016-07-23T17:48:32 < upgrdman> hmm the evolv version is matx 2016-07-23T17:48:44 < dongs> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0064LWISQ thats a mini itx 2016-07-23T17:48:53 < Tectu> dongs, my previous gaming PC was itx. was a case with handles, nice for LAN parties 2016-07-23T17:48:58 < Rob235> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811205012 2016-07-23T17:49:08 < dongs> i think taht huge trash is so you can fit a fullsize gfx card in there 2016-07-23T17:49:09 < Tectu> upgrdman, ^ 2016-07-23T17:49:24 < dongs> Overclockers.com Approved Award 2016-07-23T17:49:31 < dongs> buying now, with confidence 2016-07-23T17:49:50 < Tectu> dongs, are you on your period? 2016-07-23T17:50:08 < dongs> also, does it say "hadron" anywhere on case in plastic letters, if so , require swapping d/r 2016-07-23T17:50:26 < englishman> upgrdman: just mount mobo to wood with 3mm screws and standoffs, get this http://www.ebay.ca/itm/butts/201466654044 and put on desk, bam ultimate airflow and cooling and quiet 2016-07-23T17:50:33 < Rob235> dongs: no it doesn't 2016-07-23T17:51:07 < upgrdman> englishman, i want sexy. not worried about price 2016-07-23T17:51:15 < englishman> sexy cpu case 2016-07-23T17:51:20 < englishman> doesnt exist 2016-07-23T17:51:42 < dongs> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7GfAV-mRuGM/UsrB5BbzvfI/AAAAAAAAACM/TBgncs10tgs/s1600/IMG_20140105_144223_462.jpg 2016-07-23T17:51:45 < upgrdman> sexy and small but able to do serious power 2016-07-23T17:51:45 < upgrdman> like full gpu 2016-07-23T17:51:47 < Rob235> upgrdman: I think mine looks sexy but the link you posted is pretty good too 2016-07-23T17:51:58 < englishman> no dongs nothing like that 2016-07-23T17:52:01 < englishman> thats too much shit 2016-07-23T17:52:04 < dongs> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6lgbXY1MDt4/UsrB6-_dQGI/AAAAAAAAACk/kGztdrz8iRA/s1600/IMG_20140105_144300_005.jpg 2016-07-23T17:52:12 < Rob235> I have a geforce 980 in mine, was top of the line when it came out 2016-07-23T17:52:16 < englishman> and must be ancient, optical drive wat 2016-07-23T17:52:27 < dongs> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s4/83-14019_3.jpg 2016-07-23T17:52:28 < dongs> just get this 2016-07-23T17:52:33 < englishman> all those fans, why add all that noise 2016-07-23T17:53:07 < Tectu> super optimal airflow towards those cooling fins. 2016-07-23T17:53:26 < Tectu> also, fans on both sides are intake, wtf. 2016-07-23T17:53:32 < dongs> > use passive heatsink CPU cooler 2016-07-23T17:53:33 < Tectu> ah no, I am talking shit, sorry 2016-07-23T17:53:41 < dongs> > put 6 fans on the ends of "enclosure" 2016-07-23T17:54:01 < dongs> cuz i tihnk there's at least 2 or 3 fans on teh other side too 2016-07-23T17:57:05 < Rob235> dongs did you see final product?: https://youtu.be/ta_b3twaKzA 2016-07-23T17:57:38 < dongs> lol wow 2016-07-23T17:59:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-23T18:05:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T18:10:05 < Steffanx> Im impressed too Rob235. Especially on how fast you did this compared to the python/mathplotlib crap 2016-07-23T18:10:32 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-23T18:11:10 < Rob235> yea making that terrible matplotlib decision helped speed up progress on the good version though 2016-07-23T18:21:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Develope-for-Arma/ attn R2COM 2016-07-23T18:22:21 < Laurenceb__> violent video games man http://i.imgur.com/dPYXobA.jpg 2016-07-23T18:25:18 < Laurenceb__> "Guys I think I know just the place an angry NEET loser would head" 2016-07-23T18:25:37 < Tectu> Rob235, why are you doing this with processing if I may ask? 2016-07-23T18:28:41 < Rob235> not sure, was just looking for something to use and I thought about the teapot demo and how id like to incorporate that into the dashboard so I decided to try it 2016-07-23T18:29:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-23T18:31:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-23T18:38:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T18:44:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@m83-185-247-116.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-23T18:52:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T18:52:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-23T18:56:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:05:34 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-23T19:08:20 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:20:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:26:06 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-23T19:26:31 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:28:06 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-23T19:28:50 -!- Bingo600 [~cfo@62.61.142.24.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:28:58 -!- Bingo600 [~cfo@62.61.142.24.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-23T19:30:59 -!- Bingo600 [~cfo@62.61.142.24.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:34:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@m83-185-247-116.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:36:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-23T19:36:31 -!- Tom_itx [~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T19:36:35 -!- Tom_itx [~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-23T19:38:18 -!- zygron [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T20:02:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-23T20:33:40 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T20:38:41 < Laurenceb__> wow I hate c++ 2016-07-23T20:38:57 < Laurenceb__> its like trying to tie string between trees in a forest 2016-07-23T20:39:03 < Laurenceb__> each tree being a class 2016-07-23T20:41:58 < BrainDamage> generally c++'s problem is interacting with other people's code, as long as you have a self contained project you can chose style and featureset to not have surprises 2016-07-23T20:43:06 < Laurenceb__> I think in future I'll try to make it all a single class 2016-07-23T20:43:19 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-07-23T20:43:33 < Laurenceb__> right now I've just sent all day designing myself into a corner :( 2016-07-23T20:43:44 < zyp> haha 2016-07-23T20:43:48 < zyp> wtf are you doing? 2016-07-23T20:44:40 < Laurenceb__> dunno lol 2016-07-23T20:44:50 < Laurenceb__> maybe I need a strategy 2016-07-23T20:45:07 < Laurenceb__> time to push to github 2016-07-23T20:46:34 < zyp> class borders should correspond to natural borders in the code 2016-07-23T20:46:37 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/tabdialog.cpp 2016-07-23T20:46:44 < zyp> sounds like you're dividing it weird 2016-07-23T20:46:51 < zyp> or something 2016-07-23T20:47:03 < Laurenceb__> line 75 to 77 2016-07-23T20:47:09 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T20:47:13 < Laurenceb__> thats a poor plan as I cant make those connections 2016-07-23T20:48:45 < Laurenceb__> time to admit I have no clue what I'm doing lol 2016-07-23T20:49:02 < zyp> I have no clue what you're doing either 2016-07-23T20:49:08 < Laurenceb__> other than button click -> set mask bits being the aim 2016-07-23T20:49:24 < zyp> buttons are part of which class? 2016-07-23T20:49:34 < zyp> I mean, owned by which class? 2016-07-23T20:50:31 < Laurenceb__> the GraphTab class 2016-07-23T20:51:07 < zyp> and the actions you want to do is done by what class? 2016-07-23T20:51:14 < Laurenceb__> ConnectionManager class 2016-07-23T20:52:23 < zyp> and how are these classes owned? 2016-07-23T20:53:20 < englishman> Laurenceb__: maybe you should have used processing 2016-07-23T20:53:25 < zyp> I assume there's a hierarchy up to some common parent? 2016-07-23T20:53:39 < Laurenceb__> yeah... 2016-07-23T20:53:51 < Laurenceb__> sigh time to draw diagrams on paper 2016-07-23T20:56:46 < Laurenceb__> maybe I can haxor it into working, but in general how do you solve this problem? 2016-07-23T20:57:05 < Laurenceb__> the class hierarchy is top down from "main window" ? 2016-07-23T20:57:27 < Laurenceb__> then you reference other stuff "up" to parent class then down again or something? 2016-07-23T20:57:42 < zyp> you solve it by having a sane hierarchy and clean seperation of concerns between classes 2016-07-23T20:59:02 < zyp> I'm not sure why you're passing connectionDialog and fileDialog into GraphTab, that seems weird 2016-07-23T21:00:00 < zyp> are you keeping them around but hidden when not open? to hold state? 2016-07-23T21:04:19 < zyp> and yes, ownership of objects is usually rooted in something like the application itself, application owns windows, windows owns a hierarchy of what's displayed on them 2016-07-23T21:05:12 < zyp> shared state can be encapsulated into separate objects that's owned by a parent of everything that needs it, and then passed down the hierarchy as references or something to everything that needs it 2016-07-23T21:07:04 < zyp> and if you talk to hardcore OOP guys, they'll tell you to use some sort of dependency injection for that 2016-07-23T21:07:17 < zyp> but most of the time I find that the extra hassle of that is not really worth it 2016-07-23T21:13:19 < kakimir> why is nylon bag used in resin infusion? 2016-07-23T21:13:43 < ReadError> vs ? 2016-07-23T21:13:51 < kakimir> why not just utility store plastic bag? 2016-07-23T21:14:38 < ReadError> probably permeability of air and adhesion to surface maybe 2016-07-23T21:15:50 < kakimir> I think there must be some high temp prepreg vacuum bagging use for it and then it has just been generalized for all vacuum baggings 2016-07-23T21:16:06 < kakimir> or is there different bagging for hi temp? 2016-07-23T21:16:11 < Laurenceb__> ok thanks for advice 2016-07-23T21:16:30 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: prob due to use of high temperatures 2016-07-23T21:16:55 < Laurenceb__> I've used plastic freezer bags for room temp 2 part epoxy based CF parts 2016-07-23T21:17:00 < Sync> kakimir: bagging film is pore free 2016-07-23T21:17:12 < Sync> most regular foil is not made to be gas tight 2016-07-23T21:17:12 < kakimir> oh.. 2016-07-23T21:17:22 < Sync> you can use trash bags 2016-07-23T21:17:26 < Sync> but it sucks 2016-07-23T21:17:33 < kakimir> how? 2016-07-23T21:17:34 < Laurenceb__> heh it worked "well enough" for me 2016-07-23T21:17:38 < ReadError> i imagine pealing it off is fun 2016-07-23T21:17:51 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: PE peels straight off 2016-07-23T21:17:57 < Sync> you have pores, which are annoying 2016-07-23T21:18:00 < Sync> otherwise it works fine 2016-07-23T21:18:06 < kakimir> can I reuse anything? 2016-07-23T21:18:09 < Laurenceb__> Sync: yeah I didn't care 2016-07-23T21:18:21 < Laurenceb__> if you are v careful you can get pretty good results 2016-07-23T21:18:25 < Sync> the bagging foil? you can, but it is a hassle 2016-07-23T21:18:25 < kakimir> or is it food for trash bin after use? 2016-07-23T21:18:33 < Sync> you usually jus throw it away 2016-07-23T21:18:44 < kakimir> why not use another side? 2016-07-23T21:19:06 < Sync> because the vacuum tape adheres to it? 2016-07-23T21:19:21 < kakimir> hmm 2016-07-23T21:19:30 < kakimir> cut wthe center out an use it for small shiet 2016-07-23T21:20:05 < Sync> not worth it 2016-07-23T21:21:43 < kakimir> Sync: show some pieces you have made? 2016-07-23T21:23:14 < Sync> don't have any pictures, usually repairing gliders, gotta work quick, no time for snaps 2016-07-23T21:23:45 < kakimir> glider as sail planes? 2016-07-23T21:23:52 < kakimir> gliders as RC? 2016-07-23T21:24:10 < Sync> gliders as in real planes 2016-07-23T21:24:49 < kakimir> good good 2016-07-23T21:30:22 < kakimir> any of your own? 2016-07-23T21:31:03 < kakimir> but how do you utilize vacuum infusion in glider repairs? 2016-07-23T21:31:19 < BrainDamage> do you plan to allah ackbar local town festival with your glider? 2016-07-23T21:31:20 < kakimir> you need a mold? 2016-07-23T21:32:15 < kakimir> BrainDamage: I.. 2016-07-23T21:32:16 < Sync> we made replacement cowlings and stuff 2016-07-23T21:32:30 < Sync> wing repairs are usually laid on 2016-07-23T21:32:59 < Sync> or nose gear covers 2016-07-23T21:33:01 < kakimir> someone broke the plane!? 2016-07-23T21:33:04 < Sync> shit that got broken all the time 2016-07-23T21:33:11 < Sync> sure 2016-07-23T21:35:02 < kakimir> I wonder if I should try to vacuum mold cabin plexiglasses 2016-07-23T21:36:10 < kakimir> and if anyone would buy those if I bother to create a mold 2016-07-23T21:36:38 < kakimir> and if it's okay at all to do those 2016-07-23T21:37:58 < kakimir> Sync: any total destructions lately? 2016-07-23T21:58:45 < Sync> no 2016-07-23T21:59:07 < Sync> so far everything was repairable 2016-07-23T22:03:47 < jon1012> I've found indegogo lovers (dongs and Laurenceb ?) new car : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/modobag-world-s-first-motorized-rideable-luggage#/ 2016-07-23T22:07:46 < aandrew> lol 2016-07-23T22:22:40 < inca> so I just ported some of my application to a newer std peripheral library in Atollic. 2016-07-23T22:22:52 < inca> then tried CubeMX and found Atollic was out of date by about a year. 2016-07-23T22:23:07 < inca> Std Peripheral Library is getting around these days 2016-07-23T22:26:24 < aandrew> so stdperiph < cubemx? 2016-07-23T22:29:00 < inca> I don't know anything 2016-07-23T22:29:02 < inca> it's insane 2016-07-23T22:32:38 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T22:34:42 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T22:37:35 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-23T22:44:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-23T22:52:00 < kakimir> Sync: how many planes? 2016-07-23T22:52:19 < Sync> I think we have 9 2016-07-23T22:57:11 < kakimir> 8 single seaters? 2016-07-23T22:58:23 < kakimir> 1 school plane? 2016-07-23T23:01:14 < Sync> nah 2016-07-23T23:02:58 < Sync> we have 3 DG1000 a 3 ASK13, one I don't know and two ASW19 2016-07-23T23:04:42 < Steffanx> heh only german mades. 2016-07-23T23:07:16 < Sync> ofc 2016-07-23T23:13:32 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudhhUEtnCI :D 2016-07-23T23:13:43 -!- Bingo600 [~cfo@62.61.142.24.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-23T23:20:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T23:21:50 < kakimir> Sync: what is difference to DG505? 2016-07-23T23:23:01 < kakimir> it looks very much the same 2016-07-23T23:24:07 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-23T23:24:55 < Fleck> the difference is 495 :D 2016-07-23T23:25:11 < kakimir> our club has 5 gliders 2016-07-23T23:25:45 < kakimir> and I think there is 2-3 motored gliders 2016-07-23T23:29:32 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-23T23:30:42 < Sync> no idea kakimir 2016-07-23T23:31:58 < kakimir> numberic stuff is same and it looks the same 2016-07-23T23:34:20 < Sync> it has a different takeoff weight 2016-07-23T23:35:07 < kakimir> http://kiy.fi/oh-1004-2.jpg 2016-07-23T23:43:19 < kakimir> what is the thing with ask13s? 2016-07-23T23:46:16 < Sync> they are cheap and robust 2016-07-23T23:46:20 < Sync> and fly 2016-07-23T23:47:04 < Rob235> hmm 2016-07-23T23:47:04 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/wN2LI 2016-07-23T23:47:07 < Rob235> those rates can't be right 2016-07-23T23:47:54 < kakimir> why so many 2seated? 2016-07-23T23:50:14 < Sync> that I don't know 2016-07-23T23:56:53 < kakimir> flown solo much? 2016-07-23T23:59:57 < Sync> usually, yeah --- Day changed Sun Jul 24 2016 2016-07-24T00:00:32 < kakimir> where you resides by the way Sync ? 2016-07-24T00:00:37 < Sync> germoney 2016-07-24T00:03:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T00:22:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-24T00:22:39 < Rob235> hmmm could sending a lot of serial data (even with dma) cause a program to slow down a lot? Im' only getting 10 hz for the bno055 and 20 for the x8r (unless my counting code is fucked up) 2016-07-24T00:29:01 < aandrew> the whole point of DMA is to let the CPU do something else. Are you perhaps crowding a bus that the CPU needs for other tasks, or interrupting the CPU too many times to reprogram the DMA transfers? 2016-07-24T00:29:06 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: syke 2016-07-24T00:30:42 < Rob235> I dont think so but i'll try disabling the serial packet and check each update rate another way 2016-07-24T00:34:18 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T00:35:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: syke 2016-07-24T00:47:20 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T01:03:27 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-24T01:09:33 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tinbdpo249261.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T01:18:22 < Rob235> ahh.. I wasn't limited how fast the packet was being sent, I slowed it down and the rates are correct 2016-07-24T01:27:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@m83-185-247-116.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-24T01:28:19 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-24T01:32:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-24T01:37:22 < aandrew> there was some talk here about 802.11.14 earlier: https://github.com/bitgamma/mrf24j40 and https://github.com/bitgamma/osnp and https://github.com/bitgamma/gradusnik might be something to keep handy 2016-07-24T01:39:51 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T01:40:08 < aandrew> sigh. 802.15.4 I meant 2016-07-24T01:50:53 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-24T01:55:39 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T02:11:42 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7752ea.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-24T02:38:01 < dongs> sup dongs 2016-07-24T02:38:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Remote-control-toy-design/ 2016-07-24T02:39:01 < dongs> wat 2016-07-24T02:39:06 < dongs> > Gasoline Engine 2016-07-24T02:39:14 < dongs> > Linux based ( preffered ) 2016-07-24T02:44:38 < aandrew> word 2016-07-24T02:46:30 < Laurenceb__> linux on an engine 2016-07-24T02:46:33 < Laurenceb__> what could go wrong 2016-07-24T02:46:42 < Laurenceb__> having said that musk put linux on a rocket... 2016-07-24T02:48:28 < aandrew> wtf 2016-07-24T02:48:32 < aandrew> social impact of IGBTs?? 2016-07-24T02:48:36 < aandrew> http://people.engr.ncsu.edu/bjbaliga/IGBT_Applications_and_Social_Impact.pdf 2016-07-24T02:48:44 < Laurenceb__> wat did I just read 2016-07-24T02:48:56 < Laurenceb__> le current year meme 2016-07-24T02:48:56 < dongs> pretty sure they were just confusing it with LGBT 2016-07-24T02:49:11 < Laurenceb__> hahaha 2016-07-24T02:49:16 < Laurenceb__> this could be an epin meme 2016-07-24T02:49:23 < Laurenceb__> s/LGBT/IGBT 2016-07-24T02:52:59 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-24T02:53:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-24T02:53:29 < Laurenceb__> I dont think that counts 2016-07-24T02:53:36 < Laurenceb__> more "transfailing" 2016-07-24T02:53:59 < Laurenceb__> lul it really is IGBT 2016-07-24T02:54:41 < Laurenceb__> IGBT pride worldwide, semiconductor war now, gas the MOSFETs 2016-07-24T02:59:19 < Laurenceb__> gender transitioning with logic level inputs 2016-07-24T03:04:58 < aandrew> haha 2016-07-24T03:05:03 < aandrew> confusing LGBT with IGBT 2016-07-24T03:06:02 < BrainDamage> i'd have pegged you for the type that'd buy giant size only 2016-07-24T03:16:29 < Laurenceb__> haha 2016-07-24T03:16:36 < Laurenceb__> crt is a funny guy 2016-07-24T03:16:52 < Laurenceb__> sweet dreams of tiling 2016-07-24T03:20:36 < Laurenceb__> UPS guy will probably be knocking early with another tile for him 2016-07-24T03:49:08 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-24T03:49:56 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPSRVbTcLwE 2016-07-24T04:18:44 < Laurenceb__> you are letting someone fuck your wife....you are a cuck. 2016-07-24T04:19:08 < Laurenceb__> But if you're at an orgy your'e also cucking the cuck 2016-07-24T04:19:26 < Laurenceb__> CUCKCEPTION 2016-07-24T04:31:14 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-24T04:35:13 < dongs> can you imagine what the chat would be like if Laurenceb had something funny to say 2016-07-24T04:35:44 < ReadError> i thought Steffanx banned shitposting 2016-07-24T04:39:53 < dongs> very cool. more autonoumous cars ready to murder you 2016-07-24T04:39:55 < dongs> just like tesla 2016-07-24T04:43:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T04:53:41 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-24T04:58:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T04:58:50 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T05:12:34 < ReadError> stifling innovation 2016-07-24T05:15:49 < boB_K7IQ> and be using stone knives and bear skins 2016-07-24T05:16:47 < ReadError> yea just pull out 2016-07-24T05:16:53 < ReadError> when it works its reliable 2016-07-24T05:22:19 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T05:38:04 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T05:47:35 < ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pcs-DDR3-memory-slot-tester-card-with-LED-for-laptop-motherboard-Notebook/32385802122.html 2016-07-24T05:49:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T07:26:51 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-24T07:28:09 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T07:47:23 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T07:50:30 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-24T09:10:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-24T09:10:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T09:17:59 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7752ea.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T10:02:07 < dongs> lol 2016-07-24T10:02:16 < dongs> fucking cubemx clock generator outputs HAL code 2016-07-24T10:02:26 < dongs> i thought it would still generate system_stm32fxx.c shit 2016-07-24T10:02:28 < dongs> like usually 2016-07-24T10:02:32 < dongs> but it just stcks that shit in main 2016-07-24T10:04:09 < Jak_o_Shadows> I gave up on the stm released libs 2016-07-24T10:04:54 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-07-24T10:05:09 < dongs> sorry to hear that 2016-07-24T10:05:13 < dongs> stdperiph is fine 2016-07-24T10:05:18 < dongs> hal is pretty bad tho. 2016-07-24T10:06:23 < Jak_o_Shadows> The i2C bit of stdperiph is borked 2016-07-24T10:06:31 < dongs> there's no "i2c bit" 2016-07-24T10:06:37 < dongs> so its hard to claim its borked 2016-07-24T10:06:45 < dongs> there's just functions to make use of i2c peripheral. 2016-07-24T10:07:02 < Jak_o_Shadows> i2c part? those functions 2016-07-24T10:09:04 < Thorn> the i2c hardware itself is borked 2016-07-24T10:09:34 < Thorn> usb drivers in stdperiph were very buggy. dunno about HAL (maybe it uses the same drivers) 2016-07-24T10:10:25 < Jak_o_Shadows> All the stm32 chips i2c hardware is borked in the same way though, right? 2016-07-24T10:11:25 < Thorn> iirc there might be some differences between f1 and f4 but nothing significant 2016-07-24T10:11:38 < Thorn> they chose complatibility over fixing bugs 2016-07-24T10:12:32 < dongs> Thorn: hal takes buggy stdperiph usb and makes it worse so yea 2016-07-24T10:12:49 < dongs> lol what the hell 2016-07-24T10:12:54 < dongs> my F4 is heating 2016-07-24T10:13:16 < Jak_o_Shadows> that's good at least 2016-07-24T10:13:43 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'm using the stm32f4 for the major project, and do want to be able to use similar code for a minor project with the f1 2016-07-24T10:14:05 < Thorn> it will get hot and then it will become cold, forever 2016-07-24T10:14:42 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/B3X1H5s.jpg] 2016-07-24T10:14:45 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/B3X1H5s.jpg haha, its the leds 2016-07-24T10:14:50 < dongs> check out the traces going to leds also warming up 2016-07-24T10:14:55 < dongs> time to turn on taht timer and PWM them 2016-07-24T10:15:05 < Jak_o_Shadows> damn that's cool 2016-07-24T10:16:03 < dongs> i guess i shoulda used 249R instead of 100R 2016-07-24T10:16:53 < dongs> 's okay i got them on PWM pins for exactly this reason 2016-07-24T10:17:15 < dongs> i'll making blinking by changing pwm duty cycle with a fade in/out in systick 2016-07-24T10:19:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T10:21:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-24T10:21:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-24T10:38:04 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T10:41:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-24T10:49:12 < dongs> yay 2016-07-24T10:49:14 < dongs> fix'd 2016-07-24T10:49:38 < dongs> lol 8/128 duty is enough to make led watchable 2016-07-24T10:50:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T11:01:24 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtlyactnalydeuyq] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T11:15:07 < dongs> L O L 2016-07-24T11:15:14 < dongs> F4 heating because: its running at 5V 2016-07-24T11:15:25 < dongs> fucking FB resistor tombstoned 2016-07-24T11:17:40 < Sync> nice 2016-07-24T11:17:41 < dongs> things learned: F4 runs OK @ 5V 2016-07-24T11:17:43 < dongs> USB: works 2016-07-24T11:17:51 < Sync> dat overclock 2016-07-24T11:17:58 < dongs> no, itr was at 168mhz 2016-07-24T11:18:02 < dongs> lol power consumption went down 50mA 2016-07-24T11:18:05 < dongs> after clocking it down 2016-07-24T11:18:08 < dongs> i wonder if i killed ADC 2016-07-24T11:18:25 < dongs> err after powering by 3V 2016-07-24T11:19:07 < dongs> Device: STM32F405RG 2016-07-24T11:19:08 < dongs> VTarget = 4.846V 2016-07-24T11:19:12 < dongs> i guess i shoulda noticed that first 2016-07-24T11:19:15 < dongs> lolz 2016-07-24T11:20:30 < dongs> hm still heating 2016-07-24T11:20:40 < dongs> i guess its in halffail mode somewehre 2016-07-24T11:20:51 < dongs> so yeah ADC probly shot 2016-07-24T11:21:06 < dongs> oh well, i dont have the board this is supposed to plug into yet, so i'll figre it out later 2016-07-24T11:30:45 < dongs> adc just getting random values around 11xx decimal regardless of pull up/down 2016-07-24T11:31:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-46b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T11:59:56 < dongs> further 50mA reduced on replaced chip 2016-07-24T12:01:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-24T12:06:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T12:08:29 < dongs> crt, i was powering F405 from 5V for about half an hour 2016-07-24T12:08:37 < dongs> surprisingly, lots of stuff worked 2016-07-24T12:10:10 < dongs> FB resistor on dc/dc was tombstoned 2016-07-24T12:10:11 < dongs> and I didnt notice 2016-07-24T12:10:20 < dongs> so vin = vout 2016-07-24T12:10:32 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/B3X1H5s.jpg 2016-07-24T12:11:05 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T12:17:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T12:19:21 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-24T12:22:47 < Steffanx> Indeed ReadError no more o6-ing 2016-07-24T12:27:01 < upgrdman> wut happened to o6? 2016-07-24T12:27:16 < dongs> departed to a safe sapce 2016-07-24T12:32:59 < dongs> hm i guess ill just do this shit using PID 2016-07-24T12:33:07 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T12:33:47 < dongs> jadew/other software pros, i need to 'slide' a value from X to setpoint over period, PID, or something simpler? 2016-07-24T12:35:55 < dongs> fuckit, PID it is. you're all not helpful :( 2016-07-24T12:36:39 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-07-24T12:40:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T12:41:17 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tinbdpo249261.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-24T12:49:29 < Jak_o_Shadows> wait, slide how? 2016-07-24T12:50:09 < dongs> you know 2016-07-24T12:50:23 < dongs> over time, go from say 10 to 100 2016-07-24T12:52:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> Why not just some sort of interpolating curve or something? 2016-07-24T12:52:55 < dongs> donno, thats why im asking you 2016-07-24T12:53:28 < dongs> is ok it works wiht pid, so the care level has gone down 2016-07-24T12:53:29 < Jak_o_Shadows> You're in full control of this value at any time? No lag/lead? 2016-07-24T12:53:33 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-24T12:53:43 < dongs> its just to make leds turn on/off softer. 2016-07-24T12:54:52 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yeah, would totally just fiddle with some sort of curve. 2016-07-24T12:55:11 < Jak_o_Shadows> Like, have an equation that takes in ticks, or whatnot, that outputs PWM value 2016-07-24T12:55:45 < dongs> donno, nobody answered when i asked so I just copypasted my pid code from last time i did this 2016-07-24T12:58:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-24T13:01:13 -!- Theremin [~amir@chello085216129094.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T13:05:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-24T13:07:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T13:18:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-46b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-24T13:45:55 < jadew> dongs, maybe I'm not understanding your requirement properly, but it souds like a simple matter of mapping a set of values to another set of values, the math is basic 2016-07-24T13:49:17 < jadew> if you want to map timex to timey to targetx to targety, then you have something like result = targetx + target_width * (time - timex) / time_width; 2016-07-24T13:49:46 < jadew> sorry 2016-07-24T13:49:51 < jadew> if you want to map timex to timey to targetx to targety, then you have something like result = targetx + target_width * ((time - timex) / time_width); 2016-07-24T13:49:53 < jadew> missing () 2016-07-24T13:50:21 < jadew> is that what you want to do? 2016-07-24T13:50:25 < Steffanx> wut, this is just for a faping led? No tempeture control? 2016-07-24T14:00:57 < kakimir> yo 2016-07-24T14:09:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:50a4:9205:b09c:5ee4] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T14:21:50 < kakimir> suction blanket is actually paper? 2016-07-24T14:22:15 < kakimir> like workshop paper rug in wide format? 2016-07-24T14:22:47 < kakimir> *cellulose rug 2016-07-24T14:23:03 < kakimir> #resininfusion32 2016-07-24T14:27:55 < Steffanx> He's down under like you. 2016-07-24T14:28:00 < dongs> Steffanx: yaman. 2016-07-24T14:28:02 < kakimir> I slept like 13hours 2016-07-24T14:28:08 < kakimir> now ready to order shiet 2016-07-24T14:28:29 < dongs> leme paste my current amazecode 2016-07-24T14:28:37 < kakimir> I fall a sleep without any warnings while watching youtubes 2016-07-24T14:28:54 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/CiCrHw36.html < lol 2016-07-24T14:32:22 < jadew> dongs, do you know how many systicks the whole thing has to take? 2016-07-24T14:32:25 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T14:32:34 < Tectu> Good morning 2016-07-24T14:32:39 < jadew> morning 2016-07-24T14:32:47 < Tectu> how is stuff? 2016-07-24T14:32:51 < dongs> jadew: i dont really care, as long as its smooth-ish i guess. which is shit i can contorl with P i think on the pid 2016-07-24T14:33:10 < dongs> like how soon it gets to setpoint 2016-07-24T14:34:22 < jadew> ok, so just use an index and a max value 2016-07-24T14:34:35 < dongs> but i have setpoints going both ways 2016-07-24T14:34:41 < jadew> result = targetx + target_width * (index / max_value); 2016-07-24T14:34:42 < dongs> i.e. animating 0>xx and xx>0 2016-07-24T14:34:46 < jadew> and you start with index = 0; 2016-07-24T14:34:50 < jadew> and increment it with each tick 2016-07-24T14:35:01 < dongs> isnt that linear tho 2016-07-24T14:35:07 < jadew> you don't want it linear? 2016-07-24T14:35:17 < dongs> well, it looks nicer nonlinear 2016-07-24T14:35:36 < Tectu> Tell me folks, why are websites so possessed with that I stay logged in with my PayPal account so I can benefit from a faster checkout next time? I understand that they have a checkbox in the form, but when you don't check it, it dialog will pop-up to ask you whether you are sure that you don't want to stay logged in because your checkout will be so much faster next time!!!!!1111 2016-07-24T14:36:02 < Steffanx> Then make some lookup table and do some small interpolation dongs? 2016-07-24T14:36:18 < dongs> Tectu: it means if you check it, tehy setup a payment agrement or some sorta payment/transaction link thing, and next time youre ordering from that place you won't need to login to gaypal at all, they';ll automatically pull it. 2016-07-24T14:36:24 < jadew> so add some non-linear function that results in f(1) = 1 2016-07-24T14:36:28 < Steffanx> Also linear will be non-linear for the eyes anyway :P 2016-07-24T14:37:01 < Tectu> dongs, that I understand, but why are they so obsessed with it? They don't benefit from it at all, right? If I want to purchase, I purchase. No matter whether I have to type in my PW or not. 2016-07-24T14:37:03 < dongs> i have this enabled to some jappu shop where i order lots of shit,all I need to do is add to cart, choose paypal, and check out. 2016-07-24T14:37:05 < jadew> and you can apply it to this(index / max_value) 2016-07-24T14:37:19 < Tectu> dongs, does it at least work well? 2016-07-24T14:37:37 < dongs> i've registered link > 1 year ago and I've not had to type in my gaypal info into that site, so yes it works 2016-07-24T14:38:01 < dongs> certainly makes it easier as I dont acutally know my password and I'd need to pull up the passwords.txt with it, find it, and paste it 2016-07-24T14:38:31 < dongs> jadew: what happens wehn im going down? 2016-07-24T14:38:36 < dongs> i.e. current = 64, target = 20 2016-07-24T14:39:02 < Tectu> is Mr. jadew PID pro? 2016-07-24T14:39:14 < dongs> no, hes advising me not to use pid 2016-07-24T14:39:15 < Tectu> all I remember from my PID classes is that I don't want to remember them 2016-07-24T14:39:20 < Tectu> ah :p 2016-07-24T14:40:44 < dongs> there isnt any, except that i already had that part written before for otehr stuff 2016-07-24T14:41:39 < Tectu> what are you up to, Mr. dongs? 2016-07-24T14:41:48 < dongs> blinking leds 2016-07-24T14:41:49 < jadew> dongs, when you'd go down it would start slow and go down faster, it would have the same curve I guess 2016-07-24T14:41:50 < dongs> as usual 2016-07-24T14:41:57 < jadew> you can have a different equation for that if you want 2016-07-24T14:42:14 < jadew> brb, I have to write some pseudocode for a friend 2016-07-24T14:47:20 < jadew> done 2016-07-24T14:48:44 < jadew> trying to convince someone that by helping them you're really not helping them never seems to work 2016-07-24T14:49:10 < jadew> they'll assume you just don't feel like helping them 2016-07-24T14:50:09 < jadew> the guy had to do the pseudo code for reading n and m and then spitting out the average of all the numbers between n and m (inclusive) 2016-07-24T14:50:26 < jadew> and he's supposed to take a full blown programming course 2016-07-24T14:50:31 < jadew> for which he paid a lot of money 2016-07-24T14:51:28 < jadew> yeah, it's just stupid to ask someone else to solve such a basic problem for you when you're planning to learn so much more, that's actually based on your capacity of solving problems like that one 2016-07-24T14:52:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-24T14:52:11 < jadew> indeed 2016-07-24T14:53:08 < jadew> hah, made a joke, but I don't think he'll get it 2016-07-24T14:53:26 < jadew> I sent him a picture of my whiteboard with the pseudocode and then I asked him if it runs 2016-07-24T14:54:00 < englishman> dongs isnt this f4, why not sinf 2016-07-24T14:54:20 < englishman> get that perfect apple tower power button glow 2016-07-24T14:54:52 < jadew> it's something that goes off an on constantly? 2016-07-24T14:55:17 < dongs> nah its just leds that turn on/off based on stuff 2016-07-24T14:55:18 < englishman> even if not just increment in systick with endpoint 2016-07-24T14:55:43 < dongs> meh but then i have to if (current > setpoint) and ++ or -- if positive or negative 2016-07-24T14:55:57 < dongs> much work 2016-07-24T14:56:07 < englishman> no you have a state byte 2016-07-24T14:56:16 < dongs> going up or down? 2016-07-24T14:56:20 < englishman> yea 2016-07-24T14:56:33 < dongs> value += state, where its +1 or -1? 2016-07-24T14:56:34 < dongs> i suppose that works 2016-07-24T14:56:36 < dongs> but yeah , linear 2016-07-24T14:56:40 < englishman> not if sinf 2016-07-24T14:56:48 < Lux> dongs: what are you even trying to accomplish with those leds ? 2016-07-24T14:56:55 < dongs> lux, blink them 2016-07-24T14:56:59 < dongs> pleasantly 2016-07-24T14:57:12 < dongs> you know that thing when everyhting is done and you have nothing else to do 2016-07-24T14:57:20 < Lux> then just use some pleasant function not a pid 2016-07-24T14:57:20 < dongs> and you just do stuff to make it do stuff? 2016-07-24T14:57:24 < dongs> it's one of those times. 2016-07-24T14:57:37 < Lux> so like fading ? 2016-07-24T14:57:46 < dongs> yeah. 2016-07-24T14:57:50 < englishman> ^ autism 2016-07-24T14:57:56 < dongs> nailed it. 2016-07-24T14:58:04 < Lux> yep =) 2016-07-24T14:59:54 < Tectu> hah :p 2016-07-24T15:00:49 < Lux> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:u1CcGjYjk-AJ:www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/LED-Fading+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=at&lr=lang_de%7Clang_en&client=firefox-b-ab 2016-07-24T15:01:13 < Lux> that's some stuff compensated to the eyes sensitivity 2016-07-24T15:01:49 < Steffanx> With a nick like you one should know all about it ;) 2016-07-24T15:03:14 < Lux> :P 2016-07-24T15:04:28 < Lux> or copy/paste that arduino code: https://diarmuid.ie/blog/pwm-exponential-led-fading-on-arduino-or-other-platforms/ 2016-07-24T15:06:43 < jadew> dongs, it all boils down to that equation I gave you, you're mapping a linear set of values (ticks) to another linear set of values (LED brightness points) 2016-07-24T15:07:02 < jadew> you can apply a function to it and create a curve from that line 2016-07-24T15:07:09 < jadew> (from the resulting line) 2016-07-24T15:07:28 < jadew> and you can bend the curve however you like, based on the direction its going 2016-07-24T15:13:16 < jadew> you could even use sin like it was suggested and use only tau/4 radians, you would go from 0 to tau/4 and you'd get a fast start and it would be slower towards the end 2016-07-24T15:21:40 < ReadError> the heartbeat/ledfade stuff is kewl 2016-07-24T15:22:02 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/XUVFG.png 2016-07-24T15:22:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-24T15:22:20 < jadew> that's sin(x) where x goes from 0 to tau/4 2016-07-24T15:22:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T15:23:41 < jadew> actually, it doesn't look right 2016-07-24T15:23:57 < jadew> should have been more circly 2016-07-24T15:25:21 < jadew> nvm, it's the scale 2016-07-24T15:26:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-24T15:30:52 < jadew> I just had to click it, got a newsletter from AliExpress: "Picnic like PRO" 2016-07-24T15:31:02 < jadew> like a PRO 2016-07-24T15:31:12 < dongs> are they offering to sell you clones of coolest cooler 2016-07-24T15:31:15 < kakimir> Sync: http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I00003lYR.zr3G8o/fit=1000x750/vacuum-bag1.jpg you do this? 2016-07-24T15:31:27 < jadew> dongs, no, baskets 2016-07-24T15:31:35 < jadew> hats, darts and wine 2016-07-24T15:46:37 < kakimir> resin conductor mesh costs a hell 2016-07-24T15:46:47 < kakimir> per square meter 2016-07-24T15:48:22 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-24T15:48:44 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T15:49:42 < dongs> autismir, did you make a hole in your boat or somethign 2016-07-24T15:50:49 < kakimir> my friend drove his jet in dam whrilpool 2016-07-24T15:51:03 < kakimir> now it's full oh holes 2016-07-24T15:51:14 < ReadError> 'wat' 2016-07-24T15:51:18 < dongs> ^ 2016-07-24T15:51:41 < kakimir> his stupid ass dude 2016-07-24T15:51:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T15:51:57 < ReadError> we need to work on your english 2016-07-24T15:51:58 < ReadError> explain 2016-07-24T15:54:21 < kakimir> there was like this leakage channel next to channel thing that has those doors to it and stuff 2016-07-24T15:54:42 < kakimir> where you drive your boat and another door closes and another opens 2016-07-24T15:54:46 < ReadError> a system of locks? 2016-07-24T15:54:56 < kakimir> something 2016-07-24T15:55:04 < ReadError> locs? 2016-07-24T15:55:13 < ReadError> i forget boats are lame 2016-07-24T15:55:51 < kakimir> so he drove his jet to that upstream leakage channel and hit wall under the water 2016-07-24T15:56:54 < kakimir> and was stuck in whirlpool with his jet being hammered to bottom and wall constantly 2016-07-24T15:57:45 < ReadError> uhhh 2016-07-24T15:57:59 < ReadError> why didnt he just let off the gas 2016-07-24T15:58:43 < kakimir> it was water current doing it not his jet 2016-07-24T15:59:41 < ReadError> how did he recovery it w/o it sinking if so many hole? 2016-07-24T16:00:07 < kakimir> so another dude crash landed his jet to bank to get help and his jet was then pulled by suction to the whirlpool too 2016-07-24T16:00:16 < kakimir> from downstream side 2016-07-24T16:01:05 < kakimir> ReadError: it did basically sink 2016-07-24T16:01:31 < kakimir> it had some foam inside to keep it barelly afloat 2016-07-24T16:02:24 < ReadError> friend of mine hit a pillar in the ocean, that jetski did not float very long 2016-07-24T16:02:55 < Laurenceb__> holy shit WikiLeaks has gone full /pol/ 2016-07-24T16:03:06 < kakimir> there is rocks in the middle of lakes here 2016-07-24T16:03:17 < Laurenceb__> "Why do most of our critics have three ((( around their names?" 2016-07-24T16:03:48 < Laurenceb__> Assange the absolute madman 2016-07-24T16:06:06 * Laurenceb__ wonders how long before he gets evicted from the embassy 2016-07-24T16:07:34 < kakimir> ReadError: why there was a pilar in the ocean? 2016-07-24T16:07:50 < ReadError> they mark things 2016-07-24T16:07:58 < kakimir> those yes 2016-07-24T16:08:05 < kakimir> why did he hit one? 2016-07-24T16:08:37 < kakimir> and so hard it made frame to crack 2016-07-24T16:09:04 < ReadError> i think it was marking a sandbar 2016-07-24T16:09:46 < kakimir> sandbars are cool 2016-07-24T16:09:47 < Laurenceb__> why did I read that as snackbar 2016-07-24T16:10:21 < kakimir> and also write it as snackbar? 2016-07-24T16:13:13 < Laurenceb__> holy shit twitter and le reddit in meltdown 2016-07-24T16:13:33 * Laurenceb__ grabs popcorn 2016-07-24T16:13:42 < dongs> I have multiple requirements for double sided PCB layouts. These are mostly through hole with some surface mount. The usual PCB size will be around 15mm x 30mm. The intent is to have the same footprint as a 28 pin DIP and to have a PCB that will plug into a 28 pin DIP socket. 2016-07-24T16:14:07 < dongs> how does 28pin dip == 15x30mm 2016-07-24T16:14:24 < ReadError> wouldnt it be in mils 2016-07-24T16:14:26 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/bTUPNXP.png 2016-07-24T16:14:52 < dongs> lol 2016-07-24T16:15:11 < englishman> Laurenceb__: what is drama 2016-07-24T16:15:31 < ReadError> DNC emails 2016-07-24T16:15:33 < dongs> unfunnyb idea of drama is one post by some shithead 2016-07-24T16:15:36 < dongs> DNC? 2016-07-24T16:15:37 < Laurenceb__> Assange went full pol on twitter 2016-07-24T16:15:38 < ReadError> nothing really great 2016-07-24T16:15:49 < ReadError> assange is a felgot 2016-07-24T16:15:49 < englishman> yeah but whats the drama 2016-07-24T16:15:55 < Laurenceb__> calling people cucks, using anime avitar and ((())) 2016-07-24T16:16:28 < englishman> what is ((())) 2016-07-24T16:16:32 < kakimir> what is that ((())) triggering? 2016-07-24T16:16:38 < dongs> it means youre a jew 2016-07-24T16:16:38 < ReadError> (|) 2016-07-24T16:16:58 < kakimir> I bet you are secretly jew dongs 2016-07-24T16:17:03 < ReadError> 8========D ((())) 2016-07-24T16:17:07 < dongs> not even secretly 2016-07-24T16:17:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T16:17:36 < englishman> is that like 🍆 triggering people and being banned from shithub 2016-07-24T16:17:37 < kakimir> you try to deny your jew origin with sarcasm 2016-07-24T16:18:34 < dongs> < englishman> is that like ? triggering people and being banned from shithub 2016-07-24T16:18:40 < englishman> fix your lunix bro 2016-07-24T16:18:44 < dongs> do you mean uhh 2016-07-24T16:18:45 < dongs> eggplant? 2016-07-24T16:18:50 < englishman> aubergine, yes. 2016-07-24T16:20:12 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ap2QVRQ.jpg time to sell to every rageberry user 2016-07-24T16:20:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-24T16:21:06 < englishman> what is the point of higher than 320x240 on lunix 2016-07-24T16:21:18 < ReadError> hdmi -> dp ? 2016-07-24T16:21:22 < dongs> dont ask me, i'm just an enabler 2016-07-24T16:21:36 < dongs> lunix turds can figure out what to do with a giant lunix desktop 2016-07-24T16:23:35 < kakimir> anime 2016-07-24T16:23:59 < dongs> dont think lunix can play media 2016-07-24T16:24:02 < dongs> so anime is out 2016-07-24T16:24:33 < kakimir> anime is propably released in open formats 2016-07-24T16:24:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.46] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T16:24:48 < dongs> not legit 2016-07-24T16:24:51 < dongs> open = pirate 2016-07-24T16:27:10 < englishman> you realize ##stm32 was involved in the development of this product 2016-07-24T16:27:31 < englishman> in the absence of a license, you are beholden to pay us all royalties 2016-07-24T16:27:52 < Laurenceb__> what is the point of higher than 320x240 on lunix 2016-07-24T16:27:54 < Laurenceb__> lulwut 2016-07-24T16:27:54 -!- Theremin [~amir@chello085216129094.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-24T16:27:59 < Laurenceb__> oh you mean for terminal? 2016-07-24T16:28:05 < dongs> no he means for anything 2016-07-24T16:28:07 < kakimir> by lines of shitposting at the time of development englishman ? 2016-07-24T16:28:25 < englishman> i submitted sinf 2016-07-24T16:28:29 < dongs> oh 2016-07-24T16:28:31 < dongs> its not for this 2016-07-24T16:28:35 < englishman> right 2016-07-24T16:28:40 < dongs> sinf is for the overheating F4 board 2016-07-24T16:28:49 < dongs> < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/B3X1H5s.jpg haha, its the leds 2016-07-24T16:37:54 < kakimir> where you sell this display adapter dongs? 2016-07-24T16:38:05 < kakimir> to maximize profits 2016-07-24T16:39:54 < ReadError> eve online 2016-07-24T16:44:57 < Sync> one time kakimir 2016-07-24T16:45:53 < kakimir> how do you otherwise include vacuum bagging? you have mold of covers and such? 2016-07-24T16:45:53 < jadew> difference between two seemingly shitty DVI to HDMI calbes: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/i9EeK.png 2016-07-24T16:45:59 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/tDsiR.png 2016-07-24T16:46:34 < jadew> *equally shitty 2016-07-24T16:46:45 < kakimir> how jadew? 2016-07-24T16:46:57 < jadew> kakimir, what do you mean? 2016-07-24T16:47:03 < kakimir> that difference 2016-07-24T16:47:10 < jadew> I just replaced one with the other 2016-07-24T16:47:22 < jadew> initially I thought that noise is from the cable company 2016-07-24T16:47:24 < kakimir> what brands? 2016-07-24T16:47:38 < jadew> but when the monitors went into sleep and back on, i noticed the spectrum was clean 2016-07-24T16:47:56 < jadew> kakimir, I don't know, had them lying around 2016-07-24T16:48:09 < Laurenceb__> jadew: oxygen free copper bro 2016-07-24T16:48:15 < jadew> haha 2016-07-24T16:48:36 < jadew> I'm gonna look for some ferite to put on the one that already behaves better and then I'll probably invest in some proper cable 2016-07-24T16:48:42 < jadew> this one doesn't even have ferite on it 2016-07-24T16:49:18 < kakimir> aren't the shittiest cables those what look like / are apple cables 2016-07-24T16:49:19 < jadew> it's still radiating in the PMR band 2016-07-24T16:49:20 < kakimir> ? 2016-07-24T16:50:46 < dongs> http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/tanzania-bans-lube-in-crackdown-on-gays-20160722-26 2016-07-24T16:51:31 < jadew> yeah, cuz that's the only thing you can use 2016-07-24T16:51:39 < Rob235> anyone have an example of tuned pid output when the copter is on the ground without props? 2016-07-24T16:51:50 < dongs> err what 2016-07-24T16:51:54 < dongs> jadew: what the fuck does that screenshot prove 2016-07-24T16:52:05 < dongs> noise produced by cable or something? 2016-07-24T16:52:21 < BrainDamage> noise radiated by the cable 2016-07-24T16:52:27 < ReadError> shitty shielding ? 2016-07-24T16:52:29 < BrainDamage> read: shitty shielding and twisting consistency 2016-07-24T16:52:29 < dongs> dv/hdmi runs at 75 to 300mhz around, why are you looking at 447mhz 2016-07-24T16:52:57 < ReadError> harmonics? 2016-07-24T16:53:07 < dongs> yeah but why care bout them in 445mhz 2016-07-24T16:53:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T16:55:12 < jadew> dongs, that's the band I'm interested in right now 2016-07-24T16:55:33 < dongs> k 2016-07-24T16:55:39 < jadew> I assumed it's harmonics, because I noticed improvements in the lower bands too 2016-07-24T16:56:09 < dongs> whats the resolution 2016-07-24T16:56:36 < dongs> 1080piss? 2016-07-24T16:56:49 < jadew> yep 2016-07-24T16:57:27 < jadew> what freq. would it run at? 2016-07-24T16:57:41 < dongs> if its standard reduced blanking 1080piss thats like 133mhz pixel clock 2016-07-24T16:57:57 < dongs> or 173mhz otherwise 2016-07-24T16:58:25 < jadew> let's see 2016-07-24T16:59:47 < dongs> but, thre's hdmi bit dicking stuff post that 2016-07-24T17:00:08 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/oWEVk.png 2016-07-24T17:00:16 < jadew> vs http://dumb.ro/screenshot/nHVxq.png 2016-07-24T17:00:17 < dongs> and *8 of course for serializing etc so.. 2016-07-24T17:00:52 < jadew> let's see if there's any improvement if I add ferite 2016-07-24T17:02:27 < zyp> so what are you doing with PMR band? 2016-07-24T17:03:23 < ReadError> sounds shady/illegal 2016-07-24T17:03:38 < dongs> anything involving RF is illegal 2016-07-24T17:03:42 < jadew> nothing, just hoping to eavesdrop on some conversations 2016-07-24T17:03:45 < jadew> lol 2016-07-24T17:03:45 < dongs> especaillyy with a tool called " hackrf " 2016-07-24T17:04:07 < jadew> ReadError, the PMR band is used by walkie talkies 2016-07-24T17:04:19 < jadew> 446.0 to 446.1 MHz 2016-07-24T17:04:37 < dongs> https://twitter.com/Learn_Things/status/756965643291877376?s=08 2016-07-24T17:04:38 < zyp> yeah, for unlicensed bullshit 2016-07-24T17:04:50 < dongs> lol @ someone freshly retweeting nixie 2016-07-24T17:04:52 < jadew> yep 2016-07-24T17:06:04 < jadew> ok, so now I have a ferrite core that I have to remember to recover from that cable 2016-07-24T17:06:58 < jadew> so just shitty shielding I guess 2016-07-24T17:07:14 < dongs> ok so looks like post HDMI-fucking its 1.49gbps per TDMS link 2016-07-24T17:07:37 < dongs> still doesnt fit into harmonics youre seeing 2016-07-24T17:08:01 < jadew> could be noise from the GPU, just radiating through the cables 2016-07-24T17:08:51 < zyp> I was looking at PMR a few weeks ago, but the power limits are pretty low 2016-07-24T17:09:07 < dongs> 4.46ghz aggregated over 4 links, i guess a /10 harmonic is possible but i duno 2016-07-24T17:09:07 < zyp> so I decided fuck it, I'll buy some ham gear instead and get a ham license 2016-07-24T17:09:19 < dongs> isn't the whole point of TDMS is so that its spread evenly without sharp edges 2016-07-24T17:09:21 < dongs> so it looks like noise 2016-07-24T17:10:21 < ReadError> any recommendations for a 5V boost (src = LiPo) that can do ~1.5A out ? 2016-07-24T17:10:26 < jadew> zyp, yeah 500 mW I think, but it depends 2016-07-24T17:10:27 < dongs> er TMDS 2016-07-24T17:10:30 < jadew> some people don't respect that 2016-07-24T17:10:39 < zyp> jadew, yeah, 500mW ERP 2016-07-24T17:10:40 < jadew> the baofeng ones can do 4W I think 2016-07-24T17:10:42 < dongs> im pretty sure these chinks baofengs are like 3W 2016-07-24T17:10:47 < dongs> that I have 2016-07-24T17:10:54 < jadew> yeah, I have two as well 2016-07-24T17:10:56 < ReadError> ya 4w 2016-07-24T17:11:00 < ReadError> some are 8 2016-07-24T17:11:18 < zyp> sure, but the baofengs are ham class gear 2016-07-24T17:11:24 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-24T17:11:33 < dongs> !!! This program works only if "macros" are enabled in "EXCEL" 2016-07-24T17:11:50 < zyp> which aren't legal to use on PMR band 2016-07-24T17:12:29 < jadew> zyp, they have a low power mode 2016-07-24T17:12:33 < jadew> it's legal like that 2016-07-24T17:12:59 < zyp> well, no 2016-07-24T17:13:06 < zyp> I mean, local regulations apply 2016-07-24T17:13:32 < zyp> but unlicensed PMR shit is supposed to be designed in a way that it's impossible to misuse it 2016-07-24T17:14:14 < zyp> so even if you're following the limits, it's not strictly legal as long as the radio can be configured to exceed them 2016-07-24T17:14:27 < jadew> yeah, but it's still not ilegal for you if you don't TX over the licensed power 2016-07-24T17:14:39 < zyp> some countries even have rules about the antenna being fixed so it can't be replaced by a high gain antenna 2016-07-24T17:14:46 < BrainDamage> it's illegal to sell the device 2016-07-24T17:14:52 < jadew> yeah, I guess it depends on the country 2016-07-24T17:14:58 < jadew> it's not illegal here 2016-07-24T17:15:10 < jadew> in the end you can just listen 2016-07-24T17:15:17 < zyp> sure, reception is fine 2016-07-24T17:15:18 < jadew> when you TX you may break the law 2016-07-24T17:15:24 < BrainDamage> ISM band devices are type accepted and pre-approved, while instead the liability shift for licensed bands is on the operator 2016-07-24T17:15:32 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-24T17:16:05 < zyp> hmm, that reminds me, the guy I emailed about wanting to take ham license exam haven't replied yet 2016-07-24T17:16:23 < jadew> I wanted to take the exam too 2016-07-24T17:16:39 < jadew> but it seems like a grumpy crowd 2016-07-24T17:16:41 < jadew> at least in here 2016-07-24T17:16:50 < jadew> and they have very little interesting discussions 2016-07-24T17:16:53 < englishman> it is 2016-07-24T17:16:57 < jadew> all they care about is making contact 2016-07-24T17:16:59 < jadew> it's silly 2016-07-24T17:17:22 < englishman> all about that qsl 2016-07-24T17:17:31 < zyp> yeah, I don't care about all that, I just want to be able to talk to my friends legally :p 2016-07-24T17:17:32 < jadew> yeah 2016-07-24T17:17:46 < englishman> either that or disaster response 2016-07-24T17:18:00 < englishman> "totally essential service provider" 2016-07-24T17:18:39 < BrainDamage> here instead it's old people "ricing" with transmitter power 2016-07-24T17:18:52 < zyp> exam seems pretty easy, most of the technical shit is stuff I already know 2016-07-24T17:19:17 < englishman> dono how it works for you, but here theres basic and advanced courses, the advanced is easier as its all technical, the basic is mostly law and crap 2016-07-24T17:19:19 < zyp> and the rest is rules and stuff 2016-07-24T17:19:30 < zyp> norway only has one license class now 2016-07-24T17:19:39 < BrainDamage> i could get a license 15€ without even taking an exam submitting the request using my degree, but registering a station costs 200€/year 2016-07-24T17:19:45 < zyp> so you can't get licensed without knowing a bunch of impedance equations 2016-07-24T17:19:47 < englishman> wat! 2016-07-24T17:19:50 < englishman> scam! 2016-07-24T17:20:01 < englishman> what country is that 2016-07-24T17:20:16 < ReadError> wonder when emoji will be added to the test 2016-07-24T17:20:25 < BrainDamage> who, me or zyp? i'm in italy 2016-07-24T17:20:31 < englishman> ah, italy 2016-07-24T17:20:39 < englishman> 200eur over the table or 100eur under 2016-07-24T17:20:50 < zyp> registering a station as in getting a callsign? 2016-07-24T17:20:52 < zyp> or what? 2016-07-24T17:21:07 < BrainDamage> yes, callsign is assigned to the station 2016-07-24T17:21:15 < BrainDamage> and it authorizes you to tx 2016-07-24T17:22:12 < zyp> I'm not completely sure how that works here, but from what I understand you get a personal callsign along with license (that's a €200 one time fee, or something) 2016-07-24T17:22:43 < zyp> which can be used from whatever radio you tx from 2016-07-24T17:23:35 < zyp> there's also some fixed installation callsigns, which I think is mostly used for repeaters 2016-07-24T17:24:14 < jadew> yeah, I think it's the same thing here 2016-07-24T17:24:18 < jadew> we have 3 classes tho 2016-07-24T17:24:52 < zyp> as far as I understand, norway used to have multiple classes, but doesn't anymore 2016-07-24T17:24:59 < zyp> which is kind of a shame 2016-07-24T17:25:00 < jadew> 3 can do 20 meters, 2 can do 40 and 1 can do 80 I think 2016-07-24T17:25:17 < jadew> + other stuff like more TX power I think 2016-07-24T17:25:27 < zyp> a basic license would be convenient for people who just want to talk, not build their own radio shit 2016-07-24T17:25:47 < zyp> i.e. my friends that I want to talk to :p 2016-07-24T17:25:56 < jadew> you have ham radio friends? 2016-07-24T17:26:07 < zyp> not yet 2016-07-24T17:26:11 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/UfGtMtj.png 2016-07-24T17:26:15 < ReadError> why dont more mfg do this 2016-07-24T17:26:56 < jadew> ReadError, it doesn't matter that much for all ICs 2016-07-24T17:27:10 < zyp> but I have friends that I go on drives and shit with, and two way radios is much more convenient than phones or messaging when you're driving together with multiple cars 2016-07-24T17:27:17 < ReadError> well yea not all, but its still nice to have 2016-07-24T17:27:30 < ReadError> easier to visualize than a ref schematic 2016-07-24T17:27:45 < jadew> zyp, I know, but you won't get anyone else to get a license :) 2016-07-24T17:27:49 < BrainDamage> don't you have CB? 2016-07-24T17:27:50 < jadew> you can still use CB radios 2016-07-24T17:27:54 < jadew> they do 27 MHz 2016-07-24T17:28:04 < jadew> so they have great range 2016-07-24T17:28:43 < zyp> not a big thing here 2016-07-24T17:28:58 < jadew> probably bigger than ham tho :) 2016-07-24T17:29:24 < zyp> eh, doesn't matter, we already bought some radios :p 2016-07-24T17:29:30 < zyp> now just need license to use them legally :p 2016-07-24T17:29:34 < ReadError> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076729/ 2016-07-24T17:29:35 < jadew> but if you get a license, maybe I'll get one too 2016-07-24T17:29:38 < ReadError> get hyped for that CB 2016-07-24T17:29:40 < jadew> yeah, I have a couple of radios too 2016-07-24T17:29:45 < jadew> but no license 2016-07-24T17:30:13 < zyp> I have at least one other friend that's thinking about taking the license exam 2016-07-24T17:30:19 < zyp> for same reason as me 2016-07-24T17:30:58 < jadew> I'd like a license too, but I just have nobody to talk to 2016-07-24T17:31:57 < Laurenceb__> facebook just blocked all wikileaks stuff 2016-07-24T17:32:03 < Laurenceb__> dramaz intensify 2016-07-24T17:32:21 < jadew> I have a yaesu ft-100 and an ICOM 756 PRO 2016-07-24T17:32:35 < ReadError> how could they block wikileaks 2016-07-24T17:32:43 < jadew> why would they do it? 2016-07-24T17:32:53 < jadew> in relation to what? 2016-07-24T17:33:10 < jadew> the media being controlled by the government thing? 2016-07-24T17:34:32 < zyp> we bought a couple of icom id-31 2016-07-24T17:35:36 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: wordfilter for wikileaks, its not hard 2016-07-24T17:35:38 < jadew> they look nice 2016-07-24T17:36:14 < Laurenceb__> prob cuz of twitter shitstorm 2016-07-24T17:36:36 < jadew> what twitter shitstorm? 2016-07-24T17:37:08 < zyp> jadew, yeah, and the d-star system seems a bit fun 2016-07-24T17:37:57 -!- ac|work [~ardu@84.201.234.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-24T17:38:45 < jadew> crt, what's ED? 2016-07-24T17:41:24 < ReadError> do push-to-lock switches have a trade name? 2016-07-24T17:42:56 < jadew> push button switch perhaps? 2016-07-24T17:43:05 < ReadError> right but it locks 2016-07-24T17:43:19 < ReadError> so its like a toggle/tactile hybrid 2016-07-24T17:50:58 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T17:56:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-24T18:05:48 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/new/electromechanical/switches/switch-accessories/cherry-energy-harvesting-switches/n-cbtc4Z2k71mg 2016-07-24T18:06:37 < ReadError> Cherry's Energy Harvesting switch module works on an inductive basis along with an inductive generator. The inductive generator converts mechanical energy into an electrical energy pulse by continuously changing the direction of the magnetic field. The energy is converted in the energy management system into a constant supply voltage stretched out over time. This powers the radio electronics with transmitting antenna to 2016-07-24T18:06:37 < ReadError> send a radio signal. 2016-07-24T18:08:04 < Laurenceb__> hmm free energy 2016-07-24T18:08:08 * Laurenceb__ checks emdrive 2016-07-24T18:11:59 < Laurenceb__> holy shit 2016-07-24T18:12:00 < Laurenceb__> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39772.msg1562432#msg1562432 2016-07-24T18:12:10 < Laurenceb__> Given I'm speaking with NASA, please could someone expert comment? 2016-07-24T18:12:12 < Laurenceb__> top kek 2016-07-24T18:15:15 < englishman> jadew: encyclopedia dramatica, 4chan's meme archive 2016-07-24T18:15:35 < Laurenceb__> inb4 ohinternet 2016-07-24T18:16:30 < jadew> thanks 2016-07-24T18:16:32 < Laurenceb__> AIAA-2016-4917. WWAT: Warp Drives, Wormholes, Antigravity and Time Travel 2016-07-24T18:16:32 < Laurenceb__> Brice N. Cassenti 2016-07-24T18:16:35 < Laurenceb__> cool story bro 2016-07-24T18:17:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T18:19:56 < englishman> apparently the ((())) has nothing to do with butts 2016-07-24T18:20:01 < englishman> i dont get twitter 2016-07-24T18:20:21 < Laurenceb__> lul try to keep up bro 2016-07-24T18:20:59 < englishman> why 2016-07-24T18:21:08 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Coincidence_Detector 2016-07-24T18:21:16 < englishman> my only exposure to this is unfunny Laurenceb__ posts 2016-07-24T18:21:48 < Laurenceb__> well now you can enjoy unfunny asshenge posts too 2016-07-24T18:23:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-24T18:25:35 < Laurenceb__> nsfw http://twitpic.com/3hkhp8 2016-07-24T18:26:57 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-24T18:27:14 < Steffanx> You can o6 with o6 personally. 2016-07-24T18:27:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.141] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T18:28:40 < Rob235> is it normal for a receiver to drop frames somewhat regularly? 2016-07-24T18:29:01 < Rob235> hmm maybe it was just where I had the radio tx, took it off my bed and haven't had a drop since 2016-07-24T18:29:01 < ReadError> no 2016-07-24T18:29:05 < englishman> what is the issue 2016-07-24T18:29:08 < ReadError> if its really close it can 2016-07-24T18:29:14 < Rob235> yea its close 2016-07-24T18:29:14 < ReadError> x8r has that prab 2016-07-24T18:29:32 < Rob235> ok I'm good then 2016-07-24T18:33:37 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: that pluging legit? 2016-07-24T18:46:22 < ReadError> oi 2016-07-24T18:46:23 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=XAL6060 2016-07-24T18:46:28 < ReadError> can anyone outside the usa check that 2016-07-24T18:46:33 < ReadError> and see if they show avail? 2016-07-24T18:47:57 < englishman> Mouser does not presently sell this product. 2016-07-24T18:48:22 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/qkboV4S.png 2016-07-24T18:48:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T18:48:45 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/VNC64me.png 2016-07-24T18:48:51 < ReadError> wasnt sure if reverse ITAR or wat 2016-07-24T18:49:52 < englishman> probably just mauser being retarded as usual 2016-07-24T18:57:52 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-24T19:01:06 < Rob235> damn, i broke my pid and not sure how 2016-07-24T19:03:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-178-152.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T19:04:46 < kakimir> what I was doing... 2016-07-24T19:05:26 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-130-179.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-24T19:05:41 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-24T19:05:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-24T19:07:07 < Steffanx> Don't you git/svn/[insert other vcs] here, Rob235? 2016-07-24T19:07:15 < Rob235> nope :) 2016-07-24T19:07:31 < Rob235> never tried versioning or whatever you call it 2016-07-24T19:07:58 < ReadError> guess coil craft only sells direct now 2016-07-24T19:08:28 < Steffanx> here it does http://nl.mouser.com/images/search-logos/4291103310.png ReadError 2016-07-24T19:08:54 < ReadError> ahh see so I was right 2016-07-24T19:09:08 < ReadError> guess they wanted US/CAD distro themselves, digikey dont have em either 2016-07-24T19:09:34 < ReadError> shame because they have some noice inductors too 2016-07-24T19:12:56 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T19:13:16 < Rob235> damn, this is more fucked up than I thought, what the hell did I do? 2016-07-24T19:13:24 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-24T19:16:40 < ReadError> copy files to another dir 2016-07-24T19:16:42 < ReadError> ctrl+z 2016-07-24T19:16:46 < ReadError> as much as you can? 2016-07-24T19:17:23 < Rob235> haven't even worked on pid today so undo wont help 2016-07-24T19:17:35 < Rob235> oh well, just gotta go through it and find out whats going on 2016-07-24T19:17:50 < ReadError> atleast the leds work 2016-07-24T19:17:53 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-24T19:18:29 < Rob235> tuning the pid was the last thing I had to do... now I have to fix pid and tune 2016-07-24T19:19:59 < Rob235> maybe I should take out the integral portion for now, that seems like the most place an error would be 2016-07-24T19:20:20 < Rob235> most likely* 2016-07-24T19:23:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-24T19:26:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-24T19:26:40 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T19:30:17 < Laurenceb__> ooh I'm back 2016-07-24T19:35:18 < ReadError> how much cuck could a cockcuck cuck if a cockcuck could cuck cock 2016-07-24T19:37:38 < englishman> ^ b& 2016-07-24T19:37:51 < englishman> funny i remember buying coilcrap from crappykey before 2016-07-24T19:38:35 < ReadError> they let you sample qty 10 * 8 2016-07-24T19:41:25 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T19:42:58 < carabia> Can you set the BR-bits when SPE-bit is enabled in SPI_CR1? 2016-07-24T19:43:16 < carabia> On stm32f103 2016-07-24T19:44:14 < carabia> as in, does it successfully change the baud rate or do you need to toggle the spe-bit 2016-07-24T19:51:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.201] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T19:51:59 < Laurenceb__> top bantz ReadError 2016-07-24T19:52:23 < Laurenceb__> you are letting someone fuck your wife....you are a cuck. 2016-07-24T19:52:34 < Laurenceb__> But if you're at an orgy your'e also cucking the cuck 2016-07-24T19:52:42 < Laurenceb__> CUCKCEPTION 2016-07-24T19:53:43 < Steffanx> afaik, no carabia. Just no communication must going on, see ref manual ;) 2016-07-24T19:54:19 < carabia> Steffanx, yeah, it was a bit ambiguous to me 2016-07-24T19:59:35 < Steffanx> also calling us worse than #electronics and then expect a serious answer, meh :P 2016-07-24T20:02:15 < ReadError> lol where did he do that 2016-07-24T20:02:20 < Steffanx> here 2016-07-24T20:02:23 < Steffanx> and then he left. 2016-07-24T20:03:12 < ReadError> oh heh 2016-07-24T20:03:57 < Rob235> ok pid is close to back to working, integral part is still a bit fucked 2016-07-24T20:05:00 < ReadError> using HITL to test or something? 2016-07-24T20:05:23 < carabia> Steffanx, and said two statements are unrelated. I do think it's the truth. 2016-07-24T20:05:28 < Rob235> I'm just using my drone dashboard 2016-07-24T20:05:50 < ReadError> worse than ##electronics is quite offensive my friend 2016-07-24T20:06:03 < ReadError> upthere with worse than #arduino 2016-07-24T20:06:29 < carabia> Steffanx, I'd say you're one of the - if not the only - one from whom I'd expect a serious answer not related to vaping, or something else completely besides the point 2016-07-24T20:07:00 < carabia> So yeah, thanks and catch ya on the flipside... 2016-07-24T20:07:02 -!- carabia [~carabia@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50df57-218.dhcp.inet.fi] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-07-24T20:07:13 < Steffanx> lol 2016-07-24T20:07:14 < Rob235> carabia: I've learned long ago that my process is to come in here, ask my question and figure it out on my own 2016-07-24T20:07:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-24T20:07:40 -!- c10ud` [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T20:07:58 < Steffanx> he's gone 2016-07-24T20:08:02 < Rob235> yea i noticed 2016-07-24T20:08:27 < Steffanx> We are your rubber duck. 2016-07-24T20:08:52 < Rob235> getting annoyed... dab time 2016-07-24T20:09:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T20:09:44 -!- c10ud` [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-24T20:11:17 < Rob235> googling hitl is interesting... 2016-07-24T20:11:25 < Rob235> half hitler half what I want 2016-07-24T20:14:09 < Steffanx> hehe, such bad choice of name for a project. 2016-07-24T20:16:44 < Rob235> hmm how does the integral part of pid work? say you are trying to auto level and you are at roll=45*... as the angle gets closer and closer to 0 the error sum is still increasing, even when it reaches zero its still not decreasing. am I understanding something wrong? 2016-07-24T20:17:08 < Rob235> it sounds like it should be adding the difference between the current error and last error 2016-07-24T20:17:31 < Rob235> then as the error decreasing the integral part starts to decrease because the change is negative? 2016-07-24T20:25:29 < Rob235> I think it's working right....? :P 2016-07-24T20:31:04 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-24T20:33:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-07-24T20:35:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-24T20:40:42 < Steffanx> what is working mr Rob235? 2016-07-24T20:40:48 < Rob235> pid 2016-07-24T20:41:06 < Rob235> but its not, trying to work something out with pitch 2016-07-24T20:41:16 < Steffanx> When the set point is reached, the error is 0, so the integral does no longer change. 2016-07-24T20:41:44 < Steffanx> it's not really supposed to go back to 0 2016-07-24T20:44:11 < Rob235> i think I fixed the pitch issue 2016-07-24T20:44:57 < englishman> anyone who says this chan is worse than #electronics is either a pro arduino user, or came in during an unfortunate Laurenceb__ chat bomb 2016-07-24T20:45:13 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-07-24T20:48:47 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/JY3fgL8.jpg 2016-07-24T21:12:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.190] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T21:19:34 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/sKOb8zR7rsA 2016-07-24T21:20:04 < Rob235> 1:15 to 1:25 you can see the pitch is ok but roll messes with the wrong motors 2016-07-24T21:20:44 < Rob235> I cranked up all the pid constants obviously, especially d which is linked to gyro 2016-07-24T21:23:29 < englishman> this is already better ui than horse telemetry will ever have 2016-07-24T21:23:51 < Rob235> I don't know what horse telemetry is but thanks 2016-07-24T21:28:20 < Rob235> ugh why cant this just work 2016-07-24T21:29:24 < ReadError> wtf am i looking at 2016-07-24T21:29:48 < Rob235> mine? the motor outputs on bottom right 2016-07-24T21:30:10 < Rob235> see how when I adjust roll the top or bottom motors turn red correctly, but when I roll it will be like the left motor and top/bottom right motors 2016-07-24T21:30:21 < Rob235> sorry first roll = pitch 2016-07-24T21:30:38 < ReadError> maybe pi graphs would be easier to see 2016-07-24T21:30:43 < ReadError> pie chart 2016-07-24T21:30:46 < ReadError> style 2016-07-24T21:31:05 < Rob235> maybe but the problem stands out pretty clearly 2016-07-24T21:31:59 < Rob235> I'm going to have to output all the pid values and stuff I guess if I want to really know what's going on 2016-07-24T21:32:47 < Sync> you should only need pi regulators 2016-07-24T21:37:34 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vqsc9j2qjuu3b.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T21:48:06 < Laurenceb__> try ZN tuning 2016-07-24T21:48:16 < Laurenceb__> to get some sane values that more or less work 2016-07-24T21:48:20 < Laurenceb__> then hand tune 2016-07-24T21:49:01 < Rob235> I have to get it working first, the only thing I just thought of though is maybe its multiplying by such a large value that its overflowing but I don't even know if that makes sense 2016-07-24T21:49:36 < Rob235> i'll try a smaller value 2016-07-24T21:50:19 < Sync> are you clamping your pid stages properly 2016-07-24T21:50:40 < Rob235> I think I am only clamping the integral part 2016-07-24T21:51:26 < Sync> fixed or dynamically? 2016-07-24T21:51:39 < ReadError> how are you testing this anyways? 2016-07-24T21:52:00 < ReadError> runaway can happen if theres nothing actually happening 2016-07-24T21:52:33 < Rob235> just clamping for windup with a fixed max 2016-07-24T21:52:44 < Sync> that is useless ;) 2016-07-24T21:52:51 < Sync> say your max output is 200 2016-07-24T21:52:58 < Sync> and your p content is 150 2016-07-24T21:53:08 < Sync> your I and D content cannot be more than 50 2016-07-24T21:53:24 < Sync> so you have to clamp I to 50 2016-07-24T21:53:25 < Rob235> I have it scale everything 2016-07-24T21:54:05 < Rob235> if the range of min motor output to max motor output is higher than the range of acceptable values (1068-1868 or whatever) then it scales it down to that range 2016-07-24T21:54:13 < Rob235> so that proportions are kept 2016-07-24T21:54:42 < Sync> o_0 2016-07-24T21:55:05 < Sync> well, that's not very clever 2016-07-24T21:55:14 < Rob235> why 2016-07-24T21:55:29 < Sync> if your values are actual values 2016-07-24T21:55:32 < Sync> like °/s 2016-07-24T21:55:40 < Sync> scaling them, will make it differ from those units 2016-07-24T21:55:46 < Sync> making it .9°/s or shits 2016-07-24T21:56:22 < Sync> just clamp your max output if P is too high and limit I to the actual avalible room you can output 2016-07-24T21:56:41 < ReadError> you should have some overhead at the top 2016-07-24T21:56:46 < ReadError> or you will get clipping 2016-07-24T21:57:02 < Rob235> ReadError: the reason I did my method was to avoid clipping 2016-07-24T21:57:26 < Sync> clipping is not bad, as long as your integrator does not go wild 2016-07-24T21:58:35 < Sync> that is like saying "never go full throttle, because then you got nothing left" 2016-07-24T21:58:56 < Sync> you are artificially lowering your dynamic, with no actual reason for it 2016-07-24T21:59:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-24T21:59:38 < ReadError> well if you are at full throttle and yaw 2016-07-24T21:59:47 < ReadError> it could drop 2016-07-24T22:00:17 < ReadError> but yea i guess its not too often that would be an issue 2016-07-24T22:00:49 < Sync> well, yes you have to limit your pilots control inputs to an amount that the controller still has margin 2016-07-24T22:01:02 < Sync> but that is not a general pid problem 2016-07-24T22:01:32 < ReadError> yea i was thinking more along limiting input 2016-07-24T22:01:35 < ReadError> not the PIDs output 2016-07-24T22:01:39 < Laurenceb__> https://ukhas.org.uk/code:parafoil_tsip 2016-07-24T22:01:39 < ReadError> PID should have fullrange 2016-07-24T22:01:55 < Laurenceb__> check ISR(TIMER1_COMPB 2016-07-24T22:02:00 < Laurenceb__> for PID example 2016-07-24T22:02:56 < Sync> doesn't have dynamic I clamp 2016-07-24T22:04:46 < ReadError> Rob235 why not grab a simple pid loop that works? 2016-07-24T22:05:25 < ReadError> or a smaller quad which wont hurt as much when it crashes 2016-07-24T22:05:55 < Rob235> I thought I had, I changed some stuff like the clipping solution but it mostly works right now, just one small problem 2016-07-24T22:06:15 < Laurenceb__> Sync: whats a dynamic I clamp? 2016-07-24T22:06:33 < Rob235> Sync: just clamp your max output if P is too high and limit I to the actual avalible room you can output 2016-07-24T22:06:51 < Rob235> I'm assuming that's what he means 2016-07-24T22:06:59 < Laurenceb__> so it clamps I from changing whilst error is too high 2016-07-24T22:07:11 < Laurenceb__> interesting 2016-07-24T22:07:59 < Sync> it will make I 0 if you are saturating your output with P 2016-07-24T22:08:04 < Laurenceb__> ok 2016-07-24T22:08:07 < Sync> because you are already fully on the gas 2016-07-24T22:08:11 < Sync> no need to integrate error 2016-07-24T22:08:14 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T22:08:21 < Sync> can't press it any harder 2016-07-24T22:08:30 < Rob235> i don't see how that's a good thing 2016-07-24T22:08:59 < Laurenceb__> kind of makes sense to me 2016-07-24T22:08:59 < Rob235> keeping ratios sounds like a better result 2016-07-24T22:09:06 < Sync> no 2016-07-24T22:09:23 < Laurenceb__> but I'd probably limit the size of the error that goes into the integrator 2016-07-24T22:09:32 < Sync> in the best case the result is the same 2016-07-24T22:10:00 < Sync> Laurenceb__: if your output is saturated, you can't integrate error 2016-07-24T22:10:06 < Sync> otherwise you are forced to overshoot 2016-07-24T22:10:29 < Sync> to get rid of your integral 2016-07-24T22:13:43 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-24T22:13:52 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T22:22:17 < Rob235> AHHHHAHAHA 2016-07-24T22:22:19 < Rob235> figured it out 2016-07-24T22:22:29 < Rob235> yaw and roll are switched 2016-07-24T22:22:38 < Rob235> yaw is supposed to do every other motor 2016-07-24T22:22:49 < Rob235> i just tested yaw and it behaved how roll is supposed to 2016-07-24T22:23:40 < Rob235> just gotta find out where 2016-07-24T22:26:25 < Rob235> workin now 2016-07-24T22:28:25 < Rob235> i need to find a picture showing clockwise and ccw yaw, not sure what motors should do what 2016-07-24T22:48:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-24T23:05:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-24T23:10:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:50a4:9205:b09c:5ee4] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-24T23:13:27 < kakimir> what is the difference between normal gelcoat and tooling gelcoat 2016-07-24T23:13:28 < kakimir> ? 2016-07-24T23:24:25 < Lux> Rob235: basically if you spin the cw motors faster it should rotate ccw and vice versa 2016-07-24T23:25:07 < Rob235> ugh, some idiot just told me the opposite, thats how I thought it was 2016-07-24T23:25:10 < Rob235> thanks 2016-07-24T23:26:41 < Steffanx> Was it some irc EE idiot Rob235? 2016-07-24T23:26:43 < Steffanx> Never trust those. 2016-07-24T23:26:51 < Lux> :) 2016-07-24T23:26:58 < Lux> it's just basic high school phyiscs 2016-07-24T23:27:06 < Lux> any kid should know 2016-07-24T23:28:04 < Lux> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentum#Conservation_of_angular_momentum 2016-07-24T23:35:05 < ReadError> [15:40:04] Rob235: on a hexacopter, which motors spin faster/slower to rotate heading cw/ccw? 2016-07-24T23:35:05 < ReadError> [16:17:07] kerwood: all of them, it's a transfer of angular momentum 2016-07-24T23:36:39 < Rob235> haha 2016-07-24T23:38:36 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/syLk6B3lLv4 2016-07-24T23:38:49 < Rob235> but yaw is wrong because I went on false info, just gotta adjust that 2016-07-24T23:45:17 < Rob235> fixed 2016-07-24T23:45:27 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-24T23:45:37 < Rob235> things be looking good 2016-07-24T23:51:05 < Lux> any idea if disabling transmit on uart also puts the tx pin floating or just in idle state ? 2016-07-24T23:51:22 < Lux> i.e setting that transmit enable bit 0 in CR1 2016-07-24T23:51:42 < Lux> on a f031 chip with the new fancier usart 2016-07-24T23:58:48 < Rob235> is having: enable dma; while(dma_notenabled); a bad idea without a check? I haven't had it hang anywhere yet 2016-07-24T23:59:44 < Lux> why are you doing that in the first place ? --- Day changed Mon Jul 25 2016 2016-07-25T00:00:17 < kakimir> I need some very good soaring simulator for pc 2016-07-25T00:00:32 < Rob235> to wait until its enabled/disabled before doing anything else 2016-07-25T00:01:13 < Rob235> I don't want to set a variable that dma isn't running just because I set the disable bit, if its still going the bit wont be set instantly 2016-07-25T00:01:16 < Rob235> and it could fuck things up 2016-07-25T00:02:23 < Rob235> I'm going to count all the time spent in those loops and see if its actually wasting time or not 2016-07-25T00:06:42 < kakimir> so fsx + cumulusx + winchx would be it 2016-07-25T00:06:47 < ReadError> how heavy is your code such that you arent wasting time ? 2016-07-25T00:08:32 < Rob235> it must be pretty heavy which I didn't realize until yesterday when I started checking update rates for each of the peripherals 2016-07-25T00:09:33 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJgfXjokac 2016-07-25T00:09:44 < Rob235> without outputting the serial packet for my drone dashboard I don't think it could run any faster, but if I send the packet 30-50 times a second then things only update at like half speed 2016-07-25T00:10:10 < Rob235> even 1 per second makes it not run full speed 2016-07-25T00:10:30 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Airflow-MicroATX-Mini-ITX/dp/B00LA6Y5XQ/ 2016-07-25T00:12:41 < kakimir> nice case 2016-07-25T00:12:46 < Steffanx> deja vu 2016-07-25T00:14:13 < Steffanx> or are you relinking because cheaper ReadError? 2016-07-25T00:14:55 < ReadError> Steffanx nah was just browsing and liked 2016-07-25T00:15:07 < ReadError> and remembered someone was looking 2016-07-25T00:15:09 < Steffanx> but you already have it right? 2016-07-25T00:15:18 < ReadError> i have the big one 2016-07-25T00:15:20 < Steffanx> oh no that was the 240 2016-07-25T00:15:23 < Steffanx> *540 2016-07-25T00:16:05 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-High-Airflow-Cube/dp/B00D6GINF4/ that ya 2016-07-25T00:16:39 < kakimir> I would pay extra penny for black box 2016-07-25T00:16:44 < kakimir> or just spray paint it 2016-07-25T00:17:00 < kakimir> that is as good 2016-07-25T00:17:50 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Motherboard-DDR4-SABERTOOTH-Z170/dp/B01ARORJF2/ 2016-07-25T00:17:59 < ReadError> lol white PC parts are making a comeback 2016-07-25T00:18:23 < kakimir> I think I need to buy a pc 2016-07-25T00:18:24 < Rob235> thats kinda cool looking 2016-07-25T00:18:30 < ReadError> ya i was gonna say 2016-07-25T00:18:31 < kakimir> liek desktop shiet 2016-07-25T00:18:42 < Steffanx> My pc is not on my desk, so i dont care how it looks :P 2016-07-25T00:18:42 < ReadError> interested to see how they did it 2016-07-25T00:18:55 < Rob235> I want to upgrade my gaming htpc video card when the new hydro copper comes out 2016-07-25T00:18:55 < ReadError> oh grey silk 2016-07-25T00:19:10 < kakimir> my pc is bare minimum components 2016-07-25T00:19:25 < kakimir> on the table 2016-07-25T00:19:29 < kakimir> *was 2016-07-25T00:23:52 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: why not make a computer? 2016-07-25T00:23:54 < Laurenceb__> https://pics.onsizzle.com/talented-11-year-old-joshua-ngoka-builds-computer-the-east-london-student-2546469.png 2016-07-25T00:24:57 < kakimir> london 2016-07-25T00:25:01 < Rob235> people still buy ready made pcs? :) 2016-07-25T00:29:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-25T00:37:54 < kakimir> is there composites specialists around? 2016-07-25T00:38:46 < kakimir> I thinks Sync went to sleep 2016-07-25T00:41:05 -!- a_morale [~quassel@178.62.70.160] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-25T00:43:15 -!- a_morale [~quassel@178.62.70.160] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T00:45:27 < Laurenceb__> what doi you want to know? 2016-07-25T00:45:40 < kakimir> all the release agent shiet 2016-07-25T00:45:50 < kakimir> there is like a tonne of different stuff 2016-07-25T00:46:08 < Laurenceb__> oh I dont know 2016-07-25T00:46:20 < Laurenceb__> I've done a bit of composites stuff but always used PE bags 2016-07-25T00:46:49 < ReadError> does pulling a vac accel the resin? 2016-07-25T00:46:55 < ReadError> kinda like how it lowers the bp of water etc 2016-07-25T00:47:12 < kakimir> I think it just sucks it 2016-07-25T00:47:18 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-07-25T00:47:42 < Laurenceb__> I've used PVC free cling film for some EDM machined stainless molds 2016-07-25T00:47:49 < kakimir> athmospheric pressure actually pushess it from can to hose and from hose to laminate 2016-07-25T00:47:54 < Laurenceb__> they were originally made for injection molding 2016-07-25T00:48:18 < ReadError> kakimir if you pull a hard enough vac water boils at room temp 2016-07-25T00:48:27 < kakimir> sure 2016-07-25T00:48:34 < kakimir> and many other things too 2016-07-25T00:48:42 < ReadError> so im wondering what happens to the epoxy under a strong vac 2016-07-25T00:49:27 < kakimir> boil and also just vaporize directly from solid form 2016-07-25T00:50:22 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: so dis the film come of? 2016-07-25T00:50:35 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-07-25T00:51:23 < Laurenceb__> PVC free cling film is LDPE so it will peel off 2016-07-25T00:53:12 < kakimir> how would it be as bagging material? 2016-07-25T00:53:13 < kakimir> fail? 2016-07-25T00:53:45 < Laurenceb__> probably hard to use for vacuum bagging 2016-07-25T00:54:02 < Laurenceb__> I used it as it could be stretched to cover the stainless 2016-07-25T00:55:04 < Laurenceb__> doh I fail 2016-07-25T00:55:08 < Laurenceb__> https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&u=http://www.dlrk2016.dglr.de/programm/sitzungsliste/index.html&usg=ALkJrhiXCaWzw3DO2Gg7GPd5KNknAyk8Hw 2016-07-25T00:55:21 < Laurenceb__> was going to attend this but they kept changing the date :( 2016-07-25T00:56:14 < Laurenceb__> next year I guess 2016-07-25T00:57:20 < Laurenceb__> wait not that - the airship one 2016-07-25T00:57:22 < Laurenceb__> nvm 2016-07-25T00:59:43 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtlyactnalydeuyq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-25T00:59:48 < Laurenceb__> Workshop: key technologies for the operational use of UAS and missiles 2016-07-25T00:59:52 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-25T01:04:25 < Rob235> so I've been using a pid that uses angle error, rate error sounds more complicated, is it better? how do you go from angle to rate. or are those just like two different modes of flying? 2016-07-25T01:05:52 < zyp> rate is the derivate of angle 2016-07-25T01:05:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-25T01:06:14 < zyp> gyro measures rate directly, then you integrate it to get angle 2016-07-25T01:06:25 < zyp> and yes, rate and angle are two different modes of flying 2016-07-25T01:06:35 < zyp> you can't loop in angle mode 2016-07-25T01:06:38 < zyp> for instance 2016-07-25T01:15:11 < Rob235> I think I'll stick with angle for now then 2016-07-25T01:24:45 < Rob235> what p value do you think would be good if passing in an angle? 2016-07-25T01:44:09 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f7752ea.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-25T02:01:19 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-25T02:12:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-16-223-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T02:13:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T02:15:23 < Rob235> nice, these props don't need to be balanced 2016-07-25T02:20:50 < Rob235> spoke too soon, I'm 2 for 2 2016-07-25T02:20:55 < Rob235> 2 for 4 2016-07-25T02:21:41 < Lux> you can't really tell what p value to use, as it depends on your implementation and copter 2016-07-25T02:21:56 < Lux> just start low and increase till it works and is still stable 2016-07-25T02:22:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-16-223-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-25T02:24:06 < Sync> Rob235: you can cascade the two 2016-07-25T02:24:39 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-25T02:29:04 < Rob235> 4 out of 8 were balanced, gonna have to break out the dremel 2016-07-25T02:29:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-16-223-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T02:29:07 < Lux> ya i'd def to that pid for rate and a cascaded p regulator for level mode 2016-07-25T02:31:04 < Lux> and probably a rig like that should help with finding some initial parameters: https://www.google.at/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjpr93loI3OAhWCVxQKHdVlALUQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdiydrones.com%2Fm%2Fblogpost%3Fid%3D705844%253ABlogPost%253A1133769&psig=AFQjCNFYo9H2LD3_4Kkw0_msr64MV-4IeA&ust=1469489404130624 2016-07-25T02:31:23 < Lux> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AY7NMnKB5wI/USLL1Noo-4I/AAAAAAAAby4/dYDaY05MsEU/s1600/PID+Adjustment+Rig.png 2016-07-25T02:31:47 < dongs> sup doges 2016-07-25T02:35:46 < Rob235> pid'ing 2016-07-25T02:36:30 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/kNf6S5R.jpg 2016-07-25T02:36:37 < ReadError> some guys openpnp pron 2016-07-25T02:36:49 < ReadError> pretty decent placement on the stm32 2016-07-25T02:37:39 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/KJWIMWv.jpg 2016-07-25T02:40:44 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjsffmwqxxyrkxxv] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T02:47:34 < Rob235> so essentially the inner part is the d term with gyro (rate) and the outer is the P I with angles as inputs and rate as output 2016-07-25T02:48:36 < Rob235> that will be easy to break up, i'll stick with the pid for now, i'll change it when I add rate mode 2016-07-25T02:49:00 < dongs> the fuck is up with that paste 2016-07-25T02:49:03 < dongs> fucking awful garbage 2016-07-25T02:49:07 < dongs> that entire board is awful 2016-07-25T02:49:14 < dongs> fucking opensores 2016-07-25T02:49:48 < Laurenceb__> fucking fuck fuck cuck 2016-07-25T02:50:11 < dongs> yeah im about to get busy 2016-07-25T02:50:12 < dongs> see ya 2016-07-25T02:53:12 < ReadError> dongs placement is okay tho 2016-07-25T02:53:25 < ReadError> paste is pretty shit 2016-07-25T02:58:03 < ReadError> [19:36:30] ReadError: http://i.imgur.com/kNf6S5R.jpg 2016-07-25T02:58:04 < ReadError> [19:36:37] ReadError: some guys openpnp pron 2016-07-25T02:58:04 < ReadError> [19:36:49] ReadError: pretty decent placement on the stm32 2016-07-25T02:58:04 < ReadError> [19:37:39] ReadError: http://i.imgur.com/KJWIMWv.jpg 2016-07-25T02:58:55 < dongs> haha i see some LED pcb with 30.5mm hole spacing on freecancer 2016-07-25T02:59:01 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Schematic-PCB-design-ready-manufacture-11092273/ 2016-07-25T02:59:18 < dongs> noi fucking way hes getting that shit for $100, thats 5 separate PCBs to layout, no matter how simple 2016-07-25T03:01:12 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T03:02:15 < ReadError> Keep the video trace clean - signal clarity and low latency are key. 2016-07-25T03:02:17 < ReadError> lol what 2016-07-25T03:02:28 < ReadError> cant see pdfs 2016-07-25T03:02:33 < ReadError> whats special about video 2016-07-25T03:03:40 < dongs> nothing 2016-07-25T03:03:48 < dongs> there's a molex picoblade thats marked "video trace" 2016-07-25T03:03:55 < dongs> im guessing theres some shit from camera/vtx going on 2016-07-25T03:04:02 < dongs> the pdfs look awful 2016-07-25T03:06:05 * Laurenceb__ is reading DLR airship conference presentations 2016-07-25T03:07:38 < Laurenceb__> "it has become very clear that REAL calculations and carefully written professional analyses turn out to be a REAL horror for all the fast talking and insistent so called inventors" 2016-07-25T03:07:41 < Laurenceb__> top kek 2016-07-25T03:08:07 < Laurenceb__> the story of zano 2016-07-25T03:08:16 < Laurenceb__> and hyperloop 2016-07-25T03:09:30 < Laurenceb__> I had a presentation to submit but missed the deadline as I suck/they suck (date changed but I forgot to check site) 2016-07-25T03:09:32 < Laurenceb__> epic fail 2016-07-25T03:15:45 < BrainDamage> no perchè per il teorema di bloch la funzione d'onda è un autostato di tutti gli operatori translazionali, basta che passi al reticolo inverso con la trasformata e decomponi sulla base 2016-07-25T03:15:49 < BrainDamage> bleh 2016-07-25T03:15:55 < BrainDamage> wrong channel 2016-07-25T03:16:32 < BrainDamage> i have no idea what that means 2016-07-25T03:17:00 < BrainDamage> mine was an accident, yours not 2016-07-25T03:17:51 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T03:18:28 < BrainDamage> undergrad physics 2016-07-25T03:18:45 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloch_wave 2016-07-25T03:22:09 < Rob235> oh right... I was actually gonna test my drone (calibration and arming, nothing else)... forgot my motor library was fucked. 2016-07-25T03:23:35 < Rob235> I'm sure its something simple, I'm just not in the mood to look at it right now. gonna take a break and fix it in a bit 2016-07-25T03:23:45 < Rob235> it just freezes up 2016-07-25T03:24:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T03:24:14 < Rob235> probably just setting up the timers incorrectly or something 2016-07-25T03:27:18 < Rob235> I love working with it. Hasn't been long but only tried arduino for a few months before switching 2016-07-25T03:28:07 < Rob235> I did just get something new though. I forget what its called 2016-07-25T03:28:36 < Rob235> https://developer.mbed.org/platforms/mbed-LPC1768/ 2016-07-25T03:28:45 < Rob235> I just got that to try using its usb host abilities 2016-07-25T03:30:15 < Rob235> I should probably read a bit about basic electrical engineering stuff. 2016-07-25T03:30:20 < Laurenceb__> heh DGLR looks pretty cool, they have speakers ripping all kinds of BS projects to shreds 2016-07-25T03:30:30 < Rob235> so I can do more than just use breakout boards 2016-07-25T03:31:15 < BrainDamage> if you don't like math, several people suggest "the art of electronics", altought that book never flied for me personally 2016-07-25T03:31:31 < dongs> the art of stonertronics 2016-07-25T03:32:57 < Rob235> I might check out youtube. I know a lot of tutorial series are crap but it's my favorite way to learn. throw on a playlist and lay there and watch. then after that read more indepth info with a decent understanding 2016-07-25T03:33:05 < Laurenceb__> I have long since packed away my tronics into books 2016-07-25T03:33:23 < Laurenceb__> think I have art of electronics, but concluded it was a bit poor 2016-07-25T03:33:31 < Laurenceb__> *intro 2016-07-25T03:33:46 < zyp> everybody has that one 2016-07-25T03:34:43 < Laurenceb__> lul maybe this is just poorly translated German 2016-07-25T03:35:08 < Laurenceb__> "the awful species know as the 'inventor' needs to be made extinct" 2016-07-25T03:35:20 < Laurenceb__> gas the inventors 2016-07-25T03:36:15 < BrainDamage> you'd love william shockley speeches 2016-07-25T03:36:24 < Laurenceb__> "self appointed promoters will only occupy your time with pointless and lengthy 'discussions'" 2016-07-25T03:36:33 < BrainDamage> he did literally say gas the jews and few others many times 2016-07-25T03:37:05 < Laurenceb__> should have worked at DGLR 2016-07-25T03:37:33 < Laurenceb__> someone needs to tell DGLR guys about kickstarter 2016-07-25T03:37:38 < ReadError> watch eevblog 2016-07-25T03:37:55 < ReadError> quickest way to ee-proness i heard 2016-07-25T03:38:09 < Laurenceb__> top trolling m8 2016-07-25T03:40:30 < Sync> BrainDamage: it is not that bad imho, but yeah usually it falls a bit short 2016-07-25T03:41:11 < Laurenceb__> better than firefox on lunix, kills the system with > ~4k pixel wide images 2016-07-25T03:42:52 < Laurenceb__> good way to troll people I guess 2016-07-25T03:43:07 < BrainDamage> you can make a png bomb in few kB 2016-07-25T03:43:36 < Laurenceb__> interesting 2016-07-25T03:44:20 < Laurenceb__> lul this channel is degenerating into primary school level bantz 2016-07-25T03:52:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-25T03:52:03 < dongs> is that a fucking laserdisk 2016-07-25T03:59:42 < Laurenceb__> where crt stores his pron 2016-07-25T03:59:52 < Laurenceb__> probably fapping to my mum 2016-07-25T04:00:16 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-25T04:00:41 < Laurenceb__> I think she appears on some laserdiscs 2016-07-25T04:01:31 < zyp> nice to know 2016-07-25T04:02:35 < Laurenceb__> now you will never fap to vintage pron again 2016-07-25T04:02:42 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-07-25T04:03:16 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-25T04:03:30 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T04:07:00 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-25T04:07:36 < BrainDamage> quite a shock, i tought he was laid in an egg and abandoned somwhere 2016-07-25T04:11:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T04:18:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-24-16-223-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-25T04:40:23 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 2016-07-25T04:42:39 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T04:47:47 < PeterM> hi 2016-07-25T05:02:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.46] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-25T05:13:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T05:16:01 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-25T05:17:26 < dongs> vape innovation 2016-07-25T05:34:10 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-25T05:45:54 < englishman> is that a .8mm pin pitch stm32 2016-07-25T05:45:57 < englishman> why. 2016-07-25T05:46:06 < dongs> looks like LQFP32 or someshit 2016-07-25T05:46:16 < englishman> more money and less useful 2016-07-25T05:46:28 < dongs> never question MAKE:Rs 2016-07-25T05:49:14 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T05:53:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-25T06:09:56 < ReadError> i wanna make a pcb enclosure but i think a real one would be cheaper 2016-07-25T06:13:16 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/lHtmGiA.jpg 2016-07-25T06:27:30 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/FXesxsY.jpg 2016-07-25T06:31:20 < dongs> whhat is this garbage 2016-07-25T06:31:29 < dongs> i think you know where to /msg that kinda links, ReadError 2016-07-25T06:56:28 < dongs> damn, trump owns some nice golf courses 2016-07-25T07:06:23 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/2KkWJIF.jpg 2016-07-25T07:07:34 < ReadError> catcircles 2016-07-25T07:11:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T07:17:54 < dongs> http://www.photostencil.com/products/step-stencils-electroform.php 2016-07-25T07:18:40 < ReadError> any chink place do cheap copper pcb? 2016-07-25T07:18:42 < ReadError> 1L 2016-07-25T07:18:53 < dongs> you mean phenol shit? 2016-07-25T07:18:54 < ReadError> smartproto does AL 2016-07-25T07:19:16 < dongs> oh copper as in... board itself is copper/ 2016-07-25T07:19:16 < dongs> wat 2016-07-25T07:19:19 < ReadError> yea, copper+dielectric+mask 2016-07-25T07:19:22 < dongs> o 2016-07-25T07:19:22 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-25T07:19:28 < dongs> donno.. only did alu 2016-07-25T07:46:01 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T07:49:28 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-25T08:33:35 < ReadError> 22 windows, 663 tabs: 25th July 2016 2016-07-25T08:33:40 < ReadError> time to reclaim memory 2016-07-25T08:43:08 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T08:43:30 < timemob> I'll never understand the point of tabs 2016-07-25T08:43:53 < timemob> everything they do is less efficient than separate windows 2016-07-25T08:50:35 < timemob> chrome task manager is awful too 2016-07-25T08:51:04 < timemob> every page title is prefixed with "tab: " lol so you can't sort it 2016-07-25T08:52:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T08:59:24 < upgrdman> anyone know if iar ewarm has a free code-limited version? for atmel samA5 if that makes a diff 2016-07-25T08:59:57 < dongs> it does 2016-07-25T09:00:01 < dongs> not sure about a5 tho 2016-07-25T09:00:08 < dongs> they do have free/ trial downloads for cortex 2016-07-25T09:00:18 < dongs> cortex-m that is 2016-07-25T09:00:52 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:01:01 < dongs> https://www.iar.com/iar-embedded-workbench/#!?architecture=ARM 2016-07-25T09:01:02 < dongs> upgrdman_: ^ 2016-07-25T09:01:18 < dongs> a 30-day time-limited but fully functional license 2016-07-25T09:01:19 < dongs> a size-limited Kickstart license without any time limit 2016-07-25T09:01:20 < upgrdman_> thx 2016-07-25T09:01:27 < dongs> its a ~1.1gb download 2016-07-25T09:01:31 < upgrdman_> nice 2016-07-25T09:01:31 < dongs> so... 2016-07-25T09:01:35 < dongs> ENJOY CHINANETS 2016-07-25T09:02:03 < upgrdman_> "here's the ide..." "cd.exe, crack.exe, screenshots in chinese" like i really want to install that 2016-07-25T09:04:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-25T09:04:54 < boB_K7IQ> I seem to remember that Keil was way more expensive than IAR 2016-07-25T09:05:11 < upgrdman_> dongs, "Source code for runtime libraries is not included." wuts that mean. like i only get CMSIS? 2016-07-25T09:05:13 < boB_K7IQ> IAR is about $3.8K for 256K bytes 2016-07-25T09:05:42 < boB_K7IQ> Keil was about $6K last I checked (within the last year ?) 2016-07-25T09:06:02 < upgrdman_> ya im gonna use IAR because it was the guy the wrote the firmware used, not because i've researched commercial ides and settled on it 2016-07-25T09:06:13 < dongs> upgrdman_: like C runtime 2016-07-25T09:06:15 < dongs> libc etc 2016-07-25T09:06:19 < dongs> who gives a fuck if theres sores for that 2016-07-25T09:06:24 < dongs> itrs like.. 2016-07-25T09:06:26 < dongs> if youre code is fucked 2016-07-25T09:06:29 < dongs> and youre crashing inside libc 2016-07-25T09:06:35 < dongs> cuz you're too dumb and free'ing a FILE * or somethign 2016-07-25T09:06:38 < upgrdman_> dongs, ok, but i can still use it right? like i can atan2() the fuck out of shit, right? 2016-07-25T09:06:42 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-25T09:06:57 < dongs> i dont think any real vendor ships crt code anyway 2016-07-25T09:06:58 < boB_K7IQ> What I didn't like about IAR is that they are kind of bullies and have you by the balls if something goes wrong with your keys 2016-07-25T09:07:00 < dongs> like keil doenst 2016-07-25T09:07:00 < upgrdman_> lol cool 2016-07-25T09:08:04 < dongs> c runtime 2016-07-25T09:08:05 < dongs> you faggot 2016-07-25T09:08:20 < upgrdman_> side note, atmel must have cn mirrors. their shit was super fast. i actually hit 100Mbit/s, that like better than windows update in cn 2016-07-25T09:09:34 < upgrdman_> brb, time to see if IAR has cn mirror 2016-07-25T09:13:46 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:13:51 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-25T09:15:54 -!- upgrdman__ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-25T09:19:43 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjsffmwqxxyrkxxv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-25T09:32:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-25T09:34:27 < ReadError> is there any best practice for routing light in a not straight direction 2016-07-25T09:34:33 < ReadError> like a fiber optic lightpipe 2016-07-25T09:36:12 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-25T09:36:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-155.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:43:16 < dongs> https://gyazo.com/8922d460f2a42f5023a9ad93228c44fb 2016-07-25T09:43:21 < dongs> lol there's pokemang bots out already. 2016-07-25T09:44:26 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/ce9a1RB.jpg 2016-07-25T09:44:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:44:50 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:47:28 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:49:12 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:52:01 < ReadError> https://www.rt.com/viral/352995-china-tiger-woman-death/ 2016-07-25T09:57:09 -!- tim3mob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-5.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:57:16 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T09:57:27 < boB_K7IQ> Man ! That's awful ! 2016-07-25T09:57:42 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T09:58:11 < boB_K7IQ> Just grabbed her and dragged her off 2016-07-25T09:58:33 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T09:58:45 -!- timemob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T09:58:57 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T10:01:39 -!- tim3mob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-5.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-25T10:04:45 < dongs> https://github.com/AnthonyOSX/GO-Bot nice 2016-07-25T10:06:33 -!- stukdev [~quassel@212-124-160-145.v4.ngi.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T10:20:07 < ReadError> any cheap chinafab do plated sloots ? 2016-07-25T10:20:29 < ReadError> just need a couple boards and osh dont 2016-07-25T10:23:29 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T10:25:28 -!- 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[~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T15:21:38 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T15:25:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/PCB-design-sensor-module-Card/ attn eagle proz 2016-07-25T15:25:48 < Steffanx> Kakimir are you around? 2016-07-25T15:25:58 < kakimir> sure I'm 2016-07-25T15:26:05 < Steffanx> Ok. Hi. 2016-07-25T15:27:32 < kakimir> hi 2016-07-25T15:29:07 < kakimir> worries problems Steffanx? 2016-07-25T15:33:13 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T15:33:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T15:33:29 < Steffanx> Just wanted to say hi. 2016-07-25T15:34:46 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-25T15:35:11 < kakimir> do you have summer holidays Steffanx ? 2016-07-25T15:35:22 < Steffanx> Nope. 2016-07-25T15:35:47 < Steffanx> Wish i had. 2016-07-25T15:36:04 < kakimir> is it common not to have summer holiday? 2016-07-25T15:36:10 < kakimir> like in muricas 2016-07-25T15:36:19 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-25T15:36:19 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T15:36:25 < kakimir> at least paid holiday* 2016-07-25T15:36:27 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T15:37:27 < Steffanx> I will have. Next week. 2016-07-25T15:38:06 < Steffanx> And the week after that. 2016-07-25T15:39:27 < kakimir> does it rain like in biblical propotion when you have holiday? 2016-07-25T15:39:34 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T15:43:30 < Steffanx> Time will tell, kakimir. 2016-07-25T15:47:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T15:52:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.46] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-25T15:52:53 < Laurenceb__> ohsix has fled for good 2016-07-25T15:54:25 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T15:54:51 < kakimir> dongs harrashed him? 2016-07-25T16:03:17 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-25T16:03:36 < ReadError> dongs http://gsmartcontrol.sourceforge.net/home/ 2016-07-25T16:03:38 < ReadError> this does it 2016-07-25T16:04:31 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T16:24:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-25T16:49:46 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T16:50:18 < Rob235> oi 2016-07-25T16:50:53 < ReadError> http://www.banggood.com/Q3H-2-Action-Camera-4K-HD-1080P-Wifi-SOS-Waterproof-p-1046951.html 2016-07-25T16:50:58 < ReadError> wondering how garbage this is 2016-07-25T16:51:04 < ReadError> 4k 30fps for 45 bux ? 2016-07-25T16:52:41 < emeryth> "4k" 2016-07-25T17:01:45 < Tectu> ReadError, what virtualization software is you using? 2016-07-25T17:02:17 < ReadError> Tectu i use vmware 2016-07-25T17:02:28 < Tectu> o/ 2016-07-25T17:02:51 < ReadError> hi 2016-07-25T17:03:11 < Tectu> nah, more like high-5 vmware-broh 2016-07-25T17:03:21 < Tectu> we have to stick together against those oracle faggots 2016-07-25T17:11:05 < Rob235> vmware needs to stop making shut down my vm before starting it 2016-07-25T17:11:11 < Rob235> making meL* 2016-07-25T17:11:18 < Rob235> ugh I cant type 2016-07-25T17:14:59 < Tectu> wut? what are you talking about? 2016-07-25T17:17:10 < Rob235> before starting up my vm I have to shut it down because start up is greyed out (even though it hasn't been run yet) 2016-07-25T17:17:17 < Rob235> then I can go to start up 2016-07-25T17:17:29 < Tectu> o.O 2016-07-25T17:17:48 < Rob235> even after a fresh restart of os x 2016-07-25T17:17:53 < Rob235> same thing every time 2016-07-25T17:18:24 < ReadError> huh 2016-07-25T17:20:05 < Tectu> you are doing it wrong 2016-07-25T17:20:09 < Tectu> never head of that 2016-07-25T17:21:07 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/IWDBt 2016-07-25T17:21:19 < Rob235> vmware is actually running right now so it should show that 2016-07-25T17:21:26 < Rob235> but it shows the same thing even before I first run it 2016-07-25T17:21:30 < Rob235> so i go to shut down 2016-07-25T17:21:33 < Rob235> then start up un greys out 2016-07-25T17:21:37 < Tectu> OS X, there's ur problem burh 2016-07-25T17:21:45 < Tectu> nah, just kidding. ask on the forum or something 2016-07-25T17:21:53 < Rob235> ehh doesn't bother me that much, just weird 2016-07-25T17:22:07 < Tectu> well, if you pay x 100$ for it it should bother you 2016-07-25T17:26:17 < Tectu> are you trying to be on-topic, Mr. crt ? 2016-07-25T17:26:56 < BrainDamage> that's what she said 2016-07-25T17:29:25 < Tectu> and how is Mr. BrainDamage today? 2016-07-25T17:30:53 < BrainDamage> in a pretty foul mood, i cannot wait to take my bike and do some reckless thing to get my mind off things 2016-07-25T17:32:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-07-25T17:32:38 < Tectu> take your bike and come over for a beer. 2016-07-25T17:34:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-104-155.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-25T17:38:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T17:44:10 < Laurenceb> trolls trollin trolls as usual 2016-07-25T17:44:26 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/a38SJoq.png 2016-07-25T17:44:33 < ReadError> coilcraft wid dat hookup 2016-07-25T17:44:36 < Laurenceb> well today I decided enough is enough and chucked my workstation, using an ipad now 2016-07-25T17:45:06 < ReadError> probably 200$ in inductors out oof pocket 2016-07-25T17:49:24 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-25T17:49:49 < Lux> ReadError: that 4k cam looks ok, at least the sensor is 8MP and not some 4MP upscaled to 8 or we 2016-07-25T17:49:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T17:50:13 < Lux> probably using some novatek chip too 2016-07-25T17:51:12 < Lux> eh v3s is allwinner iirc 2016-07-25T17:52:02 < Lux> so it can only do 1080p30 2016-07-25T17:52:45 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R41tuG5g8cc ew 2016-07-25T17:54:31 < Lux> looks like the lens is out of focus 2016-07-25T17:54:38 < Lux> but ya the quality sucks 2016-07-25T17:57:15 < ReadError> seems like everyones just putting '4k' in their stuff now 2016-07-25T18:02:23 < ReadError> http://www.banggood.com/X5-Panoramic-Sport-Action-Camera-DV-1440P-IMX179-WiFi-IR-RF-2_4G-Controller-p-1067661.html mildly interesting 2016-07-25T18:04:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-25T18:11:52 < Laurenceb> danggood 2016-07-25T18:11:59 < Laurenceb> who thought that was a good name] 2016-07-25T18:18:08 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/zAE7E0T.gifv 2016-07-25T18:18:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-25T18:27:51 < Rob235> hmm, should you run gpio_deinit() before setting up gpio's? if two different periphs use the same gpio then its going to fuck it up right? 2016-07-25T18:30:28 < Rob235> maybe do it in my system startup, probably isn't a big deal 2016-07-25T18:32:02 < Lux> imo that one is pretty nice: http://www.banggood.com/GitUp-Git2-2K-WiFi-Action-1440P-1_5-inches-LCD-Novatek-96660-Chipset-IMX206-16_0MP-Image-Sensor-p-1007770.html 2016-07-25T18:32:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-25T18:45:10 < Rob235> grrr 2016-07-25T18:45:24 < Rob235> when I enable my motor timers everything freezes 2016-07-25T18:51:08 < ReadError> without usb? 2016-07-25T18:51:25 < Rob235> who me? 2016-07-25T18:55:30 -!- stukdev [~quassel@212-124-160-145.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-25T18:55:59 < Rob235> well if it was I unplugged usb and powered by lipo and its working... 2016-07-25T18:56:05 < Rob235> why? 2016-07-25T18:57:01 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T18:57:08 < Rob235> does sending the signal with usb power cause the ESC to try and pull lots of power for the motor causing it to freeze? 2016-07-25T19:02:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T19:02:24 < Rob235> nevermind its still all fucked up 2016-07-25T19:02:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.86] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T19:14:12 < ReadError> Rob235 vcp blocking? 2016-07-25T19:14:23 < Rob235> dont know what that is 2016-07-25T19:15:37 < Rob235> it must be my timer settings because its only when the timer is enabled (well timers, there's 2) 2016-07-25T19:17:28 < Rob235> when I switch over to lipo power my serial output doesn't work... 2016-07-25T19:17:35 < Rob235> wtf is going on 2016-07-25T19:18:17 < Rob235> nothing seems to work on lipo 2016-07-25T19:18:22 < Rob235> but the board is lit up 2016-07-25T19:19:45 < Rob235> I unplug lipo, plug in usb and serial data starts flowing in 2016-07-25T19:31:13 < Rob235> any ideas? 2016-07-25T19:42:18 < kakimir> Sync: you there? 2016-07-25T19:42:58 < Rob235> so guess gnds arent connected correctly 2016-07-25T19:52:45 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Microchip-Technology/11AA010T-I-TT/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuVhdAcoizlRRY1TZuI8FqPaQ2MvIz2av4%3d 2016-07-25T19:52:56 < ReadError> wonder how much of a pain in the dick this would be to interface 2016-07-25T19:54:48 < Rob235> to power a stm32 device you just need to connect a 5v bec to the 5v and a gnd pin right? 2016-07-25T19:54:54 < Rob235> or is that not enough 2016-07-25T19:55:06 < ReadError> well depends on the board 2016-07-25T19:55:11 < Rob235> f4 discovery 2016-07-25T19:55:13 < ReadError> and ADC stuff 2016-07-25T19:55:31 < Steffanx> all the ANs they link seem to be timer based, not sure you want to that ReadError 2016-07-25T19:55:33 < ReadError> hm wait its all getting kncoked to 3.3 2016-07-25T19:55:40 < ReadError> ive been awake for 36hrs im mushy 2016-07-25T19:56:00 < ReadError> Steffanx ya, figure ill spring for the extra 2 pins 2016-07-25T19:58:11 < Rob235> do grounds for every component need to be connected to the stm32 AND the ubec gnd? 2016-07-25T19:58:22 < Rob235> im lost 2016-07-25T20:00:50 < ReadError> no as long as they are common 2016-07-25T20:01:33 < ReadError> can you attach the debugger after it crashes? 2016-07-25T20:02:18 < Rob235> doesnt running the debugger reset everything? I havent fully learned how to use it except adding breakpoints 2016-07-25T20:03:07 < Rob235> and is it ok to have power coming from usb and the lipo at the same time or could it fry it 2016-07-25T20:03:20 < ReadError> well theres some way to do it w/ a jlink apparently 2016-07-25T20:03:30 < Rob235> im too noob 2016-07-25T20:03:39 < ReadError> ya i never had to do it 2016-07-25T20:03:56 < ReadError> but, turn off GDB reflash? 2016-07-25T20:04:00 < ReadError> sometimes that fucks with tings 2016-07-25T20:04:09 < ReadError> had it take a loop almost 2x as long 2016-07-25T20:04:10 < Rob235> im going to disconnect the esc wires from the stm32 and see what happens 2016-07-25T20:04:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.17.86] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-07-25T20:05:04 < ReadError> is it possible its resetting when you plug in the lipo? 2016-07-25T20:05:20 < ReadError> you may try removing the 5v supply to the disco and powering it over usb 2016-07-25T20:05:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T20:05:44 < Rob235> what would that show 2016-07-25T20:06:13 < ReadError> if plugging/unplugging power is killing it 2016-07-25T20:06:27 < Rob235> i'll give it a shot 2016-07-25T20:08:07 < Rob235> yea it works that way 2016-07-25T20:08:48 < Rob235> stm32 getting power and transmitting serial data and escs are beeping waiting for arming 2016-07-25T20:09:33 < ReadError> uhh wait 2016-07-25T20:09:39 < ReadError> your ESCs shouldnt beep when not armed 2016-07-25T20:09:57 < ReadError> not the issue but its not right either 2016-07-25T20:11:18 < ReadError> $8,848.47 damn totalled up my mouse payments since 2014 2016-07-25T20:11:28 < ReadError> bunch of tiny pieces of notmuch 2016-07-25T20:18:28 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T20:20:20 < Rob235> the escs beep a certain way until you send a 1000 pulse and then they beep differently and then stop beeping when an actual speed is sent (1608-1868) 2016-07-25T20:20:29 < ReadError> yea i know 2016-07-25T20:20:39 < ReadError> but you shouldnt ever not be giving them valid pulses 2016-07-25T20:20:50 < Rob235> why? 2016-07-25T20:20:53 < Rob235> they arent armed 2016-07-25T20:21:11 < Rob235> I send the 1000 pulse during the 2 second arming state 2016-07-25T20:21:20 < Rob235> then set them to min (1068) 2016-07-25T20:21:40 < Rob235> otherwise timer is off and sending nothing 2016-07-25T20:21:41 < ReadError> i guess it would work 2016-07-25T20:21:50 < ReadError> but its not normal 2016-07-25T20:22:22 < Rob235> why does it matter, seems safer to have timers not running when motors shouldnt be 2016-07-25T20:22:45 < ReadError> seems safer to be giving them something thats valid 2016-07-25T20:23:20 < ReadError> most setups, power on @ 1000, arm at 1100 or so 2016-07-25T20:23:32 < Rob235> i see, i'll think about changing it 2016-07-25T20:23:41 < ReadError> so when you bring the throttle all the way down you have authority still 2016-07-25T20:23:49 < ReadError> and the motors wont stop 2016-07-25T20:24:56 < ReadError> also a ton of people have fucked themselves up 2016-07-25T20:24:58 < Rob235> well if armed state the motor pulse will never drop below 1068 2016-07-25T20:25:03 < ReadError> not spinning motors when armed 2016-07-25T20:25:17 < Rob235> so they will always be spinning until unarmed 2016-07-25T20:25:26 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-25T20:25:29 < ReadError> thats safer 2016-07-25T20:25:38 < ReadError> you cant accidently forget its armed 2016-07-25T20:25:46 < ReadError> bend down to plug something in, hit the stick 2016-07-25T20:25:52 < ReadError> gets messy w/ carbon props 2016-07-25T20:26:04 < Rob235> yea that cant happen with mine 2016-07-25T20:26:53 < Rob235> motors only stop spinning if dearmed and then to rearm you have to hold the joysticks correctly for 2 secs 2016-07-25T20:27:28 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-25T20:33:01 < Laurenceb> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/b/bf/Inchmurrin_yo_dawg.png 2016-07-25T20:33:57 < kakimir> Laurenceb: is soaring a thing in UK? 2016-07-25T20:34:01 < kakimir> or flying anything? 2016-07-25T20:34:09 < Laurenceb> maybe 2016-07-25T20:34:18 < Laurenceb> there seems to be a glider scene 2016-07-25T20:34:45 < kakimir> is there weather? 2016-07-25T20:34:58 < Laurenceb> lulyes 2016-07-25T20:35:00 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/bTEKjD.png 2016-07-25T20:36:17 < kakimir> school of lul 2016-07-25T20:39:53 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/89B5ek.jpg 2016-07-25T20:40:32 < kakimir> school of cool 2016-07-25T20:40:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:8a9:212f:4f65:8e48] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T20:42:01 < kakimir> technofuture is here 2016-07-25T20:54:14 < Rob235> is there a difference of powering a stm32f4 discovery through the usb port vs connecting 5v/gnd to the pins? 2016-07-25T20:55:05 < Laurenceb> https://medium.com/@infinitechan/hotwheels-a-postmortem-9ea800d9227b#.2xu8pl3g0 2016-07-25T20:55:27 < Laurenceb> In his shoes (if I ever wore any) I probably would have behaved similarly and I don’t expect him to accept my apology or even ever talk to me again. 2016-07-25T20:55:29 < Laurenceb> lulling 2016-07-25T20:58:03 < kakimir> Laurenceb: I don't understand the mess I'm reading 2016-07-25T20:58:11 < kakimir> also very long 2016-07-25T20:58:19 < Laurenceb> hotwheels ragequit 2016-07-25T20:58:31 < Laurenceb> after being scammed by Josh Moon 2016-07-25T20:58:44 < BrainDamage> you need to consult knowyourmeme for 50% of laurenceb's posts 2016-07-25T20:58:57 < kakimir> I don't feel like knowing 8chan scene would be imperial 2016-07-25T20:59:14 < kakimir> unless you run the shit 2016-07-25T20:59:36 < kakimir> be involved* 2016-07-25T21:03:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-25T21:03:19 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/gif/src/1413547394275.webm 2016-07-25T21:08:59 < kakimir> I see OC 2016-07-25T21:09:21 < BrainDamage> Tectu: http://imgur.com/a/yrGIO left side is switzerland 2016-07-25T21:09:24 < kakimir> you did that video Laurenceb ? 2016-07-25T21:09:43 < Laurenceb> no lol 2016-07-25T21:10:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T21:10:50 < Tectu> BrainDamage, very awesome picture! Where exactly is that? 2016-07-25T21:11:50 < ReadError> Tectu http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-IIC-I2C-0-91-128x32-white-OLED-LCD-Display-Module-3-3v-5v-For-Arduino/191859979904 2016-07-25T21:11:53 < ReadError> fount em 2016-07-25T21:12:31 < kakimir> cool display 2016-07-25T21:12:32 < Tectu> ReadError, u said < 0.9" 2016-07-25T21:12:41 < kakimir> ts100 iron has that? 2016-07-25T21:12:50 < Steffanx> no spi? 2016-07-25T21:12:53 < ReadError> Tectu basically http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-IIC-I2C-0-91-128x32-white-OLED-LCD-Display-Module-3-3v-5v-For-Arduino/191859979904? not that one 2016-07-25T21:12:59 < ReadError> err 2016-07-25T21:13:05 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-Y-0-96-I2C-IIC-128X64-OLED-LCD-LED-Display-Module-Board-SSD1306-For-Arduino-/191843657338 2016-07-25T21:13:19 < BrainDamage> Tectu: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.8205/9.0449 the * point marked pin umbrella 2016-07-25T21:13:20 < ReadError> Steffanx i imagine its there somewhere 2016-07-25T21:13:38 < ReadError> but cant find a pic of the back 2016-07-25T21:13:42 < Steffanx> oh, i have that last one in spi. 2016-07-25T21:13:47 < ReadError> ya 2016-07-25T21:13:57 < ReadError> same driver 2016-07-25T21:15:12 < Tectu> BrainDamage, why the fuck would it take your train almost 4 hours to Brig? It's like 100km, no? 2016-07-25T21:15:28 < Sync> kakimir: yes 2016-07-25T21:15:32 < BrainDamage> wut? 2016-07-25T21:20:01 < ReadError> Nintendo shares fell 17.7 percent after it confirmed the success of Pokémon Go would not necessarily translate into profits for the publisher. 2016-07-25T21:21:44 < Tectu> BrainDamage, what is unclear? 2016-07-25T21:21:51 < Tectu> ReadError, how can you even bother 2016-07-25T21:22:12 < ReadError> bother what 2016-07-25T21:22:24 < BrainDamage> it doesn't take 4h, but it'd take more like 2-3 2016-07-25T21:22:38 < BrainDamage> because there's no straight route, there's lakes and jagged state borders 2016-07-25T21:22:42 < kakimir> Sync: you build molds? 2016-07-25T21:22:50 < Sync> yes 2016-07-25T21:22:53 < BrainDamage> also it's more like 200km 2016-07-25T21:24:45 < kakimir> Sync: you use proper clener+sealer+releaser combo? 2016-07-25T21:25:08 < kakimir> without exception 2016-07-25T21:25:12 < kakimir> ? 2016-07-25T21:26:52 < Sync> yes 2016-07-25T21:27:01 < Sync> for critical parts, always 2016-07-25T21:27:05 < Tectu> BrainDamage, 3h45min is pretty much 4h-ish, no? 2016-07-25T21:27:14 < Sync> if I wax the molds I get a few parts out of them before I need to rewax 2016-07-25T21:30:04 < BrainDamage> Tectu: depends which track you take, there's a wedge inbetween, and lakes without bridges, all the main railroad tracks cross the countries vertically both here in italy and there in switzerland, if there were horizontal sections you could approximate a diagonal, but you have to either go as far as andermatt and then go back, or go as south as malpensa, then up towards domodossola and brig 2016-07-25T21:30:42 < Tectu> I see 2016-07-25T21:30:52 < Tectu> Thank you for the insights in track routing 2016-07-25T21:31:47 < BrainDamage> it actually takes like 2.5h from here to zurich because it's a straight vertical line 2016-07-25T21:32:03 < Tectu> interesting 2016-07-25T21:32:15 < BrainDamage> probably less now that they are opening the new st gotthard tunnel 2016-07-25T21:32:26 < Tectu> already have* 2016-07-25T21:32:41 < Tectu> lol, if shit goes well you as quickly in zurich as I am 2016-07-25T21:32:44 < Tectu> I have 2h 1min 2016-07-25T21:33:18 < Rob235> alright everything's working with lipo now, my stupid mistake. but motors aren't arming, always something... 2016-07-25T21:34:19 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-25T21:47:59 < Rob235> working now... 2016-07-25T21:49:44 < ReadError> put in in the air *cough* 2016-07-25T21:49:59 < Rob235> not working that well 2016-07-25T21:50:20 < Rob235> just froze 2016-07-25T21:50:27 < Rob235> at full throttle hah 2016-07-25T21:51:15 < Rob235> havent perfected my motor library yet, shouldnt take too long I hope, it isnt that long 2016-07-25T21:57:21 < kakimir> Sync: do you use wax wax or those liquid things that polymirize to surface? 2016-07-25T21:57:33 < kakimir> or both at once? 2016-07-25T22:01:36 < Rob235> weird, it's not my pid or motor mixer causing the freeze... 2016-07-25T22:01:39 < kakimir> and what release agent to use for mold creation from plastic motorcycle side panel without ruining the panel? 2016-07-25T22:01:43 < Rob235> nothing else really happens in the motor library 2016-07-25T22:10:49 < Rob235> ugh 2016-07-25T22:10:55 < Rob235> just shoot me now 2016-07-25T22:11:21 < kakimir> *pew pew* 2016-07-25T22:12:34 < Steffanx> Time for some fresh air Rob235 2016-07-25T22:13:42 < kakimir> air is so moist here that my door surface is dripping water 2016-07-25T22:13:52 < Rob235> looks like its not the motor library, something happens in armed state 2016-07-25T22:14:22 < Rob235> doesn't freeze until a few seconds into armed state (even with motor timer never enabled) 2016-07-25T22:14:32 < Rob235> spoke too soon 2016-07-25T22:14:34 < Rob235> just froze 2016-07-25T22:14:40 < Rob235> wtf man 2016-07-25T22:15:11 < Rob235> you right i need a break 2016-07-25T22:22:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T22:29:30 < ReadError> *DAB* 2016-07-25T22:29:40 < Rob235> I ran out :( 2016-07-25T22:40:21 < Rob235> took a hit and now I'm not so frustrated, back to work :) 2016-07-25T22:40:55 < Tectu> welcome to the world of R/C crap 2016-07-25T22:47:56 < englishman> getting stoned and repairing garbage chinese parts? 2016-07-25T22:48:24 < Laurenceb> grrr Qt 2016-07-25T22:48:28 < Laurenceb> ((quint16)readpacket[2])|((quint16)readpacket[3]<<8); 2016-07-25T22:48:33 < englishman> still havent switched to processing? 2016-07-25T22:48:39 < englishman> Rob235 made that gui in like 5 seconds 2016-07-25T22:48:43 < Laurenceb> they are 0xFF and 0x10 2016-07-25T22:48:53 < Laurenceb> but that line gives me 0xFFFF 2016-07-25T22:48:54 < Laurenceb> wtf 2016-07-25T22:49:36 < englishman> + 2016-07-25T22:51:47 < Steffanx> Can't have much to do with Qt mr Laurenceb. quint16 is just a typedef. 2016-07-25T22:51:55 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-07-25T22:51:57 < Laurenceb> weird 2016-07-25T22:52:30 < Rob235> Laurenceb: what are workin on? 2016-07-25T22:53:35 < Laurenceb> a GUI to display telemetry 2016-07-25T22:53:47 < Rob235> ahh cool, have any pics? 2016-07-25T22:53:51 < Rob235> or not there yet 2016-07-25T22:54:00 < Laurenceb> I did but too busy atm 2016-07-25T22:54:04 < Rob235> ok 2016-07-25T22:54:10 < Laurenceb> was supposed to be finished last week :( 2016-07-25T22:54:15 < Laurenceb> its a disaster 2016-07-25T22:56:01 < Laurenceb> well this makes 0 sense 2016-07-25T22:56:10 < Rob235> personal or pro project 2016-07-25T22:56:23 < Laurenceb> pro 2016-07-25T22:56:27 < Rob235> nice 2016-07-25T22:56:32 < Rob235> makes it tougher though 2016-07-25T22:56:35 < Laurenceb> I can step through at watch it making 0 sense 2016-07-25T22:56:58 < Rob235> what is the whole line? 2016-07-25T22:57:26 < Laurenceb> workingdatasample.channelmask=((quint16)readpacket[2])|((quint16)readpacket[3]<<8); 2016-07-25T22:57:36 < Laurenceb> those tow are 0x10 and 0xff 2016-07-25T22:57:40 < Laurenceb> it gives 0xffff 2016-07-25T22:57:51 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-25T22:58:41 < Sync> kakimir: I use pla and wax, for your sidepanels both will work 2016-07-25T22:58:44 < zyp> have you tried with some spaces? 2016-07-25T22:59:11 < Rob235> (quint16)(readpacket[3] << 8) | (quint16)(readpacket[2]) 2016-07-25T23:00:19 < Laurenceb> nothing in valgrind 2016-07-25T23:00:34 < karlp> heh, microchip sent me an email with lorem ipsum dolor text 2016-07-25T23:00:36 < Laurenceb> order shouldn't matter? 2016-07-25T23:00:47 < Rob235> no but i like that way better, try with those parenthesis though 2016-07-25T23:01:03 < Laurenceb> k 2016-07-25T23:01:50 < karlp> Laurenceb: don't you need to wrap the cast like ((quint16)readpacket[3])<<8 ? 2016-07-25T23:02:05 < karlp> so it gets cast properly before the shift? 2016-07-25T23:02:17 < Laurenceb> Rob235 version fails 2016-07-25T23:02:19 < Laurenceb> trying 2016-07-25T23:02:29 < Rob235> hmm, thats what I do and it seems to work 2016-07-25T23:02:37 < Rob235> but yea try casing it differently 2016-07-25T23:02:40 < Rob235> casting* 2016-07-25T23:03:22 < Laurenceb> (((quint16)readpacket[3])<<8)|(quint16)(readpacket[2]); 2016-07-25T23:03:27 < Laurenceb> fails 2016-07-25T23:03:39 < Laurenceb> wtf time for some debug printf 2016-07-25T23:03:42 < Rob235> you positive readpacket[2] and [3] are what you expect? 2016-07-25T23:03:45 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-25T23:04:37 < Rob235> because none of the ways could produce what you said, it seems as if both are 0xFF 2016-07-25T23:04:51 < Laurenceb> I know 2016-07-25T23:05:03 < zyp> what type is readpacket? 2016-07-25T23:05:13 < zyp> could be some sign extension bullshit 2016-07-25T23:05:14 < Rob235> I assumed uint8 2016-07-25T23:05:31 < zyp> assumptions is how bugs happen 2016-07-25T23:05:43 < Rob235> yup, lets see what he says 2016-07-25T23:06:42 < Rob235> and I'm hoping workingdatasample.channelmask is a quint16 2016-07-25T23:06:49 < Laurenceb> aha 2016-07-25T23:06:54 < Laurenceb> (quint16)readpacket[2] does weird shit 2016-07-25T23:07:12 < Laurenceb> (int)readpacket[2] seems to work.. with printf 2016-07-25T23:07:41 < Laurenceb> (quint16)0xFF seems to give me 0xFFFF 2016-07-25T23:07:54 < Laurenceb> at least it does when readpacket[2] is 0xFF 2016-07-25T23:08:02 < Laurenceb> Qt being too clever again 2016-07-25T23:09:45 < zyp> you didn't answer my question, what type is readpacket? 2016-07-25T23:10:37 < zyp> and you're doing a weird comparison 2016-07-25T23:10:43 < zyp> quint16 would be like unsigned short 2016-07-25T23:10:45 < zyp> not like int 2016-07-25T23:11:24 < Laurenceb> QByteArray readpacket; 2016-07-25T23:11:56 < zyp> oh, of course 2016-07-25T23:12:09 < zyp> QByteArray::operator[] returns a signed char 2016-07-25T23:12:23 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-07-25T23:12:32 < Laurenceb> I get it now 2016-07-25T23:12:36 < zyp> so it's negative, and therefore gets sign extended 2016-07-25T23:13:06 < Laurenceb> so do a double cast? 2016-07-25T23:13:30 < zyp> either that or mask it 2016-07-25T23:13:32 < zyp> & 0xff 2016-07-25T23:15:37 < zyp> explicit masking might be better for readability than the implicit masking you get from casting it to an uint8 2016-07-25T23:15:49 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-07-25T23:19:46 < Laurenceb> yeah that works 2016-07-25T23:20:09 < Laurenceb> timing is still insane 2016-07-25T23:21:14 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/nUTiuhV.png 2016-07-25T23:21:26 < Laurenceb> channel7 is "request" packets 2016-07-25T23:21:33 < kakimir> what is name for device that pulls test material piece apart? 2016-07-25T23:21:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:1520:16b9:74bf:d2ab] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T23:21:35 < Laurenceb> they arent evenly spaced for some reason 2016-07-25T23:21:43 < kakimir> slice of materia 2016-07-25T23:21:52 < kakimir> and gives out graph 2016-07-25T23:22:02 < Laurenceb> yet they have the correct overall timing 2016-07-25T23:22:02 < kakimir> some constants for material etc. 2016-07-25T23:22:21 < Laurenceb> so number of packets/time gives correct result over > ~5 seconds 2016-07-25T23:22:39 < zyp> kakimir, refractometer? 2016-07-25T23:22:41 < Laurenceb> don't know what this means :( cpu use isnt horrible 2016-07-25T23:22:50 < Laurenceb> so its something blocking? 2016-07-25T23:23:38 < kakimir> zyp: you butt some metal strip or so in it and it pulls it until it breaks 2016-07-25T23:23:59 < kakimir> and gives nice data of certain characteristics out 2016-07-25T23:25:10 < zyp> tensometer? 2016-07-25T23:26:03 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-25T23:26:07 < kakimir> thanks zyp 2016-07-25T23:26:35 < kakimir> I should have done the school for mechanics 2016-07-25T23:27:03 < kakimir> I prefered slack off 2016-07-25T23:28:28 < kakimir> I wonder if there is open programs for tensometer 2016-07-25T23:28:37 < kakimir> or if all pros just methlab it 2016-07-25T23:29:58 < kakimir> it just requires some screws driven thru gearbox and have counter for motor rotating and piece to have straing gauge connected to it 2016-07-25T23:30:14 < kakimir> drive it manually and capture data 2016-07-25T23:48:03 < kakimir> flys are hell 2016-07-25T23:49:35 < kakimir> they enjoy my skin like it was rottening carcass 2016-07-25T23:52:28 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-25T23:58:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.190.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-25T23:59:25 < zyp> maybe you should take a shower? --- Day changed Tue Jul 26 2016 2016-07-26T00:00:21 < kakimir> I did 2016-07-26T00:00:38 < kakimir> it's instasweat 2016-07-26T00:02:57 < Rob235> weird, I narrowed down my freeze to the bno055 update routine... gotta do some more testing but thats the last thing I thought was causing a problem 2016-07-26T00:04:41 < kakimir> how high does the laminate get during curing process? 2016-07-26T00:04:49 < kakimir> *high temp 2016-07-26T00:05:01 < BrainDamage> 420 blaze it 2016-07-26T00:06:00 < kakimir> my mind in slipping 2016-07-26T00:06:23 < kakimir> it wants to get high 2016-07-26T00:07:01 < kakimir> it let's out freudian slips more often than ever 2016-07-26T00:11:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-26T00:12:20 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@dhcp143.chs.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T00:13:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:1520:16b9:74bf:d2ab] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-26T00:29:05 < jadew> !funny 2016-07-26T00:29:48 < jadew> I meant that as a Laurenbot command, not as a comment on whatever was being discussed 2016-07-26T00:31:02 < jadew> btw, the kerbal space program video was hilareous 2016-07-26T00:31:43 < jadew> does it really do that in the game? 2016-07-26T00:32:11 < jadew> or is it fully done with some 3d animation software? 2016-07-26T00:38:16 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/xYhrbOr.jpg 2016-07-26T00:39:08 < englishman> jadew: pretty sure thats ingame 2016-07-26T00:40:05 < jadew> nice, I tried it once but didn't damage any buildings 2016-07-26T00:40:37 < jadew> didn't get the rocket to escape velocity either 2016-07-26T00:40:50 < englishman> did you try a long time ago? 2016-07-26T00:40:56 < englishman> i played some years ago but got nowhere 2016-07-26T00:40:59 < englishman> before there was nav and stuff 2016-07-26T00:41:03 < englishman> now it's much easier 2016-07-26T00:41:10 < jadew> I don't know, half a year ago 2016-07-26T00:41:13 < englishman> oh 2016-07-26T00:41:17 < englishman> wat. 2016-07-26T00:41:22 < jadew> I didn't know what most things do, nor how to control anything there 2016-07-26T00:41:34 < jadew> I found like... two keys that did something 2016-07-26T00:41:37 < englishman> theres a great tutorial 2016-07-26T00:41:45 < jadew> yeah, I didn't do the tutorial :P 2016-07-26T00:41:48 < englishman> right. 2016-07-26T00:41:50 < englishman> didnt rtfm 2016-07-26T00:43:43 < Lux> apparently they updated the physics recently and it got harder 2016-07-26T00:43:53 < Lux> a friend just blabbed about it 2016-07-26T00:50:08 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v9dpvi40vplaq.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T00:59:36 < Lux> https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2016/07/24/the-turkey-coup-through-the-eyes-of-its-plotters/ 2016-07-26T01:03:28 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-26T01:11:15 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@dhcp143.chs.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-26T01:18:24 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T01:32:11 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T01:36:29 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-26T01:37:04 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T01:38:36 < ReadError> hey dongs wtf BREAKING NEWS: Stabbing horror in Japan leaves at least 19 dead and 45 injured after knifeman attacks centre for disabled people 2016-07-26T01:39:21 -!- a_morale__ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-26T01:39:38 < zyp> yeah, it's top article on norwegian news sites too 2016-07-26T01:40:03 < ReadError> what compels people do to this shit 2016-07-26T01:40:09 < ReadError> and why is the frequency increasing? 2016-07-26T01:42:57 < zygron> ReadError: The End of Days!!! REPENT YOU SINNER! 2016-07-26T01:43:20 < zygron> oops wrong nickname 2016-07-26T01:43:23 -!- zygron is now known as mitrax 2016-07-26T01:43:33 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T01:44:11 < ReadError> When I die, fuck it I wanna go to hell 2016-07-26T01:44:11 < ReadError> Cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell 2016-07-26T01:44:11 < ReadError> It don't make sense, goin' to heaven wit' the goodie-goodies 2016-07-26T01:44:11 < ReadError> Dressed in white, I like black Tims and black hoodies 2016-07-26T01:44:11 < ReadError> God will probably have me on some real strict shit 2016-07-26T01:44:12 < ReadError> No sleepin' all day, no gettin my dick licked 2016-07-26T01:44:35 < ReadError> works for me 2016-07-26T01:47:07 < mitrax> more seriously, maybe it's the media hysteria each time something like that happens that inspires a new sicko every other day... like a feedback loop 2016-07-26T01:47:26 * mitrax shrugs 2016-07-26T01:48:15 < ReadError> eh yea but like, 15 years ago 2016-07-26T01:48:27 < ReadError> you didnt hear about all this happening so frequently 2016-07-26T01:50:19 < mitrax> yeah but 15 years ago there wasn't social network shit and news reports were sort of slower 2016-07-26T01:50:36 < ReadError> ok, lets say 5 years ago 2016-07-26T01:54:07 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T01:54:14 < mitrax> well it has to start somewhere, maybe we'll see more and more :p 2016-07-26T02:00:01 < englishman> lol those wacky japs 2016-07-26T02:00:20 < englishman> likely some reality show gone wrong 2016-07-26T02:03:22 < BrainDamage> assaulting a disabled people's center, the guy surely don't like challenges 2016-07-26T02:23:43 < ReadError> yea thats teh worst part 2016-07-26T02:54:20 < dongs> haha wat 2016-07-26T03:16:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T03:18:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T03:18:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-26T03:18:17 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-07-26T03:45:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:8a9:212f:4f65:8e48] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-26T03:48:13 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T03:48:29 < Laurenceb__> sup 2016-07-26T03:50:26 < ReadError> ReadError hjere 2016-07-26T03:50:30 < ReadError> awake counter = 48gr 2016-07-26T03:50:34 < ReadError> hr? 2016-07-26T03:50:39 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/nUTiuhV.png 2016-07-26T03:50:42 < Laurenceb__> raging here 2016-07-26T03:50:46 < Laurenceb__> too much jitter 2016-07-26T03:51:14 < ReadError> > clicked 2016-07-26T03:51:23 < ReadError> > disgusting lunix desktop 2016-07-26T03:51:26 < ReadError> > closed 2016-07-26T03:51:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T03:51:51 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-26T03:52:03 < Laurenceb__> channel 7 is supposed to be regular 2016-07-26T03:52:15 < Laurenceb__> I have no clue what wrong but its failing epically 2016-07-26T03:52:49 < ReadError> lol hows that even happen 2016-07-26T03:53:09 < Laurenceb__> I dunno, its just Qt timer stuff 2016-07-26T03:53:26 < Laurenceb__> over about 5 seconds the rate is correct, but over short time there is crazy jitter 2016-07-26T03:55:50 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-26T03:56:12 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ wish he could dance like RMS 2016-07-26T03:56:38 < ReadError> RMS should be a professional scuba diver the way he drowns in pussy 2016-07-26T03:57:03 < Laurenceb__> should have used F7 discovery for gui 2016-07-26T03:57:58 < ReadError> why not just grab some jabascrib shit 2016-07-26T03:58:04 < ReadError> and make a chrome extn 2016-07-26T03:58:14 < ReadError> or re-use all the graphing shit in one 2016-07-26T03:58:26 < ReadError> w/ d3 n shit 2016-07-26T03:58:28 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2016-07-26T03:58:32 < ReadError> u can make some pretty dope charts 2016-07-26T03:58:36 < Laurenceb__> yeah but I need serial port 2016-07-26T03:58:42 < ReadError> uhh yea? 2016-07-26T03:58:59 < Laurenceb__> maybe I could have a plug in thing for serial lol 2016-07-26T03:59:42 < ReadError> https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight-configurator 2016-07-26T03:59:44 < ReadError> bruv 2016-07-26T04:00:10 < Laurenceb__> impressive 2016-07-26T04:01:14 < Laurenceb__> maybe there is some config thing I need for Qt timers to prioritize them for low jitter 2016-07-26T04:01:22 < Laurenceb__> oh well more raging tomorrow 2016-07-26T04:01:24 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-07-26T04:06:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-26T04:07:20 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/nBPB3Gm.gif 2016-07-26T04:08:48 < ReadError> waiting on some god damn resistor arrays 2016-07-26T04:08:58 < ReadError> my korean was too fast 2016-07-26T04:09:04 < ReadError> and iw as too slow 2016-07-26T04:10:32 < ReadError> damn i was supposed to call CDI today] 2016-07-26T04:13:45 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/sqZHxrm.jpg 2016-07-26T04:13:57 < ReadError> i duno if i put them vertical if it would even work 2016-07-26T04:15:21 < ReadError> no 2016-07-26T04:25:09 < ReadError> panicdongics 2016-07-26T04:26:00 < ReadError> EXB28V 2016-07-26T04:26:14 < ReadError> 2.1 x 1.1mm 2016-07-26T04:28:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T04:30:02 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-07-26T04:31:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T04:48:53 < Rob235> I think I need to add delays or something.... if I run in debug with a couple breakpoints it works fine but if I don't it doesn't, everything is breaking today 2016-07-26T04:50:00 < Rob235> does that seem like a valid assumption? 2016-07-26T04:50:35 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184.175.46.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T05:28:15 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-26T05:32:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T05:44:16 < Rob235> ok so adding one delay fixed my problem, just gotta look at why the delay is needed 2016-07-26T05:58:56 < yan> if i don't have an ETM connected on the stm32l1, does anyone have any tips on debugging faults? i have some gdb scripts that inspect all of my RTOS queues. my fault handlers get the saved pc and lr, but those point to aux functions in the rtos, not what called them 2016-07-26T05:59:31 < dongs> err 2016-07-26T05:59:54 < dongs> does M0 even have ITM? 2016-07-26T06:00:09 < dongs> oh, L1 is M3 2016-07-26T06:00:09 < dongs> k 2016-07-26T06:01:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.84] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T06:05:07 < upgrdman> fucking IAR is such trash. entire GUI hangs while it doing something in the background. these fuckers must be doing everything in one thread. 2016-07-26T06:05:38 < dongs> LOL 2016-07-26T06:06:50 < upgrdman> quote? 2016-07-26T06:08:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-26T06:08:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Determine-practicality-design/ 2016-07-26T06:09:01 < dongs> wat 2016-07-26T06:13:06 < dongs> absolute trash 2016-07-26T06:13:40 < dongs> some dumb jap pcb cad 2016-07-26T06:18:52 < dongs> cuckstar is updated even less often than orcad 2016-07-26T06:18:59 < dongs> so its absolutely useles/ancient 2016-07-26T06:19:23 < yan> is there really no OSS options for using ETM/ETB? really don't want to buy trustudio just to trace some code 2016-07-26T06:20:28 < Rob235> I just found a bug in my i2c helper code. Can someone please take a look and let me know what I can replace that delay(50) with on line 32 to check for completion? My code doesn't work without that delay in there... http://pastebin.com/AMKNBt2a 2016-07-26T06:23:42 < dongs> capton tape is nonconductive right 2016-07-26T06:24:39 < dongs> lol altium is amazing 2016-07-26T06:24:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T06:24:48 < dongs> R2BRO is just angry cuz orcad cant do half the shit altium can 2016-07-26T06:25:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T06:28:33 < dongs> pebkac 2016-07-26T06:30:26 < dongs> or with altium 2016-07-26T06:31:48 < dongs> here's the deal 2016-07-26T06:31:49 < ReadMobl> PeterM: 2016-07-26T06:32:06 < ReadMobl> We produce single side board by aluminum core but not for 2 layers. 2016-07-26T06:32:06 < ReadMobl> Thank you 2016-07-26T06:32:07 < dongs> you send me your "failed" design, i will open it here, and verify "failure", and will report it and get it fixed. 2016-07-26T06:32:18 < dongs> if it works here 2016-07-26T06:32:26 < dongs> then your shit just sucks 2016-07-26T06:32:27 < dongs> the end 2016-07-26T06:33:03 < dongs> no, your designm 2016-07-26T06:33:31 < dongs> because I've never seen wahtever the fuck it is youre bitching about 2016-07-26T06:34:12 < dongs> i jsut deleted traces 2016-07-26T06:34:14 < dongs> nothing happened 2016-07-26T06:34:15 < dongs> nope 2016-07-26T06:34:16 < dongs> there isn't one 2016-07-26T06:34:36 < dongs> your AMD GPU must suck 2016-07-26T06:39:07 < dongs> is this your own install 2016-07-26T06:39:10 < dongs> or some shithead at work 2016-07-26T06:39:18 < dongs> i guess this is something to do wiht live highlight stuff 2016-07-26T06:39:29 < dongs> check prefs or reset prefs to default after saving current and see if it changes 2016-07-26T07:11:35 < Rob235> I just found a bug in my i2c helper code. Can someone please take a look and let me know what I can replace that delay(50) with on line 32 to check for completion? My code doesn't work without that delay in there... http://pastebin.com/AMKNBt2a 2016-07-26T07:11:53 < Rob235> and by just I mean however long ago I copied/pasted this from 2016-07-26T07:13:31 < Rob235> id rather not have to use a delay 2016-07-26T07:13:56 < englishman> crt> omg dave is so smart he uses pliers to undo nuts on BNC connectorz and reads IC names out! 2016-07-26T07:14:02 < englishman> so why arent you doing the same 2016-07-26T07:14:08 < englishman> and making your millions of dollarydoos 2016-07-26T07:18:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T07:25:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T07:29:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-26T07:30:48 < dongs> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nintendo-stock-price-drop-pokemon,32321.html 2016-07-26T07:32:30 < englishman> http://www.citynews.ca/2016/07/25/newmarket-woman-shot-pokemon-go-players-with-a-pellet-gun-police/ 2016-07-26T07:33:14 < LeelooMinai> Cannot get DMA SPI to work on stm32L432K. 2016-07-26T07:33:35 < LeelooMinai> Running Chibios on it and I get this weird behaviour: http://i.imgur.com/5g6Ke6d.png 2016-07-26T07:33:40 < dongs> works for ,e 2016-07-26T07:34:27 < dongs> what are we suppsed to see t here 2016-07-26T07:34:54 < LeelooMinai> I have peripherials view and double checked everything 10 times - DMA flags bytes sent, SPI is on and configured, no errors flagged, but the clock stops with one cycle like on that LA capture. 2016-07-26T07:35:17 < LeelooMinai> And the DMA interrupt is never called. 2016-07-26T07:37:16 < LeelooMinai> Kind of ran out of ideas. I even tried two dev boards and they behave the same. 2016-07-26T07:37:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-26T07:39:02 < LeelooMinai> First I thought maybe the pins are misconfigured, but I don't think so. So I guess the question is why the SPI does not output the clock, even though the DMA sends 2 bytes into SPIs DR register and DMA counter goes to zero. 2016-07-26T07:42:09 < dongs> are you disabling SPI after DMA is done 2016-07-26T07:43:40 < LeelooMinai> This is done by Chibios, but basically from what I see, no, because the DMA receive interrupt is never triggered, so the OS's thread stays suspended waiting. 2016-07-26T07:44:36 < LeelooMinai> I don't see any SPI misconfiguration: http://i.imgur.com/KuGKiZX.png 2016-07-26T07:44:40 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T07:45:00 < LeelooMinai> RX/TX DMA is enabled, SPI is enabled, etc. 2016-07-26T07:45:40 < LeelooMinai> So if it got the data from DMA in DR it should output it imo 2016-07-26T07:48:01 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-26T07:52:01 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Small-Circuit-Design-Bluetooth-Induction/ wut...... 2016-07-26T07:52:06 < dongs> 1. Small form factor - has to fit into a quarter or less sized circle 2016-07-26T07:52:52 < LeelooMinai> Well, what - I guess it may be possible:) 2016-07-26T07:53:14 < dongs> if he doesnt mind that its very very tall 2016-07-26T08:01:43 < LeelooMinai> Maybe he wants to compete with this: http://www.rowkin.com/ 2016-07-26T08:02:10 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-26T08:13:03 < Rob235> blah 2016-07-26T08:13:23 < Rob235> nothing works anymore :) 2016-07-26T08:14:37 < Rob235> tomorrow will be better... 2016-07-26T08:14:52 < Rob235> we can hope 2016-07-26T08:43:06 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T08:44:59 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-26T08:49:38 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-26T08:54:36 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T08:59:13 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T09:06:41 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T09:21:20 < dongs> upgrdman: https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Develop-FFT-stm-idiscovery-board/ job 4 u 2016-07-26T09:21:36 < upgrdman> lol 2016-07-26T09:21:52 < dongs> god damn some paki bid $39 2016-07-26T09:21:59 < dongs> like... 2016-07-26T09:22:03 < dongs> i'll doubleclick eclipse.exe 2016-07-26T09:22:04 < dongs> for $39.. 2016-07-26T09:22:04 < LeelooMinai> Ah, found it... I read AF numbers from the wrong port. 2016-07-26T09:22:06 < dongs> then go take a nap 2016-07-26T09:22:11 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T09:22:16 < dongs> LeelooMinai: that was going to be my suggestion but i didnt bother cuz chibicocks. 2016-07-26T09:22:16 < Thorn> isn't there a spectrogram demo for that discovery 2016-07-26T09:22:23 < dongs> "are you sure your AF was for correct SPI" 2016-07-26T09:22:41 < dongs> its possible to make that mistake in stdperiphlib 2016-07-26T09:22:50 < upgrdman> speaking of FFT, are there any tools that help to take code that uses math functions, and autoextracts LUTs to replace those functions? sounds kinda hard to do, but maybe its been done? 2016-07-26T09:22:52 < dongs> since there's no checking 2016-07-26T09:22:53 < LeelooMinai> I checked it few times, but kept looking at port B instead of A. 2016-07-26T09:23:29 < LeelooMinai> So, hmm, what's wrong with Chibios? I did some research and it looked most "lean and mean" to me. 2016-07-26T09:23:53 < Thorn> upgrdman: there was some game-oriented language that claimed to do that but it's not c/c++ compatible 2016-07-26T09:24:07 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-26T09:24:30 < dongs> err, you just loop stuff calling wahtever shit you wanna make a table of, and do it? 2016-07-26T09:24:34 < dongs> why should there be something special for it 2016-07-26T09:25:02 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T09:26:22 < dongs> one thing for sure 2016-07-26T09:26:28 < dongs> i'm definitely committed to chat 2016-07-26T09:26:31 < dongs> so i should just bid for that 2016-07-26T09:26:43 < dongs> "you guys just wanted to chat about f4-disco?? 2016-07-26T09:26:43 < LeelooMinai> I looked at FreeRTOS, because it seems to be most popular, but I did not like their trolling that it's free then hiding documentations in books for $30. 2016-07-26T09:27:12 < dongs> LeelooMinai: http://www.freertos.org/static_menu.html#API_reference 2016-07-26T09:27:17 < dongs> i know that was hard to find 2016-07-26T09:27:49 < upgrdman> dongs, well like if you do a loop like for(double d = 0; d < 1.0; d += 0.1) foo += sin(d); .... it'd be nice if some tool could make a double LUT[10], populate it, and use it instead of sin() 2016-07-26T09:27:52 < Thorn> the pdf manual is nice, it explains concepts 2016-07-26T09:28:42 < LeelooMinai> dongs: That's a reference - ok, it's there, but a user manual is pretty useful too. 2016-07-26T09:28:43 < dongs> Design of complete (a) Coding using KEIL (preferred) (b) Hardware Component Selection 2016-07-26T09:28:47 < dongs> sweet 2016-07-26T09:29:03 < dongs> Controller: Nuvoton NUC220 (preferred) 2016-07-26T09:29:03 < dongs> watr 2016-07-26T09:29:14 < Thorn> LeelooMinai: see pm 2016-07-26T09:29:44 < dongs> hrf cortex m0 2016-07-26T09:31:39 < LeelooMinai> Thorn: I see. Well, I am kind of commited to Chibios by now. It's not bad afaik - and has hal that has support for most STM32s and peripherals. It's much "lighter" than SM's HAL too. 2016-07-26T09:31:54 < LeelooMinai> ST's* 2016-07-26T09:32:20 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T09:33:11 < LeelooMinai> The RT part of it seems to be strong. 2016-07-26T09:34:36 < dongs> "hal" is the problem wiht it 2016-07-26T09:35:23 < LeelooMinai> I think it's designed to be usable without it, and vice versa 2016-07-26T09:37:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T09:49:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-217.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T10:11:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-26T10:18:16 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-26T10:23:59 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T10:41:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T10:50:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-26T10:50:41 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T10:54:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-26T11:00:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T11:53:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.78] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T11:54:42 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T11:59:42 < dekar> Does anyone of you use CMSIS-RTOS for abstraction? Is the API viable? 2016-07-26T12:07:47 -!- Cicero-MF [~Cicero-MF@188-39-114-2.static.enta.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T12:08:14 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T12:10:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-26T12:16:40 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T12:20:57 < mitrax> ReadError: new one! 2016-07-26T12:25:44 < Jak_o_Shadows> is there a recommended SD card library? 2016-07-26T12:25:53 < Jak_o_Shadows> There seems to be 2-3 around 2016-07-26T12:32:30 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v9dpvi40vplaq.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T12:38:45 < dongs> BREAKING: ISIS militants storm church in Normandy, France, taking priests, nuns and worshippers hostage; 1 hostage escaped and called the police; attackers noticed police about to storm in, managed to decapitate head of a priest before being shot dead 2016-07-26T12:39:00 < dongs> dekar: ive tried it 2016-07-26T12:39:01 < dongs> looked OK 2016-07-26T12:39:14 < dongs> made some threads and moved stuff between them 2016-07-26T12:39:37 < Steffanx> O6-ing much dongs :P 2016-07-26T12:39:46 < dongs> never 2016-07-26T12:39:57 < dongs> currently loading dicknplace 2016-07-26T12:40:18 < Steffanx> Total unrelevant news: o6-ing ;) 2016-07-26T12:40:28 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T12:40:48 < dongs> its kinda relevant when RELIGION OF PEACE takes over a CHURCH :) 2016-07-26T12:40:54 < Steffanx> Irrelevent 2016-07-26T12:40:57 < dongs> jk im a faggot, confirmed 2016-07-26T12:41:04 < Steffanx> Lol cant english. 2016-07-26T12:42:03 < Steffanx> Just like to tell you are o6-ing. First we had the blaxter-ratio, now we have o6-ing. 2016-07-26T12:42:36 < dongs> dont give him too much credit, he might demand royalties 2016-07-26T12:42:37 < dongs> for chats 2016-07-26T12:44:18 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-26T12:44:20 < Steffanx> Heh 2016-07-26T12:52:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:04:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-217.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-26T13:07:32 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-26T13:10:25 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:18:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:30:46 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:40:38 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:42:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:47:52 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T13:49:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T13:55:51 < dongs> http://x3.cdn03.imgwykop.pl/c3201142/comment_9MbGKqqoYaOD3oNnqpa063sHoUYb0jwq.jpg 2016-07-26T13:57:07 < Tectu> still better than eating grasshoppers. 2016-07-26T14:00:20 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-07-26T14:06:18 < dongs> wahts that reference to? 2016-07-26T14:08:36 < Tectu> reference to all the crappy food you japanese people eat 2016-07-26T14:08:39 < Tectu> "food" 2016-07-26T14:08:42 < Tectu> fucking insects man 2016-07-26T14:09:28 < Tectu> 2016-07-26T14:09:37 < dongs> silly faggot 2016-07-26T14:15:36 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:18:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-26T14:22:14 -!- hjdfasdf [4f01dd43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.1.221.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:23:22 -!- hjdfasdf [4f01dd43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.1.221.67] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-26T14:24:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-26T14:24:55 -!- qwedqwe [4f01dd43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.1.221.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:25:16 < qwedqwe> Hey guys, I have a problem with fatfs 2016-07-26T14:25:26 < dongs> its prety simple, whats the problem 2016-07-26T14:25:58 < qwedqwe> Basically I need to check if data is really written correctly to my usb stick. 2016-07-26T14:26:28 < qwedqwe> But if I check with f_read it checks just the cashe and not the real disk data 2016-07-26T14:26:50 < qwedqwe> *cache 2016-07-26T14:26:51 < dongs> fflush, remount? 2016-07-26T14:26:54 < dongs> why do you have cache 2016-07-26T14:27:14 < qwedqwe> fflush is for write, isn't it? 2016-07-26T14:28:01 < qyx> fflush probably isn't going to help you 2016-07-26T14:28:22 < qyx> does fatfs have a cache? 2016-07-26T14:28:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T14:28:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:28:32 < dongs> thats why im curious 2016-07-26T14:28:35 < dongs> i didnt think it had? 2016-07-26T14:28:42 < Tectu> never heard of that either. 2016-07-26T14:28:43 < qyx> I don't remember 2016-07-26T14:30:29 < qwedqwe> qyx: a strange thing happens: I do a f_mount, a f_open, a f_write, a f_sync, a f_read and everithing seems to work correctly. (part 2 is coming) 2016-07-26T14:31:58 < qwedqwe> Then, I remove the USB stick, and do a f_close, and f_open again and it seems to open the file! 2016-07-26T14:32:07 < qwedqwe> And f_read returns no errors 2016-07-26T14:32:18 < qwedqwe> Even without USB connected 2016-07-26T14:32:41 < jpa-> does your usb driver do caching? 2016-07-26T14:33:14 < qwedqwe> If after the f_close I remount the disk seems to update stuff and it gives me errors as expected 2016-07-26T14:33:45 < jpa-> though fatfs does cache one sector worth of data 2016-07-26T14:33:49 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T14:34:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:34:27 < qwedqwe> jpa-: exactly I guess it does cache one sector (512 bytes) 2016-07-26T14:35:47 < qwedqwe> But doing a f_mount every time is heavy I guess, just to invalidate the cashe 2016-07-26T14:36:11 < jpa-> i've hit the same problem before, let's see what i did.. 2016-07-26T14:36:15 < Steffanx> Jpa- is back :o 2016-07-26T14:36:45 < dongs> my pokemonbot is lv24.5 2016-07-26T14:38:45 < qwedqwe> jpa-: thanks! 2016-07-26T14:39:41 < jpa-> looks like i didn't find a reasonable way to do it without remounting.. one can mod fatfs source to flush the sector cache but there is no readymade function for it 2016-07-26T14:39:52 < dongs> thats so weird 2016-07-26T14:39:57 < dongs> jpa-: what about reading 0,0 first 2016-07-26T14:40:00 < dongs> then reading written data 2016-07-26T14:40:02 < dongs> kinda a waste 2016-07-26T14:40:10 < dongs> OR hve another temp file open 2016-07-26T14:40:14 < dongs> to do dummy reads 2016-07-26T14:40:50 < jpa-> https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/AlterBIOS/commit/8fb1b158891e926de552e92992cae2faf4c36c60 yeah, that's pretty much what i did 2016-07-26T14:41:19 < jpa-> move_window() is missing from the external api 2016-07-26T14:41:52 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-26T14:41:54 < dongs> whats move_window? 2016-07-26T14:41:57 < dongs> resets cache? 2016-07-26T14:42:10 < jpa-> yeah, it calls its cache a "window" 2016-07-26T14:43:04 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:44:20 < qwedqwe> jpa-: great! Sounds good to me, I'll have a try! Furthermore if I f_mount(NULL, "0:", 0); f_mount(&g_FatFs, "0:", 1); with USB connected I have no error, I then I disconnect USB I get an error as expected, if then after the previuos operations I connect back the USB and remaunt a get a crash. But this I guess is another problem I have to investigate more. 2016-07-26T14:44:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T14:44:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:45:20 < qwedqwe> For now I'm going to add your f_flush to invalidate cashe and force "real" physical reads. 2016-07-26T14:48:27 < dongs> qwedqwe: yewah sounds like your USB stack doesnt handle hot removal properly 2016-07-26T14:49:41 < qyx> does anyone use those things? https://www.adafruit.com/product/427 2016-07-26T14:49:56 < mitrax> yup 2016-07-26T14:49:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T14:50:08 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T14:50:30 < qyx> is it .. eh, usable? 2016-07-26T14:50:35 < dongs> qyx: i bought a bunch, completely useless 2016-07-26T14:50:36 < mitrax> qyx: yeah 2016-07-26T14:50:42 < dongs> way too small for anything 2016-07-26T14:51:08 < qyx> I bet it can accept few thousands of 0603 2016-07-26T14:51:28 < qyx> but for other common stuff, yeah, probably small 2016-07-26T14:51:40 < qyx> mitrax: rigid, durable? or china quality? 2016-07-26T14:52:26 < Tectu> I can recommend having a look at http://www.licefa.de/de/home/ 2016-07-26T14:52:30 < Tectu> that's where I get my storage shit from 2016-07-26T14:52:31 < mitrax> we got some in shenzhen a few years back, but quality was ok 2016-07-26T14:54:15 < dongs> qyx, chian quality. what exactly do you plan to store in them? 2016-07-26T14:54:56 < dongs> i b ought mine from delayextreme like 8 years ago lol 2016-07-26T14:56:16 < Tectu> time to try CrossWorks 2016-07-26T14:56:18 < Tectu> cu later folks o/ 2016-07-26T14:58:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-79-136-64-196.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-26T15:00:18 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T15:02:02 < qyx> dongs: smds for hand soldering 2016-07-26T15:02:27 < dongs> its too deep, and inside is too uneven for that 2016-07-26T15:02:40 < dongs> do you plan to just empty cut tape into the box? 2016-07-26T15:02:46 < qyx> yep 2016-07-26T15:02:52 < dongs> yeah, i dont think its very good for that 2016-07-26T15:02:53 < dongs> too deep 2016-07-26T15:03:03 < qyx> mhm 2016-07-26T15:03:42 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-26T15:10:04 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T15:10:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.249] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T15:24:59 < upgrdman__> if you want a compact collection of SMD shits, just get a regular binder, and some of those film negative "sheet protector" things... and stick your cut tape where the cut film negs would go 2016-07-26T15:25:23 < qyx> I have seen that, I don't like that idea 2016-07-26T15:26:20 < upgrdman__> ok, but y? 2016-07-26T15:26:20 < qyx> because i need to pull out the tape and individual smds each time 2016-07-26T15:26:28 < upgrdman__> o 2016-07-26T15:26:50 < upgrdman__> seems easier than unclip/recliping those adafruit boxes 2016-07-26T15:27:07 < upgrdman__> tweezers makes quick work of tape, but to each their own 2016-07-26T15:31:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-26T15:34:14 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T15:34:51 < upgrdman__> does win10 expose any way to give one program priority over another? like "nice" in linux 2016-07-26T15:35:22 -!- upgrdman__ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-26T15:38:30 < upgrdman> qyx, oh, maybe you could use something like a card/coin protective sleeve? that way you can empty your smd part into the sleeve, and just "pinch" the sleeve to allow access with tweezers? 2016-07-26T15:38:31 < mitrax> upgrdman__: sure, task manager, details tab, right click on the process and Set priority 2016-07-26T15:38:41 < upgrdman> ahh thanks 2016-07-26T15:49:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:5089:6b73:759f:dc20] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T15:55:01 < dongs> < upgrdman__> does win10 expose any way to give one program priority over another? like "nice" in linux 2016-07-26T15:55:07 < dongs> yeah been in taskmgr.exe since win2k 2016-07-26T15:55:13 < dongs> way 2 miss it for 16 years 2016-07-26T15:55:50 < upgrdman> :/ 2016-07-26T15:56:29 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-26T15:56:40 < mitrax> nt4.0 actually :p so 20 years 2016-07-26T15:56:47 < mitrax> might have been in 3.5 too 2016-07-26T15:58:26 < dongs> setmeh 2016-07-26T15:58:34 < dongs> msdn deleted the oldest supported API version 2016-07-26T15:58:42 < dongs> i think its SetPriorityClass 2016-07-26T15:58:45 < dongs> but lowest supported they list XP 2016-07-26T15:58:54 < dongs> but yeah, im sure its been in every NT 2016-07-26T15:58:56 < dongs> since release 2016-07-26T15:59:03 < dongs> since its basic kernel function 2016-07-26T16:00:56 < mitrax> yeah, 95 had it too 2016-07-26T16:01:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-26T16:05:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-26T16:08:22 < upgrdman> i didnt say "win10" because i thought it would be new. but because i wasnt sure if the way would be diff 2016-07-26T16:12:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:8420:aca0:8c8e:9b7a] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T16:22:22 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T16:22:26 < Tectu> upgrdman, ping 2016-07-26T16:22:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-26T16:28:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T16:31:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T16:38:34 < Rob235> gooooood morning 2016-07-26T16:41:00 < upgrdman> you been sucking on the e-cigs for toooooo long 2016-07-26T16:41:50 < Rob235> because I said something positive in this cynical channel? :) 2016-07-26T16:42:00 < upgrdman> yes 2016-07-26T16:42:44 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T16:42:56 < Rob235> I'm determined to make this drone my bitch today. all these problems will be fixed! 2016-07-26T16:43:02 < upgrdman> i wonder if anyone has died from squirting e-cig juice up their rectum in hopes of getting high quicker/stronger 2016-07-26T16:43:08 < englishman> got my vape box, some fresh 18650-INRs, a new trillby (NOT A FEDORA) and combed the shit out of my neckbeard, time to hit the gym! and watch the losers on the inside while eating hickory stix 2016-07-26T16:43:17 < BrainDamage> does it mean you'll strap a fleshlight on in and get itto fuck yourself? 2016-07-26T16:43:45 < Rob235> sure 2016-07-26T16:43:49 < Rob235> why not 2016-07-26T16:44:11 < BrainDamage> danger of propeller damage would put me off unless you encase them 2016-07-26T16:44:51 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-26T16:45:14 < upgrdman> isnt that what does bdsm cock harnesses are for... encasing 2016-07-26T16:46:13 < Rob235> I'm going to get dildo propellers so that if you get hit you are just getting slapped in the face with a cock 2016-07-26T16:46:56 < englishman> anyone up on their electrical codes 2016-07-26T16:47:01 < englishman> when is a conduit not a raceway? 2016-07-26T16:47:21 < Rob235> back to reality 2016-07-26T17:01:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.253] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T17:08:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T17:12:04 < Rob235> alright, so bno055 disabled, it isn't freezing so pretty sure my problem is I2C related with the bno, not waiting for a final handshake or something 2016-07-26T17:22:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T17:27:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.157.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-26T17:30:29 -!- Shavik_ is now known as Shavik 2016-07-26T17:31:40 < Laurenceb> sup 2016-07-26T17:31:44 < Laurenceb> lul I2C 2016-07-26T17:31:56 < Laurenceb> wow this channel is full of ##electronics weirdos 2016-07-26T17:36:29 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.62.85] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T17:36:46 * Laurenceb returns to raging at Qt 2016-07-26T17:36:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.62.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-26T17:38:18 < Rob235> I didn't realize the bno055 supported uart too, which is faster, i2c or uart? 2016-07-26T17:39:20 < Rob235> actually I'll keep i2c I think (as long as I can get it working) 2016-07-26T17:42:08 < Laurenceb> good luck with that 2016-07-26T17:42:18 < Laurenceb> prob more change of making Qt behave 2016-07-26T17:42:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-26T17:42:52 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T17:43:08 < Laurenceb> this might help you https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/i2c_int.c 2016-07-26T17:43:33 < Rob235> thanks i'll check it out 2016-07-26T17:43:49 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/lsm9ds1.c 2016-07-26T17:43:54 < Laurenceb> ^example useage 2016-07-26T17:44:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T17:44:50 < ReadError> Laurenceb see that new 6 axi invensense has ? 2016-07-26T17:45:00 < Laurenceb> no 2016-07-26T17:45:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-26T17:45:09 < ReadError> http://www.invensense.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/product-selector-guide_070716.pdf 2016-07-26T17:45:18 < ReadError> ICM-20600 2016-07-26T17:45:32 < ReadError> ICM-20602 2016-07-26T17:46:03 < Laurenceb> ooh a stable gyro finally 2016-07-26T17:46:21 < ReadError> skeet skeet 2016-07-26T17:46:27 < ReadError> no docs yet 2016-07-26T17:46:35 < Laurenceb> accel is still shit 2016-07-26T17:47:00 < ReadError> better than previous gens 2016-07-26T17:47:11 < Laurenceb> true but crap compared to competition 2016-07-26T17:48:34 < Sync> zro still sucks 2016-07-26T17:48:44 < Laurenceb> yeah, thats what counts 2016-07-26T17:49:00 < Sync> my russian fiber gyros are teh seks in that regard 2016-07-26T17:49:08 < Laurenceb> heh nice 2016-07-26T17:49:28 < Sync> I mean, they are better than the mpu6000 shits 2016-07-26T17:49:29 < Sync> but eh 2016-07-26T17:49:58 < Sync> the russian gyros have like .2°/h actual drift 2016-07-26T17:50:12 < Sync> and it is stable in one direction 2016-07-26T17:50:13 < Laurenceb> wow thats insane 2016-07-26T17:50:21 < Laurenceb> any link? 2016-07-26T17:51:04 < Laurenceb> grrr too much distraction lol, time to rage at Qt, pity I have no clue what I'm doing 2016-07-26T17:51:22 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/nUTiuhV.png 2016-07-26T17:51:27 < Laurenceb> channel 7... wtf 2016-07-26T17:51:36 < Laurenceb> supposed to be regular packet spacing 2016-07-26T17:51:48 < Sync> Laurenceb: fizoptika vg035 2016-07-26T17:51:58 < Sync> they actually overspec them :D 2016-07-26T17:52:16 < Rob235> Laurenceb: pic of gui yet? 2016-07-26T17:52:24 < Sync> http://fizoptika.com/product.php?id=15 dis shits 2016-07-26T17:52:36 < Laurenceb> wow nice 2016-07-26T17:52:38 < Sync> Rob235: you can compile it yourself, stuff is on github 2016-07-26T17:53:13 < Rob235> ehh sounds like its too early, link though? 2016-07-26T17:53:44 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui 2016-07-26T17:55:01 < Rob235> ahh I didnt realize it was for the horsie project 2016-07-26T17:55:53 < Sync> pfft 2016-07-26T17:55:58 < Sync> all the mems gyros suck hard 2016-07-26T17:56:05 < Laurenceb> not really 2016-07-26T17:56:14 < Laurenceb> they are very good now 2016-07-26T17:56:21 < Laurenceb> but compared to that fibre one... 2016-07-26T17:56:25 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T17:56:42 < Laurenceb> fibre one is good enough to fly with just three gyros :P 2016-07-26T17:56:57 < Tectu> can somebody tell me what magic has to be applied to change the PLL clock source from HSI to HSE in CubeMX? HSE is somehow disabled in that graph thingy 2016-07-26T17:57:46 < Tectu> screenshotty: http://screencast.com/t/jrRVu8lZ 2016-07-26T17:58:12 < Sync> Laurenceb: two theoretically, but yeah 2016-07-26T17:58:43 < Laurenceb> two? how? 2016-07-26T17:59:18 < Laurenceb> ok I have a cunning plan, printf system time at different points to csv and matlab it 2016-07-26T17:59:18 < Sync> pointing them in a 45° angle to the X plane 2016-07-26T17:59:25 < Laurenceb> I'm sure there is a more pro way... 2016-07-26T17:59:54 < Laurenceb> erm well with two gyros there will always be some axis around which rotation is undetermined 2016-07-26T18:00:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T18:01:12 < Sync> ADXRS290 looks nice 2016-07-26T18:01:30 < Laurenceb> the Melexis one was best last time I looked 2016-07-26T18:02:59 < Laurenceb> lul AD offset and sensitivity drift with temperature is horrific 2016-07-26T18:03:20 < Laurenceb> only advantage is low noise 2016-07-26T18:03:34 < Laurenceb> I guess you could combine multiple gyros with an optimal filter 2016-07-26T18:05:20 < Sync> yeah it is kinda strange 2016-07-26T18:06:22 < Sync> it doesn't tell how stable the offset is 2016-07-26T18:06:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-26T18:11:47 < Sync> STs offerings are a complete joke 2016-07-26T18:12:33 < Laurenceb> their newer gyros are pretty good 2016-07-26T18:13:01 < Laurenceb> lsm9ds1 is generally not too bad 2016-07-26T18:13:18 < Laurenceb> the datasheet lies about the temperature sensor, its ~1C/LSB and 8 bit 2016-07-26T18:13:32 < Laurenceb> but it also lies about the magno, it can run at 1ksps 2016-07-26T18:14:56 < Sync> > 30°/s offset 2016-07-26T18:15:01 < Sync> > generall not too bad 2016-07-26T18:15:49 < Sync> srs Laurenceb? 2016-07-26T18:17:25 < Laurenceb> who cares 2016-07-26T18:17:31 < Laurenceb> that can be calibrated out 2016-07-26T18:17:54 < Sync> not if it changes wildly with temperature 2016-07-26T18:18:15 < zyp> oven compensated gyro 2016-07-26T18:18:29 < dekar_> lol 2016-07-26T18:18:34 < Laurenceb> iirc it doesnt 2016-07-26T18:18:36 < Rob235> in stdPeriph does: I2C_AcknowledgeConfig(I2Cx, ENABLE); / I2C_AcknowledgeConfig(I2Cx, DISABLE); send the ack or nack? or does it just set if an ack is sent? 2016-07-26T18:18:44 < Laurenceb> you need to do some detective work 2016-07-26T18:18:59 < zyp> Rob235, who knows 2016-07-26T18:19:01 < Laurenceb> and grab the full gyro datasheet from another part 2016-07-26T18:19:16 < Laurenceb> but I'm too lazy to remeber 2016-07-26T18:19:18 < Rob235> blah, i2c is the last thing I want to be working on 2016-07-26T18:19:21 < Laurenceb> which one 2016-07-26T18:22:25 < Sync> Laurenceb: well, it is pretty academic after all, the application is pretty forgiving, but I don't want to kalman a lot 2016-07-26T18:23:53 < Laurenceb> I managed to work out the magno sensor they had used with some comparison work, and it had a high sps sampling mode which worked nicely (not in lsm9ds1 datasheet) 2016-07-26T18:24:02 < Laurenceb> so I found full gyro specs the same wya 2016-07-26T18:24:24 < Laurenceb> there are no original sensors in lsm9ds1 2016-07-26T18:24:43 < Laurenceb> also the magno sensor element itself is made by honeywell 2016-07-26T18:24:58 < Sync> wat 2016-07-26T18:25:02 < Laurenceb> so you can get a good idea of nonlinearity etc from honeywell specs 2016-07-26T18:25:41 < Laurenceb> honeywell signed agreement with ST about 5 years ago to ship their magnetic sensor dies for integration with ST parts 2016-07-26T18:26:34 < Laurenceb> originally honeywell also shipped their ASIC, but now ST have their own clone of honeywell ADC/ASIC, and its faster and lower noise 2016-07-26T18:26:58 < Sync> interesting 2016-07-26T18:27:13 < Sync> I should get one and etch it open 2016-07-26T18:27:42 < Laurenceb> aiui honeywell dont like high volume asic market and thought ST could give them better profits from smartphone market 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is getting delayed somewhere 2016-07-26T19:39:33 < Rob235> ahh its still running and responding to angles and gyro and radio input, today is a good day 2016-07-26T19:40:56 < Rob235> i'm surprised my i2c issue didn't cause more problems than it did 2016-07-26T19:42:32 < Laurenceb> looks like Qserialport issues 2016-07-26T19:43:24 < Laurenceb> http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/57633-QSerialPort-read-delay 2016-07-26T19:43:32 < Laurenceb> sounds like my issue :S 2016-07-26T19:43:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-26T19:45:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T19:56:28 < Rob235> oops I had usb and lipo powering the stm32f4 disco at the same time, I thought that would fry it but luckily not 2016-07-26T19:58:24 < Laurenceb> aha found the problem 2016-07-26T19:58:28 < Laurenceb> its QSerialPort 2016-07-26T19:59:12 < Laurenceb> there is an internal 512 byte buffer with weird internal timeout 2016-07-26T19:59:14 < Laurenceb> stupid 2016-07-26T20:00:47 < Laurenceb> so they realised their 512byte thing was epic fail and tried to haxor it with some timeouts 2016-07-26T20:00:49 < Laurenceb> doh 2016-07-26T20:02:14 < Lux> Rob235: there are diodes in the disco board to prevent that 2016-07-26T20:04:14 < Rob235> good to know 2016-07-26T20:04:56 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-188-116-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T20:07:13 < Lux> but check the schematic to be sure 2016-07-26T20:07:34 < Lux> dunno if 5v and 5v usb are connected 2016-07-26T20:08:05 < Laurenceb> but I still dont know how Tx works 2016-07-26T20:08:12 < Laurenceb> time for acoustic modem 2016-07-26T20:08:23 < Laurenceb> at least audio should be low latency 2016-07-26T20:08:35 < Laurenceb> or indicators on the screen and photodiodes 2016-07-26T20:09:17 < Lux> yep there is one 2016-07-26T20:14:12 < BrainDamage> offtopic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXB988kF3hI 2016-07-26T20:20:19 -!- 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< Laurenceb> well fuck this shit 2016-07-26T21:24:28 < Laurenceb> time to accept defeat 2016-07-26T21:24:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.121] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T21:24:32 < Laurenceb> I cant code guis 2016-07-26T21:25:16 < Laurenceb> and have unmitigated hatred for PC programming 2016-07-26T21:32:35 < Steffanx> Using QSerialPort has nothing to do with qui programming ;) 2016-07-26T21:33:40 < Steffanx> oh pc programming too. 2016-07-26T21:37:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T21:40:53 < Rob235> my leds went all flickery :( 2016-07-26T21:41:23 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-26T21:50:30 < Lux> now that the honeywell magnetometers are all obsolete... any ideas what a good supplement would be ? 2016-07-26T21:50:51 < Lux> looks like hmc5883 and 5983 are eol 2016-07-26T21:53:58 < Rob235> flicker fixed but colors still jitter once every second or two, maybe just a bad signal wire connection 2016-07-26T21:55:16 < ds2> what about the hmc5882? 2016-07-26T22:02:57 < Rob235> this doesnt matter but im curious. I have a capacitor attached to the beginning of my led strip, if the drone turns off will the cap stay charged or will the leds empty it immediately 2016-07-26T22:03:17 < Laurenceb> Lux: see scrollback 2016-07-26T22:06:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-26T22:18:27 -!- jon101267 [~jon1012@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:18:29 -!- jon101267 [~jon1012@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-26T22:18:51 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:19:51 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-26T22:29:29 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:32:53 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:33:32 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T22:33:52 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:34:13 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T22:34:30 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:42:18 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T22:42:34 < Lux> ah I misses that 2016-07-26T22:42:41 < Lux> any particular st part ? 2016-07-26T22:47:47 < Lux> Laurenceb: so the lis3mdl 2016-07-26T22:48:08 < Lux> that one has pretty poor performance over temperature 2016-07-26T22:49:41 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:52:32 < zyp> Rob235, that's a pretty dumb question 2016-07-26T22:52:48 < Rob235> thanks... 2016-07-26T22:54:05 < zyp> how long a cap will stay charged is a function of how big it is and how much current you're drawing 2016-07-26T22:54:28 < zyp> I assume current is neither 0 nor infinite, so it'll neither stay charged nor empty immediately 2016-07-26T22:56:51 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-26T22:57:08 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T22:57:42 < zyp> although I'm guessing it'll be high enough that it'll drain in a fraction of a section, so it depends on your definition of immediate 2016-07-26T22:57:54 < Rob235> ok so instantly was a poor choice of words. you wasted so much time explaining that. I'm just wondering if the ws2812b leds will draw current from a cap when the battery is disconnected or if they wont draw current and it would be 0. 2016-07-26T22:58:19 < Rob235> ok 2016-07-26T22:58:28 < zyp> well, the dumb part is how would the caps know that the battery is disconnected? 2016-07-26T23:00:30 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-26T23:01:19 < BrainDamage> Q=CV I=Q/t, so t=CV/I if you know the cap and the current the leds pull, you'll know the time it'll take for it to drain it empty 2016-07-26T23:01:37 < BrainDamage> altough inp practice they'll shut off much sooner, when the forward drop voltage is reached 2016-07-26T23:03:55 < BrainDamage> ( use vdd-vled to get a decently accurate time ) 2016-07-26T23:04:41 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T23:05:02 < Rob235> I wasn't sure if disconnecting battery would break the circuit and the electrons couldn't flow, I haven't learned the basics so yea im sure it was a stupid question but who cares? 2016-07-26T23:05:37 < BrainDamage> a capacitor is like a fast rechargable battery 2016-07-26T23:06:02 < Rob235> oh right, it does have a negative end, its not in series :) 2016-07-26T23:06:46 < BrainDamage> they are often put in parallel to the supply because of the speed, they act as charge reservoirs that get drained fast on peaks and get recharged slowly 2016-07-26T23:07:09 < BrainDamage> kinda like water towers on aqueducts 2016-07-26T23:07:18 < Rob235> yea I understand that bit, I was just thinking about arrangement incorrectly at the moment 2016-07-26T23:07:24 < zyp> or expansion tanks in pump systems 2016-07-26T23:09:34 < Rob235> alright, back to work, hopefully this second lipo is charged so I don't have to wait for the current one charging 2016-07-26T23:09:45 < Rob235> I need a power supply.... 2016-07-26T23:10:17 < Rob235> any fairly cheap recommendations? 2016-07-26T23:10:26 < zyp> what kind? 2016-07-26T23:11:48 < Rob235> not sure, never looked into them, like a desk power supply or whatever its called? can choose voltage and supply say 200+ amps not sure wattage 2016-07-26T23:12:00 < Steffanx> 200amps :D 2016-07-26T23:12:09 < BrainDamage> 200A is a truckload 2016-07-26T23:12:19 < zyp> if you're looking for a normal adjustable benchtop power supply, I'd suggest the tenma 72-10480 2016-07-26T23:12:42 < zyp> I picked up one last year, after dicking around with some chinese crap from ebay that didn't work properly 2016-07-26T23:12:55 < zyp> pretty nice for the price 2016-07-26T23:12:59 < Rob235> so they normally cant power a drone at full throttle? I was just trying to estimate what my drone uses and then some 2016-07-26T23:13:00 < Steffanx> i've one that looks like it, but is 5A. 2016-07-26T23:13:06 < zyp> Rob235, haha, no 2016-07-26T23:13:11 < Rob235> heh ok :) 2016-07-26T23:13:20 < zyp> if you want to power a drone, you better go with a pc psu 2016-07-26T23:13:28 < zyp> I once bought one for just that purpose 2016-07-26T23:13:30 < BrainDamage> typical bench psu is like 3A to 10A 2016-07-26T23:13:33 < zyp> yeah 2016-07-26T23:13:48 < Rob235> maybe pc psu is the way to go, and a bench psu for future projects 2016-07-26T23:14:06 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/a8bMt.JPG 2016-07-26T23:14:14 < mitrax> i've got a rebranded one that's 5A too 2016-07-26T23:14:27 < zyp> I think 12V rail on that can deliver something like 68A, and it weren't too expensive 2016-07-26T23:14:40 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-26T23:14:54 < mitrax> works nicely 2016-07-26T23:15:07 < mitrax> the only annoying thing is the fan that runs constantly 2016-07-26T23:15:17 < Ultrasauce> uh guys he's obviously asking for an arc welder 2016-07-26T23:15:34 < Rob235> alright well battery actually just finished charging anyway, i'll stick to my lipos for now, not much testing to do without flying anyway 2016-07-26T23:16:57 < Rob235> gotta balance half my props later too 2016-07-26T23:19:08 < Rob235> oh and I wanted to try adding a resistor on my ws2812 signal line... and solder all the wires because female jumper wires arent going to cut it 2016-07-26T23:19:14 < Rob235> list never ends 2016-07-26T23:20:36 < zyp> note that that PC PSU killed one of the controller boards for the quadrotor 2016-07-26T23:21:13 < zyp> some regulation bullshittery with a long cable and load switching on the far end 2016-07-26T23:21:34 < zyp> got a nice 30V spike that killed the buck regulator on my board 2016-07-26T23:21:46 < zyp> and leaked enough into the 3.3V rail to kill the stm32 as well 2016-07-26T23:22:23 < zyp> solved that by adding a bunch of capacitors to the cable, before the switch 2016-07-26T23:23:49 < englishman> zyp, you're up on electrical codes right 2016-07-26T23:24:26 < zyp> in what sense? 2016-07-26T23:24:42 < englishman> i have some wiring to do and i are confuse 2016-07-26T23:24:52 < englishman> there's only a couple types of cable that are 'rated' to go in a raceway 2016-07-26T23:25:02 < englishman> but i see stuff pulled thru pvc conduit all the time 2016-07-26T23:25:04 < englishman> what gives? 2016-07-26T23:25:37 < zyp> what's your jurisdiction? only codes I'm familiar with are norwegian ones 2016-07-26T23:25:57 < englishman> canada, but i kinda assumed stuff worldwide (especially frigid places) would be similar 2016-07-26T23:26:11 < englishman> in countries that dont start with P anyway 2016-07-26T23:26:13 < zyp> what do you mean by raceway? 2016-07-26T23:26:38 < englishman> well i was curious too, luckily theres definitions at the beginning of the electrical code 2016-07-26T23:26:52 < englishman> Raceway — any channel designed for holding wires, cables, or busbars, and, unless otherwise qualified in the 2016-07-26T23:26:52 < englishman> Rules of this Code, the term includes conduit (rigid and flexible, metal and non-metallic), electrical metallic and 2016-07-26T23:26:52 < englishman> non-metallic tubing, underfloor raceways, cellular floors, surface raceways, wireways, cable trays, busways, and 2016-07-26T23:26:52 < englishman> auxiliary gutters. 2016-07-26T23:28:08 < englishman> so i want to place some NMWU 6/3 outdoors 2016-07-26T23:28:21 < englishman> but its not in the 'conditions of use' for placement in a raceway 2016-07-26T23:28:37 < englishman> but, how are you supposed to get it out of a house, and into the ground, if not in a raceway 2016-07-26T23:28:42 < zyp> you mean conduit? 2016-07-26T23:28:46 < englishman> ie pvc conduit 2016-07-26T23:28:46 < englishman> yeah 2016-07-26T23:29:34 < zyp> I'm not sure what NMWU is, but if it's outdoor cable it's probably similar to what we here call PFSP/PFXP 2016-07-26T23:30:27 < englishman> direct burial, yeah 2016-07-26T23:30:30 < englishman> NMWU is rated similar 2016-07-26T23:31:02 < zyp> as far as I know, there's no restrictions here on what can be run through conduit, so to get it outdoor from the distribution board it'd normally be ran through conduit 2016-07-26T23:31:20 < zyp> but there's thermal considerations 2016-07-26T23:31:35 < englishman> well, i figured when used <1.5m height, ie where people are, conduit is 'mechanical protection' and not a 'raceway' 2016-07-26T23:31:52 < englishman> but then i looked up the section for pvc conduit, and the conduit itself requires mechanical protection.... 2016-07-26T23:32:08 < englishman> yeah, even in conduit im at ok ampacity for the temp rating 2016-07-26T23:32:42 < zyp> well, over here, conduit is only used inside the walls, so the wall itself would be mechanical protection for it 2016-07-26T23:32:43 < englishman> stuff i should call a pro for, but thats why im doing it myself, so i dont have to. 2016-07-26T23:32:53 < englishman> hmm 2016-07-26T23:32:59 < englishman> here the service entrance to the house is in pvc 2016-07-26T23:33:05 < englishman> as it's <1.5m at a point 2016-07-26T23:33:10 < englishman> (for the meter etc) 2016-07-26T23:33:51 < zyp> service entrances are also put inside the wall 2016-07-26T23:35:32 < englishman> hm 2016-07-26T23:36:45 < zyp> I guess when it's not, it might require mechanical protection, I remember we had metal shields that could be mounted over the cable for that purpose 2016-07-26T23:36:54 < zyp> but we didn't use that stuff very often 2016-07-26T23:39:21 < englishman> i think il go with my original plan 2016-07-26T23:39:37 < englishman> LB box and conduit for a short run, non-conduit mechanical protection after 2016-07-26T23:39:55 < englishman> as it's not like i'm running forklifts around my back porch 2016-07-26T23:41:21 < zyp> I just looked outside here, there's a PFSP buried between my house and a freestanding storage shed 2016-07-26T23:43:05 < zyp> cable comes out of the ground next to the concrete base for the house, runs unprotected for 10cm until it disappears into the wall 2016-07-26T23:43:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-188-116-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-26T23:44:01 < Lux> Laurenceb: what really sucks is st dropped the temp compensation 2016-07-26T23:44:53 < Lux> i just compared the lis3mdl to the hmc5893 and the performance is piss poor in comparison over temperature 2016-07-26T23:46:17 < englishman> i think that would be acceptable, i guess im not clear on the definition of mechanical protection --- Day changed Wed Jul 27 2016 2016-07-27T00:05:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-27T00:09:24 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-27T00:12:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-27T00:17:32 < kakimir> musictimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYDMj_sCFg 2016-07-27T00:17:45 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T00:20:36 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: all brit girls do E? 2016-07-27T00:21:08 < Laurenceb__> E ? 2016-07-27T00:21:22 < Laurenceb__> the drug? 2016-07-27T00:21:26 < kakimir> yes 2016-07-27T00:21:41 < ReadError> brit girls are pretty nasty 2016-07-27T00:22:03 < Laurenceb__> top trollin 2016-07-27T00:23:15 < kakimir> ReadError: your information is first hand? 2016-07-27T00:23:49 < ReadError> https://www.google.com/search?q=typical+british+slag&num=30&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X& 2016-07-27T00:28:21 < kakimir> hmm person of interest season5 availvable in my pirate streaming 2016-07-27T00:31:35 < englishman> hows the soaring, kaks 2016-07-27T00:31:40 < englishman> have you run out of money yet 2016-07-27T00:31:49 < kakimir> probably 2016-07-27T00:31:52 < kakimir> they bill later 2016-07-27T00:32:16 < kakimir> weather is shit 2016-07-27T00:32:21 < kakimir> there is no flying 2016-07-27T00:33:05 < kakimir> standing humid air 2016-07-27T00:35:46 < Laurenceb__> safe=off& 2016-07-27T00:35:49 < Laurenceb__> appropriate 2016-07-27T00:36:00 < kakimir> I think I buy joystick and pedals 2016-07-27T00:36:23 < Laurenceb__> http://www.realityravings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/four-girls.jpg 2016-07-27T00:36:25 < Laurenceb__> left is hawt 2016-07-27T00:36:45 < Laurenceb__> lul http://cdn2.spectator.co.uk/files/2013/09/SlutWalk-007.jpg 2016-07-27T00:36:51 < kakimir> I need to have goal and progress even when there is no weather or time/money 2016-07-27T00:37:44 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T00:38:31 < kakimir> like most of the time of year 2016-07-27T00:38:40 < Laurenceb__> goal and progress 2016-07-27T00:38:47 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-27T00:38:49 < Laurenceb__> I've got a goal, but making no progress lol 2016-07-27T00:39:07 < kakimir> you need to stop going to 8chan 2016-07-27T00:39:19 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-07-27T00:39:24 < kakimir> and burn all your anime stuff 2016-07-27T00:39:47 < Steffanx> Laurenceb__, will you learn or do i need to continue the negative reinforcement? 2016-07-27T00:40:01 < englishman> its on topic 2016-07-27T00:40:03 < englishman> those are all stm32 pros 2016-07-27T00:40:06 < englishman> one of them is clive1 2016-07-27T00:40:42 < Laurenceb__> heh clive1 2016-07-27T00:40:56 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: I'm not an anime fag 2016-07-27T00:41:05 < englishman> laurenceb& 2016-07-27T00:49:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:5089:6b73:759f:dc20] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-27T00:53:21 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T00:57:17 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-27T01:02:57 < Laurenceb__> well pyserial is working perfectly 2016-07-27T01:03:13 < Laurenceb__> no lag issues, or at least the lag is in milliseconds 2016-07-27T01:03:37 < kakimir> what is the thing you work on now Laurenceb__ ? 2016-07-27T01:03:53 < Laurenceb__> dunno 2016-07-27T01:04:07 < Laurenceb__> going to try to get out of the gui project, I cant handle it 2016-07-27T01:04:27 < Laurenceb__> will try to get elasticated harness/electrodes job instead 2016-07-27T01:05:21 < mitrax> pussy 2016-07-27T01:05:37 < kakimir> gui projects are for trainees 2016-07-27T01:06:54 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-07-27T01:08:48 < kakimir> 'not joking 2016-07-27T01:09:37 < kakimir> you need to get out of those projects 2016-07-27T01:11:21 < Rob235> how long would you expect a hex to run at min throttle sitting on the ground the whole time? 2016-07-27T01:11:33 < Rob235> 5800mah battery 2016-07-27T01:11:57 < Rob235> no props 2016-07-27T01:12:11 < Rob235> i know thats kind of a ridiculous question 2016-07-27T01:12:31 < Laurenceb__> depends on tons of shit 2016-07-27T01:12:46 < Laurenceb__> hitler shit fetish 2016-07-27T01:13:10 < mitrax> Kakimir®, provider of retarded assertions since 2016-07-27T01:13:27 < Laurenceb__> lul current year meme 2016-07-27T01:13:35 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T01:16:55 < Steffanx> Does explain why many UIs are so shitty kakimir 2016-07-27T01:17:01 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Tanned_German_terrorist.jpg 2016-07-27T01:17:54 < kakimir> Steffanx: it does 2016-07-27T01:19:47 < Ultrasauce> holy shit analog devices is buying linear 2016-07-27T01:20:47 < PeterM> RIP LT 2016-07-27T01:20:51 < englishman> lol 2016-07-27T01:20:59 < englishman> ad buying all the things 2016-07-27T01:21:31 < kakimir> one corporation future soon 2016-07-27T01:21:44 < kakimir> call it "communism" 2016-07-27T01:22:41 < PeterM> though, for the 14.8bn, AD could buy maybe one or two trays of LT parts... 2016-07-27T01:22:52 < englishman> lol 2016-07-27T01:23:14 < Laurenceb__> hmm hope they dont discontinue some of a nicer parts 2016-07-27T01:23:22 < Laurenceb__> LT has some cool stuff 2016-07-27T01:26:46 < LeelooMinai> The prices are less cool though 2016-07-27T01:27:39 < Laurenceb__> only if you are a poor person from ##electronics 2016-07-27T01:27:50 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-27T01:29:58 < Laurenceb__> I'm b& but theres nothing of value there anyway 2016-07-27T01:30:29 < LeelooMinai> Both poor and from #electronics - that's worse than being a serial killer. 2016-07-27T01:31:19 < Sync> holy fuck 2016-07-27T01:31:24 < Sync> adi is gonna mess with lt ): 2016-07-27T01:31:25 < Laurenceb__> theres a lot to be said for serial killing 2016-07-27T01:32:13 < Laurenceb__> seems to be latest craze in europe 2016-07-27T01:32:31 < englishman> but not uk 2016-07-27T01:32:33 < englishman> amirite 2016-07-27T01:32:44 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-07-27T01:33:19 < Laurenceb__> http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/000/929/ce9.png 2016-07-27T01:33:27 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T01:42:42 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@h-79-136-64-11.na.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-27T01:49:46 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T02:00:10 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28usp5fsmtkovlo.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T02:15:16 < Laurenceb__> kakimir needs to get laid 2016-07-27T02:19:01 < Laurenceb__> byebye Spacex http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/07/22/rumors-swirl-that-amber-heard-is-dating-elon-musk.html 2016-07-27T02:37:15 < Ultrasauce> jesus fucking christ laurence are we supposed to care about celebrity gossip 2016-07-27T03:07:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T03:19:45 < dongs> lulz 2016-07-27T03:19:50 < dongs> worthlessnews.jpg 2016-07-27T03:20:02 < ReadError> Lɪsᴛᴇɴ ᴅᴜᴅᴇ, I'ᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴍᴇᴍᴇs sɪɴᴄᴇ I ᴡᴀs 11, ɪʀᴏɴɪᴄᴀʟʟʏ ᴍᴇᴍᴇɪɴɢ sɪɴᴄᴇ I ᴡᴀs 17, ᴀɴᴅ ᴀɴᴛɪ-ɪʀᴏɴɪᴄᴀʟʟʏ ᴀɴᴛɪ-ᴍᴇᴍᴇɪɴɢ sɪɴᴄᴇ ɪ ᴡᴀs 20. Iᴠᴇ ᴄʟᴇᴀʀʟʏ ʙᴇᴇɴ ᴀʜᴇᴀᴅ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴇᴍᴇ 2016-07-27T03:20:02 < ReadError> ʀɪɴᴏ ᴍᴇᴛᴀᴄʜɪɴᴏ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴏᴅ 6 ʏᴇᴀʀs ɴᴏᴡ. Gᴇᴛ ᴀ ɢʀɪᴘ ᴜ ғᴜᴄᴋɪɴ ɴᴇʀᴅ 2016-07-27T03:20:12 < dongs> < ReadError> L?s??? ????, I'?? ???? ?????? ????s s???? I ??s 11, ?????????? ??????? s???? I ??s 17, ??? ????-?????????? ????-??????? s???? ? ??s 20. I?? ??????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? 2016-07-27T03:20:16 < dongs> good job stoner 2016-07-27T03:20:21 < ReadError> yea its some crazy font 2016-07-27T03:20:49 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/a4duLal.png 2016-07-27T03:20:52 < LeelooMinai> http://i.imgur.com/dAwm8t6.png 2016-07-27T03:21:09 < ReadError> any idea what its called? 2016-07-27T03:21:36 < dongs> looks like unicode garbage 2016-07-27T03:21:39 < LeelooMinai> No idea, but it may be made for people who only like ccaps:p 2016-07-27T03:23:11 < ReadError> hmm dongs 2016-07-27T03:23:19 < ReadError> best workflow to update all PCB footprints? 2016-07-27T03:23:26 < ReadError> I updated them in the pcblib 2016-07-27T03:23:34 < ReadError> but schematic lib still has the old shit cached i think 2016-07-27T03:23:59 < LeelooMinai> Select all component's and do tools/update from libs I think 2016-07-27T03:24:08 < LeelooMinai> components* 2016-07-27T03:24:09 < ReadError> did an update from pcb lib on both layers but its still showing both 2016-07-27T03:24:26 < ReadError> wasnt sure how altium references stuff internally 2016-07-27T03:24:29 < LeelooMinai> Maybe you did not recompile the lib? 2016-07-27T03:24:37 < ReadError> if it goes back to the schematic library or what 2016-07-27T03:33:49 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-27T03:34:02 < ReadError> ahh so you have to hit 'OK' instead of 'Update All Footprints (Create ECO)' 2016-07-27T03:38:19 < Rob235> alright, with everything enabled, nothing froze during the 4 hour test with LEDs on 50% power and min throttle (with occasional throttle push) without props until battery cells got to 3.5v (only used one lipo, will use 2 for flight) I know this result has nothing to do with flight time but just adding some info... Good to know everything handles the sysTick overflow fine as well (which happens at 71.58 minutes) even though real 2016-07-27T03:38:19 < Rob235> flight time will never reach that. 2016-07-27T03:49:50 < dongs> PayPal, 2016-07-27T03:49:51 < dongs> Dear user 2016-07-27T03:49:51 < dongs> We have noticed that some informations from your account seems invalid or inainaccurate , this is why we have limited and closed temporarily your account ! 2016-07-27T03:49:54 < dongs> You have to check and update your account informations just by using link below , After this you can benefits to our services again . 2016-07-27T03:50:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-27T03:50:06 < dongs> furiously clicking 2016-07-27T03:50:07 < dongs> totally legit 2016-07-27T03:50:55 < LeelooMinai> And the link is https://paipal.com 2016-07-27T03:51:04 < ReadError> hmmm 2016-07-27T03:51:14 < ReadError> 20% cost going from 12mil -> 8mil drills 2016-07-27T03:51:21 < ReadError> seem excessive or about right? 2016-07-27T03:52:45 < LeelooMinai> 8mil drills are pretty small. 2016-07-27T03:52:58 < LeelooMinai> Even oshpark has only 10 minimum on 4 layers 2016-07-27T03:53:04 < ReadError> ya, 10mil is 15% more 2016-07-27T03:53:07 < Rob235> so I'm adding timeout checks on all of my while loops, not really sure what to do if they fail though :P 2016-07-27T03:54:04 < LeelooMinai> Reboot the power grid in your area. 2016-07-27T03:59:40 < dongs> readcloner can't layout, so he goes to 8mil dills 2016-07-27T03:59:42 < dongs> drills 2016-07-27T04:00:37 < LeelooMinai> Well, 8mm drills would be needed if you had bga, say 0.5mm pitch, so you can fit vias between pads. 2016-07-27T04:01:09 < dongs> personal hobby use doesn't need 0.5mm pitch BGA 2016-07-27T04:01:31 < dongs> also, depends how shitty your routing is. I did a 0.8mm pitch BGA on 2L with all parts on single side last week. 2016-07-27T04:01:37 < LeelooMinai> I made one design with 0.4mm BGA, but I cheated a bit since it was a small package. 2016-07-27T04:02:32 < LeelooMinai> I also depopulated some balls. 2016-07-27T04:03:08 < ReadError> i dont need 8mil drils 2016-07-27T04:03:15 < LeelooMinai> For 0.8mm you already need sub 6mil traces 2016-07-27T04:03:23 < ReadError> Just asked him to see for future reference 2016-07-27T04:03:31 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T04:03:36 < ReadError> yea he does 4/4 already 2016-07-27T04:03:38 < LeelooMinai> And most crappy fabs cannot do less than 6 2016-07-27T04:08:03 < dongs> 'future reference' 2016-07-27T04:08:09 < dongs> future shitty cloning attempts 2016-07-27T04:08:25 < ReadError> yawn come up with some newer putdowns 2016-07-27T04:12:27 < ReadError> this is a shitposting free zone 2016-07-27T04:12:33 < ReadError> no putdowns allowed anymore 2016-07-27T04:14:35 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T04:23:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:a0c5:ea20:c167:21e1] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-27T04:31:37 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-27T04:37:57 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T04:41:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-27T05:09:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:192e:e7e3:d4f0:c2ce] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T05:09:55 < upgrdman_> anyone know how to get a like CAD drawing with measurements in altidongs? like so a case could be made that lines up with ports, etc. 2016-07-27T05:11:56 < zyp> upgrdman_, at my last job, designer guys were asking for step file exports for that purpose 2016-07-27T05:12:12 < upgrdman_> hmm 2016-07-27T05:12:59 < LeelooMinai> alti-what? 2016-07-27T05:13:32 < LeelooMinai> what on earth is an altidong... 2016-07-27T05:14:42 < LeelooMinai> upgrdman_: Did they not add some drawing features in 16? 2016-07-27T05:15:13 < upgrdman_> i dunno 2016-07-27T05:15:24 < upgrdman_> and im stuck in cn atm, so google is slow as fuck over a vpn 2016-07-27T05:15:33 < LeelooMinai> But myself I would export the step model and import into, say, Fusion 360 2016-07-27T05:16:06 < LeelooMinai> It's free for non-commercial use 2016-07-27T05:16:27 < LeelooMinai> And won't make you want to shoot yourself like free CAD software. 2016-07-27T05:17:58 < ReadError> upgrdman_ you can export a dxf 2016-07-27T05:18:00 < LeelooMinai> In theory I do, if it has good usuability. In practice such a thing does not exist. 2016-07-27T05:18:11 < ReadError> step is eww 2016-07-27T05:19:05 < LeelooMinai> If you want to make a case a step will probably do - you will just project lines, etc. from it when making the case. 2016-07-27T05:19:20 < ReadError> wouldnt dxf be a lot easier? 2016-07-27T05:19:26 < ReadError> step is pretty gross to work with 2016-07-27T05:19:41 < LeelooMinai> Is dxf even 3D? 2016-07-27T05:19:45 < ReadError> nope 2016-07-27T05:19:53 < ReadError> which is exactly which makes it easy to work with 2016-07-27T05:20:00 < LeelooMinai> If it's not 3D, what's the point... 2016-07-27T05:20:03 < ReadError> why its easy to work with* 2016-07-27T05:20:12 < ReadError> height is easy 2016-07-27T05:20:39 < LeelooMinai> lol, and all the connectors on side, etc. - I would rather have proper 3D model and project from it. 2016-07-27T05:20:49 < ReadError> yea export a side dxf 2016-07-27T05:21:15 < LeelooMinai> That does not seem to me as an easier method. 2016-07-27T05:21:39 < LeelooMinai> Instead of importing one object, exporting 2D cross-sections, etc. 2016-07-27T05:22:00 < LeelooMinai> Also, with 3D model you can actually see how it will fit in reality. 2016-07-27T05:23:39 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/uNfaxM79.html wtf did i fuckup on F4 ADC reads? 2016-07-27T05:23:53 < dongs> it works but values are random all over the place 2016-07-27T05:24:03 < dongs> like changing one cahnnel changes 4 others, and unrelatedly 2016-07-27T05:28:57 < upgrdman_> ya 2d would suck for this. imagine a side view to get heights, but different things are different heights, blocking each other. fuck that mess. 3d or gtfo 2016-07-27T05:29:25 < dongs> c< upgrdman_> anyone know how to get a like CAD drawing with measurements in altidongs? like so a case could be made that lines up with ports, etc. 2016-07-27T05:29:33 < dongs> upgrdman_: thats what draftsman shit is for 2016-07-27T05:29:51 < upgrdman_> ? 2016-07-27T05:30:22 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/DCED7Z6.png 2016-07-27T05:30:23 < dongs> like this 2016-07-27T05:30:43 < upgrdman_> ya 2016-07-27T05:30:49 < upgrdman_> can i do that in altischlongs?\ 2016-07-27T05:30:51 < dongs> right, thats new feature in altidumb 16 2016-07-27T05:30:51 < dongs> yes 2016-07-27T05:31:00 < upgrdman_> where plz 2016-07-27T05:31:17 < dongs> new draftsman document, then drop pcb model into it 2016-07-27T05:32:34 < dongs> time to fucking google the fuck is up wiht my adc 2016-07-27T05:34:52 < dongs> omg 2016-07-27T05:34:57 < dongs> so many exampels on google are now hal-only 2016-07-27T05:35:01 < dongs> the fuck 2016-07-27T05:36:08 < englishman> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/26/pokemon-go-players-fukushima-disaster-zone-nuclear 2016-07-27T05:36:25 < dongs> lool 2016-07-27T05:37:36 < dongs> retarded pokemongoloids 2016-07-27T05:37:55 < dongs> p.s. my pokebot is lv26 almost 2016-07-27T05:38:08 < englishman> whats apokebot 2016-07-27T05:38:16 < englishman> did you put it on a model train 2016-07-27T05:38:17 < dongs> my pokemon account that im botting 2016-07-27T05:38:21 < englishman> and have it go around a track 2016-07-27T05:38:23 < englishman> at <12km/h 2016-07-27T05:38:27 < dongs> nope, i dont evne have to do that 2016-07-27T05:38:35 < dongs> some app runs on my desktop in background 2016-07-27T05:38:41 < englishman> easy enough to sppof gps? 2016-07-27T05:38:44 < dongs> .NET trash 2016-07-27T05:38:47 < dongs> i dont need to spoof anything 2016-07-27T05:38:50 < dongs> it doesnt even run pokemon game 2016-07-27T05:39:04 < dongs> it just logs in for me and walks around and does whatever and collects shit 2016-07-27T05:39:21 < ReadError> chatch is using it 2016-07-27T05:41:43 < dongs> The game’s creator, Niantec, is closely linked to the CIA. Niantec CEO John Hanke created Keyhole in 2001 – which was later bought by Google. 2016-07-27T05:41:47 < dongs> Most of the money used to create Keyhole came from the National Geo-Spatial Intelligence Agency and the CIA. 2016-07-27T05:41:50 < dongs> holy shit lol 2016-07-27T05:41:56 < dongs> uninstalling pokemon: now 2016-07-27T05:42:11 < dongs> i mean, if I was paranoid and had something to hide, thats what I would do 2016-07-27T05:42:54 < ReadError> lol what 2016-07-27T05:42:59 < ReadError> sounds like some tin foil hat shit 2016-07-27T05:43:04 < dongs> fo sho 2016-07-27T05:43:18 < dongs> http://cyberworks.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/files/main.c 2016-07-27T05:43:21 < dongs> my code is identical 2016-07-27T05:43:23 < dongs> what the fuckkkkkkkkkkkk 2016-07-27T05:43:50 < dongs> except im using ADC1 2016-07-27T05:43:54 < dongs> but everything else is same 2016-07-27T05:43:56 < dongs> yet i get random trash 2016-07-27T05:44:33 < ReadError> why the fuck did windows install and/or update candy crush 2016-07-27T05:44:49 < dongs> its bundled with win10 now 2016-07-27T05:44:56 < dongs> since april update i think 2016-07-27T05:48:49 < dongs> oh 2016-07-27T05:48:51 < dongs> it works 2016-07-27T05:48:58 < dongs> lol, ADC REALLY doesn'y like floating channels 2016-07-27T05:48:58 < dongs> damn 2016-07-27T05:49:18 < dongs> until I fixed all 9 channels, totally random shit would read out 2016-07-27T05:49:21 < dongs> even if I had some populated 2016-07-27T05:49:55 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/4Kw1WKf.png crashplan must have some crazy compression/deduplication 2016-07-27T05:50:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-27T05:51:28 < dongs> lol @ unline backup 2016-07-27T05:51:30 < dongs> online 2016-07-27T05:51:45 < dongs> trust your data to some lulz where you can click wrong shit on amazon instance and wipe it all 2016-07-27T05:52:06 < ReadError> why would i only trust one place 2016-07-27T05:55:32 < dongs> oh damn 2016-07-27T05:55:42 < dongs> PA8 != ADCxx_IN8 :( 2016-07-27T05:57:26 < dongs> shitty goldwire time 2016-07-27T06:12:01 < dongs> k works 2016-07-27T06:27:59 < upgrdman_> DFT questions: if the samples are in volts, the real and imaginary components would be in volts, right? and power would be real^2 + imag^2, which would be in watts (assuming 1 ohm load), right? 2016-07-27T06:30:14 < englishman> ac power? 2016-07-27T06:30:24 < englishman> it would be (x+yj) volts 2016-07-27T06:30:46 < upgrdman_> dc. adc samples from an mcu 2016-07-27T06:32:08 < englishman> what's the problem you're trying to solve 2016-07-27T06:33:12 < upgrdman_> DFT of stm32 adc readings. so like sensor readings, or a microphone with vdd/2 bias, etc. 2016-07-27T06:33:46 < upgrdman_> just to make pretty pictures 2016-07-27T06:33:55 < upgrdman_> such wow, etc. 2016-07-27T06:48:40 < Thorn> adc will give you a real signal 2016-07-27T06:57:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T07:16:00 < LeelooMinai> Anyone knows how to get normal assembler listings instead of this rather unuseful one? http://i.imgur.com/iZ2jrks.png 2016-07-27T07:16:30 < LeelooMinai> I google, but nothing so far 2016-07-27T07:19:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-27T07:24:32 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-07-27T07:25:04 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T07:44:24 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T07:47:42 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-27T07:49:46 < englishman> dongs: this company closed their doors today without delivering https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/skully-ar-1-the-world-s-smartest-motorcycle-helmet#/ 2016-07-27T07:52:47 < englishman> 'our technology fundamentally enhances human capability' 2016-07-27T08:26:11 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T08:36:39 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T08:37:47 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-27T08:42:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-21.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T08:50:41 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T09:02:08 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-beb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T09:06:48 < dongs> faggots 2016-07-27T09:09:38 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-27T09:10:02 < upgrdman> that awkward moment when you see a PCB with a Cortex A5 ... and a PIC32 ... on the same board 2016-07-27T09:10:18 < upgrdman> and a Spartan 6 thrown in for good measure too (no kidding) 2016-07-27T09:19:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T09:19:26 < emeb_mac> lol 2016-07-27T09:19:37 < dongs> emeb_mac: sup, did you hear my blog 2016-07-27T09:19:53 < dongs> i got 9 ADCs going to F4, they were all going crazy until I properly connected all the inputs 2016-07-27T09:20:02 < dongs> even one was floating = random numbers on every cahnnel 2016-07-27T09:20:10 < emeb_mac> spi ADCs? 2016-07-27T09:20:16 < dongs> nope, F4 ADC 2016-07-27T09:20:25 < emeb_mac> ah - on-chip ADC inputs. 2016-07-27T09:20:31 < dongs> PA0..7 and PB1 or somethign 2016-07-27T09:20:31 < dongs> ya 2016-07-27T09:20:34 < dongs> so weird 2016-07-27T09:20:44 < dongs> i thoguht my code was trash 2016-07-27T09:20:50 < dongs> even tho it was basically 1:1 to examples/internet 2016-07-27T09:20:58 < emeb_mac> dongs: I've seen floating analog inputs do weird things. 2016-07-27T09:21:07 < ReadError> i had something similar happening when i was feeding the stm32 12v 2016-07-27T09:21:18 < dongs> like 4+ channels would change at once and kinda randomly cycle through the scan group 2016-07-27T09:21:21 < ReadError> everything on that port was fucky 2016-07-27T09:21:50 < emeb_mac> dongs: haven't seen floaters affect other channels though 2016-07-27T09:22:05 < dongs> definitely did here 2016-07-27T09:24:44 < englishman> dongs how many are you getting https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabidprototypes/neutrino-20-the-tiny-32-bit-arduino-zero-compatibl 2016-07-27T09:24:59 < englishman> arduino zero compatible. 2016-07-27T09:25:01 < dongs> thats $5 right 2016-07-27T09:26:25 < englishman> ie 1:1 cloned 2016-07-27T09:26:31 < dongs> microb "house part" 2016-07-27T09:26:34 < dongs> not even through-hole 2016-07-27T09:26:36 < dongs> fucking garbage 2016-07-27T09:26:48 < englishman> what do you want to hear? 2016-07-27T09:26:51 < dongs> ohhh eagle screenshots 2016-07-27T09:27:39 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T09:27:40 < ReadError> i love how eagle draws the traces to the middle of a hole 2016-07-27T09:28:01 < dongs> autocad will fix that 2016-07-27T09:29:03 < englishman> this is his 6th dickstarter 2016-07-27T09:46:55 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FTDI/FT4232HQ-TRAY/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtv%252bwxsgy%2fhiMKIrlJio50yPqbx80%2fKnh8%3d 2016-07-27T09:47:03 < ReadError> the hell is the point in a footprint like that 2016-07-27T09:48:14 < ReadError> package, w/e 2016-07-27T09:53:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-27T09:53:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-beb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-27T10:07:56 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T10:11:18 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-27T10:24:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.50] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T10:39:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:7c7a:5ff1:6d00:7f80] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T10:39:25 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-27T10:39:26 < ReadError> whens bash coming to windows 2016-07-27T10:39:26 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T10:39:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> bloody timers 2016-07-27T10:44:25 < Jak_o_Shadows> Literally been trying most of the day to get a timer working & toggling a pin 2016-07-27T10:47:49 < ReadError> https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/07/22/fun-with-the-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ 2016-07-27T10:47:53 < ReadError> noice 2016-07-27T10:48:24 < ReadError> apt-get wonder what repos they are using 2016-07-27T10:50:13 < Jak_o_Shadows> I am using gnu-arm-none-eabi & libopencm3 2016-07-27T10:50:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-27T10:50:26 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T10:51:35 < Jak_o_Shadows> Also, I just now got it working using an interrupt - now to get it working with an AF 2016-07-27T10:53:37 < dongs> wot 2016-07-27T10:53:57 < dongs> libopencm3 must be complete shit 2016-07-27T10:54:00 < dongs> if it takes a day to pwm a pin 2016-07-27T10:54:12 < Jak_o_Shadows> Or I have no idea what I'm doing :P 2016-07-27T10:56:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-21.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-27T10:56:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-27T10:58:25 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-27T10:59:24 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T11:01:29 < Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm. The timer w. interrupt is working on channel 2, but I can't see anything on channel 3, which is connected to PA2 2016-07-27T11:09:31 < jpa-> CCER correct? 2016-07-27T11:11:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> I think I must be misunderstanding how the alt function & timers work. 2016-07-27T11:11:11 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-27T11:11:12 < dongs> which processor is this 2016-07-27T11:11:12 < Jak_o_Shadows> F401RET6 2016-07-27T11:11:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> End goal is to get a timer to output a clock sequence somewhere in the range from 25->48 MHz. Trying to get TIM2_CH3 (PA2) to do it. 2016-07-27T11:11:35 < Jak_o_Shadows> probably not. Dunno what CCER is 2016-07-27T11:12:08 < dongs> TIM2 doesnt need BDTR stuff, so it should just work 2016-07-27T11:12:09 < ReadError> https://www.rt.com/usa/353411-dr-dre-handcuffed-gun/ 2016-07-27T11:12:12 < dongs> F401 is F4-style AF 2016-07-27T11:12:57 < dongs> there's a table in back of datasheet 2016-07-27T11:13:02 < dongs> port -> AF mapping. 2016-07-27T11:13:15 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yeah. Found that, and told libopencm3 to map the AF to that 2016-07-27T11:13:32 < Jak_o_Shadows> (which is a process which has worked for me with i2C & UART before) 2016-07-27T11:16:22 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T11:28:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:192e:e7e3:d4f0:c2ce] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-27T11:46:27 < dongs> Requirements: 2016-07-27T11:46:27 < dongs> - have a strong knowledge in building custom-made Arduino control devices or experiences in building similar control devices. 2016-07-27T11:46:31 < dongs> - willing to make necessary visits to our office. 2016-07-27T11:46:32 < dongs> budget: $2k usd 2016-07-27T11:47:42 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-27T11:48:46 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T12:03:22 < dongs> pokemon lv 26 2016-07-27T12:03:26 < dongs> 4 hours to next level 2016-07-27T12:08:05 < Jak_o_Shadows> Here's my pastebin - I know it uses libopencm3, but I think the thing is whether I'm missing a step in setting up AF for a pin with a timer, not syntax or values: https://gist.github.com/Jak-o-Shadows/2555bb968024ccf0f8bff0eef2a0b969 2016-07-27T12:08:38 < Steffanx> Rootes phone, gps spoofer, automated catch em all app.. Dongs? 2016-07-27T12:08:46 < Steffanx> Rooted* 2016-07-27T12:08:49 < dongs> nah just botting 2016-07-27T12:08:52 < dongs> dont even need phone 2016-07-27T12:08:57 < Steffanx> Lol 2016-07-27T12:08:59 < dongs> pokemon.exe running in a window on desktop 2016-07-27T12:09:21 < Steffanx> Where is the fun/useful part? 2016-07-27T12:09:37 < dongs> implying pokemon ever had useful part to begin with 2016-07-27T12:09:55 < dongs> did you know? the "game" part of pokemon is literally the ancient "toss the paper" shits that used to flood android appstore 2016-07-27T12:23:55 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUH_sjR_uIU 2016-07-27T12:23:56 < dongs> here u go 2016-07-27T12:24:28 < dongs> except actually more fun i think 2016-07-27T12:25:15 < dongs> io bet 2016-07-27T12:25:17 < dongs> *i 2016-07-27T12:25:23 < dongs> you look like a typical mac-using FAGGOT 2016-07-27T12:27:29 < dongs> S7 sucks, too heavy 2016-07-27T12:28:22 < dongs> not sure! im still on S6. if im upgrading it would be lighter/smaller 2016-07-27T12:28:31 < dongs> and nothing fits that dscription :) 2016-07-27T12:28:38 < dongs> S7 is liek 30grams more than S6 2016-07-27T12:28:41 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-27T12:30:06 < dongs> it probably does 2016-07-27T12:30:16 < dongs> 8 shits on main and there's probly more cores in other trash 2016-07-27T12:30:19 < dongs> aids. 2016-07-27T12:32:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T12:32:48 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-07-27T12:32:58 < dongs> the best part: they can't run them all at different speeds 2016-07-27T12:33:00 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-07-27T12:33:03 < dongs> but they're big.LITTEL shits or hwatever 2016-07-27T12:33:07 < dongs> so liek 4 runs at xxghz 2016-07-27T12:33:10 < dongs> the other 4 runs slower 2016-07-27T12:33:15 < dongs> and tehy switch around and shit 2016-07-27T12:33:25 < dongs> but cant turn off all stuff and just run on one core wehn doing nothing 2016-07-27T12:33:47 < dongs> cockdragon on the otherhand can do that 2016-07-27T12:34:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-27T12:43:12 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T12:48:36 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-27T12:48:52 < PeterM> crt, you dont eat many eggs do you? 2016-07-27T12:50:45 < PeterM> not in the slightest 2016-07-27T12:53:37 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28usp5fsmtkovlo.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-27T12:55:44 < mitrax> crt: hi sir 2016-07-27T12:55:47 < Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm. Either the timer channel is not working, or I have it mapped to the AF wrong. 2016-07-27T12:55:51 < jadew> http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Crimson+chin+did+you+enjoy+the+content+why+not+send+a_bcfc35_5220661.jpg 2016-07-27T12:56:06 < Jak_o_Shadows> Is there a way of seeing the timer channel status in any way? 2016-07-27T12:56:41 < mitrax> crt: who's R2? 2016-07-27T12:57:11 < Jak_o_Shadows> As a general thing, the timer counter is one register - the tier channels have special hardware that compare other registers against the timer and trigger something when equal 2016-07-27T12:58:16 < mitrax> oh R2COM? 2016-07-27T12:58:38 < dongs> Jak_o_Shadows: CCRx is the compare yeah 2016-07-27T12:58:46 < dongs> you configure output compare per channel 2016-07-27T12:58:54 < dongs> so CCR1 is TIMx_CH1 etc. 2016-07-27T12:59:39 < Jak_o_Shadows> and there's another register for the max value (period) of the timer - so the particular timer count goes back to zero 2016-07-27T12:59:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/Wifi-Fingerprint-scanner/ haha dream the fuck on 2016-07-27T13:00:49 < Steffanx> Time to get back to keil crt. You were much nicer when on keil :P 2016-07-27T13:01:34 < jadew> http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/A+moment+of+prayer_700484_5268853.jpg 2016-07-27T13:03:10 < Steffanx> Last week i discovered something i missed in my childhood: LEGO Education Innovation studio 2016-07-27T13:03:45 < Steffanx> For a professional career in LEGO. 2016-07-27T13:03:53 < Steffanx> (R) 2016-07-27T13:04:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> With running an interrupt off a timer - does looking at the flags of anything clear the timer count at all? 2016-07-27T13:04:34 < jadew> Steffanx, I didn't have LEGO 2016-07-27T13:04:51 < jadew> we had some plastic bricks that were much bigger 2016-07-27T13:05:04 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-07-27T13:06:52 < Steffanx> Fake lego jadew? 2016-07-27T13:06:59 < mitrax> monstablocks 2016-07-27T13:07:07 < jadew> Steffanx, I don't think they even tried to pass as legos 2016-07-27T13:07:20 < jadew> I'm looking for pictures now, but I don't know what they were called 2016-07-27T13:07:21 < mitrax> hmm no, that wasn't the name 2016-07-27T13:07:50 < Steffanx> How can you forget. 2016-07-27T13:08:08 < jadew> the colors sucked too, like in this car: http://www.tilica.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/raba-de-jucarie-din-vremea-lui-ceausescu-camion-de-jucarie-din-vremea-comunista-cele-mai-frumoase-jucarii-din-ani-90-raba-de-jucarie-veche-camion-de-jucarie-vechi-alex-si-iulica.jpg 2016-07-27T13:08:16 < jadew> and the plastic was roughly the same 2016-07-27T13:09:00 < mitrax> megabloks 2016-07-27T13:09:02 < jadew> Steffanx, don't know, I wasn't a big fan 2016-07-27T13:09:51 < jadew> I think my dad might have taken them away cuz I was building bridges and I was throwing AA batteries on them, pretending I'm bombing them from planes 2016-07-27T13:10:16 < jadew> I wonder what kind of crap they used to let me watch 2016-07-27T13:10:30 < jadew> haha crt 2016-07-27T13:10:43 < jadew> I used to have broken car engine parts too 2016-07-27T13:11:47 < jadew> mitrax, don't think they were megablocks, they might have been romanian made 2016-07-27T13:12:03 < jadew> keep in mind that this was during the comunist era, so not a lot of import stuff 2016-07-27T13:13:28 < mitrax> i played with lego until i was 7, then i got my first computer 2016-07-27T13:21:48 < mitrax> oh so that's where it comes from 2016-07-27T13:25:07 < mitrax> nvm... didn't know it was from south park 2016-07-27T13:25:38 < jadew> http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/4chan_5c9545_5503122.jpg 2016-07-27T13:27:53 < dongs> hmmmm 2016-07-27T13:27:55 < dongs> BQ24195RGER looks really nice 2016-07-27T13:27:58 < dongs> and looks like china has it 2016-07-27T13:29:54 < Jak_o_Shadows> The heck. TIM2_SR is 0x1F 2016-07-27T13:52:31 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yup. Always 0x1F That is odd, and a problem 2016-07-27T14:04:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@2001:470:28:537:7c7a:5ff1:6d00:7f80] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-27T14:22:38 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-27T14:57:23 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T15:08:11 < dongs> PeterM: that MPS 2617? or something lipo charger was dc/dc boost only, battery charge part was actually lineartrash 2016-07-27T15:08:19 < dongs> fukin aids 2016-07-27T15:10:12 < ReadError> androihttp://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT9480/DS9480-04.pdf this you cuck? 2016-07-27T15:10:23 < ReadError> http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT9480/DS9480-04.pdf this you cuck? 2016-07-27T15:10:42 < dongs> ? 2016-07-27T15:11:24 < dongs> One Linear Charger up to 1.2A 2016-07-27T15:12:08 < dongs> TORCH FUNCTION 2016-07-27T15:13:05 < ReadError> ya dawg 2016-07-27T15:13:15 < ReadError> has a nice enuff boost tho 2016-07-27T15:14:19 < dongs> you don't linearcharge 50Wh battery 2016-07-27T15:15:52 < PeterM> http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT9534/DS9534-00.pdf throw one of these at it 2016-07-27T15:16:08 < PeterM> sure its PARTSPARTSPARTS but 10A mang 2016-07-27T15:16:39 < PeterM> either that or TI BQ24600 2016-07-27T15:16:49 < dongs> < dongs> BQ24195RGER looks really nice 2016-07-27T15:16:51 < dongs> was looking at this 2016-07-27T15:17:05 < BrainDamage> maybe he wants a battery charger and a room heater 2016-07-27T15:18:02 < PeterM> on a 50Wh battery that is still gonna take like 2-3 hours 2016-07-27T15:18:10 < PeterM> the 24195 2016-07-27T15:18:13 < dongs> yeah, thats fine 2016-07-27T15:18:16 < dongs> thats better than 24h 2016-07-27T15:18:45 < PeterM> mhmm 2016-07-27T15:18:49 < PeterM> looks good 2016-07-27T15:18:52 < PeterM> do china have? 2016-07-27T15:18:56 < dongs> yes,, tons 2016-07-27T15:19:01 < dongs> thats one of hte main reasons 2016-07-27T15:19:24 < PeterM> ahh kk 2016-07-27T15:19:33 < PeterM> iirc china also have bq24600 2016-07-27T15:19:51 < PeterM> i use it for charging my mroe than one cell applications 2016-07-27T15:19:59 < dongs> ya this is 1S 2016-07-27T15:20:02 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T15:20:14 < dongs> and im gonna need like 3k of them 2016-07-27T15:20:24 < dongs> so i'd rather not have o9k external parts 2016-07-27T15:20:36 < dongs> 195 even has current sense internal 2016-07-27T15:20:37 < PeterM> http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT9534/DS9534-00.pdf 2016-07-27T15:20:49 < PeterM> actually, thats pretty nice 2016-07-27T15:20:54 < PeterM> the internal curent sense 2016-07-27T15:21:18 < PeterM> also, i didnt mean to link that one again, i meant to link http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT9451/DS9451-00.pdf 2016-07-27T15:22:09 < PeterM> probably 0 in china 2016-07-27T15:23:06 < dongs> theres a bit 2016-07-27T15:23:07 < dongs> but not a lot 2016-07-27T15:23:47 < PeterM> how mcuh in .cn $$ wise 2016-07-27T15:23:48 < dongs> 275kHz pwm wat 2016-07-27T15:24:08 < dongs> that richtek? not sure, cant check price till tomorow 2016-07-27T15:24:18 < PeterM> doesnt matter, is battery charger, not powersupply, can stick shitty inductor on that 2016-07-27T15:25:10 < PeterM> how much for tione from .cn? DK has richtek one at $0.92 @1500 2016-07-27T15:26:11 < dongs> wow cheap 2016-07-27T15:26:37 < dongs> ti is around 1.3x or so i think. again jus found today so duno price t ill tomrow 2016-07-27T15:26:42 < PeterM> ya 2016-07-27T15:27:07 < PeterM> but the ti one has more features 2016-07-27T15:27:32 < PeterM> this is just literal just charger 2016-07-27T15:28:11 < dongs> oh 2016-07-27T15:28:12 < dongs> wtf 2016-07-27T15:28:15 < dongs> BQ is 0.78$ 2016-07-27T15:28:40 < PeterM> owut 2016-07-27T15:28:42 < dongs> must be in every shitty china $3 20Ah powerbank 2016-07-27T15:28:49 < PeterM> noice 2016-07-27T15:34:04 < dongs> looks like it can charge up to 4.5A anyway 2016-07-27T15:34:13 < dongs> thq BQ 2016-07-27T15:34:17 < dongs> with max setting 2016-07-27T15:34:35 < dongs> and i already have a shitty mcu on board anyway so 2016-07-27T15:34:48 < PeterM> noice 2016-07-27T15:37:15 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq25895.pdf this is modern version but 2016-07-27T15:37:19 < dongs> china doesnt have most likely 2016-07-27T15:38:00 < dongs> ya none 2016-07-27T15:38:15 < dongs> also another shitty fucking QuickCharge clone 2016-07-27T15:38:57 < dongs> xioami uses it tho 2016-07-27T15:39:04 < dongs> in their battery pack shiz 2016-07-27T15:40:49 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-27T15:58:50 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axyoyyzhnexqceiq] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T16:00:09 < PeterM> oi dongs, did you end up putting those lipo in your quad 2016-07-27T16:00:46 < PeterM> or do you still ahve the jihad under your desk? 2016-07-27T16:02:10 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-27T16:11:53 < dongs> not yet, zero time 2016-07-27T16:12:01 < dongs> havent touched that BMS either 2016-07-27T16:12:09 < dongs> my pal also got ~similar quad 2016-07-27T16:22:34 < PeterM> he gonna get a nissan leaf batt too? lol 2016-07-27T16:24:02 < dongs> i got plenty of htem, so probly ya 2016-07-27T16:27:45 < dongs> http://www.mi.com/mibookair/ .. lol complete rip on apple 2016-07-27T16:28:49 < ReadError> same price too 2016-07-27T16:28:51 < ReadError> 2000$ 2016-07-27T16:28:54 < dongs> er? 2016-07-27T16:28:55 < dongs> no its $800 2016-07-27T16:28:59 < dongs> where thefuck do you see 800 2016-07-27T16:29:00 < ReadError> oh wait ya 2016-07-27T16:29:03 < dongs> er 2000 2016-07-27T16:30:20 < dongs> chinks put a 4K panel in that and I might be interested 2016-07-27T16:30:23 < dongs> at 1080p tehy can fuck right off 2016-07-27T16:40:56 < ReadError> they been making some nice stuff 2016-07-27T16:41:02 < ReadError> some of the tablets are nice 2016-07-27T16:41:19 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T16:52:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T17:00:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-27T17:23:43 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2016-07-27T17:30:52 < dongs> innovatin' 2016-07-27T17:31:31 < Laurenceb> fappin 2016-07-27T17:31:50 < Laurenceb> wish I was as rich as mechaduino 2016-07-27T17:33:33 < Laurenceb> $200 per line of code 2016-07-27T17:34:49 < dongs> pokemongo servers down 2016-07-27T17:34:52 < dongs> RIP 2016-07-27T17:35:06 < Laurenceb> dis is wacist http://hackaday.com/2016/07/27/robo-hobo-bamboozles-passers-by/ 2016-07-27T17:36:37 < Laurenceb> http://hackaday.com/2016/07/26/we-declare-the-grandmaster-of-pokemon-go-gps-cheats/ 2016-07-27T17:38:46 < Laurenceb> attn dongs https://www.youtube.com/user/VenusAngelic 2016-07-27T17:39:08 < dongs> no. 2016-07-27T17:39:17 < dongs> i know what that is, aint clickin 2016-07-27T17:39:23 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-27T17:42:03 < Laurenceb> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/LeafyIsHere 2016-07-27T17:45:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-27T17:58:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T18:00:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-27T18:06:23 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T18:07:09 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-27T18:08:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T18:08:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-27T18:09:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T18:09:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-27T18:11:24 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T18:19:45 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axyoyyzhnexqceiq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-07-27T18:22:02 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-27T18:22:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T18:23:05 < Rob235> whats up 2016-07-27T18:23:22 < Laurenceb> hol up 2016-07-27T18:23:25 < Laurenceb> I be sayin 2016-07-27T18:23:32 < Laurenceb> we wuz kangs n sheeet 2016-07-27T18:23:39 < Rob235> so as usual I break my drone before bed and spend all day fixing it 2016-07-27T18:23:41 < Rob235> and then break something else 2016-07-27T18:23:56 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-07-27T18:24:31 < Rob235> I tried adding timeout checks to all my while loops and nothing happened when I uploaded it so i dont think that was a good idea 2016-07-27T18:25:34 < Rob235> or at least not the way i did it :) 2016-07-27T18:31:46 < Rob235> I'm not really sure how far to go with error checking stuff. I added a whole new part to my bno055 library to try and detect problems and attempt to restart it. will this ever work in flight fast enough to be worth implementing it? 2016-07-27T18:32:17 < Laurenceb> top kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGOAfqtvnrk 2016-07-27T18:35:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-27T19:06:42 < Rob235> oops 2016-07-27T19:06:53 < Rob235> found bug 2016-07-27T19:06:58 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivwpkstlmxsnaffm] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T19:12:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T19:14:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-188-116-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T19:20:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T19:41:56 < Rob235> ok so my timeout checks seem to be fine if everything is working, gotta simulate a i2c fail or something... 2016-07-27T19:46:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-27T19:51:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T19:53:03 < Laurenceb> simulate 2016-07-27T19:53:10 < Laurenceb> i2c is fail by default 2016-07-27T19:53:43 < Rob235> what is so bad about i2c 2016-07-27T19:54:04 < Laurenceb> stateful and hateful 2016-07-27T20:01:33 < aandrew> heh 2016-07-27T20:01:38 < aandrew> that's a very good way to describe I2C actually 2016-07-27T20:07:42 < Rob235> I dont feel like switching it over to uart which is the only other mode it supports 2016-07-27T20:08:22 < Rob235> seems to be working fine for now 2016-07-27T20:14:42 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-07-27T20:15:01 < ReadError> heh wait wat 2016-07-27T20:15:12 < ReadError> what uses uart that would use i2c ? sensor wise 2016-07-27T20:15:34 < Rob235> bno055 supports either mode 2016-07-27T20:25:43 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T20:34:16 < aandrew> interesting, I'd never heard of that before 2016-07-27T20:37:09 < Rob235> I started with a mpu9250 so i2c was my starting point, then I switched to the bno and kept with it, also I dont know if I have any usarts to spare (not to mention I didn't realize how hated i2c was) 2016-07-27T20:37:39 < Rob235> but everything is working great right now so I'm happy 2016-07-27T20:37:39 < ReadError> uart sounds horrible tho heh 2016-07-27T20:37:54 < Rob235> yea I thought it sounded like a worse idea too but what do I know... 2016-07-27T20:38:09 < ReadError> pretty sure everyone said to use spi also ;p 2016-07-27T20:38:18 < Rob235> doesn't support spi 2016-07-27T20:39:19 < Rob235> I dont think I have anything using spi, not sure ive ever used it 2016-07-27T20:39:28 < aandrew> depends on what you're after 2016-07-27T20:39:32 < aandrew> if you need speed, use spi 2016-07-27T20:39:44 < aandrew> othewise use I2C, and if you can't for some reason, use UART. 2016-07-27T20:39:53 < Rob235> ok 2016-07-27T20:40:05 < aandrew> that's my opinion though, so don't take that as law 2016-07-27T20:40:14 < aandrew> I just prefer "real" protocols where there are defined boundaries 2016-07-27T20:40:24 < aandrew> UART is kind of a shitshow because it's just this streaming interface 2016-07-27T20:40:30 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-27T20:40:35 < Emil> aandrew: and you say spi is any different? 2016-07-27T20:40:36 < Emil> Nah 2016-07-27T20:40:36 < Emil> man 2016-07-27T20:40:38 < Emil> It aint 2016-07-27T20:40:42 < aandrew> howso 2016-07-27T20:40:47 < Emil> Only i2c has "protocol" to it 2016-07-27T20:41:12 < aandrew> oh I see 2016-07-27T20:41:16 < aandrew> yeah I kind of get your point there 2016-07-27T20:41:27 < aandrew> I2C is slow and prone to bugs though compared to SPI 2016-07-27T20:41:50 < Emil> eh? 2016-07-27T20:41:57 < aandrew> once you start putting a few I2C devices on a bus you often wind up with issues because one of them isn't quite on-spec or has some bullshit bug to workaround 2016-07-27T20:42:34 < aandrew> one particuarly egregious one was an I2C switch (I think it's been a few years) which you had to manually create 8 clock pulses before it would come up out of power-on correctly 2016-07-27T20:42:39 < aandrew> that was a pain in the ass 2016-07-27T20:42:40 < Emil> SPI is UART with clock / UART is SPI without clock 2016-07-27T20:42:48 < Emil> Nothing else to it 2016-07-27T20:42:50 < aandrew> not really 2016-07-27T20:42:53 < Emil> Yes really 2016-07-27T20:42:56 < aandrew> lol 2016-07-27T20:43:13 < aandrew> no, UART is asynchronous (tx and rx are completely decoupled) whereas SPI is not 2016-07-27T20:43:22 < Emil> ... 2016-07-27T20:43:26 < Emil> Are you silly or what? 2016-07-27T20:43:26 < Laurenceb> talking of which 2016-07-27T20:43:36 < aandrew> not at all 2016-07-27T20:43:39 * Laurenceb summons up courage to get back to swearing at Qt 2016-07-27T20:43:50 < Rob235> do it Laurenceb, you'll get there 2016-07-27T20:43:52 < Emil> aandrew: yes you are 2016-07-27T20:44:00 < aandrew> with SPI your TX and RX are in sync with each other at all times. With UART your TX and RX often are, but there is no requirement 2016-07-27T20:44:05 < Emil> UART and SPI are nothing more than byte stream devices 2016-07-27T20:44:59 < Rob235> I gotta try adding a resistor to my ws2812b data line to see if it will fix this random flickering, something like a 220 should be good? 2016-07-27T20:45:01 < aandrew> agreed, but the difference between SPI and UART are more than a clock line 2016-07-27T20:45:16 < Laurenceb> https://ibin.co/2pWb17j8DhRe.png 2016-07-27T20:45:24 < Laurenceb> bottom = outgoing 2016-07-27T20:45:38 < Laurenceb> it works perfectly for a few seconds, then becomes intermittent 2016-07-27T20:45:40 < Laurenceb> v odd 2016-07-27T20:45:42 < Emil> aandrew: No, it isn't. 2016-07-27T20:46:22 < Emil> The only difference is that there is a clock to which one sends or receives data 2016-07-27T20:46:37 < aandrew> again, no 2016-07-27T20:46:49 < aandrew> there is no requirement that a UART RX be synchronous with a UART TX 2016-07-27T20:47:09 < Emil> That's the whole thing about having a clock... 2016-07-27T20:47:13 < aandrew> no 2016-07-27T20:47:17 < aandrew> I'm not talking in relation to *a clock* 2016-07-27T20:47:22 < aandrew> I'm talking in relation to each other 2016-07-27T20:48:05 < aandrew> the clock gen for uart tx has nothing to do with the clock recovery/sampling on rx 2016-07-27T20:48:26 < aandrew> the tx and rx clock aren't necessarily the same 2016-07-27T20:48:30 < Emil> There is no such thing to SPI either. It is just a way to transfer data. You can obviously build additional layers on top of it, as you can with UART but there is nothing saying that on SPI you can only send data if host sends data or that you need to send data first thing with clock 2016-07-27T20:49:12 < aandrew> your bit times (setup/hold) are the same on SPI, your bit "slot" is always there, whether you take it or not is up to you 2016-07-27T20:49:14 < Emil> You can wait 3 clocks and then send data, or you can wait 100 clocks 2016-07-27T20:49:27 < aandrew> yes 2016-07-27T20:49:34 < Emil> aandrew: it seems to me you only want to argue for the sake of not wanting to admit being in the wronfg 2016-07-27T20:49:40 < aandrew> not at all 2016-07-27T20:49:42 < aandrew> I'm not wrong 2016-07-27T20:49:43 < Emil> Yeah, sure 2016-07-27T20:49:44 < Emil> lol 2016-07-27T20:50:47 < aandrew> with SPI, your opportunity to send a bit is in the same "timeslot" as when you receive 2016-07-27T20:50:59 < aandrew> with UART that bit could be anywhere 2016-07-27T20:51:05 < Emil> ... 2016-07-27T20:51:06 < ReadError> Rob235 that would cut down on your overhead a bunch too 2016-07-27T20:51:08 < Emil> Are you dense or what? 2016-07-27T20:51:13 < ReadError> run fast 2016-07-27T20:51:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:192e:e7e3:d4f0:c2ce] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T20:51:30 < Emil> aandrew: That's the fucking clock. 2016-07-27T20:51:47 < Rob235> ReadError: what would 2016-07-27T20:51:56 < ReadError> going to SPI 2016-07-27T20:52:01 < aandrew> in SPI the transmit clocka nd receive clock are (almost always) the same, no? 2016-07-27T20:52:01 < Rob235> oh, it doesn't support spi 2016-07-27T20:52:13 < aandrew> when you transmit you have an opportunity to receive at teh same time, right? 2016-07-27T20:52:27 < ReadError> Rob235 yea, needs a new sensor 2016-07-27T20:52:39 < ReadError> how fastly are you running it now? 2016-07-27T20:52:45 < Rob235> just to save some speed? its fine 2016-07-27T20:52:56 < Rob235> it should be just about 100 hz 2016-07-27T20:53:14 < Rob235> which is the max the sensor updates everything at 2016-07-27T20:53:19 < ReadError> haha 2016-07-27T20:53:24 < ReadError> pretty shit sensor m8 ;( 2016-07-27T20:53:30 < Emil> Rob235: that's maximum value data rate, not bit rate 2016-07-27T20:53:40 < Rob235> oh yea I know 2016-07-27T20:53:51 < Emil> 100hz is plenty fast for most applications 2016-07-27T20:53:57 < Rob235> but if its maxing out value data rate then bit rate is fast enough 2016-07-27T20:54:17 < Rob235> i'm running i2c at 400 khz or whatever 2016-07-27T20:55:05 < Emil> s/value data rate/update rate 2016-07-27T20:55:18 < ReadError> eh 2016-07-27T20:55:19 < Rob235> yea i know what you meant 2016-07-27T20:55:26 < ReadError> if you are building something new 2016-07-27T20:55:36 < ReadError> why use some garbo sensor 2016-07-27T20:55:50 < Rob235> and what sensor would you use? 2016-07-27T20:55:55 < Emil> ReadError: 100Hz is not garbage at all 2016-07-27T20:55:59 < Rob235> 100hz will work fine 2016-07-27T20:56:15 < Rob235> I think i even saw someone say 50 worked 2016-07-27T20:56:22 < Emil> What's the application? 2016-07-27T20:56:28 < Rob235> drone flight controller 2016-07-27T20:56:59 < Rob235> I get fused euler/quaternion at 100hz 2016-07-27T20:57:02 < Emil> Nice, I've heard stm32s are in high use there 2016-07-27T20:57:03 < ReadError> MPU6000 does 8000Hz 2016-07-27T20:57:23 < Emil> ReadError: perhaps it is IMU readout 2016-07-27T20:57:44 < Emil> So every 1/100s it tells you where one has moved 2016-07-27T20:58:29 < Rob235> ReadError: mpu6xxx only outputs fused data (with only gyro and accel, not mag) at 100hz 2016-07-27T20:58:31 < Rob235> with the dmp 2016-07-27T20:58:38 < ReadError> on 100Hz sure 2016-07-27T20:58:42 < ReadError> Rob235 nobody uses DMP 2016-07-27T20:58:52 < ReadError> iirc its some NDA useless pile of shit 2016-07-27T20:58:58 < aandrew> there's a LOT of work around sensor fusion and filtering the raw sensor data to be useful 2016-07-27T20:59:13 < aandrew> and yeah STM32s find their way into a lot of that, like Emil sais 2016-07-27T20:59:15 < aandrew> said 2016-07-27T20:59:33 < Rob235> the bno055 uses a stm32 to do it onboard 2016-07-27T20:59:39 < Rob235> m0 I believe 2016-07-27T21:00:03 < aandrew> actually current contract is using stm32f4 to do beamforming audio 2016-07-27T21:00:26 < Rob235> so if you fuse gyr/acc/mag on your own on an stm32f4 how fast can you expect it to update 2016-07-27T21:00:44 < aandrew> ST has some libs that will take 2/4 mics in and give you a 180 or 360 degree fix on an audio source, then use that data to improve directionality of a virutal mic pointed at that location 2016-07-27T21:04:08 < Rob235> ReadError: waiting... 2016-07-27T21:04:38 < ReadError> Rob235 we are running loops at 8khz now 2016-07-27T21:04:47 < ReadError> 125us 2016-07-27T21:05:18 < Rob235> with 9dof fusion? 2016-07-27T21:05:32 < ReadError> i dont think any project has used onboard fusion 2016-07-27T21:06:58 < Rob235> you mean onboard meaning the sensor board? so fused using the stm32 you are saying 2016-07-27T21:07:19 < ReadError> onboard as in on the IMU itself 2016-07-27T21:07:26 < ReadError> no SoC 2016-07-27T21:07:41 < Rob235> but you did 9 dof fusion on the mcu 2016-07-27T21:07:46 < Rob235> at that rate 2016-07-27T21:07:52 < ReadError> no i didnt 2016-07-27T21:07:55 < Rob235> ? 2016-07-27T21:08:12 < Rob235> so you dont fuse data 2016-07-27T21:08:15 < Rob235> because you dont need it 2016-07-27T21:08:20 < ReadError> no fusing 2016-07-27T21:08:24 < ReadError> nobody does that 2016-07-27T21:09:08 < ReadError> I cant see how that would make things easier though 2016-07-27T21:09:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.3] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T21:09:14 < ReadError> atleast in this application 2016-07-27T21:09:23 < ReadError> seems like it would just fuck with data 2016-07-27T21:09:34 < Rob235> so how do you get attitude? integrating gyro or something? I'm confused why you are comparing 2016-07-27T21:10:02 < ReadError> comparing what ? 2016-07-27T21:10:05 < Emil> Rob235: altitude* ; ) 2016-07-27T21:10:16 < ReadError> nah attitude is right 2016-07-27T21:10:16 < Rob235> no i meant attitude 2016-07-27T21:10:21 < Rob235> orientation 2016-07-27T21:10:35 < ReadError> Rob235 well i mostly use use gyro modes 2016-07-27T21:10:36 < Emil> Oh 2016-07-27T21:10:39 < Emil> I see 2016-07-27T21:11:31 < ReadError> but this 100hz dmp stuff sounds pretty suspect 2016-07-27T21:11:38 < Rob235> ReadError: so thats good for general low intelligence flying but if adding autopilot and other flying modes, doesn't fused data to get attitude make sense 2016-07-27T21:12:00 < Emil> Rob235: what kind of orientation data are you talking about? 2016-07-27T21:12:16 < Rob235> euler angles at the moment, will be switching to quaternions eventually 2016-07-27T21:12:29 < Emil> A simple accelerometer will tell you your orientation regarding ground 2016-07-27T21:12:56 < ReadError> Rob235 either way you slice it, still looks pretty shit 2016-07-27T21:13:11 < Laurenceb> hopefully they can help... 2016-07-27T21:13:12 < Laurenceb> https://forum.qt.io/topic/69699/qserialport-difficulties 2016-07-27T21:13:13 < Rob235> fair enough, i'm fine with it 2016-07-27T21:13:34 < ReadError> Rob235 well wait until its flow ;) 2016-07-27T21:13:42 < Rob235> Emil: and I also want heading too so mag comes in 2016-07-27T21:14:03 < Emil> Rob235: but what do you need euler angles or quaternions then for? 2016-07-27T21:14:23 < Rob235> to determine the angle error to send to the pid control loop 2016-07-27T21:14:44 < Emil> A PID can take raw accl data 2016-07-27T21:15:17 < Rob235> accel alone isnt enough, need to at least use gyro too (which is my D component) 2016-07-27T21:15:28 < Emil> Sure 2016-07-27T21:15:50 < Emil> Point is that angles and quaternions adds a layer of complexity not required 2016-07-27T21:17:14 < Rob235> I don't know if thats true, in just rate mode sure, but once you add like hover mode you would need to integrate the rates into an angle anyway 2016-07-27T21:17:23 < Emil> Anycase, ReadError, a simple low pass filter requires samples to calculate 2016-07-27T21:17:45 < Emil> So if that 8000S/s is raw data then it can be pretty useless 2016-07-27T21:17:52 < Emil> unless filtered 2016-07-27T21:18:48 < Rob235> maybe I just don't have a full understanding of all this but I dont mind, I know 100 hz is fast enough 2016-07-27T21:19:15 < Emil> It's okay and should work but certainly there are better sensors 2016-07-27T21:19:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:192e:e7e3:d4f0:c2ce] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-27T21:19:43 < Emil> Even a 20Hz control loop would fly, though shaky 2016-07-27T21:19:45 < Rob235> i can always upgrade later, this will hopefully be a neverending project 2016-07-27T21:20:31 < Rob235> as I learn more I improve more 2016-07-27T21:21:03 < ReadError> Emil yea sure but why wouldnt you do that on the FC? 2016-07-27T21:21:12 < Emil> FC? 2016-07-27T21:21:19 < ReadError> instead of getting diluted data from the sensor 2016-07-27T21:21:32 < Emil> Flight Controller? 2016-07-27T21:21:35 < ReadError> yes 2016-07-27T21:21:43 < Rob235> why is it diluted 2016-07-27T21:22:48 < ReadError> isnt it doing fusion? 2016-07-27T21:22:52 < ReadError> or outputting raw 2016-07-27T21:22:55 < Rob235> both 2016-07-27T21:24:04 < Rob235> it outputs euler, quaternion, gravity vector, linear acceleration vector, and all the raw readings 2016-07-27T21:25:27 < ReadError> Emil this 20hz control loop 2016-07-27T21:25:33 < ReadError> whats this based on? 2016-07-27T21:26:06 < Emil> ReadError: It's not hard to get stuff flying, and reading stuff on the internet, watching videos and doing some experiments on my own 2016-07-27T21:26:10 < Rob235> I think most stm32 based FCs are 100 hz, maybe the pixhawk is 400? 2016-07-27T21:26:40 < ReadError> Rob235 u done thought wrong 2016-07-27T21:27:17 < zyp> I'd think most are 400Hz, at least for the inner loop 2016-07-27T21:27:28 < ReadError> zyp even higher now 2016-07-27T21:27:38 < ReadError> 400 was the norm 3-4 years ago 2016-07-27T21:27:52 < zyp> I haven't touched this shit in 3-4 years either 2016-07-27T21:28:02 < Rob235> I'm just talking about sensor reading updates, not like the motor/pid updates 2016-07-27T21:28:08 < zyp> how do you talk to ESCs nowadays? 2016-07-27T21:28:10 < ReadError> but 100 just sounds incredibly low 2016-07-27T21:28:11 < zyp> ah 2016-07-27T21:28:15 < ReadError> zyp very quickly ;) 2016-07-27T21:28:25 < ReadError> they basically divided the pwm down 2016-07-27T21:28:31 < zyp> heh 2016-07-27T21:28:32 < ReadError> first by 8 2016-07-27T21:28:38 < ReadError> then even further... 2016-07-27T21:29:12 < ReadError> but 125-250us range is most common 2016-07-27T21:29:55 < Emil> Anycase, suppose you are running at 72MHz and you get raw data at 8000Hz. Then lets say you do a simple 16 sample IIR (lets not even talk about FIR) on the data you get. And you track 7 different sensors continously. That means you have 72MHz/8000KHz=9000 cycles to do seven 16 sample IIRs and then some more shit. 2016-07-27T21:30:26 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T21:30:36 < zyp> ReadError, idk why they don't just run it all digital instead by now 2016-07-27T21:30:54 < zyp> can't be that hard to make something simple that's less shitty than the i2c stuff that exists 2016-07-27T21:32:28 < Rob235> I have my motor refresh rate (pid & motor mixer) set to 400hz, I figured with sensor readings only being 100hz that faster wouldn't really matter 2016-07-27T21:32:36 < ReadError> zyp adoption I think is the problem 2016-07-27T21:32:46 < ReadError> so many different mfgs 2016-07-27T21:32:55 < ReadError> some push was going towards CAN, still is 2016-07-27T21:33:01 < zyp> sure, but even new pwm shitneeds to be adopted 2016-07-27T21:33:17 < ReadError> yea but thats a bit of software 2016-07-27T21:33:25 < ReadError> the full package would need FC support and ESC support 2016-07-27T21:33:36 < zyp> yeah, can seems like a nice choice 2016-07-27T21:33:37 < ReadError> or some kind of standard people could agree on 2016-07-27T21:33:45 < zyp> I were experimenting with can on my shit 2016-07-27T21:34:33 < zyp> my idea was to just send a broadcast with multiple values, each ESC picks out their own value from that 2016-07-27T21:34:41 < ReadError> but the market is so saturated with drone racers 2016-07-27T21:34:53 < ReadError> that I dont think we will get much push towards the higher end AP stuff for a bit 2016-07-27T21:35:11 < ReadError> that market kinda dropped consumer level but will open up more commercially 2016-07-27T21:35:14 < Rob235> is it worth cranking up my pid/motor mixer past 400hz if sensor readings are only coming in at 100hz? 2016-07-27T21:35:54 < Rob235> wont make a difference right? 2016-07-27T21:36:06 < Emil> Rob235: It can make a difference 2016-07-27T21:37:05 < Rob235> i'll try setting it at 800.... 2016-07-27T21:37:25 < ReadError> Rob235 actually 2016-07-27T21:37:32 < ReadError> ask icee about it 2016-07-27T21:37:35 < ReadError> hes a smart cat 2016-07-27T21:41:04 < Rob235> thinking about another project now too, gotta cut a usb cable, I hope I have a spare one 2016-07-27T21:43:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-27T21:43:46 < Rob235> I also have to decide if I want to change my pid method... I forget who was telling me my idea was bad 2016-07-27T21:43:57 < Rob235> well everyone tells me my ideas are bad.. but specifically that one :) 2016-07-27T21:44:27 < Steffanx> Anyone knows what kind of fancy controller ST would be up to next? Can't think of something don't already have yet. 2016-07-27T21:45:13 < Steffanx> oh L7, but that's not too fancy. 2016-07-27T21:47:48 < zyp> L7 sounds weird, as if F7 isn't already weird enough 2016-07-27T21:48:45 < Steffanx> For those with the "utlra low" power fetish 2016-07-27T21:49:16 < Steffanx> It really seems to be a thing, when you google it. 2016-07-27T21:49:51 < zyp> the thing is, what project would require the power of an cortex-m7 and can't justify going with a cortex-a5 or something instead? 2016-07-27T21:51:42 < Steffanx> Yeah, was kinda wondering the same a while ago. 2016-07-27T21:53:28 < Steffanx> only in the hobby bobby world maybe, where tqfp/qfn is easier to solder 2016-07-27T21:54:02 < zyp> I think you get sama5 in qfp 2016-07-27T21:54:27 < Rob235> oh that's why I had my pid/motor mixer set to 400hz, thats the max an esc can handle 2016-07-27T21:55:08 < Steffanx> afaik you cant zyp 2016-07-27T21:56:41 < zyp> hmm, which was it then 2016-07-27T21:57:27 < zyp> ah, freescale 2016-07-27T21:57:38 < zyp> vybrid series 2016-07-27T21:57:55 < zyp> qfp-176 2016-07-27T21:58:04 < Emil> Hmm 2016-07-27T21:58:16 < zyp> of course, those are all nonstock at DK 2016-07-27T21:58:36 < zyp> ah, but this one is not: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/freescale-semiconductor-nxp/SAC57D54HCVLT/SAC57D54HCVLT-ND/6073494 2016-07-27T21:58:39 < Emil> Which series uC could handle and rudimentary process digital/analogvideo? 2016-07-27T21:59:01 < Emil> I'd like to simply display video data on ~128x128 display 2016-07-27T21:59:24 < Emil> I have a feeling cortex-m4 could do it 2016-07-27T21:59:33 < zyp> any, depending on complexity 2016-07-27T21:59:45 < LeelooMinai> Have not looked into it, but some STM32s have this ART block that is supposed to accelerate some video ops? 2016-07-27T21:59:56 < zyp> ART is flash cache 2016-07-27T21:59:58 < Emil> Well, not any. You need a certain frequency to even get the video data 2016-07-27T22:00:24 < zyp> Emil, you didn't state any standards or any desired video speed 2016-07-27T22:00:26 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, flash cashe? I thought there's something video related somewhere... 2016-07-27T22:00:36 < Emil> zyp: I know 2016-07-27T22:00:52 < Emil> Was thinking about a minimum of 24fps and how about uvc? 2016-07-27T22:01:46 < LeelooMinai> For fast video processing, probably FPGA would be superior, but the tools for those. learning curve, etc. suck 2016-07-27T22:01:46 < Emil> zyp: how about raw RGB 2016-07-27T22:01:53 < zyp> LeelooMinai, you might be thinking of the DMA2D thing that exists in newer F4 parts 2016-07-27T22:02:11 < Emil> LeelooMinai: Yeah, this is not about "video processing" just scaling down acceptably and displaying on screen 2016-07-27T22:02:52 < zyp> Emil, try it and measure it? 2016-07-27T22:03:08 < zyp> anything else would just be guesswork 2016-07-27T22:03:18 < Emil> zyp: guesswork is often useful 2016-07-27T22:03:36 < zyp> ok, then I'm guessing it'll work if your code is good 2016-07-27T22:03:41 < zyp> did that help? 2016-07-27T22:04:59 < Emil> Such helpful 2016-07-27T22:05:04 < Emil> So constructive 2016-07-27T22:05:11 < Emil> Much thanks 2016-07-27T22:05:11 < zyp> 128x128@24 is a pixel rate of around 400kHz 2016-07-27T22:05:27 < zyp> that'll leave you with half a thousand or so cycles per pixel on a highend F4 2016-07-27T22:06:02 < LeelooMinai> So not good enough if you use python:p 2016-07-27T22:06:10 < Emil> Raw C is my friend 2016-07-27T22:06:48 < zyp> I like python, but I don't think I'd want to do much video in it, even on a full computer :p 2016-07-27T22:06:55 < zyp> heh 2016-07-27T22:07:14 < zyp> I actually wrote some colorspace conversion stuff in python a bunch of years ago 2016-07-27T22:07:26 < LeelooMinai> Apparently they got somehting called micropython for micros - scary stuff 2016-07-27T22:07:45 < Emil> Hmm, that's a Pi*10^6 MHz spi clockrate 2016-07-27T22:07:56 < zyp> seen it, but it kinda lacks what makes python nice 2016-07-27T22:08:37 < Emil> And that's grayscale 2016-07-27T22:09:23 < Emil> would take 16k of ram for a single buffer 2016-07-27T22:10:34 < Emil> Would require at least two dma channels 2016-07-27T22:12:14 < Rob235> wow, you cant have default parameters in C? thats annoying 2016-07-27T22:12:50 < Emil> Rob235: you ~can 2016-07-27T22:12:51 < aandrew> nope you can't 2016-07-27T22:12:58 < aandrew> I think C11 does it? 2016-07-27T22:13:16 < aandrew> I'm remembering some goofy way to do it 2016-07-27T22:13:16 < zyp> no, but C++ does 2016-07-27T22:13:20 < LeelooMinai> Many things in C are annoying. That's why C++:) 2016-07-27T22:13:35 < zyp> well, C has varargs, you could use those 2016-07-27T22:13:38 < Rob235> I saw some #define that allows you to have default parameters but fuck it 2016-07-27T22:13:49 < zyp> but that sounds annoying 2016-07-27T22:13:56 < Rob235> coocox coide c++ support scared me so I went with C 2016-07-27T22:14:13 < zyp> C annoys me so I went with C++ 2016-07-27T22:14:48 < Rob235> I'm not using coocox anymore after this project 2016-07-27T22:15:18 < Rob235> I even get a null pointer exception every time I open the ide 2016-07-27T22:18:08 < Rob235> oh nice, they actually came out with a new beta last month, maybe its been improved 2016-07-27T22:18:38 < Rob235> my version is from feb 2015 2016-07-27T22:40:03 < Rob235> my FC is 52kB, not sure if that's a lot but knew I wouldnt be able to use keil with its size limit 2016-07-27T22:44:26 < Rob235> I havent tried turning optimizations on, what level would you guys recommend? 2016-07-27T22:44:52 < Steffanx> 02 or if you like small sizes.. 0s :P 2016-07-27T22:44:59 < Steffanx> *O not 0 2016-07-27T22:45:10 < Rob235> size isn't an issue 2016-07-27T22:45:23 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-27T22:45:24 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-27T22:45:39 < aandrew> I hear good things about using a subset of C++ for embedded but havne't ever done that 2016-07-27T22:46:16 < Rob235> wow, O2 brought it down to 38kB 2016-07-27T22:46:28 < Steffanx> and it still works? :P 2016-07-27T22:46:32 < Rob235> and brought a bunch of warnings with it 2016-07-27T22:47:11 < Emil> Always O3 2016-07-27T22:47:15 < Emil> Loop unrolling ftw 2016-07-27T22:47:20 < Emil> Every cycle counts 2016-07-27T22:48:08 < Rob235> I have -Wall and -Wextra enabled so hopefully the warnings arent very important, I'll look through em in a min 2016-07-27T22:49:18 < Steffanx> O3 is russian roulette much 2016-07-27T22:50:31 < Steffanx> or more like a very dangerous sport, only do it when you really know what you're doing. And still you fail. 2016-07-27T22:51:56 < aandrew> I usually do -Os, at least on embedded 2016-07-27T22:52:26 < aandrew> Steffanx: really? unless you're ignoring warnings I generally don't get goofy shit with optimizations 2016-07-27T22:52:41 < Steffanx> not even o3? 2016-07-27T22:52:43 < ReadError> wait Rob235 2016-07-27T22:52:47 < Steffanx> but yeah, warnings.. 2016-07-27T22:52:49 < ReadError> you still didnt disable the GDB flag? 2016-07-27T22:52:58 < ReadError> and the debug shit 2016-07-27T22:53:08 < Rob235> I don't even know what that is 2016-07-27T22:53:13 < Ultrasauce> rob use -Werror, always 2016-07-27T22:53:16 < Emil> -Os is pretty much always needed 2016-07-27T22:53:39 < ReadError> after changing the GDB flag an -O it cut the cycle time in half 2016-07-27T22:53:50 < ReadError> didnt realize it was so heavy on them things 2016-07-27T22:54:34 < Rob235> how do I do that? 2016-07-27T22:55:15 < Rob235> what does -Werror do? turn warnings into errors? 2016-07-27T22:55:29 < Rob235> or does the W not have anything to do with with warning 2016-07-27T22:55:36 < Steffanx> yes 2016-07-27T22:55:39 < Rob235> ok 2016-07-27T22:55:53 < Rob235> so even shit like unused variables will not compile? thats annoying :) 2016-07-27T22:57:44 < Ultrasauce> it will save you from yourself 2016-07-27T22:58:08 < Rob235> is: -g what I want? 2016-07-27T23:00:27 < Rob235> what if I'm passing a value to a function and at the moment have no need for that value, should I just do something useless with it like add zero? I may never need the value but think I should keep it... after typing all this out I'm thinking maybe I should just get rid of it hah 2016-07-27T23:01:30 < Rob235> actually I know what i'll do with it 2016-07-27T23:01:42 < Rob235> but back to the other question, how do you disable gdb? 2016-07-27T23:03:27 < Ultrasauce> -g enables it 2016-07-27T23:04:04 < Rob235> so is it only enabled when I run debug? 2016-07-27T23:04:11 < Rob235> when I normally compile and flash its disabled? 2016-07-27T23:04:21 < ReadError> i leave it on until finalize 2016-07-27T23:04:29 < ReadError> or if i need to turn if off to see if its fucking w/ stuff 2016-07-27T23:04:36 < Ultrasauce> i will look into my crystal ball and it will tell me the details of your buildsystem in order to provide this answer 2016-07-27T23:04:51 < Rob235> well how can I find out? 2016-07-27T23:04:53 < Rob235> :) 2016-07-27T23:05:18 < Ultrasauce> i imagine your ide has some sort of 'build options' ui? 2016-07-27T23:05:19 < Rob235> oh i see it! 2016-07-27T23:05:26 < Rob235> its enabled 2016-07-27T23:05:40 < Rob235> but that box is not editable.... 2016-07-27T23:05:55 < ReadError> click in the text window 2016-07-27T23:05:56 < ReadError> then try 2016-07-27T23:06:03 < ReadError> (assuming eclipse...) 2016-07-27T23:09:35 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/z5KRt 2016-07-27T23:10:48 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/f25hnXLf/IMG_1440.JPG 2016-07-27T23:11:13 < ReadError> coilcraft sample service hooks it up 2016-07-27T23:14:24 < Rob235> found the file that has the built in compile options 2016-07-27T23:14:38 < Rob235> i'll edit it when its about to be flown 2016-07-27T23:15:51 < ReadError> if ur still having issues y not try now? 2016-07-27T23:16:18 < Rob235> I don't have any issues 2016-07-27T23:16:23 < Rob235> everything is working perfectly 2016-07-27T23:17:46 < Rob235> just gotta decide if I want to add dma timeout checks, check for any wasted time, possibly change my pid from scaled to adaptive integral w/ clipping, and then find PID constants 2016-07-27T23:19:13 < Rob235> oh and hardware wise, add a resistor to ws2812 signal line, balance 4 of the 8 props that need it, and solder everything instead of using female jumper wires 2016-07-27T23:19:35 < Rob235> thats my list 2016-07-27T23:21:36 < ReadError> i would make a board 2016-07-27T23:21:42 < ReadError> increase reliability 10x 2016-07-27T23:22:01 < Rob235> its on the list, this is just v1.0 getting it flying 2016-07-27T23:23:33 < Rob235> not using telemetry because I'm waiting to make a board to add the S-PORT tx/rx splitter circuit, got the smd parts already for that 2016-07-27T23:23:41 < ReadError> also shit buy like a fuckin, 120$ kit 2016-07-27T23:23:51 < ReadError> that tarot is going to hurt 2016-07-27T23:24:38 < Rob235> cant do it, this is my baby :P has to be the first to take the trip 2016-07-27T23:25:49 < ReadError> yea so would you put your newborn infant in a rollercoaster ? 2016-07-27T23:25:53 < ReadError> or the spinny cups 2016-07-27T23:25:58 < Rob235> heh good point 2016-07-27T23:26:09 < ReadError> when those things crash 2016-07-27T23:26:11 < ReadError> they crash hard 2016-07-27T23:26:26 < ReadError> you will be replacing motors, landing gears all kinds of shit 2016-07-27T23:26:41 < ReadError> smaller frame i can bury it into the ground, throw new props on and go 2016-07-27T23:32:29 -!- kow [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-27T23:33:03 < Rob235> I have 1 spare motor, 1 spare ESC, and 2 spare props, I'm sure that will last me 30 seconds :) 2016-07-27T23:34:09 < Rob235> I gotta design a rig to tether it while tuning pid 2016-07-27T23:34:38 < Rob235> but I gotta take a break and clean the apartment. be back later 2016-07-27T23:35:03 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-27T23:35:31 < Lux> ya def make a board 2016-07-27T23:35:51 < Lux> i wasted like 2h today because of a loose cable on a test setup :/ 2016-07-27T23:36:33 < Lux> although that shit can allways happen 2016-07-27T23:38:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-188-116-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-27T23:43:28 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ujh3nz9u6high.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu Jul 28 2016 2016-07-28T00:22:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-28T00:34:26 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T00:42:43 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-28T00:45:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T00:46:09 < Laurenceb__> sup 2016-07-28T00:49:10 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADZDHXv-oP4 2016-07-28T00:50:53 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ADZDHXv-oP4#t=147 2016-07-28T00:51:39 < englishman> Laurenceb__ were you planning to be funny today 2016-07-28T00:52:38 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T00:53:35 < anton02> why do you use mpu with spi 2016-07-28T00:54:07 < englishman> to sample at 32 jigganerds per second 2016-07-28T00:55:10 < Laurenceb__> sampling faster than the speed of fap 2016-07-28T01:00:13 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@abcu227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T01:00:22 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@abcu227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-28T01:00:22 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T01:10:15 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-28T01:38:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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It may just be the GPIO settings 2016-07-28T03:46:49 < Jak_o_Shadows> (getting a timer to toggle a pin) 2016-07-28T03:47:49 < Jak_o_Shadows> I also figured out that interrupt thing - if you have multiple channels, you need to also check that you have the interrupt on for that channel, cause the OC bit in the status register goes on anyway for the other channels 2016-07-28T03:59:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-28T04:02:08 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-28T04:07:31 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@7.220.24.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-28T04:14:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> I got it working! Note: don't try to toggle pins that are connected to nucelo junk 2016-07-28T04:18:21 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T04:28:13 < brianx> '''''' 2016-07-28T04:31:51 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 --- Log closed Thu Jul 28 04:46:44 2016 --- Log opened Thu Jul 28 10:57:42 2016 2016-07-28T10:57:42 -!- jpa- [jpa@91.232.154.72] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T10:57:42 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 128 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 127 normal] 2016-07-28T10:59:07 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 91 secs 2016-07-28T10:59:53 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T11:03:45 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ujh3nz9u6high.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-28T11:07:09 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-28T11:11:10 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T11:21:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-170.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T11:25:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.246] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T11:37:31 < dongs> watching single altidumb thread use 15% CPU 2016-07-28T11:39:31 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T11:42:38 < ReadError> what hexcore u have? 2016-07-28T11:45:10 < PaulFertser> dongs: so what do you use to simulate circuits? 2016-07-28T11:45:47 < dongs> ha ha simulate 2016-07-28T11:45:52 < dongs> i make shit and if it doesnt work i make it again 2016-07-28T11:45:59 < dongs> but err 2016-07-28T11:46:06 < dongs> when i really have to i guess i just use that java falstad thing 2016-07-28T11:46:23 < dongs> which is i think javascript spice or somthign 2016-07-28T11:46:33 < BrainDamage> i've used qucs a bit, in terms of "extra" features it's quite complete, but it lacks some basic "failsafe" stuff in the core engine 2016-07-28T11:47:19 < BrainDamage> all the continuation methods for solving that are otherwise automatic in other engines, you have to do manually in qucs by adding explicitly the parasitics 2016-07-28T11:53:19 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T11:55:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-28T11:58:49 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775c74.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-28T12:03:30 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-28T12:03:51 < Steffanx> Damn dutch customs. 19.50 taxed/handling fees on a 35 euro product. 2016-07-28T12:04:34 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-07-28T12:04:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-28T12:07:45 < mitrax> where from? 2016-07-28T12:09:14 -!- crtbong [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T12:09:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-28T12:12:13 < Steffanx> UsA 2016-07-28T12:12:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T12:14:01 < dongs> pokemon servers down again 2016-07-28T12:17:01 < upgrdman> dongs, seems like many cn women treat their kids less nicely than many american people treat their dogs. do japs love their kids? 2016-07-28T12:19:21 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-28T12:22:42 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T12:22:46 < dongs> eh 2016-07-28T12:23:54 < dongs> the problem wiht american people, is tehy treat their dogs WAY too nicely 2016-07-28T12:24:09 < upgrdman_> lol, k 2016-07-28T12:25:11 < dongs> but yeah, there's a jap word that ~roughly translates to neglect but in jp it doesnt have that kinda negative connotation, and more like "just let htem be" kinda thing. 2016-07-28T12:25:18 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T12:26:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-28T12:35:34 < dongs> https://medium.com/@HoskStation/additional-evidence-that-giant-spacekat-is-a-scam-artist-7e238c3399cb#.jr7ny5rsd 2016-07-28T12:43:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-170.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-28T13:07:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-170.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T13:11:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.39] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T13:17:51 -!- crtbong [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-28T13:23:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T13:50:53 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@2a00:5881:4008:508:a11a:1301:4:123] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:01:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-28T14:07:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:08:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-28T14:08:47 -!- crtbong [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:11:26 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:14:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-28T14:19:18 < crtbong> please 2016-07-28T14:19:35 < flutterbat> dongs: whcih word would that be? 2016-07-28T14:28:17 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-28T14:28:32 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-28T14:35:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:37:28 < jadew> crt, someone spilled something on it? 2016-07-28T14:37:45 < jadew> does it taste like coffe or like battery? :D 2016-07-28T14:38:14 < jadew> on the device that has that brown shit on its PCB 2016-07-28T14:38:27 < jadew> well, I just woke up 2016-07-28T14:38:35 < jadew> ah 2016-07-28T14:38:36 < jadew> weird 2016-07-28T14:38:55 < jadew> how did it get there? 2016-07-28T14:39:47 < jadew> ah, so you suspect they dropped some on it during manufacturing 2016-07-28T14:40:10 < jadew> uninteresting 2016-07-28T14:40:33 < jadew> thought there would be some cooler reason behind it 2016-07-28T14:40:34 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-28T14:41:19 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:43:09 < jadew> heh 2016-07-28T14:43:24 < jadew> how much do you estimate the BOM cost is? 2016-07-28T14:46:07 < jadew> so ~$60 2016-07-28T14:46:31 < jadew> good business to get into 2016-07-28T14:49:27 < jadew> I suspect that there are lots of known brands out there, so if you want to gain some ground you'd better make speakers that don't blow themselves up 2016-07-28T14:49:55 < jadew> I have a guitar amp that started acting funny months after I bought it 2016-07-28T14:57:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T14:59:00 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-28T15:00:22 < BrainDamage> is it one of those with vacuum rectifiers in the psu? 2016-07-28T15:04:36 < BrainDamage> but muh soundstage 2016-07-28T15:09:07 < upgrdman> speaking of autistic, what happened to ohsix? 2016-07-28T15:09:16 < BrainDamage> raged out 2016-07-28T15:23:03 < ReadError> upgrdman he left, then Steffanx implemented the no shittalk policy 2016-07-28T15:23:40 < upgrdman> was he shittalking? 2016-07-28T15:23:43 < ReadError> no 2016-07-28T15:23:49 < ReadError> but dongs was shitposting 2016-07-28T15:23:56 < ReadError> and it made him leave 2016-07-28T15:24:39 < upgrdman> o lol 2016-07-28T15:27:23 < upgrdman> i wonder how loud a gtx1080 fans would be. tempted to get a quiet or silent psu and hsf, but gpu might undo that. 2016-07-28T15:28:45 < dongs> yawn 2016-07-28T15:28:48 < dongs> just get 1060 2016-07-28T15:29:08 < upgrdman> but i wanna game at 4k 2016-07-28T15:29:33 < upgrdman> and even gtx1080 is borderline doable for that 2016-07-28T15:31:05 < dongs> game what? 2016-07-28T15:31:12 < dongs> my altium runs fine in 4K with K1200 2016-07-28T15:31:31 < upgrdman> quake 3 arena 2016-07-28T15:31:45 < upgrdman> jk 2016-07-28T15:32:06 < upgrdman> but i dunno. i gotta sign up for steam and see want gets me moist down there 2016-07-28T15:32:16 < upgrdman> crysis is supposed to be nice? 2016-07-28T15:32:37 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T15:33:06 < dongs> revolution60 isnt out yet 2016-07-28T15:33:44 < dongs> nope, lol 2016-07-28T15:34:00 < upgrdman> no joke, i really wanna play ut2004, but i know i will wanna play modern stuff too 2016-07-28T15:34:36 < upgrdman> i never finished the crysis1 that came with my gts8800 back in the day 2016-07-28T15:35:11 < upgrdman> oh and i think i have still sealed tribes vengence 2016-07-28T15:39:05 < upgrdman> uh ok 2016-07-28T15:39:33 < upgrdman> isnt installing linux a little to extreme? 2016-07-28T15:39:44 < dongs> install racism 2016-07-28T15:40:10 < upgrdman> sudo apt-get install blm 2016-07-28T15:42:19 < dongs> install DRM 2016-07-28T15:47:26 < dongs> i think youre a bit too stoned there bro 2016-07-28T15:48:22 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T15:51:07 < upgrdman> wuts a brony 2016-07-28T15:51:39 < Tectu> Laurenceb 2016-07-28T15:51:46 < ReadError> a gaben 2016-07-28T15:53:55 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@37-123-162-101.cust-ip.bdtv.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T15:57:38 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T16:00:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-28T16:02:42 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-28T16:03:16 < PaulFertser> crt: Both licensed and unlicensed production of the Kalashnikov weapons abroad were almost exclusively of the AKM variant, partially due to the much easier production of the stamped receiver. This model is the most commonly encountered, having been produced in much greater quantities. All rifles based on the Kalashnikov design are frequently referred to as AK-47s in the West, although this is 2016-07-28T16:03:23 < PaulFertser> only correct when applied to rifles based on the original three receiver types 2016-07-28T16:03:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T16:05:00 < dongs> is it a coincidence that most GNU supporters are also gun nuts? 2016-07-28T16:05:16 < PaulFertser> Duh, it's just silly to call something AK-47 if it is not AK-47. It's like saying Windows 95 when you mean Windows NT. 2016-07-28T16:05:48 < PaulFertser> I'm not a gun nut btw. Don't like weaponry at all. 2016-07-28T16:06:30 < zyp> PaulFertser, hey, you're a maintainer for openmoko PID allocation now? 2016-07-28T16:06:39 < PaulFertser> zyp: yes, a comaintaner. 2016-07-28T16:06:50 < zyp> cool, I just sent a request for two pids 2016-07-28T16:06:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-170.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-28T16:07:11 < dongs> is requirement that your shit must be ~open~? 2016-07-28T16:07:36 < PaulFertser> zyp: we'll be cleaning the queue today, expect answer in the evening. 2016-07-28T16:07:44 < zyp> awesome 2016-07-28T16:08:00 < PaulFertser> dongs: either "open source hardware" or "free software firmware", so kinda yes. 2016-07-28T16:08:13 < scrts> sup lads? 2016-07-28T16:08:20 < scrts> ADI ate Linear 2016-07-28T16:08:24 < scrts> what's next? 2016-07-28T16:08:39 < BrainDamage> one single giant conglomerate 2016-07-28T16:08:58 < Sync> wat 2016-07-28T16:09:11 < zyp> PaulFertser, last time I requested some, it took almost two months, so I'm happy to see the process sped up now 2016-07-28T16:09:28 < Sync> ИЖМАШ is now kalashnikov group o0 2016-07-28T16:09:36 < upgrdman> adi is anal devices, right? 2016-07-28T16:09:41 < dongs> y 2016-07-28T16:09:56 < PaulFertser> zyp: yeah, I was sad to see it not working as intended so had to offer to share the load. 2016-07-28T16:11:39 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-28T16:14:35 < Sync> obv 2016-07-28T16:15:30 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T16:16:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-28T16:16:54 < upgrdman_> who bought irf? 2016-07-28T16:16:59 < dongs> infineo 2016-07-28T16:17:32 < dongs> some prettry crazy consolidations in the last few years 2016-07-28T16:17:57 < Sync> that I don't understand 2016-07-28T16:18:12 < dongs> what the fuck is this hsit, we thought we were buying free licenses for iphones 2016-07-28T16:21:10 < flutterbat> dongs: ricenses* 2016-07-28T16:21:33 < dongs> ro 2016-07-28T16:21:35 < dongs> r 2016-07-28T16:22:01 < flutterbat> why ro they have a ri o0 2016-07-28T16:32:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T16:33:59 < PaulFertser> zyp: the repo looks really old for a today's project 2016-07-28T16:34:38 < zyp> that's why the branch is named old_proto 2016-07-28T16:34:51 < PaulFertser> Where's the current? :) 2016-07-28T16:38:39 < zyp> PaulFertser, http://cgit.jvnv.net/cardio/commit/?h=old_proto&id=82e8924 <- better now? 2016-07-28T16:39:20 < zyp> either way it's a mess and it's due for a real overhaul in a few days 2016-07-28T16:39:40 < zyp> bootloader is not added yet, but I'll port over the one I'm using in the arcin project 2016-07-28T16:41:15 < PaulFertser> zyp: yeah better :) would you mind adding a licence header to the source code file and LICENCE file? I think that'd make sense to clarify licensing. 2016-07-28T16:41:53 < zyp> of course, that's on the todo list 2016-07-28T16:42:18 < PaulFertser> Ok, all fine then. 2016-07-28T16:45:03 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-28T16:50:21 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-28T16:53:19 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:05:38 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-28T17:12:04 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:13:07 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:14:40 < jadew> actual court transcript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXB988kF3hI 2016-07-28T17:17:03 < BrainDamage> old 2016-07-28T17:18:27 < jadew> what are you playing? 2016-07-28T17:20:59 < jadew> I played a lot of super mario last week 2016-07-28T17:21:01 < Laurenceb> I see some brony shit 2016-07-28T17:21:15 < Laurenceb> ooh i got a reply on Qt forumz 2016-07-28T17:22:22 < jadew> the nes one 2016-07-28T17:22:40 < jadew> super mario bros 2016-07-28T17:23:24 < Tectu> sup with that cute stuff, Laurenceb ? 2016-07-28T17:23:40 < Laurenceb> https://forum.qt.io/topic/68416/qserialport-reads-very-slowly-and-lost-the-last-string/10 2016-07-28T17:23:55 < Laurenceb> looks like fun 2016-07-28T17:24:10 < Laurenceb> I'm sick and tired of this shit 2016-07-28T17:24:16 < Laurenceb> just want it to work already 2016-07-28T17:24:36 < Tectu> Laurenceb, youa re yczo?! 2016-07-28T17:25:47 < Tectu> you're* 2016-07-28T17:27:21 < Laurenceb> they arent making sense 2016-07-28T17:30:09 < Tectu> where do you guys get your SSL certs from? 2016-07-28T17:32:12 < zyp> Tectu, let's encrypt 2016-07-28T17:32:13 < Laurenceb> oh shits 2016-07-28T17:32:23 < Laurenceb> I think I know what might be going wrong 2016-07-28T17:32:43 < Laurenceb> I have a thread calling portinfo every few seconds 2016-07-28T17:32:52 < Laurenceb> looks like that breaks open ports 2016-07-28T17:33:54 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-07-28T17:34:01 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:34:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-170.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:34:41 < Laurenceb> attn crt: http://8ch.net/newsplus/res/3103.html 2016-07-28T17:39:56 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-07-28T17:39:56 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:43:49 < Laurenceb> time to rewrite serialport connection logic 2016-07-28T17:44:33 < Laurenceb> open("/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb6/6-2/6-2:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:46/rfcomm12/uevent" 2016-07-28T17:44:50 < Laurenceb> seems to be firing off at the times when rfcomm fails 2016-07-28T17:45:08 < Laurenceb> interesting way to access it 2016-07-28T17:47:14 < Tectu> thanks zyp 2016-07-28T17:53:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-170.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-28T17:55:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T17:57:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-28T18:06:29 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T18:08:04 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T18:08:28 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-28T18:08:29 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-07-28T18:20:15 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-28T18:22:28 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-07-28T18:23:01 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-07-28T18:25:52 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T19:10:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T19:14:47 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5355D614.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-28T19:19:08 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5355D614.cm-6-6d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T19:19:41 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-28T19:22:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-28T19:22:54 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T19:24:12 < owl-v-> lol stm32 now has an IDE --> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/development-tools/software-development-tools/stm32-software-development-tools/stm32-ides/sw4stm32.html 2016-07-28T19:24:57 < owl-v-> the article --> https://www.linux.com/news/st-releases-free-linux-ide-32-bit-mcus 2016-07-28T19:26:00 < Fleck> came back from moon owl-v-? 2016-07-28T19:26:08 < Fleck> so old news... :P 2016-07-28T19:27:58 < ReadError> owl-v- its absolutely horrible 2016-07-28T19:28:57 < owl-v-> Fleck: yap. I was locked up in my lab. 2016-07-28T19:29:08 < owl-v-> ReadError: have you used it? 2016-07-28T19:29:31 < ReadError> for like 8 minutes 2016-07-28T19:29:46 < ReadError> having to register to DL should have been a red flag 2016-07-28T19:30:30 < owl-v-> the openstm32.org ? 2016-07-28T19:33:22 < owl-v-> I have to use my name to register ?? 2016-07-28T19:34:28 < owl-v-> the newest forum posts : STLINK v2 reset not working, unable to program/debug by hh, 01:04 2016-07-28T19:34:34 < owl-v-> this is scary.. 2016-07-28T19:37:42 < Laurenceb> https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1447/53/1447531348425.png 2016-07-28T19:42:13 < owl-v-> Laurenceb: that reminded me a quote from Chicago(2002) ---> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0299658/quotes?item=qt0416377 2016-07-28T19:42:33 < owl-v-> he ran into my knife 10 times 2016-07-28T19:42:49 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-28T19:43:57 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T19:46:42 < owl-v-> I failed to register on openstm32.org 2016-07-28T19:51:30 -!- PeterK [~PeterK2@37-123-162-101.cust-ip.bdtv.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-28T19:52:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T20:27:20 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-28T20:34:16 < Laurenceb> rage 2016-07-28T20:34:27 < Laurenceb> Qt errors not due to port scanning 2016-07-28T20:34:29 < Laurenceb> wtf is going on 2016-07-28T20:37:39 < Laurenceb> time to ragequit again 2016-07-28T20:38:03 -!- massi_ [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-28T20:49:52 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T20:50:06 < aandrew> hm 2016-07-28T20:50:17 < aandrew> mringwal: the same guy as btstack? 2016-07-28T20:51:17 < mringwal> aandrew: yupp, that one. 2016-07-28T20:51:49 < aandrew> wow, small world. I doubt you remember me from years back about porting enough of btstack to get L2CAP up on a tiny LPC device 2016-07-28T20:54:09 < Laurenceb> any Qt ers her? 2016-07-28T20:54:12 < Laurenceb> *here 2016-07-28T20:54:16 < mringwal> hm... rings a bell. was the LPC just to small to use BTstack on it? 2016-07-28T20:54:28 * Laurenceb was trying to compile QSerialPort, bad idea 2016-07-28T20:54:37 < Laurenceb> nullptr issues O_o 2016-07-28T20:54:43 < aandrew> mringwal: yes. this was for the (now ancient) Allerta Inpulse watch 2016-07-28T20:54:59 < mringwal> aandrew: yupp, then I remember you :) 2016-07-28T20:55:21 < aandrew> how are things? What've you been up to? 2016-07-28T20:55:52 < mringwal> same same. I left my "day job" and only do BTstack + some iOS consulting 2016-07-28T20:56:06 < mringwal> and you? 2016-07-28T20:56:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T20:57:00 < aandrew> well... Allerta failed to pay, ended up threatening legal action and ultimately settled for around half the total amount. been contracting/consulting all over the place since then. it's been quite a fun ride :-) 2016-07-28T20:57:32 < aandrew> if I remember you had just had a baby back around that time. that must have been pretty scary to quit the day job 2016-07-28T20:57:34 < mringwal> yeah, I remeber that part. what was the most fun gig? 2016-07-28T20:57:50 < aandrew> very happy to hear that btstack and whatnot was so successful for you 2016-07-28T20:57:54 < mringwal> I only quit that one hm.. 1 year ago? 2016-07-28T20:58:02 < mringwal> baby just got 5 2016-07-28T20:58:26 < aandrew> most fun? hm. I had a couple of avionics projects, FPGA work which was very interesting 2016-07-28T20:58:44 < aandrew> did some MIPI camera work whcih taught me a lot too 2016-07-28T20:58:51 < mringwal> FPGA is cool :) (a friend gave me a spartan kit but never tried it out) 2016-07-28T20:59:07 < aandrew> currently working at a medical imaging contract 2016-07-28T20:59:32 < mringwal> any Bluetooth needs? :) 2016-07-28T20:59:42 < aandrew> HDL will *fuck up* your software skillset ... it's a very different way to think but I think it's like learning to write with your non-dominant hand. it ultimately helps you in the end 2016-07-28T21:00:03 < aandrew> mringwal: I have done a *lot* of BLE work actually (using Nordic 51822) but very little "classical" BT 2016-07-28T21:00:29 < aandrew> oh, that was probably most fun: http://wowwee.com/mip 2016-07-28T21:00:32 < mringwal> nice chip. I'm recommending that one unless there's a need for a real stack 2016-07-28T21:00:59 < aandrew> I have a contract coming up for them for a new project (far field audio, beam forming, etc.) 2016-07-28T21:01:00 < mringwal> hey! I've played with that one 2016-07-28T21:02:08 < mringwal> audio beam forming must be awesome, too. we have been pushed to do Bluetooth SBC, and that already let me try to avoid audio at all cost.. 2016-07-28T21:02:58 < mringwal> can I tell my friend that I know the guy who "made the MiP"? 2016-07-28T21:03:03 < aandrew> ther's a lot of math with it which is my weakness, but ST has (binary) libraries they give away to do all fo it 2016-07-28T21:03:15 < aandrew> I was part of the team who did MiP, yes 2016-07-28T21:04:02 < aandrew> their head office is in Montreal which is relatively close to me. I also did the HW and initial software for http://wowwee.com/snappets/ 2016-07-28T21:04:16 < aandrew> whcih is a silly product but they have a lot of those. MiP was way more fun 2016-07-28T21:05:10 < aandrew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgEmuaCiHxY is the current project there with the fancy audio stuff 2016-07-28T21:09:11 < aandrew> anyway... what brings you to #stm32? (I'm not the spokesperson, but am one of the saner people in here, heh) 2016-07-28T21:11:03 < mringwal> lol. I have a few of the dev kits (1-2 at every Embedded World) and did a BTstack port. Since then it was in my IRQ channel list. (trying to avoid real hardware if possible) 2016-07-28T21:16:04 < aandrew> :-) 2016-07-28T21:16:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-188-116-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T21:18:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T21:19:11 < aandrew> there are a few good frameworks which let you get started with CubeMx (their drivers/HAL) and *don't* need a GUI 2016-07-28T21:19:24 < aandrew> i.e. just regular old makefiles and gcc 2016-07-28T21:19:50 < tecdroid> isn't there a sample project inside cubemx? 2016-07-28T21:20:50 < aandrew> there are several 2016-07-28T21:20:59 < aandrew> but they are targeting various build environments 2016-07-28T21:21:32 < aandrew> https://github.com/mixdowninc/stm32cube-freertos-cdc I think that's probably the "basest" version I have 2016-07-28T21:21:43 < aandrew> it gives you CDC serial port and FreeRTOS 2016-07-28T21:23:51 < tecdroid> as far as i understand, you configure your project using cubemx ? 2016-07-28T21:23:53 < tecdroid> never tried 2016-07-28T21:27:05 < aandrew> I only ever use the pin tool 2016-07-28T21:29:34 < tecdroid> took some time to get it running for me since i use linux and the installer.. why is it all .exe? 2016-07-28T21:32:22 < Rob235> sucks spending $50 on a board that doesnt work 2016-07-28T21:32:33 < mringwal> aandrew: I've used libopencm3 in the hope it would make porting to other cortex mx easier. I've also tried cubemx and was pleasantly suprised - although I had to run Windows. 2016-07-28T21:33:21 < tecdroid> cubemx also seems to work under linux ;) 2016-07-28T21:33:34 < aandrew> cubemx works under osx, that's where I use it 2016-07-28T21:33:48 < aandrew> it's an .exe but it's really some .net/mono-compatible thing 2016-07-28T21:33:51 < Rob235> aandrew: you use an ide or just gcc? 2016-07-28T21:34:09 < tecdroid> no, it isn't 2016-07-28T21:34:17 < aandrew> https://mixdown.ca/redmine/projects/mixdown/wiki/Stm32cubemx 2016-07-28T21:34:20 < aandrew> I just use gcc 2016-07-28T21:34:28 < tecdroid> i just decompressed it and it's pure java 2016-07-28T21:34:30 < Rob235> I'm on os x and ive just been vmware'ing my win10 bootcamp partition to run coocox coide 2016-07-28T21:35:23 < aandrew> Rob235: good god why 2016-07-28T21:35:48 < Rob235> heh because it was my first stm32 project and saw it was free with no size limit 2016-07-28T21:36:03 < Rob235> not gonna continue using it after this project 2016-07-28T21:36:33 < Sync> I could not get coide to run 2016-07-28T21:36:33 < Rob235> using stdperiph, havent tried cube yet 2016-07-28T21:36:41 < Rob235> Sync: what version? 2016-07-28T21:36:56 < Rob235> I have to use the old 1.7.8 and I get a null pointer exception everytime I run the ide but other than that it works 2016-07-28T21:37:11 < Rob235> but I just noticed yesterday they came out with a new beta for v2 2016-07-28T21:37:26 < Rob235> was gonna try it just to see 2016-07-28T21:37:43 < tecdroid> seems, there is also an eclipse plugin? 2016-07-28T21:37:52 < tecdroid> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/development-tools/software-development-tools/stm32-software-development-tools/stm32-configurators-and-code-generators/stsw-stm32095.html 2016-07-28T21:38:07 < Rob235> coide is eclipse based so I wouldn't be surprised there are other ways of using eclipse 2016-07-28T21:39:35 < tecdroid> definitely a zipped eclipse site 2016-07-28T21:39:35 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-28T21:39:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-28T21:40:41 < Rob235> time to research usb OTG... 2016-07-28T21:50:02 < Laurenceb> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/07/20/the-people-running-reddits-largest-trump-club-also-promote-eugenics-and-call-muslims-animals/ 2016-07-28T21:50:10 < Laurenceb> far right, possibly illegal memes 2016-07-28T21:50:13 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-07-28T21:53:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T21:54:41 < Rob235> so maybe I will trash this mbed garbage, what stm32 board supports OTG? looking for something as small as possible, like a teensy size 2016-07-28T21:55:37 < Rob235> oh I think the teensy 3.2 can? I happen to have one 2016-07-28T22:02:25 < Laurenceb> https://mitpress.mit.edu/authors/whitney-phillips 2016-07-28T22:36:50 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T22:37:38 < Steffanx> Hmpf, i have this 10GbE NIC in my PC. It has some bootrom and i find no way to make my pc not boot from that. It even seems to boot from that before i can get into efi. 2016-07-28T22:41:12 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-28T22:51:46 < aandrew> Rob235: stm32f4disco does 2016-07-28T22:51:53 < aandrew> probably stm342f3 as well 2016-07-28T22:52:35 < Rob235> I said small :) disco's are huge, I think I'm gonna stick with the mbed for now though 2016-07-28T22:53:35 < Rob235> maybe one of the small nucleos 2016-07-28T22:53:47 < Rob235> but I think I just need to learn more usb stuff first 2016-07-28T22:54:11 < Ultrasauce> psh just stick a disco on top of your copter, no big deal 2016-07-28T22:54:17 < Ultrasauce> http://xn--d-bga.su/shitcopter.jpg 2016-07-28T22:57:51 < BrainDamage> why you didn't use a dildo as antenna radome? 2016-07-28T22:58:18 < Lux> wobblecopter 2016-07-28T22:58:46 < Rob235> its not for my copter, I'm already using the f4 disco for that http://imgur.com/a/2OTTO 2016-07-28T22:58:53 < Rob235> and yes I'm going to solder those wires down 2016-07-28T22:59:11 < Rob235> and yes I will clean it up and create a circuit board at a later date 2016-07-28T23:00:23 < Rob235> I'm starting a second project now which needs to be small 2016-07-28T23:14:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-07-28T23:14:10 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T23:32:53 < Steffanx> what does dé.su mean Ultrasauce? 2016-07-28T23:36:17 < Ultrasauce> it's 10pm, do you know where your memes are? 2016-07-28T23:44:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-28T23:44:46 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-28T23:44:54 < Rob235> blah 2016-07-28T23:45:07 < Rob235> I don't know what to do 2016-07-28T23:52:31 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-28T23:53:15 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-28T23:59:12 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/AJjD3DIqMFs --- Day changed Fri Jul 29 2016 2016-07-29T00:00:06 < Steffanx> i fucking hate memes Ultrasauce. 2016-07-29T00:14:36 < PaulFertser> zyp: 0x60f7 for the bootloader, 0x60f8 for device; can't reply your mail yet as it didn't appear in the archive yet, and I wasn't subscribed when you sent it, so I'm lacking Message-Id to answer to. 2016-07-29T00:16:37 < zyp> awesome, thanks a lot 2016-07-29T00:16:59 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-07-29T00:21:55 < PaulFertser> zyp: welcome, and thank you for releasing free software :) 2016-07-29T00:22:37 < PaulFertser> usb.ids list should get updated eventually, so far we have some misunderstandings with its maintainer, he says the robot that accepts patches works but it's unclear why exactly our changes do not get propagated. 2016-07-29T00:22:42 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T00:26:18 < PaulFertser> Yay, the robot works, it just replied me. 2016-07-29T00:35:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-188-116-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-29T00:45:34 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-29T00:46:15 < Rob235> you are making me jealous, you motivated me to study this usbhostserial library to get mine to respond.... 2016-07-29T00:54:41 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T00:58:18 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-29T01:00:39 < Laurenceb__> http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/83231093 2016-07-29T01:01:29 < zyp> why did I even open that link 2016-07-29T01:02:30 < Sync> because Laurenceb__ 2016-07-29T01:04:26 < Laurenceb__> http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1469741112961.jpg 2016-07-29T01:28:59 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2016-07-29T01:28:59 < Steffanx> solved ;) 2016-07-29T01:32:21 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tvf7rwfb8tcuu.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T02:10:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-29T02:16:00 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-29T02:19:01 < Rob235> the more I read the less intimidating usb is 2016-07-29T02:19:27 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@5.2.67.171] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-29T02:19:28 < Sync> until you actually need to do stuff with it 2016-07-29T02:19:44 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T02:20:04 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@5.2.67.171] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T02:20:52 < Rob235> oh of course, and I still have a million questions but at least I'm moving forward 2016-07-29T02:25:11 < Rob235> "THEM GOOGLE" 2016-07-29T02:25:47 < Rob235> USBing 2016-07-29T02:27:54 < Rob235> ignore me, I'm tired 2016-07-29T02:39:28 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-29T02:48:17 < kakimir> time to sleeps 2016-07-29T02:48:52 < kakimir> because it 3AM 2016-07-29T02:49:17 < BrainDamage> the giant inductor in the sky 2016-07-29T02:49:35 < kakimir> I'll show you my giant inductor in my pants soon 2016-07-29T02:49:44 < BrainDamage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVBCE3gaNxc 2016-07-29T02:50:05 < kakimir> but seriously I want to see the inductor too 2016-07-29T02:50:35 < kakimir> pay 2016-07-29T02:50:50 < kakimir> I didn't know about sample system back then 2016-07-29T02:50:56 < kakimir> now there is no real samples 2016-07-29T02:51:03 < kakimir> just some shiet 2016-07-29T02:51:13 < kakimir> not the part I want 2016-07-29T02:51:27 < kakimir> is britainland the best land? 2016-07-29T02:54:44 < kakimir> it's not perfectly beautyful inductor 2016-07-29T02:57:37 < kakimir> a bit enlonged from it's perfect proportion 2016-07-29T02:58:24 < kakimir> I did not 2016-07-29T02:58:40 < kakimir> I hope to do this one for this autumn - winter 2016-07-29T03:04:38 < kakimir> everything nowday is 2016-07-29T03:05:03 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T03:06:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T03:08:01 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-29T03:08:01 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2016-07-29T03:21:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-29T03:28:25 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tvf7rwfb8tcuu.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-29T03:31:32 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-29T03:40:51 < dongs> http://www.chord.co.uk/product/chord-sarum-super-aray-streaming-cable/ 2016-07-29T03:58:02 < dongs> http://spectrum.ieee.org/static/interactive-the-top-programming-languages-2016 2016-07-29T04:11:07 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-29T04:12:40 < dongs> right 2016-07-29T04:15:19 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avoFI6A4SQY 2016-07-29T04:46:12 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-29T04:46:28 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-29T04:52:14 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-07-29T04:57:50 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T04:59:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-29T05:00:57 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T05:39:40 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-29T05:43:19 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-29T05:47:11 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-07-29T05:50:18 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-29T05:51:06 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T05:51:50 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T05:58:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T06:15:13 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T06:15:55 < anton02> dongs: why is frans in here? 2016-07-29T06:25:24 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-29T06:46:49 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T06:48:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-29T06:49:54 < dongs> anton02: why not 2016-07-29T07:01:00 < dongs> FUck 2016-07-29T07:01:04 < dongs> freefancer filters are broken 2016-07-29T07:01:38 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T07:18:23 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t0asppbecjl5z.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T07:41:16 -!- flutterb1t [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T07:44:19 -!- flutterbat [~Flutterba@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-29T07:44:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-29T07:44:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T07:48:41 -!- jaas [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T07:50:01 < jaas> The stm32 bootloader is for downloading application program through serial pheripherals (USART, I2c ...). If I am programming firmware through SWD, do I still need to care about bootloader? 2016-07-29T07:54:07 < emeb_mac> generally no 2016-07-29T07:54:29 < emeb_mac> bootloader is only handy for installing code when you don't want to use SWD 2016-07-29T07:54:38 < emeb_mac> field updates, etc. 2016-07-29T07:58:24 < dongs> That bootloaderis in ROM anyway 2016-07-29T08:03:40 < jaas> ROM is referring to the bootloader stored in system memory? 2016-07-29T08:06:57 < jaas> during normal boot-up, is the boot-loader involved? Or is the boot-loader only involved during programming? 2016-07-29T08:08:41 < dongs> no 2016-07-29T08:08:46 < dongs> to both 2016-07-29T08:08:56 < dongs> its not involved ever, unless you jump to it or short boot0 pin 2016-07-29T08:11:26 < jaas> for boot0 pin, is it right to set it such that System memory is selected as boot space by default even if I am programming through SWD? or just leave boot0 pin floating? 2016-07-29T08:11:54 < dongs> it should be pulldown to gnd via 10k. 2016-07-29T08:12:00 < dongs> and short to 3.3V to boot from room. 2016-07-29T08:12:02 < dongs> rom 2016-07-29T08:15:35 < jaas> dongs: should be pull up to high to use SYstem memory. based on this http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/82336/whats-the-usage-of-the-three-boot-mode-of-stm32f103 Pulling low will make MCU to boot from main flash memory 2016-07-29T08:15:47 < dongs> that is what i saud, yes 2016-07-29T08:15:48 < dongs> said 2016-07-29T08:15:50 < jaas> dongs: is my interpretation correct? 2016-07-29T08:16:04 < dongs> < dongs> it should be pulldown to gnd via 10k. 2016-07-29T08:16:06 < jaas> ok. thanks 2016-07-29T08:21:47 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-07-29T08:22:02 < upgrdman> so feeling kinda lazy. whats the best microATX mobo out now 2016-07-29T08:22:21 < upgrdman> saw a $300 one on newegg with like 12 USB ports. lol 2016-07-29T08:25:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T08:29:10 < upgrdman> ok, better question: are their any sites that go honest hardware reviews? like objective, no emotion ("feels good, they have a nice reputation, im gay for their ceo..." 2016-07-29T09:36:26 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T09:42:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T10:03:56 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T10:24:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.152] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T10:26:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-29T10:33:56 < upgrdman> anyone know what the oracle page is that has pics of most swing widgets 2016-07-29T10:39:52 < upgrdman> i miss ohsix. he was great for this kinda stuff 2016-07-29T10:50:28 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-29T10:50:56 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T10:51:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-29T10:54:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-29T11:05:55 < dongs> try #autism 2016-07-29T11:06:10 < dongs> < upgrdman> i miss ohsix. 2016-07-29T11:19:44 < dongs> fuck 2016-07-29T11:19:50 < dongs> china sent me mental pads .pcb 2016-07-29T11:19:56 < dongs> cant evne open that shit in pro soft 2016-07-29T11:31:50 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-68.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T11:38:32 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T12:02:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-29T12:09:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.100] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T12:12:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T12:17:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-29T12:28:47 < Steffanx> Join libopencm3 upgrdman. He is there 2016-07-29T12:29:19 < Steffanx> Or sigrok 2016-07-29T12:29:20 < upgrdman> k thx 2016-07-29T12:34:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-68.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-29T12:42:08 -!- jaas [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-07-29T12:57:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-68.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T13:04:29 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-29T13:24:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T13:54:14 < Sync> hax 2016-07-29T14:02:50 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T14:07:02 < dongs> lol 2016-07-29T14:29:53 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-07-29T14:34:47 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Audio-Video-delayer-with-Mute/ haha 2016-07-29T14:35:25 < BrainDamage> lunix is a pretty good video-audio delayer by itself, you just don't get to chose the delay 2016-07-29T14:35:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Technical-Writing/Translate-technical-manuals-into/ 2016-07-29T14:50:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:02:42 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:02:45 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:13:41 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:13:45 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:19:39 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:19:52 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:28:53 -!- syke [~syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:35:42 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:36:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:42:09 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:43:42 -!- syke [~syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-29T15:45:26 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:45:33 -!- syke [~syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:47:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T15:55:24 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/product/bq24725a/description hmmm 2016-07-29T15:55:41 < dongs> maybe better this than 195 2016-07-29T15:59:59 < dongs> SLUSAL0A –SEPTEMBER 2011 2016-07-29T16:00:02 < dongs> TI did WTC 2016-07-29T16:00:41 < dongs> how unpatriotic. everyone in america was mourning the events of 9/11 and TI was updating their shitty datasheets 2016-07-29T16:02:10 < ReadError> maybe they was like hey its dongs birthday lets update this datasheet for a part he may use eventually 2016-07-29T16:03:05 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T16:19:22 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T16:20:33 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699704.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-29T16:20:55 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T16:23:15 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-29T16:28:05 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T16:31:18 < dongs> Figure 21. Need improve PCB layout example. 2016-07-29T16:32:15 < dongs> ah so i installed PADS VX (whatever the fuck that is, it was the only free version I could torrent) on office pc 2016-07-29T16:32:21 < dongs> absolutely awful UI 2016-07-29T16:32:30 < dongs> but it was easy to figure out how to open .pcb 2016-07-29T16:32:33 < dongs> and export as .asc 2016-07-29T16:33:05 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-07-29T16:35:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-29T16:39:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-098-68.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-29T17:01:45 < upgrdman> so tempting... mini itx too https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-Motherboard-Z170I-PRO-GAMING/dp/B015FY4HLS/ref=sr_1_15?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1469800662&sr=1-15&keywords=asus+z170 2016-07-29T17:03:07 < Tectu> upgrdman, I have the ATX version of that board 2016-07-29T17:03:25 < Tectu> it makes me very pro at gaming 2016-07-29T17:03:31 < upgrdman> like it? 2016-07-29T17:03:46 < Tectu> yes, can't complain. Seems to be a decent board. 2016-07-29T17:03:59 < Tectu> it has some LED crap that does LED animation crap but that can be disabled in the EFI 2016-07-29T17:04:03 < BrainDamage> but can you 360noscope with it? 2016-07-29T17:04:30 < dongs> > pro gaming 2016-07-29T17:04:32 < dongs> stopped reading here 2016-07-29T17:04:46 < Tectu> no, you have to purchase a replacement EFI chip that unlocks quickscoping, BrainDamage 2016-07-29T17:05:22 < Tectu> upgrdman, the only thing that is odd is that win10 didn't have ethernet drivers that works with it. Had to USB-drive copy them 2016-07-29T17:05:35 < upgrdman> lol k 2016-07-29T17:05:43 < dongs> ASMedia® USB 3.1 controller : 2016-07-29T17:05:44 < dongs> 2 x USB 3.1 port(s) (Type-A) 2016-07-29T17:05:46 < dongs> AIDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 2016-07-29T17:05:58 < upgrdman> hmm reviews are bitching about shit wifi :( 2016-07-29T17:06:05 < Tectu> dongs, can you elaborate? 2016-07-29T17:06:13 < Tectu> upgrdman, I haven't used wifi, not even sure whether mine does wifi 2016-07-29T17:06:49 < dongs> anyway at least it doesnt have that retarded killer nic 2016-07-29T17:07:22 < Tectu> oh that thing, lol. does that still exist? 2016-07-29T17:07:29 < dongs> yes 2016-07-29T17:07:42 < dongs> its in pretty much every gigabyte GaYmEr board 2016-07-29T17:07:47 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T17:07:48 < dongs> which is why gigabyte is 100% dead to me 2016-07-29T17:07:57 < upgrdman> killer nic? 2016-07-29T17:08:05 < dongs> its lunix 2016-07-29T17:08:10 < dongs> like literally 2016-07-29T17:08:11 < dongs> on a chip 2016-07-29T17:08:16 < dongs> and it shows up as ethernet 2016-07-29T17:08:23 < dongs> they somehow think they can reduce gaymer latency 2016-07-29T17:08:28 < dongs> by sending your packets through lunix 2016-07-29T17:08:32 < dongs> instead of .. you know.. hardware nic 2016-07-29T17:08:47 < Tectu> http://www.killernetworking.com/ 2016-07-29T17:08:58 < Tectu> oh, they do onboard now? last time I've seen them was like 2009 and that was PCIe only 2016-07-29T17:09:04 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699704.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ByeBye!] 2016-07-29T17:09:19 < dongs> haha no man, they have it down to a single chip now 2016-07-29T17:09:26 < dongs> looks like they have wifi trash now too 2016-07-29T17:09:32 < Tectu> this was the thing: http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImage/33-342-001-08.jpg 2016-07-29T17:09:47 < dongs> lol 2016-07-29T17:09:52 < Tectu> it has an USB port where you could plugin your mass storage device and it would allow you to configure crap so that your torrents are directly put on that drive... 2016-07-29T17:09:52 < dongs> blast from teh fucking past 2016-07-29T17:10:07 < dongs> right, cuz it was basically some 300mhz shitty lunix SoC 2016-07-29T17:10:17 < dongs> lol @ PCI buffer ICs 2016-07-29T17:10:21 < dongs> did that shit run at 5V or something 2016-07-29T17:10:49 < upgrdman> wanna stick itx mobo n gtx1080 in this https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-Enthoo-Evolv-Window-PH-ES215P_BK/dp/B00U8625HC/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1469801320&sr=1-4&keywords=itx+case 2016-07-29T17:11:25 < dongs> Usually ships within 1 to 3 months. 2016-07-29T17:11:26 < dongs> btw 2016-07-29T17:11:31 < dongs> by choosing shitITX 2016-07-29T17:11:34 < dongs> 32gb ram max 2016-07-29T17:11:36 < Tectu> dongs, but seriously, gigabyte mainboards have default killer NIC now? Like no sane hardware NIC? 2016-07-29T17:11:53 < dongs> Tectu: yeah, pretty much every Z170 board from them back when I was looking to upgrade was killer junk 2016-07-29T17:12:15 < Tectu> jesus 2016-07-29T17:12:18 < dongs> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/list.aspx?s=42&jid=0&p=346&v=27 2016-07-29T17:12:30 < dongs> half the shit on this list has killer 2016-07-29T17:12:31 < dongs> lo 2016-07-29T17:12:46 < upgrdman> ive never filled my 16gb ram, 32max seems fine for me 2016-07-29T17:12:58 < dongs> dont you run VMs 2016-07-29T17:13:15 < Tectu> what VM software does Mr. dongs use? 2016-07-29T17:13:26 < dongs> vmware workstation pro 2016-07-29T17:13:39 < upgrdman> not as much, ive found windows equivs for most of what i do 2016-07-29T17:13:50 < dongs> err 2016-07-29T17:13:55 < dongs> i run windows in VM 2016-07-29T17:13:58 < dongs> lots of windows 2016-07-29T17:14:11 < Tectu> dongs, okay. I just jumped on that train a few weeks ago. 2016-07-29T17:14:27 < upgrdman> ya, id get 32, but i mean, i dont see that as a limit 2016-07-29T17:14:47 < upgrdman> u got 64? 2016-07-29T17:15:00 < dongs> 32 with 4 slots, onmyl 2 used 2016-07-29T17:15:05 < dongs> so i can go to 64 when needed 2016-07-29T17:15:22 < Tectu> I have 64gb, I use about 45gb right now 2016-07-29T17:15:41 < Tectu> dongs, just curious, are you on 2011? 2016-07-29T17:15:44 < upgrdman> wtf 45 used on wut 2016-07-29T17:15:52 < upgrdman> porn on ramdisk? 2016-07-29T17:15:52 < Tectu> oh, I stand corrected, I use 59gb right now 2016-07-29T17:16:35 < Tectu> no, I have 4 VMs running and 2 of those are actively doing stuff 2016-07-29T17:16:51 < Tectu> also chrome with 12 tabs 2016-07-29T17:16:51 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T17:16:58 < dongs> upgrdman: did you figure out how to rip docs from wenku.baidu shit 2016-07-29T17:17:25 < upgrdman> no, wuts dat? 2016-07-29T17:18:00 < dongs> christ man how can you be in .cn and not know 2016-07-29T17:18:20 < Sync> ^ 2016-07-29T17:18:28 < upgrdman> been to busy xraying my balls 2016-07-29T17:18:37 < Sync> legit excuse 2016-07-29T17:19:08 < Tectu> I bet upgrdman is actually upskrtman 2016-07-29T17:19:17 < Tectu> hence he moved to .cn 2016-07-29T17:19:21 < Tectu> cuz school uniforms 2016-07-29T17:19:37 < upgrdman> seems overpriced but nice https://www.amazon.com/MAXIMUS-VIII-GENE-LGA1151-Motherboard/dp/B012NH1MCM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469801881&sr=8-1&keywords=maximus+viii+gene 2016-07-29T17:20:01 < upgrdman> i didnt notice school uniforms 2016-07-29T17:20:18 < upgrdman> this isnt jap land 2016-07-29T17:20:20 < dongs> ROG more like ROD 2016-07-29T17:20:34 < dongs> (ring of death?) or whatever on xbawx 2016-07-29T17:21:00 < BrainDamage> we had school uniforms in elementary school, i distinctively remember wanting to set everything on fire because of them 2016-07-29T17:21:09 < upgrdman> so whats wenku 2016-07-29T17:21:46 < Tectu> BrainDamage, italy does school uniforms? What that some private school? 2016-07-29T17:22:07 < BrainDamage> public school, for elementary 2016-07-29T17:25:23 < upgrdman> dongs, so i google tranlated wenku.baidu, wtf is it? chink khan academy? 2016-07-29T17:25:54 < dongs> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7f5_1469728818 holy shit lol (skip to :29) 2016-07-29T17:26:07 < dongs> upgrdman: its document/pdf/datasheet storage 2016-07-29T17:26:12 < dongs> lots of chink shit is on there 2016-07-29T17:26:22 < dongs> requires some crappy account and some 'points' or something to download 2016-07-29T17:27:22 < upgrdman> so like why would anyone want it 2016-07-29T17:27:29 < upgrdman> torrent shit, no? 2016-07-29T17:29:21 < dongs> torrents for datasheets? 2016-07-29T17:29:53 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-29T17:30:57 < upgrdman> oh then just google 2016-07-29T17:31:07 < upgrdman> no? 2016-07-29T17:31:10 < dongs> yes, and end up on wenku 2016-07-29T17:31:23 < upgrdman> 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the connection] 2016-07-30T01:12:35 < Laurenceb__> banned I got did? 2016-07-30T01:27:25 < Rob235> man, I haven't felt this dumb in a while.... 2016-07-30T01:28:46 < Rob235> trying to wrap my head around the whole usb protocol by reading this usbhost library and some usb websites... 2016-07-30T01:29:09 < Rob235> too much to remember 2016-07-30T01:32:39 < Rob235> I thought the device I was trying to connect with was registered as a communications device but I don't think it is anymore. it's sending HID interrupt urbs 2016-07-30T01:34:50 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-30T01:48:25 < kakimir> hyperloop backfired? 2016-07-30T01:59:51 < Laurenceb__> hyperloop is even more stupid than Sarah Palin 2016-07-30T02:00:07 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ ever used copper plated magnets 2016-07-30T02:00:30 < Laurenceb__> wut no 2016-07-30T02:00:42 < ReadError> i need some magnets i can solder too 2016-07-30T02:00:44 < ReadError> to* 2016-07-30T02:00:59 < Laurenceb__> eeek 2016-07-30T02:01:06 < ReadError> but like ninja so they still work 2016-07-30T02:01:08 < Laurenceb__> you will kill most magnet with solder 2016-07-30T02:01:13 < kakimir> I thought that elon musk would pay hyperloop 2016-07-30T02:01:22 < Laurenceb__> hyperloop is less stupid than http://hackaday.com/2016/07/28/repaired-manned-multicopter-flies-without-horrifying-crash/ 2016-07-30T02:01:23 < ReadError> thats my plan, work very fastly 2016-07-30T02:01:31 < Laurenceb__> erm it doesnt really work like that 2016-07-30T02:01:41 < Laurenceb__> the heat is going to get below the plating 2016-07-30T02:01:47 < ReadError> conductive epoxy then maybe 2016-07-30T02:01:48 < Laurenceb__> I guess maybe if you are really fast 2016-07-30T02:01:55 < Laurenceb__> why not just epoxy? 2016-07-30T02:02:11 < ReadError> because i need to move power through it 2016-07-30T02:02:26 < Laurenceb__> sounds like design flaw lol 2016-07-30T02:02:30 < ReadError> nope 2016-07-30T02:02:39 < Laurenceb__> this is also the reason emdrive "works" 2016-07-30T02:02:51 < ReadError> yea but this idea will actually work 2016-07-30T02:03:13 < Laurenceb__> the magnets in their magnetrons lose strength when the magnetron is on, causing a torque change due to interactino with the earths field 2016-07-30T02:03:25 < ReadError> they only need to hold themselves 2016-07-30T02:03:35 < ReadError> and its not gonna be but 1A max 2016-07-30T02:03:42 < Laurenceb__> or in the case of Mr Shawyers emdrive, there is a huge fan on the ceiling to drive it lol 2016-07-30T02:04:40 < ReadError> https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/disc-magnets-neodymium/disc-magnet-diameter-12mm-height-6mm-neodymium-n45-copper-plated_S-12-06-K 2016-07-30T02:04:44 < ReadError> this is a thing though 2016-07-30T02:05:36 < Laurenceb__> lul this is fail indeed http://hackaday.com/2016/07/29/fail-of-the-week-magnetic-flow-measurement-gone-wrong/ 2016-07-30T02:05:45 < Laurenceb__> trying to pick up DC field with a coil 2016-07-30T02:06:25 < Laurenceb__> interesting magnet, maybe clean and perhaps flux the copper, then drop into molten solder 2016-07-30T02:07:29 < Laurenceb__> so have a pool of solder at about 300ºC 2016-07-30T02:08:09 < Laurenceb__> sounds about as much fun as trying to solder 304 stainless 2016-07-30T02:29:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-30T02:39:27 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-30T02:43:10 < kakimir> I need to build high speed flywheel storage when I get my composites 2016-07-30T02:45:48 < Laurenceb__> wut 2016-07-30T02:45:58 < Laurenceb__> flywheel energy density isnt very good 2016-07-30T02:47:35 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ i found gold plated shits 2016-07-30T02:47:52 < ReadError> gonna try to solder one, all else fails epoxy should work 2016-07-30T02:47:59 < Laurenceb__> are they running for president? 2016-07-30T02:48:13 -!- 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hot cousin 2016-07-30T03:24:01 < Laurenceb__> you have probably fapped to her already - changirl 2016-07-30T03:24:24 < Laurenceb__> if you like emo camwhores 2016-07-30T03:26:16 < ReadError> link 2016-07-30T03:26:47 < Laurenceb__> lul no identifying information 2016-07-30T03:26:57 < ReadError> find a pic and screenshoot it 2016-07-30T03:27:02 < ReadError> w/ mods 2016-07-30T03:27:17 < Laurenceb__> nope, reverse image search exists 2016-07-30T03:27:28 < ReadError> right thats why i said mod 2016-07-30T03:27:53 < Laurenceb__> ReadError just wants free pronz 2016-07-30T03:28:21 < ReadError> lol no, i was just gonna see if u was gonna find a naked pic of your cousin then call you disgusting 2016-07-30T03:29:29 < Laurenceb__> cool story bro 2016-07-30T03:31:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-30T03:31:32 < ReadError> tell us tales of cuck from times of ye ole 2016-07-30T03:35:49 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-07-30T03:35:59 < Laurenceb__> the Cuckterbury tales 2016-07-30T03:39:51 < ReadError> R2COM is the cuck commander 2016-07-30T03:44:09 < Laurenceb__> R2COM confirmed as centipede 2016-07-30T03:45:02 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/45f98o/trump_memes_explanation/?st=ir8gh9fc&sh=93c7d305 2016-07-30T03:54:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T03:58:16 < aandrew> wtf I never noticed it before 2016-07-30T03:58:27 < aandrew> it looks like trump's face is getting sucked back into his head 2016-07-30T04:06:04 < ReadError> blurbusters ? 2016-07-30T04:06:07 < ReadError> old old old 2016-07-30T04:06:25 < ReadError> yea 2016-07-30T04:06:34 < ReadError> you can notice it, even scrolling 2016-07-30T04:06:37 < ReadError> like terminals and windows 2016-07-30T04:06:46 < ReadError> i use both 2016-07-30T04:06:54 < ReadError> i have both 2016-07-30T04:07:03 < ReadError> 4k and 144 2016-07-30T04:07:11 < ReadError> yes, 2 different monitors 2016-07-30T04:08:18 < ReadError> yea, works fine for desktop shit though too 2016-07-30T04:09:22 < ReadError> looks nice 2016-07-30T04:09:25 < ReadError> gsync? 2016-07-30T04:11:10 < ReadError> World-first 165Hz refresh rate and NVIDIA®G-SYNC™ technology for seamless visuals and smooth gameplay 2016-07-30T04:11:14 < ReadError> ah it does 2016-07-30T04:11:20 < ReadError> so you have nvidia card ? 2016-07-30T04:15:07 < ReadError> then buy it already 2016-07-30T04:16:15 < ReadError> res is pretty decent for that hz 2016-07-30T04:16:37 < ReadError> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236677 2016-07-30T04:16:40 < ReadError> other option i guess 2016-07-30T04:17:27 < ReadError> but 60hz 2016-07-30T04:24:19 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-07-30T04:29:20 < upgrdman> are ther any 4k >60hz monitors? 2016-07-30T04:31:54 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-30T04:31:57 < 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ReadError> i axed him to explain 2016-07-30T05:26:59 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T05:42:06 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have a nucelo f401 board, and a timer toggling a pin. This timer has a period of 2, and a compare of 1. ow to I make it faster? 2016-07-30T05:45:15 < upgrdman> timer clock at max? 2016-07-30T05:45:23 < upgrdman> see cock tree in ref man 2016-07-30T06:02:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-30T06:07:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T06:26:34 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'm not sure the nucleo board I have has an external crystal/clock 2016-07-30T06:26:41 < Jak_o_Shadows> So that limits me to 16MHz? 2016-07-30T06:48:44 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/23mDV0h.jpg 2016-07-30T06:49:00 < ReadError> need idea how to make work consistently 2016-07-30T06:49:08 < ReadError> its not the normal style 2016-07-30T06:51:32 < Rob235> fuck usb :) 2016-07-30T06:52:07 < Jak_o_Shadows> I would say it's not thick enough? 2016-07-30T06:53:14 < ReadError> righ 2016-07-30T06:53:27 < ReadError> I was thinking of a battery tab folded and soldered 2016-07-30T06:53:37 < ReadError> or something 2016-07-30T06:53:37 < Jak_o_Shadows> I'd just put solder over it 2016-07-30T06:54:01 < Jak_o_Shadows> also, worst comes to worst, you could just cut off a cable and connect it that way 2016-07-30T06:54:36 < ReadError> 2mm board seems like it would fit right 2016-07-30T06:54:45 < ReadError> i need to measure with calipers 2016-07-30T06:55:51 < ReadError> somewhere between 1.6 and 2.0 maybe 2.0 and sand it into a taper 2016-07-30T07:19:32 < Rob235> does cube have usb otg/host support? 2016-07-30T08:39:38 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-07-30T08:48:26 < upgrdman> is the i7 6700k the best value if you want power 2016-07-30T09:07:36 < Thorn> ##hardware 2016-07-30T09:13:58 < ReadError> upgrdman i went w/ the 5280k 2016-07-30T09:14:05 < ReadError> over the 6700k 2016-07-30T09:14:10 < upgrdman> y 2016-07-30T09:14:15 < ReadError> 2 more cores 2016-07-30T09:14:21 < ReadError> more powerful etc 2016-07-30T09:15:04 < upgrdman> 5820? 2016-07-30T09:15:09 < ReadError> http://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,82932 2016-07-30T09:15:11 < ReadError> ya that 2016-07-30T09:15:19 < upgrdman> looks slower 2016-07-30T09:15:31 < ReadError> runs 4.36ghz 2016-07-30T09:15:36 < ReadError> air 2016-07-30T09:15:48 < ReadError> 64gb ram 2016-07-30T09:16:08 < ReadError> look at memory bandwidth 2016-07-30T09:16:11 < ReadError> pci-e lanes 2016-07-30T09:16:16 < ReadError> cache 2016-07-30T09:16:55 < upgrdman> hmmm 2016-07-30T09:16:59 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-07-30T09:17:20 < ReadError> they have newer stuff now tho 2016-07-30T09:17:34 < ReadError> its just what i went with a few months back when looking at the same 2016-07-30T09:17:56 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T09:20:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T09:53:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T10:02:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-30T10:15:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q)] 2016-07-30T10:23:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.10] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T10:50:18 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-30T10:50:38 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T11:03:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T11:05:28 < upgrdman> does c have an equiv for constexpr? 2016-07-30T11:06:34 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T11:17:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-30T11:21:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-30T11:37:14 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T11:56:59 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: just use c++ compiler ;) 2016-07-30T11:57:18 < upgrdman> :) 2016-07-30T11:59:38 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-30T12:08:16 < PaulFertser> Seriously, any reason not to use g++ --std=c++14 for new embedded projects? (except when you're a Keil whore) 2016-07-30T12:09:10 < upgrdman> fair enough. is there ~zero overhead if you dont use the cpp features? 2016-07-30T12:11:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T12:19:34 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-30T12:21:08 < ReadError> ready for that BASH UBUNTU update already 2016-07-30T12:30:04 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-30T12:32:47 < ReadError> no need 2016-07-30T12:32:59 < Steffanx> it's on wndows crt. 2016-07-30T12:34:21 < ReadError> i want to see whats in their apt repo 2016-07-30T12:34:30 < ReadError> but cant find the yerl 2016-07-30T12:42:09 < Steffanx> heh. 2016-07-30T12:43:31 < Steffanx> vacancy-writers are so.. often experience with version control is required. And then they list: CSV, subversion. Who still uses CSV in 2016 ?!! 2016-07-30T12:43:51 < Steffanx> *cvs 2016-07-30T12:44:35 < Steffanx> How are you today crt. No longer keiling? 2016-07-30T12:45:16 < Steffanx> i noticed, when you were keiling you were too busy to wannabee-laurenceb :P 2016-07-30T12:46:37 < PeterM> bloody hell, it has been a while since https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvL-WGcoBis 2016-07-30T12:47:33 < ReadError> PeterM wat did you spec for the inductor on the RT9480 ? 2016-07-30T12:48:02 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: afaict, yes. 2016-07-30T12:48:30 < ReadError> just a lil 3x3mm joint ? 2016-07-30T12:48:40 < upgrdman> k 2016-07-30T12:50:46 < PeterM> NR6028T2R2N 2016-07-30T12:51:48 < PeterM> but if oyu only want 2A not 2.5A you can use one of the cheapo bourns SRN2512-2R2M 2016-07-30T12:54:00 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Murata-Electronics/LQH32PN1R0NN0L/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsg%252by3WlYCkU9oBvn8kICtvuXMIV%2f5fRo4%3d 2016-07-30T12:54:08 < ReadError> i use these a bunch but in 2.2 2016-07-30T12:56:25 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/23mDV0h.jpg 2016-07-30T12:56:31 < ReadError> pls2help idea 2016-07-30T12:57:22 < Steffanx> wut? 2016-07-30T12:57:28 < ReadError> ignore the red circle 2016-07-30T12:57:42 < ReadError> i need a way to tension board inside a usb plug 2016-07-30T12:57:55 < ReadError> its not the normal maker style usb plug 2016-07-30T12:58:16 < PeterM> i wouldnt use those if you dont want your output to be noisy, shit will saturate 2016-07-30T12:58:29 < ReadError> PeterM this is only for charging 2016-07-30T12:58:34 < ReadError> im not using the usb out 2016-07-30T12:58:55 < ReadError> and dont want to change chips since I kinda like the LED and discharge 2016-07-30T12:58:57 < PeterM> ya, but if you use the thing to power a dev board or somethign in the future... 2016-07-30T12:59:19 < PeterM> jsut sayin' 2016-07-30T12:59:41 < ReadError> actually if im not using usb out then the usb plug isnt needed either 2016-07-30T13:00:11 < PeterM> anyway, those inductors are fine if your not >1.8A~ out 2016-07-30T13:00:48 < ReadError> im makin a little keychain charger/checker shit 2016-07-30T13:01:03 < ReadError> w/ just a microusb, rt IC and leds 2016-07-30T13:01:14 < ReadError> then doing 2 wires and gold plated magnets for the terminals 2016-07-30T13:01:26 < ReadError> tryin to get it in postage stamp area or so 2016-07-30T13:01:31 < PeterM> ahh neat 2016-07-30T13:03:56 < ReadError> Laurenceb said the magnets wont work for power 2016-07-30T13:04:03 < ReadError> but brotheory suggest it will 2016-07-30T13:04:52 < ReadError> you should see these coilcraft joints 2016-07-30T13:05:11 < ReadError> you would be covered in clue goo 2016-07-30T13:06:48 < ReadError> PeterM put me up on them a while back 2016-07-30T13:07:00 < ReadError> pretty tits little chip for the price 2016-07-30T13:11:44 < ReadError> already has m8 2016-07-30T13:14:54 < ReadError> are you a wizard too? 2016-07-30T13:34:30 < Steffanx> Aren't you the expert? 2016-07-30T13:40:56 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T13:42:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-30T13:52:45 < Steffanx> Still blendering much upgrdman_? 2016-07-30T13:53:27 < dongs> he'll start as soon as he gets his gaming rig up 2016-07-30T13:53:42 < upgrdman_> ^ exactly 2016-07-30T13:53:52 < upgrdman_> that waa part of why 2016-07-30T13:54:01 < Steffanx> sli gtx 1080? 2016-07-30T13:54:13 < upgrdman_> cloth sims punish this sueface bro 4 so much 2016-07-30T13:54:13 < dongs> newsflash: blender is software rendering only 2016-07-30T13:54:13 < Steffanx> Better get yourself some rendering farm them 2016-07-30T13:54:16 < dongs> cuz openssauce 2016-07-30T13:54:17 < upgrdman_> no sli 2016-07-30T13:54:20 < upgrdman_> just one 2016-07-30T13:54:44 < upgrdman_> so i can ise the rectal designs node 202 case 2016-07-30T13:55:03 < upgrdman_> dongs, not true 2016-07-30T13:55:12 < Steffanx> dongs info is based on 2001 info. 2016-07-30T13:55:15 < upgrdman_> theres more than one rendering engine 2016-07-30T13:55:26 < dongs> lol 2016-07-30T13:55:33 < dongs> WHY THE FUCK DO OPENSORES SHIT DO THIS 2016-07-30T13:55:42 < dongs> case in point: kikecad 2016-07-30T13:55:47 < dongs> you have some ancient linedraw rendering engine 2016-07-30T13:55:49 < dongs> and some opengl based one 2016-07-30T13:55:56 < dongs> opengl one is not even default 2016-07-30T13:55:59 < dongs> or built / enabled by default 2016-07-30T13:56:05 < dongs> but the linedraw one hasnt been updated since 2001 2016-07-30T13:56:12 < upgrdman_> dongs, lets people use old designs with breaking the fuck 2016-07-30T13:56:13 < dongs> new poeple who download kikecad look at it and delete it 2016-07-30T13:56:17 < dongs> get out 2016-07-30T13:56:22 < dongs> why does new render break shit 2016-07-30T13:56:25 < dongs> it shouldnt 2016-07-30T13:56:42 < upgrdman_> e.g. i have a lotus elise s2 i modeled in 2004 and it will still render properly 2016-07-30T13:56:56 < dongs> i would fucking hope so 2016-07-30T13:57:04 < dongs> i have an altium pcb from protel99 2016-07-30T13:57:06 < dongs> and itr renders properly 2016-07-30T13:57:15 < upgrdman_> cpumvs gpu rendering wont be dixel perfect matches 2016-07-30T13:57:25 < upgrdman_> cpu vs... 2016-07-30T13:57:59 < upgrdman_> anyway, the default renderer is the new,good one 2016-07-30T13:58:20 < upgrdman_> gpu AND multicore cpu iirc 2016-07-30T13:59:44 < ReadError> dongs you got the bash for windows yet m8? 2016-07-30T14:00:38 < dongs> Windows 10 (Multiple Editions), Version 1511 (Updated Apr 2016) New! 2016-07-30T14:00:44 < dongs> still nothing to download 2016-07-30T14:01:06 < upgrdman_> wuts the good samsung ssd, 950? 2016-07-30T14:01:09 < ReadError> oh figured an ole lunix head such as yourself would have been in the beta 2016-07-30T14:01:18 < dongs> upgrdman_: yea 2016-07-30T14:01:26 < dongs> m2 version of courser. 2016-07-30T14:01:31 < ReadError> upgrdman_ they work but nothing super special 2016-07-30T14:01:31 < upgrdman_> ya 2016-07-30T14:01:40 < dongs> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/06/29/windows-10-anniversary-update-available-august-2/ 2016-07-30T14:01:52 < ReadError> dongs yea i think ill camp out for it 2016-07-30T14:01:54 < upgrdman_> readerror, something better per dollar? 2016-07-30T14:02:00 < ReadError> upgrdman_ nah its fine 2016-07-30T14:02:03 < ReadError> i have one 2016-07-30T14:02:19 < dongs> im installing it when its out 2016-07-30T14:02:27 < dongs> and finally putting in my 950pro 256gb 2016-07-30T14:02:42 < dongs> didnt wanna put a new drive in with old os 2016-07-30T14:02:44 < PeterM> upgrdman_ is jsut doing SMF and Maya work for a bit of extra cash and needs the extra horsepower, right upgrdman_? 2016-07-30T14:02:46 < upgrdman_> how much is the 950 1tb? 2016-07-30T14:02:48 < dongs> so its still somewehre on my desk 2016-07-30T14:02:49 < PeterM> *SFM 2016-07-30T14:02:56 < dongs> lol 1tb 2016-07-30T14:02:57 < dongs> teh fuck for 2016-07-30T14:03:05 < upgrdman_> games, bro 2016-07-30T14:03:11 < dongs> games dont need SSD 2016-07-30T14:03:19 < upgrdman_> im impatient 2016-07-30T14:03:19 < dongs> put that shit on gigabit ethernet on some spinnin rust 2016-07-30T14:03:32 < ReadError> dongs what package you going to aids-get install first?? 2016-07-30T14:03:41 < upgrdman_> gige is too slow. usb3 hdd is like 2gbit 2016-07-30T14:03:43 < dongs> no idea watcha talkin about 2016-07-30T14:03:50 < ReadError> I need to move my nic over to the intel one, on the stupid realtek crap now 2016-07-30T14:04:07 < ReadError> apt-get install curl 2016-07-30T14:04:18 < upgrdman_> peterm, no lol, i never got good with 3d, but i wanna get back to it for fun 2016-07-30T14:04:39 < ReadError> upgrdman_ get a 3d printer and go full maker 2016-07-30T14:04:45 < upgrdman_> maybe even 3d dick some parts if i feel super maker ish 2016-07-30T14:04:50 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-30T14:04:55 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-07-30T14:05:15 < ReadError> shit ur in the 3d printer shithole of the world 2016-07-30T14:05:17 < ReadError> swag up 2016-07-30T14:07:02 < upgrdman_> my old 2004 blender project, from when i was a high school kid... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGpyoNChaXE 2016-07-30T14:07:33 < dongs> With the Xbox Play Anywhere program, you can buy a game once and play on your Windows 10 PC and Xbox One with shared progress, shared game saves and shared achievements. Every new title published from Microsoft Studios that we showed onstage at E3 this year will support Xbox Play Anywhere and will be easily accessible in the Windows Store. 2016-07-30T14:07:50 < ReadError> not bad 2016-07-30T14:08:02 < ReadError> never cared much for the artsy modeling 2016-07-30T14:08:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.17] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T14:08:44 < ReadError> but functional stuff I can make, Im game (print, lathe, route, mill, laser, hotwire) 2016-07-30T14:09:27 < upgrdman_> cool 2016-07-30T14:09:44 < dongs> hm 2016-07-30T14:09:51 < dongs> i would have thought win10 august would be on msdn already 2016-07-30T14:09:54 < dongs> thats actually kinda shit 2016-07-30T14:10:00 < ReadError> it was up 2016-07-30T14:10:09 < dongs> was? then wehre did it go 2016-07-30T14:10:11 < ReadError> i did the shit they said to get the update but it never shows up 2016-07-30T14:10:18 < ReadError> said enable developer 2016-07-30T14:10:21 < ReadError> then check for updates 2016-07-30T14:10:28 < dongs> its not listed on downloads 2016-07-30T14:10:35 < ReadError> but at one point it was 2016-07-30T14:10:39 < ReadError> bunch of people got it 2016-07-30T14:11:37 < dongs> url 2016-07-30T14:11:40 < dongs> man google sucks 2016-07-30T14:11:51 < dongs> its useless for actualyl finding anything useful 2016-07-30T14:11:55 < ReadError> the guide is on ms blog 2016-07-30T14:12:00 < dongs> thats beta. 2016-07-30T14:12:20 < dongs> http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-isos-will-available-august-2nd-well 2016-07-30T14:13:47 < ReadError> http://www.winbeta.org/news/next-windows-10-insider-build-14393-31-huge-leap-forward-14393-5 2016-07-30T14:13:53 < ReadError> lol hype CHOOO CHOOO 2016-07-30T14:15:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-30T14:19:33 < dongs> wot 2016-07-30T14:19:36 < dongs> thats beta trash yea 2016-07-30T14:19:42 < dongs> ill just wait till aug2, im busy anyway 2016-07-30T14:19:58 < ReadError> curious about all these huge fixes 2016-07-30T14:20:21 < ReadError> also why are they wasting time on mobile stuff still 2016-07-30T14:20:29 < ReadError> does anybody actually use it 2016-07-30T14:37:38 < dongs> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airvolt-charging-smartphones-from-radio-waves-charger#/ lol 2016-07-30T14:39:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:01:14 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:b9ac:b6a2:19e1:12cc] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:02:51 < dongs> wait so 2016-07-30T15:02:55 < dongs> xboxone runs windows 10? lol 2016-07-30T15:03:56 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:b9ac:b6a2:19e1:12cc] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-30T15:04:54 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:b9ac:b6a2:19e1:12cc] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:05:26 -!- AndChat29841 [~AndChat29@2604:6000:cb00:4300:b9ac:b6a2:19e1:12cc] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-30T15:10:36 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:19:36 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:19:46 < Tectu_> dongs, emergency ping 2016-07-30T15:20:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-30T15:20:11 < dongs> dongs 2016-07-30T15:20:28 < ReadError> hes gonna axe how to say something in jap 2016-07-30T15:20:36 < ReadError> to try and pick up some chick 2016-07-30T15:20:44 < Tectu_> I woke up today, booted my workstation and now my VMware Workstation 12 Pro shit is broken. None of my VMs can grab mouse/keyboard anymore 2016-07-30T15:20:47 < Tectu_> dongs ^ 2016-07-30T15:20:54 < Tectu_> any ideas? 2016-07-30T15:20:54 < dongs> huh 2016-07-30T15:20:57 < Fleck> lol 2016-07-30T15:21:01 < Tectu_> I rebooted shit like 100 times 2016-07-30T15:21:03 < Tectu_> (3) 2016-07-30T15:21:07 < ReadError> uhhh 2016-07-30T15:21:08 < dongs> odd, but other than reinstalling it and installing that keyboard/house hook driver thing 2016-07-30T15:21:12 < dongs> wehn it asks 2016-07-30T15:21:23 < ReadError> reinstall vmware tools on the guest maybe 2016-07-30T15:21:25 < Tectu_> dongs, you mean VMware tools? it fails even before that VMware tools would be loaded. 2016-07-30T15:21:27 < ReadError> is it all guest? 2016-07-30T15:21:33 < Tectu_> ReadError, yes 2016-07-30T15:21:34 < ReadError> force it to boot to bios 2016-07-30T15:21:37 < ReadError> see if it works there 2016-07-30T15:21:51 < Tectu_> ReadError, I have a few guests that boot to BIOS and two that boot to EFI, both types show the problem 2016-07-30T15:22:19 < Tectu_> according to the workstation the input is grabbed because it shows the "Ctrl+Alt to ungrab" message in the statusbar 2016-07-30T15:22:41 < ReadError> try this 2016-07-30T15:22:42 < Tectu_> the weirdest shit is that when I press the windows key, the windows start menu of my host shows up, during that time, guests successfully get input events 2016-07-30T15:22:46 < ReadError> when its grabbed 2016-07-30T15:22:56 < ReadError> click an icon in your taskbar 2016-07-30T15:23:00 < ReadError> the ones by the clock 2016-07-30T15:23:02 < ReadError> then start typing 2016-07-30T15:23:14 < ReadError> see if it directs input to guest 2016-07-30T15:23:24 < Tectu_> ReadError, which taskbar? 2016-07-30T15:23:30 < ReadError> your host one 2016-07-30T15:23:32 < ReadError> main OS 2016-07-30T15:24:48 < Tectu_> ReadError, yeah, that's what I just typed above: When I hit the windows key (even if my guest is fullscreen), the start menu of my host shows up. during that time, guests get input. I can even hit the windows key a 2nd time and I see how my guests start menu shows up. Then I hide the one from the host and shit is broken again 2016-07-30T15:24:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-30T15:24:54 < Tectu_> as in: guets don't get input events anymore 2016-07-30T15:25:10 < ReadError> ehh 2016-07-30T15:25:15 < ReadError> exit out 2016-07-30T15:25:20 < ReadError> uninstall 2016-07-30T15:25:29 < ReadError> reinstall, re-add guest 2016-07-30T15:25:33 < ReadError> something is fucked 2016-07-30T15:25:41 < Tectu_> c'mon, it's saturday... I have hobbys man 2016-07-30T15:25:46 < Tectu_> yeah, something is seriuosly fucked 2016-07-30T15:25:54 < ReadError> well its a 3 minute job 2016-07-30T15:26:05 < Tectu_> btw, if I hit the "send ctrl+alt+delete to this VM" key in the VM bar, the guest receives that. 2016-07-30T15:26:05 < ReadError> you have that amazing pci-e ssd 2016-07-30T15:26:11 < ReadError> it should take you 70 seconds 2016-07-30T15:26:32 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:26:42 < Tectu_> I think I'm gonna try rebooting one more time 2016-07-30T15:26:49 < Tectu_> when that doesn't fork I'll reinstall :< 2016-07-30T15:30:04 < Tectu_> damn, I need 10GB ethernet. moving a 100 GB VM to my file server takes way too long 2016-07-30T15:30:38 < dongs> hahaha 2016-07-30T15:30:42 < dongs> chatting to this chick on freecancer 2016-07-30T15:31:42 < Tectu_> ReadError, PCIe SSD doesn't help to move stuff across gigabit ethernet :p 2016-07-30T15:31:53 < dongs> "we have 128 encoders" 2016-07-30T15:32:02 < dongs> "the previous engineer used 128 attiny84 to scan t hem" 2016-07-30T15:33:01 < Tectu_> what. 2016-07-30T15:33:11 < Tectu_> what type of encoder are we talking about? 2016-07-30T15:33:30 < dongs> like rotary encoder. 2016-07-30T15:33:31 < dongs> you know 2016-07-30T15:33:32 < dongs> a knob 2016-07-30T15:33:36 < Tectu_> -__- 2016-07-30T15:34:00 < Tectu_> better use 128 Stratix then 2016-07-30T15:34:28 < dongs> "he used arduino uno board and 128 attiny 84" 2016-07-30T15:34:41 < Tectu_> dongs, tell her that you'd love to play with her knobs 2016-07-30T15:34:49 < dongs> yea i totally am 2016-07-30T15:34:52 < dongs> they're like 2016-07-30T15:34:55 < dongs> "the board is 1x1meter 2016-07-30T15:35:01 < Tectu_> can you get a pic? 2016-07-30T15:35:08 < dongs> of the girl? 2016-07-30T15:35:09 < dongs> or pcb 2016-07-30T15:35:13 < Tectu_> both 2016-07-30T15:35:21 < Tectu_> ask for pcb first though 2016-07-30T15:35:43 < dongs> holy shit 2016-07-30T15:35:48 < dongs> they're all I2C addressable 2016-07-30T15:35:50 < dongs> 128 devices. 2016-07-30T15:37:32 < dongs> this is like your typical kickstarter 2016-07-30T15:41:38 < Tectu_> reboot time. 2016-07-30T15:41:41 -!- Tectu_ [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-30T15:43:46 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/kE3Bpd4.png 2016-07-30T15:44:49 < dongs> crt: welcome to kickstarter http://i.imgur.com/kE3Bpd4.png 2016-07-30T15:44:54 < dongs> can someone id what shitty software draw that schematic 2016-07-30T15:44:56 < dongs> is taht fritzing 2016-07-30T15:45:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:46:00 < dongs> Tectu: you missed it 2016-07-30T15:46:07 < Laurenceb__> lul avr 2016-07-30T15:46:13 < Tectu> dongs, relink pls 2016-07-30T15:46:17 < dongs> < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/kE3Bpd4.png 2016-07-30T15:46:23 < dongs> Laurenceb__: can you imagine hatebus issues 2016-07-30T15:46:25 < dongs> wiht 128 devices on it 2016-07-30T15:46:29 < dongs> without any kind active buffers 2016-07-30T15:46:29 < dongs> lol 2016-07-30T15:46:35 < Laurenceb__> lul funtimes 2016-07-30T15:46:37 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-30T15:46:41 < dongs> spread around 1x1 meter block 2016-07-30T15:46:45 < Tectu> thanks for sharing dongs 2016-07-30T15:46:49 < Tectu> got some real-world footage? 2016-07-30T15:46:59 < Laurenceb__> kickstarter link? 2016-07-30T15:46:59 < dongs> i hope they'll fly me over there 2016-07-30T15:47:02 < dongs> with a scope 2016-07-30T15:47:08 < dongs> so I can lol @ rising edges 2016-07-30T15:47:59 < Tectu> better set horizontal div to 1/100ms 2016-07-30T15:48:10 < ReadError> to china? 2016-07-30T15:48:14 < dongs> singapoor 2016-07-30T15:48:29 < Tectu> dongs, is your task to fix it or to make a new one? 2016-07-30T15:48:43 < dongs> tectu, currently my task is to chat with teh chick and get free tix to singapore 2016-07-30T15:49:03 < ReadError> Tectu I think prostitution is legal in singapore 2016-07-30T15:49:04 < dongs> but yea, i wouldn't even touch it really with current design 2016-07-30T15:49:04 < Tectu> I bet you can stay at her place to save hotel costs 2016-07-30T15:49:15 < dongs> I suppose I could stick some buffers there 2016-07-30T15:49:21 < dongs> like put i2c buffer on front of each 8x block 2016-07-30T15:49:27 < dongs> and one behind uno 2016-07-30T15:49:28 < dongs> but lol.. 2016-07-30T15:49:36 < Tectu> what kind of application is this? 128 knobs? 2016-07-30T15:49:41 < dongs> yeah basically 2016-07-30T15:49:41 < ReadError> hows that work if you have multiple things encoding 2016-07-30T15:49:44 < Tectu> sounds semi-pro 2016-07-30T15:49:53 < ReadError> on the same shit 2016-07-30T15:49:54 < dongs> 128 knobs on a 1x1 desk , they juts wanna scan each knob and color it. 2016-07-30T15:50:06 < Tectu> art project? 2016-07-30T15:50:06 < dongs> ReadError: its ez to scan them all with shift registers + spi 2016-07-30T15:50:26 < dongs> i think some UI research shit 2016-07-30T15:50:28 < dongs> its some uni 2016-07-30T15:50:32 < Tectu> -__- 2016-07-30T15:50:45 < Tectu> well, arduino was made for that shit, so can't really blame them 2016-07-30T15:50:48 < ReadError> just reading the position and updating in a loop? 2016-07-30T15:51:04 < Tectu> this sounds FPGA worthy 2016-07-30T15:51:13 < dongs> no way, shift regs is totally fine for this 2016-07-30T15:51:14 < ReadError> guess it depends on what kind of encoder output they have 2016-07-30T15:51:22 < dongs> just shift in enca/encb pins for all of them 2016-07-30T15:51:29 < dongs> and then loop through and update state for each thing 2016-07-30T15:51:34 < dongs> i did it for 8 before, ez 2016-07-30T15:51:37 < dongs> and dont n eed to debounce 2016-07-30T15:51:39 < dongs> super pro 2016-07-30T15:51:44 < Tectu> reinstalling workstation now 2016-07-30T15:52:04 < Tectu> reboot much 2016-07-30T15:52:06 < Tectu> cu folkso/ 2016-07-30T15:52:09 < Laurenceb__> We all should indeed post on 8chan 24 hours per day 2016-07-30T15:52:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-30T15:52:17 < Laurenceb__> Having any hobbies is degenerate and just a tool employed by the jews 2016-07-30T15:52:22 < Laurenceb__> ^how to troll 8chan 2016-07-30T15:52:29 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ crt said he would like to become a wizard 2016-07-30T15:52:38 < Laurenceb__> I'm not sure it works like that 2016-07-30T15:52:39 < ReadError> teach him the ways 2016-07-30T15:52:45 < Laurenceb__> unless you are a grrrl 2016-07-30T15:53:02 < ReadError> you can help him preserve his wizardry 2016-07-30T15:53:08 < ReadError> see, hes already doing it 2016-07-30T15:58:41 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T15:58:57 < Tectu> dongs, ReadError, reinstalled workstation pro, purged all settings and stuff, issue remainz 2016-07-30T15:59:11 < Tectu> please help, can't use my porn VM 2016-07-30T15:59:21 < ReadError> *shrug* 2016-07-30T15:59:27 < ReadError> works here 2016-07-30T15:59:29 < Tectu> no but seriously, wtf. My guests get the input as long as the start menu on my host is visible 2016-07-30T15:59:32 < Laurenceb__> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1469858840765.jpg 2016-07-30T15:59:32 < ReadError> uhm 2016-07-30T15:59:33 < Tectu> used to work here too 2016-07-30T15:59:48 < ReadError> enable verbose logging? 2016-07-30T15:59:50 < Laurenceb__> i installed ubuntu on ivybridge i7 laptop 2016-07-30T15:59:51 < ReadError> and peep that 2016-07-30T15:59:55 < Laurenceb__> sounds wizard tier 2016-07-30T16:01:09 < Laurenceb__> http://media.veryfunnypics.eu/2012/07/funny-picture-back-off-ladies-you-should-never-take-our-virginity.jpg 2016-07-30T16:01:46 < Tectu> ReadError, peep? 2016-07-30T16:02:25 < ReadError> look at 2016-07-30T16:02:35 < Tectu> stop gang talk 2016-07-30T16:02:43 < Tectu> this is not detroit 2016-07-30T16:02:50 < ReadError> if you had bash on windows 10 you could tail -f it 2016-07-30T16:02:58 < ReadError> on the flyyyyy 2016-07-30T16:03:21 < Tectu> Workstation 12 Pro 2016-07-30T16:03:21 < Tectu> Leading Edge PC Virtualization. 2016-07-30T16:03:24 < Tectu> thanks VMware. 2016-07-30T16:03:25 < Laurenceb__> gang talk lulwut 2016-07-30T16:03:36 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ gangster words like 'peep' 2016-07-30T16:03:39 < Laurenceb__> the linux gang, shooting windows users 2016-07-30T16:03:48 < Laurenceb__> I didnt even know that was gangster lul 2016-07-30T16:04:26 < englishman> The FarmBot robot kit ships with an Arduino Mega 2560, Raspberry Pi 2 Model B, disassembled hardware packages and access to the open-source software community. 2016-07-30T16:04:31 < englishman> triggered 2016-07-30T16:04:49 < Laurenceb__> lul triggering and safe spaces are spreading 2016-07-30T16:05:09 < Laurenceb__> /r/the_donald and /r/emdrive are now self described safe spaces 2016-07-30T16:05:17 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/SOG-Specialty-Knives-PD02N-CP-Multi-Tool/dp/B00AMJKFEA/ 2016-07-30T16:05:22 < englishman> so is ##stm32 2016-07-30T16:05:27 < Laurenceb__> -CP- 2016-07-30T16:05:39 < Tectu> stop 2016-07-30T16:05:42 < Tectu> Mr. crt is confused 2016-07-30T16:05:45 < Tectu> intervention. 2016-07-30T16:05:50 < Tectu> crt, we all care much about you 2016-07-30T16:07:22 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/SOG-Specialty-Knives-PD02N-CP-Multi-Tool/dp/B00AMJKFEA/ or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000XU9NXW/ref=psdc_553990_t3_B00AMJKFEA 2016-07-30T16:07:26 < ReadError> which 2016-07-30T16:07:33 < Tectu> ReadError, stop dicking around and get my shit fixed man 2016-07-30T16:07:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T16:07:54 < ReadError> Tectu did u do what I said? 2016-07-30T16:08:00 < Tectu> no 2016-07-30T16:08:02 < Tectu> of course not 2016-07-30T16:08:09 < ReadError> then puckoff 2016-07-30T16:08:09 < Tectu> still looking for the option 2016-07-30T16:08:15 < ReadError> its uhhh 2016-07-30T16:08:24 < ReadError> u have to shut it down first 2016-07-30T16:09:02 < Tectu> I'm gunna shut u down bro if this shit ain't not working in 10 minutes 2016-07-30T16:09:11 < Tectu> so logging is a per VM setting? 2016-07-30T16:09:28 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/V8mEWA6.jpg 2016-07-30T16:09:31 < ReadError> yes 2016-07-30T16:10:12 < Tectu> Log: (not powered on) -__- 2016-07-30T16:11:17 < dongs> < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/V8mEWA6.jpg 2016-07-30T16:11:18 < dongs> ll 2016-07-30T16:11:18 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/Ufyrrgu.png 2016-07-30T16:11:59 < Tectu> trying... 2016-07-30T16:12:18 < ReadError> lol you just click the dropdown 2016-07-30T16:12:22 < ReadError> and change it 2016-07-30T16:12:29 < ReadError> there shouldnt be any effort involved 2016-07-30T16:12:41 < Tectu> yes but one has to boot the crap afterwards :p 2016-07-30T16:13:28 < Tectu> I love that I can log into the VM as long as my host's start menu is showing... 2016-07-30T16:13:29 < Tectu> seriously 2016-07-30T16:13:35 < Tectu> wtf is that for a symptom 2016-07-30T16:14:02 < Tectu> all I did is shutting everything down, going to sleep, waking up, booting shit 2016-07-30T16:14:39 < Tectu> lol, now it appears to be working, ReadError. All I did is enabling debugg loggin 2016-07-30T16:14:42 < ReadError> ehhh did you check your event viewer 2016-07-30T16:14:47 < ReadError> lol 2016-07-30T16:15:01 < ReadError> maybe it regenerated your vmx file idk 2016-07-30T16:15:11 < Tectu> nah man, this is not some silly setting 2016-07-30T16:15:15 < Tectu> this is some bug thing 2016-07-30T16:15:24 < Tectu> I mean seriously, it works when the host's start menu is showing 2016-07-30T16:15:26 < Tectu> always. 2016-07-30T16:15:44 < ReadError> thanks obama 2016-07-30T16:16:21 < Tectu> lol it puts a lot of shit into logfiles 2016-07-30T16:16:28 < Tectu> not sure if one should even share those so much stuff is in there 2016-07-30T16:16:30 < dongs> yeah it does 2016-07-30T16:16:34 < Tectu> it's like 500kb per minute 2016-07-30T16:18:02 < Tectu> I'm gonna try to reboot and stuff 2016-07-30T16:18:09 < ReadError> usb protection ideas w/o a big Vdrop under current? 2016-07-30T16:18:19 < Tectu> TVS? 2016-07-30T16:18:22 < dongs> use the IC for it 2016-07-30T16:18:26 < dongs> there's USB current limiting switch thing 2016-07-30T16:18:39 < ReadError> ehh yea saw but wasnt sure if i should trust fully 2016-07-30T16:18:42 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/paramsearch/docs/parametricsearch.tsp?family=analog&familyId=524&uiTemplateId=NODE_STRY_PGE_T 2016-07-30T16:18:47 < dongs> woirks fine 2016-07-30T16:18:50 < dongs> lots of mobos and shit use those 2016-07-30T16:19:21 < ReadError> oh nm i thought you meant the one internal to the part im using 2016-07-30T16:19:40 < Tectu> ReadError, doesn't work anymore. all I did is rebooting the guest 2016-07-30T16:19:55 < ReadError> Tectu event viewer and the vmware.log 2016-07-30T16:20:00 < ReadError> look around 2016-07-30T16:20:03 < Tectu> what am I looking for? 2016-07-30T16:20:08 < Tectu> it's like auschwitz in there 2016-07-30T16:20:09 < ReadError> idk 2016-07-30T16:20:49 < Tectu> wut. now it works if I use the "show the host's startup menu to login" trick. After login it works as expected 2016-07-30T16:20:51 < Tectu> WHAT IS HAPPENING 2016-07-30T16:21:03 < Tectu> Did somebody put LSD in my drink? 2016-07-30T16:23:27 < dongs> err wat 2016-07-30T16:23:28 < dongs> tectu 2016-07-30T16:23:30 < dongs> did you enable some unity aids 2016-07-30T16:23:31 < dongs> or something 2016-07-30T16:23:34 < dongs> what hte fuck are you doing 2016-07-30T16:23:34 < Tectu> no 2016-07-30T16:23:46 < Tectu> nothing man, I am using it like I have been using it every day since exactly 30 days 2016-07-30T16:26:30 < Tectu> now I started a second VM and it's broken again 2016-07-30T16:28:16 < Tectu> why is this happening -_- 2016-07-30T16:28:38 < ReadError> this is on windows?? 2016-07-30T16:28:41 < Tectu> yes 2016-07-30T16:28:43 < dongs> of course 2016-07-30T16:28:48 < dongs> why would you run vmware anywhere e lse 2016-07-30T16:28:51 < Tectu> windows host, windows & linux guests 2016-07-30T16:29:43 < ReadError> idk sounds like you broke something 2016-07-30T16:30:33 < upgrdman_> lol. just went to dinner by myself. was seating next to a cn coupple. girl spent the entire time talking to me, wanting to practice english. boyfriend looked obviously hurt and pissed from lack of attention. 2016-07-30T16:31:09 < ReadError> cblock 2016-07-30T16:31:17 < Tectu> that's why I never reboot my crap. Haven't rebootet this machine for two weeks 2016-07-30T16:31:21 < upgrdman_> she even friended me on wechat, the bfriend looked pissed 2016-07-30T16:31:39 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-30T16:31:47 < Tectu> also, the fuck is wechat? 2016-07-30T16:31:51 < BrainDamage> just bang her already 2016-07-30T16:32:16 < upgrdman_> fuck. this must be why ive been lonely in cn. i always dinnered with coworkers. should have been dinnering alone 2016-07-30T16:32:28 < BrainDamage> china pretty much reinvent social networks 2016-07-30T16:32:30 < upgrdman_> tectu, wechat is asia facebook 2016-07-30T16:32:31 < Tectu> are you temporary in cn? 2016-07-30T16:32:35 < dongs> upgrdman_: lool 2016-07-30T16:32:36 < upgrdman_> ya 2016-07-30T16:32:37 < Tectu> ah 2016-07-30T16:32:38 < dongs> white power 2016-07-30T16:32:54 < upgrdman_> but fuck me, cause i leave cn in 2 days 2016-07-30T16:33:05 < Tectu> you gotta be quick bro 2016-07-30T16:33:09 < upgrdman_> ya 2016-07-30T16:33:32 < Tectu> also, don't piss of random boyfriends. it's not nice. 2016-07-30T16:33:36 < Tectu> get your own girls 2016-07-30T16:33:36 < upgrdman_> she said shed msg me tomorrow and give me a tour of qibao 2016-07-30T16:33:39 < Tectu> stop being handsome and shit 2016-07-30T16:33:47 < Tectu> she must really hate her boyfriend 2016-07-30T16:33:47 < dongs> hahaah 2016-07-30T16:33:51 < Tectu> are you sure it's not just her brother? 2016-07-30T16:33:52 < dongs> upgrdman_ failed to get laid for a month 2016-07-30T16:34:01 < dongs> then finalyl scores 2 days before laving 2016-07-30T16:34:05 < dongs> just tell them to extend your stay 2016-07-30T16:34:07 < upgrdman_> tectu, hmm maybe. 2016-07-30T16:34:13 < dongs> say you newfoundlove for NXP/LPC 2016-07-30T16:34:14 < Tectu> dongs, ReadError, shit is working again 2016-07-30T16:34:30 < Tectu> or rather put her in your suitcase 2016-07-30T16:34:35 < Tectu> that's how zyp would do it at least 2016-07-30T16:34:35 < upgrdman_> dongs, cant. cn visa limit is 60 days. 1000cny fine on first violation 2016-07-30T16:34:40 < dongs> oh right 2016-07-30T16:34:50 < dongs> but thats like $150bux 2016-07-30T16:34:50 < Tectu> how much is 1000cny in real money? 2016-07-30T16:34:59 < dongs> price of a nice dinner 2016-07-30T16:35:01 < dongs> probly not in .cn tho 2016-07-30T16:35:04 < upgrdman_> 150usd ish 2016-07-30T16:35:10 < Tectu> or half a prostitute. so it might be a good deal 2016-07-30T16:35:33 < ReadError> cuckbucks 2016-07-30T16:35:38 < dongs> prety sure prostitutes are cheaper than that in cn 2016-07-30T16:35:52 < Tectu> can't get them for < 300.- in ch 2016-07-30T16:35:57 < upgrdman_> ya but my boss wont change my flight so i can date a local 2016-07-30T16:36:39 < Tectu> ReadError, dongs you know what fixed it? uninstalling synergy on host. I installed that about a week ago for using this mac mini aids shit. haven't rebooted my windows vmware host since then. it fucks stuff up. 2016-07-30T16:36:45 < dongs> oh LOLLLLLLLLLLLL 2016-07-30T16:36:49 < dongs> yeah dude 2016-07-30T16:36:50 < Tectu> yeah :D 2016-07-30T16:37:07 < upgrdman_> wuts synergy 2016-07-30T16:37:16 < dongs> virtual kvm 2016-07-30T16:37:23 < dongs> one keyboard/mouse for a bunch of computers 2016-07-30T16:37:30 < ReadError> bish pls 2016-07-30T16:37:35 < ReadError> im using synergy and vmware 2016-07-30T16:37:41 < ReadError> works fine 2016-07-30T16:37:48 < Tectu> ReadError, so did I until tomorrow. All I did is rebooting my host 2016-07-30T16:37:59 < Tectu> now I uninstalled synergy and crap works again 2016-07-30T16:38:06 < Tectu> I even got synergy pro like a pro 2016-07-30T16:38:41 < Tectu> time to reboot host to ensure that shit works again 2016-07-30T16:38:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-30T16:39:56 < upgrdman_> is that what crt wants 2016-07-30T16:40:45 < upgrdman_> when i get my gaming rig, i'll have to do a cloth sim in blender with a giant model of dick or some tits 2016-07-30T16:42:16 < upgrdman_> you live in the middle of a highway? 2016-07-30T16:42:45 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T16:42:57 < Tectu> ReadError, dongs, stuff seams to be working well again. definitely synergy crap 2016-07-30T16:43:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-30T16:50:30 < Tectu> upgrdman_, btw, I finally got my methlab back 2016-07-30T16:51:25 < upgrdman_> tectu, how many dicks did you have to suck 2016-07-30T16:52:12 < ReadError> heh they take some glassware? 2016-07-30T16:53:34 < Tectu> "In compliance with your License's Terms and Conditions, you should wait 12 months after the first machine transfer to have this count reset." 2016-07-30T16:53:46 < Tectu> what kind of shitty license tells me how many times I can reinstall ON THE SAME MACHINE per time unit 2016-07-30T16:53:57 < Tectu> especially because they have a service where you can manually deactivate an active license 2016-07-30T16:54:00 < Tectu> I still don't get that shit 2016-07-30T16:54:03 < Tectu> gives me aids, seriously 2016-07-30T16:54:29 < BrainDamage> switch to octave :J 2016-07-30T16:54:33 < upgrdman_> ya thats when id stop paying and just crack.exe it 2016-07-30T16:54:44 < ReadError> .torrent that shit 2016-07-30T16:55:07 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T16:55:07 < Tectu> there's no replacement for Simulink. 2016-07-30T16:55:36 < upgrdman_> whats simulick 2016-07-30T16:55:51 < BrainDamage> gui thing where you chain abstract blocks and it can analyze them 2016-07-30T16:55:59 < Tectu> well, it's multi-domain 2016-07-30T16:56:00 < BrainDamage> or use as signal processor 2016-07-30T16:56:16 -!- chuckmcm [~quassel@50.247.73.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-30T16:56:35 < Tectu> you can make simulations of entire systems that includes mathematics, signal processing, control crap, electric models, hydraulics, pneumatics... all in the same simulation 2016-07-30T16:56:53 < upgrdman_> nice 2016-07-30T16:56:54 -!- chuckmcm [~quassel@50.247.73.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T16:58:42 < Tectu> you should show that to your new girlfriend 2016-07-30T16:59:08 < upgrdman_> rite 2016-07-30T17:01:51 < Tectu> thanks for helping, dongs and ReadError 2016-07-30T17:06:09 < dongs> haha 2016-07-30T17:30:38 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.237] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T17:36:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-30T17:54:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-30T18:06:50 < dongs> heh 2016-07-30T18:06:57 < dongs> just noticed the leds in that thing are directly connected to 5V 2016-07-30T18:07:13 < dongs> at least they're on PWM pins so I hope the pakilancer is driving them with super low duty 2016-07-30T18:07:43 < dongs> how does a led work with 5V in and like super low pwm duty? 2016-07-30T18:13:50 < dongs> http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/51798/can-leds-or-optocouplers-be-used-without-a-resistor-if-pwm-is-used 2016-07-30T18:13:55 < dongs> dicks exchange to the rescue 2016-07-30T18:14:01 < dongs> bedtime 2016-07-30T18:16:49 < BrainDamage> not without something to slow down the peaks 2016-07-30T18:16:56 < BrainDamage> like an LC filter 2016-07-30T18:17:09 < BrainDamage> but at that point, you've built a buck converter DCDC 2016-07-30T18:17:23 < BrainDamage> ( literally ) 2016-07-30T18:18:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-30T18:21:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T18:22:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T18:28:35 -!- sockofleas [18be55be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.190.85.190] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T18:33:39 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-30T18:48:42 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-07-30T18:49:55 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T18:54:33 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T19:04:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.93] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T19:40:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-30T20:05:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.129.24.155] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T20:06:48 < Rob235> herro 2016-07-30T20:08:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T20:11:11 < ReadError> u flyin high yet m8 2016-07-30T20:12:46 < Rob235> I've been lazy the past few days 2016-07-30T20:13:41 < Rob235> and reading about USB which is a pain in the ass 2016-07-30T20:16:08 < ReadError> gotta hit that trifecta 2016-07-30T20:16:22 < ReadError> take off from atleast a mile high 2016-07-30T20:16:25 < ReadError> fly a mile high 2016-07-30T20:16:32 < ReadError> all right after ripping a gram 2016-07-30T20:17:04 < Rob235> heh 2016-07-30T20:17:34 < Rob235> my first flight I don't plan on going above 2 feet off the ground :) 2016-07-30T20:18:17 < Rob235> if it starts to move i'll get scared and flick the cutoff switch 2016-07-30T20:18:29 < ReadError> ground effect brother 2016-07-30T20:18:35 < ReadError> you want to get above that 2016-07-30T20:18:41 < Rob235> yea I know, I'm just playing 2016-07-30T20:19:04 < ReadError> make a pcb too 2016-07-30T20:19:10 < ReadError> much more reliable 2016-07-30T20:22:38 < Rob235> maybe i'll work on designing that today... I originally was going to make a shield for the discovery board, then I wanted to wait until I could just put everything including the stm32 onto one pcb but I don't know what kind of equipment you need for that. the shield is probably a good place to start, still big but reliable 2016-07-30T20:23:06 < ReadError> shit just find a f4 board similar 2016-07-30T20:23:18 < ReadError> the airbot px4 maybe 2016-07-30T20:23:20 < ReadError> quanton 2016-07-30T20:23:22 < ReadError> sparky2 2016-07-30T20:23:26 < ReadError> revo 2016-07-30T20:24:58 < Rob235> hmm, never thought about doing something like that, putting my code on another FC pcb 2016-07-30T20:25:42 < ReadError> the IMU you have now is kinda fugazi anyways 2016-07-30T20:26:36 < ReadError> https://www.fpvheadquarters.com/multirotors/controllers/arducopter/px4miniaio-minipx4-v1-3-flight-controller.html 2016-07-30T20:26:42 < ReadError> holla holla 50 dolla 2016-07-30T20:27:04 < ReadError> featuring the all stars(tm) 2016-07-30T20:27:09 < ReadError> ST Micro L3GD20H 16bit Gyroscope 2016-07-30T20:27:10 < ReadError> HMC5883L Magnetometer 2016-07-30T20:27:10 < ReadError> Invensense MPU 6000 3 Axis Accelerometer/Gyroscope 2016-07-30T20:27:10 < ReadError> MEAS MS5611 Barometer 2016-07-30T20:29:00 < ReadError> http://www.readytoflyquads.com/quanton-flight-control 2016-07-30T20:29:37 < Rob235> hmmm 2016-07-30T20:31:36 < Rob235> it kinda feels like cheating :P 2016-07-30T20:32:11 < Rob235> why 2 gyros? does it not really use the mpu6000 gyro and just the accel? 2016-07-30T20:32:46 < ReadError> can use b oth 2016-07-30T20:32:57 < ReadError> just because 2016-07-30T20:33:30 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T20:33:37 < Rob235> and why does the bno055 suck? 2016-07-30T20:33:53 < ReadError> why is it any good 2016-07-30T20:34:06 < Rob235> well it needs to suck to be worth changing out 2016-07-30T20:34:09 < ReadError> specs compared to anything else on the market seemed less than remarkable 2016-07-30T20:34:17 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-30T20:34:21 < Rob235> compared to the mpu6000? 2016-07-30T20:34:30 < ReadError> yea for one 2016-07-30T20:34:35 < Rob235> thought they were pretty much the same? 2016-07-30T20:34:44 < ReadError> hm no completely diff companies 2016-07-30T20:34:50 < Rob235> i know, but i meant spec wise 2016-07-30T20:35:01 < ReadError> 100hz 2016-07-30T20:35:14 < Rob235> thats with fusion, not sure what raw data rates are 2016-07-30T20:35:20 < Rob235> mpu6000 is 100hz with fusion also 2016-07-30T20:36:10 < ReadError> it all trickles down, faster you can read the sensor data the more time you have for other task 2016-07-30T20:36:32 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T20:36:38 < Rob235> yea but I'm saying they seem the same to me, if I disable fusion on the bno I can probably read raw data just as fast as the mpu 2016-07-30T20:37:30 < Rob235> just like if I enable fusion on the mpu it reads just as slow as the bno 2016-07-30T20:37:48 < ReadError> yea but you keep bring up fusion ->>> nobody uses fusion 2016-07-30T20:38:47 < Rob235> thats what I'm saying though, if I stop using fusion then the bno probably updates just as fast as the mpu, I have to look for specs but Im pretty sure they are the same 2016-07-30T20:39:32 < Rob235> so if they read raw values the same, what would the point be in switching from the bno to something else 2016-07-30T20:39:39 < Steffanx> What's this fusion stuff anyway? it was such a bit selling point for that chip and yet you hardly hear anything about it? 2016-07-30T20:39:47 < Steffanx> *bit = big 2016-07-30T20:40:20 < Rob235> it fuses gyro/accel/mag into stable orientation 2016-07-30T20:40:36 < Rob235> outputs euler angles, quaternion and a bunch of other stuff 2016-07-30T20:40:37 < ReadError> Steffanx I think it was a flop because the licensing or NDA shit 2016-07-30T20:40:46 < ReadError> they restricted access to it 2016-07-30T20:41:11 < Rob235> its like a better version of the dmp on the mpu's 2016-07-30T20:41:23 < Rob235> which doesn't necessarily mean much 2016-07-30T20:41:25 < ReadError> Rob235 but you arent considering i2c vs spi 2016-07-30T20:42:10 < Rob235> well at 100 hz I didn't think that would matter 2016-07-30T20:43:17 < ReadError> yea but you are still comparing like the not ideal way of doing things with another not ideal way 2016-07-30T20:43:20 < Rob235> but if reading raw values and calculating orientation myself then maybe... I dont know man, I'm still pretty new to all this, its hard to know what to choose from the millions of parts available 2016-07-30T20:43:52 < ReadError> how much time do you spend reading sensor + pid shiz 2016-07-30T20:43:57 < ReadError> vs other task 2016-07-30T20:44:45 < Rob235> haven't checked yet, wanted to get everything working together first which I've accomplished, that kind of testing is next 2016-07-30T20:46:39 < ReadError> shouldnt be too hard to figure 2016-07-30T20:46:45 < Rob235> nope, just havent done it yet 2016-07-30T20:48:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-30T20:49:27 < Rob235> hmm, this is for a pretty big hex, update rates probably arent as important as with like a small racing quad, maybe i'll keep the bno for the hex and add support for other stuff when I build a smaller quad.... I already have mpu6500 code but that uses the dmp so Id have to change it 2016-07-30T20:50:00 < ReadError> i wouldnt even touch the hex until shit is vetted on a mini 2016-07-30T20:50:01 < Rob235> i dunno, too much to think about :P 2016-07-30T20:50:21 < ReadError> that hex gets away its going to destroy things/people/itself 2016-07-30T20:50:44 < Rob235> I'll tether it to the ground for a while :) 2016-07-30T20:50:51 < Rob235> nah you are right i'll get something cheap 2016-07-30T20:52:21 < Rob235> I have had it running for 6+ hours without losing any controls and if it loses connection with the radio it shuts off after 2 seconds or so, but I know that doesn't mean shit can't/wont happen 2016-07-30T21:01:09 < Steffanx> shuts of.. you what that? 2016-07-30T21:01:46 < ReadError> Steffanx think he had a systick overflow 2016-07-30T21:01:49 < ReadError> b4 2016-07-30T21:02:08 < Steffanx> totally uncontrolled projectile falling down. 2016-07-30T21:02:23 < Rob235> well I haven't incorporated hover mode yet, so if it doesn't get radio signal then it just tries to level out and sets throttle to like 40% for 2 seconds and if still no signal then it resets to idle mode (out of armed mode) 2016-07-30T21:02:25 < Rob235> which shuts the motors off 2016-07-30T21:02:39 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-30T21:03:02 < Rob235> well if it has no radio signal how can you control it anyway? 2016-07-30T21:03:45 < Steffanx> you could make it not crash, kinda..? 2016-07-30T21:03:50 < Rob235> how? 2016-07-30T21:03:53 < Rob235> hover mode? 2016-07-30T21:03:55 < ReadError> use the sensors 2016-07-30T21:03:59 < ReadError> controlled landing 2016-07-30T21:04:10 < Rob235> I don't have any altitude stuff yet 2016-07-30T21:04:15 < Rob235> pressure and ultrasonic aren't connected yet 2016-07-30T21:04:31 < ReadError> so just set it so z is going down 2016-07-30T21:04:33 < Steffanx> i mean, even a semi-controlled landing, with props at xx % and stable is better then crashing it 2016-07-30T21:04:36 < Steffanx> i mean, for your wallet :P 2016-07-30T21:04:41 < ReadError> then use some kinda bump detection 2016-07-30T21:04:54 < ReadError> altitude not really needed for a half ass attempt 2016-07-30T21:05:17 < Rob235> alright I guess I'll add that before flying 2016-07-30T21:05:22 < Steffanx> but ReadError is the pro, im not :P 2016-07-30T21:05:29 < ReadError> i no pro 2016-07-30T21:05:33 < ReadError> you want to talk to dongs 2016-07-30T21:05:57 < Rob235> dongs doesn't answer anything, he just says everything you do is dumb 2016-07-30T21:05:57 < Steffanx> dongs, is rager. And everything he says seems to be based on 10 yo inof. 2016-07-30T21:06:01 < Steffanx> *info 2016-07-30T21:06:21 < Rob235> but offers no help in the right directiohn 2016-07-30T21:06:25 < ReadError> heres some good info: DAB 2016-07-30T21:06:39 < Steffanx> kinda like r2com, everything he does not like is bad and not professional. 2016-07-30T21:07:05 < Steffanx> dab as in Digital Audio Broadcasting? or the dance or ..? 2016-07-30T21:07:16 < Rob235> or getting high? 2016-07-30T21:07:46 < Rob235> I'm out and am in no rush to pick up, probably get some next week 2016-07-30T21:08:05 < ReadError> http://static.djbooth.net/pics-features/rect/life-death-of-dab-dance.jpg 2016-07-30T21:08:32 < Steffanx> yes, that.. wtf? 2016-07-30T21:10:46 < ReadError> http://www.frostedleaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hash-shatter-1080x675.png 2016-07-30T21:10:47 < ReadError> or that 2016-07-30T21:11:37 < Rob235> thats the good stuff :) 2016-07-30T21:12:14 < Rob235> although annoying to work with 2016-07-30T21:14:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T21:14:56 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-07-30T21:15:05 < Rob235> I'm gonna tether my drone to a cinderblock :) 2016-07-30T21:37:41 < Rob235> heh woops, thought my led flicker problem was due to the signal wire, it was my brightness adjusting code :P 2016-07-30T21:46:40 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T21:47:55 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T21:49:56 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-30T21:55:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-30T21:56:17 < Tectu> ReadError, what versions of workstation and synergy are you using? 2016-07-30T22:05:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T22:16:33 < PaulFertser> R2COM: -std=c++14 2016-07-30T22:17:15 < Tectu> :D 2016-07-30T22:18:01 < PaulFertser> R2COM: :* 2016-07-30T22:18:06 < Steffanx> Hey, nice game you made this time Fleck. but who is that unkind dev? 2016-07-30T22:19:04 < PaulFertser> R2COM: btw, what makes somebody russian? Are you russian or soviet or probably american? 2016-07-30T22:19:33 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-07-30T22:19:33 -!- R2COM was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [R2COM] 2016-07-30T22:19:49 -!- mode/##stm32 [+b *!~R2COM@*.comcast.net] by Steffanx 2016-07-30T22:19:51 -!- R2COM was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [R2COM] 2016-07-30T22:19:58 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-07-30T22:20:40 < Steffanx> Time to learn to be nice. 2016-07-30T22:21:07 < Steffanx> Always joining, asking questions, and being an arse. 2016-07-30T22:21:45 < Tectu> Yeah guys, don't talk to Fleck here on IRC. If you tell him something rude he will put bad stuff in youtube video descriptions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmqP98lWFk 2016-07-30T22:21:48 < PaulFertser> Hm, isn't being an arse is ok here? 2016-07-30T22:22:23 < Fleck> I guess now you know Steffanx... :D 2016-07-30T22:22:40 < PaulFertser> R2COM knows plenty about microwave RF design, we'd miss him if he's not unbanned. 2016-07-30T22:33:15 < Tectu> I'm sure he'll be back 2016-07-30T22:33:29 < Tectu> in the meantime you can help me fixing my shit 2016-07-30T22:35:16 < Rob235> you made that Tectu? nice 2016-07-30T22:35:38 < Tectu> PaulFertser, do you know how hard it would be to write a GDB frontend? 2016-07-30T22:35:41 < Tectu> Rob235, what do you mean? 2016-07-30T22:35:46 < Rob235> the game? 2016-07-30T22:35:48 < Rob235> was that yours? 2016-07-30T22:35:59 < PaulFertser> Tectu: like Eclipse using gdb/mi? 2016-07-30T22:36:21 < Rob235> oh that was fleck? 2016-07-30T22:36:33 < Tectu> Rob235, no, that is Fleck. I am the guy that writes the uGFX library that he's using and I am the guy that answers all his question here no IRC in a query because he doesn't like forums. And because he is sensitive he gets butt hurts easily with things like "don't be a lazy dick" and now he made such a video description. 2016-07-30T22:36:41 < Tectu> PaulFertser, yes. 2016-07-30T22:36:54 < Rob235> ahh :) cool stuff nonetheless 2016-07-30T22:36:59 < Tectu> Rob235, I agree 2016-07-30T22:37:02 < Tectu> Rob235, check out his other games 2016-07-30T22:37:17 < Rob235> will do 2016-07-30T22:37:21 < Tectu> Rob235, the games he makes are great. just don't tell him anything. otherwise you'll be next in his video description ;) 2016-07-30T22:37:23 < Fleck> just don't read descriptions :P 2016-07-30T22:37:46 < Rob235> haha 2016-07-30T22:37:47 < Tectu> well that's what people do when they watch videos 2016-07-30T22:38:28 < PaulFertser> Tectu: probably not too hard since you already have an IDE. 2016-07-30T22:39:05 < Tectu> PaulFertser, I couldn't find any kind of docs or other pointers on where to even start to look into how to do that. any ideas? 2016-07-30T22:39:33 < PaulFertser> Tectu: sure, hold on. 2016-07-30T22:40:24 < PaulFertser> Tectu: have you already read "The GDB/MI Interface" section in the official GDB manual? 2016-07-30T22:40:42 -!- mode/##stm32 [-bbbb claude!*@* *!tectu@2a01:4f8:100:4323:4f8:4f8:0:6e *!*@91.121.182.141 *!*@*76-169-33-142*] by ChanServ 2016-07-30T22:40:45 -!- mode/##stm32 [-bb *!*@*.76.169.33.142 *!~R2COM@*.comcast.net] by ChanServ 2016-07-30T22:40:56 < Tectu> wut, why was there a tectu on ban? 2016-07-30T22:41:03 < Tectu> ah, was that my old flooding session? 2016-07-30T22:41:08 < Tectu> PaulFertser, I must have missed that :D 2016-07-30T22:42:30 < Tectu> does anybody know what timezone ReadError is in? 2016-07-30T22:42:33 < Tectu> ReadError, ping man 2016-07-30T22:42:38 < Tectu> stop fappin' 2016-07-30T22:42:52 < PaulFertser> Tectu: also, https://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/GDB%20Front%20Ends 2016-07-30T22:43:08 < Tectu> PaulFertser, tahnks! I'll have a look in a few minutes. gotta do that shower thing 2016-07-30T22:43:16 < Steffanx> That was you with the bouncer and the server owner that went missing, Tectu 2016-07-30T22:43:49 < Tectu> oooh, now I understand. Yeah that was horrible... 2016-07-30T22:43:54 < Tectu> still haven't heard from that dude 2016-07-30T23:00:46 < Tectu> PaulFertser, took a look at the gdb/mi docs. that seems to be rather straight forward 2016-07-30T23:01:29 < PaulFertser> Tectu: nice :) 2016-07-30T23:02:20 < Tectu> PaulFertser, I'll get back to you somewhen in the next 20 years when I tackled it. 2016-07-30T23:04:42 < Tectu> PaulFertser, also, why does r2com get a kiss and I don't? 2016-07-30T23:07:25 < PaulFertser> Tectu: you didn't call me a faggot, that's why :) 2016-07-30T23:27:08 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-30T23:41:12 < Tectu> are you falling in love with Qt? 2016-07-30T23:52:23 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Jul 31 2016 2016-07-31T00:01:17 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@1.187.5.164] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T00:08:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-31T00:08:52 < zyp> dongs, hmm, vscored on the usb connector edge looks dumb 2016-07-31T00:17:42 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@1.187.5.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-07-31T00:23:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.196.224.156] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T00:27:58 < Steffanx> Fleck, you thank I-Wish for the sprites. Who's that? 2016-07-31T00:28:13 < Fleck> friend of mine 2016-07-31T00:28:16 < Steffanx> What's next? Mario style game, then doom/3d? 2016-07-31T00:28:19 < Fleck> why? 2016-07-31T00:28:25 < Steffanx> just curious. 2016-07-31T00:28:34 < Tectu> doom is already ported for uGFX 2016-07-31T00:28:39 < Steffanx> because it looks nice. 2016-07-31T00:29:02 < Steffanx> doom/3d style, not doom. 2016-07-31T00:29:52 < Tectu> yes, that. 2016-07-31T00:30:00 < Tectu> andrew ported that like 2 years ago 2016-07-31T00:30:13 < Tectu> works well on an F4 2016-07-31T00:30:16 < Tectu> even well-er on an F7 2016-07-31T00:30:27 < Steffanx> porting is no fun, from scratch. 2016-07-31T00:32:48 < Tectu> lol why 2016-07-31T00:32:50 < Tectu> also then it wouldn't be doom 2016-07-31T00:32:56 < Tectu> it would be some clone-y 2016-07-31T00:36:27 < Tectu> Steffanx, just checked, andrew ported that in 2012 even 2016-07-31T00:37:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-31T00:38:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-31T00:46:59 < Fleck> Steffanx: no, too dumb for that 2016-07-31T00:51:22 < Steffanx> not for some basic adventure game with basic physics, i hope fleck? 2016-07-31T00:52:12 < Fleck> basic physics like jumping? 2016-07-31T00:52:57 < Rob235> I started making a side scroller in directx like 15 years ago, I got it half working but wasn't experienced enough at the time to finish it 2016-07-31T00:53:01 < Steffanx> yes, jumping, falling objects etc 2016-07-31T00:53:34 < Fleck> nope, never done that, so, I guess - too dumb for that too 2016-07-31T00:55:02 < Steffanx> it would be the next step in your game dev progress :) 2016-07-31T00:57:35 < Steffanx> a game like prince of persia would be cool. incl the making of like they did 2016-07-31T00:57:40 < Tectu> Rob235, wut? aren't you like 23 years old? 2016-07-31T00:58:50 < Rob235> 32 2016-07-31T00:59:16 < Tectu> ah 2016-07-31T01:00:37 < Tectu> Fleck, you'll get into it. making a sane 2D engine for those games isn't that hart. Simple stuff like collision detection and some velocity crap is really straight forward and adds a large amount of value & possibilities 2016-07-31T01:03:26 < Rob235> I had gravity and jumping and one basic enemy working (I was starting as a mario1 clone until I came up with my own idea), that wasnt bad, even made my own level editor 2016-07-31T01:03:37 < Rob235> tile based 2016-07-31T01:04:13 < Tectu> Rob235, Fleck got a level editor as well 2016-07-31T01:04:36 < Rob235> nice, Fleck don't get discouraged, you have plenty of smarts to add some physics if you can do that stuff 2016-07-31T01:05:28 < Tectu> agreed 2016-07-31T01:07:43 < Tectu> need to talk to dongs. at what time will dongs be bloggin? 2016-07-31T01:11:12 < Laurenceb__> this is the weirdest meme O_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anv4-AODw1s 2016-07-31T01:13:32 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-07-31T01:13:50 < Laurenceb__> why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YwgOTa76HE 2016-07-31T01:14:43 < Rob235> how is that a meme? 2016-07-31T01:15:03 < Laurenceb__> people randomly saying "nimble navigator" 2016-07-31T01:15:14 < Rob235> o... 2016-07-31T01:15:58 < Laurenceb__> also this photo of crt 2016-07-31T01:16:00 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/QKty00.jpg 2016-07-31T01:16:06 < Laurenceb__> check bottom left 2016-07-31T01:21:08 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-31T01:24:21 < Laurenceb__> thats obviously crt, couldn't be anyone else 2016-07-31T01:45:27 < Rob235> https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/770349336439909/ 2016-07-31T01:45:44 < Rob235> my aunt just posted that on my facebook page 2016-07-31T01:52:58 < jadew> http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTkxNzI0Mjg4Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMTY2OTE1OTE@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,692,1000_AL_.jpg 2016-07-31T01:53:31 < jadew> lol Rob235 2016-07-31T01:58:19 < Rob235> On that note, I'm going to get back to work on the drone. I have to at least fix this stupid ws2812 bug 2016-07-31T02:04:16 < Tectu> better go 11 2016-07-31T02:05:09 < Tectu> what compiler is that? 2016-07-31T02:05:39 < Rob235> what would your first check be if leds work with any of the rgb values at 0 or 255 but anything else results in the brightness flickering anywhere from once every second or two to a few times a second randomly... I'm thinking I have to break out my logic analyzer. 2016-07-31T02:06:08 < Rob235> maybe my timings are a tiny bit off 2016-07-31T02:06:40 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-07-31T02:06:43 < Tectu> R2COM, you want to use g++ if you want to use c++14 2016-07-31T02:06:49 < Tectu> in case of that was not clear 2016-07-31T02:07:21 < Tectu> yess 2016-07-31T02:07:32 < Tectu> gcc is the C compiler binary, g++ is the C++ compiler binary 2016-07-31T02:07:41 < Tectu> besides that GCC is the collection of the entire tools-set 2016-07-31T02:07:52 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T02:07:57 < Tectu> huh, why are you dicking around with -std then 2016-07-31T02:08:10 < Tectu> in you .pro file: CONFIG += c++11 2016-07-31T02:08:31 < Tectu> aaah 2016-07-31T02:09:04 < Tectu> yeah, I'm not not gonna touch that tonight, sorry 2016-07-31T02:09:15 < Tectu> whenever I try building qt stuff I get new grey hairs until I am finished 2016-07-31T02:09:27 < Tectu> last time I tried building QtWebEngine on windows with msvc. still feel raped. 2016-07-31T02:10:49 < Tectu> sorry, I can't remember. I stopped building Qt myself a while ago. 2016-07-31T02:10:53 < Tectu> may I ask why you build qt yourself? 2016-07-31T02:11:25 < Tectu> so? 2016-07-31T02:11:35 < Tectu> download the opengl version installer thingy 2016-07-31T02:11:44 < Tectu> or is that no longer a thing? 2016-07-31T02:12:07 < Tectu> ah, okay 2016-07-31T02:12:15 < Tectu> good luck 2016-07-31T02:12:48 < Tectu> Qt on desktop and µGFX on embedded 2016-07-31T02:13:17 < Tectu> I stopped building the qt libs myself 2016-07-31T02:13:27 < Tectu> I use the precompiled versions 2016-07-31T02:14:16 < Tectu> just don't try to build QtWebEngine or QtCreator. 2016-07-31T02:15:44 < Tectu> stop raging and go to bed 2016-07-31T02:16:04 < kakimir> no 2016-07-31T02:16:27 < Tectu> how is kakimir these days? 2016-07-31T02:16:48 < kakimir> just had twerk some few weeks of works 2016-07-31T02:21:05 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqNp0xFMUMc musics 2016-07-31T02:23:56 < Tectu> well, max. number of (logical) cores you have 2016-07-31T02:24:03 < Tectu> there are some people taht claim that best is that +1 2016-07-31T02:24:17 < Tectu> I personally use number of available logical cores -1 so I can keep browsing youporn 2016-07-31T02:27:38 < Tectu> your -j10 won't be faster than your -j6 2016-07-31T02:27:43 < Tectu> one job will max out one core. 2016-07-31T02:47:17 < karlp> Tectu: cores+1 is because lots of jobs need to do disk io between, you can normally readily browse with cores+10 jobs even, they just get slower. 2016-07-31T02:47:50 < Tectu> karlp, my machine with cores+1 is unusable. 2016-07-31T02:47:59 < Tectu> karlp, got a fancy NVMe PCIe SSD 2016-07-31T02:48:14 < Tectu> can't even move my cursor w/o lagging when doing jobs = n 2016-07-31T02:48:21 < karlp> your computer is teh suck then. 2016-07-31T02:48:32 < karlp> pcie ssd or not. 2016-07-31T02:48:41 < Tectu> well, that's my experience 2016-07-31T02:50:01 < karlp> so, did I miss much the last few days? 2016-07-31T02:52:12 < Tectu> karlp, do you actually do n+10? 2016-07-31T02:52:22 < karlp> no, fuck no, 2016-07-31T02:52:42 < karlp> but I've got a quad core at work, and I often do -j8 because I know there's far too much io in some build trees I use, 2016-07-31T02:53:02 < karlp> and I've occasionally done -j8 on two trees at once, and I could still listen to music on youtube, 2016-07-31T02:53:10 < karlp> just my builds were kinda slow 2016-07-31T02:53:26 < Tectu> I see 2016-07-31T02:59:18 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/HillaryforPresident/ 2016-07-31T03:00:11 < Laurenceb__> truly epin trawl 2016-07-31T03:02:52 < kakimir> I gave up Laurenceb__ 2016-07-31T03:03:24 < kakimir> trying to understand freedomland 2016-07-31T03:07:31 < karlp> zyp: what do you mean about the vscore? you got a vscore on a pcb gold fingers usb plug style? and it doesn't break off cleanly enough for your style? 2016-07-31T03:08:22 < zyp> vscore between panel breakoff frame and pcb 2016-07-31T03:11:55 < Laurenceb__> megalian.com is described as a Korean radical feminist version of /pol/ 2016-07-31T03:12:09 < Laurenceb__> damn pity I can't read the language, sounds like a laugh 2016-07-31T03:12:25 < karlp> Tectu: what's rude in that youtube video description? 2016-07-31T03:12:50 < karlp> zyp: hrm, not sure I follow, but ok, I'll take your word for it :) 2016-07-31T03:13:50 < Tectu> karlp, He edited it. it's all good. 2016-07-31T03:18:02 < zyp> karlp, I'll take some pics tomorrow when I'm less lazy 2016-07-31T03:18:33 < Tectu> has anyone in here experience with eneloops? 2016-07-31T03:20:57 < karlp> I own some, they seem to be solid and hold their charge well on storage, as well as lasting many recharges well, like claimed... 2016-07-31T03:21:22 < karlp> I actually wantt o go buy some more in aaa to replace some 10 year old beat up aaa nimhs I have 2016-07-31T03:21:29 < Tectu> can you charge them with any regular AA cell charger or does/should one need the eneloop chargers? 2016-07-31T03:21:46 < karlp> I've only ever charged them in a generic old charger I have. 2016-07-31T03:21:55 < karlp> I'm not a battery nerd mind you 2016-07-31T03:22:00 < karlp> but I've been very happy with them. 2016-07-31T03:22:04 < Tectu> good 2016-07-31T03:22:05 < Tectu> thanks 2016-07-31T03:22:08 < Tectu> eneloop it is. 2016-07-31T03:22:26 < karlp> batterynerds on the internets seem to approve of them, it was good enough for me, and they seem to have been right 2016-07-31T03:22:51 < Laurenceb__> crt I found your photo 2016-07-31T03:24:36 < Tectu> thanks for the info/review karlp 2016-07-31T03:31:13 < karlp> because hashhash32something, Last night I went to bed after hours of drinking dark rum and watching “Kinky Britain” with the friend I tried to cast the fortune spell on — 2016-07-31T03:31:30 < karlp> (too humourous in general not to share, http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/emoji-hangover-spells 2016-07-31T03:33:48 < Laurenceb__> >reading vice 2016-07-31T03:34:16 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/VICE 2016-07-31T03:35:05 < Laurenceb__> often supplemented by HARD HITTING videos featuring men fucking blow-up dolls, 2016-07-31T03:35:07 < Laurenceb__> accurate 2016-07-31T03:38:11 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T03:38:25 < BrainDamage> hard hitting? https://i.imgur.com/OjUipPw.gif 2016-07-31T03:38:49 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t0asppbecjl5z.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-31T03:39:32 < Tectu> I'm no expert but I have a feeling that something broke there 2016-07-31T03:47:44 < karlp> Laurenceb__: immediately judging something by the url or publisher is depriving you of much enjoyment 2016-07-31T03:49:15 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T04:01:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.196.224.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-31T04:01:46 < Laurenceb__> ED is funny until you read the ED page on ED 2016-07-31T04:02:20 < Laurenceb__> its like "why so serious" 2016-07-31T04:02:26 < Laurenceb__> they can't take the bantz 2016-07-31T04:04:14 < Laurenceb__> raging at Qt ? 2016-07-31T04:04:41 < Tectu> R2COM, I know. I know that feeling very well 2016-07-31T04:04:56 < Tectu> R2COM, I don't remember all the magic I had to apply back then to get it working. 2016-07-31T04:05:03 < Tectu> R2COM, sorry, I'm not helpful. 2016-07-31T04:06:10 < Tectu> well there is #qt 2016-07-31T04:06:15 < Tectu> but don't get support there 2016-07-31T04:06:20 < Tectu> R2COM, ask on http://forum.qt.io 2016-07-31T04:06:28 < PaulFertser> R2COM: just remove -Werror from the options altogether. 2016-07-31T04:06:35 < Tectu> but during the weekends you'll be out of luck 2016-07-31T04:06:47 < PaulFertser> R2COM: -std=c++11 is g++ option, not configure option. 2016-07-31T04:07:07 < PaulFertser> Usually configure has --disable-werror option. 2016-07-31T04:08:34 < Tectu> R2COM, sorry, I have to get some sleep now. I will ask some of my Qt friends tomorrow 2016-07-31T04:08:48 < Tectu> R2COM, at least one of them will definitely be able to help. He's Qt master pro guru build king 2016-07-31T04:09:15 < Tectu> cu folks o/ 2016-07-31T04:09:19 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-31T04:11:21 < PaulFertser> R2COM: if configure fails, you should paste config.log 2016-07-31T04:15:25 < PaulFertser> R2COM: if it fails with a warning turned into error, you need to tell configure to disable werror. 2016-07-31T04:16:25 < PaulFertser> Two dashes for configure 2016-07-31T04:17:05 < PaulFertser> Hm, probably it's not autoconf generated configure. 2016-07-31T04:18:06 < PaulFertser> Let me check 2016-07-31T04:24:37 < PaulFertser> R2COM: I think you need to remove CONFIG += warning_clean from .qmake.conf 2016-07-31T04:25:43 < zyp> R2COM, looks like it just replaces the slashes between directory names 2016-07-31T04:26:46 < zyp> oh 2016-07-31T04:26:49 < zyp> you left out a space 2016-07-31T04:27:17 < zyp> in the $() block 2016-07-31T04:27:21 < zyp> between the function and the argument 2016-07-31T04:27:45 < zyp> and should it be systemrootP? what's the P there for? 2016-07-31T04:28:24 < PaulFertser> R2COM: it's common for software builds to break with new compilers when Werror is used because new warnings appear with new compiler versions. Disabling Werror is usually safe. 2016-07-31T04:29:07 < PaulFertser> I see in qtbase/.qmake.conf which apparently sets Werror by using warning_clean 2016-07-31T04:29:24 < zyp> R2COM, ah, you're fucking up because the newlines got stripped 2016-07-31T04:29:55 < zyp> you need to have whitespace between windows2unix and "$SYSTEMROOT" 2016-07-31T04:30:00 < zyp> so put a space there 2016-07-31T04:31:57 < zyp> no 2016-07-31T04:32:10 < zyp> no 2016-07-31T04:32:30 < zyp> unix uses : as a path separator 2016-07-31T04:33:01 < PaulFertser> R2COM: found the issues: you're using -developer-build 2016-07-31T04:33:02 < zyp> why are you dicking around with this shit anyway? 2016-07-31T04:33:15 < PaulFertser> R2COM: just do not use -developer-build for configure 2016-07-31T04:34:06 < zyp> oh, that's dumb 2016-07-31T04:34:21 < zyp> that it doesn't come in binary 2016-07-31T04:34:44 < zyp> oh 2016-07-31T04:34:50 < zyp> weird 2016-07-31T04:35:25 < zyp> shit like that is why I prefer not using windows 2016-07-31T04:36:08 < zyp> all that path bullshit you're dealing with, I mean 2016-07-31T04:38:19 < PaulFertser> R2COM: you say configure doesn't fail but it fails later due to Werror. That's because you're starting configure with -developer-build option. You do not need that option. 2016-07-31T04:39:25 < zyp> R2COM, by the way, did you buy that electric shaver you were talking about? 2016-07-31T04:39:50 < PaulFertser> R2COM: the build fails because you use -developer-build configure flag 2016-07-31T04:40:44 < zyp> I saw a store here mentioning «60 days free return even if it's used», so I'm thinking I should try it out 2016-07-31T04:43:10 < PaulFertser> R2COM: yes 2016-07-31T04:43:45 < PaulFertser> The wiki page you're reading was damaged by some wiki script. 2016-07-31T04:44:09 < PaulFertser> E.g. -std+''c11 should be -std++11 etc 2016-07-31T04:46:35 < Laurenceb__> this looks legit https://solargas.alle.bg/ 2016-07-31T04:47:00 < PaulFertser> R2COM: you asked about g++ option, I told you g++ option. But you're actually researching Qt's configure options. And they're different. 2016-07-31T04:48:48 < PaulFertser> That wiki page is seriously damaged. E.g. every time \\ should be present it's missing altogether. 2016-07-31T04:50:52 < PaulFertser> Looks sane 2016-07-31T04:52:04 < PaulFertser> I'd ignore it. 2016-07-31T04:52:35 < PaulFertser> Give build a try 2016-07-31T04:53:27 < PaulFertser> Non-developer builds shouldn't enable Werror to avoid bothering users like you with compiler warnings for the Qt itself. It's up to the Qt developers to fix them. 2016-07-31T04:58:13 < PaulFertser> If you installed ICU, unicode/ucal.h should get created. 2016-07-31T04:58:46 < zyp> R2COM, which model shaver were you talking about exactly? they've got a couple different ones 2016-07-31T04:59:30 < zyp> both 2016-07-31T04:59:46 < zyp> crt, yeah, he'd say fuck mingw, use msvc 2016-07-31T05:00:00 < zyp> or fuck qt, use whatever microsofts gui lib is named 2016-07-31T05:00:22 < PaulFertser> R2COM: were you self-building ICU or you installed it with pacman? 2016-07-31T05:01:32 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-07-31T05:01:49 < PaulFertser> R2COM: so make install should have created unicode subdirectory somewhere. 2016-07-31T05:02:17 < PaulFertser> In /c/Qt/qt5_deps/icu/dist/include 2016-07-31T05:03:16 < PaulFertser> R2COM: were you using set INCLUDE=C:5_deps\icu\dist\include;C:5_deps\openssl-1.0.1e\dist\include and other commands from that section? 2016-07-31T05:03:25 < PaulFertser> They're all missing \\ after C: 2016-07-31T05:03:42 < PaulFertser> And Qt\qt 2016-07-31T05:04:27 < PaulFertser> R2COM: so should be set INCLUDE=C:\Qt\qt5_deps\icu\dist\include;C:\Qt\qt5_deps\openssl-1.0.1e\dist\include etc 2016-07-31T05:04:53 < zyp> R2COM, huh, doesn't look like they sell the series 9 here 2016-07-31T05:04:57 < PaulFertser> Yes, if you're using icu-57 then icu-57 2016-07-31T05:05:32 < PaulFertser> The wiki mixes cmd.exe commands with shell commands in a random way. 2016-07-31T05:05:56 < zyp> I was wondering if I should buy the 740s or the 799cc, only difference seems to be that dockng thing 2016-07-31T05:06:00 < zyp> is that useful? 2016-07-31T05:06:16 < PaulFertser> After entering those SET commands start configure from the same cmd.exe window. 2016-07-31T05:06:53 < zyp> R2COM, so it is useful? 2016-07-31T05:07:30 < zyp> how often? 2016-07-31T05:07:48 < PaulFertser> R2COM: then you need to enter them in a different way, like "export INCLUDE=/c/Qt/qt5_deps..." 2016-07-31T05:08:26 < zyp> okay, that sounds neat 2016-07-31T05:08:36 < PaulFertser> That wiki page is a huge mess indeed. 2016-07-31T05:09:49 < zyp> so the docking thing takes care of anything that collects inside as well, or do you still have to empty out that manually? 2016-07-31T05:10:26 < zyp> well, they don't seem to even sell that in norway, braun.no doesn't even list it 2016-07-31T05:10:54 < zyp> yeah, okay, then it's clearly worth it 2016-07-31T05:12:24 < zyp> how long does the blades last? 2016-07-31T05:13:00 < zyp> okay, that sounds very reasonable 2016-07-31T05:14:48 < zyp> guess I'll pick one up and try it out then 2016-07-31T05:15:06 < zyp> kinda tired of trying to avoid cutting myself on the straight razor 2016-07-31T05:15:10 < zyp> :p 2016-07-31T05:15:24 < PaulFertser> R2COM: in msys2 start pathes with / so it should be /c/Qt 2016-07-31T05:16:09 < zyp> it's just that the two other electric shavers I've bought were both shit 2016-07-31T05:16:18 < zyp> so I got kinda turned off that 2016-07-31T05:16:22 < dongs> easy solution: dont shave 2016-07-31T05:16:28 < dongs> zyp: fuck, i forgot to cutout for USB socket, eh 2016-07-31T05:16:44 < PaulFertser> R2COM: in msys2 shell should be : 2016-07-31T05:18:16 < zyp> dongs, not shaving starts to get really annoying when it grows long enough to get into your mouth 2016-07-31T05:18:24 < PaulFertser> R2COM: if it has " at the end, then it's ok. If not, then either add at the end or remove from the beginning. 2016-07-31T05:18:38 < dongs> zyp, true but then you just use one of these things to get it back down to manageable length: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000143C0K 2016-07-31T05:20:26 < PaulFertser> Apparently that wiki page was ok back in 2013 but their wiki archive doesn't have that version. 2016-07-31T05:20:41 < PaulFertser> R2COM: that command can only be used in cmd.exe 2016-07-31T05:21:01 < PaulFertser> Basically it's just to create an empty qtbaseitignore file. 2016-07-31T05:22:49 < PaulFertser> Yes 2016-07-31T05:23:32 < PaulFertser> You do not need that baseitignore shit if you're building from a zip file apparently. 2016-07-31T05:24:29 < PaulFertser> That was some stupid nasty script that run over that page. 2016-07-31T05:26:36 < PaulFertser> R2COM: hm, in the INCLUDE line you need to use ; instead of : I'd guess, not sure, something Qt specific. 2016-07-31T05:28:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.129.24.155] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-31T05:29:01 < PaulFertser> R2COM: echo $INCLUDE 2016-07-31T05:29:23 < PaulFertser> Did you rerun configure from the same shell after changing INCLUDE? 2016-07-31T05:29:36 < PaulFertser> Yes 2016-07-31T05:30:30 < PaulFertser> Not sure 2016-07-31T05:33:03 < PaulFertser> Probably even normal windows pathes are needed there like C:\ (and \ as path separator)... 2016-07-31T05:37:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-31T05:39:00 < PaulFertser> Here's the rationale behind Qt not using opengl on windows by default: http://blog.qt.io/blog/2012/10/24/graphics-on-windows-from-a-different-angle/ so blame microsoft 2016-07-31T05:40:51 < PaulFertser> They claim not all users do that. 2016-07-31T05:40:56 < dongs> lol opengl 2016-07-31T05:40:59 < dongs> dead on arrival 2016-07-31T05:41:14 < dongs> opengl was dead since like 1990 2016-07-31T05:41:24 < dongs> nobody uses it except carmack 2016-07-31T05:41:30 < dongs> all the pros are on directx 2016-07-31T05:41:32 < PaulFertser> Listen to what windows expert says 2016-07-31T05:41:38 < dongs> including all windows CAD vendors 2016-07-31T05:41:47 < dongs> lol vulkan 2016-07-31T05:41:49 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-07-31T05:42:06 < dongs> R2COM: did you see the article wehre they ran latest n v and amd cards on ~slow processors~? 2016-07-31T05:42:14 < dongs> vulkan was 10-20fps SLOWER because it uses too much CPU 2016-07-31T05:42:19 < dongs> to do same thing directx does 2016-07-31T05:42:20 < dongs> LOL 2016-07-31T05:42:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T05:42:29 < dongs> yes ... 2016-07-31T05:43:05 < dongs> http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-in-6-year-old-amd-and-intel-computers/ 2016-07-31T05:43:22 < dongs> The Doom results are particularly telling and honestly I was expecting to see more results like this. Using either OpenGL or Vulkan we see that the RX 480 plays considerably worse than the GTX 1060 on the older systems. 2016-07-31T05:43:29 < dongs> ~considerably worse~ 2016-07-31T05:43:34 < PaulFertser> R2COM: found nicer instructions: https://github.com/Alexpux/Qt-builds 2016-07-31T05:43:51 < PaulFertser> R2COM: Alexpux is MSYS2 maintainer, so he knows how to build Qt. 2016-07-31T05:44:06 < PaulFertser> R2COM: and it has the opengl desktop option you want. 2016-07-31T05:45:05 < PaulFertser> R2COM: so semicolon was wrong apparently, use colon 2016-07-31T05:45:11 < dongs> o man 2016-07-31T05:45:20 < PaulFertser> R2COM: but better, use Qt-builds script as per their README 2016-07-31T05:45:22 < dongs> R2COM: you're in for a ride, i hope you got all day 2016-07-31T05:45:39 < dongs> or most likely, all week 2016-07-31T05:46:06 < PaulFertser> dongs: what specifically do you recommend for creating a modern GUI on windows? 2016-07-31T05:46:29 < dongs> PaulFertser: .net? 2016-07-31T05:46:38 < PaulFertser> dongs: that's not specific enough. 2016-07-31T05:46:46 < dongs> PaulFertser: sure it is. 2016-07-31T05:47:10 < PaulFertser> dongs: there was plenty of different gui technologies, different winforms versions, xaml etc. 2016-07-31T05:47:50 < dongs> PaulFertser: windows forms hasnt changed since .net 1.0 2016-07-31T05:48:03 < PaulFertser> dongs: so you recommend winforms? 2016-07-31T05:48:06 < dongs> in its basic functionality 2016-07-31T05:48:08 < dongs> yes 2016-07-31T05:48:16 < dongs> xaml is aids, winforms works. 2016-07-31T05:48:48 < PaulFertser> Why microsoft's selling aids then? 2016-07-31T05:48:58 < dongs> nobody is forcing you to use it 2016-07-31T05:49:12 < dongs> BSD 2016-07-31T05:52:01 < PaulFertser> R2COM: btw, have you tried qt5 as installed by pacman in MSYS2? According to https://github.com/Alexpux/MINGW-packages/blob/master/mingw-w64-qt5/PKGBUILD they're building with opengl, not angle. 2016-07-31T05:52:15 < PaulFertser> R2COM: correct 2016-07-31T05:52:49 < PaulFertser> R2COM: probably you just needed to install qt5 with pacman, no compiling, no any hassle 2016-07-31T05:53:11 < PaulFertser> pacman -S mingw-w64-qt5 2016-07-31T05:53:39 < PaulFertser> mingw-w64-x86_64-qt5 2016-07-31T05:54:08 < PaulFertser> Yes 2016-07-31T05:54:21 < PaulFertser> According to that PKGBUILD file they're using opengl desktop, not "angle". 2016-07-31T05:55:41 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T05:56:09 < PaulFertser> If you add mingw-w64-qtcreator to it, yes. 2016-07-31T05:56:21 < PaulFertser> w64-x86_64 2016-07-31T05:57:04 < dongs> R2BRO, why are you even compiling QT from source 2016-07-31T05:57:47 < PaulFertser> dongs: because microsoft decided to not ship modern opengl out of the box. 2016-07-31T05:58:09 < PaulFertser> ANGLE provides OpenGL ES API. 2016-07-31T05:58:29 < PaulFertser> And R2COM wants to run some OpenGL code, not OpenGL ES. 2016-07-31T05:58:54 < PaulFertser> dongs: now convince him he wants D3D instead 2016-07-31T05:59:29 < PaulFertser> R2COM: just try binary build from MSYS2 in a separate shell 2016-07-31T05:59:37 < PaulFertser> With that pacman command 2016-07-31T06:00:18 < PaulFertser> R2COM: seems like INCLUDE need to use /c/Qt5/qt...:/c/ syntax 2016-07-31T06:00:51 < PaulFertser> R2COM: just start msys2 shell and enter pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-qt5 mingw-w64-x86_64-qtcreator 2016-07-31T06:01:15 < PaulFertser> Yes, looks ok. 2016-07-31T06:02:39 < PaulFertser> R2COM: I have another way to set INCLUDE 2016-07-31T06:03:19 < PaulFertser> R2COM: do not use that export at all but add this to configure options: -I /c/Qt/qt5_deps/icu-57/dist/include -I /c/Qt/qt5_deps/openssl-1.0.2h/dist/include 2016-07-31T06:03:32 < PaulFertser> do "unset INCLUDE" before trying 2016-07-31T06:08:58 < PaulFertser> ok 2016-07-31T06:10:39 < PaulFertser> So it's likely ok 2016-07-31T06:12:53 < PaulFertser> It's not finding the libraries, yes. 2016-07-31T06:13:42 < PaulFertser> You also need to add -L /path/to/lib options instead of export LIBRARY 2016-07-31T06:13:46 < PaulFertser> To configure 2016-07-31T06:14:24 < PaulFertser> Yes 2016-07-31T06:14:36 < PaulFertser> Same deal as with INCLUDE, just add -L options to configure. 2016-07-31T06:14:58 < PaulFertser> I think they do not matter in a clean shell. 2016-07-31T06:16:12 < PaulFertser> kk, gotta nap some more now 2016-07-31T06:28:04 < dongs> damn 2016-07-31T06:28:10 < dongs> circuit simulator time 2016-07-31T06:51:29 < dongs> http://goo.gl/3zBl1o what the fuck am i doing wrong here 2016-07-31T06:52:24 < dongs> oh 2016-07-31T06:52:26 < dongs> i think i didnt edit vgs 2016-07-31T06:53:08 < dongs> yea k 2016-07-31T07:19:02 < Sync> yes 2016-07-31T07:19:11 < dongs> R2COM: pro as fuck ya 2016-07-31T07:19:31 < 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[Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-31T13:31:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T13:32:40 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T13:33:49 < Tectu> dongs, ping 2016-07-31T14:05:40 < dongs> dongs 2016-07-31T14:05:47 < dongs> sorry im ragereworking boards 2016-07-31T14:05:48 < dongs> sup 2016-07-31T14:06:54 < Tectu> dongs, is freecancer.com for engineering crap only? 2016-07-31T14:06:59 < dongs> no 2016-07-31T14:07:01 < dongs> its for anythign 2016-07-31T14:07:04 < Tectu> great 2016-07-31T14:07:06 < dongs> ive seen indian porn requests on there 2016-07-31T14:07:10 < Tectu> lol 2016-07-31T14:07:40 < Tectu> 2nd question: do you use snapshots with your workstation? 2016-07-31T14:08:29 < dongs> sure 2016-07-31T14:09:23 < Tectu> when you take a snapshot while the VM is powered off or suspended it's like an instant action, but when it's running it takes like a couple of minutes. What's the difference to an online-snapshot? What are the consequences if I keep using the machine? couldn't find much in the vmware docs 2016-07-31T14:10:15 < dongs> yes 2016-07-31T14:10:18 < dongs> cuz it snaps ram 2016-07-31T14:10:21 < dongs> when its runing 2016-07-31T14:10:27 < dongs> when its off, it just makes a disk checkpoint 2016-07-31T14:11:05 < Tectu> but if it is running and I keep using it during that time, stuff changes, files get modified and so on. doesn't that fuck stuff up when restoring? 2016-07-31T14:11:48 < dongs> nope 2016-07-31T14:11:55 < dongs> files get changed = yes, you'll go back to old files. 2016-07-31T14:12:08 < dongs> its a 'moment in time' snapshot when its running. 2016-07-31T14:12:17 < dongs> you could snap it while copying 1 gb file 2016-07-31T14:12:20 < dongs> and resume it a year later 2016-07-31T14:12:24 < dongs> and it'll continue copying 2016-07-31T14:13:18 < Tectu> oh 2016-07-31T14:13:39 < Tectu> so you don't want to keep your porn running while snapshotting 2016-07-31T14:14:41 < dongs> gues sso 2016-07-31T14:14:46 < dongs> usually the way i do si 2016-07-31T14:14:46 < dongs> is 2016-07-31T14:15:18 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T14:16:21 < dongs> if i make a clean install of stuff/config, then power off and snapshot 2016-07-31T14:16:24 < dongs> thats clean state 2016-07-31T14:16:24 < dongs> or 2016-07-31T14:16:29 < dongs> if i wann run some warez keygen 2016-07-31T14:16:31 < dongs> i just snapshot running 2016-07-31T14:16:32 < dongs> run it 2016-07-31T14:16:34 < dongs> rollback+delet 2016-07-31T14:18:19 < Tectu> I see 2016-07-31T14:18:23 < Tectu> thanks for the clarification Mr. dongs 2016-07-31T14:18:43 < Tectu> do you use the auto-protect stuff? (auto snapshots) 2016-07-31T14:21:19 < dongs> nope 2016-07-31T14:21:27 < dongs> dont evn know what thats for 2016-07-31T14:21:30 < dongs> sounds like waste of disk 2016-07-31T14:21:42 < Tectu> it just takes snapshots automatically every N time units 2016-07-31T14:23:37 < Tectu> dongs, do you have windows guests? How does license crap work with cloning? 2016-07-31T14:24:53 < dongs> all my shit is unactivated 2016-07-31T14:25:01 < dongs> i could always roll back to install snapshot 2016-07-31T14:25:03 < dongs> if i cared 2016-07-31T14:25:19 < dongs> shit like xp vms i just install volume version 2016-07-31T14:25:22 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T14:26:25 < PeterM> FCKGW? 2016-07-31T14:26:46 < dongs> CRGCC 2016-07-31T14:26:51 < dongs> but close 2016-07-31T14:28:36 < dongs> crgcc is special terrorist key 2016-07-31T14:32:21 < kakimir> dongs: if I butt kippah to my head there is no unsee for it 2016-07-31T14:32:28 < Tectu> wasn't that ISIS4 ? 2016-07-31T14:33:45 < dongs> foil is working pretty good for not burning parts during IR rework 2016-07-31T14:33:51 < dongs> wrap half the board in it 2016-07-31T14:34:06 < dongs> lrnd from indian cellphone reballing vids 2016-07-31T14:34:19 < Tectu> what kind of foil? 2016-07-31T14:34:23 < Tectu> aluminium? 2016-07-31T14:34:25 < dongs> just cooking alu foil 2016-07-31T14:34:26 < dongs> ya 2016-07-31T14:34:34 < Tectu> cockfoil 2016-07-31T14:34:35 < PeterM> yeah, good shit, and reuseable too 2016-07-31T14:34:38 < dongs> right 2016-07-31T14:34:51 < dongs> i made a little pocket thing that im sliding on like 20th board already 2016-07-31T14:35:17 < Tectu> hmm, the IR thingy I had to work with had some iris like thing for that 2016-07-31T14:35:24 < Tectu> directly under the IR source 2016-07-31T14:35:34 < Steffanx> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qregularexpression.html#escape 2016-07-31T14:35:41 < Tectu> gj Steffanx 2016-07-31T14:35:52 < dongs> wot 2016-07-31T14:36:31 < Steffanx> wrong window. 2016-07-31T14:36:45 < PeterM> it works good for hot air too - when im fucking aroudn with shit, i use a paintstripper + alu foil to remove broken parts, much quicker than a hot air tool 2016-07-31T14:37:36 < Tectu> paint stripper? wut? 2016-07-31T14:37:44 < Tectu> I don't see the process with that. 2016-07-31T14:37:58 < dongs> maybe he explodes them off the board 2016-07-31T14:38:16 < Tectu> must be some australian tradition 2016-07-31T14:38:26 < PeterM> a paint strtipepr, you know, the 2kw heat gun thingos? 2016-07-31T14:38:32 < PeterM> *paint stripper 2016-07-31T14:38:36 < Tectu> oooh 2016-07-31T14:38:38 < PeterM> nbon temp controlled etc 2016-07-31T14:38:59 < Tectu> was thinking about this PeterM: https://db1736767dbd5e7094bb-d61bbc5d0b342a54145a236e2d5d1ebf.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product-800x800/645ada11-5336-46fb-8796-e0488f73e69f.jpg 2016-07-31T14:39:03 < Tectu> chemical stuff 2016-07-31T14:39:39 < BrainDamage> those are great to melt off epoxy based potting compounds 2016-07-31T14:39:44 < PeterM> before i click link, i'm going to advise tectu , paint stripper != stripper in body paint 2016-07-31T14:39:53 < Tectu> PeterM, nah don't worry, its SFW 2016-07-31T14:40:34 < dongs> ya prett sure outside aus paint stripper = liquid poison 2016-07-31T14:40:36 < PeterM> oh, that stuff is pretty decent, but im pretty partial to laquer thinner 2016-07-31T14:41:38 < PeterM> ive melted a few of those curt 2016-07-31T14:42:53 < kakimir> crt: is there any sense buying anything that cheapest one that lasts half an year or year? 2016-07-31T14:42:56 < kakimir> then another 2016-07-31T14:43:26 < kakimir> my hot air gun gave out little smoke and stoped heating 2016-07-31T14:43:34 < kakimir> probably wire melted 2016-07-31T14:43:38 < kakimir> works> 2016-07-31T14:44:05 < Tectu> hot air gun, Atten 858D+ 2016-07-31T14:45:08 < Steffanx> or aoyue 852? 2016-07-31T14:51:00 < Tectu> dongs, have you ever used freecancer to hire somebody? I am looking for somebody that can do icons for some shitty desktop application 2016-07-31T14:51:09 < dongs> yeah 2016-07-31T14:51:12 < dongs> it worked 2016-07-31T14:51:16 < dongs> job got done 2016-07-31T14:51:19 < dongs> in like 2006 2016-07-31T14:51:26 < dongs> when it was called rentachoad 2016-07-31T14:51:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.119] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T14:51:38 < dongs> then iut bnecame rent-a-paki 2016-07-31T14:51:40 < dongs> then freecancer 2016-07-31T14:51:55 < Tectu> okay, so in general you wouldn't say that it's a bad idea? 2016-07-31T14:52:35 < dongs> if you dont acecpt the lowest bidder, and chat to them and they actualy know what theytre doing yea 2016-07-31T14:52:51 < dongs> or that yea 2016-07-31T14:53:26 < Tectu> I tried fiverr twice. it was horrible. I told them that i need 22x22 pixels shit and that I need somebody who knows what sliders, checkboxes and so on are. All of them were like " yes yes sir, I know exactly what you want, please give me munney" 2016-07-31T14:53:53 < Tectu> crt, fiverr worked great for some stupid logos, but for icons for some more or less specialized software it turned out to be horrible 2016-07-31T14:54:00 < Tectu> well, at least the people I came in touch with 2016-07-31T14:54:47 < dongs> pakis gonna be pakis 2016-07-31T14:54:54 < Tectu> the fuck is a pakis 2016-07-31T14:56:31 < Tectu> ah 2016-07-31T14:56:35 < Tectu> fun fact: one actually was pakistani 2016-07-31T14:56:57 < Tectu> dongs, but are freelancer people in general more professional than fiverr? 2016-07-31T14:57:14 < dongs> only one??????????????? 2016-07-31T14:57:51 < Tectu> the current uGFX logo actually comes from a fiverr person. I am quite happy with that: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/cf70f7726de5.jpg 2016-07-31T14:58:28 < BrainDamage> i espected some gory pic 2016-07-31T14:59:31 < Tectu> no, ugfx is serious biz bro 2016-07-31T15:01:00 < dongs> trollcorp 2016-07-31T15:02:45 < Tectu> gotta feed my wife'n kids 2016-07-31T15:05:50 < Tectu> crt, where are you from, if I may ask? 2016-07-31T15:05:57 < BrainDamage> the rest of the world doesn't call people chained in basement "wives" 2016-07-31T15:06:07 < Tectu> hah :p 2016-07-31T15:06:48 < Tectu> oh, you too 2016-07-31T15:06:59 < Tectu> PeterM, you're from australia too, right? 2016-07-31T15:07:17 < Tectu> how come there are no swiss folks in here 2016-07-31T15:07:28 < Tectu> I thought by now everybody in switzerland would have interwebz 2016-07-31T15:07:39 < Tectu> the fuck is gary the goat 2016-07-31T15:08:12 < Tectu> LOL 2016-07-31T15:08:21 < Tectu> link? 2016-07-31T15:08:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T15:09:12 < Tectu> crt, got some interwebz friend coming over from australia this september. what do you guys like? anything stereotypic I can easily apply? 2016-07-31T15:11:08 < Tectu> lulz 2016-07-31T15:11:51 < Tectu> not sure if one travels to central europe for that 2016-07-31T15:12:31 < Tectu> apparently the gary-the-goat guy has a chinese wife too. Is that a thing in .com.au? Cuz the guy that comes to my place does too 2016-07-31T15:13:03 < Tectu> I'm neither going to confirm nor deny that 2016-07-31T15:13:14 < Tectu> I don't want to be a rude racist 2016-07-31T15:13:21 < Tectu> Mr. dongs would surely reply though 2016-07-31T15:13:42 < Tectu> do you have a chinese wife/gf/woman-thing too, mr. crt ? 2016-07-31T15:14:10 < Tectu> upgrdman recently did 2016-07-31T15:14:20 < Tectu> involuntary, it seemed 2016-07-31T15:14:33 < Tectu> apparently her boyfriend was quite pissed off 2016-07-31T15:14:36 < Tectu> better read logs 2016-07-31T15:15:36 < Tectu> now I actually entered freecancer.com in my browser's address field. thanks dongs. 2016-07-31T15:16:33 < Thorn> so? are they sold out or what? 2016-07-31T15:16:37 < Tectu> crt, where in australia are you from? When memory serves me correctly PeterM happens to be from Perth. 2016-07-31T15:17:36 < dongs> wtf is this, #netcopstm32day? 2016-07-31T15:18:19 < Tectu> more like #imalazydickassthattriesnottogetworkdonebyaskingpeoplerandomquestions 2016-07-31T15:24:04 < Tectu> how's winter? 2016-07-31T15:25:48 < Tectu> do you actually get snow and stuff? 2016-07-31T15:27:40 < Tectu> lol wut 2016-07-31T15:28:24 < BrainDamage> can't you invent some new sport? i don't know, throw eachother some venomous animal or so 2016-07-31T15:28:24 < Tectu> that's funny, cuz I am re-watching lost currently. and in one of the flash-backs one of the "lost people" is sitting in a bar in australia and some old australian guy tells him that australian is known as "down under"; because it's as close as you can get to hell without burning. 2016-07-31T15:28:38 < dongs> > lost 2016-07-31T15:29:05 < Tectu> crt, so is that a common theme or american TV much? 2016-07-31T15:29:07 < dongs> the worst american tv in history 2016-07-31T15:29:20 < karlp> Tectu: your memory fails you, peter is form the same state as crt 2016-07-31T15:29:34 < Tectu> karlp, ah, I see. 2016-07-31T15:29:52 < Tectu> karlp, oh wait, you are from australia too. At least that's what I remember from looking at your github a few days ago 2016-07-31T15:30:29 < karlp> not sure how github would tell you that, but ok :) 2016-07-31T15:30:44 < karlp> github just has a link to somewhere else, which probably does 2016-07-31T15:31:00 < Tectu> nah, it just tells me that your e-mail is .net.au 2016-07-31T15:31:05 < Tectu> and .*.au sounds like australia to me 2016-07-31T15:31:12 < Tectu> of course you could have that w/o being from australia but... 2016-07-31T15:31:28 < Tectu> and now I am looking at sone *.is blog from you. 2016-07-31T15:31:38 < Tectu> I should stop judging people by their domains 2016-07-31T15:31:41 < karlp> you could look at one of those domains... 2016-07-31T15:31:49 < karlp> it's like in the second and third sentences. 2016-07-31T15:32:15 < Tectu> :) 2016-07-31T15:34:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T15:36:49 < Tectu> karlp, interesting blog 2016-07-31T15:40:37 < kakimir> sh0w projects guise 2016-07-31T15:44:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-31T15:45:11 < BrainDamage> crt: i'm pretty sure the internet has plenty of material on that hypothesis 2016-07-31T16:06:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-31T16:28:24 < kakimir> projects 2016-07-31T16:28:30 < kakimir> crt: projects 2016-07-31T16:33:03 < dongs> im still reworking, fml 2016-07-31T16:33:44 < kakimir> week 2? 2016-07-31T16:48:21 < Steffanx> foxconmylife dongs? 2016-07-31T16:50:47 < Steffanx> Lo mr crt 2016-07-31T17:05:52 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T17:07:26 < dongs> hes back 2016-07-31T17:10:35 < dongs> lunix is a kitchen and everyone is a shitty cooikk 2016-07-31T17:10:36 < dongs> cook, too 2016-07-31T17:13:12 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T17:14:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T17:17:04 < dongs> ... 2016-07-31T17:17:20 < dongs> worksonmycomputer.png 2016-07-31T17:29:29 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T17:30:50 < Tectu> dongs, regarding the live/online snapshots: The reason I asked is because it takes multiple minutes to complete the snapshot. As you said it takes a snap of the entire system (including RAM). However, if I am doing stuff, starting a snapshot, then keep doing stuff and it's two minutes later when the snapshot is about to finish, stuff changed from when the snapshot started. Wouldn't this mean that the snapshot contains 2016-07-31T17:30:50 < Tectu> fragments of the system state from the entire timeline of the snapshot duration? 2016-07-31T17:35:00 < Rob235> mornin 2016-07-31T17:38:20 < Tectu> R2COM, let me check whether my friend is around. however, weekends are usually a bit dry 2016-07-31T17:49:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T17:50:51 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-07-31T17:52:12 < Tectu> R2COM, looking bad, sorry 2016-07-31T17:52:36 < Tectu> all four people that would be qualified to help are currently not available 2016-07-31T17:52:59 < Tectu> and I'm not going to call one of the people (RL stuff) cuz He's most likely doing stuff with his kid 2016-07-31T17:53:39 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T18:00:26 < Steffanx> There is also #Qt R2COM, they tend to know more about Qt. 2016-07-31T18:00:52 < Tectu> Steffanx, not very helpful if it comes to building qt itself 2016-07-31T18:03:45 < Tectu> R2COM, keep an eye out for scummos, he should be able to help and answer all your questions 2016-07-31T18:06:28 < Tectu> link? 2016-07-31T18:07:52 < Tectu> ah, that explains why I haven't seen the post today 2016-07-31T18:08:00 < Tectu> I would recommend posting in/on the official forum 2016-07-31T18:08:31 < Tectu> also, the actual Qt deves are not really present on those forums. My friend told me to use the mailing list for this kind of stuff. you might want to look into that. 2016-07-31T18:09:29 < Steffanx> forum.qt.io probably 2016-07-31T18:10:38 < Tectu> yeah, forum.qt.io is the official forum. And no, it's not a mailing list, it's a regular forum. crappy NodeBB stuff 2016-07-31T18:11:03 < Tectu> this is the dev mailing list: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development 2016-07-31T18:11:14 < Tectu> I'd recommend you to try that one 2016-07-31T18:11:41 < Tectu> ah sorry no wait 2016-07-31T18:11:43 < Tectu> I was talking shit 2016-07-31T18:11:51 < Tectu> this is the one that you are supposed to use: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest 2016-07-31T18:12:07 < Tectu> the other one is meant for the actual devs of the lib, the one I linked now is for people that dev something WITH the lib 2016-07-31T18:13:07 < Tectu> R2COM, I'd recommend you posting on forum.qt.io right now. Sgaist is online there now. He's the master of all this shit 2016-07-31T18:14:29 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-07-31T18:17:21 < Tectu> yes, hundrets of them 2016-07-31T18:17:38 < Tectu> haven't checked in the past two years but back then it was very high-traffic 2016-07-31T18:17:45 < Tectu> but don't be a jerk and post there and on the forum 2016-07-31T18:17:50 < Tectu> at the samet ime. 2016-07-31T18:18:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-31T18:23:16 < Tectu> so did I. I'd recommend you to link to the full compiler output. what you are showing is just the termination of all jobs 2016-07-31T18:23:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T18:24:19 < Tectu> hence pasting it somewhere and posting just a link 2016-07-31T18:24:55 < Tectu> what is this? 1989? 100 lines scrollback max? :D 2016-07-31T18:25:00 < Tectu> you can always pipe the output to a file 2016-07-31T18:25:21 < Tectu> also, just the stuff as soon as shit hits the fan 2016-07-31T18:25:33 < Tectu> no reason to post all the output of the stuff that actually compiles 2016-07-31T18:25:46 < Tectu> lulz 2016-07-31T18:25:54 < Tectu> is there no quiet mode in those makefiles? 2016-07-31T18:26:26 < Tectu> why are there so many empty lines in that paste? :D 2016-07-31T18:27:01 < Tectu> C:/Qt/Qt57_build/qtbase/bin/uic.exe: error while loading shared libraries: Qt5Core.dll: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 2016-07-31T18:27:05 < Tectu> there you go bro 2016-07-31T18:27:28 < Tectu> The system cannot find the path specified. 2016-07-31T18:27:42 < Tectu> C:/Qt/Qt57_build/qtbase/bin/qmake.exe C:/Qt/Qt57_src/qtbase/src/platformsupport/platformsupport.pro -o Makefile ) && C:/msys2/mingw64/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile 2016-07-31T18:27:44 < Tectu> do those paths exist? 2016-07-31T18:28:14 < Tectu> it tells you what doesn't work, but you gotta figure out why yourself, unfortunately 2016-07-31T18:29:03 < Tectu> I am worried about those empty lines. where do they come from? is there some output missing there? or is that just copypasta failure? 2016-07-31T18:29:38 < Tectu> oh 2016-07-31T18:29:41 < Tectu> I might have a clue here 2016-07-31T18:29:45 < Tectu> did you get your shit from git? 2016-07-31T18:29:50 < Tectu> because it builds the core system just fine 2016-07-31T18:29:56 < Tectu> where? 2016-07-31T18:30:01 < Tectu> I think you didn't get the opengl stuff 2016-07-31T18:30:17 < Tectu> does that include all the crap? cuz when you do it with git you have to specify which modules you want 2016-07-31T18:31:17 < Tectu> I have never worked with the opengl part but I feel like you need to get that separately 2016-07-31T18:31:20 < Tectu> https://download.qt.io/official_releases/qt/5.7/5.7.0/submodules/ 2016-07-31T18:31:30 < Tectu> cuz all that shit is not in the core 2016-07-31T18:31:37 < Tectu> and it compiles the core fine according to your paste 2016-07-31T18:31:42 < Tectu> unless the whitespace is hiding stuff 2016-07-31T18:32:14 < Tectu> just grab the shit from git. Those instructions are very detailed and tell you how you can select the submodules you want to get and build 2016-07-31T18:32:36 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8j0YFzmqWc 2016-07-31T18:32:43 < Tectu> the ones on the wiki, sec 2016-07-31T18:33:02 < ReadError> dude jumps from 25,000 feet w/o a parachute into a net 2016-07-31T18:33:29 < Tectu> R2COM, https://wiki.qt.io/Building-Qt-5-from-Git#Getting_the_source_code 2016-07-31T18:33:47 < Tectu> R2COM, there is some --module-subset or something like that if I remember correctly 2016-07-31T18:34:06 < Tectu> R2COM, I have never used the opengl aids shit. but all the other stuff is in separate modules so I guess opengl crap is too 2016-07-31T18:38:36 < jpa-> what makes opengl aids shit? 2016-07-31T18:46:35 < Tectu> jpa-, nothing, I am trying to blend in 2016-07-31T18:46:57 < Tectu> R2COM, I am 90% sure that there used to be opengl binaries in the past. 2016-07-31T18:47:03 < Tectu> in the past as in two to three years ago 2016-07-31T18:48:08 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-31T18:50:36 < Tectu> R2COM, those git instructions are just to give you access to the full qt source tree. you follow the mingw64 instructions that you linked afterwards is my guess 2016-07-31T18:51:04 < Tectu> R2COM, did you see this? https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-28845 2016-07-31T18:51:37 < Tectu> although you are probably not using -angle I guess/hope. But it's linked in that wiki article you mentioned... 2016-07-31T18:53:24 < Tectu> cu later folks o/ 2016-07-31T19:03:04 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-07-31T19:18:38 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-07-31T19:45:56 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T19:52:04 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T19:58:47 < kakimir> my room may be cleaned today 2016-07-31T19:59:02 < Rob235> wtf, I'm having the weirdest bugs with my ws2812 library 2016-07-31T19:59:48 < Rob235> I need to clean my apartment too :( 2016-07-31T20:05:00 < Steffanx> wife/gf getting home? 2016-07-31T20:08:22 < kakimir> jesus no.. I just can't properly move around anymore 2016-07-31T20:08:32 < kakimir> stuffpiles 2016-07-31T20:09:09 < Rob235> i'm not getting anywhere, I need to make some coffee 2016-07-31T20:09:33 < kakimir> you need a lazy moment 2016-07-31T20:09:55 < kakimir> "bored moment" as veritasium latest video said 2016-07-31T20:09:59 < kakimir> and things come up 2016-07-31T20:11:04 < Rob235> thats all I've been having, I've been struggling to focus this past week so I haven't been spending much time trying. I just sit there and hope something pops out at me without actually trying to read through it like I should 2016-07-31T20:12:19 < kakimir> you have lost organized thinking 2016-07-31T20:12:53 < Rob235> yea 2016-07-31T20:12:58 < Rob235> and of course, there is no cofffee 2016-07-31T20:13:03 < kakimir> - start your day with physical activities to stimulate blood flow to brain 2016-07-31T20:13:42 < kakimir> - overworking late hours get you nowhere 2016-07-31T20:15:36 < kakimir> also you need to philosophically understand the work 2016-07-31T20:15:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-31T20:15:59 < Rob235> how so 2016-07-31T20:17:13 < kakimir> when you lose the organized thinking you are propably trying to eat too big slice of cake 2016-07-31T20:17:56 < ReadError> dont listen to a man who makes no sense 2016-07-31T20:18:18 < kakimir> you need you focus on small tasks and go thru them in tight loop until progress happens 2016-07-31T20:18:33 < Steffanx> kakimir is an android? 2016-07-31T20:19:21 < kakimir> Steffanx: how to know? 2016-07-31T20:20:40 < kakimir> ReadError: and usually in that tight loop "this doesn't make sense"-moment is when error reveals itself 2016-07-31T20:21:18 < kakimir> because everything should ultimatelly make sense unless an error is present 2016-07-31T20:21:55 < Rob235> I'm just going to start from scratch 2016-07-31T20:22:02 < Rob235> (not really) 2016-07-31T20:22:41 < Shavik_> So the STM32L011D4 is pretty much impossible to buy? 2016-07-31T20:22:45 < kakimir> is there something in the code you don't understand? 2016-07-31T20:22:50 -!- Shavik_ is now known as Shavik 2016-07-31T20:23:24 < Rob235> its all my code so I should hope I understand it. like I said, just having trouble keeping focus so that I can walk through it and see what's going wrong 2016-07-31T20:24:38 < Steffanx> isnt that one kinda new Shavik ? 2016-07-31T20:24:44 < Shavik> Not sure 2016-07-31T20:24:50 < Rob235> thats it, I'm going to make a sammich and just do it 2016-07-31T20:25:03 < Shavik> Only experience is with the STM32F401RE so I was looking for a small footprint simple stm32 for a new device idea 2016-07-31T20:25:09 < Shavik> Open to suggestions 2016-07-31T20:25:43 < Shavik> I could easily use something like an ATTiny (based off past experience with in the Atmel world) but wanted to stick with my new "love" aka arm 2016-07-31T20:25:54 < Shavik> and only vendor that I've used yet is ST so here I am :) 2016-07-31T20:26:18 < Shavik> I guess I'd be open to the 20 pin TSSOP as well 2016-07-31T20:26:28 < Shavik> Looking at this page http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/microcontrollers/stm32-32-bit-arm-cortex-mcus/stm32l0-series/stm32l0x1.html?querycriteria=productId=LN1843 2016-07-31T20:27:07 < Steffanx> tssop20 is available for sure. not sure which one probably l031 2016-07-31T20:27:32 < Shavik> Whats the differences between the STM32L011[F|E|G] ? 2016-07-31T20:27:43 < Shavik> Sorry. 2016-07-31T20:27:55 < Shavik> STM32L031[E|F|G]6 2016-07-31T20:28:05 < Steffanx> Datasheet "part numbering" chapter ;) 2016-07-31T20:28:06 < zyp> pin numbers 2016-07-31T20:28:14 < Steffanx> but yes, that 2016-07-31T20:28:52 < Shavik> Yea just hadn't dived that far. Looked at the pages for each and the key features and such were identical 2016-07-31T20:28:54 < Shavik> Thanks zyp 2016-07-31T20:29:53 < zyp> is there a reason you need to go that small? 2016-07-31T20:30:40 < Shavik> Just looking to make a small portable device 2016-07-31T20:31:25 < Shavik> And this is a low run so the ease of soldering will be nice. not that I can't do the QFN. It also will be in a device that is subject to a lot of vibration so I thought the TSSOP would hold up better than QFN 2016-07-31T20:31:27 < Steffanx> qfn is pretty small too 2016-07-31T20:31:29 < Shavik> Mounted to farm equipment 2016-07-31T20:31:36 < Steffanx> or low pin count tqfp 2016-07-31T20:31:47 < Shavik> Yea sorry. I was meaning TQFP not QFN 2016-07-31T20:33:46 < zyp> I'm usually using qfp48 for small stuff 2016-07-31T20:34:20 < Shavik> It doesn't really need a lot of pins. It's essentially going to be a glorified restaurant notification p uck 2016-07-31T20:34:25 < Shavik> like your table is ready 2016-07-31T20:34:42 < Shavik> but for longer range and industrialized 2016-07-31T20:34:50 < zyp> me neither, but it's not like having more pins than you need is a problem 2016-07-31T20:34:51 < Shavik> so limited IO and simple uart to talk to wireless module 2016-07-31T20:34:55 < Shavik> true 2016-07-31T20:35:45 < Shavik> Gonna check out a few of these chips in stm32cube just to easily browse the pinouts 2016-07-31T20:36:06 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/NjEyT.JPG <- this thing is using six gpios, eight if you count the swd pins 2016-07-31T20:36:24 < Shavik> pretty tiny 2016-07-31T20:36:45 < zyp> yes 2016-07-31T20:40:17 < kakimir> Rob235: what you are crunching anyways? some oled bling? 2016-07-31T20:40:58 < Rob235> ws2812b led animation library for my drone, nothing complex, like I said just having trouble keeping focus 2016-07-31T20:41:59 < Rob235> the leds just flicker once in a while so something isn't right 2016-07-31T20:46:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T20:47:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-07-31T20:57:07 < Shavik> anyone heard about the LPRS ERA900TRS wireless modules? Just a general yay or nay? 2016-07-31T20:57:23 < Shavik> Seems pretty solid but not as expensive as say digi/xbee 2016-07-31T21:00:27 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-07-31T21:00:53 < Rob235> maybe I'll put that all aside and try something new. I've had this for a while now, maybe I'll try doing something with it: https://www.adafruit.com/products/2478 2016-07-31T21:01:03 -!- syke [~syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-31T21:02:29 < Steffanx> you can probably buy the same display on ebay without the adafruit tax :P 2016-07-31T21:02:53 < Steffanx> or do you already have it 2016-07-31T21:04:21 < Rob235> already have it 2016-07-31T21:04:45 < Rob235> yea adafruit is expensive but I dont mind, I like their site 2016-07-31T21:08:09 < Rob235> and their pretty blue boards :) 2016-07-31T21:10:53 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T21:11:05 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T21:18:28 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-07-31T21:18:36 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-31T21:25:39 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T21:30:42 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T21:36:42 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T21:46:35 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-07-31T21:47:33 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-07-31T21:47:39 -!- syke [syke@irc.syke.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T21:48:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-31T21:50:14 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T22:18:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T22:25:22 < kakimir> does carbon fiber induce currents inside it in case of change in magnetic field 2016-07-31T22:25:24 < kakimir> ? 2016-07-31T22:25:45 < kakimir> I mean composite, not just the fiber 2016-07-31T22:26:45 < kakimir> making use in electromagnetic drive harder 2016-07-31T22:29:22 < ReadError> shut the cuck up 2016-07-31T22:33:17 < Steffanx> try to be nice or ignore.. mr ReadError. 2016-07-31T22:33:41 < ReadError> i just having a lul m8 no hard feels 2016-07-31T22:34:14 < Steffanx> ok ok :P 2016-07-31T22:34:33 < kakimir> his anger luls 2016-07-31T22:34:53 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T22:35:43 < kakimir> inductive currents in carbon fiber are actual 2016-07-31T22:38:50 < kakimir> it can be used for prepreg heating 2016-07-31T22:38:59 < kakimir> curing activation 2016-07-31T22:42:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T22:43:11 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T22:43:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T22:59:45 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-07-31T23:00:41 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T23:03:40 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T23:03:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T23:12:00 < Rob235> so apparently every once in a while the first bit of my ws2812 stream disappears, which is causing the color change/flicker 2016-07-31T23:12:54 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-07-31T23:15:01 < Rob235> at least I'm getting somewhere/narrowing it down 2016-07-31T23:24:21 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T23:24:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T23:25:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-07-31T23:28:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T23:42:02 < Rob235> I'm scared to say it but I think I fixed it 2016-07-31T23:42:50 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T23:42:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T23:48:19 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-07-31T23:48:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-07-31T23:50:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.62.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-07-31T23:52:51 < ReadError> fly time 2016-07-31T23:54:52 < Rob235> heh 2016-07-31T23:55:34 < Rob235> I wish I knew why I need the fix in the first place 2016-07-31T23:56:30 < kakimir> you do flyings ReadError ? 2016-07-31T23:56:54 < ReadError> i fly things --- Log closed Mon Aug 01 00:00:23 2016